| 00:00.06 | vhaarr | ckknight: I don't want it to look like that |
| 00:00.20 | ag` | It's true that macbooks (non-pro) are too expensive |
| 00:00.37 | ckknight | vhaarr, nope |
| 00:00.39 | mjc | ag`: size + weight into account too? |
| 00:01.03 | Wiki | the only reason to buy a laptop is if you spend 1/3 of your life traveling. |
| 00:01.10 | Wiki | discuss. |
| 00:01.12 | Neronix | Do fontstrings support block strings? |
| 00:01.17 | ag` | well sure, but the macbook pro will beat almost anything at size+weight |
| 00:01.28 | eternally777 | I use my laptop just as much as my PC, and I don't travel often :P |
| 00:01.31 | Neronix | or do I have to use /n a lot? |
| 00:01.48 | eternally777 | Example: Right now, as I idle in IRC and play WoW on my desktop. |
| 00:01.51 | ckknight | Neronix, \n |
| 00:01.57 | ag` | Wiki: I can't go to LANs easily without a laptop, and I can use my laptop in my bed :P |
| 00:01.58 | Neronix | Close |
| 00:02.08 | ckknight | Wiki, I'm in the library right now. |
| 00:02.13 | ckknight | doesn't quite work with a desktop. |
| 00:02.18 | leech2k | my backlight switch just died in my laptop :-( |
| 00:02.28 | leech2k | I can only read the display in really bright light lol |
| 00:02.48 | Amadeo | I think Alienware just released a laptop with SLI graphics, lol |
| 00:02.54 | Wiki | rofl, really? |
| 00:03.02 | Amadeo | I think that's who it was...someone did |
| 00:03.08 | Wiki | those alienware fuckers are crazy. |
| 00:03.13 | leech2k | All performance laptops overheat though :-( |
| 00:03.34 | Zeryl | GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo" |
| 00:03.37 | leech2k | Its really ghey in raids when that happens too. |
| 00:03.37 | Zeryl | best mirror ever |
| 00:03.49 | Wiki | heh, alienwares are usually just desktops in a mini-micro-case with a fliptop LCD. |
| 00:04.01 | Amadeo | leech2k: I wouldn't know...I know my girlfriends Averatec overheats when she's doing nothing :P |
| 00:04.08 | ckknight | vhaarr, why does that screenshot have ads to catch my cheating spouse? |
| 00:04.09 | leech2k | Alienware usually uses the desktop procs in their laptops too. |
| 00:04.24 | Amadeo | I don't know why anyone would do that anymore |
| 00:04.28 | Amadeo | Core 2 Duo is too good |
| 00:04.39 | leech2k | Amadeo: My old laptop use to randomly overheat too, but I took it apart and found a fan unplugged. |
| 00:04.51 | leech2k | Amadeo: Now it just overheats under heavy cpu+vid load |
| 00:04.58 | Amadeo | what brand? |
| 00:04.59 | vhaarr | ckknight: oRA is, contrary to popular belief, not an advertisement addon. |
| 00:05.03 | vhaarr | ckknight: sorry, I don't understand .. |
| 00:05.05 | vhaarr | Ads? |
| 00:05.10 | ckknight | vhaarr, on the screenshot. |
| 00:05.13 | leech2k | Its an HP, but has the pre-turion AMD64 |
| 00:05.19 | Amadeo | Interesting |
| 00:05.20 | ckknight | for imageshack.us |
| 00:05.23 | vhaarr | ckknight: whatever it is, I don't see it. |
| 00:05.25 | ckknight | below the screenshot are ads. |
| 00:05.28 | vhaarr | oh |
| 00:05.31 | vhaarr | well I block them all |
| 00:05.35 | vhaarr | *ad* |
| 00:05.42 | vhaarr | so I see nothing. |
| 00:05.47 | leech2k | my friend newer core2 laptop overheats randomly during wow too |
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| 00:05.58 | leech2k | he just sets a large box fan next to while he plays |
| 00:06.05 | Amadeo | What brand is his? |
| 00:06.11 | leech2k | mass annoying on vent though sounds like a helicopter |
| 00:06.13 | Amadeo | I think that's ridiculous |
| 00:06.16 | leech2k | His is an Acer |
| 00:06.29 | Amadeo | if a laptop overheats and you don't have it on something hot or covering up the ventilation |
| 00:06.37 | Amadeo | that's pretty lame |
| 00:06.44 | Wiki | people who talk on vent with fans next to their face piss me off. |
| 00:06.57 | leech2k | Wiki: I know! it sucks |
| 00:06.58 | Amadeo | People who talk on Vent piss me off |
| 00:07.04 | leech2k | lol |
| 00:07.30 | Wiki | we have this one guy in our guild who *insists* he doesn't, but he's lying. |
| 00:07.41 | leech2k | My desktop even overheats in the summer playing wow :-) |
| 00:07.51 | Wiki | holy shit lol |
| 00:07.58 | Wiki | go to newegg and buy case fans =P |
| 00:08.02 | leech2k | OEM fan though with a huger overclock |
| 00:08.06 | Wiki | or a new case |
| 00:08.07 | ag` | if a laptop turns off while gaming it should be returned. |
| 00:08.08 | leech2k | huge |
| 00:08.12 | Amadeo | ag`: Agreed |
| 00:08.23 | leech2k | ag`: So many do though. |
| 00:08.34 | Amadeo | Generally cheap or discount laptops do |
| 00:08.38 | ag` | yes, but it's faulty |
| 00:09.01 | ag` | I don't know, I think Acers should be okay.. |
| 00:09.01 | Wiki | does ibm sell gaming-ish laptops? |
| 00:09.16 | ag` | they only sell with workstation graphics I think |
| 00:09.17 | leech2k | I have seen it with several brands. |
| 00:09.34 | leech2k | Always when playing 3d games though. |
| 00:09.36 | Amadeo | ag`: I think almost every company produces cheap versions |
| 00:09.47 | Amadeo | and some produce only cheap versions! |
| 00:09.53 | leech2k | hp! |
| 00:09.55 | leech2k | compaq! |
| 00:09.57 | leech2k | dell! |
| 00:10.11 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r15198 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Food/PTEmbedElemFood.lua: |
| 00:10.11 | CIA-17 | PeriodicTable: |
| 00:10.11 | CIA-17 | -moved 21235 to percfood |
| 00:10.21 | leech2k | hmm ya my Sony never overheated |
| 00:10.33 | Wiki | wait so. can you get a thinkpad, reasonably priced, that's capable of running wow smoothly at decently high settings? |
| 00:10.38 | leech2k | but it had a lame video card |
| 00:10.53 | Zeryl | i've got a T60 (or something newer, don't remember the numebr) from work, and it sucks playing wow |
| 00:10.54 | leech2k | thinkpads are kind of spendy |
| 00:10.56 | DrDre | Vega27: hi |
| 00:11.31 | Wiki | they are, but they're the only laptops I've ever known of that aren't pieces of crap =\ |
| 00:11.43 | Amadeo | I'm not buying any laptops until Vista is out |
| 00:12.04 | Wiki | fuck vista |
| 00:12.18 | leech2k | I have had atleast 10 laptops now. And the best one so far was a Compaq Armada (before the hp merger) |
| 00:12.29 | Amadeo | Not if you want to use/play anything that uses DX10 |
| 00:12.31 | leech2k | Granted it was a 266mhz |
| 00:12.36 | Wiki | I'll keep pir8ing windows until everyone uses linux. |
| 00:12.45 | Kalamadi | Seconded |
| 00:12.53 | Amadeo | That day won't come |
| 00:12.56 | leech2k | Wiki: With ya there. |
| 00:13.08 | leech2k | Amadeo: It probaly closer than you think. |
| 00:13.13 | mjc | I'm happy w/ osx :) |
| 00:13.14 | Wiki | that day may not come. If not, I'll keep pirating windows =P |
| 00:13.17 | Amadeo | No, it's not Linux's fault either |
| 00:13.19 | Amadeo | It's the community |
| 00:13.24 | ag` | Amadeo: yeah, I am a bit worried about buying something before DX10... Problem is, you're always waiting for something |
| 00:13.28 | Kalamadi | The whole elitist mentality? |
| 00:13.30 | Amadeo | Yeah |
| 00:13.32 | leech2k | yep |
| 00:13.47 | leech2k | We are demoning SuSe workstation now :-) |
| 00:13.52 | leech2k | demoing* |
| 00:13.58 | Wiki | no, the whole I don't want to pay for someone's colonal blowage mentality. |
| 00:14.04 | Kalamadi | Not to mention that it's a formidable task just teaching yourself enough to begin endevouring in Linux |
| 00:14.12 | leech2k | they are actually really usuable for average office staff |
| 00:14.30 | leech2k | plus novell hacked up open office to do vb macros and everything |
| 00:14.37 | Kalamadi | :O |
| 00:15.01 | Amadeo | It's also hard to get personalized help if you have trouble with Linux |
| 00:15.02 | Zeryl | bah, trying to convert oneview to the new libraries is hard |
| 00:15.14 | Wiki | ok. so I asked a question a long ass time ago about ag_UnitFrames,Squeenix, and vChat not working on alts. Turns out, one of my mods broke it. How do I go about fixing my broke ass mod? =p |
| 00:15.15 | Kalamadi | Amadeo: Agreed |
| 00:15.16 | Amadeo | People just want you to read something and figure it out on your own...which is good, but it's not good for everyone |
| 00:15.26 | Kalamadi | Again, it's the elitist mentality |
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| 00:15.46 | Kalamadi | You're expected to already know a vast amount of information before you seek help from the average readme |
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| 00:15.53 | Amadeo | Right |
| 00:16.00 | leech2k | Amadeo: Ah, that is were buying a commercial copy wins. 50$ get u 24 tech support for a year with suse :-) |
| 00:16.12 | leech2k | u dont get the with m$ |
| 00:16.19 | leech2k | that* |
| 00:16.43 | Amadeo | Can you call up SuSE and ask them how to get your video card working right, or something simple like that, though? |
| 00:16.51 | leech2k | Yep. |
| 00:16.56 | leech2k | Its crazy. |
| 00:17.07 | leech2k | They support openoffice on windows even. |
| 00:17.19 | Amadeo | They won't point you to a website and tell you to read the documentation that was written 15 years ago by Einstein? |
| 00:17.23 | Amadeo | :) |
| 00:17.28 | Wiki | that's nice. what about my problems? My wow mod breaks ag_unitframes, squeenix, and vchat. Help! |
| 00:17.34 | Zeryl | ok, so converting from AceLocale2.1 -> 2.2, can I just change RegisterTranslation to RegisterTranslations? |
| 00:17.41 | leech2k | I have called them a few times and everytime has been like 3 minture solutions from a human being. |
| 00:17.50 | Amadeo | That's pretty cool |
| 00:18.14 | leech2k | We will see if they can keep it up though when they have more version out there. |
| 00:18.20 | leech2k | versions* |
| 00:18.37 | Wiki | suse has been around for a long ass time |
| 00:18.39 | leech2k | They even have an update that work just like windows automatic updates. So far it works well. |
| 00:18.47 | Kalamadi | Is there any way to speed up the PCI coldplugging on boot? |
| 00:18.47 | Wiki | version 8 was out 6 years ago |
| 00:18.54 | leech2k | Yes, but Novell bought SuSe recently and dumped tons of money in it. |
| 00:19.12 | leech2k | Novell is replace netware with suse. |
| 00:19.12 | Amadeo | Wow, just for grins I checked out Ubuntu's paid support... $250 for a year |
| 00:19.15 | Amadeo | that's crazy |
| 00:19.35 | leech2k | Amadeo: Well if that is can be server support it is actually cheap. |
| 00:19.40 | Amadeo | that's Desktop |
| 00:19.42 | leech2k | o |
| 00:19.43 | Amadeo | Server is $750 |
| 00:19.56 | leech2k | Novell is 250$ for server I think and $50 for desktop. |
| 00:20.05 | Wiki | does ubuntu charge for the original copy? |
| 00:20.11 | Kalamadi | Wiki: No |
| 00:20.23 | leech2k | Every linux distro is downloadable free. |
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| 00:20.52 | leech2k | But u get bunlde commercial apps, books, and a pretty package if you buy it. :-) |
| 00:20.55 | Zeryl | so can anyone help me please? i'm trying to get rid of these errors :( |
| 00:21.40 | ckknight | gonna go eat |
| 00:21.49 | Amadeo | okay |
| 00:24.41 | Kalamadi | What's the login manager of choice? [xdm/gdm/kdm]? |
| 00:24.59 | Wiki | all the same thing =p |
| 00:25.00 | Kalamadi | I know emerging one takes a heap of time, and I don't want to do that for one that I don't intend to keep >_> |
| 00:25.02 | Zeryl | what DE are you gonna use? |
| 00:25.15 | Kalamadi | Zeryl: Fluxbox |
| 00:25.25 | Wiki | then use qingy or xdm |
| 00:25.30 | ag` | Kalamadi: gdm :P |
| 00:25.56 | Zeryl | ya, i wouldn't use kdm/gdm since your gonna not use kde/gnome |
| 00:26.10 | Zeryl | no good reason for that though |
| 00:26.45 | Kalamadi | How difficult is it to customize each login manager? Or is it practically the same across all? |
| 00:27.03 | Zeryl | I think they are all fairly similar. I don't know there is much of a difference at all |
| 00:27.07 | Wiki | I dunno. I don't use 'em. too lazy to set them up. |
| 00:27.29 | Zeryl | i just use kdm since i use kde, haven't really played w/ gdm at all |
| 00:27.48 | Zeryl | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/09/msg01333.html |
| 00:28.15 | Zeryl | there's a comparison of the top 4 (well, top 3 plus 1 i've never seen)( |
| 00:28.34 | Kalamadi | Ah! And you make themes for the login manager using an xml file, I think |
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| 00:32.13 | Kalamadi | "emerge gdm"... |
| 00:32.28 | Kalamadi | ">>> Emerging (1 of 46)... |
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| 00:36.40 | Zeryl | emerge -pv |
| 00:36.43 | Zeryl | your best friend ever :P |
| 00:37.28 | Zeryl | and make excessive use of /etc/portage/package.use |
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| 00:39.20 | ckknight | emerge -av is better |
| 00:39.21 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 00:39.51 | Zeryl | same thingish, lol |
| 00:40.05 | Zeryl | I do av just to allow my to add use flags to the command line w/o having to type no :P |
| 00:41.16 | Zeryl | my newest install, i've made extensive use of the package.use file, it's amazing |
| 00:42.05 | eternally777 | Was PinPoint abandoned? |
| 00:42.14 | vhaarr | ckknight: What do I have to trigger for a FBP detached tooltip to update properly? self:UpdateTooltip() doesn't seem to do it. |
| 00:42.22 | vhaarr | err |
| 00:42.24 | vhaarr | ckknight: Nevermind. |
| 00:42.24 | ckknight | self:Update() |
| 00:43.47 | Zeryl | Who would I talk to about an anchoring error in oRA2? i see that it says "and others" |
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| 00:44.34 | Zeryl | OMG, 61 errors...... |
| 00:44.42 | zoktar | anyone know how to hide actionbars bindings with bartender2? |
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| 00:46.14 | vhaarr | Zeryl: Talk to me now. |
| 00:46.26 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15199 10oRA2/ (Optional/MainTank.lua Optional/PlayerTarget.lua Options.lua): oRA2: Tooltip can be detached again, since it's actually useful for something now. |
| 00:46.30 | vhaarr | Zeryl: And tell me what problem you had with BW earlier? |
| 00:46.51 | Zeryl | FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua:900: FuBarPluginoRA2Frame:SetPoint(): trying to anchor to itself |
| 00:46.58 | Zeryl | and I thought i had fixed it, but i was wrong |
| 00:47.03 | vhaarr | err |
| 00:47.05 | vhaarr | ckknight: ^ |
| 00:47.17 | vhaarr | :P |
| 00:47.47 | vhaarr | Zeryl: You thought YOU had fixed it? |
| 00:47.51 | vhaarr | Zeryl: By doing what? |
| 00:48.19 | Zeryl | ok, i did get it fixed by deleting it and redownloading it from svn, i think the change of libraries caused it (didn't delete the old libraries) |
| 00:48.26 | Industrial | Jeez, Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust was nice :P |
| 00:48.30 | Industrial | NEXT! |
| 00:48.54 | tekcub | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.00 | tekcub | man that was nice |
| 00:49.09 | tekcub | <3 hibernating |
| 00:49.38 | Zeryl | Oh, and when that error w/ oRA2 happens, no other plugins can be loaded, or it throws that error again |
| 00:49.52 | tekcub | so, unless the hubby's been drugging me in my sleep and I fail the drug test, I got the new job ^^ |
| 00:49.57 | zoktar | found it in forums :P |
| 00:50.01 | Industrial | tekcub: yay |
| 00:50.04 | Industrial | tekcub: what job? |
| 00:50.18 | tekcub | which means 0:00-8:00, ~44hr a week |
| 00:50.26 | tekcub | and nothing to do 90% of the time |
| 00:50.33 | Industrial | hmm |
| 00:50.35 | Industrial | wow! |
| 00:50.35 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:50.40 | Tem | midnight to 8am? |
| 00:50.48 | Industrial | bring your laptop \o/ |
| 00:50.54 | Tem | 5 days a week? |
| 00:50.59 | Tem | that'd be 40 hours a week |
| 00:50.59 | tekcub | and I'll have the hubby's computer there till they get one or we buy a laptop :) |
| 00:51.23 | tekcub | 0-8 2-3 days, 20-8 weekendis |
| 00:51.40 | tekcub | alternating thurs, one week's 40 the other's 48 |
| 00:52.00 | Industrial | I live from 1400 to 0600 on holidays |
| 00:52.06 | Industrial | like now :0 |
| 00:53.00 | Zeryl | vhaarr: so any clue on the plugin? |
| 00:53.02 | vhaarr | Zeryl: it seems that means oRA has two instances on the panel |
| 00:53.15 | vhaarr | Zeryl: which would be weird |
| 00:53.20 | mjc | tekcub: how hangs thy hammer |
| 00:53.39 | tekcub | hangs? some weird guy touched it today |
| 00:53.51 | tekcub | I'm not a driver, I don't get why I needed a physical |
| 00:54.37 | Industrial | you need to get checked up to get a job? |
| 00:54.54 | Industrial | wtf is that all about :P |
| 00:55.27 | Tem | it's pretty common in the US |
| 00:55.56 | pastamancer | is it? |
| 00:55.59 | vhaarr | Land of the free-as-long-as-you-have-money-and-health-insurance. |
| 00:56.01 | Industrial | so you wont get a job when you are reeally fat? (wich is also pretty common in the us) |
| 00:56.18 | vhaarr | I think the point is that if you have some terrible disease, they're better off hiring someone else. |
| 00:56.22 | vhaarr | So they won't have to pay shit. |
| 00:56.51 | vhaarr | I think we have laws against discriminating on physical conditions in norway. |
| 00:56.58 | Industrial | my government pays shit :P |
| 00:56.59 | Kalamadi | Is there anything in Block Devices which would cause a kernel panic if not included? :x |
| 00:57.05 | vhaarr | Industrial: of course it does |
| 00:57.13 | Zeryl | vhaarr: in the FuBar addon's menu, it does in fact have oRA2 twice, one I can toggle, the other is unclickable |
| 00:57.19 | vhaarr | All non-3rd-world country goverments do, except US. |
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| 00:57.47 | vhaarr | Zeryl: Right, that's the problem. |
| 00:57.59 | vhaarr | Zeryl: Delete your FuBar saved variables. |
| 00:58.12 | Zeryl | just FuBar, or all Fu addons? |
| 00:58.17 | vhaarr | fubar only |
| 00:58.25 | tekcub | yes they like to check you out in the US, usually drug tests... |
| 00:58.42 | Industrial | I would so fail |
| 00:58.45 | Industrial | xD |
| 00:58.51 | tekcub | Dept of Transportation requires physicals on people with Commercial Driver's Licenses |
| 00:59.01 | vhaarr | Drug addicts mean increased chance of suicide, and so the company would have to pay to train another employee. |
| 00:59.04 | vhaarr | It's all about cash. |
| 00:59.05 | vhaarr | :P |
| 00:59.27 | tekcub | which I'm gonna work for an oil service company, basically everyone there cept the office help have CDLs |
| 00:59.38 | Zeryl | vhaarr: same deal |
| 00:59.43 | tekcub | and increased accident rates :P |
| 00:59.51 | vhaarr | Zeryl: I don't believe you if you say you restarted wow. |
| 00:59.55 | vhaarr | Zeryl: so quickly. |
| 01:00.17 | tekcub | plus there's this longstanding belief that it'll keep people from doing drugs if there's the chance of random tests |
| 01:00.23 | Industrial | vhaarr: wow restart is pretty fast... |
| 01:00.25 | tekcub | but they never actually do random tests |
| 01:00.30 | vhaarr | Industrial: :( |
| 01:00.32 | Zeryl | why would you not believe me? I've got almost no addon's installed on this char |
| 01:00.33 | tekcub | cause, well they'd have to pay for em |
| 01:00.46 | vhaarr | Zeryl: okay so what oRA addons do you have installed except oRA2? |
| 01:01.16 | Zeryl | i've got all of the old oRA around, just not loading, i didn't delete them yet due to not knowing if oRA2 was stable (which is was until today, when I updated to svn) |
| 01:01.36 | vhaarr | did you delete their saved variables? |
| 01:01.46 | vhaarr | delete all the old oRA stuff |
| 01:01.51 | vhaarr | it doesn't work anymore anywya |
| 01:01.51 | Zeryl | no, i will delete it all now |
| 01:02.00 | Industrial | well I think its unfair to ban drugs but sell guns and alcohol (wich is also drugs), but lets not get into that - too tired |
| 01:03.11 | vhaarr | It's not weird, it's "how it always has been." |
| 01:03.14 | Zeryl | ok, loading |
| 01:03.39 | vhaarr | If we knew the same things we do about alcohol and tobacco when they were introduced that we know about drugs now, they would never have been legal in the first place. |
| 01:03.51 | Industrial | yet they still are |
| 01:03.54 | Zeryl | same thing |
| 01:03.56 | vhaarr | obviously |
| 01:04.05 | Vega27 | sup dre |
| 01:04.08 | vhaarr | Zeryl: then delete your WTF folder and your addons folder and re-download oRA2 |
| 01:04.13 | vhaarr | Zeryl: your shit is fucked up |
| 01:04.23 | Industrial | either ban it all or sell drugs like licker :P |
| 01:04.50 | Industrial | sure people will go crazy on it when its first allowed |
| 01:04.55 | Industrial | a few die.. |
| 01:05.15 | Vega27 | a few go broke |
| 01:05.17 | Industrial | but then everyones like "yeah gotta get to work, live you know" |
| 01:05.25 | Industrial | and all the smart ones go on |
| 01:05.35 | Industrial | natural selection, tadah |
| 01:05.49 | vhaarr | See, that doesn't work in a socialist democracy :) |
| 01:05.56 | Industrial | why not |
| 01:06.01 | vhaarr | we have to take care of everyone :) |
| 01:06.08 | Industrial | oh right :P |
| 01:06.25 | Industrial | well thats just my little fantasy world then ^^ |
| 01:09.17 | Industrial | vhaarr: anyway, I dont see 'KID DIED OFF WEED' every day in the newspaper |
| 01:09.26 | vhaarr | :D |
| 01:10.12 | Industrial | banning it is creating a problem that doesnt have to be there, and the netherlands proves it with weed imho |
| 01:10.47 | vhaarr | the only thing netherlands prove is how mankind stops at nothing to prove that it can beat nature |
| 01:11.08 | Industrial | beat nature? |
| 01:11.20 | vhaarr | shouldn't you be drowning just about ... now? |
| 01:11.30 | Industrial | lol. |
| 01:11.32 | vhaarr | :P |
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| 01:18.46 | Kalamadi | Whee, making the kernel panic again <3 |
| 01:19.12 | Kalamadi | I was changing the Block Device options and it started panicking, changed them back...still panics |
| 01:24.57 | mjc | changing the options recompiling and reinstalling? |
| 01:25.15 | mjc | or just in the middle of changing them |
| 01:25.24 | mjc | eg sitting idle wiating for oyu to run somethign |
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| 01:26.28 | Zeryl | yay for addon's backups |
| 01:26.40 | Kalamadi | mjc: The former |
| 01:26.57 | mjc | what LBD options have you been dicking iwth |
| 01:27.27 | Kalamadi | Just going down the list and removing things which don't sound remotely needed |
| 01:27.59 | mjc | what was the panic |
| 01:28.14 | Vega27 | http://pvpexploits.on.nimp.org/grandmarshalexploit | omfg lol this is so gonna get patched |
| 01:28.16 | Kalamadi | Unable to mount VFS, I think |
| 01:28.59 | Kalamadi | Get out. |
| 01:29.46 | Zeryl | nice one vega.... ass |
| 01:30.14 | ag` | hey, some guy here wants to get banned :P |
| 01:30.23 | Vega27 | lol |
| 01:39.40 | Kalamadi | mjc: okay, I have some more detail now |
