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00:01.35CIA-1703toadkiller * r15664 10AutoBar/ (10 files):
00:01.35CIA-17AutoBar:
00:01.35CIA-17-Added various Kimchis since they are a delicious food
00:01.35CIA-17-ItemLists are now all based on PeriodicTable except for food which needs some rethinking perhaps.
00:01.36CIA-17-Using getfenv in the lua code now
00:01.36CIA-17-Collapsed racial & special mounts into just mounts
00:01.37CIA-17-Fishing lure gear & poles
00:03.21pastamancer~seen maia
00:03.35purlmaia <n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 3h 48m 56s ago, saying: 'ckknight: thanks, that fixed it'.
00:03.50CIA-1703toadkiller * r15665 10AutoBarConfig/ (3 files):
00:03.50CIA-17AutoBarConfig:
00:03.50CIA-17-Use getfenv instead of getglobal
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00:10.13vhaarrGah, this trash is hard.
00:10.24vhaarrThe trash mobs have are classified as "Boss".
00:10.35vhaarrs/have//
00:12.48Funkeh`really? Oo
00:12.55Funkeh`interesting
00:12.55Mi|esoO
00:13.05Mi|esdo they drop epix?
00:13.08Funkeh`lol
00:13.15sbuwoot? epixs?
00:13.19sbugiev!
00:13.31vhaarrMi|es: While you're here, the raid frames for agUF do not work.
00:13.40Mi|eszomg
00:13.46sbutorrent plz?
00:13.53Mi|esag` broke them :P
00:14.23Mi|es"do not work" as in won't show up / create / etc?
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00:14.53vhaarrMi|es: as in doesn't show up at all
00:15.05vhaarrI have no idea if they are created or not
00:15.10Mi|esbleh
00:16.24Mi|esdoes /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(aUF.units.aUFraid1:GetName()) print something, or indexing nil error?
00:17.00vhaarr[2006/11/01 01:16:47-352]: <string>:"ChatFrame1:AddMessage(aUF.units.aUFraid1:Ge...":1: attempt to index field 'aUFraid1' (a nil value)
00:18.02Mi|esurgh
00:18.44Mi|esoh well, that will have to wait until tomorrow, gotta get some sleep. opened an issue, maybe ag` will take a look at it before I'm home
00:19.00vhaarrI'm going to sleep as well
00:19.05vhaarrat least I got to see mag :P
00:20.57pastamancervhaarr: did they add him in the most recent beta patch?
00:21.11vhaarrpastamancer: How the fuck should I know.
00:21.52vhaarrgah, wiping 30 times on trash mobs when I should've been to sleep already gets me edgy
00:22.31pastamanceryou're talking about magtheridon, right?
00:23.20vhaarrI don't care when he was added.
00:23.40pastamancerI didn't know that there was any raid content in yet
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00:31.12XuerianMi|es: You can just use /print aUF.units.aUFraid1:GetName() :P
00:35.34CIA-1703usz * r15666 10TooltipExchange/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
00:35.34CIA-17TooltipExchange
00:35.34CIA-17- Minor memory usage tweaks
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00:37.06CIA-1703joshborke * r15667 10GuildBook/synchronizer.lua: GuildBook: fixed some sync stuff
00:42.00ag`vhaarr: Mi|es: if you're talking about BC, no, there's no raid units atm
00:42.54ag`Currently there's nothing that controls the creation of raid groups
00:43.03nymbiai think magtheridon is in, actually. not that he's finished or anything, but i'm pretty sure some people have gone in there and tried him
00:43.04ag`anyway I am off to bed
00:43.05ag`nn
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00:57.00CIA-1703jjsheets * r15668 10Jigsaw/ (. Jigsaw.toc JigsawCore.lua JigsawQueue.lua JigsawRecipe.lua): Jigsaw - Bug fixes, added cooldowns (though they are not tested, I'm still a lowbie). Updated Externals with AbacusLib.
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01:07.58Kebinusanhmm http://whereiputmystuff.com/clothes.gif
01:13.40kergoth<keffo> Awesome, gf left a line of vomit, from the bed all the way into the bathroom..
01:13.40kergoth<yome> Too drunk?
01:13.40kergoth<keffo> No, the other kind
01:13.40kergoth<yome> Ah.  Not drunk enough.
01:13.44kergothheh
01:14.47Kirkburnlovely :P
01:16.37kergothrandom shit in #lua
01:16.46kergothnow to continue boring farming
01:19.01CIA-1703devla * r15669 10/branches/MountMe/:
01:19.01CIA-17MountMe: Devla's branch
01:19.01CIA-17-Deleted since Trunk version has been updated
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01:52.20CIA-1703sayclub * r15670 10SacredBuff/ (Locales/koKR.lua SacredBuff.toc):
01:52.20CIA-17SacredBuff:
01:52.20CIA-17* Added koKR localization
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02:33.27clipseownagedoes anyone use agunit frames that could answer a quick question for me?
02:34.15nymbiasure
02:34.55clipseownageOk, i just installed these, and i can't see my party frame.  How do i enable the party frame to show?
02:35.20nymbiatype /aguf config
02:35.26nymbiago to party
02:35.30nymbiaand uncheck the hide options
02:35.43nymbiaerr, unitframes then party rather
02:36.15nymbiathere's also a hide party while in raid option that might be a problem
02:36.25clipseownageok
02:36.32clipseownagei wasn't aware there was a /aguf conig command
02:36.51nymbia:)
02:37.08clipseownageworked like a charm
02:37.11clipseownagethank you very much
02:37.42nymbiano problem
02:37.43clipseownagei didnt see it on the wiki for it is why i came here, thanks again
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03:18.39sylvanaarhello
03:23.18CIA-1703damjau * r15671 10TradeskillInfo/ (RecipeDataLib.lua TradeskillData.lua TradeskillInfo.lua): TradeskillInfo - add recipe data
03:23.38CIA-1703damjau * r15672 10TradeskillInfoUI/TradeskillInfoUI.lua: TradeskillInfoUI - add recipe data
03:26.47CIA-1703sylvanaar * r15673 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (FuBar_RegenFu.toc changelog.txt): FuBar_RegenFu: 2.0.2 For Distribution
03:29.18CIA-1703sylvanaar * r15674 10FuBar_RegenFu/2.0.2/: FuBar_RegenFu: 2.0.2 Release
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03:38.04XLVIIhey
03:38.12XLVIIi'm having trouble figuring out how bigwigs works
03:38.23CIA-1703sayclub * r15675 10AutoBar/Locale-koKR.lua:
03:38.23CIA-17AutoBar:
03:38.23CIA-17- Update koKR
03:38.26XLVIIif i go into aq, will it automatically turn on aq things
03:38.33XLVIIand be able to tell when i go into combat with a boss?
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04:07.10mjchmm
04:07.25mjc~seen cladhaire
04:07.40purlcladhaire <n=zomg_hai@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 5h 8m 24s ago, saying: 'sexy'.
04:07.56XuerianWhat last words.
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04:09.23mjc~seen clad
04:09.29purlclad <i=jnwhiteh@fairfax.dreamhost.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 9h 50m 5s ago, saying: '*cackle*'.
04:09.32mjchaha
04:10.17mjcI guess I'm stuck with poking tekcub then :P
04:10.40XuerianSomething about "Never poke the sleeping bear.." comes to mind >.>
04:10.44mjchaha
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04:12.01Tem~seen cladhaire
04:12.03purlcladhaire <n=zomg_hai@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 5h 12m 47s ago, saying: 'sexy'.
04:12.14Tem~seen clad|away
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04:12.25Temwe have a winner
04:12.29mjcthere he is
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04:27.14mjckergoth: ping
04:27.36kergothmjc: pong
04:28.33sylvanaarwhat dont u get about bigwigs?
04:30.43sylvanaaras an aside, im working on a module based addon which lets remote users query local user's info - generically, anyone else working on something like this?
04:31.09sylvanaarit overlaps with alot of other addon functionality
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05:13.56XLVIII have a request for Bartender, that unused buttons will 'shrink'.
05:16.41CIA-1703nymbia * r15676 10Manufac/ (Manufac-FuBar.lua Manufac.lua Manufac.toc Manufac_frFR.lua):
05:16.41CIA-17Manufac:
05:16.41CIA-17-Added french localization
05:16.41CIA-17-Fixed fubar menu profession clicks error
05:16.42CIA-17-Added line to clarify the need for opening the profession in fubar menu
05:16.42CIA-17-Fixed problems with fubar plugin dropdown anchoring when fubar is not loaded
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05:55.21CIA-1703tekkub * r15677 10Rawr/ (Core.lua Rawr.toc): Rawr! - Tweaks to make shapeshift forms have proper sounds
05:55.44CIA-1703tekkub * r15678 10Rawr/ (Libs/ Rawr.toc): Rawr - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)
05:57.14otravihttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5554-Auto_Ready.html << shrugs...
06:06.04Tekkubr15678 ^^
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06:08.13otravihehe
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06:19.25CIA-1703sylvanaar * r15679 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (FuBar_Regen.lua FuBar_RegenLocal-enUS.lua): FuBar_RegenFu:Cleanup options
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06:28.43sylvanaari asked this the other day, is there a way to commit that wont generate a zip?
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06:30.16sylvanaarfor things like development on a side branch etx
06:36.32KebinusanBranches wont create zips, and sometimes zips will get messed up if there are commits too close together, it screws up grabbing externals... thats about it
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06:41.46sylvanaarthey used to create a zip like this *rxxxxx<branch>
06:42.58KebinusanThraes thing did branches but the current zip script does not, I guess the thought is that if you want something from a branch grab it with svn access.  Things in trunk are generally considered stable enough to zip up
06:43.49sylvanaaryeah - that sounds like how it should work - let me try
06:45.46CIA-1703sylvanaar 07ShouldNotBeAZip * r15680 10FuBar_RegenFu/: FuBar_RegenFu:Does the zip script make zips on branches still?
06:47.06sylvanaaryuck
06:47.37sylvanaarit makes a zip with the current version, and in the zip is a subfolder with the branch
06:49.01sylvanaarwait - no, the folder contains tags
06:50.01sylvanaarcan someone sanity check me?
06:50.08CIA-1703nymbia * r15681 10Manufac/ (Manufac-enUS.lua Manufac.lua Manufac_frFR.lua):
06:50.08CIA-17Manufac:
06:50.08CIA-17-added option to disable fubar plugin (better solution than deleting the file, eh?)
06:50.09CIA-17-added prints to options without
06:50.09CIA-17-added refreshing of the top-most menus due to inventory updates. lower down (the list of all recipes in a category) will still not, due to cpu usage concerns. TRADESKILL_UPDATE fires a lot. :(
06:50.40Kebinusanwow huge commit note
06:50.52sylvanaarcreate a tag of the head of one of the trunk addons
06:50.52nymbiahaha, sorry ;)
06:52.41nymbiasylvanaar: well there's no zip of 15680, isnt that proof enough?
06:52.58KebinusanManufac a tradeskill creation thingy?
06:53.03nymbiayeah
06:53.04sylvanaarnymbia: yes, but i am talking about another bug I just noticed
06:53.57Kebinusanoh yeah I was going to check that out
06:54.07Kebinusanits like enhanced tradeskill frame but as a dewdrop menu right?
06:54.12nymbiayup
06:54.29sylvanaarnymbia: I tagged my release earlier and it seems to now get included in the zip
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06:56.28AKXCan someone give me a link to the engb BC beta?
06:56.28nymbiawhich one was the tag?
06:56.28sylvanaar2.0.2
06:56.49sylvanaar15674
06:57.00nymbiahuh
06:57.23nymbiai'll put up a tag, one sec
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06:58.39sylvanaarhmm...maybe it was a typo
06:59.02dreftanyone know if PerfectFramePool-2.0 exists on the svn or elsewhere?
06:59.13dreftit has api docs up at the wiki, but i cant find the actual library
07:00.10CIA-1703sylvanaar * r15682 10FuBar_RegenFu/2.0.2/: FuBar_RegenFu: Duh
07:00.50CIA-1703nymbia * r15683 10/tags/Manufac/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Manufac: PLEASEDONTZIPTHIS
07:00.51nymbialets see
07:01.04sylvanaarit was a typo, my bad
07:01.31sylvanaarnymbia: thanks for the sanity check tho
07:01.40nymbiano problem :)
07:20.36CIA-1703totalpackage * r15684 10SlowYourRole/ (. SlowYourRole.lua SlowYourRole.toc):
07:20.36CIA-17SlowYourRole: initial commit
07:20.36CIA-17- Reduce some OnUpdate processing by the default UI
07:21.42nymbiathat sounds fun
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07:26.30CIA-1703totalpackage * r15685 10SlowYourRole/:
07:26.30CIA-17SlowYourRole
07:26.30CIA-17- Initial commit
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08:12.35[Wobin]WIN
08:12.36[Wobin]http://www.knitemare.org/cats/voices.jpg
08:12.48[Wobin]And in other news: http://www.knitemare.org/cats/
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08:20.59Sun\Netheris there a kcitems/itemsync clone for BC ?
08:21.17GreywindWobin: aww i wants a kitties
08:21.30Greywindtoo bad ims allergics :(
08:22.01Greywindbleh I hate vim
08:22.27Greywindany other command line text editor with syntax highlighting?
08:23.07Greywindheadless servers 4tl :P
08:24.55[Wobin]I'm pretty much a vim boy =P
08:25.02[Wobin]can't suggest anything else =P
08:25.07[Wobin]I guess there's emacs
08:27.38Teminsert emacs reference here
08:33.27krkaGreywind: emacs?
08:33.54Greywind*sigh* I thought you all would say that
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08:37.05Kebinusanheh http://www.flash-gear.com/8/
08:37.16XLVIIDoes anyone have pics of the Druid Tier 4?
08:37.52Kebinusanlook on furry sites
08:37.55[Wobin]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoOAgX3qH1E
08:42.51Kebinusannice wobin
08:43.03[Wobin]-very- well planned =)
08:43.51Kebinusanonly on an rp server
08:46.55[Wobin]~13*5
08:47.00purl65
08:53.53CIA-1703sylvanaar * r15688 10/branches/Interview/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Interview: Initial
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09:02.22CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15689 10Interview/Interview.lua: Interview: version
09:05.33Greywindomg I love vim! I feel so stupid for not reading the tutorials first >.<
09:07.17CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15690 10Interview/Interview.toc: Interview: rev
09:07.39omega__haha
09:08.27[Wobin]muhahahah
09:11.01gngsk|what's funny? Greywind or sylvanaar?
09:11.39[Wobin]Grey =)
09:12.04Gngskawww, I thought sylvanaar's commit messages were pretty funny
09:15.10CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15691 10Interview/Interview.toc: Interview: wcr
09:15.20Gngsklololol
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09:22.21manubhi guys, can someone suggest me an addon that gives timestamp to chat and one who enable mouse scrolling? thanks :)
09:23.26Silviu-Prat\
09:23.29Silviu-Prat
09:23.34sylvanaarmaking fun of me?
09:23.55Gngsknah, the lols were just me being stupid :p
09:24.05sylvanaarlies!
09:24.10Gngskhaha
09:26.39omega__whats Interview?
09:30.39weabthose are pretty crappy commit messages
09:36.45Meiun_what is
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09:57.19sylvanaarmkay
09:57.38sylvanaarits not in the trunk
09:58.00sylvanaarso idc about the commit messages =P
09:58.59sylvanaaromega__: its a modular framework for information exchange with no specific purpose
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10:20.17Gngsk:D
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10:26.28cncfanaticsgood morning :)
10:26.53phybermorning.
10:27.29sylvanaarmorning
10:29.11phyberwow, i like getting to work and being given cookies.
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10:31.50sylvanaarwhat kind?
10:32.35phyberchoc chip.
10:34.46Lariclo ppl
10:36.39CIA-1703nymbia * r15693 10Manufac/Manufac.lua:
10:36.40CIA-17Manufac:
10:36.40CIA-17- Added craftable mats dropdowns (see forum thread, reply 50)
10:36.49nymbiak, naptime.
10:37.12Laricin acehook 2.1.. is there any point in not using securehook?
