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| 00:04.11 | doktoreas | hi to all mates |
| 00:04.12 | eternally777 | Tekkub: it doesn't show recursive table contents? |
| 00:04.15 | doktoreas | omega__, are you around? |
| 00:04.26 | Tekkub | not automatically, for very good reason |
| 00:04.33 | Tekkub | you have to traverse the table :P |
| 00:05.14 | eternally777 | bah :P |
| 00:06.22 | hugo | hi |
| 00:06.57 | hugo | by the way just remember that i tried download Nanostats2 like month ago but error file not found , i tried today and still same, so just remembered :D |
| 00:08.07 | hugo | thru winaceupdater i mean |
| 00:08.39 | Kalamadi | Is there a process of updating legendary weapons in the expansion? |
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| 00:12.24 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:12.30 | ckknight | alright, no longer busy |
| 00:12.35 | ckknight | ag`, what was your issue? |
| 00:13.58 | hugo | hi ckknight |
| 00:14.12 | hugo | guys anyone here tested nanostats2 ? |
| 00:14.59 | hugo | i used the "lock" check button and now i can't get up the menu :D tried /ns2 config lock and so .. nothing work tried ctrl right click frame too |
| 00:15.37 | hugo | got it! ctrl + 2x right click :D |
| 00:15.48 | hugo | er alt i mean |
| 00:19.03 | hugo | :D on now after my discovery on how to recall menu i figured out the addon dont work all :-o it should show my healing and damage and it does nothin just says Nanostats2 in the window ? |
| 00:21.34 | hugo | :| |
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| 00:34.44 | ckknight | I have an issue: I need to hook ChatFrame_OnEvent to stop some events from showing (such as joining the AceComm channel), but if I do that in TBC, it prevents EXECUTE_CHAT_LINE from working correctly |
| 00:34.49 | ckknight | anyone have a solution? |
| 00:34.55 | ckknight | I can't really hook ChatFrame1.AddMessage, cause it doesn't catch everything... |
| 00:37.21 | Tekkub | hrm... that's nasty |
| 00:37.35 | Tekkub | maybe you should ask them to move the execute elsewhere |
| 00:37.51 | Tekkub | cause a lot of people hook that onevent to filter out shit |
| 00:38.35 | ckknight | well, how do you propose I handle it? |
| 00:39.08 | Tekkub | really the best solution is that blizzard move secure stuff off that onevent handler |
| 00:39.26 | Tekkub | we have a lot of valid reasons to hook that and modify it's execution |
| 00:39.31 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:39.35 | Tekkub | we NEED that taint there |
| 00:39.37 | ckknight | will request, then |
| 00:39.58 | Tekkub | that event handler is a big mess as it is |
| 00:40.10 | Tekkub | it's like one big do-all conglomo-handler |
| 00:40.56 | Tekkub | link me your forum post, if I can post to it |
| 00:41.04 | Tekkub | I'll back it up with my reasons :) |
| 00:41.36 | ckknight | omg Tek! |
| 00:41.43 | ckknight | Added MODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED event. |
| 00:41.43 | ckknight | event = MODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED |
| 00:41.43 | ckknight | arg1 = SHIFT or CTRL or ALT |
| 00:41.43 | ckknight | arg2 = 1 for down, 0 for up |
| 00:41.43 | ckknight | The state headers can be driven by modifier key state changes. |
| 00:41.55 | ckknight | bye bye SEEmbed-Keys |
| 00:41.59 | Tekkub | make sense? |
| 00:42.02 | Tekkub | mt |
| 00:42.17 | Tekkub | :) |
| 00:42.26 | ckknight | I understand what you're saying, I'm gonna make a post |
| 00:42.40 | Tekkub | yea now we need slot changed values on BAG_UPDATE |
| 00:42.55 | Tekkub | that kills most of SE except auras |
| 00:44.02 | ckknight | and we need an IsSwimming() and IsMounted() |
| 00:44.03 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:44.48 | weab | at least there's a way to find out if you're mouted |
| 00:44.55 | ckknight | but it's icky. |
| 00:45.00 | weab | i still can't believe there is no IsSwimming() |
| 00:46.24 | Tekkub | well, movement |
| 00:46.28 | Tekkub | and swimming |
| 00:46.34 | Tekkub | mount is easy to catch |
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| 00:46.55 | weab | although i'm glad they're finally making buffs automatically pick the right rank if the target is too low to receive your highest. i had been suggesting that since the early days of beta |
| 00:47.12 | Tekkub | they only did it cause they had to |
| 00:47.26 | Tekkub | in the past a mod could do it, why should they waste time implementing it |
| 00:48.02 | Jagobah | Who uses OCB |
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| 00:48.08 | Jagobah | and knows how to disable the mirror bar |
| 00:48.20 | weab | mods can only kinda do it |
| 00:48.41 | weab | have to have them targetted :p |
| 00:48.52 | ckknight | Hey there, I'm the author of AceComm-2.0, and I've run into a horrid bug with regards to WoW 2.0''s tainting issues. |
| 00:48.52 | ckknight | I'm hooking ChatFrame_OnEvent to filter out hidden channel joins, but this causes the taint to be extended to its handling of EXECUTE_CHAT_LINE. Either way, it prevents /assist from working properly. |
| 00:48.52 | ckknight | Please, many authors hook ChatFrame_OnEvent, so please take out all the secure function calls to prevent /assist and such from working. |
| 00:48.55 | ckknight | think that's good? |
| 00:49.42 | Tekkub | "many authors hook... to filter out specific text from appearing in the chat frames" |
| 00:49.43 | ckknight | should anything be added/taken away? |
| 00:50.07 | ckknight | okay. |
| 00:50.09 | ckknight | added that |
| 00:50.28 | Tekkub | "Please allow us to continue to hook this function in an in-secure manner and move all secure calls to another handler" |
| 00:50.44 | ckknight | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=36975623&postId=393604174&sid=1#37 |
| 00:51.09 | ckknight | k, added that bit |
| 00:52.39 | Amadeo | Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it |
| 00:52.41 | Industrial | tee hee ab 5 mins |
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| 00:54.02 | ckknight | gonna eat |
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| 01:01.27 | Jagobah | nvm |
| 01:04.29 | Thiana | Question for the windows users. Is there some program which allows you to have multiple dos windows in a single frame (ie, with tabs for each window) |
| 01:04.48 | cladhaire | i dont have enough money to but my new mbp |
| 01:05.03 | cladhaire | my bf bought his today |
| 01:07.11 | Xuerian | not aware of one though surely there is, Thiana |
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| 01:09.18 | Kalamadi | Thiana: The only windowmanager I know of which does that is Fluxbox, but that's not for windows |
| 01:09.53 | Thiana | Kalamadi: It's a common feature on *nix, gnome-terminal for example. I'm looking for the windows equivalent specifically. |
| 01:10.02 | Amadeo | Windows taskbar can group similar windows, that's probably as close as I can get you |
| 01:10.21 | Meiun | hrm i think i read about something that does that :F |
| 01:10.24 | weab | as long as we're providing ideas that aren't what you asked for, iterm does that too! |
| 01:10.43 | Tain | TakeCommand from JPSoftware I think might do that. |
| 01:10.48 | Tain | But it's not free. |
| 01:11.09 | Meiun | ah |
| 01:11.09 | Amadeo | I didn't think anyone used command prompt anymore! |
| 01:11.09 | Kalamadi | Yar! |
| 01:11.10 | Meiun | http://www.anappaday.com/downloads/2006/10/day-22-jedi-window-dock.html |
| 01:11.17 | Meiun | havent tried it though^^ |
| 01:11.20 | ckknight | Thiana, if you find it, send the link my way ;-) |
| 01:11.37 | Tain | I still do as many things as possible command line. |
| 01:11.40 | Tain | Especially at work. |
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| 01:11.57 | Kalamadi | Yeah. If something goes wrong, it's much easier to figure out where :x |
| 01:12.16 | Thiana | Yay! Found one. http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=43764 |
| 01:12.19 | Amadeo | I normally only open it up if I need to do something that the UI won't let me |
| 01:12.32 | Thiana | (http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=43764) |
| 01:12.46 | Tain | After my initial big hopes for Monad (PowerShell) I'm back to being let down though. It's better than cmd.exe but really not a great interactive shell in general. |
| 01:12.47 | weab | i was just about to link that. |
| 01:13.14 | ckknight | I agree, Tain |
| 01:13.22 | Amadeo | Didn't they ditch Monad? |
| 01:13.30 | ckknight | it's called PowerShell |
| 01:13.30 | Tain | Just renamed it. |
| 01:13.39 | Amadeo | Even so, I thought they discontinued it |
| 01:13.44 | Amadeo | or something |
| 01:13.47 | Amadeo | maybe I'm thinking of something else |
| 01:13.54 | Tain | The .NET integration is a great thing. But as a shell it isn't as good as it should be. |
| 01:14.02 | Xuerian | Like most of the pumped up features for vista, it was one of the ones that tripped, iirc |
| 01:14.04 | Tain | No, they're just not packaging it with Vista like people thought they would. |
| 01:14.13 | ckknight | Tain, I don't like their for loops and such |
| 01:14.24 | ckknight | the syntax is weird |
| 01:14.25 | Amadeo | Tain: Maybe that was it |
| 01:14.26 | Tain | Yeah that was really the thing that sent me over the edge. |
| 01:14.28 | ckknight | and it's hard to manage |
| 01:14.34 | Tain | The for loops just made me angry. |
| 01:14.44 | ckknight | why can't they have for i = 1,2 do ... end |
| 01:15.03 | ckknight | no, they have to have for ($i=0;$i-lt2;$i++) { ... } |
| 01:15.05 | ckknight | ew |
| 01:15.15 | jumbali | wowace.com down? |
| 01:15.15 | Amadeo | what was their justification in doing it that way? |
| 01:15.53 | ckknight | Amadeo, it's C-like, which people are used to |
| 01:15.53 | Tain | It's just different, but there's so much to choose from out there. |
| 01:16.04 | Amadeo | was PowerShell to replace Command? |
| 01:16.25 | Tain | Why not take some of the good ideas from bash and dozens of years of proven good shells. |
| 01:16.53 | ckknight | Tain, they wanted to make it "better" |
| 01:17.12 | ckknight | also, bash and the rest worked on strings, psh works on .NET objects |
| 01:17.15 | Tain | Yeah I know. Well, no I don't think they even wanted to make it better, they just wanted to make it new. |
| 01:17.35 | ckknight | ah, I guess |
| 01:17.56 | Amadeo | MS should have packaged it with Vista, as well as WinFS and whatever else...because Vista looks kinda boring as is |
| 01:18.00 | Tain | It's so weird. Microsoft either flaunts everything to make something different just so they can make something that's Microsoft, or they just buy it and label it MS. |
| 01:18.16 | tekcub | Vista is just XP with an ugly skin |
| 01:18.26 | tekcub | oh and XP is just 2K with an ugly skin :) |
| 01:18.27 | Tain | That's not true. |
| 01:18.33 | Tain | There's also lots and lots of DRM. |
| 01:18.37 | Amadeo | tekcub: Don't forget DX10, so they can force gamers to upgrade |
| 01:18.53 | tekcub | *shrug* |
| 01:19.02 | Xuerian | So long as I can disable "features" I don't like, and get my friend to burn me a copy, I'm all for upgrading. ;) |
| 01:19.04 | tekcub | I see no reason I need to install it |
| 01:19.18 | tekcub | I ran 2k for well over a year before someone conned me into XP |
| 01:19.18 | Xuerian | tekcub: How're you enjoying 3.1? |
| 01:19.21 | Tain | I won't anytime soon. |
| 01:19.22 | Amadeo | They have all kinds of new anti-piracy measures |
| 01:19.55 | Amadeo | I think it has to check keys online now |
| 01:20.04 | Amadeo | or you run a crippled version until it does |
| 01:20.06 | ckknight | Vista has a lot of cool stuff on the backend :-P |
| 01:20.13 | weab | vista seems reasonably decent. |
| 01:20.17 | ckknight | the new driver framework et al |
| 01:20.29 | Amadeo | I was hoping for some cool changes, like...no registry! |
| 01:20.46 | weab | you were hoping for miracles |
| 01:20.52 | Amadeo | I know :( |
| 01:20.55 | Xuerian | No miracles, but some actual improvements |
| 01:21.08 | Amadeo | Getting rid of the registry would have been a miracle |
| 01:21.19 | Xuerian | Ripped off, crappily implimented, etc, etc, but improvments whatever you want to label them |
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| 01:21.46 | weab | it's certainly an improvement. i couldn't run it though, had to put xp back. too many incompatibilities still |
| 01:22.06 | Amadeo | It's not that it's a bad operating system overall, it's just an evolution of XP...not what a 5+ year total new OS should be |
| 01:22.08 | Xuerian | Sounds eerily like wow2.0 :P |
| 01:22.29 | tekcub | yea I guess taht's my main reason for not caring |
| 01:22.40 | tekcub | 5 years and my reaction is "this is it?" |
| 01:22.53 | Amadeo | I'm disappointed by that too |
| 01:22.56 | tekcub | 5 years for this? |
| 01:23.17 | Amadeo | Same feeling I had when I played EQ2 :P |
| 01:23.37 | weab | eq2 isn't that bad |
| 01:23.41 | Amadeo | I saw a damn trailer for EQ2 in a movie theater |
| 01:23.53 | Amadeo | I hated EQ2 :( |
| 01:23.56 | Tain | Taht's insane. |
| 01:23.58 | Amadeo | It might be better now |
| 01:24.03 | weab | i don't know how long ago you tried it |
| 01:24.04 | Tain | Who goes to movie theatres anymore? |
| 01:24.08 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 01:24.11 | weab | i've heard it's changed drastically |
| 01:24.19 | Amadeo | weab: When it came out, I think I had it the first day |
| 01:24.25 | Amadeo | I was a big EQ junkie |
| 01:24.34 | weab | i was a big eq junkie too |
| 01:24.44 | weab | why do you think i had absolutely NO desire to try eq2 |
| 01:24.47 | weab | :P |
| 01:24.57 | Amadeo | One of the major things that turned me off was the fact that I had to turn the graphics down to nearly nothing |
| 01:25.17 | Amadeo | Then, I found out it's kind of a fake MMORPG...like Guild Wars...they instance everything, even towns |
| 01:25.46 | tekcub | yea, too much instanciation is bad for a game |
| 01:25.50 | weab | that's not really true |
| 01:25.52 | Amadeo | Then there were the huge bugs where you couldn't get into the same instance as your party was in |
| 01:26.02 | Amadeo | It was when I played |
| 01:26.07 | weab | wow is worse with instancing than eq2 is |
| 01:26.12 | Amadeo | No way! |
| 01:26.17 | weab | yes way |
| 01:26.24 | ckknight | how's EQ2 do it? |
| 01:26.28 | Amadeo | Orgrimmar doesn't have 82 instances |
| 01:26.35 | Amadeo | ckknight: Every area is instanced |
| 01:26.40 | weab | i'm not sure what you're talking about |
| 01:26.50 | weab | it doesn't work that way anymore |
| 01:26.58 | Amadeo | Say you walk from Orgrimmar to Durotar...there would be 10 Durotars or however many players there were |
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| 01:27.11 | Amadeo | anymore? |
| 01:27.15 | Amadeo | that's a drastic change |
| 01:27.28 | weab | well, it was not like that when i played it a few months ago |
| 01:27.31 | Xuerian | I think he's trying to tell you that yes in fact there was a drastic change, maybe it's just me :P |
| 01:27.38 | Industrial | im in ur applebob tealin ur applez |
| 01:27.40 | Amadeo | I can't imagine they changed something that huge |
| 01:27.43 | Industrial | stealin* |
| 01:27.45 | Amadeo | but it was needed if they did |
| 01:28.06 | weab | i liked that there were dungeons that were designed to have several groups in |
| 01:28.13 | weab | so it's almost a public area |
| 01:28.20 | Amadeo | like old EQ? |
| 01:28.23 | weab | but not quite, since if x number of people fill it up, a new instance is made |
| 01:28.28 | Amadeo | I see |
| 01:28.34 | ckknight | Industrial, steelin* |
| 01:28.43 | Amadeo | Perhaps it *is* a better game now..but as you can see by the things I remember, it used to be horrid :) |
| 01:28.48 | Industrial | ups |
| 01:28.57 | weab | i also like the housing. completely pointless and a waste of time |
| 01:29.04 | weab | but still a fun waste of time |
| 01:29.11 | Amadeo | Better than DAoC housing? |
| 01:29.16 | weab | never played daoc |
| 01:29.18 | Industrial | daoc housing is cool |
| 01:29.25 | weab | it's just an instance |
| 01:29.27 | Amadeo | DAoC was awesome before Trials of Atlantis |
| 01:29.33 | weab | i'd like to see neighborhood instances or something |
| 01:29.38 | weab | instead of an instance for every house |
| 01:29.41 | Industrial | you have guildbanks and tradeskills vandors in it |
| 01:29.49 | Industrial | in daoc |
| 01:29.54 | weab | the guild bank is another feature i liked |
| 01:30.01 | Industrial | yeah very much |
| 01:30.07 | Industrial | and NO BINDING items |
| 01:30.11 | Industrial | i hate that in wow |
| 01:30.12 | Industrial | :| |
| 01:30.19 | weab | mentoring is also awesome |
| 01:30.28 | Amadeo | WoW took a lot from DAoC |
| 01:30.40 | Industrial | if i want level 50 items at level 19 let me |
| 01:30.41 | Industrial | :> |
| 01:30.53 | Amadeo | weab: I watched some EQ2 PvP videos...it's kind of boring looking...and weird, seeing stiff models fighting on horses |
| 01:30.59 | ckknight | I think WoW should have houses |
| 01:31.05 | ckknight | or guild manors |
| 01:31.07 | ckknight | or something. |
| 01:31.09 | Industrial | wow should also have dyes |
| 01:31.11 | weab | mentoring allows you to reduce your effective level to someone else's in your group and gives them an xp bonus |
| 01:31.12 | Xuerian | EVE wins the game for item sensibilities :P |
| 01:31.13 | Industrial | and hooded cloaks |
| 01:31.23 | Industrial | I miss dyes in wow |
| 01:31.23 | Amadeo | EVE was a bore-fest though |
| 01:31.28 | Industrial | (alchemy anyone?) |
| 01:31.34 | ckknight | a guild manor would be cool, you can't deny |
| 01:31.38 | Amadeo | it would |
| 01:31.42 | Xuerian | mmm, it was for me too, but I couldn't play in the battles |
| 01:31.49 | Amadeo | EVE had great concepts |
| 01:31.55 | Amadeo | the game would have rocked if more people got into it |
| 01:32.01 | Xuerian | It's still growing |
| 01:32.02 | Amadeo | but it was really complex compared to other MMOGs |
| 01:32.10 | weab | i didnt like eve |
| 01:32.10 | Industrial | weab: in doac its just split 50 50 |
| 01:32.13 | Xuerian | The biggest drawback is no ui scripting :p |
| 01:32.15 | Industrial | weab: in a group of 2 |
| 01:32.16 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:32.23 | Amadeo | it took like a month to figure the damn game out |
| 01:32.34 | Industrial | weab: get a level50 to kill 50 mobs and up you go level 30 in 10 mins :D |
| 01:32.45 | weab | see, that's no fun |
| 01:32.49 | Industrial | animist <3 |
| 01:32.52 | Amadeo | ahha |
| 01:32.56 | Amadeo | I was a Blademaster |
| 01:33.06 | weab | mentoring was fun. you turn yourself into a newbie and can get owned by level 6 mobs |
| 01:33.20 | Xuerian | Haha, I liked that about CoH |
| 01:33.27 | Amadeo | if I ever get a decent computer, I might try EQ2 again to see what they did to it |
| 01:33.32 | eternally777 | Star Wars: Galaxies. |
| 01:33.37 | Amadeo | I hope the UI doesn't suck like EQ's does |
| 01:33.38 | Xuerian | Mentoring and sidekicking, helped a lot keeping groups of friends together |
| 01:33.41 | Industrial | I never played eq |
| 01:34.02 | Amadeo | current EQ UI is so cluttered |
| 01:34.08 | Amadeo | you can't even figure out why there are so many windows |
| 01:34.29 | weab | don't get me wrong, there's plenty that's wrong with eq2, but there are some good concepts in it. i enjoyed it for the short time i played |
| 01:34.31 | Amadeo | I'm afraid of what EQ2 looks like in that respect |
| 01:34.55 | Amadeo | weab: Well if even those changes you mentioned are in game now, it's a HUGE improvement from when I played |
| 01:35.11 | weab | i've been told it's like a completely different game |
| 01:35.23 | weab | but i never played it until recently so i couldn't say |
| 01:35.28 | Amadeo | I bet they had to do that, since WoW was so much better and Guild Wars was free |
| 01:35.37 | Amadeo | Did you ever play Guild Wars? |
| 01:35.48 | weab | no. |
| 01:35.56 | Tain | CoH is great, you can sidekick a lower person up to your level, or they can group you down to their level. |
| 01:35.57 | Amadeo | damn, I can't even give you a good comparison then :) |
| 01:36.05 | weab | one of the programmers for guildwars was in my eq1 guild |
| 01:36.10 | weab | and he was a complete tool |
| 01:36.15 | Amadeo | haha |
| 01:36.15 | weab | so i was kinda turned off |
| 01:36.22 | weab | he never shut up about guild wars this guild wars that |
| 01:36.33 | Amadeo | I supposidly met David Brevik's wife in EQ, but I still don't know if it's true or not |
| 01:36.33 | Xuerian | Guildwars pvp was cool in beta. |
| 01:36.38 | Xuerian | Game kinda went down after that. |
| 01:36.40 | Tomed | weab - what was his name? |
| 01:36.57 | weab | god knows if i can remember his real name |
| 01:37.07 | weab | i want to say mike |
| 01:37.11 | weab | no |
| 01:37.12 | weab | derek |
| 01:37.15 | Amadeo | You know what killed Guild Wars for me? Healing > * in PvP |
| 01:37.22 | weab | last name starts with t |
| 01:37.26 | weab | that's all i remember :p |
| 01:37.28 | Tomed | yeah I think I know of him and he is an ass |
| 01:37.45 | Xuerian | Amadeo: Lol, you mean like a duo of deflection/healing monks? |
| 01:37.54 | Amadeo | yeah, if anything had *Monk in it, you were awesome |
| 01:37.54 | weab | i think he worked on programming the developer tools |
| 01:37.57 | Amadeo | if you didn't, you were worthless |
| 01:37.57 | Amadeo | haha |
| 01:38.06 | Xuerian | not really |
| 01:38.10 | CIA-17 | 03leech * r15136 10dgks/dgks.lua: dgks: Fixed another small bug with new pc/nps detection. |
| 01:38.13 | Xuerian | The downside to that *monk is you're the -first- target |
| 01:38.16 | Amadeo | maybe not NOW, but that's how it used to be :P |
| 01:38.23 | Xuerian | "ZomgI'mgonnaca-"*DIE* |
| 01:38.25 | Amadeo | and damn if I kept playing |
| 01:38.32 | Xuerian | Damnitwannahealmytea*DIE* |
| 01:38.37 | Tomed | GW development was a downward spiral after the beta :( |
| 01:38.38 | Xuerian | STOPKILLINGM*DIE* |
| 01:38.48 | Amadeo | eh |
| 01:38.51 | Amadeo | when you joined a PvP group |
| 01:38.54 | Tomed | too bad because it was an awesome game |
| 01:38.55 | Amadeo | and everyone is something/Monk |
| 01:38.58 | Amadeo | it didn't happen that way |
| 01:39.01 | Amadeo | because nobody ever died |
| 01:39.20 | weab | Tomed: how'd you know my 'friend' derek? ;p |
| 01:39.22 | Xuerian | Not so much that nobody ever died |
| 01:39.26 | Xuerian | more "nobody ever stayed dead" |
| 01:39.30 | Tomed | I was in the GW alpha for 2 years |
| 01:39.31 | Amadeo | haha |
| 01:39.46 | Tomed | we knew a lot of the devs because the alpha forums used everyone's real names |
| 01:39.50 | weab | ah. yeah he offered a bunch of us alpha invites |
| 01:39.54 | Xuerian | Untill that pet spec necro raised your entire team recursively as bone fiends |
| 01:40.04 | Tomed | what guild were you in? |
| 01:40.10 | Amadeo | weab made me want to play EQ2 again |
| 01:40.12 | weab | havenlight |
| 01:40.24 | Tain | I swore off of alpha/beta tests for games. |
| 01:40.25 | Tomed | ah, never heard of it :/ |
| 01:40.34 | Tain | They make you hate the game instead of enjoy it when it comes out. |
| 01:40.36 | Amadeo | Tain: If you get in TBC, hook me up ;) |
| 01:40.43 | weab | i don't know if they formed a guild in guild wars |
| 01:40.54 | weab | i didn't actually bother with the alpha |
| 01:41.01 | Xuerian | Agreed, Tain =\ |
| 01:41.02 | Tain | I had no interest in TBC beta. |
| 01:41.08 | Tomed | I enjoyed the beta of GW more than the actual release |
| 01:41.18 | Xuerian | And agreed, Tomed :P |
| 01:41.24 | weab | i enjoyed beta of wow more than retail :p |
| 01:41.27 | Tain | The worst part is once you are actually in betas you can get into new ones. |
| 01:41.59 | Tain | I turned down going to Middle Earth Online's offices for a 2 day playtest. :/ |
| 01:43.14 | ckknight | looking at the formulas and observed results, it seems as if WoW uses banker's rounding instead of the "normal" asymmetric rounding |
| 01:44.10 | weab | eve seemed to constantly be reminding me that it was built to waste my time |
| 01:44.49 | weab | i mean, all mmo's are, but the good ones at least try to hide it or convince you you're having fun |
| 01:45.12 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 01:45.14 | Amadeo | EVE was SO slow |
| 01:45.25 | Amadeo | It didn't matter if you played 24 hours a day, things progressed at the same rate |
| 01:45.34 | Xuerian | It's tedius, but I felt a lot more accomplishment when I actually broke down and hand-tallyed a list of all the salvage I had gathered, minerals I had ninjas, rewards I had recieved in various stations, had them collected, and bought a phallic cruiser :P |
| 01:45.43 | Tain | I love Eve |
| 01:45.48 | Tomed | i know people that sware by Eve but i honestly don't see how it could be fun |
| 01:45.52 | weab | that was the most frustrating part of it |
| 01:45.57 | Xuerian | Then again loosing it to fucking pirates was a bitch. |
| 01:45.59 | Tomed | plus you need a huge amount of people just to establish yourself |
| 01:46.02 | Amadeo | EVE is fun when you start fighting |
| 01:46.08 | Amadeo | but mining is awful |
| 01:46.16 | Tain | There is *nothing* like massive battles in Eve. |
| 01:46.18 | weab | no matter how hard i did or didn't try, it'd take the same amount of time to learn new skills |
| 01:46.24 | Amadeo | I had some pirate players chase me into a space station once |
| 01:46.30 | Amadeo | they tried to make me pay them |
| 01:46.36 | Amadeo | haha |
| 01:46.40 | Xuerian | Weab: And it actually made -sense- how you learned the skills, too :P |
| 01:46.40 | Tain | There's no PVP out there that even compares to huge battles in Eve. |
| 01:46.49 | weab | it did? |
| 01:46.59 | Amadeo | Tain: Nor the penalty involved in dying |
| 01:47.06 | weab | doing absolutely nothing to earn skills makes sense? |
| 01:47.23 | Tain | Yeah well the lack of a death penalty is one of the big problems with MMORPGS in my opinion. |
| 01:47.29 | Xuerian | If your brain was wired as the mainfraim of a ship, softloading information into it at a steady rate makes more sense than walking up to a trainer, and in .2 sec, learning a new ability |
| 01:47.31 | Amadeo | I think so too |
| 01:47.53 | ckknight | death penalty? |
| 01:47.54 | Amadeo | Neo? Is that you? |
| 01:48.06 | weab | ok, that's not an answer |
| 01:48.08 | Xuerian | EVE makes a lot more sense if you read all the backstory and lore on their site |
| 01:48.08 | weab | that's a deflection |
| 01:48.19 | Tain | That is one of the things that's nice about Eve though. |
| 01:48.26 | Kalamadi | Good god. My guild has been jammering over Arlokk for *fifteen minutes* |
| 01:48.30 | Amadeo | ckknight: If you had your ship destroyed in EVE, you lost a ton of money with that ship...then you're in your little life support/escape pod thing...if you're killed, you lose the 1-2 years of training you just did :P |
| 01:48.45 | Tain | There's not a ton of penalty for dying. Someone has to go out of their way to really be a dick by killing you in your escape pod. |
| 01:49.02 | weab | you don't lose training so much as the implants |
| 01:49.05 | Xuerian | ckknight: Or at the very least, bleeding expsensive implants, when your conciousness gets cold-dumped into a clone |
| 01:49.08 | weab | unless you're an idiot and don't invest in a clone |
| 01:49.10 | Tain | That's where the real penalty is, but that's not a big deal if you keep your insurance up. |
| 01:49.23 | Amadeo | yeah, I didn't get that far though |
| 01:49.30 | Amadeo | I had a nice ship i think |
| 01:49.32 | Amadeo | I just forget which |
| 01:49.37 | Fudge | Kalamadi, wewt, drama? |
| 01:49.52 | Xuerian | Kalamadi: I feel the pain. |
| 01:49.55 | Kalamadi | Fudge: Worse. They aren't doing anything at all but talk about last night's Nef kill |
| 01:50.09 | Kalamadi | The gong's right over yonder, ring it! I'm sure we're ready |
| 01:50.33 | Fudge | lol |
| 01:50.50 | Kalamadi | It hurts because paladin buffs only last 15 minutes |
| 01:50.52 | Amadeo | There are 18,000-ish people online in EVE right now...there's more people than that on Skullcrusher! :P |
| 01:51.06 | Kalamadi | So, while they've been talking, we've wasted a set of reagents |
| 01:51.13 | Xuerian | And the other nice thing about eve is that those 18000 people are in the same universe. |
| 01:52.30 | Amadeo | Xuerian: But the universe is so huge that you never see anyone! |
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| 01:53.02 | Amadeo | I liked EVE overall though |
| 01:53.03 | weab | i thought that was an amusing bit of irony as well. it's really a social game that you don't ever see anyone in |
| 01:53.25 | Xuerian | Amadeo: Not true. As you progress, you fall into circles of people, those circles of people generally stick to certain routes, systems, territories, or in the case of the bigger alliances, their own sectors of space |
| 01:53.51 | Amadeo | I believe it, but here's what turned me off about EVE |
| 01:53.57 | Amadeo | You could do two things |
| 01:54.05 | Xuerian | Mine or fight. |
| 01:54.07 | Amadeo | Fight or Mine, and everyone wanted you to mine |
| 01:54.17 | Amadeo | You join a Corporation, and they make you buy mining ships and stuff |
| 01:54.21 | weab | trade routes can be profitable |
| 01:54.30 | Amadeo | they have mandatory mining |
| 01:54.37 | Xuerian | It's similar to the dkp argument earlier |
| 01:54.40 | weab | rats can be profitable too |
| 01:54.47 | Amadeo | I just don't really want to log on and stare at an asteroid, it's not fun for me |
| 01:55.29 | Amadeo | and then make trips to and from asteroids, and do it all day |
| 01:55.34 | Kalamadi | Argh. Divine Favor mechanics are so screwed up |
| 01:56.12 | Kalamadi | I can DF -> Holy Shock, and, if Holy Shock is resisted, DF isn't used up |
| 01:56.27 | Kalamadi | I can DF -> Holy Light, and Holy Light doesn't crit, but DF is used up |
| 01:56.43 | eternally777 | Sorry to get off topic, but is there a program for linux to handle USB flash drives? |
| 01:56.54 | Xuerian | Amadeo: I never did mine all day. We usually got up a mining op, the ones of us who couldn't mine well helped transport, and guarded from rats or other people attacking the group |
| 01:57.18 | Xuerian | of course due to my anti-social nature, I left and got bored, then quit, and here I am :P |
| 01:57.19 | Amadeo | Xuerian: I would enjoy guarding, but I don't really want to mine or transport |
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| 01:57.26 | Amadeo | I'd like to kill people :P |
| 01:57.43 | Xuerian | Amadeo: And guarding is what I did, it was hella fun to pick up people warping in and intercept them before they could do anything :P |
| 01:57.47 | Amadeo | All the expansions for EVE are free, right? |
| 01:57.51 | Xuerian | Yes |
| 01:57.54 | Amadeo | that's the best part |
| 01:57.57 | Xuerian | Yep |
| 01:58.47 | Amadeo | what's the biggest ship in the game now? as far as for combat |
| 01:59.19 | Xuerian | mothership-esq ships |
| 01:59.20 | weab | titans |
| 01:59.26 | Xuerian | yea. |
| 01:59.31 | weab | i think some have actually been made |
| 01:59.37 | Xuerian | They're what, 200x the size of a fighter? |
| 01:59.48 | Amadeo | how many years does it take just to train the skills for those? |
| 01:59.58 | Xuerian | At least one |
| 02:00.21 | Fudge | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Eve_chart.jpg |
| 02:00.41 | weab | you can probably guess which is the titan |
| 02:00.44 | Amadeo | Minmatar ftw |
| 02:01.46 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15137 10PeriodicTable-2.0/ (6 files in 3 dirs): .PeriodicTable-2.0 - Yup, it's Ace2 now. Only including the Misc set for the moment, I intend to change some of the set names around to make them work directly with Babble (boss loots and zone names mainly here) |
| 02:01.49 | Kalamadi | Oh god damn that's big |
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| 02:02.04 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15138 10InBed/InBed.lua: InBed - Updated for PT-2.0 |
| 02:02.16 | Xuerian | That's the other thing about eve. Scale :) |
| 02:02.26 | Xuerian | another thing. past the "the other" point :P |
| 02:02.30 | Amadeo | scale is what brings immersion to games |
| 02:02.43 | Amadeo | that's why EQ was more immersive than these 3rd person MMOGs with hardly any scale |
| 02:03.33 | weab | i always liked the first person perspective of eq |
| 02:03.40 | weab | couldn't do it with wow though |
| 02:03.53 | Amadeo | yeah, same |
| 02:03.53 | Tain | Yeah EQ really had some "magic" early on. |
| 02:04.20 | Amadeo | But how much of that was "First 3D MMORPG", and how much was "magic"? |
| 02:04.31 | Tain | They're the same thing. |
| 02:04.34 | Amadeo | haha |
| 02:04.56 | Amadeo | I find that people whose first MMORPG was WoW seem to feel the same way about WoW as I do about early EQ |
| 02:04.58 | Tain | The first time you do something brand new, that experience sticks with you. |
| 02:05.19 | ckknight | Amadeo, what's that? |
| 02:05.42 | Amadeo | ckknight: EQ will always be the best MMOG to me, even if it wasn't |
| 02:05.45 | Amadeo | haha |
| 02:06.00 | weab | it just carries with it a certain amount of nostalgia |
| 02:06.07 | weab | you can't get that back |
| 02:06.19 | Kalamadi | I disagree with that |
| 02:06.23 | Xuerian | Just like nwn for me <3 |
| 02:06.29 | Kalamadi | My first MMORPG was FFXI, and I think it sucked |
| 02:06.34 | Amadeo | Like trying to get through that damn tunnel in Everfrost to Blackburrow when you've died as a Barbarian and can't see shit at night |
| 02:06.46 | weab | well, maybe it has to be an mmo that doesn't suck |
| 02:06.51 | tekcub | FFXI was beautiful, but the UI and game mechanics blew |
| 02:06.51 | Kalamadi | XD |
| 02:06.56 | Kalamadi | FFXI was UGLY |
| 02:07.05 | Tain | FFXI was a lot of work. |
| 02:07.07 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15139 10PeriodicTable-2.0/ (Libs/ PeriodicTable-2.0.toc): PeriodicTable-2.0 - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed) |
| 02:07.11 | tekcub | s/FFXI/My galka's ass/ |
| 02:07.15 | Amadeo | I heard that Japanese people lay the smack down to Americans in FFXI, haha |
| 02:07.29 | weab | Amadeo: i had to reroll after taking my first barbarian to kelethin and losing his corpse at night because i couldnt see |
| 02:07.30 | Kalamadi | You had to literally break the EULA in order to make it look nice |
| 02:07.34 | ckknight | go America! |
| 02:07.39 | Kalamadi | And, uh |
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| 02:07.46 | Amadeo | weab: Yeah, I completely know what you mean |
| 02:07.46 | Kalamadi | The Japanese get owned, now >_> |
| 02:07.55 | Amadeo | I don't mean as far as PvP or anything |
| 02:08.08 | Amadeo | but just that a lot of Japanese won't let you group with them if you're American or whatever |
| 02:08.15 | Amadeo | that's what people told me anyway |
| 02:08.23 | tekcub | the JP were very weary of the US players at the start |
| 02:08.26 | Kalamadi | I installed the Japanese client and they never knew the difference >_> |
| 02:08.33 | tekcub | they hated us cause we were rude and checked them |
| 02:08.41 | Amadeo | tekcub: What if you made these faces: ^.~ |
| 02:08.43 | tekcub | I don't speak JP :P |
| 02:08.56 | Kalamadi | Neither do I - at least not to a significant extent |
| 02:08.56 | tekcub | Amadeo, just say 'w' a lot |
| 02:08.59 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 02:09.08 | tekcub | although you can't say it in their nice scripty w |
| 02:09.09 | Amadeo | I speak Japanese |
| 02:09.13 | Amadeo | domo arigato mr roboto |
| 02:09.20 | tekcub | nandayo? |
| 02:09.26 | Amadeo | domo... |
| 02:09.27 | ckknight | Ni hao |
| 02:09.35 | ckknight | I'm Kilroy! |
| 02:10.02 | Amadeo | ckknight: How's BC going? |
| 02:10.13 | ckknight | my Blood Knight is lvl 20 |
| 02:10.14 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:10.40 | Amadeo | I think I prefer the old skinny BE models to the new ones |
| 02:10.40 | Azurewrath | Blood Knight = Horde Pala, right? |
| 02:11.06 | tekcub | so sad..... |
| 02:11.12 | ckknight | yea, Azurewrath |
| 02:11.16 | tekcub | Trey: |
| 02:11.16 | tekcub | and I just love gary's logic |
| 02:11.16 | tekcub | David: |
| 02:11.16 | tekcub | oro? |
| 02:11.16 | tekcub | Trey: |
| 02:11.17 | tekcub | the fact that I went outside to ask him to run and get me some food means I wanted to give him head |
| 02:11.26 | tekcub | David: |
| 02:11.26 | tekcub | duh |
| 02:11.26 | tekcub | Trey: |
| 02:11.27 | tekcub | duh what? |
| 02:11.36 | tekcub | David: |
| 02:11.36 | tekcub | drivethru head, of course |
| 02:11.36 | tekcub | you didn't know that? |
| 02:11.36 | tekcub | Trey: |
| 02:11.37 | tekcub | ohh duh |
| 02:11.45 | Kalamadi | <- lost |
| 02:11.54 | ckknight | I don't understand gay culture |
| 02:12.00 | tekcub | "he was just sitting outside in his truck doing nuffin" |
| 02:12.17 | Amadeo | Who's nuffin? |
| 02:12.19 | tekcub | "he was jackin it, you interrupted, that's why he thinks you'll give him head" |
| 02:12.45 | tekcub | gay? |
| 02:12.53 | tekcub | these are fucking oilfield hands |
| 02:12.59 | tekcub | they're more gay then we are :P |
| 02:13.15 | Kalamadi | <= more lost |
| 02:13.22 | tekcub | I don't try to hump my coworkers, I just enjoy the thought of doing it |
| 02:13.24 | Amadeo | tekcub made the channel silent |
| 02:13.27 | Amadeo | hahahaha |
| 02:13.29 | weab | i think you missed pasting part of it or something |
| 02:13.39 | tekcub | I don't actually try... in front of dozens of other supposedly str8 men |
| 02:13.39 | weab | because i dont think what we read made sense |
| 02:13.46 | Kalamadi | tekcub: Start right around, "in the beginning, before there was time..." |
| 02:13.58 | tekcub | no I pasted it all :P |
| 02:14.10 | weab | well we must all be stupid or something |
| 02:14.12 | weab | :P |
| 02:14.28 | tekcub | he asked a guy at work to take him to get food |
| 02:14.39 | tekcub | that guy thought he wanted to give him head in exchange |
| 02:15.05 | Tain | Yeah makes sense to me. Moving on. |
| 02:15.16 | Amadeo | I gotta try that trick with women |
| 02:15.19 | Kalamadi | My dog's spying on me |
| 02:15.19 | tekcub | or rather, tried to get head in exchange... |
| 02:15.45 | Tain | Next time you go to the movies try the popcorn trick. |
| 02:15.59 | Amadeo | should I ask? |
| 02:16.05 | Kalamadi | I have an idea what he means. |
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| 02:16.10 | Kalamadi | I don't wish to entertain the idea further |
| 02:16.12 | weab | what's the popcorn trick? tear a hole in the bottom of the bag and... |
| 02:16.13 | Azurewrath | mhm k... if im gay and ask some guy to get me food, he thinks i wanna give him head.. weird. ;p |
| 02:16.24 | tekcub | az, not any guy |
| 02:16.36 | Amadeo | oilfield hands! |
| 02:16.37 | Morfar | Hey folks. I was wondering since I saw some movies where some frames remain shown even though ALT+Z was activated. How's that possible? |
| 02:16.40 | tekcub | must be those macho super str8 redneck oil workers |
| 02:17.03 | tekcub | they're like steel mill workers... they act 100x more gay than real gay people |
| 02:17.10 | tekcub | usually cause they think it's fun |
| 02:17.18 | Kalamadi | They're just lonely inside. |
| 02:17.19 | tekcub | which I don't understand myself... |
| 02:17.20 | Azurewrath | hehe |
| 02:17.23 | Kalamadi | Lonely and horny. |
| 02:17.37 | Amadeo | Morfar: You may have to wait for a real answer, since you came in during a gay discussion |
| 02:17.40 | weab | aren't the big strong manly labor types supposed to act less gay |
| 02:17.52 | Morfar | Amadeo, hehe |
| 02:17.58 | tekcub | weab, yea... |
| 02:18.03 | Kalamadi | weab: Nah, they're already in labor, so they're both men AND women! |
| 02:18.12 | Morfar | I'm gay, listen to me and be kind and answer my question. |
| 02:18.14 | ckknight | ~listinfo wowace |
| 02:18.15 | tekcub | I can't find any big strong manly types in flannel that DON'T act gay |
| 02:18.19 | tekcub | *sigh* |
| 02:18.41 | ckknight | my dad's a big strong manly type that doesn't act gay |
| 02:18.45 | ckknight | could be that he's straight, though |
| 02:18.47 | tekcub | flannel? |
| 02:18.50 | tekcub | beard? |
| 02:18.51 | Azurewrath | why shouldn't someone act gay if he IS gay? :) |
| 02:18.53 | ckknight | nah, aloha shirts mostly |
| 02:18.54 | tekcub | deep voice? |
| 02:19.02 | ckknight | he used to have a moustache, but that's gone now |
| 02:19.12 | tekcub | your dad sucks, I hate him |
| 02:19.13 | weab | there are a wide variety of gays, Azurewrath |
| 02:19.14 | Amadeo | ckknight: Handlebar? |
| 02:19.22 | Kalamadi | Vrrm, vrrm~ |
| 02:19.30 | ckknight | Amadeo, handlebar? |
| 02:19.31 | tekcub | Az... okey replace gay with flaming |
| 02:19.35 | Amadeo | handlebar moustache! |
| 02:19.42 | tekcub | I generally hate flaming homos, gay or not |
| 02:19.46 | ckknight | not sure what you mean by that |
| 02:19.48 | Azurewrath | hehe |
| 02:20.12 | Tain | Well I like lipstick lesbians, so there. |
| 02:20.28 | weab | well said |
| 02:20.29 | ckknight | oh, lipstick lesbians are great |
