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00:00.23FiredancerI tried oCD and such but I preferred numbers on the buttons to timer bars. :)
00:00.44kergothmjc: we'll want to make an addonco script.  you cant just pull down the externals, because the external path is not the standalone addon path.  its usually like CompostLib/Compost-2.0 or whatever.  we need to obey the X-Embed field in the .toc, most liekly
00:00.53mjcah
00:01.05kergothor maintain a mapping table of external path -> standalone path
00:01.06ShadoxLXnod
00:01.09CIA-1703cladhaire * r13686 10PerfectRaid/ (Localization.enUS.lua PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidOptions.lua): PerfectRaid: Group numbers.. kinda... deal with it
00:01.10kergothbut that seems excessive
00:01.12ShadoxLXi heard it was good kerg
00:01.15ShadoxLXwas just checking
00:01.20mjckergoth: find . -name \*toc | xargs grep X-Embed ?
00:01.34Tekkubugh, Kael's dependancies in One* are all fucked up, good going kael
00:01.35GogglesKergoth: MageFu: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2555.0
00:01.47kergothmjc: thats what i did.  then i used a little perl/sed to do a sort -u, no dupes, and then did an svkco on it all
00:02.17kergothGoggles: ah, thats cool
00:02.43kergothi personally prefer seperate addons for that stuff for mine, but thats cool, i'm sure some will love it
00:03.18CIA-1703tekkub * r13687 10OneView/OneView.toc: OneView - TOC Updates
00:03.40kergothhmm, specialeventsembed is one big addon for all of them isnt it..
00:03.51GogglesI get annoyed with having tons of tiny addons.
00:04.24kergothwell, for example, buying reagents is by no means a mage specific thing.. i like freerefills for that for all my chars
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00:04.56Gogglestrue I guess.  I just play a mage.  other classes don't concern me :P
00:05.28CIA-1703tekkub * r13688 10OneBag/OneBag.toc: OneBag - TOC Update
00:05.52mjckergoth: blah, how do I get sed to s/foo/\n/
00:06.45kergothexactly like that :P
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00:07.25grennonif im trying to check a variable stored with acedb and im writing a function to check it, how do i make self.db.profile.foo look at the value of foo and not try to find a variable named foo
00:07.25mjcit returns anbncndn for me
00:07.44kergothare you using "" instead of ''?
00:07.47kergothif so you'll need \\n
00:07.53kergothshell expansion
00:07.53mjcit's \r
00:07.59mjcman sed ftw
00:08.00kergothsame is true for that
00:08.14kergothos specifics ftl
00:08.15ShadoxLXinteresting
00:08.17kergoth\r doesnt work here :)
00:08.24ShadoxLXora2 doesn't download gratuity 2.0
00:08.40phyberbecause oRA2 isn't wget.
00:08.44mjcactually, scratch that
00:08.50mjckergoth: neither works
00:09.07kergothmaybe its gnu specific.  if so, use a perl oneliner
00:09.38phyberShadoxLX: also, it does here.  must be something borked at your end :)
00:09.38kergothecho a b c d | perl -ne's/ /\n/g; print'
00:09.54kergothor whatever
00:10.18mjcperl works
00:10.23ShadoxLXhmm maybe
00:10.23kergothgotta love shell portability issues
00:10.31ShadoxLXi didn't actually manually checked, but when i started up it said it was missing
00:10.42ShadoxLXyeah mine didn't DL
00:10.43ShadoxLXodd
00:10.45kergoththeres a reason i like doing most of my scripting nowadays in python instead of shell
00:10.46kergothheh
00:10.55kergothand even then theres still issues occasionall
00:10.58kergothugly
00:11.00kergothoh well
00:11.10ShadoxLXkergoth: I don't like python very much :'(
00:11.29kergothor ruby, or perl.. whatever suits you
00:11.34ShadoxLX<3 perl
00:11.40kergothpersonally i'd use python or ruby over perl anyday
00:11.52ShadoxLXhonestly, i probably just need to learn python more
00:11.55ShadoxLXI don't hate it, but ...
00:11.59ShadoxLXI didn't get along well with it =p
00:12.18kergoththe only downside is the lack of regex being a native language function
00:12.20mjcbah
00:12.21kergothyou cant just s///;
00:12.27ShadoxLXthat's a big downside =p
00:12.28mjckergoth: things hate me today. uniq isn't working either
00:12.28kergothgotta import the re module and use that
00:12.34kergoththats why i never use python for text processing
00:12.46kergothmjc: :( try sort -u? maybe thts a gnuism too, dunno
00:12.53kergothuniq should be fine though
00:13.08mjcTablet-2.0
00:13.08mjcTabletLib
00:13.09mjcTekTechEmbed
00:13.17kergothmake sure you have no trailing whitespace there maybe?
00:13.19mjcwhat am I missing
00:13.29mjcs/ //g
00:13.33mjchaha
00:13.35kergothlol
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00:13.42kergoth~botsnack
00:13.42purl:), kergoth
00:13.52ShadoxLXHow does itemrack stack up on memory usage and efficiency, is there a better ace2 alternative?
00:13.53mjcs/ /\w/
00:14.03ckknightClosetGnome
00:14.07ShadoxLXcloset gnome?
00:14.08ShadoxLXlol
00:14.11kergothcould be a trailing tab, or an extra \r or \n, i dunno how line endings work in osx
00:14.13ckknightyep
00:14.14kergothclosetgnome rules
00:14.17ShadoxLXsilly name :P
00:14.22grennonim having a dickens of a time converting my ace1 mod to ace2 because im just not getting acedb-2 calls right
00:14.25kergothits a gnome that sorts your closet
00:14.26ckknightkergoth, OS X uses unix-style \n
00:14.30kergothmaking comments the whole way
00:14.32kergothckknight: ah
00:14.34kergothbingo then
00:14.39kergothditch the \r's, mjc
00:14.46mjcno \r
00:14.48kergothyou wont see them, but if they were in a windows style .toc, itll screw up the uniq
00:14.54Quantuvisis Rabbit here tonight? :)
00:14.54phybergrennon: :o  self.db.profile.somesetting = whatever.  done \o/
00:15.03ckknightOS 9 used \r
00:15.06CIA-1703cladhaire * r13689 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidOptions.lua): PerfectRaid: Fixed option, updated truncation
00:15.10EntropismGrennon, which one are you converting?
00:15.11kergothi had to remove the \r's with perl to get my sort -u to work
00:15.32grennonmy personal one :-), minimalist
00:15.37mjcthere we go
00:15.46mjcfind AddOns -name \*toc -exec cat {} \; | grep X-Embeds | sed -e "s/## X-Embeds: / /" | perl -ne's/, /\n/g; s/\r//g; s/ //g;  print' | sort -u
00:15.52kergothhehe
00:15.56ShadoxLXhow about for putting timestamps in my chat frames?
00:15.56EntropismWoot!  Been waiting for that to turn over  ;)
00:16.00grennonthe hooks and events are much funner in ace2
00:16.12grennontook about 15 minutes to get all the stuff converted
00:16.22mjckergoth: find AddOns -name \*toc -exec cat {} \; | grep X-Embeds | sed -e "s/## X-Embeds: / /" | perl -ne's/, /\n/g; s/\r//g; s/ //g;  print' | sort -u | xargs -I svk cp //wowace/trunk/{} //AddOns
00:16.29mjcdoh
00:16.35mjc-I {}
00:16.36Entropismclose to release?
00:16.44vhaarrQuantuvis: I am.
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00:17.08grennoncant get defaults to set, im pretty sure its an author=ID10T issue
00:17.35Entropismcant help you there.  My only personal experience is user=idiot, considering I can't code  ;)
00:18.02mjckergoth: bam. a bunch don't work
00:18.25mjcs/-2.0//g
00:18.34kergoth<kergoth> heh, some of the X-Embeds are... shall we say.. a bit off.
00:18.36kergothfrom about 20 minutes ago :P
00:18.40grennoni do the registerDB and registerdefaults, log in and out but the DB is set to nil
00:18.43CIA-1703cladhaire * r13690 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Dead units no longer show out of mana
00:18.53mjckergoth: ah
00:18.59ShadoxLXdamn you clad
00:19.01ckknightAnybody watch Nip/Tuck?
00:19.02phybergrennon: did you add SavedVariables to the TOC, and is it saving the correct table?
00:19.03ShadoxLXupdaitng praid every 5 minutes!
00:19.08ShadoxLXi'm trying to update lol
00:19.25Greywindok i have part of my tutorial up http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners
00:19.26mjcShadoxLX: for the love of god and all that is holy
00:19.31mjcShadoxLX: use winaceupdater
00:19.37kergothmjc: http://kergoth.com/getlibs
00:19.39Greywindgo ahead and check it out i gotta go now
00:19.42mjcShadoxLX: you're being a dicknose :)
00:19.46ShadoxLXlol
00:19.51ShadoxLXi'm just joking :P
00:19.57mjcShadoxLX: logs
00:19.59kergothmjc: small python scraipt to take a 'libs' text file containing newline seperated libs from X-Embeds, and does a translation to come up with svk urls
00:20.03ShadoxLXI've never heard dicknose before lol
00:20.08kergothmjc: then passes that to my importsvkco script, but you can change that to svkco.py
00:20.20ShadoxLXi don't mean i'm not actually updating it :P
00:20.21kergothsome are still borked, working through them one by one
00:20.26ShadoxLXi'm joking about caring that it failed
00:20.30Greywindi tried to make my tutorial easy to understand but i was in a hurry, and its sure as hell not finished
00:20.48Greywindhopefullly the pics will explain a lot
00:21.53mjckergoth: s,/mirror,,g
00:21.54mjc:p
00:22.04kergothno, i do it that way for a reason
00:22.12mjckergoth: mine is //wowace
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00:22.25CIA-1703cladhaire * r13691 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaidConfig.lua: PerfectRaid: Fixed a localisation issue.
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00:23.01grennonphyber: i have savedvariables in the toc, it creates the file, the file gets one line MinimalistDB = nil
00:23.27phyberyour self:RegisterDB line is self:RegisterDB("MinimalistDB") ?
00:23.37grennonyes
00:24.09phyberand self:RegisterDefaults('profile', { a = true, b = false }; etc ?
00:24.14kergothwouldnt surprise me if it is nil, if you havent put any data in it
00:24.20mjckergoth: s,/wowace,//wowace/g also :P
00:24.25kergothacedb wont save settings to the sv if they're the same as default
00:24.27XuerianGreywind: Nice
00:24.30mjcconfused the hell out of me
00:24.32grennonyes, and i tried it both with a hard list of vars and a name of an array of vars
00:24.35kergothmjc: hehe
00:24.45kergothacedb isnt going to save default values into the sv
00:24.50phyberkergoth: good thought.  I had forgotten about that ;)
00:24.51kergothdeviate from defaults and see if it saves that
00:25.19grennonthe light bulb just came on
00:25.28mjcbrb, switching clients
00:25.35Greywindokies cya all later, I actually have a date for once :)
00:25.44grennonokay, i get how the defaults work now
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00:26.35mjcback.
00:26.48grennonheres the other question thats holding me up, i might be setting self.db.profile.foo or self.db.profile.bar, i have a var named var that contains either foo or bar
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00:27.08cladhaireooh idea.
00:27.08cladhairebrb
00:27.18grennonbut if i say self.db.profile.var, it looks for something named literally var
00:27.25grennonhow do i include a variable data in that call?
00:27.27kergothself.db.profile[var]
00:27.30grennondanke
00:27.32kergothi think you should read PIL
00:27.42kergoththats basic table behavior, rtfm
00:27.44kergoth:P
00:28.06mjcgrennon: lua.org/pil
00:28.07mjc:P
00:28.40grennonwhat does rtfm mean?
00:28.50mjcread the fucking manual
00:28.51mjc:)
00:28.57grennonseriously?
00:29.02Azurewrathyes.
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00:29.12cladhairejust update the post-commit script.. it'll wait 30 seconds to run the zip script.. shoudl give the mirrors time to propagate
00:29.15grennoni used to hang with a bunch of debian developers, never heard that term
00:29.21cladhaireFiredancer: Stop being from upstate NY imo
00:29.38mjcgrennon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM
00:29.43kergoth..
00:29.52kergothyou hang out with debian devs and have never heard rtfm?
00:30.01kergothits probably said every 3.5 seconds on #debian
00:30.04vhaarrI find that hard to believe as well.
00:30.04cladhairehehe
00:30.07kergothi may be underestimating
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00:30.25mjchaha
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00:30.26vhaarr:P
00:30.27kergothlmao
00:30.28grennonalright, now heres the part where you ask me how ive never heard the term but i know a bunch of people who say it all the time dont say it :-)
00:30.30cladhaire*sigh*
00:30.33mjccladhaire: rofl, noob
00:30.50cladhairei dont think ive going to write any more code.
00:30.56cladhairesince blizz is ruining uis.. gg blizz.
00:31.03mjccladhaire: nooooooo
00:32.05Azurewrathnot sure if i will even continue playing with the UI changes in 2.0... i currently invest more time into my Interface then actually playing the game
00:32.17grennoni probably could have left the code mostly the same if had just rewritten my old GetOpt and SetOpt macros then
00:34.38cladhairei was kidding.
00:34.47mjccladhaire: I figured
00:34.51GemskiOk I removed all my  /libs and got !!!StandaloneLibraries. Load up, check bugsack "You have no errors, yay!"
00:34.51cladhairepeople who say that are silly.. given that no one knows shit about the changes right now.
00:35.05Firedancerclad: why? :p
00:35.11cladhaireFiredancer: hrm?
00:35.19cladhairehehe cause it freaks me out =)
00:35.22Firedanceryou told me to stop being from upstate NY :p
00:35.24Firedanceroh
00:35.26Firedancerhehe :P
00:35.37Firedanceri'm harmless >.> ;p
00:35.41cladhaireI need to grind level 48 to 50.. where am i going?
00:35.51Firedancerinsane!
00:35.54vhaarrcladhaire: touristlib :)
00:35.56ShadoxLXfelwood?
00:36.02ShadoxLXtanaris ogres?
00:36.07cladhairei dont use libs.. someone just tell me =)
00:36.14vhaarrcladhaire: Do you use FuBar_LocationFu?
00:36.15cladhairei'ma  hunter so theyre all easy.. heh
00:36.19cladhairejust need the best payoffs.
00:36.21ShadoxLXhunter <3
00:36.22cladhairevhaarr: not on this client.
00:36.25vhaarrah
00:36.45cladhairei'm in IF.. so whats the quickest..
00:36.47grennonwell, i totally overcomplicated that conversion
00:36.50cladhairefelwood could be fun
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00:36.55vhaarrcladhaire: Searing Gorge?
00:36.56Firedanceronce I'm done messing with my addons folder I'm going to play my baby hunter ^_^
00:37.00ShadoxLXI forget exactly what level felwood is
00:37.03kergothcladhaire: i've found the thistlebarks in the southwest of gadgetzan are a solid grind spot from 47-50
00:37.04ShadoxLXbeen forever since I've levelled anything :|
00:37.09cladhairewhats in the gorge.. ive nhever leveled there =)
00:37.16vhaarr46+ quests, I think
00:37.24cladhairekergoth: hrm.. good point, they are damn easy..
00:37.34ShadoxLXhmmm
00:37.38ShadoxLXbartender needs more buttons I think :|
00:37.50kergothi spent a lot of time there with my rogue, usually taking 2-3 on at a time with blade flurry
00:37.51vhaarrcladhaire: Or Burning Steppes is 50+.
00:39.45cladhairehrm
00:39.46cladhairethanks.
00:43.26ShadoxLXwhat server, clad
00:43.27ShadoxLX?
00:43.33cladhairestormrage
00:44.23ShadoxLXkk
00:45.49JoshBorkehola!
00:46.11CIA-1703rabbit * r13692 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs: Options: Icon can be clicked to reactivate BW if on standby + corresponding tablet hint in standby mode.
00:46.14CIA-1703grennon * r13693 10Minimalist/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
00:46.14CIA-17Minimalist: initial import
00:46.14CIA-17- A collection of UI tweaks and automations
00:46.56grennonwhy cant that guy use 24 small addons instead of one big one
00:47.05grennonsuch a nub
00:47.37ShadoxLX?
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00:49.58[FH]Birdemaniman, i was so close to breaking 1k dps on loatheb tonight :/
00:50.20Firedanceri hate it when I close the wrong window >_<
00:50.52ShadoxLXhmm few more addon questions...
00:50.59ShadoxLXtooltip movement mod?
00:51.19kergothumm.. theres a small tooltip mover addon in svn, i cant remember the name though
00:51.22kergothi use tinytip
00:51.47kergoth[FH]Birdemani: 1k dps? wowie
00:52.02[FH]Birdemani962dps
00:52.11[FH]Birdemaniwell, its a rigged fight
00:52.18[FH]Birdemaniand im flury so the crit bonus is amazing
00:52.29ShadoxLXhax is what it is
00:53.49CIA-1703grennon * r13694 10Minimalist/: Minimalist: -update exteransl
00:54.20grennonjesus, now my typos are my public shame :-)
00:54.40ckknightexteransl!
00:55.08CIA-1703gamefaq * r13695 10PerfectRaid/Localization.deDE.lua: Updated deDE Translation
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00:55.53TekkubGemski, poke
00:57.49mjcbirdemani: I only get about 600 unbuffed
00:59.03mjckergoth: it tried to svk co /wowace/trunk/FuBarPlugin-2.0
00:59.06mjcobviously that doesn't work
00:59.34CIA-1703fenlis * r13696 10PerfectRaid/Localization.koKR.lua: PerfectRaid : update locals koKR
00:59.49Gamefaqgrennon: what are the differences between minimalist 2.8.2 and 3.0.0 ? only ace2?
00:59.55kergothmjc: you didnt change the default, look farther down in the code
00:59.58kergothfor elements taht arent in the table
01:00.10mjckergoth: I changed it, just mentioning :)
01:00.13kergothalso, 600? jesus, i think i'm 300-350 tops, i need better gear
01:00.14kergothhehe
01:00.19grennoni thought i published minimliast 2.9
01:00.22ckknightwe have Minimalist for Ace2?
01:00.23grennonmaybe i didnt....
01:00.23mjckergoth: tier1, combat daggers
01:00.24ckknightawesome.
01:00.24ShadoxLXdps kergoth?
01:00.32ShadoxLXi wish hunter dps were better :|
01:00.43kergothi'm combat swords in mostly 0.5 with the dal rend swords
01:00.49mjckergoth: http://ctprofiles.net/2367001 and a BWL ring I got recently
01:00.51grennoni need to add the auction options ive been putting off forever so i can finally figure out what i want to do with gmail
01:01.00Gamefaqi still have 2.8.2 in use thats why i ask this specific version
01:01.10[FH]BirdemaniIm servo/castigator with thaddius chest, kiss of the spider, etc
01:01.14grennonsome code reductions
01:01.15mjckergoth: new initialism for you btw
01:01.17mjc"UFW"
01:01.18kergothhttp://www.bod-guild.net/roster/char.php?name=Zebrin&server=Suramar
01:01.22kergothUFW?
01:01.22mjcuse fucking wikipedia
01:01.22mjc;D
01:01.23CIA-1703rabbit * r13697 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs: Options: Ctrl+Shift+Click disables BW completely.
01:01.24kergothhahah
01:01.24grennondeleted an array thats useless now as well
01:01.48grennoni had an array of things to not autosell, but blizzard changed the item quality so its no longer needed
01:02.06mjckergoth: darkmantle chest is better than BF for combat :)
01:02.13mjccadav too
01:02.25ShadoxLXct profiles is down :|
01:02.46mjckergoth: satyr's lash is a better bow :)
01:02.55ShadoxLXit's okay, i didn't want you guys to see my sad huhu's stinger :'(
01:03.02kergothi need to replace that fucking ring, i'm using a ring from zf for gods sake :)
01:03.10Gamefaqahh ok then i will wait a bit and then update to 3.x.x when you finished the import and clean up
01:03.15mjckergoth: ZG ones
01:03.20kergothmjc: i wnat the zandalar madcap chest.  at honored, working on revered
01:03.25kergothhave the aegis colleting dust
01:03.29kergothcollecting, event
01:03.29mjckergoth: you ahve better already
01:03.31kergotheven
01:03.32kergothjesus, i cant type
01:03.51mjchttp://www.die-guild.org/dep/
01:03.55mjcit's pretty accurate
01:04.49kergothah cool
01:05.07mjcyou have 841AP ?
01:05.28kergothi mustve been buffed when i uploaded that profile, i'm normally 811
01:05.40mjck
01:05.44[FH]Birdemaniheh, i had like 1970AP tonight
01:05.49mjcyou have more AP than I :P
01:05.49grennonanyways, theres probably a bunch of stuff broken in minimalist3, well see though
01:06.08BoltRAs a tank?
01:06.09BoltRBeast
01:06.14[FH]Birdemanitank? screw that
01:06.15[FH]Birdemaniim dps
01:06.22kergothhmm, that page shows darkmantle better than madcap, but madcap better than cadav.. thats about what i figured.  i swear, that SC chest will never drop for me
01:06.28BoltRI hope that is without consumables or crusader then
01:06.43grennoni tanked veklor in a lionheart and titanic legs
01:06.46mjckergoth: click combat hten click update
01:06.51mjckergoth: default is SF
01:07.11[FH]Birdemaniunbuffed in fury gear Im at like 1200AP
01:07.19kergothi did
01:07.32grennoni used the "main tank just died, oh my god, switch stances and shield wall for the last one percent" method
01:07.49mjckergoth: I see BF, cadav, DM, madcap
01:07.55ShadoxLX:|
01:08.03grennonwhich miffed me since i was about to use that timer for a recklessness
01:08.09ShadoxLXyou know if you can live the full duration of gluth's debuff it'll actually wear off after 10 stacks lol
01:08.21BoltRThe more you know
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01:08.47kergothi couldnt see cadav being better than madcap.. +8 agi +8 sta +60ap > +19sta +44ap +2% crit? that doesnt sound right, even for combat
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01:09.01grennonanyhoo, thanks for the help with acedb2 phyber
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01:09.23mjckergoth: AP > crit if you have enough crit
01:09.24BoltRI guess you are horde
01:09.27BoltRwait no
01:09.28BoltRYou aren't
01:10.42BoltRI'm going back to no comsumables
01:11.25BoltRAhh, to be DPS again
01:12.01kergothmjc: yeah, i know.. i dont though :)  i think my crit rate right now, sword build remember, so no dagger spec, is like 21%
01:12.02ShadoxLXwhat're you boltr?
01:12.16BoltRI used to be DPS, but now i'm MT ;/
01:12.20kergoth:(
01:12.42mjckergoth: get BF helm from an ony pug
01:12.48ShadoxLXimo you should get your tanking gear sharded
01:12.50ShadoxLXand be dps again
01:13.24kergothmjc: new version of getlibs on kergoth.com covers all the libs embedded in kergwow, feel free to grab the updated libs table from it
01:13.31mjcthanks. :)
01:13.33kergothmjc: thats a good idea.. i've never done ony. am attuned though
01:13.53kergothi wouldnt mind foror's eyepatch either
01:13.55BoltRShadoxLX, I don't think my guild would forgive me for that
01:13.58kergothstupid fishy boss though
01:14.00kergothhate that guy
01:14.03BoltRWe would have to use druids on patchwerk then
01:14.12ShadoxLXlol
01:14.18ShadoxLXdo you MT or HS tank, bolt?
01:15.31BoltRHS
01:15.32[FH]Birdemanii never get to dps on patchwerk or 4h, they have me in dreadnaught being a meatshield. I will say that tanking on gothik and 4h is actually fun thou
01:15.32ShadoxLXwhich #?
01:15.32mjckergoth: nobody does that fuckin boss
01:15.32BoltR1
01:15.33BoltRmy guild does the fish boss
01:15.33BoltRFor two reasons
01:15.41BoltRA) Most fun boss in the instance    B) Polymorph: Turtle
01:15.41kergothit rates belt of preserved heads above nightslayer? that doesnt sound right to me either, isnt +1% crit better than +1% hit, since instant attacks rarely miss anyway?
01:16.02mjc+1% hit on bosses makes a world of difference
01:16.18mjchttp://www.pvp.net.tf/ is a more detailed dps calc
01:16.18kergothhmm, thats true, +1% crit is only better than hit for level 62 and below
01:16.35PlorkyeranUnless you already have enough hit for your specials to not miss
01:16.42BoltRI say that, but we only do libram runs in ZG now
01:16.45[FH]Birdemaniim sitting at like 17 hit and 25 crit unbuffed
01:18.38BoltRWhat weapons do you use [FH]Birdemani
01:18.46[FH]Birdemaniservo/castigator
01:18.51ShadoxLXi need 1% more hit :(
01:18.53ShadoxLXstupid marks spec
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01:19.31kergothhmm, rates royal seal of eldre thelas far above hand of justice, guess that makes sense on bosses
01:19.59ShadoxLXag unit frames is annoying me :(
01:20.06ShadoxLXthe bars aren't exactly the same width even though they shoudl e
01:20.10ShadoxLXbe*
01:20.14ShadoxLX:(
01:21.04MikkZzz+hit is also better since crits are disproportionate threat
01:21.20MikkZzzdoesn't matter much if your dps sucks ass but... =)
01:21.38Plorkyerancrits don't generate any extra threat
01:21.59MikkZzzrly?
01:22.04PlorkyeranYes
01:22.13MikkZzzquote?
01:22.24PlorkyeranRead Kenco's threat stuff
01:23.04JoshBorkei thought it was crits don't generate any additional threat beyond the amount from the added damage
01:23.28ShadoxLXyep
01:23.36PlorkyeranThat's what all of research has shown
01:25.03kergoththat DEP page doesnt show the beads of ogre might for necklaces at all, yet i'd say +7 sta +24 ap +1% to hit is pretty solid, amongst similar qualuity necklaces
01:25.14kergothmust not have new stuff since the upgrades yet
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01:26.42BoltR... so the other tank on Gluth dies at like 20% because he is wearing a Festive Black Pant Suit
01:26.51BoltRAnd he didn't realise it
01:26.59BoltRHe was confused to as how he died
01:27.00[FH]Birdemanilol
01:27.09ckknightlol
01:27.23MikkZzzPlorkyeran: Not finding anything about crits on kenco's stuff
01:27.28BoltRLucky that fight is the type of fight where you can last with 1 tank :/
01:28.17PlorkyeranThat's because they don't generate any extra threat, so his model can ignore them :P
01:29.00ShadoxLXlol boltr
01:31.00JoshBorkeis there anyway to force an addon to be disabled by default?
01:31.22Plorkyeran## DefaultState: disabled
01:32.13kergothsheesh, according to that DEp page i might want to blow the dust off my old devilsaur set instead of using the darkmantle :P except that it doesnt account for the set bonuses
01:32.27JoshBorkeok thanks
01:32.56PlorkyeranDevilsaur is the best blue stuff and better than some epic options
01:34.34ShadoxLXAnyone know of another addon besides ct mass mail
01:34.36ShadoxLXthat does the same thing?
01:34.43ShadoxLXas I detest the idea of installing anything CT
01:34.44ShadoxLX:|
01:35.19JoshBorkecould try GMail
01:35.20AzurewrathGMail works fine
01:35.49ShadoxLXdon't suppose it has the alt click to trade window functionality as well?
01:36.18Azurewrathit has
01:36.21ShadoxLXwoo
01:36.23Azurewrathlove that feature, too. :)
01:36.50ShadoxLXvery critical feature, imo ^_^
01:37.29ShadoxLXman
01:37.36ShadoxLXi just replaced like... all of my addons w/ ace2 addons
01:37.39ShadoxLXcust my memory usage in half
01:37.44ShadoxLXcut*
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01:41.13kergothsomeone should do that alt-click trade thing as a seperate addon
01:41.20kergothi have gmail LoD, loading when i go to the mailbox
01:41.36PlorkyeranIt's kinda unrelated to mail, too
01:41.39Tekkubyea alt-trade makes no sense in gmail
01:41.59Tekkubit's an old CTMM thing
01:42.03ShadoxLXi think it's basically just to mimic teh functionality of ct mail mod
01:42.16ShadoxLXand was probably originall coded in to make for quick populating of the mass mail window with 21 items
01:42.20ShadoxLXoriginally*
01:42.35Tekkubyes, it was
01:42.38PlorkyeranIt makes some sense to handle trade in the same way as mail, but it's two seperate functions
01:42.43Tekkubugh, I hated that 21 limit
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01:42.52Tekkuband the horrendous use of bag_update
01:43.07kergothi prefer bulkmail to ctmail/gmail, but i'm still waiting for that to go full ace2
01:43.22Tekkubdamn that AceGUI2
01:43.44ShadoxLXyeah i'm not sure why massmail is limited at 21...
01:44.00Tekkubgack!  I just caught myself scratching mah tat
01:44.01ShadoxLXany reason you know of?
01:44.02Tekkub><
01:44.05ShadoxLXlolol
01:44.15Tekkubinvoulentary reactions FTL
01:44.24PlorkyeranIt's the number of frames that fit well in the space?
01:44.30Tekkubcause that many buttons fit in the frame
01:44.45Tekkubthey didn't think a listframe would be more practicle
01:44.51Tekkubaparently
01:45.07ShadoxLXcoulda made the button slots smaller, no?
01:46.23BoltRRemember when it was first written
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01:46.32BoltRBack before addons were very complex
01:46.35[FH]Birdemanii use gmail/bulk/expressmail atm
01:46.38BoltRWith their interface
01:46.52PlorkyeranPretty much everything sucked then
01:47.03PlorkyeranThe CT stuff is just fairly unique in that it's still used
01:47.08BoltRYeah
01:47.09ShadoxLXcry
01:47.20ShadoxLXwhy don't people make unit frames where you can perfectly line up the boxes :|
01:47.27ShadoxLXi hate the lack of precision involved in dragging
01:47.33PlorkyeranUse Visor :P
01:47.45ShadoxLXwhat is that?
01:47.54ShadoxLXis it a unitframe, or a tweaker type mod?