10:38.11cncfanaticsyes Laric
10:38.18cncfanaticsif u don't always have to call the hooked function
10:38.25cncfanaticsor if u call the hooked function in conditionals
10:38.36cncfanaticsor if your code must execute before the hooked function
10:38.41Laricok
10:38.54Laricsecure hooked execute after the hooked function?
10:39.11Laric[Ammo] you there?
10:39.13nymbia|sleepyeah, has to
10:39.24Laricok that cleared it up for me.. thanks
10:40.51cncfanaticsyes
10:40.51cncfanaticsbtw: 2.0.0 released today ? (TBC beta servers ofc)
10:40.51cncfanaticsnp :p
10:41.25Laricargh..
10:41.34Laricgimme key plix :P :P
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10:48.11cncfanaticsI heard rumours that open beta should start in a month or something, so be patient :p
10:49.26LaricI am trying to be patient
10:49.32Laricreally hard :P
10:51.23Laricnot very easy when you get reminded every night.. 15 of the 50 in our raid group is in the beta :(
10:51.31cncfanaticsoh hehe
10:51.36cncfanatics2 ppl in our guild are in beta :p
10:51.39cncfanaticsme &  a druid meta
10:52.12FryGuy"open" beta as in everyone?
10:52.34FryGuyi thought they weren't doing that for bc
10:52.41Laricbut I am not too intrested in the new content... I will see that on release.. I want the new engine to fool around with the new lua 5.1 interfaces
10:53.08cncfanaticssame Laric, i'm still 60 in the beta :p
10:53.14cncfanaticsFryGuy, as I said, they're rumours
10:53.57Laricin the summer they were quite adamant that there would be no open beta
10:54.02cncfanaticsbtw: is it only me or the Talk:Svn_rules wiki page bugged ?
10:54.28Laric~seen [Ammo]
10:54.44purl[ammo] is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: '~'.
10:55.10Laricargh.. when did he say it purl
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11:06.39sbu'morning
11:07.39Mi|es~seen ag`
11:07.47purlag` is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'nn'.
11:08.00Mi|esorly
11:09.35Laricsince when doesnt purl say how long ago they said it?
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11:22.10cncfanaticsit only says it when the user leaves the chan
11:25.56phyberLaric: you can just whois them to get idle time anyway
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11:33.52Royalneed addon that kills everyone who uses the Trivia bot in main city /say. asap
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11:35.25RoyalYes well, it's a different newbie every hour, and different players as well :(
11:35.38RoyalWish the addon maker would remove /say and force them to a custom channel or smth
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11:43.55QuantuvisRoyal, some guy started it in Trade on our realm yesterday :((
11:45.13phyberRoyal: those fuckers clogging up your IF mailboxes too?
11:45.30RoyalJust the chat :P
11:45.34CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15694 10Interview/ (. Interview.toc Tests/Simple.lua): Interview: Added framerate, updated external
11:45.36phyberreally, asshats on Bloodhoof EU sit on top of that mailbox outside the bank and run it there.
11:45.46RoyalYeah, really annoying
11:46.07abbat_wheh, yep ;)
11:47.06sbumhh
11:47.09sbuWTB fubar1 textures in fubar2 :p
11:47.18sbu(that black with yellow border thing)
11:47.48uszsbu, dont you use FuTextures for FB2?
11:47.55sbuhm
11:47.58sbuwtf
11:47.59sbuwait
11:48.00sbu:)
11:48.02usz^^
11:48.16sbuoops
11:48.17sbu:)
11:48.19sbunevermind
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11:49.16Mikmai'm always making a ticket about triviabotters
11:49.51phyberMikma: what replies do you get from them?
11:49.54sbuhmm and what happens?
11:49.58sbuthey log in and play trivia?
11:50.14Mikmaphyber:  ingame mail with default crap
11:50.20phybermeh.
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11:52.36cncfanaticsgrrrr
11:52.48cncfanatics2mb left to download of this fucking patch and now my downrate is 0kb/s
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12:09.57sylvanaarim trying to write a mod to replace the 'lets dump this functionality into bigwigs/fubar', need a good example module
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12:12.06[Ammo]sylvanaar: screenies?
12:14.00[Ammo]nvm
12:14.09[Ammo]just read the code
12:14.18sylvanaarno ui, not meant to have one of its own - just lets you query for supported data, like bigwigs version check
12:16.14sylvanaarlots of mods seem to so this for some subset of data - so i figured i'd see if doing it in a modular fasion makes sense
12:16.17[Ammo]someone complaining BigWigs_CThunAssist uses more mem than CThunWarner
12:16.17[Ammo]grr
12:16.30axxohaha
12:16.49[Ammo]but what's the point of your addon then?
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12:19.12[Wobin]Woohoo!
12:19.14[Wobin]Ossirian down!
12:19.16sylvanaarits a framwework, the modules provide the data , but it manages the modules
12:19.47sylvanaari stole alot of code from bigwigs
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12:19.52[Ammo]yeah ok, but what's the point, except learning how it works :)
12:19.57[Ammo]you stole wrong btw :p
12:20.05[Ammo]setting blah.core should be done via the modulePrototype
12:20.11[Ammo]learn to use the moduleProtype :p
12:20.45sylvanaar=)
12:21.05[Ammo]oh you do it in the prototype as well
12:21.08[Ammo]ohwell
12:21.15[Ammo]anyway, question remains, what's the point :)
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12:21.51sylvanaarThe point: getting information from other players
12:22.37[Ammo]ok
12:22.51[Ammo]call it SpyBot :p
12:22.53[Ammo]or just FemBot
12:23.41sylvanaarCT_Raid does this kind of stuff
12:24.18[Ammo]I know what CTRA does, I wrote oRA2 :p
12:24.30[Wobin]And it only took us six months =P
12:24.53[Ammo]shrug
12:25.06[Ammo]oRA1 worked 1 month after the idea was raised to write a compatible thing
12:25.12[Ammo]oRA2 worked pretty fast as well
12:25.17[Ammo]but people keep requesting stupid stuff
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12:25.32sylvanaarthis covers the 'stupid stuff'
12:25.39sylvanaarinnervate cooldowns
12:25.41sylvanaaretc
12:25.56[Ammo]remind me not to install it then :p
12:26.13sylvanaar</3
12:26.15axxothose cooldown are usefull!
12:26.19[Ammo]they are not
12:26.28[Ammo]they are not long enough to be useful
12:26.54sylvanaarbut - if you want to know - you can find out - and it doesnt have to be in CTRA or oRA
12:27.11sylvanaarby any measure - that should be a good thing to you
12:27.29[Ammo]not really
12:28.07sylvanaarok
12:28.17[Ammo]as in, I'm a pretty conservative person
12:28.28[Ammo]say no first, you can always say ok maybe later on
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12:29.22sylvanaarwell - its a concept, input in appreciated
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12:29.59[Ammo]the concept can work, but requires a large enough userbase
12:30.21[Ammo]that userbase is exactly the reason why oRA2 works, it's compatible with the large CTRA userbase
12:30.38[Ammo]on a communication level
12:32.29Funkeh`hey :)
12:32.33sylvanaarright, there are alot of addons that provide info on certain things provided everyone is running it - the concept was to collect them all into one (sort of)
12:33.03Frittibut why not make it a library then to be included in oRA2 et al?
12:33.27[Ammo]that library is already there, it's called AceComm
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12:34.04Frittiof course, I don't know if there's some sense in abstracting another layer and making specific API for querying cooldowns / resistances etc
12:34.28Frittibut making it an addon sounds wrong
12:34.41[Ammo]there is an 'API' it's defined by CTRA
12:34.54otraviI wouldn't use the word "API" there :p
12:35.02[Ammo]tried talking with Cide to get a proper API going
12:35.05[Ammo]for raid comm
12:35.09[Ammo]but he shut the door
12:35.17otraviand went emo
12:35.23Frittitalk to him when oRA2 userbase > CTRA :)
12:35.34otraviThat's exactly why he went emo
12:35.46uszwont be soon, but raiders mostly trashed CTRA_BossMods in favor of BigWigs already ^^
12:36.03axxoidd, on my realm almost everyone converted
12:36.07otraviBlizzard also helps when it comes to killing CTRA
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12:36.18Funkeh`i think you underestimate how large the oRA2 userbase is ;p
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12:36.34[Ammo]the oRA2 userbase isn't large
12:36.38otraviCompared to the CTRA and RDX, not very large
12:36.48[Ammo]it's not even near CTRA and RDX indeed
12:36.52[Ammo]but I don't care about that either
12:36.56Funkeh`actually you will find a lot of the top guilds use it, not rdx
12:36.57axxodepends what category of players
12:37.01FrittiI was joking, note the smiley :)
12:37.15otravismileys are abused on irc :)
12:37.20Frittiare they? :)
12:37.24uszmy guild is quite Aced, but its not common to use ace2 solutions
12:37.26Frittinever noticed ^_^
12:37.41otravimy guild is very "ace'd"
12:37.54Kaeltenmy guild is... wait I don't have a guild
12:37.54otraviaround 95% run Bigwigs and oRA
12:37.56Funkeh`haha, new PTR guild name, 'Ace'd'
12:38.01IndustrialKaelten: heh :P
12:38.07IndustrialThis would make sense to me; A onebag style window with on top a count of
12:38.08Industrialhowmany free slots there are, with an empty slot to drag things on (like any
12:38.08Industrialempty slot would work). Below that a listing of the categories. Those
12:38.08Industrialcategories could be collapsed much like FuBar_Quests does this. Heres an
12:38.13Industrialcrap
12:38.20otravi:D
12:38.21uszOo
12:38.29Industrial(yeah I just posted that)
12:38.44Arrowmastermy guild..... fucking fails at even keeping mods uptodate when another guild member keeps a zip of updated required mods updated for them
12:38.50KaeltenI have a lot of ideas :)  just havn't had time to do them yet :)
12:38.56sylvanaarArrowmaster: same
12:39.00[Ammo]my guild has 10 oRA2 users, and usually 40/40 bigwigs
12:39.07[Ammo]in a typical raid
12:39.15IndustrialKaelten: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2874.0
12:39.18[Ammo]which is fine by me
12:39.35Arrowmasteri think we might still have somebody using a 8xxx revision of bigwigs
12:39.48Funkeh`my guild is 20 oRA2 users 20~ BigWigs, i keep them up-to-date by showing off the usefull ness of WAU when used each day before logon
12:39.57sylvanaari think our MT runs one aroun 9xxx
12:40.17Funkeh`3 clicks up-to-date, you dont get that with curse ;p
12:40.53sylvanaarWAU before raids? disaster
12:40.55uszwe managed to teach ppl to update BW often and if they still fail to do so, we require them to update in order to prevent sync problems
12:41.09uszbeware of WAU ^^
12:41.15Funkeh`sylvanaar: sometimes :PP
12:41.32KaeltenAwaygotta run guys :)
12:41.33Arrowmasteryou wont believe how 'happy' i was to find out that all our our tanks in bwl one night were just using *my* bigwigs raidwarnings to know when the wingbuffets were on the drakes
12:41.36KaeltenAwayI'll try to be on tonigh
12:41.36uszits awesome, untill you get external problems and ppl come to here to report broken addons ^^
12:41.37Funkeh`but i normally find a solution/quick fix if something bad happens, which sint all that often tbh
12:41.37KaeltenAwayt
12:41.56Arrowmasteri found out after i had a lag spike right as a wingbuffet was about to go off
12:41.56JoshBork1bye KaeltenAway
12:42.24sylvanaarif an addon causes any difficulty whatsoever 1/2 the guild removes it
12:42.35Funkeh`lol :P
12:42.56Funkeh`its quite different for me, when i log ill gets 25 whispers ZOMG MYZ ADDON ZE BROKEN
12:43.11otraviPeople are afraid to ask me questions
12:43.20otraviNot idea why :(
12:43.24otravis/t//
12:43.42Arrowmasterlol
12:45.21sylvanaarotravi: they dont want to appear stupid =P
12:46.13otravihehe
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12:47.33sylvanaarmaybe another way to describe my intent is 'a place to put the respond-only versions of various addons' /shrug
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12:48.30zoktaris there a way to get fubar bottompanel transparent and toppanel "not transparent" ?
12:48.37Frittisylvanaar: yes I understand the intent, but I think what [Ammo] needs convincing of is Yet Another New Module to do that; I mean for the other functions of oRA2 or the like you'd want oRA anyway
12:49.03FrittiI don't see a real need to put it in a separate addon actually, what's "wrong" / "bad" / etc about the current implementation
12:49.15sylvanaarFritti: yeah...ironically thats the problem its trying to solve
12:49.30Frittino but really, when do you need *only* the reporting functions?
12:49.41FrittiI'd say never?
12:50.02Frittiso then it becomes yet another dependency, and that's bad
12:50.29FrittiI guess I'm waiting for a usecase :)
12:50.50sylvanaarFritti: if you dont look at the data, you dont need reporting - you just want to relay data back
12:51.10Frittiyes of course
12:51.48Frittiwhat I understand is that you have in mind that I'm just a raid participant and my leader wants a +FR check
12:51.53sylvanaarFritti: and if you have 10 addons which need data relayed - you can put 10 modules into this one.
12:52.26Frittisure. my point is, there's usually other functions from those addons that users actually use. so they need to install the other addons anyawy
12:52.33Frittiie oRA2 -> maintanks etc
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12:54.04Frittianyway I guess the proof will be in the code, so go ahead and make it and I'll see whether my scepticism was justified
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13:05.33cncfanaticsanyone here running WoW on linux with wine ?
13:05.59phyberi think a few people do.
13:06.20cncfanaticsi'm having problems with updating wow :/
13:06.34otraviWorked fine here
13:06.34cncfanatics"Sorry, the installer was unable to start up. You may be out of hard drive space."
13:06.53cncfanaticsanyone had that before ? (btw, live works fine, its TBC beta)
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13:07.15otravicncfanatics: If you experience this, you need to open regedit(wine regedit) and change the following values: TEMP value needs to be set to \ instead of f:\ or whatever it's set for yours. TMP also needs to be set to the same value. These settings can located in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Environment
13:07.45cncfanaticslemme first update to wine 0.9.24
13:07.56otraviI used wine 0.9.22 when I installed TBC
13:08.02cncfanatics:o
13:08.10cncfanaticswine 0.9.24 doesn't run wow at all lol
13:08.11otraviwith the install crash fix (ie. windows DLLs)
13:08.26cncfanaticsdowngrading to 0.9.23, sigh
13:08.27otravi0.9.23 works fine, with the WoW patch
13:09.28KirkburnVista also has some problems with WoW :/
13:10.05otraviThat's Vista
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13:10.21cncfanaticsotravi
13:10.25otravicncfanatics
13:10.31KirkburnKirkburn
13:10.36otraviKirkburn
13:10.42cncfanaticsI don't have Environment in HKEY_CURRENT_USER
13:10.46cncfanaticscreate it ?
13:10.53otravino idea :D
13:11.01otraviIt's here on my wine at least
13:11.03KirkburnWoW needs reg keys?
13:11.16cncfanaticsbleh, look at ur register and send me a screenshot on what vars to setup please ?
13:11.20cncfanaticsi'll mimic urs
13:11.29cncfanaticsthats for on linux, Kirkburn, no idea for vista
13:12.02KirkburnI meant XP anyway :P
13:12.39cncfanaticsshld work out of the box for XP
13:13.06otraviIf I had been on the computer I used when I installed TBC, sure
13:13.21cncfanaticsbah :/
13:13.37cncfanaticswell,tnx anyway, I need to go clean up the fucking garden
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13:15.42Azurewrathmhm.. anyone know if nimbal hangs around in iRC?
13:16.30otravicncfanatics: You can do what I did on another computer, I installed it over the network with Windows and samba :p
13:16.40packetlss~seen nimbal
13:17.04purlnimbal <n=Nimbal@p5488D71B.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14d 18h 31m 25s ago, saying: 'Does anyone know how to prevent FontString objects from scaling when their parent's SetScale is called? FontSize doesn't change, GetHeight() outputs aren't promising neither. :-/'.
