irclog2html for #wowace on 20061028

`00:00.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`i guess you need two different things, a way to mark a zone as a connector and not use it as an instance location, like "Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj" is in "Silithus" not "Gates of Ahn'Qiraj"`
`00:00.16`	`ckknight`	`mmm... blah`
`00:00.22`	`ckknight`	`why's it gotta be so damn complicated?`
`00:00.59`	`Arrowmaster`	`bah`
`00:01.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`nvm`
`00:01.23`	`ckknight`	`don't say nvm`
`00:01.27`	`ckknight`	`I don't know how to proceed`
`00:01.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`00:01.51`	`ckknight`	`I don't play WoW, so I don't know these things`
`00:02.14`	`usz`	`well that Silithus and Gates case is a good example of complicated connections`
`00:02.27`	`usz`	`as Gates got even their own channel so are different zone`
`00:02.39`	`usz`	`and AQ20/40 are accessable from Gates`
`00:02.56`	`usz`	`still both instances are belived to be in Silithus not Gathes of AQ`
`00:03.13`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna go eat`
`00:03.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`but then you need a way to do the opposite`
`00:03.18`	`ckknight`	`someone come up with a solution`
`00:03.50`	`notMusic`	`Hm, PRAT is acting weird by default`
`00:03.56`	`usz`	`naaa trashed ItemStatsLib I was making cuz i didnt like soulution i came up with and atm buzy with just ItemStoreLib ^^`
`00:05.40`	`vhaarr`	ag`: major issue
`00:05.54`	`vhaarr`	ag`: I'm in a group and the last two players show as the same preson.
`00:06.08`	`vhaarr`	`person*`
`00:06.17`	`vhaarr`	`so instead of showing the mage and the paladin, it shows the mage twice`
`00:06.18`	`maia`	`never group with the same person twice!`
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`00:10.56`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r15364 10Autobar/ (. Autobar.toc):`
`00:10.56`	`CIA-17`	`.Autobar:`
`00:10.56`	`CIA-17`	`-Lets try to kill this damn badly named thing`
`00:15.32`	`vhaarr`	ag`: and buffs do not show
`00:15.33`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r15365 10Autobar/Autobar.toc:`
`00:15.33`	`CIA-17`	`Autobar:`
`00:15.34`	`CIA-17`	`-Die stupid file, die`
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`00:17.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`wait hinterlands connects to wpl and hillsbrad not alterac mountains right?`
`00:18.01`	`Arrowmaster`	`and whats "Zul'Aman"?`
`00:18.14`	`usz`	`correct about Hinterlands`
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`00:21.03`	`Mikma`	`krka: did you look at my suggestion in prat thread?`
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`00:23.17`	`ckknight`	`Arrowmaster, Zul'Aman's a lvl 70 instance in the Ghostlands`
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`00:25.26`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok gona have to give me a few to understand these paths before i start suggesting/correcting`
`00:25.29`	`Mikma`	`is grim batol open? :D`
`00:25.59`	ag`	`vhaarr: I know what the problem is`
`00:26.38`	ag`	`but I probably won't be able to code more until sunday`
`00:26.58`	`ckknight`	`why not?`
`00:26.59`	ag`	`It's because the unit frames aren't updated on PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED`
`00:27.22`	ag`	`because I am going to bed now, and I won't be home tomorrow at all...`
`00:27.35`	ag`	`Gotta go to work tomorrow`
`00:27.51`	`ckknight`	`ah.`
`00:28.07`	ag`	`hm, I might be able to do something fast actually... the fix should be quite simple`
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`00:30.03`	`CIA-17`	`03ag 07TBC * r15366 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:`
`00:30.03`	`CIA-17`	`ag_UnitFrames`
`00:30.03`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:30.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok so the paths[zone1] = zone2 entries are only how to go from zone1 to zone2 and cant be used the other way around right?`
`00:30.46`	`ckknight`	`right`
`00:30.49`	`ckknight`	`it's a directed graph.`
`00:31.00`	`ckknight`	`typically, paths[zone2] includes zone1, though`
`00:31.10`	`ckknight`	`only in weird cases (like Naxx) is that not the case`
`00:31.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`other weird cases like that too`
`00:31.49`	`ckknight`	`if you see in the file, we have zoneInstances now`
`00:31.53`	`ckknight`	`and that works`
`00:32.01`	ag`	`vhaarr:`
`00:32.06`	`ckknight`	`but it'd be nice if it could, essentially, be dynamically created by the paths`
`00:32.27`	ag`	`can I/you invite me/you?`
`00:32.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`like you can go from Blackrock Mountain to Molten Core, or from Blackrock Mountain to Blackrock Depths to Molten Core, but you can only go from Molten Core to Blackrock Mountain`
`00:32.42`	`eternall1777`	`Does anyone know if the event "CHARACTER_POINTS_CHANGED" fires once per talent lost when a player unlearns his talents?`
`00:33.05`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`00:33.17`	`vhaarr`	ag`: I'm doing an instance
`00:33.22`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r15367 10/trunk/ (Autobar/ xAutobar/): Renamed remotely`
`00:33.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`same applies to Blackwing Lair and Blackrock Spire`
`00:33.35`	ag`	`vhaarr: ok`
`00:33.52`	ag`	`vhaarr: can you do svn update? It should fix the problem`
`00:33.53`	`vhaarr`	ag`: but it works now :)
`00:33.56`	ag`	`it does?`
`00:33.56`	`CIA-17`	`03toadkiller * r15368 10xAutobar/: Removed file/folder`
`00:34.01`	ag`	`great, I'll go to bed now`
`00:34.11`	ag`	`just wanted to know if it worked`
`00:35.19`	`vhaarr`	ag`: thanks, works fine
`00:36.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`ckknight, i noticed the path between Searing Gorge and Loch Modan is included even though it requires a key, what about the horde only teleporter between Booty Bay and Gnomeregan`
`00:37.14`	`ckknight`	`I don't know, that was vhaarr's addition`
`00:37.37`	`ckknight`	`we can add faction-specific info`
`00:39.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`what about Timbermaw Hold? would that be good to add or just keep it as the 3 zones all connecting together`
`00:42.20`	`ckknight`	`just keep it as the three zones, I'd say`
`00:43.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok`
`00:43.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`im fixing some of the weird zone connections in northern eastern kingdoms right now`
`00:43.51`	`Tain`	`Friday night is a good night for strangely hot chicks on TV. Dr. Who's Billie Piper and Battlestar Galactica's Katee Sackhoff`
`00:44.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`Dr. Who is back on? or is it rerun?`
`00:44.51`	`ckknight`	`Arrowmaster, which connections are those?`
`00:44.55`	`Tain`	`New in the US. But almost a full season behind the UK I think.`
`00:45.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`some of the stuff with hinterlands and alterac mountains is incorrect`
`00:45.21`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`00:45.22`	`ckknight`	`okay.`
`00:47.57`	`vhaarr`	`Are you sure?`
`00:50.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`vhaarr: yeah you had alterac and hinterlands connected and not hillsbrad and hinterlands`
`00:51.00`	`vhaarr`	`"you"?`
`00:51.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`i thought ckk said you added some of the paths`
`00:51.33`	`ckknight`	`I added many of them`
`00:51.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`ah`
`00:51.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok`
`00:51.42`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr added some`
`00:51.47`	`ckknight`	`like Loch Modan to Searing Gorge`
`00:51.50`	`ckknight`	`and such`
`00:53.29`	`vhaarr`	`bad example, that's the only controversial one I added :)`
`00:54.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`im removing the connection between Durotar and Azshara since it doesnt exist`
`00:54.59`	`Mikma`	`i can't decide :P`
`00:55.02`	`Mikma`	`i respeced again`
`00:55.13`	`Mikma`	`this time back to shadow, and 3/3 of inner fire`
`00:55.14`	`ckknight`	`it exists!`
`00:55.21`	`Arrowmaster`	`does not`
`00:55.28`	`ckknight`	`it's close to Orgrimmar`
`00:55.35`	`Arrowmaster`	`lol`
`00:55.36`	`Kemayo`	`You can run north from the western gate to Orgrimmar to get there, no?`
`00:55.41`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`00:56.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`you run north from the western gates of orgrimmar into ashenvale and then goto azshara`
`00:56.25`	`Arrowmaster`	`unless you want to swim down the zoneline in the middle of the river`
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`00:58.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`im also not sure about the connection between silverpine forest and alterac mountains, i think it does exist but its just a little bit of land near the lake that nobody would ever use for traveling`
`00:58.18`	`ckknight`	`brb`
`00:58.45`	`pastamancer`	`Arrowmaster: I swim through the lake sometimes`
`00:58.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`that too`
`00:59.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`so yeah i guess its fine`
`00:59.14`	`pastamancer`	`usually only when I'm looking for herbs though`
`01:00.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`although i dont think the connection of going from alterac mountains to the back of undercity and around to tirisfal glades would be good to include`
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`01:01.43`	`Tekkub`	`I'd stick to road paths personally`
`01:02.13`	`Tekkub`	`yes there are "shortcuts", but it is a map mod essentiall, stay with official roads`
`01:02.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`then that would mean no path between silverpine and alterac`
`01:02.50`	`Tekkub`	`there is no path from SP to alt`
`01:02.55`	`Tekkub`	`only from alt to SP`
`01:02.59`	`Tekkub`	`and that's a jump`
`01:03.08`	`pastamancer`	`there's a swim`
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`01:03.15`	`pastamancer`	`but it's a stretch`
`01:03.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`or a walk along the shore`
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`01:03.45`	`Tekkub`	`shrug I say stick to roads`
`01:04.05`	`Tekkub`	`giving people who don't know their way around shortcuts that have no path is a bad idea`
`01:04.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`this is making me want to go there right now, i remember there being part of a SM quest along that shore`
`01:04.38`	`pastamancer`	`there is`
`01:04.44`	`pastamancer`	`along the east shore`
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`01:05.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`ill go ahead and remove the connection for now anyway`
`01:06.30`	`Arrowmaster`	`since if you ask for the path from silverpine to alterac valley it wouldnt tell you hillsbrad which almost everybody would go through anyway`
`01:07.11`	`ckknight`	`fair enough.`
`01:07.53`	`Arrowmaster`	`how can i get the path between two zones like /tourist path but without using my current zone?`
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`01:08.30`	`kergoth`	`http://kergoth.com/images/smokey/sm_smokey_1.jpg <- my new puppy, cute little pain in the behind`
`01:08.42`	`ckknight`	`Arrowmaster, mmm... write another slash command deal`
`01:10.35`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, that's a dog`
`01:10.40`	`ckknight`	`good for it.`
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`01:11.27`	`Mikma`	`smokey and the bandit wheeee`
`01:16.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`heh i just copyed the funtion to tinypad with local self = AceLibrary("Tourist-2.0") at the top`
`01:19.41`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Tourist can't fallback on BZ-2.0 since BZ-2.2 has translations that do not exist in 2.0.`
`01:19.48`	`ckknight`	`true.`
`01:19.56`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: I'm going to bed though, I'll fix it tomorrow if you do not do it.`
`01:21.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`any plans on making the boats/zeps faction specific?`
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`01:23.35`	`ckknight`	`internet is slow today`
`01:23.50`	`ckknight`	`Arrowmaster, mmm... not really, maybe, though.`
`01:23.51`	`Mikma`	`yeah`
`01:23.51`	`CIA-17`	`03arrowmaster * r15369 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0: corrected some paths`
`01:25.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`although they cant all be faction specific, horde still need a path to darnassus`
`01:25.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`thats about the only time i take an alliance boat`
`01:26.44`	`ckknight`	`Arrowmaster, you can travel on the other faction's lands`
`01:27.01`	`ckknight`	`it just causes the path to be more expensive than otherwise`
`01:27.28`	`ckknight`	`there is a cost associated to each zone, depending on faction and level`
`01:27.43`	`ckknight`	`so a lvl 60 may get a different path than a lvl 1`
`01:28.07`	`ckknight`	`because it'll be easier to travel through lvl 30 lands`
`01:28.07`	`ckknight`	`and such.`
`01:28.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`then maybe the boats and zeps should get a faction and level assigned to them too`
`01:29.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`level being the level of the guards around it`
`01:29.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`but only for the opposite faction`
`01:31.43`	`ckknight`	`hrm...`
`01:31.51`	`ckknight`	`I'd say they shouldn't have levels`
`01:31.54`	`ckknight`	`but factions`
`01:32.02`	`ckknight`	`the expense can be made to work without levels`
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`01:36.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`its kinda funny how i wont take alliance boats but i wont hesate to use the tram`
`01:37.24`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`01:39.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`ive made mooncloth in stormwind and rode around ironforge for over half an our once without dying, but the endless guardzerg of a civie on a boat dock scares me`
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`01:42.26`	`Amadeo`	`World of Roguecraft Episode 1 is hilarious`
`01:43.32`	`CIA-17`	`03pb_ee1 * r15370 10FuBar_MultiSpellEffect/ (5 files):`
`01:43.32`	`CIA-17`	`.FuBar_MultiSpellEffect: Initial commit.`
`01:43.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Allows you to set a custom spell/effect when right-clicking on an action bar button. Highly customizable.`
`01:44.40`	`ckknight`	`why does that start with FuBar?`
`01:44.58`	`pb_ee1`	`Because it is a plugin ;)`
`01:45.42`	`pb_ee1`	`Is there any problem with this, ckknight? :/`
`01:46.13`	`ckknight`	`seems like it should stand on its own.`
`01:46.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`addons that start with FuBar should actually do something with FuBar and not just have a FuBar icon for configuation`
`01:47.01`	`ckknight`	`the FuBar plugin for configuration should be a side thing`
`01:47.11`	`pb_ee1`	`Aha I see`
`01:47.21`	`ckknight`	`that's why BigWigs isn't FuBar_BigWigs, even though it has a FuBar config dealy`
`01:47.43`	`pb_ee1`	`You mean, a standalone addon and a FuBar_<name_of_the_addon> addon that would enable the user to use the addon menu with the FuBar?`
`01:48.04`	`pb_ee1`	`Or event, the addon should be named "MultiSpellEffect" only?`
`01:48.07`	`pb_ee1`	`even*`
`01:48.35`	`pb_ee1`	`As oRA or sRaidFrames?`
`01:48.44`	`ckknight`	`no.`
`01:48.53`	`ckknight`	`just call it MultiSpellEffect`
`01:48.59`	`ckknight`	`keep the FuBar config deal, cause it's handy`
`01:49.02`	`ckknight`	`and then you're good`
`01:49.04`	`ckknight`	`don't make two addons`
`01:49.05`	`pb_ee1`	`ok ;)`
`01:49.27`	`ckknight`	`basically, if your addon can exist without FuBar, it shouldn't start with FuBar`
`01:49.34`	`ckknight`	`even if it uses FuBarPlugin-2.0`
`01:49.43`	`pb_ee1`	`Ok`
`01:50.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`and in that case make sure independentprofile and whatever the option to allow hiding it from fubar without puting the addon into standby are enabled`
`01:50.49`	`pb_ee1`	`ok, i'm going to check these options in the API documentation`
`01:51.08`	`pb_ee1`	`Shoud I use the Relocate function to move the AddOn folder?`
`01:51.17`	`pb_ee1`	`And thanks ckknight for these informations`
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`01:52.20`	`Kalamadi`	`What did the enemy portion of HosterBar break into? I can't remember the name.`
`01:52.28`	`Arrowmaster`	`antagonist`
`01:52.39`	`Kalamadi`	`Thankee`
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`01:54.57`	`Arrowmaster`	`pb_ee1, ah the other option i was thinking of is hideWithoutStandby`
`01:55.08`	`pb_ee1`	`Arrowmaster: Thanks a lot :)`
`01:55.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`makes it so you can completely remove it from fubar without actually disabling the addon`
`01:55.43`	`pb_ee1`	`Ok I see`
`01:56.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`since not everybody would want the configuration only fubar plugins to be visable all the time`
`01:59.30`	`pb_ee1`	`Arrowmaster: Couldn't find the hideWithoutStandby option on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBarPlugin-2.0`
`01:59.49`	`ckknight`	`yea, that's not quite documented.`
`01:59.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah neither could i but i know it exists`
`01:59.58`	`ckknight`	`Anybody seen "Pulch: The Good Times"?`
`02:00.23`	`ckknight`	`I just watched it again and realized the metaphors`
`02:00.49`	`Arrowmaster`	`pb_ee1: its boolean just like .independentProfile`
`02:00.53`	`ckknight`	`well, classtime`
`02:01.48`	`pb_ee1`	`Arrowmaster: Thanks ;)`
`02:03.45`	`CIA-17`	`03fleetfoot * r15371 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble-deDE.lua:`
`02:03.45`	`CIA-17`	`BigTrouble:`
`02:03.45`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed the german translation, and with fixed i mean gave them the english translation.`
`02:04.51`	`pb_ee1`	`I would like to change the FuBar_MultiSpellEffect folder to MultiSpellEffect only. How can I do this with TortoiseSVN without messing up everything? I don't want to do anything before having some info :\|`
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`02:08.14`	`CIA-17`	`03pb_ee1 * r15372 10FuBar_MultiSpellEffect/: Removed file/folder: bad name.`
`02:10.04`	`pb_ee1`	`Hum... this did not delete the folder at http://www.wowace.com/files/`
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`02:11.06`	`CIA-17`	`03jjsheets * r15373 10Jigsaw/ (. Jigsaw.toc JigsawCore.lua icon.tga libs/): Jigsaw - First Commit`
`02:12.30`	`sylvanaar`	`i keep running into this error while trying to use AceComm, local function Encode(text, drunk) in acecomm2 line 207 text is nil`
`02:13.44`	`kergoth`	`jigsaw?`
`02:14.33`	`CIA-17`	`03pb_ee1 * r15374 10ChatLog/:`
`02:14.33`	`CIA-17`	`ChatLog: Updated externals.`
`02:14.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Missing AceAddon-2.0.`
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`02:17.38`	`sylvanaar`	`anyeone have any ideas - i can ?`
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`02:23.49`	`tekcub`	`okey, I think I got imports passing the precommit filter`