01:48.01PlorkyeranCLI MoveAnything
01:48.09BoltRYou coudl edit files in your WTF folder too ;p
01:48.17PlorkyeranExcept it lets you do a lot more, and has basically no overhead
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01:48.29ShadoxLXit's just driving me crazy, I'm messing with
01:48.31ShadoxLXag_uf
01:48.32PlorkyeranAnd is a lot less user-friendly :P
01:48.34ShadoxLXand...
01:48.43ShadoxLXone of the boxes isn't the same as the other
01:48.45ShadoxLXand they refuse to line up
01:48.48ShadoxLXit's driving me crazy
01:49.02Firedanceryeah I have all my stuff moved where I want it with Visor/VisorGUI heh.
01:49.46FiredancerI don't understnad why shit in the SV folder is like x = 687.039823747566755 y = -430.82765590044 when x = 687 y = -431 would suffice
01:50.01PlorkyeranBecause it doesn't bother to round
01:50.19PlorkyeranRound numbers would be more work, not less :P
01:50.31BoltRBecause it must be sub pixel
01:50.39BoltRSub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-pixel
01:51.01ShadoxLXdoh
01:51.02Firedancerit's just stupid for positioning stuff on the screen tho IMO ;p
01:51.03ShadoxLXvisor is Ace 1
01:51.03BoltRI think it also has to do with UI scale
01:51.11Firedancerthere's nothing wrong with Ace1
01:51.15ShadoxLXi know there isn't
01:51.20ShadoxLXi just don't have the library =P
01:51.25ShadoxLXso now i have to close wow and get it
01:51.26ShadoxLX^^
01:51.27Firedancerah :p
01:51.50Firedancersome ppl have been like "ohnoes this is ace1 not ace2 it must suck" and makes me want to slap em with a fish :p
01:52.04ShadoxLXlol
01:52.11[FH]Birdemanii just want less addons
01:52.12ShadoxLXlol
01:52.36ShadoxLXthere we go, fixed
01:52.44ShadoxLXnow lets see if I can fix these unruly unit frames
01:53.52ShadoxLXponder visor
01:54.03ShadoxLXguess
01:54.07ShadoxLXi should have gotten the GUI too eh?
01:54.17ShadoxLXsince visor alone doesn't seem to do very much for me atm
01:54.21Firedancerthe GUI makes it abit easier on ya, yes
01:54.35Firedancertho now I use the slash commands cause I understand them better :)
01:54.53ShadoxLXwell
01:54.59ShadoxLXi just looked through the /vz slash commands
01:55.02ShadoxLXand it looked like nothing but options
01:55.11ShadoxLXand settings
01:55.27Firedancerlike I have my aguf playerframe above my first bartender bar...so it's /vz f=aUFplayer p1=BOTTOMLEFT pr=Bar1 p2=TOPLEFT x=0 y=-4
01:56.01Firedanceror you can use the GUI's grab button to grab aUFplayer and just smack the nudge buttons til it's where you want :)
01:56.02ShadoxLXhow do i pull up the gui...
01:56.17Firedancerset a keybinding for it in the keybind menu
01:56.21ShadoxLXah
01:56.24ShadoxLXno slash command to pull it up?
01:56.26ShadoxLXthat's odd
01:56.35Firedancerdunno...i always have had a keybind set ;P
01:57.25Firedancer<PROTECTED>
01:57.31ShadoxLXah
01:57.32ShadoxLXvzg
01:57.34ShadoxLXis what i needed
01:57.35ShadoxLXi tried vzgui
01:57.48BoltRFiredancer, it's annoying to have to use the Ace1 libraries for one mod :
01:58.12FiredancerI use more than one Ace1 mod so I have no problems with it :)
01:58.18BoltRYeah
01:58.26[FH]Birdemanihttp://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loathebdpstj7.jpg
01:58.34[FH]Birdemanithats me on loatheb tonight boltr :p
01:59.16BoltRBeaten by a mage? For shame ;p
01:59.24[FH]Birdemaniignite
01:59.27BoltRI know lol
01:59.28ShadoxLXwhat happened to your other warriors?
01:59.31[FH]Birdemaninot sure
01:59.32ShadoxLXwhy are they getting so trounced? :|
02:00.00BoltRThe real question is
02:00.07BoltRWhy does Joy have 263 damage!
02:00.07ShadoxLXwas antonov asleep?
02:00.08ShadoxLX:)
02:00.12BoltRShould be smiting!
02:00.14BoltROr whatever
02:00.22[FH]Birdemanimy gear is 10x better than most of them
02:00.26ShadoxLXschmuck?
02:00.32ShadoxLXantonov has been around a while though bird
02:00.36ShadoxLXhis gear should be pretty good as well
02:00.38ShadoxLXor is he ms?
02:00.40[FH]Birdemanihe just went fury
02:00.43[FH]Birdemanilike last week
02:00.48ShadoxLXso is he nub then ?:P
02:01.06Firedanceri have 154 folders in my addons dir. If each mod only had one folder instead of a gazillion for lod options and plugins and modules, it would be less than half that >.>
02:01.15BoltRThe difference is
02:01.26BoltRdual wield gear is vastly different than two hander
02:01.38kergothyou cant really judge based on # of addons alone, if they're lod and not even loaded, its not exactly a factor
02:02.12BoltRI have really good 'DPS' gear, but it's two hander
02:02.17BoltRIf I were to dual wield my damage wouldn't be too good
02:02.23Firedanceri know. it was more to the point of the ppl saying they want as few folders in their addons dir as possible
02:02.24BoltRAs good as two hand DPS can be
02:02.29[FH]Birdemanimy ashkandi is rotting in my bank right now
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02:02.50BoltRMy ashkandi and my severance are ;p
02:03.01ShadoxLXhehe
02:03.02ShadoxLXhttp://shadox.dreamhosters.com/PatchDamage.png
02:03.04[FH]Birdemanithe real issue is what do i take next?
02:03.06ShadoxLXmy sad patchwerk hunter damage :(
02:03.17BoltRI'd like to get some dual wield gear, but I dont' have near the DKP for that
02:03.26[FH]Birdemanido I take an ashkandi or mom or gressel/thc
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02:03.27ShadoxLXthis menu isn't grabbing frames, Fire :/
02:03.47ShadoxLXwhoops
02:03.48BoltRI do really good damage on Thaddius in my tank gear! Yeah....
02:03.48ShadoxLXgot it
02:03.55BoltR[FH]Birdemani, I woudl say MoM
02:04.03BoltRYou are going to replace that stuff in TBC
02:04.15BoltRAnd if you are killing KT you don't need more PvE DPS ;p
02:04.25[FH]Birdemanigressel/thc will help grind more in tbc thou
02:04.28[FH]Birdemaniso, im torn
02:04.34BoltRMoM is totally IF loot ;p
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02:05.19Firedanceryou can also type in the frame names if you know them. you just have to be sure to hit enter after typing it in to make sure visor recognizes it.
02:05.56BoltRGressil/thc would be pretty cool though
02:06.32ShadoxLXyay
02:06.34ShadoxLXvisor just fixed me
02:06.58BoltRIt would put you to 311 swords
02:07.01BoltROverkill is great ;)
02:07.14[FH]Birdemaniim a noobelf
02:07.25BoltRSorry :(
02:08.27Neeblerbirdemani :(
02:09.11[FH]Birdemanihai
02:09.47BoltRHere is a fun fact: We have never not gotten FrR from Heigan
02:09.49BoltRHow lame is that?
02:10.06[FH]Birdemanithats odd
02:10.09[FH]Birdemaniits about all we get
02:10.24ShadoxLXheigan has given us lots of perceptors hats
02:10.27BoltRI had a double negatiive in there
02:10.30BoltRFrR is ALL we get
02:10.36BoltRMail ones
02:10.37ShadoxLXyou're lucky =p
02:10.52ShadoxLXthough we don't really need the frr any more
02:11.20[FH]Birdemanii just want the helm so i can look cool
02:11.27ShadoxLXI don't have any of the dropped FrR :(
02:11.37BoltRAhah, we got that tonight
02:11.43ShadoxLXI don't particularly need it though
02:11.48BoltRAnother IF item
02:11.49ShadoxLXit'd just increase my dps a bit
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02:12.35ShadoxLXi'm building a mage spelldamage set for IF =p
02:13.06Neeblerhttp://www.aintitcool.com/node/30358
02:13.07Neeblerwooooo
02:13.10BoltRahah
02:13.32BoltRIf we ever do BWL again and a shadowflame drops i'm going to ninja that, and full NW
02:13.44ShadoxLXcan't wear NW though :(
02:13.46ShadoxLXyou need the misc gear
02:13.50BoltRDamn you are right
02:14.30ShadoxLXman i have my memory usage down to like 18 mb
02:14.35ShadoxLXI really don't want to put SWS in lol
02:15.45BoltRMine is 21 with SWS
02:16.01ShadoxLXwhich version?
02:16.03ShadoxLXyou using the betas?
02:16.12ShadoxLXand if so, which one lol, he releases a new one every 3 days :|
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02:17.09[FH]Birdemaniim up to 26 in a raid with sws
02:17.33FISKER_Qnice
02:17.37FISKER_Qthe beta is starting soon
02:17.42[FH]Birdemanilink?
02:17.45FISKER_Q*croses fingers*
02:18.03ShadoxLXdid you see a post somewhere fisker?
02:18.16FISKER_Qnah
02:18.23PlorkyeranEJ boards say the beta server is up
02:18.26FISKER_Qthey just changed their alpha site to a beta site now
02:18.38ShadoxLXooo
02:18.57ShadoxLXwhat is the web address for the alpha(now beta) site?
02:19.17FISKER_Qhttps://beta.wow-europe.com/expansion
02:19.19FISKER_Qfor EU
02:20.11ShadoxLXI can't wait for it to start :)
02:20.59[FH]Birdemaniyou guys got passes?
02:21.05ShadoxLXYes
02:21.11FISKER_Qi don't
02:21.12[FH]Birdemanisee ya there
02:21.16ShadoxLXnice
02:21.16FISKER_Qcrossing fingers for one :P
02:21.19ShadoxLXbird
02:21.26ShadoxLXhave they emailed you guys back since you sent in your list of people?
02:21.32ShadoxLXbecause I haven't heard anything yet
02:21.38[FH]Birdemaninope
02:21.47ShadoxLXgood, that makes me feel better =P
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02:22.10FISKER_Qwhat list of people?
02:22.11ShadoxLXHmmm someone recommended something for tooltips earlier but I don't remember what
02:22.12Slaymanwobin, u there?
02:22.20ShadoxLXMy guild was invited to the beta
02:22.24ShadoxLXwe had to send in a list of 26 people
02:22.24FISKER_Qah
02:22.32[FH]Birdemanisame
02:22.49ShadoxLXthat EU page isn't translating over to the US wow site for me
02:22.49FISKER_Qsure you don't mean 25? :P
02:22.58ShadoxLXit said "invite you and 25 of your guildmates"
02:23.00[FH]Birdemani25 plus GM
02:23.00ShadoxLXso i read that as 26
02:23.04FISKER_Qheh
02:23.05FISKER_Qok
02:23.19ShadoxLXThat or they'll just knock off the last player on my list =P
02:23.24Slaymanfor wobin: (read it and accept it :D )  http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13151462&pageNo=1&sid=1
02:23.30BoltRI don't use the beta of SWS
02:25.05mjckergoth: did you mean kergoth.com/libs ?
02:25.38kergothnah, thats the list of embeds i generated from kergwow.  getlibs is the script, i updated the table in there that maps the embed to its svk path for some of the ones that were wrong
02:25.44kergothso many addons with hosed metadta
02:27.21mjcthere are exactly the same number of items in the urls table
02:27.23mjcshrug
02:28.37ShadoxLXhmm i wonder if there is something better than zhunter
02:28.43ShadoxLXto generate auto/aimed cast bars
02:28.47mjcyep
02:28.49ShadoxLXthat'll use a custom cast bar, i.e. oCD
02:29.31kergothbigtrouble works well for the auto/aimed shot bar
02:29.38ShadoxLXbigtrouble?
02:29.46kergoththeres also oCB_HunterBar or something like that, but i found its timing to be off
02:29.49kergothwghere bigtrouble was right on
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02:32.06ShadoxLXnod
02:32.10ShadoxLXdownloading bigtrouble right now
02:32.12ShadoxLXkergoth
02:32.18ShadoxLXwhat'd you suggest for tooltip placement?
02:32.26mjctinytip
02:32.46kergothi use tinytip, but if you want to avoid manipulating the tooltip's contents and just do placement alone, theres a tiny addon for that in svn too, i dont recall the name though
02:36.03[FH]Birdemanihttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32189684&pageNo=1&sid=1
02:36.33ShadoxLX:O
02:36.38ShadoxLXso when do we get our freaking keys? :P
02:37.54[FH]Birdemaninot sure
02:38.44ShadoxLX:|
02:39.20ShadoxLXodd
02:39.24ShadoxLXwith oCB
02:39.27ShadoxLXi can't move the mirror bar?
02:39.41ShadoxLXah there we go
02:39.58ShadoxLXer
02:40.01ShadoxLXbigtrouble... doens't use the mirror bar
02:40.06ShadoxLXsort of..
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02:41.30Tekkub"I changed my !!!Libs folder and toc name to "Ace2". Nearly every addon have this as an optionaldep."
02:41.38TekkubI'm going to go cut myself
02:41.40Tekkubnight all
02:41.52kergothhahahah
02:42.11Tekkuband only kergy laughs
02:42.17Tekkubthat evil laugh of his...
02:42.36ShadoxLXoh man bird
02:42.37Tekkubbut seriously, I am going to bed... fucking opening shift tomorrow, joys
02:42.37ShadoxLXi'm antsy :X
02:43.31kergothnight tek
02:43.50ShadoxLXbyebye tek
02:44.51ShadoxLXponder
02:53.56BoltRHmm?
02:59.08ShadoxLXwell
02:59.14ShadoxLXbird just linked a post saying closed beta has started
02:59.15ShadoxLX:|
02:59.17ShadoxLXso now i'm pondering
02:59.21ShadoxLXanxiously awaiting the email with my key
03:04.23ShadoxLXheey
03:04.27ShadoxLXct profiles started working again
03:04.28ShadoxLXhttp://ctprofiles.net/profiles.ct?a=edit&cid=728453&pid=3810111
03:04.51ShadoxLXer
03:05.09ShadoxLXhttp://ctprofiles.net/3810111
03:05.35mjcattempting to frankenstein two amd heatsinks together. woot
03:06.22ShadoxLXooo
03:06.44mjctotally not how my night should go
03:06.51ShadoxLXlol
03:06.56ShadoxLXsounds like a good choice to me
03:07.02ShadoxLXwhy exactly are you doing it though? =P
03:09.25mjcboth broken
03:19.42ShadoxLXah
03:19.57ShadoxLXgonna put it on anything or are you just doing it because you can?
03:21.11mjcmain machine down atm because the retention lever on oe HSF brke
03:21.24mjcand the other just sucks idk, probably needs ot be lapped
03:23.04ShadoxLXnod
03:23.12ShadoxLXsucks when your main machine dies :(
03:23.16ShadoxLXso what do you play wow on normally?
03:23.30ShadoxLXmac, or some crazy concoction such as wine on *nix?
03:24.09CodayusHmm
03:24.23CodayusI'm trying to track down the latest version of oUF.  Where would it be hiding?
03:24.41Codayusnm...
03:25.49mjcooo no wonder it died
03:25.56mjcit's got a crack down the middle
03:26.22mjcShadoxLX: this is my glider box, that I'm working on. my main machine I sold to my gf :P
03:26.48ShadoxLXlol
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03:26.51Solehihi
03:26.54ShadoxLXyeah split heatsink... no good
03:26.59mjcgetting a mac pro as soon as I can afford it
03:27.07ShadoxLXi knocked achunk out of my motherboard once with a screwdriver :(
03:27.54mjcnext monthish barring any financial woes
03:27.59Solehmm
03:28.05SoleCT_RaidAssist2 huh
03:28.13Solethey sure seem confident about it
03:28.22ShadoxLXwill it not suck?
03:28.24ShadoxLX=p
03:28.32ShadoxLXmjc, do you author any mods?
03:28.43BoltRWho knows
03:28.57BoltRThey are starting from scratch so it might not!
03:29.37BoltRThat or it will end up being some sort of RDX overbloated monstrosity
03:29.43mjcClosetGnome_OhNoes and soem random stuff I haven't ever finished
03:29.48mjcohnoes needs work. it'll get it this weekend
03:29.59mjcsuccess!
03:30.28kergothyou gonna maek it stop taking myw eapons away in bg?
03:30.29kergothplease?
03:30.30kergoth:)
03:30.39Solewell
03:30.52mjcyes
03:31.05Soleby the sounds of it it'l be very customizeable...so Im predicting a DiscordRaid O_O
03:31.09mjcamong other thhings
03:31.11kergothmjc is probably gonna pass me on addon development soon, and i've been messing with it for how long now?
03:31.12kergothhehe
03:31.15kergothi never release anything
03:32.33BoltRI'm waiting for someone to make CG_Attic :)
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04:02.47ShadoxLXmjc: do you have any experience with the wrt54g router?
04:03.12mjcnot v5
04:04.11ShadoxLXah
04:04.17ShadoxLXI've never been able to get the QoS to work =\
04:04.57BoltRI have a v5
04:05.05BoltRThough I flashed it to dd-wrt
04:05.20[FH]Birdemanii have v2.0 of it, updated my bios and now qos works
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04:07.13ShadoxLXyour bios or its firmware?
04:07.49ShadoxLXfucking shit email!
04:07.55ShadoxLXSTUDENTS-L Digest - 27 Sep 2006 to 11 Oct 2006 (#2...
04:07.57ShadoxLXargh
04:08.04ShadoxLXdon't send me email stupid school mailing lists
04:08.06ShadoxLXsend me beta key!
04:09.27Sole_lol
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04:09.48Sole_Im not sure if Ill be buying BC yet
04:10.13Azurewrathi have it pre-ordered since February. ;)
04:10.23Sole_lol
04:10.47Sole_im just not sure if theres anything to look forward to :(
04:10.59Sole_if blizz will really move away from the goddam faction grinds
04:11.23Sole_I dont mind raiding, in fact its often enjoyable but faction grinds are lame
04:12.08Azurewraththats why i don't really faction grind.. ;)
04:12.23Sole_yea me neither
04:12.27AzurewrathZG was through Raiding, same with MC and AQ20/40..
04:12.48Sole_oh well
04:12.58ShadoxLXlol zg was lots of gold :P
04:13.01Sole_I guess Ill buy it because my RL friends are
04:13.04Azurewrathok.. i farmed Argent Dawn to exalted for the Naxx Access and honored or something with the timbermaws.. but thats it
04:13.09ShadoxLXgreywind, was that you with the hawt date tonight? =p
04:13.42Greywindnot really hot hehe
04:13.48Greywindbut it was fun
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04:15.23ShadoxLXlol
04:15.25ShadoxLXthat's good
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04:33.41Gngskgod, noth is so stupid
04:33.54Gngskowning the encounter, one druid dies at 10% and we wipe to the curse
04:35.26ShadoxLX:(
04:35.32ShadoxLXgngsk: that sucks =\
04:35.34Gngskgg detox nurf!
04:35.50ShadoxLXone druid shoudln't wipe you though
04:35.54ShadoxLXtell your mages to quit being lazy
04:35.59Gngskwe only have 2 druids, 5 mages
04:36.11ShadoxLX=|
04:36.27Gngskactually, 2 and 4 now
04:36.32ShadoxLX:(
04:36.45ShadoxLXhow long until he ported back to the platform?
04:36.51Gngskplenty of time
04:36.52Gngsklike 2 minutes
04:37.01Gngskwe were way ahead on adds too
04:37.09ShadoxLXguild/server?
04:37.16Gngskkargath, titans of azeroth
04:37.18ShadoxLXprogress?
04:37.23Gngskworking on thaddius
04:37.32ShadoxLXdone heigan or gothik?
04:37.44Gngskhaven't tried heigan for whatever reason
04:37.49Gngskwe've tried gothik twice
04:37.55ShadoxLXhe's pretty easy and fun, you should do it :D (heigan)
04:39.59BoltRWe got heigan on our first night, we still kill him every time with like 9 people alive lol
04:40.11Gngskyea, leadership fears the clear
04:40.26BoltRClear is actually really easy
04:40.57ShadoxLXIt's not the the first time you jump in
04:41.02ShadoxLXespecially if you have no idea what's going on
04:41.08ShadoxLXI guess there's prolly a lot of info about it now though
04:41.11BoltRInteresting that they fear the clear to heigan, but are willing to attempt Gothik
04:41.18BoltRTrue ShadoxLX
04:41.37Gngskwell it has to do with history
04:41.40ShadoxLXWhen my guild did it the heigan trash was hell for a night until we figured out the cleanest way to do it
04:41.48Gngskback in the bwl days we had a lot of issues with the broodlord clear
04:41.49ShadoxLXat least, in the sense of what works for us
04:42.21mjcyay
04:42.25BoltRIt's alot more controlable than the broodlord clear
04:42.25mjc38C instead of 60C
04:42.26mjc:D
04:42.32ShadoxLXlol mjc
04:42.47ShadoxLXbroodlord clear doesn't have beasts that ambush you fro mbehind if you're not careful :P
04:43.24BoltRTrue I guess, but that is assuming you don't keep and eye on the beasts :)
04:43.34ShadoxLXhehe
04:43.43ShadoxLXit's all quite intimidating and a lot to watch your first few times through ^_~
04:43.52BoltRYeah
04:44.36ShadoxLXthough it's not bad once you get it down
04:44.40ShadoxLXtakes all of 2-3 min to scamper through
04:44.46ShadoxLXthe worst part about it
04:44.48ShadoxLXis if people dc
04:45.10BoltRThen log back in during the fight? ;p
04:45.16BoltRYay never ending stream of bats
04:45.40ShadoxLXor if theyh're nubs and don't ask if they can come back in lol
04:45.43ShadoxLXand you get raped :(
04:45.49ShadoxLXor sometimes
04:45.55ShadoxLXyou have to stand around for 5 minutes while they log back in
04:46.17ShadoxLXwhile your tank on the bats takes 20% dur
04:46.21ShadoxLXjust from getting hit lol
04:46.22Gngskwell, if we kill thaddius this week we'll mostly be forced to kill heigan
04:46.30ShadoxLXhe's really not that bad
04:46.34ShadoxLXyou just have to stick together
04:46.37ShadoxLXand move quickly and together
04:46.40ShadoxLXand keep everyone alive
04:46.58ShadoxLXdon't be afraid to stay in one spot and keep tanking/clearing the same groups if you have to
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04:47.46BoltRYou can actually regen mana that way heh
04:47.51ShadoxLXyep
04:48.02ShadoxLXcan wipe the stuff sit and drink
04:48.04ShadoxLXhehe
04:48.07ShadoxLXalso have time to res and summon
04:48.26GngskI'll keep that in mind
04:48.31ShadoxLXbolt
04:48.34mjcwe just aoe half of it
04:48.35mjc:p
04:48.47ShadoxLXlol
04:48.54ShadoxLXwe do it in 3 AOEs
04:49.07ShadoxLX4 grubs bats + beast
04:49.09BoltRheh
04:49.10ShadoxLXthen up to the corner
04:49.14ShadoxLXthen to the back corner
04:49.36ShadoxLXwe have 3 or 4 people that DC every time so they just sit in noth's room then we summon them lol
04:49.46Gngskyea, we have a few of those
04:49.49Gngskfor fankriss tunnel
04:50.23Gngskahh, raids over. now I can get to my true passion, pugs on my priest!
04:50.43ShadoxLXwhat is your main?
04:50.46Gngskrogue
04:51.00BoltRThe best Fankriss tunnel was the time we somehow pulled the whole tunnel at once
04:51.07BoltRDon't know how it happened, but it was halarious
04:51.18BoltROnly lost like 3 mages too heh
04:51.19Gngskprolly a rogue who was stealthed ahead, got aggro and vanished
04:51.21ShadoxLXwe did it on purpose one time
04:51.31ShadoxLXwasn't too bad
04:52.01BoltRIt's just funny to see the whole zerg of bugs coming at you
04:52.05ShadoxLXindeed
04:52.10ShadoxLXi haev a screenshot of it somewhere...
04:52.13ShadoxLXlet me look
04:53.40ShadoxLXuploading
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04:54.39ShadoxLXhttp://shadox.dreamhosters.com/FankrissTunnel.jpg
04:56.14ShadoxLXvolley actually does damage for once!
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04:57.17BoltRheh
04:57.38ShadoxLXhehe
04:57.44ShadoxLXonly 1/9 CS in that pic :'(
04:57.51BoltR:(
04:58.22ShadoxLX6 now, and boy is that set bonus sweet hehe
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04:59.05BoltRThe 6 peice dreadnaught bonus is super nice too
04:59.10PlorkyeranIt makes you go from having to chug pots on long fights to barely needing them :P
04:59.29ShadoxLXindeed
04:59.31ShadoxLXi like finishing patchwerk
04:59.34ShadoxLXwoth like 60% mana
04:59.38ShadoxLXusing no consumables
04:59.50BoltRYeah heh
04:59.55ShadoxLXwith*
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05:00.32ShadoxLXWe have no chain scraps though
05:00.39BoltRReally? Wow
05:00.39ShadoxLXso it'll be a while before I can make any more gear =\
05:00.45ShadoxLXwe've been out constantly
05:00.50ShadoxLXwe've gotten almost 150 from other guilds
05:00.52ShadoxLXand we're still out
05:01.06PlorkyeranGet some attuned alts to farm trash :P
05:01.15BoltRI don't think we get alot, but I think 65% of our drops are warrior/rogue
05:01.16ShadoxLXtrade horde plate scraps :P
05:01.17PlorkyeranThree priests can do the ghoul packs
05:01.21BoltRand we manage to have like 300 plate scraps lol
05:01.31ShadoxLXH/A?
05:01.32ShadoxLXI'm A
05:02.17BoltRWhat kind of luck do you have for trash drops?
05:02.24ShadoxLX...
05:02.27ShadoxLX15 fire mage rings...
05:02.37BoltRWe have like 15 necro guards
05:02.40BoltRAnd almost nothing else
05:02.44ShadoxLXwe literally have 15 rings rofl
05:02.48ShadoxLXwarriors and druids and rogues have them
05:03.06BoltRLike 4 of those leather chests, which end up just geting DE'd
05:03.08ShadoxLXhmm like
05:03.09ShadoxLX3 or 4 servos
05:03.15ShadoxLX1 leather chest which a druid that gquit took
05:03.16BoltRWe have 1 servo
05:03.21ShadoxLX2 of the shields
05:03.23ShadoxLXa couple pauldrons
05:03.26ShadoxLXer
05:03.27ShadoxLX1 pauldon?
05:03.28ShadoxLXpauldron*
05:03.37ShadoxLXhmmm
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05:03.41ShadoxLX1 harbinger
05:04.14BoltRIt makes me feel a little better knowing i'm not in the only guild which gets 15 of one item, and not much else
05:04.23ShadoxLX9 pendant of forgotten names in a row
05:04.34ShadoxLXfrom maexxna
05:04.41BoltROof
05:04.52ShadoxLXin a fucking row
05:04.54BoltRI think we have only got 3 of those
05:05.13ShadoxLXa couple fangs
05:05.15ShadoxLX1 wraith blade
05:05.19ShadoxLXa few robes
05:05.41BoltRA few robes yeah
05:05.53ShadoxLXa few kisses
05:06.00BoltRWe have a few wrath, one fang, one kiss
05:06.05ShadoxLXwrath?
05:06.09BoltRwraith
05:06.12ShadoxLXah
05:07.17ShadoxLXgot sweet KT loot though
05:07.24ShadoxLXxbow
05:07.28ShadoxLXjust need like 4 more now :/
05:07.39BoltRBasicly all his loot is sweet though ;)
05:07.46ShadoxLXyeah
05:07.52ShadoxLXi'd pass the neck or cloak or whatever though
05:07.55ShadoxLXfor some xbow action
05:08.25ShadoxLXi'm still shooting a friggin huhu's
05:08.29ShadoxLXi need an ashjre or soulstring or something :P
05:08.49[Insom]FarnsHuhuran's stinger > Ash'rethul :x
05:08.53ShadoxLXno wai
05:09.02[Insom]FarnsBy 2-2.5 dps :x
05:09.13ShadoxLXno way =p
05:09.20ShadoxLXhuhu's gobbles autoshots all day long
05:09.29ShadoxLX=[
05:09.52[Insom]FarnsSo... you want a worse PVE weapon so you can hit 2 more max damage Aimeds in PVP?
05:10.02ShadoxLXbetter pve =p
05:10.25PlorkyeranHuhu's is barely an upgrade over Rhok
05:10.26[Insom]FarnsI'm so glad I can totally tell who has no clue about this game within 5 sentences of conversation.
05:10.39ShadoxLXlol
05:10.42PlorkyeranIt's only better than Ashjre if you use the bad math that ignores the aimed -> auto delay :P
05:11.06[Insom]FarnsUse 9 second cycle?
05:11.41Plorkyeran9 seconds makes you lose some autoshots
05:11.46ShadoxLX9 seconds w/ huhu?
05:11.49ShadoxLXyou crazy?
