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00:01.48Ghentoh my god
00:02.19Xueriano.0
00:02.20Ghentthe girl that played Winnie in The Wonder Years is in Maxim
00:02.29Ghentlol gg
00:04.57Gngskoh my god
00:05.00Gngskwait, you already said that
00:05.03Gngskhot diggity dawg!
00:06.38Ghenthehe
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00:17.32XuerianOk, Kyu isn't cutting it. I need a event monitor >_<
00:19.24mjcWFM
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00:21.36mjcXuerian: kyubi WFM
00:24.26mjcXuerian: event monitors are srs bsns
00:25.04mjcXuerian: works for me, serious business
00:25.08mjc;P
00:25.35NeeblerOpinions are like firetrucks
00:25.38NeeblerEverybody likes pizza
00:25.51GhentI don't
00:26.01Ghentyou stereotyping bastard
00:26.05Xueriankyubi works, yes, but it's not practical from my perspective :P
00:26.35XuerianYou don't like pizza...?! BLASHPEMER
00:27.06Ghentlesson learned: if I cry, I get free pizza
00:28.23CairennI don't like pizza
00:28.36Ghentno one likes the kind of pizza I like
00:28.46Cairennat least, not tomato sauce based ones
00:28.50Zieglerbelgian?
00:28.50Ghentmmmm hawaiian pizza
00:28.56Ghentso tasty
00:29.10Nickenyfikenits possible to have >20 quests in TBC?
00:29.15Cairenn25
00:29.22Nickenyfikennice
00:29.22XuerianJust cheese pizza is good.
00:29.31Nickenyfikenall the way from lvl1?
00:29.43Ghentsadly, even though I love cheese, cheese is my least favorite part of the pizza
00:29.48Ghentwhich is bad since I live in chicago
00:29.57XuerianIt's bad if it's not done right =(
00:30.14Ziegleractually
00:30.17Zieglerthat should be great in chicago
00:30.24Ziegleryou get that crazy tomato sauce on the top stuff
00:30.35Ghentyeah but deep dish is like 1" of pizza
00:30.38Ghenter, cheese
00:30.40Ghentthen the sauce
00:32.58CIA-1703amethyst * r14056 10FuBar_TankPointsFu/ (FuBar_TankPointsFu.toc TankPointsFu.lua):
00:32.58CIA-17FuBar_TankPointsFu:
00:32.58CIA-17- Added single report ability
00:33.41GhentTankPoints...
00:33.46Ghenthrm
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00:36.08KalamadiGhent: So, wait. One inch of cheese? Sounds like trouble.
00:36.26XuerianHeart trouble, but so worth it. :3
00:36.51KalamadiI was thinking, like. Gastrointestinal.
00:37.16XuerianOh, you mean lavashits? Probably :p
00:37.23KalamadiNo.
00:37.30KalamadiCheese backs you up, man.
00:37.37mjc!toc tankpoints
00:37.40mjcer
00:37.40XuerianAlways had the opposite effect on me.
00:37.44mjc!topc fubar_tankpointsfu
00:37.47mjcadslkfg
00:37.53mjc!toc fubar_tankpointsfu
00:37.54Xuerian!toc FuBar_TankPointsFu
00:38.04Zieglerand you still get nothing
00:38.04mjcsvnbot not in here
00:38.10Xueriankek
00:38.19mjckek your face
00:38.25XuerianI am kekking my face
00:38.34Zieglernone the less
00:38.36Zieglerhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5452-TankPointsFu.html
00:38.37XuerianWhat else you expect me to laugh with, my ass?
00:38.38Xuerian:P
00:38.41Zieglerall the info you could ever desire
00:40.01mjcinteresting.
00:40.07mjcnot a tank so it's not terribly intereting
00:40.18mjchas 'hmm' value
00:40.50GhentKalamadi, welcome to Chicago-style Deep Dish pizza
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00:42.20kergothI was thinking about doing a generic points addon with weights for all the attributes and preset ones you can load for tank, healing, rogue AEP, etc
00:42.23kergothwonder if thatd be worth doing
00:42.56Zieglersounds like PointsFu was just born, with the Tank Module prewritten.
00:43.16Ziegleri'm not sure how much it would matter for healers though
00:43.32kergoththere is a healpoints addon
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00:47.23Ghentmjc, yeah, definite 'hrm' value
00:47.42That1SwedeAnyone know any nice 'buff icon and such' modification mods? ;P
00:47.56Ghent'and such'?
00:48.00Zieglerekbb?
00:50.20That1SwedeYeah... using ekbb right now.
00:53.32mjcebb.
00:53.53Funkeh`how can i set a background file to just be black
00:54.08mjc<PROTECTED>
00:54.25[FH]Birdemani0 0 0
00:54.35Funkeh`i mean what would the whole line be
00:54.46[FH]Birdemanithere is aline for background color
00:56.57XuerianSetBackdropColor(r, g, b, a), isn't it?
00:57.20Xuerian[FH]Birdemani: wowwiki.com/Widget_API is your best friend
00:57.33[FH]Birdemaniyea
01:00.34Funkeh`so for example mod:SetBackdropColor(1,1,1,1) ?
01:00.56CIA-1703mjc * r14059 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEventsEmbed.toc: SpecialEventsEmbed: wow, toc still said 11100
01:01.24Xuerianso for example frame:SetBackdropColor()
01:01.27Xuerian:p
01:02.18Funkeh`grr
01:02.47CIA-1703mjc * r14060 10CompostLib/CompostLib.toc: CompostLib: Toc said 11100
01:03.06Funkeh`why does it keep coming transparent :(
01:03.28Xuerian() sets it to nill, IE transparent. SetBackdropColor(0, 0, 0, 1) is black
01:03.40Xuerians/ill/il/
01:03.43Funkeh`it on 0001 ^^
01:03.56Funkeh`or is it
01:04.06mjc0,0,0,0 is transparent
01:04.41CIA-1703mjc * r14061 10DewdropLib/DewdropLib.toc: DewdropLib: toc update
01:05.09Funkeh`bored mjc?
01:05.16mjcFunkeh`: fixing libs
01:05.24Funkeh`^^
01:05.41Funkeh`recommit candybars if your bored its missing externals
01:06.16cladhairedon't recommit shit to force zips.
01:06.19CIA-1703mjc * r14062 10/branches/TekTechEmbed/TekTechEmbed.toc: TechTechEmbed: wow, 11000
01:08.34kb1ibthaving fun mjc?
01:08.47kb1ibtspamming us with toc changes?
01:09.20mjckb1ibt: well, I could check out the whole freaking trunk
01:09.24mjcbut I'm done anyways
01:09.33mjcXuerian: it can't hurt to have them up to date.
01:09.39kb1ibteh, just change them all to 20000
01:09.47Funkeh`lol
01:09.52mjccept they're not actaully compatible with 2.0 :P
01:09.57XuerianThat's the only change that -really- affects anyone :P
01:10.01Funkeh`cladhaire: ok, sorry :(
01:10.23cladhaire.tocs shoudln't hit 20000 until they're actually updated.
01:10.33kb1ibti know i was just joking
01:10.40cladhaire*nod* but peopel have suggested that =)
01:11.31cladhaireding 50!
01:11.39kb1ibtding 66
01:11.40mjcgrats
01:11.44mjcmy druid's workin on 47
01:12.38Funkeh`"GotUF:SetBackdropColor(0,0,0,1)" whats wrong with that? :O
01:12.39Xuerianis "GotUF" a frame with a backdrop set?
01:12.39Funkeh`yes
01:12.45XuerianPastey?
01:14.06mjckb1ibt: bastard
01:14.12kb1ibttalking about being a high lvl in beta there is a BE Palidin that is 64
01:14.39Funkeh`bah nvm, thanks anyway, im too tired, nn
01:16.35mjcIceroth: ping
01:17.49mjcis it reasonable for ace 1.3.1 to be 'out of date' ? or should I bump it
01:17.54mjcit does work in 1.12.x
01:17.55mjc:P
01:18.15XuerianIt's reasonable for it ALL to be out of date.
01:18.54XuerianSeeing as the Interface metadata indicates what the revision was when it was written, imo O-0
01:19.34mjchum
01:19.47mjcPT\FeedomaticPlugin.lua is unable to find AceAddon :p
01:20.05XuerianYou borked it!
01:20.25mjcwell, I'm loading libs the old way
01:20.35mjcbut the toc seems in order
01:21.07mjcoh
01:21.17mjcit uses ace 1.x
01:27.40Tem~seen tuler
01:27.56purli haven't seen 'tuler', Tem
01:27.56Tem~seen tuller
01:27.59purltuller <n=chatzill@c-68-57-185-39.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 5h 52m 57s ago, saying: 'so beta people, do enemy cast bars work in pvp?'.
01:29.44Tem~botmail for Tuller OmniCC is tainting things because of it's Cooldown_SetTimer hook and because of the values it sets on the buttons.  This is important in BC because it's causing the blizzard UI to be unable to do things like show the pet bar while in combat.  Find me (tem) and I'll send you a modified copy.
01:30.01Tem~botsnack
01:30.01purlTem: :)
01:30.40hastegive us a Lua 5.1 and WoW 2.0.0 PTR :(
01:37.06kb1ibthaste some people have wow 2.0.0 Closed Beta
01:37.15hasteYes, some
01:37.19hasteI don't care about content
01:37.20NeeblerI wonder how comprehensive the BC enemycastbar built-in addon will be. No doubt people will still be using user made ones like NECB and Antagonist over the default one. Just like SCT over the new builtin one
01:37.42NeeblerAt least the average joe non-addon user can compete with people who use those addons
01:37.54hasteI just don't want to drycode whole add ons from scratch for BC
01:38.02ggilbert_Neebler: it just shows you when your target is casting
01:38.07kb1ibtNeebler, it works ok...
01:38.18Neeblerhttp://www.discordmods.com/bcui10.jpg
01:38.18hastewhich is why I've stopped all major mod developing until I actually have a chance to test them myself
01:38.21kb1ibtit just doesn't give a count down til it will be cast
01:39.41kb1ibtthat pic shows once the spell has started to cast but what about instants of stuff like chromag where there isn't enough time to get out of the way
01:40.19TemNeebler, the blizzard one is so far superior to the addon version it's nuts
01:40.40Temit could use some visual help, but otherwise it's more accurate then an addon could *ever* be
01:41.22Temthe only 'drawback' I can see is that you only get spellcast events for units
01:41.37Neebler:O
01:41.52Temso you won't get a spell event for someone that no one in your raid is targeting
01:41.53kb1ibttem but what about fights like chromag where you need the extrat couple seconds to get out of the way? that's where the extra mods help
01:42.02Temkb1ibt, that's different
01:42.21Temkb1ibt, that's not a cast bar, that's knowing how often he casts the spell
01:42.35Neeblerviva la bigwigs
01:43.09kb1ibti thought we were comparing it to ECB which shows that information?
01:45.51[GsoZ]Bordeauxn8 all
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01:50.49Clashen+r?
01:51.31mjc+dumb
01:51.46Clashen:(
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02:12.49kb1ibthas dewdrop been fixed to stop it's incompatibility with WoW2.0.0?
02:21.53ruinnaso.. i've been working on integrating sliders into TabletLib. I've run into something I don't quite understand. Anyone familiar with Tab's guts?
02:22.25KalamadiSomewhat.
02:22.28WrK`ZZzGood night or what, at 4:30am
02:22.32ruinnathe issue: when i move mouse over one of the embedded sliders, the whole tablet hides itself
02:22.51ruinnais there some sort of event triggering on the slider frame which causes this?
02:25.14ruinnaanother way of asking this question: why doesn't the tablet frame hide when you mouse over any of the buttons? how is this action different from mousing over a slider?
02:25.37KalamadiCheck the API, make sure your code's sound
02:25.48ruinnaKalamadi: ;)
02:26.05KalamadiOtherwise, I don't know
02:26.24ruinnahow coud i force the Tablet to hide within tablet:Show() ?
02:26.47ruinnahow often is tablet:Show() called?
02:27.02ruinnawhat events cause the tablet to refresh its display?
02:27.14ruinnatoo many questions ;)
02:30.10JoshBorkenn all
02:30.27Xueriannighty
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02:49.33Triadiananyone alive in here ?
02:51.49kergothno
02:52.22Triadianfigured as much :(
02:52.49Triadianwondered where in the lua does onebag hook into the craft/skills frame and why ?
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02:55.58hasteah, nothing beats a good one hour of sleep
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03:04.51kb1ibtonebag shouldn't hook in there any where why Triadian
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03:08.49Ruach?
03:09.01RuachWhat the heck
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03:10.18haste=\
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03:12.33tekkubgod I love wally
03:12.41tekkubevery year I get new furry slippers
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03:12.46tekkubthis year's have claws
03:18.55mjchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk&eurl=
03:19.03mjclinux can do quite a lot.
03:21.16Triadiankb1 - well in BC - when i try and smelt it says onebag is doing something naughty - trying to find where its doing it - or what it is :(
03:21.51hastemjc: yeh, latest nvidia and beryl is fun
03:25.52CIA-1703cladhaire * r14063 10Clique/Clique.lua: Clique: Fixed the issue with click-casting switching targets.
03:28.12kb1ibtTriadian, not sure why or where but it might be that you have an old version cause mine doesn't give that error
03:28.23PProvostSo, other that having sets for Warrior stances, Druid forms, and Rogue stealthing, what else should ClosetGnome_Switcher do? :)
03:28.54XuerianCan keybinds currently be set to CG sets?
03:29.04XuerianIf not it should do that :3
03:29.14PProvostNot sure, but that would certainly be another mod and not this one I think.
03:29.21PProvostGood idea tho
03:29.24XuerianAhh, [Auto]Switcher :P
03:29.38XuerianNevermind then :p
03:29.40PProvostI've been thinking about renaming it CG_Transmogrifier
03:29.53PProvostOr just CG_ShapeShifter
03:30.05Triadiankb1 - mind sending me your version then plz ?
03:30.12PProvostUnless there are other interesting events that people use Outfitter/ItemRack for.
03:30.16XuerianCG_TransformerGnome
03:30.17Xuerian:p
03:30.29kergotha shadowform one for priests would be useful
03:30.35PProvostAhhh... right!
