| 00:00.06 | hugo | are somewhere listed all the [aliases] ? |
| 00:00.11 | hugo | for custom text |
| 00:00.14 | pastamancer | on the wiki page |
| 00:00.19 | hugo | ok |
| 00:00.58 | hugo | so if i look in the ABF.lua there should be the portrait code ? |
| 00:04.33 | pastamancer | hugo: I added your idea to my todo list, it'll probably take a few weeks before I get around to it, so you may want to post it in one of the aguf threads in hopes that Delsyphnx, Nevcariel, or Kemayo decide to adopt it. I know AG is busy grinding rank 13. |
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| 00:11.33 | hugo | thanks :> |
| 00:11.43 | hugo | grinding is dangerous~ |
| 00:12.38 | hugo | im one of these person that are hard to adapt, i want use ag frames with all the nice func, while i have hard times give up the original ones ;o |
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| 00:17.14 | Azurewrath | mhm... i had a hard time giving up my DUF-Layout which was custom built and tweaked in many hours... but the original ones? Ugly! ;p |
| 00:17.59 | snurre- | I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would use the standard unit frames |
| 00:18.47 | hugo | you see we soon go on 4hoursesmens and i still use the original ones.. for party player and target :> |
| 00:18.53 | hugo | with archeologist or so |
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| 00:19.13 | snurre- | please, i beg you.. get aguf |
| 00:19.18 | hugo | as i said i dont like the numbers show up all time, only when hover mouse over |
| 00:19.53 | Nox2k3 | Hey the "prefix" in AceComm functions has nothing to do with the actual text sent to or received from the channel? |
| 00:20.05 | hugo | i like the smarthp but then if i want see the hp i must reconfigure it.. ;o |
| 00:20.28 | Azurewrath | try [aghp] |
| 00:20.44 | Azurewrath | percent and MobHealth3 Value... i like it :) |
| 00:21.02 | hugo | but then you see the numbers always you see |
| 00:21.08 | hugo | not hover mouse ;] |
| 00:21.41 | Azurewrath | uhm.. sure.. why whould someone not see precious information all the time? :) |
| 00:21.50 | snurre- | so? not like they take the entire bar, like on the standard ui |
| 00:22.13 | snurre- | and yeah, I really dont get why people choose to hide information |
| 00:22.33 | hugo | this conservation has really no use, you have your opinion i have mine |
| 00:22.53 | snurre- | ofc |
| 00:22.57 | snurre- | My goal with my ui: Show as much information as possible, as neatly as possible, with as low resource hog as possible |
| 00:23.00 | hugo | im just telling what i need, not here for you to tell me what's good, i know whats good for me, thanks :> |
| 00:23.10 | hugo | but i appreciate it ;] |
| 00:23.29 | Azurewrath | snurre-: word. Information ftw :) |
| 00:23.31 | snurre- | try aguf, you'll never ever want that standard crap again :p |
| 00:23.57 | hugo | i dont think that 4500/6300 40x on raid bars would be any use while healing whole raid on boss |
| 00:24.04 | hugo | you dont really have time to read it ;> |
| 00:24.25 | Azurewrath | just use deficit or percent values there :) |
| 00:24.39 | hugo | only think the numbers will do is, make ur harder see the bar lenght |
| 00:24.53 | hugo | and here is the point im talkin about Azurewrath |
| 00:25.12 | hugo | as i said i like smarthp ok, but i would like to get the hp information when i hover mouse over :) |
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| 00:27.58 | Nox2k3 | is there any reason IsCommRegistered( "MyAddon" ) would return true, but IsCommRegistered( "MyAddon" , "AnyDistro" ) would return false? |
| 00:29.10 | hugo | portrait looks good ;] |
| 00:29.53 | hugo | http://hugo.rytir.com/portrait.jpg |
| 00:30.08 | hugo | just the dps meter is bad, i need it's border and background riped :D |
| 00:32.54 | snurre- | someone redo the ui on damagemeters kthx :p |
| 00:33.02 | snurre- | (or swstats) |
| 00:35.38 | hugo | i want get rid of the original bars too also ;o |
| 00:35.52 | mjc | someone rewrite them from scratch snurre-, fuck the UI as well :) |
| 00:36.13 | snurre- | mjc: You just volunteered. Now get moving! |
| 00:36.21 | hugo | but im too used to baroptions addon, it change both left bars (24icons) to another ones when i turn pages |
| 00:36.24 | mjc | epgauge |
| 00:38.28 | Thiana | Tekkub: Is ClassWarlockSoulLink.lua supposed to be zero length? |
| 00:38.49 | Mikk | http://81.233.236.26/XLoot-logo-700x300.png / http://81.233.236.26/XLoot-icon.png |
| 00:39.02 | mjc | kergoth: lots of changes on kergwow today |
| 00:39.36 | hugo | hm |
| 00:39.41 | mjc | Mikk: I like the icon but the logo is kinda tacky :p |
| 00:39.50 | Mikk | Darn =) |
| 00:39.55 | hugo | just was killing some mob azshara with ag unitframes, his name is so long that i dont see the hp percent value at all ;o |
| 00:40.08 | mjc | I liked Xuerian's logo better than yours |
| 00:40.20 | mjc | maybe X's logo with your dice behind it, w/ dots on them |
| 00:40.47 | Mikk | I can certainly swap the font if that's what you mean |
| 00:40.54 | Mikk | Well. It'll take me like an hour but... yeah =) |
| 00:41.19 | CIA-17 | 03skyboat * r13573 10Redirection/ (. Redirection.toc core.lua): |
| 00:41.19 | CIA-17 | Redirection: |
| 00:41.19 | CIA-17 | - Initial import. |
| 00:41.19 | CIA-17 | - Read .toc to see what it does. |
| 00:41.29 | Xuerian | If he gives me the png's of the component pieces, I can whip it up myself while using his in the interim :) |
| 00:41.34 | mjc | yeah, the font and the drop shadows.. but then again it's not my addon :) |
| 00:42.22 | mjc | Xuerian: you're welcome to agree :P |
| 00:42.50 | mjc | it's your mod |
| 00:43.09 | mjc | I'm gonna go gank rag and loot a perd, in a minute |
| 00:43.21 | Mikk | ffa loot? =) |
| 00:43.28 | mjc | defaulted |
| 00:43.38 | mjc | (even better!) |
| 00:43.41 | Thiana | !toc Redirection |
| 00:43.43 | Mikk | Hehe |
| 00:43.51 | Thiana | !notes Redirection |
| 00:43.54 | Xuerian | Mm, I like his rendered dice a lot, if I can get the render of them I'd like to put them infront of my logo, his X. Again, once I get components I'll doodle around in photoshop for a while ;D |
| 00:44.07 | Mikk | Sure |
| 00:44.32 | Xuerian | All the bleeding-edge guilds on my server use FFA o_O |
| 00:44.49 | beerke | we allways used ML without any problem |
| 00:44.51 | Skyboat | it's for BC, in case evul hunters decide they don't like you ;) |
| 00:44.59 | snurre- | warranty is void with FFA :p |
| 00:45.12 | beerke | I don't see how people can or could fuck up with ML. |
| 00:45.33 | mjc | clicking the wrong person, there's no name on the BoP notice |
| 00:45.50 | snurre- | most of the time it's ML assigning, then finding out that the person already has the item, or stuff like that |
| 00:45.57 | snurre- | and then the occational misclick |
| 00:46.13 | snurre- | use ClassMasterLoot, awesome addon :p |
| 00:47.05 | Plorkyeran | Most of the top guilds use FFA because they started using it when ML was buggy as hell, and haven't had a reason to switch |
| 00:47.13 | Plorkyeran | Not because it's actually better :P |
| 00:47.19 | snurre- | that would be awesome, X.. just make sure you get the classmasterloot features in it ;) |
| 00:47.40 | Xuerian | :P |
| 00:47.46 | snurre- | the random function for instance, and class divided menus with class colouring |
| 00:47.58 | beerke | ML was never buggy for us, and i played from the start |
| 00:48.17 | snurre- | and the most important the function to announce for people to /roll for the item, then it shows the top5 rolls in the menu |
| 00:48.18 | CIA-17 | 03skyboat * r13574 10Redirection/ (Redirection.toc libs/): |
| 00:48.18 | CIA-17 | Redirection: |
| 00:48.18 | CIA-17 | - Added libs |
| 00:48.18 | CIA-17 | - Removed unused libraries from .toc |
| 00:48.21 | snurre- | hello dewdrop fun |
| 00:48.34 | beerke | what could be was people disconnecting, crappy loot addons, people afk or out range and such |
| 00:48.39 | eternally777 | imo most top guilds use FFA because they're the closest guilds, and because FFA is faster and doesn't hold up the entire raid |
| 00:48.43 | beerke | which made them dissapear from lootlist |
| 00:48.54 | snurre- | ML doesnt hold up the entire raid either |
| 00:48.59 | beerke | all items go through dkp anyways |
| 00:49.09 | snurre- | screw dkp :p |
| 00:49.13 | beerke | which holds up raid :P |
| 00:49.58 | snurre- | we just use a web based wishlist system, which calcs ranking list on every item based on activity, loot, time since last loot, ratio |
| 00:50.07 | snurre- | top on list gets the item, no bidding or discussion |
| 00:50.11 | snurre- | and really fast |
| 00:50.43 | snurre- | there's absolutely no way ill ever use any other system again in wow :p |
| 00:54.02 | Zicon | Sounds nice. |
| 00:54.09 | Mikk | Sounds like zerosum dkp |
| 00:54.25 | Mikk | Except bidding is done beforehand |
| 00:54.31 | snurre- | sort of, just that there are no points |
| 00:54.45 | Mikk | No, but there's an internal algorithm that uses points :-P |
| 00:54.51 | snurre- | yep |
| 00:55.03 | Mikk | Zerosum dkp with points hidden from users and pre-filled wishlist |
| 00:55.03 | snurre- | dkp systems tend to develop into a currency to be earned and spent |
| 00:55.17 | Neebler | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p61mD558egA |
| 00:55.19 | Neebler | hardy har har |
| 00:56.03 | snurre- | however, our system has a time factor involved too.. a large portion of your "score" is decided on time since last loot |
| 00:56.09 | snurre- | which is resetted every time you get an item |
| 00:57.20 | snurre- | it also has a "minor" upgrade part where, say, healers can wish for DPS items without it affecting their wishes for healing items.. if no DPSers with it on list are in raid, it turns to the minor list and we choose from there |
| 00:57.45 | Mikk | I like the wishlist idea tbh |
| 00:57.51 | Mikk | Makes people bloody THINK |
| 00:58.04 | Mikk | Not "ooooo that's .01% better than I have, I'll bid for it!" |
| 00:58.11 | snurre- | yeah, just not go "OMGZPURPLZBIDBIDBID" |
| 00:58.39 | snurre- | me, crezax and another guy developed in back when we played AO |
| 00:58.56 | hugo | anyone know why bartender2_pagemaster give me error "cannot find library instance for babble-spell 2.0" ? |
| 00:59.05 | snurre- | he's used in his current guild since launch, i took it up again and refined it a bit when i migrated and started a new guild |
| 00:59.53 | tekcub | Need a mod name.. |
| 00:59.58 | tekcub | cleaned up http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2594-1-anis-helmncloak-toggle.html |
| 01:00.01 | tekcub | need a name.. |
| 01:00.18 | snurre- | Wizard's Hat And Robe? |
| 01:00.27 | Thiana | The Emperor's New Clothess |
| 01:00.29 | Thiana | The Emperor's New Clothes |
| 01:00.42 | tekcub | >< |
| 01:00.54 | tekcub | I was thinking Helmut or Cloaking Field |
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| 01:01.46 | Mikk | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh |
| 01:01.54 | Mikk | Jamba ringtones in curse gamiing! |
| 01:02.32 | tekcub | yea curse has gotten ad-happy |
| 01:02.42 | Mikk | Mmmm |
| 01:02.44 | Mikk | Flash ad happy |
| 01:02.49 | tekcub | Mikk! help me name mod |
| 01:03.09 | Nox2k3 | So, does anyone know why AceComm-2.0 would tell me I have comms registered but that none of the distros that I specifically registered are registered? |
| 01:03.36 | snurre- | isn't "I put on my wizard's hat and robe" good enough? :( |
| 01:03.40 | Mikk | tekcub: wanna know the one that'll sell the bets? ToggleCloakHelm |
| 01:03.51 | tekcub | fuck selling |
| 01:03.55 | tekcub | I want creativity |
| 01:04.05 | tekcub | and Wizard Hat is just a bad inside joke :) |
| 01:04.17 | snurre- | everyone knows it :p |
| 01:04.52 | Mikk | CloTek? =) |
| 01:05.21 | Mikk | Cloggle? |
| 01:05.33 | tekcub | GiveHead? |
| 01:05.38 | Mikk | huhu |
| 01:05.48 | Mikk | that works :-P |
| 01:06.05 | Mikk | Just tout it as a helm (obtw and cloak) toggler |
| 01:06.32 | tekcub | HatsOff |
| 01:06.37 | tekcub | Capper |
| 01:06.42 | Mikk | Not capper |
| 01:06.45 | Mikk | (flag capping) |
| 01:06.52 | tekcub | Cape-er? |
| 01:06.59 | snurre- | CapnCloak |
| 01:07.01 | Kebinusan | TooSexyForThisCloak |
| 01:07.06 | snurre- | or CapnCape |
| 01:07.17 | Mikk | ClarksPhoneBooth |
| 01:07.18 | tekcub | CapeBGone |
| 01:07.36 | snurre- | Hats R Us |
| 01:07.46 | tekcub | CrazyHatLady |
| 01:07.46 | Kebinusan | DoesThisMakeMeLookFat |
| 01:07.58 | tekcub | nice kem |
| 01:08.01 | tekcub | *keb |
| 01:08.07 | Mikk | HelminHattor |
| 01:08.34 | Mikk | HelmenHator possibly |
| 01:08.40 | Mikk | Er |
| 01:08.42 | tekcub | who are the crazy red hat ladies? |
| 01:08.59 | snurre- | santa's fairies? |
| 01:09.06 | Mikk | Hat/Off |
| 01:09.08 | Mikk | :-P |
| 01:09.24 | tekcub | Cloaker |
| 01:09.29 | tekcub | Caper |
| 01:09.31 | Xuerian | MadHatter |
| 01:09.40 | tekcub | ImBatman |
| 01:09.58 | Mikk | CloakNHatter |
| 01:10.00 | Xuerian | theTelephoneBooth |
| 01:10.19 | mjc | make it part of CG :P |
| 01:10.28 | Mikk | Gumshoe |
| 01:10.45 | Mikk | (Hat, cloak.. P.I... -> Gumshoe) |
| 01:10.49 | eternally777 | HatTrick (Hockey reference) |
| 01:10.54 | tekcub | it's not part of anything... it's 50 lines of LUA |
| 01:11.01 | tekcub | HatTrick I like |
| 01:11.05 | Xuerian | Agreed =D |
| 01:11.08 | tekcub | it's not even ace'd |
| 01:11.56 | snurre- | hm, surprising how much i've missed norwegian music since i moved abroad :p |
| 01:11.57 | Mikk | "How to kill discussion in #wowace" |
| 01:12.04 | Mikk | "It's not even ace:d" |
| 01:12.12 | eternally777 | haha |
| 01:12.29 | eternally777 | I hereby copyright my name and reserve it for an ace'd addon. |
| 01:12.33 | eternally777 | jk :P |
| 01:12.37 | eternally777 | glad you like it |
| 01:13.04 | tekcub | AssCapper |
| 01:13.11 | tekcub | okey HatTrick it is then |
| 01:13.17 | Mikk | AssHat |
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| 01:13.39 | Mikk | HAHAHA |
| 01:13.42 | Mikk | you need to ace it, sorry |
| 01:13.42 | Mikk | AceHat |
| 01:15.14 | snurre- | # Improved Rend - Your Rend ability now deals an additional damage equal to 20/30/40% of your Attack Power over the duration. |
| 01:15.15 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13575 10HatTrick/ (. Core.lua HatTrick.toc): |
| 01:15.15 | CIA-17 | HatTrick - Initial Import |
| 01:15.15 | CIA-17 | - Simply adds checkboxes in the character frame for hiding helmet and cloak. |
| 01:15.32 | snurre- | oh nvm, was just another suggestion |
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| 01:15.53 | mjc | tekcub: cute |
| 01:15.55 | Mikk | tekcub: Does it remove and wear them too? |
| 01:15.58 | snurre- | thought they used another one of the talents i suggested :p |
| 01:16.11 | mjc | Mikk: closetgnome |
| 01:16.13 | tekcub | it's just a toggle in a more convenient place |
| 01:16.15 | tekcub | that's all |
| 01:16.17 | Mikk | Mkay |
| 01:16.33 | Mikk | (You do know that it doesn't show for anyone other than yourself if you don't remove and re-wear, right?) |
| 01:16.45 | mjc | Mikk: untrue |
| 01:16.50 | Mikk | Been fixed? |
| 01:16.56 | mjc | shows up as soon as you hit apply |
| 01:17.01 | mjc | never broken for me |
| 01:17.03 | Mikk | Eh |
| 01:17.08 | Mikk | Always been broken for me |
| 01:17.13 | mjc | two accounts, I've watched it |
| 01:17.16 | mjc | maybe you have a broken mod? |
| 01:17.18 | Azurewrath | same thing as for mikk |
| 01:17.24 | hugo | anyone know why bartender2_pagemaster give me error "cannot find library instance for babble-spell 2.0" ? |
| 01:17.33 | Mikk | mjc: 99.9% certain that's not the case. i've always had it. |
| 01:17.35 | Funkeh` | gn folks :) |
| 01:17.40 | Mikk | and all my guild mates |
| 01:17.40 | cladhaire | haste: You around? |
| 01:17.43 | tekcub | !toc hattrick |
| 01:17.49 | tekcub | !toc HatTrick |
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| 01:19.08 | Thiana | Tekkub: Is ClassWarlockSoulLink.lua supposed to be zero length? |
| 01:19.17 | Tekkub | uh... no... |
| 01:19.38 | Tekkub | go me... |
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| 01:25.59 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13576 10FuBar_CorkFu/ClassWarlockSoulLink.lua: FuBar_CorkFu - I suck (true story) |
| 01:28.41 | mjc | whoever suggested that 1% is too soon, was right |
| 01:28.44 | Tekkub | SVN bot hates me |
| 01:28.49 | Tekkub | !notes BigWigs |
| 01:28.55 | Tekkub | seee? |
| 01:33.39 | eternally777 | !notes BigWigs |
| 01:33.52 | mjc | !notes FuBar_CorkFu |
| 01:33.55 | eternally777 | Don't feel bat |
| 01:34.04 | eternally777 | s/ bat/ bad/ |
| 01:34.15 | eternally777 | Thanks purl. |
| 01:34.34 | mjc | !notes closetgnome |
| 01:35.03 | eternally777 | SVNBot did /wrists? |
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| 01:38.00 | Tekkub | I think I'm gonna have an Adobt-a-mod week |
| 01:38.07 | Tekkub | I've got too many mods to keep up with |
| 01:38.18 | Tekkub | and people keep throwing feature requests at me |
| 01:38.23 | Kalamadi | s/Abodt/Adopt/ |
| 01:39.02 | Tekkub | Abodt? at least my typo was readable |
| 01:40.11 | Kalamadi | Close enough, leemee alone |
| 01:40.13 | Kalamadi | I just woke up |
| 01:41.39 | Tekkub | you're the one pointing out my typos :P |
| 01:41.43 | Tekkub | you started it bitch |
| 01:41.55 | JoshBork1 | maia: ping |
| 01:42.06 | maia | ya? |
| 01:43.05 | mjc | nice, we just ganked rag before the sons for the first time |
| 01:43.22 | JoshBork1 | still working on grid? |
| 01:43.33 | maia | sure |
| 01:44.15 | Josh_Borke | is the code on svn? |
| 01:44.43 | maia | not yet. |
| 01:44.46 | maia | will take a while. |
| 01:44.58 | maia | I'm going to send the code to pastamancer tomorrow, he'll OO it. |
| 01:45.05 | maia | then we'll put it on svn. |
| 01:45.17 | Josh_Borke | still want me to look at working on the frames? |
| 01:45.28 | maia | frames seem to be working |
| 01:46.12 | Josh_Borke | what did you end up with? |
| 01:46.42 | maia | I'm using borders now |
| 01:46.59 | maia | created a small white tga which I'm using as border image |
| 01:47.01 | mjc | and we just totally geared up a mage in 1 run |
| 01:47.01 | Xuerian | How are you working in the red pips? |
| 01:47.05 | maia | plus a padding |
| 01:47.06 | mjc | 4/8 arcanist in one run |
| 01:47.08 | Xuerian | hahaha |
| 01:47.08 | mjc | (her first) |
| 01:47.10 | Xuerian | nice |
| 01:47.29 | Xuerian | Sounds like me in MC, 5/8 cenarion first run :P |
| 01:47.33 | Josh_Borke | maia: cool :-D |
| 01:47.49 | Tekkub | 3/8 Giantstalker on my first |
| 01:47.54 | Tekkub | never got another piece either |
| 01:48.14 | mjc | no perd for me today :( |
| 01:48.18 | Tekkub | and got really bored of MC really fast |
| 01:48.23 | Tekkub | and BWL |
| 01:48.24 | mjc | maybe I'll get some ony loot :p |
| 01:48.29 | Tekkub | I like ZG/AQ20 |
| 01:48.41 | Tekkub | not ony attuned :) |
| 01:48.50 | maia | I still need to reuse frames for the corner indicators. it doesnt make much sense to create 4 frames per unit frame, even if we'll never need all 160 at once. so I'm going to create them on demand and reuse them |
| 01:49.00 | mjc | Tekkub: exalted with zg and hydraxian waterlords on 2 chars |
| 01:49.38 | Xuerian | mjc: Nice rep :P. Monitor working? |
| 01:49.39 | maia | Josh_Borke: how do you like the screenshot? It was fun watching it in AV |
| 01:49.44 | mjc | yes |
| 01:50.06 | mjc | my mage got banned in the last ban wave. guess they thought I was a farmer. going to take 30 days to verify my info |
| 01:50.10 | Josh_Borke | maia: for the corner indicators why not do textures? ^_^ |
| 01:50.28 | Xuerian | 30 days? o_O |
| 01:50.30 | Azurewrath | mjc: exalted with waterlords on 2 chars? Ouch... i learned MC from ground up with one char.. exalted since a half year.. and i _hate_ it now ;) |
| 01:50.41 | maia | Josh_Borke: because it might be better to be able to show/hide them on demand instead of having 160 additional textures? |
| 01:51.15 | mjc | I still like it |
| 01:51.49 | mjc | tired of zg and aq20 |
| 01:52.03 | mjc | I want some more aq40 and maybe some naxx. there's just something about 40mans |
| 01:52.15 | Tekkub | I hate 40's |
| 01:52.27 | Tekkub | they'r e like fucking drill sergent simon says |
| 01:52.37 | mjc | ours are nice and quiet |
| 01:52.40 | Tekkub | follow the leader and shoot at what he tells you to |
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| 01:52.51 | mjc | we all know what to do |
| 01:52.54 | Josh_Borke | maia: alrighty :-) in actuality i don't know which would be better, textures for the low overhead or frames for the ease of transition |
| 01:53.01 | Gngsk | Tekkub, only the trash is like that |
| 01:53.09 | maia | Josh_Borke: we'll see. it should be easy to change it later |
| 01:53.11 | Azurewrath | i love Naxx.. it's just a great design in there.. tired of zg, aq20, mc and bwl though.. |
| 01:53.11 | Tekkub | trash is white |
| 01:54.07 | Josh_Borke | btw, the frames look nice :-) |
| 01:54.29 | Tekkub | a queue on my server? |
| 01:54.33 | Tekkub | WTFChuck? |
| 01:55.24 | Tekkub | I can't force PRaid into being a party frame can I? :P |
| 01:56.38 | Josh_Borke | it's called castparty? o.O |
| 01:56.43 | Azurewrath | guess with a bit hacking here and a little slashing there.. could be possible.. dunno though |
| 01:56.59 | maia | Tekkub: PR is using RosterLib, so it should be easy. |
| 01:57.23 | Tekkub | maybe I'll just tweak watchdog a tad or something |
| 02:00.06 | JoshBorke | hola |
| 02:00.28 | Tain | Wil Wheaton is writing reviews of old Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes and it's pretty damn funny. |
| 02:03.38 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13577 10Antagonist/Antagonist-locale.lua: Antagonist : update locals koKR |
| 02:09.01 | eternally777 | How would one use AceLocale variables inside of an XML file? |
| 02:09.52 | Xuerian | For values in the XML itself, or scripts/events? O_o |
| 02:10.19 | eternally777 | Values in the XML itself |
| 02:10.55 | eternally777 | eg. <... text="(insert acelocale variable here)"/> |
| 02:11.29 | Josh_Borke | eternally777: you can't |
| 02:11.49 | Xuerian | Name = $parentText, in the oninit set parentText:SetText(L["stuff"]) ? |
| 02:12.16 | eternally777 | Wanted to avoid that.. but ok |
| 02:12.59 | mjc | antagonist doesn't seem to do anything :P |
| 02:13.05 | mjc | test works |
| 02:15.26 | eternally777 | :( I got a new keyboard a week ago and I still can't get my hands in the right position... |
| 02:15.33 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13578 10BabbleLib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble : update locals koKR |
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| 02:21.09 | mjc | nice orA cooldown monitor woorks now |
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| 02:22.37 | ckknight | hey all |
| 02:23.52 | Josh_Borke | hi ckknight |
| 02:24.49 | eternally777 | In AceLocale, is it better to use ["Word"] = "Word", or ["Word"] = true,? |
| 02:24.53 | Xuerian | Heya ckknight. |
| 02:25.30 | ckknight | eternally777, the second, because it's easier to manage, regarding CPU usage, if you had a table of a million values, it'd take less than a second to change the trues to the proper values |
| 02:25.39 | ckknight | so the CPU usage issue isn't a problem at all |
| 02:25.48 | ckknight | so I'd say go with ["Word"] = true |
| 02:26.47 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13579 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.toc MendeleevGlobals.koKR.lua): Mendeleev : Added locals koKR |
| 02:30.56 | eternally777 | ckknight: is it possible to retrieve info from other char's SVs? |
| 02:31.11 | ckknight | no |
| 02:31.22 | ckknight | not without h4x |
| 02:31.47 | eternally777 | Can you write h4x? |
| 02:32.00 | ckknight | you write it |
| 02:32.14 | ckknight | it's available, you just deal with the raw table |
| 02:32.23 | ckknight | I thoroughly don't recommend it, btw |
| 02:33.12 | eternally777 | nvm |
| 02:36.02 | maia | yeehah. a side by side comparison of squishy and grid (the latter now has a range check and working aggro indicators): http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7525/gridsquishybc7.png |
| 02:36.20 | Josh_Borke | nicely done maia |
| 02:36.50 | pastamancer | maia: shouldn't you be sleeping?! |
| 02:36.55 | maia | true. |
| 02:37.07 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 02:37.30 | ckknight | nice, maia |
| 02:37.31 | Xuerian | Mmm, very nice Maia, very nice indeed |
| 02:38.23 | ckknight | maia, you may not have heard this before, but: If you put a transparent, mouse-enabled frame in front of the unneeded unit frames, it'd prevent misclicks |
| 02:38.25 | Xuerian | Going to get this on the SVN so we can get used to it? =D |
| 02:38.33 | ckknight | just so you know |
| 02:38.37 | ckknight | I was thinking about it |
| 02:38.39 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13580 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert : Added locals koKR |
| 02:38.50 | maia | Xuerian: yes, in a few days. |
| 02:39.18 | Xuerian | Days? =(... But we're SVN addicts! Hours! HOURS! |
| 02:39.28 | Xuerian | And not of the 78 type. |
| 02:40.05 | pastamancer | haha, if it goes into svn now, I'm sure it will rival aguf with the longest feature request thread ever |
| 02:41.20 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13581 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist - Added dewdrop file to toc (yes I know Im a moron) |
| 02:41.33 | maia | lol |
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| 02:42.21 | Kalamadi | :O |
| 02:42.25 | Sole | hai hai |
| 02:42.33 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 02:42.36 | Xuerian | Haha, entered the realm of Curse I see, Sole |
| 02:42.41 | maia | ckknight: why would one want to prevent misclicks? |
| 02:43.26 | mjc | so you don't heal the wrong person? |
| 02:43.37 | Kalamadi | It looks nice, maia. Are you going to incorporate class/group filtering? |
| 02:43.57 | maia | Kalamadi: yes. read my long post |
| 02:44.06 | Kalamadi | Awww. |
| 02:44.41 | Sole | Xuerian: I entered Curse a long time ago :P |
| 02:44.52 | Xuerian | Lies, all lies =O |
| 02:45.36 | maia | what I like most about Grid is that its only 50% larger than Squishy and can hold much more information due to (partly reactive) modules |
| 02:45.50 | Sole | Xuerian: my first addon was up on Curse on the 25th of january 2005 :P |
| 02:46.05 | Xuerian | Filthy, dirty lies... >.> |
| 02:46.11 | Sole | hehe |
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| 02:48.12 | mjc | Mikma: ping |
| 02:48.37 | Xuerian | Maia: It is certainly more convincing. |
| 02:48.49 | mjc | 140 "Bartender2\StickyFrames.lua:144: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value" |
| 02:48.59 | Sole | that one has been around for a while |
| 02:49.07 | mjc | maia: who wrote it |
| 02:49.22 | mjc | ~seen kergoth |
| 02:49.38 | purl | kergoth is currently on #oe (3d 4h 14m 18s) #wowace (3d 4h 14m 18s) #elinux (3d 4h 14m 18s). Has said a total of 319 messages. Is idling for 4h 16m 33s, last said: 'lern2count might too, that was the new version fo it, but i never tested it'. |
| 02:49.38 | Sole | mjc: maia wrote Grid and Squishy |
| 02:49.39 | maia | ? |
| 02:49.39 | mjc | aha. |
| 02:49.45 | mjc | maia: you spoke about it like a user so I was confused |
| 02:49.53 | mjc | kergoth: asdf |
| 02:50.06 | maia | mjc: well, I'm not only a developer but also user of my own addons ;) |
| 02:50.16 | mjc | heh |
| 02:50.34 | Sole | hehe so am I :) |
| 02:50.43 | Tekkub | ah I love darnasses |
| 02:51.05 | Tekkub | where else can you see a moonkin run by, stop, whip out a big hammer, club a squirrel, and run off |
| 02:51.12 | Tekkub | all without the too-many-people lag |
| 02:51.16 | Xuerian | XD |
| 02:51.42 | mjc | darnassus? :P |
| 02:51.58 | eternally777 | arghuwafud someone needs to write an addon to simply alphabetize recipes in the tradeskill window |
| 02:51.58 | Tekkub | no, darnasses |
| 02:52.02 | eternally777 | That's it: alphabetize them. |
| 02:52.46 | mjc | Xuerian: eeeeeeeee vendor spam |
| 02:52.49 | Josh_Borke | blah, anyone have experience with data synchronization? |
| 02:52.53 | Xuerian | o_o |
| 02:53.12 | mjc | Xuerian: XLM spammed me when I looted enriched manna biscuit x 100 |
| 02:53.16 | Xuerian | lol |
| 02:53.55 | Xuerian | mjc: I'm going to code in substacking in a second, adding a green +# to items that were gotten repeatedly & money |
| 02:54.03 | Xuerian | So it won't add a row, just add to it |
| 02:54.20 | mjc | ah |
| 02:54.37 | Xuerian | That should take care of that and stuff like the faction loot in baron :P |
| 02:55.39 | kergoth | mjc: pong |
| 02:56.14 | mjc | kergoth: much better :) |
| 02:56.31 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13582 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist - Added fenlis and tazmanyak to X-Credits. ^_^ |
| 02:56.50 | mjc | I think I have too many cooldown mods |
| 02:57.11 | Sole | hmm |
| 02:57.16 | Sole | I have my bars hidden |
| 02:57.20 | Sole | and I just use oCD for cooldowns |
| 02:58.55 | mjc | ant, oCD, oRA2_CoolDowns |
| 02:59.09 | kergoth | ant shows enemy cooldowns, not yours.. |
| 02:59.22 | kergoth | and oRA2_Cooldowns should be showing the cooldowns of others in your raid |
| 02:59.22 | mjc | kergoth: I didn't say they were redundant :) |
| 02:59.27 | kergoth | ah :) |
| 02:59.45 | mjc | I still think they should all be one mod |
| 02:59.59 | mjc | as is I can't even make them look the same FFS |
| 03:00.01 | kergoth | ick |
| 03:00.26 | mjc | kergoth: like an elkbuffbar for cooldowns |
| 03:00.35 | kergoth | elkbuffbar doesnt show your enemies buffs |
| 03:00.39 | kergoth | or your raids |
| 03:00.41 | kergoth | its just like oCD |
| 03:00.44 | mjc | I know that |
| 03:00.45 | kergoth | so i dont really see waht you mean there |
| 03:00.48 | mjc | I'm saying layout wise. |
| 03:00.51 | Kalamadi | maia: What about specifying border significance by priority? I.e. cleanse border over aggro for paladins, curse over aggro for mages, etc. |
| 03:01.05 | Xuerian | Why not just make EBB plugin capable? |
| 03:01.11 | kergoth | ebb is for buffs. |
| 03:01.11 | Xuerian | It's already got catagories... |
| 03:01.15 | kergoth | we're talking about cooldowns |
| 03:01.22 | Xuerian | Shush kergoth, I'm going on a tangent. |
| 03:01.23 | kergoth | and the old ebb is unmaintained anyway |
| 03:01.33 | Kalamadi | What's there to maintain? It works. |
| 03:01.36 | Xuerian | :P |
| 03:01.53 | kergoth | but we're talking about future development |
| 03:01.55 | Xuerian | Add EBB_AddItem(Category, Name, Icon, Time) |
| 03:02.01 | kergoth | and futgure development on an unmaintained codebase is pointless |
| 03:02.10 | mjc | red for enemy CD, orange for enemy cast timer, green for raid cast timer, blue for raid buffs, etc. |
| 03:02.11 | Xuerian | What about ebb2? =P |
| 03:02.13 | kergoth | ebb_ace2 is where its at, it just isnt done |
| 03:02.22 | kergoth | ebb2 doesnt have a flexible grouping system |
| 03:02.25 | kergoth | yet |
| 03:02.28 | Xuerian | Mm.... |
| 03:02.42 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13583 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist - Fixed revision string in toc for Wiki |
| 03:02.43 | Xuerian | Even if it's not used for cooldowns, the ability to add your own "buffs" would be fun |
| 03:02.58 | kergoth | well, fubar_tofu does that to oCD |
| 03:03.03 | kergoth | injects a fake "cooldown" for the flight timer |
| 03:03.05 | mjc | Xuerian: Uber Epeen 60m |
| 03:03.20 | mjc | buff |
| 03:03.24 | Xuerian | XD |
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| 03:03.31 | Xuerian | Haha, nice :P |
| 03:03.34 | Sole | enemy CD is handled by Antagonist |
| 03:03.42 | Sole | so is enemy cast timer |
| 03:03.54 | mjc | Sole: I would like to see them all as one mod, buffs and cast timers and cooldowns |
| 03:04.04 | Xuerian | I would like to see them as a framework... |
| 03:04.11 | mjc | I think I'll write plugins for EBB2 to show them all, once it's done |
| 03:04.24 | Sole | !toc Antagonist |
| 03:04.42 | Xuerian | A multiple-anchor countdown display system. >.> |
| 03:04.43 | kergoth | imho, ebb2 needs to let the user create their own arbitary "groups", each with its own anchor, and checkboxes for what will be shown in that group |
| 03:04.53 | kergoth | buffs, debuffs, etc, or just a buff matching a certain pattern |
| 03:04.55 | Sole | mjc: description of Antagonist: Tracks enemy casting times, buffs and cooldowns. |
| 03:05.04 | mjc | Sole: I know what it is |
| 03:05.05 | kergoth | so you could make a seperate group for an important set of buffs, scaled up |
| 03:05.11 | Xuerian | Oo. nifty. |
| 03:05.16 | Xuerian | Can you add your own buffs? :P |
| 03:05.21 | mjc | Sole: I want to see *all* buffs and *all* cooldowns for player raid target enemies etc. in one mod |
| 03:05.52 | Sole | mjc: so you want Antagonist cept with friendly player support? |
| 03:06.31 | kergoth | i think he just wants a framework to display them all in a similar fashion |
| 03:06.37 | Sole | hmm |
| 03:06.39 | kergoth | not necessarily that one addon manage it all |
| 03:06.44 | mjc | kergoth: correct |
| 03:06.53 | Xuerian | Sole: I think he wants to put Chronometer, Antagonist, and EBB into a nice little cage and raise the bastard child of their treasonous threesome |
| 03:06.59 | mjc | one display addon, 3 plugins or something |
| 03:07.06 | Sole | that could be sexy |
| 03:07.08 | mjc | kergoth: oh I have chronometer too |
| 03:07.27 | mjc | chron, ant, ebb, and oCD :p |
| 03:07.30 | Sole | I would gladly rewrite Antagonist to be a plugin to make a sexy lil package that knock off necb |
| 03:07.33 | mjc | and oRA2_CoolDowns |
| 03:07.43 | Sole | so the code all exists |
| 03:07.47 | Xuerian | Mmm, that would be seriously cool o_0 |
| 03:07.51 | Sole | we just need a core that pulls it all together |
| 03:07.54 | mjc | Xuerian: see |
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| 03:08.37 | Xuerian | Very nice.... And hey, dreyruugr. |
| 03:08.47 | kergoth | why couldnt candybar facilitate this? you have a candybar management addon, letting the user manipulate an anchor for each of the available groups for all the addons using them |
| 03:08.54 | kergoth | with checkboxes on each for what you want there |
| 03:08.55 | kergoth | or something |
| 03:09.09 | mjc | good call |
| 03:09.11 | mjc | like deucecommander |
| 03:09.12 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13584 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist - fixed typo in toc |
| 03:09.14 | Sole | hnmm |
| 03:09.17 | mjc | CandyMander |
| 03:09.19 | Sole | !toc Antagonist |
| 03:09.43 | Sole | !TOC Antagonist |
| 03:09.47 | Sole | ~poke SVNBot |
| 03:09.49 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind SVNBot, pokes SVNBot repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 03:09.53 | mjc | the bot's slow today |
| 03:09.54 | mjc | o r dead |
| 03:10.05 | Sole | anyway |
| 03:10.16 | Sole | so lets make CandyMan |
| 03:10.25 | mjc | yeah. |
| 03:10.26 | Xuerian | kergoth: How about providing a timer API instead, that supports stacks by name? Timeworks_AddTimer("Important Buffs", 50000, "ffaabb", "\\funicon.tga", function() doon expire end) or something? o_0 |
| 03:10.26 | mjc | I like that |
| 03:10.43 | mjc | candybar manager is a better ide |
| 03:10.44 | mjc | idea |
| 03:10.47 | Xuerian | Then when that was called, it would either add the timer to the "Important buffs" anchor, or create it so the user can place it wherever? |
| 03:10.53 | mjc | doesn't BW use candybars? |
| 03:11.02 | kergoth | mjc: yep |
| 03:11.04 | mjc | or am I on drugs |
| 03:11.09 | mjc | CandyMan it is then |
| 03:11.10 | kergoth | and candybar has a rudamentary grouping system afaik |
| 03:11.13 | mjc | that's the otehr timer |
| 03:11.15 | kergoth | leverage that |
| 03:11.17 | Xuerian | Oh? Hm |
| 03:11.27 | Xuerian | CandyMan, lol |
| 03:11.28 | mjc | kergoth: I nominate you |
| 03:11.30 | kergoth | in fact, mjc, i was thinking about this just yesterday |
| 03:11.35 | kergoth | because bigwigs bars got crowded |
| 03:11.40 | kergoth | with all the respawn timer and the boss timers in one group |
| 03:11.42 | kergoth | its a mess |
| 03:11.45 | Sole | well are we saying just a candybar manager that controls all candybars or just candybars that use the framework? |
| 03:11.51 | kergoth | give the user the control over what where |
| 03:12.02 | mjc | yes sole |
| 03:12.11 | mjc | it'd have to override anything that the mods set themselves |
| 03:12.13 | kergoth | i'm thinknig an addon that gives the user control over what candybars are displayed in what groups, where |
| 03:12.16 | kergoth | yeah |
| 03:12.18 | mjc | positions colors textures |
| 03:12.20 | Sole | I put down money that we'll see this when ammo hears the idea |
| 03:12.22 | Sole | Ammo: no |
| 03:12.34 | mjc | [ammo] moo |
| 03:13.00 | Sole | kergoth: so we basicly take over control of candybar? |
| 03:13.21 | Sole | I was thinking just a framework that has a set of global options that the plugins use |
| 03:13.32 | Sole | so in effect it uses less memory than using all the addons together |
| 03:13.44 | mjc | I'd rather have a manager first |
| 03:13.54 | Sole | because they would pull their options from the CandyMan db instead of seperate dbs |
| 03:14.35 | mjc | Sole: a manager could just override stuff |
| 03:14.38 | mjc | I'd much rather that |
| 03:14.56 | Sole | mjc but that just seems like a headache |
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| 03:15.32 | Xuerian | Think of it like FuBar for Minimap plugins? o_O |
| 03:15.58 | Sole | how would it override candybars? |
| 03:15.58 | Xuerian | As FuBar is to formerly minimap-plugins, so Candyman is to Timer plugins <.< |
| 03:16.45 | Sole | how would it categorise the candybars? |
| 03:21.38 | mjc | Sole: ant is not showing anything in UD strat so far |
| 03:22.43 | mjc | it showed stuff in MC |
| 03:22.58 | Sole | well it shouldnt really be showing stuff in strat |
| 03:23.05 | Sole | its a pvp addon at heart |
| 03:23.33 | Sole | its probably because the spells the the mobs in UD strat cast arent in the database |
| 03:23.38 | mjc | there we go |
| 03:23.40 | mjc | enrange |
| 03:23.42 | mjc | enrage |
| 03:23.52 | Sole | well it pulls out the warrior enrage time |
| 03:24.03 | Sole | bosses/mobs have different times Im pretty sure |
| 03:24.56 | mjc | I'm going to write a CG_BlackPlague or something like that soon |
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| 03:25.18 | Sole | whats the CG stand for? |
| 03:25.55 | mjc | closetgnome |
| 03:26.09 | Sole | oh |
| 03:26.15 | Sole | wtf damn curse |
| 03:26.30 | Sole | "An unknown error has occured" when trying to upload a new version |
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| 03:27.15 | mjc | Xuerian: need a way to hide the loot by clicking or something |
| 03:27.55 | Xuerian | mjc: Should be able to do that. |
| 03:28.00 | Sole | hmmm |
| 03:28.09 | Sole | I just recieved an interesting suggestion for ant |
| 03:28.18 | mjc | Xuerian: cause I see like 10 loots or somethinga nd then 10 more that were looted 10 seconds ago were shown after |
| 03:28.23 | Sole | when you dispel a spell from an enemy - show a short bar shwoing which spell you dispeled |
| 03:29.38 | Sole | nobody would be interested in that? |
| 03:30.08 | mjc | neat |
| 03:31.34 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13585 10Prat/modules/TellTarget.lua: Prat : update locals koKR |
| 03:32.54 | Xuerian | mjc: Not sure what you mean. 10 items were just looted, and 10 past items were shoved up above them, and that's just too many, essentially? The threshold didn't catch that? |
| 03:33.12 | mjc | Xuerian: 10 came up, then they went away, and old items then showed up |
| 03:33.20 | mjc | after the first 10 or whatever |
| 03:33.24 | Xuerian | o_o |
| 03:33.27 | mjc | I have no idea how many the first were. more than 5 :p |
| 03:33.44 | Xuerian | old items shouldn't be coming back from the land of the hidden frames >_< |
| 03:34.03 | mjc | they had not yet been displayed |
| 03:34.32 | mjc | ok |
| 03:34.48 | mjc | Xuerian: each person loots 2 items |
| 03:35.02 | mjc | 10 items are shown, 10 have yet to be shown |
| 03:35.11 | mjc | when the first 10 fade, the second 10 show |
| 03:35.26 | mjc | no indication that there were more to show |
| 03:35.36 | Xuerian | Weird... |