05:11.54Plorkyeran9.2 or so is the average optimal for Ashjre
05:12.19[Insom]Farns1 465 3 Huhuran's
05:12.19[Insom]Farns2 463 1 Ashjre'thul
05:12.27ShadoxLXhuhu's loses like 1/5 of it's autoshot damage very cycle
05:12.29PlorkyeranThose numbers use a bad model :P
05:12.30ShadoxLXlol grats on quoting bad math
05:12.48[Insom]FarnsAnd BC breaks everything
05:12.49PlorkyeranThey assume the autoshot after aimed shot fires instantly
05:12.51PlorkyeranAnd it doesn't
05:13.01ShadoxLXthe real problem wit that model there ploky
05:13.17ShadoxLXis that it doesn't using optimal cycling for each weapon
05:13.21ShadoxLXit bases them off of the same cycle
05:13.28ShadoxLXwhich is silly
05:13.31PlorkyeranYeah, there's also just bad math
05:13.34mjcyou all are tards
05:13.38ShadoxLXsince if you shoot an ashjre like a huhu's it blows
05:13.44[Insom]FarnsI'm waiting for my BC key >.>
05:13.45ShadoxLXand if you shoot a huhu's like an ashjre, it blows
05:14.32PlorkyeranWhich is why I tell bad hunters to just stick with Rhok, as using the wrong cycle with it isn't that far off from the optimal cycle
05:15.21PlorkyeranWhile the better weapons have a bigger difference between optimal and suboptimal
05:15.21ShadoxLXlatency makes it harder to use weapons with a 'perfect' cycle as well
05:15.30PlorkyeranNot really
05:15.44PlorkyeranAs long as you ping is consistant you can get pretty close
05:15.51ShadoxLXi didn't say it makes it impossible
05:15.54ShadoxLXbut it does make it more difficult
05:16.28ShadoxLXbut like you said, you learn to cope as long as it isn't spikey
05:16.53PlorkyeranIf it's spikey you just kinda lose, but that's true of most classes
05:16.58ShadoxLXyep
05:17.03ShadoxLXa rogue could pull it off I'd think
05:17.17ShadoxLXfor the most part they're under no time crunch as long as they're not ticking at full energy
05:17.38PlorkyeranTiming SnD perfectly helps a bit, but it's a pretty minor difference
05:17.49ShadoxLXmhm
05:17.56PlorkyeranIt hurts them a lot more in pvp, though
05:18.02ShadoxLXoh god yes
05:18.09ShadoxLXyou're running 5 yds in front of someone
05:18.16ShadoxLXtrying to back stab getting "i'm too far away"
05:18.35PlorkyeranIt's also basically impossible to stunlock someone with inconsistant ping
05:18.44ShadoxLXyeah, it's easy mode to slip through
05:18.55ShadoxLXthey have to be spot on
05:19.03ShadoxLXor it's not going to work if they're stunlocking an aware oponnent
05:19.07ShadoxLXopponent*
05:19.34mjckergoth: well it only half works, I can't get it to check out some of the libs right
05:19.41PlorkyeranWow, the Toxin Injector comments on thottbot is comedy gold
05:19.48Plorkyeran"Most hunters never realize that aimed shot is only efficient if you can't make other shots (e.g. arcane shot) more mana-efficient. If you can do that by having +spellpower (wait, what's striker's garb do?) and having insanely fast shots that NEVER get interrupted by an aimed shot...well then, your new 10-second shot rotation can pretty much floor the hell out of a MM hunter who specs like he's wearing Tier 1."
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05:20.09mjcheh
05:20.10kergothmjc: hmm, weird
05:20.16Plorkyeran"Actually, some hunters aren't so narrow-minded that they spec the same way they did for UD Strat. You can have a 10-second rotation without aimed shot...and for that there is no better weapon than this gun. Period."
05:21.02Plorkyeran"Fast speed = Bigger Aimed Shot and Multi shot hits."
05:21.04mjcPlorkyeran: stfu :)
05:21.10mjcspam is annoying
05:21.50ShadoxLXlol
05:21.55BoltRArcane shot for massive PvE damage
05:22.02ShadoxLXthat is hillarious
05:22.06BoltRGet your +spell damage gear gogogo
05:22.19ShadoxLXI'm building a spelldamage set
05:22.23ShadoxLXfor playing around
05:22.24ShadoxLXand sitting in IF
05:22.25ShadoxLXlol
05:22.35ShadoxLXi think I might be able to get the next preceptor's hat
05:22.48PlorkyeranIt's actually kinda nice for kiting things
05:22.52ShadoxLXindeed
05:23.14BoltRWell, it's hard to kite with an aimed shot ;p
05:23.19ShadoxLXi get the next claw of chromaggus also, I think
05:23.20ShadoxLXlol
05:23.36PlorkyeranYou can get at least one per 30 seconds with scattershot
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05:23.54PlorkyeranAnd conc shot/aimed shot from max range is sometimes safe
05:23.54ShadoxLXyou can aimed shot kite the WS demons
05:24.10ShadoxLXbut it so isn't worth the effort =p
05:24.31PlorkyeranUnless you're cheap and trying to use a few less arrows
05:24.36ShadoxLXlol...
05:24.47ShadoxLXoh well at least I saved 16 silver
05:24.53ShadoxLXbut if you were arcane shot kiting
05:24.58ShadoxLXyou could use the level 1 arrows =p
05:25.03ShadoxLXer
05:25.05ShadoxLXserpent sting*
05:25.32PlorkyeranBut with thorium arrows you get to farm negative amounts of gold per hour!
05:25.38ShadoxLXyeah!
05:25.53ShadoxLXlol i'm in burning steppes right now
05:25.56ShadoxLXkilling the elite dragonkins
05:25.58ShadoxLXwith icethreaded
05:26.18Plorkyeranice threaded aren't too bad
05:26.24Plorkyeranyou should at least break even :P
05:26.28ShadoxLXabout the same on my server
05:26.32ShadoxLXif you buy the mats at smart prices
05:26.42ShadoxLXexcept thorium have the pain in the ass factor
05:26.45PlorkyeranWow, that'd be nice
05:26.54ShadoxLX(i'm not eng =p)
05:26.54PlorkyeranThorium shells are 2g/stack on my server
05:26.59ShadoxLXwell
05:27.03ShadoxLXthe key there is not buying shells
05:27.03PlorkyeranMats are about 1.8g/stack
05:27.07ShadoxLXyuck
05:27.12mjcretarded
05:27.28ShadoxLXi made 18 slot bags the other day
05:27.39ShadoxLXbecause onyxia is a bitch and hates me
05:27.46PlorkyeranRelease day high pop server with a total of about 10 raid guilds
05:28.05PlorkyeranSo not much money leaving the economy
05:28.05ShadoxLXwhat server?
05:28.12PlorkyeranCenarion Circle
05:28.26PlorkyeranI'm hoping to get off it soon
05:28.31ShadoxLXisn't that an rppvp server?
05:28.39Plorkyeranrppve :P
05:28.41ShadoxLXew
05:28.44PlorkyeranHence the lack of raiding
05:28.44ShadoxLXdoesn't get any grosser
05:29.00ShadoxLXburning blade here.
05:29.21ShadoxLXstupid MSBT
05:29.26ShadoxLXi'm 20/31/0, don't tell me to counter attack
05:29.28PlorkyeranYeah, it was a mistake to roll there, but I'm not leveling another priest, so I was stuck there until server transfers
05:29.38BoltRRemove the event from it then ShadoxLX :/
05:29.45ShadoxLXi am going to do that right now lol
05:29.51ShadoxLXfirst time i've parried since I installed the new version
05:30.05BoltR<PROTECTED>
05:30.33ShadoxLXi know how to do it!
05:30.34ShadoxLXi just did
05:30.37mjcPlorkyeran: pve -> pvp isn't allowed atm, either
05:30.43ShadoxLXi was sad that it was mocking me :(
05:30.51ShadoxLXi miss my 0/21/30 spec :/
05:31.29PlorkyeranYeah, but at least I can move to a PvE server
05:31.30ShadoxLXmy pet is sick dps though... :P
05:31.44BoltRheh
05:31.46ShadoxLXlol did you see the thread on R&D
05:31.50ShadoxLXprolly a troll post
05:31.58ShadoxLXsaying their MT wouldn't attack highlord mograine
05:32.00ShadoxLXin the 4h fight lol
05:32.08ShadoxLXdue to RP reasons
05:32.22BoltRNow that is being in character
05:32.30PlorkyeranThere aren't any RPers fighting the 4h :P
05:32.35ShadoxLXhaha
05:32.45ShadoxLXgood luck RPing invisible void zones fuckers
05:33.14ShadoxLXthat shit is annoying btw =p
05:33.31mjcShadoxLX: so're you :)
05:33.33PlorkyeranCross-server BGs are a lot of fun with a RP server premade, though
05:34.12PlorkyeranWe beat up a premade from one of the brand new pvp servers entirly IC and walking just to annoy our two pickups
05:34.39PlorkyeranWhich was probably the first time half the people in the raid had ever RP'd :P
05:35.09BoltRIt's annoying playing WITH them
05:35.12BoltRThey give up so easily :(
05:35.19ShadoxLXmjc: you're mean! :|
05:35.33mjckergoth: hum, I think I can figure it out in a minute, soon as svkco is done
05:35.56ShadoxLX:'(
05:36.32mjcugh. wtf is so ram hungry atm
05:36.37mjc131M wired,  531M active
05:37.14mjcazureus is only using 100M or so, for 300 torrents. so what is it :/
05:37.37ShadoxLXrunning anything else?
05:37.39ShadoxLXdcpp?
05:37.59BoltR300 torrents? :/
05:38.04ShadoxLXlol
05:38.56ShadoxLXman i'm gonna pay for my arrows with roasted quail if these drops keep up
05:39.13BoltRhah
05:39.20BoltRBut then what will your pet eat!
05:39.26ShadoxLXall my roasted quail :(
05:39.34ShadoxLXbastard won't eat savory deviate delight :(
05:40.24PlorkyeranShould have stocked up on festival food
05:40.36ShadoxLXmeh
05:40.41ShadoxLXi don't have space for more stuff =p
05:40.53mjctards
05:41.26ShadoxLX:O
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05:42.21BoltRNot in a very friendly mood, are we mjc?
05:42.30ShadoxLXhe's been mean all night ;(
05:42.48mjctired of dealing with dicknoses all day
05:43.06pastamancerI really need to write a virtual-raid module for rosterlib
05:44.09pastamancerI don't suppose anyone's bored enough to create a warlocck on US/Durotan/Horde
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05:49.23Greywindwow i need to clean my desk off, i just stepped back and actually looked at it. i have like 6 beer bottles in a row lol
05:49.33Plorkyeran"Pets rock. With BM spec, my owl has 7000 hp, 9000 armor, and 160 DPS without ANY buffs."
05:49.37BoltRMy whole desk and area is full with them
05:49.47PlorkyeranThat's at level 63 with no TBC gear
05:49.52ShadoxLX.....
05:49.59BoltRSo, pets are the new tanks huh?
05:50.02ShadoxLXwtf
05:50.04ShadoxLXhe could tank loatheb =p
05:50.06ShadoxLXer
05:50.08ShadoxLXpatchwerk*
05:50.42BoltRCould do loatheb too technically ;p
05:50.47ShadoxLXya lol
05:51.08Plorkyeran315 defense would make loatheb interesting
05:51.35PlorkyeranAlthough you could probably get it over 10k hp buffed, as apparently pets get all of your buffs
05:51.47Greywindis the beta going on now?
05:51.52ShadoxLXhunters tank bc?
05:51.54ShadoxLXlol
05:51.54PlorkyeranAs of a few hours ago
05:52.13BoltRThere was the alpha too
05:52.27PlorkyeranNo more NDA is the important part :P
05:53.00ShadoxLXsigh
05:53.03ShadoxLXcan't stay up any later waiting...
05:53.04ShadoxLXhow lame
05:53.11ShadoxLXwoot
05:53.14ShadoxLXfound a travellers backpack
05:53.47ShadoxLXthigns are like 15g on my server since they nuked the farmers.. :/
05:54.02ShadoxLXalso if I could spell this late that'd also be good.  Traveler's*
05:54.18PlorkyeranMakes mooncloth bags actually worth making, though
05:54.20PlorkyeranSort of
05:54.32ShadoxLXmooncloth is 10g?
05:54.35ShadoxLXhow many do you need for mc bag?
05:54.38BoltRYeah, they used to be 4 on my server
05:54.44PlorkyeranOne and some other random stuff
05:54.49ShadoxLXah
05:54.55ShadoxLXi made 2 bottomless and got the AD bag
05:54.59PlorkyeranYou needed two until fairly recently
05:54.59ShadoxLXso i'm set on personal bags now
05:55.02ShadoxLXcan always upgrade my bank
05:55.50pastamancerfor the record, I <3 AceOO
05:56.06BoltRI should get the AD bag
05:56.19BoltRBut farming + prot = killing self
05:56.25ShadoxLXah = win
05:56.29PlorkyeranYou should be able to buy it for well under 100g if you have decent rep
05:56.46BoltRI'm full ex
05:56.53ShadoxLX12 mooncloth for each bottomless was shitty though
05:56.54ShadoxLX:|
05:57.04PlorkyeranThen it's only something like 5 of each token
05:58.20BoltR6 of each
05:58.32ShadoxLX6 of ea yeah
05:59.26BoltRI wonder what on the AH I could buy
05:59.30ckknightpastamancer, :-)
05:59.39ckknighthey all
05:59.42BoltRHellloo
06:00.21BoltRWow, bone fragments and cryptfiend parts are like 75 silver each
06:00.23Xuerianheya ckknight.
06:00.31ShadoxLXkeep in mind which isnignia you get
06:00.36ShadoxLXmost of them give you dawn
06:00.40ShadoxLXi think cryptfiend parts
06:00.40pastamanceroh, if you could see what I'm doing with grid
06:00.47ShadoxLXand...
06:01.00ShadoxLXfronds give you crusade (you can pick either with savage fronds)
06:02.02ShadoxLXso the real question is
06:02.05ShadoxLXdo I buy the 100g bank slot...
06:02.19BoltRI did, and i'm still full :(
06:02.27ShadoxLXi'm all full except that
06:02.28ShadoxLX:\
06:02.42PlorkyeranShould have bought that before bottomless bags
06:02.57Plorkyeran16 bank slots > 2 bag slots
06:02.57ShadoxLXi have plenty of gold
06:03.23ShadoxLXthough when you put it in perspective
06:03.31ShadoxLXit is somewhat silly to do that and not purchase the 100g bag slot
06:03.39ShadoxLXconsidering i spent probably 300g to get 6 spots
06:04.24pastamancerShadoxLX: that's what bank mules are for
06:04.31ShadoxLXcan't mule off soulbind items
06:04.32ShadoxLX=p
06:04.54pastamanceryou can mule off stuff from the other bank slots :p
06:04.57PlorkyeranI just use the mail instead of mules
06:05.08pastamancerI find it hard to believe that you have a bank full of soulbound items
06:05.22ShadoxLXI more or less do
06:05.29ShadoxLXi have a few spots to work with
06:05.30PlorkyeranI had a bank full of soulbound items for a while
06:05.37PlorkyeranDue to having 20 slots of dumplings
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06:06.01SlaymanWho da man ?
06:06.37PlorkyeranMost of the non-soulbound items in my bank are things like BoE resist items I've never actually needed
06:06.46ShadoxLXlooking at my bank right now
06:06.48ShadoxLXi have 104 slots
06:06.53ShadoxLX99 have something in them
06:07.03ShadoxLX95 are soulbound
06:07.23Slaymanhow many bag spaces bought what size of bags stuffed in them ?
06:07.35ShadoxLX5/6 of 6 slots all 16 slots
06:07.45Slaymanneat
06:07.56ShadoxLXyou missed the first part of the convo, slayman heh
06:08.09Slaymanright sorry 'bout that
06:08.24PlorkyeranI've never really understood the reasoning behind the herbing bags, though
06:08.27ShadoxLXi should turn in my  spire spider eggs for the pet
06:08.33ShadoxLXi have one of the 24 slot bags
06:08.35ckknighthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32159762&postId=321675452&sid=1#0
06:08.36PlorkyeranWhat's the point of a bag that can only hold non-soulbound things?
06:08.39ShadoxLXit is actually pretty nice for mass herbing
06:08.40ckknightplease voice your support
06:09.02ckknightit's regarding allowing the updating of secure frames on PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED / RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE
06:09.05Slaymani have a pretty decent collection of pets, still missing some of the best ingame :(
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06:09.36pastamancerGroggles: wherever you are, bless you for still being in my test raid even though you've been offline forever
06:09.54PlorkyeranThat's abusable by just having someone join/leave every second to rearrange frames
06:10.34ckknightPlorkyeran, but highly unlikely, since it's such a bitch to do
06:10.41ShadoxLXway too much effort lol
06:10.54PlorkyeranIf you fixed the lag issues with it, it'd be trivial to script
06:10.55ckknightAnother large point is that if you have 40 members in your raid, if one player leaves/disconnects, the player at raid40 becomes raid39. If you try to heal her, you'll be healing raid40, not raid39 which she recently became, so you'll be in effect healing nil, which can cause horrible, horrible problems.
06:10.56ShadoxLXif you need emergency monitor so bad that you'll have someone dedicated to spam leaving/joining the party
06:10.59ShadoxLXthat's weak sauce =p
06:11.00pastamancerI'd hate to have to keep all 40 (25) frames in Grid active, just waiting for someone to join the raid while in-combat
06:11.17pastamancerI was planning to queue the RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE until combat ended
06:11.25PlorkyeranThe person joining/leaving could just be a random level 1 alt
06:11.38ShadoxLXSlayman: I like my "Captured Flame" pet
06:11.48ShadoxLXmy point still stand, plorky
06:12.03Slaymanthat one i have too, but i missed the Q peedo thingy he's Awesome !
06:12.14ShadoxLXpeedlefeet guy?
06:12.20ShadoxLXor..?
06:12.26Slaymantruesilver shaft item
06:12.29ShadoxLXya
06:12.31PlorkyeranThere's a lot of terrible players
06:12.41ShadoxLXpeddlefeet or whatever, the goblin cupid thing
06:12.43PlorkyeranIt'd be worth the effort for a guild that only has terrible healers :P
06:12.55ShadoxLXmeh well they're not going to get anywhere anywa
06:12.57ShadoxLXso who cares =p
06:13.02SlaymanShadoxLX: Yupp, i missed that got got no luck on my packages
06:13.10ShadoxLX:'(
06:13.35ShadoxLXmy favorite pets are Speedy
06:13.38ShadoxLXand my Flame
06:13.50ShadoxLXi think they're actually the only ones I have
06:13.57Slaymani have all the winterpets, but non of the whelplings and haven't done the quest for fairy dragon yet
06:13.58ShadoxLXI was never much into going and doing those non combat pets
06:14.09ShadoxLXthe sprite darter?
06:14.11Slaymani too chose speedy :D
06:14.16ShadoxLXSpeedy is the best
06:14.19Slaymanyeah
06:14.24pastamancerMr. Whiskers > *
06:14.28ShadoxLXlol
06:14.32ShadoxLXMy wife chose Whiskers
06:14.38ShadoxLX:|
06:14.43ShadoxLXSpeedy is winner.
06:14.44Plorkyeran5g > *
06:14.47PlorkyeranOr however much it was
06:14.49Slaymani mean he's a rat who would chose a rat?
06:14.52pastamancerhaha, Plorkyeran
06:14.57ShadoxLXShe felt sorry for the rat lolol
06:15.05ShadoxLXso she picked it
06:15.12pastamancerI couldn't have a turtle or pig following my undead priest around
06:15.15Slaymani know someone she might feel sorry about too
06:15.29Slayman(don't take the above 2 serious plz)
06:15.37ShadoxLX:o
06:15.48ShadoxLX./stabbitystabstabstab
06:15.49ShadoxLXlol
06:15.50Slaymani felt it was funny
06:15.55ShadoxLXlol
06:16.00Slayman~whalecover Slayman
06:16.01purlACTION stuffs Slayman in a carcass of a rather immense whale formerly known as Walter
06:16.10ShadoxLX....
06:16.12ShadoxLXwtf
06:16.20ShadoxLXexcellent
06:16.40Slayman?-?
06:16.48ShadoxLXi don't suppose onebag has a way to partition your bank space up does it?
06:16.55ShadoxLXwith an additional mod?
06:16.58ShadoxLXer
06:16.59ShadoxLXonebank*
06:17.10ShadoxLXi guess that would sort of be... counter intuitive for a mod named onebank
06:17.52PlorkyeranUse the twobank fork
06:19.14ShadoxLXinteresting
06:19.31PlorkyeranThat was a terrible joke
06:19.36PlorkyeranI think it's time to sleep
06:20.08ShadoxLXindeed it was
06:20.10ShadoxLXbut also
06:20.16ShadoxLXI would not put it past the dev community :P
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06:24.43hastemorning
06:24.57Slaymanhey there haste
06:27.48Greywindok tutorial is finished, how does it look guys? http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners
06:28.15Greywindanything i need to clarify or change?
06:29.44ShadoxLXg'nite
06:31.26hasteoh, so that's how Tortoise looks
06:31.27Slaymanone of you know's the link to the superfly flash movies?
06:31.55XuerianLooks good, Greywind.
06:32.43Greywindthanks, I'm terrible at making tutorials >.<, took me forever to do that
06:33.02GreywindI had to think of each and every step hehe
06:33.30Slaymanso elkano ur from germany too, cool :D
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06:35.04hastehaha, I turn on find herbs in hintherlands, and I get nine spots on my minimap
06:35.48Slaymanwoohoo! grabbing a demo of "Anno 1701" possibly known to you as "1701 A.D." hopefully a great successor to a great series
06:36.20Greywind1701 a.d.? wassat?
06:36.58Elkanosuccessor of "1602 A.D." and "1503 A.D." ;)
06:37.16Slaymanelkano's correct
06:37.33steino_oO
06:38.06Elkanowell, I think I'm now going to remove WoW from my harddisk...
06:38.30Xueriano_o
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06:38.44ckknightwhy, Elkano?
06:39.49hastehalt, hammerzeit?
06:42.17Elkanowell, I've finnaly decided to replace deDE client with enGB
06:42.25Fisker\yeeees
06:42.26Fisker\yeeeeeeeees
06:43.03Slayman<- playing since release with the enGB client
06:43.21Slaymangot a real one on CDs lucky me :D
06:43.34ElkanoI've got mine on DVD :P
06:44.09Slaymandvd is too newskool
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06:45.09ckknighthow come, Elkano?
06:45.16ckknightlost pride in your native tongue?
06:45.25Elkanowell, I've downloaded the 1.9.4 trial client ^^
06:46.08ckknightthe beta client?
06:46.33Legorolgogo enGB client
06:46.45Elkanoor do you mean why I'm instaling enGB? Seeing all names changed into deDE (at least when TBC will be out) isn't what I want to be playing
06:46.59Elkanono, the trial client you can download for the 10day trial
06:47.04ckknightah
06:47.05ckknightI see
06:47.14Legorolwhich is incorrectly named "trial", since it's the full client :)
06:47.21Legorolonly accounts are trial, client is full
06:47.43Slaymaninsane
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06:48.35Slaymanmy problem today is where to get an original enGB TBC Client, ordered on amazon.de the german version, hopefully a torrent will be avaible asap
06:49.30Elkanowell, I hope I can lay my hands on the enGB CE somehow
06:49.40Slaymanor someone is trading mediums with me
06:49.54ckknightI really don't see what makes the CE all that better :-P
06:50.16SlaymanI'm no big fan of the CE, well the pet will be awesome i guess, but the rest is nothing of bigger worth
06:51.05ckknightright, you get the pet
06:51.10ckknightand those pets piss me off
06:51.13ckknightI'm like
06:51.23ckknightomg, you motherfucker, don't just watch me die, you asshole, fight!
06:51.29CartasI haven't seen anyone running around with a mini diablo/zergling/panda for ages. :O
06:51.57Slaymanwell i don't posses a CE so i will be fighting by your side most likely
06:52.03ckknightCartas, my brother has one cause he flirted with a storeclerk and she sold him a reserved collector's edition
06:52.10Cartas:O
06:52.17CartasHaha
06:55.23Elkanocool, some friends of mine won the 25 TBC beta keys :)
06:56.06Slaymanshare me one :D
06:56.19ThianaWhen is the abomination due for release? I thought it was Oct 31st, so isnt beta a little late at this point?
06:56.30XuerianI'd actually beg at this point, if I had any hope of being able to actually download the client....
06:57.24Slaymanall the dates until now are just the distributors best guesses no ETA
06:57.48Slaymanit'll hopefully hit the stores around xmas
06:57.52CartasSeptember the 29th!
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06:59.28Slaymansince blizzards philosophy changed big time we can count on the greedy managers they'll push it to be released for christmas business
06:59.54ckknight_when did their philosophy change?
07:00.18Slaymanat the point WoW became a phenomenon
07:00.48Slaymanand bill roper and others left for personal reasons
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07:08.46oxmando you know a fine map note addon ?
07:09.03CartasMetaMap!
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07:14.04oxmanthanks Cartas
07:14.20CartasWhen you use it, you might see it as somewhat bulky...
07:14.25CartasThat's your chance to ACE2 it!
07:14.51oxmanits not for me
07:14.53oxmanbut for a friend :)
07:15.04CartasYou could still Ace2 it though.
07:15.06CartasFor your friend!
07:15.10oxmanlol
07:15.27oxmanwow lots of directory for this addon
07:15.33Slaymanper law: "every workplace in southern tirol has to have a window" cool :D
07:17.19Slaymanwell MM incorporates Atlas, Atlasloot, mozzfullworldmap, mapnotes and some more so a lot of directories explain themselves
07:18.35CartasOh
07:18.40CartasJust delete everything, oxman
07:18.45CartasApart from the specific modules.
07:18.56CartasAnd then Ace2 it.
07:18.58oxmanI've select : Metamap, BKP, CVT, WKB
07:19.00CartasThanks.
07:19.05oxmani think i only need that
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07:24.23Greywindgod i wish people would check the damn wiki before plying me with questions, I write up everything about my addons on the wiki for a reason
07:24.23Greywindler2wiki
07:24.23Greywinderr
07:24.23Greywindlern2wiki
07:27.17MikkGreywind: Unfortunately, too few people do that, so people aren't used to checking the wiki.
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07:27.36XuerianDoes the wiki search work yet?
07:27.37Slaymanjust put the wiki in their faces
07:27.50oxmanMetaMap don't show the note on the minimap, do you know an addon to do that ?
07:28.08Slaymanu can set them to show on minimap oxman
07:28.21Slaymancreate one
07:28.27oxmanno i've try
07:28.31oxmanand i see no option to show
07:28.34Slaymanand then in it's options something like show mininot
07:28.37Slaymane
07:28.48oxmanhum indeed
07:28.50Greywindi know but I purposly tell people to check the wiki when i post the addon
07:28.56Greywindso no excuses
07:29.06oxmanbut its wrong placed :(
07:29.15oxmanit don't change the position according to the zoom of minimap
07:29.21oxman:/
07:29.41Slaymandunno
07:30.00Slaymanafai can remember it worked perfectly well
07:30.24Slaymanbut the are always on the map if out of range, they are on the border of the map
07:32.34Greywindi wonder why search doesnt work on the wiki
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07:37.35Cartasoxman: That's why you should create it yourself, with Ace! :P
07:37.45oxmani don't make addon that i don't use
07:37.54CartasI'd use it :O
07:37.59oxmanme not
07:38.01CartasIs that not enough!?
07:38.04oxmanno :)
07:38.15CartasI'll be your loyal servant for eternity!
07:38.33oxmanthen ?
07:39.15Cartas... yeh...
07:39.41ckknight__Cartas, you make it
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07:44.37oxmanmapnote not work with the zoom of minimap too :|
07:44.43oxmanwhich stupid addon :/
07:45.13Elkanohopefully ammo's lib will do better
07:45.57oxmanand the point is very buggy when you move :/
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07:46.01oxmanit run around you
07:46.11oxmanwhats the name of his addon ?
07:46.16oxmanPinpoint ? something like that ?
07:46.17SH|ShabadorTekkub's standalonelibs doesn't seem to be working to good. :p Got a bunch of errors from a couple of mods looking for AbacusLib for one.
07:46.43SH|ShabadorEven though it's there. Might be the mod's themselves that are funky.
07:47.12oxmanyep its pinpoint :=)
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07:48.55CartasHmmm
07:49.09CartasWhat addon makes 'CoolDown monitor' appear in the centre?
07:49.29cr4zydora
07:49.37CartasAh, okay.
07:49.55CartasWho's cooldowns does it monitor? :O
07:50.04BoltRWarlocks/Druids
07:50.08BoltRPaladins maybe?
07:50.14CartasOh.
07:50.16CartasShaman also.
07:50.45steino_Rebirth, soulstone and ankh
07:50.51steino_iirc
07:51.46SH|ShabadorShould start monitoring innervate as well imo. ^^
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07:54.05Elkanooxman, iirc PinPoint is planed as a gatherer replacement. but the code for map/minimap is most likely going to be put into a seperate lib
07:55.38oxmanactually PinPoint isn't usable
07:55.38oxman;p
07:56.31[Ammo]oxman, don't talk crap about PinPoint
07:56.43oxmanactually PinPoint is a big big crap
07:56.43oxman;p
07:56.50[Ammo]it works, but limited atm
07:57.01oxmanI've try manually registerpoint
07:57.10oxmanthen the point don't move according to the selected region :D
07:57.14[Ammo]ofcourse not
07:57.26[Ammo]because that part of the code isn't done
07:57.34oxmani've use _RegisterPoint method ;p
07:57.36oxmanok
07:57.36oxman:)
07:57.47[Ammo]it shows points of the current zone your character is in
07:57.53oxmanI know :)
07:57.54[Ammo]if you change the worldmap there are no hooks yet to update it
07:59.04ckknighta little birdie told me that the WorldMapFrame is "secured" now. Similar to how CastSpellByName() and such have been.
07:59.06ckknightI don't know details
07:59.19ckknightby now, I mean in TBC
07:59.23oxman:)
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08:00.32Thianackknight: Ok why on earth do they feel the need to secure WorldMapFrame?
08:00.40ckknightMozzFullWorldMap
08:01.01[Ammo]ckknight: but I should be able to overlay stuff on it right?
08:01.05ThianaThats the one that unhides unexplored areas?
08:01.14ckknightI don't know details
08:01.30ckknightyes, Thiana
08:01.45CartasThat's the most stupid addon ever :P
08:01.54ThianaAt this rate we're going to have to sign forms in triplicate to cast a spell :/
08:02.36oxman:p
08:02.39ckknightwhy, Cartas?
08:02.41ckknightI like it
08:02.47CartasWhy? :o
08:02.54ckknightI like knowing where stuff is
08:02.59CartasOh, it shows you places?
08:03.04ckknightyes.
08:03.04CartasOr, just how it looks on the map?
08:03.10CartasOh
08:03.15CartasI'm glad Blizzard aren't letting people use it.
08:03.24CartasLazy people who can't be bothered to find things themselves.
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08:03.46ckknightyou mean, when my higher character has discovered a whole map and my lower level one doesn't have it shown
08:03.50ckknightsituations like that?