03:30.46PProvostI knew someone mentioned something like that.
03:30.47PProvostThanks
03:30.51Triadianits just so annoying having to disable then relog to turn it back on :(
03:30.51XuerianOne for innervating, too
03:30.55PProvostkergoth, does it show up as a buff?
03:31.17kergothpretty sure it does, i dont have a high level priest, just speaking for my bro who uses my addon set and does :)
03:31.24PProvosthokay
03:31.39PProvostI'll dig for it. Don't have a priest tho, so won't be able to test it. :(
03:32.04PProvostI'm guessing it shows up like Prowl does for Druids.
03:32.08KalamadiYes, Shadowform shows up like a buff
03:32.16PProvostIn fact, I think I have that code in Bartender2_Pagemaster! Duh.
03:33.51PProvostIs there any value in one for Druid Aquatic form? Anyone ever equip special for that? (I don't.)
03:33.55Ghentjust out of curiousity, can CG not have user-defined sets?
03:33.57kb1ibthow do i fix an error like the following : bad argument #1 to 'unpack' (table expected, got nil)
03:34.10Ghentkb1ibt, whatever you're passing it is empty
03:34.16Ghentrather, doesn't exist at all
03:34.28PProvostGhent, it does have them, but it won't swap them automagically for you
03:34.35GhentPProvost, ah
03:34.38PProvostThat is what switcher does.
03:34.41Ghentgotcha :D
03:34.50PProvostvhaarr has this separated intentionally.
03:35.04kb1ibtTriadian, i'm using OneBag unmodified from SVN
03:35.28TriadianMMm will go check ty
03:35.32mjcI'll unmodify your face
03:35.48haste:D
03:35.50XuerianSeeing as the results of the last zillion times this have been asked escape me, is it faster, for display purposes, to use string.format or .. to join various strings?
03:36.19GhentTriadian, what's the error OneBag gives you specifically?  or did I miss it?
03:36.22Xuerians/have/has/
03:36.34kb1ibtGhent, I don't even know i just throught it might be an easier fix since i'm testing prat on TBC and it isn't showing anything in my chat frams and that iss the error it is passing from line 129 of the UrlCopy
03:36.59hasteXuerian: My guess is: Try it
03:37.13Xuerianhaste: But, that would make too much sense!
03:37.20PProvostXuerian, in most languages format is faster because it results in less strings for the GC to collect. I have no idea about Lua.
03:37.21Ghentkb1ibt, it sounds like it was using something that is now not available in TBC
03:37.39Ghentor has somehow changed
03:38.01XuerianThanks PProvost :)
03:38.09PProvostNo help there... just rumours. :)
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03:39.46Triadianghent - i did a rough translation myself as dont have svn access - when i open my smelt screen all is fine till i click any create button then i get the blizz onebag has been blocked from a function only available to default ui - diasable ignore
03:40.07hastePProvost: tek told me to use string.format() back in the early oRA days, so it might be the case
03:40.08Ghentah
03:40.22PProvostSeems likely that he of all people would have tested it. :)
03:40.27tekkubhrm?
03:40.35PProvoststring.fomat() vs ..
03:40.37GhentTriadian, then it may not hook into trade skills at all but it may be doing something to the inventory functions that has been blocked by the new UI changes
03:40.58Triadianbut why specificcally on the smelt screen ?
03:41.07Triadianit seems ok elsewhere like the first aid etc ?
03:41.09Ghenthave you tested other tradeskill screens?
03:41.12tekkubdepends on how they're used
03:41.22tekkubboth have disadvatages
03:41.23GhentTriadian, hrm, I dunno
03:41.37tekkubstring.format is a lot easier to localize tho :)
03:41.39Triadianactually first aid is gone too - jewelcraft is fine :P
03:41.58Ghentrofl, I just went to ask.com and this is one of the random questions that came up for me
03:42.06GhentIs it painful if you stick your willy into a vacuum cleaner hose?
03:42.12Triadiani know the trade and skills are seperate so it seems to only effect one of em ?
03:42.14hastesick mind
03:42.32Triadiananswer = is it switched on ?
03:42.39kb1ibtTriadian, it sometimes isn't that mod that is causing it but how that mod uses some other mod
03:43.02kb1ibtdewdroplib is the one that normally causes tradeskills to fail
03:43.19Triadianok let me look through dewdrop then
03:46.27Triadiannot knowing much about onebag/ace2 - looks like dewdrop messes with default UI stuff
03:46.48Triadiani normally use AIOI but that seemed harder to convert :P
03:46.59Triadianwith onebag giving me this i might try doing the aioi :(
03:48.09kb1ibtaioi had/has more problems than onebag from my experience in alpha
03:49.13Triadianwell everythings missing is a good start :P
03:49.33Triadianjust want a multi bag with no logouts :(
03:49.42Triadianwhy oh why are blizz being awkward :(
03:51.24kb1ibtonebag atleast the version on SVN works, not sure why you are having troubles getting yours to work
03:52.27Triadianwell i dont have svn access :( so cant get that version : any url to download it as zip etc ?
03:52.53Triadianor dcc /
03:53.30Triadianplease ! lol i always forget to be nice when im fustrated :(
03:54.08kb1ibtyou don't need access to the developer submission svn just the regualar download svn
03:54.45kb1ibtjust read the article in the topics on how to do it
03:56.56Triadiank getting it now - ty
03:59.05kergothdgks is amusing
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04:00.22hasteI'm starting to get tired of the "You don't have the latest version of Flash" notes
04:01.36tekkubsomeone comment in this ticket please: http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/59
04:03.11PProvosttekkub, where do I get a trac login?
04:03.19tekkubshouldn't need one
04:03.27PProvostSame as SVN?
04:03.37kb1ibtdid it work tekk?
04:03.43tekkubdunno, but it shouldn't require login
04:04.02hasteit doesn't, by the looks of it that is
04:04.04tekkubyea kb1, lets see if it comes thru :)
04:04.32PProvostTook an anon comment from me.
04:04.37PProvost"My test comment" is me
04:05.32tekkubhrm... got the ggroup email but no other one
04:05.36tekkub*shrug*
04:05.39tekkubwill mess later
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04:12.50Triadiankb1 - ok now im getting revision errors ?
04:14.13kb1ibt?
04:15.29kb1ibtwhat errors is it giving?
04:15.32Triadianace-library 716: bad argument #4 to 'register' must be a number or svn revision string '$revision$' is not
04:16.41kb1ibtare you using tort? if so export the directory cause just copying it in won't get the correct numbers for that
04:16.56Triadiantort ?
04:18.02kb1ibttortuise (the svn client)
04:18.32Triadiannope using Http :
04:18.47Triadianwhen looking at the file near the top has - local ACELIBRARY_MINOR = "$Revision$"
04:19.02Triadiani'm assuming its trying to grab that string from somewhere ?
04:20.27Triadianlol tried a random number and it aint appropiate :(
04:20.47kb1ibti think you tried grabbing it from svn wrong so just grab the newest file from here: http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=OneBag/
04:21.08PProvostOr just grab the zip file www.wowace.com/files
04:21.51Triadianty both
04:21.59kb1ibtPProvost, that's what i linked for him
04:24.03Triadiangone back to that damn locale again :(
04:25.43Triadianok - using that zip ya just sent it still bombs on the smelting screen
04:26.03Triadianand if any blizz people here i hate the damn locale routines in BC :(
04:34.44CIA-1703pprovost * r14064 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/Modules/ (Druid.lua Rogue.lua Warrior.lua):
04:34.44CIA-17ClosetGnome_Switcher:
04:34.44CIA-17- Updated Druid to include Travel and Moonkin stances
04:34.44CIA-17- Added Beserker stance to Warrior
04:34.44CIA-17- Added Stealth to Rogue
04:37.21CIA-1703pprovost * r14065 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ (ClosetGnome_Switcher.toc Modules/Priest.lua): ClosetGnome_Switcher: Added Priest module with Shadowform switching
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04:45.04XuerianPProvost: Does it have a innervate set yet? =D
04:45.19PProvostNope. Next up on the list...
04:45.22PProvostSo... what is that for?
04:45.37XuerianYou want to switch to high spirit weps while innervated :)
04:45.43XuerianLike the Will
04:49.28Triadianty all - i managed to get AIOI working so i'll watch for the onebag update - ty again
04:51.52IndustrialAnyone play on US/Dethecus/Horde?
04:52.53hastewhat the hell are you doing up at this hour?
04:53.08Industrialwoke up
04:53.22Industrialand school is a laugh :P
04:53.38Industrialdone for this year
04:53.43haste:o
04:53.53hasteOnly school I attend is 17 hours of math each week
04:54.33IndustrialI have to be at school 20 hours a week
04:54.41Industrialto pass
04:54.47Industrialso I play wow there
04:54.52Industrial:P
04:54.54hastehaha
04:55.00Industrialtunneled through port 80
04:55.03Industrialto home
04:55.03Industrial:D
04:55.43hastethe WoW port is actually open at my school
04:55.57hastebut I only need to show up, and write my name on a note
04:56.01hastethen I can leave, if I want to
04:56.17hastebut it's a 1h 20min drive, so I usually stay the full time :)
04:56.30Industrial45mins in the subway for me
04:56.35Industrialend-to-end stop
04:57.20PProvostIndustrial, how do you set up the tunnel?
04:57.59IndustrialI tell my pc that the server ip is my home pc
04:59.47Industrialone for login one for the game server
05:00.10hasteIndustrial: subway in Holland is imbalanced tho'
05:00.28haste(only route I've ever taken is Amsterdam to Enschede)
05:00.34hasteand that was, seven years ago
05:00.41Industrialthats train
05:00.42Industrial:P
05:00.47hasteyeh
05:00.54hasteI blame mornings
05:01.01Industrial~mornings
05:01.06purlMornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/)
05:01.06hasteespecially monday mornings, as I don't sleep then
05:01.10Industrial~monday
05:01.12purlmonday is, like, when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix
05:02.01hasteah, so true
05:02.06hastemondays are pure evil
05:06.31Industrialso noone plays on us dethecus horde?:|
05:07.07hasteRemember that US is like GMT-5 :p
05:07.14Industrialyeah
05:07.22hastepeople usually sleep at this hour
05:07.31Industriali got a 52 warrior
05:07.35Industrialtotally undressed
05:07.37[FH]Birdemaniim in chicago and its midnight here
05:07.41Industrialno money bags items nothin
05:07.55hasteIndustrial: hacked?
05:08.39Industrialcant even buy a ride
05:08.40Industrialscammed
05:08.40hasteoh, that's nice
05:08.40Industrial:<
05:08.41hasteI could have helped you on Grim Batol EU :p
05:08.46Industrialyea ;\
05:08.54hastebut I have to leave now
05:08.56haste*waves*
05:08.59Industrialbye
05:09.02Industrialjust need a weapon
05:09.10Industrialdont care if its shit
05:09.18Industrialso i can do my attacks lol
05:09.35Industrialill go farm linen cloth or something :|
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05:22.41kb1ibthe did his update then left :-)
05:23.11CIA-1703pprovost * r14067 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/Modules/Warrior.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: Fixed berserker typos
05:23.44PProvostXuerian, so you want the set swapped in while Innervate is channeling and back out when it is done?
05:23.51PProvostIs that right?
05:23.54XuerianYep :)
05:24.01PProvostHokay
05:24.08PProvostShould only be 2 lines... one sec.
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05:29.27PProvostXuerian, hmmm... more than two...
05:29.34PProvostIt isn't a buff dammit.
05:29.44PProvostGonna be a bit longer. :) Sorry Xuerian.
05:29.47XuerianWas last I checked o_0
05:30.10XuerianLet me relog my druid :p
05:30.28PProvostNot a buff on the casting druid's list as far as I can tell...
05:30.42PProvostIt probably is on the target...
05:31.18XuerianIt's a buff on the target, yes, the target is who wants to switch gear :p
05:31.28PProvostOHHHH!!!
05:31.34PProvostYou don't want the buff on the Druid.
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05:31.41PProvostYou want the buff on the recipient?
05:31.52XuerianSince innervate grants full regen while casting, and bonus to regen, you want the most spirit you can have while on the recieving end of Innervate. So yeah
05:31.52Xuerian:P
05:32.00clad|sleepXuerian: Its okay, you can tell him
05:32.06clad|sleep"lrn 2 drood"
05:32.14XuerianI think you did a good job of it :P
05:32.55PProvostI'm only mid-40s w/ my druid... not much innervate yet.
05:33.12clad|sleep=)
05:33.17clad|sleep<3
05:34.08XuerianGet used to it :P
05:34.53kb1ibtdoes anyone know what is causing the DewDropLib bug with tradeskills in TBC?
05:34.54XuerianGreat. now I really have to get ck to integrate the icons patch into dewdrop =|
05:41.53Industrialwhats the difference between using knives and swords other then knives having more speed?
05:42.05Industrialswords do way way way more dps?
05:42.07Industrialthis is dual wield
05:42.40ggilbert_Industrial: it's all decided by the stats
05:43.09ggilbert_well I guess with a rogue you have abilities that require a dagger
05:45.45Industrialim asking cause i love low speed weapons in mmorpg games
05:46.01Industrialyou get to land more hits in pvp (what if you miss with a big ass sword...)
05:46.08Industrialand procs happen more often
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05:48.43ggilbert_plus you might have a talnet or racial for a specific weapon
05:50.53PProvostIndustrial, dagger rogues can be a little spikey and crit focused. Swords-spec get flatter DPS curves and higher averages I'm told. I play daggers. :)
05:51.28Industrialk
05:51.35Industrialim warrior :P
05:51.42Industrialfury
05:52.47ggilbert_I'm not a warrior, but I vaguelly remember fury warriors liking faster weapons
05:53.13[FH]Birdemaniim fury and like slower
05:53.23[FH]Birdemanibut slow MH, fast OH is really  nice
05:53.35ggilbert_Then Birdemani is a much better person to ask than I am :)
05:54.44Industrialoki
06:09.37navvis there an "easy" way of changing a function to a text string
06:09.37navvin lua
06:10.10ruinnahmm.. in TabletLib, would it be awful to have all buttons recalc their layout (SetPoint) on display? right now there is a pool of buttons created up front and SetPoint is called just once for each...
