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| 00:00.51 | Xuerian | Ok, performance quiz. Which is faster: (UnitExists("party1") or UnitExists("raid1")), or (GetNumPartyMembers() > 0 or GetNumRaidMembers() > 0). Short of that, what's the lightest way to detect if you're in a group or not? :p |
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| 00:01.18 | eternally777 | UnitIsInRaid("player")? |
| 00:01.27 | eternally777 | I don't think that's it exactly |
| 00:01.36 | chuckg | GetNumPartyMembers() |
| 00:01.45 | chuckg | Anything not nil is the a group. |
| 00:01.57 | chuckg | Nil or 0 I guess. |
| 00:01.58 | Xuerian | That even counts if you're in a empty raid group? |
| 00:03.20 | chuckg | The return would be 1. |
| 00:03.21 | usz | you cant be in empty raid group |
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| 00:03.28 | usz | raid group = 2+ |
| 00:03.28 | Xuerian | subgroup :P |
| 00:03.29 | Xuerian | Anyway, thanks chuckg. |
| 00:04.15 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r15049 10Ace2/Ace2/ (AceHook-2.1/AceHook-2.1.lua AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua): Ace2 - added svn:keywords to AceLocale-2.2 and AceHook-2.1 |
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| 00:06.30 | CIA-17 | 03xinsonic * r15050 10sRaidFrames/localization.zhTW.lua: sRaidFrames: updated zhTW |
| 00:10.09 | eternally777 | gah.. I'm trying to install subversion on my linux laptop, but I keep getting an error about the address being an unrecognized URL scheme |
| 00:10.33 | [FH]Birdemani | hrm, if you type /autobar it says "error loading autobarconfig. make sure you ahve it and it is enabled |
| 00:10.37 | eternally777 | The subversion website says that that means I'm missing some libraries or something, but I don't know how to fix it.. |
| 00:10.58 | eternally777 | [FH]Birdemani: You need to get the AutoBarConfig addon off of the SVN as well |
| 00:11.46 | [FH]Birdemani | odd that isnt part of the zip file |
| 00:12.39 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15051 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - possibly fix true/false map issues. |
| 00:12.51 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r15052 10Ace2/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - possibly fix true/false map issues. |
| 00:16.05 | kergoth | [FH]Birdemani: its a seperate addon. download the autobarconfig zip too i'd expect |
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| 00:17.24 | CIA-17 | 03ag 07TBC * r15053 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: |
| 00:17.24 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 00:17.24 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:25.05 | Fudge | Ugh.. got these MC trash mob respawn timers and I can't find where to turn 'em off. |
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| 00:27.29 | kergoth | that would be bigwigs_respawntimers, its nice, but needs a way to hide the bars, doesnt have one currently afaik |
| 00:28.40 | vhaarr | I just added one a few days ago |
| 00:28.43 | vhaarr | ctrl+click the bar |
| 00:29.31 | kergoth | oh sweet |
| 00:29.38 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:30.49 | Fudge | There's a Respawn Timers submenu under BigWigs Extras that has a checkmarks for Messages and Bars, but toggling them does nothing. ;P |
| 00:31.05 | Tain | Your mom needs a respawn timer. |
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| 00:31.50 | Fudge | D: |
| 00:31.54 | Unrealii | hi |
| 00:32.05 | Unrealii | good morning :) |
| 00:33.21 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15054 10cyCircled/ (8 files in 2 dirs): cyCircled - Add WindAction module, update koKR |
| 00:33.44 | Damjau | hi~ |
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| 00:37.35 | MentalPower|HW | why are you at war with tables? |
| 00:37.50 | Xuerian | Because garbage is my enemy. |
| 00:38.04 | Xuerian | And this is embed #2 I'm adding to combat it >_< |
| 00:38.18 | MentalPower|HW | right... |
| 00:38.33 | MentalPower|HW | strings create garbage too |
| 00:38.40 | Xuerian | Don't say that =( |
| 00:38.42 | MentalPower|HW | and anyways Lua 5.1 is comming |
| 00:39.04 | MentalPower|HW | they do :) |
| 00:39.05 | Xuerian | I can only stab so many things at once ._. |
| 00:39.57 | MentalPower|HW | be freed from stabbing, Lua 5.1 is your saviour |
| 00:40.31 | Xuerian | Question is then... Force Compost into service as well, or just wait for 5.1? :P |
| 00:40.45 | MentalPower|HW | just wait for 5.1 |
| 00:40.54 | MentalPower|HW | at least thats my motto |
| 00:41.10 | Xuerian | Works for me. |
| 00:41.31 | MentalPower|HW | I still re-use tables whenever possible, but I'm not worrying too much about it ATM |
| 00:42.05 | Xuerian | Yep... Though I'll probably get yelled at again for the way I'm doing it >_> |
| 00:42.35 | MentalPower|HW | how're you doing it |
| 00:43.28 | MentalPower|HW | I do it with a simple iterator |
| 00:43.40 | Xuerian | http://ace.pastey.net/1772 is iteration 2 of the code that got me strung up last night >_> |
| 00:46.54 | MentalPower|HW | http://ace.pastey.net/1773 |
| 00:46.59 | MentalPower|HW | thats my code |
| 00:47.02 | MentalPower|HW | not unlike yours |
| 00:47.28 | MentalPower|HW | theres a "local setn = table.setn" above that |
| 00:48.42 | Tem | MentalPower|HW, key=nil is uneeded |
| 00:48.54 | MentalPower|HW | it restarts the pairs iteration |
| 00:49.02 | MentalPower|HW | I know its unnedded |
| 00:49.17 | MentalPower|HW | but curiously enough I found it on an Ace AddOn |
| 00:49.30 | Tain | Can't trust those Ace addon authors. |
| 00:49.39 | MentalPower|HW | lol |
| 00:52.12 | Xuerian | Thanks, MentalPower|HW :P |
| 00:53.06 | MentalPower|HW | :) |
| 00:54.07 | [FH]Birdemani | anyone having issues with chronometer after the last commit? Im in game so I cant grab the bug sack yet.... |
| 00:54.11 | ckknight | MentalPower|HW, incremental GC is not a good reason to abuse tables. |
| 00:54.26 | Kebinusan | [FH]Birdemani, havent noticed any |
| 00:54.46 | MentalPower|HW | however there is no need to fear them either |
| 00:54.58 | MentalPower|HW | and incremental GC makes their use more forgiving |
| 00:55.24 | MentalPower|HW | tables are not the devil, they're the only data structure of their kind in Lua |
| 00:55.30 | MentalPower|HW | you might as well use them |
| 00:58.05 | ag` | can anyone test if the latest aguf TBC branch commit runs without errors? |
| 00:59.46 | Amadeo | I'm willing to test it if someone can get me in the beta ;) |
| 00:59.48 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 01:00.52 | Kebinusan | Sure Amadeo I just need your account name and password... |
| 01:01.45 | Kebinusan | [FH]Birdemani, actually it seems I am |
| 01:03.32 | [FH]Birdemani | bunch of various errors on fade? |
| 01:03.41 | [FH]Birdemani | candy bar issues, right? |
| 01:03.48 | Kebinusan | yeah Im checking it out from dev to see if I can touch it and make it better |
| 01:04.41 | Kebinusan | course Im also having a bunch of acelocale bugs atm too, [2006/10/23 21:02:26-975]: AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua:121: attempt to call a nil value |
| 01:06.47 | Amadeo | besides chronometer, what else times spells? |
| 01:07.48 | ckknight | Every time you masturbate, Jack Thompson sues another game publisher. Please, think of the publishers. |
| 01:08.57 | Kebinusan | yeah the last commit seems to have messed up chronometer, Id just go back to 15037 for time being |
| 01:09.56 | Xuerian | rofl |
| 01:10.12 | eternally777 | What's the function to stop a spell cast? |
| 01:10.44 | Kalamadi | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:10.47 | ckknight | SpellStopCasting() |
| 01:12.18 | Kebinusan | vhaarr, your last commit to oRA2 seems to have broked it |
| 01:12.31 | ag` | probably broken in BC eternally777 |
| 01:12.47 | Kalamadi | ag`: It's a regular slash-command |
| 01:12.52 | eternally777 | yeah |
| 01:12.54 | eternally777 | i figured |
| 01:13.55 | Kebinusan | getting oRA not found! |
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| 01:17.04 | jumbali | Error: ...Ons\sRaidFrames\libs\AceLocale-2.2\AceLocale-2.2.lua:121: attempt to call a nil value |
| 01:17.09 | jumbali | what do i do to fix that? |
| 01:17.26 | Amadeo | jumbali: Do you know the Konami code? |
| 01:17.31 | jumbali | i do not |
| 01:17.35 | Amadeo | Just checking |
| 01:17.50 | jumbali | oh it sounds like im not the only one with the problem :/ |
| 01:17.52 | Kebinusan | jumbali, yeah Im getting that too but tons of times |
| 01:17.58 | jumbali | ack :/ |
| 01:18.04 | jumbali | tahts what you get from living on the bleeding edge ;) |
| 01:18.39 | jumbali | whats another simple raid frame ? |
| 01:18.53 | Kebinusan | jumbali, I dont think its srf |
| 01:18.56 | Kebinusan | Im getting it with oRA |
| 01:19.10 | jumbali | i am not getting it with ora, atm |
| 01:22.13 | ckknight | how do you people get that call a nil value thing? |
| 01:22.16 | ckknight | that's just not right. |
| 01:22.27 | jumbali | lets find the bastard taht committed this thing! |
| 01:22.28 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:22.34 | ckknight | that'd be me |
| 01:22.40 | jumbali | zomg! he's been found! |
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| 01:22.50 | Kebinusan | ckknight, Ive just started getting it since I did a last svn update |
| 01:22.56 | jumbali | rollback! |
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| 01:23.07 | ckknight | no more voice for you, Kebinusan |
| 01:23.13 | Kebinusan | hahah |
| 01:23.24 | Kalamadi | It's an abomination! |
| 01:24.21 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r15055 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - fixed :121: attempt to call a nil value |
| 01:24.22 | ag` | Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch. |
| 01:24.29 | ag` | Tell me. What do you do with witches? |
| 01:24.36 | ag` | Burn! Burn them up! Burn!... |
| 01:24.43 | jumbali | fixT?! |
| 01:24.52 | ckknight | jumbali, calm down. |
| 01:25.17 | ag` | ckknight made a commit to not fix it |
| 01:25.25 | jumbali | ah |
| 01:25.47 | ag` | Does wood sink in water? |
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| 01:25.53 | ag` | No, it floats! It floats! |
| 01:26.08 | ag` | If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood. |
| 01:26.49 | Tekkub | you jackasses |
| 01:26.57 | Tekkub | if she floats she's full of hot air |
| 01:27.06 | Tekkub | and therefore not very combustable |
| 01:27.24 | Tekkub | unless she's full of hydrogen |
| 01:27.24 | Tekkub | in which cast... oh the humbanity! |
| 01:27.42 | Tekkub | DUH |
| 01:27.46 | Amadeo | is she made of wood, or does she make wood? |
| 01:27.46 | JoshBork1 | what about helium? |
| 01:27.57 | ag` | So, why do witches burn? |
| 01:28.01 | Tekkub | helium's inert, who'd use helium? |
| 01:28.17 | ag` | Build a bridge out of her. |
| 01:28.40 | Tekkub | okey damnit, I'm hungry |
| 01:29.07 | CIA-17 | 03ratbert * r15056 10BagBoy2/ (7 files): |
| 01:29.07 | CIA-17 | BagBoy2: |
| 01:29.07 | CIA-17 | Converted to more 2.0 libs |
| 01:29.07 | CIA-17 | Solidified FuBar-2.0 functionality |
| 01:29.08 | CIA-17 | Leaving WoW for awhile, so please help yourself to any fixes/patches work for you! |
| 01:30.23 | jumbali | anyone familiar with bananabar2 target automarking? |
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| 01:36.50 | eternally777 | Hey Kaelten |
| 01:36.54 | jumbali | how do i find 'bordeaux'? |
| 01:37.01 | jumbali | the bananabar2 author? |
| 01:37.15 | Kaelten | hi :) |
| 01:37.34 | jumbali | you are? |
| 01:38.02 | ckknight | hey Kaelten |
| 01:38.28 | FryGuy- | ugh |
| 01:38.58 | FryGuy- | the only way to get stuff to show up on /files is to have it touched right |
| 01:39.14 | Amadeo | jumbali: Kaelten was saying hi to eternally777 |
| 01:39.19 | jumbali | ah ok |
| 01:39.29 | Kaelten | lol |
| 01:39.30 | jumbali | how do i contact a mod author? |
| 01:39.47 | Kaelten | see if they left an email addy in the TOC file jumbali? |
| 01:40.16 | jumbali | bingo! :) thanks! |
| 01:42.33 | Tain | Can't trust those Ace addon authors. |
| 01:43.21 | ckknight | curse those handsome devils! |
| 01:43.59 | Funkeh` | screenshot or it didnt happen |
| 01:45.39 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r15057 10AutoBar/ (8 files): |
| 01:45.40 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 01:45.40 | CIA-17 | -- French! Thank you so much Cinedelle! |
| 01:45.40 | CIA-17 | -- Config is now load on demand. |
| 01:45.40 | CIA-17 | -- Initialization error on first startup fixed? |
| 01:47.04 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TBC * r15058 10Ace2/Ace2/AceLocale-2.2/AceLocale-2.2.lua: .AceLocale-2.2 - fixed :121: attempt to call a nil value |
| 01:48.03 | ckknight | oh yea, so people know, in WoW 2.0 we have the globals ENUS, FRFR, DEDE, etc. which turn into "English (US)", "French", "German", etc., but all localized |
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| 01:49.18 | Tekkub | so they turn into "English (US)", "Fancais" and "Deutsch"? |
| 01:49.30 | ckknight | no |
| 01:49.33 | jumbali | ah |
| 01:49.34 | Tekkub | or whatever those french bastards call their language |
| 01:49.59 | ckknight | if you have a german client, then you'll have "Englisch (US)", "Franzosisch", und "Deutsch" |
| 01:50.18 | Tekkub | oh... the globals are defined in each language, got it |
| 01:50.28 | ckknight | it's in GlobalStrings.lua |
| 01:50.33 | Tekkub | fucking frenchies |
| 01:51.04 | Tekkub | bugger... I just ate two baked potatos and I'm still hungry |
| 01:51.08 | Tekkub | *bakes two more* |
| 01:52.26 | Funkeh` | wtb more easy bacon |
| 01:52.55 | Funkeh` | pressed the button to hard and broke it :( |
| 01:53.16 | Tekkub | you tried the precooked bacon? |
| 01:53.22 | Tekkub | laziness at it's finest |
| 01:53.41 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 01:53.43 | Kalamadi | I've a dilemma |
| 01:53.49 | Kalamadi | I have eggs and mexican cheese |
| 01:53.54 | ckknight | k |
| 01:53.56 | Kalamadi | But you can't use mexican cheese in omlettes! |
| 01:53.57 | Tain | That sounds like a solution |
| 01:54.00 | Tain | WhaT?@#% |
| 01:54.04 | Xuerian | OH yes yuo can |
| 01:54.06 | ckknight | yes you can. |
| 01:54.08 | Tain | ARe you insane? |
| 01:54.09 | ckknight | I know I have. |
| 01:54.10 | Xuerian | Do you have taco shells? |
| 01:54.12 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:54.16 | Xuerian | burrito shells... the like |
| 01:54.18 | Tekkub | so tell the dirty mexicans they can have their cheeze back |
| 01:54.44 | Tekkub | and go get some american cheeze and have some false sense of patriotism |
| 01:54.44 | Funkeh` | <3 the random conversations in this channel |
| 01:54.44 | Xuerian | Out with it man! |
| 01:54.44 | Kalamadi | It'll be a spicy, non-mozzerella omlette |
| 01:55.04 | Tain | ug american cheese isn't even cheese |
| 01:55.18 | Tekkub | in the mean time, I'm going to cook a canadien bacon pizza and pretent I'm not a stupid american |
| 01:55.37 | Kalamadi | Tekkub. I will devour your face. |
| 01:55.40 | Kalamadi | I am so hungry ;_; |
| 01:55.54 | Tekkub | I have crappy cheap potatoes and ramen, want some? |
| 01:56.21 | Kalamadi | Yes please. |
| 01:56.22 | Xuerian | Kalamadi: Whip the eggs gently, adding a small handfull of the shredded cheese into the mix. Pour into pan, cook on low heat covered, till you can flip them. Flip over, apply cheese lightly, along with mushrooms or olives. Let cook till just solid enough to eat. THEN... carefully take one side of it, and roll it tightly, rollling up the entire omlette. lift carefully from pan, set on plate, sprinkle a line of cheese on the top, and dig in :) |
| 01:56.45 | Xuerian | Key is to only very, very lightly cook it! No browning =O |
| 01:56.51 | Kalamadi | Xuerian: No, literally. We have only eggs and a tiny amount of mexican cheese. |
| 01:56.57 | Xuerian | But then again it's gotta stay together... >_> |
| 01:56.57 | Thiana | Anyone recall the name of kergoth's webserver? |
| 01:57.07 | Xuerian | Well then forget the mushrooms and olives |
| 01:57.10 | Tekkub | oh yea I got some big mushrooms too |
| 01:57.14 | Kalamadi | ... |
| 01:57.16 | Tekkub | they've only been sitting out for a day |
| 01:57.22 | mjc | http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2367613 |
| 01:57.36 | Tekkub | they weren't that great sauteed, need the "normal" ones next time |
| 01:57.54 | Funkeh` | kalamadi is one of my favourite greek foods |
| 01:57.58 | Kalamadi | Did you use the white or the grey ones? |
| 01:58.14 | Kalamadi | Funkeh`: You're thinking of kalamari. My brother, yeah. |
| 01:58.25 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 01:58.32 | Tekkub | white, but they were like 2x the size |
| 01:58.36 | Tekkub | and pre-sliced |
| 01:58.43 | Tekkub | I don't like portabella shrooms |
| 01:58.54 | Kalamadi | Ah |
| 01:59.29 | Kaelten | portabellas are yummy |
| 01:59.33 | ckknight | portabella mushrooms are great, you just need to drown em in Sherry |
| 01:59.45 | Kebinusan | mmm |
| 01:59.49 | Kebinusan | making me hungry |
| 01:59.57 | mjc | ckknight: fuck you :) |
| 01:59.59 | Xuerian | Bastards. I have a sore throat ._. |
| 02:00.02 | ckknight | mjc, what? |
| 02:00.07 | mjc | making me hungry |
| 02:00.09 | ckknight | oh |
| 02:00.32 | Kalamadi | Application of foods to the body. |
| 02:00.33 | ckknight | well, if you get like 4 portabella mushrooms, cut em up, put em in a frying pan, then start pouring sherry on em |
| 02:00.33 | Kalamadi | Discuss. |
| 02:00.41 | ckknight | make sure to keep turning em |
| 02:00.44 | ckknight | and they're awesome. |
| 02:00.52 | ckknight | Kalamadi, good for bestiality, if you're into that. |
| 02:01.05 | ckknight | peanut butter and all that |
| 02:01.05 | Kalamadi | :O |
| 02:01.30 | Tain | Yes OR a little butter and then some balsamic vinegar. Somewhat similar but the balsamic adds such a taste. |
| 02:01.59 | ckknight | I should request portabella mushrooms... |
| 02:02.18 | ckknight | classtime. |
| 02:03.06 | Amadeo | what major MMOGs are in our future? |
| 02:03.14 | Amadeo | Warhammer Online, Vanguard... |
| 02:03.28 | ag` | Oh yeah, aight. Aight, I put on my cloak and wizard hat. |
| 02:03.40 | Tain | Marvel and D.C comics both have games coming. |
| 02:03.41 | ag` | None of the others will have a proper UI scripting system |
| 02:03.53 | Tain | There's one or maybe two Pirate based MMORPGs. |
| 02:04.02 | Tekkub | after FFXI then WoW... I'll never play something I can't UI Mod |
| 02:04.05 | ag` | I think I'll play wow forever because of Lua :( |
| 02:04.10 | Amadeo | Tain: Developers hate Pirates |
| 02:04.18 | Tain | Yarr |
| 02:04.22 | Tekkub | pirates are boring |
| 02:04.22 | ag` | There's Darkfall |
| 02:04.25 | Funkeh` | well nn folks, enjoy your meals etc =P |
| 02:04.31 | ag` | I'd like to play Darkfall :D |
| 02:04.33 | Amadeo | Darkfall? I thought that was an old Mythic game |
| 02:04.38 | Tekkub | I mean, rape, pitalge and go months without showering |
| 02:04.45 | Tekkub | I get 2/3 of that already here at home |
| 02:04.57 | Tekkub | *pilage |
| 02:05.52 | Kalamadi | *pillage |
| 02:05.59 | Tekkub | *whateva |
| 02:07.17 | Kalamadi | Bleh. My guild can pass Nef phase 1 every single time |
| 02:07.33 | Kalamadi | But can't even get to begin fighting Nef himself before dying |
| 02:07.48 | Tem | that's odd |
| 02:07.59 | Tem | sounds like either your MT or MT healers are the suck |
| 02:08.10 | Kalamadi | Everyone begins panicking as soon as Nef lands |
| 02:08.15 | mjc | lol |
| 02:08.19 | Tem | neither of which should be possible if you've actually gotten to nef |
| 02:08.21 | Gngsk | go kill onyxia for practice |
| 02:08.22 | Kalamadi | So the caves are just abandoned |
| 02:08.31 | Kalamadi | I know! It's rediculous |
| 02:09.37 | Kalamadi | The draknoids start pouring out, but they keep floundering on DPS |
| 02:09.42 | Kalamadi | So healing is overwhelmed |
| 02:11.28 | Kebinusan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38173821&sid=1 |
| 02:11.35 | Kebinusan | healers are going to be a bit annoyed by that |
| 02:12.27 | mjc | Kalamadi: aoe is important :) |
| 02:13.08 | [FH]Birdemani | thats old news. downgrading in spells was leaked from alpha |
| 02:13.21 | [FH]Birdemani | i like it |
| 02:13.27 | [FH]Birdemani | just like i like the new rating system |
| 02:13.37 | Kalamadi | I was on the left side, healing the AoE |
| 02:13.56 | Kalamadi | The other healers were pussyfooting it along and I burned my entire mana pool with FoL rank 6 -_- |
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| 02:15.13 | Tain | I wonder if anyone at Apple will ever realize that their Mac vs PC commercials aren't doing what they intended when people like the guy playing PC better. |
| 02:15.33 | Gngsk | Tain, heh so true. |
| 02:15.52 | CIA-17 | 03hk2717 * r15059 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:15.52 | CIA-17 | Babble-2.2 |
| 02:15.52 | CIA-17 | -Updated zhCN locale |
| 02:15.52 | CIA-17 | -Added some spells pulled from Chronometer. |
| 02:15.54 | Gngsk | wtf |
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| 02:16.06 | Gngsk | every time we've killed maexxna she's dropped the pendant of forgotten names... |
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| 02:16.29 | Morfar | I need a /script to execute upon any crit. Anyone? |
| 02:17.02 | Morfar | I tried with /run if not CRIT then CRIT=1 local f=CreateFrame("Frame","CRITF") f:SetScript("OnEvent",function() if string.find("crit",arg1) then SendChatMessage("HEADSHOT","YELL") end end) f:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE") end, but didn't work |
| 02:17.10 | Kalamadi | ... |
| 02:17.19 | Kalamadi | I don't think anyone wants to help you be a nuisance. |
| 02:17.27 | Tain | Dunno I play a Rogue, most of my hits are crigs. |
| 02:17.29 | Tain | crits |
| 02:18.06 | Xuerian | Not gonna help with a spam script, personally :P |
| 02:18.24 | Morfar | The purpose of this macro is personal experience with macro writing, not going to use it in public :S |
| 02:18.39 | Morfar | Who would want to spam like that. I just can't get it to work proberly |
| 02:20.12 | Kalamadi | So...are you trying to make an automatic Kill Command script? |
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| 02:20.52 | Morfar | A what? Don't make it into something it isn't (if it isn't). All I just can't figure is to make the script yell whenever a crit is executed. |
| 02:21.18 | Kalamadi | We don't know what you're making, so we're reluctant to help. |
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| 02:21.53 | pastamancer | oh, I know what he's making and I'm definitely not going to help |
| 02:22.03 | Morfar | Well then I'll make it into a request of help: I need to create a macro that executes upon crits and thereby sends a chat message. |
| 02:22.34 | Kalamadi | pastamancer: Are you certain he's not trying to make a kill command script? |
| 02:22.53 | Xuerian | Morfar: A better way to phrase that is: "I want to learn how to execute a function when I match a string to a combat event". This would avoid raising hackles... which I'm afraid has already happened :P |
| 02:23.05 | pastamancer | he wants to be the most obnoxious rogue on the planet by announcing to the entire zone whenever he cirts (10-20 times a minute?) |
| 02:23.06 | Morfar | Xuerian, you're right. |
| 02:23.14 | pastamancer | s/cirts/crits/ |
| 02:23.24 | Morfar | I'm not even playing a melee class. Been playing priest since Closed BEta. |
| 02:24.02 | Morfar | I don't need the macro for anything or anyone. I need it for personal experience. Someone requested it in the guild chat and I can't make it which annoys me and now I just have to find out how to. |
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| 02:24.40 | Kalamadi | It won't work in 2.0.0 anyway |
| 02:24.49 | Morfar | I' |
| 02:24.56 | Morfar | I'm not paying 2.x now. |
| 02:25.25 | Kalamadi | I said "won't", as in "would not" |
| 02:25.39 | Morfar | I don't care about 2.x |
| 02:25.49 | ag` | why shouldn't it work in 2.x? |
| 02:25.57 | pastamancer | I think it would work just fine |
| 02:26.02 | Morfar | Should we also just erase all the addons we're using now just because an expansion is comming? |
| 02:26.02 | ag` | yes it would |
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| 02:26.15 | ag` | it would work just fine |
| 02:26.19 | ag` | here's what you do |
| 02:26.29 | Xuerian | If combat parsing was nuked, someone would be shot by a few thousand angry rogues |
| 02:26.35 | Morfar | The problem I have is to register the prober event.. I think |
| 02:26.35 | Xuerian | (And mages...) |
| 02:26.49 | Kalamadi | It's not the parsing, it's the logic |
| 02:26.49 | ag` | you have to register for an event or parse that combat messages |
| 02:27.24 | ag` | anyway as you're only looking for your own crit on targets registering for UNIT_COMBAT might be enough |
| 02:27.28 | ag` | no parsing would be needed for that |
| 02:27.32 | Morfar | Well the thing is that I've made what I've shown you before and in my focked up screwed head atm I can't see the problem with it. |
| 02:28.22 | ag` | that addon could be made in like five lines of code I think |
| 02:28.58 | Morfar | Well since it's such a small feature I'd like not to have it as an Addon. |
| 02:29.00 | ag` | register UNIT_COMBAT, if arg1 == target and one of the other ones (can't remember, the one that means you have a crit) is true, then send chat message |
| 02:29.02 | cladhaire | I can't decide whether or not I'm pissed about stuff like this or not: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5523-MassFrames_Beta_(TBC).html |
| 02:29.18 | ag` | Morfar: you would have to register for an event |
| 02:29.28 | ag` | cladhaire: yeah, I've seen it |
| 02:29.40 | ag` | I don't know how much of aguf that's left in it |
| 02:29.48 | cladhaire | seems like all the watchdog shit's in there. |
| 02:29.56 | CIA-17 | 03skyboat * r15060 10PublicPanic/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:29.56 | CIA-17 | PublicPanic |
| 02:29.56 | CIA-17 | - Added start timers (work in progress!) |
| 02:29.57 | CIA-17 | - Added timers for Alterac Valley summonable bosses |
| 02:29.57 | CIA-17 | - New textures added |
| 02:29.57 | CIA-17 | - Minor code tweaks |
| 02:30.01 | ag` | I didn't check the code |
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| 02:30.37 | cladhaire | he gutted the tags, but the parser is still there. |
| 02:30.55 | [FH]Birdemani | so they are still the same thing? |
| 02:31.02 | weab | it does give credit, and explains the reasoning for upping it |
| 02:31.18 | cladhaire | no i know. |
| 02:31.29 | cladhaire | i just wrote that parser specifically for aguf and watchdog =) |
| 02:32.09 | Morfar | ag`, ping |
| 02:32.11 | Tain | I wrote a parser for your mom. |
| 02:32.14 | cladhaire | not really pissed.. just pissy |
| 02:32.17 | Slayman | clad, u r from the USA, what Timezone are u in? GMT -5 ? |
| 02:32.17 | cladhaire | Tain: She LOVED it imo |
| 02:32.22 | cladhaire | I'm GMT -5 |
| 02:32.23 | cladhaire | aye |
| 02:32.48 | Tain | u r illiter8 |
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| 02:32.52 | Slayman | u receive NBC ? what's NBC 8 pm to your timezone? |
| 02:33.42 | cladhaire | NBC at 8:00pm is Dead or no Deal, then Heroes, then Studio 60 |
| 02:33.50 | cladhaire | which i'm watching atm, cause i dont change the channel after heroes. |
| 02:34.37 | Xuerian | Can't miss scrubs later though ^_^ |
| 02:34.40 | Slayman | what i want to know is heroes running or already over? |
| 02:34.51 | cladhaire | heroes is done |
| 02:35.02 | cladhaire | i'm waiting for beladona to show up so we can discuss it =) |
| 02:35.45 | Tain | I'm annoyed at Heroes. |
| 02:35.47 | Tekkub | beladona *eyeroll* |
| 02:35.50 | ag` | he changed it a lot |
| 02:35.51 | Xuerian | Whys' that, tain? :p |
| 02:35.55 | Tain | It makes me want to watch it. |
| 02:35.56 | cladhaire | Tain: why? |
| 02:36.03 | cladhaire | Tain: its worth it. |
| 02:36.06 | cladhaire | Tekkub: ? |
| 02:36.09 | Slayman | heroes made me addicted! |
| 02:36.10 | Tain | I'm not used to watching shows every week. |
| 02:36.15 | Xuerian | Tain: It's good =P |
| 02:36.44 | Tekkub | my uber-goth friends named their spawnling belladonna scarlette |
| 02:36.47 | cladhaire | Tain: So DVR it. |
| 02:36.52 | Tekkub | fucking breeders :P |
| 02:37.04 | Slayman | it's over by about 36 minutes already and still no torrent up, that's driving me crazy actually! |
| 02:37.20 | Xuerian | Or just torrent it... :P |
| 02:37.24 | cladhaire | zomg sorry! |
| 02:37.35 | Tekkub | don't be sorry for me |
| 02:37.39 | Tekkub | be sorry for the kid |
| 02:38.17 | Xuerian | Yeah. A kid dies every time you suggest semi-legitmately acquiring a digital media production. |
| 02:38.20 | cladhaire | Tekkub: I wouldn't apoligize to you.. so don't be confused. |
| 02:38.32 | Xuerian | Save the kids. Pirate a movie. |
| 02:38.46 | Tekkub | screw you! |
| 02:39.00 | Slayman | save a tree, eat a beaver |
| 02:39.11 | Xuerian | Save a moose, sex up a treemoose. |
| 02:39.18 | Tain | haha I never told him but one of the biggest "adult escort" agencies in this area is "The Belladonna" |
| 02:39.24 | Tekkub | save a beaver, suck on a sausage |
| 02:39.53 | Tain | I can't help it but that's all I think of every time he says anything |
| 02:39.57 | weab | save a sausage, bang a pussy |
| 02:40.00 | Slayman | Tain, how come u know? being a customer? |
| 02:40.06 | Tekkub | poor tain |
| 02:40.08 | Xuerian | that's not exactly saving it, but I won't argue. |
| 02:40.35 | Tain | Nah those places are too expensive. ;) |
| 02:41.00 | Slayman | ~whalestab still not showing heroes torrent |
| 02:41.02 | purl | ACTION stabs still not showing heroes torrent with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 02:41.21 | Tekkub | belladonna's also a drug :) |
| 02:41.52 | Slayman | yeah it widens your eyes |
| 02:41.53 | Slayman | some of you got access to beta? |
| 02:41.58 | cladhaire | aye |
| 02:42.04 | Slayman | nice |
| 02:42.20 | ag` | Morfar: you won't be able to do what you want without registering an event, and you won't be able to do that without creating something that looks like an addon |
| 02:42.21 | Slayman | Gello appears to have too |
| 02:42.51 | ag` | you might be able create a frame and hook it's OnEvent |
| 02:43.04 | Tekkub | yea, fucking eye doctors dialating your eyes |
| 02:43.11 | Tekkub | *whine* I hate when they do that |
| 02:43.13 | Xuerian | ag`: he was trying to do that, I think |
| 02:43.32 | Slayman | the german word for beer is bier, which is somewhat macabre ... |
| 02:44.36 | Tain | Not drinking is somewhat macabre. |
| 02:45.18 | ag` | I put on my robe and wizard hat. |
| 02:45.30 | cladhaire | TAKE OFF YOUR PANTS AND JACKET! |
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| 02:45.52 | Tem | I put on my robe and wizard hat? |
| 02:45.58 | Xuerian | .... |
| 02:45.58 | ag` | I put on my robe and wizard hat. |
| 02:46.26 | ag` | I cast level four erotism and you become a very beautiful woman. |
| 02:58.37 | CIA-17 | 03pprovost * r15061 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (ClosetGnome_Switcher.toc License.txt): ClosetGnome_Switcher: Updated TOC and added license file. |
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| 02:59.23 | Xuerian | Another license? :P |
| 02:59.31 | PProvost | Sorry. Old habits. |
| 02:59.47 | PProvost | It is the softest "do whatever the fuck you want" license there is. |
| 03:00.00 | Xuerian | Ahh.... I see :p |
| 03:00.46 | kergoth | nothing wrong with licensing |
| 03:00.49 | PProvost | It is basically just like the CC "by" license. |
| 03:01.59 | Xuerian | Not saying it's wrong :P |
| 03:02.34 | PProvost | I know. |
| 03:03.04 | Kalamadi | Blargh! HealWatch is busted again |
| 03:03.29 | PProvost | What does HW do? |
| 03:03.40 | Kalamadi | Replicates the casting bars of friendly healers |