08:03.54CartasCorrect.
08:04.02ckknightI like knowing where things are.
08:04.08CartasYou should know where the places are then, if your higher character has been there.
08:04.09ckknightinstead of having to guess
08:04.21ckknightbut Bliz doesn't work that way, Cartas
08:04.24Mikkit's just silly though. i just go to some website.
08:04.35Mikki did on my first toon. i still do on my alts.
08:04.35CartasHm?
08:04.42ckknightMikk, I really don't like alt-tabbing on my slow laptop
08:04.48CartasYou're too lazy to check your other characters' maps if you want to find the place that way?
08:04.56Mikkyes
08:05.00Mikkthat takes forever
08:05.02Mikkit's just bloody annoying
08:05.05CartasOr you could do it the way where you just search for it :P
08:05.10Mikkhaving said that, i don't use any addon to tweak my map
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08:21.15KemayoAw, man.  If WorldMapFrame is secured that'll mean I can't resize it any more, no?  ;_;
08:21.29oxmanmaybe
08:21.30oxman:p
08:22.31Galenciaof course you can
08:22.33Galenciajust not in combat
08:22.59Kemayo...who would want to do anything to WorldMapFrame in combat?
08:23.52Wobinomg "Earthquake!"
08:24.05Wobin*shake worldmapframe*
08:24.56MikkDepends what they mean with secured?
08:26.08ckknightI don't know details, just what a little bird told me
08:26.23ckknightI believe it was to prevent MozzFullWorldMap
08:26.29ckknightbut I don't have any real idea
08:26.32oxmanwhat does this addon ?
08:26.55ckknightoxman, it shows undiscovered parts of the map
08:28.20oxmanoh well, its bad
08:30.10oxmanhum...
08:30.18oxmana french web site have get his key for beta test
08:30.29oxmani'll try to contact them to do some test with the new API
08:30.35oxman(a big french web site :p)
08:31.35oxmanthere is many phase
08:31.45oxmanthe first is to play blood elfves between 1 and 20 level
08:31.56oxmanthen the draneai with the new zone of outerland
08:32.24oxman2 go of data with the downloader of blizzard
08:32.27oxmanGB sorry
08:34.22Elkanoextract the torrent and use the programm of your choice ;)
08:34.28oxman;p
08:35.08oxmanmany big french guild have get two key
08:35.15oxmanhum sorry, many key
08:35.16oxmannot two :)
08:35.56Mikkoxman: draenei don't start in outland
08:36.06Mikkoutland is very level60+
08:36.10oxmani know
08:36.18oxmanabout the beta test, no NDA at all !
08:36.28oxmanso we'll know exactly what's the new API very soon
08:36.28oxman:)
08:38.16Mikkif eternally777 shows up, toss him http://81.233.236.26/epgauge_logo.png http://81.233.236.26/epgauge_icon_32x32.png and http://81.233.236.26/epgauge_icon_32x32.tga
08:38.44evlWhat state is epgauge in?
08:41.07oxmanI ask the link for the torrent to a french friend which have a key
08:41.16oxmanThen I can use winmpq to understand the new api =)
08:47.05Kebinusannice logo mikk
08:48.24evlas in, does epgauge work? :P
08:49.04evl!trunk EPGauge
08:50.43KalamadiWhat is meant by "secure templates"? Is an alterable targetting function (OOC) able to be registered with the game so it may work?
08:51.57KalamadiVILLIAN
08:51.59oxman:p
08:52.22KalamadiBut, yeah. Secure templates.
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08:53.17oxmanno one here have the link to download TBC ?
08:53.47KalamadiUh. I think you'd have some way to if you were in the beta
08:53.57KalamadiBut, otherwise, you'll have to obtain a hard copy when it's formally released
08:53.58oxmanI'll have the torrent link this day
08:54.08oxmanI now some french with a key :)
08:54.14KalamadiD:
08:54.16KalamadiTell me more.
08:54.20oxmanNo problem I only want extrat the data to look the API
08:54.30oxmanKalamadi you're in europe ?
08:54.42KalamadiNo >_>
08:54.43oxmanThe europe beta test is open (but restricted)
08:54.51oxmanlots of french guild have receive key this morning
08:56.23KalamadiFrom my side of the water, the NDA has been lifted on alpha and beta testing has begun...seems they're on the same schedule in both regions
08:56.48[Ammo]quick question
08:56.58oxmanno NDA, a friend with a key have said that
08:57.28[Ammo]if you suffer damage from 'corrupted blood' in hakkar fight, that's when he drains right?
08:57.34[Ammo]and you don'thave the poison
08:57.36Galencia[Ammo]: no
08:57.39[Ammo]ok
08:57.40Galenciaer
08:57.43Galenciawait
08:57.47[Ammo]I need the damn trigger for when you don't have the poison
08:57.57oxmanno trigger :)
08:58.01KalamadiIt's timed
08:58.06Galenciacorrupted blood is the shadow dot thing, i think
08:58.10Kalamadi90 seconds, starting from first aggro
08:58.10oxmanyou must have the debuff when hakker drains your life
08:58.18Galenciayou are missing what he means
08:58.21[Ammo]Kalamadi: I know
08:58.29[Ammo]but there is a message as well when you don't use sons
08:58.33[Ammo]and just outdamage the drain he does then
08:58.36Galenciai think he is intending to add a OI IDIOT YOU DIDNT GET THE POISON, to the bossmod
08:58.37[Ammo]I need that trigger
08:58.42[Ammo]no
08:58.43yacoobckknight, you there?
08:58.48Galenciaor similar :)
08:58.50[Ammo]because that would be strategies
08:59.00[Ammo]I intend to fix the bloody trigger for people who don't use sons
08:59.18Galenciaah
08:59.19oxmanYou get a debuff when hakker drain you
08:59.26oxmanhakkar
08:59.28Galenciastrange people..
08:59.35[Ammo]not very strange
08:59.53[Ammo]I have a transcript: http://www.g-ball.com/wow/ui/other/Transcriptor-hakkar-ghaz.lua
09:00.00[Ammo]but not sure its in there
09:01.12[Ammo]it's a timed ability, but it's not exactly 90 seconds :)
09:01.19[Ammo]close to though
09:01.22Wobinrofl
09:01.23Wobinhttp://www.school-house-rock.com/wav/prea.wav
09:01.23GalenciaPoisonous Blood is the thing you get from the sons
09:01.27Wobinoh those americans
09:01.29Wobinso whacky
09:01.31Galenciacorrupted blood is the shadow dot you get from hakkar randomly
09:01.34[Ammo]yeah
09:01.53[Ammo]hakkar suffers from blah blood siphon
09:01.59[Ammo]is the trigger for when he gets hurt
09:02.10[Ammo]now I just need the trigger for when he heals
09:02.14[Ammo]instead of hurts
09:02.34Galenciai think, sadly, its the same name
09:04.14Galencia[Ammo]: is there anywhere in that transcript where someone is giving life to hakkar?
09:04.32[Ammo]no, thus I think it's another event not monitored by the transcript
09:05.17Icerothor the ppl who did hakkar and gave you the transcript were bloody perfect and nobody missed the poison?)
09:05.31Galenciathat's possible
09:05.37[Ammo]could be
09:05.39[Ammo]but I doubt it
09:06.03Icerothaye.. mt and the mind controlled person don't usually get it
09:06.21Galenciabut you might not be able to differentiate it on others
09:06.42Galenciaanyway, i think the ability has the same name, just a different icon
09:06.53[Ammo]well that would work fine
09:07.00Galencia[399] = "<20:16:30> Hakkar gains Blood Siphon. -[spell_perCbuffs]-",
09:07.09oxman:)
09:07.16Galenciai think thats from a successful drain
09:07.24oxmani think too
09:08.36Galencia[1124] = "<20:18:32> Hakkar gains Battle Shout. -[spell_perCbuffs]-",
09:08.36Galencialol
09:09.46Icerothyea it's also nice when witchhunt goes "Random Mob gains Leader of the Pack"
09:09.53Galencianah its not, he gets that buff whether its sucessful or not
09:09.58Galenciaseems like the following:
09:10.08Galenciayou always get blood siphon, as does hakkar
09:10.32Galenciaif its successful, you get "hakkar suffers x dmg from your blood siphon", if you failed, you get "you suffer x dmg from hakkar's blood siphon"
09:10.51Galenciaand the only real difference is the direction, and the icon
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09:15.36[Ammo]so I could change the trigger to (.*) suffers
09:15.39[Ammo]instead of Hakkar suffers
09:15.57Galenciaperhaps, that isnt present in that log, though
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09:25.21KalamadiHey, [Ammo]?
09:25.45[Ammo]yeah?
09:26.38KalamadiCould you quickly explain which event is fired when a certain unit gains "aggro" (that is to say an enemy is targetting them)
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09:27.31[Ammo]no event is fired
09:27.42[Ammo]but... BanzaiLib fires events for you!
09:27.43[Ammo]so use that
09:27.55KalamadiNeat.
09:28.17KalamadiI was sorting through the wowwiki API listing and thought to myself, "wait, what?"
09:33.25Grey|awayhopefully that will be an event in 2.0
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09:34.57KalamadiAlright, so I'm picking through Squishy to better understand; on the priority update loop, the boolean array u.banzai is checked; so unitid.banzai is updated by Banzai-1.0, right?
09:35.17vhaarryes
09:35.25KalamadiAwesome.
09:36.23vhaarrAlternatively, if your addon doesn't use RosterLib, you could get an instance of Banzai-1.0 and do :GetUnitAggroByUnitId or :GetUnitAggroByUnitName.
09:37.10KalamadiAye, that's what confused me; those weren't called, so I didn't know how Squishy was getting aggro status
09:38.00KalamadiHowever, since I'm writing a module for Grid, I can use the functions of the libraries which Grid uses, correct?
09:44.33Kalamadi~seen pastamancer
09:44.35purlpastamancer is currently on #wowace (5d 19h 43m 28s). Has said a total of 114 messages. Is idling for 3h 29m 23s, last said: 'I couldn't have a turtle or pig following my undead priest around'.
09:45.59KalamadiHrm. I don't know if Grid will be defining buff/debuff statuses on its own, and thus have variables I can check, or if I'll have to run my own loop :/
09:59.26Wobinso
09:59.33[Ammo]CIA has gone MIA?
09:59.38WobinWhat's with this silithyst mounds?
09:59.46[Ammo]you grab em
09:59.50[Ammo]run to your camp
09:59.52[Ammo]can't mount
09:59.56[Ammo]and deliver them
09:59.57[Ammo]for glory
09:59.59[Ammo]or somethig
10:00.16Wobinoh camp
10:00.19Wobinmeh
10:00.29WobinI'm on my way to a raid no time for going to camp!
10:00.57steino_gives damage buff!
10:01.32KalamadiI thought it gave a rep buff.
10:01.33Wobinps
10:01.38Galenciarep buff is for winning
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10:01.41Galenciagetting 200 turnins
10:01.45WobinWhat's the glowy red stone at the entrance to AQ20?
10:01.48KalamadiAh. Well, sod that either way
10:02.06Angerisits for the scepter quest wobin
10:02.11Wobinaha
10:02.38Angerisstarts with bloodlord's head from bwl
10:02.52Angerisor broodlord
10:05.09KalamadiNo, it starts with Marileth of the Shifting Sands in Cenarion Hold >_>
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10:07.35KalamadiNeebler!
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10:14.56Neeblerhi
10:16.43DarkImakunihi Neebler
10:21.10KalamadiI hate when things don't work right >_< I'm trying to build scite and it's not working
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10:37.23[LS]AliziaMorning.
10:37.28[LS]AliziaErrh, afternoon ^^
10:37.38vhaarrugt
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10:37.50[LS]AliziaI have really come to hate blizzard downloader..
10:37.57KalamadiWhat happened?
10:38.00[LS]AliziaMaking me download 2.13 GBs through that is...not fun.
10:38.04[LS]Alizia:/
10:38.26[LS]AliziaI wish someone actually put up a normal mirror with it.
10:38.54DarkImakuni2.13Gbs?
10:39.00KalamadiEh, that's not too bad. I've spent the last three hours learning how to be a code monkey
10:39.23[LS]AliziaKalamadi: hehe
10:40.22[LS]AliziaI guess you have a point there ^^
10:40.34[LS]AliziaBut...Still. Gief mirror plx ^^
10:40.45[LS]AliziaStarting to feel a pain in my stomach after moving away from the fiberline.
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10:40.51[LS]AliziaAnd onto this ADSL jippo.
10:40.57DarkImakuniwhat the hell are to you downloading?
10:41.05DarkImakuniTBC?
10:41.11[LS]AliziaThe beta client, yes.
10:41.41[LS]Aliziahehe
10:41.56[LS]AliziaAlltho, this ADSL line should give me around 700kb/s...
10:42.01DarkImakunizomg gief beta
10:42.08[LS]AliziaBut...instead...it jumps around 40-60..
10:42.12KalamadiA bunch of people here are going to bother you about testing out addons under the new API
10:42.23[LS]AliziaThats fine :)
10:42.28KalamadiWoot!
10:42.30[LS]AliziaIf I can contribute that way, I will.
10:42.31[LS]Alizia:)
10:42.43KalamadiAnyway, BRB. I recompiled fluxbox, so I have to restart X
10:42.49[LS]AliziaI am not one of those code monkeys tho, so would be nice if I could actually be of some help. ^^
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10:45.05KalamadiI am back.
10:46.22[LS]Aliziawb.
10:46.28[LS]AliziaNot sure if you saw this:
10:46.29[LS]AliziaI am not one of those code monkeys tho, so would be nice if I could actually be of some help. ^^
10:46.46KalamadiYeah, I saw that :D
10:47.03KalamadiI'm just learning, but I'm adamant about it, so. I'll be of some help.
10:47.15[LS]AliziaNow..I just need to hassle someone with a nice line to download the client.
10:47.19sbumah, giev beta key :/
10:47.21[LS]AliziaAnd put it somewhere I can get it.
10:47.21[LS]AliziaxD
10:48.16KalamadiI can get 600 kb/s downstream on this connection
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10:48.29KalamadiAnd I have no problem with upstreaming, though that'll cap around 60 >_>
10:48.38[LS]Aliziahehe
10:48.42[LS]AliziaThat would be about the same as me.
10:48.52[LS]AliziaBut, peer to peer works reeeally bad here.
10:49.02KalamadiI see
10:49.07[LS]AliziaEven tho I`ve opened the ports needed in both routers, in the firewalls and such.
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11:11.53Kebinusanhmm
11:12.31KalamadiAlright...time for ramen noodles and soda
11:12.47KalamadiI'm about to delve into something I have no idea how to deal with: Kernel compiling
11:12.58KebinusanAnyone getting errors with the latest prat from svn?
11:16.38DarkImakuniDoesn't look like it :P
11:17.03KebinusanYeah I think its my fault, I ditched !!!Libs and forgot to download externals first
11:17.25Kebinusanhmm still giving me errors though :-/
11:17.35Laricworkremembered to quit though?
11:18.00Kebinusan[2006/10/12 07:16:13-855]: Prat\Prat.lua:26: attempt to call method `SetModuleMixins' (a nil value)
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11:18.19KebinusanYeah, seems something isnt loading proper
11:18.22Kebinusangrr
11:18.29Laricworkacelibrary it looks like
11:18.33Laricworkoutta her ethough
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11:25.00KebinusanThis is weird, its like prat, xloot, and simpleminimap all kick up similar errors like AceLibrary wasnt loaded or something
11:25.07Kebinusanbut only those three
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11:25.44Kebinusanhmm ah
11:29.09Kebinusanhm nope, still boggled
11:37.15KebinusanKinda weird that only a few addons are having this problem:  http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8529/errorth5.jpg  Any ideas?
11:38.36KebinusanSeems like the root cause is something with SetModuleMixins
11:38.38Kebinusankinda weird
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11:42.01KebinusanAnyone around with some ideas?
11:47.17Grey|awayomfg we are finally getting a lfg tool in BC
11:47.27KalamadiLFG tool?
11:47.31oxmanreally !???
11:47.34oxmanlook for group
11:47.40Grey|awayaye
11:47.42oxmansomething like call to arms ?
11:47.53Grey|awayi guess so, trying to find pics now
11:48.23oxmanok i wait :)
11:48.34Kalamadi[LS]Alizia there is in the beta =3
11:50.18Grey|awayomg and balance gear too!
11:50.37Grey|awaymy druid just had an orgasm
11:50.47oxmanbalance gear ?
11:51.44Grey|away+spell crit and +spell dmg leather
11:51.54oxmanok
11:52.04KebinusanSo weird that only three of my addons would be puking errors
11:52.19Grey|awaylol a portable mailbox, gogo engineers :P
11:52.29KebinusanGrey|away, seriously?
11:52.33oxmanin TBC Kebinusan ? :|
11:52.43Grey|awayaye seriously
11:52.46Kebinusanoxman, no just wow
11:52.52oxmanfor anyone Grey|away ?
11:52.52Kebinusanhttp://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8529/errorth5.jpg
11:53.24KebinusanWhen I first load the game, Simpleminimap, prat, and xloot bitch like that... but if I reloadui they go away
11:53.46Grey|awayhere is some info by beta testers in this thread http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32209682&sid=1
11:53.47SlaymanGrey u didn't know?
11:53.47Slaymanwith the 2nd Addon there comes a portable Bank, if u then build and combine Repbot, mailbot, and bankbot
11:53.47SlaymanU'll get
11:53.47SlaymanHYPERULTRAMEGAZORD (sort of a paladin that is actually doing lots of dps)
11:53.55KalamadiGrey|away: Where are you getting this information?
11:54.06Grey|awayofficial forums
11:54.29Grey|awaynow that beta testers dont have an NDA, info is a pouring
11:54.44Grey|awayim looking forward to the 5 man instances
11:55.22KalamadiDire Maul had a low drop rate on good gear, though
11:57.11KalamadiI've done DM-W two dozen times and have never seen Mindtap Talisman drop :<
11:57.43Grey|awaydoh looks like twinking aint going anywhere *sigh*
11:57.58DarkImakunitwinking?
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12:00.12KalamadiDarkImakuni: Yeah. Equipping an enchanting a lower-level character to utterly squish the competition on PVP
12:00.26Kalamadis/an/and/
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12:01.16DarkImakuniI see
12:01.39DarkImakuniI always wondered what that meant! Thanks :)
12:02.08Grey|awaydamn straight im twinking my BE
12:02.20Grey|awayI'm already storing items :P
12:02.30DarkImakunihehe me too :P
12:02.32Grey|awayand preparing my enchants
12:03.03DarkImakuniI need to play as my Horde alt more :(
12:03.07Grey|awaywell imma go to sleep cya all
12:03.12DarkImakuninn
12:03.31DarkImakuniMy Horde alt is a level 14 Tauren Druid :P
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12:05.52Josh_Borkehola!
12:07.05DarkImakuniyo
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12:20.25oxmanwhat's the name of the addon to have one window for each whisper ?
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12:22.06MikkAFKchatr? forgottenchat?
12:22.16oxmanthanks
12:22.43Mikk(i _think_ so -- i haven't used either. just seem to remember something along those lines from screenshots)
12:22.51oxmandoes it work with french version ?
12:22.58Mikkno idea
12:23.29oxmanok thanks
12:23.57Wobinhehe
12:24.01Wobindoing Ossirian nekkid
12:24.23Wobinwho knew rogues were that buff?
12:27.27DarkImakunilol eww :P
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12:34.10Neeblerhttp://www.peterdorsi.com/archives/2006/09/world-of-warcraft-tier-4-set-pictures/
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12:34.29Neeblerthe top 4 class sets are the best looking imo
12:34.39Neeblerpaladin one is decent too
12:35.08Neeblerrogue/war/priest/mage ones look like rehashed current armor sets
12:36.45Neeblerhttp://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3093/epicsmq7.jpg
12:36.46Neeblerhar
12:37.54DarkImakunihehe
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12:45.16[Ammo]who is Fenlis on the svn?
12:45.24[Ammo]this is the second time he breaks oRA2 on the same line
12:45.58hastetime to stab
12:46.07[Ammo]yeah
12:46.19[Ammo]it's the bloody gimp language people again
12:46.25oxmanlol
12:46.35oxman[Ammo] I recommand that :
12:46.49oxmanput before the line  -- Fenlis STOP BREAK THE LINE, ASK ME ON IRC BEFORE -Ammo-
12:46.57[Ammo]hmm god idea
12:46.58oxman:p
12:47.14MikkWtf? A mage suit that doesn't look utterly silly?
12:47.40Wobin[Ammo]: Which language? o.O
12:48.09Mikkones other than english i presume
12:48.19[Ammo]the gimp languages
12:48.23[Ammo]koKR, zhCN
12:48.35MikkAh those gimp languages
12:48.43MikkThe ones that have more players than the US :-P
12:49.07[Ammo]I don't give a shit
12:49.23[Ammo]this is the second time he broke that exact line
12:49.43MikkOh, I don't mean that. Go ahead and apply the clueby4 for all you're worth as far as I'm concerned =)
12:50.06Wobin[Ammo]: please don't call them that.
12:50.26WobinDeride Fenlis, sure, but some of us here aren't natively english either =P
12:50.27[Ammo]I will stop calling them that the moment they stop breaking my code continuely
12:50.30oxman:p
12:50.36WobinSo don't paint us all with the same brush
12:50.36[Ammo]I am not native english either
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12:51.27MikkThis IRC channel is now about cookies.
12:51.46[Ammo]next time I'll just strip all non english locales from oRA2
12:51.50[Ammo]and tell them to code their own junk
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12:52.07[Ammo]because having to deal with this kind of shit is happening over and over again
12:52.25WobinAcelocale should only break if the language that's broken is the one on the client
12:52.32MikkSome people should apparently not have SVN access, that's the whole problem.
12:52.33[Ammo]it's not an acelocale problem
12:52.37[Ammo]he touches other parts of my code
12:52.40[Ammo]not only the locales
12:52.42[Ammo]that's the problem
12:52.44WobinIs it a bad touch?
12:52.49[Ammo]yeah
12:52.53[Ammo]it breaks the whole addon
12:52.53WobinShow me on the doll
12:52.58Mikkhaha
12:53.02[Ammo]line 490 of Core.lua
12:53.09[Ammo]he removed the special S there
12:53.12[Ammo]in the string.find
12:53.12oxmanthe problem is the permission "w" for all addons when you've access to the svn
12:53.17[Ammo]so every character gets replaced by an S
12:53.26[Ammo]which fucks up all addon communication for ORA2
12:53.26oxmanthe author of addon must have an option to say "write open for all"
12:53.30oxman"write open for x,y,z"
12:53.31[Ammo]and in turn stops it from working
12:53.33oxman"write open for me"
12:53.34[Ammo]he's done that before
12:53.35[Ammo]and he did it again
12:53.40[Ammo]and it's pissing me off greatly
12:53.51[Ammo]so great that I am really considering stopping support for all nonenglish locales
12:53.59[Ammo]and just remove Acelocale
12:54.01[Ammo]and hardcode it all
12:54.05Neeblerrofl
12:54.06Wobinhm
12:54.17oxmanstupid [Ammo] :p
12:54.17WobinMaybe you're not quite getting through to him
12:54.21add\\LeialynIs this perfect raid or agUF here? http://www.myteam-o.de/other/Interface.jpg
12:54.25WobinSince he can't understand english =)
12:54.25Neebleryou're a funny guy :P
12:54.32[Ammo]read my last post on the oRA2 forum
12:54.39[Ammo]if that doesn't get through to him nothing will
12:54.45[Ammo]I'm utterly fed up
12:54.52oxmanaguf add\\Leialyn
12:54.53NeeblerLeialyn: that's ag_UF
12:54.57oxmanyou can see that with header
12:54.58oxman:)
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12:55.17Neeblermmm I love clean lines in interfaces
12:55.22add\\Leialynhumn ...
12:55.43NeeblerPost from slouken:
12:55.43Neebler<PROTECTED>
12:55.48mjcmy whole house is cooler cause of this heatsink :)
12:55.57NeeblerI wonder who in here will be on that list
12:56.03[Ammo]Cide is Iriel is
12:56.09oxmanVERY VERY FINE Neebler !
12:56.14oxmanSlouken the best.
12:56.15oxman:)
12:56.24NeeblerI don't follow oxman
12:56.41NeeblerI'm just posting something that was said :P
12:56.49add\\LeialynI like his combatlog :D
12:56.55mjccirk?
12:56.58add\\Leialyn@the screen
12:57.12mjcthey totally integrated fastcast
12:57.13NeeblerI like my combatlog~! built into the unitframes
12:58.04Wobinhm
12:58.12Wobin[Ammo]:  I don't think Fenlis reads the boards
12:58.27Wobinhe hasn't logged in since july
12:58.36DarkImakunilol
12:58.44Neeblerpurple:  I want to take a moment to thank those authors in the Alpha who have been contributing feedback, suggestions, and in some cases code to help the addon community. You'll find some of their names in the addon support code in the game, and others in the credits for the Burning Crusade.
12:58.54Neeblerfucking bitch, copy and paste error
12:59.01Neeblersorry
12:59.42Josh_BorkeNeebler: combatlog built into the unitframes?
13:00.38VII|Behehi there
13:00.50Neebleryes, my massive unitframes that are wedged into the bottom section of the UI. Purple: http://neebler.tetro.net/ui.jpg and Blue: http://neebler.tetro.net/scl.jpg
13:01.06VII|Beheanyone know who the programmer of swstats and healorganizer is? and maybe if they are in irc
13:02.16Josh_Borkeswstats is not an ace addon so he probably doesn't hang out here :-)
13:02.35VII|Beheah so true
13:02.39VII|Behe:D
13:02.49VII|Behethis addon is just annoying me
13:02.55NeeblerBehe: http://forums.sw-stats.com/
13:02.56Josh_Borkeand according to the healorganizer wiki page, the heal-organizer author is Progman
13:03.14VII|Beheit changes the combatlog and inserts a " " space between some things
13:03.28VII|Beheso my wws stats get crashed
13:03.58VII|Behethx borke
13:03.58Josh_Borkeare you sure it's healorganizer?
13:04.09VII|Behena the " " space insertes is swstats
13:04.18VII|Behei wanted to request a feature for healorganizer
13:04.26KebinusanHmm, since people are alive, any idea why only three of my addons keep spewing crap like this on game load this morning: http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8529/errorth5.jpg
13:04.27VII|Beheand just wanted to talk to the author
13:04.44ThianaNeebler: What is the 'm- o-' on your fubar panel?
13:04.57Josh_BorkeKebinusan: are you using !!!Libs? did you make sure everything was up to date?
13:05.15KebinusanJosh_Borke, not using !!!Libs and everything is up to date
13:05.24MikkKebinusan: Missing optdeps in those libs?
13:05.26NeeblerFuBar_WeaponRebuffFu
13:05.28Wobinwow, the words are so spaced out on your ui keebls
13:05.37Wobiner neebls
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13:06.05Kebinusanmikk, yeah they all have Ace2 as optDep
13:06.18KebinusanOnce the game is loaded if I reloadui they go away though
13:07.39SH|ShabadorMoneyFu doesn't like it when you take away it's embedded libs and load them seperatly it seems "FuBar_MoneyFu\MoneyFu.lua:3: Cannot find a library instance of Abacus-2.0."
13:08.32DarkImakuniKebinusan: sounds like some of your externals may be missing/not loading properly/borked
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13:09.12SH|ShabadorUsed Tekkub's pack, updated via WinAceUpdater.
13:10.20DarkImakuniSH|Shabador: all the seperate library addons are LoD now. to fix, add AbacusLib as an opt dep
13:10.53KebinusanDarkImakuni, yeah I did a fresh check out of prat and xloot
13:11.06KebinusanI'll try only loading prat by itself I guess
13:12.23SH|ShabadorDarkImakuni, thanks, worked. ^^
13:12.40SH|ShabadorSeems I'll have to put CompostLib somewhere as well.
13:13.20VII|Beheif i undock the editbox bar in Prat, after every ui reload / loadscreen the editbox bar position is resetet
13:13.20DarkImakuni:D
13:13.20VII|Beheis this problem known/solved?
13:13.20KebinusanVII|Behe, do you use confab as well?
13:13.27VII|Behenot more
13:14.18VII|Behecould this be confab settings that are still in wtf?
13:14.23Kebinusannah
13:14.44KebinusanI had something like that when I first tried the undocked thing and for some reason my editbox module was toggled off or something, I dont quite remember
13:15.20VII|Behemhm i will take a look
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13:22.40DarkImakuni~wake CIA-17
13:22.42purlACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on CIA-17 and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
13:23.43Kalamadi~seen pastamancer
13:24.01purlpastamancer is currently on #wowace (5d 23h 22m 54s). Has said a total of 114 messages. Is idling for 7h 8m 49s, last said: 'I couldn't have a turtle or pig following my undead priest around'.
13:24.14Kalamadi=(
13:25.13Kebinusanhmm, I love when Ive been trying to figure that problem all day but when I disable all my addons and re-enable them I cant duplicate it :-/
13:32.42KalamadiI'm still trying to figure out if Grid will fire debuff/buff events for modules to handle, or if modules have to find this information on their own
13:33.05KalamadiI don't know what the standard for these things is.
13:35.23Mikk"standard"? =)
13:35.55Mikk(in other words: ask the author =))
13:38.59KalamadiMikk: pastamancer has been gone for 8 hours and maia isn't...here
13:40.05JensI've pushed sleep deprivation induced headache into a new dimension.
13:40.56DarkImakuniouch
13:41.02Jens"But why don't you sleep?" I hear you ask...
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13:41.22JensBecause I've worked 16 hour shifts three days in a row now...
13:41.36DarkImakunivery ouch
13:41.40WobinI hope you're getting paid worthwhile amounts for that =)
13:41.41JensFor once my lack of sleep is actually caused by having no time to sleep :/
13:41.52JensSomeone please kill my boss.
13:41.53DarkImakunisue them :P
13:42.02DarkImakuni~nuke Jens' boss
13:42.03purlACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at Jens' boss ... B☢☢M!
13:42.25JensWobin: Pay is decent, but I'd rather work less and earn less. I can't handle this mentally or physically.
13:42.33Wobin=(
13:42.39JensFortunately, I have three days off now to recover.