06:11.43ruinnai've added partial slider support to TabletLib, creating a separate pool of sliders which I'd like to reference when needed, but it means the layout of buttons gets more complex
06:13.45kergothhrm. still not decided on my tbc talent build
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06:32.18kb1ibtkergoth, i've pretty much decided to go about 7/45/9 beast/marks/survival (however i'm not getting the 41 point talent)
06:35.23kb1ibtsomething along the lines of this: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/bc-hunter/talents.html?5020000000000000000000505241205311253105033000030000000000000000
06:41.17Elkano"Expose Weakness" vs "Trueshot Aura"... will a hunter have more than 500 Agi (including bonus)?
06:43.27kb1ibtthe expose weakness talent is just like the one already on the 8/8 DS so it be availibe to the entire raid
06:45.14yosshow many debuff slots are there in the expansion. I recall them saying 128?
06:45.37kb1ibtactually after reading it...they have the same name but they are infact different, but 25% of (over 400agi)
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06:46.05kb1ibtyoss if it is indeed that many... how would you apply that with only 25 people in a normal raid?
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06:46.42yosswell, think about how much we have to hold back our debuffs nowadays
06:46.47yosswith 18 slots
06:46.54yossor is it 16 slots?
06:47.03kb1ibt16
06:47.17yossa warlock can fill 4 of those, 5 if he's life draining
06:47.19yossthat's just 1 player
06:47.40chuckg6 if he shadowburned.
06:48.06yosshunters aren't allowed to wear 8/8 DS in our raids
06:48.08kb1ibtand yet on onyxia we keep on having to remind people dots, more dots......?
06:48.35yossfor fear that it'll take up a debuff slot
06:48.57yoss128 is simply a way of allowing players to use whatever abilities they want
06:49.18yossit's not like we'll hit that limit, but the game should be designed so we wouldn't be able to
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06:50.30yosswhy do you think people forget to put up dots nowadays? It's because dots are so likely to get knocked off, they're not the player's greatest concern
06:50.59kb1ibtactually you said 6 if shadowburned x25 = 150
06:51.38yossassuming 25 warlocks in the same raid
06:51.52yosswhich is possible, but probably silly
06:52.19kb1ibtsilly yes, possible doubtfull, but still a chance
06:52.33chuckgCould happen in an AV, on say .. Ivan.
06:53.12yossat level 70 in av, I'll still be chilling in your base, sapping you as you respawn.
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07:05.31XLVIImm..
07:05.36XLVIIwhat class will 'own' in BC?
07:05.42XLVIIi can't view the talent trees or anything ;F
07:06.33CIA-1703pprovost * r14068 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher : Added check for dead or ghost to prevent unneccesary swaps.
07:07.51yossI'm guessing melee will be on the short end of the stick for the expansion, as they more than anyone depended on low health pools to survive
07:08.30PProvostnight all
07:10.18Arrowmasteri was guessing the opposite since with larger health pools and spell inturuptions casters would end up in situations where they couldnt do enough consistant damage
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07:22.32XuerianWee.... loot history
07:23.05Icerothmjc, pong
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07:26.17CIA-1703fenlis * r14069 10EQCompare/localization.kr.lua: EQCompare : Update locals koKR
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07:28.59XLVIIis there a uh..
07:29.15XLVIIsimilar AddOn to CT_MailMod?
07:29.48BoltRGmail
07:29.51BoltRIs almost the exact same
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08:03.22Neebleromg what a mega-elite addon: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3289
08:10.18XuerianOh yeah. That connection timeout screen completely pwns.
08:10.40Xuerian~whaleslap dialup
08:10.44purlACTION beats dialup upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
08:12.35CIA-1703hshh * r14075 10PartyQuestComm/PartyQuestComm.lua:
08:12.35CIA-17PartyQuestComm:
08:12.35CIA-17- fix highlight frame call error
08:14.20XuerianHaha damn, someone actually made it
08:14.51XuerianWe were talking about it over the past few weeks, iirc.
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08:22.53CIA-1703xuerian * r14078 10XLootMonitor/ (3 files):
08:22.53CIA-17XLootMonitor: Multiple modifications to threshold menus. Inclusion of isRadio on attach toggles, if available, as well as custom icons, if available.
08:22.53CIA-17New feature: History. Shows list of looted items, sorted by either time or looter, available via the main XLM menu, for the current session. Needs more work but is functional.
08:22.53CIA-17Vote for the dewdrop patch!
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08:27.04CIA-17NameToggleFu:
08:27.04CIA-17- Added options for toggling your own name on/off.
08:27.04CIA-17- Added option for toggling friendly nameplates on/off.
08:29.14phybersomeone finally provided me with the CVars for them :)
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08:36.42Arrowmasternametogglefu wouldnt happen to be able to change settings based on if your in combat or not would it?
08:41.29phyberArrowmaster: Arrowmaster it would be fairly easy to do, but would probably be something for a module for it.
08:43.38kergothfoo
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08:57.19CIA-1703greywind * r14081 10!!!Libs/:
08:57.19CIA-17!!!Libs:
08:57.19CIA-17- readded BabbleLib-2.1
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09:14.06CIA-1703greywind * r14083 10!!!Libs/!!!Libs.toc:
09:14.06CIA-17!!!Libs:
09:14.06CIA-17- err doh, actually loads BabbleLib-2.1
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09:20.13DeviadHello guys
09:21.29CIA-1703sole * r14084 10Antagonist/ (Antagonist-Options.lua Antagonist-locale.lua Antagonist.lua):
09:21.29CIA-17Antagonist
09:21.29CIA-17* added 'Self Relevant' option - shows casts which you are the target off
09:21.29CIA-17* changed max cdlimit from 500 to 600 seconds
09:21.30CIA-17* slightly optimized GetTarget method
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09:49.00Neeblerexpansion why cant you be out!!! I'm sooo bored
09:49.36CIA-1703curney * r14085 10Prat/modules/ (ChatLink.lua History.lua Scroll.lua):
09:49.36CIA-17Prat:
09:49.36CIA-17- changed case on some menu options that were causing wierd ordering (non-alphanumeric) issues when listing Prat commands (/prat).
09:49.36CIA-17- added option to hold ctrl+scroll to move up or down 5 lines at a time. this
09:49.36CIA-17is the 2nd "speed" option for scrolling now, you can either set the default
09:49.38CIA-17scroll rate or leave that setting at default of 1 and use the ctrl key to scroll
09:49.42CIA-17faster.
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10:03.58abbat_wWinAceUpdate - great util btw ;)
10:04.06abbat_wThanks for link to this one ;)
10:06.24abbat_wBtw guys, someone use PerfectRaidTargets mod?
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10:24.16NeeblerDoes anyone know where I can find info on BC tradeskills and items required for them?
10:25.19sbuabbat_w: whats WinAceUpdate?
10:25.42abbat_wThis is utility for automatic update you ace mods from svn
10:25.45sbuhmmmm
10:25.48sbuurl?
10:25.52abbat_ww8
10:26.15abbat_whttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2419.0;topicseen
10:26.57abbat_wi think all svn users must have this tool ;)
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10:37.21Neeblerhmm how much UI memory will I free up if I remove all /libs/ from each of my ace2 addon directorys, and install  !!!Libs  ?
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10:37.47NeeblerI'm wondering if its even worth doing
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10:38.36abbat_wi think you free nothing
10:38.44abbat_wlibs loads one time
10:38.58abbat_wall mods use one copy of libs i think
10:39.24abbat_wyou just free about 1-2mb hdd space ;)
10:39.47Neebler:O
10:40.03Neebler"you think"?
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10:41.49abbat_whttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns
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10:44.59Neeblerooo neat http://mapwow.com/
10:45.19abbat_w_http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns
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10:53.59yacoobNeebler, not worth it.
10:54.08yacoobUnless you want to cut down on load time
10:54.29yacoobthe memory is freed on first GC, so if you want "nice number", just force a GC after login
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11:10.54Neronix^^
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11:17.55Coolyo|GMASwhat does arimchairAlchemist require to work ?
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11:48.52[POW]Arjorguys can anyone plz help me setting up ag_UnitFrames raidframe
11:48.59[POW]Arjoror anyone that knows anything about it
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11:49.57neolith|workdid you try aguf config?
11:50.51[POW]Arjorhm well i'm not sure it's help. i have everything setup right. one thing i'm missing. i wanna see debuffs i can cure within the raid frame
11:51.02[POW]Arjordon't want to see buffs
11:51.05[POW]Arjorjust debuffs
11:52.11neolith|worklast time i checked, debuffs inside the frames were not possible - but i can't check right now cause i'm not at home
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12:03.15[POW]Arjornit even party frame?
12:03.18[POW]Arjornot*
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12:04.28Mikmakk
12:04.49Greywindone thing i dont like is i cant turn the tooltips off in aguf
12:04.58Greywindi hate the tooltips
12:05.04sergiodo you use tinytip?
12:05.17Greywindyes
12:05.28sergioyou can turn off tooltips for unitframes in the options
12:05.30sergiofor tinytip
12:05.49Greywindreally? thanks
12:06.10sergioyep
12:07.16yacoobthe amazing power of documentation :>
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12:15.28Josh_Borkehola!
12:16.38DarkImakuniyo
12:17.40[POW]Arjorso there's no hack / private lua or something to show debuffs in the ag_UnitFrames raids frames?
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12:22.09DarkImakunibah, damned rabbit ninja'd another milestone :P
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13:01.31Wobinnarf
13:02.48DarkImakuniWobin and the Brain, Wobin and the Brain, one of them is genius, the other's insane... :P
13:03.07Wobin~thinking
13:03.21Wobindamnit forgot the trigger
13:03.23Wobin~pinky
13:03.24purlAnd what are we going to do tomorrow night, Pinky?
13:03.33Mikmameh
13:03.40Wobinnot the right one =(
13:03.51Wobin~ponder
13:03.52purlI think so, but where will we find an open tattoo parlor at this time of night?
13:03.57Wobinmuhah
13:04.02yacoobThey forge the lua code / That'll change the face of WoW / Azeroth, beware / Old mods will be gone!
13:04.08Wobin~ponder
13:04.10purlI think so, but where will we find an open tattoo parlor at this time of night?
13:04.20Wobin~pondering
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13:06.47[Ammo]good afternoon
13:07.34DarkImakunigreetings Ammo
13:07.43[Ammo]oRA2 maintanks should work in TBC by tonight :p
13:08.50abbat_w_you are test ora2 in tbc? :)
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13:12.36[Ammo]yeah
13:12.51[Ammo]BigWigs works (some kinks in the color module, but if you don't touch the number of coloors you're fine)
13:13.05[Ammo]oRA2 works, apart from MT frames for which I did the drycoding
13:13.07[Ammo]just need to test it
13:17.27abbat_w_heh
13:17.47abbat_w_thats nice, don't need to be return to standard ui
13:18.27[Ammo]lots of Ace2 addons work just fine with the TBC branch
13:18.28[Ammo]of ace2
13:21.46sbuhmm any news for custom buff display addons?
13:22.01sbu(possibility to remove buffs in combat w/ right-click)
13:22.08DarkImakuniTain, you here?
13:24.31[Ammo]sbu: I think they need to use a secure buff template
13:24.40[Ammo]but elkbuffbar seemed to work in TBC
13:24.48sbumhh
13:25.34abbat_w_I hope Discord mods be work fine ;)
13:25.41abbat_w_And ora2/bigwigs
13:26.36DarkImakuniIs there an Ace2 mod like Visor? Visor and VisorGUI are my last Ace1 mods and I would love to have them updated soon :)
13:26.55DarkImakuniI would do it myself, but... I break things :P
13:27.23vhaarrkergoth: ping
13:33.25tekkubhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/index.html
13:33.26tekkubhehe
13:34.51DarkImakunilol tekkub :)
13:40.08Wobinrofl
13:40.11Wobingo bear =)
13:40.15WobinOMG BEAR
13:40.19Wobin<ding>
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13:41.06WobinDarkLegacy seems to make his strips use the least amount of redrawing as possible
13:42.43Wobinomg
13:42.44Wobinhttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/61.html
13:42.44Wobinwin
13:42.58WobinINDY!!
13:43.40DarkImakunirofl
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13:46.54sbuhmm
13:46.58sbuhow accurate is bigwigs version query?
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13:50.22[Ammo]sbu: accurate provided people use a fairly recent bigwigs
13:50.39sbumh ok
13:50.41[Ammo]if it shows N/A in the list it means, there's some bigwigs version, but it's ANCIENT
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13:50.51sbuso "24 ppl found" is really ~24 ppl
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13:51.05sbuversion doesnt matter
13:51.20[Ammo]24 peopl -> 24 BW users
13:51.23sbubut we force our raidmembers to install, and 24/40 in a raid is - errr - bad :/
13:51.44MoonWolfclearly, they do not care much for your force.
13:51.50NeeblerI'm addicted to addons! ahhhhh
13:51.54WobinYou should build in to set the skull raidicon on non bigwig users
13:51.57WobinTHE MARK OF SHAME
13:52.09MoonWolfmake it the faggy purple one.
13:52.24WobinWell there's always Robot Nipple or Condom
13:52.36MoonWolfrobot nipple ?
13:52.41WobinThe square one
13:52.46MoonWolfaha
13:52.55MoonWolfnever thought of it like that
13:53.04Wobinnow you will never be not able to =P
13:53.09MoonWolfits our sheep mark
13:53.19MoonWolfsheep are robot nipples!
13:53.36DarkImakuniO.o
13:54.02Wobinperhaps I should sleep before midnight
13:54.02WobinThis is a plan that cannot fail!
13:54.02Wobin(I hve 7 minutes to sleep
13:54.02Wobin)
13:54.06MoonWolfhmmm
13:54.22MoonWolfi think the sucsefull execution of this plan is improbable.
13:54.31WobinI have WILLPOWER!
13:54.44WobinI have FOCU...ooh. shiny...
13:54.47MoonWolfhehe
13:55.03WobinI have 5 minutes =P
13:55.10WobinWell, good night all =)
13:55.17DarkImakuninn Wobin
13:55.20MoonWolfstep away from the computer
13:56.13vhaarrMoonWolf: Can you commit to Ace2?