| 03:03.46 | eternally777 | Tells you when other healers are healing your target |
| 03:04.40 | Kalamadi | It's loaded, but I can't get it to come up |
| 03:04.55 | Kalamadi | Slashcommands work, but nothing happens |
| 03:07.03 | PProvost | Ahh... gotcha. Squeenix does that good enough for me at this point. |
| 03:07.11 | PProvost | s/Squeenix/Squishy/ |
| 03:07.26 | Kalamadi | Squishy won't work shortly, so I'm weening off of it |
| 03:07.40 | Kalamadi | Also, I'm involved with the development of Grid (to a degree) |
| 03:07.55 | Kalamadi | Since HealWatch will still (theoretically) work, I'm trying to get it going |
| 03:07.56 | PProvost | It should work for information. |
| 03:08.09 | PProvost | No? |
| 03:08.33 | Kalamadi | It's not useful to me, end of discussion. |
| 03:09.53 | PProvost | Okay, just trying to learn. Don't get all in a tizzy. |
| 03:10.51 | Kalamadi | Sorry, I'm just a little upset |
| 03:11.05 | Kalamadi | Squishy isn't good enough because I have to fire off a heal every 1.5s or so |
| 03:11.10 | Kalamadi | I need to be very precise |
| 03:11.25 | Kalamadi | It's great for selecting targets, but not for preventing overheal |
| 03:13.34 | kergoth | hmm, healwatch sounds neat, i want that |
| 03:13.56 | Kalamadi | It keeps bugging for me, however :/ |
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| 03:14.59 | kergoth | :( |
| 03:16.11 | Kalamadi | I've tried deleting its configuration to no avail |
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| 03:20.55 | Kalamadi | kergoth: See if you can get HealWatch working :/ |
| 03:21.57 | kergoth | just checked it out, i'll try it when i'm done with this aq20 |
| 03:22.15 | Kalamadi | Doing attempts at Nef, myself |
| 03:22.24 | Kalamadi | We've gotten him down to 52%...the DPS flounders, as per usual |
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| 03:23.33 | Xuerian | help me... the tv is sucking my brain x.x |
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| 03:24.10 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r15062 10PeriodicTable/Core/PTEmbed.lua: PeriodicTable - Now flushes cache when a library-set is registered or upgraded |
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| 03:26.01 | PProvost | So I've got someone on the hook to make WAU (now called WowAceUpdater) work on the Mac. :) |
| 03:30.53 | gxam | i was pondering doing that |
| 03:31.21 | gxam | but svn is so easy to use i decided not to care |
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| 03:42.47 | Kalamadi | Nef down ~~ |
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| 04:33.59 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:35.47 | ckknight | anyone have any recent bugs I should know about? |
| 04:36.41 | Kalamadi | Yeah, there's a mosquito in my house |
| 04:36.46 | Kalamadi | It keeps trying to eat my monitor |
| 04:36.55 | Unrealii | hi ckknight :) |
| 04:37.09 | ckknight | hey Unrealii |
| 04:42.58 | CIA-17 | 03eternally777 * r15065 10EPMeter/EPM_EventHandler.lua: |
| 04:42.58 | CIA-17 | EPMeter: |
| 04:42.58 | CIA-17 | * Only parse events when source is self. |
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| 05:04.05 | Sole | hai |
| 05:04.36 | ckknight | hey, Sole |
| 05:05.00 | Xuerian | ckk's bored again. He's greeting the peons =| |
| 05:05.09 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:05.10 | Sole | have we started preparing Babble for the new BC strings? |
| 05:05.11 | Sole | HEY |
| 05:05.13 | Sole | SCREW YOU BUDDY |
| 05:05.16 | ckknight | yes, Sole |
| 05:05.18 | Sole | ^_^ |
| 05:05.21 | ckknight | indoor voice |
| 05:05.29 | ckknight | Sole, Babble-Zone has the new strings |
| 05:05.39 | ckknight | and Babble-Race |
| 05:05.41 | Sole | well thats a start |
| 05:05.48 | Sole | Babble-Spell will be the big one |
| 05:05.53 | ckknight | yea... |
| 05:06.03 | ckknight | feel free to upgrade it ;-) |
| 05:06.07 | Sole | O_O |
| 05:06.17 | Sole | when I have about 10 hours spare Ill do it |
| 05:06.54 | Sole | would be easier if I had a beta account |
| 05:06.55 | ckknight | good times. |
| 05:07.03 | ckknight | ah, sorry, can't help you there. |
| 05:07.31 | Xuerian | Doesn't the framexml have the spells buried in it somewhere? >.> |
| 05:07.39 | Sole | hmmr |
| 05:07.50 | Sole | well I can only do the english part |
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| 05:09.55 | ckknight | no, Xuerian |
| 05:09.59 | That1Swede | If you enchant Benediction that enchant would also be present on Anathema if you do the conversion thing, right? |
| 05:10.11 | Xuerian | Well that sucks =( |
| 05:19.24 | Kalamadi | That1Swede: Yes |
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| 05:22.05 | Kalamadi | Argh |
| 05:22.10 | Kalamadi | My computer is lagging like crazy... |
| 05:22.53 | Kalamadi | WoW's CPU usage is stuck @ 50% |
| 05:24.32 | Kalamadi | Essentially, WoW's thread is completely using up one of my cores... |
| 05:25.26 | Xuerian | Keel, fluffy. KEEL |
| 05:26.33 | Kalamadi | Arf. |
| 05:28.11 | CIA-17 | 03hk2717 * r15066 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames-zhCN.lua: ag_UnitFrames: updated zhCN locale. |
| 05:29.37 | Xuerian | Such a good evil puppy. |
| 05:29.50 | Xuerian | ~scoobysnack Kalamadi |
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| 05:35.26 | Sole | hmmrf |
| 05:36.06 | Sole | so as I take it, the new events in BC almost remove the need for ParserLib for Antagonist |
| 05:36.13 | Sole | at least for the casting info |
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| 05:38.40 | Sole | hmm Miles confuses me |
| 05:39.09 | Sole | why did he name his code blurb mEnemyCastBar? |
| 05:41.31 | Sole | as far as I can tell it tracks the casting time of a unit |
| 05:42.26 | Sole | but then what happens when you want casting times of all hostiles in the area? not just the target/targettarget ..which are the only units that a hostile can be classified under |
| 05:42.32 | Sole | bleh |
| 05:43.15 | ckknight | bleh? |
| 05:43.34 | Sole | yeah bleh |
| 05:44.27 | ckknight | oh yea? |
| 05:44.31 | ckknight | well, fuck you, guy! |
| 05:44.31 | Sole | the new spell cast events - whats the point? |
| 05:44.39 | Sole | hey |
| 05:44.41 | ckknight | so we have more info? |
| 05:44.41 | Sole | FUCK YOU BUDDY |
| 05:44.48 | Sole | true |
| 05:44.52 | Sole | whats the point for me |
| 05:44.55 | ckknight | indoor voice |
| 05:44.56 | Sole | Im talking about me here |
| 05:45.00 | Sole | ALL ABOUT ME |
| 05:45.09 | Sole | outdoor voice |
| 05:45.12 | ckknight | you can now jerk off to more data? |
| 05:45.16 | ckknight | that's my plan, at least |
| 05:45.19 | Kalamadi | Stop yelling! You'll wake the baby ;_; |
| 05:45.31 | Sole | i thought I killed that thing last night |
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| 05:45.42 | Kalamadi | I resurrected it. |
| 05:45.51 | Sole | dammit |
| 05:46.01 | ckknight | hey hyperChipmunk |
| 05:46.08 | Sole | I think Im still gonna stick with just parsing the combatlog for Antagonist though |
| 05:46.28 | Sole | because it doesnt look like theres any way to get casting info of all surrounding enemies |
| 05:46.31 | Sole | just your target |
| 05:47.04 | ckknight | if you have something that works, stick with it |
| 05:47.10 | ckknight | reassess after WoW 2.0 release |
| 05:47.18 | Sole | yar I suppose |
| 05:47.37 | Sole | Im just trying to see if I can make my code more efficient, thats all |
| 05:48.03 | Sole | using the new events would just make it messy as a fucked pie |
| 05:48.10 | Kalamadi | Mmm, pie |
| 05:48.28 | Kalamadi | Oh, I most certainly am visualizing it, and it is good. |
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| 05:57.30 | Tem | kergoth, you around? |
| 06:00.45 | Sole | wtb BC open beta kergoth: I am a gay |
| 06:00.51 | Sole | DAMMI |
| 06:01.01 | Sole | DAMMIT ..worked in WoW sometimes :( |
| 06:02.00 | Tem | you lose Sole |
| 06:02.08 | Sole | wtn BC open beta kergoth: I am a gay |
| 06:02.19 | Sole | closer this time |
| 06:02.21 | Tem | try again, and I get to kick you |
| 06:02.31 | Gngsk | yes please! |
| 06:02.35 | Sole | no love :( |
| 06:03.01 | Sole | youre telling me youve never played tricks on people in WoW? |
| 06:03.08 | Sole | I was 2 people at once! |
| 06:03.13 | Tem | sure I have |
| 06:03.17 | weab | not lame ones |
| 06:03.20 | Tem | but it just won't work on IRC |
| 06:03.25 | Sole | true |
| 06:03.29 | Sole | worth a shot anyway |
| 06:04.00 | Sole | anywhom cya guys |
| 06:04.20 | Sole | Ill leave you alone |
| 06:08.48 | [FH]Birdemani | !notes PublicPanic |
| 06:08.59 | [FH]Birdemani | is that bot gone? |
| 06:09.51 | oxman | purl are you here ? |
| 06:09.54 | purl | Yes, I'm right here, oxman. |
| 06:10.28 | oxman | no [FH]Birdemani purl is still here |
| 06:10.28 | oxman | ;) |
| 06:11.03 | [FH]Birdemani | is !notes the right syntax? (thou I'm just too laxy to download to see what this is right now) |
| 06:11.13 | ckknight_ | the bot's gone |
| 06:11.23 | oxman | ^^ |
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| 06:20.18 | Kalamadi | Blargh |
| 06:20.25 | Kalamadi | It's 2:20 AM and I have nothing to do |
| 06:20.34 | Kalamadi | I won't fall asleep until 7 AM at the earliest -_- |
| 06:32.53 | ckknight_ | Kalamadi, play wow? |
| 06:33.47 | Kalamadi | Nothing to do :/ |
| 06:34.25 | ckknight_ | wow is something to do |
| 06:34.53 | Kalamadi | What am I going to do? Solo ZG? >_> |
| 06:35.42 | ckknight_ | roll a lvl 1 guy ;-) |
| 06:35.54 | oxman | make dreamchat |
| 06:35.54 | oxman | :') |
| 06:36.01 | omega__ | the search on the frontpage of the wiki doesnt work |
| 06:36.07 | omega__ | it claims the specialpage is missing |
| 06:36.17 | omega__ | but there is one named Search in the listing of specialpages |
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| 06:46.46 | omega__ | is there an Ace library for getting information about items in inventory and bank? |
| 06:49.36 | oxman | TBC have a function to know your bank inventory no ? |
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| 06:50.52 | maia | yawn |
| 06:51.12 | Kalamadi | I want clam chowder. |
| 06:51.57 | omega__ | oxman: dont know, I dont really care much for TBC before its out :) |
| 06:52.12 | oxman | ok :p |
| 06:55.42 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15067 10BigTrouble/BigTroubleOptions.lua: BigTrouble - Fixed bugs in setting font size |
| 06:58.29 | ckknight_ | one thing about the beta is that I can't join battlegrounds at lvl 19 :-P |
| 06:58.37 | ckknight_ | nobody on |
| 06:58.53 | omega__ | hihi |
| 06:59.30 | ckknight_ | fix your name |
| 07:00.07 | Kalamadi | It's, like. 45 degress outside. I think I'll go for a jog after I'm done watching Cowboy Bebop :O |
| 07:00.52 | maia | celsius or farenheit? |
| 07:01.58 | Kalamadi | F |
| 07:02.51 | Kalamadi | It hasn't yet gotten that cold down here in Florida, so |
| 07:03.05 | Kalamadi | And I'm from the Northeast. |
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| 07:04.03 | omega__ | its approaching 0c here in the mornings now |
| 07:04.10 | omega__ | might have been below during the night |
| 07:04.23 | Kalamadi | Must be nice. |
| 07:06.11 | Kalamadi | Where are you, Omega? |
| 07:06.17 | omega__ | oslo, norway |
| 07:06.33 | Kalamadi | Ah. |
| 07:09.50 | oxman | 14°C here :) |
| 07:09.51 | oxman | france ;) |
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| 07:10.57 | Kalamadi | Can I ride a table? |
| 07:11.17 | evl | I've read some rumors that it's possible to hand in Imperial Armaments/Regalia without taking down Huhu or Twins? |
| 07:11.28 | CIA-17 | 03toadkiller * r15068 10AutoBar/AutoBar.toc: |
| 07:11.28 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 07:11.28 | CIA-17 | - Not really sure if this is the right way to do it but overiding eternally777 changes. You can not change paths to libraries without breaking the mod. |
| 07:11.50 | Xuerian | feel free to try >< |
| 07:13.48 | Xuerian | so close to freaking sleep.. must.... finish... |
| 07:16.37 | Xuerian | YEAEAAARRGHHHSDHFHLSidjfoaiwjermasdf <implosion> |
| 07:16.59 | kergoth | are frames properly positioned via the layout cache when its addon is LoD? |
| 07:18.25 | ckknight | not sure |
| 07:18.46 | ckknight | it's kinda funny having people tell me they like my mods in-game :-) |
| 07:18.55 | Elkano | when exactly are frames positioned according to layout cache? |
| 07:19.04 | kergoth | good question |
| 07:19.12 | kergoth | i epxected to find info about the layout cache on wowwiki, but no such luck |
| 07:19.51 | Elkano | I think it's after ADDON_LOADED... unfortunatly... |
| 07:19.56 | kergoth | hmm |
| 07:20.38 | kergoth | i tried making a couple addons LoD and their frames arent getting their positions restored.. i knew you had to position manually for frames created from lua, but.. |
| 07:24.26 | Kalamadi | What does LoD stand for? |
| 07:25.19 | Elkano | Load on Demand |
| 07:25.26 | Kalamadi | Aaah. |
| 07:26.08 | Srosh | Lord of Destruction =P |
| 07:26.09 | Srosh | oops, wrong game ;) |
| 07:26.14 | [Ammo] | Living on Drugs |
| 07:29.56 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r15069 10XLootMaster/ (XLootMaster.lua XLootMaster.toc): |
| 07:29.57 | CIA-17 | XLootMaster: Removed Gratuity from toc and init. |
| 07:29.57 | CIA-17 | Added: Priority list. Applicable in raid only, currently only accessible from ml |
| 07:29.57 | CIA-17 | dropdown in raid. Sorting doesn't work yet. Blame lua. Yes I know there are |
| 07:29.57 | CIA-17 | "Move up" and "Move down" buttons. -they don't work-. Also may have fucked up |
| 07:29.57 | CIA-17 | party looting again... oops. |
| 07:34.13 | Kalamadi | I wonder what Julia says in eps. 26 of Cowboy Bebop. |
| 07:34.49 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r15070 10XLoot/ (XLoot.lua XLoot.toc libs/): XLoot: Adding Deformat to externals and toc and stuff before I forget. Teensie scaling changes. |
| 07:35.34 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r15071 10XLootMonitor/ (XLootMonitor.lua XLootMonitorOptions.lua): XLootMonitor: Small scaling changes. Reworked handlers for performance and now uses Deformat. |
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| 07:42.35 | maia | has anyone been in touch with kaelten recently? |
| 07:44.03 | Kalamadi | So, wait. In a syndicate, if one party kills the leading body, they become the lead, correct? |
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| 07:47.12 | maia | vhaarr: ping |
| 07:49.05 | sbu | 'morning |
| 07:49.41 | sbu | xloot* rocks :) |
| 07:49.58 | sbu | mh Xuerian|Sleep, you there? ;) |
| 07:51.44 | maia | so what is xloot? |
| 07:51.56 | maia | isnt it just a skinned loot window? |
| 07:52.15 | sbu | yep - w/ loot announce |
| 07:52.23 | sbu | i like it ;p |
| 07:53.03 | maia | loot annouce? |
| 07:57.19 | Kalamadi | Mmm, eggs. |
| 07:57.55 | Kalamadi | Haha! |
| 07:57.58 | Kalamadi | I just realized something |
| 07:58.13 | Kalamadi | The voodoo guy in Cowboy Bebop has an original playstation in his "room" |
| 08:10.16 | sbu | maia: send looted items to grp/raid/guild/etc. - nice for PM |
| 08:10.28 | sbu | errr ML |
| 08:10.29 | sbu | sorry ;) |
| 08:11.21 | deci | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38244050&sid=1 |
| 08:11.40 | Srosh | more time for polishing! |
| 08:12.10 | Kalamadi | January? ;_; |
| 08:12.53 | CIA-17 | 03xinsonic * r15072 10BigWigs/ (19 files in 9 dirs): BigWigs: update zhTW, thanks to hmj and enix256. |
| 08:13.07 | nevcairiel | at least its something official now |
| 08:13.10 | Kalamadi | Aye |
| 08:13.23 | Kalamadi | But it's kind of sad that they're missing the good buying season |
| 08:13.26 | Kalamadi | Though, in all reality |
| 08:13.31 | Kalamadi | It IS an expansion pack |
| 08:13.45 | nevcairiel | its not like noone buys it now |
| 08:14.26 | Kalamadi | Now we all want to know when the code change is going to come into effect :x |
| 08:16.43 | nevcairiel | but they didnt nerf the spells < lvl40 |
| 08:16.48 | nevcairiel | they nerfed all spells now :D |
| 08:16.49 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38173821&sid=1 |
| 08:17.11 | nevcairiel | all lower then your highest, that is |
| 08:17.21 | Kalamadi | No "all lower" |
| 08:17.28 | Kalamadi | There's a grace segment of 6 levels |
| 08:17.39 | nevcairiel | like the post said |
| 08:17.43 | nevcairiel | maybe 2 or 3 ranks |
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| 08:24.31 | Srosh | I think especially Blizz proved time and time again that for them, every time in the year is a holiday season *g* |
| 08:26.49 | nevcairiel | its automatically a holiday when BC is released |
| 08:26.56 | nevcairiel | no one goes to work, must be a holiday |
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| 08:31.11 | XLVII | Well, that just fucks up my 19 Priest Twink then.. |
| 08:31.15 | XLVII | She has +160 Healing |
| 08:31.18 | XLVII | Now it'll be wasted. |
| 08:32.24 | Kalamadi | ...why? |
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| 08:36.35 | omega__ | whats up? |
| 08:37.00 | XLVII | Kalamdi, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38173821&sid=1 |
| 08:37.47 | Kalamadi | Yes, and? |
| 08:37.48 | nevcairiel | i still dont get what difference does it make on a 19 priest |
| 08:38.09 | Srosh | none |
| 08:38.10 | Kalamadi | None. |
| 08:38.32 | Galencia | pre 20 spells were already nerfed pretty har |
| 08:38.32 | Galencia | d |
| 08:38.43 | Kalamadi | Yeah, because you're LV60 |
| 08:38.47 | Galencia | and that change is really stupid.. "oh, so, players are smart... well we cant have that can we." |
| 08:38.59 | Kalamadi | The change is meaningless. |
| 08:39.05 | Galencia | no, it isnt. |
| 08:39.11 | Kalamadi | The healers who knew what they were doing are completely unaffected. |
| 08:39.13 | Galencia | you've obviously never played a priest :) |
| 08:39.22 | Kalamadi | Lv60 shadowpriest |
| 08:39.26 | Galencia | exactly |
| 08:39.30 | Kalamadi | Healed in raids and did damn well at it. |
| 08:39.33 | Galencia | i bet youve never even USED heal rank 2 |
| 08:39.49 | Kalamadi | Nope. I used my Greater Heals and Renew. |
| 08:39.57 | Galencia | then leave the comments for the big boys, eh? |
| 08:40.12 | Kalamadi | No thanks. The big boys have no idea what they're doing. |
| 08:40.22 | Galencia | yeah, clearly.. |
| 08:40.32 | Kalamadi | There's a priest on my server who absolutely stacks SPI. |
| 08:40.46 | nevcairiel | ever healed on patchwerk ? :) |
| 08:40.54 | Kalamadi | Nobody ever sees him OOM, yet he always tops the healing and bottoms the overhealing. |
| 08:41.00 | Kalamadi | Myself? No. But this priest has. |
| 08:41.16 | nevcairiel | if you only GH on patchwerk, you are oom when patchi is at 70 :D |
| 08:41.25 | Srosh | if this change would be applied to current game, I maybe could agree with you but you have to theorycraft it unto TBC not current game |
| 08:41.38 | Galencia | the fact is it changes a lot |
| 08:41.46 | Galencia | does it make healing impossible? dont be stupid |
| 08:41.53 | Galencia | basically they want every priest to play the same way |
| 08:41.59 | Kalamadi | Yes, because you are the only healer and GH will be the only spell. |
| 08:42.04 | Galencia | which is sad, because one of the nice aspects is having your own style |
| 08:42.11 | dreft | or rather they dont want priests to exceed a certain mana efficiency |
| 08:42.30 | Kalamadi | When this change comes around, the personal HoTs will be in effect, will they not? |
| 08:42.39 | evl | yes |
| 08:42.45 | evl | so it's will be a non-issue most likely |
| 08:42.49 | Srosh | uhm, since downranking is a large part of minmaxing I'm pretty sure there's nothing "unique" to use that |
| 08:42.50 | Kalamadi | Exactly my point. |
| 08:43.09 | Kalamadi | The FSR will become more important once again. |
| 08:43.18 | Srosh | HoTs will stack and health pools will be significantly larger than now |
| 08:43.19 | Kalamadi | Since a lot of the "panic" will be drawn off |
| 08:43.24 | Galencia | sigh, you dont get it |
| 08:43.34 | Kalamadi | I do get it. |
| 08:43.42 | Kalamadi | I'm one of the hardest hit classes, supposedly. |
| 08:43.58 | Galencia | its not about being hard hit |
| 08:43.59 | Kalamadi | <= holy paladin |
| 08:44.00 | Galencia | im not even complaining |
| 08:44.03 | Galencia | its just sad thats all |
| 08:44.05 | Srosh | no, you can't bend your mind to sth new in a completely different environment |
| 08:44.25 | nevcairiel | its not even sad, only because you have to l2p again ? :P |
| 08:44.54 | Kalamadi | Did you ever wonder about that added effect on Transcendance? |
| 08:45.07 | Kalamadi | Where you get the effect of a rank 5 renew tacked onto your greater heal? |
| 08:45.12 | Galencia | look there are two ways of playing a healing priest |
| 08:45.14 | Kalamadi | There was a reason for that, I assure you. |
| 08:45.18 | Galencia | now being holy is pretty pointless |
| 08:45.32 | nevcairiel | you continue to think that :) |
| 08:45.33 | Kalamadi | Yes, because the formulas changed to take talents after gear. |
| 08:45.44 | Srosh | uhm, you know that in TBC all +% talents will be applied after +heal? |
| 08:46.19 | Kalamadi | Galencia, don't be alarmist until you've looked at everything in circumspect. |
| 08:46.21 | Srosh | it's a whole new theorycraft! *g* |
| 08:47.26 | alcaras | is there a way to get the +%hit a player has? (in TBC) |
| 08:47.45 | ckknight_ | yea, there's an API function |
| 08:47.52 | alcaras | there's no GetHitChance, only a GetCritChance |
| 08:47.59 | CIA-17 | 03xinsonic * r15073 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (FuBar_MoneyFu.toc MoneyFuLocale-zhTW.lua): FuBar_MoneyFu: Added zhTW to FuBar_MoneyFu |
| 08:48.03 | alcaras | what's the api func? |
| 08:48.07 | Srosh | there should be, as the default UI will show that too |
| 08:48.16 | Srosh | pretty nice |
| 08:48.23 | Galencia | Kalamadi: execuse me for expressining an opinion |
| 08:48.27 | Galencia | i'll be sure not to in the future |
| 08:49.04 | Kalamadi | My point is that your opinion needs refining. |
| 08:49.14 | Galencia | no, its my opinion |
| 08:49.18 | Galencia | it is how it is |
| 08:49.43 | Galencia | PARIS, France -- Blizzard Entertainment® today announced that the release date for World of Warcraft®: The Burning Crusadeâ.¢, the highly anticipated expansion for World of Warcraft, will be in January 2007. |
| 08:49.54 | Srosh | some call that ignorance, having an opinion is all fine but not listening to argumentation is not |
| 08:50.15 | Galencia | Srosh: sheesh, you people are really up yourselves |
| 08:50.49 | Srosh | well, I believe in discussion not stating opinions and leaving it at that |
| 08:51.24 | Galencia | discussion is illelevant, its all speculation |
| 08:51.28 | Galencia | we'll see in the expansion |
| 08:51.34 | Galencia | all idid was express *personal* reservation |
| 08:51.38 | Galencia | wrong it may be |
| 08:51.40 | Galencia | but still |
| 08:51.57 | Kalamadi | You said that I was wrong and I proved that you had no right to say that. End of discussion. |
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| 08:52.09 | Galencia | show me where i said that |
| 08:52.17 | Galencia | oh wait, i didnt.. |
| 08:52.35 | Kalamadi | "then leave the comments for the big boys, eh?" |
| 08:52.45 | krka | drama! go go go |
| 08:52.58 | Mikma | k |
| 08:53.03 | omega__ | this is like a realm-forum :p |
| 08:53.21 | Galencia | that was in response to a specific comment which you admitted having no experience of |
| 08:53.33 | Galencia | so fine, make me out to be an ass all you want |
| 08:53.35 | Kalamadi | That was BEFORE I admitted to anything. |
| 08:53.57 | Kalamadi | Because you equated shadowpriest to a poor healer |
| 08:54.04 | Kalamadi | And then state that "every player has their own healing style" |
| 08:54.51 | Galencia | fine, you win the internet |
| 08:54.55 | Galencia | peace out. |
| 08:55.17 | Kalamadi | I think I insulted his opinion. |
| 08:55.22 | nevcairiel | alcaras: i think GetCombatRating somehow gets the +hit, but no idea howto use it |
| 08:55.25 | alcaras | yeah |
| 08:55.33 | alcaras | i am digging around in http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/2005991/FrameXML/PaperDollFrame.lua |
| 08:55.56 | alcaras | that is hit rating |
| 08:55.59 | Mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/ctrlaltdel/806/20061023.jpg |
| 08:56.01 | alcaras | GetCombatRating(6); |
| 08:56.29 | alcaras | GetCombatRatingBonus(6) tells how much it is wroth |
| 08:56.39 | alcaras | hot! :) |
| 08:56.51 | alcaras | time to document this thing on wowwiki |
| 08:56.52 | nevcairiel | lol Mikma |
| 08:57.23 | Kalamadi | Thinking about gnome <-> human sex is...well...awkward. |
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| 08:58.40 | Srosh | then don't start to think about Gnome <-> Tauren sex... |
| 08:58.43 | nevcairiel | we better dont go into details |
| 08:59.57 | Kalamadi | How hard is AQ40 from a gearing perspective? |
| 09:00.33 | nevcairiel | you need some massive NR gear on huhuran |
| 09:00.38 | nevcairiel | at least one like 16 people |
| 09:00.43 | evl | massive meaning 200NR+ unbuffed |
| 09:00.45 | evl | without greens |
| 09:00.50 | Kalamadi | Okay. |
| 09:00.57 | vhaarr | maia: pong |
| 09:01.03 | evl | huhuran is a gear checker :) |
| 09:01.10 | nevcairiel | and you need two good tanks for the twins |
| 09:01.11 | evl | need good dps on top of the soaking |
| 09:01.16 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: okay |
| 09:01.17 | Kalamadi | My guild just blew through BWL, so we're fairly underequipped; with good strategy, can we get to Fankriss? |
| 09:01.20 | vhaarr | Kebinusan: how? |
| 09:01.39 | evl | Kalamadi: same with us, Fankriss was no problem |
| 09:01.41 | nevcairiel | skeram is easy, |
| 09:01.49 | abbat_w | Kalamadi, yep if you have good dps ;) |
| 09:01.49 | nevcairiel | sartura, yeah possible |
| 09:02.05 | nevcairiel | fankriss is easy if you get the strategy right |
| 09:02.06 | evl | Kalamadi: we use a druid to tank him, rogues on the alert for worms (BigWigs ftw), at every 25% we aoe the spawns |
| 09:02.12 | abbat_w | Sartura to, some dps required |
| 09:02.16 | evl | easy peasy japanesy |
| 09:02.20 | maia | vhaarr: question regarding your commit messages: why does my RSS reader always display them in a fixed width font, while most other commit messages are displayed in a (normal) variable vidth font? (source: feed://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace/.rss ) |
| 09:02.22 | abbat_w | Heh |
| 09:02.23 | nevcairiel | we dont even aoe the spawns |
| 09:02.27 | nevcairiel | we keep them until fankriss is down |
| 09:02.29 | abbat_w | We use another strategy |
| 09:02.36 | evl | sartura fight is 30% pull, 30% stuns and some luck :) |
| 09:02.37 | nevcairiel | two warrior fankriss, two the spawns |
| 09:02.42 | Mikma | nevcairiel: fix bt2 options |
| 09:02.45 | abbat_w | 3 tanks at spider spawns point hold spiders |
| 09:02.53 | nevcairiel | Mikma: whats broken? |
| 09:03.00 | abbat_w | Raid dps boss and kill snakes |
| 09:03.09 | abbat_w | After we kill boss we aoe spiders |
| 09:03.18 | Mikma | nevcairiel: some assclown has deleted the radiobuttons from rows and changed it to slider |
| 09:03.37 | ckknight_ | for pallies, what's better: Int or Stam? |
| 09:03.37 | abbat_w | Yep, good pool required for sartura ;) |
| 09:03.41 | nevcairiel | we had radiobuttons? |
| 09:03.42 | Kalamadi | Mikma: Do assclowns have assrodeos? |
| 09:03.47 | Kalamadi | ckknight_: For levelling? INT |
| 09:03.48 | CIA-17 | 03xinsonic * r15074 10BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant/BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant.lua: BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant: Added zhTW, thanks to hmj. |
| 09:03.53 | vhaarr | maia: weird .. I don't know :) |
| 09:03.56 | Mikma | nevcairiel: we did. but someone removed them with some revision |
| 09:04.02 | abbat_w | And BigWigs ftw sure in Aq40 ;) |
| 09:04.29 | maia | vhaarr: hmm. problem is that it will only break lines when you specified to do so, so long commit messages in one line are unreadable. |
| 09:04.32 | Kalamadi | I'm not entirely certain how the fights in AQ40 go yet - I've never been in there |
| 09:04.43 | Mikma | Kalamadi: giddiap |
| 09:04.51 | vhaarr | maia: I break up my commit messages, normally. Which one is the problem? |
| 09:05.07 | maia | * All modules are now enabled when you join a raid and disabled when you join a raid. This causes a bit of an issue wit |
| 09:05.14 | nevcairiel | the twin emperors are quite hard on your first trys, 15 mins of full concentration :) |
| 09:05.15 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:05.17 | Kalamadi | Mikma: go go paladin bubblehearth? |
| 09:05.21 | [Ammo] | it causes an issue with shorthands |
| 09:05.44 | [Ammo] | and for instance rainvite and rakeyword |
| 09:06.03 | vhaarr | maia: yeah, that's what it says, what [Ammo] says |
| 09:06.04 | CIA-17 | 03xinsonic * r15075 10BigWigs_KLHTMTarget/BigWigs_KLHTMTarget.lua: BigWigs_KLHTMTarget: Added zhTW, thanks to hmj. |
| 09:06.16 | maia | I see. thanks. |
| 09:06.26 | vhaarr | maia: http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/15047 |
| 09:06.36 | [Ammo] | driving lessons without preemptive coffee are the suck |
| 09:06.49 | [Ammo] | lots of sleepiness and chagrines |
| 09:07.20 | nevcairiel | ammo did you get the message from Saroz ? |
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| 09:07.41 | doktoreas | hi mates |
| 09:08.03 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:08.17 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel I guess I'll have to check CTRA and apply the correct NO's to messages |
| 09:08.24 | nevcairiel | great :) |
| 09:08.33 | CIA-17 | 03xinsonic * r15076 10FuBar_SWStatsFu/SWStatsFuLocals.lua: FuBar_SWStatsFu: Added zhTW, thanks to hmj. |
| 09:10.21 | Mikma | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/trac/log/trunk/Bartender2 |
| 09:10.33 | Mikma | i'll go back to school now |
| 09:11.46 | nevcairiel | i initially coded it as a slider |
| 09:11.47 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 09:14.14 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15077 10oRA2/Participant/Resurrection.lua: oRA2: Fixed NORESSED messages to be compatible with CTRA |
| 09:14.43 | Kalamadi | Yay~ |
| 09:14.46 | Kalamadi | Black Lotus :D |
| 09:15.07 | phyber | morning. |
| 09:15.23 | nevcairiel | morning phyber |
| 09:15.29 | Kalamadi | 'morning |
| 09:15.30 | nevcairiel | Ammo make Optional fire an event, please? :) |
| 09:15.40 | Kalamadi | Here's your troll-gun, we're going hunting |
| 09:15.56 | nevcairiel | anyway, need to shower, brb |
| 09:16.06 | [Ammo] | screw events |
| 09:16.11 | abbat_w | Ammo, btw, you don't plan to include aggro control to ora2? Something like banzaialert? |
| 09:16.11 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 09:16.21 | [Ammo] | banzaialert already hooks into the oRA2 menu |
| 09:16.22 | [Ammo] | use that |
| 09:16.41 | abbat_w | Nice |
| 09:16.56 | abbat_w | Thats all what i need from ora ;) |
| 09:17.06 | [Ammo] | Nevcairiel there is already an event fired |
| 09:17.19 | [Ammo] | "oRA_PlayerResurrected" |
| 09:17.26 | [Ammo] | I'll add the Not as well |
| 09:17.39 | nevcairiel | yeah i meant the not |
| 09:17.45 | nevcairiel | i use the other already |
| 09:18.20 | alcaras | :) |
| 09:18.25 | alcaras | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRating and http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCombatRatingBonus |
| 09:18.36 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 09:19.26 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15078 10oRA2/Optional/Resurrection.lua: oRA2: now fire oRA_PlayerNotResurrected as well |
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| 09:21.17 | doktoreas | mate, sorry is there a guild event manager in ace? |
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| 09:30.26 | Azurewrath | doktoreas: someone is working on something like that i believe.. read it in the forums |