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13:17.35Azurewrathpacketlss: ok ok.. my bad ;)
13:20.14otravigod
13:20.23otraviA warrior dual wielding Thunderfurry
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13:20.39otravis/rr/r/
13:20.41axxolofl
13:20.43otravifails :(
13:20.55otraviI wish purl could read my mind when I'm tired
13:21.01otraviso it fixed the correct parts :p
13:21.13axxol2regex
13:21.20otraviaxxo: he doesn't like them
13:21.34otravis/e.$//
13:21.37otravi:(
13:21.50axxo:(
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13:23.18purleternally777 <n=justin@pool-72-70-163-17.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14h 33m 31s ago, saying: 'I'm going out, talk to you guys later.'.
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13:29.14cncfanaticsotravi
13:29.23cncfanaticswhat did I have to set my temp folder to again ?
13:29.28cncfanaticsits set to c:\windows\temp atm
13:29.41otraviI set it to my Linuxs temp dir
13:29.52otraviso Z:\tmp or whatever it was
13:30.08Legiondoh no krtek in here :(
13:31.29otravihttp://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_110106_142614.png << Trying to get some alliance to actually check that out
13:31.51cncfanaticsi'm still getting that error :/*
13:32.52grollotravi what is that blue line just on top of oskin?
13:33.02otravigroll: FuXPFu
13:33.08grollthanks :)
13:33.12cncfanaticsotravi, any idea what else it may be ?
13:33.25otravicncfanatics: nope
13:33.29cncfanaticsargh
13:33.35otravitry to change your WoW installations directory
13:33.47cncfanaticsthink i'll just make it install through samba
13:33.52otraviI managed to install TBC from a 650MHz, so it shouldn't be a lot of problems :p
13:34.15cncfanaticshmmm, I got a better idea, i'll just boot up my XP that I keep for needs
13:34.20cncfanaticsand use the ext3 driver
13:34.29cncfanaticsback when its installed, cya :p
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13:34.38evlAnyone tried this SlowYourRole? :)
13:34.55axxootravi: what realm?
13:34.59phyberotravi: Thunderfury is unique.
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13:35.04otraviphyber: I know
13:35.13otraviI got an alliance to inspect it
13:35.18otravis/it/him/
13:35.28otravihe doesn't have a main-hand equiped
13:35.50phyberah.  silly bug :)
13:36.40axxofun bug :)
13:37.03otraviI killed him now
13:37.12otravibut only one TF now :p
13:38.01phyberpoor guy, you ganked him on the steps? :p
13:38.14otraviIt was requested
13:38.18phyberhehe
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13:40.53cncfanaticsI get the exact same error under windows FFS
13:41.01cncfanaticsso either the file is corrupt, either my TBC install is
13:41.20[Ammo]you got the right file?
13:41.32otravihow much free space do you have on the WoW disc?
13:41.32[Ammo]as in not enUS but enGB
13:41.48[Ammo]because yes, there is a difference :)
13:41.57cncfanaticsenGB yes
13:42.04cncfanaticsboth my TBC install & the patch
13:42.05otraviMy install is 7.2GB
13:42.14cncfanatics120GB otravi
13:42.20[Ammo]it's fucking huge indeed
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13:42.42[Ammo]I just installed the 355M update as well
13:42.49cncfanaticsthats the one I got probs with
13:42.51cncfanaticsit won't install
13:43.02cncfanaticsany direct download link to it ?
13:43.08cncfanaticsi'm guessing the update exec is corrupt
13:43.09[Ammo]nope, sorry
13:43.13[Ammo]delete it
13:43.16[Ammo]or rename it
13:43.19[Ammo]and download again
13:43.57cncfanatics(now I got to unzip my freshly zipped TBC installer again, sigh, takes ages)
13:44.05otravihaste@Midkemia /games/wow $ du -sh
13:44.06otravi24G     .
13:44.07otraviouch
13:44.14[Ammo]hehe
13:44.38otravi716MB of screenshots
13:44.42[Ammo]7.1G TBC
13:44.50cncfanaticslemme check how much wow & TBC take togetehr atm
13:44.54cncfanatics11gig
13:44.56cncfanaticscheers
13:45.06cncfanaticsand to think I got everything out of the internet :/
13:45.10otravi598 screenshots compressed in PNG
13:45.29[Ammo]lucky I am my own boss, if any of my employees would put 11G wow in their PC at work I'd be pissed
13:45.40cncfanaticsi'm on my own comp :)=
13:46.07cncfanaticslemme check how much my home folder takes hmm
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13:46.16cncfanatics15gig :p
13:46.33otravidoing the same
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13:47.06axxoonly 7.10gb here
13:47.16axxohow the hell do you get to 24 otravi ?
13:47.22axxodid you keep every single patch?
13:47.36cncfanaticsI do axxo, dunno for otravi :p
13:47.36otraviaxxo: english + french + german client
13:47.49cncfanaticsI rather use disk space then bandwith tbh :/
13:48.06otraviMy home directory is 291GB
13:48.20cncfanaticsomfg :p
13:48.24otraviGuess it's the anime taking up space
13:48.34cncfanaticsoh hehe
13:48.47cncfanaticsI lost all my naruto episodes a while ago :p
13:48.58otraviThat's a positive thing I guess
13:49.09cncfanaticsidd
13:49.11otravias Naruto is only flashbacks and fillers
13:49.19otravi190GB is anime
13:49.22Industrialnaruto = crap
13:49.29cncfanaticsnaruto is quite good, but bleach owns it
13:49.30Industrialwas gun until 60
13:49.35Industrialfun*
13:49.43otraviI stopped watching naruto at 77
13:49.50otravistarted at 2<something>
13:50.03Industrialwatching Hajime No Ippo atm
13:50.05Mikmaotravi: omg u suxx
13:50.11otraviIndustrial: watched NHK yet?
13:50.14Industrialnoes
13:50.48Industrialhttp://www.torrentz.com/search_nhk ?
13:51.01[Ammo]Mikma: omg u suxx harder
13:51.16otraviIndustrial: Oyasumi is the most propper subs you can get of it
13:51.25Industrialotravi: k
13:51.28otraviIndustrial: http://www.tokyotosho.com/ << you might want that site also
13:51.36Industrial[Ammo]: where do you live? nice weather in amsterdam atm
13:51.42cncfanaticsdattebayo has the highest quality subs imo
13:51.46cncfanaticsand the most friendly staff, ahem
13:52.00[Ammo]Enschede
13:52.02otravicncfanatics: ANBU has some of the best subs there is
13:52.07otravi[Ammo]: I've been there actually!
13:52.16[Ammo]haha
13:52.25cncfanaticsotravi, link ? :p
13:52.29[Ammo]when, and why wasn't I notified :p
13:53.10otraviFirst time I was there was 8 years ago
13:53.23[Ammo]visiting what and why btw? :)
13:53.30otraviand every year after that until two years ago
13:53.33cncfanaticshmmm, azureus refuses to launch, ffs
13:53.43[Ammo]l2internet cnc
13:53.51cncfanaticsI hate google :p
13:53.56otraviah, my sister studied "something I don't know what's called in english, but you might be able to guess it anyway" there
13:54.11Mikma[Ammo]: no i don't :( otravi suxx
13:54.20[Ammo]otravi: at university of twente?
13:54.42otraviI wild english guess is: physiotherapy
13:54.47[Ammo]hehe
13:54.54otravi*googles*
13:55.56cncfanaticshmmm, seems my java install is *also* corrupt
13:56.01cncfanaticsi'm getting way too many corrupt stuff
13:56.07cncfanaticsstarting to wonder if my hard disks are ok
13:56.13otravicncfanatics: time to do a disc check
13:56.17cncfanaticsyea
13:56.46cncfanaticsor my networking card
13:56.52cncfanaticsas I get everything from internet
13:57.50Industrial[Ammo]: ah I have family in Hengelo
13:58.40[Ammo]I was born in IJmuiden, came to Enschede to study in 1995
13:59.51Industrialk
14:00.02Industrialotravi: queued 1-16
14:00.25otraviIndustrial: hehe
14:00.59Industrialits nice when you can get consecutive episodes so you dont have crap missing
14:01.00Industrial:>
14:01.28Industrialdownload watch complete burn repeat
14:01.40Industrial\o/
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14:07.37nevcairielhello
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14:08.09nevcairieli have a problem with the devtools, it always errors on /dump, something with AL-2.1 .. anyone know about that or even better howto avoid that?
14:09.27JoshBorkedon't user AL-2.1? ^_^
14:10.09Laric[Ammo] there?
14:10.16nevcairielsome addon i use, use it
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14:12.28JoshBorkewhat error?
14:14.20nevcairielAL thinks i try to access some translation
14:14.26nevcairieland errors that it doesnt exist
14:14.28nevcairielstupid thing
14:14.49JoshBorkei'd say let Iriel know (it has to do with meta-table stuff it seems)
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14:17.12[Ammo]Laric: I'm here
14:17.33nevcairielfor some reason, the error disappeared now
14:17.35nevcairieli am confused
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14:19.27MikmaTekkub: you here?
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14:19.42nevcairielnow there is that thing about libs, OneView uses OneStorage-2.0, which uses AceLocale-2.1, i dont think it would be "clean" to change the deps of OneStorage to 2.2 without changing the major of OneStorage
14:19.45Mikmaor kergoth?
14:23.21[Ammo]if only I wasn't so lazy in writing documentatin
14:23.34zoktaris there an ace alternative map addon ?
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14:24.34Industrialnevcairiel: dont worry about libs
14:24.43Industrialnevcairiel: its not your job to change and update them
14:25.08Industrialnevcairiel: Actually theres only a good reason for the author to change it if he sees benefits in it
14:25.18Industrials/theres/it's/
14:26.29nevcairielIndustrial: its the last thing i have which actually uses AL-2.1
14:26.33nevcairieland i want to get rid of it
14:26.34nevcairiel:(
14:26.51Laric[Ammo] there now?
14:27.09[Ammo]almost always
14:27.15nevcairieli have some other funny problem with Frames tho, i setpoint them to BOTTOMLEFT but for some reason they change to TOPLEFT on some occasions
14:27.19nevcairieldont ask me why.
14:27.33Laric[Ammo] is it possible to request keybindings for ora2 to target pt's and mt's?
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14:27.52[Ammo]Laric: did you update your oRA2 recently?
14:27.57[Ammo]oh wait..
14:28.03Laricyes I did :P
14:28.03[Ammo]keybindings for targetting them or assisting them?
14:28.08Larictargetting them
14:28.19Laricas I am playing a healer :P
14:28.20[Ammo]there's already a bloody long list atm with keybindings
14:28.54Laricyes and we all love you for it... now make it longer :P
14:28.58[Ammo]ugh
14:29.04[Ammo]it's ugly too
14:29.21[Ammo]and requires more coding, I hate more coding :p
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14:29.39Funkeh`lies, ammo loves adding new features, keep suggesting more
14:30.12Laricyou live for coding ammo
14:30.45CIA-1703nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r15697 10DreamChat/DreamChat/ (Core.lua DreamChat.xml DreamChat_FrameClass.lua): DreamChat: funny workaround for the frame growing down problem.
14:31.05nevcairieli should stop fixing stuff and start adding the real features
14:31.08nevcairielbut hey
14:31.23Funkeh`[Ammo]: about coding :P <3 is there any kind of wipe detection in teh cthun mod
14:31.48Mikmathat guy is hilarous! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2861.msg56889#msg56889
14:33.04CIA-1703fenlis * r15698 10myBindings2/ (locals/enUS.lua locals/koKR.lua myBindings2.lua):
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14:33.33Mikmanevcairiel: growdown works?
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14:34.18nevcairielno its always growing up, as intended
14:34.43nevcairielor shrinking-down :)
14:35.02[Ammo]Funkeh`: yes there is wipe detection in C"Thun why?
14:35.07CIA-1703ammo * r15699 10oRA2/ (Bindings.xml Optional/MainTank.lua Optional/PlayerTarget.lua): oRA2: keybindings and macro functions to target MTs and PTs
14:35.09Mikmanevcairiel: oh yeah, THAT sorry :9
14:35.20[Ammo]I should have said 'drycoded' hmm :)
14:35.26Mikmagrowup is the way it should be so that the bottom always stays in the correct spot
14:35.32AKXnevcairiel - downloading DreamChat :)
14:35.43nevcairielit still doenst do anythign "chat"-ish
14:35.43Mikmanevcairiel: the "problem" ewill propably be how to move the others with the growup..
14:35.50AKXI know
14:36.02AKXI want to see cosine interpolation, 'sall
14:36.03Mikmanevcairiel: code the chatthing in soon so i can rip it to Popsicle ;)
14:36.20[Ammo]Laric: test that last commit please
14:36.41nevcairielit will just move all the other windows while my window scrolls up, might look funny tho, need to test :D
14:37.04Mikmanevcairiel: that's why i'm interested of seeing it too :)
14:37.20Mikmasince everything should scroll up like the chatframe does
14:37.57Funkeh`[Ammo]: its somewhat, off
14:38.37Funkeh`[Ammo]: i keep having to reset via the icon, it never resets, i actually zoned in and ported to IF and it was still going, and everyone had the latest version
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14:43.36AKXnevcairiel - cosine interpolation looks suh-weet
14:44.00nevcairieli googled an found a simple C func, converting is easy :)
14:44.07Mikmavhaarr: LOVELY! i like the MSBT -errormonster :)
14:44.20vhaarr:D
14:44.38AKXSo nevcairiel, can I move the window?
14:44.40vhaarrI personally use it in berserk mode with SCT output and 5 sec throttle.
14:44.45MikmaAKX: topleft corner
14:44.51nevcairielAKX: yeah, it has a drag point in the topleft corner
14:44.53AKXAhh
14:44.57AKXGlow or tooltip
14:45.02Mikmaglow <3
14:45.02nevcairieli need to find some good way too do that
14:45.30Mikmanevcairiel: put the new images in first :D
14:45.35nevcairielah right
14:45.45nevcairieli wanted to test those
14:45.45Mikmawell
14:45.56Mikmanevcairiel: they already ARE in textures-folder :)
14:46.00Mikmajust apply them in .lua hehe
14:46.21nevcairieli know
14:47.12Industrial< nevcairiel> and i want to get rid of it
14:47.12AKXHmm nevcairiel
14:47.24Industrialnevcairiel: then make a patch for the svn :P
14:47.26AKXI could basically do some work on DC too
14:47.34Industrialand bother KaeltenAway
14:47.35Industrial:D
14:48.22MikmaAKX: sweet :)
14:48.32Mikmanevcairiel: say yes say yes!! for the love of god say yes!
14:48.34AKXI could work on the chat part of it
14:48.52nevcairieli can basicly only do some real work on weekends, since i have lots of stuff todo during the week
14:49.10AKXWell technically I should do some school work, but I never do. So?
14:49.33nevcairielHeh.
14:50.05AKXBut some kind of a message type framework should be a Good Thing
14:50.09MikmaAKX: you can help me with popsicle too! ;)
14:50.40Mikmawell...
14:51.10Mikmanevcairiel: if you can implement popsicle's "hide/show" to Raidchat i can delete popsicle's betacode again from svn :D
14:51.33AKXWhat do you mean with that Mikma, btw?
14:52.43[Ammo]Funkeh`: it all depends on how many people in range still have C'Thun targetted for wipe detection
14:52.49[Ammo]sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
14:52.58[Ammo]and it also helps to have more people use BW for it to work prperly
14:53.04MikmaAKX: with what?
14:53.12AKXpopsicle's "hide/show" to Raidchat
14:53.59MikmaAKX: http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Popsicle/Popsicle.lua
14:54.22Mikmathere's the whole code i have been able to do now hehe
14:54.55Mikmai wan't that same feature in DreamChat, "Auto, Always, Never" options to show RaidChat
14:55.10Mikmaauto means if you join party/raid, the window will be shown. if you leave it will be hidden
14:55.16AKXYeah
14:55.20AKXThat sounds pretty trivial
14:55.21Mikmaalways will always show raidchat, and never will never show it
14:55.23AKXWindow show conditions
14:55.37Mikmayeah the last function in Popsicle works, i have tested it
14:55.46AKXHmm
14:55.48Mikmait's a complete defection of party and raid etc
14:56.00MikmaPopsicle:CheckVisibility()
14:56.02AKX"DreamChat - a less retarded FCF"
14:56.14Mikmabingo!