13:42.39Wobinwhat are you doing?
13:42.44JensElectrician.
13:42.58DarkImakuniO.o
13:43.10Wobin16hr shifts?
13:43.14JensInstalled... what's it called... lysrørsarmatur... at a new supermarket.
13:43.29Wobin"Thingies"?
13:43.29JensThose long glass tubes that light up... what's that?
13:43.35Wobinflourescent lights
13:43.37Wobintubes?
13:43.39JensYes, those.
13:43.55DarkImakuniI'm a computer technician and I only work 10am to 5:30pm... god I feel your pain :(
13:44.13Wobinhehe man, Dark, you have it lush =P
13:44.15JensLast thursday I worked from 5:00 to 21:00, friday 7:00 to 20:00.
13:44.23KalamadiIs there a library for sorting applicable debuffs? Like recognizing that warriors don't need to have Viper Sting or Ignite Mana removed.
13:44.41WobinI'm an 8:30-5 person
13:44.53KalamadiI've no obligations. It's nice.
13:45.05Wobinexcept for the lack of money =)
13:45.13DarkImakuniWell I'm still an apprentice... I assume my hours will increase when I'm taken on full time
13:45.28JensI'm also an apprentice.
13:45.35KalamadiAnyway. Library for applicable debuffs.
13:45.53KalamadiThere are some lines in the beginning of Detox which'll give you an idea of what I mean
13:45.57JensI do the same work as the others, but earn 50% less or so.
13:46.10JensWithout overtime payment.
13:46.17DarkImakunithey shouldn't be letting a youngster like you work such unholy hours :(
13:46.47JensThe week after next one, I'm back in school for 10 weeks.
13:47.05JensSchool from 8:10 to 15:30 is going to be like a holiday.
13:47.07KalamadiI'd huggle you and tell you everything's alright, Jens, but you're a long way away.
13:47.13Jens:B
13:47.26add\\Leialynckknight__ ?
13:47.43JensDuring those 10 weeks, I plan to look for another apprenticeship, and tell my boss to blow it out his ass.
13:47.56Royalhttp://img331.imageshack.us/img331/5118/imageaspxfm2.jpg < Bottom right, which fubar plugins are that between VolumeFu and ClockFu?
13:48.00DarkImakunigood idea :)
13:48.42DarkImakuniRoyal: TransparencyFu, FontSizeFu, and SpacingFu, now obsolete
13:48.53KalamadiYeah, what he said.
13:49.12RoyalDarkImakuni, thanks, that clears things up :)
13:49.22DarkImakuninp :)
13:49.52KalamadiPastamancer is going to get a fork to the face when he gets back. Mainly because I'm young and impatient.
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13:51.06KalamadiReally wish I knew if Grid fired an event, like Grid_UnitGainDebuff(unitid, debuff type)
13:51.47KalamadiActually, debuff name could potentially be on there, too.
13:52.15KalamadiOh well. Enough theorycrafting without the original developers around
13:53.11Josh_Borkei odn't know if maia has the module system defined concretely yet
13:53.44KalamadiI think pastamancer is more intimate with that part of the addon
13:55.19KalamadiThough I am coming up with a lot of ideas left and right... I might want to write this stuff down =o
13:55.46Josh_BorkeKalamadi: and yea, i think you're right
13:56.11KalamadiJosh_Borke: pastamancer pointed me in the direction of his proposed API post yesterday afternoon
13:56.38KalamadiHowever, how the addon will behave innately and how it will respond to various modular calls is foreign to me
13:57.04KalamadiMoreover, I don't have a starting clue as to how I'll be able to create a Dewdrop configuration menu from inside a module
13:58.39Kalamadi*sigh* It's like I'm on the cusp of potential.
14:05.37mjckergoth: ping
14:06.22Mikmai'm bored
14:06.32Mikmaand i seem to have fucked up popsicle :D
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14:06.45KalamadiI'm giddy in anticipation of which I can potentially begin doing.
14:06.56Kalamadi:O!
14:09.43Mikmaand i don't know how to fix it. huzzah
14:10.07DarkImakuniwhat seems to be the problem, Mikma?
14:10.15KalamadiHrm. How many important status effects are there in game? Magic, Poison, Disease, Curse, HoT, aggro, weakened soul, low mana, low HP, soulstone...?
14:10.30MikmaDarkImakuni: popsicle doesn't seem to remember the chatframe to use
14:11.01Neeblerhttp://www.ravenillusion.com/LeaveittoLammy/WoWSS/TSU.jpg
14:11.04Neeblerhardy har har
14:11.22KalamadiYeah, that's a good one
14:11.30KalamadiI'm just waiting for The Movable Object
14:11.39KalamadiMaybe a Lei of the Lifetaker
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14:13.48Mikmaffs
14:13.56KalamadiEh?
14:14.01Mikmai'll make a timer for the check
14:14.05Mikmathere, problem solved. :=
14:15.08DarkImakuniMikma: why are you asking Popsicle to run an empty function on AceEvent_FullyInitialized? :)
14:15.31DarkImakunido you plan to add stuff there?
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14:17.53MikmaDarkImakuni: i am, propably :)
14:19.20MikmaCommitted revision 13722.
14:19.24mjckergoth:     "FubarPlugin-2.0": "//wowace/trunk/FuBarPlugin-2.0",
14:19.29Mikmai committed a new version and it didn't get announced :(
14:19.43[Ammo]grrrr
14:19.56[Ammo]I just spend almost an hour fiddling with bugs introduced by silly chines and korean people
14:20.06[Ammo]both of them seperately messed things up
14:20.11[Ammo]in different parts of oRA2
14:20.22mjcremove commit access?
14:20.27Mikma[Ammo]: aww, *carehug*
14:20.39Wobinammo, you'll have less stress if you do just that
14:20.51Wobinget clad to remove their access
14:20.55Wobinto those files
14:21.08WobinThen when they complain, you can tear them another one
14:22.23Wobinanyway
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14:22.30Wobinnight
14:22.39DarkImakuni~bye Wobin
14:22.40purlno
14:22.46DarkImakuni?
14:22.47Wobin=\
14:22.55Wobin~literal bye
14:22.56purl"bye" is "<reply> bye bye || <reply> cya || <reply> l8tr"
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14:26.08mjc~whalepunch wobin
14:26.23mjcblah
14:26.26mjc~whalehelp
14:26.42mjc~neronix
14:26.55Kalamadi>_>
14:27.36Josh_Borke~whaleslap mjc
14:27.38purlACTION beats mjc upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
14:27.46Josh_Borkelol
14:28.12mjc~whalestab Beladona
14:28.15purlACTION stabs Beladona with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
14:28.34Beladona~lart mjc
14:28.53mjc~lart Beladona
14:28.56Beladonathats a good one
14:29.14mjcBeladona: female or just literate?
14:29.18mjc:p
14:30.10Beladonaliterate
14:30.21mjcfigures :)
14:30.25Beladonaat least I don't think I am female
14:30.31mjchaha
14:30.34NeeblerA new mechanic is being introduced with the release of the expansion that will visually indicate to a rogue that a monster is able to detect or see through stealth.
14:30.35Beladonamy wife seems to agree
14:30.35Neebler:O
14:30.47mjcNeebler: yay
14:31.08Beladonayeah, think "Splinter Cell"
14:31.09Gngskthat sux
14:31.27Gngskwas always a good way of knowing if a rogue was any decent if they knew which mobs could see through stealth
14:31.42DarkImakunilol Bela :P
14:31.51mjcknowing which mobs can see throughstealth does not equal dps
14:33.03Neeblerdamnit, why is it that every time I get the urge to write a meaningful and insigntful forum thread on rogue dagger talents vs sword, it's way past my bed time, and  I'm far too tired to write a semi-coherant thread then
14:33.33mjcNeebler: because nobody cares. it's personal preference
14:33.38Neeblernot like I'd write a good one being wide awake. boy I wish I were a writer
14:33.49Gngskmjc, true but it equals brain
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14:33.53Neeblerno one cares?! have you played a rogue every day for the past year like I have?
14:34.02mjcyep
14:34.05Neeblerwe have to spend 8 talent points to make daggers viable
14:34.21Neeblerand sword rogues can use those points on whatever they want
14:34.30steino_i've played a rogue since retail release
14:34.30Neeblerso its obvious. I'm going swords for expansion
14:34.31steino_:O
14:35.16mjcNeebler: I have T1 daggers, and mostly T1 gear, and I've been able to easily outdps naxx-geared sword rogues
14:35.19mjc:)
14:35.24mjcas in, every single one of them on my server
14:35.35Neeblerthey're morons then
14:35.44Neeblerand don't use slice and dice
14:35.50Neebleror arn't combat spec
14:35.52steinoYou have to spec like.. 29 in combat to make swords viable ^^
14:37.32steinoAs dagger spec, you will totally destroy sword specced rogues in PvE
14:37.39steinoIf you spec/gear right that is
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14:37.42pastamancerKalamadi: Grid addons will have to watch for their own events
14:38.45Neeblerno, you wont totally destroy sword rogues in pve
14:39.02steinoProve me wrong
14:39.08steinoI do it every day
14:39.29BeladonaI tend to agree with that, and I am unbiased being a warrior. I am going by outside observance of grouped rogues
14:40.08NeeblerI'm too tired to have any discussion right now, maybe late tonight
14:40.25steinoMy main argument is that backstab scales a lot better then sinister
14:41.08Neeblerand mine is that dagger rogues have to spend 8 extra talent points that sword rogues dont have to, just to make daggers worth while
14:41.20steinoi have 31 in combat
14:41.26Neeblerwhen dagger and sword rogues do very similar damage in pve
14:41.29steinoi dont see why those 8 points will hurt me? :)
14:41.46Neeblerin BC, it means huge differences in new talent builds
14:41.54Neeblerand availablity
14:42.05Neeblerand availablity of choices.. accidently hit enter early
14:42.32steinothe rogue bc talents is a joke imo :<
14:42.43mjcsteino: www.pvp.net.tf
14:44.31steinoi want the 41 talent in combat
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14:47.08Kalamadipastamancer: Hail! You are back.
14:47.42Kalamadipastamancer: Will you be here long? There are more questions I'd like to ask.
14:48.00pastamancerI'm actually about to go to work but I'll be back in 20 minutes
14:48.10PX_Hakkerkrapz I update dpubcrawl and the whole became foks0rd :(
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14:49.10PX_Hakkertalk to yourself more pliex :P
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14:51.10PX_Hakkershould be possible mjc
14:51.29mjcwb ckknight
14:51.40PX_Hakkerpubcrawl is such a damn great idea.... but it's still too damn unstable and such :(
14:51.55PX_HakkerI had it working once... was happy as hell and now I broke it again :(
14:52.54pastamancerKalamadi: did you get the /msg I sent you?
14:53.30pastamanceroh well, off to work
14:56.49mjcbrb
14:59.32evlI upgraded Hostel and oCD and now all my candybars are ugly
14:59.46[Ammo]hahahaha
14:59.50DarkImakuniBantoBar.tga was nuked
14:59.58[Ammo]you shouldn't have complained about transparant bars then!
15:00.26DarkImakuni~mourn bantobar
15:00.27purlACTION lights some candles for bantobar
15:02.44Mikmawhy was it deleted
15:04.46[Ammo]I removed the bar.tga from candybar
15:04.52[Ammo]it was causing too much trouble
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15:05.07[Ammo]people complained about transparant textures et all
15:05.17[Ammo]so I removed it, and set the default texture to the blizzard statusbar texture
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15:06.51DarkImakuniI made a workaround tho: rename an existing bantobar.tga to UI-StatusBar.blp and place it in the relevent folders under Interface
15:09.18[Ammo]I am comitting a proper fix for oCD right now
15:09.23[Ammo]comitted :p
15:09.37[Ammo]<PROTECTED>
15:10.21[Ammo]hope haste doesn't mind :)
15:11.50[Ammo]oh and evl: get Antagonist instead of hostel
15:11.56[Ammo]combine with chronometer
15:12.06evlok
15:12.20evlbut I get the same ugly like default blizz candybar texture
15:12.22evlI want the old one
15:12.25evlthe flat one :)
15:13.49[Ammo]evl: you should have it with new oCD
15:13.54[Ammo]I just comitted fix
15:14.15[Ammo]and antagonist should have texture swapping place
15:14.19[Ammo]so you can select bantobar
15:14.45evlok :)
15:15.00evlnew winaceupdater is so sweet
15:15.03Galenciaantagonist is annoying
15:15.19Galenciano wait, chronometer is annoying
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15:15.34[Ammo]chronometer has issues with it's spell detection
15:15.44[Ammo]but those should be solved at TBC, or maybe earlier
15:15.48[Ammo]I could fix them for him
15:15.52[Ammo]but afraid to touch his addon
15:16.01Galenciathe issues are the default bar size/scale :)
15:16.06[Ammo]shrug
15:16.09[Ammo]you can set those
15:16.13Galenciaindeed
15:16.20Galenciahence my issue being with the default, not the bars :)
15:16.31[Ammo]hehe
15:16.43pastamancerKalamadi: back
15:16.50[Ammo]I tried giving CandyBars a nice clean default
15:16.58[Ammo]so you wouldn't have to change much
15:17.23evlMhm
15:17.26Galenciahe apparently does :p
15:17.27evlmost people
15:17.31evlwant the same texture all over
15:17.34Galenciabecause every other candybar mod has one size
15:17.42Galenciachronometer has.. a completely different size
15:17.44[Ammo](the default size) :)
15:18.00[Ammo]well ok oRA2 cooldowns is 25% less wide
15:18.10[Ammo]150 instead of 200
15:18.19Galenciaim more thinking of the height
15:18.33[Ammo]height hmm
15:18.38[Ammo]I think it's 20
15:18.40[Ammo]but it could be 16
15:18.58Galenciabigwigs and ora2 and antogonist all look the same
15:19.02Galenciachronometer looks tiny
15:19.05[Ammo]16 default
15:19.13[Ammo]height that is
15:19.30evlEvery addon has different
15:19.36[Ammo]no
15:19.38evlXRS = 155x15
15:19.43evloRA2 = 120x16
15:19.45[Ammo]xrs doesn't use candy :p
15:19.48evland spacing is different
15:19.57[Ammo]we're talking candybars
15:20.08evlah
15:20.11evlxrs should use em! :)
15:20.18[Ammo]he wanted to
15:20.26[Ammo]but he demands I implement a countermode
15:20.28[Ammo]or something
15:20.47Galenciacandybars should have some way of setting "system defaults"
15:21.01[Ammo]oh god no
15:21.05evlwhy counter mod
15:21.05[Ammo]can't do that
15:21.11Galenciaoh please yes :p
15:21.12evlcan't you just say run=false
15:21.15[Ammo]evl: because he counts stuff, like dead people etc
15:21.16Galenciai resent having to set up 100 mods
15:21.16evland setProgress(90)
15:21.53FtH|eaglenah, candy bars wouldn't be good for xrs
15:22.03FtH|eagleand you can change now the width evl
15:22.05[Ammo]they would only be useful in countermode or something
15:22.17[Ammo]and I haven't made that yet because I felt it totally not needed
15:22.24Galencia[Ammo]: why not though? :p surely i should only have to set bar texture/size once? :p
15:22.44[Ammo]no, it all depends on individual mod authors
15:22.47[Ammo]I made a library
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15:22.54[Ammo]not something else
15:22.54Ghentmorning all
15:23.03Galenciabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbut
15:23.12Kalamadipastamancer: Sorry for disappearing like that; my mother insisted that I have breakfast outside.
15:23.16Galenciacouldnt the library say, have GimmieDefaultBar(x, y)?
15:23.21[Ammo]galencia is the the N or the O you're not getting?
15:23.35[Ammo]:p
15:23.48Galenciaits the bit inbetween
15:23.52Galenciaperhaps you could explain it in more depth. :)
15:23.58Josh_BorkeKalamadi: you mean, like in the sun o.O
15:24.05[Ammo]sure NO NO NONONONONONONONONO NO NO and NO
15:24.10[Ammo]khtxbye
15:24.11[Ammo]:p
15:24.17Galencia[Ammo]: /cry
15:24.18KalamadiJosh_Borke: Yeah. Though the humidity kills me more than the heat.
15:24.42Galencia[Ammo]: no but seriously, couldnt you make it generic enough so that if mod authors wanted custom bars they just call something else? or um, something? :p
15:24.55Ghentammo, I'm sorry, I seemed to have missed what you were trying to say.... could you repeat it?
15:24.59[Ammo]euhm they already have to specifically ask for a different bar
15:25.00pastamancer*sigh* if AceModuleCore let modules inherit from other modules
15:25.13Kalamadipastamancer: There you are!
15:25.13[Ammo]pastamancer: SetModuleMixins?
15:25.36[Ammo]Galencia: if the author just says start this bar with this time now! they get a default bar
15:25.46[Ammo]and almost all addons just use that default
15:25.53[Ammo]it's chronometer who likes to be different
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15:26.02Galencia[Ammo]: ah. hmm.
15:26.07Galenciathen chronometer is bad!
15:26.09[Ammo]I should just branch his code though
15:26.09pastamancer[Ammo]: well, I have GridSort which implements an iterator and I want custom sort modules to inherit GridSort and then override a couple of functions
15:26.31Galencia[Ammo]: but i would like to be able to set that default somehow..
15:26.37[Ammo]pastamancer: you're already using modulePrototype ?
15:26.39Galenciaeven if it was a new mod i had to have to do that
15:26.44[Ammo]pastamancer: you could also read up on AceOO
15:26.51[Ammo]pastamancer: because AceOO can do what you want
15:26.52Kalamadipastamancer: I'm working on a custom priority to border module, and I was wondering several things
15:26.58pastamancer[Ammo]: http://kyle.13th-floor.org/wow/Grid/work/2006101103/Grid/GridSort.lua and http://kyle.13th-floor.org/wow/Grid/work/2006101103/Grid/GridSortByClass.lua
15:27.10Galencia[Ammo]: eg, when i set bigwigs to use "default" i want it to use smooth instead of bantobar
15:27.11Kalamadipastamancer: First: How many levels of priority are there?
15:27.21MikmaKalamadi: grid out yet?
15:27.22pastamancerI'm using AceOO, I wasn't sure if AceModuleCore could do what I need
15:27.32KalamadiMikma: Ask pasta, not I.
15:27.37[Ammo]AceModuleCore is a bit different
15:27.42pastamancerKalamadi: I'm going to say priority can be from 0 to 99
15:27.43KalamadiMikma: And, no. It's not on the SVN yet
15:27.58pastamancerit's not out or even really usable right now
15:28.07[Ammo]pastamancer = maia?
15:28.10Mikmawhy not? :P
15:28.14Kalamadipastamancer: Okay; is priority ascending or descending?
15:28.20pastamancermaia is on vacation for a couple of days
15:28.23pastamancerI'm working with him
15:28.28[Ammo]ah ok
15:28.41Mikmagief us beta
15:28.43[Ammo]checking your code now
15:28.58Kalamadipastamancer: I'm assuming descending, and that 0 means that the status is ignored altogether
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15:29.10Josh_Borkepastamancer: why not make priority 0-<num registered modules>?
15:29.29KalamadiJosh_Borke: Because one module could require a number of priorities for one element
15:29.32[Ammo]pastamancer: you should be able to make them inherit the functions
15:29.40[Ammo]but you don't want AceModuleCore for it
15:29.45Kalamadipastamancer: pastamancer: pastamancer.
15:31.03KalamadiJosh_Borke: The module I'm envisioning to write heavily involves prioritizing the border element
15:31.17pastamancer[Ammo]: oh, they're inheriting just fine, I wanted AceModuleCore's module option handling stuff
15:31.42pastamancer[Ammo]: and enable/disable module
15:31.48[Ammo]pastamancer: you'll have to write something nifty for that then
15:31.54[Ammo]pastamancer: check BigWigs for examples
15:32.04pastamancerKalamadi: let's say 99 is the highest prioirty and 0 is the lowest
15:32.21Josh_Borkeso modules will define the display logic in Grid?
15:32.47[Ammo]pastamancer: however you could just make a module, that handles the sorting, and have that one use an actual Sort() function that points to a sort function in the AceOO class
15:32.54[Ammo]pastamancer: if that makes sense
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15:33.09Kalamadipastamancer: What if two statuses of the same priority are defined for one unitid?
15:33.34pastamancerKalamadi: then the frame can decide what to do
15:33.45decihttp://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~kazk/img/wow/TBC/WoWScrnShot_101206_065923_1000truths.jpg
15:33.47[Ammo]so the module just implements the options etc etc, but the actual sorting is done ia the AceOO thing, however, an AceModule is also an AceOO instance afaik
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15:34.06[Ammo]so you could theoretically set the module to be a certain class as well
15:34.12Kalamadipastamancer: So losing one of the statuses would make the other status of the same priority appear, correct?
15:34.14pastamancerJosh_Borke: GridStatus modules send events to GridFrames which then decide how the event should be displayed
15:34.33pastamancerKalamadi: yeah
15:34.52Kalamadipastamancer: Awesome. My frame-only display is getting closer to fruitition =D
15:35.08KalamadiCould I potentially make a Dewdrop menu from a module?
15:35.08[Ammo]as AceOO supports multiple inheritance, it could both be an AceModule and a GridSort class
15:35.17[Ammo]if that makes sense pastamancer :)
15:35.31pastamancerhmm
15:35.36[Ammo]although I don't know the exact syntax
15:35.48[Ammo]so you could do: mySort = Grid:NewModule( .... )
15:36.00[Ammo]and then mySort:MakeSureThisInheritsFromSort()
15:36.07[Ammo]in pseudocode :)
15:36.07pastamancerso I could do something like GridSortByClass = Grid:NewModule(Grid.classes.GridSort)
15:36.15[Ammo]no entirely
15:36.19[Ammo]not entirely
15:36.27ag`[Ammo], AceOO supports multiple inheritance? I thought it only supported mixins.
15:36.47[Ammo]same thing isn't it
15:36.51[Ammo]you can mixin and override
15:37.09[Ammo]in practice it's the same thing
15:37.33[Ammo]I'm not entirely sure though
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15:37.51[Ammo]I'm just trying to hand pastamancer some new stuff to check out
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15:38.06[Ammo]the only one that can really answer this is ckk
15:38.09Kalamadipastamancer: Given that my module is so complex that it requires a Dewdrop menu, is it still feasable? If so, how would it be done?
15:38.10ag`[Ammo], with override you mean replace a method or..?
15:38.18[Ammo]ydah
15:38.20[Ammo]yeah
15:38.25ag`ok
15:38.25[Ammo]since that's what he wants
15:38.33pastamancerKalamadi: modules don't have options yet
15:38.43pastamancerbut they will
15:39.01pastamanceroh hmm
15:39.10KalamadiAlright, then. That's pretty central to the idea behind my frame priority :D
15:39.12pastamancerI see BigWigsMoam = BigWigs:NewModule(boss)
15:39.42[Ammo]pastamancer, the interesting part is in the core
15:39.42pastamanceroh, I wouldn't want a status module where the user couldn't decide the priority
15:39.42[Ammo]where we build the dewdrop
15:39.42[Ammo]or rather the options table
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15:39.57pastamancerI intend to steal as much as possible from Bigwigs :)
15:40.01[Ammo]haha
15:40.14[Ammo]don't let tekkub hear you!
15:40.16KalamadiAwesome, the conversation has shifted to something I can take part in! Whee.
15:41.00Gngskag`, what does 'show status icon' mean?
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15:41.45KalamadiSo...making option tables from within a module is possible, correct?
15:42.03pastamanceryeah
15:42.09KalamadiCool.
15:42.11pastamanceror rather, it will be
15:42.14Gngskhmm, seems it's the resting/combat icons maybe?
15:42.16[Ammo]Kalamidi: if it isn't, Grid won't be succesful :)
15:42.29Kalamadi[Ammo]: Aye.
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15:42.43cncfanaticsyo all
15:42.59KalamadiSo, by default, Grid won't have the capacity to highlight units with aggro or debuffs, etc, correct?
15:44.12pastamancerby default, the only event Grid will listen to will be the one from RosterLib
15:44.36KalamadiThank you; now I know for certain that there will be no conflicts
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15:45.51cncfanaticsKalamadi, u wanted to request some features for fb2 right ? now the first beta is out i'm taking requests :)
15:45.52KalamadiWhat I intend to do is make a list in squishy of important statuses; under each status is a range slider which allows you to specity a priority from 0 (thus being ignored) to the total number of statuses. Is this idea sound?
15:46.19Kalamadicncfanatics: Let me poke the beta a little first
15:46.40Josh_BorkeKalamadi: why not make each status a module and let Grid handle the priorities?
15:46.40KalamadiRather, a list in Dewdrop
15:47.02KalamadiJosh_Borke: Because some people care more about magic debuffs than aggro.
15:47.26Josh_Borkei thought that in grid you'd be able to decide which module has priorities
15:47.31cncfanaticsKalamadi, fine for me, but its rather limited atm , no grouping, and no slashcommands yet so u'll have to use /script, and no reacting on custom events either
15:47.56pastamancerJosh_Borke: modules don't have priorities, events do
15:48.15Kalamadipastamancer: I thought elements had priorities for display?
15:48.38Astronotanyone have a screenshot for buffalo?
15:48.40Kalamadicncfanatics: I'll figure it out :O
15:49.37cncfanaticsok :p its in the ace svn
15:49.44KalamadiWas about to ask
15:49.50cncfanaticsneed to fix some things in it while I think about it
15:49.57cncfanaticslibs aren't set as externals yet, didnt have the time
15:50.14KalamadiI've synced with !!!Libs, I should be okay
15:50.49Kalamadipastamancer: Your silence worries me :<
15:51.06cncfanaticshmmm, don't checkout a copy yet
15:51.09cncfanaticsi'll fix externals now
15:53.29ag`Gngsk, combat+resting
15:54.34Gngskunchecking 'show status icon' doesn't seem to keep the rest icon from showing
15:54.39Gngskworks for the combat icon though
15:54.57Gngskis there any chance you'd implement the MG2, glowing border style indicators at any point? I really prefer that to the icons
15:55.03cncfanaticshmmmm, got to remove and reimport fb2, hope CIA won't spam chan :(
15:55.04Kalamadipastamancer: I had interpreted what you said about priorities as visual priority for a specified element (category, in my case being "border"); thus, you could send status "Aggro" with priority 10, color red to category border and status "Poison" with priority 9, color green to category border. Thus, the border will remain red until the aggro status is lost, then it displays the green, etc.
15:55.20pastamancerKalamadi: Grid:StatusGained("Pastamancer", "DEBUFF", "magic", 50, color, text)
15:55.35pastamancerKalamadi: categories are not the same as indicator types
15:57.00Kalamadipastamancer: Wouldn't Grid:StatusGained(unit, element, type, priority, color, text) offer more flexibility?
15:58.19SH|ShabadorHow often does /files/ update, btw?
15:58.40[Ammo]it updates at every commit
15:58.43[Ammo]for that addon
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15:58.50pastamancerwhat if you wanted magic debuffs to show in the top left corner unless there was a disease debuff, in which case you'd want disease in the top left and magic in the top right
15:58.54SH|ShabadorAh, ok. Cool
15:59.13alkis_hello all :-)
15:59.22pastamancerI'd rather let the frame decide which indicator to light-up, if any
16:00.03DarkImakuniCIA is MIA :(
16:00.40Ghentcncfanatics, why do you need to remove and reimport? :o
16:00.45KalamadiI'm all for allowing defining where you want a certain status to show up, however. As a paladin dedicated to cleansing, you could potentially want the debuff priority higher than the aggro priority on the border element
16:02.27DarkImakunicheers Kemayo :)  missed that
16:02.41alkisis there an ace addon that replaces incoming heals?
16:03.22Kalamadipastamancer: Though one could potentially specify an element which emulates that same "stacking" behavior.
16:03.41Ghentalkis, replaces incoming heals?
16:04.14alkisdoes the same job i mean
16:05.04Mikma~msbt
16:05.06purlfrom memory, msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html
16:05.11Mikmaand HzHeal
16:05.18Mikmacan't remember the url tho :D
16:05.27decihttp://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~kazk/img/wow/TBC/WoWScrnShot_100306_232735_kargathloot.jpg
16:05.29decirofl
16:05.44Ghentalkis, I don't know what you mean by 'replaces incoming heals' though?
16:06.09pastamancerKalamadi: I'll consider letting events specify the indicator they want
16:06.25Mikmadeci: who da hell is that?
16:06.33alkisghent, does the same job. in other words shows incoming heals on your target so that you know if you have to cancel yours or not
16:06.45Ghentoh okay
16:06.50Kalamadipastamancer: Thank you.
16:06.59alkismikma, is mikords better than sct? never had any problems with it
16:07.04Ghentalkis, so what you want is a heal monitor
16:07.10Mikmaalkis: who knows :)
16:07.12GhentMSBT rocks
16:07.22Ghentbut it's not gonna do what you're asking for
16:07.39alkislet me check on heal monitor
16:07.47alkissee if that does the job for me
16:08.22alkisi started a new guild... just finished an addon for the dkp system and i want to start with no ctmods whatsoever
16:08.34Kalamadipastamancer: So indicators (elements, as I call them) could be Border, TopLeft, TopRight, BottomLeft, BottomRight, and AutoBox - the last of which would fill the first box of which it has higher priority.
16:08.41alkisand the only one missing is incoming heals ;-)
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16:09.52pastamancerKalamadi: the indicators aren't finalized
16:10.04Kalamadipastamancer: Aye, just pitching my ideas.
16:10.04decilol
16:10.04deciArtisan Riding- Requires lvl 70, Riding (225) allows the player to ride fast flying mounts that require riding skill of 300 5000gold
16:11.20alkisghent, probably mean healwatch?
16:11.23malreth5000 g's?
16:11.31deciyeap
16:12.12malrethIt's not enough!
16:12.29[Ammo]5kg?
16:12.31[Ammo]urgh
16:12.38snurrehttp://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~kazk/img/wow/TBC/WoWScrnShot_101206_065923_1000truths.jpg
16:12.49Ghentalkis, that sounds about right
16:12.54alkis:-)
16:13.01GhentI don't use one myself, but they're called heal monitors
16:13.05Kalamadi[Ammo]: Yeah, but 25-man raid bosses will drop, like. 2k gold each.