| 09:30.39 | doktoreas | ok thx Azurewrath |
| 09:31.25 | Azurewrath | doktoreas: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1828.0 :) |
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| 10:13.13 | AKX | (Dewdrop, actually. I love it.) |
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| 10:25.50 | [Ammo] | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20061023 |
| 10:29.54 | omega__ | ehhe, yeah, that one rocks |
| 10:30.39 | XLVII | I farmed 200 Bone Fragments today :O |
| 10:31.05 | abbat_w | want to get ToA? |
| 10:32.15 | omega__ | XLVII: where do you farm them? |
| 10:33.19 | evl | i don't bother farming fragments |
| 10:33.21 | abbat_w | strat/scholo i think |
| 10:33.24 | evl | chinese sell them so cheap :P |
| 10:33.29 | abbat_w | yep |
| 10:33.37 | evl | i think I paid about 30g for 250 |
| 10:35.50 | axxo | !notes gmail |
| 10:36.58 | evl | CT_Mail replacement |
| 10:37.00 | evl | works :) |
| 10:37.24 | omega__ | yah, and its quicker too |
| 10:37.49 | abbat_w | and better too |
| 10:37.59 | vhaarr | ckknight: you around? |
| 10:38.11 | abbat_w | btw |
| 10:38.19 | abbat_w | whats happend with oCB? :) |
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| 10:38.39 | abbat_w | i update from svn and my bar have black bg with 50% transparent |
| 10:38.47 | abbat_w | also changes border |
| 10:38.48 | axxo | its bugged! |
| 10:39.09 | axxo | when you click open all and an item is like the zg doll, and you can't take it, it won't continue with the rest ;) |
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| 10:59.37 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r15083 10oSkin/ (9 files): oSkin: Added ColorPicker support for Backdrop, Backdrop Border, Header Text and Body Text colour selection, moved replicated code into the core module, moved ReadyCheckFrame code into RaidUI code |
| 11:02.42 | Galencia | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 11:02.53 | Galencia | sounds like wow 2.0 will be out a lot sooner than TBC |
| 11:03.07 | Galencia | eyonix is a damned tease. |
| 11:04.11 | snurre | wow 2.0 is the version that is shipped on the release discs |
| 11:04.30 | Galencia | no, wow 2.0 is the version people who dont buy the expansion get. |
| 11:05.11 | sylvanaar | yeah, content patch before TBC |
| 11:05.30 | Galencia | with new talents, new honour system etc etc |
| 11:05.36 | Galencia | basically everything except the tbc content |
| 11:05.41 | Galencia | (outlands, level cap, professions) |
| 11:06.29 | Galencia | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38233956&pageNo=4&sid=1#62 |
| 11:06.41 | sylvanaar | wonder if the content patch will be 2.0 or 1.13? |
| 11:06.48 | Galencia | my guess is 2.0 |
| 11:06.54 | Galencia | slouken hinted as much plenty of times |
| 11:07.10 | Galencia | but with it being before tbc.. they might change it to 1.13 i guess |
| 11:07.32 | snurre | from what I heard, 1.13 was cancelled |
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| 11:07.48 | Galencia | read that thread :) |
| 11:08.14 | Galencia | tbc talents.. before tbc, whee |
| 11:09.28 | sylvanaar | wow, i missed that link - the one i read said 'details to come' |
| 11:09.36 | Galencia | :) |
| 11:09.44 | Galencia | i just got it from the rss feed about 10 minutes ago |
| 11:10.16 | Galencia | i stopped to think about the implications for a minute then thought "wow." |
| 11:10.45 | Worf | Another proof that posting to the EU forum is kinda usless: a post here in our devel forums get as many reads in 5 minutes as one gets in a whole day in the Blizz forums |
| 11:10.57 | sylvanaar | i dont know the rss feed info - do you have a link |
| 11:11.20 | Galencia | sylvanaar: its the blue.cardplace.com rss feed |
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| 11:20.28 | sylvanaar | so...patch = public test realm soon |
| 11:20.35 | Galencia | one would hope so! |
| 11:21.09 | sylvanaar | i mean - real soon otherwise theres no time for a test realm |
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| 11:26.40 | Funkeh` | hey all :) |
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| 11:33.59 | [Ammo] | hmm www.wowace.com gives connection refused |
| 11:34.21 | Industrial | nope |
| 11:34.29 | haste | works |
| 11:34.42 | steino | works |
| 11:34.42 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 11:34.44 | Worf | propably only for you. this means: go away :) |
| 11:34.49 | [Ammo] | works again now |
| 11:34.57 | [Ammo] | apache restart maybe? |
| 11:34.58 | Worf | then you may stay :) |
| 11:35.04 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 11:35.07 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 11:35.17 | [Ammo] | btw Worf to answer your question on your CC_Target |
| 11:35.26 | Worf | yeah? |
| 11:35.28 | [Ammo] | it won't work unless you define the unit you want to watch before combat |
| 11:35.37 | [Ammo] | you can't change it during combat |
| 11:36.05 | [Ammo] | so a secondary target is possible, but you'd have to define the unit beforehand: raid13 for instance |
| 11:36.16 | Funkeh` | yey http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38244050&sid=1 more time to kill KT |
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| 11:37.33 | Worf | [Ammo]: like waving goodbye to changing a MT or so in combat... |
| 11:37.37 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 11:37.45 | [Ammo] | exactly |
| 11:38.00 | [Ammo] | not that big a deal |
| 11:38.26 | omega__ | ammo, are you talking about focus? |
| 11:38.31 | omega__ | you cant change focus during combat? |
| 11:38.50 | [Ammo] | I'm talking about custom addons that have their own secondary target |
| 11:38.58 | [Ammo] | you can't change that secondary target during combat |
| 11:39.02 | [Ammo] | or for instance MTs |
| 11:39.04 | Worf | well, there is one good thing tough: since they did that "focus" thing, which is almost CC_Target, there is a way |
| 11:39.06 | [Ammo] | you can't change MTs during combat |
| 11:39.10 | [Ammo] | yeah ok |
| 11:39.14 | [Ammo] | you have a 'focus' unit now |
| 11:39.24 | [Ammo] | you could use that |
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| 11:39.28 | [Ammo] | and rebuild cc-target around it |
| 11:39.32 | Worf | well, sure |
| 11:39.47 | Worf | if not obsolete since blizz allready will do something like that maybe |
| 11:39.52 | Galencia | thats a point, the next patch should have the ui changes in it too |
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| 11:40.16 | [Ammo] | yeah I'll have to stop playing TBC and actualyl do some coding on oRA2 to make it compatible :p |
| 11:40.38 | Galencia | sucks to be you :) |
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| 11:40.47 | Worf | but about all the shortcuts and so, like shift-click = pet attack, what about that? |
| 11:41.06 | Worf | not to mention the spell forward... |
| 11:41.10 | [Ammo] | no spell forwarding |
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| 11:43.59 | Worf | well, i am defenitely not happy with that. and i think that the blizz devs don't eaven know about this imho nice addons |
| 11:43.59 | omega__ | I cant believe there isnt a library to wrap up bank and bag functions (and possibly alts bank and bag) |
| 11:44.20 | omega__ | where you can ask GetItemCount('item', includeBank, includeAltBag, includeAltBags) |
| 11:44.23 | omega__ | or somesuch |
| 11:44.44 | Worf | sure, they know ctra and decursive and so on... |
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| 11:48.22 | omega__ | Worf: my guess is to make ppl think more when playing |
| 11:48.28 | omega__ | to stop addons like hateme/hateyou |
| 11:48.35 | omega__ | hunters spamming only one button etc |
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| 11:50.46 | Worf | omega__: sure. i think i am so upset about TBC right now mostly because i now realize that EU is basically locked out from the Interface discussions. ( but we are good enough to pay more than US ) |
| 11:51.07 | Industrial | yeah that sucks |
| 11:51.16 | Industrial | again and again I have to repeat myself |
| 11:51.18 | Worf | omega__: and i realize what addons they don't want. it's just that they do a lot of collateral damage |
| 11:51.19 | Industrial | localisation sucks. |
| 11:51.25 | Industrial | especially on the internet' |
| 11:51.47 | Worf | in_der_wueste: i can't agree more |
| 11:51.54 | Worf | stupid tab completion |
| 11:52.02 | Worf | Industrial: i can't agree more |
| 11:52.30 | Industrial | Just learn english damnit. I did too so theres no reason some lazy ass other european shouldnt. |
| 11:52.56 | Laricwork | the input that is valid is from us players.. and they are a minority of the players and that makes it even more weird |
| 11:53.54 | omega__ | Worf: yeah, I agree with that |
| 11:54.07 | omega__ | but I dont think the impact will be that great on the vast majority |
| 11:54.12 | Worf | if i knew the consequences, i'd started on US accounts. and i guess my english would be better now too |
| 11:54.13 | omega__ | sure, decursive will be gone |
| 11:54.26 | Industrial | Worf: I now play on US |
| 11:54.26 | omega__ | but blizz acknowledged that and said it would adjust encounters |
| 11:55.05 | Industrial | you can still click frames right? (after you select a spell with an action button) |
| 11:55.40 | Industrial | just show a BRIGHT indicator for every frame that needs it and start clicking |
| 11:55.41 | Industrial | :P |
| 11:55.55 | Worf | actually i don't understand why they don't communicate with communities like this one here. or maybe they do but don't reveal themself :) |
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| 11:56.32 | Worf | lunchtime... brb... |
| 11:56.35 | Industrial | yeah this channel and wowi are the places where all the things they are nerfing come from.. |
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| 12:00.38 | Worf | Industrial: jup. and not all of them are bad tough ( bad from Blizz point of view ) |
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| 12:09.45 | sylvanaar | worf: dont they communicate with this community via thier forums? |
| 12:10.06 | omega__ | not the EU part of it |
| 12:10.10 | Worf | sylvanaar: which forum? |
| 12:10.44 | sylvanaar | wow forums, there isn't an eu one? |
| 12:10.59 | Worf | i posted a view times to "their forums", i never got a answer, and i got about 15 reads within 2 weeks |
| 12:11.14 | Worf | this is not what i call communication |
| 12:11.45 | Worf | this is what i call ignoring |
| 12:12.19 | sylvanaar | yeah - if they logged onto irc - the channel would be spammed, that wouldn't work |
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| 12:13.08 | Worf | yeah. it would be necessary to create some devs only forum or so |
| 12:13.20 | sylvanaar | its wierd how they pick and choose what they will reply to |
| 12:13.47 | sylvanaar | no support ticket system in place |
| 12:14.01 | Worf | sylvanaar: yep, for example |
| 12:14.10 | Mikma | http://img225.echo.cx/img225/3488/iquit6nd.jpg |
| 12:14.18 | omega__ | I've never seen a MMORPG with a ticketsystem |
| 12:14.52 | sylvanaar | i guess in game GM tickets |
| 12:15.01 | sylvanaar | those are a ticket system |
| 12:15.17 | sylvanaar | but not the kind i mean |
| 12:15.22 | omega__ | mhm |
| 12:15.34 | omega__ | I was thinking like bugzilla or trac or flyspray or whatever :p |
| 12:16.17 | sylvanaar | yeah, but it just occured to me that those do folllow a similar flow thats all |
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| 12:18.07 | Industrial | anyone wanna play some half life1:tfc? |
| 12:19.33 | sylvanaar | mikma: like the pic - it should say "i never quit" |
| 12:20.08 | CIA-17 | 03ag 07TBC * r15084 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: |
| 12:20.08 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 12:20.08 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:22.24 | evl | I should give agUF another go :) |
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| 12:22.34 | evl | last time my whole wow froze when I accessed the status submenu or something :D |
| 12:22.49 | Mikma | nevcairiel: the slider is suck. radiobuttons rock more since people are asking me how can they use 9 rows :P |
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| 12:30.09 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15085 10BigWigs/AQ40/Defenders.lua: BigWigs (Defenders): added 6 second explosion bar |
| 12:31.33 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r15086 10BigWigs/AQ40/Skeram.lua: BigWigs (Skeram): split command removed from menu to avoid foncusion |
| 12:31.41 | XLVII | foncusion aye? |
| 12:31.41 | XLVII | ;F |
| 12:31.45 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:31.53 | [Ammo] | are you foncused yet? |
| 12:31.53 | omega__ | [Ammo]: a warning I always wanted in BigWigs was teh exploding bats in ZG |
| 12:32.07 | [Ammo] | dps faster |
| 12:32.10 | [Ammo] | they won't explode |
| 12:32.14 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 12:32.15 | usz | ^^ |
| 12:32.17 | Funkeh` | they do now |
| 12:32.17 | omega__ | hehe :p |
| 12:32.19 | XLVII | sure am foncused |
| 12:32.19 | Mikma | lol sucky updates [Ammo] |
| 12:32.22 | Funkeh` | they unerfed it |
| 12:32.26 | Mikma | code something usefull for change |
| 12:32.53 | Mikma | yeah the bats didn't explode for short timee |
| 12:32.58 | Mikma | now they do it again :D |
| 12:33.08 | Mikma | *boof* owie! |
| 12:33.50 | omega__ | it was bugged in patch 1.11 or something |
| 12:34.01 | omega__ | they started exploding again in 1.12 I think |
| 12:34.19 | Mikma | something like that |
| 12:34.39 | [Ammo] | I mean |
| 12:34.42 | [Ammo] | they warn for explosion |
| 12:34.48 | [Ammo] | but you can kill them before they actually go boom |
| 12:34.50 | Mikma | people can't see it in chat |
| 12:34.50 | [Ammo] | if you do decent dps |
| 12:34.56 | [Ammo] | use bloody witchhunt |
| 12:35.01 | [Ammo] | it shows up in the middle of your screen |
| 12:35.05 | Mikma | i do others don't they are idiots. |
| 12:35.15 | [Ammo] | then they can die like the idiots they are ) |
| 12:35.23 | Funkeh` | you will find people who die from explosion are always alts |
| 12:35.30 | Mikma | i toggled witchhunt to show only my target casts.. that's pretty stupid feature so i hate you ammo |
| 12:35.48 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 12:35.49 | omega__ | kk, if witchhunt warns it it, its fine |
| 12:36.01 | omega__ | another addon to install :) |
| 12:36.07 | Mikma | it's a must |
| 12:36.22 | Mikma | i did play a period without it and i wonder how i managed |
| 12:36.25 | abbat_w | Mikma |
| 12:36.30 | Mikma | now that i started pvp, witchhunt is love |
| 12:36.30 | abbat_w | Try Antagonist |
| 12:36.37 | Mikma | abbat_w: nah :P |
| 12:36.48 | omega__ | I use Antagonish |
| 12:36.50 | Funkeh` | antagonist afaik is mostly pvp based |
| 12:36.56 | abbat_w | Sure |
| 12:36.57 | nazrm | anyone else getting an AceHook-2.1 error? :/ no addons load because of it |
| 12:37.03 | Mikma | too much data on screen :D |
| 12:37.04 | Funkeh` | i dont think you will see exploding bat bars :P |
| 12:37.14 | abbat_w | And this mod have nice feature, they split all casts in 3 categories |
| 12:37.14 | omega__ | nazrm: upgrade the AceHook-2.1 in all the addons that use it to the newest version |
| 12:37.36 | nazrm | hm, okay |
| 12:37.49 | abbat_w | Hmm... |
| 12:38.01 | *** join/#wowace manub (n=flea@81-208-83-237.fastres.net) |
| 12:38.11 | abbat_w | Where i can get right version of AceHook-2.1? |
| 12:38.16 | [Ammo] | svn up |
| 12:38.17 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 12:38.18 | abbat_w | Need to fix my ErrorMonster ;) |
| 12:38.25 | abbat_w | !!!Libraries? |
| 12:38.27 | [Ammo] | no |
| 12:38.30 | [Ammo] | svn update |
| 12:38.46 | abbat_w | I use WAU |
| 12:39.00 | [Ammo] | then you're shafted until someone touches ErrorMonster |
| 12:39.03 | abbat_w | And i think i need manual update |
| 12:39.03 | manub | anyone experienced this updating mods now? I can't figure what mod it is... apparently all works fine. http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/umiBmO10.html |
| 12:39.04 | Mikma | only noobs use library-packages |
| 12:39.32 | abbat_w | Btw it's possible to identify addon which load old AceHook? |
| 12:40.39 | Funkeh` | im curious btw, if you have like 5 addons use 2.1 and 5 using 2.0 your gonna have both in memory? so memory wasted? |
| 12:40.43 | Mikma | abbat_w: first one loads it ;) |
| 12:40.53 | [Ammo] | you will have both in memory yeah |
| 12:40.55 | Mikma | Funkeh`: yeah, both in memory |
| 12:40.57 | [Ammo] | since they are not aware of eachother |
| 12:41.05 | Funkeh` | darn |
| 12:41.08 | XLVII | http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html |
| 12:41.08 | haste | it's not memory wasted however |
| 12:41.31 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 12:41.34 | omega__ | Funkeh`: still its better than each addon implementing the functions in acehook on their own |
| 12:41.36 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15087 10TooltipExchange/: TooltipExchange - Fixing Externals |
| 12:41.42 | usz | btw [Ammo], dunno if its to you, but yesterday Fankriss spawns enrage timer was a little bit wrong |
| 12:41.50 | [Ammo] | it's always wrong |
| 12:42.01 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3175 |
| 12:42.06 | Mikma | [+] - Added FuBar 2.0 Plugin support. |
| 12:42.08 | Mikma | whoa |
| 12:42.10 | usz | amg damaju, what did i screw up with externals? |
| 12:42.15 | [Ammo] | they enrage a short time after actual spawn |
| 12:42.19 | usz | damjau* |
| 12:42.20 | Mikma | [+] - You can now link quests from your quest log. |
| 12:42.22 | Mikma | WHOA! |
| 12:42.23 | [Ammo] | but the bar is generated as they spawn |
| 12:42.27 | Mikma | bb monkeyquest ;) |
| 12:42.32 | Damjau | why? |
| 12:42.58 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: add +1sec, lol :P |
| 12:43.45 | [Ammo] | euhm |
| 12:43.46 | [Ammo] | no |
| 12:43.55 | [Ammo] | because they spawn 1-5 seconds after he casts it |
| 12:43.58 | [Ammo] | it's kinda random |
| 12:44.03 | [Ammo] | so the bars are wrong |
| 12:44.04 | Funkeh` | was kidding ;p |
| 12:44.09 | [Ammo] | they're just there to remind you to spank spank spank |
| 12:45.01 | manub | hm |
| 12:45.17 | manub | I figured it, it is a oRA2 issue: ammo can you take a look at this? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/umiBmO10.html |
| 12:45.42 | Mikma | [Ammo]: pvp much? |
| 12:45.50 | [Ammo] | manub: it's not an ora2 issue |
| 12:45.58 | abbat_w | Hmm... Ok, what is easyest way to fix ErrorMonster AceHook? |
| 12:46.10 | usz | [Ammo], ok - that explains it |
| 12:46.12 | manub | ammo: then some other mod touched ace2library? |
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| 12:46.43 | [Ammo] | wouter@connected:~/wow/svn/trunk/oRA2$ rgrep "GetShortSpellIcon" * |
| 12:46.44 | [Ammo] | wouter@connected:~/wow/svn/trunk/oRA2$ |
| 12:46.51 | [Ammo] | there is no such think in oRA2 |
| 12:46.54 | [Ammo] | so it's not my addon |
| 12:46.57 | [Ammo] | now shooo |
| 12:47.03 | Mikma | [Ammo]: answer me bastard |
| 12:47.06 | [Ammo] | Mikma: I don't pvp much |
| 12:47.11 | [Ammo] | I find WoW pvp lackluster |
| 12:47.15 | [Ammo] | there is no danger |
| 12:47.18 | [Ammo] | you can't lose a thing |
| 12:47.22 | [Ammo] | so it's not worth my time |
| 12:47.22 | abbat_w | =) |
| 12:47.24 | manub | hmm |
| 12:47.24 | evl | WSG is nice |
| 12:47.27 | evl | it's about honor :) |
| 12:47.28 | abbat_w | yep |
| 12:47.28 | Mikma | [Ammo]: well the crashes i'm talking in forums are happening while pvp :P so you should pvp ;) |
| 12:47.33 | haste | PvP was actually a little bit fun in TBC |
| 12:47.33 | evl | AO PVP was superior on that sense |
| 12:47.34 | abbat_w | wsg is nice |
| 12:47.35 | evl | Tower battles |
| 12:47.41 | evl | those towers weren't exactly cheap |
| 12:47.46 | [Ammo] | I come from pk MUDs |
| 12:47.49 | Mikma | haste: everyone says that the arena is megafun |
| 12:47.52 | [Ammo] | where if you die you lose all your gear |
| 12:47.54 | evl | < - hehe Medievia verteran |
| 12:47.56 | abbat_w | Ammo should do some pvp sure ;) |
| 12:47.56 | manub | ammo: do you know how can I find what mode is issuing this? I need to deactivate all mods? :) |
| 12:47.57 | haste | Haven't tried the arenas |
| 12:48.04 | haste | only playing with the towers |
| 12:48.04 | evl | Chaotic Playerkilling Area for the win!!! |
| 12:48.09 | haste | with two others |
| 12:48.10 | evl | dead -> all gear lost |
| 12:48.12 | [Ammo] | manub: no clue, try and find which addon requires that translation |
| 12:48.13 | evl | all gold lost |
| 12:48.16 | Mikma | [Ammo]: thenoobcomic.com? ;) |
| 12:48.27 | [Ammo] | hmm? |
| 12:48.32 | [Ammo] | I know the noob |
| 12:48.33 | [Ammo] | why |
| 12:48.50 | manub | kk I will try it, thx ammo |
| 12:49.01 | Mikma | [Ammo]: it has so many lootwhore-stories about the pk'ers stealing gear :D |
| 12:49.07 | [Ammo] | hehe yeah |
| 12:49.14 | [Ammo] | well I played some hardcore pk muds |
| 12:49.20 | [Ammo] | but being a pretty good programmer |
| 12:49.24 | [Ammo] | I wrote handy proxies |
| 12:49.28 | [Ammo] | which showed overhead maps |
| 12:49.32 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 12:49.33 | Mikma | haha |
| 12:49.34 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 12:49.35 | Mikma | maphacker! |
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| 12:49.57 | [Ammo] | I think I died 3 times in 4 years to PK |
| 12:50.07 | [Ammo] | it's all about being quick |
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| 12:50.35 | [Ammo] | and quick can be augmented by programming :) |
| 12:51.25 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15089 10TinyTipExtras/ (7 files): TinyTipExtras - update koKR |
| 12:52.30 | Mikma | [Ammo]: http://thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip033.html |
| 12:53.34 | [Ammo] | hehe yeah |
| 12:53.37 | [Ammo] | thenoob pwns |
| 12:55.21 | snurre | the named GM in that series is actually a RL friend of mine who played daoc with the author |
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| 12:58.54 | Wobin | and lack of latency =\ |
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| 13:05.42 | Miles|zzz | bleh |
| 13:05.50 | Mikma | sure |
| 13:05.54 | Mikma | i'll have 2 |
| 13:06.20 | Miles|zzz | is this some kind of joke? AceHook-2.0 errors out with zomg it's deprecated |
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| 13:08.10 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15090 10MD5Lib/ (. MD5-2.0/ MD5-2.0/MD5-2.0.lua MD5Lib.toc): |
| 13:08.10 | CIA-17 | .MD5Lib |
| 13:08.10 | CIA-17 | - initial commit (Message-Digest algorithm 5 implementation) |
| 13:08.14 | Mikma | oh god how we need dreamchat :( |
| 13:08.22 | Mikma | umh |
| 13:08.25 | Mikma | that's not good... |
| 13:08.42 | Mikma | blizz has a strick policy about addons like that :P |
| 13:08.50 | usz | they do? |
| 13:08.57 | Miles|zzz | lol |
| 13:09.04 | Miles|zzz | md5 considered harmful? |
| 13:09.06 | Mikma | atleast i have heard urban legends of people getting banned |
| 13:09.18 | usz | wait up next import then |
| 13:09.23 | usz | ^^ |
| 13:09.23 | Mikma | or am i mistaking somehow |
| 13:09.34 | Mikma | MD5 as crypt / decrypt? |
| 13:09.46 | usz | next one after i fix keywords and externals on this one is gonna be TEA - Tiny Encryption Algorythm |
| 13:09.54 | haste | md5 is a one way algorythm |
| 13:10.01 | usz | MD5 as hash generation lib |
| 13:10.13 | Mikma | well atleast i think you should make sure of their policy about that one |
| 13:10.25 | Mikma | dont want people to get banneed because of that |
| 13:10.35 | Industrial | md5 is one way encryption |
| 13:10.43 | yacoob | hm, wht do you need that for, that md5 lib? |
| 13:10.46 | haste | I think Mikma has been smoking something now |
| 13:10.53 | Mikma | haste: negative :P |
| 13:10.59 | Industrial | but its now fool proof, cause more strings can get the same md5 hash |
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| 13:11.04 | Industrial | not fool proof* |
| 13:11.07 | Mikma | blizz doesn't like any crypting-methods |
| 13:11.17 | usz | pfff they are nubs ^^ |
| 13:11.21 | Mikma | but like i said, make sure |
| 13:11.21 | Industrial | they cant do anything about it |
| 13:12.05 | Industrial | cause its all just strings |
| 13:12.05 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:12.05 | haste | yeh |
| 13:12.05 | Mikma | oh well |
| 13:12.05 | haste | md5 is not evil at all |
| 13:12.05 | Mikma | that's true |
| 13:12.05 | Mikma | ctra uses strings and numbers too :P |
| 13:12.05 | Industrial | but I dont see its use in wow |
| 13:12.07 | Industrial | md5 :s |
| 13:12.19 | Industrial | usz: were/are you using it for something? |
| 13:12.21 | haste | usz: why call it 2.0 if it's the first major revision ? |
| 13:12.44 | usz | so its like all teh leet 2.0 addons and to suggest its all fine with Ace2 |
| 13:12.54 | vhaarr | it should be -1.0. |
| 13:13.19 | usz | damn, tbh i have no idea how to handle file renaming in SVN |
| 13:13.27 | usz | but lets try |
| 13:13.27 | haste | well, most of the leet 2.0 add ons had a major revision from before in Ace1 |
| 13:13.32 | Mikma | svn help rename |
| 13:13.38 | Mikma | if you use commandprompt |
| 13:14.01 | usz | nvm i see rename in explorer snv menu |
| 13:14.23 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15091 10oRA2/Options.lua: oRA2 - Update option koKR |
| 13:16.44 | snurre | heh, just abandoned engineering and took enchanting |
| 13:16.48 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15092 10MD5Lib/ (. MD5-1.0/ MD5-1.0/MD5-2.0.lua MD5-2.0/ MD5Lib.toc): |
| 13:16.49 | CIA-17 | MD5Lib |
| 13:16.49 | CIA-17 | - externals plus fixing naming convention part 1 |
| 13:17.11 | snurre | 29 nexuses from cleaning my bank, and more than half the "useless" stuff is still there :p |
| 13:17.28 | Mikma | 29 :P |
| 13:18.11 | snurre | had 94 epics, about 80ish left now |
| 13:19.23 | usz | zzz to rename folder + files in it you need 2 commits |
| 13:19.40 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15093 10MD5Lib/MD5-1.0/ (MD5-1.0.lua MD5-2.0.lua): |
| 13:19.40 | CIA-17 | MD5Lib |
| 13:19.40 | CIA-17 | - fixing naming convention part 2 |
| 13:20.09 | usz | anyway wont make same mistake with next lib |
| 13:21.19 | usz | and about encryption with WoW, me and my guild have been using crypted channels for some time now and noone got banned or warned from GMs |
| 13:23.07 | snurre | not like GMs are scanning chats or something like that.. |
| 13:23.28 | krka | are you sure about that?!? |
| 13:23.41 | snurre | unless youre reported for violating ToU, EULA or behaviour policies, GMs won't do anything |
| 13:24.07 | Mikma | snurre: but they do have logs of everything |
| 13:24.24 | usz | you think they are loggin SendAddonMessage channels? |
| 13:24.27 | snurre | logs, yes.. but nowhere near the manpower to scan through everything realtime |
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| 13:24.43 | Mikma | snurre: lol who talked about realtime :D |
| 13:24.52 | Mikma | usz: no idea about that one |
| 13:24.54 | snurre | how else then? |
| 13:25.00 | snurre | why would they scan it? |
| 13:25.10 | haste | cat log.txt | grep "evil talk" ! |
| 13:25.17 | usz | someone reports, points time and chat, then they "look into it" |
| 13:25.44 | snurre | and what exactly would they report someone using MD5 for? |
| 13:25.49 | snurre | and why would they do anything? |
| 13:25.59 | snurre | which policy does it break? |
| 13:26.05 | haste | none |
| 13:26.09 | snurre | exactly |
| 13:26.11 | haste | the md5 can't be used for anything anyway |
| 13:26.14 | Wobin | rofl |
| 13:26.14 | Wobin | http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp10042006.shtml |
| 13:26.17 | Wobin | I love somethingpositive =P |
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| 13:26.28 | Wobin | start there and read the rest of the arc |
| 13:29.56 | haste | http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/200610/netscapeMayInclude.gif :D |
| 13:30.34 | Mikma | heh |
| 13:32.40 | abbat_w | Hmm... I dl last ErrorMonster, they have AceHook 2.1 |
| 13:32.54 | abbat_w | local MAJOR_VERSION = "AceHook-2.1" |
| 13:32.54 | abbat_w | local MINOR_VERSION = "$Revision: 14013 $" |
| 13:33.55 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15094 10TEALib/ (. TEALib.toc Tea-1.0/ Tea-1.0/TEA-1.0.lua): |
| 13:33.55 | CIA-17 | .TEALib |
| 13:33.55 | CIA-17 | - initial commit (Tiny Encryption Algorythm implementation) |
| 13:34.09 | usz | now you can discuss more ^^ |
| 13:34.18 | krka | wtf, encryption in wow? |
| 13:34.22 | krka | why would you need that? |
| 13:34.32 | abbat_w | Are 14013 it's last version? |
| 13:34.34 | krka | secure gold transfers over mail? |
| 13:34.40 | Wobin | muhaha |
| 13:34.50 | Wobin | PGP keys =P |
| 13:34.53 | usz | secure gold sellers ingame help |
| 13:35.02 | Wobin | So you know your gold buying mails are from verified gold sellers |
| 13:35.03 | usz | naaa this is single key cypher |
| 13:35.06 | abbat_w | eBay going into wow? :) |
| 13:36.22 | sbu | hm encrypted guild chat? :p |
| 13:36.25 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15095 10TEALib/ (. TEALib.toc Tea-1.0/TEA-1.0.lua): |
| 13:36.25 | CIA-17 | TEALib |
| 13:36.25 | CIA-17 | - updated externals |
| 13:37.00 | Wobin | Encrypt Addon_message info I guess =P |
| 13:37.17 | usz | well, wait for addon import that uses those libs ^^ |
| 13:37.32 | usz | called it PrivateChat |
| 13:37.33 | Mikma | TEABAGGING! |
| 13:38.19 | Wobin | Tiny Encryption Algorithm By Applying Genitals |
| 13:38.33 | Mikma | cool. |
| 13:38.49 | Wobin | You'd be surprised at how much can be fixed by applying genitals |
| 13:39.00 | AKX | I fail to see how the practice of teabagging encrypts... but maybe I'm just luckily inexperienced |
| 13:39.10 | Wobin | Keep your innocence |
| 13:39.14 | Wobin | You're better off not knowing =) |
| 13:39.15 | AKX | Hardly. |
| 13:39.16 | Mikma | AKX: why do you sound so familiar |
| 13:39.20 | usz | if anyone is interested here is TEA homepage http://www.simonshepherd.supanet.com/tea.htm |
| 13:39.21 | Mikma | AKX: you code addons? :P |
| 13:39.28 | AKX | I play a night elf druidess, Wobin. Cat form != innocence |
| 13:39.36 | AKX | And yes, Mikma. Chatr, Mubble. |
| 13:39.38 | Mikma | oh yes you do, ChatR |
| 13:39.49 | Mikma | AKX: terve. nuff said |
| 13:40.01 | Wobin | Woo chatr |
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| 13:40.22 | AKX | Chatr, which had been nuked due to someone destroying ui.wow.net ;) |
| 13:40.38 | Mikma | AKX: i was about to actually make a post for you in ui.worldofwar.net and ask you to join here :) |
| 13:40.54 | Wobin | AKX: wotwot? |
| 13:41.06 | Mikma | Wobin: chatr was deleted from ui.wow.net |
| 13:41.13 | Mikma | it's there again but without descriptions |
| 13:41.17 | Wobin | oh. |
| 13:41.21 | Mikma | AKX: HEY i have a job for you :D |
| 13:41.28 | AKX | OK... |
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| 13:41.32 | Wobin | I thought AKX was saying that ui.worldofwar was nuked |
| 13:41.36 | AKX | And also, erm, Mikma, should I know you? ;P |
| 13:41.45 | AKX | Well yeah Wobin, the most popular addons were |
| 13:41.49 | Wobin | ~mikma |
| 13:41.51 | purl | Mikma is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT either |
| 13:41.55 | Mikma | AKX: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2571.0 / http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2571.0;id=835;image |
| 13:41.59 | Mikma | AKX: no :) |
| 13:42.05 | Wobin | Meh, that kinda sucks =\ |
| 13:42.20 | Mikma | Wobin: well make a better one with catchy phrase in it |
| 13:42.20 | AKX | No, it doesn't Wobin. If my addon was nuked, it means I'm popular! \o/ |
| 13:42.43 | Wobin | I was referring to the nuking =P |
| 13:43.05 | Wobin | PS <3 Bant |
| 13:43.16 | Mikma | Wobin: oh ok, i thought you just meant [Ammo], which sucks too |