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| 03:35.46 | Xuerian | They shouldn't be showing in waves o_O |
| 03:35.52 | mjc | s/10/x/ |
| 03:37.58 | Xuerian | Snap a shot of it if you can next time if there's anything to see, I think I saw it once myself. I'm making a event generation button so I should be able to test it myself... tired of typing it out :P |
| 03:41.47 | PProvost | Hey kiddos |
| 03:44.39 | mjc | ah |
| 03:44.42 | mjc | antagonist bombing |
| 03:45.01 | mjc | attempt to index field ? (nil) at line 508 |
| 03:45.10 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13586 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist - Dispelling a buff which has a corresponding bar will now stop the bar. |
| 03:45.28 | Sole | uhm |
| 03:45.36 | Sole | mjc: Antagonist isnt 500 lines long |
| 03:45.58 | Sole | since IVe moved the AceOptions table to its own file |
| 03:46.02 | Xuerian | mjc: do you have bugsack? |
| 03:46.12 | Xuerian | Oh, nevermind |
| 03:46.13 | Xuerian | :P |
| 03:46.30 | Sole | so update your Ant as Ive fixed a number of bugs |
| 03:46.42 | mjc | am |
| 03:48.49 | mjc | cp -r = win |
| 03:50.23 | Xuerian | mjc: I see what it is, sometimes it isn't able to catch the aceevent and unregister it... hm |
| 03:50.39 | Xuerian | mjc: so the normal timeout is kicking in then fading it out from full alpha |
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| 03:51.29 | mjc | yep |
| 03:51.59 | malreth | purl, mjc |
| 03:52.01 | purl | mjc owes malreth 50s. |
| 03:53.41 | [FH]Birdemani | any chance to get a timer added to grobbulus? every 15 seconds he drops a toxic cloud on the MT |
| 03:59.42 | mjc | ~seen krtek |
| 03:59.54 | purl | krtek <n=krtek@dhcp-83-219-107-102.customers.tvtnet.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 32m 32s ago, saying: 'I have to go :D Good evening '. |
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| 04:00.09 | mjc | is it possible to hide the tabs on the caht stuff? |
| 04:04.49 | PProvost | caht? |
| 04:05.31 | CIA-17 | 03hshh * r13587 10BabbleLib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:05.31 | CIA-17 | Babble-Zone: |
| 04:05.32 | CIA-17 | - update Everlook zhCN locale |
| 04:08.51 | Xuerian | Fixed it, mjc. Tweaking some things, adding substacking then comitting :D |
| 04:08.56 | mjc | k |
| 04:09.06 | mjc | well we're close to baron :P |
| 04:09.09 | mjc | then I'm goin to sleep |
| 04:09.16 | Xuerian | :P |
| 04:16.20 | PProvost | Hey guys, I'm trying Clique for the first time and not sure what to do. Can someone give me some pointers? I'm using agUF too. |
| 04:16.32 | haste | morning |
| 04:16.43 | haste | cladhaire: I'm awake now if :) |
| 04:16.47 | haste | s/if// |
| 04:17.07 | Xuerian | PProvost: Open your spellbook, click the bunny, click whatever spell you want to cast WITH teh button you want to use to cast it :) |
| 04:17.25 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r13588 10XLootMonitor/ (3 files): XLootMonitor: Fixed: Ghost fade events. Die, rows, die. Added: initial dummy handler tests. Advanced -> Test Handlers. Tweaked: Wording in options for x/y offsets |
| 04:17.46 | PProvost | Bunny? :D I'll take a look. Thanks X |
| 04:17.57 | PProvost | ahha |
| 04:18.04 | PProvost | DIdn't expect to find it there. Thanks |
| 04:18.14 | Xuerian | hehe, clique <3 |
| 04:19.53 | PProvost | Care to share some usage tips? |
| 04:20.08 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13589 10BabbleLib/Babble-Boss-2.0/Babble-Boss-2.0.lua: Babble-Boss-2.0 : update locals koKR |
| 04:20.19 | haste | ah, nothing beats showing up for every progress raid, and when it's a loot raid - you don't get a spot |
| 04:21.51 | Xuerian | PProvost: Make sure you add a click handler for the unitframe options (eg: Alt+Rightclick). Click New and configure it. Then right click in the script area and choose Clique:UnitMenu() or similar, save it with whatever icon you want :)... That is, if you bind a spell over rightclick |
| 04:22.34 | PProvost | I don't understand. Is this to enable or prevent the aguf options menu? |
| 04:22.54 | Xuerian | Nooo, if you bind say, "Regrowth" to right click on friendly, that would prevent the normal player menu from popping up. |
| 04:22.58 | Xuerian | So you need to add your own. |
| 04:23.10 | PProvost | Oh |
| 04:23.12 | PProvost | Okay |
| 04:23.13 | Xuerian | The aguf menu will come up when you click with any unbound click |
| 04:23.18 | PProvost | ok |
| 04:23.39 | PProvost | Suggestions on bindings? Since you mention Regrowth, I assume you're a druid. How are you setup? |
| 04:23.42 | Xuerian | Also bind one to target unit :) again right click in the text frame to get the list of Clique: functions. |
| 04:25.00 | Xuerian | Leftclick: Regrowth, middle: motw, right regrowth (I have special binds for them to cast whichever isn't already on the unit, want them?), shift-left max healing touch, shift middle thorns, ctrl+shift+alt+left innervate, shift-ctrl left rank4 ht, shiftctrl right ht7 |
| 04:25.19 | Xuerian | (the special binds will be borked come tbc, of course) |
| 04:25.44 | PProvost | Hokay...I get it. That gives me some ideas. |
| 04:25.54 | PProvost | Do you use the EfficientHeal and EmergencyHeal functions? |
| 04:25.59 | Xuerian | errrr right rejouv X.x |
| 04:26.21 | Xuerian | Anyway, I use effheal in my out of combat shift-leftclick bind |
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| 04:26.38 | PProvost | Okay... that gives me some ideas. Thanks much. |
| 04:26.39 | Xuerian | but otherwise I just bind max/4/7 and use what's needed :P |
| 04:27.10 | PProvost | Right. |
| 04:27.15 | PProvost | Very cool. |
| 04:27.31 | haste | I was thinking of making a dewdrop list for click-casting actually :p |
| 04:27.47 | Xuerian | To get ready for bc style, haste? :p |
| 04:27.51 | haste | no? |
| 04:28.05 | Xuerian | Oh o.0. hm... How would you go about using it? |
| 04:28.05 | haste | but I don't play my shaman much anymore, and I have 8 bindings on it :p |
| 04:28.10 | haste | so for 5-man, it would be ncie |
| 04:29.02 | Xuerian | Ahhh |
| 04:36.54 | mjc | yay finally got my last SC piece. now to debate darkmantle. |
| 04:37.30 | mjc | I don't think it's worth the gold, but I dunno I've waited 3 months for a decent head peice |
| 04:37.32 | mjc | piece |
| 04:38.57 | Sole | dont bother |
| 04:39.17 | mjc | I'm like the lowest dkp on the chart, be a while bfore I get lucky |
| 04:39.20 | Sole | I hear items from hellfire citadel can replace some BWL/AQ40 gear |
| 04:39.27 | Xuerian | Better or not, it looks freaking cool |
| 04:39.30 | mjc | probably |
| 04:39.37 | Sole | doesnt look that cool |
| 04:39.40 | mjc | dunno if I'm going to buy the epx |
| 04:39.42 | mjc | exp |
| 04:39.49 | Sole | imo bloodfang is the best looking rogue set |
| 04:39.58 | Sole | looks sexier than deathdealers and bonescythe |
| 04:40.00 | mjc | Sole: agreed |
| 04:40.21 | Sole | heh lucky I got my full bf and now Im guildless but with epix ^_^ |
| 04:40.27 | mjc | haha |
| 04:40.31 | mjc | noob |
| 04:40.36 | Sole | =[ |
| 04:40.42 | Sole | well my guild is back now |
| 04:40.59 | Sole | disbanded around january/feb |
| 04:41.04 | Sole | reformed a few months ago |
| 04:41.19 | Sole | but they changed the raiding time =[ gg timezones |
| 04:41.28 | haste | glad I don't have that problem |
| 04:41.39 | Sole | heh its rather annoying for me |
| 04:41.47 | haste | I already sleep around 5-6h today |
| 04:41.57 | haste | so switching raid time would hit me hard |
| 04:42.17 | Sole | previously the raids would start an hour before I got home or depending on daylight savings at the exact time I got home |
| 04:42.22 | Sole | but now they start at 2pm |
| 04:42.28 | Sole | which sucks donkey balls |
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| 04:42.59 | haste | I'm home at 2pm everyday :3 |
| 04:43.14 | haste | except for the loot days (ie. today) |
| 04:45.09 | Sole | well I could join an aussie guild instead |
| 04:45.14 | Sole | raids start at like 10pm |
| 04:45.17 | Sole | which sucks too |
| 04:46.19 | Sole | does anyone know what font supports UTF-8? |
| 04:46.24 | haste | all? |
| 04:46.27 | Sole | hmm |
| 04:46.39 | Azurewrath | hehe.. never thought of that problematic.. we mostly have German/Austrian/Swiss Players in our Guild and on the Server.. we all share the same timezone :) |
| 04:46.40 | Sole | well I just downloaded the latest editplus2 and the korean letters are funny |
| 04:47.14 | Sole | well Azurewrath: I could move to the oceanic servers but most guilds there are aussie too..more new zealanders like me but still |
| 04:47.20 | Sole | my server is too pro to leave |
| 04:47.29 | Sole | I love it here =] |
| 04:47.52 | Azurewrath | hehe |
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| 04:48.04 | Sole | blackrock is probably one of the dirtiest servers |
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| 04:48.17 | Sole | most servers in our battlegroup dont play cheap like we do |
| 04:48.42 | Sole | we just learned to be complete assholes over the past 2 years we've been on the server |
| 04:48.52 | haste | you can come EU! our raids start 12h from now :3 |
| 04:48.58 | Sole | lawl |
| 04:49.00 | Sole | thats 6am |
| 04:49.02 | Xuerian | Hahaha. |
| 04:49.05 | Xuerian | Blackrock? |
| 04:49.06 | Sole | yep |
| 04:49.07 | haste | I'ts 7am here now :3 |
| 04:49.14 | Xuerian | You guys raid my server when yours is down |
| 04:49.19 | Xuerian | What server do I play on?! XD |
| 04:49.19 | Sole | Argent Dawn? |
| 04:49.22 | Xuerian | haha yeah |
| 04:49.26 | Sole | =] |
| 04:49.41 | Sole | blackrock has a pretty good community |
| 04:49.41 | Xuerian | dirty naked gnome lemmings. :P |
| 04:49.45 | Sole | kek |
| 04:49.49 | Sole | I do et |
| 04:49.52 | Azurewrath | bur! |
| 04:49.57 | haste | uden lars |
| 04:50.03 | Xuerian | lol |
| 04:50.11 | Sole | I love the x-realm bgs |
| 04:50.23 | Sole | a few days ago we had an alliance guy come on our forums bitching about a rogue speedhacking |
| 04:50.26 | Xuerian | I love them too... Just because I can link so many more items |
| 04:50.31 | Sole | general response: l2prepsprint |
| 04:50.48 | Sole | then the guy made another post |
| 04:51.09 | Sole | "Please explain to me how he could use a 10 minute cooldown TWICE in a 40 minute game!?" |
| 04:51.17 | Sole | ... |
| 04:51.20 | kergoth | hahah |
| 04:51.25 | Zicon | Tell me you're joking. |
| 04:51.25 | Xuerian | ... |
| 04:51.33 | Sole | nope |
| 04:51.38 | Azurewrath | mhm... PEBKAC :) |
| 04:51.42 | ckknight_ | given matrix M of size m x n, multiplied by unknown vector X of size m, you get a known vector V of size n. What is X? |
| 04:52.18 | Sole | uhm |
| 04:52.19 | Sole | bur? |
| 04:52.36 | ckknight | basically M*X = V, you know M and V |
| 04:52.43 | ckknight | solve for X |
| 04:52.48 | gxam | M^-1*V |
| 04:52.51 | ckknight | right |
| 04:52.54 | ckknight | that's what I was thinking |
| 04:52.59 | Azurewrath | Xuerian: Your equipped items suffer a 10% durability loss. |
| 04:53.03 | gxam | except M^-1 is usually a pain in the ass or impossible |
| 04:53.05 | ckknight | but I don't know how to get M^-1, since it's not a square matrix |
| 04:53.24 | gxam | it's been way too long, i don't remember my matrix classes :< |
| 04:53.46 | PProvost | Actually, given the question I think you know that m and n are equal, don't you? |
| 04:54.02 | PProvost | Hmmmm |
| 04:54.11 | PProvost | Been 17 years since that class... |
| 04:54.13 | Xuerian | Azurewrath: Nuuuuuuu |
| 04:54.39 | PProvost | I'm sure it is in my "Matricies and Linear Equations" book at the office. :D |
| 04:56.14 | Kemayo | I never had a good grasp of matrices. I think because my math classes never managed to demonstrate a situation where they might be used for something. |
| 04:56.37 | Kemayo | This might change when I hit my mid-level college classes, though. Maybe. |
| 04:57.08 | haste | Kemayo: moving an icon around the minimap, with sinus/cosinus positions! |
| 04:57.12 | PProvost | They are essential to working w/ 3D graphics. |
| 04:57.18 | haste | oh, wait |
| 04:57.23 | haste | I should read more :3 |
| 04:58.07 | Kemayo | PProvost: I've heard, though I'm not sure why. :) |
| 04:58.53 | ckknight | PProvost, m and n are not equal, |
| 05:03.20 | Xuerian | Kemayo: Same, I didn't learn anything when they don't give examples of where it could actually be used =\ |
| 05:04.11 | Xuerian | s/don't/didn't/ |
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| 05:21.48 | Slayman | ~literate Jabber |
| 05:21.59 | Slayman | purl, ping |
| 05:22.01 | purl | pong |
| 05:22.24 | Slayman | one of you might be able to help me |
| 05:22.26 | mjc | ~literal jabber |
| 05:22.27 | purl | "jabber" is "at http://www.jabber.org, http://www.jabber.com, http://www.jabbercentral.com and http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/jabberpy or an instant messaging system, or jabberstudio.org and planet.jabber.org" |
| 05:22.49 | Slayman | name the best windows client for Jabber |
| 05:24.19 | Sole | ["Fire Reflector"] = "??? ?? ???", - if I save this file then the localization will get screwed up, right? |
| 05:24.45 | BoltR | It depends |
| 05:25.05 | BoltR | That means your editor doesn't support the encoding, or that the font doesn't support that language |
| 05:25.30 | BoltR | if it's just the font then it shouldn't |
| 05:26.08 | mjc | if you don't touch those, they should be fine |
| 05:26.11 | mjc | Slayman: gaim |
| 05:26.55 | Slayman | gaim > miranda? |
| 05:27.00 | mjc | imo, yes |
| 05:27.07 | Sole | well when I updated EditPlus today the characters changed |
| 05:27.13 | Sole | from ??? to the funky squares |
| 05:27.28 | mjc | editplus gained utf8 support then |
| 05:27.38 | mjc | funky squares means font doesn't support it |
| 05:28.13 | Sole | good |
| 05:28.40 | Xuerian | Slayman: Gaim is decent, miranda is lighter and made for windows, but can be buggy. Make your own choice :) |
| 05:29.22 | BoltR | I find miranda's plugin support for more protocols to be pretty bad |
| 05:29.31 | Slayman | Xuerian: k First Shot will be Gaim until I'm disappointed :D |
| 05:30.26 | Xuerian | BoltR: Aim doesn't have icons, it doesn't support video/audio or "Plus" features from other networks. Otherwise it's fairly fine for plugins written mostly by the community :) |
| 05:30.45 | Xuerian | Plus it doesn't rely on GTK for skinning and can look pretty damn good, where gaim can't quite match ;) |
| 05:31.21 | Xuerian | BoltR: But really, I agree, some of it's protocol plugins are sketchy :) |
| 05:31.22 | Slayman | i used to use Suse Linux earlier so i might be somewhat used to gaim, let's find out |
| 05:31.24 | BoltR | Xuerian, to be honest I haven't used it in quite a while |
| 05:31.37 | Xuerian | BoltR: It's changed quite a bit, then |
| 05:31.38 | BoltR | When I did I ended up dropping it because of sketchy plugins |
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| 05:32.01 | BoltR | As for the skinning, I just have gaim using my windows theme, so it looks fine |
| 05:33.29 | Xuerian | BoltR: Yeah, it does a good job of matching windows themes, just not skinning in the visually pleasing sense. THen again, to be fair, I haven't tried it in a decent while, so that could've changed. |
| 05:34.24 | CIA-17 | 03curney * r13591 10Prat/ (Bindings.xml modules/Keybindings.lua modules/TellTarget.lua): |
| 05:34.24 | CIA-17 | Prat : |
| 05:34.25 | CIA-17 | - added keybinding for TellTarget |
| 05:34.25 | CIA-17 | - reworked slashcommand for TellTarget |
| 05:34.25 | CIA-17 | - added localization to Keybindings |
| 05:34.42 | mjc | Curney: is it possible to hide the chat tabs w/ prat? |
| 05:35.08 | Curney | you mean like make the tabs themselves not visible? |
| 05:35.50 | mjc | correct |
| 05:38.16 | mjc | hum |
| 05:39.04 | Curney | there is probably room for a frames modules |
| 05:39.14 | Curney | s/modules/module |
| 05:39.35 | mjc | ckknight: ping |
| 05:39.38 | mjc | ~seen ckknight |
| 05:39.46 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 40m 53s, last said: 'PProvost, m and n are not equal,'. |
| 05:39.52 | Curney | there are a couple requests to do things like change padding on the chatframes, have a keybinding to toggle through chatframes, etc. |
| 05:39.53 | ckknight | hey mjc |
| 05:39.56 | ckknight | working on matrix math. |
| 05:40.24 | mjc | ckknight: when an aceevent addon screws itself, it screws all aceevent-enabled addons that load after it |
| 05:40.34 | ckknight | k. |
| 05:40.42 | ckknight | better fix that first addon, eh? |
| 05:40.55 | PProvost | lol |
| 05:41.08 | Greywind | ckknight: lol |
| 05:41.14 | mjc | can you at least do something to prevent it from spitting out (seriously, literally) 4,612 errors ? |
| 05:41.37 | mjc | "Last message repeated 4,612 times" in bugsack |
| 05:41.48 | mjc | good thing bugsack loaded before offending addon |
| 05:43.13 | kergoth | hahah, ouch |
| 05:43.41 | mjc | oh, and oddly, when this thing happens (has happened to more than one addon), it's "attempt to index field '?' (nil value) |
| 05:43.45 | Slayman | annoying! why can't gaim connect my ICQ Account? |
| 05:44.01 | kergoth | gaim works fine for me with icq |
| 05:44.09 | mjc | Slayman: id10t error |
| 05:45.45 | mjc | kergoth: possible it might be svkco.py? it always seems to be the last addon or two, maybe an offbyone |
| 05:46.55 | Slayman | mjc: sending cookie and no furhter |
| 05:47.26 | mjc | Slayman: id10t error |
| 05:47.52 | mjc | purl: emulate mjc is <reply> id10t error. |
| 05:47.55 | purl | ...but emulate mjc is already something else... |
| 05:48.14 | mjc | purl: emulate mjc is also <reply> id10t error. |
| 05:48.16 | purl | okay, mjc |
| 05:48.16 | Slayman | well i don't care if u are an idiot or not, what might this be ? |
| 05:49.01 | mjc | I don't even have an ICQ account, but it works for everyone else |
| 05:49.54 | mjc | IM clients are relatively braindead easy |
| 05:50.04 | mjc | if it isn't working it's probably your own issue :p |
| 05:51.38 | mjc | ckknight: I think it might be the machine |
| 05:51.55 | ckknight | how do you know about the machine? |
| 05:52.03 | mjc | haha |
| 05:52.10 | mjc | temps have been wonky for a couple weeks |
| 05:52.18 | mjc | and had other wonky issues |
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| 05:56.09 | mjc | !notes ColaLight |
| 05:56.32 | kergoth | mjc: not likely, svkco doesnt touch the contents of the addon |
| 05:56.52 | mjc | kergoth: I mean it might be missing an external or smth |
| 06:08.44 | ckknight | okay, given matrix M of size m x n, multiplied by unknown vector X of size m, you get a known vector V of size n. X has 3 nonzero values and m - 3 zero values. What is X? |
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| 06:11.30 | oxman | your problem is fun ckknight xD |
| 06:11.39 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 06:11.49 | mjc | 42 |
| 06:11.55 | oxman | its false. |
| 06:12.02 | oxman | X = 347 |
| 06:12.05 | oxman | it can be true |
| 06:12.09 | oxman | "X has 3 nonzero values" |
| 06:12.10 | oxman | xD |
| 06:12.14 | mjc | oxman: 42 is a literature reference |
| 06:12.16 | oxman | ups sorry |
| 06:12.21 | oxman | {3, 4, 7} |
| 06:12.22 | oxman | xD |
| 06:12.26 | oxman | ok sorry |
| 06:12.26 | oxman | :p |
| 06:12.46 | mjc | oxman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything |
| 06:13.07 | oxman | :p |
| 06:13.14 | oxman | I remember now :D |
| 06:14.13 | mjc | ckknight: ok, seems like fubar_garbagefu is the source of the issue. last fwe commits |
| 06:14.29 | mjc | ckknight: just thought I'd let you know :) |
| 06:17.27 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13592 10Prat/modules/ (Keybindings.lua TellTarget.lua): Prat : update locals koKR |
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| 06:30.21 | Sole | hay Elkano |
| 06:30.29 | Sole | and idea was tossed around earlier today |
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| 06:31.57 | Slayman | KISS MY HAIRY ASS! |
| 06:32.36 | Slayman | mjc: your id10t error is not that idiot at all: |
| 06:32.36 | Slayman | GTK+ 2.8.x Unable to connect - It is not currently possible to use any version of WinGaim with any 2.8.x version of GTK+. Attempting to do so will result in an inability to connect and/or frequent disconnections. The issue is specifically in Glib 2.8.x. For those interested in the technical details, the GIOChannel implementation has been rewritten and appears to have some quirks - see the following bugzilla entry. |
| 06:32.57 | Chickflick | do you always download with externals? |
| 06:33.03 | mjc | shrug |
| 06:33.20 | Slayman | Chickflick: i do, yes |
| 06:33.27 | mjc | Slayman: not reading documentation. id10t error |
| 06:34.47 | Xuerian | Slayman: Just use miranda or trillian |
| 06:34.48 | Slayman | not in the docs, just on the windows port page, who would have thought of something like that anyway? besides IRCing with Gaim is kinda comfortable |
| 06:35.57 | mjc | where'd you get it? windows port page? |
| 06:36.22 | Slayman | no gaim main page |
| 06:38.14 | mjc | used to only have downloads on windows port page |
| 06:39.39 | Slayman | i went main page, clicked download and there was my compiled binary |
| 06:45.06 | Slayman | nevertheless it's acceptable |
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| 06:46.36 | Slayman | bigger font size way better to read! |
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| 06:50.58 | Laricwork | I noticed that autobar is ace 2.0 based now |
| 06:51.16 | kergoth | new autobar seems nice. still a beast though, need to make that config LoD or something |
| 06:51.28 | Sole | hmm |
| 06:51.34 | Laricwork | I just mean it is going in the right direction |
| 06:51.34 | Sole | kergoth: how serious were you about CandyMan? |
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| 06:52.00 | kergoth | just throwing ideas around. dunno if i actually feel like coding it, my motivation to code is shot nowadays :( |
| 06:52.12 | Sole | because of the BC changes? |
| 06:52.50 | Sole | well I think a complete CandyBar manager is a bit weird...at least I wouldnt use it |
| 06:52.58 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:53.12 | Xuerian | heya. |
| 06:53.20 | Laricwork | I sure hope they are gonna put a ptr with wow 2.0 soonish so we can start fixing the addons.. it doesnt have to be the new tbc content.. just how a non tbc buyer will see it so we can fix everything before release... there will be heaps of work as I see it |
| 06:53.29 | Sole | however I think having a core addon which supports plugins which would act like Antagonist and Chronometer would be nifty |
| 06:53.39 | mjc | I like both ideas |
| 06:54.44 | Sole | hmm I dunno though |
| 06:55.12 | Sole | having an addon whose modules are basicly Antagonist, Chronometer, EBB and oRA2 Raid Buffs seems a bit...overwhelming |
| 06:55.22 | Sole | aint that a bit much? |
| 06:55.36 | Xuerian | It would require some re-writes in addons that might employ it, but I think it'd make more sense to make it a elective framework instead of a overlord type |
| 06:56.21 | kergoth | personally, i like the idea of being able to create an anchor and enable displaying my buffs, my cooldowns, and whatever else i want shown there. i think that control belongs in the hands of the user |
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| 06:57.00 | Xuerian | Agreed |
| 06:57.08 | Sole | there is a rather primitive version of that in Antagonist |
| 06:57.27 | Sole | the user has control over the anchor that buffs, casts and cooldowns appear under |
| 06:57.41 | Sole | would need to expand on it though |
| 06:58.20 | Xuerian | I've got a fully dynamic anchor system in Monitor, but it doesn't have any ordering code and a good bit of it is still specific... |
| 06:59.03 | mjc | cool. |
| 07:01.18 | Sole | so basicly addons would still remain their own addons but would just employ the framework instead of handling the anchors themselves? |
| 07:01.43 | Xuerian | That's the idea I like, I know there were two visions :) |
| 07:01.57 | Sole | I quite like that |
| 07:02.09 | Sole | the second vision being: addons would be rewritten into modules? |
| 07:02.14 | kergoth | sounds good to me. we've seen the problems with addons like visor trying to exert control despite an addon's wishes, it leads to confusion if the user tries to manipulate it via both |
| 07:02.30 | Sole | hmm |
| 07:02.46 | Sole | would the framework be embedded or an addon? |
| 07:03.01 | Sole | im thinking an addon |
| 07:03.02 | mjc | extend candybars? |
| 07:03.08 | Sole | unless there is some way to embed it |
| 07:03.13 | Sole | [Ammo]: no |
| 07:03.15 | Xuerian | Yeah, kergoth is right. And Sole, it could well be plugins/modules if people want to play that way. or it could be made into a embed and handle a global list of anchors |
| 07:03.24 | kergoth | only downside to embedding is management of the savedvars |
| 07:03.38 | kergoth | but theres no reason it cant be stored in the db of the addon itself |
| 07:03.48 | kergoth | so could certainly embed. *shrug* |
| 07:03.58 | Sole | that could lead to conflictions |
| 07:04.08 | Sole | one addon has some info stored in it |
| 07:04.15 | Sole | and another has different info stored in it |
| 07:04.15 | Xuerian | When the addon registers a anchor/bar it should automatically pull the settings for it from it's own db, I don't see what the problem is, really |
| 07:04.22 | Sole | which one would the framework use? |
| 07:04.35 | Xuerian | Ah.... |
| 07:04.55 | Xuerian | A timestamp on which is most recent, perhaps? |
| 07:05.00 | Sole | hmm |
| 07:05.02 | Sole | mabe |
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| 07:05.17 | Sole | well basicly the purpose of CandyMan..Ive gotta get my head around it |
| 07:05.22 | Laricwork | wouldnt it be so that each addons pertinent info is stored in that addon's db? |
| 07:05.25 | Xuerian | Ideally, the only conflicting setting would be anchoring options (SetPoint's) and the anchor position |
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| 07:05.43 | Sole | well I thought the whole point of the framework was anchor control |
| 07:06.02 | Sole | as in all the addon would do would be framework:AquireAnchor() or something |
| 07:06.15 | Laricwork | store the main anchor in blizzards normal frame positioning? |
| 07:06.47 | Xuerian | And that's not too bad. Say..... Antagonist_CM was diabled but Chronometer_CM was left enabled, and the anchor that was shared by spell cooldowns both friendly and hostile was moved.... in this case, it seems like it'd be good to keep the most recent change |
| 07:06.57 | Laricwork | and each addon is relative to the main anchor? |
| 07:06.57 | Sole | and all the framework would actually do is create anchors and hold a table which tells it which anchor to show which category under |
| 07:07.32 | Sole | hmm true |
| 07:08.11 | Sole | basicly all the framework actually does is controls under which anchor hostile casts, buffs, cooldowns, friendly shit, etc appear |
| 07:08.23 | Xuerian | It would also need to handle row re-ordering for CB i'd assume |
| 07:08.41 | Xuerian | Or provide a wrapper to the actual cb object each anchor used? (Never used cb... >_>) |
| 07:09.02 | Sole | hmmm |
| 07:09.06 | Sole | oh god this is turning out weird |
| 07:09.13 | Xuerian | XD |
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| 07:09.29 | Sole | i think the simpler solution would be an overlord system :P |
| 07:09.39 | kergoth | meh, CG isnt smart enough to make it very useful, especially in pvp, at least the way i have my sets done |
| 07:09.49 | kergoth | needs the knowledge to revert individual slots, not just to the previous set |
| 07:09.59 | kergoth | hrm |
| 07:11.06 | BoltR | Err, what is it doing wrong? |
| 07:11.18 | Sole | that way with a module system all the modules would each represent each addon or the addon would be split into multiple modules...for example I would probably split Antagonist into hbuffs, hcooldowns, hcasts |
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| 07:13.26 | Sole | guess not :P |
| 07:17.13 | Xuerian | -horrible- late night psudo code: http://ace.pastey.net/1476 |
| 07:17.56 | Xuerian | of course it doesn't make sense to put both those in cooldowns but that's the general idea |
| 07:19.54 | Tem | http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats.htm |
| 07:20.34 | Xuerian | I hereby charge you with murder of a dialup modem |
| 07:20.52 | Xuerian | You're sentenced to watching baby jesus cry from the excruciatingly slow speed |
| 07:21.00 | Sole | thaats what I had in mind also Xuerian |
| 07:21.35 | Tem | lol @ dialup |
| 07:22.35 | Xuerian | Of course the AddTimer calls should return a reference to the bar itself so it could be canceled |
| 07:22.41 | Xuerian | But yeah |
| 07:22.45 | Sole | DO YOU WANT KARATE? |
| 07:23.01 | kergoth | BoltR: equip a set with all your slots, then equip a set with just one slot, then mount, which affects more than just the one slot. when it unmounts, it re-equips the one item set, but the mount slots are still there, since it didnt revert to full set + one item set |
| 07:23.07 | Xuerian | I want something other than karate, but you can't give it to me. >_> |
| 07:23.13 | Slayman | I'm in ur server, stealing ur dataz :-D |
| 07:23.17 | kergoth | BoltR: in short, it re-equips the previous set, doesnt revert each slot to its previous contents |
| 07:23.43 | kergoth | and the last thing you want in a critical fight is you find yourself in battle with a fucking mount trinket |
| 07:23.51 | BoltR | Ah right |
| 07:24.55 | Sole | http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats_files/keyboard.jpg |
| 07:24.59 | Sole | one of my favs I think |
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| 07:25.51 | ckknight | I like http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/cats_files/cookie.jpg |
| 07:26.41 | Sole | yea that one is awesome also |
| 07:27.51 | ckknight | cat looks so sad and embarassed |
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| 07:28.51 | Sole | !toc Antagonist |
| 07:29.01 | Sole | ok guess the bot is dead |
| 07:29.05 | Sole | cya guys |
| 07:29.11 | Sole | Im actually gonna play wow |
| 07:29.13 | Sole | instead of coding |
| 07:29.20 | Sole | yay4me |
| 07:29.32 | ckknight | about to do that myself :-P |
| 07:29.58 | Xuerian | Play..... wow....? |
| 07:30.00 | Xuerian | What's.... that? |
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| 07:30.56 | mjc | wb ckk |
| 07:30.59 | Cartas | Servers are down :o |
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| 07:44.04 | Xuerian | Bah.... Have to re-do money handling, should've handled it by copper only earlier.... Ah well, at least item substacking is done, I'll commit that tomorrow when I re-do money handling, mjc |
| 07:44.16 | Xuerian | For now, bed calls, night all :P |
| 07:44.22 | mjc | night |
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| 07:49.28 | mjc | wb ck. |
| 07:49.29 | mjc | how goes math |
| 07:50.07 | Elkano | hmmm... one of the two 2001 WoW trailers isn't working anymore :/ it's tracker seems to be gone :( |
| 07:50.38 | axxo | highest priority bug for bliizzard i'm sure of it |
| 07:51.21 | Elkano | (I'm putting together an enGB dvd for myself and had some space left so I planned to put the trailers on it) |
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| 07:51.30 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:51.41 | Elkano | morning ammo :) |
| 07:52.18 | Cartas | You're such a meanie, Axxo! |
| 07:52.21 | Elkano | ammo, wrt pinpoint: ever thought of making the 'show icon on (mini)map' stuff a lib? |
| 07:52.46 | [Ammo] | Elkano: yes, and the empty module is already there |
| 07:52.58 | Elkano | :) |
| 07:53.28 | Elkano | another thing to remove from my 'things to do when I have too much time' list ^^ |
| 07:54.29 | BoltR | My current comment on PinPoint: It's too accurate, you can start to mine one node; stop and move over 5 feet. Start mining it again, and it adds the node to memory for both locations |
| 07:54.39 | Laricwork | Elkano is ebb2 feature complete yet? :) |
| 07:55.01 | [Ammo] | Elkano: feel free to start on it though, I just haven't had the time |
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| 07:57.48 | Elkano | ebb2 is far from being complete |
| 07:57.57 | Elkano | I simply didn't have time lately |
| 07:58.18 | Cartas | It's a tough life being an Ace programmer, eh? |
| 07:58.58 | Elkano | well, studies, money, ... and from time to time a bit playing... ;) |
| 07:59.06 | Cartas | Playing FTW! |
| 08:02.02 | Bigdumbcow | erm, are all (most) of the addons links to the svn just out of date? |
| 08:02.21 | Bigdumbcow | such as |
| 08:02.22 | Bigdumbcow | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/XRS/ |
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| 08:03.31 | Srosh | yes, they are |
| 08:03.36 | Bigdumbcow | ok |
| 08:03.48 | Bigdumbcow | so, how does a complete noob like me go about getting them ;p |
| 08:04.04 | Bigdumbcow | i don't even know what parts of ace2 to download either =/ |
| 08:04.09 | Srosh | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2419.0 |
| 08:05.10 | Slayman | is it just me or can't u check out your addons either? |
| 08:05.52 | Bigdumbcow | thanks srosh =] |
| 08:07.00 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13593 10oRA2/Leader/MainTank.lua: oRA2: do not uppercase/lowercase mt names for koKR and zhCN |
| 08:08.30 | BoltR | Yeah, CIA links are broken for some reason |
| 08:08.30 | Bigdumbcow | well it didn't work...i am re-dl'ing .net2 though, hopefully that will fix it =] |
| 08:08.32 | BoltR | Well, out of date I guess |
| 08:08.47 | BoltR | Bigdumbcow, you can just use www.wowace.com/files/ |
| 08:09.29 | Bigdumbcow | ahh even better =] |
| 08:09.53 | [Ammo] | or point your svn client to : http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/<addon>/ |
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| 08:13.29 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13594 10ParserLib/ (ParserLib-1.1/optimizer-koKR.lua ParserLib.toc): ParserLib : Added optimizer for localization koKR |
| 08:14.41 | BoltR | I still wish someone would update the CIA path |
| 08:15.23 | BoltR | It burned when Redirection was commited with the note of "read the .toc to see what it does" |
| 08:15.27 | BoltR | And i couldn't just click the link ;p |
| 08:20.46 | evl | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3166 |
| 08:20.48 | evl | That's so fuckin cool |
| 08:21.40 | oxman | indeed |
| 08:21.41 | oxman | :) |
| 08:22.08 | mjc | what the |
| 08:22.12 | oxman | ask it to be ace2 :p |
| 08:22.31 | oxman | this is nice symbole show when you aura fade off |
| 08:22.33 | BoltR | Ok, i'm pretty sure I need that |
| 08:22.43 | BoltR | Simply because it looks cool |
| 08:22.51 | BoltR | I haven't read the description yet |
| 08:22.57 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13595 10oRA2/Optional/ (CoolDown.lua MainTank.lua): |
| 08:22.57 | CIA-17 | oRA2: |
| 08:22.57 | CIA-17 | * Optional Cooldown module now has texture changing abilities (drycoded beware, servers down :)) |
| 08:23.07 | oxman | I'll try it when the servers come back :) |
| 08:23.50 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13596 10oRA2/Leader/MainTank.lua: oRA2 : Apply localization to find text |
| 08:24.22 | mjc | he's quick |
| 08:24.41 | Bigdumbcow | eh? |
| 08:24.58 | oxman | ah ah |
| 08:25.01 | oxman | it already use ace2 |
| 08:25.02 | oxman | :D |
| 08:25.05 | oxman | very nice so |
| 08:25.05 | oxman | :p |
| 08:25.13 | Elkano | hmmm... have a look at thisone: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/wp-content/ep057.jpg |
| 08:25.23 | oxman | in fact no |
| 08:25.23 | oxman | :D |
| 08:25.33 | Elkano | and when finished, read thatone: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/10/11/0142216.shtml |
| 08:26.39 | BoltR | Trying it now |
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| 08:27.22 | oxman | I look the .tga file |
| 08:27.23 | oxman | :) |
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| 08:32.01 | BoltR | it's pretty cool |
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| 08:36.41 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13597 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: |
| 08:36.41 | CIA-17 | oRA2: |
| 08:36.41 | CIA-17 | * Added drycoded 'reverse' option, this will change the order from MT|MTT|MTTT to MTTT|MTT|MT |
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| 08:40.20 | Snago | if (somefunciton() or anotherfunction()) then -- Will anotherfunciton() run even if somefunction() returns true? |
| 08:40.35 | Snago | can't test myself, servers down :( |
| 08:41.04 | [Ammo] | probably not snago |
| 08:41.12 | [Ammo] | but you can test in the commandline lua :) |
| 08:41.15 | [Ammo] | get it from lua.org |
| 08:42.38 | Snago | or i just wait 20 minutes and hope they get the servers back up in time for once :P |
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| 08:45.07 | BoltR | lol, look at waht you are saying |
| 08:45.26 | ckknight | Snago, no, it won't |
| 08:45.39 | mjc | ckknight: I was just going to ask why you're up at this hour |
| 08:45.47 | ckknight | because it's 10:45 PM |
| 08:45.51 | mjc | ah |
| 08:46.07 | mjc | didn't realize you're a euro :P |
| 08:46.29 | mjc | or I'm just dumb :) |
| 08:46.49 | ckknight | I'm in Hawaii. |
| 08:46.55 | ckknight | that's the opposite of Europe |
| 08:47.21 | ckknight | so I'm going to go with your latter statement. |
| 08:47.44 | Health | mjc, did you do her yet!? |
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| 08:49.08 | mjc | ckknight: so I'm dumb :) |
| 08:49.16 | mjc | Health: I'm in FL, she's in CA. gotta wait for her to fly here. |
| 08:49.24 | mjc | we talked on the phone for 2hrs |
| 08:49.30 | Health | hot |
| 08:49.37 | Health | was she juggling while you talked? |
| 08:49.48 | mjc | heh, actually yes |
| 08:49.53 | Health | Haha |
| 08:50.19 | [Ammo] | hrmf can't update addons on curse |
| 08:50.24 | Health | Sucks to only get to talk every few moments as the phone gets juggled! |
| 08:50.25 | [Ammo] | Unknown Error |
| 08:50.54 | Health | Not that I know about US states.. but I guessed FL and CA are states :p |
| 08:51.11 | mjc | yeah |
| 08:51.20 | mjc | CA is on the west coast, FL is on the east |
| 08:51.39 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13598 10oRA2/TODO.txt: oRA2: small todo update |
| 08:52.30 | Health | The juggler at work knew who they were at least |
| 08:54.25 | mjc | hehe |
| 08:56.09 | Kalamadi | mjc: Where in Florida? |
| 08:56.14 | mjc | fort lauderdale |
| 08:57.38 | phyber | I was in Florida recently. How do you deal with those fucking love bugs? :| |
| 08:58.23 | CIA-17 | 03roartindon * r13599 10oRA2/Optional/ (CoolDown.lua MainTank.lua): oRA2: Fixed various syntax errors in drycoded modules so that it works. |
| 09:00.16 | oxman | servers up |
| 09:01.11 | Snago | thanks oxman :D |
| 09:01.22 | oxman | I can try powerauras ;p |
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| 09:09.05 | mjc | phyber: keep lights off :) |
| 09:11.17 | phyber | that's kind of hard when you're outside and you can't turn off the daystar though ;) |
| 09:11.25 | Health | darkness! |
| 09:11.50 | mjc | ah. |
| 09:11.54 | mjc | yeah, I don't go outside much |
| 09:12.31 | phyber | everything is so nice and air conditioned there. :D |
| 09:14.27 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13600 10Prat/modules/TellTarget.lua: Prat : Fiexed locals koKR (TellTarget) |
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| 09:16.21 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13601 10oRA2/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 09:16.22 | CIA-17 | oRA2: |
| 09:16.22 | CIA-17 | * moved texture changing to the core. |
| 09:16.22 | CIA-17 | * Charcoal -> charcoal to make it inline with the rest |
| 09:16.22 | CIA-17 | * all modules updated to reflect this. |
| 09:17.06 | mjc | ckknight: you must get up mighty early to chat with me then :p |
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| 09:18.17 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13602 10oRA2/Core.lua: |
| 09:18.17 | CIA-17 | oRA2: |
| 09:18.17 | CIA-17 | * Default texture set |
| 09:19.34 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13603 10oRA2/ (Core.lua TODO.txt): |
| 09:19.34 | CIA-17 | oRA2: |
| 09:19.35 | CIA-17 | * typo fixes and todo update |
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| 09:30.54 | mjc | hey keb |
