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| 00:05.04 | DrDre | <[FH]Birdemani> Using Ace2 Standalone? |
| 00:06.07 | haste | I don't get it with Ace2 Standalone |
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| 00:06.18 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: can you try it with just Squishy? |
| 00:06.57 | nyvia | would anyone know where to get otravi_cooldown now? can't seem to grab it anywhere |
| 00:07.14 | haste | wowace.com/files/oCD ? |
| 00:07.49 | nyvia | lol gg, thanks |
| 00:08.20 | CIA-17 | 03prandur * r13204 10FuBar_TransporterFu/libs/: FuBar_TransporterFu: fixed missing Metrognome external |
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| 00:10.37 | yacoob | Just watched South Park WoW. |
| 00:10.44 | yacoob | so true :) |
| 00:11.07 | kb1ibt | askandi FTW? |
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| 00:11.58 | Sole_ | bleh dv |
| 00:11.59 | Sole_ | dc |
| 00:12.24 | yacoob | for better effect, Stan's dad should have the 10day pass, and be not able to trade... :D |
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| 00:13.41 | kb1ibt | yacoob, the sad part is i know who 1/2 of the blizzard employees are that are in the episode and have had multiple emails conversations with alteast 1 of them |
| 00:14.13 | Sole_ | whats this all about? |
| 00:14.24 | kb1ibt | the South park Wow episode |
| 00:14.33 | Sole_ | oh |
| 00:14.46 | yacoob | kb1ibt, hehe, I thought they're just 'Standard Blizz Employee' :) |
| 00:14.49 | Sole_ | can someone help me out with this: http://ace.pastebin.ca/193569 |
| 00:14.50 | yacoob | kb1ibt, tell us more :> |
| 00:15.14 | haste | Sole_: do you really need that hack anymore? |
| 00:15.39 | Sole_ | mabe |
| 00:15.46 | kb1ibt | a few are, but some of the ones in the board room are not |
| 00:16.02 | kb1ibt | like one is Rob barris (aka Tigerclaw) |
| 00:16.15 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: seeing if I can re-create it with squishy |
| 00:16.37 | Sole_ | haste: are you suggesting I just create table that contains the bar info? |
| 00:17.04 | Sole_ | ~nick Sole |
| 00:17.09 | kb1ibt | and he jokingly said that they brought video cameras in, recorded the whole thing then rotoscoped it to make it seem like it was animation |
| 00:18.03 | yacoob | kb1ibt, hrhrhrhr :D |
| 00:18.13 | yacoob | anyway, sad episode :> |
| 00:18.25 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: I'm not able to re-create it... |
| 00:18.50 | yacoob | coming back to the keylogger, anyone knows whether user had to CONFIRM the launch of unsigned activex, or did they work around it? |
| 00:18.58 | nevcairiel | Sole_: - is a special char in string.find afaik, use string.find(haystack, needle, 1, true) |
| 00:19.21 | nevcairiel | its plain searching without parsing of special chars |
| 00:19.29 | kb1ibt | yacoob, take a look here http://homepage.mac.com/kb1ibt/rob.png and here |
| 00:19.45 | alkis | anyone here familiar with the internals of AceComm? |
| 00:19.55 | kb1ibt | http://homepage.mac.com/kb1ibt/macDevs.jpg |
| 00:20.27 | [FH]Birdemani | I know a few others were able to this morning haste |
| 00:20.49 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: if you have the problem, disable all add ons and re-create it with only squishy enabled |
| 00:21.03 | [FH]Birdemani | in a raid atm, will have to try later |
| 00:21.13 | haste | for how long? |
| 00:21.20 | yacoob | kb1ibt, *gasp* :) |
| 00:21.26 | [FH]Birdemani | just wondering, does banzai use the same code? (raiding for some time we just started) |
| 00:21.43 | nevcairiel | banzai uses rosterlib, but not acecomm |
| 00:21.54 | haste | it uses the same logic as squishy does I believe |
| 00:22.10 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: I was thinking of X amounts of hours |
| 00:22.26 | haste | 'cause it's 02:18 here right now :p |
| 00:22.35 | [FH]Birdemani | we have four or five hours to go, working on saph for the first time |
| 00:22.36 | nevcairiel | you clock is wrong |
| 00:22.37 | haste | and I want to know if it's really AceComm or not |
| 00:22.39 | nevcairiel | its 02:22 |
| 00:22.39 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 00:22.52 | haste | blame uio |
| 00:23.12 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13205 10SupplyAndDemand/ (Core.lua Custom.lua Modules.lua SupplyAndDemand.toc): |
| 00:23.12 | CIA-17 | SupplyAndDemand |
| 00:23.12 | CIA-17 | - Custom module now accepts conditional functions wiht the X-S&D-CustomCondition TOC field |
| 00:23.12 | CIA-17 | - Custom module can now accept external registrations |
| 00:23.12 | CIA-17 | - Class mods now register into the custom menu instead of a class menu |
| 00:23.55 | nevcairiel | ive only noticed it with squishy myself, but not sure what other addons use acecomm, could try those and see if the bug persists |
| 00:24.25 | [FH]Birdemani | is there a list of acecomm mods? i can tell you if I have them |
| 00:24.39 | haste | I think Squishy is the only one |
| 00:25.10 | alkis | i staarted using acecomm too... but i didn't do extended testing yet |
| 00:25.32 | haste | I'm most likely using AceComm in my next add on, so I want to know :p |
| 00:25.45 | [FH]Birdemani | since i have !!libs installed would that matter? |
| 00:25.58 | alkis | it looks like GUILD distribution is not working atm (as far as i can tell) |
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| 00:26.32 | alkis | here's the guy i need to talk to now :-) |
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| 00:26.41 | nevcairiel | On another topic, i was wondering .. would it be possible to re-skin the default blizzard player and party frames to look like lets say agUF and using the build-in mechanics to save performance? |
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| 00:27.03 | haste | nevcairiel: possible, but a lot of work |
| 00:27.09 | alkis | ckknight: it seems that acecomm doesn't have GUILD distribution handling atm. is that right? |
| 00:28.10 | [FH]Birdemani | ok, have a moment here haste. just delted squishy, gonna see if i get error, then i will relog with just squishy enabled |
| 00:28.21 | nevcairiel | haste: i tried hiding the textures and stuff with tinypad a few minutes ago, but they reappeared once i left the city, guess i would need to do some hooking, or schedule a event to refresh my layout. mmm i should play with that a bit |
| 00:29.06 | ckknight | yes it does, alkis |
| 00:29.10 | [FH]Birdemani | alrighty, delted squishy and still getting the error |
| 00:29.32 | alkis | weird, then i must be doing something wrong, since i see nothing through the guild channel |
| 00:29.43 | [FH]Birdemani | like i said, I do have !!libs |
| 00:29.54 | haste | hrmf |
| 00:29.57 | haste | !!!libs is evil tho' |
| 00:30.17 | [FH]Birdemani | !!!libs takes my loading time from 25 seconds down to 12 |
| 00:30.17 | ckknight | why, haste? |
| 00:30.22 | nevcairiel | we cleaned and re-orderd libs, its not _that_ evil anymore |
| 00:30.26 | ckknight | alkis, you're not supposed to see the chat. |
| 00:30.31 | haste | really? |
| 00:30.32 | ckknight | that's not what AceComm is for. |
| 00:30.34 | [FH]Birdemani | yees |
| 00:30.46 | alkis | don't see it i mean i don't see it coming to the addon on the other machine |
| 00:30.49 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: does it happen with only !!!libs enabeld tho'? |
| 00:31.02 | alkis | but if i replace GUILD with whisper, it works |
| 00:31.03 | gnorlish | you mean "loading time" as in the first game load? |
| 00:31.10 | [FH]Birdemani | yes |
| 00:31.19 | nevcairiel | i have !!!Libs as well and i dont get any errors with anything. |
| 00:31.32 | nevcairiel | so only loading the acecomm lib doesnt break stuff |
| 00:31.51 | alkis | do you have some time to glance through some 90 lines of code? |
| 00:32.35 | [FH]Birdemani | hmm, so how am i generating this error |
| 00:32.48 | Royal | Any nice FuBar plugin reccomendations. Small usefull ones, like clock, volume and performancFu :) |
| 00:33.13 | Royal | Add a question mark to above! |
| 00:33.20 | nevcairiel | MiniClock, MiniPerfs |
| 00:33.20 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 00:33.28 | ckknight | Royal, everything in the starter pack |
| 00:34.57 | Royal | Woah what did I miss now, which starter pack :P FuBar itself doesnt have any plugins right? |
| 00:35.06 | ckknight | Royal, it's on wowi |
| 00:35.20 | ckknight | it's a pack of plugins that are useful |
| 00:35.22 | Royal | And nevcairiel, someone was mentioning that MiniPerfs was not accurate or bugged or smth |
| 00:35.24 | lacindas | nope, but ckknight made a very nice "starter pack" with some very useful plugins in it |
| 00:35.32 | Royal | I'll have a look ckknight, thanks |
| 00:35.37 | lacindas | bah ck always types faster than me :P |
| 00:35.53 | Royal | That was pretty slow typing then ^^ |
| 00:35.53 | ckknight | :-) |
| 00:36.10 | lacindas | well i was in-game, alt-tabd to see your ? ;P |
| 00:36.18 | ckknight | alright, I'm gonna go eat something |
| 00:36.20 | alkis | is pastey super slow or is my cyprus isp crapping on me? |
| 00:36.20 | lacindas | so ckk had a jumpstart on me ;P |
| 00:36.30 | alkis | ckk: http://ace.pastey.net/1389 |
| 00:38.20 | [FH]Birdemani | Haste: This is the exact error: http://ace.pastey.net/1390 |
| 00:38.58 | nevcairiel | that error is all over the forums, even one member of my guild gets it with squishy, and no one knows why :/ |
| 00:39.48 | Tekkub | WTF? http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/35 |
| 00:40.18 | haste | haha |
| 00:40.20 | kb1ibt | too much info to solve Tekkub? |
| 00:40.23 | kb1ibt | lol |
| 00:40.26 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 00:40.37 | Tekkub | yea I'm closing that bug... |
| 00:40.49 | Tekkub | "Please resubmit when you're not smoking crack" |
| 00:40.55 | kb1ibt | nice |
| 00:40.57 | Kaelten | Tekkub: hrm, I think you need to get right on that |
| 00:41.00 | Kaelten | chop chop |
| 00:41.15 | Tekkub | kael, we need to set up the ticket fields |
| 00:41.39 | Kaelten | I still don't know how |
| 00:41.57 | Tekkub | http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni |
| 00:42.01 | Tekkub | ... if it'll load... |
| 00:42.05 | Tekkub | there we go |
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| 00:48.07 | Industrial | hm can you make it so you can easily see what tickets you have? |
| 00:48.10 | Industrial | like an author field |
| 00:48.11 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:49.36 | phyber | the "my tickets" link? or is that for something else. |
| 00:49.39 | Tekkub | that already exists rtard |
| 00:49.53 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/trac/report |
| 00:49.55 | Tekkub | {8} |
| 00:50.04 | Tekkub | you just need to accept the tickets you want |
| 00:50.36 | phyber | I cleaned up a bunch of stuff on there at work earlier :) |
| 00:50.58 | Tekkub | "cleaned up" as in completed tickets? :) |
| 00:51.02 | phyber | yeah |
| 00:51.09 | Tekkub | or just fixed bad ticket titles? |
| 00:51.22 | Gohei27 | !url oRA2 |
| 00:51.23 | SVNBot | Main: http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=oRA2/ |
| 00:51.23 | SVNBot | Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/oRA2/ |
| 00:51.23 | SVNBot | Info: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/oRA2 |
| 00:51.23 | phyber | "bad externals" "externals not in zip", just the easy ones because they were irritating ;) |
| 00:51.32 | Tekkub | ah, kewl |
| 00:52.08 | Royal | Why not make FuBar plugin icons which mods are on StandBy grey out or smth |
| 00:52.47 | Royal | Or in some other visual way make clear that the mod is on standby :o |
| 00:53.24 | phyber | I find that not being able to see it anymore is a clear indication that a mod isn't active :p |
| 00:53.44 | Royal | For BigWigs or oRA you can't really tell if it's active or not |
| 00:53.48 | Royal | Untill you need it :P |
| 00:54.07 | Tekkub | BW has a tooltip that tells ou what modules are enabled |
| 00:54.33 | Royal | I mean the complete mod |
| 00:54.43 | Royal | if you suspend it, stand-by, uncheck the 'Enabled' |
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| 00:56.52 | hugo | hi |
| 00:59.10 | Tekkub | Thrae... I think I broke SVNBot |
| 00:59.18 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> !trunk Sheppard |
| 00:59.18 | Tekkub | <SVNBot> Your command is being processed. |
| 00:59.18 | Tekkub | <SVNBot> ERROR: Cannot find http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Sheppard! |
| 00:59.53 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r13206 10Sheppard/Sheppard.toc: Sheppard - TOC Tweaks |
| 01:03.37 | hugo | hey guys |
| 01:03.53 | hugo | i noticed the search button at wowace.com doesn't work at all |
| 01:04.01 | Industrial | Tekkub: oh :< |
| 01:04.01 | hugo | No such special page for any search i do |
| 01:04.17 | Tekkub | nah indie, he's working |
| 01:04.24 | Tekkub | just the error message is out of date there |
| 01:05.48 | Royal | hugo, use the search top right |
| 01:05.59 | Industrial | oi I see someone fixed idUnitWatch :o |
| 01:06.30 | hugo | top right is login / create account |
| 01:06.34 | nevcairiel | if you didnt find it yet |
| 01:06.37 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32184244&sid=1 |
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| 01:07.56 | Tekkub | -.- |
| 01:07.59 | Royal | hugo, guess im talking about a different page then, I see search top right |
| 01:08.07 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 01:08.11 | ckknight_ | blah |
| 01:08.17 | Royal | Ah hugo, log in .. |
| 01:08.20 | hugo | i talk about wowace.com |
| 01:08.55 | hugo | im telling because newcomers don't have account and then only search visible in left menu is broken |
| 01:09.06 | hugo | just leting you know |
| 01:09.22 | Royal | Go to the Forums then |
| 01:09.30 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | wtf |
| 01:09.32 | Royal | then you'll get the forum search, if thats what you want |
| 01:09.36 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | does that mean no more Pom+pyro macro etc? |
| 01:09.46 | alkis | is the error from AceComm: "Interface\FrameXML\FloatingChatFrame.lua: 476: attempt to index local `color` (a nil value) |
| 01:10.09 | nevcairiel | what that post exactly means cannot be told until we see the new functions he talks of. |
| 01:10.10 | ckknight | afaik, yes. |
| 01:10.12 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 01:10.25 | ckknight | I still need to fix that, but I can't tell where the error specifically is |
| 01:10.49 | [FH]Birdemani | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.26 | alkis | can you check this out ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/1389 in case you can spot why i am not getting GUILD msgs to work? |
| 01:12.01 | ckknight | oh, alkis, you don't receive messages from yourself. |
| 01:12.10 | alkis | i kow |
| 01:12.16 | kb1ibt | nevcairiel, he basically said all they are going to say for now since someone under an NDA leaked some information to their personal site |
| 01:12.18 | alkis | i tested it with 2 players in same guild |
| 01:12.20 | Tekkub | Unit Events |
| 01:12.20 | Tekkub | UNIT_TARGET is sent when a unit's target changes. |
| 01:12.22 | Tekkub | *grin* |
| 01:12.43 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 01:12.44 | nevcairiel | :) |
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| 01:12.55 | Tekkub | He fixed spellcast events to pass args! |
| 01:13.18 | nevcairiel | kb1ibt: i know, but at least it stops most of the rumors now. |
| 01:14.46 | Funkeh` | "ag_UnitFrames: Hrm, things work fine without anchoring the frames with StickyFrames, so lets not do it. I don't even know what it does." does this means it was fixed? :P |
| 01:14.47 | nevcairiel | Tekkub: where did you read that? |
| 01:14.47 | Tekkub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&pageNo=7 |
| 01:14.57 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 01:15.04 | Funkeh` | i heard a friend has a problme using bartender and ag at the same time, something with stickyframes |
| 01:15.24 | Tekkub | * Added a script function hooksecurefunc([table,] "function", hookfunc), which allows addons to hook secure functions without affecting the flow of execution. The hook function will be called after the secure function with the same arguments as the secure function. The return value of the hook function will be discarded. Note that this is the only safe way to hook functions that execute protected functionality. |
| 01:15.31 | Sole_ | Funkeh: yea I get that error also |
| 01:16.08 | nevcairiel | thats great |
| 01:16.19 | nevcairiel | at least we can still get information on CastSpell* events |
| 01:16.55 | Tekkub | the spellcast events pass args now |
| 01:16.58 | Cairenn | here's the full mean deal: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=31208#post31208 |
| 01:17.01 | Tekkub | so you don't need to hook them anyway |
| 01:17.09 | nevcairiel | right |
| 01:17.18 | nevcairiel | even with target |
| 01:17.20 | nevcairiel | great stuff |
| 01:17.24 | Funkeh` | sole, since i dont use bartender, could you update and check if its sitll there? ;p |
| 01:17.30 | ckknight | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3111892631393078572 |
| 01:17.56 | Kalamadi | So, wait. Are there going to be significant API changes with the coming of TBC? |
| 01:18.00 | ckknight | woot, scripts finally don't suck with arg1 as much |
| 01:18.07 | ckknight | Kalamadi, sorta. |
| 01:18.07 | Cairenn | huge, read the thread I just linked |
| 01:18.24 | ckknight | coroutines! |
| 01:18.29 | Tekkub | welp, at least it's not the doomsday everyone thought it would be |
| 01:18.38 | Tekkub | cair, go blow slou for me |
| 01:18.39 | Cairenn | nope, it isn't |
| 01:18.45 | dreyruugr | What's a good example usage of coroutines? |
| 01:18.49 | Tekkub | since I'm sure he wouldn't want me to |
| 01:18.54 | dreyruugr | i.e. where they'd be useful/necessary |
| 01:19.19 | Kalamadi | ckknight: Will most addons still be functional? Can an API documentation release be expected just before TBC? etc. |
| 01:19.26 | Cairenn | yeah, doesn't look like it's as bad as the naysayers were worrying about |
| 01:19.35 | nevcairiel | its certainly a good thing. although i can already see lots of players flame because some small addon breaks. |
| 01:19.37 | ckknight | Kalamadi, I've been fixing some. |
| 01:19.42 | Tekkub | you know, I can see the whole plan here |
| 01:19.48 | ckknight | Tekkub, oh? |
| 01:19.57 | Tekkub | he's wanted to give us more spellcast info for some time hasn't he? |
| 01:20.03 | Xuerian | Coroutines? Inside wow? 0_O |
| 01:20.13 | Tekkub | but he held it back till it wouldn't be used for automatic spell selection |
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| 01:20.35 | eternally777 | How would I go about making another dewdrop menu appear at the mouse cursor when an option is clicked in a FuBar plugin menu? |
| 01:20.41 | nevcairiel | until we cannot cast spells anyway. |
| 01:20.58 | Tekkub | honestly I'm kinda happy about this... it's gonna let us put a lot more spellcast info in front of the user, but still require him to make the selection in the end |