| 13:43.34 | AKX | Hmm, well Mikma. That is a beautiful sketch, yeah |
| 13:43.53 | AKX | But since I wouldn't personally want that, it's kinda hard to start coding it ;) |
| 13:44.04 | Mikma | bah |
| 13:44.35 | Mikma | we need people who are familiar on how the chat works to code DreamChat :P |
| 13:44.42 | AKX | I know how it works. |
| 13:44.50 | oxman | nobody want code dreamchat ? really ? |
| 13:44.59 | Mikma | oxman: vhaarr and nevcairiel and me. |
| 13:45.07 | oxman | so what's the problem ? |
| 13:45.11 | Mikma | i don't know how to do it but i would like to help them ;) |
| 13:45.15 | AKX | But... have you actually taken a peek at how much code FCF is? |
| 13:45.20 | Mikma | well the problem is they don't knjow where to start |
| 13:45.25 | AKX | FCF being FloatingChatFrame, the main chat frames |
| 13:45.30 | Mikma | AKX: exactly. that's the problem they have |
| 13:45.36 | Wobin | er hid |
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| 13:45.57 | Wobin | You spend more time hooking than anything else =P |
| 13:46.01 | AKX | Not really |
| 13:46.04 | AKX | No hooking needed |
| 13:46.09 | usz | well i know how chat works ^^ |
| 13:46.10 | Mikma | with the concept they had in mind they really need to hook alot of stuff :P |
| 13:46.27 | AKX | Err, well, since that's mostly a REPLACEMENT of FCF, hooking is not what you want to do |
| 13:46.27 | Wobin | usz can write it! =) |
| 13:46.28 | Mikma | AKX: where in finland do you live? |
| 13:46.35 | Mikma | Wobin: righton! |
| 13:46.35 | AKX | Mikma - near Turku |
| 13:46.45 | sbu | mhh usz: wow + private chat? :o |
| 13:46.54 | usz | yea yea commiting it now |
| 13:46.57 | Mikma | AKX: ok, i live near turku too ;) next to Tampere ;D |
| 13:47.00 | sbu | would only make sense if you use ist in public channels / multiple recpss. |
| 13:47.20 | Wobin | hm, encrypted channels |
| 13:47.23 | usz | atm my addon works only via GUILD comm |
| 13:47.34 | sbu | ah |
| 13:47.45 | usz | still it adds fully functional chat channels, with /slash commands and options to set colors etc |
| 13:47.46 | sbu | so its an privileged guild chat? |
| 13:48.09 | usz | lets say it uses SendAddonMessage, need to still add more options for different transports |
| 13:48.18 | usz | ofc it uses AceComm |
| 13:48.26 | usz | but need more settings etc |
| 13:48.37 | usz | anyway back to commiting it |
| 13:48.57 | AKX | Hmm, well, DreamChat indeed would not require hooking at all. |
| 13:49.11 | AKX | ... Except for compatibility with mods that do links |
| 13:49.12 | usz | you need to hook FCF for saving color settings |
| 13:49.24 | Wobin | or save your own |
| 13:49.28 | AKX | usz, no, you don't, if you completely disregard FCF |
| 13:49.35 | AKX | Since that's not FCF, it's DreamChat |
| 13:49.36 | Mikma | crayonelib? or so |
| 13:50.06 | usz | hmm, need to look more into it, anyway i hooked into normal wow chat settings and message processing |
| 13:50.19 | AKX | usz, yes, well, I think that's a Bad Idea |
| 13:50.26 | AKX | Since FCF works by processing events |
| 13:50.33 | usz | i hook 3 FCF and SendChatMessage |
| 13:50.54 | AKX | .. right, usz, you hook them for what? |
| 13:50.59 | AKX | (I'm missing the context) |
| 13:51.20 | usz | for saving my channel color settings, from normal chat config menu |
| 13:51.39 | AKX | For what? |
| 13:51.41 | AKX | Some addon? |
| 13:51.44 | usz | aye |
| 13:51.44 | AKX | Or just saving? |
| 13:51.57 | usz | yes for some addon, that dynamically registers virtual channels |
| 13:52.00 | AKX | Ahh |
| 13:52.02 | AKX | Alright :) |
| 13:52.09 | usz | hope that gives you right picture :D |
| 13:52.14 | AKX | Yeah, I kinda get it now |
| 13:52.18 | Mikma | this is neat |
| 13:52.29 | Mikma | we now have 2x chatexperts here to help vhaarr and nevcairiel D: |
| 13:52.32 | AKX | But basically DreamChat would be a replacement for FCF? |
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| 13:52.43 | AKX | I mean, there's no reason for using FCF with DC? |
| 13:52.49 | usz | i dont know ^^ |
| 13:52.52 | abbat_w | yep |
| 13:53.03 | abbat_w | Are we have any expert of AceHook lib? :) |
| 13:53.06 | usz | lemme commit my neat crypto-super-private-dyanamic-channel addon :D |
| 13:53.15 | AKX | In that case, YES, it's a lot of code, but YES, it can be done without the cruft that is FCF |
| 13:53.26 | usz | FCF is hell |
| 13:53.30 | AKX | qft. |
| 13:53.45 | usz | and normal chat is hell aswell to properly register channels, as you need to use _G alot |
| 13:54.08 | AKX | I use setglobal and getglobal. Has anyone profiled those, btw? |
| 13:54.19 | usz | should be safe effect |
| 13:54.35 | usz | as getfenv(0) just gives you table pointer to env |
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| 13:55.16 | usz | so setglobal("xxx", ...) would actually be getfenv(0)["xxx"] = ... |
| 13:55.29 | AKX | I'm scared of tables nowadays |
| 13:55.42 | usz | lua is all about tables ^^ |
| 13:55.43 | AKX | ChatrBuddies <0.9.3 used to leak tons |
| 13:55.47 | usz | thats wh compost ftw |
| 13:55.52 | pastamancer | A table bit my sister once. |
| 13:55.53 | usz | why* |
| 13:56.00 | AKX | Yeah, I know usz. |
| 13:56.20 | usz | i composted almost everything i could in my TooltipExchange mod which works on tables contantly |
| 13:56.31 | JoshBorke | Compost is NOT the solution to all table worries :-/ |
| 13:56.44 | usz | still it helps alot |
| 13:56.49 | Wobin | no, but it helps |
| 13:56.55 | Wobin | Well, pre 2.0 |
| 13:56.58 | Wobin | (5.1) |
| 13:57.04 | usz | grrr need to do that commit finally... |
| 13:57.21 | JoshBorke | it's better to code smarter |
| 13:57.35 | Wobin | well that can be said of just about anything =P |
| 13:57.42 | AKX | Hey, btw, yeah, what are the most important changes I need to do in preparation for 5.1? |
| 13:57.45 | Wobin | It's a given =) |
| 13:57.56 | Wobin | hm, string.gfind is now string.gmatch |
| 13:58.06 | Wobin | and math.mod is math.fmod I think |
| 13:58.07 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15096 10PrivateChat/ (. Core.lua Libs/ PrivateChat.toc): |
| 13:58.07 | CIA-17 | .PrivateChat |
| 13:58.07 | CIA-17 | - initial commit (Creates virtual cyphered chat channels over guild addon communication channel) |
| 13:58.16 | Wobin | and you need to use for i,v in pairs() |
| 13:58.19 | Wobin | for for loops |
| 13:58.28 | usz | you can use pairs() already now |
| 13:58.28 | Wobin | have a look at lua.org for the changelog |
| 13:58.33 | Wobin | well yes |
| 13:58.36 | JoshBorke | it's k,v in pairs or i,v in ipairs ;-) |
| 13:58.46 | Wobin | Which is why I don't have to change anything =P |
| 13:58.49 | usz | so its a good practive to use pairs already |
| 13:58.52 | Wobin | I've been using it all along |
| 13:59.30 | oxman | hum SetBindingSpell don't work with the internal selfcast, anyone can say that to Slouken ? |
| 13:59.34 | Wobin | always been more intuitive to me to use that |
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| 14:00.21 | Wobin | oh, and there'll be incremental GC in 5.1 |
| 14:00.31 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15097 10PrivateChat/ (. PrivateChat.toc): |
| 14:00.31 | CIA-17 | PrivateChat |
| 14:00.31 | CIA-17 | - updated externals |
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| 14:01.07 | usz | anyways if you are interested how to fully hook default blizzard chat functions to dynamically create/remove virtual channels feel free to look at http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PrivateChat/Core.lua |
| 14:01.56 | Mikma | usz: that might help vhaarr on the job ;) |
| 14:02.02 | usz | cuz in this addon i manage to get full registration of channel from scratch by manipulating global vars |
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| 14:02.13 | JoshBorke | usz: encrypted? |
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| 14:02.37 | usz | well hooking chat aint encrypted ^^ only AceComm transmition |
| 14:03.26 | Mikma | usz: you should paste your link to DreamChat post and explain the same thing there ;) |
| 14:03.46 | usz | i am lazy, gimmie link to exact post plx ^^ |
| 14:04.31 | yacoob | *gasp* |
| 14:04.36 | yacoob | I've actually been given a job offer in Tokyo. |
| 14:04.57 | usz | anyways is there some Item Tooltip processing lib around for disecting item stats or i have to code one from the beginning? |
| 14:05.19 | AKX | Congrats yacoob :) |
| 14:05.26 | usz | idd gratz :) |
| 14:05.26 | AKX | usz, I think I just saw one |
| 14:05.35 | usz | where did you see it? |
| 14:05.45 | AKX | in /files |
| 14:05.48 | usz | but i bet i wont like it and write my own |
| 14:05.50 | usz | pff :) |
| 14:06.05 | AKX | Mikma, I just replied to the DreamChat thread |
| 14:06.07 | Sairen | usz: Gratuity lib |
| 14:06.11 | AKX | That's the one |
| 14:06.25 | usz | ok will take a look later |
| 14:06.57 | usz | ow noes think i screwed TEA import zzz, back to fixing SVN stuff |
| 14:08.42 | Mikma | AKX: good post. you should also tell people that you are author of ChatR and you will get flooded with messages xD |
| 14:09.33 | AKX | Done Mikma. |
| 14:09.44 | usz | noes, how do i change case in SVN? do i need to rename first to some other name and then back to proper cased name? |
| 14:10.05 | Mikma | AKX: hehe. now just sit back and watch the messages |
| 14:11.38 | Wobin | AKX: I suspect that last bit (nuking FCF) will be the most satisfying =P |
| 14:11.56 | AKX | Probably |
| 14:12.07 | Wobin | meh |
| 14:12.13 | AKX | Now, who stole my genesis emulator? |
| 14:12.17 | Wobin | I keep intending for patchday to be a coding day |
| 14:12.21 | Wobin | but it's already 12 |
| 14:12.46 | Wobin | Night all |
| 14:13.30 | AKX | Nightnight |
| 14:14.39 | Mikma | AKX: [Ammo] did, he's a meanie |
| 14:15.08 | evl | TBC delay: "I felt a great disturbance in Azeroth, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror...and went RIGHT back to raiding again." |
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| 14:15.40 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15098 10TEALib/ (Tea-1.0/ Tea-1.0_/): |
| 14:15.40 | CIA-17 | TEALib |
| 14:15.40 | CIA-17 | - fixing name casing part 1 |
| 14:16.15 | yacoob | AKX, now I'm beginning to think. Fast. |
| 14:16.38 | sbu | mhh, hvae to try that |
| 14:16.54 | Xuerian|Sleep | TEALib? |
| 14:17.08 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15099 10TEALib/ (TEA-1.0/ Tea-1.0_/): |
| 14:17.08 | CIA-17 | TEALib |
| 14:17.08 | CIA-17 | - fixing name casing part 2 |
| 14:17.23 | AKX | WTF.... the lights outside (=sun) just flickered |
| 14:17.25 | usz | Xuerian|Sleep, encryption lib |
| 14:18.22 | Galencia | what possible use for encrpytion could you have in wow? :) |
| 14:18.38 | Saroz | Ello peeps |
| 14:18.52 | usz | well, its lib, because you dont have to use it, but if you find good use for it, there it is! |
| 14:19.23 | usz | i use it for my PrivateChat addon, with virtual encrypted channels over addon comm in guild |
| 14:19.23 | Xuerian|Sleep | nifty |
| 14:19.41 | Saroz | lol, my realm is gonna be down for 36 hours |
| 14:19.42 | Saroz | gg |
| 14:19.53 | usz | gratz, mine did last maintance |
| 14:20.25 | sbu | Saroz: nice :o |
| 14:20.26 | Angeris_ | what? |
| 14:20.28 | Angeris_ | where? |
| 14:20.33 | Angeris_ | i didnt see any post? |
| 14:20.35 | Angeris_ | i didnt see any post |
| 14:20.45 | Xuerian | hmh. Very nice |
| 14:20.54 | snurre | all old realms will go through the 36h downtime |
| 14:20.58 | Saroz | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=71427485&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 14:20.59 | snurre | hardware upgrade ftw |
| 14:21.10 | sbu | well... EU realm... |
| 14:21.10 | Xuerian | wtf? |
| 14:21.11 | Saroz | we had ours |
| 14:21.15 | Saroz | our upgrade |
| 14:21.15 | Xuerian | Oh, eu. |
| 14:21.17 | Saroz | months ago |
| 14:21.18 | sbu | in US its like 10h :p |
| 14:21.26 | sbu | i guess |
| 14:21.30 | Xuerian | wait, it's tuesday? |
| 14:21.32 | Angeris_ | saroz they said,every1 will get 2 hw upgrade |
| 14:21.49 | snurre | the first upgrade was per-realm, this is per-cluster |
| 14:21.54 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 14:21.56 | Saroz | oh |
| 14:22.07 | abbat_w | oh yeah. mine did 2 maintenance before |
| 14:22.14 | Angeris_ | they just didnt do it at once cause,realms down for 72h means too much whine |
| 14:22.24 | abbat_w | 36 hour for our BG group |
| 14:22.32 | snurre | on the oldest realm, the average item action (trading, selling etc) pre-upgrade was around 2 seconds. after upgrade it's less than 0.2sec |
| 14:22.38 | Xuerian | 72h? Mine was down 72h, lol. |
| 14:23.26 | usz | AKX, Gratuity wont do for what i need, I wanted some lib which gives you for example item stat table from specified tooltip |
| 14:23.56 | Xuerian | Doesn't bonusscanner do that? Or does that only scan players? |
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| 14:24.16 | AKX | BonusScanner does that, I think |
| 14:24.16 | usz | it scans only, but no problem, wanted to write lib like that anyway |
| 14:24.35 | Xuerian | Well, you write that and I'll definately use it :P |
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| 14:25.35 | usz | i need it for my TooltipExchange lib, to store items in search efficient way, so you could easy and fast look for items with lets say 1+ % to hit |
| 14:25.55 | usz | too bad stats change in TBC, but as its postponded i can write lib anyway ^^ |
| 14:26.07 | Amadeo | Was it officially delayed? |
| 14:26.11 | usz | yea |
| 14:26.14 | Amadeo | wow |
| 14:26.15 | usz | there are blue posts on it |
| 14:26.19 | Amadeo | show me |
| 14:26.19 | usz | Jan 2007 now |
| 14:26.21 | Amadeo | lame |
| 14:26.25 | usz | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=71337407&sid=1 |
| 14:26.34 | Amadeo | that just means another delay in January |
| 14:26.53 | Xuerian | Warcraft: Vista |
| 14:26.58 | usz | ^^ |
| 14:27.00 | Amadeo | actually, it's hard to say that it's a delay |
| 14:27.07 | Amadeo | because there was never an official release date |
| 14:27.16 | usz | true aswell |
| 14:27.39 | abbat_w | thats nice |
| 14:27.54 | Amadeo | Though I think it's a bit silly |
| 14:28.02 | abbat_w | mod authors turn face to current wow and stop coding future tbc addons ;) |
| 14:28.03 | Amadeo | December is THE month to release |
| 14:28.24 | Galencia | they can release when they want |
| 14:28.25 | snurre | I'm quite sure vivendi knows their stuff, so they probably have a really good reason to delay it |
| 14:28.33 | Galencia | they have 1000s of people who will buy it whenever it will come out :) |
| 14:28.44 | Amadeo | Yeah, but that's not the only reason |
| 14:28.50 | Miles|zzz | make that millions :P |
| 14:29.17 | Amadeo | There are parents out there who probably dislike their kids being on the computer all the time, so they would be less inclined to buy them a game after Christmas than to get them a nice present of something they want on Christmas! |
| 14:29.43 | Mi|es | tbh wow is 16/18+ |
| 14:29.52 | snurre | it was very likely scheduled for mid-december, to be available for xmas.. really don't know why they figured 3-4 weeks would make such a big difference for the game, but i doubt it's been decided without a proper evaluation |
| 14:30.17 | abbat_w | 3-4 weeks? |
| 14:30.22 | abbat_w | i think 3-4 months |
| 14:30.31 | snurre | mid december -> early/mid january |
| 14:31.12 | abbat_w | i think not january |
| 14:31.16 | usz | ok, any idea why when i do SVN checkout i get all externals, while when i use WinAceUpdater i miss one? |
| 14:31.20 | abbat_w | but no one know date ;) |
| 14:31.34 | Amadeo | I would say that it will absolutely be delayed from January |
| 14:31.37 | snurre | sure, at launch it was probably scheduled for this summer, and a year ago probably about now |
| 14:32.04 | snurre | but since theyve finally given an estimate, i really doubt it'll be postponed |
| 14:32.14 | snurre | then they couldve just waited with announcing it |
| 14:32.16 | Xuerian | usz: A: Svn hadn't finished zipping it. B: A mirror flunked out mid zip and svn couldn't grab the final lib, would be my guesses |
| 14:32.26 | DrDre | Why are rogues still bitching about Surprise attacks? |
| 14:32.29 | DrDre | Im happy with it now |
| 14:32.32 | DrDre | and im getting it |
| 14:32.55 | usz | Xuerian, so if i make dummy commit for addon, should it be fixed? |
| 14:33.15 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r15100 10oSkin/ (AddonFrames.lua core.lua options.lua): oSkin: Added configurable delays, using Metrognome, to the Frame Skinning process |
| 14:33.17 | Xuerian | usz: Quite possibly could, if you're getting all the proper ones via update/checkout |
| 14:33.34 | usz | yea, checkout works good, i got all externals |
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| 14:35.00 | Xuerian | maia: <bzzt> |
| 14:35.06 | CIA-17 | 03usz * r15101 10PrivateChat/PrivateChat.toc: |
| 14:35.06 | CIA-17 | PrivateChat |
| 14:35.06 | CIA-17 | - dummy update in hope of fixing externals in winaceupdater |
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| 14:36.01 | pb_ee1 | Hi :) |
| 14:37.08 | maia | Xuerian: ? |
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| 14:37.22 | usz | Xuerian, works now ^^ |
| 14:38.20 | Xuerian | To answer your question last night :P: Xloot itself is at heart a skinned lootframe. It's got quite a bit more information and is not just a, say, 'oskin' of it :P. Monitor is something entirely new, and master is a rehash of the ml dropdown |
| 14:38.26 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r15102 10oSkin/AddonFrames.lua: oSkin: Must remember to turn off Debugging before posting changes :( |
| 14:38.39 | Amadeo | January release date will give me time to level up my Shaman |
| 14:39.06 | Amadeo | I'd like him to be 60 before it's out |
| 14:40.24 | bOR_ | hello all, is there an easy way to check whether a given name is part of your faction? |
| 14:41.00 | bOR_ | 'who <name>' works, I think, now looking if there's a way to who in the api |
| 14:41.21 | Xuerian | maia: And yea. I do read six hours of chat when I wake up.... lol |
| 14:42.04 | CIA-17 | 03andalia 07andalia * r15103 10Teknicolor_tab/ (Teknicolor_tab.toc libs/): Teknicolor_tab (andalia): Removed AceLibrary embed |
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| 14:42.23 | pb_ee1 | @ bOR_: UnitIsFriend(<unit>) I think |
| 14:43.31 | AKX | What's the HTML entity for ' ? |
| 14:43.44 | pb_ee1 | Hum... dunno if it works with a player's name though :/ |
| 14:43.47 | usz | " ? |
| 14:43.54 | AKX | Thanks, usz |
| 14:43.59 | usz | bOR_, UnitIsFriend("unit", "player") if unit is in range, but if unit is not, you only got /who command left |
| 14:44.35 | pb_ee1 | @ AKX: ' |
| 14:44.53 | CIA-17 | 03jncl * r15104 10oSkin/ (libs/ oSkin.toc): oSkin: Added Metrognome to TOC and externals |
| 14:44.55 | AKX | pb_ee1, thanks, that saves one byte ;) |
| 14:44.57 | bOR_ | 'k, thanks. rewriting the paranoia mod to ace2, but one that's outputting to the chatlog. trying to save window space :) |
| 14:45.07 | pb_ee1 | " is for " ;) |
| 14:45.19 | usz | pb_ee1, ye ye, my bad |
| 14:45.27 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 14:46.00 | AKX | is Xloot safe for raid ML usage? |
| 14:46.21 | snurre | yea |
| 14:46.23 | AKX | Doesn't die horribly after Raggy kills etc |
| 14:46.23 | Xuerian | XLoot and XLoot Monitor are, master should be, but Azurewrath hasn't tested it yet afaik :P |
| 14:46.37 | AKX | Does Xloot work without Xloot Master? |
| 14:46.42 | AKX | And does it still allow ML? |
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| 14:46.59 | Xuerian | Yes, XLoot obeys all the functions the real lootframe does |
| 14:47.09 | AKX | OK, and what's a known safe release? :) |
| 14:47.10 | snurre | ive ML'd with xloot + ClassMasterLoot |
| 14:47.13 | AKX | 14936? |
| 14:47.17 | usz | AKX, posted that link in DreadChat thread |
| 14:47.20 | Xuerian | And yes, Monitor and Master are simply modules |
| 14:47.34 | Xuerian | The latest should be fine, ak |
| 14:47.45 | pb_ee1 | Got a question: I'm trying to use SVN in order to checkout my mods efficiently from WoWAce (I've read the SVN rules), but I couldn't find something that actually works on Windows :/ Does anybody know a cool software for SVN? |
| 14:47.52 | AKX | TortoiseSVN, pb_ee1 |
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| 14:48.06 | AKX | That's the bestest |
| 14:48.10 | sylvanaar | i use that |
| 14:48.19 | snurre | WinAceUpdater uber alles |
| 14:48.20 | usz | http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ |
| 14:48.27 | evl | ffs |
| 14:48.31 | evl | AceHook brekage ftl |
| 14:48.37 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 14:48.49 | bOR_ | @usz you can't use that function in this way, right? UnitIsFriend("Usz","player")? have to target Usz in some way? |
| 14:48.53 | snurre | getting the latest ace2 folder solved the acehook shit for me |
| 14:48.57 | pb_ee1 | I've used it, but it seems that Kaspersky blocks the downloads/uploads. It just freezes everything. And when I disable Kaspersky, everything's fine. Don't want to enable/disable Kaspersky each time I use Tortoise ;p |
| 14:49.01 | usz | bOR_, you cant ^^ |
| 14:49.12 | usz | API uses local naming scheme |
| 14:49.13 | Xuerian | evl: Disembed. Saves loading times and lib out of date problems. lol |
| 14:49.23 | Wobin | pb_ee1: svn commandline =P |
| 14:49.26 | evl | Where do I get it |
| 14:49.39 | pb_ee1 | Wobin: I suppose that's what I'm going to do ;p |
| 14:49.44 | Amadeo | the US General Forums are hilarious, everyone's crying about January |
| 14:49.57 | pb_ee1 | Hope I'll get my SVN access rapidely in order to upload my mod ;) |
| 14:49.58 | Wobin | pb_ee1: It's fast, and easy to use |
| 14:50.08 | Xuerian | evil: Download !!StandaloneLibraries from /files manually, unzip all the folders in it into your addon directory, then update all addons with WAU, without externals |
| 14:50.08 | Wobin | albeit less easy than tortoise |
| 14:50.21 | pb_ee1 | That's not a problem |
| 14:50.35 | evl | Xuerian: very well, will try that |
| 14:50.49 | Xuerian | evl: Just zip your addon folder before you do it incase something goes sour, which it shouldn't :P |
| 14:50.59 | sylvanaar | Was there ever really a release date set before this press release? |
| 14:51.02 | evl | I always backupå :) |
| 14:51.09 | evl | Blizzard never gives dates |
| 14:51.09 | snurre | sylvanaar: never |
| 14:51.19 | Amadeo | sylvanaar: None |
| 14:51.27 | Amadeo | However, in the post, they mentioned delay |
| 14:51.37 | Amadeo | which is strange |
| 14:51.43 | snurre | cause it was originally scheduled at another time |
| 14:51.55 | Xuerian | Just because they never announced a date didn't mean they weren't planning on it |
| 14:52.04 | Xuerian | So to them it would be a delay (And to most of us it is) |
| 14:52.12 | Amadeo | "By adding a few extra weeks to the development cycle beyond its original target date, Blizzard will be able to extend the closed beta test and further refine the new content that will ship with the game." |
| 14:52.16 | Amadeo | see? kinda strange |
| 14:52.16 | pb_ee1 | Wobin: http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html ? |
| 14:52.19 | sylvanaar | yeah - now they have given an official release timerframe though |
| 14:52.28 | Wobin | pb_ee1: aye |
| 14:52.29 | evl | Xuerian: Should I delete all the libs\* folders that I already have or will WAU fix that |
| 14:52.33 | pb_ee1 | Thanks ;) |
| 14:52.34 | weab | there's nothing strange about that |
| 14:52.39 | Wobin | evl: delete them |
| 14:52.39 | Amadeo | snurre: Yeah, but only internally |
| 14:52.40 | Xuerian | WAU handles it |
| 14:52.43 | snurre | nothing strange about that.. just because it's not announced, doesn't mean a target date didnt exist |
| 14:52.43 | evl | Xuerian: ok |
| 14:52.45 | Wobin | oh =) |
| 14:52.51 | Wobin | WAU == <3 |
| 14:52.52 | Xuerian | Or should handle it.... |
| 14:52.55 | Xuerian | :P |
| 14:52.59 | Amadeo | They announced it immproperly from a PR standpoint |
| 14:53.02 | Amadeo | -m |
| 14:53.13 | Xuerian | Check your warmup numbers afterwords, xloot goes from 900k to 200k :P |
| 14:53.13 | snurre | i guess it's an explanation for why it was delayed into 07, instead of for xmas |
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| 14:53.14 | Amadeo | They shouldn't have mentioned delay, just as an official release date |
| 14:53.25 | Amadeo | people wouldn't have complained as much |
| 14:53.28 | Wobin | meh |
| 14:53.34 | Wobin | like that'd've stopped them |
| 14:53.39 | Amadeo | well, not everyone...but some :) |
| 14:53.40 | snurre | pfft |
| 14:53.43 | snurre | wouldnt have changed a bit |
| 14:53.53 | snurre | 500k whiners or 550k whiners, big diff |
| 14:53.55 | evl | Xuerian: see, broken already |
| 14:53.56 | weab | even without a release date people have a feel for when it's coming, or intended to come |
| 14:53.56 | sylvanaar | i was typing what amadeo said |
| 14:54.03 | Xuerian | evl: lol, what's broken? |
| 14:54.12 | evl | Xuerian: oCB needs Surface... which is not in Standalone :P |
| 14:54.23 | Xuerian | Then open wau and update ocb with externals |
| 14:54.25 | Amadeo | Still, I don't see how anyone can complain when there was no official release date besides this one |
| 14:54.30 | AKX | Ace replacement for MobileFrames? |
| 14:54.31 | Wobin | well... STandalone isn't for the faint of svn =) |
| 14:54.33 | Amadeo | This *is* the official release date |
| 14:54.36 | snurre | disembedding only breaks things for me.. fuck that |
| 14:54.41 | Xuerian | Till someone puts the surface folder in !!SAL |
| 14:54.49 | Xuerian | snurre: It's a mixed experience; it works great for me |
| 14:54.57 | Wobin | Amadeo: Of course they can complain |
| 14:55.04 | Wobin | That's what they pay their subscription fee for |
| 14:55.13 | snurre | it works until someone updates a library and the !!!libs folder doesnt have the newest stuff |
| 14:55.16 | Wobin | (or that's what their parents pay the subscription fee for) |
| 14:55.18 | snurre | like with acehook-2.1 |
| 14:55.18 | haste | Xuerian: you can use it standalone tho', but why? |
| 14:55.19 | snurre | and surface |
| 14:55.21 | snurre | == broken |
| 14:55.24 | weab | people don't need a logical reason to complain |
| 14:55.30 | AKX | Reasking: What's the Ace replacement addon for MobileFrames? |
| 14:55.36 | sergio | If you were in the Alpha and now the Closed Beta for BC there's no way you didn't see this Jan. date coming |
| 14:55.41 | Wobin | Sorry, AKX, no idea |
| 14:55.45 | haste | snurre: wah? |
| 14:55.45 | snurre | AKX: visor? |
| 14:55.49 | Xuerian | haste: Because I use a computer so old it's stupid, and loading embedded takes a good big longer than disembedded :) |
| 14:55.51 | Amadeo | Though I still hold firm that it will be delayed from January :) |
| 14:55.52 | Wobin | sergio: Even if you weren't =P |
| 14:55.55 | AKX | For just purely draggable frames? |
| 14:55.58 | Amadeo | You heard it here first! |
| 14:56.02 | haste | snurre: how is it broken? |
| 14:56.11 | snurre | read what i wrote ;) |
| 14:56.17 | Wobin | visor isn't easily 'draggable' |
| 14:56.19 | haste | So much text :( |
| 14:56.22 | evl | Xuerian: so I understand the readme, I copy the lib folders into the actual AddOns folder? |
| 14:56.27 | AKX | Meh. Then I'll just keep MobileFrames :) |
| 14:56.27 | snurre | it's not broken, but disembedding breaks when libs are added or updated |
| 14:56.44 | haste | ah |
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| 14:56.47 | Wobin | but I can't live without it =P) |
| 14:56.52 | sylvanaar | has blizzard ever not released when they announced an official date? in 10+ years? |
| 14:56.56 | haste | You started to scare me there |
| 14:56.57 | Wobin | evl: yes |
| 14:56.59 | snurre | it shouldn't, but happens too often.. i'd rather just stick with fully embedding |
| 14:57.02 | Xuerian | evl: they're simply empty folders to trick WAU into thinking you have all the true libraries installed, so when you update all, it grabs the libraries, which are LOD and load whenever there's a optdep on them |
| 14:57.20 | Wobin | Tekkub is a tricksy hobbit |
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| 14:57.42 | Xuerian | lol Wobin |
| 14:58.12 | Xuerian | apparently PPovrost is going to include it in a more user-friendly way next wau or something |
| 14:58.27 | evl | WTB alphabetical sorting too :P |
| 14:58.29 | Wobin | we have the Ace-library tag in the toc now, don't we |
| 14:58.46 | Xuerian | Yes Wobin. And evl, uncheck then recheck Show Groups |
| 14:58.52 | Xuerian | It'll sort group->Alpha |
| 14:58.52 | Wobin | evl: it does for me... kinda... after an update |
| 14:59.05 | evl | Ah, nice |
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| 15:01.52 | Xuerian | And hah, AKX, that's where the name is familiar from. Love chatr :) |
| 15:02.09 | AKX | Thanks Xuerian, really appreciate it :) |
| 15:02.25 | AKX | Well, I just installed Xloot now, let's see whether I hate you :) |
| 15:02.32 | Xuerian | :P |
| 15:02.46 | Wobin | you can feel the love =P |
| 15:02.47 | sergio | xloot, the x is for xtremeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 15:02.48 | usz | <-- installed Xloot yesterday, still dont hate him |
| 15:02.57 | Xuerian | <3 |
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| 15:03.01 | Wobin | Extreeeemeurean? |
| 15:03.39 | AKX | Xuerian - if Xloot breaks when we are looting Ony/Raggy, I'll just kinda.. kill you, m'kay? |
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| 15:03.58 | Saroz | they drop crap anyways |
| 15:03.58 | sergio | it will, it'll eat up your eye of sulfuras |
| 15:04.00 | Xuerian | Haha, sure ak :P |
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| 15:04.55 | AKX | "Stayed alive for 40 seconds. Record: 56." |
| 15:05.00 | AKX | Irresponsible mage in BG ;) |
| 15:05.15 | sergio | i have to say xloot's single most useful feature isn't the eyecandy window. it's linking shit to raid/guild with 1click before people even get to ask |
| 15:05.17 | Xuerian | lol |
| 15:05.19 | weab | s/irresponsible/shitty/ |
| 15:05.32 | AKX | weab, s//stfu/ |
| 15:06.01 | Xuerian | Heheh, sergio, I still gotta add fully auto-link and optional mobname/money, don't I. :P |
| 15:06.05 | Xuerian | And Wobin, you're on AD? cool XD |
| 15:06.14 | Wobin | you too? X? |
| 15:06.17 | Wobin | =) |
| 15:06.22 | Xuerian | Cairnriil, Arm of Aman Thul |
| 15:06.37 | Wobin | bah, I'd log in to add you to friends |
| 15:06.40 | Wobin | if I could =P |
| 15:06.43 | Xuerian | lol |
| 15:06.45 | Xuerian | same :P |
| 15:06.49 | Saroz | awww |
| 15:06.52 | Saroz | how cute |
| 15:06.54 | Wobin | It's like FATE |
| 15:06.58 | Xuerian | XD |
| 15:07.29 | Wobin | (hurrah, someone I can bug online to test stuff) |
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| 15:08.12 | Xuerian | lol. |
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| 15:08.31 | bOR_ | another question. I thought there was a way to 'who' for a name and require the match to be exact.. can't find it anymore though. anyone knows it off the top of their heads? |
| 15:08.34 | Xuerian | You can join me in my camping out of westfall to test shiny new things XD |
| 15:08.47 | Funkeh` | hey again :) |
| 15:08.54 | sergio | though, last night when I died to patchwerk at 1% i was pissed not because I died but because I couldn't use my fancy link all feature |
| 15:09.08 | Wobin | bOR_: I seem to recall a precise name function |
| 15:09.09 | sergio | sucks being the tank |
| 15:09.12 | Wobin | but that may be in the 2.0 |
| 15:09.30 | Xuerian | sergio: Doh >.< |
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| 15:09.51 | bOR_ | @Wobin I thought it was in already.. I'll search some more. wowwiki being downish doesn't help though |
| 15:10.09 | weab | wowwiki needs some new servers |
| 15:10.15 | weab | it's always slow as balls or down |
| 15:10.19 | Xuerian | google cache ftw |
| 15:10.36 | Wobin | probably due to all the americans hammering the tactics pages |