14:56.36Mikmai myself like the feature of raid/party-chat being hidden if not in raid
14:56.48Mikmaand i don't think it's even necessary to show in DreamChat if not grouped
14:58.14AKXWell
14:58.29AKXSince one can group multiple chats into one DC window, it has to be a window show condition
14:58.37AKXYou just can't look for "any frame with raid/party"
14:58.44AKXBesides, per-window is much more flexible
14:58.49Funkeh`[Ammo]: half the guild uses it =/ and im sure i had him targeted when he reset, but ill give it another this reset :)
15:00.19MikmaAKX: oh well, i'll just wait and see what you and nevcairiel can do before asking features :D
15:00.50AKXSo nevcairiel.. um, do I just submit patches to do you or how can I get SVN write access (and a quick how-to for ace's svn would be neat too)
15:01.09Laricmany thanks ammo :P
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15:03.24KalamadiRise of Legends = <3
15:04.37sbuyay, more dreamchat stuff ;p
15:04.47AKXThere. Requested access.
15:05.06MikmaAKX: now prepare to wait for 10min - 3day
15:05.14AKXYeah
15:05.19AKXI can still code meanwhile
15:06.24CIA-1703usz * r15701 10TooltipExchange/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
15:06.25CIA-17TooltipExchange
15:06.25CIA-17- Added Memo lists
15:06.25CIA-17- Improved Scanner memory consumption
15:06.28[Ammo]Laric: I assume it works?
15:06.36Mikmai can try kicking clad's ass but i think he will eat my head lol
15:15.47AKXWhat's wrong with me?..
15:15.49AKXI'm..
15:15.57AKXI'm documenting... as I'm coding! Nooo!
15:19.40nevcairieloh noes
15:19.54nevcairieldocumenting is baad, someone else could replace you because he understands your code
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15:20.42sbuwhooh
15:20.49phyberit's ok.  code in perl.  even with comments or documents nobody will understand it.
15:20.56phyber<3
15:21.05sbuJoshBorke: guildbook looks awesome :)
15:21.14sbuWTB WYSIWYG :p
15:21.29JoshBorkelol sbu
15:21.33Industrialwtb AceGUI-2.0
15:21.56JoshBorkesbu: Mikk is working on some updated buttons for me
15:23.02JoshBorkesbu: you write the WYSIWYG editor and i'll include it :-D
15:23.56JoshBorkei'm not going to lie.  i was upset when i saw blizzard included a Knowledge Base in the default UI :-(
15:24.11Industrialthey did?
15:24.11Industrial:S
15:24.21JoshBorkeyea, it'll come with WoW 2.0
15:24.30Industrialis it like the microsoft f1 drap?
15:24.30JoshBorkebut it's blizzard set content only
15:24.41Industrial'did you plug it in' 'yes' 'oh then call support'
15:24.57Industrials/drap/crap/
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15:26.07AKXSo nevcairiel, I'm actually now working on the messaging part of DreamChat
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15:26.16Industrialor is it more a community powered thing?
15:26.23Industrialthat would own :>
15:27.01sbumh
15:27.09omega__ingame wowwiki :p
15:27.18AKXIndustrial, I'm sure someone will enhance it to use SendAddonMessage
15:27.19AKXHowever
15:27.30AKXGIEF SENDADDONMESSAGE("MYADDON","SOMETHING","SAY")
15:27.32JoshBorkewhat are you guys talking about now?
15:27.41omega__Knowledge Base ingame
15:27.47omega__I am atleast :p
15:27.58IndustrialJoshBorke: not everyone has a beta account, what is it how does it look etc
15:28.01omega__can the comm-stuff only be used in BG/raid/party?
15:28.17AKXYeah omega__. BG, raid, party, guild.
15:28.23omega__k
15:28.30JoshBorkeIndustrial: i don't have one either :-P
15:28.36JoshBorkei'm trying to find screenshots
15:28.36AKXIf it was SAY as well, it could be used for flagRSP and such
15:28.47nevcairielAKX: yay
15:28.48omega__cause one could create a server-side wide ingame wiki if one could comm across everyone :p
15:29.03JoshBorkeomega__: i'm doing that for a guild
15:29.08omega__aha, cool
15:29.16omega__problem will be syncing I guess?
15:29.21omega__or is the plan to have one "master"?
15:29.24JoshBorkebut it should be extensible to serverwide if someone wanted to change the comm channel
15:29.34JoshBorkesync'd
15:29.39JoshBorkeno one master
15:29.43omega__k
15:29.51omega__looking forward to seeing that :p
15:29.53AKXHoly crud
15:29.57AKXI'm logging in BC now
15:30.10AKX(No beta key though *coughs*)
15:30.27Mi|eshuh?
15:30.34Mi|eswtb that way, ezmode debugging
15:31.07AKXcevingr freire...
15:32.07Industrialprivate server...
15:32.20AKXI didn't say that.
15:32.25Industrialyou meant it
15:32.29AKXTrue.
15:35.15Mikmapirate server, yarrrr!
15:35.20AKXNO!
15:35.23AKXIt's a cevingr freire!
15:35.47Gngskchampaigne room?
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15:40.04CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15703 10Interview/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Interview: Adds an implementation of a druidcom module - atm requires a 1 line change to DruidCom
15:41.11Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5661-1-triviakiller.html
15:41.14MikmaYAAAAAY!
15:42.33Industriallol
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15:42.51Industrialit kiss trivia but you cant use it in public channels?
15:42.55Industrialdefeats the purpose?
15:42.59Industrialkills*
15:43.20Mikmadunno
15:43.38KirkburnTrivia works in 'say' ... triviakiller: "it only answers questions in Say..."
15:44.06axxodoesn't awnser in private channels
15:44.19KirkburnYeah, he worded it badly :P
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15:46.11erirlarhello there, i was woundering if there is a ace2 mod that let's you know if you are overhealing?
15:46.23AKXerirlar, yes. sct shows overheals :)
15:46.46AKXIf you set it to only show your spells or something
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15:46.51AKXand turn "show overhealing" on
15:47.46erirlaraye that i know, but i would like to know if i am overhealing while casting the spell, couse sometimes my target get healed before i can
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15:49.18AKXAh. I think the section "raiding with Ace2" had something to that effect
15:49.29AKXBut, I once used Genesis, it had nice bars just for that
15:49.31erirlarthanks, i'll have a look
15:49.32AKXNot Ace though
15:50.07AKXhttp://wowace.com/wiki/HealWatch maybe?
15:51.26JoshBorkefore-warning: doesn't work all that great
15:52.08erirlari'll give Healwatch a littel test, be back later *smile*
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15:54.23RoyalNanoStats 2 is only own dmg right?
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15:58.53IndustrialRoyal: yes
15:59.53KalamadiJoshBorke: I'm still getting simultaneous bars which cause random freezes
16:00.10JoshBorkeKalamadi: well fix it!
16:00.34KalamadiI don't know what's causing it, per se
16:00.59JoshBorkeit is supposed to only allow one bar per heal
16:01.40Kalamadi*sigh* I'll keep testing it, though opportunites to do as such are dwindling. Damn PVP patch.
16:03.00AKXMikma
16:03.15JoshBorkethe while loops you mentioned are only for your spells
16:03.31KalamadiI don't know what else could be causing the freezes, however
16:03.41JoshBorkei understand :-)
16:03.52JoshBorkedid you try downloading the copy from wowi?
16:04.59KalamadiI'll do that now
16:05.57MikmaAKX: was?
16:06.00AKXYou fail
16:06.05Mikmak :(
16:06.09AKXcladhaire said so.
16:06.21Mikmasaid "Mikma fails"
16:06.42AKXNo
16:06.50AKXBut he asked me to toss http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules in your face.
16:07.06KalamadiIt's like watching two people try to kill each other with pool noodles.
16:07.14JoshBorkeo.O
16:07.38MikmaAKX: and? :O
16:08.01KalamadiJoshBorke: Trunk version fails to make its bars appear
16:08.10AKXWell, he implied that you're a noob for making me just email him.
16:08.24Mikmawell that's the way i did it haha
16:09.19Mikmagosh, nevcairiel needs a "pushed" texture too
16:09.30CIA-1703jncl * r15704 10oSkin/ (5 files): oSkin: Added options to turn of Gradient effect and alter the Fade Height of all frames
16:10.11AKXDoes oskin have a changeable color too, btw?
16:10.32KalamadiJoshBorke: WoWI version works
16:10.38AKXLike colorize in PS(P). (I want pink.)
16:10.39KalamadiAKX: Yes
16:10.45AKXAh, awesome.
16:10.59AKXThe Exodar.
16:11.00KalamadiIt's sensitive, though
16:11.13Mikmaone color to rule them all
16:11.14KalamadiIf you make it too bright, it becomes really ugly
16:11.34CIA-1703mikma 07Nevcairiel * r15705 10DreamChat/DreamChat/DreamChat.xml: DreamChat: Testing new texture for button
16:12.11KalamadiJoshBorke: Okay...WoWI version fails to differentiate between "up" and "down" growth.
16:12.53Mikmanevcairiel: dude
16:13.00KalamadiSay you have it set to "up". Upon starting a heal, the anchor moves up and the casting bar appears above it.
16:13.29KalamadiIf you have it set to "down", it acts as if it's center-justified. The anchor moves up half a bar and the casting bar appears beneath it
16:14.47MikmaAKX: well did you do what the "page" says and mailed there
16:14.52AKXWell duh, yes.
16:15.03Mikmad'oh, k'ay
16:15.53Mikmamikk needs to come online so i can bug him about the graphics ;D
16:16.24Mikmapurl: message to Mikk: Need gfx. gief. Wishes: Mikma
16:21.26JoshBorkeKalamadi: known bug.  use /hw resetanchor (i think)
16:21.54JoshBorkeand yes.  it is center anchored :-D
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16:23.26Kalamadi<PROTECTED>
16:23.56KalamadiThat MentalPower is one shifty character.
16:24.10MentalPower|Busyheh
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16:25.34axxowant to show rage/mana on mt windows, any addons that do that?
16:27.12erirlaris there a Ace2 replacement for "CT_MapMod" ?
16:27.57CIA-1703sylvanaar 07dev * r15706 10Interview/ (Adapters/DruidCom.lua Interview.lua): Interview: DruidCom module updated to hook DruidCom, no modifications to DruidCom needed now
16:27.59Mikmayes! go download now!
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16:33.05cncfanaticsyo all
16:33.43KalamadiMmm. The washer's imbalanced and the whole house is shaking =3
16:33.55Mikmago tesla
16:34.07Mikmaresonation earthquake FTW!
16:34.16[Ammo]stop living in a cardboardbox!
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16:52.53Mikmaboooooooring :(
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16:54.34CIA-1703sylvanaar * r15708 10Druidcom/: Druidcom: Corrected externals
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17:02.33nevcairielback
17:02.36Mikmawhee
17:02.38nevcairielstupid net connection broke
17:02.40Mikmawassup
17:02.51Mikmanevcairiel: i'm *REALLY* bored. what shall i do?
17:03.02nevcairieldo what guys do when they are bored
17:03.05Mikmanevcairiel: oh btw, you need a "PushedTexture" :D
17:03.29Mikmabut have no fear, i already botmessaged mikk to contact me when he comes online
17:04.01nevcairieli should really get some code going before i focus on that shit
17:04.19Mikmadon't worry
17:04.24Mikmai'll focus on that shit
17:04.36Mikmayou just code the chat i'll handle the gfx etc
17:05.12nevcairielas i said, mostly only time on weekends
17:05.35Mikmawell don't worry akx will help you
17:05.46AKXI'll code the chat shit, sure
17:09.55Mikmawhee
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17:10.01Mikmahi Tekkub
17:10.04AKXHello, Tekkub.
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17:10.54Mikmashould i just go pvp or do some creative stuff
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17:11.44AKXRight, do you need a screenie of the knowledge base, btw?
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17:12.57Mikmagod i really wan't that 3G cellularphone :(
17:13.09AKXThere is no apostrophe in "want".
17:13.20Mikmayeah i know but i still write it there for some reason
17:13.31AKXNo sherlock. Shit.
17:13.32Mikmahaven't been able to get rid of it yet
17:14.59Mikmahttp://www.nokia.co.uk/nokia/0,,82891,00.html
17:21.00AKXnevcairiel, around?
17:25.39nevcairielyea
17:25.41nevcairielsomewhat
17:25.47nevcairieluntil my connection breaks again
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17:26.58AKXWell
17:26.59JoshBorkeAKX: yes, i would like a screenie of the knowledgebase
17:27.10AKXhttp://servut.us/akx/box/bc/index.php?p=KnowledgeBase.jpg
17:27.45AKXI can't vouch for the content, since that was on a cevingr freire.
17:28.18nevcairielyou should stop using that word
17:28.36Mikma~rot13 private server
17:28.36purlcevingr freire
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17:29.12nevcairieli know what he meant
17:29.14nevcairielbut still :D
17:29.15AKXSo nevcairiel, I wrote the core stuff for messaging, but the rest will happen in the message window class
17:29.31Mikmanevcairiel: so did i but i still wanted to see is it rot13 ;)
17:29.47nevcairielat first i thought it was finnish or something
17:29.49nevcairielAKX: great
17:29.51nevcairieldo show :)
17:29.54AKXThat is, I wrote DreamChat:RegisterMessageType(typeId,visibleName,defaultSettings), DreamChat:UnregisterMessageType(typeId), DreamChat:SendMessage(typeId,message,sender)
17:29.56Mikmahehe
17:30.22Mikma~hex private server
17:30.22purlprivate server is 70 72 69 76 61 74 65 20 73 65 72 76 65 72
17:30.29nevcairielwhat does sendmessage do ? "send" the message to the windows?
17:30.44AKXYes, it asks windows whether they accept the message type and if they do, delivers them
17:30.53nevcairielnice
17:30.58AKXThe message windows will then check whether they really want to show it and so
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17:31.56AKXFor example, you could set a "Raid Warnings" frame which would show rws, raid leader and officers, the latest done with filtering the raid message type with a function that checks whether the person is an officer :P
17:32.16AKX*the last.
17:32.28nevcairielheh
17:32.29nevcairielnice
17:32.40AKXGod damnit, DreamChat will be awesome :D
17:32.56nevcairielbasicly i could filter one single person as well, right?
17:32.59AKXYes.
17:33.04nevcairielthats great
17:33.08AKXSomething like
17:33.09Mikmahehe
17:33.12Mikma<AKX> God damnit, DreamChat will be awesome :D
17:33.26Mikmaquote of the day!
17:33.41JoshBorkelol
17:33.46AKXIsRaidOfficer(sender) and sender~="Zerun" (if you wouldn't want my spam in your rw frame)
17:33.56AKXActually, more like
17:34.21AKX(typeId=="raid" and IsRaidOfficer(sender) and sender~="Zerun") or 1
17:34.29nevcairiel~emulate AKX
17:34.31purlGod damnit, DreamChat will be awesome :D
17:34.34nevcairielyay
17:34.35nevcairiel:)
17:34.36AKXThank you.
17:35.13Mikmait will rock all i will say
17:35.15nevcairieli wonder ..
17:35.20nevcairiel~emulate nevcairiel
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17:35.30nevcairiel:(
17:35.45Mikmayou are hard to quote
17:36.21nevcairielthat could be a good thing
17:43.15Mikmaonly if it would keep DreamChat coding :P
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17:46.14AKXI just need the SVN access now ^^
17:46.23Mikmasvn admins WAKE UP!
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17:49.52CIA-1703xinsonic * r15709 10BigWigs/ (22 files in 8 dirs): BigWigs: fix zhTW. thanks to matini, enix256 and aaronmvp.
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18:02.09eternally777Is there an easy way of having Tablet display the spell data for a spell when it mouses over a button icon without having to parse the spell's tooltip and then doing AddLine() to individually copy each line from the spell tooltip to tablet?
18:04.15sylvanaareternally777: You want to show the tooltip differenly?
18:04.30eternally777Nope
18:04.33Funkeh`hey man
18:04.45eternally777I just want it to behave as a normal tooltip mousing over a regular spell
18:04.51eternally777Hey Funkeh`
18:05.53MentalPower|Busyeternally777: GT:SetSpell()?