| 09:31.03 | Kebinusan | hello |
| 09:31.24 | Kebinusan | http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4097/acpatchwerkxp5.jpg |
| 09:31.44 | mjc | neat |
| 09:32.06 | Kebinusan | yeah its pretty spiffy |
| 09:32.39 | mjc | hows that calcd |
| 09:33.46 | Kebinusan | Using non variable damage attacks like hamstring |
| 09:34.33 | mjc | cute |
| 09:34.36 | mjc | rupture too, eh |
| 09:34.54 | Kebinusan | I dont think rupture damage is mitigated by AC |
| 09:34.58 | Kebinusan | I havent tested it though |
| 09:35.16 | Kebinusan | it works with hamstring, pummel, kick, gouge, and bloodthirst |
| 09:35.31 | Kebinusan | though the bloodthirst math is off somewhere I need to get a warrior to help me find the stupid bug |
| 09:36.15 | Kebinusan | Its not my mod, its something someone else wrote Ive just fixed a couple of little bugs and am using it to help the warlocks in our raid see the value of curse of recklessness |
| 09:36.44 | mjc | Kebinusan: http://solfyre.blogspot.com/2006/07/serrated-blades-and-deadliness.html |
| 09:39.38 | Kebinusan | yeah thats basically what this does: return ( level * ( 85 * level + 400 ) ) / ( 1 - mitigation ); |
| 09:40.03 | mjc | yep |
| 09:42.19 | Health | That's an ugly design for a rogue blog |
| 09:42.26 | mjc | yep |
| 09:42.37 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13604 10oRA2/ (Core.lua Optional/CoolDown.lua Optional/MainTank.lua): |
| 09:42.37 | CIA-17 | oRA2: |
| 09:42.37 | CIA-17 | * Texture changing works |
| 09:42.37 | CIA-17 | * Maintanknumbers when reversed are now on the right side. |
| 09:42.41 | Health | more blood and darkness! |
| 09:43.24 | Kebinusan | Yeah, Ive thought a few times that it would be useful to re-write this mod somewhat and make it available more widely, the author never got around to putting it up on a mod site |
| 09:43.29 | mjc | http://www.pvp.net.tf/ |
| 09:43.44 | Health | A good raid total dps meter? |
| 09:43.59 | mjc | dm? |
| 09:44.26 | Health | coolers |
| 09:44.47 | Health | I should maybe do a fubar plugin to show it all the time! |
| 09:44.53 | Health | to know when to sceam on my raid to upper the dps |
| 09:45.38 | Kebinusan | You should set DBZ power levels for every 100dps you achieve |
| 09:45.40 | mjc | I'll up you in the face |
| 09:46.45 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 09:47.23 | Kebinusan | Health, yeah that'd be cool |
| 09:48.08 | Kebinusan | http://www.simplicity-guild.com/Updates/ArmorMeter.zip |
| 09:48.19 | Health | But that would need dm as a dep... maybe easier to solve it fully |
| 09:48.22 | Health | in a fubar plugin |
| 09:55.06 | Snago | is there any easy way to turn a table with r,g,b values to a hex color string? |
| 09:56.21 | Kebinusan | google rgb to hex |
| 09:56.34 | Kebinusan | or just convert the numbers to hex |
| 09:56.47 | Kebinusan | the decimal rgb values that is |
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| 09:58.38 | Snago | ok, so theres no library that has a function like that? |
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| 10:02.09 | Kebinusan | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PaintChips-2.0 maybe? |
| 10:03.49 | Snago | thx, i'll try that |
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| 10:06.46 | [Ammo] | paintchips is sweet :) |
| 10:10.07 | DarkImakuni | fish'n'chips is sweeter :P |
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| 10:11.19 | Lunina | hey guys is there an ace2 version of mybags aviable ? |
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| 10:13.57 | Kebinusan | Lunina, try Onebag |
| 10:14.13 | CIA-17 | 03thisterhall * r13605 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: PeriodicTable - added Major Rejuvenation Potion: 18253:1600 to potionrejuv |
| 10:14.47 | Lunina | does onebag has an option to see the bank and inventory of my other chars ? |
| 10:15.46 | Kebinusan | If you download Oneview it does |
| 10:15.53 | hugo | hmm one dump question, if i want to try some UIpackage, and backup all my addons/setings, i need to backup interface and WDB directory right ? |
| 10:15.55 | Lunina | cool thx |
| 10:16.01 | Kebinusan | basically get OneBag/Bank/View |
| 10:16.04 | hugo | er i mean WTF directory |
| 10:16.30 | Kebinusan | hugo, yeah you should be safe backing up your interface and wtf directories |
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| 10:17.03 | hugo | ok lets give it a try ;] |
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| 10:18.38 | CIA-17 | 03thisterhall * r13606 10XAD/Plugins/HealthPotions.lua: XAD - Added Whipper Root Tuber which will show in order behind healthstone and before normal health potions. |
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| 10:19.00 | hugo | by the way, bartender2 miss out of range colorchange |
| 10:19.22 | Kebinusan | I think there is a real simple mod called redrange to provide that feature |
| 10:19.56 | hugo | ahh i see, but prolly not ace2 |
| 10:20.31 | hugo | RangeRecolor |
| 10:20.36 | hugo | found it thanks :) |
| 10:22.16 | hugo | Mikma are you here ? |
| 10:26.36 | Kalamadi | Question |
| 10:27.03 | Kalamadi | Can one dynamically change a targetting assignment of an addon outside of combat? |
| 10:28.09 | Kalamadi | That is to say that, if you were to have five targetting buttons - four for your party and one for a tank outside that party - would you be able to change the targetting tank dynamically? |
| 10:30.11 | Kalamadi | =( |
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| 10:44.40 | Halid | anybod know if there is a teast version of grid out yet? |
| 10:45.28 | Srosh | Kalamadi, only out of combat afa I understand |
| 10:46.44 | Kalamadi | Srosh: Thankee |
| 10:47.08 | Srosh | Halid, there isn't |
| 10:47.31 | Kalamadi | There IS a test version |
| 10:47.35 | Kalamadi | It's just NOT out yet |
| 10:48.32 | Kalamadi | I don't like the whole "box" concept, however; I like being able to change the unitborder to a prioritized status |
| 10:48.50 | Kalamadi | I.e. if I'm a main healer, aggro will be displayed at a higher priority than a debuff |
| 10:49.52 | Kalamadi | Halid! Speak! I'm lonely =( |
| 10:50.02 | Wobin | yay |
| 10:50.08 | Wobin | Quiraji sacrifical dagger |
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| 10:51.24 | Kalamadi | ~seen maia |
| 10:51.43 | purl | maia <n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 1m 37s ago, saying: 'mjc: well, I'm not only a developer but also user of my own addons ;)'. |
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| 10:59.36 | Kalamadi | 'morning Josh |
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| 11:01.18 | Funkeh` | hey :) |
| 11:02.04 | JoshBorke | Kalamadi: morning :) |
| 11:03.12 | Kaelten | http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=wowace&btnG=Search+Code |
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| 11:10.00 | DarkImakuni | Nice Kaelten :) |
| 11:10.05 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 11:10.09 | Kaelten | not sure what to think of it |
| 11:10.41 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: shouldn't you be working on Combine ;-) :-P |
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| 11:10.52 | DarkImakuni | It's... alright I suppose... I prefer Google Groups tho :) |
| 11:11.00 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: morning |
| 11:11.26 | Kaelten | Josh_Borke: lol, I'd love to, but I got contracted to develop a profiler for a website. So until thats done, I'm not working on any of my personal projects |
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| 11:11.49 | JoshBorke | :-( ok ok... |
| 11:12.02 | Kaelten | DarkImakuni: ? |
| 11:12.32 | DarkImakuni | I wanna do something like that too, but I'm stuck in an office making coffee all day :P |
| 11:12.40 | Kaelten | lol |
| 11:13.02 | Kaelten | I go work my retail job for 8-12 hours a day, then come home and do this, between managing all my other crap and spending time with my fiance and kid :p |
| 11:13.10 | Kaelten | sleep is alien to me :) |
| 11:13.26 | DarkImakuni | lol same here :) |
| 11:13.38 | DarkImakuni | minus the fiance tho... :( |
| 11:14.06 | Kaelten | their great, if you can find a good model. I'd highly recommend picking up a one some time. |
| 11:14.45 | DarkImakuni | hehe :P no-one seems to love a techno-geek these days to :( |
| 11:14.49 | Kaelten | they're * |
| 11:14.57 | Kaelten | hehe, I found a hot gamer girl |
| 11:14.59 | DarkImakuni | s/to/tho/ |
| 11:15.02 | Kaelten | I swear they do exist |
| 11:15.12 | DarkImakuni | They are as rare as hen's teeth |
| 11:15.22 | Kaelten | lol |
| 11:16.14 | DarkImakuni | the only gamer girls I know are Cairenn, Thiana, my mom and my sister |
| 11:16.45 | Kaelten | well 2 of those are definately ruled out |
| 11:16.51 | DarkImakuni | sadly, only Cairenn is "hot" but she lives miles away |
| 11:17.02 | Kaelten | and she's married |
| 11:17.06 | DarkImakuni | dam |
| 11:17.18 | DarkImakuni | thats 3 ruled out then :P |
| 11:17.21 | Kaelten | yep |
| 11:17.28 | Kaelten | so send Thiana flowers some time |
| 11:17.30 | Kaelten | lol |
| 11:17.34 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 11:17.34 | Health | heh |
| 11:17.54 | DarkImakuni | I don't know where she lives tho... probably nowhere near me ;) |
| 11:18.05 | Laricwork | I found a gamer girl.. she is now my wife :P |
| 11:18.40 | Laricwork | she plays more than I do... |
| 11:18.52 | Laricwork | she is totally gameaholic |
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| 11:20.50 | DarkImakuni | brb need to relog... my computer mouse has died :( |
| 11:20.53 | Laricwork | lol dont be DarkImakuni.. you get to make dinner and cleanup yourself.. she is busy levelling toon 8 to 60 |
| 11:21.10 | DarkImakuni | hehe |
| 11:21.13 | DarkImakuni | brb |
| 11:22.40 | Kalamadi | Lain! Haha, oh the reference |
| 11:28.44 | Halid | back |
| 11:28.54 | Halid | so no grid to test myself yet? |
| 11:29.12 | JoshBorke | nope |
| 11:29.54 | Kalamadi | Does anyone know which manner of BG will be introduced in Azshara? |
| 11:31.15 | [Ammo] | wasn't that the 5v5 last man standing? |
| 11:31.25 | Kalamadi | Perhaps. |
| 11:31.37 | Kalamadi | But that's a staple of expansion PVP |
| 11:31.50 | Kalamadi | 3vs3 4vs4 5vs5 ladders, right? |
| 11:32.16 | [Ammo] | something like that yeah |
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| 11:33.15 | Kalamadi | On the map, there's apparently a path to the top of that region |
| 11:33.21 | Kalamadi | But none in reality |
| 11:35.24 | [Ammo] | there is a path |
| 11:35.32 | [Ammo] | you can get to the bowl there |
| 11:35.39 | [Ammo] | at least to the alliance and to the horde entrance of that bowl |
| 11:35.45 | [Ammo] | but there is no instance entrance yet |
| 11:35.48 | Kalamadi | Right, those exist |
| 11:35.59 | Kalamadi | But on the map there looks like there's a "path" on the NE side |
| 11:39.32 | Angeris | anyone using nanostats and help me a bit? |
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| 11:41.42 | DarkImakuni | That's better :) |
| 11:42.51 | snurre- | [SERVER] Shutdown in 15:00 |
| 11:42.54 | snurre- | [SERVER] Shutdown in 00:15 |
| 11:42.57 | snurre- | *poof* |
| 11:42.59 | snurre- | in 2secs :p |
| 11:43.36 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 11:43.46 | DarkImakuni | O.o |
| 11:44.08 | snurre- | wts my guild's emo rogues |
| 11:44.11 | snurre- | "All other classes are getting buffed in various ways and their playstyles expanded and broadened, this is not the case for Rogues." |
| 11:44.24 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 11:44.43 | snurre- | annoys me that they keep whining about it without even having access to TBC to test |
| 11:44.54 | JoshBorke | tell them to re-roll whack-a-moles |
| 11:45.31 | [Ammo] | well rogues were _always_ the most boring class ever |
| 11:45.38 | [Ammo] | so they should grow up and roll a real class :p |
| 11:45.57 | snurre- | not gonna reroll, gonna keep with my gimp warr |
| 11:46.05 | [Ammo] | I'm sticking with my gnome lock |
| 11:46.15 | snurre- | can't really reroll after 177 days played :( |
| 11:46.33 | DarkImakuni | <-- 56 days played :P |
| 11:46.45 | DarkImakuni | 156* |
| 11:47.48 | [Ammo] | no idea, but I think way less :) |
| 11:47.55 | [Ammo] | I spend too much time coding, not enough playing :) |
| 11:48.03 | snurre- | the sad part is that i have 7d played on one of my gbank chars :p |
| 11:48.13 | snurre- | lvl1 |
| 11:48.42 | [Ammo] | we used to have a level 40 guildbank :) |
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| 11:50.25 | sbu | HA! |
| 11:50.52 | sbu | finally - imperial qiraji regalia |
| 11:50.53 | sbu | :) |
| 11:51.26 | [Ammo] | sbu: healer or dpscaster? |
| 11:52.07 | sbu | [Ammo]: priest |
| 11:52.10 | [Ammo] | ah k |
| 11:52.20 | [Ammo] | nice weapon regardless :) |
| 11:52.22 | sbu | yah |
| 11:52.25 | [Ammo] | I still want to get my regalia |
| 11:52.28 | [Ammo] | for my lcok |
| 11:52.55 | sbu | well, we started raiding aq40 2 weeks ago ;p |
| 11:53.04 | [Ammo] | sweet |
| 11:53.09 | [Ammo] | we've had quite a few regalia |
| 11:53.16 | [Ammo] | I just always lack a few dkp :) |
| 11:53.20 | [Ammo] | similar for tier3 |
| 11:53.32 | [Ammo] | I have 0 tier3 I constantly get either enormously outbid or just outbid :) |
| 11:53.38 | sbu | the sad part is that i cant raid aq40 with my guild this week ;p |
| 11:53.54 | sbu | because i need id from another guild (twins down) :/ |
| 11:53.57 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 11:54.11 | [Ammo] | not only twins down, trash to c'thun cleared as well |
| 11:54.15 | [Ammo] | 'rash |
| 11:54.18 | [Ammo] | 'trash' |
| 11:54.47 | sbu | yah... i just have to wait until the kill cthun (guess friday/saturday) and then i can go there ;p |
| 11:54.56 | [Ammo] | cool |
| 11:55.12 | sbu | (i hope that npc doesnt despawn if you kill cthun?) |
| 11:55.13 | [Ammo] | I think I can get a tier 3 belt this week if it drops |
| 11:55.17 | [Ammo] | all others with more dkp than me have it |
| 11:55.22 | [Ammo] | no doesn' |
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| 11:55.58 | sbu | havent started naxx yet... i guess another 2 weeks and them - bam ;p |
| 11:55.59 | sbu | t3 ;) |
| 11:56.25 | Pucmel | dont bother with t3 if you didnt start yet |
| 11:56.28 | Pucmel | wait for TBC |
| 11:56.31 | Pucmel | and get lvl 61 greens |
| 11:56.52 | cncfanatics | Hi all, is there an ETA on the TBC release of ACE ? |
| 11:56.55 | Laricwork | pucmel 61 greens will be nowhere near t0 even |
| 11:57.07 | Laricwork | :) |
| 11:57.10 | Pucmel | yes |
| 11:57.13 | Pucmel | they will be far better |
| 11:57.27 | cncfanatics | ye right |
| 11:57.29 | axxo | no they won't |
| 11:57.31 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: you fortunately have no idea what you'e talking about |
| 11:57.36 | cncfanatics | thats like lvl 51 greens being better then lvl 50 epix right ? |
| 11:57.42 | sbu | ;o |
| 11:57.45 | Pucmel | ehm you have no clue |
| 11:57.49 | Laricwork | t3 will be for a 70 what t1 is for a 60 today or so I |
| 11:57.50 | Pucmel | ask somebody who is in alpha |
| 11:57.50 | Laricwork | ve heard |
| 11:57.53 | Pucmel | check some screenshots |
| 11:57.58 | Pucmel | and than return pls |
| 11:58.12 | Pucmel | Laricwork: wrong |
| 11:58.21 | krka | this is the best internet argument ever! |
| 11:58.21 | Pucmel | lvl 65 blues are far better than kt loot |
| 11:58.30 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 11:58.35 | Laricwork | k |
| 11:58.46 | Pucmel | there is a new stamina formula too |
| 11:58.53 | Pucmel | which means shitload of stamina on all new gear |
| 11:59.08 | Laricwork | isnt that going to be changed backwards aswell? |
| 11:59.11 | Pucmel | no |
| 11:59.13 | [Ammo] | Pucmel: maybe t2-t3 will get reviewd too |
| 11:59.15 | Pucmel | nope |
| 11:59.28 | [Ammo] | pucmel: never announced they would or wouldn't do that, so I owuldn' count on it |
| 11:59.29 | Pucmel | they dont want you to get new stats on old loot |
| 11:59.30 | Laricwork | pucmel you in the alpha? |
| 11:59.31 | Pucmel | they want to sell tbc |
| 11:59.37 | Pucmel | Laricwork: yes |
| 12:00.17 | Laricwork | how polished is the new parts? so one could guess how far off production they are? |
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| 12:00.50 | Pucmel | ehm blizzard rly dont care about beeing polished :) |
| 12:00.53 | Pucmel | they have deadline |
| 12:00.58 | Pucmel | and it will be out before the deadline |
| 12:01.02 | Pucmel | just like all patches etc |
| 12:01.08 | Pucmel | and the deadline == christmas |
| 12:01.19 | Laricwork | well it just seems that blizz is dead slow in development htough |
| 12:01.29 | Pucmel | yes, but rly fast in marketing :) |
| 12:01.33 | Laricwork | isnt deadline before dec 1? |
| 12:01.36 | Pucmel | and sales too :) |
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| 12:01.50 | cncfanatics | they're poor at coding sometimes too tbh :/ |
| 12:01.52 | Laricwork | to make the holiday gift season they must be released by dec 1 |
| 12:02.04 | Pucmel | well you are probably right |
| 12:02.06 | Pucmel | before christmas |
| 12:02.49 | Laricwork | I am just hoping they open up a ptr with the new codebase soon |
| 12:03.06 | [Ammo] | yeah me too |
| 12:03.06 | Laricwork | as they are changing very major parts of the lua 'interface' |
| 12:03.20 | [Ammo] | although BigWigs will work as is most likely |
| 12:03.23 | Laricwork | I couldnt care less about the tbc stuff right now.. I want the codebase |
| 12:03.26 | [Ammo] | but oRA2 will need changes |
| 12:03.50 | cncfanatics | heh, same, need the codebase so I can code decently on fb2 |
| 12:03.57 | Laricwork | [Ammo] I suspect more addons will need changing than not |
| 12:04.11 | cncfanatics | but, I heard ace2 library gives errors when run on the tbc alpha, is that true ? |
| 12:06.34 | [Ammo] | no clue, because I don't have TBC access :) |
| 12:06.54 | cncfanatics | nor do I, its irritating, have to relly on other people |
| 12:06.58 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 12:07.04 | [Ammo] | patience is a virtue :) |
| 12:07.14 | Laricwork | well I aint virtous |
| 12:07.14 | cncfanatics | Which I don't have at all |
| 12:07.20 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 12:07.36 | [Ammo] | it'll all prbably be sorted within a week of TBC ptr or release |
| 12:07.53 | [Ammo] | as it is always has been sorted out very very fast |
| 12:08.05 | cncfanatics | well, I kinda can't code decent TBC code without ace2 working :) |
| 12:08.10 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 12:08.13 | cncfanatics | hello |
| 12:08.18 | Pucmel | i need to find some DAB replacement before tbc :( |
| 12:08.51 | Laricwork | pucmel is ace2 working in the alpha? |
| 12:09.04 | Pucmel | more ore less |
| 12:09.07 | Pucmel | with some errors :) |
| 12:09.13 | Pucmel | but almost all addons are pwned |
| 12:09.44 | cncfanatics | heh, nearly all probably |
| 12:09.50 | Pucmel | they are changing the interface with every alpha release |
| 12:10.04 | Pucmel | so i dont think you can debug it before beta |
| 12:10.04 | sbu | mhh - why dab? |
| 12:10.06 | cncfanatics | with interface u mean lua env or the actual blizz framexml ? |
| 12:10.11 | Kala|Cookie | Hence why Grid is given such attention |
| 12:10.12 | Pucmel | or some early release stages |
| 12:10.18 | sbu | what DAB features do you need> |
| 12:10.19 | sbu | ? |
| 12:10.28 | [Ammo] | Grid will be the new emergency monitor :) |
| 12:10.28 | DarkImakuni | the new Hunter talents suck :( |
| 12:10.29 | Pucmel | floaters .. with conditions :( |
| 12:10.33 | Pucmel | in combat floaters etc |
| 12:10.35 | cncfanatics | FlexBar pucmel :) |
| 12:10.39 | sbu | wont be possible in TBC |
| 12:10.40 | cncfanatics | Currently coding on FlexBar2 huh |
| 12:10.42 | Kala|Cookie | DarkImakuni: Stop complaining. They aren't that bad. |
| 12:10.53 | Pucmel | cncfanatics: lua env |
| 12:11.03 | [Ammo] | flexbar is a memory hog, why would anyone use that? same with DAB |
| 12:11.04 | sbu | Pucmel: "* Action buttons and targeting frames are "protected", and may not be programmatically moved, shown or hidden, or have their action changed while in combat. " |
| 12:11.11 | Pucmel | yeah i know |
| 12:11.21 | cncfanatics | [Ammo] I'm coding on FlexBar2 at this very moment, and it won't be a mem hog :) |
| 12:11.22 | Pucmel | and i hate it :( |
| 12:11.29 | Pucmel | means more unused buttons for me :( |
| 12:11.32 | [Ammo] | I'll stick with Bartender :) |
| 12:11.40 | Pucmel | i only want to see some spells / buttons in combat |
| 12:11.41 | [Ammo] | I don' need fancy in combat swapping or difficult stuffs |
| 12:11.41 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: what about cpu usage? |
| 12:11.53 | Kala|Cookie | cncfanatics: What's your estimated time to completion? |
| 12:12.05 | cncfanatics | hopefully it'll be released the day TBC releases |
| 12:12.10 | Laricwork | any nice actionbar will be kinda fucked in tbc if i read the posts from slouken right.. |
| 12:12.17 | cncfanatics | just more limited |
| 12:12.20 | Laricwork | no logic whatsoever |
| 12:12.20 | cncfanatics | not fucked up |
| 12:12.33 | Kalamadi | We can't change buttons on-the-fly, though |
| 12:12.49 | [Ammo] | you can swap pages though |
| 12:12.53 | Laricwork | and you cant make floaters like dab uses for instance |
| 12:12.57 | Kalamadi | Given 25 people, I could map 5 buttons to select groups and change those same 5 buttons to select members on the fly |
| 12:13.07 | Josh_Borke | Laricwork: why couldn't you make floaters? |
| 12:13.19 | tigg | floaters were the only reason to use DAB for me |
| 12:13.21 | Laricwork | since you cant make a button unclickable |
| 12:13.21 | cncfanatics | probably just api changes not included in dab |
| 12:13.21 | Kalamadi | [Ammo]: I've never used pages. I had an addon for my actionbar before I finished installing my game |
| 12:13.30 | Laricwork | and you cannot hide a frame in combat.. |
| 12:13.38 | cncfanatics | that u can get around |
| 12:13.42 | Laricwork | you can alpha fade it but the region is still blickable |
| 12:13.48 | cncfanatics | if you can change their size u just size em till u can't see em anymore |
| 12:13.57 | cncfanatics | will act as if they're hidden |
| 12:14.00 | Josh_Borke | You can make a button un-clickable by putting a transparent frame that has the mouse disabled over it |
| 12:14.00 | Laricwork | you cant change size or position |
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| 12:14.20 | Laricwork | Josh_Borke that isnt possible wither |
| 12:14.21 | [Ammo] | why wuold you want to make a button unclickable? |
| 12:14.32 | Kalamadi | So you can't misclick. |
| 12:14.33 | Kalamadi | Anyway. |
| 12:14.39 | Laricwork | floaters in mid screen for execute for instance ammo |
| 12:14.44 | cncfanatics | u can just make a button unclickable by unregisterring its events -.- much simpeler |
| 12:14.50 | Kalamadi | Can an unintelligent macro swap action buttons on hotbars? |
| 12:14.53 | cncfanatics | no need to put frames on it |
| 12:14.58 | cncfanatics | they can out of combat |
| 12:15.05 | Kalamadi | Only out of combat. Damnit. |
| 12:15.18 | Laricwork | everything is more or less ooc only |
| 12:15.23 | Josh_Borke | well, we'll know more once they release more information |
| 12:15.25 | Kalamadi | That totally defeats the purpose of trying to make a keyboard driven raid targeting system |
| 12:15.33 | cncfanatics | depends kala |
| 12:15.34 | Josh_Borke | i dare say we don't know enough to make concrete judgements |
| 12:15.48 | cncfanatics | yea, a lot is still changing |
| 12:15.55 | Laricwork | as I said if i read sloukens posts correctly :P |
| 12:15.58 | Kalamadi | Do you want me to explain what I'm looking for in more detail? |
| 12:16.19 | sbu | mhh - but static frames with changing healthbars will still work? (something like perfectraid) |
| 12:16.19 | cncfanatics | I'm pretty sure I understand |
| 12:16.26 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 12:16.35 | cncfanatics | u'll even be able to click em to select the target |
| 12:16.46 | sbu | hmm - then it should be also possible to draw another frame layer with arrows? ;) |
| 12:16.50 | Kalamadi | I just abhor using the mouse; it takes too long to go between targets |
| 12:16.55 | Laricwork | sbu: yes.. as long as it isnt changing order or is moving then it witll work |
| 12:17.07 | sbu | mhhh, right |
| 12:17.12 | sbu | so useless :o |
| 12:17.14 | [Ammo] | I just hope I can still make frames on the fly in combat |
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| 12:17.19 | [Ammo] | otherwise candybar is fuxored |
| 12:17.25 | sbu | uh... |
| 12:17.34 | Kalamadi | [Ammo]: You can probably make uninteractive frames in combat |
| 12:17.56 | Pucmel | yes |
| 12:17.56 | Pucmel | you can |
| 12:17.56 | [Ammo] | that's good enough |
| 12:17.56 | Pucmel | not clickable etc |
| 12:17.56 | Pucmel | you cant interact with the frames you create in combat |
| 12:17.57 | Pucmel | but you can create them |
| 12:18.00 | Kalamadi | What about buff mods, like EBB? |
| 12:18.01 | Josh_Borke | Laricwork: where do you read that we can't create an overlay frame in combat? |
| 12:18.14 | Kalamadi | Would you lose the capability to right-click away a buff? |
| 12:18.21 | sbu | mhhm |
| 12:18.41 | cncfanatics | you can't do a lot with frames in combat |
| 12:18.44 | [Ammo] | Kalamadi: probably unless they remove the protection from that specific frame |
| 12:18.50 | add\\Leialyn | who updated BabbleZone and wrote all the true stuff to the translations? |
| 12:18.54 | Laricwork | you can make any kind of frame that is unclickable :P |
| 12:18.59 | Josh_Borke | from what i've read, the only thing that is protected are buttons that have unit/pet/actionbutton or whatever |
| 12:19.15 | cncfanatics | well, blizz can't find out if the button u made is ment as an actionbutton or not |
| 12:19.23 | cncfanatics | so they have to limit more then that |
| 12:20.13 | [Ammo] | add\\Leialyn: hmm? I think I saw rabbit update that, is there a problem? |
| 12:20.38 | Kalamadi | Well, back to a healer issue |
| 12:21.10 | add\\Leialyn | yes [Ammo] |
| 12:21.13 | Kalamadi | Since click-casting is not the fastest reactive way of healing, it can be expected for healers to micromanage a small number of units rather than raidheal, correct? |
| 12:21.30 | Kalamadi | Rather, click-casting across raid frames |
| 12:21.44 | [Ammo] | what problem? |
| 12:21.47 | add\\Leialyn | [Ammo] can only accept true as a value on the base locale :p |
| 12:22.06 | Laricwork | Kalamadi hit the mole :P in grid |
| 12:22.06 | [Ammo] | well only the base locale was changed afaik? |
| 12:22.31 | add\\Leialyn | have a look on it, at deDE and frFR localizations there are lots of true entries |
| 12:22.34 | Kalamadi | Laricwork: Uninterested, really. No reason to focus on 25 or 40 when I could focus on 5 or 6 |
| 12:22.43 | [Ammo] | that's bad |
| 12:22.56 | Kalamadi | Imagine this: You have your party frames and a sixth frame dedicated to a certain MT as determined before combat |
| 12:23.21 | Laricwork | Kalamadi as our raidgroup does it now.. we assing healers to groups... and they help when someone goes below 40%.. |
| 12:23.52 | Kalamadi | Laricwork: I'm saying raid healing is dead on behalf of those who previously raid healed :P |
| 12:24.12 | sbu | mhh, i dumped squshiy/emergency monitor 2 days ago and now healing w/ full sRaidFrames group display - and i like it, its just more fun :p |
| 12:24.34 | Laricwork | sbu until your arm gets worn out :P |
| 12:24.37 | Kalamadi | What does sRF look like? |
| 12:24.44 | Laricwork | like ctra |
| 12:24.49 | Kalamadi | Ick. |
| 12:25.01 | sbu | wait... *searching screenshot) |
| 12:25.17 | [Ammo] | add\\leialyn: guess that needs fixing |
| 12:25.25 | Laricwork | I want perfectraid + mana/energy/rage bars |
| 12:25.42 | Kalamadi | sbu: I know what CTRA looks like, agUF has a setting for that |
| 12:26.26 | Kalamadi | Hrm. If the MT list was static in combat, could you still potentially click on it to target the MT? |
| 12:26.40 | add\\Leialyn | can you do it [Ammo] ? |
| 12:27.00 | Laricwork | http://random-guild.com/sraidframes/sraidframes.pic1.jpg |
| 12:27.12 | sbu | http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot101006215152bi6.jpg |
| 12:27.14 | sbu | :) |
| 12:27.19 | Laricwork | Kalamadi yes it will work perfectly |
| 12:27.36 | Laricwork | you can have any unit you want in any frame you want.. you just cant change unit |
| 12:27.48 | Kalamadi | Hmm. I'm getting an idea. |
| 12:27.52 | Gamefaq | Ammo: i currently redo all changes from rabbit on babble lib |
| 12:28.13 | Gamefaq | he broke all addons that use babble lib |
| 12:28.16 | Laricwork | raid23target as unit will work perfectly aswell.. and change as he changes target but you cannot in combat change it to raid7target |
| 12:28.54 | Kalamadi | A customizable "unit watch" frame which allows you to select either targets of type and/or specific units |
| 12:29.16 | Kalamadi | Like some manner of interface with tabs for selecting whether or not to watch a certain class, your party, or specific MTs |
| 12:29.28 | Laricwork | like player targets in ctra.. it will work nicely.. just locked to those units when combat flag comes |
| 12:29.29 | cladhaire | Laricwork: perfectraid has mana energy rage bars |
| 12:29.49 | Kalamadi | However, building an interface like that is far beyond my capacity |
| 12:29.49 | Laricwork | cladhaire huh? I never found em :P |
| 12:30.32 | [Ammo] | laricwork: turn em on |
| 12:30.36 | Wobin | cmmm |
| 12:30.38 | Laricwork | cladhaire should I use the branch or the trunk version.. ? |
| 12:30.44 | cladhaire | download from wowi |
| 12:30.44 | [Ammo] | trunk |
| 12:30.45 | Wobin | made out like a bandit in AQ20 =P |
| 12:30.48 | [Ammo] | or download from wowi :p |
| 12:30.59 | Kalamadi | Wobin: I won seven epics in one MC pug :P |
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| 12:31.09 | Wobin | Quiraji Dagger, Martial Drape and Feint 5 =) |
| 12:31.29 | [Ammo] | add\\Leialyn: committing a quickfix for BabbleZone now please test |
| 12:31.35 | DarkImakuni | zomg gief epix |
| 12:31.55 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13607 10BabbleLib/Babble-Zone-2.0/Babble-Zone-2.0.lua: |
| 12:31.55 | CIA-17 | Babble-Zone-2.0: |
| 12:31.55 | CIA-17 | * ["somestring"] = true is only allowed for enUS, commented them out as a quickfix |
| 12:32.35 | [Ammo] | damn forgot AQ40.. committing again, but it' a bit slow |
| 12:32.51 | Kalamadi | So, let me make sure I understand this completely before I attempt to pitch a new idea |
| 12:32.55 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13608 10BabbleLib/Babble-Zone-2.0/Babble-Zone-2.0.lua: |
| 12:32.55 | CIA-17 | Babble-Zone-2.0: |
| 12:32.55 | CIA-17 | * forgot AQ40 |
| 12:33.23 | Laricwork | chat is the command to get praid to show manabars? cant find it in the website :P |
| 12:33.38 | [Ammo] | laricwork: how about you type /praid |
| 12:33.39 | Kalamadi | If I were to - via some interface - choose to watch all MTs, thus creating a list of 3 warriors, would I be able to specify a keybinding to select those warriors to use in combat? |
| 12:33.42 | [Ammo] | and take a look |
| 12:33.54 | Laricwork | :) |
| 12:33.57 | Kalamadi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.13 | [Ammo] | you spoil him kalamadi |
| 12:34.16 | Industrial | muhaha I infected some students at school |
| 12:34.24 | add\\Leialyn | nope [Ammo] ^^ |
| 12:34.24 | Industrial | with LUA |
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| 12:34.32 | CIA-17 | 03cladhaire * r13609 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.toc: PerfectRaid: Added DewDrop to the .toc |
| 12:34.32 | [Ammo] | add\\leialyn, what errors? |
| 12:34.34 | Industrial | and slapped them with the wowwiki wow API |
| 12:34.39 | Kalamadi | Industrial: You had my hopes up for a second there |
| 12:34.41 | Industrial | and wowace.com |
| 12:34.48 | Industrial | Kalamadi: lol |
| 12:34.50 | add\\Leialyn | no clue why, but all Ace Addons say, Translation does not exist |
| 12:34.51 | cncfanatics | Kalamadi: not sure, blizz hasnt been clear on targetting functions yet |
| 12:34.59 | add\\Leialyn | for Ironforge, Zul Gurub etc |
| 12:35.04 | Industrial | oh oh oh Lain time! |
| 12:35.11 | Industrial | I was watching lain last night until ep 8 |
| 12:35.13 | add\\Leialyn | so guess just copy and paste the names ^^ |
| 12:35.19 | Industrial | man that shit is >_o its brilliant :D |
| 12:35.21 | [Ammo] | add\\leialyn: hrmf, guess have to copy paste them all sigh |
| 12:35.21 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: Dynamicly changing according to variables set OOC, but static in combat. I see. |
| 12:35.24 | add\\Leialyn | ^^ |
| 12:35.31 | Kalamadi | Industrial: <3 SEL |
| 12:35.38 | [Ammo] | vhaarr will have to answer for this! |
| 12:35.38 | Industrial | SEL? |
| 12:35.45 | add\\Leialyn | but why doesn't it use the enUS translation if no local is found? |
| 12:35.46 | Kalamadi | Serial Experiments Lain |
| 12:35.50 | Industrial | yesh |
| 12:35.51 | [Ammo] | it should |
| 12:35.57 | add\\Leialyn | weird |
| 12:35.58 | [Ammo] | did you update all your things? |
| 12:36.00 | Kalamadi | My desktop computer's name is Lain |
| 12:36.03 | Industrial | bbl |
| 12:36.03 | add\\Leialyn | ya with svn |
| 12:36.11 | [Ammo] | all addons that use Babble-Zone? |
| 12:36.18 | Kalamadi | Industrial: Tell me when you get back |
| 12:36.19 | add\\Leialyn | hmmm ... 1 sec |
| 12:36.37 | Kalamadi | Industrial: I have another series made by the same person (Yoshitoshi Abe) that you might like |
| 12:37.01 | CIA-17 | 03cladhaire * r13610 10PerfectRaid/Localization.enUS.lua: Clique: Changed the markers for buffs again, back to short ones |
| 12:37.13 | Kalamadi | I thought he was taking a nap? |
| 12:37.33 | Gamefaq | ammo: rabbit has removed the base local enUS translation all is now "xxxx" = true |
| 12:37.52 | [Ammo] | gamefaq: no he did not |
| 12:38.10 | [Ammo] | he changed the base local enUS to "xxxx" = true, |
| 12:38.19 | [Ammo] | but he also did that for other locales |
| 12:38.21 | [Ammo] | which is not allowed |
| 12:38.24 | Gamefaq | and to this he hase changes deDE and frFR locals too |
| 12:38.40 | Gamefaq | many translation have now "xxx" = true |
| 12:38.45 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: Well, since I'm apparently not as adept at LUA as you, feel free to clue me in when the CMs reveal just how the targetting functions may work |
| 12:38.48 | Gamefaq | thats why the errors |
| 12:39.00 | add\\Leialyn | so is the error in the lib or in the addons ? |
| 12:39.22 | Gamefaq | on my german version ALL addon that use babble lib are broken |
| 12:39.32 | cncfanatics | Kalamadi: Currently they said that targetting will be totaly disabled for addons |
| 12:39.33 | add\\Leialyn | yep |
| 12:39.39 | Gamefaq | since this change |
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| 12:39.52 | [Ammo] | Gamefaq: well I can't help further, I have work to do, someone else fix it and slap vhaarr |
| 12:39.57 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: That makes me very sad :< |
| 12:40.22 | cncfanatics | Kalamadi: Its possible they limit it the same way as spells later on |
| 12:40.26 | add\\Leialyn | but how? Allow "xxx" = true on other locals or just change it to "xxx" = "xxx" ? |
| 12:41.13 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: Well, in essence, they crushed simple raid-healing. Without the capacity to dynamically change keybindings out of combat, you're stuck party-healing, too |
| 12:41.53 | sbu | well, but its no problem to watch 25 unit-heathbars |
| 12:41.59 | Gamefaq | your local translation CANT have something with xxxx = true because the REAL true language is enUS not your local thats why you the errors |
| 12:42.15 | Kalamadi | sbu: Maybe for you. |
| 12:42.23 | [Ammo] | Gamefaq: I just commented all that sutff out for Babble-Zone |
| 12:42.24 | Kalamadi | sbu: But the 40-mans aren't suddenly going away |
| 12:42.32 | [Ammo] | all the "xxxx" = true, |
| 12:42.34 | add\\Leialyn | its just set to be not allowed, you could set it to be allowed |
| 12:42.39 | [Ammo] | I commented out in frFR, and deDE |
| 12:42.57 | add\\Leialyn | but why are there still errors ... strage |
| 12:42.59 | add\\Leialyn | strange* |
| 12:43.44 | [Ammo] | because you might be using another addon with a wrong lib? |
| 12:43.57 | add\\Leialyn | no, updated every addon using it |
| 12:44.13 | add\\Leialyn | and why is the version not changed? :o So only the newest version is used |
| 12:44.27 | sbu | ahh btw |
| 12:44.42 | sbu | any1 has experience w/ nightfall in raids? (bwl+) |
| 12:44.46 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 12:44.52 | cncfanatics | my guild has 2 in raids |
| 12:45.11 | sbu | working fine or crap? :p |
| 12:45.15 | cncfanatics | very fine :) |
| 12:45.19 | add\\Leialyn | depends :> |
| 12:45.27 | cncfanatics | depends what boss idd |
| 12:45.37 | cncfanatics | its crap on aggrosensitive fights in bwl, but they rock in aq |
| 12:45.41 | cncfanatics | and nef |
| 12:45.45 | add\\Leialyn | and Loa :D |
| 12:46.15 | add\\Leialyn | when starting ignite, nightfall rocks |
| 12:46.52 | cncfanatics | true |
| 12:46.57 | cncfanatics | too bad our crap priests hate firemages |
| 12:47.01 | cncfanatics | we're 2 firemages only :( |
| 12:47.11 | cncfanatics | all rest frost cuz of whining priests that want easy healing |
| 12:48.21 | Mikma | mjc: yes? |
| 12:48.24 | Mikma | hugo: yes? |
| 12:48.45 | Kalamadi | Mikma: yes? |
| 12:49.01 | Mikma | Kalamadi: nothing to you. those 2 had missed me for some reason |
| 12:49.09 | add\\Leialyn | if you can easily kill Nef without frostmages, then there is no need for frost gimps :p |
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| 12:50.06 | cncfanatics | nef is on mindless farm :p |
| 12:50.08 | cncfanatics | just like the rest of bwl |
| 12:50.18 | add\\Leialyn | and in AQ there are not that much aggrosensitive fights |
| 12:50.40 | cncfanatics | I love sartura :p |
| 12:50.43 | add\\Leialyn | like Ouro/C'Thun, there you can just dps as much as you want |
| 12:50.43 | cncfanatics | nuke on :) |
| 12:50.53 | cncfanatics | fankriss only just died |
| 12:50.56 | cncfanatics | not there yet |
| 12:51.00 | add\\Leialyn | :> |
| 12:51.45 | add\\Leialyn | and on vulnerable mobs (written right?) ignite ownes everyone ^^ |
| 12:52.42 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 12:52.47 | cncfanatics | 20k ignite ticks ftw :p |
| 12:53.03 | cncfanatics | nightfall + coe + fire vuln + trinket + combustion : gasp : |
| 12:53.17 | Kalamadi | They need holy vulnerabilities |
| 12:53.22 | Kalamadi | At least, in the expansion |
| 12:53.25 | add\\Leialyn | ^^ |
| 12:53.26 | cncfanatics | holy has no resist, so why give it vuln ? |
| 12:53.34 | Kalamadi | Give priests and paladins some room to make the shamans and druids panic |
| 12:53.35 | cncfanatics | if they give vuln i want holy resist gear |
| 12:53.38 | add\\Leialyn | there will be holy resi in tbc |
| 12:53.43 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 12:53.54 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: What, you didn't see that coming? |
| 12:53.56 | add\\Leialyn | as far as I heard |
| 12:54.11 | Kalamadi | Of course they'd add resistance as soon as the horde got paladins |
| 12:54.21 | cncfanatics | I'm no priest, nor pvp'er :p |
| 12:54.24 | cncfanatics | i'm a coder & pve'er |
| 12:54.42 | Kalamadi | I'm a general nuisance; pleased to meet you. |
| 12:55.13 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 12:56.20 | DarkImakuni | I'm all three: a coder, a pve'er, and a general nuisance :) |
| 12:56.41 | cncfanatics | hmmm, i'm a general nuisance true tbh :) |
| 12:57.51 | cncfanatics | ffs, anyone uses Cream ? (ViM modification) |
| 12:57.57 | cncfanatics | its buggy atm and anoying the crap out of me |
| 12:58.11 | Kalamadi | I use cream...with my waffles. |
| 12:58.18 | DarkImakuni | well, if you read 'coder' as 'destroyer of all'... out of all my commits only two of my commits have worked |
| 12:59.20 | cncfanatics | I would use notepad++ but i ain't got no windows : |
| 13:01.18 | Wobin | I hate cream |
| 13:01.27 | cncfanatics | the program or the food ? :p |
| 13:01.38 | Wobin | program |
| 13:01.39 | Wobin | useless |
| 13:01.54 | cncfanatics | it has all features of Vim in a nice interface, pretty nice |