13:56.19MoonWolfeeeuh
13:56.31MoonWolfnever tried. is it protected or something ?
13:56.35vhaarryes
13:56.43MoonWolfthen most likely not
13:56.48MoonWolfi am not an ace2 dev
13:56.51vhaarralright
13:56.59MoonWolfnever have been, its simply above my head.
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13:57.36MoonWolfomg, its a soap!
13:59.16yacoobMoonWolf, happy to see you.
13:59.32MoonWolfnobody should be happy to see me.
13:59.46yacoobMoonWolf, SwapMagic is your evil work, right? :>
13:59.52MoonWolfit is
14:00.00MoonWolfwait, no it isnt.
14:00.07MoonWolfi have no idea what you are talking about.....
14:00.18yacoobtoo late :)
14:00.38yacoobany reason for it not to pop in for mainhand/offhand?
14:00.38MoonWolfno really
14:00.48MoonWolfi have no clue what you are talking about.
14:01.52MoonWolfyou need moonsorrow
14:02.02yacoobawshoot.
14:02.10yacoobThat I do. Sorry :(
14:02.22MoonWolfwho goes by the name of ft(something)eagle here i think.
14:02.22yacoob(rechecked the culprit on the page :)
14:02.51MoonWolfaha
14:02.54MoonWolfFtH|eagle thats him
14:03.14MoonWolfonly he has been idle fo the past 2 ours
14:03.21MoonWolfso you will have to wait for him to come back.
14:03.42FtH|eagleI'm here, what's up?
14:03.47yacoobAha!
14:04.08yacoob...a "bug" perhaps. Any reason for SwapMagic not working for mainhand and offhand slots?
14:04.21FtH|eagleHm, it should, it does at least for me
14:04.28yacoobit worked fine on everything else in my inventory frame, but not on the weapons
14:04.53yacoobFtH|eagle, mhm. I'll do some testing then. Like, disabling everything BUT SM.
14:05.08FtH|eagledon't think that this would help
14:05.14FtH|eagleyou're playing a rogue?
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14:06.17yacoobYup.
14:07.01FtH|eaglealright, I'll try to get a rogue
14:07.24yacoobwhat could be the influence?
14:07.49FtH|eagleThat's what I have to find out :)
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14:08.33yacoobFtH|eagle, would be lovely then :)
14:19.50DarkImakunihmm... http://azio.org/2006/10/13/howto-find-ssh-hackers-ips-in-a-jiffy/
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14:22.41CIA-1703jncl * r14087 10oSkin/ (8 files): oSkin: Skinned Auctioneer, skinned KLHThreatMeter (thanks to Kimat), commented out Debug statements
14:22.57yacooboSkin author must be 300/300 skinning :)
14:30.33DarkImakunivery good, mate, very good :P
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14:40.42yacoob:P
14:41.01CIA-1703fenlis * r14088 10XLootMonitor/ (XLootMonitor.toc localization.koKR.lua): XLootMonitor: Added localization koKR
14:41.52NerD`Is there any kind of addon like ItemRack, WardRobe, but aCed ? :x
14:41.59XuerianClosetGnome
14:43.05CIA-1703fenlis * r14089 10FuBar_ToFu/ (FuBar_ToFu.toc ToFuLocals.koKR.lua): FuBar_ToFu: Added localization koKR
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14:44.46NerD`Thanks Xuerian|AFK :)
14:46.35DarkImakunihttp://www.darklegacycomics.com/53.html win :D
14:48.18CIA-1703fenlis * r14090 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert : Fixed error about displayed message frame
14:48.39CIA-1703fenlis * r14091 10ColaLight/ (ColaLight-koKR.lua ColaLight.toc): ColaLight: Added localization koKR
14:54.58Mikmahttp://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/3/3b/The_epic_MacGyver_Manuver.gif
14:55.29Josh_Borkelol
14:57.22DarkImakunilol
14:58.45IndustrialRead and spread: Who killed the electric car? 1.5hrs long: http://tinyurl.com/y5543e
14:59.01Mikmawtf
14:59.13Mikmai got a Babble-zone-2.1 error :(
15:00.09Mikma!!!Libs\Babble\Babble-Zone-2.1\Babble-Zone-2.1.lua:303: AceLocale-2.1: Improper translation exists. "Dire Maul (West)" is like misspelled for
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15:02.58vhaarrKaelten: Could you commit some Ace2 deDE updates that are posted on the forum and fix a small bug in the enUS localization for AceAddon?
15:05.17DarkImakunihmm... language tutorials, anyone? http://www.tizag.com/
15:05.37DarkImakunino LUA tho :(
15:06.37Industriallua is too easy
15:06.51Industrialbesides it has a manual end best practise book online
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15:11.52CIA-1703schelli 07Schelli * r14092 10IceHUD/ (IceTripleIconElement.lua modules/TargetOfTarget.lua):
15:11.52CIA-17IceTripleIconElement.lua : change frame strata to high
15:11.52CIA-17modules/TargetOfTarget.lua : fixed bug with aggro sound
15:13.09CIA-1703schelli 07Schelli * r14093 10IceHUD_Hunter/ (IceHUD_Hunter.toc modules/TSA.lua readme.txt):
15:13.09CIA-17IceHUD_Hunter.toc : added version number
15:13.09CIA-17modules/TSA.lua : fixed problem with other players tsa blinking
15:13.09CIA-17readme.txt : added some stuff there
15:14.40CIA-1703schelli * r14094 10FuBar_TradeCDFu/FuBar_TradeCDFu.toc: FuBar_TradeCDFu.toc : added email adress for bug support
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15:19.12CIA-1703mikma * r14095 10BabbleLib/BabbleLib-2.1/Babble-Zone-2.1/Babble-Zone-2.1.lua: Babble-Zone-2.1: Added localizations for Dire Maul East/West/north
15:19.26Mikmathat should eliminate the errors
15:19.32sergio>Domestic violence surged by up to 31% on England's World Cup match days this year, Home Office data has revealed.
15:19.35sergiogiggle
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15:33.02Mikmadudes, any good addons for warlocks around with Ace2 code? :)
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15:36.15Grinebah WTB Mobile Frames replacement...
15:36.27Grineit's fucking up oSkin too...
15:38.12[FH]Birdemanichronometer is the one that shows how long things last on a mob, right? like thunderclap and dots?
15:38.20[Ammo]yeah
15:38.48[FH]Birdemanidumped NECB last night and noticed it caused a bit less lag in naxx
15:38.52[FH]BirdemaniUI lag that is
15:39.19BhattuYay, people use my addon! :)
15:39.21Grinedoes anyone have a working version of KC_Mobility
15:39.23Grine?
15:40.19[Ammo]bhattu: mind if I hack around with the chronometer detection code a bit?
15:40.28[Ammo]because it doesn't detect spells in macros :p
15:40.53BhattuAmmo: sure, go for it - I don't know how much I want to mess with it at this point, with BC giving me new spell events
15:40.56[Ammo]ofcourse in TBC it can work completely different
15:40.59[Ammo]yeah
15:41.00[FH]Birdemaniwho works on LocationFu? After yesterdays commit I am now getting lua:402:attempt to call method "getcontinent' (a nil value) in function Ontooltipupdate
15:41.21[Ammo]Ckk screwed that up birde
15:41.32[Ammo]bhattu: because in necronomicon I had near perfect detection
15:41.45[Ammo]and chronometer misses some spells
15:41.52[Ammo]mainly from macros etc
15:42.24BhattuAmmo: Yeah... I started from AceTimer, and the only major change I made to the spell detection was caching off all of the spells that the user tires to cast (instead of just the last one)
15:42.37[Ammo]yeah
15:42.40BhattuBut sometimes you get to the SPELLCAST_STOP and you still don't know for sure which spell went off
15:42.42[Ammo]well it misses some hooks I think
15:43.11[Ammo]but in TBC it's all trivial :)
15:43.25BhattuYep - that's why I've kinda given up on it for now. ;)
15:43.26[Ammo]I'll make a TBC branch too while I'm at it :)
15:43.52BhattuYeah - I wish I had some means to test it in 2.0. Guess I'll wait for the test servers like most of us
15:45.52[FH]Birdemanihttp://stupidest.net/~ceugene/tbc/inc_nerf.jpg pallys got a BUFF
15:46.17[Ammo]SoR :)
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15:52.19CIA-1703tazmanyak * r14096 10BabbleLib/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
15:52.19CIA-17BabbleLib2.0
15:52.19CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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15:55.45vhaarrhey fenlis :)
15:55.47vhaarr<- rabbit
15:56.19XuerianWoo! Translator luv <3
15:56.51vhaarr~seen tazmanyak
15:56.56purltazmanyak <n=chatzill@ken66-1-82-242-251-85.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 23m 15s ago, saying: 'good night All ^^'.
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15:57.56FtH|eagleyacoob: Tested it with a rogue, works for me so far
15:58.36NerD`Is there any kind of addon like StunWatch but aCed :p ?
15:59.04BhattuNerD`: Try Chronometer
15:59.10XuerianChronometer works :)
15:59.24cncfanaticsyo all
15:59.29XuerianHeya cnc.
16:01.04vhaarrcncfanatics: I need TabletLib and FuBarPlugin-2.0 frFR translations.
16:01.08vhaarr:D
16:01.34cncfanaticsi ain't got an fr client
16:01.46cncfanaticsengb client here
16:02.46vhaarryou can still translate it!
16:02.49vhaarr^^
16:03.10[Ammo]haha
16:03.15cncfanaticsi'm busy anyway
16:03.17cncfanaticshomework ftl
16:04.28cncfanaticslike I ain't got anything god damn better to do
16:04.32cncfanaticslike raid & work on flexbar
16:06.24[Ammo]fenlis: hello
16:07.50CIA-1703ammo * r14097 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Core.lua): BigWigs: touch for zip
16:08.15kergothmeh
16:09.11vhaarrkergoth: Would you care to commit some translation updates for deDE Ace2?
16:09.46vhaarrand koKR
16:09.59kergothunless you want the deDE ones to consist entirely of rammstein lyrics, no
16:10.04kergothi dont know those languages ;)
16:10.05Xuerianhaha
16:10.11vhaarrwell I have strings :P
16:10.27[Ammo]r14097 on svn.wowace.com/files
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16:13.20sergiodoes anyone here work on oskin
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16:23.06CIA-1703moonsorrow * r14098 10SwapMagic/SwapMagic.lua:
16:23.06CIA-17SwapMagic:
16:23.06CIA-17- You can now remove items from your slots
16:23.06CIA-17- Buttons are now grouped in blocks
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16:29.35[Ammo]haha gotta love screenshots of another mod (cr_viewport) showcasing BigWigs :)
16:29.41[Ammo]free advertisment! http://static.curse-gaming.com/mscreens/11446.jpg
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16:30.23Sarozsup
16:30.40[Ammo]the sky
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16:31.28Azurewrathwow... finally back :)
16:31.40Kalamadi~seen pastamancer
16:32.10purlpastamancer is currently on #wowace (10d 2h 31m 3s). Has said a total of 427 messages. Is idling for 1d 5h 32m 53s, last said: 'I won't shed a tear for him.  people who /spit get what they deserve'.
16:32.11XuerianHaha, praid, ebb, bw, bt2, ora... all in a shot on curse, win.
16:32.11Mikmahehe
16:32.11Mikmaneat
16:32.19pastamancerhaha
16:32.38[Ammo]hehe
16:32.57cncfanatics~seen cncfanatics
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16:32.59KalamadiHow come whenever I ~seen someone, the quote's always funny?
16:33.35pastamancerlack of context makes all sorts of things funny
16:33.49pastamanceror we could just be a particularly amusing bunch
16:34.00KalamadiA bit of both.
16:34.08KalamadiGiven that you were idling for over a day...
16:34.46cncfanaticsgod damnit, when are the bugfixes in the god damn beta realms ?
16:34.53cncfanaticsi'm stuck with coding cuz of a bug in wow
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16:38.25CIA-1703jncl * r14099 10oSkin/AOElements.lua: oSkin: KLHTM skinned again :)
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16:50.37GhentI can't handle all this talking
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16:52.07FtH|eagleis there a global table where quality colors are saved?
16:54.06yacoobFtH|eagle, hm. I'll test then.
16:54.14yacoobFtH|eagle, any debug mode I can enable?
16:54.20yacoob(in SwapMagic, I mean)
16:54.22FtH|eagleno
16:54.42FtH|eagleand download the newest version
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16:55.40XuerianFtH|eagle: GetItemQualityColor or ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS
16:55.50FtH|eagleah perfect thx :)
16:55.55XuerianITEM_QUALITY_COLORS has .r, .g, .b, and .hex for each [quality]
16:56.05Xueriangiqc returns r, g, b
16:57.22packetlsswhat is the presently funkiest Ace'd tooltip addon? i'm looking to replace the default TT
16:59.10XuerianTinyTip if you want features :)
16:59.58packetlssfeatures is good :), i'll give it a go
17:01.04GhentTT rocks
17:01.04CIA-1703moonsorrow * r14100 10SwapMagic/SwapMagic.lua:
17:01.05CIA-17SwapMagic
17:01.05CIA-17- Items now have a colored border
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17:05.14[FH]Birdemaniis there a specific wowace forum thats being used for TBC mod discussion as far as what works, errors, announcemnets?
17:05.33[Ammo]Birdemani: no
17:05.53[Ammo]Birdemani: but there are a lot of addons that work provided you get the Ace2 TBC branch
17:06.09[FH]Birdemanilet me check that out
17:06.11[Ammo]Birdemani: and make sure your other ace2 libs don't load :p
17:06.23[Ammo]FuBar_PerformanceFu is anotehr you need the TBC branch off
17:06.26[Ammo]the rest should just work
17:06.58[Ammo]I use: FuBar, ClockFu, PerformanceFu, BagFu, FriendsFu, GuildFu, oRA2, BigWigs, Bartender2, ClosetGnome, TinyTip
17:06.59[FH]Birdemanitestsuite branch?
17:07.03[Ammo]and some others
17:07.05[Ammo]no TBC branch
17:07.19[FH]Birdemanihttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Ace2/
17:07.25[FH]Birdemaniam i looking in the wrong branch?
