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00:00.05pastamancerthe benefit of doing it the 'eachUnit' way is the clarity of using a generic for loop, and using a closure to hold your sort table and index
00:00.18snurrehm, why isnt Common an option in the standard threshold menu anyway?
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00:02.25pastamancer~seen neale
00:02.48purlneale <n=rollo@204.50.77.42> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 37m 53s ago, saying: 'this is nev's branch that you are looking at?'.
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00:04.16cncfanaticsAKX , ping
00:05.37Tekkuband I'm already the tech nerd, fucking joy
00:05.38cncfanatics~whois AKX
00:05.45cncfanatics~seen AKX
00:06.02purlakx is currently on #wowace (7h 3m 33s). Has said a total of 100 messages. Is idling for 1h 41m 42s, last said: 'Blame nev.'.
00:06.06Tekkubwatch in 2 min he'll come down and send me up to fix shit
00:06.39cncfanaticsTekkub, whats wrong ? (just came back)
00:06.50Tekkubnew job
00:06.52Tekkubday one
00:07.06Tekkubalready getting "fix mah compooter"
00:07.26cncfanaticsanswer them to go fuck off ? thats what I usualy do when I get fixmycomp request
00:07.32cncfanaticss/request/requests/
00:08.44Tekkubbossmen doing it
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00:09.11Tekkuband yes... "you good with computers?" "no, I won't fix it"
00:09.31Tekkub"Oh well when I opened it today..."
00:09.58vhaarrjust say "I hope you used a screwdriver and not a can opener"
00:10.35phyberhave some capsules stored in your mouth that when you bite them you start foaming.
00:10.43phyberbite them when people ask retarded questions
00:10.55phyberand tell them they caused it with their incredible stupidity.
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00:11.33ckknighthey all
00:11.37CIA-1703rabbit * r15790 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Supports a r,g,b table as color as well, and should no longer depend on the Colors module.
00:11.41cncfanaticsyo ckknight
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00:13.38CIA-1703rabbit * r15791 10ErrorMonster/ErrorMonster.lua: ErrorMonster: Pass the original color down to the appropriate sink instead of making it all red. Also stop playing sounds with the BigWigs sink.
00:14.18snurrespammer
00:15.08alcarasanyone having issues with raid frames with the latest aguf tbc?
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00:15.19alcarasi can't them to come up :(
00:15.42pastamancerthey're probably still broken since ag switched to the secure headers
00:15.54alcarasfunny thing is they worked before the switch
00:20.34cncfanaticsanyone having good understanding of SecureActionButton, SecureStanceDriver and SecureStateHeader cld explain em to me ?
00:20.38cncfanaticsi'm lost in using them :/
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00:36.18CIA-1703joshborke * r15792 10GuildBook/ (16 files in 2 dirs):
00:36.18CIA-17GuildBook:
00:36.18CIA-17- added new textures to the buttons dir
00:36.18CIA-17- implemented some of the new buttons
00:38.06CIA-1703rabbit * r15793 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Stop depending on the Color module. Still need to fix when a explicit color (like "Green") is set and the color module is present.
00:42.16Temcncfanatics, what are you trying to do?
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00:43.25pb_ee1Heya ;)
00:44.39ckknighthey, pb_ee1
00:45.22XuerianDammit, pasta..
00:45.30ckknightI want pasta...
00:45.41pastamancerI feel the love
00:46.01XuerianWas gonna go play eve, now can't till I re-write this :P
00:46.11pastamancer:)
00:46.15ckknighthehe.
00:46.23ckknightmance me up some pasta.
00:46.36pastamancerIt's risotto tonight :(
00:47.23cncfanaticsTem: I will need all features of them eventualy, but atm i'm trying to remap buttons on a stance change
00:47.43Temkay
00:48.03cncfanaticscan u help me out ? :/
00:50.08pastamancerXuerian: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#2.4.5 is rather informative on how the generic for loops work
00:52.44CIA-1703jncl * r15794 10oSkin/ (7 files): oSkin: Fixed Fade Height bugs; added 'force' option for Fade Height; skinned Auto-Bag; commented out ALL debug statements; removed extraneous parameter in Character Frame Tab handling code
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00:54.31Temcncfanatics, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=41716519&postId=425908359&sid=1#5
00:55.20cncfanatics:o nice post
00:56.33cncfanaticsTem, do u know if I can use numbers instead of names ? (like replace intercept with 0)
00:57.29Temyou should be able to, yes
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00:58.50Kebinusanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTTT8kZ1COs&NR
00:59.46cncfanaticshmmm, now I relook at my code
00:59.51cncfanaticsthats EXACTLY what i'm doing :/
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01:05.04Alarishahey peeps, I was wondering if any of you codey type peeps could help - I'm trying to alias a function to save myself some typing - I wanna alias abacusStyle = e.g. abacus:FormatMoneyCondensed - is that possible?
01:05.52TainI like Peeps.  They're full of sugary marshmallow tasty.
01:05.57cncfanaticslocal abacusStyle = abacus:FormatMoneyCondensed;
01:06.14cncfanaticsoh, and use . instead of :
01:06.22cncfanaticswld make: local abacusStyle = abacus.FormatMoneyCondensed;
01:06.26Alarishaah... maybe it was the dot
01:06.44AlarishaI tried with the colon, and got weird errors about expecting functions
01:06.45cncfanaticsa : wld try to call the function and set its return value in the var
01:06.53Alarishayeah :P
01:07.02Alarishagreat, thanks a lot, will try it now :)
01:07.05cncfanaticsnp lol
01:07.24Alarishaawww, don't lol at my ignorance, it's mean :P
01:07.43cncfanaticsI'm not lol'ing at ur ignorance :)
01:07.55Alarishathat's ok then xD
01:09.16Xuerianpastamancer: After looking at it for a while more I can see the logic in making it more usable externally, but since i'm not planning to make this a library or anything, it actually works better for me personally todirectly simulate the entire for loop instead of just the next() function O.o... Obviously I'm not making performance comparisons, but even that shouldn't be too far off, unless I'm missing something entirely. Now were I to make a utilit
01:09.16Xueriana closure format.
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01:10.01pastamancerXuerian: I'm not sure what the performance difference is, you should test :)
01:10.30XuerianYeah, I'm going to. I learned what closures are too, so that's a plus. Woo =P
01:11.02pastamancer<3 closures
01:12.16Alarishacncfanatics: it didn't work :(
01:13.33Alarishacncfanatics: when I call e.g. abacusStyle(number, true) it comes out with  Abacus-2.0\Abacus-2.0.lua:112: attempt to index local `self' (a number value)
01:13.55Alarishaam I calling my local version of the function wrong?
01:14.18nymbialooks like it's fine, it's just being called by something it doesnt expect.
01:14.45cncfanaticswhats on ur line 112 exactly ?
01:14.55nymbiawait.. number value.. ok that does sound off
01:15.05Alarishaheh
01:15.11cncfanaticsif ur trying to get the parent of the table ur function is in, its normal it fails with the local
01:15.16cncfanaticsthe local has no parent table ?
01:15.27cncfanatics(I think anyway, i'm not used to localizing functions)
01:15.33Alarishahehe
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01:15.48cncfanaticstry replacing self with abacus ? (or whatever ur table is called)
01:16.04AlarishaI set abacusStyle = abacus.FormatMoneyFull; in my OnTooltipUpdate() function
01:16.14nymbial112 is "self:argCheck(value, 2, "number")"
01:16.27cncfanaticsreplace self with abacus
01:16.38Alarishathen in a cat:addline text I have abacusStyle(cashIn[i], true)
01:16.42cncfanaticsbtw, use local abacusStyle =
01:16.52cncfanaticslocals are faster
01:17.00Alarishacncfanatics, that's an error in Abacus tho, I can't change that really, can I? :P
01:17.26cncfanaticsno it ain't an error in abacus actualy :p
01:17.42cncfanaticsits good coding, its just that self ain't declared in ur local
01:18.02cncfanaticsperhaps fake it ?
01:18.02cncfanaticsby doing self = abacus; at the start of ur stuff
01:18.06Alarishawell, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Abacus, lol, just that the error from what I have not done properly causes the error in 112 of abacus
01:18.08cncfanaticsthats a bit bad coding, but it shld work
01:18.25nymbiaor
01:18.33nymbiaalias the argcheck function too
01:19.10Alarishahmm
01:19.11cncfanaticstry this when declaring ur abacusStyle var:
01:19.11cncfanaticslocal self, abacusStyle = abacus, abacus.FormatMoneyFull;
01:19.29cncfanaticswld that work u think nymbia ? (i'm learning that stuff too, and will need it soon :p)
01:19.57nymbiauh.. i've never tried overwriting self.  this could explode spectacularly.
01:20.02nymbiagive it a shot!
01:20.07Alarishaif I changed self it would break the rest of the db variables called in the tooltip :P
01:20.15nymbiawell you can replace those
01:20.23Alarishatrue enough
01:21.00cncfanaticswell, it ain't good practice
01:21.05nymbianot even close.
01:21.07nymbialol
01:21.08cncfanaticsI just use it to fake events most of the time
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01:21.20AlarishaI suppose... I could put the cat:addline which calls my local abacusStyle in an if 1 == 1 loop, then the selds and locals would be overwritten only in the loop :P
01:21.22cncfanaticsevent = ""; arg1 = ""; :OnEvent();
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01:21.41cncfanaticsif(true) then works even better Alarisha
01:21.42nymbiasounds good ala
01:21.50Alarishahmm, let's try that
01:21.55Alarishahehe
01:23.30cncfanatics(bah, this sucks, i'm install TBC through a god damn SAMBA mount)
01:23.38cncfanatics(even slower then the regular install)
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01:25.38Alarishanope, same error
01:25.47nymbiaouch
01:26.06nymbiacnc: the TBC installer takes like an hour and a half anyway, lol
01:26.19ckknightit didn't take me that long.
01:27.20cncfanaticstakes 40ish minutes for me usualy
01:27.26cncfanaticsnow its running 20 already and its at 10%
01:28.01nymbiaAlarisha: well, i guess you could just overwrite that abacus function with what you need it to be as a temporary fix..
01:28.16Alarisha:/
01:28.39Xuerianpastamancer: http://imagesocket.com/view/iteratorse61.png -- http://xuerian.net/pastaiterator.lua http://xuerian.net/xueriterator.lua
01:28.46cncfanaticsor u cld copy it and use a 'fixed' version of ur own
01:28.52cncfanaticsthat wldnt be used anywhere else ofc
01:29.15nymbiai'm not very familiar with abacus, but my guess is that it wont harm anything to change that self to a literal object name on the svn.
01:29.16XuerianHmm....  yeah nevermind that.
01:29.18Xuerian>_<
01:29.26Xuerian~tryme
01:29.31purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at xuerian and fires. Click.
01:29.41pastamancerhmm
01:29.55XuerianIt's doing something differently. Again, nevermind me :p
01:30.01pastamanceryeah
01:30.22pastamancerthe sort closure should only be called once
01:30.36ckknightXuerian:
01:30.37ckknightif (not (type(tableToNil) == "table")) then
01:30.37ckknightwtf.
01:30.40ckknighticky.
01:30.49ckknightif type(tableToNil) ~= "table" then
01:31.11Xuerianckknight: I can honestly say I don't know how I did that. XD
01:31.18ckknightalright
01:31.31ckknightnow you do
01:31.41XuerianActually I believe that's a direct cp line from MentalPower. So it's my dire fault having not corrected it :p
01:32.31MentalPoweryah, that does look like my code
01:32.32ckknightalso, I'd consider the whole thing pretty icky
01:32.36ckknightwant me to have a go at it?
01:32.51Xuerianckknight: Have at.
01:32.58ckknightokay, what's the problem?
01:33.04ckknightspecifically, lay it out
01:33.28ckknightgiven a whole bunch of units, iterate through them sorted by class?
01:33.52XuerianIt's a benchmark, I use the iterateTable function in XLoot Master
01:34.04ckknightokay
01:34.12ckknightbut is that the problem, though?
01:34.18MentalPowerBTW ckknight both things compile to the same bytecode
01:34.19ckknightiterated through them, sorted by class
01:34.32ckknightMentalPower, but one looks bad.
01:34.36XuerianI don't believe there is one. Except I messed up something in pasta's code, or didn't make a eqilvalent setup for iteratetable, so the results were different
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01:34.53ckknightXuerian, by problem, I meant what you were trying to accomplish
01:35.00XuerianSee which was faster. o_0
01:35.04MentalPowernot according to me, it looks better in my eyes, but every coder has his book. so why don't we just agree to disagree
01:35.11ckknightguess you still didn't get it
01:35.57XuerianI took Pasta's demonstration of a storting iterator, sliced out his functions and replaced them with mine, wrapped the wires around the approprite terminals and ZZZTTT flipped the complie switch. :P
01:36.08Xueriancompile. Ergh, Can't even type tonight.
01:36.20ckknightokay, now do you want to sort alphabetically, or do you want Wars to come first, Druids next, etc?
01:37.30Xuerianckknight: You're asking a question I haven't asked myself. I hadn't even seen the output, nor thoroughly examined what pasta's code was aiming for. I believe I left out the key argument in iterateTable, which caused it to sort by something other than was desired.
01:38.01ckknightI'll assume alphabetically, then
01:38.09XuerianWould most likely be a safe assumption.
01:41.26XuerianActually, pastamancer: What IS the benchmark supposed to do? print out a full group with random classes, iterating through it 100000 times then printing it? And what did I mess up in yours? x.x
01:42.09Xuerians/print out/generate/
01:44.06pastamancerI forget why I originally wrote that, I can't find the iterator I was comparing it to
01:46.39pastamanceryou're not using my sort function
01:47.06pastamanceror rather, you're not using the same sort function in both scripts
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01:48.02pastamancerIt was just to show you how an iterator works in a for loop
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01:48.51XuerianYeah... This has rather passed the inital intentions x.x
01:51.16CIA-1703usz * r15795 10TooltipExchange/ (Core.lua Modules/Communication.lua TooltipExchange.toc):
01:51.16CIA-17TooltipExchange
01:51.16CIA-17- Added reporting Memo lists to several chat channels
01:51.16CIA-17- Added local game cache valid item mining
01:51.26CIA-1703joshborke * r15796 10GuildBook/ (gui.lua gui.xml): GuildBook: more gui stuff
01:52.05Alarishacncfanatics, nymbia: made myself a little function called AbacusStyle(), which returns cash formatted according to the criteria I want, so all fixed :)
01:52.22uszow noes JoshBorke uses .xml files!
01:52.33Alarishait calls abacus:FormatMoneyWhatever and returns
01:53.04CIA-1703joshborke * r15797 10GuildBook/gui.xml: GuildBook: more gui stuff
01:53.06JoshBorkeusz: yes.  for this i do because it make sense
01:53.45nymbiaAlarisha: nice :D
01:54.20cncfanaticscheerss Alarisha :)
01:54.36cncfanaticss/ss/s/
01:54.45Alarisha:)
01:54.58cncfanaticsok WTF is this
01:55.04ckknightXuerian, almost done
01:55.17cncfanaticsI got the installer on my windows (2.0.0 enGB TBC patch) and it STILL won't start up
01:55.33nymbiawhat's the error cnc?
01:55.39ckknightalso, what does collapse do?
01:56.00cncfanaticsThe installer was unable to startup. You may be out of hard drive space.
01:56.07cncfanaticsI'm thinking its just a generic error msg
01:56.12nymbiayup
01:56.12cncfanaticsas I got 100+ gig left
01:56.25nymbiathat'd have to be one hell of and expansion.
01:56.30cncfanaticsso I transfered over to my windows
01:56.43cncfanaticsand tried installing TBC on my linux comp thru network
01:56.51cncfanaticsinstall works, but the damned patch still gives that error
01:56.57nymbiathe same one?
01:56.59Xuerianckknight: It's meant for emulating ipairs over integer-indexed tables with holes in the series of integers
01:57.10XuerianAt least, I think <.<
01:57.13cncfanaticsyea
01:57.19XuerianI just write it, I don't understand it. 0_o
01:57.30pastamancerwrite-only code? :p
01:57.42nymbiaa friend of mine had major issues with patching it up to full be he had the patcher crashing, not giving space errors
01:57.46XuerianThat's the philosophy!
01:58.01cncfanaticsi'm thinking my installer might be corrupt
01:58.03cncfanaticsgonna redl it
01:58.14nymbia:(
01:58.49gngskjust pull out the torrent and use a real client :p
01:58.49cncfanaticsgot any other suggestions ? :/
01:58.58cncfanaticshow gngsk ? dsnt seem to work for beta
01:59.13cncfanaticsmy little perl script stopped working :p
01:59.23cncfanaticsanyway, i need sleep, its 3am
01:59.26gngskahh, hmm
01:59.27cncfanaticscya all tomorrow
02:00.04Xuerianckknight: The benchmark file missed the origional comments I had on it: http://ace.pastey.net/2020
02:00.09ckknightah
02:00.36ckknightbtw, my code returns a proper iterator
02:00.44ckknightinstead of the bastardized version you have :-P
02:00.47XuerianWouldn't expect any less.
02:00.49nymbialol
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02:08.27Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2896.new#new
02:08.29Industrialsylvanaar: :P
02:09.50ckknightokay, I got sorting by a given key working
02:09.54ckknightthrough some metatable madness
02:10.37ckknightstill don't quite get collapse, though
02:10.48ckknightjust don't see the point
02:11.53ckknightfrankly don't think it's needed
02:11.56XuerianThere might not be a point, actually. It had to do with me sorting lists of rolls.
02:13.31ckknightoh well, with sorting et al, mine is now 40% faster than yours
02:13.42ckknightand uses less memory
02:13.46sylvanaarIndustrial: :P it gets the remote code onto client machines via an all-in-one method. that's one thing
02:13.51ckknight:-P
02:13.54ckknightnot to put you down
02:13.57nymbia(this is the part where ck charges you 10 bucks for it)
02:13.57Xuerian(Note to self... When a better function is desired, code something horrible and attempt a comparison at something else, while ckk is present....)
02:13.59ckknightI did this as an exercise
02:14.26ckknightand it's icky, cause you can't do one inside the other :-P
02:14.29XuerianDealing with metatables, however, is something I'd have no clue about :P
02:14.36ckknightbut if that doesn't happen, you'll be fine
02:14.39Xuerianyeah, mine kinda handles that o_0
02:14.45XuerianAnd it needs to, because I do that o_0
02:16.25sylvanaarIndustrial: and its has the cool bit of code that lets you share SWS panel configurations at runtime... =P
02:16.35ckknightactually, yours will fuck up on that ;-)
02:16.45ckknightwait
02:16.46ckknighthrm
02:16.46XuerianIt doesn't seem to in practice :)
02:16.46ckknightno
02:16.53ckknightokay, lemme work on mine to make sure that doesn't happen
02:17.16XuerianI don't recycle tables properly, I know, but I use a global table index that I grab a new one from each time
02:17.54ckknightglobals are evil, remember
02:18.06XuerianYes they are. I remember.
02:18.15XuerianThis is why you're re-writing my code, remember? :p
02:23.32ckknightone of the reasons
02:25.11kergothanyone know if there's a defined order to the draw layers? background below artwork, i presume?
02:25.55nymbiahttp://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface#Layers_and_Textures
02:27.59CIA-1703sayclub * r15798 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua:
02:27.59CIA-17AutoBar:
02:27.59CIA-17- Update koKR
02:30.09ckknightalright, I think I'm done
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02:31.48XuerianOh? o.0
02:32.22ckknighthttp://ace.pastey.net/2021
02:32.24ckknightthere we are
02:32.35ckknightuses a lot of caching ;-)
02:32.46kergothnymbia: thanks
02:32.47ckknightdynamic programming ftw.
02:38.34ckknighthehe
02:38.37ckknightit makes sense
02:38.46ckknighthas to deal with some complex topics, though
02:38.53ckknightlike lua's iterator handling
02:38.57ckknightand metatables used for caching
02:39.23XuerianYeah.... Metatables.... lua manual best place to read about them?
02:39.45ckknightcheck the pil
02:39.50ckknightthey're wondrous.
02:40.12ckknightthey're amazing for use in caching
02:40.50sylvanaarthe lua manual is not very extensive
02:41.21XuerianWee, reading.
02:46.28CIA-1703joshborke * r15799 10GuildBook/ (gui.lua gui.xml):
02:46.28CIA-17GuildBook:
02:46.28CIA-17- finished new texture update
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02:50.14kergothsylvanaar: what the manual doesnt cover, PIL does, and vice versa.
02:51.26KirkburnNight all!
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02:54.07ckknightXuerian, if you want me to explain my madness, just say so :-P
02:55.34Xuerianckknight: Go for it =P Wading through PIL at the moment.
02:56.13ckknightlater, though
02:56.21ckknightlike, when I get to algorithms class
02:56.25ckknightdoing homework for that now
02:56.28ckknightI have 20 minutes
02:57.05XuerianOkeh :P
02:57.47sylvanaarJoshBorke: did you see this? http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3369
03:00.27eternally777LoL I like how there are two tutorials on WoWAce about SVN: One for beginners, and another for idiots.
03:00.45kergothdamnit, added a texture to a statusbar and cant get it to be above the bar, visibility wise.  tried setting the statusbartexture's draw layer to artwork, no luck
03:00.46kergothhrm
03:02.01XuerianLevel, not layer :p
03:02.27XuerianThat is, if the texture is in fact a frame object
03:02.32XLVIIWhat class would be the best for farming >_>
03:02.35XLVIII'm in dire need of gold.
03:02.37sylvanaaridiots use gui's
03:02.49XLVIIAnd a Restoration Druid can't do jack.. >_>
03:03.16XuerianRespec.
03:03.22sylvanaarresto is boring - besides theres no need to spec resto
03:03.57XLVIIMy guild has made me for Swiftmend and Nature's Swiftness
03:04.03XLVIII'm the only dedicated raiding Druid, so.
03:04.13sylvanaarmy guild has too many druids
03:04.55ckknightwell, off to class
03:04.59sylvanaari went full feral spec - its been a while - loads of fun
03:05.39XuerianHave fun, ck :P
03:06.26Funkeh`nn folks
03:06.39sylvanaarXLVII: yeah, i know - but when the talents are released you will get an awesome hybrid build
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03:09.00Tullerhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-druid/talents.html?500023212503130000000000000000000000000000050550301031502001300
03:09.43Tullerthat's my planned druid spec, but I don't raid
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03:15.56ckknighthey al
03:15.58ckknightall*
03:16.00ckknightin class now
03:16.29nymbiahi ck
03:17.41Kaelten:)
03:19.01XuerianHeya :p
03:19.45ckknightXuerian, so what didn't you understand, so I can explain it
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03:20.52XuerianWell, first I don't understand why the entire shabang gets wrapped in a do, then I don't get metatables, but that's just because I haven't... really.. read anything about them yet <.<
03:21.09Tekkubmetatables are a brainfuck
03:21.47Tullerthey're backup plans
03:21.48ckknightit's wrapped in a do for scoping deals
03:22.08ckknightmy metatables really only use __index, for caching purposes
03:24.04pastamanceris a metatable access any faster than a normal function call?
03:24.49ckknightdepends on the kind of metatable access
03:24.53pastamancer__index
03:25.16ckknightif __index is a function, then no, if it's a table, then it's much faster
03:27.22kergothXuerian: it isnt, the texture was created with CreateTexture, so its the draw layer i'm worried about, afaict
03:27.49kergoths/CreateTexture/the CreateTexture method of the statusbar/
03:27.54kergoth~stab purl
03:27.57purlACTION runs at purl with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
03:28.01XuerianOh o.0
03:30.36pastamancerok, so using a metatable to cache isn't any faster than using a normal function
03:31.19ckknightwell, what the __index does is set the value so it's only called once.
03:31.35pastamanceroh, __index is only called if the value doesn't exist?
03:31.40ckknighttherefore, it's slow the first time (cause it calls a function), and very fast every other time
03:31.43ckknightyes, pastamancer
03:31.47pastamancerah
03:33.24ckknightwe got our Algorithms midterms back
03:33.30ckknightI did the best in the class ;-)
03:33.44XuerianNice o_0
03:34.00ckknightand he's curving it so that 66% is a B.
03:34.06ckknightI got 89% :-P
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03:35.29pastamancerI see.  PiL > Lua Manual
03:36.00ckknightthey're both useful
03:37.00pastamancerwell, as far as describing the behavior of metatables
03:37.31ckknightpossibly, then
03:37.57pastamancerthe lua manual didn't mention that __index was only called for non-existent values
03:38.05ckknightah, okay
03:38.21ckknight__newindex also only works if the key doesn't exist as well.
03:41.30ckknightwe're reviewing the midterm for all of today... lame for me, seeing as I understand pretty much all of it
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03:41.38ckknighthey Legorol
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03:44.46kergothits annoying that theres no metamethod for already existing values, end up having to make a proxy table
03:45.22ckknightyea, for both __index and __newindex would be nice
03:45.27ckknightthere's patches for it and everything...
03:45.28ckknight:-P
03:45.45ckknightat least for __changeindex, I know
03:46.20kergothyea
03:47.04ckknightI kinda want that, and proper tuples
03:47.11ckknightoutside of that, I'm rather content
03:47.23kergothXuerian: well, switching that texture i mentioned earlier to be parented to a seperate actual frame object, and setting that object's framelevel above the statusbar works, but then its above the fontstrings.  need to be able to get it above those things draw layer wise :\
03:47.25kergothyea, same
03:47.27Kaeltengnight guys
03:47.31KaeltenI've got to get some rest
03:47.34kergothimmutable tuples would mean you could use them sanely as table indices
03:47.42kergothfoo[(1,2,3)] = "bar"
03:47.47kergothprint(foo[(1,2,3)])
03:47.48ckknightright.
03:47.48XuerianKergoth: Just like me and printers, me and textures don't get along
03:47.54kergothhehe
03:49.08ckknightI just want to do `... = someFunc(); dosomething(...); return ...`
03:49.14ckknight:-P
03:49.49XuerianMm... How would you use that? o_0
03:50.13ckknightmagically.
03:50.58ckknightI don't know a good syntax for making new tuples, honestly
03:51.19XuerianWoo, another thing I don't kow what is :P
03:51.33ckknightbut it'd be useful.
03:55.21kergoth[] would probably be more clear than (), given the lua parser
03:56.07XuerianI'd kill for [].
04:06.41ckknight<1,2,3>
04:06.42ckknight:-P
04:06.52ckknightor |1,2,3|
04:10.09ckknightif you can save a tuple in a standard local, you'd need to have both pack and unpack operators/functions
04:24.30eternally777When merging a branch to the trunk with TortoiseSVN, what does the "Ignore Ancestry" checkbox do?
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04:34.51mjcanyone about that can reset my dev pw? :P
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05:03.01Xuerian_AltI hate you all.
05:03.30XuerianWas going to have a nice, relaxing night playing a game for once, now I can't stop thinking about coding. >:o
05:04.54ckknightXuerian, hehe.
05:04.59ckknightwelcome to my world
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05:15.57CIA-1703xuerian * r15801 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Removed debug dumps. Who knew people wouldn't want them?
05:19.25Neeblerpussy eating pics! http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1162529676583.jpg
05:20.25Neeblerthose wacky asians, gotta love em
05:20.34mjcheh
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05:26.05kebinusanheh, great mod, http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5661-1-triviakiller.html
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05:32.33Neeblerheh, continuing the heh trend
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05:37.20ckknightwhoops
05:45.42ckknightthat's not an appropriate emote
05:45.51ckknightwould be
05:45.56ckknightbut you were missing a verb.