| 01:21.04 | kergoth | dreyruugr: wow has no coroutines. would be nice though |
| 01:21.19 | nevcairiel | Coroutines |
| 01:21.19 | nevcairiel | * The Lua 5.1 coroutine library is now available. |
| 01:21.21 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 01:21.32 | ckknight | does this break click-casting, though? |
| 01:21.39 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 01:21.40 | Tekkub | probably |
| 01:21.41 | [FH]Birdemani | someone got a link one what coroutines are? |
| 01:21.42 | ckknight | seems like it does |
| 01:21.47 | Xuerian | =| |
| 01:21.56 | Tekkub | until we find a workaround and they break that :) |
| 01:22.00 | ckknight | [FH]Birdemani, http://www.lua.org/ |
| 01:22.03 | nevcairiel | good that i never used click-casting and learned to play without |
| 01:22.10 | ckknight | Tekkub, I already thought of a workaround... |
| 01:22.15 | Tekkub | as did I ckk |
| 01:22.17 | Tekkub | :) |
| 01:22.19 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:22.21 | Tekkub | no comment tho |
| 01:22.43 | nevcairiel | you already know that its going to work until the first patch and gets fixed somehow, why even bother ? :D |
| 01:22.51 | dreyruugr | ckknight: it doesn't break click casting |
| 01:22.51 | Tekkub | I think it won't work for CC tho, cause if ya override the onclick of a frame it's gonna be non-secure |
| 01:22.56 | ckknight | dreyruugr, how doesn't it? |
| 01:22.58 | kb1ibt | the better question is will it work in the fight club |
| 01:23.19 | dreyruugr | you can set spell attributes on secure unit buttons |
| 01:23.43 | Azurewrath | mhm... it will kill mods like Detox... that alone is reason enough to vomit.. |
| 01:23.49 | Funkeh` | did ya try it out sole? ;p |
| 01:23.58 | dreyruugr | or rather, you can make a button that supports i |
| 01:24.00 | dreyruugr | t |
| 01:24.09 | dreyruugr | I believe clad already has it working |
| 01:24.13 | nevcairiel | well Azurewrath they wanted to get rid of detox-alike mods for some time now |
| 01:24.31 | kergoth | xlootmonitor is kinda nifty |
| 01:24.44 | hugo | anyone know if its possible make in ag_unitframes to show max mana/hp if i hover mouse over the bar please? |
| 01:24.54 | ckknight | Frame Metatables |
| 01:24.54 | ckknight | * Instead of a single metatable shared by all frames, each frame type has it's own metatable, for faster member function lookups. |
| 01:24.55 | ckknight | !!! |
| 01:24.57 | ckknight | yays. |
| 01:25.06 | dreyruugr | ckknight: mySecureButton:SetAttribute( "type", "spell" ) |
| 01:25.06 | Azurewrath | ya... but it sucks without.. will be extremely annoying to manually target all the raid members and hit the decurse-spellbutton... |
| 01:25.09 | ckknight | though most people don't care. |
| 01:25.16 | Tekkub | detox won't be able to select the spells anymore, no |
| 01:25.18 | dreyruugr | mySecureButton:SetAttribute( "unit", "raid15" ) |
| 01:25.31 | Tekkub | but detox can become a special unitframe :) |
| 01:25.37 | dreyruugr | mySecureButton:SetAttribute( "ctrl-spell1", "Flash Heal" ) |
| 01:25.37 | Tekkub | to "ease" decursing |
| 01:25.42 | ckknight | dreyruugr, yea, but can you make it react different based on whether you middle-click, etc? |
| 01:25.42 | ckknight | oh |
| 01:25.44 | ckknight | oh! |
| 01:25.45 | ckknight | shiny! |
| 01:25.49 | dreyruugr | mySecureButton:SetAttribute( "alt-spell1", "Cure Whatever" ) |
| 01:25.49 | Tekkub | which is what it shoulda been in the first place |
| 01:25.55 | ckknight | that is awesome |
| 01:25.59 | dreyruugr | spell1 = left button |
| 01:26.00 | ckknight | I am happy now |
| 01:26.03 | dreyruugr | spell2 = right button |
| 01:26.04 | kergoth | ckknight: sweet, thats really good news.. remember the performance tests with making frames memoize their members in their tables.. |
| 01:26.05 | ckknight | I didn't want to break click-casting |
| 01:26.05 | dreyruugr | etc... up to 5 |
| 01:26.12 | ckknight | kergoth, right. |
| 01:26.24 | Tekkub | oh kick ass |
| 01:26.29 | eternally777 | Have any hunters used FuBar_PersueFu? Someone posted on Curse-Gaming that hunter spells aren't showing up; I need to confirm they still aren't. |
| 01:26.32 | Tekkub | that mean Detox and Cork can still work |
| 01:26.34 | ckknight | though I am, from a philosophical standpoint, against Detox/Autobuff/etc |
| 01:26.37 | Tekkub | just not in one-click mode |
| 01:26.44 | dreyruugr | ckknight: they're all gone now :) |
| 01:26.48 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | ffs |
| 01:26.49 | Tekkub | which as I've said a few times, is fine by me :) |
| 01:26.52 | Azurewrath | Tekkub: imagine fights like Chromaggus as a Priest/Druid/Mage without Detox/Decursive... yes, it is doable.. but it will be SO f*cking annoying.. |
| 01:26.56 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | you need to fucking manually decurse |
| 01:26.57 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | gg |
| 01:27.00 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | will make raiding hell |
| 01:27.04 | ckknight | hrm, I'm gonna need to upgrade FuBarPlugin to allow them to be secure buttons. |
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| 01:27.12 | Tekkub | Azure: I totally advocate the need for decursing mods |
| 01:27.13 | dreyruugr | hah, you lazy bastages :) |
| 01:27.21 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | lazy? |
| 01:27.22 | Tekkub | but I don't care for one-click solutions to anything |
| 01:27.24 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | ever raided? |
| 01:27.29 | dreyruugr | Much so, yes |
| 01:27.39 | Azurewrath | lazy? Try manual decursing for 5+ hours... |
| 01:27.40 | Tekkub | I like giving the user a list of people that need something and letting them pick the ones to cure |
| 01:27.42 | nevcairiel | its perfectly possible to raid without any decursive |
| 01:27.54 | Chippen|TaE | its just not fun |
| 01:28.00 | Chippen|TaE | or well, tedius |
| 01:28.01 | ckknight | Button Scripts |
| 01:28.01 | ckknight | * In addition to OnClick, buttons now have PreClick and PostClick scripts. |
| 01:28.06 | ckknight | interesting |
| 01:28.19 | Tekkub | there's a reason Cork's tablet is more robust than the one-click script :) |
| 01:28.25 | dreyruugr | Decursing is just playing the game |
| 01:28.40 | dreyruugr | That's like saying "Try shooting arrows for 5+ hours." |
| 01:28.51 | dreyruugr | It's what you do |
| 01:28.54 | ckknight | Tekkub, can I somehow upgrade tablet so that it uses secure buttons? |
| 01:28.56 | nevcairiel | Setting an attribute is a protected function <-- you sure you can call those ? |
| 01:28.58 | Tekkub | ckk, I forsee Tablet needing a makeover here :) |
| 01:28.59 | ckknight | so that Cork'd work? |
| 01:29.03 | Tekkub | lol |
| 01:29.06 | dreyruugr | nevcairiel: yes, just not during combat |
| 01:29.09 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r13207 10FuBar_ToFu/ (ToFu.lua ToFuLocals.lua): FuBar_ToFu: Hook into oCD if it's present to add a bar for the flight. |
| 01:29.11 | Kaelten | um, guys, this is all speculation |
| 01:29.16 | Tekkub | yes, tablet's gonna need to give us access to this shit :) |
| 01:29.26 | Kaelten | or did they release something? |
| 01:29.28 | Tekkub | kael, bugger off and read the forum |
| 01:29.33 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 01:29.37 | dreyruugr | Kaelten: it's out finalll |
| 01:29.38 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: slouken been posting all night |
| 01:29.39 | Tekkub | cair, enlighten kael |
| 01:29.39 | dreyruugr | y |
| 01:29.55 | ckknight | Kaelten, Slouken opened the floodgates |
| 01:30.08 | Tekkub | kael, we get a shitload of spellcast info too |
| 01:30.11 | Tekkub | and target info |
| 01:30.19 | Tekkub | I'll be able to make PTarg event driven |
| 01:30.19 | ckknight | Auto Looting! |
| 01:30.20 | ckknight | omg |
| 01:30.24 | ckknight | Auto Looting |
| 01:30.24 | ckknight | * SetAutoLootDefault(state) |
| 01:30.24 | ckknight | * state = GetAutoLootDefault() |
| 01:30.24 | ckknight | * SetAutoLootToggleKey("SHIFT" or "CTRL" or "ALT") |
| 01:30.25 | ckknight | * key = GetAutoLootToggleKey() |
| 01:30.25 | ckknight | * down = IsAutoLootKeyDown() |
| 01:30.31 | ckknight | wait |
| 01:30.32 | ckknight | dammit |
| 01:30.32 | Tekkub | yes, autolooting :) |
| 01:30.39 | ckknight | I still can't just right-click |
| 01:30.40 | ckknight | dammit |
| 01:30.44 | ckknight | I want auto-autolooting |
| 01:30.56 | Tekkub | uh, SetAutoLootDefault(true) maybe? |
| 01:30.56 | nevcairiel | isnt autolooting in already ? only difference, you can configure and query it |
| 01:31.00 | ckknight | oh |
| 01:31.07 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:31.11 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 01:31.16 | Tekkub | I think currently it toggles on and off with the keybind |
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| 01:31.19 | ckknight | riht |
| 01:31.21 | ckknight | right* |
| 01:31.24 | ckknight | I want it to be default |
| 01:31.29 | Tekkub | as do I |
| 01:31.35 | nevcairiel | yay for rep-grinding in AV |
| 01:31.37 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 01:31.39 | Tekkub | I'll get one of my n2 keys back |
| 01:31.55 | Tekkub | but that means blizzard will need to implement 13-button actionbars for me |
| 01:32.11 | Xuerian | You mean I won't have to hook Keys, error events, mouseclicks in a specific order to pickup autolooting? 0_0 |
| 01:32.14 | ckknight | Tekkub, can't we do it ourselves? |
| 01:32.19 | ckknight | and actually |
| 01:32.24 | ckknight | Tek :-P |
| 01:32.27 | ckknight | SetBinding :-P |
| 01:32.33 | ckknight | can't it set to a spell now? |
| 01:32.50 | nevcairiel | it can |
| 01:32.55 | [FH]Birdemani | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32184244&sid=1 |
| 01:33.09 | ckknight | so you should be good, Tekkub |
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| 01:34.01 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 01:34.08 | Zeryl | is it possible to write a script to remove a buff by name? |
| 01:34.09 | ckknight | I wonder how I can abuse this... |
| 01:34.16 | Tekkub | heh |
| 01:34.20 | [FH]Birdemani | my initial reaction is that I dont like these changes but will be interesting to see what happens |
| 01:34.25 | Tekkub | yes Z |
| 01:34.27 | ckknight | I like the changes, honestly. |
| 01:34.40 | Zeryl | what is the function to remove the buff? i can work it out from there I think |
| 01:34.43 | Tekkub | me too, cause it lets us have access to a lot of info |
| 01:34.44 | Neebler | "addons and macros will no longer be capable of casting spells or targeting units." |
| 01:34.45 | ckknight | I think it's a step in the right direction |
| 01:34.47 | Neebler | holy bajebus |
| 01:34.54 | [FH]Birdemani | selfish question, can I make my ui still look like http://tinyurl.com/k9z2e in TBC |
| 01:34.56 | nevcairiel | If they release info on the new targeting functions, and those are good, yes, then its good changes. |
| 01:34.59 | ckknight | Neebler, it's not as bad as you think. don't overreact |
| 01:35.03 | [FH]Birdemani | because that as a warrior is important to me |
| 01:35.04 | Tekkub | I can see someone writing a big "what is your raid casting" mod righ t out the bat |
| 01:35.08 | kb1ibt | holy shit bachi |
| 01:35.12 | Worf | hmm... this is not good... my whole gameplay will totally break i fear |
| 01:35.14 | ckknight | Tekkub, hehe, yea. |
| 01:35.18 | ckknight | no, Worf |
| 01:35.30 | ckknight | goddamn it, I knew the unwashed masses wouldn't understand |
| 01:35.34 | Tekkub | nah worf |
| 01:35.50 | [FH]Birdemani | I was confused on the actionbar/UF line |
| 01:35.51 | Neebler | Unwashed? hey now...I took a shower 4 days ago |
| 01:35.53 | ckknight | they're adding in secure buttons for us. |
| 01:35.53 | Worf | well, you don't know how i play... but let's see |
| 01:35.55 | Tekkub | I think that they're very selectivly eliminating automatic target selection and spell selection |
| 01:36.01 | nevcairiel | ckk let them wait and be surprised that nearly everything still works :) |
| 01:36.04 | ckknight | Neebler, shakespearian reference |
| 01:36.10 | Tekkub | but still allowing us means to cast and target with user choice |
| 01:36.11 | ckknight | nevcairiel, hehe. I wonder... |
| 01:36.21 | [FH]Birdemani | so, perfect targets, squishy are broken then |
| 01:36.22 | ckknight | how can we make it so that all non-Ace mods break on TBC? |
| 01:36.29 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 01:36.41 | Worf | and my CC_Target most likely too |
| 01:36.42 | nevcairiel | get slouken to send us the infos and dont tell them :D |
| 01:36.45 | Tekkub | everything will be broken |
| 01:36.45 | ckknight | and then blame it on the changes, but Ace is awesome enough to not be affected |
| 01:36.51 | Tekkub | most all of it will be fixable |
| 01:37.03 | ckknight | I want a goddamn beta account so I can fix things |
| 01:37.05 | ckknight | blah! |
| 01:37.10 | Tekkub | we all do ckk |
| 01:37.15 | nevcairiel | public beta for addon fixage ftw |
| 01:37.19 | ckknight | and we all should get one. |
| 01:37.24 | Tekkub | I personally think there should have been a "mod contest" also |
| 01:37.25 | ckknight | at least everyone with ops right now. |
| 01:37.26 | Worf | well, i start to realize that i want a beta account too now :) |
| 01:37.32 | Tekkub | we work as much as level grinders |
| 01:37.34 | ckknight | mod contest? |
| 01:37.56 | Tekkub | but there will be a PTR of the 5.1/2.0.0 changes so we're okey I guess |
| 01:38.14 | Tekkub | you know, the shitty "levelgrind and win a beta acct" contest |
| 01:38.16 | ckknight | yea... |
| 01:38.24 | [FH]Birdemani | hahah, in saph's lair you cant see the ebb background that good |
| 01:38.42 | Worf | hmm... actually i think they did break my addons somewhen with a recent patch anyway... gotta debug stuff again |
| 01:38.44 | ckknight | well, I was really thinking that Bliz was going to fuck over all those mods |
| 01:38.45 | Tekkub | the saph strategy amuses me... |
| 01:38.46 | ckknight | and I was wrong |
| 01:38.54 | ckknight | I am once again content with Bliz |
| 01:38.55 | Tekkub | hide behind a frozen player |
| 01:38.59 | nevcairiel | i already see the fun EU PTR, big pvp battleground for all morons of europe, yay :( |
| 01:39.08 | Tekkub | it's like, Human Shield tactics |
| 01:39.15 | Worf | ckknight: so, are there some details i can read? |
| 01:39.29 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Server_Status#Latest_Update | Everyone who commits to the SVN, read and sign http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules | If chicken little tells you that the sky is falling., even if it wasn't would you still come crawling back again.. I bet you would my friend.. again and again and again and again and a... | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&sid=1&pageNo=7 |
| 01:39.41 | ckknight | link on the end |
| 01:39.45 | Tekkub | "Oh no it froze Joe.... quick hiude behind his frozen ass! |
| 01:39.59 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 01:40.06 | nevcairiel | i wish we would get to saph |
| 01:40.13 | nevcairiel | stupid 4H :( |
| 01:40.14 | phyber | ouch, mods can't target things or cast spells now? :/ |
| 01:40.29 | Tekkub | phy, read it all first |
| 01:40.31 | Tekkub | then ask |
| 01:40.34 | Tekkub | :) |
| 01:40.53 | phyber | I just read a blue ost about something. |
| 01:40.58 | phyber | different to the oen in the topic |
| 01:41.03 | Tekkub | simply put, mods can't script-wise target/cast |
| 01:41.05 | phyber | from Tyren |
| 01:41.09 | Tekkub | they're not completely broken |
| 01:41.19 | Tekkub | read the other ^topic^ |
| 01:41.26 | phyber | doing so... |
| 01:41.42 | nevcairiel | well, auto-curing will be broken, but you still will be able to get most of the stuff working again |
| 01:41.54 | haste | that's a good thing imo :3 |
| 01:41.56 | Tekkub | my guild ignored me and my "MUAHAHAHAH They're breaking Decursive!" |
| 01:42.03 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 01:42.08 | Tekkub | they hate me |
| 01:42.13 | ckknight | lol? |
| 01:42.15 | nevcairiel | for that, or before? |
| 01:42.16 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 01:42.17 | Tekkub | they're never gonna let me raid with them... |
| 01:42.20 | Tekkub | big loss |
| 01:42.20 | haste | I haven't used 'decursive' since I started on oRA :p |
| 01:42.26 | Tekkub | *shrug* |
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| 01:42.50 | Tekkub | my cat hates me too |
| 01:42.55 | nevcairiel | i use detox actually, but only the clicking units in the livelist. |
| 01:42.56 | Worf | hmmm... i did read it, but i didn't understand it. i guess i go to bed and try again tomorrow |
| 01:42.57 | haste | aaw |
| 01:43.01 | Tekkub | she's sitting on my desk glaring at me |
| 01:43.06 | Tekkub | she wants food |
| 01:43.07 | Tekkub | that's all |
| 01:43.08 | kb1ibt | heh what did you do? |
| 01:43.13 | kb1ibt | oh |
| 01:43.19 | Tekkub | she tried cute, and annoying, neither worked |
| 01:43.28 | Tekkub | now she's on hate |
| 01:43.37 | Tekkub | soon she'll resort to violence |
| 01:43.40 | Zeryl | tekkub: what is the function to remove a buff? |
| 01:43.41 | ckknight | tell your kitty not to be a player-hater |
| 01:43.44 | kb1ibt | sounds like girlfriends |
| 01:43.49 | Tekkub | Z, uh... |
| 01:44.17 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CancelPlayerBuff |
| 01:44.37 | Zeryl | heh, cancel, search for remove.... lol |
| 01:44.38 | Zeryl | thanks a ton |
| 01:44.40 | haste | (that took a quick search for 'buff' on the API list) |
| 01:44.57 | phyber | Tekkub: you'll have to explain how they're not completely broken (i don't use them, just interested), since I'm dumb tonight. |
| 01:45.11 | phyber | like other nights! :o |
| 01:45.26 | Zeryl | sorry haste, was searching for remove buff |
| 01:45.37 | ckknight | phyber, secure buttons |
| 01:46.22 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r13208 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Hook into oCB if it's present to add a bar for the flight. |
| 01:46.33 | nevcairiel | basicly i inherit a secure button, play around with the style, and i can do everything i do now? |
| 01:47.04 | ckknight | yes. |
| 01:47.05 | phyber | I'm sure I'll get it when I see it in action, for now I engage blank stare mode. |
| 01:47.22 | nevcairiel | sounds easy :) |
| 01:47.49 | phyber | what's the point of the change if you can still do these things? |
| 01:47.59 | nevcairiel | you cannot do everything |
| 01:48.07 | Tekkub | you can't make scriptwise decisions |
| 01:48.12 | nevcairiel | one-key-press addons. |
| 01:48.17 | nevcairiel | wont work |
| 01:48.18 | Tekkub | you can make a nice UI for the user to make decisions |
| 01:48.32 | Tekkub | think Cork tablet, no on-click/macro |
| 01:48.44 | Tekkub | *one-click |
| 01:48.51 | phyber | will things like Clique break with this? |
| 01:48.59 | Tekkub | forcing the users into the tablet instead of spamming a macro |
| 01:49.00 | ckknight | phyber, no |
| 01:49.05 | phyber | ah, good. |
| 01:49.05 | ckknight | partially, but not really. |
| 01:49.14 | kergoth | Kemayo: nice |
| 01:49.19 | Tekkub | you can set spell/unit properties for secure buttons |