| 01:39.56 | Kebinusan | Vega27, so can I just say keylogger now w/o loading the site |
| 01:40.01 | mjc | Kalamadi: unable to mount vfs = you disabled something you shouldn't |
| 01:40.07 | Kalamadi | VFS: Cannot open root device "ram0" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 01:40.15 | Vega27 | not keyloger |
| 01:40.20 | mjc | you turned off initrd stuff |
| 01:40.30 | Vega27 | its just one of those sites that make yoru internet browser do tricks |
| 01:40.32 | Kalamadi | I didn't touch it |
| 01:40.36 | Vega27 | no idea what it does to IE |
| 01:40.36 | Zeryl | no keylogger, just a crap load of CRAP |
| 01:40.40 | Kalamadi | Vega: Shut up and get lost. |
| 01:40.46 | Vega27 | lol |
| 01:41.18 | Vega27 | in other words dont click it :P |
| 01:41.35 | Vega27 | btw you can change the link anyway you want |
| 01:41.48 | Kalamadi | mjc: The changes I made before it started panicking were undone and it's still panicking -_-; |
| 01:41.52 | Kebinusan | allow me to say wow, fuck you for pasting that link in here |
| 01:41.54 | mjc | Vega27: get the fuck out of here, asshat |
| 01:41.59 | Vega27 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:42.33 | mjc | Kalamadi: you probably changed something wrt. cramfs or initrd support |
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| 01:45.32 | Kalamadi | I'll delete .config and try again, being more careful this time... |
| 01:45.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!n=chatzill@*.nc.res.rr.com] by ckknight |
| 01:45.46 | *** kick/#wowace [Vega27!n=ckknight@198.199.136.119] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 01:45.50 | Kalamadi | Problem is that I don't know where genkernel keeps the .config files. I feel like such a nub. |
| 01:45.56 | mjc | haha |
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| 01:46.35 | ckknight | note to others: talking about gay sex or posting up NSFW things is fine, just don't post links to exploits. |
| 01:46.58 | Kalamadi | It wasn't an exploit, just annoying browser manipulation crap |
| 01:47.02 | ckknight | whatever |
| 01:47.05 | ckknight | he's an asshat. |
| 01:47.07 | Kalamadi | Agreed. |
| 01:47.12 | Zeryl | it was retarded either way :( |
| 01:47.37 | ckknight | and if he were to message me saying he was sorry, I'd probably unban him |
| 01:47.39 | ckknight | but he hasn't |
| 01:47.40 | ckknight | so I won't. |
| 01:48.07 | ckknight | granted, he might be trying and just not registered with nickserv |
| 01:48.13 | ckknight | but in that case, it's his own fault |
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| 01:51.09 | mjc | ie anyone that isn't ckknight loses an eye |
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| 01:53.06 | mjc | damn I didn't even realize I dinged 47 |
| 01:53.21 | Kalamadi | Dammit, I can't kill my old config |
| 01:54.02 | ckknight | grats, mjc |
| 01:54.09 | mjc | hehe |
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| 01:55.07 | Kalamadi | I've deleted all variations of .config in /usr/src/linux*/ |
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| 01:57.50 | [FH]Birdemani | that was gay as shit |
| 01:58.43 | That1Swede | What was? |
| 01:58.47 | [FH]Birdemani | that link |
| 01:58.51 | [FH]Birdemani | crashed my system hard |
| 01:58.59 | [FH]Birdemani | took me a while to fix it too |
| 02:00.00 | Kebinusan | ty, ck that assclown should be relegated to the lowest depths of efnet |
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| 02:01.20 | Kalamadi | Argh! How do I keep oldconfig from executing? |
| 02:01.45 | Gngsk | ~/.config |
| 02:02.00 | [FH]Birdemani | was there anything destructive on that site? |
| 02:02.46 | Zeryl | no, notihng destructive |
| 02:03.10 | Zeryl | just a bunch of browser crap (spawning hundreds of windows) spawning mail, telnet, irc, aim, etc over and over |
| 02:03.23 | Zeryl | many media file includes |
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| 02:09.02 | Kalamadi | :O |
| 02:09.32 | Kalamadi | I'm documenting my every change now >_< |
| 02:11.56 | Amadeo | does that site affect Opera? :) |
| 02:12.00 | Amadeo | i'm not gonna try it :P |
| 02:12.12 | Kalamadi | Amadeo: Probably. It messed with my FF a bit |
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| 02:19.51 | Amadeo | aww |
| 02:19.52 | Amadeo | brb |
| 02:20.22 | DrDre | lol Zeryl needs to ditch IE |
| 02:20.29 | DrDre | all it did to me was freeze browser |
| 02:20.34 | DrDre | nothing else happened, firefox ftw |
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| 02:36.59 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15200 10BossBlock/ (BossBlock.toc Core.lua): BossBlock - TOC updates |
| 02:37.44 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15201 10BossBlock/ (BossBlock.toc Libs/): BossBlock - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed) |
| 02:40.18 | eternally777 | Random question: would there be a performance difference between "if x == y then else [..do stuff here..] end" and "if x ~= y then [..do-stuff-here..] end"? |
| 02:40.52 | DrDre | Probally so fractional it doesnt really matter :p |
| 02:41.08 | DrDre | less lines to parse with 2nd method at least |
| 02:41.16 | eternally777 | Yeah, that's what I figured. |
| 02:52.08 | Tekkub | with ## LoadWith is your addon loaded before or after the addon? |
| 02:52.29 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r15202 10AutoBar/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:52.29 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 02:52.29 | CIA-17 | -Adding percfoods for Halloween |
| 02:53.05 | Tekkub | oh wait, doesn't matter, OnEnable is when I do my shit anyway |
| 02:55.11 | Kalamadi | ... |
| 02:55.21 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15203 10PeriodicTable/ (FeedomaticPlugin.lua PeriodicTable.toc): PeriodicTable - Tweaks to FOM plugin, library should now work correctly with it, it wouldn't load before unless some other addon had PT as an OptDep |
| 02:55.24 | Kalamadi | So, the guild leader gave 200 DKP bonus to those who downed Nef the other night |
| 02:55.32 | Kalamadi | We get a base of 10 DKP per boss usually. |
| 02:55.35 | Kalamadi | Can you say inflation? |
| 02:55.51 | Tekkub | infatuation |
| 02:55.55 | Tekkub | nope, I can't |
| 02:55.56 | Kalamadi | ... |
| 02:56.08 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15204 10PeriodicTable/ (Libs/ PeriodicTable.toc): PeriodicTable - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed) |
| 02:56.47 | kergoth | what is the feed o matic plugin? is that like for hunters to feed their pets, or what? |
| 02:57.11 | Tekkub | it overwrites FOM's old food sets with more up to date PT ones |
| 02:57.25 | Tekkub | that's only PT-1.0 tho |
| 02:57.32 | Tekkub | havn't slipped it into PT-2.0 |
| 03:02.09 | kergoth | ah |
| 03:02.35 | Tekkub | I'd prolly make it a seperate addon for PT2 |
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| 03:47.03 | That1Swede | Kalamadi, that's kind of.. insane. |
| 04:12.09 | kergoth | tekcub: pretty sure loadwith is after not before |
| 04:12.11 | kergoth | bleh |
| 04:12.23 | tekcub | either works, it doesn't matte |
| 04:12.32 | tekcub | I forgot, Ace2, OnEnable, etc |
| 04:13.00 | CIA-17 | 03pb_ee1 * r15206 10ChatLog/: ChatLog: Updating externals. |
| 04:13.33 | pb_ee1 | Yay! My first release ;p |
| 04:13.40 | kergoth | whats that? |
| 04:14.01 | tekcub | it.. sogs... chat... ? |
| 04:14.09 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ChatLog |
| 04:14.09 | tekcub | s/s/l/ |
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| 04:14.24 | Neebler | I'll stick with chatlog 1.2.5 :P |
| 04:14.34 | pb_ee1 | Why that? ;p |
| 04:14.36 | Neebler | not liking the all-or-none new logging in 2.0 |
| 04:14.59 | pastamancer | does it save the contents of your chat windows between reloads? that would be pretty sweet |
| 04:15.07 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: Yes |
| 04:15.11 | pastamancer | ooh |
| 04:15.21 | pb_ee1 | Neebler: What do you mean? ;) |
| 04:16.25 | Neebler | Well, before when I was using a previous version of chatlog that was bugged, and would record every chat even if it were disabled...I'd notice a huge increase in UI memory garbage collection |
| 04:16.48 | Neebler | then you fixed that bug and the steady increase went away |
| 04:17.07 | pb_ee1 | Yep, logs where going over 24 000 lines... xD |
| 04:17.53 | pb_ee1 | But I still don't understand what you mean by "not liking the all-or-none new logging" ;p |
| 04:18.19 | That1Swede | pb_ee1, I think he means that it logs all the chat channels/etc. instead of just select ones 'whisper'/raid/and such. |
| 04:18.39 | pb_ee1 | But you can disable each chat, can't you? :) |
| 04:18.54 | That1Swede | See, he doesn't know that. ;P |
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| 04:19.12 | That1Swede | You can disable the logging of different chat channels? |
| 04:19.24 | pb_ee1 | There's a big button "Disable" at the bottom ;p It only concerns the current chat |
| 04:19.32 | pb_ee1 | But it's true it's not very clear |
| 04:19.45 | That1Swede | It does say it on the wiki page. |
| 04:19.54 | That1Swede | "Enable/disable logging for each chat." |
| 04:20.13 | That1Swede | Neebler, rejoice and upgrade! |
| 04:20.27 | pb_ee1 | So if you're on the whisper chat and if you click on "Disable", ChatLog will not log any new lines of the Whisper chat ;p |
| 04:20.50 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r15207 10AutoBar/ (4 files): |
| 04:20.50 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 04:20.50 | CIA-17 | -Pet Category added. Reset to pick up the pet slot (rogues need to manually add it). |
| 04:20.56 | Neebler | well in the changelog you wrote this: |
| 04:21.01 | Neebler | "I am using a Blizzard function to save logs in a file (it is called LoggingChat(), see http://www.wowwiki.com/API_LoggingChat for more information). As you can see, it is impossible to customize this function: you can log everything or log nothing. You cannot choose what you want to log. |
| 04:21.15 | pastamancer | pb_ee1: it's looking for AceLocale-2.2 but Libs has 2.0 |
| 04:21.16 | pb_ee1 | This only concerns logging into the files |
| 04:22.02 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: oops true, correcting this immediatly |
| 04:23.04 | CIA-17 | 03pb_ee1 * r15208 10ChatLog/: |
| 04:23.04 | CIA-17 | ChatLog: Updated externals. |
| 04:23.04 | CIA-17 | - Externals were pointing to AceLocale-2.0 instead of AceLocale-2.2. |
| 04:23.46 | DrDre | wtf |
| 04:23.50 | DrDre | anyone php code? |
| 04:23.56 | DrDre | this is fucking retarded O.o |
| 04:24.31 | DrDre | $blah = <<<BLAH some data BLAH; getting an unspected $end; ;/ this makes 0 sense |
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| 04:26.10 | pb_ee1 | Neebler: I've added a note in order not to be confused with normal logging |
| 04:27.23 | pb_ee1 | Is there an AddOn that only displays the current percent of life/mana of mobs/players in the target/player frames? |
| 04:27.27 | pastamancer | pb_ee1: ChatLog\ChatLog.lua:715: attempt to index global `CHATLOG_SAVED_CONF' (a nil value) |
| 04:27.36 | pb_ee1 | (I don't like MobHealth) |
| 04:28.05 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: At logging? |
| 04:28.10 | pastamancer | at login |
| 04:28.30 | pb_ee1 | login* even |
| 04:29.15 | pb_ee1 | huh? Strange error |
| 04:29.50 | That1Swede | DrDre, what're you trying to do? ;P |
| 04:30.14 | DrDre | <html xml:lang="en" lang="en" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> |
| 04:30.22 | DrDre | enclose large portion of html in a var |
| 04:30.28 | DrDre | that line is causing it to bug O.o |
| 04:30.34 | pastamancer | pb_ee1: you may want to consider using AceDB |
| 04:30.34 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: Couldn't reproduce your bug |
| 04:30.39 | DrDre | using the $var = <<<SOMENAME SOMENAME; method |
| 04:30.40 | That1Swede | DrDre, $blah = """Lots of multilinecrap"""; ? |
| 04:31.16 | DrDre | i prefer this method :P I just really do not understand this error |
| 04:31.25 | DrDre | wtf about that line would cause it O.o |
| 04:31.40 | pastamancer | pb_ee1: I get it consistently because I don't have any savedvars for chatlog yet |
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| 04:32.02 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: I did not use AceDB because I did not want to (don't want to have profiles for ChatLog / does not need), but I should look at it more seriously |
| 04:32.46 | pastamancer | pb_ee1: at least for the configuration, I only want to log chat for my main |
| 04:32.50 | DrDre | its the word 'html' causing it O.o |
| 04:32.55 | pb_ee1 | packetlss: I deleted my ChatLog.lua files in both SavedVariables folders, downloaded the AddOn from WoWAce, logged in and everything was fine |
| 04:33.36 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: You should be able to save the config for each character separatly |
| 04:33.53 | pb_ee1 | Sorry, last message was for pastamancer |
| 04:34.43 | pb_ee1 | Actually the CHATLOG_SAVED_CONF is defined in the ChatLog.lua file, so this error should not appear, I'm wondering why you have this :/ |
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| 04:35.31 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:35.42 | DrDre | wow |
| 04:35.49 | ckknight | wow? |
| 04:35.51 | DrDre | i finally found a time leaving off the ?> causes problems >< |
| 04:36.00 | DrDre | pretty lame bug imo |
| 04:36.04 | DrDre | (talking php) |
| 04:36.11 | ckknight | oh |
| 04:36.21 | ckknight | talking Satan's language. |
| 04:36.24 | DrDre | >_> |
| 04:36.27 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 04:37.28 | DrDre | solution to that bug, add some random line at end of file! I dont like closing php tags at end of a file :p |
| 04:37.37 | tekcub | pb_ee1, how far back does ChatLog save? |
| 04:38.05 | tekcub | oh, 1000 lines |
| 04:38.08 | tekcub | me read gut |
| 04:38.19 | pb_ee1 | 1000 lines for each chat, but you can change this in the CHATLOG_DEFAULT_CONF var (I will have to add an option to change it I suppose) |
| 04:38.38 | tekcub | yea options are good :) |
| 04:38.38 | pastamancer | I ran /script CHATLOG_SAVED_CONF = CHATLOG_DEFAULT_CONF["savedconfdefaults"] and reloaded and now I get ChatLog\ChatLog.lua:747: attempt to index global `CHATLOG_LOGS' (a nil value) |
| 04:38.47 | pb_ee1 | It's a bit memory consuming I think, that is the problem. But dunno how much |
| 04:38.50 | pastamancer | it looks as if the savedvars aren't being initialized properly |
| 04:39.12 | tekcub | 1000 lines is a lot really |
| 04:39.18 | pb_ee1 | Try typing /script CHATLOG_LOGS = {} and Rreloading your UI? |
| 04:39.26 | tekcub | I'd opt for 100 per channel at best |
| 04:39.29 | tekcub | default :) |
| 04:39.51 | pb_ee1 | That's not a lot ;p It is 161 in Blizzard's default UI |
| 04:40.10 | pastamancer | no errors after the reload |
| 04:40.21 | tekcub | yea but the general point is to save people from losing recent chant after a relog yes? |
| 04:40.29 | tekcub | not provide an extensive history |
| 04:40.29 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: The bug you have is really strange, these variables should be initialized by the UI without any problems |
| 04:40.40 | tekcub | so by default keep the memory usage as low as you can |
| 04:40.52 | tekcub | let the user choose to bloat their savedvars :) |
| 04:41.02 | pb_ee1 | tekcub: It should also make the user able to copy/past the log in other applications ;p |
| 04:41.20 | pb_ee1 | Yeah, now that you tell me, I should add an option to change this value ;) |
| 04:41.32 | tekcub | not a feature I need :) |
| 04:42.18 | pb_ee1 | Thanks to the RegisterChatCommands, thanks to Ace2 (/lick) |
| 04:42.43 | tekcub | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.49 | tekcub | and I think it's an emote already |
| 04:42.57 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 04:43.04 | pb_ee1 | This isn't what I meant ;p |
| 04:43.16 | tekcub | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.28 | pb_ee1 | lol, that's perfect |
| 04:43.29 | tekcub | just watch out for those "rape isn't funny" whiners we got with BigWigs |
| 04:43.31 | pastamancer | I seem to have misplaced the chatlog button thingy and /clog resetloc isn't placing is somewhere I can see it. Where's the default position? |
| 04:44.03 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: Ouchee, need to add the /resetbutton command xD |
| 04:44.49 | pb_ee1 | ; /clog resetbutton * even |
| 04:45.17 | tekcub | you know what we need... a lil chat addon that maintains color per-channelname instead of per-channelnumber |
| 04:45.38 | tekcub | I want to drop Cirk's Chat Manager |
| 04:45.38 | pastamancer | oh, it doesn't save the state of the chatframes. that's what I was looking for |
| 04:46.14 | pb_ee1 | But if you can have more info on your variables not being initialized pastamancer, I would be pleased to hear about it |
| 04:46.28 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: what do you call "state of the chatframes"? |
| 04:46.39 | pastamancer | did you ever play SWG? |
| 04:46.50 | pb_ee1 | Nope :'( |
| 04:46.56 | pastamancer | oh |
| 04:47.13 | pb_ee1 | I'm a new nooby on WoW, it is my first MMORPG |
| 04:47.15 | pastamancer | I hate that reloading my UI clears all the text in my chat frames |
| 04:47.50 | pb_ee1 | Ah, you would like to fill them with what was there before reloading |
| 04:48.06 | pastamancer | exactly |
| 04:48.16 | sylvanaar | tektub - you know there is one in cosmos |
| 04:48.57 | pb_ee1 | It is possible, but the problem is that ChatLog (at the moment) does not save from which frame was the message saved |
| 04:49.00 | sylvanaar | ConsisTint i think |
| 04:49.23 | pb_ee1 | So it is impossible to restore them at the moment, but this was an option that I wanted to add |
| 04:50.09 | pastamancer | I suppose you'd have to hook :AddMessage |
| 04:50.18 | sylvanaar | 81 lines long - no dependancies |
| 04:52.01 | pb_ee1 | Does somebody knows the name of an addon that only displays the percent/value of health/mana/rage/.... of player & target in the Blizzard's Default frames? |
| 04:52.20 | pb_ee1 | I don't want MobHealth, it does a few things that I don't need |
| 04:52.30 | sylvanaar | the defualt ui |
| 04:52.41 | sylvanaar | does % |
| 04:52.41 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Not of the target |
| 04:53.05 | pb_ee1 | And you don't have the % of the player's health/mana & target |
| 04:53.11 | sylvanaar | yeah, true |
| 04:53.54 | pb_ee1 | I'm actually asking this to know if I should import my mod that does this ;p (192 lines) |
| 04:54.33 | sylvanaar | ah, how does it compare to something like archaeologist |
| 04:57.08 | pb_ee1 | Hum... quite simple (reading Archaeologist description page, didn't know about that addon) |
| 04:57.32 | pb_ee1 | Only displays the current value of health & mana/rage/energy of you and your target |
| 04:57.37 | sylvanaar | just wondering, that mod is huge anyways be nice to have a smaller version |
| 04:57.51 | pb_ee1 | Not of the party and not of your pet at the moment, but could be improved |
| 04:58.01 | pb_ee1 | And it should be quite simple |
| 04:58.08 | pb_ee1 | (and in Ace2 ;) ) |
| 04:58.37 | sylvanaar | yeah, you might want to aske the authors of the unit frames mods about it |
| 04:59.17 | Kalamadi | I'm down to "device drivers" on the kernel options... |
| 04:59.49 | Kalamadi | I'm saving a working config, changing the options, recompiling, saving again, changing, etc |
| 04:59.54 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15209 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - added Karazhan and Zul'Aman |
| 05:00.10 | pastamancer | well, UnitHealth and UnitHealthMax return percentages for units that aren't in your party, so it would be pretty easy to write |
| 05:00.24 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: what do you mean? |
| 05:00.54 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: It is what I use indeed |
| 05:01.24 | pb_ee1 | But it does more than that: if the value of the health or mana is known, it displays this value instead of the percent |
| 05:01.44 | pb_ee1 | Only works on yourself & party/raid members |
| 05:01.46 | ckknight | Anyone know the link to the Blizzard Torrent Extractor? |
| 05:02.17 | ckknight | nvm |
| 05:02.52 | pastamancer | pb_ee1: true, you'd have to throw in a little bit of logic to convert non percent values to percentages |
| 05:05.06 | pb_ee1 | Then, should I upload this mod or is this useless for the reason that it is not doing a lot of things (actually I'm always using it because I didn't want a big and huge percent displaying addon) |
| 05:06.01 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: The link is displayed in the log when you download with the Blizzard downloader :) |
| 05:06.36 | ckknight | the link to the torrent file? |
| 05:06.48 | pb_ee1 | To the tracker |
| 05:07.10 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: i was just thinking they may know more about what's important to show |
| 05:07.17 | ckknight | to the tracker doesn't matter |
| 05:07.27 | ckknight | I wanted the torrent file. |
| 05:07.35 | pb_ee1 | But I think you can easily make a torrent with BitComet. |
| 05:07.48 | ckknight | I already found the torrent extractor |
| 05:07.55 | pb_ee1 | Have to check though |
| 05:08.02 | pb_ee1 | Ha ;p |
| 05:08.49 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: You mean the authors of which unit frames? The Blizzard developpers? :p |
| 05:10.49 | tekcub | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_Downloader |
| 05:10.50 | tekcub | :) |
| 05:11.36 | pastamancer | hmm, I need a good whack-a-mole image for Grid :p |
| 05:11.46 | Kalamadi | pastamancer: Use the seal icon! |
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| 05:12.21 | Kalamadi | Hmm. Device Drivers seems to be where I'm getting hung up |
| 05:12.49 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r15210 10/branches/AckBar/ (9 files in 4 dirs): |
| 05:12.49 | CIA-17 | AckBar: |
| 05:12.49 | CIA-17 | -Branched for TBC version |
| 05:12.49 | CIA-17 | -Works great, even stance swapping in combat works |
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| 05:14.46 | CIA-17 | 03devla 07TBC * r15211 10AckBar/AckBar/Libs/: |
| 05:14.46 | CIA-17 | AckBar: |
| 05:14.46 | CIA-17 | -Set Externals |
| 05:15.02 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: no the ace ones, or perhaps make a forum post |
| 05:15.17 | pastamancer | nah, the druid aquatic form one isn't very good, and I idn't see any hat I liked going through the list of icons for macros |
| 05:15.21 | alcaras | hrm, aside from trying it out, how can i check if bartender has been fixed for stance switching in combat |
| 05:15.26 | alcaras | is there a website listing svn changes? |
| 05:15.50 | sylvanaar | rss feeds and google groups |