05:46.03mjcit is though, I took the verb out on purpose
05:46.35ckknightwhich gives it inappropriate grammar
05:47.19mjcckknight: 'shifty ninja eyes' is a verb now, get with the times
05:47.41ckknightI don't think it's conjugated properly.
05:48.03nymbia"shiftyninjaeyeses"
05:48.05CIA-1703kergoth * r15802 10kLagmeter/ (. addon.lua kLagmeter.toc libs/): kLagmeter: add a rewrite of LagOmat using SpellStatusLib and Ace2, for oCB. Displays the lag in the casting bar so one knows when to start casting the next spell.
05:48.18mjcsweet
05:48.44kebinusansounds interesting
05:50.05kergothhttp://kergoth.com/images/wow_058.jpg
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05:50.40kergothokay now i'm bored again
05:52.31KalamadiI wouldn't presume that works for oCB :/
05:52.37KalamadiNevermind!
05:52.40KalamadiReading FTL
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06:01.52TemWE REQUIRE MORE VESPENE GAS
06:02.27CIA-1703kodewulf * r15803 10Toolbox-1.0/ (. Toolbox-1.0/Toolbox-1.0.lua Toolbox-1.0.toc): (log message trimmed)
06:02.27CIA-17Toolbox-1.0
06:02.27CIA-17* Update TOC
06:02.27CIA-17<PROTECTED>
06:02.27CIA-17+ New function: NumberToWords
06:02.29CIA-17<PROTECTED>
06:02.31CIA-17<PROTECTED>
06:03.04ckknighthrm
06:09.58CIA-1703kergoth * r15804 10kLagmeter/addon.lua: kLagmeter: fix the bug when attempting to cast a normal spell before a currently being cast channeled spell finishes (i.e. attempt a heal while fishing without stopping first).
06:11.10CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15805 10Interview/Adapters/swstats.lua: Interview: removed a debug message
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06:14.19mjcbrb
06:19.43sylvanaaris there a way to structure the validate table in ace options for 2 parameters?
06:20.09kergoth?
06:20.20pastamanceruse a validate function?
06:21.06pastamancerwhat are you trying to do?
06:21.08sylvanaartype "text" - usage <word1> <word2>, yeah, i can use a function
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06:42.02Silviu-Morning :)
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06:43.02Silviu-kergoth i`m glad someone find my ideea usefull i might take a look over the OCB version :)
06:43.27Silviu-Wanted to do that myself but glad someone picked it up
06:47.01Silviu-Ahm zip have no libs in it
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06:56.15ckknighthey all
06:56.17ckknightback from school
06:56.21[Liquidor]hi
06:56.21ckknightgonna work on Cartographer
06:56.25kebinusanwhats interview?
06:56.27[Liquidor]back from the bakery shop
06:56.39[Liquidor]What's that ck ?
06:56.45ckknight[Liquidor], Ace2'd map addon
06:57.00[Liquidor]What kind of maps?
06:57.36[FH]Birdemanii like carto so far
06:57.39Silviu-again the svn for nondevs is broken ~~
06:57.45ckknight[Liquidor], world map
06:57.45kebinusanhmm like replace metamap?
06:57.47ckknightyes.
06:57.53ckknightI'm modularizing it now
06:57.54[Liquidor]Okay
06:57.59ckknightjust need to do a little testing
06:58.19[Liquidor]Uhm I was thinking
06:58.20kebinusanSilviu-:  mail clad and try adding a host entry for like the ip of svn2.wowace.com to svn.wowace.com
06:59.11[Liquidor]At what point do you determine wherether you should use Ace2 Lib or not regarding codesize (or actual addon-feature) of an addon?
06:59.21Silviu-That means i must relocate all folders ~~
06:59.38[Liquidor]I mean, if you just need some basic information ingame of something there wouldn't be any point in Ace2'ing it or?
06:59.39ckknight[Liquidor], um... I go with my gut
07:00.06ckknight[Liquidor], typically, I like to choose the Ace2 route, cause a lot of testing and optimization is put into it (at least the stuff that I write)
07:00.22[Liquidor]I see.
07:00.38[Liquidor]Was just thinking, are you Ace'ing your CT stuff?
07:01.38ckknightCT stuff?
07:02.13[Liquidor]Well is it just me or aren't you a dev of the ct mod? Always thought that
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07:02.31Tekkubøffe
07:02.36ckknighthey Tekkub
07:02.38[Liquidor]Falaffel
07:02.44ckknight[Liquidor], nah, that's Cide
07:02.49[Liquidor]Arh okay
07:02.50ckknighthe doesn't believe in Ace2
07:02.54[Liquidor]:)
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07:03.09[Liquidor]Then, what is it you've created I know of?
07:03.15[Liquidor]Must be something
07:03.30ckknight[Liquidor], FuBar
07:03.38Dhraga~seen andreasg
07:03.53purlandreasg <n=ag`@0x503e75de.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15d 13h 7m 11s ago, saying: 'ok, BC secure unit frame guys, how are you supposed to hide the target frame if the target unit doesn't exist?'.
07:03.53[Liquidor]Is that "all" ?
07:03.53ckknightno
07:03.53[Liquidor]Thought it was something else, but okay
07:03.56ckknightI code a shit ton of libraries
07:03.58weabhttp://wowace.com/wiki/Category:Author:ckknight
07:04.18DhragaLoL, first time I've seen anyong not knowing who ck is :P
07:04.36DhragaBtw morning all
07:04.39ckknighthey Dhraga
07:05.08[Liquidor]Well it's not like I don't know him, he's a nice guy *laugh*
07:05.20kebinusanSilviu-: no dont relocate your folders
07:05.35[Liquidor]Just merely haven't spoke to him about developing really
07:05.41Silviu-Then ?
07:05.55Dhragakk =)
07:05.57kebinusanjust edit your hosts file, set an entry like 123.432.222.111 svn.wowace.com
07:06.09ckknight[Liquidor], I'm rife with information
07:06.18kebinusanwhere the ip is the ip of svnN.wowace.com
07:06.26kebinusanand iterate till you find a working mirror
07:06.27Tekkubby rife he means ripe
07:06.29kebinusanand email clad :-)
07:06.33Silviu-Ah ok good ideea
07:06.33Silviu-:)
07:06.35[Liquidor]Uhm unfortunately I don't know what "rife" is :)
07:06.36Tekkuband information he means pitstink
07:07.01ckknightfuck you, guy
07:07.18Tekkuboh don't get me wrong, I love bear musk
07:07.24ckknight...
07:07.25Tekkubbutv well you no be bear
07:07.28ckknightwell I don't
07:07.31ckknightI'm totally not a bear
07:07.44ckknightif anything, I'd fall under "twink"
07:07.51ckknightbut I'm not gay, so it doesn't quite apply
07:08.01TekkubI file you under lipstick lesbian
07:08.18weabi concur
07:08.41ckknightI don't think so
07:08.41vhaarrckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2895.0;topicseen
07:09.01ckknight:-(
07:10.51[Ammo]ckk can I bother you about my AceModuleCore problem :)
07:11.07ckknightgimme a little minute
07:11.13[Liquidor]Say no
07:11.33Neeblerooooh a bracket trend!
07:11.40[Neebler]much better
07:11.47[Ammo]I only have the damn brackets because someone else owned the Ammo nick
07:11.57[Liquidor]:]
07:12.05[Neebler]shush. we're the cool crowd
07:12.20[Liquidor]Ye, we're on top of the channel list.
07:12.35[Ammo]that depends on your sorting :p
07:12.48[Neebler]mp3 [Melvins - You've Never Been Right] [2:30min] [192kbps]
07:12.52[Neebler]woops
07:12.57nymbiasort by 'cool crowd' obviously
07:13.17[Liquidor]ASC in this case ofc
07:13.34[Ammo]DESC is better, top guys at the top :p
07:14.11[Liquidor]It's kinda sad really, I'd love to develope addons and make use of the Ace2 lib, but I got no clue what to create.
07:14.11Silviu-[Ammo] dos him ;)
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07:14.21[Liquidor]:>
07:15.05[Neebler]disk operating system him! and don't Denied of service him
07:15.14[Neebler]denial. I'm tired. sleep beckons
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07:16.57DhragaBtw anyone in here are modifying the ag_unitframes themselves ? I just want to know if removing the rage/power bars in ABF mode but still have the Mana bars in would be hard..
07:17.19ckknightdon't conform, it's weird.
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07:17.36[Kebinusan]but now if I unconform Im conforming too!
07:17.53Neebler_zzzhaha
07:18.04Kebinusanheh
07:18.09Neebler_zzznow we must get butters to tapdance for our dance troop
07:18.20Kebinusanheh
07:18.23KalamadiTime to make font hinting work on my lappy <3
07:18.24Kebinusanthat was a great episode
07:20.46[Liquidor]Now let's see who gives the best answer...
07:20.49[Liquidor]1 + 1 = ?
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07:20.54Kalamadi42
07:21.20Silviu--1
07:21.21[Liquidor]Wasn't that exceptional, more likely borring.
07:21.22gxam10
07:21.29KalamadiSquare.
07:21.39KalamadiRice pudding.
07:21.58[Liquidor]Oh I know, my fav. food: Vanilla Icecream w. Ketchup <3
07:22.04Kalamadi...
07:22.21KalamadiThere's a level of disgust there which extends to my loins, sir.
07:22.30nymbiahaha
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07:22.52ckknight~1+1
07:22.54purlextra, extra, read all about it, 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1
07:23.13ckknightsee, [Liquidor]
07:23.13gnorlishshouldn't that be 4
07:23.13ckknightno.
07:23.22Kebinusan~2+2
07:23.23purl4
07:23.25gnorlishhey guy
07:23.28[Liquidor]uhm ckknight, it's new but quite not amusing
07:23.29gnorlishshouldn't that be 4
07:23.31Kebinusan~0/0
07:23.32purli heard 0/0 is an undefined form (equivalent to solving 0x = 0)
07:23.42[Liquidor]or is it 'amuzing' ? I bet on the 's' though
07:24.18Kalamadi~inf
07:24.24Kebinusan~yiff
07:24.25purli heard yiff is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiff
07:24.30Kalamadi=(
07:24.41ckknightamusing
07:24.44Kalamadi:O
07:24.54ckknight~infinity
07:24.55purlrumour has it, infinity is ibot: message for ibot: infinity
07:24.55KalamadiThis is definately fap material. *bookmarks*
07:25.07KalamadiYesh, I bookmarked. I didn't leave it in a tab.
07:25.34gnorlishok, what the crap is furry fandom
07:25.45gnorlishis it like people who realllllly like acting like cats?
07:25.50[Liquidor]wiki it
07:25.51Kebinusangnorlish: You must be new to the interweb
07:26.05KebinusanA fetish for every person and a person for every fetish
07:26.25Kebinusantekk must be sleeping though, Im sure he'd fill you in
07:26.41DhragaAnyone got a nice aced Casting bar btw ?
07:26.46KalamadioCB
07:26.47KebinusanoCB
07:26.54KalamadiI GOT IT FIRST, GET OFF MY LAWN
07:26.57DhragaThank you =)
07:27.01gnorlishnot to be mistaken with the very differently named oCD
07:27.05Dhragaehhe
07:27.19gnorlish~haste
07:27.21purlfrom memory, haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
07:27.24[Ammo]time to scare some more pedestrians
07:27.26[Ammo]~
07:27.40Kebinusanbring me back some chai
07:27.51KalamadiMe too! I'm thirsty and sleepy.
07:28.16Neebler_zzzI read that as "time to scare some more pederasts"
07:30.30KalamadiHmm. Coding in XML + listening to Jrock gives me some strange nostalgic feeling about something that never really existed :o
07:30.59[Liquidor]'chicken wing'' ice cream <3
07:31.10KebinusanCurry Ice cream
07:31.20nymbiabrb ice cream
07:31.22KalamadiStop it! I can't take much more ;_;
07:31.31nymbiagah
07:31.36nymbiawhat's all this crap with auctioneer
07:31.59nymbiaand which part do i need to load to figure out how to add support for it
07:32.13[Liquidor]Ice cream w. Ketchup http://www.wroctv.com/data/news_stories/12989_wackyicecream.jpg
07:32.15nymbia(then banish it forever to the recycle bun)
07:32.22nymbias/bun/bin
07:32.33KalamadiYou missed a /
07:32.55nymbiaoh damn
07:33.02KebinusanBest link evar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTTT8kZ1COs&NR
07:33.43[Liquidor]Here's the restaurant serving Icecream w. Ketchup / Chicken Wings - http://www.wroctv.com/news/story.asp?id=12989&r=l
07:33.53Kebinusanthats just wrong
07:34.20[Liquidor]Oh and not to forget chocolate spaghetti, spinach ripple, pickles and cream, pork and beans, and last year's treat -- succotash.
07:35.35KebinusanI guess if people eat deep fried twinkies anything is possible
07:35.37nymbiarofl
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07:39.03nymbiawow.  with no data whatsoever saved auctioneer (and it's little minions) clocked in at 1.321 seconds and 12.3 megs of memory.
07:39.10nymbiahate to see that sucker with a database to load.
07:42.14[FH]Birdemanijust use pinpoint then
07:43.37nymbiai dont plan on actually using auctioneer; i'm just adding support for it to manufac
07:45.21nymbiais pinpoint in a useable state yet by the way?
07:45.30ckknightis there some way to set a frame to have no parent?
07:45.38ckknighti.e. not have its parent be UIParent
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07:46.11[Liquidor]Don't even try that with the MinimapCluster ckknight , you'll get a disco screen
07:46.20ckknighttrying with Dewdrop
07:47.55[Liquidor]Well dunno if object:SetParent(alpha) still works
07:48.09[Liquidor]and if it does, if it's possible to nil it
07:48.36KalamadiFluxbox will use antialiasing, but not subpixel rendering :<
07:49.00nymbiai just tried SetParent(nil) and it seemed to work. the frame lost it's inherited scale and everything
07:50.33ckknightdoesn't work right :-P
07:50.38ckknightI got a fix
07:51.34[Liquidor]Uhm I got one for you: Objective: Find a way to make the MinimapCluster remain shown upon hiding UIPanel
07:51.49ckknightbusy.
07:54.19Neronix[Liquidor]: MinimapCluster:SetParent(nil)
07:55.02[Liquidor]Mission Accomplished, good boy :)
07:55.26[Liquidor];)*
07:56.16nymbiaif that worked then how were you getting disconnected liquidor?
07:56.44CIA-1703ckknight * r15806 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:
07:56.44CIA-17.Dewdrop-2.0 - now works properly when attached to a fullscreen frame.
07:56.45CIA-17Also, added names to the frames
07:56.45[Liquidor]disconnected? I'm not?
07:57.30nymbiaoh misread
07:57.37nymbia" Don't even try that with the MinimapCluster ckknight , you'll get a disco screen"
07:57.48nymbiai thought you meant you got knocked offline
07:58.02ckknighthe meant real disco
07:58.12[Liquidor]2 sec
07:58.13[Liquidor]av
07:58.29nymbialol ck
07:58.32[Liquidor]Well actually it worked
07:58.34[Liquidor]Didn't give disco
07:58.51[Liquidor]and yes Disco as in a disco fever
07:58.54[Liquidor]not dc
07:59.09nymbianice
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07:59.31nymbiadisco inferno minimap!
07:59.32[Liquidor]Actually this is just great. We tried all other possibilities with anchoring and points etc but didn't work.
07:59.45[Liquidor]Now I can finally complete my movie
08:00.03nymbiaoh pvping with the ui off and the minimap on?
08:00.05nymbiahunter? ;)
08:00.18[Liquidor]Tutorials for some gold farming guides
08:00.23nymbiaaha
08:00.46[Liquidor]I run some gold routes every day and want to show my guild it
08:04.59[Liquidor]Dewdrop = Tooltip lib?
08:05.27nevcairiel"learn to bot" :D
08:05.33vhaarrlern2toc
08:05.34ckknightno, [Liquidor]
08:05.35vhaarrhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/DewdropLib/DewdropLib.toc
08:05.42ckknight[Liquidor], it is an amazing Dropdown lib
08:05.46[Liquidor]Just asking here since I'm playing AV atm :)
08:06.09ckknight[Liquidor], you ever used Bliz's Dropdowns?
08:06.15[Liquidor]Arh okay, seen it within BigWigs
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08:07.14[Liquidor]Blizz's Dropdowns? You mean those looking like select objects+
08:07.31ckknightI mean coded with em.
08:07.37[Liquidor]Otherwise I don't even think I've seen a blizz' dropdown
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08:08.07[Liquidor]No not really
08:08.34ckknightalright
08:08.37ckknightwell, it sucks
08:08.38ckknighthardcore.
08:08.44[Liquidor]But I belive it's faster and easier to make a Dewdrop config frame instead of a normal frame
08:08.47[FH]Birdemaniso did all the EU guilds hear we had a US guild ( the full guild) get banned today?
08:08.47ckknightDewdrop's sucks significantly less
08:09.00ckknightreally? how?
08:09.04KalamadiDue to AceOptions being exess
08:09.04[Liquidor][FH]Birdemani: nope
08:09.06KalamadiEr
08:09.08[FH]Birdemani50+ members
08:09.13KalamadiExcessively easier to use
08:09.19[Liquidor]Okay
08:09.24ckknight[FH]Birdemani, what happened?
08:09.32[Liquidor]Explain? Url?
08:10.01[FH]Birdemanithey replaced the wall graphics in the mpq, killed skeram, walked to cthun, summoned the rest, killed cthun. They did this three times....and they were the first US horde guild to kill KT
08:10.19[FH]Birdemanianyone with any of the three raidid lockouts got perma'd
08:10.31vhaarrSuits them right.
08:10.35ckknightyea
08:10.40ckknightsuits those bastards right.
08:10.41nymbiai'm not sure they're perma-banned, birdemani.  the one post by one of them was one of those knee-jerk things from getting kicked offline.  the decision to perma-ban an entire guild isnt gonna rest in the hands of a low level GM, nor is it gonna be made overnight
08:10.48CIA-1703ckknight * r15807 10Cartographer/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
08:10.48CIA-17Cartographer - modularized!
08:10.48CIA-17Also, fixed issues with the AlphaScale module.
08:10.48CIA-17Removed slash command, just use the button in the worldmap.
08:10.50nymbiastill, they had it coming.
08:10.56ckknightplz test!
08:10.59[FH]Birdemaninymbia, they posted the email in their forums
08:11.02[FH]Birdemanier irc
08:11.04[FH]Birdemaniits perma
08:11.22ckknight[FH]Birdemani, link?
08:11.33[Liquidor]link please
08:12.07[FH]Birdemanihttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=43425267&sid=1
08:12.11[FH]Birdemanithats one of the 500 threads
08:12.19[FH]Birdemanimost got moved to guild recruitment
08:12.21[FH]Birdemanior general
08:12.26ckknightplease test Cartographer.
08:12.38[FH]Birdemaniill update and test later
08:12.43nymbiaok ck
08:12.43[FH]Birdemanitoo tired right now
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08:14.19ckknightooh, that's a bug...
08:15.03[FH]Birdemanihttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=43834450&sid=1
08:15.39[Liquidor]The guild is now recruiting all classes :>
08:16.34CIA-1703ckknight * r15808 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer - makes sure toggling of AlphaScale doesn't make things all screwy.
08:16.58ckknightokay, should be better now
08:17.24nymbiack: working pretty good :)
08:18.14ckknightyays
08:19.36nevcairielmorning
08:19.47ckknightmorning, nevcairiel
08:20.41ckknightI think next is map overlay (e.g. MozzFullWorldMap)
08:20.58ckknightdid someone already make an Ace2 version of that?
08:21.15nymbiai think someone was doing one
08:21.24nymbianot sure if it was finished or not
08:21.45ckknightknow the name?
08:21.55nymbianot off the top of my head, lemme take a quick look
08:22.12nymbiaunexplorer
08:23.23ckknightthat's a bit messy
08:28.19ckknightlet's see if it works ;-)
08:29.33nymbiawow, i think that's the worst thing i've seen all night
08:30.17nymbiaauctioneer's LoD, so it's data is not available to the tooltip hooker thing until you open an auction window
08:30.50ckknighthrm
08:31.27[Liquidor]lol @ US forums
08:31.52[Liquidor]YOu US guys got a disclaimer from Blizz side when viewing non-blizz content linked from the US forums :>
08:31.54[Liquidor]example: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/interceptor.html?interceptedURL=http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j195/drkieros/LegendaryThread.jpg
08:32.13[Liquidor]Or is that in EU as well? Haven't seen it yet
08:32.14nymbiayeah cuz of all the keylogger links
08:32.37nymbiaif there wasnt a problem for eu, i doubt they implemented it
08:32.40ckknightI get the warning in US
08:34.26[Liquidor]nah we got all the chinese ppl
08:34.28[Liquidor]and bots
08:34.37[Liquidor]1k bots per realm
08:34.44nymbiaheh
08:35.04ckknightthat's uncool
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08:39.25[FH]Birdemanihehe
08:39.26[FH]Birdemanihttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3582/orej2.jpg
08:44.42Silviu-ckknight thank u for another great addon Cartographer ;-)
08:44.46ckknight:-)
08:44.52ckknightnot nearly done yet
08:45.03Silviu-Looks nice till now
08:45.47Silviu-Now i need only ~2 addons ace`d :>
08:45.57Silviu-BonusScanner and PoisonMaster :>
08:46.33Silviu-And hope ammo will finish that PinPoint
08:51.11nymbiawhat's poisonmaster do?
08:52.55Silviu-Auto buys items when u select how many poisons u want
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08:56.42ckknighttekcub, connection issues?
08:57.07[Liquidor]no
08:57.09[Liquidor]He's just like you ckknight
08:57.14ckknight:-P
08:57.25ckknightit hasn't been bad today
08:57.44[Liquidor]=)
08:59.33ckknightokay, yay, I stole the Unexplorer
08:59.39ckknightnow to clean it up
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08:59.59ckknightwho is TotalPackage?
09:00.56[Liquidor]Dunno but if you're female I'll give you 1
09:01.55ckknight...
09:04.06nevcairiellol
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09:10.54CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15809 10Interview/ (Interview.lua Interview.toc Util/ Util/AceEventMon.lua): Interview: AceEvent Remoting Module
09:11.23AKXnevcairiel
09:11.36nevcairielyea?
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09:11.55AKXhttp://akx.ath.cx/API.html <-- DC's API docs, autogenerated ;)
09:12.19nevcairielthere are tools like that for lua?
09:12.20nevcairielcool
09:12.23AKXI just wrote one.
09:12.29Mikmahmm
09:12.31nevcairielheh
09:12.33AKXIn Python, though, but.
09:12.47nevcairielthats why you used that special commenting
09:13.09AKXYes.
09:13.25nevcairielthat HextoRgb func, isnt there some color lib that handles all of that?
09:13.32AKXYes
09:13.34AKXCrayon..
09:13.43AKXWill transition to that when needed
09:13.48AKX"16 undocumented functions"
09:14.00nevcairielmy frame movement and resizing funcs :D
09:14.22AKXYes. Documenting them now.
09:14.47nevcairieland i thought i had to do it later now :)
09:15.38Mikmasomeone seems to be *REALLY* excited about DreamChat
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09:18.10nevcairielanyway, i need to go to the town, bbl
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09:23.52nymbiaso working with auctioneer source is officially infuriating
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09:27.03sylvanaarheh i thought norganna was a pretty good developer
09:27.15nymbia:(
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09:27.40vhaarrI think norganna stopped working on auctioneer quite a while ago.
09:27.59sylvanaarthat would splain it
09:29.04nymbiathere's a function in informant that's supposed to return the info of an item given an item id.  when called externally it's calling GetItemInfo with invalid arguments
09:29.14sylvanaarwho is developing it now? its still actively being developed
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09:29.44sylvanaarwhat version?
09:30.43nymbiathis is uhhh
09:31.00nymbia3.5.0.0819
09:31.03sylvanaar3.8 3.9?
09:31.10sylvanaarlol
09:31.13nymbiarofl
09:31.27nymbiathis is offa curse, where's the newer ones?
09:31.29abbat_woh damn, otweaks is pretty nice mod
09:31.34vhaarrnymbia: http://auctioneeraddon.com/dl/AuctioneerComplete/auctioneerpack-3.9.0.1067.tar.gz
09:31.41sylvanaar["Register"] = true,
09:31.41sylvanaar["Register for event notifications"] = true,
09:31.41sylvanaar["register"] = true,
09:31.48sylvanaarlame
09:31.59sylvanaarhttp://auctioneeraddon.org/
09:32.08nymbiathanks :)
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09:33.34nymbiaoh no, more modules
09:33.36sylvanaar3.8 is the release - 3.9 is kinda buggy
09:33.42nymbiawhats this beancounter thing?
09:33.42vhaarr3.9 works fine.
09:34.24sylvanaarthey are like everyone elses libraries - numerous
09:35.02sylvanaarbeancounter tracks your auction transactions
09:35.08nymbiaok
09:35.49sylvanaarwhat doe otweaks do - i was too lazy to read the code
09:36.34nymbiacrap... it changed functions around.
09:36.39nymbiai think i'm gonna cry.
09:36.44sylvanaar=P
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09:37.05nymbiathat's what i get for not finding the newest version on the first try
09:37.11sylvanaarwhat are you doing again?
09:37.23nymbiaadding auctioneer support for manufac
09:37.59nymbiait can add a pricing summary to the tooltip of trade goods, but right now it only supports KC Items
09:40.17sylvanaartry using the database from bottomfeeder
09:41.08nymbiabottomfeeder?
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09:41.34sylvanaarwell, nvm i just read they pulled it - yeah bottomfeeder was one of the auctioneer mods
09:41.56sylvanaarit had an average price database built in
09:42.00nymbiaits ok, the functions are all still the same, just.. slightly renamed and in different places
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09:44.13nymbiaand they changed some return values.. *grumble*
09:44.58cncfanaticsyo all
09:45.04AKXhey cncfanatics.
09:45.19AKXthe upload was broken at around 100 megs, btw :D
09:46.43cncfanaticsI saw :(
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09:58.05cncfanaticshmmmm, why is there a 2 page long fb2 thread and did noone ever link me to it ?
09:58.16sylvanaaryou know - i wrote an addon that scanned your buffs and let you do a substring search over the whole raid - and i cant find it....
09:58.49[Liquidor]Anyone know of an addon making it possible to scale frames?
09:58.56AKXVisor, I'd guess.
09:59.04[Liquidor]got a guy here who wants to scale his blizz frames but not the ui
09:59.24ckknightcncfanatics, happens to me all the time
09:59.39[Liquidor]AKX: is that the name of the addon?
09:59.48AKXThat's the Ace addon for frame modification
10:00.13AKXThough for ease of use at the expense of memory, Discord Frame Modifier
10:00.42abbat_w:)
10:00.45sylvanaaryour ui will never forgive u
10:02.15abbat_wbtw
10:02.29abbat_wvisor have gui or just command promt? :)
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10:02.41AKXThere's VisorGUI too
10:03.49abbat_wI use discrod frame modifier, but now with FuBar i completly clear my minimap i only need to control 2-3 minimap buttons. I think i can scale/show/hide it with Visor
10:04.08MikmaAKX: you know it right, that DC doesn't yet save settings
10:04.23cncfanatics~seen Ratbert_cp
10:04.34purlratbert_cp <n=Ratbert_@204.128.192.11> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 17h 31m ago, saying: '~emasculate ckknight'.