`02:23.56`	`tekcub`	`anyone got a new mod to test with?`
`02:24.33`	`Kirkburn`	`G'night all you crazy coders, you :)`
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`02:27.28`	`CIA-17`	`03pb_ee1 * r15375 10MultiSpellEffect/ (5 files):`
`02:27.28`	`CIA-17`	`.MultiSpellEffect: Initial commit.`
`02:27.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Allows you to set a custom spell/effect when right-clicking on an action bar button. Highly customizable.`
`02:27.28`	`CIA-17`	`- Moved from FuBar_MultiSpellEffect to MultiSpellEffect.`
`02:30.25`	`tekcub`	`pb_ee1, do me a favor`
`02:30.42`	`pb_ee1`	`Yep?`
`02:31.04`	`tekcub`	`remove that Multi... you just committed and do a proper import with a non-. commit note`
`02:31.06`	`tekcub`	`test it`
`02:31.11`	`tekcub`	`it should accept it now`
`02:31.34`	`pb_ee1`	`Ok tekcub, I'm doing it right now`
`02:32.45`	`pb_ee1`	`tekcub: Is it possible to remove the FuBar_MultiSpellEffect folder from http://www.wowace.com/files/?`
`02:33.12`	`tekcub`	`yes it is, but first I want the hook working right :)`
`02:33.21`	`pb_ee1`	`Yep, sure ;)`
`02:34.12`	`CIA-17`	`03pb_ee1 * r15376 10MultiSpellEffect/: Removed file/folder: non-. import.`
`02:35.59`	`tekcub`	`it working?`
`02:36.15`	`pb_ee1`	`typing the notes atm ;)`
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`02:36.21`	`tekcub`	`ah`
`02:37.09`	`pb_ee1`	`Failed :'(`
`02:37.15`	`tekcub`	`okey one sec...`
`02:37.19`	`pb_ee1`	`Invalid commit note :[`
`02:37.24`	`tekcub`	`try again`
`02:38.51`	`CIA-17`	`03pb_ee1 * r15377 10MultiSpellEffect/ (5 files):`
`02:38.51`	`CIA-17`	`MultiSpellEffect: Initial commit.`
`02:38.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Allows you to set a custom spell/effect when right-clicking on an action bar button. Highly customizable.`
`02:38.51`	`CIA-17`	`- Fourth initial commit! Upload is quite difficult today ;)`
`02:38.59`	`tekcub`	`huzzah`
`02:39.01`	`pb_ee1`	`Working ;)`
`02:39.07`	`sylvanaar`	`how do i turn on debugging in acecomm?`
`02:39.35`	`tekcub`	`what did you want removed from files?`
`02:39.51`	`pb_ee1`	`The folder FuBar_MultiSpellEffect`
`02:40.04`	`tekcub`	`doned`
`02:40.11`	`pb_ee1`	`ckknight told me it was not a correct name for this addon and explained me why ;)`
`02:40.12`	`pb_ee1`	`Thanks!`
`02:40.38`	`tekcub`	`yea since we're moving to standalones the FuBar_ part is going away`
`02:40.43`	`tekcub`	`which is prolly a good thing`
`02:41.52`	`CIA-17`	`03jjsheets * r15378 10Jigsaw/ (. JigsawCore.lua): Jigsaw - Set Externals, bugfixed AutoBuy Code.`
`02:48.36`	`sylvanaar`	`worst bug ever`
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`02:49.39`	`sylvanaar`	`does the sample code here look correct: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceComm-2.0`
`02:50.07`	`CIA-17`	`03pb_ee1 * r15379 10MultiSpellEffect/ (. MultiSpellEffect.toc):`
`02:50.07`	`CIA-17`	`MultiSpellEffect: Updating externals.`
`02:50.07`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed AceEvent-2.0 from required libs.`
`02:51.49`	`pb_ee1`	`tekcub: Do you have an idea on why the TOC information on this page does not update by itself? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ChatLog`
`02:52.04`	`tekcub`	`because Thrae and his bot are MIA`
`02:52.25`	`pb_ee1`	`MIA?`
`02:52.31`	`tekcub`	`gone`
`02:52.50`	`pb_ee1`	`What should I do to correct this then? :)`
`02:54.13`	`pb_ee1`	`;p`
`03:02.30`	`tekcub`	`find him and get the script so we can run it on the server :P`
`03:08.11`	`tekcub`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3363`
`03:08.13`	`tekcub`	`interesting :)`
`03:09.21`	`Azurewrath`	`gaaaaah... if you plan to play Gothic 3.. wait for the next 3-4 Patches...`
`03:09.54`	`tekcub`	`http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=98&Set=64`
`03:10.02`	`tekcub`	`"Some of this blood is actually mine" kek`
`03:10.59`	`Azurewrath`	`bur :)`
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`03:40.53`	`eternall1777`	`How would I convert "Interface\Icons\SpellIconName" to "Interface\\Icons\\SpellIconName" in lua? I'm trying to do it with gsub but it doesn't work too well :(`
`03:42.39`	`Arrowmaster`	`hows it not working`
`03:44.42`	`eternally777`	`It looks like I'm accidentally escaping it or something..`
`03:44.57`	`tekcub`	`%\`
`03:45.55`	`eternally777`	`string.gsub(texturePath, "\", "\\")`
`03:46.04`	`eternally777`	`Where does the % fit into that?`
`03:46.54`	`tekcub`	`"%\", "%\%\"`
`03:49.01`	`eternally777`	It tells me `)' expected near `%'
`03:49.56`	`CIA-17`	`03xinsonic * r15380 10BigWigs/ (12 files in 6 dirs): BigWigs: fix zhTW, thanks to RJRJ.`
`03:50.47`	`nazrm`	`zhTW o_O`
`03:52.40`	`tekcub`	`yea we have a few asian translators... they like to break shit`
`03:54.54`	`eternally777`	`Bah.. wtf.. why won't the second "\" show up?`
`03:55.00`	`eternally777`	`I can't even do "%\%\"`
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`04:03.30`	`tekcub`	`are you trying to do this in-game?`
`04:06.27`	`Tem`	`\\`
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`04:07.21`	`eternally777`	`Yeah.. I'm finding another way to do it. no worries.`
`04:07.51`	`tekcub`	`perhaps you're looking at the whole thing wrong?`
`04:07.57`	`tekcub`	`gimme a code snippet`
`04:08.05`	`tekcub`	`wanna see the context you're using this in`
`04:10.52`	`tekcub`	`here, maybe this will shed some light on your madness...`
`04:11.04`	`tekcub`	`ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Blah\\blah")`
`04:11.08`	`tekcub`	`grin`
`04:12.19`	`eternally777`	`http://ace.pastey.net/1876`
`04:12.20`	`eternally777`	`:P`
`04:13.12`	`tekcub`	`where's the gsub?`
`04:13.13`	`tekcub`	`:P`
`04:13.46`	`eternally777`	`ah crap.. 1 sec`
`04:14.49`	`eternally777`	`I think I figured it out`
`04:14.59`	`tekcub`	`you see it now? :)`
`04:15.02`	`eternally777`	`It's not working, but at least I know that's not the problem`
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`04:15.14`	`eternally777`	`Why does the chatframe block double back-slashes?`
`04:15.23`	`tekcub`	`it doesn't`
`04:15.28`	`eternally777`	`But it does`
`04:15.30`	`tekcub`	`you're looking at it wrong`
`04:15.35`	`eternally777`	`o`
`04:15.41`	`tekcub`	`"\\" is just like "\n" or "\t"`
`04:15.45`	`eternally777`	`Show me the light, tekcub.`
`04:16.01`	`eternally777`	`o`
`04:16.05`	`tekcub`	`'\\' <-- one char`
`04:16.12`	`tekcub`	`'\n' <-- one char`
`04:16.41`	`eternally777`	`<-- one nub`
`04:16.53`	`tekcub`	`now you get it`
`04:16.54`	`eternally777`	`I see the pattern.`
`04:17.03`	`eternally777`	`Ok`
`04:17.10`	`tekcub`	`'\\' is just an escaped char`
`04:17.21`	`CIA-17`	`03krtek * r15381 10Prat/ (22 files in 3 dirs):`
`04:17.21`	`CIA-17`	`Prat :`
`04:17.21`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:17.21`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:17.21`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`04:17.23`	`CIA-17`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:17.46`	`tekcub`	`just like how "%\" is an escaped char in the regex earlier`
`04:19.43`	`eternally777`	`Yeah`
`04:21.29`	`eternally777`	`Alright, I'm going to bed. thanks for the help`
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`04:39.13`	`tekcub`	`http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20061028`
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`04:41.01`	`mjc`	`drunk =win`
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`04:45.34`	`mjc`	`wb ck`
`04:48.39`	`kergoth`	`s/me/him/`
`04:50.47`	`mjc`	`kergoth: sucks`
`04:54.20`	`mjc`	`kergoth: hows your php`
`04:55.06`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`04:55.06`	`kergoth`	`used to be great, bit rusty now`
`04:55.08`	`kergoth`	`hey ck`
`04:55.30`	`mjc`	`kergoth: might be able to convince my boss to hire you if you consider fl`
`04:55.33`	`mjc`	`www.cruiseplanners.com`
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`05:12.13`	`mjc`	`wb ck`
`05:12.41`	`mjc`	`6 drinks in 2.5hrs = win`
`05:29.22`	`_DrDre`	`how fast is your upload on a biz RR line ck?`
`05:35.35`	`ckknight_`	`oh`
`05:35.36`	`ckknight_`	`um`
`05:35.41`	`ckknight_`	`haven't stressed it`
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`05:44.41`	`AxiumKT`	`Xuerian_Alt: I've been getting lua errors in acehook from the latest xloot, did something change in acehook?`
`05:44.56`	`Xuerian_Alt`	`Gar... I as hoping that was just me`
`05:45.32`	`AxiumKT`	`there a build you can roll back to and not have that poppin up?`
`05:46.16`	`Xuerian`	`Yea, let me work on it`
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`05:53.47`	`CIA-17`	`03xuerian * r15382 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Reverting to previous revision to avoid AceHook errors till I'm awake enough to fix it.`
`05:53.57`	`AxiumKT`	`lol`
`05:53.58`	`AxiumKT`	`thanks :P`
`05:54.42`	`Xuerian`	`Master won't work, nor will monitor :P I merged helper functions in that revision.... gotta figure out why tsvn isn't wanting to let me revert locally before I roll them back`
`05:55.04`	`AxiumKT`	`eh i'm just grinding some rep so no worries :P`
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`05:58.15`	`vurlix`	`so um..... could something please be done about having _4_ Autobar directories on wowace.com/files (also listed in winaceupdater)`
`05:59.19`	`vurlix`	`nvm every mod was duplicated once for some reason, seems ok now, but there's still 2 autobar dirs`
`06:00.52`	`CIA-17`	`03xuerian * r15383 10XLootMaster/XLootMaster.lua: XLootMaster: Re-merged utility functions to account for XLoot rollback.`
`06:14.14`	`DrDre`	`ugh .net >< WTB WinAceUpdator conversion to VB6 or C++`
`06:17.22`	`ckknight`	`why?`
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`06:17.41`	`ckknight`	`.NET's a good framework for Windows`
`06:21.26`	`pastamancer`	`I would never wish VB6 upon anyone`
`06:23.03`	`ckknight`	`right.`
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`06:23.19`	`ckknight`	`so DrDre, what's with the .NET hate but VB6 love?`
`06:23.21`	`ckknight`	`I just don't get it`
`06:23.41`	`DrDre`	`.net is slow as hell :p`
`06:23.44`	`ckknight`	`no it's not.`
`06:23.53`	`DrDre`	`on loadup it is`
`06:24.04`	`DrDre`	`WAU took like 30s to open on me`
`06:24.13`	`DrDre`	`this guy in FFXI`
`06:24.17`	`DrDre`	`codes his apps in .net`
`06:24.33`	`DrDre`	`and everyone bitches bout it cause they are so slow on load, yet every app ppl code in other stuff is instant`
`06:24.39`	`ckknight`	`30s?`
`06:24.45`	`ckknight`	`that's not right`
`06:24.54`	`ckknight`	`probably something wrong with your setup`
`06:24.59`	`DrDre`	`well i was burning a dvd >_>`
`06:25.38`	`DrDre`	`im jus not that fond of .net after dealing with that guy in FFXI's apps lol`
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`06:26.16`	`DrDre`	`can finally delete this iso/rar's for Big Ass Emulator Disc for xbox :o finally got around to burning it`
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`06:29.20`	`ckknight`	`it's a lot faster, easier, and more stable to write apps in .NET than it is in VB6 or C++`
`06:29.21`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`06:29.27`	`ckknight`	`dev is faster, I mean`
`06:29.41`	`CIA-17`	`03xuerian * r15384 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Adding util functions lost in XLoot rollback to maintain functionality.`
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`06:31.04`	`abbat`	`morning ;)`
`06:33.33`	`DrDre`	`background of the official forums changed to a tbc background O.o`
`06:33.58`	`ckknight`	`prolly for Halloween`
`06:34.44`	`DrDre`	`yeah it does have the haloween look :p its that forest near be starting area, dunno name`
`06:35.44`	`DrDre`	`i hope the 2.0 patch is released soon :( i have like nothing to do but mine for money/jewelcrafting prep`
`06:35.58`	`DrDre`	`not wasting my time aquirring zg/t1 loot`
`06:36.29`	`ckknight`	`soon'll probably be a month at best`
`06:37.04`	`DrDre`	`lol @ candycorn avatars`
`06:37.24`	`ckknight`	`DrDre, it's Ghostlands`
`06:37.40`	`ckknight`	`northern part`
`06:38.10`	`DrDre`	`wow`
`06:38.21`	`ckknight`	`what?`
`06:38.26`	`DrDre`	`alliance crying that horde got a premade AV going and won`
`06:39.07`	`DrDre`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=40684513&sid=1`
`06:40.30`	`ckknight`	`premades?`
`06:40.31`	`ckknight`	`wtf?`
`06:40.37`	`ckknight`	`you can join as a group.`
`06:44.20`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`06:44.22`	`ckknight`	`apparently not`
`06:45.03`	`evl`	`Hmms`
`06:45.08`	`evl`	`I don't get how MrPlow sorts :D`
`06:48.17`	`DrDre`	`lol ckk you played wow lately?`
`06:48.25`	`DrDre`	`or bg i mean :p`
`06:48.32`	`ckknight`	`no`
`06:48.43`	`ckknight`	`why?`
`06:49.14`	`Fisker`	`btw`
`06:49.23`	`Fisker`	`i already got the idea for the bestest addon ever`
`06:49.40`	`Fisker`	`Manually selec the level the rating should be calculated for`
`06:49.41`	`Fisker`	`in TBC`
`06:53.56`	`Fisker`	`has acehook been updated again?`
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`06:55.07`	`ckknight`	`not to my knowledge`
`06:55.45`	`Fisker`	`i get a prety insane error, but i'll just try updating`
`06:56.52`	`Fisker`	`ah`
`06:56.56`	`Fisker`	`looks like an oskin errror`
`06:57.12`	`Fisker`	[2006/10/28 08:56:35-174]: oSkin\core.lua:161: AceHook-2.1: Bad argument #2 to `HookScript' (table expected, got nil)
`06:57.14`	`Fisker`	`or what?`
`07:00.02`	`Fisker`	`and my framerate is around 2 because of it :P`
`07:01.17`	`ckknight`	`that's oSkin's fault...`
`07:01.42`	`Fisker`	`yeah`
`07:01.50`	`Fisker`	`quickly found out of that`
`07:02.03`	`Fisker`	`it's trying to skin KLHTM`
`07:02.29`	`Fisker`	`when i closed the frame my framerate went up to the usual 60 instead of 2 :P`
`07:04.08`	`vurlix`	`I'm gonna rewrite WinAceUpdater in pure C`
`07:04.31`	`Fisker`	`do C#!`
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`07:04.47`	`vurlix`	`it's already written in C#`
`07:04.53`	`Fisker`	`heh`
`07:05.13`	`That1Swede`	`Mmm.. I like the improved RegenFu.`
`07:06.01`	`evl`	`why rewrite it from .NET`
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`07:06.08`	`evl`	`you get so much free stuff in C# imho`
`07:06.12`	`evl`	`that are a fucking PITA in C`
`07:06.55`	`vurlix`	`i find C very easy`
`07:07.28`	`evl`	`It's a great program btw :)`
`07:07.40`	`vurlix`	`(i didn't write the C# version)`
`07:07.44`	`evl`	`ah :)`
`07:07.56`	`vurlix`	`it's nifty but there are things i don't like about it`
`07:08.00`	`evl`	`I'd really like some better sorting, backup option, fetch elder version`
`07:08.02`	`evl`	`and finally`
`07:08.04`	`ckknight_`	`example, vurlix?`
`07:08.07`	`evl`	`a library stacker would be UBER`
`07:08.22`	`evl`	`say it scrummages addons for libraries and consolidates them to one version`
`07:08.27`	`evl`	`aka fix zips problem :D`
`07:08.40`	`vurlix`	`1) it doesn't have any configuration for updating mods from locations OTHER than the wowace site`
`07:08.56`	`ckknight`	`oh, you talking about WAU`
`07:09.04`	`ckknight`	`I thought you were talking about C# in general :-P`
`07:09.11`	`vurlix`	`yeah WAU`
`07:09.23`	`vurlix`	`2) frankly it is too slow for my liking`
`07:09.47`	`vurlix`	`3) C#`
`07:09.54`	`evl`	`too slow? :)`
`07:10.13`	`evl`	`it's very dependent on network conditions`
`07:10.14`	`vurlix`	`i like C# the language itself but i don't like the implementations`
`07:10.33`	`vurlix`	`just like i don't like java... crappiest implementation i've ever sono`
`07:10.35`	`vurlix`	`seen*`
`07:10.56`	`evl`	`i code actionscript for a living so`
`07:11.01`	`evl`	`don't feel your pain there :P`
`07:11.21`	`Fisker`	`i can join the java = crap van :P`
`07:11.46`	`vurlix`	`for some people C# and java are irreplaceable time savers.. but to me it only lowers quality of software`
`07:11.58`	`evl`	`c# isn't that bad :)`
`07:12.03`	`evl`	`compared to java`
`07:12.07`	`vurlix`	`well yeah c# is better than java`
`07:12.11`	`evl`	`atleast they have big standard library`
`07:12.19`	`ckknight`	`I prefer not to worry about pointers or buffer overflows, and to have a nice standard library to use.`
`07:12.25`	`weab`	`ruby!`
`07:12.36`	`ckknight`	`now if you want slow...`
`07:12.39`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
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`07:13.24`	`weab`	`i was just hoping to start an argument. looks like i failed`
`07:13.50`	`vurlix`	`the only other language besides C that i would probably like working with is OCaml, but so far i've been unable to master its syntax and API.. i can't make anything practical with it`
`07:14.01`	`ckknight`	`I don't like C's syntax.`
`07:14.30`	`Fisker`	`this sucks`
`07:14.38`	`vurlix`	`i agree C has warts, but i can live with those warts better than other languages' warts`
`07:14.39`	`evl`	`Ruby <3`
`07:14.41`	`Fisker`	`i still got 2 alts left and i can't get their snowballs sold`
`07:15.30`	`vurlix`	`C has severe name mangling problems when working with large projects`
`07:16.07`	`vurlix`	`if you're not careful, memory management can be a big source of headaches`
`07:16.29`	`ckknight`	`yes it can.`
`07:18.22`	`vurlix`	`need a name for this little C updater project... WoW Addon Updater is a bit plain`
`07:18.47`	`Fisker`	`Fisker's 31337 Addon Update`
`07:18.55`	`Fisker`	`oh wait`
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`07:24.46`	`ckknight`	`mmm... what kind of draenei should I make?`
`07:24.59`	`ckknight`	`(not pally)`
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`07:28.37`	`weab`	`shaman.`
`07:29.34`	`ckknight`	`I made a hunter`
`07:29.59`	`tekcub`	`hunters suck`
`07:30.11`	`tekcub`	`make a white mage, all galka should play magi`
`07:30.24`	`tekcub`	`I mean, priest.. dranei`
`07:30.28`	`tekcub`	`same diff`
`07:30.33`	`ckknight`	`galka?`
`07:30.54`	`tekcub`	`sigh we've been over this...`
`07:31.00`	`tekcub`	`dranei == galka`
`07:31.07`	`ckknight`	`mmm... what's a galka?`
`07:31.19`	`weab`	`http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=galka&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi`
`07:31.25`	`weab`	`some final fantasy thing`
`07:31.35`	`tekcub`	`http://www.randomdialogue.net/albums/ffxiarmorgalka/galka_m_f_12.jpg`
`07:31.43`	`tekcub`	`galka beastmaster == furry`
`07:32.43`	`ckknight`	`that's not a draenei.`
`07:33.01`	`weab`	`i'd have to agree that it doesn't really look anything like a draenei`
`07:33.43`	`tekcub`	`yea but dranei are the best galka replacement so far`
`07:33.50`	`tekcub`	`since tauren just didn't cut it`
`07:34.01`	`tekcub`	`it's the tail really`
`07:34.09`	`ckknight`	`Tauren have tails`
`07:34.13`	`weab`	`tauren are too good to be compared to ff`
`07:34.48`	`tekcub`	`but tauren don't have big sexy tails`
`07:34.54`	`tekcub`	`they're like, skinny`
`07:35.13`	`ckknight`	`so? they're cows.`
`07:35.31`	`tekcub`	`yes well... the cow tail just doesn't really do it for me`
`07:36.46`	`ckknight`	`no one cares what kind of tails you jerk off to.`
`07:36.50`	`ckknight`	`hate to break it to you.`
`07:37.41`	`tekcub`	`you asked what to make, I gave you my opinion :P`
`07:37.54`	`tekcub`	`not my fault you don't like my reasoning`
`07:38.32`	`sergio`	`...`
`07:38.46`	`ckknight`	`one thing that would be nice, imo, is if you could make a Broken face on your draenei`
`07:38.59`	`That1Swede`	`Argh. Is there a good 'error message' catcher that displays the error messages in a nice big copy/pasteable window?`
`07:39.15`	`weab`	`bugsack.`
`07:40.00`	`ckknight`	`ah, I'm making a shaman instead`
`07:40.07`	`ckknight`	`what should I name him?`
`07:40.13`	`weab`	`FROSTSHAWK`
`07:40.38`	`tekcub`	`Totemenvy?`
`07:40.54`	`tekcub`	`Woody`
`07:41.07`	`ckknight`	`I always use real names, not shitty names`