18:05.59MentalPower|Busyor whatever its called
18:06.14eternally777So I have to use a regular tooltip, can't use tablet?
18:06.32MentalPower|Busywhy do you want to use tablet?
18:07.07eternally777Because it's what I know how to use.  That's fine if I can't, it just means I have to figure out game tooltips a little bit more
18:07.26MentalPower|BusyGT is more efficient
18:07.40eternally777Ok.
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18:10.56cncfanaticswhat is a good ace2'd combat log addon ?
18:11.24evlSimpleCombatLog
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18:12.19`-FISKER_QAnyone got a link to a site that hosts the BC client and patches?
18:12.32cncfanaticsthere are none
18:12.37AKX`-FISKER_Q, I got the engb client via torrent from piratebay
18:12.43AKX(Includes the official tracker as well)
18:13.04cncfanaticsAKX, think he means direct download ?
18:13.11AKXWell, that's kinda stupid :P
18:13.19AKX2.2 gigs, not too many places would host it
18:13.23`-FISKER_Qi believe i saw someone on the US forums advertise some site
18:13.24`-FISKER_Q:o
18:13.39cncfanaticscurse has is, but they deleted the enGB version cuz of bandwith issues
18:13.59cncfanaticsI got a server with unlimited bandwith, but, the uprate of my connection is too slow to upload it to it :p
18:14.11`-FISKER_Q"unlimited"
18:14.13AKXOvernight, cncfanatics?
18:14.25yacoobAKX, is bc beta open at last?
18:14.29AKXNope.
18:14.30cncfanaticsMy bandwith is limited each month
18:14.40cncfanaticscan't afford to upload it except at the end of the month
18:14.41AKXI'm just too cool, yacoob.
18:14.49cncfanaticsand we're the first of november, so :/
18:14.52eternally777I still don't think it'll ever be an open beta.
18:15.28yacoobAKX, ahh, that's obvious.
18:16.36cncfanaticsanyone could be arsed to upload BC to my server ?
18:16.44cncfanaticswld be handy for a lot of ppl I guess :p
18:16.50nealedownload it from curse if you want it
18:16.57cncfanaticscurse deleted the engb version :p
18:17.03nealehaha
18:17.10cncfanaticslack of bandwith blabla
18:17.16AKXI can do that cncfanatics... will take 24 or more hours though
18:17.29cncfanaticsok, login details in pm
18:18.12cncfanaticsthanks AKX btw :)
18:18.23yacoobGimme some cool web 2.0 webpage?
18:18.37AKXlook something up on techcrunch.
18:18.48`-FISKER_Qunless your host is the 1337est in the world it will be shut down as well :P
18:19.02`-FISKER_QOver here hosts start bitching if you start using 20-30GB/month
18:19.12`-FISKER_Qeven though they all promise unlimited bandwitdh
18:19.28yacoobtehcrunch?
18:19.31yacoobtehsexyname!
18:19.37cncfanaticsthey promise it, we'll see if they do it also
18:19.38AKXTechCrunch is a web2.0 blog thingy.
18:19.50cncfanaticsits a free host, so they probably will :p
18:19.59AKX:DD
18:20.34`-FISKER_Qhttp://download.falkjaer.dk/ <-see
18:20.36`-FISKER_Q:P
18:20.38yacoobjust checked it. Latest post: "Orkut bigger than Myspace?"
18:20.40`-FISKER_Qthat's only the patches
18:20.43yacoobBoy, I already love it :D
18:20.56cncfanaticsbtw, my server ain't suposed to host TBC for public use
18:21.02cncfanaticsjust for peeps on this chan needing it :
18:21.51`-FISKER_Qi'll be sure to use my school's connection to download it several times at the same time
18:21.54`-FISKER_Q:D
18:22.00cncfanatics(oh, and WTB some extra processors, mine is used at 100% atm)
18:22.13`-FISKER_Qthat reminds me
18:22.15cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
18:22.25`-FISKER_QIdiots in the administrator department screwed up :D
18:22.34`-FISKER_QThey started doing multicast ghost sessions
18:22.41`-FISKER_QAnd their network sucks
18:22.59cncfanaticsidiot teachers/admins at schools, nothing new :p
18:23.00`-FISKER_QSo all computers on the network began freezing up due to the excessive packets (around 500k a second)
18:23.03`-FISKER_Qbut i had dual core :D
18:23.15`-FISKER_Qso my one core was frying like hell but the other one was stable
18:23.23cncfanaticshaha
18:23.29cncfanaticswhat university/school u at ?
18:23.37`-FISKER_Qit's in denmark :o
18:23.55`-FISKER_Qit's called Ringsted Tekniske Skole
18:23.56pastamancerhaha, you really need to set up a separate network/vlan for multicast ghost
18:24.10cncfanaticsbtw, tell me what multicast ghost is ? :/
18:24.51`-FISKER_QIt's around 4GB of packets being sent to all computers within the network
18:24.55pastamancerghost is a hard-drive imaging program for setting up new computers based on an existing one
18:24.55`-FISKER_QBut their network sucks
18:25.15cncfanaticsoooh, nice to fuck up a network totaly
18:25.17pastamancermulticast means it's broadcasting one hard drive image to everything on the network
18:25.24`-FISKER_QOnce their network were down for a week because someone made a loopback
18:25.35cncfanaticslol, thats some secure network
18:25.49`-FISKER_QThey have no documentation of the network, so it took them a week and then they still didn't find it
18:25.52cncfanaticsas secure as the one in my school :p (which I could probably hack with my n000b hacking skills)
18:25.53pastamancerwtf, any decent switch will detect a loopback
18:25.53kergothpretty sad if it took them a week
18:25.55`-FISKER_QThen someone apparently saw it and plugged it out himself
18:26.12`-FISKER_QThis network seriously sucks
18:26.21`-FISKER_QThey also have some machine broadcasting blaster
18:26.25`-FISKER_Qthey have no idea where it is
18:26.37pastamancerdon't tell me any more, it's making me sad :(
18:26.48cncfanaticstell more, it's making me laugh :p
18:26.49`-FISKER_Qhehe
18:26.50`-FISKER_Qsame here
18:26.57kergothvhaarr: deucelog appears to be catching some mob kills thinking they're players
18:27.11`-FISKER_QOnce i also begun to see spam mails from someone with my name
18:27.18`-FISKER_QTurns out their exchange server was infected with something
18:27.23vhaarrkergoth: I know, it's a sideffect of the fact that you can't target things with addons in TBC
18:27.33`-FISKER_Qcause my school email started sending to all my contacts :D
18:27.36kergothah
18:27.44vhaarrkergoth: I could make it act 100% on honor events though, but then it would never catch kills of lower level players.
18:29.11kergothahh, might be good to make that an option? let the user decide which of the tradeoffs they want
18:29.59`-FISKER_QCouldn't you also just parse the mobs for invalid names?
18:30.03`-FISKER_QOfcourse that wouldn't take them all
18:30.06`-FISKER_Qbut atleast some :P
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18:34.13vhaarrkergoth: indeed, that is a thought
18:34.25vhaarrkergoth: relying 100% on honor events would remove the need for parserlib at all as well.
18:34.35vhaarrmaking it pretty slim
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18:35.44kergothah, thatd be nice
18:36.42Mikmaneat
18:36.52Mikmalvl33 night elf rogue is riding a turtle mount
18:37.17Mikma"slow and steady"
18:38.51Mikmalvl20 required
18:38.55Mikmaand it's *SLOW* :P
18:43.20nevcairielisnt it supposed to be fast?
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18:43.27nevcairielor can you upgrade it with higher level?
18:45.15Mikmanevcairiel: no. it's 100% speed = running speed
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18:45.45Mikmahttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=23720
18:46.22cncfanaticsaka, 100% for looks
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18:46.37Mikmaaye
18:47.30cncfanatics(can someone remind me the command to change screen resolution with linux, forgot it again :/)
18:47.38Mikmarm -rf /
18:47.58cncfanaticsneh
18:48.01cncfanaticshehe
18:48.18cncfanaticsecho "Mikma" > /dev/null
18:48.47eternally777I have no idea cncfanatics :(
18:48.58eternally777I just do it through the GUI
18:49.10Mikmasomething liek ctrl alt +
18:49.12Mikmaorso
18:49.52cncfanaticsyea, thats suposed to work, but I can't get higher then 800x600 with that
18:50.00cncfanaticsguess i'll just restart my X server, brb
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18:54.21CIA-1703pb_ee1 * r15710 10ChatLog/ChatLog.lua: ChatLog: Enabled scrolling the log with the mouse wheel.
18:57.40CIA-1703ag 07TBC * r15711 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Defaults.lua ag_GroupClass.lua):
18:57.40CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
18:57.40CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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18:58.40grollanyone happen to know why i have a cooldown monitor in the middle of my screen when in a battleground? or know what addon it is
19:00.23malrethwhat cooldown is it monitoring?
19:00.37AKXgroll, that's oRA's monitor
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19:02.14grollaaaah thaaank you :D
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19:07.52pastamancerooh: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=36975623&pageNo=4&sid=1#77 "Targeting and setting focus is now allowed outside of combat, with the same restrictions as spell casting."
19:08.53nevcairielthat wasnt allowed before?
19:09.01pastamancerapparently not
19:09.40eternally777How can I find out which tab a spell is located on?
19:10.45AKXDoes Lua support hex literals?
19:10.58Galenciaof course it does?
19:10.59pastamancerI'd imagine so
19:11.02otraviwtb heat
19:11.05Temno it wasn't allowed before
19:11.09otraviIt's 12 degrees here now :(
19:11.16malrethyou mean like 0x13f5?
19:11.26TemTargetting was previously caused an ADDON_ACTION_FORBIDDEN
19:11.26AKXYeah
19:11.30malreththen no
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19:11.42Mikmaotravi: C or F, in or out?
19:11.47otraviC, inside
19:11.57Mikmawtf
19:12.03malreththere's an add-in that someone wrote for lua that added support for hex literals, but it's still not part of the standard
19:12.36Galenciahrmpf odd
19:12.39pastamanceroh, that seems like a strange thing to not support
19:12.44Galenciacoulda sworn it did :(
19:13.16malrethyou can take a hex number in a string and convert it to a number, however
19:13.51malreth> =tonumber("deadbeef", 16)
19:13.51malreth3735928559
19:14.06MikmaAKX: planning on something nasty are we? ;)
19:14.13CIA-1703tekkub * r15712 10SupplyAndDemand/SupplyAndDemand.toc: SupplyAndDemand - Setup for InBed
19:14.26AKXMikma, no. Just doing DC
19:14.48CIA-1703tekkub * r15713 10SupplyAndDemand/ (Libs/ SupplyAndDemand.toc): SupplyAndDemand - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)
19:14.50MikmaAKX: ok then you are doing something KINKY lol
19:15.02malrethKinky for Governor!
19:15.33Mikmapurl: emulate malreth is <reply>Kinky for Governor!
19:15.34purl...but emulate malreth is already something else...
19:15.42Mikmaboo! do i really have to mod that
19:15.49malrethdon't
19:15.52yacoob*gasp*
19:15.53malreth:p
19:15.58yacoobnew bongos nuked my profile!
19:16.03AKXyacoob, it didn't
19:16.06malreth~emulate malreth
19:16.07purlyour hate makes you strong, malreth
19:16.07AKXJust load your profile
19:16.07yacoobit did!
19:16.13malrethit does
19:16.22AKXWorked by loading the profile for me
19:16.26Mikma~literal emulate malreth
19:16.27purl"emulate malreth" is "<reply>(i have yet to find any olsen twin porn...|as long as it's not anal-related, it's fine|that makes me sticky in the pants|Uh... No. Malreth scares me.|your hate makes you strong, $who)"
19:16.36malrethoh my
19:16.39yacoobAKX, I'm talking about my custom lua hooked on destealth
19:16.49SarozTekkub, run that inbed on sRaidFrames
19:16.51otravimalreth: 4Chan's Rule 34: If It exists, there's porn of it!
19:17.00AKXAh, well, probably, since scripting was removed :P
19:17.08Mikmapurl: no, emulate marleth is <reply>(i have yet to find any olsen twin porn...|as long as it's not anal-related, it's fine|that makes me sticky in the pants|Uh... No. Malreth scares me.|your hate makes you strong, $who|Kinky for Governor!)
19:17.09purlokay, Mikma
19:17.11yacoobAKX, NOOO!
19:17.23malrethMikma: now what do i do if Kinky loses the election?
19:17.28Tekkubit set up for it?
19:17.41Mikmamalreth: hmm then you go for fetish
19:18.09Sarozno idea Tekkub, what does it take
19:18.30malrethi don't think you understand
19:18.51malreth~wiki Kinky Friedman
19:18.59Tekkuba folder named Libs or no externals set at all, remove the X-Embeds from the TOC and surround the libraries in the TOC with keywords
19:19.00malrethhttp://www.kinkyfriedman.com/
19:19.05Tekkublook at S&D's TOC
19:19.19Mikmamalreth: kinky and fetish walk hand in hand ;)
19:20.08malrethi mean, seriously... who *wouldn't* vote for a Jewish cowboy country singer for Texas governor?
19:20.28Mikmahehehehe :D
19:20.57TorfiI'm pro-Kinky myself
19:22.09Mikmathe singer or the "hobby"
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19:22.55Mikmahi purrenn
19:23.26eternally777For tooltips, how does ":SetSpell()" work?  Is is ":SetSpell(spellId, spellTabNum)" or ":SetSpell(spellId, BOOKTYPE_SPELL)"?
19:23.34yacoobhey, it nukes my nifty script... :(
19:23.45yacoobbring me the head of Bongos author!
19:24.50Tem~seen Tuller
19:25.19purltuller <n=chatzill@c-68-57-185-39.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 17h 25m 36s ago, saying: 'except you mean bag slots, so ignore me :)'.
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19:39.40otraviwe have a rogue pulling in Naxx now, he wanted to prove that he could replace a hunter :p
19:40.00cncfanaticswish my guild even did naxx lol
19:41.26otravihaha, now a hunter pulled, and we wiped :D
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19:43.49nealeno you don't cncfanatics
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19:44.41Mikmaotravi: why you named like that, you're supposed to hide from your fans
19:44.56otravithey were talking about haste rating yesterday
19:45.01otravicouldn't be arsed with the highlights
19:45.08Mikmaaww :P
19:45.37Mikmasee?
19:45.40Mikmait has started
19:45.55malrethsign this!
19:46.36Mikmaooh lala!
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19:47.47AKXIf I set up a AceEvent method, using one method for multiple events, how can I get the event name, or can I?
19:48.02CIA-1703phyber * r15714 10BagSlots/BagSlots.lua:
19:48.02CIA-17BagSlots:
19:48.02CIA-17- Fixed a few small mistakes.
19:48.03dreyruugrckknight: have libs like dewdrop and tablet been updated to BC compatibility?
19:48.04malrethis it true that you slept with brad pitt in your upcoming addon, otravi?
19:48.21ckknighthey all
19:48.25ckknightyes, dreyruugr
19:48.28dreyruugrshibby
19:48.38ckknightshibby?
19:48.40eternally777AKX: everytime information is passed to that specific event handler, a hidden variable ("event") is passed along carrying the name of the event
19:48.48ag`shibby is something autralian
19:48.54AKXLike usually, then, eternally777?
19:49.02eternally777Like usual.
19:49.08dreyruugrag`: It's also dudewheresmycarian
19:49.32Tekkub<Dude Wheres My Mount>
19:49.33otravimalreth: brad pitt of all people
19:49.41Tekkub<Naga stole my mount>
19:49.55ckknightHalloween was fun
19:49.55otraviI was hoping for Sylvester Stallone
19:50.02otraviI hate Halloween
19:50.03malrethhe's old
19:50.18otraviworst piece of crap that ever was 'imported' by this country
19:50.47CIA-1703phyber * r15715 10BagSlots/BagSlots.lua:
19:50.47CIA-17BagSlots:
19:50.47CIA-17- RegisterEvent => RegisterBucketEvent
19:50.53nealetell us how you really feel haste ;)
19:50.58MikmaAKX: have you checked out the wiki for AceEvent?