| 01:49.22 | ckknight | well, Clique will break, but it can be fixed. |
| 01:49.23 | ckknight | sorta. |
| 01:49.25 | ckknight | kinda |
| 01:49.30 | Tekkub | mostly :) |
| 01:49.37 | dreyruugr | nevcairiel: You can't show, hide, or move secure buttons in combat |
| 01:49.39 | jaxdahl | Tekkub, how do you know how stuff is going to work? |
| 01:49.46 | dreyruugr | i.e. I'm going to miss Sprocket |
| 01:49.48 | Tekkub | oh she's trying cute and annoying together now |
| 01:49.49 | ckknight | dreyruugr, srsly? |
| 01:49.54 | dreyruugr | yes |
| 01:49.57 | Tekkub | ^topic^ |
| 01:50.08 | dreyruugr | otherwise the decursive style folks would: |
| 01:50.10 | ckknight | makes sense, mind you. |
| 01:50.13 | nevcairiel | dreyruugr: sucks if anyone joins the raid mid-fight and you want to show a new button for him :X |
| 01:50.21 | ckknight | yea. |
| 01:50.28 | dreyruugr | stack 5 action buttons, show/hide as appropriate to make clicking in the same place cast the right spell |
| 01:50.28 | mjc | Xuerian: ping0r |
| 01:50.34 | ckknight | then you'd need to make a make a queue of some sort... |
| 01:50.35 | Kalamadi | So, for instance. Squishy. TargetSquishyUnitByPriority(x) will no longer work, but we can still click on the UI? |
| 01:50.53 | dreyruugr | nevcairiel: I think the restriction is different for raid buttons |
| 01:51.04 | dreyruugr | nevcairiel: you can't reorder those manually |
| 01:51.12 | dreyruugr | but they're dynamic otherwise I'm guessing |
| 01:51.16 | dreyruugr | look at the raidgroup stuf |
| 01:51.31 | Kemayo | kergoth: thanks :) |
| 01:51.42 | nevcairiel | yea, i guess it will work |
| 01:52.05 | nevcairiel | good that i dont really need many addons to be able to play. i could use the blizzard RaidUI, but its only so damn ugly :D |
| 01:52.19 | ckknight | oSkin ftw |
| 01:52.23 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:52.30 | nevcairiel | doesnt make it that better |
| 01:52.47 | nevcairiel | i always wanted to create a addon to reskin the blizzard raidUI |
| 01:52.50 | nevcairiel | make it usable |
| 01:53.12 | haste | EasyRaid? |
| 01:53.23 | Tekkub | hrm... actually detox and cork might not work in combat |
| 01:53.25 | nevcairiel | doesnt easyraid only add functionality? |
| 01:53.28 | nevcairiel | not skinning? |
| 01:53.33 | haste | no idea :D |
| 01:53.39 | Tekkub | but you can move to CC decursing with PRaid |
| 01:53.40 | nevcairiel | i checked it once |
| 01:53.44 | Xuerian | mjc: Pong |
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| 01:53.51 | Tekkub | and Cork's mostly a out of combat mod anyway |
| 01:53.54 | Xuerian | (It's b0rked, I know) |
| 01:53.58 | mjc | Xuerian: when I move the xlm around by dragging it doesn't release the mouse |
| 01:54.16 | ckknight | Cork's a buffer, not a debuffer |
| 01:54.17 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:54.21 | ckknight | really.. |
| 01:54.24 | Xuerian | o_O |
| 01:54.28 | Tekkub | I know |
| 01:54.42 | Tekkub | but detox won't be able to show/hide it's elements |
| 01:54.58 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:55.00 | Tekkub | so yea... you're forced to show that info on static unit frames |
| 01:55.00 | ckknight | oh hell |
| 01:55.00 | mjc | Xuerian: this is the release before you added the slash command |
| 01:55.07 | ckknight | and neither will Dewdrop/Tablet |
| 01:55.15 | Tekkub | not in-combat, no |
| 01:55.19 | ckknight | gah |
| 01:55.35 | Tekkub | so detox is borked, Cork is becoming an out-of-combat mod |
| 01:55.54 | kb1ibt | what about changing the alpha values? |
| 01:55.55 | ckknight | wait, so can it show/hide non-secure buttons OOC? |
| 01:56.13 | Xuerian | mjc: I didn't change the mouse movement code in that revision, I'll look at it right now |
| 01:56.17 | Tekkub | |
| 01:56.17 | Tekkub | Default |
| 01:56.17 | Tekkub | Coroutines |
| 01:56.17 | Tekkub | * The Lua 5.1 coroutine library is now available. |
| 01:56.17 | Tekkub | * Each coroutine creates a new Lua state, so they should be used sparingly to reduce memory usage. |
| 01:56.18 | Tekkub | Protected Functions |
| 01:56.20 | Tekkub | * Addons and macro scripts may not use any movement, spell casting, or targeting functions. They also may not complete a trade transaction. |
| 01:56.23 | Tekkub | * Addons and macro scripts may only change macros, key bindings, and action buttons while you are not in combat. |
| 01:56.26 | Tekkub | * Action buttons and targeting frames are "protected", and may not be programmatically moved, shown or hidden, or have their action changed while in combat. |
| 01:56.29 | Tekkub | * SecureActionButtonTemplate, protected, uses attribute "type", which can be one of "action", "pet", "spell", "item", "target", "focus", and "menu", and uses an optional attribute "unit" |
| 01:56.40 | Tekkub | gack |
| 01:56.45 | Tekkub | pasted more than I meant to |
| 01:56.49 | ckknight | alright |
| 01:56.51 | ckknight | we're still okay |
| 01:56.51 | *** part/#wowace Zeryl (i=Zeryl@75-132-127-218.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 01:56.55 | ckknight | non-secure buttons can be changed |
| 01:56.56 | Tekkub | templates == protected |
| 01:57.01 | Industrial | if thats whats going to happen |
| 01:57.02 | ckknight | which means that Dewdrop/Tablet isn't fucked |
| 01:57.07 | Industrial | im going to quit wow |
| 01:57.14 | Tekkub | no, it's just detox can't clickcast |
| 01:57.14 | ckknight | have fun, Indie |
| 01:57.21 | Tekkub | it can still show needs |
| 01:57.31 | Tekkub | and cork will work OOC |
| 01:57.40 | ckknight | right. |
| 01:57.49 | *** join/#wowace Fahlen (n=teh0mega@c-67-189-119-194.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 01:57.51 | Tekkub | basically any targetting/casting UI is locked when you enter combat |
| 01:57.53 | jaxdahl | will i be able to click a player showing up on detox to target them? |
| 01:58.02 | Tekkub | no |
| 01:58.06 | jaxdahl | why not? |
| 01:58.12 | Tekkub | detox won't be able to target or cast |
| 01:58.20 | Tekkub | because it won't be possible |
| 01:58.35 | [FH]Birdemani | so perfect targets will only show a list, you cant interact. |
| 01:58.40 | [FH]Birdemani | odd decision for that |
| 01:58.52 | Tekkub | yea, but ptarg's list is gonna be better :) |
| 01:58.59 | [FH]Birdemani | how so? |
| 01:59.21 | Tekkub | it'll be event driven |
| 01:59.22 | Kebinusan | wow thats kinda lame |
| 01:59.30 | jaxdahl | so i can't have a list of players that is highlighted when a debuff is on them that i can cure and click the player to target them????? |
| 01:59.37 | jaxdahl | perfectraid won't work? |
| 01:59.46 | ckknight | debuffing mods won't really work. |
| 01:59.54 | nevcairiel | you can of course target the players in a raidframe |
| 01:59.55 | Tekkub | okey, sick of answering the same fucking questions over and over |
| 01:59.58 | jaxdahl | screw this i'm out of here |
| 02:00.00 | *** part/#wowace jaxdahl (i=Ov@cpe-70-113-55-44.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 02:00.01 | [FH]Birdemani | how will MT windows work then? you can just look at them but cant assist by clicking |
| 02:00.01 | nevcairiel | but the raidframe wont be able to sort them |
| 02:00.27 | Tekkub | maittank frames will work |
| 02:00.35 | Funkeh` | whats this? 2.0 lua changes? |
| 02:00.40 | Xuerian | [FH]Birdemani: The way it looks to me is that for example, if the MT's are setup before combat, they'll work. Not sure about their targets...? |
| 02:00.40 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 02:00.44 | Tain | I love my new DVD burner, I picked up some Lightscribe blank DVDs and you flip them over and use the burner to burn a label right onto the DVD. |
| 02:00.45 | Funkeh` | shiiit :9 |
| 02:00.48 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 02:00.51 | Funkeh` | their true? |
| 02:00.57 | nevcairiel | why does everybody complain first ? |
| 02:00.58 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 02:01.01 | Funkeh` | i mean some link of evidence anywhere? |
| 02:01.14 | nevcairiel | topic. |
| 02:01.15 | kb1ibt | Funkeh`, read the topic |
| 02:01.18 | Tekkub | lightscribe looks neat, too bad I never burn discs anymore |
| 02:01.23 | *** part/#wowace Funkeh` (n=email@host81-157-50-64.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 02:01.23 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=email@host81-157-50-64.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 02:01.26 | phyber | nevcairiel: because they pull this shit out of their ass and call it an improvement? :/ |
| 02:01.37 | Tekkub | maybe there'll be a cheap LS burner at the computer thing this weekend |
| 02:01.42 | Tekkub | thanks ffor the idea :) |
| 02:02.41 | kb1ibt | phyber, they never intended for what was created, and they have been trying to "level" the playing feild for a while so they decided screw fixing it in live and kill it in TBC |
| 02:02.41 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 02:02.41 | Kebinusan | Tekkub, where is that list from |
| 02:02.42 | phyber | meh, just see how it is when the expansion hits i guess. just sounds really crappy is all :/ |
| 02:02.47 | Tain | Tekkub I got it specifically to make.. ah.. backups.. of DVDs that I legally own. For a short period of time befor eI send them back to Netflix. |
| 02:02.53 | Tekkub | maybe PRaid should get a basic ToT frame for every unit |
| 02:03.02 | Tekkub | and highlight the first unique ones :) |
| 02:03.02 | nevcairiel | phyber: except of one-key-curing nothing i use will really break. so what. and i tried to get away from one-key-curing anyway, only its kinda hard in some fights to resist simply pushing that button :D |
| 02:03.29 | Tekkub | tain, yea I hear you *puts finger on nose and winks* |
| 02:03.43 | ckknight | classtime |
| 02:03.48 | Tekkub | okey, shopping list is now, cheap memory, cheap HDDs, Lightscribe burner |
| 02:04.00 | Tekkub | I'm sick of labels anyway, just basic text would rock |
| 02:04.05 | Fahlen | I'm sorry to interrupt the conversation, but I'm a hunter using Bartender2, does anyone know how I could get the little Pet Happiness icon to show up, or somehow see what happiness my pet is at? |
| 02:04.18 | Tekkub | nothing fancy, but it'd help when the hubby gets his hands on my discs |
| 02:04.20 | Tain | I actually got this burner for I think $50, hell I don't even remember. Couldn't have been more. |
| 02:04.23 | Tekkub | I don't know what's what |
| 02:04.30 | Tekkub | he just leaves them wherever |
| 02:04.35 | nevcairiel | doesnt the UnitFrame handle the happiness? |
| 02:04.39 | nevcairiel | not the action bar addon ? :D |
| 02:05.14 | kb1ibt | the UF should but i have seen atleast one petfeeder mod that pulls the happiness value on it's own |
| 02:05.24 | phyber | nevcairiel: I don't one key play by a long shot, but it worries me when clad is saying "clique can be fixed, well, kinda, sorta." as if clique makes you imba because you didn't have to press a number or click the actionbar first? |
| 02:05.56 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i dont use any click casting |
| 02:06.00 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 02:06.01 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.01 | Funkeh` | /stopcasting |
| 02:06.01 | Funkeh` | This slash command can be used in macros to stop casting the current spell |
| 02:06.08 | Funkeh` | did they run out of ideas? |
| 02:06.57 | Fahlen | nevcairiel: It's not on any of the different unitframes :( |
| 02:07.16 | nevcairiel | bartender2 doesnt do anything with the happyness |
| 02:07.22 | nevcairiel | only with your buttons |
| 02:07.30 | Fahlen | err |
| 02:07.31 | Fahlen | haha |
| 02:07.35 | Fahlen | sorry, ag_Unitframes |
| 02:07.39 | nevcairiel | heh. |
| 02:07.41 | kb1ibt | lol |
| 02:07.42 | Azurewrath | mhm... after thinking about it a while... they should just implent the functionality instead of killing it... i know absolutely noone who raids without detox or decursive (not counting warriors, hunters, rogues and some warlocks...) |
| 02:07.48 | pastamancer | aguf colors the pets hp bar based on happiness |
| 02:08.01 | Fahlen | Really? |
| 02:08.12 | pastamancer | there's also a custom tag or two that can show it |
| 02:08.15 | pastamancer | really really |
| 02:08.23 | dreyruugr | Azurewrath: after TBC ships I'm going to know a lot of people who raid without it |
| 02:08.25 | Tekkub | Az, they're adding AoE decurses |
| 02:08.36 | pastamancer | green = really happy, yellow = soso, red = feed me now |
| 02:08.38 | Tekkub | think that's a decent compromise |
| 02:08.38 | Fahlen | pastamancer: Thanks, I didn't know that! |
| 02:08.54 | nevcairiel | Tekkub: only for stupid priests tho :( |
| 02:08.55 | phyber | AoE decurse sounds reasonable. |
| 02:09.11 | Tekkub | *digs up the new spell pages* |
| 02:09.14 | pastamancer | I should add it to the FAQ |
| 02:09.42 | phyber | only for priests? haha, as if they're not already busy spam healing the MT because of the DPS zerg bosses these days |
| 02:10.28 | Azurewrath | ya.. same with druids and shamen.. it'll be a real pita for them.. |
| 02:10.42 | Xuerian | Them = Me. |
| 02:10.54 | Xuerian | manner. blah :P |
| 02:10.57 | kb1ibt | getglobal("PET_HAPPINESS"..happiness); |
| 02:10.59 | nevcairiel | ,maybe its only magic debuffs in TBC and druids wont have to dispel the whole raid |
| 02:10.59 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 02:11.19 | Tekkub | ah yea It's only listed fro priests... but there's nowhere that says those pages list all the new spells |
| 02:11.23 | Xuerian | Haha, winning Nev |
| 02:11.28 | Tekkub | I wouldn't put it past blizzard to just name a few |
| 02:11.44 | nevcairiel | hm yea |
| 02:11.46 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 02:12.04 | nevcairiel | maybe hunter get it =P |
| 02:12.05 | Tekkub | I can see the raid design now... |
| 02:12.25 | kb1ibt | wtf? hunters get what |
| 02:12.28 | Tekkub | debuff cause players to repel each other, so you can't group up for a mass dispel |
| 02:12.33 | eternally777 | preists will have that AoE dispel though |
| 02:13.03 | Azurewrath | best solution to hunters would be to give tranq shot to another class and delete all of them :p |
| 02:13.08 | mjc | Xuerian: any ideas? |
| 02:13.10 | alkis | at least this will increase required skill lvl for healing classes :-p |
| 02:13.15 | mjc | also oRA2's cooldown stuff is b0rked |
| 02:13.19 | Tekkub | delete, no |
| 02:13.21 | Xuerian | Sorry, been holding my guild's hand as they scream collectively |
| 02:13.25 | Tekkub | free reroll at 60 |
| 02:13.28 | mjc | Xuerian: it's ok |
| 02:13.29 | Tekkub | I want to be a priest |
| 02:13.31 | Xuerian | One actually liked the changes, but I'm disowning him as a guildmate |
| 02:13.39 | nevcairiel | lots of debuffs have an on-dispel effect ( the player castable ones ) maybe mobs get that as well much more |
| 02:13.53 | Azurewrath | Xuerian: let me guess.. rogue, warrior or hunter? |
| 02:14.01 | Tekkub | on dispel? |
| 02:14.12 | Tekkub | like so people won't decurse in PvP? |
| 02:14.12 | kb1ibt | Azurewrath, quit hating on the hunters |
| 02:14.12 | nevcairiel | alkis: they should require more skill of the dps classes, those are the stupid guys. |
| 02:14.32 | Xuerian | Haha, no, our second-in-goodies priest, in fact |
| 02:14.36 | alkis | the only skill that healers require today is healing rotation |
| 02:14.43 | kb1ibt | lol |
| 02:14.52 | alkis | it takes no skill to spam detox in debuffing |
| 02:14.58 | Arrowmaster | theres only one debuff with an ondispel effect, not 'lots' |
| 02:15.03 | Tekkub | I really never considered myself a healer |
| 02:15.13 | Tekkub | I'm more of the person who chooses who dies |
| 02:15.18 | nevcairiel | it requires even less skill casting one or two dmg spells all the time. |
| 02:15.20 | alkis | hahaha tekkub |
| 02:15.30 | Xuerian | rofl. |
| 02:15.32 | trollied | I'm going to respec as an auction NPC |
| 02:15.34 | alkis | it is true though |
| 02:15.45 | Tekkub | I could be an AH NPC very easily |
| 02:15.52 | Tekkub | I spend most of my time at the darny ah |
| 02:15.55 | Xuerian | mjc: Looking now |
| 02:15.58 | Tekkub | I'm there no |
| 02:15.59 | mjc | thanks. :) |
| 02:16.02 | Tekkub | *now |
| 02:16.14 | Xuerian | mjc: Dragging the anchor or loot itself? |
| 02:16.40 | alkis | not to mention that detox not working will require a bit more skill for mages :-p |
| 02:17.00 | alkis | which spam frostbolt all night long... no offence to mages here... but it is true :-p |
| 02:17.01 | nevcairiel | as if mages actually decurse, only when you threaten them with raid-removal and such =P |
| 02:17.29 | Xuerian | One of the loudest outcries was from a mage, in my guild, haha |
| 02:17.30 | Azurewrath | i do decurse, and i play a mage. :p |
| 02:17.32 | Tekkub | our mage lead wanted me to make her a mod to track who decurses |
| 02:17.33 | nevcairiel | decursing doesnt get them up on the dps-meter |
| 02:17.42 | alkis | use WWS tekkub |
| 02:17.50 | Tekkub | instead I gave everyone in the guild a macro to use when they arethe bomb... /follow Misstaken |
| 02:17.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 02:18.00 | Tekkub | she hates me now |
| 02:18.01 | Xuerian | rofl |
| 02:18.13 | alkis | rofl |
| 02:18.19 | Tekkub | the running guild rule is noone gets loot till miss dies |
| 02:18.32 | mjc | the loot itself |
| 02:18.35 | nevcairiel | one of our warriors was afk today when we pulled geddon, guess where the new bombing place was :) |
| 02:18.38 | mjc | I can't get the anchor to show on this version |
| 02:18.53 | Xuerian | Ahh, hm |
| 02:19.00 | Tain | I've never been the bomb. :( |
| 02:19.14 | Azurewrath | sure it needs no skill to smash a button.. it needs no skill to select someone from my raidframes and smash the same button either... it's just much more annoying.. the only thing i would consider skill for mages is doing max dps without pulling aggro. |
| 02:19.19 | Tekkub | I just realzied, slouken still hasn't allowed us to change LootFX to something more visible |
| 02:19.23 | Tekkub | *whimper* |
| 02:19.33 | Xuerian | mjc: I fixed something minor with moving, I'll tryan fix stacking/fading then make a commit with the change |
| 02:19.35 | Tain | I would nuke the guild. There's no doubt in my mind it would be worth it. |
| 02:19.38 | Xuerian | LootFX? o_0 |
| 02:19.40 | mjc | ok |
| 02:19.49 | Tekkub | yes, the loot "sparkley" model |
| 02:19.58 | Xuerian | Ahhhh |
| 02:20.01 | mjc | Xuerian: it only screws up during fade |
| 02:20.06 | Tekkub | I used to use a big decurse swirly, it was very visible |
| 02:20.16 | Arrowmaster | the one that looks exactly like certain totem effects! |
| 02:20.28 | Tekkub | dunno |
| 02:20.35 | Xuerian | mjc: Ah, hm.... This could be interesting to fix |
| 02:20.37 | Tekkub | it looks like a spiral |
| 02:20.43 | Sole_ | how do I check if a table is empty? if getn(table) == 0 doesnt seem to do it |
| 02:20.49 | Tekkub | gets smaller as it goes up, then drops str8 down |
| 02:21.02 | mjc | Xuerian: if it's being moved don't fade? |
| 02:21.24 | Xuerian | mjc: haha, that makes more sense than if it's being faded, don't move |
| 02:21.24 | Arrowmaster | ok i dont get wtf this "Unit Focus" stuff is suppost to be? anybody else |