`07:41.13`	`tekcub`	`Joe`
`07:41.18`	`ckknight`	`hrm...`
`07:41.21`	`CIA-17`	`03greywind * r15385 10Rep2/ (. Rep2.lua Rep2.toc): Rep2: initial import for Nirek`
`07:41.26`	`ckknight`	`I would, but that's my dad's name`
`07:41.32`	`tekcub`	`Howard`
`07:41.55`	`tekcub`	`Huslu`
`07:41.57`	`ckknight`	`Howard it is`
`07:42.05`	`sergio`	`Howard the duck`
`07:42.06`	`Fisker`	`i hope it's already taken`
`07:42.13`	`ckknight`	`it's not, Fisker`
`07:42.16`	`ckknight`	`Howard, great shaman of the Alliance`
`07:42.17`	`Fisker`	`then i hate myself`
`07:42.21`	`ckknight`	`why?`
`07:42.29`	`ckknight`	`are you a Howard?`
`07:42.30`	`Fisker`	`should've made a draenei called howard`
`07:42.33`	`sergio`	`he's emo`
`07:43.28`	`ckknight`	`~wrists`
`07:43.35`	`purl`	`Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road! http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/makeitcount.jpg`
`07:43.35`	`Fisker`	`indeed`
`07:44.19`	`Fisker`	`there's a better one :D`
`07:45.07`	`That1Swede`	`Pewp..`
`07:45.13`	`That1Swede`	`[2006/10/28 02:44:42-1]: FuBar\FuBar.lua:1382: attempt to index a nil value`
`07:47.39`	`Fisker`	`120 runecloth left`
`07:47.42`	`Fisker`	`120 stacks ofc`
`07:48.02`	`Fisker`	`then i'll have a hawkstrider(QQ want cockatrice back) from launch day :P`
`07:48.22`	`tekcub`	`hrm......`
`07:48.28`	`tekcub`	`interesting idea...`
`07:48.28`	`evl`	`NE mount ftw :)`
`07:48.30`	`evl`	`completely silent`
`07:48.31`	`evl`	`<3`
`07:48.40`	`tekcub`	`too bad the elephants seem to be not very interesting`
`07:49.18`	`Fisker`	`hawkstrider = horde on mechanostriders :D`
`07:49.18`	`tekcub`	`I'd much rather have a chocobo... too bad I don't have a hordie high enough`
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`08:02.32`	`krka`	`Mikma: i am not involved with Prat in any way`
`08:02.44`	`Fisker`	`dun dun dun`
`08:09.35`	`ckknight_`	`~framexml`
`08:09.38`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip`
`08:11.03`	`tekcub`	`http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,71997-0.html?tw=rss.technology`
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`08:17.55`	`Greywind`	`tekcub: is Inbed written in Lua 5.0?`
`08:18.05`	`tekcub`	`shrug`
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`08:24.46`	`CIA-17`	`03thisterhall * r15386 10XAD/Plugins/ (Food.lua Water.lua): XAD - fix for percent based food/water.`
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`08:26.42`	`CIA-17`	`03greywind * r15387 10Rep2/Libs/: Rep2 - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)`
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`08:28.27`	`tekcub`	`grin`
`08:28.33`	`Neronix`	`http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1162020895852.jpg`
`08:28.56`	`tekcub`	`Greywind, I know there are some libs missing from InBed, add them if you need them... it'll error on you if it finds one`
`08:29.25`	`Greywind`	`k`
`08:29.57`	`Greywind`	`I will keep an eye out for em`
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`08:36.25`	`grzesieq`	`hmm, some mirror seems to be out of sync`
`08:39.54`	`grzesieq`	`hrhrhr`
`08:40.02`	`grzesieq`	`this is really getting on my nerves`
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`08:40.38`	`CIA-17`	`03greywind * r15388 10Rep2/ (. Rep2.toc):`
`08:40.38`	`CIA-17`	`Rep2:`
`08:40.38`	`CIA-17`	`- testing 123`
`08:41.54`	`CIA-17`	`03greywind * r15389 10Rep2/Rep2.toc: Rep2 - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed)`
`08:41.58`	`Greywind`	`aha`
`08:42.02`	`Greywind`	`now it works`
`08:42.18`	`[Ammo]`	`morning`
`08:42.28`	`chuckg`	`What does the "pvp cooldown" mean in HonorFu?`
`08:42.30`	`Wobble`	`woot`
`08:42.39`	`Wobble`	`I've hit 20,000 downloads =)`
`08:42.51`	`vhaarr`	`morning ammo`
`08:43.12`	`tekcub`	`hey ammo... two things for you...`
`08:43.13`	`Wobble`	`with the most popular being FuXPfu =P`
`08:43.23`	`Greywind`	`tekcub: I love you, now to make Inbed delete its temp files under windows without having to set a variable to either windows or linux and to make it work under lua 5.1`
`08:43.28`	`tekcub`	`1: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Flyspray_Leftovers`
`08:44.02`	`tekcub`	`Greywind, no clue, it works on my linux box so that's all I implemented :)`
`08:44.15`	`tekcub`	`ammo, 2: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3363`
`08:44.52`	`Greywind`	`np, it works fine for me, just have to delete its temp files, I dont mind having to versions of lua on my system heh`
`08:45.04`	`Greywind`	`to>two`
`08:45.17`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r15390 10BigWigs/BWL/Razorgore.lua: BigWigs (Razorgore): missed **** nukage in zhTW`
`08:45.25`	`tekcub`	`I'm running whatever lua Synaptic downloaded, figgered it was 5.1`
`08:45.39`	`[Ammo]`	`tekcub: someone else mentioned those imba boss mods`
`08:45.49`	`Wobin`	`oh wow`
`08:45.50`	`[Ammo]`	`they don't look that useful to me actually :)`
`08:45.54`	`Wobin`	`I like the raidicons on the minimap`
`08:45.58`	`[Ammo]`	`specially the heigan thing`
`08:46.04`	`tekcub`	`just wanted to point out the competition :)`
`08:46.07`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`08:46.28`	`tekcub`	`things like the heigan thing are exactly why I designed BigWigs to handle plugins`
`08:46.46`	`ckknight_`	`chuckg, how much time you have till you come out of being flagged`
`08:47.03`	`chuckg`	`Yea got it figured out, didn't have pvp flag showing.`
`08:47.07`	`chuckg`	`Danka.`
`08:47.30`	`chuckg`	`Now to figure out what this FSR junk is in my regenfu!`
`08:47.46`	`vhaarr`	`Five Second Rule.`
`08:47.52`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r15391 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0: Add Shattrath City - Nagrand path.`
`08:48.10`	`chuckg`	`Well I knwo what it means.`
`08:48.13`	`[Ammo]`	`woot`
`08:48.16`	`chuckg`	`But it's got some settings that are rather cumbersome!`
`08:48.21`	`[Ammo]`	`unthrottled onupdates in IMBA :p`
`08:48.23`	`Wobin`	`vhaarr: How long you can leave a piece of food on the ground before it's inedible =P`
`08:48.31`	`chuckg`	`"mana per int" and "mana regen per spir"`
`08:49.14`	Arrowmaster`	`just ignore it and cut2feel`
`08:49.25`	`vhaarr`	`Wobin: rofl, that reminds me, one time when I was in the construction business, at our lunch break, my partner dropped his food on the floor and said "oh well, only people we know walked on this floor" and ate it anyway :P`
`08:49.46`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`08:50.11`	`vhaarr`	`construction business = dirty floor, mind you`
`08:50.12`	`Wobin`	`Well, that's kinda true. In my parents house, I'm more likely to do something like that, since I know who's been around and how clean my mother tends to be =P`
`08:50.36`	`vhaarr`	`yeah`
`08:50.44`	`grzesieq`	`hrhrhr`
`08:50.50`	`vhaarr`	`But the lunch trailer/cabin is NOT your mothers kitchen.`
`08:50.53`	`grzesieq`	`can you stop commiting for like 15 minutes?`
`08:50.54`	`Wobin`	`muhaha`
`08:50.55`	`[Ammo]`	`but we could creatively add some 'extras' to bigwigs :p`
`08:51.05`	`grzesieq`	`i'm getting svn: No such revision all the time`
`08:51.05`	`[Ammo]`	`his methods ain't the most efficient`
`08:51.05`	`sergio`	`5 second rule = law`
`08:51.06`	`sergio`	`okay`
`08:51.23`	`tekcub`	`tried WAU?`
`08:51.25`	`tekcub`	`:P`
`08:51.34`	`grzesieq`	`I play on a mac.`
`08:51.51`	`tekcub`	`fucking hippies, I knew you were gonna say that`
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`08:52.11`	`vhaarr`	`Tried any other RCS? Because no other RCS borks out when updating if someone else committed.`
`08:52.33`	`grzesieq`	`feel free to sponsor my MBP, I'll play on windows then :P`
`08:52.35`	`evl`	`Would be so cooo`
`08:52.36`	`evl`	`cool`
`08:52.41`	`evl`	`With a GuildWars-ish minimap addon`
`08:52.52`	`tekcub`	`MBP?`
`08:52.55`	`evl`	`that allowed you to draw on the minimap and everyone in your group/raid saw it`
`08:52.57`	`grzesieq`	`macbook pro`
`08:53.15`	`tekcub`	`hippies piss me off..`
`08:53.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`why so we can write curse words and draw penis's while in the middle of 5mans?`
`08:53.34`	`Wobin`	`PENUS`
`08:53.41`	`Wobin`	`hurhur`
`08:53.57`	`evl`	`Hmms not really`
`08:54.00`	`evl`	`just more like tactics`
`08:54.02`	`evl`	`but penis also viable`
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`08:54.19`	`evl`	`Disturbing that the first thing you though of was that :D`
`08:54.41`	`Wobin`	`Well our guild's standard tactics for most 5 mans is "Well.. we go in, hit him, and take their pants."`
`08:55.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`because i played guildwars, i know what the minimap gets used for`
`08:55.17`	`Wobin`	`Otherwise it's Plan B: Stupid Amounts Of Damage.`
`08:55.33`	`evl`	`Well guildwar isn't a PVE raiding game is it?`
`08:56.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`well it was a pve game when i first started playing it =)`
`08:56.37`	`evl`	`so you're saying that a raiding guild would simply use it to write penis on the minimap`
`08:56.40`	`evl`	`good thinking`
`08:56.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`no thats not what im saying`
`08:57.10`	`evl`	`<Arrowmaster> why so we can write curse words and draw penis's while in the middle of 5mans?`
`08:57.14`	`evl`	`then what are yoy saying? :P`
`08:57.28`	`tekcub`	`Arrowmaster, http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=139`
`08:57.31`	`Arrowmaster`	`that when its not needed people would draw penis`
`08:57.38`	`tekcub`	`god that one was way back there, took a bit to find`
`08:58.29`	`Wobin`	`not really worth the effort, Tek =P`
`08:58.59`	`tekcub`	`whateva`
`08:59.21`	`Wobin`	`vgcats tends to be hit and miss sometimes`
`08:59.33`	`Wobin`	`not as hit and miss as pennyarcade though`
`08:59.46`	`tekcub`	`VG is too infrequently updated`
`08:59.51`	`tekcub`	`so it has a higher hit ratio`
`08:59.54`	`Arrowmaster`	`now the placeable icons, thats perty cool and i could see as useful`
`09:00.26`	`Wobin`	`Arrowmaster: I like the raidicons on the minimap, would be useful in Ossirian`
`09:01.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`how the hell does that even work in IMBA?`
`09:01.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`does it actually work in instances`
`09:02.00`	`[Ammo]`	`ofcourse it does`
`09:02.00`	`evl`	`create a layer over the minimap`
`09:02.04`	`evl`	`do some coords calculations`
`09:02.05`	`[Ammo]`	`but they're not moving`
`09:02.09`	`[Ammo]`	`I think`
`09:02.37`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah but does it stay in the correct place if you move around?`
`09:02.44`	`[Ammo]`	`probably not`
`09:02.44`	`tekcub`	`how can they work in an instance?`
`09:02.57`	`[Ammo]`	`because they work on the minimap, not the world XY coords`
`09:03.00`	`tekcub`	`everyone would have to stand on the same spot when they're set`
`09:03.13`	`[Ammo]`	`checking how they work :p`
`09:03.27`	`tekcub`	`cause you couldn't figger out your pos relative to the leader's`
`09:04.43`	`[Ammo]`	`I have no clue how they work`
`09:04.46`	`[Ammo]`	`would have to start it`
`09:04.48`	`evl`	`WTB armchair alchemist ace2 :(`
`09:04.52`	`[Ammo]`	`but it looks like just a simple .xml`
`09:04.56`	`[Ammo]`	`with the raid icons in a position`
`09:05.00`	`[Ammo]`	`and you can drag each individual one`
`09:05.11`	`[Ammo]`	`so it would mean everyone would have to be in the same spot`
`09:05.37`	`Greywind`	`oh woot, converted Inbed to lua 5.1`
`09:05.57`	`Greywind`	`it helps to have my own svn server to test stuff hehe`
`09:06.10`	`[Ammo]`	`the tankfinder is kinda silly`
`09:06.15`	`[Ammo]`	`it only checks for warriors :p`
`09:06.38`	`Wobin`	`evl: hm, now that we have pt-2.0 I may do so`
`09:06.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`what does it even do?`
`09:07.05`	`[Ammo]`	`"Finds the 3 warriors within 30 yds with the lowest health"`
`09:07.41`	`sergio`	`jej rdx6 has a grid like component now`
`09:07.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok so its useless`
`09:07.44`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`09:07.47`	`Wobin`	`2k latency`
`09:07.51`	`Wobin`	`this is not good`
`09:08.11`	`Mery`	`look in main\IMBA_Minimap.lua : he is replacing minimap pings`
`09:08.23`	`sergio`	`http://www.rdx-raid.com/images/shots/raid_grid.jpg`
`09:08.29`	`Mery`	`so they probably should only for for units not mobs`
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`09:11.49`	`vhaarr`	`Oh my god ..`
`09:12.02`	`Greywind`	`what enviroment system variable would exist on a linux box but wouldnt exist on a windows box? why i need it is because I need certain functions to only be run on linux or windows but not on both using lua 5.1`
`09:12.11`	`vhaarr`	`sergio: That's very nice ..`
`09:12.28`	`Mery`	`well or not, I don't see him resending the minimap pings...`
`09:12.30`	`vhaarr`	`That's the 3rd addon RDX has completely ripped from wowace?`
`09:12.55`	`vhaarr`	`Or wowace-affiliated developers, if you wish.`
`09:13.00`	`sergio`	`i was just pointing out because of that not because it was nice`
`09:13.22`	`sergio`	`i just wasn't uh, blunt`
`09:13.28`	`vhaarr`	`I know.`
`09:13.33`	`vhaarr`	`I was being sarcastic.`
`09:13.43`	`sergio`	`SAME INTERWEB`
`09:13.52`	`sergio`	`er`
`09:14.41`	`weab`	`oh gay. i have to train innervate`
`09:14.46`	`ckknight_`	`vhaarr, they stole code?`
`09:14.58`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight_: I don't think so, no, just the idea.`
`09:15.00`	`sergio`	`i doubt it`
`09:15.02`	`ckknight_`	`hrm`
`09:15.09`	`sergio`	`it's just the idea`
`09:15.30`	`axxo`	`notting wrong with that`
`09:15.37`	`ckknight_`	`well, if they ever steal code, it's C&D time. They shouldn't be making money off the wowace devs' work.`
`09:15.46`	`ckknight_`	`as long as they don't, it's fine by me :-P`
`09:16.01`	`vhaarr`	`yeah, it's fine, it's just that they keep doing it`
`09:16.06`	`sergio`	`i don't think anyone cares enough to check`
`09:16.18`	`ckknight_`	`after all, I kinda ripped off a whole bunch of titan plugins, and titan itself`
`09:16.29`	`vhaarr`	`but I doubt they copied any code, their codebase is vastly different and they don't use any Ace libs`
`09:16.29`	`ckknight_`	`and I ripped off Cosmos' libs in writing Ace2 :-P`
`09:16.45`	`sergio`	`are you charging 25 bux + a monthly fee?`
`09:17.09`	`Arrowmaster`	`hmm the "Skein" feature is kinda interesting but looks like it would take up a lot of screen space`
`09:17.10`	`Wobin`	`o.O ie more than the WoW subscription?`
`09:17.34`	`Wobin`	`oh, not 25 bucks a month`
`09:17.35`	`weab`	`Arrowmaster: it's not like healers look at anything else! :p`
`09:17.49`	`[Ammo]`	`RDX got shafted by blizzard bigtime`
`09:17.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`"Although we strongly recommend the guild membership option, we will also offer a single-user option for a $25.00 USD setup fee and $7.50 USD/month."`
`09:17.54`	`[Ammo]`	`no-one is going to pay for their product now`
`09:18.08`	`ckknight_`	`how did they get shafted by Blizz?`
`09:18.10`	`[Ammo]`	`specially when there's the grid alternative`
`09:18.13`	`sergio`	`there's nothing interesting in RDX anymore`
`09:18.23`	`[Ammo]`	`well their whole unique thing was the query based lists`
`09:18.30`	`sergio`	`he hasn't released anything good except screenshots`
`09:18.32`	`[Ammo]`	`with the dynamic lists nuked by blizz it's over for htem`
`09:18.47`	`[Ammo]`	`they lost their one unique selling point`
`09:18.48`	`sergio`	`the whiteboard thing hasn't been released afaik`
`09:18.56`	`sergio`	`and the combatlog feature hasn't either`
`09:18.57`	`[Ammo]`	`there's plenty of alternatives`
`09:19.29`	`Worf`	`well - what licence are all the addons :)`
`09:20.07`	`ckknight_`	`which addons, Worf?`
`09:20.38`	`[Ammo]`	`"The major new features are a few new UnitFrame shaders that allow something I call the Raid Grid, which is what (I think) will be the major tool for dispelling stuff in Burning Crusade.`
`09:20.40`	`Worf`	`ckknight: that was mostly a rethorical question. hardly anyone stated a licence ...`
`09:20.43`	`[Ammo]`	`Raid Grid (aka Click the Pretty Lights, Whack-a-Mole, etc.)`
`09:20.45`	`[Ammo]`	`"`
`09:21.01`	`ckknight`	`Worf, it's all rights reserved unless stated otherwise.`
`09:22.16`	`sergio`	`can lua make any sort of socket connections in wow`
`09:22.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres always going to be people trying to claim they came up with the 'whack-a-mole' idea, like how somebodys actually edited wowwiki claiming their guild came up with the 'lucky charms' name for the raid icons`
`09:22.19`	`sergio`	`that's not possible right?`
`09:22.51`	`ckknight`	`no, sergio`
`09:23.08`	`grzesieq`	`hm, svn.wowace.com is out of sync`
`09:23.34`	`grzesieq`	`in fact, its 100 revisions behind svn2`
`09:23.36`	`ckknight`	`hearts, stars, and horseshoes, clovers, and blue moons, pots of golden rainbows, and me red balloons`
`09:23.44`	`grzesieq`	`i shouldve noticed that earlier...`
`09:24.22`	`Mikma`	`gah. ok is there any prat developers here now?`
`09:24.28`	`Mikma`	`since krka ain't involved :P`
`09:26.33`	`grzesieq`	`hm, any idea how to redirect svn.wowace.com to svn2.wowace.com using /etc/hosts?`
`09:26.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`man hosts?`
`09:28.16`	`packetlss`	`grzesieq: echo 65.110.63.200 svn.wowace.com >> /etc/hosts`
`09:29.06`	`grzesieq`	`but isn't svn2 a vhost?`
`09:29.18`	`grzesieq`	`it works only if the url is svn2.wowace.com`
`09:29.18`	`_icetrain`	`it answers to both`
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`09:29.59`	`packetlss`	`as icet said, answers to both, since we had this sync issue before :)`
`09:30.01`	`_icetrain`	`i configured it like that on purpose :-)`
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`09:30.28`	`grzesieq`	`hrhr`
`09:30.50`	`grzesieq`	`then who do i have to poke to get svn fixed?`
`09:31.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`damn 5:30 already, night all`
`09:31.38`	`_icetrain`	`the owners on svn3/5//6 i guess`
`09:31.44`	`_icetrain`	`no idea who that is though :/`
`09:31.51`	`WvW\|Assad`	`hi! can anyone tell me what to do againt following interfaceerror? Cannot finde libary instance of Babble-Zone-2.0 from thaddius-arrows`
`09:32.06`	`nevcairiel`	`morning`
`09:32.12`	`ckknight`	`thaddius-arrows?`
`09:32.27`	`vhaarr`	`WvW\|Assad: Let me fix.`
`09:32.47`	`vhaarr`	`WvW\|Assad: Actually, it's already fixed. Juts update it.`
`09:32.52`	`Mikma`	`"@Mikma : I'll give a look at this, Chatlog does this otherwise I think"`
`09:32.58`	`Mikma`	`atleast he's thinking about it :)`
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`09:33.16`	`sergio`	`it's seriously amazing still that I can get into an AV or any BG instantly on my cluster`
`09:33.25`	`sergio`	`makes me get hard`
`09:33.38`	`nevcairiel`	`and i have to wait at least 30 mins for any BG`
`09:33.50`	`sergio`	`hey I had 2 years of that crap`
`09:33.54`	`sergio`	`i feel for you`
`09:33.56`	`sergio`	`but`
`09:33.59`	`add\\Leialyn`	`switched sides ?`
`09:34.00`	`WvW\|Assad`	`yes ckknight`
`09:34.02`	`nevcairiel`	`it was 1h or more before`
`09:34.18`	`sergio`	`whatever`
`09:34.18`	`sergio`	`!`
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`09:35.16`	`grzesieq`	`i wish someone could pull those unsynced servers out of rotation :P`
`09:36.22`	`nevcairiel`	`heh i just noticed that the blueposts where changed to orange-posts :D`
`09:36.33`	`ckknight`	`for Hallow's End`
`09:36.34`	`add\\Leialyn`	`oO`
`09:36.41`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah i figured that`