17:07.32[FH]Birdemanishit
17:07.35[FH]Birdemanicache
17:07.36[FH]Birdemaninm
17:07.37Funkeh`hey all :0
17:07.40Funkeh`:)
17:08.27CIA-1703flyflame * r14101 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/BigWigs_HealbotAssist.lua: BigWigs_HealbotAssist: added zhCN locales
17:08.52[FH]BirdemaniAmmo: is there a way to get a few of those branches on /files? Most of the guildies getting out beta keys dont use the svn
17:09.02[Ammo]no
17:09.04[FH]Birdemanik
17:09.15[Ammo]tell them to use SVN or get them some zips yourself
17:09.25[FH]Birdemaniwill have to get them the zip
17:11.22FtH|eagleyacoob: does it work now?
17:13.15CIA-1703flyflame * r14102 10BigWigs/ (AQ40/Cthun.lua Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua): BigWigs: update Cthun and Kelthuzad zhCN locales
17:16.05yacoobFtH|eagle, I'll test it in a sec, I was hunting dinner :)
17:16.11FtH|eagleah alright :)
17:20.09CIA-1703delsphynx * r14103 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Re-added fourths and fifths to the texture list (Kenmayo's patch that was applied hadn't had those files added, hence why they were removed at that revision)
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17:27.11Clashenanyone know if there's an ACE'd version of Cooldowntimers?
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17:27.33XuerianoCD/Chronometer
17:28.43yacoobFtH|eagle, still not working :/
17:28.44hasteCDT is ace'd
17:28.49FtH|eagleweird
17:28.57FtH|eaglemaybe you should really try to deactivate some addons
17:29.36yacoobFtH|eagle, that I'll do, although I have many :D
17:29.44FtH|eagleLike me ;)
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17:31.55yacoobhm, swapmagic alone gives me information about lacking ACeOO.
17:32.06FtH|eagleoh
17:32.15yacoobwhich is doubly weird, because the libs are there.
17:32.48FtH|eagleyeah, thought I forgot it, but doesn't seem to be the case
17:33.43Cairenn(1:05:12 PM) [FH]Birdemani: is there a specific wowace forum thats being used for TBC mod discussion as far as what works, errors, announcemnets?
17:33.49FtH|eagletested it as the only addon
17:33.52FtH|eagleno problem for me either
17:33.54CairennWe've got one set up over at WoWI if folks want to use it
17:34.09yacoobFtH|eagle, can we take it to /msg?
17:34.14FtH|eaglesure
17:37.41FtH|eaglein yacoobs zip file there aren't any libs, do I have to do something special to include them into the auto generated zip file?
17:41.08CIA-1703fenlis * r14104 10BigWigs/Plugins/RaidWarn.lua:
17:41.09CIA-17BigWigs :
17:41.09CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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17:43.28nevcairielstupid locale, nearly all commit messages today stupid asian locale ^^
17:45.15XuerianShhhh, fenlis is actually here today >.>
17:47.47CIA-1703moonsorrow * r14105 10SwapMagic/libs/:
17:47.47CIA-17SwapMagic:
17:47.48CIA-17- Updated externals
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17:51.30CIA-1703nimbal 07Nimbal * r14106 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Buffalo (branch): Additional buff icons almost done. Need Metrognome now, since Blizzard uses nasty OnUpdates
17:52.43neolithhi - can anybody tell me how to create a new page on the wiki for my addon? i've never done this before and couldn't find any info on the wiki about this... :\
17:52.57[FH]Birdemaniwow, TM is now trainable for warriors!!!!!!!
17:53.04[FH]Birdemaniimp mortal strike, etc
17:53.15[FH]Birdemanigogo refresh your talents, some classes got changes
17:54.39Xuerianneolith: www.wowace.com/wiki/YourNewPage - click edit.
17:55.20XuerianYourNewPage being your addon name, of course
17:57.17Grinegib betaclient kthxbai!
17:57.31Grinealso, how do I add mobility to a frame in KC_Mobility?
17:59.21NerD`GonffBar is bugging T.T
18:00.51CIA-1703saroz * r14107 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Made mana bars smaller, changed color of Ice Block text
18:01.38KebinusanYeah some interesting changes: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34925108&sid=1
18:01.39neolith@Xuerian: thanks a lot for your help :)
18:01.48Kebinusanmaybe warriors will stop QQing now
18:02.17Kebinusanendless rage looks interesting
18:02.26Xuerianneolith: We're all nubs. Just gotta get rubbed the right way to learn how to stand tall.
18:03.19neolithhehe :)
18:03.53sbuwhats swapmagic? :o
18:04.01sbuyah i know...
18:04.06sbu!info SwapMagic
18:04.25CIA-1703fenlis * r14108 10BigWigs/Plugins/RaidWarn.lua: BigWigs : Fixed enUS spelling errors
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18:06.29CIA-1703jncl * r14109 10oSkin/AOElements.lua: oSkin: Fix for TradeFrame Trade button movement
18:06.34[FH]Birdemaniwow, i hope that didnt spam
18:06.40[FH]Birdemanimisclicked
18:06.49Kebinusanyeah you started to :-)
18:09.33CIA-1703hshh * r14110 10ChannelClean/ (ChannelClean.lua ChannelClean.toc Locale.lua):
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18:12.44chuckgWhat's with the search feature?
18:12.53chuckgDoesnt work at all.
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18:15.41ThorgardAwww. WinAceUpdater broke down.
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18:16.59ThorgardHmm, it doesn't want to update Prat for some reason..
18:17.59Grinewait a little while
18:18.13Grineusually works, guess someone is updating to SVn atm or soething
18:19.05ThorgardYeah.. getting a System.InvalidCastException: with spam. ;P
18:22.20yacoobhttp://www.engadget.com/2006/10/16/mcdonalds-mp3-players-ship-with-trojan-horse/ :D
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18:23.40Thorgardlol
18:23.41ThorgardNice.
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18:28.00CIA-1703fleetfoot * r14111 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble.lua:
18:28.00CIA-17BigTrouble:
18:28.00CIA-17- A teeny tiny logic fix
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18:30.34nazrm:O
18:32.33Gogglesanyone know why RosterLib:RosterIterator doesn't appear to be iterating over the entire raid?
18:33.45vhaarrBecause it's bugged.
18:34.24Gogglesknown issue then?
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18:49.14Funkeh`vhaarr: moment of your time?
18:50.04vhaarrFunkeh`: sure, partly afk thouh
18:50.07vhaarrgh*
18:51.47Funkeh`vhaarr: healbot module, exellent work, really liking it, but in its current condition we cannot use it simply because you cannot customize the healing order for people who dc etc, will it ever be given this feature? =)
18:52.42Funkeh`vhaarr: and a simple bug, right clicking the window and clicking close, doesnt close the frame
18:56.22[FH]Birdemanialso, would be great to get a spore group addition to healbot :)
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18:58.27vhaarrFunkeh`: Yeah, that's actually the one good argument to support sorting.
18:58.42Funkeh`=)
19:00.08Funkeh`vhaarr: so how can i temp you to add it? cookies? =P
19:01.44vhaarrFunkeh`: Code it :)
19:03.00vhaarrgaaah
19:03.00vhaarrI don't want to fix it but maybe I should.
19:03.22vhaarrI just ate, thank you.
19:03.29vhaarrtempt me with ..
19:03.32vhaarrwhat are you good at?
19:03.38Funkeh`what do you like?
19:03.39Grineso...
19:04.07Funkeh`brb, enaging =)
19:04.11Funkeh`engaging*
19:04.17GrineI'm trying to add the standard minimap buttons (mail, tracking and battlefield) to KC_Mobility, but they wont save their positions...
19:04.22Grinestoopit
19:11.24pastamancerGoggles: the rosterlib iterator fix should be simple if you want to test it for me
19:13.02vhaarrplease fix it, it has been broken for ages
19:13.35pastamancerI need someone to test it for me since I'm at work right now
19:14.07Kalamadi<= not at work
19:17.25Grineargh anyone here who can help me?
19:17.32KalamadiWith?
19:17.53GrineKC_Mobility...
19:18.14Grineand certain frames not picking up their points on reloadui and relog
19:18.51pastamancerRosterLib iterator fix - http://ace.pastey.net/1619
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19:20.10Grinehmm what is ShowUIPanel anyway?
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19:31.34ckknighthey all
19:31.36vhaarrevening ckk
19:31.52ckknightturns out Hawaii had an earthquake that shut off power for a day
19:31.57yacoobvhaarr, <ghastly voice> read todo... see a request... code it...! </>
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19:32.06vhaarryacoob: I've read the todo, thanks.
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19:36.55vhaarrckknight: Want to apply some deDE and koKR updates to Ace2, or are you branch-only at the moment?
19:37.14ckknightvhaarr, branch-only?
19:37.20vhaarrWell do you have a trunk copy?
19:37.27ckknightyea
19:37.34ckknightI'm adding zhTW to BabbleLib
19:37.35ckknighthang on
19:39.05CIA-1703ckknight * r14112 10BabbleLib/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Babble-2.0 - added zhTW translations. Thanks, enixchen
19:39.27ckknightonly language we don't have now is esES
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19:40.33vhaarrckknight: deDE for Ace2 here: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2648.msg52818#msg52818
19:40.39kergothmehh
19:40.52kergothdefinately too much scotch last night, my stomach isnt very happy with me
19:40.53yacoobHmmm.
19:41.11yacoob...deucecommander's list is bigger than my screen :>
19:41.20vhaarrckknight: And a ZIP with koKR here: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2648.msg52818#msg52818
19:41.32kergothyacoob: hehe. should make it segment by X-Category
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19:41.54ckknightkergoth, Pinot Grigio for me :-P
19:41.56ckknight;-)
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19:41.58kergothhehe
19:42.11vhaarrckknight: Also note the space at the end of "Development Tools ", should be fixed for enUS, deDE and koKR.
19:42.11GhentI'll take a reisling :o
19:42.25vhaarrckknight: I remember you stripped that from the FuBar category translation table some time ago.
19:42.26ckknightI thought I fixed that a long time ago
19:42.35vhaarrnot in Ace2
19:42.39vhaarrJust FuBar.
19:43.11vhaarrIIRC
19:44.01Beutjuone short question (i think lots of people have asked^^) when i have ace2 do i still need ace1 to run older ace addons?
19:44.25ckknightyes
19:44.50ckknightvhaarr, where's the koKR zip?
19:44.57vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2659.0
19:45.33Beutjuthx - and whats with aceGUI?
19:45.49Grineanyone familiar with the ShowUIPanel function?
19:46.18ckknightBeutju, talk to Tem
19:46.25Temhuh what?
19:46.26ckknightwhy can't I log into wowace?
19:46.29kergothisnt showuipanel just a :Show() with the stuff for sliding panels around the way character and social and such do?
19:46.40ckknightThat username does not exist.
19:46.53ckknightwtf, yes it does.
19:46.56Grinemight be, I'm trying to figure out why KC_Mobility is using it
19:47.45ckknightvhaarr, I can't download without logging in, and wowace keeps erroring when I try to log in
19:48.18vhaarrckknight: heh
19:48.53vhaarrsec
19:49.01vhaarrkilling this boss and I'll mail it
19:51.20ckknightk
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19:53.39axxobah, some addon i updated is spamming me with Test: onevent messages
19:54.21Azurewrathmhm... anyone know an Ace2 Addon with the Features of ABinfo? (Red/Blue Button coloring on range/mana and a cooldowncount)
19:56.02Gogglespastamancer:  thanks that worked a treat :)
19:56.25pastamancertested it in a raid with pets?
19:56.26axxowish i could figure out which one :\
19:56.51vhaarrckknight: sendt
19:57.25kergothAzurewrath: not ace2, but iriel's redrange does the range coloring and omni_cc does teh cooldown counts, both are lightweight and efficient afaik, no need to ace2 them
19:57.51cncfanaticsps: The bug with dragging frames in TBC shld be fixed in 2 patches :)
19:57.55cncfanaticsgot blizz to fix it
19:57.57kergothmoonwolf did lern2count/counterder which does the thing where it shows how many times you can cast a spell with the mana you have, from abinfo
19:58.43Mikmahttp://static.curse-gaming.com/mscreens/1864.jpg
19:58.46Mikmajust horrible :(
19:59.46vhaarrThat's Linoleum?
19:59.56vhaarrI used that for ages, a heavily modified version though, and it rocks.
20:00.07vhaarrClean, to-the-point, no-bullshit.
20:00.42vhaarrThe screenshot doesn't do it justice.
20:00.57vhaarrI removed the crappy background, increased the font size and removed all the bloat from it.
20:00.57Mikmathat's why i said horrible
20:03.28Kalamadicncfanatics: How's your progression with FB2?
20:05.17ckknightvhaarr, did you change the non-Ace2 libraries?
20:05.19ckknightlike Tablet?
20:05.22vhaarryes
20:05.26ckknightalright, good
20:09.52Grinedamn it I give up, if anyone here has hcaked KC_Mobility to move the minimap frames (battlefield, mail and tracking) please tell me how...
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20:15.25CIA-1703pastamancer * r14114 10RosterLib/RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.lua:
20:15.25CIA-17RosterLib:
20:15.25CIA-17- fixed IterateRoster to iterate over the entire raid properly when ignoring pets
20:15.38vhaarrckknight:                 ["Development Tools "] = "개발 ë„구 ",
20:15.46vhaarrckknight: You forgot to remove the space for koKR.
20:15.54ckknightokay
20:16.35CIA-1703ckknight * r14115 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - removed space after Development Tools
20:16.57vhaarrckknight: If you looked at tabletLib and fbp2, you'll see I declared all the enUS strings unconditionally and then if GetLocale() == "deDE" then ... end, so that there's some sort of fallback mechanism.
20:17.12tekkubhttp://www.fizzwidget.com/factionfriend
20:17.14ckknightthat works
20:17.14tekkubhehe
20:17.21tekkubtekAutoRep++ :)
20:17.31ckknighthrm?
20:18.13kergothspeaking of which, fuxpfu is getting on my nerves, i wish itd just have one bar that switches to rep if something is tracked, thats it
20:18.22kergothcant see crap with both xp and rep shown
20:18.58snurre<3 new warr talents
20:19.57ckknightkergoth, code it?