| 05:15.56 | pastamancer | you probably want google groups |
| 05:15.58 | alcaras | link me |
| 05:16.01 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: AceUnitFrames? |
| 05:16.15 | pastamancer | alcaras: http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=Bartender&qt_s=Search |
| 05:16.27 | alcaras | uh |
| 05:16.36 | pastamancer | err wait |
| 05:16.38 | pastamancer | wrong search box |
| 05:16.40 | pastamancer | hang on |
| 05:16.42 | alcaras | that gave me a lot of links to the alcohol sort of bar :P |
| 05:17.01 | pastamancer | http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/search?group=wowace&q=bartender&qt_g=1&searchnow=Search+this+group |
| 05:17.32 | alcaras | thanks! |
| 05:17.51 | pastamancer | no problem, I enjoy your posts on pt.o :) |
| 05:18.08 | alcaras | :) |
| 05:18.09 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: yeah or the other one, which thats being developed now ag_unitframes |
| 05:18.34 | alcaras | apparently bartender doesn't have a TBC branch |
| 05:18.45 | pb_ee1 | Ok thanks :) |
| 05:19.48 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: but im just making suggestions on where to get input from |
| 05:19.57 | alcaras | i shall try ackbar :) |
| 05:20.05 | pb_ee1 | Last thing: do you know about an addon that enables the user to do two different actions when clicking on a spell/macro/item in an action bar with the left/right mouse button? |
| 05:20.48 | pb_ee1 | One of my friend developped one, and for instance you can: (Mage) left-click on a bottle to drink it, right-click to conjure some water |
| 05:20.53 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: yes but TBC will support that natively |
| 05:21.24 | pb_ee1 | Ho? And how do you configure it? I have access to the Beta but couldn't find out how to do it |
| 05:21.28 | ckknight | if by natively, you mean with an addon. |
| 05:22.13 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15212 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - added Zul'Aman, Caverns of Time, and Kharazan |
| 05:22.13 | sylvanaar | ckknight: yeah |
| 05:22.13 | ckknight | it's more natural with TBC's additions, though |
| 05:22.14 | pb_ee1 | Actually it works with blizzard default bars |
| 05:23.36 | sylvanaar | yes, its perfectly doable now but mostly not that useful except for special cases like right click self cast or what you are talking about |
| 05:24.05 | pb_ee1 | Yep, it's also doing right-click self cast |
| 05:24.20 | pb_ee1 | Ho too bad, I thought we had found a nice thing :( |
| 05:24.51 | sylvanaar | well why would you want your 'shadow word pain' button to cast 'greater heal' |
| 05:26.04 | alcaras | ckknight: is fubar taint free, or if not, what can i do to help make it taintf ree? |
| 05:26.40 | ckknight | alcaras, I committed some stuff today to make it that way, I was almost done when the realms went down |
| 05:26.46 | ckknight | I'm installing the patch now |
| 05:27.03 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: That was not the idea. It was more something like conjuring water/rubys, casting a lesser rank of a spell, self casting, mage shields, warlock stones, etc. |
| 05:27.11 | pastamancer | ooh, a patch for beta? I hope it includes the SecurePartyFrame |
| 05:27.13 | alcaras | i presume you are just making core fubar work right? i.e. not branching off a tbc version? (i don't see a fubar tbc branch) |
| 05:27.22 | ckknight | there's no reason to branch |
| 05:27.32 | ckknight | and it's the libraries, not FuBar, that are taintin |
| 05:27.33 | ckknight | g |
| 05:27.39 | alcaras | ah. |
| 05:27.52 | alcaras | and the libraries are branched. |
| 05:27.56 | ckknight | no. |
| 05:28.07 | alcaras | no? what is http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace2/TBC/ then |
| 05:28.19 | ckknight | Ace2 is only one set of libraries that FuBar uses. |
| 05:28.26 | ckknight | FuBar uses a few more libs than that |
| 05:28.27 | alcaras | ah, the non-ace2 libs, i get it |
| 05:28.33 | alcaras | and _those_ aren't branched |
| 05:28.45 | alcaras | e.g. compost, dewdrop, jostle |
| 05:28.45 | sylvanaar | alcaras: ah right, i think that there are mods that do 1 or 2 of those things at a time but nothing generic |
| 05:29.04 | pb_ee1 | My current version of ChatLog works in Burning Crusade, I only have to change the .TOC. Where do I upload this "special" version if I'd like to? In the branches? |
| 05:29.22 | alcaras | thanks ckknight! |
| 05:29.51 | pastamancer | fun fact: 1.12 will load addons with Interface: 200000 in the toc |
| 05:30.05 | sylvanaar | er pb_ee1 not alcaras |
| 05:30.12 | ckknight | yea, pastamancer |
| 05:30.19 | ckknight | it'll also load with 20000 in the toc, won't it? |
| 05:30.40 | pastamancer | dunno, did I have an extra 0 in there? |
| 05:30.54 | pb_ee1 | yep |
| 05:31.11 | ckknight | yes. |
| 05:31.15 | pastamancer | heh, I'll go fix that in Grid.toc then |
| 05:31.23 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: You can add/remove spells as you wish by using slashcommands or the FuBar |
| 05:32.04 | alcaras | i wonder if wow will still be around when the toc # hits 200000 |
| 05:32.27 | ckknight | Expansion #19 :-P |
| 05:32.38 | pb_ee1 | Indeed :p |
| 05:32.40 | ckknight | I can't think that far in the future |
| 05:32.43 | alcaras | at the current rate that'll be in 2044... |
| 05:32.45 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: its going require a new implementation for tbc - thats why i was mentioning it - good idea - perhaps target 2.0 not 1.12 |
| 05:32.58 | alcaras | sorry, Q4 2046 |
| 05:33.03 | ckknight | alcaras, no, they plan to release one expansion peryear. |
| 05:33.13 | alcaras | until they do it i won't believe it :) |
| 05:33.16 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Ho ok ;) But the AddOn is quite simple, it shouldn't take long |
| 05:33.44 | pb_ee1 | I know in a Blizzard's interview they said that they were expecting WoW to last until 2010 at least |
| 05:34.09 | pastamancer | there, fixed. I can't believe that Grid's already at r104 in its private svn |
| 05:34.12 | pb_ee1 | (a word missing somewhere ;p) |
| 05:34.16 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: go for it, i was just letting you know you will have to recode it in a month or so |
| 05:34.38 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Two months, BC is expected for January 2007 ;) |
| 05:35.14 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: i use a right-click self cast mod - i cant live without it |
| 05:35.25 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: great concept |
| 05:36.05 | pb_ee1 | I will upload it to WoWAce, it is called MultiSpellEffect. I hope users will like it ;) More info in a near future |
| 05:36.26 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: cool, i'll have to check it out |
| 05:37.07 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: supports self-cast right? |
| 05:37.30 | CIA-17 | 03devla 07TBC * r15213 10AckBar/AckBar/AckBar.toc: |
| 05:37.30 | CIA-17 | AckBar: |
| 05:37.30 | CIA-17 | -Fixed TOC |
| 05:39.42 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Yes, self-cast by default on the right click, and another spell that you defined instead if you want to |
| 05:40.38 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: for some reason my right click self cast mod is like 80 LOC, im not sure why it needs all that code, i just assume there are some non-trivial aspects to it |
| 05:42.18 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15214 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - missing comma |
| 05:42.54 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15215 10JostleLib/Jostle-2.0/Jostle-2.0.lua: .Jostle-2.0 - now uses secure hooks |
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| 05:43.46 | ckknight | alright, FuBar should be untainted now, alcaras |
| 05:44.22 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: It is compatible with FuBar and have a few SlashCommands, so I suppose the code is a bit long too, but there isn't any useless code. And it is compatible with any localization of the game |
| 05:46.54 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: sounds great to me |
| 05:48.00 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Coding too much is bad, I did not sleep this night and I'm going to work the whole morning. *yawns* |
| 05:48.35 | sylvanaar | pb_ee1: i do it for a living and for fun |
| 05:49.34 | pb_ee1 | sylvanaar: Same ;p And when we have great tools as Ace2, it's difficult to stop :) |
| 05:49.44 | pb_ee1 | (sorry for bad English, I'm French actually) |
| 05:53.07 | pastamancer | pb_ee1: haha I know what you mean. I've been putting 20-30 hours of coding a week into Grid |
| 05:54.29 | pb_ee1 | pastamancer: To "upgrade" the code from nothing to Ace2 with ChatLog, I started saturday morning and ended monday at 7 PM xD |
| 05:55.11 | sylvanaar | the early development cycles are some of the most exciting for sure |
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| 06:06.45 | sylvanaar | does aceevent have a way to uniqely identify each event? (i may need to explain more) |
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| 06:12.36 | CIA-17 | 03devla 07TBC * r15216 10AckBar/AckBar/AckBar.lua: |
| 06:12.36 | CIA-17 | AckBar: |
| 06:12.36 | CIA-17 | -Enabled PetBar by Default, should display fine now in/out of combat. |
| 06:15.19 | Mi|es | haha, nice one, local hooksecurefunc = hooksecurefunc or function(alpha, bravo, charlie) |
| 06:17.54 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 06:17.58 | ckknight | solves the job. |
| 06:18.06 | ckknight | sylvanaar, explain more |
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| 06:20.53 | sylvanaar | ckknight: ok say 2 addons register for a single event like UNIT_MANA, then they each fire an event as a result. if a 3rd addon is listening to the other 2 addons events is there a way to know that they are both resulting from 1 original event |
| 06:21.09 | ckknight | they each fire an event? |
| 06:21.24 | ckknight | you mean trigger? |
| 06:21.45 | sylvanaar | ckknight: yes |
| 06:21.54 | ckknight | okay, no, there's no way to know. |
| 06:22.22 | sylvanaar | ckknight: is there a differnce between fire and trigger? |
| 06:22.34 | ckknight | trigger is what I call it, it's more official-like |
| 06:22.43 | ckknight | I just wanted to clarify, really. |
| 06:22.50 | ckknight | to make sure there was no ambiguity |
| 06:22.50 | sylvanaar | ckknight: me too |
| 06:24.27 | Mi|es | woohoo, another patch |
| 06:24.49 | alcaras | since the one a few hours ago? |
| 06:24.50 | sylvanaar | ckknight: in reality the scenerio i describe all happens synchronously correct |
| 06:25.05 | ckknight | it happens all serially. |
| 06:25.15 | Mi|es | neh, I just woke up :P |
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| 06:25.51 | sylvanaar | ckknight: right, thats what i understood |
| 06:25.56 | pastamancer | Mi|es: let me know if they added SecurePartyHeader, I'm going to sleep :) |
| 06:26.12 | ckknight | I can check |
| 06:26.31 | pastamancer | I could just wait until wdn updates |
| 06:28.57 | Mi|es | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.27 | pastamancer | awesome |
| 06:29.33 | Mi|es | indeed |
| 06:29.48 | pastamancer | after I backport that, Grid will be really close to release |
| 06:32.50 | sylvanaar | ckknight: could aceevent support a unique id for each event? basically just a counter/sequence number that you could query for? |
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| 06:43.53 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1542 |
| 06:48.09 | Kalamadi | Well...I've narrowed my kernel panic down to "block devices"... |
| 06:50.30 | Mikma | 'kernel: OMG OMG' |
| 06:53.04 | Kalamadi | Now it's time to disable half of block divices, check for panic, then minimize from there... |
| 06:53.13 | Kalamadi | This wouldn't be so bad if compiles didn't talk half an hour |
| 06:54.03 | haste | try doing the same on a 300MHz |
| 06:54.15 | Mikma | meh |
| 06:54.26 | Kalamadi | If I was doing it on a 300MHz, I'd probably be skilled enough to do it right the first time |
| 06:54.46 | haste | oh, and two months after you finally set up the kernel config, the HD dies |
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| 06:55.14 | Mi|es | heh |
| 06:55.21 | Mikma | "Is there any chance that in the future you could make it so that groups can have any number of buttons in them?" |
| 06:55.27 | Mikma | ummh? what? |
| 06:55.38 | Mikma | Subject: Bartender2 Dynamic resizing of groups |
| 06:56.04 | AKX | Good morning! |
| 06:56.07 | Mikma | i think he's trying to ask me to make it a DAB |
| 06:56.56 | Kalamadi | AKX: 'morning |
| 06:57.03 | Kalamadi | Holy christ it's 3 AM. |
| 06:57.20 | Mikma | <0956> <AKX> Good morning! |
| 06:57.37 | Mikma | i should be in school but i skipped today :P |
| 06:57.47 | AKX | Mikma, I already was in school ;) |
| 06:57.48 | alcaras | mm noob ackbar question: how do i move the bars around? |
| 06:58.01 | Kalamadi | alcaras: Try alt + drag |
| 06:58.07 | alcaras | oh wow, drag the green dot does it |
| 06:58.15 | alcaras | i was trying to right click drag, alt-click drag, all sorts of random stuff |
| 06:58.18 | alcaras | 'cept for the easy, obvious thing |
| 06:59.07 | Kalamadi | Is the "ackbar" name a sort of joke about Admiral Akbar? |
| 07:00.42 | alcaras | not sure! |
| 07:01.11 | alcaras | all i know is it purports to have working action bars with stance switching |
| 07:01.14 | alcaras | which makes me happy |
| 07:01.21 | alcaras | now all i need is a working version of eavesdrop in tbc |
| 07:04.10 | AKX | "I feel much better now. I really do." |
| 07:04.12 | AKX | NP: Prometheus - Samothraki |
| 07:04.24 | Kalamadi | ? |
| 07:04.31 | AKX | Good song :) |
| 07:04.40 | Fritti | Kalamadi: yes :) |
| 07:04.58 | Kalamadi | Fritti: IT'S A TRAP!!! |
| 07:05.08 | Fritti | that's the one, blast him! |
| 07:05.25 | Fritti | anyway, you all do realize that ackbar is 100% non-tested, right? |
| 07:05.42 | Fritti | as in, I use it for my own needs |
| 07:05.46 | Fritti | but not many more people do :) |
| 07:06.18 | alcaras | i shall test it :) |
| 07:06.24 | alcaras | you give me 6 bars, which i prefer over bartender |
| 07:06.26 | alcaras | which took away the 6th bar |
| 07:06.29 | Kalamadi | alcaras: Beware! IT'S A TRAP. |
| 07:06.38 | Mikma | *yawn* |
| 07:06.41 | alcaras | my only wish is that keybindings could just autopick up from standard bars |
| 07:06.51 | Fritti | yes, I planned on fixing that |
| 07:06.52 | Kalamadi | I'm going to beat this dead horse until it comes back to life. |
| 07:06.56 | alcaras | cool, cool |
| 07:07.11 | Fritti | my RL move is finished now though |
| 07:07.16 | Fritti | so I should have some more coding time coming up |
| 07:07.22 | alcaras | error #1: 585 tries to call a table value in aCkBar.lua |
| 07:07.23 | alcaras | cool |
| 07:07.38 | alcaras | what's the formal channel for error reports anyway? flyspray links are scattered all over the wiki but they 404 |
| 07:07.51 | Fritti | it used to be flyspray before my net access got busted, I think it's trac now |
| 07:08.16 | Fritti | see the sidebar link at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AckBar |
| 07:08.57 | alcaras | ok, i think i submitted the bug via trac |
| 07:09.11 | Fritti | hey, cool, devla made ackbar run in TB |
| 07:09.12 | Fritti | TBC* |
| 07:10.33 | alcaras | yeah :) |
| 07:16.25 | Fritti | alcaras: can't find your bug in trac, do you have a link handy/ |
| 07:16.27 | Fritti | ? |
| 07:17.14 | alcaras | i forgot to uh, submit |
| 07:17.18 | alcaras | and just left it at preview o.O |
| 07:17.20 | alcaras | i hit submit now |
| 07:17.36 | alcaras | i think? |
| 07:17.45 | alcaras | http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/93 |
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| 07:22.19 | alcaras | hrm, in squeenix, anyone know how to move the 'find minerals' thing? |
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| 07:23.21 | Kalamadi | I don't think you can. |
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| 07:25.24 | alcaras | Mi|es, does mEnemyCastBar have any configuration options? if so, how i access them? |
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| 07:31.40 | CIA-17 | Unexplorer |
| 07:31.40 | CIA-17 | - Fixed mod permanently disabling itself if button was unchecked and saved |
| 07:31.41 | CIA-17 | - Should no longer blanket the whole map on first show |
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| 07:37.18 | Kalamadi | YES! 42/46 on GDM |
| 07:46.24 | alcaras | <3 devla btw |
| 07:46.33 | alcaras | his update of epoxytbc is hotness |
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| 07:50.41 | omega__ | epoxytbc? |
| 07:51.20 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5471-1-easycopy.html |
| 07:51.20 | alcaras | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5526-EpoxyTBC.html |
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| 08:01.12 | Mikma | http://www.eminenceguild.com/components/com_forum/files/wow_2006-10-05_17-23-46-42_157.jpg |
| 08:01.15 | Mikma | enough buttons?? |
| 08:01.44 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15220 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs: translation commenting because of change from shift->alt |
| 08:02.18 | Mikma | oh neos it's the [Ammo] :( |
| 08:02.50 | [Ammo] | be afraid... |
| 08:03.44 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 08:03.59 | Mikma | why don't you code something useful for change? |
| 08:04.15 | [Ammo] | I coded 2 useful things yesterday |
| 08:04.27 | [Ammo] | why don't you go code anything at all |
| 08:04.36 | Mikma | i don't like coding :D |
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| 08:05.11 | ckknight_ | coding is fun! |
| 08:05.17 | Mikma | coding is for teh noobs!!!11 |
| 08:05.32 | Laric | whining is for the big boys eh? :P |
| 08:05.49 | Mikma | it's for pros |
| 08:05.54 | Laric | ah |
| 08:05.56 | ckknight_ | your mom's a pro |
| 08:06.21 | Mikma | yes she is! |
| 08:06.34 | ckknight_ | prostitution ftw |
| 08:06.57 | Laric | hmm lots of ppl in my raidgroup have gotten tbc keys... blizzard doesnt love me anymore.. I dont get any key :( |
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| 08:07.12 | Mikma | ckknight: well was she any good? |
| 08:07.22 | [Ammo] | Laric, suck up to more people! |
| 08:07.23 | [Ammo] | be a whore |
| 08:07.27 | ckknight | I think we're done, Mikma |
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| 08:08.26 | Mikma | done as "don't talk"? |
| 08:09.12 | Laric | [Ammo] I suck at it :( |
| 08:10.01 | Galencia | [Ammo]: you were wrong btw :p |
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| 08:12.54 | Laric | Galencia did you get the clique plugin to work like you wanted it to yesterday? |
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| 08:13.36 | doktoreas | morning to all |
| 08:14.32 | [Ammo] | was I wrong? |
| 08:15.07 | doktoreas | omega__, good day mate, i have opened your first bug report :D |
| 08:15.17 | [Ammo] | a simple you are wrong, is the same as saying I hate mikma |
| 08:15.24 | omega__ | ohlala |
| 08:15.50 | Galencia | Laric: i didnt actually try :) |
| 08:15.53 | Mikma | :D |
| 08:15.56 | Galencia | [Ammo]: with parserlib ;P |
| 08:16.03 | Mikma | [Ammo]: i have a picture for you.. just a sex |
| 08:16.12 | Galencia | Laric: i changed to how i think it would work.. but forgot to test it |
| 08:16.32 | [Ammo] | there was a few more ipairs -> pairs I forgot probably |
| 08:16.36 | [Ammo] | but it all worked perfectly for me |
| 08:16.39 | [Ammo] | so shrug |
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| 08:16.55 | Mikma | [Ammo]: can i have some cheese with that whine: http://wow.reaktio.net/cheese.jpg |
| 08:17.10 | Kalamadi | :O |
| 08:17.11 | [Ammo] | pff :p |
| 08:17.23 | Galencia | [Ammo]: if only i got away with that excuse at work.. :p |
| 08:17.28 | Mikma | well i should have put " " around it |
| 08:18.15 | omega__ | doktoreas: svn update now |
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| 08:29.07 | Mikma | jackie brown <3 |
| 08:29.11 | Mikma | this some good movie! |
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| 08:31.27 | ckknight_ | anyone have any recent bugs? |
| 08:32.22 | vhaarr | ckknight_: "%s 20s 30c" is the cost durabilityfu reports when I autorepair. |
| 08:32.26 | vhaarr | Is that a recent bug? |
| 08:32.34 | ckknight_ | k |
| 08:32.47 | ckknight_ | by recent bugs, I meant bugs that pertained to me |
| 08:32.53 | ckknight_ | of those, the %s bug would apply. |
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| 08:34.41 | Galencia | i have a itembonuses/aceevent2 bug which is probably something to do with some sort of libary mismatch |
| 08:35.59 | ckknight_ | don't know about itembonuses |
| 08:37.05 | Galencia | hmm i seem to have an Autobar and a AutoBar |
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| 08:37.36 | Galencia | can one be removed from the files site? :) |
| 08:38.43 | Kalamadi | ckknight_: I figured out my panic problem. I removed support for RAM disks, but that's the basis for support for initrd, so I ended up breaking it |
| 08:38.46 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15221 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: fire update of the tooltip when receiving new MTs |
| 08:38.54 | ckknight_ | Kalamadi, hooray? |
| 08:38.58 | vhaarr | Galencia: e-mail cladhaire about it |
| 08:39.08 | Kalamadi | ckknight_: Quite. |
| 08:39.22 | Galencia | Can do. |
| 08:39.42 | Kalamadi | I'm going to continue to trim the kernel until it's exactly what's needed |
| 08:39.49 | Kalamadi | Because I really have nothing else to do XP |
| 08:44.09 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15222 10AbacusLib/Abacus-2.0/Abacus-2.0.lua: .Abacus-2.0 - rearranged localizations |
| 08:44.51 | doktoreas | omega__, nice! Now also oRA2 and BigWing are being updated |
| 08:45.01 | ckknight_ | vhaarr, not fixed quite yet. |
| 08:45.10 | vhaarr | ckknight: alrighty |
| 08:45.12 | ckknight_ | vhaarr, you playing in normal WoW or TBC? |
| 08:45.24 | vhaarr | ckknight: both |
| 08:45.29 | vhaarr | ckknight: this bug is only in TBC |
| 08:45.47 | ckknight_ | okay. |
| 08:45.51 | ckknight_ | found it |
| 08:46.04 | [Ammo] | Ckk, WitchHunt and SCT should work in TBC now :) |
| 08:46.11 | ckknight_ | hoorays |
| 08:47.10 | doktoreas | very nice to have also a working updater for linux |
| 08:47.42 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15223 10oRA2/ (Optional/CoolDown.lua Optional/Resurrection.lua Options.lua): oRA2: alt-drag is the new hipness |
| 08:47.44 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r15224 10Ace2/Ace2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Ace2 - AceConsole-2.0 and AceDebug-2.0 - fixed :Print(...) and :Debug(...) respectively, when providing a format statement as the first argument. |
