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00:00.24XuerianReproducable, sbu?
00:00.26nymbiahaarm: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Getting_an_Account
00:00.50sbuXuerian: hmm - i get this error every few seconds
00:01.01sbuthink it has something to do w/ battleground+ loot
00:01.03XuerianBut not while out of av?
00:01.12ckknightback
00:01.13sbumhhh, didnt notice
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00:02.07sbuso its a lot of erros in line 323
00:02.20sbuand 1 (!) in 344 (variable 'c')
00:02.27haarmlol, the guy giving away free keys from worldofwar.net just pinged out while naming the final winner
00:03.04sbuwoot? free keys?
00:03.28Xueriansbu: Was the 344 error before the others?
00:03.34haarmty nymbia, i'll read in a sec
00:04.07sbuyup
00:04.09Funkeh`eternally777: hey
00:04.29eternally777Funkeh`: hey
00:04.34Xueriansbu: Well I've seen people account for "unknown" class, but that's just weird
00:04.40eternally777How's it going?
00:04.50XuerianHas this only happened once?
00:05.07CIA-1703nymbia * r15878 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
00:05.07CIA-17Manufac:
00:05.08CIA-17- Added an error check for older versions of auctioneer.
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00:05.25Funkeh`good good :)
00:05.28Funkeh`you?
00:06.18Mikmai mean really
00:06.19eternally777Same.  I just started an emerge -e system && emerge -e world, so it looks like I'm going to be bored for the next few days.
00:06.23Mikmadoes someone actually pay for RDX
00:06.50hasteeternally777: why are you using -e ?
00:07.13eternally777GCC upgrade
00:07.13nevcairiel-e starts with an empty tree, for a full rebuild of everything
00:07.19hasteah
00:07.21eternally777Going by the book
00:07.22hastethat's fun
00:07.28eternally777So I don't screw anything up again
00:07.30eternally777:)
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00:07.54MikmaRAWR browsing rdx-raid.com is bringing up my rage again
00:08.08CIA-1703usz * r15879 10TooltipExchange/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
00:08.08CIA-17TooltipExchange
00:08.08CIA-17- Cleanup in UI generation code
00:08.08CIA-17- More meaningful tooltip texts
00:08.08CIA-17- Added rarity selection to search options
00:08.12Exekuteyo, help a noob, where can I get EEMon now?
00:08.34Mikmainterwebs!
00:08.42ExekuteI've looked on the interwebs
00:08.53gxamhave you tried the google
00:08.55Mikmalook harder and deeper, and scooter!
00:08.57Exekuteit was hard enough to find it the first time, now Ace changed the website all around
00:09.09nymbiahttp://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=eeMon/
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00:11.38ckknightblah.
00:11.50nymbiaminor issues ck?
00:11.50XuerianMm?
00:11.58Exekutethanks nymbia
00:12.03ckknightyea, apparently
00:12.11nymbiaExekute: sure
00:13.06ckknighthrm
00:13.07sbuXuerian: mhh no idea? :o
00:13.13ckknightguess I could work on the MapNotes part of Cartographer now
00:13.58kergothdamnit.  use closetgnome with closetgnome_mount and closetgnome_gatherer, and use mountme.  set: general, mount -> set:mount, click on herb -> set:herbalism, mountme unmounts -> set:general, walk around a bit, _gatherer puts back the set it had on before switching to herbalism, which is set:mount
00:14.00Xueriansbu: The problem is it couldn't find the class for somebody. That cascaded into a error resulting in a nil row, which in turn catches everything with a big error
00:14.03kergothso now you're walking around in mount gear
00:14.05kergothunmounted
00:14.10XuerianWHY it didn't find the class is what bothers me
00:15.02Industrialgatherer shouldnt touch sets
00:15.07Industrialit should gather
00:15.13kergothhm?
00:15.23kergothgatherer switches to your herbalism set, which is what puts on the +herb gear
00:15.27Xueriansbu: If you reloadui, does it happen again?
00:15.34Industrialyeah, it shouldnt
00:15.52Industrialclosetgnome should
00:15.52ckknightah, fucking a, the beta realms are down
00:15.52Industrial:P
00:15.52kergothof course it should
00:15.56kergothclosetgnome should not know anything about gathering
00:16.12Industrialand gatehrere should not know anything about sets
00:16.14kergothits just not smart enough about set application/unapplication to handle it
00:16.17Industrialglad we agree
00:16.17Industrial:P
00:16.20kergothhm?
00:16.32kergothgatherer tells closetgnome to equip the herbalism set, and when to unequip it
00:16.39Industrialnever mind im bored, im being a pain in the ass again
00:16.40kergothi dont see what piont you're trying to make
00:16.50Tekkubbestbuy has an ebay store *boggle*
00:16.57Industrialkergoth: oh I thought you meant that gatherer itself changed sets
00:17.07kergothno, it calls the cg function to equip a set
00:17.17Industrialk :>
00:17.24kergothits just that handling previous set vs current set and stuff is a mess atm
00:17.40kergothgatherer stores the previous set itself, then something changes set before it reverts to previous, and things get confused
00:18.00kergothhrm
00:18.10Industrialtheres only one option left
00:18.14Industrialyou rewriting gatherer
00:18.15Industrial\io/
00:18.19Industrialer, \o/
00:18.21kergothshh
00:18.29Industrialke ke, just kidding
00:18.34hastePinPoint!
00:18.39kergothi might branch CG though
00:18.43sylvanaarevening
00:19.06kergothmake it handle sets as a stack, making pushing/popping partial sets more sane
00:19.06eternally777I have that StopTheLagness mod installed, but I'm still getting a horrendous increasing memory rate when I mouse over items in my inventory :(
00:19.29kergothlast time i tested it, stopthelagness increased my k/s when mousing over items in the inventory, more than without it
00:19.30kergothbut /shrug
00:20.52Industrialgod im so bored im jumping the tent flaps in the battlemasters area without letting go of the run button, while making spins when in the air, not falling down
00:21.07Industrialhurry. up. queue.
00:21.21haarmMikma, so what's up with popsicle? no idea what it's supposed to do, but I'll try and help you fix it if you want :D
00:23.38Gnarfozhaarm: it brings ChatFrame1 to the front, on login
00:23.46CIA-1703ckknight * r15880 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer - removed debug line in AlphaScale
00:24.09Funkeh`FuBar_TradeCDFu supports salt shackers of LW?
00:24.49Tekkubah what mod shoupd I fix tonight.... ?
00:25.06eternally777Is anyone else finding TBC quality itemlinks in the regular WoW client?
00:25.08Tekkubp == l, fuck qwerty
00:25.20Funkeh`lol
00:25.22TekkubTBC quality?
00:25.47haarmI havn't actually looked at TBC links yet, I guess they have an extra field for sockets ?
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00:27.05ckknightaw, srsly?
00:27.05eternally777Someone in my guild linked the "Prismatic Band of Marksmanship"?
00:27.05ckknightman, I'll have to tack that onto AceComm, then
00:27.05CIA-1703ckknight * r15881 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - makes sure buttons/levels have 100% alpha
00:27.17eternally777+91 Ranked attack power with a +40 Agility enchant?
00:27.25eternally777s/Ranked/ranged
00:27.33eternally777s/Ranked/ranged/
00:27.39eternally777-.- purl you're dumb
00:27.46TekkubI weeded Gratuity down to 50 lines of code (minus library handler code)
00:27.48Tekkub^^
00:27.55kergothperl did exactly waht you asked it to :P
00:28.00eternally777Yeah
00:28.19Tekkubperl, suck my hairy right nut
00:28.23eternally777He should've figured out what I meant.
00:28.30eternally777So has anyone seen or heard of that ring before?
00:28.43TekkubPrismatic? sounds gay
00:29.17eternally777Plus I'm not sure how it could have a +40 agility enchant on it
00:29.25Funkeh`lol purl
00:29.27Funkeh`<3
00:29.31haarmeternally777, every item has a field for an enchant, its a fake link
00:29.52haarmyou can just populate the field when you manually create the item link, and it will display with the enchant
00:30.18haarmand they must have just incremented the code for the +AP random properties until they found an obscenely high one
00:30.26sylvanaarso who coded interview moduile while i was away?
00:30.53CIA-1703jjsheets * r15882 10Jigsaw/ (JigsawCore.lua JigsawQueue.lua JigsawRecipe.lua): Jigsaw - Multiple Queues per character. Fixed a few bugs. Tooltip lines can be clicked on to craft recipes.
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00:31.53ckknighthey vhaarr
00:31.58vhaarrah, hey ckk
00:32.04vhaarrI checked in some locationfu thingy, sec
00:32.12vhaarrckknight: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/15829
00:32.33vhaarrNot sure if that was the right fix, but the problem description is in the commit note.
00:32.52ckknightactually the x == 0 and y == 0 should be taken out
00:33.05kergothhas anyone done a library that just maintains a single instance of the inventory contents in ram that's always kept up to date via events?
00:33.21vhaarrckknight: That's what I thought, but I didn't do it since I figured I might be missing some info.
00:33.26ckknightx == 0 and y == 0 assumes instance
00:33.39vhaarryes
00:33.47ckknightlemme work on it
00:33.49CIA-1703pb_ee1 * r15883 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFuLocale.zhTW.lua:
00:33.49CIA-17FuBar_GroupFu: Corrected GroupFuLocale.zhTW.lua file.
00:33.49CIA-17- Turned "enUs" into "zhTW".
00:34.24vhaarrckknight: oh, and I noticed another thing earlier that you're probably aware of; when deleting panels in FuBar, Jostle doesn't do its thing.
00:34.38vhaarrunit frames and minimap and stuff all remained in the same position.
00:35.01ckknightodd
00:35.04ckknightshouldn't do that.
00:35.13haarmcan you add support for enGB to AceLocale please? :(
00:35.25XuerianIs not having colour really that bad? o.0
00:35.37haarmit sure is :)
00:35.52vhaarrckknight: For some reason when logging in, I had 3 panels (when I logged off before that, I had 1), and so obviously I removed the excess panels, and nothing was jostled back into 1-panel-position.
00:36.01ckknighthrm
00:36.08ckknighthaarm, why?
00:36.13ckknightenGB doesn't exist.
00:36.18haarmohh yes it does
00:36.26vhaarrNot in WoW.
00:36.30ckknightBritish people are merely a figment of your depraved imagination.
00:36.30haarmohhh yes it does!
00:36.42haarmcheck LOCALE_enGB == true :)
00:36.54ckknightassert(GetLocale() == "enUS")
00:37.00KemayoSpeaking as a British person, I can confirm ckknight's statement.
00:37.01vhaarr;)
00:37.02haarmI am a figment of my own imagination, that reminds me of some tool track
00:37.18nevcairieli added SET PreferedLocale "enUS" to my config.wtf to remove one bug i once had with AL
00:37.21nevcairieldont ask me why
00:37.34ckknightwhat bug?
00:37.41haarmyea that GetLocale is broken
00:37.42vhaarrkergoth: Ah, thanks, not really loading up 1.12 enough these days.
00:37.45haarmlocal old_GetLocale = GetLocale; function GetLocale() if (LOCALE_enGB == true) then return "enGB";else return old_GetLocale();end;end
00:37.46nevcairielsome error with enGB doesnt exist
00:37.47haarmtry that one :)
00:37.48kergothvhaarr: np
00:37.57nevcairielwas way back
00:38.02nevcairielwhen i first used Ace2
00:38.05ckknighthaarm, who did that?
00:38.09haarmme
00:38.40ckknightwell, that's your fault.
00:38.47ckknightrequest denied
00:39.00haarmmy fault I'm British? :P
00:39.08vhaarrckknight: Got room for more stuff or do you want a bug tracker?
00:39.09ckknightlern2america
00:39.10vhaarr:P
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00:39.22CIA-1703sylvanaar 07Artack * r15884 10FuBar_SWStatsFu/: FuBar_SWStatsFu: commit template
00:39.22ckknightvhaarr, I like bug trackers
00:39.34haarmnooo, instead I shall insert "u"s into your enUS locales!
00:39.37vhaarrckknight: I set up bugzilla for testing the other day, you can have an admin account if you want.
00:39.57ckknighthaarm, feel free to do so on your local copy.
00:40.22haarmawww, cheer up ckknight, it was a joke :(
00:40.24ckknightthing is, I don't like dealing with all the semantics of bug trackers, takes too much time away from coding
00:40.45ckknighthaarm, basically, don't expect enGB to be supported, seeing as WoW doesn't support it natively
00:40.57ckknightyou can always use dynamic locales
00:40.57Gnarfozhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetLocale
00:41.10ckknightvhaarr does that so he can be all Norweigan
00:41.15vhaarr^^
00:41.31vhaarrMy LocaleAuthority addon is not quite ready yet, though, hm.
00:41.34vhaarrMaybe I should finish it.
00:41.59vhaarrhaarm: With it you could support enGB.
00:42.14vhaarrhaarm: Alot of my interface is currently in norwegian.
00:42.25Azurewrathmhm rabbit, you know about the all white Font in BigWigs thingie? :)
00:42.39vhaarrAzurewrath: Right .. >< Do you have the latest revision?
00:42.43vhaarrI might have fixed it again.
00:43.00Azurewrathmhm i have, but latest reloadui was a few hours ago ;) gimme a sec..
00:44.01CIA-1703sylvanaar 07swsonly * r15885 10Interview/: Interview: sws only for users who want to use the sws module
00:44.14Tekkubcovers of old 80's songs by alt/rock bands are funny
00:44.19Azurewrathvhaarr: nope, not fixed :/
00:44.23vhaarrgah
00:44.50vhaarrAzurewrath: How can I test it?
00:44.54vhaarrWithout raiding.
00:45.05AzurewrathPlugins/test? ;)
00:45.11vhaarrrofl
00:45.11Tekkubbah... what to do
00:45.28vhaarrTekkub: Fix the .. err.. boss announce thingy bugs I reported some time ago.
00:45.38vhaarrStarts with V
00:46.00CIA-1703ckknight * r15887 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: FuBar_LocationFu - fixed instance checking
00:46.38Tekkubmeh, I don't want to work on BW
00:46.39CIA-1703pastamancer * r15888 10Grid/libs/: Grid: Set externals.
00:46.47vhaarrnot BW
00:46.51eternally777wooooooooo
00:46.54haarmhoho, need to test Grid :)
00:46.57Tekkubwhat?
00:47.10vhaarrit's your mod, I don't remember the name
00:47.15vhaarrit cries like "boss dead" in guildchat
00:47.30haarmoh, anyone here work on WowAceUpdater ?
00:47.32Tekkuboh, VFB
00:48.08Tekkubwhat was the issue again? just need moved to Babble 22?
00:49.01Industrialboom clack clack HUH, boom clack clack HUH HAH horde wins \o/
00:49.46vhaarrTekkub: no, 2 things
00:49.57vhaarrTekkub: AceLibrary("Babble-Boss-2.0"), don't wrap it in AceLocale
00:50.00vhaarrerr 2.2
00:50.08vhaarrTekkub: And check for reverse translation in the print
00:50.12vhaarrit only works for enUS atm
00:53.38sbuXuerian: hmm then putt some failsave code for that unknown class thing in and all should be fine? :o
00:53.46XuerianProbably
00:54.10XuerianSbu: did you reload?
00:54.25sbumh wait
00:55.59sbuworks again after reloadning
00:56.18vhaarrAzurewrath: Test my next commit, it's processing now.
00:56.29Azurewrathvhaarr: ok
00:56.32CIA-1703rabbit * r15889 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Properly fix coloring.
00:56.38Xueriansbu: I'm just curious how often this happens
00:56.49Funkeh`omg
00:56.55Funkeh`is grid working on standard wow?
00:57.22maiaFunkeh`: its working on 1.12 *and* TBC
00:58.05Funkeh`WOOT
00:58.07Funkeh`<3
00:58.09Funkeh`brb :))
00:58.10Azurewrathvhaarr: works :)
00:58.15vhaarr^^
00:58.23maiathe only thing you need to do to get Grid working in TBC is to replace AceHook by the TBC version, or remove it from the .toc
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00:59.42ckknightfor TBC users: I recommend just using the Ace2 standalone for TBC
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00:59.47Funkeh`so
00:59.52vurlixso
00:59.53Funkeh`./bye squishy? :P
01:00.08maiackknight: what if the revision number of an embedded AceHook is higher than the one from the Ace2 standalone?
01:00.16ckknightmmm... that'd cause issues.
01:00.30maiawell, thats the problem.
01:00.32vurlixwho can fix the svn:externals on AutoBar
01:00.37ckknighthrm
01:00.40ckknightfair enough
01:00.43ckknightI don't use externals
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01:00.55eternally777vurlix: Did he break it again?
01:00.59maiaunless you always bump the rev number on the branches right after commiting something to the trunk AceHook
01:01.11vurlixyes eternally
01:01.14eternally777vurlix: I'll get it...
01:01.18vhaarrhaha
01:01.24vhaarrtoadkiller broke it *again*?
01:01.39eternally777I fixed it twice
01:01.43vhaarrI know.
01:01.50vurlixseriously
01:02.11eternally777Didn't he rename it?
01:02.11maiackknight: I know this might cause some code duplication, but why not merge both 1.12 and 2.0 Ace into one file? aka just split  each file into a section for 1.12 and one for 2.0?
01:02.16eternally777Or is it still "AutoBar"
01:02.21ckknightI can't, maia
01:02.33ckknightlua 5.1 syntax is backwards-incompatible
01:02.40maiayeah.
01:02.42maiabut.
01:03.00ckknightno but
01:03.24maiayou could take the e.g. TBC AceHook-2.1, wrap a string.find(GetBuildInfo(), "^2%.") around it, then add the 1.12 code after that
01:03.37vhaarrdoesn't work, you get syntax errors
01:03.40haarmhey, Grid is looking nice
01:03.41vhaarryou have to loadstring(...)
01:03.45haarmjust gave it a whirl
01:04.08ckknightI can't, maia
01:04.13ckknight<ckknight> lua 5.1 syntax is backwards-incompatible
01:04.17ckknightcome to understand that sentence.
01:04.39maiackknight: so lua will try to interpret everything?
01:04.43ckknightyes.
01:04.45maiaouch
01:04.49ckknightit's compiled to bytecode first.
01:04.53maiahrm.
01:04.56haarmmaia: will those buttons in Grid be replacable with the "secure" buttons in TBC ?
01:04.58vhaarrckknight: Just wrap it all in a loadstring :P
01:05.01ckknightI could technically use loadstrings, but that's icky.
01:05.04ckknightand I don't want to do that.
01:05.07maiahaarm: they already are secure buttons
01:05.12haarmoh nice :)
01:05.24haarmwell the mod looks good... except... I can't move it! :)
01:05.44maiahaarm: if you look into the TBC subfolder, you'll see that pasta backported the secure frames to 1.12. aka you're using TBC frames in 1.12
01:06.04maiahaarm: you can drag it when clicking on the border, not a unit frame
01:06.24haarmah right, thanks :)
01:06.28kergothvhaarr: if i write a small lib to maintain a single instance of a stack of itemsets, with pushing/popping of full and partial sets, will you use it in CG?  i know its more complecated than you wanted to make it, but itll get rid of some of the issues with it, and i'd be doing it, not you ;)
01:06.32haarmI'll test it in raids for sure
01:07.08Saroznice code maia
01:07.17vurlixwhere can i get a build of Grid to test out?
01:07.29vhaarrkergoth: depends how easy it would be for me to transition :P
01:07.33kergothhehe
01:07.34maiafiles.wowace.com/files/Grid
01:07.39eternally777vurlix: What error are you getting with autobar?
01:07.58maiaSaroz: pastamancer wrote most of the OO code.
01:08.08maiabut yes, nice code indeed (thanks, pasta!)
01:08.16ckknightmmm... pasta
01:08.18pastamancerit was fun
01:08.51vhaarrkergoth: When would CG pop?
01:08.52vurlixeternally777: fails to load PT (periodictable).. but it doesn't have any libs with it at all
01:09.07vhaarrkergoth: It would just keep pushing.
01:09.10eternally777vurlix: downloading directly from the SVN?
01:09.12Funkeh`erm i think there might be something wrong in the latest dewdrop btw, any kind of option with a draggable scale, the scale frame is massive :P
01:09.18haarmoh vhaar, that reminds me, it may be fixed already but when switching between a 2 hander, and a 1h + offhand I'm getting "Item does not go in that slot" errors
01:09.20vurlixeternally777: the zipped version
01:09.41vhaarrhaarm: That's not fixed, no, and is basically the only reason I'm not releasing it.
01:09.42CIA-1703sylvanaar 07swsonly * r15890 10Interview/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Interview: SWS Only Version with embedded libraries
01:09.43vurlixi should probably move to using svn working copies, not a big deal for me
01:10.18haarmactually I lied, the error I was getting is "That slot is empty"
01:10.22haarmjust tested
01:10.34eternally777vurlix: hmm.. wtf
01:10.34vhaarrwell whatever
01:11.43pastamancerJust uploaded Grid to wowi, pending approval.
01:11.49vhaarrckknight: Anyway, since you've got the locationfu thing out, I'll push another one: When a dewdrop level expands, it usually checks if there is enough room before it hits the edge, and if not, it expands in the opposite direction. This doesn't seem to be working for edit boxes.
01:12.16vhaarrckknight: Like type="text", they expand outside the constraints of the UI frame.
01:12.24kergothvhaarr: well, for cg proper, it could simply allow sets that it pushes to fade out of the stack when none of their slots are currently equipped.  obviously thatd need to be a flag to the push function, so that addons like mount/gatherer can push without removing sets from the stack, that way when it pops it'll properly go back to the previous state
01:12.47ckknightvhaarr, hrm.
01:12.50ckknightblah.
01:12.57vhaarrkergoth: see, the words "none of their slots are currently equipped" ruin it.
01:12.58maiadoes anyone have a osx/linux terminal script to recursively remove all files/folders that begin with a . or _? makes it easier to prepare a zip from a svn checkout
01:13.06vhaarrkergoth: since CG doesn't know at all what you're wearing.
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01:13.11arkanesmaia: use svn export
01:13.40maiaarkanes: yeah, but I still have to delete the OSX files that save the folder layout too
01:13.40vhaarrkergoth: or would the library handle that?
01:13.46kergothright, the library would handle all of that
01:13.49vhaarrah
01:13.58kergothitll just maintain a little table associating the currently equipped slots to set ids
01:14.07kergothall under the hood of course
01:14.24kergothall you'd have to be concerned with is calling its push method with the set you supply, most likely
01:14.31vhaarrindeed
01:15.03vhaarrthen I'd be willing to use the library, although I'm not sure it is worth the effort
01:15.07vhaarron your part
01:15.16CIA-1703eternally777 * r15891 10AutoBar/Core.lua:
01:15.16CIA-17AutoBar:
01:15.16CIA-17- wowace.com/files not properly including the zip files, touching this to see if it updates..
01:15.16CIA-17- Added a hyphen to line 1 of Core.lua (so now it's "---" instead of "--")
01:15.20kergothi just got bit by it again earlier, even using no partial sets at all
01:15.35eternally777s/zip files/externals/
01:16.05kergoth<kergoth> damnit.  use closetgnome with closetgnome_mount and closetgnome_gatherer, and use mountme.  set: general, mount -> set:mount, click on herb -> set:herbalism, mountme unmounts -> set:general, walk around a bit, _gatherer puts back the set it had on before switching to herbalism, which is set:mount
01:16.07eternally777Fixed
01:16.07kergoth<kergoth> so now you're walking around in mount gear
01:16.07kergoth<PROTECTED>
01:16.27vhaarr^^
01:16.59eternally777Alright guys, I'll be back in a bit.
01:17.00kergothbesides, i'm bored and feel like coding for once
01:17.06vhaarrhehe don't let me stop you
01:17.14kergoth:)
01:17.15vhaarrkergoth: I'll use the library.
01:18.38Funkeh`ckknight: in the latest dewdrop i seem to have very large scroll frames, any kind of frame with a scrollable bar
01:18.47sylvanaari think that standalone libraries needs a small mod to go with it which can enable/disable all those libraries
01:19.08ckknightFunkeh`, odd, seeing as Dewdrop doesn't touch that
01:19.19ckknightsylvanaar, they're load-on-demand
01:19.30ckknightonly loaded when needed
01:19.39Funkeh`you know what i mean though?
01:19.44ckknightno.
01:19.46kergothsylvanaar: what do you mean?
01:19.47vhaarrckknight: Detach a FBP tablet and go change the Size of the tablet.
01:19.52vhaarrckknight: The slider is enormous.
01:19.58kergothsylvanaar: if the libs are LoD, they wont be loaded when nothing uses them, if thats what you mean
01:19.58Funkeh`yes
01:20.05Funkeh`for example go to cartographer
01:20.07ckknighthrm.
01:20.09Funkeh`and adjust the scale
01:20.12ckknightokay, lemme see
01:20.13ckknight:-P
01:20.16Funkeh`^^
01:20.22sylvanaarkergoth: you know if somone says 'disable all mods' how do you get them enabled again
01:20.38ckknightone-by-one.
01:21.01sylvanaarckknight: i know thats why i mentioned it
01:21.11kergoththe only way to change that would be to give the addon knowledge of the addon name thats supplying its library object
01:21.14kergothugly at best
01:21.30kergothwell, that said, the new X-AceLibrary fields could let you do it
01:21.55sylvanaarkergoth: hmmm, i have seen those but they arent really documented
01:22.30Funkeh`maiah im guessing there is no way to only show select classes on emergincy monitor by hiding the rest, would it be possible to select 'priority' classes so it would display a big X on non prio classes
01:22.53maiaFunkeh`: currently there is no class/subgroup filtering, but there will be shortly
01:23.01Funkeh`oh, then ignore me :)
01:23.03kergothsylvanaar: pretty sure tek intended that field to be used to allow AceLibrary to be able to load the library addons itself if necessary
01:23.11kergothsylvanaar: which would be exactly what you were looking for
01:24.01kergothhas anyone implemented GetAddonMetadata in wowbench yet?
01:24.07kergothor should i implement the .toc parsing?
01:24.33haarmIs there an Ace2d RaidTracker kinda mod yet? Trying to think of something to work on to get myself started learning Ace2 conventions
01:25.16sylvanaarkergoth: they arent all LOD i dont think also, use um SpecialActionEmbed for example
01:25.17CIA-1703ckknight * r15892 10Cartographer/Modules/MapUnhider.lua: Cartographer - made MapUnhider's default dark color less pukish.
01:25.43kergothspecialeventsembed?
01:25.44kergothit is
01:25.55*** join/#wowace skoodat (n=skoodat@d36-16-222.home1.cgocable.net)
01:26.01skoodathey hey everyone
01:26.05ckknighthey skoodat
01:26.08Funkeh`maia: all in all, great work, /salute :)
01:26.14skoodati have an awesome question
01:26.25skoodathow do i make a profile with ace 2
01:26.30skoodatlike in ace 1
01:26.33skoodatlol
01:26.37Funkeh`and whoever else worked on it :)
01:26.41skoodator has it changed?
01:27.09[FH]Birdemanickk - tried out cart all day, found no issues with it to speak of, however, the X to close it is off the map
01:27.13skoodati know it use to be /ace profile.....
01:27.26sylvanaarkergoth: meh yeah it is i thought you had a second question
01:27.28ckknightskoodat, mmm... completely changed
01:27.42ckknight[FH]Birdemani, X to close it
01:27.43ckknight?
01:27.54[FH]Birdemaniyea, to close the map
01:27.59skoodatseee i use chatlog and its turning on the loging to file feature and i think its because thiers no profile for it
01:28.00ckknightwhat about it?
01:28.02ckknightit's in the top-right
01:28.20skoodatthe saved vars file is nil
01:28.22[FH]BirdemaniI have my scale set to 75% and the X is not on the map anymore
01:28.35ckknightmove your world map.
01:28.36[FH]Birdemaniits off to the right floating over my screen
01:28.41ckknightdrag it around
01:28.47[FH]Birdemaniit moves with it
01:28.51[FH]Birdemaniwoa,
01:28.54[FH]Birdemanigot an error
01:29.13ckknightprint missing?
01:29.17[FH]Birdemaniyea
01:29.19ckknightyea
01:29.20ckknightupdate.
01:29.31[FH]Birdemaniyou getting the floating red x?
01:29.48ckknightjust update.
01:29.59[FH]Birdemanik
01:30.11[FH]Birdemanipulling kt atm, so cant
01:30.33Funkeh`maia: for future notice, would be nice to be able to grow it down like squishy ;p
01:30.41SkOODaTok so ckk could ya give me a hand
01:30.47SkOODaTto figure this out'
01:30.50SkOODaTlol
01:31.00SkOODaTace is so confuseing i find
01:31.03ckknightbusy right now.
01:31.13sylvanaarso, how do i get addon loading to work then? what goes in optdepts, embeds, and such now
01:31.22maiaFunkeh`: there's always room for improvement
01:31.24ckknightace is simple, it is you who try to find complexity and fail in doing so
01:31.51SkOODaTman the normal addon code i have no trubble with but i never seem to get ace working lol
01:32.03SkOODaTi am still learning tho
01:32.06SkOODaT:")
01:32.09SkOODaT:)*
01:32.22ckknighttrouble.