10:04.34AKXIt doesn't load them correctly, I think...
10:04.34cncfanatics~whois Ratbert_cp
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10:04.44ckknightwtf?
10:04.53sylvanaarel oh el
10:05.15cncfanaticsrofl
10:05.21cncfanaticscool guy :o
10:09.51CIA-1703hshh * r15810 10BigWigs/Plugins/Version.lua: BigWigs: fix zhCN locales
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10:24.29Nickenyfikenhmm, is Cartographer a replacement for Atlas like mods?
10:27.37KalamadiGuess I'm about to find out.
10:28.21KalamadiAmputee Fetishism :O
10:28.26KalamadiAlso known as "girls you can fit in a backpack"
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10:30.33vhaarrckknight: If a tablet is locked, I have to alt+click any func lines in it, could that be changed/fixed?
10:31.27Azurewrathninja code-requesting, omg ;)
10:32.10ckknight_no, vhaarr
10:32.20vhaarrthought so, thanks anyway
10:32.23ckknight_I don't know what you mean by 'fixed'
10:32.27ckknight_that's the whole point of locking it.
10:32.55ckknightbtw, as I'm going through Mozz's code and such, it's quite inefficient memory-wise
10:33.02ckknightmy new implementation is quite clean
10:33.13KalamadiMozz? I'm hungry.
10:33.22ckknightMozzFullWorldMap
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10:33.51`-FISKER_Qwhat's your implementation så? :P
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10:33.53`-FISKER_Qthen*
10:34.03phyberckknight: you wrote Unexplore?  or you're rewriting Unexplore?
10:34.12ckknightrewriting
10:34.23phyberalso, is the Gnomeregan map really called GNOMERAGON?
10:34.28phyberor is that a typo in there?
10:34.29ckknightquite possibly.
10:34.34phyberheh, nice.
10:34.37evl:D
10:34.38ckknightit's auto-generated
10:34.47phyberah.
10:35.02ckknightmy new way does it a lot more efficiently
10:35.15phyberI just looked at the code for La Vendetta for the first time.  Could it really have stolen anything else from BigWigs?
10:35.20phyberwhole code style is the same, etc.
10:35.21ckknightinstead of making a lot of icky strings like "RUTTHERANVILLAGE:128:100:494:548"
10:35.31ckknightyou have ["RUTTHERANVILLAGE" = 98356846
10:35.34KalamadiBanana pudding <3
10:35.36ckknight]
10:35.37vhaarrckknight: mind if I change LOCK_TOOLTIP_DESC to "Lock the tooltips position. When the tooltip is locked, you must use Alt to access it with your mouse.", or maybe you have a better suggestion for wording?
10:35.40vhaarrckknight: in FBP-2.0
10:35.44ckknightsounds good, vhaarr
10:35.45phyberckknight: cool :)
10:35.48vhaarrckknight: ok
10:36.28ckknightalso, I totally abuse AceDB's default system
10:36.31ckknightwhich works awesomely.
10:36.50ckknightUnexplore has some crazy merge
10:37.03CIA-1703rabbit * r15811 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: .FuBarPlugin-2.0: Clarify that you must hold down Alt to access the tablet when it is locked.
10:37.26KalamadiWhat sound does a rabbit make?
10:37.31nymbiamoo
10:37.43Kalamadi:O
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10:37.54MoonWolfwoof
10:38.10ckknightKalamadi, before or after you hit it with a shovel?
10:38.19KalamadiUh. During.
10:38.21samwisei've a few questions about bugsack&bugrabber
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10:38.32ckknightduring only lasts half a second
10:38.56Azurewrathhow about "weeeeeee"?
10:38.57KalamadiThat's unfortunate.
10:39.15samwisedo they work together with improved error frame from cosmos?
10:39.15samwiseand how do i make the missing bugsack-minimap-icon visible?
10:39.15KalamadiAzurewrath: Perfect.
10:39.54vhaarrIf you've seen Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail, you'll know that the rabbit will decapitate you so fast that you won't be able to register any sounds it makes.
10:39.57vhaarrSo noone knows.
10:40.13Azurewrathhaha
10:40.26AzurewrathBut what if you carry a Holy Grenade?
10:41.09vhaarrLuckily, BBC nature documentary crews do not carry Holy Handgrenades.
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10:45.07CIA-1703rabbit * r15812 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua:
10:45.07CIA-17ClosetGnome:
10:45.08CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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10:45.30CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r15813 10Ace2/Ace2/AceHook-2.1/AceHook-2.1.lua: .AceHook-2.1 - properly unhooks secure hooks.
10:46.10CIA-1703ckknight * r15814 10Ace2/AceHook-2.1/AceHook-2.1.lua: .AceHook-2.1 - properly unhooks secure hooks.
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10:46.35cncfanaticshmm, whats the difference with the TBC & main branch ?
10:46.38cncfanaticsckknight
10:46.43ckknightyes?
10:46.45ckknightoh
10:46.51ckknightTBC is for the burning crusade
10:47.02ckknightwell, WoW 2.0, specifically
10:47.03ckknighttrunk is for WoW 1.12
10:47.25ckknightTBC takes advantage of all the cool new stuff like ...
10:47.32cncfanaticshow can there be secure hooks in trunk ? :/
10:47.44nevcairielits a fake
10:47.45nevcairiel:)
10:48.13phyberthe version in trunk encrypts the hooks so you can't ever find out what your hook is doing.
10:48.20Mi|esAH-2.1: bringing secure frame headache to WoW 1.12 :P
10:48.24phyberhooktacular.
10:48.25nevcairielis that a good thing?
10:48.41vhaarrhaha phyber
10:48.59ckknightMi|es, it actually does more than that.
10:49.16ckknightand how does it encrypt the hooks?
10:49.19ckknightwhat do you mean by that?
10:49.25cncfanaticsits a joke ckknight ...
10:49.32ckknight...
10:49.33ckknightokay
10:49.43ckknightsecure hooks in trunk act similar to how they will in WoW 2.0
10:49.54ckknightso you ready yourself for the API
10:50.38cncfanaticsi'm already using SecureHook in an unhealthy amount in fb2 :p
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10:51.45Mi|esmm?
10:52.05ckknightunhealthy?
10:52.21nevcairielas in your func gets called and you dont need to call the orig func
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10:54.17CIA-17ClosetGnome:
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11:00.00CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15816 10Interview/ (Interview.lua Interview.toc Util/Cooldown.lua): Interview: Added dewdrop menu and fubar mixin to make life easier for now. The coodown module doesnt work yet.
11:00.35Mi|esAnyone here played with the new spell events and UnitCastingInfo?
11:00.44ckknightcncfanatics, huge loops make baby Jesus cry
11:01.05cncfanaticsI know :)
11:01.21cncfanaticsyes Miles, I use them for my addon in TBC
11:01.27Mi|esI'm thinking of creating a lib just to track those events... The startTime / endTime are evil
11:01.37cncfanaticsthat'd be nice :o
11:01.59Mi|esIf you get hit, instead of changing the endTime to set the new duration, WoW reports a new startTime
11:02.25cncfanaticsehhh, thats ...
11:02.35Mi|esand while channeling + get hit, you began casting earlier Oo
11:02.38cncfanaticsoh, and while I think about it, does anyone know if registering & unregistering events takes a lot of time/mem ?
11:03.02cncfanaticsI tend to register & unregister events only when I need em
11:03.31Mi|esso mEnemyCastbar has some funky code in it to sort that kind of stuff out, keep track of real cast start, but that kind of logic doesn't belong in a UI mod
11:03.42sylvanaarim assuming you are working on the >1 sec timescale
11:04.17vhaarrMi|es: why isn't mEnemyCastBar in the svn?
11:04.54Mi|esit's a mess :P
11:04.59vhaarr^^
11:05.08sylvanaarput It in a branch
11:05.30Mi|esreally, it is. I managed to break channeling completely yesterday, and can't find where the heck I went wrong
11:06.20Mi|esI'll keep it on svn.digibites.net for the moment, it's kinda wrong to spam wowace svn with commits
11:07.14cncfanaticsCIA prevents spam pretty well
11:07.45cncfanaticsI rarely saw it rly spam
11:07.45ckknightand woot, my db merging works awesomely
11:07.49sylvanaarcommit spam is nice when noones talking
11:07.55Mi|esdb merging?
11:07.59cncfanaticsckknight, explain ?
11:08.31ckknightcncfanatics, AceDB has a defaults system that uses a merging system that works very nicely
11:08.39ckknightand it works for Cartographer_MapUnhider
11:09.10ckknightso I can open my savedvariables, copy the data and put it into the actual addon
11:09.11ckknightno problems
11:09.18cncfanaticshmmm, how exactly does it work ? (or link to docs maybe)
11:09.26vhaarrckknight: A friend of mine noted that he was unable to Copy from the Default profile with AceDB.
11:09.37ckknightyea, I know.
11:09.49Mi|esI still haven't figured out how to copy profiles :P
11:10.01ckknightI don't copy profiles, so I have no great inclination to fix that.
11:10.10vhaarrthen maybe it should be removed
11:10.32IndustrialI dont use profiles :S
11:10.38vhaarrprofile copying I mean, if it doesn't work properly
11:10.42ckknightnah, it's worked before, people just don't know that you can't copy from one tier to another
11:10.44CIA-1703nymbia * r15817 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
11:10.45CIA-17Manufac:
11:10.45CIA-17- Added Auctioneer support.
11:10.48Mi|esmm, be careful with breaking compatibility
11:10.57nevcairielwhy cant we anyway ckk?
11:11.07ckknightwasn't designed that way
11:11.17nymbiain retrospect, gnawing my own foot off would have been more fun than that.
11:11.21ckknightcould be fixed, but refer to my previous statement abou the not caring
11:11.26Industrialnymbia: lol
11:11.42vhaarr--run away screaming :D
11:11.50Industrial:p
11:12.00nymbiaif anyone says there's a newer version than that
11:12.08nymbiai'll.. do.. something...
11:12.10Industrialnymbia: will you ever have a go at your unitframes with Ace2?>
11:12.30Industrialnymbia: author hangs around in #wowi-lounge
11:12.54nymbiaprobably not, aguf does a great job with that
11:13.13Industrialkay
11:13.32[Wobin]arr
11:13.36[Wobin]hurry up Blizzard
11:13.39[Wobin]I want my key =P
11:13.56Industrial[Wobin]: werd
11:14.22nymbiawell, either this morning or next monday/tuesday
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11:15.36sylvanaarshould enable profiles for sharing over the addon channel, that could be useful
11:16.31IndustrialAnyone have the "I made you a cookie but I eated it" url?
11:16.38ckknightIndustrial, that's a good one
11:16.44[Wobin]hm
11:16.54[Wobin]it was the cat one I posted last night or so
11:16.57Industrialyah I wanna send it to some ppl
11:17.01Industrial[Wobin]: that one
11:17.08CIA-1703ckknight * r15818 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.toc Libs/ Modules/MapUnhider.lua):
11:17.08CIA-17Cartographer - added MapUnhider
11:17.08CIA-17- ripped off of Unexplorer and MozzFullWorldMap, but with many CPU and memory optimizations.
11:17.17ckknight^--- please test.
11:17.45nymbiaoh you added it as a part of cartographer?
11:17.48nymbianeato
11:18.02nymbiai'll test in a minute
11:18.17Industrialwhats cartographer?
11:18.21ckknightCartographer is a modular map thingy
11:18.32ckknightlike Prat is for chat, Cartographer is for the world map
11:19.00nymbianice
11:19.01Industrialk
11:19.10sylvanaarwhat does it do?
11:19.31ckknightcurrent modules are AlphaScale and MapUnhider
11:19.39ckknightcrappy names, but I'm not very creative in that department
11:19.51ckknighteither way, it's extremely efficient.
11:19.57Industrialwewt
11:20.08ckknightsylvanaar, AlphaScale allows you to change the Transparency and Scale of the WorldMap
11:20.16ckknightMapUnhider shows unexplored areas.
11:20.33Industrialckknight: An idea for that module:
11:20.41ckknightk...
11:20.43Industrialnot scaling down the blips
11:20.47Industrialthe icons for players etc
11:20.50ckknightoh
11:20.51ckknightum
11:20.54ckknightcan't help you there.
11:20.58[Wobin]http://www.knitemare.org/cats/
11:21.05Industrialbecause like with the battle map they will still be viewable if you make it smaller
11:21.05ckknightit scales the whole thing
11:21.08Industrial:P
11:21.20ckknightmeh, if someone wants to add that, they can go ahead
11:21.27Industrial=)
11:21.39vhaarrckknight: You know what would rock? A Cartographer module to show dots on your map for Tourist paths :P
11:21.49IndustrialTourist?
11:21.56ckknightnah, that's too complicated, vhaarr
11:21.58vhaarrTouristLib.
11:22.02Industrial= ?
11:22.03Industrial:D
11:22.03vhaarrckknight: Right, it would still rock.
11:22.07ckknightIndustrial, Tourist is a library with shitloads of information.
11:22.14Industrialhah
11:22.18ckknightvhaarr, but near-impossible
11:22.20Industrialok
11:22.29nymbiack: working perfectly :D
11:22.38ckknightI'm thinking I'll steal LocationFu's map stuff and put it into Cartographer, though.
11:22.52ckknightoh, I also need to make a notes module.
11:22.57ckknightnymbia, hoorah
11:24.08phyberI'm going to enjoy replacing MetaMap.
11:24.10vhaarrckknight: Notes should be transferable to other Cartographer users.
11:24.12vhaarr:)
11:24.19ckknightvhaarr, well, duh.
11:24.20ckknighthehe.
11:24.27ckknightI wouldn't know how that would work, though.
11:24.32ckknightwith AceComm, clearly
11:24.36ckknightbut I don't know a good UI way to do that
11:25.05[Wobin]have them type in a name
11:25.11sylvanaarright click -> send to
11:25.13vhaarr"Send to player" and give them a edit box with a name
11:25.16phyberright click the note and you can select someone
11:25.17ckknighthrm
11:25.27nymbiayeah, it'd be unweildy to try to make a list of players to send to
11:25.28ckknightwould there be an acceptance deal or just auto-accept?
11:25.28nymbiabut
11:25.34vhaarrckknight: deal
11:25.45ckknightfair enough
11:25.51phyberckknight: maybe configurable?  like, auto accept from guildies, but ask for other people.
11:25.51nymbiaarent addon messages limited to raid or party or guild?
11:25.57[Wobin]You could set your Cartographer to allow accept requests
11:26.02ckknightnymbia, not in my book.
11:26.04ckknight;-)
11:26.09[Wobin]but default would be to ignore them
11:26.17nymbiai'll take your word for it ck :)
11:26.22sylvanaarbliz's are
11:26.29ckknightnymbia, I wrote AceComm-2.0 which allows a whole bunch of shiny stuff
11:26.30[Wobin]Sort of setting your addon to 'synching mode' or somehting similar
11:26.42nymbianeat
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11:28.21ckknighthttp://www.knitemare.org/cats/evil-kitty.jpg <-- hehe
11:29.01phyberThat kitten is larger (but not oranger) than normal.
11:29.28CIA-1703nymbia * r15819 10Manufac/Manufac.toc:
11:29.28CIA-17Manufac:
11:29.28CIA-17- Added Auctioneer to OptDeps. /slap self.
11:30.14ckknightphyber, dollhouse
11:32.02CIA-1703akx 07Nevcairiel * r15820 10DreamChat/DreamChat/ (Core.lua DreamChat_FrameClass.lua Messaging.lua):
11:32.02CIA-17DreamChat
11:32.03CIA-17- More documentation done
11:32.03CIA-17- Added message type categorization
11:32.18AKXThat's a good boy.
11:32.18cncfanaticsNevariel, is dreamchat actualy working already ?
11:32.25phyberreally?  damn.  there goes my masterplan to breed a superior race of larger (but remember, not oranger) kittens for world domination :(
11:32.32AKXcncfanatics, yes, you can read messages in it already :D
11:32.32ckknight~seen Amadeo
11:32.43purlamadeo <n=amadeo@c-69-244-72-196.hsd1.md.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 13h 7m 6s ago, saying: 'You just wait until TBC!'.
11:32.43phyberhe looks funny in that house :)
11:32.46vhaarrhaha that cat
11:32.47MikmaAKX: need option to change fontsize xD
11:32.49vhaarrlooks like mr. burns :D
11:32.52AKXI know Mikma...
11:32.55vhaarr"Eeeexcellent.."
11:33.00sylvanaarAceComm really handy - the serialization works so nicely
11:33.45ckknight:-)
11:35.35sylvanaarmade the sw stats configuration settings xfer tool a breeze
11:35.47CIA-1703ckknight * r15821 10Cartographer/Modules/AlphaScale.lua: Cartographer - removed needless AceConsole-2.0 dependency from AlphaScale
11:37.27CIA-1703phyber * r15822 10FuBar_BagFu/ (BagFu.lua BagFuLocale-enUS.lua):
11:37.27CIA-17FuBar_BagFu:
11:37.27CIA-17- Added an option to hide the total slot count.
11:37.28CIA-17- This update adds two new strings to the localisation:
11:37.28CIA-17-- Bag Total
11:37.30CIA-17-- Show total amount of space in bags
11:41.11nymbianaptime, i think.  night guys
11:41.22phyberg'night.
11:41.46cncfanaticsnn
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11:45.01KalamadiWhat's a good graphical file manager for linux?
11:45.51cncfanaticsnautilus !
11:45.58KalamadiNautilus makes me bleed.
11:46.14ckknightbash, Kalamadi
11:46.42Kalamadi-_-
11:46.43cncfanaticsdash, bash, shell, nautilus
11:48.08cncfanatics(why is my download stuck at 99% with the blizz dl'er damnit, and it seems lots of ppl are at 99 too ...)
11:48.24KalamadiBlizzard's holding the last 1% hostage
11:48.28cncfanaticsseems :/
11:48.52KalamadiI have 20 megs left on a 1.48gig download and it's coming in a 200 B/s
11:48.58Angeristhere is a forum post with another link to download it
11:49.08Angerisif you mean the 355mbbeta patch
11:49.08cncfanaticslink me ?
11:49.10cncfanaticsyea
11:49.11Kalamadis/ a 2/ at 2/
11:49.35cncfanaticsit sucks to get an alternate link when u got 99% dl'd already tho :/
11:49.44cncfanaticsAngeris, can u link me please ?
11:50.19CIA-1703rabbit * r15823 10ErrorMonster/ (ErrorMonster-enUS.lua ErrorMonster.lua): ErrorMonster: Can now be configured to aggro or ignore errors, system messages and information messages (quest notifications, etc).
11:50.30Angerishttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=78737897&sid=1
11:50.34Angerissomwhere in here
11:52.57vhaarrphyber: |self:SetText(string.format("|cff%s%s|r", color, takenSlots))| should be "%s%d" ?
11:52.59cncfanaticsAngeris, the site is offline that it was on :(
11:53.19KalamadiArgh. Is there a way to make nautilus NOT spawn a window whenever you change directories? It's infuriating.
11:53.25Angerisit is? it was working yesterday cause i linked it to some1 else
11:53.30phybervhaarr: I was just giving you something to do.  yeah >_<
11:53.32phyberone moment...
11:53.38vhaarrKalamadi: of course there is
11:53.45vhaarrKalamadi: You can enable the old explorer mode somehow.
11:53.46vhaarrphyber: :P
11:54.06cncfanaticsbtw Angeris, will I have to dl the full patch again ?
11:54.14cncfanaticsor can I just resume from what I got ?
11:54.28KalamadiHuh.
11:54.35KalamadiI got it to go into "browser" mode, but I don't know how :x
11:55.31Angerisi dont think you can resume
11:55.33CIA-1703phyber * r15824 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFu.lua:
11:55.33CIA-17FuBar_BagFu:
11:55.33CIA-17- Foolish Typo. Your friends shall join you soon enough\!
11:55.45phybers/Foolish/Worthless/ but whatever ;)
11:56.32Kalamadivhaarr: nautilus --browser
11:56.54vhaarrright
11:57.12vhaarrah, worthless, gah
11:57.17vhaarroh well, going with the trend
11:57.50CIA-1703rabbit * r15825 10BigWigs/Plugins/ (Colors.lua Messages.lua): BigWigs: Foolish ZIP script. Your friends shall join you soon enough!
11:57.57phyber:D
11:58.01vhaarr:P
11:58.27phyberI like how bash complains when I don't escape my !, but when I do it includes the \ in the commit message.
11:58.40vhaarrhaha indeed
11:58.46KalamadiWe're going to have a party in hell, yeah! I'll bring a keg!
12:01.56CIA-1703rabbit * r15826 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (Heigan.lua Thaddius.lua): BigWigs: frFR fixes for Heigan and Thaddius.
12:02.09cncfanaticslala, this sucks
12:02.23Kalamadi?
12:04.06CIA-1703rabbit * r15827 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Don't show the keybinding menu if there are no sets.
12:04.14Industrialckknight: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2897.0
12:04.24cncfanaticsmy dl is stuck at 99%
12:04.32Industrialpooned
12:04.36Mikmapoo!
12:04.46MikmaIndustrial: wassup=
12:04.48cncfanaticsactualy, over 100 dl's are stuck at 99% according to my list
12:04.55Industrialhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5605&jump=15905#cmnt15905
12:05.01IndustrialMikma: tuplad
12:05.03Industrial:@\
12:05.10Industrialhe needs to die
12:05.11Industrialtwice
12:05.13nevcairielcncfanatics: enGB beta patch?
12:05.14Industrialand elave me alone
12:05.15Industrial:P
12:05.17MikmaIndustrial: lol oh ffs
12:05.40cncfanaticsyes nevcairiel
12:05.44vhaarrrofl id
12:05.58cncfanaticsgot any solution ? its getting anoying
12:06.04nevcairielthe torrent seems to be broken
12:06.09MikmaIndustrial: tuplad is just angry
12:06.11Mikma~tuplad
12:06.17purlhttp://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg
12:06.17Industrialyah
12:06.17nevcairielsomething blizzard messed up
12:06.20Industrialoh ima post that
12:06.33Mi|es03rabbit * r15826 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (Heigan.lua Thaddius.lua): BigWigs: frFR fixes for Heigan and Thaddius.01
12:06.33Mi|eswhat kind of fixes?
12:06.33Mikmahehe
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12:07.03Mi|esSometimes, the timer is off at Thaddius, that's for sure
12:07.20KalamadiIndustrial: Well, if the file you're downloading is identical as the torrent, you could replace the torrenting file and restart the client, then begin to seed the last 1%
12:07.46cncfanaticsanyone has the full file and can seed it for now ?
12:07.57Mikmahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDia3CFdfg
12:07.57cncfanaticsblizzard's http seed refuses to upload anything at all indeed
12:08.09nevcairieli tried seeding the full file, but its not working
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12:08.13Industrialhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5605&jump=15905#cmnt15905
12:08.14nevcairielsomehow it ignores the missing parts
12:08.27nevcairielbut if you check your pm you could download the full file ;)
12:08.52cncfanaticsis that the exact same file as the one from the torrent ?
12:09.02cncfanaticsi'll use some wget tricks if so
12:09.24nevcairielits supposed to be, but still my torrent tool didnt think so
12:09.25nevcairielso no idea
12:09.34cncfanaticsit ain't
12:09.35nevcairielit patched without error to 6052 tho
12:09.42cncfanaticsit ain't the same
12:09.44KalamadiLawl. I just pegged my brother in the head with a quarted in order to wake him up.
12:09.45cncfanaticsthere's some diff at 3%
12:09.53CIA-1703phyber * r15828 10IDCard/IDCard.lua:
12:09.53CIA-17IDCard:
12:09.53CIA-17- Made it also work with 2.0.0 (hopefully).
12:09.56cncfanaticseither thats where there are 2 megs missing, either it ain't the same file
12:10.06Kalamadis/quarted/quarter/
12:10.10KalamadiTypeomonster FTL
12:10.10cncfanaticsbtw, thanks a lot nev :)
12:10.12nevcairieli dunno, as i said, the patch worked
12:10.23nevcairieli blame it on the torrent
12:10.26cncfanatics(:o fast server, 400 kb/s)
12:10.32cncfanaticsI blame it on the blizzard seed
12:10.38cncfanaticsit ain't uploading anything, probably down
12:10.46cncfanaticsand its the only one with the 1% left, so :(
12:10.49IndustrialKalamadi: LOL
12:11.24cncfanaticsi'm gonna try & seed it too when i'm done
12:12.21nevcairieli tried that, didnt work, it says that exactly those parts are missing as well
12:12.22nevcairiel:D
12:12.33cncfanaticsmeh
12:12.49cncfanaticsanyway nevcairiel, u shld post that link on wow forums if u got the bandwith
12:12.54nevcairieli dont
12:12.55cncfanaticswill help lots of other ppl as well
12:12.56nevcairiel:)
12:12.58cncfanaticsoh :)
12:13.02Kalamadi...hey
12:13.08KalamadiHow about you make another torrent? >_>
12:13.21KalamadiI don't mind dedicating some of my bandwidth to this noble cause
12:13.47nevcairieli wouldnt have any idea howto do that
12:13.48cncfanaticshmm, same here, i'd superseed it
12:13.52nevcairiel:)
12:13.54cncfanaticsI do :)
12:14.10cncfanaticswill make one when i'm done dl'ing, and upload it to my webhost
12:14.13nevcairielcount my server in, i should have the torrent tool on there somewhere, and i can limi the bw then
12:14.13KalamadiLet me get that link so I can seed when you people get a torrent made
12:14.27cncfanaticsgive me 20 minutes for  the patch dl to finish
12:14.33cncfanatics(hail nev and his fast server)
12:14.35KalamadiEr...linky?
12:14.44KalamadiI'll be patient and wait for cnc
12:15.12nevcairieli only have the enGB patch tho
12:15.19cncfanaticshmmm, I have no tracker tho
12:15.21nevcairieldunno if the enUS is broken
12:15.22cncfanaticsanyone has a tracker ?
12:15.36KalamadiI could do a crash course and potentially have one up in some time
12:15.46cncfanaticsdon't bother
12:15.50Kalamadi=(
12:15.53cncfanaticsi'll install a tracker pkg on my debian
12:16.00nevcairieldistributed trackign ftw
12:16.23Kalamadicncfanatics: I wanted to emerge a tracker on my gentoo
12:17.01cncfanaticsapache installed
12:17.06cncfanaticslibtracker installed
12:17.33cncfanaticsport 80 opened :)
12:17.39KalamadiI wish they had progress bars on compiles. Openoffice has been compiling for a long time now and I don't know when it'll end ;_;
12:17.56nevcairielso if anyone wants to superseed the enGB BC patch as well, pm me and you get the download link
12:18.17KalamadiEven though I can't use it, I'm up for it.
12:18.51nevcairielisnt enGB basicly the same as enUS ?
12:19.07Kalamadi*shrug* Doesn't make me in the beta if it is.
12:19.33cncfanaticsit isn't nev
12:19.39cncfanaticsdiff file names
12:19.42cncfanaticsso u can't use it :/
12:20.09KalamadiMake a .diff patch! XD
12:20.13nevcairielheh.
12:20.36MikmaFetching external item into '!!!Libs/Ace2'
12:20.36Mikmasvn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/15828'
12:20.38Mikmaheh
12:21.15cncfanaticsdo u rly think all nubs can use diffs & patches that'll dl it ? :p
12:21.32KalamadiI don't think a .diff would do much good on an archive like that
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12:22.22packetlssanyonw know if there are different beta keys for US/EU?