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`09:43.14`	`Kalamadi`	`Hmm. I'm going to play my friend's warrior, but I don't want to screw up his action bars. How do I go about preserving them?`
`09:43.45`	`ckknight`	`mmm... don't change em?`
`09:44.10`	`Kalamadi`	`He plays using the keyboard, I play using a gaming device >_>`
`09:44.16`	`add\\Leialyn`	`I used discord actionbars for this, but it uses some memory ^^`
`09:44.30`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`09:44.34`	`ckknight`	`I want a device`
`09:44.42`	`Kalamadi`	`Nostromo Speedpad n52`
`09:45.28`	`Kalamadi`	`I can play my paladin for anything except raid healing with one hand (I can raid heal with only the other hand, ironically)`
`09:45.43`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`09:46.19`	`Wobin`	`kalamandi: backup his wtf files`
`09:46.25`	`Wobin`	`and use your own`
`09:46.51`	`add\\Leialyn`	`aren't the action bindings stored on server ?`
`09:46.55`	`Kalamadi`	`Yeah`
`09:47.13`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Any thoughts on the AceEvent issue?`
`09:47.25`	`ckknight`	`hadn't thought about it`
`09:50.16`	`Kalamadi`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1560`
`09:50.17`	`Kalamadi`	`Win!`
`09:52.23`	`axxo`	`how do you effectively raidheal with keyb?`
`09:52.52`	`Kalamadi`	`I don't.`
`09:53.47`	`Kalamadi`	`I raidheal with my mouse using clique.`
`09:54.09`	`axxo`	`ah:)`
`09:54.22`	`ckknight`	`I want your setup, Kalamadi`
`09:54.49`	`Kalamadi`	`It's mostly Flexbar + n52 + 7 button gaming mouse`
`09:56.24`	`Kalamadi`	`And, of course, Grid. That makes raidhealing a breeze`
`09:58.01`	`ckknight`	`no doubt`
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`09:58.26`	`cncfanatics`	`yo all`
`09:58.28`	`Wobin`	`bah`
`09:58.37`	`cncfanatics`	`svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/15391'`
`09:58.39`	`Wobin`	`every time I see your name, I think C&C music factory =P`
`09:58.42`	`cncfanatics`	`svn bugged ?`
`09:59.03`	`Wobin`	`sniff no one comes on here to chat anymore =(`
`09:59.18`	`cncfanatics`	`I do :p`
`09:59.22`	`cncfanatics`	`but after my svn stuff is fixed :)`
`10:00.19`	`nevcairiel`	`you could use dev.wowace.com as developer and avoid those problems`
`10:01.36`	`Wobin`	`hm, now for the long run to Shimmering Flats and Gadget`
`10:01.57`	`cncfanatics`	`bleh, wish I cld login into WoW atm`
`10:02.01`	`cncfanatics`	`damn studying`
`10:02.45`	`cncfanatics`	`svn checkout http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2/`
`10:02.53`	`cncfanatics`	`this gives me errors when checking out externals :/`
`10:03.05`	`nevcairiel`	`ah.`
`10:03.15`	`cncfanatics`	`same error as the above`
`10:03.22`	`nevcairiel`	`add svn.wowace.com in your hosts file with the ip of the dev. server`
`10:03.25`	`nevcairiel`	`thats what i did`
`10:03.27`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`10:03.42`	`cncfanatics`	`ehm, explain how to do that ? :/ i'm an svn newb`
`10:04.11`	`nevcairiel`	`open the file "hosts" in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc`
`10:04.22`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: If you need a testcase, LocationFu works fine.`
`10:04.28`	`nevcairiel`	`and add this line: 65.98.61.59 svn.wowace.com`
`10:04.41`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Or does not work fine, but works as a test case :)`
`10:04.54`	`nevcairiel`	`that will always use the dev svn server for everything`
`10:04.56`	`cncfanatics`	`i'm not in windows`
`10:05.04`	`cncfanatics`	`:)`
`10:05.07`	`axxo`	`/etc/hosts then`
`10:05.32`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`10:06.39`	`cncfanatics`	`65.98.61.59 svn.wowace.com`
`10:06.42`	`cncfanatics`	`that shld do it right ?`
`10:06.47`	`nevcairiel`	`yep`
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`10:07.06`	`cncfanatics`	`btw, is there any way to retrieve the Externals config file from svn ?`
`10:07.09`	`cncfanatics`	`I lost my local copy`
`10:07.16`	`Kalamadi`	`Huh. I'm changing stances and my buttons aren't changing right`
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`10:09.44`	`cncfanatics`	`working :) cheer`
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`10:16.15`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: still around?`
`10:16.18`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone knows how to use SecureStateDriver ?`
`10:16.20`	`ckknight`	`sorta`
`10:16.28`	`ckknight`	`was gonna watch Numb3rs and head to bed`
`10:16.37`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: alright, just wanted to make sure you got what I said about locationfu`
`10:16.41`	`nevcairiel`	`have fun, numbers is great :)`
`10:16.42`	`vhaarr`	`since you dc'ed shortly after`
`10:16.43`	`ckknight`	`what about it?`
`10:16.50`	`ckknight`	`I didn't get it`
`10:16.59`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: It can be used as a testcase for the aceevent bug.`
`10:17.05`	`vhaarr`	`in case you need one`
`10:17.07`	`ckknight`	`k`
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`10:24.26`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmmmm`
`10:24.37`	`cncfanatics`	`WTB druid in TBC beta to test stances`
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`10:25.32`	`vhaarr`	`rogues get stealth at lvl 2?`
`10:25.56`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, true :)`
`10:26.04`	`cncfanatics`	`nice one haha`
`10:27.34`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, i'm going to have to make functions in FB2 to use all of the SecureStateHeader features`
`10:27.37`	`cncfanatics`	`lots of work :/`
`10:27.39`	`nevcairiel`	`WTB druid in TBC beta to see the tree :)`
`10:28.01`	`nevcairiel`	`did anyone see a screenshot of that?`
`10:28.10`	`grzesieq`	`i did`
`10:28.11`	`add\\Leialyn`	`I did see one :p`
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`10:28.27`	`nevcairiel`	`does anyone remember a link to a screenshot?`
`10:28.27`	`grzesieq`	`ugly imo :P`
`10:28.51`	`Kalamadi`	`Druid = firewood`
`10:31.22`	`nevcairiel`	`i cant wait for the 2.0 patch to try the tree`
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`10:32.54`	`Wobin`	`Does it lower your fire resistance being one?`
`10:32.57`	`Wobin`	`It so should =P`
`10:33.10`	`nevcairiel`	`it so should increase your armor as well`
`10:33.13`	`nevcairiel`	`but it doesnt`
`10:33.13`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`10:33.50`	`Wobin`	`bah, haven't Blizzard heard of 'Barkskin'? =P`
`10:34.15`	`nevcairiel`	`we even have a spell with that name`
`10:34.26`	`nevcairiel`	`but its not castable in tree`
`10:34.29`	`vhaarr`	`Should be +Armor, -Dodge, -Def, -FR, +NR ^^`
`10:34.49`	`cncfanatics`	`hmmm, + Fire dmg imo`
`10:34.56`	`cncfanatics`	`so I wld pwn them with my firemage`
`10:34.58`	`Fisker`	`oh snap`
`10:35.06`	`Fisker`	`just put myself at hated with aldor :D`
`10:35.08`	`Wobin`	`cnc that's what I mean by -FR`
`10:35.19`	`haste`	`what the hell`
`10:35.20`	`nevcairiel`	`its not like a tree burns faster then a default nightelf ..`
`10:35.21`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`10:35.24`	`haste`	`my WoW crashes at startup :(`
`10:35.41`	`cncfanatics`	`then u got to say +FireDMg, cuz -FR dsnt go beneath :p`
`10:35.53`	`cncfanatics`	`s/beneath/beneath 0/`
`10:36.00`	`haste`	`oh lol, I started it with the wrong profile, no wonder`
`10:37.21`	`vhaarr`	`haste: That makes it OK that it crashes? :P`
`10:37.40`	`haste`	`vhaarr: Yes, I tried to start it with some other GLX extensions`
`10:37.43`	`haste`	`then what I should`
`10:37.45`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`10:37.54`	`haste`	`but my WoW profile is gone =\`
`10:39.13`	`haste`	`Let's see now`
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`10:46.31`	`Mikma`	`booooring`
`10:52.14`	`haste`	`hmm`
`10:52.16`	`haste`	`still crashes`
`10:52.21`	`haste`	`time to run the Repair file!`
`10:52.48`	`haste`	`might be my TinyPad again tho'`
`10:53.22`	`Mikma`	`what'cha doing?`
`10:54.03`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: did you bug anyone into doing dreamchat yet?`
`10:54.17`	`haste`	`trying to figure out why my WoW crashes just as the UI is loaded`
`10:54.30`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: no :(`
`10:54.54`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: well Vallerius is trying to do something`
`10:55.07`	`Mikma`	`but i think he still needs help. i imported his code into branches/DreamChat too`
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`10:57.04`	`nevcairiel`	`he basicly copied the FCF`
`10:57.09`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: i was about to start looking at the codehe did but..`
`10:57.10`	`nevcairiel`	`i dunno if thats the best attempt`
`10:57.37`	`Mikma`	`did you look at the code?`
`10:57.43`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah some time back`
`10:58.07`	`Mikma`	`well that ain't good`
`10:58.18`	`Mikma`	`i'll rather prefer the AKX's way he mentioned in forums`
`10:58.21`	`nevcairiel`	`i would start with a clean scrollingmessageframe`
`10:59.11`	`Mikma`	`evertyone keeps talking about it but nothing happens :(`
`11:03.21`	`Mikma`	`LOL`
`11:03.27`	`Mikma`	`Dolly Parton is coming to finland`
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`11:04.36`	`nevcairiel`	`who?`
`11:06.27`	`Mikma`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_Parton`
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`11:06.59`	`vhaarr`	`she rocks ^^`
`11:07.33`	`hugo`	`some IT engineer ? ;p`
`11:09.15`	`AKX`	`I don't like this at all`
`11:09.26`	`Mikma`	`AKX: what, dolly coming to finland? ;)`
`11:09.28`	`AKX`	`120 KiB/sec memory increase in my UI`
`11:09.31`	`Mikma`	`not going to watch her?!? ;)`
`11:09.36`	cnc`food	`ouch AKX :p`
`11:09.56`	`AKX`	`teksupport says it's "table: 170EB848"`
`11:10.02`	`Mikma`	`AKX: ctraid? :)`
`11:10.09`	`AKX`	`Aye`
`11:10.18`	`Mikma`	`AKX: http://wow.reaktio.net/cosmos.jpg`
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`11:10.53`	cnc`food	`wtf ?`
`11:11.13`	`AKX`	`ouch Mikma :D`
`11:11.59`	`Mikma`	`AKX: and, it's not cheated in any way :)`
`11:12.08`	`Mikma`	`it was actual ingame screenshot after login`
`11:12.11`	`AKX`	`:)`
`11:12.36`	`AKX`	`for i=1,10000 do t={} for a=1,10000 tinsert(t,a) end end ...`
`11:12.36`	`Mikma`	`and, it's cosmos with normal crap enabled if i remember correctly`
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`11:12.56`	`AKX`	`and add a do where needed >.<`
`11:13.19`	`Mikma`	`AKX: that's like, cosmos-emu!`
`11:13.27`	`AKX`	`I'll try it with 100...`
`11:14.13`	`AKX`	`And then with 10000.. I believe I'm currently crashing WoW`
`11:14.44`	`AKX`	`Check. 10000 tables with 10000 items = crash`
`11:17.10`	`phyber`	`who is running the broken SVN mirror?`
`11:17.12`	`haste`	`AKX: you have to add that code to a OnUpdate`
`11:17.28`	`Kalamadi`	`phyber: Nobody, since what's broken cannot run.`
`11:17.47`	`phyber`	`Kalamadi: sure it can. it's really out of date = broken, but running.`
`11:23.22`	`Jens`	`Gawd, my VB skills are rusty.`
`11:24.27`	`Jens`	`Wanted to make stupid app to parse all *.toc files, looking at the dependencies and comparing that to list of installed depencies and spit out a list of unneeded ones.`
`11:25.20`	`AKX`	`Jens, use Python <3`
`11:25.35`	`Jens`	`Lines of Python coded by Jens == 0.`
`11:25.37`	`AKX`	`os.walk, re.match, set() :)`
`11:26.26`	`Jens`	`I used to do a lot of VB and VBScript (for ASP) years ago.`
`11:26.34`	`Jens`	`But then I got bored with coding.`
`11:27.40`	`Jens`	`Never did much file io stuff though.`
`11:28.01`	`Jens`	`I did make an MP3 frame analyzer. It was pretty cool.`
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`11:29.00`	`Quantuvis`	`Jens I'm starting a new job monday where I'll be using my very very very rusty java skills - you just gave me an idea for some practice :D`
`11:29.42`	`Jens`	`I've happily forgotten everything I knew about Java (which wasn't much).`
`11:30.18`	`Jens`	`You should hack intelligent dependency handling into WAU.`
`11:30.25`	`Quantuvis`	`We coded exclusively in Java for the first few semesters of university, and I've completely repressed those memories of horrible computational power :D`
`11:31.48`	`Jens`	`Yea, I was 6 months or so into studying something I don't know how to translate into english. It involved learning Java. Then I decided I'm not going to spend the next N years in front of a computer and became an electrician instead.`
`11:32.25`	`Jens`	`I blame my dad.`
`11:32.52`	`Jens`	`Why did he have to bring me a C64 when I was four. Look at what I've become :D`
`11:33.01`	`Quantuvis`	`haha - honestly though, i think anyone who's ever been tired of studying something software related has toyed with the electrician idea - i know i have :D`
`11:33.34`	`Kalamadi`	`Logic circuits or logic structures, 'tis all the same`
`11:33.40`	`Jens`	`There's a lot of different directions to go for an electrician, and some of them can be quite nerdy if you want to.`
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`11:34.18`	`Kalamadi`	`I'm reminded of some geeks who put logic signals in OpenTTD`
`11:34.34`	`Jens`	`But I love being an electrician. Also because I'm good at building things.`
`11:34.34`	`Kalamadi`	`One person made an XOR signal and created a perfect load balancer :O`
`11:34.43`	`Jens`	`OpenTTD rocks.`
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`11:35.23`	`Jens`	`Now you've made me want to play TT again. You have no idea how many hours of my life I've wasted with that.`
`11:35.28`	`Kalamadi`	`XD`
`11:35.31`	`Kalamadi`	`<= teh evil`
`11:35.42`	`Kalamadi`	`I play OTTD after bad pulls in BWL and waiting for BGs`
`11:36.04`	`Jens`	`I have a screen of pretty sick station I built... where did I put it...`
`11:38.16`	`Jens`	`http://jensrex.net/img/SCR5.png`
`11:39.09`	`AKX`	`Quantuvis! O.o`
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`11:39.41`	`Quantuvis`	`AKX?? :)`
`11:39.57`	`AKX`	`I wuvs Quanjure!`
`11:40.14`	`AKX`	`.. Is it Fu compatible, btw? I switched to MageFu`
`11:40.22`	`Quantuvis`	`oh :o i'm embarassed by the code part of it :) i've gone magefu myself`
`11:40.41`	`Quantuvis`	`and just put the evoc spirit part in my own little utility addon with all sorts of tweaks`
`11:41.10`	`AKX`	`Heh, alright :P`
`11:41.34`	`cncfanatics`	`Anyone has experience with stances ?`
`11:41.34`	`AKX`	`Well, Magefu does break a bit sometimes with me.. Otherwise it's great tho`
`11:41.40`	`Kalamadi`	`Jens: Which trainset is that?`
`11:41.42`	`cncfanatics`	`the stance 1 is always the "normal" form right ?`
`11:41.45`	`Kalamadi`	`I like the multicolor cargo :O`
`11:42.00`	`Jens`	`I have no idea. This screen is very old.`
`11:42.08`	`Quantuvis`	`yeah akx, magefu is quircky at best :D`
`11:42.16`	`AKX`	`So are mages, though :)`
`11:42.21`	`Quantuvis`	`exactly!`
`11:42.43`	`cncfanatics`	`mages > all !`
`11:44.23`	`haste`	`yay for blizzard`
`11:44.30`	`haste`	`"Hey, let's hotfix something!"`
`11:44.36`	`Industrial`	`UNIT_BUFF happens when buffs fade?`
`11:44.40`	`haste`	`then they break WoW for every player which uses Cedega`
`11:44.47`	`Industrial`	`haha owned`
`11:44.53`	`Industrial`	`use wine`
`11:44.54`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`11:44.58`	`haste`	`I'm compiling wine atm`
`11:45.05`	`cncfanatics`	`wine works perfectly haste`
`11:45.06`	`cncfanatics`	`always has`
`11:45.08`	`haste`	`didn't have it compiled with the WoW fix`
`11:45.09`	`Industrial`	`works fine/great`
`11:45.09`	`cncfanatics`	`cedega sucks :p`
`11:45.15`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: so i just started with another try at dreamchat, lets see how far i can get this time.`
`11:45.17`	`haste`	`cncfanatics: I hate your attitude`
`11:45.18`	`cncfanatics`	`(I got a vanilla wine here)`
`11:45.28`	`cncfanatics`	`:(`
`11:45.31`	`Industrial`	`UNIT_BUFF happens when buffs fade?`
`11:45.38`	`AKX`	`I could basically work on DreamChat as well..`
`11:45.42`	`cncfanatics`	`haste: U don't need the WoW fix anymore`
`11:45.44`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: oh neat. remember, listen what AKX says :D he's pro with chats`
`11:46.01`	`AKX`	`I am, yeah`
`11:46.06`	`haste`	`cncfanatics: I'm talking about the flickering patch`
`11:46.13`	`AKX`	`In fact`
`11:46.23`	`haste`	`which I did have when I booted up WoW on wine-0.9.23`
`11:46.24`	`AKX`	`DreamChat probably doesn't need to do shit with combat logs, really?`
`11:46.30`	`Mikma`	`AKX: no, never.`
`11:46.31`	`cncfanatics`	`gfx card ?`
`11:46.38`	`Mikma`	`AKX: there's EavesDrop + BattleChat for that`
`11:46.38`	`AKX`	`Yeah, so that makes it nigh trivial`
`11:46.52`	`AKX`	`The stacking and slickness is the hardest part`
`11:47.13`	`haste`	`nVidia GeForce 7800GT`
`11:47.49`	`cncfanatics`	`oh, ati card here, thats probably why I didn't have to patch it`
`11:48.49`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2571.msg55537#msg55537`
`11:49.36`	`haste`	`It depends on the ATi card`
`11:50.08`	`cncfanatics`	`what exactly does the bug do ? never heard of it tbh`
`11:50.28`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: yeah i read that`
`11:50.36`	`nevcairiel`	`its a full rebuild, no hooks or inherits`
`11:50.53`	`nevcairiel`	`(except ScrollingMessageFrame)`
`11:51.20`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: :) just tell me if you need help in something`
`11:52.39`	`Kalamadi`	`Jens: Let me take a SS of my most current project`
`11:53.25`	`AKX`	`Yay!!`
`11:53.31`	`Mikma`	`AKX: was?`
`11:53.37`	`AKX`	`6[Netherwind Crown]!`
`11:54.09`	`Mikma`	`heh :)`
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`11:54.15`	`Mikma`	`purplez!`
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`11:54.27`	`Kalamadi`	`Jens: http://68.202.83.244/Invert.png`
`11:54.43`	`AKX`	`Well Mikma, I got almost full T1 otherwise :)`
`11:55.09`	`Mikma`	`purplez! :D`
`11:55.12`	`Kalamadi`	`Jens: I decided not to take a SS of a station. Mine end up being 6x12 or so`
`11:55.40`	`Jens`	`Trying to find TTD files somewhere now.`
`11:56.03`	`Kalamadi`	`You mean in order to install OTTD?`
`11:56.44`	`Jens`	`Yes.`
`11:56.56`	`Kalamadi`	`>_>`
`11:57.22`	`Kalamadi`	`I don't know where mine went, actually :x`
`11:57.32`	`Kalamadi`	`But I can zip up my entire OTTD directory, which is messy but works`
`11:57.39`	`Jens`	`Should be easy enough to find.`
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`11:59.36`	`neXter^home`	`is there some major commit process right now? or what's with all those "no such revision" svn errors?`
`12:02.35`	`Kalamadi`	`Anyway, Jens, to explain how I came up with the design in my screeny`
`12:03.07`	`Kalamadi`	`I looked at pictures of cloverleaves (the 4-way traffic "parser") and decided that it was nearly what I needed, but wasn't expandable`
`12:03.24`	`Kalamadi`	`So I inverted the clover, making the traffic exchanges around the perimeter`
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`12:03.51`	`Kalamadi`	`So, if I need more lanes, I can expand outwardly indefinately instead of having to rebuild the whole track`
`12:03.54`	`Jens`	`I still have a lot of RTFM to do about railway design.`
`12:04.17`	`Jens`	`Time to play now. afk :)`
`12:10.10`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r15392 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2: Fixed Pandemonius and Nexus-Prince Shaffar.`
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`12:15.59`	`sergio`	`so`
`12:16.22`	`sergio`	`can I password a directory on my webhost with just .htaccess or is it not that simple`
`12:16.32`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: how's it going?`
`12:17.14`	`Mikma`	`sergio: it's that simple. but you need the password in .htaccess to be crypted`
