00:00.24 | Xuerian | Reproducable, sbu? |
00:00.26 | nymbia | haarm: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Getting_an_Account |
00:00.50 | sbu | Xuerian: hmm - i get this error every few seconds |
00:01.01 | sbu | think it has something to do w/ battleground+ loot |
00:01.03 | Xuerian | But not while out of av? |
00:01.12 | ckknight | back |
00:01.13 | sbu | mhhh, didnt notice |
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00:02.07 | sbu | so its a lot of erros in line 323 |
00:02.20 | sbu | and 1 (!) in 344 (variable 'c') |
00:02.27 | haarm | lol, the guy giving away free keys from worldofwar.net just pinged out while naming the final winner |
00:03.04 | sbu | woot? free keys? |
00:03.28 | Xuerian | sbu: Was the 344 error before the others? |
00:03.34 | haarm | ty nymbia, i'll read in a sec |
00:04.07 | sbu | yup |
00:04.09 | Funkeh` | eternally777: hey |
00:04.29 | eternally777 | Funkeh`: hey |
00:04.34 | Xuerian | sbu: Well I've seen people account for "unknown" class, but that's just weird |
00:04.40 | eternally777 | How's it going? |
00:04.50 | Xuerian | Has this only happened once? |
00:05.07 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r15878 10Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
00:05.07 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
00:05.08 | CIA-17 | - Added an error check for older versions of auctioneer. |
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00:05.25 | Funkeh` | good good :) |
00:05.28 | Funkeh` | you? |
00:06.18 | Mikma | i mean really |
00:06.19 | eternally777 | Same. I just started an emerge -e system && emerge -e world, so it looks like I'm going to be bored for the next few days. |
00:06.23 | Mikma | does someone actually pay for RDX |
00:06.50 | haste | eternally777: why are you using -e ? |
00:07.13 | eternally777 | GCC upgrade |
00:07.13 | nevcairiel | -e starts with an empty tree, for a full rebuild of everything |
00:07.19 | haste | ah |
00:07.21 | eternally777 | Going by the book |
00:07.22 | haste | that's fun |
00:07.28 | eternally777 | So I don't screw anything up again |
00:07.30 | eternally777 | :) |
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00:07.54 | Mikma | RAWR browsing rdx-raid.com is bringing up my rage again |
00:08.08 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15879 10TooltipExchange/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
00:08.08 | CIA-17 | TooltipExchange |
00:08.08 | CIA-17 | - Cleanup in UI generation code |
00:08.08 | CIA-17 | - More meaningful tooltip texts |
00:08.08 | CIA-17 | - Added rarity selection to search options |
00:08.12 | Exekute | yo, help a noob, where can I get EEMon now? |
00:08.34 | Mikma | interwebs! |
00:08.42 | Exekute | I've looked on the interwebs |
00:08.53 | gxam | have you tried the google |
00:08.55 | Mikma | look harder and deeper, and scooter! |
00:08.57 | Exekute | it was hard enough to find it the first time, now Ace changed the website all around |
00:09.09 | nymbia | http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=eeMon/ |
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00:11.38 | ckknight | blah. |
00:11.50 | nymbia | minor issues ck? |
00:11.50 | Xuerian | Mm? |
00:11.58 | Exekute | thanks nymbia |
00:12.03 | ckknight | yea, apparently |
00:12.11 | nymbia | Exekute: sure |
00:13.06 | ckknight | hrm |
00:13.07 | sbu | Xuerian: mhh no idea? :o |
00:13.13 | ckknight | guess I could work on the MapNotes part of Cartographer now |
00:13.58 | kergoth | damnit. use closetgnome with closetgnome_mount and closetgnome_gatherer, and use mountme. set: general, mount -> set:mount, click on herb -> set:herbalism, mountme unmounts -> set:general, walk around a bit, _gatherer puts back the set it had on before switching to herbalism, which is set:mount |
00:14.00 | Xuerian | sbu: The problem is it couldn't find the class for somebody. That cascaded into a error resulting in a nil row, which in turn catches everything with a big error |
00:14.03 | kergoth | so now you're walking around in mount gear |
00:14.05 | kergoth | unmounted |
00:14.10 | Xuerian | WHY it didn't find the class is what bothers me |
00:15.02 | Industrial | gatherer shouldnt touch sets |
00:15.07 | Industrial | it should gather |
00:15.13 | kergoth | hm? |
00:15.23 | kergoth | gatherer switches to your herbalism set, which is what puts on the +herb gear |
00:15.27 | Xuerian | sbu: If you reloadui, does it happen again? |
00:15.34 | Industrial | yeah, it shouldnt |
00:15.52 | Industrial | closetgnome should |
00:15.52 | ckknight | ah, fucking a, the beta realms are down |
00:15.52 | Industrial | :P |
00:15.52 | kergoth | of course it should |
00:15.56 | kergoth | closetgnome should not know anything about gathering |
00:16.12 | Industrial | and gatehrere should not know anything about sets |
00:16.14 | kergoth | its just not smart enough about set application/unapplication to handle it |
00:16.17 | Industrial | glad we agree |
00:16.17 | Industrial | :P |
00:16.20 | kergoth | hm? |
00:16.32 | kergoth | gatherer tells closetgnome to equip the herbalism set, and when to unequip it |
00:16.39 | Industrial | never mind im bored, im being a pain in the ass again |
00:16.40 | kergoth | i dont see what piont you're trying to make |
00:16.50 | Tekkub | bestbuy has an ebay store *boggle* |
00:16.57 | Industrial | kergoth: oh I thought you meant that gatherer itself changed sets |
00:17.07 | kergoth | no, it calls the cg function to equip a set |
00:17.17 | Industrial | k :> |
00:17.24 | kergoth | its just that handling previous set vs current set and stuff is a mess atm |
00:17.40 | kergoth | gatherer stores the previous set itself, then something changes set before it reverts to previous, and things get confused |
00:18.00 | kergoth | hrm |
00:18.10 | Industrial | theres only one option left |
00:18.14 | Industrial | you rewriting gatherer |
00:18.15 | Industrial | \io/ |
00:18.19 | Industrial | er, \o/ |
00:18.21 | kergoth | shh |
00:18.29 | Industrial | ke ke, just kidding |
00:18.34 | haste | PinPoint! |
00:18.39 | kergoth | i might branch CG though |
00:18.43 | sylvanaar | evening |
00:19.06 | kergoth | make it handle sets as a stack, making pushing/popping partial sets more sane |
00:19.06 | eternally777 | I have that StopTheLagness mod installed, but I'm still getting a horrendous increasing memory rate when I mouse over items in my inventory :( |
00:19.29 | kergoth | last time i tested it, stopthelagness increased my k/s when mousing over items in the inventory, more than without it |
00:19.30 | kergoth | but /shrug |
00:20.52 | Industrial | god im so bored im jumping the tent flaps in the battlemasters area without letting go of the run button, while making spins when in the air, not falling down |
00:21.07 | Industrial | hurry. up. queue. |
00:21.21 | haarm | Mikma, so what's up with popsicle? no idea what it's supposed to do, but I'll try and help you fix it if you want :D |
00:23.38 | Gnarfoz | haarm: it brings ChatFrame1 to the front, on login |
00:23.46 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15880 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer - removed debug line in AlphaScale |
00:24.09 | Funkeh` | FuBar_TradeCDFu supports salt shackers of LW? |
00:24.49 | Tekkub | ah what mod shoupd I fix tonight.... ? |
00:25.06 | eternally777 | Is anyone else finding TBC quality itemlinks in the regular WoW client? |
00:25.08 | Tekkub | p == l, fuck qwerty |
00:25.20 | Funkeh` | lol |
00:25.22 | Tekkub | TBC quality? |
00:25.47 | haarm | I havn't actually looked at TBC links yet, I guess they have an extra field for sockets ? |
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00:27.05 | ckknight | aw, srsly? |
00:27.05 | eternally777 | Someone in my guild linked the "Prismatic Band of Marksmanship"? |
00:27.05 | ckknight | man, I'll have to tack that onto AceComm, then |
00:27.05 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15881 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - makes sure buttons/levels have 100% alpha |
00:27.17 | eternally777 | +91 Ranked attack power with a +40 Agility enchant? |
00:27.25 | eternally777 | s/Ranked/ranged |
00:27.33 | eternally777 | s/Ranked/ranged/ |
00:27.39 | eternally777 | -.- purl you're dumb |
00:27.46 | Tekkub | I weeded Gratuity down to 50 lines of code (minus library handler code) |
00:27.48 | Tekkub | ^^ |
00:27.55 | kergoth | perl did exactly waht you asked it to :P |
00:28.00 | eternally777 | Yeah |
00:28.19 | Tekkub | perl, suck my hairy right nut |
00:28.23 | eternally777 | He should've figured out what I meant. |
00:28.30 | eternally777 | So has anyone seen or heard of that ring before? |
00:28.43 | Tekkub | Prismatic? sounds gay |
00:29.17 | eternally777 | Plus I'm not sure how it could have a +40 agility enchant on it |
00:29.25 | Funkeh` | lol purl |
00:29.27 | Funkeh` | <3 |
00:29.31 | haarm | eternally777, every item has a field for an enchant, its a fake link |
00:29.52 | haarm | you can just populate the field when you manually create the item link, and it will display with the enchant |
00:30.18 | haarm | and they must have just incremented the code for the +AP random properties until they found an obscenely high one |
00:30.26 | sylvanaar | so who coded interview moduile while i was away? |
00:30.53 | CIA-17 | 03jjsheets * r15882 10Jigsaw/ (JigsawCore.lua JigsawQueue.lua JigsawRecipe.lua): Jigsaw - Multiple Queues per character. Fixed a few bugs. Tooltip lines can be clicked on to craft recipes. |
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00:31.53 | ckknight | hey vhaarr |
00:31.58 | vhaarr | ah, hey ckk |
00:32.04 | vhaarr | I checked in some locationfu thingy, sec |
00:32.12 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/15829 |
00:32.33 | vhaarr | Not sure if that was the right fix, but the problem description is in the commit note. |
00:32.52 | ckknight | actually the x == 0 and y == 0 should be taken out |
00:33.05 | kergoth | has anyone done a library that just maintains a single instance of the inventory contents in ram that's always kept up to date via events? |
00:33.21 | vhaarr | ckknight: That's what I thought, but I didn't do it since I figured I might be missing some info. |
00:33.26 | ckknight | x == 0 and y == 0 assumes instance |
00:33.39 | vhaarr | yes |
00:33.47 | ckknight | lemme work on it |
00:33.49 | CIA-17 | 03pb_ee1 * r15883 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFuLocale.zhTW.lua: |
00:33.49 | CIA-17 | FuBar_GroupFu: Corrected GroupFuLocale.zhTW.lua file. |
00:33.49 | CIA-17 | - Turned "enUs" into "zhTW". |
00:34.24 | vhaarr | ckknight: oh, and I noticed another thing earlier that you're probably aware of; when deleting panels in FuBar, Jostle doesn't do its thing. |
00:34.38 | vhaarr | unit frames and minimap and stuff all remained in the same position. |
00:35.01 | ckknight | odd |
00:35.04 | ckknight | shouldn't do that. |
00:35.13 | haarm | can you add support for enGB to AceLocale please? :( |
00:35.25 | Xuerian | Is not having colour really that bad? o.0 |
00:35.37 | haarm | it sure is :) |
00:35.52 | vhaarr | ckknight: For some reason when logging in, I had 3 panels (when I logged off before that, I had 1), and so obviously I removed the excess panels, and nothing was jostled back into 1-panel-position. |
00:36.01 | ckknight | hrm |
00:36.08 | ckknight | haarm, why? |
00:36.13 | ckknight | enGB doesn't exist. |
00:36.18 | haarm | ohh yes it does |
00:36.26 | vhaarr | Not in WoW. |
00:36.30 | ckknight | British people are merely a figment of your depraved imagination. |
00:36.30 | haarm | ohhh yes it does! |
00:36.42 | haarm | check LOCALE_enGB == true :) |
00:36.54 | ckknight | assert(GetLocale() == "enUS") |
00:37.00 | Kemayo | Speaking as a British person, I can confirm ckknight's statement. |
00:37.01 | vhaarr | ;) |
00:37.02 | haarm | I am a figment of my own imagination, that reminds me of some tool track |
00:37.18 | nevcairiel | i added SET PreferedLocale "enUS" to my config.wtf to remove one bug i once had with AL |
00:37.21 | nevcairiel | dont ask me why |
00:37.34 | ckknight | what bug? |
00:37.41 | haarm | yea that GetLocale is broken |
00:37.42 | vhaarr | kergoth: Ah, thanks, not really loading up 1.12 enough these days. |
00:37.45 | haarm | local old_GetLocale = GetLocale; function GetLocale() if (LOCALE_enGB == true) then return "enGB";else return old_GetLocale();end;end |
00:37.46 | nevcairiel | some error with enGB doesnt exist |
00:37.47 | haarm | try that one :) |
00:37.48 | kergoth | vhaarr: np |
00:37.57 | nevcairiel | was way back |
00:38.02 | nevcairiel | when i first used Ace2 |
00:38.05 | ckknight | haarm, who did that? |
00:38.09 | haarm | me |
00:38.40 | ckknight | well, that's your fault. |
00:38.47 | ckknight | request denied |
00:39.00 | haarm | my fault I'm British? :P |
00:39.08 | vhaarr | ckknight: Got room for more stuff or do you want a bug tracker? |
00:39.09 | ckknight | lern2america |
00:39.10 | vhaarr | :P |
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00:39.22 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07Artack * r15884 10FuBar_SWStatsFu/: FuBar_SWStatsFu: commit template |
00:39.22 | ckknight | vhaarr, I like bug trackers |
00:39.34 | haarm | nooo, instead I shall insert "u"s into your enUS locales! |
00:39.37 | vhaarr | ckknight: I set up bugzilla for testing the other day, you can have an admin account if you want. |
00:39.57 | ckknight | haarm, feel free to do so on your local copy. |
00:40.22 | haarm | awww, cheer up ckknight, it was a joke :( |
00:40.24 | ckknight | thing is, I don't like dealing with all the semantics of bug trackers, takes too much time away from coding |
00:40.45 | ckknight | haarm, basically, don't expect enGB to be supported, seeing as WoW doesn't support it natively |
00:40.57 | ckknight | you can always use dynamic locales |
00:40.57 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetLocale |
00:41.10 | ckknight | vhaarr does that so he can be all Norweigan |
00:41.15 | vhaarr | ^^ |
00:41.31 | vhaarr | My LocaleAuthority addon is not quite ready yet, though, hm. |
00:41.34 | vhaarr | Maybe I should finish it. |
00:41.59 | vhaarr | haarm: With it you could support enGB. |
00:42.14 | vhaarr | haarm: Alot of my interface is currently in norwegian. |
00:42.25 | Azurewrath | mhm rabbit, you know about the all white Font in BigWigs thingie? :) |
00:42.39 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: Right .. >< Do you have the latest revision? |
00:42.43 | vhaarr | I might have fixed it again. |
00:43.00 | Azurewrath | mhm i have, but latest reloadui was a few hours ago ;) gimme a sec.. |
00:44.01 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07swsonly * r15885 10Interview/: Interview: sws only for users who want to use the sws module |
00:44.14 | Tekkub | covers of old 80's songs by alt/rock bands are funny |
00:44.19 | Azurewrath | vhaarr: nope, not fixed :/ |
00:44.23 | vhaarr | gah |
00:44.50 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: How can I test it? |
00:44.54 | vhaarr | Without raiding. |
00:45.05 | Azurewrath | Plugins/test? ;) |
00:45.11 | vhaarr | rofl |
00:45.11 | Tekkub | bah... what to do |
00:45.28 | vhaarr | Tekkub: Fix the .. err.. boss announce thingy bugs I reported some time ago. |
00:45.38 | vhaarr | Starts with V |
00:46.00 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15887 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: FuBar_LocationFu - fixed instance checking |
00:46.38 | Tekkub | meh, I don't want to work on BW |
00:46.39 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r15888 10Grid/libs/: Grid: Set externals. |
00:46.47 | vhaarr | not BW |
00:46.51 | eternally777 | wooooooooo |
00:46.54 | haarm | hoho, need to test Grid :) |
00:46.57 | Tekkub | what? |
00:47.10 | vhaarr | it's your mod, I don't remember the name |
00:47.15 | vhaarr | it cries like "boss dead" in guildchat |
00:47.30 | haarm | oh, anyone here work on WowAceUpdater ? |
00:47.32 | Tekkub | oh, VFB |
00:48.08 | Tekkub | what was the issue again? just need moved to Babble 22? |
00:49.01 | Industrial | boom clack clack HUH, boom clack clack HUH HAH horde wins \o/ |
00:49.46 | vhaarr | Tekkub: no, 2 things |
00:49.57 | vhaarr | Tekkub: AceLibrary("Babble-Boss-2.0"), don't wrap it in AceLocale |
00:50.00 | vhaarr | err 2.2 |
00:50.08 | vhaarr | Tekkub: And check for reverse translation in the print |
00:50.12 | vhaarr | it only works for enUS atm |
00:53.38 | sbu | Xuerian: hmm then putt some failsave code for that unknown class thing in and all should be fine? :o |
00:53.46 | Xuerian | Probably |
00:54.10 | Xuerian | Sbu: did you reload? |
00:54.25 | sbu | mh wait |
00:55.59 | sbu | works again after reloadning |
00:56.18 | vhaarr | Azurewrath: Test my next commit, it's processing now. |
00:56.29 | Azurewrath | vhaarr: ok |
00:56.32 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15889 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Properly fix coloring. |
00:56.38 | Xuerian | sbu: I'm just curious how often this happens |
00:56.49 | Funkeh` | omg |
00:56.55 | Funkeh` | is grid working on standard wow? |
00:57.22 | maia | Funkeh`: its working on 1.12 *and* TBC |
00:58.05 | Funkeh` | WOOT |
00:58.07 | Funkeh` | <3 |
00:58.09 | Funkeh` | brb :)) |
00:58.10 | Azurewrath | vhaarr: works :) |
00:58.15 | vhaarr | ^^ |
00:58.23 | maia | the only thing you need to do to get Grid working in TBC is to replace AceHook by the TBC version, or remove it from the .toc |
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00:59.42 | ckknight | for TBC users: I recommend just using the Ace2 standalone for TBC |
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00:59.47 | Funkeh` | so |
00:59.52 | vurlix | so |
00:59.53 | Funkeh` | ./bye squishy? :P |
01:00.08 | maia | ckknight: what if the revision number of an embedded AceHook is higher than the one from the Ace2 standalone? |
01:00.16 | ckknight | mmm... that'd cause issues. |
01:00.30 | maia | well, thats the problem. |
01:00.32 | vurlix | who can fix the svn:externals on AutoBar |
01:00.37 | ckknight | hrm |
01:00.40 | ckknight | fair enough |
01:00.43 | ckknight | I don't use externals |
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01:00.55 | eternally777 | vurlix: Did he break it again? |
01:00.59 | maia | unless you always bump the rev number on the branches right after commiting something to the trunk AceHook |
01:01.11 | vurlix | yes eternally |
01:01.14 | eternally777 | vurlix: I'll get it... |
01:01.18 | vhaarr | haha |
01:01.24 | vhaarr | toadkiller broke it *again*? |
01:01.39 | eternally777 | I fixed it twice |
01:01.43 | vhaarr | I know. |
01:01.50 | vurlix | seriously |
01:02.11 | eternally777 | Didn't he rename it? |
01:02.11 | maia | ckknight: I know this might cause some code duplication, but why not merge both 1.12 and 2.0 Ace into one file? aka just split each file into a section for 1.12 and one for 2.0? |
01:02.16 | eternally777 | Or is it still "AutoBar" |
01:02.21 | ckknight | I can't, maia |
01:02.33 | ckknight | lua 5.1 syntax is backwards-incompatible |
01:02.40 | maia | yeah. |
01:02.42 | maia | but. |
01:03.00 | ckknight | no but |
01:03.24 | maia | you could take the e.g. TBC AceHook-2.1, wrap a string.find(GetBuildInfo(), "^2%.") around it, then add the 1.12 code after that |
01:03.37 | vhaarr | doesn't work, you get syntax errors |
01:03.40 | haarm | hey, Grid is looking nice |
01:03.41 | vhaarr | you have to loadstring(...) |
01:03.45 | haarm | just gave it a whirl |
01:04.08 | ckknight | I can't, maia |
01:04.13 | ckknight | <ckknight> lua 5.1 syntax is backwards-incompatible |
01:04.17 | ckknight | come to understand that sentence. |
01:04.39 | maia | ckknight: so lua will try to interpret everything? |
01:04.43 | ckknight | yes. |
01:04.45 | maia | ouch |
01:04.49 | ckknight | it's compiled to bytecode first. |
01:04.53 | maia | hrm. |
01:04.56 | haarm | maia: will those buttons in Grid be replacable with the "secure" buttons in TBC ? |
01:04.58 | vhaarr | ckknight: Just wrap it all in a loadstring :P |
01:05.01 | ckknight | I could technically use loadstrings, but that's icky. |
01:05.04 | ckknight | and I don't want to do that. |
01:05.07 | maia | haarm: they already are secure buttons |
01:05.12 | haarm | oh nice :) |
01:05.24 | haarm | well the mod looks good... except... I can't move it! :) |
01:05.44 | maia | haarm: if you look into the TBC subfolder, you'll see that pasta backported the secure frames to 1.12. aka you're using TBC frames in 1.12 |
01:06.04 | maia | haarm: you can drag it when clicking on the border, not a unit frame |
01:06.24 | haarm | ah right, thanks :) |
01:06.28 | kergoth | vhaarr: if i write a small lib to maintain a single instance of a stack of itemsets, with pushing/popping of full and partial sets, will you use it in CG? i know its more complecated than you wanted to make it, but itll get rid of some of the issues with it, and i'd be doing it, not you ;) |
01:06.32 | haarm | I'll test it in raids for sure |
01:07.08 | Saroz | nice code maia |
01:07.17 | vurlix | where can i get a build of Grid to test out? |
01:07.29 | vhaarr | kergoth: depends how easy it would be for me to transition :P |
01:07.33 | kergoth | hehe |
01:07.34 | maia | files.wowace.com/files/Grid |
01:07.39 | eternally777 | vurlix: What error are you getting with autobar? |
01:07.58 | maia | Saroz: pastamancer wrote most of the OO code. |
01:08.08 | maia | but yes, nice code indeed (thanks, pasta!) |
01:08.16 | ckknight | mmm... pasta |
01:08.18 | pastamancer | it was fun |
01:08.51 | vhaarr | kergoth: When would CG pop? |
01:08.52 | vurlix | eternally777: fails to load PT (periodictable).. but it doesn't have any libs with it at all |
01:09.07 | vhaarr | kergoth: It would just keep pushing. |
01:09.10 | eternally777 | vurlix: downloading directly from the SVN? |
01:09.12 | Funkeh` | erm i think there might be something wrong in the latest dewdrop btw, any kind of option with a draggable scale, the scale frame is massive :P |
01:09.18 | haarm | oh vhaar, that reminds me, it may be fixed already but when switching between a 2 hander, and a 1h + offhand I'm getting "Item does not go in that slot" errors |
01:09.20 | vurlix | eternally777: the zipped version |
01:09.41 | vhaarr | haarm: That's not fixed, no, and is basically the only reason I'm not releasing it. |
01:09.42 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07swsonly * r15890 10Interview/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Interview: SWS Only Version with embedded libraries |
01:09.43 | vurlix | i should probably move to using svn working copies, not a big deal for me |
01:10.18 | haarm | actually I lied, the error I was getting is "That slot is empty" |
01:10.22 | haarm | just tested |
01:10.34 | eternally777 | vurlix: hmm.. wtf |
01:10.34 | vhaarr | well whatever |
01:11.43 | pastamancer | Just uploaded Grid to wowi, pending approval. |
01:11.49 | vhaarr | ckknight: Anyway, since you've got the locationfu thing out, I'll push another one: When a dewdrop level expands, it usually checks if there is enough room before it hits the edge, and if not, it expands in the opposite direction. This doesn't seem to be working for edit boxes. |
01:12.16 | vhaarr | ckknight: Like type="text", they expand outside the constraints of the UI frame. |
01:12.24 | kergoth | vhaarr: well, for cg proper, it could simply allow sets that it pushes to fade out of the stack when none of their slots are currently equipped. obviously thatd need to be a flag to the push function, so that addons like mount/gatherer can push without removing sets from the stack, that way when it pops it'll properly go back to the previous state |
01:12.47 | ckknight | vhaarr, hrm. |
01:12.50 | ckknight | blah. |
01:12.57 | vhaarr | kergoth: see, the words "none of their slots are currently equipped" ruin it. |
01:12.58 | maia | does anyone have a osx/linux terminal script to recursively remove all files/folders that begin with a . or _? makes it easier to prepare a zip from a svn checkout |
01:13.06 | vhaarr | kergoth: since CG doesn't know at all what you're wearing. |
01:13.09 | *** join/#wowace Rophy (n=Miranda@218-174-227-185.dynamic.hinet.net) |
01:13.11 | arkanes | maia: use svn export |
01:13.40 | maia | arkanes: yeah, but I still have to delete the OSX files that save the folder layout too |
01:13.40 | vhaarr | kergoth: or would the library handle that? |
01:13.46 | kergoth | right, the library would handle all of that |
01:13.49 | vhaarr | ah |
01:13.58 | kergoth | itll just maintain a little table associating the currently equipped slots to set ids |
01:14.07 | kergoth | all under the hood of course |
01:14.24 | kergoth | all you'd have to be concerned with is calling its push method with the set you supply, most likely |
01:14.31 | vhaarr | indeed |
01:15.03 | vhaarr | then I'd be willing to use the library, although I'm not sure it is worth the effort |
01:15.07 | vhaarr | on your part |
01:15.16 | CIA-17 | 03eternally777 * r15891 10AutoBar/Core.lua: |
01:15.16 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
01:15.16 | CIA-17 | - wowace.com/files not properly including the zip files, touching this to see if it updates.. |
01:15.16 | CIA-17 | - Added a hyphen to line 1 of Core.lua (so now it's "---" instead of "--") |
01:15.20 | kergoth | i just got bit by it again earlier, even using no partial sets at all |
01:15.35 | eternally777 | s/zip files/externals/ |
01:16.05 | kergoth | <kergoth> damnit. use closetgnome with closetgnome_mount and closetgnome_gatherer, and use mountme. set: general, mount -> set:mount, click on herb -> set:herbalism, mountme unmounts -> set:general, walk around a bit, _gatherer puts back the set it had on before switching to herbalism, which is set:mount |
01:16.07 | eternally777 | Fixed |
01:16.07 | kergoth | <kergoth> so now you're walking around in mount gear |
01:16.07 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
01:16.27 | vhaarr | ^^ |
01:16.59 | eternally777 | Alright guys, I'll be back in a bit. |
01:17.00 | kergoth | besides, i'm bored and feel like coding for once |
01:17.06 | vhaarr | hehe don't let me stop you |
01:17.14 | kergoth | :) |
01:17.15 | vhaarr | kergoth: I'll use the library. |
01:18.38 | Funkeh` | ckknight: in the latest dewdrop i seem to have very large scroll frames, any kind of frame with a scrollable bar |
01:18.47 | sylvanaar | i think that standalone libraries needs a small mod to go with it which can enable/disable all those libraries |
01:19.08 | ckknight | Funkeh`, odd, seeing as Dewdrop doesn't touch that |
01:19.19 | ckknight | sylvanaar, they're load-on-demand |
01:19.30 | ckknight | only loaded when needed |
01:19.39 | Funkeh` | you know what i mean though? |
01:19.44 | ckknight | no. |
01:19.46 | kergoth | sylvanaar: what do you mean? |
01:19.47 | vhaarr | ckknight: Detach a FBP tablet and go change the Size of the tablet. |
01:19.52 | vhaarr | ckknight: The slider is enormous. |
01:19.58 | kergoth | sylvanaar: if the libs are LoD, they wont be loaded when nothing uses them, if thats what you mean |
01:19.58 | Funkeh` | yes |
01:20.05 | Funkeh` | for example go to cartographer |
01:20.07 | ckknight | hrm. |
01:20.09 | Funkeh` | and adjust the scale |
01:20.12 | ckknight | okay, lemme see |
01:20.13 | ckknight | :-P |
01:20.16 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
01:20.22 | sylvanaar | kergoth: you know if somone says 'disable all mods' how do you get them enabled again |
01:20.38 | ckknight | one-by-one. |
01:21.01 | sylvanaar | ckknight: i know thats why i mentioned it |
01:21.11 | kergoth | the only way to change that would be to give the addon knowledge of the addon name thats supplying its library object |
01:21.14 | kergoth | ugly at best |
01:21.30 | kergoth | well, that said, the new X-AceLibrary fields could let you do it |
01:21.55 | sylvanaar | kergoth: hmmm, i have seen those but they arent really documented |
01:22.30 | Funkeh` | maiah im guessing there is no way to only show select classes on emergincy monitor by hiding the rest, would it be possible to select 'priority' classes so it would display a big X on non prio classes |
01:22.53 | maia | Funkeh`: currently there is no class/subgroup filtering, but there will be shortly |
01:23.01 | Funkeh` | oh, then ignore me :) |
01:23.03 | kergoth | sylvanaar: pretty sure tek intended that field to be used to allow AceLibrary to be able to load the library addons itself if necessary |
01:23.11 | kergoth | sylvanaar: which would be exactly what you were looking for |
01:24.01 | kergoth | has anyone implemented GetAddonMetadata in wowbench yet? |
01:24.07 | kergoth | or should i implement the .toc parsing? |
01:24.33 | haarm | Is there an Ace2d RaidTracker kinda mod yet? Trying to think of something to work on to get myself started learning Ace2 conventions |
01:25.16 | sylvanaar | kergoth: they arent all LOD i dont think also, use um SpecialActionEmbed for example |
01:25.17 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15892 10Cartographer/Modules/MapUnhider.lua: Cartographer - made MapUnhider's default dark color less pukish. |
01:25.43 | kergoth | specialeventsembed? |
01:25.44 | kergoth | it is |
01:25.55 | *** join/#wowace skoodat (n=skoodat@d36-16-222.home1.cgocable.net) |
01:26.01 | skoodat | hey hey everyone |
01:26.05 | ckknight | hey skoodat |
01:26.08 | Funkeh` | maia: all in all, great work, /salute :) |
01:26.14 | skoodat | i have an awesome question |
01:26.25 | skoodat | how do i make a profile with ace 2 |
01:26.30 | skoodat | like in ace 1 |
01:26.33 | skoodat | lol |
01:26.37 | Funkeh` | and whoever else worked on it :) |
01:26.41 | skoodat | or has it changed? |
01:27.09 | [FH]Birdemani | ckk - tried out cart all day, found no issues with it to speak of, however, the X to close it is off the map |
01:27.13 | skoodat | i know it use to be /ace profile..... |
01:27.26 | sylvanaar | kergoth: meh yeah it is i thought you had a second question |
01:27.28 | ckknight | skoodat, mmm... completely changed |
01:27.42 | ckknight | [FH]Birdemani, X to close it |
01:27.43 | ckknight | ? |
01:27.54 | [FH]Birdemani | yea, to close the map |
01:27.59 | skoodat | seee i use chatlog and its turning on the loging to file feature and i think its because thiers no profile for it |
01:28.00 | ckknight | what about it? |
01:28.02 | ckknight | it's in the top-right |
01:28.20 | skoodat | the saved vars file is nil |
01:28.22 | [FH]Birdemani | I have my scale set to 75% and the X is not on the map anymore |
01:28.35 | ckknight | move your world map. |
01:28.36 | [FH]Birdemani | its off to the right floating over my screen |
01:28.41 | ckknight | drag it around |
01:28.47 | [FH]Birdemani | it moves with it |
01:28.51 | [FH]Birdemani | woa, |
01:28.54 | [FH]Birdemani | got an error |
01:29.13 | ckknight | print missing? |
01:29.17 | [FH]Birdemani | yea |
01:29.19 | ckknight | yea |
01:29.20 | ckknight | update. |
01:29.31 | [FH]Birdemani | you getting the floating red x? |
01:29.48 | ckknight | just update. |
01:29.59 | [FH]Birdemani | k |
01:30.11 | [FH]Birdemani | pulling kt atm, so cant |
01:30.33 | Funkeh` | maia: for future notice, would be nice to be able to grow it down like squishy ;p |
01:30.41 | SkOODaT | ok so ckk could ya give me a hand |
01:30.47 | SkOODaT | to figure this out' |
01:30.50 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:31.00 | SkOODaT | ace is so confuseing i find |
01:31.03 | ckknight | busy right now. |
01:31.13 | sylvanaar | so, how do i get addon loading to work then? what goes in optdepts, embeds, and such now |
01:31.22 | maia | Funkeh`: there's always room for improvement |
01:31.24 | ckknight | ace is simple, it is you who try to find complexity and fail in doing so |
01:31.51 | SkOODaT | man the normal addon code i have no trubble with but i never seem to get ace working lol |
01:32.03 | SkOODaT | i am still learning tho |
01:32.06 | SkOODaT | :") |
01:32.09 | SkOODaT | :)* |