| 02:20.39 | Amadeo | ckknight: something like this! http://www.photo.net/shared/portrait-bits.tcl?user_id=1631696 |
| 02:20.42 | ckknight | at least in porn :-P |
| 02:20.43 | tekcub | I see these big butch manly men with great beards and all furry... and he looks at me.. and says... "OH MY GAWD! That shirt is just FAB_U_LOS!" |
| 02:20.51 | tekcub | and I die a little inside |
| 02:20.51 | Azurewrath | we have a gay couple in guild.. it's fun.. one is more the female part of the relationship i guess.. cooks, cleans.. |
| 02:20.58 | ckknight | no, Amadeo, it was a normal moustache |
| 02:21.05 | Amadeo | haha |
| 02:21.08 | tekcub | Az, define female |
| 02:21.09 | tekcub | :P |
| 02:21.18 | ckknight | bottom/sub |
| 02:21.19 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 02:21.23 | Azurewrath | female like in.. cook and clean ;) |
| 02:21.24 | tekcub | roh cooks, doesn't clean, and bitches about everything |
| 02:21.25 | Amadeo | pitcher/catcher |
| 02:21.42 | tekcub | I mostly pick up after his ass, do his laundry... |
| 02:21.47 | Tain | That sounds like me, tekcub. And I'm not even gay. |
| 02:21.48 | tekcub | and we take turns in bed :P |
| 02:21.58 | Amadeo | haha |
| 02:23.16 | Amadeo | You can learn much more than coding in #WoWAce |
| 02:23.45 | Amadeo | You think they teach you about oilfield hands in school? OH no! |
| 02:24.19 | ckknight | oilfield hands? |
| 02:24.46 | Amadeo | ckknight: tekcub was teaching us that they're the gayest of gay |
| 02:24.54 | Amadeo | even though they're straight! |
| 02:25.10 | weab | we're not quite sure what tekcub was telling us |
| 02:25.13 | Tain | Well when you're greasing up your hands what do you expect! |
| 02:25.19 | weab | other than something about head and gays and food |
| 02:25.31 | Kalamadi | This conversation is making me hungry. |
| 02:25.39 | Amadeo | Yeah, all the talk about head and gays |
| 02:25.39 | ckknight | you know, I think we should have a straight pride parade |
| 02:26.14 | ckknight | I know you all look at me in disgust |
| 02:26.19 | ckknight | "ooh, he likes girls" |
| 02:26.22 | Kalamadi | Straight Pride Parade? |
| 02:26.26 | ckknight | when will your tormenting eyes leave me alone? |
| 02:26.27 | Kalamadi | Isn't that called "business as usual"? |
| 02:29.20 | [FH]Birdemani | saroz: ping |
| 02:30.26 | [FH]Birdemani | the kokr locals is causing an error: localization.kokr.lua.153:unfinished string near" |
| 02:32.06 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15140 10MountMe/Core.lua: MountMe - Converted to PT-2.0 |
| 02:33.25 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15141 10InBed/InBed.lua: InBed - Fixed Babble-2.2 |
| 02:34.33 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15142 10MountMe/ (Libs/ MountMe.toc): MountMe - Setting libraries and externals (Automated commit by InBed) |
| 02:35.24 | eternally777 | Is it possible to iterate through a numerically indexed array backwards? |
| 02:35.32 | eternally777 | vnm |
| 02:35.37 | eternally777 | s/vnm/nvm/ |
| 02:35.37 | ckknight | yep. |
| 02:35.41 | ckknight | very easy ;-) |
| 02:35.45 | eternally777 | for i = 10, 1, 1 do... |
| 02:35.53 | eternally777 | right? |
| 02:35.56 | ckknight | not quite |
| 02:36.01 | Kalamadi | -1! |
| 02:36.08 | eternally777 | Yeah I thought about that |
| 02:36.10 | ckknight | for i = #t, 1, -1 do local x = t[i] end |
| 02:36.34 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15143 10MountMe/MountMe.toc: MountMe - Last lil bit of TOC updates |
| 02:36.49 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252) |
| 02:36.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 02:37.11 | ckknight | hey Tem |
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| 02:37.30 | Tem | you really should just be hooking the AddMessage mthod |
| 02:37.44 | Tem | no one has any business hooking CF_OE |
| 02:38.00 | Tain | Fight the power! |
| 02:38.02 | tekcub | Tem, you can selectivly test in the OE |
| 02:38.11 | tekcub | in AddMessage you have to test every message |
| 02:38.18 | Tem | what do you mean? |
| 02:38.24 | Tem | it's fired from the event handlers |
| 02:38.28 | tekcub | and you might block addon's direct output when al you want to block is chat |
| 02:38.33 | Morfar | Does anyone know how it's possible to point a frame to something making it NOT go hidden when hitting ALT+Z ? |
| 02:38.58 | tekcub | if I want to block something on, say, CHAT_MSG_EMOTE say |
| 02:38.59 | Morfar | Erhm weird way to ask. All in all to make the minimap stay shown while hidding everything else |
| 02:39.00 | Tem | Morfar, all alt-z does it hide UIParent |
| 02:39.11 | tekcub | hooking OE I can test the string only on that event |
| 02:39.23 | tekcub | hooking AddMessage I have to test EVERY message |
| 02:39.25 | Morfar | I know Tem, but setting MinimapCluster to WorldFrame still hides it |
| 02:39.31 | Morfar | ./script MinimapCluster:ClearAllPoints(); MinimapCluster:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", "WorldFrame", "TOPRIGHT", 0, 0); |
| 02:39.41 | Morfar | Still gets hidden |
| 02:39.54 | Tem | that's because anchors don't mean shit for visibility |
| 02:39.59 | Tem | it's the PARENT that matters |
| 02:40.09 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15144 10MountMe/MountMe.toc: MountMe - I lied on that last commit ^^ |
| 02:40.10 | Tem | tekcub, you can do the same thing in an AddMessage hook |
| 02:40.14 | Morfar | Okay, so how should it be then? |
| 02:40.14 | tekcub | parents are a PITA |
| 02:40.25 | Tem | why? |
| 02:40.28 | tekcub | Tem... oh duh the global will still be set... |
| 02:40.30 | Tain | Tell it to Oedepus. |
| 02:40.30 | Amadeo | bbiab |
| 02:40.33 | tekcub | BUT! |
| 02:40.43 | eternally777 | What's the command to get the current lua build number? |
| 02:40.47 | tekcub | what if the value in the global is lingering? |
| 02:40.50 | Tem | tekcub, yes, yes it will =P |
| 02:40.59 | tekcub | like the addmessage happened in an OnUpdate |
| 02:41.08 | Tem | no lol |
| 02:41.22 | Morfar | Tem, got any suggestions on how to let the minimapcluster remain shown when hiding everything else? I'm really clueless here :-/ |
| 02:41.24 | Tem | the one advantage to CF_OE hooking is you don't have to hook each add message |
| 02:41.33 | Tem | Morfar, I told you already, make it not parented to UIParent |
| 02:41.42 | ckknight | Tem, I can't just hook AddMessage |
| 02:41.46 | Tem | MinimapCluster:SetParent(WorldFrame) would probably do |
| 02:41.48 | ckknight | because sometimes other things occur. |
| 02:41.53 | ckknight | such as sounds |
| 02:42.09 | Tem | hmm |
| 02:42.11 | Tem | indeed |
| 02:42.35 | Tem | anyway, I'm confident that we'll get the CF_OE stuff fixed |
| 02:42.42 | tekcub | yea |
| 02:42.43 | Tem | it's got other issues |
| 02:42.49 | ckknight | confident enough ... to kill? |
| 02:42.51 | tekcub | one way or tother |
| 02:42.52 | Tem | hooking it isn't the only way to fubar it |
| 02:43.23 | tekcub | InBed worked perfectly on MountMe... and it uses lots of Libs... |
| 02:43.25 | tekcub | huzzah! |
| 02:44.58 | Tem | if you change the ChatType table, you taint everything below it |
| 02:45.01 | Tem | which is.. erm |
| 02:45.10 | Tem | you break all the secure slash commands |
| 02:45.24 | Morfar | Tem, using /script MinimapCluster:SetParent(WorldFrame); gives some weird effects. The minimap disappears gliding left and then some weird colors hovers the original place of the minimapcluster |
| 02:45.26 | ckknight | icky. |
| 02:45.36 | Tem | neat |
| 02:45.38 | Tem | ok, then no parent |
| 02:46.06 | Tem | MinimapCluster:SetParent(nil) |
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| 02:46.19 | Morfar | same |
| 02:46.40 | Morfar | Some disco lights etc. Looks odd but cool in a way but not the requested feature I'd like :> |
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| 02:46.52 | Tain | Minimap is a little special |
| 02:47.07 | Tem | that's really odd |
| 02:47.10 | Tem | I wonder why it does that |
| 02:47.13 | Tain | You'll get some very odd things happening if you reparent or change its strata, level, etc. |
| 02:47.32 | Tain | I don't know why, but I had odd results doing things with it. |
| 02:48.39 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15145 10PeriodicTable-2.0/ (. PeriodicTable-2.0.toc): PeriodicTable-2.0 - TOC Metadata for AceLibrary |
| 02:49.40 | GD|Liquidor | So frankly it isn't possible? |
| 02:50.50 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15146 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (PeriodicTable-2.0/ SurfaceLib/): !!!StandaloneLibraries - Added SurfaceLib and PeriodicTable-2.0 |
| 02:51.15 | GD|Liquidor | :-O Don't tell me there's something you guys can't figure out? :-O |
| 02:51.43 | Tain | The Minimap is special. |
| 02:51.45 | ckknight | I don't have WoW open to test |
| 02:52.07 | GD|Liquidor | I was thinking then... Since I'm running with only 2 addons or so, maybe I just should hide everything else then? |
| 02:52.21 | PProvost | I've seen SS of people running with no UI at all. |
| 02:52.33 | PProvost | Keybindings FTW! |
| 02:52.52 | GD|Liquidor | That's not the case PProvost :-) I'd like the minimap shown and everything else to be hidden |
| 02:52.54 | ckknight | PProvost, alt-z |
| 02:53.05 | ckknight | ? |
| 02:53.42 | GD|Liquidor | So let's say I'm running default ui, what are the frame names of the entire bar at the bottom, my unitframes ? |
| 02:53.51 | GD|Liquidor | , = and |
| 02:53.57 | Kalamadi | MainMenuBar |
| 02:54.10 | Kalamadi | That's the whole "bottom bar" |
| 02:54.30 | PProvost | ckknight, yes. Alt-Z. But what I mean is, I have seen people who claim to actually play that way. |
| 02:54.33 | GD|Liquidor | Ok except those extra buttons from the interface options, they won't hide |
| 02:54.35 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:54.45 | GD|Liquidor | PProvost, same |
| 02:54.49 | GD|Liquidor | mostly rogues |
| 02:55.18 | Tain | I run a fairly minimalist UI, but I still like having buttons visible. |
| 02:56.54 | PProvost | Only reason I have any buttons at all is for when I forget the keystroke for something. |
| 02:56.58 | PProvost | For the most part I don't look. |
| 02:57.06 | PProvost | Can't live without the minimap. |
| 02:57.07 | ckknight | I like to click-cast |
| 02:57.13 | GD|Liquidor | seriously? |
| 02:57.22 | PProvost | I hate the mouse. |
| 02:57.22 | GD|Liquidor | Isn't that... slow? |
| 02:57.26 | PProvost | Huh? |
| 02:57.32 | GD|Liquidor | the click-casting |
| 02:57.41 | Kalamadi | With Grid, it's not :D |
| 02:57.54 | Funkeh` | cant wait for grid |
| 02:58.14 | Funkeh` | it has decursing built in now doesnt it? |
| 02:58.42 | ckknight | GD|Liquidor, click-casting is great for me. |
| 02:58.55 | GD|Liquidor | ckknight, your priest is only 16 anyway |
| 02:59.11 | Kalamadi | Funkeh`: What do you mean "decursing"? |
| 02:59.14 | ckknight | I've played on higher level priests |
| 02:59.17 | GD|Liquidor | =) |
| 02:59.27 | GD|Liquidor | I got server shutdown in 3m :( |
| 02:59.49 | Funkeh` | well you cant auto decurse anymore but its got a decurse assistant no? |
| 03:01.38 | eternally777 | can I assert multiple things with one assert statement? |
| 03:02.40 | eternally777 | like "assert(tbl1 and tbl2, "msg") |
| 03:02.50 | Kalamadi | Again, what do you mean by "assistant"? |
| 03:03.02 | Kalamadi | It pops up a little box when someone's debuffed. |
| 03:03.48 | ckknight | yes, eternally777 |
| 03:04.16 | Funkeh` | as in it assists you yo decurse |
| 03:04.22 | Funkeh` | but nvm |
| 03:04.35 | Funkeh` | to* |
| 03:04.37 | ckknight | here's the assert function: function assert(check, message) if not check then error(message or "assertion failed!", 2) end end |
| 03:04.40 | ckknight | essentially. |
| 03:04.52 | ckknight | so, tbl1 and tbl2 is the check argument |
| 03:05.19 | ckknight | alright, off to class |
| 03:06.23 | tekcub | wow, I got done with MountMe for now... I feel so accomplished |
| 03:06.36 | tekcub | wait, forgot I need an AceConsole table... bugger! |
| 03:06.41 | Tain | u suk newb |
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| 03:27.39 | Dahn | hello gents |
| 03:28.27 | Kalamadi | Hello lady. |
| 03:28.48 | Kalamadi | I mean. Hi. |
| 03:28.58 | Dahn | funny! :) |
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| 03:29.22 | tekcub | okey Lady! |
| 03:29.24 | hiwrac | 'evening |
| 03:29.32 | Kalamadi | tekcub: Animaniacs? |
| 03:29.33 | tekcub | <--- has a dorf named Beardyhead |
| 03:30.03 | tekcub | okey Lady I love you buhbye! |
| 03:30.18 | hiwrac | I dont suppose anyone could tell me how to get AceGUI-2.0 installed and working? |
| 03:30.27 | Tem | you can't |
| 03:30.39 | Tem | it's incomplete atm |
| 03:30.44 | tekcub | step one, finish AceGUI-2.0 |
| 03:30.50 | Tem | and *sigh* it's going to need a lot of love |
| 03:30.53 | tekcub | step 2) upload to SVN |
| 03:30.54 | hiwrac | damn I suck at step 1 :( |
| 03:30.58 | tekcub | step 3) install |
| 03:31.17 | hiwrac | found it digging through the SVN, was hoping it was in some sort of workable form |
| 03:31.51 | hiwrac | Im assuming that AceGUI (1.0) will not in fact work with Ace2 |
| 03:32.21 | Tem | oh no it works just fine |
| 03:32.36 | Tem | Ace1 and Ace2 run perfectly side-by-side |
| 03:32.59 | Dahn | anyone have a tip for me if in the past day i've started getting ChatFrame.lua throwing errors like "AceConsole-2.0 : Option handler XXX not found." ? |
| 03:33.34 | hiwrac | So I could use AceGUI in an Ace2 mod? I would still need Ace1 installed as well though, correct? |
| 03:33.43 | Tem | yes, you would |
| 03:34.34 | hiwrac | I guess thats worth a try than |
| 03:34.39 | Tem | I wouldn't bother |
| 03:35.02 | Tem | well, *shrug* up to you |
| 03:37.11 | tekcub | BulkMail |
| 03:37.11 | tekcub | :) |
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| 03:38.12 | mjc | pearlyrics autoupdates lyrics from the net if the song I'm listening to doesn't have it, then my lyrics script for adium updates my away message from itunes, /sendtune sends the song I'm listening to to the current person I'm IMing, NAT-PMP auto-opens the file transfer ports, QoS auto slows down my peer to peer file sharing to send the file faster... god I love macs :P |
| 03:38.16 | Tain | Colbert Report is making me laugh out loud tonight. |
| 03:38.28 | Tain | Actual out loud laughing. |
| 03:38.33 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel * r15148 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: minor logic adjustment |
| 03:39.19 | tekcub | fucking hippies |
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| 03:47.45 | PProvost | Do we have an in-game notepad type addon? |
| 03:48.11 | alcaras | tinypad |
| 03:48.38 | alcaras | so tiny it isn't even ace'd :p |
| 03:48.52 | PProvost | On SVN or elsewhere? |
| 03:48.59 | alcaras | not on wowace, elsewhere |
| 03:49.08 | alcaras | are you asking for burning crusade or retail :p |
| 03:49.16 | PProvost | retail. |
| 03:49.20 | PProvost | I don't do beta |
| 03:49.22 | alcaras | ah, i have no links for tbc |
| 03:49.25 | alcaras | i don't do retail ;) |
| 03:49.28 | alcaras | err |
| 03:49.30 | alcaras | no links for retail* |
| 03:49.41 | tekcub | I hate you |
| 03:49.41 | alcaras | but google told me http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1718 |
| 03:49.46 | tekcub | :P |
| 03:49.53 | alcaras | i hate ppl still in retail! |
| 03:49.58 | alcaras | all that work on mods going to waste |
| 03:50.05 | alcaras | and more headache for me to convert 'em to tbc |
| 03:50.09 | alcaras | blizz should just let everyone into beta |
| 03:50.12 | tekcub | not wasted |
| 03:50.14 | tekcub | :P |
| 03:50.23 | tekcub | smart programmers know what's coming |
| 03:50.31 | alcaras | doesn't mean it always works in tbc |
| 03:50.36 | tekcub | and plan accordingly if they can't test it yet |
| 03:50.47 | alcaras | i really, really wish we can /files/ for tbc stuff |
| 03:50.50 | tekcub | yes but does mean we know what's in store |
| 03:51.08 | alcaras | but yeah, i don't really hate folks w/o retail |
| 03:51.13 | alcaras | i love'em for writing great ui mods! |
| 03:51.25 | alcaras | hopefully 1.13 will implement wow 2.0 |
| 03:51.30 | tekcub | take Cork.. when I get the motivation to work on it I'll make it passive in-combat so that people know :) |
| 03:51.46 | alcaras | ooh, you wrote corkfu? |
| 03:51.47 | alcaras | <3 |
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| 03:51.59 | alcaras | and thus those in beta won't have to try to live as second class citizens anymore |
| 03:52.01 | tekcub | and PTarg will get the targetting removed... again whenever I'm motivated |
| 03:52.08 | alcaras | at least in terms of ui mods |
| 03:52.16 | tekcub | yes I wrote cork |
| 03:52.23 | alcaras | i still haven't figured out the actionbar secure header change for stances :( |
| 03:52.27 | tekcub | and lots of other stuf... you're new here aren't yous? |
| 03:52.30 | alcaras | yeah i am |
| 03:52.34 | tekcub | :P |
| 03:52.46 | alcaras | i should practice <3 ! h8! |
| 03:53.00 | alcaras | i hope you'll forgive me ;) |
| 03:53.08 | tekcub | nope, too late, I hate you |
| 03:53.18 | Kaelten | well guys I finally have some fairly reliable statistics about our usage |
| 03:53.19 | tekcub | only way to forgiveness is to let me use your TBC acct |
| 03:53.27 | Kaelten | it doesn't include svn access though |
| 03:53.34 | Tain | Lies, it's all lies. |
| 03:53.38 | Kaelten | lol |
| 03:53.47 | Gamefaq | :) |
| 03:53.47 | tekcub | we don't need no steeenking SVN |
| 03:53.51 | tekcub | ...stats |
| 03:54.01 | Kaelten | we'l just forum and wiki traffic was nearly 100k page views yesterday |
| 03:54.14 | Tain | I just send money to placate my concience. |
| 03:54.19 | tekcub | I'm hungry |
| 03:54.21 | alcaras | mm wow |
| 03:54.24 | tekcub | I want Chubby Hubby |
| 03:54.26 | Kaelten | lol |
| 03:54.27 | alcaras | 100k unique views? or just views? |
| 03:54.34 | Kaelten | alcaras page views |
| 03:54.36 | alcaras | kk |
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| 03:54.48 | alcaras | that's uh 1/10 of what my site has gotten since may -- in a day |
| 03:54.48 | Amadeo | BugSack is giving me an error I've yet to see |
| 03:54.50 | alcaras | impressive! |
| 03:54.50 | Kaelten | it was about 8k unique visitors |
| 03:54.55 | Amadeo | it just says |
| 03:54.59 | Amadeo | "last message repeated 842 times" |
| 03:55.04 | Amadeo | and a bunch of those appear, with different numbers |
| 03:55.11 | alcaras | is there a working bugsack for tbc yet? |
| 03:55.19 | alcaras | last i tried it died a few alpha patches ago and haven't tried since |
| 03:55.24 | Kaelten | Amadeo: lol, remember that anything that is message() will show up in bugsack |
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| 03:55.42 | Kaelten | so if you message a zero length string you might get something like that |
| 03:56.04 | Amadeo | how do I find out what's causing this? |
| 03:56.06 | Amadeo | lol |
| 03:56.16 | Kaelten | um.... the turn off an addon at a time test :) |
| 03:56.25 | Amadeo | Kaelten: You're mean! |
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| 03:57.12 | Kaelten | either that or systamatically debug all your addons one file at a time :) |
| 03:57.16 | Kaelten | your choice :) |
| 03:57.35 | Gamefaq | btw. errors.. |
| 03:57.57 | Gamefaq | keal could you fix please oneview/onering? |
| 03:58.10 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 03:58.13 | Kaelten | whats wrong with it? |
| 03:58.24 | kb1ibt | CoT has a hillsbrad foothills and it is showing up as 20-30 in LocationFu even tho it id the "old hillsbrad" which means it has 67 elites |
| 03:58.29 | Gamefaq | onebag is updated to acelocale 2.2 |
| 03:58.34 | Kaelten | lol |
| 03:58.38 | alcaras | hehe yeah kb1ibt i noticed that too |
| 03:58.41 | Kaelten | I guess ck must have done that |
| 03:58.51 | Gamefaq | but onering/view are still sek acelocale2.1 |
| 03:58.59 | Funkeh` | latest onebag works fine for me |
| 03:59.00 | Gamefaq | yes he did |
| 03:59.02 | Kaelten | I'll look at it tommorow :) |
| 03:59.17 | Kaelten | I've got to get to bed because 5am comes pretty damned early.... |
| 03:59.17 | Kaelten | :( |
| 03:59.20 | Kaelten | gnight guys |
| 03:59.21 | Funkeh` | apart from the fact it still shows the gold pickup box behind the damn bag |
| 03:59.28 | Gamefaq | everyone who uses not the english version gets masssiv error spam |
| 03:59.39 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 03:59.51 | alcaras | has there been any talk for ace to go to linux style alternating point releases? |
| 04:00.22 | alcaras | e.g. even stable, odd development? |
| 04:00.39 | Funkeh` | something wrong with the current one? :P |
| 04:00.39 | tekcub | not exactly likely |
| 04:00.53 | tekcub | changing externals is annoying to say the least |
| 04:01.14 | tekcub | and we *try* to keep libs as stable as possible |
| 04:01.21 | Funkeh` | anyway, good night folks, have fun |
| 04:01.45 | alcaras | aye |
| 04:02.05 | alcaras | probably just the 2.0->2.1 changes screwing me over |
| 04:02.15 | tekcub | AceHook? |
| 04:02.16 | alcaras | tried it last night and got errors off the TBC branch |
| 04:02.17 | alcaras | yah |
| 04:02.27 | tekcub | yea someone jumped the gun there |
| 04:02.32 | alcaras | just removed it from my addon since it was't necessary |
| 04:02.44 | tekcub | I'll convert my shit over as I go, but I'm not gonna mass-convert em |
| 04:03.54 | Tem | tekcub, don't *hint hint* in my general direction |
| 04:04.07 | tekcub | *thrust thrust* |
| 04:04.10 | tekcub | that better? |
| 04:04.11 | Tem | eww |
| 04:04.26 | alcaras | has the /tar ace2 blocked action been fixed yet for tbc? |
| 04:04.29 | tekcub | You thrust your pelvis... uuugh! You thrust your pelvis... uuugh! |
| 04:04.42 | alcaras | or better yet: is there an rss feed i can subscribe to watch changes on select checkins? |
| 04:05.21 | tekcub | kael you still here? |
| 04:05.23 | kb1ibt | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.40 | tekcub | why the FUCK is One* listed as not Inventory ? |
| 04:06.09 | jumbali | anybody use bananabar2? |
| 04:07.28 | Tem | alcaras, the problem is most likely AceComm |
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| 04:07.42 | Tem | also, AceTab could be causing it |
| 04:09.34 | Tekkub | as a wise dorf gryphonmaster once told me... |
| 04:09.35 | alcaras | k, i'll have to hunt it down |
| 04:09.38 | Tekkub | "Keep your feet" |
| 04:09.51 | alcaras | old ace2 i was using wasn't causing it |
| 04:14.23 | Tem | alcaras, in AceTab it would be a hook to ChatFrameEditBox_OnTabPressed or something similar |
| 04:14.32 | Tem | alcaras, and in AceComm it would be the hooks to ChatFrame_OnEvent |
| 04:19.25 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15149 10IIK_FeignTrap/ (IIK_FeignTrap.toc core.lua): |
| 04:19.25 | CIA-17 | IIK_FeignTrap: |
| 04:19.25 | CIA-17 | - Update koKR, option localized(koKR)... Add Notes-koKR, Title-koKR |
| 04:21.42 | Dahn | alcaras, what kind of errors are you seeing? anything console related? |
| 04:22.09 | alcaras | no, aceconsole has been very nice |
| 04:23.43 | Dahn | too bad. was hoping for some company :) i'm doing the same exercise tho on chasing down some problem file |
| 04:24.21 | alcaras | yeah, it's fun, isn't it? |
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| 04:26.24 | Dahn | udpated a couple tbc mods yesterday, now i'm getting handler isDebugging() not found. every 'execute' type option stopped working ;( |
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| 04:45.19 | Kalamadi | Guild can down Nefarian, but struggles at Jin'do -_- |
| 04:47.56 | nazrm | -_- |
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| 05:04.03 | mjc | Kalamadi: jin'do sucks |
| 05:05.59 | haste | Tem: needs to be a optionaldep? |
| 05:06.20 | Tem | meh whatever |
| 05:06.33 | haste | well, think on it, I'm back in nine hours :p |
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| 05:11.21 | Tekkub | I hate looking for blood of heroes |
| 05:11.29 | Tekkub | I found 2 real fast... need one more |
| 05:12.49 | sergio | they're like everything else.. you always see them around when you don't need them |
| 05:13.57 | Plorkyeran | I run across them all the time on my hunter for some reason |
| 05:14.20 | Plorkyeran | Luckily my hunter has the mojo madness recipe :P |
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| 05:24.46 | Cartas | Nerf hunter. |
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| 06:01.12 | Dahn | night all |
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| 06:23.24 | oxman_ | Give me a reason to love you |
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| 06:56.38 | ckknight | hey all |
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| 07:00.49 | Slayman | You guys have to watch "Waiting..." if you haven't already, it's sweet movie! |
| 07:02.12 | Slayman | anyone, ping |
| 07:02.19 | Slayman | purl, ping |
| 07:02.27 | purl | pong |
| 07:02.56 | Slayman | ~whaleslap everyone in the fucking channel |
| 07:02.57 | purl | ACTION beats everyone in the fucking channel upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 07:04.19 | CIA-17 | 03greywind * r15150 10!!!Libs/ (. !!!Libs.toc): |
| 07:04.19 | CIA-17 | !!!Libs: |
| 07:04.19 | CIA-17 | - added PT-2.0 |
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| 07:08.09 | kb1ibt | Slayman: pong |
| 07:08.24 | Slayman | at least someone is alive in here :D |
| 07:08.31 | Slayman | how are you kb1 |
| 07:08.41 | kb1ibt | good |
| 07:08.47 | kb1ibt | i was playing tbc |
| 07:09.44 | Slayman | lucky bastard, the announcement it won't come in 06 hit me right in the face |
| 07:09.47 | CIA-17 | 03greywind * r15151 10!!!Libs/: |
| 07:09.48 | CIA-17 | !!!Libs: |
| 07:09.48 | CIA-17 | - dont say a word.... |
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| 07:10.35 | kb1ibt | i'm really a lucky bastard since i've been playing it for a month and a half |
| 07:11.43 | Slayman | i tried to trick blizzard with that "get an european beta account for an US account" but the called my bluff, sadly |
| 07:12.54 | Slayman | so our raid had it's share of panicked ppl leaving for a raid that's moved further in naxx, as a result I'm not playing much anymore |
| 07:13.11 | kb1ibt | well i don't need to bluff i just need to talk to a blizzard employee and i got in |
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| 07:14.16 | Slayman | yeah so you truly are a lucky bastard after all |
| 07:14.16 | Slayman | that said, my DL of NFS Carbon finished, and i think I'm going to give it a shot! |
| 07:14.16 | Slayman | outa here kinda ... |
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| 07:15.00 | CIA-17 | 03greywind * r15152 10!!!Libs/ (. !!!Libs.toc): |
| 07:15.00 | CIA-17 | !!!Libs: |
| 07:15.00 | CIA-17 | - added SEEquiped-2.0 |
| 07:15.42 | nazrm | :O |
| 07:17.48 | Mikma | yay updates |
| 07:20.57 | dreamss | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/dreamss/wow-bc/WoWScrnShot_102506_001705.jpg |
| 07:21.08 | dreamss | anyoen know what those orange/green squares are? |
| 07:23.05 | Mikma | Buffalo |
| 07:23.30 | Mikma | blue blocks are weaponbuffs, green blocks are buffs and red are debuffs |
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| 07:23.56 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 07:24.02 | Mikma | hi ckknight |
| 07:24.34 | dreamss | oh lol |
| 07:24.52 | dreamss | thanks |
| 07:25.32 | sylvanaar | whats everyone up to? |
| 07:25.55 | ckknight | just got back from class, sylvanaar |
| 07:26.11 | Mikma | yeah same |
| 07:26.12 | sylvanaar | aussie? |
| 07:26.15 | Mikma | 2h lunchbreak |
| 07:27.05 | Mikma | http://uifiles.worldofwar.net/upload/pics/Wacky_20061024.jpg |
| 07:27.09 | Mikma | cutest font ever |
| 07:27.20 | Mikma | (the one in middle) |
| 07:27.37 | sylvanaar | kinda flistoneish |
| 07:32.23 | weab | that screenshot makes me want to barf |
| 07:32.33 | weab | those fonts are all horrible |
| 07:33.38 | ckknight | sylvanaar, Hawaii |
| 07:37.56 | Mikma | yeah ckknight is our lame surfer-dude |
| 07:38.07 | ckknight | I don't surf |
| 07:38.10 | ckknight | no one here surfs |
| 07:38.21 | ckknight | I'm also photosensitive, the sun hurts me |
| 07:38.42 | weab | that's called vampirism |
| 07:39.00 | ckknight | no, it's called photosensitivity. |
| 07:39.30 | ckknight | basically means I have to wear sunglasses when I go outside |
| 07:39.42 | Aim2 | without them can't see |
| 07:39.56 | ckknight | yep. |
| 07:40.13 | Mikma | ckknight: you like drinking blood? :D |
| 07:40.19 | Aim2 | alot of sun |
| 07:40.26 | ckknight | no, Mikma |
| 07:40.27 | Mikma | "I'M MELTING! I'M MELTING! OH WHATTA WORLD!" |
| 07:40.32 | Aim2 | but i'm not photosensitive |
| 07:40.42 | Mikma | i love sun |
| 07:40.49 | Aim2 | to |
| 07:40.53 | Aim2 | but not in the eyes |
| 07:40.58 | Mikma | true |
| 07:41.05 | Mikma | but i still love sun |
| 07:41.08 | Aim2 | sun on the beach |
| 07:41.42 | omega__ | anyone know if Buffalo can place certain buffs at the same time ever time? |
| 07:41.43 | Kalamadi | Rawr |
| 07:41.52 | omega__ | so I can with a glance see what I am missing? |
| 07:41.59 | Kalamadi | I hate the sun. I used to live in NH and was forced to more to FL. |
| 07:42.11 | Mikma | omega__: no |
| 07:42.14 | Kalamadi | I nearly cried when the temperature dropped below 50 deg F |
| 07:42.17 | omega__ | ok |
| 07:42.18 | omega__ | :p |
| 07:42.28 | Mikma | sun is rare in this country :D |
| 07:42.34 | Mikma | we're going to have a winter soon |
| 07:42.59 | Mikma | some days ago there actually was snow falling from the sky |
| 07:43.34 | Mikma | atm: 10:24: 2.0°C |
| 07:43.38 | Kalamadi | Snow...how nostalgic |
| 07:43.40 | Mikma | ok well 30mins ago |
| 07:43.44 | omega__ | Mikma: in finland? |
| 07:43.48 | Mikma | omega__: aye |
| 07:43.59 | Kalamadi | Mikma: Well, uh. To help clarify my situation |
| 07:44.28 | Mikma | Kalamadi: yes? |
| 07:44.31 | Kalamadi | Mikma: I moved from the most northern section to the most southern section of the eastern coast of the US. |
| 07:44.56 | Mikma | Kalamadi: yeah to florida if i did understand correctly |
| 07:45.43 | Kalamadi | A difference of around 1400 miles or 2250 kilometers. |
| 07:45.46 | Aim2 | at the sea has a temp. of 29 celcius. |
| 07:45.53 | Aim2 | at = atm |
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| 07:46.04 | Aim2 | and mine swimming pool is allot warmer |
| 07:46.08 | Aim2 | 30 a 32 i guess |
| 07:46.09 | omega__ | someone needs a spanking |
| 07:46.14 | omega__ | here its -3 outside |
| 07:46.15 | omega__ | c |
| 07:46.47 | Mikma | 29c .. oh gee that's pretty warm :P |
| 07:46.47 | Aim2 | sorry :P |
| 07:46.55 | Aim2 | uhuh |
| 07:47.05 | Aim2 | at night the sea is warmer then the sky :P |
| 07:47.12 | supster | anyone have experience with adding multiple fubar plugins from one addon? i'm having a bit of trouble |
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| 07:48.45 | supster | no? :( |
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| 07:49.20 | Kalamadi | 'fraid not, supster. |
| 07:49.30 | Kalamadi | If you explain your problem in detail, we can try to help by proxy, I suppose. |
| 07:49.33 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1837.msg55383#msg55383 |
| 07:49.41 | ckknight | supster, it's quite possible. |
| 07:49.42 | Mikma | i hope this makes them understand at last |
| 07:49.58 | supster | alright, let me detail my issue |
| 07:50.27 | ckknight | you have 1 minute, 45 seconds |
| 07:50.43 | supster | in one addon, i'm creating two FubarPlugins |
| 07:50.45 | supster | like so: |
| 07:50.53 | supster | StonesFu.Healthstones = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceDB-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceDebug-2.0", "FuBarPlugin-2.0") |
| 07:50.59 | supster | StonesFu.Shards = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceDB-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceDebug-2.0", "FuBarPlugin-2.0") |
| 07:51.24 | ckknight | k |
| 07:51.32 | Elkano | ckknight, besides the problems with hooking the chat frames OnEvent code, why do you have to hide the join messages? Iirc I'm not getting any join messages for ItemDB's DistChat since I simply don't register the channel to any chat frame on joining. |
| 07:51.39 | dreamss | anyone know of lock addons that work on bc? |
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| 07:51.44 | supster | on load, I get an error saying FuBarPluginStonesFuFrame:SetPoint(); trying to anchor to itself |
| 07:52.00 | supster | I'm guessing it's because FuBar is using the same name (StonesFu) for both plugins |
| 07:52.03 | Mikma | i hate Bartender2 whiners. |
| 07:52.08 | Mikma | ckknight: make them stop :( |
| 07:52.08 | ckknight | Elkano, better safe than sorry. it also hides whispers and whatnot |
| 07:52.13 | Greywind | lol just saw the post |
| 07:52.29 | supster | I tried defining different names using StonesFu.Healthstones.name = "whatever"; and the same for StonesFu.Shards |
| 07:52.31 | supster | but no luck |
| 07:52.31 | ckknight | supster, okay. |
| 07:52.36 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:52.37 | ckknight | odd |
| 07:52.40 | ckknight | that should've done it |
| 07:52.42 | ckknight | set .title |
| 07:52.45 | ckknight | see if that works. |
| 07:52.48 | supster | i mean the very first two lines of the file are: |
| 07:52.48 | supster | StonesFu.Shards = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceDB-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceDebug-2.0", "FuBarPlugin-2.0") |
| 07:52.48 | supster | StonesFu.Shards.name = "StonesFuShards"; |
| 07:52.51 | ckknight | and your time is up. |
| 07:52.51 | supster | hmm okay |
| 07:53.00 | ckknight | I'll be back in 30 |
| 07:53.11 | Elkano | well, I see the problem and for whispers it still holds. Just wanted to let you know that at least the join stuff seems to be not needed |
| 07:53.32 | supster | that worked |
| 07:53.35 | supster | thanks so much <3 |
| 07:53.56 | dreamss | god damn it |
| 07:54.18 | dreamss | anyone have any idea why my bars wont work when i eneter combar |
| 07:54.23 | dreamss | combat? |
| 07:54.50 | ckknight | supster, ;-) |
| 07:55.22 | Mikma | ,"From what I can gather I seem to be missing a bar O.o, If I Shift+ Mousewheel Up I get access to a bar which I could use as a 'normal' bar (call it Bar9 for this excerise) with Bongos. In other words I could have Bar9 showing all the time and wouldn't be required to Shift + Mousescroll Up to gain acess to it. Any ideas?" |
| 07:55.30 | Mikma | why do people need that feature? |
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| 07:57.15 | Greywind | I'm sorry, my brother plays a hunter and a warlock both of which use a ton of buttons and he never needs that many bars |
| 07:57.49 | Mikma | Greywind: that's right.. :P |
| 07:58.10 | Greywind | he uses his scroll wheel to page his bars :) |
| 07:58.19 | Greywind | he is quite good at it |
| 07:58.21 | Health | Then he can't be fast |
| 07:58.24 | Mikma | that's why i pointed once again to DAB :P |
| 07:58.30 | omega__ | Mikma: if its any help, I love Bartender2 |
| 07:58.53 | Mikma | omega__: well i love you then too |
| 07:58.58 | omega__ | hihi |
| 07:59.12 | Mikma | i should start looking throught the code agian |
| 07:59.23 | Greywind | Health: no he is quite fast, all of his essential skills are in the open while all unessential skills are hidden and he can shift to it as needed |
| 07:59.23 | Mikma | there has been so mane changes in it that i don't know how it works anymore ;D |
| 07:59.27 | Kalamadi | Will the round action button addon make Flexbar2 support? :O |
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| 08:00.04 | Mikma | Kalamadi: poke Sairen when he comes online :) |
| 08:00.14 | omega__ | my biggest problem atm is that something is resetting some (not all) keybindings each time I log in and out |
| 08:00.19 | Greywind | I would say he beats me in duels as proof, but I'm a resto druid so it doesnt really prove my point >.< |
| 08:00.21 | dreamss | anyone know why would Bartender2 bars wont work after i enter combat? |
| 08:00.40 | omega__ | dreamss: in TBC? |
| 08:00.49 | dreamss | yah |
| 08:00.57 | Mikma | dreamss: druid / warrior? |
| 08:01.01 | dreamss | lock |
| 08:01.12 | Mikma | then how come "wont work" |
| 08:01.24 | dreamss | any bar button wont cast after i enter combar |
| 08:01.26 | Kalamadi | Mikma: I wonder how cnc is doing with development... I'm a little upset because I wrote slashcommands for him and he scrapped them on the next revision :/ |
| 08:01.26 | dreamss | combat |
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| 08:02.41 | Greywind | whoa i have +5 karma on the forums, when did that happen lol? |
| 08:03.02 | [Ammo] | stop paying off people |
| 08:03.07 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 08:03.12 | dreamss | castint wont work, items do |
| 08:03.17 | Mikma | Kalamadi: to be honest, he's an ass :) |
| 08:03.22 | dreamss | man i cant type sorry |
| 08:03.53 | [Ammo] | wtf |
| 08:04.00 | [Ammo] | why do people think I am the ClosetGnome author |
| 08:04.04 | [Ammo] | and send me stupid messages |
| 08:04.08 | Kalamadi | Mikma: I was all like, hey, you want slashcommands? Sure, I'll just teach myself LUA and ACE... |
| 08:04.12 | Kalamadi | *next day* |
| 08:04.14 | Mikma | [Ammo]: because they hate the author and they got you in mind then |
| 08:04.16 | Kalamadi | Here you go~ |
| 08:04.17 | [Ammo] | quote: "SINCE LAST PATACH I CAN'T SWITCH WHE I PASS IN CAT OR BEAR FORM I CAN'T UDERSTANDA WHY" |
| 08:04.33 | kergoth | hahah |
| 08:04.51 | [Ammo] | how to utterly destroy this persons sanity |
| 08:05.02 | [Ammo] | grind his selfesteem to dust |
| 08:05.06 | Mikma | purl: poke [Ammo] |
| 08:05.17 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind [Ammo], pokes [Ammo] repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 08:05.17 | Greywind | lol [Ammo] |
| 08:05.23 | Greywind | lol |
| 08:05.23 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 08:05.29 | [Ammo] | purl: hate Mikma |
| 08:05.43 | [Ammo] | stupid bot |
| 08:05.44 | Kalamadi | purl's not on your side. |
| 08:05.49 | Mikma | owned. |
| 08:05.53 | [Ammo] | ~insult Mikma |
| 08:05.55 | Kalamadi | He might be stupid, but he does what he's told. |
| 08:06.14 | Kalamadi | ROBOT FIGHT! |
| 08:06.19 | Mikma | we need a ~whalecry |
| 08:06.41 | Arrowmaster | or a ~deathcoil |
| 08:07.04 | Kalamadi | Whoa, now |
| 08:07.06 | Galencia | soooooooo, now that im with the euro crew, can someone point me in the right direction of clique plugin writing? |
| 08:07.11 | Kalamadi | Can someone explain this petcoil thing to me? |
| 08:07.17 | Greywind | finally dueced yay! |
| 08:08.30 | Kalamadi | Anyone? ;_; |
| 08:08.46 | [Ammo] | clique plugin writing, euhm, check some existing plugins and check how the functions are used in the addons |
| 08:09.05 | [Ammo] | for instance, check the OnClick in oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua and the oRA2_MTF.lua plugin |
| 08:09.13 | [Ammo] | pretty self-explanatory |
| 08:09.13 | Galencia | roger that |
| 08:09.15 | Galencia | cheers |
| 08:09.17 | Mikma | or, make [Ammo] do it |
| 08:09.27 | [Ammo] | ~whalefu Mikma |
| 08:09.28 | Mikma | say that you like oRA2 and WitchHunt etc |
| 08:09.40 | Mikma | then he's like "oh gee thanks, well ok i can do it" |
| 08:09.40 | Galencia | well i do, but thats besides the point. :p |
| 08:10.02 | Mikma | purl: lol [Ammo] |
| 08:10.09 | dreamss | well for some reason my hotbar buttons wont work when clicked |
| 08:10.11 | kergoth | ~herring Mikma |
| 08:10.12 | purl | ACTION whacks Mikma on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 08:11.33 | Kalamadi | I'd hate to have him go to waste, y'know. |
| 08:11.36 | Greywind | ohnoes! |
| 08:11.43 | Kalamadi | >_> <_< |
| 08:11.45 | Kalamadi | You want some? |
| 08:11.52 | Greywind | >.>...sure |
| 08:11.54 | Greywind | :P |
| 08:12.24 | Galencia | [Ammo]: hmm, so, do i have to modify for example aguf, if i want to change the clicking behaviour? |
| 08:13.03 | Kalamadi | Bah! I'm using some manner of cooldown monitor for my warlock, but I don't know which one it is |
| 08:13.14 | Kalamadi | It's like having a computer in your house which is up and running, responds to ping, etc |
| 08:13.19 | Kalamadi | But you can't physically find it |
| 08:13.26 | [Ammo] | Galencia: what do you mean |
| 08:13.38 | [Ammo] | as in what do you want to accomplish |
| 08:14.15 | Galencia | [Ammo]: ok, well, what i want to do is this: currently if i set up a right click handler for clique, it will do what i want it to do on aguf's raidframes, but it will also affect the player frame and target frame, which id like to leave as default |
| 08:14.45 | Galencia | clad said i should look into plugins to achieve that |
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| 08:15.16 | Laricwork | galencia you kinda have to hack the clique plugin to achieve that |
| 08:15.22 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:15.30 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 08:15.33 | Laricwork | lo |
| 08:15.42 | Galencia | the aguf clique plugin? |