19:51.04AKXI did.
19:51.26MikmaAKX: did it help?
19:51.36malrethotravi: Brad Pitt or Halloween?
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19:51.40AKXNah, eternally777 helped more. :)
19:51.54otravimalreth: Halloween
19:51.59MikmaAKX: good good :)
19:52.13AKX-- @desc The event handler function for say/yell/party/guild/officer/raid/bg messages.
19:52.19malrethok... just makin' sure
19:52.28CIA-1703phyber * r15716 10IDCard/IDCard.lua:
19:52.28CIA-17IDCard:
19:52.28CIA-17- Removed some commented out code, since new AH-2.1 code works fine.
19:53.16Mikmamalreth: both haha
19:53.28Mikmahalloween.. has nothing to do with anything in europe
19:54.05otraviMikma: Agreed, but people still does it
19:54.10otraviand I find it annoying as hell
19:54.15nealewhy?
19:54.36nealei know last time i was in the UK for halloween i found it wierd that nobody cared, but then again they have bonfire night like 5 days later
19:55.32Mikmaotravi: yeah some people seem to think it's important. imho new year and independence day are the only days that are suitable for partying
19:56.26TekkubI find most holidays meaningless
19:56.58Mikmasame
19:57.02otraviI find halloween annoying and meaningless
19:57.05Mikmaeven my birthday is meaningless to me
19:57.32Tekkubwhen half the businesses out there do not recognize the holiday beyond the holiday pay they're forced to pay...
19:57.32Tekkubseems to negate any reason for havinga  holiday
19:57.32Mikmait's just a perfect excuse for everyone to drink their asses off and be an ass anyway
19:57.32CIA-1703sylvanaar * r15717 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (. FuBar_RegenFu.toc changelog.txt): FuBar_RegenFu: added embedded ace2
19:57.53otravithe main reason I find halloween so annoying is 'cause I have to interacte with it, if I want to or not
19:57.59Tekkubno you don't
19:58.02TekkubI did
19:58.05Tekkub*n't
19:58.17otraviOpening the door and getting "knep eller knask" in your face is more then enough
19:58.25nealedon't open the door
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19:58.29KirkburnDidn't celebrate Hallowe'en here either ... ignored people at the door :)
19:58.34Mikmaotravi: haha there's really people circling around doing that?? :D
19:58.34otravineale: that's not solution at all
19:58.34nealeturn off the lights and put a "fuck you" sign on the door
19:58.37yacoobdamn
19:58.38otraviMikma: YES!
19:58.39Tekkubmy interaction: 5 minutes in the groc store seeing how sad arkansasians are at costumes
19:59.02Mikmaotravi: oh poor bastard, really :P haven't seen people running around in finland doing that yet
19:59.15Tekkubyellow pointy witch hat, yellow pants and shirt with "MUSTARD" printed on it
19:59.15MikmaTekkub: "none" ?
19:59.17otraviMikma: It started last year :(
19:59.24malreth<PROTECTED>
19:59.26Tekkubit was pathetic
19:59.27malrethmustard...
19:59.37malreththat's the funniest thing ever
19:59.38otraviI should have a bucket of water ready for when they come
19:59.42otraviSince it's cold as hell here now :D
19:59.50Mikmai don't get it. why does it have the mustard -text in it?
19:59.50malreth"cold as hell"?
20:00.02Tekkub*sigh*
20:00.06Tekkubthat's even sadder
20:00.29nealeis
20:00.29neale"knep eller knask" trick or treat?
20:00.29CIA-1703sylvanaar 072.0.3 * r15718 10FuBar_RegenFu/: FuBar_RegenFu: Tag 2.0.3 Release
20:00.29otravineale: yes
20:00.35Mikmawhee! -5.5C in here
20:00.37nealejesus, just put a sign on the door saying "no candy"
20:00.40nealenobody will bother you
20:00.45malrethno wonder it's so annoying... so many K's
20:00.45Mikmaoh boy i hope my diesel will start tomorrow
20:00.52otravineale: and "knep" is a word which isn't used at all in Norway
20:00.55Tekkubor turn off your portch light, problem solved
20:01.05nealeyes that works too tek
20:01.08Mikmahehe
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20:01.33Mikmain easter we have these kids running around and ringing doorbells
20:01.33nealei had to run my little ones around last night lol
20:01.41Mikmawell i solved that one by unscrewing the doorbell :D
20:01.47Mikmait's been off about 3 years now
20:01.54Tekkubeaster?
20:01.55otravihaha
20:02.00Tekkubyou people are fucked up
20:02.07nealeqft, tekkub
20:02.09Mikmayeah we are
20:02.12otraviWe have something similar to Halloween in norway also, around X-mas
20:02.18Mikmaanother fucking useless day
20:02.20otravibut no one does it anymore
20:02.33Tekkubhow is great zombie jesus day useless?
20:02.38TekkubZOMBIE!
20:02.42Tekkubtaht's cool
20:02.47otraviI should just play some load black metal when they show up
20:02.51otraviit should scare them off
20:02.58Mikmaaww man, Tekkub put a new point into it
20:03.04Mikmascrew you
20:03.07nealeahaha
20:03.28Tekkubit's amazing how pissy people get when you call it that too
20:03.31Tekkubit's great fun
20:03.35Mikmalol?
20:03.38nealegreat zombie jesus day
20:03.42yacoober...
20:03.51Mikmai don't have that problem :D i resigned from my church 3 days after i got married
20:03.52yacoobI need to stomp over Bongos author.
20:04.25nealeeff bongos, bar2 ftw
20:05.07Mikmaoh, i saw a new actionbarmod today in curse
20:05.46JoshBorkeusz_: ping
20:06.08uszJoshBorke, sup?
20:06.17Mikma(this is not it but hehe) http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5657-1-one-raid.html
20:06.28nealegoing to look now mik
20:06.29JoshBorkei was taking a look at TEA today and i had some questions
20:06.32nealei need a chuckle
20:06.43uszJoshBorke, sure go ahead
20:06.44Tekkubone raid to rule them all?
20:06.57MikmaTekkub: lol you know, that also came in my mind when i saw that
20:07.51JoshBorkeusz: what happens if you pass the wrong key to Decrypt?
20:08.03nealemikma: "This addon is not compatible with Ora" ... wtf
20:08.08uszJoshBorke, you get gibrish (spelling?)
20:08.16JoshBorkeok
20:09.01Mikmaneale: err, didn't see that one
20:09.04uszas Encrypt produces table of int32 (in theory), while Decrypt on that table produces string, so this string will be invalid one
20:09.26yacoobwhat's the unit on 'offset'? :/
20:09.31nealeoRA2 pwns face, to release a raid mod that doesn't interface with it is a joke
20:09.56Azurewrathhuh?
20:10.24Mikmaok sorry it was wowi not curse: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5528-Trinity_Buttons.html
20:10.32Mikmabut yay another actionbuttonmod
20:10.40nealelooking mik, i could use a chuckle
20:10.57Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5560-Rawr%21.html
20:10.58Tekkub^^
20:11.38otravihaha
20:11.41otravibest image Tekkub
20:11.42nealeahhaa tekkub
20:11.58Tekkub^^^
20:13.09malrethRawr! delivers
20:13.20malrethlike an obstetrician
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20:14.53Mikmaneale: "Each bar can have buttons removed or added. To hide an unwanted bar, simply remove all buttons." <- is that supposed to be easy?
20:15.24uszJoshBorke, you can see how i use TEALib in PrivateChat addon which is in trunk
20:15.51nealehaha remove all buttons to hide?  that's pathetic
20:16.14otraviEasy on the coder!
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20:16.21nealewho cares :)
20:16.22nealehehe
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20:34.46vhaarrTekkub: Get my PM?
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20:49.17fathomis there any way to get bartender2 to take a set of coordinates for where i'd like a bar placed on the screen?
20:50.04malrethno, but you can use the SetPoint() methods on its bar frames
20:50.13JoshBorke~whaleslap malreth
20:50.15purlACTION beats malreth upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
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20:50.32malrethBar1:SetPoint("BOTTOM", UIParent, "BOTTOM", 0, -8)
20:50.43Mikmaindeed :)
20:50.48malrethah..
20:50.49Mikmathat's what i use myself malreth
20:50.52malrethbut there's one more thing
20:51.02malrethyou have to call Bartender's function to save the position
20:51.10malrethi forget what that's called off the top of my head
20:51.35malrethotherwise, the next time you reload or relog, the bars will go right back to where they were before
20:51.37fathomwow, think that feature might get added? :)
20:51.48malrethprobably not
20:51.56fathomi haven't looked at who wrote bartender2
20:52.15malreth*cough*
20:52.25fathomsorry :(
20:53.12fathommalreth = mikma?
20:53.17malrethMikma == mikma
20:53.34fathomah
20:53.56malrethmalreth == forum troll and irc bad boy
20:54.02malrethjust ask JoshBorke.
20:54.16Mikmamalreth: Bartender:SavePosition(Bar1)
20:54.25malreththat's it
20:54.36malrethhow'd you know that? ;)
20:54.44fathomMikma thank you sir. Btw, you are a god among men.
20:55.03Mikmamalreth: i meditated the answer
20:55.12malrethdivine
20:55.33Mikmahard rock halleluja
20:55.47malrethAMEN!
20:56.03CIA-1703eternally777 * r15719 10/branches/SacredBuff/:
20:56.03CIA-17SacredBuff:
20:56.03CIA-17* Preparing to branch
20:56.29fathomawesome, i love me some sacredbuff.
20:56.50CIA-1703xinsonic * r15720 10GMail/localization.zhTW.lua: GMail: update zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
20:57.02CIA-1703eternally777 07eternally777 * r15721 10SacredBuff/:
20:57.02CIA-17SacredBuff:
20:57.03CIA-17* Branching
20:58.13fathomso okay i did the whole /script Bar1:SetPoint("BOTTOM", UIParent, "BOTTOM", 0, -8) thing and nothing happened.
20:58.33eternally777Did you do "ClearAllPoints()" first?
20:58.43malrethgood catch, eternally777
20:59.03fathomBar1:CearlAllPoints()?
20:59.06eternally777ty
20:59.10eternally777yar
20:59.11malreth<PROTECTED>
20:59.29CIA-1703xinsonic * r15722 10oCB/ (oCB.Locale.zhTW.lua oCB.toc): oCB: update zhTW, thanks to Kayin.
20:59.40fathomoh nice
20:59.44fathomthanks!
20:59.55malrethGo Team Venture!
21:00.53fathomI appreciate the help.
21:01.05eternally777np
21:03.27fathometernally777, hey i'm having a silght problem with SacredBuff, when I go to press the rez button at the bottom, I have to move to the top of the circle for it to work. Heard anyone having that problem?
21:04.35eternally777Hmm, thats the first time I've heard that one
21:04.41CIA-1703eternally777 07eternally777 * r15723 10SacredBuff/ (Locales/koKR.lua SacredBuff.lua UI.lua):
21:04.41CIA-17SacredBuff:
21:04.42CIA-17* Adjusted spell detection to acquire the mana cost of spells
21:04.42CIA-17* Changed koKR.lua to UTF-8 encoding
21:05.03fathomi have it all the way down in the bottom right of my screen, let me unlock and move it and see if it's happy elsewhere.
21:05.11CairennWOOOOOHOOOOO!!!!
21:05.17CairennAnd we are LIVE!!!!
21:05.18Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=32741#post32741
21:05.39Mikmaholy crap
21:05.44fathometernally777, hmm yeah it's when i have it all the way at the bottom right.
21:05.55nevcairieli should upload some mod
21:05.56nevcairieldamnit
21:06.00fathomwow nice.
21:06.03nymbia|sleeplol, ditto
21:06.15fathomenjoy your beta access.
21:06.23nymbia|sleep<3 cairenn
21:06.42MikmaCairenn: can nevcairiel get a key too since he has helped me with Bartender2 (which is hosted in wowi)? :D
21:06.45pastamancer*sigh*, if only Grid were ready to be uploaded
21:06.45nevcairielive only worked together with other people on mods and not released any mods my self. sucks :)
21:08.01nevcairielor updated the mods in svn for patches and told the authors, meh :D
21:08.10fathomactually eternally777 it doesn't like to be near the bottom of the screen, it starts doing weird stuff. buttons at the bottom almost maybe shift above where they are visually?
21:08.43eternally777Do you have any mod that tries to move frames that are too close to the bottom?
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21:09.33fathomi don't believe so, i'm about 99% ace mods. I don't have that one that's supposed to keep your frames on the screen.
21:09.57pastamancerdo you have a fubar along the bottom of your screen?
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21:10.39fathompastamancer, yes i do!
21:10.43CairennMikma: in order to get a key, the person has to have a mod in our database
21:10.51fathomhttp://fathom.morpheus.net/wow/screens/wow.png  <--
21:11.00eternally777Bah, my mod is "in moderation"
21:11.14Mikmaso nevcairiel, go and upload FuBar_Bartender2Fu now :)
21:11.18eternally777Gotta wait until WoW-I accepts my mod to get a key :(
21:11.19Mikmait has 100% your name in it
21:11.25eternally777the blood is pumping...
21:11.46eternally777fathom: that looks fine to me o.O
21:11.56Tekkuboro?
21:12.20fathometernally777, like where i have it right there, the rez button doesn't want to push :(
21:12.35eternally777What bar is that along the bottom?
21:12.43eternally777of your screen
21:12.53fathombut pastamancer was right, it's only in the area where fubar would be if it actually graphically spanned the whole bottom.
21:12.56eternally777FuBar?
21:13.01eternally777yeah
21:13.03fathomyeah it's FuBar with CyArt
21:13.04eternally777Thought so
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21:14.23fathomalright, user error :( but good to know about that fubar thing.
21:14.54NeronixHoly shit
21:15.08nymbia|sleephaha yeah
21:15.32nymbia|sleepgood incentive to actually upload stuff :o
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21:16.15vhaarrag`: raid frames do not work in TBC
21:16.29malrethpurl, burning crusade
21:16.32purlfrom memory, burning crusade is an expansion pack for the successful MMO, World of Warcraft, by Blizzard. Reportedly, it will break all addons, add Tauren priests, not allow you to target anyone, cast any spells, use any weapons, heal any friends, chat, log off, use web browsers, or kill things. It will randomly curse you and 25 of your friends and 25 of their ...
21:16.41vhaarrag`: unless your last commit fixed that ..
21:16.53NeronixTauren priests?
21:17.03NeronixI'd rather have tauren rogues :P
21:17.03nymbiait wont be fixed yet, vhaarr.. i dont think anyway..
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21:17.44eternally777So is the WoWInterface giveaway only retroactive?  or mods uploaded from this point on will also be eligible for a key?
21:17.56nymbiawell it says
21:18.03nymbia"If your addon or interface is currently in moderation you will have to wait until an admin approves it then visit this page."
21:18.18nymbiaso i think mods uploaded from now on are still eligible
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21:18.51Cairennthey are, after it's approved you can sign up for a key
21:19.06nymbiaawesome.  thanks a lot cairenn :)
21:19.58eternally777I <3 U.  I <3 U SO much.
21:20.40NeronixCairenn = win
21:20.46Neronixtell Blizzard they win too please :P
21:21.00Mikmanevcairiel: go go already, upload FuBar_Bartender2Fu so you can start working on Bartender2 BC ;)
21:22.49nevcairielsubmiting
21:22.54nevcairieli might actually release hotcandy as well
21:23.32nevcairieli wonder how long it will take to be approved
21:23.47eternally777Took mine less than 5 minutes
21:24.31Cairennapproved
21:24.39arkanesCairenn: Just saw the WoWI beta too, big thanks to you and blizz for that
21:24.45Cairenn:)
21:24.46nevcairielthanks alot
21:25.08nymbialol, i bet there's about a billion uploads to approve right about now
21:25.25Cairennheh
21:25.29NeronixHow many keys do you actually have to give out?
21:25.39Mikma"have" ?
21:25.48Cairennas many as we need
21:25.59NeronixSo you're giving every single applicant one
21:26.11NeronixIndescribably sexcellent?