| 13:02.18 | Kalamadi | Going to emerge cream now |
| 13:02.22 | Kalamadi | See what happens :O |
| 13:02.31 | DarkImakuni | cookies and cream :9 |
| 13:02.48 | Kalamadi | Holy crap! Cream is actually a package :o |
| 13:03.04 | phyber | cncfanatics: gvim is a nice interface :p |
| 13:03.34 | cncfanatics | gvim's interface sucks |
| 13:03.39 | Josh_Borke | :-( |
| 13:04.09 | phyber | you wound me, sir. |
| 13:04.40 | cncfanatics | cream depends on gvim, but still ; |
| 13:04.51 | Josh_Borke | it looks like gvim to me... |
| 13:05.16 | cncfanatics | it has much more options in the menu's |
| 13:05.29 | CIA-17 | 03cladhaire * r13611 10PerfectRaid/ (4 files): |
| 13:05.29 | CIA-17 | PerfectRaid: Added support for columns (thanks to Velyse of Malygos) |
| 13:05.29 | CIA-17 | * Added support for Reuvenation, and Regrowth (both purple R's) |
| 13:05.29 | CIA-17 | * Changed Renew to a buff toggle, so druids can watch it too |
| 13:05.37 | Josh_Borke | o.O |
| 13:06.34 | DarkImakuni | I wanna use CooldownCount so bad but it uses AceLocale 2.1... :( |
| 13:06.59 | cncfanatics | why ? |
| 13:07.29 | DarkImakuni | seems pointless to have two different versions of the same thing... |
| 13:07.31 | Kalamadi | cream looks just like scite |
| 13:08.05 | DarkImakuni | I mean, what are the differences between AL 2.0 and 2.1? |
| 13:08.06 | Kalamadi | Except I like scite more. |
| 13:08.07 | Josh_Borke | DarkImakuni: while it is, i highly doubt it's a reason to not use it at all |
| 13:08.49 | cncfanatics | AL 2.1 *was* way more performant then 2.0 |
| 13:08.59 | cncfanatics | but the performance changes in 2.1 got backported to 2.0 |
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| 13:09.10 | cncfanatics | so they're kinda exactly the same atm |
| 13:09.43 | DarkImakuni | also CooldownCount would be my only AL 2.1 mod |
| 13:09.49 | DarkImakuni | meh, I'm just picky :P |
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| 13:14.46 | Gamefaq | someone should do the same with frFR translation or many other addons will spam errors... |
| 13:19.36 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r13613 10CooldownCount/ (CooldownCount.lua CooldownCount.toc libs/): |
| 13:19.36 | CIA-17 | CooldownCount: |
| 13:19.36 | CIA-17 | - (hopefully) Upgraded from AceLocale 2.1 to AceLocale 2.0 |
| 13:19.53 | Kalamadi | "Upgraded" Lawl. |
| 13:19.59 | DarkImakuni | :P |
| 13:20.21 | Mikma | maia's Grid is looking cool |
| 13:20.44 | DarkImakuni | Let me know if I've killed it, as I just knocked that up during my lunch break (I'm at work atm) |
| 13:22.43 | Kalamadi | If Maia doesn't do it natively, I'm going to have to hack my own version whereas I can specify a priority for border color. |
| 13:24.48 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1837.msg51539#msg51539 :D |
| 13:26.25 | cncfanatics | bartender :o |
| 13:26.52 | Kalamadi | I.e. if I'm a dedicated cleanser, the cleanse border will be higher priority than aggro |
| 13:26.53 | Kalamadi | yacoob: Which ideA? |
| 13:26.53 | Kalamadi | -a |
| 13:28.09 | yacoob | Grid-like emergency monitor |
| 13:28.45 | Mikma | DarkImakuni: sleeping wagner? |
| 13:29.20 | DarkImakuni | didn't you have another one, after sleeping wagner? |
| 13:29.42 | Mikma | DarkImakuni: humm |
| 13:29.50 | DarkImakuni | I'm sure there was dancing wagner, sleeping wagner, and another one |
| 13:29.52 | Mikma | http://mikma.reaktio.net/guru.jpg |
| 13:30.21 | Mikma | this is the one i use now |
| 13:30.21 | DarkImakuni | thats the one |
| 13:30.57 | Mikma | wtf, i haven't changed the avatar |
| 13:31.29 | DarkImakuni | I'm sure it used to be Guru before |
| 13:31.56 | Mikma | it was |
| 13:32.01 | DarkImakuni | maybe the forums had a rollback? |
| 13:32.05 | Mikma | i haven't changed it to wagner |
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| 13:33.27 | Mikma | The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved. |
| 13:33.31 | Mikma | lol |
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| 13:34.01 | DarkImakuni | lol now it's a huge guru :P |
| 13:34.27 | Kebinusan | Mikma, yeah grid is looking kinda spiffy |
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| 13:36.03 | Mikma | DarkImakuni: yeah i noticed but can't do anything to change it :) it zooms up the picture for some reason |
| 13:36.13 | Mikma | even if it's sized as it is now |
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| 13:37.33 | Kalamadi | *sigh* You know, after you've gotten your interface customized around your playing devices, it's really hard to go back to Blizzard's action page design |
| 13:37.57 | Kebinusan | I need to take another stab at switching from DAB to bartender or something |
| 13:38.20 | cncfanatics | DAB sucks tbh |
| 13:38.46 | Kalamadi | I have a Nostromo Speedpad n52 and a highly customized interface around the device's capacity |
| 13:38.47 | Kebinusan | DAB is pretty nice imo, its flexible, configurable, lots of options |
| 13:38.55 | axxo | any where i can show like a 4x4 grid with button that i can toggle with a bind & show on mouse over? |
| 13:39.01 | cncfanatics | FlexBar & DAB take aprox same memory, and fb has more options |
| 13:39.11 | cncfanatics | just not a nice config screen |
| 13:39.15 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: Agreed. I love Flexbar |
| 13:39.26 | Kebinusan | cncfanatics, which is LoD, so why use flexbar :-) |
| 13:39.27 | cncfanatics | Kalamadi: I'm one of the flexbar authors :) |
| 13:39.27 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: It's nice for the programmatically-minded |
| 13:39.57 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: The possibilities of actions of which I could preform range from the mundane to the lewd, mi'lord. |
| 13:40.00 | Kebinusan | Ive actually simplified my ui quite a bit since I started using sprocket so I could probably move away from DAB now |
| 13:41.04 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: However, the loss of button-switching via macros in combat seems like a great loss. Will Flexbar2 be lacking many features? |
| 13:41.21 | cncfanatics | i'm trying to get around most |
| 13:41.32 | cncfanatics | but it'll probably lack some of the features yes |
| 13:41.40 | cncfanatics | blame blizz :'( |
| 13:41.57 | Kalamadi | So button resizing on events, macros to change buttons, etc. will be lost |
| 13:42.05 | Kebinusan | To quote one of my guildmates, These changes have come 1 year 11 months and 13 major patches too late |
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| 13:42.16 | Kalamadi | Though I presume you're adding on-event transparency changes to make up for that? |
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| 13:42.29 | cncfanatics | flexbar2 is far from rdy yet |
| 13:42.32 | eternally777 | Anyone know what could be causing errors like this: http://ace.pastey.net/1478 |
| 13:42.40 | cncfanatics | i'll probably be addon all features requested after i'm done with the base |
| 13:42.50 | Kebinusan | Actually I understand the desire behind some of the changes, but I wish they had preserved targeting just not spell casting |
| 13:42.53 | cncfanatics | (120 dynamicly created buttons) |
| 13:43.02 | malreth | eternally777: probably caused by AceComm library being installed |
| 13:43.07 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: I.e. once it's working, you'll get features implemented |
| 13:43.07 | Wobin | eternally777:that's a bad acecomm |
| 13:43.11 | cncfanatics | ye |
| 13:43.12 | malreth | there's a known bug that causes that error in it |
| 13:43.22 | Wobin | it's been fixed I believe |
| 13:43.30 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: Are you fiddling with the idea of transparent button borders? |
| 13:43.39 | malreth | then it's probably an old installed copy of AceComm lib |
| 13:43.42 | malreth | :) |
| 13:43.45 | cncfanatics | not fiddling with anything atm tbh |
| 13:43.54 | Kalamadi | I see :x |
| 13:43.58 | cncfanatics | just fiddling with getting 120 working buttons without using any line of blizzard cod |
| 13:44.01 | cncfanatics | code* |
| 13:44.02 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r13614 10PerfectRaid/Localization.deDE.lua: PerfectRaid - Translated new Options to deDE |
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| 13:44.12 | Kalamadi | I wish I could help :/ |
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| 13:44.25 | Kalamadi | Are you converting to Ace2 at the same time, or? |
| 13:44.57 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 13:44.59 | cncfanatics | its ace2 based |
| 13:45.02 | Kalamadi | Neat. |
| 13:45.07 | Kalamadi | Now I really wish I could help. |
| 13:45.15 | cncfanatics | which is why i'm concerned about the bugs in ace2 with TBC :p |
| 13:45.49 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: Two questions: Am I asking too many questions, and which potential bugs are there? |
| 13:45.55 | cncfanatics | I have no idea |
| 13:46.01 | cncfanatics | I don't have access to tbc myself |
| 13:46.14 | cncfanatics | its dhaggar that told me that ace2 returned some errors when testing my code with TBC |
| 13:46.29 | Kebinusan | Ck fixed a few bugs with the alpha and the lua 5.1 stuff already, but I dont think he has an alpha account |
| 13:46.55 | Kalamadi | Yeah, the LUA 5.1 changes have been documented, I think |
| 13:47.01 | Kalamadi | But I don't think all the WoW 2.0.0 have been |
| 13:47.05 | cncfanatics | mainly tbl looping changes |
| 13:47.21 | Kalamadi | I see. |
| 13:47.45 | Kalamadi | I feel guilty, asking all these questions with nothing to return =( |
| 13:47.54 | Kebinusan | cncfanatics, If you harass Ck or some of the other developer tupes about any bugs you find Im sure they will get fixed quickly |
| 13:48.01 | cncfanatics | ok, good :) |
| 13:49.56 | Kalamadi | This is going to be so odd. I'm playing my friend's 2h fury warrior while he's in class (needs the AV rep) |
| 13:50.09 | Kalamadi | I play an explicitly +damage/healing holy paladin |
| 13:51.00 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r13615 10PerfectRaid/Localization.deDE.lua: Typo Fix |
| 13:54.59 | *** part/#wowace Silencer (n=Silencer@195.252.78.16) |
| 13:55.18 | cncfanatics | time to go, cya all |
| 13:55.21 | [FH]Birdemani | maia: quick question on grid. since it has 100% of the roster in the screen before/during combat, this will allow you to click on the box to target that player? |
| 13:55.33 | [Ammo] | Bird: yeah |
| 13:55.36 | Kalamadi | [FH]Birdemani: Yes |
| 13:55.50 | [FH]Birdemani | thanks |
| 13:56.03 | [FH]Birdemani | getting asked a few questions by panicing guildmates :p |
| 13:56.38 | Mikma | tell them to DYI |
| 13:56.49 | Mikma | DIY kek |
| 13:56.59 | Kalamadi | Since it's a static frame, units may be selected |
| 13:57.20 | Mikma | gief us alpha |
| 13:57.35 | Mikma | (version not color) |
| 13:57.38 | [FH]Birdemani | all i know is that grid is hawt and cant wait till try it out on my pally |
| 13:57.55 | Kalamadi | I'm still wondering about keybindings to custom-ordered frames |
| 13:58.13 | Wobin | hm |
| 13:58.16 | krka | grid? |
| 13:58.18 | krka | what's that? |
| 13:58.23 | Wobin | Where's the nearest poison dealer from Silithus? |
| 13:58.25 | Kalamadi | krka: Check the forums |
| 13:58.27 | Wobin | krka: Squishy replacement |
| 13:58.28 | [FH]Birdemani | well, by deault you would be able to keybind your party anyhow |
| 13:58.47 | Kalamadi | [FH]Birdemani: I don't mean /target Party1 and whatnot |
| 13:59.01 | Kalamadi | I mean targetting the first member in a custom display as set out of combat |
| 13:59.10 | krka | which forums? |
| 13:59.16 | Kalamadi | For instance, keybindings to target specific warriors as determined before combat |
| 13:59.18 | [FH]Birdemani | a priority replacement list via keybindings |
| 13:59.23 | Wobin | wowace |
| 13:59.44 | [Ammo] | you're all trying to overengineer stuff :) |
| 13:59.51 | Kalamadi | [Ammo]: Lies! |
| 13:59.52 | [Ammo] | I'll just wait for maia to release Grid |
| 14:00.00 | [Ammo] | and that will be enough, wack-a-rat for healers. |
| 14:00.01 | Kalamadi | I hate using the mouse :< |
| 14:00.15 | [Ammo] | then set keybindings for all of those 40 frames |
| 14:00.15 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 14:00.22 | [FH]Birdemani | heh, i want a module that adds wobins graphic suggestion :p |
| 14:00.24 | Kalamadi | I'll miss the days of raiding with one hand on my keyboard and the other beneath my chin |
| 14:01.07 | Mikma | you had to hold your chin up? |
| 14:01.11 | Mikma | head too heavy? :D |
| 14:01.18 | Kalamadi | Mikma: You know it. |
| 14:01.21 | [FH]Birdemani | kalamadi: isnt that a song? o |
| 14:01.33 | Kalamadi | [FH]Birdemani: Probably before my time |
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| 14:01.49 | Wobin | Is there a poison merchant in Feathermoon? |
| 14:02.02 | Kalamadi | You're asking a paladin, boyo. |
| 14:02.04 | Wobin | I hate trying to find them here |
| 14:02.36 | [FH]Birdemani | kalamadi: was making a vague alanis morissette reference (one hand in my pocket and the other giving the peace sign) |
| 14:02.40 | [FH]Birdemani | :p |
| 14:02.46 | Kalamadi | I.e. before my time |
| 14:02.57 | [FH]Birdemani | .... |
| 14:03.01 | Wobin | ... |
| 14:03.04 | Kalamadi | .. |
| 14:03.09 | [FH]Birdemani | same |
| 14:03.28 | Kalamadi | I just turned 18 a few months back and I feel old =( |
| 14:03.42 | [FH]Birdemani | 30 is gonna suck then lol |
| 14:03.51 | Wobin | It's all downhill from there! |
| 14:04.00 | Kalamadi | Oy, I know. |
| 14:04.04 | [Ammo] | haha teenager! |
| 14:04.15 | [Ammo] | feeling old.. tsss |
| 14:04.25 | DarkImakuni | I'm 20 in December :P |
| 14:04.25 | [FH]Birdemani | Ammo: Would it be considered a strat on the Grobbulus mod to have it countdown when it is going to drop the cloud on the tank? |
| 14:04.43 | [FH]Birdemani | heh, 33 here |
| 14:04.56 | Kalamadi | [Ammo]: When you've lived a life as bland as mine, it's easy to feel old :P |
| 14:04.56 | [Ammo] | 30 in 2 months here |
| 14:04.59 | Mikk | Kalamadi: You're never older than you make yourself feel, tbh. So stop thinking you're old =) |
| 14:05.01 | Mikk | <- 31 |
| 14:05.07 | [Ammo] | Birdemani: no it would not be strat |
| 14:05.07 | Mikk | <- feels 23 tops :-P |
| 14:05.12 | [Ammo] | Birdemani: I just don't have the timer for it :) |
| 14:05.18 | Mikma | old farts hahaha |
| 14:05.18 | [FH]Birdemani | ok |
| 14:05.30 | Mikma | i feel like 18 |
| 14:05.34 | DarkImakuni | Mikma: you'll be one one day :P |
| 14:05.37 | [Ammo] | I feel 18 too :) |
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| 14:05.51 | [FH]Birdemani | I had a few guildmates guess on vent how old I was, most thought 23 or so. Its all about how you live your life |
| 14:05.54 | Kalamadi | I feel like I should have little hellspawn running around and a 9-5 job |
| 14:06.12 | Mikk | Hahaha |
| 14:06.12 | Mikma | i am 26,73 .. :D yay |
| 14:06.13 | Mikk | hardly |
| 14:06.14 | [Ammo] | my first spawn should arrive just before I turn 30 :) |
| 14:06.21 | [FH]Birdemani | grats |
| 14:06.24 | Kalamadi | Though that'd be too much to ask; purpose is too important a drive |
| 14:06.38 | [Ammo] | birdemani: got the time between the clouds? (maybe a transcript?) |
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| 14:07.15 | Health | k |
| 14:07.22 | Kalamadi | Mikk, it was an exaggeration |
| 14:07.29 | Mikk | Orly? =) |
| 14:07.41 | Kalamadi | Yeah. |
| 14:07.46 | DarkImakuni | lol Mikk |
| 14:07.47 | Mikk | Read an article about it the other day. Average age is 30something in Sweden now. |
| 14:08.12 | Kalamadi | You say Sweden, I think Swedish fish. Now I'm hungry. |
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| 14:08.19 | [FH]Birdemani | Ammo: We did it last night, I will transcript it next week for you |
| 14:08.22 | phyber | Mikk: come to the UK. they are having kids at 13. morons. |
| 14:08.23 | [Ammo] | hehe ok |
| 14:08.32 | Mikk | Kalamadi: That's what you get for naming yourself after greek food :-P |
| 14:08.38 | Mikk | ... well, almost, anyway |
| 14:08.46 | Kalamadi | Kalamadi? |
| 14:08.49 | Mikk | Kalamari |
| 14:08.55 | Mikk | A k a squid |
| 14:09.02 | Kalamadi | That'd...be Japanese |
| 14:09.04 | [FH]Birdemani | Ammo: It's 15 seconds IIRC, not sure if thats right from the pull thou |
| 14:09.15 | Mikk | Kalamadi: no, greek. |
| 14:09.19 | Mikk | google it |
| 14:09.41 | Mikk | Fried squid to be precise |
| 14:09.53 | Kalamadi | Neat. |
| 14:10.04 | Kalamadi | Guess I have to have a talk with my Japanese teacher, then... |
| 14:10.05 | [FH]Birdemani | as far as kids/spawn, I have no want/need for them, My friends have them and being an Uncle is good enough for me. I enjoy my very selfish lifesytle of working/playing/skydiving |
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| 14:10.46 | Mikk | [FH]Birdemani: They're very good for getting dust out of corners tho |
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| 14:10.49 | Wobin | thus the bird in the name? =) |
| 14:10.51 | [FH]Birdemani | heh |
| 14:10.54 | [FH]Birdemani | yup |
| 14:11.16 | [FH]Birdemani | check out www.bird-man.com |
| 14:11.24 | [FH]Birdemani | thats my favorite aspect of the sport |
| 14:13.10 | Kalamadi | *sigh* See, here I am debating college interests (my previous plans were scrapped because of a sudden move) and I'm having to summon the resolve to brave the social environment. I feel old. |
| 14:13.33 | [FH]Birdemani | darkimakuni, so am i |
| 14:14.04 | [FH]Birdemani | man, make sure you socalize in college...thats the best part of it :p |
| 14:14.39 | Kalamadi | :O |
| 14:15.26 | Kalamadi | [FH]Birdemani: It's socializing that I dread, however. There's no upside about it in my mind |
| 14:15.35 | [FH]Birdemani | there is plenty |
| 14:16.38 | Kalamadi | Though I fear how you may respond, I still ask to understand cultural differences: Which upsides? |
| 14:17.55 | [FH]Birdemani | It opens doors for you on many levels. Study groups, professional networking for your future, new friends, new ideas, possible relationships, |
| 14:18.04 | [FH]Birdemani | it stimulates personal growth |
| 14:18.17 | Kalamadi | And here I was thinking you were going to say "sex." Huh. |
| 14:18.24 | [FH]Birdemani | that too |
| 14:18.28 | Kalamadi | XD |
| 14:19.18 | Kalamadi | Eh...one way or another, I have to experience it, so. I'll take your word for it. |
| 14:19.33 | Wobin | Whereabouts are you Kal? |
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| 14:19.51 | Kalamadi | U.S., Florida |
| 14:20.02 | Kalamadi | Originially from the stoic northeast |
| 14:20.15 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r13617 10BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0/Babble-Spell-2.0.lua: a damn typo... |
| 14:20.18 | *** join/#wowace Tazmanyak (n=chatzill@ken66-1-82-242-251-85.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 14:20.45 | Tazmanyak | Hello all ^^ |
| 14:21.01 | Kalamadi | 'morning. |
| 14:21.15 | [FH]Birdemani | I can only tell you this Kalamdi, you will look back it after college and regret you decision if you don't. |
| 14:21.44 | Kalamadi | [FH]Birdemani: Yeah, but. I look back at everything and regret it. |
| 14:22.03 | Wobin | Those were the young years |
| 14:22.03 | Wobin | Our wings were drying in the sun |
| 14:22.13 | Mikk | Or put another way, there's likely to be more people that aren't uber-social there. You don't need to hang with the extreme extroverts ya know :-P |
| 14:22.30 | Wobin | although it helps with the socialising |
| 14:22.32 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13618 10BabbleLib/ (6 files in 6 dirs): |
| 14:22.32 | CIA-17 | BabbleLib: |
| 14:22.32 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.32 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.32 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.33 | Kalamadi | Mikk: This is Florida. That's by and large the population. |
| 14:22.34 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.36 | Wobin | if you're a bit introverted |
| 14:22.47 | Mikk | Kalamadi: heh, doh |
| 14:23.02 | [FH]Birdemani | Kalamdi: I've spent too much time in Florida and thats a big exageration |
| 14:23.06 | Wobin | wow |
| 14:23.12 | Wobin | 5k latency |
| 14:23.13 | Tazmanyak | Grumph rabbit is breaking all the Babbleized addons ( |
| 14:23.21 | Wobin | ah |
| 14:23.22 | vhaarr | I just fixed them again. |
| 14:23.29 | Wobin | oh, filesharing, why do you grief my upstream so? |
| 14:23.34 | Kalamadi | I haven't met someone outside my immediate family here who I've been able to tolerate :/ |
| 14:23.40 | Tazmanyak | is there someone working on fr localization of babble please ? |
| 14:23.41 | vhaarr | Tazmanyak: Are you french? |
| 14:23.41 | Kalamadi | Wobin: Traffic shaping? |
| 14:23.46 | Tazmanyak | yes i am |
| 14:23.59 | Tazmanyak | and i am begining to patch babble |
| 14:24.07 | Wobin | Kalamadi: I could. but I couldn't be bothered =) |
| 14:24.11 | vhaarr | Tazmanyak: I just fixed it. |
| 14:24.15 | Xuerian | Kalamadi: Don't worry. There's always one person as crazy, annoying, messed up, and perverted as you are |
| 14:24.17 | Tazmanyak | vhaarr: ok |
| 14:24.21 | vhaarr | Tazmanyak: And please updated Babble-Spell, I added some spells. |
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| 14:24.26 | FtH|eagle | hi |
| 14:24.31 | Kalamadi | Xuerian: Why, thank you. |
| 14:24.32 | Tazmanyak | vhaarr: you are french too ? |
| 14:24.35 | vhaarr | Tazmanyak: No. |
| 14:24.40 | Xuerian | <3 |
| 14:24.43 | Tazmanyak | vhaarr: oki :p |
| 14:24.44 | vhaarr | Tazmanyak: I'm rabbit. |
| 14:24.52 | Tazmanyak | vhaarr: ooooooh |
| 14:25.02 | Mikk | you are? |
| 14:25.05 | Tazmanyak | i bow before you with reverence and humility |
| 14:25.08 | Xuerian | Be wery, wery quiet.... |
| 14:25.14 | Wobin | You need to change your nick vhaarr =) |
| 14:25.18 | vhaarr | :P |
| 14:25.19 | Mikk | yes |
| 14:25.42 | Mikk | didja get my TT-Fu icon? |
| 14:25.48 | vhaarr | hmm |
| 14:25.49 | *** join/#wowace Astronot (n=asdf@71-214-148-225.dlth.qwest.net) |
| 14:25.51 | vhaarr | Did you e-mail it? |
| 14:25.53 | Mikk | yes |
| 14:26.06 | Mikk | I was looking for "rabbit" in the channel but no luck :-P |
| 14:26.19 | vhaarr | To be honest I'm not sure the mail forwarding from that e-mail to my regular one is working. |
| 14:26.33 | vhaarr | Mikk: What did you write in the subject? |
| 14:26.33 | Mikk | just a sec then |
| 14:26.42 | Astronot | he's prolly busy thinking of more creative gnome jokes :D |
| 14:26.44 | Mikk | ehmmmm prolly had "tinytip" in it |
| 14:26.52 | vhaarr | okay, let me check |
| 14:26.59 | Mikk | just yesterday or so |
| 14:27.01 | vhaarr | ah |
| 14:27.30 | Royal | is there a way to change FuBar text horizontal justify? Since MiniClockFu for example keeps shifting a pixel depending on the time because the text is centered or right justified, need it left |
| 14:27.38 | vhaarr | Mikk: hrm, seems I didn't get it. |
| 14:27.42 | vhaarr | Let me log in to the account directly. |
| 14:28.17 | vhaarr | ah |
| 14:28.56 | Mikk | http://81.233.236.26/tticon.png |
| 14:29.08 | Mikk | and .tga and .blp |
| 14:29.21 | vhaarr | Mikk: The gimick about the current icon is that it's actually the Audi TT logo |
| 14:29.25 | Mikk | Oh |
| 14:29.27 | Royal | Guess theres no such option? :( |
| 14:29.36 | Mikk | Well, it's just a suggestion. Use or toss =) |
| 14:29.46 | vhaarr | Mikk: I don't really mind either way, feel free to replace it. |
| 14:29.58 | Mikk | I'll poke Thrae |
| 14:30.05 | vhaarr | Mikk: FuBar_TTFu was the first Ace2 lua I wrote, I did it as an exercise. |
| 14:30.08 | vhaarr | I don't even use it myself. |
| 14:30.22 | Mikma | Mikk: k, then i'll poke you. Poke. |
| 14:30.24 | Mikk | Thrae gets to call it imo =) |
| 14:30.28 | vhaarr | So feel free to replace it if your icon looks better. |
| 14:30.31 | vhaarr | Well it's my addon :) |
| 14:30.42 | Mikma | Mikk: the funny thing is we have a slangword "poke" for porn in finland :) |
| 14:30.49 | Mikma | so, i poke you |
| 14:30.52 | Mikma | lol lol lol |
| 14:30.56 | Mikk | Aye, but TT is his. I don't care enough about it myself, and neither do you, obviously, so ... Thrae it is =) |
| 14:31.05 | vhaarr | :D |
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| 14:31.33 | Mikk | Mikma: There's lots of pr0n here, hadn't you noticed? |
| 14:31.41 | Mikk | Speaking of pr0n... |
| 14:31.55 | Mikma | Mikk: noooooo, i'm still a virgin! |
| 14:31.56 | Kalamadi | Did someone say pr0n? |
| 14:32.02 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Flirt#Draenei_female |
| 14:32.07 | Mikk | Are those for real? =) |
| 14:32.21 | [FH]Birdemani | yes |
| 14:32.21 | [FH]Birdemani | apparently |
| 14:32.29 | Royal | vhaarr, has a look at that BW icon-stand-by-thingie that you noted? =) |
| 14:32.42 | vhaarr | Royal: ? |
| 14:33.00 | Royal | The icon changing when BigWigs is put on Standby |
| 14:33.01 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13619 10ParserLib/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:33.02 | CIA-17 | ParserLib : |
| 14:33.02 | CIA-17 | - Add a function to fix some global and problematic strings |
| 14:33.09 | Royal | You said you'd have a look at it ^^ |
| 14:33.15 | vhaarr | Icon changing? |
| 14:33.16 | Mikma | Royal: penis. |
| 14:33.32 | Royal | FuBar/Minimap icon, grey out or something, to indicate the addon is not enabled |
| 14:33.45 | Royal | Mikma! answer my previous question pls :P |
| 14:33.51 | Royal | About the Fubar text justify thingie |
| 14:33.51 | Mikma | Royal: pump |
| 14:33.55 | vhaarr | hm |
| 14:36.24 | vhaarr | Royal: When /bw standby is enabled, you want the icon to be grey? |
| 14:36.35 | Kalamadi | Haha, ouch |
| 14:36.43 | Kalamadi | I join AV on my friend's warrior |
| 14:36.52 | vhaarr | Royal: Or when no modules are enabled? |
| 14:36.55 | Kalamadi | And the BG leader says "okay, that's one tank" |
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| 14:37.33 | Royal | vhaarr, the actual addon itself, not the modules. So when the addon is on stand-by, when you uncheck 'Enabled' in the menu |
| 14:38.09 | vhaarr | Royal: Care to give me a greyed out icon then? |
| 14:38.11 | Royal | It says Stand-By in the title then, thought it would be nice to have icon show it as well, not that I need it badly or anything ;) |
| 14:38.26 | Royal | hmm, let me see |
| 14:38.36 | vhaarr | I can do it, but I'd need a greyed out version of the icon. |
| 14:39.54 | Royal | In what format, size? |
| 14:40.07 | vhaarr | Mikk would know, I don't. |
| 14:40.18 | vhaarr | TGA, I guess. |
| 14:40.38 | [FH]Birdemani | wow i love bulkmail, just sent my self 40 stacks of runecloth from my bank in about 5 seconds |
| 14:41.00 | [FH]Birdemani | just wish it could use acegui2 so i could dump ace1.3.1 |
| 14:41.16 | vhaarr | I don't think AceGUI2 is ready yet. |
| 14:41.29 | yacoob | "- How long does it last? - About five minutes - FIVE MINUTES? - That's enough to get the job done... for me anyway!" |
| 14:42.54 | [Ammo] | I need to get rid of KCI, but there is no replacement that adds vendor and auction values to tooltips |
| 14:42.55 | Kalamadi | I've learned how to play a warrior in record time |
| 14:43.05 | [Ammo] | and allows me to search through items |
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| 14:43.25 | [FH]Birdemani | colalight isnt good enough? |
| 14:44.49 | [Ammo] | dunno what it does? |
| 14:45.08 | Nightm | ItemSync works fine for me, might be too heavy on the prrformance though... |
| 14:45.27 | [Ammo] | I really like KCI |
| 14:45.35 | [Ammo] | but need to get rid of my last Ace thing |
| 14:45.48 | Mikk | Royal: .tga with transparency, sizes must be a power of 2 (e.g. 8x8, 16x16, 16x32, 32x16, 32x32, etc...) |
| 14:46.39 | [Ammo] | Birdemani: does it add auction values as well? |
| 14:46.42 | DarkImakuni | [Ammo]: same here, except with Visor/VisorGUI :) |
| 14:47.06 | [FH]Birdemani | Ammo: I think it is only vendo costs at the moment |
| 14:47.22 | [FH]Birdemani | damn, just realized I still have catalyst installed as well |
| 14:47.36 | Funkeh` | does perfectraid have a gui? |
| 14:48.29 | vhaarr | A option GUI, you mean? |
| 14:48.32 | Astronot | he's working on a gui |
| 14:48.40 | Royal | Thank you Mikk |
| 14:48.40 | Astronot | it's not done yet though, with dewdrop |
| 14:49.09 | Astronot | r12918 | cladhaire | 2006-10-04 03:07:53 -0400 (Wed, 04 Oct 2006) | 2 lines |
| 14:49.09 | Astronot | PerfectRaid: Added rudimentary support for Dewdrop. Just need to get the option text set and decide how users will open it. |
| 14:49.42 | [Ammo] | hrmf, ColaLight isn't good enough |
| 14:49.54 | Funkeh` | Oo |
| 14:50.55 | Funkeh` | anyone who uses aguf and PR(healer) could tell me which you prefer raid frame wise? |
| 14:51.13 | [Ammo] | PerfectRaid is superior |
| 14:51.16 | yacoob | Hey, Ace2 KCI is a must. |
| 14:51.17 | [Ammo] | shows the debuffs a lot better |
| 14:51.28 | [FH]Birdemani | I only tried agUF raidframes on my pally and went back to sraidframes |
| 14:51.34 | [FH]Birdemani | I havent tried PR |
| 14:51.43 | yacoob | it's not only vendor/ah values |
| 14:51.51 | yacoob | it's also *rumble* item links! |
| 14:52.06 | [Ammo] | but as a healer clicking the PR frames is a bit nasty because of their height |
| 14:52.27 | [Ammo] | but information wise they're >> aguf |
| 14:52.50 | [FH]Birdemani | for the moment, ag says in a few weeks he is revamping the aura system |
| 14:53.02 | [Ammo] | yeah ok |
| 14:53.08 | [Ammo] | but then Grid will be alpha version hopefully :) |
| 14:53.17 | [Ammo] | I'll use Grid alongside PerfectRaid |
| 14:53.33 | [Ammo] | just like I use Squishy alongside it |
| 14:53.42 | [FH]Birdemani | I like my layout right now, so I think I will stick with sraid for now |
| 14:53.47 | [FH]Birdemani | i may try PR eventually |
| 14:54.22 | [Ammo] | it's all a matter of preference |
| 14:54.26 | [FH]Birdemani | yea |
| 14:54.28 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13620 10SimpleCombatLog/SimpleCombatLog.toc: SimpleCombatLog : update toc as changed ParserLib |
| 14:55.35 | [Ammo] | btw did vhaarr's fixes work? |
| 14:55.38 | [Ammo] | for Babble-Zone |
| 14:55.49 | add\\Leialyn | yep |
| 14:55.49 | [Ammo] | because right now I don't dare release a new BigWigs without confirmation that it works :) |
| 14:55.50 | add\\Leialyn | he did copy paste ;> |
| 14:56.04 | add\\Leialyn | "xxx" = "xxx" ^^ |
| 14:56.24 | [Ammo] | aa |
| 14:56.25 | [Ammo] | aha |
| 14:56.29 | Funkeh` | i wonder if you can remove raid frames from aguf if you use PR to save a little memory? |
| 14:56.36 | vhaarr | err |
| 14:56.47 | vhaarr | Copy/paste and revert is the same thing in this case. |
| 14:57.11 | Elkano | the problem is most like that Babble doesn't fallback on english |
| 14:57.22 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 14:57.34 | Mikma | Funkeh`: if you don't use aguf's raidframes then it won't use memory |
| 14:58.42 | add\\Leialyn | yep Elkano, but why ^^ |
| 14:59.05 | vhaarr | Because it's strict. |
| 15:01.03 | Kalamadi | Bahahaha, first time playing a warrior and I tanked Drek'thar XP |
| 15:01.05 | Funkeh` | ok mikma |
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| 15:02.19 | Saroz | Is there any way to change the interval for ScheduleRepeatingEvent? |
| 15:02.47 | vhaarr | Re-schedule it? |
| 15:03.16 | Saroz | meeeh |
| 15:03.28 | giandude | anyone here who can help me with closetgnome? |
| 15:03.52 | vhaarr | I can. |
| 15:03.56 | Kalamadi | Wait |
| 15:04.12 | Kalamadi | ClosetGnome hasn't been officially released, and is thus unsupported, right? |
| 15:04.28 | vhaarr | That's correct. |
| 15:04.37 | vhaarr | I'll still answer you though, if you ask me here :) |
| 15:05.02 | vhaarr | If you ask on the forums, I'll request that the topic is deleted, however, since it exposes it too much. |
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| 15:05.30 | Kalamadi | Gnomes fear exposure. |
| 15:05.47 | vhaarr | Especially when they have the diseases that this one does. |
| 15:05.54 | Kalamadi | Ewww. |
| 15:05.55 | vhaarr | I'm going to cure it soon, though. |
| 15:06.03 | Kalamadi | Cleanse! Cleanse! Cleanse! |
| 15:06.04 | beerke | anyone can point me out to what is the common way to reset a boss module after a wipe in bigwigs |
| 15:06.13 | Kalamadi | Shift-click the icon |
| 15:06.19 | beerke | no no |
| 15:06.26 | giandude | anyways, what i cant figure out is how to use closetgnome gatherer. |
| 15:06.27 | Elkano | was it that bug that it drops your epix? ;) |
| 15:06.28 | beerke | automagically in the module i mean |
| 15:06.28 | Kalamadi | Yes, yes |
| 15:06.37 | vhaarr | beerke: Depends on the boss. |
| 15:06.43 | beerke | Loatheb in this case |
| 15:06.44 | giandude | i want to be able to put on my +skinning gear whenever i'm skinning |
| 15:06.54 | Kalamadi | I still prefer to do it manually |
| 15:07.04 | Kalamadi | Like on forced BWL resets, and Hakkar :P |
| 15:07.30 | vhaarr | beerke: Look at the loatheb code, then. |
| 15:07.55 | beerke | i tried, but i did not really understand what happened there :) |
| 15:08.21 | vhaarr | it's simple |
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| 15:08.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 15:08.52 | vhaarr | You just register PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED and/or PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED with CheckWipe and CheckForEngage |
| 15:08.59 | vhaarr | And then catch the self:BossEngageSync() sync in BigWigs_RecvSync |
| 15:09.51 | Nightm | I seriously need someone to update, kennel, mybindings and minimalist to ace2... |
| 15:10.04 | MoonWolf | nightm feel free. |
| 15:10.10 | Nightm | I'm not sure how :p |
| 15:10.20 | Kalamadi | MoonWolf just got here and is already handing out the burn! |
| 15:10.33 | MoonWolf | thats more industrials thing. |
| 15:10.37 | Nightm | let's just say I had trouble hooking an event earlier today... |
| 15:10.45 | Kalamadi | Nightm: Look at Ace2 addons. Learn. Reverse engineer. Adapt. |
| 15:10.53 | Nightm | argh, work... |
| 15:10.57 | DarkImakuni | Last time I welcomed MoonWolf he yelled at me :P |
| 15:11.03 | Nightm | I'll look at it tomorrow or something |
| 15:11.19 | Nightm | shit I need to leave for practice in 30 min and I havent' eaten yet.. |
| 15:11.30 | DarkImakuni | eat on the way :) |
| 15:11.38 | vhaarr | Royal: Should I expect an icon today? |
| 15:12.55 | Nightm | eating+driving=carcrash ime |
| 15:13.10 | Mikk | WTFzorz I can't find an icon in BW |
| 15:13.13 | Nightm | I almost fell of my bike cause I was talking on the cellphone... |
| 15:13.32 | Mikk | vhaarr: Actually, you can probably just do SetDesaturated on the texture |
| 15:13.34 | [Ammo] | Mikk: it uses an ingame texture |
| 15:13.50 | vhaarr | Mikk: No, I can't do that, because FuBarPlugin-2.0 controls it. |
| 15:13.57 | Mikk | Ah, teh bastidh |
| 15:14.15 | Mikk | I submit that FuBarPlugin needs a SetDesaturated method then =) |
| 15:14.22 | [Ammo] | BigWigsOptions.hasIcon = "Interface\\Icons\\INV_Misc_Orb_05" |
| 15:14.30 | Mikk | thanks ammo |
| 15:14.42 | vhaarr | Mikk: If you want to make a BigWigs icon, I've long advocated to ammo that we need one. |
| 15:14.57 | vhaarr | I don't think he agrees 100%, but is open to the idea if we get a decent proposal. |
| 15:15.15 | Mikk | I can certainly pixel something, but I'm totally blanking on ideas atm :-P |
| 15:15.20 | vhaarr | So am I :) |
| 15:15.36 | [Ammo] | maybe the current icon |
| 15:15.45 | [Ammo] | but with a british judge wig |
| 15:15.49 | [Ammo] | white rolls etc |
| 15:15.57 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r13621 10sRaidFrames/ (libs/ sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFrames.toc sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: Added range checking, disabled by default. |
| 15:16.09 | Saroz | \o/ |
| 15:16.14 | vhaarr | ProximityLib? |
| 15:16.16 | Saroz | ye |
| 15:16.21 | vhaarr | excellent |
| 15:17.21 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r13622 10BabbleLib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:17.21 | CIA-17 | Babble-Spell: Translated new Spells into deDE |
| 15:17.21 | CIA-17 | Babble-SpellTree: Enabled Frost Translation for deDE since it was correct translated |
| 15:26.28 | Mikk | http://81.233.236.26/bigwigs-icon.png http://81.233.236.26/bigwigs-icon-desaturated.png |
| 15:26.30 | Mikk | also .tga versions |
| 15:27.04 | DarkImakuni | <3 |
| 15:27.10 | andreasg | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/11/0142216&from=rss |
| 15:27.16 | Mikk | (just the old one, clipped away the border) |
| 15:27.17 | andreasg | oh man, this is fucked, really |
| 15:28.09 | vhaarr | Mikk: excellent, thanks |
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| 15:28.48 | vhaarr | Mikk: http://81.233.236.26/bigwigs-icon-desaturated.tga gives a 404 |
| 15:28.51 | Funkeh` | bleh, using PR makes starting usage go up by 1mb =/ |
| 15:29.13 | vhaarr | so does http://81.233.236.26/bigwigs-icon.tga |
| 15:29.27 | vhaarr | Mikk: are you norwegian? |
| 15:30.00 | Kalamadi | andreasg: Eh, I don't use Reiser anyway |
| 15:30.05 | Kalamadi | Ext for life! |
| 15:30.19 | andreasg | yeah, but it's still fucked |
| 15:30.35 | Kalamadi | What? That popular people can kill people? Yeah. |
| 15:30.50 | Kalamadi | Wait! |
| 15:30.53 | CIA-17 | 03darkimakuni * r13623 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: |
| 15:30.54 | CIA-17 | sRaidFrames: |
| 15:30.54 | CIA-17 | - Removed double BabbleSpell.lua reference |
| 15:30.54 | CIA-17 | - Added ProximityLib as an optional dependency |
| 15:30.54 | CIA-17 | - Some other stuff I can't remember :( |
| 15:30.56 | Kalamadi | It's a conspiracy! |
| 15:31.11 | Kalamadi | Microsoft is trying to eliminate competition with NTFS! |
| 15:31.16 | beerke | vhaarr, regeistering the PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED with checkforwipe is enough to just reset the module when a wipe occured right ? It will just call OnEnable and reset the module if i iunderstand it rigth |
| 15:31.21 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2578.new#new |
| 15:31.25 | Industrial | in your face, user |
| 15:31.33 | vhaarr | beerke: that will reset the module on a wipe, yes |
| 15:31.50 | vhaarr | beerke: it will call OnDisable and OnEnable |
| 15:32.07 | sbu | hmm - is it possible to attach sraidframe tooltip somewhere else but to the mousecursor? |
| 15:32.15 | Saroz | <3 |
| 15:32.24 | sbu | (bottomleft + offset ;p) |
| 15:32.30 | Kalamadi | Industrial: You are my hero |
| 15:33.10 | Industrial | Kalamadi: ^___^ |
| 15:33.29 | Royal | vhaarr: Sorry, was away for dinner. I started working on it, just made a greyscale, but Mikk's look way better :P |
| 15:33.41 | Tazmanyak | good night All ^^ |
| 15:33.46 | Kalamadi | Industrial: You will be the end of people who say "I'd like to see" and the start of those who say "I have." |
| 15:33.49 | vhaarr | Royal: okay, but I can't find the tga versions |
| 15:33.57 | Industrial | yah until someone tells me what im saying is not true and through discussion i agree i cant sotp tellin gpeople they have it wrong :P |
| 15:34.19 | Industrial | Kalamadi: wowace used to be like that |
| 15:34.27 | Industrial | with 10-20 ppl in it :o |
| 15:34.38 | Kalamadi | And now it's, what. 10x that? |
| 15:35.05 | Industrial | 100x that at least |
| 15:35.31 | Kalamadi | Aye. More contribution! Less lurking! |
| 15:35.38 | Kalamadi | Or. |
| 15:35.51 | Kalamadi | A thread meant to teach people how to convert addons to Ace2 |
| 15:35.55 | Industrial | more asking how instead of asking to |
| 15:36.01 | Kalamadi | YES. |
| 15:36.24 | Royal | vhaarr: http://members.home.nl/m.royal/bigwigs-icon-desaturated.tga < tga of Mikk's desaturated icon |
| 15:36.33 | Royal | see if thats any good |
| 15:36.42 | Industrial | new forum sig :p |
| 15:36.54 | Kalamadi | Industrial: Just to get a grasp, how complex is the process of converting an addon to Ace2? |
| 15:37.03 | vhaarr | Royal: could you do the enabled icon as well? |
| 15:37.19 | Funkeh` | indie: i think you jsut won @ life |
| 15:37.55 | Industrial | Kalamadi: only do it if the addon benefits from it functionally, not just to weed out the previous version |
| 15:38.23 | Kalamadi | Industrial: Well, I seek to understand the libraries to a significant extend to lend aid when the code change comes |
| 15:38.30 | Kalamadi | Extent, rather |
| 15:39.31 | Kalamadi | Converting an addon would likely be the easiest way to understand, since the general functionality and goal of the change are evident |