| 08:15.45 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 08:17.13 | Laricwork | I would assume that aguf is passing raid1-40 if you click on a raid frame and player,party1-5 if you click the 'normal' frames |
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| 08:17.44 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r15153 10GratuityLib/Lib/GratuityLib.lua: GratuityLib: add a local print function, since its used all over the place yet isn't defined anywhere... |
| 08:18.02 | Laricwork | just hope it isnt cleaver enough to translate raid1 to party2 if you click a rid frame with a party member |
| 08:18.03 | Galencia | and what exactly is a clique plugin, so i know what im looking for? :) |
| 08:18.13 | kergoth | look in the Clique directory perhaps? |
| 08:18.18 | kergoth | at the .. plugins? |
| 08:18.35 | Mikma | Greywind: "reading comprehension skills 4tw!" is this for me or others? :D |
| 08:18.41 | Galencia | ahha |
| 08:18.46 | Greywind | others :P |
| 08:18.55 | Galencia | see i was looking in aguf's directory for it.. some might say a little too logical! |
| 08:18.57 | Laricwork | Interface\AddOns\Clique\Plugins\Clique_agUnitFrames.lua is the file you are looking for |
| 08:19.05 | Galencia | yup, got it now |
| 08:20.56 | Galencia | so basically in the OnClick bit i need to do some checking to either the target or the current frame and not pass it to clique's handler |
| 08:21.02 | Galencia | neat, i can do that, i think.. |
| 08:21.16 | Laricwork | you kinda have to hack it to check for the presence of raid.. in the self.unit before passing it on to clique |
| 08:21.30 | Galencia | aye |
| 08:22.17 | ckknight | back |
| 08:22.25 | Laricwork | this is the only thing I dont like about clique that I cannot define what frames I want to use it on.. but other than that it is lovely :P |
| 08:23.13 | Galencia | whats the difference between 'this' and 'self' in lua? |
| 08:23.27 | ckknight | this is a global |
| 08:23.30 | ckknight | it's something WoW made up |
| 08:23.53 | Galencia | ah |
| 08:24.17 | Srosh | *g* http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?msgnum=932&page=7&forum=general |
| 08:25.36 | Mi|es | lol |
| 08:25.38 | Mi|es | "No, never. First, the makers pissed me off by spamming propaganda about thier superiority on every forum including mine. Second, Ace is a crutch for those who haven't studied lua. " |
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| 08:25.46 | yacoob | Hehe. |
| 08:25.50 | ckknight | wtf. |
| 08:26.03 | ckknight | let's fucking spam his ass with propaganda! |
| 08:26.05 | Mi|es | that thread is instant flamewar |
| 08:26.05 | Galencia | another reason not to use discord mods, ever :) |
| 08:26.15 | yacoob | Loz will show YOU how it's supposed to be done, you incompetent crutch-walking ace2 advocates! :D |
| 08:26.29 | omega__ | doktoreas: I cant send privmsg, not registered nick :p |
| 08:26.32 | yacoob | Galencia, well, the attitude of Loz is... troublesome |
| 08:26.49 | Tem | ckknight, I warn you not to do such a thing |
| 08:26.55 | ckknight | "Ace is a crutch for those who haven't studied lua" |
| 08:26.57 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 08:26.59 | ckknight | Tem, I won't |
| 08:27.13 | yacoob | For he studied, and he saw the light :) |
| 08:27.24 | yacoob | And he know it was good. |
| 08:27.30 | ckknight | okay, what Ace2 is actually is like tractor |
| 08:27.37 | Srosh | typical lone fighter programmer type =P |
| 08:27.43 | ckknight | it lets you do things easier than you would with a shovel. |
| 08:27.53 | Galencia | thats like saying libc is a crutch for those that didnt study C |
| 08:28.16 | ckknight | exactly. |
| 08:28.18 | yacoob | but of course! |
| 08:28.21 | Galencia | to which the answer is, no you moron, its how you write code. |
| 08:28.25 | yacoob | everything should be written in assembler! |
| 08:28.41 | yacoob | written by whistling into /dev/dsp! |
| 08:28.48 | Kalamadi | *sigh* yacoob, you make me miss old-fashioned demos |
| 08:29.03 | Galencia | cat /dev/urandom > elite_code.c |
| 08:29.14 | yacoob | Kalamadi, I just watched Second Reality last week. Still amazing :) |
| 08:29.21 | Arrowmaster | i happy ive never grouped with Loz since he plays on my server |
| 08:29.26 | Fritti | I have a DVD with 2nd reality on it :) |
| 08:29.33 | kergoth | hehe, demo scene.. ah memories |
| 08:29.38 | kergoth | sweet, i remember that one |
| 08:29.43 | yacoob | Long live mode 13h :D |
| 08:29.45 | ckknight | I don't like Lozareth. |
| 08:29.53 | Fritti | http://www.lynnemusic.com/mindcandy.html |
| 08:29.54 | Fritti | this one |
| 08:29.56 | Fritti | it rocks |
| 08:29.59 | kergoth | i have unreal on a floppy somewhere (not the fps :P) |
| 08:30.00 | Fritti | get it if you can |
| 08:30.05 | kergoth | nice |
| 08:30.18 | omega__ | Fritti: I have an old computer with dos etc, just to be able to run 2nd reality :) |
| 08:30.26 | doktoreas | omega__, :) i have got some problem with updated |
| 08:30.34 | omega__ | doktoreas: ok? |
| 08:30.36 | doktoreas | i paste the error with no paste |
| 08:30.40 | omega__ | yes |
| 08:30.53 | yacoob | omega__, isn't dosbox easier? |
| 08:31.03 | yacoob | (but not l33t enough, yes... :) |
| 08:31.09 | Mikma | WOHOO Lozareth hates Ace-community! |
| 08:31.22 | doktoreas | http://rafb.net/paste/results/ijQFyp29.html |
| 08:31.25 | yacoob | Anyway, Loz's smart, but very difficult to interact with... |
| 08:31.33 | Tem | lots of people hate the Ace community |
| 08:31.36 | ckknight | btw, is that a real pic of Lozareth? |
| 08:31.39 | Tem | I'm not sure I'm not one of them |
| 08:31.41 | Mikma | good for them |
| 08:31.42 | Tem | ckknight, yes, that's really him |
| 08:31.46 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:31.53 | ckknight | now I don't feel as bad. |
| 08:32.03 | omega__ | yacoob: I cant get my GUS MAX in dosbox :p |
| 08:32.16 | omega__ | besides, I want that authentic feeling |
| 08:32.28 | yacoob | omega__, good for you :) |
| 08:32.33 | Mikma | buy my GUS MAX :D |
| 08:32.38 | ckknight | Tem, so how's AceGUI-2.0? |
| 08:32.40 | Mikma | all you need is a ISA-board |
| 08:32.41 | yacoob | BUY MY SHINY GUS MAX! |
| 08:32.45 | yacoob | AHem... |
| 08:32.56 | Kalamadi | Who's leading development of Chronometer? |
| 08:32.58 | omega__ | doktoreas: your missing version.pm |
| 08:33.02 | Galencia | the only problem i have with the ace community is a sort of too many cooks type thing |
| 08:33.03 | Tem | ckknight, for a FuBar plugin frame, it only **needs** a height, right? |
| 08:33.05 | Mikma | well ok i was joking, i will never sell my GUS |
| 08:33.18 | ckknight | Tem, hrm, what do you mean? |
| 08:33.19 | Tem | er, only needs a width |
| 08:33.22 | ckknight | creating your own custom frame? |
| 08:33.23 | omega__ | doktoreas: but I thought that was included |
| 08:33.25 | Tem | aye |
| 08:33.34 | ckknight | well, FuBarPlugin-2.0 has a creation function |
| 08:33.36 | ckknight | which handles height |
| 08:33.42 | ckknight | width is what you can control |
| 08:33.43 | Tem | yeah, I won't be using that |
| 08:33.43 | Kalamadi | Second question! |
| 08:33.47 | ckknight | why not? |
| 08:33.51 | doktoreas | i synched directly with svn co |
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| 08:33.58 | Tem | my frame is more complex than you're thinking |
| 08:34.03 | Kalamadi | Would Bhattu mind if I altered the GUI portion of Chronometer? |
| 08:34.06 | ckknight | don't expect help from me, then |
| 08:34.14 | ckknight | I'm not sure how it works outside of a FBP-2.0 context |
| 08:34.14 | Mikma | hmm i think i still have my account on loz forums |
| 08:34.16 | ckknight | sorry |
| 08:34.23 | Mikma | maybe i should post something about Ace2 there too hehe |
| 08:34.24 | Kalamadi | I tried setting the candybar height and ended up with 16.10030076 or something crazy |
| 08:34.40 | Tem | all I need to know is how height is handled |
| 08:34.53 | ckknight | Mikma, "libc is a crutch for those that didnt study C" |
| 08:34.58 | dafire | hi all ;) |
| 08:35.05 | ckknight | Tem, look at the code? |
| 08:35.13 | ckknight | hey dafire |
| 08:35.21 | Tem | too much to go through to find what I'm looking for |
| 08:35.27 | ckknight | Tem, sorry, then |
| 08:35.56 | dafire | a question for the guys in beta.. did you all got your key on the same weekday ? are they send during the maintanace times ? |
| 08:35.57 | Mikma | ckknight: http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=general&msgnum=932&page=7#3938 |
| 08:36.09 | yacoob | Only thing I lack here guys, is some rules of releasing stuff to the public :) |
| 08:36.16 | Galencia | hey thats my quote |
| 08:36.19 | ckknight | Mikma, I wouldn't respond anymore after that |
| 08:36.20 | Galencia | i want royalties |
| 08:36.26 | ckknight | okay |
| 08:36.32 | ckknight | Mikma, you owe Galencia 3 air miles |
| 08:36.33 | Mikma | ckknight: well i don't wan't to either :D |
| 08:36.37 | omega__ | doktoreas: http://search.cpan.org/~jpeacock/version-0.6701/lib/version.pod |
| 08:36.37 | dreamss | ok i grabbed EpoxyTBC_r1024.zip and its pretty much all ace, one of the addons cause clicks on the hotbar do not action at all |
| 08:36.48 | Galencia | like, free help with anything i want for the next 5 lameass questions i think of! |
| 08:36.58 | yacoob | Heh, btw. |
| 08:37.04 | omega__ | doktoreas: and thanks, will add it to prereqs |
| 08:37.07 | Galencia | adn yes cpan |
| 08:37.12 | ckknight | Galencia, lol, you'd get that anyway ;-) |
| 08:37.13 | yacoob | I wonder how much fanboys Ace2 has, comparing to Discord's. |
| 08:37.13 | Galencia | the cruth for people who cant do perl |
| 08:37.20 | Galencia | crutch* |
| 08:37.23 | [Ammo] | yacoob: too fucking many |
| 08:37.25 | omega__ | doktoreas: ohh, its already there |
| 08:37.27 | ckknight | yacoob, I'd say Discord has more, cause it's prettiful |
| 08:37.33 | omega__ | doktoreas: be sure to run perl ./Makefile.PL |
| 08:37.37 | yacoob | [Ammo], that's wonderful! Can I have your babies? :D |
| 08:37.40 | omega__ | as it will tell you what deps your are missing |
| 08:37.42 | Galencia | i used to be a big fan of discord |
| 08:37.48 | ckknight | me too |
| 08:37.50 | Galencia | till i found out exactly how much crap it had in it |
| 08:37.50 | dafire | me too |
| 08:37.57 | [Ammo] | I never used discord |
| 08:37.59 | yacoob | Well, I used it long time. |
| 08:38.06 | yacoob | And it is good, yet laggish and memory hungry. |
| 08:38.06 | dreamss | yacoob, i find it lame when devs go on epeen fights :( |
| 08:38.08 | [Ammo] | for some odd reason I couldn't get my head around its config screens |
| 08:38.14 | [Ammo] | installed DAB |
| 08:38.19 | [Ammo] | checked the config |
| 08:38.23 | [Ammo] | removed it |
| 08:38.24 | yacoob | Simply, the code is too big for one person. Especially as light-headed as Loz |
| 08:38.29 | Galencia | the one thing that annoyed me about discord is all the config screens use weird layers |
| 08:38.33 | omega__ | I tried to use Discord |
| 08:38.39 | omega__ | I just couldnt configure it |
| 08:38.40 | ckknight | yacoob, seems that Lozareth is a pretty big person himself, though |
| 08:38.41 | yacoob | But, one thing Discord has for granted |
| 08:38.41 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 08:38.43 | Galencia | you can put stuff over the top of the config dialogue, and never use it :) |
| 08:38.48 | yacoob | ckknight, haha :DD |
| 08:38.48 | ckknight | fat people. |
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| 08:38.59 | dreamss | i can go from stock to DAB in 5minutes tho, which is nice |
| 08:39.11 | ckknight | Also, according to a recent French study, fat people are stupid. |
| 08:39.15 | ckknight | lemme get the link. |
| 08:39.16 | Galencia | lol |
| 08:39.43 | ckknight | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/15/nweight15.xml |
| 08:39.45 | ckknight | there we go |
| 08:39.55 | yacoob | It's the ease of configuration that Discord has as big advantage |
| 08:40.08 | ckknight | true. |
| 08:40.11 | ckknight | Discord does have that |
| 08:40.18 | ckknight | and I commend it for its configurability |
| 08:40.28 | ckknight | now if only it didn't leak like a sieve. |
| 08:40.48 | kergoth | "Alcohol is a gatway drug to more alcohol." |
| 08:40.56 | ckknight | lol. |
| 08:40.57 | dafire | i really liked the way to add rules to the buttons to swap action id's, hide etc.. |
| 08:41.24 | yacoob | look at the amounts of custom layouts for DUF. Look at the amounts of custom layouts for agUF. |
| 08:41.30 | doktoreas | omega__, building version :) |
| 08:41.40 | omega__ | doktoreas: :) also check that you have the other deps |
| 08:41.56 | Galencia | actually one of my biggest problems with DuF was its configurabilit |
| 08:41.56 | doktoreas | gentoo take care of them :D |
| 08:42.02 | Galencia | too much damn stuff to set up :) |
| 08:43.48 | Tem | Mikma, delete your post |
| 08:44.16 | omega__ | I could never get them too look even close to what I wanted :p |
| 08:44.17 | omega__ | I havent been able to for any custom userframes |
| 08:44.17 | ckknight | here's a better link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=410505&in_page_id=1770 |
| 08:44.17 | yacoob | I had a neat layout of DAB, and I was trying to recreate it with Bongos. And I suceeded. |
| 08:44.17 | omega__ | except perfectraid, if that counts as a userframe thingy |
| 08:44.18 | Kalamadi | I have a special gaming pad that I use and the only actionbars I can tolerate is Flexbar :/ |
| 08:44.50 | ckknight | yes, Mikma, I agree |
| 08:45.06 | Galencia | yes who would say such a thing.. |
| 08:45.07 | ckknight | Tem's post is much more coherent and viable and representative of Ace2's mission statement |
| 08:45.22 | Srosh | lol, "Homer Simpson effect" - I like that |
| 08:45.27 | Srosh | +phrase |
| 08:45.31 | yacoob | Ace2 Corp. Syndicated in 2006. |
| 08:45.42 | ckknight | I meant Ace's mission statement :-P |
| 08:45.53 | ckknight | do we even have a mission statement? |
| 08:46.00 | yacoob | "For the Horde!" |
| 08:46.02 | Tem | no |
| 08:46.03 | yacoob | no, wait... |
| 08:46.05 | ckknight | yes, Horde ftw. |
| 08:46.10 | yacoob | "For Gnomeregan!" |
| 08:46.14 | Galencia | the irony of "ace" "2" will amuse me for years to come |
| 08:46.16 | yacoob | wait, still not there... |
| 08:46.27 | ckknight | Galencia, Deuce ;-) |
| 08:46.27 | yacoob | "<murloc sound>!" |
| 08:46.36 | yacoob | Voila! |
| 08:46.37 | ckknight | Mmmrrrggglll! |
| 08:46.39 | [Ammo] | just a random mission statement from a mission statement generator: "We will interactively empower leading-edge manufactured products for 100% customer satisfaction. |
| 08:46.44 | Galencia | ckknight: exactlu.. :) |
| 08:47.03 | Galencia | thats a big rack |
| 08:48.21 | Greywind | o.0 |
| 08:48.33 | Galencia | actually, thats a relatively small rack |
| 08:48.54 | omega__ | most racks are 19" wide atleast? :) |
| 08:49.09 | Galencia | depends on what kind of "rack" you are referring to |
| 08:49.16 | Greywind | hehe |
| 08:49.35 | Tem | Mikma, DELETE YOUR POST |
| 08:49.41 | Tem | I'm not asking |
| 08:49.46 | ckknight | Tem, he's away |
| 08:49.47 | yacoob | Filled with Sun hardware :D |
| 08:50.02 | Tem | *growl* |
| 08:50.11 | yacoob | Sparc IV CPU crits you for 2400 computing damage |
| 08:50.40 | kergoth | i like sparcs |
| 08:50.47 | kergoth | keyboards without capslock ftw |
| 08:51.03 | Galencia | BUT HOW DO YOU DO STUFF LIKE THIS?! |
| 08:51.12 | Fritti | just hold your left pinky on shift |
| 08:51.14 | kergoth | :'( |
| 08:51.15 | Tem | HOLD SHIFT, NOOB |
| 08:51.16 | Galencia | rsi :( |
| 08:51.19 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r15154 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua: sRaidFrames: Bad translation, try again |
| 08:51.28 | dafire | ^^ |
| 08:53.09 | kergoth | hmm, is there a better whispercast? |
| 08:53.24 | kergoth | seems like corkfu has the cast queue thing, does it have whisper trigger support? |
| 08:53.33 | ckknight | Tem, why'd you sigh at his post? |
| 08:53.36 | ckknight | I think that's a bad idea |
| 08:53.40 | dreamss | anyone know of any lock addons for BC? shard counters and stuff |
| 08:53.49 | ckknight | it'd be better to not acknowledge it |
| 08:53.53 | doktoreas | omega__, now wow-get say that:Can't locate Moose.pm in @INC |
| 08:53.57 | shift | hold me, thrill me |
| 08:54.13 | Tem | I can agree with that |
| 08:54.55 | doktoreas | omega__, http://rafb.net/paste/results/HTNqEK13.html |
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| 08:55.20 | yacoob | Hm |
| 08:55.51 | yacoob | ErisLib, ace2 enabled version of Discord :> |
| 08:56.33 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 08:56.43 | ckknight | there's bad karma involved in that |
| 08:56.49 | yacoob | Just letting my thoughts flow :> |
| 08:56.50 | Tekkub | can't be done |
| 08:56.58 | ckknight | it could, Tekkub |
| 08:57.00 | Tekkub | AceDB won't save defaults to the savedvar |
| 08:57.05 | omega__ | doktoreas: do as I said? run perl ./Makefile.PL |
| 08:57.06 | ckknight | but I'd say it'd need to be written from scratch |
| 08:57.07 | Tekkub | so no, it can't be done |
| 08:57.17 | omega__ | it will tell you what modules you are missing (in this case, its Moose) |
| 08:57.24 | doktoreas | i did it |
| 08:57.37 | doktoreas | omega__, and also make, and make test |
| 08:57.42 | Tem | ckknight, does fubar have a problem with plugin frames being hidden? |
| 08:57.44 | ckknight | Tekkub, yes it could, if you had a translation at the beginning |
| 08:57.48 | ckknight | Tem, no |
| 08:57.54 | Tem | mmm good |
| 08:57.57 | Tekkub | you're not getting me :P |
| 08:57.58 | ckknight | not to my knowledge |
| 08:58.02 | ckknight | Tekkub, guess not |
| 08:58.07 | Tem | I mean, like, on the bar taking up space, but hidden |
| 08:58.08 | ckknight | oh |
| 08:58.10 | ckknight | I understnad |
| 08:58.13 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 08:58.14 | ckknight | tricksy. |
| 08:58.14 | omega__ | doktoreas: you cant have, as it should have warned on perl Makefile.PL "warning: missing blalbabla" |
| 08:58.24 | Tekkub | remember the whole reason AceDB doesn't save default values? |
| 08:58.27 | Tekkub | oh yes... Discord |
| 08:58.28 | Tekkub | :P |
| 08:58.47 | ckknight | Tem, hrm... I'd recommend SetAlpha(0) |
| 08:58.47 | ckknight | true hidden will mess up |
| 08:59.03 | Tem | bleh, I want to use true hidden |
| 08:59.10 | Tekkub | it's like running a humidifier and dehumidifier in the same room |
| 08:59.12 | Tem | true hidden stops OnUpdates |
| 08:59.19 | Tekkub | AceDB + Discord == implosion |
| 08:59.19 | doktoreas | omega__, http://rafb.net/paste/results/DlbomC81.html |
| 08:59.21 | Tekkub | : |
| 08:59.22 | Tekkub | :) |
| 08:59.33 | Tem | fine, I'll start and stop updates by adding/removing the handler |
| 08:59.46 | yacoob | Acecord. |
| 08:59.52 | yacoob | Disce2 |
| 09:00.09 | Tekkub | Deucecord, duh |
| 09:00.10 | omega__ | doktoreas: do you see all the lines starting with "Warning: prerequisite" and ends with "not found"? |
| 09:00.29 | omega__ | you need to install the perlmodule between those two |
| 09:00.39 | doktoreas | omega__, oh sorry then i thought they where only warning :D |
| 09:01.25 | omega__ | hehe |
| 09:01.32 | yacoob | Actually, it's funny. |
| 09:02.13 | yacoob | To think that someone uses such big words, in a thing such ireelevant... :) |
| 09:02.21 | omega__ | doktoreas: lunchtime here now, tough, good luck |
| 09:02.30 | ckknight | Accord |
| 09:02.54 | yacoob | Accord, Escord and Unisono |
| 09:03.00 | ckknight | Tem, use AceEvent or something for OnUpdates? |
| 09:03.11 | Tem | nah |
| 09:03.32 | ckknight | someone help this guy: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38124056&sid=1 |
| 09:03.33 | Tem | I'm writing a library for use in a FuBar plugin |
| 09:03.40 | ckknight | only bad stuff I can see is CTRA... |
| 09:03.42 | Tem | but I don't intend it to be solely used for that |
| 09:03.45 | *** join/#wowace andg (n=andg@we.are.exlnt.dk) |
| 09:03.55 | ckknight | Tem, what'll it do? |
| 09:04.09 | Tem | this part is a simple dock that lets you drag frames around inside of it |
| 09:04.10 | doktoreas | omega__, ok! Have a good lunch! |
| 09:04.59 | ckknight | Tem, hrm |
| 09:05.21 | ckknight | Tem, also, you could have a blank frame that you created... |
| 09:05.22 | Tem | similar to how you can move fubar plugins around on the bar |
| 09:05.42 | Tem | no extra frames |
| 09:05.47 | Tem | setscript will do fine |
| 09:06.08 | Tem | going for some brain food, then I write the dragging code |
| 09:06.32 | Tem|AFK | oh, before I forget, AceGUI2 is in a mud pit |
| 09:06.40 | ckknight | figured |
| 09:06.43 | ckknight | it seems hard |
| 09:06.44 | Tem|AFK | I need to make some decisions |
| 09:06.44 | Laricwork | ckknight that guy is using xperl.. it is dead slow on old computers for some reason |
| 09:06.50 | Tem|AFK | wrt to 2.0 changes |
| 09:06.52 | ckknight | especially cause it's a moving target |
| 09:07.01 | ckknight | Laricwork, ah |
| 09:07.32 | Tem|AFK | anyway, running to the seven elleven |
| 09:07.34 | Tem|AFK | be back in a few |
| 09:07.53 | Tem|AFK | (wow 2.0 changes) |
| 09:07.55 | Laricwork | the missus was using it on her laptop... everything was like siruppy |
| 09:08.52 | Laricwork | hmm wonder if blizzard will extend the beta soon.. to include more players/developers |
| 09:09.02 | yacoob | perl is nice, but sluggish |
| 09:09.09 | yacoob | lighter than DUF, though |
| 09:09.35 | Laricwork | I want an aguf that looks like perl classic.. but I have never gotten around to make my own layout |
| 09:11.14 | Laricwork | bah.. the time is over 11:00 and not even the realmlist server is up :( |
| 09:11.53 | Galencia | http://ace.pastey.net/1789 |
| 09:11.57 | Galencia | would that work to do what i want? |
| 09:11.59 | Galencia | changes hilighted |
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| 09:12.31 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15155 10oRA2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: Now uses Babble-Spell-2.2, drycoded |
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| 09:18.03 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 09:18.49 | Kalamadi | OMG. |
| 09:18.56 | ckknight | what? |
| 09:18.59 | Kalamadi | I just found a pr0n shoot with WoW on a computer in the background. |
| 09:19.04 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:19.05 | ckknight | link! |
| 09:19.17 | Kalamadi | Uhm. It's sorta on my PC. |
| 09:19.34 | ckknight | Galencia, lemme see |
| 09:19.43 | Kalamadi | I can zip it up and toss it on the HTTP, if you want |
| 09:20.30 | ckknight | Galencia, the line you highlight is very wrong |
| 09:20.34 | Kalamadi | I was going through and the directory was named "wow_lg" |
| 09:20.36 | ckknight | Kalamadi, yea |
| 09:20.44 | Galencia | ckknight: i feared it would be. :) |
| 09:20.45 | Kalamadi | And I thought to myself, yeah, that's probably totally unrelated to WoW... |
| 09:20.54 | ckknight | if not string.find(self.unit, "raid") == nil then |
| 09:20.58 | ckknight | there are a few things wrong |
| 09:21.02 | Galencia | do tell |
| 09:21.06 | ckknight | first off: not alpha == nil |
| 09:21.13 | ckknight | (not alpha) == nil |
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| 09:21.36 | ckknight | which never fires, since not returns a boolean |
| 09:21.54 | Kalamadi | ckknight: http://68.202.83.244/wow_lg.zip |
| 09:21.57 | ckknight | so are you trying to make the inner code fire when self.unit includes raid or if it doesn't? |
| 09:22.06 | Galencia | if it doesnt. |
| 09:22.08 | Galencia | er |
| 09:22.22 | Galencia | if it does. :) |
| 09:22.30 | Kalamadi | ckknight: It's an undead rogue, BTW |
| 09:22.32 | ckknight | if string.find(self.unit, "^raid") then ... end |
| 09:22.36 | ckknight | there you go. |
| 09:22.59 | Galencia | right |
| 09:23.06 | Galencia | C obviously confused my brain there |
| 09:23.26 | ckknight | also, why only in raid? |
| 09:23.27 | Galencia | becuase the way i code in C is never confuse booleans |
| 09:23.36 | Galencia | because i only want custom things to fire for the raid frames |
| 09:23.45 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 09:24.28 | ckknight | also, I'd replace aUF.units[string.gsub(this:GetName(),"aUF","")]:OnClickOld(button) with self:OnClickOld(button) |
| 09:24.35 | ckknight | seems more appropriate |
| 09:24.39 | ckknight | unless I'm missing something |
| 09:24.58 | Galencia | for that you'll have to speak to andg :) |
| 09:25.23 | ckknight | andg, ping! |
| 09:25.42 | Galencia | i guess thats one o fthe things that confuses me about lua.. not having a != operator |
| 09:25.42 | ckknight | I have teh optimizations! |
| 09:25.50 | ckknight | Galencia, ~= |
| 09:25.54 | Galencia | o rly |
| 09:25.58 | ckknight | yarly! |
| 09:26.09 | ckknight | ~yarly |
| 09:26.10 | purl | NO WAI! |
| 09:26.25 | Galencia | so i could do "if string.find(self.unit, "^raid") ~= nil then" ? |
| 09:26.57 | ckknight | you don't want that. |
| 09:27.03 | ckknight | but it'd work |
| 09:27.20 | ckknight | `if string.find(self.unit, "^raid") then` works faster |
| 09:27.27 | ckknight | and you know me, all about speed. |
| 09:27.30 | Galencia | hehe |
| 09:27.39 | Kalamadi | ckknight: Does my archive deliver? |
| 09:27.46 | CIA-17 | 03moonwolf * r15156 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.toc MendeleevGlobals.deDE.lua): Mendeleev: Added Limited deDE translation. |
| 09:27.50 | ckknight | downloaded, lemme see... |
| 09:27.54 | Galencia | well, i dislike strongly promoting things that arent boolean to booleans |
| 09:28.17 | ckknight | Galencia, I used to be that way, but lua's... different |
| 09:28.25 | Galencia | so it would seem. :) |
| 09:28.25 | ckknight | and promoting it to a boolean is slow |
| 09:28.37 | Laricwork | lua isnt about boolean.. it is only comparing it to nil :P |
| 09:29.01 | ckknight | Laricwork, lua has a proper boolean type... |
| 09:29.08 | Gngsk | lua is all about the benjiman's baby |
| 09:29.12 | ckknight | Kalamadi, lol, she's alt-z'd and flying over Durotar |
| 09:29.17 | Laricwork | it isnt using it in comparisons like that though :P |
| 09:29.22 | Galencia | yeah.. its just that in C, if(foo == NULL) is the same as if(!foo), but the former from a style point of view is way way better |
| 09:29.26 | Kalamadi | ckknight: It makes the whole shoot somehow better. |
| 09:29.55 | Kalamadi | ckknight: It's like, you know what I'm doing when I've hidden the UI while on a flightpath? |
| 09:29.57 | ckknight | like "Rogues do it from behind" |
| 09:30.13 | ckknight | Galencia, I agree. |
| 09:30.16 | ckknight | Galencia, in C. |
| 09:30.17 | Kalamadi | A male friend of mine actually wore that shirt on a regular basis |
| 09:30.22 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:30.27 | Galencia | ckknight: ya.. but this isnt C, i get that :) |
| 09:30.29 | Kalamadi | He's the best-equipped rogue on my server >_> |
| 09:30.53 | ckknight | lol, she plays wow for a bit, and gets back to stripping |
| 09:31.06 | ckknight | ooh, she has a mount |
| 09:31.17 | Galencia | she has a mount.. or is mounted? |
| 09:31.25 | Kalamadi | Both. |
| 09:31.28 | Galencia | :) |
| 09:31.44 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:31.44 | ckknight | great photo shoot |
| 09:31.59 | ckknight | you know what would've been cooler? |
| 09:32.01 | ckknight | if she used FuBar. |
| 09:32.16 | Kalamadi | Or any Ace'd unitframe addon |
| 09:32.31 | ckknight | she's using the standard Bliz UI, it seems |
| 09:32.33 | Kalamadi | FuBar would be a little hard to distinguish |
| 09:32.45 | Laricwork | my wife wants one of those t-shirts... rogues do it from behind |
| 09:33.04 | Laricwork | she is an addict though... |
| 09:33.12 | Kalamadi | ckknight: Maybe she's into the whole "pain" thing |
| 09:33.50 | Kalamadi | Laricwork: Beware if she ever goes to the adult store. |
| 09:34.13 | Kalamadi | There's a word missing from that noun there, and I don't know what it is =( |
| 09:34.21 | Kalamadi | It's not a book store, or video store, or... |
| 09:34.51 | snurre | http://youtube.com/watch?v=baoKOx1Ssp0 |
| 09:34.55 | snurre | aleksey vayner ftw |
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| 09:36.41 | ckknight_ | gah |
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| 09:38.27 | Kalamadi | ckknight: If you kill your alternate nick, is it suicide? |
| 09:38.40 | oxman | ^^ |
| 09:38.49 | ckknight | no, more like cloning yourself then having your clone kill you |
| 09:39.04 | ckknight | Kavorianism at its finest |
| 09:39.07 | Kalamadi | Hahaha! |
| 09:39.21 | Kalamadi | There's a picture of Gabe of Penny Arcade's baby |
| 09:39.24 | Kalamadi | Back in '04 |
| 09:39.40 | Kalamadi | And the baby's wearing a one piece with "I CAN'T READ" written on the front |
| 09:39.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:40.38 | Kalamadi | It's like the one time I was tired and fell asleep on my livingroom floor wearing my "temporarily out of service" t-shirt |
| 09:42.34 | omega__ | doktoreas: did you get anywhere? |
| 09:46.07 | Kalamadi | The bobbing apples are larger than my character's head >_> |
| 09:48.09 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15157 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Gothik.lua: BigWigs (Gothik): frFR update |
| 09:48.11 | dafire | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:49.43 | oxman | i want pes6 =( |
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| 09:51.51 | Galencia | Kalamadi: "entertainment"? |
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| 09:53.33 | Kalamadi | Galencia: What of it? |
| 09:53.41 | Galencia | the word you were looking for |
| 09:53.43 | Galencia | i think that might be it |
| 09:53.45 | Kalamadi | Ah, okay. |
| 09:53.52 | Kalamadi | Adult Entertainment Store. |
| 09:57.21 | Kalamadi | Is Buffalo like EBB? |
| 09:57.33 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r15158 10Denial2/ (Denial2.lua Denial2.toc Libs/): |
| 09:57.33 | CIA-17 | Denial2: |
| 09:57.33 | CIA-17 | - Updated to AceHook-2.1 |
| 09:58.22 | [Ammo] | Industrial might like this: http://www.myspace.com/teambongra |
| 09:58.31 | [Ammo] | the slaytronic track is imba :) |
| 09:58.56 | Tem | well, I'm clearly not getting anywhere on this tonight |
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| 10:02.12 | andg | ckknight, pong? |
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| 10:03.33 | doktoreas | omega__, got some problem with perl module in Gentoo |
| 10:06.58 | Kalamadi | God I hate TortoiseSVN |
| 10:06.58 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r15159 10Fizzle/Fizzle.toc: |
| 10:06.58 | CIA-17 | Fizzle: |
| 10:06.58 | CIA-17 | - Updated toc to create a new .zip file |
| 10:07.09 | Kalamadi | The error sound is, like, 5x louder than anything else I'm used to |
| 10:07.41 | andg | hey ckknight_ |
| 10:07.47 | andg | what did you want before? |
| 10:07.58 | andg | Oh, and can you tell if you still have target problems in BC |
| 10:08.01 | andg | with latest rev |
| 10:08.04 | Galencia | andg: |
| 10:08.05 | Galencia | 10:24 <@ckknight> also, I'd replace |
| 10:08.06 | Galencia | aUF.units[string.gsub(this:GetName(),"aUF","")]:OnClickOld(button) with |
| 10:08.06 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.06 | Galencia | 10:24 <@ckknight> seems more appropriate |
| 10:08.08 | Galencia | 10:24 <@ckknight> unless I'm missing something |
| 10:08.10 | Galencia | 10:24 < Galencia> for that you'll have to speak to andg :) |
| 10:08.13 | Galencia | that |
| 10:08.40 | andg | Mmm, sure, change it and commit it (if it works) |
| 10:08.57 | andg | but clique is getting changed for BC so |
| 10:09.36 | Galencia | hmm thats a point, my changes to the clique plugin will get overwritten next time i update wont they |
| 10:09.39 | Galencia | arse |
| 10:09.54 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 10:10.04 | [Ammo] | since SVN knows you changed your local file |
| 10:10.08 | [Ammo] | it'll try and merge changes in |
| 10:10.12 | Galencia | ah but i dont use svn :) |
| 10:10.20 | Galencia | i got told that was wrong and evil :( |
| 10:11.00 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 10:12.22 | andg | Galencia, I don't think self:OnClickOld(button) works |
| 10:12.35 | andg | self refers to clique |
| 10:12.37 | ckknight | I don't see why it wouldn't... |
| 10:12.47 | andg | I think |
| 10:12.58 | ckknight | nope |
| 10:13.08 | andg | it's like a couple of months back I did that crap plugin so I don't remember |
| 10:13.12 | ckknight | not in that context |
| 10:13.39 | andg | anyway ckknight |
| 10:13.44 | andg | about that damn target |
| 10:13.48 | ckknight | yea? |
| 10:13.53 | andg | does it work |
| 10:13.58 | andg | or not?:< |
| 10:14.12 | ckknight | haven't checked today |
| 10:14.19 | andg | what rev you use? |
| 10:15.21 | ckknight | 15053 |
| 10:18.04 | omega__ | doktoreas: ok. what sort of problem? |
| 10:19.04 | doktoreas | file-spec is still at 3.19 |
| 10:19.58 | omega__ | doktoreas: nopaste the error you get? |
| 10:22.37 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15160 10oRA2/Optional/Resurrection.lua: |
| 10:22.37 | CIA-17 | oRA2: more defensive coding for the resurrection monitor |
| 10:22.37 | CIA-17 | removing people midres will now make sure they get removed from the monitor as well |
| 10:22.48 | sylvanaar | haha i just read Kalamandi's gripe - that error sound is rather shocking |
| 10:23.30 | sylvanaar | on another note, what editors do you guys use? I dont really have one I like for LUA |
| 10:23.45 | Kalamadi | Yeah, the shock value is up there around "starting a porn vid without your headphones plugged in" |
| 10:23.53 | Kalamadi | I use SciTE |
| 10:23.58 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r15161 10FuBar_RestFu/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:23.58 | CIA-17 | FuBar_RestFu: |
| 10:23.58 | CIA-17 | - Moved externals into Libs/ dubdirectory. |
| 10:23.58 | CIA-17 | - Removed pointless Babble-Spell external (how did this get here?) |
| 10:23.58 | CIA-17 | - Updated TOC for new Libs paths. |
| 10:24.09 | sylvanaar | haha yeah |
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| 10:24.46 | phyber | ckknight: I got RestFu moved over to my account on WoWI too. since I forgot to earlier. :) |
| 10:25.46 | Galencia | Kalamadi: you seem to have an unhealthy facsination with porn.. :) |
| 10:26.53 | Kalamadi | Galencia: How is exercise unhealthy? |
| 10:26.59 | haste | weee |
| 10:27.00 | haste | home early :D |
| 10:28.03 | Galencia | Kalamadi: :) |
| 10:31.09 | Kalamadi | Argh, Chronometer is such a pain on my pally >_< |
| 10:31.49 | Kalamadi | It comes up on every single-target blessing and seal |
| 10:32.08 | haste | so you get like 10-20 bars :D ? |
| 10:32.20 | Galencia | it also gets a bit confused with right click self cast :) |
| 10:32.27 | Kalamadi | haste: Well, not quite. It doesn't come up for Greater blessings |
| 10:32.38 | Galencia | if you target someone and self cast say.. power word shield, it'll put up a timer for your target |
| 10:32.45 | Kalamadi | But it's a pain in the ass when I have 5-6 bars up for BGs and I just want to watch my 30 second buffs |
| 10:33.04 | haste | ;D |
| 10:33.11 | haste | comment out the lines? |
| 10:33.20 | Galencia | or spam right click on the bars :) |
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| 10:35.17 | haste | Sounds like more work |
| 10:36.20 | Kalamadi | Why comment out when you can delete? =D |
| 10:36.26 | [Ammo] | BALEETED |
| 10:36.54 | haste | I usually comment out code, you never know |
| 10:37.07 | [Ammo] | haste, you can start WoW with latest oRA2 |
| 10:37.10 | [Ammo] | I know you can |
| 10:37.19 | haste | oro? |
| 10:37.27 | haste | ah |
| 10:37.31 | haste | I'll give it a whirl |
| 10:37.39 | sergio | is that like dry humping |
| 10:37.52 | [Ammo] | yeah something like that |
| 10:37.55 | [Ammo] | the effect is worse though |
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| 10:38.26 | Kalamadi | Ahh, finally. My UI is sound. |
| 10:38.35 | Jaxon | Lucky you. |
| 10:38.59 | Jaxon | I'm still trying to muddle through agUF to force the party/raid frames show without being in a party/raid so I can configure placement. |
| 10:39.31 | Kalamadi | Ick. |
| 10:39.50 | Jaxon | And its 4:40 in the morning, I work in four hours, I can't sleep and I'm not a Lua person. |
| 10:40.06 | [Ammo] | solution: join a 40 man raid |
| 10:40.14 | [Ammo] | drag the frames |
| 10:40.14 | [Ammo] | done |
| 10:40.22 | [Ammo] | go into a random AV |
| 10:40.37 | Galencia | haste: thats why version control exists. :p |
| 10:40.41 | Galencia | you naughty commenter you |
| 10:40.54 | haste | Galencia: I don't commit half the code I write, so yeah :p |
| 10:40.59 | haste | I have a local SVN server tho' |
| 10:41.05 | doktoreas | omega__, i am going on.. just 1 modules need left :D |
| 10:41.15 | Galencia | svn rule #1 : commit often |
| 10:41.45 | haste | Galencia: Nah, people try everything I commit, so cba :p |
| 10:41.50 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 10:41.55 | Galencia | hehe |
| 10:42.03 | andg | Jaxon, don't get too hyped up over such a feature, in BC it probably won't be possible |
| 10:42.03 | Galencia | i am one of those people :( |
| 10:42.06 | [Ammo] | there's a solution Haste |
| 10:42.11 | haste | I can commit an empty add on, and people will actually test it :p |
| 10:42.12 | [Ammo] | it's found in a song |
| 10:42.15 | [Ammo] | 'fucking hostile' |
| 10:42.22 | haste | and complain it doesn't work :p |
| 10:42.47 | haste | yeh, I've gone emo on oCB now |
| 10:42.50 | Galencia | yeah, i would be that person |
| 10:43.00 | haste | I revert commits I haven't authorized |
| 10:43.12 | haste | but I have to notice them also, which is a hassle |
| 10:43.22 | Jaxon | andg: I wasn't really expecting it to be implemented into the addon, I just figured I might be able to call the right functions to get some blank unitframes to show up |
| 10:43.25 | [Ammo] | hate: hehe |
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| 10:45.39 | haste | [Ammo]: Could not find a library instance of Babble-Spell-2.2 |
| 10:45.46 | haste | Think you messed up some external :3 |
| 10:45.57 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 10:46.00 | sylvanaar | developing in a branch i noticed still generates zips - with the branch name. maybe call the branch something offesnsive to keep people away |
| 10:46.17 | haste | It's a TOC error |
| 10:46.29 | sergio | [NOT-A-VIRUS] |
| 10:46.32 | [Ammo] | fixed I think |
| 10:46.33 | haste | It's Libs\BabbleSpell-2.2 not Libs\Babble-Spell-2.2 |
| 10:46.36 | [Ammo] | transmitting etc :p |
| 10:46.42 | Kalamadi | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.49 | [Ammo] | done |
| 10:47.00 | haste | the Lua file is Babble-Spell-2.2.lua however :) |
| 10:47.02 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15162 10oRA2/oRA2.toc: oRA2: zomg toc toc toc |
| 10:47.05 | [Ammo] | argh |
| 10:47.06 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 10:47.08 | [Ammo] | then I need to add again |
| 10:47.31 | [Ammo] | should be fixed as soon as CIA says toc |
| 10:47.46 | sergio | tic toc |
| 10:47.51 | sergio | why am i still awake god |
| 10:48.04 | haste | sergio: 'cause it's 12:44 GMT+1 |
| 10:48.05 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15163 10oRA2/oRA2.toc: oRA2: toc again |
| 10:48.17 | sergio | i'm -5 |
| 10:48.40 | sergio | i stayed up playing dawn of war |
| 10:48.44 | sergio | hohoho |
| 10:49.00 | sergio | pretty neat game btw |
| 10:49.39 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15164 10sRaidFrames/localization.koKR.lua: sRaidFrames - fixed miss typo |
| 10:50.01 | Galencia | see a lot of these problems would go away if there was a winaceupdater for "release" versions |
| 10:50.08 | Galencia | normal people shouldnt be let anywhere near svn |
| 10:50.15 | Kalamadi | >_> |
| 10:50.29 | sergio | it's called wowinterface.com or curse-gaming eh |
| 10:50.34 | CIA-17 | 03xinsonic * r15165 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua: BigWigs: fix trigger message of zhTW, thanks to aaronmvp |
| 10:50.38 | Galencia | sergio: thats inpractical. |
| 10:50.38 | sergio | up to the author imo |
| 10:51.15 | sergio | then tags should be used and zipped i dunno |
| 10:51.24 | Galencia | that could work. |
| 10:51.35 | [Ammo] | I should go smack xinsonic |
| 10:51.56 | haste | hehe |
| 10:51.58 | [Ammo] | somehow he figured it a good idea to add *** around all the zhTW messages |
| 10:52.13 | [Ammo] | so announcing to raid will produce double *** |
| 10:52.15 | [Ammo] | brilliant |
| 10:52.19 | sergio | ***************** hug ****************** |
| 10:52.20 | Galencia | smart |
| 10:52.20 | haste | haha |
| 10:52.27 | [Ammo] | I think I'll go nuke all of it |
| 10:52.28 | krka | S-M-R-T Smart! |
| 10:52.36 | haste | I'm only going to allow people to submit patches |
| 10:52.44 | haste | unless they talk to me before they commit |
| 10:52.50 | [Ammo] | I never talk to you haste :p |
| 10:52.56 | haste | luckily people aren't as touchy regarding my add ons :p |
| 10:52.57 | [Ammo] | but you know where to find me to kill me |