01:32.29SkOODaTlol
01:32.39ckknightdid you read the tutorials and all that?
01:32.49SkOODaTi have :)
01:32.56ckknightthe Ace2 ones, I mean
01:33.01ckknightnot the Ace 1.x ones
01:33.10SkOODaTyup :)
01:33.17XuerianDid you look at other ace2 addons?
01:33.25haarmmaia: here's an improvement, don't use so many submenus... they go off the edge of my screen and i can't see any options :)
01:33.29SkOODaTyup lol
01:33.48SkOODaTbasically right now tho i just want to get chatlog to save its vars correct
01:33.52SkOODaTlol
01:34.00haarmor somehow make the submenu's clamped
01:34.24maiahaarm: for now, move the icon to a corner of your fubar
01:34.32vhaarrSkOODaT: Could you please just pastebin your code?
01:34.53haarmyea I worked it out, but just saying as an improvement :)
01:35.22SkOODaTlol its not mine im just trying to fix "chatlog" its in the svn :)
01:35.59SkOODaTthe general settings for it arent saveing it to log or not to log to file
01:36.03haarmlol never seen that yo momma before :)
01:36.45SkOODaTits logging to a file by default and i just would like to turn it off lol
01:36.53sylvanaarand if i want to distribute my mod - i still need to embaed everthing for now, so what are the proper settings to embeds and optdepts in this case
01:37.02SkOODaTother then that its an awesome addon
01:37.04SkOODaT:)
01:37.51SkOODaTpb_ee1 is the author has anyone seen him chatting over the last bit?
01:37.56SkOODaTlol
01:38.11*** part/#wowace maia (n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at)
01:38.15IndustrialI took this level 15 through RFC
01:38.28Industrialgot like 3 kills in one all the time without getting hit
01:38.32Industriallol
01:38.33Industrial:P
01:38.50pb_ee1yop?
01:38.52KemayoAceEvent question: is RegisterEvent throttling appropriate to use if I always want to trigger the handler off the last event received, or should I go for a BucketEvent for that?
01:38.52ckknightwell aren't you the la-dee-dah mr. fancy man?
01:38.59Industrialcharge whirlwind cleave next :P
01:39.11vhaarrKemayo: Bucket.
01:39.28pb_ee1Who said my name? I'm here :D
01:39.44pb_ee1If you wanna talk to me, just say my name (woaaa)
01:40.07SkOODaThey
01:40.09SkOODaTlol
01:40.13SkOODaTerror with ur addon
01:40.16SkOODaTchatlog
01:40.19pb_ee1Yep what's going on ;p
01:40.29SkOODaTits not saveing the vars
01:40.33SkOODaTthe general ones
01:40.36pb_ee1I'm playing atm and I don't have any problems ;p
01:40.38*** join/#wowace MentalPower (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net)
01:40.39pb_ee1Aha?
01:41.02pb_ee1shoo
01:41.02vhaarrGamefaq: ping
01:41.02SkOODaTits logging my chat text to a file and i dont want it to
01:41.03haarmpastamancer: /grid standby .. then /grid standby .. makes it jump from FuBar to the minimap
01:41.06SkOODaTeven tho its all off
01:41.14SkOODaTi looked in the vars file and its nil
01:41.19vhaarrhaarm: That's just how it is with FBP's.
01:41.21pastamancerhaarm: yeah, I have no idea why
01:41.28vhaarrpastamancer: You can't prevent that.
01:41.31haarmoh?
01:41.32vhaarr:/
01:41.33haarmmm
01:41.46pb_ee1SkOODaT: you mean your problem is that you would like to log in the chat file only the logs that you enabled?
01:41.49Gamefaqwhats up whaarr?
01:41.50vhaarrOr, actually you can, in a hackish way.
01:41.53vhaarrBut it's not worth it.
01:41.54SkOODaTno
01:41.59vhaarrGamefaq: test BW again, please.
01:42.00SkOODaTlol
01:42.07haarmfirst one i actually tested on, i was getting some weird lag spikes, looked like it was a OnUpdate freezing periodicly
01:42.10Gamefaqk
01:42.11vhaarrGamefaq: regarding your MSBT bug
01:42.15SkOODaTi mean its by default turning on the "log chat to text"
01:42.28SkOODaTlog chat to file i mean
01:42.40SkOODaTjust like typeing in /chatlog in wow
01:42.53pb_ee1Yep, I don't see the problem (trying to though ;p)
01:43.19SkOODaThere this is what your saved vars file in the main one looks like......
01:43.40SkOODaTChatLogDB = nil
01:43.50SkOODaTno saved vars
01:44.08pb_ee1that's normal ;p
01:44.12pb_ee1well, it seems
01:44.19pb_ee1try to click on the "reset" button
01:44.23SkOODaTi have
01:44.24pb_ee1and changing an option
01:44.27pb_ee1then /reloadui
01:44.45Gamefaqvhaarr: right now we have here 02.45 and i will go sleep soon , i will test it tomorrow
01:44.52SkOODaTive tried it all i am a mod author too so ...
01:44.56vhaarrGamefaq: alright
01:44.58SkOODaTi need it like it was
01:44.59SkOODaT["chatlog"] = false,
01:44.59SkOODaT["combatlog"] = false,
01:44.59SkOODaT["defaultlog"] = true,
01:45.14SkOODaTdo u understand now?
01:45.18SkOODaTlol
01:45.19SkOODaT:)
01:45.24pb_ee1well actually
01:45.29pb_ee1It SEEMS but i'm not sure
01:45.40pb_ee1that acedb only saves variables if they are different from the default
01:46.04SkOODaTlike the box in wow to check to make it log to file is unchecked but it is still logging to wowchatlog.txt
01:46.28XLVIIWhat's that AddOn that logs raid activity?
01:47.03ckknightSkOODaT, you using AceDB properly?
01:47.20SkOODaTsee i dont know do i half to make a profile like the old ace
01:47.23haarmXLVII, funny you should ask that...
01:47.31CIA-1703sayclub * r15893 10Automaton/ (Automaton.toc Locale-koKR.lua): Automaton: Added koKR
01:47.41haarm<haarm> Is there an Ace2d RaidTracker kinda mod yet? Trying to think of something to work on to get myself started learning Ace2
01:47.52haarmno reply, so I'll start work tomorrow :D
01:48.40ckknightk
01:48.54Funkeh`make it work with eqdkp and your golden
01:48.57ckknightSkOODaT, read the wiki
01:49.09pb_ee1ckknight: When I'm using ResetDB('account') it pops me an error
01:49.15ckknight:-(
01:49.27pb_ee1even if I have done RegisterDefaults('account', { something } )
01:49.33SkOODaTcan someone give me the addy to the wiki on acedb commands lol
01:49.43CIA-17wowbench: 03kergoth * r132 10/trunk/api.lua: Implement GetAddOnMetadata.
01:49.54haarmwell... it was almost possible Funkeh`, someone found a bug earlier today, and with a bit of playing we found we could make WoW connect to webservers and pass parameters to urls etc
01:50.01SkOODaTyou deffinately in the right area pb_ee1
01:50.07haarmbut Cairenn reported it :(
01:50.08SkOODaTthats what my issue is
01:50.08kergothokay, now to get GameTooltip.AddFontString so gratuity will work
01:50.10SkOODaT:)
01:50.11Xuerianhaarm: There isn't a fully detailed one yet, but XLoot Monitor includes a functional log that tracks the group/raid
01:50.16pb_ee1SkOODaT: what do you mean? ;)
01:50.18sylvanaarckknight: are you going to invent another mapnotes format, or support one of the existing ones?
01:50.31ckknightprobably a new format.
01:50.50ckknightthat was my thought, at least
01:50.52SkOODaTits not saveing the var to turn off logging to wowchatlog.txt
01:51.03Funkeh`ckknight: did you manage to replicate the massive scrollbars? ;p
01:51.04ckknightSkOODaT, you're not using AceDB properly, then.
01:51.13ckknightnope, Funkeh`
01:51.15SkOODaTsee that was my first qustion
01:51.18SkOODaTlol
01:51.37pb_ee1SkOODaT: Don't have any problems, maybe you should update your release, but I don't think it's coming from this
01:51.40ckknightseems to work in Cartographer, Funkeh`
01:52.00SkOODaTit may be what ckk is saying that i am not uesing acedb right
01:52.05CIA-1703sayclub * r15894 10Automaton/Locale-koKR.lua: Automaton: correct my miss typing
01:52.16SkOODaTdo i half to make a profiel like in ace1?
01:52.34SkOODaTor where is the wiki page on  this
01:52.41SkOODaTthe addy would be so helpfull
01:52.47ckknightSkOODaT, look on the site.
01:52.50vhaarrckknight: I get the problem as well, just get any dewdrop with a type=range and expand it.
01:52.51ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/
01:52.52sylvanaarckknight: perhaps this is a good type of module for Interview - the mapnotes sharing part
01:52.59ckknightvhaarr, I'm not getting it
01:53.02vhaarrweird
01:53.04pb_ee1SkOODaT: Actually you don't even have to make a profile
01:53.13pb_ee1SkOODaT: All should be automaticly done
01:53.14ckknightsylvanaar, no, it's not. it's something that should be done with AceComm
01:53.24Funkeh`urgg >.>
01:53.29sylvanaarckknight: interview uses AceComm
01:53.44ckknightthe mapnotes doesn't need to use interview, imho
01:53.50SkOODaTok ckk is this the page http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0
01:53.55ckknightyes.
01:53.58ckknightread it.
01:54.09SkOODaTcause if it is where do i find a /command to enable profiles if not i am not makoing a mod
01:54.15SkOODaTer addon
01:54.18vhaarrckknight: This commit caused it: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/15806
01:54.21ckknightwe are not talking about that, SkOODaT
01:54.25SkOODaTlol
01:54.27pb_ee1SkOODaT: Please give me more info if you have. I would be pleased to know if you discovered a bug ;) (don't think so but who knows... ;p)
01:54.30SkOODaTsee i cant find it then
01:54.53ckknightSkOODaT, read the goddamn wiki page.
01:55.00ckknightit's clear you haven't.
01:55.19SkOODaTlol
01:55.20sylvanaarthe interview module could let you get share mapnotes with people not running cartographer
01:55.23Gamefaqi think you done it vhaar with self test no errors, test in raid tomorrow...gn8 all :)
01:56.39ckknightvhaarr, if you find a fix for it, great, cause I can't reproduce
01:56.51vhaarrckknight: I just logged in, I'll poke a bit
01:56.56ckknightalright, cool
01:57.29SkOODaTckk i cant not find what ever your suggestion everypage goes back to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0
01:57.38SkOODaT\
01:57.45SkOODaTcould ya just give me the link lol
01:57.56ckknightstop saying lol, goddammit
01:58.02ckknightit's thoroghly pissing me off
01:58.10[Wobin]. o ( lol )
01:58.14ckknightalso, you haven't provided any clear description of your problem
01:58.21ckknightwhich is very disconcerting
01:58.33SkOODaTmsn i dont know how elase to say it
01:58.36ckknightyou just keep talking about your problem and slash commands, without actually describing it.
01:58.36SkOODaTman*
01:58.58SkOODaTckk you obv dont understand
01:58.59ckknighttherefore, I can't help you
01:59.01XuerianSkOODaT: How about you tell us (again) what you're trying to accomplish.
01:59.17SkOODaTlol
01:59.23Funkeh`ask purl i bet he knows
01:59.24SkOODaTim going to cry lol
01:59.28XuerianOne more time.
01:59.35XuerianAnd I'm pretty sure purl is female.
01:59.41SkOODaTok start from beginning
01:59.43kergothwhat do you mean by "enable profiles"?
01:59.44XuerianFor.... a androgenous bot.
01:59.45ckknightyea, purl's female
01:59.52Funkeh`if shes female she must be blonde?
01:59.58ckknightno, not necessarily
02:00.03Xuerian~comfort ckknight
02:00.04purlThere, there, ckknight.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
02:00.07XuerianHm
02:00.08ckknightgranted, I'm sure purl dyes her hair.
02:00.09Xuerian~console ckknight
02:00.10purlACTION gives ckknight the consolation moose
02:00.14XuerianGr.
02:00.15Funkeh`;-)
02:00.17ckknightlol.
02:00.18ckknightmoose
02:00.24[Wobin]WINNAR
02:01.28XuerianSkOODaT: If you mean you want to use profiles with your mod, you need to initialize with AceDB/AceConsole, then register a slash command with aceconsole, it will automatically tack on the profile options
02:02.03vhaarrckknight: sliderFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) -> sliderFrame = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, nil) caused it.
02:02.12ckknighthrm
02:02.13vhaarrckknight: Probably because it doesn't inherit the UI scale from anywhere now.
02:02.14ckknightokay
02:02.14kergothSkOODaT: every ace2 addon that uses acedb/aceconsole supports profiles, and can ahve its profile switched using its chat commands.  what else do you need?
02:02.17vhaarrSo it has to be set manually.
02:02.18ckknightah, alright.
02:02.19SkOODaTok lets start.... first i am not making a mod i am fixing one
02:02.20ckknightfeel free to fix.
02:02.33SkOODaTi am trying to fix "chatlog"
02:02.40XuerianOh, chatlog isn't saving settings, right?
02:02.46XuerianOr saving the log?
02:02.48SkOODaTOMG
02:02.50SkOODaTBIUNGO
02:02.52SkOODaT!!!!
02:02.59ckknightbiungo!
02:03.04SkOODaTBINGO
02:03.04XuerianHey, I read chat, I just can't remember worth shit
02:03.05Xuerian:P
02:03.06SkOODaTlol
02:03.19ckknightindoor voice, SkOODaT
02:03.22ckknightah, classtime
02:03.26XuerianHave fun, ckknight.
02:03.28sylvanaaranyone done any work with codegenerators for ace code?
02:03.33SkOODaTlol took forever
02:03.45XuerianMay thy trip be blessed with fewer loling skoo.
02:04.10XuerianAnyway, SkOODaT, let's trim down the problem. Do settings for chatlog save?
02:04.27SkOODaTXuerian> Oh, chatlog isn't saving settings, right?    this the issue its more spacifically not saveing ChatLogDB right
02:04.56XuerianSounds like the issues prat was having.
02:05.28SkOODaTits logging the chat to a file and i dont want it to
02:05.45SkOODaTno
02:05.49Xueriano.0
02:05.51SkOODaTits ChatLogDB = nil
02:06.09SkOODaTbut ChatLogDBPerChar is working fine :)
02:06.31SkOODaT:) ty so much lol
02:07.02XuerianFor reference, it's much easier to start out in ace2 writing your own mod/working in your own code, than debugging someone else :P
02:07.17SkOODaTi know ive debugged b4 :)
02:07.58SkOODaTive been able to make about 10 of my own addons so far and i self taught myself lua and i dont know how to code lol
02:08.13CIA-1703rabbit * r15895 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0: Fix editbox and slider scaling.
02:08.28Meiun_satana
02:08.48SkOODaTnow im starting to learn ace 2 :)
02:08.54SkOODaTcause i know its nicer
02:08.59SkOODaTon mem :)
02:09.58XuerianJust remember; Ace2 doesn't magically make garbage go away, it just provides a lot of shortcuts that have been refined to not waste much in themselves :)
02:11.39SkOODaTyes and instaed of having 300 different addons uesing the same thing over and over multi addon use the same things :) so all in all its is better
02:12.00Xuerianpb_ee1|play: Is there a problem with ChatLog that you're aware of?
02:12.19SkOODaThe tried to help me but he could find anyhting
02:12.29SkOODaTcoudnt
02:12.30XuerianSo it's working for other people, and not for you?
02:12.31SkOODaT*
02:12.46SkOODaTi guess im not shure
02:12.48pb_ee1|playXuerian: Not at all
02:12.58Kirkburn*** The vote is on! *** Vote for your favourite WoWWiki icon! Please :) http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Proposed_icon#Votes
02:12.59pb_ee1|playI'm using it atm
02:13.01SkOODaThere ill remove my ui and try it
02:13.01XuerianSkOODaT: Are you disembedding?
02:13.05SkOODaTbrb in a few
02:13.25pb_ee1|playI disable an option /script ReloadUI() and the option stays disabled
02:14.07XuerianSounds a lot like the prat problem
02:14.44SkOODaTya but have you looked in your log dir in the wow dir is thier a wowchatlog.txt
02:14.55SkOODaTlol
02:14.58XuerianWow does that. o.0
02:15.02pb_ee1|playyep there is
02:15.04XuerianNot chatlog...
02:15.21SkOODaTif its off thier shouldnt be correct?
02:15.22pb_ee1|playChatLog just adds two checkboxes to do it
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02:15.45pb_ee1|playSkOODaT: I have one, but it is very old (was for testing purpose)
02:16.00SkOODaTlike my check box in game is off/unchecked but it is still logging to the file
02:16.26SkOODaTdel it and play and check again
02:16.42SkOODaTmake shure its in wow in "chatlog"
02:16.46SkOODaToff*
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02:16.56SkOODaTsee if it still get generated
02:17.16SkOODaTi have latest release off the svn too
02:18.07pb_ee1|playI enabled the option: quit it's ok
02:18.22pb_ee1|playnow trying what you told me
02:18.42SkOODaTlol dont enable it
02:18.56SkOODaTif its unchecked it should not log right?
02:19.10SkOODaTwell on mine its unchecked but its still logging it
02:19.11pb_ee1|playI unchecked it
02:19.13pb_ee1|playlogout
02:19.14SkOODaTok
02:19.22SkOODaTdel you log file tho
02:19.24pb_ee1|playlogin atm
02:19.31SkOODaTim trying too with no addons other then yours
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02:20.04SkOODaTsorrry everyone for all my blabing lol
02:20.08SkOODaT:)
02:20.12SkOODaTbut ty too :)
02:20.21pb_ee1|playlet me kill mr.smite and I'll log again to check ;p
02:21.41pb_ee1|playi looged out
02:21.45pb_ee1|playno wowchatlog.txt file
02:21.57pb_ee1|playit's working as expected here
02:22.48SkOODaTok im still logging in im in queue
02:23.03pb_ee1|playtry updating without externals
02:23.10pb_ee1|playand taking each library seperately
02:23.19pb_ee1|playI have 69 AddOns
02:23.28pb_ee1|playBut 40 of them at least are libraries
02:23.40SkOODaTi use libs addon with all of them and i removed the info off your toc
02:23.49SkOODaTcould that be doing it
02:24.03SkOODaTlike i use the stand alone libs folder
02:24.18SkOODaTcause i have like 100 ace addons
02:25.12pb_ee1|playChainging info in my .TOC file shoudln't change anything
02:25.50vhaarrpb_ee1|play: Why do you use .account anyway?
02:26.24vhaarr.profile is the most commonly used database.
02:27.05pb_ee1|playvhaarr: Well I don't really understand what is the difference
02:27.15pb_ee1|playMaybe I should change from account to profile
02:27.43SkOODaTgimme a few to try a few different thing
02:27.44SkOODaTs
02:28.11pb_ee1|playI'll see this tomorrow, I'll change from account to profile
02:28.33vhaarrpb_ee1|play: The difference is that there can be only one account, but many profiles.
02:29.29pb_ee1|playvhaarr: Hum. ChatLog profile only saves three things, I was thinking that these settings would be common to all characters in the same account
02:29.35vhaarrpb_ee1|play: You can create new profiles as you want, like "My ChatLog profile while raiding."
02:29.57pb_ee1|playAha
02:30.03kergothyou should always leave it in control of the user, they can then set their profile to what they want.  if you want, you can make .profile be account by default
02:30.13pb_ee1|playvhaarr: You're right. It is better to use profile than account
02:30.19vhaarrindeed
02:30.33pb_ee1|playkergoth: Thanks for your advice, I'll change it tomorrow
02:30.46vhaarrIn other news, blizzard just increase the XP needed to level from 67 to 68 by 230k in beta.
02:30.51vhaarrincreased*
02:31.04vhaarrThe level cap is still 67, though.
02:32.11[Wobin]ie to keep people busy =P
02:33.08vhaarrWell, it sucks for people who get accounts now, if they want to level.
02:33.27vhaarrThey'll spend like twice the amount of time current level 67'ers did.
02:33.42vhaarrI don't see the point in raising that bar in beta.
02:36.09[Wobin]well if they leave the level cap on
02:36.24[Wobin]and not increase the xp req
02:36.34[Wobin]all the ones near the top will stop playing those characters
02:36.49[Wobin]since they'll want to save all the quests etc til the xp does something for them
02:36.54vhaarrerr .. no
02:36.55vhaarr:P
02:37.15[Wobin]oh, do you still get xp?
02:37.24[Wobin]then it retroactively applies once the cap is removed?
02:37.28vhaarrno, but people don't care
02:37.30vhaarrnoone cares
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02:38.03SkOODaTman i cant figure this out lol im going to go play for a while ill msg ya back on  here if i figure this out but TY all For All The help :):)
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02:38.36[Wobin]lol =P
02:39.04vhaarrMaybe if he focused on explaining things better instead of just laughing continously, we'd understand him.
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02:40.59XuerianI always thought wow saved the chat log by default... >_>
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02:42.54haarm/chatlog will do it for you :)
02:42.59haarmsame as /combatlog
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03:01.13vurlixsilly question.. how do i reset a ace2 mod's settings ingame?
03:04.04arkanesselect the defaul profile
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03:07.53vurlixi'm already using the default profile
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03:12.35vurlixhmm
03:12.50haarmI didn't tip it off ;x
03:12.55vurlixwhen i change my setting profile for Grid, the settings don't load
03:13.06KirkburnYeah you did
03:14.03haarm:(
03:14.08KirkburnHow didit get on the floor otherwise, silly
03:14.20KirkburnI didn't just take it off your head and give it back to you, y'know :)
03:15.13haarmI blame the ClosetGnome
03:15.24haarmhe threw it off!
03:15.25pastamancervurlix: hmm
03:16.26Mi|esw00tness
03:16.48Mi|esgot my stack-aware profiler working
03:16.51Mi|eshttp://digibites.net/profiler.txt
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03:18.20haarmnice Mi|es
03:18.20ag`oh damn
03:18.22KirkburnG'night all
03:18.24ag`I lost my visa
03:18.29ag`dunno where it is
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03:18.39ag`and I have 5 hours until I have to get up
03:18.41ag`ugh
03:18.46ag`sleepy time
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03:39.25vurlixAddOns\Grid\GridStatusName.lua:82: attempt to index local `u' (a nil value)
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03:41.33pastamancerodd, that would mean that rosterlib didn't have the unit
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03:41.48pastamancerwhat were you doing when that error happened?
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03:42.39DrDreerm i forgot i was in bnc lol, ive not even been on this entire time :P
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03:52.14ZerylXuerian: are you here?
03:52.38XuerianUnfortunately.
03:52.42Zeryllol
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03:52.48Zeryloh, sorry, i'll let you be, lol
03:53.02XuerianNah, I'm here, what's up?
03:53.22Zerylin XLootMonitor, i'm getting attempt to call global nilTable errors
03:53.31Zeryli've updated xloot and xlootmonitor to newest versions
03:53.48Zeryland i see in the changelog that you had to add stuff to xlootmonitor due to xloot rollback
03:53.58XuerianThis last update; did you restart wow after it?
03:54.35Zerylthis is the second time i've looked total noob on your addons :(
03:54.49Zeryli haven't, since i've always just reloaded
03:54.58XuerianMost updates can be done with a reload, so that's logical
03:55.15XuerianI did a lot of splitting and remerging and ended up with a fresh file
03:56.03ZerylI love your set of addons there though, :)
03:56.11Xuerian=)
03:56.16ZerylOHH, i do have one other issue, but i don't have the error on hand
03:56.26Zerylself-loot has ALWAYS error'd for me
03:56.38XuerianI think I fixed it this update.
03:56.40XuerianLast night?
03:56.45Zeryland i'm gonna d/c
03:56.47Zerylyep
03:56.49Zeryllast night
03:57.00XuerianShould be fixed, I did three commits on master last night
03:57.12XuerianAfter getting called on not setting variables I used :p
03:57.48Zeryli'll try to ML this trash to see if it works
03:59.14XuerianSounds good =)
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04:12.58Zerylbah, raid called, won't be able to test it tonight.  thanks again for your help xuerian
04:13.13XuerianThere's always another day. sure :p
04:13.32Zerylif it happens, i'll make sure to keep the error, heh.  but if you say you fixed it, i believe you
04:14.22XuerianI don't.... use.... the mod..... >_>
04:14.49Zerylit's an amazing mod.  I wrote a very BASIC version of the announce part a couple months ago
04:15.57Zerylwould it be possible to get a second "button" on the bottom left that you can set to a specific channel for announce? such as raid?
04:16.24XuerianHm? You mean the link all?
04:16.42XuerianAs in a secondary button? o_0
04:16.45Zerylya, but to a static channel so you don't have to click the channel each time (just convenience, nothing major)
04:17.17Zeryli'm lazy, heh
04:17.48XuerianThere's the always link to... menu...
04:18.12XuerianMakes it so it always links to said channel[s] when you left-click the button, and the menu always comes up on right click
04:18.17Xuerian.... i think
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04:18.24Zerylohhh, i'll look at that then
04:18.33Zeryli hadn't seen that part
04:19.00XuerianExhibit A of why I don't document my mods.
04:19.03XuerianPeople talk to me.
04:19.08Xuerian:P
04:19.17ZerylLol, well, i guess that's good
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04:22.36Zerylok, well leading ZG now, so I can test it out for sure
04:22.47XuerianHeh, that works. :p
04:23.10XuerianThe only thing I'm aware of that doesn't work as intended is rolls don't seem to be sorted in descending order.
04:24.22ZerylI was surprised to see that LUA was missing trim, so it wouldn't surprise me that there is no sort in lua
04:25.10Xuerian<PROTECTED>
04:25.11Wobinaside from table.sort?
04:25.21XuerianIt just doesn't handle non-integer hashes
04:25.37Xuerianor non-sequential integer hashes.
04:25.51kergothnon-array sorting wouldnt make any sense
04:25.52Wobinyou could just have a custom sort function
04:26.03kergoththere's no defined order
04:26.35XuerianNon-array sorting?
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04:27.21Xuerianand Wobin, you could, but pairs() and next() don't return anything in a predictable order when iterating over a hash
04:27.53Wobin<PROTECTED>
04:27.57Wobinunhash it then =)
04:28.08Xueriano_0
04:28.27XuerianNot.... really... doable
04:28.35Wobinalas
04:28.55Wobinyou could always put the rolls in a separate table
04:29.08Xuerian{ rollrange = { player1 = roll, player2 = roll, player3 = roll }, rollrange2 = { etc } }
04:30.03Xueriantechnically I'm currently using player = { roll = roll }, because I was intending to store expirations independantly, but dumped it in favor of a capture timeout :P
04:30.17Wobinrollrange = { {player1, roll}, {player2, roll}}?
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04:30.38Xuerian0.o
04:31.14XuerianNo, it seems like it'd work, it's just my brain likes hashes, and lua doesn't
04:32.44Tekkubwho shall I choke?
04:32.55Tekkub*opens blame log in tort
04:35.02XuerianTekkub: What got messed up?
04:35.24Tekkubjust people not using AceDB defaults
04:35.38Tekkubif not self.db.profile.blah then ...
04:35.42Tekkub*eyeroll*
04:36.00Xuerian<PROTECTED>
04:36.48Tekkuband hardcoding in defaults that are already in the game
04:37.08Tekkubhint, if the minimap hasn't been moved, don't need to set it at all
04:37.19Zerylis there a ct_mod equivalent (really just want the coords on the main map)
04:37.37Zeryls/map)/map), in ace/
04:38.04Zerylmap mod, not ct_mod, bah
04:38.31TekkubLocationFu
04:38.48Tekkuband why are we moving Minimap and not MinimapCluster
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04:40.26XuerianHeeee's HOOOOOMMEEE
04:41.12ckknighthey all
04:41.27ckknightindoor voice, Xuerian
04:41.59XuerianBut I am using my indoor voice. I was hollerin' down to the basment. For.... tekkub. yeah. I think.
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04:42.14Xuerian0_o
04:42.15ckknight:-P
04:42.24XuerianI was voice again? Blast!
04:42.37ckknightno, you weren't
04:42.41Xuerian;P
04:42.44ckknightI can remove it even if it doesn't exist
04:42.52XuerianIt's magic o.0
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04:46.49mjc_sooooooooooooooooooo drunk.
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04:48.04ckknight:-(
04:49.30ckknightI need advice for map notes
04:49.48ckknightI'm thinking of just using the raid icons as the POI images
04:49.54ckknightthis a good idea or a bad idea?
04:50.03Zerylgood idea i would think
04:50.10ckknightseems like a good idea to me
04:50.17MentalPowerwhat about the game's PoI icons?
04:50.18ckknightthey're clear, people know em
04:50.20Zerylskull for those elite mobs that can't be killed, lol
04:50.42ckknightMentalPower, what does the game provide?