20:20.00vhaarrckknight: well I'd do it but I can't commit - guess I could make a patch for you
20:20.13ckknightvhaarr, can't commit what?
20:20.13kergothi will, just a matter of reaching the level of sufficient annoyance
20:20.20kergothits like critical mass, but for laziness and coding
20:20.22ckknighthehe.
20:20.25vhaarrckknight: to fix that for Ace2
20:20.27ckknight~laziness
20:20.28purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
20:20.30ckknightvhaarr, fix what?
20:20.45vhaarrckknight: So that enUS locales are defined unconditionally at the top and then the other locales are if'ed.
20:20.52ckknightoh
20:20.52kergoth~listkeys larson
20:21.01ckknightnah, it's fine how it is
20:21.02kergoth~larson's rule #1 of open source
20:21.04purlOne must reach the level of sufficient annoyance in order to overcome a developer's laziness and thereby cause productivity.  Or it must be a really cool hack.
20:21.05ckknightmore efficient the way I do it
20:21.13ckknighthave if statements that check locale and enUS as the else
20:21.20vhaarrckknight: I know it's more efficient.
20:21.34Funkeh`ahahaha
20:21.39Funkeh`<3 purl
20:21.48kergoth~factinfo laziness
20:21.48purllaziness -- created by greycat <~wooledg@imadev.eeg.ccf.org> at Wed Jun 26 15:59:40 2002 (1573 days); it has been requested 51 times, last by ckknight, 1m 20s ago.
20:22.00kergoth~factinfo larson's rule #1 of open source
20:22.00purllarson's rule #1 of open source -- created by kergoth <~kergoth@ip71.churchill-park.dfw.ygnition.net> at Mon Nov  1 19:30:18 2004 (714 days); it has been requested 13 times, last by kergoth, 56s ago.
20:22.01ckknightgreycat?
20:22.04kergothhehe
20:22.05kergoth714 days
20:22.13kergothgee, have i been around on freenode a while
20:24.20kergothaha, factinfo must go based on its initial creation
20:24.24kergothnot most recent modification
20:24.30kergothso doesnt show when i changed laziness
20:24.59vhaarr~seen tazmanyak
20:25.25purltazmanyak <n=chatzill@ken66-1-82-242-251-85.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 4h 51m 44s ago, saying: 'good night All ^^'.
20:25.36vhaarrfgs, where are all ze frenchies
20:27.01Mikmai think my wow will end in 1 month completel
20:27.14Mikmai've already paid my expansion but i think i will give it to my wife
20:27.25Industrialmikma
20:27.27Industrialgo pvp
20:27.29Industrialcompletely
20:27.33Mikmawhy would i
20:27.40Mikmano use of doing it alone
20:27.41Industrialnew challenge?
20:27.46Industrialshadowpriest + new talents = face melting
20:27.58Industrialget rank 14
20:27.59Industrial:P
20:28.01yacoobplus, no more friggin ladder
20:28.07Industrialthat too
20:28.14Industrialpwn zom newbz!
20:28.16Mikmayeah but i'm not planning on buying more playtime
20:28.34yacoobyour mods will miss you :(
20:28.41Mikmai won't miss em
20:28.45Chippen|TaE:(
20:30.09Mikmahttp://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/ctrlaltdel/802/20061016.jpg
20:30.14ckknight~larson's rule #2 of open source
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20:32.49IndustrialHm I have a problem with my idInterface addon
20:32.51kergothi should come up with more rules
20:33.03Industrialit consists of many different parts and one thats unitframes
20:33.03kergothi seem to be good at that sort of thing.  like the jaded thing about the days
20:33.06kergoth~tuesday
20:33.07purlTuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday).
20:33.12ckknight~monday
20:33.13purlfrom memory, monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix
20:33.14Industrialwhen i first log in my health value is set to 0/0
20:33.22kergoth~botsnack
20:33.22purlaw, gee, kergoth
20:33.26Industrialthat just does UnitHaealth() and UnitHealthMax
20:33.30Industrialbut i dont know why
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20:33.35Industrialif i /rl it works fine
20:33.40Industrialor lose/gain health/mana
20:33.45Industrialbut not when i log in
20:33.46Industrial:|
20:34.22vhaarrtekkub: When using SpecialEventsEmbed standalone, it bugs out because the Ace1 libraries are still loaded from the TOC. I removed them locally but just wanted to let you know.
20:34.51tekkubuh, there aren't Ace1 libraries
20:34.57vhaarrwell it bugs somehow
20:35.10vhaarrso I revomed the 1.0 libs and the debug.lua from the toc and it works now
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20:36.43Industrialseems a bit wrong cause that should be part of what happens before VARIABLES_LOADED
20:36.46Industrialshouldnt it :P
20:37.14dreftdoes anyone know if there's a way to 'disable' script handlers for a frame, such that GetScript for a certain handler would be returning a function, but that function would in fact not be getting called?
20:37.42ckknightnope, unless you hooked GetScript
20:37.46KebinusanNothing quite like home made chicken soup and dumplings and a side of theraflu when you're sick
20:37.49Industrial[#wowace]
20:37.52Industrialwups
20:38.11dreftbizarre, maybe the api is cheating in some way then
20:38.27ckknightclasstime
20:39.09Industrialanyne?
20:39.16vhaarrtekkub: eh, sorry to alarm you, it seems to work just fine now ><
20:39.26tekkub:P
20:39.42vhaarrbut it borks because I don't have Compost-1.0
20:48.32Industrialwow cool if a newb asks something he gets helped but i dont get helped? :P
20:48.50Industrialim a newb too
20:48.55Industrialand an attention whore
20:48.58Industrialme me me! here!
20:49.11grzesieqanyone using ruby here? :)
20:49.32pastamancerIndustrial: update the player's hp on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD?
20:50.32Industrialpastamancer: right
20:50.36Industrialsec :D
20:51.49Industrialpastamancer wins
20:54.02pastamancerI wish AceComm would let two addons register with the same prefix
20:58.51SarozHrm, I might try hitsmode, not happy with simple combat log :/
21:01.10sergiowhy not
21:01.29Sarozdunno, don't like the display
21:01.47Sarozhitsmode is simpler, heals are green, damage red, all that stuff - don't need to tweak every event myself
21:01.58Sarozanyone here using hitsmode?
21:02.01sergioshrug
21:03.54kergothi used it a long long time ago
21:05.18FtH|eagleI have to agree that the colors in hitsmode were easier to understand and better in visibility. But I think that scl is configurable enough to change it to look like hm
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21:13.46Kebinusanyeah I cant remember what caused me to switch from hitsmode to scl, I think it was a slow update on a patch day or something
21:14.10Saroz\o/
21:14.20Kebinusanoh I remember, it was the svn
21:14.30Kebinusanhurray lazy
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21:28.06CIA-1703moonsorrow * r14116 10SwapMagic/SwapMagic.lua:
21:28.06CIA-17SwapMagic:
21:28.06CIA-17- Added chat commands
21:28.06CIA-17- You can define a minimum quality type now
21:28.06CIA-17- 'Bag' is localized now, so deequiping of items should work now
21:28.06CIA-17- Problem with One-Hand type items should be solved
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21:44.28Industrialhttp://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_101606_23434127b.jpg
21:44.28Industrial*fap fap fap*
21:44.34Industrialwell ok not exactly
21:44.38Industrialbut it is sexy tho
21:44.39Industrial:D
21:45.06Industrialneeds more spacing between units
21:45.13Sarozhitsmode is back!
21:45.14Sarozfeels good
21:45.24IndustrialMSBT ftwe
21:45.25Industrial-e
21:45.44tekkubfor the whatever?
21:45.48Nigters"Off-topic": is it alright to ask addon questions in here
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21:46.20kergothIndustrial: i love msbt's triggers. i've added so much to it.. sword specialization proc'ing, hand of justice procing, etc
21:46.31nevcairieltekkub will bite your head off, but beside that, sure.
21:46.51tekkubdepends on the question :P
21:47.05tekkubask yourself... is this a stupid question?
21:47.08snurre# Tactical Mastery - Reduced to 3 ranks. Now "You retain up to an additional 5/10/15 of your rage points when you change stances." Also see the new trainer bought spell “Stance Mastery” which gives you 10 rage retention when switching stances.
21:47.13snurre<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
21:47.19Nigtersjust something about a fubar plugin
21:47.36nevcairielis there a new post what got changed this time? or only that one change?
21:47.43snurrehttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=34925108&sid=1
21:47.43Industrialkergoth: oh never tried
21:48.03nevcairielthanks
21:48.15IndustrialNigters: no i will stab you if you ask a question about addons in a channel devoted to making addons
21:48.20nevcairielyay, tree of restoration is not that slow anymore ^^
21:48.38IndustrialNigters: :P
21:48.44nevcairielsnurre plus stance mastery
21:49.01Nigters"goes away in poor misery"^^
21:49.09nevcairielnighters just ask
21:49.18nevcairiel-h
21:49.18Nigtersu sure
21:49.20nevcairielwhatever
21:49.36tekkubI have to say it, I'm sorry... but every time I look at Nigters I don't read a t but rather a g ><
21:49.53nevcairiellol
21:51.08tekkubyea just ask your question, you'll either get an answer, a flame, or ignored :)
21:51.32Nigtersits just when i login the plugin BattlegroundFu gives me an error message saying that i need a lib called DeFormat-2.0, ill go download it in svn.wowace.com place it in the lib folder and start up, and it still gives me the message (the message comes from the lib Glory-2.0)
21:51.52Nigterssomthing in line 23
21:51.57nevcairieldid you remove the embedded libs?
21:51.58tekkubactually, I'm working on a fix for all that right now :)
21:52.20tekkubuntil I get that up though, the lib needs its externals or optdeps set correctly
21:52.29Nigtersno i did not remove anything, only add the lib it told me i was missing
21:52.36nevcairielevery fubar plugin should have everything it needs out of the box
21:52.47nevcairielexcept the zip is broken again :)
21:52.57Nigtersi know it should and i even deleted the saved variables
21:53.17Nigtersand downloaded an older version, and same message
21:53.19kergothwhered ck run off to
21:53.28kergothwnat to improve dewdrop's default sorting
21:53.32nevcairielwhere did you get your battlegroundfu ? www.wowace.com/files/ ?
21:53.36kergothcurrently it sorts lowercase after all the uppercase
21:53.39kergothannoys me
21:54.16Xueriankergoth: Class. And while you're at it, get him to put in my patch :3
21:54.20tekkubyea that is annoying, something else does that too
21:54.23Nigterscame with Photek UI, but the first 2 days of using it it worked fine then suddenly, i logged in this morning, it stopped working and gave me that message
21:55.49Nigtersam i disconnected?
21:55.58nevcairielno
21:56.02Nigtersok lol
21:56.03kergoththe issue is it, afaik, just does a <, and lua's < on strings is based on the byte value
21:56.07kergothand in ascii...
21:56.18kergotheasy fix, just change it to string.upper(a) < string.upper(b)
21:57.01nevcairielNigters: one sec
21:57.11Nigterssure
21:57.38nevcairielNigters: try http://www.wowace.com/files/FuBar_BattlegroundFu/FuBar_BattlegroundFu-r14117.zip
21:57.42nevcairieland see if it still happens
21:57.49Nigtersok ill try
21:57.54Nigters2 min and im back
21:59.15tekkub*makes swirley motion* kergon kergoff
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21:59.36kergothNeronix: you around?
22:00.40Atzehmm 4 minutes ago i committed something to svn, but no echo here from CIA-17 is this normal?
22:00.51nevcairielits lagged or something
22:01.40Xuerianhaha.
22:01.40ckknighthey all
22:01.45Industrialhttp://www.imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_101606_235808421.jpg
22:01.46Industrial:]
22:01.47Xuerianwb ckknight :P
22:01.48Industrialckknight: lo
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22:02.07NigtersNevcairiel: i get this excact error message again: ...ons/FuBar/Battleground_FU/lib/glory-2.0.lua:23: glory-2.0 requires DeFormat-2.0
22:02.24ckknightit's kinda funny when I figure out a solution to a problem that the professor (and the other students) can't
22:02.26ckknight:-P
22:02.42Xuerianlol, what was the problem? :p
22:02.56Nigtersfubar plugin
22:03.08nevcairielNigters: did you completly close the game and restart?
22:03.12ckknightWrite out the Context-free Grammar to the Complement of { a^n b^n | n >= 0 }
22:03.19ckknightXuerian, ^---
22:03.57ckknightI figured it out, takes some thinking
22:04.30XuerianNot so much that as I don't know what Complement or Context-free mean in this.. context <><
22:04.33kergothckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/1622
22:04.42CIA-1703bordeaux * r14118 10BananaBar2/ (11 files in 3 dirs):
22:04.42CIA-17BananaBar2:
22:04.43CIA-17- Bugfix: health bar not shown, missing texture
22:04.43CIA-17- Added sounds
22:04.43CIA-17- Remove raid symbol when trying to set it again on the same target
22:04.43CIA-17- Used OnClick instead OnMouseDown
22:04.45CIA-17- Set Hunter's Mark function
22:04.47CIA-1703nevcairiel * r14117 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/FuBar_BattlegroundFu.toc: BattlegroundFu: touch, externals are missing from latest .zip
22:04.49ckknightXuerian, Complement is like "not"
22:04.50Industrialbananabar?
22:05.11ckknightkergoth, I like the patch.
22:05.18ckknightkergoth, feel free to commit
22:05.28kergothk
22:05.31[GsoZ]Bordeaus@indust yes
22:05.31XuerianWhile we're talking about patches <.< >.> http://xuerian.net/dewdrop_icons_radio.patch
22:05.50ckknightfrankly, I think that radio buttons should use text with a validate table.
22:05.55Nigtersand that means nev?
22:06.48Xuerianckknight: I fully agree, and all my quality settings use a text/validate, but here's the PoC for this context: http://imagesocket.com/view/dewdropradio_poc8a9.jpg
22:07.17ckknightah, fair enough.
22:07.22ckknightbut _you_ have to update the wiki.