| 08:48.08 | [Ammo] | is AceHook in the TBC branch up-to-date? |
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| 08:49.28 | ckknight_ | should be, [Ammo] |
| 08:49.39 | ckknight_ | it's more up to date than in trunk, I'd bet |
| 08:49.41 | ckknight_ | least I think so |
| 08:49.47 | ckknight_ | do you have reason to believe that it isn't? |
| 08:50.29 | vhaarr | I think some syncing needs to be done |
| 08:51.06 | ckknight_ | they should be synced now |
| 08:51.21 | ckknight_ | once again, do you have reason to believe that it isn't? |
| 08:51.32 | [Ammo] | I had some issues |
| 08:51.38 | vhaarr | I just seem to remember you checking in a fix only in trunk |
| 08:51.39 | [Ammo] | using the trunk AceHook 2.1 and the TBC one in TBC |
| 08:51.43 | vhaarr | http://www.wowace.com/trac/log/trunk/Ace2 |
| 08:51.46 | vhaarr | http://www.wowace.com/trac/log/branches/Ace2/TBC/Ace2 |
| 08:52.01 | [Ammo] | ended up deleting the TBC one |
| 08:52.04 | [Ammo] | and things worked again |
| 08:52.11 | [Ammo] | so that's why I had reason to believe |
| 08:52.17 | ckknight_ | what error did you get? |
| 08:52.25 | [Ammo] | no error |
| 08:52.32 | [Ammo] | but Ace just didn't work |
| 08:52.40 | ckknight_ | how did it not work? |
| 08:52.48 | [Ammo] | well, no addons loaded |
| 08:52.59 | [Ammo] | no bartender, no fubar, no squeenix, no nothing |
| 08:53.01 | [Ammo] | bare UI |
| 08:53.12 | [Ammo] | while warmup said the files were loaded |
| 08:53.15 | [Ammo] | so I was baffled |
| 08:53.24 | [Ammo] | and deleted all but one AceHook |
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| 08:53.30 | [Ammo] | and then it owrked |
| 08:53.36 | ckknight_ | well, I can't help until you give me an error |
| 08:53.37 | [Ammo] | this was a few days ago though |
| 08:53.38 | ckknight_ | and you know that. |
| 08:53.40 | [Ammo] | yeah I know |
| 08:53.46 | [Ammo] | just letting you know |
| 08:54.03 | ckknight_ | they should be synced now |
| 08:54.05 | [Ammo] | ok |
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| 08:58.06 | weab | so uh. looking at the bc Fonts.xml |
| 08:58.16 | weab | the raid class colors have changed significantly |
| 08:58.16 | ckknight_ | hrm? |
| 08:58.20 | ckknight_ | oh? |
| 08:58.28 | ckknight_ | what's changed? |
| 08:58.38 | weab | everything seems jumbled around to be the wrong colors. unless i'm converting them to hex wrong |
| 08:58.43 | weab | i guess i can check the diff |
| 08:58.58 | abbat_w | Heh |
| 08:59.19 | ckknight_ | what's the global's name? |
| 08:59.22 | abbat_w | Today i fix some plugins by getting AceHook from BigWigs and copy dir to other plugins |
| 08:59.32 | weab | no. i guess i'm wrong. |
| 08:59.44 | weab | RAID_CLASS_COLORS |
| 09:00.00 | Galencia | oh hey, whats the new shaman colour? |
| 09:00.07 | Galencia | i forgot to find that out |
| 09:00.14 | weab | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:00.25 | Galencia | which is? :) |
| 09:00.30 | weab | hell if i know |
| 09:00.35 | weab | apparently i converted them all to hex wrong |
| 09:01.47 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:01.49 | ckknight | got the colors |
| 09:01.57 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.05 | ckknight | type that in, you'll see it nicely |
| 09:02.14 | ckknight | everything's the same except Shaman |
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| 09:02.22 | ckknight | which is like a teal color |
| 09:02.25 | ckknight | darker than Mage's |
| 09:02.35 | ckknight | and greener |
| 09:05.10 | omega__ | doktoreas: the problem with addons not updating I think I have traced to the fact that latest.txt (the file I check to find the newest version) is written before teh zip-file is there |
| 09:05.19 | omega__ | so if someone updates in that window, it will fail |
| 09:05.26 | omega__ | but running it again usually fixes it |
| 09:05.37 | doktoreas | yeah, no no problem |
| 09:05.42 | doktoreas | *now |
| 09:06.49 | vhaarr | ckknight: Kharazan is 70-70, for touristlib |
| 09:07.03 | ckknight | feel free to update it :-P |
| 09:07.53 | vhaarr | ckknight: well, what numbers to Tourist report? The meeting stone numbers or the actual required level? |
| 09:07.59 | vhaarr | you can enter it as level 68 |
| 09:08.03 | vhaarr | but the stone says 70-70 |
| 09:08.09 | ckknight | the level the meetingstone says |
| 09:09.42 | Galencia | wow, the bbc are so, they're only just today reporting the delay of TBC |
| 09:09.46 | Galencia | s/so/slow/ |
| 09:10.15 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15225 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: TouristLib: Karazhan is 70-70. |
| 09:10.30 | vhaarr | tested durabilityfu and the print is correct now |
| 09:10.32 | vhaarr | thanks |
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| 09:11.11 | abbat_w | what about moneyfu? |
| 09:11.34 | vhaarr | what about it? |
| 09:12.31 | abbat_w | tonight looks like broken |
| 09:12.44 | vhaarr | works fine for me |
| 09:13.04 | abbat_w | hmmm... |
| 09:13.15 | doktoreas | omega__, i am in contact with a friend of mine for a GUI ;) |
| 09:13.38 | abbat_w | tonight i update alla my mods with WUA (deletebeforeupdate == true) and have an error with AceHook in some mods |
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| 09:14.08 | abbat_w | Copy dir with AceHook from BigWigs to affected addons fix problem but only moneyfu won't work |
| 09:14.40 | abbat_w | Also i setup ModMenuToFu - this is very nice addon |
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| 09:14.56 | vhaarr | Report it to the WAU author then. |
| 09:14.58 | omega__ | doktoreas: coolio, its also on my todo list :) |
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| 09:15.00 | vhaarr | Everything works fine. |
| 09:15.26 | omega__ | its nothing WAU can do, becuase the problem lies in how svn:external works |
| 09:15.45 | omega__ | idealy if you update an external, that would trigger a rebuild of all modules that has it as an external |
| 09:15.47 | Galencia | vhaarr: "everything works fine" is a bad cover you need to stop using |
| 09:15.54 | Galencia | i got the same from ammo yesterday when he had caused a bug in parserlib |
| 09:15.58 | vhaarr | It's not a cover at all. |
| 09:16.00 | ckknight_ | blah |
| 09:16.14 | Galencia | he tried to blame it on my methods of updating, but it was a genuine bug |
| 09:16.30 | abbat_w | And guys it's ok if mods have different revision of AceHook (for example) but same version? |
| 09:17.28 | abbat_w | Version is 2.1 but different size and some functions missed/renamed |
| 09:17.45 | omega__ | abbat_w: no, but its a concequence of using the zip-files |
| 09:18.04 | Galencia | if you're going to use WUA you should go with standalone libraries |
| 09:18.18 | omega__ | abbat_w: because when someone updates AceHook-2.1, all addons need to be regenerated archives of, which only happens when someone commits something to that addon again |
| 09:18.45 | abbat_w | Ok, if i use tortoise i can't get this? |
| 09:18.49 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 09:19.07 | [Ammo] | an SVN client does not have these problems since the correct new versions get downloaded |
| 09:19.27 | Galencia | but you will get clad beating you over the head with a blunt spoon. |
| 09:19.38 | Galencia | use WUA and standalone libraries, it has the same effect |
| 09:20.05 | abbat_w | Galencia, should i remove "libs" dir from all my addons? |
| 09:20.11 | Galencia | yes |
| 09:20.24 | abbat_w | Oh |
| 09:20.31 | Galencia | easier way is to just update without externals all your addons |
| 09:20.38 | Galencia | it will do ti for you if you have "delete first" turned on |
| 09:20.58 | abbat_w | sure. turned on now ;) |
| 09:21.07 | abbat_w | Ok, thanks |
| 09:21.12 | Galencia | but i still get one acehook error with that method.. it could be a genuine bug, though. |
| 09:22.14 | abbat_w | Which dir on /files/ contain right version of standalone libs? |
| 09:22.26 | Galencia | !!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 09:22.34 | Galencia | has empty folders, but will trigger WUA to update them for you |
| 09:24.10 | Galencia | http://ace.pastey.net/1796 is my aceevent/itembonuses error if anyone feels like looking at it |
| 09:24.59 | [Ammo] | that's not an aceevent error |
| 09:25.11 | Galencia | i didnt say it was. |
| 09:25.18 | [Ammo] | it's a problem in itembonsesfu |
| 09:25.27 | [Ammo] | my guess it has to do with AceDB not being mixed in |
| 09:25.28 | [Ammo] | or something |
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| 09:25.44 | Galencia | in which case |
| 09:26.40 | [Ammo] | hmm it is |
| 09:27.10 | ckknight | yea, I know the issue |
| 09:27.27 | ckknight | ItemBonusesFu has :UpdateData declared when it should have :OnDataUpdate declared instead. |
| 09:27.35 | [Ammo] | aha |
| 09:27.55 | Galencia | ta-da! |
| 09:27.59 | ckknight | possibly. |
| 09:28.43 | Galencia | you can forgive my assumption when i read the changelog and the last line i see is this: |
| 09:28.47 | Galencia | nevcairiel | 2006-10-21 07:25:41 -0400 (Sat, 21 Oct 2006) | 1 line |
| 09:28.47 | Galencia | FuBar_ItemBonusesFu: AceHook-2.1 and AceLocale-2.2 |
| 09:29.24 | weab_ | k this is fucked up |
| 09:29.37 | Kalamadi | How would one change the hostname of a linux system after installation? |
| 09:29.51 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:29.54 | weab | the colors for the raid window i thought they changed were from the alpha framexml |
| 09:29.55 | ckknight | change /etc/hostname |
| 09:30.00 | Kalamadi | kk, thanks. |
| 09:30.02 | weab | and they're all completely fucked up and different |
| 09:31.29 | abbat_w | Galencia, yesterday you told about 'how-to update addons with WUA' page. Are you post it or not? If yes, can you give me url please i think i should read it |
| 09:31.53 | Galencia | i need to write it first. |
| 09:32.16 | sylvanaar | lol, when i read this chat ir sorta seems like yesterday still |
| 09:32.26 | [Ammo] | no comment :) |
| 09:32.29 | Galencia | hehe |
| 09:33.02 | Galencia | well sadly, denying the existance of problems doesnt make them go away |
| 09:33.09 | abbat_w | Woot! |
| 09:33.10 | abbat_w | http://www.purepleasure.de/users/pleasure/msg.jpg |
| 09:33.22 | abbat_w | I have same error after update ORA2 ;) |
| 09:34.02 | Galencia | you are using standalone libraries now? |
| 09:34.34 | abbat_w | No. I use it after i back to home from work |
| 09:34.38 | Galencia | ah ok |
| 09:34.58 | weab | so to answer that question |
| 09:35.04 | weab | after i finally figured out this stupid problem |
| 09:35.11 | weab | shm is a teal color in the raid window |
| 09:35.18 | weab | aqua |
| 09:35.20 | weab | or something |
| 09:35.31 | Galencia | abbat_w: well, that could be a ora problem, but probably isnt, youd have to fix your libraries to really know |
| 09:35.42 | weab | #00DBBA |
| 09:35.49 | abbat_w | No, it's not ora |
| 09:35.57 | abbat_w | ora2 work wine |
| 09:36.11 | omega__ | abbat_w: I get the same error with RangeRecolor |
| 09:36.16 | omega__ | but havent found out why yet :p |
| 09:36.26 | omega__ | it also isnt caught by Buggrabber/BugSack |
| 09:36.37 | Galencia | dodgy libraries, most likely |
| 09:37.30 | abbat_w | It's because we use WAU incorrect ;) |
| 09:39.19 | abbat_w | Heh |
| 09:39.21 | abbat_w | --- |
| 09:39.21 | abbat_w | Topic: AceHook2.1 destroys Interface :( (Read 1439 times) |
| 09:39.23 | abbat_w | --- |
| 09:39.24 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:39.28 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r15226 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (4 files): FuBar_RegenFu: Improved layout and presentation of data on the tooltip, menu layout, updated toc and changelog |
| 09:40.07 | Galencia | i read that topic, and loled irl |
| 09:41.57 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r15227 10FuBar_RegenFu/: FuBar_RegenFu: ^.^ No Comment |
| 09:45.46 | sylvanaar | could aceevent support a unique id for each event? basically just a counter/sequence number that you could query for? |
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| 09:46.54 | Galencia | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons |
| 09:47.09 | Galencia | could someone take a look at that and give some feedback? point out inaccuracies untruths etc |
| 09:47.19 | Galencia | its unfinished, but id like to know im in the right direction |
| 09:48.00 | sylvanaar | who the intended reader |
| 09:48.18 | Galencia | someone who likes to keep their addons up to date, but doesnt really get how ace2 works :) |
| 09:48.18 | sylvanaar | who is* |
| 09:48.59 | Galencia | someone who may be able to contribute to bug reporting/feedback, but not neccessarily a developer |
| 09:49.02 | sylvanaar | #1 clarify if they should use the svn or zips/wau and why |
| 09:49.10 | alcaras | Galencia: clarify if you're talking about tbc beta or ace2 beta |
| 09:49.28 | ckknight | Galencia, beta makes me think TBC |
| 09:49.30 | Galencia | sylvanaar: wua is the next section i will write :) |
| 09:49.32 | Galencia | good point |
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| 09:51.41 | Galencia | added a clarification on that |
| 09:53.13 | sylvanaar | also i think that calling it beta code is a bit of a promotion - its development level code pre-alpha even |
| 09:53.35 | sylvanaar | though not all of it is |
| 09:53.44 | Galencia | well the site refers to zips as beta, so, i'll stick with that for consistancy |
| 09:54.00 | evl | Anyone running !!Standalone with success? :) |
| 09:54.06 | Galencia | yes, i am |
| 09:54.07 | sylvanaar | good reasoning |
| 10:00.26 | ckknight | I'd call it development-level code |
| 10:03.30 | Galencia | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons |
| 10:03.31 | ckknight | cause, FuBar's not a beta |
| 10:03.32 | Galencia | finished-ish version |
| 10:03.35 | ckknight | it's in release |
| 10:03.47 | ckknight | but from SVN, you're using development-level code |
| 10:03.50 | ckknight | not beta code |
| 10:03.57 | Galencia | ckknight: but technically people are supposed to get "release" versions from release sites :) |
| 10:04.09 | ckknight | but the SVN doesn't have beta code. |
| 10:04.14 | ckknight | some of it may be beta |
| 10:04.16 | ckknight | not all of it |
| 10:04.35 | Galencia | well, im just echoing the tone used in the rest of the site, dont blame me :) |
| 10:04.49 | abbat_w | Can anyone explain me mechanics of loading libraries. If i have dir !!!StandAlone and oRA2 from example. Both of them have AceHook-2.1 for example. Which one will be load, from !!!StandAlone or from oRA2? |
| 10:05.04 | ckknight | Galencia, the rest of the site should probably be changed |
| 10:05.20 | Galencia | well if it is, i'll be sure to follow suit :) |
| 10:05.38 | abbat_w | WoW search first mod dir then all Addons dir or just search aplhabetically? |
| 10:05.55 | Galencia | as i understand it, it'll load the first one it finds |
| 10:05.59 | Galencia | which should be alphabetical |
| 10:06.48 | abbat_w | Nice. Thats mean what doesn't need to remove "libs" dir from all aced mods manually |
| 10:07.09 | abbat_w | !!!<name> should be first place to look ;) |
| 10:07.16 | Galencia | in theory |
| 10:07.23 | Galencia | but WUA with delete-first enabled will delete all your libs anyway :) |
| 10:11.03 | omega__ | when you enable no-ext |
| 10:13.12 | sylvanaar | did anything come of that issue with WAU and others trying to update branched mods which did not exist on the trunk |
| 10:13.33 | Galencia | any comments on that url? will it be useful to anyone? |
| 10:14.40 | Fritti | "[12:06] <Galencia> which should be alphabetical" -> no, not always |
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| 10:14.57 | Fritti | there's no set load order although for ~80% of the users it is alphabetical |
| 10:15.07 | sylvanaar | looks great, id move the stuff in comments to the top and bullet it |
| 10:15.24 | abbat_w | Fritti, but i know what mods are load alpabetical |
| 10:15.35 | Galencia | Fritti: fair enough |
| 10:15.51 | abbat_w | This is main reason to make folders like !!!<name> coz this mod be loaded first |
| 10:16.01 | Fritti | abbat_w: on your system that works |
| 10:16.04 | Fritti | which is nice |
| 10:16.10 | Fritti | on mac/linux/some windows it doesn't work |
| 10:16.15 | abbat_w | Hmm... |
| 10:16.19 | Fritti | but it doesn't hurt either, so people still name them !!!<name> |
| 10:16.35 | vhaarr | Fritti: When I requested the error counter in BugSack, I don't think you understood quite what I meant; instead of actually adding a new line for every error, you simply have a counter flag on the error object (if there is one, if not create it), and display that alongside the error. |
| 10:16.36 | abbat_w | I think name '!!!StandaloneLibs' selected with this reason |
| 10:16.40 | vhaarr | Fritti: Does that make sense? |
| 10:16.56 | Fritti | vhaarr: I could do that. |
| 10:17.09 | Fritti | I'm used to logs not changing though |
| 10:17.10 | vhaarr | Fritti: That would be excellent. |
| 10:17.11 | Galencia | abbat_w: i think what hes trying to say is that they load in whatever order the operating system gives the folders in |
| 10:17.15 | Fritti | but I guess these aren't logs :) |
| 10:17.21 | Galencia | usually that is aplhabetical, but you cant assume that and rely on it |
| 10:17.31 | Fritti | Galencia: yes, much better said, thank you |
| 10:17.38 | abbat_w | Ah, ok |
| 10:18.16 | Fritti | vhaarr: hmm but what do I do wrt notifying every X seconds then? |
| 10:18.28 | Galencia | i think you're rigth about the title of my page being confusing too |
| 10:18.34 | Galencia | suggestions for a better title? |
| 10:18.34 | Fritti | I thought it'd be useful to be notified when an error keeps repearting |
| 10:18.39 | vhaarr | Fritti: You just sound the alert, you don't add a new entry. |
| 10:18.50 | vhaarr | Fritti: And optionally print it to the chat frame. |
| 10:18.57 | Fritti | depending on settings, ok |
| 10:19.03 | Fritti | so I'd keep that functionality |
| 10:19.04 | vhaarr | But don't add a new entry to the sack. |
| 10:19.09 | Fritti | k |
| 10:19.16 | vhaarr | Fritti: As long as one error has occured in this session before, just increment it. |
| 10:19.19 | vhaarr | IMO |
| 10:19.27 | Fritti | I think that's more useful |
| 10:19.30 | Fritti | does it work in TBC? |
| 10:19.32 | Fritti | anyone tested it? |
| 10:19.36 | vhaarr | yes it works |
| 10:19.39 | Fritti | cool |
| 10:19.40 | vhaarr | I fixed it |
| 10:19.43 | Fritti | thanks |
| 10:19.46 | vhaarr | np |
| 10:19.54 | Fritti | lots of changes? |
| 10:20.02 | vhaarr | nope |
| 10:20.07 | vhaarr | one string.gmatch or something |
| 10:20.21 | Galencia | how do you do bullets in wikicode? |
| 10:20.35 | Fritti | * foo1 * foo2 I think |
| 10:20.47 | Galencia | mmmk |
| 10:21.27 | vhaarr | Fritti: Err, that is to say, I had fixed it but ckk checked in a fix before me, so technically he fixed it :P |
| 10:21.35 | Fritti | heh :) |
| 10:21.47 | Fritti | I need a UI designer. I suck at designing that error frame |
| 10:21.52 | Fritti | it's ugly |
| 10:21.54 | vhaarr | it's fine |
| 10:22.09 | Fritti | wtb AceGUI2 |
| 10:22.17 | Galencia | sylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons - is that what you had in mind? |
| 10:24.44 | sbu | 'morning |
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| 10:26.38 | Kalamadi | g'morning. |
| 10:27.25 | sylvanaar | Galencia: almost - im trying to think of how to phrase it |
| 10:29.15 | sylvanaar | Galencia: the 3rd bullet is what i was thinking for the top section |
| 10:29.28 | Galencia | oki |
| 10:29.28 | Galencia | feel free to rejig |
| 10:29.29 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.26 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r15228 10FuBar_MoneyFu/FuBar_MoneyFu.toc: |
| 10:32.26 | CIA-17 | FuBar_MoneyFu: |
| 10:32.26 | CIA-17 | - Fix path to AceLocale-2.2 in TOC. |
| 10:32.28 | sylvanaar | Galencia: a decision tree that can lead each person to read more about the methods you detail later |
| 10:33.07 | sylvanaar | Galencia: with directions more than explainations |
| 10:33.48 | sylvanaar | Galencia: does that make sense? |
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| 10:35.47 | omega__ | how hard is it to convert a given addon to LoadOnDemand only for certain classes? |
| 10:36.27 | sylvanaar | Galencia: you managed to type that all up pretty quick, would have taken me twice as long to make 1/2 as much sense |
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| 10:36.52 | sylvanaar | omega__: ^.^ |
| 10:37.16 | sylvanaar | omega__: you need a stub |
| 10:37.35 | sbu | SupplyAndDemand!? |
| 10:38.12 | Galencia | sylvanaar: i think i get what you mean, but im not sure how to go about it :) |
| 10:39.59 | omega__ | ok, so basicly its all about adding SupplyAndDemand to deps and adding .toc-lines? |
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| 10:41.44 | sylvanaar | omega__: i dont know if s&d does what you want or not to be honest |
| 10:41.50 | Greywind | yes it does |
| 10:41.53 | Greywind | thats what i use |
| 10:42.02 | omega__ | I want GotWood only to load when I'm playing my shaman |
| 10:42.42 | Gngsk | so disable it on all but that toon :P |
| 10:42.55 | omega__ | TooMuchWork(tm) |
| 10:43.02 | Gngsk | eh? |
| 10:43.08 | omega__ | its alot more sensible to make it only load on shamans :p |
| 10:43.09 | Gngsk | AllToons (disable) |
| 10:43.14 | Gngsk | ShamanToon (enable) |
| 10:43.23 | omega__ | repeat for n servers |
| 10:43.42 | Gngsk | if you have more than one shaman on more than one server, then you lose |
| 10:45.17 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r15229 10ManaPerc/ (Libs/ ManaPerc.lua ManaPerc.toc): |
| 10:45.17 | CIA-17 | ManaPerc: |
| 10:45.17 | CIA-17 | - Updated to AceHook-2.1 |
| 10:45.19 | Greywind | omega__: add this to the .toc http://ace.pastey.net/1822 |
| 10:45.42 | sylvanaar | ah ok |
| 10:45.44 | omega__ | Greywind: cool |
| 10:46.08 | Greywind | i also have all my raid addons only to load in raids, I love it :) |
| 10:46.13 | sylvanaar | it does have that support - you use a tag in your toc file yeah |
| 10:46.56 | Greywind | oh woot I just setup my own svn server...don't ask me why :P |
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| 10:49.54 | sylvanaar | thats a neat feature - i would never have known about it otherwise - modules.lua has all the tags |
| 10:52.32 | sylvanaar | Greywind: do you have any problems with game freezes when you join a raid? or log on and off while in one? does it have any noticable difference when not in raid? |
| 10:52.55 | Greywind | nope, just did it to test it out :P |
| 10:53.38 | Mikma | lol nice run |
| 10:53.48 | Mikma | i won a piccolo and truefaith vestments pattern |
| 10:54.11 | Gngsk | two of the most annoying items in the game! |