12:22.30KalamadiHighly likely
12:22.39Mikmapurl: message to mikk: the textures you made for DreamChat (Pushed) don't work and are shown as green blocks :(
12:22.59[Wobin]don't you mean botmail?
12:23.00KalamadiSend him some spankings, too. He'll love that.
12:23.19Mikma[Wobin]: <1422> [freenode] <purl> OK, mikma, I'll let mikk know.
12:23.27[Wobin]ah cool =)
12:23.32[Wobin]purl is so smrt!
12:23.38Mikmaindeed :D
12:23.38Kalamadi~love purl
12:23.40purlIf you love purl so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
12:23.57Mikmapimp
12:24.55KalamadiI have the feeling that I'm going to bed, wake up, and openoffice will still be compiling
12:25.10KalamadiGoing to go to bed, rather.
12:25.19cncfanaticswaiiitttt
12:25.23cncfanaticsu got to superseed !
12:25.25hastepacketlss: there are
12:25.38hastepacketlss: you can only upgrade EU accounts with EU keys, and US account with US keys
12:26.22phyberhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5148-AceSalvation.html
12:26.32phyberI like that tux picture :p
12:26.51cncfanaticsbah, I cant seem to get this tracker working
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12:27.51Kalamadiphyber: I bet he wields a kickass axe, too.
12:30.22hastewait
12:30.27hastesomeone actually made a ace1 add on?
12:30.31packetlsshaste: thx for the answer
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12:32.20hasteabbat-w: huh :o ?
12:32.26JoshBork1good night Kalamadi
12:32.37abbat-w41 yard targeting, camera distance...
12:32.43abbat-wit's damn'd nice ;)
12:33.34cncfanaticsbah, my tracker ain't working
12:33.38cncfanaticscan anyone set one up ?
12:33.48JoshBork1tracker for what?
12:34.03krkasomeone set up us the tracker
12:34.31nevcairieltorrent tracker
12:34.47nevcairielsince the enGB BC downloader is broken, we wanted to torrent it
12:34.48MikmaYAY my microwaveowen will lvlup soon
12:35.26Gngskpre grats?
12:35.47JoshBork1ah
12:35.57hasteMy microwave got a level last week
12:36.30KalamadiMine gets mucho EXP for the repeatable quest "feed Kalamadi popcorn."
12:36.33MikmaDING! GZ!
12:36.49hasteI never make popcorn
12:36.55phyberheh, 9/10 of the top 10 addons on WoWI are Ace addons :)
12:37.01hastehehe
12:37.25JoshBork1where can i download the torrent for enGB?
12:37.37phyberI have the enGB client downloaded on this PC.
12:37.40abbat-wbtw, anyone has list of real buff names?
12:37.48phyberif someone has a server where they want to let people download it from, I'll upload it.
12:38.00nevcairielthe client downloader works fine
12:38.03nevcairielonly the patch is broken
12:38.07abbat-wi.e. if i buff self with AI, buff real name not be 'arcane intellect'
12:38.19abbat-wany way to identify real names?
12:38.35cncfanaticsnevcairiel
12:38.41abbat-wwant to play with power auras mod ;)
12:38.41cncfanaticswhen I run ur file I get:
12:38.53cncfanaticswine: could not load L"C:\\Program Files\\Burning Crusade Closed Beta\\WoW-2.0.0-enGB-patch.exe": Bad EXE format for
12:38.59nevcairieloO
12:39.04nevcairielit worked for .. dunno
12:39.07KalamadiI still have another 15 minutes
12:39.12nevcairieli think kirkburn run it
12:39.17KalamadiLet me test it on my native windows system
12:39.22cncfanatics(ups nvm, ran the wrong one , bleh)
12:39.26nevcairiellol
12:39.28Kalamadi...
12:39.28cncfanaticsran the incomplete one from blizz
12:39.37cncfanaticsurs worksd
12:39.39Kalamadi:O
12:39.54hastecncfanatics: still having problems?
12:40.28cncfanaticsno but hundreds of ppl are cuzz blizz did shit
12:40.41Kalamadi~spank Blizzard
12:40.46purlACTION bends Blizzard over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on Blizzard's pasty white buttocks.
12:41.39cncfanaticsjob-working-directory: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
12:41.50cncfanaticswtf, get that when I run apache or any other cmd
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12:43.14cncfanaticsgonna reboot after patch is dl'd
12:43.17cncfanaticsinstalled*
12:43.24phyberhmm.  got to laugh at people moaning about Warlock DoTs in the beta forum.  "omg, nerf!  the dots persist after the warlock dies"
12:43.41phyberno shit?  if I set fire to you and then i died, why would the fire go out?
12:43.42cncfanaticseh, they always did
12:43.49phyberautomatic sprinklers on warlock death?
12:43.55krkabecause it's magical fire?
12:44.15nevcairielthe magical fire is used to set you on fire, but once you burn .. well you burn :)
12:44.46cncfanaticsreboot time
12:44.49krkadont apply real world logic to games, it fails
12:44.53phybercncfanatics: yeah, they always did.  but some idiot started a cheese+wine thread about it.
12:45.00KalamadiIt's like all the times when I get killed right after I toss my Hammer of Wrath
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12:58.06`-FISKER_QI wonder what'll happen in the crossover
12:58.27`-FISKER_QIf i accumulate a lot of honor the week before patch, i wonder if it'll be adjusted correctly after maintanence :P
12:58.29cncfanaticseveryone will lose his god damn rank forever and start from scratch
12:58.51KalamadiYeah, that pisses me off
12:59.07KalamadiI would be able to hit Marshal or Field Marshal just before the patch hits
12:59.18yacoobwhat irony
12:59.23snurreyou can set your max rank to be shown on your name tag :P
12:59.39Kalamadi"Commander Kalamadi" ~<3
12:59.50yacoobputting high priority on four files in Azureus = not even a byte of those four files downloaded :)
12:59.51KalamadiIt's like Commander Keen.
12:59.58snurrejust pvp harder then :p
13:00.04Silviu-I stopped at Commander too :)
13:00.14nevcairielI only was knight-lieutenant :(
13:00.15KalamadiTell me you people know Commander Keen =(
13:00.18snurreHigh Warlord Capnaggro.. meh, fuck that
13:00.21snurreill go without title
13:00.21nevcairieli do Kalamadi
13:00.36AzurewrathKalamadi: There are people who don't know Commander Keen?
13:01.00Mikmahaste: you know what oCB needs?
13:01.07hasteno?
13:01.13snurrea cup holder
13:01.27Mikmahaste: ability to display the freaking bar without casting for easy placement
13:01.55phyberMikma: agreed.  someone in my guild was asking about that yesterday too.
13:01.55Azurewrathjust do some 30sec crafting cast? :)
13:02.21Mikmano that won't do
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13:02.57hasteMikma: it will come, as an anchor
13:03.13hasteand I'm going to add some new functions to it also
13:03.15Mikmahaste: cool. do it now.
13:03.15hastefor placement
13:03.21hastelike, only X axis movement
13:03.22hasteand only Y
13:03.26hastecentering
13:03.29Mikma"use original castbar location [X]"
13:03.44hasteshould be possible
13:03.52Mikmahaste: kergoth made a lag-display for oCB :D
13:03.55hasteI know
13:03.58Mikmait's freaking cool
13:04.17abbat-woh
13:04.18Mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5637-The_Balance_-_Raid_Mod.html
13:04.21abbat-wwhere??
13:04.41Mikmaabbat-w: svn
13:04.41Azurewrathabbat-w: trunk/kLagmeter or something
13:05.18Mikmahttp://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LagOmat-oCB/
13:05.34abbat-wAuthorization Required
13:05.38KalamadiMikma: Grid will blow that addon out of the water and onto a nearby freeway
13:05.41abbat-wit's not release?
13:05.58Mikmawell try replacing the dev with svn
13:06.04MikmaKalamadi: i know
13:06.11abbat-wAh, nice. :-* Mikma ;)
13:06.11phyberhey
13:06.28KalamadiHave you been allowed to fiddle with it yet?
13:06.28phyberanyone got a Transcript from the Anub'Rekhan fight?
13:06.38phyberI need to some some moron tank that there really is a way to show when he's going to cast Locust Swarn
13:06.41abbat-wkLagmeter  <DIR> ýëåìåíòîâ: 5 03.11.06 Addon to display Lag in oCB (Kergoth (inspired by LagOmat))  
13:06.42abbat-wLagOmat-oCB  <DIR> ýëåìåíòîâ: 4 02.11.06 Addon to display Lag in oCB (Silviu (modified by Kergoth))  
13:06.43phybers/Swarn/Swarm/
13:06.44evlWhy doesn't BW alert on Chromaggus' initial breaths?
13:06.47evlVendetta does it!
13:06.48yacoobwhat is a lag-display?
13:07.18abbat-wthey display you currect lag on ocb
13:07.48abbat-wYou can start cast only after event be fired (don't know real name of event)
13:08.24KalamadiMy microwave just dinged
13:08.29KalamadiIts kernels turned into food
13:08.31snurregrats
13:08.42MikmaKalamadi: you copycat! :(
13:08.53KalamadiWhat? I mean it.
13:08.54Azurewrathbless Microwave food :)
13:08.55abbat-wThis mod do some probs and display time which is lag (time between you actual end of cast and time then event fired)
13:09.00KalamadiI'll take a picture to prove it.
13:09.07Mikma<1434> <Mikma> YAY my microwaveowen will lvlup soon
13:09.10Mikma<1436> <Mikma> DING! GZ!
13:09.18Mikma<1508> <Kalamadi> My microwave just dinged
13:09.22KalamadiAnd?
13:09.22Mikmacopycat ;)
13:09.26abbat-wBtw
13:09.36KalamadiI was copying you, like. A minute after your initial exclaimation
13:09.46MikmaKalamadi: /kiss
13:09.52Kalamadi:O
13:09.55abbat-wSomeone can now modify LagOmat or kLafmeter with fastcast functionality ;)
13:09.58KalamadiMikma: /love
13:10.13abbat-wAdaptive lag remover ;)
13:10.47Mikmaabbat-w: buy an internet!
13:10.58abbat-wergh
13:11.08abbat-wMikma, i have 512kbit connectivity ;)
13:11.19Mikmathere we go
13:11.28Mikmaupgrade it!
13:11.41Azurewrath512kbit is way enough for wow+teamspeak :)
13:11.44abbat-wAnd it's difference between provider lag and wow-server lag
13:12.11abbat-wfastcast allow you to start cast before event about succesfull spellcast fired
13:12.44vhaarrevl: FINE! Poke me about it around 22:30 GMT+1, and I'll fix it.
13:13.06vhaarr^^
13:13.11evlvhaarr: I'll be here with a BIG ASS finger
13:13.12abbat-wIf you play caster you can see this if you cast something like frostbolt and start running (for example) on 0.1-0.2 sec before castbar filled
13:13.19vhaarrLooking forward to it!
13:13.23vhaarrFor now, I'm gone.
13:13.27evlYeah, you better!
13:13.33abbat-wAnd it's be sucesfull spellcast. Depends on lag (server or provider)
13:13.40evlCya! Wouldn't wanna be ya (at 23:30 GMT+1)
13:13.45vhaarr22:30
13:13.52evlwell, i'm DST
13:13.55evlFOOL
13:13.56KalamadiMommy and daddy are fighting again =(
13:13.59vhaarr:(
13:14.04evlhehe ;D
13:16.13Azurewrathgaah.. whatever svn mirror i just got spits out no such revision all the time.. ~20 minutes after the last commit..
13:18.13Kalamadi'night
13:19.00cncfanaticsnn Kala
13:19.31hasteurgh
13:19.37hastecar paint sucks
13:19.55Mikmaooh ooh
13:19.57Mikmai'm your fan
13:20.02Mikma"OH HASTE! DO ME!"
13:20.15hastehaha
13:20.27Azurewrathlawl :)
13:20.38Azurewrathyou forgot that you want babies and stuff from him
13:21.02Mikmaand divorse-money
13:22.44nevcairieldid they raise the levelcap in beta yet?
13:22.59cncfanaticsstill 67 I think
13:23.02Azurewrathstill 67 afaik
13:23.07cncfanaticsi'm still 60 tho :p i code too much
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13:28.48Mi|es<PROTECTED>
13:29.33pb_ee1. /hug
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13:30.11JoshBorkesylvanaar: yes.  i've seen that mod before.  CombatGraph was based off the original Gram and I got my idea from CombatGraph
13:30.22Mi|es14 more days of inactivity and i can /msg nickserv drop miles
13:30.24JoshBorkebtw, morning
13:30.29Mi|es<PROTECTED>
13:31.40JoshBorkeMi|es: morning.  when ya gonna update MCL?
13:31.59Mi|eshmm. I can throw a version online, I guess
13:32.17[Liquidor]Complicated to make a profiling addon?
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13:33.27Mi|esthis readme.txt is dated 24/02/06 lol
13:34.15JoshBorke[Liquidor]: what are you trying to profile?
13:34.36Mi|eshttp://elektron.its.tudelft.nl/~chkwok30/oekaboe/MCL.zip <-- zip of the version in my Interface\Addons
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13:36.02[Liquidor]JoshBorke, I'd like to make a profiler of the characters within my guild (the members' characters) and for that I need an addon created to scan 'em :)
13:36.16[Liquidor]Nothing big really. Just the equipment and the professions
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13:36.32JoshBorkeah.  that kind.  it's not that difficult.  just like at some of the ones that have been released
13:36.59Mi|esprofessions is a no-go
13:37.20Mikmaseeing that zip makes me want to put my combatlog back on screen
13:37.32[Liquidor]is a what?
13:37.42Mi|esyou can't query someone's profession
13:37.58Mi|esso you have to make all members install it, and sync it on a channel. that's complicated
13:37.59[Liquidor]Erh?
13:38.12JoshBorkeMi|es: he wants something that ust scans the professions locally
13:38.17[Liquidor]That's what I'm talking about :S not talking about inspecing
13:38.20[Liquidor]inspecting*
13:38.49Mi|esheh, okay
13:38.51[Liquidor]All I wanted to know is if it's a big project to create a saved variable with data of your character
13:38.53Mikmahokay!
13:39.01[Liquidor]when it comes to worn equipment and professions
13:40.04Mi|esprofessions = API functions and save it.
13:40.04Mi|esitems/equip = take a look at possessions, I think it's SV is quite easy to parse
13:42.38[Liquidor]okay thanks
13:42.52[Liquidor]next part is just to find out how to parse it into php
13:43.48phyberwrite a perl script which reads it and dumps it into a database, which your PHP then goes and pulls info out of.
13:44.05phyberor make your PHP parse it and put it into the DB
13:44.27[Liquidor]using 2nd
13:44.38[Liquidor]just need to find out the syntac
13:44.40[Liquidor]syntax*
13:45.04Mi|eswrite a lua script to do that, SV's are valid lua
13:45.30hasteThere are lots of Lua parsers in PHP
13:45.35add\\LeialynXuerian?
13:45.43Mi|eshttp://www.keplerproject.org/ ftw
13:46.14hastethat would probably be the best solution
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13:50.59haarmIs it allowed to have a comma delimited list of categories for X-Category, if your mod falls into more than one category?
13:51.12haarmor do I have to choose one :)
13:52.15Mi|eswtf. They managed to package lua 5.0, apache handler, cgi, 8 SQL handlers, $bignum libs and a standalone webserver in a 750kb zip? oO
13:53.06Mi|esI'm totally dropping php and use lua as the main web dev language. AceXHTML-2.0 anyone? :P
13:53.24nevcairiellol
13:53.27JoshBorkelol Mi|es
13:53.50haarmwouldn't you then need AceCSS-2.0 for your presentation? :p
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13:54.17[Liquidor]lol
13:54.47CIA-1703pb_ee1 * r15832 10ChatLog/ (. ChatLog.lua ChatLog.toc):
13:54.47CIA-17ChatLog: Now working with AceDB-2.0.
13:54.48CIA-17- Updated externals.
13:54.48CIA-17- Changed the name of SavedVariables.
13:55.23Mi|es-- XML-RPC implementation for Lua.
13:55.23Mi|es-- See Copyright Notice in license.html
13:55.23Mi|es-- $Id: xmlrpc.lua,v 1.14 2005/04/09 15:22:22 tomas Exp $
13:55.23Mi|esOkay. These guys are serious
13:55.41haarmwhy not? :)
13:56.20haarmlook at the date too, they were serious about it over a year ago
13:57.19Mikmahehe
14:00.59Mi|eshmmm... cool. http://digibites.net:81/test.lp
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14:03.27haarmnot cool.. timeout :P
14:03.38[Liquidor]didn't work here
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14:04.41Mi|eslol, I guess it's default is allow on local only
14:06.06Mi|esnm
14:06.11Mi|esgg windows firewall. fixed
14:06.28Mikmaworks for me
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14:07.09Mikmatekpup has arrived
14:07.11Mikmaphear him
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14:07.37Mi|es<PROTECTED>
14:07.59[Liquidor]Psychic Scream though
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14:12.04nevcairielso, where are we at our "share the enGB patch" project?
14:13.10Mikmanevcairiel: between null and zero
14:13.38JoshBorkei heard we were supposed to be giving it back...
14:14.10Mikmalies lol
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14:16.53yacoobHeh.
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14:17.23yacoobemulate a nation: http://www.nationstates.net/
14:17.41Azurewrathnevcairiel: i could upload it to some 100mbit ftp.. but it's hanging at 99.4%
14:18.02nevcairielAzurewrath: thats why we wanted to share it
14:18.11nevcairielthe torrent is broken
14:18.15nevcairiel(the blizz one)
14:18.19Azurewrathseems the blizzard seeder is offline.. checked it with utorrent
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14:18.25Azurewraththe tracker works though
14:18.49Trillanyone wanna help a noob with a gui issue :)
14:19.04nevcairieli downloaded my patch from some ftp which was linked in the wow forums, but the file was removed now due to bandwidth :D
14:19.07JoshBorkewe can try
14:19.19nevcairielbut if i feed that into the blizz torrent, it still says something is missing
14:19.31yacoobnevcairiel, what do you mean by "share the patch"?
14:19.40TrillI have tried t he examples on wiowwiki etc, all I want to do is create a simple window that pops up on module load (i ultimately want to populate it with members of the raid who are a certain cliss)
14:19.45phyberI have the full patch here.
14:19.52phyberdownloader worked fine for me yesterday.
14:19.58nevcairielenGB ?
14:20.08phyber356M WoW-2.0.0-enGB-patch.exe
14:20.08Trillhowever everything I have tried I can never get a window to show , i have tried the different tutorials and when I try to call MyAddon_Frame:Show() etc i get errors
14:20.09nevcairieli have the full patch here now as well
14:20.20nevcairielphyber: be a good guy and seeed it on the blizz torrent ;)
14:20.24packetlssi'm having the 99.4% issue aswell
14:20.42phybernevcairiel: I can't.  work connection, but I can upload it somewhere if someone wants to let everyone leech it ;)
14:20.55yacoobah, for TBC... for current game it's http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/
14:20.59packetlssphyber: that would be awesome
14:21.32phyberI just need that <somewhere> to upload it to :)
14:21.54Trillanyone have simple examples of how to create a simple frame i can look at ?
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14:22.18JoshBorkeTrill: what errors do you get?
14:22.20Azurewrathas i said, i could provide a 100mbit ftp.. not for the public though, but ~30-40 leeches from this channel would be ok i guess
14:22.23phyberTrill: check 'Wallet' on the SVN.
14:22.33phyberthe MakeFrame() function, it's about as simple as it gets.
14:22.39phyberwell, almost.
14:22.47TrillJosh, it has something to do with something like MyAddon_Frame tried to access a global a nil value or something
14:23.00Trillit was yesterday when I did it and I have sicne removed to try and go back to basics
14:23.01JoshBorkethat is telling you that your frame doesn't exist
14:23.10Trillok
14:23.18Trilllet me ask you this then....
14:23.26arkanesTrill: Your XML was probably broken and the frame didn't load
14:23.29Trillto create a frame, i need XML doc, path in the TOC
14:23.38arkanesthere's no error messages when that happens so it can be annoying to debug
14:23.43Trilland that's it right? do I need to include the lua file in the xml or anything?
14:24.00phyberTrill: you don't need XML to create frames anymore.
14:24.03arkanesinclude both the lua file and the XML file in the TOC
14:24.26Trillright in the TOC i know, the examples I saw had like <Script file="filename.lua" /> too
14:24.33Trillso I was wondering if that was needed or not
14:24.38cncfanaticshmmm, how to reset the color set by SetVertexColor ?
14:24.40Trillin the xml that is
14:24.56arkanesyou can do that too
14:25.07phybercncfanatics: do a GetVertexColor before it and remember the old values? *shrug*
14:25.10axxois there a way to make it show '!' for quests below your level?
14:25.13phyberif a Get even exists for it.
14:25.15arkanestheres a variety of ways to do all the things you're doing
14:25.17JoshBorkeaxxo: no
14:25.19cncfanaticscan't phyber
14:25.37cncfanaticseven if I use SetVertexColor with the old values after i'm done it won't match phyber
14:25.41JoshBorkecncfanatics: you can't
14:25.51arkanesdamnit
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14:25.58arkanesI just uninstalled firefox and all my extensions
14:25.59arkanessigh
14:26.04JoshBorkeouch
14:26.08cncfanaticsbah, so if I set a color of some texture there's no way to get it back to normal ?
14:26.36cncfanatics(I guess I cld divide by the current values ? so i'd get one for sure again ?)
14:27.32arkanesprobably need to re-build the texture
14:28.36cncfanaticshmmmm
14:28.41cncfanaticswld this work:
14:28.50arkanessnazzy, uninstalling firefox doesn't remove extensions :P
14:28.53cncfanaticslocal r, g, b = self.Frame.Button.Icon:GetVertexColor(); self.Frame.Button.Icon:SetVertexColor(1 / r, 1 / g, 1 / b);
14:28.56arkanesit probably should, but yay for me
14:28.57haarmwould it help if i seeded that patch for a bit ?
14:29.33JoshBorkecncfanatics: why wouldn't saving and setting the color work?
14:29.50cncfanaticsthats not how to function works
14:30.04cncfanaticsif u SetVertexColor  then the game will multiply the values u give with the current values
14:30.26cncfanaticsso if my red is already set to 0.5 and I set it to 0.5 again then i'll end up with 0.25
14:30.48Loppzorcncfanatics:Then set them to 1,1,1 first and then the saved values
14:31.08cncfanaticsif I set a button that currently has 0.5 to 1 i'll end up with 0.5 ...
14:31.12cncfanatics(0.5 * 1 = 0.5)
14:31.30nevcairieldoes anyone have a link to the enGB patch *downloader* ? i lost mine, and already patched it :D
14:31.49cncfanaticsI can put it on the net, sec
14:32.06JoshBorkecncfanatics: but yes, what you suggested should work but seems very hackish
14:32.24phybernevcairiel: think I've got that here too.
14:32.29phyberI'll upload it after the patch.
14:32.34nevcairielokies
14:32.45phyberWoW-2.0.0-enGB-patch-downloader.exe
14:32.47phyberthere.
14:32.52phyberslightly renamed
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15:05.09Silviu-Take a look at Snafu code or ora2 cooldowns would help ;)
15:05.16Trillok i will stop my dreams of my addon
15:05.17Trillhahahaha
15:05.22Trilldream killers
15:05.24Trill:)
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15:05.25IndustrialAnyone ever made a square minimap?
15:05.34Trillomg reinvent the wheel
15:05.37TrillSqueenix
15:05.40Silviu-No ind .. only 2 things ;)
15:05.40Industrialshh
15:05.41Mi|esnope. used one, but it bugs. wtb new square minimap
15:05.42Trillhehe
15:05.48Silviu-2 persons
15:05.49Silviu-:>
15:05.58Silviu-simpleminimap ftw
15:05.59IndustrialHow do I get the fubar minimap buttons to go around the square map
15:05.59Silviu-:)
15:06.00AzurewrathSqueenix <3
15:06.03Mi|esSqeenix disappears at random here :P
15:06.03Industrialcant find it in Squeenix
15:06.08IndustrialHow do I get the fubar minimap buttons to go around the square map
15:06.08Industrialcant find it in Squeenix
15:06.08Trillok so I guess I will look at the forums and see what mods need to be written :)
15:06.14axxoamy mimimap goes black all the time
15:06.16phyberTekkub got close, I think it was just off-square.  maybe rectangular.  it's been reported as a bug but there is no interest in fixing it!
15:06.18alkis_epgp needs a better ui
15:06.25axxoeven macro'ed /squeenix reload
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15:06.34AzurewrathIndustrial: it's integrated in FuPlugin
15:06.43AmadeoI bet out of the say...300 new addons or so that have popped up on WoWI...maybe 15 of them are larger than 5k :P
15:06.58phyberAmadeo: haha, I was thinking that earlier.
15:06.59IndustrialAzurewrath: well it aint doing anything, and I cant find how its onde iwth squeenix
15:07.00AzurewrathIndustrial: FuBarPlugin-2.0 to be exact :)
15:07.08alkis_5k with libs or without? :-p
15:07.08Amadeophyber: They're all message addons
15:07.11Silviu-Amadeo hey !
15:07.13Amadeowithout, haha
15:07.16Silviu-Mine is bigger
15:07.16Silviu-:>
15:07.21alkis_big != good ;-)
15:07.22Silviu-I think let me look:)
15:07.23Amadeo:P
15:07.39alkis_unless we are talking about dicks and even that is debatable
15:07.41Trillok what do you guys think of a summon monitor?
15:07.43Trillhahaha
15:07.52Trilli dont think there is one in Ace yet is there?
15:07.54Silviu-Ups
15:07.57Silviu-Smaller :D
15:08.01Silviu-1.43 KB (1,470 bytes)
15:08.02Amadeostuff like this
15:08.03Amadeohttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info5708-Nightfall.html
15:08.04Silviu-^^
15:08.28Silviu-http://wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5571
15:08.30Silviu-!
15:08.35Silviu-Imba addon !
15:08.45Silviu-I hope it works well in BC though ..
15:08.47Silviu-:>
15:08.49alkis_rofl
15:08.50AmadeoSilviu-: At least yours does something
15:08.55Silviu-http://wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5568
15:08.57Silviu-This works
15:08.59alkis_makybe they did it to get a beta key?
15:08.59Silviu-:P
15:08.59IndustrialSilviu-: a crappy casting bar?
15:09.02Silviu-No
15:09.06yacoobhttp://shutar.blogspot.com/2006/10/picture-what-will-world-of-warcraft.html
15:09.16Mi|esbest addon ever: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5162-WOW_MSN.html
15:09.18Silviu-Adds a "lag" to end of bar so u know when u can start casting new
15:09.49Silviu-Hmm
15:09.53Silviu-disconected from server
15:09.54Silviu-Ha ?
15:09.54alkis_zomg... wow msn
15:10.06alkis_wow is becoming a glorified mirc client
15:10.19yacoobMi|es, useless.
15:10.33phyberCairenn: do you check the crap which people are putting on WoWI before submitting their address?
15:10.40yacoobwow screen space is already precious, why clogging it more?
15:10.49phyberAmadeo: did you notice that Nightfall is actually called SpellVulnerability inside the zip?
15:10.55phyberis that some other mod on WoWI?
15:10.59AmadeoMi|es: This is my favorite feature: ?????????????