04:50.53ckknightsee, I don't want a bunch of dots that look alike but differ by color
04:51.04ckknightlike all other map notes things
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04:51.58ckknightby using the raid icons, it can actually represent something
04:52.05ckknightand the icons are nice and distinct
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04:53.53Tekkub~goodideabadidea
04:54.02Tekkubhrm...
04:54.09Tekkub~good idea bad idea
04:54.10purlGood idea bad idea, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry!
04:54.20Tekkubnope...
04:54.27Tekkub~goodidea badidea
04:54.33Tekkubwhere did I hide that?
04:54.38ckknightlistkeys?
04:54.40Tekkub~GI BI
04:54.45ckknight~gibi
04:54.48purl[gibi] 2^30
04:54.52ckknighthehe.
04:55.04Tekkubbuggernuts
04:55.35Tekkubhrm....
04:55.41ckknighthrm, 2.0.1 was released
04:55.43Tekkubfuck it
04:56.19[FH]Birdemaniyea, all the tier 4 shit is out
04:56.39[FH]Birdemanifinally killed KT tonight, where is my beta key now?
04:56.43[FH]Birdemanidamnit
04:56.58ckknightyou don't deserve one.
04:57.02pastamancerbleh, time to add a UPS to the shopping list... my roommate plugged in a space heater and blew the circuit my computer is plugged into
04:57.04ckknightmwahaha
04:57.11[FH]Birdemani:(
04:57.15ckknightsucks, pasta
04:57.21[FH]Birdemanidont think all the US guild invites went out yet
04:57.44pastamancerit's only 45F out even!
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05:02.41fathomis there any way to get the "you have unread mail" thing to go away when i know i don't have mail?
05:04.34pastamancerhmmm
05:05.12pastamancerI'm using :AcquireDBNamespace in Grid for each module's db, but self.db in each module doesn't appear to be updated when I switch profiles
05:05.51ckknightcan other people get on beta?
05:06.10ckknightI'm trying to log on but it says my pasword is wrong
05:06.48ckknightnvm, found the issue
05:19.43Silviu-anyone with 100% finished patch can help seed for 5 mins ? ;)
05:20.08Tekkubwheeeeee
05:20.20TekkubSqueenix is abut 50% Pratted now
05:20.54Silviu-enGB
05:21.05ckknightPratted?
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05:34.34Tekkubckk, split all the functions out into little modules
05:34.55Tekkubeveryone got their hands on Squeenix and added features I never wanted
05:35.08TekkubI just wanted a square map, nothin else
05:35.26Tekkubbut like this all those other bishies can have their shit too
05:37.09ckknight_ah, okay
05:37.20ckknight_I'm glad I'm making Cartographer modularized
05:38.00ckknight_so much simpler to handle
05:38.02ckknight_and understand
05:38.10ckknight_AlphaMap is a big, ugly mess
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05:41.18sylvanaar=) - the ugly part
05:43.58pastamancerI feel really dirty calling rawset(self.db, "profile", nil) in each module, but that appears to be the only way to reset the self.db.profile if the active profile is changed
05:45.50ckknighthrm
05:45.53ckknightyea, that's about right.
05:46.31pastamancerideally, SetProfile on the core of the addon would invalidate the cached profiles in the namespaces
05:46.42pastamancerIMO at least
05:47.03ckknighthrm
05:47.07pastamancerit is... non-intuitive currently
05:47.08ckknightlemme look into it.
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05:55.42CIA-1703ckknight * r15896 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - profile switching now switches namespaces properly.
05:56.33nymbiaok, time for me to babble a bit
05:56.39nymbiain manufac, right now
05:57.14CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r15897 10Ace2/Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - profile switching now switches namespaces properly.
05:57.15ckknightpastamancer, ;-)
05:57.25nymbiait scans the list of spells in a tradeskill once on the first level
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05:57.52nymbiathe second level it scans it again, and also queries the spells directly for number and difficulty information
05:58.20nymbiaand on the third level it checks the difficulty etc info again, as well as scanning reagents
05:58.50nymbiathis is all done by using simple tradeskill function calls, and it feels bogged down when the whole dewdrop has to refresh
05:59.34pastamancerckknight: I'll update now and make sure it works ;)
05:59.38nymbiai know it'd be faster to store some or all of this info in a local table
06:00.00nymbiabut will it be faster enough to be worth the extra memory footprint?
06:00.35pastamancerckknight: yay
06:01.22nymbia(since i didnt get any resounding "no!"s, i'm gonna try it and see)
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06:02.42nymbiaoh and that way i can store em by sub-category and not have to loop through the whole table on the second level..
06:02.51nymbiak i think i've talked myself into it ;)
06:03.47pastamancerhum... I can't find a 'register account' link for Trac
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07:01.47Grinehey ppl
07:03.28ckknighthey Grine
07:07.02Kala|SleepOh man. Major Makoto is a total pedo
07:07.19ckknight?
07:07.59KalamadiGhost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, season 2, episode 17
07:08.11KalamadiBoy says to her, "can complete cyborgs...have sex?"
07:08.16KalamadiAnd she replies, "wanna try?"
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07:17.18[Liquidor]What time is it over in US?
07:17.53KalamadiWhich zone?
07:17.59KalamadiIt's 2:17 AM EST
07:24.22KalamadiOh! Oh! They made a mistake! When Batou's reading a German book, he flips the pages backwards
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07:32.45CIA-1703pastamancer * r15898 10Grid/ (10 files):
07:32.45CIA-17Grid:
07:32.45CIA-17- Better support for switching profiles without reloading the UI.
07:32.46CIA-17- Status modules use self.core instead of the global GridStatus.
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07:43.56[Liquidor]hi ckknight
07:44.47ckknight_my router doesn't like bittorrent
07:44.49[Liquidor]What's the function called to activate/deactivate addons while playing followed by a reloadui ?
07:45.40ckknight<PROTECTED>
07:45.41ckknight<PROTECTED>
07:45.50ckknight:-P
07:45.58[Liquidor]hehe don't got ace2 running :)
07:46.08ckknightlamer.
07:46.15ckknighthow do you not have ace2 running?
07:46.35ckknight<PROTECTED>
07:47.18[Liquidor]EnableAddOn reversed eh?
07:47.22ckknightyep
07:47.24ckknightamazing, eh?
07:47.27[Liquidor]eh
07:47.36[Liquidor]:)
07:47.50[Liquidor]Just saw an API for LoadAddon which is why I asked
07:48.34[Liquidor]Well ckknight, let me know of a really usefull addon for a mage using the Ace2 lib
07:48.43[Liquidor]And I shall use it :|
07:48.54ckknightI dunno, I don't play WoW
07:50.01[Liquidor]Same on 1st part
07:50.25[Liquidor]Anything on the SVN used by mages?
07:51.01[Liquidor]Or Battleground related
07:52.58Funkeh`capping i find very nice for bg's
07:53.35[Liquidor]Tell me more, what does it do?
07:53.37[Liquidor]Timers?
07:53.59Funkeh`pvp bg timers
07:54.07Funkeh`for capping bases etc
07:54.23Silviu-I like the wsg functionality target the flagcarrier :>
07:54.28Silviu-And colour by class
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07:55.11Funkeh`do you know that LV sends sync messages for its bg mod? for bases capped etc? are they jsut totally stupid or what?
07:56.00weabwhat if you reloadui during a match, or join in the middle of one!
07:56.40Silviu-LV ?
07:56.43[Liquidor]LV?
07:56.50Funkeh`weab are you talking about after tbc?
07:57.04Funkeh`la vendetta
07:57.19Silviu-never used it
07:57.24Funkeh`neither do i
07:57.31Funkeh`but i was looking at the sync channel
07:57.46Silviu-Didin`t know :)
07:58.14Funkeh`in bgs it shows a message what bases are capped wherever you are there is no out of range, it doesnt use the combatlog its jsut a message
07:58.24Funkeh`why you need to sync that is beyond me >.>
07:58.49Silviu-To have a little higher increase in mem :P
07:58.55Funkeh`lol
07:59.23[Liquidor]I'd like a little addon for rep calculation
07:59.26[Liquidor]for bgs
07:59.44Funkeh`ckknight, out of curiousity, are sync messages processed even if you dont have the specific addon?
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08:02.02ckknightwith AceComm?
08:02.12ckknightif you don't have the addon to recognize it, it will stop ASAP
08:02.37Funkeh`no i mean, will wow use any kind of memory on reading it
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08:03.21[Ammo]it probably wil
08:03.32Funkeh`so for example if you join a 20 man pug of people using the worst syncing addons ever are you gonna end up with a higher memory usage
08:04.03[Ammo]they're events fired
08:04.11[Ammo]every event fired by blizzard eats some mem, not much though
08:04.58Funkeh`so its a good thing that i analyse my raid guilds sync channel now and then and tell them off for using shit addons? ;p
08:05.00[Liquidor]I think he's talking about the synced messages. The manuial ones
08:05.01sylvanaarFunkeh`: the only thing you can do, is have only 1 addon listening on the addon message event and route them yourself
08:06.11[Liquidor]What kind of event should I register for when entering a bg?
08:06.20[Liquidor]...and leaving one
08:07.55sylvanaar[Liquidor]: ?
08:07.59[Liquidor]Yes?
08:08.13ckknightit will technically use memory, just by the nature of WoW
08:08.38[Liquidor]I'm going to create a small addon for registering the honor and rep I get in the Battlegrounds
08:08.48Funkeh`i see
08:08.51[Liquidor]And record them each BG to make statistics
08:09.10Funkeh`another one was, if you have someone one your ignore list, do you still recieve sync messages from them? ;p
08:09.41[Liquidor]Don't think so. Everything having arg2 = your ignored buddy is a nono I guess
08:09.54Funkeh`liquidor you can use bable and do a zone check afaik
08:10.01ckknight[Liquidor], use GloryLib.
08:10.07ckknightit already does all that.
08:10.13Funkeh`^^
08:10.18[Liquidor]I'll look at it
08:10.23[Liquidor]url to the svn?
08:10.23ckknightGlory-2.0
08:10.36ckknighthttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/
08:10.47Fiskerok that's just lame
08:10.59Fiskerthey upped the exp requirements even more in TBC :I
08:11.06Funkeh`;p
08:11.08sylvanaarFunkeh`: any addon that listens to the addon_message event will get its handler run for every addon message - even if its not its own
08:11.32Funkeh`so its multiplied by the amount of addons that listen?
08:11.57sylvanaaryes
08:12.00[Liquidor]Fisker: ppl leveled way to fast
08:12.05[Liquidor]levelled*
08:12.22Fiskerthat's because the exp rate is throttled during the test
08:12.32[Liquidor]Oh btw you Eng. folks, when do you use 'to' or 'too' ? I've never found out really and it bothers me sometimes :-/
08:12.33Funkeh`yes but not everyone has the time to spend 24/7 for a week leveling ;p
08:12.44Fiskerand it wasn't way too fast
08:13.07Fiskerto the batmobile!
08:13.14ckknight[Liquidor], it's too
08:13.16ckknighttoo => also
08:13.18FiskerDon't abandon me too?
08:13.21Fisker^^
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08:14.28Funkeh`'to do something' 'take me with you too' ;p
08:14.31[Liquidor](to ==to a destination) != (too != (to == to a destination)) eh?
08:14.49Fiskersomething like that
08:15.29[Liquidor]Uhm it looks wrong
08:15.45KalamadiI like apples; I like apples, too.
08:15.53[Liquidor](true) != (false != (true))
08:15.54KalamadiRather, I like bananas, too.
08:15.56Funkeh`nn
08:16.08[Liquidor]Is this true or false? (true) != (false != (true))
08:16.14pastamancerwell now you're just comparing apples and bananas!
08:16.15KalamadiShe too likes fruits.
08:16.34sylvanaarfor some reason i felt like writing xslt today.. i made a transform for this http://ace.pastey.net/2067
08:17.10[Liquidor]Uhm "Way to much" or "Way too much".... "To much of that" or "Too much of that" ?
08:17.24ckknight[Liquidor], that's false
08:17.29pastamancertoo in both cases
08:17.30ckknighttoo much of that.
08:17.34[Liquidor]ye it's false aight? thought so
08:17.40ckknighttoo when dealing with sizes
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08:17.52sylvanaarwhich turns it into http://ace.pastey.net/2068
08:17.55KalamadiShe said it was too big.
08:18.01Fiskeromg almost 1 million exp for 68
08:18.02KalamadiToo = also, in excess
08:18.30Fiskerthis is going to be so retarded without throttled exp
08:18.53[Liquidor]1 million exp from 1 to 68 or 67 to 68 ????
08:19.36[Liquidor]Mus tbe 67 - 68 since I need 200.000 for 57-58
08:19.41[Liquidor]That's sick :>
08:19.53pastamancer[Liquidor]: http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/to.html
08:20.19pastamancerthe rest of the site is pretty handy too
08:20.25sylvanaarcomplete with xml=schema for aceoptions
08:20.38[Liquidor]Thank you pastamancer
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08:21.41pastamancersylvanaar: you must be a masochist
08:21.48CIA-1703kemayo * r15899 10Quixote/ (. Quixote-1.0/ Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua Quixote.toc):
08:21.48CIA-17Quixote:
08:21.48CIA-17- Initial import.
08:21.48CIA-17- Quixote is a library that stands between the blizzard questlog functions and an addon. API isn't fixed yet.
08:22.01sylvanaarpastamancer: cant you tell that yet
08:22.47pastamancernow all you need is a xlst to generate documentation from the menu definition! :)
08:23.10pastamancers/(l)(s)/$2$2/
08:23.21ckknightKemayo, interesting idea
08:23.26pastamanceroh, is purl not here?
08:23.41ckknightpastamancer, you can't do complex regexes.
08:23.44ckknight~2+2
08:23.45purl4
08:23.46sylvanaarthats easy if you define the menu in xml
08:23.48ckknightpurl's here.
08:23.52pastamanceraww
08:24.33pastamanceris s/// just direct-string replacement or can it handle non-capturing patterns?
08:24.48sylvanaarwhich is super=easy using xml-spy
08:25.16CIA-1703kemayo * r15900 10Quixote/ (. Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua): Quixote: Set externals and keywords.
08:25.34[Liquidor]But ckknight :(
08:26.06pastamancersylvanaar: for extra fun, you could write some lua which would convert an existing AceOptions table to xml so that it could be attacked with xslt
08:26.33pastamancer:)
08:27.13CIA-1703kemayo * r15901 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (. FuBar_QuestsFu.toc QuestsFu.lua lib/): FuBar_QuestsFu: Update to use Quixote (new library for quest handling).
08:28.06Kemayockknight: It seemed worth doing.  It's basically just ripping the quest-log scanning stuff out of QuestsFu so other people can use it if they want to, after all.
08:29.08ckknight:-)
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08:29.35KemayoNot that there's a huge market for quest-log things.  But... :)
08:29.43ckknightmodularization ftw.
08:30.00ckknightthat's why I made Tourist and Jostle and all that
08:30.02pastamancerI agree
08:31.37KemayoNext step: add in fancy addon-channels stuff for more data sharing with others who're using an addon that uses the library.
08:33.48ckknightI think I know what we need, Kemayo
08:33.55ckknightan Ace2 version of PartyQuests
08:34.25ckknighthehe
08:36.00[Liquidor]Possible to do .getn on subtables aight?
08:36.43ckknighttables are tables.
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08:36.55Fiskerckknight you got the newest beta ?
08:38.00KemayoPfft, like I have time to group with anyone.  :-P
08:38.14sylvanaarpastamancer: i left out the AceLocale in my pastey http://ace.pastey.net/2069
08:39.23pastamancersylvanaar: your translation is missing an end :p
08:39.35sylvanaarKemayo: make it a module for Interview
08:39.58sylvanaarpastamancer: end
08:40.15ckknightyes, Fisker
08:40.57Fiskerdo you have a horde in orgrimmar?
08:41.10Kemayosylvanaar: Where is this Interview of which you speak?
08:41.53sylvanaarKemayo: in the svn, branches/Inteview/dev
08:42.16KemayoAh, branches...
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08:43.21Fiskerfor some reason all terrain in orgrimmar is gone
08:43.34KemayoFisker: Sounds like an improvement...
08:43.42Fiskerit isn't
08:43.52KemayoEasier to find your way around, at least. :)
08:44.21Fiskerisn't that either :D
08:44.33FiskerI have a FPS at 1
08:45.18sylvanaarpastamancer: actually, what you need now is soem C# or some other app to let you build your menu and then save it as xml
08:45.57pastamancersylvanaar: please, think of the mac users!
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08:47.32ckknightFisker, watching Nip/Tuck :-P
08:47.45pastamancerhonestly though, most of the AceOptions menu in Grid is programmatically generated.  I have no idea how useful an AceOptions table generator would be except that it would keep you out of trouble for a bit :p
08:48.15pastamancerdo most addons have a relatively static options table?
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08:48.46KemayoMost do, I think.
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08:49.04sylvanaarAnd theres lots of boilerplate
08:50.40sylvanaaroh, i know - make the UI in LUA
08:50.48pastamancerhaha
08:51.17sylvanaarhaha
08:51.28pastamanceris there a tk library for lua?
08:51.43pastamanceror were you thinking of doing it in-game?
08:52.24sylvanaarwherever
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08:53.15sylvanaarbuildable ingame dewdrop menus then write out saved variables.. meh
08:53.55pastamancertoo easy :p
08:54.31pastamancerit needs more... enterprise-y-ness
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08:56.02sylvanaarwell, it could let you hook up the handler routines in game, or generate stubs for you later
08:57.40pastamanceractually, an in-game dewdrop editor with live or semi-live preview would probably be pretty handy, especially if it dumped the code into some kind of editbox that could be copied from rather than having to dig through the savedvariables
08:58.22sylvanaarcomplete with wiki friendly code comments or a wiki xslt
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09:00.07sylvanaarpastamancer: wanna take a crack at a modifyable dewdrop menu?
09:00.34pastamancermodifyable dewdrop has been done, see the Status -> Auras menu in Grid
09:01.17sylvanaarI mean where you can set the text, type and whatever
09:02.12pastamanceroh
09:02.28pastamancermaybe once Grid settles down
09:02.35sylvanaaradd text.., add range.. add group..
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09:03.09pastamancerI've honestly been trying to come up with ideas so outrageous that you'd cry "stop!"
09:03.12pastamancer:p
09:03.26sylvanaarreally
09:03.38pastamancerwell, I was serious about an in-game dewdrop editor being handy
09:03.56sylvanaarthats what i was talking about
09:04.29CIA-1703tekkub * r15902 10Lern2Spell/: Lern2Spell - Removed externals from root folder
09:04.48pastamancerpersonally, I'd get more use out of a lua version of JavaDoc, and I already have projects planned for after Grid
09:05.18sylvanaardoesnt it already exist
09:05.32pastamancerit might, I haven't found it though
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09:05.42sylvanaarit was talked about last night
09:05.48[FH]Birdemanickk - i updated and the X to close the map is still floating
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09:06.03pastamanceroh, google knows where it is
09:06.06ckknightfloating?
09:06.09[FH]Birdemaniyea
09:06.14[FH]Birdemanii have my scaling at 75
09:06.16ckknightscreenshot?
09:06.20[FH]Birdemanisec
09:07.06Tekkubso this is gonna sound stupid but...
09:07.31Tekkubanyone know a good service where I can upload my music and stream it on demand elsewhere?
09:07.50TekkubNOT a music store that'll let me stream their partial library in their shitty software
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09:09.51[FH]Birdemanithere ya go ckk
09:10.18sylvanaarhow do you seach the chat buffer in mirc
09:11.02ckknightweird
09:11.05ckknightI don't use oSkin
09:11.11ckknightdoes it happen without oSkin?
09:11.14[FH]Birdemanii use oskin and locationfu
09:11.19[FH]Birdemanilet me turn off oskin
09:12.17[FH]Birdemaniyea, its oskin
09:13.01ckknightoSkin should be fixed, then
09:13.15sylvanaarhttp://akx.ath.cx/API.html
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09:16.07Soleahh poop
09:19.59Soleso I just got a BC beta key
09:20.00Soleyay for me
09:20.03Solebout time O_O
09:20.25[FH]Birdemanihow did you get it?
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09:20.43cncfanaticsyo all
09:20.48snurre-moo
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09:21.29SoleI got an addon author's key from ui.worldofwar.net
09:21.43cncfanatics:o gz :)
09:21.57Solewell I got an email from em saying I got one, still waiting for blizz email with the actuall key >_<
09:22.14Solealready installing BC...leaked torrent ftw
09:23.03cncfanaticsu don't need it leaked, everyone can dl at beta.worldofwarcraft.com :p
09:23.17Solewell I dl it about 3 weeks ago
09:23.28[Liquidor]Oh I know what I'm gonna create now ckknight; a BGLog \o/
09:23.36Fiskerok even from a fresh install i got no terrain in orgrimmar :/
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09:53.47CIA-1703laric * r15903 10!!!Libs/ (. !!!Libs.toc):
09:53.47CIA-17!!!Libs:
09:53.48CIA-17- Added Quixote-1.0
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09:57.54[Liquidor]Okay then how come you say that having Ace2 lib in more than 1 addon won't affect the memory usage as if there was only 1?
09:58.14cncfanaticsnot after the first garbage collect
09:58.22nymbiabecause the new one overwrites the references to the old, and the old gets garbage collected
09:59.14MoonWolf[Liquidor], read this http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns.
09:59.16nymbiatechnically there IS extra memory usage, but only at load time. after that, all but the newest one are gone and forgotten
09:59.20[Liquidor]Okay so setting the same variable twice with 2 diff. values won't take twice as much memory?
09:59.51ckknighttouchy subject
09:59.52nymbiathat depends ;)
10:00.06MoonWolf[Liquidor], for the sake of this argument yes
10:00.07ckknightbasically, after collectgarbage(), it takes only the space of the newest
10:00.24ckknightand collectgarbage() is called after all addons are loaded anyway
10:00.28[Liquidor]Just asking cause I've always wondered
10:00.59MoonWolfand possibly at some page during load
10:01.14MoonWolfs/page/place/
10:01.16[Liquidor]What about LoadOnDemand, any way to use that to reduce some usage?
10:01.21CIA-1703kemayo * r15904 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Add missing return values to IsQuestItem.
10:01.39nymbiawhat's quixote?
10:01.44ckknight[Liquidor], for standalone libs, that's already done
10:01.47ckknightnymbia, quest lib
10:01.51[Liquidor]I mean, I'm going to make a log for my battlegrounds but it shouldn't start logging etc before a visit to a BG has been in order
10:02.31MoonWolfmost authors that will make their addons LoD where applicable.
10:02.59nymbiaas far as memory usage by the code itself goes, yes LoD will help.
10:03.21[Liquidor]Okay great
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10:03.55[Liquidor]So I can create a lib to store data as well and then have a subaddon with LoD logging bgs aight?
10:04.19CIA-1703rabbit * r15905 10Quixote/ (Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua Quixote.toc): Quixote: Set LoD, X-AceLibrary and fix dependency checking.
10:05.54nymbiayeah liquidor
10:09.41CIA-1703sylvanaar 07Sylvanaar * r15906 10Ace2/ (. ace-options.xsd sample-options.xml tablegen.xslt): The xml-schema for AceOptions, and an xslt to generate the lua code from the xml representation defined in the schema
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10:21.59ToadkillerSay, does anyone have any idea how I can make the bogus lower case Autobar disapear from the files section?
10:23.29vhaarrPoke cladhaire.
10:25.06sylvanaarpastamancer: still around?
10:26.22[Liquidor]Uhm possible to uncomment a line?
10:26.38[Liquidor]or make only some part of a line commented?
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10:30.09Kalamadi-- comment
10:30.40[Liquidor]--[[ comment ]] code ?
10:30.55KalamadiCorrect.
10:31.01[Liquidor]Super
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10:40.01yacoobOoooh, Grid is out?
10:40.05Stormy2whois pastamancer
10:40.49Stormy2yep, just tried it out, configuration is a bit obscure, but seem to work
10:41.34yacoob*bounce*bounce*
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10:41.40grzesieqjust noticed that too
10:41.49grzesieq<PROTECTED>
10:41.57yacoob*bounce*bounce*bounce*
10:42.02yacoob...wait, I haven't tested it yet.
10:42.25KalamadiIt's freaking awesome, let me tell you.
10:42.43yacoob*bounce*?
10:43.14yacoobwai! wai!
10:43.49nevcairielmorning
10:46.25Soleeven though Im a rogue, I gotta say Grid looks awesome
10:48.02yacoobI'll test it as a replacement for my current raidframes :)
10:48.14yacoobspeaking of which, will praid work in TBC, or does it have to be rewritten?
10:50.16KalamadiIt'll work.
10:50.26KalamadiI was writted for TBC, then backported to 1.12
10:50.33Kalamadis/writted/written/
10:51.00KalamadiSod it, I'm tired
10:51.23vhaarrKalamadi: Note that he said praid.
10:51.40KalamadiYes.
10:51.57vhaarrPerfectRaid was not written for TBC and then backported for 1.12.
10:52.04vhaarrLike you said.
10:53.06nevcairieli dont know any addon which would qualify for that
10:53.49vhaarrGrid, AFAIK.
10:54.20grzesieqI desperately need a new laptop :(
10:54.30KalamadiYou could sell organs.
10:54.55grzesieqI almost have enough money for the new MBP.
10:55.28yacoobwell, organs. Sperm :)
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11:02.05Neriak_hi
11:02.41Solehai
11:03.56KalamadiHeil!
11:04.49KalamadiI am 1 meg from completing a 1.49 gig download. Sadness.
11:05.46Sole>_<
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11:11.42Silviu-Anyone with 100% finished download on enGB patch for BC can start and seed for a while ? ;)
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11:11.57nevcairiel_still_ the same problem?
11:12.11Silviu-yes 99% ... from last night
11:12.20Silviu-I begin to go mad :>
11:12.39cncfanaticswe can't seed it :(
11:12.53cncfanaticswish I cld, but if I try to seed the dl'er thinks I got 4% of the file
11:13.18Silviu-Hmm :(
11:13.30Silviu-354MB / 356
11:13.42Silviu-2 MB bliz ... c`mon give me :)
11:13.42cncfanaticsye, u miss 2 megs at 4% of the file :p
11:13.54cncfanaticsand the blizz seed refuses to upload at all
11:14.28Silviu-And i tryed to start the patch but ofc it does not work :)
11:17.09Silviu-But nobody actually finished it ?
11:18.14cncfanaticsu can't finish it
11:20.07nevcairielsomehow the torrent is messed up
11:20.19RoyalIs there an event called for switching a FuBar plugin to minimap (toggling 'Attach to minimap')?
11:20.43RoyalSince I wanna use different icons for FuBar attached and minimap attached
11:22.11nevcairielSilviu- the .torrent for the patch i have works fine, it has 15 full copies of the patch, i *think* blizzard updated their patcher at some point with a working torrent
11:22.15nevcairielguess you need to try again
11:22.31Silviu-redownload ?
11:22.44Silviu-Only the downloder ?
11:22.46Silviu-Or full file
11:23.05nevcairielat least the downloader, and see what it says about your incremental file
11:23.13Silviu-Ok i try
11:23.56Silviu-Hmm is bigger in size
11:24.09nevcairielwtf, my /var/lib is 43Gig
11:24.14nevcairielwhat now oO
11:24.53nevcairieloh lol, 34G apache logs :D
11:25.39Neronix^^
11:25.42KalamadiHaha, slick.
11:25.53Kala|SleepSince I have nothing else to do.
11:27.40Soleheh so I just finished dling the latest BC patch, but prob wont get my key til the next few working days :(
11:28.02Silviu-Sole i hate u, US ?
11:28.05Soleyar
11:28.27Soleus client torrents are all like 170kb/s minimum
11:28.42cncfanaticsmy max was 100kb/s
11:28.52cncfanaticsEU FTW !
11:28.57NeronixDoes TBC need a whole new WoW installation? (6GB + the 2GB of content it has)
11:29.04Neronixor just 2GB?
11:29.11Solei just downloaded 3 or 4 patches
11:29.15SoleI think new installation
11:29.22Silviu-At eu is one big patch 356 MB
11:29.24Neronixgah, need to resize my wow partition
11:29.28Silviu-And yes new instalation
11:29.34Soleyea new install
11:29.50SoleI had to dl a 276mb patch
11:30.10Solethen a 20mb, 30mb and 10mb or something along those lines
11:30.33yacoob*blink* apache logs in /var/lib? What kind of sick setup is that?
11:30.50nevcairieldunno
11:31.08nevcairielseem to be old logs, too
11:32.23[Wobin]wow
11:32.44[Wobin]I can't believe ui.wow has dependancy dropdown selections in the ui edit page that list every single addon in the system
11:33.46hastesounds like hassle to upload add ons
11:34.00haste*scroll* *scroll* *scroll* /wrists
11:35.09[Wobin]oh the dropdowns are compact
11:35.16[Wobin]it just takes aaaaages to populate them all
11:38.43hastewould be better to use AJAX, and make it search while creating the dropdown then
11:38.47nevcairieltyping in the addon name, and getting a choice of addons which would match your dep name would be kinda cooler
11:38.50nevcairielyeah :)
11:38.58hastelike on CTProfiles
11:39.01Mikma*yawn*
11:39.14hasteIt's a handy system for populating large drop-downs
11:40.55nevcairiela friend of mine wanted a more configurable actionbar addon, but still with good performance .. basicly full configuration for the buttons, but no funky stuff, and i had to admit, i dont know any except DAB which allow FULL control over the buttons, can anyone fill in my blank there ? :)
11:40.55yacoobAjax!