| 10:53.06 | Galencia | the whole ace thing is a bit too "free-for-all" for my liking, but that can be a good thing too.. |
| 10:53.12 | haste | well, you don't commit ass and fail |
| 10:53.18 | haste | like some people have a tendency to do |
| 10:53.28 | Kalamadi | Galencia: I punched a dev in the face today. |
| 10:53.57 | haste | I got slapped today! |
| 10:54.00 | sergio | dunno why people need svn access for localization |
| 10:54.05 | sergio | it's easy to sumbit patches |
| 10:54.07 | Galencia | haha |
| 10:54.12 | sergio | submit |
| 10:54.26 | haste | walked out of the toilet at school and got a hand planted in my face |
| 10:54.38 | haste | followed by a "OH, shi-!" |
| 10:54.45 | Galencia | no but really, there could be a little more thought for the "end user" :) |
| 10:54.49 | Kalamadi | haste: Apparently, that was HIS TOILET |
| 10:55.00 | haste | Her actually |
| 10:55.10 | Kalamadi | Close enough. |
| 10:55.12 | krka | you slapped back, i presume? |
| 10:55.13 | [Ammo] | the best face slap I have seen was on this computer/console gameshow on TMF (music channel) called Game Kings |
| 10:55.21 | [Ammo] | the 2 presenters were at E3 last year |
| 10:55.32 | [Ammo] | and both standing next to this hot babe promoting an xbox |
| 10:55.34 | [Ammo] | or something |
| 10:55.41 | haste | krka: no, not really |
| 10:55.43 | [Ammo] | then one of them whispers something to the girl |
| 10:55.44 | sergio | was she hot |
| 10:55.47 | [Ammo] | and gets SMACKED |
| 10:55.50 | haste | I was more like: huh?!?!??! after it happened |
| 10:55.58 | [Ammo] | both cameraman and other presenter were rofling |
| 10:56.07 | [Ammo] | but it was never made public what he had said |
| 10:56.59 | sergio | so |
| 10:57.03 | sergio | go on |
| 10:57.09 | sergio | was she hot |
| 10:57.12 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:57.17 | sergio | why did you get slapped |
| 10:57.17 | [Ammo] | and she slapped him real hard |
| 10:57.18 | [Ammo] | left a good mark |
| 10:57.25 | sergio | i don't understand |
| 10:57.32 | sergio | you can't just say that and stop |
| 10:57.37 | [Ammo] | I can |
| 10:57.41 | [Ammo] | kthxbye |
| 10:57.43 | Jaxon | sergio: he seemed to have entered the wrong washroom? |
| 10:57.53 | Kalamadi | sergio: Behold disappointment, the most common of the human emotions. |
| 10:58.08 | sergio | worst stories ever |
| 10:58.10 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 10:58.50 | Jaxon | I can't sleep, for the last 5 hours, I can't sleep. I've upgraded my machine from dapper to edgy and now I'm completely redoing my WoW interface. |
| 10:59.06 | krka | is edgy any good? |
| 10:59.11 | sergio | i've done that 3 times this month |
| 10:59.12 | krka | does it use upstart? |
| 10:59.20 | Jaxon | upstart? |
| 10:59.23 | [Ammo] | I wouldn't like an edgy computer |
| 10:59.30 | [Ammo] | you tell it to do something and it gets all edgy on you |
| 10:59.36 | haste | [Ammo]: Interface\AddOns\oRA2\Optional\Resurrection.lua:181: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot unregister event "RosterLib_RosterChanged". "resurrectionoptional" is not registered with it. |
| 10:59.37 | Kalamadi | [Ammo]: I would! Mine has CORNERS. |
| 10:59.45 | [Ammo] | sigh |
| 10:59.46 | Jaxon | krka: the upgrade fininshed 3 hours ago. |
| 10:59.48 | haste | empty raid from yesterday |
| 10:59.53 | [Ammo] | fucking AceEvent is a whingy bitch |
| 10:59.55 | haste | when I left :3 |
| 10:59.57 | haste | hehe |
| 10:59.59 | haste | defensive coding! |
| 11:00.03 | [Ammo] | no |
| 11:00.06 | krka | i think i'll wait a bit for edgy :) |
| 11:00.06 | [Ammo] | it should fail silently |
| 11:00.09 | [Ammo] | instead of whinging at me |
| 11:00.13 | andg | and it didn't work as it should with 15053 ckk? because I don't have any trouble |
| 11:00.16 | haste | I know, but you can get around it with defensive coding :p |
| 11:00.33 | Kalamadi | CODE WARS 2006 |
| 11:00.46 | [Ammo] | I mean if self:IsEventRegistered("RosterLib_RosterChanged") then self:UnregisterEvent("RosterLib_RosterChanged") end |
| 11:00.50 | [Ammo] | bullshit |
| 11:00.57 | sergio | i might install vista today |
| 11:01.01 | Kalamadi | I actually had to stop and remember which year it was...so sad ;_; |
| 11:01.01 | sergio | i'm that bored |
| 11:01.26 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15166 10oRA2/Optional/Resurrection.lua: oRA2: pleasing whingy aceevent crap |
| 11:01.28 | [Ammo] | I'm ok with it warning if I have debugging on |
| 11:02.04 | haste | I miss the loading bar on ReloadUI() :( |
| 11:02.08 | andg | sergio, if you're bored try linux |
| 11:02.28 | sergio | been there done that when i was a teenager |
| 11:02.40 | Jaxon | How long ago were you a teenager? |
| 11:02.44 | Jaxon | And what distro did you try? |
| 11:02.49 | sergio | let's see |
| 11:02.55 | sergio | slackware |
| 11:02.58 | Kalamadi | [Don't try Ubuntu, it's the devil] |
| 11:03.03 | sergio | kernel was 2.0.34? or 33? |
| 11:03.10 | sergio | don't remember |
| 11:03.13 | Jaxon | Yeah...things have changed a bit. |
| 11:03.17 | sergio | i was like 13 |
| 11:03.18 | Jaxon | "a bit" |
| 11:03.20 | sergio | i'm 22 now |
| 11:03.29 | sergio | i stopped using linux and bsd like 4 years ago |
| 11:03.31 | haste | [Ammo]: Interface\AddOns\oRA2\Optional\Resurrection.lua:132: attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value) |
| 11:03.34 | haste | [Ammo]: when joining a raid :) |
| 11:03.35 | Greywind | I like slackware, i use it on my home server :) |
| 11:03.37 | sergio | since i stopped caring |
| 11:03.38 | Galencia | heh, thats around the same time i started playing with linux |
| 11:03.39 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 11:03.40 | haste | I run Gentoo |
| 11:03.43 | Galencia | although i think it was 2.0.22 |
| 11:03.47 | Kalamadi | Second on Gentoo |
| 11:03.47 | krka | ubuntu ftw |
| 11:03.49 | haste | on my workstation and my server |
| 11:04.05 | Kalamadi | krka: I used Ubuntu until I got rampant incompatabilities with libraries |
| 11:04.10 | Jaxon | I used to run Arch, but it didn't have a big enough user-base for me so now I'm on ubuntu. |
| 11:04.29 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15167 10oRA2/Optional/Resurrection.lua: oRA2: try this haste? |
| 11:04.36 | krka | i'm not getting any incompatabilities with dapper |
| 11:04.43 | krka | i think i'll stick with dapper for a good while |
| 11:04.53 | Kalamadi | Yeah, well. Emerge. |
| 11:05.12 | Greywind | my brother swears on Gentoo, but im thinking of trying ubuntu |
| 11:05.26 | Jaxon | I don't have the patience for gentoo |
| 11:05.29 | [Ammo] | debian forever :) |
| 11:05.29 | haste | [Ammo]: no errors upon joining / leaving :) |
| 11:05.38 | [Ammo] | without X etc ofcourse |
| 11:05.41 | [Ammo] | pure server config |
| 11:05.45 | Kalamadi | Jaxon: What patience? I got this system running on precompiled binaries in ~30 minutes |
| 11:05.46 | Greywind | i dont think i do either |
| 11:06.01 | Greywind | yeah i dont have X on my slackware |
| 11:06.01 | Jaxon | Kalamadi: then whats the difference between your gentoo install and any other precompiled distro? |
| 11:06.15 | Kalamadi | Emerge :P |
| 11:06.16 | sergio | i used debian for the longest |
| 11:06.17 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster` (i=Arrow@cpe-24-209-111-105.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 11:06.22 | [Ammo] | because linux isn't ready for the desktop, or at least completl incompatible with me |
| 11:06.27 | Jaxon | The package manager? |
| 11:06.28 | krka | dpkg > emerge |
| 11:06.28 | sergio | after slackware stayed libc5 |
| 11:06.29 | [Ammo] | then again, I maximize every window I have |
| 11:06.31 | Jaxon | Thats it? |
| 11:06.34 | [Ammo] | and alt-tab between them |
| 11:06.34 | Greywind | emerge is nice, i must admit |
| 11:06.38 | Kalamadi | Pretty much. I'm lazy. |
| 11:06.38 | haste | [Ammo]: so do I |
| 11:06.56 | [Ammo] | if only I could use alt-f1 -> f12 |
| 11:07.03 | [Ammo] | then it would be perfect |
| 11:07.16 | andg | Greywind, I've used Gentoo for around 2 years, and I'm using ubuntu now. Both are great distros, I just got tired of having to do everything myself. It's nice to know that you can, and you learn a lot, but you do get tired after a while. |
| 11:07.18 | sergio | but I honest prefer fbsd ports to any linux package system even emerge |
| 11:07.28 | sergio | ly |
| 11:07.47 | Kalamadi | Jaxon: Second, I compile everything now. Still, I don't touch the kernel. Every time I compile one, it refuses to boot :/ |
| 11:08.22 | Greywind | Kalamadi: oh i love tweaking my kernel! |
| 11:08.24 | Kalamadi | Always with the kernel panics and not being able to mount the root filesystem, even though I put them into the kernel >_< |
| 11:08.28 | omega__ | doktoreas: nice |
| 11:08.31 | Galencia | [Ammo]: chances are you can find something, somewhere to do exactly what you want. :) |
| 11:08.37 | Kalamadi | Greywind: How adept are you at it? |
| 11:08.46 | Galencia | what that something or where that somewhere is, i couldnt tell you |
| 11:09.05 | andg | Kalamadi, I've probably compiled my own over 50 times while using gnetoo |
| 11:09.18 | Jaxon | I'm in the same boat of andg. Compiled my own kernels for every distro I've used, but its a lot of work and I'm at the point that I just want to be able to do things quickly. |
| 11:09.21 | Kalamadi | Woot! Two people who can help me |
| 11:09.30 | Galencia | debian++ |
| 11:09.31 | Greywind | yeah, I have only fudged my kernel twice |
| 11:09.32 | doktoreas | omega__, i just dicovered a bug in the installer in gentoo and the mainteiner is solving it |
| 11:09.42 | Kalamadi | I'm running Gentoo on a Thinkpad T42 |
| 11:10.18 | Kalamadi | As far as which packages to emerge and which kernel features to include, I'm fairly clueless. |
| 11:10.22 | [Ammo] | Galencia: well I need to run Internet Explorer, and Firefox |
| 11:10.23 | Greywind | once was i forgot to compile reiserfs into my kernel when my system was formated with it >.< |
| 11:10.27 | [Ammo] | so using linux is no option |
| 11:10.39 | Kalamadi | Firefox runs under linux... |
| 11:10.42 | [Ammo] | I know |
| 11:10.43 | Jaxon | [Ammo]: why the dependancy on IE? |
| 11:10.44 | [Ammo] | but I need IE as well |
| 11:10.48 | [Ammo] | workrelated |
| 11:10.51 | Greywind | hmm I used to use IE under wine |
| 11:10.51 | Kalamadi | Ick. |
| 11:10.52 | [Ammo] | web development etc |
| 11:10.57 | [Ammo] | besides |
| 11:10.59 | Greywind | but its been awhile |
| 11:11.00 | [Ammo] | FF is too slow for me |
| 11:11.06 | [Ammo] | it renders like fat shit through a funnel |
| 11:11.08 | haste | Opera runs under Linux |
| 11:11.23 | Kalamadi | FF 2.0 seems to be blindingly fast for me :x |
| 11:11.24 | andg | Jaxon, yep, that's why I use ubuntu now... |
| 11:11.27 | Greywind | yeah I dont use FF under linux, i use opera |
| 11:11.28 | Galencia | sounds like you're using an old version of FF |
| 11:11.29 | haste | links2 -g ! |
| 11:11.31 | [Ammo] | Kalamadi it's slow |
| 11:11.33 | [Ammo] | no |
| 11:11.36 | Galencia | FF is far far far quicker than Ie |
| 11:11.38 | Galencia | at least for me |
| 11:11.45 | [Ammo] | DHTML is slow in FF |
| 11:11.50 | [Ammo] | normal renderning is the same |
| 11:11.53 | Kalamadi | I'm running FF with 800 tabs up on my windows box |
| 11:11.54 | [Ammo] | but when you're doing drag drop stuff |
| 11:12.08 | Greywind | ah webapps |
| 11:12.11 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 11:12.14 | andg | I only use FF in windows.... on mac os x or Linux I'd rather use native toolkit browsers |
| 11:12.19 | krka | 800 tabs? why? |
| 11:12.25 | andg | like camino or safari, or on linux epiphany |
| 11:12.30 | [Ammo] | I use FF for browsing forums etc etc |
| 11:12.31 | Kalamadi | krka: Don't ask questions. |
| 11:12.35 | [Ammo] | but steer clear of anything dynamic with it |
| 11:12.44 | [Ammo] | I just need to use it for testing |
| 11:12.47 | [Ammo] | to make sure it works |
| 11:12.48 | krka | i can't imagine ever needing 800 tabs open at once |
| 11:12.49 | Greywind | I miss safari :(...hell I miss my mac |
| 11:12.57 | Kalamadi | krka: It's not about needing |
| 11:12.59 | [Ammo] | we have a minimac for safari testing |
| 11:13.05 | Kalamadi | It's about opening more tabs than you have the intent to close |
| 11:13.06 | [Ammo] | it's headless, with VNC server |
| 11:13.16 | Greywind | ah nice |
| 11:13.17 | [Ammo] | it's actually being used a fancy monitor stand :p |
| 11:13.23 | Greywind | lol |
| 11:13.39 | [Ammo] | Opera we have given up on |
| 11:13.54 | *** join/#wowace abbat_w (i=abbat@moo.efnet.org) |
| 11:14.02 | [Ammo] | we tried, but every new build of opera breaks new stuff |
| 11:14.14 | Greywind | eek its 7 am and i gotta work in 5 hours....get some sleep or play more WoW and get my priest to 40...descisions, decisions |
| 11:14.16 | abbat_w | Mikma, do you know what libc is a crutch for those that didnt study C? :) |
| 11:14.49 | [Ammo] | so the disclaimer now says: 'works in IE/FF/Moz/Safari. might work in Opera' |
| 11:14.58 | [Ammo] | C ain't hard |
| 11:15.13 | omega__ | doktoreas: ok :) |
| 11:15.15 | abbat_w | Ammo, Mikma write this on Discord Forums ;) |
| 11:15.17 | [Ammo] | it's just a bit more low level than expected |
| 11:15.19 | [Ammo] | I know |
| 11:15.23 | abbat_w | I just copy/paste this ;) |
| 11:15.36 | [Ammo] | there was a discussion on here about that thread |
| 11:15.41 | [Ammo] | around 3 hours ago |
| 11:15.45 | Galencia | was actually my comment! |
| 11:15.47 | Kalamadi | Really? That long ago? |
| 11:15.50 | Greywind | yup |
| 11:15.54 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 11:16.07 | abbat_w | Btw |
| 11:16.07 | Galencia | about the same amount of time as ive been in work |
| 11:16.17 | Galencia | bring on lunchtime |
| 11:16.24 | [Ammo] | my lunch is being fetched atm |
| 11:16.25 | abbat_w | WAU need to remove mod dir completly before update ;) |
| 11:16.33 | sylvanaar | it can |
| 11:16.39 | yacoob | [Ammo], s/fetched/downloaded/ :) |
| 11:17.14 | abbat_w | I have some problems tonight with old AceHook dir in some mods |
| 11:17.20 | [Ammo] | heh |
| 11:17.48 | Greywind | god I love knowing how to cook, I just grilled some salmon and made some rice to go with it. low fat and tasty 4tw! |
| 11:18.03 | Galencia | intereseting story |
| 11:18.07 | Galencia | interesting, too |
| 11:18.42 | Greywind | now I wonder if I have any lemons, that would be perfect |
| 11:18.51 | Kalamadi | I made ramen noodles for dinner :< |
| 11:18.52 | abbat_w | But now i have working ErrorMonster btw ;) |
| 11:18.57 | sylvanaar | abbat_w: edit/preferences/delete before extracting |
| 11:19.05 | Kalamadi | Not because I can't cook, mind you, but because we're out of everything else. |
| 11:19.08 | abbat_w | But Antagonist was broken ;( |
| 11:19.27 | Jaxon | Hmm, anyone know of an addon that modifies the standard colorpicker to allow for direct RGBA inputs? |
| 11:19.37 | abbat_w | sylvanaar, thank you. I really miss this option |
| 11:19.49 | [Ammo] | Jaxon: there was a thread about that, and there's a colorpicker on the svn |
| 11:20.10 | [Ammo] | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/EnhancedColourPicker/ |
| 11:20.10 | Galencia | why is it that bigwigs seems to change at least twice per day |
| 11:20.20 | [Ammo] | because BigWigs is big |
| 11:20.27 | [Ammo] | and lots of localization needs to be done |
| 11:20.30 | [Ammo] | and is being done |
| 11:20.30 | sylvanaar | abbat_w: you miss it? or you missed it? |
| 11:20.33 | Jaxon | Ugh, I must've scrolled right by it, thanks Ammo. |
| 11:20.37 | abbat_w | missed ;) |
| 11:20.50 | Galencia | fair enough |
| 11:20.58 | abbat_w | sylvanaar, english is not my native language and i can do some errors. sorry for this |
| 11:21.01 | [Ammo] | and changing one file will generate a new zip |
| 11:21.09 | Elkano | Ammo: works in every browser supporting XHTML1.1 and CSS2.0 (so none atm) ;) |
| 11:21.21 | haste | ah, I'm starting to like regexps |
| 11:21.25 | sylvanaar | abbat_w: thats why i asked what you meant =) |
| 11:21.28 | haste | fixing a whole topic on the guild forum |
| 11:21.35 | haste | with one little regexp :D |
| 11:21.46 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 11:22.06 | [Ammo] | s/Otravi is a dick/Otravi is my hero/ |
| 11:22.07 | [Ammo] | ? |
| 11:22.52 | abbat_w | =))) |
| 11:23.30 | haste | nah |
| 11:23.33 | Galencia | heh |
| 11:23.49 | haste | more like: \* \*\(.*\):\* |
| 11:24.14 | Galencia | thats a lot of escape characters |
| 11:24.34 | Galencia | i wonder if they are entirely necessary |
| 11:24.38 | haste | It works, I'm happy |
| 11:24.38 | Jaxon | Yes |
| 11:24.43 | Jaxon | They are necessary |
| 11:24.53 | Galencia | i bet you could rewrite it to not use escapes, though. |
| 11:25.02 | sylvanaar | now make it unicode |
| 11:25.10 | Galencia | :) |
| 11:25.56 | andg | abbat_w, what thread |
| 11:26.02 | andg | I want in on the drama |
| 11:26.05 | andg | bored at work |
| 11:26.14 | phyber | can anyone quickly test Fizzle from SVN for me? it's really fucking something up but I don't know why. |
| 11:26.26 | abbat_w | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?msgnum=932&page=7&forum=general |
| 11:26.27 | phyber | stops all of my Ace2 stuff from loading. |
| 11:26.28 | abbat_w | this one |
| 11:27.18 | Kalamadi | Time to test out some xorg.conf changes :x |
| 11:27.44 | phyber | BugSack is fucked up with the latest AceConsole. |
| 11:28.04 | phyber | [2006/10/25 12:27:30-632]: FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2170: AceConsole-2.0: Option handler "ShowCurrent" not found. |
| 11:28.08 | *** join/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 11:28.11 | phyber | when trying to use /commands |
| 11:28.46 | [Ammo] | can't help you with that, never used bugsack |
| 11:28.57 | [Ammo] | I like to fix errors one at the time |
| 11:29.01 | [Ammo] | so the big bad popup is perfect |
| 11:29.12 | abbat_w | =) |
| 11:29.38 | abbat_w | Tonigth before raiding i use WAU for update my mods and have about 10 errors ;) |
| 11:29.58 | abbat_w | Very very big popup with scroll down ;) |
| 11:30.36 | vhaarr | There are no errors with the normal mods now for people who use SVN. |
| 11:30.46 | *** join/#wowace notMusic (i=broadcas@r190-0-152-245.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 11:30.49 | andg | wow, there's drama |
| 11:31.10 | Galencia | vhaarr: i think the errors come from the way the updater works.. you tend to end up with some very stale mod directories |
| 11:31.17 | andg | mikma is such a joker |
| 11:31.19 | vhaarr | Exactly. |
| 11:31.23 | [Ammo] | not the way the updater works |
| 11:31.31 | [Ammo] | the way the zip generation works |
| 11:31.33 | Galencia | perhaps the "delete before update" option should be default |
| 11:31.52 | abbat_w | vhaarr, this is because i don't check option to remove mod complete. And some mods have AceHook-2.0 and AceHook-2.1 for example |
| 11:31.59 | vhaarr | And perhaps people should bitch about their mods not working in the WAU thread and not here. |
| 11:32.00 | abbat_w | This is produce to much errors |
| 11:32.10 | Galencia | perhaps they should |
| 11:32.12 | phyber | ["message"] = "[2006/10/25 12:19:29-627]: AceHook-2.1\\AceHook-2.1.lua:537: attempt to index a nil value\nAceHook-2.1\\AceHook-2.1.lua:537: in function `OnInstanceInit'\nAceOO\\AceOO-2.0.lua:644: in function `init'\nAceAddon\\AceAddon-2.0.lua:587: in function `init'\nAceOO\\AceOO-2.0.lua:468: in function <...erface\\AddOns\\ag_UnitFrames\\libs\\AceOO\\AceOO-2.0.lua:440>\n<unknown>:\nFizzle\\Core.lua:2: in main chunk\n\n ---", |
| 11:32.31 | sylvanaar | ouch |
| 11:32.32 | abbat_w | Galencia, agree with you |
| 11:33.23 | Jaxon | Looking at that Discord thread, I don't use any of the mods, but that UI is rather ugly |
| 11:33.29 | oxman | :p |
| 11:33.35 | abbat_w | Jaxon ;) |
| 11:33.43 | Galencia | where is the WUA thread? |
| 11:33.48 | Galencia | i shall give my tuppence to it |
| 11:33.51 | abbat_w | discrod is just constructor of the UI |
| 11:33.56 | [Ammo] | the problems all stem from people not using a proper SVN client, and thinking that all addons in the ace repo are release quality |
| 11:34.10 | [Ammo] | s/constructor/distructor/ |
| 11:34.11 | Galencia | [Ammo]: some of the problems stem from getting conflicting information |
| 11:34.20 | [Ammo] | no |
| 11:34.29 | Galencia | yes. from experience.. |
| 11:34.46 | Jaxon | Okay, the discord setup windows, configuration windows are ugly, regardless of the end UI result. |
| 11:34.55 | *** join/#wowace Angeris (n=anger@ppp87-190.adsl.forthnet.gr) |
| 11:34.56 | [Ammo] | Ace Addons in the SVN/via WAU are NOT without bugs, don't expect them to be |
| 11:34.58 | abbat_w | Jaxon ;) take easy ;) |
| 11:35.07 | Galencia | [Ammo]: thats not the issue though |
| 11:35.11 | Jaxon | The color combo, the background texture, it just hurts my eyes :\ |
| 11:35.21 | Galencia | [Ammo]: a lot of "bugs" arent actually bugs in the addons, just in the way you updated them |
| 11:35.22 | [Ammo] | it is the issue |
| 11:35.30 | Galencia | and can easily be avoided |
| 11:35.32 | abbat_w | Jaxon, first time i run /dab i was confused about configuration windows. But now i think what it's ok for me |
| 11:35.35 | sylvanaar | it matches thw wow basic color scheme |
| 11:35.35 | Galencia | by not doing the wrong thing |
| 11:35.51 | Galencia | but sometimes you arent always told what is and isnt the wrong thing :) |
| 11:36.57 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.58 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:37.06 | Galencia | hmm the wiki says it defaults to true, i wonder if they changed it |
| 11:37.14 | [Ammo] | WAU was created because people couldn't get their head around using a SVN client |
| 11:37.19 | abbat_w | And sometimes favorites addon's didn't update to last version of libs. What about me, i don't know what i need to fix Antagonist. So, i roll to necb again and wait while author fix some problems |
| 11:37.26 | [Ammo] | using a SVN client you will not have the problems people experience |
| 11:37.31 | Galencia | [Ammo]: i was on a number of occasions, specifically told NOT to use svn |
| 11:37.32 | [Ammo] | you might still get bugs thrown at you |
| 11:37.52 | vhaarr | indeed you would have had 0 of the problems this channel has been fucking *flooded* with the last 7 days. |
| 11:37.56 | vhaarr | not stop flooding please |
| 11:37.59 | vhaarr | *now |
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| 11:38.04 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 11:38.11 | Kalamadi | Wow. That was a bad choice. |
| 11:38.30 | Galencia | in fact the svn rules themselves specifically state not to use svn as a means to updating addons |
| 11:38.37 | Galencia | so you're kinda conflicting yourselves a lot |
| 11:38.43 | vhaarr | That is NOT a fact. |
| 11:38.46 | [Ammo] | shrug, I didn't make up the rules :) |
| 11:39.25 | [Ammo] | one thing does not change though: if it's not on WoWi/Curse it probably contains bugs |
| 11:39.34 | Galencia | actually it says its ok if you dont do it often |
| 11:39.55 | Galencia | [Ammo]: that's perfectly fine.. thats part of the whole process |
| 11:39.56 | [Ammo] | I do a full update of my addons once a week or so |
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| 11:40.03 | Mi|es | stop scaring away my pre-alpha testers. gogo update from svn or wowace/files :p |
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| 11:40.07 | Galencia | i stand corrected |
| 11:40.18 | [Ammo] | and I rarely run into problems |
| 11:40.33 | [Ammo] | if I do, I check the file that's causing it |
| 11:40.39 | [Ammo] | go to the log of that file |
| 11:40.42 | Galencia | there needs to be a "how to update your addons" page on the wiki |
| 11:40.45 | [Ammo] | and revert to previous revision |
| 11:40.48 | Galencia | if i write one will someone approve it to get linked somewhere? |
| 11:41.03 | phyber | vhaarr: you there? |
| 11:41.08 | vhaarr | phyber: yes |
| 11:41.18 | Galencia | i'll make sure it has big red warnings about not expecting things to be always working, too :p |
| 11:41.36 | phyber | vhaarr: could you test Fizzle from the SVN (update the externals too) and tell me if you have issues with it? |
| 11:41.49 | phyber | today, it's preventing all of my ACe2 addons from showing up and I have no idea why. |
| 11:41.56 | vhaarr | phyber: I run everything without externals :( |
| 11:42.00 | vhaarr | hm |
| 11:42.07 | vhaarr | I'll test it shortly just let me get my tea |
| 11:42.12 | phyber | thanks. |
| 11:42.49 | [Ammo] | what is fizzle again? |
| 11:42.51 | Galencia | i want to write a little page explaining how to run stuff with and without externals and how to update both.. since it confused the hell outta me and made me get in a mess where it looked like nothing worked but it was actually my fault |
| 11:43.13 | Kalamadi | [Ammo]: Addon which adds durability to icons on character frame |
| 11:43.17 | phyber | [Ammo]: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5018 |
| 11:43.22 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 11:43.27 | phyber | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3378.jpg |
| 11:43.31 | phyber | or, screenshot is better. |
| 11:43.47 | Kalamadi | andg: Could you help me get ACPI working on my laptop in a while? |
| 11:43.49 | Galencia | !!!Libs is for running without externals, and using SVN, right? |
| 11:43.50 | [Ammo] | naah, I remember now from kalamadi's description |
| 11:44.14 | Galencia | and !!!StandaloneLibraries is for running without externals and using WUA? |
| 11:44.23 | [Ammo] | no idea |
| 11:44.25 | Galencia | and !!!Libraries is old and rednudant? |
| 11:44.26 | [Ammo] | disembedding is evil |
| 11:44.31 | sylvanaar | perhaps you can make externals for libraries that are superceded which have 0 length files in them |
| 11:44.35 | andg | Kalamadi, never used a laptop with linux :P |
| 11:44.55 | Galencia | [Ammo]: then why do people do it? o_o |
| 11:45.00 | Galencia | and whats the "official" standpoint? |
| 11:45.07 | [Ammo] | because they think they're hip and hot |
| 11:45.15 | [Ammo] | and it shaves a second of their loading time |
| 11:45.20 | Kalamadi | andg: Well, I guess I could try and wing the ACPI stuff if I can get a good ebb and flow about updating kernels |
| 11:45.37 | andg | check out the forums for the different distros |
| 11:45.38 | [Ammo] | I'd rather wait that second than have to deal with issue after issue because I disembedde |
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| 11:46.16 | Galencia | hmm, the svn rules to say to checkout without externals, too |
| 11:46.20 | Galencia | you can see why im confused. |
| 11:46.25 | Kalamadi | andg: That's not the problem. Even if I compile a kernel with nearly everything enabled, I still get panics |
| 11:46.31 | sylvanaar | those are for users |
| 11:46.48 | Galencia | yes i want to write a guide *for* users, being one myself |
| 11:46.50 | sylvanaar | it confused me at first too |
| 11:47.42 | andg | Kalamadi, might be the way you set up the kernel with the bootloader and stuff |
| 11:48.00 | andg | I'd suggest you find a howto on your distro flavour forum and follow it step by step |
| 11:48.19 | Kalamadi | I have...for two different distros. It seems to happen the same way every time :/ |
| 11:48.36 | Kalamadi | But I'll look into the forums now |
| 11:49.33 | Kalamadi | 'course, Gentoo has this wonderful FAQ... *browses* |
| 11:49.48 | vhaarr | phyber: hm, have you tried Fizzle with ClosetGnome? |
| 11:49.52 | andg | also |
| 11:50.00 | andg | check what people are writing about your computer and linux |
| 11:50.21 | Kalamadi | andg: I tried updating xorg.conf according to that and it blew up :/ |
| 11:51.30 | phyber | vhaarr: yeah, I run them both. |
| 11:51.47 | vhaarr | phyber: and it doesn't conflict when adding sets? |
| 11:51.55 | phyber | nope. |
| 11:52.11 | phyber | I create my own borders. don't use any built-in ones. |
| 11:52.14 | vhaarr | excellent |
| 11:52.23 | phyber | the colours kind of overlap and look funny, but that's all. |
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| 11:52.25 | vhaarr | I do that too, I believe |
| 11:52.30 | FtH|eagle | hi |
| 11:52.33 | vhaarr | phyber: I copied the code from you :) |
| 11:52.36 | [Ammo] | it says in your code you stole it from Fizzle vhaar :p |
| 11:52.37 | phyber | :D |
| 11:52.42 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 11:53.05 | Kalamadi | andg: There's a tool under gentoo ["genkernel"] - do you know if it successfully does its job? |
| 11:53.20 | vhaarr | phyber: No errors here. |
| 11:54.10 | phyber | weird. |
| 11:54.49 | andg | Kalamadi, probably... But I think it's still up to you to choose the corrent things to be compiled in |
| 11:55.00 | andg | but I guess it sets up the bootloader and image |
| 11:55.26 | vhaarr | phyber: Feel free to modify CG to hook Fizzle's CharacterFrame hook and make it no-op when adding a set. |
| 11:55.40 | phyber | yeah, I was thinking of doing that just now. |
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| 11:56.23 | phyber | as soon as i can get my ui working again :p |
| 11:56.26 | Kalamadi | andg: Is there anything I should pay exceptional attention to, aside from the "required kernel options" as specified in the guide and the proper filesystem(s)? |
| 12:00.25 | andg | hm can't really remember |
| 12:00.29 | andg | been a while |
| 12:00.44 | phyber | just compile in what you think you need. if it doesn't work, go back and try again. |
| 12:00.50 | andg | The errors I usually did was to leave correct USB out |
| 12:00.55 | andg | yes, what phyber said... |
| 12:01.01 | phyber | look through and include the things for your hardware. |
| 12:01.15 | andg | when you can get your kernel to run without panic you're a long way |
| 12:01.22 | phyber | when you've got a working kernel, then you can go back and look at other things. see if you missed anything out, or you want to add something. |
| 12:01.24 | andg | after that you can just adjust what |
| 12:01.28 | andg | what's missing |
| 12:01.32 | Kalamadi | Alright |
| 12:01.40 | andg | yeah we're both saying the same :P |
| 12:01.59 | Kalamadi | I'll be under media blackout during this process...I run my IRC client on my laptop since it's a pain in the arse in windows |
| 12:02.03 | phyber | for example, if ACPI is causing you problems right now, leave that out until the very end. then you can keep recompiling and see if you can find the specific part of ACPI causing the problem. |
| 12:03.04 | Kalamadi | I just wonder how flexible genkernel is. Does it allow me to replace/reorder/delete kernels at will? |
| 12:04.22 | andg | no idea.. I didn't use it back when I was doing stuff |
| 12:04.30 | andg | check the wiki maybe |
| 12:04.37 | andg | I guess gentoo got a wiki right? |
| 12:04.51 | Kalamadi | Not a wiki. Just a very detailed FAQ. |
| 12:04.51 | krka | yes, but you have to compile your own wiki |
| 12:04.55 | krka | so it's pretty limited :/ |
| 12:05.00 | Kalamadi | BRB |
| 12:05.04 | phyber | genkernel? |
| 12:05.06 | phyber | bah. |
| 12:05.15 | dafire | genkernel is only building script I think |
| 12:05.31 | vhaarr | Anyone using GarbageFu? |
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| 12:06.41 | krka | what does that do? |
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| 12:07.01 | Kalamadi | GAH. Hate windows clients. |
| 12:07.05 | Kalamadi | What does what do? |
| 12:07.08 | vhaarr | I think it autosells items of a certain quality. |
| 12:07.14 | vhaarr | GarbageFu |
| 12:07.24 | Kalamadi | Ah. |
| 12:07.33 | vhaarr | Do you use it? |
| 12:07.39 | Kalamadi | Afraid not. |
| 12:08.00 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15168 10oRA2/Leader/RaidWarn.lua: oRA2: %t replacement for silly /rs |
| 12:08.06 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:08.21 | Kalamadi | G'morning. |
| 12:08.57 | krka | ooh... seems useful |
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| 12:10.50 | omega__ | vhaarr: I use it |
| 12:10.53 | omega__ | it rocks |
| 12:10.56 | omega__ | once you get it set upå |
| 12:11.46 | vhaarr | omega__: So how do I configure it? |
| 12:11.57 | vhaarr | Tick everything in Drop->? |
| 12:12.10 | Kalamadi | No! |
| 12:12.14 | vhaarr | And options->Drop Threshold->Poor |
| 12:12.16 | vhaarr | ? |
| 12:12.30 | Kalamadi | Er. |
| 12:12.39 | Kalamadi | Let me test out this addon >_> |
| 12:12.43 | omega__ | vhaarr: I have common as threshold |
| 12:12.52 | omega__ | and jsut ctrl-click everything I want to keep |
| 12:12.57 | vhaarr | omega__: And everything in Drop-> ticked? |
| 12:13.09 | omega__ | cant remember :p |
| 12:13.30 | vhaarr | well I don't want to tick stuff because it seems like it will delete all my gear |
| 12:13.51 | omega__ | no, it doesnt delete anything unless you click it to throw stuff out |
| 12:14.05 | vhaarr | aha |
| 12:14.29 | omega__ | it just prioritizes what you consider trash |
| 12:14.41 | omega__ | so you can easily throw out the least valuable item first |
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| 12:21.01 | Kalamadi | Attempt #1... |
| 12:21.20 | Kalamadi | The problem with genkernel is that you don't see waves of compiler output |
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| 12:22.45 | phyber | vhaarr: strange. I just did a big update of all my addons including externals and it works now. |
| 12:22.48 | phyber | :) |
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| 12:30.25 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15169 10oRA2/ (Core.lua Leader/MainTank.lua Options.lua): oRA2: Added drycoded tooltip stuff for testing. |
| 12:31.33 | Mikma | <1431> <andg> mikma is such a joker |
| 12:31.44 | andg | oh yes |
| 12:32.35 | Mikma | ofc i am joker |
| 12:32.37 | abbat_w | agree ;) |
| 12:32.38 | Mikma | all of you others are ace |
| 12:33.17 | Mikma | why should i delete my post :P |
| 12:33.32 | Kalamadi | Go modules go~ |
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| 12:36.40 | JoshBorke | w |
| 12:38.57 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15170 10oRA2/Options.lua: oRA2: Maintank module now shows: Maintank testing 1 2 3 in the tooltip. how imba is that? |
| 12:40.08 | abbat_w | real imba btw ;) |
| 12:40.47 | sylvanaar | abbat_w: what does that mean? im an old man |
| 12:41.00 | abbat_w | imba? |
| 12:41.05 | Iceroth | hmh, is it only me or does the oCB bar and spark move at different 'speed' or something? the sparks seems to move nicely, bar takes leaps |
| 12:41.09 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 12:41.12 | abbat_w | imba mean something very very cool |
| 12:41.33 | JoshBorke | i thought imba meant imbalanced? |
| 12:41.33 | abbat_w | yep |
| 12:41.33 | sylvanaar | me too |
| 12:41.56 | abbat_w | but sometimes i see what ppl use 'imba' as sinomym for 'cool' |
| 12:42.23 | sylvanaar | so its kinda like zerg - has its own meaning now - derived from context |
| 12:42.30 | haste | Iceroth: uhm, what revision? |
| 12:42.37 | abbat_w | yep |
| 12:42.38 | haste | Iceroth: 'cause the bar and the spark is handled in the same OnUpdate |
| 12:42.43 | krka | that's just stupid... like noob meaning bad player :/ |
| 12:43.04 | sylvanaar | or bad meaning good |
| 12:43.05 | Iceroth | haste, i just downloaded it from the svn - and yea, i'm watching the code and really can't understand why it would do that |
| 12:43.18 | abbat_w | haste, btw, do you change bg color/border color of casting bar? Or it's my local anomaly? |
| 12:43.28 | haste | Iceroth: there are two versions of oCB on the SVN |
| 12:43.35 | haste | abbat_w: you should be able to change the color in-game |
| 12:43.44 | abbat_w | bg color too? |
| 12:43.46 | Iceroth | trunk/oCB/ |
| 12:43.49 | Iceroth | is what i have |
| 12:43.54 | haste | abbat_w: nah, bg is hardcoded |
| 12:43.58 | haste | it will change soon tho' |
| 12:44.04 | abbat_w | Ah, ok |
| 12:44.07 | haste | Iceroth: yeh, it should move alongside eachother |
| 12:45.00 | abbat_w | Maybe i wrong but some releases ago oCB have silver border and another bg color. Now black border/background ;) |
| 12:46.10 | haste | Yes, I changed it |
| 12:46.26 | haste | and I also said I would add a option for the old style if people complained |
| 12:46.28 | haste | which someone did |
| 12:47.22 | Kalamadi | andg: genkernel is suggesting additional commandline arguments...should I write these down and pass them if it bugs? |
| 12:47.46 | Sun\Nether | anybody thouht about a casting icon instead of a casting bar ? |
| 12:48.07 | haste | casting icon? |
| 12:48.24 | Sun\Nether | instead of having a bar for the spell use the icon of the spell |
| 12:48.29 | abbat_w | ?? |
| 12:48.32 | Sun\Nether | with a timer inside for the casting delay |
| 12:48.38 | Sun\Nether | decreasing one |
| 12:48.42 | abbat_w | ah |
| 12:48.48 | Sun\Nether | see what i mean |
| 12:48.50 | haste | wait until TBC with that imo |
| 12:48.58 | Sun\Nether | why so ? |
| 12:49.08 | haste | It's easy as pie then |
| 12:49.12 | Sun\Nether | oh |
| 12:49.13 | andg | Kalamadi, no idea, never used genkernel :) |
| 12:49.19 | andg | try #gentoo |
| 12:49.34 | Sun\Nether | so tbc coding wise is pretty good |
| 12:49.45 | abbat_w | what about me i' fully satisfact with oCB and don't need anything else |
| 12:49.50 | Kalamadi | Well, my first new kernel booted successfully, albeit with some strange bugs |
| 12:50.04 | Kalamadi | Probably because I used the suspend2 sources instead of gentoo sources :x |
| 12:50.47 | haste | Sun\Nether: what do you mean with that? |
| 12:50.59 | Sun\Nether | tbc, coding wise, is pretty good |
| 12:51.08 | haste | ... |
| 12:51.12 | Sun\Nether | forgot the punctuation |
| 12:51.35 | Sun\Nether | i mean coding addon for tbc seems better that basic wow |
| 12:51.38 | krka | thanks, now it's completely clear! |
| 12:51.38 | haste | It still doesn't make more sence to me, so I'll just leave it there |
| 12:51.52 | haste | some parts yes, some parts no |
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| 12:52.08 | Sun\Nether | at least in the spell detection area |
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| 12:59.49 | Iceroth | haste, http://iceroth.net/wow/ocb.png |
| 13:01.07 | haste | Iceroth: does it become like it over time? |
| 13:01.12 | steino | http://ice |
| 13:01.19 | steino | dogh |
| 13:01.22 | steino | putty >:> |
| 13:01.32 | Iceroth | it keeps jumping, the bar catches the spark and then falls behind again |
| 13:01.37 | Iceroth | for 1s cast it does it like 10 times |
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| 13:03.38 | mjc | gogo itunes crash |
| 13:04.47 | Kalamadi | Attempt #2 underway, let's trim that kernel~ |
| 13:06.36 | haste | Iceroth: can you compress your oCB and upload? |
| 13:06.40 | haste | and pastebin the savedvars |
| 13:06.46 | andg | haste, did you commit BC oCB? |
| 13:06.49 | haste | 'cause I'm not able to re-create it |
| 13:06.57 | haste | andg: nope |
| 13:07.00 | andg | :'( |
| 13:07.03 | haste | I've committed oCD tho' |
| 13:07.10 | andg | good :) |
| 13:07.18 | andg | but will you commit it for me? pretty please? |
| 13:07.27 | andg | do it for children |
| 13:07.36 | haste | I will, just have to get the time to finish some parts of it |
| 13:07.41 | andg | won't anybody please, thnk of the children? |
| 13:07.45 | andg | ok |
| 13:07.57 | andg | yeah sorry. Just bored at work |
| 13:08.01 | haste | but I prio live still |
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| 13:08.40 | Iceroth | haste, http://iceroth.net/ocb/ |
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| 13:10.22 | sylvanaar | is there a good way to determine the size of an addons saved variables? before I go looking throgh the source of warmup |
| 13:10.49 | haste | I don't get it here |
| 13:10.51 | krka | ls -l filename |
| 13:10.55 | haste | even with your settings and same files =\ |
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| 13:11.27 | sylvanaar | from the wow client |
| 13:12.17 | Iceroth | :-/ |
| 13:12.37 | Iceroth | shows only on shorts casts, <3s or so |
| 13:12.39 | haste | it doesn't happen on Hearthstone and mount at least |
| 13:12.52 | haste | I'll log my warlock then |
| 13:13.17 | Iceroth | 1s cast it really shines |
| 13:13.19 | Galencia | hmm |
| 13:13.30 | haste | Iceroth: yeh... kinda hard to get that with most classes :p |
| 13:13.32 | Galencia | sems you can get multiple t4 tokens to get "all" of your sets if you want |
| 13:13.38 | Galencia | s/sems/seems/ |
| 13:13.59 | Iceroth | though i still see it with mount now that i know what to watch |
| 13:14.17 | haste | Iceroth: doesn't happen at all on a 2 sec cast |
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| 13:14.23 | Iceroth | :s |
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| 13:16.09 | Kalamadi | I've been running around this boat for ten minutes, waiting for the murlocs to respawn |
| 13:16.17 | Kalamadi | I have a feeling they're all going to spawn at once and pwn me |
| 13:16.37 | haste | doesn't happen on 1.7 sec casts eiter Iceroth |
| 13:16.45 | haste | Iceroth: might be a fps problem? |