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| 15:10.43 | Wobin | since it's maint day =P |
| 15:10.44 | snurre | us'ians! |
| 15:11.28 | haste | nice, I found a blog |
| 15:11.42 | snurre | grats |
| 15:11.44 | haste | and under friends, it says: Send me a picture, some text and 200NOK, and I'll fix it |
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| 15:13.55 | Wobin | bOR_: /who n-"womble" |
| 15:14.03 | snurre | meh, annoying that all pirate releases are using split archives |
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| 15:15.21 | Wobin | night all =P |
| 15:15.25 | Industrial | nn wob |
| 15:15.33 | bOR_ | Wobin: tried, but that doesn't distinguish between people whose name is also part of the name of another. You might be offline, but Wobindoble would still turn up in who |
| 15:15.37 | bOR_ | thanks for the help though :) |
| 15:15.42 | evl | Xuerian|AFK: none of my settings are saved etc. etc. |
| 15:15.50 | Industrial | *poke poke* |
| 15:15.52 | Wobin | bOR_: that's for a precise name though |
| 15:15.58 | Wobin | if you just do /who womble |
| 15:16.05 | Wobin | that will find any with womble in the string |
| 15:16.10 | bOR_ | I did the n-" bit.. I'll try again |
| 15:16.12 | Wobin | but -n "womble" is for a precise match |
| 15:16.17 | Wobin | (it should be at least) |
| 15:16.53 | pb_ee1 | Grumpf... Kaspersky is even blocking the command line SVN xD |
| 15:17.28 | bOR_ | n-"moon" gives two people, one "moon", and one "somethingmoon" |
| 15:17.28 | Wobin | oh |
| 15:17.30 | sergio | can't you make exceptions with that program/antivirus? |
| 15:17.38 | Wobin | it's TargetByName that uses ExactMatch |
| 15:17.49 | Wobin | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TargetByName |
| 15:18.10 | pb_ee1 | I'll try to do this |
| 15:18.30 | doktoreas | hi mates! |
| 15:18.41 | Wobin | and FollowByName |
| 15:18.44 | Wobin | but not who |
| 15:19.41 | Wobin | pb_ee1: CAn't you set the svn as allowed through the firewall? |
| 15:19.54 | Wobin | oh |
| 15:19.58 | Wobin | sergio already said that =P |
| 15:20.12 | pb_ee1 | It doesn't seem to come from here. Each time I disable Kaspersky SVN works |
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| 15:23.42 | omega__ | anyone know if the author of FuBar_GroupFu has plans for updating to AceLocale-2.2? |
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| 15:24.52 | Mikma | waddup |
| 15:25.05 | sergio | chillin |
| 15:25.22 | andg | Give ckk please |
| 15:25.49 | Industrial | andg = andg + ckk |
| 15:25.58 | andg | wtf |
| 15:26.13 | Industrial | oh wait |
| 15:26.20 | Industrial | andg.ckk = ckk |
| 15:26.22 | Industrial | xD |
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| 15:26.56 | Industrial | you cant have ckk but you can refer :P |
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| 15:28.25 | pb_ee1 | ok... finally I made it |
| 15:28.26 | Funkeh` | um |
| 15:28.36 | Funkeh` | whats the difference between AutoBar and Autobar |
| 15:28.49 | eternally777 | A misspell |
| 15:29.03 | eternally777 | More specificly, the "b" vs "B" |
| 15:29.04 | Funkeh` | so which should you choose |
| 15:29.17 | eternally777 | Which has the highest revision? Chances are they're the same addon |
| 15:29.32 | Funkeh` | can you delete the one then? |
| 15:29.39 | eternally777 | Yeah. |
| 15:29.51 | Funkeh` | Auto'B'ar is highest |
| 15:29.54 | eternally777 | If they are the same. |
| 15:30.08 | eternally777 | Wait |
| 15:30.13 | eternally777 | There is no "Autobar" |
| 15:30.14 | Funkeh` | Autobar is 13k~ |
| 15:30.29 | Funkeh` | on the zip files site :P |
| 15:30.32 | eternally777 | oo |
| 15:30.37 | eternally777 | Then AutoBar is the newest |
| 15:30.40 | Funkeh` | didnt check svn |
| 15:30.54 | eternally777 | Yeah "Autobar" is not on the svn :P |
| 15:31.15 | Funkeh` | so how is it still on the zip site >.< |
| 15:31.56 | andg | Industrial, you're fucking me up :D |
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| 15:32.56 | Industrial | andg: just blurbing random crap |
| 15:33.02 | Industrial | but, funny ;P |
| 15:33.54 | andg | but uhm, local value ckk is nil |
| 15:34.01 | andg | so andg.ckk is nil too |
| 15:34.21 | andg | so can someone please give ckk real value ie. bring him here?:) |
| 15:34.37 | andg | and don't fake it with a metatable please |
| 15:34.54 | eternally777 | Programmers are wierd, imo. |
| 15:35.36 | Industrial | tee hee |
| 15:35.36 | andg | yes, we have bad humor |
| 15:35.41 | Industrial | where ck lives, hes prolly asleep now.. |
| 15:35.46 | AKX | programmers.humor="bad" |
| 15:36.03 | andg | but I guess it's just in relation to what you do daily |
| 15:36.21 | andg | I don't know if gangsters joking about all the hoes they're bangin is much better humor |
| 15:36.34 | weab | at least they're banging hoes though |
| 15:36.40 | weab | gotta give them that much |
| 15:36.41 | eternally777 | haha |
| 15:36.44 | andg | yeah |
| 15:37.01 | weab | we bang calculators. |
| 15:37.09 | andg | note to self: be a hoebangin luagangster |
| 15:37.13 | AKX | ... i thought they were night elves? ;_; |
| 15:37.26 | Industrial | lol |
| 15:37.56 | Industrial | you know what would be disturbing? |
| 15:38.02 | AKX | yes, but do tell |
| 15:38.19 | Industrial | one of those videos of some total loser etting caught on tape fapping to his NE char |
| 15:38.28 | Industrial | but, the char being female dwarf |
| 15:38.30 | Industrial | :| |
| 15:38.35 | Industrial | more disturbing, even ;D |
| 15:38.35 | AKX | well, yes. |
| 15:38.46 | weab | you're quite creative |
| 15:38.52 | Industrial | id piss my pants :P |
| 15:39.03 | weab | i thought you were going to say an undead male with no jaw |
| 15:39.19 | Industrial | ew |
| 15:39.43 | eternally777 | Are the directory paths in TOC files case-sensitive? |
| 15:40.10 | andg | Industrial, what about male dwarf |
| 15:40.12 | andg | og male drenei |
| 15:40.32 | andg | anyway did you see that basshunter video |
| 15:40.36 | weab | female dwarves look worse than male dwarves |
| 15:40.36 | Industrial | wich one |
| 15:40.51 | Industrial | female dward = ugliest in the game |
| 15:40.52 | andg | sittar her i ventan og spilla litan dota |
| 15:40.53 | Industrial | imho |
| 15:41.01 | AKX | andg, that's old. |
| 15:41.05 | andg | yes, but the vid :P |
| 15:41.10 | Industrial | andg: wtf is dota? :> |
| 15:41.12 | AKX | andg, that's old too |
| 15:41.16 | andg | I know |
| 15:41.17 | snurre | defenders of the ancients |
| 15:41.18 | AKX | DotA = Defense of the Ancients, WC3 mod |
| 15:41.22 | AKX | "mod". |
| 15:41.24 | andg | but it's just relevant in relation to this discussion |
| 15:41.25 | Industrial | oh k |
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| 15:41.41 | AKX | And it's "Vi sitter här i Venten och spelar lite DotA", btw ;) |
| 15:41.57 | andg | He's total a total hoebanging gamergangster |
| 15:42.04 | andg | that made sense... not |
| 15:42.06 | andg | bleh |
| 15:42.14 | andg | I'm just going to take another call now and shut up |
| 15:42.39 | Amadeo | gamergangster? |
| 15:42.54 | Amadeo | like, shut yo mouth or I'll pop an Iron Grenade in yo ass! |
| 15:43.01 | snurre | reminds me of weird al - white and nerdy |
| 15:43.27 | eternally777 | Can anyone confirm that the three last library entries in the AutoBar TOC file point to non-existant directories? Post-revision 15068 versions of AutoBar, specifically. |
| 15:43.59 | pb_ee1 | Ok, now that I checkout with TortoiseSVN, how do I know which externals libs should I install in the libs directory for each addon? |
| 15:44.47 | Amadeo | I have a question! |
| 15:45.22 | Amadeo | So far, Paladins and Shamans have the same colors for raid/chat/unit frame etc. addons...what colors will they be since they'll be together now!? |
| 15:46.21 | snurre | that was discussed a while ago.. only thing i can remember was that dark blue was suggested |
| 15:46.46 | Amadeo | Paladins should get pink ;) |
| 15:47.18 | pb_ee1 | Does anyone know how to get the externals list with TortoiseSVN? ;) |
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| 15:47.50 | usz | externals should be set as properties on addon folder |
| 15:48.57 | cncfanatics | talking about externals; what url are they at again ? need to update em but forgot |
| 15:49.08 | eternally777 | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ |
| 15:49.13 | pb_ee1 | usz: What do you mean? |
| 15:49.30 | andg | Amadeo, as far as I've seen from some screenshots, shamans are now teal |
| 15:49.59 | andg | cncfanatics, I think it is trunk/ace2 |
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| 15:50.07 | andg | cncfanatics, but that's only for the ace libs |
| 15:50.12 | pb_ee1 | I'm really noob with this tool, what I would like to do is to checkout once all the addons I want (without externals), and then get the externals list to install them |
| 15:50.38 | andg | I think WinAceUpdater does that |
| 15:51.06 | pb_ee1 | Then I should use SVN only for creating/updating addons? |
| 15:51.17 | pb_ee1 | Or is there a way to do it with TortoiseSVN |
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| 15:52.54 | eternally777 | pb_ee1: There is a way to do that with TSVN, but it's very, very slow. |
| 15:53.06 | cncfanatics | can externals point to files ? or only folders ? |
| 15:53.16 | cncfanatics | it would be so easy having them point to files instead of folders |
| 15:53.16 | eternally777 | pb_ee1: I'd recommend you just download the zips with WinACE updater. Not to mention it saves the servers bandwidth |
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| 15:53.38 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: Let me know. I always thought it was folders only. |
| 15:53.47 | pb_ee1 | eternally777: Ok, and I shall use SVN only for updating my mods? |
| 15:53.50 | cncfanatics | well, having version numbers in externals is anoying |
| 15:54.03 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r15109 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs : options - Updated localization koKR |
| 15:54.08 | cncfanatics | I'd rather have a folder without versionnumber always containing the last one |
| 15:54.19 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: o.O |
| 15:54.26 | eternally777 | pb_ee1: yeah. |
| 15:54.28 | usz | well then your addon can break without you knowing it |
| 15:54.44 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: You lost me :\ Sorry |
| 15:55.04 | cncfanatics | well, currently, externals point to as example AceLocale-2.1 |
| 15:55.10 | pb_ee1 | eternally777: Thanks for the info ;) Last question for now: how do I remove the tiny green check of TortoiseSVN off my folders? |
| 15:55.14 | cncfanatics | If u want to update, u got to change ur externals and make it to AceLocale-2.2 |
| 15:55.24 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: right. |
| 15:55.28 | cncfanatics | it would be way easyer if there was an AceLocale folder always pointing to the latest version |
| 15:56.01 | usz | it would be all wrong then... |
| 15:56.07 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: I see what you mean |
| 15:56.14 | usz | as between versions API can change or it even usually does |
| 15:57.27 | eternally777 | pb_ee1: go to "Settings" in the TSVN dropdown menu when you right click on a directory, highlight "Look and Feel" on the left side of the window that pops up. I'd imagine you'd find the appropriate setting in there. |
| 15:58.06 | pb_ee1 | eternally777: Thanks again ;-) |
| 15:58.23 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: No, there's nothing like that. The only time that the actually directory for the external should change is if the major version of the external changes |
| 15:58.26 | eternally777 | pb_ee1: np |
| 15:58.48 | doktoreas | so no way to run the updater from linux :( |
| 15:59.08 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: And if that happens, there may be some API changes, and if you use a new major version without making sure your mod is compatible with it, your users could run into a bunch of issues. |
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| 16:01.55 | cncfanatics | doktoreas, wine might work |
| 16:02.16 | doktoreas | i tried but with it doesn't work |
| 16:02.58 | cncfanatics | did u install the .NET framework ? |
| 16:03.06 | CIA-17 | 03cncfanatics * r15110 10FlexBar2/ (FlexBar2.toc FlexBar2_Controller.lua Libs/ bindings.xml): FlexBar2: Updated externals, Updated TOC, removed obsolete bindings.xml file |
| 16:04.23 | Eugney | Alot of people have nice looking ace2 uis lol i think i might start useing it |
| 16:04.48 | usz | its not about look, its about low memory usage and speed ^^ |
| 16:04.56 | omega__ | doktoreas: I have a wowace updater written in perl that I run on linux and mac os x |
| 16:04.57 | cncfanatics | Ace2 has nothing to do with the fact it looks good most of the time :p just means they keep themselves busy making it look good |
| 16:05.07 | omega__ | doktoreas: but no gui yet, just commandline |
| 16:05.09 | Eugney | True i hear that it has that but it does infact look good |
| 16:05.21 | doktoreas | omega__, can send it to me? |
| 16:06.22 | Xuerian|AFK | evl: In Xloot or what? :P |
| 16:07.44 | cncfanatics | hmmm; using the cp command, how can I copy everything in a folder, except a single file ? |
| 16:07.49 | cncfanatics | (linux stuff :p) |
| 16:08.24 | doktoreas | i'll do cp -r folder && rm thatfile :) |
| 16:08.32 | cncfanatics | can't |
| 16:08.38 | cncfanatics | it exists in the destination folder too |
| 16:08.43 | cncfanatics | and can't be overwritten |
| 16:09.10 | Eugney | Okay Sooo lol since there is no SS with the ACE GUI stuff what does it look like O.o |
| 16:09.15 | doktoreas | neither with force option? |
| 16:09.27 | Mi|es | Q: Where do I report an Ace2 [TBC] bug? |
| 16:09.52 | cncfanatics | some other files DO have to be overwritten |
| 16:09.52 | Xuerian | Either trac or here whenever ckknight is online |
| 16:10.34 | doktoreas | cncfanatics, use rsync |
| 16:10.46 | cncfanatics | never used it before -.- |
| 16:10.47 | doktoreas | rsync and the exclude option |
| 16:10.57 | cncfanatics | lemme check |
| 16:11.06 | cncfanatics | (hail apt-get) |
| 16:11.54 | cncfanatics | i'm gonna fix some school stuff, back soon |
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| 16:12.15 | doktoreas | omega__, can send me your perl file? |
| 16:12.21 | haste | IT BURNS! |
| 16:12.27 | Mikma | ag`: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5468-ag_UnitFrames.html |
| 16:13.01 | haste | Mikma: I believe he knows, especially since Mi|es is in this channel |
| 16:13.19 | Mikma | haste: oh noes! |
| 16:14.25 | evl | Xuerian: nah., going with StandaloneLibraries caused all settings to be ignored for all mods :P |
| 16:15.32 | Xuerian | evl: Heh, well, won't argue that. Worked for me, but then again I had to take a 2h mace to Prat to get it to remember settings, too. Sorry my suggestion didn't work =( |
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| 16:17.03 | Eugney | I want server up so i can play with ace lol |
| 16:17.40 | sergio | is that what you call it |
| 16:17.49 | sergio | dunno why you need a server |
| 16:17.57 | Worf | hmm... something is borked... just updated my ace addons (basically bigwigs, ora2 and a couple of others) and now i get some errors on login... AceHook 2.1 line 537: index a nil value... do i have some incompatibility or is something broken? |
| 16:18.17 | Eugney | I mean make the lay out look goo |
| 16:18.24 | Xuerian | worf: Fix seems to be installing the Ace2 standalone, right now |
| 16:18.35 | Worf | Xuerian: k, will do |
| 16:19.00 | andg | I think there is a problem if you have AceHook2.1 installed along with AceHook2.0 |
| 16:19.08 | sergio | no |
| 16:19.17 | sergio | it's just an addon that has an old acehook 2.1 |
| 16:19.21 | sergio | it's a bug |
| 16:20.15 | sergio | I use 2.0 and 2.1 as of last night fine |
| 16:21.04 | andg | ok |
| 16:21.11 | Xuerian | Has nothing to do with having both, it's the flurry of fixes to 2.1 that happened and various mods catching buggy versions |
| 16:21.15 | andg | so I guess people just have to update all their addons from the SVN |
| 16:21.34 | andg | or newest from wowace.com/files |
| 16:21.36 | Mikma | Sairen: XAD support |
| 16:22.19 | Eugney | Lol i need to read first :P |
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| 16:23.52 | pb_ee1 | I am not stressed, I'm asking this just for info: does anyone have an ETA on obtaining an SVN account in order to use WoWAce's SVN? ;) |
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| 16:24.05 | Mikma | pb_ee1: 1min - 2 weeks |
| 16:24.08 | Xuerian | pb_ee1: Did you mail the address on the rules page? |
| 16:24.18 | cncfanatics | took me 1 day |
| 16:24.21 | pb_ee1 | Sure, and I also signed the page ;) |
| 16:24.31 | Mikma | took me 3 days |
| 16:24.41 | Mikma | and for some it has taken 5mins |
| 16:24.43 | pb_ee1 | Ok that's fine ;) |
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| 16:25.00 | Mikma | hi tekpup |
| 16:25.27 | cncfanatics | doktoreas how wld I make rsync copy the contents of a whole folder (recursivly) except for the .svn folder ? |
| 16:25.29 | pb_ee1 | I was waiting for it in order to make a release, but I'll maybe do it before :p |
| 16:25.43 | Mikma | pb_ee1: give it to me and i will commit it in |
| 16:25.51 | Mikma | if it's a good addon hahah |
| 16:26.08 | pb_ee1 | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4231-1-chatlog.html <-- not released with Ace2 code atm |
| 16:26.10 | cncfanatics | doktoreas ping :) |
| 16:26.39 | Mi|es | ugh. is there a way to leave someone a msg on irc? nickserv doesn't have that option here |
| 16:26.55 | Xuerian | Nice, pb_ee1 |
| 16:27.01 | Xuerian | Mi|es: I think ~botmsg |
| 16:27.17 | Xuerian | (purl) |
| 16:28.36 | Mikma | purl: message to ckknight: fuck you, guy |
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| 16:28.49 | Mikma | <1928> [freenode] <purl> OK, mikma, I'll let ckknight know. |
| 16:28.52 | Mikma | haha |
| 16:29.13 | Xuerian | lol |
| 16:29.42 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
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| 16:30.12 | Zheele | Hey. I have a quick question about ag_Unitframes if anyone can answer. They work fine the first time but when I reload UI or relog they dissapear generating a heap of errors. If I remove the WTF files it works again, but only the first time. *cries* |
| 16:30.35 | Mikma | Zheele: ask from ag` , he's our ag_UnitFrames genius |
| 16:30.35 | haste | Mikma: wups? :p |
| 16:30.42 | Mikma | haste: yes? |
| 16:32.20 | Mikma | haste: what? tell me |
| 16:32.33 | haste | the fuck you message :p |
| 16:32.44 | Mikma | yes? what about it? :) |
| 16:33.02 | Mi|es | Zheele: version? |
| 16:33.03 | haste | "wups" :D ? |
| 16:33.11 | Mikma | ~literal emulate ckknight |
| 16:33.12 | purl | "emulate ckknight" is "(<action> quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))|<reply>f*ck you, guy|<reply>You know why? Because you touch yourself at night|<reply> your mom's <foo>|<reply> file a bug.)" |
| 16:33.34 | Ratbert_CP | ~emasculate ckknight |
| 16:34.11 | cncfanatics | anyone knows shell here ? need some help |
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| 16:34.46 | Zheele | Mi|es: At the moment I'm trying r14756, but I also tried some older ones with the same problem. |
| 16:34.50 | Mikma | cncfanatics: oh noes! :P |
| 16:35.12 | cncfanatics | ... |
| 16:35.35 | Mikma | Karma: +27/-8 |
| 16:35.36 | Mikma | wohoo! |
| 16:35.37 | andg | Zheele, try backing up and removing your WTF folder and backup and disable all other addons and see if it helps |
| 16:35.43 | andg | do that until you find the conflicting addon |
| 16:35.44 | Mikma | i have got 2x smite today |
| 16:36.35 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: what? |
| 16:36.47 | bOR_ | mm. can anyone point me to a simple mod that shows how to add a rightclick menu to something I printed in chat? |
| 16:36.53 | cncfanatics | Shell, a programming language, I need some help making a simple script |
| 16:37.05 | JoshBorke | cncfanatics: to do what? (there are lots of shells ;-]) |
| 16:37.15 | JoshBorke | bOR_: it's not easy |
| 16:37.36 | andg | bash JoshBorke ! |
| 16:37.39 | snurre | hm, weird.. why wont the ktm bars change texture o.O |
| 16:37.43 | cncfanatics | how do I get the stuff I appended after the shell's filename as an argument in the script ? |
| 16:37.52 | cncfanatics | simple question, but I never used shell so I don't know :/ |
| 16:37.56 | bOR_ | joshborke - experience? |
| 16:37.59 | JoshBorke | in bash, it's $1 i'm pretty sure |
| 16:38.09 | cncfanatics | ok |
| 16:39.16 | pastamancer | $1 through $9, use shift if you need more than that |
| 16:39.39 | cncfanatics | I just need all the stuff put after it |
| 16:39.46 | cncfanatics | I don't care if its seperated by spaces or not |
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| 16:39.57 | cncfanatics | (its suposed to be a block of text) |
| 16:40.16 | Mikma | cncfanatics: yo... |
| 16:40.19 | AKX | cncfanatics, ./myscript.sh 'this is a very very very long argument' |
| 16:40.29 | Mikma | cncfanatics: wow.reaktio.net/bt2.sh |
| 16:40.32 | Mikma | check that out and see |
| 16:41.24 | pastamancer | well, there's also $@ for all of the arguments |
| 16:41.48 | cncfanatics | i'm gonna do some tests |
| 16:41.58 | cncfanatics | it commits to ace2 svn, so bear with me if there's no message after it |
| 16:42.57 | axxo | pastebin it |
| 16:42.58 | Mikma | no we propably will not ;) |
| 16:43.11 | cncfanatics | lemme paste |
| 16:43.23 | Mikma | not in here noooo! |
| 16:43.26 | Mikma | pastebin |
| 16:43.39 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/1778 |
| 16:43.43 | cncfanatics | ofc in pastebin |
| 16:43.58 | bOR_ | @JoshBorke I'll take a peek at vipers' playerlinkmenu. |
| 16:44.10 | cncfanatics | is the script right ? :) |
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| 16:44.41 | axxo | should work if you use '' |
| 16:44.48 | axxo | otherwise use $* |
| 16:45.02 | cncfanatics | will do, i'll forget the quotes half of the time anyway |
| 16:45.16 | cncfanatics | time to try |
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| 16:47.32 | Xuerian | Woo, AD is up. |
| 16:47.46 | CIA-17 | 03cncfanatics * r15111 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2_Model.lua: FlexBar2: Fixed a bug in FlexBar2.Model:GetTempData |
| 16:47.49 | cncfanatics | works :) |
| 16:48.52 | Saroz | omg spam |
| 16:48.58 | Saroz | X already has an active hook from this source |
| 16:49.24 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 16:49.36 | FISKER_Q | I disapprove all these updates to acehook |
| 16:50.51 | Saroz | oRA2 hook spam |
| 16:52.28 | Cartas | Blehhh |
| 16:52.33 | Cartas | Bartender2 = Borked :( |
| 16:52.48 | omega__ | Cartas: I'm using it right now, whats borked? |
| 16:52.48 | snurre | hm |
| 16:52.54 | snurre | the xloot "link all" stuff doesnt work |
| 16:53.01 | Cartas | If I have it in, a lot of addons stop working. |
| 16:53.06 | steino_ | Cartas = borked |
| 16:53.06 | snurre | err, nvm |
| 16:53.10 | Xuerian | ... |
| 16:53.10 | Cartas | Bartender2, BW, oRa2, oSkin. |
| 16:53.13 | snurre | my threshold sucks |
| 16:53.14 | usz | snurre, you sure items you linking are above threshold? |
| 16:53.15 | omega__ | Cartas: upgrade teh AceHook-2.1 in Bartender2 |
| 16:53.18 | Xuerian | :P |
| 16:53.19 | omega__ | and all other addons for that matter |
| 16:53.21 | Industrial | haste: ping |
| 16:53.21 | Cartas | How? :O |
| 16:53.25 | haste | Industrial: pong |
| 16:53.30 | Cartas | As in, update everything? |
| 16:53.32 | Industrial | haste: what window manager do you use? |
| 16:53.34 | omega__ | download the latest ora2 for instance |
| 16:53.37 | Cartas | I have it. |
| 16:53.43 | omega__ | and then copy acehook from there to the Bartender2 dir |
| 16:53.43 | haste | Industrial: Metacity, as in Gnome, as in Gnome-light |
| 16:53.48 | Cartas | Ah, okaty. |
| 16:53.49 | Cartas | okay* |
| 16:54.00 | Industrial | haste: have you ever tried a tiled window manager? |
| 16:54.09 | haste | Industrial: tiled? |
| 16:54.23 | haste | Industrial: only others I've tried it fluxbox and xfce's |
| 16:54.46 | Industrial | yeah all windows are maximized and the window manager decides what is shown where etc, kinda like splits in an editor |
| 16:54.57 | haste | sounds, spifft |
| 16:55.02 | haste | s/t/y/ |
| 16:55.05 | cncfanatics | gnome ftw :) |
| 16:55.08 | Industrial | yes, it is :D |
| 16:55.17 | Industrial | http://wmii.suckless.org |
| 16:55.34 | haste | Industrial: you've pasted me that one before! |
| 16:55.44 | Industrial | its like, I dont have to use a mouse :P |
| 16:55.56 | Industrial | for _anything_ |
| 16:56.09 | Industrial | and yet it manages my windows better then when I would do so with a mouse |
| 16:56.49 | Cartas | Bartender2 is still borked! |
| 16:56.55 | Cartas | omega__, old chap! :) |
| 16:57.43 | omega__ | ? |
| 16:57.50 | Cartas | I did what you said. |
| 16:57.58 | Cartas | But it still doesn't work. |
| 16:58.02 | omega__ | k, then what is the error you get in BugSack then? |
| 16:58.40 | Cartas | Pasted :) |
| 16:58.56 | omega__ | mhm |
| 16:58.58 | Cartas | Wait |
| 16:59.00 | Cartas | There's another :o |
| 16:59.12 | omega__ | and you put AceHook-2.1 in the right place? |
| 16:59.23 | Cartas | Erm |
| 16:59.27 | omega__ | are you running the latest versions? |
| 16:59.29 | Cartas | You told me to copy AceHook-2.0? |
| 16:59.33 | Cartas | From oRA2? |
| 16:59.46 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r15112 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_RegenFu/ (. FuBar_Regen.lua FuBar_RegenLocal-enUS.lua): Fubar_RegenFu:drycoded some minor ui tweaks |
| 16:59.52 | weab | omega__: Cartas: upgrade teh AceHook-2.1 in Bartender2 |
| 17:00.00 | Mikma | i HATE triviabots! |
| 17:00.06 | Mikma | ffs the author should be shot to sun |
| 17:00.15 | omega__ | AceHook-2.1 |
| 17:00.18 | omega__ | not 2.0 |
| 17:00.24 | omega__ | I thought ora2 had 2.1 |
| 17:00.25 | Cartas | Oh... the latest oRA2 has 2.0 |
| 17:00.27 | Cartas | Sorry :) |
| 17:00.31 | Industrial | someone should write a LUA trivia bot |
| 17:00.36 | Industrial | and put it on in /1 |
| 17:00.37 | omega__ | if not, find it in svn or another acehook-2.1 addon |
| 17:00.39 | Industrial | in the barrens |
| 17:00.39 | omega__ | like bigwigs |
| 17:00.45 | Mi|es | there is one already afaik |
| 17:00.51 | Industrial | that would be like the ultimate low |
| 17:00.56 | Industrial | cant get any lower then that |
| 17:00.58 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:00.59 | Mi|es | it's running on /s whenever the raid is slow :p |
| 17:01.07 | sylvanaar | there is already a trivia bot addon |
| 17:01.11 | cncfanatics | idd |
| 17:01.13 | Industrial | -_-' |
| 17:01.49 | Cartas | Okay... |
| 17:02.01 | Cartas | omega__: Now oRA2, BW, Prat and Bartender2 don't work. |
| 17:02.48 | omega__ | then you messed up something :p |
| 17:02.51 | FISKER_Q | you need the newest acehook |
| 17:03.10 | Cartas | I updated all my addons :O |
| 17:03.10 | Cartas | So, how can I get an even newer one? |
| 17:03.19 | FISKER_Q | because externals are not updated |
| 17:03.25 | FISKER_Q | download the ace2 addon |
| 17:03.27 | Cartas | I update with externals. |
| 17:03.28 | FISKER_Q | and it should work |
| 17:03.36 | haste | Cartas: externals are included in the file |
| 17:03.36 | Cartas | Okay, thanks old chap. |
| 17:03.45 | haste | hence not updated until a new relase of the add on in zipped |
| 17:03.48 | FISKER_Q | ^^ |
| 17:03.51 | haste | if you use the WowACEUpdater that is |
| 17:04.05 | sylvanaar | TriviaBot http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5367-1-triviabot.html (Or were you kidding) |
| 17:04.09 | haste | if you use the SVN it fetches the latest a couple of hundred times |
| 17:04.10 | *** join/#wowace Loppzor (n=X@c-972be055.627-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 17:04.45 | Cartas | Thanks FISKER_Q, old chap! |
| 17:04.49 | FISKER_Q | np |
| 17:04.50 | Industrial | haste: http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/397/200610241902221280x1024scrotqo3.png |
| 17:04.51 | Cartas | You're now... hm... |
| 17:04.54 | snurre | triviabot *cringes* |
| 17:05.09 | Cartas | 3rd/ 4th/ 5th best Ace-addon-maker! |
| 17:05.16 | Cartas | I wonder... |
| 17:05.21 | Mikma | sylvanaar: if you were talking to me, i wasn't kidding. |
| 17:05.35 | Cartas | Haste, Tekkub, FISKER_Q, CKKnight, Mikma! |
| 17:05.38 | FISKER_Q | i'm the worste ace-addon-maker :) |
| 17:05.41 | Cartas | Top 5 <3 |
| 17:05.44 | Cartas | Not on my list, old chap. |
| 17:05.51 | cncfanatics | i'm the worst FISKER_Q :) |
| 17:05.54 | Cartas | You're higher than CKK and Mikmá! |
| 17:06.04 | Mikma | wha? |
| 17:06.07 | Mikma | what top :P |
| 17:06.13 | Mikma | suckers of all kind? |
| 17:06.19 | haste | :D |
| 17:06.23 | Industrial | ke ke |
| 17:06.28 | haste | Industrial: looks interesting |
| 17:06.30 | FISKER_Q | yeah lol |
| 17:06.36 | FISKER_Q | take that ckknight |
| 17:06.36 | haste | but I don't know if I want to do a WM transaction again |
| 17:06.40 | haste | it's a living hell :p |
| 17:06.45 | FISKER_Q | You might've been making Ace2 from scratch |
| 17:06.46 | Cartas | Haha. |
| 17:06.49 | FISKER_Q | but hey atleast i can update addons |
| 17:06.54 | Industrial | took me 10 mins to learn |
| 17:07.19 | pb_ee1 | Question: Can we put chinese chars in the X-Credits field of the .TOC file? (example: ????) |
| 17:07.31 | pb_ee1 | Ouch doesn't display correctly on mIRC |
| 17:07.46 | mjc | pb_ee1: learn to use unicode |
| 17:07.51 | haste | pb_ee1: you can, but use UTF-8 |
| 17:07.54 | mjc | asshat. |
| 17:08.04 | Zheele | Right. Now that i have the wonderful ag_Unitframes sorted. *cheers* I seem to have problems with every single addon using AceHook 1.2... *cries* |
| 17:08.18 | mjc | Zheele: 2.1 |
| 17:08.22 | Xuerian | Zheele: Got Ace2 standalone installed? |
| 17:08.29 | mjc | Zheele: and... you're probably being a noob |
| 17:08.35 | Cartas | Same, Zheele. Just download Ace2. |
| 17:08.38 | Cartas | And everything will work. |
| 17:08.43 | pb_ee1 | I am using UTF-8, I thought it would display correctly on IRC (I thought mIRC had the UTF-8 support) |
| 17:08.52 | mjc | Zheele: don't juse use ace2 standalone |
| 17:09.01 | mjc | Zheele: enable one mod at a time until you figure out which one is fubared |
| 17:09.02 | Cartas | That's how I got mine working :O |
| 17:09.09 | mjc | pb_ee1: not enabled by default |
| 17:09.21 | mjc | Cartas: that != working |
| 17:09.26 | Cartas | It works... |
| 17:09.28 | mjc | Cartas: that == hack |
| 17:09.30 | Cartas | That's my defintion of working! |
| 17:09.46 | pb_ee1 | mjc: Are you sure? In v6.2 it is checked by default |
| 17:09.47 | mjc | Cartas: so instead of reporting a bug you just make it work for yourself and go on your merry way |
| 17:09.59 | Cartas | I reported it :| |
| 17:10.05 | mjc | pb_ee1: shrug, it is being entered as "???" by the text box |
| 17:10.07 | Cartas | I was told to put Ace2 in :P |
| 17:10.11 | Cartas | To solve it :O |
| 17:10.13 | mjc | Cartas: which mod causes it |
| 17:10.17 | Cartas | Bartender2. |
| 17:10.23 | mjc | nope |
| 17:10.25 | Cartas | Yes. |
| 17:10.33 | Cartas | That causes problems with AceHook2.1 |
| 17:10.34 | pb_ee1 | mjc: Nope, when I type it in the text box, it is displayed correctly (trying again: ????) |
| 17:10.44 | pb_ee1 | Doesn't seem to work |
| 17:10.56 | mjc | pb_ee1: get a real irc client |
| 17:11.03 | mjc | Cartas: disable everything but bartender2 |
| 17:11.06 | Cartas | If I /disable Bartender2, oSkin, oRA2, BigWigs etc. all begin to work. :O |
| 17:11.08 | mjc | Cartas: literally everything |
| 17:11.11 | pb_ee1 | mjc: I suppose I have to check the SJIS/JIS conversion |
| 17:11.20 | pb_ee1 | checkbox* |
| 17:11.25 | Cartas | I'm about to raid Kel'Thuzad, so, maybe another time, sorry old chap! :O |