| 15:39.31 | Industrial | yep :) |
| 15:40.20 | Industrial | but i dont think its enough if you just use the new version while the user doesnt see change |
| 15:40.28 | Industrial | bake a new addon |
| 15:40.36 | Industrial | that does the same and MORE, and use the new version |
| 15:40.40 | Industrial | make, even |
| 15:40.40 | Kalamadi | Well, that's the second step. Learn from example. |
| 15:40.42 | Royal | vhaarr, I messed up transparancy on that icon. Use these instead: http://members.home.nl/m.royal/bw/ |
| 15:40.49 | Funkeh` | bake sounds better |
| 15:40.53 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:40.58 | Kalamadi | Yeah. Makes me think...of cookies. |
| 15:41.02 | Kalamadi | But I'm out of cookies =( |
| 15:41.13 | Industrial | with lots of colour sprinkes |
| 15:41.18 | Kalamadi | >_<; |
| 15:42.04 | vhaarr | Royal: thanks |
| 15:45.45 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13624 10BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0/Babble-Spell-2.0.lua: Babble-Spell-2.0 : update locals koKR |
| 15:46.07 | vhaarr | Royal: The transparency is wrong. |
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| 15:46.13 | vhaarr | Royal: I get white edges on the icon now. |
| 15:47.43 | Royal | hm |
| 15:47.55 | Royal | not a PS hero, should be transparant, sec |
| 15:49.42 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r13625 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Range distance less or equal |
| 15:52.14 | Royal | vhaarr, getting the white edges ingame? |
| 15:52.19 | vhaarr | yes |
| 15:52.20 | Royal | or when you view it with some program |
| 15:52.22 | Royal | hmk |
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| 15:52.25 | vhaarr | ingame only |
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| 15:52.58 | Royal | Dunno how to save it then, its transparant when I save it, cant check any options, but after saving its indeed white background. Anyone know how to save TGA transparant? |
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| 15:55.00 | Sairen | Royal: I use GIMP for that |
| 15:56.39 | Ghent | Royal, is this in photoshop? |
| 15:57.35 | Royal | yes |
| 15:57.51 | Royal | theres no alpha channal apprantly :P sec |
| 15:59.50 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13626 10!!!Libs/!!!Libs.toc: |
| 15:59.50 | CIA-17 | !!!Libs: |
| 15:59.50 | CIA-17 | - update toc as changed ParserLib |
| 16:01.10 | Ghent | Royal, yeah, according to a few sites I'm reading right now, Photoshop forces the alpha channel to be non-transparent |
| 16:01.16 | Ghent | but there seems to be ways around it |
| 16:01.23 | Ghent | would you like the links I'm looking at? |
| 16:01.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 16:02.20 | DarkImakuni | morning cladhaire :) |
| 16:02.40 | Royal | Ghent, yes please |
| 16:03.01 | Ghent | http://www.ypoart.com/tutorials/Alpha-about.htm http://www.flipcode.com/cgi-bin/fcarticles.cgi?show=64953 |
| 16:03.19 | Royal | vhaarr: I don't rly know how to save them then, ask Mikk =) (Looked at some other mods icon.tga, and they all have a black or white bg as well when opened in PS, but with an alpha channel, so transparant ingame) |
| 16:03.23 | Ghent | I dunno, sounds like it might be easier just to install gimp or paintshop and save them there |
| 16:03.33 | vhaarr | Royal: Use GIMP? ;) |
| 16:03.42 | Ghent | there's a gimp port for windows |
| 16:04.13 | Elkano | sure |
| 16:04.19 | haste | People say Paint .NEt is good for Windows |
| 16:06.58 | Tain | I have heard good things about Paint.NET also. But I have never used it. |
| 16:07.20 | Royal | Ghent, that link of yours also links to an Adobe plugin for tga files which fixes the alpha channel thingie. But the funny thing is, I'm alrdy using that plugin |
| 16:07.56 | DarkImakuni | Hi Tain :) |
| 16:08.27 | Tain | Someone has gone and infected me with some manner of vile space pox. |
| 16:09.32 | cladhaire | DarkImakuni: morning/afternoon/happy home sick from work |
| 16:09.52 | Josh_Borke | clad! |
| 16:10.13 | Ghent | like really sick? |
| 16:10.24 | Ghent | or *cough cough I can't work today boss* sick? |
| 16:10.37 | Tain | I had chicken noodle soup last night and it didn't work! I thought chicken noodle soup was supposed to fix everything. |
| 16:10.50 | Tain | It was even homemade. |
| 16:11.01 | Ghent | you doubt the soup? your lack of faith if your undoing :( |
| 16:11.07 | Ghent | s/if/is |
| 16:11.33 | Mikk | vhaarr: Gah, sorry. Forgot to fix file permissions. |
| 16:11.34 | eternally777 | s/if/is/ |
| 16:11.41 | Mikk | And no, I'm Swedish. |
| 16:11.49 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 16:12.02 | Mikk | (I use GIMP under windows btw. Works like a charm.) |
| 16:12.26 | Mikk | hmm so... wigs wigs wigs.... |
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| 16:12.53 | vhaarr | Mikk: Care to fix the permissions? |
| 16:12.58 | vhaarr | http://81.233.236.26/bigwigs-icon.tga not found |
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| 16:14.02 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13627 10BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0/Babble-Spell-2.0.lua: Babble-Spell-2.0 : update locals koKR |
| 16:15.08 | CIA-17 | 03andalia * r13628 10BattleChat_Buffs/BattleChat_Buffs.lua: |
| 16:15.08 | CIA-17 | BattleChat_Buffs: |
| 16:15.08 | CIA-17 | - Improved the pattern to shorten buff-names |
| 16:15.08 | CIA-17 | - Coloring changed a bit |
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| 16:16.44 | Mikk | oh, you still needed it. sec. |
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| 16:17.05 | Mikk | vhaarr: fixed |
| 16:17.24 | vhaarr | thanks |
| 16:17.26 | CIA-17 | 03fenlis * r13629 10PerfectRaid/Localization.koKR.lua: PerfectRaid : update locals koKR by gygabyte :) |
| 16:17.44 | haste | gygabyte? |
| 16:19.33 | maia | kylobite. |
| 16:19.41 | PC | gygabyte = some korean dude with a friend named ZeroCool? |
| 16:20.01 | haste | omg, hackers! |
| 16:21.07 | vhaarr | Mikk: Works like a charm, thanks alot. |
| 16:21.42 | Royal | Mikk, which program did you use to create the tga? :) |
| 16:22.27 | Mikk | Royal: GIMP |
| 16:22.32 | Royal | k |
| 16:22.38 | Mikk | (for windows) |
| 16:24.06 | CIA-17 | 03eternally777 * r13630 10BabbleLib/BabbleLib-2.1/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:24.06 | CIA-17 | BabbleLib-2.1: |
| 16:24.06 | CIA-17 | * Synchronizing translation updates performed on BabbleLib-2.0. |
| 16:24.25 | vhaarr | eternally777: Why? Does anyone use it? |
| 16:24.51 | eternally777 | vhaarr: Ouch? Of course people use it. |
| 16:25.00 | vhaarr | Who? |
| 16:25.12 | eternally777 | Me, for one. |
| 16:25.21 | vhaarr | I don't see the point. |
| 16:25.59 | Mikk | iiiiinteresting. I managed to drag my IRC window out of opera and onto the windows taskbar |
| 16:26.01 | Mikk | Cool feature |
| 16:26.08 | Mikk | Except now I don't know how to get it back inside opera o.O |
| 16:26.15 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:26.40 | Kalamadi | So I'm playing my friend's warrior in AV, right? Never played a warrior before. I keep ending up being the only warrior in the BG and tanking Drek'thar |
| 16:27.32 | nevcairiel | only warri in AV ? when does that happen? |
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| 16:27.39 | Kalamadi | Twice in a row, apparently. |
| 16:27.49 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 16:28.14 | Ghent | opera natively supports IRC? |
| 16:28.18 | Mikk | yes |
| 16:28.22 | Mikk | and torrent downloads |
| 16:28.23 | Plorkyeran | Mikk> Use the window sidebar |
| 16:28.27 | Ghent | I thought it was a web browser? :P |
| 16:28.27 | Kalamadi | My friend set everything up so nicely for me, too. He has full stacks of WSG and AB marks, so whenever I win AV for him, I can turn in Concerted Efforts =3 |
| 16:28.33 | Mikk | it is |
| 16:28.36 | Mikk | damn nice one too imo |
| 16:28.38 | Tain | Opera has an irc client packaged with it. |
| 16:28.44 | Ghent | tsk tsk |
| 16:28.58 | Mikk | It's pretty minimalistic but does everything you need for regular IRCing |
| 16:29.08 | Mikk | Even tracks nick changes in privmsg windows |
| 16:29.15 | Tain | I used Opera since v5, but switched to FireFox because of the extensions. |
| 16:29.23 | Mikk | Same |
| 16:29.29 | Mikk | I mostly just IRC in opera now =) |
| 16:29.37 | haste | sounds like: bloat |
| 16:29.37 | Ghent | I used opera a long time ago too, but switched to firefox when it was still known as phoenix! |
| 16:29.46 | Ghent | haste, agreed |
| 16:29.48 | haste | I also switched to Phoenix |
| 16:30.09 | Mikk | haste/Ghent: So why does FF use twice the RAM that Opera does? =) |
| 16:30.17 | Tain | I kept trying Phoenix/FF over the years, but it took until addins were sufficiently advanced to give me the things that Opera did out of the box. |
| 16:30.19 | haste | Mikk: 'cause I don't care |
| 16:30.24 | Tain | And then surpass it. |
| 16:30.34 | haste | Mikk: I'm just saying it sounds like bloat to just use it for IRC |
| 16:30.38 | Mikk | ah |
| 16:30.40 | Ghent | yeah |
| 16:30.41 | Mikk | yeah ok that i agree with =) |
| 16:30.49 | Mikk | don't give me "bloated browser" though :-P |
| 16:31.03 | Plorkyeran | It uses less ram than mirc with nothing but a few irc windows open :P |
| 16:31.09 | Ghent | it's a bloated browser because it's not just a browser :p |
| 16:31.26 | haste | I use irssi for IRC |
| 16:31.34 | haste | heard it uses lots of ram! |
| 16:31.47 | Ghent | I used to use irssi but then I quit irc.... recently got back on (here) and downloaded x-chat cuz it was quick |
| 16:31.51 | Ghent | I have to admit, it's fairly nice |
| 16:31.54 | Ghent | I miss CLI though |
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| 16:31.57 | Mikk | i wouldn't even think of using mIRC |
| 16:32.05 | Industrial | Mikk: it is actually, *cough* dillo *cough* |
| 16:32.09 | Industrial | xD |
| 16:32.12 | Somani | hm... need more bandwith for the svn, duration is ugly -.- |
| 16:32.13 | Quantuvis | sure opera has a shitload of crap bundled that few people ever use - but compare the mem usage and performance to firefox and you'll be amazed... those norwegians are crazy! |
| 16:32.27 | Ghent | crazy norwegians!@ |
| 16:32.29 | Kemayo | So, wowace/file is broken on externals, and you can't upload files to the forums currently... ;_; |
| 16:32.35 | Tain | I still dislike all Windows IRC clients. |
| 16:32.44 | Mikk | Actually, I think I use everything that Opera has |
| 16:32.51 | Mikk | All the major tickboxes anyway |
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| 16:32.59 | Mikk | browse, mail, torrents, irc |
| 16:33.14 | Quantuvis | i'm pretty close too mikk... although i prefer azureus for my torrents, and i have irc running in mirc on my laptop |
| 16:33.20 | Tain | uTorrent! |
| 16:33.28 | Ghent | I'd use linux on here, but it's my work laptop and they get upset when I keep wiping off the corporate image |
| 16:33.36 | Ghent | so I'm installing coLinux w/ Gentoo |
| 16:33.38 | Ghent | yum |
| 16:33.39 | Mikk | Quantuvis: Yeah, I use uTorrent for *cough* warez *cough* where it matters if you have e.g. DHT or not |
| 16:33.41 | Kalamadi | Azureus! |
| 16:33.43 | lotheac | about externals, would putting libs in one place (say ~/libs) and symlinking every addon's libs folder to that work? That way I could skip loading those libraries that aren't required but only download the ones I need once per update. |
| 16:33.47 | Industrial | uTorrent |
| 16:33.48 | Mikk | But it's pretty slick to have it in the browser too for quick downloads =) |
| 16:33.49 | Kalamadi | Ghent: <3 Gentoo |
| 16:33.53 | Ghent | gentoo owns |
| 16:34.01 | Kalamadi | emerge is the best |
| 16:34.15 | Plorkyeran | I use opera's bittorent support for things I don't have to keep seeding after they're done downloading |
| 16:34.23 | Tain | I used Gentoo for a couple of years until a bad commit on something broke my system dead after an emerge. |
| 16:34.23 | Plorkyeran | And utorrent for the "other" stuff |
| 16:34.35 | Kalamadi | Ouch |
| 16:34.36 | Tain | And since I had to reinstall I figured I'd try something else. |
| 16:34.39 | Xuerian | lotheac: No, because not all addons use the same names for lib folders (eg AceLocale vs AceLocale-2.0) |
| 16:34.40 | Ghent | http://www.philotic.org/projects/splash/gsg-henrietta-01/ |
| 16:34.48 | Kalamadi | My emerges keep failing because my .config is missing :x |
| 16:34.48 | Ghent | old screenshot, but still pretty :D |
| 16:35.02 | haste | Tain: had to re-install? :o |
| 16:35.03 | Tain | I don't blame Gentoo for it mind you, the same thing could have happened with a bad package from anyone. |
| 16:35.07 | haste | I broke Shadow on my server |
| 16:35.11 | haste | ie. all logins |
| 16:35.18 | lotheac | Xuerian: but svn resolves symlinks? I could just link AceLocale to AceLocale-2.0 too |
| 16:35.20 | haste | easy to fix with a CD :p |
| 16:35.23 | Ghent | hahaha |
| 16:35.27 | Ghent | how'd you break shadowutils? :p |
| 16:35.36 | Xuerian | lotheac: Though if you made sure to copy all variants, I guess it would. Easier to use the Libs zip on the SVN and just delete the lib folders all together, replacing only what ones weren't in the Lib distribution |
| 16:35.37 | nevcairiel | nice skin :) |
| 16:35.43 | Ghent | nev, thank you |
| 16:35.43 | haste | emerge -C shadow && emerge -1 shadow |
| 16:35.43 | Tain | yeah well I could have fixed it but at the time I didn't know what the actual problem was and it wasn't reported yet because it was only on certain configurations. |
| 16:35.45 | Kalamadi | Question |
| 16:35.48 | haste | emerge -C shadow runs, then power goes |
| 16:35.54 | Kalamadi | How do you get the splash to load? |
| 16:35.54 | Ghent | I was gonna make a bunch of WoW themes but I got lazy |
| 16:36.05 | lotheac | Xuerian: but won't that load unnecessary libs as well? |
| 16:36.17 | Tain | So after a couple of days I just installed .. uh.. I think Ubuntu |
| 16:36.34 | Kalamadi | Hiss! Boo! I hated Ubuntu |
| 16:36.39 | Xuerian | lotheac: All addons have to properly list externals in their svn:externals, but where they link them is different... I guess if you grabbed it from svn properties it would work, assuming you checked out everything you use |
| 16:36.42 | Groggles | have any of you tried compiz or beryl? |
| 16:36.59 | Xuerian | lotheac: Perhaps, but it would only load them once. symlinking doesn't change how many times they're loaded |
| 16:37.06 | Tain | It was a though decision though, the only reason I didn't go back to FreeBSD was because it didn't support my SATA MB in RAID as nicely as I wanted from what I was reading. |
| 16:37.08 | lotheac | no, but I'm told only one copy is left in memory anyway |
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| 16:37.22 | Kalamadi | I kept ending up with dependancies I couldn't fix because ubuntu had "custom" packages |
| 16:37.26 | Ghent | I haven't used BSD in a long time |
| 16:37.37 | Ghent | like.. 10 years |
| 16:37.44 | Ghent | is it still the same? |
| 16:37.58 | Ghent | I think I used freebsd and openbsd |
| 16:38.31 | Xuerian | lotheac: I guess symlinking it would work, though it would be easier to use Libs and delete whatever isn't used (or delete what's not common and add it back till it works :P) :) |
| 16:38.31 | Ghent | hey look, it's time for my 2 hour lunch |
| 16:38.33 | Ghent | bbl! |
| 16:38.52 | lotheac | but if I delete what isn't used, won't I just get it back at next svn up? :P |
| 16:39.07 | Ghent | not if you tell svn to not check out externals |
| 16:39.29 | nevcairiel | that reminds me of my first unix class at university today, i didnt figure the shell basics could be that boring. and i dont even know who doesnt know about shell commands .. but hey :) |
| 16:39.42 | Xuerian | How do you intend to get them when you symlink it? |
| 16:39.49 | lotheac | Ghent: correct me if I'm wrong but if I ignore externals for !!!Libs how do I update at all |
| 16:39.50 | Xuerian | Oh, hm |
| 16:40.09 | Ghent | ah, I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were talking about !!!Libs |
| 16:40.16 | Xuerian | Ghent: I was :p |
| 16:40.17 | Ghent | okay, eating |
| 16:40.24 | Xuerian | Ghent: I was just avoiding the taboo "!!!" |
| 16:41.12 | Xuerian | Anyway, lotheac, what's the advantage you seen in symlinking vs just normally updating? |
| 16:43.07 | lotheac | well that way I'd get least memory usage by not loading unneeded libs and least bandwidth usage by only updating libs once |
| 16:43.13 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13632 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: |
| 16:43.13 | CIA-17 | ClosetGnome: |
| 16:43.13 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.13 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.45 | Xuerian | How would it save bandwith? SVN would see it as one folder in every single addon, and you would have to update with externals for all addons or you'd risk missing updating a lib |
| 16:44.27 | Xuerian | Unless I'm missing something, which I'm prone to doing :P |
| 16:44.39 | lotheac | well, if addons a and b both used lib x, it seems to me that having lib x in one place with symlinks from both addons, updating addon a would cause addon b not to download lib x since it's already newest |
| 16:45.11 | haste | I don't think WoW likes symlinks |
| 16:45.30 | lotheac | I think wine handles symlinks like regular folders anyway |
| 16:45.33 | lotheac | or files |
| 16:45.46 | haste | it didn't work with wine when I tried at least |
| 16:45.46 | gxam | symlinks do not bother mac wow |
| 16:45.59 | Xuerian | lotheac: There's no point in not trying |
| 16:46.13 | lotheac | so it actually makes sense? |
| 16:47.18 | Xuerian | Not imho in the fact that it sounds like a lot of work, but it makes theoretical sense. |
| 16:47.57 | lotheac | to me linking Library to Library-2.0 sounds like a job for a script, not a lot of work :P |
| 16:48.25 | Xuerian | you've a point. What are you tallying around here for? Hop to! |
| 16:48.40 | lotheac | I'm raiding at the moment so it's a bit hard |
| 16:48.49 | Xuerian | BAH. Excuses! |
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| 16:50.13 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: pm |
| 16:54.14 | Josh_Borke | Does AceComm redirect ALL messages back to the addon (ala self messages need to be weeded out by the addon)? |
| 16:54.22 | Josh_Borke | i would assume yes, but i'm just making sure :-D |
| 16:56.33 | cnc`away | symlinks don't bother wow under wine at all |
| 16:56.34 | cnc`away | tried |
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| 16:57.04 | CIA-17 | 03andalia * r13633 10BattleChat/BattleChat.toc: BattleChat: Updated .toc for the new parserlib-files |
| 16:58.57 | eternally777 | Is there a deuce'd WhisperCast? |
| 17:01.08 | CIA-17 | 03andalia * r13634 10BattleChat_Buffs/BattleChat_Buffs.lua: BattleChat_Buffs: "Big bad Buffname (Seriously)" -> "BbB(S)" :D |
| 17:02.25 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r13635 10BabbleLib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Babble-Spell: updated all zhCN spell localizations |
| 17:05.39 | Mikk | [Ammo]: http://81.233.236.26/wiggy.png ? |
| 17:05.49 | snurre- | who do I need to blow to get keybinds for closetgnome btw? |
| 17:06.01 | Mikk | Will prolly look crap at around 16x16 tho :-/ |
| 17:07.26 | snurre- | uhm, hang on.. who changed the texture for oCD and ora2 mt frames?? |
| 17:07.31 | Mikma | hehe |
| 17:07.42 | Mikma | that's neat icon |
| 17:07.51 | vhaarr | Mikk: Could you try just removing the glow mist around the orb? |
| 17:07.59 | vhaarr | Mikk: Not the glow, just the red outside it. |
| 17:08.02 | vhaarr | If you know what I mean. |
| 17:08.03 | Mikk | can try |
| 17:08.11 | vhaarr | That'd make it clearer at smaller scales, I think. |
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| 17:21.32 | Mikk | vhaar: http://81.233.236.26/wiggy.png |
| 17:21.51 | Funkeh` | quit question, how do you stop praid from showing "mana" messages |
| 17:21.55 | Funkeh` | quick* |
| 17:22.40 | Funkeh` | i thought it might be under the buffs list but i cant see it, i only have fort and spirit enabled |
| 17:24.19 | axxo | lvl 53 priest with jin'do hexxer and jin'do's evil eye in his bags :\ |
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| 17:25.43 | Mikk | http://81.233.236.26/wiggy-32x32.png http://81.233.236.26/wiggy-32x32-desaturated.png (incl .tga versions) |
| 17:26.08 | Mikk | hm the desaturated one is a bit bright.... sec. |
| 17:26.37 | maia | anyone happen to know how to 'rename' a frame? I'd want to e.g.: frames["alpha"] = CreateFrame() ... frames["beta"] = frames["alpha"]; frames["alpha"] = nil (which seems to copy the frame and gc the old one, so its not the best solution) |
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| 17:26.58 | Mikk | fixed desaturated |
| 17:26.59 | maia | aka something like compost for frames |
| 17:27.02 | vhaarr | Mikk: See the red glow outside the yellow circle? How does it look if you remove it all. |
| 17:27.18 | vhaarr | ? |
| 17:27.21 | Goggles | nub lua question: Why would "someValue = string.gsub(someValue, "[gemcount]", string.format(L["COLOUR_GEM"], gemCount))" cause WoW to hang? |
| 17:28.02 | Mikk | maia: What that does is simply put the frame reference in a new variable. Nothing strange about it. It's just a Lua table. |
| 17:28.16 | Mikk | There's no copying going on, and no GC either. |
| 17:28.22 | maia | Mikk: so it doesnt involve GC? good to know. |
| 17:29.38 | Mikk | vhaarr: Hm... I dunno. But that version looks ok in 16x16 to me. |
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| 17:30.44 | vhaarr | I think it makes it look jagged. |
| 17:31.37 | Royal | Remove a bit more and there wont be any orb left :P |
| 17:31.59 | vhaarr | It can be stripped down to the yellow circle, I think. |
| 17:32.05 | vhaarr | Would be a perfect circle then. |
| 17:33.36 | Funkeh` | ok heres another one |
| 17:33.44 | Funkeh` | praid shows "mana" when your dead Oo |
| 17:34.12 | yacoob | maia, maia. Can I get a little tiny bit of credits in Grid? :) |
| 17:34.20 | yacoob | as the idea seeder? :) |
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| 17:35.01 | maia | yacoob: the entire ace community will be credited |
| 17:35.18 | yacoob | ckknight, are you able to shed some light on ace's (well, fubar's but I think it's ace anyway) profile weirdness? |
| 17:35.20 | Kalamadi | maia: I have an idea for Grid, if you're willing to hear it XP |
| 17:35.26 | maia | shoot |
| 17:35.32 | Mikk | vhaarr: Try now. |
| 17:35.38 | yacoob | ckknight, as in, cannot 'load from', the option is simply greyed out |
| 17:36.12 | Kalamadi | The unit border; could one specify a priority as to which status effect is shown? I.e. for a cleanser, debuffs are shown with higher priority, whereas main healers would want the converse |
| 17:37.00 | maia | Kalamadi: yeah, modules can optionally pass a priority integer |
| 17:38.08 | Kalamadi | maia: Then I'll have to look into making a module for that when you've gotten the framework setup :D |
| 17:38.34 | maia | you can start coding your core anytime. |
| 17:38.46 | maia | the communication is done via events as proposed by pastamancer |
| 17:38.57 | Kalamadi | I'm not a veteran programmer; I need to see some examples to make my own code |
| 17:39.53 | yacoob | MUTT |
| 17:39.57 | yacoob | blah. |
| 17:40.55 | Kalamadi | With the number of questions I'll have to ask, it'd be just as well that the assisting person write the addon themself XP |
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| 17:42.28 | Mikk | or, I could play wow |
| 17:42.56 | Mikk | or, I could fix the EPGauge icon. oo. |
| 17:43.06 | Kalamadi | I'm triple-wielding |
| 17:43.11 | cncfanatics | or you cld fix the icon and then play wow |
| 17:43.13 | Kalamadi | IRC + AV + Cowboy Bebop |
| 17:43.14 | cncfanatics | u'll get a cookie |
| 17:43.18 | Mikk | cookies! |
| 17:43.38 | Kalamadi | Inkscape! |
| 17:43.52 | cncfanatics | I love these dev channels :) |
| 17:43.56 | cncfanatics | relaxes while I code |
| 17:46.11 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, what happens if I loop on an empty table with ipairs but with n set to 120 with setn ? |
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| 17:46.19 | cncfanatics | will it loop 120 times or none at all? |
| 17:46.45 | maia | Kalamadi: well, the module code can probably be pretty simple. it might look like this: http://pastebin.ca/197991 (note, I'm not aware on how to really create a module, but you can worry about that later and just prepare everything thats needed to trigger an event) |
| 17:47.19 | SilentFov | hi.. anyone can help me with error message when i pop up channel menu :"FloatingChatFrame.lua:476:attempt to index local color(a nil value) |
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| 17:47.29 | Kalamadi | maia: I suppose, from here, I can wait for the pastamancer wiki and glean information from there? |
| 17:47.49 | maia | SilentFov: get the latest AceComm or check the Ace RC2 thread in the dev board as the fix is mentioned there |
| 17:47.57 | maia | yeah |
| 17:48.04 | pastamancer | it'll be a few days still before I have a status module api worked out |
| 17:48.19 | pastamancer | I can give you a rough idea though |
| 17:48.29 | Kalamadi | No rush |
| 17:48.36 | maia | true, but basically one can write any kind of addon that simply triggers events (even if they get sent to nowhere) |
| 17:48.41 | SilentFov | maia: RC2 thread ? |
| 17:49.12 | maia | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1648.0 |
| 17:49.31 | SilentFov | tnx alot |
| 17:49.55 | Kalamadi | maia: All I have to do is set Grid (is that the final name?) as a dependancy, right? |
| 17:50.02 | maia | e.g. a druid addon could watch UNIT_MANA for the entire raid, and if a unit has <10% mana, just trigger an event |
| 17:50.33 | Kalamadi | So you're building Grid with the functions to make additional modules effective. Okay. |
| 17:50.44 | maia | Kalamadi: we havent really decided if modules will be part of the addon Grid or seperate. I'm leaning to merging them with Grid (like oRA and BigWigs, and also Prat) |
| 17:51.14 | Kalamadi | How hard is it to convert between included or separated? |
| 17:51.19 | Ghent | maia, I was wondering if I could interject a quick question: in the bartender thread you have an image near the front of what you hoped bartender could look like... did anyone ever get that working? |
| 17:51.45 | maia | dunno. probably easy. I'd just not want to force people to download 15 zip files to have a working addon |
| 17:51.46 | Groggles | yeah its Bartender2_Dreamlayout |
| 17:51.53 | maia | Ghent: yeah. |
| 17:52.19 | Kalamadi | maia: Not to mention 15 folders are a pain in the arse to SVN |
| 17:52.35 | maia | ya |
| 17:52.46 | maia | especially if they'd all have their embedded libs |
| 17:53.05 | Kalamadi | Eh. People shouldn't be doing that anymore, though |
| 17:53.29 | Ghent | sorry to jump in, but I've always been a bit confused about the whole modular discussion. Why not have modules that exist in sub directories like BigWigs? Then there aren't 15 top level folders but the addon is still modularized |
| 17:53.44 | Kalamadi | Ghent: That's the plan, methinks |
| 17:54.22 | Ghent | it always seemed like the sensible compromise to me |
| 17:56.01 | Kalamadi | The enormity of the task which I've taken upon myself is setting in :x |
| 17:56.12 | Ghent | hehe, I feel the same way about the mod I'm writing :p |
| 17:56.18 | maia | Ghent: thats my plan for Grid. |
| 17:56.22 | Ghent | especially since I think over the past week I've decided to stop playing WoW |
| 17:56.40 | Kalamadi | Wait. So you're writing an addon for a game you're not going to play? |
| 17:56.45 | Ghent | I dunno |
| 17:56.55 | Ghent | I might be :P |
| 17:57.08 | Ghent | I login and play WoW more out of rote habit then any actual enjoyment |
| 17:57.15 | Ghent | and that's kinda come to me attention lately |
| 17:57.19 | Ghent | my* |
| 17:57.54 | Ghent | maia: grid looks pretty nice btw |
| 17:57.57 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r13636 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Add a db-upgrade condition for people with *really* old databases. (From work, untested. But only a single line if/else.) |
| 17:58.01 | Ghent | if my compliments mean anything :D |
| 17:59.40 | Xuerian | Grid does look nice, and I agree Ghent, the biggest reason I've been writing XLoot is that I'm bored of wow, and have pretty much only been sitting in there testing the last three weeks :P |
| 17:59.43 | Kalamadi | maia: Is class sorting/filtering a default option? |
| 17:59.51 | maia | ya |
| 17:59.55 | Kalamadi | Much <3 |
| 18:00.00 | pastamancer | my intent is to allow modules to live with the main addon or in an external addon |
| 18:00.03 | Ghent | Xuerian, yeah, that's the only reason I've been logging in as well |
| 18:00.37 | pastamancer | that way Grid can come with some nice default modules and let people go nuts with their own without requiring them to be added to the main addon |
| 18:00.59 | Ghent | are you two writing Grid together? |
| 18:01.02 | Xuerian | it's sortof scary, can't even quit wow when bored =| |
| 18:01.09 | maia | yes |
| 18:01.18 | Kalamadi | I think maia's writing the core and pasta's writing the module system...? |
| 18:01.18 | cncfanatics | Xuerian: Get coding something :p |
| 18:01.21 | Ghent | Xuerian, I believe they call that an addiction |
| 18:01.28 | Ghent | maia, pasta, very nice :D |
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| 18:01.32 | Xuerian | Weee XD |
| 18:01.40 | maia | currently I'm doing the UI stuff, frames etc - and pastamancer is OOing and writing the module system |
| 18:01.44 | pastamancer | Kalamadi: http://kyle.13th-floor.org/wow/Grid/test/GridStatus-Banzai.lua |
| 18:02.03 | pastamancer | that's just a first-try at how a status module *might* look |
| 18:02.18 | maia | Mikk: ping |
| 18:02.23 | Ghent | 13th floor as in the movie? |
| 18:02.35 | Kalamadi | Ah |
| 18:02.35 | pastamancer | no, as in the floor that elevators don't go to |
| 18:02.47 | pastamancer | stupid movies >< |
| 18:02.50 | Ghent | :P |
| 18:03.11 | Ghent | the movie was bad but had some interesting concepts behind it |
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| 18:04.27 | Ghent | I suppose I should do some work on JackKnife |
| 18:04.32 | Kalamadi | pastamancer: I'm to assume this is basic on-aggro alert? |
| 18:05.41 | pastamancer | Kalamadi: it is. The unit's frame would have to decide how to display a status of "aggro" |
| 18:06.11 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: I am, case and point: |
| 18:06.20 | Kalamadi | Much thanks, then |
| 18:06.22 | pastamancer | the events haven't been finalized yet or even really organized much |
| 18:06.34 | Kalamadi | The events won't be the hard part |
| 18:06.46 | Kalamadi | Figuring out how to specify priority for the different classes will |
| 18:06.48 | pastamancer | well, there need to be a few major categories |
| 18:06.52 | Darkis | Hello, what is the diffrence betwen running old school UI for wow and the ACE ones? |
| 18:06.57 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r13637 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Added item substacking (IE 3x [Wool Cloth] vs [Wool Cloth] [Wool Cloth] [Wool Cloth]) for items and money. Re-wrote money handling. |
| 18:07.36 | pastamancer | and the status module will send a priority with the event. the frame then decides how to display it |
| 18:07.49 | Ghent | Darkis, what do you mean by 'old school UI'? |
| 18:07.52 | Kalamadi | See, for paladins, it's easy; you only care about aggro and debuff. However, priests care about shields, aggro, two different debuffs, etc. |
| 18:07.56 | cncfanatics | non ace addons I supose |
| 18:08.49 | Darkis | Ghent like CTRA and so one |
| 18:08.56 | Kalamadi | s/one/on/ |
| 18:08.59 | pastamancer | I'm not even worrying about that :p Once the GridStatus API is finalized, I'll let other people worry about writing status moduled |
| 18:09.07 | Kalamadi | Aye |
| 18:09.20 | pastamancer | and I should have eaten lunch 2 hours ago! |
| 18:09.21 | Kalamadi | And I won't know what manner of flexibility I'll have to work with until the core's finished, right? |
| 18:09.22 | Ghent | Darkis, Ace/Ace2 is a framework to write addons in that provides an easier method to write more efficient addons |
| 18:09.23 | Darkis | will my fps be better if i use ace instead or what are the main diffrence? |
| 18:09.48 | Ghent | Darkis, thus, if your addons are more efficient, they use less resources from your computer, leaving those resources free for other things, like the game itself |
| 18:09.52 | Darkis | Ghent so the addons itself work as wichother addon ? |
| 18:09.52 | Kalamadi | Also, the redundancy of code uses less memory in the long run |
| 18:09.53 | pastamancer | Kalamadi: I'm still going with the plan I laid out in my post in the Grid thread |
| 18:10.39 | Ghent | Darkis, Ace addons are just addons, they're just written with a common "style" |
| 18:10.39 | Darkis | oki but can i run both ace addons and non ace addons in same time? |
| 18:10.39 | Ghent | yes |
| 18:10.39 | pastamancer | which may not be as organized as I'd like |
| 18:10.43 | krka | not just style |
| 18:10.51 | Darkis | do i need anything special to use an ace addon beside the addon itself? |
| 18:10.51 | krka | using the ace library addons |
| 18:10.55 | Ghent | krka, I'm attempting to simplify it :p |
| 18:11.12 | krka | simplifying doesn't mean being incorrect |
| 18:11.22 | krka | in fact, that often difficultifies it |
| 18:11.23 | pastamancer | but assume you'll have Grid:StatusGained(string unitid, string category, string status, number priority, string color, string text or "") and Grid:StatusLost(string unitid, string status) |
| 18:11.30 | Ghent | it's not incorrect to someone who doesn't understand what libraries are :p |
| 18:12.05 | Kalamadi | pastamancer: oookay. I'mma write this down :x |
| 18:12.19 | Darkis | well do i need something else to run an ace based addon more than the addon itself? |
| 18:12.25 | Ghent | Darkis, typically no |
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| 18:12.50 | Kalamadi | With Ace, you'll need the core library (Ace); with Ace2, the addons will typically come with the libraries attached |
| 18:12.52 | Darkis | will addons like CTRA and Titanbar be changed over to the ace library style? |
| 18:12.54 | Ghent | Darkis, most of them have everything they need built into them, the ones that don't usually say what else they need |
| 18:13.14 | krka | not much point in converting an existing and working addon to ace |
| 18:13.18 | Darkis | whats the diffrence betwen ace and ace2? |
| 18:13.21 | Ghent | Darkis, no, but there are Ace-based addons that are very similiar |
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| 18:13.36 | benjdr | hey guys what combat logs are you all using? simplecombatlog is totally broke in raids it seems. |
| 18:13.37 | Ghent | Ace2 is newer than Ace and more efficient |
| 18:13.48 | lacindas | mornin all |
| 18:13.48 | Darkis | krka wouldent it be a point converting the addons if it is as you say more power efficient? |
| 18:13.51 | Xuerian | Darkis: CTRA will not be a ace addon, and the ace community in general uses FuBar instead of titan. -- Ace was not embedded (Ace-embedded addons INCLUDE whatever they require, ace1 (non-emebedded) require a separate addon |
| 18:13.58 | krka | i never said it was more power efficient |
| 18:14.00 | lacindas | benjdr: what do you mean broken in raids? |
| 18:14.02 | pastamancer | Kalamadi: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2525.msg51330#msg51330 just ignore the stuff about GridLayoutGroup at the bottom |
| 18:14.16 | Kalamadi | pastamancer: Okay, thankee |
| 18:14.27 | Darkis | Xuerian so fubar are like titan one? |
| 18:14.27 | Kalamadi | I need to figure out a swifter way of navigating on my laptop x_x |
| 18:14.31 | benjdr | lacindas: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2366.0 |
| 18:14.36 | Ghent | Darkis, yes |
| 18:14.40 | Darkis | is there any place with screenshotts for all the ace based addons? |
| 18:14.41 | Ghent | FuBar is very much like Titan |
| 18:14.44 | Ghent | yes |
| 18:14.48 | Mikk | maia: pong |
| 18:14.53 | pastamancer | Kalamadi: afk. lunching... for real |
| 18:15.06 | Xuerian | wowace.com/wiki has some, many Ace'd addons are released on WoWInterface.com |
| 18:15.07 | Ghent | Darkis, http://www.wowinterface.com has a lot of the Ace-based addons |
| 18:15.13 | Ghent | like FuBar |
| 18:15.17 | Darkis | becouse if it is as u all say that they work more efficient then i guess i go over to use only ace based ones |
| 18:15.23 | Kalamadi | There's a whole "Ace" section |
| 18:15.37 | Kalamadi | Darkis: Feel free to bother me about how to implement Ace; I've a lot of free time today |
| 18:15.53 | Kalamadi | Everyone else: You can thank me, I'm a martyr |
| 18:15.54 | Xuerian | Darkis: Not all Ace addons work more efficiently. It still comes down to the author to make it efficient. However, most authors that are in the ace community value efficiency more |
| 18:15.55 | Ghent | you guys are confusing him with too much info :p |
| 18:16.03 | benjdr | lacindas: any ideas? |
| 18:16.09 | Darkis | thanks becouse the problem is im wery depending ont he addons i have now so i need to get simular addons for all my purposes |
| 18:16.24 | Ghent | Darkis, are you unhappy with how your addons run now? |
| 18:16.35 | lacindas | benjdr: not without checkin the code, no, havent had that error myself |
| 18:16.47 | Darkis | well im feeling that they might take to much memory |
| 18:16.56 | Ghent | Kalamadi, swifter way of navigating on a laptop? |
| 18:16.56 | Xuerian | Where's that "Raiding with ace addons..." topic/wiki page.... |
| 18:16.56 | benjdr | interesting |
| 18:16.59 | lacindas | have you pinpointed a cause or trigger for the error? |
| 18:17.07 | benjdr | why would it work for some and not others |
| 18:17.11 | Darkis | i like the addons in the way they working and what they doing but not the memory it sucks |
| 18:17.32 | Ghent | Darkis, how do you know they're taking too much memory? |
| 18:17.55 | Xuerian | I'd assume he's using Titan's perfmon and is getting hit with GC's often :P |
| 18:17.57 | Darkis | becouse when i disable the addons my fps get up and such |
| 18:18.02 | Kalamadi | Ghent: Yeah; I'm running fluxbox, but my keybindings keep getting reset |
| 18:18.09 | Kalamadi | Alt-tab would be a godsend right about now |
| 18:18.14 | Ghent | Xuerian, yes, but he doesn't know half of what you just said :p |
| 18:18.23 | Xuerian | lol |
| 18:18.26 | CIA-17 | 03tazmanyak * r13638 10Squishy/localization.frFR.lua: |
| 18:18.26 | CIA-17 | Squishy/localization.frFR.lua |
| 18:18.26 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.37 | Xuerian | Darkis: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Raiding_with_Ace_AddOns |
| 18:18.39 | lacindas | benjdr: looking at the code, it would have something to do with gaining xp while in a raid |
| 18:18.46 | Ghent | Darkis, my advice to you then is to go through your addons one by one and find out which ones are causing the most problems |
| 18:18.47 | Kalamadi | My friend's going to love me when he logs on today... |
| 18:18.52 | Ghent | and then seeing if there are Ace replacements for them |
| 18:19.04 | lacindas | benjdr: ill try to do some testing today and see if i can reproduce it |
| 18:19.10 | Kalamadi | I've ground AV from before Friendly through Honored XD |
| 18:19.22 | Darkis | Ghent i would say its not 1 addon cousing more than the other its the compilation of the addons i use (i have about 90 running) |
| 18:19.39 | Ghent | Darkis, you have to understand that addons are like cars... you're not gonna be able to just replace all your addons with different ones and everything will be the same... things will be different and you'll have to learn how to use them properly |
| 18:19.42 | Kalamadi | Ghent: Do you know syntax for fluxbox's keybindings? |
| 18:20.05 | Ghent | Darkis, if you're as dependant on your addons as you say you are, then you're gonna go through a very uncomfortable period while you adjust |
| 18:20.07 | benjdr | lacindas: oh thanks very much |
| 18:20.10 | Ghent | Kalamadi, I'm sorry, I don't |
| 18:20.16 | Ghent | I don't know what fluxbox is |