| 13:16.58 | haste | even though both should be moved with the same speed still |
| 13:17.32 | Iceroth | running like 50fps here :s |
| 13:18.27 | Mikma | Iceroth: i'll come and steal your comp, ETA 15mins |
| 13:18.35 | haste | can you try with only oCB enabled? |
| 13:18.44 | haste | it doesn't happen here, no matter how long the bar is |
| 13:18.45 | haste | or short |
| 13:18.52 | haste | and cast time the spell has |
| 13:18.55 | Iceroth | yea i'll do that soon |
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| 13:22.35 | haste | Iceroth: the sooner the better, I'll be tinkering with it until the mystery is solved now =\ |
| 13:22.55 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15173 10oRA2/ (Leader/MainTank.lua Optional/PlayerTarget.lua): oRA2: tooltip now contains non-interactive list of PTs and MTs. Onclick being worked on. |
| 13:23.59 | abbat_w | btw guys, are exist any FuBar addon which allow me to create drop down categorised menu. Sometimes i switch addons profiles from pvp to pve settings (or something else). Now i must remember all addons command (for example /ocb castingbar border none). It's be nice if I just select menu item from drop down menu and execute some command (/ocb castingbar border none for example) |
| 13:24.08 | Iceroth | kk, will do now, gf was accusing me of screwing her comp but she did it herself :p |
| 13:24.36 | Jaxon | abbat_w: check out Deuce Commander. |
| 13:24.45 | haste | FuBar_ModMenu or something also |
| 13:24.57 | abbat_w | Jaxon, haste, thanks guys |
| 13:25.37 | Iceroth | haste, only oCB loaded, still getting the jumpy bar |
| 13:25.45 | haste | argh |
| 13:25.53 | haste | fucking piece of shit =\ |
| 13:26.09 | Galencia | shitting piece of fuck |
| 13:26.10 | haste | I'll grab some food then continue to play with that |
| 13:26.33 | Iceroth | 1.5s healing wave cast on my modder shammy |
| 13:26.35 | doktoreas | omega__, they are still correcting the bug... |
| 13:26.47 | doktoreas | meantime, is there something like ktmeter in Ace? |
| 13:27.15 | Galencia | one day someone(possible me) will write a ora-ish ktm |
| 13:27.25 | Galencia | ie, enough to communicate with ktm, but without the extras |
| 13:27.51 | Galencia | but i dont think that day is soon |
| 13:28.26 | CIA-17 | 03otravi * r15174 10oCB/frame.lua: oCB: Added shadow to the text. |
| 13:29.00 | haste | I actually thought I merged the oCB Live and the oCB TBC versions frame.lua |
| 13:29.03 | Mikma | so Chronometer, oCB ... |
| 13:29.12 | haste | Mikma: huh? |
| 13:29.21 | Mikma | too much cooldown addons |
| 13:29.32 | haste | cooldown? |
| 13:29.34 | Industrial | chrono is spell duration |
| 13:29.36 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 13:29.36 | Galencia | ocb is a casting bar? |
| 13:29.38 | haste | what the hell does oCB has to do with cooldowns? |
| 13:29.39 | abbat_w | Mikma ;) |
| 13:29.43 | Mikma | oh right |
| 13:29.49 | Galencia | as in o Casting Bar |
| 13:29.50 | Galencia | :) |
| 13:29.54 | Mikma | i thought it was cooldown bar ;) |
| 13:29.56 | abbat_w | Mikma is jocker ) |
| 13:30.01 | haste | oCD is a cooldown mod tho' |
| 13:30.02 | omega__ | doktoreas: ok |
| 13:30.09 | Industrial | oCB cCD |
| 13:30.09 | Mikma | abbat_w: a rider? |
| 13:30.11 | Iceroth | and chronometer tracks your spell durations, not cooldowns :p |
| 13:30.15 | Galencia | as in o Cool Down, at a guess :p |
| 13:30.22 | haste | guess what the 'o' is for now |
| 13:30.32 | Industrial | otravi i win |
| 13:30.34 | Galencia | surely its not otravi? |
| 13:30.36 | haste | :D |
| 13:30.45 | Galencia | and otravi = haste? |
| 13:30.48 | haste | yes |
| 13:30.51 | Industrial | I demand pastry |
| 13:30.52 | Galencia | win! |
| 13:30.53 | abbat_w | Hmm... i don't know what rider mean in this context ;) Maybe something wrong. Sorry, can't answer '_ |
| 13:30.54 | Industrial | because I won |
| 13:31.12 | abbat_w | Galencia, also 'otravi' mean 'to poison' |
| 13:31.19 | Galencia | scary. |
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| 13:31.51 | Industrial | hmmm |
| 13:31.54 | haste | Industrial: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1161777019711.jpg << prize! |
| 13:31.55 | Industrial | I found a themesong |
| 13:31.56 | Industrial | for me |
| 13:31.59 | Iceroth | oh, another thing, if i interrupt my spell cast, why does ocb show it as succesful cast (green bar)? |
| 13:32.02 | Industrial | Sex Drugs and Industrial |
| 13:32.10 | haste | abbat_w: yeh, I didn't know that when I used it first tho' :p |
| 13:32.24 | Industrial | haste: lol |
| 13:32.26 | abbat_w | if i say 'i ortavil someone' it's equivalent to 'i was poison someone'. Haste has russian notation on his rogue ;) |
| 13:32.31 | Galencia | ocb wins the internetz |
| 13:32.31 | Industrial | oh how I love the internet |
| 13:33.02 | Galencia | i cant quite find a bar texture im amazingly happy with though :/ |
| 13:33.04 | haste | abbat_w: Otravi has been the name of my router the last five years :p |
| 13:33.11 | Industrial | Galencia: make your own |
| 13:33.16 | haste | I didn't know it ment poison until earlier this year |
| 13:33.19 | Galencia | Industrial: i suck at that sort of thing. |
| 13:33.19 | abbat_w | Ahah ;) |
| 13:33.22 | Industrial | Galencia: or just flat with a texture slapped on it |
| 13:33.24 | haste | heck, I didn't know it was a word until that |
| 13:33.29 | Galencia | im using smooth, atm |
| 13:33.29 | Industrial | anyone can do it |
| 13:33.32 | Galencia | or am i |
| 13:33.35 | Kalamadi | Banto FTW |
| 13:33.41 | haste | Glaze is superior! |
| 13:33.41 | Industrial | banto is too dark |
| 13:33.44 | Galencia | no i think im using default, actually |
| 13:33.47 | haste | ever since it hit my inbox |
| 13:34.00 | Industrial | I use my own |
| 13:34.01 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:34.10 | Galencia | screenshot or it never happened |
| 13:34.14 | Industrial | fine |
| 13:34.19 | Industrial | sec |
| 13:34.54 | haste | Kalamadi: haha |
| 13:34.57 | haste | <3 Kernel Panic |
| 13:35.00 | abbat_w | Galencia, use charcoal ;) |
| 13:35.09 | haste | especially when you overwrite the old kernel by mistake |
| 13:35.11 | abbat_w | best texture for ocb. or 'smooth' |
| 13:35.19 | haste | and have recently cleaned up old kernels |
| 13:35.26 | Kalamadi | From 1->2, I disabled a lot of modules, but nothing which appeared remotely critical |
| 13:35.30 | haste | abbat_w: Glaze! |
| 13:35.34 | haste | Glaze > all |
| 13:35.35 | Kalamadi | #2: PANIC! PANIC! |
| 13:35.43 | Galencia | lets see a screenshot of glaze |
| 13:35.44 | Galencia | i dont remember it |
| 13:35.49 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15175 10oRA2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:35.50 | CIA-17 | oRA2: PlayerTargets and MainTanks can now be assigned via the tooltip. |
| 13:35.50 | CIA-17 | Target the player, hover the tooltip, click the mouse. |
| 13:36.05 | haste | Galencia: http://www.beverpung.net/images/addons/ocb/oCB2-channeling.png |
| 13:36.25 | Laricwork | beverpung :P |
| 13:36.33 | haste | yeh, let's not talk about that name :p |
| 13:36.34 | Galencia | hmm |
| 13:36.36 | Laricwork | haste is that your domain? |
| 13:36.39 | haste | yes |
| 13:36.42 | Laricwork | lol |
| 13:36.47 | abbat_w | no, don't like this texture ;) |
| 13:36.51 | haste | registering a domain while your drunk has it's effects |
| 13:37.01 | Laricwork | roflmao |
| 13:37.05 | Galencia | whats with the line in the middle? |
| 13:37.06 | vhaarr | http://www.100monkeys.org/ |
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| 13:37.09 | vhaarr | That song rocks. |
| 13:37.17 | Industrial | http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_102506_153544c9e.jpg |
| 13:37.19 | Industrial | behold! |
| 13:37.24 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15176 10oRA2/ (Leader/MainTank.lua Optional/MainTank.lua): oRA2: defensive coding. |
| 13:37.39 | Galencia | screw defensive coding |
| 13:37.41 | Galencia | GIGO |
| 13:37.46 | Kalamadi | Industrial: What are we beholding? |
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| 13:37.57 | pb_ee1 | oRA2: one update per minute lol ;p |
| 13:38.03 | Industrial | dunno someone wanted a screenshot |
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| 13:38.37 | Galencia | your texture looks a lot like.. smooth |
| 13:38.51 | Industrial | yeah cause its just a gradient :P |
| 13:39.18 | Galencia | i dont even know what i want from a castnig bar texture |
| 13:39.27 | Galencia | i guess im not even bothered about the texture at all, i just need to change the blue |
| 13:39.44 | Kalamadi | I think I know what's causing the panic |
| 13:40.04 | Kalamadi | I've compiled Suspend2 in without specifying the resume volume, so it's trying to boot off ram or something |
| 13:40.10 | Kalamadi | It says it can't find "ram0" |
| 13:40.39 | abbat_w | Galencia ;) I think casting bar texture must be in one style with you unitframes hp/mana bars for example ;) |
| 13:41.01 | haste | haha |
| 13:41.15 | Galencia | abbat_w: yeah.. it is |
| 13:41.18 | haste | forum post in the guild forum: lots and lots of text in swedish, followed by: **Here i reazlied I was typing in swedish and cba to change it** |
| 13:41.22 | Galencia | like i say, i think its just the blue that annoys me |
| 13:41.26 | krka | abbat_w what is your native tongue? |
| 13:41.46 | abbat_w | krka, russian ;) |
| 13:41.53 | Galencia | da! |
| 13:42.04 | doktoreas | omega__, got a sec for me? |
| 13:42.10 | omega__ | doktoreas: sure |
| 13:42.13 | krka | cool |
| 13:42.30 | abbat_w | krka, but not tongue, language ;) |
| 13:42.32 | doktoreas | ok no error on perl makefile |
| 13:42.47 | krka | what do you mean? |
| 13:42.57 | omega__ | doktoreas: thats good :p |
| 13:42.57 | abbat_w | krka, i think i have same tongue what you have ;) |
| 13:43.01 | omega__ | doktoreas: make && make test? |
| 13:43.35 | doktoreas | omega__, running test... |
| 13:43.42 | omega__ | it takes some time :) |
| 13:44.03 | doktoreas | omega__, Failed 8/10 test scripts, 20.00% okay. 38/57 subtests failed, 33.33% okay. |
| 13:44.08 | abbat_w | My dictionary says what 'tongue' mean organ. Maybe i was wrong, sorry |
| 13:44.15 | omega__ | doktoreas: can you nopaste the complete test-output? |
| 13:44.30 | omega__ | or mail me? |
| 13:44.46 | krka | "native tongue" means your primary language |
| 13:44.48 | Galencia | abbat_w: |
| 13:44.48 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.48 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.49 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:45.02 | doktoreas | omega__, just a sec |
| 13:45.03 | abbat_w | Ups, sorry then i was wrong |
| 13:45.05 | Galencia | english is a terrible language |
| 13:45.18 | Galencia | many words that have multiple very different meanings |
| 13:45.30 | krka | Galencia: not just the words, the grammar too |
| 13:45.34 | abbat_w | this is right for many languages |
| 13:45.36 | Galencia | that too. |
| 13:45.39 | krka | as well as idioms, et.c. |
| 13:45.50 | Kalamadi | As far as being expressive, though, English is effective due to intricacy |
| 13:45.50 | [Ammo] | go go go get new oRA2 |
| 13:45.55 | doktoreas | omega__, http://rafb.net/paste/results/BVkj4n84.html |
| 13:45.58 | Galencia | roger wilco! |
| 13:46.03 | [Ammo] | MT/PTs in the tooltip! |
| 13:46.08 | [Ammo] | can't make it easier |
| 13:46.28 | abbat_w | russian too. but i never see what term 'tongue' has lexical meaning 'language' ;) |
| 13:46.34 | omega__ | doktoreas: uhm, thats not the complete output? |
| 13:46.39 | Kalamadi | Though I loathe trying to communicate facts in english |
| 13:46.56 | omega__ | doktoreas: seems liek you did > file and forgot to redirect stderr? |
| 13:47.09 | krka | Kalamadi: what do you prefer? |
| 13:47.29 | Aim2 | 2>&1 rox |
| 13:47.38 | Kalamadi | krka: English is the only language I effectively know, but I recognize how ineffective it is when I want to be terse |
| 13:47.58 | doktoreas | omega__, http://rafb.net/paste/results/pwkscx95.html |
| 13:48.13 | omega__ | doktoreas: aha |
| 13:48.19 | omega__ | I'm missing some deps it seems :p |
| 13:48.20 | omega__ | thanks |
| 13:49.24 | omega__ | doktoreas: if you try to svn update now |
| 13:49.30 | Kalamadi | So much fun, playing OTTD + WoW while compiling kernels on my other computer |
| 13:49.30 | omega__ | and run perl Makefile.PL again :p |
| 13:49.36 | doktoreas | omega__, sure! |
| 13:50.07 | omega__ | doktoreas: and thanks with the help shaking out theese bugs |
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| 13:52.02 | doktoreas | omega__, thx to you for supporting linux user! |
| 13:52.11 | doktoreas | i need 2 new modules..installing them |
| 13:53.09 | omega__ | doktoreas: I only play in linux myself :) |
| 13:53.14 | omega__ | or, linux and mac |
| 13:53.30 | haste | IT BURNS! |
| 13:53.38 | krka | what are you using perl for? |
| 13:53.54 | omega__ | krka: an addon-updater thingy |
| 13:54.03 | omega__ | atm it only supports wowace |
| 13:54.04 | doktoreas | omega__, on wich server are you? |
| 13:54.04 | steino | haste is addicted to the zippo guy |
| 13:54.09 | haste | yes |
| 13:54.11 | steino | :) |
| 13:54.12 | omega__ | doktoreas: haomarush-eu |
| 13:54.16 | haste | he's cool! |
| 13:54.19 | haste | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-617919123983277583 :D |
| 13:54.21 | steino | he burns |
| 13:54.28 | omega__ | but plan is to support other addonsites as well |
| 13:54.29 | krka | why not write it in Lua? :) |
| 13:54.42 | omega__ | I dont know lua as good as I know perl :) |
| 13:54.43 | haste | I wrote a add on updater in Lua! |
| 13:54.50 | haste | just for fun |
| 13:54.52 | steino | its not working! |
| 13:54.56 | steino | anymore |
| 13:54.58 | [Ammo] | I use ctrl-a rightclick svn up :p |
| 13:54.58 | steino | :) |
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| 13:55.04 | haste | yeh, they changed the format after I wrote it |
| 13:55.06 | haste | so no wonder :p |
| 13:55.11 | steino | ye |
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| 13:55.16 | Galencia | haomarush eh.. |
| 13:55.19 | steino | i just write "update" and it uses svn instead :) |
| 13:55.26 | Galencia | new or old @ haomarush? |
| 13:55.36 | omega__ | Galencia: are there more than one? |
| 13:55.40 | omega__ | dunno. the eu pvp server |
| 13:55.50 | Galencia | i mean.. are you new on it, or have you been on it since it opened :) |
| 13:56.22 | Galencia | i can still remember the opening day.. ive never seen so many undeads in one place |
| 13:56.26 | omega__ | ahh, since it opened |
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| 13:56.48 | omega__ | well, I think I held off for a few days :p |
| 13:56.57 | omega__ | it was basicly an alt server for me and some friends at start |
| 13:57.02 | doktoreas | omega__, running test |
| 13:57.05 | omega__ | but then we switched full-time |
| 13:57.14 | Galencia | hmm, dont recognise your name, and i thought i knew most of the old skool haomarush people |
| 13:57.23 | omega__ | Galencia: this is not my ingame name :p |
| 13:57.29 | Galencia | figures. :p |
| 13:57.34 | omega__ | and I'm alliance, not horde |
| 13:57.37 | doktoreas | omega__, Failed 8/10 test scripts, 20.00% okay. 38/57 subtests failed, 33.33% okay |
| 13:57.46 | omega__ | doktoreas: you know the drill, nopaste :p |
| 13:57.48 | Galencia | you arent in exiled, are you? |
| 13:57.50 | omega__ | prolly another missing dep |
| 13:57.55 | omega__ | Galencia: nope, in buccaneers |
| 13:58.00 | Galencia | oh good. :) |
| 13:58.11 | omega__ | you hate exiied? |
| 13:58.23 | Galencia | hate is a strong word |
| 13:58.28 | omega__ | dislike? |
| 13:58.31 | Galencia | but not strong enough |
| 13:58.35 | omega__ | haha |
| 13:58.38 | Mikma | you strong word exiled? |
| 13:58.58 | Galencia | most of the people i knew from horde rerolled alliance and joined exiled |
| 13:59.03 | omega__ | ahh |
| 13:59.03 | Galencia | totally killed the horde side of the server |
| 13:59.08 | omega__ | mhm |
| 13:59.11 | doktoreas | omega__, http://rafb.net/paste/results/xNKu1071.html |
| 13:59.34 | omega__ | doktoreas: your still missing Module::Pluggable |
| 13:59.51 | doktoreas | perl MAkefile prompt no error |
| 14:00.00 | omega__ | so perl Makefile.PL should complain with atleast one "Warning: missing prereq" |
| 14:00.17 | omega__ | doktoreas: try: "perl -MModule::Pluggable" |
| 14:00.43 | omega__ | Galencia: it seems most of horde haomarush isnt very into pve? |
| 14:00.47 | omega__ | atleast not naxx? |
| 14:00.52 | Galencia | they were... |
| 14:00.55 | omega__ | aha |
| 14:01.06 | omega__ | exiied downed 4 horse men last night |
| 14:01.08 | Galencia | do you remember envy? and incoroprated.. and.. no more nexus? |
| 14:01.14 | omega__ | yeah |
| 14:01.38 | Galencia | well incorporated did a guild reroll to vek |
| 14:01.57 | Galencia | noctum killed envy, and then imploded under its own shitstorm |
| 14:02.07 | Galencia | and most of the people who broke the horde side server transferred |
| 14:02.12 | Galencia | leaving only jotun and random guilds |
| 14:02.19 | Galencia | and jotun were never really any good |
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| 14:02.39 | omega__ | jotun was the "lets make a swedish only guild" of the horde-side? |
| 14:02.44 | Galencia | that was noctum |
| 14:02.47 | omega__ | ahh, rite |
| 14:03.01 | Galencia | they broke apart most of the horde guilds by stealing all the swedish members |
| 14:03.08 | omega__ | mhm |
| 14:03.16 | Galencia | then after they couldnt raid anymore decided to make the "international" guild no more nexus |
| 14:03.17 | omega__ | STALLET tried the same on alliance side |
| 14:03.21 | Galencia | and stole the rest :) |
| 14:03.23 | omega__ | hehe |
| 14:03.26 | Galencia | then fell apart through mismanagement |
| 14:03.30 | Galencia | and transferred away! |
| 14:03.38 | omega__ | nice |
| 14:03.41 | omega__ | leaving you? :) |
| 14:03.47 | Galencia | indeed |
| 14:03.56 | omega__ | Galencia: which guild are you in? |
| 14:04.00 | Galencia | i left around the time envy disbanded(envy was my guild) |
| 14:04.09 | Kalamadi | Bleh. How do I keep menuconfig from loading my previous .config? |
| 14:04.12 | omega__ | or one of the loner pvp wolfs? |
| 14:04.19 | Galencia | i dont play on haomarush anymore |
| 14:04.20 | omega__ | Kalamadi: move it out of the way |
| 14:04.23 | doktoreas | omega__, now test a run a bit slower...i think is a good sign :) |
| 14:04.23 | omega__ | Galencia: ahh |
| 14:04.26 | Galencia | but you might see "the outsiders" around |
| 14:04.29 | Galencia | i made that guild |
| 14:04.31 | omega__ | doktoreas: indeed :p |
| 14:04.33 | Galencia | they are doing quite well now |
| 14:04.37 | omega__ | Galencia: cool |
| 14:04.57 | omega__ | bucca finaly cleared spider wing in naxx last night |
| 14:05.16 | Galencia | buccaneers were always the "cute" guild that everyone liked :) |
| 14:05.59 | omega__ | hehe :) |
| 14:06.01 | Galencia | one of my friends from envy is now in curse.. |
| 14:06.18 | Industrial | hmm, 18844 honor on one day is that alot? :P |
| 14:06.31 | Galencia | Industrial: depends what you mean by a lot |
| 14:06.38 | Galencia | if you're farming.. no, it's not. :) |
| 14:07.06 | Industrial | No Im jsut plaing for fun :P |
| 14:07.11 | Industrial | playing* |
| 14:07.18 | omega__ | if its TBC, its alot I think :p |
| 14:07.24 | Industrial | heh |
| 14:07.54 | omega__ | Galencia: I only recently joined bucca though |
| 14:07.55 | abbat_w | Industrial, tipically in my server farmers teams got about 700k honor / week |
| 14:08.13 | doktoreas | omega__, http://rafb.net/paste/results/iYqt9L73.html |
| 14:08.13 | Galencia | omega__: ahha |
| 14:08.15 | abbat_w | 20k honor it's about 1k frags ;) |
| 14:08.21 | omega__ | on haomarush, the top 10 usually has 1.000.000+ |
| 14:08.24 | Industrial | ack where do i fetch my pvp equipment in UC |
| 14:08.25 | abbat_w | no, 100 frags |
| 14:08.26 | abbat_w | sorry |
| 14:08.38 | omega__ | Galencia: I never really raided much befoire |
| 14:08.47 | omega__ | but my friends finaly convinced me to try some |
| 14:08.50 | Galencia | gotcha |
| 14:09.00 | Galencia | im going the opposite way |
| 14:09.03 | Galencia | i recently quit raiding :) |
| 14:09.03 | abbat_w | pvp equipment in UC? i think you can buy it only in OG |
| 14:09.10 | Industrial | k :P |
| 14:10.05 | omega__ | doktoreas: install Archive::Zip atleast |
| 14:10.08 | Galencia | i dont think i could go back to horde raiding now ive been alliance.. |
| 14:10.21 | doktoreas | installed |
| 14:10.36 | doktoreas | after the last log i posted |
| 14:10.46 | omega__ | ok |
| 14:10.51 | omega__ | I will investigate the other failures |
| 14:11.01 | doktoreas | thx |
| 14:11.01 | omega__ | since we are talking live tests here, it might be the test-cases that are wrong |
| 14:11.59 | omega__ | Galencia: hehe, what would you miss? blessings? |
| 14:12.26 | doktoreas | omega__, i can get installed addon list :D |
| 14:12.29 | Galencia | omega__: yes. :) |
| 14:12.39 | Galencia | and fear ward |
| 14:12.45 | Galencia | (my newest char is a dorf priest) |
| 14:12.55 | omega__ | hehe, its so funny when a paladin screams on vent or raidchat "REMOVE SALV ON TANKS" |
| 14:12.59 | omega__ | ahh, yeah |
| 14:13.11 | omega__ | I played a UD priest on wow-eu launch, on skullcrusher |
| 14:13.11 | Galencia | yeah our paladins had yell macros |
| 14:13.20 | Galencia | and you could spot when they didnt use them |
| 14:13.24 | Galencia | tanks are so damned stupid sometimes |
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| 14:13.33 | omega__ | tried to play ally-priest (dwarf) |
| 14:13.39 | omega__ | but missed devouvering plague too much |
| 14:13.51 | Galencia | my char on haomarush(well, one of them) is a undead priest |
| 14:14.16 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15177 10oRA2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: AceHook 2.1 usage. Will need tweaking for TBC still. |
| 14:14.23 | Galencia | thats an interesting thought though |
| 14:14.28 | doktoreas | omega__, i am testing upgrading all my addon |
| 14:14.33 | Galencia | will nefarian have paladin and shaman calls in tbc? :) |
| 14:14.36 | omega__ | doktoreas: hope you took a backup :p |
| 14:14.39 | Galencia | not that many people will do bwl, but still.. |
| 14:14.42 | doktoreas | omega__, sure :D |
| 14:14.43 | omega__ | Galencia: hehe |
| 14:14.45 | omega__ | doktoreas: good :p |
| 14:14.54 | omega__ | doktoreas: the tests where just out of date |
| 14:15.00 | omega__ | so updating them now |
| 14:15.03 | Industrial | omega__: watcha doin? |
| 14:15.07 | doktoreas | omega__, i'll write some doc about your app |
| 14:15.37 | omega__ | Galencia: I've actually been more in Naxx than in MC, BWL and AQ20 together :p |
| 14:15.43 | omega__ | Industrial: me? not much? |
| 14:15.49 | Galencia | hehe |
| 14:15.55 | Galencia | i miss naxx, its kinad fun |
| 14:16.07 | omega__ | so I must be the shittiest equiped mage ever doing anything in naxx |
| 14:16.12 | Galencia | dont miss the farming though.. |
| 14:16.24 | Galencia | ah yes, naxx was most fun on my mage |
| 14:16.36 | omega__ | Industrial: I'm writing a wow addon manager |
| 14:16.44 | omega__ | Industrial: that so far supports wowace.com |
| 14:16.54 | omega__ | with curse-gaming etc on the drawing board |
| 14:17.04 | doktoreas | omega__, Upgrading FuBar_LocationFu to 14679 from 2.0 |
| 14:17.14 | doktoreas | from 2 to 14679? |
| 14:17.16 | doktoreas | :D |
| 14:17.28 | omega__ | doktoreas: it tries to parse version-numbers from installed addons |
| 14:17.44 | omega__ | and what it found was 2.0 |
| 14:17.53 | Amadeo | What would make my UI memory start at 15MB, grow to 18MB, then randomly drop down to 14MB and stay there? |
| 14:17.54 | omega__ | the versionnumber on the wowace-backend is the revision-number |
| 14:18.02 | doktoreas | all other addon were upgraded fine...awesome! |
| 14:18.08 | omega__ | cool |
| 14:18.16 | omega__ | glad to see it helped someone other than myself :) |
| 14:18.25 | [Ammo] | Amadeo: the first GC removes libs that are nil'd out |
| 14:18.33 | Amadeo | [Ammo]: But it takes a long time |
| 14:18.38 | Amadeo | how long between GC's? |
| 14:18.44 | Amadeo | this could be an hour or more before it drops |
| 14:18.46 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:18.47 | Amadeo | or sometimes it doesn't |
| 14:18.56 | doktoreas | if people that it's very difficult get account hacked on linux, they will move on it |
| 14:19.00 | Amadeo | hm |
| 14:19.02 | Amadeo | interesting |
| 14:19.06 | doktoreas | omega__, i found a 404 url not found |
| 14:19.14 | pb_ee1 | Is the revision automatically added to the line ## Version of the .TOC file when comitting to WoWAce SVN, |
| 14:19.17 | pb_ee1 | ? |
| 14:19.22 | doktoreas | with oRA2 |
| 14:19.29 | Amadeo | [Ammo]: So all the extra Ace2 libs are loaded until the GC? |
| 14:19.43 | [Ammo] | yeah amadeo |
| 14:19.51 | Amadeo | Thanks for the info, I never knew that :) |
| 14:20.01 | [Ammo] | read the memory concerns page |
| 14:20.03 | [Ammo] | it epxlains |
| 14:20.29 | Amadeo | Is it bad to force an early GC? |
| 14:20.37 | [Ammo] | can't see why |
| 14:20.54 | omega__ | doktoreas: ohh, which url? |
| 14:20.57 | Amadeo | ok :) |
| 14:21.38 | krka | Amadeo: don't bother with gc stuff, it will be fixed in lua 5.1 that comes with TBC anyway |
| 14:21.45 | sylvanaar | i was looking at the warmup code. is there a way for 1 addon to know the size of its saved variables? |
| 14:22.02 | doktoreas | omega__, http://rafb.net/paste/results/fIqmZR98.html |
| 14:22.16 | doktoreas | talking about oRA2, how can i move tanks window? |
| 14:22.40 | snurre | alt+drag |
| 14:22.42 | tekcub | no sylvanaar, we don't know when the SV start/finish loading |
| 14:22.58 | sylvanaar | thats what i figured |
| 14:22.58 | tekcub | only that when ADOON_LOADED is fired the SV have been loaded |
| 14:23.17 | omega__ | doktoreas: hms, strange |
| 14:23.24 | Mikma | tekcub: did ya see the picture i pasted for you? |
| 14:23.28 | sylvanaar | but you get all the other addons inbetween added in |
| 14:23.36 | tekcub | bacon button part 2? |
| 14:23.37 | tekcub | :) |
| 14:23.46 | Mikma | yah :D |
| 14:24.10 | tekcub | I sent it to my coworker, she didn't really understand my avatar |
| 14:24.15 | Industrial | < omega__> Industrial: I'm writing a wow addon manager |
| 14:24.16 | Industrial | nice |
| 14:24.33 | Industrial | omega__: going to include curse wowinterface and ui.worldofwar? |
| 14:24.37 | Mikma | hehe. i laughed my ass off when the picture opened up on my comp |
| 14:24.44 | tekcub | okey off to get my new jorb |
| 14:24.46 | omega__ | Industrial: thats the plan, yeah |
| 14:24.52 | Industrial | you could agree on an api with all of them :> |
| 14:25.01 | omega__ | Industrial: thats the plan, yeah :p |
| 14:25.03 | Industrial | would kickass for the entire addon world |
| 14:25.15 | Industrial | gl |
| 14:25.17 | Industrial | bbl |
| 14:25.18 | Galencia | omega__: does it currently just get the beta addons from the /files ? |
| 14:25.24 | omega__ | Galencia: yeah |
| 14:25.32 | Galencia | oki |
| 14:25.36 | Mikma | addon manager? |
| 14:25.38 | omega__ | and currently only with a command-line interface |
| 14:25.39 | Mikma | ingame or out |
| 14:25.42 | omega__ | out |
| 14:25.49 | omega__ | addon manager/installer/upgrader |
| 14:25.57 | omega__ | the command-line interface is called wow-get |
| 14:26.03 | omega__ | so you all know where the inspiration came from :p |
| 14:26.06 | Galencia | haha |
| 14:26.10 | Mikma | omega__: well we already have a svn ;) |
| 14:26.14 | sylvanaar | Industrial: ui.wow has UICentral which covers most addons |
| 14:26.14 | omega__ | planning a gui-client as well |
| 14:26.15 | Galencia | the problem with those sorts of apps, is blizzards tend to dislik ethem |
| 14:26.25 | doktoreas | brb |
| 14:26.33 | omega__ | Mikma: the plan is to support other places than just wowace.com/files though |
| 14:26.37 | Mikma | yay, another fancy windows gui |
| 14:26.38 | omega__ | like curse, wowi etc |
| 14:26.45 | omega__ | nah, not windows |
| 14:26.46 | omega__ | gtk2 |
| 14:26.50 | omega__ | and possibly cocoa |
| 14:26.53 | omega__ | :) |
| 14:26.58 | Mikma | cocoa please. |
| 14:27.25 | Galencia | gtk2 is horrid |
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| 14:27.35 | omega__ | well, I'm a gnome user myself |
| 14:27.35 | Galencia | niceish library, but looks crap |
| 14:27.42 | omega__ | so its the first logical frontend |
| 14:27.52 | omega__ | I think the later versions look kinda sleek |
| 14:28.02 | omega__ | with cairo n shit getting into the mix |
| 14:28.17 | Galencia | admittedly i havent looked at it in some time |
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| 14:28.26 | Galencia | but you can really see the crapness when you run a gtk2 app on windows :) |
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| 14:28.34 | omega__ | that I havent tried :) |
| 14:28.47 | Galencia | it looks all well and good when its mixed with other gtk2 apps |
| 14:28.48 | omega__ | I dont have windows, except in parallels on my MBP for work |
| 14:28.56 | Galencia | but put it in a "pretty" environment as windows, and eww |
| 14:29.01 | Mikma | next time someone eats yoghurt, remember to tell them that they are eating a living bacteria ;) |
| 14:29.11 | omega__ | Galencia: then again, vent in wine doesnt look smashing either :p |
| 14:29.22 | Galencia | hehe |
| 14:29.43 | omega__ | Galencia: and same with gtk2, it wont look "in place" before someone implements the widgets as wrappers for windows controls |
| 14:29.47 | Galencia | Mikma: you do realise your body has millions of "living bacteria", in it, right? |
| 14:29.53 | omega__ | and on your skin |
| 14:29.56 | omega__ | in your mouth |
| 14:29.59 | omega__ | your ass |
| 14:29.59 | omega__ | etc |
| 14:30.07 | Galencia | not all of it is bad :) |
| 14:30.09 | Mikma | Galencia: omg noooo! *shoots himself* |
| 14:30.18 | Galencia | without some of it, you would... um.. die? |
| 14:30.23 | Mikma | yeah |
| 14:30.25 | Galencia | or at least be quite ill |
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| 14:30.37 | Mikma | not all bacteria is bad |
| 14:30.55 | omega__ | ah well, heading home from work |
| 14:31.03 | Galencia | jealous |
| 14:31.09 | Galencia | 2 hours left here :( |
| 14:31.21 | omega__ | http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=oRA2_Buff/ |
| 14:31.33 | omega__ | that addon is causing me headaches on my updater though |
| 14:31.39 | omega__ | it breaks the filename pattern |
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| 14:32.16 | omega__ | which ultimately made me not test it, as I couldnt install it using wow-get :p |
| 14:32.18 | omega__ | well, laters all |
| 14:32.21 | omega__ | have fun |
| 14:32.34 | pb_ee1 | See you ;) |
| 14:33.07 | pb_ee1 | Ho, is the revision number automatically added to the line ## Version of the .TOC file when comitting to WoWAce SVN? |
| 14:35.12 | Fudge | omega__, I think that one breaks WAU too.. the latest.txt doesn't match the revision on the zip files. |
| 14:36.20 | sylvanaar | its that its a branch |
| 14:37.13 | Fudge | sylvanaar, shouldn't there be at least a non-branch zip file in there, though? :o |
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| 14:37.53 | sylvanaar | not if its being developed off the trunk |
| 14:38.03 | doktoreas | back |
| 14:38.07 | doktoreas | omega__, all addon worked fine |
| 14:38.54 | sylvanaar | ie - never committed to the trunk - just to a branch sorta thing |
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| 14:40.11 | sylvanaar | i dont think you should be getting the branch versions in any auto updater |
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| 14:41.40 | doktoreas | omega__, for oRA2 the link in browser works fine |
| 14:41.53 | doktoreas | can be a file name parser problem? |
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| 14:45.02 | sylvanaar | yeah, maybe wasnt branched properly |
| 14:46.07 | sylvanaar | wait...no oRA2_Buff in the trunk...yeah |
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| 14:50.20 | doktoreas | is there a way to change the oRA2 option to drag win with another key? |
| 14:50.24 | doktoreas | i can't use alt |
| 14:50.43 | krka | just hook AltKeyPressed :P |
| 14:50.50 | krka | or whatever it's called |
| 14:50.58 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15178 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib: now WoW2.0 and WoW1.12 compatible. |
| 14:51.00 | doktoreas | krka, in wich file? |
| 14:51.12 | krka | could do it ingame, via /script |
| 14:51.55 | doktoreas | krka, sorry what should i issue if i wanna use ctrl instead of alt? |
| 14:52.08 | JoshBorke | krka: i guess with WoW 2.0 GRAB is sorta fubar? |
| 14:52.53 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.59 | krka | JoshBorke: yeah, pretty much |
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| 14:57.28 | Sairen | are hooks (using acehook) automatically unhooked when calling :OnDisable() ? |
| 14:57.52 | [Ammo] | yeah |
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| 15:05.19 | Kalamadi | Haha, I just got a 1.2s delay wand on my warlock |
| 15:05.36 | Kalamadi | If I hit .1s of latency difference, I have one long swing and then have a sort of double swing |
| 15:05.47 | Kalamadi | Where I shoot a bolt on the way down with the wand and another on the way up :O |
| 15:06.45 | Galencia | no doubt your client being slow in picking up the fact the server has recieved your wand shoot messages :) |
| 15:07.29 | Kalamadi | Doesn't keep it from looking cool. |
| 15:07.35 | Galencia | :) |
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| 15:08.44 | Kalamadi | I've a problem with grinding on my warlock |
| 15:09.11 | Kalamadi | I have the imp. VW talents, but it can't hold threat off me; what's another talent build that's good for grinding for, say, a LV30 warlock? |
| 15:10.13 | Galencia | i heard afflication is the best for levelling |
| 15:10.19 | Galencia | just load up dots and wand |
| 15:10.22 | Galencia | you shoulda pull aggro |
| 15:10.45 | CIA-17 | 03sairen * r15179 10cyCircled/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:10.45 | CIA-17 | cyCircled: |
| 15:10.45 | CIA-17 | - Added support for: Bongos (ActionBar, PetBar, ClassBar), XAD, TrinketMenu |
| 15:10.45 | CIA-17 | - Pubcrawl-Plugin: Skin is applied to new created buttons |
| 15:10.45 | CIA-17 | - Serenity-Skin: Fixed autocast buttons |
| 15:11.11 | Galencia | s/shoulda/shouldn't/ |
| 15:11.50 | Kalamadi | That's sorta what I'm doing already |
| 15:11.59 | Kalamadi | And my VW - even improved - doesn't stand a chance :x |
| 15:12.16 | Kalamadi | I go CoA -> Immolate -> Corruption -> wand |
| 15:12.24 | Kalamadi | And he usually loses aggro ~60% |
| 15:12.39 | Kalamadi | That's with me out of melee range, so I'm outaggroing by 30%+ |
| 15:12.41 | Galencia | lose the wand maybe |
| 15:14.44 | Kalamadi | That's a loss of ~24 DPS :/ |
| 15:14.50 | Galencia | or give your little voidy a bit of time |
| 15:15.10 | sylvanaar | the void walker was just designed for CoA + Suffering + Corruption + Sufffering.....the key is letting him taunt more |
| 15:15.10 | Kalamadi | I'm level 29 now, so |
| 15:15.54 | Galencia | maybe load up the dots, wait a coulpe of taunt cycles then wand |
| 15:16.00 | Kalamadi | I'm considering going for Siphon Life and an Imp, then using fear-kite to take down mobs while mitigating damage |
| 15:16.20 | sylvanaar | you want to back load the damage for obvious reasons |
| 15:16.33 | sylvanaar | thats why CoA is how it is |
| 15:16.49 | Kalamadi | If I take on mobs slightly higher level than my own, the VW can't even hold through DoTs, however :/ |
| 15:16.50 | Elkano | damn... I've got to write a presentation on breaking SSL :/ |
| 15:18.12 | Slayman | Elkano: say it can't be broken at all. Presentation Done |
| 15:18.27 | Fudge | Kalamadi, drain-tanking works. |
| 15:19.13 | Elkano | Slayman, SSL implementation in eg openSLL 0.9.7 could almost be broken using a stopwatch... |
| 15:19.28 | sylvanaar | sorry not suffering the other one --- what is called |
| 15:19.40 | Slayman | Elkano: so you fucked yourself, sorry for you |
| 15:19.46 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 15:20.00 | Kalamadi | Fudge: So just Drain Life + Siphon Life is enough to grind with? |
| 15:20.04 | Elkano | well, it's only a 5min presentation about a paper |
| 15:20.08 | Slayman | Elkano: to get around it pretend u don't know that, and you're donw |
| 15:20.22 | Slayman | s/donw/done |
| 15:20.37 | Slayman | s/donw/done/ |
| 15:20.38 | Elkano | the paper is about breaking it using timing attacks ^^' |
| 15:20.53 | Fudge | Kalamadi, dot the mob up and drain life with that improved talent that lowers chance of interruption while channeling spells. Siphon Life isn't really worth it unless the mob stays alive for the whole duration of the spell. |
| 15:20.55 | Slayman | purl, bad bot |
| 15:21.02 | purl | Bad bot, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 15:21.21 | Fudge | Kalamadi, also, get some +shadow damage gear when you can to make the drian tanking even more effective. |
| 15:21.24 | Slayman | i have to admit, i like purl, he's my new best friend |
| 15:21.29 | Slayman | purl, hug |
| 15:21.31 | purl | ACTION jumps into slayman's lap and huggles and *hugs* slayman! |
| 15:21.48 | Kalamadi | Fudge: Siphon Life is a prerequisite for Shadow Mastery, either way |
| 15:22.02 | sylvanaar | at level 29 you have torment 1 (45 threat) and suffering 2(150 threat aoe w/ long cooldown) |
| 15:22.06 | Elkano | ~botsnack |
| 15:22.06 | purl | Elkano: aw, gee |
| 15:22.49 | Slayman | purl, good bot |
| 15:22.49 | purl | thanks, Slayman |
| 15:22.49 | Fudge | Kalamadi, yeah, but you don't have to cast it. ;P |
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| 15:22.52 | Kalamadi | Alright, I'll try some of this out shortly |
| 15:23.15 | sylvanaar | add that to his damage (not much) multiply by 2 and that says how much damage you can apply |
| 15:23.54 | sylvanaar | not x2 sorry x1.3 i think |
| 15:23.57 | pb_ee1 | haste: oRA2 gives me this error: Interface\AddOns\FuBar\libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:672 AceLocale-2.2: Translation "GetShortSpellIcon" does not exist |
| 15:24.24 | haste | update, and oRA2 = Ammo's work |
| 15:25.01 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15180 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib: Bugfix. |
| 15:25.06 | pb_ee1 | haste: I already updated with WinAceUpdater, sorry I saw your name in the Authors list ;) |
| 15:25.28 | haste | I don't get the that error here at least |
| 15:25.37 | haste | and I believe Ammo said that wasn't a oRA issue, not 100% sure tho' |
| 15:26.08 | pb_ee1 | Should I clean the WTF/WDB/Interface folders and try installing everything again? |
| 15:26.20 | pb_ee1 | (With WinAceUpdater?) |
| 15:26.26 | Galencia | cant hurt. |
| 15:26.34 | Galencia | especially if you back them up first |
| 15:26.44 | pb_ee1 | sure ;) |
| 15:27.08 | pb_ee1 | But these errors poped out when I started using WinAceUpdater. Strange :| |
| 15:28.18 | Galencia | ive noticed that winaceupdater can be somewhat unhealthy for the workage of ones addons |
| 15:28.53 | Galencia | im not entirely sure why.. |
| 15:29.17 | sylvanaar | it is because when embedded libraris are removed from an addon, they arent removed from a users local copy |
| 15:29.20 | pb_ee1 | So how do you do when you want to update your addons? http://www.wowace.com/files/ ? |
| 15:30.47 | Galencia | sylvanaar: ah! yes that was it |
| 15:30.52 | Galencia | we decided this earllier.. |
| 15:31.00 | Galencia | pb_ee1: i still use it, but turn on the "delete before update" option |
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| 15:31.17 | sylvanaar | that option works for WAU |
| 15:31.28 | sylvanaar | but still leaves the problem for the zips |
| 15:31.44 | Galencia | indeed |
| 15:32.05 | pb_ee1 | I have already enabled this option anyway |
| 15:33.34 | sylvanaar | my only thought was to create svn externals called <libraryname>-null, which would replace the old external instead of just deleting it. These externals would link to a file with the correct name but 0 byte length. |
| 15:34.25 | sylvanaar | its not really pretty - but does fix the problem |
| 15:34.29 | DrDre | I wish i could do a no-ext update but some my addons bug out on dewdrop and other things :( |
| 15:35.35 | pb_ee1 | Still have the same error sniff |
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| 15:35.49 | sylvanaar | i think you can supposedly with the !!!sharedlibrares |
| 15:36.41 | pb_ee1 | haste: no, another one, coming from AceHook -- oRA2\Libs\AceHook-2.1\AceHook-2.1.lua:537 Attempt to index a nil value |
| 15:36.43 | sylvanaar | on what addon? |
| 15:36.50 | pb_ee1 | oRA2 |
| 15:37.05 | pb_ee1 | And I just deleted WDB/WTF/Interface |
| 15:37.15 | pb_ee1 | Checked in WinACE, updated with externals |
| 15:37.17 | haste | AddOnX Being in the error path != AddOnX fault |
| 15:37.24 | haste | are you disembeeding tho'? |