| 17:11.34 | mjc | pb_ee1: shrug, I've never had any problems w/ real IRC clients and unicode |
| 17:12.11 | Cartas | and I don't trust disabling some addons :( |
| 17:12.23 | Cartas | It seems to make their settings go to defaults on some addons. |
| 17:12.25 | sylvanaar | anyone know the relationship between sw-stats and parserlib? are they branches of some earlier code? (refering to sw-stats parser) |
| 17:13.10 | weab | what makes mirc not a "real" irc client anyway |
| 17:13.10 | pb_ee1 | mjc: To be honnest, I find this really strange. But nevermind, my file is in UTF-8 i'm absolutely sure so it should commit correctly when using WoWAce |
| 17:13.10 | Cartas | The m, weab! |
| 17:13.10 | mjc | pb_ee1: k |
| 17:13.10 | pb_ee1 | SVN* even |
| 17:13.13 | mjc | pb_ee1: windows is for noobs :) |
| 17:13.16 | weab | Cartas: ah, it's so clear to me now |
| 17:13.21 | Cartas | Windows is for Windows-users :O |
| 17:13.23 | pb_ee1 | mjc: Troll incoming ;-P |
| 17:13.56 | weab | i don't use mirc anymore. but i don't understand everyone's irrational hatred of it |
| 17:13.59 | pb_ee1 | Got a Linux running 5 centimeters right of my screen ;p |
| 17:14.07 | mjc | pb_ee1: :) |
| 17:14.10 | weab | except perhaps for the trout slap |
| 17:14.11 | sylvanaar | I dont like any IRC clients that I have tried |
| 17:14.14 | weab | i can understand hating that |
| 17:14.17 | mjc | sylvanaar: I use colloquy |
| 17:14.41 | pb_ee1 | Use Telnet! (yeah it supports IRC ;p) |
| 17:14.43 | mjc | pb_ee1: OSX on the desktop, linux on servers, openbsd on routers |
| 17:15.17 | pb_ee1 | ^^ |
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| 17:16.17 | sylvanaar | i just find these early 90's interfaces hard to read, i'll check out colloquy |
| 17:16.44 | weab | colloquy is what i'm using atm. it's ok |
| 17:18.28 | sylvanaar | oh hehe - missed that we were taling about mac clients |
| 17:18.58 | haste | irssi! |
| 17:19.03 | haste | the superior client |
| 17:19.18 | Kebinusan | So looks like we're getting a 1.13 before TBC |
| 17:19.28 | pb_ee1 | Aha? |
| 17:20.33 | haste | Kebinusan: looks equals |
| 17:20.40 | haste | (notice the emptyness there) |
| 17:20.41 | Xuerian | Is there any way to iterate through a non-integer keyed table that's been sorted, in said sorted order? |
| 17:21.31 | Kebinusan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38233956&sid=1&pageNo=4#62 |
| 17:21.54 | Xuerian | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=71657276&sid=1 |
| 17:21.58 | Kebinusan | TBC release has been anounced for January and there are little tidbits ont he forums about 1.13 now |
| 17:22.14 | Elkano | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38233956&pageNo=3&sid=1#51 vs http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=71657276&sid=1#4 |
| 17:23.34 | Loppzor | Battle of the blues |
| 17:23.40 | cncfanatics | officialy Xuerian ? |
| 17:23.58 | Xuerian | Huh? We're just linking blue posts |
| 17:24.01 | Kebinusan | Remember, we were planning on patching in many things along with the release of the Burning Crusade so that those who chose not to purchase the expansion could still enjoy many new features. |
| 17:24.01 | Kebinusan | With the delay of the game, we'll be patching prior to its release. |
| 17:24.31 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 17:24.31 | cncfanatics | does that include 2.0.0 lua API ? |
| 17:24.32 | Kebinusan | cncfanatics, thats what Im wondering |
| 17:24.39 | Kebinusan | Im sure as the day goes on we'll find out |
| 17:24.48 | Loppzor | Interesting |
| 17:25.26 | Mikma | hmm patch? |
| 17:25.30 | cncfanatics | Those 2 blues just said things that are the exact contrary of eachother |
| 17:25.35 | cncfanatics | US & EU communication ftw |
| 17:25.51 | Mikma | like 1.12 -> 2.0 |
| 17:26.24 | Loppzor | I'd put my money on Eyonix being right |
| 17:26.30 | Kebinusan | Mikma, seems likely |
| 17:26.41 | Xuerian | Blah, guess I have to use a second reference table |
| 17:26.44 | Mikma | "Remember, we were planning on patching in many things along with the release of the Burning Crusade so that those who chose not to purchase the expansion could still enjoy many new features. |
| 17:26.48 | Mikma | With the delay of the game, we'll be patching prior to its release." |
| 17:27.46 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15113 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: Core: Removed a debug message I accidentally left in. |
| 17:27.48 | Kebinusan | So, we'll get 2.0 in december it looks like |
| 17:27.53 | Kebinusan | and TBC in January |
| 17:27.53 | haste | puru pururin pururu |
| 17:28.23 | bOR_ | i wanna my bloodelf paladiiin! whine whine whine! |
| 17:28.32 | bOR_ | [practicing for paladin] |
| 17:28.38 | bOR_ | :) |
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| 17:29.41 | cncfanatics | I hope not |
| 17:29.47 | cncfanatics | that would truly SUCK :p |
| 17:33.03 | Amadeo | It burnnssss! |
| 17:36.46 | Mikma | http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/sexual-games/pics/lstalker-2.gif |
| 17:36.56 | eternally777 | incoming |
| 17:37.17 | CIA-17 | 03eternally777 * r15114 10AutoBar/ (AutoBar.toc libs/): |
| 17:37.17 | CIA-17 | AutoBar: |
| 17:37.17 | CIA-17 | - The svn:externals property has been removed from the addon's base directory and placed instead on the libs directory (change made yesterday, but I think my commit message was interpreted differently). |
| 17:37.18 | CIA-17 | - Externals modified so that only the necessary components of Ace2 and PeriodicTable are in the libs folder, not the entire libraries. |
| 17:37.20 | CIA-17 | - TOC file updated to reflect the changes made to the file structure of the libs directory. |
| 17:37.22 | CIA-17 | - This commit message has been brought to you by the letter "A", and by viewers like you. |
| 17:39.25 | cncfanatics | Spam ftw |
| 17:39.29 | cncfanatics | love ya eternally777 |
| 17:39.35 | sylvanaar | im sorry, but I dont wish to pledge this year |
| 17:40.34 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: <3 |
| 17:40.39 | eternally777 | sylvanaar: </3 |
| 17:41.02 | Mikma | http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/alone.jpg |
| 17:41.05 | bOR_ | @ mikma - lol. now reading the whole article. |
| 17:41.26 | eternally777 | I love how metamap forces its minimap icon to be visible everytime you log on (if you turn off the fubar icon) |
| 17:42.33 | Mikma | Tekkub: LOL here's something for you too: http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/bacon.jpg |
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| 17:45.02 | Mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeDoWs2kW2M :D |
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| 17:46.47 | kergoth | eternally777: that is annoying. doesnt seem to let you completely disable its fubar bits :( |
| 17:47.16 | eternally777 | Someone needs to write something that simply makes the world map resizable |
| 17:47.19 | eternally777 | and movable |
| 17:48.51 | Mikma | http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/bucket.jpg |
| 17:49.30 | Mikma | HAHAHAHHAA |
| 17:49.32 | Mikma | we have a winner! |
| 17:49.33 | Mikma | http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/burgers.jpg |
| 17:49.49 | cncfanatics | can we code without spam plx ? |
| 17:50.13 | Xuerian | never |
| 17:50.29 | Mikma | you code in irc? |
| 17:50.29 | Mikma | that's rediculous |
| 17:51.11 | vhaarr | Elkano: line 79 in friendsfu: attempt to compare number with string |
| 17:51.22 | cncfanatics | I code while irc is on ;) |
| 17:51.54 | Elkano | latest? |
| 17:52.06 | Mikma | so you have spam in your code |
| 17:52.52 | vhaarr | Elkano: yes |
| 17:53.11 | cncfanatics | happens :p |
| 17:55.02 | Elkano | shouldn't happen :/ |
| 17:55.11 | Elkano | can you /dump FuBar_FriendsFu.players ? |
| 17:56.33 | vhaarr | Elkano: I don't have any /dump command |
| 17:56.50 | Elkano | install Iriel's devtools ^^ |
| 17:56.58 | haste | damn USA |
| 17:57.04 | haste | spreading halloween to other parts of the world |
| 17:57.05 | haste | EVIL! |
| 17:57.13 | vhaarr | Elkano: I've had the error for several days |
| 17:57.20 | vhaarr | Elkano: and I svn update every day |
| 17:57.22 | haste | There's shitkids ringing on the door all the time now |
| 17:57.36 | cncfanatics | not here :Ã ) |
| 17:57.39 | vhaarr | Elkano: e-mail you the SV DB or post it in the FriendsFu thread? |
| 17:58.22 | haste | They aren't getting my candy! |
| 17:58.30 | Elkano | well, it's the sorting function bugging... and this shouldn't be happening. so could you 'dump' me the abouve variable the next time it happens? |
| 17:58.31 | haste | "It BURNS" |
| 17:58.56 | Elkano | (maybe it's compost again :/ ) |
| 17:59.36 | vhaarr | Elkano: does /dump dump it to the DevTools SV? |
| 18:00.05 | Elkano | hmm, I think it only dumps into chat |
| 18:01.07 | Kebinusan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGKJcayVXU8 |
| 18:01.17 | eternally777 | Wowwiki says that UnitHealth() is not updated on the CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_BUFF event. When is it updated then? |
| 18:01.35 | pastamancer | UNIT_HEALTH perhaps? |
| 18:02.15 | eternally777 | liez |
| 18:03.06 | pastamancer | terrible, isn't it |
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| 18:04.28 | hugo654 | hi |
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| 18:05.03 | hugo654 | anyone know if OUF has some options i installed all the modules |
| 18:05.19 | hugo654 | but cant find any configuration commands , /ouf has only standby and debug |
| 18:05.19 | pastamancer | Tem: thanks again for the help with __framescript_meta. I ended up backporting the SecureRaidHeader code, and with TBC delayed it looks like it was worth it. |
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| 18:07.45 | nevcairiel | hello |
| 18:08.31 | nevcairiel | i should read my logs more often. |
| 18:08.33 | Tem | pastamancer, anytime |
| 18:09.12 | nevcairiel | (20:07:55) (Mikma) nevcairiel: the slider is suck. radiobuttons rock more since people are asking me how can they use 9 rows :P <-- no idea when you said that, but you cannot use 9 rows. it only supports a row count which you can divide the numbuttons with. |
| 18:09.21 | hugo654 | can't find OUF on wowace addon listing either |
| 18:09.33 | hugo654 | looks like they don't have a meno or any setings yet right ? |
| 18:10.18 | CIA-17 | 03eternally777 * r15115 10EPMeter/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:10.18 | CIA-17 | EPMeter: |
| 18:10.18 | CIA-17 | * "svn:eol-stype" property set to "native" on all files |
| 18:10.18 | CIA-17 | * Added RosterLib for upcoming features |
| 18:10.18 | CIA-17 | * Added a confirmation dialog box for the "reset" command |
| 18:10.37 | haste | hugo654: what about oUF? |
| 18:10.45 | Mikma | nevcairiel: yeah i know but the others want to use 9 rows so they think the slider is not working |
| 18:10.52 | Mikma | ~literal wrists |
| 18:10.56 | purl | "wrists" is "<reply>Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road!" |
| 18:11.04 | eternally777 | "stype"? That author is such a nub. who would try to steal my name on the svn anyway... |
| 18:11.07 | haste | /wrists |
| 18:11.15 | Mikma | purl: no, wrists is <reply>Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road! http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/makeitcount.jpg |
| 18:11.16 | purl | Mikma: okay |
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| 18:16.06 | Mikma | http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/naxxmount.gif |
| 18:21.16 | hugo654 | haste hi |
| 18:21.33 | haste | hugo654: hello |
| 18:21.38 | hugo654 | haste your OUF looks good but as i see it's still in development? cause i cant find any commans to configure it |
| 18:21.46 | hugo654 | commands |
| 18:21.52 | Xuerian | ~facepalm |
| 18:22.00 | haste | If you had read the topic, you would see it has a <Ctrl>-Right click menu on every frame |
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| 18:22.14 | hugo654 | what topic ? :-O |
| 18:22.29 | hugo654 | i missed it then :D thanks |
| 18:22.48 | haste | It's somewhere deep in the jungle of Ace2 AddOns on the forum |
| 18:22.51 | Mikma | http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/resistance.jpg |
| 18:23.22 | evl | funny you said that |
| 18:23.25 | evl | we're at Huhuran now :P |
| 18:23.26 | Xuerian | Bored, mik? |
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| 18:23.55 | Mikma | Xuerian: that's just supermegafunny at the momen |
| 18:23.57 | Mikma | moment |
| 18:24.12 | Mikma | since i'm actually studying things like that nowadays :) |
| 18:24.20 | Xuerian | Oh? |
| 18:24.41 | eternally777 | How can I figure out how which mod is making me go unafk whenever I try to /afk |
| 18:25.02 | Xuerian | eternally777: One by one the mods enable, hurah, hurah |
| 18:25.07 | Mikma | eternally777: auto-unafk? :) |
| 18:25.18 | hugo654 | haste :DD |
| 18:25.22 | Mikma | Xuerian: yeah, i got selected to the electronic-school over week ago |
| 18:26.04 | eternally777 | Correction: I go afk and then 2-3 minutes later it says I'm no longer afk, but it instantly says "You are now AFK" again. |
| 18:26.12 | eternally777 | for another 2-3 minutes |
| 18:26.55 | nevcairiel | i had that for a while |
| 18:27.04 | nevcairiel | until i turned off the auto-clear |
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| 18:27.16 | Xuerian | Mikma: Nice |
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| 18:27.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 18:27.43 | Xuerian | NI |
| 18:28.11 | ckknight | Mikma, why'd you send a botmail saying "fuck you, guy"? |
| 18:28.15 | nevcairiel | boo, the blue.cardplace.com is down |
| 18:28.19 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:28.28 | Xuerian | hey ckk :P |
| 18:28.45 | hugo654 | haste cool i got menu now |
| 18:28.50 | Mikma | ckknight: i was testing does it work in that way and it did :D |
| 18:29.14 | ckknight | ... |
| 18:29.23 | cncfanatics | how does WoW handle the saving of functions through sessions ? anyone knows? |
| 18:29.32 | hugo654 | haste, i tried change border in target frame, works, but in party frame it says some error line 1169 ? a nil value in otravi_Unitframes.lua |
| 18:29.38 | cncfanatics | yo ckknight btw :p |
| 18:29.42 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: I don't think that's possible |
| 18:29.53 | Mikma | ckknight: someone wanted to give you a botmessage and i tried the line and purl said "i will tell ckknight" :D |
| 18:30.12 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:30.14 | cncfanatics | guess i'll try then :p |
| 18:30.29 | Tem | cncfanatics, in normal lua that would be possible (for functions without upvalues), but wow's version of loadstring has the binary method disabled |
| 18:30.37 | eternally777 | Is Bonzai supposed to be modifying the rosterlib table? |
| 18:30.52 | Tem | so you can string.dump just fine, but you can't loadstring the result later |
| 18:31.07 | nevcairiel | eternally777: its banzai, and yes |
| 18:31.13 | cncfanatics | bah, gimp WoW |
| 18:31.22 | Tem | it was done on purpose |
| 18:31.22 | eternally777 | s/Bonzai/Banzai/ |
| 18:31.25 | eternally777 | ty |
| 18:31.30 | cncfanatics | why ? :/ |
| 18:31.40 | cncfanatics | don't think saving functions through sessions does anything bad |
| 18:31.44 | Tem | healthy paranoia |
| 18:31.57 | Tem | also, obfuscation is bad, mkay? |
| 18:32.48 | Sairen | how many trys are average on gothik the harv.? -.- |
| 18:33.44 | eternally777 | Sairen: On a good week or a bad week? |
| 18:33.51 | eternally777 | On a bad week, he can take all night :( |
| 18:34.02 | Mikma | Sairen: XAD in! |
| 18:34.04 | Sairen | eh well, we haven't killed him so far -.- |
| 18:34.10 | Xuerian | Hey. I can be sorted by user defined keys then looped through in that order. Tables can't. =( |
| 18:34.18 | Sairen | Mikma: raiding atm, so couldn't test the plugin |
| 18:34.19 | Saroz | CTRA sends 2xRESSED when people are ressed |
| 18:34.22 | Saroz | stupid mod |
| 18:34.54 | Sairen | eternally777: how many priests do you normally take to gohtik? |
| 18:35.01 | nevcairiel | Saroz: does it hurt? |
| 18:35.05 | Saroz | no |
| 18:35.20 | Saroz | but makes my programmer heart break |
| 18:35.38 | Saroz | signed Xuerian |
| 18:35.53 | cncfanatics | php arrays > all |
| 18:35.57 | cncfanatics | php > lua btw |
| 18:36.02 | Saroz | indeed |
| 18:36.05 | cncfanatics | wow shld use php engine instead of lua :p |
| 18:36.08 | Saroz | tables my ass |
| 18:36.08 | eternally777 | Sairen: umm.. I want to say 8 |
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| 18:36.10 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 18:36.32 | kergoth | sigh.. parserlib is calling print() |
| 18:36.32 | Saroz | noone had heard of lua before wow |
| 18:36.35 | Saroz | silly shits |
| 18:36.40 | kergoth | bad parserlib, bad. no cookie for you |
| 18:36.47 | kergoth | s/print/self:Print/; |
| 18:36.56 | Xuerian | lua is nice, yes, but php is just so much .... more fun ._. |
| 18:37.04 | kergoth | ew, php |
| 18:37.09 | Saroz | php pwns |
| 18:37.11 | eternally777 | kergoth: fix it plz :) |
| 18:37.28 | AKX | Xuerian... Python is FUN. PHP is OK. Lua is OK. |
| 18:37.35 | cncfanatics | Never used Python :) |
| 18:37.43 | Saroz | python is meh |
| 18:37.45 | krka | php is painful |
| 18:37.47 | Xuerian | Well I honestly can't say anything about py. Haven't gotten around to trying it :p |
| 18:37.51 | Xuerian | Painful? o.0 |
| 18:37.54 | alcaras | lisp is ecstasy |
| 18:37.57 | cncfanatics | php painfull ? |
| 18:37.58 | alcaras | python is just a shadow of lisp |
| 18:38.04 | cncfanatics | php is the most easy language & easy to use |
| 18:38.05 | alcaras | php is quick, nice, and doesn't involve thinking |
| 18:38.13 | kergoth | python or ruby are the way to go. php is okay for perl people, and perl is good for text mangling |
| 18:38.14 | cncfanatics | and is very complete |
| 18:38.15 | alcaras | lisp is beautiful but takes a certain mode of thought |
| 18:38.20 | usz | i dont know much about lisp, yet i had to program alot in ocaml |
| 18:38.27 | usz | and i must say i loved the idea |
| 18:38.28 | haste | hugo654: reload your UI, the party border options are... meeeh |
| 18:38.28 | cncfanatics | bleh, I barely every heard of lisp |
| 18:38.33 | haste | didn't think they error tho' |
| 18:38.40 | nevcairiel | the php implementation ( at least of 5.x ) is very clean imho, good language |
| 18:38.41 | usz | tho i dont like logic programming, like prolog etc |
| 18:38.44 | kergoth | if you havent heard of lisp, your computer science education is lacking |
| 18:38.55 | cncfanatics | well, i'm 17 :p |
| 18:38.55 | kergoth | read SAICP |
| 18:38.59 | kergoth | ah, right then. |
| 18:39.17 | nevcairiel | ive heard of lisp, but never used or seen any source |
| 18:39.19 | kergoth | php is definately not the easiest language, you haven't used enough languages to say that with authority :) |
| 18:39.20 | krka | php is way too ugly for serious usage |
| 18:39.31 | usz | idd |
| 18:39.34 | cncfanatics | true krka |
| 18:39.36 | nevcairiel | whats ugly about it? |
| 18:39.37 | cncfanatics | but so is lua tbh :/ |
| 18:39.40 | usz | php is too messy with all the libs etc |
| 18:39.57 | krka | lua is not ugly, it is a very small and neat language |
| 18:40.02 | Xuerian | And this is why I said I miss php arrays.... :P |
| 18:40.05 | usz | lua as a core language is pretty nice, too bad WoW UI is such a crap |
| 18:40.16 | cncfanatics | well, look at the FB2 code |
| 18:40.22 | cncfanatics | (flexbar2, not fubar2) |
| 18:40.25 | cncfanatics | its ugly imo |
| 18:40.38 | usz | when you look into FrameXML, you might think some ppl who didnt have any clue about programming coded some stuff there... |
| 18:40.40 | nevcairiel | you can code clean and goodlooking in every language imo |
| 18:40.41 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r15116 10sRaidFrames/ (localization.enUS.lua sRaidFrames.lua): |
| 18:40.41 | CIA-17 | sRaidFrames: |
| 18:40.41 | CIA-17 | - Added "Can recover" and "Resurrected" when people are dead with soul stone or ressed. Might need a bit more testing and optimization though. -Requires oRA2- |
| 18:40.41 | CIA-17 | - Props to nevcairiel |
| 18:40.42 | Sun\Nether | toadkiller present ? :) |
| 18:40.47 | cncfanatics | thats true usz :) |
| 18:40.47 | Xuerian | kergoth: Yeah, data manip is easy in php, that's what I bang my head against in everything else. >_< |
| 18:40.52 | cncfanatics | they have no clue :p |
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| 18:41.09 | cncfanatics | XML in WoW sucks anyway |
| 18:41.10 | usz | still there is one other explanation about it, maybe it runs faster than pretty code :D |
| 18:41.21 | nevcairiel | Saroz: did you get a shaman to test ? |
| 18:41.27 | cncfanatics | generating frames through XML suchs, lua is the way to go |
| 18:41.38 | cncfanatics | s/suchs/sucks |
| 18:41.46 | kergoth | lua is a great elegant little language, it just doesnt give you enough existing convenient libraries and built in capabilities to be a fast prototyping language, the way python, ruby, php or perl are, or very suitable for large projects |
| 18:42.03 | cncfanatics | lua code is a pain in the ass to manage if u don't build ur own libs |
| 18:42.20 | Saroz | nevcairiel, no |
| 18:42.27 | Saroz | horde doesn't exist in my world |
| 18:42.37 | nevcairiel | the API function is named HasSoulstone() |
| 18:42.39 | cncfanatics | ally shammy's exist too in BC ya know |
| 18:42.42 | Saroz | yea I know |
| 18:42.48 | nevcairiel | and can recover sucks |
| 18:42.49 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 18:42.49 | Saroz | cncfanatics, not in my world |
| 18:43.00 | cncfanatics | trust me, if u raid they will sooner or later |
| 18:43.09 | Saroz | nah |
| 18:43.12 | Saroz | maybe for windfury |
| 18:43.15 | Saroz | but otherwise, no |
| 18:43.18 | nevcairiel | i suppressed that |
| 18:43.25 | alcaras | sanity check here: if i want stats for an item (e.g. +5 str) i have to parse its tooltip right? no nice functional way of getting at it? |
| 18:43.27 | nevcairiel | stupid shammys, will only take up druid raid space |
| 18:43.46 | nevcairiel | yeah i think so alcaras |
| 18:43.51 | cncfanatics | use BonusScanner |
| 18:43.53 | Mikma | hey what's the colors for the classes now |
| 18:43.55 | alcaras | that terrifies me... it seems like such bad design :( |
| 18:43.59 | Mikma | shaman and paladin... ? |
| 18:44.04 | cncfanatics | pala pink ofc |
| 18:44.06 | ckknight | pally stayed the same |
| 18:44.13 | alcaras | cncfanatics: is there a nice guide on how to use bonusscanner somewhere? or can it work on a per item basis or only for equipped items? |
| 18:44.14 | eternally777 | How does the "#" operator work in WoW-2.0? |
| 18:44.20 | nevcairiel | and shaman? |
| 18:44.21 | eternally777 | I read it replaces table.setn |
| 18:44.22 | ckknight | eternally777, like table.getn |
| 18:44.23 | kergoth | cncfanatics: well thats exactly the philosophy of lua. doing more with less. you're expected to build what you need, or find a lib someone else wrote to do what you need |
| 18:44.25 | kergoth | ~zen of lua |
| 18:44.26 | purl | Doing more with less. --Martin Hollis |
| 18:44.29 | eternally777 | ckknight: But how is it used |
| 18:44.33 | ckknight | #t |
| 18:44.42 | Mikma | shamans color? |
| 18:45.00 | alcaras | thanks for the suggestion cncfanatics, i'll look into bonusscanner |
| 18:45.05 | usz | alcaras, i am coding Lib for full item info parsing for saving in my other item DB mod, so in day or two it should be done |
| 18:45.23 | alcaras | usz: ah awesome, i hope it is tbc compatible -- what will it be called? |
| 18:45.29 | cncfanatics | wld be nice to have an ace2 lib to do all tooltip scanning ? |
| 18:45.37 | cncfanatics | I don't mean only items, also spells & such |
| 18:45.38 | eternally777 | ckknight: if that's used to retrieve a tables size, how do you set it? |
| 18:45.40 | alcaras | you'd think item parsing would be built into wow's default api :-/ |
| 18:45.52 | usz | ItemStats? just a development name so far :D |
| 18:45.53 | alcaras | i hate having to rewrite the wheel for the simplest things -- that's why i <3 ace! |
| 18:46.18 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: I started something like that awhile ago |
| 18:46.27 | usz | anyways like i say, i got free day tomorrow so i guess i will spend some hours on it and you can expect soem results in 2 days :D |
| 18:46.34 | cncfanatics | whats the ETA on it ? |
| 18:46.42 | cncfanatics | such a thing wld be VERY usefull, if its light |
| 18:47.02 | usz | 2-3 days tops to get into SVN |
| 18:47.02 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: none. I stopped working on it when I realized the immensity of the undertaking. |
| 18:47.12 | ckknight | eternally777, you don't set the size, it's calculated for you |
| 18:47.12 | kergoth | eternally777: you dont set it. |
| 18:47.19 | kergoth | just be careful with tables with holes |
| 18:47.28 | kergoth | the return is then undefined |
| 18:48.07 | pastamancer | oh it's defined |
| 18:48.13 | cncfanatics | usz, will it be an embed lib? |
| 18:48.17 | pastamancer | #table counts up to the first nil |
| 18:48.43 | usz | cncfanatics, rather AceLibrary lib |
| 18:48.45 | omega__ | hms, anyone else have timers on BigWigs in Maexxna beeing abit off? |
| 18:49.05 | kergoth | pastamancer: no, thats an effect. that isnt guaranteed, from everything i've read on the lua mailing list |
| 18:49.15 | usz | but ofc making embed version will be np as it will be done :D |
| 18:49.19 | kergoth | that may be the case, but that doesnt make it defined that way |
| 18:49.30 | kergoth | usz: woo, glad to hear that, such a lib will be most useful |
| 18:49.51 | sylvanaar | i was asking this earlier - how many of you use the OnUpdateData in Fubar-Plugin? |
| 18:50.10 | usz | anyways i imported into SVN 2 libs today, MD5 lib and TEA (encryption lib) |
| 18:50.24 | sylvanaar | omega__: my guild did maexnna last night - timers - spot on except maybe the first |
| 18:50.38 | pastamancer | kergoth: ah, I see "If the array has "holes" (that is, nil values between other non-nil values), then #t may be any of the indices that directly precedes a nil value (that is, it may consider any such nil value as the end of the array)." |
| 18:50.46 | Loppzor | cncfanatics: There's always gratuity to scan tooltips |
| 18:50.49 | omega__ | sylvanaar: k |
| 18:51.04 | omega__ | perhaps I jsut missunderstand them :p |
| 18:51.33 | sylvanaar | omega__: somw people were complaining though |
| 18:51.35 | cncfanatics | I Hate scanning tooltips :/ |
| 18:51.48 | cncfanatics | shld never have to be done if blizz coded its API halfdecently |
| 18:52.27 | usz | kergoth, good to hear that, i was planning to code one for some time now as string.find on full cached tooltips tends to be quite slow way of finding items with "change to hit by |
| 18:52.30 | cncfanatics | btw, is there an "explode" function in lua ? like the php one |
| 18:52.37 | ckknight | unpack |
| 18:52.40 | FtH|eagle | anyone very good with python and reg exp? need some help :/ |
| 18:52.43 | omega__ | does bigwigs sync in anyway? |
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| 18:52.51 | omega__ | and could it be made to sync with la vendetta? |
| 18:52.54 | kergoth | FtH|eagle: i'm fairly good at both |
| 18:53.24 | cncfanatics | ckknight, unpack is an array |
| 18:53.31 | cncfanatics | explode transforms a string into a table |
| 18:53.35 | ckknight | isn't that what you want/ |
| 18:53.35 | Tem | unpack is a function |
| 18:53.36 | ckknight | oh |
| 18:53.37 | ckknight | okay |
| 18:53.41 | sylvanaar | omega__: it syncs, yeah - but not with vendetta |
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| 18:53.44 | ckknight | um |
| 18:53.59 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: There's split/explode in one of deformat or parserlib |
| 18:53.59 | ckknight | use string.gmatch and create the table how you want. |
| 18:54.08 | omega__ | sylvanaar: ok |
| 18:54.24 | Tem | cncfanatics, http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaRecipes |
| 18:54.42 | Tem | hey, kergoth, remember this one? http://lua-users.org/wiki/FunctionalTuples |
| 18:54.47 | cncfanatics | me hails Tem and ckknight |
| 18:54.52 | sylvanaar | omega__: you have to really force your guild to keep up to date |
| 18:55.44 | kergoth | Tem: yeah, those are neat |
| 18:55.49 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r15117 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib - Fix the attempt to dereference 'print', a nil value error. |
| 18:55.53 | kergoth | i've used those in code before, functions are slightly less overhead than tables |
| 18:56.03 | Tem | I stumbled upon it again last night |
| 18:57.13 | omega__ | sylvanaar: mhm, I think the problem is most use la vendetta |
| 18:57.50 | sylvanaar | omega__: yeah - you need the MT to be running it at least |
| 18:58.51 | kergoth | Tem: they're useful for things that you know have a fixed # of values, and know ahead of time how many that is... and are willing to pay the function call overhead to obtain the values (slightly slower than table access) |
| 18:58.56 | kergoth | their example of coordinates is a good oen |
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| 18:59.12 | omega__ | sylvanaar: and it would be hard to make it sync with la vendetta I guess? |
| 18:59.36 | Tem | kergoth, actually if you have enough values to access at once, a function closure is faster (and smaller memory wise) than a table |
| 18:59.41 | Tem | which is pretty neat |
| 18:59.54 | kergoth | thats true, its one call instead of multiple lookups |
| 18:59.56 | kergoth | good point |
| 19:01.02 | sylvanaar | omega__: no sure, guess it would depend on what was being synced. raw event data vs. custom stuff for example |
| 19:01.16 | omega__ | mhm |
| 19:03.41 | Loppzor | ckknight: How come if you try to copy a profile and already have the same type of profile selected it doesn't work? |
| 19:04.09 | ckknight | I don't know |
| 19:04.42 | Loppzor | Hmm... |
| 19:04.48 | Loppzor | Should it work? |
| 19:05.59 | vhaarr | ckknight: I reported some issues to you in PM earlier so you'd see them when you came back, did you get them? |
| 19:06.08 | ckknight | nope |
| 19:11.34 | CIA-17 | 03leech * r15118 10dgks/ (dgks.lua dgks.toc dgks.xml): dgks: Real pc/npc filtering added |
| 19:11.49 | usz | btw whats the best degisn pattern for localization inside lib? as item tooltip parsing will require localization to find separate stats |
| 19:11.59 | andg | ckknight, can you tell me what that target problem was? |
| 19:12.14 | ckknight | I have no idea what you're talking about. |
| 19:12.24 | andg | I got some meno from you :( |
| 19:12.35 | andg | so it's fine? |
| 19:12.41 | andg | at work right now so can't test it |
| 19:12.50 | ckknight | oh, you're ag` |
| 19:12.50 | FISKER_Q | btw ckknight |
| 19:12.55 | andg | ckknight, yes |
| 19:12.56 | ckknight | stop changing your name |
| 19:12.56 | FISKER_Q | i'm a better addon maker than you |
| 19:13.04 | ckknight | FISKER_Q, go fuck yourself, I'm not in the mood |
| 19:13.04 | andg | ckknight, it's my work computer |
| 19:13.05 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 19:13.11 | FISKER_Q | thanks :/ |
| 19:13.22 | andg | you're such a troublemaker FISKER_Q |
| 19:13.41 | ckknight | andg, basically, I targetted an NPC, then another, and the agUF target didn't change |
| 19:13.50 | andg | ok, did you try latest rev? |
| 19:14.04 | ckknight | yea, that was the latest revision, last night, that is |
| 19:15.32 | andg | strange, I just tested it before I went to work and it... worked |
| 19:16.02 | andg | on target change I check the target name I think |
| 19:16.09 | andg | oh wait, that's not what I do |
| 19:16.12 | andg | let me take a look |
| 19:16.48 | andg | what rev do you have? |
| 19:17.10 | FISKER_Q | noo andg :( |
| 19:17.17 | andg | what? |