15:11.00Industrialyacoob: cause then you can hide the fugly chat
15:11.05Amadeophyber: Yeah? wow
15:11.06Industrialand only show that when you need it
15:11.29alkis_i think the ace community should compile a nice set of addons for raiding and keep it up to date... perfectraid needs a tad more promotion imo
15:11.53Mi|esmeh, I hate praid's layout
15:12.05Trilli have been using sRaidFrames and like it
15:12.11alkis_what do you mean by layout?
15:12.12IndustrialI think its fine how it is
15:12.16Silviu-Mine is called LagOmat inside cause that was the original mod name but decided LagMeter sounds a lil better
15:12.26phyberpraid is a clear win.
15:12.35Silviu-And just renamed modname from wowi :)
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15:12.57Mi|esthe single column 40 rows thingy
15:13.14alkis_you can have any number of rows you want
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15:13.25Industrialtekcub: ping
15:13.34phyberhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4879-Jiral's_Ammo_Warnings.html
15:13.40phyber^ ouch, big fat error message box.
15:14.04phyberalthough, to be fair, his is months old. :)
15:14.07Industriallollll crap addon :P
15:14.08Silviu-Lol :)
15:14.10Mi|esI prefer a 8x5 grid in agUF + custom layout
15:14.26AmadeoI had to stop using agUF due to the lag it causes in raids :(
15:14.39Silviu-hmm at me it does not
15:14.49Silviu-But actually i don`t use raidframes from it
15:14.52Mi|esUNIT_HEALTH update lag?
15:15.03AmadeoWhen people join the raid
15:15.08Mi|esah, that lag
15:15.10Amadeomy game freezes for like 2-3 seconds
15:15.33Mi|eshmm, that is annoying indeed
15:15.42Amadeobut this is on Live, so I dunno about TBC
15:15.50Mi|esit's half a second, but when *I* join a raid, it can freeze up to 3 secs
15:16.27alkis_never tried agUF tbh. praid works wonders for me as a priest though. my group first then a list of all the others
15:17.02sylvanaarthat issue with joining a raid happens to alot of people running alll sorts of mods
15:17.15Azurewrathmost healers i know complained that praid is way to minimalistic to heal.. i play a Mage and love it though :)
15:17.31Mi|es<-- going afk
15:17.34Amadeosylvanaar: That's the only raid-affecting mod I had
15:17.50phyberhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5693-ManaShieldMod.html
15:17.52phyberWTF
15:18.00phyber"Should be working if my friend is correct".
15:18.03yacoobIndustrial, not possible, too many addons use chat as point of information
15:18.11yacoobIndustrial, and yes, it's ugly.
15:18.12sylvanaarAmadeo: yeah but that doesnt mean it is the source of the problem
15:18.12alkis_what does it miss for healing i wonder? hp deficit and you can actually fit 40 frames on screen ;-)
15:18.31Amadeosylvanaar: Well, removing it solved it
15:18.38Azurewrathphyber: hey... at least it works.. if his friend is correct. :D
15:18.44phyberhehe
15:18.52Industrialyacoob: very much possible indeed
15:19.08Silviu-I play a warlock and don`t need any raidframes at all :) nothing to buff or heal :)
15:19.11Industrialyacoob: I imagine a tab at the edge of your screen that turns blue blizzard style when there is content
15:19.22Industrialsliding out into a chatframe
15:19.34Industrialaith tabs, for persons :P
15:19.49Trillanyone know if there is a simple summon ace2 addon?
15:19.50Industrialtabstabstabstabstabs <3
15:20.00Silviu-Nooo
15:20.03Silviu-Do it :P
15:20.07AmadeoLately I'm wondering if its SCT that's making my memory use grow from about 14MB to 18MB+
15:20.08IndustrialThiana: summon addon? what would it do?
15:20.13Amadeoas I play
15:20.22yacoobIndustrial, it would slide in and out very often, wouldn't it? :>
15:20.23IndustrialAmadeo: tried msbt?
15:20.29Trillas in Tracks incoming summon whispers, and one click summoning
15:20.29sylvanaarAmadeo: ywah - thats not a conrolled test. did you remove all your addons besides it?
15:20.31Industrialyacoob: only when you click it ofcource
15:20.38Silviu-Nop
15:20.40AmadeoIndustrial: Yeah, a long while back before SCT went Ace2
15:20.44Silviu-Like RaidSummon
15:20.48Trillright
15:20.53Trillan ace2 version
15:20.55Silviu-No
15:21.02Amadeosylvanaar: So what are you implying would cause it?
15:21.04Silviu-I deleted it cause don`t need to summon so much
15:21.12Industrialyacoob: like an irc window is shown to be active when someone says something
15:21.17Silviu-When i do i look in raid window click on it and summon :)
15:21.23yacoobIndustrial, doesn't make sense. It blinks. There *could* be valuable information. Or not. You need to click and unroll it to investigate
15:21.30Industrialyes
15:21.30Industrialand?
15:21.54Industrialyou could even have different tabs shown
15:21.55Industrialfor pms
15:22.01yacoobif you need to unroll it very often, just for checking, then it's only adding a burden, instead of taking it away
15:22.03Trillyeah just trying to come up with something that i can use to learn more about addon programming :)
15:22.11Industrialyacoob: welcome to irc clients
15:22.24Amadeosylvanaar: I don't have any raid mods, I don't have any chat channel mods, so unless it's a library, I can't imagine anything else is causing it
15:22.29yacoobit would work better, with some highlithing
15:22.35Silviu-Well u can try the summon thing addon that do .. hmm on whisper /tar and summon on keypress
15:22.36Industrialhighlighting?
15:22.40Silviu-Not that hard
15:22.49alkis_is anyone working on AceUI at the moment?
15:22.52yacoobIndustrial, pardon for asking, but do you switch between windows just because someone said something on that channel? :D
15:22.58Industrialthats what I said, if something happened color it blue like the blizzard tabs
15:23.13phyberhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5673-AutoEmote.html
15:23.14phyber:(
15:23.14Industrialyacoob: you dont?
15:24.13phyberdamn.  his strings "table" isn't even local in that one.
15:24.17yacoobIndustrial, highliting, as in. If message matches "You gain a level" - display a message through sct. If message matches 'someonenotonyourfriendlist whispers' - ignore it and so on. To minimize the frequency of visual alerting
15:24.18IndustrialIRC instant so you have to be there in order to reply to someone in a channel.. what if you are in 10 channels?
15:24.52yacoobIndustrial, I don't. My irc client runs all the time, when I'm away, it logs all msgs to me, and everything said with specific keywords
15:25.00Industrialmine too..
15:25.03yacoobIf I'm there, I normally track one channel
15:25.03sylvanaarAmadeo: im just saying that you need something more than 'i removed it and the lag went away' to say that it was the problem component
15:25.19Silviu-phyber don`t spoil other ppl`s dream to get in TBC before release they maybe want to have some fun :)
15:25.20IndustrialI track everything, always - im also always ther eno matter when I am.
15:25.20yacoob*sometimes* I hop around, but if there's no action, there's no need for me too :)
15:25.25Industrialschool work home
15:25.37Amadeosylvanaar: How about other people saying the same thing?
15:25.41yacoobIndustrial, apparently our use models differ :D
15:25.46Industrial;)
15:26.10Amadeosylvanaar: Why are you so defensive about it anyway?
15:26.44yacoobIndustrial, read 'Robots' Tales' by Stanislaw Lem :)
15:26.56yacoobthere's this story about a thug, that was information hungry :D
15:27.13haarmOk guys, how do I know when I should be using Compost, any time i'm creating a global table?
15:27.34sylvanaarAmadeo: im not =)
15:27.44JoshBorkehaarm: anytime you create any table
15:27.50alkis_when you create a lot of small tables and use them for short time basically
15:28.01haarmfor a short time, alright
15:28.05nevcairielstupid debian
15:28.06haarmmakes sense :)
15:28.10nevcairielfails to run any torrent client i tried
15:28.25cncfanaticsnevcairiel:
15:28.31haarmnevcairiel, even the original python console version?
15:28.35cncfanaticssudo apt-get install bittornado bittornado-gui
15:28.36phybernevcairiel: oh?  how so.
15:29.07nevcairielmy python is broken
15:29.10nevcairielfor some reason
15:29.23phyberrtorrent doesn't need python.
15:29.41phyberI think the only dep is libtorrent
15:29.41nevcairielbut it does need alot of libs my deb doesnt have
15:29.46packetlssnevcairiel: i can host the file if needed, got plenty of BW to spare
15:29.49phyberwell, if you're on stable ;)
15:29.53phyberuhh, testing.
15:30.06nevcairieli am on stable
15:30.32alkis_get ubuntu
15:30.41phyberyeah, I meant testing.  it probably wanted to update a ton of your libs to testing from stable, I guess.
15:30.59nevcairielnow it reports the torrent as being broken
15:31.00nevcairielwtf
15:31.09cncfanaticsget unstable or testing
15:31.11haarmhttp://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ <-- try that
15:31.14cncfanaticsstable sucks and is outdated
15:31.20nevcairieli know it is
15:31.31nevcairielbut i cannot switch
15:31.33alkis_ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu :-)
15:31.42haarmnoo alkis_, http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ is all knowing
15:31.44nevcairieli plan to redo the whole thing to gentoo
15:31.55Industrialarchlinux.org
15:31.58pastamancerAre there any euro locales for WoW besides enGB (which is really enUS), deDE and frFR?
15:32.04alkis_gentoo is a waste of time imo
15:32.07IndustrialspSP
15:32.12Industriali think
15:32.15alkis_too much hasle...
15:32.19haarmesSP ?
15:32.23Xuerianadd\\Leialyn: Ping
15:32.28Industrialno idea, spanish :P
15:32.45phybergentoo => www.funroll-loops.org
15:32.45add\\Leialynah hi Xuerian
15:33.01Industrialalkis_: arch is a 15 min install, if oyu have never done it before, and 20 to install all packages you need
15:33.10haarmit's esES for spanish
15:33.18XuerianWhat'd ya need?
15:33.39alkis_ubuntu still rules in my book: it looks nice, it works with everything, and it is still debian
15:33.52add\\LeialynI havn't had the chance to test XLootMaster but would it be possible, to define a button for Master Loot Option that gives the loot to you or a set person without having to use the group menu everytime ?
15:34.01arkanesI use ubuntu for my desktop, prefer it over anything else
15:34.02haarmand pastamancer, how dare you say enGB is enUS ... I have Honour Points, not Honor Points ;)
15:34.21add\\Leialyne.g. the coins in ZG, if you want to give all of them to a specific person, it sucks having to use the group menu
15:34.21nevcairiellol
15:34.21XuerianThere is, it's the priority menu and a self-loot button
15:34.28add\\Leialynhmmm ah kk
15:34.37add\\Leialyngonna test it next time
15:34.38pastamancerhaarm: really?  I didn't know that enGB reported a different locale as far as AceLocale was concerned?
15:34.44phyberalkis_: it is not debian.  call ubuntu debian in any #debian and watch how fast you're hated ;)
15:34.54nevcairielpastamancer: it doesnt
15:34.55pastamancerah
15:35.01haarmit doesn't, unfortunately, but it should
15:35.28Industrialthat test
15:35.32Industrialgot me Slackware
15:35.34Industrial=P
15:35.35alkis_phyber: yes you are right, it is not debian, it is debian done right
15:35.39haarmme too Industrial
15:35.45Industrial(wich is what i was using before arch)
15:35.51Industrialapparently it doesnt know about arch
15:35.52alkis_haarm: i took your test... it says ubuntu all the way lol :-p
15:35.59haarm:)
15:36.17haarmfunny thing is, before I switched to BSD, I used to use Slackware, so it's pretty accurate
15:36.52phyberwhat test is that/
15:36.59alkis_<PROTECTED>
15:37.10phyberah
15:37.14Industrialhaarm: hah :P
15:37.37Industriali set them feedback with a link to archlinux ^^
15:39.15arkanesTBC installed, now I wait impatiently for my key to show up
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15:39.30arkanesheh
15:39.31keyarkanes, *hug*
15:39.58yacoob...but seriously, where do you get keys from? :)
15:40.09KirkburnThe key-cutter
15:40.23yacoobNeat. Do you have TBC one?
15:40.23JoshBorkei go to a lock-smith usually
15:40.45Kirkburnyacoob, I'd tell you, but I'd have to kill you :P
15:40.47alkisare there any graphical UI builders outthere?
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15:40.58arkanesThere's at elast one
15:41.04alkislink?
15:41.04yacoobKirkburn, go ahead, I'm undead, I've been there :D
15:41.10hastenot recommended to use
15:41.11arkanesit's on wowinterface
15:41.14Kirkburn\o/
15:41.22arkaneshaven't done much with it myself
15:41.30JoshBorkealkis: don't use it!
15:41.34alkisok let me rephrase then, is there a good UI builder out there?
15:41.36JoshBorkewow ui builderc is the devil
15:41.48JoshBorkeit creates AWFUL xm
15:41.53JoshBorkes/xm/xml/
15:42.01alkisyeah i figured
15:42.04arkanesKirkburn: I'm getting mine from the wowi mod author thing
15:42.19KirkburnWell I nevah! :P
15:42.24alkisso i have to type all the xml by hand?
15:42.32arkanesAm I the only one who finds it much easier to create UIs in lua than in XML?
15:42.35JoshBorkeit's not that hard once you get used to it :-D
15:42.41Kirkburnarkanes, translated that was "So am I" :P
15:42.47alkisi just don't have enough time to spend on it
15:42.51arkanesKirkburn: high five!
15:42.53JoshBorkearkanes: for some things i think XML is better suited than lua
15:43.02pastamancerI definitely prefer using lua for creating frames
15:43.11KirkburnFives! High!
15:43.14sylvanaaryou were never really meant to work with the XML directly
15:43.20arkanesI make a parent frame in the XML so that wow will do the positioning save/restore for me, but I do all the rest from lua
15:43.46Kirkburnsylvanaar, well it was near-impossible at the start
15:43.56KirkburnCertainly now XML can mostly be ignored
15:44.11arkanesI bet a dollar that Blizz has a UI builder internally
15:44.25arkanesthat they use for all the default UI xml
15:44.26sylvanaarKirkburn: yeah, i know - i meant that there was a tool...
15:44.28alkisi bet 10k$ but that's not the point
15:44.30JoshBorkethe xml isn't that hard
15:44.43arkanesthe lack of documentation on it is frustrating
15:45.02JoshBorkeget a xml editor that has syntax highlighting and auto-fill etc and you're fine
15:45.06arkanesthe functions that do the same thing are better documented and often more reasonable
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15:45.26sylvanaarplus some xslt
15:45.57yacooboh, one needs to be mod author... *sulks*
15:46.17CIA-1703sayclub * r15834 10Cartographer/Modules/ (AlphaScale.lua MapUnhider.lua): Cartographer - Update koKR
15:47.04yacoob(hm, in fact there is a yacomod directory in Interface/Addons but it wasn't released ever :)
15:47.26alkisso xml it is then... JoshBorke any pointers to a well made addon that has UI in xml and it is easy to follow?
15:47.30sylvanaari designed a xml+script ui back in 99, and heard alot of the same things from my users
15:47.46arkanesXML is a pretty horrible thing
15:47.59sylvanaarnot really
15:48.00JoshBorkealkis: what are you trying to do?
15:48.04arkanesyeah
15:48.09alkisxml is ok, it was made horrible cause it is used for all the wrong reasons
15:48.16CIA-1703joshborke * r15835 10GuildBook/ (GuildBook.lua libs/ synchronizer.lua):
15:48.16CIA-17GuildBook:
15:48.16CIA-17- added TEALib and MD5-1.0 to externals
15:48.16CIA-17- started implementing encryption stuff
15:48.18arkanesno, it's just horrible
15:48.29JoshBorkearkanes: i don't think XML is horrible
15:48.31alkisjoshborke: i want to make a better ui for epgp
15:48.31arkanesit's not excellent a any purpose
15:48.45yacoobAKX, Have *you* claimed your beta key yet? :)
15:48.50uszXML is horrible, but CreateFrame is quite lengthy ^^
15:48.50arkaneshowever, it is widely used, and that alone makes it worth supporting
15:49.16AKXyacoob, I took part in the wowi thing, but er, what do I have to do now?
15:49.24uszi needed 500 lines of code to create UI for TooltipExchange using CreateFrame and friends
15:49.51pastamancerany idea if the people who do the translations for zhCN, zhTW, and koKR read/post on the forums?
15:50.29haarmI think it's usually people who use the addons who submit translations
15:50.30nevcairielok, my bt client is checking the file now
15:50.45haarmso if your addon is good, someone will translate :D
15:51.15alkisso my addon sucks then :-)
15:51.19JoshBorkealkis: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4152
15:51.34Trillcan you make individual names in a frame clickable?
15:51.41nevcairielhaha, already lots of finished people on the torrent
15:51.45nevcairielwonder if they got it all from me now
15:51.47sylvanaarxml is format for data, how can it be awful, it holds data just fine
15:51.51haarmbtw, I have found a way of determining a difference between enGB and enUS, maybe this could be incorporated into AceLocale? :D
15:51.55pastamancerI guess I'll release Grid when I get the frFR translation and let the asians do their own thing.
15:52.09alkisJoshBorke: thanks mon i will look at it over the weekend :-)
15:52.24JoshBorkepastamancer: why even wait for frFR?
15:52.44pastamancerJoshBorke: because I have someone who expressed interest in doing the frFR translation
15:52.55yacoobpastamancer, you took over from maia?
15:53.24pastamanceryacoob: maia and I have been working on it together
15:54.08alkiscan someone post something for me in the US forums?
15:54.21nevcairielyay for us, i think we fixed the enGB torrent :)
15:54.36haarmnevcairiel, i asked way up if it would help if i seeded it
15:54.48nevcairielit always helps if anyone seeds it
15:54.54nevcairielthats the way of torrent
15:54.55nevcairiel:)
15:55.03haarmwell i usually seed to a ratio of 1
15:55.07haarmsince i have a bad upload speed
15:55.30nevcairielnow the patch torrent has 30 seeds already
15:57.53sylvanaaroh yeah - that made me think - why arent the saved variables in XML?
15:58.09arkanesbecause they're in lua
15:58.12JoshBorkesylvanaar: because it's easier to make them in lua
15:58.26arkanesthe UI just loads & executes the file
15:58.37haarmlocal old_GetLocale = GetLocale; function GetLocale() if (LOCALE_enGB == true) then return "enGB";else return old_GetLocale();end;end
15:58.37phyberbecause that would be an abomination unto the lord and whoever decided to do that should have a harpoon put through their skull.
15:58.44haarmnow we can have justice!
15:58.53arkanesalthough that makes me think, I wonder if theres anything clever you can do by inserting regular code into your savedvariables
15:59.06JoshBorkethere's not
15:59.08JoshBorkeit's protected
15:59.21arkanesby what?
15:59.28haarmare you sure?
15:59.31Industrialsaving/loading on login/out
15:59.32JoshBorkeit's sandboxed rather
15:59.34alkisJoshBorke: are you on US servers?
15:59.45arkanessandboxed makes more sense
15:59.48JoshBorkeyes but i can't be bothered to type anything in
15:59.54alkis:-(
16:00.11haarma long time ago i made a mod that i could update remotely, by sending new lua through a sync channel that was stored in a variable and then executed using some command
16:00.23JoshBorkeloadstring
16:00.28haarmsomething like that
16:00.36JoshBorkeyes.  that is very dangerous
16:00.42haarmof course :)
16:00.50haarmit was an experiment
16:01.10Sarozsylvanaar, about fubar_regenfu, it resets the regen every time you cast a spell
16:01.13Sarozdidnt use to do that
16:01.17Sarozkindda sucks on patchwerk
16:01.27sylvanaaryeah
16:01.28alkiswhat is the best way to ask blizzard for an api improvement?
16:01.34haarmalthough now with things like MD5Lib Josh, you can protect it to a certain extent
16:01.55Industriallocal db = idInterface.db.profile if not db.Minimap then db.Minimap = {} end
16:02.05Industrialhow can that say my call to db is nill
16:02.10JoshBorkealkis: first determine if there would be a large base for that
16:02.11sylvanaarwhat do you want it do do?
16:02.15Industriali am debugging it and the db table is there
16:02.16Industrial:|
16:02.18phyberhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5719-DBZ_Facts.html
16:02.20JoshBorkealkis: then get someone to post on US forums ;-)
16:02.25phyberNO!
16:02.42phyberCairenn: are these people really going to get keys? :/
16:03.07nevcairiellol
16:03.09JoshBorkeIndustrial: is idInterface.db there?
16:03.13JoshBorkeIndustrial: is idInterface.db.profile there?
16:03.16Cairennhe has a legit mod that's been on the site for ages
16:03.22IndustrialJoshBorke: yes, yes
16:03.33JoshBorkeIndustrial: is it a table?
16:03.38hasteJoshBorke: he has other mods tho' :p
16:03.38Cairennbut yeah, a lot of them are lame
16:03.42phyberCairenn: ok, fair enough if he has.
16:03.45Industrialit has to be cause it gets loaded when i initialize my addon object
16:03.51phyberbut as an example, a lot of people are submitting crap.
16:03.52Industrialin a file BEFORE the current in the toc
16:04.00hasteah, he just uploaded all of them
16:04.07Cairennhowever, I'm willing to put up with some lame, in order to get the ones that really deserve it in
16:04.09sylvanaarSaroz: your regen is reset when you cast, and there is no real health regen in combat.
16:04.15CairennI know, trust me, I know
16:04.36phyberI suppose you do. having to authorize them, etc :)
16:04.41Cairennyup
16:04.47Cairennthere are some we've been denying
16:04.56Cairennand some that we've ended up banning folks over
16:04.59Sarozmana sylvanaar
16:05.07Sarozmy mp5 still works when casting
16:05.16Sarozso... dont reset it :)
16:05.40sylvanaarSaroz: it says 0 until the next UNIT_MANA
16:06.28phyberCairenn: it kind of worries me that these arn't the worst, in that case ;)  I'm glad we didn't have to witness those :)
16:06.43IndustrialJoshBorke: it seems .profile isnt there
16:07.13JoshBorkeIndustrial: =D
16:07.13hasteIndustrial: oh, I know what's HOURS of fun!
16:07.25arkanesheh, 2 downloads of DBZ Facts
16:07.30IndustrialJoshBorke: I have to set the profile myself? isnt that the users dicision? :S
16:07.38Industrialarkanes: I have 11!
16:07.38JoshBorkeIndustrial: don't ask me.  i don't do ace :-P
16:07.40hasteIndustrial: ## SavedVariables: AddOnName
16:07.45phyberarkanes: one of them was mine when I was checking out the code ;)
16:07.57Industrialhaste: lol yes
16:08.02IndustrialJoshBorke: why not?
16:08.09hasteIndustrial: I've done that twice actually, it's HOURS of fun each time
16:08.11Industrialarkanes: oh oh, 14!
16:08.12JoshBorkei don't feel i need it
16:08.17Industrialhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5605
16:08.34JoshBorkei'll mod just as crappily with it as i will without it
16:08.37IndustrialJoshBorke: well me neither but its just so much more.. lazy :D
16:08.39Sarozthat sucks sylvanaar :/
16:08.43SarozIt didnt use to do that
16:08.48arkanesI refuse to believe this shoutcast mod works
16:08.56arkanesdoes PlayMusic really accept urls?
16:09.01phyberIndustrial: <3 your avatar
16:09.02alkisJoshBorke: it is something that you will probably like too (it will make your addon less usefull though). Have a blob of 255 bytes per guild member stored on server side, and give a guarantee that that is not going to be backed up and stored on blizzard servers. Also I have some ideas for synchronizing writes to it, that will make it super simple
16:09.09Industrialphyber: ^^
16:09.14Industrialtiger kitty
16:09.25JoshBorkealkis: o.O where did that come from?
16:09.38sylvanaarSaroz: im sure it can be improved, thanks for the input
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16:09.56JoshBorkei'm starting to get lost in all the parallel conversations
16:10.00Industrialhaste: go and try my interface \o/
16:10.02WildefireHia guys any idea why Lithe Tooltip Doctor does not accelt /ltd move ?
16:10.03arkanesIf you
16:10.09Industrialhaste: and tell me how it sucks
16:10.12hasteIndustrial: noes!
16:10.14Industrial(not howmuch)
16:10.16Sarozsylvanaar, mm
16:10.16arkanesyou're worried about the qality of your coding, by all means use Ace more
16:10.29arkanessince Ace libs likely do what you were going to do better
16:10.30hasteIndustrial: I hate redoing my interface :(
16:10.45pastamancerJoshBorke: less coding, more documenting! :p
16:10.46Industrialhaste: copy your addon folder and get a new one i
16:10.54alkisJoshBorke: the suggestion i had... sorry i was being distracted here at work, so I replied a tad late :-)
16:10.56Industrialhaste: put mine in the fresh one and run
16:11.01Industrialhaste: no db options will be set
16:11.18hasteIndustrial: It takes 50 sec just to start WoW :(
16:11.25JoshBorkewow, i'm just so lost now. lol
16:11.26hasteprobably more now, since I'm compiling
16:11.30Industrial.. how?
16:11.35hasteLinux?
16:11.36Industrialhm
16:11.40JoshBorkealkis: start from the beginning in a tell?
16:11.41Industrialfail.
16:11.42Industrial:D
16:11.49hasteTBC starts instant tho'
16:11.49JoshBorkepastamancer: i did my part :-P
16:11.59Industrialhaste: *angry fist*
16:12.02pastamancerJoshBorke: you stopped in the middle :(
16:12.31Industrialnedkeykthx
16:13.47IndustrialWhy isnt my profile set when i do CreateDB? shouldnt it use Default?
16:13.54WildefireSo noone else got problems with LitheTooltipDoctor's move function ? :(
16:13.55IndustrialMyAddon.db.profile doesnt exist
16:14.46Industrialmeh i gotta go, bbl
16:15.00Icerothuh.. wowi is giving beta keys to basically any mod author?
16:15.13haarmonly if you host with them I think
16:15.25haarmunfortunately I kept all my mods private :(
16:15.26Icerothwell yea, that's why i said "basically" :)
16:15.39Icerothtempting nevertheless
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16:15.57Icerothi'm just not sure i want to get a beta key
16:16.06arkanesI'll be goddamnit
16:16.10arkanes*ed
16:16.17Icerothi kinda want to explore the outlands as complete, finished
16:16.17arkanesPlayMusic *does* accept URLs
16:16.20haarmI have beta access but I can't be bothered to play there anymore
16:16.37arkanesit must be a wrapper for the DirectX function
16:17.08haarmhang on, it didn't accept files outside of the WoW directory /
16:17.13haarm?
16:17.16pastamancerfancy
16:17.22haarmwhat about file:// urls ?
16:18.03arkaneshaarm: An excellent question. If it really is a wrapper for the directx function then file URLs will work
16:18.09Sarozsylvanaar, I fixed it, gonna commit
16:18.26sylvanaarSaroz: so did it
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16:19.48sylvanaarSaroz: Did you test on a character with no 0 i5sr regen?
16:20.08Saroztesting it now
16:20.16arkanesfile URLs not working :(
16:20.22haarmnope :(
16:20.28haarmtime to set up a local webserver :D
16:20.36SarozI have 60mp5 from equip, but it keeps showing 22regen
16:20.37arkanesindeed
16:20.43sylvanaaryeah
16:21.02sylvanaarSaroz: regen tic's are 2s
16:21.05Sarozah
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16:21.43Sarozk, I fixed it then
16:21.51Sarozremoved "self.vars.regenMP = 0"
16:21.54Sarozin UNIT_MANA
16:22.06haarmnow all we have to do is work out some sort of buffer overflow to get it to set some variables in the lua VM, and it's actually useful :)
16:22.30haarmuh, actually, I just thought of a use without that
16:22.45arkanessure
16:22.45haarmsubmitting profile data to a remote site using PlayMusic with a url + query string?