`12:17.16`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: playing flatout2 atm :)`
`12:17.42`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: ARGH. well go finland but ARGH!`
`12:17.43`	`sergio`	`Mikma yeah i found some web site that does it through some php script. i'm not that worried about security`
`12:17.43`	`Mikma`	`sergio: http://www.e2.u-net.com/htaccess/make.htm`
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`12:19.39`	`sergio`	`Mikma yeah neat`
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`12:23.03`	`Dhraga`	`Hi all`
`12:23.12`	`Dhraga`	`Is tekkub around ?`
`12:23.20`	`Mikma`	`propably`
`12:24.46`	`Dhraga`	`Nice, only hope he have a sec... Tek you there ?`
`12:27.29`	`Dhraga`	`Don't seem as it, okies... anyone else that could give a hand with a small glitch... Tekkub's addon VoicesFromBeyond rends the error Core.lua:45: AceLocale(Babble-Boss-2.0): No translations registered when killing normal trash mobs... code at http://pastey.net/1882`
`12:28.30`	`Dhraga`	`I'm not a coder, but I pressume that it should be a easy fix with just something * else if no traslation then blabla bla`
`12:29.32`	`Dhraga`	`But as I say, I'm not a coder :d`
`12:31.00`	`Dhraga`	`Anyone ?`
`12:32.30`	`weab`	`i'd attempt to help. but i'm going to bed`
`12:32.46`	`Dhraga`	`nn weab`
`12:32.52`	`weab`	`good luck :p`
`12:32.58`	`Dhraga`	`Thanks`
`12:33.33`	`Dhraga`	`I'd like it up and runnig for the raid tonight... Just need to find a coder with a minute to spare ;)`
`12:34.12`	`vhaarr`	`Dhraga: replace Babble-Boss-2.0 with -2.2`
`12:34.16`	`vhaarr`	`and AceLocale-2.0 with -2.2`
`12:34.23`	`Dhraga`	`okies.... testing`
`12:35.22`	`vhaarr`	`but I see the addon is flawed, it will only work for enUS`
`12:35.35`	`vhaarr`	`so if you use deDE it will never work`
`12:35.50`	`vhaarr`	`I'm not going to fix it, I don't want to touch tek's stuff`
`12:36.35`	`Dhraga`	`Im on enUS`
`12:37.21`	`Dhraga`	`But the change to 2.2 rendered the Core.lua:45: AceLocale(Babble-Boss-2.2): No translations registered at load, not even had to kill a mob`
`12:38.03`	`Dhraga`	`Question... how could I add a if no translation to the line 45 ?`
`12:38.35`	`vhaarr`	`That's not the problem.`
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`12:38.42`	`Dhraga`	`oh its not ?`
`12:38.55`	`vhaarr`	`Dhraga: It already checks for that.`
`12:38.59`	`vhaarr`	`BB:HasTranslation`
`12:39.00`	`Dhraga`	`ah`
`12:39.06`	`vhaarr`	`Dhraga: Do you have Babble-2.2?`
`12:39.28`	`Dhraga`	`Yepp`
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`12:39.49`	`vhaarr`	`Dhraga: Most recent one?`
`12:39.51`	`vhaarr`	`Or an old one.`
`12:39.54`	`Dhraga`	`sec.`
`12:40.11`	`Dhraga`	`Revision: 15310`
`12:40.25`	`vhaarr`	`Something is wrong with it.`
`12:40.56`	`Dhraga`	`okies updating it`
`12:40.58`	`Dhraga`	`sec`
`12:40.59`	`vhaarr`	`That error message basically means that the enUS translation table in babble does not exist.`
`12:41.11`	`vhaarr`	`Which means that something is seriously fucked up on your end.`
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`12:41.18`	`vhaarr`	`Updating Babble will probably not fix it.`
`12:41.46`	`Dhraga`	`ah... okies gotcha....`
`12:41.57`	`Dhraga`	`I'll check my libs`
`12:42.27`	`Wobin`	`tekcub: You about?`
`12:46.32`	`Mikma`	`is there something wrong with svn`
`12:46.50`	`Mikma`	`i keep getting stupid errors all the time`
`12:47.27`	`Wobin`	`So there are 7 bankbag slots in TBC?`
`12:48.02`	`Dhraga`	`vhaarr okies got it sorted now I think.... was something strange with my bable-boss 2.2`
`12:48.07`	`Dhraga`	`Thanks for the help =)`
`12:48.09`	`neXter^home`	`mikma: me2, since about half an hour or so`
`12:48.12`	`vhaarr`	`np`
`12:48.17`	`Mikma`	`yeah`
`12:48.39`	`neXter^home`	`first i though some major commiting in process, but i keep getting no such revision errors`
`12:48.41`	`Dhraga`	`Now I just have to go and get a boss to kill thats in babble.... hmmm wonder if Incendious is in it`
`12:49.41`	`Dhraga`	`Hehe yes it is.... nice to be a warlock... gonna go and kill him and see if it reports to guild... laters all`
`12:50.11`	`cncfanatics`	`Had it this morning already`
`12:50.18`	`cncfanatics`	`(about 3 hours ago for me)`
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`12:51.14`	`Wobin`	`argh`
`12:51.21`	`Wobin`	`we don't have table.getn anymore, do we?`
`12:51.26`	`Wobin`	`sob`
`12:51.40`	`Wobin`	`or is that setn?`
`12:51.51`	`cncfanatics`	`just use the n attribute in the table ?`
`12:52.03`	`cncfanatics`	`think there is another substitute also`
`12:52.24`	`Mery`	`no setn and getn is maxn now`
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`12:58.14`	`Saroz`	`damnit`
`12:58.22`	`Saroz`	`worldofwar has a contest for TBC keys for mod authors`
`12:58.28`	`Saroz`	`but they require the mod to be uploaded`
`12:58.29`	`Saroz`	`zz`
`12:58.42`	`cncfanatics`	`:o`
`12:58.46`	`cncfanatics`	`good I got my key already heh`
`12:58.51`	`Saroz`	`:(`
`12:58.54`	`Saroz`	`neeed`
`12:59.03`	`cncfanatics`	`upload ur mod & try ?`
`12:59.11`	`Saroz`	`I guess I should`
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`13:00.20`	`sbu`	`mh, in germany thers some lottery for ~500 beta keys`
`13:00.28`	`sbu`	`no requirements`
`13:00.33`	`Saroz`	`:(`
`13:00.53`	`cncfanatics`	`I got my key in my mailbox the day the beta started /cheer`
`13:01.02`	`cncfanatics`	`glad I don't have to go through all the pain to get a key`
`13:01.17`	`sbu`	`Saroz: mhh - just try it? think it doesnt matter which locale you have, beta key for eu should work on all servers?`
`13:01.26`	`sbu`	`cncfanatics: how did you get it? ;p`
`13:01.37`	`cncfanatics`	`got a mail from blizz the day the beta started`
`13:01.40`	`cncfanatics`	`don't ask me why, just got it`
`13:01.47`	`sbu`	`heh`
`13:01.48`	`sbu`	`:/`
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`13:08.58`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: go code`
`13:09.10`	`Saroz`	`CIA is broken`
`13:09.34`	`Mikma`	`and so is svn`
`13:10.04`	`Wobin`	`cncfanatics: Maybe for Flex? =)`
`13:10.10`	`Saroz`	`I just comitted`
`13:10.41`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: :/`
`13:11.09`	`cncfanatics`	`Wobin, I only got Involved in FlexBar2 pretty recently`
`13:11.30`	`cncfanatics`	`Wasn't very widely known, but thats possible yes, if blizz knew it somehow`
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`13:16.54`	`Breeze`	`does anyone else have problems with the SVN? I keep getting svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/15393'`
`13:17.13`	`Mikma`	`Breeze: svn = busted`
`13:17.30`	`cncfanatics`	`the dev access works fine`
`13:17.33`	`cncfanatics`	`but the public is fucked`
`13:17.42`	`Mikma`	`dev is fucked too`
`13:17.48`	`Mikma`	`i'm using it and keep getting the errors`
`13:17.49`	`cncfanatics`	`dev works for me`
`13:17.54`	`cncfanatics`	`well , it did an hour ago`
`13:18.03`	`Mikma`	`yes but we're talking at this moment`
`13:18.08`	`Mikma`	`not the monet hour ago`
`13:18.18`	`Mikma`	`s/monet/moment/`
`13:18.19`	`cncfanatics`	`public has been down for 3h aprox`
`13:18.31`	`cncfanatics`	`so i'd guess dev wld stop working at the same time :/`
`13:18.38`	`cncfanatics`	`guess not heh`
`13:19.24`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: i need some grafix`
`13:19.58`	`evl`	`Mrploooow`
`13:20.12`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: what sort of gfx?`
`13:20.27`	`nevcairiel`	`a skinned tab`
`13:20.39`	`nevcairiel`	`Interface\ChatFrame\ChatFrameTab`
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`13:20.51`	`nevcairiel`	`rotated so i can stick it to the left side and not on the top`
`13:20.56`	`nevcairiel`	`and to the dreamchat layout`
`13:21.18`	`Mikma`	`yeah the bant's dreamchat layout is nice`
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`13:21.56`	`wereHamster`	`svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/15393' - what's wrong?`
`13:22.42`	`AKX`	`nevcairiel, just use placeholder gfx`
`13:22.59`	`AKX`	`don't stall on stuff like that :)`
`13:23.04`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`13:23.16`	`Mikma`	`we need mikk to make graphics`
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`13:23.46`	`nevcairiel`	`can you rotate textures in wow?`
`13:23.53`	`AKX`	`Yes`
`13:24.00`	`AKX`	`You need to use settexcoord nicely tho`
`13:24.07`	`nevcairiel`	`i hate that`
`13:24.20`	`Wobble`	`It's... messy =P`
`13:24.36`	`AKX`	`It's mathy`
`13:24.51`	`nevcairiel`	`hah`
`13:24.57`	`Wobble`	`yeth`
`13:25.34`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone has experience with buttons remapping with stances?`
`13:25.46`	`cncfanatics`	`I got no clue why my code doesn't work :/`
`13:26.00`	`nevcairiel`	`in bc or live?`
`13:26.04`	`cncfanatics`	`TBC`
`13:26.07`	`cncfanatics`	`using secure templates`
`13:26.11`	`nevcairiel`	`go away!`
`13:26.11`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`13:26.13`	`cncfanatics`	`:p`
`13:26.16`	`nevcairiel`	`or gief beta!`
`13:26.28`	`cncfanatics`	`500$ on ebay`
`13:29.36`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r15395 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2: Added Shirrak the Dead Watcher and Exarch Maladaar.`
`13:31.58`	`nevcairiel`	`lol now that sucks`
`13:32.06`	`nevcairiel`	`a pre-rotated texture would be much easier`
`13:32.18`	`cncfanatics`	`think the rotate stuff uses logarithms ?`
`13:32.55`	`nevcairiel`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations`
`13:33.00`	`nevcairiel`	`its a damn long text`
`13:33.26`	`wereHamster`	`Is something wrong with the svn server? http://pastey.net/1886`
`13:33.53`	`cncfanatics`	`yes there is wereHamster`
`13:34.42`	`Industrial`	`Anyone know some good free side scroller games?`
`13:34.47`	`Industrial`	`preferrably BIG ASS weapons`
`13:34.53`	`nevcairiel`	`and somehow i dont think i can do the proper texture rotation with xml`
`13:34.58`	`nevcairiel`	`only with the api function`
`13:35.00`	`Industrial`	`I finished Tyrian about 10 times now`
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`13:37.26`	`Wobz`	`Bah`
`13:38.19`	`wereHamster`	`does wowace still need svn mirrors?`
`13:39.44`	`Wobin`	`I can't see how it could hurt`
`13:42.43`	`wereHamster`	`how much bandwidth does it use?`
`13:43.44`	`Wobin`	`Devlaaaaaa`
`13:43.57`	`Wobin`	`~seen devla`
`13:44.07`	`purl`	`devla <n=Devla@69.49.158.29> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 197d 13h 29m 51s ago, saying: 'hai!'.`
`13:44.14`	`Wobin`	`sob`
`13:44.38`	`Kalamadi`	`...197 days?`
`13:44.53`	`Wobin`	`why can't I submit an addon to ui.wow?`
`13:45.01`	`Royal`	`Anyone who has fun with photoshop and wants to make me a icon? :)`
`13:45.05`	`Wobin`	`I just submit, and it tells me to log in =(`
`13:45.07`	`Wobin`	`Again`
`13:45.14`	`AKX`	`Royal, what kind of an icon? :)`
`13:45.30`	`Royal`	`For a fubarplugin. A hammer :)`
`13:45.43`	`AKX`	`Can't you use WoW's hammers?`
`13:46.19`	`Mikma`	`indeed`
`13:46.26`	`Royal`	`Hmm good idea yeah`
`13:46.31`	`Mikma`	`the game has a huge amount of hammers in`
`13:47.26`	`Royal`	`Is it possible to use tabard emblems?`
`13:48.05`	`nevcairiel`	`i neeeed gfx :o`
`13:49.15`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: what kind of and why not use the ingame gfx? :)`
`13:50.46`	`nevcairiel`	`rotating textures sucks`
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`13:50.51`	`nevcairiel`	`using sin and cos`
`13:50.53`	`nevcairiel`	`and stuff`
`13:51.08`	`nevcairiel`	`its a ugly hack without rotation now`
`13:51.26`	`Mikma`	`well like AKX said, use placeholders while waiting for mikk to arrive ;)`
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`13:52.01`	`AKX`	`.......`
`13:52.06`	`AKX`	`I had a negative memory increase rate`
`13:52.13`	`Wobin`	`PROFIT`
`13:53.35`	`AKX`	`Why the hell is the frame CharacterBag3Slot leaking memory at 16 kbps??`
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`13:54.24`	`AKX`	`By the way, are the zone time event fixing addons necessary anymore?`
`13:54.24`	`Wobin`	`cooldown?`
`13:54.33`	`Wobin`	`AKX: unecessary now`
`13:54.42`	`cncfanatics`	`AKX, how can u find how much mem a frame leaks ?`
`13:54.47`	`AKX`	`cncfanatics, tekSupport`
`13:54.53`	`cncfanatics`	`link please ?`
`13:54.58`	`cncfanatics`	`would be very usefull for flexbar`
`13:55.00`	`AKX`	`on wowace.com/files`
`13:55.44`	`Xuerian`	`cncfanatics: LuaProfiler`
`13:55.52`	`Xuerian`	`(Wowi)`
`13:56.04`	`cncfanatics`	`Luaprofiler doesn't work for me :(`
`13:56.12`	`cncfanatics`	`only takes globals, not subsubsubmethods like I use :p`
`13:56.13`	`Xuerian`	`How so?`
`13:56.23`	`AKX`	`Hiya yacoob. Tried it? :)`
`13:56.28`	`Xuerian`	`You mean like Flexbar:Method ?`
`13:56.36`	`cncfanatics`	`FlexBar:Method would work`
`13:56.47`	`cncfanatics`	`but FlexBar2.Bla:Method doesn't`
`13:56.48`	`yacoob`	`AKX, only that first version you pasted on #mg :)`
`13:56.54`	`yacoob`	`"Wicked!"`
`13:56.55`	`AKX`	`Well yacoob, it's on ui.wow.net :)`
`13:57.03`	`Xuerian`	`>.<`
`13:57.10`	`AKX`	`Wasn't nuked like Chatr was :P`
`13:57.12`	`yacoob`	`good, let insanity spread :D`
`13:57.20`	`yacoob`	`AKX, don't murder Chatr!`
`13:57.33`	`AKX`	`I didn't! I reuploaded it, but now it only says it has 120 downloads ;_;`
`13:57.43`	`AKX`	`(Also, it's a new beta up there)`
`13:57.54`	`yacoob`	`hm, I should take a poke at it.`
`13:58.07`	`Xuerian`	`Whoever needs gfx/tex, wait till Mikk gets on, he sells his soul to be able to work on graphics :P`
`13:58.18`	`yacoob`	`and it'd better be today, next month is WoWless here.`
`14:01.40`	`Mikma`	`Mikk should get here first`
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`14:02.47`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`14:02.51`	`Wobin`	`what does map stand for?`
`14:03.00`	`Wobin`	`in context of addons`
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`14:09.04`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: how's it going?`
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`14:12.45`	`nevcairiel`	`i am f*cking with my placeholder textures`
`14:12.57`	`Mikma`	`don't :P`
`14:13.13`	`Mikma`	`much easier just to hit some gfx there and let mikk to handle it ;D`
`14:14.10`	`Wobin`	`oh god`
`14:14.32`	`nevcairiel`	`well now i am playing with docking`
`14:14.33`	`Wobin`	`the ui.wow.net irc channel is so ... crowded`
`14:15.21`	`cncfanatics`	`how can I access it as well ? :p`
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`14:19.02`	`Mikma`	`Wobin: oh they have their own?`
`14:19.15`	`Wobin`	`aye`
`14:19.27`	`Wobin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:19.30`	`Wobin`	`#wow`
`14:19.36`	`Wobin`	`You can have a chance at a free BC key`
`14:19.39`	`Wobin`	`if you're in the channel`
`14:19.49`	`Mikma`	`well, i don't care that much`
`14:19.55`	`Wobin`	`But subsequently, it's impossible to find any info, since there are 900 people in there =P`
`14:19.57`	`Mikma`	`i can play with it when it's released :D`
`14:22.00`	`CIA-17`	`03elkano * r15396 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (7 files):`
`14:22.00`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_GuildFu`
`14:22.01`	`CIA-17`	`- added optional display of guild name on FuBar`
`14:23.05`	`haste`	`Wobin: wasn't there like... 5 people there before that?`
`14:23.13`	`haste`	`the compotition that is`
`14:23.19`	`Wobin`	`No idea =P`
`14:23.32`	`haste`	`someone on curse-lua said it a couple of days ago`
`14:24.25`	`evl`	`Wobin: MrPlow being developed still?`
`14:24.34`	`Wobin`	`Well... kinda`
`14:24.42`	`nevcairiel`	`can you rotate texts ?`
`14:24.42`	`Wobin`	`Nothing new being added`
`14:24.45`	`evl`	`Small question, the direction thing doesn't seem to work for me`
`14:24.51`	`Wobin`	`no? =\`
`14:24.54`	`evl`	`MrPlow + OneBag`
`14:25.00`	`evl`	`I'm using the latest from branches`
`14:25.17`	`evl`	`Also feature request would be to sort by quality and then name :)`
`14:26.11`	`Wobin`	`within the categories?`
`14:26.23`	`evl`	`I don't know how it sorts now but`
`14:26.35`	`evl`	`I get grey crap in between my armor and consumables`
`14:26.39`	`nevcairiel`	`i need a way to rotate a Button type frame, is that possible at all?`
`14:27.56`	`Wobin`	`Rotate the texture?`
`14:28.33`	`nevcairiel`	`well, vertical text?`
`14:29.34`	`Kirkburn`	`Wewt, I just updated my housemate's Ace addons with AceUpdater ... nearly every single one is now broken :/`
`14:29.35`	`Jens`	`My neighbour owns. He just rang the door, and asked if I wanted his Samsung 21" CRT.`
`14:29.59`	`Kirkburn`	`MobHealth errors, Fubar is completely borked ...`
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`14:30.28`	`packetlss`	`Kirkburn: did it update all ace addons?`
`14:31.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Most of them`
`14:31.28`	`Kirkburn`	`(It was about 3,4 days since last update)`
`14:32.05`	`evl`	`Wobin: so how exactly does MrPlow sort? :)`
`14:32.24`	`evl`	`Wobin: would it be possible with another menu for ClosetGnome btw; "Replace set"`
`14:32.26`	`Wobin`	`With... uh... mystical gumdrop powers`
`14:32.44`	`evl`	`I mean how does it determine order and how can I affect it`
`14:32.52`	`Wobin`	`have a look at the top of the lua`
`14:33.11`	`evl`	`MrPlowConst.ItemRanking :)`
`14:33.32`	`packetlss`	`Kirkburn: got any specific error messages?`
`14:33.34`	`Kirkburn`	`I mean, it was almost a good thing they broke as it made him start doing work again, but "it's the principle of tha thing" :P`
`14:33.40`	`Wobin`	`possibly the MrPlowConst.ItemCats though`
`14:34.09`	`Kirkburn`	`DurabilityFu and GroupFu came up with load errors in the chat log, and MobHealth complained about AceLocale 2.1 iirc`
`14:34.24`	`Kirkburn`	`Fubar then proceeded to not load at all :)`
`14:34.55`	`Kirkburn`	`Having diabled DurabilityFu and GroupFu, Fubar itselfappeared, but no Fu addons would appear on it`
`14:35.13`	`packetlss`	`sounds like a lib issue`
`14:35.24`	`Kirkburn`	`Does, doesn't it :/`
`14:35.56`	`evl`	`Wobin: Seems it uses ItemRank in the compare function atleast so I'll stick with messing with that, thanksn :)`
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`14:36.36`	`Kirkburn`	`If the libs are a problem, is there a 'quick' fix - e.g. using the standalone stuff?`
`14:41.25`	`Wobin`	`Kirkburn: Usually aye`
`14:41.39`	`Wobin`	`As long as the addons have all their libraries as optdeps`
`14:42.57`	`Elkano`	`iirc wrt GroupFu, it uses AL-2.1 but Babble-2.0 or sth like that, so it also needs AL-2.0; try installing Ace2 stand alone`
`14:43.05`	`Kirkburn`	`Just looking at the Ace forums, it appears I'm not the only one with the problem with Fubar :(`
`14:43.27`	`Kirkburn`	`Okay - which one - !!!StandaloneLib... ?`
`14:44.18`	`Wobin`	`aye`
`14:44.21`	`Wobin`	`if you're using WAU`
`14:44.35`	`Kirkburn`	`Okay`
`14:44.53`	`haste`	`"!!! dies."`
`14:45.00`	`haste`	`StandaloneLib is free, yay!`
`14:45.08`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl 07Rophy * r15397 10MCP/MCP.lua: MCP (Rophy's branch): Added Tooltip with Notes and Dependencies`
`14:45.12`	`Wobin`	`"!!!'s DEATH CRY echoes through the land!!"`
`14:45.56`	`Elkano`	`I'd still go with real stand alone versions instead of !!!StandaloneLib, e.g. checking out Ace2\`
`14:46.43`	`vhaarr`	`I have a groupfu branch.`
`14:46.59`	`vhaarr`	`http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/FuBar_GroupFu/Rabbit/`
`14:48.40`	`Wobin`	`sigh`
`14:48.44`	`Wobin`	`Every time I see your nick`
`14:48.48`	`Wobin`	`I burst into song =P`
`14:49.24`	`Wobin`	`"Bunnies aren't just cute like everybody supposes! With their hoppy feet and twitchy little noses! And what's with all the carrots? What do they need good eyesight for anywaaaay?"`