16:13.10Ghentthere's several different onces
16:13.12Ghentones*
16:13.48malrethsnurre: that has to be a photoshop
16:13.51Kalamadicncfanatics: I'm not sure how to go about doing anything yet :x
16:14.15cncfanaticsheh, well u shld get 120 buttons on ur screen shown basicly :p
16:14.21cncfanaticsthat have some neat features and can be moved around
16:15.07KalamadiOkay, right. How about showing/hiding and displaying the button #?
16:15.58cncfanaticsNot implented yet xD
16:16.18cncfanaticsand tonight is aq40 raiding night
16:16.35[Ammo]Kalamdi: ok so easy cash
16:16.35KalamadiSo it's not going to be implemented until tomorrow? :P
16:16.57Kalamadi[Ammo]: I'm just making that up to remind you that gold drops will probably be much larger
16:18.11pastamancerok, I actually need to get some work done at work so I'm going away for a few hours
16:18.26KalamadiAlright, see you.
16:18.39cncfanaticsjust setting up the svn correctly right now
16:19.23Ghentwas it incorrect before?
16:20.39alkiswhere is the best place to get addons? on svn zips or through wowinterface releases?
16:20.47DarkImakuniboth :P
16:21.12PlorkyeranApparently people that were focusing on quests got about 900g leveling 60-67
16:21.19Ghentalkis, the wowinterface releases tend to be 'stable'
16:21.28Ghenttested and work well with very little bugs
16:21.47Ghentthe svn releases may have new features but tend to have more problems as well, since they're not as tested yet
16:22.12alkiscool
16:22.12Kalamadicncfanatics: So; I presume making /commands for scaling and hiding of buttons is next on your list?
16:22.48alkisit seems that sometimes the versions in curse-gaming and wowinterface don't match... i will go with wowinterface since that's where most ace addons are 'officially' released it seems
16:23.13DrDre[12:19pm] 4·Plorkyeran4· Apparently people that were focusing on quests got about 900g leveling 60-67
16:23.18DrDrepeople already hit 67.... ?
16:23.45DarkImakuniDrDre: see above screenshot :)
16:23.55PlorkyeranThe people in alpha did
16:24.21Ghentwell, last I remember reading they want to charge 5k for the flying mounts
16:24.29Ghentso they don't want to make it too hard for people to get the money
16:24.54DrDrethats pathetic... of the expansion
16:24.54KalamadiI can't wait to see the huge PVP conflicts near the portal
16:25.02DrDrekinda makes me not want to even play it now
16:25.02alkis5k for 255 to 300... how about 150 to 255?
16:25.05KalamadiAnd then laughing merrily as I bubble up and run through
16:25.13Plorkyeran150 to 255 is only 500g
16:25.22Plorkyeranerr, 800g
16:25.31alkisthat's bizarre... since 75 to 150 is 700...
16:25.38KalamadiWait; what mount do you get at 225?
16:25.46Plorkyerancrappy flying mount
16:25.56Mikmadrama for today! http://www.sportbilen.se/index.php?page=blandat.php?id=338
16:26.00KalamadiLike, 60% bonus speed and flies?
16:26.09PlorkyeranSomething like that
16:26.15KalamadiOkay.
16:26.18alkisis the flying mount only 100% speed?
16:26.43PlorkyeranOn the ground, at least
16:27.15KalamadiAs I see it, the flying mounts have the same land speed as their superior and epic counterparts, but can also fly
16:27.40GhentI thought they went much faster
16:27.48Ghentbut they only work in the outlands
16:27.53Ghentcan't use them outside the outlands
16:27.58KalamadiLine of progression: Move fast -> Much faster -> Flies -> Flies much faster
16:28.33KalamadiThough, if you're a paladin...go go +28% movement speed, I think.
16:29.33cncfanaticsKalamadi: A lot on my list atm :)
16:29.40cncfanaticsbut slashcommands aren't a prio
16:29.45cncfanaticsthey're not needed to test the addon
16:30.08Kalamadicncfanatics: Well...how do I hide buttons, then? ;_;
16:30.27KalamadiI'll work on the slash commands myself if I knew how to get the end effect :P
16:30.52FiskerFUCKING YES
16:30.58FiskerWE WON THE FUCKING SCREENSHOT CONTEST WOOOOOOOO
16:31.04Fisker:P
16:31.11MikmaSS or it didn't happen
16:31.20cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
16:31.26cncfanaticsi'll make a short doc soon
16:31.37snurrewtb faster beta downloader :(
16:33.06cncfanaticshehe, same
16:33.08cncfanaticsdl'ing it too
16:33.10cncfanaticssooo slow
16:33.23cncfanatics12 kb/s ftl
16:33.35Azurewrathmhm... anyone know a good Mod like OneBank.. but without the OneBag dependency.. tested that "One large Bag layout".. can't live with it ;)
16:33.40Kalamadicncfanatics: So... /script Flexbar2.Frame.Button:Hide(); though not that.
16:34.16cncfanaticsnot at all
16:34.26cncfanaticsfb2 uses the object oriented framework of AceOO
16:34.29cncfanaticseach button is an object
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16:35.04Kalamadicncfanatics: I'm not that knowledgable ._.
16:35.15GhentAzurewrath, so you want to be able to check your bank remotely but you don't want 1 window with everything in it?
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16:36.11Kalamadicncfanatics: If you give me an example on how to hide button 1, I'd be all set ^_^
16:36.32hasteFisker: good, then you extract the interface for me
16:36.47cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
16:36.50AzurewrathGhent: right
16:36.51cncfanaticsthat wld do for button 1
16:37.00GngskAzurewrath, check out http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1699
16:37.20Kalamadicncfanatics: Okay, thank you.
16:37.48AzurewrathGngsk: i used Bankitems previously.. its not being developed anymore since several months and broke with nearly every patch...
16:38.02Gngskthere were patches on the jaslaughter forums, but they seem to be gone
16:38.11Azurewrathi did like the features though
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16:39.04Ghentthe all-in-one-window thing is really nice once you get used to it :o
16:39.17Arrowmasterwtb beta invite
16:39.19Fiskerhttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3687/sdiv9.jpg
16:39.53Josh_Borkelol
16:40.00Josh_Borkewhat's going on there?
16:40.11cncfanaticsgod, the beta downloads at 2kb/s when its not stalled (and thats 5sec every 10 minutes)
16:40.16AzurewrathGhent: i hate it somehow.. had my bags organized very well before.. :)
16:40.17CIA-1703fenlis * r13701 10!!!Libs/!!!Libs.toc:
16:40.17CIA-17!!!Libs:
16:40.19CIA-17- Synchronizing libraries
16:40.26CIA-1703cncfanatics * r13702 10FlexBar2/ (17 files in 2 dirs): FlexBar2: Initial import of the first Beta (limited features, no slashcommands yet)
16:40.36MikmaFisker: umh, you won what contest with that?
16:41.19CIA-1703jah * r13704 10BabbleLib/Babble-Boss-2.0/Babble-Boss-2.0.lua: Babble-Boss-2.0 : update frFR
16:41.19CIA-1703fenlis * r13705 10BabbleLib/Babble-Boss-2.0/Babble-Boss-2.0.lua: Babble-Boss-2.0 : Updated locals koKR
16:41.19CIA-1703ammo * r13712 10BigWigs/Extras/CustomBar.lua:
16:41.19CIA-17BigWigs:
16:41.20CIA-17* Sending of CustomBars is now throttled at max 2 seconds per unique bar (time + message)
16:41.22CIA-17* Incoming custombar throttle removed. This allows for multiple /bwcb or BWCB() in one macro.
16:41.24CIA-1703fenlis * r13713 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist : Fixed toc as ParserLib
16:41.26CIA-1703rabbit * r13714 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: BossBlock: Update hook usage.
16:41.28CIA-1703fenlis * r13715 10Chronometer/ (Chronometer.toc Core/Chronometer-Locale.lua):
16:41.30CIA-17Chronometer :
16:41.32CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:41.34CIA-17<PROTECTED>
16:41.39[Ammo]oh noes
16:41.42KalamadiRUN AWAY~
16:41.44[Ammo]CIA is back
16:41.54[Ammo]now my stupid commits will be there soon as well
16:42.18CIA-1703fenlis * r13716 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs : Updated koKR locals for option
16:42.18CIA-1703thisterhall * r13717 10XAD/Plugins/Mounts.lua: XAD - hopefully finally fixed the AQ20 mounts. Paladins and Warlocks can now use their summoned mounts via the keybinding or left clicking the button.
16:42.18CIA-1703wmrojer * r13718 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (4 files):
16:42.18CIA-17FuBar_GarbageFu : Changed initialization of Vendor and auction price addons to happen at AceEvent_FullyInitialized.
16:42.20CIA-17Added French translation.
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16:43.32Kalamadicncfanatics: I'll have those slash commands done in a little while :o
16:43.46cncfanaticsnot sure how i'll implement em yet
16:43.54cncfanaticskinda want modules to be able to set custom slashcommands too
16:44.30KalamadiThen I'll start the framework to mass hide/show, etc/
16:45.57cncfanaticswell, i'll probably convert my code to TBC as soon as I can login into beta
16:46.04cncfanaticsso ur code will most likely not work :(
16:46.24KalamadiI don't think that code's going to be affected
16:46.45cncfanaticswell, acedb-2.0 has errors in tbc
16:46.51cncfanaticswhich wasnt code expected to be prone to change either
16:47.28CIA-1703cncfanatics * r13738 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2.toc: FlexBar2: Added externals
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16:51.00cncfanaticshmmm, someone tell me how externals work ?
16:51.07cncfanaticsI just setted em up but they're not working :p
16:51.31Azurewrathwhat SVN client are you using?
16:52.00cncfanaticsjust plain commandline
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16:52.22CIA-1703bhattu * r13739 10Chronometer/ (Chronometer.toc Core/Chronometer.lua): Chronometer: never remove banish timers due to fade or kill, and fix some stuff in the TOC... Plus, hopefully this zip rebuild will include SpellCache.
16:52.26Azurewrathmhm k, dunno the commands there ;)
16:52.59Larichmm is backdrop removed from perfectraid?
16:54.18cncfanaticshttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Ace2/ still correct or did that change ?
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16:54.31Elkanoit changed
16:54.40Elkanothere is no root anymore
16:54.59Azurewrathhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ is the correct path now
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16:58.21AstronotCan someone edit the closetgnome todo.txt and add a request for a set-icon?
17:00.03CIA-1703cncfanatics * r13740 10FlexBar2/Libs/: FlexBar2: Externals directory
17:00.05[Ammo]astronot: that would not be nice
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17:01.22Gngskan icon for sets would be nice, however adding it to the TODO would not be
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17:03.23Azurewrathmhm.. could it be that the current oRA2 MT is broken? I use /ora set mt 1 name as always.. but it says 1. is now set to [] and nothing happens.
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17:04.07[Ammo]hmmm
17:04.09[Ammo]I hope not
17:04.11snurreora mt set
17:04.11[Ammo]did you just update?
17:04.15snurrenot ora set mt
17:04.30[Ammo]I tested from the dewdrop and that works
17:04.41Azurewrath[Ammo]: about 2 hours ago i believe.. wait a sec
17:04.43[Ammo]I had to do some gravediggin to get stuff working again
17:04.48snurre/ora set mt 1 name  <-- wont work
17:04.55snurre/ora mt set 1 name <-- works
17:05.09[Ammo]snurre if he gets a response in chat it works
17:05.10Azurewratherr sorry, meant that snurre
17:05.14[Ammo]but the response is wrong
17:05.43Azurewrath[Ammo]: have the latest revision running, just checked
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17:06.02Funkeh`hey all :)
17:06.23Funkeh`how are ya today
17:06.30Azurewrathif i use the dewdrop menu it says Set maintank: 1 Name
17:06.34Azurewrathbut no frames appear
17:06.40[Ammo]azurewrath: they should appear
17:06.42[Ammo]they did for me
17:06.54Funkeh`^^
17:07.00[Ammo]it should say Set maintank [1] [name]
17:07.04[Ammo]with the brackets
17:07.21Azurewrathwell, it doesn't
17:08.03[Ammo]does it give the brackets azure?
17:08.07Azurewrathnope
17:08.11[Ammo]then svn up
17:08.19[Ammo]your whole oRA2 folder
17:08.46[Ammo]self:Print(L["Set maintank: "] .. "[".. num .. "] [" .. name .."]")
17:09.27[Ammo]is what I do
17:09.27[Ammo]which means you should ahve brackets
17:09.27[Ammo]no brackets -> it didn't happen
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17:10.00Funkeh`hmm im getting an error when starting up from candybar, something about it requiring paintchips?
17:10.22AKXAlright, I'm about to transition from "Bag of Miscellaneous Addons" to all Ace
17:10.33Azurewrathstrange... did a reloadui and now i get one frame... but it still says 1. is now set to []
17:10.44[Ammo]Funkeh`: guess you use !!!libs or !!!libraries or something retarded?
17:11.01AKXOr at least, "As much Ace as possible"
17:11.06[Ammo]if you do, please go to the nearest bridge and jum[p
17:11.19Cartass[Ammo]: So evil.
17:11.24CartassTypical alliance retardness! ;)
17:11.26[Ammo]naah
17:11.27CIA-1703nimbal 07Nimbal * r13741 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Buffalo (branch): AceLibrary? Who needs this?! -.-
17:11.39[Ammo]it's typical screw stupid people
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17:12.03[Ammo]'I'm going to remove all these libs that these addons embed, and I'm going to do it all by myself'
17:12.14Funkeh`[Ammo]: sorry, alt tabbing atm, no i dont, but i use standalone candybar
17:13.03[Ammo]Funkeh`: standalone candybar includes the paintchips external
17:13.18Fiskerhaste
17:13.21hasteFisker:
17:13.22Funkeh`hmm
17:13.22[Ammo]funkeh`: but you probably got everything without externals and didn't read that candybar really really likes paintchips
17:13.28Fiskerextracting those files for you ain't any breach of my license right?
17:13.44Funkeh`nah, what i jsut did is a complete uninstall and reinstall using Aceupdater
17:13.49evl[Ammo]: I just updated oCD but there's no texture option there
17:13.55evl[Ammo]: I got the same boring gradient thingy
17:13.56hasteFisker: I have no idea what agreement there is now
17:14.01[Ammo]evl: but it has the correct flat texture
17:14.05[Ammo]the bantobar one
17:14.10[Ammo]or it should
17:14.18Funkeh`candybar folder doesnt have paintchips in it
17:14.24Funkeh`although i jsut did a fresh dl
17:14.25hasteevl: I'll release a new version tonight (read night) most likely
17:14.32[Ammo]Funkeh': it should
17:14.42Funkeh`only has acelibrary
17:14.43[Ammo]from the candybar.toc: Libs\PaintChips-2.0\PaintChips-2.0.lua
17:14.46evlAha, same with oRA2
17:14.51Fiskerhmm
17:14.52evlUgly textures :(
17:14.56Fiskerno interface files here
17:14.58KalamadiHmm. I registered the chat command for FlexBar2, but I'm not getting my options setup correctly,,
17:15.01Kalamadi... too
17:15.02CartassYeh, ugly bar textures FTL :(
17:15.09Funkeh`its in the toc ammo, just isnt included in teh zip file aparently
17:15.10hasteGlaze ftw
17:15.18Fiskergot it
17:15.21hastehad a fetish for it ever since it hit my mail
17:15.21cncfanaticsKalamadi: dont commit anything into trunk please :)
17:15.24[Ammo]wouter@connected:~/wow/svn/trunk/CandyBar/Libs$ ls
17:15.24[Ammo]AceLibrary  AceOO-2.0  Compost-2.0  PaintChips-2.0
17:15.31[Ammo]kthxbye
17:15.49Funkeh`;p
17:15.49[Ammo]just svn up'd
17:15.55Kalamadicncfanatics: Meh, I'll just make my code available to you on my personal site so you can decide what to do
17:16.11[Ammo]if you choose to disembed, good luck with you
17:16.16Funkeh`im gonna dl the zip manually see if its in
17:16.21Funkeh`i dont
17:16.23AKXWhat bank mod do you people use?
17:16.25[Ammo]it's not supported and any questions are redirected to the nearest bridge
17:16.33hasteAKX: default
17:16.34XuerianAmmo.
17:16.37[Ammo]OneBag + OneBank I use
17:16.46AKXI don't want the One ;)
17:16.47XuerianYou do realize that the zip script "Manages" to exclude libs sometimes?
17:16.48hasteCan you scan with OneBank?
17:16.56AKXI just want to see my bank from afar
17:17.00XuerianAutoUpdater deletes folders before extracting them
17:17.03AKXAh well, I'll stick with my antique BankItems ;)
17:17.05XuerianSo he would've lost the version with libs.
17:17.10[Ammo]Xuerian: the zip script is an extra feature provided by wowace
17:17.16Funkeh`http://www.wowace.com/files/CandyBar/CandyBar-r13657.zip
17:17.18Xuerian[Ammo]: That it is
17:17.21Funkeh`doesnt include it
17:17.23Funkeh`:(
17:17.26[Ammo]Xuerian: want a real working version download from a UI site
17:17.36[Ammo]or use an svn client
17:17.43Xuerian[Ammo]:  Mine works actually, and I use !!!Libs ;)
17:17.53Fiskerhaste i'm raring it up now
17:17.59[Ammo]the reason sometimes externals are omitted is because of fast commits
17:18.04hasteFisker: me love you long time
17:18.07[Ammo]and the SVN mirrors not being updated at that time
17:18.10Funkeh`i see, any way to fix it?
17:18.20[Ammo]so it errors just like your SVn client errors when you update a ton of addons and someone commits halfway
17:18.33[Ammo]it probably doesn't retry after an error
17:18.59XuerianMm, makes sense, but it also removes the blame from using the 'retarded' libs folder, and the necessity to jump off a bridge. Don't you just feel warm and fuzzy today?
17:19.02Fiskerpretty big though
17:19.06Fiskergot an ftp or something?
17:19.16[Ammo]well !!!libs etc are stupid hack solutions
17:19.21XuerianThat they are
17:19.23XuerianI fully agree.
17:19.31[Ammo]and I'm still thinking on a way to permanently break that shit p
17:19.41[Ammo]it caused more trouble than it did good
17:19.41XuerianGo get a job for blizzard.
17:19.45Funkeh`lol
17:19.49[Ammo]and it generates more questions than it does good
17:19.51PX_Hakker04(andreasg04): Pubcrawl is borked here at line 188
17:20.01Xuerian[Ammo] Stupid people just can't be helped period.
17:20.15Funkeh`[Ammo]:if i stick painchips in candybar libs folder, would that do the trick?
17:20.21XuerianFunkeh`: Should
17:20.29[Ammo]the problem is it generates questions with authors who never had anything to do with !!libs
17:20.35XuerianMake sure the folder structure matches the toc path
17:20.39[Ammo]hence my reaction to jump of a bridge :)
17:20.51KalamadiHrm. I'm specifying options with RegisterChatCmd, but those options aren't coming up
17:21.00Xuerian;P
17:21.12XuerianKalamadi: Pastey or it never happened.
17:21.19KalamadiThe structure of options isn't any different than working comparisons from other addons...am I missing something?
17:21.19[Ammo]anyway, time to go home
17:21.23[Ammo]the rain eneded a bit
17:21.26XuerianHave fun [Ammo] :P
17:21.37XuerianKalamadi:  ace.pastey.net or it still never happened.
17:21.45XuerianOr.. never... didn't happen
17:21.48[Ammo]for next time, CandyBar works just fine, anything that is wrong is your own fault :p
17:22.01Funkeh`i blame ze externals!
17:22.04AKXRegarding these embedded libraries and all
17:22.04Xuerian[Ammo] More precisely
17:22.04Funkeh`;p
17:22.07AKXWhat should I do?
17:22.09XuerianIt isn't Candybar's fault
17:22.35andreasgPX_Hakker: I can't see how, it works fine for me, line 153 which creates self.bars is created before line 156 is ran which leads to 188, so it should be fine
17:23.00Astronot"<Gngsk> an icon for sets would be nice, however adding it to the TODO would not be"  normally I'd agree, but
17:23.00Astronot------------------------------------------------------------------------r13470 | rabbit | 2006-10-09 18:54:04 -0400 (Mon, 09 Oct 2006) | 1 lineClosetGnome: Add TODO list with wish list - everyone can commit to this list, feel free to add your feature requests, but don't expect me to do anything.
17:23.18AstronotI just don't have permission to commit things, and I won't request it just to add to that file
17:23.21Gngskhow nice
17:23.29Fiskerhaste ?
17:23.30andreasgPX_Hakker: I suggest you delete WTF folder and disable all addons and try again
17:23.56KalamadiXuerian: http://ace.pastey.net/1505
17:24.08XuerianKalamadi: Looking
17:24.23CIA-1703ammo * r13742 10ClosetGnome/TODO.txt:
17:24.23CIA-17ClosetGnome:
17:24.23CIA-17* Request for Astronot etc blah blah blah Bridge that way ->
17:24.39PX_Hakkerwell it's a nil error and my bars were borked again and couldn't get in the config window anymore.... compatibility is probable still an issue atm :)
17:24.47PX_Hakkeranyways i'll try with the lot off
17:26.21KalamadiXuerian: It's not an EXACT copy, as I removed inapplicable stuff, but using /fb2 makes only the default four options appear (standby, debug, about, profile)
17:26.27KalamadiDamn him!
17:27.02PX_Hakkerk compatibility issue.... i'll try to find the bad program
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17:27.11KalamadiOooooh, I see now.
17:27.20KalamadiThank you Xuerian :P
17:27.39XuerianDid it work? X.x
17:27.56KalamadiFind out in 30
17:28.00Kalamadiseconds, that is
17:28.12XuerianI hit the "X" on my contact list, forgot I changed skins to one that I hadn't remapped that to minimize on.... XD
17:28.19hasteFisker: ?
17:28.37KalamadiXuerian: Yep, worked. Silly of me to define the variable outside the function
17:29.06XuerianAlso aceOO just gets added to the object declarations
17:29.24Xuerianand any reference to the object inside one of it's functions uses self: instead of objectname:
17:29.34KalamadiPoint at cnc, not me :P
17:29.35Xuerian(or self.)
17:29.38Xuerianlol.
17:29.43AKXI'm a programmer type (authored multiple addons), how hard is it to convert a titan addon to Fu?
17:29.43Fiskerit's 95MB the file
17:30.09XuerianAKX:  Depends on how detailed the plugin is
17:30.17XuerianAKX:  Otherwise the FuBar api is straightforward
17:30.21AKXWell, it's TitanEmoteMenu
17:30.27AKXBasically an icon with a menu :)
17:30.32XuerianThere's already one, though it's 1.2 not 2
17:30.40CIA-1703jncl * r13743 10oSkin/ (10 files in 2 dirs): oSkin: Branch merged into Trunk, includes Textured Tabs, Help Frame skinned, Main Menu Bar skinned, Character Tabs fixed, finally :)
17:30.42XuerianUnless you prefer to make you rown :)
17:30.46Fiskeri could use a host haste :)
17:30.46AKXHmm
17:30.54AKXOK, well, is Visor available for Ace2?
17:30.56Fiskeri'm uploading at rapidshare at the moment though
17:31.15hasteFisker: should work
17:31.19SH|Shabadorset irc_nick_highlight
17:31.28SH|Shabadoroops
17:31.31XuerianOnly Ace1 afaik. Apparently the guy that wrote it was a extremely good coder, but kindof hard to comprehend his code :P
17:31.32hasteIt's a lot of stress to fix an FTP account for you, as it's IP bound
17:31.50AKXOK, so do Ace and Ace2 work side-by-side?
17:32.04XuerianYes
17:32.09AKXOK, fine then
17:32.15KalamadiXuerian: I'm unfamiliar with parsing strings. Say I did /fb2 hide 1 20, how would I send "1 20" to the function and then separate those into two variables?
17:32.43AKXKalamadi, you'd either want to use strfind or gfind
17:33.00XuerianKalamadi: I'm not familiar with custom functions in AceOptions tables =|
17:33.14AKXFor example _,_,parameter1,parameter2=strfind(inputstring,"find (%d+) (%d+)") (that's what I've done)
17:33.36KalamadiWhat's the _,_, for?
17:33.43AKXYou get a few extraneous parameters up front
17:33.47Xuerianposition start, position end, you don't need them
17:33.49Mikkthe two first returned values get placed in the variable "_"
17:33.59KalamadiAh, okay.
17:34.03Mikkblah,bleh,param1,param2=strfind....
17:34.06KalamadiSo essentially null variables
17:34.12Mikkjust a convention
17:34.14XuerianBy convention.
17:34.32AKXWish me luck
17:34.39Mikkgluck o.O
17:34.44XuerianO.o
17:34.56AKXAnd thus, he clicked "Enter World", armed with a new generation of Aced addons
17:35.01AKX.. and cringes
17:35.08AKXLoading, loading, loading, loading...
17:35.10Mikk"Apparently the guy that wrote it was a extremely good coder, but kindof hard to comprehend his code "
17:35.14Mikk^That's my definition of a BAD coder
17:35.28Xuerianlol
17:35.39Xuerianjust 'cause it works don't mean you gotta get all sour up in thar!
17:35.40Fiskerok haste i'll let you know when it's up
17:35.43KalamadiTab spaces are your friend.
17:35.48MikkNot kidding. People have been fired by me for doing that and refusing to stop.
17:35.52Astronotthanks Ammo :)
17:35.56Xuerianlol
17:37.36AKXHmm, only 7 UI errors at the first try...
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17:42.26kb1ibtgd the downloader is slow
17:42.58KalamadiYaay, more pastey time >_<
17:43.17XuerianWoot.
17:43.51Gemskihttp://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~kazk/img/wow/TBC/WoWScrnShot_100306_232735_kargathloot.jpg  :D
17:44.02Kalamadihttp://ace.pastey.net/1507
17:44.45pastamancergoddamn, that's a sexy healing mace
17:44.54pastamancerfor a blue
17:45.07Kalamadipastamancer: Better than C'Thun's drop, that's for sure
17:45.19Loxwho do I talk to about helping with the Ace Udater?
17:45.30PlorkyeranBasically identical to Kel'Thuzad's mace
17:45.32pastamancerI'm still using benediction and working on rep for the CC hammer
17:45.33PlorkyeranExcept blue
17:45.46kb1ibtbut lvl 70 req
17:45.51Xueriangood lord
17:46.08AKXTry 2. Hoping for less UI errors ^^
17:46.20XuerianKalamadi: Checking
17:46.23AKXI'm very impressed so far, really
17:46.25kb1ibtwell i guess the fight club went public now
17:46.26pastamancerblue and single-groupable at 70 even
17:46.43KalamadiXuerian: No matter what I pass via /fb2 hide string, it says the variable buttons is null
17:47.00MikkThat mace has Paladin written all over it
17:47.23Mikk&#%¤# priests n dr00ds can go get daggers and staves :-P
17:47.30kb1ibtthere is one BE paladin over lvl 62
17:47.32KalamadiMikk: Agreed
17:47.44KalamadiI've lost two Jin'do's Hexxers to priests and druids
17:47.45XuerianHaha, I won't argue that
17:47.56XuerianKalamadi: Looking up docs.
17:48.05KalamadiXuerian: Much <3.
17:48.10XuerianHey, just cause I'm not arguing doesn't mean it's not a sexy druid mace
17:48.25MikkDruids benefit much more from int/spi/mana5s
17:48.27MikkSeriously
17:48.29KalamadiNot to mention that those players got something better in less than two weeks
17:48.32XuerianKalamadi:  "The execute type simply calls a function. In a GUI sense, it would be a button that if you push, it does something. This does not take any extra input."
17:48.36MikkI have a druid in the guild that really really tried stacking up on +heal
17:48.37Xuerianhttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table
17:48.37Josh_Borkewow, that is a NICE mace
17:48.39MikkWith epix
17:48.48Josh_Borkeis 67 the cap atm?
17:48.51KalamadiXuerian: So how would I pass an argument to a function? Hrm.
17:48.56MikkNo matter how he tried, he couldn't get more healing output than with regular t1/t2 mix gear
17:49.00MikkHe got a lot LESS
17:49.01Plorkyeran+healing stacking is amazing for druids if they do it correctly...
17:49.13XuerianPlorkyeran is right :P
17:49.22Josh_Borkepaladins too
17:49.22MikkMmmmmm not buying it
17:49.27KalamadiYeah, but if you're healing around your class's purpose...
17:49.27MikkYeah paladins certainly
17:49.32MikkThe effect on FoL is totally imba
17:49.33PlorkyeranHe was doing something wrong if it wasn't working for him
17:49.39gnorlishour top druid is at +1k healing
17:49.46gnorlishhe can heal forever with 1k heals
17:49.53MikkWell, he tried bloody all kinds of spells and ranks and whatever
17:49.54gnorlishhe spams it the entire emps fight
17:49.55Josh_Borkeyea, i used to be top in +healing, now i'm not :-(
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17:50.06KalamadiPaladins are all +heal due to constant small heals; priests are all spirit due to fewer big heals; druids combine all three due to lots of HoTs
17:50.08MikkWhatever he tried, another druid in t1/t2 mix gear outhealed him by a factor of 1.5--2
17:50.15XuerianAny healing class takes heavy benefits from +heal, doesnt change the fact you gotta know how to use it
17:50.23PlorkyeranThen the other druid is just a lot better :P
17:50.41snurrewtb mt list back in ora :(
17:50.43KalamadiPlorkyeran: The game caters to certain healing styles for certain classes.
17:50.50MikkThey were just spamming from full mana to empty mana and clocked the output
17:50.54Xueriansnurre ora2 oen doesn't suit you?
17:51.10MikkNot much skill in that :-P
17:51.14Xuerians/oen/one/
17:51.20PlorkyeranUh, that's a pretty meaningless comparison
17:51.50PlorkyeranI could just chaincast Heal 1 and conclude that I can heal an infinite amount of health doing that
17:51.57MikkHowso? If they use the same spell and rank when comparing?