| 02:21.41 | Tekkub | I think that "blue hand" cursor |
| 02:21.45 | pastamancer | Arrowmaster: it lets you save a target and instantly snap back to it |
| 02:21.49 | Tekkub | lets you decide what it should focus on |
| 02:22.18 | Tekkub | oh |
| 02:22.25 | Tekkub | it's like an assist unitid isn't it? |
| 02:22.28 | pastamancer | yeah |
| 02:22.34 | pastamancer | that's what it sounded like |
| 02:23.03 | Arrowmaster | they better fucking give us more macro slots if they think people are going to be able to play this game with mods not being able to cast spells or target units using lua |
| 02:23.03 | pastamancer | you'd /focus Thetank |
| 02:23.03 | alkis | crap... there goes my chance to find what i am doing wrong or what AceComm does wrong... |
| 02:23.03 | pastamancer | and target whatever |
| 02:23.28 | pastamancer | and then TargetUnit("focus") would point you back at Thetank |
| 02:23.29 | Tekkub | arrow, they're really just pushing people/mods into clickcasting |
| 02:23.35 | alkis | anyone with a AceComm experience sending msgs to GUILD? |
| 02:23.58 | Tekkub | will this "focus" work on hostile targets ? |
| 02:24.06 | Tekkub | like target, not like raid2target |
| 02:25.25 | Sole_ | where are you guys reading about this focus stuff? |
| 02:25.30 | Sole_ | Im curious to find out wtf it is |
| 02:25.38 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6447 |
| 02:25.39 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&sid=1&pageNo=8 |
| 02:25.40 | alkis | Tekkub: used AceComm at all? |
| 02:25.47 | Sole_ | ty |
| 02:26.24 | Tekkub | no |
| 02:26.29 | kergoth | Kemayo: hmm, oCD for fubar_tofu isnt too bad, but your commit log said oCB :) |
| 02:26.35 | alkis | :-( |
| 02:26.36 | kergoth | either way at least its has a bar now |
| 02:26.43 | alkis | that's probably the least used Ace lib... |
| 02:27.25 | Sole_ | amg so much info to absorb :( |
| 02:29.26 | Arrowmaster | "Action buttons and targeting frames are "protected", and may not be programmatically moved, shown or hidden, or have their action changed while in combat." does that mean even if you have all the raid frames displayed and had a click casting for say "dispell" you would need a completely different button to click for "abolish disease" on a priest? |
| 02:31.55 | Arrowmaster | looks like pally are going to become the default curers since everybody else will need multiple keybinding to remove debuffs |
| 02:32.28 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 02:32.44 | Kalamadi | Arrowmaster: As if they're not already? |
| 02:33.02 | Arrowmaster | they arent right now for horde |
| 02:33.24 | *** join/#wowace calz (n=calz@210-86-64-168.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 02:33.32 | calz | !url oRA2 |
| 02:33.32 | SVNBot | Main: http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=oRA2/ |
| 02:33.32 | SVNBot | Alt: http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/oRA2/ |
| 02:33.32 | SVNBot | Info: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/oRA2 |
| 02:33.46 | Tekkub | every time the one manager at work pisses me off, I imagine that "Toad Explosion" spell |
| 02:33.49 | Tekkub | it makes me happy |
| 02:33.52 | pastamancer | hmm, I'm guessing you won't be able to change the unit a frame points to while in combat either |
| 02:34.00 | Tekkub | no |
| 02:34.05 | Tekkub | it doesn't appear so |
| 02:34.20 | Tekkub | protected UI frames will lock when you go in combat |
| 02:34.24 | pastamancer | poor squishy :( |
| 02:34.25 | Xuerian | The question is, will you be able to call (for psudo example) "ActivateSecureButton(id)" ? |
| 02:34.58 | calz | !url sctd |
| 02:35.01 | kergoth | Kemayo: oh, dont mind me, i'm blind :) |
| 02:35.05 | Tekkub | squishy and detox will be info-only in combat :P |
| 02:35.06 | kergoth | Kemayo: nice job with tofu |
| 02:35.46 | pastamancer | I was going to work on rdx-ish filterable, sortable raid frame code to potentially hack into aguf |
| 02:36.08 | Arrowmaster | im betting that the unit focus thingy will also be protected and not callable from addons |
| 02:36.17 | pastamancer | but there's no point if I can't modify the frame groups in-combat |
| 02:38.51 | pastamancer | I'll probably just scale-back my design |
| 02:39.26 | Neebler | http://razorgator.ytmnd.com/ |
| 02:39.27 | Neebler | best song ever |
| 02:40.26 | Kalamadi | Mreh. If these changes go through, I've really lost my interest in playing. Nothing like staring at 25 healthbars to raise my blood pressure. |
| 02:40.45 | alkis | is there an easy way to get something off the web from a lua script? |
| 02:42.30 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:45.26 | Tekkub | curl! |
| 02:45.45 | CIA-17 | 03krtek * r13209 10Prat/: Prat : deleting the actual Prat to commit the One Directory version |
| 02:45.50 | Tekkub | alkis, http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PeriodicTable_DataMiner/ |
| 02:46.05 | Tekkub | I use that to mine data from alla for PTable |
| 02:46.07 | Tekkub | it's lua |
| 02:46.25 | Tekkub | I run it on my linux box, of coures |
| 02:47.10 | Tekkub | oh, and "focus" can be used to save a sheep target, and even give it a unitframe if we wanted to |
| 02:47.11 | CIA-17 | 03krtek * r13211 10Prat/libs/: Prat : externals |
| 02:47.16 | Tekkub | I love slow ken :) |
| 02:47.38 | *** join/#wowace krtek (n=krtek@dhcp-83-219-107-102.customers.tvtnet.ch) |
| 02:48.06 | krtek | Hi |
| 02:49.32 | Kemayo | kergoth: My commit log was very repetitive. :) |
| 02:49.36 | alkis | Tekkub i want to do that through an addon :-/ |
| 02:50.06 | Tekkub | can't in an addon |
| 02:50.11 | alkis | and putting curl for mac/windows is not going to be fun i guess |
| 02:50.12 | Tekkub | and oh oh oh |
| 02:50.19 | Tekkub | I have my first 2.0.0 mod planned |
| 02:50.29 | Tekkub | a focus setting mod.. anme it "Focal Point" |
| 02:50.29 | kergoth | Kemayo: hehe |
| 02:50.58 | Arrowmaster | ill bet you cant touch the focus settings from an addon |
| 02:51.01 | Arrowmaster | macro only |
| 02:51.32 | Arrowmaster | otherwise you could do everything thats currently possilbe again |
| 02:51.46 | Tekkub | I personally bet it'll lock on combat |
| 02:51.47 | CIA-17 | 03krtek * r13212 10Prat_Buttons/: Prat_X : deleting modules folder since there is now in main Prat folder |
| 02:51.59 | Tekkub | so you set your assist or your tank or your sheep and you're locked |
| 02:52.07 | Arrowmaster | the focus target? or the ability to change it from an addon? |
| 02:52.20 | Tekkub | the target itsself |
| 02:52.20 | CIA-17 | 03krtek * r13213 10Prat_ChannelNames/: Prat_X : deleting modules folder since there is now in main Prat folder |
| 02:52.31 | Tekkub | I bet you'll be able to set it scriptwise OOC |
| 02:52.44 | CIA-17 | 03krtek * r13214 10Prat_ChannelsSeparator/: Prat_X : deleting modules folder since there is now in main Prat folder |
| 02:52.59 | krtek | Sorry for spam ^^ but this is the last time ... lol |
| 02:53.01 | Tekkub | "There is also a "focus" action in the secure action button template" |
| 02:53.10 | Arrowmaster | nah theres a /focus macro command, they wouldnt add that and make it not usable in combat |
| 02:53.10 | CIA-17 | 03krtek * r13215 10Prat_ChatLink/: Prat_X : deleting modules folder since there is now in main Prat folder |
| 02:53.11 | mjc | krtek: please do those all in one commit. |
| 02:53.31 | Tekkub | you finally see the light that prat should be modules not plugins? |
| 02:53.37 | krtek | mjc: I think I can't since I haven't all the trunk in my local working copy |
| 02:53.41 | Tekkub | or a mix of both like BigWigs |
| 02:53.49 | mjc | krtek: would you like me to do it? |
| 02:54.10 | krtek | mjc: yes I you want, just keep the Prat and Prat_FuBar2 folders :) |
| 02:54.14 | mjc | k |
| 02:54.15 | krtek | *if |
| 02:54.48 | krtek | Tekkub: only Curney want to keep the old structure, for me it was equal ^^ |
| 02:54.54 | mjc | give me 2mins :) |
| 02:54.57 | Kemayo | Regarding Prat: Finally! |
| 02:55.01 | krtek | mjc: ok :) thanks |
| 02:55.12 | mjc | checking it out from my local svk cache |
| 02:55.15 | Tekkub | really you could make external plugins still work easily enough |
| 02:55.26 | Tekkub | it took some slight init changes in BigWigs was all |
| 02:55.38 | krtek | Kemayo: have fun :D |
| 02:57.57 | alkis | Tekkub: how do i make another tooltip frame ala BigWigs version query? i can't really understand what is going on in BigWigs there :-) |
| 02:58.18 | Tekkub | not my code, I don't know either |
| 02:58.25 | alkis | :-) |
| 02:59.00 | mjc | crap, my cached version is of svn.wowace |
| 02:59.49 | [FH]Birdemani | heh, i had fun tonight forcing all raid members to upgrade bigwigs tonight. had commits as old as 9100 |
| 02:59.54 | mjc | svk mirror --relocate ftw |
| 02:59.57 | eternally777 | Has anyone ever used Advanced Trade Skill Window? |
| 03:00.27 | mjc | shit |
| 03:00.30 | mjc | cladhaire: ping |
| 03:00.57 | Industrial | SLASH_PRINT1 = '/print' |
| 03:00.58 | Industrial | SlashCmdList['PRINT'] = function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage(arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9) end |
| 03:01.02 | Industrial | always wanted to do that |
| 03:01.17 | krtek | mjc: Wait, I think I can make more than just one delete at a time.. I'll try |
| 03:04.37 | CIA-17 | 03krtek * r13216 10/trunk/ (13 files in 13 dirs): Prat_X : deleting modules folder since there is now in main Prat folder |
| 03:04.53 | krtek | mjc: ok, all folders are deleted :) |
| 03:04.58 | mjc | yay. |
| 03:05.00 | mjc | thanks :) |
| 03:05.09 | Kemayo | krtek: You missed _Justify. |
| 03:05.20 | krtek | Kemayo: I just noticed that :( |
| 03:06.03 | CIA-17 | 03krtek * r13217 10Prat_Justify/: Prat_Justify : deleting modules folder since there is now in main Prat folder (sorry for spam ^^) |
| 03:07.20 | Funkeh` | im kinda intreagued my the new 2.0 changes, id like to see how addon authors respond and recode, and what kind of new addons pop up |
| 03:07.48 | FISKER | As such, addons and macros will no longer be capable of casting spells or targeting units. |
| 03:07.49 | FISKER | :( |
| 03:08.02 | FISKER | tyren, the bringer of the plague |
| 03:08.26 | Funkeh` | yeah but overall we will adjust, we will ahve to and over time it will be np, still im interested in how it works out |
| 03:08.57 | Funkeh` | i hope some of those shitty addons(not naming) get broken -.- |
| 03:08.59 | FISKER | kinda removes the purpose with macros though |
| 03:09.10 | cladhaire | mjc: huh? |
| 03:09.22 | cladhaire | FISKER: What changes? |
| 03:09.24 | Xuerian | I'm not asking a question, just making a simple statement, don't jump me >_>: So long as Click Casting (Of pre-assigned spells, not dynamically chosen ones) works, I'll be fine. |
| 03:09.32 | mjc | cladhaire: I forgot my password to dev. it's stored in my cache ors omething :P |
| 03:09.53 | FISKER | cladhaire they'll remove spellcasting and targetting in scripting and macros |
| 03:09.59 | cladhaire | FISKER: link? |
| 03:10.08 | cladhaire | Or is it the leak from earlier today |
| 03:10.09 | FISKER | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32184244&sid=1 |
| 03:10.16 | Xuerian | It's a leak no more o_0 |
| 03:10.18 | cladhaire | mjc: give me a moment. |
| 03:10.24 | mjc | sure. |
| 03:10.40 | cladhaire | Meh, I'll wait to see the code |
| 03:10.43 | cladhaire | speculating now won't help |
| 03:11.04 | Funkeh` | yeas an advantage as it is im not bothered, i used to play vanilla wow fine, addons jsut make evrything a luxury, its like being stranded on a desert island with only those thingsa you need to survive |
| 03:11.21 | Tekkub | clad, I think PTarg is gonna become a PRaid ToT :) |
| 03:11.28 | Funkeh` | fogive my spelling :) |
| 03:11.30 | cladhaire | Tekkub: After BC, thats fine. |
| 03:11.37 | Tekkub | well, PTarg will still exist, but info-only |
| 03:11.46 | Tekkub | and yes, after |
| 03:11.47 | Xuerian | Praid ToT... Mmmm... |
| 03:11.53 | Cairenn | FISKER: link the full meal deal, instead of the partial that is causing mass hysteria |
| 03:11.54 | Cairenn | http://tinyurl.com/j5trf |
| 03:12.08 | Tekkub | I envision that each unique target will be highlighted once |
| 03:12.14 | Tekkub | and the dups dimmed out :) |
| 03:12.16 | FISKER | i did link the full "meal deal? :o" |
| 03:12.26 | Tekkub | for hostiles at least |
| 03:12.51 | FISKER | ah |
| 03:12.59 | FISKER | slouken also posted something about it :) |
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| 03:14.48 | Cairenn | FISKER: precisely |
| 03:15.25 | Kemayo | I almost had to force myself to actually *learn* that Robes of Arcana pattern. The thought of 15-18g on the AH tempted me so. |
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| 03:16.27 | phyber | took me two days to grind that pattern |
| 03:16.32 | phyber | it was worth it |
| 03:16.36 | PProvost | hello all |
| 03:17.26 | Kemayo | It dropped off the first thing I killed in that tower. On my *second* day there. ;_; |
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| 03:18.05 | Ghent | Evening all :) |
| 03:18.08 | FISKER | It's ok that they try to remove the auto-raid-heal stuff that's going on right now, but it's gonna be a pain in the ass to lose decursive and some of the simpler macros :( |
| 03:18.35 | mjc | cladhaire: sorry for the huge checkout but svk rocks :p |
| 03:20.45 | Ghent | Anyone mind if I fire off a quick question about an error? |
| 03:21.12 | mjc | just ask, don't ask to ask |
| 03:21.29 | Ghent | Alright, just tryin to be polite :p |
| 03:21.30 | Ghent | JackKnife.lua:203: ambiguous syntax (function call x new statement) near `(' |
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| 03:21.47 | Ghent | Anyone have any pointers? |
| 03:21.54 | PProvost | ~seen Mikma |
| 03:22.17 | purl | mikma is currently on #wowi-lounge (3d 18h 21m) #wowace (3d 18h 21m). Has said a total of 3790 messages. Is idling for 4h 11m 37s, last said: 'it sounds like it's up his ass'. |
| 03:22.17 | mjc | you are designing jackknife? |
| 03:22.17 | mjc | or trying to use it |
| 03:22.17 | Ghent | yes |
| 03:22.17 | mjc | hum |
| 03:22.17 | Ghent | designing |
| 03:22.17 | mjc | ~seen ckknight |
| 03:22.20 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@198.199.136.119> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 18m 37s ago, saying: 'classtime'. |
| 03:22.46 | Ghent | mjc, why do you ask? |
| 03:23.09 | PProvost | Ghent, what is the line of code causing the error |
| 03:23.10 | mjc | Ghent: cause I'll check it out in a sec and see if I can help |
| 03:23.27 | Ghent | the code's not in the svn |
| 03:23.32 | PProvost | pastey it |
| 03:23.36 | Ghent | Ppro: would you -- okay |
| 03:23.38 | Ghent | one moment |
| 03:24.41 | Ghent | customlockboxes = PT:RegisterCustomSet("4632:1 4633:1 4634:75 4636:125 4637:175 4638:225 5758:225 5759:225 5760:225 6354:1 6355:125 6712:1 13875:175 13918:75 16882:75 16883:125 16884:175 16885:250", "customlockboxes",) |
| 03:25.50 | mjc | , at the end? |
| 03:25.59 | mjc | or is that lua :P |
| 03:26.05 | Ghent | lua |
| 03:26.31 | Ghent | which is particularly bothersome with it's punctuation, I might add ;) |
| 03:27.22 | krtek | I have to go :D Good evening |
| 03:27.24 | Ghent | 12 years on irc, and now it feels all different |
| 03:27.30 | Ghent | silly windows clients |
| 03:28.29 | Ghent | I was wondering if maybe I need to be doing those inside a function call or something, right now they're just in the main body of the script |
| 03:28.39 | Ghent | though, thinking about it, I see no reason why it would be any different |
| 03:29.14 | Sole_ | I got a problem |
| 03:29.32 | Ghent | What's that Sole? |
| 03:29.36 | Sole_ | some spells like Blink are detected as buffs when in fact its a cooldown |
| 03:29.50 | Sole_ | now Ive fixed it by flagging the spell as a cooldown and antagonist uses the cooldown data for it |
| 03:30.06 | mjc | blink is a buff |
| 03:30.08 | Sole_ | but bloodrage has a buff duration + a cooldown duration |
| 03:30.10 | mjc | "gains blink" |
| 03:30.14 | mjc | "blink fades from x" |
| 03:30.21 | Sole_ | yes but its a cooldown duration |
| 03:30.46 | Ghent | PProvost, any ideas? |
| 03:30.49 | Sole_ | with hostel/antagonist it would show under hte buffs section |
| 03:31.14 | PProvost | Sorry... was dealing w/ something else. Let me look back and see |
| 03:31.51 | Sole_ | the thing with bloodrage is I have a table self.bars which has the structure: self.bars[unit][spell] = {group} |
| 03:31.58 | PProvost | Ghent, first of all what is that extra comma at the end? |
| 03:32.20 | Ghent | I dunno, lua seems love commas everywhere |
| 03:32.36 | PProvost | :D |
| 03:32.41 | Sole_ | problem with bloodrage : when the cooldown bar is added it overrides the buffs entry in the table |
| 03:32.56 | Ghent | PProvost, do you think that might be the problem? (tests it) |
| 03:33.05 | PProvost | Yeah, seems likely |
| 03:33.48 | PProvost | UGH! Prat broken for everyone else too? |
| 03:34.00 | mjc | yes |
| 03:34.06 | PProvost | Damn |
| 03:34.07 | mjc | they're moving to a single-folder deal |
| 03:34.25 | PProvost | I think I need to add an option to WinAceUpdater to pick revision numbers. |
| 03:34.38 | PProvost | Then they should be working in branches until they get it right |
| 03:34.52 | mjc | don't look at me |
| 03:34.58 | PProvost | I'm not. |
| 03:35.07 | mjc | haha |
| 03:35.32 | mjc | ~seen krtek |
| 03:35.51 | purl | krtek <n=krtek@dhcp-83-219-107-102.customers.tvtnet.ch> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8m 29s ago, saying: 'I have to go :D Good evening '. |
| 03:35.51 | PProvost | So am I supposed to get rid of the "old" ones and just use Prat? |
| 03:35.52 | PProvost | Kinda looks like it... |
| 03:35.52 | mjc | think so. |
| 03:35.52 | PProvost | I"ll try that... |
| 03:36.01 | mjc | blame that guy |
| 03:36.03 | mjc | eheh |
| 03:36.07 | PProvost | haha |
| 03:36.14 | PProvost | If I can get it to work, I'll be okay |
| 03:36.15 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2512.0 |
| 03:36.20 | Industrial | hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 03:36.22 | Industrial | hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 03:36.23 | Industrial | etc |
| 03:36.55 | Industrial | wait wait im making a reply |
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| 03:38.51 | mjc | Industrial: hahahhahah |
| 03:40.51 | Xuerian | Hahahahahaah industrial. XD |
| 03:40.56 | mjc | Xuerian: XLM.lua:27: attempt to call method dooptions (nil) |
| 03:41.05 | Xuerian | wtfnuggets? 0_o |
| 03:41.24 | Xuerian | Any errors in XLootMonitorOptions.lua? |
| 03:41.36 | mjc | I just rled, lets see |
| 03:41.48 | PProvost | mjc, can you explain DeuceCommander? |
| 03:41.49 | Ghent | okay, that didn't change anything |
| 03:42.00 | Ghent | same error |
| 03:42.04 | mjc | PProvost: it parses all the slashcommands and provides a fubar menu :) |
| 03:42.11 | PProvost | Oh crap, I want that. |
| 03:42.14 | PProvost | :D |
| 03:42.35 | mjc | it's actually older than most of the fubar menu mods I was using |
| 03:42.41 | mjc | needs a little work too |
| 03:42.47 | mjc | doesn't like spaces in certain places |
| 03:42.49 | PProvost | Ghent, take the code and put it in ace.pastey.net and give us the link to the pastey page. |