11:41.04yacoobbut the dropdown must have round corners :D
11:41.31Mikmanevcairiel: dab and maybe(?) flexbar2 ..
11:41.48nevcairielso i was thinking about doing my own for BC
11:41.49nevcairiel:)
11:41.54[Wobin]I <3 AJAX
11:42.09[Wobin]as long as you don't have to worry about cross browser compat
11:42.22cncfanaticsflexbar nevcairiel :p
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11:42.35cncfanaticsand flexbar2 when its out for TBC, which will have reasonable mem usage
11:42.38nevcairielflexbar1 is .. well you know :)
11:42.46cncfanaticsfb1 is a memory eater
11:42.49cncfanaticsfb2 ain't :p
11:43.05Mikmafuxbar lolo!
11:43.12cncfanatics1700kb mem usage & 0.2 fps reducement atm
11:43.27Varaklong question inc:...
11:43.29Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/modscreen-5681-11822-1-Array%5Bltitle%5D.html
11:43.34Mikmacoder ui! loooool
11:43.34Varak<PROTECTED>
11:43.36Varak...im making myself at least a bit clear :)
11:43.37VarakThing is that I would like to apply this look to entire SCT (not just SCTD) and I cant find any option for it. Any ideas how to do this?
11:45.06Varakwell that killed the conversation... :D
11:45.13MikmaVarak: MSBT
11:45.18Mikma~MSBT
11:45.25purlrumour has it, msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html
11:45.25nevcairielyay my second addon on WoWI
11:45.41Mikmanevcairiel: which one? :)
11:45.55hasteI also use MSBT!
11:45.56Solegnite
11:45.58nevcairielHunterBars
11:45.59nevcairiel:D
11:46.01Solei use neither!
11:46.03Mikmammkay!
11:46.09Soletoo much screen clutter for me
11:46.11Solei like it clean
11:46.19Varakthanks ill chces that out
11:47.16Varakhow does MSBT stand in mem usage and FPS eating pelase?
11:47.27hasteI tried playing on C'Thun with the default UI yesterday
11:47.34MikmaVarak: yes
11:47.35hasteand no damage text at all
11:47.56hastewasn't sure if I was doing anything at all
11:48.01nevcairiellol
11:48.14hasteI didn't play my char either
11:49.09CIA-1703nymbia * r15909 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
11:49.09CIA-17Manufac:
11:49.09CIA-17- Major code optimization, much faster when clicking items deep in menus.
11:49.15Mikmahaste: i played with my friends rogue some time ago
11:49.25Mikmai was with onyxia with it and nefa
11:49.35Mikmaholy crap i hate rogues :D
11:49.43Mikma1.4k crits all the time
11:49.50Mikmalike every second hit was 1.4k +
11:49.58hastecombat dagger + PvE = win
11:50.03Mikmaaye
11:50.08Mikmathat's what he uses
11:50.18nymbiaif anyone has auctioneer, i'd appreciate if you tested that new version of manufac with it.. i rewrote everything and don't really wanna check auctioneer right now ;)
11:50.20nevcairieldoes cthun have a "back" ?
11:50.26hasteyes
11:50.29[Wobin]I just got some nice daggers and respecced
11:50.46[Wobin]I'll have to see what it's like
11:51.13hastecombat dagger is shit to farm with tho
11:51.15Mikma[Wobin]: it's like 1400 700 1400 700 2400 1400 700
11:51.28[Wobin]haste: yeah?
11:51.35hasteMikma: you do know that 70% of the damage he does is white damage :p ?
11:51.43Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5648-1-stinkyqueue.html
11:51.54Mikmahaste: yes and that is why i wanted to diss his items :D
11:51.56haste[Wobin]: combat dagger is only good for sustained dps in end-game PvE
11:52.04[Wobin]I have a 24.55% chance to crit
11:52.08[Wobin]that's crazytalk
11:52.46hasteI have 25.54%
11:52.57hasteand 20% to hit + 2% from Hand of Justice
11:53.10[Wobin]hm, I don't know what my to hit is
11:53.11hastebut I'm combat swords
11:53.32[Wobin]I wish they'd put those stats on the character page
11:53.39hastethey are in TBC tho'
11:53.43[Wobin]I was combat swords
11:53.51[Wobin]but I had like.. a Zulian Slicer and dalrends
11:54.11[Wobin]now I have Fang of the faceless and the Quiraji sacrificial dagger
11:54.22nevcairielthat sounds better :)
11:54.39[Wobin]hehe =)
11:54.50[Wobin]Although, if I get the sand polished mace....
11:54.54MikmaFrom:   dianeewab@kbct.bems.boeing.com
11:54.54MikmaSubject: know this is private
11:55.06hastespam :D
11:55.10Mikmaand alot of pictures of viagra
11:55.15haste[Wobin]: well, get 4% hit at least
11:55.20hastethen you don't miss on specials
11:55.26haste24%, and you don't miss on the off-hand
11:55.41[Wobin]oh I probably have that
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11:56.21[Wobin]I have about 6%
11:56.27[Wobin]extra
11:56.42[Wobin]well. from all the blooddrenched stuff
11:56.56[Wobin]and blademaster leggings
11:56.58nevcairieldoes agi give you hit?
11:57.01[Wobin]which is -really- good for that...
11:57.08[Wobin](that level item)
11:57.24[Wobin]+1% to hit and crit and +2% dodge
11:57.36nevcairieli need new pants for my feral equip, i only have the devilsaur thingy
11:57.48[Wobin]nevcairiel: I can never recall how stats affect me
11:58.12hasteit doesn't give hit afaik
11:58.45[Wobin]dex goes towards AP, doesn't it?
11:58.50[Wobin]er agi
11:58.55nevcairielyeah, and crit
11:58.58[Wobin]where did I get dex from? =P
11:59.07nevcairield2 ? :p
11:59.11[Wobin]probably =)
11:59.11hasteeverquest?
11:59.16[Wobin]never played it
11:59.24neriakcool I got a BC beta :) *chhers*
11:59.26[Wobin]WoW was my first MMORPG
11:59.40nevcairielhooow?
11:59.44[Wobin]neriak: sob
11:59.49[Wobin]still waiting for my key to be sent
11:59.50hasteyou get AP, armor, dodge and crit from agi
12:00.06neriak:P only selected by ui.worldofwar.net - mail's sent to blizzard
12:00.20[Wobin]But if you have an addon on Wowi, you can get a key
12:00.26[Wobin]neriak: Me too =)
12:00.32neriakeye know ;)
12:00.32nevcairielso in that definition, i have a key as well
12:00.35[Wobin]neriak: Plus the one from Wowi
12:00.39nevcairielonly that it will arrive next week :(
12:00.41[Wobin]<.<
12:00.42[Wobin]>.>
12:00.57[Wobin]Damnit, Blizzard still hasn't sent the key
12:01.00neriaki also signed up on the WoWI beta
12:01.07[Wobin]from the ui.wow contest
12:01.23neriakbut that was before i've seen the beta giveaway form uiwow
12:01.25hastecompiling libqt4 takes ages :(
12:01.27[Wobin]yeah
12:01.54neriakwell i'm patient anyway .. comes time, comes key
12:02.15[Wobin]*whine*
12:02.18neriakhrhr
12:03.28nevcairielwant some cheese with that ? :)
12:04.41hastehttp://youtube.com/watch?v=yQqtKsbkQQE :D
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12:05.17CIA-17Renamed FB2_ActionInRangeStateChanged to FB2_ActionIsUsableStateChanged, it now
12:05.19CIA-17triggers whenever a spell becomes usable/unusable, be it for range, mana, or
12:06.31nymbiasee ya guys :)
12:06.42nevcairiellol haste, first time porn user, heh
12:07.15hasteNHK is great :D
12:08.49[Liquidor]heh fun anime :>
12:13.59CIA-1703mikma * r15911 10!!!Libs/!!!Libs.toc: !!!Libs: Removed Quixote from .toc to eliminate the error popping up in load. Kemayo test your addons before adding them in ;)
12:15.08vhaarrMikma: Kemayo didn't add it to !!!Libs.
12:15.22Mikmawell it's still bugged hah
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12:17.11MikmaLaric: well same goes for you. test the addons before adding them in
12:17.48nevcairielheh
12:21.10vhaarrAnyone know if the exclamation mark used for quests is available as a icon?
12:21.46[Wobin]vhaarr: look for the texture used in the beginning hints to new players
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12:21.53vhaarraah
12:21.56vhaarrthanks wobin
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12:33.09yacoobFirst feat req for grid: make it autoscale the border on raid size change
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12:34.59Mikmanevcairiel: Bartender3
12:35.12nevcairielMikma: ?
12:35.22Mikmanevcairiel: for BC. i made my mind and it's BT3
12:35.27nevcairielah.
12:35.36nevcairielI was wondering ..
12:35.41nevcairielwith all the secure templates
12:35.42Mikmayes?
12:35.52nevcairieli dont know if its possible to reuse the buttons like we do now
12:36.15nevcairielbecause they are secured now
12:36.24haarmnevcairiel, i can test some things if you want, i have access to a friend of a friends account for beta
12:36.33Mikmaso you're saying we need to create new buttons to use?
12:36.44nevcairielhaarm: thx but nvm, will get beta access next week
12:36.50haarmok :)
12:36.59Mikmanevcairiel: let's go into same server aye?
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12:37.15nevcairieli wanted to ask the other EU guys where they hang around
12:37.18MikmaTempest Keep or so
12:37.25Mikmackknight is hanging out there
12:37.29haarmI'm on Bloodmyst
12:37.39haarmisn't Tempest keep the one where everyone starts from lvl 1 ?
12:37.53Mikmahmm don't know
12:37.56nevcairielyou can copy your chars as well
12:38.08nevcairielto tempest keep, i mean
12:38.09nevcairiel:)
12:38.15haarmPvE ?
12:38.18Angeristempest keep is the only english pve
12:38.22haarmah yea
12:38.23Mikmacool
12:38.27MikmaTempest Keep that is then :D
12:38.36haarmI knew I chose Bloodmyst for a reason :)
12:38.37nevcairielnot being killed while standing around coding, yay
12:38.38nevcairiel:D
12:38.45Mikmahehe
12:38.59nevcairielwonder what happens if i copy my char now ..
12:39.03nevcairielthe option is there ...
12:39.06nevcairielno, i wont :)
12:39.17Mikmai was about to try it too but didn't wan't to until i get my key
12:39.42haarmnev, when beta first came out I copied my char, (still no key for this account), and now my number of copies has gone back up to 4... so who knows
12:39.44vhaarrWe're at least 4 on Tempest Keep.
12:40.14nevcairieldo we have enough for some instance action ? :P
12:40.16Angerisyou can copy your char now without a problem afaik
12:40.22vhaarrnevcairiel: No :)
12:40.29vhaarrnevcairiel: Only me and Ammo are >60.
12:40.33nevcairielheh
12:40.43Mikmalet's see then
12:40.45Mikmai'll copy my char
12:40.49vhaarrThere's also Miles, ag and ckk.
12:40.57haarmThey should re-enable copying premades, but make the premades lvl 60 with tier2 or something
12:41.27Angerismy name is Theodor on tempest keep,if anyone needs any help or anything
12:41.44nevcairieli do have to rename my char, or?
12:42.00Angerisi couldnt use the same name
12:42.09Angerisfirst it said name violation
12:42.23Angerisi tried it anyway and it said its not available
12:42.28Angerisand i chose another one
12:42.45MikmaCharacter Copy Success!
12:42.45haarmAngeris, it did that with everyone
12:42.50Mikmaso my char is now in tempest keep
12:43.00MikmaTricia from  Nordrassil (PvE)   to   Tempest Keep (PvE)
12:43.19haarmMikma, it'll probably ask you to rename the first time you log in
12:43.29Mikmahaarm: then it will be Mikma
12:43.32AKXXuerian
12:43.33haarm:D
12:43.40AKXXuerian, fsck you and your XLootMaster
12:43.53[Liquidor]hehe AKX
12:44.20haarmI have a mod called LootMaster ;x but it's not Ace2, I use it for displaying my guilds dkp in game when they roll for loot
12:45.30neriakso basically you guys are saying that in beta test I can make a copy of my existings char to test them on the beta servers?
12:45.41haarmyes neriak
12:45.44Mikmawell now i have to wait for my key :)
12:45.45neriakweee
12:45.48Angerisaaaa
12:45.49neriakthat's sweet
12:45.53Angerisdamn,i forgot to tell you
12:45.58Angerisbring runecloth!
12:46.01haarmyes
12:46.03haarm100-150
12:46.10Mikma...
12:46.12Mikmathanks :)
12:46.19haarmyou need it to level to 330 First Aid :p
12:46.24Mikmatoo late already hehe
12:46.28sbuAKX: huh?
12:46.33Angerisim 323/375 and cant find too many runecloth :/
12:46.35Mikmawell d'oh i'll just transfer my mule there too HAHA
12:46.39nevcairielgood plan, /me packs runecloth
12:46.41Mikmai got 3 copies left
12:46.44AngerisMikma you can copy your char again :P
12:46.47haarmyea Mikma wait
12:46.49Angeristhe same char
12:46.54haarmborrow some money from the guild bank or something
12:46.58Mikmaoh ok then :D
12:47.00haarmso you have enough for a flying mount too :D
12:47.04nevcairieldont you get 5k anyway?
12:47.07Angerisdamn,97.5 mb patch
12:47.08haarmno?
12:47.11Angerisno
12:47.14Mikmagood thing that you can copy it again
12:47.21nevcairielsomeone said you get 5k gold when you copy
12:47.27haarmthey lied
12:47.28Angerisno
12:47.37Angerisand you cant buy a mount,lvl cap is 67
12:47.47Mikmameh
12:47.48nevcairielmaybe some day you can
12:48.04Mikmai'll just go now and transfer all the runecloth
12:48.06Angerismaybe
12:48.18haarmMikma, why don't you wait til you have the key
12:48.26haarmmaybe more stuff you want to transfer but forgot about
12:48.38haarmsome other profession levelling stuff
12:48.40Mikmahaarm: i will now, but first i will transfer the runecloths so i don't forget em
12:48.47haarmlol ok
12:49.22Angerisif you are an alchemist,bring some dreamfoils too
12:49.41haarmand some elmental <whatever>
12:50.01haarmthose greater protection pots get you quite a few levels
12:50.29Mikmaheh well i transfered 300+ runecloths. that will do propably
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12:50.46Angerisyou can sell for money !
12:50.49haarmand if you're a herbalist, make sure you take every Dreaming Glory you can, they're rare and needed to skill up
12:51.05haarm(skill up alchemy later)
12:51.20Angerishmm,i havent found a dreaming glory
12:51.24Angerisyet
12:51.32haarmexactly, but there's pots that need them to skill u0
12:51.33haarmup
12:51.53haarmI got most of mine killing bog lords, then skinning them with herbalism
12:52.50sbu'morning
12:52.51sbu:o
12:53.34haarmhi
12:53.45Angeriskek [13:56] <Syltelabb> lol, the 60 BE loladin just passed me with his epic hawkstrider mount
12:53.59Angeristhat guy must have no brainshells left :P
12:54.14Mikmawhich one
12:54.19Mikmathe syltelabb or the loladin
12:54.22haarmthink I read about "first level 60 be paladin" like a week ago ;x
12:54.26Angeristhe loladin
12:54.33nevcairiellol
12:54.38Angerislvl 60 from 1 with epic mount
12:55.00[FH]Birdemanithere was a level 62 be pally a few weeks ago
12:55.06[FH]Birdemanii believe he is at the cap already
12:55.16[FH]Birdemanion hte US hellfyre realm
12:55.20NeronixI might roll a BE loladin
12:55.24Angeristhe thing is where did he find money to buy the epic mount
12:55.26Neronixjust to see what it's like
12:55.32[FH]Birdemanimoney is easy
12:55.34NeronixLast time I played a loladin was 1.8
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12:55.58Angerisor he transfered anotehr char with money
12:55.59NeronixIf they actually made the class fun, then I'll be bowled over
12:56.22Rophyanyone know where to contact Fenlis?
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12:57.06vhaarrRophy: He's on IRC often.
12:57.14vhaarrSince we told him to join :)
12:57.37RophyI'm just unlucky to miss him?
12:57.44vhaarr~seen fenlis
12:58.01purlfenlis <n=jungseop@125.190.25.23> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 17h 18s ago, saying: 'Thanks. kergoth..'.
12:58.02haarmAngeris, copy a char with money, and level one without /
12:58.02haarm?
12:58.35Angeristhats what i thought,after i asked how he found money for epic mount :P
12:58.35Mikmai will sure in hell make draenei shaman
12:58.40Mikmame heart shaman
12:58.48Angerisand they seems to changed the fel reavers in the patch
12:58.51Angeristo a bear
12:59.20Mikmaso Grim Batol ain't open? :P
12:59.41vhaarrno
12:59.55Mikmai wonder will it ever be
13:00.10vhaarrhope so :/
13:00.11Gngskbet it'll be in a content patch
13:00.13vhaarrand Uldum
13:00.23Mikmayeah uldum!
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13:00.31[Wobin]wow
13:00.34GngskUldum won't be until after another expansion
13:00.39[Wobin]Xcode is lousy with nested lists
13:00.40vhaarrckknight: you around?
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13:01.54vhaarrKind of annoying how they introduce more and more reputation factions.
13:02.03vhaarrLike the Cenarion Expedition ...
13:02.26vhaarrI'm already Exalted with Cenarion Hold, those bastards should just have it be the same faction.
13:02.53vhaarrAnd Honor Hold could well be Stormwind or something.
13:03.38sbumhhh, i read an article about this some weeks ago
13:03.49sbu(about grinding rep/.../...)
13:04.10Gngsksome people like it...
13:04.15sbuand that this is _very_ important for mmorpg because of inflation :/
13:04.50Mikmaguess what guys!!! and girls
13:04.56Mikmai'm modofying Bartender2 lol
13:05.02sbuomg :/
13:05.17sbuthink its time to move back to blizz actionbras ;p
13:05.36Gngskditto
13:05.37yacoobactionbras. I like the word.
13:05.37sbumodifying what exactly? :p
13:05.42sbuoops :)
13:06.30yacoob'Snap open: opens up to 5 action bras, but caster loses 200 hp for each'
13:06.43Angerisdid you check the tier4 sets?
13:07.06sbucheck what?
13:07.24sbuthe looks? yep - more stuff? found no source yet
13:07.40sbuoh
13:07.42sbui see
13:08.10sbupriest damage set <3
13:08.13Angerisstats too
13:08.17Angerison worldofraids
13:08.33sbuyap
13:09.10sbuewww
13:09.17sbupriest dmg set looks like t3?
13:09.31vhaarrtemporarily, obviously
13:09.42haarmpriest damage set? brb :D
13:09.55Angerisyes it does
13:10.01sbumhhh
13:10.07sbuwell stats are not that great
13:10.09Mikmanevcairiel: so, what do you think, shall be bury BT then for Burning Crusade?
13:10.13Angerisand the stats on healin set isnt that of an upgrade
13:10.36sbuchest is 77 +heal, look at robes of guardian saint / t3
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13:11.03[Wobin]yay
13:11.23[Wobin]my guildbank has offered to lend me the entire raidchest worth of cash for the character copy =P
13:11.29haarmurgh
13:11.51haarmI think I'll be wearing half my priest random lvl 60 gear at 70 :(
13:11.58sbuyep
13:12.27haarmalready PvE shadow, and tbh.. why the fuck are they giving us crit?
13:13.07Higdursince they can say "hey,look, you got a nuker stat!"
13:13.10sbumhh i guess its not final then
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13:13.21Higdureven though it's irrelevant
13:13.22sbucause the stats arent that good
13:13.25sbuyah?
13:13.29haarmHigdur, I can already say that with +650 shadow damage :D
13:13.29sbuwhy?
13:13.33nevcairielMikma: we could still do a very simple lightweight actionbar addon, but simply with creating new buttons
13:13.40Higdurhaarm: hehe, true
13:13.57sbuhmmm Mikma: whats the problem w/ BT and TBC?
13:13.59Mikmanevcairiel: well there's alot of actionbar-addons that do the exactly same thing
13:14.07nevcairielthere are?
13:14.15Mikmasbu: what nevcairiel said, the buttons are secure and they can't be reused
13:14.23[FH]Birdemanishadow priests get more benefits from dots now, and flay cna tick for 1800
13:14.33[FH]Birdemaniits not the same game anymore, dont look at it as you do now
13:14.35sbuMikma: reused as in moved?
13:14.48[FH]Birdemanialso, there are gems that you can upgrade it with, and those cost budget points
13:14.50nevcairielMikma: thats not 100% sure tho
13:14.50Mikmasbu: no reuse as using blizzards buttons
13:15.06nevcairielmaybe it will work
13:15.07haarm[FH]Birdemani, they changed MF scaling from 43 -> 65 -> 81 -> 57 :/
13:15.10Mikmanevcairiel: well, some do use Bartender2 with TBC and only thing i have heard is stances ain't working
13:15.27nevcairielbecause they dont use the secure funcs
13:15.31Mikma[Ammo] is one that uses BT2 in TBC and he says it works perfectly for him
13:15.38sbuMikma: ah, so you have to create your own actionbars instead of modifiying blizzard ones?
13:15.38nevcairielso cant change bars in combat
13:15.54Mikmasbu: so it seems, but we'll have to wait for next weeks with nevcairiel to see it
13:16.32haarmand flay already ticks for 1800... on Thaddius :D
13:16.34Angeris<3 shadowfiend
13:16.43Angerishttp://www.untamedguild.net/images/shadowfiend/holyhealing.jpg
13:16.49Angerishttp://www.untamedguild.net/images/shadowfiend/shadowdmgsfweave.jpg
13:17.01Angerischeck what mana the shadowfiend gives back
13:17.11CIA-1703neriak 07Neriak * r15913 10gfxToggle/gfxToggle/ (. gfxToggle.lua libs/):
13:17.11CIA-17gfxToggle:
13:17.11CIA-17- added externals and svn:keywords
13:17.11CIA-1703mikma * r15914 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: PetBar and ShapeBar will now swap buttons like ActionBars do. This ain't a 'rows' feature, it will only change the buttonplaces to match ActionBars
13:17.17sbuwhooo
13:17.20sbuWTB shadowfiend
13:17.44sbuand w/o shadowform/weaving? :p
13:17.44Mikmanevcairiel: is it ok for you if i put you as an author too in BT2?
13:17.53sbuah
13:17.54haarmthat's quite interesting, shadowfiend benefits from +shadow damage?
13:18.00sbu2300, mh
13:18.08Angerisentirely
13:18.19Angerisits with 2 specs
13:18.25haarmlol at the 2nd
13:18.27sbuso shadowpriest is finally going be a real DD replacement
13:18.27Angerisstill great with either of them
13:18.28Higdurshadowfiend sounds sick
13:18.42haarmand i have more +damage than that, it's gonna get nerfed for sure :D
13:18.43[Wobin]What is shadowfielnd?
13:18.46nevcairielMikma: sure go ahead
13:18.48Angerishe gets more mana back than he spents :P
13:18.50haarmit's a priests evocation wobin
13:18.57vhaarrThe shadowfiend rocks.
13:19.00haarmlvl 66 skill
13:19.03[Wobin]A minion?
13:19.05vhaarryes
13:19.08vhaarr5min CD
13:19.13haarmvharr, well, not if the mob is shadow immune ;p
13:19.13[Wobin]O.O
13:19.18Angerisa little pet
13:19.26vhaarrobviously
13:19.43[Wobin]O.O
13:20.38Mikmanevcairiel: i also removed my email and website from there hehe ;)
13:21.47vhaarrAnyone else having problems connecting to Curse-gaming?
13:21.51vhaarr"Fatal error: MySQL connection error."
13:22.43MikmaMAHADEVA!
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13:22.52Higdurtogether with Vampiric Touch that seems to fix shadow priests horrible mana
13:23.14Mikmawhat mana
13:23.22Mikmai got 8k with my priest and it still ain't enough
13:23.25axxoshadow priests shouldn't exist
13:23.30Angeris!!!
13:23.34axxogief my warlock healing spells damnit
13:23.43Angeris52 points in shadow :P
13:23.53CIA-1703mikma * r15915 10Bartender2/Bartender2.toc: Bartender2: Giving complete credit for the person who deserves it. Added nevcairiel as author
13:23.54Higdurmana pool is overrated... wtb mp5/spi
13:24.03Mikmanevcairiel: keep your eyes open for next CIA-17 message ;D
13:24.13Mikmayes, next, not that but next!
13:24.46CIA-1703mikma * r15916 10/branches/Bartender3/: Bartender3: Creating folder
13:24.51nevcairiellol
13:25.06MikmaBC here we come!
13:25.20cncfanaticsbt3 ?
13:25.23cncfanaticsworking version or ?
13:25.26Mikmano
13:25.35Mikmait's just a placeholder for version to come
13:25.39cncfanaticsoki :)
13:25.44axxoi miss self-cast modifier in bartender
13:25.46haarm<Mikma> i got 8k with my priest and it still ain't enough <-- i have 7100 in healing gear buffed and 6500 in shadow gear buffed :(
13:25.52cncfanaticshope u have lots of luck & fun coding it :p
13:26.12Mikmaaxxo: try EgoCast
13:26.22cncfanaticshaarm, i got 6.5k mana  buffed, I never run oom before a boss is dead :p (mage)
13:26.24axxowilldo, thanks
13:26.36haarmyea i'm not a mage, i'm a shadowpriest :)
13:26.40haarmi last about 3 minutes
13:26.43Mikmasame, same
13:26.43haarmfull out
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13:26.46Azurewrathcncfanatics: Frost or Alliance? :p
13:26.49Mikmain pvp it won't last for long lol
13:26.58mjc_frost?
13:26.59mjc_lol
13:27.02Mikmamy tactic is to mild SW:P around, and ALOT! :D
13:27.19haarmwell Mikma, at least in pve with the 41 point talent, we'll be an innervate magnet
13:27.26Mikmahaarm: so i got 6.3k mana unbuffed and 8k mana buffed. usually i pvp with unbuffed
13:27.48haarmwtf.. how do you get 1.7k from buffs? some paladin shit?
13:27.53cncfanaticsfire, horde
13:27.54Mikmawell yeah
13:28.02Mikmawith the same spec i was always 8k mana within raid
13:28.03haarmhorde ftw baby
13:28.08Mikmaseemed like it never ended
13:28.10Azurewrathcncfanatics: hehe, ok then :)
13:28.18cncfanaticsspi & mp5 ftw
13:28.31cncfanaticsoh, and crits that give mana back
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13:29.07haarmwell there really is a lack of spi / mp5 on damage gear, and mages / locks have ways to get their mana back
13:29.15Higduryup...
13:29.17Azurewrathah well.. it's ok.. the only real hard Fight manawise is Anub
13:29.18haarmso /cheer for shadowfiend, and /cheer for vampiric touch
13:29.25Higdurhence the shadowfiend and vt
13:29.46cncfanaticswell, another thing, i'm only at twins also :p
13:29.52cncfanaticsso no mana heavy naxx fights yet
13:30.05haarmonly really mana heavy fight so far has been patch
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13:30.21haarmtry doing that with no holy talents ;)
13:30.32Higdurwell, lunch time
13:30.38vhaarrI was #3 on our healing meters as shadow on Patchwerk one time.
13:30.58haarmno +healing talents so you can't downrank as much, and no reduced mana talents
13:31.36vhaarrbut indeed you really notice the lack of holy talents on patchwerk.
13:32.03haarmto be honest, only way i survived as ot1 healer was by taking 2nd flask for another 2k mana regen :/
13:32.45haarmbut now i'm relegated to ot3 and chief warlock renewer and patch shadow debuffer
13:32.50vhaarrJust use Dark Runes, Mana Pots and NDB's, and regen pots before the fight, and you can do it fine as a shadow spec.
13:33.10haarmnight dragons and runes share a cooldown catagory
13:33.28vhaarrah, they didn't do that before, I think.
13:33.29haarmvhaarr are you horde or alliance ?
13:33.33vhaarrally
13:33.38haarmyea, easymode
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13:33.52vhaarrheh
13:33.56haarmblessing of wisdom anyone? please? :D
13:34.13vhaarrmana-tide?
13:34.16haarmnot to mention a nice +armor aura on your tanks
13:34.27[Wobin]does mana tide even rate? =P
13:34.31worfmay i ask: the beta key giveaway of WoWInterface.com - anybody who got a key from there? i'm just curious if there will be some reply somewhen or not. ..