| 15:37.30 | pb_ee1 | Launched the game and *poof* a big error message |
| 15:37.33 | haste | ie. fetching without externals? |
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| 15:37.54 | usz | get Ace2 too, will work |
| 15:37.56 | haste | I have no idea what it's called in WoWAceUpdater, as I don't have windows |
| 15:38.14 | pb_ee1 | Do you mean I should fetch WITHOUT externals? |
| 15:38.21 | pb_ee1 | And install the standalone library Ace2? |
| 15:38.25 | usz | even tho externals are shipped with mods, i noticed sometimes you actually need Ace2 |
| 15:38.33 | haste | no, I asked if you did |
| 15:38.34 | usz | yea, get standalone Ace2 |
| 15:38.41 | pb_ee1 | No I didn't |
| 15:38.48 | haste | usz: if you need Ace2, slap the author :D ? |
| 15:38.57 | pb_ee1 | I just downloaded with the option "get externals" |
| 15:39.01 | usz | sure... BW buggs without Ace2 ^^ |
| 15:39.04 | usz | at least for me :) |
| 15:39.06 | Galencia | yeah if you need ace2 thats a pretty non standard addon :) |
| 15:39.11 | haste | It doesn't for me :D |
| 15:39.23 | usz | hmmm lemme make test then |
| 15:39.36 | pb_ee1 | And I've got quite the same error on Detox, it's always concerning an Ace2 library |
| 15:39.57 | usz | just check if getting Ace2 fixed your problem ^^ |
| 15:40.09 | pb_ee1 | Atm i've got: Fubar2, oRA2, sct, sct_options, sRaidFrames and this ugly error frame :'( |
| 15:40.17 | pb_ee1 | I think I'm going to do this ;p |
| 15:40.19 | haste | pb_ee1: Little Tips, Try with only addon X enabled |
| 15:40.21 | haste | and see if it errors |
| 15:40.27 | haste | if it does, notify the author |
| 15:40.42 | haste | then it will actually get fixed faster! |
| 15:40.49 | pb_ee1 | T_T |
| 15:40.57 | pb_ee1 | No errors if I enable only oRA2 -_-' |
| 15:41.04 | nevcairiel | hello |
| 15:41.06 | Galencia | pb_ee1: whats the error, ooi? sonuds like something i had.. |
| 15:41.44 | sylvanaar | o |
| 15:41.47 | haste | pb_ee1: then it's not oRA2's fault :) |
| 15:41.51 | usz | ok test failed on my side, removed Ace2 and got error in BigWigs\Libs\AceHook-2.1\AceHook-2.1.lua:537: attempt to index a nil value |
| 15:42.02 | sylvanaar | ir looks like a code error |
| 15:42.06 | haste | usz: getting the error from there doesn't mean it's BigWigs that generates it |
| 15:42.09 | pb_ee1 | FuBar + oRA2 = Interface\AddOns\oRA2\Libs\AceHook-2.1\AceHook-2.1.lua:537 attempt to index a nil value |
| 15:42.16 | haste | it just means that it's the lib in BigWigs that's used and generates it's |
| 15:42.23 | sylvanaar | you get that when you have no object yet |
| 15:42.35 | pb_ee1 | haste: Indeed, my bad for thinking that you did have a bug in your code (boooo ^^) |
| 15:42.41 | haste | Ammo's! |
| 15:42.45 | usz | haste, true, any way to find what causes it? |
| 15:42.48 | sergio | i blame haste anyway |
| 15:42.52 | sergio | no hot girl story |
| 15:42.54 | pb_ee1 | In Ammo's code then! ;p |
| 15:42.59 | haste | usz: well, enable add on X and Y, see what happens |
| 15:43.09 | haste | then try just X, and just Y, if both work alone, poke the authors |
| 15:43.09 | usz | binary search huh? |
| 15:43.12 | Galencia | ah ok, not the thing i had |
| 15:43.35 | nevcairiel | SimpleCombatLog is failing for me since the ParserLib update today, anyone any idea? |
| 15:44.03 | pb_ee1 | FuBar-2.0 alone = OK, oRA2 alone = OK, Fubar-2.0 + oRA2 together = *boom* error message |
| 15:44.23 | pb_ee1 | strange :/ |
| 15:44.49 | Galencia | i suspect one has the "wrong" version of AceHook |
| 15:44.58 | usz | its FuBar it seems |
| 15:45.02 | nevcairiel | i dont get any error with those, updated from SVN |
| 15:45.10 | usz | if i turn it off, leaving all other addons on, it doesnt throw error |
| 15:45.22 | nevcairiel | copy the acehook from ora to the fubar dir, maybe helps |
| 15:45.24 | Galencia | nevcairiel: you wouldnt, svn pulls in the libs from edternals |
| 15:45.27 | Galencia | externals* |
| 15:45.30 | pb_ee1 | usz: Yep, I've seen this too |
| 15:45.44 | Galencia | pb_ee1: yes, copy acehook-2.1 folder into fubar dir |
| 15:45.46 | Galencia | and try again |
| 15:45.47 | [Ammo] | what with meh? |
| 15:46.00 | Saroz | sup peeps |
| 15:46.01 | Galencia | nothing dear, go back to sleep |
| 15:46.12 | [Ammo] | well I saw people blaming oRA2 for stuffs |
| 15:46.23 | Galencia | seems like you updated acehook-2.1 is all |
| 15:46.26 | Galencia | and some others havent |
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| 15:46.39 | [Ammo] | I did not update AceHook2.1 |
| 15:46.49 | [Ammo] | it's been updated for some time now |
| 15:46.57 | [Ammo] | just some older zip's have an old version |
| 15:47.10 | Galencia | sounds plausible |
| 15:47.18 | usz | ahh that might actually explain it |
| 15:48.14 | [Ammo] | it's the whole "AceHook2.1 breaks my interface" thread again |
| 15:48.37 | [Ammo] | and it's all the .zip's fault :p |
| 15:48.50 | pb_ee1 | Galencia: I think I'm going to take Ace2 and JostleLib and a few other thins in standalone I think |
| 15:48.51 | usz | well, temporary fix for this problem is to install standalone Ace2 |
| 15:48.59 | [Ammo] | some people like HellKnightFA aka Timo are being overly negative about it |
| 15:49.13 | [Ammo] | and blaming BigWigs or oRA2 for no reason at all |
| 15:49.16 | Galencia | well its a bit of a silly issue which shouldnt really happen |
| 15:49.28 | Galencia | its definately not the addons fault, nor the libraries fault |
| 15:49.36 | Mi|es | huh? what is it this time? :P |
| 15:49.40 | Galencia | its more the interaction |
| 15:49.44 | pb_ee1 | It's the externals fault ;p |
| 15:49.51 | usz | externals are fine |
| 15:49.54 | [Ammo] | it's the fact that zip's get generated at a time when a lib has a fatal flaw |
| 15:50.07 | pb_ee1 | Aha |
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| 15:50.16 | [Ammo] | if you use a SVN client you will never ever have this problem apart from when the lib is actually flawed th emoment you update |
| 15:50.40 | pb_ee1 | Sure, but you shouldn't update your mods with externals, should you? |
| 15:50.53 | Galencia | according to the svn rules, no you shouldnt. :) |
| 15:50.54 | usz | idd, just pulled FuBar from SVN instead through WAU and all is fine |
| 15:50.55 | [Ammo] | if you do it without externals you should download the standalone libs |
| 15:51.02 | [Ammo] | in which case you will get the correctly updated ones |
| 15:51.06 | [Ammo] | and you will not have this issue |
| 15:51.18 | [Ammo] | it only occurs when you use the .zip's or WAU (which uses those zips) |
| 15:51.29 | pb_ee1 | sure [Ammo], but on the SVN Rules it is said that we shouldn't use externals while updating anyway, am I wrong? |
| 15:51.39 | [Ammo] | you're not wrong |
| 15:51.42 | [Ammo] | [17:50] < [Ammo]> if you do it without externals you should download the standalone libs |
| 15:51.45 | [Ammo] | read that again |
| 15:51.53 | pb_ee1 | sure ;) |
| 15:51.57 | [Ammo] | and comprehend :) |
| 15:52.29 | pb_ee1 | What I'm doing right now is using WAU and downloading without externals, + libs that in standalone |
| 15:52.31 | Galencia | i think my problem was that i tried to do a weird mix is standalone and not very standalone |
| 15:52.34 | Galencia | and it didnt work too good |
| 15:52.38 | [Ammo] | pb_ee1: that should work |
| 15:52.42 | Galencia | s/is/of/ |
| 15:52.44 | pb_ee1 | I hope so ;p |
| 15:52.47 | [Ammo] | and you should get the updated libs |
| 15:52.50 | [Ammo] | and all should be well |
| 15:52.54 | Galencia | indeedy. |
| 15:52.55 | pb_ee1 | Well finally it IS working ;) |
| 15:53.34 | Galencia | it wouldnt be so bad if mod authors tested their mods with the zips once in a while |
| 15:53.51 | [Ammo] | I test when I release |
| 15:53.54 | Galencia | since some time they will want those zips to become "official" |
| 15:54.04 | [Ammo] | since that's the only good time to test |
| 15:54.11 | pb_ee1 | ho now i understand |
| 15:54.14 | DrDre | this g15 keyboard may just save me from carpal tunnel! |
| 15:54.24 | DrDre | can macro this baby to spam buttons for me! |
| 15:54.28 | Galencia | [Ammo]: well, there's "test" and "make sure it loads" :) |
| 15:54.37 | pb_ee1 | the zips are generated when you update your mod, but it won't be updated if one of its externals is updated, I'm right? |
| 15:54.44 | CIA-17 | 03phyber * r15181 10Fizzle/Core.lua: |
| 15:54.44 | CIA-17 | Fizzle: |
| 15:54.45 | CIA-17 | - Cleaned up the slot tables, should save some memory. |
| 15:54.45 | CIA-17 | - Now using 'local _G = getfenv(0)' instead of getglobal. Looks much nicer. |
| 15:54.45 | CIA-17 | - Removed one or two unnecessary locals. |
| 15:54.45 | CIA-17 | - This space for rent. Call 1-800-SVN-ZOMG. |
| 15:54.45 | Galencia | pb_ee1: exactly |
| 15:54.58 | pb_ee1 | Ok now I understand the whole thing ;p Thanks a lot :) |
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| 15:55.31 | Galencia | i understand it a lot more too, and am coming closer to writing the documentation for it :p |
| 15:55.37 | Galencia | just need to find 5 minutes spare now.. |
| 15:55.56 | pb_ee1 | that is the most difficult ;p |
| 15:57.36 | snurre | is it possible to change the texture of the hp/mana bars in the standard tooltip? |
| 15:58.48 | sylvanaar | i suggested a possible way to fix things without changing the existing zip system / did they seem workable? |
| 15:59.14 | omega__ | Fudge: ahh, yeah, I would suspect it does |
| 15:59.16 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15182 10oRA2/Optional/PlayerTarget.lua: oRA2: no more double playertargets |
| 15:59.34 | omega__ | if I want to "fix" it, I would have to scrape the index html for the folder |
| 15:59.50 | omega__ | whats this PlayerTarget stuff= |
| 16:00.06 | [Ammo] | it's basically MT frames |
| 16:00.10 | omega__ | ok? |
| 16:00.10 | [Ammo] | but only for you personally |
| 16:00.14 | omega__ | aha |
| 16:00.17 | haste | ah, my coding spot is so EVIL |
| 16:00.19 | [Ammo] | so you can set 10 different player targets |
| 16:00.22 | haste | I love it |
| 16:00.26 | [Ammo] | and they're your personal targets |
| 16:00.30 | omega__ | [Ammo]: right, cool |
| 16:00.41 | haste | http://beverpung.net/images/games/wow/giefRune.png << best spot you can use for a rogue while coding under the halloween |
| 16:01.33 | omega__ | haste: what do you use for the black area down bottom? |
| 16:01.43 | haste | omega__: You can use oSkin |
| 16:01.44 | Gtyrte | What it the addon that make the bløack box on the bottom of the screen there? |
| 16:01.52 | omega__ | ihi |
| 16:02.23 | [Ammo] | hey haste |
| 16:02.25 | [Ammo] | give me your gold |
| 16:02.33 | haste | :-P |
| 16:02.42 | [Ammo] | too bad autotrading won'twork anymore in TBC |
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| 16:02.53 | [Ammo] | otherwise I could add "eastereggs" in my addons |
| 16:02.54 | Galencia | is there any way to get those viewports without skinning windows? |
| 16:03.05 | [Ammo] | and then type: /whisper otravi give me your gold! |
| 16:03.09 | [Ammo] | and autotrade it to me :p |
| 16:03.34 | [Ammo] | Galencia: CT_ViewPort if you don't want oSkin |
| 16:03.42 | haste | [Ammo]: /split 10000 |
| 16:03.51 | [Ammo] | haste but that requires a party |
| 16:04.04 | [Ammo] | or just split in a loop |
| 16:04.07 | [Ammo] | till it's not worth splitting :) |
| 16:04.15 | Galencia | [Ammo]: ct_viewport is poo :( |
| 16:04.20 | [Ammo] | why? |
| 16:04.22 | [Ammo] | it works fine |
| 16:04.24 | Galencia | it actually changes the size of the screen |
| 16:04.33 | [Ammo] | all viewports do |
| 16:04.35 | Galencia | oskin gives you black transparanet bars |
| 16:04.38 | Galencia | there's a difference |
| 16:04.40 | [Ammo] | no |
| 16:04.43 | Galencia | yes |
| 16:04.47 | Galencia | i can see behind mine at least |
| 16:04.47 | [Ammo] | oskin flattens the screen too |
| 16:04.57 | [Ammo] | I sure bloody hope it does |
| 16:05.05 | [Ammo] | and it seemed like it does |
| 16:05.10 | Galencia | if it doesnt i cant notice, which is a good thing |
| 16:05.13 | Galencia | er |
| 16:05.18 | Galencia | s/doesnt/does/ |
| 16:05.37 | [DiE]Celeb | theres a difference between using the viewport part and simply adding a "bar" |
| 16:05.38 | Galencia | i can definately see screen behind the bottom of my bottom "black box" |
| 16:05.48 | [Ammo] | well |
| 16:05.53 | fhein | hi all.. is it possible to get bartender2 to grey out action icons when they're out of range? |
| 16:05.56 | [Ammo] | did you use: /oskin viewport |
| 16:06.01 | Galencia | i have no idea |
| 16:06.02 | [Ammo] | or did you add a black bar |
| 16:06.04 | Galencia | someone else set it up for me :) |
| 16:06.06 | [Ammo] | fhein: download redrange |
| 16:06.11 | fhein | ty |
| 16:06.13 | Galencia | all i know is it's oskin that does the black bar |
| 16:06.26 | [Ammo] | fhein: it'll make them dark red when out of range, and dark blue when out of mana/energy etc |
| 16:06.30 | snurre | where's thrae nowadays? |
| 16:06.31 | [DiE]Celeb | sounds like /oskin bottombar or whatever |
| 16:06.36 | [Ammo] | fhein: it's a tiny addon by Iriel |
| 16:06.44 | [Ammo] | celeb: indeed |
| 16:06.44 | Galencia | [DiE]Celeb: could well be. |
| 16:06.56 | Galencia | i have a top one too |
| 16:07.03 | DrDre | Galencia: what exactly are you suppose to see behind the viewport area... nothing should be there BUT black O.o |
| 16:07.12 | DrDre | and Viewport DOES make a black bar, im 100% sure of that |
| 16:07.12 | [Ammo] | I suggest using /oskin viewport combined with the bottombar etc |
| 16:07.19 | [Ammo] | yeah it does |
| 16:07.21 | haste | I would also |
| 16:07.23 | [Ammo] | because I don't texture the bottombpart |
| 16:07.23 | Galencia | DrDre: its not the fact there is something there.. i specifcally DONT want a viewport |
| 16:07.35 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 16:07.35 | haste | bor a auto-viewport the bottomframe |
| 16:07.38 | fhein | [Ammo] is it available from ace downloader? I'm only finding rangerecolor, which seems to be something similar |
| 16:07.39 | Galencia | i dont like the screen being squashed |
| 16:07.39 | DrDre | then why are you needing viewport? lol |
| 16:07.42 | haste | s/b// |
| 16:07.43 | Galencia | i just want the black bar |
| 16:07.49 | [Ammo] | fhein: it's on wowinterface |
| 16:07.50 | haste | option* |
| 16:07.52 | fhein | ok |
| 16:07.54 | [Ammo] | but yeah rangerecolor is something similar |
| 16:08.00 | Galencia | i dont care is part o fmy screen is being obstructed |
| 16:08.02 | [Ammo] | and might be more configurable |
| 16:08.03 | Galencia | s/is/if/ |
| 16:08.22 | [Ammo] | Galencia: then you can't use oSkin for it :) |
| 16:08.28 | Galencia | [Ammo]: i already do ;) |
| 16:08.39 | [Ammo] | not if you don't want the 'glossy top' |
| 16:08.42 | [Ammo] | but just a black bar |
| 16:08.43 | Galencia | right |
| 16:08.48 | Galencia | thats all i wanted to know |
| 16:09.01 | Galencia | a simple "no" would have sufficed :D |
| 16:09.02 | [Ammo] | if you just want a black bar you'll be stuck with using the viewport |
| 16:09.03 | snurre | im using oskin without a gradient on my viewport area |
| 16:09.05 | [Ammo] | and go in widescreen |
| 16:09.13 | [Ammo] | snurre: galencia doesn't use the viewport |
| 16:09.17 | DrDre | I honestly notice no difference of 'squished' with viewport, http://fanetworks.net/addons/wowui.png |
| 16:09.17 | [Ammo] | just uses the bottombar |
| 16:09.18 | Galencia | i would rather have reskinned windows than widescreen. :) |
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| 16:09.38 | Galencia | DrDre: im very very very sensitive to that sort of thing |
| 16:09.48 | Galencia | drives me nuts |
| 16:09.57 | Galencia | especially when i play on my laptop |
| 16:10.04 | snurre | you only notice it when comparing, not when actually playing |
| 16:10.11 | Galencia | oh i notice, believe me |
| 16:10.16 | Galencia | i could probably get used to it.. |
| 16:10.18 | Galencia | but id rather not |
| 16:10.19 | snurre | "ok" |
| 16:10.41 | DrDre | so u jus want the bars to cover part of screen? oSkin does that just fine w/o viewport |
| 16:10.44 | fhein | second question :P is it possible to get agUF to grey out mobs unitframe when someone else will get the kill, like default wow? |
| 16:10.49 | DrDre | so what exactly was you asking for lol |
| 16:11.04 | Galencia | DrDre: yes, thats exactly what i want, and exactly what i have.. you obviously missed the original question. |
| 16:11.07 | DrDre | It should do that fhein: |
| 16:11.15 | pastamancer | fhein: it does that already |
| 16:11.24 | Galencia | it does, and even says "tapped", in the status |
| 16:11.25 | DrDre | I think i did >_> I just went on from what i saw you say when i came to window |
| 16:11.53 | Galencia | DrDre: what i want, is that, without the "skin" part of Oskin :) |
| 16:12.14 | Galencia | but i cant have it, which i can live with. :) |
| 16:12.46 | DrDre | so basically just black bars lol? Could use DART i guess O.o |
| 16:12.47 | fhein | drdre / pastamancer: hmm, I'm pretty sure it didn't work for me, but I'll have to double check it when I get home |
| 16:13.10 | Galencia | DrDre: nah, i'll live with it |
| 16:13.39 | Galencia | if all else fails i'll just stop using oskin completely and have no black bars! |
| 16:13.47 | Galencia | but i happen to like my black bars |
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| 16:15.06 | DrDre | you COULD turn off each of the skins in oskin lol |
| 16:15.19 | snurre | http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/413/snurreuiis1.jpg <- even with that much viewport, you won't notice any "squished" feeling when playing |
| 16:15.20 | Galencia | suppose i could |
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| 16:15.40 | omega__ | I get like a 100 errors a minute using oSkin atm :p |
| 16:15.51 | snurre | speaking of which.. wtb texture options for tinytip |
| 16:15.52 | DrDre | update it? lol |
| 16:15.53 | DrDre | mine works |
| 16:15.56 | omega__ | just did, lol |
| 16:16.13 | omega__ | never had it before I just installed latest svn snapshot |
| 16:16.18 | DrDre | well actually i havnt tried since i ran WAU last night |
| 16:16.27 | Galencia | snurre: add a top bar and the effects suddenly become quite dramatic |
| 16:16.38 | omega__ | It seems to be a conflict with RangeRecolor |
| 16:16.40 | omega__ | do you use that? |
| 16:16.41 | snurre | there is a top bar |
| 16:17.06 | Galencia | oh and how did you change the texture of ebb? |
| 16:17.11 | Galencia | manual texture file change? |
| 16:17.41 | snurre | yeah |
| 16:17.45 | snurre | changed all my textures |
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| 16:20.57 | pb_ee1 | When using a standalone library, does it load everything inside or just the modules that are used? (I suppose it depends on the Library code?) |
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| 16:22.29 | sbu | mhhh Mikma |
| 16:22.32 | sbu | you there? |
| 16:22.48 | Mikma | sbu: no, refridgerator here, I have cheese in me. |
| 16:22.56 | sbu | nice |
| 16:23.01 | sbu | i dont like cheese :/ |
| 16:23.12 | Mikma | suits nicely with whine tho |
| 16:23.41 | nevcairiel | and crackers. |
| 16:23.53 | Mikma | that! |
| 16:23.57 | sbu | mh, how many buttons are used by blizzard default ui? (w/ all bars enabled) - so how many buttons does bartender take care of? |
| 16:23.57 | Mikma | tuc + cheese |
| 16:24.10 | sbu | mhh tuc |
| 16:24.11 | Mikma | sbu: liek, alot |
| 16:24.18 | Galencia | 12x5? |
| 16:24.33 | omega__ | + stances? |
| 16:24.41 | sbu | no stances for me :p priest |
| 16:24.42 | omega__ | pet, etc |
| 16:24.57 | sbu | ok - main problem is that i dont have enough free buttons *sigh* |
| 16:25.13 | sbu | and i dont know how do it better |
| 16:25.25 | Galencia | i have 4 bars of 12 and manage quite fune |
| 16:25.25 | Galencia | fine* |
| 16:25.31 | Galencia | omega__: thats including a stance bar |
| 16:25.31 | sbu | class? |
| 16:25.40 | Galencia | both my mage and priest get by with that |
| 16:25.48 | sbu | phew... |
| 16:25.57 | Galencia | but i take advantage of click casting a lot on my priest |
| 16:25.59 | snurre | anyone familiar with tinytip btw? i managed to change the texture of the manabar in TinyTipExtras, but I dunno how to do it for healthbar |
| 16:26.32 | sbu | Galencia: mh see, i dont.. ;) |
| 16:26.49 | Mikma | sbu: i use like.. 24 buttons at max |
| 16:26.50 | sbu | http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot101006215152bi6.jpg <-- *sigh* need more buttons i gues... |
| 16:27.34 | Mikma | sbu: Bongos / DAB |
| 16:27.38 | haste | Mikma: http://beverpung.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_102506_181613.png << I love this coding spot :D |
| 16:27.50 | Galencia | sbu: well, i can see a few issues there already |
| 16:27.52 | Mikma | haste: yeah :D |
| 16:28.08 | sbu | Galencia: yep? tell me :) |
| 16:28.25 | Galencia | you have 3 flash heal buttons.. you have your mount on a button(and on autobar), you have items on your buttons(get a wardrode type mod?) |
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| 16:28.38 | Galencia | you have 2 "heal" buttons |
| 16:28.42 | sbu | yep |
| 16:28.47 | sbu | different ranks |
| 16:28.51 | steino | i have no healing spells binded |
| 16:28.54 | steino | nor buffing spells |
| 16:28.55 | Mikma | haste: clarify soemthing. people try to click the hoe. they hit you. what happens? guards attack them? |
| 16:28.56 | Galencia | you have your aq mount on your buttons |
| 16:28.56 | steino | ^^ |
| 16:29.03 | Galencia | again covered by autobar |
| 16:29.06 | sbu | Health: 2 & 4, flash heal: max, -1, -2 |
| 16:29.17 | sbu | ok, you're right about mount |
| 16:29.36 | sbu | and items - yep - no more staff swapping since i got aq40 staff |
| 16:29.40 | sbu | thats... *calc* |
| 16:29.42 | haste | Mikma: the guards attackn them, and they pretty much instantly kills them |
| 16:29.49 | haste | Mikma: look at the combat log how fast they die |
| 16:30.04 | Galencia | you have something in the top left |
| 16:30.09 | Galencia | and a ubrs-ring button too |
| 16:30.12 | sbu | ~6 free |
| 16:30.27 | sbu | top left is zg trinket |
| 16:30.31 | Galencia | you can lose the detox button |
| 16:30.36 | Mikma | haste: 3 seconds |
| 16:30.36 | Galencia | bind it in the keybinds |
| 16:30.50 | sbu | hmmmm, thx :o |
| 16:30.59 | Galencia | you could in theory get a mod to handle your trinkets |
| 16:31.02 | haste | Mikma: two to kill the paladin |
| 16:31.05 | Galencia | that would free up another 3 buttons |
| 16:31.12 | sbu | guess i'm too blind for such things staring at those buttons every day ;) |
| 16:31.17 | haste | Mikma: I made a member of an alliance guild stand there with em also now :p |
| 16:31.18 | sbu | needed some 'external' help ;p |
| 16:31.20 | Galencia | you could move dark runes to autobar |
| 16:31.35 | Galencia | anyway hope that helps, im off home :) |
| 16:31.44 | Mikma | haste: bah, he's a copycat :( |
| 16:32.11 | sbu | yep, along w/ bwl hourglass sand |
| 16:32.18 | sbu | *counting again* |
| 16:33.29 | Mi|es | bleh |
| 16:34.06 | Mi|es | there are 22207 variables in the global scope. no wonder my dump _G recursively and check isvariablesecure crashed wow with "Onvoldoende opslagruimte beschikbaar om deze opdracht te verwerken" ^^ |
| 16:34.28 | sbu | uhm - it crashed with WHAT? :p |
| 16:34.41 | krka | did you check for loops? |
| 16:34.44 | Mi|es | not enough space to execute this order |
| 16:34.51 | haste | Mikma: 8 people down so far :p |
| 16:34.54 | krka | sounds like a stack exception |
| 16:34.54 | Mi|es | hmm.. good question... |
| 16:35.04 | krka | _G._G = _G for instance |
| 16:35.11 | krka | not sure wow provides that variable though |
| 16:35.33 | haste | Mikma: make that nine |
| 16:36.04 | Mi|es | gotta do a sweep with tables as key |
| 16:36.19 | haste | Mikma: ten now, same person did it twice |
| 16:36.48 | Fudge | Man I just got ganked by the AD guards.. tried to kill some flagged, unstealthed rogue in the chapel. :/ |
| 16:37.18 | Kebinusan | Keep getting [2006/10/25 12:10:51-986]: SimpleCombatLog\core.lua:343: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value) today if anyone has time to take a peek |
| 16:38.03 | nevcairiel | i get that as well, must be the parserlib update |
| 16:38.09 | [Ammo] | in 1.12? |
| 16:38.11 | [Ammo] | or 2.0? |
| 16:38.43 | nevcairiel | 1.12 |
| 16:38.50 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 16:38.53 | [Ammo] | time for some quick bugfixing |
| 16:39.25 | [Ammo] | checking it out |
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| 16:39.28 | [Ammo] | hold on |
| 16:39.31 | usz | krka, no need for wow to privde it as you can declare it by yourself: local _G = getfenv(0) |
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| 16:43.16 | Slayman | eyonix mentioned there will be another content patch prior to 2.0 |
| 16:43.30 | Fudge | Slayman, then tseric said there won't be. ;P |
| 16:43.57 | Slayman | if both were sexy girls i would propose a mudfight :D |
| 16:44.03 | Fudge | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38703926&sid=1&pageNo=6#111 |
| 16:44.05 | Fudge | Agreed. |
| 16:44.40 | Slayman | ooooh tomorrow Anno 1701 is going to get released, I'm a little shaking :D |
| 16:45.50 | Slayman | so if tseric is right, then there is absolutely NO reason to play any raid till BC :( |
| 16:46.15 | nevcairiel | what tseric said, that there will be a 2.0 patch _before_ the beta, probably even in december |
| 16:46.36 | [DiE]Celeb | client only tho :p |
| 16:46.49 | Slayman | yeah but 2.0 will be some sort of AddOn'esque changes |
| 16:48.42 | Slayman | it will be the new lua, possibly even the theoretical existance of the new crafting stuff, and all other things that don't include new levels |
| 16:48.42 | Slayman | like updating the crit/hit stuff and so on |
| 16:49.06 | [Ammo] | Kebinusan and Nevcariel: I just committed some fixes, it should work, could you test? |
| 16:49.09 | [Ammo] | to parserlib that is |
| 16:49.14 | Kebinusan | sure |
| 16:49.21 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15183 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib: bugfixes ipairs vs pairs |
| 16:49.23 | eternally777 | So basically we can expect WoW to be somewhat buggy between the upcoming pre-2.0 patch and TBC release |
| 16:49.51 | Kirkburn | WoW itself shouldn't be buggy |
| 16:50.02 | eternally777 | "shouldn't" being the key word |
| 16:50.02 | Slayman | well it will be |
| 16:50.16 | Slayman | as windows shouldn't be unsafe |
| 16:50.21 | Slayman | same things here and there |
| 16:50.27 | Kirkburn | You know what I mean |
| 16:50.28 | Kirkburn | ] |
| 16:50.35 | Slayman | i know |
| 16:50.37 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 16:50.58 | DrDre | I just hope it doesnt break everyone of my addons :( |
| 16:51.01 | DrDre | i have around 160 ;/ |
| 16:51.02 | Kirkburn | Some addons will be buggy, but it shouldn't take long for those that are fixable to be back to normal |
| 16:51.12 | [Ammo] | Kebinusan: still errors? |
| 16:51.24 | Kirkburn | Those that aren't fixable (i.e. decursive, etc), you will just have to remove |
| 16:51.35 | DrDre | thankfully least 1/3 of them are Ace addons lol |
| 16:51.38 | Slayman | but if they do some sort of prepatch it might be better to do it that way as they may save some time in debugging that prepatch |
| 16:51.39 | Galencia | Slayman: new talents too :) |
| 16:52.02 | DrDre | question: is everyones talents restored: on the talent update so we may respec? |
| 16:52.07 | Slayman | Galencia: i don't think u'll be able to specc until 2.0 is final |
| 16:52.11 | DrDre | Cause i might go straight for surprise attacks |
| 16:52.21 | Galencia | Slayman: sure you will.. just you'll only have 51 talent points |
| 16:52.26 | FISKER_Q | surprise attacks is stupid :( |
| 16:52.33 | DrDre | the old version yes |
| 16:52.36 | DrDre | new one is really good |
| 16:52.40 | Slayman | DrDre: on 2.0 u have 0 points spent |
| 16:52.42 | DrDre | 8% damage increase |
| 16:52.48 | FISKER_Q | oh yeah sure |
| 16:52.48 | DrDre | cool thats what i was asking :D |
| 16:52.53 | DrDre | and im sword spec |
| 16:52.56 | FISKER_Q | but still stupid that "the enemy can't dodge you" |
| 16:53.03 | DrDre | surprise talents helps swords more than daggers i agree |
| 16:53.12 | DrDre | surprise attacks* |
| 16:53.19 | FISKER_Q | nah not really |
| 16:53.32 | FISKER_Q | Mobs or players are not supposed to be able to dodge from behind |
| 16:53.51 | Slayman | i really don't think that the prepatch will enable you to specc the talents, once ur client hits the real 2.0 u sure can do |
| 16:53.57 | DrDre | i know, but stil lhelps aton when soloing and cant always be behind or even care if your behind |
| 16:54.09 | FISKER_Q | why not Slayman? |
| 16:54.18 | Slayman | cuz, it's part of 2.0 |
| 16:54.26 | Slayman | the prepatch is a prepatch! |
| 16:54.27 | Galencia | Slayman: it IS the real 2.0 |
| 16:54.37 | Galencia | Slayman: its just what you will get if you dont buy TBC |
| 16:54.39 | omega__ | slouken said it would have the new talents |
| 16:54.42 | Galencia | and those people wILL get the new talents |
| 16:54.47 | FISKER_Q | ^^ |
| 16:54.49 | Srosh | they'll patch to 2.0 and they already said that the new talents will be accessible by those not having TBC |
| 16:54.49 | [Ammo] | Kebinusan: hello? :) |
| 16:54.53 | Galencia | eyonix said it also |
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| 16:55.13 | Galencia | you just will have 10 talent points less than anyone at level 70.. |
| 16:55.21 | Funkeh` | hey all :) |
| 16:55.51 | Slayman | hi |
| 16:55.58 | Galencia | time will tell |
| 16:55.59 | eternally777 | Galencia: Have they clearly stated that the prepatch will be a content patch? I think it's just to make underlying changes that will allow for the expansion to not cause too much chaos. I think if there will be a new content patch for those without TBC, it will come on the TBC release date. |
| 16:56.05 | Kirkburn | Yes |
| 16:56.12 | Galencia | eternally777: yes, it's 2.0. |
| 16:56.15 | Galencia | there is no 1.13. |
| 16:56.15 | nevcairiel | eternally777: they have |
| 16:56.18 | eternally777 | kk |
| 16:56.19 | FISKER_Q | It's always been referred as a content patch |
| 16:56.21 | Kirkburn | =) |
| 16:56.31 | [DiE]Celeb | everything but content afaik |
| 16:56.37 | Slayman | eternally777: THAT'S exactly what i tried to tell |
| 16:56.40 | Kirkburn | It will have everything that's not TBC specific, or as much as they've got finished |
| 16:56.45 | FISKER_Q | ^^ |
| 16:56.49 | Galencia | its exactly what you would get if you didnt buy the expansion |
| 16:56.50 | nevcairiel | it will patch UI changed, talent changes, honor changes, basicly everything except 70 and outlands |
| 16:56.52 | Srosh | the thing is, they don't want a situation in that people that bought TBC can directly jump into game and benefit from all new things while all others are caught in the patch loop :p |
| 16:56.53 | Galencia | nothing more nothing less |
| 16:57.00 | nevcairiel | and be/drainei .. and jewelcrafting ^^ |
| 16:57.29 | Kirkburn | A big benefit of this is that everyone will be settled with the changes before the new stuff arrives |
| 16:57.30 | eternally777 | Can I see a link? |
| 16:57.38 | Galencia | blue.cardplace.com |
| 16:57.38 | FISKER_Q | yeah |
| 16:57.42 | Galencia | knock yourself out |
| 16:57.56 | FISKER_Q | most mods should be updated in the 2-4 weeks it'll take them to put out TBC |
| 16:58.17 | Kirkburn | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/38703926.htm |
| 16:58.27 | Kirkburn | "The content patch is not 1.13. There will not be a 1.13, as the EU CM stated" |
| 16:58.31 | FISKER_Q | reminds me |
| 16:58.38 | FISKER_Q | think i have to put out email nr. 131335272531527851 |
| 16:58.41 | Kirkburn | "However, there will be a content patch before the expansion. It will simply not be called 1.13, which would be a continutation of content patches for WoW, pre-expansion. The content patch will be for the expansion, which will likely be dubbed 2.0." |
| 16:58.43 | Srosh | I'm pretty sure they already wanted to do that prior to release but only like one week, now they'll do it a month or so in advance |
| 16:58.46 | FISKER_Q | want my account unbanned soon :U |
| 16:58.59 | [Ammo] | hahaha you got banned? |
| 16:59.06 | Kirkburn | *Quizzical look* |
| 16:59.08 | [Ammo] | servers you right for using caps in your IRC nick |
| 16:59.16 | Srosh | hehe |
| 16:59.25 | FISKER_Q | :/ |
| 16:59.43 | Fisker | I got banned like 3 or 4 months ago for posting an ascii owl |
| 16:59.54 | Fisker | Then like 2 months ago they said they would unban me |
| 16:59.59 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 17:00.10 | Fisker | it pisses me so much off each time i see Ommra post |
| 17:00.18 | [Ammo] | if you sign your emails with FISKER_Q I would not be suprised :) |
| 17:00.23 | Fisker | "Well helo thar permanent ban" |
| 17:00.34 | Fisker | or not since you're a CM and apparently doesn't have to abide by the rules :/ |
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| 17:00.46 | Funkeh` | simplecombatlog\core.lua:343: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value) on logon, anyone else? |
| 17:00.55 | Fisker | Nah i never sign my emails with my nick :P |
| 17:01.07 | Fisker | Sometimes i might write "Fisker of Ravencrest-EU" |
| 17:01.09 | Fisker | but that's about it |
| 17:01.17 | Fisker | Always use my real name |
| 17:01.22 | Galencia | bah "uninstalled marked addon" doesnt work in WUA |
| 17:01.24 | Fisker | +i |
| 17:02.29 | Funkeh` | arg, turned off parserlib and it works |
| 17:02.51 | Fisker | gonna hate fileplanet for the rest of the day |
| 17:02.56 | [Ammo] | must be conflicting addon stuff |
| 17:03.05 | [Ammo] | update all your parserlib using addons |
| 17:03.05 | Fisker | for some reason i'm not allowed to download the supreme commander beta even though i'm a Founder's Club |
| 17:03.05 | Fisker | :/ |
| 17:04.24 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: i use standalone parserlib, as well as libs, jsut copy it to scl libs folder? |
| 17:05.18 | [Ammo] | what I mean is |
| 17:05.30 | [Ammo] | make sure all parserlib using addons are up-to-date |
| 17:05.34 | [Ammo] | aka all libs should be up-to-date |
| 17:05.36 | [Ammo] | it works fine here |
| 17:06.19 | [Ammo] | I just spanked the shit out of a few level 5 mobs |
| 17:06.55 | Funkeh` | ok, basically i just need to wait untill the author touches it? meanwhile i can do it myself? |
| 17:07.16 | [Ammo] | just svn up all your addons |
| 17:07.19 | nevcairiel | ammo i get the error as well, and i have only one copy of parserlib running |
| 17:07.30 | [Ammo] | well why does it work for me then? |
| 17:07.36 | nevcairiel | oh wait, nvm, was old bugsack window |
| 17:07.36 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:07.51 | [Ammo] | grrrr |
| 17:07.53 | [Ammo] | really... |
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| 17:07.58 | Kebinusan | hmm yeah still getting it ammo |
| 17:08.03 | [Ammo] | wtf |
| 17:08.05 | [Ammo] | I don't |
| 17:08.13 | [Ammo] | I have SCL, WitchHunt running |
| 17:08.15 | [Ammo] | most recent |
| 17:08.17 | [Ammo] | fresh of SVN |
| 17:08.25 | Kebinusan | SCL, WitchHunt, Chronometer, fresh from the svn |
| 17:08.26 | [Ammo] | and it works fine |
| 17:08.40 | [Ammo] | you sure it's not an old bugsack window? |
| 17:08.49 | [Ammo] | (I don't use bugsack because it bugsucks) |
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| 17:09.09 | [Ammo] | I'm killing mobs left and right atm |
| 17:09.13 | [Ammo] | and it doesn't error for me |
| 17:09.24 | Funkeh` | i copied the parserlib folder to scl folder and it works, i suppose just wait untill the externals are updated in the zip |
| 17:09.24 | [Ammo] | WitchHunt reports boars charging at me et all |
| 17:09.34 | [Ammo] | ok so it's an upgrading issue? |
| 17:10.56 | Mi|es | argh ffs |
| 17:11.06 | Mi|es | "your pet has run away" after the 800th reloadui :P |
| 17:12.59 | Slayman | from now on you'll be dismissing it prior to reload 800 times |
| 17:13.02 | Slayman | take it as a lesson of life |
| 17:13.22 | Mi|es | it's just a level 8 test pet :p |
| 17:14.07 | Slayman | lucky for you, next time it's a lvl 60 Broken tooth or white lion or somesuch |
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| 17:15.26 | Galencia | hmm |
| 17:15.37 | Galencia | fubar-compat-1.2 is complaining about lack of gratuitylib |
| 17:16.03 | Galencia | with standalone libraries |
| 17:16.45 | Galencia | "attempt to index global gratuity - a nil value" |
| 17:16.49 | evl | I don't dare update my addons |
| 17:16.54 | evl | I was stuck in lib-hell after last time |
| 17:16.55 | [Ammo] | pff |
| 17:17.02 | evl | took me like an hour to get it playable agani |
| 17:17.04 | Galencia | anyone got any ideas on that one? |
| 17:17.12 | [Ammo] | Galencia: optdeps not correct |
| 17:17.18 | [Ammo] | or x-embed whatevers |
| 17:17.25 | Galencia | in fubar-compat? |
| 17:17.30 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 17:17.33 | [Ammo] | but I don't use fubar-compat |
| 17:17.35 | Galencia | whos responsible for that? |
| 17:17.41 | Galencia | so i can smack them upside the head |
| 17:17.43 | [Ammo] | because I don't have fubar 1.2 stuff anymore |
| 17:17.50 | Galencia | im not even sure i do |
| 17:18.01 | Galencia | oh wait, the reagent thing |
| 17:19.23 | Galencia | ok disabling that didnt break anything i care about |
| 17:19.29 | Galencia | but itembonuses is broke |
| 17:20.49 | Galencia | simplecombatlog has the same issue |
| 17:20.49 | Galencia | meh |
| 17:21.46 | Galencia | i shall aquire more information |
| 17:22.26 | Galencia | core.lua:343 Attempt to index field '?' a nil value |
| 17:22.54 | Mikma | haste: good counter ;) |
| 17:22.56 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15184 10TooltipExchange/ (Modules/Communication.lua TooltipExchange.toc): |
| 17:22.56 | CIA-17 | TooltipExchange |
| 17:22.56 | CIA-17 | - some cleanup in .toc file |
| 17:22.56 | CIA-17 | - fixed but in communication module with nil tooltips |
| 17:23.01 | Galencia | local fields = defaultFormats[msgType][2] |
| 17:23.05 | Galencia | thats 343 o_O |
| 17:23.32 | Galencia | [Ammo]: is this that parserlib issue? |
| 17:23.48 | [Ammo] | Galencia: I don't have the issue |
| 17:24.07 | Galencia | thats irrelevant to the question :) |
| 17:24.07 | [Ammo] | I just did svn up on every parserlib using addon I could think off |
| 17:24.09 | [Ammo] | ad it works |
| 17:24.21 | [Ammo] | but yeah it's a parserlib issue |
| 17:24.25 | [Ammo] | if you have an old parserlib |
| 17:24.28 | Galencia | do you use simplecombatlog? |
| 17:24.28 | [Ammo] | it'll barf |
| 17:24.32 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 17:24.34 | [Ammo] | it works fine |
| 17:24.35 | [Ammo] | from the svn |
| 17:24.36 | [Ammo] | just fresh |
| 17:24.45 | Galencia | whats the "right" revision of parserlib? |
| 17:24.55 | Galencia | 15183 is what i have |
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| 17:25.34 | [Ammo] | the latest |
| 17:25.38 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 17:25.44 | Mikma | hmmmkay |
| 17:25.47 | Mikma | skipped 2 ranks :) |
| 17:25.51 | Mikma | rank3 -> rank5 |
| 17:25.56 | Galencia | 18:22 < CIA-17> usz * r15184 TooltipExchange/ (Modules/Communication.lua |
| 17:25.59 | Galencia | given that, i would assume i have the latest.. |
| 17:26.02 | Galencia | so its not that.. |
| 17:26.15 | [Ammo] | one of your addons has an older one |
| 17:26.19 | Galencia | nope |
| 17:26.22 | [Ammo] | because if I use it it wrks |
| 17:26.25 | Galencia | just checked |
| 17:26.34 | Galencia | the only reference to parserlib is my standalone one |
| 17:26.50 | [Ammo] | then the standalone doesn't work anymore?! |
| 17:26.50 | [Ammo] | wtf |
| 17:27.03 | evl | I had maaajor standalone problems yesterday |
| 17:27.11 | evl | Addons discaring their settings etc. |
| 17:27.49 | [Ammo] | but ok |
| 17:27.54 | [Ammo] | I'll do a standalone parserlib |
| 17:27.58 | [Ammo] | and test |
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| 17:28.06 | Galencia | good ammo *cookie* |
| 17:29.22 | Fisker | Gonna go to sleep while i wait for a response from blizzard |
| 17:29.28 | Fisker | talk to you in a couple of weeks |
| 17:29.44 | [Ammo] | don't cookie me |
| 17:30.04 | Fisker | ok ammo *assrape* |
| 17:30.50 | [Ammo] | anyway |
| 17:30.55 | [Ammo] | parserlib standalone works |
| 17:30.58 | [Ammo] | now SHO |
| 17:30.59 | [Ammo] | SHOO |
| 17:31.32 | evl | I'll try standalone after this raid |
| 17:34.19 | Funkeh` | nop, i had to disable parserlib standalone(newest) :P using old libs in current parserlib enabled addons |
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| 17:34.48 | Galencia | [Ammo]: its not parserlib |
| 17:34.50 | Galencia | its aceevent |
| 17:35.13 | Galencia | no wait, its both :) |
| 17:35.33 | Galencia | http://ace.pastey.net/1795 |
| 17:35.54 | Galencia | and |
| 17:35.55 | Galencia | http://ace.pastey.net/1796 |
| 17:36.15 | [Ammo] | Funkeh`: then it's an upgrade issue |
| 17:36.23 | [Ammo] | I have only the most recent parserlib |