| 03:42.59 | Ghent | you want the entire LUA? |
| 03:43.04 | PProvost | Sure, why not. |
| 03:43.06 | Ghent | ok |
| 03:43.10 | PProvost | May as well. |
| 03:43.18 | eternally777 | I can't find a way to create tradeskill items from FuBar :-( |
| 03:43.34 | PProvost | tcgTradeskills not good enough for you? |
| 03:44.31 | eternally777 | never heard of it |
| 03:44.37 | mjc | Xuerian: reproduced it with a /rl |
| 03:44.55 | Ghent | http://ace.pastey.net/1399 |
| 03:45.06 | Tekkub | oh... this new shit will allow popup menus on units to cast on them |
| 03:45.09 | Tekkub | niiiice. |
| 03:45.16 | PProvost | eternally777, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_tcgTradeskills |
| 03:45.29 | PProvost | Tekkub, what new shit? |
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| 03:45.36 | Xuerian | mjc: There are no errors in XLootMonitorOptions.lua? That's the only reason that would happen, because that's where the function is defined |
| 03:45.38 | Tekkub | bind the normal heals I use to left middle 4 and 5, menu on right with all the misc shit |
| 03:45.50 | mjc | Xuerian: it might not even be loaded |
| 03:45.52 | Tekkub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&sid=1&pageNo=7 |
| 03:45.57 | Xuerian | Buh |
| 03:46.05 | mjc | Xuerian: I'll report back once my sync of dev finishes |
| 03:46.16 | eternally777 | PProvost: That's not what I'm talking about |
| 03:46.20 | Xuerian | Kay, I fixed dragging at least... I think :P |
| 03:46.21 | Zeryl | ok, so Unit_Aura seems to fire before a buff hits you, is there an event that fires after? |
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| 03:46.38 | Tekkub | it really looks like Blizzy's pushing click-casting onto the masses, I'm so happy |
| 03:46.44 | Ghent | Tek, did you happen to get my PM on the forums? :) |
| 03:47.01 | Tekkub | yea, didn't toy with it tho |
| 03:47.04 | PProvost | eternally777, okay, I must've misunderstood. |
| 03:47.04 | Zeryl | or a way to delay x seconds before acting upon the event |
| 03:47.17 | eternally777 | PProvost: Imagine: You click on an icon on FuBar and a menu listing all your trade skills pops up. You click on a tradeskill, and another tooltip menu pops up listing all the recipes for that skill. click on a recipe and make it. |
| 03:47.18 | Tekkub | what exactly did ya do, just add some lockpick values for new items? |
| 03:47.27 | eternally777 | PProvost: That's what I was looking for :( |
| 03:47.46 | Ghent | Tek, yeah, and made some lists for other misc items that contain things |
| 03:47.57 | PProvost | eternally777, yeah, that sounds nice. |
| 03:48.00 | Ghent | I wasn't sure what to name it all, etc, so I just gave it to you to merge in |
| 03:48.13 | PProvost | I'm surprised there isn't one, now that you mention it/ |
| 03:48.19 | Tekkub | Ghent, you don't need to define the value 0 |
| 03:48.23 | Tekkub | it's the default |
| 03:48.35 | eternally777 | PProvost: after reading the code for the tradeskill window, I completely understand why |
| 03:48.50 | Tekkub | what exactly is this "miscbags"? |
| 03:48.58 | PProvost | Right. You have to open the window to do it, don't you? |
| 03:48.58 | alkis | is there a way to write a text file from inside an addon? |
| 03:49.01 | Tekkub | oh, containers |
| 03:49.28 | mjc | alkis: best you can do is savedvars |
| 03:49.37 | Ghent | Well, I wasn't sure if it didn't contain 2 fields that it wouldn't properly be arranged |
| 03:49.42 | Tekkub | I never put those is because I thought tooltip scanning for the <Right Click to Open> line was a better solution than a hardcoded set |
| 03:49.45 | eternally777 | mjc: Can't you write to clipboard too? Recap did that. |
| 03:49.49 | alkis | lua io doesn't work in warcraft? |
| 03:49.54 | mjc | yeah that too. |
| 03:49.58 | mjc | clipboard |
| 03:50.04 | Ghent | Tek, I was actually going to ask your opinion on that |
| 03:50.30 | alkis | whatever you write through io goes to clipboard? |
| 03:50.37 | Ghent | however, I've been stymied with a weird error that I haven't been able to find any info on |
| 03:50.40 | mjc | no |
| 03:50.40 | PProvost | Ghent, I don't think you can have the open paren on the next line like that. |
| 03:50.43 | mjc | you can use the clipboard |
| 03:50.49 | mjc | or write to a savedvar |
| 03:50.52 | Ghent | PP, doh, really? |
| 03:50.53 | mjc | no other file IO |
| 03:50.54 | PProvost | I'm not sure, but I've certainly never seen someone do that in Lua before. |
| 03:51.02 | PProvost | And I've also never seen that error |
| 03:51.10 | Tekkub | well, sets for openable items is fine by me, but I'd drop the values completely |
| 03:51.14 | Ghent | lemme condense it down and see what happens |
| 03:51.21 | PProvost | Try pulling the paren up on the first one and see if the error moves down a few lines. :) |
| 03:51.28 | Ghent | PP, aye |
| 03:51.29 | Tekkub | and probably just include them in lockboxes |
| 03:51.33 | alkis | thanks mjc |
| 03:51.36 | mjc | yep |
| 03:51.41 | Tekkub | without values, as there's no lockpick skill needed |
| 03:51.45 | Ghent | Tek, that works for me |
| 03:51.52 | mjc | alkis: wowwiki.com has a good list of that stuff |
| 03:52.03 | Tekkub | you can commit it to trunk, just don't break trunk :) |
| 03:52.16 | alkis | in which section? cause i browse that reguralry and didn't find anything |
| 03:52.31 | mjc | API listing |
| 03:52.33 | Sole_ | whats the dev svn url? |
| 03:52.40 | PProvost | dev.wowace.com |
| 03:52.41 | Sole_ | I lost the page :( |
| 03:52.47 | mjc | dev.wowace.com/wowwiki |
| 03:52.49 | Ghent | Tek, as is or do you want me to do what we just discussed? |
| 03:52.51 | mjc | er |
| 03:52.52 | mjc | haha |
| 03:52.55 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.28 | Ghent | PP, you're on the money |
| 03:53.30 | Ghent | thanks man |
| 03:53.51 | Tekkub | do what we discussed |
| 03:53.52 | PProvost | No prob. Glad to help. |
| 03:53.55 | *** part/#wowace Zeryl (i=Zeryl@75-132-127-218.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:53.59 | Tekkub | and no, you don't have to define 0 values |
| 03:54.11 | FISKER | [2006/10/07 05:55:34-72]: Prat_Buttons\Prat_Buttons.lua:10: AceModuleCore-2.0: The module "buttons" has already been registered |
| 03:54.20 | FISKER | anyone know why prat and all it's modules are doing that on startup? :I |
| 03:54.29 | PProvost | FISKER, yeah Prat is Fubar |
| 03:54.47 | Tekkub | delete the plugins, they're modules now |
| 03:54.50 | PProvost | Delete all the Prat addons except Prat. They are merging it all together. |
| 03:54.53 | FISKER | ah |
| 03:54.58 | PProvost | But it doesn't seem to work for me. |
| 03:55.01 | Ghent | Tek, will do, thanks. Took me about 2 hours just to make those little lists, must've taken you forever to put all that together |
| 03:55.01 | PProvost | Anyone else? |
| 03:55.05 | PProvost | Tekkub, ? |
| 03:55.18 | Tekkub | nandayo? |
| 03:55.38 | Ghent | beuhler? |
| 03:55.40 | Ghent | :o |
| 03:55.41 | Tekkub | Ghent, a lot of it was borrowed from other addons and refined |
| 03:55.45 | PProvost | Just wondering if Prat (current) is working for anyone. |
| 03:55.50 | Tekkub | and the loot tables were mined from Alla |
| 03:55.51 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2512.new#new |
| 03:55.56 | PProvost | After removing the extra addons. |
| 03:56.01 | Tekkub | PP, I don't use Prat *sheepish* |
| 03:56.05 | PProvost | hehe |
| 03:56.09 | Tekkub | I never got around to installing it |
| 03:56.11 | Ghent | tek, I was attempting to stroke your ego! stop shuttin me down! |
| 03:56.20 | Industrial | Tekkub: We should get some information like this in the READ FIRST forum and make them rules. |
| 03:56.34 | Industrial | Tekkub: maybe I havent explained it right but Im sure youll agree :P |
| 03:56.41 | Tekkub | Ghent, hours of holidays at the inlaws hiding in the bedroom on the comp |
| 03:57.16 | Tekkub | "Read first" is a waste of time, but feel free to |
| 03:57.18 | Industrial | READ FIRST forum thread* |
| 03:57.34 | Industrial | Tekkub: its not you can lock threads instantly that dont follow the rules |
| 03:57.40 | Sole_ | heh so Toirtoise has 2 buttons Create Folder and Add Folder in the repo browser...wth is the difference? |
| 03:57.42 | Industrial | and reply first ofcource |
| 03:57.55 | Tekkub | yea but I'm not that kind of mod |
| 03:58.00 | PProvost | Create creates a remote one, add adds a local one. |
| 03:58.06 | Industrial | apparently people arent getting it |
| 03:58.10 | Sole_ | thanks PP |
| 03:58.12 | Industrial | read the thread lol |
| 03:58.13 | PProvost | yep |
| 03:58.18 | PProvost | Most often you want create |
| 03:58.20 | Tekkub | I'm the kind that steps in and tells you to stop being a dick when you've gone too far |
| 03:59.31 | PProvost | Industrial, like it or not, Ace is successful. It is a brand. People will treat it like a product. |
| 03:59.42 | PProvost | This happens with ALL successful open source projects. |
| 03:59.57 | PProvost | It starts as people doing it for themselves. |
| 03:59.58 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13218 10Antagonist/: Created Antagonist folder remotely |
| 04:00.03 | PProvost | Then other folks start to use it |
| 04:00.17 | PProvost | And soon, you are getting more requests for features from people who can't even code than you can imagine. |
| 04:00.24 | PProvost | And you become a support organization for them. |
| 04:00.28 | PProvost | Or you ignore them |
| 04:00.33 | Industrial | PProvost: thats why i dropped idChat2 |
| 04:00.42 | PProvost | Why publish at all then? |
| 04:01.12 | Industrial | I publish for peers :P |
| 04:01.12 | PProvost | How's the air up there? |
| 04:01.29 | Industrial | ? :| |
| 04:01.34 | Funkeh` | releasing antagonist now sole? |
| 04:01.40 | Sole_ | ahh yeah |
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| 04:01.44 | PProvost | Sole_, pleaseplease |
| 04:01.46 | Funkeh` | sweet :) |
| 04:01.48 | Sole_ | early stages but it seems to be operational |
| 04:01.58 | Sole_ | only thing missing really is bloodrage is half fuxored now |
| 04:02.10 | Sole_ | the bloodrage cooldown bar cannot be removed when a person dies |
| 04:02.11 | Funkeh` | whats up wiht it? |
| 04:02.11 | Sole_ | thats bout it |
| 04:02.15 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 04:02.26 | Sole_ | because it conflicts with the bloodrage buffs entry in the bars table |
| 04:03.05 | FISKER | could be funny if blizzard actually released the BC release date in South Park :P |
| 04:03.08 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13219 10Antagonist/ (18 files in 4 dirs): Antagonist: initial upload |
| 04:03.20 | Sole_ | 18 files? |
| 04:03.20 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Antagonist |
| 04:03.40 | Sole_ | alrighty |
| 04:03.46 | kergoth | antagonist? hooray |
| 04:03.50 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:04.38 | Funkeh` | error |
| 04:04.41 | Funkeh` | parserlib |
| 04:05.35 | Sole_ | hmm |
| 04:05.48 | Azurewrath | hi Sole, i see you included the Charcoal.tga, nice ;) |
| 04:05.54 | Sole_ | =] |
| 04:05.57 | Sole_ | it looks nice |
| 04:06.02 | Funkeh` | antagonist.lua:11 attempt to index global `ParserLib' (a nil value) |
| 04:06.30 | Tekkub | South Park is very boring |
| 04:06.36 | Tekkub | it's nothing like the show |
| 04:07.04 | Tekkub | rafting on the Arkansas near there is fun tho |
| 04:08.25 | Sole_ | Funkeh: weird, can you check if ParserLib is in the libs folder? |
| 04:08.30 | Sole_ | I think it might an externals error |
| 04:08.48 | Ghent | hrm, I can't decide if I should watch Firefly or some other sci-fi while I code. |
| 04:08.52 | Funkeh` | no its not i thought that but i have it as its own loading up |
| 04:09.23 | Funkeh` | unless its actually looking for files in /libs? |
| 04:10.09 | alkis | in wowcombatlog are the times there (21:08:50.046) local times on the machine you are playing? |
| 04:10.37 | PProvost | bbl all |
| 04:10.47 | Azurewrath | Sole_: mhm... before i bother you.. :) should it already do something? Antagonist is loaded but both slash commands that are listed in the lua don't work |
| 04:10.49 | Funkeh` | sole |
| 04:11.02 | Funkeh` | slash command hint? :P |
| 04:11.11 | Industrial | kergoth: ping |
| 04:11.19 | Funkeh` | nm looked in lua |
| 04:11.27 | Azurewrath | Funkeh`: antagonist.lua, line 48 ;) |
| 04:11.55 | Funkeh` | no the slash commands are borked also those were the ones i was typing ^6 |
| 04:12.16 | Sole_ | there should be no slash commands except for /ant test |
| 04:12.27 | Funkeh` | nope |
| 04:12.40 | Funkeh` | want me to jsut copy the parserlib folder into the libs section and try? |
| 04:13.26 | Ghent | hrm, so apparently if I want to create an 'execute' in my console commands, the function I assign to it must already exist? |
| 04:13.44 | Sole_ | hmm |
| 04:14.27 | Azurewrath | oh... dumb me.. the libs folder is empty.. no externals set yet hehe |
| 04:14.34 | Funkeh` | gave it a bash but nah no luck same error |
| 04:14.34 | Sole_ | yes |
| 04:14.37 | Sole_ | Im trying to update it |
| 04:15.02 | Tekkub | now I'm sad... the wikipedia page for southpark doesn't list the Colorado "Inside jokes" |
| 04:15.50 | Tekkub | they do list Casa Bonita tho :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Bonita |
| 04:16.01 | Sole_ | alright gimme a sec please |
| 04:16.09 | Funkeh` | no you must do it NOW! :) |
| 04:17.01 | Tekkub | and it seems the lakewood one is the only one still open >< |
| 04:17.31 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13220 10Antagonist/ (Antagonist.toc libs/): |
| 04:17.31 | CIA-17 | Antagonist |
| 04:17.31 | CIA-17 | - Fixed ParserLib dependancy |
| 04:17.31 | CIA-17 | - Added externals |
| 04:17.46 | Sole_ | forgot I had to commit to the dev svn |
| 04:18.01 | Funkeh` | sole also look at line 8 of toc |
| 04:18.05 | Funkeh` | remove space |
| 04:18.10 | Funkeh` | gives a framexml error |
| 04:18.15 | Funkeh` | 18* |
| 04:19.17 | Ghent | anyone wanna take a quick peek at a block of code and tell me if I need to do it a different way? |
| 04:19.47 | Sole_ | ill take a peek, maybe (Doubtful) Ill see something to help you :) |
| 04:19.50 | Sole_ | pastebin it |
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| 04:19.54 | Ghent | http://ace.pastey.net/1399, lines 77 - 83 |
| 04:19.59 | Ghent | gives me this error |
| 04:20.12 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32184244&postId=322117501&sid=1#1 |
| 04:20.14 | Ghent | JackKnife.lua:77: attempt to call method `ScanBags' (a nil value) |
| 04:20.16 | Cairenn | slouken clarified |
| 04:20.44 | Ghent | Which I guess it should since it seems to me it's trying to assign ScanBags return to func |
| 04:20.49 | Azurewrath | Sole_: you forgot a /trunk/ in the externals path to CandyBar :) |
| 04:21.33 | Sole_ | yea Azure Im fixing it now |
| 04:21.58 | Sole_ | Ghent: try func = "ScanBags" or func = function() self:ScanBags() end |
| 04:22.09 | Ghent | I was thinkin the 2nd |
| 04:22.13 | Ghent | I'll try both though |
| 04:22.15 | Ghent | thanks :D |
| 04:22.16 | Tekkub | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_Springs%2C_Colorado |
| 04:22.16 | Sole_ | either works I think |
| 04:22.18 | Tekkub | *giggle* |
| 04:22.30 | Ghent | bbiab! |
| 04:23.41 | kb1ibt | is there a way to not load one of the modules of prat at all? |
| 04:24.27 | Plorkyeran | Delete it? |
| 04:24.44 | kb1ibt | not just disable through pratfu but disable like you could w/ idchat and just turn off the module in the addons on the charactor screen |
| 04:26.12 | Sole_ | Ghent: did it work? |
| 04:27.36 | Ghent | 1st, no, 2nd yes |
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| 04:35.22 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13221 10Antagonist/ (Antagonist-locale.lua Antagonist.lua Antagonist.toc libs/): |
| 04:35.22 | CIA-17 | Antagonist: |
| 04:35.22 | CIA-17 | - Added basic command line options |
| 04:35.23 | CIA-17 | - Fixed some toc entries |
| 04:35.23 | CIA-17 | - Fixed CandyBar external |
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| 04:38.10 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:39.07 | Thunder_Child | hi ckknight....cant help it |
| 04:39.38 | Azurewrath | Sole: tyo on line 28 in Antagonist.lua :) |
| 04:40.18 | Sole | bah forgot to actually reload the interface >< |
| 04:41.52 | Azurewrath | hehe |
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| 04:43.22 | Tekkub | I'm so proud! |
| 04:43.23 | Tekkub | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Red_Man%27s_Greed&diff=79975070&oldid=77110505 |
| 04:43.30 | Tekkub | my first wikipedia edit |
| 04:44.27 | ckknight | I've edited a few times |
| 04:46.11 | Azurewrath | Sole: after correcting the typo it loads without error and works.. at least for some lvl 10 harpy witches.. ;) |
| 04:46.15 | Azurewrath | looks good so far :) |
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| 04:47.20 | Funkeh` | urg, explorer, crashing |
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| 04:52.59 | Wobin | y'know what would make me squee? |
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| 04:53.03 | calz | !trunk OneBag |
| 04:53.04 | Wobin | IronFoe |
| 04:53.07 | SVNBot | You can already find the latest revision of OneBag at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/OneBag/ |
| 04:53.33 | Industrial | hey wobin have you began (again) on PK yet? :D |
| 04:53.53 | Wobin | Not quite. I've been putting together ideas so far |
| 04:54.01 | Industrial | k |
| 04:54.19 | Industrial | I think it will wipe the floor with anything out there right now |
| 04:54.23 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 04:54.32 | Industrial | as it already does now anyway |
| 04:54.38 | Industrial | well almost |
| 04:54.40 | Wobin | Can anyone help me with build suggestions for a macerogue? |
| 04:54.51 | Wobin | I've been doing the combatmace/hemo build so far |
| 04:54.58 | Wobin | but I've hit 60 and am thinking of a change |
| 04:55.02 | Wobin | (mostly for raiding) |
| 04:56.08 | PProvost | Sorry, I'm daggers. |
| 04:56.11 | Azurewrath | mhm... i'm no rogue.. but what i overheard from our rogues is that mace spec is total crap for raid |
| 04:56.28 | Azurewrath | most mobs are immune to the stun anyway, combat swords or combat daggers is the way to go |
| 04:57.01 | Wobin | hm |
| 04:57.10 | Wobin | I should make HeyFu's reply list global |
| 04:57.19 | Wobin | So you can reply to the same people when switching characters |
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| 04:57.25 | CIA-17 | 03hshh * r13222 10BabbleLib/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Babble: update class and zone zhCN locale |
| 04:57.57 | Azurewrath | hehe.. i learned from heyFu that i get to many whispers.. 250kb savedvariables for last week.. |
| 04:58.11 | Wobin | hehe I'm working on an archive |
| 04:58.20 | Wobin | with compression |
| 04:59.30 | Ghent | hemo with mace doesn't really sound like the best way to go, I'd go into the combat tree and get AR + BF |
| 05:00.14 | Tekkub | oh I just had a great idea I think I want to bounce off slouken |
| 05:00.21 | Tekkub | LoDDependancy... |
| 05:00.25 | PProvost | Hehe |