| 19:17.19 | FISKER_Q | was just some guy who had a problem with his addons and acehook |
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| 19:17.34 | FISKER_Q | so i told him that the externals on zipped files weren't updated so he had to downloade ace2 standalone |
| 19:17.41 | FISKER_Q | and then i was the 3rd best addonmaker :I |
| 19:17.47 | FISKER_Q | after haste and Industrial |
| 19:18.01 | haste | haha |
| 19:18.04 | andg | not sure I understand the point :/ |
| 19:18.54 | andg | ckknight, do you have a rev number? |
| 19:19.04 | ckknight | I'm really busy |
| 19:19.07 | ckknight | I'll get back to you. |
| 19:19.12 | andg | ok... we can handle it later |
| 19:19.33 | yacoob | hm |
| 19:20.07 | yacoob | kc_items bombs up on t0 set items (tooltip overflows) in mixed tooltip mode, and in separate tooltip mode, sometimes it loses the connection between tooltips |
| 19:20.11 | yacoob | is there a fix for that? |
| 19:21.23 | evl | Hmms |
| 19:21.29 | evl | does iceblock work on huhu? |
| 19:21.32 | evl | we have a soaking problem |
| 19:21.38 | sylvanaar | any of you use the sw stats beta? |
| 19:21.48 | andg | oh hi FISKER_Q. I just upgraded your ram |
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| 19:22.27 | andg | sylvanaar, is it an ace addon? |
| 19:22.27 | andg | I'd like to know |
| 19:22.27 | andg | :P |
| 19:22.54 | sylvanaar | andg: it isnt, but there is a Fubar plugin for it written by the author |
| 19:23.25 | sylvanaar | and there is another Fubar plugin written by another author on the svn here |
| 19:23.36 | sylvanaar | same name |
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| 19:25.07 | entropism | Syl, I use it, why? |
| 19:26.10 | sylvanaar | well - you can see the issue with WAU at least - possiblyi mixing up the 2 fubar plugins |
| 19:26.19 | entropism | Hmmm |
| 19:26.29 | entropism | I've never noticed 2 listings for it on WAU |
| 19:26.38 | entropism | but there are two autobar options |
| 19:26.49 | sylvanaar | sw stats author's isnt in the svn |
| 19:27.17 | entropism | well, the guy who wrote SWStats didnt want to go the ace route. The plugin was done without his help (from what I know) |
| 19:28.00 | leech2k | evl: iceblock and pally shields work for huhu, but u really need the mages doing dps |
| 19:28.52 | cncfanatics | tell them to respec full fire raid spec |
| 19:28.56 | sylvanaar | i think what im getting at is how do you hande name collisions like this? |
| 19:29.02 | cncfanatics | I hit 800 dos aprox at huhu |
| 19:29.11 | cncfanatics | s/dos/dps; |
| 19:29.24 | leech2k | yep if u guys are done with mc definitely go fire mages |
| 19:29.26 | CIA-17 | 03eternally777 * r15119 10EPMeter/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:29.26 | CIA-17 | EPMeter: |
| 19:29.26 | CIA-17 | * Added version handling to reset the database, if necessary, when updating to a new revision |
| 19:29.26 | CIA-17 | * Added over-healing calculation |
| 19:29.32 | cncfanatics | done bwl rather :p |
| 19:29.44 | cncfanatics | fire is fine for MC, its in BWL its a pain imo |
| 19:29.54 | leech2k | ya thats what I ment |
| 19:30.27 | cncfanatics | god damnit |
| 19:30.31 | entropism | Sylvanaar, I havent seen it with SWStats, as I said (unless it started today), but with autobar I get the double entries, and WAU doesnt seem to have a problem with it. There's a listing for Autobar and Auto Bar |
| 19:32.31 | cncfanatics | can someone help me with some regular expressions ? |
| 19:32.35 | cncfanatics | I'm kinda lost :/ |
| 19:32.43 | sylvanaar | entropism, this is a slightly different thing. In autobar's case its really just 1 mod. In Fubar_SWStatsFu there are 2 mods with the same name, 1 isn't in the SVN, but can accidentally get overwritten when updating using WAU |
| 19:33.16 | entropism | guess you just have to manually uncheck it *shrug* |
| 19:33.31 | entropism | I understand what you mean though |
| 19:33.36 | entropism | wish I could help more |
| 19:34.13 | sylvanaar | doesnt bother me personally...i was just inquiring |
| 19:34.19 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/1781 |
| 19:34.19 | weab | cncfanatics: what regex problem are you having |
| 19:34.26 | cncfanatics | can u check that code ? |
| 19:34.44 | cncfanatics | first, I'd like a way to not use string.gmatch in loops & breaking em right away, bit pointless but I dunno what function to use |
| 19:34.55 | cncfanatics | and also, the matching to get the suffix ain't working |
| 19:35.12 | cncfanatics | (the string i'm checking with is: $(ic Silithid Carapace Fragment) |
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| 19:35.44 | entropism | Syl, until Minimalist and OneBag gets updated, I have to manually uncheck each time. Driving me nuts |
| 19:36.42 | cncfanatics | weab, got an idea ? |
| 19:37.16 | entropism | Hmmmph...the new "patch" they're doing in place of the expansion is bringing WoW to 2.0. Which means the coding changes with none of the good stuff |
| 19:37.23 | eternally777 | cncfanatics: doesn't "$" mean the end of a string? |
| 19:37.31 | cncfanatics | only when used at the end of a string |
| 19:37.36 | cncfanatics | in other places it has no special meaning |
| 19:37.42 | eternally777 | Orly? |
| 19:37.46 | cncfanatics | and the prefix stuff is working :p |
| 19:37.50 | cncfanatics | its getting the suffix that ain't working :( |
| 19:38.06 | cncfanatics | and can I use anything but string.gmatch btw ? |
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| 19:38.55 | entropism | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=38703926&pageNo=4&sid=1#64 |
| 19:39.01 | eternally777 | I've never attempted what you're trying to do. |
| 19:39.20 | cncfanatics | basicly seperating a string -.- |
| 19:40.05 | cncfanatics | Tseric still the same as usual |
| 19:40.12 | cncfanatics | sad he used to be mage CM |
| 19:40.21 | cncfanatics | (and in fact, still is, but noone consideres him to be) |
| 19:41.29 | eternally777 | Sorry, I'm nub. |
| 19:41.35 | cncfanatics | someone, come on -.- |
| 19:41.36 | eternally777 | ~roullette |
| 19:41.53 | eternally777 | wtf.. I forget how to spell |
| 19:42.12 | weab | so |
| 19:42.32 | weab | suffix is supposed to be what |
| 19:42.58 | cncfanatics | $(ic Silithid Carapace Fragment) is my start string |
| 19:43.03 | cncfanatics | prefix is suposed to be "ic" |
| 19:43.05 | cncfanatics | (which works) |
| 19:43.12 | cncfanatics | and suffic is suposed to be Silithid Carapace Fragment |
| 19:43.56 | weab | i'm a bit confused why the loops |
| 19:44.11 | cncfanatics | cuz I don't know what other function to use :) |
| 19:44.16 | cncfanatics | tell me how to do it without loop heh |
| 19:44.22 | cncfanatics | I break it right away anyway -.- |
| 19:45.35 | cncfanatics | weab ? |
| 19:46.16 | weab | i'm a bit rusty with my lua since i quit about eight months ago. |
| 19:47.46 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: is the prefix always going to be "ic"? |
| 19:47.52 | cncfanatics | no |
| 19:48.01 | cncfanatics | it just is in this case :p |
| 19:48.04 | pastamancer | will it ever contain spaces? |
| 19:48.08 | cncfanatics | no |
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| 19:49.28 | weab | _,_,match1,match2 = string.find(Flexbar.durka, "$%(%w+) (.+)%)") |
| 19:49.32 | weab | or something of the sort |
| 19:49.48 | cncfanatics | :o string.find works for that, good :) |
| 19:51.54 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/1785 |
| 19:51.56 | cncfanatics | is that fine ? |
| 19:52.41 | weab | doubtful |
| 19:55.16 | cncfanatics | strfind only returns locations right ? |
| 19:55.35 | pastamancer | not if you put () in your patterns |
| 19:55.42 | cncfanatics | lemme try |
| 19:55.43 | weab | you should be able to pull out both variables with one find |
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| 19:56.04 | cncfanatics | finaly |
| 19:56.07 | cncfanatics | thanks weab, pastamancer |
| 19:56.14 | cncfanatics | local _, _, prefix, suffix = string.find(match, "(%a*) (.*)"); |
| 19:56.15 | cncfanatics | works |
| 19:57.15 | weab | you shouldn't need the gmatch if you're still using it |
| 19:57.25 | cncfanatics | i'm only using it once |
| 19:57.36 | cncfanatics | at start, to loop over multiple $() stuff |
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| 19:58.37 | pastamancer | you could still probably merge the gfind and the find |
| 19:58.39 | weab | local _, _, prefix, suffix = string.find(FlexBar2.Model:GetButtonSetting(class.ButtonNumber, "TextField" .. i), "$%((%a*) (.*)%)"); |
| 19:58.43 | weab | should work just as well |
| 19:58.57 | cncfanatics | it won't if the string is: |
| 19:59.03 | pastamancer | I'd got with (.-)%)" at the end of the regex rather then .* |
| 19:59.07 | cncfanatics | $(ic Blabla) $(fb) |
| 19:59.09 | pastamancer | s/got/go/ |
| 19:59.35 | cncfanatics | btw, sometimes there also won't be a suffix |
| 19:59.41 | cncfanatics | so there won't be a space as well after the prefix |
| 19:59.44 | cncfanatics | how to fix that ? |
| 19:59.51 | weab | ? |
| 19:59.59 | cncfanatics | ([ ]-), would that work ? |
| 20:00.15 | weab | question mark was the answer actually |
| 20:00.30 | pastamancer | "$%((%a*) ?(.-)%)" |
| 20:00.37 | cncfanatics | ok, thanks :) |
| 20:01.43 | pastamancer | lua's regex is wierd, I miss my zero-width assertions, non-capturing groups and alternating |
| 20:01.54 | cncfanatics | I never used regexes a lot |
| 20:01.55 | kergoth | it doesnt deserve the name regex |
| 20:02.00 | cncfanatics | true :p |
| 20:02.06 | weab | lua's doesn't |
| 20:02.10 | pastamancer | being able to match balanced parens is nice though |
| 20:02.44 | kergoth | i'd be happy with posix regex, but you know lua.. they're anal about standards, they dont even use c98/c99 C |
| 20:03.06 | pastamancer | pcre all the way |
| 20:03.25 | kergoth | true that, perl's extended regex is nice indeed |
| 20:03.33 | weab | pcre's can get ugly |
| 20:03.37 | weab | but that's why we love them |
| 20:03.39 | kergoth | you know what annoys me most about the various regex implementations |
| 20:03.44 | kergoth | the default behavior of special characters |
| 20:03.50 | kergoth | what needs to be escaped and what doesnt varies |
| 20:03.53 | kergoth | drives me up the wall |
| 20:04.19 | weab | nod. i tend to escape nearly everything to avoid that |
| 20:04.53 | cncfanatics | one more bug, hmmm |
| 20:05.19 | cncfanatics | nvm, fixed :p |
| 20:06.26 | cncfanatics | yay, fully working :) |
| 20:06.49 | pastamancer | what gets me is that basic regex requires \(\) to group but extended regex uses () |
| 20:06.54 | cncfanatics | now I need to replace the matches I found with returns from functions :) |
| 20:10.28 | kergoth | pastamancer: yeah, thats the biggest annoyance for me, too |
| 20:10.36 | kergoth | especially between sed and perl |
| 20:10.41 | kergoth | both of which i use for oneliners on a daily basis |
| 20:11.40 | pastamancer | oh sweet sed, how I wish some other tool would allow for IFS to be a regex just like you |
| 20:12.04 | kergoth | IFS? |
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| 20:12.20 | pastamancer | wait no, that's awk |
| 20:12.24 | pastamancer | input field separator |
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| 20:12.40 | pastamancer | I rarely use one without the other (sed, awk) |
| 20:13.38 | Industrial | and lua needs to support regex |
| 20:13.41 | Industrial | and not patterns |
| 20:13.43 | cncfanatics | it does |
| 20:13.46 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:13.54 | Industrial | cant even make a (|) |
| 20:14.12 | kergoth | oh, yes, awk's IFS stuff is godly |
| 20:14.15 | Industrial | this or that |
| 20:14.26 | kergoth | can do the same thing with perl of course, but.. |
| 20:14.37 | pastamancer | perl's IFS is only a string not a regex |
| 20:14.38 | Industrial | (a|b) a or b |
| 20:14.42 | kergoth | lua's patterns are not regex imo |
| 20:14.46 | kergoth | its a pattern, not a regex |
| 20:14.54 | Industrial | but nooooo now I need 15 regex replacements what I could do in one with regex |
| 20:15.00 | Industrial | pattern replacements* |
| 20:15.16 | kergoth | pastamancer: the split function is our friend :) |
| 20:16.14 | pastamancer | I'd kill for a better GC so I could actually use map/filter/reduce and use functions without side-effects |
| 20:16.21 | kergoth | cncfanatics: sed and awk are commands in most unix like systems, used in shell scripting, especially used by sysadmins |
| 20:16.26 | pastamancer | kergoth: true |
| 20:16.40 | cncfanatics | well, i'm on an unix system :p |
| 20:16.48 | kergoth | incremental gc helps, but its annoying that you cant selectively allocate something either on the stack, or on the heap but set to free on return |
| 20:16.58 | kergoth | s/return/end of that block/ |
| 20:17.04 | pastamancer | I want SBCL's gc |
| 20:17.14 | kergoth | sbcl? |
| 20:17.29 | kergoth | has anyone here played with the D programming language? |
| 20:17.33 | kergoth | quite nifty |
| 20:17.35 | pastamancer | one of the better free lisps |
| 20:17.39 | cncfanatics | FlexBar2.Model:GetTempData("TextSubTable")[prefix](suffix); |
| 20:17.39 | kergoth | ah |
| 20:17.42 | cncfanatics | would this work ppl ? :p |
| 20:17.49 | kergoth | my lisp experience is limited, mostly to scheme |
| 20:18.04 | kergoth | cncfanatics: the syntax is valid, if thats your question |
| 20:18.08 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: I fear for your sanity |
| 20:18.30 | cncfanatics | why pastamancer ? :p |
| 20:18.33 | cncfanatics | thanks kergoth |
| 20:18.42 | kergoth | pastamancer: if lua's gc was a bit better itd be easier to code in a functional fashion in lua.. as it stands today, blech |
| 20:18.50 | kergoth | too inefficient |
| 20:18.52 | pastamancer | kergoth: exactly |
| 20:19.38 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: you should really be breaking your code down into smaller reusable functions and using local variables so you don't end up with lines that make me want to go crosseyed |
| 20:20.01 | kergoth | i feel like coding something |
| 20:20.01 | cncfanatics | I do pastamancer :) |
| 20:20.10 | kergoth | but what.. |
| 20:20.10 | cncfanatics | thats a very small bit of my code :p |
| 20:20.14 | Industrial | kergoth: finish it :P |
| 20:20.16 | pastamancer | a local textSubTable = Flexbar2.Model:GetTempData("TextSubTable") outside your loop would go a long ways |
| 20:20.21 | kergoth | a very small ugly bit of your code :P |
| 20:20.30 | cncfanatics | I don't like using locals when I don't have to |
| 20:20.37 | pastamancer | locals are fast |
| 20:20.40 | kergoth | heh, he's doing that in a loop? ick, tha tmany lookups in a loop is a terrible performance problem |
| 20:20.48 | Industrial | my code? my code is beautiful :P |
| 20:20.57 | kergoth | not yours, cnc's |
| 20:21.03 | Industrial | (*puke*) |
| 20:21.10 | cncfanatics | my code is ugly as well hehe |
| 20:21.17 | cncfanatics | go checkout FB2 & tell me if its ugly or not :) |
| 20:21.22 | cncfanatics | wondering heh |
| 20:21.58 | kergoth | MVC style eh, i started playing around with that design pattern in Qt4 |
| 20:22.06 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 20:22.18 | cncfanatics | most code in controller |
| 20:22.25 | pastamancer | cncfanatics: needs more self |
| 20:22.41 | cncfanatics | can't use it with sub-tables unfortunatly |
| 20:22.53 | cncfanatics | only in FlexBar2:something() I cld us it |
| 20:23.10 | pastamancer | I'm looking at function FlexBar2:OnInitialize() |
| 20:23.10 | kergoth | you can, but you'd have to explicitly pass self, not using :, since : will pass the subtable as self |
| 20:24.04 | pastamancer | Grid ended up being farily MVC but that was just because of the flexibility and modularity desired. |
| 20:24.37 | pastamancer | also what's with the global functions at the bottom of FlexBar2.lua? |
| 20:24.52 | cncfanatics | some testing & crashing stuff |
| 20:24.56 | cncfanatics | the c() function used to make WoW crash |
| 20:24.59 | cncfanatics | but blizz fixed it |
| 20:25.16 | cncfanatics | and the tracker() function I use it when I need to know what functions are triggered on some events |
| 20:25.23 | pastamancer | why would you ever call a function 'c'? |
| 20:25.47 | cncfanatics | just had to make it a short as possible to fit in a macro to send to blizz |
| 20:25.53 | cncfanatics | barely managed to get it in the 255 char limit |
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| 20:28.28 | hiflyer | I'm getting a problem after updating my ace addons on one pc that don't exist on the other one...maybe someone here can help? |
| 20:29.03 | hiflyer | I get "<Sub-AceAddonAceDB-2.0 AceHook-2.1 AceEvent-2.0 AceConsole-2.0) Instance> Error loading load on demand plugin xx" on startup |
| 20:29.36 | hiflyer | and a popup with "AceHook2.1 AceHook.lua 537 attempt to index a nil value" originating from BigWigs...when I login |
| 20:30.30 | hiflyer | if I disable BigWigs the AceHook problem is still there but comes from another addon |
| 20:30.33 | Industrial | I dont understand how the other pc is related to the error on this pc |
| 20:30.45 | hiflyer | I have the same set of mods on them |
| 20:30.56 | hiflyer | and updated at the same time using WinAceUpdater |
| 20:31.08 | Industrial | hiflyer: try using bugsack, it will tell you exactly what addon errored |
| 20:31.21 | cncfanatics | copy the addon folder of the pc that works (including wtf & wdb) & put them on the comp that dsnt work ? |
| 20:31.24 | hiflyer | bugsack, kk. Will look at it :) |
| 20:31.45 | hiflyer | cncfanatics: that will replace the setting too right? |
| 20:31.45 | Industrial | and !BugGrabber |
| 20:31.45 | Amadeo | do you guys any use any different fonts in WoW? |
| 20:31.46 | Industrial | heh |
| 20:31.53 | Industrial | Amadeo: clearfont with verdana |
| 20:31.58 | Amadeo | Verdana, huh? |
| 20:32.05 | Industrial | yesh |
| 20:32.10 | Industrial | i dont like calibri |
| 20:32.15 | Amadeo | lemme check out Verdana |
| 20:32.28 | Industrial | its a standard windows font |
| 20:32.32 | Amadeo | I know, but I mean in game |
| 20:32.36 | Industrial | since like, windows 95 :P |
| 20:32.38 | Industrial | oh k |
| 20:32.41 | Amadeo | haha |
| 20:33.14 | Amadeo | is it a pain to put in your own fonts? |
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| 20:33.40 | cncfanatics | u can ommit ur wtf & wdb folder if u don't want settings replaced |
| 20:34.06 | Industrial | copy a font over tot he clearfont dir and copy and rename it to the filenames of the fonts already there.. |
| 20:34.13 | Industrial | clearfont readme describes it |
| 20:34.13 | Industrial | :D |
| 20:34.28 | Amadeo | Yeah, but it's more fun to torment you by asking |
| 20:35.07 | weab | he did a giant smile: :D |
| 20:35.10 | weab | doesn't look like torment |
| 20:35.18 | Amadeo | He's crying on the inside |
| 20:35.24 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 20:35.28 | weab | no, that's: D: |
| 20:35.53 | Amadeo | Now you're getting fancy |
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| 20:36.57 | Amadeo | I still haven't learned all the new Japanese smilies you kids use |
| 20:37.00 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2777.new#new |
| 20:37.07 | Industrial | some people need to die |
| 20:37.15 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:37.30 | Industrial | 'i fixed it using !!!standalonelibscrap' |
| 20:37.36 | snurre | weeds.211.hdtv.xvid-kyr.avi wee |
| 20:37.51 | Industrial | weeds.211 ? |
| 20:38.10 | snurre | season 2, episode 11 |
| 20:38.40 | Industrial | 'dude you still high? yeah. me too.' next episode? |
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| 20:39.23 | snurre | nah, not like that |
| 20:39.45 | snurre | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0439100/ |
| 20:40.02 | pastamancer | no, sometimes she leaves the suburbs to talk to black people and get advice on selling weed |
| 20:40.33 | pastamancer | it's not a bad show from what I've seen of it |
| 20:40.53 | snurre | she's a milf |
| 20:40.55 | Industrial | oh cool its really about weed |
| 20:40.56 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:42.00 | pb_ee1 | Erm... I'm trying to upload my mod in the trunk folder of the sandbox SVN, but it won't work at all, even if my Commit Note is exactly the same as the name of my AddOn/Folder where I want to upload. Am I doing something wrong? |
| 20:42.03 | Jens | Lost roll on Touch of Chaos for the hundredth time!!! |
| 20:42.10 | Azurewrath | you're from the nederlands, you should know all about it Industrial ;) |
| 20:42.33 | Azurewrath | Jens: ZG exalted.. been in there for like 3453634 times.. no drop. |
| 20:42.50 | usz | pb_ee1, import is broken, you might need to add dot ( . ) at the begginging of note so import gets accepted |
| 20:42.52 | Jens | It has dropped a bunch of times for me. I always lose. |
| 20:43.04 | Jens | And for some extremely retarded reason, we aren't using DKP for ZG. |
| 20:43.13 | snurre | dkp sucks |
| 20:43.17 | leech2k | lol dkp for zg |
| 20:43.21 | eternally777 | DKP for ZG? LoL |
| 20:43.29 | usz | dkp is fine, but use instance bound DKP ^^ |
| 20:43.37 | Jens | DKP makes fucking sure I don't lose roll on Touch of Chaos to our warlock noob :/ |
| 20:43.39 | leech2k | might as well use dkp for ubrs if ur gonna do that |
| 20:43.50 | pb_ee1 | usz: Thanks :) And is it the same thing on the wowace repository? |
| 20:43.58 | sylvanaar | or that you never ever get it |
| 20:44.10 | usz | pb_ee1, yea, i got same problem myself yesterday |
| 20:44.25 | Jens | At least I could actively work towards getting it, rather than rolling a dice. |
| 20:44.34 | pb_ee1 | usz: Thanks hehe ;-) |
| 20:44.34 | sylvanaar | maybe |
| 20:44.35 | Jens | Like I did for Benediction. |
| 20:44.36 | usz | pb_ee1, just remember to use dot only for import, later on you MUST use normal comment format |
| 20:44.59 | pb_ee1 | usz: Ok, I will remember that for updates |
| 20:45.02 | sylvanaar | it depends on how many people are ahead of you and how many times it drops |
| 20:45.16 | sylvanaar | its a crap shoot either way |
| 20:45.29 | Jens | But I can make sure that when it drops, it's mine. |
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| 20:45.45 | Jens | (somewhat) |
| 20:46.19 | Jens | It just annoys me to no end, that some silly warlock that just joined the guild gets it, while I've been raiding with this guild for over a year. |
| 20:46.24 | pb_ee1 | It's working, thanks ;) |
| 20:46.41 | leech2k | its just junk that will be replaced soon by something better if u get it great if not u still have something to work for |
| 20:46.53 | leech2k | wow is about endless unatainable goals |
| 20:46.55 | Jens | Good wands aren't plentiful. |
| 20:47.11 | Jens | leech2k: It's also about guilds with retarded loot distribution. |
| 20:47.52 | leech2k | Jens: People worry to much about loot. Loot drama makes the game not fun imo. |
| 20:48.17 | usz | zzz we wipe like shit on Gothik atm, any tips? ^^ |
| 20:48.23 | Jens | I agree 100%. |
| 20:48.27 | leech2k | Gothik is hard. |
| 20:48.36 | leech2k | Get 7 priests and a bunch of mages :-) |
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| 20:48.53 | usz | we kill Thadd and Loatheb from first go and kill PW with 12 healers but this is total shit |
| 20:49.00 | Amadeo | All I know is I'm very happy for all of the changes in the expansion :) |
| 20:49.02 | Jens | But why raid if not for the loot (especially ZG), so fair distribution has to be considered. |
| 20:49.04 | sylvanaar | yeah, conversely - joining a guild where people have 1000dkp you can have 0 chances |
| 20:49.24 | Amadeo | DKP sucks |
| 20:49.27 | leech2k | pw with 12 healers? wow |
| 20:49.40 | Amadeo | unless you have hours and hours of time and have been with the guild from the beginning, you just get the scraps nobody wants |
| 20:49.43 | Kala|Sleep | I agree. DKP isn't any good in more forms |
| 20:49.46 | Jens | Amadeo: It sucks less than /roll. Pick your poison. |
| 20:49.52 | sylvanaar | why would anyone want to go knowing they cant get anything while you can |
| 20:50.12 | leech2k | usz: Do you guys use world buffs for loatheb? |
| 20:50.12 | Kala|Sleep | Jens: I've some of the best gear in my DKP-based guild and I've never obtained anything via DKP. |
| 20:50.14 | Amadeo | Jens: I think /roll with other rules is more fair |
| 20:50.27 | Jens | To earn DKP, so that when I spend mine, they can spend theirs. It's worked great for us ever since we started MC. |
| 20:50.46 | Amadeo | Whoever is on a raid should have a chance at the loot that drops on that raid |
| 20:50.54 | Amadeo | That's how I see it |
| 20:50.56 | sylvanaar | just watch - you will end up with people with more dkp than they can spend |
| 20:51.12 | leech2k | I have more dkp than I can spend atm. |
| 20:51.19 | Jens | But if I have raided ZG say, 100 times and someone joins for the first time and gets kitted with epics... |
| 20:51.38 | Amadeo | Jens: That wouldn't be a concern if you had been on the /roll system the whole time |
| 20:51.45 | Amadeo | You wouldn't have been working to earn DKP, you would have had items already |
| 20:51.55 | weab | you are wrong |
| 20:52.05 | weab | roll only works in theory |
| 20:52.06 | leech2k | Amadeo: You are definitely wrong. |
| 20:52.07 | Jens | /roll system? |
| 20:52.08 | weab | in practice it does not |
| 20:52.21 | Amadeo | I'm sorry, but /roll was around long before DKP was and it worked fine in other MMOGs :) |
| 20:52.32 | sylvanaar | its a slot machine - do you get mad if your walk away from a slot machine and someone puts a dollar in and hits the jackpot? |
| 20:52.33 | Jens | That's an invalid argument. |
| 20:52.40 | Amadeo | DKP is flawed more than the random system is |
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| 20:52.53 | Kalamadi | Let me put it this way. |
| 20:52.55 | kergoth | depends on the dkp system in use |
| 20:52.57 | weab | there are a lot of point systems |
| 20:53.00 | Jens | I don't agree. With DKP you get awarded for putting in effort. |
| 20:53.04 | weab | some are very flawed |
| 20:53.08 | weab | some suck huge balls |
| 20:53.10 | sylvanaar | DKP + token system = very flawes |
| 20:53.10 | leech2k | Amadeo: /roll is random and in a random system there is a possibility of a person NEVER winning. How is that fair? |
| 20:53.10 | weab | some are pretty good |
| 20:53.12 | Kalamadi | You're in the original core team, and get tonnes of bonus DKP due to "first kills" |
| 20:53.13 | Jens | We use zero sum. |
| 20:53.17 | weab | everything has flaws though |
| 20:53.33 | Kalamadi | You put the instance on farm and new people come along. What's their chance of getting gear now that everyone's bulked up on bonuses? |
| 20:53.42 | Amadeo | leech2k: Because it's not purely /random...it's /random, and then if you win an item on that raid..there are rules for your allowance on the rest of that raid and future raids |
| 20:53.47 | usz | We use Instance Bound, 0 sum, with fixed prices, lowered prices on resistance gear |
| 20:53.50 | Amadeo | it's not just a pure /roll system |
| 20:53.51 | usz | works like charm |
| 20:54.16 | Kalamadi | usz: Agreed. I'm in a flat DKP system where you bid on items. I have 600 DKP while others have 2200+ |
| 20:54.20 | sylvanaar | ha, instance bound - is totally different |
| 20:54.30 | Xuerian | We use the same as usz, and it works very well. Anyone who has excess points, has no use for them, they already have all the gear they need there. |
| 20:54.31 | Kalamadi | I haven't gotten a thing, and the 2200+ people have most of their T2 |
| 20:54.39 | leech2k | Amadeo: That still does not guarantee a single item. |
| 20:55.00 | Amadeo | leech2k: Think of the amount you've raided the same instances over and over |
| 20:55.01 | sylvanaar | we have people with 1000dkp they earned in MC, using it to get tier3 for 60dkp |
| 20:55.07 | Kalamadi | leech2k: It's two-sided. In DKP, you can be guaranteed NOT to get anything |
| 20:55.08 | Amadeo | You'd get your items, trust me |
| 20:55.16 | Amadeo | I got my items in every MMOG before WoW |
| 20:55.19 | Amadeo | when DKP didn't exist |
| 20:55.22 | weab | really though, if all you care about is loot and items, no system will satisfy you |
| 20:55.30 | Xuerian | qft. |
| 20:55.41 | weab | and if it does, something's wrong |
| 20:55.46 | usz | brb next wipe... umm try |
| 20:55.50 | weab | you're probably a corrupt leader ;p |
| 20:55.59 | Amadeo | The people who love DKP are the people who have all the time in the world to play video games |
| 20:56.12 | Kalamadi | Amadeo: Like me! Though I hate DKP. |
| 20:56.13 | Jens | That's just flat out wrong. |
| 20:56.17 | sylvanaar | dkp was meant to be a bid system |
| 20:56.34 | Kalamadi | DKP was meant to DISTRIBUTE LOOT EVENLY. |
| 20:56.34 | leech2k | Amadeo: Do you not think people who play more deserve more? |
| 20:56.34 | sylvanaar | any other form causes infmation |
| 20:56.43 | sylvanaar | *inflation |
| 20:56.46 | Kalamadi | Not to be a powerful priority engine |
| 20:56.48 | weab | leech2k: he's going to tell you they attend more raids so have more chances to roll |
| 20:57.00 | Amadeo | leech2k: I don't, I think that each time you raid and complete something it should be treated as then and now, not someone rewarded for raiding some other instance two years ago |
| 20:57.21 | Xuerian | Amadeo: There's a simple solution to that. Use instance-locked dkp :) |
| 20:57.32 | Jens | Fuckers even deleted my DKP while I was gone... |
| 20:57.40 | Kalamadi | Agreed, Xuerian |
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| 20:57.56 | Kalamadi | Most of the BWL DKP inflation in my guild is due to people transferring 1k+ DKP from MC |
| 20:57.59 | Amadeo | even so, there aren't unlimited instances...if your guild raids that much, you're guaranteed to get your loot in time |
| 20:58.24 | sylvanaar | not when you add in the token system |
| 20:58.25 | Xuerian | Amadeo: In that case there's no point in arguing. Really, no point, because it comes down to preference and circumstance |
| 20:58.45 | leech2k | Amadeo: Not at all true. Example: Touch of Chaos I and the rest of my guild has long been exaltedin ZG |
| 20:58.55 | Amadeo | Well the point is that, with the DKP system, your guild is likely to move on to a new instance before a newcomer gets their loot |
| 20:59.02 | leech2k | Amadeo: So we quit running it. only saw 3 drop lost them all |
| 20:59.03 | Amadeo | unless you're already at the top |
| 20:59.12 | Xuerian | Amadeo: That's damn straight |
| 20:59.26 | Amadeo | Xuerian: That's not flawed to you? |
| 20:59.26 | Azurewrath | Amadeo: The Problem is.. it's not the same work or effort to put in if you are just farming encounters you never learned from ground up.. or if you invest massive repcosts, pots and time to learn a boss.. |
| 20:59.29 | leech2k | We give all our bwl loot for pretty much free to the new guys. |
| 20:59.40 | leech2k | BWL = free gold and loot for noobs |
| 20:59.56 | leech2k | everything in their minus a few items goes min bid or de |
| 20:59.59 | usz | Well I am in semi hardcore guild, atm we clear 11 naxx bosses, Aq and sometimes bwl each reset, I must say we use 0sum as anit-causual system so it benefits most hardcore players, till now it works like charm and noone whines about system even casuals |
| 21:00.19 | Amadeo | The problem is you guys are taking my preference on the /roll system all wrong, I said that it's /roll with other rules, but you guys are assuming it's just pure /roll :P |
| 21:00.36 | sylvanaar | i joined my guild with full tier 2 - i spend just as much time in naxx as the rest of em - but am not going to see tier3 before TBC |
| 21:00.39 | ag` | ckknight_: spare a minute now? |
| 21:00.42 | Amadeo | If there is a person who has the faction for an item, then a person without it wouldn't be allowed to roll |
| 21:01.20 | leech2k | And how do you check that. |
| 21:01.26 | Kalamadi | sylvanaar: I joined my BWL-attempting guild with all of my ZG and MC gear out of the way and I won't be getting anything until after expansion |