22:07.25XuerianI will =D
22:07.42ckknightokay, patch away, then
22:07.49Xuerian^_^. After kergoth >.>
22:08.29ckknightupdate the wiki, then patch ;-)
22:08.35XuerianThat works :P
22:09.04CIA-1703kergoth * r14119 10DeuceCommander/DeuceCommander.lua:
22:09.04CIA-17DeuceCommander:
22:09.04CIA-17* Group addons by X-Category.
22:09.04CIA-17* Clean up the Construct method a bit.
22:09.04CIA-17* Run initial Construct at OnEnable rather than OnInitialize, to reduce the
22:09.05CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:09.07CIA-17Neronix: feel free to revert if this isn't to your liking, of course.
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22:11.23ckknightokay, anybody have any addon issues with TBC that I could fix?
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22:11.29ckknightI'm in the mood to fix something
22:12.02eternally777I'm sure I could break something for you if you'd like
22:12.10XuerianAceHook functional in tbc? :D
22:12.35ckknightsomewhat
22:12.44ckknightbut AceHook-2.1 will be released for TBC
22:12.49[GsoZ]Bordeaux@ckknight i have only no issues that you cant fix :-)
22:13.01ckknightdouble negative ftw.
22:13.22XuerianOo. That works ^_~
22:13.46kergotherm, hm
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22:14.44kergoththat was silly of me, didnt need to move the initial construct.. doesnt hurt anything, just doesnt help anything either (in deucecommander)
22:14.45kergothah well
22:16.09CIA-1703kergoth * r14120 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: DewDrop-2.0: compare the uppercase versions of alpha and bravo when sorting, to avoid the issue with lowercase being after all the uppercase.
22:16.35TullerTem: so you have an OmniCC TBC fix for me? :)
22:17.56vhaarrckknight: hm
22:18.05vhaarrckknight: How about taking a look at the UnregisterBucketEvent error?
22:18.20ckknightah
22:18.23ckknightfair enough
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22:18.30ckknightvhaarr, can you write me a test case?
22:18.31ckknight:-P
22:19.12vhaarrckknight: The test case is simple, register a BucketEvent and then unregister it.
22:19.33ckknight:-P
22:19.36vhaarr:D
22:19.43[FH]Birdemanickk: cna I bug ya to fix the locationfu errors from yesterdays commit? :p
22:19.43That1SwedeThat sounds complicated.
22:20.00ckknight[FH]Birdemani, sure, I don't know of any errors :-P
22:20.07[FH]Birdemanilet met open bugsack
22:20.12vhaarrLocationFu works fine here.
22:20.39ckknighthere, too
22:20.45ckknightdid you upgrade your Tourist-2.0?
22:20.49ckknightcause I added stuff to that
22:20.59ckknightand Babble-Zone-2.0
22:21.13[FH]BirdemaniI get lua:402 attempt to call method GetContinent (a nil value) in function fubarplugin2.0 lua:182
22:21.18[FH]Birdemanithats the cliff notes
22:21.26[FH]Birdemanii can pastey the full stack if you want
22:21.27ckknightyea, update your damn TouristLib
22:21.34[FH]Birdemanik
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22:21.58ckknightTourist:GetContinent("Tirisfal Glades") == "Eastern Kingdoms"
22:21.59ckknight;-)
22:22.59[FH]Birdemanithanks@!
22:23.34That1SwedeXLootMonitor is sexy.
22:24.18XuerianThat1Swede:  <3
22:24.29That1Swede;P
22:24.57Xuerianckknight: To AceOptions data table, should I add it as a Note at the top, or [icon] and [iconWidth, iconHeight] to applicable types?
22:25.26ckknightapplicable types.
22:25.34ckknightmake a note of gui only
22:25.48XuerianAlright
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22:29.51TemTuller, yeah
22:30.01Tembut I broke a feature
22:30.29Temand I haven't edited parts that I don't use
22:30.32Temso it's not a complete fix
22:30.38Tembut it at least fixes the tainting
22:30.46Tullerwhat broke?
22:31.00[GsoZ]Bordeauxckknight: would be nice when they add new functions to use things like TargetUnit("star") or something, but writing proposals in the german wow forum is the same as writing it on a postit and pin it on the back of my monitor
22:32.25Xuerianckknight: Done. http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table and http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Dewdrop-2.0/AddLine_Arguments - If you want to take a peek, otherwise done to match current format & your indications :)
22:32.35kergothckknight: question, why doesnt dewdrop allow spaces in name=
22:32.53ckknightkergoth, because name is what's used on the console, and the console splits by spaces
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22:33.00kergothah
22:33.11kergothright then, that makes sense
22:33.45ckknightuse dashes if you want
22:34.46ckknightdon't use underscores :-P
22:34.58ckknighthard for the layman to use
22:35.07ckknightby the layman, I mean my dad
22:35.12ckknighthe can't comprehend them well
22:35.15eternally777Ckk, I have a question
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22:35.18ckknightshoot
22:36.42eternally777assert( ( { [1] = "one" } ) == ( { "one" } ) )
22:36.48eternally777Thats the first half of my question
22:37.02NigtersHi there again i dosconnected so to the person that helped me with fubar, could you tell me what you found out again
22:37.31eternally777That statements correct right?
22:37.44kergoththe tables contents will be the same, yes.  that assertion woudl fail, naturally
22:37.45eternally777s/statements/statement's/
22:37.46ckknightno, eternally777
22:37.50kergothsince == is by object identity, not contents
22:37.58ckknightassert({} ~= {})
22:38.20ckknightbut they are functionally equivalent.
22:38.56eternally777heh, that was my way of saying "Ckk, is this the same as this?"  I wasn't really trying to use the assert function..
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22:39.00eternally777but it's ok.. moving on
22:39.08ckknightokay
22:39.24ckknightthey're functionally equivalent, though, which is what you're going for.
22:39.53eternally777what happens if I do { [100] = "one hundred"}?  Will that work?  Will LUA create a table with indices from 1 - 100, where the values of 1-99 are nil?
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22:40.24kergoth?
22:40.27ckknightno
22:40.31kergothitll create a table with one element
22:40.33ckknightit'd be a hash map.
22:40.35eternally777Sorry, I don't really know how to phrase my question properly.
22:40.38kergothyeah, not an array
22:40.47ckknight{ [1] = nil } is equalivalent to { }
22:40.57eternally777Ok, the first index of an array must be 1
22:41.02ckknightit's an empty table, a table with 0 elements
22:41.12ckknighteternally777, well, I don't know the context
22:41.14eternally777Yeah.. I guess I knew that.
22:41.22ckknightif you're using ipairs, yes, you have to start with 1
22:41.37eternally777Ok
22:41.41eternally777That's what I'm looking for
22:42.04eternally777ty
22:42.04ckknightipairs stops on the first nil
22:42.08kergothtables with holes get messy fast
22:42.37vhaarr~spank CIA-17
22:42.40purlACTION bends CIA-17 over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on CIA-17's pasty white buttocks.
22:42.49CIA-17ow
22:42.53kergoth:)
22:42.59vhaarrhaha
22:45.00CIA-1703rabbit * r14121 10ClosetGnome/ (ClosetGnome.lua readme.txt):
22:45.00CIA-17ClosetGnome:
22:45.00CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:45.00CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:45.00CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:45.02CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:45.04CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:45.10ckknight~kick CIA-17
22:45.11purlbugger off, ckknight!
22:45.20ckknighthrm.
22:46.02kergothhah
22:46.47ckknight~factinfo kick
22:46.47purlthere's no such factoid as kick, ckknight
22:46.52ckknight~factinfo kick $1
22:46.52purlckknight: there's no such factoid as kick $1
22:46.57ckknight~factinfo kick (.*)
22:46.57purlthere's no such factoid as kick (.*), ckknight
22:46.59ckknight~factinfo kick (.*?)
22:46.59purlkick (.*?) -- created by macnewbold <n=mac@69.2.248.251> at Thu Aug 10 20:34:12 2006 (67 days).
22:47.00kergoth~factinfo CMD: kick (.*?)
22:47.00purlcmd: kick (.*?) -- last modified at Sun Jul 16 18:24:04 2006 by SportChick!n=SportChi@68-64-55-234.vnnyca.adelphia.net; it has been requested 67 times, last by ckknight, 1m 49s ago.
22:47.07ckknighthrm
22:47.35vhaarrXuerian: So when are you committing icon support for dewdrops?
22:47.50XuerianAs soon as I check, double check, then check the check, so ckknight doesn't murder me :P
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22:48.04XuerianWhich would be about right now ^_^
22:48.06vhaarrGah, more eyes for teh win ->
22:48.07vhaarrCommit!
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22:50.10vhaarryay
22:50.24Xuerian:3
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22:52.11vhaarrXuerian: I don't understand the width/height restriction, though.
22:52.21CIA-1703xuerian * r14122 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:
22:52.21CIA-17Dewdrop-2.0: Added 'icon', 'iconWidth' 'iconHeight' fields to AddLine.
22:52.21CIA-17Added 'icon', 'iconWidth', 'iconHeight' to execute, range, text, group, and header types for AceOptions data table feeds.
22:52.21CIA-17Added 'isRadio' to AceOptions data table 'toggle' types.
22:52.22vhaarrWhat if I WANT fucking humongous icons in my dewdrop?
22:52.26XuerianIt's optional. 24x24 icons fit in dewdrop rows just fine
22:52.34vhaarrI want 100x100.
22:52.34Xuerianbut it defaults to 16x16 :)
22:52.41XuerianThen change it >_>
22:52.45vhaarr:D
22:53.00vhaarrSeriously, I don't see why you should restrict it to 24, if someone wants to use bigger ones.
22:53.00XuerianOr well, ask ckknight if you can change it :P
22:53.15vhaarrJust  recommend in the docs that 16 and 24 are the normal sizes.
22:53.39XuerianEh, good point. Any contradiction, ck? :P
22:54.04ckknightdon't have a restriction
22:54.23vhaarrAlso, make it possible to have a dewdrop entry with only an icon and no text.
22:54.30XuerianAlrighty, modifying docs and validation. :P
22:54.35Xuerianvhaarr: Already possible
22:54.40vhaarrorly
22:54.42Xuerianrly.
22:54.45vhaarrXuerian: :D
22:54.47vhaarrHow?
22:54.52CIA-1703rabbit * r14123 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Features icons in the dewdrop!
22:55.00XuerianAddLine('icon', 'path')
22:55.13vhaarryes but I mean from aceoptions
22:55.18XuerianHmm... yea
22:55.25XuerianLooking into that then :P
22:55.28vhaarryou'll need a "onlyIconInGUI" = true setting
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22:55.31vhaarror something
22:55.52XuerianOr just check if icon is set if title isn't.... or something. Must read code :P
22:55.58vhaarrno you can't
22:56.04vhaarrbecause a AceOptions entry must have a name
22:56.09Xuerian>.<
22:56.28XuerianOk, guiIconOnly.
22:56.49vhaarr"onlyIconInGUI" makes more sense to me, but whatever
22:57.22XuerianWas sticking to the convention of "guiXXXX"/"cmdXXXX" options for things relating only to gui/cmd
22:57.40vhaarrguiOnlyIcon in that case, I'd say
22:57.55That1SwedeI vote for guiIconOnlyIcon.
22:58.01Xuerian...
22:58.04pastamancerhaha
22:58.05vhaarr:D
22:58.16Xuerian>.<
22:58.42vhaarr"rlyIconOnlyInGUIplx"
22:58.50Xuerian~lart vhaarr
22:58.53vhaarrbah, it got old :(
22:58.57vhaarrnooooo
22:59.04Xuerianmwahahaaha
22:59.27CIA-1703grennon * r14124 10AutoTurnin/ (AutoTurnin.toc AutoTurninGlobals.lua): AutoTurnin: changed DI Residue to check for residue first so people can use the vendor
23:01.58ckknightCIA-17 didn't get my change :-(
23:02.07ckknight:UnregisterBucketEvent is fixed.
23:02.33vhaarrexcellent
23:02.49kergothmjc: okay, i'm writing addonco
23:03.01sbu!toc BananaBar2
23:03.40ckknightokay, got that done
23:03.44ckknightwhat else did people have?
23:03.58CIA-1703ckknight * r14125 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - fixed bucket event unregistering
23:04.04ckknightthere we go
23:04.53vhaarrckknight: Well, there's the old "header elements in dewdrops screw up ordering" bug that I bothered you with a while ago.
23:05.30ckknightum, they do?
23:05.36vhaarrApparently.
23:05.38sbuuhm bananabar is 'only' some raidicon bar? :o
23:05.50CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14126 10Ace2/Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - fixed bucket event unregistering
23:05.54vhaarrckknight: I've only ever seen it in BigWigs, so maybe it has something to do with the deep menus.
23:06.11kergothbananabar2 looks nice, been wanting a good raid icon bar
23:06.17vhaarrckknight: I've added debugging code to dewdrop that prints the elements that are added to it and their order, and they are all correct, but the display is fucked up.
23:06.27ckknightodd
23:06.31vhaarrckknight: So the header items do have the correct "order" set.
23:06.37vhaarrYeah, it's not critical.
23:06.40vhaarrBut it looks bad.
23:07.00CIA-1703ckknight 07TBC * r14127 10Ace2/Ace2/Ace2.toc: Ace2 - setting back LoadOnDemand
23:07.41kergothfun, lern2count hangs my wow login :)
23:08.06vhaarrGamefaq: ping
23:09.39That1SwedeXuerian, can I request a XLM feature? ;P
23:09.41ckknightokay, I think I'm gonna add automatic headers for dewdrop submenus
23:09.46XuerianThat1Swede: Go for it
23:10.22vhaarrckknight: ah - just to make that clear, I'm talking about headers with name = " ", i.e. spacers.
23:10.27That1SwedeXuerian, a 'test' command that spews some random loot into the monitor so I can test the setup without having to hunt down a mob. ;P
23:10.47ckknightvhaarr, hrm. *shrug*
23:10.52XuerianThat1Swede: XLootMonitor menu -> Advanced -> Test handlers -> {a few items are there}
23:10.56That1SwedeAaah.
23:11.13XuerianI just pulled them from the examples on wowwiki, so nothing fancy :P
23:11.21That1SwedeCoo'. ;P
23:15.37vhaarrckknight: When using a AceConsole setting |type="group", get=false, set=function()...end,| thing, it's basically just a execute type that takes parameters, and yet it prints "Command is currently set to [None]" when you execute it.