| 10:54.22 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r15230 10FuBar_NetStatsFu/ (FuBar_NetStatsFu.toc Libs/ NetStatsFu.lua): |
| 10:54.22 | CIA-17 | FuBar_NetStatsFu: |
| 10:54.22 | CIA-17 | - Localized a few things. |
| 10:54.35 | sylvanaar | my engi priest has 26 trinkets in his bag = including that one. trinkets are evil |
| 10:55.07 | Greywind | take a look at this http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Supply_and_Demand |
| 10:55.21 | Greywind | I have all my addons setup using S&D |
| 10:55.31 | omega__ | why isnt it linked from the Addons list page? |
| 10:55.32 | Galencia | hmm my article lacks links |
| 10:55.40 | sylvanaar | Greywind: thats neat - its not linked from addons yeah |
| 10:55.43 | Greywind | omega__: I dont know |
| 10:55.47 | omega__ | or is it just me that is retarded in not finding it? |
| 10:55.49 | Greywind | I just noticed that |
| 10:55.54 | Greywind | weird |
| 10:55.59 | omega__ | is the addons-list autogenerated? |
| 10:56.12 | omega__ | and if so, could it be made to mark those that are only "stubs/unclaimed"? |
| 10:56.44 | Greywind | doh I'm stupid |
| 10:56.48 | sylvanaar | omega__: i looked for it just a minute ago |
| 10:56.48 | Greywind | its on the next page |
| 10:56.52 | Greywind | :P |
| 10:57.03 | Greywind | click the little next 200 link >.< |
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| 10:57.07 | omega__ | aha |
| 10:57.13 | omega__ | there is 2 pages |
| 10:57.42 | omega__ | thats silly really :p |
| 10:57.49 | omega__ | its not like it would be too large for one page |
| 10:58.00 | sylvanaar | lol |
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| 10:59.34 | Greywind | gah my dog just scared the shit out of me, somehow she got under my bed and she must have just woken up and licked my leg lol |
| 10:59.34 | sylvanaar | "There are 169 articles in this category." |
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| 10:59.50 | sylvanaar | "next 200) |
| 10:59.50 | sylvanaar | Retrieved from "http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addons" |
| 10:59.56 | sylvanaar | oops |
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| 11:00.19 | sylvanaar | "next 200) |
| 11:00.19 | sylvanaar | Retrieved from "http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addons" |
| 11:00.21 | sylvanaar | meh |
| 11:01.44 | sylvanaar | anyways it says t69 addons - but the link at the bottom says, 'next 200' |
| 11:02.17 | Greywind | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addons there, added a note to remind us stupid people :P |
| 11:03.57 | omega__ | sylvanaar: 31 + 169 = 200 (sub categories and pages) |
| 11:05.16 | Greywind | good lord i just realized how many fubar plugins there are...daamn hehe |
| 11:05.34 | Greywind | and I dont even know what half of em do :P |
| 11:07.20 | Galencia | added some links to http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons |
| 11:07.45 | Galencia | any further feedback/suggestions on a new tital/suggestions where to link it from/what category to put it in apprecaited |
| 11:07.50 | Galencia | title* |
| 11:08.56 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r15231 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarItemList.lua Locale-enUS.lua Locale-koKR.lua): |
| 11:08.56 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 11:08.56 | CIA-17 | -Korean tx to Sayclub |
| 11:08.56 | CIA-17 | -Added beginnings of a Quest Item category. |
| 11:09.42 | Galencia | comments on the doc's accuracy from people who know what they're talking about would be appreciated too |
| 11:12.16 | Greywind | looks pretty good but I'm too tired to really digest it atm :P, good job on writing it though |
| 11:12.33 | Greywind | now i can just point n00bs to that and ignore them :D |
| 11:12.40 | Galencia | yes, that was the intention |
| 11:12.52 | Galencia | :) |
| 11:15.04 | sylvanaar | Galencia: i think that its great, you will get alot of feedback if you make a forum post too |
| 11:15.06 | Galencia | and most noobs will appreciate being pointed to a resource, rather than being yelledd at |
| 11:15.20 | Galencia | and those that dont, well, arent worth trying to educate |
| 11:15.22 | Galencia | sylvanaar: good idea |
| 11:16.15 | sylvanaar | noob filter |
| 11:16.24 | abbat_w | Galencia :-* |
| 11:17.34 | sylvanaar | im still feeling stupid from the whole page 2 thing, so i should be one to talk |
| 11:17.43 | omega__ | yeah, me too |
| 11:17.53 | Galencia | hehe |
| 11:18.05 | omega__ | didnt even notice it ended with S |
| 11:18.12 | omega__ | missing the last part of the alphabet |
| 11:18.13 | Galencia | well a couple of days ago i had no idea how this all wored, and struggled to find the information to fix it myself |
| 11:18.19 | Fritti | Galencia: maybe you should bullet point #3 on top |
| 11:18.21 | Galencia | now i found that information i felt i shoudl share it instead of complaining |
| 11:18.24 | Fritti | the preferred method |
| 11:18.40 | Fritti | especially if you point people to that to get the preferred method :) |
| 11:18.56 | sylvanaar | Galencia: bullet 3 ftw - that was my favorite too |
| 11:19.23 | Galencia | will do |
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| 11:20.42 | sylvanaar | that category page should just be a category page and that would solve all the confusion |
| 11:21.03 | Galencia | i moved it to point 2, since that fit the flow better |
| 11:21.04 | Fritti | I don't know if it's all factually correct but it seems pretty clear to me. should be a help for people. |
| 11:21.22 | Galencia | well i posted on the forums, we'll see what happens :) |
| 11:21.33 | Galencia | if it helps one person it'll have been worth it. :p |
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| 11:22.43 | Laric | hmm is tofu gone? |
| 11:24.14 | Laric | found it.. just had to recheckout |
| 11:25.55 | [Ammo] | find the rapist: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/katygyo/what%20the%20funke/IMG_0120.jpg |
| 11:27.54 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r15232 10AutoBar/libs/: |
| 11:27.54 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 11:27.54 | CIA-17 | -Fix property for pt misc |
| 11:28.11 | Laric | nice one ammo |
| 11:28.12 | sylvanaar | Galencia: i added one line to warn them they'll lose sct_event_config.lua with WAU |
| 11:28.24 | Galencia | oki doki |
| 11:28.29 | Laric | wau? |
| 11:28.35 | pb_ee1 | WinAceUpdater |
| 11:28.39 | Laric | ah |
| 11:28.57 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater |
| 11:29.34 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15233 10BigWigs/ (50 files in 6 dirs): BigWigs: Removed *** from zhTW. |
| 11:29.41 | [Ammo] | 50 files hehe |
| 11:29.49 | haste | ouch |
| 11:30.10 | Galencia | makes you wonder how much time they spent putting the *** in |
| 11:30.15 | Mikma | whoooot? |
| 11:30.19 | Mikma | vhaarr: what's that? |
| 11:30.33 | Mikma | was there double stars? |
| 11:30.39 | vhaarr | Mikma: yeah |
| 11:30.39 | [Ammo] | well vhaarr removed them with one regexp :p |
| 11:30.40 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 11:30.41 | Galencia | ****** Yes ****** |
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| 11:31.06 | Galencia | thats a lot of stars |
| 11:31.14 | Mikma | or was it *** *** Yes *** *** |
| 11:31.27 | [Ammo] | they put the *** in the translations |
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| 11:31.43 | [Ammo] | so if it would announce in RW it would be *** *** ZOMG BEAR *** *** |
| 11:32.18 | Mikma | heh |
| 11:32.20 | Fritti | what's with the page 2? |
| 11:32.21 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15234 10BigWigs/BWL/Ebonroc.lua: BigWigs: Ebonroc: Fix edge case not matched by the regexp. |
| 11:32.38 | sylvanaar | we didnt notice there was one |
| 11:32.47 | sylvanaar | on the addons page |
| 11:33.44 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addons |
| 11:33.56 | Fritti | ah |
| 11:34.02 | Fritti | I didn't either :) |
| 11:34.10 | Greywind | think they will notice my messege at the top :P http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bartender2_DruidBar |
| 11:34.44 | Greywind | people were complaining they didnt know most of my addons were LoD, no excuse now :D |
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| 11:35.15 | sylvanaar | Greywind: no, they wont read in the boc |
| 11:35.25 | sylvanaar | Greywind: *box |
| 11:36.18 | Mikma | Greywind: like they ever actually READ the docs |
| 11:36.25 | sylvanaar | Greywind: right |
| 11:36.30 | Greywind | hey I can try |
| 11:36.33 | Greywind | :P |
| 11:36.37 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 11:36.51 | Greywind | at least now i can just paste that link when they pm me :P |
| 11:38.37 | sylvanaar | hehe |
| 11:40.50 | Mikma | who made closetgnome? |
| 11:41.04 | [Ammo] | rule 1 of closetgnome |
| 11:41.10 | [Ammo] | you shall not talk about closetgnome |
| 11:41.19 | vhaarr | It's fine to talk about it on IRC :) |
| 11:41.23 | vhaarr | Mikma: I did. |
| 11:41.38 | Galencia | i just isntalled it |
| 11:41.43 | Galencia | i shall check it out this fine evening |
| 11:41.55 | Mikma | vhaarr: my wife installed it and want's to know is there any way of making it to remember the itemlocations in bags and swap the gear back to it's original location? |
| 11:42.03 | Greywind | err damn windows, anyone know offhand the command for deleting all the .svn folders in my addon folder |
| 11:42.05 | Greywind | ? |
| 11:42.15 | vhaarr | Mikma: No, there's not. Feel free to help me implement that. |
| 11:42.54 | vhaarr | Greywind: Install cygwin and do find . -name .svn -exec rm -rf '{}' ';' |
| 11:43.00 | vhaarr | :P |
| 11:43.06 | Galencia | you dont need cygwin for that |
| 11:43.08 | Galencia | you evil evil man |
| 11:43.48 | Galencia | but yes, unix find is by far the easiest way of doing that |
| 11:43.58 | Greywind | I know, i miss it |
| 11:44.07 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r15235 10AutoBar/libs/: |
| 11:44.07 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 11:44.07 | CIA-17 | -For gods sake update the libs folder |
| 11:44.18 | Galencia | (there is a package, somewhere(called unixutils), which has native win32 exes of popular unix utilities) |
| 11:44.23 | Greywind | windows is enemic in the command line |
| 11:44.49 | Galencia | what you want probably is possible with some batch, but damn it'll be uglier than that line vhaarr posted |
| 11:45.00 | omega__ | vhaarr: is there any way to edit a itemset with closetgnome? |
| 11:45.01 | [Ammo] | Mikma: go help vhaarr with that! googogo code something useful! |
| 11:45.11 | [Ammo] | omega__: wear it, click add, type same name |
| 11:45.13 | [Ammo] | and it updates it |
| 11:45.16 | omega__ | k |
| 11:45.17 | Mikma | [Ammo]: i just can't do it captain! i don't have the power |
| 11:45.25 | [Ammo] | do it |
| 11:45.27 | Galencia | that feature is somewhat redundant |
| 11:45.44 | Galencia | if you have a mod like onebag, and some sort of bag sorting mod |
| 11:45.52 | Galencia | but thats a big if |
| 11:45.52 | omega__ | next q: can the unequip weapons plugin get a different "setting" for when in raid/party? |
| 11:46.07 | omega__ | cause when I'm in raid, I would usually like it to take 'em of as soon as I get aggro really :p |
| 11:47.52 | sbu | mhpf |
| 11:47.56 | sbu | autobar checkout broken? |
| 11:48.47 | sbu | ah, working again... wtf |
| 11:48.58 | Galencia | it was just checked in about 2 minutes ago |
| 11:49.02 | Galencia | svn syncing issues no doubt |
| 11:49.23 | sbu | mh yep |
| 11:49.37 | sbu | problem w/ externals (no such revision etc.) |
| 11:50.43 | Galencia | the no such revision thing is because there are svn mirriors |
| 11:50.50 | Galencia | which sometimes take a little time to sync with each other |
| 11:53.31 | sbu | mh i c |
| 11:53.45 | sbu | dev. is also affected? :p |
| 11:55.40 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r15236 10AutoBar/libs/: |
| 11:55.40 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 11:55.40 | CIA-17 | -foad |
| 11:55.59 | Galencia | sbu: no clue. |
| 11:57.10 | phyber | dev shouldn't be. |
| 11:58.19 | sbu | but it is : |
| 11:58.33 | phyber | why is it? |
| 11:58.47 | phyber | everybodies externals point to http://svn.wowace.com/wibble/mirrors/whatever |
| 11:59.01 | phyber | not dev ;) |
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| 12:06.56 | sylvanaar | Greywind: dir /ah /s /b |
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| 12:12.22 | sylvanaar | phyber: because svn is read only |
| 12:13.18 | sylvanaar | phyber: and does not require authentication |
| 12:14.03 | phyber | I don't know which question you're answering there :) |
| 12:14.20 | sylvanaar | phyber: the last 3 lines you typed |
| 12:14.47 | phyber | ah, that wasn't a question. except for the part that is. |
| 12:15.02 | phyber | I was asking sbu why he thinks dev was screwed because of externals, and then pointed out externals come from svn. |
| 12:15.05 | phyber | :) |
| 12:15.15 | sylvanaar | phyber: yeah, haha |
| 12:15.29 | omega__ | haha |
| 12:15.33 | phyber | retarded formatting of answers = woohoo |
| 12:15.53 | [Ammo] | well there is a syncing problem atm with the mirrors |
| 12:15.57 | [Ammo] | I can't update a thing am |
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| 12:27.00 | Mikma | sylvanaar: care to explain that page2? |
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| 12:30.36 | [Ammo] | slowass syncing grr |
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| 12:31.43 | [Ammo] | half of the svn mirrors don't have 15237 yet |
| 12:31.44 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 12:35.06 | JoshBorke | morning |
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| 12:46.26 | omega__ | Mikma: it was earlier when both sylvanaar and myself couldnt find Supply and Demand on the Addon listing |
| 12:46.32 | omega__ | untill someone pointed out there was a page 2 |
| 12:46.39 | [Ammo] | *** Page 2 *** |
| 12:46.40 | omega__ | which indeed listed Supply And Demand |
| 12:46.57 | Lyri | hello, I've a question concerning SVN. (I use TortoiseSVN) Is there a possibility to ignore specifc externals and download all the other ones? |
| 12:47.04 | [Ammo] | nope |
| 12:47.16 | Lyri | :( |
| 12:47.43 | Lyri | are there clients witch provide this? |
| 12:48.13 | vhaarr | why would you want that? |
| 12:48.53 | Lyri | less traffic / loading times |
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| 12:59.06 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15239 10Squeenix/Squeenix.lua: Squeenix: Does not require AceEvent and AceHook mixin. |
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| 13:04.37 | Galencia | bah no comments yet :p |
| 13:05.09 | Galencia | Lyri: you really wouldnt want that... you might think you do, but you dont.. |
| 13:05.31 | Mi|es | just go back to standalone libs, that works fine |
| 13:05.40 | Galencia | just read me guide *grin* |
| 13:05.43 | Galencia | s/me/my/ |
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| 13:08.22 | abbat_w | Lyri, listen to Galencia ;) |
| 13:08.39 | Mi|es | I've a question about AceEvent. If a nub addon errors in an event handler, will AceEvent be able to send events to other handlers who are interested in the same event? |
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| 13:09.48 | krka | should be pcalled, yes |
| 13:10.27 | Mi|es | I think I just experienced a bad handler blocking player target changed :/ |
| 13:10.34 | Mi|es | reading AceEvent's code now |
| 13:10.43 | JoshBorke | there are no pcall's in AceEvent-2.0.lua |
| 13:11.36 | Mi|es | heh. anyone up to finding out the performance impact of pcall // creating a patch? |
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| 13:12.02 | JoshBorke | i think the better thing is to fix the addon? |
| 13:12.25 | krka | hm, true |
| 13:12.36 | krka | only validate user input code, not other addons |
| 13:13.19 | Mi|es | as a event dispatcher, it should be bug-in-addon-proof |
| 13:13.54 | Mi|es | otherwise one error can break a whole chain of events |
| 13:14.08 | krka | yes, but atleast you locate trhe bug |
| 13:14.10 | krka | so you can fix it |
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| 13:15.16 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15241 10oRA2/Participant/Item.lua: oRA2: added disabling of item check response |
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| 13:22.15 | Galencia | 20 views no comments, pfft ! |
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| 13:23.06 | abbat_w | Galencia ;))) |
| 13:23.55 | abbat_w | You can browse forum threads like 'AceHook-2.1 broken my UI' and post links to you guide |
| 13:24.00 | abbat_w | And you have 2k views after 1-2 days ;) |
| 13:24.02 | Galencia | hehe |
| 13:24.10 | Galencia | i'll pass :) |
| 13:24.39 | abbat_w | and if you put you photo in guide you receice 100 comments and 200-300 PMs ;) |
| 13:24.49 | JoshBorke | what guide? |
| 13:24.56 | abbat_w | =) |
| 13:25.08 | abbat_w | Heh, 21 views ;) |
| 13:25.31 | Galencia | abbat_w: rofl. |
| 13:25.34 | abbat_w | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/How_To_Update_Beta_Addons |
| 13:25.37 | abbat_w | this one |
| 13:25.42 | JoshBorke | ah |
| 13:25.50 | Galencia | abbat_w: what do you think if i put a pic of a hot female in there instead |
| 13:26.20 | abbat_w | You must read it if you have problems like 'my UI was broken with acehook' or something like ;) |
| 13:27.19 | abbat_w | Galencia, sure. But what about me i can't believe if i see photo from suze.net for example ;) Or something like ;) |
| 13:30.24 | abbat_w | And if it's possible put this guide to first or second lvl of wowace site |
| 13:30.35 | Mi|es | Is there a library that does about the same thing as UnitChannelInfo / UnitCastingInfo in 1.12? |
| 13:30.51 | JoshBorke | Miles: currently? not that is shared. |
| 13:31.25 | Mi|es | like NECB, parses Blabla begins to cast/perform [spell] |
| 13:32.04 | abbat_w | Look at Antagonist (formely HostelBar) |
| 13:32.16 | abbat_w | This is ace2 mod which realise what you ask |
| 13:32.21 | JoshBorke | or look at NECB or HealWatch or HealSync |
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| 13:33.03 | Mi|es | ugh |
| 13:33.07 | JoshBorke | all have some sort of similar functionality where they read the combat log for unit spellcast information |
| 13:33.44 | abbat_w | Hmm.. not hooking? |
| 13:34.07 | Mi|es | oh well, no lightweight spell info library. I guess I'll just do with MCP, it does the same :P |
| 13:34.08 | JoshBorke | hooking is done for information sharing along the addon channel, yes |
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| 13:57.20 | vhaarr | kergoth: Your BanzaiAlert changes do not work, the oRA2 module is never created. |
| 13:58.02 | sbu | [2006/10/26 15:55:43-833]: AutoBar\AutoBarItemList.lua:21: bad argument #1 to `pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 13:58.02 | sbu | hm |
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| 14:32.11 | CIA-17 | AckBar: |
| 14:32.11 | CIA-17 | -Missed an old table, woops |
| 14:32.11 | CIA-17 | -Set AckBonusBar to Hidden by default |
| 14:33.07 | haste | *** *** Ammo goes into a killing fury! *** *** |
| 14:33.21 | sylvanaar | i bought this MS lifecam - the picture is soo bad |
| 14:33.51 | sylvanaar | anyone else have one? |
| 14:35.05 | [Ammo] | naah I'm laughing atm |
| 14:35.06 | [Ammo] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg5_mlQOsUQ |
| 14:35.16 | [Ammo] | HARD PORN, FINDS A WHIP! |
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| 14:37.07 | vhaarr | haha |
| 14:37.14 | vhaarr | zeeeebraaa |
| 14:37.16 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 14:38.42 | [Ammo] | this is another version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A5-5JYmgpI&mode=related&search= |
| 14:38.56 | vhaarr | haha that man looking at his watch |
| 14:38.57 | vhaarr | imba |
| 14:39.19 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:39.25 | [Ammo] | it's pretty damn good |
| 14:41.40 | phyber | but the question is, what is that guys power level? |
| 14:41.48 | phyber | is it anywhere near NINE THOUSSAAAAND!? |
| 14:42.01 | phyber | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI |
| 14:44.03 | Mikma | http://kqe.de/pruell/hardcore-animal-sex.jpg |
| 14:46.36 | haste | err |
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| 14:50.59 | sylvanaar | [Ammo]: hurley from the 2nd one |
| 14:55.00 | Galencia | http://static.flickr.com/118/278562314_14716c0232.jpg |
| 14:55.46 | sylvanaar | http://imminent.ytmnd.com/ |
| 14:58.04 | sbu | mhhh, external-naming problem in autobar |
| 14:58.23 | sbu | dir is named 'PTEmbedElemMisc.lua' - in .toc its only 'PTEmbedElemMisc' |
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| 15:04.25 | haste | I want the TBC menu music now |
| 15:06.58 | Zicon | mikma: Cute. |
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| 15:41.30 | sbu | haste: go rip + encode it ;p |
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| 15:45.41 | haste | super hiro! |
| 15:45.56 | haste | sbu: myabe, I would have to play with some mpqlib then |
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| 15:46.45 | evl | did anyone know some magic trick to get Prat working with Standalone? |
| 15:47.03 | evl | ckknight: is DurabilityFu TBC onlyt? |
| 15:47.11 | evl | ckknight: gives me borkings when running in 1.0 |
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| 16:00.09 | Lyri | does an ace cecb replacement with candybars exist? |
| 16:01.46 | haste | cecb equals? |
| 16:02.31 | Galencia | Lyri: antagonist |
| 16:02.43 | Galencia | and chronometer, depending on which bits of cecb you want |
| 16:02.47 | Lyri | oh thx ill try it :) |
| 16:08.25 | Azurewrath | uhm.. [2006/10/26 18:07:43-478]: FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua:900: FuBarPluginoRA2Frame:SetPoint(): trying to anchor to itself |
| 16:10.00 | Somani | Azurewrath mach halt net immer alles kaputt -.- |
| 16:10.13 | cncfanatics | god, I HATE my internet provide |
| 16:10.18 | cncfanatics | s/provide/provider |
| 16:10.43 | cncfanatics | they provide firmware upgrades for their modems, but the software is windows :/ |
| 16:10.53 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: http://ace.pastey.net/1806 |
| 16:11.27 | pastamancer | if you use closures in a similar manner in fb2, it'll speed up the text replacement |
| 16:11.41 | cncfanatics | i'll look into it |
| 16:11.46 | cncfanatics | first need my modem firmware upgraded |
| 16:11.53 | cncfanatics | then I need to go get my school report :/ |
| 16:12.49 | cncfanatics | so pastamancer |
| 16:13.00 | cncfanatics | basicly, each time the text is changed I should generate a list of textsubs used in it ? |
| 16:13.03 | cncfanatics | and only update those |
| 16:13.34 | pastamancer | each time the text is change you'd generate a new closure |