16:22.49Sarozsylvanaar, maybe you need to add it's "MP/2s" or something
16:22.50arkanesexactly
16:22.56arkanesyou can use it to get data out of the sandbox
16:23.10Sarozsylvanaar, thinking of adding an "Avarage regen during this fight"
16:23.22Sarozbasically, mana regen for total fight devided by time
16:23.29haarmas cool as that is, it's not cool, pretty sure it can be abused
16:23.34arkanesyeah
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16:24.01arkanesI don't have a webserver handy to see if query strings and the like go through
16:24.10haarmwhat if you managed to override a file and GlueXML started sending off usernames and passwords through a broken PlayMusic
16:24.16sylvanaarSaroz: currently it displays the time you spent during the fight below 100% mana
16:24.21Sarozyea
16:24.22haarmyea i'm starting one up now, i'll let you know
16:25.22malrethdoesn't WoW fail to launch if it detects that GlueXML has changed?
16:25.46arkanesif you can hack gluxml you can do plenty without relying on playmusic :P
16:25.58XuerianJust renames the folder and continues using the archived version, iirc
16:25.58arkanesI don't think there much opportunity for an outright exploit
16:26.10arkanesbut still
16:27.20CIA-1703saroz * r15836 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_Regen.lua: FuBar_RegenFu: Fixed regen resetting upon every spell cast
16:29.22arkanesman skoodat is going to town with the addons
16:29.29arkanesand they all have the same screenshot :P
16:30.29haarmarkanes. what did you use as a param to playmusic? /script PlayMusic("http://localhost/1.mp3"); isn't working at all for me, and the file exists
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16:30.47arkanesno param
16:30.57haarmthen how did you play a url :D
16:31.03arkanesPlayMusic("http://88.191.11.140:5000");
16:31.41haarmthat didn't do anything either :)
16:31.45arkanesodd
16:31.49arkanesUS or EU?
16:31.59arkanesoh, do you have music turned off?
16:32.02nevcairieldoes that work for you arkanes?
16:32.05arkanesyeah
16:32.08nevcairielcool
16:32.11arkaneshave to turn music on in the sound options though
16:32.27nevcairielwow great
16:32.27nevcairiel:D
16:32.49nevcairielonly question, how do i stop it again ? :)
16:32.55arkanesStopMusic()
16:33.08nevcairielah it even fades out
16:33.10haarmi had master volume down :D
16:33.13haarmit worked
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16:34.03nevcairielnow if there was a way to get information about the stream
16:34.24nevcairielthen you could build a small music player :)
16:34.42Sarozsylvanaar, you think it's too much to add "mp/2", even I didnt know it was per 2 second -.-
16:34.45haarm127.0.0.1 - - [03/Nov/2006:16:35:52 +0000] "GET /1.mp3?username=lol&password=pwned HTTP/1.1" 200 10627072
16:34.50haarmdoes params too
16:35.01arkanesamazing
16:35.31arkanesno more saved variables parsing for ctprofiles...
16:36.09haarmthis will be fixed as soon as blizzard hears about it, so don't go basing any large pieces of work on it
16:36.18arkanesyeah
16:36.30arkanesso, do I post it in the UI/Macro forum?
16:36.50haarmI think it's the fastest way to get it noticed, even if it is promptly deleted
16:36.56haarmalthough,
16:36.58sylvanaarSaroz: mp/tic - if you try to put it on the bar you will need an option to turn it off
16:37.18haarmwhat's their policy like for posting something like this, don't want to get slapped with the ban stick
16:37.52arkanesno idea
16:38.09sylvanaarSaroz: there are too many combinations for the fubar text already, but on the tooltip sure
16:38.14arkanesI don't think theres a banstick for it thouhg, some guy posted a loophole in the securetemplates and didn't get banninated
16:38.19haarmmaybe a better approach, lets see if we can find one of those UI MVP people on irc somewhere, and get them to submit it on our behalf
16:38.49haarmI know Iriels has code in the beta client, so they're working close with blizz
16:38.56arkaneskinda suprised file URLs don't work
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16:39.15haarmdid you use proper url escaping? :P
16:39.29arkanesyeah
16:39.35arkanesdoes it work for you?
16:39.58haarmnope
16:40.04haarmbut there could be any number of reasons
16:40.09Alarishahey again peeps - anyone here an AceOptions data table genius?
16:40.10arkanesyeah
16:40.13haarmmaybe they've hooked FileIO routines
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16:40.33arkanesThe most likely answer is that PlayMusic is a thin wrapper around either DirectX or FMOD
16:40.43haarmi'd guess fmod personally
16:40.50arkanesI know they use fmod
16:41.00arkanesbut I also know that DirectSound has a function which works exactly like this
16:41.21haarmi'll tell you in a minute
16:41.28haarmDX wont play mods i bet :p
16:41.48arkanesDX will play anything you've got a registered codec for
16:42.06haarmmm
16:42.15arkanesneed to go mess around with my directx debugger
16:42.17arkanesthat would tell me
16:42.18haarmalright then, time to blow the dust off IDA
16:42.25arkanesdoesn't really matter though
16:43.01haarmi know, but now it's for curiosities sake :)
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16:43.15CIA-1703sayclub * r15837 10Cartographer/Modules/MapUnhider.lua: Cartographer - correct my miss typing
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16:45.04AlarishaI have a thingy in an aceoptions data table that in a 'text' section sets "get = false,' but when I hover over that option, Dewdrop throws a fit
16:45.39AlarishaI followed the API where is says if I set get to false then 'false - no get function, acts like an execute that takes parameters'
16:45.59haarmbtw arkanes, what was the loophole in securetemplate? :)
16:46.26arkaneshaarm: It's on the ui forum if you want to look
16:46.46arkanesYou could selectively call UseAction as long as it was on macros, because macros reset taintg
16:47.29arkanesAlarisha: its working for me
16:47.32haarmaha
16:47.33sylvanaarIDA - the crack of coders everywhere
16:47.49haarmsylvanaar, surely that was softice? :)
16:47.51Cairennthanks for finding that hole guys, it's been reported now
16:48.05haarmalright Cairenn :)
16:48.37sylvanaarhaarm: softice for cracking, IDA as an addiction
16:49.02Alarishaarkanes: the section is "purge = { order = 9, type = 'text', name = L["TEXT_PURGE"], desc = L["DESC_PURGE"],get = false, set = function(v) auditorFuToonToPurge = v; StaticPopup_Show("AUD_DATA_PURGE") end, validate = {}, }"
16:49.09Alarishadid I set get wrong?
16:49.33haarmI have to admit, once you're sat there going through the code, you can lose hours in what seems like minutes
16:49.40Alarishahmm, what's that black square...
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16:51.26arkanesAlarisha: it looks right to me
16:51.36Alarisha:(
16:51.37sylvanaarhaarm: i used IDA at work to get into PocketPC Shell stuff we coulnd't get source for
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16:52.22haarmto be honest, the only thing I ever used it with was WoW
16:52.32arkanesWarden goesn't get pissed?
16:52.52haarmit was mostly pre-warden
16:52.55sylvanaarhaarm: i never tried it on wow - id probably get a visit from the turtle
16:53.22haarmbut in the early days, attaching a debugger actually disabled warden's checks
16:53.39haarmi mostly use it for disassembly now anyway, not debugging
16:53.41Alarishaarkanes: if I set get to any random variable then the menu works, but it shows radio buttons on the options in the submenu, and I understood that if I set get to false, it would remove those radio buttons
16:53.58arkanesremove the validate entry
16:54.50sylvanaarbeat me to it
16:54.54Alarishathe validate entry is populated tho, by a 'for name in pairs(Auditor.db.realm.chars) do
16:54.54Alarishatable.insert(optionsTable.args.toonToShow.validate, name)
16:54.59Alarishatable.insert(optionsTable.args.purge.validate, name)
16:54.59Alarishaend
16:55.05Alarishacrap, sorry, didn't mean to spam that
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16:56.18arkanesI don't think validate works right with get = false
16:56.18sylvanaarvalidate = radio buttons
16:56.18arkanesbecause of what sylvanaar said
16:56.19Alarishahmm
16:56.19sylvanaarif you use a table
16:56.51Alarishahmm
16:56.56sylvanaaryou can also set validate to a function and return true/false
16:57.00AmadeoWho makes the best laptops these days?
16:57.22arkanesyeah, adding a validate to my working one makes dewdrop flip out also
16:57.35arkanesa validate table that is, haven't tried a function
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16:58.03sylvanaarthe table means (a value from this set)
16:58.05AlarishaI'm not sure how I'd set validate to a function that would do what i wanted
16:58.11arkanesa function works
16:58.44sylvanaarwhich generates the usage text for you automatically too
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16:59.20Alarishabasically, I want a menu option that shows: 'Toon to purge --> List of toons gathered by the table.insert loop' and when you click on the name, it calls the purge function for the name you have clicked on
16:59.56arkanesOra2 does that by adding each of the names as it's own item
17:00.21Alarishawith Dewdrop directly, rather than an aceoptions table, tho?
17:00.31arkanesvia aceoptions I think
17:00.52Alarishaah nice, will look at that then and see how it does it
17:00.59arkanesI just tested and replaceing get with a function that returns a null, plus a validate table works
17:01.02CIA-1703saroz * r15838 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (FuBar_Regen.lua FuBar_RegenLocal-enUS.lua): FuBar_RegenFu: Added "Average MP Regen in Last Fight" to tooltips, showing average MP/5s for current/last fight
17:01.16arkaneser, not a null, but an empty string
17:02.01KirkburnPosted this on #wowi-lounge ... though some here might find this humorous too :) http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/11/02/fighting-trash-mobs-is-totally-overrated/
17:02.01sylvanaarhttp://ace.pastey.net/2026
17:02.01Alarishaah so, get = function() return "" end?
17:02.01arkanesAlarisha: yes
17:02.03Alarishaooh, will try that, brb :)
17:02.03Kirkburn(the moral of the story: don't hack WoW)
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17:03.40Alarishaarkanes: still shows the radio buttons, but I guess I can live with that cosmetic aberration
17:03.54Alarishathanks for your help arkanes and sylvanaar :)
17:04.12sylvanaaryou want a dropdown? yeah i gotcha
17:04.32Alarishayeah, dropdown was the original intention
17:09.44Trillany howtos on how to make a name clickable in frame? Do i need to create a new font string for each name?
17:12.01AlarishaI suppose I could just make it a group item and dynamically insert the names I want as args for it using table.insert
17:12.05Alarishamight do that in fact
17:12.21arkanesThats what I do alarisha
17:12.38arkanesalthough I use subitems of my dynamic items so it has to be that way anyway
17:12.50Alarishayeah :)
17:12.55Alarishawell, I'll try that :P
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17:17.46cncfanaticshttp://www.worldofraids.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1151
17:18.48DhragaEvening all
17:19.36DhragaAnyone got a sec to see if this is swiftly fixed ? - core.lua:12: attempt to index global `ProximityLib' (a nil value) -  http://pastey.net/2027
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17:21.31arkanesYou don't have ProximityLib installed
17:21.41DhragaBut yes I do
17:21.46arkanesor if you do, it's loading after your addon, make it a dependency
17:21.53DhragaStandalone the newest version, and its loaded also
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17:22.04DhragaAh thanks =)
17:23.40CIA-1703kergoth * r15839 10LagOmat-oCB/: Kill LagOmat-oCB, as that was the old buggy fork of LagOmat. kLagmeter works better.
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17:36.13pastamancer8pm I thought
17:36.31nevcairieli disabled that sun icon on my minimap so i cannot check :D
17:36.44nevcairielwell its 6:30 only anyway
17:37.23pastamancerfishing for nightfin?
17:37.40nevcairielyeah :P
17:37.57nevcairiel(i am sitll not sure if that counts for moonglade, its kinda darkish there always)
17:38.31pastamancerI usually fish the river in feralas
17:39.08kovii've caught sunscales in feralas at around midnight more than once :<
17:40.02Trillok i am going ot keep asking because I cannot figure this out. I have a frame with the enableMouse option on it
17:40.10Trilli am going to have a list of names , that I want to click on
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17:44.34nevcairielpurl is back
17:44.55sylvanaarTrill: SetItemRef(link, text, button)
17:45.23sylvanaarTrill: go download ChatCast from curse
17:46.03Trillok
17:46.44sylvanaarTrill: it does summmon and healthstones via clickable links in the chat fram
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17:57.40phybergrrrrr
17:57.43phyberoSkin is fucking up again.
17:57.55phyberit's adjusting the ViewPort when it shouldn't be
17:58.10phyberleaving me with a 1 pixel line down the left side and across the top of the screen
17:58.17phyberI've never even touched those settings before.
17:58.57CIA-1703sylvanaar * r15840 10/branches/FuBar_SWStatsFu/ (25 files in 13 dirs): FuBar_SWStatsFu: The authors own FuBar plugin, going to resolve the name collision, Probably will call this SWStats2Fu
18:00.38KyahxoSkin got messy :(
18:00.45Mikmabloat.
18:00.57Mikmathat's why i made my own addon from haste's code :P
18:01.16KyahxIm sure haste isnt too happy about where oSkin's gone either :P
18:01.23hasteoSkin is PURE shit
18:01.25hasteeod
18:01.31Kyahx=/
18:01.31Mikma:D
18:01.39Mikmawell there's a point said
18:01.41hasteI did a svn blame on core.lua, and I wanted to strangle jncl
18:01.55hastehe actually defines EVERYTHING as globals
18:01.56hasteeven _G!
18:02.02Kyahxheh
18:02.19phyber:|
18:02.22hasteNow over to why I am here!
18:02.39hasteIs there a simple pick lock addon on the svn?
18:02.46hasteor do I have to write one :D
18:02.47Mikmahaha
18:03.00Mikmaglobals for all!
18:03.19arkanesEasyUnlock is the mod I use
18:03.32arkanesit's non-aced of course but if you want to convert one theres a place to start
18:03.36KyahxI can't image it would be too complex to write thou
18:03.48arkanesit does a few handy thing
18:04.03hastearkanes: I'll have a look at it
18:04.15hasteI'm basicly just thinking of click on the lock boxes in the trade window
18:04.16arkanesadds unlock button to trade screen, right click on junkboxes in inventory to open them
18:04.17hastethat's it
18:04.29arkanesadds lockpicking skill required to tooltips
18:04.39hasteokey, then it does more then I want too :p
18:04.58phyberhmm, actually looks like it might be a bug with the 6.10 ATi drivers inside IF.
18:05.12phyberthe line goes away when looking in certain directions or by going outside.
18:05.13Kyahxhate ATI >:(
18:05.49arkanesgod
18:06.00KyahxI've never used the offical drivers
18:06.01arkanesyou ever read a forum post and feel like your brain is just giving up and dying?
18:06.08Kyahxarkanes: every day
18:07.25phyberarkanes: all the time when I read lag threads in the WoW tech forum.
18:07.46phyber"OMG BLIZZARD FIX THIS FUCKING LAG ON MY FIRST HOP IN THE TRACEROUTE, IT'S CLEARLY YOUR FAULT!"
18:08.50CIA-1703sylvanaar 07Artack * r15841 10FuBar_SWStatsFu/libs/: ^^ he did it
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18:11.26Alarishais there are way in an aceoptions table to make it so once you have clicked on one of the options in a validate type thing, it closes the menu?
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18:13.19phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_110306_180957.png
18:13.23phyberscreenshot of stupid line :/
18:13.38phyberit goes to the colour of whatever colour the sky above you is.
18:14.07CIA-1703sylvanaar 07Artack * r15842 10FuBar_SWStatsFu/ (. FuBar_SWStatsFu.toc): FuBar_SWStatsFu: toc/svn externals yadda yadda
18:14.26Alarishawhere's the line there? I looked and cannae see it :P
18:14.48Alarishaah.. teeny tiny line on the left and top
18:14.51fathomare there any plans for making an ace mod of swstats or damagemeters?
18:14.59phyberAlarisha: yup, that one.
18:15.07phyberit's more noticable when you're actually playing.
18:15.10cncfanaticsEPMeter fathom, i don't think its rdy tho
18:15.20fathomawesome
18:15.25AlarishaI get a similar thing with a pinkish line appearing on the right and bottom of my screen sometimes - also using ATI
18:15.29fathomis it workable enough to play with though?
18:15.41cncfanaticsno idea, never used it before
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18:16.20phyberwell, I didn't get it before I upgraded driver to 6.10 yesterday.  maybe they just screwed something up in this one.
18:16.31Alarishahehe
18:17.35hastehmm, that was rather easy :p
18:17.45hastenow I need make it check if it's a lockbox, and finito
18:21.15Dahncncfanatics, you available for a chat?
18:21.21cncfanaticsofc Dahn
18:21.23cncfanaticsusual chan
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18:22.02sylvanaarSW Stats 2 is fine
18:22.04Sarozthere should be an easier way to add text to a fubar plugin
18:22.12Sarozlike :AddText('text', value);
18:22.27Sarozso it hides the text if you choose to, and the addon itself doesnt have to keep track of that
18:22.43Sarozand you could do multiple AddText():p
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18:26.18sylvanaaryeah, i bet such a solution would require just as much code by the developer
18:26.40CIA-1703xinsonic * r15843 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames-zhTW.lua ag_UnitFrames.toc): ag_UnitFrames: - add zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
18:26.51phyberdamn, Alarisha left.  I found the cause of the line :)
18:27.06phyberTemporal AA is bugged in latest driver, it seems.
18:27.24phyberbah, or not.  there is it again.
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18:29.04CIA-1703xinsonic * r15844 10BanzaiAlert/ (BanzaiAlert.lua BanzaiAlert.toc): BanzaiAlert: - add zhTW, thanks to memy.
18:29.13hastenow I need to find a lockbox I can test on
18:29.46sylvanaaranyways you have to update your data too before SetText gets called
18:30.34kergothhmm someone was doing an addon to auto-open boxes/clams when looting them, anyone remember what it was called, or if it ever got finished?
18:30.37kergothi know it was in the svn
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18:31.19sylvanaaryou can try definign tags %m %mp etc and allow the user to supply a format string
18:31.36[FH]Birdemanihey
18:31.41[FH]Birdemaniany you beta fools
18:31.50[FH]Birdemaniis it true there are no more glancing blows?
18:32.47Gnarfozwhere'd you get that idea? ^^
18:33.07[FH]Birdemanii believed a forum post
18:33.33Sarozbigwigs warning colors are fubr
18:33.34Sarozfubar
18:36.53kergothA   /home/World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns/XRS/images/Charchoal.tga
18:36.55kergothcharchoal?
18:42.41CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15845 10Interview/Adapters/swstats.lua: Interview: typo
18:44.50Cairennarkanes:  slouken says thank you for catching that
18:48.16hastecatch what?
18:48.27hastes/h/hing/
18:48.45Cairennjust a hole he found that could be exploited
18:48.55Sarozwtf is this interview
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18:50.00hastedamn steino had to disconnect
18:50.16sylvanaarSaroz: im too tired to try to splain it - i made a post on the forum
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18:51.14ckknight_blah, gtg anyway
18:51.15Trillwhats a good ace2 chat addon?
18:51.18ckknight_cya all in a bit (when I get to school)
18:51.23Trillto like move edit boxes etc
18:51.24ckknight_Prat
18:51.35omega_anyone else have a problem with hovering players in Perfect Raid when using TipBuddy?
18:51.47arkanesCairenn: woo ;)
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19:03.01Trillkergoth said chronometer heh
19:03.11Trilljust trying to replace my non-ace addons with ace addons
19:03.57Trillthere is an error in it heh
19:04.09sylvanaaryeah, can chrono run without a UI
19:04.30Trillgiving me an acehook error
19:04.43hastesteino: we're pulling C'Thun soon, so answer fast :p
19:05.00kergothdunno, works fine here
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19:05.08kergothsylvanaar: it uses candybars
19:05.46Trillrunning into all kinds of issues Prat has errors too heh
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19:06.55neriakhi
19:07.25KnThrakHrm...
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19:08.22KnThrakCall me the ultimate n00b, but the server says I need to register my nickname, and I got no idea how to, since the motd doesn'T say anything about it
19:08.26KnThrakAny hints? :(
19:08.52JoshBorketype /msg nickserv help
19:09.00neriak./msg nickserv register passwort
19:09.03kergothsylvanaar: chronometer is fairly well architected, wouldnt be hard to split it
19:09.11KnThrakOk, thaaaanks
19:09.12neriakand then ./msg nickserv identify password
19:09.47neriakyou have to identify yourself each time you connect to this server, this makes sure you're the original owner of this nick
19:09.54arkanesI found chronometer to be rather frustratingly obtuse actually
19:10.14KnThrakChronometer was a bit confusing until it got the same options/optics as Antagonist
19:10.18KnThrakBut now it's quite useful
19:10.19arkanesit seems to be based off the same data table that the original CCwatch was and that I never understood
19:10.44KnThrakHooooray
19:10.50KnThrak<-- registered with server \o/
19:10.56yacoobIndustrial, look :)
19:10.57KnThrakThanks :)
19:11.04arkanesMy timer mod has some stunwatch style stuff in it but I'd like to ditch it if I could get chrnometer to integrate, but I made no progress last I tried
19:11.08kergothchronometer code looks pretty clean and straightforward here.  the Core is clean and obvious and the data is split up amongst the classes
19:11.11yacoobIndustrial, http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info5573-Sct_Chat.html
19:11.35CIA-1703miles 07Miles * r15847 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files): ag_UnitFrames: Added new aura system.
19:13.01sylvanaarwell, if anyone wants to write an Interview module to expose the data that chronometer can provide =) +++karma
19:13.17arkaneswhats interview do?
19:14.06sylvanaarmodular framwork for data exchange mods
19:14.19Mi|esurl?
19:14.29kergothnifty
19:14.44sylvanaarbranches/Interview/dev
19:14.52arkaneschronometer doesn't have the data stuff seperated out from what I've seen
19:15.03arkanesand actually that would be a fantastic thing to have in a library
19:15.09Mi|esno, chronometer i meant :P
19:15.19arkanesit's in the trunk
19:15.56arkanesa lib that handled all the watching and hooking and whatnot and just posted Ace events would be really fanstastic
19:15.58kergoth<PROTECTED>
19:15.59kergothself:AddTimer(self.SPELL, BS["Adrenaline Rush"], 15, 0,1,1)
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19:19.35sylvanaarim not sure if you are still talking about chrono- heres my forum post for interview - id love some input
19:19.44sylvanaarhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2896.0
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19:21.27kergothsylvanaar: wonder if Interview would be a good place for tek's event that gets sent over acecomm when someone combat loots.. he had shoveled it into aceevent, which is questionable, but accomplishes the goal of being on as many machines as possible
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19:22.13AKXXuerian, around?
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19:22.51XuerianAKX: Sortakinda
19:23.08Gamefaqcould someone that supports BigWigs look at this plz: http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/113
19:23.08AKXYeah, so that screenie you showed earlier, was that XLootMaster (or whatever it is again)?
19:23.24XuerianYeah
19:23.26JoshBorkewe're sorry, bigwigs is no longer supported
19:23.32JoshBorkeplease go back to ct bossmods
19:23.33AKXOK, so Xuerian, does it work?
19:23.37XuerianYes, it works
19:23.43AKXIs it reliable?
19:24.06KnThrakBigWigs is no longer supported? :O
19:24.14XuerianI've never used it in a raid. Ping Azurewrath, he's been a regular user :P
19:24.15Xuerian~whaleslap JoshBorke
19:24.18purlACTION beats JoshBorke upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
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19:24.56AKXI'd like to try it, but if it freaks out and borks the assignments, I'd get more flame than the raid during Ony
19:25.27Xuerianakx: The basic priority/class list should work fine, I haven't had much feedback about the random part of things
19:26.38AKXGnurf
19:26.46AKXWell, for tomorrow's part of MC then
19:26.56JoshBorke~whaleparry
19:27.06kergothsylvanaar: how's the interview bandwidth usage?
19:27.35XuerianReally, the classes/priority/self works just fine. Random assignment works fine too, all reliably as far as I know, The only part I'm not sure about is if the rolls will actually get sorted
19:28.10XuerianBig fiasco about iterators yesterday, and all...
19:28.14sylvanaarkergoth: its not an issue at the moment - not alot of data flow
19:28.39kergothjust curious, as, for example, my guild has a couple druids on dialup :)
19:28.54AzurewrathXuerian: huh, what?
19:29.06XuerianAzurewrath: Latest XLMaster reliable?
19:29.14XuerianOr last you've used, anyway
19:29.28XuerianAside from that gsub error I fixed
19:29.52Xuerian(was from the dewdrop being refreshed when the item could no longer be retrieved, just before closing the list)
19:29.57CIA-1703nymbia * r15848 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
19:29.57CIA-17Manufac:
19:29.57CIA-17- zip ALL the externals please, mister script. not just 3.
19:30.02Azurewrathdidn't test yet, some revision was borked, switched back to cml then.. was getting on my nerves to get an error at every naxx blue thingie ;)
19:30.08Xuerian>.<
19:30.13sylvanaarit depends on what modules you have running. most of the modules i provided send a few messages in response to a command
19:30.15Azurewrathgimme some minutes.. just doing ouro, ill ask for lootmaster
19:30.28XuerianWell, latest should be errorless. I hope. :P. Thanks a bunch.
19:31.48XuerianAzurewrath: Side note, if you can't exit/reload wow at the point don't bother, there's a new file to be had that's rather necessary (And updates to all three modules, not just master)
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19:32.49sylvanaarkergoth: re: loot event- it might be im not sure.
19:33.50Trillso does chronometer work or what? i was getting errors with it? Something special I need?
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19:35.37KnThrakTrill: on live, nothing needed except Chronometer
19:35.56Mikmabraiiiiins
19:36.03KnThrakOn beta, dunno if there's even a version of Chrono, only found a handful of Ace2 addons with TBC versions so far
19:36.06Trilltrying to dl another copy just in case, i keep gettng an AceHook error
19:36.20KnThrakOh, that one
19:36.25KnThrakDownload the Ace2-package, too
19:36.28sylvanaardownload Ace2
19:36.40KnThrakDespite the embedded library -- just download Ace2, Chrono will then use that instead
19:36.47KnThrakIt's bug with the embedded AceHook-library
19:36.49Mikmabraiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins!
19:36.51KnThrakAffects most Ace2-addons
19:36.57KnThrak*exorcises Mikma*
19:37.03Trillok will try that
19:39.17KnThrakIs there any trick to finding TBC-versions of the ace2-addons btw? Come on, I know you're hiding them somewhere :)
19:39.39hasteKnThrak: check the branches on the SVN
19:40.01Mikmai did hide them in my ass
19:40.39KnThrakDuh - the SVN. After the talk about dev-only, I didn't even think about that again -- thanks :)
19:42.07AzurewrathXuerian: ouro down in first try, the loot/ui god likes you ;)
19:42.10Azurewrathgoing to test now
19:43.31kergothsylvanaar: there's an addon out there that lets you bind a key, then communicates the keypress state of that key to everyone else.. basically you bind it to your vent/TS pushtotalk key and anyone with the addon can see if someone else with it is currently talking
19:43.49kergothan interview plugin for that might be useful
19:44.07maiaKnThrak: problem is, you'll need to check the entire /branches for TBC folders. and some addons from trunk work too, once you alter the interface number in the toc.