17:52.09Mikk(they did)
17:52.17XuerianKalamadi: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#text I -THINK-
17:52.19snurreXuerian: the ora2 one doesnt show
17:52.25snurrewith the latest rev
17:52.27PlorkyeranBecause if you're just sitting there chaincasting one spell as a druid, you're a terrible druid
17:52.28Xueriano_0
17:52.37MikkPlorkyeran: Hrm. You have a point there =)
17:52.52PlorkyeranYou can't compare gear based on something you don't actually do
17:52.57KalamadiPlorkyeran: It's definate. Paladins spam-heal, priests spot heal with big heals, and druids HoT.
17:52.57Mikk<- Pally. Flashflashflashflashflashflashflashflash *yaaaaaaawn* flashflashflashflashflash
17:53.18XuerianHaha, I thought that when I grouped with a pally yesterday "Geez, do you EVER stop casting?"
17:53.22PlorkyeranYeah, paladins don't really have options :P
17:53.43KalamadiHey! I ZHC -> DF -> HL rank 9 now and then for a 4k burst
17:53.45MikkOh, pallies have big heals too, but they're about as mana efficient as priest healing, so it blows :-P
17:53.46PX_Hakkerok Andreasg Pubcrawl + latest Onebag = borked
17:54.40XuerianKalamadi: I think the text field should suit your needs
17:54.45Josh_BorkeMikk: i like to go free crit+holy8+flashflashflashflashflashflashcrit+holy8flashflashflash :-D
17:54.55Josh_BorkeSoP the MT, flash f lash flash ;-)
17:55.32MikkHow do you Seal someone else? o.O
17:55.40Josh_Borkehrm
17:55.48Josh_Borkes/S/B/
17:55.50Mikk;)
17:56.02MikkYeah, that's a risky one, but it's kinda cool.
17:56.10MikkBoP, big heal, re-bless something else
17:56.18MikkLooks fun when the boss goes walky for 2 secs =)
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17:56.23Josh_Borkelol, yea
17:56.51[Ammo]snurre: how does the MT list not show? I tested it this afternoon and it worked
17:57.16[Ammo]so unless someone committed again after me it should owrk
17:57.22Josh_BorkeMikk: off teh top of your head, does WoWBench have the SendAddonMessage support in it?
17:57.28[Ammo]even got confirmation on forums that my last commit worked
17:57.29snurrei dont know *how*.. it just *doesnt*
17:57.29Mikkdefinitely
17:58.19Mikkit had SendAddonMessage a long time before the live servers had it =)
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18:00.42andreasgPX_Hakker: works fine for me... Try deleting WTF
18:05.20Fiskeri got it uploaded haste
18:05.31hasteh-ai!
18:06.28KalamadiXuerian: If I ever use 'text', it doesn't work.
18:06.33Fiskerhttp://rapidshare.de/files/36490280/Interface.rar.html
18:07.19XuerianKalamadi: Paaaaayyyy-steeeeee
18:08.16Royal[Ammo]: I'm using latest Rev and I'm seeing MT list just fine
18:08.33Royalsnurre I mean :)
18:09.30Fiskerhaste :o
18:09.43hasteFisker: thank you
18:10.04CIA-1703nimbal 07Nimbal * r13744 10Buffalo/Buffalo/ (Buffalo.toc Libs/): Buffalo (branch): The neverending story of externals
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18:11.54KalamadiXuerian: http://ace.pastey.net/1508
18:13.06KalamadiXuerian: The addon doesn't even load.
18:13.24XuerianKalamadi: looking
18:13.34Loxwho do I talk to about helping with the Ace Updater?  I have a patch that will fix a few things...
18:13.44XuerianPP
18:14.22GngskPProvost
18:14.28Loxah, ok
18:15.02LoxI take it he doesn't come in until later
18:15.05XuerianCouldn't remember the full name for the life of me XD
18:15.41Loxhehe
18:17.05CIA-1703fenlis * r13745 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua:
18:17.05CIA-17BanzaiAlert :
18:17.05CIA-17<PROTECTED>
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18:17.33XuerianKalamadi: Pastied
18:18.16XuerianHm
18:18.51XuerianKalamadi: Pasted again.
18:19.16PX_Hakkerwhat the hell is the difference between hostelbar and antagonist?
18:19.21KalamadiXuerian: Hide was working before
18:19.43XuerianThen try pasting more of your code if you changed anything else, that's the only thing that popped out to me as possibly bad :P
18:19.51XuerianPX_Hakker: It's a complete re-write
18:20.06PX_Hakkerah k
18:20.06snurrewtf is up with chronometer and oCD using that ugly texture as default?
18:20.15Xueriansnurre:  It's a candybars issue.
18:20.21KalamadiXuerian: Nothing else changed :/
18:20.31Xuerian[Ammo] decided the default bar.tga was causing problems.
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18:21.16XuerianKalamadi: hm. Still, post more of it? Whole file /header if it strikes you so :)
18:21.47KalamadiXuerian: Done
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18:22.11Axenushello
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18:22.23Axenuscould someone help me on a little thing in ORA2 please?
18:22.46Axenusi just wanna move MT's bars to some other place
18:22.55Axenusand cant find on the commands list how to do it
18:23.00Axenusits in the middle of the screen =\
18:23.00XuerianAlt-drag
18:23.09XuerianGeez, someone needs to paste that in big, green letters somewhere
18:23.22Xuerian"ALT-DRAG TO MOVE MT FRAMES" <3
18:23.24MikkHow about putting it in a tooltip when you mouse over the frame itself?
18:23.27Xuerianlol
18:23.30MikkNot the bars -- the frame outline
18:23.30XuerianThat would work
18:23.32Axenusthank you so much
18:23.43XuerianEnjoy, Axenus
18:23.55XuerianMikk: Geez, already? o_0
18:24.01[Ammo]oh goody
18:24.06[Ammo]TBC beta key
18:24.06[Ammo]yay
18:24.10Xuerianhate
18:24.14Mikkhate
18:24.23[Ammo]little birdy tossed me one :p
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18:27.07ckknight__gah
18:27.23ckknightI want a beta key, because I'd use it to upgrade addons
18:27.27ckknightand say, Ace2
18:28.02MikkDon't need a reason. I just want one ^^
18:29.23Xuerianckknight does need a key =(
18:29.38ckknighteven Xuerian agrees with me
18:29.44ckknight;-)
18:29.53Xuerian:P
18:30.08MikkEhmm uhmm... I need... um.. I need a key so that I can upgrade WoWBench. It's to the good of everyone!
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18:30.35andreasgemulate?
18:30.36Mikmaanyone has any idea how to hide chatframetab permanently?
18:31.00Mikmaif i use ChatFrameXTab:DisableDrawLayer() , only the text disappears
18:31.04Mikkandreasg: yes, emulate. http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench
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18:32.41andreasgoh I see
18:33.11lacindashiya all
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18:33.19andreasgwowbench should be able to emulate not only the env, but the gui display =P
18:33.44PX_HakkerAndreasG problem was with a newer svn version of onebag so reverted that back and it works now ;)
18:34.14KalamadiXuerian: No ideas?
18:35.43andreasgPX_Hakker: I have newest SVN and it works fine
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18:35.52Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2606.new#new
18:35.53Industrial-_-
18:36.04MikkGah. Wonder what key I het
18:36.07Mikkhit*
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18:36.25lacindasId: lmao
18:36.29Mikkfound it :-P
18:36.29PX_Hakkerhere it messed up my bar
18:36.34IndustrialMikk: :P
18:36.44lacindasmikk: lol
18:36.47PX_Hakkerand broke your addon basically
18:36.49Industrialhope i get some -karma
18:36.54Industrialim steadily approaching -200
18:37.01lacindashaha that gets u +karma from me ;P
18:37.04Industrial\o/
18:37.17MikkOooookay, what did Industrial call me? =)
18:37.41lacindasammo or haste been around recently?
18:37.43pastamanceryou're so diplomatic Industrial
18:37.45IndustrialMikk == Narshala?
18:37.51andreasgPX_Hakker: what I am saying is try to clear your WTF
18:37.51Mikkoh. no :-P
18:37.51PX_Hakkeronebag,bank and rind 12749 and oneview 13103
18:37.51lacindaspasta: rofl
18:38.02hastelacindas: I'm here
18:38.10lacindasahh, hiya haste
18:38.17hasteHello
18:38.22Mikkammo is here too but his TBC download just finished so don't expect him to be responsive for the next week or so :-P
18:38.37Fiskerlike me :)
18:38.46Fiskergot AQ40 raid now
18:38.54Josh_BorkeMikk: i know what you mean :-D
18:38.57Fiskerhow i just wanna "get disconnected" for the rest of the evening
18:39.20PX_Hakkergot a way for you fisker
18:40.06PX_Hakkerget cthun warner 104, use squishy and let someone bring up a pet... the ui goes haywire
18:41.10andreasgPX_Hakker: what I am saying is try to clear your WTF
18:41.28Mikksooooo... anyone here I can force my graphics upon?
18:41.36Mikkicons? web thingies?
18:41.43Josh_Borkelol mikk
18:42.00PX_Hakkerwell I just used an older svn version and it just worked like it should andreas ;)
18:42.07PX_Hakkerof onebag
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18:42.55IndustrialMikk: sure
18:43.18Josh_Borkeckknight_: ping
18:43.43Industrialhey btw Mikk didnt you make that addon that lets you create move scale etc new frames in wow, realtime?
18:43.45ckknightpong!
18:43.56Industrialhows that going? :o
18:43.59MikkIndustrial: yes. except i got a coders block so it's on ice for now.
18:44.06Mikk<- been doing graphics for the past two weeks
18:44.08Mikkor so
18:44.11Industrialoh ic
18:44.39Josh_Borkei'm testing my addon which uses AceComm.  i am running it inside wowbench (hopefully that doesn't matter).  i do MyAddon:SendCommMessage('GUILD','Hello') and it does nothing :-(
18:44.56Mikkcompletely silly. i know exactly what i want. i know how to do it. it's not hard. but every time i sat down with that addon i just ended up scrolling back and forth through code and not writing a single line.
18:45.13ckknightJosh_Borke, odd...
18:45.17Fiskeris the filescript site down?
18:45.24Fiskernevermind
18:45.25Fiskergot it there
18:46.12MikkJosh_Borke: It's because there is no guild >.<
18:46.18Josh_Borke>.<
18:46.25MikkOr... hm...
18:46.30Mikkwait, I take that back
18:46.39IndustrialIm working on my newish unitframes again :)
18:46.40MikkIt should send to all your logged-in chars
18:46.57MikkRegardless of send mode
18:47.01Josh_BorkeAceComm doesn't even call SendAddonMessage
18:47.06FtH|eagleis it not possible to use any addons in the bc beta?
18:47.19Mikknow _that's_ strange
18:47.21ckknightJosh_Borke, it uses ChatThrottleLib
18:47.28Mikktry hitting enter a couple of times
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18:47.39Mikkthat triggers OnUpdates
18:47.41Josh_Borkei did
18:48.06MikkI _tested_ chatthrottlelib with sendaddonmessage under WoWBench
18:48.10ckknightwhat if you whisper yourself, Josh_Borke?
18:48.24MikkJust checking: You DO have >1 char logged on, right?
18:48.43eternally777What can I do when Squeenix doesn't display the minimap properly?  It's just showing a black box after I switched zones while on a taxi
18:49.19Josh_Borkejust one char logged in...
18:49.30PX_Hakkerdepends it happend to me once in awhile but it just needed to be loaded eternally777
18:49.34Mikk~smack Josh_Borke
18:49.39purlACTION smacks Josh_Borke upside the head.
18:49.46PX_Hakkerso here it corrected itself
18:49.58eternally777doing a Reload() fixes it.. but it definitely wasn't loading by itself
18:50.00Mikklog in one more char and witness message delivery on the other one =)
18:50.35FtH|eagleno one knows?
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18:50.59Mikkit's possible. if they're compatible with it.
18:51.00*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ
18:51.08Mikka LOT of addons are going to be broken
18:51.23nevcairielyeah its possible to run addons
18:52.04ckknightTBC doesn't allow addons!!1!1!one!
18:52.18nevcairielnever, ever.
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18:52.28PX_Hakkerckknight wins the internet
18:52.45Lox... it's a series of tubes
18:52.55Mikk~whalestuff ckknight
18:53.04Mikkhmm
18:53.06nevcairieldidnt we agree it was pipes?
18:53.11Mikk~whaleclog ckknight
18:53.19nevcairielor was that the other way around ? :)
18:53.35LoxI have it on good authority
18:53.50Mikk~whaletube ckknight
18:54.00Kalamadi~whalehammer Mikk
18:54.07Mikk~whaletubes ckknight
18:54.08purlACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into ckknight's tubes. ckknight's internets no worky :(
18:54.30Mikk~whaleparry Kalamadi
18:54.31purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Kalamadi's attacks.
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18:54.39Josh_BorkeMikk: but you can send addon messages to yourself...
18:54.47Mikkyou can? o.O
18:54.53AKX~uselessbotcommand
18:54.55Josh_Borkeyou receive your own messages
18:55.00Mikko
18:55.04ckknight_not the way I set it up, Josh_Borke
18:55.04Mikkmy bloody bad then >.<
18:55.20ckknight_AceComm doesn't receive your own messages
18:55.21ZdC-SujataHi, one question, if u want to change the color of the chatframes using oskin it only shows the color if i move the cursor above, any way that it always have the color?
18:55.33Mikkckknight_: yea but the game event will be fired
18:56.08Mikknope, i don't deliver to the sender
18:58.03CIA-17wowbench: 03mikeclueby4 * r130 10/trunk/api.lua: api.lua: SendAddonMessage() will now correctly deliver messages to the sender also
18:58.22KalamadiXuerian: Couldn't find anything?
18:59.35Mikmawell
18:59.46Mikmai guess i have to hook onmouseover of the chat
19:03.30FtH|eagleMikk: So how can they be made compatible? addon screens says all are not compatible with bc
19:03.44XuerianSorry Kalamadi, had to afk
19:04.16KalamadiXuerian: No problem
19:04.34MikkFtH|eagle: The author changes the things that need changing? =)
19:04.46XuerianKalamadi: Looking over it again
19:05.07FtH|eagleI mean not a syntactic problem or something like that, the addon screen of bc says that every addon is not compatible
19:05.24KalamadiForce loading?
19:05.29FtH|eagledoesn't help
19:05.39MikkGo into the toc file and change 12000 to 20000?
19:05.49Mikk^ Warranty void :-P
19:06.59KalamadiHaha, clue-by-four, how clever.
19:07.14Industrialhttp://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2391/wowscrnshot101206210526fi5.jpg
19:07.18Industrialyay background is colored now too
19:07.39Industrial(the bars)
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19:09.09XuerianNice, ID :P
19:09.40hasteIndustrial: you have an account again?
19:10.16Industrialyeah got 2 now
19:10.23Industrialone us one eu
19:11.15XuerianTry the pastey Kalamadi, but I don't see why it wouldn't work the way you had it. What does it do, exactly?
19:11.19CIA-1703flyflame * r13746 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: update zhCN locals
19:11.34Fiskerstupid 3 worms in a row
19:11.40KalamadiXuerian: What does it do or what is it supposed to do?
19:11.46CIA-1703flyflame * r13747 10oRA2/ (Leader/Item.lua Participant/Item.lua): oRA2: fixed one translation for druid reagent
19:12.02XuerianWhen loading, you said it wouldn't even load (which is odd), any errors at all?
19:12.24KalamadiYeah, but BugSack isn't picking up on it
19:12.43XuerianHow about in framexml.log ?
19:12.46Fiskerso haste was the files useful?
19:12.59hasteI haven't had time to look at it yet
19:13.03Fisker:(
19:13.27KalamadiXuerian: Where is that, exactly?
19:13.38Xuerianwow\logs\framexml.log
19:14.58KalamadiNope, nothing
19:15.06XuerianSo it just silently doesn't startup?
19:15.15Xuerians/startup/load/
19:15.18Fisker3x3 worms
19:15.40KalamadiRight O_o;
19:16.06XuerianThis is odd. Let me load up and tryan impliment a text exec myself
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19:24.50XuerianKalamadi: While I test this out, you might want to try to revert through your changes to a loading version to start from :P
19:25.14KalamadiIf I use 'execute', it works. If I use 'text', it doesn't.
19:31.22Xuerianhttp://ace.pastey.net/1514 works just fine for me, it gets separated into each argument in the function by spaces in the input
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19:32.49KalamadiThen why doesn't mine work? O_o;
19:33.16CIA-1703radon * r13748 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs: fixed Kel'Thuzad deDE locals
19:33.58Xuerianname = "hide button",
19:34.05Xueriantry adding that :P
19:34.14KalamadiJust did, waiting on reload
19:35.14KalamadiXuerian: /fb2 hide 10 20 : line 25: attempt to call method 'HideButtons' (a nil value)
19:35.34cncfanatics:o making slashcommands heh
19:35.41Kalamadicncfanatics: I said I would.
19:35.59cncfanaticsbtw, u cant have em like that
19:36.09cncfanaticsneed to be able to enter tables of buttons & ranges for slashcommands
19:36.16KalamadiThat's...what I'm doing
19:36.19cncfanaticsso can't let ace2 handle em as it dsnt support that
19:36.36cncfanaticswait, lemme check code first- .-
19:37.01KalamadiYou're entering a start number and an ending number, then a loop iterates from the bottom to the top, hiding those buttons
19:37.11KalamadiI'll let you see the code when I have it working :P
19:37.13cncfanaticsstill dsnt support tables then :(
19:37.26cncfanaticslike /fb hide button=[1 5 32]
19:37.38KalamadiOne step at a time.
19:37.44Xueriancncfanatics: You can parse your own commands yet add them with ace, just patience :P
19:37.55ckknightyea.
19:37.56XuerianKalamadi: Pastey one more time so I have the lines you have :)
19:38.30ckknight<PROTECTED>
19:38.32Xueriancncfanatics: The additional advantage is the dewdrop will be able to accept the commands as well should you elect to include one, or duececommander
19:38.34ckknightif you want
19:38.57XuerianOr it can call handler HideButtons(var) if input isn't set to true :)
19:39.10cncfanaticswld ace2 be able to handle /fb2 hide button=10 toggle='true' for example ?
19:39.23cncfanaticsor in reverse order even
19:39.30XuerianWith a little fancy regex'ing
19:39.45nevcairielace can register the slash for you, you would have to handle such arguments i think
19:39.45AKXpatterning! patterning!
19:39.45cncfanaticsok, thought so
19:39.45Xueriancncfanatics:  if you can handle it without ace, you can handle it with ace
19:39.46KalamadiXuerian: http://ace.pastey.net/1516
19:39.59cncfanaticsi ment without doing anything myself except catching args
19:40.00XuerianYou can get ace to pass the handler the raw string (button=10 toggle='true')
19:40.05XuerianOh :P
19:40.11IndustrialCan i add a unitframe for the unit 'targettarget' or is that done differently?
19:40.26pastamancertargettarget is polled
19:40.31Industrialpolled?
19:40.40hasteIndustrial: you have to use an OnUpdate for targettarget
19:40.45Industrialcrap
19:40.48hasteIndustrial: but you can use the unit 'targettarget', fully valid
19:40.52hastebut you don't get any events
19:40.54pastamancerno normal unit events
19:40.55Kalamadipastamancer: I'll get onto the Grid module when I'm done here :P
19:41.03Industrialoh thats nasty then
19:41.11Industrialsomeone make a request for that on the us forums :P
19:41.42hasteIndustrial: even blizzards target's target uses onupdate!
19:42.00Industrialyeah i guess :(
19:42.00pastamanceronce you have a tot frame, totot or partyXtarget is easy
19:42.02Fiskeri want this raid to eeeeeeeeend
19:42.08Fiskerplay TBC is my destinyyyyy
19:42.13Fiskeri rock at rhymes
19:42.14Fisker:/
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19:43.56pastamancerKalamadi: It will be nice to have more modules to test with.  and aslo more modules to break when I change things
19:44.18Kalamadipastamancer: Awesome :D
19:44.49Kalamadipastamancer: What did you decide based on my ideas earlier?
19:44.54cncfanaticsKalamadi: do u have BC beta access ?
19:45.03Kalamadicncfanatics: 'fraid not
19:45.09Fiskeri have after this raid i think
19:45.10Fisker:P
19:45.12KalamadiBut I have time, and lots of it! Go me.
19:45.16cncfanaticsdamn, i'm converting my code to TBC code
19:45.19Fiskerdunno if my character is copyed
19:45.21cncfanaticswell, soon anyway
19:46.39pastamancerKalamadi: nothing yet, I am still at work.  I also talked with Ammo about how bigwigs handles modules and have some new ideas for how to handle some things
19:47.23Kalamadipastamancer: Do these things affect the vision I have for my module, or just the module method itself?
19:48.25pastamancerKalamadi: just how the modules interact, nothing that would seriously break what you are doing
19:48.41Kalamadipastamancer: Alright, good to know
19:48.54Kalamadipastamancer: Will it be similar to how BigWigs modules work?
19:49.12pastamancerKalamadi: yes and no
19:49.24andreasgckknight: hm, I don't think you got an answer
19:49.32andreasgI'd bump it if I could
19:49.36Kalamadipastamancer: More complex, because modules can have their own configuration menus, correct?
19:49.48KalamadiRather than the static toggle on/off
19:50.10pastamancerbigwigs modules have their own options too
19:50.58KalamadiHrm. Are they limited to toggles, though?
19:51.15Fiskerbtw andreasg
19:51.16Fiskermwuhahaha
19:51.18pastamancerno, you should be able to use anything that would work in a normal AceOptions table
19:51.22KalamadiNeat.
19:51.53andreasgFisker: what
19:52.09Fiskeri'm in the beta :P
19:53.03andreasgFisker: why? Did you win that stupid test realm competition?
19:53.10Fiskernah
19:53.14andreasgthen why?
19:53.16Fiskerscreenshot comp
19:53.21nevcairielheh
19:53.22andreasgoh, I see
19:53.32andreasghow many got invites for winning that competition?
19:53.38XuerianWhat was the winning shot? :P
19:53.39andreasgGuess I could have done that too
19:53.40Fiskereach guild who won got 25
19:53.46Fiskerthere were 40 winners
19:53.55andreasgWow, that's fucked.
19:54.13Fiskeratleast 2 guilds from Ravencrest-EU won
19:54.15CIA-1703fenlis * r13749 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua:
19:54.15CIA-17ParserLib :
19:54.15CIA-17- load pattern list & info when event is registering
19:54.46andreasgSo some a bunch of stupid raiders with IQ of 20 gets an invite free from their guild, but I can't even get to fix my addons which blizzard is going to break :P
19:55.10andreasgI'm going to kill Blizzard
19:55.32ckknightI talked to Slouken, he doesn't have any keys to give away
19:55.40cncfanaticsthey used em up ? :(
19:55.45Fiskerbah
19:55.55andreasgckknight: you talked to him? Just forum or ...?
19:55.57ckknighteach employee is only allotted so many to give away
19:56.01ckknightandreasg, email
19:56.02KalamadiXuerian: I replaced "self:" with "FlexBar2:" and it works :x
19:56.11XuerianKalamadi X-x
19:56.22andreasgckknight: ok. You didn't get an answer regarding that R_R_U event issue?
19:56.22vhaarrckknight: I think andreasg is talking about your 2.0.0 post regarding the frames, did you get a response to that?
19:56.33XuerianWas just working on setting up a local test of it after <glares at roommates> rl shit >_<
19:56.35ckknightandreasg, nope.
19:56.46ckknightno response
19:56.58Kalamadicncfanatics: Now that I've got that sorted out, can you please remind me as to the string for hiding button 1? Sorry to make you repeat yourself, but my chat log doesn't go that far back =(
19:57.05CIA-1703leech * r13750 10dgks/dgks.lua: dgks: Fixed bug with unregistering events
19:57.08Industrialhttp://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5259/wowscrnshot101206215550wu4.jpg
19:57.27cncfanaticsFlexBar2.Model:GetTempData("ButtonObject1"):Hide();
19:57.27Industrialworking on targettarget :P
19:57.30cncfanaticsbtw Kalamadi, ur commiting ur code somewhere when ur done ?
19:57.31KalamadiThanke you
19:57.41Kalamadicncfanatics: Yeah, I'll find someplace
19:57.41Fiskerare you US or EU ckknight ?
19:57.45ckknightUS
19:57.51Fiskeroh ok :(
19:57.57andreasgI really hope I will be able to get a beta key somehow
19:58.06IndustrialFlexbar2 ? :O
19:58.09Fiskeralthough i don't know if we can even give away from outsiders of the guild
19:58.13andreasgI'd like to be able to play the game when it releases, not sit for days and fix broken addons
19:58.15cncfanatics<--- FlexBar2 coder
19:58.23cncfanaticsKalamadi lending a hand :)
19:58.24Industrialooomg url?
19:58.28cncfanaticsace2 svn rep
19:58.35Industrialnice
19:58.38andreasgFlexbar2 using Ace2?
19:58.41cncfanaticsnot even slashcommands yet tho
19:58.44cncfanaticsand yes fb2 uses ace2 :p
19:58.45Industrialand its like, 'official' ?
19:58.54ckknightseriously, they should give out like 25 keys to the wowace team to give to selected coders.
19:59.06Industrialmememe :P
19:59.08cncfanaticswell ckk, FlexBar team got 2, and we're 3 coders
19:59.09ckknightwe deserve it more than some guild that took some stupid screenshot
19:59.13andreasgckknight: put more pressure on Slouken :P
19:59.18cncfanaticskinda lame ace team dsnt give any
19:59.20cncfanaticsget*
19:59.24ckknightcncfanatics, who did you ask?
19:59.25Tem*cough*
19:59.39pastamancerI will just make Fisker bug test for me!
19:59.40CIA-1703andalia * r13751 10BattleChat_Buffs/BattleChat_Buffs.lua:
19:59.40CIA-17BattleChat_Buffs:
19:59.40CIA-17- Buffs which are shorter then 8 chars are displayed with their full name.
19:59.40CIA-17- You won't get any messages for loosing buffs while dead (removes death-spam but sucks for stuff like flasks that stay on death)
19:59.42ckknightor, who did your team ask?
19:59.45Industrialhow do I execute a function on OnUpdate again? :|
19:59.49KalamadiIf I use GetTempData("ButtonObject"...variable) that'll work, right?
19:59.55ckknightIndustrial, use AceEvent
19:59.56Kalamadis/.../../
20:00.06Industrialckknight: okay
20:01.06cncfanaticswe didnt ask at all, ckknight
20:01.11cncfanaticswe just got some -.-
20:01.17Industrialckknight: .. i need an OnUpdate for my targettarget frame
20:01.18ckknightwho gave it to you?
20:01.25cncfanaticsmailed onto dhaggar's mailbox for alpha, mailed onto my mailbox for beta
20:01.32cncfanaticsno name put on em from any staff
20:01.59andreasgso it was just from blizzard
20:02.03andreasgwith no sender name?
20:02.19pastamancerIndustrial: self:ScheduleRepeatingEvent(self.Update, 0.5) or whatever
20:02.22cncfanaticslemme copy& paste
20:02.36Industrialpastamancer: oh nice
20:02.44pastamancerIndustrial: that's how aguf does it
20:02.45Andalia_SpecialEvents-Aura somehow is full of bugs :( It gives wrong textures for buffs quite often and gives texture as arg3 instead of arg4 is arg3 doesn't exist :/
20:02.59IndustrialI should read more code and docs :P
20:03.11MikmaCIA-17: wake up assclown
20:03.18Andalia_s/is/if
20:03.18Mikmaoh it already has lol
20:03.22CIA-1703fenlis * r13752 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer-Locale.lua: Chronometer : Updated locals koKR
20:03.27Andalia_argh wrong again ^^
20:03.31pastamancerfunction aUF.classes.aUFunitMetro.prototype:Start() in ag_UnitClass.lua
20:04.24cncfanaticsSubject: Blizzard Entertainment- Burning Crusade Key!
20:04.30cncfanaticsFrom:    "Blizzard Entertainment" <noreplyeu@blizzard.com>
20:05.01cncfanaticsno name mentioned at all -.-
20:05.07andreasgwhat pastamancer ?
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20:06.04pastamancerandreasg: just telling industrial where to look for how aguf handles the targettarget frame
20:06.27Kalamadipastamancer: Now...I can't get the buttons in Flexbar2 to show up. WTH.
20:06.44andreasgok
20:07.02KalamadiEr. Not pastamancer.
20:07.54pastamanceroh, and I swear I'll update the targettargettarget patch one of these days.  although the old one will probably still apply without conflicts
20:08.23andreasgAnyone want to sell a beta account? :P
20:08.30Fiskerwhat's the easier kri-last combo?
20:08.31andreasgIs it your normal account you upgrade?
20:08.35Fiskervem-yauj or yauj-vem?
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20:09.09gnorlishyauj-vem is how we've always done it
20:09.20gnorlishi can't imagine it being easier
20:09.49cncfanaticsvem never first
20:09.53cncfanaticsas he enrages yauj
20:09.59cncfanaticsjust let him enrage kri only
20:10.06cncfanaticsso kill yauj - vem - kri
20:10.34Fiskeris NR or dps better?
20:11.21gnorlishwe used NR at first to alleviate the load on our healers
20:11.36gnorlishare you alliance or horde
20:11.50Fiskerhorde
20:11.54Fisker(ezmode apparently)
20:12.12gnorlishmake sure shamans stay near their parties and drop poison cleansing totem after every poison spit
20:12.15Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2571.0
20:12.21gnorlishthat will save them lots of mana
20:12.21Mikmawobin should do thata :D
20:13.15Fiskercan you tank kri so the poison volley doesn't hit?
20:13.44Fiskeror is there no range?
20:14.07XuerianMikma: Heh, that does look pretty neat...
20:14.42MikmaXuerian: to be honest... i may have the semialphabetagamma-code for that one :P
20:14.49Mikma(aka. Popsicle)
20:15.24XuerianHeh.
20:15.38Mikmait's very, very basic atm and only hides/shows raid and party -chats while in raid
20:15.41XuerianSo long as you can make multiple stacks, that'd be very cool.
20:15.56XuerianIt handles the fcf frames?