13:34.31haarmno
13:34.32haarmlol
13:34.44Mikmawhops, oh well
13:34.48haarmworf, Cairenn has been sorting people out with keys yes
13:34.57haarmfor mod authors at least
13:35.22worfin that case i'll just wait... :)
13:35.32worfand hope :)
13:35.34haarm<Cairenn> next batch of names (93) just submitted
13:35.38haarmsome time last night
13:35.48worfah... k...
13:36.02CIA-1703mikma 07Bartender3 * r15917 10Bartender3/ (13 files): Bartender3: Bartender2 code 'turned' into Bartender3. Don't use!
13:36.15Gngskooh sweet
13:36.17Gngskcan't wait to check tha tout
13:36.19worfi start to beliefe that there is hope for blizzard... :)
13:36.20mjc_heh
13:36.26worf-v +f
13:36.32mjc_I could use a beta key ;(
13:36.35CIA-1703cwdg * r15918 10Denial2/ (Denial2.toc Denial2Locale-zhCN.lua): Denial2: -Add Chinese local.
13:37.04haarmhmm, do you think Shadowfiend can crit ?
13:37.06haarm:D
13:37.30mjc_?
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13:38.05NeronixArsehole I know IRL (If you're from Khadgar US, this is Broond, and he is as much an arsehole in real ife as he is ingame): "You owe me a key! you WELL can't test, 'cause you're a fucking noob! Lv47? /spit!"
13:38.24worfmjc_: well, actually from a player point of view i have no intentions of trying TBC before release. but i could never forgive myself not trying to port my addons during the beta and then something important not working just because i didn't try in time
13:38.27NeronixI'm no noob, I just can't juggle time >.>
13:39.05worfmjc_: and i did whine enough allready in various forums :D
13:39.17Angerislol,damn patch,yestrday lvl 61 was473k xp and now its 600000 something
13:39.21mjc_I haven't whined at all
13:39.47mjc_Angeris: heh, did they de-level anyone ?
13:39.57worfmjc_: but i did. on a very technical level tough :D
13:40.24mjc_worf: yeah if I were to whine about it, it'd be a neat one :P
13:40.54Angerisa friend send he lost 80k xp
13:41.27Angeristhank god i went to 61,now it needs 580k xp :P
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13:42.11CIA-1703wobin * r15920 10MrPlow/ (MrPlow.lua MrPlow.toc):
13:42.11CIA-17MrPlow - Fixed the plow direction bug
13:42.11CIA-17- Reordered the options to be more useful.
13:43.45haste[Wobin]: rewrite it to handle bags as seperate bags now!
13:44.07[Wobin]why do I want to do that? =P
13:44.34haste'cause it looks strange with two agi pots in the top of one bag, and at the bottom of the bag under :p
13:44.46[Wobin]Go port OneBag =P
13:44.54hasteport OneBag :p ?
13:45.00[Wobin]well, use onebag then
13:45.10hastebut I love the default inventory :(
13:45.21[Wobin]Too restrictive it is
13:45.32[Wobin]can you move the bag windows in TBC?
13:45.40hastedon't think so
13:45.43[Wobin]See?
13:45.48[Wobin]Worst possible interface
13:46.00[Wobin](well maybe not worst)
13:46.02hasteI don't want to move my bags tho'
13:46.12hasteand I don't want them to be _all_ in one
13:46.19[Wobin]You just -think- you don't want to =)
13:46.25hasteI should write some AdvanceBagsPlus replacement
13:46.30CIA-1703mikma 07Bartender3 * r15922 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3.lua Options.lua): Bartender3: All 'function Bartender:something()' changed into 'function Bartender3:something()' drycoded and will propably explode
13:46.36[Wobin]Call it PlowKing! =)
13:46.47hasteI don't like how PlowKing looks :p
13:46.54hasteor I didn't at least :p
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13:46.59[Wobin]That's still up to debate anyway
13:47.16hastemake it look like the oSkin'd default bags!
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13:51.01CIA-1703wobin * r15923 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow - Actually fixed the plow direction this time
13:52.21Mikmanevcairiel: should we make a check for Bartender2 in Bartender3 and have it disable BT2 if found?
13:52.26CIA-1703mikma 07Bartender3 * r15924 10Bartender3/ (6 files): Bartender3: drycode fixed
13:52.44Mikmanevcairiel: that would eliminate the userstupidity ;)
13:52.54haarmnever underestimate user stupidity
13:53.19Mikmahaarm: well in this case i'm afraid that the users will load BT2 and BT3 together
13:53.26Mikmawhich will propably result an assplode
13:53.33haarmprobably :P
13:54.36Mikmaand that's why i changed all "Bartender" texts into Bartender3 ;)
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13:54.42mjc_http://www.ethicalhacker.net/images/stories/features/skillz/hitchhacker/bg_1280x1024.png
13:54.58Mikmanow i can just check "IsAddonLoaded("Bartender") then DisableAddon("Bartender")"
13:55.22mjc_Mikma: better to disable bt3 if bt2 is loaded
13:55.43Mikmamjc_: no. BT3 is for Burning Crusade and BT2 is for WoW normal
13:55.51mjc_ah
13:57.17mjc_http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4812
13:59.44haarmMikma, you'd still have to issue a reloadui after that right ?
13:59.59nevcairielmikma let them be idiots, and dont care about it
14:02.56Tainoh man /dev/null's annual NetHack tournament is on, I missed the start!
14:05.31Mikmahaarm: propably.
14:06.57XuerianAKX: Huh? o.0
14:07.05AKXit broke :(
14:07.16AKXjust at ony loot, it broke
14:07.23XuerianGot a stack trace for me?
14:07.35AKXNope, I had to get the dragon bitch looted, no time for debuggage
14:07.40AKXIt complained about a missing function
14:08.07XuerianDid you update all of Xloot/Monitor/Master or just master?
14:08.16AKXMaster
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14:08.40Mikmanevcairiel: Bartender3 is "working now". i removed the StickyFrames.lua from .toc since people say it's not working
14:08.42AKXI think it whined about iterateTable
14:08.46XuerianMonitor and Master are just modules, and in that update I moved a similar function from both into Master
14:08.52Xuerianer
14:08.56Mikmanevcairiel: you might wan't to check out the code to see what's "new" .. Bartender -> Bartender3 etc
14:08.56Xuerianinto Xloot
14:09.03ElkanoWoW is strange... 3 people behind a router... one can play normal, one has lag spikes and one is disconnected after login :/
14:09.14XuerianYou had to update all three and relog =\
14:09.23AKXYou didn't say that. *frown*
14:09.25AKXOh well
14:09.37XuerianI'm sorry.
14:09.52AKXNo worries.
14:10.25Mikmaoh great
14:10.28Mikmanice work AKX
14:10.34[Wobin]Damnit AKX
14:10.42[Wobin]You're the reason the internet can't have nice things =(
14:10.48vhaarrhaha
14:10.57AKXIs "can't have nice things" a 4chan meme...
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14:11.15vhaarrSaxamophone! Saxamophone! Trambampoline!
14:13.06XuerianYeah :P. Afk for a few hours. Update all three, restart wow and be happy. No more stabbity-stabbity and we're all habbity :P
14:13.13AKXYes. :)
14:13.21AKXIn MC, Domo fight now, though
14:13.35XuerianAhh.
14:13.37XuerianGood luck :P
14:13.40AKXThanks.
14:13.40CIA-1703cwdg * r15925 10ChatLog/ (ChatLog.toc Locale-zhTW.lua): ChatLog: Add zhTW local for chatlog by wolftankk.
14:13.43KirkburnI'm seeing a new library that's not part of the lib system? Quixote?
14:13.56[Wobin]does it tilt at windmills?
14:14.06Kirkburnheh
14:14.20KirkburnIt's not in StandaloneLibraries yet, at least
14:14.23Elkanowho's responsible for Quixote?
14:14.36KirkburnKemayo i think
14:14.53[Wobin]what does it do?
14:14.58KirkburnIt's in FuBar QuestsFu
14:15.13Kirkburn"FuBar_QuestsFu: Update to use Quixote (new library for quest handling)."
14:15.25[Wobin]qay
14:15.45KirkburnI mention it cause I'm trying to get it as a standalone, so wowaceupdater keeps track of it :)
14:16.15KirkburnAh, nvm, found it on /files
14:16.51[Wobin]nini
14:17.01[Wobin]Someday my key will come
14:18.28haarmwill it kiss you and wake you up too Wobin ?
14:19.03Mikmaheh now i have 1 bag full of runecloths
14:19.06Mikmai hope that will do
14:19.26haarmyea, you need minimum 100, better to get closer to 150
14:20.02Mikmawell 1x18 slotter will propably do
14:20.16haarmyou get 18 slotters as pvp rewards now
14:20.45Mikmawhaaat?
14:20.50haarmyep :)
14:20.55haarmit's true
14:20.56Mikmathat's like, sweet
14:21.19Mikmai'm missing 1x 18 slotter to have all bags with me as 18slots :P
14:21.37haarmi think there's 20 slotters in game :D
14:21.46haarmPrimal Mooncloth bags
14:21.49haarmor something
14:22.10Mikmaholy mother :D
14:22.25arkanesThere's 18s that look relatively easily craftable
14:28.31hastehmm
14:28.37hasteDeath coil hits you for 1100
14:29.06phyber*sigh*
14:29.16phyberhaste: post the screenshot, get everyone shouting nerf :p
14:29.16Taintain - killed by a falling rock
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14:30.19Angeriswarlocks are whining cause they cant fear hunters
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14:30.39phyberheh, neat.  what do hunters have that stops fear?
14:30.52haarmaimed shot :D
14:31.12Angerisa new talent/spell taht makes them immune to fear
14:31.19Angerisits in tbc
14:31.27haarmaimed shot + could of auto shots stops most people casting fear ;)
14:31.31haarm*couple of
14:31.34phyberpeople seem to forget it's a rock/paper/scissors type thing.  and they need to fuck off.
14:35.02haarmhunters seem to forget the only reason they get groups is because Tranq Shot has a class restriction ;x
14:35.09phyberhehe
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14:46.40ToadkillerTekkub: Do you know what needs to be done to get rid of the lowercase Autobar in files?
14:47.13Toadkillerhunters also needed for FD pull
14:47.31nevcairielToadkiller: ask cladhaire
14:47.42Toadkillerkool tx
14:49.27LaricKemayo are you here?
14:49.59Laric~seen Kemayo
14:50.16purlkemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'Most do, I think.'.
14:50.16MikmaLaric: test before you commit something in trunk ;)
14:50.36Mikmai had to take the addon you added off from .toc since it was giving out an error
14:50.55LaricMikma I noticed
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14:52.32ToadkillerI was reading the thread on RDX and thinking about adding autobar support for having specific item sets / layouts per boss.  I know events get sent to all mods.  SHould there be a general ace mechanism so lots of mods can support per boss features?
14:53.40vhaarrhm
14:53.48vhaarrI guess we could code something in to BW.
14:53.52vhaarrWe've been thinking about it.
14:53.59Toadkiller*Ace events.  perhaps some standard event?
14:54.25Toadkilleryeah i was looking at bw and it seems like the logical mod to send out the messages
14:54.29vhaarrThere are no events at the moment.
14:54.37vhaarrBW sends a sync at some bosses.
14:54.43vhaarr"BossEngaged <bossname>"
14:54.47vhaarrBut not nearly all of them.
14:55.21vhaarrThe problem is that once that is sent, the boss is actually engaged and you are in combat.
14:55.28vhaarrI'd think you want something that is fired before that.
14:55.44ToadkillerBW does "engage" a module ahead of time tho
14:55.45vhaarrSo you'd want "EnableModule <boss module>", which is triggered when someone targets a boss or mouses over it.
14:55.54vhaarrIt doesn't engage, it enables.
14:55.55Toadkilleryeah
14:56.08vhaarrProblem is, that can fire any time.
14:56.20Toadkilleryes it can get ahead of itself
14:56.43vhaarrSo at the moment, it's not possible.
14:56.45Toadkillermaybe something like threatmeters aproach?
14:57.00vhaarrFor AutoBar, sure, for BW, there is already.
14:57.20vhaarrWe're going to be adding bossmod enabling by subzones some time.
14:57.33vhaarrSince it's required for Kel'Thuzad, and probably others later on.
14:57.44[Ammo]morning
14:57.50vhaarrmorning ammo
14:57.51ToadkillerI am just trying to avoid copying & pasting code for this.
14:57.52Mikma[Ammo]: hi
14:57.58vhaarrwait .. "morning"? :P
14:58.03[Ammo]hehe
14:58.08[Ammo]well I just had a nap
14:58.09vhaarrI just had dinner :P
14:58.10vhaarrhehe
14:58.18[Ammo]drank some whiskey with my brother last night
14:58.22[Ammo]and woke up way too early
14:58.26vhaarrah
14:58.30vhaarrsounds fun
14:58.50[Ammo]yarr
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14:59.01pb_ee1Heya ;)
14:59.05ToadkillerLol apparently there is an issue with AutoBar having a button for hearth stone & BA off of vail and sometimes people, even the tank hits hearth & it happens kinda fast, like instantly...
14:59.17maiaguys, please vote for Grid and add it to your favourites:  http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5747  and  http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5772 (the TBC version)
14:59.35Amadeohuh? instant hearthing?
14:59.40AmadeoI need to use your addon
14:59.41Amadeo:P
14:59.49maia(I'm done with my spam)
14:59.50vhaarrOn vael ..
15:00.07Toadkillerlol yeah, someone sent mne a link to a euro forum where some tank was complaining about it
15:00.15Mikmamaia: gief me money!
15:00.15Laricblast the entire inn in if? :P
15:00.21Amadeovhaarr: Now I just need an addon to simulate Vael anywhere in the world
15:00.33Laricgrid down now maia? :P
15:00.38maiaMikma: ask RDX to give you money, since they are selling "Raid Grid"
15:00.39Toadkillernah i think blizz fixed that but I laughed pretty hard at the thought of it
15:01.07Mikmamaia: calm down, i use Grid. now give me cash!
15:01.23maialol
15:01.30vhaarrmaia: done :)
15:01.32[Ammo]need inspiration
15:01.38AmadeoGrid is really cool, but how do you know who is who?
15:01.44vhaarrmaia: BTW, have you thougth about Detox for TBC?
15:02.22maiaAmadeo: turn on the names?
15:02.25pb_ee1Question: If I do a ResetDB('profile'), it resets all the profile of the user?
15:02.40maiavhaarr: err, I think Detox is dead. whatever can be transferred to Grid will be transferred.
15:02.49pb_ee1All the profileS of the user, I meant, of the current AddOn obviously
15:02.50vhaarrmaia: Alright, I might touch it up for TBC, then.
15:02.53vhaarrmaia: After release.
15:03.01hasteDoes anyone have some patch notes for the latest TBC?
15:03.01vhaarrmaia: Just as a debuff list.
15:03.03vhaarrNothing more.
15:03.09maiaokay
15:03.11vhaarrhaste: There are none.
15:03.12hasteor some blue post regarding it
15:03.23vhaarrThey fixed one thing I suggested, though :)
15:03.48vhaarrThere are some ogres in Zangarmarsh that you are supposed to steal some mushrooms from, and when you open the mushroom crates, a ogre spawns.
15:04.04maiaRDX authors seem to not see any problem with copying concepts, as long as they arent copying code. E.g. someone just wrote in their forums: "Example, I just did a complete copy of how perfectPaid looks, with RDX. All it took was a bit of scripting, and some fiddling around with the placement."
15:04.10vhaarrInitially he didn't say anything when he spawned, and I thought it was boring, so I suggested they should say "You no take mushroom!".
15:04.13vhaarrAnd they implemented it :D
15:04.43Amadeomaia: Can you see full names in it? I didn't know it was an option
15:04.50Mikmamaia: what's the difference between Grid and Grid TBC? :)
15:04.51AmadeoI just look at the screenies :)
15:04.53maiaAmadeo: you can see up to, uum, 4 letters.
15:05.06maiaMikma: only the TBC Ace embedded libs.
15:05.10AmadeoI see
15:05.24maiaMikma: actually you can also use the 1.12 version and just replace AceHook
15:05.36Mikmamaia: mmkay :)
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15:07.35AmadeoHow come Grid is posted by pastamancer?
15:07.59Amadeooh, it's a joint project
15:08.27maiayup
15:08.48AmadeoI'll probably be using it in TBC
15:08.51hastedoing a MC cash run right now
15:08.52AmadeoWhen I make my Priest
15:09.01hasteand some random warrior took follow on our puller
15:09.09hastewe sacrificed him to the Gods in MC
15:09.15phyberhaste: selling BoPs or just gold from the bosses?
15:09.27hasteselling
15:09.34Amadeohah
15:09.36phybercool.
15:09.39Amadeohow much do you charge?
15:09.41Mikmamaia: now, sell it for 25$
15:10.00hasteAmadeo: 40G minbid
15:10.03hastemin raise is 10
15:10.33Toadkillerso like your raid takes random people along & they can pay gold for bops?
15:10.43hasteyes
15:10.47ToadkillerI like it!
15:10.59hastewe bring 20 people from our guild, and we boost 20 randoms through MC in three hours
15:11.43phyberpaying for your naxx repairs I guess.
15:12.28hasteevery fourth run goes to the GBank
15:12.31phyberI wonder if Blizzard intended this to happen or if they'll try to nerf this so that Warriors must enjoy grinding 20-30g per night for repairs.
15:12.40KirkburnQuick note: Vote vote vote!! http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Proposed_icon
15:12.45pb_ee1http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=750216&sid=2 >> Patch notes for TBC
15:12.45hastepaying for titans and such
15:13.08pb_ee1haste
15:13.12hastepb_ee1: thank you
15:13.17pb_ee1np ;)
15:13.21Kirkburnpb_ee1, those are old?
15:13.25phyberI dislike each icon more than the icon that preceeded it.
15:13.36AmadeoSo what's this Cloak of Shadows thing that everyone is going nuts over?
15:14.08pb_ee1Kirkburn: Aha true, it's from the release 6022
15:14.12Kirkburn=)
15:14.20Toadkillerwhy do worriers whine about measly 30g repair bills when I can blow through 45gp worth of major mana pots (thats 15 pots) + 10gp repair???
15:14.33gngsk|Amadeo, http://www.thottbot.com/beta?sp=31224
15:14.47pb_ee1http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/alpha-beta-en.html >> The only link I have for patch notes
15:15.12Amadeowow, wasn't that a 41 point talent?
15:15.22Gngskyea, it is
15:15.32AmadeoI heard it's trainable now instead?
15:15.42Gngsko_O
15:16.01Gngskwouldn't know, I'm not in the beta test
15:16.09haarmlol in the beta, glowcap is bugged :D .. it's interact range is the same as it's visibile distance :D
15:16.16Amadeothat's the biggest jump I've ever seen
15:16.19Amadeofrom 41 point talent to free skill
15:16.41MikmaKirkburn: how come there has been people voting twice on different pictures? :)
15:16.53KirkburnTwo votes each :)
15:17.07KirkburnIt says at the top of the vote :P
15:17.22Sarozpastamancer, are you planning on turning some of the logic in Grid in to libs? Like a banzai is for aggro, a lib for healing (squishy type) etc. etc.
15:17.24Mikmaohkay
15:17.27Mikmathen i must add another
15:17.43Kirkburn=)
15:20.01Mikmathere we go
15:20.08Mikmai'm kinda surprised that no-one likes the stamp
15:20.51KirkburnWikignome! :D
15:21.51arkanespvp specced rogues are going to be cloth killers again with that
15:22.03arkanesseems like blizz decided thats what we do
15:22.20Toadkillerrogues = scissors
15:22.29Mikmacloth == paper
15:22.34Amadeowith CoS? They'll be invincible for a while again
15:22.38AmadeoEspecially the BEs
15:22.47arkaneseh, the BE thing is overrated
15:23.06ToadkillerI cant wait to be a healing tree
15:23.08arkanesnow, if you could charge it up without breaking stealth, then you'd have something
15:23.15haarmcloak of shadows needs a longer cooldown
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15:23.25arkanesbut yeah, they added a whole bunch of anti-caster stuff to rogues
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15:23.40arkanesif it's trainable it should probably be 5 like the rest of our stuff
15:23.50Kirkburnrock = rock? Casters can blow it up, but a rogue will just hurt his hands :)
15:23.50arkanesthe 2 minute was fair for the talent
15:23.54haarmand imo, shadowstep shouldn't be instant, it should be like charge
15:24.09AmadeoEveryone has an idea of how the game is balanced, but there's the real answer: It's not
15:24.14haarmso they lose control for a second or two
15:25.34ToadkillerIT is balanced via in game statistics.  It is much more complicated than Starcraft though so it can not be said to be balanced the way SC is
15:25.39AmadeoIf it's balanced for groups, then there would be 9 person groups...otherwise there will always be a better class to fill a role
15:26.19arkanes"balance" is not a simple thing
15:26.36arkanesyou can't say "this is not balanced" except in the most exceptional cases, because theres always a context involved
15:26.51pb_ee1T_T
15:27.04pb_ee1I'm using AceDB-2.0 and since I only have problems
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15:27.24AmadeoWell, you can...because they say it's either rock paper scissors or groups...but the thing is, you have some classes that are better against all classes than others are
15:27.29Mikmanevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bartender3 lol
15:27.40pb_ee1I'm registering defaults for 'char' and 'profile', then when I want to do ResetDB('char') it pops me an error: cannot access to 'char'
15:27.42AmadeoSo for example, 2v2 BGs, two of one class that is better against all classes is just not balanced
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15:28.17AmadeoYou have Warriors who *must* have a healer to do anything
15:28.26AmadeoBut you have classes that need nothing to be successful in PvP
15:28.32AmadeoStuff like that
15:28.50Toadkillerby pvp do you mean BG or dueling?
15:28.55arkanesthats just not the case
15:28.56CIA-1703neriak 07Neriak * r15926 10gfxToggle/gfxToggle/ (3 files):
15:28.56CIA-17gfxToggle:
15:28.56CIA-17- fixed localization and changed some options
15:29.05arkanestwin paladin is a pretty hefty team
15:29.08AmadeoToadkiller: BGs
15:29.20Amadeoarkanes: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying
15:29.24arkanesbut other than that, there's not any standout "this rules" team
15:29.26Amadeobut why should they be?
15:29.32arkanespaladins are getting some of thier burst rolled back
15:29.38arkanesbeta balance effects and all, remember
15:29.43Amadeoarkanes: Two Rogues, Two Mages, Two Warlocks...they're all strong teams
15:29.53arkanesI suspect that the rogue buffs we just got will not last in this form
15:30.00AmadeoTwo Warriors would get stomped
15:30.09arkanestwo warriors is still a strong team
15:30.22AmadeoWarriors can be controlled too easily
15:30.28Amadeothere's plenty of CC left in the game
15:30.32Mikmahttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3423
15:30.32arkanesthey have a variety of things to help with that now
15:30.33ToadkillerWell I did Horde druid till rank 13.  WHen I started it seemed like pallies were stupidly favoured for WSG but after we put in a few painfull weeks to learn WSG they ceased being a problem.
15:30.48arkanesjust like rogues got
15:30.50Amadeoarkanes: What do they have?
15:30.59arkanesprior to this last buff 2 rogues was about as weak as you can get
15:31.06AmadeoI don't agree with that
15:31.22AmadeoWell played Rogues are extremely powerful
15:31.25Amadeoespecially with good gear
15:31.26arkanesuntrue
15:31.27Mikmaaye
15:31.35Toadkillerafter the 1.12 patch the tough thing was going up agaisnt T3 teams.
15:31.36Mikmathey are really freaking hard to beat with priest
15:31.37arkanesrogues have 1 trick mechanic that makes them good in duelling
15:31.39arkanesand thats stunlock
15:31.41AmadeoI had a PTR Rogue and I beat almost everyone
15:31.49Amadeoand I'm not talking about just PTR noobs
15:31.55arkanesstunlock is marginalized in TBC
15:32.05Amadeothey didn't marginalize anything enough
15:32.16AmadeoPolymorph for 10 seconds in Battlegrounds is still a TON of time
15:32.30arkanesdoubling stamina marginalized stunlock
15:32.45axxonot if you double dmg
15:32.46Toadkillerbah, you regen health while poly.  25 second fear or whatever it is is the stupid thing
15:32.47Amadeoright
15:32.49AmadeoYour damage went up too
15:32.58arkanesright now, without a gear advantage or a poorly played opponent, a rogue can stunlock warriors and priests, thats it
15:33.09arkanesit's not doubled, especially not burst
15:33.11Amadeountrue
15:33.16arkanesoh, and druids in caster form
15:33.23AmadeoI was killing Warlocks on PTR within a stunlock
15:33.31AmadeoSoul Link took a few seconds longer
15:33.47AmadeoMages were easy if you used a few cooldowns
15:33.52GngskAmadeo, your arguments mean nothing unless they're based on TBC
15:33.59arkanesbut you can't stunlock them
15:34.04Amadeoarkanes: You can
15:34.09Amadeojust a different method
15:34.10arkanesno you can't
15:34.16arkanesif he's running around, he's not stunlocked
15:34.18arkanesend of story
15:34.20Amadeowhat?
15:34.23AmadeoCS > Gouge, they can't move
15:34.40Amadeoyou do something, they blink, you vanish
15:34.43Amadeothen you CS again, they're dead
15:35.11arkanesbut they aren't
15:35.17AmadeoThey were for me :P
15:35.17arkanesunless you've got a gear advantage
15:35.25arkanesyou're talking about maybe 4k in damage
15:35.28Amadeoand if something screws up, you just Blind
15:35.41arkanesthe vast majority of rogue fights are won because opponents do not play well
15:35.48AmadeoWell my premade had gear, but so did the other classes
15:36.08arkanesthe 1.12 or whatever PTR is a really horrible environment for that sort of testing
15:36.32AmadeoI dunno, give me certain classes to play, even in TBC, and I could show how powerful they are :P
15:36.45arkaneswithout the TBC talents and skills, a mage with 21 points in frost has a counter to every rogue ability on a shorter cooldown
15:36.47[Liquidor]I feel the same
15:36.49Amadeomaybe I'll get to try that when they put TBC on test
15:36.50arkanesit's a totally unbalanced match
15:37.07arkanesa forst mage who lose to a rogue is either outgeared or did not play well
15:37.16[Liquidor]word
15:37.18[Liquidor]weææ
15:37.19[Liquidor]well*
15:37.21Amadeoarkanes: A really, really good Frost Mage is probably the strongest class in the game...but they're gonna use Ice Block twice to win
15:37.22[Liquidor]frost mage > all
15:37.25arkanesthe same for a lot of other class matchups
15:37.26[Liquidor]imo
15:37.28Amadeoyep
15:37.37arkaneswarlocks can be taken down by a 100-0 stunlock, or by well played undead
15:37.55omega_but a frost mage cant do jack shit to a lock with felhunter
15:37.59Amadeothey can
15:38.06arkanesAmadeo: it's somehow bad for a mage to iceblock twice, but okay for a rogue to burn vanish blind and prep?
15:38.07Amadeoit's just gear and skill with Ice Block
15:38.10arkanesoh, and sprint
15:38.13AmadeoWarlocks are NOT all-powerful like people think
15:38.16Amadeopeople just don't know how to fight them
15:38.18[Liquidor]I'm playing a frost mage atm and is green geared with 2x Magister's and level 57, I still manage to take down L60's
15:38.32arkanesa rogue cannot beat a good lock unless he 100-0 stunlocks him or he's undead
15:38.38[Liquidor]Even my weapons are green except for the mage wand
15:38.48arkanesand you can't 100-0 stunlock a SL lock without a gear advantage
15:39.04Amadeoarkanes: That's not completely true...if stuff goes wrong, most times I'll kill a Warlock first...then I die to DoTs :P
15:39.10[Liquidor]Even possible to stunlock a lock with socubus out?
15:39.16AmadeoYes
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15:39.24arkanesyes but you have to be *extremly* quick
15:39.24Toadkillerwell currently a feral druid is sol against a lock, but a healbot can kick its ass... so you need to consider spec as well not just class
15:39.27[Liquidor]Seduce spam?
15:39.31arkanesand burn renatakis and/or tea
15:39.42AmadeoWith my Warrior, as soon as a Succubus starts casting, I tab-Pummel, and I win :P
15:39.44arkanesyou kill the succ
15:39.51arkanesit's actually really easy with a detect invis potion
15:39.56arkanesso I guess theres another way
15:40.13[Liquidor]Succ. < Iceblock <3
15:40.15AmadeoToadkiller: I dunno about that either
15:40.17AmadeoDruids just need room
15:40.29AmadeoDruids can beat anyone, just takes forever...lots of running to heal
15:40.29Taineaten by a Grue!