| 17:36.29 | [Ammo] | and it works just ifne and dandy |
| 17:36.40 | Galencia | Revision: $Revision: 15183 $ |
| 17:36.42 | Galencia | thats what i have |
| 17:36.53 | [Ammo] | then why don't I have the problem? |
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| 17:37.04 | Galencia | good question. |
| 17:37.19 | Goggles | Anyone else got issues downloading wowaceupdater? |
| 17:37.22 | Galencia | ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:304: in function <...terface\AddOns\ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:304> |
| 17:37.26 | Galencia | that file is revision 15183 |
| 17:37.32 | Gtyrte | hmm, I have a little problem with FuBar, when I try and make a bar in the middle of the frame it lays itslef on top of everything else, is it a way to make it lay behond the other frames? |
| 17:37.34 | Galencia | so i dont see how it can be an upgrade issue |
| 17:39.38 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: i have no idea, but tbh im not in any rush, old lobs work fine |
| 17:39.43 | Funkeh` | libs* |
| 17:39.45 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 17:40.11 | CIA-17 | 03amethyst * r15185 10FuBar_TankPointsFu/ (FuBar_TankPointsFu.toc TankPointsFu.lua): |
| 17:40.11 | CIA-17 | FuBar_TankPointsFu: |
| 17:40.12 | CIA-17 | - update with libs |
| 17:40.17 | Galencia | the most recent revision of parserlib in svn is 15183 |
| 17:40.19 | Galencia | ie: the one i have |
| 17:40.32 | Galencia | do you want me to check it out from svn to double prove it? :p |
| 17:40.33 | [Ammo] | parser works fine embedded et all |
| 17:40.39 | [Ammo] | I have no clue |
| 17:40.47 | [Ammo] | someone else can fix it for all I care |
| 17:41.02 | [Ammo] | or I'll just revert my stuff |
| 17:41.02 | Galencia | i'll re-embed it for simplecombatlog |
| 17:41.02 | Galencia | see what happens |
| 17:41.02 | [Ammo] | and leave you guys to rot |
| 17:41.03 | nevcairiel | search your full addons dir for parserlib |
| 17:41.12 | nevcairiel | it works fine with only one most recent verison |
| 17:41.16 | Galencia | nevcairiel: did, ages ago, and the paste proves its using the right one |
| 17:41.28 | nevcairiel | its your fault, works here. |
| 17:41.29 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 17:41.40 | Galencia | i wish people would stop with the "it works here" crap |
| 17:41.42 | Galencia | thats not helpful |
| 17:42.49 | nevcairiel | thats what you get when you use beta software |
| 17:42.57 | nevcairiel | unsupported products. |
| 17:43.04 | Galencia | fuck off already |
| 17:43.06 | [Ammo] | Galencia: I just got Chronometer, Antagonist, WitchHunt, SCL, SCT from the svn |
| 17:43.11 | [Ammo] | booted WoW |
| 17:43.13 | [Ammo] | and it works |
| 17:43.16 | [Ammo] | no errors |
| 17:43.24 | [Ammo] | how can I not tell you then that 'it works' |
| 17:43.26 | Galencia | [Ammo]: you're using embeds? |
| 17:43.35 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 17:44.10 | Galencia | right then bollocks to this, im switching to svn with externals |
| 17:44.10 | [Ammo] | anyway, I gotta run |
| 17:44.23 | nevcairiel | use !!!Libs, works fine. |
| 17:44.23 | [Ammo] | revert the ParserLib if you wish |
| 17:44.28 | [Ammo] | but it works for me |
| 17:44.31 | [Ammo] | later ~ |
| 17:44.32 | nevcairiel | the fix is fine |
| 17:44.37 | nevcairiel | later ammo |
| 17:44.37 | Galencia | nevcairiel: seriously, shut up if you cant contribute anything useful |
| 17:45.10 | nevcairiel | i did tell you that !!!Libs works fine. its not embeds but one big standalone. not useful? |
| 17:46.52 | Galencia | not entirely, considering im using WUA and standalone libraries |
| 17:47.00 | Galencia | which is using the SAME version as in !!!Libs |
| 17:47.10 | Galencia | which makes little to no sense :/ |
| 17:47.25 | Kebinusan | Im not using standalones, and basically SCL kicks an error on any damage spells for me |
| 17:47.35 | Kebinusan | SCL shows melee damage and heals fine |
| 17:47.39 | Galencia | what are you using? |
| 17:47.46 | Galencia | svn? zipz? |
| 17:47.47 | Kebinusan | svn |
| 17:47.57 | Kebinusan | Im reverting parserlib locally to see if it fixes it |
| 17:48.06 | nevcairiel | WUA has one flaw, the zips are not regenerated when a external lib is updated |
| 17:48.16 | Galencia | nevcairiel: thats why im using standlones.. duh.. |
| 17:48.28 | snurre | hm, just did 519k dmg on anubrekhan :p |
| 17:48.33 | Galencia | nevcairiel: see you dont even understad the problem, so stop commenting |
| 17:50.02 | Galencia | Kebinusan: let me know how it goes |
| 17:51.15 | Kebinusan | Yea I revered to 15117 and no more errors, so it does seem to be a parserlib prob |
| 17:51.18 | Mikma | Sairen: moo |
| 17:51.25 | Galencia | ok i'll try checking out that version |
| 17:51.26 | Sairen | Mikma: ewww |
| 17:51.39 | Mikma | Sairen: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2746.msg55475#msg55475 |
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| 17:52.57 | Galencia | Kebinusan: yup fixed it here too |
| 17:53.03 | Galencia | parserlib 15183 is broken. |
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| 18:03.44 | Gtyrte | Anyone having problems downloading Prat FuBar? |
| 18:06.23 | Gtyrte | hmm, i found out now, by going directly to teh svn main folder and finding it there I found it, but the link from the wowace site, lead me to a directory where I couldnt download any files if you are ineterested to know. |
| 18:09.45 | Galencia | anyone else got a problem with fubar_itembonuses? |
| 18:12.24 | Neebler | hmmm I'm going to download bongos in place of DAB, just so I can try out cyCircled |
| 18:13.43 | snurre | You crit Naxxramas Cultist for 2861. |
| 18:13.45 | snurre | yummy |
| 18:20.34 | haste | that's nothing! |
| 18:20.39 | haste | my rogue can survive 9k damage |
| 18:21.12 | JoshBorke | haste: ha! my paladin can survive wtflaser damage! |
| 18:21.52 | haste | Paladins have godmode tho' |
| 18:22.00 | fhein | is it possible to create a castbar+enemy castbar that uses absolute length based on casting time? i.e a 10s spell castbar is twice as long as a 5s spell |
| 18:22.02 | JoshBorke | that can be dispelled in TBC :-( |
| 18:22.13 | JoshBorke | fhein: no but you could write one |
| 18:22.50 | fhein | JoshBorke: mm, but I prefer playing the game and telling others what to create for me instead of doing any actual programming |
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| 18:24.39 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r15186 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib-1.1 : Fixed bug (ipairs -> pairs) |
| 18:26.13 | Amadeo | fhein: worded like that, I'm not sure you'll get anywhere :) |
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| 18:26.57 | sbu | mh Mikma - is it possible to skin the blizzard button frame w/ circled buttons? (yah i know, its Sairen but you should know about it anyways, BT2...) |
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| 18:27.42 | Fudge | Galencia, look another bugfix to ParseLib. ;P Try it now. |
| 18:27.53 | haste | JoshBorke: You just said: It's not possible, but he can craete one? |
| 18:28.09 | cncfanatics | Yo all |
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| 18:29.04 | JoshBorke | ah, yes, i mean it IS possible, but not written :-D |
| 18:29.53 | Mikma | sbu: sure, just code it :) |
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| 18:32.27 | phyber | haste: what's the point of the skinning delay in oSkin? I don't quite understand it :) |
| 18:32.47 | haste | It's the gimp adding stuff, not me |
| 18:33.24 | fhein | amadeo: lua doesn't seem that complicated.. might get away with modifying antagonist instead of writing something from scratch :) |
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| 18:35.28 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:35.46 | Mikma | hiya |
| 18:36.00 | phyber | haste: ah, ok. |
| 18:36.14 | phyber | thought something was screwed up in it when my frames were taking an age to skin. |
| 18:36.37 | cncfanatics | what is the url to the ace2 TBC branch? |
| 18:36.47 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15187 10oRA2/ (Core.lua Leader/Invite.lua): oRA2: Invite module will stay enabled out of raids, so that /rainvite and /rakeyword works. Drycoded. |
| 18:36.51 | vhaarr | What would your wild guess be? |
| 18:36.58 | vhaarr | I bet it would be right. |
| 18:37.39 | nevcairiel | Kebinusan: parserlib should be fixed now, ive been through it now and since the fix of fenlis all seems right |
| 18:37.50 | ckknight | cncfanatics, http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace2/TBC/Ace2/ |
| 18:37.57 | fenlis | hi all :) |
| 18:38.01 | cncfanatics | thanks ckknight |
| 18:38.11 | cncfanatics | any API changes compared to the usual branch ? |
| 18:38.44 | ckknight | AceHook-2.1 works properly with WoW 2.0 |
| 18:38.56 | ckknight | and we no longer use a1-a20, instead use ... |
| 18:39.17 | ckknight | and AceComm-2.0 can handle infinitely deep OnCommReceive tables instead of just 2-deep |
| 18:39.19 | ckknight | that's about it. |
| 18:41.22 | [FH]Birdemani | does cooldowncount work much in the same way as !omni? |
| 18:41.40 | ckknight | cncfanatics, in almost all cases, there aren't API changes. |
| 18:41.44 | cncfanatics | ok |
| 18:41.55 | ckknight | and if there are, it's more intuitive than before :-P |
| 18:42.20 | eternally777 | What's a good program to open *.blp files in Windows? |
| 18:42.23 | cncfanatics | ok, so should work out of the box ? |
| 18:43.21 | [FH]Birdemani | does cooldowncount work much in the same way as !omni? |
| 18:43.27 | [FH]Birdemani | anyone know? |
| 18:43.33 | Mikma | Sairen: btw good job on the cyCircled |
| 18:43.49 | Sairen | Mikma: thx :) does the XAD work fine? |
| 18:44.55 | eternally777 | [FH]Birdemani: I don't know, sry. !omnicc is about as simple as it can get. |
| 18:45.03 | Mikma | Sairen: yes it does actually. the pictures are slightly misaligned but doesn't matter to me :) |
| 18:45.20 | Mikma | Sairen: i can actually get you a screenshot if you are interested but it's propably easy to fix anywau |
| 18:45.36 | Sairen | Mikma: yea need to tweak the skins a bit |
| 18:46.01 | Neebler | DAB support please! |
| 18:46.20 | Sairen | for that you have to write a plugin yourself :P |
| 18:46.30 | Mikma | ah haha |
| 18:46.34 | Mikma | good answer sairen! |
| 18:46.41 | Neebler | you're a bad person~ |
| 18:47.14 | Mikma | sairen: let's do a anti-dab protection |
| 18:47.20 | Sairen | hehe '' |
| 18:47.22 | Sairen | ^^ |
| 18:47.33 | Fudge | DAB's the devil! D: |
| 18:47.50 | Mikma | if IsAddOnLoaded("DAB") DisableAddOn("DAB") end |
| 18:47.52 | Neebler | negative |
| 18:48.00 | Mikma | positive like aids |
| 18:48.18 | Mikma | Sairen: i'll have a look at the tweaking so you don't have to bother |
| 18:48.59 | cncfanatics | if(IsAddonLoaded("Dab")) then RemoveAddon("DAB"); LoadAddon("FlexBar2"); end; |
| 18:49.14 | cncfanatics | much better Mikma :p |
| 18:49.19 | Mikma | no |
| 18:49.32 | Mikma | we don't wan't to force people to use crap they don't need |
| 18:50.20 | cncfanatics | :o Don't dare calling fb2 crap :p fb1 is but 2 ain't :p |
| 18:50.37 | Mikma | yes it's crap |
| 18:50.41 | cncfanatics | neh |
| 18:50.43 | Mikma | why? |
| 18:50.47 | Mikma | because i don't care a fuck :D |
| 18:50.56 | Fudge | Mikma, you rebel! |
| 18:51.37 | yacoob | rebel scum, you meant? |
| 18:52.08 | Mikma | yacoob: well if we wanna copy SW 1:1, sure |
| 18:52.25 | yacoob | ...wait a second. |
| 18:52.27 | Mikma | lol |
| 18:53.20 | Fudge | Kinky. |
| 18:53.35 | yacoob | My lack of faith disturbs me. |
| 18:53.52 | yacoob | ...hey, it happened again! Something shift your pronouns! |
| 18:54.11 | Fudge | ... |
| 18:54.27 | yacoob | Allright, allright. I'll stop that. |
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| 19:01.02 | evl | Anyone got 1.13 notes/items/new stuff link? |
| 19:01.23 | Mikma | this is just fucking great |
| 19:01.28 | Mikma | dead pixel on screen <3 |
| 19:01.35 | Mikma | and it's pink! |
| 19:01.54 | weab | its a rebel pixel |
| 19:02.03 | weab | you should relate |
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| 19:03.34 | Mikma | hi usz |
| 19:04.05 | usz | heya, tho i just DCed ^^ |
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| 19:05.09 | Mikma | doesn't matter that just tells me that you are here |
| 19:05.13 | CIA-17 | 03bhattu * r15188 10Chronometer/ (Chronometer.toc Data/Racial.lua readme.txt): Chronometer: Add racial abilities. |
| 19:05.16 | entropism | hey folks |
| 19:07.06 | haste | Hello |
| 19:07.10 | cncfanatics | bah, can someone help me with some regexes, again ?? |
| 19:07.12 | Mikma | haste: let's do something fun |
| 19:07.48 | Mikma | let's play RPS :D O - >8 |
| 19:07.59 | haste | I'm sleeping in Naxx atm |
| 19:08.26 | Mikma | meh |
| 19:10.25 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: what are you trying to do now? |
| 19:11.13 | entropism | Has anyone noticed that your autoattack icon in bongos doesn't always swap when you swap weapons? |
| 19:11.16 | Funkeh` | faerlina has been edited again? shes enraging early randomly, with like 5 sec to go >< |
| 19:11.21 | entropism | it's nothing major, just bugs the crap out of me |
| 19:12.53 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/1798 |
| 19:12.56 | cncfanatics | pastamancer |
| 19:13.00 | cncfanatics | everything is working, but the gsub |
| 19:13.08 | cncfanatics | doesn't replace anything, and Don't know why :/ |
| 19:14.20 | pastamancer | because string.gsub doesn't work the way you think it does |
| 19:14.34 | pastamancer | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#5.3 |
| 19:15.26 | cncfanatics | whats wrong with my code ? |
| 19:15.36 | cncfanatics | first arg, the original string, second, the patern to match, third, the replacement |
| 19:15.45 | cncfanatics | hmmm, forgot str = |
| 19:15.47 | cncfanatics | -.- |
| 19:15.51 | pastamancer | yes |
| 19:16.24 | cncfanatics | w000t, texts subs are working in flexbar :) |
| 19:16.26 | cncfanatics | 2* |
| 19:17.09 | Kirkburn | I have to ask ... why CIA-17? |
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| 19:17.35 | pastamancer | I still think Flexbar2.Model:GetTempData("TextSubTable") should be a local |
| 19:17.54 | cncfanatics | i'm first coding everything to globals |
| 19:17.59 | cncfanatics | (there is a LOT of other code) |
| 19:18.08 | cncfanatics | will look at performance thru locals & stuff when i'm done :p |
| 19:18.33 | pastamancer | Performance be damned, I use locals because it saves typing :p |
| 19:18.49 | cncfanatics | I don't care about typing |
| 19:18.59 | cncfanatics | performance > all |
| 19:19.03 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 19:19.24 | weab | it looks prettier |
| 19:19.24 | pastamancer | then you should still use locals |
| 19:19.34 | cncfanatics | I will soon :p |
| 19:19.45 | ckknight | Kirkburn, there are many CIA bots. |
| 19:20.05 | ckknight | performance > all |
| 19:20.31 | pastamancer | readability and maintainability > performance |
| 19:20.58 | cncfanatics | my code is very maintainable, imo anyway :p |
| 19:22.06 | JoshBorke | you can do: local Flexbar2.Model:GetTempData = Flexbar2.Model:GetTempData |
| 19:22.13 | JoshBorke | and make it into a local ;-) |
| 19:22.17 | JoshBorke | actually, maybe not |
| 19:22.29 | pastamancer | that seems like a terrible idea if it were possible |
| 19:22.30 | JoshBorke | since it's table/method call. but you could make the Flexbar2.Model local |
| 19:22.56 | cncfanatics | that borks memory usage & performance at the cost of readability right ? |
| 19:23.12 | evl | Anyone got 1.13 notes/items/new stuff link? |
| 19:23.18 | JoshBorke | no. it uses a little bit of memory for more performance |
| 19:23.28 | JoshBorke | accessing locals is far faster than accessing globals |
| 19:23.31 | cncfanatics | there is no 1.13 that I know off evl |
| 19:23.37 | JoshBorke | and table lookups are another level of performance |
| 19:23.50 | cncfanatics | bleh, in a good or bad way ? |
| 19:23.52 | JoshBorke | if you do a local _Model = Flexbar2.Model at the beginning then you only do the table lookup once |
| 19:23.57 | cncfanatics | each Model calls searched a tabel -.- |
| 19:24.13 | cncfanatics | s/tabel/table/ |
| 19:24.36 | kergoth | a local takes up almost no space. its just a reference. a holder. a slot in a numerically indexed locals table |
| 19:24.38 | JoshBorke | to do Flexbar2.Model it has to first find the Flexbar2 global, then find the Model value in the Flexbar2 table |
| 19:25.03 | JoshBorke | locals are a good thing ;-) |
| 19:27.28 | cncfanatics | hmmm, is there another way to update cd numbers except thru onupdate |
| 19:27.29 | cncfanatics | ?* |
| 19:27.31 | JoshBorke | hm, to the people who replaced ipairs with pairs in ParserLib, you did so as a performance gain? it was decided that table order didn't matter? (which does make sense to me) |
| 19:27.44 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: how do you know when the CD numbers change? |
| 19:28.15 | cncfanatics | well, Is there an event that triggers each time the cd changes by a sec ? guess not ? |
| 19:28.23 | JoshBorke | highly doubtful |
| 19:28.33 | haste | there is I believe |
| 19:28.41 | nevcairiel | JoshBorke: it was "for i,v in table" before, and ammo replaced it with ipairs, but that are hashtables. |
| 19:28.43 | cncfanatics | what one ? didnt find one in wowwiki |
| 19:28.46 | nevcairiel | so the key actually matters |
| 19:28.53 | haste | SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN |
| 19:29.33 | cncfanatics | thats just when it starts |
| 19:31.27 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: i see where ammo made it compatible but then later he went on to remove the ipairs and put in pairs instead |
| 19:31.50 | nevcairiel | yeah, because the value of the key actually matters |
| 19:31.57 | nevcairiel | and not only the position in the table |
| 19:32.11 | JoshBorke | ah, i see what you're saying now |
| 19:32.36 | JoshBorke | though for those some of those tables there shouldn't be any non-integer indexed values should there? |
| 19:32.40 | nevcairiel | that was causing the errors some people had with parserlib some hour ago |
| 19:33.33 | nevcairiel | hrm, i am not that familiar with parserlib |
| 19:33.42 | Mikma | nevcairiel: OH OH! did you see the posts on DreamChat topic :D |
| 19:33.48 | nevcairiel | no |
| 19:33.55 | Mikma | well go and have a look |
| 19:33.55 | nevcairiel | whats it say? |
| 19:34.09 | Mikma | it says it's doable without all the FCF hussle |
| 19:34.48 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: http://www.pastey.net/1799 is probably how I would write UpdateButtonText |
| 19:34.54 | nevcairiel | where was that thread? |
| 19:35.23 | Mikma | nevcairiel: ideas and requests |
| 19:35.37 | pastamancer | err replace the local space with local match |
| 19:36.06 | nevcairiel | yeah i thought about redoing |
| 19:36.10 | nevcairiel | from scratch |
| 19:36.22 | Mikma | nevcairiel: and... did ya look at the usz's code |
| 19:36.29 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 19:36.31 | Mikma | it's quite good actually and might suit our needs perfectly |
| 19:37.00 | nevcairiel | was that chatr? |
| 19:37.03 | cncfanatics | that'd update all the subs |
| 19:37.07 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: local the string.find/string.gsub/string.gmatch? |
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| 19:37.07 | cncfanatics | i'd better match only the cooldown one |
| 19:37.12 | AKX | Hmmmmm? Someone mentioned chatr?! :D |
| 19:37.15 | cncfanatics | but thats for the other parts of the script :) |
| 19:37.20 | Mikma | AKX: lol |
| 19:37.26 | AKX | Highlights ;) |
| 19:37.29 | Mikma | haha |
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| 19:37.37 | Mikma | i only have my name in highlight ;D |
| 19:37.39 | pastamancer | JoshBorke: I wouldn't |
| 19:37.52 | Mikma | having your addons in highlight is a little paranoid :D |
| 19:38.21 | JoshBorke | pastamancer: why not? they get called just as often as the textSubTable? |
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| 19:38.34 | pastamancer | because they're part of the lua standard library |
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| 19:42.50 | Kirkburn | ~1.13 |
| 19:42.51 | purl | 1.13 is dead, Dave. Dave, 1.13 is dead. Dead, Dave. 1.13, Dead. Dave, it's dead. 1.13 is dead, Dave. |
| 19:43.05 | Mikma | that's not true ;) |
| 19:43.09 | Kirkburn | Useful, no? :P |
| 19:43.11 | Mikma | 1.13 might be coming after all haha |
| 19:43.34 | Kirkburn | Shush |
| 19:43.38 | Kirkburn | You know I'm right |
| 19:44.04 | Kirkburn | The only info we've had from Blizz is that 1.13 doesn't exist :) |
| 19:44.32 | Kirkburn | Btw, that was a Red Dwarf quote |
| 19:44.42 | Kirkburn | (or close enough anyway) |
| 19:44.58 | haste | ~1.12 |
| 19:45.02 | haste | :( |
| 19:45.08 | cncfanatics | ~haste |
| 19:45.11 | purl | from memory, haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo. |
| 19:45.14 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 19:45.22 | haste | ~emulate ag' |
| 19:45.25 | haste | ~emulate ag` |
| 19:45.26 | purl | ~haste |
| 19:45.29 | haste | :3 |
| 19:45.37 | cncfanatics | :D |
| 19:45.40 | cncfanatics | ~cncfanatics |
| 19:45.43 | cncfanatics | nothing ? :) |
| 19:45.47 | cncfanatics | goodie |
| 19:45.51 | Kirkburn | ~1.12 |
| 19:45.52 | purl | 1.12: the calm before the storm... |
| 19:45.56 | Mikma | purl: cncfanatics is <reply> asshat |
| 19:45.58 | purl | Mikma: okay |
| 19:46.03 | pastamancer | haha |
| 19:46.16 | cncfanatics | ~cncfanatics |
| 19:46.18 | purl | asshat |
| 19:46.36 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 19:46.50 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 19:47.20 | entropism | how odd... each piece of the current rank 13-14 gear is going to cost 20 honor tokens from a random BG |
| 19:47.38 | *** join/#wowace Mery (i=metelman@p54AEFA3E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:47.42 | entropism | HWL axes in one day! YAY easy mode! /wrists |
| 19:47.46 | phyber | ag`_: where is the "Combat Text" supposed to display in agUF? I've never seen it. |
| 19:47.48 | Industrial | will there be more uber pwnage gear then? |
| 19:47.53 | phyber | is it on top of the player frame? |
| 19:47.55 | entropism | Indy: yeah |
| 19:47.58 | entropism | \ |
| 19:48.06 | Industrial | goooo imbalancedness |
| 19:48.08 | Industrial | :} |
| 19:48.08 | entropism | they want people to easily get lvl 70 gear |
| 19:48.15 | Industrial | why |
| 19:48.18 | Industrial | thats rediculous |
| 19:48.24 | Industrial | they should make it 3x harder |
| 19:48.25 | Industrial | :| |
| 19:48.34 | entropism | how is it imbalanced? any random noob can spend 2 days in a BG and get rank 14 gear. Now EVERYONE is "uber" |
| 19:48.42 | Industrial | I mean cmon why want to make it even harder for people without gear |
| 19:48.52 | Industrial | thats not fun |
| 19:49.02 | Industrial | theres gotta be difference |
| 19:49.08 | Industrial | you have to have a goal |
| 19:49.15 | entropism | greens to purples in 48 hours seems a bit too much to me |
| 19:49.22 | Industrial | thats like playing a game with godmode on just to reach the end and then dump it |
| 19:49.26 | entropism | yup |
| 19:49.36 | Industrial | thats not mmorpg |
| 19:49.44 | entropism | rank 11 mounts cost 20 tokens too |
| 19:49.49 | Industrial | pff |
| 19:49.53 | cncfanatics | sigh, thats currently in beta ... |
| 19:49.55 | Galencia | Fudge: will do! |
| 19:50.03 | cncfanatics | u guys realize that the beta is made to gear & level up fast right ? |
| 19:50.14 | cncfanatics | xp rates & item costs have been lowered a lot |
| 19:50.16 | ag` | phyber: you have to enable it |
| 19:50.19 | entropism | yeah, currently in beta, but even if they made it 60 tokens per piece |
| 19:50.24 | ag` | phyber: it is displayed in the center of each frame |
| 19:50.27 | ag` | you can't miss it |
| 19:50.29 | cncfanatics | more like 200-300 probably |
| 19:50.44 | Industrial | oh ok then its good |
| 19:50.45 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:50.49 | Industrial | phew |
| 19:50.52 | Industrial | -_-' |
| 19:50.55 | entropism | ok, so a week's worth of PVP per item is OK |
| 19:51.00 | entropism | that I can see |
| 19:51.20 | entropism | 150 for 1H, 300 for 2Hers.... seems fair |
| 19:52.01 | Galencia | Fudge: yup, that does the trick |
| 19:52.18 | Industrial | just came back from kickboxing |
| 19:52.21 | Industrial | went to a new gym |
| 19:52.31 | Industrial | gunna feel it tomorrow |
| 19:52.31 | Industrial | :D |
| 19:52.51 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 19:52.57 | cncfanatics | what is a good rate to trigger OnUpdate at ? |
| 19:52.58 | Industrial | meh but it was fun ill go again in 2 days :P |
| 19:53.00 | cncfanatics | 0.7 secish ? |
| 19:53.18 | nevcairiel | ive been using it 0.2 for some time now |
| 19:53.22 | Industrial | 0.5? |
| 19:53.27 | cncfanatics | just need to update cd numbers |
| 19:53.34 | cncfanatics | want it a bit more often then once per sec |
| 19:53.58 | Industrial | but they are only changing per sec.. |
| 19:54.02 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:54.10 | cncfanatics | no they're not |
| 19:54.11 | nevcairiel | use 0.5 then |
| 19:54.14 | cncfanatics | if u trigger multiple cooldowns |
| 19:54.21 | cncfanatics | they might not change exactly at the same tile |
| 19:54.22 | cncfanatics | time* |
| 19:54.27 | Industrial | 1..2..345...6..7.. ? |
| 19:54.27 | cncfanatics | making them be slightly off |
| 19:54.31 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:54.41 | pastamancer | I'd agree with 0.5 |
| 19:54.51 | cncfanatics | neh, one may be at 1.6 (which rounds to 2) and the other at 0.7 which rounds to 1 |
| 19:55.36 | Industrial | then start the timer right after the event happens |
| 19:55.53 | cncfanatics | kinda hard to keep 120+ timers sometimes :/ |
| 19:55.59 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:56.07 | *** join/#wowace Chippen|TaE (n=thelones@host-83-166-15-67.hernonet.se) |
| 19:56.09 | cncfanatics | as the number of actionbuttons is unlimited, it may even be 500 :p |
| 19:56.22 | Chippen|TaE | server -m irc.quakenet.org |
| 19:56.25 | Chippen|TaE | bah |
| 19:59.07 | phyber | ag`: strange then. I have it enabled and I've never seen it show up. |
| 19:59.47 | cncfanatics | does the xor operator exist in lua ? |
| 20:00.02 | phyber | ag`: could you add an option to turn the names red when they're in combat? :) |
| 20:00.32 | Industrial | Wheres the pvp gear person in org? |
| 20:00.34 | sbu | hmm - can i get the icon textures used by that blizzard bar? (spellbook, gamemaster, help, char windows, ...) |
| 20:00.45 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 20:00.51 | Industrial | valley of honor/> |
| 20:00.54 | cncfanatics | u can access them like regular frames and call :GetTexture() |
| 20:01.34 | krka | w00t, lua on slashdot |
| 20:02.13 | cncfanatics | link ? |
| 20:02.46 | gnorlish | the pvp gear area is to the left of the wind rider after going up the tower |
| 20:02.52 | gnorlish | if you mean the hall of the brave |
| 20:03.23 | Mikma | http://www.saunalahti.fi/~krkoski/kerros/heippa.jpg |
| 20:03.26 | ag` | cncfanatics: did you figure out the stance stuff yet? |
| 20:03.31 | ag` | I think it should be possible atm |
| 20:03.37 | Mikma | the thing in this picture is someone complaining crap |
| 20:03.41 | ag` | with a secure header |
| 20:03.57 | cncfanatics | didnt try yet :/ |
| 20:04.02 | cncfanatics | will try after text subs are done & working |
| 20:05.13 | phyber | ag`: http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_102506_210146.jpg |
| 20:05.21 | cncfanatics | only showing & hiding is possible right ? |
| 20:05.21 | phyber | in combat with no text on either me or the pet. |
| 20:05.24 | phyber | and it's enabled for both frames. |
| 20:06.40 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: how often are you calling UpdateButtonText? |
| 20:06.58 | cncfanatics | 0.5 sec |
| 20:07.38 | pastamancer | oh, you probably want to do the replacing when the button's text is changed and then save a closure that generates the dynamic text |
| 20:07.56 | Amadeo | So we had an MMOG discussion yesterday, and I forgot to ask if anyone plays EVE currently |
| 20:08.14 | pastamancer | that way you don't need to be calling string.gmatch constantly |
| 20:08.22 | cncfanatics | I kinda have to :/ |
| 20:08.40 | cncfanatics | Need to find out if $(cd) (the textsub for cooldown) is on the label |
| 20:09.20 | pastamancer | that's why you parse the "TextField"..i once (or whenever it's changed) and generate a closure |
| 20:10.08 | pastamancer | I'll see if I can put together an example for you |
| 20:10.28 | pastamancer | it'll improve the performance a great deal |
| 20:12.36 | *** join/#wowace Grine (n=ghallber@h39n1c1o285.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 20:12.41 | CIA-17 | 03worf * r15189 10CC_Core/ (. CC_Core.toc): CC_Core: Updated Ace2 libs |
| 20:14.00 | Grine | damn why is clad sleeping... |
| 20:15.10 | Amadeo | beauty rest |
| 20:15.38 | Worf | hehe |
| 20:16.03 | Grine | he doesn't need beauty, he needs to add my feature requests to PRaid :P |
| 20:18.00 | Mikma | haste: does ocd support focused casting? :) |
| 20:18.11 | haste | Mikma: it should support everything |
| 20:18.29 | Mikma | haste: what about Bartender2? :D |
| 20:18.29 | haste | it scans the spellbook, and tags spells with cooldow as valid spell sources |
| 20:18.38 | haste | also supported |
| 20:18.41 | Mikma | neat |
| 20:18.58 | Mikma | i noticed Chronometer being a pain in the ass |
| 20:19.11 | Amadeo | it's a hefty addon |
| 20:19.16 | Industrial | http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_102506_2217585a1.jpg |
| 20:19.23 | Industrial | BLIZZARD YOU SUCK~!1`11` |
| 20:19.26 | Industrial | >:( |
| 20:19.28 | Industrial | (chat) |
| 20:20.39 | Industrial | does that so many times |
| 20:20.46 | Industrial | and I cant pull apart the tabs anymore |
| 20:21.00 | Amadeo | I've never had that happen to me |
| 20:21.05 | cncfanatics | never happened |
| 20:21.10 | cncfanatics | looks more like its an addon of urs |
| 20:21.18 | Industrial | nah :P |
| 20:21.28 | Mikma | Industrial: /script ChatFrame2:ClearAllPoints() ChatFrame2:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER") |
| 20:21.43 | Mikma | or just dock the tab |
| 20:21.55 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.05 | Industrial | you can setpoint the chat? -__ |
| 20:22.25 | Industrial | thought blizzard managed that |
| 20:22.44 | Mikma | yes you can setpoint it but you need to move it for it to save the position |
| 20:22.52 | Industrial | thanks worked |
| 20:22.54 | Mikma | or else it will go back to the original position after reaload |
| 20:23.03 | Mikma | reload even :P |
| 20:23.16 | alcaras | miles here? |
| 20:23.22 | alcaras | if so, ty so much for taint mapper! |
| 20:23.41 | alcaras | now if wowi's site would actually let me download it |
| 20:24.10 | Mi|es | hehe |
| 20:24.15 | alcaras | getting unable to download :( |
| 20:24.23 | Industrial | taint mapper? |
| 20:24.35 | alcaras | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5531 |
| 20:24.35 | Mikma | now that's neat |
| 20:24.36 | Mi|es | np. I just had the idea to diff 2 memory snapshots |
| 20:24.41 | alcaras | The site database appears to be down. |
| 20:24.42 | alcaras | :-/ |
| 20:24.51 | Mi|es | hmm. lemme upload it somewhere for the moment |
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| 20:25.20 | Industrial | ~dict tainted |
| 20:25.25 | Mi|es | http://elektron.its.tudelft.nl/~chkwok30/oekaboe/taintmap.zip |
| 20:25.30 | alcaras | YOINK |
| 20:25.30 | alcaras | ty |
| 20:25.47 | alcaras | now to detaintify my ui |
| 20:25.47 | *** join/#wowace gnor (n=jaydee@70-38-2-202.vnnyca.adelphia.net) |
| 20:25.54 | alcaras | and then release the glorious untainted version |
| 20:26.33 | cncfanatics | w000tage, text subs work, so, time to get some sleep :) |
| 20:26.45 | cncfanatics | (pastamancer, tell the bot to msg me for that code, rly gtg :() |
| 20:28.08 | CIA-17 | 03cncfanatics * r15190 10FlexBar2/ (4 files): FlexBar2: Disabled debugging, Disabled autoreset on login, Finished Text subs |
| 20:29.10 | *** part/#wowace cncfanatics (n=evolve@189.70-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 20:29.46 | haste | what would the easiet regexp for matching a file extension of three letters be? |
| 20:31.24 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.33 | nevcairiel | three letters |
| 20:31.35 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:31.37 | vhaarr | ah :P |
| 20:31.42 | vhaarr | I don't remember that otoh |
| 20:32.18 | omega__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.31 | omega__ | if you want it to me 1-2 chars its {1,3} |
| 20:32.40 | Mikma | hmm |
| 20:34.48 | omega__ | 1-3 ofc |
| 20:35.06 | omega__ | $ anchors at the end |
| 20:35.20 | omega__ | since . means "any character" in regexp, it needs to be escaped |
| 20:35.59 | Mikma | vhaarr: you too, look at the posts AKX and usz posted in DreamChat |
| 20:36.00 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r15191 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/ (FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua FuBar_PotHerbFu.toc readme.txt): FuBar_PotHerbFu : added new functionality and some minor stuff, also fixed a few minor bugs |
| 20:36.17 | vhaarr | Mikma: link? |
| 20:36.44 | Mikma | vhaarr: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2571.msg55175#msg55175 |
| 20:37.51 | Industrial | woot pwning av pleeeesch gimme my spear :> |
| 20:37.52 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 20:40.00 | Amadeo | I find that I pick all the wrong servers for winning BGs |
| 20:40.08 | Amadeo | On my Alliance char, we lose every AV |
| 20:40.16 | Amadeo | on my Horde chat, we lose every AV |
| 20:40.19 | Amadeo | er |
| 20:40.19 | Amadeo | char |
| 20:40.23 | Amadeo | chat...wtf |
| 20:40.33 | vhaarr | There's only one logical conclusion then; you're the fuckup. |
| 20:40.35 | vhaarr | :D |
| 20:40.41 | yacoob | toon, Amadeo :) |
| 20:40.54 | Amadeo | vhaarr: I was winning until I installed your addons! |
| 20:41.01 | vhaarr | :( |
| 20:41.08 | Amadeo | no no, not toon |
| 20:41.14 | Amadeo | toon is too....toonish |
| 20:41.32 | Amadeo | I think of Bugs Bunny when someone says toon |
| 20:43.09 | Amadeo | I'm installing EVE, I think I'll play the free trial again |
| 20:43.19 | evl | EVE = Timesink from another universe |
| 20:43.40 | Kirkburn | WoW = timesink from .our universe?? |
| 20:43.45 | Amadeo | but since I'm only playing the free trial, I'll be careless |
| 20:43.51 | Amadeo | so I can just fly out anywhere and shoot people |
| 20:44.27 | Amadeo | Find a huge Titan and shoot it with mining lasers |
| 20:45.37 | Amadeo | problem is, I know nothing about EVE |
| 20:52.23 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2571.msg55537#msg55537 |
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| 20:52.36 | Mikma | lol he really dislikes the idea of hooking things and has made 2 posts about it now ;) |
| 20:53.00 | Mikma | but he has a point really |
| 20:53.08 | Mikma | hooking chat will only bring problems later |
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| 21:01.45 | Mikma | gah i need to sleep now. gn and see ya again tomorrow |
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| 21:22.55 | haste | wee, picked up some Tier 3, only four weeks before it was intended |
| 21:25.03 | *** join/#wowace hugo (i=hugo@hugo.scnet.cz) |
| 21:25.10 | Industrial | with your lock? |
| 21:25.20 | Industrial | haha looks like a clown |
| 21:25.21 | eternally777 | So apparently, contrary to the conclusion I arrived at last night, not calling the original :AddMessage() function when hooking a chatframe will cause your game to freeze on load. |
| 21:25.22 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:25.46 | Industrial | oh? |
| 21:25.54 | Industrial | well thats not true tbh |
| 21:26.05 | eternally777 | wait.. |
| 21:26.11 | Industrial | it just doesnt display anything in the chat |
| 21:26.17 | Industrial | (like its supposed to) |
| 21:26.29 | eternally777 | something's wierd. |
| 21:27.13 | eternally777 | http://ace.pastey.net/1808 |
| 21:27.19 | eternally777 | That chuck freezes my game |
| 21:27.45 | eternally777 | s/chuck/chunk/ |
| 21:28.02 | haste | ISn't the frame userdata there? |
| 21:28.15 | *** join/#wowace hugo654 (n=hugo@hugo.scnet.cz) |
| 21:28.20 | pastamancer | eternally777: what does self:Print() do? |
| 21:28.21 | Industrial | you are calling print |
| 21:28.22 | Industrial | you cant |
| 21:28.31 | Industrial | thats a loop to addmessage, wich you are hooking |
| 21:28.32 | eternally777 | Yeah, I figured that out. |
| 21:28.32 | haste | ah, C stack |
| 21:28.38 | eternally777 | :P |
| 21:28.44 | haste | Those are fun :3 |
| 21:28.49 | Industrial | that so sucks with chat addons |
| 21:28.51 | Industrial | cant debug |
| 21:28.55 | Industrial | :| |
| 21:28.57 | pastamancer | sure you can |
| 21:28.58 | eternally777 | Then my regex must be wrong, because it still displays my messages. |
| 21:29.02 | haste | you can |
| 21:29.02 | Industrial | well not easily |
| 21:29.08 | haste | make your own deubug frame |
| 21:29.12 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 21:29.13 | haste | s/ub/b/ |
| 21:29.22 | Industrial | meh, yeh |
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| 21:32.18 | Industrial | http://ace.pastey.net/1809 |
| 21:32.20 | Industrial | yes im bored |
| 21:33.24 | Industrial | ~dict tainted |
| 21:33.37 | eternally777 | You're bored? Can you make another post showing a chunk of code that will return true if all factors are right for a spell to be cast on another raid member, given the actionbutton the spell is on and the unitid of the raid member? |
| 21:33.55 | eternally777 | :D |
| 21:33.56 | ag` | debauched |
| 21:34.01 | ag` | gangrenous |
| 21:34.13 | Industrial | sure |
| 21:34.15 | Industrial | sec |
| 21:35.27 | eternally777 | I'd be much obliged |
| 21:36.37 | Industrial | no i cant |
| 21:36.38 | Industrial | :( |
| 21:37.02 | eternally777 | bummer |
| 21:37.13 | weab | pastey's syntax highlighting thing seems to strip spaces in safari |
| 21:37.14 | Industrial | cant you just cast the spell? |
| 21:37.15 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:37.23 | weab | for some odd reason |
| 21:37.45 | eternally777 | No, because if I cast I need to release information, but if it fails I need to retain the information. |
| 21:39.05 | weab | this site has no doctype |
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| 21:51.20 | steino_ | haste is currently challenging another member of our guild to a fap-down.. nasty! |
| 21:51.28 | steino_ | mr. perv himself! |
| 21:55.06 | *** join/#wowace Neronix (i=neronix@user-5441905c.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 21:56.26 | Industrial | :| |
| 21:56.32 | yacoob | :? |
| 21:56.38 | Industrial | :| |
| 21:56.40 | Kirkburn | That's .... lovely |
| 21:57.13 | Industrial | haste thats not something id expect of you |
| 21:57.15 | haste | haha |
| 21:57.18 | haste | ~haste |
| 21:57.20 | purl | it has been said that haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo. |
| 21:57.26 | Industrial | im deeply dissapointed in you young man! |
| 21:57.31 | haste | I'm trying to get a guild rank created! |
| 21:57.35 | Industrial | LOL ok :P |
| 21:57.37 | haste | My guild note is: I fap to loli |
| 21:57.44 | haste | so I have to suprass it! |
| 21:57.44 | Industrial | >_> |
| 21:57.50 | haste | Think I lost tho' |
| 21:58.04 | weab | you lost the fap off? |
| 21:58.19 | weab | came first or something? |
| 21:58.23 | haste | haha |
| 21:58.31 | haste | nah, didn't get to that point |
| 21:58.45 | Industrial | tmi |
| 22:00.22 | snurre | we have the best guild ranks ever.. Ninjawizard, Pirate Yarr!, Cheesemonkey and Manwhore |
| 22:02.20 | weab | my rank was god. i thought it portrayed me as humble |
| 22:03.12 | Industrial | im a maggot :| |
| 22:04.00 | *** join/#wowace yacoob (i=yacoob@hell.pl) |
| 22:04.26 | vhaarr | Eh .. TargetByName was removed in TBC? The 2.0.0 changelog does not mention it? |
| 22:04.28 | vhaarr | ... |
| 22:04.30 | sbu | mhhh - how can i view Interface\\Buttons\\* textures w/ starting the game? |
| 22:04.58 | Industrial | get an MPQ viewer |
| 22:05.13 | Industrial | or whatever those files are packed in in wow/data |
| 22:05.14 | sbu | mh ok, that structure is saved in mpq? |
| 22:05.15 | haste | hmm |
| 22:05.29 | haste | I see the clock in-game hit 0:00 and my WoW locks up |
| 22:05.30 | Industrial | yes mpq |
| 22:05.30 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:05.31 | haste | scary |
| 22:05.55 | Industrial | wow client of doom |
| 22:06.05 | haste | and it doesn't start |
| 22:06.07 | yacoob | tick tick tick tick BOOM! |
| 22:06.07 | haste | what the hell |
| 22:06.13 | Industrial | ok .. im REALLY bored |
| 22:06.15 | Industrial | :| |
| 22:06.18 | haste | fap! |
| 22:06.22 | Neronix | Seconded |