| 21:01.28 | Amadeo | Know your members |
| 21:01.31 | Amadeo | Don't mass invite |
| 21:02.18 | Amadeo | But Xuerian is right in a sense, there's no point of arguing it...because TBC ends it all, and I'm very happy for it :) |
| 21:02.20 | leech2k | I joined an 11 boss nax guild with full tier 2 about 2 months ago. I am like #5 on dkp standings and have my choice of about anything now. |
| 21:02.32 | sylvanaar | yeah - i see your point - but dont forget - they cant progress without the newer members |
| 21:02.49 | sylvanaar | they arent carrying them |
| 21:02.57 | weab | tbc ends what? |
| 21:03.00 | leech2k | How does TBC end the loot system debate? |
| 21:03.26 | sylvanaar | it doesnt - it causes guild rearrangement |
| 21:03.42 | Kalamadi | leech2k: Those damn druids and priests will stop taking all my +healing and start bidding on SPI, that's wht. |
| 21:03.44 | Kalamadi | What, too |
| 21:03.45 | Amadeo | It's much harder to get 40 random people to work together than it is to organize and lead 25 |
| 21:04.00 | Amadeo | I guarantee you'll see many more end-game 25 man pickup raids in TBC |
| 21:04.10 | leech2k | Kalamadi: Wow, lol, never heard anyone complain about a priest taking +heal. |
| 21:04.12 | Amadeo | that's a good thing |
| 21:04.26 | weab | i don't see how that relates ;p |
| 21:04.42 | Amadeo | DKP is earned in a guild setting |
| 21:04.43 | weab | although i wholeheartedly agree the drop to 25 was a good move |
| 21:04.47 | Kalamadi | leech2k: *all* the non-class +heal goes to druids and priests, and then they go OOM because they have zilch regeneration |
| 21:04.50 | Amadeo | if it's a random raid, it's not going to be DKP |
| 21:05.14 | Amadeo | brb |
| 21:05.19 | weab | oh, do you actually believe the pickup raids are going to get somewhere? |
| 21:05.30 | weab | eventually, of course, but not for some time |
| 21:05.31 | leech2k | Kalamadi: Your an angry hybrid? |
| 21:05.33 | DrDre | ubrs worked in the past did it not? lol |
| 21:05.43 | Kalamadi | leech2k: More or less. |
| 21:05.43 | DrDre | and pug zg/aq's happen |
| 21:05.54 | Kalamadi | I've pugged all of MC successfully twice |
| 21:05.55 | sylvanaar | they do - i go on them |
| 21:06.02 | sylvanaar | mc too |
| 21:06.09 | weab | mc is a cakewalk these days |
| 21:06.15 | leech2k | Kalamadi: Spirit gear sucks for anyone really. But a well rounded set of gear is probaly best. Meaning usually the class sets :-) |
| 21:06.20 | sylvanaar | through domo |
| 21:06.21 | weab | you didn't see successful mc pickup raids at release |
| 21:06.30 | sylvanaar | pugs have troble there |
| 21:06.51 | Plorkyeran | The original MC raids on my server were basically pickups |
| 21:07.06 | usz | our guild alts are making MC pugs amd onyxia pugs and there is alot of alt greed drama which screws all the fun |
| 21:07.13 | Kalamadi | leech2k: SPI is an excellent stat for both priests and druids if they're thinking correctly. This fact is reinforced by the healing spell coefficient change and the bonuses on the priest/druid sets |
| 21:08.37 | weab | on my server i couldn't even trust a pickup ubrs to succeed when they lowered it to 10 people cap |
| 21:08.49 | weab | i can't imagine taking them to a real raid |
| 21:08.51 | leech2k | Kalamadi: On the average boss fight it takes a priest with meditation and 3 priece trans about 11 spirt to eqal 2 mp5 sprit sucks |
| 21:09.12 | Kalamadi | leech2k: That you're pointing this out means that you don't know what you're talking about. |
| 21:09.20 | Plorkyeran | A lot of that is because a lot more of the competant people aren't doing ubrs any more |
| 21:09.33 | sylvanaar | thats wierd - in my zg/aq alt raids - everyone knows the rules, round robin on trash, and need/use random then greed random on bosses |
| 21:10.10 | Plorkyeran | If you're spending 100% of the time under the 5SR, you're a terrible priest |
| 21:10.13 | weab | i don't see why the ratio of competent people should change all that significantly |
| 21:10.23 | Plorkyeran | And if you aren't, it takes a lot less than 11 spirit to equal 2 mp5 |
| 21:10.26 | leech2k | Plorkyeran: been to patchwork? |
| 21:10.32 | Plorkyeran | Yes |
| 21:10.36 | Plorkyeran | That's one fight |
| 21:10.43 | Plorkyeran | And mana isn't really a problem on it anyways |
| 21:11.16 | sylvanaar | spi vs mp5 is moot point since the value fluctuates you need both |
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| 21:11.39 | leech2k | It is not a moot point when it comes to choosing gear. |
| 21:11.51 | Plorkyeran | weab> If you assume competent people increase the chance of a raid succeeding, then the better a player is, the faster they'll get all of the items they need from an instance |
| 21:12.16 | weab | that sounds like flawed logic to me |
| 21:12.17 | Plorkyeran | And as a result, the older the server, the higher the proportion of players that still need to do 5-man stuff that are bad |
| 21:13.37 | Plorkyeran | It probably is flawed logic |
| 21:13.38 | sylvanaar | alts? |
| 21:13.38 | weab | newer players |
| 21:13.38 | weab | i seriously doubt people needing 5 man stuff nowdays have been playing as long or often as the people that don't |
| 21:14.32 | weab | now, you could make the argument they are less competent because they're less experienced |
| 21:14.35 | Plorkyeran | You have a mix of new players (which may or may not be bad) and bad older players, compared to just new players |
| 21:14.47 | Kalamadi | weab: I know a lot of "experienced" players who suck. |
| 21:14.53 | weab | i know |
| 21:15.02 | weab | that's why i'd tend to not assess it that way |
| 21:15.27 | weab | and say there isn't necessarily a higher ratio of competency in newer players as opposed to older ones |
| 21:16.01 | sylvanaar | some people can play for a year and still be a total noob |
| 21:16.10 | weab | yes, very much true |
| 21:16.11 | leech2k | Even if you only spend 50% of time in FSR 2mp/5 is still 5 spirit spirit gear sucks when there is so much good mp5 gear available |
| 21:16.29 | Kalamadi | leech2k: It doesn't work that way. |
| 21:16.39 | sylvanaar | leech: i will argue that point till i die |
| 21:16.43 | Plorkyeran | 2 mp5 costs the same amount in the itemization budget as 5 spirit... |
| 21:17.01 | Kalamadi | Having good spirit allows for successful healing rotation |
| 21:17.17 | leech2k | I do beleive you should be rounded in both spirit and mp5. But if you have a choice between mp5 or spirt on a certain slot go mp5. |
| 21:17.24 | sylvanaar | its purely based on the fight and your style of healing |
| 21:17.28 | FISKER_Q | c'thun is fun |
| 21:17.38 | Plorkyeran | I choose the one that gives me more mana, rather than just blindly going with one :P |
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| 21:18.04 | sylvanaar | i just Fubared FSRT by the way |
| 21:18.04 | FISKER_Q | "Hey let's do a real try on C'Thun" |
| 21:18.13 | FISKER_Q | "C'thun eyebeam hits you for 7204824" |
| 21:18.14 | leech2k | Kalamadi: Haven't used a healing rotation since I was first in MC :-) |
| 21:18.15 | FISKER_Q | or something like that :P |
| 21:18.16 | usz | FISKER_Q, idd, CThun is best fight ingame besids Thaddoius |
| 21:18.30 | usz | Thaddious* |
| 21:18.38 | sylvanaar | 'the game CAN count that high' |
| 21:18.39 | leech2k | Heigan nice too |
| 21:18.40 | Plorkyeran | Yeah, I think Golemagg was the last fight we ever used a rotation on |
| 21:18.43 | usz | ow and Heigan is fun aswell |
| 21:18.56 | FISKER_Q | got him to 95%!1 |
| 21:19.01 | FISKER_Q | i think we were like 5 |
| 21:19.09 | Plorkyeran | Heigan is good for seeing who really can't follow a basic pattern |
| 21:19.11 | sylvanaar | lets not forget innervate too |
| 21:19.25 | leech2k | Kalamadi: With the amount of mp5 available healing rotations are not really needed any more. |
| 21:19.52 | weab | i never saw a compelling need for healing rotations ever |
| 21:19.53 | Kalamadi | ... |
| 21:20.00 | Plorkyeran | They've never actually been useful in WoW |
| 21:20.07 | Tain | You didn't play EverQuest, did you weab? |
| 21:20.11 | weab | i did |
| 21:20.13 | Amadeo | EQ! Woohoo |
| 21:20.14 | sylvanaar | why though? are you still downranking? |
| 21:20.17 | pastamancer | gogo CH chain |
| 21:20.23 | weab | that's why i never saw a compelling need for them in wow |
| 21:20.31 | weab | because they were 100% necessary in eq |
| 21:20.42 | weab | they always seemed fairly pointless in wow though |
| 21:20.43 | Tain | That's because Blizzard tried to make the game dynamic so that you couldn't use the same sort of healing chains. |
| 21:20.46 | weab | my guild never used them |
| 21:20.56 | Tain | They didn't fully succeed, but at least they're not required. |
| 21:21.02 | pastamancer | when you first hit golemagg and are still wearing mostly blues, they're useful |
| 21:21.08 | leech2k | I have never downranked. Just fizzle my casts to prevent overheal. |
| 21:21.11 | weab | we didnt use em |
| 21:21.22 | Tain | Downranking is just invaluable. |
| 21:21.24 | Plorkyeran | Uh, the point of downranking isn't to reduce overhealing |
| 21:21.36 | sylvanaar | you use heal+strafe/cancel to manange spirit regen |
| 21:21.36 | Plorkyeran | It's to make your spells ridiculously more mana efficient |
| 21:21.41 | leech2k | No its to conserve mana. |
| 21:21.57 | sylvanaar | its both |
| 21:22.04 | leech2k | But lowers your hps |
| 21:22.11 | Tain | It's a floor wax! It's a dessert topping! |
| 21:22.16 | leech2k | Just use the esc key to fizzle your heal more safer. |
| 21:22.28 | leech2k | And you get to touch the fsr that way. |
| 21:22.31 | Plorkyeran | If I'm using Heal2 with 50% overhealing it's still more efficient than the max rank :P |
| 21:22.33 | Tain | That's two different things. |
| 21:22.33 | sylvanaar | or spellstopcasting |
| 21:22.37 | Plorkyeran | (with no overhealing) |
| 21:22.56 | Tain | Really a top notch healer is going to both downrank and know when to cancel a heal. |
| 21:23.28 | leech2k | I really don't see the point of down ranking. Because what if they take a hard hit when you are in the middle of a down ranked heal? |
| 21:23.49 | Plorkyeran | Then you have a bunch of heals land, and they go to full |
| 21:23.51 | weab | hopefully you arent the only one healing |
| 21:24.05 | leech2k | Hopfully... |
| 21:25.37 | leech2k | ^e |
| 21:25.37 | eternally777 | leech2k: If you dont down rank, you'll be out of mana in no time. |
| 21:25.37 | pastamancer | I use Heal2 to keep people topped off. 1k+ heal for ~150mana can't be beat |
| 21:25.37 | Tain | The reality is though most fights don't have people running out of mana anyway. |
| 21:25.37 | leech2k | eternally777: Never had much of problem with being out of mana. Just get good at canceling spells. |
| 21:25.37 | Tain | It only comes into play in a few situations where you really have to have that mana stretch, but you should do it always so that you're good at it and do it well when it counts. |
| 21:25.37 | sylvanaar | thats where style comes into play, you can precast a 2.5-3s heal and cancel if they havent lost hp, they begin again |
| 21:25.54 | Tain | Really you get by fine with "adequate" healers 95% of the time, or more. |
| 21:26.26 | Tain | The same with any other class, really. |
| 21:26.34 | sylvanaar | true |
| 21:27.21 | Tain | For most fights if you have a top tank holding aggro almost the rest of the guild can just be average. |
| 21:27.34 | hugo | Overlord work for all ace2 addons ? |
| 21:27.40 | Plorkyeran | Of course, getting by often involves a bunch of extra wipes that aren't caused by anything obvious |
| 21:27.43 | hugo | or for any addons |
| 21:27.43 | sylvanaar | yep, its why i like 20-25 mans |
| 21:27.45 | Tain | You don't want to aim for that of course, but more often than not you don't have a whole raid full of people on the ball. |
| 21:28.00 | leech2k | Tain: yep a good tank makes a big difference |
| 21:28.09 | AKX | local compost=AceLibrary("Compost-2.0") |
| 21:28.10 | AKX | members=compost:Acquire() |
| 21:28.13 | AKX | Correct? |
| 21:28.29 | usz | make members local aswell and its fine :) |
| 21:28.34 | AKX | It is local |
| 21:28.47 | weab | warriors who are above average make the biggest difference of any other class |
| 21:29.03 | weab | and bad warriors bring a raid down harder than any other class |
| 21:29.15 | sylvanaar | chicken->egg->chicken |
| 21:29.19 | leech2k | lol |
| 21:29.23 | usz | my main is warrior <3 |
| 21:29.37 | usz | i am usually prot, but i respec almost every week for Loatheb |
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| 21:29.56 | sylvanaar | tank, heal, dps - any one thats lacking will screw you |
| 21:29.59 | weab | it's also retardedly hard to find good warriors |
| 21:30.04 | usz | warriors dps in general > rogue dps |
| 21:30.05 | leech2k | I did fd strat last night with our mt. I renew him probaly 3 times during the entire run and that was all the healing he needed. |
| 21:30.09 | weab | most are pitiful |
| 21:30.21 | leech2k | Good/geared warriors make a difference |
| 21:30.41 | sylvanaar | if you are using dps warriors then its good healers that make or break |
| 21:30.50 | usz | good geared warrior = ownage dps, no other class can match (if you split ignite dps among fire mages) |
| 21:31.25 | leech2k | usz: I think that really depends on the fight though. |
| 21:31.26 | Tain | A top dps warrior is all well and good but doesn't help anyone without any means of reducing threat. |
| 21:31.53 | Plorkyeran | There's just enough fights where threat isn't a problem to make rogues whine about them |
| 21:31.54 | leech2k | Some of fights the fury warriors are up top, others it the mages, and some rogues. |
| 21:32.03 | usz | leech2k, naa its like almost every fight |
| 21:32.11 | sylvanaar | are you in BWL |
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| 21:32.18 | Tain | I hope not. |
| 21:32.29 | leech2k | usz: yeah I dont watch damage meters enough |
| 21:32.32 | Tain | If Warriors are topping DPS in BWL that's one sad guild. |
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| 21:32.57 | Tain | OR I should say sad "other" DPS classes, I'm sure the guild is happy with winning no matter what. |
| 21:33.01 | usz | Tain, we are AQ40 farming, 11 naxx bosses guild |
| 21:33.06 | leech2k | I <3 looking at dps #s on thaddius though its crazy. |
| 21:33.11 | sylvanaar | it should be rogues/warriors on top in bwl yeah |
| 21:33.35 | Tain | That's the problem, Rogue weapons don't scale with Warrior weapons in Naxx. |
| 21:33.56 | usz | idd, warriors is best scaling class |
| 21:33.57 | leech2k | mages are usually on top for us at loatheb they dont have to run as much :-) |
| 21:34.09 | usz | leech2k, ofc they are |
| 21:34.16 | usz | i said to split ignite DPS ^^ |
| 21:34.38 | Plorkyeran | But then you don't have the top mage doing twice as much damage as #2 :P |
| 21:34.50 | sylvanaar | yeah thats the 1000dkp guy |
| 21:35.04 | usz | leech2k, any tips for Gothik? ^^ |
| 21:35.23 | leech2k | usz: other than atleast 7 priests not really |
| 21:35.23 | Tain | I'll probably never raid on my Mage again. I hated it. |
| 21:35.45 | Plorkyeran | Bring lots of priests, CC what you can, kill the rest, then kill him? |
| 21:35.53 | Plorkyeran | The strat isn't very complicated :P |
| 21:36.01 | sylvanaar | i hated my warlock - quit him in feb after i got full tier 2 |
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| 21:39.37 | leech2k | We give all the priests and mages 1 cc job. To keep it simple. Then they do what they can between. As a priest it is pretty much shackle-flash heal-shackle-flash heal..... |
| 21:39.37 | sylvanaar | did you all down c'thun or skip |
| 21:39.37 | Plorkyeran | Why would you skip him? |
| 21:39.37 | leech2k | We skipped c'thun for first month or so naxx came out then went back and downed him |
| 21:39.37 | Plorkyeran | One of the msot fun bosses in the game and better loot than the stuff you'd be killing instead in Naxx |
| 21:39.47 | usz | leech2k, i am slowly getting frustrated here and i need this boss down fast so i can get back to coding usefull libs :D |
| 21:39.52 | leech2k | ya c'thun is definite the most fun pre nax boss I think |
| 21:40.05 | sylvanaar | yeah - cause naxx came out - my guild skipped him |
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| 21:40.57 | usz | c'thun is harder than many naxx bosses |
| 21:40.59 | sylvanaar | now we are trying to down him.....2% in statge 2 |
| 21:41.00 | leech2k | usz: gothik is a hard fight, but will get easy quick I think once every knows what they are suppose to do really well and as the raids dps increases |
| 21:41.34 | leech2k | usz: I don't know any guild that downed gothik without atleast 2 full riad nights of attempts |
| 21:41.42 | usz | well in general we got dps, on cthun we get 100-40% on first weaken usually, but seems like many ppl suck at cc ^^ |
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| 21:41.48 | CIA-17 | * Retrieve spell averages from new spell table entry (ref: EPMeter r15122) to avoid Tablet flipping out on each update |
| 21:42.11 | sylvanaar | well cthun has not that many HP in stage 2 |
| 21:42.23 | leech2k | usz: I guess it more about getting dps to focus quickly on the correct targets more than total dps. |
| 21:42.30 | usz | still he is good way of measuring dps increase in raid ^^ |
| 21:42.31 | CIA-17 | 03devla * r15124 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.toc: |
| 21:42.31 | CIA-17 | FuBar_GuildFu: |
| 21:42.31 | CIA-17 | Its DewdropLib, not DrewdropLib |
| 21:42.32 | Plorkyeran | Have your priests 3-man the ghoul packs to pratice shackling :P |
| 21:42.46 | leech2k | usz: And for the first 30 seconds or so of the fight even the priests can help nuke stuff because there really isnt any healing to do |
| 21:43.54 | leech2k | I mean, I don't know about guys, but stage 1 nef use to seem so hard, but now we wait for each mob to spawn. |
| 21:44.43 | usz | ow well, one more day full of gothik wipes... why does he have to be so much harder than Thadd and Loa :( |
| 21:44.51 | sylvanaar | haha, yeah. we also say that twin emps is easy mode |
| 21:45.07 | leech2k | Its loatheb I really hate. Stupid shadow pot farming. |
| 21:45.27 | Plorkyeran | Meh, I just spend 15g a week at the AH |
| 21:45.47 | leech2k | they are like 33g a stack on kil'jaeden alliance |
| 21:45.48 | sylvanaar | wow, i spend more like 50 |
| 21:46.21 | leech2k | We have 9 naxx guild just on alliance though |
| 21:46.44 | sylvanaar | my server had lag issues and all the top end guilds xfered |
| 21:47.03 | Plorkyeran | We have pretty close to that number, but we never had more than one guild working on Loatheb at a time |
| 21:47.09 | usz | leech2k, we are FSK guild... our server is retarded ^^ |
| 21:47.13 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LhGL0hbZVVzVTxoVo |
| 21:47.14 | Industrial | hows that? |
| 21:47.32 | leech2k | Yeah, we had massive lag issues and like 1 or 2 guilds transferred. We had to do thaddius a 2am because of lag |
| 21:47.41 | leech2k | utnil they upgraded hardware now its perfect all the time |
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| 21:47.55 | Kalamadi | Industrial: For? Warrior raid DPS? |
| 21:47.55 | sylvanaar | our server is a ghost town |
| 21:47.59 | Industrial | pvp |
| 21:48.09 | Plorkyeran | Razorgore at 8AM on Sunday :P |
| 21:48.30 | Plorkyeran | Half the guild threatened to quit if that was ever scheduled again |
| 21:48.43 | leech2k | ouch |
| 21:48.57 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r15125 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Nudge commit, adjusted positioning to prevent overlapping borders. Zip properly! |
| 21:49.01 | leech2k | sylvanaar: Good thing about ghost town servers. EASY GM! |
| 21:49.36 | omega__ | sylvanaar: the timers where fine :) |
| 21:49.57 | omega__ | sylvanaar: just the web throwing was when the web was like "firm", not when you get thrown up |
| 21:50.04 | omega__ | and we downed the boss, for the first time :) |
| 21:50.07 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=phGb0bZVVuzxxzV |
| 21:50.11 | Industrial | Thats what I am now |
| 21:50.19 | Industrial | thinking of respec cause I dont like a few things |
| 21:50.25 | Industrial | 15g :> |
| 21:50.35 | leech2k | I can't wait for the xpansion so I can respec shadow |
| 21:51.39 | leech2k | its been to long |
| 21:52.13 | Industrial | <BILL COSBY ATE YO KIDS> |
| 21:52.16 | usz | heh i spec fury from time to time as i would have gone crazy being prot constantly |
| 21:52.36 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: you here? |
| 21:52.39 | Industrial | ins tthat like really expensive? |
| 21:52.40 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:52.41 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: somewhat |
| 21:52.47 | leech2k | usz: It is hard to be shadow in naxx with fights like patchwerk |
| 21:52.57 | Mi|es | >< |
| 21:53.11 | usz | leech2k, and its hard to be hybrid aswell :D |
| 21:53.22 | leech2k | <SAPPED GIRLS CAN'T SAY NO> |
| 21:53.29 | Mi|es | tainting problem is getting out of control... tracked down a PetActionBar disappearing problem to ImprovedErrorFrame... *WTF* |
| 21:53.32 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: the cthun dark glares timers are somewhat off, i can give you the real ones |
| 21:53.48 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: I noticed as well |
| 21:53.49 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: give me |
| 21:54.05 | sylvanaar | omega__: gratz! |
| 21:54.05 | usz | ah yea, CThun seems to be bugged, as the Giant Eye warning is wrong after Weaken |
| 21:54.20 | Funkeh` | timeP1GlareStart = 48 |
| 21:54.43 | Funkeh` | timeP1Glare = 86 |
| 21:54.54 | leech2k | hmm I would like to try cthun without any mods :-) |
| 21:54.55 | sylvanaar | you need everyone in your raid at a minimum bw version for cthun |
| 21:54.57 | Funkeh` | timeP1GlareDuration = 40 |
| 21:55.08 | Funkeh` | i think thats it |
| 21:56.25 | sylvanaar | thats 1 second off from the current |
| 21:56.56 | sylvanaar | or 2 for the duration |
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| 22:01.34 | sylvanaar | bigwigs having those numbers wrong will cause the wrong groups to be called out for reg glare - i have seen that happen |
| 22:02.54 | snurre | the giant eye/giant claw timers keep gettin reversed |
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| 22:06.52 | ag` | ckknight: |
| 22:06.57 | ckknight | busy |
| 22:07.01 | ag` | ok |
| 22:08.13 | sbu | wahaha :/ realm down for 36h |
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| 22:11.10 | Industrial | < leech2k> <SAPPED GIRLS CAN'T SAY NO> |
| 22:11.12 | Industrial | oh thats bad |
| 22:11.21 | ag` | Rolling with my nagaz |
| 22:11.26 | ag` | Sealcub Clubbing Club |
| 22:11.47 | ag` | Snakes on a Raid |
| 22:11.51 | Industrial | me so hordey |
| 22:12.05 | Amadeo | sapped girls can't say no is really played out now |
| 22:12.17 | Amadeo | it's as bad as "o rly" |
| 22:12.29 | AxiumKT_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.33 | Industrial | lol |
| 22:13.15 | Amadeo | I still like <Knights Who Say Ni Hao> |
| 22:13.42 | pb_ee1 | <Trade Goods Vendor> |
| 22:14.05 | pb_ee1 | My preferred ;p |
| 22:14.19 | snurre | <SAPPED GIRLS CANT SAY NO> is not allowed, sadly enough |
| 22:14.35 | snurre | rape reference, so can give you a 3 day vacation if youre the guild leader |
| 22:14.56 | Amadeo | I saw a guild called <Innkeeper> once |
| 22:14.58 | Amadeo | I liked it |
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| 22:15.57 | Amadeo | cool, Firefox 2 is finally officially released |
| 22:16.02 | vhaarr | I tried registering <Pie Vendor>, but it was already taken, so I registered <Banker>. |
| 22:16.21 | snurre | <..and two stealthed rogues> |
| 22:16.25 | snurre | one of the better ones |
| 22:16.25 | kergoth | Amadeo: if you're listening to slashdot, afaik its wrong |
| 22:16.32 | Amadeo | kergoth: www.mozilla.com |
| 22:16.40 | Amadeo | :) |
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| 22:16.52 | kergoth | good, guess slashdot was just early then |
| 22:17.00 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 22:17.04 | Amadeo | I saw that stuff yesterday |
| 22:17.09 | weab | it was on their ftp yesterday i think |
| 22:17.12 | Amadeo | then I just read it was being released today, so I checked it out |
| 22:17.21 | Amadeo | weab: Yeah, but the devs were pissed about that |
| 22:18.17 | weab | i decided i'd just wait for the auto updater to download it for me |
| 22:18.19 | CIA-17 | 03axium * r15126 10SpgTools/ (Core.lua SpgTools.toc locale-enUS.lua): SpgTools: Abstracted out some GUI creation code, added AceLocale-2.2 support |
| 22:18.34 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 22:18.45 | Amadeo | I'm probably going to download a third party optimized build of it |
| 22:19.11 | haste | <Cuddle Vendor> is superior |
| 22:19.21 | Amadeo | <Carebear Stare> ? |
| 22:19.36 | pastamancer | I have a few alts in <Filled with Pie> |
| 22:20.11 | snurre | lol, one of the install messages in firefox 2.0: "A Little Housekeeping" |
| 22:20.57 | Amadeo | I want mmoy's build for Windows |
| 22:21.04 | Amadeo | guess I'll have to wait on it |
| 22:22.08 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r15127 10FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_RegenFu/FuBar_Regen.lua: Fubar_RegenFu:tested and ready to be merged back to the trunk |
| 22:23.51 | Tain | Bah had to send my Xbox 360 in for repairs and the rep specifically told me to send my harddrive in with it because of the issues I was having. Will I get it back if the harddrive's ok? "Yes we'll make sure to send it back." |
| 22:24.02 | Tain | I got back someone else's harddrive with their Xbox profile on it. |
| 22:24.05 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: sorry alt tabbing, did you get those times? |
| 22:24.35 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: no |
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| 22:25.44 | Funkeh` | scroll up a little bit |
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| 22:28.42 | Amadeo | Tain: That's bullshit |
| 22:29.41 | sergio | Tain: they just swap everyone around and yours will be sent to someone else |
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| 22:29.52 | sergio | "for faster processing" |
| 22:30.12 | sergio | i think they even put a slip in the box explaining it like it's a good thing |
| 22:30.23 | AxiumKT_ | Is GuildRoster cached? it doesn't seem like GetGuildRosterInfo(idx) is always an up-to-date query. |
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| 22:33.13 | Galencia | is it possible to set up clique in such a way that it does different actions on left/right click depending on the frame? |
| 22:35.08 | Fudge | Galencia, I'm pretty sure you can. |
| 22:35.32 | kergoth | just check the value of Clique.unit |
| 22:35.54 | Fudge | I think there's an option or something in there to pick a frame and set the desired action for the clicks. |
| 22:35.56 | Amadeo | C.unit would have been funny |
| 22:36.12 | Galencia | i shall investigat further, thanks |
| 22:36.16 | Galencia | just wanted to know if it was possible |
| 22:36.23 | kergoth | Fudge: pretty sure by default it only has friendly and not, and dead |
| 22:36.35 | Fudge | kergoth, I know it has hostile, too. |
| 22:36.50 | Fudge | And 'player', I think. |
| 22:36.54 | kergoth | yes.. "friendly and not" |
| 22:37.33 | Fudge | Ah, missed that part. |
| 22:37.48 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15128 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFuLocals.koKR.lua: FuBar_GuildFu - update koKR |
| 22:37.49 | Fudge | How many more frames do you need customized clicking on? ;P |
| 22:38.23 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15129 10sRaidFrames/ (localization.enUS.lua localization.koKR.lua sRaidFrames.lua): sRaidFrames - update koKR |
| 22:41.48 | CIA-17 | 03axium * r15130 10SpgTools/Core.lua: SpgTools: Guild roster updates correctly now |
| 22:41.50 | CIA-17 | 03damjau * r15132 10Detox/Detox.lua: Detox - update koKR, fix korean spellname problem(Cleanse, Purge) |
| 22:41.50 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07PreFSR * r15131 10FuBar_RegenFu/: FuBar_RegenFu: tagging the pre-merge version |
| 22:43.27 | cladhaire | There's not an option to seperate things based on frame |
| 22:43.32 | cladhaire | you could write a plugin to do it quite easily |
| 22:43.38 | cladhaire | custom click-sets are eaasy to define. |
| 22:44.05 | cladhaire | (And incidentally will be easy to define in BC as well |
| 22:44.06 | Galencia | ah, damn. |
| 22:44.26 | Galencia | see i want to define things for my raid/party frames, but i dont want to override detaulf behaviour on target/self |
| 22:44.43 | cladhaire | what unit frames are we talking about? |
| 22:44.53 | Galencia | aguf |
| 22:45.06 | Galencia | and maybe sraidframes, maybe aguf raidframes.. havent decided yet |
| 22:45.51 | cladhaire | well you'd have to know that either way |
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| 22:46.00 | cladhaire | then you can modify your plugin |
| 22:47.46 | Galencia | is there some information somewhere i should be reading? :) |
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| 22:53.16 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar * r15133 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (5 files): FuBar_RegenFu:New ownership, and support for 5sr tracking. |
| 22:53.27 | eternally777 | Does GetNumRaidMembers() return 0 if you're only in a regular party? |
| 22:54.29 | Anomoly | yes |
| 22:57.39 | Baraius-phone | #wowace |
| 22:58.21 | CIA-17 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r15134 10FuBar_RegenFu/Fubar_FSRTrackerFu/: cleaning up part of my branch |
| 23:05.36 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r15135 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: BigWigs: C'thun: Correct glare timers, thanks Funkeh. |
| 23:07.23 | Kalamadi | Bleh |
| 23:07.33 | Kalamadi | We downed Nefarian last night on our second week |
| 23:07.44 | Kalamadi | And now we have to wait a full week before attempting AQ40 -_- |
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| 23:08.42 | manub | hi guys |
| 23:08.45 | manub | anyone experienced [2006/10/25 01:06:13-19]: sRaidFrames\localization.koKR.lua:153: unfinished string near `"???, ? |
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| 23:17.36 | Tem | damn you haste |
| 23:17.47 | Tem | Surfacelib needs to be an opt dep |
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| 23:26.52 | eternally777 | What happens if I hook a function and don't call the original function? |
| 23:27.00 | eternally777 | Will WoW get mad at me? |
| 23:27.16 | Plorkyeran | Depends on what function you hooked |
| 23:27.40 | eternally777 | :AddMessage() |
| 23:27.43 | eternally777 | to the chat frmaes |
| 23:27.45 | eternally777 | *frames |
| 23:27.49 | snurre | vhaarr: what causes bigwigs to sometimes invert the giant eye/giant claw timers in cthun phase2? |
| 23:28.12 | Plorkyeran | Not calling the original one will just make it not be called for that |
| 23:28.36 | eternally777 | So basically, it would just not show me the message |
| 23:28.39 | Plorkyeran | Actually, I can't think of any situation where not calling the original function would cause unintentional breakage |
| 23:28.40 | Plorkyeran | Yes |
| 23:28.58 | eternally777 | cool. |
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| 23:35.15 | eternally777 | There should be a line somewhere in MyDebug to prevent me from trying to view my addon's entire table. |
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| 23:56.37 | Tekkub | or you could use tekprober |
| 23:56.45 | Tekkub | eternally777 :P |
| 23:57.15 | eternally777 | Tekprober does the same thing? |
| 23:58.18 | Tekkub | it's for viewing tables |
| 23:59.26 | weab | tekprober. kinky |