| 05:00.30 | Tekkub | if the dep is present, the mod is LoD |
| 05:00.35 | PProvost | May as well try while you can. |
| 05:00.36 | Tekkub | if not, it acts normally |
| 05:01.33 | Industrial | I dont understand how lod and dependancies affect eachother.. |
| 05:02.09 | Industrial | a dependancy is there lod or not, right? and it doesnt change when you need it.. |
| 05:05.14 | Tekkub | yea but... see that's what I'm asking for |
| 05:05.24 | Tekkub | an OptDep that changes how the addon is loaded |
| 05:05.33 | Tekkub | if OptDep is present, addon is LoD |
| 05:05.46 | Tekkub | If OptDep is missing, addon is normal load |
| 05:06.00 | Industrial | but, why? |
| 05:06.19 | Industrial | I mean give an example (interested) |
| 05:06.22 | Tekkub | because half the people here don't want to use S&D because it's a dependancy |
| 05:06.32 | Tekkub | people hate ReqDeps, but love OptDeps |
| 05:06.54 | Tekkub | like take oRA, it could delay load till you're in a raid if you have S&D |
| 05:07.04 | Tekkub | if you don't, then just load it normally |
| 05:07.14 | Wobin | Ghent: I do have BF, but not AR |
| 05:07.16 | Arrowmaster | ask for an Embed: while your at it, for any folder names liked in the entry it looks for those as subfolders of the current mod and checks for a .toc and loads it or just the files in it but non of the metadata |
| 05:07.26 | Tekkub | therefore we're not forcing people into using S&D, just encouraging it |
| 05:07.54 | Tekkub | this isn't congress, I don't take requests onto my requests |
| 05:07.55 | Tekkub | :P |
| 05:08.03 | Industrial | (whats S&D) |
| 05:08.05 | Tekkub | if you want something ask, slouken listens |
| 05:08.11 | Tekkub | indie I fucking hate you |
| 05:08.19 | Industrial | hahah sorry :< |
| 05:08.22 | Tekkub | get with the times |
| 05:08.30 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Supply_and_Demand |
| 05:08.47 | Industrial | For me that reads as Seek and Destroy but I dont knwow why |
| 05:08.51 | Tekkub | and everyone with a US acct please show your support... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32314424&postId=321717695&sid=1#0 |
| 05:09.29 | Wobin | and anyway, with macespec, we're not really doing MC or any of those sorts, so the stun effect is mostly for the trashmobs on ZG etc |
| 05:09.34 | Arrowmaster | sorry busy installing bf2142 demo |
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| 05:12.05 | Tekkub | clad! |
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| 05:14.38 | cladhaire | ? |
| 05:15.51 | PProvost | Hey clad, welcome back. How goes it? |
| 05:15.51 | FISKER | Tekkub i will buy an us account and support the cause you're supporting without even reading it yet |
| 05:15.51 | lacindas | tekkub: ./signed on your post |
| 05:15.58 | Funkeh` | soly come back" |
| 05:16.01 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 05:16.26 | ckknight | why doesn't Clark |
| 05:16.32 | ckknight | Kent find Bin Laden? |
| 05:16.42 | ckknight | (watching Smallville) |
| 05:16.51 | Funkeh` | hes immune |
| 05:17.06 | Funkeh` | and blizzard didnt make combat log messages for bin ladden so you cant detect him |
| 05:17.48 | Funkeh` | excuse me im jsut tired :) |
| 05:26.50 | Neebler | http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorpg-general-discussion/25140-mods-make-wow-ezmode-idiots-rejoice.html |
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| 05:28.20 | sodaking | which ace2 mod shows coord on map? |
| 05:28.57 | kergoth | im sure there are quite a few that do, sodaking |
| 05:29.02 | kergoth | i know simpleminimap has a module for it |
| 05:29.27 | sodaking | oh |
| 05:35.24 | Industrial | Tekkub: nice work on kyubi im loving it :o |
| 05:35.33 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 05:35.36 | Tekkub | it's so simple too |
| 05:35.47 | Industrial | Tekkub: would be niceR though if it used its own frame |
| 05:35.48 | Industrial | but meh |
| 05:35.50 | XLVII | mm.. |
| 05:35.51 | kergoth | whats kyubi? |
| 05:35.57 | XLVII | What's a good name for a Female Gnome? |
| 05:35.58 | XLVII | ;F |
| 05:36.04 | Industrial | Gigglez |
| 05:36.10 | Tekkub | kerg, my new FireShow |
| 05:36.12 | kergoth | ah |
| 05:36.13 | kergoth | nice |
| 05:36.20 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Kyubi_no_Kitsune |
| 05:36.40 | Industrial | XLVII: SteppedInGnome |
| 05:36.43 | Industrial | :P |
| 05:37.24 | Industrial | if there was a drwan picture (duh) of a tauren saying that i'd use it as my new sig |
| 05:37.27 | Industrial | drwan* |
| 05:37.41 | Industrial | "Eww I think I stepped in gnome.." |
| 05:40.10 | Cairenn | Tekkub: dancing yet? |
| 05:40.42 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 05:40.50 | Cairenn | go check your post :p |
| 05:41.10 | Tekkub | midnight sloukening? |
| 05:41.18 | Tekkub | wewt! |
| 05:41.20 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 05:41.28 | kb1ibt | what? |
| 05:41.56 | Cairenn | at least he'll be looking into it |
| 05:42.10 | Cairenn | not a promise, but a consideration is better than nothing |
| 05:42.49 | Tekkub | with him that means well get something functional eventually |
| 05:42.50 | Tekkub | off I go |
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| 05:46.22 | PProvost | Apologies Kaelten... |
| 05:46.29 | CIA-17 | 03pprovost * r13223 10AceGUI/elements/AceGUIMoneyFrame.lua: AceGui: Fixed zero length file to resolve bug in WAU. |
| 05:46.44 | Tem | oh lol |
| 05:46.48 | Tem | I totally forgot about that file |
| 05:47.01 | PProvost | I hate that damn bug. |
| 05:47.20 | PProvost | The guys who maintain the zip library I'm using have it fixed in the next version, so it will go away soon. |
| 05:47.21 | Industrial | poke the compression lib ppl :P |
| 05:47.26 | Industrial | oh :< |
| 05:47.28 | PProvost | I poked em yesterday. |
| 05:49.49 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r13224 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: |
| 05:49.50 | CIA-17 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 05:49.50 | CIA-17 | -Optimize CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM usage. Still loathe it, though. |
| 05:49.50 | CIA-17 | -Now get player info from /who. |
| 05:49.50 | CIA-17 | -Option to print player notes on /who. |
| 05:51.32 | PProvost | Anyone using XAD and seeing borders on the buttons? They used to be there and now they're gone. I miss them. They don't look like the rest of my buttons. |
| 05:51.58 | kb1ibt | i tried using XAD but it didn't load properly |
| 05:52.08 | FISKER_Q | i never had borders on xad i believe |
| 05:52.34 | FISKER_Q | yeah mine were filled with errors |
| 05:52.39 | FISKER_Q | although i hear they're fixed now |
| 05:53.21 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo 07Neronix * r13225 10NanoStats2/NanoStats2/NanoStats2.lua: NanoStats2: Fix "expected table got nil" on line 148. |
| 05:53.45 | PProvost | The new version works well, but no borders. |
| 05:54.09 | FISKER_Q | Bah i hate blizzard's inabillity to remember to keep you logged in and on the forum |
| 05:54.34 | kb1ibt | i'll have to look again but i thought i was using the ToT version of XAD |
| 05:54.35 | FISKER_Q | If you stay away to long you just get "Welcome to the blizzard forums, select a forum" |
| 05:54.38 | FISKER_Q | pretty annoying |
| 05:54.40 | Kemayo | Oh wow. It feels so nice to log in without hearing "Fatality!" now. |
| 05:54.56 | PProvost | hahaha |
| 05:55.01 | kb1ibt | I love that Worms noise |
| 05:55.28 | CIA-17 | 03bhattu * r13226 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua: Chronometer: try to fix weirdness |
| 05:55.39 | kb1ibt | i usually hear it everytime i log in, but I have other reason's why it pops |
| 05:55.49 | Kemayo | It's nicer than the default beep, definitely. |
| 05:55.51 | FISKER_Q | ~seen hyperChipmunk |
| 05:56.07 | purl | hyperchipmunk is currently on #wowi-lounge (15h 53m 23s) #hosernet (15h 53m 23s) #wowace (15h 53m 23s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 1h 28m 22s, last said: 'mom says goodnight'. |
| 05:56.11 | Funkeh` | wierdness? :D |
| 05:56.25 | Industrial | At what point does eviscerate do more damage then Sinister strike? 2-3 combo points? |
| 05:57.35 | Funkeh` | antagonist still doesnt work at all ;p no sight of sole :( |
| 05:57.53 | Industrial | Oh wait that totally depends on weapons and stats |
| 05:57.56 | Industrial | hm |
| 05:58.00 | FISKER_Q | 3 points sound around right with my weapon at the moment |
| 05:58.01 | FISKER_Q | ^^ |
| 05:58.21 | Industrial | Im having a go at trying to fit more then one thing in 1 button |
| 05:58.51 | Industrial | http://pastey.net/1400 |
| 05:59.25 | PProvost | You could always just use LazyRogue and be done with it. :D |
| 05:59.46 | Industrial | but thats no fun :P |
| 06:00.01 | PProvost | haha |
| 06:00.06 | Industrial | LazyRogue hm? lemme look at it and steal code :E |
| 06:00.10 | FISKER_Q | couldn't see why you would make an eviscerate after 3 points though |
| 06:00.40 | PProvost | The Lazy guys have now extracted the rules engine into LazyScript so youc an make it work with any class. |
| 06:00.55 | PProvost | Interesting stuff, but it can make melee a bit boring and repetetive. |
| 06:00.57 | Funkeh` | rogue isnt an anagram for lazy? Oo :P |
| 06:00.58 | Industrial | FISKER_Q: my rogue is level 4, it will change while I level hehe |
| 06:01.07 | FISKER_Q | ah ok |
| 06:01.28 | Industrial | just for testing now :) |
| 06:01.31 | FISKER_Q | cause dumping 3 points all the time is pretty stupid endgame :) |
| 06:01.45 | PProvost | Kemayo, you grab the zip? That's the one I'm using. |
| 06:02.12 | Kemayo | OMG. Bartender2 has stickiness! |
| 06:02.27 | Kemayo | Hm, no. I was assuming the SVN version was up to date. |
| 06:02.29 | FISKER_Q | welcome to last millenium |
| 06:02.37 | PProvost | Yeah I just discovered that. I like it. |
| 06:02.38 | FISKER_Q | (teehee) |
| 06:02.53 | PProvost | Does a key stop the sticky? |
| 06:03.04 | PProvost | 'cause sometimes I want close but not stuck. |
| 06:03.06 | FISKER_Q | don't know :) |
| 06:03.15 | Funkeh` | i thought it was to fix the problem with ag_unitframes? is that fixed now? |
| 06:04.06 | FISKER_Q | btw |
| 06:04.14 | FISKER_Q | anyone know why WoW sometimes have audio outside of the game |
| 06:04.17 | FISKER_Q | and sometimes don't |
| 06:04.25 | PProvost | huh? doesn't do that for me |
| 06:04.27 | Funkeh` | something to do with minimizing |
| 06:04.32 | PProvost | Might be your audio drivers. |
| 06:04.40 | FISKER_Q | haven't changed a thing |
| 06:04.45 | FISKER_Q | happened with 1.12.1 i think |
| 06:04.49 | PProvost | Interesting. |
| 06:04.55 | PProvost | Windowed mode or full screen? |
| 06:04.58 | Funkeh` | aye as of that patch |
| 06:05.09 | FISKER_Q | Windowed->Maximized and also in just Windowed |
| 06:05.20 | Funkeh` | im on maximised but anyway ;p |
| 06:05.20 | FISKER_Q | but it's like a random occurance |
| 06:05.40 | FISKER_Q | But i would like cause then you could hear if you're about to get pwned and stuff |
| 06:05.44 | FISKER_Q | :) |
| 06:05.58 | Funkeh` | yeah love it when it works, cant alt tab in raids |
| 06:06.20 | Funkeh` | tab back in where i hear oRA tank death noise |
| 06:06.29 | FISKER_Q | ^^ |
| 06:06.30 | Funkeh` | oops.. |
| 06:06.35 | FISKER_Q | or just the ready voice :) |
| 06:06.37 | FISKER_Q | but still |
| 06:06.40 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 06:06.42 | FISKER_Q | lol |
| 06:06.50 | FISKER_Q | just found out i still had Macromedia flash |
| 06:07.07 | Funkeh` | the full thing? |
| 06:07.15 | FISKER_Q | nah just player |
| 06:07.19 | FISKER_Q | but it's adobe flash player now |
| 06:07.24 | FISKER_Q | :) |
| 06:07.24 | Funkeh` | aye |
| 06:07.35 | Funkeh` | so far were noticing the difference .. |
| 06:07.43 | Funkeh` | in name! |
| 06:07.47 | FISKER_Q | heh yeah |
| 06:07.50 | FISKER_Q | still have flash player 8 |
| 06:07.55 | FISKER_Q | so might as well get it updated though |
| 06:08.00 | Funkeh` | ill update when it stops working |
| 06:08.01 | FISKER_Q | Thought it was supposed to autoupdate though |
| 06:08.18 | FISKER_Q | Sometimes my flash module is crashing so it's time for me :P |
| 06:08.31 | Iceroth | Industrial, pong |
| 06:08.35 | Funkeh` | dont give in to the adobe evilness! |
| 06:08.48 | Funkeh` | or whatever |
| 06:09.00 | FISKER_Q | i thought it was macromedia who took over adobe anyways :P |
| 06:09.10 | Funkeh` | was it? |
| 06:09.13 | Funkeh` | id lol if it was |
| 06:09.23 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=no@222-152-198-121.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 06:09.23 | Funkeh` | probably all the pirate photoshops bankrupt them |
| 06:09.25 | FISKER_Q | lets find out :P |
| 06:09.40 | Funkeh` | sole! |
| 06:09.48 | Funkeh` | wb! still doesnt work! :) |
| 06:10.11 | FISKER_Q | nah |
| 06:10.16 | FISKER_Q | it was adobe who bought macromedia |
| 06:10.17 | FISKER_Q | :( |
| 06:10.34 | Funkeh` | meh |
| 06:10.51 | Funkeh` | i still lol at the amount of people who dl photoshop and the amount who buy it |
| 06:11.01 | FISKER_Q | heh |
| 06:11.37 | Funkeh` | antagonist.lua:28 attempt to perform arithmetic on global `name'(a nil value) |
| 06:11.54 | Funkeh` | btw do the bars have icons atm? im guessing they dont |
| 06:11.55 | FISKER_Q | hehe |
| 06:11.56 | FISKER_Q | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&pageNo=12 |
| 06:12.03 | FISKER_Q | "Thanks for being so questionable at this hour, by the way." |
| 06:12.14 | FISKER_Q | sounds a bit wrong |
| 06:12.16 | Sole | Funkeh: Ive fixed it, Im just building up the command line atm |
| 06:12.23 | Sole | the bars should have icons |
| 06:12.36 | Industrial | Iceroth: IceHUD makes dragging the dewdrop sliders lag my UI madly - 1/2 secs freeze mad. |
| 06:12.40 | Kemayo | Okay, yeah, XAD still raises my blood pressure to attempt to use. |
| 06:12.47 | Funkeh` | really? Oo i jsut took i guess cause i saw no icons in the data folder |
| 06:13.21 | Sole | Funkeh: BabbleSpell |
| 06:13.24 | Funkeh` | 2 little bits, like i said before remove the space line 18 causing an error in framexml.log ;p also you have backup file in the data again just silly things ;p |
| 06:13.29 | Funkeh` | bah :( |
| 06:13.59 | Sole | i have icon strings for the mob spells |
| 06:14.02 | Industrial | SLASH_IDINTERFACEROGUE1 = '/idInterfaceRogue' |
| 06:14.04 | Industrial | SlashCmdList['IDINTERFACEROGUE'] = Attacks[arg1] |
| 06:14.06 | Industrial | What's wrong with that? |
| 06:14.08 | Industrial | (It's not registering) |
| 06:16.12 | Sole | Funkeh: whats the error at line 18? |
| 06:16.15 | Funkeh` | also sole i think you should jsut get rid of conjuring/portal creation/hearthstone, theres really no advantage from seeing those bars in pvp or pve, havent done it in necb from sheer lazyness ;p |
| 06:16.19 | Funkeh` | the sapce |
| 06:16.22 | Funkeh` | space* |
| 06:16.26 | Funkeh` | jsut remove it ;p |
| 06:16.31 | Funkeh` | oh dear its late |
| 06:16.36 | Funkeh` | excuse me :( |
| 06:17.08 | Funkeh` | slouken is on form Q :) |
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| 06:18.22 | Funkeh` | but i heard most of the api changes will come 1.13 for testing? jsut fibs? |
| 06:20.51 | dreyruugr | Funkeh`: afaik there will be no 1.13 |
| 06:21.02 | Funkeh` | [BS["Power Word: Shield"]] = {15,"priest","holy"}, is something to add for your cooldowns, could add hunders but ill sleep first |
| 06:21.49 | Funkeh` | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/ |
| 06:21.54 | Iceroth | Industrial, yea i'm aware, it's because most if not all changes repaint the whole hud |
| 06:22.25 | Iceroth | and it doesn't help that dewdrop sliders issue the update command for like every frame drawn even if you are just holding the mouse button down and not moving it |
| 06:24.01 | Funkeh` | nice.. |
| 06:24.06 | Funkeh` | i just realised i was logged on |
| 06:24.10 | Funkeh` | 16 whispers |
| 06:24.25 | Funkeh` | all "can i ahve ..s/..g?" |
| 06:24.48 | Funkeh` | mass foad mod please? :D |
| 06:25.20 | ckknight | Iceroth, not true |
| 06:25.41 | ckknight | it only updates if the value changes |
| 06:25.52 | Iceroth | that's not what i witnessed |
| 06:26.49 | Funkeh` | EE stopped EEmon cause of the tbc changes :( |
| 06:28.48 | Funkeh` | btw is there some kind of advantage v bots to these new api changes? |
| 06:29.47 | ckknight | bots are now much harder to make, now |
| 06:30.07 | Funkeh` | whats the api function they use so much that makes em harder to make? |
| 06:31.57 | ckknight | CastSpellByName() |
| 06:32.10 | ckknight | and Targeting functions |
| 06:32.20 | Sole | bah command line options are annoying to set up :( |
| 06:32.21 | ckknight | by not having those, it makes botting near-impossible |
| 06:32.50 | Funkeh` | well tbh, if they remove those functions and i see lets bots, hwich is want more that any mod, and presuming they dont make encounters like dispell 20 people in 3 sec, ill be fine |
| 06:33.07 | Industrial | ckknight: eh no, just send feedback back through color and send hardware events back |
| 06:33.33 | Industrial | s/back // |
| 06:34.15 | ckknight | the hardware events have to be properly placed |
| 06:34.19 | ckknight | that's the main issue now |
| 06:34.21 | Industrial | yes |
| 06:34.26 | ckknight | compared to before |
| 06:34.32 | ckknight | where a blanket event could do anything |
| 06:34.36 | Funkeh` | it doesnt make it impossible, but it makes it harder, harder = good :) |
| 06:34.37 | Industrial | yea |
| 06:34.50 | Funkeh` | less bots = more time for blizz to investigate em |
| 06:34.51 | ckknight | I never said it'd be impossible |
| 06:35.07 | ckknight | just near-impossible |
| 06:35.07 | Funkeh` | well, no, near ;p |
| 06:35.14 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 06:35.24 | Industrial | I have a very basic rogue thingy that chooses between attacks for me. this is just the beginning but I have a question: http://pastey.net/1401 |
| 06:35.58 | Industrial | Im using my own slash command handler now to relay it through a macro, this makes executing the macro put the slash command in my history list of things i 'said'. Is there another way? |
| 06:36.33 | FISKER_Q | Well a bot just use keypresses |
| 06:36.44 | FISKER_Q | Well the good bots do |
| 06:36.57 | FISKER_Q | As the other bots are detectable when they interact with WoW |
| 06:37.07 | Industrial | FISKER_Q: keypress = hardware event |
| 06:37.19 | Industrial | ==* |
| 06:37.21 | FISKER_Q | yeah? |
| 06:37.48 | Industrial | so.. thats what we just said =P |
| 06:37.59 | FISKER_Q | yeah :P |
| 06:38.04 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 06:38.38 | Funkeh` | orly? |
| 06:38.41 | ckknight | now a keypress has to be properly placed |
| 06:39.41 | Industrial | so you have to configure your spells.. or tell the bot wich is what |
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| 06:39.59 | Industrial | s/spells/actionbuttons/ |
| 06:40.43 | Industrial | thats a small workaround really... |
| 06:41.05 | Funkeh` | cant be easy to work around it, they woudlnt have made it if it was that easy surely |
| 06:41.29 | FISKER_Q | The changes aren't to stop bots but to stop addons that remove all thought? |
| 06:41.48 | Funkeh` | break KTM please |