23:15.46Xuerianvhaarr: There, committing. It's not predictable what icons will end up on top what if they're past around 30x30/overlap, but that's just the way dewdrop is o_0
23:16.10vhaarrckknight: I tried setting messages and current = false, nil, "" and " ", and some of those make it print an empty line, some make it print the default message/current.
23:16.30vhaarrckknight: IMO, get=false group settings shouldn't print a message/current at all?
23:16.40vhaarrXuerian: ;)
23:16.44ckknighttype='group'?
23:16.46ckknightthat's not right
23:16.48vhaarrerr
23:16.50ckknightshould be type='text'
23:16.52vhaarr="text"
23:16.54vhaarrI meant
23:16.57ckknightpastey
23:17.05vhaarrpastey what?
23:17.14ckknightyour option so I can see what you did
23:17.44vhaarrhttp://pastebin.ca/205637
23:18.56vhaarrckknight: Executing that command like "/cgbw alias" prints: "Usage: /cgbw alias <boss> <set>" and another line that says: "Alias is currently set to [None]"
23:19.23vhaarrExecuting it as "/cgbw alias test test" prints "Alias is now set to [None]"
23:19.44ckknightokay, I'll fix
23:20.22Xuerianvhaarr: All comitted. :)
23:20.27vhaarrXuerian: woohoo :)
23:21.05vhaarrckknight: mind you, according to the documentation, message and current can only be a string, I was just trying false|nil|""|" " to see if any of them worked, which they didn't.
23:21.16vhaarrBut IMO it shouldn't print anything when get=false.
23:21.27CIA-1703xuerian * r14128 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:
23:21.27CIA-17Dewdrop-2.0: Removed limitation on 'iconWidth' and 'iconHeight'.
23:21.27CIA-17Added 'guiIconOnly' handling to 'header' AceOptions type feeds to only display the respective icon.
23:21.29vhaarrSo I shouldn't need to set current/message.
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23:21.59ckknightvhaarr, line 1047-1048 in AceConsole
23:22.03ckknightif you figure out what's wrong there...
23:22.58XuerianYanno, a guiIconOnly was completely irrelevant. Excluding the name field completely yet including a icon works just fine. Damn you vhaarr.
23:23.11Xuerian:P
23:23.14vhaarrhaha
23:23.34vhaarrXuerian: Let it be.
23:23.52vhaarrSomeone will want to have a AceConsole option that shows in cmd but only as an icon in a dewdrop/GUI.
23:24.02Xuerianhm.
23:24.04XuerianGood point.
23:24.08Xuerian:)
23:24.23vhaarrckknight: That handles get != false?
23:25.02ckknightnot options.get
23:25.24vhaarr|if (passTable and passTable.get) or options.get then|
23:25.27vhaarris line 1047
23:25.35vhaarrsays "or options.get"
23:25.41tekkubmjc
23:25.42That1SwedeHmm.. I'm tempted to start playing with Lua and Ace.
23:25.43tekkub...
23:25.47CIA-1703jncl * r14129 10oSkin/ (AOElements.lua AddonFrames.lua UIElements2.lua options.lua): oSkin: Skinned IgorsMassAuction and thereby fixed the error
23:25.56Xuerianvhaarr: Actually, I only added guiIconOnly to the header clause, it'll require one more commit anyway. :P
23:26.04vhaarrXuerian: ^^
23:26.09CIA-1703tekkub * r14130 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua:
23:26.09CIA-17Ace2 (AceLibrary)
23:26.09CIA-17- Now attempts to find and load standalone versions of libraries whenever a library is queried. Will load under two conditions:
23:26.09CIA-17-- An addon with the exact same name as the major version of the library is found
23:26.11vhaarrXuerian: and a wiki update :P
23:26.11CIA-17-- An addon with the TOC field "X-AceLibrary-<major-version>" is found
23:26.12XuerianLet it be known that this was not my idea! :P
23:26.16tekkubthere, enjoy :)
23:26.22Xuerianvhaarr: Already removed limitations from addline wiki
23:26.28tekkubOptDeps for libs aren't needed anymore :)
23:26.32XuerianWent to edit aceopt and realized this >_>
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23:30.13Gamefaqvhaarr: whats up?
23:30.22vhaarrckknight: Line 1047 is |if (passTable and passTable.get) or options.get then| here
23:30.42vhaarrGamefaq: pm
23:30.44ckknightI know.
23:30.58ckknighttherefore, it checks if options.get is not false.
23:31.12vhaarrah
23:33.06kergothckknight: so we no longer need optionaldeps for each embed?  why not use the existing X-Embed field to determine the addons to be loaded, rather than basing exclusively on the exact major version as the name?
23:33.18ckknightkergoth, talk to Tekkub.
23:33.21[FH]Birdemanichronometer "self" option, seems to be just like oCD...is there any other functionality tothat?
23:33.28kergothoh, i missed
23:33.31kergothtekkub: foo
23:34.06tekkubbecause that's the same issue as maintaing OptDeps
23:34.19XuerianThere >_<
23:34.22tekkuband it's easier to do TOCs for a handful of libs :)
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23:34.55kergotharent people supposed to maintain X-Embed anyway?
23:35.21tekkubX-Embed is only for the wiki
23:35.28tekkuband as it stands, OptDeps are being a bitch to keep up
23:35.37tekkubat least for some of us *wave*
23:35.50tekkubthis would ensure the libs get loaded, OptDeps or not
23:35.57kergothi still dont see the point in limiting the name of the lib addons when lots of addons already maintain that information in X-Embed
23:36.23tekkubplus, added bonus, the standalone is loaded before any embed version registers
23:36.25CIA-1703xuerian * r14131 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop-2.0: Made guiIconOnly apply to any field that can have and has a icon.
23:36.40tekkubso if the standalone is more up to date (likely) a bunch of embeds never even load
23:36.56tekkublimiting?
23:37.20kergothyes, you're requiring that the standalone be named exactly the same as the major, which isnt the case for most today
23:37.35vhaarr:D
23:37.43tekkuband those ones use X-AceLibrary-Blahblah-2.0: true
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23:38.03Xuerian:P
23:38.09tekkubsame goes for packages like Babble or SpecialEvents... they include a TOC line for each lib in the package
23:38.17kergothi just dont see the point in duplicating information
23:38.41tekkubthe point is TOC files are missing a lot of OptDeps
23:38.51kergothand? i'm not talking about optdeps.
23:38.55tekkuband making AceLibrary load the standalones is the simplest solution
23:39.03kergothyes, it is. i'm not arguing against the change.
23:39.08tekkubwhat are you babbling about then?
23:39.14tekkub:P
23:39.50kergothX-Embed already contains the standalone addons that need to be loaded for it.  why not just load those?
23:40.06eternally777Is there a way to make Bartender2 self cast when a specific key is being held down?
23:40.13tekkubbecause X-Embed is missing in a lot of addons
23:40.22kergothits then self documenting, as the metadata for the docs is identical to the metadata used for the implementation
23:41.03vhaarrckknight: http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua#L636
23:41.03vhaarrckknight: options.get is true there, for some reason.
23:41.05tekkubkerg, if X-Embeds is present then so are the OptDeps in every addon I've seen
23:41.17tekkubOptDep loads up before AceLib's system would kick in
23:41.32tekkubso this change is moot for those addons with X-Embeds and OptDeps
23:41.33vhaarrckknight: That's not true, it's a function reference, not |true|.
23:41.47ckknightvhaarr, so figure out why?
23:41.51tekkubbut this changes will help all the addons that lack those :)
23:42.05vhaarrckknight: No idea, I'm adding debug prints
23:42.13ckknightgood plan
23:42.19tekkubplus what if X-Embeds is out of date, like I'm editing a mod and add some library in...
23:42.30tekkubI have the lib on my system, but havn't defined it in the TOC
23:42.45kergoththen remove X-Embeds from the wiki
23:42.50kergothotherwise the docs will be out of date.
23:42.52tekkubI don't have to, hell I don't even have to relog, the lib will just load up
23:43.17tekkubthe docs are usually out of date anyway :P
23:43.19XuerianThere, AceOpts wiki updated too :P
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23:43.44stratoshello
23:43.54Xuerianheya.
23:44.03kergothit just seems silly to have to maintain the same information in multiple places
23:44.12stratosis there a ace addon that shows you which addons are using the most memory?
23:44.31stratosim consuming 63MB currently, and ive got mostly ace addons
23:44.32kergothnow you need extra .toc metadata in other addons, and the X-Embed if you want docs, and they wont necessarily be synced
23:44.37kergothstratos: see warmup and teksupport
23:44.42HaremtekSupport
23:44.45stratoskk
23:44.51tekkubsilly or not, I'm going on the simple assumption that if the library needs loaded then no OptDep is defined.  If no OptDep is defined then I'm assuming X-Embeds isn't defined either
23:44.54That1Swede26.7MB!
23:45.01tekkubso in runtime, X-Embeds wouldn't help me at all
23:45.10SH|Shabador!!Warmup, but doesn't really give a clear image of Ace2 mods since they have embedded libraries that get garbagecollected after load.
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23:45.40Xuerianstratos: Keep in mind that unless you disembed embedded libraries, Warmup will display the size of all embeds along with their parent addon, when after a GC, the actual used number goes down drastically as only one copy of the library, the latest, stays in memory
23:45.53kergothyour change just made it so that optdeps is unnecessary
23:45.56tekkubthe extra toc data is only needed in the libs, and there's not may libs to edit...
23:46.01kergothwhy would i set optdeps even if i set X-Embed?
23:46.05kergothi wouldnt, its pointless now
23:46.07HaremUsually people refer to performanceFu numbers though
23:46.07CIA-1703bordeaux * r14132 10BananaBar2/ (4 files):
23:46.07CIA-17BananaBar2:
23:46.07CIA-17- Adding drag and drop for set, remove or swap rais symbols
23:46.07CIA-17- cancel layout mode with escape
23:46.09kergothso your assumption is flawed
23:46.16tekkubkergy
23:46.43tekkubinstall all my mods without externals
23:46.50tekkuband install standalones
23:46.56tekkubload up, have fun...
23:46.57tekkub:P
23:47.20tekkubI'd rather edit AceLibrary and a dozen libraries than try to fix my 50 mods
23:47.26tekkubif you want to fix my mods, fine
23:47.33tekkubif not, stop argueing :P
23:47.35kergothinstall a bunch of other mods without externals and install standalones, load up, have fun.
23:47.43kergothyou dont need that change for that to function
23:47.49kergothyou're obviously still missing the point
23:48.09XuerianNot this argument again T_T
23:48.36eternally777Why did agufFu break?
23:48.57eternally777I don't see any changes in the SVN logs that could've broken it :-(
23:49.02tekkubrigt, point missed, don't fucking care anymore
23:49.17tekkubI hate arguing things for longer than it took to implement
23:49.28kergothi prefer that the implementation be worthwhile, but suit yourself
23:51.15stratosgod i am such a nub with this stuff
23:51.34stratosis it better to have a single ace library for all addons, or have the library embedded into each addon?
23:51.41stratosthats where all the memory usage is from right?
23:51.54stratosor is this a much more complex issue then im making it sound
23:51.58Haremequivalent memory usage
23:52.00CIA-1703ckknight * r14133 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - added implicit headers to submenus. Should make submenus clearer as to which button they belong to.
23:52.07Haremeach addon loads the same library, a copy for each
23:52.09ckknightplztest, kthx
23:52.19Harembut they see that there is duplicate libraries loaded, and trash the extra ones
23:52.28stratoswho is they?
23:52.32Haremembeds and external libraries are two ways of loading the same thing
23:52.39Kebinusanmagical voodo
23:52.43Haremthe libraries themselves I think
23:52.57Baraius-phonelua gc
23:53.17vhaarrckknight: http://pastebin.ca/205687
23:53.25Baraius-phoneif i'm not mistaken
23:53.30stratosso that teksupport addon is supposed to tell me how much each addon is using in ram?
23:53.42Kebinusantechnically it takes slightly longer to load with embeds, but you don thave external dependencies, so its a tradeoff, once everything is loaded though only a single copy of each library used is kept loaded in memory... I think there is a wiki on it somewhere
23:53.44Haremkinda
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23:53.55Haremafter all the extra libs are gc
23:53.59Haremso at the current time
23:54.05ckknightsorry, vhaarr
23:54.07CIA-1703ckknight * r14134 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - typo
23:54.08ThorgardStupid power failures..
23:54.10stratosdo you know how to use it?
23:54.51vhaarrckknight: nice, works like a charm
23:55.05Haremactually teksupport is more for measuring time spent in addons and mem/sec used
23:55.09ckknightcheck out submenus
23:55.10Haremnot total memory used
23:55.12ckknighttell me what you think
23:55.42vhaarrckknight: I'm thinking maybe the submenu should be positioned so that the first active menu item is placed horizontally aligned to the current menu item?
23:55.51vhaarrckknight: That way the mouse movement is limited a bit.
23:56.01ckknighthrm...
23:56.16ckknightI dunno, that seems unnatural compared to other menus
23:56.36vhaarrOther menus don't have auto-generated headers.
23:56.47Xuerianckknight: I'd prefer to be able to set my own headers, is there some way you could check the first line to see if it was a title, or if you can add a option somewhere? the yellow headers knocks off the whole look of everything =(
23:56.50ckknighthrm.
23:57.20Xuerianlike dewdrop = AceLibrary(...; dewdrop.headers = false
23:57.24ckknightXuerian, I was figuring I should put it in now so it should be expected and so addon authors like yourself could account for them
23:57.25ckknight:-P
23:57.39XuerianI can account for them, but I can't modify them
23:57.49XuerianAnd with attached menus, I can't set header icons either :(
23:57.52ckknightnor should you... it's supposed to be standardized
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23:58.21Xuerian=|
23:58.33ckknightI can't add a global setting to turn it off
23:58.47ckknightif you come up with some solution, I'll hear it out
23:59.30ckknightor
23:59.30ckknighthrm
23:59.49ckknightmaybe instead of automatic headers I somehow make it so that the supermenu button stays highlighted...

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