01:32.22 | ckknight | trouble. |
01:32.29 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:32.39 | ckknight | did you read the tutorials and all that? |
01:32.49 | SkOODaT | i have :) |
01:32.56 | ckknight | the Ace2 ones, I mean |
01:33.01 | ckknight | not the Ace 1.x ones |
01:33.10 | SkOODaT | yup :) |
01:33.17 | Xuerian | Did you look at other ace2 addons? |
01:33.25 | haarm | maia: here's an improvement, don't use so many submenus... they go off the edge of my screen and i can't see any options :) |
01:33.29 | SkOODaT | yup lol |
01:33.48 | SkOODaT | basically right now tho i just want to get chatlog to save its vars correct |
01:33.52 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:34.00 | haarm | or somehow make the submenu's clamped |
01:34.24 | maia | haarm: for now, move the icon to a corner of your fubar |
01:34.32 | vhaarr | SkOODaT: Could you please just pastebin your code? |
01:34.53 | haarm | yea I worked it out, but just saying as an improvement :) |
01:35.22 | SkOODaT | lol its not mine im just trying to fix "chatlog" its in the svn :) |
01:35.59 | SkOODaT | the general settings for it arent saveing it to log or not to log to file |
01:36.03 | haarm | lol never seen that yo momma before :) |
01:36.45 | SkOODaT | its logging to a file by default and i just would like to turn it off lol |
01:36.53 | sylvanaar | and if i want to distribute my mod - i still need to embaed everthing for now, so what are the proper settings to embeds and optdepts in this case |
01:37.02 | SkOODaT | other then that its an awesome addon |
01:37.04 | SkOODaT | :) |
01:37.51 | SkOODaT | pb_ee1 is the author has anyone seen him chatting over the last bit? |
01:37.56 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:38.11 | *** part/#wowace maia (n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at) |
01:38.15 | Industrial | I took this level 15 through RFC |
01:38.28 | Industrial | got like 3 kills in one all the time without getting hit |
01:38.32 | Industrial | lol |
01:38.33 | Industrial | :P |
01:38.50 | pb_ee1 | yop? |
01:38.52 | Kemayo | AceEvent question: is RegisterEvent throttling appropriate to use if I always want to trigger the handler off the last event received, or should I go for a BucketEvent for that? |
01:38.52 | ckknight | well aren't you the la-dee-dah mr. fancy man? |
01:38.59 | Industrial | charge whirlwind cleave next :P |
01:39.11 | vhaarr | Kemayo: Bucket. |
01:39.28 | pb_ee1 | Who said my name? I'm here :D |
01:39.44 | pb_ee1 | If you wanna talk to me, just say my name (woaaa) |
01:40.07 | SkOODaT | hey |
01:40.09 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:40.13 | SkOODaT | error with ur addon |
01:40.16 | SkOODaT | chatlog |
01:40.19 | pb_ee1 | Yep what's going on ;p |
01:40.29 | SkOODaT | its not saveing the vars |
01:40.33 | SkOODaT | the general ones |
01:40.36 | pb_ee1 | I'm playing atm and I don't have any problems ;p |
01:40.38 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
01:40.39 | pb_ee1 | Aha? |
01:41.02 | pb_ee1 | shoo |
01:41.02 | vhaarr | Gamefaq: ping |
01:41.02 | SkOODaT | its logging my chat text to a file and i dont want it to |
01:41.03 | haarm | pastamancer: /grid standby .. then /grid standby .. makes it jump from FuBar to the minimap |
01:41.06 | SkOODaT | even tho its all off |
01:41.14 | SkOODaT | i looked in the vars file and its nil |
01:41.19 | vhaarr | haarm: That's just how it is with FBP's. |
01:41.21 | pastamancer | haarm: yeah, I have no idea why |
01:41.28 | vhaarr | pastamancer: You can't prevent that. |
01:41.31 | haarm | oh? |
01:41.32 | vhaarr | :/ |
01:41.33 | haarm | mm |
01:41.46 | pb_ee1 | SkOODaT: you mean your problem is that you would like to log in the chat file only the logs that you enabled? |
01:41.49 | Gamefaq | whats up whaarr? |
01:41.50 | vhaarr | Or, actually you can, in a hackish way. |
01:41.53 | vhaarr | But it's not worth it. |
01:41.54 | SkOODaT | no |
01:41.59 | vhaarr | Gamefaq: test BW again, please. |
01:42.00 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:42.07 | haarm | first one i actually tested on, i was getting some weird lag spikes, looked like it was a OnUpdate freezing periodicly |
01:42.10 | Gamefaq | k |
01:42.11 | vhaarr | Gamefaq: regarding your MSBT bug |
01:42.15 | SkOODaT | i mean its by default turning on the "log chat to text" |
01:42.28 | SkOODaT | log chat to file i mean |
01:42.40 | SkOODaT | just like typeing in /chatlog in wow |
01:42.53 | pb_ee1 | Yep, I don't see the problem (trying to though ;p) |
01:43.19 | SkOODaT | here this is what your saved vars file in the main one looks like...... |
01:43.40 | SkOODaT | ChatLogDB = nil |
01:43.50 | SkOODaT | no saved vars |
01:44.08 | pb_ee1 | that's normal ;p |
01:44.12 | pb_ee1 | well, it seems |
01:44.19 | pb_ee1 | try to click on the "reset" button |
01:44.23 | SkOODaT | i have |
01:44.24 | pb_ee1 | and changing an option |
01:44.27 | pb_ee1 | then /reloadui |
01:44.45 | Gamefaq | vhaarr: right now we have here 02.45 and i will go sleep soon , i will test it tomorrow |
01:44.52 | SkOODaT | ive tried it all i am a mod author too so ... |
01:44.56 | vhaarr | Gamefaq: alright |
01:44.58 | SkOODaT | i need it like it was |
01:44.59 | SkOODaT | ["chatlog"] = false, |
01:44.59 | SkOODaT | ["combatlog"] = false, |
01:44.59 | SkOODaT | ["defaultlog"] = true, |
01:45.14 | SkOODaT | do u understand now? |
01:45.18 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:45.19 | SkOODaT | :) |
01:45.24 | pb_ee1 | well actually |
01:45.29 | pb_ee1 | It SEEMS but i'm not sure |
01:45.40 | pb_ee1 | that acedb only saves variables if they are different from the default |
01:46.04 | SkOODaT | like the box in wow to check to make it log to file is unchecked but it is still logging to wowchatlog.txt |
01:46.28 | XLVII | What's that AddOn that logs raid activity? |
01:47.03 | ckknight | SkOODaT, you using AceDB properly? |
01:47.20 | SkOODaT | see i dont know do i half to make a profile like the old ace |
01:47.23 | haarm | XLVII, funny you should ask that... |
01:47.31 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r15893 10Automaton/ (Automaton.toc Locale-koKR.lua): Automaton: Added koKR |
01:47.41 | haarm | <haarm> Is there an Ace2d RaidTracker kinda mod yet? Trying to think of something to work on to get myself started learning Ace2 |
01:47.52 | haarm | no reply, so I'll start work tomorrow :D |
01:48.40 | ckknight | k |
01:48.54 | Funkeh` | make it work with eqdkp and your golden |
01:48.57 | ckknight | SkOODaT, read the wiki |
01:49.09 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: When I'm using ResetDB('account') it pops me an error |
01:49.15 | ckknight | :-( |
01:49.27 | pb_ee1 | even if I have done RegisterDefaults('account', { something } ) |
01:49.33 | SkOODaT | can someone give me the addy to the wiki on acedb commands lol |
01:49.43 | CIA-17 | wowbench: 03kergoth * r132 10/trunk/api.lua: Implement GetAddOnMetadata. |
01:49.54 | haarm | well... it was almost possible Funkeh`, someone found a bug earlier today, and with a bit of playing we found we could make WoW connect to webservers and pass parameters to urls etc |
01:50.01 | SkOODaT | you deffinately in the right area pb_ee1 |
01:50.07 | haarm | but Cairenn reported it :( |
01:50.08 | SkOODaT | thats what my issue is |
01:50.08 | kergoth | okay, now to get GameTooltip.AddFontString so gratuity will work |
01:50.10 | SkOODaT | :) |
01:50.11 | Xuerian | haarm: There isn't a fully detailed one yet, but XLoot Monitor includes a functional log that tracks the group/raid |
01:50.16 | pb_ee1 | SkOODaT: what do you mean? ;) |
01:50.18 | sylvanaar | ckknight: are you going to invent another mapnotes format, or support one of the existing ones? |
01:50.31 | ckknight | probably a new format. |
01:50.50 | ckknight | that was my thought, at least |
01:50.52 | SkOODaT | its not saveing the var to turn off logging to wowchatlog.txt |
01:51.03 | Funkeh` | ckknight: did you manage to replicate the massive scrollbars? ;p |
01:51.04 | ckknight | SkOODaT, you're not using AceDB properly, then. |
01:51.13 | ckknight | nope, Funkeh` |
01:51.15 | SkOODaT | see that was my first qustion |
01:51.18 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:51.37 | pb_ee1 | SkOODaT: Don't have any problems, maybe you should update your release, but I don't think it's coming from this |
01:51.40 | ckknight | seems to work in Cartographer, Funkeh` |
01:52.00 | SkOODaT | it may be what ckk is saying that i am not uesing acedb right |
01:52.05 | CIA-17 | 03sayclub * r15894 10Automaton/Locale-koKR.lua: Automaton: correct my miss typing |
01:52.16 | SkOODaT | do i half to make a profiel like in ace1? |
01:52.34 | SkOODaT | or where is the wiki page on this |
01:52.41 | SkOODaT | the addy would be so helpfull |
01:52.47 | ckknight | SkOODaT, look on the site. |
01:52.50 | vhaarr | ckknight: I get the problem as well, just get any dewdrop with a type=range and expand it. |
01:52.51 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/ |
01:52.52 | sylvanaar | ckknight: perhaps this is a good type of module for Interview - the mapnotes sharing part |
01:52.59 | ckknight | vhaarr, I'm not getting it |
01:53.02 | vhaarr | weird |
01:53.04 | pb_ee1 | SkOODaT: Actually you don't even have to make a profile |
01:53.13 | pb_ee1 | SkOODaT: All should be automaticly done |
01:53.14 | ckknight | sylvanaar, no, it's not. it's something that should be done with AceComm |
01:53.24 | Funkeh` | urgg >.> |
01:53.29 | sylvanaar | ckknight: interview uses AceComm |
01:53.44 | ckknight | the mapnotes doesn't need to use interview, imho |
01:53.50 | SkOODaT | ok ckk is this the page http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0 |
01:53.55 | ckknight | yes. |
01:53.58 | ckknight | read it. |
01:54.09 | SkOODaT | cause if it is where do i find a /command to enable profiles if not i am not makoing a mod |
01:54.15 | SkOODaT | er addon |
01:54.18 | vhaarr | ckknight: This commit caused it: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/15806 |
01:54.21 | ckknight | we are not talking about that, SkOODaT |
01:54.25 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:54.27 | pb_ee1 | SkOODaT: Please give me more info if you have. I would be pleased to know if you discovered a bug ;) (don't think so but who knows... ;p) |
01:54.30 | SkOODaT | see i cant find it then |
01:54.53 | ckknight | SkOODaT, read the goddamn wiki page. |
01:55.00 | ckknight | it's clear you haven't. |
01:55.19 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:55.20 | sylvanaar | the interview module could let you get share mapnotes with people not running cartographer |
01:55.23 | Gamefaq | i think you done it vhaar with self test no errors, test in raid tomorrow...gn8 all :) |
01:56.39 | ckknight | vhaarr, if you find a fix for it, great, cause I can't reproduce |
01:56.51 | vhaarr | ckknight: I just logged in, I'll poke a bit |
01:56.56 | ckknight | alright, cool |
01:57.29 | SkOODaT | ckk i cant not find what ever your suggestion everypage goes back to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0 |
01:57.38 | SkOODaT | \ |
01:57.45 | SkOODaT | could ya just give me the link lol |
01:57.56 | ckknight | stop saying lol, goddammit |
01:58.02 | ckknight | it's thoroghly pissing me off |
01:58.10 | [Wobin] | . o ( lol ) |
01:58.14 | ckknight | also, you haven't provided any clear description of your problem |
01:58.21 | ckknight | which is very disconcerting |
01:58.33 | SkOODaT | msn i dont know how elase to say it |
01:58.36 | ckknight | you just keep talking about your problem and slash commands, without actually describing it. |
01:58.36 | SkOODaT | man* |
01:58.58 | SkOODaT | ckk you obv dont understand |
01:58.59 | ckknight | therefore, I can't help you |
01:59.01 | Xuerian | SkOODaT: How about you tell us (again) what you're trying to accomplish. |
01:59.17 | SkOODaT | lol |
01:59.23 | Funkeh` | ask purl i bet he knows |
01:59.24 | SkOODaT | im going to cry lol |
01:59.28 | Xuerian | One more time. |
01:59.35 | Xuerian | And I'm pretty sure purl is female. |
01:59.41 | SkOODaT | ok start from beginning |
01:59.43 | kergoth | what do you mean by "enable profiles"? |
01:59.44 | Xuerian | For.... a androgenous bot. |
01:59.45 | ckknight | yea, purl's female |
01:59.52 | Funkeh` | if shes female she must be blonde? |
01:59.58 | ckknight | no, not necessarily |
02:00.03 | Xuerian | ~comfort ckknight |
02:00.04 | purl | There, there, ckknight. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
02:00.07 | Xuerian | Hm |
02:00.08 | ckknight | granted, I'm sure purl dyes her hair. |
02:00.09 | Xuerian | ~console ckknight |
02:00.10 | purl | ACTION gives ckknight the consolation moose |
02:00.14 | Xuerian | Gr. |
02:00.15 | Funkeh` | ;-) |
02:00.17 | ckknight | lol. |
02:00.18 | ckknight | moose |
02:00.24 | [Wobin] | WINNAR |
02:01.28 | Xuerian | SkOODaT: If you mean you want to use profiles with your mod, you need to initialize with AceDB/AceConsole, then register a slash command with aceconsole, it will automatically tack on the profile options |
02:02.03 | vhaarr | ckknight: sliderFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) -> sliderFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, nil) caused it. |
02:02.12 | ckknight | hrm |
02:02.13 | vhaarr | ckknight: Probably because it doesn't inherit the UI scale from anywhere now. |
02:02.14 | ckknight | okay |
02:02.14 | kergoth | SkOODaT: every ace2 addon that uses acedb/aceconsole supports profiles, and can ahve its profile switched using its chat commands. what else do you need? |
02:02.17 | vhaarr | So it has to be set manually. |
02:02.18 | ckknight | ah, alright. |
02:02.19 | SkOODaT | ok lets start.... first i am not making a mod i am fixing one |
02:02.20 | ckknight | feel free to fix. |
02:02.33 | SkOODaT | i am trying to fix "chatlog" |
02:02.40 | Xuerian | Oh, chatlog isn't saving settings, right? |
02:02.46 | Xuerian | Or saving the log? |
02:02.48 | SkOODaT | OMG |
02:02.50 | SkOODaT | BIUNGO |
02:02.52 | SkOODaT | !!!! |
02:02.59 | ckknight | biungo! |
02:03.04 | SkOODaT | BINGO |
02:03.04 | Xuerian | Hey, I read chat, I just can't remember worth shit |
02:03.05 | Xuerian | :P |
02:03.06 | SkOODaT | lol |
02:03.19 | ckknight | indoor voice, SkOODaT |
02:03.22 | ckknight | ah, classtime |
02:03.26 | Xuerian | Have fun, ckknight. |
02:03.28 | sylvanaar | anyone done any work with codegenerators for ace code? |
02:03.33 | SkOODaT | lol took forever |
02:03.45 | Xuerian | May thy trip be blessed with fewer loling skoo. |
02:04.10 | Xuerian | Anyway, SkOODaT, let's trim down the problem. Do settings for chatlog save? |
02:04.27 | SkOODaT | Xuerian> Oh, chatlog isn't saving settings, right? this the issue its more spacifically not saveing ChatLogDB right |
02:04.56 | Xuerian | Sounds like the issues prat was having. |
02:05.28 | SkOODaT | its logging the chat to a file and i dont want it to |
02:05.45 | SkOODaT | no |
02:05.49 | Xuerian | o.0 |
02:05.51 | SkOODaT | its ChatLogDB = nil |
02:06.09 | SkOODaT | but ChatLogDBPerChar is working fine :) |
02:06.31 | SkOODaT | :) ty so much lol |
02:07.02 | Xuerian | For reference, it's much easier to start out in ace2 writing your own mod/working in your own code, than debugging someone else :P |
02:07.17 | SkOODaT | i know ive debugged b4 :) |
02:07.58 | SkOODaT | ive been able to make about 10 of my own addons so far and i self taught myself lua and i dont know how to code lol |
02:08.13 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15895 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0: Fix editbox and slider scaling. |
02:08.28 | Meiun_ | satana |
02:08.48 | SkOODaT | now im starting to learn ace 2 :) |
02:08.54 | SkOODaT | cause i know its nicer |
02:08.59 | SkOODaT | on mem :) |
02:09.58 | Xuerian | Just remember; Ace2 doesn't magically make garbage go away, it just provides a lot of shortcuts that have been refined to not waste much in themselves :) |
02:11.39 | SkOODaT | yes and instaed of having 300 different addons uesing the same thing over and over multi addon use the same things :) so all in all its is better |
02:12.00 | Xuerian | pb_ee1|play: Is there a problem with ChatLog that you're aware of? |
02:12.19 | SkOODaT | he tried to help me but he could find anyhting |
02:12.29 | SkOODaT | coudnt |
02:12.30 | Xuerian | So it's working for other people, and not for you? |
02:12.31 | SkOODaT | * |
02:12.46 | SkOODaT | i guess im not shure |
02:12.48 | pb_ee1|play | Xuerian: Not at all |
02:12.58 | Kirkburn | *** The vote is on! *** Vote for your favourite WoWWiki icon! Please :) http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Proposed_icon#Votes |
02:12.59 | pb_ee1|play | I'm using it atm |
02:13.01 | SkOODaT | here ill remove my ui and try it |
02:13.01 | Xuerian | SkOODaT: Are you disembedding? |
02:13.05 | SkOODaT | brb in a few |
02:13.25 | pb_ee1|play | I disable an option /script ReloadUI() and the option stays disabled |
02:14.07 | Xuerian | Sounds a lot like the prat problem |
02:14.44 | SkOODaT | ya but have you looked in your log dir in the wow dir is thier a wowchatlog.txt |
02:14.55 | SkOODaT | lol |
02:14.58 | Xuerian | Wow does that. o.0 |
02:15.02 | pb_ee1|play | yep there is |
02:15.04 | Xuerian | Not chatlog... |
02:15.21 | SkOODaT | if its off thier shouldnt be correct? |
02:15.22 | pb_ee1|play | ChatLog just adds two checkboxes to do it |
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02:15.45 | pb_ee1|play | SkOODaT: I have one, but it is very old (was for testing purpose) |
02:16.00 | SkOODaT | like my check box in game is off/unchecked but it is still logging to the file |
02:16.26 | SkOODaT | del it and play and check again |
02:16.42 | SkOODaT | make shure its in wow in "chatlog" |
02:16.46 | SkOODaT | off* |
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02:16.56 | SkOODaT | see if it still get generated |
02:17.16 | SkOODaT | i have latest release off the svn too |
02:18.07 | pb_ee1|play | I enabled the option: quit it's ok |
02:18.22 | pb_ee1|play | now trying what you told me |
02:18.42 | SkOODaT | lol dont enable it |
02:18.56 | SkOODaT | if its unchecked it should not log right? |
02:19.10 | SkOODaT | well on mine its unchecked but its still logging it |
02:19.11 | pb_ee1|play | I unchecked it |
02:19.13 | pb_ee1|play | logout |
02:19.14 | SkOODaT | ok |
02:19.22 | SkOODaT | del you log file tho |
02:19.24 | pb_ee1|play | login atm |
02:19.31 | SkOODaT | im trying too with no addons other then yours |
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02:20.04 | SkOODaT | sorrry everyone for all my blabing lol |
02:20.08 | SkOODaT | :) |
02:20.12 | SkOODaT | but ty too :) |
02:20.21 | pb_ee1|play | let me kill mr.smite and I'll log again to check ;p |
02:21.41 | pb_ee1|play | i looged out |
02:21.45 | pb_ee1|play | no wowchatlog.txt file |
02:21.57 | pb_ee1|play | it's working as expected here |
02:22.48 | SkOODaT | ok im still logging in im in queue |
02:23.03 | pb_ee1|play | try updating without externals |
02:23.10 | pb_ee1|play | and taking each library seperately |
02:23.19 | pb_ee1|play | I have 69 AddOns |
02:23.28 | pb_ee1|play | But 40 of them at least are libraries |
02:23.40 | SkOODaT | i use libs addon with all of them and i removed the info off your toc |
02:23.49 | SkOODaT | could that be doing it |
02:24.03 | SkOODaT | like i use the stand alone libs folder |
02:24.18 | SkOODaT | cause i have like 100 ace addons |
02:25.12 | pb_ee1|play | Chainging info in my .TOC file shoudln't change anything |
02:25.50 | vhaarr | pb_ee1|play: Why do you use .account anyway? |
02:26.24 | vhaarr | .profile is the most commonly used database. |
02:27.05 | pb_ee1|play | vhaarr: Well I don't really understand what is the difference |
02:27.15 | pb_ee1|play | Maybe I should change from account to profile |
02:27.43 | SkOODaT | gimme a few to try a few different thing |
02:27.44 | SkOODaT | s |
02:28.11 | pb_ee1|play | I'll see this tomorrow, I'll change from account to profile |
02:28.33 | vhaarr | pb_ee1|play: The difference is that there can be only one account, but many profiles. |
02:29.29 | pb_ee1|play | vhaarr: Hum. ChatLog profile only saves three things, I was thinking that these settings would be common to all characters in the same account |
02:29.35 | vhaarr | pb_ee1|play: You can create new profiles as you want, like "My ChatLog profile while raiding." |
02:29.57 | pb_ee1|play | Aha |
02:30.03 | kergoth | you should always leave it in control of the user, they can then set their profile to what they want. if you want, you can make .profile be account by default |
02:30.13 | pb_ee1|play | vhaarr: You're right. It is better to use profile than account |
02:30.19 | vhaarr | indeed |
02:30.33 | pb_ee1|play | kergoth: Thanks for your advice, I'll change it tomorrow |
02:30.46 | vhaarr | In other news, blizzard just increase the XP needed to level from 67 to 68 by 230k in beta. |
02:30.51 | vhaarr | increased* |
02:31.04 | vhaarr | The level cap is still 67, though. |
02:32.11 | [Wobin] | ie to keep people busy =P |
02:33.08 | vhaarr | Well, it sucks for people who get accounts now, if they want to level. |
02:33.27 | vhaarr | They'll spend like twice the amount of time current level 67'ers did. |
02:33.42 | vhaarr | I don't see the point in raising that bar in beta. |
02:36.09 | [Wobin] | well if they leave the level cap on |
02:36.24 | [Wobin] | and not increase the xp req |
02:36.34 | [Wobin] | all the ones near the top will stop playing those characters |
02:36.49 | [Wobin] | since they'll want to save all the quests etc til the xp does something for them |
02:36.54 | vhaarr | err .. no |
02:36.55 | vhaarr | :P |
02:37.15 | [Wobin] | oh, do you still get xp? |
02:37.24 | [Wobin] | then it retroactively applies once the cap is removed? |
02:37.28 | vhaarr | no, but people don't care |
02:37.30 | vhaarr | noone cares |
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02:38.03 | SkOODaT | man i cant figure this out lol im going to go play for a while ill msg ya back on here if i figure this out but TY all For All The help :):) |
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02:38.36 | [Wobin] | lol =P |
02:39.04 | vhaarr | Maybe if he focused on explaining things better instead of just laughing continously, we'd understand him. |
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02:40.59 | Xuerian | I always thought wow saved the chat log by default... >_> |
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02:42.54 | haarm | /chatlog will do it for you :) |
02:42.59 | haarm | same as /combatlog |
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03:01.13 | vurlix | silly question.. how do i reset a ace2 mod's settings ingame? |
03:04.04 | arkanes | select the defaul profile |
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03:07.53 | vurlix | i'm already using the default profile |
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03:12.35 | vurlix | hmm |
03:12.50 | haarm | I didn't tip it off ;x |
03:12.55 | vurlix | when i change my setting profile for Grid, the settings don't load |
03:13.06 | Kirkburn | Yeah you did |
03:14.03 | haarm | :( |
03:14.08 | Kirkburn | How didit get on the floor otherwise, silly |
03:14.20 | Kirkburn | I didn't just take it off your head and give it back to you, y'know :) |
03:15.13 | haarm | I blame the ClosetGnome |
03:15.24 | haarm | he threw it off! |
03:15.25 | pastamancer | vurlix: hmm |
03:16.26 | Mi|es | w00tness |
03:16.48 | Mi|es | got my stack-aware profiler working |
03:16.51 | Mi|es | http://digibites.net/profiler.txt |
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03:18.20 | haarm | nice Mi|es |
03:18.20 | ag` | oh damn |
03:18.22 | Kirkburn | G'night all |
03:18.24 | ag` | I lost my visa |
03:18.29 | ag` | dunno where it is |
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03:18.39 | ag` | and I have 5 hours until I have to get up |
03:18.41 | ag` | ugh |
03:18.46 | ag` | sleepy time |
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03:39.25 | vurlix | AddOns\Grid\GridStatusName.lua:82: attempt to index local `u' (a nil value) |
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03:41.33 | pastamancer | odd, that would mean that rosterlib didn't have the unit |
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03:41.48 | pastamancer | what were you doing when that error happened? |
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03:42.39 | DrDre | erm i forgot i was in bnc lol, ive not even been on this entire time :P |
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03:52.14 | Zeryl | Xuerian: are you here? |
03:52.38 | Xuerian | Unfortunately. |
03:52.42 | Zeryl | lol |
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03:52.48 | Zeryl | oh, sorry, i'll let you be, lol |
03:53.02 | Xuerian | Nah, I'm here, what's up? |
03:53.22 | Zeryl | in XLootMonitor, i'm getting attempt to call global nilTable errors |
03:53.31 | Zeryl | i've updated xloot and xlootmonitor to newest versions |
03:53.48 | Zeryl | and i see in the changelog that you had to add stuff to xlootmonitor due to xloot rollback |
03:53.58 | Xuerian | This last update; did you restart wow after it? |
03:54.35 | Zeryl | this is the second time i've looked total noob on your addons :( |
03:54.49 | Zeryl | i haven't, since i've always just reloaded |
03:54.58 | Xuerian | Most updates can be done with a reload, so that's logical |
03:55.15 | Xuerian | I did a lot of splitting and remerging and ended up with a fresh file |
03:56.03 | Zeryl | I love your set of addons there though, :) |
03:56.11 | Xuerian | =) |
03:56.16 | Zeryl | OHH, i do have one other issue, but i don't have the error on hand |
03:56.26 | Zeryl | self-loot has ALWAYS error'd for me |
03:56.38 | Xuerian | I think I fixed it this update. |
03:56.40 | Xuerian | Last night? |
03:56.45 | Zeryl | and i'm gonna d/c |
03:56.47 | Zeryl | yep |
03:56.49 | Zeryl | last night |
03:57.00 | Xuerian | Should be fixed, I did three commits on master last night |
03:57.12 | Xuerian | After getting called on not setting variables I used :p |
03:57.48 | Zeryl | i'll try to ML this trash to see if it works |
03:59.14 | Xuerian | Sounds good =) |
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04:12.58 | Zeryl | bah, raid called, won't be able to test it tonight. thanks again for your help xuerian |
04:13.13 | Xuerian | There's always another day. sure :p |
04:13.32 | Zeryl | if it happens, i'll make sure to keep the error, heh. but if you say you fixed it, i believe you |
04:14.22 | Xuerian | I don't.... use.... the mod..... >_> |
04:14.49 | Zeryl | it's an amazing mod. I wrote a very BASIC version of the announce part a couple months ago |
04:15.57 | Zeryl | would it be possible to get a second "button" on the bottom left that you can set to a specific channel for announce? such as raid? |
04:16.24 | Xuerian | Hm? You mean the link all? |
04:16.42 | Xuerian | As in a secondary button? o_0 |
04:16.45 | Zeryl | ya, but to a static channel so you don't have to click the channel each time (just convenience, nothing major) |
04:17.17 | Zeryl | i'm lazy, heh |
04:17.48 | Xuerian | There's the always link to... menu... |
04:18.12 | Xuerian | Makes it so it always links to said channel[s] when you left-click the button, and the menu always comes up on right click |
04:18.17 | Xuerian | .... i think |
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04:18.24 | Zeryl | ohhh, i'll look at that then |
04:18.33 | Zeryl | i hadn't seen that part |
04:19.00 | Xuerian | Exhibit A of why I don't document my mods. |
04:19.03 | Xuerian | People talk to me. |
04:19.08 | Xuerian | :P |
04:19.17 | Zeryl | Lol, well, i guess that's good |
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04:22.36 | Zeryl | ok, well leading ZG now, so I can test it out for sure |
04:22.47 | Xuerian | Heh, that works. :p |
04:23.10 | Xuerian | The only thing I'm aware of that doesn't work as intended is rolls don't seem to be sorted in descending order. |
04:24.22 | Zeryl | I was surprised to see that LUA was missing trim, so it wouldn't surprise me that there is no sort in lua |
04:25.10 | Xuerian | <PROTECTED> |
04:25.11 | Wobin | aside from table.sort? |
04:25.21 | Xuerian | It just doesn't handle non-integer hashes |
04:25.37 | Xuerian | or non-sequential integer hashes. |
04:25.51 | kergoth | non-array sorting wouldnt make any sense |
04:25.52 | Wobin | you could just have a custom sort function |
04:26.03 | kergoth | there's no defined order |
04:26.35 | Xuerian | Non-array sorting? |
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04:27.21 | Xuerian | and Wobin, you could, but pairs() and next() don't return anything in a predictable order when iterating over a hash |
04:27.53 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
04:27.57 | Wobin | unhash it then =) |
04:28.08 | Xuerian | o_0 |
04:28.27 | Xuerian | Not.... really... doable |
04:28.35 | Wobin | alas |
04:28.55 | Wobin | you could always put the rolls in a separate table |
04:29.08 | Xuerian | { rollrange = { player1 = roll, player2 = roll, player3 = roll }, rollrange2 = { etc } } |
04:30.03 | Xuerian | technically I'm currently using player = { roll = roll }, because I was intending to store expirations independantly, but dumped it in favor of a capture timeout :P |
04:30.17 | Wobin | rollrange = { {player1, roll}, {player2, roll}}? |
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04:30.38 | Xuerian | 0.o |
04:31.14 | Xuerian | No, it seems like it'd work, it's just my brain likes hashes, and lua doesn't |
04:32.44 | Tekkub | who shall I choke? |
04:32.55 | Tekkub | *opens blame log in tort |
04:35.02 | Xuerian | Tekkub: What got messed up? |
04:35.24 | Tekkub | just people not using AceDB defaults |
04:35.38 | Tekkub | if not self.db.profile.blah then ... |
04:35.42 | Tekkub | *eyeroll* |
04:36.00 | Xuerian | <PROTECTED> |
04:36.48 | Tekkub | and hardcoding in defaults that are already in the game |
04:37.08 | Tekkub | hint, if the minimap hasn't been moved, don't need to set it at all |
04:37.19 | Zeryl | is there a ct_mod equivalent (really just want the coords on the main map) |
04:37.37 | Zeryl | s/map)/map), in ace/ |
04:38.04 | Zeryl | map mod, not ct_mod, bah |
04:38.31 | Tekkub | LocationFu |
04:38.48 | Tekkub | and why are we moving Minimap and not MinimapCluster |
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04:40.26 | Xuerian | Heeee's HOOOOOMMEEE |
04:41.12 | ckknight | hey all |
04:41.27 | ckknight | indoor voice, Xuerian |
04:41.59 | Xuerian | But I am using my indoor voice. I was hollerin' down to the basment. For.... tekkub. yeah. I think. |
04:42.08 | *** mode/#wowace [-v Xuerian] by ckknight |
04:42.14 | Xuerian | 0_o |
04:42.15 | ckknight | :-P |
04:42.24 | Xuerian | I was voice again? Blast! |
04:42.37 | ckknight | no, you weren't |
04:42.41 | Xuerian | ;P |
04:42.44 | ckknight | I can remove it even if it doesn't exist |
04:42.52 | Xuerian | It's magic o.0 |
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04:46.49 | mjc_ | sooooooooooooooooooo drunk. |
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04:48.04 | ckknight | :-( |
04:49.30 | ckknight | I need advice for map notes |
04:49.48 | ckknight | I'm thinking of just using the raid icons as the POI images |
04:49.54 | ckknight | this a good idea or a bad idea? |
04:50.03 | Zeryl | good idea i would think |
04:50.10 | ckknight | seems like a good idea to me |
04:50.17 | MentalPower | what about the game's PoI icons? |
04:50.18 | ckknight | they're clear, people know em |
04:50.20 | Zeryl | skull for those elite mobs that can't be killed, lol |
04:50.42 | ckknight | MentalPower, what does the game provide? |
04:50.53 | ckknight | see, I don't want a bunch of dots that look alike but differ by color |
04:51.04 | ckknight | like all other map notes things |
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04:51.58 | ckknight | by using the raid icons, it can actually represent something |