| 16:13.47 | cncfanatics | define 'closure' ? :) |
| 16:13.54 | pastamancer | genDynamicStringClosure returns a function |
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| 16:14.38 | Azurewrath | mhm.. OneBag and/or OneView causes my errors.. interesting.. |
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| 16:16.03 | pastamancer | think of it as a function created by a function with access to any local variables that were around when the function (closure) was created |
| 16:17.14 | cncfanatics | i'll read ur code when my firmware is upgraded, first gonna focus on that, can't do both at once :/ |
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| 16:19.19 | cncfanatics | how much times faster compared to my current code, pastamancer ? |
| 16:19.59 | pastamancer | I ended up with approximately twice as fast with 10000 iterations |
| 16:20.13 | cncfanatics | hmmm, one more thing |
| 16:20.34 | cncfanatics | ur code reacts fine with multiple text subs in the same string ? |
| 16:20.45 | pastamancer | I'll pastey the output of it |
| 16:22.18 | cncfanatics | and bleh, cld u explain it, cuz honestly, I don't understand the closures at all :/ |
| 16:22.22 | pastamancer | http://ace.pastey.net/1825 that's lua 5.0 under linux on an amd64 |
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| 16:22.57 | pastamancer | basically you're parsing the string once and then returning a function that generates the replacement string |
| 16:23.20 | cncfanatics | so, the string.gmatch & company is only called when the string is generated |
| 16:23.29 | pastamancer | yes |
| 16:23.38 | cncfanatics | good stuff :) |
| 16:24.10 | pastamancer | then when it's time to update the text on the button, it just calls each textsub function and passes the results to string.format |
| 16:24.18 | cncfanatics | there's no way to find out when a string is changed except making ppl change it thru a function I guess ? |
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| 16:24.32 | cncfanatics | thanks a lot pastamancer btw :) |
| 16:25.15 | pastamancer | right, you'd have to make people call FlexBar2.model.SetButtonText or whatever which would then generate the closure |
| 16:26.12 | cncfanatics | Thanks, i'll use ur idea for sure, but might implent it a bit differently |
| 16:26.33 | pastamancer | well, it was just an example :) |
| 16:27.07 | cncfanatics | don't think i'll make the SetButtonText generate funcs |
| 16:27.17 | cncfanatics | but just a list of prefix & suffix |
| 16:28.24 | cncfanatics | so the only thing to call when u updatebuttontext is gsub |
| 16:29.12 | hugo | hi |
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| 16:29.32 | hugo | i think i seen addon (ui) where the user moved all minimap icons to fubar |
| 16:29.36 | hugo | anyone know about it ? ;] |
| 16:30.50 | [Ammo] | what minimap icons? |
| 16:31.09 | Kirkburn | The icons you get around the minimap? |
| 16:31.22 | [Ammo] | my minimap does not have icons :) |
| 16:31.30 | haste | mine has mail icon! |
| 16:31.33 | Kirkburn | Oh, *that's* what you were saying :P |
| 16:31.39 | haste | s/s/s a/ |
| 16:31.41 | [Ammo] | yeah ok mail icon |
| 16:31.44 | [Ammo] | but that's it |
| 16:31.56 | Kirkburn | You ... lose! You get ... nothing! |
| 16:32.02 | haste | oh, and a herbing something item |
| 16:32.14 | cncfanatics | mine has way too much icons |
| 16:32.41 | haste | L26 Warlock challenges me to a duel, then he _whines_ about being challenged? |
| 16:32.43 | [Ammo] | naah herbing is dealt with by trackerfu |
| 16:33.27 | cncfanatics | haste, think as if they're asking 'ignore me please' |
| 16:34.02 | haste | I don't ignore people |
| 16:34.08 | haste | or I've ignored one person -> Tuplad |
| 16:34.12 | cncfanatics | (god damnit, x.org got updated, piece of shit to upgrade) |
| 16:34.23 | cncfanatics | how did he earn that honor ? |
| 16:34.49 | haste | what x.org update? |
| 16:35.14 | cncfanatics | the x.org debian packages got updated it seems |
| 16:35.18 | cncfanatics | just saw it with apt |
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| 16:36.15 | cncfanatics | lemme check whats the latest |
| 16:36.43 | cncfanatics | 1:7.0.22 |
| 16:36.47 | cncfanatics | 7.0 |
| 16:36.56 | cncfanatics | 7.1 in unstable but i'm using the testing tree |
| 16:37.26 | haste | I'm running usntable here, been for about a year now with almost no problems |
| 16:37.34 | cncfanatics | debian unstable ? |
| 16:37.37 | haste | except for when dbus got a update and broke every package on the system |
| 16:37.39 | haste | no, gentoo |
| 16:37.45 | evl | FFS |
| 16:37.52 | evl | AceHook-2.1 |
| 16:37.56 | evl | How do I fix it? |
| 16:38.05 | evl | I've replaced all my instances with the latest version |
| 16:38.05 | haste | s/every/every dbus using/ |
| 16:38.08 | evl | I still get tons of errors. |
| 16:38.27 | sylvanaar | i wish i had more time to install unstable OS'es - work+wow+rl+(sleep/2) > 24 |
| 16:38.41 | haste | evl: you might want to check the TOCs of the addons which use AceHook-2.1 |
| 16:38.43 | cncfanatics | debian testing is enough for me |
| 16:38.49 | cncfanatics | don't want unstable cuz it updates WAY too often |
| 16:38.55 | evl | I tried Standalone tyoo |
| 16:38.58 | cncfanatics | I spend more time updating then doing anything else with unstable |
| 16:38.59 | sylvanaar | i want to check out windows vista |
| 16:39.02 | evl | but then no addons remembered their settings |
| 16:39.07 | evl | so I'm going back to my ancient addons |
| 16:39.08 | evl | atleast they work |
| 16:39.11 | haste | hehe |
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| 16:39.43 | evl | but wtf is up? |
| 16:39.50 | evl | why upgrade an addon just to make it break everything :( |
| 16:40.47 | sylvanaar | evl: rhetorical? |
| 16:40.49 | cncfanatics | wait till wow upgrades to 2.0.0 |
| 16:40.58 | cncfanatics | it'll rly break everything then |
| 16:42.01 | evl | I want to stay up to date |
| 16:42.12 | evl | but AceHook-2.1 is just mean |
| 16:42.22 | cncfanatics | whats up with it ? |
| 16:42.24 | evl | and some addons are being upgraded to TBC without branching (!!!) |
| 16:42.30 | cncfanatics | from what I'm hearing its very buggy |
| 16:42.33 | evl | It is |
| 16:42.36 | evl | For me atleast |
| 16:42.37 | sylvanaar | wonder why i havent had any issues |
| 16:43.54 | sylvanaar | tbc upgrades on the trunk sounds like a dumb idea if its not meant to be 1.12 compatible |
| 16:44.02 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 16:44.12 | cncfanatics | (FB2 is TBC only, but thats another case , it never was 1.12 :p) |
| 16:44.48 | sylvanaar | cncfanatics: what? |
| 16:44.54 | cncfanatics | nvm me :p |
| 16:44.55 | haste | sylvanaar: not really, since the trunk = active developement |
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| 16:45.17 | Saroz_ | sup people |
| 16:46.05 | cncfanatics | life sucks, getting my school report soon:) |
| 16:46.27 | evl | haste: active development for those who have beta keys |
| 16:46.35 | evl | haste: and has there ever been a stable branch anyway? |
| 16:46.38 | sylvanaar | haste: its a poor choice by any measure, unless the mod never ran under 1.12 |
| 16:47.06 | AKX | Hmm |
| 16:47.10 | haste | it never ran under 1.12 |
| 16:47.16 | AKX | Why couldn't a mod run under both BC and 1.12 |
| 16:47.23 | AKX | It shouldn't be too hard lua-wise |
| 16:47.27 | haste | not possible in all cases |
| 16:47.34 | cncfanatics | lol, go read the TBC API changes ... |
| 16:47.37 | haste | or it is, but requires a lot of 1.12 comapt to be added |
| 16:47.38 | evl | My only issue is trying to find the versions that work |
| 16:47.43 | evl | would be nice with a stable branch imho |
| 16:47.48 | cncfanatics | go in the svn history ? |
| 16:47.52 | evl | now it's a nightmare trying to find something that isn't odl |
| 16:47.53 | snurre | ok, which genious put flight timers in bigwigs? o.O |
| 16:47.58 | sylvanaar | AKX: some can - the point though is that at the very least - the trunk should be the current client version |
| 16:48.33 | JoshBork1 | evl: go with released version on wowinterface and the like? |
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| 16:49.08 | [Ammo] | snurre: flight timers? |
| 16:49.13 | evl | JoshBork1: which are over a month old each |
| 16:49.58 | snurre | [Ammo]: it seems ToFu is hooked to bigwigs o.O |
| 16:50.03 | JoshBork1 | but how many revisions back are they? and if they are lots of revisions back, what changed in those revisions? just because something has an old date doesn't mean that it is obsolete or vastly different than the current version |
| 16:50.04 | snurre | wts that |
| 16:50.12 | sylvanaar | evl: yeah stable branches just add alot of extra work, but they are good |
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| 16:50.26 | [Ammo] | say what? |
| 16:50.44 | snurre | what? |
| 16:50.57 | pastamancer | that's crazy talk. If I'm not running the absolute latest version of everything even if it breaks my interface horribly, I have failed as a person :p |
| 16:51.11 | [Ammo] | I'm just baffled people hooking useless junk like that into bigwigs |
| 16:51.17 | snurre | same |
| 16:51.26 | snurre | whole raid had the flight timers of someone in the raid :p |
| 16:51.33 | snurre | retarded |
| 16:51.37 | pastamancer | wait, I thought the spawntimers were a separate addon? |
| 16:51.41 | [Ammo] | snurre: wow |
| 16:52.01 | pastamancer | oooh, flight timers |
| 16:52.03 | pastamancer | wtf |
| 16:52.13 | pastamancer | I read that as "fight" timers |
| 16:52.16 | [Ammo] | fixing that issue now |
| 16:52.20 | [Ammo] | fucking morons |
| 16:52.21 | JoshBork1 | lol |
| 16:52.31 | Mikma | whee |
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| 16:52.34 | Mikma | feel the hate |
| 16:52.35 | haste | snurre: It's the ToFu add on, or something |
| 16:52.41 | snurre | yeah |
| 16:52.43 | snurre | we figured |
| 16:52.48 | haste | ah, hokai :3 |
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| 16:53.16 | Funkeh` | hey |
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| 16:54.59 | cncfanatics | pastamancer |
| 16:55.14 | pastamancer | haha, http://code.google.com/p/lualisp/ ... I totally need to play around with that after Grid is finished |
| 16:55.26 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/1826 |
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| 16:55.34 | cncfanatics | pastamancer, is that good code to gen 'closures' |
| 16:55.37 | cncfanatics | ?* |
| 16:56.12 | sylvanaar | on a serious note - where is the current thought on keeping track of cooldowns (like what commonauras does) |
| 16:56.14 | cncfanatics | omg, with that we can write addons in LISP ? |
| 16:56.20 | pastamancer | well, that's not really a closure since you're not creating an anonymous function |
| 16:56.28 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15249 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Stop spamming the whole raid with your dumb flighttimes kthxbye |
| 16:56.39 | cncfanatics | it would be nearly as fast to loop through the table is generating a function I think ? |
| 16:56.43 | pastamancer | I know, wouldn't it be exciting, lisp everywhere |
| 16:56.49 | cncfanatics | I can't make functions for some reasons |
| 16:57.03 | cncfanatics | (sometimes only 1 or 2 subs need to be updated, with funcs i'd always update em all) |
| 16:57.12 | pastamancer | yeah, it probably would be just as fast. possibly a bit less convenient though |
| 16:57.22 | evl | JoshBorke: I think you shoudl check wowinterface and see how many current mods that are there |
| 16:57.39 | evl | JoshBorke: oRA2? no, oCD/oCB/oUF |
| 16:57.45 | evl | It's practically empty |
| 16:57.56 | cncfanatics | most ace2 devs don't bother :/ |
| 16:58.00 | pastamancer | also, with the closure, I only need two tables. one for functions and one for the results |
| 16:58.07 | cncfanatics | I only use one table here |
| 16:58.08 | [Ammo] | oRA2 is not ready for release uyet |
| 16:58.14 | cncfanatics | just a cache of prefix & suffix |
| 16:58.15 | [Ammo] | I had the curse-gaming admin asking me about it already |
| 16:58.22 | [Ammo] | and told him I'd upload it when it was ready |
| 16:58.27 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 16:58.31 | pastamancer | table.insert(matchlist, {prefix, suffix}); <---- that's creating a table for each match |
| 16:58.42 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, true :) |
| 16:59.02 | cncfanatics | huge performance/mem loss with that or not ? |
| 16:59.07 | evl | Sigh |
| 16:59.10 | pastamancer | GC churn |
| 16:59.11 | evl | I just want to run something :D |
| 16:59.17 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 16:59.19 | pastamancer | you could create a table for prefixes and a table for suffixes |
| 16:59.37 | cncfanatics | yea, nice idea |
| 16:59.39 | cncfanatics | will do that |
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| 17:00.43 | pastamancer | don't forget to make a format string too because you won't want to string.gsub every time a button is updated |
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| 17:01.00 | cncfanatics | hmmm, never used string.format before :/ |
| 17:01.06 | pastamancer | it's just like printf |
| 17:01.19 | cncfanatics | hehe, I barely ever used it :p |
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| 17:01.34 | cncfanatics | how cld I prevent using gsub with strformat ? |
| 17:01.42 | cncfanatics | kinda a nub with string manip :/ |
| 17:01.54 | pastamancer | by pre-replacing the $(match) with %s |
| 17:02.15 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 17:02.24 | ag` | new beta patch today? |
| 17:02.29 | cncfanatics | that prevents me from only updating a few select subs with the UpdateButtonText method |
| 17:02.32 | pastamancer | ag`: securepartyheader! |
| 17:02.33 | cncfanatics | i'd always have to update em all |
| 17:02.36 | Angeris | 22mbs :P |
| 17:03.11 | cncfanatics | and the text subs aren't very light tbh, some will take a lot of mem, so updating em all each time a button is updated is kinda bad |
| 17:03.14 | hugo | using /prat timestamps format <format>. It uses the strftime format |
| 17:03.30 | hugo | please is somewhere a link to strftime format ? |
| 17:03.36 | hugo | don't know the format :) |
| 17:03.38 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: that's what you're doing now |
| 17:04.03 | cncfanatics | code got updated since yesterday :) (not on svn tho) |
| 17:04.04 | AKX | OK, what's the Approved Fix for AceHook-2.1 problems? |
| 17:04.11 | cncfanatics | added a param to only update a few prefixes |
| 17:04.23 | cncfanatics | (so my onupdate code wld only update cd and not regenerate all the others too) |
| 17:05.32 | pastamancer | then the statc textsub functions can be replaced in the initial parse |
| 17:05.56 | cncfanatics | statc ? |
| 17:06.00 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15250 10oRA2/Participant/ (CoolDown.lua Resurrection.lua): oRA2: added true for hooks that will need it in TBC. |
| 17:06.07 | pastamancer | s/statc/static/ |
| 17:06.53 | cncfanatics | they all generate code by getting info from the UI nearly, no static ones *yet* |
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| 17:09.34 | evl | Did anyone have a trick to get Prat to remember settings with Standalone? :P |
| 17:09.48 | pastamancer | well, by static, I meant things that wouldn't be changing unless the string is changed |
| 17:09.59 | ag` | pastamancer: is it easy to use? |
| 17:10.10 | pastamancer | ag`: no idea, it hasn't ended up on wdn yet |
| 17:10.18 | cncfanatics | thats what I mean too pastamancer |
| 17:10.21 | cncfanatics | there are none atm |
| 17:10.34 | ag` | pastamancer: I will extract frameXML then |
| 17:10.47 | pastamancer | ag`: please send me the secure frame files :) |
| 17:11.05 | ag` | sure thing |
| 17:11.19 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: oh, then if there aren't any static textsub functions, wouldn't you need to update all of them every time because any of them might have changed? |
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| 17:12.45 | cncfanatics | not always pastamancer |
| 17:12.53 | pastamancer | example? |
| 17:12.59 | cncfanatics | its quite logical that on the BAG_UPDATE event only the text subs regarding items will have changed |
| 17:13.08 | cncfanatics | all others can remain untouched |
| 17:13.42 | pastamancer | how do you plan on handling that? |
| 17:14.02 | cncfanatics | text subs will be able to 'tell' flexbar on what events they need updating |
| 17:14.30 | CIA-17 | 03aileen * r15251 10FuBar_VolumeFu/ (6 files): |
| 17:14.30 | CIA-17 | FuBar_VolumeFu: |
| 17:14.30 | CIA-17 | - clickable tooltip for speedier volume/setting changes |
| 17:14.30 | CIA-17 | - removed quickfix setting, it just always does it now |
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| 17:15.33 | cncfanatics | not implented yet tho |
| 17:16.01 | pastamancer | I'd be curious to see how you implement that |
| 17:16.11 | cncfanatics | me too :) didn't think about it yet :p |
| 17:17.03 | ag` | pastamancer: tinyurl.com/yxjh9z |
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| 17:17.47 | pastamancer | ag`: thanks |
| 17:21.29 | pastamancer | oh, it looks like SecurePartyHeader works exactly like SecureRaidHeader just without the filter attributes |
| 17:22.41 | pastamancer | ooh and the fixed a bug I noticed with it not hiding frames after the first one in each group |
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| 17:23.32 | cncfanatics | pastamancer: |
| 17:23.33 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/1828 |
| 17:23.39 | cncfanatics | what u think of that code ? (drycoded) |
| 17:25.51 | pastamancer | well, that'll definitely be faster than using gfind every time |
| 17:26.18 | cncfanatics | now I need to be able to tell FB when to update what text sub |
| 17:27.41 | vhaarr | ckknight: Does AceHook-2.1 1.12 (trunk) emulate TBC by calling the original function for you before your hook if you HookSecure? |
| 17:27.46 | vhaarr | ckknight: And if not, why? |
| 17:27.48 | pastamancer | you'll want to use local suffix = SuffixList[n] or "" to prevent errors when there is no suffix |
| 17:28.12 | cncfanatics | hmm, wldnt the string.find set it to "" anyway ? |
| 17:28.16 | cncfanatics | or will it use nil ? |
| 17:28.27 | JoshBorke | string.find returns nil when there is no match |
| 17:28.35 | cncfanatics | will, i'm using (.*) |
| 17:28.43 | cncfanatics | so in theory, the match is "" |
| 17:28.52 | cncfanatics | (.-) I mean |
| 17:29.39 | cncfanatics | what u think ? |
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| 17:31.14 | JoshBorke | doing print(string.find('hello world!','hello world!(.-)')) returns 1 12 |
| 17:31.28 | cncfanatics | what as third & fourth arg ? |
| 17:31.35 | JoshBorke | no 3rd/4th arg |
| 17:31.52 | JoshBorke | doing print(string.find('hello world!','hello (.-)!')) returns 1 12 world |
| 17:32.02 | cncfanatics | so its nil, bah |
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| 17:33.18 | cncfanatics | time to get get my school report, shit |
| 17:33.23 | cncfanatics | cya all, pray I don't die |
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| 17:35.58 | Funkeh` | anyone else having scroll problems with latest oRA2 versions check? the scroll bar is gone so it only shows a limited amount of verions |
| 17:36.13 | doktoreas | mate, a friend of mine using windows is asking me if he can use wow updater as an installer |
| 17:36.19 | doktoreas | from scratch |
| 17:36.47 | Funkeh` | yes you can install all addons from ace website via updater |
| 17:37.12 | doktoreas | nice thx |
| 17:38.04 | Funkeh` | anyone using latest oRA2 can test this? |
| 17:39.17 | doktoreas | any warrior ? :D |
| 17:41.27 | evl | I just tried updating with winaceupdater but I get a buuunch of AceHook-2.1 errors |
| 17:41.46 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15252 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2: Add lots of missing instances for outlands. |
| 17:42.32 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15253 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: TouristLib: Add level ranges for the new Outlands instances and fixup Plaguewood to include Naxxramas and Blackrock Mountain to include the ones there. |
| 17:42.41 | doktoreas | he is asking if there's an addon that change button for each stance |
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| 17:43.18 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15254 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: FuBar_LocationFu: If the high level is the same as the low, just show (level). Support instance tagging on subzones. |
| 17:43.19 | doktoreas | the button on the action bar |
| 17:44.01 | Kebinusan | Seriously /boggle [YHBT]_Bleach_101_v2_[A0B1B545].avi == Baseball?? |
| 17:44.20 | Meiun | YHBT = You have been trolled |
| 17:44.21 | Meiun | :f |
| 17:44.29 | pastamancer | haha, the baseball episode was crazy |
| 17:45.52 | Kebinusan | :-( |
| 17:46.07 | pastamancer | wait, wrong show |
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| 17:47.01 | Kebinusan | pasta, yeah its like an actual Tokyo baseball game |
| 17:47.15 | Kebinusan | wrapped in the bleach opener/ending credits I think someone messed up |
| 17:48.14 | pastamancer | oh, wierd |
| 17:48.25 | pastamancer | I was thinking of... Samurai Champloo I think |
| 17:49.28 | doktoreas | in bartender can i swap from different layout? |
| 17:49.54 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2803.0 |
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| 17:56.50 | haste | pastamancer: samurai champloo is pretty good |
| 17:57.11 | pastamancer | I enjoyed it |
| 17:57.39 | Funkeh` | no one having this oRA2 problem? |
| 18:01.03 | eternally777 | WoWWiki down today? |
| 18:01.14 | vhaarr | been down a long time :( |
| 18:01.39 | usz | you can browse it via google copies |
| 18:03.25 | weab | it isn't down |
| 18:04.48 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r15255 10oRA2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: update zhCN locales |
| 18:05.43 | weab | slow as balls, but that's hardly uncommon for wowwiki. especially since forums are down |
| 18:06.23 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r15256 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs: update the zhCN locale |
| 18:07.33 | sylvanaar | seemts to happen around the same time every day |
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| 18:11.13 | benjdr | hey chaps |
| 18:11.22 | evl | which addons are TBC only and which are not? |
| 18:11.37 | benjdr | can someone tell me what mod is putting the numbers below the spelll buttons here? |
| 18:11.38 | benjdr | http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot102406192208kc8.jpg |
| 18:12.07 | eternally777 | TheoryCraft |