`14:49.33`	`Wobin`	`"Bunnies! Bunnies! It must be BUNNIES!"`
`14:51.49`	`vhaarr`	`.P`
`14:51.50`	`nevcairiel`	`mhm`
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`14:52.00`	`nevcairiel`	`rebuilding the docking code of the FCF is kinda complicated`
`14:52.15`	`phyber`	`does anyone else here work on agUF or is it only ag?`
`14:52.29`	`AKX`	`nevcairiel, don't copy from FCF, think it yourself.`
`14:52.33`	`haste`	`nevcairiel: writing it from scratch is easier`
`14:53.09`	`AKX`	`Actually nevcairiel - just don't even look at FCF's code unless you really, really, REALLY, REALLY are certain that's the only possible way to go`
`14:53.29`	`nevcairiel`	`its the only way my limited time allows me to use`
`14:53.29`	`nevcairiel`	`:)`
`14:54.12`	`AKX`	`Then do DreamChat when you have more time`
`14:54.29`	`AKX`	`Trust me.. you'll only get grief from trying to emulate the cruft that is FCF`
`14:54.52`	`axxo`	`pff, can't find a decent addon, that can ignore wispers with certain keywords, or like all ppl under lvl 10, need to get rid of these goldseller spam :(`
`14:55.11`	`Wobin`	`That's an interesting one`
`14:55.14`	`nevcairiel`	`more time .. hmm .. wont happen soon`
`14:55.18`	`Wobin`	`but you wouldn't be able to do the latter`
`14:55.20`	`AKX`	`axxo, hook DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage and look for keywords`
`14:55.28`	`Wobin`	`Since doing a /who takes time`
`14:55.41`	`Breeze`	`Wobin, /who 1-10 and remember them?`
`14:55.44`	`axxo`	`too lazy to make it myself atm, someone must have made this allready`
`14:55.59`	`Wobin`	`Breeze: Meh, you'd have to do that all the time to keep it up to date`
`14:56.01`	`AKX`	`Well, Chatr has ChatrFilter, but it only works in Chatr windows, not the standard message pane`
`14:56.34`	`axxo`	`i wouldn't mind the delay from /who`
`14:56.45`	`Wobin`	`Well, that would delay all chats =P`
`14:56.49`	`AKX`	`Yeah`
`14:56.50`	`axxo`	`just make it no /who for ppl in party/raid/recently`
`14:56.56`	`axxo`	`*not`
`14:57.11`	`Wobin`	`Possible, but not overly efficient`
`14:57.41`	`CIA-17`	`03jncl 07Rophy * r15398 10MCP/MCP.xml: MCP (Rophy's branch): forgot XML change :(`
`14:57.58`	`Wobin`	`I think the who lag is at least a few seconds, and you can't do the same who twice in a short period of time`
`14:58.09`	`Wobin`	`(or is that you can't do two who's in a short period of time)`
`14:58.21`	`axxo`	`can't do 2`
`14:58.33`	`axxo`	`but i'd happy if it was only for wispers, don't get wispered tht much`
`14:58.42`	`axxo`	`except them damn gold spammers`
`14:59.44`	`nevcairiel`	`AKX: i am not copying any code, only functionality, tho .. so i can have one little drag-point like the tab, and drag that on some hidden frame to make it dock onto the others.`
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`15:00.37`	`AKX`	`You don't actually need that kind of intuitivity. Why not just a dewdrop menu with "Dock This Frame..." -> "Below/Above/Left To/Right To/" -> <list of other DC frames> ?`
`15:00.55`	`nevcairiel`	`but i want it :(`
`15:02.01`	`Wobin`	`oh I did that`
`15:02.11`	`Wobin`	`have a look at SwitchBoard`
`15:02.15`	`Wobin`	`it has draggable tabs`
`15:02.22`	`Wobin`	`but little else of functionality =P`
`15:02.43`	`Wobin`	`And I can't recall if the code was any good anyway, but the draggable tabs are there =P`
`15:02.46`	`axxo`	`meh, thats it, i'm making it myself`
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`15:03.40`	`nevcairiel`	`i have a tab and can drag it already, and i was working on the docking`
`15:03.47`	`nevcairiel`	`but that appears to be more complex.`
`15:04.19`	`Wobin`	`if onrelease mousecursor inside frameX, dock to frameX`
`15:04.48`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah`
`15:04.50`	`nevcairiel`	`still`
`15:05.01`	`nevcairiel`	`the theory is easy =)`
`15:05.04`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`15:05.36`	`Wobin`	`I guess the ease of use depends on your object model`
`15:05.58`	`nevcairiel`	`i removed my tab texture now, and moved it to the upperleft corner, so no visible tab and i can drag clicking on the corner`
`15:06.10`	`nevcairiel`	`will do everything else before the docking`
`15:13.07`	`Kirkburn`	`Argh, I've just had WoW shout "fatality" at me for the last 5 minutes :/`
`15:13.22`	`vhaarr`	`Why?`
`15:13.41`	`Kirkburn`	`No bloody idea`
`15:13.45`	`Wobin`	`bugsack =P`
`15:13.50`	`evl`	`Bugsack :D`
`15:13.51`	`vhaarr`	`Well there's obviously an error.`
`15:13.55`	`Kirkburn`	`I must have had a LOT of errors`
`15:13.55`	`vhaarr`	`So what is it?`
`15:14.00`	`evl`	`./bugsack show all`
`15:14.03`	`Wobin`	`That's why I changed the error to the murloc gurgle =P`
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`15:14.16`	`Mi\|es`	`lol @ Wobin`
`15:14.20`	`Kirkburn`	`lol`
`15:14.23`	`vhaarr`	`Kirkburn: So paste the first error.`
`15:14.32`	`Zarp`	`Anyone got a second to help a newbie like myself with a macro for Praid? ><`
`15:14.32`	`Kirkburn`	`I've closed it now`
`15:14.42`	`Kirkburn`	`I'm going to clean out my interface directory`
`15:15.45`	`Wobin`	`ahaha`
`15:15.45`	`Wobin`	`Sponsored Links`
`15:15.46`	`Wobin`	`Murloc Pets in Warcraft`
`15:15.46`	`Wobin`	`Change a Chicken pet into a Murloc.`
`15:15.46`	`Wobin`	`This exploit and many others, $5.95`
`15:15.46`	`Wobin`	`www.redguides.com`
`15:16.06`	`Wobin`	`Of course, this means, that every farm will be filled with murlocs =P`
`15:16.39`	`Zarp`	`What I'm trying to do is make a macro to change between 1 and 2 columns and so far i've come up with this /script if PerfectRaid:OptionColumns(1) then PerfectRaid:OptionColumns(2) else PerfectRaid:OptionColumns(1) doesn't seem to work as I'm an idiot :P`
`15:16.44`	`[Ammo]`	`good afternoon`
`15:16.49`	`evl`	`Saw the turtle mount up on ebay yesterday at 350$`
`15:16.53`	`Zarp`	`Afternoon`
`15:17.23`	`[Ammo]`	`turtle mount?`
`15:17.58`	`evl`	`yeah`
`15:18.03`	`evl`	`only obtainable from game card`
`15:18.22`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm?`
`15:18.34`	`evl`	`check ebay`
`15:18.35`	`[Ammo]`	`link?`
`15:18.55`	`evl`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/WoW-World-of-Warcraft-TURTLE-MOUNT-Saltwater-Snapjaw_W0QQitemZ330042701695QQihZ014QQcategoryZ4596QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting`
`15:19.30`	`[Ammo]`	`ah I see`
`15:20.39`	`cncfanatics`	`does that actualy work ?`
`15:21.14`	`[Ammo]`	`yup`
`15:21.17`	`cncfanatics`	`:o`
`15:24.18`	`evl`	`extremely rare`
`15:24.22`	`evl`	`the card and thus the mount`
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`15:25.13`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r15400 10BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua: BigWigs (Onyxia): frFR update`
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`15:30.15`	`cncfanatics`	`anyone knows if the :SecureHook method in AceHook can be called on nonsecure functions ?`
`15:30.49`	`nevcairiel`	`i think it can`
`15:31.57`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r15401 10DreamChat/ (8 files in 3 dirs): DreamChat: my own branch now :)`
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`15:36.52`	`Saroz`	`!zip sRaidFrames`
`15:36.59`	`CIA-17`	`03saroz * r15402 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Touching for externals (fucked in zip)`
`15:37.10`	`Saroz`	`!trunk sRaidFrames`
`15:37.19`	`nevcairiel`	`i think the bot went away again`
`15:37.22`	`Saroz`	`k`
`15:37.28`	`haste`	`it's done automaticly anyway tho'`
`15:37.38`	`Saroz`	`yea`
`15:37.42`	`Saroz`	`but when svn.wowace.com`
`15:37.48`	`Saroz`	`is fucked, all externals go bye bye`
`15:38.06`	`nevcairiel`	`i zipped a local checkout today for the UI Update post in my guilds forum`
`15:38.24`	`mjc`	`nevcairiel: make them learn to use svk`
`15:38.37`	`nevcairiel`	`i am already happy if they actually use the addons i post`
`15:38.38`	`nevcairiel`	`so no`
`15:38.46`	`Saroz`	`:p`
`15:39.08`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm what to code`
`15:39.16`	`axxo`	`chat filter!`
`15:39.16`	`Kirkburn`	`Lol, my UI is soooo broken, not even bugsack works!`
`15:39.20`	`cncfanatics`	`:o`
`15:39.21`	`nevcairiel`	`help me with dreamchat`
`15:39.21`	`axxo`	`stop the gold spammers`
`15:39.21`	`nevcairiel`	`:D`
`15:39.23`	`Saroz`	`I'm gonna fork pallypower soon`
`15:39.41`	`mjc`	`pallypower?`
`15:39.45`	`Saroz`	`pala buffing mod`
`15:39.48`	`Kirkburn`	`This is from a clean Ace install too - bugsack errors when I do /bugsack show all`
`15:39.55`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`15:40.05`	`nevcairiel`	`in live?`
`15:40.21`	`nevcairiel`	`it sucks having to ask that :(`
`15:40.27`	`Kirkburn`	`argh`
`15:40.53`	`Kirkburn`	`In live, Fubar addons don't work and bugsack shouts fatality when i do stuff with it`
`15:41.15`	`nevcairiel`	`How did you get the addons? WinAceUpdater?`
`15:41.18`	`Kirkburn`	`Yup`
`15:41.23`	`nevcairiel`	`Thats why`
`15:41.32`	`Shyva`	`this vanguard update thingie is soooo slooooww -_-'`
`15:42.02`	`nevcairiel`	`since some svn mirror is broken, the zips get zipped without some externals`
`15:42.09`	`nevcairiel`	`and everything breaks`
`15:42.35`	`Kirkburn`	`Ah, I wasn't sure if that was still a problem :(`
`15:42.44`	`nevcairiel`	`I am not sure how exactly, but using !!!StandaloneLibraries should solve the problems`
`15:42.51`	`nevcairiel`	`but no idea why, since i never used the WUA`
`15:42.51`	`Kirkburn`	`It didn't.`
`15:43.12`	`Kirkburn`	`Then again, that folder is empty`
`15:43.15`	`Kirkburn`	`...`
`15:43.21`	`nevcairiel`	`not sure howto use that`
`15:43.21`	`Kirkburn`	`wtf`
`15:43.34`	`Wobin`	`?`
`15:43.47`	`Wobin`	`STandalone has a whole lot of empty folders inside`
`15:43.54`	`Wobin`	`(well it should)`
`15:44.19`	`Kirkburn`	`Not for me`
`15:44.31`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`15:44.33`	`nevcairiel`	`from the readme: Copy these folders into your WoW addon path, open WinAceUpdater and choose mark installed addons. You can now update without externals, WAU will pull down each of the libs that it finds folders for.`
`15:44.40`	`Wobin`	`I think I see your problem =)`
`15:44.57`	`Kirkburn`	`Absolutely no folder contained within :/`
`15:45.16`	`nevcairiel`	`ive just downloaded the .zip from the files page and it contains lots of empty folders`
`15:45.23`	`Kirkburn`	`I'll do that instead`
`15:45.37`	`nevcairiel`	`readme says unzip that into the addons dir, and let WUA update that folders.`
`15:46.09`	`nevcairiel`	`(the folders are empty, some extraction tools might skip empty dirs)`
`15:46.25`	`nevcairiel`	`some .keep file should go in there maybe`
`15:48.28`	`Kirkburn`	`kk, updating now`
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`15:50.05`	`sbu`	`hmm`
`15:50.09`	`sbu`	`screenshots for dreamchat? :)`
`15:50.13`	`sbu`	`nevcairiel? :)`
`15:50.15`	`Kirkburn`	`Wheeeeeeeee, worked!`
`15:50.33`	`nevcairiel`	`sbu: there is not much to screenshot yet`
`15:50.43`	`Wobin`	`Kirkburn: hurrah`
`15:51.05`	`nevcairiel`	`sbu: http://homepage.usask.ca/~rss050/wowpics/mockup1.jpg`
`15:51.16`	`nevcairiel`	`thats a mockup tho, not really coded`
`15:51.19`	`nevcairiel`	`(yet)`
`15:51.39`	`sbu`	`hum`
`15:51.43`	`sbu`	`need ;p`
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`15:51.49`	`sbu`	`WTB final`
`15:51.56`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r15403 10oRA2/Participant/Item.lua: oRA2: lets fix this before deucecommanders starts whinging again`
`15:51.57`	`nevcairiel`	`trade with beta key?`
`15:52.00`	Funkeh`	`heyhey`
`15:52.03`	`Galencia`	`is GetInstance a ace thing is a lua thing?`
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`16:01.05`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r15404 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 : Updated localization koKR`
`16:01.08`	`AKX`	`AceLibrary:GetInstance.. it's ace`
`16:01.39`	`AKX`	`nevcairiel, how will you determine which box gets focus when enter is pressed?`
`16:01.50`	`AKX`	`or, maybe..`
`16:01.58`	`sbu`	`nevcairiel: dont have beta keys ;p`
`16:02.01`	`AKX`	`tab would change between chat types in one box, then between boxes?`
`16:02.30`	`AKX`	`so if you had raid and party in box1, guild in box2 and you used box1.party last.. you'd press enter for party, then tab for guild, then tab for raid?`
`16:03.28`	`Wobin`	`yarg`
`16:03.32`	`Wobin`	`daylight savings`
`16:03.36`	`Wobin`	`or in this case`
`16:03.39`	`Wobin`	`daylight losings`
`16:03.46`	`Wobin`	`It's 3am =P`
`16:04.32`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r15405 10TouristLib/ (. Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua TouristLib.toc): .Tourist-2.0: No longer usable with BZ-2.0, require 2.2.`
`16:05.47`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r15406 10TouristLib/: .Tourist-2.0: Update AceLocale external to 2.2 as well.`
`16:06.53`	`nevcairiel`	`AKX: not sure yet, was going to use a generic editbox like default chatframe for now, until i figured that one out`
`16:06.58`	Funkeh`	`did anyone manage to find out whats up with the oRA2 scrolling thing btw?`
`16:11.11`	`Kirkburn`	`Wow, Ocb is gorgeous`
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`16:26.19`	`Saroz`	`ffs`
`16:26.26`	`Saroz`	`ui.worldofwar.net is fucked up`
`16:26.30`	`Saroz`	`can't submit my mod`
`16:27.46`	`Saroz`	`GRRR`
`16:27.52`	`Saroz`	`Useless bull`
`16:27.54`	`Saroz`	`moving to curse`
`16:31.55`	`Mi\|es`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`16:40.31`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Greetings..`
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`16:41.49`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`I have a few small questions about Prat and oRA2. Kinda new to wowace and all..`
`16:44.01`	`Fudge`	`Ask away, see if anyone awake/around can answer 'em.`
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`16:45.04`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Ah, someone is alive.. ;-) Anyway. How can you set up MT Targets (as raidleader) with oRA2?`
`16:45.27`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`And... I need Prat for Chatlink, but for some reasons I don't get all those modules working.`
`16:45.32`	`cncfanatics`	`I don't think oRa2 is ready for total use yet ?`
`16:45.54`	`cncfanatics`	`think its still considered unfinished, tho i'm not sure (ask [Ammo])`
`16:45.55`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`You'd say that /prat <module> toggle should work, but he can't find the module or something.`
`16:46.11`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Hmm.`
`16:46.21`	`Fudge`	`cncfanatics, I think it is ready.`
`16:46.35`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Guess I'll go back to CTRA for this evening atleast, I had the idea it was a lot less laggy though`
`16:46.44`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`(using oRA + that raidframe thingy)`
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`16:47.16`	`cncfanatics`	`oRa1 works perfectly , thats what I use`
`16:47.29`	`Azurewrath`	`Mischa[SGE]: just use /ora mt set 1 Name`
`16:47.34`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Hmm`
`16:47.38`	`Azurewrath`	`or the tooltip menu :)`
`16:47.38`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Ah alright.`
`16:47.51`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Isn't there some nice menu for MT set up then?`
`16:48.10`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Using fubar aswell now, but I can't find much interresting for oRA2`
`16:48.34`	`Azurewrath`	`there should be a oRA2 icon in your FuBar then, you can access nearly all options from there`
`16:48.36`	`ckknight_`	`hey all`
`16:48.46`	`Azurewrath`	`hey ckk`
`16:48.47`	`Fudge`	`Mischa[SGE], what Azurewrath said.`
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`16:49.32`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Tooltip.. Hmmm, haven't found anything usefull so far but I guess I missing something then.`
`16:49.44`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Anyone that knows about prat and the modules?`
`16:50.00`	`Fudge`	`Hmmm...`
`16:50.27`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`Small chance that much people are using that though.. I guess.`
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`16:50.35`	`Fudge`	`It appears the oRA2 fubar plugin is broken or something..`
`16:50.52`	`Azurewrath`	`Mischa[SGE]: the tooltip MT thingie is pretty new, sure you got the latest revision? :)`
`16:51.10`	`Mischa[SGE]`	`revision? Hmm, guess we found the problem then heh.`
`16:51.23`	`Azurewrath`	`but you should have a oRA2 icon in the FuBar though, if not something is broken or you switched it off hehe`
`16:51.24`	`ckknight`	`so I have to go to some "Global Citizenship Symposium" as part of my writing class`
`16:51.25`	`ckknight`	`blah`
`16:51.27`	`Fudge`	`Meh, something's broken.`
`16:51.38`	`Fudge`	`[2006/10/28 11:49:52-3]: FuBar\FuBar.lua:1292: oRA2: You must be attached to a panel.`
`16:51.39`	`Fudge`	<in C code>: in function `assert'
`16:51.39`	`Fudge`	FuBar\FuBar.lua:1292: in function `Plugin_StartDrag'
`16:51.39`	`Fudge`	`FuBar\FuBar.lua:1159: in function <Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar.lua:1156>`
`16:51.39`	`Fudge`	`Tablet-2.0\Tablet-2.0.lua:2399: in function <...erface\AddOns\BigWigs\Libs\Tablet-2.0\Tablet-2.0.lua:2397>`
`16:51.41`	`ckknight`	`they're gonna tell us that we use too many resources and to all be liberals`
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`16:53.32`	`Saroz`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5627-1-sraidframes.html`
`16:53.34`	`Saroz`	`wut!`
`16:54.12`	`sbu`	`heh`
`16:54.23`	`Fudge`	`Ugh.. anyone know how to fix that error?`
`16:55.51`	`eternally777`	`o wow, yay spam ^^`
`16:56.25`	`eternally777`	`It seems that something isn't attached to a panel...`
`16:56.32`	`eternally777`	`But no idea how to fix that :) sry`
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`17:00.50`	`Neebler`	`Saroz: screenshot or it didn't happen!`
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`17:08.35`	`Fisker`	`someone should fix oskin :(`
`17:09.23`	`Saroz`	`I added them Neebler`
`17:09.27`	`Saroz`	`slow curse`
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`17:17.51`	`Clovenhoof`	`hi guys, Is there an easy way to track the people that join/leave raids without using RosterLib?`
`17:18.12`	`cncfanatics`	`the RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE event`
`17:18.34`	`cncfanatics`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/R`
`17:18.36`	`Clovenhoof`	`thanks ill look into it`
`17:18.42`	`AKX`	`Or CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM, I think, for "<someone> has joined the raid group." etc`
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`17:21.41`	`Saroz`	`....`
`17:21.46`	`Saroz`	`nono`
`17:21.50`	`Saroz`	`use RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE`
`17:21.51`	`Saroz`	`jesus`
`17:22.10`	`AKX`	`Well, yes, but that's also having to save the old roster`
`17:22.19`	`AKX`	`to determine the newcomers/leavers`
`17:22.25`	`nevcairiel`	`use RosterLib :)`
`17:22.33`	`nevcairiel`	`I know i know he said not to`
`17:22.33`	`nevcairiel`	`:p`
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`17:22.40`	`Dhraga`	`Tekcub alive ?`
`17:23.10`	`Clovenhoof`	`hehe, i just need to know the time when someone joins the first time and when he leaves the last time, isnt Rosterlib a bit of overkill for that?`
`17:23.48`	`AKX`	`Not really Clovenhoof`
`17:23.52`	`AKX`	`That's proven and working code`
`17:24.34`	`Clovenhoof`	`hmm true`