04:52.05 | ckknight | and the icons are nice and distinct |
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04:53.53 | Tekkub | ~goodideabadidea |
04:54.02 | Tekkub | hrm... |
04:54.09 | Tekkub | ~good idea bad idea |
04:54.10 | purl | Good idea bad idea, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
04:54.20 | Tekkub | nope... |
04:54.27 | Tekkub | ~goodidea badidea |
04:54.33 | Tekkub | where did I hide that? |
04:54.38 | ckknight | listkeys? |
04:54.40 | Tekkub | ~GI BI |
04:54.45 | ckknight | ~gibi |
04:54.48 | purl | [gibi] 2^30 |
04:54.52 | ckknight | hehe. |
04:55.04 | Tekkub | buggernuts |
04:55.35 | Tekkub | hrm.... |
04:55.41 | ckknight | hrm, 2.0.1 was released |
04:55.43 | Tekkub | fuck it |
04:56.19 | [FH]Birdemani | yea, all the tier 4 shit is out |
04:56.39 | [FH]Birdemani | finally killed KT tonight, where is my beta key now? |
04:56.43 | [FH]Birdemani | damnit |
04:56.58 | ckknight | you don't deserve one. |
04:57.02 | pastamancer | bleh, time to add a UPS to the shopping list... my roommate plugged in a space heater and blew the circuit my computer is plugged into |
04:57.04 | ckknight | mwahaha |
04:57.11 | [FH]Birdemani | :( |
04:57.15 | ckknight | sucks, pasta |
04:57.21 | [FH]Birdemani | dont think all the US guild invites went out yet |
04:57.44 | pastamancer | it's only 45F out even! |
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05:02.41 | fathom | is there any way to get the "you have unread mail" thing to go away when i know i don't have mail? |
05:04.34 | pastamancer | hmmm |
05:05.12 | pastamancer | I'm using :AcquireDBNamespace in Grid for each module's db, but self.db in each module doesn't appear to be updated when I switch profiles |
05:05.51 | ckknight | can other people get on beta? |
05:06.10 | ckknight | I'm trying to log on but it says my pasword is wrong |
05:06.48 | ckknight | nvm, found the issue |
05:19.43 | Silviu- | anyone with 100% finished patch can help seed for 5 mins ? ;) |
05:20.08 | Tekkub | wheeeeee |
05:20.20 | Tekkub | Squeenix is abut 50% Pratted now |
05:20.54 | Silviu- | enGB |
05:21.05 | ckknight | Pratted? |
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05:34.34 | Tekkub | ckk, split all the functions out into little modules |
05:34.55 | Tekkub | everyone got their hands on Squeenix and added features I never wanted |
05:35.08 | Tekkub | I just wanted a square map, nothin else |
05:35.26 | Tekkub | but like this all those other bishies can have their shit too |
05:37.09 | ckknight_ | ah, okay |
05:37.20 | ckknight_ | I'm glad I'm making Cartographer modularized |
05:38.00 | ckknight_ | so much simpler to handle |
05:38.02 | ckknight_ | and understand |
05:38.10 | ckknight_ | AlphaMap is a big, ugly mess |
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05:41.18 | sylvanaar | =) - the ugly part |
05:43.58 | pastamancer | I feel really dirty calling rawset(self.db, "profile", nil) in each module, but that appears to be the only way to reset the self.db.profile if the active profile is changed |
05:45.50 | ckknight | hrm |
05:45.53 | ckknight | yea, that's about right. |
05:46.31 | pastamancer | ideally, SetProfile on the core of the addon would invalidate the cached profiles in the namespaces |
05:46.42 | pastamancer | IMO at least |
05:47.03 | ckknight | hrm |
05:47.07 | pastamancer | it is... non-intuitive currently |
05:47.08 | ckknight | lemme look into it. |
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05:55.42 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15896 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - profile switching now switches namespaces properly. |
05:56.33 | nymbia | ok, time for me to babble a bit |
05:56.39 | nymbia | in manufac, right now |
05:57.14 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r15897 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - profile switching now switches namespaces properly. |
05:57.15 | ckknight | pastamancer, ;-) |
05:57.25 | nymbia | it scans the list of spells in a tradeskill once on the first level |
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05:57.52 | nymbia | the second level it scans it again, and also queries the spells directly for number and difficulty information |
05:58.20 | nymbia | and on the third level it checks the difficulty etc info again, as well as scanning reagents |
05:58.50 | nymbia | this is all done by using simple tradeskill function calls, and it feels bogged down when the whole dewdrop has to refresh |
05:59.34 | pastamancer | ckknight: I'll update now and make sure it works ;) |
05:59.38 | nymbia | i know it'd be faster to store some or all of this info in a local table |
06:00.00 | nymbia | but will it be faster enough to be worth the extra memory footprint? |
06:00.35 | pastamancer | ckknight: yay |
06:01.22 | nymbia | (since i didnt get any resounding "no!"s, i'm gonna try it and see) |
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06:02.42 | nymbia | oh and that way i can store em by sub-category and not have to loop through the whole table on the second level.. |
06:02.51 | nymbia | k i think i've talked myself into it ;) |
06:03.47 | pastamancer | hum... I can't find a 'register account' link for Trac |
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07:01.47 | Grine | hey ppl |
07:03.28 | ckknight | hey Grine |
07:07.02 | Kala|Sleep | Oh man. Major Makoto is a total pedo |
07:07.19 | ckknight | ? |
07:07.59 | Kalamadi | Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, season 2, episode 17 |
07:08.11 | Kalamadi | Boy says to her, "can complete cyborgs...have sex?" |
07:08.16 | Kalamadi | And she replies, "wanna try?" |
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07:17.18 | [Liquidor] | What time is it over in US? |
07:17.53 | Kalamadi | Which zone? |
07:17.59 | Kalamadi | It's 2:17 AM EST |
07:24.22 | Kalamadi | Oh! Oh! They made a mistake! When Batou's reading a German book, he flips the pages backwards |
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07:32.45 | CIA-17 | 03pastamancer * r15898 10Grid/ (10 files): |
07:32.45 | CIA-17 | Grid: |
07:32.45 | CIA-17 | - Better support for switching profiles without reloading the UI. |
07:32.46 | CIA-17 | - Status modules use self.core instead of the global GridStatus. |
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07:43.56 | [Liquidor] | hi ckknight |
07:44.47 | ckknight_ | my router doesn't like bittorrent |
07:44.49 | [Liquidor] | What's the function called to activate/deactivate addons while playing followed by a reloadui ? |
07:45.40 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
07:45.41 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
07:45.50 | ckknight | :-P |
07:45.58 | [Liquidor] | hehe don't got ace2 running :) |
07:46.08 | ckknight | lamer. |
07:46.15 | ckknight | how do you not have ace2 running? |
07:46.35 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
07:47.18 | [Liquidor] | EnableAddOn reversed eh? |
07:47.22 | ckknight | yep |
07:47.24 | ckknight | amazing, eh? |
07:47.27 | [Liquidor] | eh |
07:47.36 | [Liquidor] | :) |
07:47.50 | [Liquidor] | Just saw an API for LoadAddon which is why I asked |
07:48.34 | [Liquidor] | Well ckknight, let me know of a really usefull addon for a mage using the Ace2 lib |
07:48.43 | [Liquidor] | And I shall use it :| |
07:48.54 | ckknight | I dunno, I don't play WoW |
07:50.01 | [Liquidor] | Same on 1st part |
07:50.25 | [Liquidor] | Anything on the SVN used by mages? |
07:51.01 | [Liquidor] | Or Battleground related |
07:52.58 | Funkeh` | capping i find very nice for bg's |
07:53.35 | [Liquidor] | Tell me more, what does it do? |
07:53.37 | [Liquidor] | Timers? |
07:53.59 | Funkeh` | pvp bg timers |
07:54.07 | Funkeh` | for capping bases etc |
07:54.23 | Silviu- | I like the wsg functionality target the flagcarrier :> |
07:54.28 | Silviu- | And colour by class |
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07:55.11 | Funkeh` | do you know that LV sends sync messages for its bg mod? for bases capped etc? are they jsut totally stupid or what? |
07:56.00 | weab | what if you reloadui during a match, or join in the middle of one! |
07:56.40 | Silviu- | LV ? |
07:56.43 | [Liquidor] | LV? |
07:56.50 | Funkeh` | weab are you talking about after tbc? |
07:57.04 | Funkeh` | la vendetta |
07:57.19 | Silviu- | never used it |
07:57.24 | Funkeh` | neither do i |
07:57.31 | Funkeh` | but i was looking at the sync channel |
07:57.46 | Silviu- | Didin`t know :) |
07:58.14 | Funkeh` | in bgs it shows a message what bases are capped wherever you are there is no out of range, it doesnt use the combatlog its jsut a message |
07:58.24 | Funkeh` | why you need to sync that is beyond me >.> |
07:58.49 | Silviu- | To have a little higher increase in mem :P |
07:58.55 | Funkeh` | lol |
07:59.23 | [Liquidor] | I'd like a little addon for rep calculation |
07:59.26 | [Liquidor] | for bgs |
07:59.44 | Funkeh` | ckknight, out of curiousity, are sync messages processed even if you dont have the specific addon? |
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08:02.02 | ckknight | with AceComm? |
08:02.12 | ckknight | if you don't have the addon to recognize it, it will stop ASAP |
08:02.37 | Funkeh` | no i mean, will wow use any kind of memory on reading it |
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08:03.21 | [Ammo] | it probably wil |
08:03.32 | Funkeh` | so for example if you join a 20 man pug of people using the worst syncing addons ever are you gonna end up with a higher memory usage |
08:04.03 | [Ammo] | they're events fired |
08:04.11 | [Ammo] | every event fired by blizzard eats some mem, not much though |
08:04.58 | Funkeh` | so its a good thing that i analyse my raid guilds sync channel now and then and tell them off for using shit addons? ;p |
08:05.00 | [Liquidor] | I think he's talking about the synced messages. The manuial ones |
08:05.01 | sylvanaar | Funkeh`: the only thing you can do, is have only 1 addon listening on the addon message event and route them yourself |
08:06.11 | [Liquidor] | What kind of event should I register for when entering a bg? |
08:06.20 | [Liquidor] | ...and leaving one |
08:07.55 | sylvanaar | [Liquidor]: ? |
08:07.59 | [Liquidor] | Yes? |
08:08.13 | ckknight | it will technically use memory, just by the nature of WoW |
08:08.38 | [Liquidor] | I'm going to create a small addon for registering the honor and rep I get in the Battlegrounds |
08:08.48 | Funkeh` | i see |
08:08.51 | [Liquidor] | And record them each BG to make statistics |
08:09.10 | Funkeh` | another one was, if you have someone one your ignore list, do you still recieve sync messages from them? ;p |
08:09.41 | [Liquidor] | Don't think so. Everything having arg2 = your ignored buddy is a nono I guess |
08:09.54 | Funkeh` | liquidor you can use bable and do a zone check afaik |
08:10.01 | ckknight | [Liquidor], use GloryLib. |
08:10.07 | ckknight | it already does all that. |
08:10.13 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
08:10.18 | [Liquidor] | I'll look at it |
08:10.23 | [Liquidor] | url to the svn? |
08:10.23 | ckknight | Glory-2.0 |
08:10.36 | ckknight | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ |
08:10.47 | Fisker | ok that's just lame |
08:10.59 | Fisker | they upped the exp requirements even more in TBC :I |
08:11.06 | Funkeh` | ;p |
08:11.08 | sylvanaar | Funkeh`: any addon that listens to the addon_message event will get its handler run for every addon message - even if its not its own |
08:11.32 | Funkeh` | so its multiplied by the amount of addons that listen? |
08:11.57 | sylvanaar | yes |
08:12.00 | [Liquidor] | Fisker: ppl leveled way to fast |
08:12.05 | [Liquidor] | levelled* |
08:12.22 | Fisker | that's because the exp rate is throttled during the test |
08:12.32 | [Liquidor] | Oh btw you Eng. folks, when do you use 'to' or 'too' ? I've never found out really and it bothers me sometimes :-/ |
08:12.33 | Funkeh` | yes but not everyone has the time to spend 24/7 for a week leveling ;p |
08:12.44 | Fisker | and it wasn't way too fast |
08:13.07 | Fisker | to the batmobile! |
08:13.14 | ckknight | [Liquidor], it's too |
08:13.16 | ckknight | too => also |
08:13.18 | Fisker | Don't abandon me too? |
08:13.21 | Fisker | ^^ |
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08:14.28 | Funkeh` | 'to do something' 'take me with you too' ;p |
08:14.31 | [Liquidor] | (to ==to a destination) != (too != (to == to a destination)) eh? |
08:14.49 | Fisker | something like that |
08:15.29 | [Liquidor] | Uhm it looks wrong |
08:15.45 | Kalamadi | I like apples; I like apples, too. |
08:15.53 | [Liquidor] | (true) != (false != (true)) |
08:15.54 | Kalamadi | Rather, I like bananas, too. |
08:15.56 | Funkeh` | nn |
08:16.08 | [Liquidor] | Is this true or false? (true) != (false != (true)) |
08:16.14 | pastamancer | well now you're just comparing apples and bananas! |
08:16.15 | Kalamadi | She too likes fruits. |
08:16.34 | sylvanaar | for some reason i felt like writing xslt today.. i made a transform for this http://ace.pastey.net/2067 |
08:17.10 | [Liquidor] | Uhm "Way to much" or "Way too much".... "To much of that" or "Too much of that" ? |
08:17.24 | ckknight | [Liquidor], that's false |
08:17.29 | pastamancer | too in both cases |
08:17.30 | ckknight | too much of that. |
08:17.34 | [Liquidor] | ye it's false aight? thought so |
08:17.40 | ckknight | too when dealing with sizes |
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08:17.52 | sylvanaar | which turns it into http://ace.pastey.net/2068 |
08:17.55 | Kalamadi | She said it was too big. |
08:18.01 | Fisker | omg almost 1 million exp for 68 |
08:18.02 | Kalamadi | Too = also, in excess |
08:18.30 | Fisker | this is going to be so retarded without throttled exp |
08:18.53 | [Liquidor] | 1 million exp from 1 to 68 or 67 to 68 ???? |
08:19.36 | [Liquidor] | Mus tbe 67 - 68 since I need 200.000 for 57-58 |
08:19.41 | [Liquidor] | That's sick :> |
08:19.53 | pastamancer | [Liquidor]: http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/to.html |
08:20.19 | pastamancer | the rest of the site is pretty handy too |
08:20.25 | sylvanaar | complete with xml=schema for aceoptions |
08:20.38 | [Liquidor] | Thank you pastamancer |
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08:21.41 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: you must be a masochist |
08:21.48 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r15899 10Quixote/ (. Quixote-1.0/ Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua Quixote.toc): |
08:21.48 | CIA-17 | Quixote: |
08:21.48 | CIA-17 | - Initial import. |
08:21.48 | CIA-17 | - Quixote is a library that stands between the blizzard questlog functions and an addon. API isn't fixed yet. |
08:22.01 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: cant you tell that yet |
08:22.47 | pastamancer | now all you need is a xlst to generate documentation from the menu definition! :) |
08:23.10 | pastamancer | s/(l)(s)/$2$2/ |
08:23.21 | ckknight | Kemayo, interesting idea |
08:23.26 | pastamancer | oh, is purl not here? |
08:23.41 | ckknight | pastamancer, you can't do complex regexes. |
08:23.44 | ckknight | ~2+2 |
08:23.45 | purl | 4 |
08:23.46 | sylvanaar | thats easy if you define the menu in xml |
08:23.48 | ckknight | purl's here. |
08:23.52 | pastamancer | aww |
08:24.33 | pastamancer | is s/// just direct-string replacement or can it handle non-capturing patterns? |
08:24.48 | sylvanaar | which is super=easy using xml-spy |
08:25.16 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r15900 10Quixote/ (. Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua): Quixote: Set externals and keywords. |
08:25.34 | [Liquidor] | But ckknight :( |
08:26.06 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: for extra fun, you could write some lua which would convert an existing AceOptions table to xml so that it could be attacked with xslt |
08:26.33 | pastamancer | :) |
08:27.13 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r15901 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (. FuBar_QuestsFu.toc QuestsFu.lua lib/): FuBar_QuestsFu: Update to use Quixote (new library for quest handling). |
08:28.06 | Kemayo | ckknight: It seemed worth doing. It's basically just ripping the quest-log scanning stuff out of QuestsFu so other people can use it if they want to, after all. |
08:29.08 | ckknight | :-) |
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08:29.35 | Kemayo | Not that there's a huge market for quest-log things. But... :) |
08:29.43 | ckknight | modularization ftw. |
08:30.00 | ckknight | that's why I made Tourist and Jostle and all that |
08:30.02 | pastamancer | I agree |
08:31.37 | Kemayo | Next step: add in fancy addon-channels stuff for more data sharing with others who're using an addon that uses the library. |
08:33.48 | ckknight | I think I know what we need, Kemayo |
08:33.55 | ckknight | an Ace2 version of PartyQuests |
08:34.25 | ckknight | hehe |
08:36.00 | [Liquidor] | Possible to do .getn on subtables aight? |
08:36.43 | ckknight | tables are tables. |
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08:36.55 | Fisker | ckknight you got the newest beta ? |
08:38.00 | Kemayo | Pfft, like I have time to group with anyone. :-P |
08:38.14 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: i left out the AceLocale in my pastey http://ace.pastey.net/2069 |
08:39.23 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: your translation is missing an end :p |
08:39.35 | sylvanaar | Kemayo: make it a module for Interview |
08:39.58 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: end |
08:40.15 | ckknight | yes, Fisker |
08:40.57 | Fisker | do you have a horde in orgrimmar? |
08:41.10 | Kemayo | sylvanaar: Where is this Interview of which you speak? |
08:41.53 | sylvanaar | Kemayo: in the svn, branches/Inteview/dev |
08:42.16 | Kemayo | Ah, branches... |
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08:43.21 | Fisker | for some reason all terrain in orgrimmar is gone |
08:43.34 | Kemayo | Fisker: Sounds like an improvement... |
08:43.42 | Fisker | it isn't |
08:43.52 | Kemayo | Easier to find your way around, at least. :) |
08:44.21 | Fisker | isn't that either :D |
08:44.33 | Fisker | I have a FPS at 1 |
08:45.18 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: actually, what you need now is soem C# or some other app to let you build your menu and then save it as xml |
08:45.57 | pastamancer | sylvanaar: please, think of the mac users! |
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08:47.32 | ckknight | Fisker, watching Nip/Tuck :-P |
08:47.45 | pastamancer | honestly though, most of the AceOptions menu in Grid is programmatically generated. I have no idea how useful an AceOptions table generator would be except that it would keep you out of trouble for a bit :p |
08:48.15 | pastamancer | do most addons have a relatively static options table? |
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08:48.46 | Kemayo | Most do, I think. |
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08:49.04 | sylvanaar | And theres lots of boilerplate |
08:50.40 | sylvanaar | oh, i know - make the UI in LUA |
08:50.48 | pastamancer | haha |
08:51.17 | sylvanaar | haha |
08:51.28 | pastamancer | is there a tk library for lua? |
08:51.43 | pastamancer | or were you thinking of doing it in-game? |
08:52.24 | sylvanaar | wherever |
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08:53.15 | sylvanaar | buildable ingame dewdrop menus then write out saved variables.. meh |
08:53.55 | pastamancer | too easy :p |
08:54.31 | pastamancer | it needs more... enterprise-y-ness |
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08:56.02 | sylvanaar | well, it could let you hook up the handler routines in game, or generate stubs for you later |
08:57.40 | pastamancer | actually, an in-game dewdrop editor with live or semi-live preview would probably be pretty handy, especially if it dumped the code into some kind of editbox that could be copied from rather than having to dig through the savedvariables |
08:58.22 | sylvanaar | complete with wiki friendly code comments or a wiki xslt |
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09:00.07 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: wanna take a crack at a modifyable dewdrop menu? |
09:00.34 | pastamancer | modifyable dewdrop has been done, see the Status -> Auras menu in Grid |
09:01.17 | sylvanaar | I mean where you can set the text, type and whatever |
09:02.12 | pastamancer | oh |
09:02.28 | pastamancer | maybe once Grid settles down |
09:02.35 | sylvanaar | add text.., add range.. add group.. |
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09:03.09 | pastamancer | I've honestly been trying to come up with ideas so outrageous that you'd cry "stop!" |
09:03.12 | pastamancer | :p |
09:03.26 | sylvanaar | really |
09:03.38 | pastamancer | well, I was serious about an in-game dewdrop editor being handy |
09:03.56 | sylvanaar | thats what i was talking about |
09:04.29 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15902 10Lern2Spell/: Lern2Spell - Removed externals from root folder |
09:04.48 | pastamancer | personally, I'd get more use out of a lua version of JavaDoc, and I already have projects planned for after Grid |
09:05.18 | sylvanaar | doesnt it already exist |
09:05.32 | pastamancer | it might, I haven't found it though |
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09:05.42 | sylvanaar | it was talked about last night |
09:05.48 | [FH]Birdemani | ckk - i updated and the X to close the map is still floating |
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09:06.03 | pastamancer | oh, google knows where it is |
09:06.06 | ckknight | floating? |
09:06.09 | [FH]Birdemani | yea |
09:06.14 | [FH]Birdemani | i have my scaling at 75 |
09:06.16 | ckknight | screenshot? |
09:06.20 | [FH]Birdemani | sec |
09:07.06 | Tekkub | so this is gonna sound stupid but... |
09:07.31 | Tekkub | anyone know a good service where I can upload my music and stream it on demand elsewhere? |
09:07.50 | Tekkub | NOT a music store that'll let me stream their partial library in their shitty software |
09:09.48 | [FH]Birdemani | <PROTECTED> |
09:09.51 | [FH]Birdemani | there ya go ckk |
09:10.18 | sylvanaar | how do you seach the chat buffer in mirc |
09:11.02 | ckknight | weird |
09:11.05 | ckknight | I don't use oSkin |
09:11.11 | ckknight | does it happen without oSkin? |
09:11.14 | [FH]Birdemani | i use oskin and locationfu |
09:11.19 | [FH]Birdemani | let me turn off oskin |
09:12.17 | [FH]Birdemani | yea, its oskin |
09:13.01 | ckknight | oSkin should be fixed, then |
09:13.15 | sylvanaar | http://akx.ath.cx/API.html |
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09:15.54 | purl | cairenn <n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 1h 53m 53s ago, saying: 'heh'. |
09:15.54 | Sole | hai2u |
09:15.55 | Sole | ~seen Cairenn|afk |
09:15.57 | purl | cairenn|afk is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1h 35m 10s, last said: 'night guys'. |
09:16.07 | Sole | ahh poop |
09:19.59 | Sole | so I just got a BC beta key |
09:20.00 | Sole | yay for me |
09:20.03 | Sole | bout time O_O |
09:20.25 | [FH]Birdemani | how did you get it? |
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09:20.42 | snurre- | haxxed |
09:20.43 | cncfanatics | yo all |
09:20.48 | snurre- | moo |
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09:21.29 | Sole | I got an addon author's key from ui.worldofwar.net |
09:21.43 | cncfanatics | :o gz :) |
09:21.57 | Sole | well I got an email from em saying I got one, still waiting for blizz email with the actuall key >_< |
09:22.14 | Sole | already installing BC...leaked torrent ftw |
09:23.03 | cncfanatics | u don't need it leaked, everyone can dl at beta.worldofwarcraft.com :p |
09:23.17 | Sole | well I dl it about 3 weeks ago |
09:23.28 | [Liquidor] | Oh I know what I'm gonna create now ckknight; a BGLog \o/ |
09:23.36 | Fisker | ok even from a fresh install i got no terrain in orgrimmar :/ |
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09:25.04 | Gamefaq|afk | moins |
09:26.42 | Sole | lol my silly puppy keeps barking and she sounds like a squeeky child's toy |
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09:53.47 | CIA-17 | 03laric * r15903 10!!!Libs/ (. !!!Libs.toc): |
09:53.47 | CIA-17 | !!!Libs: |
09:53.48 | CIA-17 | - Added Quixote-1.0 |
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09:57.54 | [Liquidor] | Okay then how come you say that having Ace2 lib in more than 1 addon won't affect the memory usage as if there was only 1? |
09:58.14 | cncfanatics | not after the first garbage collect |
09:58.22 | nymbia | because the new one overwrites the references to the old, and the old gets garbage collected |
09:59.14 | MoonWolf | [Liquidor], read this http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns. |
09:59.16 | nymbia | technically there IS extra memory usage, but only at load time. after that, all but the newest one are gone and forgotten |
09:59.20 | [Liquidor] | Okay so setting the same variable twice with 2 diff. values won't take twice as much memory? |
09:59.51 | ckknight | touchy subject |
09:59.52 | nymbia | that depends ;) |
10:00.06 | MoonWolf | [Liquidor], for the sake of this argument yes |
10:00.07 | ckknight | basically, after collectgarbage(), it takes only the space of the newest |
10:00.24 | ckknight | and collectgarbage() is called after all addons are loaded anyway |
10:00.28 | [Liquidor] | Just asking cause I've always wondered |
10:00.59 | MoonWolf | and possibly at some page during load |
10:01.14 | MoonWolf | s/page/place/ |
10:01.16 | [Liquidor] | What about LoadOnDemand, any way to use that to reduce some usage? |
10:01.21 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r15904 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Add missing return values to IsQuestItem. |
10:01.39 | nymbia | what's quixote? |
10:01.44 | ckknight | [Liquidor], for standalone libs, that's already done |
10:01.47 | ckknight | nymbia, quest lib |
10:01.51 | [Liquidor] | I mean, I'm going to make a log for my battlegrounds but it shouldn't start logging etc before a visit to a BG has been in order |
10:02.31 | MoonWolf | most authors that will make their addons LoD where applicable. |
10:02.59 | nymbia | as far as memory usage by the code itself goes, yes LoD will help. |
10:03.21 | [Liquidor] | Okay great |
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10:03.55 | [Liquidor] | So I can create a lib to store data as well and then have a subaddon with LoD logging bgs aight? |
10:04.19 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15905 10Quixote/ (Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua Quixote.toc): Quixote: Set LoD, X-AceLibrary and fix dependency checking. |
10:05.54 | nymbia | yeah liquidor |
10:09.41 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07Sylvanaar * r15906 10Ace2/ (. ace-options.xsd sample-options.xml tablegen.xslt): The xml-schema for AceOptions, and an xslt to generate the lua code from the xml representation defined in the schema |
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10:21.59 | Toadkiller | Say, does anyone have any idea how I can make the bogus lower case Autobar disapear from the files section? |
10:23.29 | vhaarr | Poke cladhaire. |
10:25.06 | sylvanaar | pastamancer: still around? |
10:26.22 | [Liquidor] | Uhm possible to uncomment a line? |
10:26.38 | [Liquidor] | or make only some part of a line commented? |
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10:29.14 | Toadkiller | "--" for rest of line & "[[" + "]]" for arbitrary length comment? |
10:30.02 | Kalamadi | --[[ comment ]] |
10:30.09 | Kalamadi | -- comment |
10:30.40 | [Liquidor] | --[[ comment ]] code ? |
10:30.55 | Kalamadi | Correct. |
10:31.01 | [Liquidor] | Super |
10:33.52 | omega_ | Quixote-1.0\Quixote1-0.lua:246: attempt to index dfield 'mobs' (a nil value) |
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10:35.29 | [Liquidor] | AlteracValley/Queue.nr:Unknown: attempt to access 'Alterac Valley' (impossible) |
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10:40.01 | yacoob | Ooooh, Grid is out? |
10:40.05 | Stormy2 | whois pastamancer |
10:40.49 | Stormy2 | yep, just tried it out, configuration is a bit obscure, but seem to work |
10:41.34 | yacoob | *bounce*bounce* |
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10:41.40 | grzesieq | just noticed that too |
10:41.49 | grzesieq | <PROTECTED> |
10:41.57 | yacoob | *bounce*bounce*bounce* |
10:42.02 | yacoob | ...wait, I haven't tested it yet. |
10:42.25 | Kalamadi | It's freaking awesome, let me tell you. |
10:42.43 | yacoob | *bounce*? |
10:43.14 | yacoob | wai! wai! |
10:43.49 | nevcairiel | morning |
10:46.25 | Sole | even though Im a rogue, I gotta say Grid looks awesome |
10:48.02 | yacoob | I'll test it as a replacement for my current raidframes :) |
10:48.14 | yacoob | speaking of which, will praid work in TBC, or does it have to be rewritten? |
10:50.16 | Kalamadi | It'll work. |
10:50.26 | Kalamadi | I was writted for TBC, then backported to 1.12 |
10:50.33 | Kalamadi | s/writted/written/ |
10:51.00 | Kalamadi | Sod it, I'm tired |
10:51.23 | vhaarr | Kalamadi: Note that he said praid. |
10:51.40 | Kalamadi | Yes. |
10:51.57 | vhaarr | PerfectRaid was not written for TBC and then backported for 1.12. |
10:52.04 | vhaarr | Like you said. |
10:53.06 | nevcairiel | i dont know any addon which would qualify for that |
10:53.49 | vhaarr | Grid, AFAIK. |
10:54.20 | grzesieq | I desperately need a new laptop :( |
10:54.30 | Kalamadi | You could sell organs. |
10:54.55 | grzesieq | I almost have enough money for the new MBP. |
10:55.28 | yacoob | well, organs. Sperm :) |
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11:02.05 | Neriak_ | hi |
11:02.41 | Sole | hai |
11:03.56 | Kalamadi | Heil! |
11:04.49 | Kalamadi | I am 1 meg from completing a 1.49 gig download. Sadness. |
11:05.46 | Sole | >_< |
11:06.12 | CIA-17 | 03cncfanatics * r15908 10FlexBar2/ (FlexBar2_Controller.lua FlexBar2_View.lua): (log message trimmed) |
11:06.12 | CIA-17 | FlexBar2: |
11:06.12 | CIA-17 | FlexBar2_Controller.lua: |
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11:11.42 | Silviu- | Anyone with 100% finished download on enGB patch for BC can start and seed for a while ? ;) |
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11:11.57 | nevcairiel | _still_ the same problem? |
11:12.11 | Silviu- | yes 99% ... from last night |
11:12.20 | Silviu- | I begin to go mad :> |
11:12.39 | cncfanatics | we can't seed it :( |
11:12.53 | cncfanatics | wish I cld, but if I try to seed the dl'er thinks I got 4% of the file |
11:13.18 | Silviu- | Hmm :( |
11:13.30 | Silviu- | 354MB / 356 |
11:13.42 | Silviu- | 2 MB bliz ... c`mon give me :) |
11:13.42 | cncfanatics | ye, u miss 2 megs at 4% of the file :p |
11:13.54 | cncfanatics | and the blizz seed refuses to upload at all |
11:14.28 | Silviu- | And i tryed to start the patch but ofc it does not work :) |
11:17.09 | Silviu- | But nobody actually finished it ? |
11:18.14 | cncfanatics | u can't finish it |
11:20.07 | nevcairiel | somehow the torrent is messed up |
11:20.19 | Royal | Is there an event called for switching a FuBar plugin to minimap (toggling 'Attach to minimap')? |
11:20.43 | Royal | Since I wanna use different icons for FuBar attached and minimap attached |
11:22.11 | nevcairiel | Silviu- the .torrent for the patch i have works fine, it has 15 full copies of the patch, i *think* blizzard updated their patcher at some point with a working torrent |
11:22.15 | nevcairiel | guess you need to try again |
11:22.31 | Silviu- | redownload ? |
11:22.44 | Silviu- | Only the downloder ? |
11:22.46 | Silviu- | Or full file |
11:23.05 | nevcairiel | at least the downloader, and see what it says about your incremental file |
11:23.13 | Silviu- | Ok i try |
11:23.56 | Silviu- | Hmm is bigger in size |