| 18:20.19 | Kalamadi | Fie :< |
| 18:20.26 | Kalamadi | Fluxbox is a window manager for Linux |
| 18:20.29 | benjdr | lacindas: i might not encounter it any more since i got 60 last night? |
| 18:20.33 | Kalamadi | Like explorer.exe for windows |
| 18:20.34 | Ghent | ah |
| 18:20.37 | Ghent | aye |
| 18:20.41 | Ghent | never used it though |
| 18:20.50 | Ghent | I tend to use enlightenment if I use X |
| 18:20.52 | Kalamadi | (Even though I use blackbox for windows on my windows box XP) |
| 18:20.54 | Darkis | ghent if i give u a screenie on how i have it now could u make any comments of easy changes? |
| 18:21.13 | Ghent | Darkis, easy changes would be replacing Titan with FuBar |
| 18:21.14 | Kalamadi | Darkis: Do as they said and go through all your addons one by one |
| 18:21.28 | Kalamadi | Though FuBar is much better than Titan |
| 18:21.36 | Ghent | but if you raid alot switching CTRA with oRA is gonna confuse you for a bit |
| 18:21.39 | lacindas | anyone using the latest rev of ToFu? |
| 18:21.51 | Darkis | i raid every day.. =/ |
| 18:21.52 | Kalamadi | Go to WoWinterface.com, go to downloads, find the FuBar section |
| 18:22.02 | Ghent | Darkis, then make one change at a time |
| 18:22.04 | Kalamadi | And read - lots. |
| 18:22.10 | Ghent | go download FuBar and try it out (turn off titan) |
| 18:22.19 | Ghent | when you get used to it, try another thing |
| 18:22.23 | Kalamadi | Information is the greatest tool of them all. |
| 18:22.25 | Ghent | and yeah, do what Kala said... read read read |
| 18:22.42 | lacindas | benjdr: (sry didnt see that ?) im levelin a shaman right now and havent seen it at all, so no clue lol |
| 18:22.50 | Ghent | it's a lot of work to really start streamlining your UI |
| 18:22.52 | Darkis | hmm were did i find fubar again? |
| 18:23.01 | lacindas | wowinterface.com |
| 18:23.02 | Ghent | you can't just do it in an hour |
| 18:23.05 | Ghent | http://www.wowinterface.com |
| 18:23.06 | Kalamadi | WoWinterface.com -> Downloads -> Fubar |
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| 18:23.12 | lacindas | hiya ckk |
| 18:23.40 | Darkis | hmm lol im noob today dont find the fubar |
| 18:23.56 | Mikma | i buffed inner fire and got shield CD on chronometer :D |
| 18:23.59 | Ghent | it's not hard man :p |
| 18:24.11 | Ghent | if you can't find the mod to download then maybe you don't wanna be messing around with things :p |
| 18:24.13 | Darkis | hmm wich of all the fubars is the one that replace titan? |
| 18:24.22 | benjdr | lacindas: have you been in a "raid" group though? |
| 18:24.25 | Ghent | FuBar itself, but then it has many modules |
| 18:24.52 | lacindas | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat86.html <--- WoWI FuBar section |
| 18:24.52 | Xuerian | Darkis: FuBar, just like TitanBar, has plugins. TitanBar itself is just a bar, so is FuBar. All the FuBar plugins are listed on the FuBar page |
| 18:24.57 | Xuerian | (or thee) |
| 18:25.03 | Xuerian | s/thee/there |
| 18:25.07 | Xuerian | blah. /wrists |
| 18:25.12 | lacindas | lol x |
| 18:25.42 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.51 | lacindas | bah why wont tortoise let me revert a revision gah |
| 18:25.55 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: Really?! |
| 18:26.27 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: Do you mean that button remapping will work in WoW 2.0.0, or that you've gotten mapping working in the Ace2 version? |
| 18:26.39 | cncfanatics | normaly both |
| 18:26.46 | cncfanatics | but I can't be sure as I can't access TBC |
| 18:26.52 | Darkis | is it fubar 2.0 that i need? or is there newer ones? |
| 18:26.53 | Kalamadi | I see. |
| 18:27.01 | Kalamadi | Darkis: That's the newest |
| 18:27.02 | cncfanatics | but as i'm not using any blizz code it shld work in 2.0.0 |
| 18:27.16 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: You have no idea how happy this makes me. |
| 18:27.20 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 18:27.28 | cncfanatics | will make a lot of ppl happy when it gets released |
| 18:27.34 | Kalamadi | I won't have to totally rework my UI! Woo~ |
| 18:27.41 | Ghent | Darkis, FuBar 2.0 |
| 18:27.43 | cncfanatics | hmmmmm, while I think about that |
| 18:27.51 | cncfanatics | need to make an addon to convert fb1 settings to fb2 |
| 18:28.01 | Darkis | Ghent so if thats wery simular to titan whats the behind scene diffrence? |
| 18:28.13 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: I thought of a graphical change which would be sort of nice, if you're willing to listen |
| 18:28.34 | kergoth | mjc: http://homepage.mac.com/hiirem/svkbuilds.html looks like there are prebuilt binaries for osx, including the test release of 2.0 with its support for views.. |
| 18:28.41 | Ghent | Darkis, that's a very large and complicated question |
| 18:29.12 | cncfanatics | fb2 will most probably support themes |
| 18:29.17 | cncfanatics | at least, thats on my todo list |
| 18:29.26 | Darkis | Ghent oki i make it esyer will fubar take less memory than titan bar? |
| 18:29.34 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: What about a transparent button border, but a full group border instead? |
| 18:29.34 | Ghent | yes |
| 18:29.43 | Darkis | Ghent will i notice it? |
| 18:29.44 | cncfanatics | hmmm, might think about that |
| 18:29.52 | Ghent | Darkis, I don't know, you may, you may not :P |
| 18:29.56 | cncfanatics | lemme first do the last things to have the actionbuttons totaly ready |
| 18:30.01 | cncfanatics | then i'm open for suggestions |
| 18:30.07 | Ghent | Darkis, your computer will notice it, however. |
| 18:30.18 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: Alright. When you're done the alpha, feel free to let me test it out |
| 18:30.29 | Darkis | oki i downloaded the ground one now i just need to find out what addons to fubar i need =) |
| 18:30.42 | cncfanatics | Kalamadi: hmmm, not even slash commands yet, but if u want, sure |
| 18:30.48 | lacindas | darkis: grab the starter pack and go from there :) |
| 18:30.59 | Ghent | Darkis, have fun :) There's a lot of cool mods for FuBar that don't exist for Titan |
| 18:31.05 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: I need something to screw around with on my friend's warrior while I'm burning AV queues :P |
| 18:31.06 | Ghent | Darkis, you might find some new stuff you really like |
| 18:31.10 | Darkis | just found my next lover one |
| 18:31.14 | cncfanatics | av queues ? -.- |
| 18:31.19 | cncfanatics | is that possible with crossbg : |
| 18:31.20 | lacindas | lol |
| 18:31.25 | Ghent | mmm AV |
| 18:31.26 | Darkis | Ghent since i play dorf priest i found the Fearward one to look cool |
| 18:31.27 | Kalamadi | Yeah, they're an hour long in my group |
| 18:31.34 | cncfanatics | :/ |
| 18:31.37 | lacindas | ouch =\ |
| 18:31.38 | Ghent | ouch |
| 18:31.39 | Ghent | sucks to be in your group |
| 18:31.40 | cncfanatics | 5 mins here |
| 18:31.45 | Ghent | 2m here |
| 18:31.53 | Kalamadi | It's at a low time, though; 11:30 PM server |
| 18:31.56 | Ghent | although, I have to say, I really miss the original AV's |
| 18:31.57 | Kalamadi | Rather |
| 18:32.00 | Kalamadi | 11:30 AM server >_> |
| 18:32.06 | Ghent | all this dumbed down BG's of today are meh |
| 18:32.14 | cncfanatics | I don't miss old bgs at all :p |
| 18:32.16 | Kalamadi | Ghent: Yeah, I liked the pride of soloing the mines |
| 18:32.17 | Ghent | s/this/these |
| 18:32.21 | cncfanatics | horde used to lose ALL avs in the old days |
| 18:32.26 | cncfanatics | now its 50/50 win loss |
| 18:32.31 | Kalamadi | Ghent: I used to solo the mine with my shadowpriest. That was awesome |
| 18:32.32 | Ghent | that's not the AV's fault |
| 18:32.45 | cncfanatics | oh, u mean with all the npc's ? |
| 18:32.59 | Ghent | npcs, objectives, etc |
| 18:33.11 | Kalamadi | It felt like a really epic battle then |
| 18:33.12 | Ghent | I remember the 2nd AV I was in lasted 7 days |
| 18:33.16 | Ghent | that was an awesome, awesome AV |
| 18:33.21 | cncfanatics | 7 DAYS AV ? |
| 18:33.23 | cncfanatics | wow |
| 18:33.27 | Ghent | yep |
| 18:33.37 | Ghent | it was cool going to sleep and waking up and signing into the same AV again |
| 18:33.39 | Ghent | hehe |
| 18:33.42 | Ghent | so much honor ^^ |
| 18:33.47 | cncfanatics | now its just, bash the opposite's faction leader, meh |
| 18:33.50 | Ghent | yeah |
| 18:33.52 | Ghent | exactly |
| 18:34.01 | Ghent | no point to it anymore |
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| 18:34.18 | Ghent | shit, in my group no one even really PVP's except in defense |
| 18:34.28 | Ghent | you watch the horde and the alliance just run by each other in the middle of the map |
| 18:34.46 | Kalamadi | Epic? Not anymore :/ |
| 18:34.55 | Ghent | I imagine it's fairly the same in other groups as well |
| 18:35.04 | cncfanatics | well, av is kinda boring for me , i'm a full epic mage, not fun against blue/green ppl :/ |
| 18:35.06 | Kalamadi | Pretty much, yeah |
| 18:35.23 | Ghent | I'm a full epic rogue |
| 18:35.25 | Kalamadi | I've won three AVs in a row (alliance) and it's just the same race |
| 18:35.26 | Ghent | it's fun to gank |
| 18:35.32 | Ghent | kala, aye |
| 18:35.32 | Kalamadi | 30 offense, 10 defense, wtc. |
| 18:35.36 | cncfanatics | neh, ain't fun to gank some nubs at 41 yrds |
| 18:35.39 | Kalamadi | s/wtc/etc/ |
| 18:36.04 | Ghent | cnc, if they were smart nubs, they'd learn to bait and flank you |
| 18:36.09 | Kalamadi | Anyway |
| 18:36.10 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r13640 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (Kelthuzad.lua Sapphiron.lua): BigWigs: add zhCN locals for Kelthuzad and Sapphiron |
| 18:36.10 | Ghent | that's the other problem with AV these days |
| 18:36.15 | Ghent | it requires no tactical sense |
| 18:36.18 | Kalamadi | I need to figure out how to get alt-tab to work |
| 18:36.32 | Ghent | no strategy |
| 18:36.36 | Ghent | just a numbers game |
| 18:36.41 | cncfanatics | alt-tab, what u mean kala ? ur using WoW with wine maybe ? |
| 18:36.42 | lacindas | ~seen Kemayo |
| 18:37.37 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (9d 22h 58m 6s) #wowace (9d 22h 58m 6s). Has said a total of 130 messages. Is idling for 2h 5m 8s, last said: 'So, wowace/file is broken on externals, and you can't upload files to the forums currently... ;_;'. |
| 18:37.37 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: Nah, just my windowmanager. I'm used to alt-tab for switching and changing windows with a touchpad or nub is sloppy |
| 18:37.37 | Ghent | I love sloppy mode |
| 18:37.45 | Kalamadi | Sloppy mode is scary. |
| 18:37.52 | Ghent | bah |
| 18:37.57 | Ghent | its good once you get used to it :p |
| 18:38.01 | Kalamadi | 9 days? Ick |
| 18:38.13 | Kalamadi | Ghent: I can't use sloppy mode; I have no accuracy with this thing :P |
| 18:38.17 | Ghent | lol |
| 18:38.22 | Ghent | okay, that might be a problem :P |
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| 18:38.45 | Ghent | brb, loading game to test changes in my mod |
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| 18:39.44 | Entropism | hello folks |
| 18:39.55 | cncfanatics | hello |
| 18:40.00 | Xuerian | Heya Entropism. |
| 18:40.05 | lacindas | hiya Entropism |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13641 10BigWigs/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.21 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.25 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.27 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.30 | lacindas | if anyone runs into Kemayo, pls tell him latest ToFu breaks ace2 addons lol |
| 18:41.28 | Kalamadi | Bahahahhaha |
| 18:41.32 | Kalamadi | Alt-tab works again! |
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| 18:42.36 | Kalamadi | s/hh/hah/ |
| 18:43.08 | Ghent | :p |
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| 18:45.46 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13642 10ClosetGnome_BigWigs/ClosetGnome_BigWigs.lua: ClosetGnome_BigWigs: Don't ask to equip the boss set if the set is already equipped. |
| 18:46.58 | Ghent | when you're outputting a string with colors, is the format a, r, g, b or r, g, b, a? |
| 18:47.09 | Ghent | |cff7fff7f |
| 18:47.12 | Kalamadi | The latter |
| 18:47.15 | Ghent | for instance |
| 18:47.21 | Kalamadi | RGBA |
| 18:47.24 | Ghent | kk |
| 18:47.24 | Ghent | thanks |
| 18:47.40 | Kalamadi | I know this because of screwing with oSkin :P |
| 18:49.20 | Darkis | well have to go afk killing patchw4erk |
| 18:49.22 | Xuerian | When using hex values, it's ARGB |
| 18:49.24 | Darkis | il be back later tonight |
| 18:49.34 | Xuerian | When actually setting with r, g, b, it's RGBA |
| 18:50.26 | Kalamadi | Xuerian: Neat. I learned something new |
| 18:50.35 | cncfanatics | I might need that stuff later on, thanks :) |
| 18:50.43 | Kalamadi | Sorry about misinforming you, Ghent |
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| 18:51.27 | Xuerian | Actually, I was wrong on setvertexcolor |
| 18:52.02 | cncfanatics | does the number 0 evaluate to true or false in checks ? |
| 18:52.04 | Ghent | Kalamadi, you're fired. |
| 18:52.16 | Kalamadi | Ghent: Yeah, well! I QUIT. |
| 18:52.17 | Ghent | false |
| 18:52.34 | Kalamadi | D: |
| 18:52.49 | Xuerian | Ok. fontstring:SetText("|c00FF00FF"..text") is the same as fontstring:SetVertexColor(1, 0, 1); fontstring:SetAlpha(0); fontstring:SetText(text) |
| 18:53.12 | Xuerian | In other places where three arguments for color are taken it is generally r, g, b, a |
| 18:53.41 | Xuerian | s/three/four/ |
| 18:53.42 | Entropism | OK, so what's the mod that makes a candybar type visual on skills I've used. not really cooldowns, just like... Telling me how much time is left on a sunder I put on a mob |
| 18:53.57 | Xuerian | Entropism: Chronometer |
| 18:54.02 | kergoth | cncfanatics: if foo then <-is always entered as long as foo is neither nil nor false. |
| 18:54.17 | Entropism | Xuerian: Sweet. Works well? |
| 18:54.26 | Xuerian | As far as I've tried it :) |
| 18:54.27 | kergoth | cncfanatics: so, any value which is neither nil nor false is considered true from a boolean perspective |
| 18:54.40 | kergoth | 0 is "true" |
| 18:54.49 | Xuerian | Contrary to many languages |
| 18:54.51 | Xuerian | :P |
| 18:55.19 | Entropism | Sweet. Between antagonist and that, I can ditch Hostel |
| 18:55.20 | kergoth | well, lua has no boolean metamethod. if it did, you could change that to your liking.. but.. |
| 18:55.28 | kergoth | chronometer and ant rock |
| 18:55.33 | Kalamadi | Entropism: That was the point :p |
| 18:55.35 | lacindas | antaonist = hostel rewrite |
| 18:55.42 | Xuerian | Entropism: Antagonist is the successor to Hostel |
| 18:55.42 | lacindas | *antagonist |
| 18:55.52 | Ghent | kergoth, 0 is true in LUA? :o |
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| 18:56.02 | Entropism | lol, I figured as much. Most of my guildies loved hostel, but it never worked right for me |
| 18:56.03 | kergoth | yes. |
| 18:56.04 | Xuerian | kergoth: No, I like it not evaluating 0 as nil |
| 18:56.06 | kergoth | 0 is true, as is "" |
| 18:56.16 | Ghent | cncfanatics, my mistake :| |
| 18:56.31 | lacindas | hrm, anyone have any clue how i can change the CandyBars texture on oCD? no / commands for that |
| 18:56.45 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: you there? |
| 18:56.46 | [Ammo] | you can't muahahaha |
| 18:56.49 | kergoth | lacindas: good question, it seemed to rely on the candybar default texture, which seems to suck now |
| 18:56.53 | Funkeh` | =) |
| 18:56.59 | [Ammo] | I nuked the default texture |
| 18:57.00 | Ghent | aye |
| 18:57.02 | kergoth | should add that option |
| 18:57.04 | [Ammo] | since I got too many complaints by morons |
| 18:57.06 | kergoth | ahh |
| 18:57.11 | Ghent | who changed the default texture of CB? |
| 18:57.12 | kergoth | that explains that then |
| 18:57.12 | Ghent | it used to look so pretty |
| 18:57.15 | [Ammo] | so it's now blizards default texture |
| 18:57.23 | Funkeh` | the range check doesnt seem to work for mutatin injection? ive got both set to 200, if i get too far away it doesnt catch infected persons |
| 18:57.35 | [Ammo] | it works fine |
| 18:57.37 | [Ammo] | for me |
| 18:57.42 | Funkeh` | =/ |
| 18:57.43 | [Ammo] | grobbulus that is right? |
| 18:57.47 | Funkeh` | aye |
| 18:57.52 | [Ammo] | worked fine for me |
| 18:57.56 | [Ammo] | but euhm |
| 18:58.01 | Funkeh` | have you tested it form the other side of the room? |
| 18:58.04 | [Ammo] | no |
| 18:58.06 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 18:58.09 | lacindas | kergoth: just found it, seems its just using bar.tga from the Candy lib, i guess just replace that for now |
| 18:58.11 | [Ammo] | but I don't need to be on the other side of the room |
| 18:58.22 | [Ammo] | lacindas: it's not |
| 18:58.27 | Funkeh` | im dead on the other side and im announcer |
| 18:58.31 | [Ammo] | lacindas: I removed the candybar bar.tga |
| 18:58.45 | Funkeh` | broadcaster i mean |
| 18:59.00 | lacindas | Ammo: yes, but theres one in the candybars folder inside oCD |
| 18:59.09 | [Ammo] | not if you update your oCD :p |
| 18:59.16 | Kalamadi | Funkeh`: I think it's triggered via combat log, so you might be OOR |
| 18:59.24 | lacindas | lol k, ill update it again and see :P |
| 18:59.33 | [Ammo] | and that Candybar lib is not used if you use an updated oCD |
| 18:59.49 | [Ammo] | I mean candybar is updated and bar.tga should be deleted, it could still be in the files/ |
| 19:00.01 | [Ammo] | but the default blizzard texture is used |
| 19:00.07 | add\\Leialyn | where can I find the variables I can use for ag_Unitframes when I want to have custom text ? |
| 19:00.15 | lacindas | ok, so even if the bar.tga file is there, its not being used? |
| 19:00.28 | Funkeh` | im guessing injaction isnt synced via addon channel then? |
| 19:00.30 | [Ammo] | indeed, because you probably have another candybar lib |
| 19:00.33 | [Ammo] | indeed it's not sync'd |
| 19:00.33 | Funkeh` | injection* |
| 19:00.34 | lacindas | add\\Leialyn: check out the watchdog custom codes |
| 19:00.37 | [Ammo] | I could add syncing |
| 19:00.42 | add\\Leialyn | where ? |
| 19:00.51 | pastamancer | add\\Leialyn: the WIKI |
| 19:01.02 | add\\Leialyn | uhm ... got a link pls ? |
| 19:01.09 | lacindas | i believe theyre listed in the watchdog docs or the ag_uf wiki |
| 19:01.11 | Funkeh` | would be cool ammo =) although its not no1 priority ;p |
| 19:01.28 | pastamancer | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ag_UnitFrames |
| 19:01.35 | [Ammo] | once you have grob under control a bit no-one dies |
| 19:01.39 | [Ammo] | and it's no problem :) |
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| 19:01.48 | add\\Leialyn | thanks |
| 19:01.57 | Funkeh` | oh ammo |
| 19:02.06 | Funkeh` | hes on farm for our guild, were just having a bad week =/ |
| 19:02.09 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 19:02.12 | [Ammo] | did you transcript him btw? |
| 19:02.15 | lacindas | Ammo: is the "smooth" or "rounded" texture the blizz default? |
| 19:02.19 | [Ammo] | I need the timings between his bomb drop |
| 19:02.30 | Kalamadi | lacindas: Default is blizzard default. |
| 19:02.39 | Funkeh` | should have said ;p |
| 19:02.40 | [Ammo] | lacindas: rounded sounds more like it blizzard default is just UI-Statusbar or something |
| 19:02.42 | lacindas | i just mean the look |
| 19:02.59 | [Ammo] | funkeh`: no big deal shrug |
| 19:03.03 | [Ammo] | he's a loot pinjata anyway |
| 19:03.08 | lacindas | ok, time to hack oCD so i can have pretty textures lol |
| 19:03.11 | add\\Leialyn | ow and btw... when I enable the portraits on ag_UF ... then if I target someone out of range, his portrait is the one of my old target... for adapt, my friend wrote a fix so the normal flat picture is displayed if the target is out of range and the 3d model if its in range |
| 19:03.16 | Funkeh` | aye ^^ |
| 19:03.22 | CIA-17 | 03ghent * r13643 10JackKnife/ (. JackKnife.lua JackKnife.toc): JackKnife: minimally working version -- NEEDS TESTING |
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| 19:05.00 | cncfanatics | i'm done for coding for today, g'night all |
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| 19:05.45 | Ghent | ~seen cladhaire |
| 19:06.10 | purl | cladhaire <n=jnwhiteh@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2h 33m 48s ago, saying: 'a tainted value taints any functinos it touches.. which would break everything.'. |
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| 19:06.26 | Kalamadi | Ghent: What does JackKnife do, anyway? |
| 19:07.10 | Ghent | Kalamadi, opens subcontainers in your inventory for looting |
| 19:07.21 | Ghent | eventually it'll autoloot and auto picklock as well |
| 19:07.28 | Kalamadi | :O |
| 19:09.09 | haste | lacindas: send me the diff afterwards |
| 19:09.36 | |Pixel| | gosh |
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| 19:09.57 | |Pixel| | did people over here see the UI changements in TBC ? |
| 19:10.04 | Kalamadi | No, not at all |
| 19:10.09 | [Ammo] | nope, changes? |
| 19:10.14 | |Pixel| | yeah, lots of |
| 19:10.19 | |Pixel| | -oh-my-god- |
| 19:10.20 | [Ammo] | oh noes |
| 19:10.43 | |Pixel| | developpers simply want to kills any addon that do actions inplace of the user |
| 19:10.52 | krka | OH NOES |
| 19:10.53 | [Ammo] | you don't say? |
| 19:10.54 | |Pixel| | they want to kill decursive, emerceny monitor, necrosis, etc |
| 19:10.55 | [Ammo] | OH NOES |
| 19:11.00 | Kalamadi | Nevermind, that's old news |
| 19:11.07 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 19:11.24 | [Ammo] | Pixel half the discussion on here the last few days were on that subject :p |
| 19:11.34 | Kalamadi | |Pixel|: We've already read it, digested it, and began coding around it |
| 19:11.35 | Elkano | :evil: |
| 19:11.41 | |Pixel| | heh, okay |
| 19:11.50 | |Pixel| | 'coz the exact UI changes got posted that is |
| 19:11.57 | Elkano | we broke it before they codet it ;) |
| 19:12.07 | |Pixel| | ah ha ? |
| 19:12.07 | Kalamadi | |Pixel|: Like how to handle focuses? |
| 19:12.20 | Firedancer | does S&D work for all addons or just Ace2? |
| 19:12.24 | Entropism | So it's not going to be anything major? |
| 19:12.39 | Saroz | What's this custom bar in BW? |
| 19:12.48 | [Ammo] | S&D can work for all |
| 19:12.49 | |Pixel| | stuff like that; well I'm on a EU-FR server/forum so maybe the post took longer to be published |
| 19:13.06 | [Ammo] | saroz read the last post by Tal in the bigwigs forum |
| 19:13.11 | Firedancer | ty ammo |
| 19:13.16 | [Ammo] | it explains it better than I can right now |
| 19:13.44 | Kalamadi | |Pixel|: Guess so :x |
| 19:13.48 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1762.msg51532#msg51532 |
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| 19:14.18 | [Ammo] | starts a 10 second bar that also executes a finished text: Tal: Timer [Pulling! Get ready!] Finished. |
| 19:16.10 | Saroz | ty ammo |
| 19:16.21 | Saroz | slash command doesnt work though :p |
| 19:16.29 | [Ammo] | it should work just fine |
| 19:16.38 | [Ammo] | otherwise that silly macro from Tal wouldn't spam my screen every raid! |
| 19:16.44 | [Ammo] | (he's one of my MTs) |
| 19:16.57 | Saroz | unknown slash command :/ |
| 19:17.01 | [Ammo] | weird |
| 19:17.43 | Saroz | bwlcb works |
| 19:17.53 | [Ammo] | ah bwcb only works if you're promoted :) |
| 19:17.57 | Saroz | ah, found a bug |
| 19:17.57 | Ghent | hrm, someone needs to make the files section automatically make a symlink for the latest version... ie, <modname>-latest.zip that symlinks to the latest file |
| 19:17.58 | Saroz | I am promoted |
| 19:18.30 | [Ammo] | oh |
| 19:18.53 | [Ammo] | Saroz: it should work just fine? |
| 19:18.56 | Saroz | no no |
| 19:18.58 | Saroz | found a bug |
| 19:18.59 | Saroz | comitting |
| 19:19.02 | [Ammo] | what bug? |
| 19:19.03 | _icetrain | the commands are both set to SLASH_BWCB_SHORTHAND1 |
| 19:19.07 | [Ammo] | ah |
| 19:19.08 | Saroz | ye |
| 19:19.08 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 19:19.11 | _icetrain | overriding eachother =) |
| 19:19.27 | _icetrain | copy/paste ftw :) |
| 19:19.28 | kergoth | Ghent: just looted a clam... nothing happens.. if i manually do a /jackknife scan, then it opens it |
| 19:19.42 | vhaarr | Fear my 1337 copy+paste skillz. |
| 19:19.43 | Ghent | yeah |
| 19:19.49 | Ghent | I haven't put in the auto stuff yet |
| 19:19.52 | kergoth | ah |
| 19:19.55 | kergoth | cool then |
| 19:19.58 | kergoth | progress |
| 19:20.01 | Ghent | aye |
| 19:20.03 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 19:20.13 | [Ammo] | comitted yet Saroz? |
| 19:20.18 | Ghent | since you can't "remake" the clams / objects, I didn't want the mod firing off automatically |
| 19:20.19 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r13644 10BigWigs/Extras/CustomBar.lua: BigWigs: Fix slash command /bwcb not working |
| 19:20.20 | Saroz | ye |
| 19:20.22 | [Ammo] | I see |
| 19:20.23 | Saroz | it's hanging |
| 19:20.24 | Saroz | there |
| 19:22.05 | [Ammo] | thanks :) |
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| 19:22.45 | Kalamadi | cncfanatics: The code called you back. |
| 19:22.48 | cncfanatics | today's FB2 changes for those intrested: |
| 19:22.54 | cncfanatics | today's FB2 Changes for those intrested: |
| 19:22.54 | cncfanatics | Finished Button Remapping FlexBar2.Controller:SetButtonID(class, ID) |
| 19:22.54 | cncfanatics | Finished ItemCount viewclass:UpdateItemCount(); |
| 19:22.55 | cncfanatics | renamed viewclass:SetButtonTexture(); to viewclass:UpdateButtonTexture(); |
| 19:22.55 | cncfanatics | Added viewclass:UpdateButton(); which currently calls both viewclass:UpdateButtonTexture(); and viewclass:UpdateItemCount(); |
| 19:23.04 | haste | ... |
| 19:23.09 | cncfanatics | just sending this to devchans :p |
| 19:23.18 | haste | the pastebin is over there --> http://ace.pastey.net |
| 19:23.30 | cncfanatics | btw, i'm probably making the svn repos public soon for those that want to checkout the code |
| 19:23.43 | mjc | moo |
| 19:24.05 | [Ammo] | just dump it on the ace svn :) |
| 19:24.09 | [Ammo] | it's using ace2 isn't it? |
| 19:24.12 | cncfanatics | it is |
| 19:24.35 | cncfanatics | might do that idd hmmm |
| 19:24.37 | cncfanatics | how to get access ? |
| 19:24.44 | FISKER_Q | Do you think when Sloulen says "Public test realm for WoW 2.0.0" he means just the original WoW? |
| 19:24.52 | FISKER_Q | Cause blizzard keeps saying there will be no open beta |
| 19:24.59 | cncfanatics | ofc |
| 19:25.05 | cncfanatics | normal WoW with the 2.0.0 API |
| 19:25.08 | cncfanatics | probably |
| 19:25.34 | Elkano | test the code, not the content |
| 19:25.55 | cncfanatics | [Ammo] how to request ace2 svn access ? |
| 19:26.24 | kergoth | ask cladhaire |
| 19:26.33 | cncfanatics | afk -.- |
| 19:26.39 | Xuerian | cncfanatics: Go here http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 19:26.46 | Funkeh` | woot |
| 19:26.52 | Funkeh` | orange sticky thing! |
| 19:26.54 | Xuerian | Read, sign |
| 19:26.57 | Xuerian | then ask clad. |
| 19:26.57 | [Ammo] | email cladhaire |
| 19:27.03 | [Ammo] | cladhaire@gmail.com or something |
| 19:27.08 | Funkeh` | spinter thing infact! |
| 19:27.10 | Ghent | hrmmm |
| 19:27.17 | Ghent | I bet my boss would like it if I did some work today |
| 19:27.27 | Kalamadi | Feh, work |
| 19:27.29 | Xuerian | [Ammo]: No, it's wowace-svn-requests@googlegroups.com now :) |
| 19:27.39 | [Ammo] | oh ok |
| 19:27.42 | [Ammo] | whatever :) |
| 19:27.53 | Xuerian | Just so tekkub doesn't go postal on you when you mention it next >_> |
| 19:28.23 | kergoth | Ghent: fyi, doesnt seem to open "mithril bound trunk"'s that i fished out of a wreckage |
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| 19:30.48 | Ghent | kergoth, okie, I'll make sure that's in the list |
| 19:30.50 | Ghent | thanks :D |
| 19:32.50 | Entropism | Ammo, how's work going on the MT stuff for ora? |
| 19:33.02 | [Ammo] | fine |
| 19:33.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:33.12 | [Ammo] | if you've followed the forums you'd know |
| 19:33.23 | Entropism | I try, but work is kicking my ass these days |
| 19:33.29 | Entropism | ;) |
| 19:34.18 | cncfanatics | [Ammo] got TBC access ? |
| 19:34.57 | Ghent | does anyone else run into an issue when you're trying to use a sliding scale to change a setting (like the scale of a window) where you can't get it to increment 1%? |
| 19:35.03 | kergoth | vhaarr: i think, if you arent going to track individual slot by slot in cg, you should at least consider the fact that sets can stack. as it stands today, CG is essentially useless if you have any sets which dont cover all the slots. invariably end up fighting with mount shit still on |
| 19:35.25 | kergoth | imo, should either fix that issue, or remove the ability to have partial sets at all |
| 19:35.36 | Entropism | yeah Ghent, quite annoying =( |
| 19:35.37 | Tem | if Ammo had TBC access, he couldn't tell you |
| 19:36.02 | Kalamadi | Tem: We're all friends here <3 |
| 19:36.08 | Ghent | Entropism, very |
| 19:36.18 | Tem | NDA doesn't care about friends |
| 19:36.20 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: no |
| 19:36.23 | Tem | they are quite explicit, too |
| 19:36.26 | [Ammo] | well I don't :) |
| 19:36.33 | Ghent | ammo's lying! |
| 19:36.38 | Ghent | I can see it in his eyes. |
| 19:36.41 | [Ammo] | and since I don't have access I don't have an NDA signed :) |
| 19:36.43 | cncfanatics | sure u can see his eyes at all |
| 19:36.48 | Ghent | I can :( |
| 19:36.56 | Ghent | see, right there.... ":)" |
| 19:37.02 | Ghent | beady little eyes too! |
| 19:38.38 | Entropism | So what's this about the Discord guy working for blizzard? |
| 19:38.53 | Kalamadi | Ugh. That doesn't bode well |
| 19:38.56 | cncfanatics | huh , what u talking about ? -.- |
| 19:39.10 | Xuerian | ... |
| 19:39.11 | Entropism | yeah, this is what I've heard |
| 19:39.15 | Xuerian | Where? |
| 19:39.27 | Entropism | let me check, a guildie was going on & on about it |
| 19:39.54 | cncfanatics | Did he just get a job at blizz or has he been working for em for a long time ? |
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| 19:40.50 | vhaarr | kergoth: CG_Mount could take care of it. |
| 19:42.02 | kergoth | lets start a pool. how long will it take until the next CG_ plugin gets bit by the same problem |
| 19:42.07 | kergoth | i'm betting it wont be long. |
| 19:42.27 | kergoth | brb |
| 19:42.47 | cncfanatics | Entropism, found it ? |
| 19:44.44 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13645 10BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows/BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows.Lua: BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows: Don't print about strategy broadcasts if you're already set to the broadcasted strategy. |
| 19:44.56 | Entropism | CNC, no... my guildie was talking out his ass |
| 19:45.11 | Entropism | if he is, I cant find it |
| 19:45.13 | cncfanatics | thought so :) |
| 19:45.28 | Entropism | yeesh, I thought we'd need 256MB just for UI if it was true ;) |
| 19:45.29 | cncfanatics | well, then i'm leaving again, was just waiting for that answer |
| 19:45.36 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 19:45.56 | cncfanatics | discord takes even more mem then fb, its unbelieveable |
| 19:46.14 | cncfanatics | anyway, i need to get away from this computerscreen, cya :p |
| 19:46.16 | *** part/#wowace cncfanatics (n=evolve@165.73-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 19:46.37 | Entropism | I dropped 9MB when I ditched DAB for bongos |
| 19:49.33 | Ghent | I want to try switching from Bongos to Bartender, but I hear (read) that bartender has a bug where there's a massive jump in memory growth when bars switch for like stances and such |
| 19:49.42 | Ghent | ie, if I stealth as a rogue and it swaps to my stealth bar |
| 19:50.03 | Entropism | I tried bartender for like 10 minutes. I dont think I was sober enough to work well with it |
| 19:50.53 | Xuerian | bartender is just as functional as bongos (Ok, not quite), and can look prettier, but bongos is much more user-friendly |
| 19:50.54 | Entropism | Ghent, do you notice in bongos that it doesnt update buttons very fast? Like I'll swap stuff in itemrack, and my autoattack icon stays the same (showing the old weapon's icon) |
| 19:51.27 | Ghent | hrm, I never really paid attention honestly |
| 19:52.02 | Ghent | I like bongos, I wanted to try bartender simply because I wanted to be strictly ace |
| 19:52.26 | Ghent | plus maia's screenshot looks awesome :o |
| 19:52.31 | Ghent | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.36 | Entropism | which screen? |
| 19:52.50 | Ghent | the one near the top of the thread with the alpha blended borders, etc |
| 19:53.26 | Ghent | 2nd post |
| 19:53.38 | Ghent | I wonder how to get mine to look like that |
| 19:53.55 | lacindas | get BT2_dreamlayout |
| 19:54.20 | Ghent | I was hoping so, since I see maia's name on that one |
| 19:54.24 | Ghent | haven't gotten around to trying it |
| 19:54.36 | Entropism | yeah, the way my bars are set up, I couldnt use that setup |
| 19:54.42 | Entropism | looks pretty though |
| 19:55.52 | Ghent | how are your bars set up? |
| 19:55.53 | Entropism | Same thing with the round buttons. Gorgeous but not practical |
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| 19:55.59 | Entropism | I'll get you a screen |
| 19:56.29 | Xuerian | Entropism: Round buttons are nice if you only have one or two bars on-screen |
| 19:56.33 | Ghent | here's my UI |
| 19:56.34 | Ghent | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4282 |
| 19:57.20 | Entropism | http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/5200/2005811498598163093_rs.jpg |
| 19:57.30 | CIA-17 | 03hshh * r13646 10EQCompare/EQCompare.lua: |
| 19:57.30 | CIA-17 | EQCompare: |
| 19:57.30 | CIA-17 | - fix compare tooltip display out of screen |
| 19:58.49 | Ghent | I've always wondered how people get those nice frames around their button groups |
| 19:59.25 | Entropism | discord art =( |
| 19:59.39 | Entropism | it's fairly low mem compared to the other stuff though. 2MB total |
| 19:59.54 | Ghent | ah |
| 20:03.02 | snurre- | hm, got both wristguards of vengeance and legplates of carnage this run <3 |
| 20:04.26 | Entropism | Snurre, I still hate you =p |
| 20:04.37 | Entropism | especially now =) |
| 20:06.03 | Entropism | Snurre... honest opinion: edgemasters with deathbringer (hopefully we can get noth to drop that axe first kill) |
| 20:06.17 | Entropism | or generals gloves with claw of the black drake |
| 20:06.27 | Saroz | we got 1000000000000000 warrior/rogue T3, it's insane |
| 20:07.00 | Entropism | Saroz, how does your guild handle that? Our rogues have all the tier 3, the warriors have no DKP to spend |
| 20:07.21 | Entropism | so our MT has 2 pieces, but EVERY rogues has 2-4 |
| 20:07.23 | Saroz | we gave priority to MT1 and MT2 |
| 20:07.28 | Saroz | was a good choice |
| 20:07.44 | Saroz | rogues was fine with it, as long as it was only MT1 and 2, and they paid a fair amount of DKP for it |
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| 20:07.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 20:08.00 | Saroz | our MT has 6 pieces atm |
| 20:08.06 | Saroz | MT2 has 5 I think |
| 20:08.10 | Entropism | yeah... not going to happen for us =( Our rogue class lead is being a selfish ass. 4 pieces, and he's ditching his rogue for a pally come expansion |
| 20:08.23 | Saroz | we don't care so much about loot in NN |
| 20:08.26 | Saroz | at least no loot drama yet |
| 20:08.29 | Saroz | it's nice |
| 20:08.45 | leech2k | our rogues passed on all t3 until 4 tanks were geared for 4 horsemen :-) |
| 20:08.53 | Plorkyeran | We just gave dps people priority on tier 2.5 and let the fact that they spent all thier dkp on that result in tanks getting tier 3 |
| 20:08.53 | Saroz | you need more than 4 :p |
| 20:09.06 | Entropism | Yeah, too much loot drama here... rogues witht he tier 3, which I dont even WANT, I'm brought for DPS/offtanking |
| 20:09.07 | Saroz | 6+ |
| 20:09.07 | leech2k | ya but 4 with the set bonuses should be ok |
| 20:09.32 | Entropism | and 3 hunters have already made it known they're bidding on the first hatchets of sundered bone (we use set DKP) |
| 20:09.43 | Jagobah | Yeah... withus all the rogues got dibs on Tier 3 and all the warriors wanted 2.5 |
| 20:09.58 | Saroz | hrm |
| 20:10.01 | Saroz | guess we're special then |
| 20:10.12 | Jagobah | No one wants to tank, they have more fun doing DPS :( |
| 20:10.18 | Saroz | Having MT1 and 2 in as much T3 as possible will help everyone |
| 20:10.22 | Saroz | easier boss kills |
| 20:10.25 | Saroz | faster clears |
| 20:10.28 | Saroz | less wipes |
| 20:10.44 | Entropism | Jag, not us. I'm our only DPS warr. Everyone else is prot. And I made sure I have 8/8 wrath so I can fill in when needed |
| 20:10.57 | Saroz | we have 2 prot tanks |
| 20:10.59 | Jagobah | But at the expense of their DPS and DKP |
| 20:11.08 | Saroz | 1 was imba fury warrior, who turned prot for NN |
| 20:11.29 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13647 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Anubrekhan.lua: BigWigs: Anubrekhan: The timers are estimates, so use ~. |
| 20:11.33 | Jagobah | Also putting all your tank gear in one or two people will screw you over when they leave your guild |
| 20:11.44 | Saroz | make sure they dont |
| 20:11.44 | *** join/#wowace maiaAFK (n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 20:11.55 | Ghent | wb maia |
| 20:11.56 | Saroz | MT1 is guild leader, MT2 has been here since day 1 :) |
| 20:12.19 | Jagobah | Well not much you can do about that, except threaten them? |
| 20:12.43 | Jagobah | Just because they're guild leader or senior members doesn't mean they won't be tempted to transfer off |
| 20:12.44 | Saroz | well if you can't depend on your MT1 then you are screwed |
| 20:12.56 | Saroz | it does here :) |
| 20:13.00 | Saroz | man we have it good I guess |
| 20:13.07 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/projects/wow/changeset/11898 if anyone else uses ocd. heh |
| 20:13.09 | Saroz | never realised |
| 20:13.12 | maiaAFK | whats the nickserv command to kill the person who's online with my name? I'm being told that my name (which is registered) is already in use |
| 20:13.25 | gxam | ghost |
| 20:13.28 | Entropism | lol, the only reason our tanks are contemplating leaving is because of the rogues. |
| 20:13.41 | lacindas | kergoth: damn u, ive been coding that the last however long :P |
| 20:14.05 | Saroz | Entropism, fix it |
| 20:14.06 | Saroz | :) |
| 20:14.12 | Entropism | wish I could =p |
| 20:14.48 | Entropism | we have a rogue class lead who refuses to farm for pots, does mediocre DPS for a BWL guild, and thinks he deserves everything |
| 20:14.57 | Saroz | gkick |
| 20:14.58 | Saroz | simple |
| 20:15.05 | Entropism | it'll never happen |
| 20:15.09 | mjc | gkick indeed |
| 20:15.17 | Saroz | how far are you in naxx |
| 20:15.24 | Saroz | we don't have class leaders |
| 20:15.32 | Jagobah | Out of 7 warriors we only have one or two that actually like tanking :( |
| 20:15.54 | Saroz | all our warriors tank when asked |
| 20:15.54 | Xuerian | Saroz: Sounds like a guild I'd enjoy being in :P |
| 20:15.57 | Entropism | lol Jag, out of 6, I'm the only DPSer =/ |
| 20:15.58 | Jagobah | Only 1 warrior in 4/9 and lots and lots of rogues with 4/9 |
| 20:16.22 | Entropism | seriously Saroz... PLEASE tell me you're US Horde and recruiting ;) |
| 20:16.24 | Jagobah | Normally it would cause problems |
| 20:16.27 | Saroz | EU alliance |
| 20:16.31 | Jagobah | But these warriors are the best DPSers in the guild |
| 20:16.33 | Saroz | BOK man |
| 20:16.46 | Saroz | mages and rogues own NN tbh |
| 20:16.50 | Saroz | and fury warriors |
| 20:17.10 | Saroz | fire mages mean a lot suddenly |
| 20:19.17 | Entropism | UGH...this speaks volumes of my server: |
| 20:19.23 | Groggles | we gave almost all t3 to warriors except the gloves for a few months... |
| 20:19.26 | Entropism | 350 pages alliance side |
| 20:19.31 | Entropism | 64 hordeside |
| 20:19.44 | Entropism | using auctioneer scans |
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| 20:23.10 | mjc | NN? |
| 20:26.42 | Industrial | ~WTF NN |
| 20:26.51 | Industrial | nighty night!! |
| 20:27.46 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.119) |