| 22:06.31 | Industrial | no energy left, kickboxing |
| 22:06.38 | haste | oh, there it "came" |
| 22:07.03 | Industrial | actually I molested my right arm during training so that sucks :P |
| 22:07.09 | Neronix | Use your left |
| 22:07.09 | Industrial | cant even lift it |
| 22:07.57 | Neronix | So anyways, who likes the idea of a BSOD mod? |
| 22:08.01 | snurre | no fapping for you! |
| 22:08.04 | sbu | ahh ok |
| 22:08.49 | yacoob | Neronix, behaving exactly as bsod screensaver? |
| 22:09.24 | Neronix | You die, you get a BSOD on top of your UI (With a semi-randomoly generated error message based on what mods you have installed!) giving you the option to abort (get rid of the BSOD and watch the action around your corpse) or retry (Release spirit) |
| 22:10.33 | weab | sounds amusing but annoying |
| 22:11.56 | sbu | mhpf |
| 22:12.00 | Neronix | It'll also optionally be accompanied by Strong Bad screaming something |
| 22:12.11 | Neronix | "Why you lazy worthless crap for crap!" |
| 22:12.16 | Neronix | "Flagrant error!?" |
| 22:12.24 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.119) |
| 22:12.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 22:12.46 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:12.50 | yacoob | Abort, Retry, Fail? |
| 22:12.58 | yacoob | "Hey, I already DID fail..." |
| 22:12.58 | sbu | those microbutton textures always have their buttons with them :/ so no icon w/o button-texture :/ |
| 22:13.00 | haste | ah, guild VT |
| 22:13.07 | Neronix | what would fail do? Logout()? :P |
| 22:13.11 | haste | current conversation: I've seen X inthe guild naked! |
| 22:13.48 | sbu | mh, pic or it didnt happen? :o |
| 22:16.42 | vhaarr | hey ckk |
| 22:21.47 | CIA-17 | 03caldar * r15192 10OneRing/ (OneRing.lua locals.lua): OneRing - Updated to use AceLocal 2.2 and AceHook 2.1 |
| 22:22.32 | ag`_ | haste, your guild vent is fucked... |
| 22:22.34 | ag`_ | ~haste |
| 22:22.36 | purl | haste is, like, a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo. |
| 22:23.17 | haste | haha |
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| 22:23.39 | Kalamadi | Hrm. How I keep a certain module from compiling under Linux? |
| 22:24.01 | Kalamadi | I can prevent the module from loading, but I'd rather not have it there altogether |
| 22:24.18 | Kalamadi | hw_random for those who are wondering |
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| 22:25.08 | Neronix | clad's gonna get pissed at that commit |
| 22:25.54 | ag`_ | Kalamadi, you should be able to disable it when you configure your kernel options |
| 22:26.02 | ag`_ | make menuconfig or whatever |
| 22:26.05 | ag`_ | Neronix, what commit? |
| 22:26.19 | ckknight | yea, what commit are you talking about? |
| 22:26.55 | Neronix | [23:30:00] [CIA-17] caldar * r15192 OneRing/ (OneRing.lua locals.lua): OneRing - Updated to use AceLocal 2.2 and AceHook 2.1 |
| 22:27.03 | ckknight | so? |
| 22:27.07 | Neronix | Clad said he wants to stick to 2.0 |
| 22:27.13 | ckknight | ... |
| 22:27.21 | kergoth | one* is kael, not clad, isnt it? |
| 22:27.26 | kergoth | or did i miss something? |
| 22:27.28 | Neronix | D'oh |
| 22:27.28 | ckknight | yea, that's Kael. |
| 22:27.36 | Kalamadi | ag`_: I'll try to find it again :/ I don't see anything under Processor Type and Features |
| 22:27.37 | Neronix | self:Stab(self.eyes) |
| 22:27.39 | CIA-17 | 03caldar * r15193 10OneView/ (OneButton.lua OneView.lua locals.lua): OneView - Updated for AceLocal 2.2 and AceHook 2.1 |
| 22:27.53 | ag`_ | Neronix, and stick to 2.0 on what addon? |
| 22:27.54 | Neronix | ( |
| 22:28.02 | sbu | !whalestab Neronix |
| 22:28.05 | sbu | mh |
| 22:28.07 | sbu | its ~? |
| 22:28.12 | haste | yes |
| 22:28.13 | sbu | ~whalestab Neronix |
| 22:28.23 | purl | ACTION stabs Neronix with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 22:28.23 | Neronix | ~whalestab Neronix |
| 22:28.25 | purl | ACTION stabs Neronix with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 22:28.30 | sbu | laggy :o |
| 22:28.34 | kergoth | Kalamadi: hm? if you're building the kernel, you configure each and every option there is.. i dont understand the question |
| 22:29.02 | kergoth | Kalamadi: processor type has nothing to do with modules, that part of the kernel isnt modular |
| 22:29.06 | kergoth | generally speaking |
| 22:29.11 | kergoth | perhaps you're thinking of drivers? |
| 22:29.12 | Kalamadi | No, no |
| 22:29.26 | Kalamadi | hw_random is a module for a chipset feature I don't have |
| 22:30.11 | Kalamadi | I know how to prevent the module from being loaded, but I want to prevent it from ever being compiled |
| 22:30.37 | ag`_ | and you do that by setting it's option to "n" instead of "m" |
| 22:30.48 | kergoth | device drivers -> character devices -> intel/amd/via hw random number generator support |
| 22:30.53 | kergoth | like i said, drivers |
| 22:30.53 | Kalamadi | kk. |
| 22:31.42 | Kalamadi | Thankee. |
| 22:32.56 | kergoth | np |
| 22:33.15 | yacoob | Kalamadi, what's the point in compiling the kernel for your own? |
| 22:33.25 | yacoob | (except for educational purposes, or some rare patches, that is :) |
| 22:33.43 | Kalamadi | It's a laptop. |
| 22:33.55 | Plorkyeran | You aren't a real geek if you didn't compile your kernel |
| 22:34.08 | ag` | you can reduce boot up time |
| 22:34.15 | yacoob | ag`, how? :D |
| 22:34.16 | Neronix | epeen |
| 22:34.25 | Kalamadi | I need power management features and a very short bootup time |
| 22:34.25 | ag` | by disabling all the stuff you don't need yacoob |
| 22:34.42 | ag` | distros compile the kernels with very broad hardware support |
| 22:34.43 | yacoob | ag`, in good distribution kernel already has everything in modules, your point? :D |
| 22:34.48 | ag` | yeah |
| 22:34.50 | ag` | most of it |
| 22:34.54 | Neronix | 6[Your Own Custom Kernel] has +3 to epeen length |
| 22:34.55 | ag` | but some of it isn't |
| 22:34.57 | ag` | :p |
| 22:35.03 | ag` | and what Neronix said |
| 22:35.10 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:35.13 | cladhaire | hrm, i wonder if anyone has fixed the ACPI issues with the toshiba satellite L25 |
| 22:35.17 | ag` | also it lets you set your compile flags |
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| 22:35.27 | Kalamadi | "I roll 20s!" "Well, I compiled my own kernel." "=(" |
| 22:35.34 | ag` | so you can do i686 instead of i386... or something |
| 22:35.41 | yacoob | ag`, I've been thinking similar, untill I made tests. My own shiny kernel was not much faster than stock one. |
| 22:35.45 | Neronix | "Yeah, I blame the hw rng I have on my mobo!" |
| 22:35.48 | yacoob | ag`, again. Good distribution :D |
| 22:36.08 | Kalamadi | yacoob: That's not going to cut it on a laptop :P |
| 22:36.10 | cladhaire | I typically compile my freebsd kernel, becaus ei tend to need specific support. |
| 22:36.11 | yacoob | even debian has separate kernels for that :) |
| 22:36.11 | kergoth | screwing with kernel compile flags is a very, very bad idea |
| 22:36.13 | sbu | yacoob: and theres no custom "-yourname" in your kernel's name :/ |
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| 22:36.20 | yacoob | sbu, ohnoes! |
| 22:36.37 | haste | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1403.msg55538#msg55538 << explain that one to me |
| 22:36.37 | yacoob | Kalamadi, what exotic you need for your laptop? |
| 22:36.44 | haste | "width of the border"? |
| 22:36.47 | ag` | kergoth: I think it's compiled with arch and -O2 on gentoo |
| 22:36.49 | Wiki | so. noob question. does anyone have an issue with Squeenix, vChat, or ag_UnitFrames not working right on alts? |
| 22:37.10 | haste | CXXFLAGS="-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe" |
| 22:37.11 | haste | here |
| 22:37.13 | kergoth | the kernel's buildsystem already sets that stuff, ag. you dont set any flags directly |
| 22:37.17 | ag` | haste: yes |
| 22:37.21 | kergoth | CXX is c++, completely irrelevent ot the kernel |
| 22:37.26 | sbu | haste: hmm - borderstyle? |
| 22:37.30 | yacoob | playing with -O could be... harmful :D |
| 22:37.33 | haste | sbu: I'm very confused about that |
| 22:37.43 | haste | yacoob: harmful fun :D ? |
| 22:37.43 | Wiki | CXXFLAGS should be the same as CFLAGS, no? |
| 22:37.47 | sbu | thickness of that line? |
| 22:37.52 | sbu | (i guess) |
| 22:37.52 | yacoob | haste, I get the point, sure thing :) |
| 22:38.02 | ckknight | What's the difference between a surgeon and God? God doesn't think he's a surgeon. |
| 22:38.04 | yacoob | haste, it's just my needs changed over time. |
| 22:38.15 | haste | emerge -e world! |
| 22:38.18 | haste | (not recommended) |
| 22:38.25 | yacoob | haste, I have enough of dancing with naughty unices of all sort at work, at home I'd prefer something troublesome |
| 22:38.28 | Wiki | naw, -O2 is safe. -O3 is safe, but can actually be slower. |
| 22:38.41 | yacoob | to let me tackle the problems *I* want, not the problems that system brings up :D |
| 22:38.48 | haste | hehe |
| 22:38.51 | Wiki | use -march=whatever instead of -mtune=whatever. |
| 22:39.01 | kergoth | it still amuses me just how many years it took the gentoo users to wake up and smell the coffee wrt -O3 |
| 22:39.02 | yacoob | that's why Mac OSX seems tempting :) |
| 22:39.18 | sbu | haste: i think this guy just wants some 10px border around the casting bar :o |
| 22:39.33 | sbu | errr girl |
| 22:39.37 | sbu | whatever |
| 22:40.15 | ag` | -Os is better |
| 22:40.19 | ag` | http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS |
| 22:40.31 | Wiki | -Os actually breaks some packages =x |
| 22:41.13 | Wiki | -Os is only really well tested wrt the kernel. |
| 22:41.32 | ag` | it says it's good for firfox |
| 22:42.05 | Neronix | The one that compares them to ricers? :P |
| 22:42.28 | Wiki | www.fununroll-loops.org? |
| 22:42.45 | Wiki | err. www.funroll-loops.org |
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| 22:43.05 | ag` | funroll-loops |
| 22:43.12 | ag` | that page makes me crack up |
| 22:43.21 | yacoob | I think that was the one |
| 22:43.29 | Amadeo | Anyone play EVE? I need some tips :P |
| 22:43.30 | yacoob | (the title rings the bell :) |
| 22:43.44 | Wiki | seems to be dead =\ |
| 22:43.44 | weab | be prepared to be bored. |
| 22:43.55 | weab | go stare at a rock and mine for 8 hours |
| 22:44.07 | Amadeo | I know how it works, I'm only playing the free trial |
| 22:44.08 | Amadeo | :P |
| 22:44.13 | yacoob | google cache for the rescue |
| 22:44.15 | Neronix | Don't give money to player-run banks? |
| 22:44.26 | Amadeo | I just need to know how to make a good char |
| 22:44.28 | Wiki | hadn't thought of that yacoob =] |
| 22:44.28 | Amadeo | too confusing |
| 22:44.32 | Amadeo | it doesn't even explain what stats do |
| 22:44.44 | weab | it's hard to make a bad character |
| 22:44.47 | yacoob | Wiki, I had a really interesting case involving webarchive... :) |
| 22:45.07 | gxam | charisma is useless |
| 22:45.26 | weab | yes, with the exception of charisma |
| 22:45.33 | Wiki | hehe, I mean, I'm as much a gentoo fanboi as the next guy, but I'm not retarded wrt linux =p |
| 22:45.34 | weab | avoid charisma and you're fine |
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| 22:45.58 | Wiki | but; back to my noob question. Does anyone have any issues with Squeenix, vChat, or ag_UnitFrames on alts? |
| 22:45.59 | Amadeo | well, what about the schools and other skill things? |
| 22:46.02 | ag` | gcc haste.c -funroll-loops |
| 22:46.05 | Amadeo | I think I picked too much gunnery or something |
| 22:46.20 | weab | nah. it won't make a difference in the long run |
| 22:46.35 | Wiki | whenever I log on any characters other than my main, those mods don't work =\ |
| 22:46.42 | Wiki | it's killing me. |
| 22:46.44 | Amadeo | weab: Long run = 7 days |
| 22:46.45 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 22:46.47 | ag` | Wiki: I'ved used all threee together and I didn't have trouble... |
| 22:46.48 | yacoob | Fun! Roll Loops! |
| 22:46.54 | ag` | make sure they're enabled for all chars |
| 22:47.14 | weab | Amadeo: you can't accomplish much of anything in 7 days, so it doesn't much matter what you pick :P |
| 22:47.24 | CIA-17 | 03caldar * r15194 10FuBar_KCIFu/ (KCIFu.lua KCIFuLocale-deDE.lua KCIFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_KCIFu : Updated to use AceLocal 2.2 |
| 22:47.24 | Wiki | yeah, I do too- on my main. but they don't work on my alts; even if it's a diff account. |
| 22:47.24 | Amadeo | weab: True |
| 22:48.21 | yacoob | New [k]ubuntu should be out today. Yum. |
| 22:48.34 | ag` | but gnome > kde :( |
| 22:48.42 | ag` | yes, I have been a long time fan of kde |
| 22:48.53 | yacoob | ag`, what's > in gnome? |
| 22:49.02 | ag` | polish |
| 22:49.08 | yacoob | unroll your loop :) |
| 22:49.17 | ag` | after I got used to using my mac I prefer gnome |
| 22:49.24 | ckknight | I prefer Gnome over KDE |
| 22:49.34 | ag` | the defaults are a lot more sane |
| 22:49.44 | yacoob | when I last tested it 2 years ago, kde had better integration (between various parts of it) and gnome had better IME |
| 22:50.06 | ag` | Gnome seems pretty well integrated to me |
| 22:50.22 | ag` | well it doesn't have the stuff where it can take displays from different programs |
| 22:50.33 | kergoth | i much preferred kde long ago |
| 22:50.35 | ag` | like open a text editor in a tab in konqueror |
| 22:50.41 | kergoth | but since then there's been the work done by freedesktop.org, among other things |
| 22:50.45 | kergoth | standardization |
| 22:50.59 | ag` | also |
| 22:51.08 | ag` | I prefer my OK button at the right side :D! |
| 22:51.27 | ckknight | yes, okay is good |
| 22:51.30 | ckknight | and I'm right-handed |
| 22:51.33 | ckknight | not wrong-handed. |
| 22:51.37 | ag` | hah. |
| 22:51.44 | ag` | I am left handed but use the mouse in the right one |
| 22:51.56 | ckknight | hehe ;-) |
| 22:52.00 | Neronix | Hm, this is making me thing |
| 22:52.06 | ag` | So I can uhm... Write stuff down on paper while browsing/gaming |
| 22:52.09 | Neronix | s/thing/think/ |
| 22:52.17 | Neronix | g and k are like, right next to each other ;P |
| 22:52.20 | ag` | or type easier with the other hand on the mouse |
| 22:52.27 | ckknight | I can use my mouse in my left hand without much issue |
| 22:52.35 | ag` | yeah |
| 22:52.48 | Neronix | What's OSX like compared to windows? Anyone know about running it on a PC? |
| 22:52.48 | ckknight | I still prefer my right hand, though :-P |
| 22:52.56 | ag` | Sucks OSes doesn't support multi pointers |
| 22:53.00 | ag` | I'd like to have two mice |
| 22:53.04 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 22:53.13 | ckknight | you can, if you want to use one cursor |
| 22:53.13 | ag` | Neronix: you can't without breaking it a lot |
| 22:53.18 | ckknight | but you can't have multi-cursors |
| 22:53.29 | yacoob | Neronix, I do. |
| 22:53.41 | Neronix | ag`: What breaks? |
| 22:53.44 | ag` | I think I saw a multicursor video |
| 22:53.44 | yacoob | I actually ran it for two weeks, pretty smoothly, with few glitches. |
| 22:54.02 | ag` | Neronix: you have to hack some kernel modules, which means the stuff will break if you try and use auto update. |
| 22:54.14 | ag` | also a lot of hardware won't work |
| 22:54.27 | yacoob | ag`, in fact, it's the most basic thing |
| 22:54.29 | Neronix | ow |
| 22:54.37 | yacoob | to have hw as close as possible to apple's |
| 22:54.39 | Neronix | guess I'll never get to use it |
| 22:54.44 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15195 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs: Options: Change to Alt metakey for disabling modules/core. Drycoded. |
| 22:55.02 | yacoob | Neronix, visit http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 22:55.02 | ag` | yacoob: not even, only specific models of gfx cards work |
| 22:55.13 | ag` | you can get one x1600 working but another one won't |
| 22:55.16 | yacoob | ag`, it depends on the chipset :) |
| 22:55.23 | yacoob | ok, I'll tell what I have |
| 22:55.49 | ag` | some will be able to switch resolutions and others won't, some won't get Quartz Extreme enabled |
| 22:55.53 | yacoob | radeon 9600 (hercules chip AFAIR), intel 2.4, wmp54g wifi card |
| 22:56.13 | ag` | also nvidia cards doesn't work at all |
| 22:56.17 | yacoob | (wifi on ralink, not broadcom chipset) |
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| 22:56.22 | ag` | well they do, but not for a lot |
| 22:56.26 | yacoob | there are some drivers, not sure about the quality |
| 22:56.34 | yacoob | anyway, everything WORKED |
| 22:56.34 | ag` | I don't think you can use them for gaming |
| 22:56.56 | yacoob | got two glitches: minor artifacts on each click (you get used to it :) |
| 22:57.13 | ag` | some cards doesn |
| 22:57.16 | ag` | get those |
| 22:57.27 | yacoob | and total breakage of the cursor (the sprite in fact) after running any fullscreen 3d app |
| 22:57.37 | yacoob | apart from that - it was working fine |
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| 22:57.46 | ag` | do you have Quartz Extreme? |
| 22:57.53 | yacoob | and I had more problems confronting my usage model with apple's |
| 22:57.57 | yacoob | yup. And core image |
| 22:57.59 | ag` | ok |
| 22:58.31 | Neronix | Hm, looks too risky to run it as a primary OS |
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| 22:58.34 | Neronix | I'll pass |
| 22:58.35 | pastamancer | wouldn't it be easier to just buy a mac pro? |
| 22:58.55 | Neronix | I'm not buying new hardwareI don't have much of a say in solely to try an OS I might not even like |
| 22:58.56 | yacoob | Neronix, well, I also said "nooo, not like that" |
| 22:59.14 | yacoob | Neronix, but it's really good way of testing, provided it will start up on your box |
| 22:59.16 | Neronix | pastamancer: The base specs for those are too good |
| 22:59.24 | pastamancer | lol |
| 22:59.32 | Neronix | mjc gets 150fps in IF |
| 22:59.44 | Neronix | I don't have £1500 gbp to spend :P |
| 22:59.54 | pastamancer | I love the macbook I got from work. my next desktop will probably be a mac |
| 23:00.18 | yacoob | the only problem with mac is that you need *better* spec to have the same WoW performance :D |
| 23:00.42 | ag` | It's the drivers and openGL performance |
| 23:00.50 | yacoob | and the prices are... well, sometimes quite unrealistic. |
| 23:00.58 | ag` | it's going to rock with the OpenGL 2.1 patch |
| 23:01.12 | vhaarr | TBC is not OGL 2.1? |
| 23:01.15 | ag` | yacoob: compare the macbook pro to a similar dell... the prices are the same |
| 23:01.18 | ckknight | I want 150fps in IF... |
| 23:01.20 | yacoob | that's true. |
| 23:01.29 | ag` | vhaarr: yes, but Mac OS isn't yet |
| 23:01.32 | ag` | windows isn't either |
| 23:01.38 | yacoob | and provided I have enough stack of gold, I'll probably buy myself some mac in the future |
| 23:01.47 | yacoob | now with intel under hood, I have freedom of OS :D |
| 23:01.47 | ag` | well I guess that's up to the driver vendor |
| 23:01.49 | vhaarr | ag`: But TBC will be before release? |
| 23:02.04 | ag` | vhaarr: yes |
| 23:02.09 | vhaarr | naet |
| 23:02.11 | vhaarr | *neat |
| 23:02.11 | ag` | but Mac OS X still need new drivers |
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| 23:02.32 | ag` | I think it was either in 10.4.8 for Mac Pros |
| 23:02.43 | ag` | or maybe it's when 10.5 is released |
| 23:02.48 | ag` | can't remember |
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| 23:03.33 | vhaarr | "You gain No Man's Land.", that buff rocks :P |
| 23:03.59 | ckknight | what's No Man's Land? |
| 23:04.24 | vhaarr | A buff that says "You are where you should not be ..." with a Blizzard logo for icon, and you get ported to a safe haven (city) after 3 sec. |
| 23:04.30 | vhaarr | when you trespass :) |
| 23:04.44 | Tem | you get it when you go places that they don't want you to be in |
| 23:04.50 | ag` | hm, that's not cool :( |
| 23:04.55 | Neronix | Even when dead? |
| 23:05.02 | Tem | yes |
| 23:05.26 | Neronix | And it's a buff (As in, you can right click the icon to get rid of it)? |
| 23:05.34 | yacoob | Tem, what kind of places? |
| 23:05.45 | ckknight | Hyjal? |
| 23:05.47 | Tem | Shadowmoon Valley |
| 23:05.50 | Neronix | yacoob: I'm guessing Hyjal and the empty spaces between continents |
| 23:05.52 | yacoob | I've been there, no buff. |
| 23:05.55 | Tem | Blade's Edge Mountains |
| 23:05.59 | Tem | I have too |
| 23:06.04 | Tem | but they closed it off not that long ago |
| 23:06.10 | Tem | same with BE |
| 23:06.36 | ag` | need to figureo out how to hide focus frame |
| 23:06.36 | sbu | mhh, but that island in tanaris is really nice :o |
| 23:06.42 | ag` | what's the name of the BC focus frame? |
| 23:06.50 | sbu | any1 been there? |
| 23:07.03 | sbu | (aq opening quest chain) |
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| 23:07.38 | vhaarr | The one with the goblin female in some swimming suit or what it is? |
| 23:07.45 | Tem | ag`: there is no default focus frame |
| 23:07.55 | Tem | the only way you'd have one is from an addon |
| 23:08.09 | ckknight | fun |
| 23:08.35 | ag` | Tem: yes there is a focus frame.. |
| 23:08.41 | Tem | no, there is not |
| 23:08.42 | ag` | it has a white glow |
| 23:08.43 | banditron | Is it possible to parse your own GameTooltip without xml? |
| 23:08.51 | Neronix | Yeah |
| 23:08.57 | Tem | oh balls |
| 23:08.58 | Wiki | yes |
| 23:09.02 | Tem | they added that without me knowing >< |
| 23:09.02 | Neronix | It's even easier to use Gratuity |
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| 23:09.17 | ag` | Tem: shoot first, ask questions later |
| 23:09.23 | Wiki | gratuity does that? I must investigate. |
| 23:09.23 | Tem | sorry lol |
| 23:09.28 | Tem | there wasn't one last time I checked |
| 23:09.46 | Tem | and when we asked slouken, we got a "no, and there's no plans" answer |
| 23:10.00 | Tem | *shrug* plans change :) |
| 23:10.19 | Tem | ooh, I wonder if it uses what I think it uses |
| 23:10.54 | banditron | pssh yah. Gratuity looks like what i want |
| 23:11.19 | yacoob | last.fm makes one wonder |
| 23:11.29 | Neebler | wonder about what? |
| 23:11.30 | Wiki | heh. I really only parse tooltips for a bunch of mods that are getting banned in 2.0 anyway. =[ fuck it. |
| 23:11.31 | yacoob | "music similar to era and enigma" --> Apocalyptyca |
| 23:11.45 | Neebler | I have some of their songs |
| 23:11.56 | Wiki | apocalyptica is pretty cool. |
| 23:12.05 | kergoth | mmm era |
| 23:12.06 | yacoob | but I see no connection whatsoever :D |
| 23:12.08 | Wiki | they got really fruity once they started adding singers though =\ |
| 23:12.30 | [FH]Birdemani | htey have singers now? |
| 23:12.35 | Neebler | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/katygyo/what%20the%20funke/IMG_0120.jpg |
| 23:12.40 | Wiki | last album(s) I guess. |
| 23:12.40 | Neebler | :P |
| 23:12.52 | Wiki | I have a few songs from them with vocals. and they all suck. |
| 23:13.08 | ckknight | lol, Neebler |
| 23:13.15 | yacoob | I got poisoned with Apocalyptyca, after a 5h drive, when only thing we got to listen was one Apocalyptyca album... |
| 23:13.42 | Wiki | lmfao neebler. too good. |
| 23:14.16 | Tem | ag`: I know I wasn't crazy |
| 23:14.26 | Tem | ag`, the "FocusFrame" you see is NOT a focus frame |
| 23:14.29 | Tem | it's the TargetFrame |
| 23:14.44 | Tem | which aparently has a white glow when you're targetting your focus |
| 23:14.50 | ag` | aha |
| 23:14.56 | ag` | didn't know |
| 23:15.01 | ag` | I have target frame hidden |
| 23:15.06 | ag` | but it pop up when you have a focus |
| 23:15.18 | yacoob | Argh! Celine Dion! |
| 23:15.24 | yacoob | *changes keywords* |
| 23:19.01 | ag` | kergoth: ckknight: if I have a class, which registers an event to a method, then have a subclass of that class which registers same event to another method, will both methods fire for the object that inherits subclass? |
| 23:20.12 | ckknight | classese don't register events |
| 23:20.12 | kergoth | hm? the aceevent mixin puts its methods in the prototype, not the class itself. you register events on your object, not the class. |
| 23:20.12 | ckknight | classes* |
| 23:20.14 | ckknight | right. |
| 23:20.26 | Neronix | both methods will fire |
| 23:20.30 | ag` | I know, but I have self:registerEvent in the prototype |
| 23:20.39 | Neronix | because they are 2 different objects |
| 23:20.39 | ag` | so yes, the objects registers the events |
| 23:21.05 | kergoth | then dont say the class registers it. it does not. the class provides a constructor that does. |
| 23:21.13 | ag` | sovvy:o |
| 23:21.20 | Neronix | Class = factory |
| 23:21.25 | Neronix | object = object |
| 23:21.34 | ag` | class and subclass has self:RegisterEvent("someevent") in prototype methods |
| 23:21.36 | Neronix | or something that comes out the factory |
| 23:21.42 | Neronix | that's how I remember it at least :P |
| 23:21.49 | ag` | but there's a different method on each RegisterEvent |
| 23:21.53 | ag` | that's my question |
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| 23:22.38 | ag` | in class I have self:RegisterEvent("RRU","method1") |
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| 23:22.41 | kergoth | "prototype methods" is still unclear, you can provide any method you want, that doesnt mean the method is called |
| 23:22.47 | kergoth | if you mean the constructor, say the constructor |
| 23:23.04 | kergoth | but yes, they should both be called, assuming both constructors are called |
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| 23:23.20 | ag` | It seems that they're not |
| 23:23.32 | ckknight | I like to call em static methods and object methods |
| 23:24.06 | kergoth | you still have to call the parent class constructor in your child class's constructor if you override it, no? |
| 23:24.09 | Neronix | ag`: If you do subclass:new(), would the event be registered for twice? |
| 23:24.13 | kergoth | and if you dont do that, the parent's registerevent wouldnt happen |
| 23:24.16 | Neronix | if so, only one will fire |
| 23:24.28 | Neronix | you can't register for an event twice with the same object |
| 23:24.39 | ag` | aha, that answers my question |
| 23:24.56 | ag` | can't register two methods for same event, ok. |
| 23:25.01 | ag` | on same object |
| 23:25.32 | ag` | will the new registerEvent override the old one, or will nothing happen? |
| 23:25.50 | Neronix | the second would override the first iirc |
| 23:26.27 | ag` | strange |
| 23:26.34 | yacoob | http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats.htm :D |
| 23:28.00 | Neronix | I bet £1500 that at least one of those came from 4chan |
| 23:28.35 | yacoob | doesn't everything come from 4chan? |
| 23:28.51 | yacoob | "Gold doesn't come from leprechauns? No. Gold comes from China." |
| 23:28.58 | Neronix | There goes my idea to get money for a mac pro >.> |
| 23:29.15 | yacoob | raise a fund |
| 23:29.38 | Neronix | "Extend Nero's epeen! <insert paypal link here>" |
| 23:30.39 | yacoob | "Gief Shiny Fund!" |
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| 23:31.35 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15196 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - hooks are now secure. |
| 23:33.04 | yacoob | Heh. |
| 23:33.34 | ag` | Neronix: is it trouble to get an object to register two different methods to one event? |
| 23:33.45 | yacoob | Just realized... there's no point in going over 2 with -O2. So, what do users of gentoo gain, apart from -march? :D |
| 23:34.05 | Wiki | use flags. |
| 23:34.09 | ag` | it's not a big deal, but just wanted to know |
| 23:34.21 | Neronix | ag`: hm, dunno |
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| 23:34.29 | Neronix | I'd think about it, but I desperately need sleep |
| 23:34.33 | ag` | it would just make my code cleaner |
| 23:34.36 | Wiki | gentoo doesn't install unnecessary libs. pretty much it. |
| 23:34.45 | ag` | sure, not pushing you to do anything *now* |
| 23:34.49 | yacoob | Wiki, you mean, this set of tags that influences the set of features package is built with? |
| 23:34.51 | ag` | it's not very important |
| 23:34.57 | Wiki | yes |
| 23:35.16 | yacoob | then I'd say that gentoo makes pretty good room-warmers... |
| 23:36.13 | Wiki | I use gentoo because I'm comfortable with it. it really isn't any better than other distro's. =p |
| 23:37.01 | pastamancer | let me know how much you like gentoo the next time you need to recompile xorg :p |
| 23:37.13 | Wiki | *shrug* takes 30 minutes. |
| 23:37.25 | Kalamadi | *nodnod* |
| 23:37.25 | Wiki | I don't use linux on my main system anyway. |
| 23:38.33 | mjc | blah |
| 23:38.37 | Zeryl | what's the easiest way to migrate from libraries in the addon\libs\* directory, to just the stand-alone libraries? |
| 23:38.38 | mjc | I'm so lazy. |
| 23:38.39 | Wiki | seriously, I'm comfortable with portage and rc-update. I'm not going to switch distro's because it's slow at updating. |
| 23:39.26 | yacoob | Wiki, in other words, you don't mind your time being wasted. |
| 23:39.40 | yacoob | wait, not right word |
| 23:39.45 | yacoob | I don't mean it to sound negative |
| 23:39.49 | Wiki | umm. it doesn't waste any of my time. it wastes my cpu cycles |
| 23:39.59 | Wiki | which I don't give a shit about. |
| 23:40.02 | yacoob | hm... you put your time elsewhere :D |
| 23:40.29 | yacoob | it doesn't take your time? Everything happen in the background? Never had a broken compile? package? had to reverse something? |
| 23:40.39 | sylvanaar | is the the same distro chat from this morning? |
| 23:40.46 | Kalamadi | Probably |
| 23:40.52 | Kalamadi | It's all my fault and I'm not even involved. |
| 23:40.54 | yacoob | it's like putting apt-get update && apt-get upgrade into cron |
| 23:40.58 | kergoth | the gentoo folks have some good ideas.. which end up in horrible implementations |
| 23:41.05 | Wiki | ehh... every now and then. |
| 23:41.07 | kergoth | debian folks are less innovative, but the stuff does work mostly |
| 23:41.28 | Wiki | seriously, I don't tell people who are getting into linux to get into gentoo |
| 23:41.30 | yacoob | on stable it's wonderful, on testing it's a bit dangerous, on unstable it's for those that are craving for adventure, on experimental it's for retards :D |
| 23:41.42 | Wiki | I tell them to get into ubuntu or uhh. |
| 23:41.46 | yacoob | Wiki, nah, I'm just trying to get the mindset of gentoo users :) |
| 23:41.49 | CIA-17 | 03ag 07TBC * r15197 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:41.50 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 23:41.50 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.52 | kergoth | i use -certain- things from experimental only, and only on my workstation, not my severs |
| 23:41.58 | kergoth | servers, even |
| 23:41.59 | leech2k | gentoo is great for people that want a lfs solution but are to lazy |
| 23:42.08 | pastamancer | haha, nice commit notes ag` |
| 23:42.20 | yacoob | I'll be switching from debian to [k]ubuntu probably |
| 23:42.27 | yacoob | reasons stated above in backlog :D |
| 23:42.36 | leech2k | suse is looking really good these days |
| 23:42.47 | yacoob | (with keeping most of my boxes on debian "rock" stable :) |
| 23:42.57 | leech2k | but I will probaly keep running slack on my personal computer |
| 23:42.57 | Wiki | yeah, I don't keep up to date on which distro is getting the most hyped about whatever etc. |
| 23:43.09 | leech2k | ubuntu is all the hype these days |
| 23:43.15 | leech2k | gentoo has died down :-) |
| 23:43.21 | yacoob | it is? I'll be jazzy! :D |
| 23:43.23 | Wiki | I only used gentoo in the first place because at one point in the time it was the only distro with gcc 3.x support. |
| 23:43.29 | Wiki | since then, it's just been inertia |
| 23:43.35 | Wiki | I don't feel like switching =x |
| 23:43.54 | leech2k | gentoo is nice, but emerge does break things sometimes :-( |
| 23:44.00 | yacoob | Wiki, and what did you need the gcc3 for? |
| 23:44.15 | leech2k | Gentoo is the best platform for linux gaming imo |
| 23:44.16 | Zeryl | i don't know that i've had as many breakages w/ emerge as i have w/ rpm or apt-get |
| 23:44.31 | Wiki | showeq. |
| 23:44.51 | leech2k | hmm ya I use slack |
| 23:44.57 | Wiki | raq was a nazi, and only released code that compiled on gcc 3 |
| 23:45.02 | leech2k | no rpm, apt, or emerge |
| 23:45.24 | leech2k | just good ol tgz |
| 23:45.38 | pastamancer | Wiki: surely you mean ratt |
| 23:45.41 | leech2k | and lots of configure make make install |
| 23:45.44 | Wiki | yeah! him |
| 23:45.57 | Wiki | was a few years ago heh |
| 23:46.09 | pastamancer | I was glad when Zaphod took over development |
| 23:46.09 | [FH]Birdemani | someone tell me what FOCUS from TBC is |
| 23:46.26 | Kalamadi | It's like...another target |
| 23:46.32 | Wiki | I might not have been around when someone took over; that or not paid attention |
| 23:46.39 | Kalamadi | Say you're healing your friendly doodz, but don't want to lose your PVP target |
| 23:46.48 | Kalamadi | I think you can switch target and focus on the fly and stuff. |
| 23:46.56 | pastamancer | the 5.x branch was Zaphod |
| 23:47.09 | kergoth | slackware.. ah memories.. installing linux off of floppies |
| 23:47.34 | Wiki | it sounds like way beyond my time. I quit before the level cap upped to 70. |
| 23:47.51 | pastamancer | ah, yeah IIRC it was during PoP |
| 23:48.03 | yacoob | kergoth, you mean those funny square plastic thingies that dinosaurs used to transport between caves? :D |
| 23:48.04 | Zeryl | Anyone know what's up with Bigwigs? Seems to be broken from SVN |
| 23:48.10 | Wiki | I may have quit during the transition. |
| 23:48.47 | kergoth | yacoob: yea, they made better throwing weapons than storage though ;) |
| 23:49.04 | leech2k | they failed entirely to often |
| 23:49.12 | leech2k | and so slow..... |
| 23:49.27 | yacoob | *tfwwoop* "Black floppies! So, the ninjas know about me..." |
| 23:50.11 | sbu | "hah! new 24 floppy game! lets copy them over.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOO #20 has crc errors" :/ |
| 23:50.22 | Wiki | anyway, was anyone still wondering about gentoo or just gave up? I'm perfectly willing to help out people who are just starting on the distro. it is a steep learning curve and all. |
| 23:50.41 | Kalamadi | Wiki: It's mainly the kernel stuff |
| 23:50.48 | Kalamadi | Which I started dealing with some 12 hours ago |
| 23:50.56 | leech2k | hey did they ever release images, so you dont have to take 24hours to install it? |
| 23:51.01 | Wiki | heh, which parts? |
| 23:51.14 | Kalamadi | Wiki: Getting ACPI/suspend support for my lappy |
| 23:51.19 | Kalamadi | leech2k: Yeah, they have binaries you can install |
| 23:51.20 | Wiki | oh. fuck laptops =\ |
| 23:51.22 | yacoob | Wiki, not me :> |
| 23:51.37 | leech2k | Kalamadi: Sweet I heard they were going too. |
| 23:51.58 | Kalamadi | In fact, with the latest, I think you can *only* do a binary install...which is sorta fucked |
| 23:52.00 | Wiki | they've always had stage3 installs or whatever, so you don't have to bootstrap |
| 23:52.06 | leech2k | Kalamadi: ACPI suspend works great in suse :-) and so do ipods |
| 23:52.09 | Zeryl | yes, stage3 is all that's "supported" now |
| 23:52.27 | Amadeo | What's wrong with a laptop? |
| 23:52.28 | leech2k | Kalamadi: Wow, that was the coolest thing about gentoo was compiling everything from source |
| 23:52.45 | Wiki | laptops always break. they're not durable. |
| 23:52.48 | Kalamadi | leech2k: It's not like I'm *not* doing that |
| 23:52.50 | leech2k | Zeryl: Still like the old stage3 without X and all though? |
| 23:52.52 | Amadeo | Isn't that the only reason someone would install Gentoo? |
| 23:52.53 | Kalamadi | Wiki: I've got a Thinkpad |
| 23:53.04 | Amadeo | Who would even want Gentoo if you couldn't compile it all |
| 23:53.06 | Zeryl | ya, last install i did din't have ANY x or anything (which was good) |
| 23:53.08 | Wiki | lol, I will never trust a laptop to do anything important. |
| 23:53.21 | Amadeo | Wiki: Laptops can be stable, you just have to buy the right ones |
| 23:53.24 | Kalamadi | Wiki: I trust my laptop to run without being plugged in. |
| 23:53.37 | Amadeo | Don't go buy an Averatec and expect it to be good :P |
| 23:54.16 | Wiki | I've seen thinkpads die, I've seen dells die (of course) I've seen generic brands die. (of course) |
| 23:54.17 | vhaarr | Zeryl: Broken how? |
| 23:54.19 | Wiki | I don't trust laptops. |
| 23:54.23 | ag` | I'm getting a Macbook Pro :-) |
| 23:54.37 | ag` | I like Mac OS so |
| 23:54.44 | ag` | it should be very good for WoW as well |
| 23:54.51 | Amadeo | Wiki: What are you doing on a laptop that you can't trust? |
| 23:54.55 | yacoob | provided you stuff it with ram :> |
| 23:54.56 | pastamancer | I'll be getting a mbp when 10.5 comes out |
| 23:55.05 | ag` | I think the applications available for Mac OS are very nice |
| 23:55.07 | yacoob | Don't trust laptops. Those are sneaky bastards. |
| 23:55.10 | Wiki | paying $1500-$2k for one? |
| 23:55.21 | yacoob | ag`, as long as you fit the apple's model of usage |
| 23:55.22 | ag` | pastamancer: me too probably.. |
| 23:55.23 | Zeryl | it's not, I was wrong, I have/had issues with libraries not downloading at all, even though they should have been |
| 23:55.25 | Zeryl | and no errors |
| 23:55.28 | Amadeo | for a good laptop, that's decent |
| 23:55.29 | yacoob | there are some things that simply... annoy me |
| 23:55.51 | pastamancer | ag`: the virtual desktop program I use isn't a universal binary and I can't live without them, so it's a g4 pbook until then |
| 23:56.08 | ag` | Wiki: if you want one that can run games and have 2gb, 2000 dollars doesn't seem wrong (at least here in denmark) |
| 23:56.14 | leech2k | I would get a mac if they cost about 50% of what they do for the same hardware. |
| 23:56.27 | Wiki | virtually every laptop I've ever known of has failed eventually. the only one I've seen that survived any period of time is a thinkpad. |
| 23:56.41 | Amadeo | I think Lenovo turned that line into junk |
| 23:56.42 | ag` | pastamancer: you mean so you have like 4 desktops, like on other unix DEs? |
| 23:56.49 | pastamancer | ag`: exactly |
| 23:56.59 | Zeryl | pastamancer: KoL much? |
| 23:57.01 | leech2k | Get one of the 3year warranties from like Best Buy. |
| 23:57.01 | yacoob | pastamancer, there's nice virtual desktops for intel macs |
| 23:57.13 | pastamancer | Zeryl: used to :p |
| 23:57.14 | ag` | leech2k: compare the macbook pro to an equal spec Dell, it's the same price |
| 23:57.16 | leech2k | They replace a motherboard, 2 batteries, and power adapter for me free. |
| 23:57.17 | Zeryl | hehe |
| 23:57.28 | Amadeo | I'm interested in the Macbooks too |
| 23:57.31 | pastamancer | yacoob: oh? I use desktop manager and development stopped on it a while back |
| 23:57.37 | ag` | macbook pros are simply not that more expensive than pcs any longer. it's a myth |
| 23:57.40 | ckknight | I want a MacBook Pro |
| 23:57.49 | Amadeo | However, Intel keeps pushing out new chip designs |
| 23:57.53 | Wiki | I could do that, or pay the same amount of money on a desktop that's twice as fast, and use the money I saved on the warantee on replacement parts. |
| 23:57.57 | vhaarr | ckknight: Is there any way to control the width of the columns in Tablet-2.0? |
| 23:57.57 | yacoob | http://osx.iusethis.com/app/virtuedesktops |
| 23:58.01 | leech2k | ag`: Compaq/HP that will play WoW is much cheaper than a Mac that will. |
| 23:58.02 | ag` | Amadeo: there's nothing to do about that |
| 23:58.11 | Amadeo | ag`: I know, it's just hard! |
| 23:58.14 | ag` | leech2k: play it yes, but I am talking about equal spec |
| 23:58.15 | yacoob | pastamancer, also check out http://osx.iusethis.com/user/yacoob from my 2 weeks of using a hackintosh :) |
| 23:58.20 | Amadeo | Intel has Quad Core coming next month already |
| 23:58.26 | Amadeo | not for laptops, but still |
| 23:58.32 | ckknight | vhaarr, mmm... not really, they fill to the appropriate length. |
| 23:58.37 | vhaarr | ckknight: hm |
| 23:58.38 | ag` | Amadeo: it's not a true dual core, so don't expect it in laptops for a long time |
| 23:58.41 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oraub0.png this looks bad. |
| 23:58.46 | Wiki | does wow even support dual cores yet? |
| 23:58.49 | leech2k | ag`: All make fanatics try to make that argument, but it simply isn't true. |
| 23:59.06 | ag` | Wiki: OpenGL will from version 2.1, this means when Mac OS 10.5 is out |
| 23:59.15 | Amadeo | leech2k: You have to compare prefabricated computer prices, not components |
| 23:59.24 | Amadeo | You can build a PC cheaper, that will always be true |
| 23:59.28 | ckknight | vhaarr, because you have a wrapping hint, it expands to the minimap wrapping width, basically. |
| 23:59.36 | vhaarr | ckknight: aha |
| 23:59.36 | Zeryl | can I change an addon to look for AceHook-2.1 instead of 2.0 without issue? |
| 23:59.37 | leech2k | Amadeo: I guess I have never really bought a prefab |
| 23:59.53 | yacoob | time for old-fashioned sleep |
| 23:59.56 | ag` | Take a look at a 2.33ghz Core 2 laptop with 2gb ram and 256 video memory |
| 23:59.59 | vhaarr | ckknight: well, can I control that somehow? |