11:24.09 | nevcairiel | wtf, my /var/lib is 43Gig |
11:24.14 | nevcairiel | what now oO |
11:24.53 | nevcairiel | oh lol, 34G apache logs :D |
11:25.39 | Neronix | ^^ |
11:25.42 | Kalamadi | Haha, slick. |
11:25.53 | Kala|Sleep | Since I have nothing else to do. |
11:27.40 | Sole | heh so I just finished dling the latest BC patch, but prob wont get my key til the next few working days :( |
11:28.02 | Silviu- | Sole i hate u, US ? |
11:28.05 | Sole | yar |
11:28.27 | Sole | us client torrents are all like 170kb/s minimum |
11:28.42 | cncfanatics | my max was 100kb/s |
11:28.52 | cncfanatics | EU FTW ! |
11:28.57 | Neronix | Does TBC need a whole new WoW installation? (6GB + the 2GB of content it has) |
11:29.04 | Neronix | or just 2GB? |
11:29.11 | Sole | i just downloaded 3 or 4 patches |
11:29.15 | Sole | I think new installation |
11:29.22 | Silviu- | At eu is one big patch 356 MB |
11:29.24 | Neronix | gah, need to resize my wow partition |
11:29.28 | Silviu- | And yes new instalation |
11:29.34 | Sole | yea new install |
11:29.50 | Sole | I had to dl a 276mb patch |
11:30.10 | Sole | then a 20mb, 30mb and 10mb or something along those lines |
11:30.33 | yacoob | *blink* apache logs in /var/lib? What kind of sick setup is that? |
11:30.50 | nevcairiel | dunno |
11:31.08 | nevcairiel | seem to be old logs, too |
11:32.23 | [Wobin] | wow |
11:32.44 | [Wobin] | I can't believe ui.wow has dependancy dropdown selections in the ui edit page that list every single addon in the system |
11:33.46 | haste | sounds like hassle to upload add ons |
11:34.00 | haste | *scroll* *scroll* *scroll* /wrists |
11:35.09 | [Wobin] | oh the dropdowns are compact |
11:35.16 | [Wobin] | it just takes aaaaages to populate them all |
11:38.43 | haste | would be better to use AJAX, and make it search while creating the dropdown then |
11:38.47 | nevcairiel | typing in the addon name, and getting a choice of addons which would match your dep name would be kinda cooler |
11:38.50 | nevcairiel | yeah :) |
11:38.58 | haste | like on CTProfiles |
11:39.01 | Mikma | *yawn* |
11:39.14 | haste | It's a handy system for populating large drop-downs |
11:40.55 | nevcairiel | a friend of mine wanted a more configurable actionbar addon, but still with good performance .. basicly full configuration for the buttons, but no funky stuff, and i had to admit, i dont know any except DAB which allow FULL control over the buttons, can anyone fill in my blank there ? :) |
11:40.55 | yacoob | Ajax! |
11:41.04 | yacoob | but the dropdown must have round corners :D |
11:41.31 | Mikma | nevcairiel: dab and maybe(?) flexbar2 .. |
11:41.48 | nevcairiel | so i was thinking about doing my own for BC |
11:41.49 | nevcairiel | :) |
11:41.54 | [Wobin] | I <3 AJAX |
11:42.09 | [Wobin] | as long as you don't have to worry about cross browser compat |
11:42.22 | cncfanatics | flexbar nevcairiel :p |
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11:42.35 | cncfanatics | and flexbar2 when its out for TBC, which will have reasonable mem usage |
11:42.38 | nevcairiel | flexbar1 is .. well you know :) |
11:42.46 | cncfanatics | fb1 is a memory eater |
11:42.49 | cncfanatics | fb2 ain't :p |
11:43.05 | Mikma | fuxbar lolo! |
11:43.12 | cncfanatics | 1700kb mem usage & 0.2 fps reducement atm |
11:43.27 | Varak | long question inc:... |
11:43.29 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/modscreen-5681-11822-1-Array%5Bltitle%5D.html |
11:43.34 | Mikma | coder ui! loooool |
11:43.34 | Varak | <PROTECTED> |
11:43.36 | Varak | ...im making myself at least a bit clear :) |
11:43.37 | Varak | Thing is that I would like to apply this look to entire SCT (not just SCTD) and I cant find any option for it. Any ideas how to do this? |
11:45.06 | Varak | well that killed the conversation... :D |
11:45.13 | Mikma | Varak: MSBT |
11:45.18 | Mikma | ~MSBT |
11:45.25 | purl | rumour has it, msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
11:45.25 | nevcairiel | yay my second addon on WoWI |
11:45.41 | Mikma | nevcairiel: which one? :) |
11:45.55 | haste | I also use MSBT! |
11:45.56 | Sole | gnite |
11:45.58 | nevcairiel | HunterBars |
11:45.59 | nevcairiel | :D |
11:46.01 | Sole | i use neither! |
11:46.03 | Mikma | mmkay! |
11:46.09 | Sole | too much screen clutter for me |
11:46.11 | Sole | i like it clean |
11:46.19 | Varak | thanks ill chces that out |
11:47.16 | Varak | how does MSBT stand in mem usage and FPS eating pelase? |
11:47.27 | haste | I tried playing on C'Thun with the default UI yesterday |
11:47.34 | Mikma | Varak: yes |
11:47.35 | haste | and no damage text at all |
11:47.56 | haste | wasn't sure if I was doing anything at all |
11:48.01 | nevcairiel | lol |
11:48.14 | haste | I didn't play my char either |
11:49.09 | CIA-17 | 03nymbia * r15909 10Manufac/Manufac.lua: |
11:49.09 | CIA-17 | Manufac: |
11:49.09 | CIA-17 | - Major code optimization, much faster when clicking items deep in menus. |
11:49.15 | Mikma | haste: i played with my friends rogue some time ago |
11:49.25 | Mikma | i was with onyxia with it and nefa |
11:49.35 | Mikma | holy crap i hate rogues :D |
11:49.43 | Mikma | 1.4k crits all the time |
11:49.50 | Mikma | like every second hit was 1.4k + |
11:49.58 | haste | combat dagger + PvE = win |
11:50.03 | Mikma | aye |
11:50.08 | Mikma | that's what he uses |
11:50.18 | nymbia | if anyone has auctioneer, i'd appreciate if you tested that new version of manufac with it.. i rewrote everything and don't really wanna check auctioneer right now ;) |
11:50.20 | nevcairiel | does cthun have a "back" ? |
11:50.26 | haste | yes |
11:50.29 | [Wobin] | I just got some nice daggers and respecced |
11:50.46 | [Wobin] | I'll have to see what it's like |
11:51.13 | haste | combat dagger is shit to farm with tho |
11:51.15 | Mikma | [Wobin]: it's like 1400 700 1400 700 2400 1400 700 |
11:51.28 | [Wobin] | haste: yeah? |
11:51.35 | haste | Mikma: you do know that 70% of the damage he does is white damage :p ? |
11:51.43 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5648-1-stinkyqueue.html |
11:51.54 | Mikma | haste: yes and that is why i wanted to diss his items :D |
11:51.56 | haste | [Wobin]: combat dagger is only good for sustained dps in end-game PvE |
11:52.04 | [Wobin] | I have a 24.55% chance to crit |
11:52.08 | [Wobin] | that's crazytalk |
11:52.46 | haste | I have 25.54% |
11:52.57 | haste | and 20% to hit + 2% from Hand of Justice |
11:53.10 | [Wobin] | hm, I don't know what my to hit is |
11:53.11 | haste | but I'm combat swords |
11:53.32 | [Wobin] | I wish they'd put those stats on the character page |
11:53.39 | haste | they are in TBC tho' |
11:53.43 | [Wobin] | I was combat swords |
11:53.51 | [Wobin] | but I had like.. a Zulian Slicer and dalrends |
11:54.11 | [Wobin] | now I have Fang of the faceless and the Quiraji sacrificial dagger |
11:54.22 | nevcairiel | that sounds better :) |
11:54.39 | [Wobin] | hehe =) |
11:54.50 | [Wobin] | Although, if I get the sand polished mace.... |
11:54.54 | Mikma | From: dianeewab@kbct.bems.boeing.com |
11:54.54 | Mikma | Subject: know this is private |
11:55.06 | haste | spam :D |
11:55.10 | Mikma | and alot of pictures of viagra |
11:55.15 | haste | [Wobin]: well, get 4% hit at least |
11:55.20 | haste | then you don't miss on specials |
11:55.26 | haste | 24%, and you don't miss on the off-hand |
11:55.41 | [Wobin] | oh I probably have that |
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11:56.21 | [Wobin] | I have about 6% |
11:56.27 | [Wobin] | extra |
11:56.42 | [Wobin] | well. from all the blooddrenched stuff |
11:56.56 | [Wobin] | and blademaster leggings |
11:56.58 | nevcairiel | does agi give you hit? |
11:57.01 | [Wobin] | which is -really- good for that... |
11:57.08 | [Wobin] | (that level item) |
11:57.24 | [Wobin] | +1% to hit and crit and +2% dodge |
11:57.36 | nevcairiel | i need new pants for my feral equip, i only have the devilsaur thingy |
11:57.48 | [Wobin] | nevcairiel: I can never recall how stats affect me |
11:58.12 | haste | it doesn't give hit afaik |
11:58.45 | [Wobin] | dex goes towards AP, doesn't it? |
11:58.50 | [Wobin] | er agi |
11:58.55 | nevcairiel | yeah, and crit |
11:58.58 | [Wobin] | where did I get dex from? =P |
11:59.07 | nevcairiel | d2 ? :p |
11:59.11 | [Wobin] | probably =) |
11:59.11 | haste | everquest? |
11:59.16 | [Wobin] | never played it |
11:59.24 | neriak | cool I got a BC beta :) *chhers* |
11:59.26 | [Wobin] | WoW was my first MMORPG |
11:59.40 | nevcairiel | hooow? |
11:59.44 | [Wobin] | neriak: sob |
11:59.49 | [Wobin] | still waiting for my key to be sent |
11:59.50 | haste | you get AP, armor, dodge and crit from agi |
12:00.06 | neriak | :P only selected by ui.worldofwar.net - mail's sent to blizzard |
12:00.20 | [Wobin] | But if you have an addon on Wowi, you can get a key |
12:00.26 | [Wobin] | neriak: Me too =) |
12:00.32 | neriak | eye know ;) |
12:00.32 | nevcairiel | so in that definition, i have a key as well |
12:00.35 | [Wobin] | neriak: Plus the one from Wowi |
12:00.39 | nevcairiel | only that it will arrive next week :( |
12:00.41 | [Wobin] | <.< |
12:00.42 | [Wobin] | >.> |
12:00.57 | [Wobin] | Damnit, Blizzard still hasn't sent the key |
12:01.00 | neriak | i also signed up on the WoWI beta |
12:01.07 | [Wobin] | from the ui.wow contest |
12:01.23 | neriak | but that was before i've seen the beta giveaway form uiwow |
12:01.25 | haste | compiling libqt4 takes ages :( |
12:01.27 | [Wobin] | yeah |
12:01.54 | neriak | well i'm patient anyway .. comes time, comes key |
12:02.15 | [Wobin] | *whine* |
12:02.18 | neriak | hrhr |
12:03.28 | nevcairiel | want some cheese with that ? :) |
12:04.41 | haste | http://youtube.com/watch?v=yQqtKsbkQQE :D |
12:05.15 | CIA-17 | 03cncfanatics * r15910 10FlexBar2/ (FlexBar2.lua FlexBar2_Controller.lua FlexBar2_View.lua): (log message trimmed) |
12:05.15 | CIA-17 | FlexBar2: |
12:05.15 | CIA-17 | FlexBar2_View.lua |
12:05.15 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
12:05.16 | CIA-17 | FlexBar2_Controller.lua |
12:05.17 | CIA-17 | Renamed FB2_ActionInRangeStateChanged to FB2_ActionIsUsableStateChanged, it now |
12:05.19 | CIA-17 | triggers whenever a spell becomes usable/unusable, be it for range, mana, or |
12:06.31 | nymbia | see ya guys :) |
12:06.42 | nevcairiel | lol haste, first time porn user, heh |
12:07.15 | haste | NHK is great :D |
12:08.49 | [Liquidor] | heh fun anime :> |
12:13.59 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r15911 10!!!Libs/!!!Libs.toc: !!!Libs: Removed Quixote from .toc to eliminate the error popping up in load. Kemayo test your addons before adding them in ;) |
12:15.08 | vhaarr | Mikma: Kemayo didn't add it to !!!Libs. |
12:15.22 | Mikma | well it's still bugged hah |
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12:17.11 | Mikma | Laric: well same goes for you. test the addons before adding them in |
12:17.48 | nevcairiel | heh |
12:21.10 | vhaarr | Anyone know if the exclamation mark used for quests is available as a icon? |
12:21.46 | [Wobin] | vhaarr: look for the texture used in the beginning hints to new players |
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12:21.53 | vhaarr | aah |
12:21.56 | vhaarr | thanks wobin |
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12:33.09 | yacoob | First feat req for grid: make it autoscale the border on raid size change |
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12:34.59 | Mikma | nevcairiel: Bartender3 |
12:35.12 | nevcairiel | Mikma: ? |
12:35.22 | Mikma | nevcairiel: for BC. i made my mind and it's BT3 |
12:35.27 | nevcairiel | ah. |
12:35.36 | nevcairiel | I was wondering .. |
12:35.41 | nevcairiel | with all the secure templates |
12:35.42 | Mikma | yes? |
12:35.52 | nevcairiel | i dont know if its possible to reuse the buttons like we do now |
12:36.15 | nevcairiel | because they are secured now |
12:36.24 | haarm | nevcairiel, i can test some things if you want, i have access to a friend of a friends account for beta |
12:36.33 | Mikma | so you're saying we need to create new buttons to use? |
12:36.44 | nevcairiel | haarm: thx but nvm, will get beta access next week |
12:36.50 | haarm | ok :) |
12:36.59 | Mikma | nevcairiel: let's go into same server aye? |
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12:37.15 | nevcairiel | i wanted to ask the other EU guys where they hang around |
12:37.18 | Mikma | Tempest Keep or so |
12:37.25 | Mikma | ckknight is hanging out there |
12:37.29 | haarm | I'm on Bloodmyst |
12:37.39 | haarm | isn't Tempest keep the one where everyone starts from lvl 1 ? |
12:37.53 | Mikma | hmm don't know |
12:37.56 | nevcairiel | you can copy your chars as well |
12:38.08 | nevcairiel | to tempest keep, i mean |
12:38.09 | nevcairiel | :) |
12:38.15 | haarm | PvE ? |
12:38.18 | Angeris | tempest keep is the only english pve |
12:38.22 | haarm | ah yea |
12:38.23 | Mikma | cool |
12:38.27 | Mikma | Tempest Keep that is then :D |
12:38.36 | haarm | I knew I chose Bloodmyst for a reason :) |
12:38.37 | nevcairiel | not being killed while standing around coding, yay |
12:38.38 | nevcairiel | :D |
12:38.45 | Mikma | hehe |
12:38.59 | nevcairiel | wonder what happens if i copy my char now .. |
12:39.03 | nevcairiel | the option is there ... |
12:39.06 | nevcairiel | no, i wont :) |
12:39.17 | Mikma | i was about to try it too but didn't wan't to until i get my key |
12:39.42 | haarm | nev, when beta first came out I copied my char, (still no key for this account), and now my number of copies has gone back up to 4... so who knows |
12:39.44 | vhaarr | We're at least 4 on Tempest Keep. |
12:40.14 | nevcairiel | do we have enough for some instance action ? :P |
12:40.16 | Angeris | you can copy your char now without a problem afaik |
12:40.22 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: No :) |
12:40.29 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: Only me and Ammo are >60. |
12:40.33 | nevcairiel | heh |
12:40.43 | Mikma | let's see then |
12:40.45 | Mikma | i'll copy my char |
12:40.49 | vhaarr | There's also Miles, ag and ckk. |
12:40.57 | haarm | They should re-enable copying premades, but make the premades lvl 60 with tier2 or something |
12:41.27 | Angeris | my name is Theodor on tempest keep,if anyone needs any help or anything |
12:41.44 | nevcairiel | i do have to rename my char, or? |
12:42.00 | Angeris | i couldnt use the same name |
12:42.09 | Angeris | first it said name violation |
12:42.23 | Angeris | i tried it anyway and it said its not available |
12:42.28 | Angeris | and i chose another one |
12:42.45 | Mikma | Character Copy Success! |
12:42.45 | haarm | Angeris, it did that with everyone |
12:42.50 | Mikma | so my char is now in tempest keep |
12:43.00 | Mikma | Tricia from Nordrassil (PvE) to Tempest Keep (PvE) |
12:43.19 | haarm | Mikma, it'll probably ask you to rename the first time you log in |
12:43.29 | Mikma | haarm: then it will be Mikma |
12:43.32 | AKX | Xuerian |
12:43.33 | haarm | :D |
12:43.40 | AKX | Xuerian, fsck you and your XLootMaster |
12:43.53 | [Liquidor] | hehe AKX |
12:44.20 | haarm | I have a mod called LootMaster ;x but it's not Ace2, I use it for displaying my guilds dkp in game when they roll for loot |
12:45.30 | neriak | so basically you guys are saying that in beta test I can make a copy of my existings char to test them on the beta servers? |
12:45.41 | haarm | yes neriak |
12:45.44 | Mikma | well now i have to wait for my key :) |
12:45.45 | neriak | weee |
12:45.48 | Angeris | aaaa |
12:45.49 | neriak | that's sweet |
12:45.53 | Angeris | damn,i forgot to tell you |
12:45.58 | Angeris | bring runecloth! |
12:46.01 | haarm | yes |
12:46.03 | haarm | 100-150 |
12:46.10 | Mikma | ... |
12:46.12 | Mikma | thanks :) |
12:46.19 | haarm | you need it to level to 330 First Aid :p |
12:46.24 | Mikma | too late already hehe |
12:46.28 | sbu | AKX: huh? |
12:46.33 | Angeris | im 323/375 and cant find too many runecloth :/ |
12:46.35 | Mikma | well d'oh i'll just transfer my mule there too HAHA |
12:46.39 | nevcairiel | good plan, /me packs runecloth |
12:46.41 | Mikma | i got 3 copies left |
12:46.44 | Angeris | Mikma you can copy your char again :P |
12:46.47 | haarm | yea Mikma wait |
12:46.49 | Angeris | the same char |
12:46.54 | haarm | borrow some money from the guild bank or something |
12:46.58 | Mikma | oh ok then :D |
12:47.00 | haarm | so you have enough for a flying mount too :D |
12:47.04 | nevcairiel | dont you get 5k anyway? |
12:47.07 | Angeris | damn,97.5 mb patch |
12:47.08 | haarm | no? |
12:47.11 | Angeris | no |
12:47.14 | Mikma | good thing that you can copy it again |
12:47.21 | nevcairiel | someone said you get 5k gold when you copy |
12:47.27 | haarm | they lied |
12:47.28 | Angeris | no |
12:47.37 | Angeris | and you cant buy a mount,lvl cap is 67 |
12:47.47 | Mikma | meh |
12:47.48 | nevcairiel | maybe some day you can |
12:48.04 | Mikma | i'll just go now and transfer all the runecloth |
12:48.06 | Angeris | maybe |
12:48.18 | haarm | Mikma, why don't you wait til you have the key |
12:48.26 | haarm | maybe more stuff you want to transfer but forgot about |
12:48.38 | haarm | some other profession levelling stuff |
12:48.40 | Mikma | haarm: i will now, but first i will transfer the runecloths so i don't forget em |
12:48.47 | haarm | lol ok |
12:49.22 | Angeris | if you are an alchemist,bring some dreamfoils too |
12:49.41 | haarm | and some elmental <whatever> |
12:50.01 | haarm | those greater protection pots get you quite a few levels |
12:50.29 | Mikma | heh well i transfered 300+ runecloths. that will do propably |
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12:50.46 | Angeris | you can sell for money ! |
12:50.49 | haarm | and if you're a herbalist, make sure you take every Dreaming Glory you can, they're rare and needed to skill up |
12:51.05 | haarm | (skill up alchemy later) |
12:51.20 | Angeris | hmm,i havent found a dreaming glory |
12:51.24 | Angeris | yet |
12:51.32 | haarm | exactly, but there's pots that need them to skill u0 |
12:51.33 | haarm | up |
12:51.53 | haarm | I got most of mine killing bog lords, then skinning them with herbalism |
12:52.50 | sbu | 'morning |
12:52.51 | sbu | :o |
12:53.34 | haarm | hi |
12:53.45 | Angeris | kek [13:56] <Syltelabb> lol, the 60 BE loladin just passed me with his epic hawkstrider mount |
12:53.59 | Angeris | that guy must have no brainshells left :P |
12:54.14 | Mikma | which one |
12:54.19 | Mikma | the syltelabb or the loladin |
12:54.22 | haarm | think I read about "first level 60 be paladin" like a week ago ;x |
12:54.26 | Angeris | the loladin |
12:54.33 | nevcairiel | lol |
12:54.38 | Angeris | lvl 60 from 1 with epic mount |
12:55.00 | [FH]Birdemani | there was a level 62 be pally a few weeks ago |
12:55.06 | [FH]Birdemani | i believe he is at the cap already |
12:55.16 | [FH]Birdemani | on hte US hellfyre realm |
12:55.20 | Neronix | I might roll a BE loladin |
12:55.24 | Angeris | the thing is where did he find money to buy the epic mount |
12:55.26 | Neronix | just to see what it's like |
12:55.32 | [FH]Birdemani | money is easy |
12:55.34 | Neronix | Last time I played a loladin was 1.8 |
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12:55.58 | Angeris | or he transfered anotehr char with money |
12:55.59 | Neronix | If they actually made the class fun, then I'll be bowled over |
12:56.22 | Rophy | anyone know where to contact Fenlis? |
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12:57.06 | vhaarr | Rophy: He's on IRC often. |
12:57.14 | vhaarr | Since we told him to join :) |
12:57.37 | Rophy | I'm just unlucky to miss him? |
12:57.44 | vhaarr | ~seen fenlis |
12:58.01 | purl | fenlis <n=jungseop@125.190.25.23> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 17h 18s ago, saying: 'Thanks. kergoth..'. |
12:58.02 | haarm | Angeris, copy a char with money, and level one without / |
12:58.02 | haarm | ? |
12:58.35 | Angeris | thats what i thought,after i asked how he found money for epic mount :P |
12:58.35 | Mikma | i will sure in hell make draenei shaman |
12:58.40 | Mikma | me heart shaman |
12:58.48 | Angeris | and they seems to changed the fel reavers in the patch |
12:58.51 | Angeris | to a bear |
12:59.20 | Mikma | so Grim Batol ain't open? :P |
12:59.41 | vhaarr | no |
12:59.55 | Mikma | i wonder will it ever be |
13:00.10 | vhaarr | hope so :/ |
13:00.11 | Gngsk | bet it'll be in a content patch |
13:00.13 | vhaarr | and Uldum |
13:00.23 | Mikma | yeah uldum! |
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13:00.31 | [Wobin] | wow |
13:00.34 | Gngsk | Uldum won't be until after another expansion |
13:00.39 | [Wobin] | Xcode is lousy with nested lists |
13:00.40 | vhaarr | ckknight: you around? |
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13:01.54 | vhaarr | Kind of annoying how they introduce more and more reputation factions. |
13:02.03 | vhaarr | Like the Cenarion Expedition ... |
13:02.26 | vhaarr | I'm already Exalted with Cenarion Hold, those bastards should just have it be the same faction. |
13:02.53 | vhaarr | And Honor Hold could well be Stormwind or something. |
13:03.38 | sbu | mhhh, i read an article about this some weeks ago |
13:03.49 | sbu | (about grinding rep/.../...) |
13:04.10 | Gngsk | some people like it... |
13:04.15 | sbu | and that this is _very_ important for mmorpg because of inflation :/ |
13:04.50 | Mikma | guess what guys!!! and girls |
13:04.56 | Mikma | i'm modofying Bartender2 lol |
13:05.02 | sbu | omg :/ |
13:05.17 | sbu | think its time to move back to blizz actionbras ;p |
13:05.36 | Gngsk | ditto |
13:05.37 | yacoob | actionbras. I like the word. |
13:05.37 | sbu | modifying what exactly? :p |
13:05.42 | sbu | oops :) |
13:06.30 | yacoob | 'Snap open: opens up to 5 action bras, but caster loses 200 hp for each' |
13:06.43 | Angeris | did you check the tier4 sets? |
13:07.06 | sbu | check what? |
13:07.24 | sbu | the looks? yep - more stuff? found no source yet |
13:07.40 | sbu | oh |
13:07.42 | sbu | i see |
13:08.10 | sbu | priest damage set <3 |
13:08.13 | Angeris | stats too |
13:08.17 | Angeris | on worldofraids |
13:08.33 | sbu | yap |
13:09.10 | sbu | ewww |
13:09.17 | sbu | priest dmg set looks like t3? |
13:09.31 | vhaarr | temporarily, obviously |
13:09.42 | haarm | priest damage set? brb :D |
13:09.55 | Angeris | yes it does |
13:10.01 | sbu | mhhh |
13:10.07 | sbu | well stats are not that great |
13:10.09 | Mikma | nevcairiel: so, what do you think, shall be bury BT then for Burning Crusade? |
13:10.13 | Angeris | and the stats on healin set isnt that of an upgrade |
13:10.36 | sbu | chest is 77 +heal, look at robes of guardian saint / t3 |
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13:11.03 | [Wobin] | yay |
13:11.23 | [Wobin] | my guildbank has offered to lend me the entire raidchest worth of cash for the character copy =P |
13:11.29 | haarm | urgh |
13:11.51 | haarm | I think I'll be wearing half my priest random lvl 60 gear at 70 :( |
13:11.58 | sbu | yep |
13:12.27 | haarm | already PvE shadow, and tbh.. why the fuck are they giving us crit? |
13:13.07 | Higdur | since they can say "hey,look, you got a nuker stat!" |
13:13.10 | sbu | mhh i guess its not final then |
13:13.12 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07dev * r15912 10Interview/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Interview: Support base implementations of enable/disable and a table which contains the command->event map |
13:13.21 | Higdur | even though it's irrelevant |
13:13.22 | sbu | cause the stats arent that good |
13:13.25 | sbu | yah? |
13:13.29 | haarm | Higdur, I can already say that with +650 shadow damage :D |
13:13.29 | sbu | why? |
13:13.33 | nevcairiel | Mikma: we could still do a very simple lightweight actionbar addon, but simply with creating new buttons |
13:13.40 | Higdur | haarm: hehe, true |
13:13.57 | sbu | hmmm Mikma: whats the problem w/ BT and TBC? |
13:13.59 | Mikma | nevcairiel: well there's alot of actionbar-addons that do the exactly same thing |
13:14.07 | nevcairiel | there are? |
13:14.15 | Mikma | sbu: what nevcairiel said, the buttons are secure and they can't be reused |
13:14.23 | [FH]Birdemani | shadow priests get more benefits from dots now, and flay cna tick for 1800 |
13:14.33 | [FH]Birdemani | its not the same game anymore, dont look at it as you do now |
13:14.35 | sbu | Mikma: reused as in moved? |
13:14.48 | [FH]Birdemani | also, there are gems that you can upgrade it with, and those cost budget points |
13:14.50 | nevcairiel | Mikma: thats not 100% sure tho |
13:14.50 | Mikma | sbu: no reuse as using blizzards buttons |
13:15.06 | nevcairiel | maybe it will work |
13:15.07 | haarm | [FH]Birdemani, they changed MF scaling from 43 -> 65 -> 81 -> 57 :/ |
13:15.10 | Mikma | nevcairiel: well, some do use Bartender2 with TBC and only thing i have heard is stances ain't working |
13:15.27 | nevcairiel | because they dont use the secure funcs |
13:15.31 | Mikma | [Ammo] is one that uses BT2 in TBC and he says it works perfectly for him |
13:15.38 | sbu | Mikma: ah, so you have to create your own actionbars instead of modifiying blizzard ones? |
13:15.38 | nevcairiel | so cant change bars in combat |
13:15.54 | Mikma | sbu: so it seems, but we'll have to wait for next weeks with nevcairiel to see it |
13:16.32 | haarm | and flay already ticks for 1800... on Thaddius :D |
13:16.34 | Angeris | <3 shadowfiend |
13:16.43 | Angeris | http://www.untamedguild.net/images/shadowfiend/holyhealing.jpg |
13:16.49 | Angeris | http://www.untamedguild.net/images/shadowfiend/shadowdmgsfweave.jpg |
13:17.01 | Angeris | check what mana the shadowfiend gives back |
13:17.11 | CIA-17 | 03neriak 07Neriak * r15913 10gfxToggle/gfxToggle/ (. gfxToggle.lua libs/): |
13:17.11 | CIA-17 | gfxToggle: |
13:17.11 | CIA-17 | - added externals and svn:keywords |
13:17.11 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r15914 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: PetBar and ShapeBar will now swap buttons like ActionBars do. This ain't a 'rows' feature, it will only change the buttonplaces to match ActionBars |
13:17.17 | sbu | whooo |
13:17.20 | sbu | WTB shadowfiend |
13:17.44 | sbu | and w/o shadowform/weaving? :p |
13:17.44 | Mikma | nevcairiel: is it ok for you if i put you as an author too in BT2? |
13:17.53 | sbu | ah |
13:17.54 | haarm | that's quite interesting, shadowfiend benefits from +shadow damage? |
13:18.00 | sbu | 2300, mh |
13:18.08 | Angeris | entirely |
13:18.19 | Angeris | its with 2 specs |
13:18.25 | haarm | lol at the 2nd |
13:18.27 | sbu | so shadowpriest is finally going be a real DD replacement |
13:18.27 | Angeris | still great with either of them |
13:18.28 | Higdur | shadowfiend sounds sick |
13:18.42 | haarm | and i have more +damage than that, it's gonna get nerfed for sure :D |
13:18.43 | [Wobin] | What is shadowfielnd? |
13:18.46 | nevcairiel | Mikma: sure go ahead |
13:18.48 | Angeris | he gets more mana back than he spents :P |
13:18.50 | haarm | it's a priests evocation wobin |
13:18.57 | vhaarr | The shadowfiend rocks. |
13:19.00 | haarm | lvl 66 skill |
13:19.03 | [Wobin] | A minion? |
13:19.05 | vhaarr | yes |
13:19.08 | vhaarr | 5min CD |
13:19.13 | haarm | vharr, well, not if the mob is shadow immune ;p |
13:19.13 | [Wobin] | O.O |
13:19.18 | Angeris | a little pet |
13:19.26 | vhaarr | obviously |
13:19.43 | [Wobin] | O.O |
13:20.38 | Mikma | nevcairiel: i also removed my email and website from there hehe ;) |
13:21.47 | vhaarr | Anyone else having problems connecting to Curse-gaming? |
13:21.51 | vhaarr | "Fatal error: MySQL connection error." |
13:22.43 | Mikma | MAHADEVA! |
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13:22.52 | Higdur | together with Vampiric Touch that seems to fix shadow priests horrible mana |
13:23.14 | Mikma | what mana |
13:23.22 | Mikma | i got 8k with my priest and it still ain't enough |
13:23.25 | axxo | shadow priests shouldn't exist |
13:23.30 | Angeris | !!! |
13:23.34 | axxo | gief my warlock healing spells damnit |
13:23.43 | Angeris | 52 points in shadow :P |
13:23.53 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r15915 10Bartender2/Bartender2.toc: Bartender2: Giving complete credit for the person who deserves it. Added nevcairiel as author |
13:23.54 | Higdur | mana pool is overrated... wtb mp5/spi |
13:24.03 | Mikma | nevcairiel: keep your eyes open for next CIA-17 message ;D |
13:24.13 | Mikma | yes, next, not that but next! |
13:24.46 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r15916 10/branches/Bartender3/: Bartender3: Creating folder |
13:24.51 | nevcairiel | lol |
13:25.06 | Mikma | BC here we come! |
13:25.20 | cncfanatics | bt3 ? |
13:25.23 | cncfanatics | working version or ? |
13:25.26 | Mikma | no |
13:25.35 | Mikma | it's just a placeholder for version to come |
13:25.39 | cncfanatics | oki :) |
13:25.44 | axxo | i miss self-cast modifier in bartender |
13:25.46 | haarm | <Mikma> i got 8k with my priest and it still ain't enough <-- i have 7100 in healing gear buffed and 6500 in shadow gear buffed :( |
13:25.52 | cncfanatics | hope u have lots of luck & fun coding it :p |
13:26.12 | Mikma | axxo: try EgoCast |
13:26.22 | cncfanatics | haarm, i got 6.5k mana buffed, I never run oom before a boss is dead :p (mage) |
13:26.24 | axxo | willdo, thanks |
13:26.36 | haarm | yea i'm not a mage, i'm a shadowpriest :) |
13:26.40 | haarm | i last about 3 minutes |
13:26.43 | Mikma | same, same |
13:26.43 | haarm | full out |
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13:26.46 | Azurewrath | cncfanatics: Frost or Alliance? :p |
13:26.49 | Mikma | in pvp it won't last for long lol |
13:26.58 | mjc_ | frost? |
13:26.59 | mjc_ | lol |
13:27.02 | Mikma | my tactic is to mild SW:P around, and ALOT! :D |
13:27.19 | haarm | well Mikma, at least in pve with the 41 point talent, we'll be an innervate magnet |
13:27.26 | Mikma | haarm: so i got 6.3k mana unbuffed and 8k mana buffed. usually i pvp with unbuffed |
13:27.48 | haarm | wtf.. how do you get 1.7k from buffs? some paladin shit? |
13:27.53 | cncfanatics | fire, horde |
13:27.54 | Mikma | well yeah |
13:28.02 | Mikma | with the same spec i was always 8k mana within raid |
13:28.03 | haarm | horde ftw baby |
13:28.08 | Mikma | seemed like it never ended |
13:28.10 | Azurewrath | cncfanatics: hehe, ok then :) |
13:28.18 | cncfanatics | spi & mp5 ftw |
13:28.31 | cncfanatics | oh, and crits that give mana back |
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13:29.07 | haarm | well there really is a lack of spi / mp5 on damage gear, and mages / locks have ways to get their mana back |
13:29.15 | Higdur | yup... |
13:29.17 | Azurewrath | ah well.. it's ok.. the only real hard Fight manawise is Anub |
13:29.18 | haarm | so /cheer for shadowfiend, and /cheer for vampiric touch |
13:29.25 | Higdur | hence the shadowfiend and vt |
13:29.46 | cncfanatics | well, another thing, i'm only at twins also :p |
13:29.52 | cncfanatics | so no mana heavy naxx fights yet |
13:30.05 | haarm | only really mana heavy fight so far has been patch |
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13:30.21 | haarm | try doing that with no holy talents ;) |
13:30.32 | Higdur | well, lunch time |
13:30.38 | vhaarr | I was #3 on our healing meters as shadow on Patchwerk one time. |
13:30.58 | haarm | no +healing talents so you can't downrank as much, and no reduced mana talents |
13:31.36 | vhaarr | but indeed you really notice the lack of holy talents on patchwerk. |
13:32.03 | haarm | to be honest, only way i survived as ot1 healer was by taking 2nd flask for another 2k mana regen :/ |
13:32.45 | haarm | but now i'm relegated to ot3 and chief warlock renewer and patch shadow debuffer |
13:32.50 | vhaarr | Just use Dark Runes, Mana Pots and NDB's, and regen pots before the fight, and you can do it fine as a shadow spec. |
13:33.10 | haarm | night dragons and runes share a cooldown catagory |