`17:25.44`	`nevcairiel`	`So, i have a ScrollingMessageFrame, anyone got a simple proof of concept how i add mousescrolling to that?`
`17:25.50`	`AKX`	`nevcairiel, yes`
`17:25.57`	`AKX`	`smf:EnableMouseWheel(true)`
`17:26.03`	`nevcairiel`	`that all i need?`
`17:26.07`	`nevcairiel`	`woot.`
`17:26.21`	`AKX`	`smf:SetScript("OnMouseWheel",function(n)if n<0 this:ScrollUp() else this:ScrollDown() end)`
`17:26.35`	`AKX`	`end end) actually`
`17:26.39`	`AKX`	`Something like that :)`
`17:27.32`	`AKX`	`nevcairiel http://paste.servut.us/plain/qi`
`17:29.25`	`nevcairiel`	`how can i use < and > in XML ?`
`17:29.31`	`nevcairiel`	`i am confused :)`
`17:29.39`	`AKX`	`You don't use that in XML <.<`
`17:29.57`	`nevcairiel`	`i am using a template, and wanted to add that directly in there`
`17:30.16`	`AKX`	`Then add that as a utility function in .lua`
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`17:31.52`	`eternally777`	`Hmm.. how does Bartender2_Circled crop the portion of the actionbar icons that are outside of the circle?`
`17:32.00`	`AKX`	`Mask, I think?`
`17:33.11`	`CIA-17`	`03krtek * r15408 10oSkin/core.lua: oSkin : added some nil check`
`17:34.38`	`nevcairiel`	`yay its working :)`
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`17:39.13`	`JoshBork1`	`morning`
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`17:42.11`	`Fisker`	`thanks you!`
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`17:46.13`	`Kirkburn`	`lol, I just went through cleaning my addons. I started with 102 addons.`
`17:46.22`	`Kirkburn`	`I have now ended up with ....`
`17:46.27`	`Kirkburn`	`102 addons. But different ones.`
`17:46.47`	`Kirkburn`	`Go go !!!StandaloneLibraries :D`
`17:49.02`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
`17:49.17`	`nevcairiel`	`i am at 83 addons, no standalone tho`
`17:49.22`	`Kirkburn`	`No Cosmos though now \o/`
`17:49.22`	`nevcairiel`	`using the !!!Libs`
`17:49.26`	`AKX`	`I have 109 enabled`
`17:49.47`	`cncfanatics`	`I got 5 addons enabled atm hmmm`
`17:49.52`	`nevcairiel`	`heh`
`17:49.54`	`Kirkburn`	`heh`
`17:49.56`	`cncfanatics`	`and only one of them is bigger then 20kb`
`17:50.03`	`Fisker`	`argh`
`17:50.27`	`Fisker`	`screwing up with charactersviewer`
`17:50.35`	`JoshBork1`	`anyone good with the UI stuff?`
`17:50.39`	`kergoth`	`i'm at 229 addons`
`17:50.42`	`kergoth`	`all standalones though`
`17:50.46`	`nevcairiel`	`depends what JoshBork1`
`17:50.46`	`kergoth`	`s/all/all the libs are/`
`17:50.57`	`JoshBork1`	`my stupid statusbar won't stay behind my textures`
`17:51.07`	`cncfanatics`	`U need to set their strata`
`17:51.13`	`cncfanatics`	`set ur texture's strata higher`
`17:51.29`	`JoshBork1`	`they are set to overlay`
`17:51.37`	`JoshBork1`	`and the textures in the statusbar are background`
`17:51.55`	`cncfanatics`	`Overlay > background`
`17:52.11`	`JoshBork1`	`that's what i have`
`17:52.32`	`chuckg`	`Who do I email to get SVN access?`
`17:52.45`	`nevcairiel`	`cladhaire`
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`17:54.30`	`JoshBork1`	`well, i fixed it by having the textures be parented to the statusbar`
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`18:02.11`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: dreamchat done yet?`
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`18:03.19`	`CIA-17`	`03joshborke * r15409 10Borked_Monitor/ (Borked_Monitor.lua Borked_Monitor.toc):`
`18:03.20`	`CIA-17`	`Borked_Monitor:`
`18:03.20`	`CIA-17`	`- completed transition to StatusBars for the health.`
`18:03.20`	`CIA-17`	`- updated version to 0.5-11200`
`18:03.20`	`CIA-17`	`- cut the time needed to update the frame from 170ms to 35ms!!!`
`18:03.46`	`haste`	`JoshBork1: !!!!!!!!!!!!`
`18:03.48`	`haste`	`:3`
`18:04.46`	`JoshBork1`	`i found out that local primitives and references are free :-D`
`18:05.43`	`Kodewulf`	`burning crusade gameplay marathon is on now at http://www.gamespot.com`
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`18:11.33`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r15410 10FuBar_RestFu/ (FuBar_RestFu.toc Libs/ RestFu.lua RestFuLocals.lua):`
`18:11.33`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_RestFu:`
`18:11.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Changed spaces to tabs in .lua files. Viva la tabs!`
`18:11.33`	`CIA-17`	`- Added the characters current Zone to the data that is displayed for each character.`
`18:11.34`	`CIA-17`	`- Updated to Babble-Class-2.2.`
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`18:18.51`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: well, i can move, resize, minimize/maximize the windows now.`
`18:19.24`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: yeah i tested :)`
`18:19.35`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: looking kinda cool etc`
`18:19.48`	`nevcairiel`	`how can you, its not even in svn yet, the newest stuff :D`
`18:20.16`	`Mikma`	`oh'kay, i tested something and saw something on screen ;)`
`18:20.21`	`Mikma`	`then i quited the game`
`18:20.30`	`Mikma`	`i'm watching Schimanski atm :D`
`18:29.58`	`kergoth`	`i wish my wow would stop hanging at random today`
`18:30.02`	`kergoth`	`worked fine yesterday`
`18:30.32`	`Mikma`	`kergoth: hangs in what conditions?`
`18:30.47`	`JoshBork1`	`during a GC i bet!`
`18:31.36`	`kergoth`	`i mean complete i have to end the task hang`
`18:31.38`	`kergoth`	`:\`
`18:32.12`	`Mikma`	`kergoth: well i have the same problem jn battlegrounds. i was starting to think that it's oRA2 since i haven't had any freezes/crashes in couple of days now when i disabled it`
`18:32.54`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
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`18:33.50`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: uploaded some new stuff`
`18:34.01`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: sweet. dude!`
`18:34.20`	`nevcairiel`	`its basicly a movable and resizable frame now, not much to play with :P`
`18:34.31`	`Mikma`	`well, just to see the frame`
`18:34.35`	`Mikma`	`and let's do it in lua now :)`
`18:34.42`	`Mikma`	`since i hate .xml :D`
`18:35.03`	`nevcairiel`	`its a template, you cannot copy that in lua without redoing it for every frame`
`18:35.43`	`Mikma`	`so what's the problem then`
`18:36.19`	`Galencia`	`function moo:baa(oink) print oink end, whats wrong with that?`
`18:36.36`	`nevcairiel`	`but there is something funny, it saves the size of my frame even tho i am not saving it anywhere :)`
`18:36.52`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: defaults needed?`
`18:37.21`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r15411 10DreamChat/DreamChat/ (5 files): DreamChat: window resizing and other stuff`
`18:37.27`	`nevcairiel`	`oh cia is slow`
`18:37.56`	`nevcairiel`	`i still dont understand why you hate the defaults`
`18:38.05`	`Mikma`	`no i don't hate defautls`
`18:38.19`	`Mikma`	`i was asking that does it save the size because the defaultsize is missing`
`18:38.32`	`nevcairiel`	`it doesnt even set the size anywhere`
`18:38.38`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`18:38.40`	`nevcairiel`	`there is some default in the xml`
`18:38.54`	`nevcairiel`	`default size of the FCF which i copied`
`18:39.01`	`nevcairiel`	`for testing`
`18:39.45`	`Mikma`	`well i don't realize how the moving works`
`18:40.23`	`nevcairiel`	`there is a small frame in the upper left corner which has a ondrag handler`
`18:40.29`	`nevcairiel`	`and drags the full frame with it`
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`18:41.03`	`Mikma`	`oh right`
`18:41.17`	`Mikma`	`well atleast the basic is covered`
`18:41.23`	`Mikma`	`but what about the template?`
`18:41.29`	`Mikma`	`why can't you create the frames with lua?`
`18:42.02`	`nevcairiel`	`why should you? :)`
`18:42.16`	`Mikma`	`because i freaking hate .xml :D`
`18:42.48`	`nevcairiel`	`its easier to maintain this way imho`
`18:42.53`	`Mikma`	`this is interesting, test out /camp in big city`
`18:43.03`	`Mikma`	`yes it might be easier but it's still .xml :(`
`18:43.10`	`Mikma`	`it's a bitch to modify later`
`18:43.36`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: doesn't save size on me`
`18:43.41`	`nevcairiel`	`weird`
`18:43.59`	`Mikma`	`only posx and y`
`18:44.31`	`Mikma`	`yeah, i rechecked and only posx and posy gets saved`
`18:45.13`	`nevcairiel`	`its not supposed to save the size`
`18:45.16`	`nevcairiel`	`but it seems to do for me`
`18:45.29`	`Mikma`	`lol`
`18:45.31`	`Mikma`	`relog`
`18:45.41`	`Mikma`	`the version you put in svn doesn't save size in db`
`18:49.30`	`haste`	`I invested in a new avatar :o!`
`18:49.47`	`Mikma`	`link us babe`
`18:51.49`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r15412 10DreamChat/DreamChat/ (3 files): DreamChat: should save size now`
`18:51.49`	`CIA-17`	`03rophy * r15413 10SimpleCombatLog/core.lua: SimpleCombatLog - Fixed nil error for exp gain in a raid.`
`18:52.54`	`haste`	`just open a topic I've made!`
`18:53.09`	`Mikma`	`lame. i have to find one`
`18:53.56`	`DrDre`	`what the hell`
`18:53.57`	`DrDre`	`But if you're Alliance, it sure is a pain to get to the BE zone.`
`18:53.58`	`DrDre`	`I did it earlier on in the beta with my level 10 Draenei hunter. Hit EPL and it's Die. Rez. Die. Rez. Loads of corpse runs.`
`18:54.07`	`DrDre`	`wtf do you need to go to BE area as alliance for?`
`18:54.30`	`DrDre`	`that was a quote btw >_>`
`18:54.36`	`Mikma`	`propably to play the area`
`18:54.46`	`haste`	`"how to play, the retarded way"`
`18:54.49`	`DrDre`	`and do what there? Grind? lol`
`18:55.05`	`Mikma`	`DrDre: some people wan't to play the startareas with different characters`
`18:55.13`	`Mikma`	`which is idiotic`
`18:55.16`	`DrDre`	`rread what i said`
`18:55.22`	`DrDre`	`<Alliance> to BE`
`18:55.26`	`DrDre`	`Be = horde`
`18:55.34`	`Mikma`	`haste: your avatar sucks :(`
`18:55.37`	`haste`	`:(`
`18:55.38`	`Mikma`	`right, forgot that`
`18:56.32`	`Mikma`	`haste: http://mikma.reaktio.net/woo.jpg`
`18:57.40`	`DrDre`	`what the hell`
`18:57.46`	`DrDre`	`a ROGUE complaining about being corpse camped`
`18:57.50`	`haste`	`Mikma: meeeh, I don't like yours either!`
`18:57.54`	`DrDre`	`you must royally suck at rogue if you get corpse camped`
`18:58.02`	`Mikma`	`haste: mine is muuuuuuch better than yours ;)`
`18:58.06`	`haste`	`Mikma: noes!`
`18:58.08`	`DrDre`	`noones ever been able to camp me`
`18:58.11`	`Mikma`	`haste: yeas!`
`18:58.17`	`Mikma`	`haste: it's almost realistic`
`18:58.27`	`Mikma`	`you know, me with pencil in mouth infront of laptop`
`18:58.32`	`Mikma`	`trying to think "wtf"`
`18:58.52`	`Mikma`	`haste: is this one better? http://mikma.reaktio.net/wagner2.jpg`
`18:59.03`	`haste`	`no :p`
`18:59.12`	`haste`	`I liked my old one a lot`
`18:59.12`	`Mikma`	`haste: http://mikma.reaktio.net/wagner1.jpg`
`18:59.18`	`haste`	`but after two year, it needed a change`
`18:59.27`	`Mikma`	`http://mikma.reaktio.net/wagner.jpg`
`18:59.31`	`haste`	`Mikma: 2 > 1, by a lot`
`18:59.49`	`Mikma`	`haste: yeah it's quite cute actually`
`19:00.04`	`Mikma`	`haste: ok here, take this one: http://mikma.reaktio.net/horny.jpg`
`19:00.30`	`haste`	`what the hell...`
`19:00.58`	`Mikma`	`haste: http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/viivijawagner/1610/20061026.gif <- the last image ;)`
`19:01.24`	`haste`	`...?`
`19:01.26`	`haste`	`:D`
`19:01.26`	`CIA-17`	`03phyber * r15414 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua:`
`19:01.26`	`CIA-17`	`FuBar_RestFu:`
`19:01.26`	`CIA-17`	`- A few more small changes.`
`19:01.26`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed showing the zone on a level 60 character.`
`19:01.34`	`Mikma`	`wan't translation?`
`19:01.41`	`haste`	`I'll go back to reading my manga now`
`19:04.26`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`oh, dream chat is in branches?`
`19:04.34`	`Mikma`	`yes`
`19:04.37`	`Mikma`	`go get it wooo!`
`19:04.44`	`nevcairiel`	`its not really usable`
`19:04.50`	`Mikma`	`shuss`
`19:04.50`	`nevcairiel`	`not usable at all.`
`19:04.53`	`Mikma`	`don't listen to him`
`19:04.57`	`Mikma`	`just go get it now wooo!`
`19:05.01`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`mikma wants to break my ui`
`19:05.09`	`eternally777`	`If I build a local table in a function, does that table stay in memory as long as my mod is active or only upon calling that function?`
`19:05.11`	`Mikma`	`won't break`
`19:05.16`	`Mikma`	`it just don't do anything yet :)`
`19:05.26`	`Saroz`	`nice optimization JoshBork1`
`19:05.30`	`Saroz`	`gj`
`19:06.02`	`Vallerius`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:06.18`	`Mikma`	`Vallerius: hi`
`19:09.59`	`kergoth`	`damnit wow`
`19:10.32`	`Mikma`	`k`
`19:10.36`	`haste`	`kergoth: it crashes 1-5min after login?`
`19:11.11`	`kergoth`	`seems that way, though i saw it hang once during addon selection at the charcter selection screen, so shrug`
`19:11.16`	`kergoth`	`havent changed much since yesterday :\`
`19:11.27`	`haste`	`kergoth: Don't use Cedega`
`19:11.35`	`haste`	`Blizzard hotfixed something a couple of hours ago`
`19:11.39`	`kergoth`	`ugh`
`19:11.45`	`haste`	`it crashes WoW when ran under cedega after 1-5 min`
`19:11.55`	`haste`	`I thought it was some SV gone over the file limit at first`
`19:12.03`	`haste`	`and spent an hour poking around`
`19:12.41`	`haste`	`just compile wine (and with the wow patch if it's needed)`
`19:12.53`	`haste`	`nVidia only afaik`
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`19:21.58`	`kergoth`	`haste: thanks for the info :)`
`19:22.00`	`kergoth`	`wine works fine`
`19:22.51`	`Industrial`	`whats the name of the fist weapon set again?`
`19:23.01`	`kergoth`	`which one?`
`19:23.27`	`haste`	`Spirit of Eskhandar?`
`19:23.41`	`Mikma`	`fisterweapon`
`19:24.24`	`kergoth`	`there's the eskhandar one, and the arlokk and thekal fist weapons out of ZG, though i dont recall the set name`
`19:24.39`	`Mikma`	`thottbot knows`
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`19:26.15`	`vurlix`	`Fubar_GroupFu\GroupFu.lua:4: Cannot find a library instance of Babble-Class-2.0`
`19:26.52`	`DrDre`	`ugh someone fix oskin pls ; ;`
`19:27.05`	`DrDre`	`10/26 + versions are bugged`
`19:27.39`	`vurlix`	`for the love of mike will someone please remove that bogus "Autobar" duplicate directory on wowace files so the updater doesn't delete the real autobar mod every time it updates?`
`19:27.42`	`DrDre`	`conflict with something i have, 10/25 works fine. seems be some problem with hooking`
`19:28.05`	`Galencia`	`vurlix: right.. i forgot to email cladhaire about that`
`19:28.10`	`Galencia`	`feel free to, though`
`19:28.25`	`DrDre`	`core.lua:198: attempt to index local 'objName' (a nil value) and AOElements.lua:46: AceHook-2.1: "MailFrameTab_OnClick" already has an active hook from this source.`
`19:28.43`	`vhaarr`	`vurlix: Use my branch of GroupFu instead.`
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`19:32.10`	`Galencia`	`what would a table look like to be able to do foo["bar"].wibble on it?`
`19:32.35`	`kergoth`	`foo = {bar = {}}`
`19:33.17`	`Galencia`	`foo = {bar = {wibble = "sausage" } } } ?`
`19:33.36`	`Industrial`	`kergoth: ah yes the arrlok thingies`
`19:33.38`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`19:33.43`	`Industrial`	`bet ehy owne if you have both`
`19:33.45`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`19:33.45`	`nevcairiel`	`you could also do foo.bar.wibble`
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`19:33.53`	`Galencia`	`yeah`
`19:34.00`	`Galencia`	`im still getting my head around the sugar. :)`
`19:35.11`	`Galencia`	`what i actually want is to be able to foo["bar"] where bar is actually part of foo, and it look up bar, and give me wibble on bar`
`19:35.14`	`Galencia`	`if that makes sense`
`19:35.41`	`nevcairiel`	`foo.bar.wibble is the same as foo["bar"].wibble tho`
`19:35.48`	`Galencia`	`yeah, i know that much`
`19:36.09`	`Galencia`	`imagine this: foo = {bar = {something = "moo" }}}`
`19:36.20`	`Galencia`	`no not that`
`19:36.39`	`Galencia`	`that was a bad way to try to explain it`
`19:37.18`	`Galencia`	`i want to have a way of doing a command lookup, basically`
`19:37.44`	`kergoth`	`you mean lie what aceconsole/aceoptions does already for its commandlines?`
`19:37.45`	`Galencia`	`so you do foo["bar"].handler where bar is dynamic, and it returns the handlers for "bar"`
`19:37.47`	`kergoth`	`or what?`
`19:37.52`	`Galencia`	`kergoth: quite possibly, yes.`
`19:37.55`	`Galencia`	`i'll check it out`
`19:40.18`	`Galencia`	`hmm, aceconsole is a little bit more advanced than i want, but i think i get the general idea`
`19:40.55`	`Galencia`	`(sorry for abusing the channel, but this is ageneral lua related question rather than an ace specific one)`
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`19:52.59`	`Kirkburn`	`I need a replacement quest log - are there any Aced ones?`
`19:54.49`	`haste`	`SimpleCombatLog`
`19:54.51`	`haste`	`errr`
`19:54.54`	`haste`	`yeh, questlog`
`19:54.59`	`haste`	`QuestFu or something`
`19:55.55`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r15415 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2: Fixed Quagmirran, added Overseer Tidewrath and Claw.`
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`20:01.00`	`Mikma`	`vhaarr: how can i edit the profiles in closet_gnome?`
`20:01.13`	`vhaarr`	`Mikma: Edit the sets, you mean?`
`20:01.18`	`Mikma`	`ye`
`20:01.21`	`Mikma`	`sets`
`20:01.33`	`vhaarr`	`Mikma: 1. Equip, 2. Add new set, 3. Fill in the name of the old set.`
`20:01.39`	`vhaarr`	`:)`
`20:01.51`	`Mikma`	`vhaarr: ok, needs an option to edit the sets :)`
`20:01.53`	`Galencia`	`bleh, sorry for being a pain, but how do i iterate over the tables in "a.handlers = { b = { name = "hi", func = "hi2" } }?`
`20:02.00`	`vhaarr`	`Mikma: Branch, I'll never add it.`
`20:02.10`	`Mikma`	`vhaarr: why?`
`20:02.27`	`vhaarr`	`Because what I just said is so easy anyway.`
`20:02.28`	`eternally777`	`Galencia: I think "next()" has something to do with that..`
`20:02.35`	`eternally777`	`Not sure though, I haven't learned how to use that one yet.`
`20:02.53`	`Mikma`	`vhaarr: what about shirt and tabards? why they are not included in sets`
`20:03.17`	`vhaarr`	`Mikma: I hadn't considered it at all.`
`20:03.19`	`vhaarr`	`hm`
`20:03.34`	`Mikma`	`my wife likes to hide the ugly gear she has with tabard`
`20:03.37`	`vhaarr`	`I guess I could make those slots usable.`
`20:03.48`	`vhaarr`	`With default = ignored.`
`20:04.19`	`Galencia`	`eternally777: hmm, i was thinking something to do with pairs, but i have no idea how to use pairs :)`
`20:04.45`	`eternally777`	`CastSpellByName() automatically casts the highest rank of a spell if no rank is specified, correct?`
`20:04.51`	`nevcairiel`	`yea`
`20:05.00`	`CIA-17`	`03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r15416 10DreamChat/DreamChat/ (DreamChat_FrameClass.lua DreamChat_FrameUtils.lua): DreamChat: changes to option saving`
`20:05.44`	`Mi\|es`	`How is DreamChat working out? Stable to use on 1.12?`
`20:06.04`	`Mikma`	`nope, it's just another PoC`
`20:06.13`	`Mikma`	`and so far it looks good`
`20:06.56`	`nevcairiel`	`nothing in branches should be used unless a dev tells you to :)`
`20:07.50`	`Mikma`	`whistles rm -rf`
`20:07.52`	`nevcairiel`	`if i use AceOO and define functions in a prototype, do those functions get copied for every instance, or do they refer to one copy in memory ?`
`20:09.39`	`eternally777`	`Galencia: http://ace.pastey.net/1897`
`20:09.46`	`Vallerius`	`nevcairiel: my completely uninformed wild guess tells me that there's only one copy of the function, they just mangle the 'self' argument`
`20:10.16`	`Galencia`	`eternally777: doesnt exist :)`
`20:10.33`	`eternally777`	`Galencia: What doesn't exist?`
`20:10.38`	`Galencia`	`that pastey`