20:15.59Mikmai need to mod it to detect a party too or else i don't see my partymessages :P
20:16.10MikmaXuerian: well yeah it tries to :P
20:16.20XuerianHm
20:16.31XuerianSeems like you'd want to inherit fcf's or make your own entirely
20:16.53Mikmai have a weird problem with it so now i have had to abandon the fcf functions
20:18.30Mikmai need to find a better way of detecting is player in raid or in party or not
20:18.46Mikmaand i'm thinking that should i make a scheduled event to check that every 0.5 seconds or so
20:18.58Mikmathere aren't any good event's to use :P
20:19.17cncfanaticsraid_roster_update ?
20:19.40Mikmai am using that one atm
20:19.52Mikmabut the party is a tricky one
20:20.16Mikmathere was some problems with it, can't remember since it's almost a week when i tried it
20:20.38XuerianGetNumPartyMembers ?
20:21.11Mikmathat ain't event
20:21.16CIA-1703fenlis * r13753 10EQCompare/ (EQCompare.lua localization.kr.lua):
20:21.16CIA-17EQCompare :
20:21.17CIA-17<PROTECTED>
20:21.17CIA-17<PROTECTED>
20:21.22Xuerianschedule it every 2sec? o_O
20:21.40Mikmai could but i don't wan't to :(
20:21.55Xuerian>.<
20:22.23Mikmainparty.event = "PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED"
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20:22.31Mikmathat's how S&D does it
20:22.45Mikma<PROTECTED>
20:23.30Xuerianon PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED check GetNumPartyMembers for > 0 and fire your function if so?
20:24.05Xuerianif GetNumPartyMembers() > 0 and not self.inparty or something <_<
20:25.27Mikmahmm, i'll have to get back to you on that one tomorrow
20:25.35Mikmai'm about to pass out soon :D
20:25.40Xuerianlol
20:25.49Mikmalast day of this "jobpractice" is starting tomorrow
20:26.52Mikmapastamancer: gief us beta-release
20:29.38Kalamadicncfanatics: Okay, the functions I have now work as follows;
20:30.00leech2kDoes anyone use msbt?
20:30.06Mikmaye
20:30.18steino_ye
20:30.24Kalamadicncfanatics: You may specify a single button to show/hide or a range of buttons to show/hide. The range can operate backwards (i.e. 12 - 10). I'll work on arbitrary strings, though
20:30.36leech2kkk I guess I will add support for that sct mod too then :-)
20:34.08cncfanaticsKalamadi: Great
20:34.18cncfanaticsi'll probably polish ur code some
20:34.22cncfanaticswhen I got time at least
20:34.51Kalamadicncfanatics: Won't need much polish if you can tell me how to parse a string like "[2 4 5 6 7]" into an array :P
20:35.11cncfanaticsway too long ago I still did that
20:35.43ckknightfor x in string.gfind("%d+", "[2 4 5 6 7") do print(x) end
20:36.00Kalamadickknight: I mean where the numbers may change
20:36.07CIA-1703fenlis * r13754 10SimpleCombatLog/SimpleCombatLog.toc: SimpleCombatLog : touch toc as updated ParserLib
20:36.28ckknightfor x in string.gfind("%d+", myString) do print(x) end
20:36.39KalamadiAnd that'll ignore [ ]?
20:37.39ckknightit'll pick up every number
20:37.49KalamadiOkay, thankee.
20:37.51ckknightso [12 6 346] will turn into 12, 6, 346
20:38.17KalamadiOh! I can use that.
20:38.32andreasgon raid roster update, do I have to update all units?
20:39.07Kalamadicncfanatics: Alright, I'll be another half hour or so before I'm ready
20:40.02CIA-1703fenlis * r13755 10!!!Libs/!!!Libs.toc:
20:40.02CIA-17!!!Libs:
20:40.02CIA-17- Updated toc 'Note-koKR'
20:40.02CIA-17- touch toc as updated PaserLib
20:42.35vhaarrgah, I think I ate some strawberry jam that disagreed with me
20:42.44vhaarranyone know a cure?
20:43.08Kalamadickknight: So, wait. How would I define an array with that loop? for...do button.x = x end?
20:43.19Kalamadivhaarr: Go back in time and prevent yourself from eating that jam.
20:43.29ckknightarray?
20:43.34ckknightbutton[x] = true
20:43.35ckknightmaybe
20:43.48ckknightor table.insert(button, x)
20:43.56KalamadiNevermind, I'm being silly
20:44.07Fiskerdoes kri heal himself when his son or wife dies?
20:44.30axxoany way to get out of naxx that doesn't involve hs/portal
20:44.38CIA-1703fenlis * r13756 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist : touch toc as updated ParserLib
20:45.40Josh_Borkeaxxo: no
20:46.28axxowhy-o-why
20:46.37axxoguess summoning ppl is a hack
20:47.51DrDreget someone to invite u and queue bg :p
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20:50.17Kalamadickknight: When using for x in string.gfind("%d+", "[1 2]") do I get "malformed pattern, cannot find
20:50.25Kalamadickknight: ']'
20:50.31ckknightoh, hang on.
20:51.02XuerianYou're reversing the arguments? :)
20:51.09Josh_Borkestring.gfind("%d+","%[1 2%]")
20:51.16Josh_Borkeor that...
20:51.19ckknightwait
20:51.20ckknightmy bad
20:51.21ckknightfor x in string.gfind("[1 2]", "%d+") do print(x) end
20:51.24ckknightthat's what you want.
20:51.27KalamadiOkay.
20:51.42ckknightfor x in string.gfind("[1 2]", "%d+") do print(tonumber(x)) end
20:52.08Fiskerw00t
20:52.11Fiskerkri down
20:52.25Kalamadickknight: Dammit! Doing that only prints the number "1"
20:52.48ckknight> for x in string.gfind("[1 2]", "%d+") do print(tonumber(x)) end
20:52.48ckknight1
20:52.48ckknight2
20:53.13KalamadiOh, wait. I know what it is
20:53.19Xuerianhttp://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringRecipes
20:53.28XuerianYour best friends :)
20:53.35KalamadiXuerian: I've tried that before, got too confused
20:57.46Ghentwoot
20:57.56GhentTru64: 0  Ghent: 1
20:58.00Ghentstupid POS OS
21:00.39pastamancerMikma: I don't dare. It's minimally functional now but I have lots of things to break before Grid is ready for even an alpha release.
21:02.21leech2k<PROTECTED>
21:02.23pastamancerMikma: I will however post some tantalizing screenshots in a few hours
21:03.16Elkanook, finally my defrag finished and I could start reinstalling WoW ^^
21:03.28KalamadiI hope cncfanatics comes back soon =(
21:04.04Industrialhttp://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_101206_230050f00.jpg
21:05.08KalamadiIndustrial: Making your own unitframes?
21:05.36Industrialyesh
21:06.25AKXHey, there isn't FuBar_RollFu? *frown*
21:06.35KalamadiDO A BARREL ROLL
21:08.49XuerianAKX: FuBar_GroupFu
21:08.50XuerianIt's not a advanced roll manager but it catches and does them
21:08.50AKXAh, great
21:08.50AKXThanks
21:10.55ckknightcan someone add Polymorph: Pig and Turtle to Babble-Spell? I'm off to class in a minute
21:11.03vhaarrwill do
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21:11.27ckknightthanks a lot
21:11.52snurrei need more AP :(
21:11.57snurreonly 2480 without totems
21:12.06add\\Leialynvhaarr
21:12.21vhaarryes add\\Leialyn
21:13.08add\\Leialyngerman locals are "Verwandlung: Schwein" for Pig and "Verwandlung: Schildkr\195\182te" for Turtle
21:13.28add\\Leialyn^^
21:13.43ckknightclasstime
21:14.12Kalamadipastamancer: I have completed my project for cnc and will begin looking into my module
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21:16.42Industrialcya ckknight
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21:17.38Kalamadihttp://ace.pastey.net/1518 for those who want to use the new FluxBar2 off the SVN with slash commands :D
21:17.59andreasgRaid unit experts: Do I need to update all units at R_R_U? Will the unit ids change?
21:18.19Kalamadiandreasg: I believe you do.
21:18.42andreasgok...
21:18.58andreasgso If raid20 leaves, everyone after raid20 will get their id changed I guess
21:19.28pastamancerI believe so
21:20.00CIA-1703rabbit * r13757 10BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0/Babble-Spell-2.0.lua: BabbleLib: Add Polymorph: Pig and Polymorph: Turtle.
21:21.03add\\Leialynand noooow we need someone to add those spells to HostelBar :)
21:21.19vhaarrandreasg: RosterLib takes care of that for you.
21:22.15vhaarrandreasg: It fires an event when the raid setup actually changed instead of when blizzard tells you it might have changed.
21:22.24Kalamadiadd\\Leialyn: You mean Antagonist?
21:23.15add\\Leialynnope .. I used HostelBar today and just noticed, it only works for Polymorph and not for pig or turtle
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21:23.33vhaarrHostelBar is deprecated.
21:23.37add\\Leialynbut the whole thing is kinda weird, so I just removed it :f
21:23.39add\\Leialynthehe
21:23.40vhaarrUse Antagonist + Chronometer.
21:23.50andreasgvhaarr: and will it also tell me which units?
21:23.57vhaarrandreasg: I believe so.
21:24.22andreasgI finally might be able to use rosterlib now after I improved my raid event system
21:24.24andreasgin aguf
21:24.44add\\Leialynwelll ... but I assume they are also using Babble-Spell ;> And since those spells weren't in until now ... ^^
21:25.19shadoxlx`sleepfor the new StandaloneLibraries package
21:25.27Fiskeryay
21:25.30Fiskergot the beta runnning now
21:25.34axxo!notes Antagonist
21:25.37add\\Leialynstill installing
21:25.37shadoxlx`sleepi just set it up so it's Interface\Addons\Ace2, Interface\Addons\PaintChipsLib
21:25.38shadoxlx`sleepetc... right?
21:25.47shadoxlx`sleepI don't actually keep the !!!StandaloneLibraries folder do i?
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21:28.03ShadoxLXmy beta download is a perfect example of why I hate bittorrent :/
21:28.09ShadoxLXI'm stuck at 99% and not getting any download :|
21:28.31[FH]Birdemanidoesnt matter, no keys yet
21:28.34ShadoxLXyeah I know
21:28.36ShadoxLXbut it's irritating
21:28.40ShadoxLXand it's soaking up my upstream
21:28.42ShadoxLXkilling my net :P
21:28.54TainSo limit your upstream.
21:28.57Arrowmasterso disable p2p in the blizzard downloader
21:28.57[FH]Birdemani1.83gb, started last night before i went to bed
21:29.03ShadoxLXI just did arrow :P
21:29.08andreasgFisker: give login so I can shard all your i...fix my addons
21:29.21ShadoxLXtain: through what means?
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21:30.11TainOh using the blizzard downloader?  No idea.  I'd use Netlimiter for that, but alternately download using a real bit torrent client instead.
21:30.25ShadoxLXhehe
21:30.51[FH]Birdemanii just turned on netlimiter right now
21:31.16chrisaqos does wonders for that
21:31.30ShadoxLXQoS on my router doesn't work, haven't had a chance to screw w/ the firmware =\
21:31.37ShadoxLXugh, just switched voer to the standalones
21:31.40ShadoxLXand now I'm getting an error
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21:32.44ShadoxLXsigh
21:32.48ShadoxLXthat broke my stuff :|
21:33.34ShadoxLX...ace\Addons\SpecialEventsEmbed\Mount\SEEmbedMount.lua:2:CompostLib not found
21:33.50ShadoxLXmeh
21:33.59CartasWhat the?!
21:34.07ShadoxLXHm?
21:34.11CartasAll my addons reset themselves...
21:34.17Industrialhttp://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_101206_233305121.jpg
21:34.22Industrialplaying with the width/height
21:34.23Industrial:D
21:34.32hastePeople are singing Chip'n'Dales in different languagse on VT right now
21:34.35hastepretty scary
21:35.12steino_ye
21:35.14IndustrialI cant use bitmap fonts in wow right?
21:35.22steino_in germen they were suddenly "the knights of justice"
21:35.31Industrialhey steino_ im still using that 1-60 guide on your web :P
21:35.34steino_:)
21:35.36steino_its nice
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21:36.01Fiskerso anyone got some mods i need to test for you? :P
21:38.13[FH]Birdemanioo nice, swstatsfu for v2.0 beta
21:38.47Industrialhttp://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_101206_233746ffe.jpg
21:38.59IndustrialI kinda like this bigger hp bar smaller power bar
21:40.29KalamadiIndustrial: Don't forget to put a percentage switch if you don't know the target's HP
21:41.07IndustrialKalamadi: UnitHealth() returns percentage or value
21:42.08sergionice handle bars
21:42.18KalamadiIf that value's 100, you can pretty much assume it's a percentage :P
21:42.24Industrialyesh
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21:45.46ckknighthey all
21:46.04Kalamadickknight: Heya
21:46.22Xuerianheya ckknight.
21:46.41KalamadiXuerian, did you look at my final product?
21:46.54Xuerianmm, I think I missed it?
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21:47.12CIA-1703rabbit * r13758 10BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0/Babble-Spell-2.0.lua: BabbleLib: Ninja polymorph translations for frFR and koKR from Chronometer.
21:47.17Kalamadihttp://ace.pastey.net/1518
21:47.38KalamadiI found you DO need that AceOO line
21:47.56XuerianI won't argue if it works, lol
21:49.15XuerianI don't call it in xloot/monitor and use lines like func = function() self:OpenMenu(UIParent) end, in my options, so I never suspected it o_O
21:49.31KalamadiI see
21:49.43Fiskerah lol
21:49.47KalamadiI'm a little upset, though. cnc is nowhere to be seen :<
21:49.52Fiskerjust set my talents because i figured i was level 70
21:49.54Xuerian=\
21:49.56Fiskerforgot iwas level 60
21:50.01XuerianXD
21:50.34ckknightlol
21:50.50IndustrialI managed to crash vim with a :bn<CR> and alot of manual folds
21:50.53Industrialhttp://imagesocket.com/view/untitledf7a.PNG
21:51.08KalamadiIndustrial: Use SciTE!
21:51.11Industrialno wai
21:51.21KalamadiTotally!
21:51.26Industrialim way faster with vim :P
21:51.45KalamadiBut SciTE is both pretty and tabbed =(
21:51.51KalamadiTabbed - for your pleasure!
21:51.53Industrialvim is tabbed
21:52.01pastamancerbah tabs
21:52.08Industrialand splitted and buffered
21:52.14Industrial:P
21:52.16XuerianI feel like the black sheep, using ultraedit >_>
21:52.19Kalamadipastamancer: I'm a fluxbox user, tabs are my thing
21:52.26pastamancerC-x 2
21:52.40Industrial<tab>
21:52.41Industrial:P
21:52.57pastamancerI use emacs when programming
21:52.59KalamadiSometimes...sometimes I break down and use a pad of paper and a pen =(
21:53.05Xueriano_o
21:53.23XuerianI don't.... write... things... anymore. That's archaic. >_>
21:54.00ckknightyea, just like how I don't wear wooden clogs like my ancestors did, because my nice leather shoes are so much better
21:54.07ckknightI'd prefer to type over writing by hand
21:54.42Fiskeri want to test addons :I
21:54.58KalamadiWell, yeah. Given that you won't even be legible at that WPM while writing
21:55.24IndustrialUIParent:Hide() UIParent.Show = function() end
21:55.28IndustrialFisker: try that
21:55.48Industrials/UIParent/WorldFrame/g
21:55.50IndustrialxD
21:59.11Fisker:I
22:00.58MikkXuerian: Ultraedit rocks =)
22:01.15XuerianWoo, I'm not alone XD
22:01.23MikkF7 = fire up in wowbench / syntax check with wowbenck =)
22:01.52Xuerianooh, syntax check with wowbench? Obligatory winky-linky desired :P
22:02.00GemskiIs there anyway to disable tooltips on fubar mods? >.>
22:02.09Gemskilike i want nothing to show up if i hover over some
22:02.10Mikkthe latter case would of course be outputting in ultraedit's output window so that you can just double click on errors and jump directly to the right place =)
22:02.22MikkXuerian: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench
22:03.21MikkUse "lua wowbench.lua -x MyAddOn" for syntax checker mode
22:03.42Fiskercool
22:03.49XuerianMmm, much thanks.... Shall be playing with this later :P
22:03.50Fiskerenemy cast bar addon inbuilt
22:03.54Mikk(You'll probably want to change config.lua to point to your live installation -- I assume that's where you're doing your editing.)
22:04.04CIA-1703rabbit * r13759 10Chronometer/ (Core/Chronometer-Locale.lua Data/Mage.lua): Chronometer: Polymorph pig and turtle moved to babble. Fix indentation and untranslated strings are now commented out instead of eating memory. enUS uses ["String"] = true.
22:04.05Fiskeralso a feature to enable sound even when minimized
22:04.09MikkYAY
22:04.15XuerianSweetness
22:04.15Azurewrath"Learning "Artisan Riding" (the fast flying mounts) will cost you 5000 gold. Yeah, it's true - finally we got almost all important details about mounts." <-- can anyone confirm that? :)
22:04.24XuerianDruids, ftw.
22:04.48Fiskernew quest: defile uther's tomb lol
22:04.56Fiskerthe blood elves are pissed
22:05.03MikkThe flying mount skill is a bit BS. I've been riding flying mounts since like lvl10 =)
22:06.14MikkGranted, not doing much steering. And who knows, maybe those witty goblins hand out free superglue to all the flight masters.
22:06.19Azurewrathi would love it to cost 5000 gold.. finally something to spend gold on :)
22:06.29Fiskerbtw
22:06.31MikkeBay? =)
22:06.33Fiskereven sword skill is nerfed
22:06.39Xuerianlol, Mikk
22:06.41Fiskerno edgemasters handguards for warriors then
22:06.42Azurewrathnope, no twinks ;)
22:06.49Fiskercause it's rating based as well
22:06.54Azurewrathnearly 7000 gold.. dunno why.. gets more and more
22:07.02Industrialyou
22:07.03Industrialare sick
22:07.13Industrialmake some twinks
22:07.13Industrial!
22:07.16[FH]Birdemanisword skill is nerfed?
22:07.18[FH]Birdemanihow so
22:07.26Plorkyeran"Weapon Skill Rating"
22:07.29MikkLemme guess... those odd entries in your bank statements is because you forgot to cancel your wow gold subscription?
22:07.38Industriallol
22:07.49[FH]Birdemanistill makes humans the most OP melee class
22:07.58PlorkyeranYeah
22:08.00AzurewrathMikk: lol
22:08.06Fiskeryeah cause the racials aren't ratins
22:08.07PlorkyeranIt mostly means no more edgemaster's, and not much else
22:08.11Fiskerratings*
22:08.13MikkI mean... I thought I was made with 1.5K :-P
22:08.16Azurewrath"Oh, another 1000g in the mail".. ;)
22:08.22Fiskernerfs horde rogues imo :P
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22:08.38Plorkyeranorc rogues did get nerfed :P
22:08.42PlorkyeranStun resist is down to 15%
22:09.06Arrowmasterfuck
22:09.28Mikkdamnit, now i dragged the wowace window out to the taskbar again!
22:09.30*** part/#wowace Mikk (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com)
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22:09.39PlorkyeranMikk, you can move it back
22:09.44Fisker41 players online :P
22:09.56MikkPlorkyeran: How? Drag&drop fails miserably :<
22:10.00Arrowmasterthey change bloodfury yet?
22:10.00PlorkyeranYou can move pages between windows with the Windows panel
22:10.06Mikko
22:10.43Mikker.. what bloody windows panel? o.O
22:10.52IndustrialPlorkyeran: what panel? pages? errr?
22:11.05PlorkyeranIf you have the default keybindings, hit F4
22:11.13PlorkyeranThen select "Windows" from the dropdown menu
22:11.22PlorkyeranOr click the Windows button
22:11.28MikkAHA
22:11.30MikkIt's disabled
22:11.36MikkI have to enable that pane first in the options >.<
22:11.53PlorkyeranThey like to hide a lot of stuff now :/
22:11.58MikkMm
22:13.18kb1ibtok wtf
22:14.44MoonWolfdoes  squishy do buff monitoring ?
22:14.58XuerianOnly HoT's
22:15.18Xuerian(Aggro-IncHeal-HoT's)
22:15.31MoonWolfwould you happen to know of a mod that does ?
22:15.40XuerianXRaidStatus (XRS)
22:15.56MoonWolfkk
22:16.12XuerianPraid shows missing buffs aswell, but sounds like you're looking for just a monitor :)
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22:17.55KalamadiC'mon, cnc...
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22:21.53kb1ibtwhat did i forget to do since none of my mods load?
22:22.47KalamadiUpdate your libs?
22:23.12kb1ibtno even in the addons window it says incompatible
22:23.20kb1ibtno just out of date
22:23.34kb1ibts/no/not/
22:23.37KalamadiOh. 11200 -> 20000 in the .toc files
22:24.10KalamadiYou never said you were trying to get them to load in the beta
22:24.35kb1ibti keep forgetting the NDA "fight club" was lifted
22:24.44kb1ibtso i can speak out instead of in code
22:25.19kb1ibtis there a script or program to modify all my mods version?
22:25.49KalamadiIt's not that hard to find-and-replace 11200 for all addons you want to test
22:26.59kb1ibt73 directories....
22:27.27kb1ibtwell that includes all the blizz mods
22:27.43kb1ibtso 60 mods
22:27.52mjckb1ibt: ls | grep -v Blizzard | wc -l
22:27.53mjc:P
22:28.37Kalamadikb1ibt: that'd take me 4-5 minutes or so
22:28.44MikkZzzC:\Program Files\World of Warcraft>ls | grep -v Blizzard | wc -l
22:28.44MikkZzz<PROTECTED>
22:28.48mjcKaelten: hum
22:28.59Josh_BorkeMikkZzz: ping
22:29.02MikkZzz...
22:29.03MikkZzzor not
22:29.14Josh_Borkeblast, night mikk
22:29.17MikkZzznah
22:29.25Xuerianlol, 'night mikk
22:31.17mjcKalamadi: took me 10 seconds
22:31.24mjcleft:/Applications/World of Warcraft/Interface/AddOns mjc$ find . -name \*toc | xargs -I {} sed -i bak -e s/11200/20000/ {}
22:31.34andreasgWhy does wow save position for CreateFrame frames in layout-cache?
22:32.02Kalamadi~seen pastamancer
22:32.17purlpastamancer is currently on #wowace (6d 8h 31m 10s). Has said a total of 178 messages. Is idling for 39m 20s, last said: 'I use emacs when programming'.
22:33.04mjckergoth, Kalamadi: anyone that would do find and replace without sed is absolutely nuts
22:34.44Kalamadimjc: I don't have to do find and replace, though, seeing as I'm not in the beta
22:35.12mjcKalamadi: regardless, if you do find and replaces without sed, you're insane :)
22:35.26Kalamadimjc: Feh. Sanity is boring anyway
22:36.41andreasgOk, I have a huge-ass problem. Wow saves and loads the position on frames I have created using CreateFrame. And it does it after some of my logic have been fired
22:37.43KalamadiTme? Timmy?
22:41.17andreasgAhhh I fixed it. Thank god.
22:41.38mjcandreasg: ?
22:42.33KalamadiDon't worry, mjc
22:42.50andreasgKalamadi got it right, I am talking to myself
22:43.04mjc"Internet News is reporting that Sun held an in-world news conference in the online game Second Life.
22:43.31CIA-1703ag * r13760 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files):
22:43.31CIA-17ag_UnitFrames
22:43.31CIA-17<PROTECTED>
22:44.04pastamancerKalamadi: what is up?
22:45.19KalamadiLines 191-193 of GridFrame don't make much sense
22:47.22andreasgFisker: do you know if Blizz implimented the secure frame system in BC beta yet
22:47.49pastamancerI could probably replace it with a call to Compost:RecycleHash
22:47.58Fiskernope
22:48.03Fiskercause i suck at coding :P
22:48.33pastamancerbut basically, if a StatusGained is received for a status that is already active, replace/update it and update the indicators
22:49.27andreasganyway after I fixed this there is a very good chance that aguf might be very easy to fix for BC
22:49.44AzurewrathFisker: you said you have a beta account, didn't you? :)
22:50.03andreasganyway I just hope that they're not stupid and allows frames to be moved on R_R_U
22:50.24pastamancerR_R_U or PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED
22:51.24andreasgyes
22:51.47pastamanceror UNIT_PET I suppose
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22:52.00pastamancerback in 20-30 minutes, walking home from work
22:52.04andreasgthat too, else it would suck
22:52.08mjcsame
22:56.10vhaarrAnyone remember what the mobs in Heigans dream room are called?
22:56.14vhaarrEye Stalk Cord?
22:56.17vhaarrAnd the maggots.
22:56.57vhaarr"Eye Stalk"
22:57.23vhaarr"Mutated Grub" ?
22:57.38Prophyis the latest chronometer 13759 working??  doesn't seem like it wants to load.. /chron = /help =)
22:57.46Kebinusanthe mutated grubs are from the gauntlet
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22:57.51Kebinusanbefore heigan
22:58.03vhaarrWhat are the tiny ones in his room called?
22:59.05vhaarrProphy: I might have broken it, I haven't tested the latest commit I did.
22:59.06KebinusanRotting Maggot?
22:59.23vhaarrah
22:59.34KebinusanI think anyway
23:00.14Prophyvhaarr yah it's broken it seems
23:00.20vhaarrI'll fix it in a minute
23:01.14vhaarrProphy: You updated externals?
23:01.34Prophyi used 13739 and it just worked
23:01.48Prophyi use the Aceupdater
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23:02.37kb1ibti love how many times ineed to reload the game due to missing deps that i wasn't expecting
23:03.59CIA-1703rabbit * r13761 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer-Locale.lua: Chronometer: Typo.
23:04.17Josh_Borkewho's worked on/in wowbench?
23:04.21KalamadiBlargh. Pasta, walk faster!
23:08.04kb1ibtbah, why (TBC) "FuBar_Assist.lua:7: Cannot find a library instance of Tablet-2.0" I know i have tablet and it even shows up int the addons list
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23:10.11kergothkb1ibt: does fubar_assist have tabletlib in optionaldeps?
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23:11.10Kebinusankergoth, neg
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23:11.48kb1ibtoh i know why, bah !!Libs i forgot to put that in my addons folder
23:13.24kb1ibtor not..
23:14.25CIA-1703rabbit * r13762 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Heigan.lua: BigWigs: Heigan: String cleanups; added Eye Stalk and Rotting Maggot to the wipe mobs list, so we don't disable the mod if you have any of those targetted.
23:16.21kb1ibtdo i need to install S&D since some mods are LoD?
23:17.07pastamancerKalamadi: I had to stop and buy more beer!
23:17.16Kalamadipastamancer: No worries
23:17.54Kalamadipastamancer: Are you going to be working on Grid right away? I'm going to add the other three buttons as well as a potential framework for element selection (so you may judge)
23:18.52pastamancerI'm going to be reading through BigWigs and thinking about the conversation I had with Ammo
23:19.11KalamadiAlright; I'll fool around with GridFrame in the meantime
23:19.35CIA-1703googles * r13763 10FuBar_MageFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_MageFu.toc Locale-enUS.lua): FuBar_MageFu: Add ability to limit amount of food/water conjured. Fixed bugs relating to sub 60 mages.
23:21.24vhaarrIs ipairs faster than pairs?
23:21.30Josh_Borkeno
23:22.09vhaarralright
23:23.59pastamancerKalamadi: sounds good.  I'll probably be moving most of the decision-making code out of GridFrame and into GridFrameManager
23:25.17CIA-1703sano * r13764 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ (. ClosetGnome_Zone.lua ClosetGnome_Zone.toc): ClosetGnomeZone: initial import
23:25.55kb1ibtok what did i miss...I had all my mods working 2 days ago on Alpa, now i can't get any of them working in beta
23:26.20kb1ibti've tried changing the version numbers but they still don't work
23:28.28CIA-1703sano * r13765 10tri/core.lua: TargetRaidIcons: removed debugging code that was causing errors
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23:30.26Kalamadipastamancer: I'm working on handlers for "element" calls instead of "categories"; are you okay with this decision? Your original functionality will be preserved under the "AutoBox" element.
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23:31.31Rophy~seen fenlis
23:31.43purli haven't seen 'fenlis', Rophy
23:32.39Josh_Borkeany submitters with permission on AceComm?
23:33.16Josh_Borkethere's a bug in it...
23:33.28pastamancerKalamadi: I'd rather you added an option to the StatusGained that suggests an indicator
23:33.56pastamancerGrid:StatusGained(name, category, status, ..., indicator)
23:34.18KalamadiIndicator being either border or corner-box?
23:34.19pastamancerthat's all going to end up being changed to use AceEvent though
23:36.39KalamadiI just feel that Category is redundant; if the user can specify -what- they want to see and -where- they want to see it, there's no need
23:38.38GemskiWell my friend got in beta today. He said default ui has enemy cast bar built into target frame.
23:41.37pastamancerKalamadi: I'd rather not have status modules depend on there being certain indicators.  What if someone wrote a GridFrame module that make the frames look like perfectraid or one that uses letters in the corners
23:42.19Kalamadipastamancer: I see what you mean
23:42.50KalamadiSo the indicator designates the look of the boxes in the corner?
23:43.06pastamancerwith categories, the frame can say "anything that is an ALERT is displayed on the border"
23:43.41pastamancerright now the only inidicator is the box in the upper left corner of the frame
23:43.50pastamancerand that was just to have something to test
23:45.16CIA-1703rabbit * r13766 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Fix deDE.
23:47.17Prophyanyone have a problem with Chronometer not being able to pickup spells casted by Macros??
23:47.28Josh_Borkeman, AceComm is really fubared
23:49.01KebinusanProphy yea sort of, I mean I notice it doesnt start a cooldown bar for amplify curse if its activated from a macro, it does start the timer appropriately for whatever curse was used though
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23:51.55CIA-1703thiana * r13767 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/Cooldown.lua: FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Cancel alert event when cooldown is reset and move Elemental Fire onto shared transmutes timer.
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23:59.05Tainug I just IM'd someone, "mmm that looks good, I'm going to look up the recipe." and then tried to go to mmm.foodnetwork.com
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