19:44.14Silviu-kergoth nice Ace`d version of LagOmat thx for this :)
19:44.20maiaoh, btw, what is "interview" I've seen on the svn?
19:44.26KnThrakAlthought for that use of showing talking on TS, TeamSpeakOverlay works just as well
19:45.01kergothSilviu-: oh hey, didnt know you were on irc.  np
19:45.20kergoththanks for writing it in the first place
19:45.22kergothits a kickass idea
19:45.38Silviu-Well i`m still learning
19:45.38Silviu-:)
19:45.44Silviu-And now must learn ace
19:46.08kergothyou're welcome to take over the one i did and maintain and release that, if you'd like
19:46.22Silviu-No it`s ok u can maintain it
19:46.37Silviu-I did that for personal use but wante to share a little
19:46.40AzurewrathXuerian: ok.. works fine, but the roll list displays values greater than the one chosen.. and the rolls are not sorted
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19:46.54Silviu-And verry glad someone liked my ideea
19:47.10kergothi cheated a bit, spellstatus library already does the hooking on useaction & castbyname and stuff, and checks whether or not its actually a spell, so didnt have to do that, just hooked its cast function :)
19:47.52Silviu-Something strange though if i cast an instant and then an normal my whole bar get`s red ~~
19:48.45Silviu-Didin`t have time to look at code
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19:49.51kergothdangit, i thought i fixed that
19:50.43Azurewrathmhm.. someone noticed that the Colors on all BigWigs Messages are gone with the latest revision?
19:51.04Silviu-They are wight
19:51.06Silviu-wite
19:51.19axxowhite
19:51.30Silviu-white
19:51.32Silviu-:)
19:51.37Silviu-i`m alt+tabbing
19:51.48Silviu-Atm at Ebonroc
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19:52.05Azurewrathjup.. white
19:52.59Mikma*LOL* http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2525.msg57398#msg57398
19:53.24Industrialoh ym fucking god
19:53.27Industrialthat is so lame
19:53.36Industrialok that just pisses me off
19:53.42Mikmaindeed
19:53.43Industrialreally.
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19:54.09Mikmatoo lame to even put in words
19:54.09IndustrialGIVE ME SOME TO BREAK!!
19:54.14Industrial:P
19:54.15Mikmapastamancer: may we have your comment? ;)
19:54.37Industrialboycot them
19:54.39Industrialplease
19:54.46Industrialcontact all the wow sites
19:54.52arkanesthem who?
19:54.54pastamanceroh is that the "I wish I was Grid + CTRA + PerfectTargets" addon?
19:54.55arkanesthe balance or RDX?
19:55.12arkanescause I already boycott rdx :P
19:55.14Industrialwhatever that is, they copied grid :|
19:55.22Industrialarkanes: I mean so the wow sites do
19:55.22Trilldo the Ace2 CTRA type mods work with CTRA? ie., trap the same ready checks etc?
19:55.44Trillor does everyone have to have ORA2 as opposed to CTRA ?
19:55.49`-FISKER_QoRA2 works with CTRA
19:55.50arkanesTrill: ORA and ORA2 are both CTRA compatible
19:55.54kergothyea trill
19:55.55Trillnice
19:56.07Trillyou guys are some smart cookies :)
19:56.18Industrial\o/
19:56.52IndustrialQuestion: I have done MyAddon:RegisterDB with the name in my toc, cna MyAddon.db exists. MyAddon.db.profile doesnt, why?
19:57.04Industrialshould it create that and link to the default profile?
19:57.08pastamancerThe Balance looks like it was inspired by some of the earlier Grid mockups but I seriously doubt that their raid frames will be any near as nice and flexible as Grid is
19:57.11Industrialshouldnt*
19:57.39uszIndustrial, doesnt AceDB require also registering defaults so it exists?
19:57.43arkanesI don't believe db.profile exists until you register defaults
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19:58.11arkanesalthough it might be nice if you got an empty table instead of nil
19:58.42Industrialusz: dunno thats why i ask
19:59.20arkanesYou want to call RegisterDefaults('profile', {})
19:59.26Industrialright k
19:59.27MikmaIndustrial: i'm kinda disappointed about pastamancer and his comment :P
19:59.30arkaneswith appropriate content in the table of course
19:59.30uszIndustrial, i bet you need to register even empty table so it sets data properly
19:59.55eternally777speaking of tables, how would you use next() to find the last key of a hash-table?
20:00.06arkanesthere's no such thing
20:00.12arkaneshash tables are by definition unordered
20:00.19uszhash tables doesnt have *last* key
20:00.22XuerianWhich makes them a pain in the ass
20:00.23Silviu-Mikma: and what can he do ? if ppl stole the ideea and look he can`t sue them .. just eventually swear them :)
20:00.53arkanesI detest lua tables, I really do
20:01.00usz] uxrms"vs ccqv#aufujcp'epyu3
20:01.03uszoops
20:01.08MikmaSilviu-: shuss assclown i'm waiting for pastamancer ;)
20:01.11arkaneswish I had access to Python datatypes and functions so much
20:01.29pastamancerMikma: scroll up :p
20:01.30eternally777lua.org/pil says next returns nil when there are no more pairs.. wouldn't that mean that there needs to be a "last" key?
20:01.44arkanesYou can iterate through the table and store the last one you hit
20:01.48Mikmapastamancer: that's so mild, swear a bit
20:01.53Silviu-;)
20:01.54arkanesbut thats a pretty useless definition of "last"
20:01.55eternally777arkanes: that's what I want to do
20:02.04eternally777Oh, my mistake.
20:02.15XuerianIf order doesn't matter, what you want to do is easy
20:02.18pastamancerMikma: why, Grid will blow them out of the water... tonight!
20:02.19arkanesIf you want to do that, then its almost certainly not what you want
20:02.28arkanesso why are you trying to do it?
20:02.30Mikmapastamancer: wtf release? no this can't be!
20:02.39Mi|es"Mages makes excellent tanks" "At least we keep aggro"
20:02.45pastamancerMikma: release-ish
20:02.46Mi|esgo me! :P
20:03.11phybernymbia|sleep: with Manufac, when the menu closes the button for the tradeskill is still highlighted (meaning it's as if the tradeskill window is open).  maybe you need to call some function to close it when the menu closes? :)
20:03.39kergotheternally777: pairs has no defined order, what last is could vary
20:05.32phybernymbia|sleep: other than that, Manufac is really nice :)
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20:23.08Industrialpurl: \o/
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20:24.07cncfanaticsDahn, still here ?
20:24.09kergothdangit, found a bug in the lag meter thingy
20:24.17DahnIndustrial: ya, saw that.  i can get keybindings to change.  can I get button ID's to change on state change?
20:24.20Dahnyes cnc
20:24.36kergothif you cast a spell without a target, and it pops up the targeting cursor for it, it times from the time the spell was cast, not from the time you actually target it
20:24.51DahnTrinityBars seems to do it by show/hide the remapped button
20:25.24Mikmatrinity... lawl hehe
20:25.38Mikma"you can disable unused bars by dragging skills off"
20:25.46Dahnya, not particularly efficient
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20:27.45Trillyou guys know of a mod that can filter the messages that come in to chat?
20:28.04Trilli hat the "JoeBlow has defeated noob in a deul"
20:29.17ArmoooTrill: I have used System Message Control Tool
20:29.52`-FISKER_QOMG!!1
20:30.24`-FISKER_QThe Logitech keyboard G15 is with danish layout now as well
20:30.47`-FISKER_Qjust g11 now :o?
20:31.25Gnarfozcherry keyboards > logitech keyboards :<
20:31.45SarozRazer keyboard ftw
20:31.59Sarozneed danish keys though :(
20:32.03Tem1str = 2 ap for a shaman?
20:32.19Industrialkergoth: cant the lag meter thingy just adjust the bar instead? :P
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20:33.07CIA-1703xinsonic * r15859 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFuLocale.zhTW.lua): FuBar_GroupFu: - add zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
20:34.00kergothIndustrial: well, lag isn't an exact science, doing it this way leaves it more in the hands of the user, but that's a possibility.  i think thats what cirk's fastcast is supposed to do
20:34.12AmadeoThat was the most stressful PvP ever
20:34.44kergothIndustrial: talk to Silviu-, it was his idea :)
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20:35.44Silviu-i think is more nice to see WHEN to start new cast instead of adjusting and making it smaller
20:35.45Silviu-no ?
20:35.46Silviu-:>
20:36.47CIA-1703xinsonic * r15862 10FuBar_LocationFu/ (FuBar_LocationFu.toc LocationFuLocale-zhTW.lua): FuBar_LocationFu: - add zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
20:37.52IndustrialidInterface:RegisterDB('idInterfaceDB') idInterface:RegisterDefaults('profile', {})
20:37.56Industrialfunction m(x) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(x) end if idInterface.db then m('We have DB') end if idInterface.db.profile then m('We have PROFILE') end
20:37.57[FH]Birdemaniwoudl it make sense to add modular functionality of locationfu to cartographer?
20:37.59Industrialwhy WHY!
20:38.05IndustrialI only get 'We have DB' :(
20:38.31CIA-1703xinsonic * r15863 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/ (FuBar_MicroMenuFu.toc MicroMenuFuLocale-zhTW.lua): FuBar_MicroMenuFu: - add zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
20:38.32nymbia[FH]Birdemani: ck was talking about doing that last night
20:38.45Industrialthe name in the toc is right
20:39.09uszIndustrial, pastey!
20:39.28IndustrialI just pasted it
20:39.47uszi meant full file..
20:40.12CIA-1703xinsonic * r15864 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (FuBar_MoneyFu.toc MoneyFuLocale-zhTW.lua): FuBar_MoneyFu: - add zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
20:40.55Industrialhttp://pastey.net/2034
20:41.16CIA-1703xinsonic * r15865 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc PerformanceFuLocale-zhTW.lua): FuBar_PerformanceFu: - add zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
20:41.34CIA-1703xinsonic * r15866 10FuBar_QuestsFu/FuBar_QuestsFu.toc: FuBar_QuestsFu: - add zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
20:41.40Industrialso.. :P
20:41.40uszIndustrial, DB is fully operational in OnInitialize
20:41.41kergoth[FH]Birdemani: thatd be nice, i never did like the idea of a fubar plugin doing that
20:42.06uszyour messages are printed before it could be fully initialized
20:42.07nevcairielIndy: isnt the .profile some kind of metatable ? i am not sure if it works like that
20:42.22Industrialbut the other crap where it errors is in a different file
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20:42.57CIA-1703xinsonic * r15867 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFuLocale-zhTW.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: - add zhTW....
20:43.10uszstill code is executed too early
20:43.21Industrialthats .. crap ..
20:43.39uszmove code to function idInterface:OnInitialize()
20:43.50uszDB is 100% operational there
20:43.54Industrialno, its in a different file
20:43.56Industriallol
20:44.08uszwell put prints in there then...
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20:44.14nevcairielput it in some function, and call that function in OnInit
20:44.16IndustrialI have adozen of other files
20:44.19uszin here they wont work
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20:44.42Industrialnevcairiel: thats.. not nice.. :(
20:45.13nevcairielace2 was designed for a more OO approach, and not the standard design you use :)
20:45.30uszfull OO approach even ^^
20:45.30Industrialwell if some user wants to disable a part of my addon
20:45.36Industrialeg a different file
20:45.37CIA-1703xinsonic * r15869 10FuBar_SWStatsFu/ (FuBar_SWStatsFu.toc SWStatsFuLocals.lua): FuBar_SWStatsFu: - update zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
20:45.46Industrialit will error if it calls for somehing in that file
20:45.48uszIndustrial, you got ModuleCore for that..
20:45.57IndustrialI know
20:46.11Industrialbut thats way too much code for a SIMPLE DB STORE lol :P
20:46.34uszno its not, just put in in right place and time and will be fine :)
20:46.35CIA-1703xinsonic * r15870 10FuBar_VolumeFu/ (FuBar_VolumeFu.toc VolumeFuLocale-zhTW.lua): FuBar_VolumeFu: - update zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
20:47.13Industrialbyebye AceDB-2.0 :P
20:47.47uszno no! let it be, just put all code that was outside functions into OnInitialize functions of core/modules
20:48.56nevcairielMi|es is that new aura system you built operational?
20:49.21CIA-1703xinsonic * r15871 10FuTextures/FuTextures.toc: FuTextures: - add Notes-zhTW.
20:49.50NeeblerI'm wearing sweat pants right now, and I'm not fat. It's an oxymoron, I know
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20:51.31SarozSVN SPAM
20:51.33Saroz:(((
20:51.35CIA-1703kergoth * r15872 10kLagmeter/addon.lua: (log message trimmed)
20:51.36CIA-17kLagmeter:
20:51.36CIA-17* Hook SpellTargetUnit to override the start time set by CastOriginal for
20:51.36CIA-17<PROTECTED>
20:51.36CIA-17* Register with spellstatus for the instant cast event, to undo the start time
20:51.36CIA-17<PROTECTED>
20:51.39CIA-17<PROTECTED>
20:52.10nevcairielSaroz: and 90% locale :(
20:52.21Sarozye
20:52.38nevcairielyou signed up on wowi for bc key?
20:52.44Sarozye
20:52.53Sarozand worldofraid
20:52.54Sarozehh
20:52.58Sarozworldofwar.net
20:53.43cncfanaticseh, cld someone explain me how TriggerEvent works with args
20:53.51cncfanaticsi'm passing args but not getting em in my OnEvent funct
20:54.24uszi use it this way:
20:54.38uszin my core i got in OnInitialize: self:RegisterEvent("TooltipExchange_ItemSeen")
20:55.03XuerianThanks Azure. I'll work on it. And yes, at the moment it doesn't filter rolls, I'll work on that too.
20:55.04uszalso core has event handler:
20:55.08nevcairieltriggerevent(event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4) should do it
20:55.11uszfunction TooltipExchange:TooltipExchange_ItemSeen(itemID) ... end
20:55.33Industrialusz: now I have to change 8 files into modules >:(
20:55.37XuerianAzurewrath: Thanks/etc/will work on/grats/proper name ping :P
20:55.38uszthen in module i trigger it this way: self:TriggerEvent("TooltipExchange_ItemSeen", tonumber(itemID))
20:56.01uszand it just works ^^
20:56.08AzurewrathXuerian: hehe, i have a highlight on azure as well ;)
20:56.24Xuerianlol. oops :P
20:56.54cncfanaticswell, this:
20:57.00cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
20:57.11cncfanaticsI get arg1 as 3, no trace of the other args
20:57.52uszthats extremly strange as you get shifted args Oo
20:58.18cncfanaticsarg 1 & 2 are not even passed through
20:58.33SarozAll this state shit is gonna confuse the hell out of me
20:58.39uszwell i use myself internal events on which i pass 3 args, works 100% good
20:58.48cncfanatics:/
20:59.23JoshBorkeare you sure you've got everything definedh properly
20:59.44cncfanaticshow can "1" be undefinned ? :p
20:59.47cncfanaticsundefined*
21:00.00usz"1" seems pretty solid ^^
21:00.14Mikmacncfanatics: nil it?
21:00.42cncfanaticsi do nothing with the vals except trying to print em out
21:00.53nevcairielthats really weird
21:01.37cncfanaticsok, something new :o
21:01.45cncfanaticswhen my stuff is in OnEvent only "1" is missing
21:01.55cncfanaticsbut when onevent relays the shit to another function "2" fades too
21:02.03cncfanaticsseems each call I lose an arg for some reason
21:02.14CIA-1703kergoth * r15873 10kLagmeter/addon.lua: kLagmeter: kill the debug prints.
21:03.16nevcairiellive or beta?
21:03.25Mikmayes
21:03.46cncfanaticsbeta nev
21:04.12cncfanaticsi'll pastey my code, sec
21:04.16ChrizoDoes anyone know how I can make my Candybar PURPLE? 'module:RegisterCandyBar(id, time, text, icon, "purple")' doesn't work for me
21:04.16nevcairielmaybe something with the new ... thing is broken
21:05.23cncfanaticshttp://ace.pastey.net/2036
21:05.44nevcairielbest would be to talk to ckk about it, it seems to work on live
21:05.52cncfanaticscld u just read thru ?
21:05.56cncfanaticsmaybe made some error
21:05.59nevcairielsure
21:06.02cncfanaticsso, the debug code in OnEvent returns as carg1 what I passed as carg2, and as carg2 what I passed as carg3
21:06.28cncfanaticsthe FB2_ActionInRangeStateChanged returns carg3 as ActionID (which it takes as carg1), other two are nil
21:06.54uszcncfanatics, how is the event registered?
21:07.30cncfanaticssec
21:08.14cncfanaticsadded registering at top of my pasty
21:08.31cncfanaticsit pulls out all events to register from a table, loops thru them, and registers em all
21:08.42JoshBorkehm
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21:08.59nevcairieli blame it on the tbc branch an triggerevent
21:09.18nevcairiel*and
21:09.22cncfanaticsi'm using the live branch
21:09.35cncfanaticsbut, my code is correct ?
21:09.46uszseems fine...
21:09.57cncfanaticsand also, I lose an argument as OnEvent calls the function, so there must be something else wrong, as i'm not in the Ace stuff anymore
21:10.01nevcairielmaybe try the ace2 beta branch ? :)
21:10.11nevcairielhrm
21:10.59cncfanaticslua doesn't seem to like to call methods with dynamic names with arguments :/
21:11.27uszlua likes everything :)
21:11.44cncfanaticsguess not ...
21:12.01cncfanaticsi'm gonna try some simpeler script to fill a bug report
21:12.29nevcairieli am trying the most basic example now on live
21:12.50vhaarr~seen ckknight
21:13.10purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 26m 56s ago, saying: 'bash, Kalamadi '.
21:13.30cncfanaticsfound it
21:13.33cncfanaticsblizz bug, for sure
21:13.43cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
21:13.53cncfanaticsthat'll get me arg2 in chatframe1, arg1 being nil
21:14.03cncfanaticstry that code nev, what does it print out in live ?
21:14.10nevcairielsec
21:14.18cncfanaticsshld print out "1" and then "2" right?
21:14.20nevcairielonly "2"
21:14.27pastamanceryou're not calling it properly
21:14.40pastamancerif you want it to pass self that is
21:14.56uszah yes, you are missing self parameter
21:15.03kergothyep, first arg should be test, since you defined it with :
21:15.06usztest["test"](test, "1", "2")
21:15.30cncfanaticslemme try
21:15.39pastamanceryou either want function test.test(arg1, arg2) or test["test"](test, arg1, arg2)
21:15.43cncfanatics(seems acevent ain't passing it correctly as well then)
21:15.57cncfanaticsworks idd
21:16.02cncfanaticstnx a lot :)
21:16.16cncfanatics(but that means acevent dsnt call it right either)
21:16.20cncfanaticsas OnEvent misses an arg
21:16.29pastamancerfoo:bar(arg1, arg2) is the same as foo.bar(foo, arg1, arg2)
21:16.46cncfanaticsbah, where is ckk when u need him
21:16.49nevcairielcncfanatics: not really, thats cour code :)
21:17.01pastamancerfunction foo:bar(arg1, arg2) is  the same as function foo.bar(self, arg1, arg2)
21:17.22pastamancerdon't confuse your ':'s and '.'s
21:17.44nevcairielcncfanatics: add a self as first argument to your onevent, and it will work
21:18.04cncfanaticsyea, doing that atm
21:18.10cncfanaticsdoes OnUpdate have a self btw ?
21:18.35nevcairielit would need the same, yes
21:18.51cncfanaticsI mean, is the self variable declared at all ?
21:18.55pastamancerI think you want function FlexBar2.Controller.Events.OnEvent( stuff ) if it's being called by wow's OnEvent
21:19.28cncfanaticsby wow events it won't get anything passed thru anyway
21:19.29pastamancerotherwise it'll "eat" your first argument by assigning it to 'self'
21:19.36kergothcncfanatics: blizzard's event -scripts- dont get self passed, only this (the global) is set.  acevent on the other hadn....
21:19.48cncfanaticsok, so I need to fake a self :)
21:20.28cncfanaticsty all
21:21.42cncfanaticscode works :)
21:22.05cncfanaticsI just spared a bunch of mem by only calling SetVertexColor when the usuable state actualy changed now :)
21:22.13cncfanaticsnow time to use compost & locas
21:22.19cncfanaticss/locas/locals/
21:22.36JoshBorkewoot!
21:22.43cncfanatics?
21:22.44JoshBorkedon't use compost though
21:23.01cncfanaticsy ?
21:23.13cncfanaticsi'm using tables every few lines of code
21:23.20JoshBorkeincremental garbage collector is better
21:23.28JoshBorkeand trying to use fewer tables is better
21:23.44kergothit isnt bad to maintain your own pool of reused tables if thats necessary, but a shared one like compost really isnt now
21:23.57kergothsomeone should do a new aceoo class in a lib for table reuse pools
21:24.12cncfanaticswhy is compost so bad now ? explain :p
21:24.27kergothit isnt "so bad"
21:24.30kergothits unnecessary
21:24.47JoshBorkecompost does a full table scan when 'free'ing the table
21:24.53kergothincremental gc ensures that your now unused tables will be freed sooner, instead of waiting until theres a ton of shit to dc
21:24.58kergothmeh
21:25.19cncfanaticsok, so if I use compost, i'll just use more CPU anyway, which is exactly what I don't want
21:25.34kergothright
21:25.40JoshBorkeif you know what your tables are going to be like, your own function will do much better
21:25.49JoshBorkebut it is even better if you figure out a way to not use tables at all
21:26.15kergothusing tables isnt bad, constructing a ton of them that you'll just throw away anyway is
21:26.20cncfanaticstable.insert calls need a table :( so does table.remove
21:26.29cncfanaticsoh, and most of my tables are made to save stuff
21:26.33cncfanaticsso they're kept
21:27.01kergoththen compost is irrelevent. its purpose is to reuse tables, generally temporary ones, to avoid lots of memory allocations and frees in a short period
21:27.03JoshBorkecncfanatics: as long as the tables are always referenced then you're fine
21:27.13JoshBorkelisten to kergoth :-)
21:27.14`-FISKER_QXuerian
21:27.18`-FISKER_Qwhat does xmasterlooter do?
21:27.23`-FISKER_Qxlootmaster ofc
21:27.27XuerianFamiliar with CML?
21:27.30kergothhmm, i need to code something
21:27.32kergothbut what
21:27.33cncfanaticsany other libs I cld use to improve performance ?
21:27.44JoshBorkekergoth: shore up my synchronizer in GuildBook :-P
21:28.04JoshBorkecncfanatics: the best performance comes from writing your own good code
21:28.17Silviu-kergoth can i give u an ideea ? ;)
21:28.20JoshBorkelibs are generalized to provide good performance
21:28.20cncfanaticstrue true JoshBorke, which is exactly what I try, but libs help also :)
21:28.37cncfanatics(oh, btw, from how much calls on is it worth localizing a function ?)
21:28.45`-FISKER_Qnot familiar with CML no :P
21:29.00kergothlocalizing a function?
21:29.01JoshBorkelocalize pairs, ipairs, table.remove, table.insert
21:29.20JoshBorkelocal pairs, ipairs, tremove, tinsert = pairs, ipairs, table.remove, table.insert
21:29.21kergothi suggest you learn to use the lua interpreter and compiler outside of wow
21:29.25kergothdo performance testing and measurement
21:29.28kergothanalyze your code
21:29.29`-FISKER_Qso how can we suddenly be able to loot items that haven't dropped on the server yet?
21:29.31kergothif you truly want to optimize
21:29.37`-FISKER_Qbecause of Xrealm bgs?
21:29.37Silviu-kergoth an auto pvp trinket user bind on anything, mouse movement key pressing etc / wotf for undeads :)
21:29.41Silviu-Only that :>
21:29.47cncfanaticsain't half the code written by addons wow-dependant ? :/
21:30.15kergothSilviu-: tek has a lib for the key pressing hooks with an action queue, iirc, thatd do the legwork
21:30.26kergothand cnc goes poof
21:30.36kergothwhen he returns, lets enlighten him to wowbench :P
21:30.42kebinusanmmm I love grid
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21:30.52cncfanaticsback, damn client crashed
21:30.53Silviu-;-)
21:31.09pastamancerkebinusan: are you using the "TBC" branch?
21:31.11kergothcncfanatics: lots of lua code isnt wow specific, it doesnt use the apis
21:31.15kergothand if it does, you can use wowbench
21:31.24kergothwhichi simulates the wow api, event firing, mouse clicking, etc
21:31.32kergothno UI to it, but sufficient for many things
21:31.48cncfanaticscan I fire fake events with it ?
21:31.59kergothyes
21:32.02cncfanaticsooooh
21:32.04cncfanaticslinky ?
21:32.06kergothits incredibly useful
21:32.15Xuerian`-FISKER_Q: It's a remake of the master looter dropdown with a row for the item.... Players sorted by class.... Prority lists.... Random distribution...e tc
21:32.21kergothhttp://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench
21:32.40Tekkubokey, metatable majick question
21:32.49`-FISKER_Qniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
21:32.50`-FISKER_Qi like you
21:32.59`-FISKER_Qbeen looking for that for quite some time now
21:33.07Tekkubthinking I'll change gratuity around a tad... want opinions
21:33.09Silviu-Pfpf started download on patch and noticed ... all are at 99% ~~
21:33.39Tekkubinstead of grat:GetLine(1) I want to have like grat.L[1] and grat.R[1]
21:33.41TekkubI think
21:33.51Tekkubthat sound good or stupid?
21:34.07vhaarrTekkub: How about just grat[1] ?
21:34.21Tekkubwell there's left and right lines
21:34.25vhaarroh, L and R
21:35.19vhaarrTekkub: Might as well name it Left and Right, then.
21:35.25vhaarrIt doesn't get faster with shorter names.
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21:36.00uszunmutual strings ftw
21:36.49Industrialhttp://pastey.net/2038
21:36.52arkanesI prefer the functions to wrapping it up as attribute access
21:37.19Funkeh`hey all
21:37.23uszi lowered memory usage of my item database with not trying to encode item type/subtype/equiploc with numbers as i learned lua keeps only 1 instance of given string in memory and compares strings by pointer checks only
21:37.35arkanesits handy for stuff like acelocale where you use it all over the place, but gratuity doesn't get used like that in my experience
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21:37.40vhaarrusz: Immutable, you mean?
21:38.09IndustrialI need gelp.
21:38.11Industrialhttp://pastey.net/2038
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21:38.22vhaarrIndustrial: wassap
21:38.32Tekkubwell half of it is I'm gonna cache the values so that it doesn't keep calling GetText
21:38.41nevcairielIndustrial: a "name" field
21:38.43Tekkubbut I won't remove the old method
21:38.45Industrialoh
21:38.46Tekkubjust add this
21:38.46Industrial-_-
21:38.47kergothusz: you did monetaryvalue?
21:38.52`-FISKER_Qhmmm
21:39.04`-FISKER_Q[2006/11/03 22:33:05-228]: FuBar_GroupFu\GroupFuLocals.lua:2: AceLocale-2.1: Cannot provide the same locale more than once. "enUS" provided twice for GroupFu.
21:39.08`-FISKER_Qwith the newest :I
21:39.17vhaarrGet my branch, then.