`20:11.07`	`eternally777`	`whoops: http://ace.pastey.net/1898`
`20:11.21`	`Galencia`	`Error, that code is not available`
`20:11.23`	`eternally777`	`That one exists. I'm looking at it.`
`20:11.26`	`eternally777`	`wtf`
`20:11.54`	`Galencia`	`do you mean 1878? :)`
`20:12.16`	`Galencia`	`i think i figured it out anyway`
`20:12.38`	`eternally777`	`I get an error for 1878...`
`20:12.41`	`eternally777`	`But ok`
`20:12.43`	`Galencia`	`haha`
`20:12.59`	`Galencia`	`for _, command in pairs(self.handlers) do register_command(command.name) end`
`20:13.01`	`Galencia`	`seems to do what i want`
`20:13.41`	`eternally777`	`oo I see what I did wrong.`
`20:13.47`	`eternally777`	`Yeah, that would do it.`
`20:14.05`	`Galencia`	`whats the difference between pairs and ipairs then?`
`20:14.11`	`Galencia`	`because i couldnt get ipairs to work`
`20:14.14`	`eternally777`	`ipairs for tables indexed numerically`
`20:14.21`	`Galencia`	`ahhh`
`20:14.25`	`Galencia`	`that would explain it`
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`20:19.15`	`Galencia`	`eternally777: weird. that seems to iterate the first once twice`
`20:20.55`	`Galencia`	`http://ace.pastey.net/1900 - prints out moo, baa, moo`
`20:21.46`	`nevcairiel`	`it really shouldnt`
`20:21.57`	`Galencia`	`oh`
`20:21.57`	`Galencia`	`crap`
`20:22.18`	`nevcairiel`	`you had some old debug code somewhere ? :D`
`20:22.22`	`Galencia`	`yeah. :)`
`20:22.30`	`Galencia`	`i put in a call to init() so i could test it outside of the C code`
`20:22.34`	`Galencia`	`then forgot to take it out`
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`20:34.23`	`CIA-17`	`03grennon * r15417 10Minimalist/ (4 files): Minimalist: 3.0.3, cleanups and additional minimap clutter removal`
`20:35.58`	`Mikma`	`now this is not correct is it: "xxx invites you join yyy"`
`20:36.24`	`Mikma`	`someone just ninjainvited me in guild and i got that message`
`20:36.29`	`Mikma`	`(in chat)`
`20:36.54`	`Xuerian`	`That's normal o_0`
`20:37.15`	`Mikma`	`but it aint correct is it`
`20:37.38`	`Xuerian`	`GUILD_INVITATION = "%s invites you to join %s"; -- Tells the player he has been invited to a guild`
`20:37.49`	`Mikma`	`aha!`
`20:37.52`	`nevcairiel`	`thats correct`
`20:37.52`	`Mikma`	`but i didn't have the "to"`
`20:38.03`	`Mikma`	`"xxx invites you join yyy"`
`20:38.07`	`eternally777`	`O.O`
`20:38.10`	`nevcairiel`	`clean your eyes and look again`
`20:38.11`	`Xuerian`	`globalstrings.lua is your friend. Keep a tab of it open at all times :P`
`20:38.12`	`eternally777`	`Screenshots or it didn't happen!`
`20:38.17`	`Mikma`	`SS coming up`
`20:40.01`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/didhappen.jpg`
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`20:41.06`	`pb_ee1`	`Does anybody knows the name of an AddOn that displays the contents of the bank/equipment/... stored in the KC_Items database?`
`20:41.37`	`Mikma`	`pb_ee1: yes, KC_Items`
`20:42.07`	`pb_ee1`	`I'm reading the documentation, and it doesn't say it is possible to display the content stored in its database`
`20:42.09`	`Mikma`	`~framexml`
`20:42.12`	`purl`	`get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p -- Beta: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/expansion-bc/addonkit.zip`
`20:42.21`	`eternally777`	`Mikma: Reported!`
`20:42.46`	`Mikma`	`eternally777: k`
`20:43.17`	`eternally777`	`:( I think I'm stuck right a tremendously long if-then-elseif-else-end statement, and I usually like to avoid doing this :(`
`20:43.40`	`eternally777`	`s/right/writing/`
`20:45.13`	`pb_ee1`	`this has a test`
`20:45.15`	`pb_ee1`	`s/has/is`
`20:45.21`	`pb_ee1`	`s/has/is/`
`20:45.29`	`pb_ee1`	`Aha, nice functionallity ;p`
`20:45.30`	`eternally777`	`haha, took me awhile to learn that too`
`20:45.42`	`pb_ee1`	`It's a regex it seems ;p`
`20:46.19`	`pb_ee1`	`Mikma: Couldn't find what you were talking about`
`20:46.28`	`mjc`	`Mikma: fimmy`
`20:46.30`	`mjc`	`funny`
`20:46.39`	`pb_ee1`	`Mikma: KC_Items does save the equipment/bank/etc. but doesn't display its content on the screen`
`20:46.51`	`pb_ee1`	`You can only read the KC_Items.lua file xD`
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`20:47.18`	`Mikma`	`i have no idea what has changed my message to that one :D`
`20:47.18`	`Mikma`	`globalstrings says it's "asks you to join"`
`20:47.27`	`Mikma`	`but ingame its "aska you join"`
`20:47.36`	`Mikma`	`s/aska/asks/`
`20:47.48`	`eternally777`	`Maybe a hook somewhere took out the "to" for some reason?`
`20:48.04`	`Mikma`	`all i can thing of is Prat`
`20:48.08`	`eternally777`	`That's the only plausible, yet highly unlikely, reason I can think of.`
`20:48.42`	`Mikma`	`nothing else touches the chat`
`20:52.33`	`Galencia`	`hmm, is there some way i can store MY instance of an objects method in a table?`
`20:53.21`	`Xuerian`	`My globalstrings is older than 1.12`
`20:53.26`	`Xuerian`	`So unless you're comparing to yours...`
`20:53.28`	`Xuerian`	`Or wdn :p`
`20:54.34`	Funkeh`	`vhaarr: ya here?`
`20:54.52`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: yep
`20:54.55`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: talking to me?`
`20:55.06`	`Xuerian`	`Yea I was >.>`
`20:55.16`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: i just extracted the latest from game`
`20:55.40`	`Xuerian`	`Then what I said doesn't apply :p`
`20:55.46`	Funkeh`	`vhaarr: would be nice to get a 20sec mind control bar for prophet, you should also do a little cleanup, remove the split events`
`20:56.03`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: you don't apply! now go code :D`
`20:56.14`	`Xuerian`	`Nu. EVE-online calls my name >.>`
`20:56.56`	`Mikma`	`Xuerian: yeah, Tuplad also likes to take it in the ass`
`20:57.08`	`Xuerian`	`o.0`
`20:57.50`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: The split stuff should be gone from the menus now.
`20:58.01`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: I'm not going to clean it out of the code, since we might use it some day.
`20:58.27`	`vhaarr`	`But a bar for MC is possible.`
`20:58.35`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: You're positive that it is 20 seconds?
`20:58.53`	Funkeh`	`vhaarr:ok, and yes`
`20:59.05`	`vhaarr`	`okay, busy a while, I'll fix it later`
`20:59.16`	Funkeh`	`i recommend commenting it out`
`20:59.34`	Funkeh`	`or --not in use :P`
`21:00.57`	`Xuerian`	`Someone on wowace just posted that XLoot taints targeting... Anyone using it successfully in tbc?`
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`21:05.51`	`cncfanatics`	`yo all :)`
`21:07.35`	`nevcairiel`	`hey`
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`21:21.27`	`mjc`	`http://clientcopia.com/quotes.php?id=45`
`21:32.34`	`CIA-17`	`03damjau * r15418 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFuLocals.koKR.lua: FuBar_GuildFu - update koKR`
`21:33.11`	`Kebinusan`	`I need a mod that always rolls need on boe items when group loot is set`
`21:33.15`	`Kebinusan`	`:-(`
`21:33.29`	`Xuerian`	`x.0`
`21:33.46`	`Kebinusan`	`For some reason this guild does ZG on group loot`
`21:33.49`	`Kebinusan`	`uncommon`
`21:33.52`	`Kebinusan`	`so annoying`
`21:37.15`	`eternally777`	`How can I put the cooldown frame on my own icons?`
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`21:38.23`	`CIA-17`	`03damjau * r15419 10oRA2/Participant/Item.lua: oRA2 - Participant/Item.lua update koKR`
`21:40.35`	`eternally777`	`nvm, that was a dumb question.`
`21:43.58`	`mjc`	`http://clientcopia.com/quotes.php?id=64`
`21:44.24`	`Mikma`	`mjc: those are quite good actually`
`21:44.27`	`mjc`	`Kebinusan: we do ZG on group loot on greys`
`21:44.29`	`mjc`	`:P`
`21:50.04`	`eternally777`	`So, my friend is a telephone tech support agent. Last night he gets a call from this guy named "Azni". Everytime Azni types his name into Microsoft Word, MS Word autocorrects it to spell "Nazi." Now poor Azni, who happened to be jewish, found this "redicule" to be highly offensive, and demanded that my friend make MS Word change his name to something else.`
`21:51.32`	`eternally777`	`He never asked my friend if there was a way for MS Word to not try to respell his name, just that his name be respelled to something else. So now, MS Word changes his name to Anzi instead.`
`21:56.18`	`Mery`	`lol`
`21:58.58`	`nevcairiel`	`lol`
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`21:59.46`	`Mikma`	`neat :)`
`22:00.10`	`CIA-17`	`03fenlis * r15420 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 : Updated localization koKR`
`22:00.21`	`haste`	`Who's the author of Prat?`
`22:00.27`	`Mikma`	`not in here :(`
`22:00.36`	`haste`	`damn it!`
`22:00.36`	`Mikma`	`the 2 lamers only use forums afaik`
`22:00.39`	`eternally777`	`haste: Industrial started it I think, don't know.`
`22:00.41`	`Mikma`	`haste: got a problem?`
`22:00.47`	`eternally777`	`I could be wrong >.<`
`22:00.55`	`haste`	`Mikma: yeh, it fucks up links over chat channels`
`22:00.57`	`nevcairiel`	`that krtek guy sometimes comes here`
`22:01.00`	`Mikma`	`eternally777: indie doesn't do it anymore`
`22:01.09`	`Mikma`	`haste: change it to use ChatManager link instead?`
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`22:01.37`	`Mikma`	`haste: it should have 2 options, ChatLink and ChatManager as the itemlink`
`22:01.47`	`Mikma`	`i myself prefer the ChatManager-style`
`22:02.37`	`haste`	`Mikma: people still complain :p`
`22:02.41`	`nevcairiel`	`mhm that shell script i had to write for university is quite complex already`
`22:02.52`	`haste`	`I just disable it`
`22:02.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`so disable the chatlink part`
`22:03.00`	`Mikma`	`haste: make them install the same addon lol`
`22:03.16`	`Mikma`	`they can't see the links if they don't have a addon to suppoert it`
`22:03.21`	`Mikma`	`this means Prat / ChatManager`
`22:03.30`	`Mikma`	`otherwise it's going to be a mess`
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`22:05.52`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r15421 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2: Added bosses from the Ring of Blood.`
`22:07.28`	`eternally777`	`Do you think there's a way to possibly break Babble down into even small sub-chunks? For instance, break Babble-Spell into Babble-Spell-<Class Name>?`
`22:08.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`not everything in babble-spell is player classes though`
`22:08.56`	`eternally777`	`Babble-Spell-Misc`
`22:09.14`	`Arrowmaster`	`and a change like that would break everything that uses babble-spell and force it to version 2.3`
`22:09.51`	`eternally777`	`heh.`
`22:10.04`	`Fisker`	`how do you set loot treshold via script in TBC?`
`22:10.25`	`mjc`	`http://www.clientcopia.com/quotes.php?id=4865`
`22:10.30`	`eternally777`	`So you're saying it wouldn't be worth the trouble then?`
`22:10.42`	`Xuerian`	`eternally777: It really wouldn't`
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`22:13.49`	`mjc`	`http://www.clientcopia.com/quotes.php?id=4862`
`22:13.53`	`CIA-17`	`03rabbit * r15422 10BigWigs/AQ40/Skeram.lua:`
`22:13.53`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs: Skeram: Added 20 second bar for MC, cleaned up some stuff and removed`
`22:13.53`	`CIA-17`	`yet another double frFR translation. What the .. Please learn to read and see`
`22:13.53`	`CIA-17`	`if there is a frFR translation in the mod already before adding a second one.`
`22:15.28`	`vhaarr`	`This is like .. the 5th time the frenchies have done that.`
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`22:17.22`	`eternally777`	`Does anyone here speak french? I need to know what "Gestion des buffs du pretre" means.`
`22:18.59`	`Mikma`	`oxman: translate that`
`22:20.08`	`That1Swede`	`Xuerian!`
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`22:25.19`	`Industrial`	`eternally777: priest buff management`
`22:25.44`	`Industrial`	`thats how far I get with a translator`
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`22:48.24`	`Industrial`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LAhL0hbZVV0VMxRVo`
`22:48.26`	`Industrial`	`Hows that`
`22:49.51`	`Mikma`	`oh right i respeced my priest once again hehe`
`22:50.23`	`nevcairiel`	`get rid of improved intercept and skill dual weild`
`22:51.14`	`nevcairiel`	`you might also think about removing some points from tactical mastery to do 5/5 dual weild, but other then that, looks good`
`22:51.33`	`nevcairiel`	`if possible`
`22:51.35`	`Mikma`	`is that a dps-build?`
`22:51.39`	`Industrial`	`yes`
`22:51.41`	`nevcairiel`	`somehow looks that its not :D`
`22:51.54`	`snurre`	`dont max out deflection`
`22:52.12`	`Mikma`	`wtb a good DPS-warrior talent-tree ;)`
`22:52.18`	`Mikma`	`from a GOOD dps-warrior lol`
`22:52.32`	Funkeh`	`vhaarr: ' yet another double frFR translation. What the .. Please learn to read and see' lolol <3`
`22:52.43`	`vhaarr`	Funkeh`: :P
`22:52.49`	`snurre`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LbhxbhbZVV0VgxoVo my current build`
`22:53.10`	`nevcairiel`	`thats a good one :)`
`22:53.12`	`snurre`	`(http://ctprofiles.net/1652113)`
`22:53.26`	`sergio`	`Industrial is that your spec?`
`22:54.03`	`Industrial`	`no`
`22:54.11`	`snurre`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pbhxbIbZVV0VMgoVo <-- if you are 2h fury`
`22:54.11`	`Industrial`	`i just reset my talents`
`22:54.23`	`Industrial`	`im wielding an ice barbed spear atm`
`22:54.26`	`Industrial`	`(just got it, yay)`
`22:55.16`	`sergio`	`what level are you`
`22:55.43`	`snurre`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pbhxbIbZVV0VMgoVo <-- if you are DW and doing 5man instances, aq or zg`
`22:56.02`	`sergio`	`why would you put 2 points into slam`
`22:56.26`	`nevcairiel`	`does anyone actually use slam?`
`22:56.35`	`snurre`	`yep`
`22:56.38`	`snurre`	`as 2h fury you do`
`22:57.20`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`slam in TBC is better`
`22:57.24`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`.5 second cast time`
`22:57.27`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`very nice`
`22:57.37`	`sergio`	`he's not using slam`
`22:57.43`	`snurre`	`correct, but that doesnt mean it's completely useless now though`
`22:57.44`	`sergio`	`this isn't TBC`
`22:58.02`	`snurre`	`slam is a more efficient rage dump than HS as 2hander`
`22:58.05`	`sergio`	`it is completely useless except for green dragons when every other ability is on cooldown`
`22:58.12`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`i will occasionally use it on fights like saph where i cant wear my fury gear`
`22:58.21`	`snurre`	`wrong, for stationary encounters it's not all that bad`
`22:58.33`	`snurre`	`even though DW is better`
`22:58.43`	`sergio`	`you're awful`
`22:58.50`	`snurre`	`thanks`
`22:59.12`	`sergio`	`those talent points are wasted`
`22:59.14`	`sergio`	`for leveling`
`22:59.27`	`snurre`	`im not talking about leveling`
`22:59.46`	`sergio`	`he's not 60`
`22:59.50`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`slam with a 2H on stationary fights as a 100 rage dump isnt bad`
`22:59.59`	`snurre`	`which level is he then?`
`23:00.04`	`Industrial`	`53`
`23:00.05`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`you lose 1 swing time overall, and you may have lost that damage by a miss anyhow`
`23:00.24`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`oh, with a crap weapon its not worth it`
`23:00.52`	`snurre`	`53 with IBS? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pMGxbAboVzVV0c`
`23:00.54`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`dont both`
`23:00.56`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`bother`
`23:01.13`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r15423 10Localizer/ (. Localizer.lua): Localizer - An lua script to parse another lua file for all AceLocale strings`
`23:01.40`	`sergio`	`get imp demo shout`
`23:01.43`	`Industrial`	`Im being told that if I want to pvp I'd want to go MS, also since im handling a polearm atm :P`
`23:01.58`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`yes, pvp is ms for the most part`
`23:02.02`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`until you get stupid good gear`
`23:02.07`	`snurre`	`go MS for pvp (unless you are 60 with epics, then you can possibly go fury)`
`23:02.07`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`thenyou can go fury if you want`
`23:02.32`	`Industrial`	`ill follow that latest paste`
`23:02.34`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: VoicesFromBeyond has some problems that some dude reported earlier - I helped him resolve them locally but I didn't fix it on the SVN.`
`23:03.26`	`snurre`	`sergio: as you said, it's for leveling.. for that you want to kill mobs faster to increase your xp/hour. imp demo isn't enough bang for the buck for lvling at the moment, so i wouldnt put any points in that.`
`23:03.42`	`snurre`	`rather booming voice than imp demo shout, but I'm still a fan of UW.`
`23:03.59`	`snurre`	`as it procs in instants etc`
`23:04.03`	`snurre`	`on*`
`23:04.24`	`snurre`	`imp demo shout is alot more interesting with the TBC ranks of demo shout though, since they scale so much more`
`23:04.39`	`snurre`	`but then, due to the rage nerf UW becomes relatively better`
`23:05.00`	`snurre`	`at least in the lower scale of the equipment comparison`
`23:05.03`	`sergio`	`that's great and all`
`23:05.20`	`sergio`	`but I TBC isn't out`
`23:05.25`	`sergio`	`I think`
`23:05.40`	`snurre`	`i never said it was`
`23:05.48`	`snurre`	`i just gave some extra opinions`
`23:06.02`	`snurre`	`my recommendation for the current situation still stands though`
`23:07.33`	`Industrial`	`thanks for the help, im now MS ^^`
`23:08.37`	`sergio`	`what spec did you go`
`23:09.52`	`Industrial`	`31/13/0`
`23:09.52`	`sergio`	`I'd use this for pvp and leveling with that weapon since it's pretty cookie cutter with MS`
`23:09.53`	`Industrial`	`atm`
`23:09.54`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`23:09.55`	`sergio`	`http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pMGxdNboVzVxzm0x`
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`23:21.16`	`Curney`	`good evening`
`23:22.11`	`Curney`	`anyone home? :)`
`23:23.49`	`Mikma`	`boo. no new versions of dreamchat`
`23:23.52`	`Mikma`	`i'm off to sleepyland`
`23:24.27`	`vhaarr`	`lol, I never noticed before, there's a guy called "Slim" that has the subtitle "Shady Dealer"`
`23:24.30`	`vhaarr`	`Slim Shady :P`
`23:24.37`	`Mikma`	`please stand up`
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`23:24.49`	`vhaarr`	`plx`
`23:24.51`	`vhaarr`	`stand up`
`23:25.31`	`Curney`	`anyone familiar with using lua to create frames? i am trying to create a button and i think i have all of the coding for it. i am curious what happens if i try to create a frame that i already created`
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`23:32.56`	`Curney`	`if i have an addon making frames is it okay to create those frames onenable? or is it more proper to creating them oninitialize?`
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`23:37.38`	`vhaarr`	`Curney: OnInitialize`
`23:37.56`	`Curney`	`thanks`
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`23:44.27`	`DrDre`	`Truesilver deposits should not fucking pop in place of a rich thorium`
`23:48.20`	`haste`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:57.01`	`Xuerian`	`That1Swede!`
`23:57.38`	`Neronix`	`lol, there's a whole 7 minute segment on Hard Gay in this documentary about Japan`
`23:57.47`	`Neronix`	`looks for YouTube link`
`23:57.49`	`Xuerian`	`o.0`
`23:58.44`	`Neronix`	`(For those who don't know, he's a persona created by a comedian. Think Ali G)`

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