| 18:12.51 | Gamefaq | [19:39] <Funkeh`> anyone using latest oRA2 can test this? - confirm scrolling on version test frame is broken |
| 18:12.53 | sylvanaar | its such a cool mod |
| 18:13.53 | benjdr | it looks like its the average spell damage? |
| 18:13.59 | eternally777 | Yeah |
| 18:14.00 | sylvanaar | you can see how a respec might change your spell hits, or how much your damage on shadow bolt goes up when you use your zhc |
| 18:14.07 | sylvanaar | its lice |
| 18:14.07 | eternally777 | "" |
| 18:14.13 | sylvanaar | live |
| 18:14.18 | benjdr | was theory crafthte answer to my quest? |
| 18:14.22 | benjdr | question |
| 18:14.25 | eternally777 | Yeah. |
| 18:14.25 | haste | so _that's_ what the numbers are for |
| 18:14.35 | eternally777 | It's big tho, i think. |
| 18:14.40 | ckknight | vhaarr, yes |
| 18:14.53 | sylvanaar | huge |
| 18:14.58 | eternally777 | I was considering making a similar plugin for EPGauge, since it's collecting some of that data anyway. |
| 18:15.00 | sylvanaar | oink oink |
| 18:15.07 | eternally777 | err, wow.. EPMeter. |
| 18:15.55 | sylvanaar | eternally777: what? |
| 18:16.25 | eternally777 | sylvanaar: Huh? |
| 18:16.40 | vhaarr | ckknight: ah, excellent |
| 18:16.48 | vhaarr | ckknight: take a look at my LocationFu and TouristLib changes |
| 18:16.53 | vhaarr | ckknight: if they are OK or not |
| 18:17.31 | Mikma | i still don't get it |
| 18:17.53 | sylvanaar | Mikma: get what? |
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| 18:18.04 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r15257 10oSkin/ (AOElements.lua AddonFrames.lua): oSkin: Skinned UberQuest v1.11.9 |
| 18:18.34 | Mikma | sylvanaar: page 2 |
| 18:19.38 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addons |
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| 18:20.11 | Mikma | ok. now that the point is clear, how about you just stop it now :) |
| 18:20.32 | Mikma | the first thing i ever noticed on that page was: (previous 200) (next 200) |
| 18:22.43 | vhaarr | ckknight: I committed some changes to LocationFu, TouristLib and Babble-Zone, please review. |
| 18:22.47 | sylvanaar | Mikma: its supposed to be humorous, im saying it now whenever im confused. we were looking at the supply and demand source to find out the tags then someone linked the wiki page and we were like, 'why isnt it linked from the main page' |
| 18:23.22 | Funkeh` | gamefaq: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2099.msg55730#msg55730 |
| 18:23.29 | sylvanaar | 3 people, we all felt retarded |
| 18:24.25 | Mikma | sylvanaar: well newsflash, it's getting old now |
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| 18:24.50 | sylvanaar | Mikma: lol |
| 18:26.43 | Funkeh` | Gamefaq: proof enough? |
| 18:27.43 | Gamefaq | hm? why you proof me this? i confirm it above... |
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| 18:28.11 | Funkeh` | Gamefaq: apologies, i thought you wanted me to confirm |
| 18:28.26 | Kirkburn | Btw, is anything happening with Otravi Castbar? |
| 18:29.23 | Kirkburn | (hmm, maybe I missed something, nvm me) |
| 18:29.52 | sylvanaar | eternally777: i saw your post about spell rank / parserlib did you ever get anywhere? |
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| 18:31.40 | Kirkburn | Hmm, I appeared to miss oCB being updated again :D |
| 18:32.21 | snurre | oCB - Already at rev 15174 - Skipping |
| 18:32.23 | snurre | so new enough |
| 18:32.31 | Kirkburn | Yeah, I just noticed :P |
| 18:32.40 | Kirkburn | Means I can finally get rid of Ace 1.3 |
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| 18:33.30 | haste | oCB has been out for months |
| 18:33.40 | haste | just that I moved it from branches -> trunk 'cause of the whine |
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| 18:34.13 | Kirkburn | Are not two ckknight's enough already? :O |
| 18:34.36 | Kirkburn | I know you said you like attention, but c'mon :P |
| 18:34.53 | sylvanaar | maybe its like the shell game |
| 18:35.46 | sylvanaar | where is the little red ball? =P |
| 18:36.20 | ckknight__ | blah |
| 18:37.34 | Mikma | ckknight: hi boss |
| 18:37.42 | ckknight | you made LocationFu changes, vhaarr? |
| 18:37.52 | vhaarr | ckknight: yes, I've been trying to tell you. |
| 18:37.58 | vhaarr | but you keep disconnecting :) |
| 18:38.04 | ckknight | what'd you change? |
| 18:38.26 | Mikma | vhaarr: go code! |
| 18:38.35 | FtH|eagle | anybody playing wow under linux with wine? |
| 18:38.53 | vhaarr | ckknight: two things, one bugfix and one feature. |
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| 18:39.14 | ckknight | k |
| 18:39.35 | vhaarr | I can copy/paste the changelog |
| 18:40.20 | vhaarr | if it's hard for you to access it now |
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| 18:42.28 | ckknight_ | sorry |
| 18:42.32 | ckknight_ | should be fixed now |
| 18:42.40 | ckknight_ | <vhaarr> I can copy/paste the changelog |
| 18:42.40 | ckknight_ | <ckknight> please do |
| 18:43.04 | vhaarr | FuBar_LocationFu: Adhere to the "show coordinates" option. |
| 18:43.10 | vhaarr | .Babble-Zone-2.2: Add lots of missing instances for outlands. |
| 18:43.20 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.24 | vhaarr | FuBar_LocationFu: If the high level is the same as the low, just show (level). Support instance tagging on subzones. |
| 18:44.00 | vhaarr | What that means is that if you hover Blackrock Mountain, it will show the instances, not only Searing Gorge on the continent map. |
| 18:44.18 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 18:44.39 | vhaarr | and Plaguewood for Naxxramas |
| 18:44.40 | vhaarr | for example |
| 18:44.45 | ckknight | see, I haven't actually done UBRS and whatnot |
| 18:44.53 | ckknight | so I was just pissing into the wind :-P |
| 18:45.16 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 18:45.28 | vhaarr | well they still show on Searing Gorge and Burning Steppes from the continent map |
| 18:45.34 | vhaarr | since you can't hover BRM from there |
| 18:45.59 | ckknight | okay |
| 18:46.20 | vhaarr | ckknight: I was thinking though, it would be nice to be able to mark instances as raid or 5-man. |
| 18:46.24 | vhaarr | or 10man or whatever |
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| 18:47.33 | doktoreas | mate anyone notice an error on oRA2 about missing Tablet? |
| 18:47.40 | doktoreas | i just updated |
| 18:49.57 | doktoreas | it |
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| 18:51.15 | evl | How often is wowace.com/files updated? |
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| 18:52.10 | ag` | evl: each time something is committed to the SVN |
| 18:52.16 | sylvanaar | evl: every time someone commits essentially |
| 18:52.17 | ag` | so that means... all the time |
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| 18:54.53 | doktoreas | the current oRA2 is broken? |
| 18:56.44 | Mikma | is there an event that fires when you change scale? |
| 18:57.50 | `-FISKER_Q\ | nope doktoreas |
| 18:58.44 | JoshBorke | what about propedits, do those generate zips? |
| 18:59.20 | doktoreas | i got an error about missing tablet |
| 18:59.55 | haste | ah, guild ventrilo |
| 19:00.09 | haste | "Yes, I do think I could fit a whole hand up my ass with some lube" |
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| 19:03.28 | `-FISKER_Q\ | lol gg |
| 19:03.33 | `-FISKER_Q\ | 3x3 worm spawns at fankriss |
| 19:03.50 | haste | I should record this VT sometime |
| 19:04.22 | pastamancer | haste: your guild simultaneously terrifies and interests me |
| 19:04.38 | `-FISKER_Q\ | oh no |
| 19:04.43 | `-FISKER_Q\ | 3x4 worm spawns |
| 19:04.43 | `-FISKER_Q\ | gg |
| 19:04.53 | haste | pastamancer: My guild is pretty strange, we whipe and the raid leader does a blame roll |
| 19:05.05 | haste | then flames the person with the raid UI |
| 19:05.10 | pastamancer | haha, nice |
| 19:05.11 | haste | s/ui/id/ |
| 19:05.30 | `-FISKER_Q\ | pretty cool we did it |
| 19:05.46 | haste | my mic is also refered to as the "fapper" 'cause it constantly makes a beeping/fap sound |
| 19:05.54 | haste | damn 1997 soundcard |
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| 19:09.05 | cnc`away | sigh, stupid school :p |
| 19:09.30 | cncfanatics | cya all, might take a while till I login again heh |
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| 19:10.40 | CIA-17 | 03joshborke * r15258 10Borked_Monitor/libs/: Borked_Monitor: finally updated rosterlib external |
| 19:12.05 | evl | !notes Borked_Monitor |
| 19:12.19 | JoshBorke | it's a mod to make pretty graphs |
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| 19:12.48 | pastamancer | do tell |
| 19:13.00 | JoshBorke | you can display the health/damage/healing on a unit in your raid |
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| 19:13.19 | pastamancer | ah |
| 19:13.36 | JoshBorke | sadly it can't actually update the entire frame with 0.1 seconds :-( it's like 170ms to move all the textures |
| 19:13.52 | ag` | textures? |
| 19:14.04 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 19:14.24 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5236 |
| 19:14.32 | ag` | haste: you fap fap on vent? |
| 19:14.41 | haste | uhm, no |
| 19:14.42 | ag` | ~haste |
| 19:14.44 | purl | methinks haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo. |
| 19:14.54 | kergoth | vhaarr: i don't know what you're talking about, I haven't touched banzaialert |
| 19:14.54 | haste | but my mic makes s fap sound :D |
| 19:15.12 | ag` | so your mic faps and you make porn voices? :p |
| 19:15.59 | haste | I don't make porn voices! |
| 19:16.21 | haste | all those characters were fake ^^ |
| 19:16.29 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: hmm, so is that using a whole bunch of textures to make the pretty graph? |
| 19:16.59 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: yes. PLEASE PLEASE tell me you know a better way |
| 19:17.07 | pastamancer | I was hoping you did :p |
| 19:17.18 | pastamancer | know of a better way that is |
| 19:18.02 | JoshBorke | seriously, moving 3x150 textures is EXPENSIVE |
| 19:18.47 | pastamancer | I'd imagine. are you actually calling SetPoint or are you just resizing them as the data marches along the x axis? |
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| 19:21.33 | Saroz_ | resizing sounds a lot cheaper |
| 19:21.46 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: calling SetPoint |
| 19:21.54 | Saroz_ | maybe 150 statusbars and use SetValue |
| 19:22.06 | ckknight | vhaarr, I'm not against it. |
| 19:22.15 | pastamancer | I think Saroz_ is right |
| 19:22.19 | JoshBorke | that'd work for the Health portion, but what about lines? |
| 19:22.25 | ckknight | about adding the raid size to the instance. |
| 19:22.37 | Saroz_ | lines? |
| 19:22.50 | JoshBorke | the black and blue lines |
| 19:23.05 | pastamancer | hmm, how do the lines work? |
| 19:23.17 | tigg | hmm, there are many missing translations in babble-spell? throws errors because they are just set true in deDE translation |
| 19:23.18 | JoshBorke | they are SetPoint'd |
| 19:23.23 | tigg | ckknight: is this intended? |
| 19:23.31 | JoshBorke | changing the health to statusbars might be better... |
| 19:23.41 | Saroz | even if you SetPointed the lines, using statusbars will be alot cheaper for health |
| 19:23.46 | pastamancer | do you just have a texture with a diagonal line in it? |
| 19:24.29 | Saroz | can you explain the point of the lines? |
| 19:24.48 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: it's a 1px wide texture |
| 19:25.18 | Mi|es | petition blizzard for a library... i've a neat ascii art + monospace font frame for charts, but it's just not good enough :p |
| 19:25.33 | JoshBorke | Saroz: optional lines showing the damage to and the healing to the unit. so you can see how much healing they receive as a percentage of their health |
| 19:27.09 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: you might want to look into how flightmap handles drawing lines, I think it does something fancy that lets it translate a straight-line texture into an arbitrary diagonal |
| 19:28.38 | krka | just use iriels drawline method |
| 19:28.41 | krka | much better |
| 19:28.56 | pastamancer | ah, that would work. I didn't know about that |
| 19:29.08 | Saroz | <3 |
| 19:29.25 | JoshBorke | yea, i dunno how to use Iriel's drawline method :-P |
| 19:29.41 | pastamancer | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3354&goto=nextnewest |
| 19:29.55 | haste | haha |
| 19:30.23 | haste | two people who are in the same room, yelling "noooo" while both hold the VT key in |
| 19:30.24 | vhaarr | kergoth: You changed it some time ago. |
| 19:30.25 | doktoreas | the error on oRA2 is on option.lua "cannot find a library istance of Tablet 2.0" |
| 19:30.29 | haste | very strange effect |
| 19:31.29 | vhaarr | kergoth: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/12801 |
| 19:31.35 | JoshBorke | so, work with me on this please :-) the line drawing code draws a _straight_ line, correct? |
| 19:31.36 | vhaarr | kergoth: Looks like you changed it to me. |
| 19:31.40 | krka | i dont remember how it worked... was some weird math |
| 19:31.51 | kergoth | ah, forgot about that |
| 19:31.53 | pastamancer | yeah, a straight line |
| 19:32.23 | JoshBorke | but the lines i'm creating are arbitrary lines (not straight) and are only straight between some points |
| 19:32.54 | pastamancer | so reduce the resolution of your line graph to say 20px and just use the drawline code |
| 19:33.40 | haste | if you want to draw a line, look at the TaxiFrame code |
| 19:33.43 | haste | it does it |
| 19:33.46 | haste | afaik at least |
| 19:35.18 | ckknight | tigg, they shouldn't be set to true in the deDE translation |
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| 19:37.20 | tigg | ckknight: kay, I just commented them out |
| 19:38.16 | tigg | ckknight: shall i upload patch-file? |
| 19:38.23 | ckknight | vhaarr, you added to Babble-Zone wrongly |
| 19:38.34 | vhaarr | gah |
| 19:38.40 | vhaarr | ckknight: what should I change? |
| 19:38.45 | ckknight | you shouldn't put in the English translations for the other languages |
| 19:38.53 | ckknight | they should be commented out |
| 19:39.00 | vhaarr | but it's set to strict? |
| 19:39.05 | vhaarr | I thought you couldn't fallback then |
| 19:39.15 | ckknight | right. |
| 19:39.28 | ckknight | therefore some lazy deDEutschlander will get off his ass and fill it in properly. |
| 19:39.34 | snurre | lawl, crezax just hit 4k AP on his 61 warr on TBC :p |
| 19:39.52 | vhaarr | ckknight: so I should comment them out and let the deDE guys unbreak it? |
| 19:39.52 | ckknight | because as it stands, it'll cause more problems now |
| 19:39.55 | ckknight | yes. |
| 19:39.58 | vhaarr | ok |
| 19:40.08 | tigg | ckknight: commenting them out would be nice |
| 19:40.29 | tigg | so some lazy germans can easily see what to localize ;) |
| 19:40.58 | ckknight | yes |
| 19:41.01 | ckknight | that's what I do. |
| 19:41.29 | ckknight | but some people don't do this, apparently |
| 19:42.04 | ckknight | and why did you put it above the -- Burning Crusade comment, vhaarr? |
| 19:42.29 | vhaarr | ah, mistake |
| 19:42.32 | vhaarr | I'll move it |
| 19:42.36 | ckknight | no |
| 19:42.38 | ckknight | I'll move it. |
| 19:42.47 | vhaarr | so I shouldn't commit now? |
| 19:42.54 | ckknight | no. |
| 19:43.04 | vhaarr | well I commented out all the additions |
| 19:43.12 | vhaarr | if you shuffle them around I won't fix it again |
| 19:43.17 | ckknight | and why'd you take out Auchindoun? |
| 19:43.23 | vhaarr | I didn't |
| 19:43.43 | vhaarr | I moved it to the small section with the 4 subzone translations |
| 19:43.59 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 19:44.08 | vhaarr | it's not used currently |
| 19:44.12 | vhaarr | I filed a bug with blizzard |
| 19:44.26 | vhaarr | for that and Coilfang Reservoir |
| 19:44.39 | vhaarr | there's no text on the map when you hover them now |
| 19:45.08 | vhaarr | so instead of attaching the 4 instances to Auchindoun, I attach them to The Bone Wastes in tourist |
| 19:45.37 | vhaarr | and there's nothing to attach the coilfang instances to currently |
| 19:45.43 | vhaarr | so they only show on the continent map |
| 19:46.27 | sylvanaar | JoshBorke: something like candybars but 2d |
| 19:46.58 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15259 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2 - commented out the unlocalized zones. |
| 19:48.46 | ckknight | alright |
| 19:49.11 | ckknight | yea, vhaarr, it needs to be properly localized in Babble-Zone or missing, otherwise it'll mess up one way or another |
| 19:49.45 | vhaarr | ckknight: How? There are several zones that have the same name in enUS, deDE and frFR. |
| 19:49.58 | ckknight | yea, that's because that's how the game is. |
| 19:50.07 | vhaarr | yes so how can it mess up? |
| 19:50.16 | ckknight | but those need to be confirmed before you put them in blindly |
| 19:50.27 | vhaarr | obviously |
| 19:50.31 | ckknight | because what if you play as koKR |
| 19:50.38 | ckknight | it's not going to work in that case. |
| 19:50.40 | vhaarr | I didn't put the new entries in there thinking they were the same in all languages |
| 19:50.52 | ckknight | then you should've left em commented out... |
| 19:51.14 | vhaarr | I disagree, obviously, since I didn't do that. |
| 19:51.26 | vhaarr | strictness will break locales completely now? |
| 19:51.39 | vhaarr | but instead, leaving them there as enUS would not break anything |
| 19:52.05 | ckknight | it's supposed to break. |
| 19:52.18 | ckknight | that's how people know to update Babble |
| 19:53.02 | vhaarr | I would've just watched the SVN log |
| 19:53.17 | vhaarr | your "..." suggest it should be obvious to me that when I check in something I should break the other locales |
| 19:53.52 | ckknight | well, I admire your help, I really do |
| 19:53.56 | ckknight | and now you know for next time |
| 19:54.08 | ckknight | that's all |
| 19:54.32 | vhaarr | yep |
| 19:54.58 | CIA-17 | 03ag 07TBC * r15260 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: Created ag_GroupClass.lua, added to TOC - currently empty file though |
| 19:55.04 | ckknight | alright, I'm gonna hack up TouristLib |
| 19:55.09 | ag` | bleh, how do I add a new file to an SVN commit using the command line client |
| 19:55.26 | ag` | that didn't seem to work |
| 19:55.33 | vhaarr | ckknight: Did I make any mistakes in tourist? |
| 19:55.41 | ckknight | not to my knowledge |
| 19:55.42 | vhaarr | ckknight: Or are you going to refactor stuff |
| 19:55.47 | Saroz | ag`, give TTT plx |
| 19:55.47 | ckknight | granted, I haven't tested in WoW |
| 19:55.55 | ckknight | I'm gonna refactor stuff, work on efficiency |
| 19:55.56 | vhaarr | works for me on enUS |
| 19:55.58 | vhaarr | nice |
| 19:56.07 | ckknight | also, you mentioned wanting to know raid size |
| 19:56.13 | vhaarr | ckknight: maybe think about supporting Raid, 5-man, 10-man, X-man, etc. |
| 19:56.17 | vhaarr | while you're at it |
| 19:56.38 | ckknight | what's the difference between Raid and 40-man? |
| 19:56.42 | ckknight | I don't raid, sorry |
| 19:56.45 | ckknight | I'm just a coder |
| 19:56.47 | vhaarr | Raid in TBC is 25man max. |
| 19:56.55 | vhaarr | While up to now it has been 10-40. |
| 19:57.25 | vhaarr | problem is, I don't know what blizzard qualify the current 40-man instances as |
| 19:57.32 | tigg | vhaarr: deDE update for closetgnome http://www.tf.uni-kiel.de/~tig/ClosetGnome_deDEupdate.patch |
| 19:57.41 | ag` | come on, somebody must use a command line SVN client other than me :) I added a new file to my working copy, how do I get it to add that file on commit? |
| 19:57.42 | vhaarr | tigg: You don't have SVN access? |
| 19:57.50 | vhaarr | ag`: svn add? |
| 19:57.58 | ag` | vhaarr: thanks |
| 19:58.00 | tigg | vhaarr: i dont have |
| 19:58.02 | Saroz | svn add |
| 19:58.04 | Saroz | svn commit |
| 19:58.19 | vhaarr | tigg: Gamefaq is deDE |
| 19:58.24 | vhaarr | tigg: do you know him? |
| 19:58.37 | tigg | well, saw some commits of him |
| 19:58.42 | vhaarr | please talk to him |
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| 19:58.48 | vhaarr | and let him screen your patches and commit them |
| 19:58.54 | CIA-17 | 03ag 07TBC * r15261 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_GroupClass.lua: |
| 19:58.54 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 19:58.54 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.03 | Saroz | TTT plx! |
| 19:59.14 | ag` | Mmm yes |
| 19:59.25 | tigg | vhaarr: fine, I can do this |
| 19:59.27 | ag` | but I am not sure how to handle all those target frames |
| 19:59.28 | ckknight | vhaarr, wouldn't you call the currently 40-man instances 40-man? |
| 19:59.31 | pastamancer | we have the patches, we can do this! |
| 19:59.40 | Saroz | just copy TT for TTT |
| 19:59.40 | ag` | currently I have a frame+object for each unit |
| 19:59.48 | ag` | so what if people tell me,: |
| 19:59.49 | vhaarr | ckknight: Personally I call them Raid instances. |
| 19:59.49 | ckknight | and so we have 5-man, 10-man, 20-man, 25-man, and 40-man |
| 19:59.56 | vhaarr | ckknight: Basically anything 20+ is Raid. |
| 20:00.09 | ckknight | but for Tourist-2.0's sake, I'm saying. |
| 20:00.13 | vhaarr | ckknight: UBRS used to be max. 15, for example, and noone ever classified it as a raid zone. |
| 20:00.15 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: question about statusbars, how do you make them vertical? |
| 20:00.26 | ag` | omg plz add for i=1,40 do raid.."i"..target end |
| 20:00.33 | ckknight | vhaarr, so we have, for UBRS, return 15 |
| 20:00.37 | ckknight | and for Naxx, return 40 |
| 20:00.43 | vhaarr | ckknight: No, it used to be, it is 10 now. |
| 20:00.48 | Saroz | ag`, then do that, but only load the frames if people request it |
| 20:00.49 | ckknight | so 10 |
| 20:00.50 | ckknight | whatever. |
| 20:00.53 | Saroz | as I hope you do with all frames |
| 20:00.54 | vhaarr | :P |
| 20:00.59 | ckknight | either way, it should return the number of people. |
| 20:00.59 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: :SetOrientation |
| 20:01.00 | ckknight | I'd say |
| 20:01.05 | Saroz | I don't use the aguf raid frames,so I hope they don't load |
| 20:01.05 | vhaarr | ckknight: yeah, just return the number of people |
| 20:01.09 | ag` | Saroz: yes,frames are only created when needed |
| 20:01.16 | Saroz | so nps |
| 20:01.17 | vhaarr | ckknight: and then let LocationFu worry about how to present it |
| 20:01.22 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 20:01.29 | ckknight | also, have you seen FuBar_RecZone? |
| 20:01.31 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: SetOrientation('vertical') then set it so that the 'left' is the bottom? |
| 20:01.33 | vhaarr | no |
| 20:01.33 | ckknight | it has walk paths. |