13:33.28 | vhaarr | ah, they didn't do that before, I think. |
13:33.29 | haarm | vhaarr are you horde or alliance ? |
13:33.33 | vhaarr | ally |
13:33.38 | haarm | yea, easymode |
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13:33.52 | vhaarr | heh |
13:33.56 | haarm | blessing of wisdom anyone? please? :D |
13:34.13 | vhaarr | mana-tide? |
13:34.16 | haarm | not to mention a nice +armor aura on your tanks |
13:34.27 | [Wobin] | does mana tide even rate? =P |
13:34.31 | worf | may i ask: the beta key giveaway of WoWInterface.com - anybody who got a key from there? i'm just curious if there will be some reply somewhen or not. .. |
13:34.31 | haarm | no |
13:34.32 | haarm | lol |
13:34.44 | Mikma | whops, oh well |
13:34.48 | haarm | worf, Cairenn has been sorting people out with keys yes |
13:34.57 | haarm | for mod authors at least |
13:35.22 | worf | in that case i'll just wait... :) |
13:35.32 | worf | and hope :) |
13:35.34 | haarm | <Cairenn> next batch of names (93) just submitted |
13:35.38 | haarm | some time last night |
13:35.48 | worf | ah... k... |
13:36.02 | CIA-17 | 03mikma 07Bartender3 * r15917 10Bartender3/ (13 files): Bartender3: Bartender2 code 'turned' into Bartender3. Don't use! |
13:36.15 | Gngsk | ooh sweet |
13:36.17 | Gngsk | can't wait to check tha tout |
13:36.19 | worf | i start to beliefe that there is hope for blizzard... :) |
13:36.20 | mjc_ | heh |
13:36.26 | worf | -v +f |
13:36.32 | mjc_ | I could use a beta key ;( |
13:36.35 | CIA-17 | 03cwdg * r15918 10Denial2/ (Denial2.toc Denial2Locale-zhCN.lua): Denial2: -Add Chinese local. |
13:37.04 | haarm | hmm, do you think Shadowfiend can crit ? |
13:37.06 | haarm | :D |
13:37.30 | mjc_ | ? |
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13:38.05 | Neronix | Arsehole I know IRL (If you're from Khadgar US, this is Broond, and he is as much an arsehole in real ife as he is ingame): "You owe me a key! you WELL can't test, 'cause you're a fucking noob! Lv47? /spit!" |
13:38.24 | worf | mjc_: well, actually from a player point of view i have no intentions of trying TBC before release. but i could never forgive myself not trying to port my addons during the beta and then something important not working just because i didn't try in time |
13:38.27 | Neronix | I'm no noob, I just can't juggle time >.> |
13:39.05 | worf | mjc_: and i did whine enough allready in various forums :D |
13:39.17 | Angeris | lol,damn patch,yestrday lvl 61 was473k xp and now its 600000 something |
13:39.21 | mjc_ | I haven't whined at all |
13:39.47 | mjc_ | Angeris: heh, did they de-level anyone ? |
13:39.57 | worf | mjc_: but i did. on a very technical level tough :D |
13:40.24 | mjc_ | worf: yeah if I were to whine about it, it'd be a neat one :P |
13:40.54 | Angeris | a friend send he lost 80k xp |
13:41.27 | Angeris | thank god i went to 61,now it needs 580k xp :P |
13:42.11 | CIA-17 | 03mikma 07Bartender3 * r15921 10Bartender3/Libs/: Bartender3: Setting externals |
13:42.11 | CIA-17 | 03wobin * r15920 10MrPlow/ (MrPlow.lua MrPlow.toc): |
13:42.11 | CIA-17 | MrPlow - Fixed the plow direction bug |
13:42.11 | CIA-17 | - Reordered the options to be more useful. |
13:43.45 | haste | [Wobin]: rewrite it to handle bags as seperate bags now! |
13:44.07 | [Wobin] | why do I want to do that? =P |
13:44.34 | haste | 'cause it looks strange with two agi pots in the top of one bag, and at the bottom of the bag under :p |
13:44.46 | [Wobin] | Go port OneBag =P |
13:44.54 | haste | port OneBag :p ? |
13:45.00 | [Wobin] | well, use onebag then |
13:45.10 | haste | but I love the default inventory :( |
13:45.21 | [Wobin] | Too restrictive it is |
13:45.32 | [Wobin] | can you move the bag windows in TBC? |
13:45.40 | haste | don't think so |
13:45.43 | [Wobin] | See? |
13:45.48 | [Wobin] | Worst possible interface |
13:46.00 | [Wobin] | (well maybe not worst) |
13:46.02 | haste | I don't want to move my bags tho' |
13:46.12 | haste | and I don't want them to be _all_ in one |
13:46.19 | [Wobin] | You just -think- you don't want to =) |
13:46.25 | haste | I should write some AdvanceBagsPlus replacement |
13:46.30 | CIA-17 | 03mikma 07Bartender3 * r15922 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3.lua Options.lua): Bartender3: All 'function Bartender:something()' changed into 'function Bartender3:something()' drycoded and will propably explode |
13:46.36 | [Wobin] | Call it PlowKing! =) |
13:46.47 | haste | I don't like how PlowKing looks :p |
13:46.54 | haste | or I didn't at least :p |
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13:46.59 | [Wobin] | That's still up to debate anyway |
13:47.16 | haste | make it look like the oSkin'd default bags! |
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13:51.01 | CIA-17 | 03wobin * r15923 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow - Actually fixed the plow direction this time |
13:52.21 | Mikma | nevcairiel: should we make a check for Bartender2 in Bartender3 and have it disable BT2 if found? |
13:52.26 | CIA-17 | 03mikma 07Bartender3 * r15924 10Bartender3/ (6 files): Bartender3: drycode fixed |
13:52.44 | Mikma | nevcairiel: that would eliminate the userstupidity ;) |
13:52.54 | haarm | never underestimate user stupidity |
13:53.19 | Mikma | haarm: well in this case i'm afraid that the users will load BT2 and BT3 together |
13:53.26 | Mikma | which will propably result an assplode |
13:53.33 | haarm | probably :P |
13:54.36 | Mikma | and that's why i changed all "Bartender" texts into Bartender3 ;) |
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13:54.42 | mjc_ | http://www.ethicalhacker.net/images/stories/features/skillz/hitchhacker/bg_1280x1024.png |
13:54.58 | Mikma | now i can just check "IsAddonLoaded("Bartender") then DisableAddon("Bartender")" |
13:55.22 | mjc_ | Mikma: better to disable bt3 if bt2 is loaded |
13:55.43 | Mikma | mjc_: no. BT3 is for Burning Crusade and BT2 is for WoW normal |
13:55.51 | mjc_ | ah |
13:57.17 | mjc_ | http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4812 |
13:59.44 | haarm | Mikma, you'd still have to issue a reloadui after that right ? |
13:59.59 | nevcairiel | mikma let them be idiots, and dont care about it |
14:02.56 | Tain | oh man /dev/null's annual NetHack tournament is on, I missed the start! |
14:05.31 | Mikma | haarm: propably. |
14:06.57 | Xuerian | AKX: Huh? o.0 |
14:07.05 | AKX | it broke :( |
14:07.16 | AKX | just at ony loot, it broke |
14:07.23 | Xuerian | Got a stack trace for me? |
14:07.35 | AKX | Nope, I had to get the dragon bitch looted, no time for debuggage |
14:07.40 | AKX | It complained about a missing function |
14:08.07 | Xuerian | Did you update all of Xloot/Monitor/Master or just master? |
14:08.16 | AKX | Master |
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14:08.40 | Mikma | nevcairiel: Bartender3 is "working now". i removed the StickyFrames.lua from .toc since people say it's not working |
14:08.42 | AKX | I think it whined about iterateTable |
14:08.46 | Xuerian | Monitor and Master are just modules, and in that update I moved a similar function from both into Master |
14:08.52 | Xuerian | er |
14:08.56 | Mikma | nevcairiel: you might wan't to check out the code to see what's "new" .. Bartender -> Bartender3 etc |
14:08.56 | Xuerian | into Xloot |
14:09.03 | Elkano | WoW is strange... 3 people behind a router... one can play normal, one has lag spikes and one is disconnected after login :/ |
14:09.14 | Xuerian | You had to update all three and relog =\ |
14:09.23 | AKX | You didn't say that. *frown* |
14:09.25 | AKX | Oh well |
14:09.37 | Xuerian | I'm sorry. |
14:09.52 | AKX | No worries. |
14:10.25 | Mikma | oh great |
14:10.28 | Mikma | nice work AKX |
14:10.34 | [Wobin] | Damnit AKX |
14:10.42 | [Wobin] | You're the reason the internet can't have nice things =( |
14:10.48 | vhaarr | haha |
14:10.57 | AKX | Is "can't have nice things" a 4chan meme... |
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14:11.15 | vhaarr | Saxamophone! Saxamophone! Trambampoline! |
14:13.06 | Xuerian | Yeah :P. Afk for a few hours. Update all three, restart wow and be happy. No more stabbity-stabbity and we're all habbity :P |
14:13.13 | AKX | Yes. :) |
14:13.21 | AKX | In MC, Domo fight now, though |
14:13.35 | Xuerian | Ahh. |
14:13.37 | Xuerian | Good luck :P |
14:13.40 | AKX | Thanks. |
14:13.40 | CIA-17 | 03cwdg * r15925 10ChatLog/ (ChatLog.toc Locale-zhTW.lua): ChatLog: Add zhTW local for chatlog by wolftankk. |
14:13.43 | Kirkburn | I'm seeing a new library that's not part of the lib system? Quixote? |
14:13.56 | [Wobin] | does it tilt at windmills? |
14:14.06 | Kirkburn | heh |
14:14.20 | Kirkburn | It's not in StandaloneLibraries yet, at least |
14:14.23 | Elkano | who's responsible for Quixote? |
14:14.36 | Kirkburn | Kemayo i think |
14:14.53 | [Wobin] | what does it do? |
14:14.58 | Kirkburn | It's in FuBar QuestsFu |
14:15.13 | Kirkburn | "FuBar_QuestsFu: Update to use Quixote (new library for quest handling)." |
14:15.25 | [Wobin] | qay |
14:15.45 | Kirkburn | I mention it cause I'm trying to get it as a standalone, so wowaceupdater keeps track of it :) |
14:16.15 | Kirkburn | Ah, nvm, found it on /files |
14:16.51 | [Wobin] | nini |
14:17.01 | [Wobin] | Someday my key will come |
14:18.28 | haarm | will it kiss you and wake you up too Wobin ? |
14:19.03 | Mikma | heh now i have 1 bag full of runecloths |
14:19.06 | Mikma | i hope that will do |
14:19.26 | haarm | yea, you need minimum 100, better to get closer to 150 |
14:20.02 | Mikma | well 1x18 slotter will propably do |
14:20.16 | haarm | you get 18 slotters as pvp rewards now |
14:20.45 | Mikma | whaaat? |
14:20.50 | haarm | yep :) |
14:20.55 | haarm | it's true |
14:20.56 | Mikma | that's like, sweet |
14:21.19 | Mikma | i'm missing 1x 18 slotter to have all bags with me as 18slots :P |
14:21.37 | haarm | i think there's 20 slotters in game :D |
14:21.46 | haarm | Primal Mooncloth bags |
14:21.49 | haarm | or something |
14:22.10 | Mikma | holy mother :D |
14:22.25 | arkanes | There's 18s that look relatively easily craftable |
14:28.31 | haste | hmm |
14:28.37 | haste | Death coil hits you for 1100 |
14:29.06 | phyber | *sigh* |
14:29.16 | phyber | haste: post the screenshot, get everyone shouting nerf :p |
14:29.16 | Tain | tain - killed by a falling rock |
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14:30.19 | Angeris | warlocks are whining cause they cant fear hunters |
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14:30.39 | phyber | heh, neat. what do hunters have that stops fear? |
14:30.52 | haarm | aimed shot :D |
14:31.12 | Angeris | a new talent/spell taht makes them immune to fear |
14:31.19 | Angeris | its in tbc |
14:31.27 | haarm | aimed shot + could of auto shots stops most people casting fear ;) |
14:31.31 | haarm | *couple of |
14:31.34 | phyber | people seem to forget it's a rock/paper/scissors type thing. and they need to fuck off. |
14:35.02 | haarm | hunters seem to forget the only reason they get groups is because Tranq Shot has a class restriction ;x |
14:35.09 | phyber | hehe |
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14:46.40 | Toadkiller | Tekkub: Do you know what needs to be done to get rid of the lowercase Autobar in files? |
14:47.13 | Toadkiller | hunters also needed for FD pull |
14:47.31 | nevcairiel | Toadkiller: ask cladhaire |
14:47.42 | Toadkiller | kool tx |
14:49.27 | Laric | Kemayo are you here? |
14:49.59 | Laric | ~seen Kemayo |
14:50.16 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'Most do, I think.'. |
14:50.16 | Mikma | Laric: test before you commit something in trunk ;) |
14:50.36 | Mikma | i had to take the addon you added off from .toc since it was giving out an error |
14:50.55 | Laric | Mikma I noticed |
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14:52.32 | Toadkiller | I was reading the thread on RDX and thinking about adding autobar support for having specific item sets / layouts per boss. I know events get sent to all mods. SHould there be a general ace mechanism so lots of mods can support per boss features? |
14:53.40 | vhaarr | hm |
14:53.48 | vhaarr | I guess we could code something in to BW. |
14:53.52 | vhaarr | We've been thinking about it. |
14:53.59 | Toadkiller | *Ace events. perhaps some standard event? |
14:54.25 | Toadkiller | yeah i was looking at bw and it seems like the logical mod to send out the messages |
14:54.29 | vhaarr | There are no events at the moment. |
14:54.37 | vhaarr | BW sends a sync at some bosses. |
14:54.43 | vhaarr | "BossEngaged <bossname>" |
14:54.47 | vhaarr | But not nearly all of them. |
14:55.21 | vhaarr | The problem is that once that is sent, the boss is actually engaged and you are in combat. |
14:55.28 | vhaarr | I'd think you want something that is fired before that. |
14:55.44 | Toadkiller | BW does "engage" a module ahead of time tho |
14:55.45 | vhaarr | So you'd want "EnableModule <boss module>", which is triggered when someone targets a boss or mouses over it. |
14:55.54 | vhaarr | It doesn't engage, it enables. |
14:55.55 | Toadkiller | yeah |
14:56.08 | vhaarr | Problem is, that can fire any time. |
14:56.20 | Toadkiller | yes it can get ahead of itself |
14:56.43 | vhaarr | So at the moment, it's not possible. |
14:56.45 | Toadkiller | maybe something like threatmeters aproach? |
14:57.00 | vhaarr | For AutoBar, sure, for BW, there is already. |
14:57.20 | vhaarr | We're going to be adding bossmod enabling by subzones some time. |
14:57.33 | vhaarr | Since it's required for Kel'Thuzad, and probably others later on. |
14:57.44 | [Ammo] | morning |
14:57.50 | vhaarr | morning ammo |
14:57.51 | Toadkiller | I am just trying to avoid copying & pasting code for this. |
14:57.52 | Mikma | [Ammo]: hi |
14:57.58 | vhaarr | wait .. "morning"? :P |
14:58.03 | [Ammo] | hehe |
14:58.08 | [Ammo] | well I just had a nap |
14:58.09 | vhaarr | I just had dinner :P |
14:58.10 | vhaarr | hehe |
14:58.18 | [Ammo] | drank some whiskey with my brother last night |
14:58.22 | [Ammo] | and woke up way too early |
14:58.26 | vhaarr | ah |
14:58.30 | vhaarr | sounds fun |
14:58.50 | [Ammo] | yarr |
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14:59.01 | pb_ee1 | Heya ;) |
14:59.05 | Toadkiller | Lol apparently there is an issue with AutoBar having a button for hearth stone & BA off of vail and sometimes people, even the tank hits hearth & it happens kinda fast, like instantly... |
14:59.17 | maia | guys, please vote for Grid and add it to your favourites: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5747 and http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5772 (the TBC version) |
14:59.35 | Amadeo | huh? instant hearthing? |
14:59.40 | Amadeo | I need to use your addon |
14:59.41 | Amadeo | :P |
14:59.49 | maia | (I'm done with my spam) |
14:59.50 | vhaarr | On vael .. |
15:00.07 | Toadkiller | lol yeah, someone sent mne a link to a euro forum where some tank was complaining about it |
15:00.15 | Mikma | maia: gief me money! |
15:00.15 | Laric | blast the entire inn in if? :P |
15:00.21 | Amadeo | vhaarr: Now I just need an addon to simulate Vael anywhere in the world |
15:00.33 | Laric | grid down now maia? :P |
15:00.38 | maia | Mikma: ask RDX to give you money, since they are selling "Raid Grid" |
15:00.39 | Toadkiller | nah i think blizz fixed that but I laughed pretty hard at the thought of it |
15:01.07 | Mikma | maia: calm down, i use Grid. now give me cash! |
15:01.23 | maia | lol |
15:01.30 | vhaarr | maia: done :) |
15:01.32 | [Ammo] | need inspiration |
15:01.38 | Amadeo | Grid is really cool, but how do you know who is who? |
15:01.44 | vhaarr | maia: BTW, have you thougth about Detox for TBC? |
15:02.22 | maia | Amadeo: turn on the names? |
15:02.25 | pb_ee1 | Question: If I do a ResetDB('profile'), it resets all the profile of the user? |
15:02.40 | maia | vhaarr: err, I think Detox is dead. whatever can be transferred to Grid will be transferred. |
15:02.49 | pb_ee1 | All the profileS of the user, I meant, of the current AddOn obviously |
15:02.50 | vhaarr | maia: Alright, I might touch it up for TBC, then. |
15:02.53 | vhaarr | maia: After release. |
15:03.01 | haste | Does anyone have some patch notes for the latest TBC? |
15:03.01 | vhaarr | maia: Just as a debuff list. |
15:03.03 | vhaarr | Nothing more. |
15:03.09 | maia | okay |
15:03.11 | vhaarr | haste: There are none. |
15:03.12 | haste | or some blue post regarding it |
15:03.23 | vhaarr | They fixed one thing I suggested, though :) |
15:03.48 | vhaarr | There are some ogres in Zangarmarsh that you are supposed to steal some mushrooms from, and when you open the mushroom crates, a ogre spawns. |
15:04.04 | maia | RDX authors seem to not see any problem with copying concepts, as long as they arent copying code. E.g. someone just wrote in their forums: "Example, I just did a complete copy of how perfectPaid looks, with RDX. All it took was a bit of scripting, and some fiddling around with the placement." |
15:04.10 | vhaarr | Initially he didn't say anything when he spawned, and I thought it was boring, so I suggested they should say "You no take mushroom!". |
15:04.13 | vhaarr | And they implemented it :D |
15:04.43 | Amadeo | maia: Can you see full names in it? I didn't know it was an option |
15:04.50 | Mikma | maia: what's the difference between Grid and Grid TBC? :) |
15:04.51 | Amadeo | I just look at the screenies :) |
15:04.53 | maia | Amadeo: you can see up to, uum, 4 letters. |
15:05.06 | maia | Mikma: only the TBC Ace embedded libs. |
15:05.10 | Amadeo | I see |
15:05.24 | maia | Mikma: actually you can also use the 1.12 version and just replace AceHook |
15:05.36 | Mikma | maia: mmkay :) |
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15:07.35 | Amadeo | How come Grid is posted by pastamancer? |
15:07.59 | Amadeo | oh, it's a joint project |
15:08.27 | maia | yup |
15:08.48 | Amadeo | I'll probably be using it in TBC |
15:08.51 | haste | doing a MC cash run right now |
15:08.52 | Amadeo | When I make my Priest |
15:09.01 | haste | and some random warrior took follow on our puller |
15:09.09 | haste | we sacrificed him to the Gods in MC |
15:09.15 | phyber | haste: selling BoPs or just gold from the bosses? |
15:09.27 | haste | selling |
15:09.34 | Amadeo | hah |
15:09.36 | phyber | cool. |
15:09.39 | Amadeo | how much do you charge? |
15:09.41 | Mikma | maia: now, sell it for 25$ |
15:10.00 | haste | Amadeo: 40G minbid |
15:10.03 | haste | min raise is 10 |
15:10.33 | Toadkiller | so like your raid takes random people along & they can pay gold for bops? |
15:10.43 | haste | yes |
15:10.47 | Toadkiller | I like it! |
15:10.59 | haste | we bring 20 people from our guild, and we boost 20 randoms through MC in three hours |
15:11.43 | phyber | paying for your naxx repairs I guess. |
15:12.28 | haste | every fourth run goes to the GBank |
15:12.31 | phyber | I wonder if Blizzard intended this to happen or if they'll try to nerf this so that Warriors must enjoy grinding 20-30g per night for repairs. |
15:12.40 | Kirkburn | Quick note: Vote vote vote!! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Proposed_icon |
15:12.45 | pb_ee1 | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=750216&sid=2 >> Patch notes for TBC |
15:12.45 | haste | paying for titans and such |
15:13.08 | pb_ee1 | haste |
15:13.12 | haste | pb_ee1: thank you |
15:13.17 | pb_ee1 | np ;) |
15:13.21 | Kirkburn | pb_ee1, those are old? |
15:13.25 | phyber | I dislike each icon more than the icon that preceeded it. |
15:13.36 | Amadeo | So what's this Cloak of Shadows thing that everyone is going nuts over? |
15:14.08 | pb_ee1 | Kirkburn: Aha true, it's from the release 6022 |
15:14.12 | Kirkburn | =) |
15:14.20 | Toadkiller | why do worriers whine about measly 30g repair bills when I can blow through 45gp worth of major mana pots (thats 15 pots) + 10gp repair??? |
15:14.33 | gngsk| | Amadeo, http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=31224 |
15:14.47 | pb_ee1 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/alpha-beta-en.html >> The only link I have for patch notes |
15:15.12 | Amadeo | wow, wasn't that a 41 point talent? |
15:15.22 | Gngsk | yea, it is |
15:15.32 | Amadeo | I heard it's trainable now instead? |
15:15.42 | Gngsk | o_O |
15:16.01 | Gngsk | wouldn't know, I'm not in the beta test |
15:16.09 | haarm | lol in the beta, glowcap is bugged :D .. it's interact range is the same as it's visibile distance :D |
15:16.16 | Amadeo | that's the biggest jump I've ever seen |
15:16.19 | Amadeo | from 41 point talent to free skill |
15:16.41 | Mikma | Kirkburn: how come there has been people voting twice on different pictures? :) |
15:16.53 | Kirkburn | Two votes each :) |
15:17.07 | Kirkburn | It says at the top of the vote :P |
15:17.22 | Saroz | pastamancer, are you planning on turning some of the logic in Grid in to libs? Like a banzai is for aggro, a lib for healing (squishy type) etc. etc. |
15:17.24 | Mikma | ohkay |
15:17.27 | Mikma | then i must add another |
15:17.43 | Kirkburn | =) |
15:20.01 | Mikma | there we go |
15:20.08 | Mikma | i'm kinda surprised that no-one likes the stamp |
15:20.51 | Kirkburn | Wikignome! :D |
15:21.51 | arkanes | pvp specced rogues are going to be cloth killers again with that |
15:22.03 | arkanes | seems like blizz decided thats what we do |
15:22.20 | Toadkiller | rogues = scissors |
15:22.29 | Mikma | cloth == paper |
15:22.34 | Amadeo | with CoS? They'll be invincible for a while again |
15:22.38 | Amadeo | Especially the BEs |
15:22.47 | arkanes | eh, the BE thing is overrated |
15:23.06 | Toadkiller | I cant wait to be a healing tree |
15:23.08 | arkanes | now, if you could charge it up without breaking stealth, then you'd have something |
15:23.15 | haarm | cloak of shadows needs a longer cooldown |
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15:23.25 | arkanes | but yeah, they added a whole bunch of anti-caster stuff to rogues |
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15:23.40 | arkanes | if it's trainable it should probably be 5 like the rest of our stuff |
15:23.50 | Kirkburn | rock = rock? Casters can blow it up, but a rogue will just hurt his hands :) |
15:23.50 | arkanes | the 2 minute was fair for the talent |
15:23.54 | haarm | and imo, shadowstep shouldn't be instant, it should be like charge |
15:24.09 | Amadeo | Everyone has an idea of how the game is balanced, but there's the real answer: It's not |
15:24.14 | haarm | so they lose control for a second or two |
15:25.34 | Toadkiller | IT is balanced via in game statistics. It is much more complicated than Starcraft though so it can not be said to be balanced the way SC is |
15:25.39 | Amadeo | If it's balanced for groups, then there would be 9 person groups...otherwise there will always be a better class to fill a role |
15:26.19 | arkanes | "balance" is not a simple thing |
15:26.36 | arkanes | you can't say "this is not balanced" except in the most exceptional cases, because theres always a context involved |
15:26.51 | pb_ee1 | T_T |
15:27.04 | pb_ee1 | I'm using AceDB-2.0 and since I only have problems |
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15:27.24 | Amadeo | Well, you can...because they say it's either rock paper scissors or groups...but the thing is, you have some classes that are better against all classes than others are |
15:27.29 | Mikma | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bartender3 lol |
15:27.40 | pb_ee1 | I'm registering defaults for 'char' and 'profile', then when I want to do ResetDB('char') it pops me an error: cannot access to 'char' |
15:27.42 | Amadeo | So for example, 2v2 BGs, two of one class that is better against all classes is just not balanced |
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15:28.17 | Amadeo | You have Warriors who *must* have a healer to do anything |
15:28.26 | Amadeo | But you have classes that need nothing to be successful in PvP |
15:28.32 | Amadeo | Stuff like that |
15:28.50 | Toadkiller | by pvp do you mean BG or dueling? |
15:28.55 | arkanes | thats just not the case |
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15:28.56 | CIA-17 | gfxToggle: |
15:28.56 | CIA-17 | - fixed localization and changed some options |
15:29.05 | arkanes | twin paladin is a pretty hefty team |
15:29.08 | Amadeo | Toadkiller: BGs |
15:29.20 | Amadeo | arkanes: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying |
15:29.24 | arkanes | but other than that, there's not any standout "this rules" team |
15:29.26 | Amadeo | but why should they be? |
15:29.32 | arkanes | paladins are getting some of thier burst rolled back |
15:29.38 | arkanes | beta balance effects and all, remember |
15:29.43 | Amadeo | arkanes: Two Rogues, Two Mages, Two Warlocks...they're all strong teams |
15:29.53 | arkanes | I suspect that the rogue buffs we just got will not last in this form |
15:30.00 | Amadeo | Two Warriors would get stomped |
15:30.09 | arkanes | two warriors is still a strong team |
15:30.22 | Amadeo | Warriors can be controlled too easily |
15:30.28 | Amadeo | there's plenty of CC left in the game |
15:30.32 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3423 |
15:30.32 | arkanes | they have a variety of things to help with that now |
15:30.33 | Toadkiller | Well I did Horde druid till rank 13. WHen I started it seemed like pallies were stupidly favoured for WSG but after we put in a few painfull weeks to learn WSG they ceased being a problem. |
15:30.48 | arkanes | just like rogues got |
15:30.50 | Amadeo | arkanes: What do they have? |
15:30.59 | arkanes | prior to this last buff 2 rogues was about as weak as you can get |
15:31.06 | Amadeo | I don't agree with that |
15:31.22 | Amadeo | Well played Rogues are extremely powerful |
15:31.25 | Amadeo | especially with good gear |
15:31.26 | arkanes | untrue |
15:31.27 | Mikma | aye |
15:31.35 | Toadkiller | after the 1.12 patch the tough thing was going up agaisnt T3 teams. |
15:31.36 | Mikma | they are really freaking hard to beat with priest |
15:31.37 | arkanes | rogues have 1 trick mechanic that makes them good in duelling |
15:31.39 | arkanes | and thats stunlock |
15:31.41 | Amadeo | I had a PTR Rogue and I beat almost everyone |
15:31.49 | Amadeo | and I'm not talking about just PTR noobs |
15:31.55 | arkanes | stunlock is marginalized in TBC |
15:32.05 | Amadeo | they didn't marginalize anything enough |
15:32.16 | Amadeo | Polymorph for 10 seconds in Battlegrounds is still a TON of time |
15:32.30 | arkanes | doubling stamina marginalized stunlock |
15:32.45 | axxo | not if you double dmg |
15:32.46 | Toadkiller | bah, you regen health while poly. 25 second fear or whatever it is is the stupid thing |
15:32.47 | Amadeo | right |
15:32.49 | Amadeo | Your damage went up too |
15:32.58 | arkanes | right now, without a gear advantage or a poorly played opponent, a rogue can stunlock warriors and priests, thats it |
15:33.09 | arkanes | it's not doubled, especially not burst |
15:33.11 | Amadeo | untrue |
15:33.16 | arkanes | oh, and druids in caster form |
15:33.23 | Amadeo | I was killing Warlocks on PTR within a stunlock |
15:33.31 | Amadeo | Soul Link took a few seconds longer |
15:33.47 | Amadeo | Mages were easy if you used a few cooldowns |
15:33.52 | Gngsk | Amadeo, your arguments mean nothing unless they're based on TBC |
15:33.59 | arkanes | but you can't stunlock them |
15:34.04 | Amadeo | arkanes: You can |
15:34.09 | Amadeo | just a different method |
15:34.10 | arkanes | no you can't |
15:34.16 | arkanes | if he's running around, he's not stunlocked |
15:34.18 | arkanes | end of story |
15:34.20 | Amadeo | what? |
15:34.23 | Amadeo | CS > Gouge, they can't move |
15:34.40 | Amadeo | you do something, they blink, you vanish |
15:34.43 | Amadeo | then you CS again, they're dead |
15:35.11 | arkanes | but they aren't |
15:35.17 | Amadeo | They were for me :P |
15:35.17 | arkanes | unless you've got a gear advantage |
15:35.25 | arkanes | you're talking about maybe 4k in damage |
15:35.28 | Amadeo | and if something screws up, you just Blind |
15:35.41 | arkanes | the vast majority of rogue fights are won because opponents do not play well |
15:35.48 | Amadeo | Well my premade had gear, but so did the other classes |
15:36.08 | arkanes | the 1.12 or whatever PTR is a really horrible environment for that sort of testing |
15:36.32 | Amadeo | I dunno, give me certain classes to play, even in TBC, and I could show how powerful they are :P |
15:36.45 | arkanes | without the TBC talents and skills, a mage with 21 points in frost has a counter to every rogue ability on a shorter cooldown |
15:36.47 | [Liquidor] | I feel the same |
15:36.49 | Amadeo | maybe I'll get to try that when they put TBC on test |
15:36.50 | arkanes | it's a totally unbalanced match |
15:37.07 | arkanes | a forst mage who lose to a rogue is either outgeared or did not play well |
15:37.16 | [Liquidor] | word |
15:37.18 | [Liquidor] | weææ |
15:37.19 | [Liquidor] | well* |
15:37.21 | Amadeo | arkanes: A really, really good Frost Mage is probably the strongest class in the game...but they're gonna use Ice Block twice to win |
15:37.22 | [Liquidor] | frost mage > all |
15:37.25 | arkanes | the same for a lot of other class matchups |
15:37.26 | [Liquidor] | imo |
15:37.28 | Amadeo | yep |
15:37.37 | arkanes | warlocks can be taken down by a 100-0 stunlock, or by well played undead |
15:37.55 | omega_ | but a frost mage cant do jack shit to a lock with felhunter |
15:37.59 | Amadeo | they can |
15:38.06 | arkanes | Amadeo: it's somehow bad for a mage to iceblock twice, but okay for a rogue to burn vanish blind and prep? |
15:38.07 | Amadeo | it's just gear and skill with Ice Block |
15:38.10 | arkanes | oh, and sprint |
15:38.13 | Amadeo | Warlocks are NOT all-powerful like people think |
15:38.16 | Amadeo | people just don't know how to fight them |
15:38.18 | [Liquidor] | I'm playing a frost mage atm and is green geared with 2x Magister's and level 57, I still manage to take down L60's |
15:38.32 | arkanes | a rogue cannot beat a good lock unless he 100-0 stunlocks him or he's undead |
15:38.38 | [Liquidor] | Even my weapons are green except for the mage wand |
15:38.48 | arkanes | and you can't 100-0 stunlock a SL lock without a gear advantage |
15:39.04 | Amadeo | arkanes: That's not completely true...if stuff goes wrong, most times I'll kill a Warlock first...then I die to DoTs :P |
15:39.10 | [Liquidor] | Even possible to stunlock a lock with socubus out? |
15:39.16 | Amadeo | Yes |
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15:39.24 | arkanes | yes but you have to be *extremly* quick |
15:39.24 | Toadkiller | well currently a feral druid is sol against a lock, but a healbot can kick its ass... so you need to consider spec as well not just class |
15:39.27 | [Liquidor] | Seduce spam? |
15:39.31 | arkanes | and burn renatakis and/or tea |
15:39.42 | Amadeo | With my Warrior, as soon as a Succubus starts casting, I tab-Pummel, and I win :P |
15:39.44 | arkanes | you kill the succ |
15:39.51 | arkanes | it's actually really easy with a detect invis potion |
15:39.56 | arkanes | so I guess theres another way |
15:40.13 | [Liquidor] | Succ. < Iceblock <3 |
15:40.15 | Amadeo | Toadkiller: I dunno about that either |
15:40.17 | Amadeo | Druids just need room |
15:40.29 | Amadeo | Druids can beat anyone, just takes forever...lots of running to heal |
15:40.29 | Tain | eaten by a Grue! |
15:40.34 | arkanes | the problem with the succ from a rogue perspective is that you lose your CP when you switch to the succ |
15:40.48 | Amadeo | Tain: Grue's are overpowered |
15:40.49 | Toadkiller | hehe only so far u can run in a duel |
15:41.02 | arkanes | so the need is to get the lock to bring the succ out of invis before you commit too much to building CP and a stunlock |
15:41.13 | Toadkiller | yeah non duel you better have a buddy or your ass is grass |