15:40.34arkanesthe problem with the succ from a rogue perspective is that you lose your CP when you switch to the succ
15:40.48AmadeoTain: Grue's are overpowered
15:40.49Toadkillerhehe only so far u can run in a duel
15:41.02arkanesso the need is to get the lock to bring the succ out of invis before you commit too much to building CP and a stunlock
15:41.13Toadkilleryeah non duel you better have a buddy or your ass is grass
15:41.15[Liquidor]For some weird reason I find druids easier to kill than any other class, but probably because they underestimate me being L57 and greeny geared causing them to stay in catform till they realise they can't out-damage me
15:41.17Amadeoarkanes: You normally only need one Seduce break to win...every Rogue gets a trinket :)
15:41.27arkanesuh, no
15:41.36arkanesCS lock, he seduces, trinket, kill succ
15:41.50AmadeoWhat kind of gear do you have? Greens? :P
15:41.51arkanesnow you're 10 yards away from an undamage lock with your trinket on CD
15:41.59[Liquidor]Really kill Succ?
15:42.08AmadeoI don't bother with the succubus unless I sapped the Warlock
15:42.20arkanesonly a retarded lock will seduce on a sap
15:42.33ToadkillerLiquid: what class is your 57?
15:42.34arkanesif he seduces on a sap you've got him
15:42.37Amadeoyep
15:42.47[Liquidor]Toadkiller: mage
15:43.02AmadeoI find that the times Warlocks beat my Rogue...it was because of something like a Stun resist or no poison proc
15:43.06arkaneshe won't seduce until you actually start hurting him, and once that happens you've only got ~10 seconds of CC
15:43.07Toadkillerdo you have the trinkets?
15:43.11Amadeoother than that, they always lost
15:43.11[Liquidor]Been doing AV the last 3 days 18 hours a day :)
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15:43.19Amadeoarkanes: What race is your Rogue?
15:43.21arkanesthen they played poorly
15:43.23arkanesundead
15:43.27Amadeooh come on
15:43.29[Liquidor]Neutral -> Exalted over 3 days and 2 levels
15:43.29AmadeoYou can kill anyone then :P
15:43.37arkanesif I double fear break I can
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15:43.43arkanesif I don't do that then the lock will kill me
15:43.45AmadeoI'm guessing you don't have very good gear
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15:43.48arkaneshe often will kill me even if he dies :(
15:43.52[Liquidor]Toadkiller: which trinkets?
15:44.04phyberneed to make a BossLootTable thing for Cartographer using PeriodicTable.
15:44.04arkanesI have excellent gear
15:44.12arkanesbut I'm pve specced, and I don't find morons
15:44.22[Liquidor]I use Nifty Stopwatch and Stormpike insignia rank 4
15:44.25arkaneswarlocks why try  to melee with firestones aren't much trouble
15:44.26Toadkillertop & zhc
15:44.33Toadkiller*toep
15:44.34Amadeolol, never seen that
15:44.48arkaneswe've got a lock in our guild who swears that it's a viable raid DPS spec :P
15:44.50[Liquidor]seen what?
15:44.52phyberToEP and ZHC share a cooldown now, don't they?
15:44.53arkaneswe all kinda laugh at him
15:44.59AmadeoWarlocks meleeing with firestones
15:45.00hastephyber: yes
15:45.08cncfanaticswtf is a firestone ? -.-
15:45.09[Liquidor]Use ZHC and Hibernation (doesn't share CD)
15:45.17arkanesit's a held item that adds fire damage to melee
15:45.22arkanesalso some fire spellpower
15:45.28arkanesnobody uses them cause they're stupid :P
15:45.37cncfanaticsoffhand ?
15:45.40arkanesyeah
15:45.44sylvanaargood for farming
15:45.49cncfanaticsnot bad if u dont got an offhand I guess :p
15:45.53AmadeoThe king of PvP will always be burst damage, and the counter to that will always be...burst healing!
15:46.02arkanesindeed
15:46.06arkanesburst damage > all
15:46.06cncfanaticsI outdmg bursthealing Amadeo :p
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15:46.15cncfanaticscombust + MQG ftw
15:46.18Amadeohehe
15:46.20cncfanaticsshatter + MQG in bc
15:46.22arkanesraise your hand if you'vebeen 2 shot from 35 yards by a fire mage :P
15:46.29cncfanaticsraises hand
15:46.33cncfanaticsalso did it before :)
15:46.36Toadkillerraise paw
15:46.42AmadeoI've been 2 shot by a lot of classes
15:46.51arkanesI got stunlocked by a paladin once
15:46.52AmadeoI had a Druid hit me with Ravage for 2200, and that was like 5 months ago
15:46.53arkanesthat was depressing
15:46.56sylvanaarthe better offhand for pvp is the spellstone - those are way useful in pvp
15:46.59cncfanaticsblink ? -.-
15:47.02[Liquidor]My L57 mage has 2.5hp :>
15:47.11arkanesmy mains a rogue :P
15:47.21arkaneswe can't do jack against stuns, kinda ironic
15:47.22cncfanaticsmage ain't made to have hp
15:47.22Amadeobrb
15:47.30cncfanatics+dmg + crit !
15:47.44cncfanaticsand stay behind ur friendly warrior that has healers spamming him
15:47.44arkanesanyway, I have to shave & go out with the wife
15:47.45cncfanaticsthey draw enough attention usualy
15:47.49cncfanaticscya, have fun :)
15:47.52Toadkillerlol the new av is so nice for a small druid / rogue pack to roam  &ravage the weak & the lonely ;-p
15:47.55[Liquidor]cncfanatics: hah you should see that guy who made a movie on the mage forums (EU). he got like 5k hp and no mana
15:47.58arkanesoh, in BGs I don't actually try to kill anythign
15:48.06arkanesI cheapshot healers and people on the end of an assist train
15:48.09cncfanaticsbleh
15:48.15arkanesand I use my leet pve DPS on marshalls
15:48.16cncfanaticsi got 6.5k mana unbuffed & barely any hp :p
15:48.18cncfanaticsbut i'm raid spec
15:48.30arkanesI can't one on one hardly anything in a BG
15:48.36arkanesand I don't often bother
15:48.39[Liquidor]2 sec, ill find it :>
15:48.42[Liquidor]You gotta see it
15:48.46cncfanaticsambush + backstab + gouge + eviscerate low hp ppl ?
15:48.54sylvanaareff raiding - 2 toons to full tier 2 is enough
15:48.56arkanescombat daggers pve spec
15:49.01arkanesI've got no burst damage at all
15:49.04cncfanaticsoh
15:49.07sylvanaarwaste o time
15:49.13cncfanaticsfire pve spec :) burst is my speciality :)
15:49.15arkanesso I just use stuns on players and kill mobs
15:49.40arkanesI did one shot a drinking mage and then spring away before anyone could kill me once
15:49.44arkanesthat was hot
15:49.59arkanesdoesn't happen very often though :P
15:50.02[Liquidor]Aww my pc can't handle this :( both AV and browser
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15:50.53[Liquidor]http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=77278202&sid=1
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15:51.00CIA-17FuBar_MicroMenuFu:
15:51.00CIA-17- added X-Category to TOC
15:51.02[Liquidor]There's a Live Streaming as well
15:51.16[Liquidor]He's just redicilous that mage :>
15:51.33[Liquidor]It's a PvP movie and he keeps saying "Please stop judging my movie by the gear i wear. Judge the movie on what the movie is, not on the gear i wear."
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15:56.11haarmdoes tht mean its worth watching or not ?
15:56.19hastehaha, mt on VT: don't overaggro, I'm on the phone!
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15:57.42[Liquidor]Dunno if it's worth watching. I couldn't watch it all, had to stop it already at 2:00
15:58.12Zyphrwish i had a beta account all these newb warriors got em =(
15:59.15`-FISKER_Qanyone got that itemlevel addon for TBC?
15:59.42haarmwell at least he chose pendulum for the music, it's a good start
16:00.31nevcairielitemlevel are reported by the UI in tbc
16:00.36Mikmamostly harmless
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16:02.54haarmnah, nowhere near impressive [Liquidor]
16:03.08[Liquidor]I know
16:03.12[Liquidor]That's the reason I posted it
16:03.54CIA-1703neriak * r15931 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/FuBar_NameToggleFu.toc:
16:03.54CIA-17FuBar_NameToggleFu:
16:03.55CIA-17- added ## X-Category: Interface Enhancements to TOC
16:05.45CIA-1703neriak * r15932 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/FuBar_MicroMenuFu.toc:
16:05.45CIA-17FuBar_MicroMenuFu:
16:05.45CIA-17- fixed typo in ## X-Category: Interface Enhancements, now listed correctly in FuBar
16:06.32CIA-1703damjau * r15933 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-koKR.lua: FuBar_BagFu - update koKR
16:07.54Amadeois that a good video, [Liquidor]?
16:08.17[Liquidor]No it's lame but that's why I posted it here
16:08.27[Liquidor]A mage playing with +stamina gear and thinks he's good etc
16:08.30Amadeooh
16:08.35[Liquidor]defending himself when ppl talks about his gear
16:09.06Amadeohehe
16:09.21AmadeohyperChimpmunk has 7000 HP
16:09.26Amadeoon his Hunter!
16:09.42[Liquidor]Well he's a hunter
16:09.47[Liquidor]a mage should not go for that much hp
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16:10.39arkanes3 minute wonder mages only need enough mana for 2 pyros and a poly :P
16:11.15Amadeohe seems halfway decent, he's not great though
16:11.39Amadeohis damage sucks
16:11.42Amadeofor his gear
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16:23.31`-FISKER_Qanyone know what email is used for on the forums?
16:23.34mjc_nice, getting 1030KB/s from kernel.org on my mac pro :)
16:23.54Urulokehmm... with AceComm-2.0 you only need to do a :RegisterComm(prefix, dist) to be able to use :SendCommMessage(dist, msg). Correct?
16:25.06Sarozpastamancer, poke
16:25.38UrulokeReason I ask is because if I do that I get an error from AceComm when I try to send message: AceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua:208: bad argument #1 to `gsub' (string expected, got nil)
16:25.42uszUruloke, you also need SetCommPrefix
16:26.07uszas as you can see SendCommMessage doesnt accept prefix parameter
16:26.18Urulokeusz: Hmm, when I do that it says "Cannot call 'SetCommPrefix' more than once" even though I only call it once
16:26.21uszso before using it, you have to set prefix with SetCommPrefix(prefix) function
16:26.53uszhmmm
16:27.00Kirkburnpriblet58
16:27.01uszits true that you set it once and only once
16:27.06KirkburnAch
16:27.16Kirkburnnvm me :)
16:27.59UrulokeI got this in OnEnable:      self:RegisterComm(self.commPrefix, "GROUP")
16:27.59Uruloke<PROTECTED>
16:28.26uszalmost good, but move SetCommPrefix to OnInitialize ^^
16:28.45uszas OnEnable can be called multiple times if your addon is switched to standby mode and back
16:29.01Urulokehmm, still get: AceComm-2.0: Cannot call `SetCommPrefix' more than once.
16:29.24uszjust check if you didnt leave some old code somewhere
16:30.26Urulokenope, no old code like so
16:30.34phyberUruloke: because you already set the prefix in RegisterComm?
16:30.48CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15940 10Interview/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Interview: Flattened the dewdrop menu and removed some debugging
16:31.26Urulokephyber: Well, if I don't do SetCommPrefix I get an error from SendCommMessage about the prefix
16:31.28uszphyber, that might be, i always used to SetCommPrefix before using RegisterComm so didnt think of it
16:32.02sylvanaarUruloke: what are you doing ?
16:32.27Uruloketrying to set up communication over the GROUP distribution
16:32.40sylvanaarUruloke: you can look at the Interview code
16:33.17sylvanaarUruloke: but did you use the example from teh wiki?
16:33.26UrulokeI did yes
16:33.43sylvanaarif you did, then i bet i know whats wrong
16:33.49UrulokeOoh?
16:33.53uszUruloke, how are you sending message i mean how does the line looks like with call to SendCommMessage
16:34.18Urulokeself:SendCommMessage("GROUP", "DRAWLINE", unpack(args), self.optColor)
16:34.19sylvanaarlocal commPrefix = "Interview"
16:34.42sylvanaarwhere is yours stored?
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16:34.49Urulokeaddon.commPrefix
16:35.10sylvanaarlose the addon.
16:35.34uszwell line 208 of ace comm tries to encode args, so it seems like prefix is fine, but problem is with args
16:35.45sylvanaardo what i said
16:35.50UrulokeI tried with only the DRAWLINE arg
16:36.09sylvanaarchange it to remove the 'addon.' part
16:36.15Urulokesylvanaar: That did it! Thanks!
16:36.46sylvanaarwelcome
16:37.15uszow now i see, AceComm internaly uses addon.commPrefix ^^
16:37.30UrulokeRight
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16:39.00sylvanaaryeah, worst bug ever - took me a while to fix
16:39.40uszheh, i didnt put comm prefix in any var so avoided this problem, still strange that mixins use so simple vars for internal tasks
16:39.53uszbecause its very easy to accidently have name clash
16:40.07sylvanaarits not even an accident
16:40.15sylvanaarits the sample code in the wikki
16:40.34uszah yes
16:40.44usznow if i recall it, i might have had same problem
16:40.45usz^^
16:40.47Urulokeshould update the wiki
16:41.02sylvanaaryeah
16:41.06[Liquidor]Don't you just love to play battlegrounds with people not speaking prober English? Or even understanding it?
16:41.06uszwell the code is actually correct
16:41.17[Liquidor]him "please help me"
16:41.21[Liquidor]me "with what?"
16:41.27[Liquidor]him "a tree"
16:41.33[Liquidor]me "walk around it?"
16:41.35uszas it sets prefix just via addon.commPrefix = "Prefix", which is way to go around SetCommPrefix to actually set prefix ^^
16:41.37[Liquidor]him "anyone?"
16:41.48[Liquidor]me "What do you need help with?"
16:41.53Urulokeusz: But as we've just seen it doesn't set it correctly
16:41.57[Liquidor]him "help me zommon tree"
16:42.08[Liquidor]me "Is the ARch druid there?"
16:42.12[Liquidor]him "plz help?"
16:42.15sylvanaaryou have to call the method
16:42.17[Liquidor]and so on
16:42.22[Liquidor]gotta love it :>
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16:42.39UrulokeHehe
16:42.45[Liquidor]Now he stands down there clicking a dead baecon
16:42.50uszah yes, just looked at SetCommPrefix code and setting prefix requires few more actions to be fully performed
16:43.56sylvanaari was on here asking about it for hours when i started writing Interview
16:44.23uszheh, well i found 3 or 4 bugs while writting TooltipExchange
16:44.44uszi lost like 5h to find out GUILD comm wasnt registering CHAT_MSG_ADDON event...
16:44.58sylvanaarits not?
16:45.02JoshBork1lol
16:45.11JoshBork1yea, usz found the bugs just before i did
16:45.16pb_ee1Is there a way to duplicate a table without going through a for ... do ... end ?
16:45.24JoshBork1pb_ee1: no
16:45.34uszstill there is one more issue i have with AceComm
16:45.40Urulokewhat's that?
16:45.43pb_ee1I tried to do table1 = table2 but it only makes a pointer xD
16:45.50uszas it doesnt have standard behaviour for self sent messages
16:45.52pb_ee1JoshBork1: thanks
16:46.17UrulokeWhat do you mean?
16:46.20JoshBork1usz: it's supposed to ignore them
16:46.21uszself messages from CHAT_MSG_ADDON doesnt rise events, while from channels they do
16:46.21sylvanaarwhat are you using it for/
16:46.27uszJoshBork1, i know
16:46.37uszbut i would like it to ignore all or none ^^
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16:46.53uszor even i would like to have option to set if i want to get own messages or not
16:47.06uszas in code its only: if sender == player then return end...
16:47.11JoshBork1i think it should be an option
16:47.26sylvanaarI use ace events to send data
16:47.41uszsylvanaar, between clients?
16:47.51sylvanaarboth
16:48.31sylvanaarlocal and remote
16:48.57uszhmmm, without AceComm?
16:49.07sylvanaarwith acecomm
16:50.02sylvanaarIntervew will let you register for ace events on remote machines
16:50.03uszwell i trigger comm module and receive data from it via events aswell
16:50.19uszow that way
16:51.31sylvanaarI use an event to trigger myself to send an addon message
16:52.57CIA-1703pb_ee1 * r15941 10ChatLog/ (. ChatLog.lua ChatLog.toc):
16:52.57CIA-17ChatLog: Removed AceDB-2.0 & bug fix.
16:52.57CIA-17- Removed using AceDB-2.0 because I couldn't do what I wanted with it.
16:52.57CIA-17- Fixed a bug where ChatLog would not properly reset after pressing the "Reset" button (thanks to sKOO-somthin').
16:52.57CIA-17- Changed the name of the SavedVariables.
16:52.58CIA-17- Your saved logs will be deleted after this update (not in the files though).
16:53.28sylvanaarusz: what did you mean?
16:54.54sbupb_ee1: uhm chatlog... that button next to my chatbox disappeared ~1 week ago and didnt come back - is there a way to open the log/config-window?
16:55.12pb_ee1. /clog
16:55.18pb_ee1. /clog toggle* even
16:55.19sylvanaarusz: did you want an event to fire after you sent the data?
16:55.30`-FISKER_Qlol
16:55.41sbuahhhh
16:55.43sbuclog - nice
16:55.50sbubecause 'chatlog' tells me something about disabled function
16:56.02`-FISKER_Qlooks like Cloak of Shadow(+90% spell resistance) also applies on "No mans land"(a debuff designed to keep people out of unfinished areas)
16:56.02`-FISKER_Q:D
16:56.05pb_ee1. /clog resetbutton should reset the button position ;)
16:56.21kergoth`-FISKER_Q: hah
16:56.42nevcairielwhere do you get that cloak? :o
16:56.52`-FISKER_Qit's a new rogue spell
16:56.55`-FISKER_Qor abillity
16:56.56pb_ee1sbu: Yep, actually /chatlog is a Blizzard's UI function. I disabled it because you can enable it in ChatLog (and you should or it will not save this parameter between logins)
16:56.56`-FISKER_Q:P
16:56.57nevcairielah.
16:57.04nevcairielstupid rogues
16:57.05nevcairiel:D
16:57.18`-FISKER_Q:(
16:57.51pb_ee1sbu:  I couldn't make my own function with /chatlog as I could before. Dunno why, but Ace2 doesn't want me to do it ;p
16:57.52Mikmais Grid sticky in forums?
16:58.01sylvanaarhmm...i register for PARTY, RAID, and GUILD - that must be why i havent seen the bug for GUILD
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16:58.58hastehehe
16:59.13hasteone person says HOT? in the gchat, and three people reply with "DICKINGS!"
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16:59.38haste~dr. tran
16:59.40purl3, 2, 1... Dr Tran!
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17:02.20UrulokeGetNumRaidMembers() is the same for regular raids as for battlegrounds, right?
17:02.57uszsylvanaar, GUILD is fixed for a long time now
17:03.09sylvanaarusz: oh ok
17:03.21uszi use myself GUILD or CUSTOM
17:03.45sylvanaarusz: what does your mod do?
17:04.02Mi|esholy crap. BWL run with 10 buyers = win
17:04.12CIA-1703cwdg * r15942 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames-zhCN.lua ag_UnitFrames.toc): ag_UnitFrames: Update zhCN local.
17:04.15uszits item database, by item i mean full item with tooltip data
17:04.18JoshBork1lol
17:04.22JoshBork1how much you make?
17:04.29Mi|es9460, nef to go
17:04.35Mi|es~300 each
17:04.46uszit uses comm for searching items over all clients connected to given Comm
17:04.53nevcairielnice
17:04.57JoshBork1NICE!
17:05.19uszthen if you find some items that are invalid on your side, it transfers full item data and allows tooltip rebuilding on other side
17:05.36uszthis way i walk around problem with browsing invalid items
17:05.39hasteMi|es: doing a MC cash run now, but sucky drops all the way :(
17:06.29hasteusually get around ~5500g per MC run
17:06.37Mi|esyea, got that till chrom. but then rogues/hunters went crazy, 2k + 2k for 2 items
17:06.55hastea guild on our server sold Nef's head for 2500g
17:07.05hastewhich is pretty insane for a 100% drop :p
17:07.32sylvanaarusz: does it have a 'light' mode or is it always databas+comm+ui
17:08.24uszsylvanaar, well no, i cant imagine light version with such search capabilities
17:08.41sylvanaarusz: orcould you have a light client which could answer only
17:08.43Amadeoargh, what's the point of cold medicine if they don't even work? :P
17:08.55uszanyway UI is created on first opening
17:09.11uszas its CreateFrame based ^^
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17:09.37sylvanaarusz: ah, was trying to see if it would make sense as an Interview module
17:09.43CIA-1703mcc * r15943 10RangeRecolor/ (Locale.zhtw.lua RangeRecolor.toc): RangeRecolor: added Chinese Traditional translation
17:09.51Mikmatranslation
17:09.54uszsylvanaar, so you ask for client with no local DB, yes?
17:09.54Mikmafor addon like that?
17:11.06hastetekcub: your duratek add on doesn't have a SV defined in the TOC.
17:11.09sylvanaarusz: no ui is really what i was after
17:12.01hasteCan someone commit and fix that :D ?
17:12.08hasteI'm not able to do a checkout atm
17:12.14Mikmahaste: what
17:12.26hasteMikma: add: ## SavedVariables: DuraTek
17:12.29hasteMikma: to DuraTek :p
17:12.53Mikmais it branch or trunk
17:12.57uszsylvanaar, well the way how i separated modules atm is something like: core (with UI driven by events), scanner module (triggers item seen events), comm module (fully event driven comm), item storage lib
17:13.16AmadeoAnyone in the Vanguard beta?
17:14.24sylvanaarusz: im trying to combine all the client side syncing into a modular framework - i made a post on the forums, for several reasons i think its a good idea - not many people seem to agree
17:14.30uszsylvanaar, still this is heavy memory mod, because as every client receives every search, its optimized for fast searching, not minimal possible memory usage
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17:16.08CIA-1703mikma * r15944 10FuBar_DuraTek/FuBar_DuraTek.toc: FuBar_DuraTek: Added missing SV. Bad Tekkub!
17:16.13uszsylvanaar, make general framework for shared data storage over comm ^^ thing that JoshBorke and me could use :)
17:17.00sylvanaarusz: its just data sharing right now
17:17.37uszwell what i mean is that all clients share same core data and modify it etc and its being synched over channel and resolves data change conficts
17:18.49uszanyway i will implement some mechanics for it, as i made something i called Memo lists (user defined item lists) and want to introduce Shared Memo lists, that are visible to everyone via comm and are being able to be modified by all
17:19.18CIA-1703neriak 07Neriak * r15945 10gfxToggle/gfxToggle/ (3 files):
17:19.18CIA-17gfxToggle:
17:19.18CIA-17- fixed menu for FuBarPlugin, it's gettin' shiny.
17:19.26sylvanaarusz: has the same adoption problems tho that i wrote Intervew to help solve
17:20.32hastehaha, someone just raised with 500 :p
17:20.38neriakzomg, how i love the fubarplugin :)
17:20.44hastewarrior with Core hound tooth :p
17:20.50uszOo
17:22.52hastewhy would a warrior buy Core Hound Tooth?
17:23.10uszcuz he aint got better DPS weapon and got loads of ebayed gold?
17:23.20TainWhen you first start in MC it's still one of the better weapons a warrior is going to find.
17:23.25TainIT doesn't stay that way for long.
17:23.34TainBut some people do it anyway.
17:23.47hastethey pay gold tho', ebayers all of them
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17:24.39TainYeah well that's how a lot of guilds gain money, letting non-guild people loot stuff that would otherwise go bye bye.
17:24.49MikmaMAHADEVA!
17:25.38hasteTain: Yes, that's what we do to sponsor our Naxx raids
17:26.07hastebut I don't see why a warrior would buy core hound tooth, when he can to AQ20 and get a better alternative :)
17:26.40hastewell, I shouldn't complain it's more gold in my pocket
17:27.38phyberhaste: how much gold do you come out with on average?
17:28.01haste~250g per main
17:28.22phyberwow, nice.
17:28.54hasteevery fourth raid goes to the guild bank however
17:31.08haste215g per main so far this run, but we haven't sold BoE's and killed rag yet
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17:32.45nevcairielwe didnt get enough buyers last week, sucked :(
17:33.15CIA-1703neriak 07Neriak * r15946 10gfxToggle/gfxToggle/ (gfxToggle-Locale-enUS.lua gfxToggle.lua):
17:33.15CIA-17gfxToggle (branch):
17:33.15CIA-17- fixed english localization
17:43.49kergothdamn, grid is sexy
17:44.00CIA-1703cwdg * r15947 10Prat/ (22 files in 2 dirs): Prat: -Add Chinese local.
17:45.05CIA-1703damjau * r15948 10AoFHeal/ (AoFHeal.lua AoFHeal.toc AoFHeal_locale.lua Bindings.xml):
17:45.05CIA-17AoFHeal:
17:45.05CIA-17- add koKR, notes-koKR
17:45.10kergothhm, grid does take like 150K more ram than perfectraid
17:45.51KalamadiI'm sure it's still being optimised
17:46.11sylvanaarim making a plugin for grid to interface with interview
17:47.48CIA-1703damjau * r15949 10oTweaks/ (libs/ moredots.lua oTweaks.toc): oTweaks - add koKR, notes-koKR
17:49.11KalamadiWhat does Interview do? >_>
17:49.52sylvanaardata publish/subscribe modular framework
17:51.34sylvanaari just wrote a module that lets you trade macros with people - it has no real ui, its meant to provide data for other addons
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17:53.05KalamadiAh.
17:53.10sylvanaarKalamadi: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2896.0
17:53.24KalamadiSo, essentially, it's a very efficient data communication framework?
17:53.50sylvanaarKalamadi: its acecomm+aceevents
17:54.23KalamadiUsing the comms to trigger events, then
17:55.10sylvanaarKalamadi: it can work in either direction
17:55.37KalamadiNeat.
17:57.31sylvanaarKalamadi: same thing ora2 does, or bigwigs, but no ui to tie it to
17:57.45hastephyber: 350g per main this run, 7000 total
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17:59.04Funkeh`hey all :)
17:59.06hastehttp://www.msfirefox.com/
17:59.16Meiun_:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
18:01.20CIA-1703damjau * r15950 10AoFHeal/AoFHeal_locale.lua:
18:01.20CIA-17AoFHeal:
18:01.20CIA-17- sorry miss typo..
18:02.10KirkburnLol, the link downloads IE7
18:02.44KirkburnThis makes me very confused as to the aim of the site
18:03.47hastehaha
18:06.31yacoobUhhh.
18:06.48yacoobJust spent 1h in ST, seeing as various group members say 'oh, I need to go'.
18:07.04yacoobDon't people actually *think* when responding to grouping requests? :/
18:08.01yacoob<flames with hate>
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18:09.19hasteso what should I call my lockpicking add on?
18:09.44Meiun_PickMe!
18:09.52hastegood enough :3
18:10.06Meiun_i dont know, i suck at names :f
18:10.22hasteI suck more at names
18:10.30hasteI usually name stuff: oWhatItDoes
18:10.36sylvanaarhow about just 'pick'
18:10.36Meiun_just name it oUnlock then ;P
18:11.09phyberLocksmith
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18:11.51phyberoIMadeAnUnlockAddonAndAllIGotWasThisCrappyName
18:12.41hastelo
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18:12.50Meiun_oO
18:13.01hasteoSlimJim !
18:13.16hasteA Slim Jim (more technically known as a lockout tool) is a thin strip of metal (usually spring steel) roughly 60cm long and about 2-4 cm wide originally marketed under that name by HPC Inc., a manufacturer and supplier of specialty locksmithing tools. Slim Jims are used to unlock automobile doors without use of a key or lock pick.
18:14.09sylvanaar'pick'
18:14.28sylvanaaroPick if you must put o
18:14.43hasteI just like tagging my add ons, nothing more :p
18:15.00hastebut I've had this one in my tinypad for quite some time now, and I extended it to trade also
18:15.07hasteso why not release it also
18:15.35sylvanaarwell then how about 'oPen'
18:16.01hastehey, that one was clever!
18:17.43hasteso now I'm stuck with: oPen or oKey
18:18.09phyberoPen
18:18.32Funkeh`whats the different between FuBar_TradeCDFu FuBar_tcgTradeskills
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18:18.53hasteoPen it is!
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18:25.17Gamefaq|afkvhaarr: Ping
18:25.26vhaarrGamefaq|afk: pong
18:25.54Gamefaq|afkyou fixed the error i reported yesterday...
18:26.35pastamancerSaroz: ?
18:27.09vhaarrGamefaq|afk: excellent
18:27.29Saroznevermind pastamancer, posted in grid thread
18:27.31hasteI should make it check if you have enough skill also
18:27.45Sarozpastamancer, have you performance tested grid in a raid?
18:27.48Saroza real raid :p
18:27.53Funkeh`could someone be really nice and fix the externals for FuBar_tcgTradeskills ? its only including acedebug but it needs some other ones also
18:28.02Sarozall these status events and stuff seems expensive, but clever
18:28.24pastamancerI've been raiding with Grid for several weeks
18:28.58Sarozokay
18:29.19SarozI like how you handled the status thingie
18:29.22Sarozwith priority and stuff
18:29.50pastamancerthat seemed like the right way to do things
18:30.03Sarozyea, gonna ninja it :p
18:30.24pastamancer:)
18:30.48Angerisso,you ninja stuff everywhere,not only in the game...ok
18:30.55Sarozyea
18:30.57Sarozborn ninja
18:31.27pastamancergoing to use it for sRaidFrames I assume?