| 20:01.37 | ckknight | I want to steal that. |
| 20:01.44 | ckknight | I stole continents from it. |
| 20:01.46 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: :SetOrientation("VERTICAL") had to look it up |
| 20:01.58 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: wowwiki isn'l liking me atm |
| 20:02.14 | vhaarr | ckknight: Walk paths? |
| 20:02.17 | pastamancer | you call SetPoints just like normal |
| 20:02.25 | ckknight | vhaarr, basically, how to get from one place to another |
| 20:02.31 | ckknight | by walking or taking a zep |
| 20:02.33 | ckknight | or boat |
| 20:02.38 | vhaarr | ckknight: overlay on the map? |
| 20:02.41 | vhaarr | aha |
| 20:03.01 | ckknight | lemme get you a screenie |
| 20:03.18 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: and by default it looks 'filled' when 100 and empty when 0 (i don't have access to wow to test atm). ie it grows up? |
| 20:03.27 | pastamancer | yes |
| 20:03.49 | pastamancer | for Grid we had to swap the bar texture and the background texture to make it "grow" down |
| 20:04.48 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15262 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: FuBar_LocationFu - now checks level > 0 instead of level ~= -6 |
| 20:05.00 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 20:05.02 | JoshBorke | what's cheaper? |
| 20:05.09 | JoshBorke | SetPoint/SetHeight/SetValue? |
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| 20:05.36 | pastamancer | I'd guess SetValue |
| 20:05.44 | JoshBorke | really... |
| 20:06.00 | pastamancer | but I have no idea |
| 20:06.03 | pastamancer | so it's just a guess |
| 20:06.15 | JoshBorke | where's iriel when you need him... |
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| 20:07.16 | ckknight | vhaarr, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full4039.jpg |
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| 20:08.04 | vhaarr | ckknight: that's pretty nice |
| 20:08.08 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:08.15 | ckknight | it doesn't use Tourist, though |
| 20:08.19 | ckknight | it has all its data in itself |
| 20:08.24 | ckknight | which is icky, imo |
| 20:08.32 | ckknight | I like Tourist because not just LocationFu can use it |
| 20:08.40 | vhaarr | of course |
| 20:09.06 | ckknight | such as QuestFu |
| 20:09.15 | ckknight | it's nice to have the headers show the level of the zone |
| 20:09.16 | ckknight | and such. |
| 20:10.42 | ckknight | ah, hell, beta's offline |
| 20:11.00 | ckknight | at least for EU |
| 20:11.01 | ckknight | oh well |
| 20:11.08 | ckknight | I'm gonna commit and hope the world didn't fall |
| 20:11.16 | ckknight | doesn't* |
| 20:12.26 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15263 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0 - optimizations |
| 20:14.07 | Tekkub | øffe |
| 20:14.43 | cubicool | ckknight: In that screeny you just posted, is that a FuBar module? |
| 20:14.49 | ckknight | yes |
| 20:14.59 | ckknight | I'm going to steal its rich, creamy center. |
| 20:15.01 | Mikma | lol fubar |
| 20:15.04 | Mikma | it's teh suck |
| 20:15.07 | ckknight | it'll be part of LocationFu soon enough |
| 20:15.08 | ckknight | wtf, Mikma |
| 20:15.10 | Mikma | use TITAAAANS! |
| 20:15.13 | ckknight | your mom's the suck. |
| 20:15.22 | Mikma | ~emulate ckknight |
| 20:15.23 | purl | f*ck you, guy |
| 20:15.36 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:16.00 | Mikma | ckknight: now get the botmessage i sent you? ;) |
| 20:18.17 | ckknight | nope |
| 20:18.50 | Mikma | gah, well i was just copying your words :D |
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| 20:21.09 | ckknight | Prophy? is that like Prussia? you know, when Russia went "P" |
| 20:25.29 | Kemayo | [Ammo]: Thanks for tweaking ToFu's BigWigs stuff. I've never actually used BigWigs myself, so I had no idea how it was working. :) |
| 20:26.32 | ckknight | alright, I'll work on Tourist when I get to school |
| 20:26.48 | ckknight | my goal today is to have the raid size and walk paths |
| 20:27.35 | ckknight | if anyone else can think of any interesting and useful information to add to zones/instances, I'd be happy to hear it :-P |
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| 20:33.00 | leech2k | is wowwiki screwed up today? |
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| 20:34.56 | ag` | ckknight: loot :P |
| 20:35.33 | Mikma | leech2k: yes |
| 20:35.48 | haste | works here |
| 20:36.54 | Mikma | slow tho |
| 20:37.20 | leech2k | its pretty random for me works like 1 in 5 tries :-( |
| 20:39.12 | Mikma | i need to find a way of knowing if uiscale has been changed |
| 20:39.20 | Mikma | is there a event for that? |
| 20:39.50 | sylvanaar | so since it was being discussed - zone information, what can replace alphamap/atlas + atlasloot + atlasquest |
| 20:40.21 | yacoob | sylvanaar, metamap *grin, duck&run* |
| 20:40.25 | yacoob | but seriously, new yatlas should be able to. But it's not out yet |
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| 20:41.50 | Arrowmaster | is there a way to make it so the 'display combat text' option in aguf for target frame only shows damage you do? |
| 20:42.54 | Cheads | hmm hmm annoying... my fabur disappears when I enable lastest fizzle/ora2/FuBar_MoneyFu/BigWigs ... seems like it's AceHook-2.1 |
| 20:43.50 | yacoob | your WHAT? :> |
| 20:44.50 | Cheads | fubar =) |
| 20:46.19 | Tekkub | Example: "I googled him on Yahoo and he seems pretty interesting." |
| 20:46.19 | Tekkub | Our lawyers say: Bad. Very, very bad. You can only "Google" on the Google search engine. If you absolutely must use one of our competitors, please feel free to "search" on Yahoo or any other search engine. |
| 20:46.25 | Tekkub | poor google lawyers |
| 20:47.21 | pastamancer | you can't xerox a xerox on a xerox! |
| 20:49.30 | Mikma | there seems to be some very loud party going on upstairs |
| 20:49.39 | Mikma | going to have a really interesting night |
| 20:50.50 | Mikma | Tekkub: 'googled him on yahoo'? the guys on dopes |
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| 20:55.56 | Mikma | gn all see ya tomorrow |
| 21:01.23 | sylvanaar | el oh el |
| 21:03.00 | sylvanaar | Addon Updating guide http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2803.0 |
| 21:03.23 | sylvanaar | oops mt |
| 21:04.53 | sylvanaar | everyone saw the wow knowledgebase link? |
| 21:05.15 | |Pixel| | myeah, so what ? :P |
| 21:05.23 | sylvanaar | WoW Forums -> In-Game Knowledge Base http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1030472&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 21:05.36 | Kirkburn | I like bluetracker more :P |
| 21:05.36 | Kirkburn | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/beta/1030472.htm |
| 21:06.23 | |Pixel| | don't tell me you are -really- interested by this knowledge base crap ? |
| 21:07.22 | sylvanaar | everyone is cranky today |
| 21:08.06 | |Pixel| | come on, they just keep on annoying me with that IGKB stuff... |
| 21:08.22 | |Pixel| | "yaddayadda, this has to be online today at 10am exactly!" |
| 21:08.47 | |Pixel| | "no! we did a mistake! there are 9 hours shift from EU to US! it has to be online at 11am! not before!" |
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| 21:11.55 | sylvanaar | so, anyone know off the top of thier head - aceevent - does it not do its own event dispatching to translate 1 incoming event into many outgoing. |
| 21:13.09 | ag` | pastamancer: |
| 21:13.20 | ag` | you there? |
| 21:13.53 | ag` | sylvanaar: I would be 99% certain that it registers an event once and then sends it to ace2 addons |
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| 21:15.21 | sylvanaar | ag`: i was too but the aguf thread confused me |
| 21:15.29 | haste | ah |
| 21:15.38 | haste | love the end of the Thaddius encouter |
| 21:15.40 | pastamancer | ag`: yeah |
| 21:15.44 | haste | "wee, he died" *BZZZZT* |
| 21:16.35 | pastamancer | I'm up to my elbows in a solaris server, so I may be a bit slow to respond |
| 21:16.38 | ag` | pastamancer: How do I do something OnLoad for secure party/raid header -- they already have an onload script in the template |
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| 21:17.04 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1715.1420 |
| 21:17.12 | pastamancer | hmm, for the header itself? |
| 21:17.30 | pastamancer | for the header, I'd fiddle with it right after CreateFrame |
| 21:17.35 | ag` | I want to fire a command on creation of the frame |
| 21:17.58 | ag` | hook CreateFrame? Sounds ugly |
| 21:18.14 | krka | shouldn't be so bad |
| 21:18.21 | pastamancer | no |
| 21:18.25 | krka | but you can't be sure to catch all creations of frames though |
| 21:18.28 | ag` | for the normal units I can just use an OnLoad script |
| 21:18.37 | krka | someone might have done local CreateFrame = CreateFrame before you hook it |
| 21:18.41 | pastamancer | I'm not sure what exactly your'e trying to do |
| 21:18.43 | krka | then you wouldn't catch those |
| 21:18.51 | pastamancer | Hooking create frame is a bad idea |
| 21:19.01 | ag` | pastamancer: I want to create an AceOO object when a secure header is created |
| 21:19.06 | ag` | like I do for unit frames |
| 21:19.33 | pastamancer | you'll have to have the object create the header frame rather than have the frame create the object |
| 21:19.44 | pastamancer | take a look at GridLayout.lua in the TBC branch |
| 21:20.04 | ag` | Ah yes, it's actually what I do in wow vanilla atm |
| 21:20.19 | ag` | I just wanted it the other way around because that's the way I had to do with the unit frames in BC |
| 21:20.44 | pastamancer | it's inconsistent, but it appears to be the only way to do it |
| 21:21.01 | ag` | Yes... But for the headers, it doesn't really matter |
| 21:21.22 | ag` | you just need to do it for the unit frames because you don't control the creation of the frames |
| 21:21.27 | pastamancer | yeah |
| 21:23.34 | ag` | if you hide a secure header |
| 21:23.36 | ag` | will it break? |
| 21:23.43 | pastamancer | no, it just goes to sleep |
| 21:23.52 | ag` | yeah that's what I meant |
| 21:24.03 | ag` | that means that I can't use my header frame as an anchor |
| 21:24.04 | pastamancer | it won't update unless it's visible |
| 21:24.17 | ag` | I just have to have a 1x1 no texture header then |
| 21:24.38 | pastamancer | why? |
| 21:24.52 | ag` | because I don't want the header disabled when hidden |
| 21:25.00 | ag` | I want an anchor that can be shown/hidden |
| 21:25.09 | pastamancer | ah, ok |
| 21:25.39 | Kalamadi | OMG TEH FROOT. |
| 21:25.47 | Kalamadi | 'afternoon, guys. |
| 21:26.12 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit 07Rabbit * r15264 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFu.lua: FuBar_ReagentFu: TBC-compatible. |
| 21:26.21 | pastamancer | ag`: I assume you've already noticed that the SecureRaidHeader needs to be created with a name rather than just nil? |
| 21:27.00 | ag` | yes, frames created from it will inherit it's name |
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| 21:36.39 | haste | nice, on the EU rogue forums |
| 21:36.48 | haste | there's a add ons thread |
| 21:37.02 | haste | and Gnoffbar is tagged as "heavy" in ram usage |
| 21:37.06 | haste | and KTM isn't :D |
| 21:37.14 | ag` | Gnoffbar? |
| 21:37.14 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 21:38.10 | haste | Gonffbar* |
| 21:38.11 | haste | happy ? |
| 21:39.34 | ag` | no, I was asking what it was |
| 21:39.46 | ag` | it wasn't a shot at your spelling, I don't even know the addon |
| 21:39.48 | ag` | :P |
| 21:40.18 | haste | Bascily a energy ticker |
| 21:40.18 | ag` | okay |
| 21:40.50 | omega__ | and combopoints shower |
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| 21:41.31 | haste | It's not memory heavy tho' |
| 21:42.06 | doktoreas | mate anyone got prblem with current oRA2? |
| 21:42.18 | Tekkub | mate? |
| 21:42.23 | Tekkub | (Yes, please) |
| 21:42.52 | doktoreas | ? |
| 21:43.12 | haste | hahaha |
| 21:43.34 | pastamancer | perverts |
| 21:43.36 | pastamancer | :p |
| 21:43.44 | haste | ~haste |
| 21:43.45 | purl | hmm... haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo. |
| 21:43.57 | Funkeh` | LOL |
| 21:44.07 | steino_ | haste makes fapping contests on vent |
| 21:44.11 | haste | ~emulate ag` |
| 21:44.12 | purl | No, that can't be my bug. Disable all your addons, delete your WTF, empty your trashbin, wash the dog and throw a magnet on your harddrive. Oh, you still get the bug? Ok, I'll take a look at it |
| 21:44.16 | steino_ | and challanges ppl to fap-downs |
| 21:44.21 | haste | haha |
| 21:44.31 | haste | I made moori say she wanted loli today |
| 21:44.32 | haste | I win |
| 21:44.35 | steino_ | haha |
| 21:44.39 | steino_ | so true |
| 21:44.41 | steino_ | and ye |
| 21:44.51 | steino_ | did you hear that moan she did last night? |
| 21:44.59 | haste | yeh |
| 21:45.13 | steino_ | i bet it was loli! |
| 21:49.12 | ag` | -_-;; |
| 21:52.47 | Arrowmaster | i think i need to upgrade my computer, even aguf is effecting my fps in combat |
| 21:53.09 | vhaarr | who said agUF was light? |
| 21:53.50 | Arrowmaster | well i cant seem to find any unitframe mod that i like that doesnt effect my fps |
| 21:54.32 | yacoob | agUF does? |
| 21:57.10 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r15265 10oSkin/ (AOElements.lua CharacterFrames2.lua NPCFrames.lua oSkin.toc): oSkin: Fixed FramesResized... bug, moved Tradeskill and Craft Frames to CharacterFrames2 from NPCFrames |
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| 22:08.21 | Tekkub | "so its like herm" <--- proof that the education system in Arkansas is, like, shit |
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| 22:08.36 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:08.42 | Tekkub | shutup ckk |
| 22:08.44 | Asniper | quick question: anyone having issues with xloot not actually showing up? but options and all are there |
| 22:08.47 | snurre | ey! |
| 22:08.49 | ckknight | fuck you, guy |
| 22:08.56 | ckknight | mmm... had to write a paper on globalization |
| 22:08.58 | snurre | framesresized a part of oskin now? |
| 22:09.07 | Tekkub | all ready, have at it |
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| 22:12.09 | Asniper | eek, I hate updating mods when they break each toher :/ |
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| 22:20.01 | usz | why does AceComm prints into chat frame name of every person who joins custom channel? |
| 22:20.37 | Kalamadi | Debug? |
| 22:20.57 | usz | nope |
| 22:21.07 | usz | it just calls: AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print(user, "joined") |
| 22:21.33 | Kalamadi | ...similar |
| 22:22.07 | usz | but seems like some left out debug code ^^ |
| 22:24.03 | vhaarr | ckknight: Tourist could map bosses to instances. |
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| 22:25.16 | vhaarr | ckknight: If you want to add that I could fill in the tables tomorrow evening probably. |
| 22:25.31 | Tekkub | that seems more like a "yellow pages" feature than tourist |
| 22:25.40 | vhaarr | tourist is yellow pages? |
| 22:25.45 | Tekkub | *shrug* |
| 22:26.08 | Tekkub | just make sure you seperate by wing :) |
| 22:26.58 | omega__ | snurre: did you ever play anarchy online? |
| 22:27.06 | snurre | too much :( |
| 22:27.20 | omega__ | a doc by any chance? |
| 22:27.41 | snurre | some, yes |
| 22:27.51 | omega__ | think I remember a DrSnurre or something from the doc-forums |
| 22:27.51 | snurre | never hit 220 with him tho |
| 22:28.03 | snurre | yeh, that's me |
| 22:28.04 | omega__ | the name is familiar atleast |
| 22:28.18 | omega__ | cool |
| 22:28.18 | omega__ | hehe |
| 22:28.32 | omega__ | its crazy what sticks to ones mind sometimes |
| 22:28.35 | snurre | :p |
| 22:28.37 | snurre | was shade professional for about a year.. my doc only got 218 before i got banned |
| 22:28.46 | omega__ | banned? |
| 22:28.54 | snurre | yep |
| 22:28.55 | snurre | http://home.no/lussebass/aoforums.jpg |
| 22:29.01 | Tekkub | hey ckk |
| 22:29.18 | omega__ | hah |
| 22:29.19 | omega__ | None |
| 22:29.21 | omega__ | Never |
| 22:29.21 | omega__ | nice |
| 22:29.21 | Tekkub | empty tablets with only titles like to truncate... |
| 22:29.29 | Tekkub | "Amm..." |
| 22:32.37 | vhaarr | ckknight: [2006/10/27 00:31:57-152]: Tourist-2.0\Tourist-2.0.lua:1067: attempt to index local 'instances' (a string value) |
| 22:34.46 | omega__ | well, gnite everyone |
| 22:34.55 | omega__ | its strange how every night it gets too late :) |
| 22:35.35 | Saroz | wowwiki is uber slow atm |
| 22:35.58 | Arrowmaster | i cant get on the us forums |
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| 22:54.23 | usz | okay, think i managed to fix AceComm CUSTOM distribution, there were 2 minor bugs preventing it from unregistering when UnregisterAllComms was called |
| 22:57.51 | sylvanaar | have people been reporting big game stalls on login recently? as in past 2-3 days? |
| 23:04.06 | Neebler | government conspiracy |
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| 23:08.42 | Tekkub | OMG WoWWiki is the downz! |
| 23:08.58 | Saroz | yus |
| 23:09.00 | Saroz | me is lost |
| 23:09.02 | Saroz | ./wrist |
| 23:09.20 | Tekkub | is there some API call to find out the realm type? |
| 23:09.26 | Tekkub | oh wait it's back |
| 23:10.12 | Tekkub | ...kindof |
| 23:11.38 | sylvanaar | yah almost want to get a local mirror of wowwikki |
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| 23:12.53 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 23:12.59 | sylvanaar | the google cache is just as slow too for some reason |
| 23:13.06 | Kirkburn | I doubt the wiki will be back until the forums are back |
| 23:13.17 | Kirkburn | It's such a sensitive little beast |
| 23:13.29 | Kirkburn | *sniffle* |
| 23:13.40 | Kirkburn | What am I supposed to do with my day if not revert and ban people?! |
| 23:14.09 | Kirkburn | It's not as if I contribute to it :P |
| 23:15.08 | vhaarr | rofl, I remember from level 1-20 I was always wondering "why is his name green? I want a green name!", and have always played on a PvP realm. Now that I transferred my 60 priest to the beta PvE realm, I'm always baffled when I see a blue name and like "wtf, how did he do that?" |
| 23:15.11 | vhaarr | :( |
| 23:16.21 | vhaarr | I wish Blizzard weren't so adamant about their server transfers, how the fuck should I know what playing on a PvP realm was like. |
| 23:16.23 | Neebler | blizzard needs to enlighten people about the /pvp command |
| 23:16.35 | Kirkburn | If anyone doesn't actually know why the forums are down, and apoligies for the slight spam: |
| 23:16.35 | Kirkburn | In order to alleviate the load that our web database has been experiencing as of late, we will be migrating the forums to a separate database tomorrow beginning at 10:00 AM PDT. This maintenance is scheduled to last for approximately eight hours, during which time the forums will be completely unavailable. When this maintenance concludes, both the forums and website should run much more smoothly and remain significantly |
| 23:16.35 | Kirkburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.51 | alcaras | what forums are down again?! |
| 23:16.51 | eternally777 | nooooooooooooo |
| 23:17.01 | eternally777 | ~wrists |
| 23:17.11 | purl | Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road! http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/makeitcount.jpg |
| 23:17.11 | alcaras | weren't they just down to be more stable a few weeks ago? |
| 23:17.11 | Kirkburn | The forums have been down most of the day - what planet were you on? |
| 23:17.16 | alcaras | ah, beta forums are still up |
| 23:17.21 | alcaras | yes! they decoupled beta forums from live fourms |
| 23:17.23 | alcaras | :D |
| 23:17.44 | Kirkburn | And now they're decoupling the forums from the website |
| 23:18.00 | Kirkburn | I can't believe they had them together still :/ |
| 23:18.32 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r15266 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (FuBar_Regen.lua FuBar_RegenLocal-enUS.lua): FuBar_RegenFu: Allow configuration of the basic regen forumula parameters manually. FR Localization needs some new strings added still. |
| 23:18.33 | Tekkub | why can't you? |
| 23:18.57 | Saroz | sylvanaar, can you add an option to show how much mana you regged in this fight, in the fubar text? |
| 23:19.00 | Saroz | or want me to add it? :) |
| 23:19.04 | Kirkburn | Because of the trouble it has caused for the last two years!? |
| 23:19.51 | sylvanaar | Saroz: sure |
| 23:22.12 | sylvanaar | Saroz: let me think of a clean way to add it |
| 23:22.41 | Saroz | just pull data as done with current "Show MP" feature? |
| 23:23.24 | Saroz | what does FSR stand for btw? |
| 23:24.19 | Armooo | five second rule |
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| 23:25.29 | Saroz | ah |
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| 23:33.07 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r15267 10oSkin/AOElements.lua: oSkin: Fixed SuperMacro Skinning issues |
| 23:40.46 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15268 10MountMe/ (Core.lua EzDismount.lua ItemSwap.lua): MountMe - Added AceConsole tables with lots of nifty options |
| 23:41.07 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15269 10MountMe/ (Libs/ MountMe.toc): MountMe - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed) |
| 23:41.11 | sylvanaar | Saroz: I added an option to display in combat regen total, its on the tooltip also |
| 23:41.35 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15270 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0: Caverns of Time is 64-70. Removed CoT from pre-expansion (listed as 43-61?). |
| 23:43.17 | Saroz | it was already in, as Show MP option? |
| 23:43.27 | Saroz | ehh, I mean, last fight |
| 23:43.33 | Nickenyfiken | http://chatzilla.hacksrus.com/faq/#irc |
| 23:43.38 | Nickenyfiken | ops :-P |
| 23:43.56 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15271 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0: Zul'Aman is 70-70. |
| 23:44.24 | kergoth | Nickenyfiken: ? |
| 23:45.01 | Nickenyfiken | pasted in wrong window |
| 23:45.13 | Fudge | Nickenyfiken, you're such a cheeky monkey. |
| 23:46.16 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 23:47.12 | JoshBorke | hola! |
| 23:47.34 | Kirkburn | Ciao! |
| 23:47.52 | Kirkburn | (yesthatmeanshelloaswellasgoodbye!) |
| 23:48.00 | JoshBorke | Kirkburn: i know ;-) |
| 23:48.14 | Kirkburn | I know, I was allaying the masses |
| 23:50.05 | Kirkburn | WoWWiki is back! |
| 23:50.30 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15272 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: .Tourist-2.0: Add continent information to the newly added instances. |
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