| 20:27.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 20:27.55 | ckknight | lol, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3733813548895662946&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=undefined |
| 20:27.57 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:28.16 | mjc | hello hawaiian ace master |
| 20:28.37 | ckknight | I'm not Hawaiian |
| 20:28.44 | ckknight | I just live in Hawaii |
| 20:28.52 | mjc | I'm not floridian, I just live in florida |
| 20:28.59 | Xuerian | Heya ckknight :p |
| 20:29.07 | mjc | you're not of hawaiian descent, you mean |
| 20:29.11 | mjc | I didn't say you were! |
| 20:29.42 | ckknight | well, Hawaiians are an actual race of people |
| 20:29.59 | ckknight | so it's a bit sketchy |
| 20:31.28 | chrisa | bullocks, they're as real as eskimos and libertarians |
| 20:35.26 | Ghent | hrm, if I wanted to make a profile var that is a single number that can be anything from 1-100, what sort of AceOption table would be best to use? |
| 20:35.27 | *** join/#wowace benjdr_ (n=ben@host86-128-110-55.range86-128.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:35.33 | mjc | ckknight: heh |
| 20:35.34 | benjdr_ | any decent ace2 damage metres? |
| 20:35.44 | mjc | benjdr_: epgauge is a work in progress |
| 20:36.01 | benjdr_ | thanks |
| 20:36.02 | Astronot | regular damagemeters is pretty light |
| 20:36.08 | benjdr_ | ill check it out |
| 20:36.13 | benjdr_ | ya i had damangemeters |
| 20:36.22 | mjc | Astronot: lies |
| 20:36.24 | benjdr_ | but am pretty ace2 elitest now |
| 20:36.33 | Ghent | I don't wanna use range because I don't really want a range, I just want a single digit |
| 20:36.52 | Ghent | hrm, text I guess |
| 20:36.56 | mjc | Ghent: do you want minimum and maximum values? |
| 20:37.04 | mjc | Ghent: or can i put 2^64 in there |
| 20:37.04 | Ghent | no |
| 20:37.08 | Ghent | just a single value |
| 20:37.17 | mjc | so I can put 99999999999999999999999 in? |
| 20:37.30 | Astronot | I am as well |
| 20:37.32 | Ghent | before my sanity checking, sure :p |
| 20:37.45 | Astronot | sw stats is a big hog |
| 20:37.46 | mjc | Ghent: your aceoptions table should be doing the checking for you |
| 20:37.52 | mjc | at least, |
| 20:38.01 | mjc | ckknight's code does it that way |
| 20:38.01 | Ghent | mjc, there doesn't seem to be one that does single values |
| 20:38.05 | mjc | prove me wrong :) |
| 20:38.16 | mjc | Ghent: range |
| 20:38.20 | benjdr_ | whats the auctioneer ace2 equivelant called? |
| 20:38.22 | mjc | Ghent: between X and Y |
| 20:38.27 | mjc | benjdr_: it's ace1 |
| 20:38.30 | mjc | KC_Items |
| 20:38.31 | Ghent | ben: KC_Items |
| 20:38.35 | benjdr_ | getting converted? |
| 20:38.36 | Astronot | this is ace2 elitist > http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5399 |
| 20:38.42 | Ghent | mjc, ah, okay |
| 20:38.53 | Astronot | kc_items is a hog too, because of it's db |
| 20:39.09 | mjc | Astronot: hardly a hog compared to auctioneer |
| 20:39.10 | Ghent | memory use isn't as important as memory growth over time |
| 20:39.16 | Astronot | true |
| 20:39.28 | mjc | Astronot: I wrote a script to import auctioneer -> KC_Items, shed over 50MB |
| 20:39.32 | mjc | seriously |
| 20:39.36 | Astronot | nice |
| 20:39.36 | Ghent | :O |
| 20:39.38 | mjc | ask kergoth about his auctioneer data |
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| 20:39.41 | Ghent | where's this script at, mjc? |
| 20:39.54 | mjc | Ghent: personal use only but there is a mod that does the same thing |
| 20:40.00 | mjc | sec |
| 20:40.01 | Ghent | hrmmm |
| 20:40.01 | mjc | at work |
| 20:40.03 | Ghent | kk |
| 20:40.05 | Ghent | thanks |
| 20:40.16 | benjdr_ | mjc any chance of having that script? |
| 20:41.00 | Ghent | ben, did you read what he just said to me? :p |
| 20:41.08 | benjdr_ | sorry |
| 20:41.24 | Ghent | mjc, I see how range fits now, thank you for making me re-read it :D |
| 20:41.32 | mjc | Ghent: yep |
| 20:42.49 | lacindas | theres an auctioneer->KCI mod? |
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| 20:43.01 | Moondrake[G5] | evening all |
| 20:43.06 | lacindas | evenin |
| 20:43.09 | mjc | sorry, |
| 20:43.11 | mjc | I was mistaken |
| 20:43.19 | mjc | it's auctioneer & kc_items -> itemsync |
| 20:43.50 | lacindas | ahh that 1 ive seen, but IS stinks too lol |
| 20:44.01 | Moondrake[G5] | little praid question, i saw it's got DewDrop now, how do i bring the menu up (apart from doing it over ModMenuTuFu) |
| 20:45.10 | lacindas | deucecommander? |
| 20:45.33 | lacindas | i dont see a menu option in the / commands, maybe right-clicking on a raid-frame? |
| 20:46.01 | Ghent | I stopped using LootLink and started using ItemSync a long time ago |
| 20:46.15 | Ghent | not sure which is even better anymore |
| 20:46.32 | Ghent | I've started using G-Link now but it doesn't maintain a database |
| 20:46.34 | mjc | kc_items has a lootlink feature. |
| 20:46.43 | Moondrake[G5] | lacindas: nope that brings up normal rightclick menu |
| 20:46.51 | mjc | uses less memory than LL, too :P |
| 20:47.09 | Ghent | well, I want to convert to KC, but I don't want to lose all my data from auctioneer, etc |
| 20:47.36 | benjdr_ | nor me...what converts the database? |
| 20:47.45 | lacindas | yeah, ild like to convert my lootlink/auctioneer stuff to kci, thatld be sweet |
| 20:48.38 | lacindas | granted im using kci anyways, but itld be nice to convert hehe |
| 20:49.55 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r13648 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Change of logic |
| 20:50.17 | mjc | I'm definitely never touching auctioneer's savedvar again |
| 20:50.25 | mjc | fucking satan |
| 20:50.48 | mjc | I dare you to dump your WTF and scan just your neutral AH, then open it in notepad |
| 20:51.06 | lacindas | eek, no way lol |
| 20:51.34 | Astronot | Moondrake[G5]: If I remember correctly, dewdrop is in praid but access to the menu isn't implemented yet |
| 20:51.35 | Ghent | lol |
| 20:51.38 | Ghent | ah crud |
| 20:51.55 | Ghent | WoW doesn't have a native function to return # of inventory slots free |
| 20:52.14 | Ghent | goofy bastards. |
| 20:52.38 | Tekkub | gack... |
| 20:52.53 | Tekkub | so I get my tatto and the guy thinks I'm odd cause I didn't bleed at all |
| 20:53.12 | Tekkub | and now I pop a damn zit on my back and it's gushing blood >< |
| 20:53.19 | *** join/#wowace SH|Shabador (n=Shabador@ti400720a080-5027.bb.online.no) |
| 20:53.31 | Tekkub | *splurt splurt* |
| 20:53.57 | Kalamadi | ~seen maia |
| 20:54.03 | purl | maia is currently on #wowace, last said: 'Mikk: ping'. |
| 20:54.07 | Xuerian | poor tekkub :P |
| 20:54.19 | kergoth | i wish i could drop auctioneer |
| 20:54.25 | Tekkub | I'm gettin lightheaded from loss of blood! |
| 20:54.38 | Ghent | haha tek :P |
| 20:54.58 | kergoth | hahah |
| 20:55.07 | kergoth | what was the tattoo? |
| 20:55.07 | mjc | Ghent: for i=0,4 do x = x + GetContainerNumSlots(x) end |
| 20:55.22 | Tekkub | oh you didn't see? |
| 20:55.29 | Ghent | I didn't see |
| 20:55.30 | Ghent | :o |
| 20:55.42 | Ghent | mjc, thanks man |
| 20:55.45 | Ghent | you're my angel today |
| 20:55.50 | mjc | my bad |
| 20:55.55 | mjc | Ghent: for i=0,4 do x = x + GetContainerNumSlots(i) end |
| 20:56.16 | Tekkub | http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bearpawtx2.jpg |
| 20:56.58 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 20:57.01 | mjc | interesting hair, but cute. |
| 20:57.24 | Tekkub | clad, the bitch, pointed out that it's the MotW icon |
| 20:57.30 | kergoth | i only have one tattoo to date, planning on doing most of my back though |
| 20:57.31 | kergoth | hahah |
| 20:57.48 | Tekkub | yea I already want another... just not for a bit :) |
| 20:58.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:58.10 | kergoth | takes ages to heal |
| 20:58.24 | Tekkub | yea I figgered it would |
| 20:59.19 | mjc | kergoth: you're the auctioneer freak, hack the itemsync importer to import to KC_I instead |
| 20:59.23 | mjc | way out of my league |
| 20:59.37 | mjc | I still ahve to fix ohnoes bugs |
| 20:59.47 | kergoth | but then i'd have to learn how auctioneer's SV is layed out |
| 20:59.49 | kergoth | and ignorance is bliss |
| 20:59.56 | mjc | kergoth: no |
| 21:00.06 | mjc | kergoth: just modify the existing app to write to KCI |
| 21:00.12 | mjc | it already does the import part just writes to iS |
| 21:00.36 | kergoth | ahh cool |
| 21:00.36 | mjc | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1788 |
| 21:00.36 | mjc | doh |
| 21:00.38 | mjc | nevermind |
| 21:00.40 | mjc | it only does lootlink data |
| 21:00.50 | Ghent | tek, how long did it take to ink that? |
| 21:01.00 | benjdr_ | hmm does KC_items do auction searching? |
| 21:01.05 | Tekkub | an hour |
| 21:01.07 | mjc | benjdr_: no |
| 21:01.11 | mjc | benjdr_: price storing only |
| 21:01.19 | Ghent | tek, not bad |
| 21:01.20 | mjc | benjdr_: searching is bloat |
| 21:01.20 | Tekkub | granted I took a 10min break about 1/3 in |
| 21:01.26 | Kalamadi | Okay, it's 5 PM |
| 21:01.28 | Tekkub | cause I almost passed out sitting up |
| 21:01.28 | Kalamadi | Time for bed |
| 21:01.41 | benjdr_ | so what is the method os finding cheap auctions :) |
| 21:01.50 | benjdr_ | is* |
| 21:02.36 | benjdr_ | hm how do you show vender sell prices for items |
| 21:02.37 | benjdr_ | i cant do it |
| 21:03.51 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.10 | Xuerian | Ghent, does jackknife pop open the loot window when it does it's thing? |
| 21:04.24 | Ghent | it's supposed to :P |
| 21:04.31 | Xuerian | Hm |
| 21:04.33 | Ghent | eventually it'll autoloot as well |
| 21:04.38 | sbu | hm Saroz - how can i change sraidframes tooltip? i tried to change some code but it didnt work :/ |
| 21:04.46 | Saroz | use the code luke |
| 21:04.56 | Ghent | woot |
| 21:04.59 | Ghent | boss just left |
| 21:05.02 | Ghent | time to go home. |
| 21:05.05 | Xuerian | lol. |
| 21:05.50 | Xuerian | Ghent: Once you get it to auto-loot, you can make it skip showing at all if xloot is enabled, if XLoot then XLoot.swiftlooting = true end beforehand :) |
| 21:06.03 | Ghent | oooooo |
| 21:06.43 | Ghent | bbl :) |
| 21:09.09 | CIA-17 | 03leech * r13649 10dgks/ (23 files in 9 dirs): Initial Import. |
| 21:09.42 | Tekkub | right, that's it... sick of this !!!Libs thing, making a "proper" external setup that'll grab all the standalones for people |
| 21:09.43 | Xuerian | dgks? |
| 21:09.55 | Tekkub | then they can download em with WinAceUpdater :) |
| 21:09.56 | mjc | leech2k: what in the? |
| 21:10.06 | leech2k | dg Killshot :-) |
| 21:10.07 | Tekkub | actually, fuck the externals, I'll just make the empty folders |
| 21:10.18 | sbu | Saroz: yah - i tried ;p |
| 21:10.29 | kergoth | mjc: you know whatd be cool, is if you could enable an option in kci to retain the previous auction scan details in ram for subsequent searches for deals, but if that previous scan's details was in ram only, not SV. so to search for deals again, you'd have to rescan, then search. a nd have an option to purge that data on command when you're done with it. |
| 21:10.35 | leech2k | externals didn't import correctly though :-() |
| 21:10.36 | mjc | Tekkub: I want all the standalones like that :( |
| 21:10.46 | Tekkub | yea mjc, I'm gonna do it :) |
| 21:10.47 | kergoth | s/again/again after a relog or reload/ |
| 21:10.56 | mjc | SPAM |
| 21:11.03 | kergoth | ~fishslap pu |
| 21:11.05 | purl | ACTION slaps pu up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:11.05 | kergoth | ~fishslap purl |
| 21:11.08 | purl | ACTION slaps purl up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:11.09 | Tekkub | cause then thi standalones can be pushed to LoD so only the ones you need are loaded |
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| 21:11.37 | mjc | Tekkub: make kergoth integrate it into svkco.py |
| 21:11.50 | kergoth | mjc is teh devil |
| 21:11.58 | sbu | Saroz: i guess its GameTooltip, but changing the "SetOwner" line - well - doesnt work ;p |
| 21:12.08 | andreasg | could anyone with access to US forums please forward this post |
| 21:12.09 | andreasg | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=53255509&sid=1 |
| 21:12.11 | Saroz | *shrug* |
| 21:12.12 | mjc | kergoth: yes |
| 21:13.28 | Tekkub | nani? |
| 21:13.57 | vhaarr | andreasg: ckk already posted about that |
| 21:14.01 | vhaarr | andreasg: on the US forum |
| 21:14.16 | andreasg | vhaarr: he did? Can I see it / did he get a response? |
| 21:14.23 | andreasg | what exactly did he ask about? |
| 21:14.28 | vhaarr | andreasg: I'd have to search for it as well |
| 21:14.38 | kergoth | mjc: itd be quite easy to integrate, but we'd have to have .toc parsing in there, which is more wow specific than i want svkco to get. will have to make an addonco |
| 21:14.42 | vhaarr | andreasg: it's in the 2.0.0 changes thread |
| 21:14.43 | andreasg | I would really, really like an answer to that post |
| 21:15.28 | andreasg | what name do ckk have on the wow forums, so I can search? |
| 21:15.42 | vhaarr | ckknight, I believe |
| 21:17.23 | leech2k | Sorry about spam. Had to do a quick cleanup. |
| 21:17.27 | vhaarr | andreasg: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&postId=320856049&sid=1#556 |
| 21:17.33 | vhaarr | I had it in my browser history. |
| 21:17.43 | CIA-17 | 03leech * r13650 10dgks/libs/ (7 files in 7 dirs): dgks: Fixed externals. |
| 21:17.47 | andreasg | thanks |
| 21:18.40 | andreasg | Don't think slouken responded to it? |
| 21:19.16 | mjc | kergoth: sexy |
| 21:19.43 | mjc | kergoth: it'd be really nice if we could make a checkout hook or something to do the externals also |
| 21:19.46 | mjc | nots ure how that'd work |
| 21:21.24 | andreasg | I think 2.0.0 is going to break my addon |
| 21:21.28 | andreasg | pretty hard |
| 21:21.32 | mjc | andreasg: ..? |
| 21:21.48 | leech2k | Sounds like it might break a lot of addons. |
| 21:21.49 | andreasg | and I'm not even trying to move my frames dynamically or automate things |
| 21:21.51 | Azurewrath | leech2k: what's dgks? :) |
| 21:21.55 | Tekkub | 2.0.0 is gonna break the majority of addons |
| 21:22.03 | leech2k | dg Killshot Notifier |
| 21:22.07 | Tekkub | at least most of them will be fixable |
| 21:22.14 | andreasg | not just the API change, but the design |
| 21:22.27 | Tekkub | what mod? |
| 21:22.33 | andreasg | ag_unitframes |
| 21:22.41 | Tekkub | you'll be fine |
| 21:22.41 | andreasg | maybe my actionbar too |
| 21:22.43 | leech2k | dgks will be perfect for arena :-) |
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| 21:23.09 | andreasg | will UseAction(id) still work? |
| 21:23.34 | Tekkub | I think you'll beforced into keybindings to cast spells |
| 21:23.52 | andreasg | I guess, so my action bar addon is going to break |
| 21:24.08 | Tekkub | there's gonna be an explosion of mods that have keybindings I think |
| 21:24.20 | andreasg | it already uses keybindings:( |
| 21:24.30 | andreasg | brb |
| 21:24.38 | Cartas | Ahh |
| 21:24.52 | andreasg | I guess I just have to wait and see, but I'd like to be able to fix my addons before the game starts |
| 21:25.01 | andreasg | I'd like to be able to play and level, not fix addons for weeks |
| 21:25.20 | leech2k | you might have a chance if they do an open bets |
| 21:25.22 | leech2k | beta* |
| 21:25.22 | Pucmel | beta will be without NDA |
| 21:25.25 | Pucmel | i guess |
| 21:25.36 | [FH]Birdemani | it shouldnt have a NDA |
| 21:26.13 | [FH]Birdemani | I dont understan why they couldnt disable mods like decursive but still allow dynamic windows in combat |
| 21:26.17 | [FH]Birdemani | there has to be a way to do both |
| 21:26.20 | andreasg | they *might* do an open beta, but they *might* not too. So some lamer who won a lot of level 19 bgs on a test server gets to screw around, but I can't fix the addons I am developing. |
| 21:26.29 | leech2k | I am going to miss Squishy |
| 21:26.52 | andreasg | [FH]Birdemani: no, because else the UI could just move the most damaged frame to be under the cursor all the time |
| 21:26.52 | [FH]Birdemani | There are a few of us in here that will get beta keys that can test for the devs that wont be in there |
| 21:27.05 | andreasg | yeah, I hope so |
| 21:27.12 | Tekkub | yup, a dev testserver would be nice... hell could even make it so you can't go to the new areas |
| 21:27.16 | Elkano | andreasg, think about a decurse-button for each player on the same position where only those for players that need decursing are shown |
| 21:27.17 | Tekkub | so that people won't play there |
| 21:27.24 | sbu | Saroz: hmm - got it ;p |
| 21:28.21 | andreasg | Elkano: that's no different from binding dispel to mouse4 and having a debuff indicator on frames, like most unit frames can do together with clique |
| 21:28.27 | andreasg | I do that already now, I don't use decursive/detox |
| 21:28.31 | andreasg | I don't raid, I pvp |
| 21:28.38 | Pucmel | it is rly nice .. perfectraid + clique |
| 21:28.40 | Pucmel | to dispell ppl |
| 21:28.42 | andreasg | yes |
| 21:28.46 | Elkano | well, you would only have to click the same position |
| 21:29.25 | Pucmel | mass curse encounters suck anyway :( i hope there will be any |
| 21:29.56 | Pucmel | ehm add some words to my sentence .. grammar police |
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| 21:31.08 | Xuerian | Didn't someone mention them having the test realms open with the current data, running on the 2.0 server/client? |
| 21:31.12 | Xuerian | Well, not now |
| 21:31.16 | Xuerian | but before release? |
| 21:34.11 | Greywind | yes they will |
| 21:34.25 | Moondrake[G5] | Xuerian: did you drop the growup on Xloot Monitor or am i blind as always? |
| 21:34.42 | Greywind | but i wonder how much time they are gonna give us to fix our addons? |
| 21:34.55 | Greywind | if its just a week that would suck |
| 21:35.06 | mjc | 2.0.0 is not a forced upgrade |
| 21:35.20 | mjc | is it? |
| 21:35.23 | Greywind | yes |
| 21:35.30 | mjc | just no TBC ? |
| 21:35.34 | Greywind | aye |
| 21:35.38 | mjc | ugh |
| 21:35.42 | mjc | fu |
| 21:35.49 | mjc | ck |
| 21:36.03 | Greywind | even if you dont get the expanison the changes are still coming to the original client |
| 21:36.04 | Xuerian | Moondrake[G5]: No, it's completely done by SetPoint arguments now. Right click anchor, Positioning. Grow up is Anchor bottomleft to Topleft, grow down is anchor topleft to bottomleft |
| 21:36.44 | Xuerian | This way you can have it grow any direction you so desire :) |
| 21:37.10 | Moondrake[G5] | thx, some guildie asked me, i am still using an older version.... |
| 21:37.26 | Xuerian | It might take a little explaining on what the points mean, tried to make it self-explanitory |
| 21:37.39 | Xuerian | Get the newer one though :P |
| 21:38.45 | Moondrake[G5] | i will, i was online to check some addons and update until all duildies were askeing questions about ace addons^^ |
| 21:38.55 | Moondrake[G5] | *guildies |
| 21:39.43 | Xuerian | Hehe, nice =D. There's both new XLoot and Monitor versions up if the latest you have still uses Up and Down. If you get some fun action shots, stick them in the thread, I'll need some for release sites :) |
| 21:39.50 | Moondrake[G5] | i only told one guy that praid config can now be done via dewdrop and then 10 other ppl were asking to get praid^^ |
| 21:40.24 | Xuerian | Ooh, it can? o_0 |
| 21:40.28 | Xuerian | Hm.. have to update that myself |
| 21:40.31 | Moondrake[G5] | they are all afraif of commands^^ |
| 21:40.35 | Xuerian | lol |
| 21:40.38 | mjc | deucecommander. |
| 21:40.58 | Xuerian | mjc: Dewdrop can't handle that many commands, it locks to a halt at level 3 on me :( |
| 21:41.02 | Moondrake[G5] | Xuerian: Dewdrop was added, but apart from Deucecommander or Modmenu i can't open config |
| 21:41.20 | Xuerian | Moondrake[G5]: Oh. Clad didn't add a /praid options or something? |
| 21:41.27 | Moondrake[G5] | nah |
| 21:41.32 | Xuerian | o_0 |
| 21:41.45 | Moondrake[G5] | xuerian: what do you mean by fun action shots?^^ |
| 21:41.50 | Xuerian | lol |
| 21:42.01 | Xuerian | Either XLoot or Monitor in use |
| 21:42.25 | Moondrake[G5] | placing lootmonitor in Nefarians mouth so it seems he's eating it?^^ |
| 21:42.29 | Xuerian | lol |
| 21:42.33 | Xuerian | That works =D |
| 21:42.40 | Moondrake[G5] | :D |
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| 21:44.46 | Xuerian | welcome back Ghent :P |
| 21:44.55 | Ghent | thank you :P |
| 21:46.00 | Tekkub | I FUCKING WIN! |
| 21:46.08 | Tekkub | .... |
| 21:46.11 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 21:46.12 | Tekkub | ..... wait for it |
| 21:46.34 | Tekkub | *kicks TortoiseSVN* |
| 21:46.42 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13651 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (30 files in 29 dirs): Standalone Libraries - A package of empty folders to be used with WinAceUpdater to install all libraries needed, without using externals or an all-in-one design |
| 21:46.51 | Xuerian | =O |
| 21:46.51 | Tekkub | for empty folders that took it's sweet ass time |
| 21:46.54 | Xuerian | You used !!! ! |
| 21:46.58 | Xuerian | EXILE |
| 21:47.00 | Xuerian | TREASON |
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| 21:47.09 | Tekkub | yes, so that it's up there with !!!Libs and people will see it |
| 21:47.12 | Xuerian | :P |
| 21:47.34 | Tekkub | I now officially ask that !!!Libs be removed by it's author |
| 21:47.36 | ShadoxLX | Is there a certain port i need forwarded to use the svn? I was able to use the svn w/ tortoise from a different location but not at this one |
| 21:47.37 | DrDre | isnt a main reason of using !!! to make sure its loaded first? lol |
| 21:48.06 | Tekkub | ShadoxLX, I hear certain virus scaners and firewalls don't like SVN |
| 21:48.09 | Moondrake[G5] | tekkub: winaceupdater yours? |
| 21:48.18 | Tekkub | no DrDre, that doesn't work consistantly |
| 21:48.27 | Tekkub | no WAU is PP's |
| 21:48.27 | DrDre | ah |
| 21:48.38 | ShadoxLX | heard anything about Kaspersky? Usually it tells me if anything is conflicting |
| 21:48.40 | DrDre | the !!! addons always showed up as loading first in warmup to me |
| 21:48.46 | ShadoxLX | and it didn't work when I had norton as well |
| 21:48.59 | Tekkub | it's not consistant across platforms DrDre |
| 21:49.03 | ShadoxLX | But in regards to firewall, it appears that it might be a port blocking |
| 21:49.14 | DrDre | ah didnt know that, i take it linux/mac specifically? lol |
| 21:49.17 | ShadoxLX | It will always begin to DL, it gets to 11 or 12kb then stops. |
| 21:49.23 | Xuerian | Yep :P |
| 21:49.47 | Tekkub | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/!!!StandaloneLibraries/README%20DAMNIT.txt |
| 21:49.50 | *** join/#wowace Slayman (n=Alex@d003034.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 21:49.56 | DrDre | I wonder if we should read that |
| 21:50.45 | Tekkub | ren "README DAMNIT.txt" "Readme or I'll cut you.txt" |
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| 21:51.26 | Tekkub | and now for a fun task... all those libs need to be made LoD :) |
| 21:51.29 | ShadoxLX | any other idea's tekkub? I'm going to try DMZing my machine and see if that helps :/ |
| 21:51.57 | Tekkub | like I said there's some virus scanner that hates SVN |
| 21:51.57 | ShadoxLX | well |
| 21:52.02 | ShadoxLX | mine tells me every time -anything- happens |
| 21:52.07 | DrDre | check your FW app list to see if it somehow got blocked already is why your not being asked? |
| 21:52.08 | ShadoxLX | this one doesn't say anything, neither did my previous one :/ |
| 21:52.10 | Moondrake[G5] | "your skill in reading has increased by 1" |
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| 21:52.44 | Ghent | what is this "reading" you speak of? |
| 21:53.00 | eternally777 | Hmm... I have StopTheLagness installed, but my increasing memory rate still skyrockets if I mouse over an item in my inventory |
| 21:53.05 | Tekkub | reading is what most online chatters call talking |
| 21:53.05 | Moondrake[G5] | it's a tradeskill you get after level 60 |
| 21:53.28 | Tekkub | talking is what those "social" people that aren't afraid of the sun do when around other freaks like themselves |
| 21:54.04 | Moondrake[G5] | a horrible thought |
| 21:54.07 | Ghent | Tekkub, your words confuse me and draw pictures in my mind. :( |
| 21:54.21 | Xuerian | Pretty pictures. |
| 21:54.36 | Tekkub | we talk w ithout making a sound |
| 21:54.45 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.119) |
| 21:54.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:54.49 | Tekkub | my quasi-boss talks without saying anything |
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| 21:55.00 | Tekkub | and she has a lot to talk about for having so little to say |
| 21:55.10 | Moondrake[G5] | depends on the chatsoftware^^ |
| 21:55.15 | Tekkub | A LOT |
| 21:55.19 | Tekkub | she never stops |
| 21:55.30 | ShadoxLX | hmm |
| 21:55.34 | Moondrake[G5] | i can activate text to speech, which voice do you want to have tekkub? |
| 21:55.36 | ShadoxLX | so i DMZ'd my machine |
| 21:55.42 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:55.42 | ShadoxLX | and turned off all my firewall/antivirus stuff |
| 21:55.48 | ShadoxLX | and it's still draggong ass :/ |
| 21:55.49 | Moondrake[G5] | hey ck |
| 21:55.59 | mjc | ShadoxLX:what is |
| 21:56.12 | ShadoxLX | trying to download from the svn via tortoise |
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| 21:56.35 | ShadoxLX | works great at work on my comp there, works like shit at home |
| 21:56.56 | mjc | ShadoxLX: ping time to svn.wowace.com ? |
| 21:56.59 | Tekkub | ShadoxLX, you planning on editing mods, orare you just an end user? |
| 21:57.10 | ShadoxLX | mjc: 52 |
| 21:57.47 | ShadoxLX | tekkub: mostly EU atm |
| 21:58.01 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2419.0;topicseen |
| 21:58.08 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/files/ |
| 21:58.22 | Moondrake[G5] | Tekkub: PerfectTargets, i f i delete anything in the print table apart icons and number of players targeting hte mob, will that work without problems? |
| 21:58.28 | andreasg | ckknight: did you ever get an answer to the question you asked about RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE and updating unit frame layouts vs. dirty lists? |
| 21:58.29 | Tekkub | SVN's better for getting at branches mostly :) |
| 21:58.36 | Tekkub | and the non-windows users |
| 21:58.41 | mjc | ShadoxLX: download rate of http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=Necronomicon/ ? |
| 21:58.53 | ShadoxLX | let me try, i'm downloading bartender2 atm. |
| 21:59.04 | mjc | necro's one of the larger ones |
| 21:59.12 | Tekkub | Moon... what? |
| 21:59.25 | ShadoxLX | finished was practically done by the time I hit save |
| 21:59.31 | ShadoxLX | cached download rate that popped up was over 1mb/sec |
| 21:59.36 | Moondrake[G5] | tekkub: wait a sec.. opening the ptarg |
| 21:59.40 | mjc | dump the cache. |
| 21:59.43 | MoonWolf | why did you highlight me ? |
| 21:59.47 | ShadoxLX | no no i mean |
| 21:59.48 | ckknight | andreasg, no, I haven't |
| 21:59.50 | ckknight | I really want that. |
| 22:00.01 | ckknight | because a dirty flag would be suboptimal |
| 22:00.01 | ShadoxLX | mjc: when you start a dl your browser beings DLing before you select save or open |
| 22:00.05 | mjc | ShadoxLX: try commandline svn then |
| 22:00.08 | ShadoxLX | so by the time I hit save it had already partially finished |
| 22:00.28 | andreasg | I really do too. It would be stupid to have to clean out offline members when you leave combat |
| 22:00.45 | ckknight | and I don't honestly see room for cheating |
| 22:00.53 | andreasg | It's not like anyone would be able to abuse that event to create a decursive or emergency monitor |
| 22:00.58 | ckknight | right. |
| 22:01.04 | ShadoxLX | :'( I like tortoise :P but okay, let me grab one |
| 22:01.12 | andreasg | it doesn't happen often enough |
| 22:01.14 | ckknight | andreasg, think I should make another thread? |
| 22:01.14 | Moondrake[G5] | tekkub: i wanted to ask you that long ago, but never saw you online ;) too tired to look at your code right now, so here's the question: if i wanted PTarg to only show me raidicons and the number of people on it, how can i do that? |
| 22:01.22 | ckknight | specifically for that request |
| 22:01.25 | Goggles | I'm trying to put my addon into the SVN (using TortoiseSVN) but I'm not entirely sure how to handle the externals. I've tried looking at the TortoiseSVN manual and still completely confused. Can anyone help me? |
| 22:01.30 | ckknight | and then have you say you'd like it as well? |
| 22:01.40 | andreasg | ckknight: yes please, that would be great. I tried asking it on EU, but we don't get to talk to Slouken |
| 22:01.42 | Tekkub | uh, hide all the other frames |
| 22:01.46 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 22:01.52 | Tekkub | like, edit them out of the mod |
| 22:01.56 | ShadoxLX | mjc: any specific commandline svn you recommend or want me to try? |
| 22:02.09 | JoshBorke | Goggles: right click on the folder, select properties, then there should be a svn properties or something |
| 22:02.17 | ShadoxLX | mjc: svn binaries? |
| 22:02.23 | andreasg | ckknight: what if a guild that was raiding kept moving people back and forth to keep the event being spammed? :P |
| 22:02.24 | Tekkub | you could greatly reduce the code involved if you just want icons and numbers |
| 22:02.25 | ShadoxLX | binarys* |
| 22:02.28 | Moondrake[G5] | tekkub: yeah that's what i wanted to do, only wanted to ask if i won't break the whole thing ;) |
| 22:02.46 | ckknight | andreasg, that seems awfully painful, hackish, and too much effort for said guild |
| 22:02.57 | Moondrake[G5] | Tekkub: and as i am very lazy, i like to ask first before actually looking at the code :P |
| 22:02.57 | Tekkub | the whole thing is quite modular... the target list is seperate from the frames for the most part |
| 22:03.12 | Tekkub | just do it one field at a time from the right, you'll be fine |
| 22:03.13 | andreasg | yeah. I was just exploring ways that it could be abused, but I agree, that stuff wouldn't be worth it |
| 22:03.24 | andreasg | but make a post about it |
| 22:03.31 | ckknight | the forums are horribly laggy |
| 22:03.36 | ckknight | for me, at least |
| 22:03.36 | andreasg | I'd really like to hear what I can do to have my addons working on release |
| 22:03.43 | maia | ckknight: btw, its not only the problem of adding a new unit, but each R_R_U will shuffle all the unitids, so without updating all unit frames you might end up targetting the wrong person |
| 22:03.45 | ShadoxLX | mjc: my tortoise transfer finally ended midway through at Error: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 22:03.45 | ShadoxLX | Error: REPORT of '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.wowace.com) |
| 22:03.57 | ckknight | maia, I'll put that note in |
| 22:04.03 | Tekkub | ckk, if you have time, make all the standalones of your Libs be LoD |
| 22:04.08 | Tekkub | except maybe Ace2 |
| 22:04.12 | ckknight | Tekkub, :-( |
| 22:04.22 | ckknight | why do I have to do it? |
| 22:04.30 | Tekkub | I just put up my solution to the damn !!!Libs thing |
| 22:04.36 | ckknight | oh? |
| 22:04.38 | ckknight | link |
| 22:04.43 | maia | ckknight: e.g. you're in a 40man raid, you're raid40. someone leaves the raid, unit frames think you still are raid40 because they can't update the info. bam, you're targetting nil instead yourself. |
| 22:04.47 | mjc | ShadoxLX: I asked you to try the commandline one |
| 22:04.58 | Tekkub | instead of all-in-one mod it's each standalone... so it'd be nice if only needed ones loaded |
| 22:05.07 | ShadoxLX | mjc: I'm getting one right now, that's the result of my tortoise download that has been running for the last 10 minutes :P |
| 22:05.09 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=%21%21%21StandaloneLibraries/ |
| 22:05.16 | mjc | ShadoxLX: tortoise has it |
| 22:05.21 | ckknight | Tekkub, hrm, but that's hard to manage |
| 22:05.23 | Tekkub | it's just empty folders, intended to be used with WinAceUpydater |
| 22:05.31 | mjc | ShadoxLX: in the tortoise folder |
| 22:05.31 | Tekkub | how's it hard? |
| 22:05.34 | maia | Tekkub: what about people who arent using windows? |
| 22:05.36 | ShadoxLX | mjc: oh, okay |
| 22:05.41 | Tekkub | if they're LoD they only load if a dep is there |
| 22:05.43 | Moondrake[G5] | maia: /sign |
| 22:05.54 | Tekkub | maia, screw thoes fucking Mac hippies :) |
| 22:06.01 | andreasg | Tekkub: no wai |
| 22:06.01 | mjc | Tekkub: :'( |
| 22:06.03 | Moondrake[G5] | maia: those ppl don't need thx like that |
| 22:06.04 | mjc | Tekkub: linux too |
| 22:06.21 | Tekkub | linux people don't count, they like to tinker |
| 22:06.28 | Tekkub | this is a "simple solution" |
| 22:06.32 | mjc | Tekkub: editing tocs over and over is retarded |
| 22:06.32 | andreasg | I like to tinker on my Mac Tekkub |
| 22:06.37 | Moondrake[G5] | for the "simple" people |
| 22:06.47 | mjc | Tekkub: I tinker on my macs too :) ex-linux user :P |
| 22:06.50 | Tekkub | andreasg, still a hippie |
| 22:06.53 | andreasg | lol. |
| 22:07.22 | andreasg | I bet more hippies uses windows because it is cheaper:8 |
| 22:07.23 | andreasg | :( |
| 22:07.37 | Moondrake[G5] | cheaper? |
| 22:07.40 | mjc | andreasg: hippies use linux because i is Free |
| 22:07.45 | mjc | yuppies use macs |
| 22:07.50 | Moondrake[G5] | you've seen the licence prices? |
| 22:07.54 | andreasg | but but tekkub said ... |
| 22:07.56 | andreasg | :) |
| 22:08.07 | Moondrake[G5] | os X is a lot cheaper |
| 22:08.18 | ckknight | your mom was cheap last night |
| 22:08.21 | Moondrake[G5] | especially if you buy a new computer XD |
| 22:08.31 | mjc | Moondrake[G5]: there are no $200 macs with keyboard mouse and printer |
| 22:08.41 | mjc | you can get PCs like that if you're persuasive |
| 22:08.49 | mjc | that said I only use macs :) |
| 22:08.54 | Moondrake[G5] | yeah but i wouldn't want them^^ |
| 22:09.03 | mjc | Moondrake[G5]: that's not the point :) |
| 22:09.20 | mjc | you said cheaper, which means period |
| 22:09.26 | mjc | which is false |
| 22:09.28 | Moondrake[G5] | if i wanted to build up a PC the same as my mac here it would be 500$ more expensive^^ |
| 22:09.33 | Moondrake[G5] | ahh |
| 22:09.44 | Moondrake[G5] | yeah ok right on that |
| 22:09.45 | ShadoxLX | mjc: I feel stupid, i'm not sure how to make this run, looking on the tortoise site it looks like I should be able to use the svn command but this isn't found, i see no appropriate application to run in the tortoise dir either |
| 22:09.53 | ShadoxLX | mjc: executable* |
| 22:10.01 | mjc | ShadoxLX: there's no svn.exe ? |
| 22:10.06 | ShadoxLX | mjc: no |
| 22:10.24 | mjc | that must have changed then |
| 22:10.29 | mjc | subversion.tigris.org |
| 22:11.13 | ckknight | omfg, why can't I log into the forums? |
| 22:11.30 | Moondrake[G5] | man, i just testet Sprocket, FTW that is pure nasty evil... how could i live without that? |
| 22:12.18 | ShadoxLX | okay |
| 22:12.20 | ShadoxLX | going to go run that now |
| 22:13.05 | mjc | http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860 |
| 22:14.47 | ShadoxLX | mjc: okay i'm trying, I'm not sure if it is working though. |
| 22:15.20 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13652 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Noth.lua: |
| 22:15.20 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Noth: |
| 22:15.20 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.20 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.20 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.43 | Goggles | on the TortoiseSVN context menu I have: SVN Checkout, Repo BRowser, Export, Create Repository and Import (as well as settings/about etc). Which am I meant to use - none of them seem right and none of them have any mention of externals |
| 22:18.32 | [FH]Birdemani | you can use update to revision and select omit externals, if that is what you are lookingfor |
| 22:18.53 | ShadoxLX | mjc: Should I be seeing any sort of progress while using this? When I enter the command to check it out it just sits there :/ |
| 22:19.13 | Goggles | I've no idea what update to revision means? I have no idea how TortoiseSVN works despite running through manual. I'm completely lost. :( |
| 22:19.30 | ckknight | you update to a specific revision instead of to head by default |
| 22:19.48 | [FH]Birdemani | if you leave the revision section blank it uses the most recent commit |
| 22:20.10 | Goggles | Basically I've got an addon, it's got libraries. I've never done anything with the SVN before now. I'm trying to get it into the SVN. There is no update option that I can find |
| 22:20.28 | ckknight | right-click, update |
| 22:20.30 | [FH]Birdemani | svn update |
| 22:20.48 | Goggles | yes I right click. there is no update. The options I've got are listed above. |
| 22:21.18 | [FH]Birdemani | you have to use checkout first, put in the URL of the repository from svn.wowace.com, this gets the files |
| 22:21.28 | [FH]Birdemani | then after that you right click and a new option is there called svn update |
| 22:21.43 | Goggles | but there are no files. it's my addon. it's never been in svn before |
| 22:21.46 | Greywind | first you have to import your addon, then recheck it out and then you can set the externals mate |
| 22:21.56 | Goggles | aaah thanks Greywind |
| 22:22.12 | [FH]Birdemani | oo, sorry, didnt know you were commiting, i missed that part while watching TV |
| 22:22.30 | Greywind | make sure you import it into /trunk/<Addon Name> and not just trunk |
| 22:22.41 | ShadoxLX | :\ |
| 22:22.43 | ShadoxLX | :| |
| 22:23.15 | ShadoxLX | I can't think of any logical reason the svn would not work at home but it would work at work on my work pc :/ |
| 22:23.37 | ShadoxLX | mjc: I get teh same error using the commandlind SVN client you pointed me to as I did from tortoise |
| 22:24.16 | Greywind | ShadoxLX: what firewall are you using mate? and do you use a router? |
| 22:24.37 | Goggles | Greywind: hehe just made that mistake (only in sandbox atm though :) ) |
| 22:24.54 | ShadoxLX | greywind: I use Kaspersky Anti-virus, no actual dedicated software firewall. Kaspersky (and windows firewall) are both currently disabled. In addition I am behind a router but I set my computer to DMZ |
| 22:24.56 | Greywind | Goggles: yeah thank god for sandbox |
| 22:25.20 | Greywind | ShadoxLX: hmm wierd |
| 22:25.42 | ShadoxLX | greywind: the error I get is: svn: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 22:25.59 | ShadoxLX | greywind: REPORT of '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.wowace.com) |
| 22:26.41 | Greywind | oh you get errors, now thats something to work with, i thought it was just stalling |
| 22:26.51 | ShadoxLX | it hangs for a long time |
| 22:26.56 | ShadoxLX | and then gives me the same error every time |
| 22:27.05 | ShadoxLX | it stalls for a long time starting up |
| 22:27.08 | ShadoxLX | then craps out during the externals |
| 22:27.15 | ShadoxLX | from what i'ves een using tortoise |
| 22:27.25 | ShadoxLX | subversion commandline svn doesn't show me any progress as I am checking out |
| 22:27.55 | ShadoxLX | Greywind: Subversion appears to have only gotten the .svn folder :| |
| 22:28.07 | Goggles | Greywind: after I've imported, do I need to delete my local copy to be able to check out? |
| 22:28.29 | Greywind | Goggles: yes :) |
| 22:29.34 | Goggles | Greywind: ok imported, deleted local, checked out. what are the steps for sorting the externals? |
| 22:30.14 | ShadoxLX | greywind: the behavior I see is, it begins check out at slow speed, no indication of any actual file being transferred, and then stalls at 9-14kb transferred for several minutes |
| 22:30.19 | mjc | Tekkub: how goes |
| 22:30.47 | ShadoxLX | greywind: My problem seems to be in the externals, I'm not sure why I can't download them from home |
| 22:30.56 | mjc | different addons? |
| 22:31.09 | mjc | I think you ahve one whose externals are bad |
| 22:31.25 | ShadoxLX | mjc: doesn't work for bigwigs, bartender.. hmmm |
| 22:31.26 | CIA-17 | 03roartindon * r13653 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Small fix to stop errors when cross-server players loot in AV. |
| 22:31.32 | ShadoxLX | mjc: mods I tested and were able to download before at work |
| 22:31.38 | Greywind | ShadoxLX: that 400 error is a router/proxy error of some sort |