18:31.30Sarozye
18:31.47Angeristoo bad you dont have a beta key to test it :P
18:31.54Sarozdont need a key to test this part
18:32.07Angerisoh,ok
18:32.21Angerisyou still dont have a beta key tho :P
18:32.27Saroznope
18:32.37SarozHopeing to get one this week
18:32.47Angerisand you are in blackwing lair atm,some1 must be screaming for healing
18:32.55Sarozbroodlord trash :p
18:32.58SarozI'm on follow
18:33.02Angeriskek
18:33.06Angerisim quoting!
18:33.13SarozPUGs want epix, pugs have to do the work
18:33.27Angerisyou won a cloak last time
18:33.30Funkeh`anyone? ;p
18:33.33Sarozyea, was sweet
18:33.37Angerisif i remember correctly
18:33.40Sarozmage in plate
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18:52.02AmadeoThat Vanguard movie looks pretty cool and very disappointing at the same time
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18:53.53Amadeolook at the framerate on the lead developers computer
18:53.55Amadeohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTgLj5VmWPU
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18:56.25Industriallol
18:56.26Industrialowned
18:56.30Industrialnext game!
18:56.37Industrial(battlefield 2142?)
18:56.42Industrial(or w/e
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18:57.26Industrialthis one http://www.torrentz.com/torrent_1051017.html
18:57.27Industrial:P
18:57.44AmadeoVanguard has cool ideas though
18:57.48Amadeono instancing at all
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18:57.55Amadeodungeons are supposed to be big enough for everyone
18:58.06Industrialhm
18:58.20TainThe reason everyone went to instancing is because that doesn't work well.
18:58.32AmadeoTain: They went to instancing because they couldn't figure out how to do it without lag
18:58.37Amadeoit was always about performance
18:58.45AmadeoUnfortunately, you look at that video...it lags :P
18:58.55TainNo, it was about people fighting over the same limited real estate.
18:58.59pastamancerAmadeo: you apparently never spent a lot of time in lower guk
18:59.06AmadeoActually I did
18:59.09AmadeoI beta tested EverQuest
18:59.20pastamancercamp checks and trains sucked ass
18:59.21Amadeoearly EQ dungeons were tiny
18:59.29Amadeoimagine if you expanded the size of Lower Guk by 200x
18:59.44TainOf course EQ never thought people would actually sit in one spot and camp spawns.
18:59.48Amadeohaha
18:59.53AmadeoThey made us do that though
19:00.05TainWell yeah that's what it ended up being.
19:00.07pastamancerthey should have known it would happen to sebilis and velks
19:00.52TainIt depended on the server though.  Some places Velks was always empty because hardly anyone went there.
19:01.01Amadeobut that's the idea behind it...the dungeon being big enough that you don't fight over places
19:01.04TainSeb just got stupid, like lGuk and SolB.
19:01.28AmadeoEQ instances were all about lag, not about real estate...because there was a zone, but everyone could go in it
19:03.46TainI never had serious lag in EQ dungeons.  Only when you had 50-100 people in the same room.
19:04.12TainIt wasn't the lag, it was the fact that there were a limited number of spawns and static spawns that people wanted.
19:04.15pastamancerthat was from the rendering engine ><
19:04.33CIA-1703wmrojer * r15953 10TradeskillInfo/ (6 files): TradeskillInfo: Restored official version. All unathorized changes rolled back
19:04.56CIA-1703wmrojer * r15954 10TradeskillInfo/RecipeDataLib.lua: TradeskillInfo: Restored official version. All unathorized changes rolled back
19:05.02TainIt still amazed me how long it took them to think through things though.  New items or spells that were game breaking too often.
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19:05.21AmadeoTain: I remember zones crashing with 100 people in them in EQ
19:05.29TainPaladins had a silence spell for like 2 days until they realized they could render so many encounters trivial.
19:05.30AmadeoSo I dunno when you're speaking of :P
19:05.52TainComplete Heal Cleric breastplate for free
19:06.08TainHell even Jaundice Bone Bracer was a bad idea, although not game-breaking.
19:06.10pastamancersurely gfaymart or the ec tunnel would have more htan 100 people during prime-time
19:06.20CIA-1703wmrojer * r15955 10TradeskillInfoUI/ (5 files): TradeskillInfoUI: Restored official version. All unathorized changes rolled back
19:06.26AmadeoKael Drakkal crashed like 15 times when we had 120 people in it
19:07.51TainAs long as it's not static spawns of specific drops it's fine to have one big dungeon.
19:08.18TainBut as soon as you make anyone part of it something people want it causes conflict.
19:09.01TainAnd I am so far past fighting other people for spawns in a game.
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19:09.40KalamadiFFXI, anyone?
19:10.01TainNo, but I'm playing FF XII as we speak.
19:10.15Kalamadi...
19:10.48UrulokeIf you use ... as an function argument what variable will it be put in? I thought it was arg or args
19:11.03TainI like FFXI, I think it has a lot going for it.  But it's far too much work to develop a character for me.
19:11.10AmadeoTain: I hate fighting for content, it's the worst thing about MMOGs
19:11.23KalamadiFFXI has nothing going for it. It's all about camping spawns and standing around with your thumb up your ass
19:11.42AmadeoTain: Remember in EQ, how the major guilds would have schedules to kill raid boss-type encounters?  Some guilds didn't care and killed them all anyway
19:12.26TainAmadeo I started on Veeshan.  We had to try to fight FoH for every single encounter every time they reset.
19:12.38Amadeoheh
19:12.48AmadeoI'm still amazed that Foror works for Blizzard
19:12.55TainWhich basically meant we got what they left over.
19:12.56Amadeohe exploited and was banned a bunch of times
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19:13.04TainOf course he was.
19:13.35AmadeoI also heard that Brad led a raid once and drowned underwater
19:13.40Amadeohis GM flag was off so people looted him
19:14.22TainI don't think anyone looted him.  He supposedly forgot to turn on his invulnerability.  I didn't see it but it wwas all over when it happened.
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19:14.27Amadeohaha
19:14.47AmadeoI really never liked him, but I loved EQ at the time :)
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19:14.59AmadeoI liked Smedley until he went to SoE
19:15.34TainI actually think he kept EQ in check.  When Brad left (was pushed out, whatever) I think it went crazy.
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19:15.43mjchttp://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/e_to_the_pi_times_i.png
19:15.48AmadeoTain: I think that was just SoE's doing
19:15.54AmadeoI imagine the same for Vanguard
19:16.10AmadeoBrad said he'd never go with SOE when Microsoft was backing them
19:16.17Amadeonow SOE is the publisher and has taken over
19:16.37TainYeah the Penny Arcade comic about it was hilarious.
19:17.22AmadeoI think I saw that a while back
19:17.39AmadeoIGN apparently did an article about Vanguard and said:
19:17.43Amadeo"Very few other companies are more familiar with the market than Sony Online Entertainment having pushed out titles in the EverQuest series, PlanetSide, and Galaxies. They also quiety took control of the Sigil project, Vanguard: Saga of Heroes."
19:19.02AmadeoI hope it goes over well though
19:19.03AmadeoI like competition
19:19.32Amadeobut as much as I complain about WoW...seeing these other games coming out...it makes me realize how good WoW really is :P
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19:21.50nevcairielI *hate* people who use Bossmods which *do not* use the *** around the annoucnes ....
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19:25.10Azurewrathhehe, got my whole guild to switch to BigWigs :)
19:25.33sylvanaarget them to keep it updated
19:25.44Azurewrathi force them to ;)
19:25.47sylvanaarthen tell me how you did
19:26.07hasteI did the same
19:26.18Amadeohaste holds a random member hostage with a sharpened spork
19:26.20hastebut it was more like: Hey, you should try this addon: Bigwigs, really great
19:26.22hastevoila
19:26.44Azurewrathsame for me.. the only hard part is the updating
19:26.58sylvanaari have to constanly check - people are still using <9000 builds
19:27.49Azurewrath12xxx for me.. i've built 7z package for them that i update daily
19:28.18Azurewrathso when there are really important changes.. like changed timers or sth. i tell them to upgrade
19:28.53sylvanaari post links in our forum to the right versions and tell them -but they dont all do it
19:29.49Azurewrathsylvanaar: well, i guess every guild has some 'special candidates'.. i just use the Version Query Feature then and tell them inGame.. else the raid won't start or something ;)
19:30.40sylvanaaryeah, its like our MT and some raidleaders
19:31.03sylvanaarwith the oldest versions
19:31.40Azurewrathmhm.. helps to be an officer in that case i guess
19:32.18KalamadiIn my guild, you lose DKP if you don't have CTRA and KTM installed -_-
19:32.37Azurewrathoh btw. nevcairiel.. any chance to provide me with the patch link? Still at 99.4%.. started it over four times now, extracted the torrent again, used the original blizz thingie.. nothing works.
19:32.47sylvanaarKTM needs to DIAF
19:32.52hasteKalamadi: haha, glad I'm not in your guild :D
19:32.57CIA-1703otravi * r15956 10oPen/ (. libs/ moredots.lua oPen.toc):
19:32.57CIA-17oPen:
19:32.57CIA-17- Initial import.
19:32.57CIA-17- Small add on to open lockboxes with the click of the mouse, while trading or in the bags.
19:32.57CIA-17- Untested and drycoded.
19:33.04hastesomeone test that
19:33.23Azurewrathgimme a rogue ;p
19:33.28KalamadiI'm so angry. Other healers in the guild use CTRA emergency monitor to heal and I take the flak when tanks die
19:34.41KalamadiOh well. They're going to be up the creek without a paddle once the next patch comes
19:34.58GtyrteNice patch :D
19:35.22sylvanaarKalamadi: what do you use to heal?
19:35.27KalamadiGrid. Nothing else.
19:35.59GtyrteCan I ask what grid is? Or what it do.
19:36.17Kalamadihttp://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=Grid/
19:36.19KalamadiRaidframes.
19:36.32sylvanaarI use ct raid frames arranged in a grid with click-casting enabled
19:36.59KalamadiGrid's already working in TBC.
19:37.16kergothgrid is sexy
19:37.16SarozXuerian, WTB "multiline" option for linking loot, and option to show money when multiline
19:37.19kergothi need to try it in a raid
19:37.48sylvanaari like grid too
19:38.47Gtyrtehmm, anyone know differences bewteen sraidframes nad grid?
19:39.57KalamadiNever used sRF
19:40.18Sarozdiffirence will be minimal come TBC
19:40.25CIA-1703otravi * r15957 10oPen/ (moredots.lua oPen.toc): oPen: Some drycode errors fixed.
19:40.27Sarozright now, there is a decent amount of diffirences
19:41.05Kalamadi...
19:41.12KalamadiNo, they are and will always be VERY different
19:41.25Sarozo rly?
19:42.21KalamadisRF mimics CTRA. Grid is its own design.
19:42.47Sarozit mimics CTRA in looks though
19:42.54KalamadiGrid? No.
19:42.57SarozI like to think I know which direction I want to take my mod though
19:43.03Sarozno, sRF ofc
19:43.30kergothgrid is a completely different interface than ctra, i dont see how you can say they wont be different
19:43.51SarozI was referring to functionality
19:43.58axxocan't i use clique+grid?
19:44.07Sarozobviously the look will never be the same
19:44.07Kalamadiaxxo: Yeah.
19:44.19KalamadiFunctionality is very different. Grid is modular.
19:44.22axxoi must be stupid, where is that readme
19:44.33Sarozmodularity is irelevant to users
19:44.46AmadeoWho in here plays a Hunter?
19:44.48Amadeo60
19:44.50KalamadiYes. Because users apparently cannot create or delete modules.
19:44.54Sarozyes
19:45.01Sarozthey simply don't care
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19:45.22KalamadiI'm a user and I use oRA modules and BigWigs modules.
19:45.51SarozI'll bet you anything that 90% of all oRA and BigWigs users couldn't care less if it was modular
19:46.13KalamadiThis is like the whole "why don't people use linux?" argument.
19:46.23Saroznot really
19:46.29KalamadiYes, really.
19:46.32[Liquidor]Do NOT use Linux !
19:46.37Sarozit's just an argument to show modularity is for developers, not users
19:46.46Sarozusers want something that works, they want functionality
19:46.47KalamadiYour claim is that people should not and do not care what works beneath the hood
19:46.56Sarozindeed
19:46.57AmadeoEh? People don't use Linux because of the community, everyone knows that :P
19:46.58XuerianI'd like to inject here; users may not care if they're modular, but they damn well like the modules that the modularity brings ;)
19:47.13Sarozofc Xuerian
19:47.19Sarozbut they don't credit modularity
19:47.22[Liquidor]I'm  a model too
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19:47.30XuerianI didn't say they did.
19:47.30Sarozthey simply expect it to be there, they don't care how or why it got there
19:47.35SarozI know
19:47.46[Liquidor]I'm a very HAWT model infact.
19:48.05KalamadiThen why not explain in layman's terms why modularity is important for the user, hmm?
19:48.06[Liquidor]So if you happen to be female go modulary me !
19:48.33KalamadiThat's the whole argument behind my "linux" dive.
19:48.42[Liquidor]Do NOT use Linux.
19:48.58Kalamadi[Liquidor]: Be quiet.
19:49.00XuerianKalamadi: Without modularity, windows would not be able to install new programs. Have new drivers.
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19:49.13[Liquidor]Just spamming a little before rebooting.
19:49.19[Liquidor]Rebooting can be SO borring.
19:49.23KalamadiXuerian: I'm not talking literally, I'm talking figuratively
19:49.28[Liquidor]Even though it only takes 1 minute top
19:49.41Worfwhy do you reboot then? :)
19:49.45XuerianI guess  I missed the reason figurative modularity is important in any scope then, my bad :)
19:50.00[Liquidor]Alterac Valley has screwed up my RAM fo rnow.
19:50.06[Liquidor]3 days of AV*
19:50.26KalamadiUse a memory freeing application >_>
19:50.29KalamadiCachemanXP
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19:51.02KalamadiMy uptime on my windows box is measured in weeks
19:51.08Kalamadi(Linux, in months, regardless)
19:51.16Worfoh... well, i just recommend that you get some sleep 1-2 x per week... and you can turn off your box while doing that, too :D
19:51.17Sarozhrrm, lemme check my box
19:51.30Saroz$ uptime
19:51.31Saroz<PROTECTED>
19:51.42Sarozstupid power cut
19:52.03KalamadiMy laptop's been up ever since I stopped recompiling the kernel
19:52.17[Liquidor]Is that 169 days without a shutdown?
19:52.23KalamadiAnd my PC's been up since after I had to test if a wireless card worked
19:52.34XuerianAyep, [Liquidor].
19:52.47[Liquidor]Don't you ever get software that requires rebooting?
19:53.04AmadeoWindows systems are stable these days if you want them to be, it's the shoddy software installed that breaks things
19:53.15Gtyrtehmm, 40 man, grid takes less space than 20 man with sRF.
19:53.18[Liquidor]Or do you got like several programs on-hold 'till you finally reboot and then being capable of using em? :>
19:53.20Xuerian[Liquidor]: That's really not the case with linux...
19:53.28Worf[Liquidor]: sure... when you upgrade the kernel you gotta reboot... but that's mostly the only reason for reboots
19:53.51[Liquidor]Sorry, but "kernel" is a foreign word to me :-/
19:53.59KalamadiKernel = linux buzzword
19:54.00Xuerian"Core"
19:54.03kergothi reboot my linux boxes every few months if its a workstation to ensure its kernel is current.  servers, 1 year +
19:54.08kergothKalamadi: uh, that's a load of crap.
19:54.09[Liquidor]Could as well just say "linux" to some extend :)
19:54.10kergothwindows has a kernel
19:54.13KalamadiSsssh
19:54.35[Liquidor]Do NOT use Linux.
19:54.35KalamadiYeah, and I was being sarcastic. Christ -_-
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19:55.17Worfmeasured by that you would have to only reboot Windows every 3-4 years... because that is the frequency they upgrade the kernel, right? :)
19:55.18[Liquidor]Oh well gotta reboot. Got some ideas of an addon/lib to do when I get back in a min.
19:55.20kergothsorry, the amount of idiotic trolling in here is overwhelming
19:55.47Worfsorry :)
19:56.02haste[Liquidor]: why not?
19:56.10[Liquidor]You know kergoth, the only reason I say "Do NOT use Linux." is because I'm not wise enough to use it :-/
19:56.21nevcairielagUF needs a pvp-flag indicator :(
19:56.38Sarozit has one
19:56.46kergothright, since clearly that's so logical.  i'll start telling people not to become rocket scientists, because i might have difficulty being one
19:56.47nevcairielit has?
19:56.49Sarozyea
19:56.51nevcairielwhere?
19:56.52packetlssare there a branch/rag on the SVN where 2.0 compatible addon are stored?
19:56.52SarozPVP symbol
19:56.55Sarozdunno, it's there
19:57.02sylvanaarfrankly i dont enjoy linux, everything is a chore to do unless i write code to do it and I dont always want to
19:57.03[Liquidor]kergoth: don't make it into something it isn't :)
19:57.16SarozLinux owns for servers, not so much for desktops
19:57.34[Liquidor]Brb
19:57.35kergothright, i'll only make it what it is.  someone with no clue about something making blind assertions about it
19:57.52nevcairieli dont see any pvp icon on my agUF playerframe
19:58.17Sarozmaybe your style doesnt have it
19:58.20Xueriansnurre-: =O
19:58.27Xueriansnurre-: Bastard.
19:58.33nevcairielwhich style do you use?
19:58.41SarozABF
19:58.51nevcairielso do i
19:58.55nevcairielweird stuff.
19:59.03SarozMine has a faction flag when I'm PVP enabled
19:59.05Saroz*shrug*
19:59.31nevcairielalways had, or recently?
19:59.42Sarozfor like a month
20:00.04nevcairielweird
20:00.19Sarozdebug it :p
20:01.10nevcairielyeah, MC is perfect for debuging
20:01.23Sarozyup
20:01.47CIA-1703saroz * r15958 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Credits to Nevcairiel
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20:02.03nevcairielyay!
20:02.13Saroz:p
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20:03.01nevcairielare you using any branch ?
20:03.11Saroznope
20:03.11Saroztrunk
20:03.19nevcairielreally weird
20:03.26nevcairieli bet i missed that commit in my merge cycle
20:03.28Saroz
20:03.28SarozPVPIcon = { Point = "TOPRIGHT",
20:03.28SarozRelativePoint = "TOPRIGHT",
20:03.28Sarozx = 14,
20:03.28Sarozy= 2,
20:03.28Saroz},
20:03.32SarozABF.lua
20:03.53nevcairielmy ABF.lua has that
20:03.56nevcairielbut it doesnt show
20:04.08Sarozmaybe UNIT_FACTION isnt registered
20:06.51nevcairielthe changes in my branch dont touch anything there
20:06.53nevcairielso no idea
20:07.04Sarozdiff it :p
20:07.08nevcairieli just did
20:07.15nevcairielclean checkout against my branch
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20:08.23CIA-1703nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r15959 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files): agUF(branch): merged latest trunk changes
20:08.41Saroz:p
20:08.51nevcairielthat wasnt the problem
20:09.16nevcairieli somehow disabled the option, without knowing that it was there tho :D
20:09.39Sarozlol
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20:13.26snurre-damnit, this install is like wow :(
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20:16.06snurre-ooh, nwn has xml UI
20:18.09hasteonly XML?
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20:19.39snurre-can only see xml and ini files in D:\Games\Neverwinter Nights 2\UI\default
20:19.41XuerianIt had no UI before.
20:19.45XuerianWell...
20:19.47XuerianCustomizable.
20:19.55snurre-fonts, images and sfx folders in there too
20:20.05snurre-so can probably customize it alot yeah
20:20.10XuerianYes, the new ui is customizable, but more to the point, module makers can make their own UI elements that are displayed to the user
20:21.53packetlsss0lk0RW!
20:22.12SarozXuerian, did you see my WTB?
20:22.20XuerianMissed it.
20:23.24Sarozhang on
20:24.06Sarozanyway
20:24.11Sarozwas about multiline loot announce
20:24.20Sarozan option to show each item on it's own line
20:24.31Sarozor maybe only epix
20:24.44XuerianSimple enough
20:24.50Sarozand option to show money aswell
20:24.51Sarozyea
20:24.53XuerianGeez, i need a suggestion page
20:25.02Saroz:
20:25.03Saroz:|
20:25.22XuerianJust cause I don't remember it and miranda has no decent irc history plug, lol
20:25.30Sarozmiranda sux :(
20:25.38XuerianNot really o_0
20:25.53Sarozwell, it's been a few years since I used it last :)
20:26.26Xueriangotten a good bit better since :P. TabSRMM/ClistModern/AimOSCAR/etc
20:27.59KemayoHey Mikma, what was the "error on load" you mentioned?
20:28.19XuerianAh well. Seriously though, I'm gonna need to find a suggestion/todo page, and trac doesn't seem to fit the bill... Does WoWI have one of those for authors? <.<
20:29.53KemayoWoWI portals have a feature suggestions / bug reports page.
20:30.38XuerianMight have to up and actually submit XLoot then.
20:31.05XuerianThat means docs, though.... /twitch
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20:35.48Kemayo~seen Mikma
20:36.08purlmikma is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 134 messages. Is idling for 3h 11m 19s, last said: 'MAHADEVA!'.
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20:45.06vhaarro_O level 66 Draenei Hunter.
20:45.26AmadeoI imagine most of those are premades
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20:45.43JoshBorkeonly need 2 weeks to hit 60 right?
20:45.46nymbiai thought they wiped the premades off
20:45.50vhaarryes they did
20:45.52Amadeothat's not what I mean
20:45.54vhaarrThere are no premades.
20:45.59AmadeoBlizzard gives out special privledges to people
20:46.05nymbiaah
20:46.41Amadeoa new employee was caught making characters on one of the PTR stages that had gear that hadn't even dropped yet
20:47.10Amadeowell, they said he was a new employee...but I think it was a cover up
20:47.16Amadeothe guy couldn't even speak proper English
20:47.23Amadeosounded like a kid too
20:47.41nymbiai remember that happening in the ZG patch
20:48.10nymbiai was doing a ZG pug on the test server and there was some random mage wearing netherwind robes
20:48.17nymbiaand of course BWL wasnt out yet..
20:48.21Amadeohaha
20:48.47AmadeoThis guy was in full Naxx gear before anyone had been that far in Naxx
20:48.56Amadeoand he had every class with that gear
20:49.03nymbialol
20:49.08Amadeoin fact
20:49.16AmadeoI even followed him around Orgrimmar when he was summoning items
20:50.02AmadeoI would imagine a lot of the 67's of the new races are similar...but I guess some are just crazy
20:50.22nymbiayeah lol
20:50.36CIA-1703eternally777 * r15960 10SacredBuff/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
20:50.36CIA-17SacredBuff:
20:50.36CIA-17* Merging changes in the branch to the trunk copy
20:50.36AmadeoI'd be pretty sad to lose a character like that
20:54.17JoshBorkewhy is Grid stickied on the forums?
20:54.55nymbiacuz it's awesome! ;)
20:55.06hasteAnyone had the chance to test oPen?
20:55.10CIA-1703kemayo * r15961 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Fixed deformat arg2 is nil error on line 161.
20:55.24XuerianoPen?
20:56.28nymbia"Open lockboxes by just clicking on them, in trade and inventory."
20:56.30KalamadiThe oPen is stronger than the sword.
20:56.38JoshBorkeMORE DOTS MORE DOTS!
20:56.38nymbiarogues only then?
20:56.56XuerianSomething like Jackknife then?
20:57.01Qshadowp[NS]9[04JoshBorke9-> 1% wipe -100dkp!
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20:58.17hastenymbia: yes
20:58.27hasteI can't test it myself :<
20:58.31XuerianWow. Is no one going to tear Qshadowp[NS] into little, tiny peices?
20:58.37nymbiawell then no, i wont test it ;)
20:58.49Qshadowp[NS]why would you want to tear me into tiny little peices?
20:58.54nymbiaunless they give mages back khadgar's unlocking
20:58.55nymbia;)
20:59.09AKXBtw, how does incremental gc really work?
20:59.27KalamadiQshadowp[NS]: Colors are BAD. BAD!
20:59.32Kalamadi~spank Qshadowp[NS]
20:59.33purlACTION bends Qshadowp[NS] over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on Qshadowp[NS]'s pasty white buttocks.
20:59.34Qshadowp[NS]:O
20:59.41Qshadowp[NS]should i set my monitor to B&W?
20:59.47XuerianPurl is c-sexual >.>
21:00.04XuerianOr is it asexual.
21:00.12Qshadowp[NS]btw kudos to who ever wrote the WelcomeHome your first addon thing im reading it now and its really great :>
21:00.20AKX4Co7lo8rs 9ca11n b12e useful visual cues in addons though. (And excuse me about that :P)
21:00.32Kalamadi...
21:00.34Qshadowp[NS]yea :D
21:00.36Kalamadi~spank AKX
21:00.38purlACTION bends AKX over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on AKX's pasty white buttocks.
21:00.39Qshadowp[NS]i write my own mIRC addons :)
21:01.20Xuerians/ircc/irssi/
21:01.37KalamadiI shall be known henceforth as Kalamadi the Spankmaster.
21:01.49Qshadowp[NS]i wrote my own themes, commands, anti spam, auto identify, language translation via babelfish and a few other scripts ;)
21:02.26KalamadiI'm scared of me, too.
21:02.33GngskI've been a bad boy.
21:02.49Xuerian....
21:03.00GngskThat's Kalamadi's queue...
21:03.02Qshadowp[NS]O.o
21:04.27Qshadowp[NS]lol lua is so similar to IRC scripting
21:04.37Qshadowp[NS]i mean the whole way it works n all
21:04.48Xuerians/irc/mirc/
21:04.49Qshadowp[NS]irc is 99% event based too :)
21:05.28kergothlua isnt event based, wow's use of lua is
21:05.47kergothand i think you mean mirc scripting, unless you also have experience with irssi perl scripts or something
21:06.05Qshadowp[NS]yea
21:06.17Qshadowp[NS]sigh people allways have to be so perfect :(
21:07.24haste~kergoth
21:07.25purlit has been said that kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer currently working for Openedhand Ltd (o-hand.com), remotely, from AZ.  Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSlib.  Often the resident BOFH, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware.
21:07.30hastesee, he warns people :d
21:07.35kergoth;)
21:07.38XuerianThat's like walking into a bar and dissing alcoholics
21:07.54Qshadowp[NS]i mean with IRC its on *:EVENT:(possible channel or private message identifier here):{ Do stuff } and with lua its function youraddon:EVENT() do stuff on next line
21:08.04Qshadowp[NS]and by IRC i mean mIRC *must be perfect*
21:08.14kergothnot perfect, accurate.
21:08.21kergothmirc isnt the only, or even the best, irc client out there
21:08.22Qshadowp[NS]ok :P
21:08.37Qshadowp[NS]yea its probably not but i like the way its so customizeable
21:08.44Qshadowp[NS]easily customizeable that is
21:09.49Qshadowp[NS]and thats also why i <3 wow lol
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21:10.02Qshadowp[NS]i probably spend more time on my ui than i actually do playing the game lol :>
21:10.16XuerianThat's one thing I think many of us can agree on :p
21:10.50eternally777o/
21:10.54vhaarrrofl, beta servers just disappeared.
21:11.00vhaarr*boom*
21:11.09vhaarrUSA nuking France?
21:11.15vhaarroh wait, all beta servers are in USA
21:11.17JoshBork1yes
21:11.19eternally777I wouldn't rule out the possibility
21:11.27vhaarrUSSR nuking USA maybe?
21:11.36eternally777I'd rule out that possibility
21:11.40vhaarrokay
21:11.46eternally777N. Korea probably.
21:11.47vhaarrNorth-Korea, then.
21:11.49vhaarrindeed
21:12.07eternally777Or Iraq, because we all know they have hidden WoMDs
21:12.10sylvanaarwhile we are talking trash - any ideas for interesting and useless modules i can add to Interview (to expose local data to remote recievers)
21:12.56vhaarrsylvanaar: Quests.
21:13.00XuerianInventory browser. Skill browser. Equip browser. Addon list. That cover it, or am I thinking of different things?
21:13.08vhaarrQUESTS
21:13.11vhaarrFOR GODS SAKE
21:13.11kergothprofessions, what recipes they have
21:13.13Chrizowarlock dot timers with nice candybars i need
21:13.14XuerianQuests would be good too
21:13.20vhaarrQuests would be excellent.
21:13.25kergothChrizo: chronometer has that
21:13.53sylvanaaryeah, i was thinking of talent tree and addon list too
21:13.55MikmaKemayo: Laric added your lib in !!!Libs and it is giving out an error. so i had to take it off from .toc
21:13.58vhaarrsylvanaar: Obviously the quest log takes care of that if the person is in your party and close ...
21:14.09vhaarrMikma: He fixed it now.