15:41.15 | [Liquidor] | For some weird reason I find druids easier to kill than any other class, but probably because they underestimate me being L57 and greeny geared causing them to stay in catform till they realise they can't out-damage me |
15:41.17 | Amadeo | arkanes: You normally only need one Seduce break to win...every Rogue gets a trinket :) |
15:41.27 | arkanes | uh, no |
15:41.36 | arkanes | CS lock, he seduces, trinket, kill succ |
15:41.50 | Amadeo | What kind of gear do you have? Greens? :P |
15:41.51 | arkanes | now you're 10 yards away from an undamage lock with your trinket on CD |
15:41.59 | [Liquidor] | Really kill Succ? |
15:42.08 | Amadeo | I don't bother with the succubus unless I sapped the Warlock |
15:42.20 | arkanes | only a retarded lock will seduce on a sap |
15:42.33 | Toadkiller | Liquid: what class is your 57? |
15:42.34 | arkanes | if he seduces on a sap you've got him |
15:42.37 | Amadeo | yep |
15:42.47 | [Liquidor] | Toadkiller: mage |
15:43.02 | Amadeo | I find that the times Warlocks beat my Rogue...it was because of something like a Stun resist or no poison proc |
15:43.06 | arkanes | he won't seduce until you actually start hurting him, and once that happens you've only got ~10 seconds of CC |
15:43.07 | Toadkiller | do you have the trinkets? |
15:43.11 | Amadeo | other than that, they always lost |
15:43.11 | [Liquidor] | Been doing AV the last 3 days 18 hours a day :) |
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15:43.12 | CIA-17 | FuBar: |
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15:43.19 | Amadeo | arkanes: What race is your Rogue? |
15:43.21 | arkanes | then they played poorly |
15:43.23 | arkanes | undead |
15:43.27 | Amadeo | oh come on |
15:43.29 | [Liquidor] | Neutral -> Exalted over 3 days and 2 levels |
15:43.29 | Amadeo | You can kill anyone then :P |
15:43.37 | arkanes | if I double fear break I can |
15:43.37 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07dev * r15928 10Interview/ (Adapters/swstats.lua Interview.toc Util/Macros.lua): Interview: Macros module added to allow exchange of user macros. Fix minor bug in SWS configuration module |
15:43.43 | arkanes | if I don't do that then the lock will kill me |
15:43.45 | Amadeo | I'm guessing you don't have very good gear |
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15:43.48 | arkanes | he often will kill me even if he dies :( |
15:43.52 | [Liquidor] | Toadkiller: which trinkets? |
15:44.04 | phyber | need to make a BossLootTable thing for Cartographer using PeriodicTable. |
15:44.04 | arkanes | I have excellent gear |
15:44.12 | arkanes | but I'm pve specced, and I don't find morons |
15:44.22 | [Liquidor] | I use Nifty Stopwatch and Stormpike insignia rank 4 |
15:44.25 | arkanes | warlocks why try to melee with firestones aren't much trouble |
15:44.26 | Toadkiller | top & zhc |
15:44.33 | Toadkiller | *toep |
15:44.34 | Amadeo | lol, never seen that |
15:44.48 | arkanes | we've got a lock in our guild who swears that it's a viable raid DPS spec :P |
15:44.50 | [Liquidor] | seen what? |
15:44.52 | phyber | ToEP and ZHC share a cooldown now, don't they? |
15:44.53 | arkanes | we all kinda laugh at him |
15:44.59 | Amadeo | Warlocks meleeing with firestones |
15:45.00 | haste | phyber: yes |
15:45.08 | cncfanatics | wtf is a firestone ? -.- |
15:45.09 | [Liquidor] | Use ZHC and Hibernation (doesn't share CD) |
15:45.17 | arkanes | it's a held item that adds fire damage to melee |
15:45.22 | arkanes | also some fire spellpower |
15:45.28 | arkanes | nobody uses them cause they're stupid :P |
15:45.37 | cncfanatics | offhand ? |
15:45.40 | arkanes | yeah |
15:45.44 | sylvanaar | good for farming |
15:45.49 | cncfanatics | not bad if u dont got an offhand I guess :p |
15:45.53 | Amadeo | The king of PvP will always be burst damage, and the counter to that will always be...burst healing! |
15:46.02 | arkanes | indeed |
15:46.06 | arkanes | burst damage > all |
15:46.06 | cncfanatics | I outdmg bursthealing Amadeo :p |
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15:46.15 | cncfanatics | combust + MQG ftw |
15:46.18 | Amadeo | hehe |
15:46.20 | cncfanatics | shatter + MQG in bc |
15:46.22 | arkanes | raise your hand if you'vebeen 2 shot from 35 yards by a fire mage :P |
15:46.29 | cncfanatics | raises hand |
15:46.33 | cncfanatics | also did it before :) |
15:46.36 | Toadkiller | raise paw |
15:46.42 | Amadeo | I've been 2 shot by a lot of classes |
15:46.51 | arkanes | I got stunlocked by a paladin once |
15:46.52 | Amadeo | I had a Druid hit me with Ravage for 2200, and that was like 5 months ago |
15:46.53 | arkanes | that was depressing |
15:46.56 | sylvanaar | the better offhand for pvp is the spellstone - those are way useful in pvp |
15:46.59 | cncfanatics | blink ? -.- |
15:47.02 | [Liquidor] | My L57 mage has 2.5hp :> |
15:47.11 | arkanes | my mains a rogue :P |
15:47.21 | arkanes | we can't do jack against stuns, kinda ironic |
15:47.22 | cncfanatics | mage ain't made to have hp |
15:47.22 | Amadeo | brb |
15:47.30 | cncfanatics | +dmg + crit ! |
15:47.44 | cncfanatics | and stay behind ur friendly warrior that has healers spamming him |
15:47.44 | arkanes | anyway, I have to shave & go out with the wife |
15:47.45 | cncfanatics | they draw enough attention usualy |
15:47.49 | cncfanatics | cya, have fun :) |
15:47.52 | Toadkiller | lol the new av is so nice for a small druid / rogue pack to roam &ravage the weak & the lonely ;-p |
15:47.55 | [Liquidor] | cncfanatics: hah you should see that guy who made a movie on the mage forums (EU). he got like 5k hp and no mana |
15:47.58 | arkanes | oh, in BGs I don't actually try to kill anythign |
15:48.06 | arkanes | I cheapshot healers and people on the end of an assist train |
15:48.09 | cncfanatics | bleh |
15:48.15 | arkanes | and I use my leet pve DPS on marshalls |
15:48.16 | cncfanatics | i got 6.5k mana unbuffed & barely any hp :p |
15:48.18 | cncfanatics | but i'm raid spec |
15:48.30 | arkanes | I can't one on one hardly anything in a BG |
15:48.36 | arkanes | and I don't often bother |
15:48.39 | [Liquidor] | 2 sec, ill find it :> |
15:48.42 | [Liquidor] | You gotta see it |
15:48.46 | cncfanatics | ambush + backstab + gouge + eviscerate low hp ppl ? |
15:48.54 | sylvanaar | eff raiding - 2 toons to full tier 2 is enough |
15:48.56 | arkanes | combat daggers pve spec |
15:49.01 | arkanes | I've got no burst damage at all |
15:49.04 | cncfanatics | oh |
15:49.07 | sylvanaar | waste o time |
15:49.13 | cncfanatics | fire pve spec :) burst is my speciality :) |
15:49.15 | arkanes | so I just use stuns on players and kill mobs |
15:49.40 | arkanes | I did one shot a drinking mage and then spring away before anyone could kill me once |
15:49.44 | arkanes | that was hot |
15:49.59 | arkanes | doesn't happen very often though :P |
15:50.02 | [Liquidor] | Aww my pc can't handle this :( both AV and browser |
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15:50.53 | [Liquidor] | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=77278202&sid=1 |
15:51.00 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r15929 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/FuBar_MicroMenuFu.toc: |
15:51.00 | CIA-17 | FuBar_MicroMenuFu: |
15:51.00 | CIA-17 | - added X-Category to TOC |
15:51.02 | [Liquidor] | There's a Live Streaming as well |
15:51.16 | [Liquidor] | He's just redicilous that mage :> |
15:51.33 | [Liquidor] | It's a PvP movie and he keeps saying "Please stop judging my movie by the gear i wear. Judge the movie on what the movie is, not on the gear i wear." |
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15:56.11 | haarm | does tht mean its worth watching or not ? |
15:56.19 | haste | haha, mt on VT: don't overaggro, I'm on the phone! |
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15:57.42 | [Liquidor] | Dunno if it's worth watching. I couldn't watch it all, had to stop it already at 2:00 |
15:58.12 | Zyphr | wish i had a beta account all these newb warriors got em =( |
15:59.15 | `-FISKER_Q | anyone got that itemlevel addon for TBC? |
15:59.42 | haarm | well at least he chose pendulum for the music, it's a good start |
16:00.31 | nevcairiel | itemlevel are reported by the UI in tbc |
16:00.36 | Mikma | mostly harmless |
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16:02.54 | haarm | nah, nowhere near impressive [Liquidor] |
16:03.08 | [Liquidor] | I know |
16:03.12 | [Liquidor] | That's the reason I posted it |
16:03.54 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r15931 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/FuBar_NameToggleFu.toc: |
16:03.54 | CIA-17 | FuBar_NameToggleFu: |
16:03.55 | CIA-17 | - added ## X-Category: Interface Enhancements to TOC |
16:05.45 | CIA-17 | 03neriak * r15932 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/FuBar_MicroMenuFu.toc: |
16:05.45 | CIA-17 | FuBar_MicroMenuFu: |
16:05.45 | CIA-17 | - fixed typo in ## X-Category: Interface Enhancements, now listed correctly in FuBar |
16:06.32 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15933 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-koKR.lua: FuBar_BagFu - update koKR |
16:07.54 | Amadeo | is that a good video, [Liquidor]? |
16:08.17 | [Liquidor] | No it's lame but that's why I posted it here |
16:08.27 | [Liquidor] | A mage playing with +stamina gear and thinks he's good etc |
16:08.30 | Amadeo | oh |
16:08.35 | [Liquidor] | defending himself when ppl talks about his gear |
16:09.06 | Amadeo | hehe |
16:09.21 | Amadeo | hyperChimpmunk has 7000 HP |
16:09.26 | Amadeo | on his Hunter! |
16:09.42 | [Liquidor] | Well he's a hunter |
16:09.47 | [Liquidor] | a mage should not go for that much hp |
16:10.22 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15934 10FuBar_LocationFu/FuBar_LocationFu.toc: FuBar_LocationFu - add notes-koKR |
16:10.39 | arkanes | 3 minute wonder mages only need enough mana for 2 pyros and a poly :P |
16:11.15 | Amadeo | he seems halfway decent, he's not great though |
16:11.39 | Amadeo | his damage sucks |
16:11.42 | Amadeo | for his gear |
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16:23.31 | `-FISKER_Q | anyone know what email is used for on the forums? |
16:23.34 | mjc_ | nice, getting 1030KB/s from kernel.org on my mac pro :) |
16:23.54 | Uruloke | hmm... with AceComm-2.0 you only need to do a :RegisterComm(prefix, dist) to be able to use :SendCommMessage(dist, msg). Correct? |
16:25.06 | Saroz | pastamancer, poke |
16:25.38 | Uruloke | Reason I ask is because if I do that I get an error from AceComm when I try to send message: AceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua:208: bad argument #1 to `gsub' (string expected, got nil) |
16:25.42 | usz | Uruloke, you also need SetCommPrefix |
16:26.07 | usz | as as you can see SendCommMessage doesnt accept prefix parameter |
16:26.18 | Uruloke | usz: Hmm, when I do that it says "Cannot call 'SetCommPrefix' more than once" even though I only call it once |
16:26.21 | usz | so before using it, you have to set prefix with SetCommPrefix(prefix) function |
16:26.53 | usz | hmmm |
16:27.00 | Kirkburn | priblet58 |
16:27.01 | usz | its true that you set it once and only once |
16:27.06 | Kirkburn | Ach |
16:27.16 | Kirkburn | nvm me :) |
16:27.59 | Uruloke | I got this in OnEnable: self:RegisterComm(self.commPrefix, "GROUP") |
16:27.59 | Uruloke | <PROTECTED> |
16:28.26 | usz | almost good, but move SetCommPrefix to OnInitialize ^^ |
16:28.45 | usz | as OnEnable can be called multiple times if your addon is switched to standby mode and back |
16:29.01 | Uruloke | hmm, still get: AceComm-2.0: Cannot call `SetCommPrefix' more than once. |
16:29.24 | usz | just check if you didnt leave some old code somewhere |
16:30.26 | Uruloke | nope, no old code like so |
16:30.34 | phyber | Uruloke: because you already set the prefix in RegisterComm? |
16:30.48 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07dev * r15940 10Interview/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Interview: Flattened the dewdrop menu and removed some debugging |
16:31.26 | Uruloke | phyber: Well, if I don't do SetCommPrefix I get an error from SendCommMessage about the prefix |
16:31.28 | usz | phyber, that might be, i always used to SetCommPrefix before using RegisterComm so didnt think of it |
16:32.02 | sylvanaar | Uruloke: what are you doing ? |
16:32.27 | Uruloke | trying to set up communication over the GROUP distribution |
16:32.40 | sylvanaar | Uruloke: you can look at the Interview code |
16:33.17 | sylvanaar | Uruloke: but did you use the example from teh wiki? |
16:33.26 | Uruloke | I did yes |
16:33.43 | sylvanaar | if you did, then i bet i know whats wrong |
16:33.49 | Uruloke | Ooh? |
16:33.53 | usz | Uruloke, how are you sending message i mean how does the line looks like with call to SendCommMessage |
16:34.18 | Uruloke | self:SendCommMessage("GROUP", "DRAWLINE", unpack(args), self.optColor) |
16:34.19 | sylvanaar | local commPrefix = "Interview" |
16:34.42 | sylvanaar | where is yours stored? |
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16:34.49 | Uruloke | addon.commPrefix |
16:35.10 | sylvanaar | lose the addon. |
16:35.34 | usz | well line 208 of ace comm tries to encode args, so it seems like prefix is fine, but problem is with args |
16:35.45 | sylvanaar | do what i said |
16:35.50 | Uruloke | I tried with only the DRAWLINE arg |
16:36.09 | sylvanaar | change it to remove the 'addon.' part |
16:36.15 | Uruloke | sylvanaar: That did it! Thanks! |
16:36.46 | sylvanaar | welcome |
16:37.15 | usz | ow now i see, AceComm internaly uses addon.commPrefix ^^ |
16:37.30 | Uruloke | Right |
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16:39.00 | sylvanaar | yeah, worst bug ever - took me a while to fix |
16:39.40 | usz | heh, i didnt put comm prefix in any var so avoided this problem, still strange that mixins use so simple vars for internal tasks |
16:39.53 | usz | because its very easy to accidently have name clash |
16:40.07 | sylvanaar | its not even an accident |
16:40.15 | sylvanaar | its the sample code in the wikki |
16:40.34 | usz | ah yes |
16:40.44 | usz | now if i recall it, i might have had same problem |
16:40.45 | usz | ^^ |
16:40.47 | Uruloke | should update the wiki |
16:41.02 | sylvanaar | yeah |
16:41.06 | [Liquidor] | Don't you just love to play battlegrounds with people not speaking prober English? Or even understanding it? |
16:41.06 | usz | well the code is actually correct |
16:41.17 | [Liquidor] | him "please help me" |
16:41.21 | [Liquidor] | me "with what?" |
16:41.27 | [Liquidor] | him "a tree" |
16:41.33 | [Liquidor] | me "walk around it?" |
16:41.35 | usz | as it sets prefix just via addon.commPrefix = "Prefix", which is way to go around SetCommPrefix to actually set prefix ^^ |
16:41.37 | [Liquidor] | him "anyone?" |
16:41.48 | [Liquidor] | me "What do you need help with?" |
16:41.53 | Uruloke | usz: But as we've just seen it doesn't set it correctly |
16:41.57 | [Liquidor] | him "help me zommon tree" |
16:42.08 | [Liquidor] | me "Is the ARch druid there?" |
16:42.12 | [Liquidor] | him "plz help?" |
16:42.15 | sylvanaar | you have to call the method |
16:42.17 | [Liquidor] | and so on |
16:42.22 | [Liquidor] | gotta love it :> |
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16:42.39 | Uruloke | Hehe |
16:42.45 | [Liquidor] | Now he stands down there clicking a dead baecon |
16:42.50 | usz | ah yes, just looked at SetCommPrefix code and setting prefix requires few more actions to be fully performed |
16:43.56 | sylvanaar | i was on here asking about it for hours when i started writing Interview |
16:44.23 | usz | heh, well i found 3 or 4 bugs while writting TooltipExchange |
16:44.44 | usz | i lost like 5h to find out GUILD comm wasnt registering CHAT_MSG_ADDON event... |
16:44.58 | sylvanaar | its not? |
16:45.02 | JoshBork1 | lol |
16:45.11 | JoshBork1 | yea, usz found the bugs just before i did |
16:45.16 | pb_ee1 | Is there a way to duplicate a table without going through a for ... do ... end ? |
16:45.24 | JoshBork1 | pb_ee1: no |
16:45.34 | usz | still there is one more issue i have with AceComm |
16:45.40 | Uruloke | what's that? |
16:45.43 | pb_ee1 | I tried to do table1 = table2 but it only makes a pointer xD |
16:45.50 | usz | as it doesnt have standard behaviour for self sent messages |
16:45.52 | pb_ee1 | JoshBork1: thanks |
16:46.17 | Uruloke | What do you mean? |
16:46.20 | JoshBork1 | usz: it's supposed to ignore them |
16:46.21 | usz | self messages from CHAT_MSG_ADDON doesnt rise events, while from channels they do |
16:46.21 | sylvanaar | what are you using it for/ |
16:46.27 | usz | JoshBork1, i know |
16:46.37 | usz | but i would like it to ignore all or none ^^ |
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16:46.53 | usz | or even i would like to have option to set if i want to get own messages or not |
16:47.06 | usz | as in code its only: if sender == player then return end... |
16:47.11 | JoshBork1 | i think it should be an option |
16:47.26 | sylvanaar | I use ace events to send data |
16:47.41 | usz | sylvanaar, between clients? |
16:47.51 | sylvanaar | both |
16:48.31 | sylvanaar | local and remote |
16:48.57 | usz | hmmm, without AceComm? |
16:49.07 | sylvanaar | with acecomm |
16:50.02 | sylvanaar | Intervew will let you register for ace events on remote machines |
16:50.03 | usz | well i trigger comm module and receive data from it via events aswell |
16:50.19 | usz | ow that way |
16:51.31 | sylvanaar | I use an event to trigger myself to send an addon message |
16:52.57 | CIA-17 | 03pb_ee1 * r15941 10ChatLog/ (. ChatLog.lua ChatLog.toc): |
16:52.57 | CIA-17 | ChatLog: Removed AceDB-2.0 & bug fix. |
16:52.57 | CIA-17 | - Removed using AceDB-2.0 because I couldn't do what I wanted with it. |
16:52.57 | CIA-17 | - Fixed a bug where ChatLog would not properly reset after pressing the "Reset" button (thanks to sKOO-somthin'). |
16:52.57 | CIA-17 | - Changed the name of the SavedVariables. |
16:52.58 | CIA-17 | - Your saved logs will be deleted after this update (not in the files though). |
16:53.28 | sylvanaar | usz: what did you mean? |
16:54.54 | sbu | pb_ee1: uhm chatlog... that button next to my chatbox disappeared ~1 week ago and didnt come back - is there a way to open the log/config-window? |
16:55.12 | pb_ee1 | . /clog |
16:55.18 | pb_ee1 | . /clog toggle* even |
16:55.19 | sylvanaar | usz: did you want an event to fire after you sent the data? |
16:55.30 | `-FISKER_Q | lol |
16:55.41 | sbu | ahhhh |
16:55.43 | sbu | clog - nice |
16:55.50 | sbu | because 'chatlog' tells me something about disabled function |
16:56.02 | `-FISKER_Q | looks like Cloak of Shadow(+90% spell resistance) also applies on "No mans land"(a debuff designed to keep people out of unfinished areas) |
16:56.02 | `-FISKER_Q | :D |
16:56.05 | pb_ee1 | . /clog resetbutton should reset the button position ;) |
16:56.21 | kergoth | `-FISKER_Q: hah |
16:56.42 | nevcairiel | where do you get that cloak? :o |
16:56.52 | `-FISKER_Q | it's a new rogue spell |
16:56.55 | `-FISKER_Q | or abillity |
16:56.56 | pb_ee1 | sbu: Yep, actually /chatlog is a Blizzard's UI function. I disabled it because you can enable it in ChatLog (and you should or it will not save this parameter between logins) |
16:56.56 | `-FISKER_Q | :P |
16:56.57 | nevcairiel | ah. |
16:57.04 | nevcairiel | stupid rogues |
16:57.05 | nevcairiel | :D |
16:57.18 | `-FISKER_Q | :( |
16:57.51 | pb_ee1 | sbu: I couldn't make my own function with /chatlog as I could before. Dunno why, but Ace2 doesn't want me to do it ;p |
16:57.52 | Mikma | is Grid sticky in forums? |
16:58.01 | sylvanaar | hmm...i register for PARTY, RAID, and GUILD - that must be why i havent seen the bug for GUILD |
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16:58.58 | haste | hehe |
16:59.13 | haste | one person says HOT? in the gchat, and three people reply with "DICKINGS!" |
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16:59.38 | haste | ~dr. tran |
16:59.40 | purl | 3, 2, 1... Dr Tran! |
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17:02.20 | Uruloke | GetNumRaidMembers() is the same for regular raids as for battlegrounds, right? |
17:02.57 | usz | sylvanaar, GUILD is fixed for a long time now |
17:03.09 | sylvanaar | usz: oh ok |
17:03.21 | usz | i use myself GUILD or CUSTOM |
17:03.45 | sylvanaar | usz: what does your mod do? |
17:04.02 | Mi|es | holy crap. BWL run with 10 buyers = win |
17:04.12 | CIA-17 | 03cwdg * r15942 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames-zhCN.lua ag_UnitFrames.toc): ag_UnitFrames: Update zhCN local. |
17:04.15 | usz | its item database, by item i mean full item with tooltip data |
17:04.18 | JoshBork1 | lol |
17:04.22 | JoshBork1 | how much you make? |
17:04.29 | Mi|es | 9460, nef to go |
17:04.35 | Mi|es | ~300 each |
17:04.46 | usz | it uses comm for searching items over all clients connected to given Comm |
17:04.53 | nevcairiel | nice |
17:04.57 | JoshBork1 | NICE! |
17:05.19 | usz | then if you find some items that are invalid on your side, it transfers full item data and allows tooltip rebuilding on other side |
17:05.36 | usz | this way i walk around problem with browsing invalid items |
17:05.39 | haste | Mi|es: doing a MC cash run now, but sucky drops all the way :( |
17:06.29 | haste | usually get around ~5500g per MC run |
17:06.37 | Mi|es | yea, got that till chrom. but then rogues/hunters went crazy, 2k + 2k for 2 items |
17:06.55 | haste | a guild on our server sold Nef's head for 2500g |
17:07.05 | haste | which is pretty insane for a 100% drop :p |
17:07.32 | sylvanaar | usz: does it have a 'light' mode or is it always databas+comm+ui |
17:08.24 | usz | sylvanaar, well no, i cant imagine light version with such search capabilities |
17:08.41 | sylvanaar | usz: orcould you have a light client which could answer only |
17:08.43 | Amadeo | argh, what's the point of cold medicine if they don't even work? :P |
17:08.55 | usz | anyway UI is created on first opening |
17:09.11 | usz | as its CreateFrame based ^^ |
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17:09.37 | sylvanaar | usz: ah, was trying to see if it would make sense as an Interview module |
17:09.43 | CIA-17 | 03mcc * r15943 10RangeRecolor/ (Locale.zhtw.lua RangeRecolor.toc): RangeRecolor: added Chinese Traditional translation |
17:09.51 | Mikma | translation |
17:09.54 | usz | sylvanaar, so you ask for client with no local DB, yes? |
17:09.54 | Mikma | for addon like that? |
17:11.06 | haste | tekcub: your duratek add on doesn't have a SV defined in the TOC. |
17:11.09 | sylvanaar | usz: no ui is really what i was after |
17:12.01 | haste | Can someone commit and fix that :D ? |
17:12.08 | haste | I'm not able to do a checkout atm |
17:12.14 | Mikma | haste: what |
17:12.26 | haste | Mikma: add: ## SavedVariables: DuraTek |
17:12.29 | haste | Mikma: to DuraTek :p |
17:12.53 | Mikma | is it branch or trunk |
17:12.57 | usz | sylvanaar, well the way how i separated modules atm is something like: core (with UI driven by events), scanner module (triggers item seen events), comm module (fully event driven comm), item storage lib |
17:13.16 | Amadeo | Anyone in the Vanguard beta? |
17:14.24 | sylvanaar | usz: im trying to combine all the client side syncing into a modular framework - i made a post on the forums, for several reasons i think its a good idea - not many people seem to agree |
17:14.30 | usz | sylvanaar, still this is heavy memory mod, because as every client receives every search, its optimized for fast searching, not minimal possible memory usage |
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17:16.08 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r15944 10FuBar_DuraTek/FuBar_DuraTek.toc: FuBar_DuraTek: Added missing SV. Bad Tekkub! |
17:16.13 | usz | sylvanaar, make general framework for shared data storage over comm ^^ thing that JoshBorke and me could use :) |
17:17.00 | sylvanaar | usz: its just data sharing right now |
17:17.37 | usz | well what i mean is that all clients share same core data and modify it etc and its being synched over channel and resolves data change conficts |
17:18.49 | usz | anyway i will implement some mechanics for it, as i made something i called Memo lists (user defined item lists) and want to introduce Shared Memo lists, that are visible to everyone via comm and are being able to be modified by all |
17:19.18 | CIA-17 | 03neriak 07Neriak * r15945 10gfxToggle/gfxToggle/ (3 files): |
17:19.18 | CIA-17 | gfxToggle: |
17:19.18 | CIA-17 | - fixed menu for FuBarPlugin, it's gettin' shiny. |
17:19.26 | sylvanaar | usz: has the same adoption problems tho that i wrote Intervew to help solve |
17:20.32 | haste | haha, someone just raised with 500 :p |
17:20.38 | neriak | zomg, how i love the fubarplugin :) |
17:20.44 | haste | warrior with Core hound tooth :p |
17:20.50 | usz | Oo |
17:22.52 | haste | why would a warrior buy Core Hound Tooth? |
17:23.10 | usz | cuz he aint got better DPS weapon and got loads of ebayed gold? |
17:23.20 | Tain | When you first start in MC it's still one of the better weapons a warrior is going to find. |
17:23.25 | Tain | IT doesn't stay that way for long. |
17:23.34 | Tain | But some people do it anyway. |
17:23.47 | haste | they pay gold tho', ebayers all of them |
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17:24.39 | Tain | Yeah well that's how a lot of guilds gain money, letting non-guild people loot stuff that would otherwise go bye bye. |
17:24.49 | Mikma | MAHADEVA! |
17:25.38 | haste | Tain: Yes, that's what we do to sponsor our Naxx raids |
17:26.07 | haste | but I don't see why a warrior would buy core hound tooth, when he can to AQ20 and get a better alternative :) |
17:26.40 | haste | well, I shouldn't complain it's more gold in my pocket |
17:27.38 | phyber | haste: how much gold do you come out with on average? |
17:28.01 | haste | ~250g per main |
17:28.22 | phyber | wow, nice. |
17:28.54 | haste | every fourth raid goes to the guild bank however |
17:31.08 | haste | 215g per main so far this run, but we haven't sold BoE's and killed rag yet |
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17:32.45 | nevcairiel | we didnt get enough buyers last week, sucked :( |
17:33.15 | CIA-17 | 03neriak 07Neriak * r15946 10gfxToggle/gfxToggle/ (gfxToggle-Locale-enUS.lua gfxToggle.lua): |
17:33.15 | CIA-17 | gfxToggle (branch): |
17:33.15 | CIA-17 | - fixed english localization |
17:43.49 | kergoth | damn, grid is sexy |
17:44.00 | CIA-17 | 03cwdg * r15947 10Prat/ (22 files in 2 dirs): Prat: -Add Chinese local. |
17:45.05 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15948 10AoFHeal/ (AoFHeal.lua AoFHeal.toc AoFHeal_locale.lua Bindings.xml): |
17:45.05 | CIA-17 | AoFHeal: |
17:45.05 | CIA-17 | - add koKR, notes-koKR |
17:45.10 | kergoth | hm, grid does take like 150K more ram than perfectraid |
17:45.51 | Kalamadi | I'm sure it's still being optimised |
17:46.11 | sylvanaar | im making a plugin for grid to interface with interview |
17:47.48 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15949 10oTweaks/ (libs/ moredots.lua oTweaks.toc): oTweaks - add koKR, notes-koKR |
17:49.11 | Kalamadi | What does Interview do? >_> |
17:49.52 | sylvanaar | data publish/subscribe modular framework |
17:51.34 | sylvanaar | i just wrote a module that lets you trade macros with people - it has no real ui, its meant to provide data for other addons |
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17:53.05 | Kalamadi | Ah. |
17:53.10 | sylvanaar | Kalamadi: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2896.0 |
17:53.24 | Kalamadi | So, essentially, it's a very efficient data communication framework? |
17:53.50 | sylvanaar | Kalamadi: its acecomm+aceevents |
17:54.23 | Kalamadi | Using the comms to trigger events, then |
17:55.10 | sylvanaar | Kalamadi: it can work in either direction |
17:55.37 | Kalamadi | Neat. |
17:57.31 | sylvanaar | Kalamadi: same thing ora2 does, or bigwigs, but no ui to tie it to |
17:57.45 | haste | phyber: 350g per main this run, 7000 total |
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17:59.04 | Funkeh` | hey all :) |
17:59.06 | haste | http://www.msfirefox.com/ |
17:59.16 | Meiun_ | :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) |
18:01.20 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15950 10AoFHeal/AoFHeal_locale.lua: |
18:01.20 | CIA-17 | AoFHeal: |
18:01.20 | CIA-17 | - sorry miss typo.. |
18:02.10 | Kirkburn | Lol, the link downloads IE7 |
18:02.44 | Kirkburn | This makes me very confused as to the aim of the site |
18:03.47 | haste | haha |
18:06.31 | yacoob | Uhhh. |
18:06.48 | yacoob | Just spent 1h in ST, seeing as various group members say 'oh, I need to go'. |
18:07.04 | yacoob | Don't people actually *think* when responding to grouping requests? :/ |
18:08.01 | yacoob | <flames with hate> |
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18:09.19 | haste | so what should I call my lockpicking add on? |
18:09.44 | Meiun_ | PickMe! |
18:09.52 | haste | good enough :3 |
18:10.06 | Meiun_ | i dont know, i suck at names :f |
18:10.22 | haste | I suck more at names |
18:10.30 | haste | I usually name stuff: oWhatItDoes |
18:10.36 | sylvanaar | how about just 'pick' |
18:10.36 | Meiun_ | just name it oUnlock then ;P |
18:11.09 | phyber | Locksmith |
18:11.20 | *** part/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
18:11.51 | phyber | oIMadeAnUnlockAddonAndAllIGotWasThisCrappyName |
18:12.41 | haste | lo |
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18:12.50 | Meiun_ | oO |
18:13.01 | haste | oSlimJim ! |
18:13.16 | haste | A Slim Jim (more technically known as a lockout tool) is a thin strip of metal (usually spring steel) roughly 60cm long and about 2-4 cm wide originally marketed under that name by HPC Inc., a manufacturer and supplier of specialty locksmithing tools. Slim Jims are used to unlock automobile doors without use of a key or lock pick. |
18:14.09 | sylvanaar | 'pick' |
18:14.28 | sylvanaar | oPick if you must put o |
18:14.43 | haste | I just like tagging my add ons, nothing more :p |
18:15.00 | haste | but I've had this one in my tinypad for quite some time now, and I extended it to trade also |
18:15.07 | haste | so why not release it also |
18:15.35 | sylvanaar | well then how about 'oPen' |
18:16.01 | haste | hey, that one was clever! |
18:17.43 | haste | so now I'm stuck with: oPen or oKey |
18:18.09 | phyber | oPen |
18:18.32 | Funkeh` | whats the different between FuBar_TradeCDFu FuBar_tcgTradeskills |
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18:18.53 | haste | oPen it is! |
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18:25.17 | Gamefaq|afk | vhaarr: Ping |
18:25.26 | vhaarr | Gamefaq|afk: pong |
18:25.54 | Gamefaq|afk | you fixed the error i reported yesterday... |
18:26.35 | pastamancer | Saroz: ? |
18:27.09 | vhaarr | Gamefaq|afk: excellent |
18:27.29 | Saroz | nevermind pastamancer, posted in grid thread |
18:27.31 | haste | I should make it check if you have enough skill also |
18:27.45 | Saroz | pastamancer, have you performance tested grid in a raid? |
18:27.48 | Saroz | a real raid :p |
18:27.53 | Funkeh` | could someone be really nice and fix the externals for FuBar_tcgTradeskills ? its only including acedebug but it needs some other ones also |
18:28.02 | Saroz | all these status events and stuff seems expensive, but clever |
18:28.24 | pastamancer | I've been raiding with Grid for several weeks |
18:28.58 | Saroz | okay |
18:29.19 | Saroz | I like how you handled the status thingie |
18:29.22 | Saroz | with priority and stuff |
18:29.50 | pastamancer | that seemed like the right way to do things |
18:30.03 | Saroz | yea, gonna ninja it :p |
18:30.24 | pastamancer | :) |
18:30.48 | Angeris | so,you ninja stuff everywhere,not only in the game...ok |
18:30.55 | Saroz | yea |
18:30.57 | Saroz | born ninja |
18:31.27 | pastamancer | going to use it for sRaidFrames I assume? |
18:31.30 | Saroz | ye |