| 22:31.50 | mjc | Greywind: svn is proxied |
| 22:31.54 | ShadoxLX | greywind: on my side? why would it be happening on the externals though? |
| 22:31.59 | mjc | Greywind: squid |
| 22:32.27 | mjc | ShadoxLX: svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/root/trunk/Bartender2, anywhere but your addons folder |
| 22:32.52 | ShadoxLX | i tried that and it didn't work :'( |
| 22:33.00 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au) |
| 22:33.02 | mjc | ShadoxLX: hum |
| 22:33.12 | ShadoxLX | mjc: I have nothing but the Blizzard_* addons in my addons folder anywa, i wiped everything clean, i'll tyr again though |
| 22:33.35 | mjc | s/root\/// |
| 22:33.48 | ShadoxLX | mjc: pardon? |
| 22:33.56 | mjc | ShadoxLX: svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Bartender2 |
| 22:33.57 | mjc | wrong url |
| 22:34.04 | ShadoxLX | oh right |
| 22:34.30 | ShadoxLX | i didn't catch the s/ notation at first =P |
| 22:34.40 | mjc | also, which external |
| 22:35.05 | ShadoxLX | mjc: this commandline SVN doesn't tell me which one |
| 22:35.10 | ShadoxLX | mjc: using tortoise I can see which one it errors on |
| 22:35.44 | Moondrake[G5] | Tekkub: still there? |
| 22:36.04 | mjc | ShadoxLX: theyboth should ahve the same textx |
| 22:36.10 | mjc | run it frmo a command prompt, you dolt |
| 22:36.15 | ShadoxLX | ... |
| 22:36.16 | ShadoxLX | i am |
| 22:36.24 | mjc | the output should be identical |
| 22:36.31 | ShadoxLX | identical to what? |
| 22:36.40 | ShadoxLX | all this one tells me when it errors is |
| 22:36.46 | mjc | tortoise and commandline should give the exact same output |
| 22:37.00 | mjc | jeez |
| 22:37.01 | ShadoxLX | well they don't =P |
| 22:37.06 | ShadoxLX | the final error message is the same |
| 22:37.08 | ShadoxLX | I already told it to you |
| 22:37.18 | ShadoxLX | the command line gives me no intermediate output |
| 22:37.21 | mjc | nobody caers about the final message |
| 22:37.32 | mjc | there's more interesting info above that |
| 22:37.37 | Greywind | ShadoxLX: http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2004-02/0982.shtml here is some info on that error |
| 22:37.42 | mjc | like... which external |
| 22:37.48 | ShadoxLX | mjc: no there isn't, would you like a screenshot? |
| 22:37.56 | ShadoxLX | mjc: don't get mad at me because the output isn't what you want it to be. |
| 22:38.06 | Ghent | shouldn't need a screenshot |
| 22:38.10 | mjc | Fetching external item into 'Bartender2/Libs/AceModuleCore-2.0' |
| 22:38.10 | mjc | A Bartender2/Libs/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua |
| 22:38.11 | mjc | Checked out external at revision 13653. |
| 22:38.15 | ShadoxLX | it doesn't say that |
| 22:38.15 | Ghent | should be able to cut n paste what you see |
| 22:38.24 | ShadoxLX | it hangs at svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Bartender2 C:\Bartender2 |
| 22:38.25 | mjc | Ghent: windows command prompts suck at that |
| 22:38.28 | ShadoxLX | until it gives the error |
| 22:38.39 | ShadoxLX | the 400 error stating it failed |
| 22:38.40 | Ghent | mjc, no they don't, if you know what you're doing |
| 22:38.50 | Ghent | shadow, what do the lines before that say? |
| 22:38.53 | Ghent | specifically |
| 22:38.57 | mjc | Ghent: you can't select a single line that wraps without it becoming two lines |
| 22:39.03 | ShadoxLX | C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\svn-win32-1.4.0\bin>svn co h |
| 22:39.03 | ShadoxLX | ttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Bartender2/ Bartender2 |
| 22:39.03 | ShadoxLX | svn: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 22:39.03 | ShadoxLX | svn: REPORT of '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.wowace.co |
| 22:39.03 | ShadoxLX | m) |
| 22:39.13 | Ghent | okay |
| 22:39.16 | ShadoxLX | see? |
| 22:39.17 | ShadoxLX | nothing |
| 22:39.22 | mjc | ShadoxLX: ok, let me check all the mirrors by hand |
| 22:39.29 | Ghent | shadow, that sayseverything you need it to |
| 22:39.35 | ShadoxLX | when i do it with tortoise however |
| 22:39.45 | Ghent | problem 1 |
| 22:39.46 | ShadoxLX | I can see the file by file checkout and which external it errors on |
| 22:39.46 | mjc | ShadoxLX: hangon |
| 22:40.05 | Ghent | Shadow |
| 22:40.13 | ShadoxLX | w -> x |
| 22:40.13 | Ghent | take the trailing slash off the Bartender2/ |
| 22:40.13 | ShadoxLX | yes? |
| 22:40.31 | ShadoxLX | C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\svn-win32-1.4.0\bin>svn co h |
| 22:40.31 | ShadoxLX | ttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Bartender2 C:\Bartender2 |
| 22:40.31 | ShadoxLX | svn: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 22:40.31 | ShadoxLX | svn: REPORT of '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.wowace.co |
| 22:40.31 | ShadoxLX | m) |
| 22:40.36 | Ghent | don't think that'll make a diff, but never know |
| 22:40.38 | ShadoxLX | that's copy pasted what mjc told me to put in |
| 22:40.44 | ShadoxLX | it just finished a second ago |
| 22:40.49 | Ghent | k, that's a server side error |
| 22:40.50 | mjc | give me a sec |
| 22:41.13 | mjc | Ghent: it could be his ISP modifying stuff, or, it could actually be one of the mirrors messing up |
| 22:41.17 | mjc | I'm checking them by hand now |
| 22:41.19 | Ghent | aye |
| 22:42.10 | Ghent | Shadow |
| 22:42.16 | Ghent | nslookup www.wowace.com |
| 22:42.20 | Ghent | type that, please |
| 22:42.26 | Ghent | er, sorry |
| 22:42.26 | Greywind | hmm is there a basic svn tutorial up on the wiki? like importing your first addon and setting externals, stuff like that? if not I have time to write it up |
| 22:42.29 | Ghent | nslookup svn.wowace.com |
| 22:42.39 | mjc | Greywind: don't think so |
| 22:42.44 | ShadoxLX | Server: dns.asm.bellsouth.net |
| 22:42.45 | ShadoxLX | Address: 205.152.37.23 |
| 22:42.45 | ShadoxLX | Non-authoritative answer: |
| 22:42.45 | ShadoxLX | Name: svn.wowace.com |
| 22:42.45 | ShadoxLX | Address: 65.98.61.60 |
| 22:42.52 | Greywind | ok ill write it up now |
| 22:43.38 | Ghent | Grey |
| 22:43.39 | Ghent | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Idiots |
| 22:44.01 | Greywind | yeah but that assumes you are using the command line for everything |
| 22:44.04 | mjc | ShadoxLX: all the mirrors except svn1 look ok. so not sure what's gong on |
| 22:44.13 | ShadoxLX | I dunno ;/ |
| 22:44.13 | mjc | Greywind: feel free to add ;) |
| 22:44.15 | [FH]Birdemani | anyone try out this latest autobar beta today? |
| 22:44.24 | ShadoxLX | The SVN used to work fine for me |
| 22:44.28 | mjc | ShadoxLX: svn1 hasn't been in the rotation for a while as far as I know |
| 22:44.29 | Greywind | mjc: yup thats what i love about wikis hehe |
| 22:44.32 | ShadoxLX | until you guys changed the server several weeks back |
| 22:44.38 | ShadoxLX | and then it never worked again |
| 22:44.41 | Ghent | Shadow |
| 22:44.45 | mjc | ShadoxLX: yes that would make senseb ecause you're getting an error from squid |
| 22:44.45 | Ghent | is your windows firewall enabled? |
| 22:44.46 | ShadoxLX | but it worked for me 2-3 hours ago at work |
| 22:44.49 | mjc | and we weren't using squid |
| 22:45.00 | ShadoxLX | Ghent: no |
| 22:45.23 | ShadoxLX | Ghent: Window's firewall off. Kaspersky Anti-Virus off, DMZ to my local IP on |
| 22:46.01 | mjc | what router |
| 22:46.01 | ShadoxLX | trying to check Bartender2 back out again using tortoise GUI |
| 22:46.07 | [FH]Birdemani | the new autobar on curse is now packed with alot of the libs like candybar, dewdrop, etc... |
| 22:46.12 | ShadoxLX | I can tell you which external it craps out on |
| 22:46.25 | Ghent | Shadow, it's not a problem with the externals |
| 22:46.28 | ShadoxLX | mjc: wrt54g |
| 22:46.38 | Ghent | it's a problem with how you are communicating with the SVN server |
| 22:46.42 | ShadoxLX | hmm |
| 22:46.49 | ShadoxLX | let me install tortoise on my other machine |
| 22:46.52 | ShadoxLX | see if it works there :| |
| 22:47.21 | ShadoxLX | that would be most irritating : |
| 22:47.21 | mjc | ShadoxLX: official firmware? |
| 22:47.22 | ShadoxLX | :( |
| 22:47.26 | ShadoxLX | Yes |
| 22:47.29 | mjc | v5? |
| 22:47.31 | ShadoxLX | No hack firmware |
| 22:47.43 | ShadoxLX | v5 |
| 22:47.57 | mjc | the V5 runs VxWorks. I have no idea bout the config options |
| 22:48.01 | mjc | let me check them though, real quick |
| 22:48.01 | Ghent | shadow |
| 22:48.05 | Ghent | I know you said your virus is off |
| 22:48.08 | Ghent | but try this, please |
| 22:48.10 | Ghent | http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2006-09/0195.shtml |
| 22:48.17 | ckknight | I hacked my v5 |
| 22:48.32 | Ghent | also this |
| 22:48.33 | Ghent | http://www.jroller.com/page/chemeia?entry=subversion_and_kaspersky |
| 22:48.40 | ShadoxLX | interesting |
| 22:48.41 | ShadoxLX | okay |
| 22:49.03 | ShadoxLX | sec |
| 22:49.05 | mjc | ckknight: not related, just rtying to fifgure out what might be the issue |
| 22:49.06 | ShadoxLX | I need to figure out how to do this |
| 22:49.26 | mjc | ShadoxLX: nice, that looks like the issue |
| 22:49.29 | ckknight | why can't I log into the wow forums? :'( |
| 22:49.35 | mjc | ShadoxLX: uninstall kaspersky, something like that |
| 22:49.37 | mjc | ckknight: usa? |
| 22:49.41 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:49.46 | mjc | ckknight: checking |
| 22:49.50 | ShadoxLX | mjc: this looks like I should just be able to tell kaspersky to trust it, no? |
| 22:49.51 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13654 10AbacusLib/AbacusLib.toc: AbacusLib - Now LoD |
| 22:49.57 | mjc | ShadoxLX: possibly |
| 22:49.59 | Ghent | Shadow, from what I read, just add svn.wowace.com to your trusted hosts settings |
| 22:50.03 | mjc | TBC screenshots |
| 22:50.13 | mjc | sucky |
| 22:50.24 | mjc | looks like they did nothing to the textures |
| 22:50.38 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13655 10BabbleLib/BabbleLib.toc: BabbleLib - Now LoD |
| 22:51.15 | ShadoxLX | okay i added that ghent |
| 22:51.18 | ShadoxLX | lets see whath appens :| |
| 22:51.20 | mjc | ckknight: wfm |
| 22:51.27 | ckknight | wtf |
| 22:51.34 | eternally777 | o.O |
| 22:51.55 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13656 10BanzaiLib/BanzaiLib.toc: BanzaiLib - Now LoD |
| 22:52.04 | ckknight | I can log into my account info |
| 22:52.07 | ckknight | I can log into the game |
| 22:52.11 | ckknight | I can't log into the forum |
| 22:52.14 | mjc | ckknight: kill cookies ;P |
| 22:52.20 | ShadoxLX | hmm |
| 22:52.21 | mjc | the usaul |
| 22:52.24 | mjc | yadda yadda |
| 22:52.26 | ckknight | and it doesn't give any error, it just goes to nothing |
| 22:52.28 | ShadoxLX | not exactly sure how to add tortoise app to this also, i tried though |
| 22:53.07 | mjc | ShadoxLX: dump retarded app |
| 22:53.14 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13657 10CandyBar/CandyBar.toc: CandyBar - Now LoD |
| 22:53.25 | mjc | ShadoxLX: kaspersky, that is |
| 22:53.26 | ShadoxLX | mjc: silly solution, kaspersky is good AV |
| 22:53.28 | Ghent | shadow, same way you added svn to it |
| 22:53.32 | mjc | ShadoxLX: not if it does shit like this |
| 22:53.37 | ShadoxLX | hmm |
| 22:53.41 | ShadoxLX | got a different error now ghent |
| 22:53.43 | ShadoxLX | and mjc |
| 22:53.45 | Ghent | I've never used kaspersky, so I don't know specifically |
| 22:53.47 | ShadoxLX | Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/13658' |
| 22:53.48 | ShadoxLX | Error: No such revision 13658 |
| 22:53.50 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13658 10CrayonLib/CrayonLib.toc: CrayonLib - Now LoD |
| 22:54.02 | mjc | ShadoxLX: blame tekkub, it takes a minute to sync mirrors |
| 22:54.07 | ShadoxLX | ah |
| 22:54.08 | mjc | retry :) |
| 22:54.19 | [FH]Birdemani | getting propfind errors on !!!lib, is that cause you are updating it tekkub? |
| 22:54.25 | Greywind | yup |
| 22:54.33 | Tekkub | stop using fucking !!!Libs, thanks |
| 22:54.40 | Greywind | oh sweet LoD libraries! |
| 22:54.50 | mjc | Tekkub: <3 |
| 22:55.05 | ckknight | no go, mjc |
| 22:55.13 | Tekkub | use !!!StandaloneLibraries with WinAceUpdater |
| 22:55.23 | [FH]Birdemani | Im using svn |
| 22:55.26 | ShadoxLX | mjc/Ghent: Thanks a bunch, it works now :D |
| 22:55.28 | Greywind | so when they are in the optionaldeps, they will be loaded automatically right? |
| 22:55.34 | Tekkub | sucks to be you :P |
| 22:55.34 | ckknight | after deleting all my cookies, not working. |
| 22:55.38 | Ghent | Shadow, you're welcome |
| 22:55.46 | mjc | ShadoxLX: consider dumping kaspersky, sounds like trash |
| 22:55.47 | ckknight | what's wrong with !!!Libs? |
| 22:55.48 | Tekkub | don't use !!!Libs, I've been saying this for how long now? |
| 22:55.50 | ShadoxLX | That might be worth nothing for the future :| |
| 22:55.53 | ShadoxLX | what an irritating problem |
| 22:56.04 | ckknight | it's easy to manage, compared to a bazillion different standalone lib folders |
| 22:56.08 | mjc | ShadoxLX: but I dont know, I don't use OSes taht need realtime AV |
| 22:56.24 | mjc | haven't ever |
| 22:56.25 | [FH]Birdemani | ive read your reasons on it tekkub, but Ive also seen how much faster my game loads with libs, so for the moment Im using it till I get a better machine |
| 22:56.39 | mjc | [FH]Birdemani: use !!!StandaloneLibriaries |
| 22:56.45 | Ghent | mjc, you run a mac, right? |
| 22:56.47 | ShadoxLX | Every AV out there has some quirk or anything at some point |
| 22:56.48 | mjc | for the millionth fucking time |
| 22:56.50 | Tekkub | *facepasm* |
| 22:56.54 | mjc | Ghent: mac, linux, *bsd |
| 22:56.56 | Tekkub | you've NOT read my reasons |
| 22:56.59 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13659 10Deformat/Deformat.toc: Deformat - Now LoD |
| 22:57.01 | mjc | Tekkub: kick him |
| 22:57.03 | mjc | :P |
| 22:57.08 | Ghent | right... when you run windows, it's necessary :P |
| 22:57.13 | ckknight | Tekkub, link to your reasons? |
| 22:57.15 | ShadoxLX | Indeed.. |
| 22:57.15 | mjc | Ghent: fuck that |
| 22:57.18 | [FH]Birdemani | it was in the forums |
| 22:57.19 | Ghent | I agere |
| 22:57.22 | Tekkub | my reasons are not about using the embeds, but rather using the PROPER library standalones not that all-in- one bullshit |
| 22:57.39 | Tekkub | reasons: |
| 22:57.40 | ShadoxLX | greywind: do you pick up chicks at the clinic? |
| 22:57.42 | mjc | I do have one windows box but it doesn't even have IE |
| 22:57.49 | Tekkub | 1) zips don't update for !!!Libs |
| 22:58.04 | Tekkub | 2) standalones load correctly, !!!Libs does not always load first |
| 22:58.16 | Greywind | ShadoxLX: lol no, i just dont use a running AV, i still scan |
| 22:58.17 | Tekkub | 3) LoD libs will not load if they're not needed |
| 22:58.17 | mjc | Tekkub: don't waste your time |
| 22:58.29 | Tekkub | 4) !!!Libs has had issues BREAKING the libs in it |
| 22:58.35 | ckknight | (3) is the only valid reason for me |
| 22:58.39 | ShadoxLX | greywind: ^_^ |
| 22:58.41 | ckknight | when did !!!Libs break the libs? |
| 22:58.45 | Tekkub | 3 is valid enough :) |
| 22:58.53 | mjc | I've had 4 happen more htan once |
| 22:59.09 | mjc | going home form work now, ckk if youwant me to elaborate I'll be back shortly |
| 22:59.13 | Tekkub | it broke CandyBars for a long time, then it broke something else and they had to rename it to the shorter nawe |
| 22:59.13 | mjc | 40mins or so |
| 22:59.20 | ckknight | I like !!!Libs cause it's easier to manage 1 folder than a whole lot of standalone libs |
| 22:59.36 | Tekkub | ckk, WinAceUpdaer :) |
| 22:59.43 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:59.47 | mjc | ckknight: svk |
| 22:59.49 | ckknight | I don't wanna |
| 22:59.57 | Xuerian | lol |
| 23:00.07 | Tekkub | then bugger off sod, I got a lot of LoDing you're distracting me from |
| 23:00.12 | Greywind | lol |
| 23:00.28 | mjc | Tekkub: man sed |
| 23:01.04 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 23:01.23 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13660 10DewdropLib/DewdropLib.toc: DewdropLib - Now LoD |
| 23:01.24 | mjc | Tekkub: find xargs grep and sed should be able to do the whole LoD thing :P |
| 23:01.29 | mjc | anyways. yeah |
| 23:01.41 | Tekkub | yea I'm already 1/3 done |
| 23:02.56 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13661 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.toc: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - Now LoD |
| 23:04.39 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13662 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (ItemClassLib/ ItemClasseLib/): Standalone Libraries - Oops, bad folder name... |
| 23:05.33 | ShadoxLX | ah revision errors everywhere! |
| 23:05.36 | ShadoxLX | more mirror stuff? |
| 23:05.40 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13663 10GloryLib/GloryLib.toc: GloryLib - Now LoD |
| 23:06.24 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13664 10ItemClassLib/ItemClassLib.toc: ItemClassLib - Now LoD |
| 23:07.14 | snurre- | rabbit! |
| 23:10.08 | CIA-17 | 03cladhaire * r13666 10PerfectRaid/ (Localization.enUS.lua PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidOptions.lua): |
| 23:10.08 | CIA-17 | PerfectRaid: |
| 23:10.08 | CIA-17 | * Added /praid config which opens the dewdrop menu |
| 23:10.08 | CIA-17 | * Added /praid filter which filters debuffs on only those we can cure |
| 23:10.08 | CIA-17 | * Priests will ALWAYS show Weakened Soul/PW:S, see no need for a toggle atm |
| 23:10.23 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13665 10JostleLib/JostleLib.toc: JostleLib - Now LoD |
| 23:10.27 | *** join/#wowace Slayman (n=Alex@c135215.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 23:10.30 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13667 10OneStorage/OneStorage.toc: OneStorage - Now LoD |
| 23:11.12 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13668 10PaintChipsLib/PaintChipsLib.toc: PaintChipsLib - Now LoD |
| 23:11.48 | ShadoxLX | SO if I am getting no such revision errors, is that just a mirroring issue and waiting a few minutes will straighten it out? |
| 23:12.02 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13669 10ParserLib/ParserLib.toc: ParserLib - Now LoD |
| 23:12.23 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13670 10PeriodicTable/PeriodicTable.toc: PeriodicTable - Now LoD |
| 23:12.24 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13671 10ProximityLib/ProximityLib.toc: ProximityLib - Now LoD |
| 23:12.40 | kergoth | ~praise Tekkub |
| 23:12.41 | purl | All hail Tekkub! |
| 23:12.54 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13672 10RosterLib/RosterLib.toc: RosterLib - Now LoD |
| 23:12.55 | Tekkub | :P |
| 23:12.56 | ShadoxLX | can anyone say? |
| 23:13.03 | ShadoxLX | tError: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bc/13672/trunk/FuBar_RegenFu' |
| 23:13.03 | ShadoxLX | Error: No such revision 13672 |
| 23:13.05 | ShadoxLX | those right there? |
| 23:13.26 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13673 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEventsEmbed.toc: SpecialEventsEmbed - Now LoD |
| 23:13.34 | SH|Shabador | Just wait untill tekkub's done with the massive updating. |
| 23:13.41 | ShadoxLX | nod |
| 23:13.43 | ShadoxLX | that's the cause of it? |
| 23:13.45 | SH|Shabador | Or download from /files/ |
| 23:14.31 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13674 10SpellCacheLib/SpellCacheLib.toc: SpellCacheLib - Now LoD |
| 23:14.31 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13675 10SpellStatusLib/SpellStatusLib.toc: SpellStatusLib - Now LoD |
| 23:14.43 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13676 10TabletLib/TabletLib.toc: TabletLib - Now LoD |
| 23:15.06 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13677 10TipLib/TipLib.toc: TipLib - Now LoD |
| 23:15.10 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13678 10TouristLib/TouristLib.toc: TouristLib - Now LoD |
| 23:15.33 | Tekkub | and once they go thru tek is done... |
| 23:15.40 | Tekkub | Vector's the last |
| 23:15.48 | ShadoxLX | hm? |
| 23:15.52 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13679 10VectorLib/VectorLib.toc: VectorLib - Now LoD |
| 23:16.02 | Tekkub | there |
| 23:16.03 | Tekkub | done |
| 23:16.12 | ShadoxLX | now just wait for the mirrors to catch up |
| 23:16.14 | ShadoxLX | and all will be well? |
| 23:16.15 | Tekkub | yup |
| 23:16.19 | Tekkub | probably |
| 23:16.24 | ShadoxLX | hopefully? ^_^ |
| 23:16.26 | ShadoxLX | hehe |
| 23:16.27 | Tekkub | until then there's always the zips :) |
| 23:16.31 | kergoth | now to adjust my scripts to ignore externals and fetch the X-Embed's LoD addons |
| 23:16.35 | kergoth | for my set |
| 23:16.35 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:16.37 | Tekkub | just don't go after Library zips yet |
| 23:16.48 | Tekkub | no kergy... |
| 23:17.05 | Tekkub | use !!!StandaloneLibraries to get a folder list :) |
| 23:17.18 | SH|Shabador | How does that one work? |
| 23:17.18 | ShadoxLX | so tekk |
| 23:17.21 | ShadoxLX | to get this straight |
| 23:17.25 | Tekkub | then just grab those, the ones you don't use won't load |
| 23:17.33 | ShadoxLX | what is the recommend way to use the libraries and the addons now |
| 23:17.46 | ShadoxLX | should i not keep the libraries inside of the addons any longer? |
| 23:17.48 | Tekkub | "Recommended" is leave the embeds in |
| 23:17.54 | kergoth | i'd rather only have the libs that addons in my set use in my set, whether the others will load or not.. its easy enough to parse the X-Embed field |
| 23:18.17 | ShadoxLX | so what were you doing tekkub, making the libs if set stand alone |
| 23:18.20 | ShadoxLX | not load unless necessary? |
| 23:18.20 | Tekkub | if you want to un-embed then do so, grab !!!StandaloneLibraries and drop all those folders in your addon path, and use WinAceUpdater to automatically upate/download them |
| 23:18.32 | ShadoxLX | nod |
| 23:18.32 | ShadoxLX | gotcha |
| 23:18.34 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 23:18.43 | ShadoxLX | best way is still to run embedded though, yes? |
| 23:18.53 | Tekkub | if they're LoD they won't load unless something loads that has a dependancy on em |
| 23:18.58 | kergoth | embedded is a great distribution mechanism for individual addons |
| 23:19.01 | Tekkub | embed is the "simplest" |
| 23:19.06 | CIA-17 | 03cladhaire * r13680 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Fixed a math/logic error in the columns code |
| 23:19.13 | kergoth | but for someone, say, distributing an addon set, i could see using standalone to reduce load time |
| 23:19.17 | ShadoxLX | i like the embed, in that you can update a mod |
| 23:19.25 | ShadoxLX | w/o risking a library change breaking an older one |
| 23:19.39 | Tekkub | embed is intended for those people who just don't get it :) |
| 23:19.47 | ShadoxLX | :O |
| 23:19.55 | Tekkub | if you know you have 20 mods using a libmrary, the standalone is a much better route |
| 23:20.13 | ShadoxLX | I suppose if you ran into a conflict |
| 23:20.14 | kergoth | theres no point having 5 versions of one library upgrading one another every single time you load, for example |
| 23:20.19 | ShadoxLX | you could always specifically embed the one for that mod |
| 23:20.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:20.27 | kergoth | ShadoxLX: hm? |
| 23:20.33 | ShadoxLX | well |
| 23:20.35 | kergoth | the latest version of a given lib is used for all addons using that lib. |
| 23:20.37 | Tekkub | ShadoxLX, you don't get it :) |
| 23:20.41 | ShadoxLX | i suppose not :P |
| 23:20.45 | kergoth | if you upgrade an addon and it includes a newer version of the library, thats used for every addon using that library |
| 23:20.46 | Tekkub | minor versions will never conflict |
| 23:20.51 | Tekkub | if they do, that's a bug |
| 23:21.04 | ShadoxLX | what about for a major version change |
| 23:21.05 | ShadoxLX | in a lib |
| 23:21.14 | ShadoxLX | i guess it'd technicallyb e a different lib |
| 23:21.14 | Tekkub | new major version |
| 23:21.22 | Tekkub | loads in parallel with old ones |
| 23:21.27 | ShadoxLX | right |
| 23:21.29 | kergoth | exactly, theres no conceptual difference between two major versions of one lib and two different libs |
| 23:21.37 | ShadoxLX | that was more the point i was getting at |
| 23:21.43 | ShadoxLX | so it'd make most sense then as you said |
| 23:21.46 | ShadoxLX | to grab the standalone pack |
| 23:21.52 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 23:21.54 | *** join/#wowace AxiumKT (n=AxiumKT@n155s195.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) |
| 23:21.54 | ShadoxLX | and then download w/o embeds |
| 23:21.55 | Tekkub | :) |
| 23:22.03 | kergoth | yep |
| 23:22.07 | *** part/#wowace AxiumKT (n=AxiumKT@n155s195.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net) |
| 23:22.10 | kergoth | embeds make a great individual addon distribution mechanism |
| 23:22.11 | kergoth | but thats it |
| 23:22.16 | ShadoxLX | nod |
| 23:22.20 | ShadoxLX | is it safe to grab teh standalone now? |
| 23:22.29 | Tekkub | *shrug* |
| 23:22.36 | Tekkub | the zips are probably made |
| 23:22.44 | Tekkub | did I mention you should try the zips? :) |
| 23:22.52 | ShadoxLX | lol |
| 23:22.54 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2419.0;topicseen |
| 23:22.55 | ShadoxLX | I think you might have =P |
| 23:22.56 | Tekkub | ^^^ |
| 23:23.53 | ShadoxLX | what time zone is the /files thing reported in? |
| 23:24.06 | ShadoxLX | 2006-10-11 23:14:54 |
| 23:24.08 | ShadoxLX | 23:14? |
| 23:24.09 | [FH]Birdemani | so winaceupdater can exclude the externals? |
| 23:24.13 | ShadoxLX | that's... a few hours from now :P |
| 23:24.17 | Tekkub | yes it can |
| 23:24.30 | cladhaire | those perfectraid changes are pretty neat. |
| 23:24.34 | Plorkyeran | GMT, probably |
| 23:24.44 | ShadoxLX | clad |
| 23:24.50 | Tekkub | EST (Earth Standard Time) |
| 23:24.56 | ShadoxLX | do i have a setting weird, or did the class ordering when sorting by class arbitrarily tame? |
| 23:25.02 | ShadoxLX | in praid |
| 23:25.05 | ShadoxLX | er |
| 23:25.08 | ShadoxLX | arbitrarily change* |
| 23:25.08 | cladhaire | tame? |
| 23:25.11 | ShadoxLX | ;p |
| 23:25.14 | ShadoxLX | I have no idea why I typed tame |
| 23:25.14 | cladhaire | not sure what you mean |
| 23:25.16 | ShadoxLX | well |
| 23:25.20 | ShadoxLX | i was using an older version |
| 23:25.26 | ShadoxLX | updated to a new version yesterday |
| 23:25.31 | ShadoxLX | and the classes were all in a different order |
| 23:25.35 | cladhaire | which new version? |
| 23:25.47 | ShadoxLX | latest one on wowinterface yesterday evening |
| 23:26.02 | ShadoxLX | from one... 1-2 months old? |
| 23:26.09 | ShadoxLX | before the oblong black rectangle selector box |
| 23:27.10 | ShadoxLX | I also saw you mentioned something, /praid sort custom |
| 23:27.15 | ShadoxLX | but see no actual mention of that argument |
| 23:27.23 | ShadoxLX | anywhere other than that one response you had to someone's post |
| 23:28.04 | cladhaire | the latest on wowinterfae is like a week old. |
| 23:28.08 | ShadoxLX | so tekk, would you say 2006-10-11 23:14:54 is the up to date version then? :) |
| 23:28.11 | cladhaire | so i can't help you unless you have that, or trunk |
| 23:28.19 | ShadoxLX | yeah |
| 23:28.24 | ShadoxLX | i grabbed the one from wowinterfaces |
| 23:28.25 | ShadoxLX | last night |
| 23:28.37 | Kebinusan | cladhaire, any idea why the files script misses externals sometimes/ |
| 23:28.48 | ShadoxLX | not a big deal though clad |
| 23:28.52 | cladhaire | Kebinusan: Yes, because the way the mirrors work |
| 23:28.59 | cladhaire | and its a nasty hack which never should have happened! |
| 23:29.04 | ShadoxLX | was just wondering why my class ordering switched around, kinda throws me off :| |
| 23:29.13 | cladhaire | well |
| 23:29.17 | cladhaire | use the latest version, and get used to it |
| 23:29.25 | cladhaire | you can't expect nothing to change in a 0.4 versino bump in beta =) |
| 23:29.32 | ShadoxLX | haha |
| 23:29.45 | ShadoxLX | I was just wondering if there was something i forgot that let me change it, or if it just arbitrarily changed :P |
| 23:29.48 | ShadoxLX | sounds like the latter ^_^ |
| 23:30.28 | ShadoxLX | no big deal |
| 23:30.30 | ShadoxLX | mostly curiosity |
| 23:30.31 | ShadoxLX | ;p |
| 23:30.32 | cladhaire | =) |
| 23:30.41 | cladhaire | use /praid sort custom |
| 23:30.44 | cladhaire | if it bothers ya |
| 23:30.49 | ShadoxLX | i saw you mention that |
| 23:30.52 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13681 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Noth.lua: BigWigs: Noth: Fix wave2_message. |
| 23:30.54 | ShadoxLX | but i saw no actual documentation for it's use |
| 23:30.59 | ShadoxLX | its* |
| 23:31.07 | cladhaire | there is no documentationyall are lucky i'm even coding on it anymore =) |
| 23:31.09 | cladhaire | no time :P |
| 23:31.14 | ShadoxLX | lol |
| 23:31.16 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.24 | ShadoxLX | when i get it reinstalled :P |
| 23:31.30 | ShadoxLX | i dumped my UI when I got home from work today |
| 23:31.33 | ShadoxLX | and i'm starting from scratch |
| 23:31.38 | cladhaire | ooh fun |
| 23:31.42 | cladhaire | i'm uploading to wowi now |
| 23:31.43 | ShadoxLX | I was having some memory issues that were driving me nuts |
| 23:31.46 | cladhaire | but still dont have time to write docs =) |
| 23:32.02 | ShadoxLX | my increasing was always too high :/ |
| 23:32.04 | vhaarr | Tekkub: Did you set LoD in the Ace2 TOC? |
| 23:32.23 | Tekkub | no |
| 23:32.38 | Tekkub | I guess I could eh? |
| 23:32.44 | vhaarr | guess so, yeah |
| 23:33.00 | Tekkub | was thinging it might need to load properly, but now that I think about it it doesn't |
| 23:33.06 | ShadoxLX | hmmmmm |
| 23:33.16 | vhaarr | some people might whine, but they just need to fix their optionaldeps. |
| 23:33.29 | ShadoxLX | still getting propfind errors :| |
| 23:33.34 | Tekkub | OptDeps need to be in place anyway |
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| 23:35.11 | ShadoxLX | tortoise svn has too many noises :( |
| 23:35.24 | Tekkub | what's the error again ShadoxLX ? |
| 23:35.30 | ShadoxLX | Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/13682' |
| 23:35.31 | ShadoxLX | Error: No such revision 13682 |
| 23:35.31 | ShadoxLX | . |
| 23:35.45 | ShadoxLX | when tyring to update fubar stuff |
| 23:35.45 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13682 10Ace2/Ace2.toc: Ace2 - Now LoD |
| 23:35.47 | Tekkub | what mod? |
| 23:35.54 | Curney | im getting the same error |
| 23:36.18 | vhaarr | I'm getting it as well |
| 23:36.20 | Curney | I am trying to checkout Prat and it dies at the externals for Ace |
| 23:36.23 | vhaarr | probably some mirror? |
| 23:36.36 | Tekkub | prolly that change I just made not propigated |
| 23:36.42 | ShadoxLX | nod |
| 23:36.49 | ShadoxLX | i'll wait a few more minutes and see |
| 23:37.09 | Curney | i get it when i try to do an svn update as well |
| 23:37.09 | Tekkub | Curney.... |
| 23:37.14 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Prat |
| 23:37.23 | Tekkub | why are the module authors even listed? |
| 23:37.43 | Curney | what do you mean? |
| 23:37.45 | Tekkub | they're either Krtek, Curney, or "Prat dev team" that's the two of you |
| 23:38.01 | Tekkub | why not just credit the whole shebang to the two of you |
| 23:38.01 | ShadoxLX | lol |
| 23:38.07 | Curney | well yah.. the PDC stuff is Id's stuff that we took over |
| 23:38.28 | ShadoxLX | I forget, is prat/ID a good replacement for chatbox? |
| 23:38.32 | Curney | and ya never know someone might join the team or make another module =) |
| 23:38.36 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 23:38.39 | cladhaire | svn 4 went bad |
| 23:38.39 | Tekkub | ## Author: Krtek, Curney |
| 23:38.41 | cladhaire | i pulled ito ut |
| 23:38.45 | cladhaire | should be fixed soon |
| 23:38.48 | ShadoxLX | I'm trying to switch over to aced addons |
| 23:38.51 | Tekkub | ## X-Credits: indie, etc |
| 23:38.53 | ShadoxLX | and lower mem usage ones |
| 23:39.12 | ShadoxLX | woot works now |
| 23:39.43 | ShadoxLX | so lets see... |
| 23:39.45 | ShadoxLX | prat to replace chatbox |
| 23:39.46 | Tekkub | if someone makes a module then give them specific credit |
| 23:39.56 | Tekkub | but the PDT thing is confusing |
| 23:40.12 | Tekkub | and rather useless to list each module's author IMO |
| 23:40.12 | kergoth | heh, some of the X-Embeds are... shall we say.. a bit off. |
| 23:40.39 | Tekkub | kergoth, yea some people have "Parser-1.1" as deps too |
| 23:40.40 | Curney | okay okay when the svn thing gets fixed ill update the toc =D |
| 23:40.41 | Tekkub | :P |
| 23:40.47 | kergoth | oi |
| 23:40.47 | cladhaire | svn is fixed. |
| 23:40.50 | cladhaire | that's what i just said |
| 23:40.55 | Tekkub | Curney, I'm talking about the wiki page |
| 23:41.02 | Tekkub | the TOC is okey |
| 23:41.18 | ShadoxLX | so ummmmm |
| 23:41.25 | ShadoxLX | any check box to turn off tortoise's annoying sounds ?=P |
| 23:41.32 | BoltR | cladhaire, any chance of CIA getting updated to the svn path? |
| 23:41.44 | BoltR | new svn path* |
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| 23:41.52 | BoltR | It's still using the old one |
| 23:42.06 | Funkeh` | LoD? load on demand? |
| 23:42.21 | BoltR | (I mean for clicking the 'modified files' files) |
| 23:42.27 | kergoth | Tekkub: only downside to this lod library thing is things like compost.. one .toc for multiple major versions of the lib |
| 23:42.32 | ShadoxLX | arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh be quiet tortoise |
| 23:42.35 | kergoth | should probably fix that so they're seperate .toc's, the way fubarplugin is |
| 23:42.39 | Curney | tekkub, i have been trying to bring the wiki under control |
| 23:42.44 | vhaarr | ShadoxLX: How about opening the options dialog and turning them off, then. |
| 23:42.53 | ShadoxLX | i'm either blind and/or stupid |
| 23:42.54 | Tekkub | kerg... yea I know... but compost-1 is depreciated |
| 23:42.54 | ShadoxLX | =p |
| 23:42.56 | ShadoxLX | it's not working |
| 23:42.58 | ShadoxLX | lol |
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| 23:43.20 | Tekkub | I might do like ckk and only load the most recent major version in the standalone |
| 23:43.37 | kergoth | which is the point.. if its deprecated, i dont want it being loaded, especially if nothing uses it :) |
| 23:43.38 | kergoth | \/me nods |
| 23:43.55 | Tekkub | Curney, are you Asml8ed on the wiki? |
| 23:44.06 | Curney | yes |
| 23:44.17 | Tekkub | ... I hate people with different usernames everywhere |
| 23:44.18 | Tekkub | :P |
| 23:44.23 | Curney | if you can change the name to curney, that would be awesome |
| 23:44.36 | Tekkub | I can't, but you can just start using a new acct |
| 23:44.42 | Tekkub | and redirect the old user page |
| 23:45.16 | Tekkub | I'm redirecting it to [[User:Curney of Uther]] for now |
| 23:45.41 | Curney | my account on the forum is asml8ed too. and i cant figure out how to get a trac account |
| 23:45.53 | Tekkub | not sure with trac |
| 23:45.55 | Tekkub | clad? |
| 23:46.59 | mjc | blah |
| 23:47.02 | Curney | i want to get the prat wiki stuff down to just 2 or 3 pages |
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| 23:47.18 | Tekkub | heh, yea |
| 23:47.33 | Curney | will trac track feature todos and bugs too? |
| 23:47.44 | Curney | cause that is like 1 page that could be killed right there |
| 23:47.53 | ShadoxLX | i thought ag unit frames I think it is |
| 23:47.55 | ShadoxLX | was ace? |
| 23:47.56 | ShadoxLX | is it not? |
| 23:47.59 | Funkeh` | gn folks :) |
| 23:48.03 | Tekkub | trac is generic tickets |
| 23:48.37 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/trac/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&owner=tekkub&order=priority |
| 23:48.40 | Tekkub | not all bugs |
| 23:49.42 | ShadoxLX | 13683 is broken now :( |
| 23:49.58 | CIA-17 | 03gamefaq * r13683 10PerfectRaid/Localization.deDE.lua: Updated deDE Translation |
| 23:50.07 | ShadoxLX | ... |
| 23:50.10 | ShadoxLX | why would... |
| 23:50.18 | ShadoxLX | that error while updating OneBag |
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| 23:50.55 | Curney | trac would be great to use if krtek and i can get accounts for it. |
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| 23:50.58 | grennon | sup |
| 23:51.04 | Curney | i sent an email but it might of got swallowed up |
| 23:51.25 | mjc | Tekkub: so where's that script? :P |
| 23:51.31 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 23:51.59 | grennon | hey guys, i have a question that probably dumb about using acedb-2.0 |
| 23:52.10 | Arrowmaster | cool ToFu is broken again.... |
| 23:52.17 | vhaarr | ~seen kameril |
| 23:52.26 | purl | kameril <n=dssd@69-171-226-188.clspco.adelphia.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 13h 7m 4s ago, saying: 'if anyone cares, preview of a raid planning tool i'm working on http://sswitchdesign.net/wow/img/MA2/MA2preview.jpg i wanna compete with RDX's quill =P'. |
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| 23:53.56 | mjc | Tekkub: you wrote something to pull externals as standalones I thought |
| 23:54.00 | mjc | or am I horribly mistaken |
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| 23:54.43 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2419.msg51715#msg51715 |
| 23:54.53 | mjc | Tekkub: sorryt |
| 23:55.08 | Tekkub | if you don't use WinAceUpdater then you'll need to devise some other means of updating from the zips :) |
| 23:55.18 | CIA-17 | 03googles * r13684 10FuBar_MageFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_MageFu: Initial import |
| 23:55.33 | kergoth | magefu? |
| 23:55.40 | Funkeh` | on startup btw |
| 23:55.41 | Funkeh` | CandyBar-2.0.lua:19 CandyBar-2.0 requires PaintChips-2.0 |
| 23:55.58 | mjc | Tekkub: I mean, how does it generate the zips |
| 23:56.06 | Funkeh` | error |
| 23:56.07 | Tekkub | it doesn't |
| 23:56.10 | Funkeh` | half my addons broken ;p |
| 23:56.12 | Tekkub | they're empty folders |
| 23:56.14 | grennon | so if i do a registerdb and then a registerdefaults, will that populate the defaults? |
| 23:56.23 | Tekkub | you use it to "spoof" WAU into downloading the libs |
| 23:56.28 | mjc | Tekkub: ah. |
| 23:56.29 | grennon | to the actual savedvars file |
| 23:56.53 | Firedancer | Tekkub: If I want to use S&D to make an addon LoD using the S&D meta stuff, do I have to declare S&D as a ReqDep? |
| 23:57.06 | Tekkub | that's your choice Fire |
| 23:57.17 | CIA-17 | 03googles * r13685 10FuBar_MageFu/Libs/: FuBar_MageFu: Added externals |
| 23:57.19 | Tekkub | you might want to to make stupid users STFU |
| 23:57.32 | Tekkub | but there are other LoD stubs they might want to use |
| 23:57.51 | Goggles | hehe just noticed my SVN username is wrong :P |
| 23:58.04 | Curney | okay tekkub, i made an account to match with my svn name for consistency. =) |
| 23:58.25 | Firedancer | it's not somethign for distro...I'm just tired of constantly checking and unchecking various things for different chars. basically making the stuff I use in raids only load if I'm in a raid...otherwise sit there waiting tiL I join one |
| 23:58.36 | Tekkub | then move your user page to it and redirect the old ones there |
| 23:58.43 | Tekkub | move will put in the redirect for you |
| 23:58.47 | Curney | i did |
| 23:58.47 | ShadoxLX | what is a recommended mod for cooldown timers on action bars for bartender2? |
| 23:58.48 | Firedancer | I just didn't know ifI had to add S&D as a ReqDep or not |
| 23:59.04 | Tekkub | no dep needed, no |
| 23:59.07 | Curney | i marked a boatload of old prat pages for delete earlier this week. |
| 23:59.09 | Firedancer | okie thanks |
| 23:59.16 | kergoth | ShadoxLX: omni_cc works well |
| 23:59.21 | kergoth | for the counters on the buttons |
| 23:59.22 | Tekkub | it's just there to force my users to use it and stop telling me my mod doesn't load |
| 23:59.34 | ShadoxLX | should i grab that from wowi? it's not an ace mod, is it? |
| 23:59.35 | Firedancer | gotcha |
| 23:59.37 | mjc | kergoth: you think it would be hard to modify svkco to pull down externals to the root dir instead of to the libs dirs? or something like that |
| 23:59.38 | kergoth | alternatively you can use cooldown timer bars from oCD |
| 23:59.48 | kergoth | it isnt, omni_cc works well though |
| 23:59.51 | mjc | ShadoxLX: kergwow |
| 23:59.52 | Firedancer | no it's not, but it's well written by Tuller |