21:26.31MikmaCairenn: how was this possible? can you tell us the quick details? :)
21:26.32eternally777Imagine the influx of mods to wowinterface.com
21:26.33nevcairielso which EU server shall i join?
21:26.41Cairennif they have a legitimate mod on the site, they can have a key
21:26.54Cairennif they upload crap just to get a key, it gets denied
21:27.21arkanesyou're manually checking all of them?
21:27.27otravididn't the rules say as of 20th June?
21:27.28malrethhmm... Ensemble got moved to Outdated but StopTheSpam remains in its usual category
21:27.33eternally777:( Now I'm stuck staring at my inbox clicking "Retreive new messages.." all night long.
21:27.41otravioh, my bad
21:27.43arkanescrazy dedication
21:30.32NeronixIn other brillaint news, Magical Tevor 4!!
21:30.33Neronixhttp://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/magical+trevor+4/
21:32.01Cairennarkanes: we *always* manually check the mods
21:32.11Cairennthat's why you don't see crap ones on our site
21:34.19otravithe mod devlark posted were: crap :D
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21:34.57Cairennnotice they aren't on the site any more?
21:35.07otraviyes, 'cause he was banned :D
21:35.35Cairennhe got banned after they got pulled
21:36.04otraviand a tiny bit of my whine
21:37.01arkanesCairenn: Yeah, I listed with worldofwar.net in hopes of getting a key from them, but I really prefer wowi so I'm stoked you're getting to give out keys
21:37.11nevcairielcan you copy pre-defined chars or only your own?
21:37.13Mikmaotravi: what addons he had?
21:37.15nevcairielon beta
21:37.22Cairennonly your own, to my knowledge
21:37.23Mikmaand who is devlark :D
21:37.28malrethactually, i ignored worldofwar... i'm wowi loyal
21:37.34otraviCountDoom without RegisterForSave()
21:37.41otraviand LowMemRaidPack
21:37.43JoshBorkemalreth: me too
21:37.44NeronixMikma: Someone who doesn't know shit
21:37.46otraviwith oRA, and lots of other shit
21:37.50Neronixspread FUD about oRA 2
21:37.57nymbiamy ui.worldofwar.net listings havent been updated in a year, but they're still there! ;)
21:37.59otravithen he talked shit about oRA2 in the oRA comments
21:38.02Mikmai do that daily
21:38.06otraviso I made caireen remove it
21:38.17otraviand then he posted it again in another thread
21:38.31Mikmaaww, he just wanted to be liked
21:38.49malrethi remember devlark from the forums.... he was an asshat there too
21:38.52otravihttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4778 << still some tracks left of him :D
21:39.34nevcairieli am kinda helpless now, where do i download the beta ? :D
21:39.56Mikmanevcairiel: wait for the key first ;)
21:40.01[FH]Birdemanibeta.worldofwarcraft.com
21:40.02Mikmathe BC is like 2GB + patches anyway
21:40.15nevcairieli know, thats why i want to start download over night
21:40.16nevcairiel:)
21:40.21nymbiabeta.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion
21:40.44Mikmayou expect to get the key tomorrow? heh
21:40.52[FH]Birdemaniim frustrated that my key hasnt shown up yet
21:41.16Neronixdamn, I need to resize partitions I think
21:41.16nevcairielMikma: i dont know what to expect, but i want to be ready
21:41.28nymbiadoesnt hurt to be ready; a friend of mine got in a couple days ago and is trying like hell to get it installed, the patches keep failing :(
21:41.44otravihttp://www.blizzard.com/wow/ssotd/imageviewer.aspx?ImageIndex=15&Set=27 << should I laugh, or just cry?
21:42.00CIA-1703xinsonic * r15724 10oRA2/ (8 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: update zhTW.
21:42.00nymbiaboth.
21:42.16otraviwouldn't that be _happy_ tears?
21:42.18Mikmapremade character not available :(
21:42.20nymbiahaha
21:42.40nymbiaone of those strangled, forced laughs, maybe
21:42.50[FH]Birdemanino premades,and can only transfer level 55+ over
21:43.08Neronixdamn
21:43.15NeronixI only have a lv47
21:43.16nymbiabah, but i NEEED my bank alt!
21:43.44nymbia(not really, i'm just whining)
21:43.57malrethit's very convincing, nymbia
21:44.08Mikmaso remind me, in what server you folks are in?
21:44.22Mikma(in BC of course)
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21:46.40ckknighthey all
21:47.00Amadeosup ck
21:47.20Mikmackknight: in what server you are in BC?
21:47.29ckknightTempest Keep (EU)
21:47.37Mikmaok. gotta remember that one
21:47.41ckknightalso, grammar is a good thing.
21:47.54ckknightfor future reference.
21:47.58steino_okok
21:48.10steino_haste loves his bacon
21:48.13steino_http://www.beverpung.net/images/tg06/Refusion/Leifur.jpg
21:48.18otravihaha
21:48.29steino_(yes, that IS haste)
21:48.33cncfanaticsotravi, u were running TBC on wine too right ?
21:48.33AmadeoBacon comes in a tube?
21:48.38otravicncfanatics: Cedega
21:48.43otravisteino_: in-game :p
21:48.48Mikmackknight: how come grammar is a good thing
21:48.55Angerisi play on tempest keep aswell :P
21:48.57cncfanaticsi'm still getting this silly hard disk space error :/
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21:49.10cncfanaticsbtw: plays on tempest keep as well (and made ckk play on it)
21:49.25ckknightyou didn't make me play on it
21:49.28Amadeootravi: Those headphones kinda look like the magnified eye of a fly
21:49.51ckknightanybody else get an email from wowinterface regarding beta keys?
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21:50.22ckknightfrankly, I'm fine with my weird EU account, I don't want to take a key away from someone else just so I can play on US
21:50.43nymbiathere's no limit to the keys, ck
21:51.37AmadeoI've been playing EQ2 for a few days, and it makes me realize how good of a game WoW really is
21:52.01Mikkyou didn't realize this until now? =)
21:52.16CIA-1703joshborke * r15725 10GuildBook/ (GuildBook.lua synchronizer.lua): GuildBook: drycoded more sync stuff. removed NameCanView
21:52.20ckknightnymbia, you sure?
21:52.26arkaneshmm, error monster broke my hacked up stupidmount
21:52.30Angerisi trasferes my char and i had subtetly enchant on cloak,and it changed to +5 ressistances,wierd
21:52.32ckknightI really don't want to be a dick and take one away from someone else who deserves it
21:52.36AmadeoMikk: Not to this extent, I figured they made big changes that would make me feel differently about it by now
21:52.40nymbiack: lemme scroll up one sec
21:52.50MikkAmadeo: ah, you're excused ;)
21:53.04Cairennckknight: if you are an author on our site, you get a key if you apply for it
21:53.08AmadeoThe best part about EQ2 is the crafting, imo :)
21:53.09arkanesAngeris: I've heared a few other reports about that, and it happens all the time on the patch test servers
21:53.16ckknightokay
21:53.16Cairennwe have as many keys as we need
21:53.38Cairennafk again
21:53.38Angeris<PROTECTED>
21:53.45ag`hmm I entered to worldofwar contest, I hope I win a key
21:53.49Angerisat least i got my correct dmg enchants :)
21:53.51ckknightalright, thanks for the info, cairenn
21:54.13Amadeoag`: www.wowinterface.com
21:54.21ckknightI really should update FuBar on WoWI
21:54.27ckknightI will later today
21:54.34ckknightbbiab
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21:54.51IndustrialCairenn: oh bummer, lol
21:55.11IndustrialI stopped releasing addons :>
21:55.22Industrial(on the svn too)
21:55.33AmadeoI miss your addons :(
21:55.40Industrialy
21:55.51ag`Amadeo: Miles submitted ag_unitframes for me :)
21:56.00ag`Cairenn: ping
21:56.05Amadeoag`: Ouch, that's no fair
21:56.14arkanesany idea why hooking the UIErrorFrame to suppress error messages would prevent the UI_ERROR_MESSAGE from being sent?
21:56.20ag`well I guess I can get it fixed Amadeo
21:56.26ag`I just have to talk to Cairenn I guess
21:56.28Amadeoyeah
21:56.54vhaarrag`: Did you fix raid groups in the TBC branch yet?
21:58.02ag`vhaarr: nope, not yet...
21:59.01vhaarrokay
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22:01.47ag`we're getting there
22:03.15vhaarrag`: ooh, okay. I thought it was a simple fix and you just didn't know it was broken :)
22:04.25ag`not quite simple, but it's not far away
22:04.33ag`I have to redo the frame creation system
22:04.41ag`for raid frames
22:04.52CIA-1703kergoth * r15726 10MSBTLoot/ (ChangeLog core.lua):
22:04.52CIA-17MSBTLoot:
22:04.52CIA-17* Switch from using a local pattern for loot to modifying the
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22:09.40IndustrialI have several unitframes stacked on top of eachother: targetarget, target, player, pet, party1, party2, party3, party4
22:10.09IndustrialI use HasPetUI() to decide if the pet is active or not, and set its height to 0.01 to make it disappear
22:10.17Industrialwithout touching the anchors
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22:10.24IndustrialCan I do this with the party?
22:10.35Industrialif I have 3 party members hide the lowest one, etc
22:10.36nymbiashould be able to
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22:10.42Industrialdoes party work like that?
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22:10.58Industriallike when someone leaves member 4 becomes 3, 3 becomes 2, etc
22:11.04pastamanceryeah
22:11.06nymbiayup
22:11.06Industrialk
22:11.09Industrialgood :D
22:12.04IndustrialGetNumPartyMembers()
22:12.07arkanesIs there a slashcommand or function or something you can use to open gossip with an NPC?
22:12.52AmadeoDoes anyone currently still play EQ2?
22:13.04nymbiayou mean to simulate the rightclick, arkanes?
22:13.05Industrialhttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Gossip_Functions
22:14.09arkanesnymbia: well, to do the same action
22:14.23arkanesIndustrial: there's not one there, I was hoping there might be a slashcommand
22:15.01CIA-1703bhattu * r15728 10/branches/RoundRobin/RoundRobin.lua:
22:15.01CIA-17RoundRobin:
22:15.01CIA-17Try and come up with a way to determine if items were successfully master-looted.
22:15.01CIA-17This is all still completely untested!
22:15.10nymbiawell you can do pretty much anything with an NPC once the window's open, but there's no way to get it open other than an old-fashioned right click
22:15.22Meiunold!
22:15.41nymbiahuh?
22:15.44Industrialfashioned! (:S?)
22:15.57Industrial:3
22:15.58nymbiahaha
22:16.08Industrialnymbia: are you the author of nymbia's perl unitframes?
22:16.16nymbiayeah
22:16.19Industrialcool
22:16.21arkanestrying to macro my way through TB rep turnins
22:16.33Industrialyou helped me getting into making addons then :P
22:16.40nymbiahaha, cool :)
22:16.57nymbiaarkanes: there's a mod that does that in the trunk i think
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22:18.05arkanesnymbia: any idea what it might be called?
22:18.08nymbiaone sec
22:18.21Industrialarkanes: daunting repo isnt it :P
22:18.24nymbiahttp://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=AutoTurnin/
22:18.44nymbiai remember reading a forum thread about the TB quests not being implemented in some versions
22:19.30nymbiabut it looks like they're in the newest one
22:19.33NeronixSo there's no premades in the beta?
22:19.41[FH]Birdemanibecareful on auto turnin
22:19.51[FH]Birdemanii had the mats for my nightfall with me
22:19.52nymbianeronix: not yet, no
22:19.55[FH]Birdemaniand it turned it in first :/
22:19.59Neronix"yet" ?
22:20.02arkaneslooks nifty, thanks
22:20.08nymbiaouch birdemani
22:20.16nymbiano problem arkanes
22:20.44nymbianeronix: they had em up then took em down, my guess is they'll put some up once the level cap is 70, so people can test the raid content
22:22.26cncfanaticsthere shld be 60 premades imo :/
22:22.37cncfanaticsits anoying to test shapeshiftdriver with my only 60 char being a mage
22:22.42axxoany addon ora2 plugintype thing that will warn me when i'm moved to a diffrend group? kinda miss that from ctra
22:22.43nymbiayeah, there should.
22:23.01Neronixnymbia: I see, thanks
22:23.11cncfanaticswhile I think about it, can anyone explain me how secure templates exactly work, I read the sourcecode a few times before but I just don't get it :/
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22:24.44AKX-- @desc The magical, insane channel handler.
22:24.44AKXfunction DreamChat:ChannelHandler()
22:24.45AKX--Todo: Add magic.
22:24.45AKXend
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22:25.25pastamancerthat's a good todo note
22:25.27nymbiacnc: in a nutshell, secure templates can be inhereted by normal frames to make them able to act as they should in combat, since the secure templates have casting and targeting functions built in
22:26.45cncfanaticsyea, that I understand
22:27.09cncfanaticsI just don't understand how to get anything working with SetAttribute except leftbuttonclick behaviour of SecureActionButton
22:27.20cncfanaticsquite anoying as I need all the most advanced features for fb2 :/
22:27.30nymbiaoh
22:27.43nymbiaand you read all the example code over?
22:27.51cncfanaticsyea
22:28.04cncfanaticsi'm wondering why mine ain't working for stancechanges actualy :p
22:28.19cncfanaticswant a pastey ? maybe u cld help
22:28.47nymbiai think there's a sample mod on wowi with stance changes
22:29.03ag`gief link:D
22:29.36cncfanaticsyea, I coded my code, then checked with the sample
22:29.44cncfanaticsit looks very alike, but mine ain't working :(
22:30.10nevcairielMikma: what do you think, adjust BT2 or recreate and name BT3 for bc?
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22:30.28nymbiawell lets see it cnc
22:30.32cncfanaticsnevcariel, depends if u want to add al
22:30.38cncfanaticsall features from TBC*
22:31.05nevcairieldefine all features
22:31.17nevcairielcan i do more then i do now ? which is basicly nothing :)
22:31.36cncfanaticsnever used bartender, so I don't know its features nev :p
22:31.42cncfanaticshttp://ace.pastey.net/1992
22:32.13nevcairielits a really basic actionbar addon
22:32.18nevcairieldoes some reskinning
22:32.21nevcairieland moving
22:32.24nevcairieland thats about all :)
22:32.50NeronixBasically an action bar addon that manipulates the blizzard buttons rather than creatign new ones
22:33.03nevcairielyeah
22:33.06chuckgBongos does that?
22:33.23cncfanaticsi'm 99% sure that blizzard action buttons will be totaly locked from addon modif in TBC nevcariel
22:33.26nevcairielbongos adds more then the 5 default bars, or?
22:33.33chuckgYou can turn on "reuse".
22:33.37NeronixBongos adds new ones
22:33.39Neronixbut it can ruse
22:33.51NeronixBongos just has stuff I don't need imo
22:33.58CIA-1703eternally777 07eternally777 * r15729 10SacredBuff/ (SacredBuff.lua UI.lua):
22:33.58CIA-17SacredBuff:
22:33.58CIA-17* Hopefully this fixes the bag coordinates for the player's preferred mount not being saved correctly
22:34.04nevcairielanyway, i will need to see how stuff works once i get the client downloaded and the key
22:34.32cncfanaticsnymbia, saw my pastey ?
22:34.35nevcairieli only want a really clean actionbar addon without any shit, that was what BT2 offerd, and i helped to improve it :D
22:34.44nymbiayeah cnc, looking it over right now
22:36.20AmadeoI imagine Bongos is still a lightweight addon
22:37.03cncfanaticscompared to FB2, it will be :p Amadeo
22:37.19cncfanaticshow much mem does bongo's take on warmup anyway ?
22:37.34Amadeono idea, I don't use it anymore, but I'm curious also
22:37.44cncfanaticsi also wonder how much bartender takes
22:37.59nevcairielsince bartender is ace2, its kinda not accurate in warmup
22:38.10cncfanaticsdepends nevcariel
22:38.28cncfanaticsif no other addons except the one ur checking is loaded then it will take all that mem for itself & libs
22:38.29nevcairielunless you patched your warmup with the garbage calls
22:38.48cncfanaticstrue, but its still handy for comparison
22:38.55cncfanaticsas bartender, bongo's & fb2 all are ace'd
22:39.05nevcairielbongos is ace2 as well?