18:31.47 | Angeris | too bad you dont have a beta key to test it :P |
18:31.54 | Saroz | dont need a key to test this part |
18:32.07 | Angeris | oh,ok |
18:32.21 | Angeris | you still dont have a beta key tho :P |
18:32.27 | Saroz | nope |
18:32.37 | Saroz | Hopeing to get one this week |
18:32.47 | Angeris | and you are in blackwing lair atm,some1 must be screaming for healing |
18:32.55 | Saroz | broodlord trash :p |
18:32.58 | Saroz | I'm on follow |
18:33.02 | Angeris | kek |
18:33.06 | Angeris | im quoting! |
18:33.13 | Saroz | PUGs want epix, pugs have to do the work |
18:33.27 | Angeris | you won a cloak last time |
18:33.30 | Funkeh` | anyone? ;p |
18:33.33 | Saroz | yea, was sweet |
18:33.37 | Angeris | if i remember correctly |
18:33.40 | Saroz | mage in plate |
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18:52.02 | Amadeo | That Vanguard movie looks pretty cool and very disappointing at the same time |
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18:53.53 | Amadeo | look at the framerate on the lead developers computer |
18:53.55 | Amadeo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTgLj5VmWPU |
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18:56.25 | Industrial | lol |
18:56.26 | Industrial | owned |
18:56.30 | Industrial | next game! |
18:56.37 | Industrial | (battlefield 2142?) |
18:56.42 | Industrial | (or w/e |
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18:57.26 | Industrial | this one http://www.torrentz.com/torrent_1051017.html |
18:57.27 | Industrial | :P |
18:57.44 | Amadeo | Vanguard has cool ideas though |
18:57.48 | Amadeo | no instancing at all |
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18:57.55 | Amadeo | dungeons are supposed to be big enough for everyone |
18:58.06 | Industrial | hm |
18:58.20 | Tain | The reason everyone went to instancing is because that doesn't work well. |
18:58.32 | Amadeo | Tain: They went to instancing because they couldn't figure out how to do it without lag |
18:58.37 | Amadeo | it was always about performance |
18:58.45 | Amadeo | Unfortunately, you look at that video...it lags :P |
18:58.55 | Tain | No, it was about people fighting over the same limited real estate. |
18:58.59 | pastamancer | Amadeo: you apparently never spent a lot of time in lower guk |
18:59.06 | Amadeo | Actually I did |
18:59.09 | Amadeo | I beta tested EverQuest |
18:59.20 | pastamancer | camp checks and trains sucked ass |
18:59.21 | Amadeo | early EQ dungeons were tiny |
18:59.29 | Amadeo | imagine if you expanded the size of Lower Guk by 200x |
18:59.44 | Tain | Of course EQ never thought people would actually sit in one spot and camp spawns. |
18:59.48 | Amadeo | haha |
18:59.53 | Amadeo | They made us do that though |
19:00.05 | Tain | Well yeah that's what it ended up being. |
19:00.07 | pastamancer | they should have known it would happen to sebilis and velks |
19:00.52 | Tain | It depended on the server though. Some places Velks was always empty because hardly anyone went there. |
19:01.01 | Amadeo | but that's the idea behind it...the dungeon being big enough that you don't fight over places |
19:01.04 | Tain | Seb just got stupid, like lGuk and SolB. |
19:01.28 | Amadeo | EQ instances were all about lag, not about real estate...because there was a zone, but everyone could go in it |
19:03.46 | Tain | I never had serious lag in EQ dungeons. Only when you had 50-100 people in the same room. |
19:04.12 | Tain | It wasn't the lag, it was the fact that there were a limited number of spawns and static spawns that people wanted. |
19:04.15 | pastamancer | that was from the rendering engine >< |
19:04.33 | CIA-17 | 03wmrojer * r15953 10TradeskillInfo/ (6 files): TradeskillInfo: Restored official version. All unathorized changes rolled back |
19:04.56 | CIA-17 | 03wmrojer * r15954 10TradeskillInfo/RecipeDataLib.lua: TradeskillInfo: Restored official version. All unathorized changes rolled back |
19:05.02 | Tain | It still amazed me how long it took them to think through things though. New items or spells that were game breaking too often. |
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19:05.21 | Amadeo | Tain: I remember zones crashing with 100 people in them in EQ |
19:05.29 | Tain | Paladins had a silence spell for like 2 days until they realized they could render so many encounters trivial. |
19:05.30 | Amadeo | So I dunno when you're speaking of :P |
19:05.52 | Tain | Complete Heal Cleric breastplate for free |
19:06.08 | Tain | Hell even Jaundice Bone Bracer was a bad idea, although not game-breaking. |
19:06.10 | pastamancer | surely gfaymart or the ec tunnel would have more htan 100 people during prime-time |
19:06.20 | CIA-17 | 03wmrojer * r15955 10TradeskillInfoUI/ (5 files): TradeskillInfoUI: Restored official version. All unathorized changes rolled back |
19:06.26 | Amadeo | Kael Drakkal crashed like 15 times when we had 120 people in it |
19:07.51 | Tain | As long as it's not static spawns of specific drops it's fine to have one big dungeon. |
19:08.18 | Tain | But as soon as you make anyone part of it something people want it causes conflict. |
19:09.01 | Tain | And I am so far past fighting other people for spawns in a game. |
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19:09.40 | Kalamadi | FFXI, anyone? |
19:10.01 | Tain | No, but I'm playing FF XII as we speak. |
19:10.15 | Kalamadi | ... |
19:10.48 | Uruloke | If you use ... as an function argument what variable will it be put in? I thought it was arg or args |
19:11.03 | Tain | I like FFXI, I think it has a lot going for it. But it's far too much work to develop a character for me. |
19:11.10 | Amadeo | Tain: I hate fighting for content, it's the worst thing about MMOGs |
19:11.23 | Kalamadi | FFXI has nothing going for it. It's all about camping spawns and standing around with your thumb up your ass |
19:11.42 | Amadeo | Tain: Remember in EQ, how the major guilds would have schedules to kill raid boss-type encounters? Some guilds didn't care and killed them all anyway |
19:12.26 | Tain | Amadeo I started on Veeshan. We had to try to fight FoH for every single encounter every time they reset. |
19:12.38 | Amadeo | heh |
19:12.48 | Amadeo | I'm still amazed that Foror works for Blizzard |
19:12.55 | Tain | Which basically meant we got what they left over. |
19:12.56 | Amadeo | he exploited and was banned a bunch of times |
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19:13.04 | Tain | Of course he was. |
19:13.35 | Amadeo | I also heard that Brad led a raid once and drowned underwater |
19:13.40 | Amadeo | his GM flag was off so people looted him |
19:14.22 | Tain | I don't think anyone looted him. He supposedly forgot to turn on his invulnerability. I didn't see it but it wwas all over when it happened. |
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19:14.27 | Amadeo | haha |
19:14.47 | Amadeo | I really never liked him, but I loved EQ at the time :) |
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19:14.59 | Amadeo | I liked Smedley until he went to SoE |
19:15.34 | Tain | I actually think he kept EQ in check. When Brad left (was pushed out, whatever) I think it went crazy. |
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19:15.43 | mjc | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/e_to_the_pi_times_i.png |
19:15.48 | Amadeo | Tain: I think that was just SoE's doing |
19:15.54 | Amadeo | I imagine the same for Vanguard |
19:16.10 | Amadeo | Brad said he'd never go with SOE when Microsoft was backing them |
19:16.17 | Amadeo | now SOE is the publisher and has taken over |
19:16.37 | Tain | Yeah the Penny Arcade comic about it was hilarious. |
19:17.22 | Amadeo | I think I saw that a while back |
19:17.39 | Amadeo | IGN apparently did an article about Vanguard and said: |
19:17.43 | Amadeo | "Very few other companies are more familiar with the market than Sony Online Entertainment having pushed out titles in the EverQuest series, PlanetSide, and Galaxies. They also quiety took control of the Sigil project, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes." |
19:19.02 | Amadeo | I hope it goes over well though |
19:19.03 | Amadeo | I like competition |
19:19.32 | Amadeo | but as much as I complain about WoW...seeing these other games coming out...it makes me realize how good WoW really is :P |
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19:21.50 | nevcairiel | I *hate* people who use Bossmods which *do not* use the *** around the annoucnes .... |
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19:25.10 | Azurewrath | hehe, got my whole guild to switch to BigWigs :) |
19:25.33 | sylvanaar | get them to keep it updated |
19:25.44 | Azurewrath | i force them to ;) |
19:25.47 | sylvanaar | then tell me how you did |
19:26.07 | haste | I did the same |
19:26.18 | Amadeo | haste holds a random member hostage with a sharpened spork |
19:26.20 | haste | but it was more like: Hey, you should try this addon: Bigwigs, really great |
19:26.22 | haste | voila |
19:26.44 | Azurewrath | same for me.. the only hard part is the updating |
19:26.58 | sylvanaar | i have to constanly check - people are still using <9000 builds |
19:27.49 | Azurewrath | 12xxx for me.. i've built 7z package for them that i update daily |
19:28.18 | Azurewrath | so when there are really important changes.. like changed timers or sth. i tell them to upgrade |
19:28.53 | sylvanaar | i post links in our forum to the right versions and tell them -but they dont all do it |
19:29.49 | Azurewrath | sylvanaar: well, i guess every guild has some 'special candidates'.. i just use the Version Query Feature then and tell them inGame.. else the raid won't start or something ;) |
19:30.40 | sylvanaar | yeah, its like our MT and some raidleaders |
19:31.03 | sylvanaar | with the oldest versions |
19:31.40 | Azurewrath | mhm.. helps to be an officer in that case i guess |
19:32.18 | Kalamadi | In my guild, you lose DKP if you don't have CTRA and KTM installed -_- |
19:32.37 | Azurewrath | oh btw. nevcairiel.. any chance to provide me with the patch link? Still at 99.4%.. started it over four times now, extracted the torrent again, used the original blizz thingie.. nothing works. |
19:32.47 | sylvanaar | KTM needs to DIAF |
19:32.52 | haste | Kalamadi: haha, glad I'm not in your guild :D |
19:32.57 | CIA-17 | 03otravi * r15956 10oPen/ (. libs/ moredots.lua oPen.toc): |
19:32.57 | CIA-17 | oPen: |
19:32.57 | CIA-17 | - Initial import. |
19:32.57 | CIA-17 | - Small add on to open lockboxes with the click of the mouse, while trading or in the bags. |
19:32.57 | CIA-17 | - Untested and drycoded. |
19:33.04 | haste | someone test that |
19:33.23 | Azurewrath | gimme a rogue ;p |
19:33.28 | Kalamadi | I'm so angry. Other healers in the guild use CTRA emergency monitor to heal and I take the flak when tanks die |
19:34.41 | Kalamadi | Oh well. They're going to be up the creek without a paddle once the next patch comes |
19:34.58 | Gtyrte | Nice patch :D |
19:35.22 | sylvanaar | Kalamadi: what do you use to heal? |
19:35.27 | Kalamadi | Grid. Nothing else. |
19:35.59 | Gtyrte | Can I ask what grid is? Or what it do. |
19:36.17 | Kalamadi | http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=Grid/ |
19:36.19 | Kalamadi | Raidframes. |
19:36.32 | sylvanaar | I use ct raid frames arranged in a grid with click-casting enabled |
19:36.59 | Kalamadi | Grid's already working in TBC. |
19:37.16 | kergoth | grid is sexy |
19:37.16 | Saroz | Xuerian, WTB "multiline" option for linking loot, and option to show money when multiline |
19:37.19 | kergoth | i need to try it in a raid |
19:37.48 | sylvanaar | i like grid too |
19:38.47 | Gtyrte | hmm, anyone know differences bewteen sraidframes nad grid? |
19:39.57 | Kalamadi | Never used sRF |
19:40.18 | Saroz | diffirence will be minimal come TBC |
19:40.25 | CIA-17 | 03otravi * r15957 10oPen/ (moredots.lua oPen.toc): oPen: Some drycode errors fixed. |
19:40.27 | Saroz | right now, there is a decent amount of diffirences |
19:41.05 | Kalamadi | ... |
19:41.12 | Kalamadi | No, they are and will always be VERY different |
19:41.25 | Saroz | o rly? |
19:42.21 | Kalamadi | sRF mimics CTRA. Grid is its own design. |
19:42.47 | Saroz | it mimics CTRA in looks though |
19:42.54 | Kalamadi | Grid? No. |
19:42.57 | Saroz | I like to think I know which direction I want to take my mod though |
19:43.03 | Saroz | no, sRF ofc |
19:43.30 | kergoth | grid is a completely different interface than ctra, i dont see how you can say they wont be different |
19:43.51 | Saroz | I was referring to functionality |
19:43.58 | axxo | can't i use clique+grid? |
19:44.07 | Saroz | obviously the look will never be the same |
19:44.07 | Kalamadi | axxo: Yeah. |
19:44.19 | Kalamadi | Functionality is very different. Grid is modular. |
19:44.22 | axxo | i must be stupid, where is that readme |
19:44.33 | Saroz | modularity is irelevant to users |
19:44.46 | Amadeo | Who in here plays a Hunter? |
19:44.48 | Amadeo | 60 |
19:44.50 | Kalamadi | Yes. Because users apparently cannot create or delete modules. |
19:44.54 | Saroz | yes |
19:45.01 | Saroz | they simply don't care |
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19:45.22 | Kalamadi | I'm a user and I use oRA modules and BigWigs modules. |
19:45.51 | Saroz | I'll bet you anything that 90% of all oRA and BigWigs users couldn't care less if it was modular |
19:46.13 | Kalamadi | This is like the whole "why don't people use linux?" argument. |
19:46.23 | Saroz | not really |
19:46.29 | Kalamadi | Yes, really. |
19:46.32 | [Liquidor] | Do NOT use Linux ! |
19:46.37 | Saroz | it's just an argument to show modularity is for developers, not users |
19:46.46 | Saroz | users want something that works, they want functionality |
19:46.47 | Kalamadi | Your claim is that people should not and do not care what works beneath the hood |
19:46.56 | Saroz | indeed |
19:46.57 | Amadeo | Eh? People don't use Linux because of the community, everyone knows that :P |
19:46.58 | Xuerian | I'd like to inject here; users may not care if they're modular, but they damn well like the modules that the modularity brings ;) |
19:47.13 | Saroz | ofc Xuerian |
19:47.19 | Saroz | but they don't credit modularity |
19:47.22 | [Liquidor] | I'm a model too |
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19:47.30 | Xuerian | I didn't say they did. |
19:47.30 | Saroz | they simply expect it to be there, they don't care how or why it got there |
19:47.35 | Saroz | I know |
19:47.46 | [Liquidor] | I'm a very HAWT model infact. |
19:48.05 | Kalamadi | Then why not explain in layman's terms why modularity is important for the user, hmm? |
19:48.06 | [Liquidor] | So if you happen to be female go modulary me ! |
19:48.33 | Kalamadi | That's the whole argument behind my "linux" dive. |
19:48.42 | [Liquidor] | Do NOT use Linux. |
19:48.58 | Kalamadi | [Liquidor]: Be quiet. |
19:49.00 | Xuerian | Kalamadi: Without modularity, windows would not be able to install new programs. Have new drivers. |
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19:49.13 | [Liquidor] | Just spamming a little before rebooting. |
19:49.19 | [Liquidor] | Rebooting can be SO borring. |
19:49.23 | Kalamadi | Xuerian: I'm not talking literally, I'm talking figuratively |
19:49.28 | [Liquidor] | Even though it only takes 1 minute top |
19:49.41 | Worf | why do you reboot then? :) |
19:49.45 | Xuerian | I guess I missed the reason figurative modularity is important in any scope then, my bad :) |
19:50.00 | [Liquidor] | Alterac Valley has screwed up my RAM fo rnow. |
19:50.06 | [Liquidor] | 3 days of AV* |
19:50.26 | Kalamadi | Use a memory freeing application >_> |
19:50.29 | Kalamadi | CachemanXP |
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19:51.02 | Kalamadi | My uptime on my windows box is measured in weeks |
19:51.08 | Kalamadi | (Linux, in months, regardless) |
19:51.16 | Worf | oh... well, i just recommend that you get some sleep 1-2 x per week... and you can turn off your box while doing that, too :D |
19:51.17 | Saroz | hrrm, lemme check my box |
19:51.30 | Saroz | $ uptime |
19:51.31 | Saroz | <PROTECTED> |
19:51.42 | Saroz | stupid power cut |
19:52.03 | Kalamadi | My laptop's been up ever since I stopped recompiling the kernel |
19:52.17 | [Liquidor] | Is that 169 days without a shutdown? |
19:52.23 | Kalamadi | And my PC's been up since after I had to test if a wireless card worked |
19:52.34 | Xuerian | Ayep, [Liquidor]. |
19:52.47 | [Liquidor] | Don't you ever get software that requires rebooting? |
19:53.04 | Amadeo | Windows systems are stable these days if you want them to be, it's the shoddy software installed that breaks things |
19:53.15 | Gtyrte | hmm, 40 man, grid takes less space than 20 man with sRF. |
19:53.18 | [Liquidor] | Or do you got like several programs on-hold 'till you finally reboot and then being capable of using em? :> |
19:53.20 | Xuerian | [Liquidor]: That's really not the case with linux... |
19:53.28 | Worf | [Liquidor]: sure... when you upgrade the kernel you gotta reboot... but that's mostly the only reason for reboots |
19:53.51 | [Liquidor] | Sorry, but "kernel" is a foreign word to me :-/ |
19:53.59 | Kalamadi | Kernel = linux buzzword |
19:54.00 | Xuerian | "Core" |
19:54.03 | kergoth | i reboot my linux boxes every few months if its a workstation to ensure its kernel is current. servers, 1 year + |
19:54.08 | kergoth | Kalamadi: uh, that's a load of crap. |
19:54.09 | [Liquidor] | Could as well just say "linux" to some extend :) |
19:54.10 | kergoth | windows has a kernel |
19:54.13 | Kalamadi | Ssssh |
19:54.35 | [Liquidor] | Do NOT use Linux. |
19:54.35 | Kalamadi | Yeah, and I was being sarcastic. Christ -_- |
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19:55.17 | Worf | measured by that you would have to only reboot Windows every 3-4 years... because that is the frequency they upgrade the kernel, right? :) |
19:55.18 | [Liquidor] | Oh well gotta reboot. Got some ideas of an addon/lib to do when I get back in a min. |
19:55.20 | kergoth | sorry, the amount of idiotic trolling in here is overwhelming |
19:55.47 | Worf | sorry :) |
19:56.02 | haste | [Liquidor]: why not? |
19:56.10 | [Liquidor] | You know kergoth, the only reason I say "Do NOT use Linux." is because I'm not wise enough to use it :-/ |
19:56.21 | nevcairiel | agUF needs a pvp-flag indicator :( |
19:56.38 | Saroz | it has one |
19:56.46 | kergoth | right, since clearly that's so logical. i'll start telling people not to become rocket scientists, because i might have difficulty being one |
19:56.47 | nevcairiel | it has? |
19:56.49 | Saroz | yea |
19:56.51 | nevcairiel | where? |
19:56.52 | packetlss | are there a branch/rag on the SVN where 2.0 compatible addon are stored? |
19:56.52 | Saroz | PVP symbol |
19:56.55 | Saroz | dunno, it's there |
19:57.02 | sylvanaar | frankly i dont enjoy linux, everything is a chore to do unless i write code to do it and I dont always want to |
19:57.03 | [Liquidor] | kergoth: don't make it into something it isn't :) |
19:57.16 | Saroz | Linux owns for servers, not so much for desktops |
19:57.34 | [Liquidor] | Brb |
19:57.35 | kergoth | right, i'll only make it what it is. someone with no clue about something making blind assertions about it |
19:57.52 | nevcairiel | i dont see any pvp icon on my agUF playerframe |
19:58.17 | Saroz | maybe your style doesnt have it |
19:58.20 | Xuerian | snurre-: =O |
19:58.27 | Xuerian | snurre-: Bastard. |
19:58.33 | nevcairiel | which style do you use? |
19:58.41 | Saroz | ABF |
19:58.51 | nevcairiel | so do i |
19:58.55 | nevcairiel | weird stuff. |
19:59.03 | Saroz | Mine has a faction flag when I'm PVP enabled |
19:59.05 | Saroz | *shrug* |
19:59.31 | nevcairiel | always had, or recently? |
19:59.42 | Saroz | for like a month |
20:00.04 | nevcairiel | weird |
20:00.19 | Saroz | debug it :p |
20:01.10 | nevcairiel | yeah, MC is perfect for debuging |
20:01.23 | Saroz | yup |
20:01.47 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r15958 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Credits to Nevcairiel |
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20:02.03 | nevcairiel | yay! |
20:02.13 | Saroz | :p |
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20:03.01 | nevcairiel | are you using any branch ? |
20:03.11 | Saroz | nope |
20:03.11 | Saroz | trunk |
20:03.19 | nevcairiel | really weird |
20:03.26 | nevcairiel | i bet i missed that commit in my merge cycle |
20:03.28 | Saroz | |
20:03.28 | Saroz | PVPIcon = { Point = "TOPRIGHT", |
20:03.28 | Saroz | RelativePoint = "TOPRIGHT", |
20:03.28 | Saroz | x = 14, |
20:03.28 | Saroz | y= 2, |
20:03.28 | Saroz | }, |
20:03.32 | Saroz | ABF.lua |
20:03.53 | nevcairiel | my ABF.lua has that |
20:03.56 | nevcairiel | but it doesnt show |
20:04.08 | Saroz | maybe UNIT_FACTION isnt registered |
20:06.51 | nevcairiel | the changes in my branch dont touch anything there |
20:06.53 | nevcairiel | so no idea |
20:07.04 | Saroz | diff it :p |
20:07.08 | nevcairiel | i just did |
20:07.15 | nevcairiel | clean checkout against my branch |
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20:08.23 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r15959 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files): agUF(branch): merged latest trunk changes |
20:08.41 | Saroz | :p |
20:08.51 | nevcairiel | that wasnt the problem |
20:09.16 | nevcairiel | i somehow disabled the option, without knowing that it was there tho :D |
20:09.39 | Saroz | lol |
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20:13.26 | snurre- | damnit, this install is like wow :( |
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20:16.06 | snurre- | ooh, nwn has xml UI |
20:18.09 | haste | only XML? |
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20:19.39 | snurre- | can only see xml and ini files in D:\Games\Neverwinter Nights 2\UI\default |
20:19.41 | Xuerian | It had no UI before. |
20:19.45 | Xuerian | Well... |
20:19.47 | Xuerian | Customizable. |
20:19.55 | snurre- | fonts, images and sfx folders in there too |
20:20.05 | snurre- | so can probably customize it alot yeah |
20:20.10 | Xuerian | Yes, the new ui is customizable, but more to the point, module makers can make their own UI elements that are displayed to the user |
20:21.53 | packetlss | s0lk0RW! |
20:22.12 | Saroz | Xuerian, did you see my WTB? |
20:22.20 | Xuerian | Missed it. |
20:23.24 | Saroz | hang on |
20:24.06 | Saroz | anyway |
20:24.11 | Saroz | was about multiline loot announce |
20:24.20 | Saroz | an option to show each item on it's own line |
20:24.31 | Saroz | or maybe only epix |
20:24.44 | Xuerian | Simple enough |
20:24.50 | Saroz | and option to show money aswell |
20:24.51 | Saroz | yea |
20:24.53 | Xuerian | Geez, i need a suggestion page |
20:25.02 | Saroz | : |
20:25.03 | Saroz | :| |
20:25.22 | Xuerian | Just cause I don't remember it and miranda has no decent irc history plug, lol |
20:25.30 | Saroz | miranda sux :( |
20:25.38 | Xuerian | Not really o_0 |
20:25.53 | Saroz | well, it's been a few years since I used it last :) |
20:26.26 | Xuerian | gotten a good bit better since :P. TabSRMM/ClistModern/AimOSCAR/etc |
20:27.59 | Kemayo | Hey Mikma, what was the "error on load" you mentioned? |
20:28.19 | Xuerian | Ah well. Seriously though, I'm gonna need to find a suggestion/todo page, and trac doesn't seem to fit the bill... Does WoWI have one of those for authors? <.< |
20:29.53 | Kemayo | WoWI portals have a feature suggestions / bug reports page. |
20:30.38 | Xuerian | Might have to up and actually submit XLoot then. |
20:31.05 | Xuerian | That means docs, though.... /twitch |
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20:35.48 | Kemayo | ~seen Mikma |
20:36.08 | purl | mikma is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 134 messages. Is idling for 3h 11m 19s, last said: 'MAHADEVA!'. |
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20:45.06 | vhaarr | o_O level 66 Draenei Hunter. |
20:45.26 | Amadeo | I imagine most of those are premades |
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20:45.43 | JoshBorke | only need 2 weeks to hit 60 right? |
20:45.46 | nymbia | i thought they wiped the premades off |
20:45.50 | vhaarr | yes they did |
20:45.52 | Amadeo | that's not what I mean |
20:45.54 | vhaarr | There are no premades. |
20:45.59 | Amadeo | Blizzard gives out special privledges to people |
20:46.05 | nymbia | ah |
20:46.41 | Amadeo | a new employee was caught making characters on one of the PTR stages that had gear that hadn't even dropped yet |
20:47.10 | Amadeo | well, they said he was a new employee...but I think it was a cover up |
20:47.16 | Amadeo | the guy couldn't even speak proper English |
20:47.23 | Amadeo | sounded like a kid too |
20:47.41 | nymbia | i remember that happening in the ZG patch |
20:48.10 | nymbia | i was doing a ZG pug on the test server and there was some random mage wearing netherwind robes |
20:48.17 | nymbia | and of course BWL wasnt out yet.. |
20:48.21 | Amadeo | haha |
20:48.47 | Amadeo | This guy was in full Naxx gear before anyone had been that far in Naxx |
20:48.56 | Amadeo | and he had every class with that gear |
20:49.03 | nymbia | lol |
20:49.08 | Amadeo | in fact |
20:49.16 | Amadeo | I even followed him around Orgrimmar when he was summoning items |
20:50.02 | Amadeo | I would imagine a lot of the 67's of the new races are similar...but I guess some are just crazy |
20:50.22 | nymbia | yeah lol |
20:50.36 | CIA-17 | 03eternally777 * r15960 10SacredBuff/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
20:50.36 | CIA-17 | SacredBuff: |
20:50.36 | CIA-17 | * Merging changes in the branch to the trunk copy |
20:50.36 | Amadeo | I'd be pretty sad to lose a character like that |
20:54.17 | JoshBorke | why is Grid stickied on the forums? |
20:54.55 | nymbia | cuz it's awesome! ;) |
20:55.06 | haste | Anyone had the chance to test oPen? |
20:55.10 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r15961 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Fixed deformat arg2 is nil error on line 161. |
20:55.24 | Xuerian | oPen? |
20:56.28 | nymbia | "Open lockboxes by just clicking on them, in trade and inventory." |
20:56.30 | Kalamadi | The oPen is stronger than the sword. |
20:56.38 | JoshBorke | MORE DOTS MORE DOTS! |
20:56.38 | nymbia | rogues only then? |
20:56.56 | Xuerian | Something like Jackknife then? |
20:57.01 | Qshadowp[NS] | 9[04JoshBorke9-> 1% wipe -100dkp! |
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20:58.17 | haste | nymbia: yes |
20:58.27 | haste | I can't test it myself :< |
20:58.31 | Xuerian | Wow. Is no one going to tear Qshadowp[NS] into little, tiny peices? |
20:58.37 | nymbia | well then no, i wont test it ;) |
20:58.49 | Qshadowp[NS] | why would you want to tear me into tiny little peices? |
20:58.54 | nymbia | unless they give mages back khadgar's unlocking |
20:58.55 | nymbia | ;) |
20:59.09 | AKX | Btw, how does incremental gc really work? |
20:59.27 | Kalamadi | Qshadowp[NS]: Colors are BAD. BAD! |
20:59.32 | Kalamadi | ~spank Qshadowp[NS] |
20:59.33 | purl | ACTION bends Qshadowp[NS] over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on Qshadowp[NS]'s pasty white buttocks. |
20:59.34 | Qshadowp[NS] | :O |
20:59.41 | Qshadowp[NS] | should i set my monitor to B&W? |
20:59.47 | Xuerian | Purl is c-sexual >.> |
21:00.04 | Xuerian | Or is it asexual. |
21:00.12 | Qshadowp[NS] | btw kudos to who ever wrote the WelcomeHome your first addon thing im reading it now and its really great :> |
21:00.20 | AKX | 4Co7lo8rs 9ca11n b12e useful visual cues in addons though. (And excuse me about that :P) |
21:00.32 | Kalamadi | ... |
21:00.34 | Qshadowp[NS] | yea :D |
21:00.36 | Kalamadi | ~spank AKX |
21:00.38 | purl | ACTION bends AKX over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on AKX's pasty white buttocks. |
21:00.39 | Qshadowp[NS] | i write my own mIRC addons :) |
21:01.20 | Xuerian | s/ircc/irssi/ |
21:01.37 | Kalamadi | I shall be known henceforth as Kalamadi the Spankmaster. |
21:01.49 | Qshadowp[NS] | i wrote my own themes, commands, anti spam, auto identify, language translation via babelfish and a few other scripts ;) |
21:02.26 | Kalamadi | I'm scared of me, too. |
21:02.33 | Gngsk | I've been a bad boy. |
21:02.49 | Xuerian | .... |
21:03.00 | Gngsk | That's Kalamadi's queue... |
21:03.02 | Qshadowp[NS] | O.o |
21:04.27 | Qshadowp[NS] | lol lua is so similar to IRC scripting |
21:04.37 | Qshadowp[NS] | i mean the whole way it works n all |
21:04.48 | Xuerian | s/irc/mirc/ |
21:04.49 | Qshadowp[NS] | irc is 99% event based too :) |
21:05.28 | kergoth | lua isnt event based, wow's use of lua is |
21:05.47 | kergoth | and i think you mean mirc scripting, unless you also have experience with irssi perl scripts or something |
21:06.05 | Qshadowp[NS] | yea |
21:06.17 | Qshadowp[NS] | sigh people allways have to be so perfect :( |
21:07.24 | haste | ~kergoth |
21:07.25 | purl | it has been said that kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer currently working for Openedhand Ltd (o-hand.com), remotely, from AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSlib. Often the resident BOFH, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware. |
21:07.30 | haste | see, he warns people :d |
21:07.35 | kergoth | ;) |
21:07.38 | Xuerian | That's like walking into a bar and dissing alcoholics |
21:07.54 | Qshadowp[NS] | i mean with IRC its on *:EVENT:(possible channel or private message identifier here):{ Do stuff } and with lua its function youraddon:EVENT() do stuff on next line |
21:08.04 | Qshadowp[NS] | and by IRC i mean mIRC *must be perfect* |
21:08.14 | kergoth | not perfect, accurate. |
21:08.21 | kergoth | mirc isnt the only, or even the best, irc client out there |
21:08.22 | Qshadowp[NS] | ok :P |
21:08.37 | Qshadowp[NS] | yea its probably not but i like the way its so customizeable |
21:08.44 | Qshadowp[NS] | easily customizeable that is |
21:09.49 | Qshadowp[NS] | and thats also why i <3 wow lol |
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21:10.02 | Qshadowp[NS] | i probably spend more time on my ui than i actually do playing the game lol :> |
21:10.16 | Xuerian | That's one thing I think many of us can agree on :p |
21:10.50 | eternally777 | o/ |
21:10.54 | vhaarr | rofl, beta servers just disappeared. |
21:11.00 | vhaarr | *boom* |
21:11.09 | vhaarr | USA nuking France? |
21:11.15 | vhaarr | oh wait, all beta servers are in USA |
21:11.17 | JoshBork1 | yes |
21:11.19 | eternally777 | I wouldn't rule out the possibility |
21:11.27 | vhaarr | USSR nuking USA maybe? |
21:11.36 | eternally777 | I'd rule out that possibility |
21:11.40 | vhaarr | okay |
21:11.46 | eternally777 | N. Korea probably. |
21:11.47 | vhaarr | North-Korea, then. |
21:11.49 | vhaarr | indeed |
21:12.07 | eternally777 | Or Iraq, because we all know they have hidden WoMDs |
21:12.10 | sylvanaar | while we are talking trash - any ideas for interesting and useless modules i can add to Interview (to expose local data to remote recievers) |
21:12.56 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Quests. |
21:13.00 | Xuerian | Inventory browser. Skill browser. Equip browser. Addon list. That cover it, or am I thinking of different things? |
21:13.08 | vhaarr | QUESTS |
21:13.11 | vhaarr | FOR GODS SAKE |
21:13.11 | kergoth | professions, what recipes they have |
21:13.13 | Chrizo | warlock dot timers with nice candybars i need |
21:13.14 | Xuerian | Quests would be good too |
21:13.20 | vhaarr | Quests would be excellent. |
21:13.25 | kergoth | Chrizo: chronometer has that |
21:13.53 | sylvanaar | yeah, i was thinking of talent tree and addon list too |
21:13.55 | Mikma | Kemayo: Laric added your lib in !!!Libs and it is giving out an error. so i had to take it off from .toc |
21:13.58 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Obviously the quest log takes care of that if the person is in your party and close ... |