21:14.22Mikmavhaarr: /pat someone
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21:14.36vhaarr~pat Kemayo
21:14.38purlACTION pats Kemayo and says "Nicely Done!"
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21:15.01sylvanaarok - which quest detail sharing mod should i support
21:15.08vurlixin Grid, what's the difference between a player box with a gray colored background and a class colored box?
21:15.19vhaarrsylvanaar: Quest detail sharing mod?
21:15.42XuerianQuest detail sharing mod? o_0 This sounds like it needs it's own interface, just a list of quests that the other person has, perhaps in a tablet or something?
21:15.57[FH]Birdemanidoes grid only work on beta?
21:16.00vhaarrno
21:16.32XuerianOh. table.
21:16.35XuerianThat kind of table.
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21:17.43vhaarrcan anyone give me a bugsack error on pastebin?
21:17.56vhaarrany error
21:18.15vhaarrnevermind, servers up again
21:18.44sylvanaarinterview has no interface - its there to enable other mods that need remote data. im just adding random stuff to it.
21:18.49XuerianHm
21:19.00vhaarrsylvanaar: hrm
21:19.04Xueriansylvanaar: I need to be able to query inventory and equipment
21:19.30vhaarrsylvanaar: Then you should add support for it to FuBar_QuestsFu ^^ Like "4 other online guildmates are on this quest"
21:19.36XuerianEquipment by slot, inventory by ... equip type?
21:19.41vhaarrand in the mob tooltip "1 player in your party needs this mob"
21:19.44Xuerianboth...equip...slot....whatever >_<
21:20.20sylvanaarok, that sounds like a good module for me to add - inventory, im doing buff/debuffs, and spell/abilities also
21:20.24XuerianOh, that would be nifty. Xxxx has 2/3 of this mob
21:20.33vhaarrindeed that would be very nice
21:22.37sylvanaaryes, exactly the kind of ideas i was looking for
21:22.51eternally777is there an Ace2 oCB yet?
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21:23.17AdrineAfternoon, folks
21:23.23Xuerianheya Adrine.
21:23.39AdrineAceDB question, if I could
21:23.44PlorkyeranThe version WAU gave me is Ace2
21:23.49vhaarreternally777: The trunk version is Ace2.
21:23.53AdrineAre DBs not available during OnLoad?
21:24.19AdrineI'm having trouble getting access to (var).db.realm during a dropdown initialization.
21:25.16vhaarrvar.db.realm?
21:25.20vhaarrit's self.db.realm.var
21:25.45snurre-hm, didnt take long for NWN2 to bug out :/
21:26.00snurre-just lost all textures and couldnt see anything but a green void + UI
21:26.08Xueriansnurre-: erk. How was it till then?
21:26.11AdrineWell, no
21:26.23AdrineI have SanityItemCache, which is an AceLibrary
21:26.31AdrineSanityItemCache.db is its database, naturally
21:26.38snurre-havent seen much, still messing about in the noob area... but looks ok so far.. except for a known bug that makes all movement extremely choppy
21:27.05Xueriansnurre-: I just hope that obsidian plays like bioware did and keeps up a steady stream of patches
21:27.10AdrineAttempting to access SanityItemCache.db.realm from the OnLoad on a dropdown tells me that "db" is a nil value, though it works when I do it manually.
21:27.21Xueriansnurre-: Seeing as Bioware was patching till a month or two before 2's release....
21:27.24AdrineSo I'm wondering if there's something I need to do to ensure my DB is loaded before the XML is parsed.
21:27.43Plorkyerandb isn't accessable until SanityItemCache:OnInitialize is called
21:27.43vhaarrAdrine: A library with a SV?
21:27.53vhaarrAdrine: That doesn't sound good.
21:28.06snurre-http://www.atari.com/nwn2/UK/downloads.php  <-- theres a patch, it seems
21:28.11AdrineWell, kinda. I'm still trying to figure Ace out, so I might be doing it wrong :)
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21:28.16vhaarrYou are.
21:28.16PlorkyeranWhich happens on ADDON_LOAD iirc
21:28.20snurre-or perhaps not
21:28.28AdrineIt's less a library and more of a module for my addon. It's not a generic library.
21:28.37AdrineI'm working off of the WelcomeHome example, FWIW.
21:28.40vhaarrAdrine: Libraries do not have savedvariables, since they have no way to define the ##SavedVariables, since they do not have a TOC.
21:28.48AdrineSanityItemCache = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0", "AceDB-2.0")
21:28.59vhaarrah
21:29.04vhaarrThat doesn't make it a library.
21:29.06eternally777Adrine: ah, that makes it just another addon :)
21:29.17AdrineHeh, I didn't think so, but my terminology isn't there yet :)
21:29.21AdrineAnyway, no, it's not a library.
21:29.46vhaarrPastebin your code somewhere.
21:30.13eternally777You want your DB accessible before the XML is loaded?  Then make a main lua file and make sure it comes before the XML file in your .TOC file.  That *should* do it.
21:31.14hasteoh!
21:31.16eternally777vhaarr: Am I wrong?
21:31.20hasteI started emptying my tinypad today
21:31.33vhaarreternally777: No, that should work.
21:31.35Xuerianlol, what'd you find in the pages of crap, haste?
21:31.46hasteand I have a little script there to buy poisons, should I turn that into an add on and name it: oTravi :p ?
21:31.57hasteXuerian: I found oTrap :p
21:31.57hasteerr
21:32.01hasteoPen*
21:32.03Adrineeternally: Already tried that. Doesn't seem to work.
21:32.11Xuerianlol, make them both
21:32.16sylvanaari have found the macro sharing thing i wrote to be really handy
21:32.17XuerianWell, oTravi
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21:32.25Xueriansince you made oPen... people seem to like your oSomethings :P
21:32.26vhaarrAdrine: Could you please just paste your code somewhere?
21:32.41XuerianAdrine: ace.pastey.net
21:32.45AdrineWorking on it. Pastebin is being nice and slow.
21:33.01Xuerianpastey-pastey-pastey, pastey-for-tha-win.
21:33.04vhaarrhttp://ace.pastey.net/
21:33.11Adrinehttp://ace.pastey.net/2082
21:33.13hasteXuerian: Otravi means poison, and it's an add on to buy poisons, so why not :p ?
21:33.24hasteor rather, to poison
21:33.28XuerianMakes even more sense :P
21:33.35sylvanaarlike, get my 'assist1' macro and put it on your hot bar....that was cool
21:33.52hasteI think oPen works tho', at least the opening parts of it works
21:33.58hastebut I added skill checking and such to it
21:34.00hasteand bag support
21:34.03hastewhich is dry code :p
21:34.11AdrineI'd move the init code into the OnInitialize, except that it relies on an implicit "this" reference.
21:34.15Xuerianhaste: At what point does it open the subcontainer?
21:34.26hastesubcontainer?
21:34.44XuerianLockbox, clam... That's what it does right? Thought that's what you said >_>
21:34.44AdrineI could try manually setting this, but I that's hackier than I'd like.
21:34.59hasteit's a rogue add on, so it opens lockboxes
21:35.05UrulokeIf you have created a frame using CreateFrame and you later do myframe = nil. Will that frame be completely garbage collected or will some bits of it still remain although you can't get at it?
21:35.06XuerianAh o.0
21:35.10hasteby just clicking on them
21:35.18hasteso you don't have to open your spellbook all the time
21:35.19hasteor bind a hotkey
21:35.25XuerianNifty, just making sure I don't need to catch/count for anything in XLoot:)
21:35.40hasteas long as you don't touch the trade window
21:35.44hasteor the bags, it should be fine
21:35.45XuerianNope
21:35.50Mikmawassup cunts?
21:35.59hasteMikma: I'm cleaning out my TinyPad
21:36.00XuerianWell, the loot window that the bag uses, but not the bags themselves
21:36.05vhaarrUruloke: Frames are never destroyed.
21:36.09hasteMikma: one add on out of it, and I found one more
21:36.13vhaarrUruloke: It's there even if you nil your reference to it.
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21:36.22Urulokevhaarr: meh, that's what I was afraid of
21:36.34Mikmahaste: you? cleaning tinypad? hah! all the 150 pages?
21:36.45Urulokevhaarr: So then it's not a very good idea to create frames, nil them and create them again huh?
21:36.56vhaarrUruloke: Indeed, that is a bad idea.
21:37.02vhaarrUruloke: Since they are already there.
21:37.10Uruloke*nods*
21:37.11Neronix`workOh Bugger
21:37.18Neronix`workI broke the speaker port on this new sound card
21:37.25eternally777Adrine: I don't quite understand what's happening on line 25 of your paste
21:37.30Mikmaanother update for BC heh
21:37.32Mikma99.5MB
21:37.34eternally777But whatever it is, I don't think you're doing it right.
21:37.35Neronix`workTime to wave byebye to another £10
21:38.02AdrineThat's just debug stuff. It fails on the previous line, trying to index realm.
21:38.41hasteMikma: It crashes my WoW now :p
21:38.56hasteMikma: so I'm taking out the working drycode and making it into add ons
21:39.07Mikmaoh WOW! it's 2.0.1 wow :D
21:39.09Mikmaso big update hehe
21:39.20Mikmahaste: care to spoil the addons?
21:39.54hasteMikma: so far, a Ace2 rewrite of RogueHelper (which I did for a guildy, never uploaded to the SVN), an add on to buy poisons, and one to open boxes with the click of a button
21:40.02hasteI've committed the last one
21:40.03hastenamed oPen
21:40.10Mikmahaha neat name
21:40.14NeronixNote to self: Stop tripping over the frickin' speaker cable
21:40.19Neronixlol yeah
21:40.27kergothi have a question.. a couple, actually, about grid... first, why do i have to select the size of the raid in teh options? why can't it adjust the layout as necessary?  and second, how does it choose how many rows it's going to use?
21:40.29hastewasn't me who came up with that :D
21:40.47hasteit was sylvanaar :D
21:40.53eternally777"for k in table do" is a deprecated way of doing it.. Not sure if that makes a difference, but I believe "for k in pairs(table) do" is slightly more proper :)  That probably won't fix your problem, sorry.
21:41.40Mikmaso i went to see borat
21:41.56Mikmahaven't laughed that much before in movies
21:42.10Gngskhmm
21:42.13GngskI think I'm gonna have to go see it
21:42.18Gngskhaven't been to the theatre since LoTR
21:42.32AdrineHeh, good to know. I agree, though, not likely to fix it.
21:43.40eternally777Adrine: I have to go to work, all I can say is good luck finding a different way to do whatever you're trying to do :)
21:43.53KirkburnWhat's that, LoTR? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Wow-Lotr.gif
21:43.54Mikmai'm dreaming of a "new" computer
21:44.06AdrineHeh, ok, thanks.
21:44.23eternally777Maybe create the frame with lua instead of an XML file?  see ya
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21:46.32hastethat was one more add on converted into a real add on
21:46.55CIA-1703otravi * r15962 10oRogueHelper/ (. libs/ moredots.lua oRogueHelper.toc):
21:46.55CIA-17oRogueHelper:
21:46.55CIA-17- Initial import.
21:46.55CIA-17- Basic convert of the old RogueHelper add on, done for a guildmate some time ago.
21:46.55CIA-17- Just makes a little frame which shows current energy and compo points.
21:47.14nevcairielhah, one more "moredots.lua" addon :)
21:47.26hasteI do that on all add ons:p
21:47.31hasteIt's from my template
21:47.36nevcairieli noticed recently
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21:49.40Qshadowp[NS]http://pastey.net/2083 whats wrong with this?
21:50.05haste:new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0")
21:50.07nevcairielyou wrote AceEvent=
21:50.07hastenot :new("AceConsole-2.0, AceEvent=2.0")
21:50.08kergothoRogueHelper, how does it compare to gonffbar?
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21:50.11Adrine"AceConsole-2.0, AceEvent=2.0" - change that to "AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent=2.0"
21:50.22Qshadowp[NS]oh yea
21:50.29Qshadowp[NS]i see :D
21:50.29hastekergoth: it just shows energy and combo points like the old rogue helper addon did
21:50.32AdrineRemove the : after print on like 9
21:50.56kergothah right, cool
21:51.02Qshadowp[NS]ah that too :D
21:51.03Qshadowp[NS]ty :D
21:51.17kergothwill have to try it, could see about dropping my HUD in favor of that and a decent playerframe
21:51.18hastekergoth: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-90-1-roguehelper.html << that's the original
21:51.30Neronixhaste: before I forget, I get empty debuff boxes under my pet unit frame for some odd reason
21:51.33hasteit was requested by a guildy, and small to write
21:51.51Neronixis it a known issue?
21:51.52hasteNeronix: Yes, someone else said that to me today also
21:51.52hasteI haven't had time to look into that yet :p
21:52.05NeronixI'll see if I can find anything
21:52.14AdrineIt looks like OnInitialize() gets called after XML gets parsed, even if the .lua gets loaded first.
21:52.47[FH]Birdemanianyone using oapplication here?
21:53.30[FH]Birdemanihave any advice on how to sell off items at the vender that can be applied? When I go to sell nightcrawlers, the wont sell, it just brings up the menu to apply them
21:54.11haste[FH]Birdemani: haven't fixed that yet
21:54.42haste[FH]Birdemani: I'll get it fixed asap tho'
21:54.53[Liquidor]Fix me a line too
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21:57.09sylvanaarwhat are quest ID's
21:57.43sylvanaarquestlog indexes or unique keys
21:57.54KemayoQuestlog indexes.
21:59.35LaricKemayo is questfu working? so I can go up in revision again? :P
21:59.54CIA-1703otravi * r15963 10oApplication/oApplication.lua: oApplication: Menu no longer works when at a merchant, or at the bank.
22:00.00haste[FH]Birdemani: there :)
22:01.32[FH]Birdemanithanks!
22:02.33Mikmaso
22:02.42Mikmawow will be atleast 2.0.1 when bc get's released
22:05.20[Liquidor]What's wrong here? http://pastey.net/2085
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22:06.37hastenew("AceConsole-2.0, AceEvent-2.0") should be: new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0")
22:06.40hasteas I asid
22:06.45dbu|bruzzhi there
22:06.51Qshadowp[NS]i fixed that 9[04haste9]
22:06.56hasteself:print should be: self:Print
22:07.02Qshadowp[NS]ahh ok :P
22:07.08vhaarrself:Print only exists if you have AceConsole mixed in.
22:07.10phyberoh, wow.  disable that nick colouring stuff.
22:07.10kergothhmmmm, wonder why grid doesnt work LoD
22:07.15kergothQshadowp[NS]: kill the color
22:07.15hasteReagentTracker:BAG_OPEN() should be BandageTracker:BAG_OPEN()
22:07.20hastethat's all the errors I see
22:07.31Qshadowp[NS]yea fixed that too
22:07.37hastealso
22:07.42hasteyou should use BucketEvent on BAG_UPDATE
22:07.50[Liquidor]Go write a new file for him haste
22:07.56[Liquidor]*wink*
22:07.56dbu|bruzzanybody here who can help me with ace addons not loading under linux
22:07.57hasteBAG_UPDATE is made of ass and file and triggers _all_ the time
22:08.13Qshadowp[NS]ok so i gotta add ace console and fix the print thing
22:08.21Xueriandbu|bruzz: pastey your logs/framexml.log file
22:08.25hastedbu|bruzz: download Ace2 seperate, and add add ons to op
22:08.26hasteerr
22:08.27[Liquidor]and the functions
22:08.29Qshadowp[NS]and the ReagentTracker thing :P
22:08.33hastedamn irssi
22:08.47XuerianCtrl+J? o_0
22:08.53hasteIt's like enter :p
22:08.58Qshadowp[NS]lol
22:08.59hasteand <Ctrl>+k = clear line
22:09.04XuerianYeah, that's a lot easier >_>
22:09.09Xuerian:P
22:09.11phyberhaste: unbind it :p
22:09.15hastephyber: so am
22:09.17dbu|bruzzthanks haste, i will try that
22:09.40hasteI use Ace2 seperate and let add ons load based on option dep here
22:09.47hasteI run ReisferFS4 if it matters
22:09.53CIA-1703kemayo * r15964 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (4 files):
22:09.53CIA-17FuBar_QuestsFu:
22:09.53CIA-17- Hook a lot more item tooltips.
22:09.53CIA-17- Option to replace Blizzard quest tracker with a cute lil' tablet.
22:11.34[Liquidor]Does Cases exist within Lua?
22:11.34hasteI have no idea why, but I'm in a really productive mood today
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22:13.29[Liquidor]like function ThisOrThis(var) Case "A": return "Ah"; Case "B": return "Bah"; Default: return "None" Case end end --- or something in lua?
22:14.17[Liquidor]Or should I use a table with keys as cases?
22:14.36hastejust use tables
22:14.42[Liquidor]Ye okay
22:17.19kergothhaste: suggestion, if possible, make it so you can click through the oroguehelper.  a lock option perhaps?
22:17.40hastekergoth: I can add that, it doesn't use AceConsole as you can see atm
22:18.26kergothno worries, just throwing it out there, since itll be right where you might be clicking, in the middle of things, for visibility
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22:19.50vhaarrsomeone please test this bugsack commit
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22:20.22CIA-1703rabbit * r15965 10BugSack/ (BugSack.lua BugSackFu.lua):
22:20.22CIA-17BugSack:
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22:21.59nymbiaok
22:22.42Dahnhello all
22:22.53nymbiahi Dahn
22:23.00KemayoHeh.  wowace forums generate a javascript error every time you enter a character into a text field.  :-D
22:23.48KaeltenKemayo: ?
22:24.12KemayoKaelten: It says "onkeyup, storeCaret is not defined".
22:24.23XuerianKaelten: The WYSIWYG still doesn't work, and I'm guessing that has to do with it :P
22:24.30Kaeltenheh
22:24.44KaeltenI probalby just need to reinstall some of it
22:25.01XuerianSeems like paths need correction or somesuch
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22:25.24Kaeltenprobably
22:25.49XuerianHardcoded or simply a db entry?
22:27.31Kaeltenhrm, not sure :) I need to dig into it.
22:27.37nymbiavhaarr: seems to be working well :)
22:27.58vhaarrnymbia: excellent, thanks :)
22:32.45CIA-1703kemayo * r15966 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Update LinkToID reference to LinkToName
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22:34.38vhaarrnymbia: more importantly, did you like or dislike the changes?
22:34.51vhaarrI think maybe the brown color is too dark, I'm not sure
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22:38.59CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15967 10Interview/Tests/Simple.lua: Interview: Respond to guild queries if you are on a particular quest
22:42.02nymbiavhaarr: the color seems good.  is there a way to make it a bit wider without making it super-wide?
22:42.21MikmaYEY my first Dishonorable kill
22:42.33Mikmadotted a civilian in accident
22:42.48Mikmathe lvl45 didn't last long and died
22:43.24vhaarrnymbia: I wanted to do that, but no :/
22:43.55nymbiaright now it's small enough that for some errors, error number is the only thing on the first line, file name is the only thing on the second line, then the actual error spreads over 2-3 lines
22:44.19MikmaOMG OMG OMG
22:44.27Mikmasonny crockett just got shot in the chest!
22:45.10KemayoMikma: What was that startup error from Quixote you were complaining about earlier...?
22:45.22MikmaKemayo: line 161, can't remember the rest
22:45.30vhaarrnymbia: let me look into it
22:45.51KemayoOkay, good.  That one's fixed.
22:46.01MikmaKemayo: something about deformat etc
22:46.22kergothhaste: fyi, cedega's fixed if you didnt know
22:46.27kergothno more crashy on login, thank god
22:46.30yacoobGadgetzan Times. Innocent civilian gets dotted. "When violence will end?", local community is asking?
22:47.38Kemayo(Though only for some fairly unusual quests, which is why I didn't catch it in testing.)
22:49.01vhaarryeah I read the code :)
22:49.15vhaarr|if var == nil then deformat(var, X) end|
22:49.19vhaarrI was like "wtf" :P
22:49.39KemayoI was cleaning up some unnecessary local variables and got a bit overzealous...
22:49.43Kemayo;_;
22:50.00hastehaha
22:50.17hasteif(var == nil) then table[var] end
22:50.20hastealso good!
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22:51.31nevcairiellol
22:51.41Neronixsetfenv(0, {}) is even better!
22:51.41Mikmanevcairiel: stfu and code DC ;)
22:51.48KemayoIt wouldn't be a problem if Blizzard wasn't shoehorning things into the "monster" leaderboard type that shouldn't be there...
22:52.54CIA-1703mikma * r15968 10!!!Libs/!!!Libs.toc: !!!Libs: Quixote is back, now working!
22:53.23nevcairieli hope tested and approved Mikma :D
22:53.49Mikmanevcairiel: meaning DC or !!!Libs? ;) yes !!!Libs is tested by me!
22:53.52Mikmawowowowooo!
22:54.12AKXGahh.. someone mashup ExperienceFu and FuXPFu...
22:54.21nevcairielwhat code did you upload to bt3 anyway?
22:54.28nevcairieljust bt2 vanilla?
22:54.37Dahnis there a recommended way to iterate over attributes of a secure button frame?  or is there a frame dump debug lib I can use?
22:54.43Mikmanevcairiel: yeah i renamed all bt2 files and all functions to bartender3 :)
22:54.59Mikmanevcairiel: and i removed the StickyFrames.lua from .toc since people say it's not working
22:55.10Mikmanevcairiel: i also tested that one out by myself and it works
22:55.55Mikmabut, not tested in TBC ;)
23:01.36CIA-1703schelli * r15969 10SpellCacheLib/SpellCache-1.0/SpellCache-1.0.lua: SpellCacheLib : fixed a problem where self.FullPattern could be nil in function GetRanklessSpellName(spellName) causing a problem with deformat
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23:04.03Mikmanevcairiel: people have been asking the "rows" feature for pet and shape-bars
23:04.28Mikmanevcairiel: but i don't think that they are needed in BT2 anymore since it's only 2 months for TBC ;)
23:04.55Mikmanevcairiel: SPEAK TO ME!!!
23:06.16nevcairielraiding :o)
23:06.22nevcairielrows ..
23:06.23nevcairieli dunno
23:06.29nevcairieldo they have switch?
23:06.36KemayoIs there a handy description of what's new in BT3?
23:06.43nevcairielnothing, yet
23:06.45MikmaKemayo: yes. TBC lolk
23:06.48Mikma-k
23:06.51nevcairielits the branch for tbc
23:06.56nevcairielunder development
23:06.57KemayoAll becomes clear.
23:07.00nevcairielnot working
23:07.03nevcairieland so on
23:07.03nevcairiel:;D
23:07.07Mikmanevcairiel: well they do have a swap, and i fixed it earlier to match actionbars
23:07.13Mikmawrong! it does work
23:07.23Mikmabut it has *nothing* to do with TBC yet :D
23:07.38nevcairieli prefer to tell them that its not working
23:07.38Mikmaonly change i have made is removed the StickyFrames from .toc ;)
23:07.42nevcairielso they dont get any bad ideas
23:08.05Mikmaand, renamed 'function Bartender:Foo()' to 'function Bartender3:Foo()'
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23:09.07Mikmaoh and i'm really planning on making a BT2 check to make sure people aren't that stupid ;)
23:09.29nevcairielscrew stupid people
23:09.50Mikmawell it's not that hard
23:10.05MikmaIsAddOnLoaded("Bartender") then DisableAddon("Bartender")
23:10.08Mikmatadah!
23:10.25Mikmasince the name now is Bartender3 in the .lua hehe
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23:11.39hastedoesn't it go by the folder name?
23:11.53nevcairielyeah
23:11.57nevcairielbut it changed as well
23:12.26Mikmahmm
23:12.39Mikmaoh well i messed up but anyway
23:12.48Mikmahaste: screw you!!11
23:13.08haste:D
23:13.12ElkanoKemayo, did you see the two bug messages I queried you?
23:16.56Mikmai'm really, really bored
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23:18.54sbugnnnk
23:19.02sbui dont like fankriss :/
23:19.06sbu3h wipe..
23:20.55koviwe used to do him with an aoe taunt + aoe rotation, which got always reeeaaally messy towards the end with 20 ppl dead or so, then we changed to offtanking the bugs where they spawn and never lose anyone at him any more
23:21.15nevcairieldunno, fankriss isnt that hard
23:21.29nevcairielyeah, two tanks get fankriss, and two offtank all adds
23:21.44MikmaFRS Coloring Book 1.3 (Shareware - 11/03/2006)
23:21.44Mikmacoloring book for preschool & kindergarten
23:21.48Mikmalol now i know what to do
23:24.13Kalamadi<3 Reuben
23:24.21Mikmaryben
23:24.43KalamadiI'll call my food what I want, Sally.
23:24.46Mikmawe have a "nickname" ryben for anal in finland ;D
23:24.56Kalamadi>_>
23:25.08KalamadiThat is so strangely in context with the other thing on my mind, it's scary
23:25.10Mikma"i'll stuff a pineapple up in your ryben"
23:25.18hastehaha!
23:25.24Kalamadi:x
23:25.27hasteI'm in a WSG vs [Ammo]'s guild :D
23:25.38Kalamadi<PROTECTED>
23:25.59steino_!
23:26.29nymbialol haste
23:27.03Mikmahaste: BACKSTAB STUNLOCK VANISH repeat
23:27.08Mikmakill kill killllll
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23:31.43hasteMikma: I'm combat swords :p
23:32.21Mikmahaste: nooooooes :(
23:32.57KalamadiWhy do class leads always expect the utmost of sympathy when handing out invites? "My girl's on her period, be quiet, I've had enough today."
23:33.29sylvanaarbecause it makes them feel important
23:33.45nymbialol
23:33.56KalamadiIt's like, WTF? Why does everyone expect sympathy when they never give it out?
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23:40.36sylvanaarattention
23:41.05sylvanaaris what they want - sympathy it just a form of it
23:44.48steino_woho
23:44.56kergothBugSack\BugSackFu.lua:54: bad argument #3 to `format' (string expected, got no value)
23:44.56kergoth<in C code>: in function `format'
23:44.56kergothBugSack\BugSackFu.lua:54: in function `OnTooltipUpdate'
23:44.57steino_me and haste beat [Ammo]'s guild in wsg!
23:44.59hasteRefusion > Auxilia
23:44.59kergothvhaarr:
23:45.01steino_imb
23:45.12vhaarrkergoth: gah, okay
23:45.37kergothother than that, looks slick
23:45.43kergothmuch easier to grasp visually on mouseover
23:45.51vhaarrkergoth: that was my goal indeed, thanks
23:45.58vhaarrkergoth: could you possibly give me the error?
23:46.11vhaarrthe error that caused it, I mean
23:46.34Mi|esfinally, raid end
23:46.47Mi|es14.15 - now, ~20k gold total
23:46.53kergothdunno, that was all i saw in bugsack
23:47.18vhaarrkergoth: if you open the actual bugsack window, the error should be there
23:51.03kergothwhere do you think i pasted that from?
23:51.19kergoth[2006/11/04 16:43:46-1324]: BugSack\BugSackFu.lua:54: bad argument #3 to `format' (string expected, got no value) is t he top line
23:51.20UrulokeIs there any way to clear the queue in AceComm's throttling bit?
23:51.22kergoththere's no header
23:52.13vhaarrkergoth: does it happen with all errors or just some?
23:52.40kergothoh i bet i know what caused it
23:52.55kergoththere it is
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23:53.01kergothit always follows the repeat errors
23:53.03kergoth[2006/11/04 16:36:22-1324]: last message repeated 3 times
23:53.10kergothpattern must not be matching that
23:53.18vhaarroh, that freaking crap
23:53.22vhaarrshould be removed completely
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23:53.25vhaarrI'll do that
23:53.34kergothhehe, thanks
23:54.51Kaelten:p
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23:57.15sbukovi: uhm
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23:57.31sbu1 tank at each position?
23:57.37CIA-1703rabbit * r15970 10BugSack/BugSackFu.lua:
23:57.37CIA-17BugSack: For now, stop those "last message repeated" messages from showing in
23:57.37CIA-17the tablet at all. I'll probably work on moving that stuff to just using a
23:57.37CIA-17counter field on the first error instead of actually adding a new error to the
23:57.37CIA-17sack tomorrow.
23:57.57sbukovi: full def gear i guess?
23:58.00vhaarrif Fritti doesn't beat me to it, which I hope he does :P
23:58.17koviyeah
23:58.30koviand then 1or2 more to catch snakes
23:58.37sbumhhh
23:58.51aE|neXterwe're doing the bugs with one tank only
23:59.09aE|neXterhe constantly runs from spawn point to spawn point, spamming demo shout
23:59.17aE|neXtercatching all the scarabs
23:59.22sbuhmm but 1 heal -> aggro to healer
23:59.24aE|neXter2 offtanks for the snakes
23:59.27aE|neXterrest on fankriss
23:59.31aE|neXternope
23:59.35sbusame problem with 1 tank / position
23:59.42aE|neXterthere are 2 priests, one druid and one pally (me) on him
23:59.46aE|neXterNO aggro at all
23:59.46Kalamadisbu: Paladins~
23:59.49sbu:/

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