21:39.44uszvhaarr, i mean that strings exist on lua heap and when you operate on them you actually operate on poiners to actuall values, when you change string with lets say: string = string .. "a", you actually create new string on heap and previous one will be GCed if nothing else references it
21:40.17kebinusanpastamancer:  no, sadly I dont have TBC beta
21:40.27uszkergoth, monetaryvalue? i dont know what you mean by that ^^
21:40.31kergothah
21:40.34arkanesthe docs I read say that lua has full by value string pooling
21:40.35pastamancerkebinusan: it works in 1.12
21:40.37vhaarrusz: That's interned strings.
21:40.43`-FISKER_Qi dislike branching :I
21:40.47cncfanatics:o
21:40.53kergothmonetaryvalue is a new ace2 item sell value item that uses a big string to hold all the costs, to reduce memory usage
21:41.01kergoths/item that/addon that/
21:41.07cncfanaticsdebugprofilestop() returns 959, returned 1221 before localizing
21:41.09vhaarrusz: But strings are by nature immutable.
21:41.09cncfanaticsnice upgrade
21:41.11kergoth~whalestab purl
21:41.13purlACTION stabs purl with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
21:41.33arkaneslua has interened strings, not immutable strings
21:41.44uszokay, my bad
21:41.45kergothlua's strings are both interned and immutable.
21:41.48KemayoYeah, wouldn't a table lead to less memory churn in that situation?
21:42.04arkanesyes
21:42.09`-FISKER_QXuerian
21:42.14Xuerian`-FISKER_Q: Yess?
21:42.18`-FISKER_Qis there some way to auto-ml items based on a whitelist?
21:42.32XuerianThat was brought up last night and it's on my todo list.
21:42.38uszstill having opne instance of string in memory is nic idea as every instance takes 16 bytes in memory
21:42.42snurrelawl, my hunter has been twice in MC (8/8 giantstalker) and once in BWL (6/8 dragonstalker) :D
21:42.47uszs/opne/one
21:42.48`-FISKER_Qok
21:42.55uszoops missed /
21:42.57Xueriansnurre: Some of my guildmates would kill you, for the bwl part
21:43.05snurre:p
21:43.07Xueriansnurre: Though I got 7/8 cen in one run :p
21:43.16vhaarrusz: Lua automatically interns strings.
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21:43.45snurremy warr has been doing BWL for over a year tho
21:43.49snurreand still dont have full wrath
21:43.52JoshBorkenot to be lazy and not readback.  but WoWBench doesn't work with Ace2
21:43.53Xueriangeez.
21:44.00uszvhaarr, i know, just didnt know exact name for the machanism
21:44.05vhaarrah
21:44.42uszbugged rici in #lua a little for memory usage information
21:44.47`-FISKER_Qfor over a year??
21:45.05`-FISKER_Qhaha vhaarr
21:45.10`-FISKER_Qyour wasn't exactly better :/
21:45.21`-FISKER_Q[2006/11/03 22:42:40-229]: FuBar_GroupFu\GroupFu.lua:34: AceLocale(GroupFu): Translation "GroupFu" does not exist.
21:45.31pastamancerJoshBorke: it kinda does.  You need to fake GetAddOnMetadata()
21:45.32vhaarrFisker, did you restart WoW?
21:45.38vhaarrFix your nick :P
21:45.40KemayoI'm amused.  You have to go back 9 commits on QuestsFu before you find one by me. :)
21:45.55Trillis it difficult to create an addon that you can access a function from a macro with?
21:45.58JoshBorkeyea, i'm too lazy to fake it
21:46.00kergothusz: rici is the resident lua god
21:46.06kergothhe knows all, i swear
21:46.08Fiskergonna do it after the boss
21:46.18kergothwell, not all, i'm sure the actual lua devs like lhf know more, but  still ;)
21:46.23JoshBorkecncfanatics: locals can make things MUCH faster
21:46.41uszkergoth, yea had same impression as lhf pointed me to rici to ask about details :)
21:46.45JoshBorkecncfanatics: i went from 170ms to 35ms to run a function when i converted to locals and decreased my table lookups
21:46.58kergothhehe
21:47.01cncfanaticsseems it sometimes slows me down
21:47.09cncfanatics(when calling the function only 5-10ish times)
21:47.30JoshBorkeyou need to figure out what needs to be fine-tuned
21:47.53cncfanaticsthats exactly what i'm benchmarking atm
21:48.12cncfanaticsgonna take a while :')
21:48.14JoshBorkethings that get called often need to be fine tuned
21:48.19uszkergoth, at least i got all the details from him to write memory usage estimation for my addon which stores full tooltip data
21:48.47cncfanaticsi'm tuning everything
21:48.51cncfanaticseven startup scripts :p
21:48.58Fiskerah vhaarr no loot options and such :/
21:49.10uszaccording to what he said, storing 3337 items i got in DB now takes 2.4 mb
21:49.12kergothusz: nice, i wrote a number of scripts for ram usage estimation of tables, used the info from him about the way tables were resized and stuff to estimate ram usage of tables recursively
21:49.13kergothhandy
21:49.21kergothdamn
21:49.26vhaarrFisker: Indeed, they're bloat.
21:49.31vhaarrYou have them in your player menu anyway.
21:49.57uszi dont take exponential resizing into account while calculation this
21:50.16Fiskeronly uncommon->epic
21:50.35kergothi can see if i can find my estimation code if you want, maybe can merge them into something generally useful
21:51.21uszthe only use i had for this is to print a number in database statistics right by side of number of epix and blues etc, so cant see anything usefull coming out from this :)
21:51.53kergothhehe
21:51.56uszanyway i was targetting for speed of searching items rather then packing up them
21:52.17uszbecause i allow ppl to search items by specified stats, like crit, nature resistance etc
21:52.46uszand i sent search queries via comm channel, so i wanted to prevent db lookup to freeze wow client
21:52.59vhaarrFisker: Anyway, please report bugs directly to me on it.
21:53.38Trillhow would you access an addon function via a macro?
21:53.50pastamancerTrill: /script
21:53.50JoshBorke/script <addonfuncgtion>
21:54.04Trillah thats it huh? was thinking it would be more complicated :)
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21:55.27sbuhi there
21:55.40cncfanaticshmmm, my OnUpdate is running is 1.05 ms, very nice :)
21:55.53cncfanaticswld that influence framerate at all if called every 0.5sec ?
21:56.02Mi|esanyone wants to implement lzw or gzip in lua?
21:56.11Mi|esneed something to reduce the cost or CT_RaidTracker
21:56.12nevcairielDoes anyone know whats happend to the Emerald Dream in TBC ? i havent heard about it for a long time now
21:56.12Fiskerfixed groupfu in trunk myself :I
21:56.16uszMi|es, no thanks :)
21:56.24uszbut i bet you can find it somewhere
21:56.53JoshBorkehttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5394-.html
21:57.28uszOo
21:57.46vhaarrFisker: What's wrong with my branch?
21:57.53vhaarrFisker: I don't understand the loot things you mention.
21:57.56vhaarrPlease explain.
21:58.01XuerianCompression? Nifty
21:58.31JoshBorkecncfanatics: change Flexbar2.Model to local _Model = Flexbar2.Model in Flexbar2_Controller.lua
21:58.37Fiskeri use master loot beneath usual tresholds for looting stuff other people doesn't loot
21:58.53cncfanaticsat top of the file ?
21:59.00usznow we only need public key encryption algorythm implemented
21:59.19JoshBorkecncfanatics: yea and replace all mentions of Flexbar2.Model with _Model.  you'll eliminate a table lookup that way
21:59.21uszas TEA is PSK algorythm
21:59.38cncfanaticsdo the same with Controller or not ?
21:59.40cncfanaticsI guess so ?
21:59.43pastamanceruse WoW for DCC-like file sharing :p
22:00.19sbumhhh usz, pub/priv key encryption would be... uhm - overkill?! :p
22:00.31JoshBorkei'm going to use it :-D
22:00.33cncfanaticsye, its just a game -.-
22:00.39JoshBorkewell, not pub/priv
22:00.41JoshBorkejust priv...
22:00.45uszpriv is there
22:00.50sbuhmm priv as in?
22:00.59sbu*thinking*
22:01.00JoshBorkePSK algorithm
22:01.01uszpriv as PSK
22:01.03Fiskerhttp://camarogod93.us/pics/wow4twiw3.gif
22:01.04Fiskerlol
22:01.09uszpre-shared key
22:01.11sbuah iok
22:01.13sbuyep :)
22:01.16sbugot that ;p
22:01.23JoshBorkecncfanatics: yea.  you could do local _Controller = FlexBar2.Controller
22:02.07pastamancerI can see public key crypto being used for a shared calendar
22:02.26JoshBorketable lookups add an extra step.  so every time you do FlexBar2.Controller.<whatever> it has to look for the FlexBar2 table, then the Controller key in the FlexBar2 table, then the final key
22:02.39sbupastamancer: mh but psk should be just fine there
22:02.42cncfanaticshuh ? Controller is nil in my function
22:02.50Fiskerpretty nice addon btw Xuerian
22:02.52cncfanaticseven tho I do local Controller = FlexBar2.Controller; 2 lines above it
22:03.04uszwell i looked for simple to implement public key algos but couldnt find any
22:03.09JoshBorkepastecode your code
22:03.27uszwhile TEA for PSK is extremly simple and pretty strong
22:03.29cncfanaticsnvm, found it :)
22:03.44pastamancersbu: if you have someone relaying data created by someone who is offline, you'd want to be able to verify that it was signed by the original author
22:03.55sbumhh k
22:04.02cncfanaticswee, working
22:04.09JoshBorkecncfanatics: make sense?
22:04.11cncfanaticstnx JoshBorke
22:04.27JoshBorkeif you make that table lookup local, then it only has to do it once
22:04.50cncfanaticsyea, but I made it local before declaring it at all :p
22:05.04JoshBorkei just mean in general
22:05.28JoshBorkelocal references and primitives (numbers) are free on the stack
22:05.57uszarent they still in table?
22:06.24cncfanaticsnice, i'm doing some benchmarks
22:06.26JoshBorkea local table?
22:06.33cncfanaticsflexbar2 makes me lose 0.2 fps atm, on avarage
22:06.37uszcurrent environment table
22:06.47kergothlocals are indices in a numerically indexed table stored in the closure
22:06.55kergoththeir names are lost once its compiled, they're just numbers
22:07.13uszok so O(1) ^^
22:07.18kergothright
22:07.18cncfanaticsbasicly :p
22:07.31cncfanaticsexcept mem references are more like 642134x32
22:07.49kergothhm?
22:08.14cncfanaticscompiled lua code replaces bars with their reference in memory right ?
22:08.15kergothi suggest that anyone who's curious about this stuff play with luac
22:08.21kergothbars?
22:08.46kergothluac -l -p prints out the virtual machine instructions, the compiled lua code
22:08.51kergothyou can see every register access
22:09.03kergothincredibly useful for analyzing code for optimization
22:09.13Mikmadon't listen to him
22:09.16cncfanaticsi'm gonna install WoWbench
22:09.17Mikmahe's too cute
22:09.21cncfanaticslinux compat ?
22:09.26kergothyes
22:09.29kergothjust needs a lua interpreter
22:09.36kergothso install the lua50 rpm or deb
22:09.46cncfanatics5.1 as i use beta ?
22:09.57kergothfor hte interpreter, sure, but wowbench is 5.0
22:10.06kergothyou're welcome to port it forward
22:10.25cncfanaticsbasicly setn and loops with ipairs to change
22:10.31cncfanaticsipairs/pairs
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22:12.51Mikmawobin has a "wobbles" name in wowi? :D
22:13.05weabMikma: that's me
22:13.33Mikmaok then hehe
22:13.39weabconfusing, I know, but i told him months ago wobbles was my nickname! :P
22:13.56Mikmawell now i can call you both wobblers!
22:14.24nymbiais there a way to prevent dewdrop from refreshing all levels of the menu when an item is clicked?
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22:18.49cncfanaticswhats wrong with this tag in my toc ? :/ ## Version: $Rev$
22:19.26uszcncfanatics, maybe you miss keywords on file?
22:19.48cncfanaticseh, keywords ? :p
22:20.01uszdefinitely keywords :)
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22:20.54uszyou need to add keywords on filed like you add externals, there is tag svn:keyword where you can put "Rev" and then revision tag will be parsed properly by svn server
22:21.11cncfanaticsok :)
22:21.30cncfanaticswhat wld I set svn:rev to so it uses my revision number there ?
22:21.46kergothno
22:21.53kergothyou set the svn:keywords property to the value Rev
22:21.55kergothlike he just said
22:21.58kergothnot svn:rev
22:22.10kergothsvk propset svn:keywords Rev foo/libs
22:22.17kergoths/libs/bar.lua/
22:24.11Mikmapastamancer: no release-ish?
22:24.26pastamancerMikma: still at work
22:24.37Mikmapastamancer: okiedokie
22:24.52pastamanceryou'll see a svn commit when I get home :)
22:25.22Mikmaand 24 hours and we will see RDX having a huge "TODO"
22:25.43hasteoh?
22:25.50hastewhy that Mikma?
22:26.15Mikmahaste: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2525.msg57398#msg57398
22:27.32hastewhy would it get a huge todo?
22:27.46Mikmahaste: next post
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22:27.53hasteoh, look, they've ripped the oRA ready check :D
22:27.55nymbiacuz they stole grid ;p
22:28.03cncfanaticsooooh
22:28.13kebinusanIf imitation is a form of flattery the ace community should be turning red from all the attention from the RDX team
22:28.13cncfanaticsAce dsnt work with wowbench :/
22:28.21kebinusanIts kinda sad really, considering RDX charges for releases
22:28.22pastamancerif you actually read the RDX forum post, it doesn't look like they're using the "Raid Grid" to show unit health
22:28.26Sarozlol
22:28.37pastamancerhttp://www.rdx-raid.com/node/686
22:28.48nymbiakebinusan: or asking for a cut of the cash they're pulling in, lol
22:29.13Mikma"The major new features are a few new UnitFrame shaders that allow something I call the Raid Grid"
22:29.16MikmaHAHA
22:29.26nymbiaHAHAHA
22:29.33XuerianYeah
22:29.38pastamancerhttp://www.rdx-raid.com/images/shots/rsw.jpg might look familiar to anyone who uses XRS :p
22:29.41XuerianIt'd be flattery if the "I call" line wasn't htere...
22:29.52Mikmapastamancer: HAHA omfg
22:29.56Mikmathat's so XRS
22:29.56XuerianAt this point, it's a insult as to how poor a implimentation of it is XD
22:30.30XuerianCould it be any more ripped off XD. And Fisker? o.0
22:30.33cncfanaticsERROR: ...rface/AddOns/FlexBar2/Libs/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua:406: attempt to call global `GetAddOnMetadata' (a nil value)
22:30.35cncfanaticsbooo
22:30.54Sarozomfg pastamancer
22:31.05pastamancerseriously
22:31.07Sarozthat low
22:31.10Sarozthat's*
22:31.25pastamancerhttp://www.rdx-raid.com/wiki/images/2/26/Assist_window.jpg (I don't use oRA2, but this looks familiar)
22:31.53cncfanaticsdo they at least recode what they rip ?
22:32.00cncfanaticsor do they just take the code as well ?
22:32.07pastamanceroh, I'm sure the code isn't stolen
22:32.13SarozNever seen that window in ora2
22:32.23cncfanaticsit looks a lot like the MT windows in Ora2
22:32.27Mikmait's PerfectRaidTargets or so?
22:32.28pastamancerVenificus seems to be a big fan of doing everything his way
22:32.45cncfanaticshe shldnt sell his product either way
22:32.57Saroztbh, that's pretty low of RDX
22:33.02Sarozdisrespectful
22:33.46pastamancerhttp://www.rdx-raid.com/images/skein/sort_bars.jpg is kinda interesting.  Using an indicator on the left to show priority
22:34.22cncfanaticsI wonder what he wld do if we stole his idea
22:34.36MikmaC&D propably
22:34.42pastamancerthe real big feature of RDX is actually what it's named for, "raid data exchange"
22:35.11nymbiai posted in the comments of that grid ripoff and linked to the grid thread
22:35.16pastamancerthere's a bunch of comms stuff going on to sync all sorts of information between raid members
22:35.20Saroznice nymbia
22:35.49pastamancerI hope you weren't too nasty.  We shouldn't be looking to lynch anyone.
22:35.50XuerianYou know, you could adopt ckk's mindset about similar things (vs sea/sky/such and ace2), and build off eachother's ideas, though I admit a lot of "raid grid" and "Raid status" are rips.
22:36.03Mikmapastamancer: too bad he already did release his "addon"
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22:36.22nymbiai wasn't too nasty, but i wasn't too polite, either. ;)
22:36.27nymbia"if you're going to 'borrow' concepts, give credit where it's due.
22:36.27nymbia"something I call the Raid Grid"... something YOU call, or something the original author calls?
22:36.28nymbiahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2525.0
22:37.44Fiskeri just like your addon Xuerian that's all :D
22:37.58XuerianFisker:  <3
22:38.51Fisker:P
22:38.54Mikmato be honest i think i have seen that same thing in here somewhere.. "whack a mole"
22:38.59omega_lol, its quite insane that someone tries to make, or makes, money selling wow addons
22:39.02Mikmasomeone did say that about grid
22:39.31pastamancerI still need a good mole icon for the low health alert :p
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22:40.22cncfanaticsaddons shld be forbidden for sale ffs
22:40.22nymbiaxuerian: i'd be all for that, except that this guy's not trying make the best mod he can, he's trying to make money
22:40.48nymbiamikma: no, that's what i posted in RDX's grid ripoff page
22:40.50Mikmapastamancer: http://images.usatoday.com/life/gallery/austin-powers/mole.jpg
22:40.52Xueriannymbia: I wasn't so much suggesting we be nice to him, but systematically strip ideas from rdx and impliment them in our own mods in better fashions
22:41.03cncfanaticsthat'd ruin him
22:41.04Mikmanymbia: i know you posted that but...
22:41.09cncfanaticswhich ain't a bad thing after all
22:41.11nymbiahahaha fair enough xuerian
22:41.15Mikmahttp://www.rdx-raid.com/node/686
22:41.22Mikma"Raid Grid (aka Click the Pretty Lights, Whack-a-Mole, etc.)"
22:41.30nymbiaoh
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22:41.35nymbiaright, i get it now :)
22:41.35Mikmai have seen that "Whack a mole" being used about grid before
22:41.36nymbiasorry
22:41.42XuerianAnd then make sure our addons are publicly and widely released. If he's trying to sell a inferior product that's based on mockerys..... it won't much get him there :p
22:41.43Mikmawhen it was an idea
22:41.59cncfanaticsis there a bars addon in XRS ?
22:42.22Mikmawhat?
22:42.28cncfanaticsRDX* -.-
22:42.43XuerianTo be honest, "Whack-a-mole" is a rather common healing expression, not just fo grid, though =|
22:42.44cncfanaticsis there an actionbar addon in RDX * :) there
22:43.22MikmaXuerian: but the onlytime i have heard it in use was when someone was talking about grid
22:43.35XuerianMikma: Fair enough.
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22:44.27cncfanatics:o , I like the "desktop" thingy in RDX and how it can autoswitch from one encounter to another
22:46.22Mikmapastamancer: http://grza.net/GIS/Mole%20(MOGURA).jpg :)
22:47.26Xueriano.0
22:47.56hasteI just tested KTM!
22:48.19hasteon Ebonroc, and according to it, I was 30k above aggro gain, and on top through the whole fight
22:48.27hasteit "almost" works as inteded
22:48.29cncfanaticsclass , function ?
22:48.33hasterogue, dps?
22:48.35cncfanaticsnever had probs with it -.-
22:48.43omega_haste: everyone need to have it for it to work I think?
22:48.48cncfanaticsidd
22:48.48Mikmahaste: i don't trust any "damage meters" or "threat meters" at all
22:48.55hastelots of people use KTM in my guild
22:48.58Mikmabest meter is to have an BanzaiAlert
22:49.02Mikma"you have aggro!"
22:49.04hasteit's optional, and all tanks uses it
22:49.20Mikmait should be renamed to ePenis
22:49.26MikmaMeasureMyPenis
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22:50.14Fiskeri'm winning on threat!
22:50.38hasteI did win the threatmeter!
22:50.39hasteand dps :3
22:51.07Mikmahaste: shaddup we already know what otravi > damagemeters
22:51.13haste:p
22:51.38kebinusanIm winning at threat!
22:51.43kebinusanheh
22:52.25hastethat comic is nice :D
22:52.32Mikmahaste: damagemeters/ktm is really for players who can't hold their dps
22:52.41Mikmahaste: darklegacy comics?
22:52.45hasteMikma: yes
22:52.53Mikmayes for which?
22:53.12hastefor the last
22:53.33hasteDM can't really be used for a tool to measure threat :p
22:54.12Mikmatrue but i still hate them from bottom of my heart
22:54.12Mikmavery, very much
22:54.21hastehehe
22:54.22cncfanaticsbleh, i'm gonna need help again :(
22:54.30hasteIt's nice to look for slackers tho'
22:54.34hasteor people doing something wrong
22:54.42cncfanaticslocal SpellUsable = (IsUsableAction(ActionID) and IsActionInRange(ActionID) ~= 0 and GetActionCooldown(ActionID) == 0); why ain't this false when an action is on cd ?
22:55.16haste'cause GetActionCoolDown returns more then one var?
22:55.23Mikmahaste: that's ALSO true, but doesnt erase my hate ;)
22:55.36hastehehe
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22:56.51Fiskerhahahaha lol
22:56.52cncfanaticshaste, even when using local ActStart, _, _ = GetActionCooldown this stays true :(
22:57.07Fiskerfor some reason teknicolor_tab just showed the name of everyone over the whole screen
22:57.09Fiskerthat was fun shit
22:59.16Mikma~literal tuplad
22:59.31purl"tuplad" is "<reply> http://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg"
22:59.44arkanesktm is a tool like anything else, it doesn't replace knowing a fights aggro mechanics
23:00.00arkanesbut if you want to optimize DPS you can't do it better than with KTM or a tool like it
23:00.01Mikmapurl: no, tuplad is <reply> (http://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg|http://www.darklegacycomics.com/51.jpg)
23:00.06purlokay, Mikma
23:00.09Mikma~tuplad
23:00.11purlhttp://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg
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23:00.15Mikmathere we go hehe
23:00.30snurre-lawl
23:01.27snurre-http://www.darklegacycomics.com/39.html
23:01.30snurre-is the best, ever
23:01.44Mikmahttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/46.html
23:02.04snurre-hm, rite
23:02.13Mikmathey are both grrrrreat!
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23:07.14Sarozyea
23:08.53hastecncfanatics: print out all the vars in the statement, and check :D ?
23:09.43cncfanaticsbusy doing that haste :p
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23:12.27CIA-1703rabbit * r15875 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Attempt to fix nil error.
23:13.31Mikmathis is awesome http://www.darklegacycomics.com/21.html
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23:28.14nymbiahi ck
23:28.35Sarozzomg
23:28.43Sarozclad interview
23:28.49ckknightman
23:28.54ckknightI had to summon the techs
23:28.58ckknightlousy internet
23:29.13Mikmackknight: 4day channeling :P
23:29.24ckknightwhat do you mean?
23:29.26Mikma(the spell)
23:29.32ckknighthey all, btw
23:29.41Mikmahi boss
23:30.47nymbiaoh, ck, i've got a dewdrop question
23:31.16Xuerian'ey, ck.
23:31.17ckknightk
23:32.02ckknightanyone find any Cartographer bugs yet?
23:32.07nymbiawhen i've got a function defined for a button, is there any way to prevent all the levels of the menu refreshing when that button's clicked?
23:32.20kergothwhat the heck
23:32.23ckknightno, nymbia
23:32.27kergothi just clicked add in closetgnome and it opened my inventory
23:32.28ckknightit's supposed to refresh.
23:32.31kergothhit it again and it closed it
23:32.43kergothdidnt pop up a box asking for the set name
23:33.23nymbiaok, thanks ck :D
23:33.44kergothargh
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23:34.49kergoth[2006/11/03 16:33:05-1314]: ClosetGnome\ClosetGnome.lua:584: AceHook-2.1: Attempt to hook a non-existant function "PaperDollItemSlotButton_OnModifiedClick"
23:36.51XuerianOnModifiedClick is a BC function isn't it?
23:38.02kergothoh good point
23:38.09kergothtime to revert, gotta love tbc stuff on the trunk :)
23:38.33uszkergoth, may i bug you in priv?
23:38.39kergothfeel free
23:39.01haarmpretty sure ClosetGnome has an lua51 variable you could check kergoth, just put a wrapper around that functionality for now ?
23:40.22ckknightfeels like lunchtime
23:40.27ckknightcya all in a bit
23:40.46haarmfeels like bed time :(
23:41.54uszkergoth, i belive you might not be getting my priv messages, even tho i am identified with NS
23:43.18kergothi am, just doing a lot at once :P
23:43.33[Wobin]omg
23:43.34[Wobin]http://neuroxin.com/ljpix/wow4twiw3.gif
23:44.03snurre-legendary :p
23:44.28snurre-one of those pics where you think "should i be appalled or amused?
23:45.02snurre-:(
23:45.08haarmappalled ofc ;)
23:45.19snurre-but.. it's kinda funny
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23:46.06haarmguessing you're the same snurre from kor'gall ;)
23:46.23snurre-yep
23:46.29haarmhow's life in france ?
23:46.49snurre-french
23:47.01haarmyou might as well just say terrible then :p
23:47.05snurre-it's kinda nice
23:47.12snurre-except for the fact that nobody speaks english
23:47.36Mikmame no enlish
23:47.38CIA-1703kergoth * r15876 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: check for lua51 before messing with OnModifiedClick.
23:47.50snurre-parlez-vous anglais?
23:47.52snurre-or something
23:47.54snurre-dunno
23:47.58snurre-i dont speak french
23:47.59haarmmeans I'm going to have to watch what I say now you're working for the enemy ;p
23:48.16snurre-haha
23:48.49AmadeoSo Microsoft is going to start writing apps for Linux or specifically for SuSE? What's this whole collaboration thing about?
23:49.22haarmno doubt they want to charge for them
23:51.54snurre-whatcha doing nowadays anyway, haarm?
23:52.34haarmhanging around IRC channels and being bored
23:52.58haarmstill playing, lost most of my will to do so, hoping i can find some temporary solstice modding again
23:54.53haarmof course i meant solace, not solstice, meh, getting tired
23:56.20Cairennnext batch of names (93) just submitted
23:56.41haarmwhat's that for, mod authors beta keys?
23:57.15haarmquick, someone think of a mod i can make in 5 minutes :D
23:57.24sbumhh xloot is broken
23:57.25[FH]Birdemanigroup fu is tossing errors
23:57.29Mikmahaarm: fix popsicle
23:57.32Xueriansbu: Define broken
23:57.34[FH]Birdemanicannot load more than one local
23:57.50sbu006/11/04 00:07:56-14]: XLootMonitor\XLootMonitor.lua:323: attempt to index local `row' (a nil value)
23:58.04sbuwhen playing in AV
23:58.50haarmbtw, I havn't tried, but can anyone commit to the svn, or I have to apply for an account ?
23:59.36nymbiayou need to ask for an account
23:59.57XuerianEhm, that's rather weird. It either goes self:BuildRow(stack, nextkey) -> id = nextkey -> local row = stack.rows[id] -> row.recipient = recipient, or if stack.rows[i] and not stack.rows[i].item then -> id = i....etc...

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