| 06:42.05 | Industrial | FISKER_Q: yeahi think so |
| 06:42.10 | Industrial | and i was just going to make one |
| 06:42.11 | Industrial | lol |
| 06:42.22 | FISKER_Q | :) |
| 06:42.25 | Funkeh` | bye lazyrogue? :P |
| 06:42.33 | Industrial | actually it already works :o |
| 06:42.36 | Industrial | yes Funkeh` |
| 06:42.36 | FISKER_Q | lazyrogue is stupid anyways |
| 06:42.57 | Funkeh` | will KTM work? |
| 06:43.16 | Industrial | whats KTM |
| 06:43.23 | Funkeh` | that silly threat meter |
| 06:43.45 | Sole | lazyrogue is dumb |
| 06:44.02 | Sole | KTM was actually quite nice |
| 06:44.03 | Funkeh` | no1 curse for reason what? |
| 06:44.13 | Funkeh` | meh, im a hater :( |
| 06:44.20 | Sole | but I dunno if KTM is fair though |
| 06:44.34 | FISKER_Q | KTM isn't that bad |
| 06:44.38 | Funkeh` | i shout at people who even think of installing it in our guild |
| 06:44.44 | FISKER_Q | It's not that reliable anyways |
| 06:44.56 | Sole | it makes a rogue's life too easy |
| 06:44.56 | FISKER_Q | noes |
| 06:44.59 | FISKER_Q | not chipmunk |
| 06:45.10 | FISKER_Q | nah lazyrogue simply sucks |
| 06:45.11 | Sole | takes away from the whole "learning to control aggro" thing |
| 06:45.17 | Sole | lazyrogue is dumb |
| 06:45.29 | Funkeh` | tbh |
| 06:45.30 | FISKER_Q | You can perhaps use it to auto-riposte and/or auto-feint |
| 06:45.32 | FISKER_Q | but that's about it |
| 06:45.33 | Sole | no addon can replicate a person's decisions |
| 06:45.33 | Funkeh` | people use these mods |
| 06:45.35 | FISKER_Q | The other is a waste |
| 06:45.39 | Funkeh` | then they complain their class is boring |
| 06:45.48 | Funkeh` | is it any wonder blizz makes these changes |
| 06:45.57 | Funkeh` | i think its another way of saying l2p |
| 06:45.59 | FISKER_Q | Well we only have 3 abillities :P |
| 06:46.02 | Industrial | I have my rogue addon do ambush and backstab for me atm, saving up to A WHOLE BUTTON |
| 06:46.12 | Funkeh` | wow! |
| 06:46.17 | Funkeh` | so much energy saved! |
| 06:46.21 | kergoth | yay antagonist, it works, goodbye hostelbar |
| 06:46.21 | Funkeh` | and brain power! |
| 06:46.25 | kergoth | ~praise Sole |
| 06:46.26 | purl | All hail Sole! |
| 06:46.31 | Sole | ^_^ |
| 06:46.36 | PProvost | "You totally rock, Squirt!" |
| 06:46.42 | Sole | it was a lot easier to make than hostelbar |
| 06:46.43 | Funkeh` | yours works? hell i dindt realised you uploaded the svn yet :p |
| 06:46.52 | Sole | now comes the annoying part |
| 06:47.02 | Sole | Im doing the command lines right now |
| 06:47.04 | PProvost | Supporting us whiners? |
| 06:47.08 | Sole | then Ill commit the small bugfixes |
| 06:47.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 06:47.35 | Industrial | whats antagonist? :D wikiwiki! /me waits, got a screenshot? :o |
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| 06:47.39 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 06:47.49 | Funkeh` | yeah grats, with necb all you get is "great but, but can you add..??" thats the only post you iwll ever ger, gl if you can ever truly finish it ;p |
| 06:47.50 | lacindas | hrm, antagonist is working for you all? |
| 06:47.52 | Sole | antagonist = hostelbar2 |
| 06:47.54 | kergoth | working fine here |
| 06:47.56 | Funkeh` | no |
| 06:48.02 | Funkeh` | error on stratup |
| 06:48.06 | kergoth | at least buffs and casts are, verified that |
| 06:48.06 | Funkeh` | but sole is fixing it |
| 06:48.15 | lacindas | yah im getting an error on login/startup |
| 06:48.18 | Sole | there are not that many cooldowns |
| 06:48.27 | kergoth | yea, havent done any pvp yet :) |
| 06:49.31 | lacindas | hrm, odd, i wonder why im gettin an error but youre not :P |
| 06:49.37 | Industrial | hmm |
| 06:49.49 | Industrial | bet I could throw Sap and Gouge into one button too |
| 06:49.53 | Funkeh` | i dont nkow but like i said i think sole has fixed it? |
| 06:50.11 | Funkeh` | just be patient ;p |
| 06:50.14 | Industrial | I mean why Gouge someone when you can Sap him :P |
| 06:50.18 | lacindas | im willing to bet he's workin on it ;) |
| 06:50.37 | Funkeh` | you got thw whip ready though incase he tried to take a break? :P |
| 06:50.46 | Sole | lacindas: Ive fixed it locally already :P |
| 06:50.51 | lacindas | id: yeah, couldnt you jus check for combat or not and use 1 or the other |
| 06:50.59 | lacindas | well commit so i can play with it :P |
| 06:51.05 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 06:51.08 | Industrial | lacindas: stealth or not |
| 06:51.10 | Industrial | :D |
| 06:51.13 | Greywind | hmm, im not exactly sure about these BC changes |
| 06:51.24 | kergoth | hmm, the sortenchant guy redid it with ace2? woot |
| 06:51.49 | Greywind | I mean i love WoW so ill adapt, just seems to me they are making the game less fun |
| 06:52.14 | Funkeh` | or, more fun? because its more of a challenge? |
| 06:52.23 | Industrial | was about to say ^___^ |
| 06:52.30 | Greywind | challenge sometimes doesnt equal fun |
| 06:52.42 | Greywind | challenge sometimes equals frustration |
| 06:52.46 | Funkeh` | no challenge = never fun |
| 06:53.00 | Greywind | and thats your opinion and i respect that |
| 06:53.06 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 06:53.21 | Industrial | succeeding after frustration is great though |
| 06:53.27 | Funkeh` | well thats my opinion and always will be as an end game raider i look for challenge, more is better |
| 06:53.46 | Greywind | oh im not saying this is a bad thing |
| 06:54.08 | Funkeh` | its a thing you will need to adjust to but you are unsure how that adjusting proces will work? ;p |
| 06:54.15 | Funkeh` | process* |
| 06:54.15 | Greywind | aye |
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| 06:54.35 | Industrial | I do FPS skillmaps (jumps and what not) and thats frustrating alot - but waaay cool when you achieve the best time/the end of the map/etc |
| 06:54.36 | Greywind | the comments are so scattered, I'm trying to catch up |
| 06:54.38 | Funkeh` | me niether, i jsut hope it works out |
| 06:54.51 | Funkeh` | yeah its a bit, murky? |
| 06:55.21 | Funkeh` | the chances of them changing it is quite high though lets face it |
| 06:55.32 | Greywind | i dont care so much about decursing and stuff like that, but i will miss my squishy |
| 06:55.35 | Funkeh` | miles away from tbc and sometimes popular demand wins |
| 06:55.43 | Industrial | im worried about the locked frame thing |
| 06:55.44 | Funkeh` | me also :( |
| 06:55.59 | Funkeh` | i <3 my sqishy :( |
| 06:56.01 | Greywind | yeah I have a ton more screen space now with squishy |
| 06:56.33 | Greywind | if i have to go back to having all my raid frames shown again i will be very upset |
| 06:56.49 | Greywind | healing is so much more enjoyable when you can watch the action |
| 06:57.24 | Funkeh` | oh yeah the molten core days when the only mod was ctra and decursive and you had those raid frames in the center fo the screen |
| 06:57.30 | Greywind | i guess you could just make an addon that warns you with a SCT style warning to heal that person |
| 06:57.48 | Greywind | but that could be annoying too :( |
| 06:57.52 | Iceroth | gah! who confesses, who gave me bad karma? |
| 06:57.56 | Funkeh` | if ti wasnt clickable |
| 06:58.13 | Funkeh` | ice i did, you promissed me cookies! |
| 06:58.28 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 06:58.33 | Iceroth | :| |
| 06:58.39 | Funkeh` | kidding ;p |
| 06:58.42 | lacindas | lol |
| 06:59.00 | lacindas | only <3 iceroth damnit, icehud owns :P |
| 06:59.54 | Iceroth | meh, i tried to be so polite even to the stupidiest questions.. from now on, it's all out "rtfm noobs" to stupid questions then |
| 07:00.18 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 07:00.20 | lacindas | just link the wiki and nothing more lol |
| 07:00.52 | Iceroth | now that would be mean as there's no wiki page for icehud :P |
| 07:01.09 | Funkeh` | ingenious! |
| 07:01.12 | lacindas | haha even better! |
| 07:01.15 | lacindas | lol |
| 07:01.37 | Iceroth | i want a karma tracker! |
| 07:01.56 | lacindas | write one :P |
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| 07:02.12 | Funkeh` | oh on our server private forums we recently got it changed to shows you changes your karma, ooo the flames were tasty |
| 07:02.19 | Funkeh` | it showed a back log fo 30 |
| 07:02.24 | Funkeh` | of* |
| 07:02.25 | lacindas | oo lol nice |
| 07:02.36 | Iceroth | i'd need access to the db.. and i'm not even sure if the mod saves the info |
| 07:02.40 | Iceroth | mod = board |
| 07:03.28 | Funkeh` | suprisingly since that event its been mostly positive that purkes up :P |
| 07:05.04 | ckknight_ | regarding challenge vs. fun, frankly, I like scripted adventure games, because I play for the story, not for the challenge |
| 07:05.20 | Funkeh` | RP? :P |
| 07:05.22 | ckknight_ | frankly, I'd be happier with WoW if I never died :-P |
| 07:05.44 | ckknight_ | which though would defeat much of the challenge, I'd enjoy it more for the growth and storyline aspects |
| 07:05.45 | Industrial | im the opposite of that |
| 07:05.48 | ckknight_ | just me, though |
| 07:05.58 | Industrial | I want pvp pvp pvp pvp! |
| 07:06.13 | Funkeh` | i played only for the story, untill i joined my server top end game raid guild |
| 07:06.31 | Industrial | uncoordinated (or coordinated) mess where the strongest and best survive |
| 07:06.41 | Industrial | I want to compete and be better |
| 07:07.17 | ckknight_ | oh, PvP is fun |
| 07:07.20 | ckknight_ | I'm talking about PvE |
| 07:07.23 | ckknight_ | for PvP, I want a challenge |
| 07:07.27 | Funkeh` | dont like pve? |
| 07:07.33 | ckknight_ | I don't like dying. |
| 07:07.39 | Funkeh` | roll a priest |
| 07:07.48 | Industrial | Funkeh`: no not really |
| 07:07.51 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 07:08.01 | ckknight_ | I play a priest, normally |
| 07:08.05 | ckknight_ | priests die. |
| 07:08.15 | Funkeh` | we die, but normally last |
| 07:08.39 | Funkeh` | well, usually |
| 07:08.44 | Xuerian | Haha. |
| 07:08.45 | Funkeh` | mostly |
| 07:08.45 | Xuerian | Priests. |
| 07:08.47 | Xuerian | Dying last. |
| 07:08.49 | Funkeh` | sometimes |
| 07:08.49 | Xuerian | Haha. |
| 07:08.55 | Funkeh` | shh |
| 07:09.05 | Xuerian | You're only last if us druids are last-1 |
| 07:09.09 | Xuerian | er +1 |
| 07:09.16 | Xuerian | whatever :P |
| 07:09.17 | Greywind | aww no more lazy rogue? damnit i love grinding using that :P |
| 07:09.26 | Funkeh` | ./w xuerian inner plix |
| 07:09.39 | Xuerian | Hey, I'm a good drood |
| 07:09.41 | Xuerian | I watch mana |
| 07:09.57 | Funkeh` | really? i gotta cyber them for mana.. |
| 07:10.27 | Xuerian | I'm a freaking feral who heals in raids and pvp and innervates without request |
| 07:10.28 | Funkeh` | transfer to our server please |
| 07:10.41 | Xuerian | lol |
| 07:10.52 | Funkeh` | we get you to nax, inner me only, but dont tel em your feral |
| 07:10.59 | Xuerian | haha |
| 07:11.04 | Xuerian | I wish :P |
| 07:11.15 | Xuerian | Can't do more than MC and barely that, 56k suckage |
| 07:11.31 | Funkeh` | ok, so you can pass on thaddius |
| 07:11.41 | Xuerian | lol |
| 07:11.46 | Funkeh` | thaddius makes your whole server lag, really |
| 07:11.53 | Funkeh` | every instance evry area |
| 07:12.07 | Xuerian | Haha, really? Why? |
| 07:12.18 | Funkeh` | everyone knows when we do him, angry whispers, stop doing thaddius were trying to down emps! |
| 07:12.39 | Funkeh` | err, its old :p |
| 07:12.46 | Xuerian | lol :P |
| 07:12.52 | Funkeh` | but it was taken down for upgrades for ages this week |
| 07:12.58 | Funkeh` | havent tried thaddius since then |
| 07:13.47 | Xuerian | haha, maintenance for maintenance for maintenance on maintenance week? |
| 07:13.49 | Funkeh` | but having a whole serious of ace2 mods = godly on thaddius |
| 07:14.10 | Funkeh` | jsut this week i basically converted every single mod and noticed an amazing difference |
| 07:14.13 | Funkeh` | its such a heavy load fight |
| 07:14.27 | Xuerian | Heheh |
| 07:14.41 | Funkeh` | 50mb to 17 ;p |
| 07:14.52 | kergoth | hah |
| 07:14.53 | kergoth | nice |
| 07:15.21 | yacoob | hm, wardrobe-al has keybindings... |
| 07:15.34 | Funkeh` | ive got a whole private modding section on our guilds forum, been helping em all out converting lol :P |
| 07:15.57 | Xuerian | 80mb to 25~, then again, I can't live without itemrack & atlas/atlasloot, so I pay the extra tolls :P |
| 07:16.15 | Funkeh` | i have that and still at 17 ;p |
| 07:16.25 | Funkeh` | but i use wardrobe-al dont think that makes a difference |
| 07:16.41 | yacoob | Xuerian, Funkeh`: are you using auctioneer or anything else that scans the AH? |
| 07:16.45 | kergoth | i'm at 29 megs at login, around 33 in raids |
| 07:16.52 | Funkeh` | no ofc not |
| 07:16.54 | kergoth | up to around 60 when auctioneer loads :\ |
| 07:16.59 | Funkeh` | ditched that for my ui change this week |
| 07:17.01 | Greywind | ok the more i read about the new changes the more depressed i get |
| 07:17.03 | yacoob | exactly... :) |
| 07:17.06 | Funkeh` | anything that has a database = gone |
| 07:17.23 | kergoth | on that note, i love mobhealth3. no saving unless you want it to |
| 07:17.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:17.30 | Xuerian | Yacoob: No, I haven't loaded up auctioneer in ages. No item mods (I have itemrack with a 30k db, but I enable it via mcp when I need it) |
| 07:17.33 | Funkeh` | that = gone also |
| 07:17.35 | yacoob | Greywind, is there anything *confirmed* about that? |
| 07:17.37 | Xuerian | Well none but AL |
| 07:17.44 | Greywind | aye a lot of info |
| 07:17.52 | Xuerian | yacoob: It's ALL confirmed |
| 07:17.55 | Xuerian | well... |
| 07:17.57 | yacoob | Greywind, any urls? |
| 07:18.05 | Xuerian | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&sid=1&pageNo=7 |
| 07:18.07 | Greywind | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6447 |
| 07:18.15 | Funkeh` | sole hows it coming? |
| 07:18.55 | Greywind | although i am intrigued by the autolooting function |
| 07:19.26 | Sole | almost done |
| 07:19.35 | lacindas | ./cheer |
| 07:19.39 | Xuerian | I'm thinking it's just "Do you want to have to hold shift to loot everything, or do you want to do it every time" |
| 07:19.40 | lacindas | yay sole |
| 07:19.50 | yacoob | right... so how comes nurfed ui works? |
| 07:19.53 | yacoob | i mean, the unitframes. |
| 07:20.02 | Funkeh` | something to do with something :P |
| 07:20.07 | Greywind | Xuerian: aye im thinking the same thing |
| 07:20.13 | Xuerian | Because normally functioning unitrames are hardly changed at all |
| 07:20.20 | Xuerian | It's DOING things to those frames is the problem |
| 07:20.28 | Xuerian | Like click-casting. But it's not really so much a problem as a change |
| 07:20.38 | Greywind | it basically destroys emergency monitos |
| 07:20.39 | Funkeh` | idd |
| 07:20.45 | Greywind | monitors* |
| 07:20.46 | yacoob | Xuerian, nono, I don't give a flying fsck about click-casting |
| 07:20.46 | Xuerian | They still work... |
| 07:20.48 | Xuerian | You... just... |
| 07:20.50 | Xuerian | can't click them |
| 07:20.58 | yacoob | I'm more concerned about click-to-target. |
| 07:21.06 | Xuerian | That's easily done |
| 07:21.21 | Xuerian | On static frames anyway |
| 07:21.24 | Funkeh` | im sure there will be some way about it |
| 07:21.28 | Xuerian | Ptarg for example, will NOT work |
| 07:21.35 | Funkeh` | i mean they maanged to find a way around mana conserve and stuff |
| 07:21.36 | yacoob | wait |
| 07:21.46 | yacoob | static frames yes, dynamically generated no? |
| 07:22.20 | yacoob | First, why, what is the difference, second - can't you just make a monitor with 40 bars there, most of them hidden? |
| 07:22.35 | PProvost | night all |
| 07:22.38 | Funkeh` | nn |
| 07:22.41 | Xuerian | Because you can't move frames that can do actions in combat |
| 07:22.44 | Xuerian | they're protected |
| 07:22.47 | Xuerian | 'night PProvost |
| 07:23.02 | Xuerian | It's complicated, fucked up, but genious because it accomplishes exactly what blizzard wanted |
| 07:23.22 | Xuerian | And actually leaves us some room to work. |
| 07:23.23 | lacindas | night PProvost |
| 07:23.35 | yacoob | Xuerian, no moving, just hiding. |
| 07:23.41 | Xuerian | Sure |
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| 07:23.54 | Xuerian | That's the idea for Praid that tek and.... someone had, just make Praid ToT |
| 07:23.57 | Funkeh` | "You can easily bind specific spells to modified buttons, but you can't have the addon intelligently pick the rank of the spell. For example, you can set up a row of frames representing the folks you want to heal, and then bind "medium heal" to click, and then "big heal" to shift-click, or right click. Or you could have a column of info frames showing raid member status, and then have a menu of cleanse/heal type spells that p |
| 07:24.06 | Xuerian | Then highlight the frames however you feel like depending on whatever blah blah blah |
| 07:24.11 | Funkeh` | nice :) |
| 07:24.39 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: Well damn |
| 07:24.43 | Xuerian | That's a nice explination |
| 07:24.57 | Xuerian | I was thinking modifiers weren't going to work |
| 07:25.00 | Funkeh` | someone posted it in the squishy thread |
| 07:25.07 | Funkeh` | aparently a quote from blue |
| 07:25.08 | yacoob | as long as I can select people with click on the frame, I'm fine |
| 07:25.12 | Funkeh` | didnt post a link |
| 07:25.22 | Funkeh` | i think basically |
| 07:25.26 | Funkeh` | like mana conserve |
| 07:25.32 | Funkeh` | you gotta keep tapping buttons for that |
| 07:25.48 | Funkeh` | your probably gonan need to keep tapping a keybinding for eemon's to works |
| 07:25.51 | yacoob | Funkeh`, mana conserving is best implemented in /dev/brain :) |
| 07:26.12 | Funkeh` | yeah yac just an example :) |
| 07:26.15 | Funkeh` | never used one tbh |
| 07:26.29 | Funkeh` | was shocked when our healing died after patch cause of the amount of people that used it |
| 07:26.51 | Funkeh` | but, we adjusted, which is exactly what will happen in 2.0 |
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| 07:27.15 | yacoob | Neronix, the doom day comes! |
| 07:27.22 | yacoob | Save your buffers! Run for your life! |
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| 07:28.45 | Sole | big news is always loud and a lot of people will bitch and moan..but a few months down the line they'll have adjusted |
| 07:29.01 | Funkeh` | sole, qft :) |
| 07:29.15 | Xuerian | reluctantly, but nontheless qft.. |
| 07:30.24 | yacoob | I need an answer! Would agUF work? :) Perfectraid? Squishy? TELL ME NOW! :D |
| 07:31.01 | Neronix | yacoob: Havign just read that page, I would think so |
| 07:31.05 | Xuerian | agUF, yes. PRaid, yes. Squishy..... No targeting, but info yes |
| 07:31.15 | Funkeh` | "Maybe it would be a good idea to have "PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED" (or some other event) run when combat is started but before those protections get activated, so mods that present a different interface for combat can continue to work." |
| 07:31.21 | Funkeh` | "Not a bad idea, thanks! :)" |
| 07:31.22 | Neronix | they've given us the required tools to make the stuff under the new secrure system |