21:14.09 | vhaarr | Mikma: He fixed it now. |
21:14.22 | Mikma | vhaarr: /pat someone |
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21:14.36 | vhaarr | ~pat Kemayo |
21:14.38 | purl | ACTION pats Kemayo and says "Nicely Done!" |
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21:15.01 | sylvanaar | ok - which quest detail sharing mod should i support |
21:15.08 | vurlix | in Grid, what's the difference between a player box with a gray colored background and a class colored box? |
21:15.19 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Quest detail sharing mod? |
21:15.42 | Xuerian | Quest detail sharing mod? o_0 This sounds like it needs it's own interface, just a list of quests that the other person has, perhaps in a tablet or something? |
21:15.57 | [FH]Birdemani | does grid only work on beta? |
21:16.00 | vhaarr | no |
21:16.32 | Xuerian | Oh. table. |
21:16.35 | Xuerian | That kind of table. |
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21:17.43 | vhaarr | can anyone give me a bugsack error on pastebin? |
21:17.56 | vhaarr | any error |
21:18.15 | vhaarr | nevermind, servers up again |
21:18.44 | sylvanaar | interview has no interface - its there to enable other mods that need remote data. im just adding random stuff to it. |
21:18.49 | Xuerian | Hm |
21:19.00 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: hrm |
21:19.04 | Xuerian | sylvanaar: I need to be able to query inventory and equipment |
21:19.30 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Then you should add support for it to FuBar_QuestsFu ^^ Like "4 other online guildmates are on this quest" |
21:19.36 | Xuerian | Equipment by slot, inventory by ... equip type? |
21:19.41 | vhaarr | and in the mob tooltip "1 player in your party needs this mob" |
21:19.44 | Xuerian | both...equip...slot....whatever >_< |
21:20.20 | sylvanaar | ok, that sounds like a good module for me to add - inventory, im doing buff/debuffs, and spell/abilities also |
21:20.24 | Xuerian | Oh, that would be nifty. Xxxx has 2/3 of this mob |
21:20.33 | vhaarr | indeed that would be very nice |
21:22.37 | sylvanaar | yes, exactly the kind of ideas i was looking for |
21:22.51 | eternally777 | is there an Ace2 oCB yet? |
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21:23.17 | Adrine | Afternoon, folks |
21:23.23 | Xuerian | heya Adrine. |
21:23.39 | Adrine | AceDB question, if I could |
21:23.44 | Plorkyeran | The version WAU gave me is Ace2 |
21:23.49 | vhaarr | eternally777: The trunk version is Ace2. |
21:23.53 | Adrine | Are DBs not available during OnLoad? |
21:24.19 | Adrine | I'm having trouble getting access to (var).db.realm during a dropdown initialization. |
21:25.16 | vhaarr | var.db.realm? |
21:25.20 | vhaarr | it's self.db.realm.var |
21:25.45 | snurre- | hm, didnt take long for NWN2 to bug out :/ |
21:26.00 | snurre- | just lost all textures and couldnt see anything but a green void + UI |
21:26.08 | Xuerian | snurre-: erk. How was it till then? |
21:26.11 | Adrine | Well, no |
21:26.23 | Adrine | I have SanityItemCache, which is an AceLibrary |
21:26.31 | Adrine | SanityItemCache.db is its database, naturally |
21:26.38 | snurre- | havent seen much, still messing about in the noob area... but looks ok so far.. except for a known bug that makes all movement extremely choppy |
21:27.05 | Xuerian | snurre-: I just hope that obsidian plays like bioware did and keeps up a steady stream of patches |
21:27.10 | Adrine | Attempting to access SanityItemCache.db.realm from the OnLoad on a dropdown tells me that "db" is a nil value, though it works when I do it manually. |
21:27.21 | Xuerian | snurre-: Seeing as Bioware was patching till a month or two before 2's release.... |
21:27.24 | Adrine | So I'm wondering if there's something I need to do to ensure my DB is loaded before the XML is parsed. |
21:27.43 | Plorkyeran | db isn't accessable until SanityItemCache:OnInitialize is called |
21:27.43 | vhaarr | Adrine: A library with a SV? |
21:27.53 | vhaarr | Adrine: That doesn't sound good. |
21:28.06 | snurre- | http://www.atari.com/nwn2/UK/downloads.php <-- theres a patch, it seems |
21:28.11 | Adrine | Well, kinda. I'm still trying to figure Ace out, so I might be doing it wrong :) |
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21:28.16 | vhaarr | You are. |
21:28.16 | Plorkyeran | Which happens on ADDON_LOAD iirc |
21:28.20 | snurre- | or perhaps not |
21:28.28 | Adrine | It's less a library and more of a module for my addon. It's not a generic library. |
21:28.37 | Adrine | I'm working off of the WelcomeHome example, FWIW. |
21:28.40 | vhaarr | Adrine: Libraries do not have savedvariables, since they have no way to define the ##SavedVariables, since they do not have a TOC. |
21:28.48 | Adrine | SanityItemCache = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0", "AceDB-2.0") |
21:28.59 | vhaarr | ah |
21:29.04 | vhaarr | That doesn't make it a library. |
21:29.06 | eternally777 | Adrine: ah, that makes it just another addon :) |
21:29.17 | Adrine | Heh, I didn't think so, but my terminology isn't there yet :) |
21:29.21 | Adrine | Anyway, no, it's not a library. |
21:29.46 | vhaarr | Pastebin your code somewhere. |
21:30.13 | eternally777 | You want your DB accessible before the XML is loaded? Then make a main lua file and make sure it comes before the XML file in your .TOC file. That *should* do it. |
21:31.14 | haste | oh! |
21:31.16 | eternally777 | vhaarr: Am I wrong? |
21:31.20 | haste | I started emptying my tinypad today |
21:31.33 | vhaarr | eternally777: No, that should work. |
21:31.35 | Xuerian | lol, what'd you find in the pages of crap, haste? |
21:31.46 | haste | and I have a little script there to buy poisons, should I turn that into an add on and name it: oTravi :p ? |
21:31.57 | haste | Xuerian: I found oTrap :p |
21:31.57 | haste | err |
21:32.01 | haste | oPen* |
21:32.03 | Adrine | eternally: Already tried that. Doesn't seem to work. |
21:32.11 | Xuerian | lol, make them both |
21:32.16 | sylvanaar | i have found the macro sharing thing i wrote to be really handy |
21:32.17 | Xuerian | Well, oTravi |
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21:32.25 | Xuerian | since you made oPen... people seem to like your oSomethings :P |
21:32.26 | vhaarr | Adrine: Could you please just paste your code somewhere? |
21:32.41 | Xuerian | Adrine: ace.pastey.net |
21:32.45 | Adrine | Working on it. Pastebin is being nice and slow. |
21:33.01 | Xuerian | pastey-pastey-pastey, pastey-for-tha-win. |
21:33.04 | vhaarr | http://ace.pastey.net/ |
21:33.11 | Adrine | http://ace.pastey.net/2082 |
21:33.13 | haste | Xuerian: Otravi means poison, and it's an add on to buy poisons, so why not :p ? |
21:33.24 | haste | or rather, to poison |
21:33.28 | Xuerian | Makes even more sense :P |
21:33.35 | sylvanaar | like, get my 'assist1' macro and put it on your hot bar....that was cool |
21:33.52 | haste | I think oPen works tho', at least the opening parts of it works |
21:33.58 | haste | but I added skill checking and such to it |
21:34.00 | haste | and bag support |
21:34.03 | haste | which is dry code :p |
21:34.11 | Adrine | I'd move the init code into the OnInitialize, except that it relies on an implicit "this" reference. |
21:34.15 | Xuerian | haste: At what point does it open the subcontainer? |
21:34.26 | haste | subcontainer? |
21:34.44 | Xuerian | Lockbox, clam... That's what it does right? Thought that's what you said >_> |
21:34.44 | Adrine | I could try manually setting this, but I that's hackier than I'd like. |
21:34.59 | haste | it's a rogue add on, so it opens lockboxes |
21:35.05 | Uruloke | If you have created a frame using CreateFrame and you later do myframe = nil. Will that frame be completely garbage collected or will some bits of it still remain although you can't get at it? |
21:35.06 | Xuerian | Ah o.0 |
21:35.10 | haste | by just clicking on them |
21:35.18 | haste | so you don't have to open your spellbook all the time |
21:35.19 | haste | or bind a hotkey |
21:35.25 | Xuerian | Nifty, just making sure I don't need to catch/count for anything in XLoot:) |
21:35.40 | haste | as long as you don't touch the trade window |
21:35.44 | haste | or the bags, it should be fine |
21:35.45 | Xuerian | Nope |
21:35.50 | Mikma | wassup cunts? |
21:35.59 | haste | Mikma: I'm cleaning out my TinyPad |
21:36.00 | Xuerian | Well, the loot window that the bag uses, but not the bags themselves |
21:36.05 | vhaarr | Uruloke: Frames are never destroyed. |
21:36.09 | haste | Mikma: one add on out of it, and I found one more |
21:36.13 | vhaarr | Uruloke: It's there even if you nil your reference to it. |
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21:36.22 | Uruloke | vhaarr: meh, that's what I was afraid of |
21:36.34 | Mikma | haste: you? cleaning tinypad? hah! all the 150 pages? |
21:36.45 | Uruloke | vhaarr: So then it's not a very good idea to create frames, nil them and create them again huh? |
21:36.56 | vhaarr | Uruloke: Indeed, that is a bad idea. |
21:37.02 | vhaarr | Uruloke: Since they are already there. |
21:37.10 | Uruloke | *nods* |
21:37.11 | Neronix`work | Oh Bugger |
21:37.18 | Neronix`work | I broke the speaker port on this new sound card |
21:37.25 | eternally777 | Adrine: I don't quite understand what's happening on line 25 of your paste |
21:37.30 | Mikma | another update for BC heh |
21:37.32 | Mikma | 99.5MB |
21:37.34 | eternally777 | But whatever it is, I don't think you're doing it right. |
21:37.35 | Neronix`work | Time to wave byebye to another £10 |
21:38.02 | Adrine | That's just debug stuff. It fails on the previous line, trying to index realm. |
21:38.41 | haste | Mikma: It crashes my WoW now :p |
21:38.56 | haste | Mikma: so I'm taking out the working drycode and making it into add ons |
21:39.07 | Mikma | oh WOW! it's 2.0.1 wow :D |
21:39.09 | Mikma | so big update hehe |
21:39.20 | Mikma | haste: care to spoil the addons? |
21:39.54 | haste | Mikma: so far, a Ace2 rewrite of RogueHelper (which I did for a guildy, never uploaded to the SVN), an add on to buy poisons, and one to open boxes with the click of a button |
21:40.02 | haste | I've committed the last one |
21:40.03 | haste | named oPen |
21:40.10 | Mikma | haha neat name |
21:40.14 | Neronix | Note to self: Stop tripping over the frickin' speaker cable |
21:40.19 | Neronix | lol yeah |
21:40.27 | kergoth | i have a question.. a couple, actually, about grid... first, why do i have to select the size of the raid in teh options? why can't it adjust the layout as necessary? and second, how does it choose how many rows it's going to use? |
21:40.29 | haste | wasn't me who came up with that :D |
21:40.47 | haste | it was sylvanaar :D |
21:40.53 | eternally777 | "for k in table do" is a deprecated way of doing it.. Not sure if that makes a difference, but I believe "for k in pairs(table) do" is slightly more proper :) That probably won't fix your problem, sorry. |
21:41.40 | Mikma | so i went to see borat |
21:41.56 | Mikma | haven't laughed that much before in movies |
21:42.10 | Gngsk | hmm |
21:42.13 | Gngsk | I think I'm gonna have to go see it |
21:42.18 | Gngsk | haven't been to the theatre since LoTR |
21:42.32 | Adrine | Heh, good to know. I agree, though, not likely to fix it. |
21:43.40 | eternally777 | Adrine: I have to go to work, all I can say is good luck finding a different way to do whatever you're trying to do :) |
21:43.53 | Kirkburn | What's that, LoTR? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Wow-Lotr.gif |
21:43.54 | Mikma | i'm dreaming of a "new" computer |
21:44.06 | Adrine | Heh, ok, thanks. |
21:44.23 | eternally777 | Maybe create the frame with lua instead of an XML file? see ya |
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21:46.32 | haste | that was one more add on converted into a real add on |
21:46.55 | CIA-17 | 03otravi * r15962 10oRogueHelper/ (. libs/ moredots.lua oRogueHelper.toc): |
21:46.55 | CIA-17 | oRogueHelper: |
21:46.55 | CIA-17 | - Initial import. |
21:46.55 | CIA-17 | - Basic convert of the old RogueHelper add on, done for a guildmate some time ago. |
21:46.55 | CIA-17 | - Just makes a little frame which shows current energy and compo points. |
21:47.14 | nevcairiel | hah, one more "moredots.lua" addon :) |
21:47.26 | haste | I do that on all add ons:p |
21:47.31 | haste | It's from my template |
21:47.36 | nevcairiel | i noticed recently |
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21:49.40 | Qshadowp[NS] | http://pastey.net/2083 whats wrong with this? |
21:50.05 | haste | :new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0") |
21:50.07 | nevcairiel | you wrote AceEvent= |
21:50.07 | haste | not :new("AceConsole-2.0, AceEvent=2.0") |
21:50.08 | kergoth | oRogueHelper, how does it compare to gonffbar? |
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21:50.11 | Adrine | "AceConsole-2.0, AceEvent=2.0" - change that to "AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent=2.0" |
21:50.22 | Qshadowp[NS] | oh yea |
21:50.29 | Qshadowp[NS] | i see :D |
21:50.29 | haste | kergoth: it just shows energy and combo points like the old rogue helper addon did |
21:50.32 | Adrine | Remove the : after print on like 9 |
21:50.56 | kergoth | ah right, cool |
21:51.02 | Qshadowp[NS] | ah that too :D |
21:51.03 | Qshadowp[NS] | ty :D |
21:51.17 | kergoth | will have to try it, could see about dropping my HUD in favor of that and a decent playerframe |
21:51.18 | haste | kergoth: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-90-1-roguehelper.html << that's the original |
21:51.30 | Neronix | haste: before I forget, I get empty debuff boxes under my pet unit frame for some odd reason |
21:51.33 | haste | it was requested by a guildy, and small to write |
21:51.51 | Neronix | is it a known issue? |
21:51.52 | haste | Neronix: Yes, someone else said that to me today also |
21:51.52 | haste | I haven't had time to look into that yet :p |
21:52.05 | Neronix | I'll see if I can find anything |
21:52.14 | Adrine | It looks like OnInitialize() gets called after XML gets parsed, even if the .lua gets loaded first. |
21:52.47 | [FH]Birdemani | anyone using oapplication here? |
21:53.30 | [FH]Birdemani | have any advice on how to sell off items at the vender that can be applied? When I go to sell nightcrawlers, the wont sell, it just brings up the menu to apply them |
21:54.11 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: haven't fixed that yet |
21:54.42 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: I'll get it fixed asap tho' |
21:54.53 | [Liquidor] | Fix me a line too |
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21:57.09 | sylvanaar | what are quest ID's |
21:57.43 | sylvanaar | questlog indexes or unique keys |
21:57.54 | Kemayo | Questlog indexes. |
21:59.35 | Laric | Kemayo is questfu working? so I can go up in revision again? :P |
21:59.54 | CIA-17 | 03otravi * r15963 10oApplication/oApplication.lua: oApplication: Menu no longer works when at a merchant, or at the bank. |
22:00.00 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: there :) |
22:01.32 | [FH]Birdemani | thanks! |
22:02.33 | Mikma | so |
22:02.42 | Mikma | wow will be atleast 2.0.1 when bc get's released |
22:05.20 | [Liquidor] | What's wrong here? http://pastey.net/2085 |
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22:06.37 | haste | new("AceConsole-2.0, AceEvent-2.0") should be: new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0") |
22:06.40 | haste | as I asid |
22:06.45 | dbu|bruzz | hi there |
22:06.51 | Qshadowp[NS] | i fixed that 9[04haste9] |
22:06.56 | haste | self:print should be: self:Print |
22:07.02 | Qshadowp[NS] | ahh ok :P |
22:07.08 | vhaarr | self:Print only exists if you have AceConsole mixed in. |
22:07.10 | phyber | oh, wow. disable that nick colouring stuff. |
22:07.10 | kergoth | hmmmm, wonder why grid doesnt work LoD |
22:07.15 | kergoth | Qshadowp[NS]: kill the color |
22:07.15 | haste | ReagentTracker:BAG_OPEN() should be BandageTracker:BAG_OPEN() |
22:07.20 | haste | that's all the errors I see |
22:07.31 | Qshadowp[NS] | yea fixed that too |
22:07.37 | haste | also |
22:07.42 | haste | you should use BucketEvent on BAG_UPDATE |
22:07.50 | [Liquidor] | Go write a new file for him haste |
22:07.56 | [Liquidor] | *wink* |
22:07.56 | dbu|bruzz | anybody here who can help me with ace addons not loading under linux |
22:07.57 | haste | BAG_UPDATE is made of ass and file and triggers _all_ the time |
22:08.13 | Qshadowp[NS] | ok so i gotta add ace console and fix the print thing |
22:08.21 | Xuerian | dbu|bruzz: pastey your logs/framexml.log file |
22:08.25 | haste | dbu|bruzz: download Ace2 seperate, and add add ons to op |
22:08.26 | haste | err |
22:08.27 | [Liquidor] | and the functions |
22:08.29 | Qshadowp[NS] | and the ReagentTracker thing :P |
22:08.33 | haste | damn irssi |
22:08.47 | Xuerian | Ctrl+J? o_0 |
22:08.53 | haste | It's like enter :p |
22:08.58 | Qshadowp[NS] | lol |
22:08.59 | haste | and <Ctrl>+k = clear line |
22:09.04 | Xuerian | Yeah, that's a lot easier >_> |
22:09.09 | Xuerian | :P |
22:09.11 | phyber | haste: unbind it :p |
22:09.15 | haste | phyber: so am |
22:09.17 | dbu|bruzz | thanks haste, i will try that |
22:09.40 | haste | I use Ace2 seperate and let add ons load based on option dep here |
22:09.47 | haste | I run ReisferFS4 if it matters |
22:09.53 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r15964 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (4 files): |
22:09.53 | CIA-17 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
22:09.53 | CIA-17 | - Hook a lot more item tooltips. |
22:09.53 | CIA-17 | - Option to replace Blizzard quest tracker with a cute lil' tablet. |
22:11.34 | [Liquidor] | Does Cases exist within Lua? |
22:11.34 | haste | I have no idea why, but I'm in a really productive mood today |
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22:13.29 | [Liquidor] | like function ThisOrThis(var) Case "A": return "Ah"; Case "B": return "Bah"; Default: return "None" Case end end --- or something in lua? |
22:14.17 | [Liquidor] | Or should I use a table with keys as cases? |
22:14.36 | haste | just use tables |
22:14.42 | [Liquidor] | Ye okay |
22:17.19 | kergoth | haste: suggestion, if possible, make it so you can click through the oroguehelper. a lock option perhaps? |
22:17.40 | haste | kergoth: I can add that, it doesn't use AceConsole as you can see atm |
22:18.26 | kergoth | no worries, just throwing it out there, since itll be right where you might be clicking, in the middle of things, for visibility |
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22:19.50 | vhaarr | someone please test this bugsack commit |
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22:20.22 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15965 10BugSack/ (BugSack.lua BugSackFu.lua): |
22:20.22 | CIA-17 | BugSack: |
22:20.22 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
22:20.22 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
22:20.22 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
22:20.23 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
22:20.26 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
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22:21.59 | nymbia | ok |
22:22.42 | Dahn | hello all |
22:22.53 | nymbia | hi Dahn |
22:23.00 | Kemayo | Heh. wowace forums generate a javascript error every time you enter a character into a text field. :-D |
22:23.48 | Kaelten | Kemayo: ? |
22:24.12 | Kemayo | Kaelten: It says "onkeyup, storeCaret is not defined". |
22:24.23 | Xuerian | Kaelten: The WYSIWYG still doesn't work, and I'm guessing that has to do with it :P |
22:24.30 | Kaelten | heh |
22:24.44 | Kaelten | I probalby just need to reinstall some of it |
22:25.01 | Xuerian | Seems like paths need correction or somesuch |
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22:25.24 | Kaelten | probably |
22:25.49 | Xuerian | Hardcoded or simply a db entry? |
22:27.31 | Kaelten | hrm, not sure :) I need to dig into it. |
22:27.37 | nymbia | vhaarr: seems to be working well :) |
22:27.58 | vhaarr | nymbia: excellent, thanks :) |
22:32.45 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r15966 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Update LinkToID reference to LinkToName |
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22:34.38 | vhaarr | nymbia: more importantly, did you like or dislike the changes? |
22:34.51 | vhaarr | I think maybe the brown color is too dark, I'm not sure |
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22:38.59 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07dev * r15967 10Interview/Tests/Simple.lua: Interview: Respond to guild queries if you are on a particular quest |
22:42.02 | nymbia | vhaarr: the color seems good. is there a way to make it a bit wider without making it super-wide? |
22:42.21 | Mikma | YEY my first Dishonorable kill |
22:42.33 | Mikma | dotted a civilian in accident |
22:42.48 | Mikma | the lvl45 didn't last long and died |
22:43.24 | vhaarr | nymbia: I wanted to do that, but no :/ |
22:43.55 | nymbia | right now it's small enough that for some errors, error number is the only thing on the first line, file name is the only thing on the second line, then the actual error spreads over 2-3 lines |
22:44.19 | Mikma | OMG OMG OMG |
22:44.27 | Mikma | sonny crockett just got shot in the chest! |
22:45.10 | Kemayo | Mikma: What was that startup error from Quixote you were complaining about earlier...? |
22:45.22 | Mikma | Kemayo: line 161, can't remember the rest |
22:45.30 | vhaarr | nymbia: let me look into it |
22:45.51 | Kemayo | Okay, good. That one's fixed. |
22:46.01 | Mikma | Kemayo: something about deformat etc |
22:46.22 | kergoth | haste: fyi, cedega's fixed if you didnt know |
22:46.27 | kergoth | no more crashy on login, thank god |
22:46.30 | yacoob | Gadgetzan Times. Innocent civilian gets dotted. "When violence will end?", local community is asking? |
22:47.38 | Kemayo | (Though only for some fairly unusual quests, which is why I didn't catch it in testing.) |
22:49.01 | vhaarr | yeah I read the code :) |
22:49.15 | vhaarr | |if var == nil then deformat(var, X) end| |
22:49.19 | vhaarr | I was like "wtf" :P |
22:49.39 | Kemayo | I was cleaning up some unnecessary local variables and got a bit overzealous... |
22:49.43 | Kemayo | ;_; |
22:50.00 | haste | haha |
22:50.17 | haste | if(var == nil) then table[var] end |
22:50.20 | haste | also good! |
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22:51.31 | nevcairiel | lol |
22:51.41 | Neronix | setfenv(0, {}) is even better! |
22:51.41 | Mikma | nevcairiel: stfu and code DC ;) |
22:51.48 | Kemayo | It wouldn't be a problem if Blizzard wasn't shoehorning things into the "monster" leaderboard type that shouldn't be there... |
22:52.54 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r15968 10!!!Libs/!!!Libs.toc: !!!Libs: Quixote is back, now working! |
22:53.23 | nevcairiel | i hope tested and approved Mikma :D |
22:53.49 | Mikma | nevcairiel: meaning DC or !!!Libs? ;) yes !!!Libs is tested by me! |
22:53.52 | Mikma | wowowowooo! |
22:54.12 | AKX | Gahh.. someone mashup ExperienceFu and FuXPFu... |
22:54.21 | nevcairiel | what code did you upload to bt3 anyway? |
22:54.28 | nevcairiel | just bt2 vanilla? |
22:54.37 | Dahn | is there a recommended way to iterate over attributes of a secure button frame? or is there a frame dump debug lib I can use? |
22:54.43 | Mikma | nevcairiel: yeah i renamed all bt2 files and all functions to bartender3 :) |
22:54.59 | Mikma | nevcairiel: and i removed the StickyFrames.lua from .toc since people say it's not working |
22:55.10 | Mikma | nevcairiel: i also tested that one out by myself and it works |
22:55.55 | Mikma | but, not tested in TBC ;) |
23:01.36 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r15969 10SpellCacheLib/SpellCache-1.0/SpellCache-1.0.lua: SpellCacheLib : fixed a problem where self.FullPattern could be nil in function GetRanklessSpellName(spellName) causing a problem with deformat |
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23:04.03 | Mikma | nevcairiel: people have been asking the "rows" feature for pet and shape-bars |
23:04.28 | Mikma | nevcairiel: but i don't think that they are needed in BT2 anymore since it's only 2 months for TBC ;) |
23:04.55 | Mikma | nevcairiel: SPEAK TO ME!!! |
23:06.16 | nevcairiel | raiding :o) |
23:06.22 | nevcairiel | rows .. |
23:06.23 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
23:06.29 | nevcairiel | do they have switch? |
23:06.36 | Kemayo | Is there a handy description of what's new in BT3? |
23:06.43 | nevcairiel | nothing, yet |
23:06.45 | Mikma | Kemayo: yes. TBC lolk |
23:06.48 | Mikma | -k |
23:06.51 | nevcairiel | its the branch for tbc |
23:06.56 | nevcairiel | under development |
23:06.57 | Kemayo | All becomes clear. |
23:07.00 | nevcairiel | not working |
23:07.03 | nevcairiel | and so on |
23:07.03 | nevcairiel | :;D |
23:07.07 | Mikma | nevcairiel: well they do have a swap, and i fixed it earlier to match actionbars |
23:07.13 | Mikma | wrong! it does work |
23:07.23 | Mikma | but it has *nothing* to do with TBC yet :D |
23:07.38 | nevcairiel | i prefer to tell them that its not working |
23:07.38 | Mikma | only change i have made is removed the StickyFrames from .toc ;) |
23:07.42 | nevcairiel | so they dont get any bad ideas |
23:08.05 | Mikma | and, renamed 'function Bartender:Foo()' to 'function Bartender3:Foo()' |
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23:09.07 | Mikma | oh and i'm really planning on making a BT2 check to make sure people aren't that stupid ;) |
23:09.29 | nevcairiel | screw stupid people |
23:09.50 | Mikma | well it's not that hard |
23:10.05 | Mikma | IsAddOnLoaded("Bartender") then DisableAddon("Bartender") |
23:10.08 | Mikma | tadah! |
23:10.25 | Mikma | since the name now is Bartender3 in the .lua hehe |
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23:11.39 | haste | doesn't it go by the folder name? |
23:11.53 | nevcairiel | yeah |
23:11.57 | nevcairiel | but it changed as well |
23:12.26 | Mikma | hmm |
23:12.39 | Mikma | oh well i messed up but anyway |
23:12.48 | Mikma | haste: screw you!!11 |
23:13.08 | haste | :D |
23:13.12 | Elkano | Kemayo, did you see the two bug messages I queried you? |
23:16.56 | Mikma | i'm really, really bored |
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23:18.54 | sbu | gnnnk |
23:19.02 | sbu | i dont like fankriss :/ |
23:19.06 | sbu | 3h wipe.. |
23:20.55 | kovi | we used to do him with an aoe taunt + aoe rotation, which got always reeeaaally messy towards the end with 20 ppl dead or so, then we changed to offtanking the bugs where they spawn and never lose anyone at him any more |
23:21.15 | nevcairiel | dunno, fankriss isnt that hard |
23:21.29 | nevcairiel | yeah, two tanks get fankriss, and two offtank all adds |
23:21.44 | Mikma | FRS Coloring Book 1.3 (Shareware - 11/03/2006) |
23:21.44 | Mikma | coloring book for preschool & kindergarten |
23:21.48 | Mikma | lol now i know what to do |
23:24.13 | Kalamadi | <3 Reuben |
23:24.21 | Mikma | ryben |
23:24.43 | Kalamadi | I'll call my food what I want, Sally. |
23:24.46 | Mikma | we have a "nickname" ryben for anal in finland ;D |
23:24.56 | Kalamadi | >_> |
23:25.08 | Kalamadi | That is so strangely in context with the other thing on my mind, it's scary |
23:25.10 | Mikma | "i'll stuff a pineapple up in your ryben" |
23:25.18 | haste | haha! |
23:25.24 | Kalamadi | :x |
23:25.27 | haste | I'm in a WSG vs [Ammo]'s guild :D |
23:25.38 | Kalamadi | <PROTECTED> |
23:25.59 | steino_ | ! |
23:26.29 | nymbia | lol haste |
23:27.03 | Mikma | haste: BACKSTAB STUNLOCK VANISH repeat |
23:27.08 | Mikma | kill kill killllll |
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23:31.43 | haste | Mikma: I'm combat swords :p |
23:32.21 | Mikma | haste: nooooooes :( |
23:32.57 | Kalamadi | Why do class leads always expect the utmost of sympathy when handing out invites? "My girl's on her period, be quiet, I've had enough today." |
23:33.29 | sylvanaar | because it makes them feel important |
23:33.45 | nymbia | lol |
23:33.56 | Kalamadi | It's like, WTF? Why does everyone expect sympathy when they never give it out? |
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23:40.36 | sylvanaar | attention |
23:41.05 | sylvanaar | is what they want - sympathy it just a form of it |
23:44.48 | steino_ | woho |
23:44.56 | kergoth | BugSack\BugSackFu.lua:54: bad argument #3 to `format' (string expected, got no value) |
23:44.56 | kergoth | <in C code>: in function `format' |
23:44.56 | kergoth | BugSack\BugSackFu.lua:54: in function `OnTooltipUpdate' |
23:44.57 | steino_ | me and haste beat [Ammo]'s guild in wsg! |
23:44.59 | haste | Refusion > Auxilia |
23:44.59 | kergoth | vhaarr: |
23:45.01 | steino_ | imb |
23:45.12 | vhaarr | kergoth: gah, okay |
23:45.37 | kergoth | other than that, looks slick |
23:45.43 | kergoth | much easier to grasp visually on mouseover |
23:45.51 | vhaarr | kergoth: that was my goal indeed, thanks |
23:45.58 | vhaarr | kergoth: could you possibly give me the error? |
23:46.11 | vhaarr | the error that caused it, I mean |
23:46.34 | Mi|es | finally, raid end |
23:46.47 | Mi|es | 14.15 - now, ~20k gold total |
23:46.53 | kergoth | dunno, that was all i saw in bugsack |
23:47.18 | vhaarr | kergoth: if you open the actual bugsack window, the error should be there |
23:51.03 | kergoth | where do you think i pasted that from? |
23:51.19 | kergoth | [2006/11/04 16:43:46-1324]: BugSack\BugSackFu.lua:54: bad argument #3 to `format' (string expected, got no value) is t he top line |
23:51.20 | Uruloke | Is there any way to clear the queue in AceComm's throttling bit? |
23:51.22 | kergoth | there's no header |
23:52.13 | vhaarr | kergoth: does it happen with all errors or just some? |
23:52.40 | kergoth | oh i bet i know what caused it |
23:52.55 | kergoth | there it is |
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23:53.01 | kergoth | it always follows the repeat errors |
23:53.03 | kergoth | [2006/11/04 16:36:22-1324]: last message repeated 3 times |
23:53.10 | kergoth | pattern must not be matching that |
23:53.18 | vhaarr | oh, that freaking crap |
23:53.22 | vhaarr | should be removed completely |
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23:53.25 | vhaarr | I'll do that |
23:53.34 | kergoth | hehe, thanks |
23:54.51 | Kaelten | :p |
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23:57.15 | sbu | kovi: uhm |
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23:57.31 | sbu | 1 tank at each position? |
23:57.37 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15970 10BugSack/BugSackFu.lua: |
23:57.37 | CIA-17 | BugSack: For now, stop those "last message repeated" messages from showing in |
23:57.37 | CIA-17 | the tablet at all. I'll probably work on moving that stuff to just using a |
23:57.37 | CIA-17 | counter field on the first error instead of actually adding a new error to the |
23:57.37 | CIA-17 | sack tomorrow. |
23:57.57 | sbu | kovi: full def gear i guess? |
23:58.00 | vhaarr | if Fritti doesn't beat me to it, which I hope he does :P |
23:58.17 | kovi | yeah |
23:58.30 | kovi | and then 1or2 more to catch snakes |
23:58.37 | sbu | mhhh |
23:58.51 | aE|neXter | we're doing the bugs with one tank only |
23:59.09 | aE|neXter | he constantly runs from spawn point to spawn point, spamming demo shout |
23:59.17 | aE|neXter | catching all the scarabs |
23:59.22 | sbu | hmm but 1 heal -> aggro to healer |
23:59.24 | aE|neXter | 2 offtanks for the snakes |
23:59.27 | aE|neXter | rest on fankriss |
23:59.31 | aE|neXter | nope |
23:59.35 | sbu | same problem with 1 tank / position |
23:59.42 | aE|neXter | there are 2 priests, one druid and one pally (me) on him |
23:59.46 | aE|neXter | NO aggro at all |
23:59.46 | Kalamadi | sbu: Paladins~ |
23:59.49 | sbu | :/ |