22:39.08nevcairieli didnt know that
22:39.11cncfanaticsthink so
22:39.15cncfanaticslemme verify :p
22:39.17XuerianI don't believe it has been Ace'd...
22:39.20nevcairielheh
22:39.22nymbiai think bongos is ace1
22:39.24XuerianIt doesn't necessarily need it either....
22:39.57cncfanaticsace1 addons are gonna need a lot of rewriting for TBC
22:40.08cncfanaticsI heard ace authors don't plan to port ace1, only ace2
22:40.18XuerianI really don't think it's even Ace1 =|
22:40.28nevcairielits not hard to convert an ace1 addon to ace2
22:40.31AmadeoBongos isn't an Ace addon
22:40.50Amadeobut Tuller still makes lightweight mods
22:40.51cncfanatics:o, I always thought it was ace, my bad :/
22:40.52arkanesIt's not really accurate to say that it's warmup isn't accurate
22:41.20arkanesthe increased load time is real, and the memory usage is sort of real in that you get some nasty GC action during startup
22:41.21AmadeoI use Ludwig and Sage right now
22:41.43arkanesthe downside of embedding (
22:41.45cncfanaticsonly addon I rly use is FB, kinda, but thats normal for me I guess :p
22:41.56AmadeoI used FlexBar ages ago
22:42.13cncfanaticsi'm one of the authors Amadeo :p
22:42.18AmadeoI know :)
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22:42.25cncfanaticsand tbh, FB1 is gimped :/
22:42.44cncfanaticsFB2 does nearly the same and has 1770kb mem usage compared to 5mb
22:42.51nevcairiellol
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22:42.56nevcairielyay for FB2
22:43.04cncfanaticsneh, boo for FB1
22:43.14AmadeoThe reason I don't use it is because I don't need everything it can do, I just need basic bars
22:43.39cncfanaticsbtw, anyone knows what events are triggered when spells get in/out of range ? if there is one
22:43.42Amadeoand I'm far too lazy to configure advanced stuff :)
22:44.18nevcairielthats why i use bartender, plain, simple, and if stuff is broken i can fix it since ive been fixing stuff in bartender for a while now =D
22:45.03cncfanaticsI like advanced bars with lots of scripts & events heh :p
22:45.39Tekkubheh, there's a rash of new mods on WoWI
22:45.42Tekkubwonder why?
22:45.43Tekkub^^
22:45.45nevcairielhehe
22:45.49nevcairieli uploaded a mod!
22:46.15cncfanaticsI wonder too Tekkub :p
22:46.20cncfanaticsis every author getting one or ?
22:46.22nevcairieli need to fix my other plugin for bartender tomorrow and upload that as well
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22:49.19IndustrialCairenn|afk: ping
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22:50.23nymbiacnc: i'm afraid this stuff's gonna confuse the hell out of me until i get my hands on it :(  my best guess is that there's a problem with the attribute names.. should line 23 have that -# on the end?
22:51.04arkanescncfanatics: there's no events, you have to poll if you want that
22:51.16arkanesbut you need to poll anyway, for cooldowns and such
22:51.54cncfanaticscooldowns can be event based
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22:51.58cncfanaticsand I hate onupdate code :p
22:52.03cncfanaticsonly need it for range checks
22:52.38arkanesyeah, thats right, I got confused by my own code, which has to poll for buffs
22:52.41arkanesbut not CDs
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22:53.28arkanesblizz needs to add an event for when a buff is re-applied
22:53.38nevcairielthat would rock
22:53.59nevcairielor just fire the same event as first apply
22:54.04arkanesit should be easy for the client code to do
22:54.16arkanesyeah, you have to re-scan everything anyway
22:54.21arkanesso PLAYER_BUFF_CHANGED would be fine
22:54.23nevcairielanyway, nite
22:54.40nevcairielstupid university starts way too early tomorrow
22:54.42nevcairielneed some sleep
22:54.52cncfanaticsarkanes
22:54.55cncfanaticsur US or EU ?
22:54.59arkanesUS
22:55.01zoktarisnt there a like onevent log thingy addon?
22:55.11zoktarsome addon keeps freezin my ui on inventory change
22:55.21cncfanaticsmaybe post a request for addon reapplying on the 2.0.0 thread ?
22:55.36cncfanaticsand post one for in/out of range of spells while ur at it for me :)
22:55.43cncfanaticswho knows we'll get em
22:55.54nymbiayou can probably narrow that down without needing a mod, zoktar
22:55.55arkanesyou won't get one for range, I can pretty much guarantee that
22:55.59cncfanaticswhy not ?
22:56.05zoktarso many mods so many reloggs
22:56.17arkanesit's the sort of information they don't like us to have handy
22:56.27cncfanaticswe can get it anyway with onupdate
22:56.29cncfanaticsjust spares mem
22:56.57arkanesthe client would have to do it by polling the same way our code does now
22:57.20cncfanaticsstill spares me and many other authors coding
22:57.28cncfanaticsand polling in C is much more performant then in LUA also
22:57.35zoktarcould it be onebag/onebank?
22:57.42zoktari change like 15addons a day :/
22:58.08pastamancercncfanatics: write a range-checking library :)
22:58.15cncfanaticslol
22:58.27cncfanaticswho knows :)
22:58.36nymbiacould be part of it zoktar, generally you'll have multiple addons all doing stuff when inventory items change
22:58.47cncfanaticsanyway, how hard would it be to trigger a custom event when a spell gets in/out of range?
22:59.01cncfanaticscheck with the saved value from the last onupdate and trigger the event if it changed right ?
22:59.04cncfanaticsnot THAT much code
22:59.06pastamancernot hard, but you'd have to poll
22:59.10nymbiayeah
22:59.32cncfanaticsstill lots of memory to check for potentialy 120 actionbuttons
22:59.45pastamanceryou woudn't need to check all the action buttons
22:59.49cncfanaticsbtw nymbia, found why my code for stances ain't working yet ?
22:59.58cncfanaticshow so, pastamancer ?
22:59.59zoktaryeah necronomicon, bonuscanner, outfitter, onebag/onebank, and prob more
23:00.02pastamancerscan the spellbook on login and pick one spell for each range
23:00.10AKXcncfanatics, now's the time to give your server's details, going to bed so I could start the upload now
23:00.22cncfanaticsI gave em about 3 hours ago AKX :p
23:00.26cncfanaticslemme remsg em
23:00.28nymbiacnc: one sec lemme scroll up and copy paste..
23:00.31AKXno msgwindow here.
23:00.39nymbiacnc:  cnc: i'm afraid this stuff's gonna confuse the hell out of me until i get my hands on it :(  my best guess is that there's a problem with the attribute names.. should line 23 have that -# on the end?
23:00.40Tekkubhttp://www.deviantart.com/deviation/16517287/
23:00.58arkanesyou can't check the range of a spellbook spell, it has to be on the action bar
23:01.06arkanesat least as I recall
23:01.11cncfanaticsgot my pm AKX ?
23:01.14AKXNope.
23:01.32cncfanaticskinda can't give that public
23:01.37cncfanaticsjoin the #cnc-akx chan :p
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23:02.18AKXI wonder why that didn't go through PM
23:02.38cncfanaticsprobably cuz I ain't registered and u didnt set ur modes to accept PM's from me
23:02.59zoktaror autobar, or kc_items, Manufac,TheoryCraft
23:03.13cncfanaticsarkanes, thats correct
23:03.14pastamancerTC updates a bunch of stuff on inventory change
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23:03.29zoktarhmm what bout outfitter?
23:03.33zoktarthat known to lag
23:03.35cncfanaticshow can u check how far a spell reaches btw? only tooltip scanning ?
23:03.35zoktar?
23:03.46arkanesyeah
23:03.54zoktarits based on spell range
23:03.55cncfanaticssigh
23:03.58pastamancercncfanatics: tooltips or just build a database
23:04.06nymbiazoktar: yeah it's probably a part of it as well
23:04.10cncfanaticstooltip on login is the best way I think
23:04.17zoktarhmm
23:04.40zoktariv had this problem popping back every once and a while and every time iv been removing mods to try and find wich one
23:04.48zoktardonno wich one i could of added to get it back again
23:04.54pastamancercncfanatics: that's what I plan on doing when I get beta/2.0 access
23:05.10AKXpastamancer...
23:05.18AKXdo you have the beta client?
23:05.20cncfanaticsif u were to make a range checking lib i'd hail u :p
23:05.28pastamancerAKX: nope
23:05.33AKXah.
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23:05.54AKXI mean, you can do addon dev on a cevingr freire
23:06.41AKXcncfanatics - it'll take 12 hours for the first fourth of the beta
23:06.43ckknightI have to give a speech on Jack Thompson today
23:06.45ckknightblah
23:07.03AKXMake sure you wear high heels ckknight
23:07.17AKXPerhaps he meant the subject was Thompson.
23:07.18pastamancerhmm, I wonder why there isn't a wiki page for ProximityLib
23:07.28AKXGood night!
23:07.32cncfanaticsg'night
23:07.36kergothzoktar: if i recall correctly, outfitter caused like a 400K/s ram usage spike when looting, i went back to itemrack as a result
23:08.43arkanes<PROTECTED>
23:08.50arkanesI use outfitted and have no spike issues
23:08.58arkanesoutfitter, too
23:11.36zoktarhmm
23:11.56zoktarit does freeze up when i mount change trinkets to the carrot on stick thingy
23:11.56kergothhave you run teksupport on event mode during a loot with outfitter loaded?
23:12.03kergothbecause i have
23:12.20zoktarwhats a good outfitter replacement ?
23:12.31nymbiaitemrack
23:12.59arkaneswell, I just looted something
23:13.12arkanesI didn't have teksupport loaded, but I did watch my mem usage in perfu
23:13.41arkanesand not enough to register, which means 10k or less
23:14.08arkanesI did, on the other hand, have all kinds of issues with itemrack
23:14.18arkanesespecially it's events, which were.. simplistic
23:16.16arkanesit does spike when I wear a set, though
23:16.29arkanesI bet it could benefit from a little composting
23:17.23arkanesI may have to write my own wardrobe mod some day, none of the current ones do exactly what I want anyway
23:17.34vhaarrIndeed, they all suck.
23:17.42kergothclosetgnome ftw
23:17.49vhaarr^^
23:17.53mrfujinwhats wrong with outfitter ;)
23:18.08arkanesdoes closetgnome let you define sets in terms of other sets, and does it properly maintain a set stack?
23:18.20snurreclosetgnome kinda sucks tbh :/
23:18.23arkanesso intelligent stuff happens when you add and remove partial sets?
23:18.28snurreno way to edit sets and no keybindings :(
23:18.40vhaarrIt has keybindings in TBC.
23:18.42kergothclosetgnome is simple, it doesnt handle set stacks properly, just applies the previous set
23:18.51vhaarrAnd editing sets is not needed.
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23:18.55snurreyes it is
23:18.59vhaarrIt's not.
23:19.03snurrewell
23:19.08snurrenow you have to delete and add a new set
23:19.12snurrewhich is silly
23:19.13vhaarrEquip -> Change -> Add as new and overwrite the old one.
23:19.16vhaarrNo you don't.
23:19.25vhaarrIt's even in the readme.
23:20.01CairennI know a bunch of you asked me questions in PMs but I'm just positively swamped right now and having a hard time keeping up
23:20.21snurrebut why are you so adamant about not adding keybinds before tbc?
23:20.40vhaarrI'm not adamant about not supporting it until TBC, I'm just sayin I won't implement it before TBC.
23:20.49vhaarrSomeone else is free to do it.
23:20.56vhaarrAnd it can be done with a 3rd party addon.
23:20.57snurreit's the reason im dropping it tbh, other than the funny comments there's just no reason to use it over itemrack for now
23:21.34vhaarrNot like I care if you use it, but I care if you tell me it sucks for reasons that are not sound.
23:21.48mrfujinwhat does itemrack better than outfitter ?
23:22.07snurreit sucks cause it lacks something as basic as keybindings and you cant be arsed adding it
23:22.19Silviu-No problem Cairenn
23:22.19arkanesI haven't found anything itemrack does better than outfitter
23:22.41Cairennif you asked me something before, and I haven't gotten back to you, try asking again ... in a while
23:22.43arkanesexcept arguably custom event scripts
23:22.58arkanesbut itemracks event support is generally sucky
23:23.04Arrowmasterarkanes, ive heard that memory and fps spikes when changing sets in itemrack is usually actually caused by titandurability and durabilityfu (or atleast older versions, i havent been noticing it anymore)
23:23.16arkanesArrowmaster: these are spikes in outfitter, not itemrack
23:23.45arkanesand yes, some of that is almost certainly due to my cheapo non-optimized version of durabilityfu
23:23.54vhaarrsnurre: You can easily put set equips in a macro and assign it to a action bar button and have that as a keybinding.
23:25.10snurrebut like.. why is it in TBC but not on live? is there really so much diff?
23:25.50vhaarrObviously, or I would just add it now.
23:26.24mrfujinisnt it new a newer lua version in TBC
23:26.47vhaarrAnd with all the auto-equip 3rd party addons for ClosetGnome, I don't see the problem.
23:26.57arkanesspeaking of TBC, is there still that problem with ChatFrame_OnEvent getting tainted and breaking slashcommands?
23:27.21snurreI prefer not being forced to use addons for my addons
23:27.29ckknightarkanes, it seems fine last I checked.
23:28.29arkanesdid AceConsole have to lose some functionality?
23:29.07Tekkubit didn't break slash commands
23:29.21Tekkubit broke execution of secure code
23:30.26arkanesslash commands that resulted in the execution of secure code would no doubt be broken though, correct?
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23:33.29Tekkubdunno, I'm not in the beta yet I can't test
23:33.48arkanesI'm not either, I just saw the post on wow forums and it got me thinking
23:34.04arkanesI don't see how AceTab and AceConsole can survive, or custom chat boxes
23:34.31arkanessince right now I could replicate decursive style logic with tab completion
23:35.31mrfujinyes, it is going to be really fun to heal in tbc ;)
23:39.04ckknightTekkub, hopefully you get in
23:39.15TekkubI will :)
23:39.22Tekkubwhenever the keys go out
23:39.49Cairennthere is no *hopefully*
23:39.56CIA-1703laric * r15730 10AoFHeal/AoFHeal.lua:
23:39.56CIA-17AoFHeal:
23:39.56CIA-17- Fixed the pet healing part. Spelling the variables right is important I noticed. :)
23:40.03Tekkubyea, cair hooked me up
23:40.09Tekkubtoo bad you missed out ckk
23:40.25ckknightmissed out?
23:40.37Laricgot a key tekkub.. grats :P
23:40.55Tekkubhavn't got it yet.. "It's in the mail"
23:41.03Laricstill grats
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23:44.57CIA-1703greywind * r15731 10SupplyAndDemand/SupplyAndDemand.toc:
23:44.57CIA-17SupplyAndDemand:
23:44.58CIA-17- added optionaldeps
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23:52.42zoktarmust be something else laggs the same way with itemrack and closetgnome
23:53.16vhaarrIt's just the way it is when you move lots of items, there are alot of security checks and locking and unlocking of the slots in use.
23:55.22Amadeoare you speaking of TBC, or the game in general?
23:55.48Tekkubhrm... greywind... aside from Ace those optdeps aren't needed....
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23:56.04Tekkubbut he's not in here
23:56.35AmadeoPerhaps the wind will take it to him
23:56.40vhaarrTekkub: Why are they not needed?
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23:56.58vhaarrTekkub: Since FuBar is an OptionalDep, there's nothing that guarantees the libs will be there?
23:56.59TekkubAceLibrary will find and load the lib standalones if they are present
23:57.33sbueternally777!
23:57.46sbuWTB cooldown display fuer SB :p
23:57.47sbu:)
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23:58.14CIA-1703tekkub * r15732 10SupplyAndDemand/SupplyAndDemand.toc: SupplyAndDemand - Ace2 and FuBar are the only OptDeps needed here...
23:59.18eternally777sbu: Gimme a day or two :P

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