| 07:31.47 | yacoob | Xuerian, and this is the point I fail to understand. Praid has dynamically generated frames, right? So how come they could be click-to-target? |
| 07:31.53 | yacoob | and if they can, why squishy cannot? |
| 07:31.54 | Neronix | I think they'll make TargetUnit() available for those special unit buttons they're providing |
| 07:32.06 | Xuerian | yacoob: Because the frames are generated before entering combat |
| 07:32.29 | Funkeh` | " |
| 07:32.29 | Funkeh` | For instance, in Warsong Gulch, say I'm following our flag carrier and have him targetted, and the Horde starts hitting him. At the same time, one of my teammates (not the flag carrier) near me gets sheeped. Is there a way it won't be a pain to disspell the sheep while keeping my attention focused on the flag carrier? Could Decursive be changed so that I could, at the very least, still target the sheeped player really quick w |
| 07:32.32 | Xuerian | The divider between "static" and "dynamic" i made earlier is "unprotected" vs "Protected" states, IE "out of combat" vs "in combat", as I understand it |
| 07:32.41 | Funkeh` | "You no longer have to target a unit to cast a spell on it, if you have the spell pre-loaded into your buttons. For example, you can have your teammates arranged in a pleasing array, and when they get sheeped they can start glowing or flashing ... or just bleat... and then you can either click on them to dispel them or pop up a menu with the dispel action on it, depending on how you have things set up. ... while you're still |
| 07:32.53 | Funkeh` | sorry for spam :) |
| 07:33.08 | Xuerian | I haven't gotten a chance to read the thread, so spam = good |
| 07:33.20 | yacoob | hmm |
| 07:33.32 | Neronix | oo lala |
| 07:33.37 | Neronix | they redid the spellcast events |
| 07:33.43 | yacoob | still, when I look at bst and compare it to sct, I fail to believe blizz will implement *anything* good :) |
| 07:33.50 | Neronix | and added an event for when someone's target changes |
| 07:33.59 | Funkeh` | "Does this work when clicking on enemy players in the world frame? Could I say, set my UI so when i control click a hostile it'll Blind or Poly them, without losing my target (and in the case of a rogue, my combo points?)" |
| 07:34.09 | Funkeh` | "That's an interesting idea... :) No, it doesn't work like that right now." |
| 07:34.11 | Neronix | And they added a new unitid, focus |
| 07:34.16 | Xuerian | yacoob: It's not so much if they impliment their own addons well, it's the API, sct continues to prove that even if the addons they release aren't as good as the ones we can make, we can still make them |
| 07:34.44 | Xuerian | With the way they're making frames, they bloody mayaswel make click casting work on worldframe |
| 07:34.50 | Xuerian | click-actions* |
| 07:34.53 | Neronix | your focus and your target seem to be separate so you can have a unit frame for a boss while you have your MT targetted |
| 07:35.09 | Xuerian | Personal Player-target |
| 07:35.16 | Funkeh` | "Is casting different spells with the same keybinding based on whether or not your target is friendly now impossible?" |
| 07:35.23 | Funkeh` | "No, we're actually working on that as I type this. :)" |
| 07:35.36 | Xuerian | Hmnfh. |
| 07:35.41 | Xuerian | They might actually pull this off |
| 07:35.52 | Xuerian | But they're seriously working in circles to nerf what they don't like >_< |
| 07:37.06 | Greywind | I'm really hoping everything works out, so long as i can have a popup menu with my favorite healing spells and my decurse abilities ill be fine |
| 07:37.15 | Funkeh` | aye |
| 07:37.29 | Greywind | ill just learn to live with staring at 40(or25) raid frames |
| 07:37.30 | Xuerian | Grey: from what tekkub said earlier, that'll be perfectly possible |
| 07:37.30 | Funkeh` | "My general interpretation: one of the more recent changes was to make a single button or hardware event trigger a single spell. The gist of this change is to make it impossible to dynamically determine the target of that spell or the spell itself dynamically, and that the user will have to make that choice. Does that sound fair? I'm assuming that if that's true, you'll do your best to add workarounds for anything inadvertent |
| 07:37.37 | Funkeh` | "Actually, that's a common misconception. There is no limit to the number of spells that can be cast at once, other than cooldown and server response limitations. " |
| 07:38.02 | Greywind | i will seriously miss squishy though :( |
| 07:38.12 | Xuerian | qft, grey =\ |
| 07:38.36 | yacoob | Greywind, cannot it be done the way I described before? |
| 07:38.44 | Funkeh` | there will be macros to target the first person on the squishy list and then heal then with a sesignated heal according to their health i think |
| 07:38.45 | yacoob | 40 bars, pregenerated, most of them hidden? |
| 07:38.49 | Xuerian | Yea, but then it'd still be 40 rows high |
| 07:38.56 | Xuerian | even if some were hidden |
| 07:39.12 | yacoob | Xuerian, I don't need no border |
| 07:39.19 | Xuerian | border? |
| 07:39.21 | Greywind | I really dont know what to expect until i get my hands on BC |
| 07:39.38 | yacoob | Xuerian, imagine just bars stacked on one another |
| 07:39.40 | Greywind | im gonna just try to take an optimistic aproach to it |
| 07:39.49 | yacoob | tied to itself |
| 07:39.55 | Greywind | all i can say is thank goodness for Praid |
| 07:40.02 | yacoob | upper left corner of bottom bar, to lower left of upper |
| 07:40.05 | Xuerian | qft again. |
| 07:40.13 | Greywind | at least i can stand looking at those raid frames |
| 07:40.37 | yacoob | if you hide one, would it leave free space or the space would be gone? |
| 07:40.50 | Greywind | i dont think you can hide or move them |
| 07:41.00 | Neronix | I'm more interested in the possibilites that the focus unitid will bring |
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| 07:42.56 | Neronix | Anyways, before te end of the day, I want to get NS2 fixed, polished for trunk and the deathstimator module done |
| 07:42.56 | yacoob | oh well. you live on. |
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| 07:48.19 | Grey|away | anybody tried Firefox 2.0 beta? I wonder if it works with chatzilla, cause i dont want to break it hehe |
| 07:49.46 | Xuerian | So long as you dig up the setting to disable disabling out of date addons |
| 07:52.40 | Xuerian | Should even work with 3 |
| 07:52.49 | Xuerian | but that might be pushing it XD |
| 07:55.27 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r13227 10ColaLight/ (. Core.lua): ColaLight: Fix "ColaLight\Core.lua:168: attempt to index field `SellValues' (a nil value)" by registering defaults. |
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| 08:01.55 | Kemayo | Grey|away: You'll probably need to get the Nightly Tester Tools extension to make Chatzilla run... but it should work. |
| 08:02.11 | Grey|away | hmm i didnt have to do anything |
| 08:02.15 | Grey|away | its working fine |
| 08:02.28 | Kemayo | Then they're more dilligent about updating ChatZilla than they are about some other extensions. |
| 08:02.45 | Grey|away | i guess so, im using a nightly build |
| 08:03.10 | Grey|away | the new theme looks nice |
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| 08:05.11 | Xuerian | Can't live without smart/smooth scroller. XD |
| 08:05.22 | Xuerian | was a pain to get that to work since no one updates it :( |
| 08:05.25 | Neronix | How does ColaLight compare to Ludwig_SellValue? |
| 08:05.50 | Kemayo | Neronix: I have no idea, for I have never used Ludwid_SellValue. Does Ludwig_SellValue add the prices to tooltips? |
| 08:05.58 | kergoth | yep |
| 08:06.01 | Neronix | Yeah |
| 08:06.11 | Neronix | I mean performance/memory-wise |
| 08:06.39 | yacoob | Cat loves me. Too bad he sits on my trackball. |
| 08:06.45 | Wobin | omg. so cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75NhFaZyFrA |
| 08:06.50 | kergoth | ludwig_sellvalue uses no libs, stores prices by itemid... |
| 08:06.57 | kergoth | i see no erason to grab an ace2 addon to do the same thing |
| 08:07.01 | kergoth | myself, anyway |
| 08:07.46 | yacoob | Neronix, kc_items too big? |
| 08:08.05 | Kemayo | My only hesitation on using Ludwig was that it's not on SVN. |
| 08:09.02 | yacoob | bleeding edge addict? |
| 08:09.24 | Kemayo | That's me. And probably 80% of the people in this channel... |
| 08:09.46 | Xuerian | svn is like crack. |
| 08:11.05 | Neronix | yacoob: I don't need all the stuff it provides |
| 08:11.08 | kergoth | its a sell value addon |
| 08:11.10 | kergoth | it doesnt need updates |
| 08:11.11 | kergoth | :P |
| 08:11.21 | Kemayo | I... don't understand. |
| 08:11.58 | yacoob | Neronix, mhm :> |
| 08:12.08 | yacoob | Kemayo, I'm different. I prefer stable to bleeding edge :) |
| 08:12.23 | yacoob | Neronix, well, I need AH prices too. And links typing |
| 08:12.28 | Kemayo | Bleeding edge is surprisingly stable, mostly. At least for WoW addons. :) |
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| 08:12.39 | Neronix | I use Auctioneer for that |
| 08:12.40 | yacoob | Unless it is not, so yes, no big deal :P |
| 08:12.41 | Neronix | I dunno why |
| 08:12.54 | Grey|away | Wobin: damn that is an awesome video |
| 08:12.58 | Neronix | At least I only load it when I'm on my mule |
| 08:13.00 | yacoob | Neronix, from what I noticed, kc_items is lighter on memory |
| 08:13.05 | Kemayo | I have the same view on KCI. I like Auctioneer's AH stuff more, and Mendeleev's info-tooltips better. |
| 08:13.09 | Wobin | Isn't it? =) Great animation |
| 08:13.28 | Neronix | Yeah, it has some features that I need |
| 08:13.32 | Kemayo | Auctioneer is indeed a massive, massive, massive memory hog. But it's LoD, so it mostly doesn't affect me. |
| 08:13.53 | Kemayo | Auctioneer really does use almost as much memory as all the rest of the addons I use combined. |
| 08:14.05 | FISKER_Q | I think it's been better than when they started :P |
| 08:14.29 | yacoob | well, the main problem for me is not having 'saveperrealm' |
| 08:14.38 | yacoob | four ah dumps in memory (four servers) = bad! |
| 08:14.54 | Neronix | That's a blizzard problem |
| 08:15.01 | yacoob | but it hits us :) |
| 08:15.13 | yacoob | Kemayo, what is Mendeleev, and should I check it out? :) |
| 08:15.21 | yacoob | (I'm not bleeding edge, but YES I'M CURIOUS! :) |
| 08:15.31 | Kemayo | yacoob: It's an interface to PeriodicTable, basically. Adds info to the tooltip. |
| 08:16.12 | Grey|away | oh forgot i tivoed BattleStar Gallactica, sweet |
| 08:16.17 | Kemayo | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4470 |
| 08:16.34 | Kemayo | There's a version in branches that's most of the way being upgraded to Ace2. |
| 08:17.31 | MoonWolf | there is a version in trunk that is half way through upgrades |
| 08:17.34 | MoonWolf | and perfectly fine working |
| 08:17.38 | MoonWolf | except for the missing libs. |
| 08:17.56 | Xuerian | Ok, I give the hell up |
| 08:18.02 | Neronix | If you have another mod that uses PT, then the memory usage is low |
| 08:18.06 | Xuerian | 'night all >_< |
| 08:18.22 | yacoob | night elf all? |
| 08:18.33 | Xuerian | Yes, this night elf is going to bed. |
| 08:18.35 | yacoob | Neronix, I don't. Or I don't seem to know I do :) |
| 08:18.36 | Kemayo | MoonWolf: Ah, I didn't notice the branches moving over. :) |
| 08:18.52 | Neronix | yacoob: Got XAD or GarbageFu? |
| 08:19.21 | yacoob | Neronix, the latter |
| 08:20.05 | Neronix | That uses PT |
| 08:20.20 | yacoob | Mhm, I see the directory, but it seems to be... small |
| 08:20.21 | Neronix | <-- 16MB |
| 08:20.37 | yacoob | only food, tradeskills and misc |
| 08:20.48 | Wobin | Die in a FX loo? |
| 08:20.56 | Wobin | wow. |
| 08:20.59 | Wobin | That's... specific |
| 08:22.55 | yacoob | wow, the numbers of warmup are now *really* fscked up :) |
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| 08:23.19 | yacoob | http://hell.pl/yacoob/map.txt |
| 08:23.40 | yacoob | Improved Camera is like 429 bytes of code with no variables at all :D |
| 08:24.12 | yacoob | or, hm, my sorting script is borked :) |
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| 08:28.06 | Wobin | why does gtalk insist on adding people who quite obviously have no gtalk account to my 'friends' list? |
| 08:28.38 | yacoob | it has borg mentality |
| 08:28.43 | krka | how would it know which accounts dont have gtalk? |
| 08:28.43 | Kemayo | It can talk to people who use Jabber, so having a gmail address isn't necessary. |
| 08:28.58 | krka | what Kemayo said |
| 08:28.58 | Wobin | okay |
| 08:29.00 | Wobin | true |
| 08:29.06 | Wobin | I'll rephrase |
| 08:29.06 | FISKER_Q | omg yacoob KEYLOGGER |
| 08:29.34 | Wobin | Why does gtalk insist on adding to my gtalk friends list, people who I have only emailed, and have never indicated that I wish to see if they even have jabber or the like |
| 08:29.51 | Wobin | (ie stop making these decisions for me kthxbye) |
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| 08:35.24 | lacindas | night folks :) |
| 08:35.37 | yacoob | much better |
| 08:35.42 | yacoob | http://hell.pl/yacoob/map.txt |
| 08:36.34 | yacoob | now, what can be improved here... :) |
| 08:37.07 | Snago | yacoob: what did you use to get that list? |
| 08:37.31 | krka | du? |
| 08:37.33 | yacoob | warmup and some perl |
| 08:37.41 | yacoob | krka, that's initial mem usage, not disk usage |
| 08:37.50 | krka | i see |
| 08:38.05 | krka | how do you count memory? |
| 08:38.11 | yacoob | still it's a bit unclear, because of the embeeded libs |
| 08:38.11 | krka | since it can be shared between addons |
| 08:38.13 | Machine_ | 1, 2, 3, 4, ... |
| 08:38.26 | yacoob | krka, warmup. And yes, it doesn't shows up right |
| 08:38.34 | krka | yeah, but which memory goes to which addon |
| 08:38.37 | krka | example: |
| 08:38.51 | krka | Addon A uses the string "wtf?!?!" and so adds it to memory |
| 08:39.03 | Wobin | 1 |
| 08:39.04 | krka | Addon B also uses the string, but that doesn't add memory overhead |
| 08:39.06 | Wobin | 1 memory. |
| 08:39.08 | Wobin | Ha ha ha |
| 08:39.10 | Wobin | 2! |
| 08:39.13 | Wobin | 2 Memory! |
| 08:39.13 | krka | then A stops using the string |
| 08:39.15 | Wobin | Ha ha ha |
| 08:39.21 | yacoob | Wobin, /nick count_duckula :P |
| 08:39.22 | krka | but it still counts as if A i using it? |
| 08:39.28 | kergoth | eep, the count |
| 08:40.05 | yacoob | krka, probably. I haven't looked under warmup's hood |
| 08:40.06 | Wobin | krka: yay for shared memory space |
| 08:40.16 | Wobin | krka: I would assume yes |
| 08:40.36 | Wobin | Why the sudden affection? =) |
| 08:40.38 | yacoob | http://homepages.tesco.net/~janefisk/discworld/discworld.htm |
| 08:40.41 | FISKER_Q | dunno |
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| 08:40.47 | yacoob | Wobin, he wants you badly perhaps? |
| 08:40.48 | Machine_ | i'm bored. all my friends are either out of town or sick |
| 08:40.50 | FISKER_Q | i'm insane |
| 08:40.52 | yacoob | (to write an addon of course!) |
| 08:40.54 | Wobin | rawr |
| 08:40.58 | Wobin | aw |
| 08:41.11 | FISKER_Q | no addons just kisses :o |
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| 08:44.14 | yacoob | hm, it looks like I cannot drop anything from my list |
| 08:44.33 | Snago | Anyone know if there's any way to add a frame that should be adjusted by Jostle? Or maybe another library/addon that does something similar |
| 08:45.43 | Gngsk | I think oSkin does something like that |
| 08:45.55 | Wobin | Snago: just add the frame name to the list in jostle |
| 08:46.02 | Wobin | and commit it =P |
| 08:48.04 | Machine_ | hm, was Tablet renamed from TabletLib recently? |
| 08:48.17 | Wobin | not recently I do't think? |
| 08:49.09 | Machine_ | i'm getting errors in nanostats (w/o externals) complaining it can't find global 'TabletLib' |
| 08:49.27 | Snago | can I add to the list at run-time? or does the "local" before the list prevent that? |
| 08:50.17 | Wobin | Tablet is read in as tabletlib in the code |
| 08:50.25 | Machine_ | ooh, it's looking for tablet 1.0 |
| 08:50.46 | yacoob | Snago, afaik, there are no access restrictions in lua, so as long as you "see" variable, you can modify it |
| 08:51.02 | yacoob | (the problem is, it could be a local without any "access" from "outside" :) |
| 08:51.10 | Wobin | which it is |
| 08:51.15 | Wobin | (knowing ckknight) |
| 08:51.37 | Machine_ | yeah, even with externals it seems like it's overriden by the 2.0 from !!!libs |
| 08:51.39 | Wobin | er |
| 08:51.40 | Wobin | although |
| 08:51.43 | yacoob | bad idea: make it accessible |
| 08:51.47 | Wobin | you can register a frame with jostle |
| 08:51.53 | yacoob | better idea: write methods for that :) |
| 08:51.56 | Wobin | by using Jostle's API =P |
| 08:52.02 | Wobin | Go. Read. |
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| 08:53.32 | Machine_ | go me trying to login with caps lock down and nearly having a heartattack when my password is rejected over and over again |
| 08:53.39 | mjc | moo |
| 08:53.43 | Snago | i can register a frame that adjusts the default blizzard frames (like fubar), but i want to register a frame that should be adjusted by fubar :\ |
| 08:53.46 | yacoob | Wobin, "multiply"? |
| 08:54.06 | Wobin | yacoob: well I would probably have used "Learn" |
| 08:54.20 | Kemayo | Snago: Suggest an API improvement to ckknight_ when he's around, I guess. It does sound useful. |
| 08:54.53 | [Ammo] | morning |
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| 08:55.40 | Snago | ok, i'll do that |
| 08:56.05 | mjc | Snago: I'd love for all my ace mods to support that |
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| 08:58.40 | yacoob | Hmmm. |
| 08:58.52 | yacoob | 9 addons with fubar 1.2 plugins |
| 08:59.04 | yacoob | perhaps THIS is something I could change? :) |
| 09:01.48 | Royal | You're looking for a mod to code? :) |
| 09:02.32 | yacoob | no, update :P |
| 09:02.52 | mjc | go for it |
| 09:03.05 | yacoob | FactionsFu, TinyPadFu, MetaMap (yuck!), MrPlow, ReagentFu, EmoteFu, FarmerFu, MacroFu, TrackerFu |
| 09:03.06 | mjc | you know what else I'd like for fubar? |
| 09:03.14 | mjc | to be able to make the bar not take up the whole width of the screen |
| 09:03.17 | yacoob | factions, plow, farmer, tracker are on files |
| 09:03.29 | mjc | yacoob: mrplow branch is ace2 and fubar2 |
| 09:03.39 | yacoob | mjc, it was talked about just yesterday, rightclick the edge and drag? |
| 09:04.12 | yacoob | well, leftclick. But it works |
| 09:04.20 | Royal | I'm kinda not a lua-hero, and I'm trying to ace (is that how you call it?) an addon (being a heavily modified version of GetDKP for my guild). Any tuts on how to get started? Like Dewdrop tuts or smth |
| 09:04.51 | Gngsk | I'd love to see vertical panels in fubar, for icon only usage |
| 09:04.54 | Royal | Looked at some of the tuts on wowace, but it's not all there I think :P |
| 09:04.59 | mjc | yacoob: I can't get that to do anything |
| 09:05.10 | mjc | Gngsk: rather not restrict it to icon only :) |
| 09:05.38 | mjc | oh I got it to do that |
| 09:05.39 | mjc | nice |
| 09:05.40 | Gngsk | yea, I guess. but that's all I'd use it for |
| 09:05.50 | yacoob | mjc, I was about to say "well, works for me" :) |
| 09:05.58 | yacoob | mjc, and where can I get this branch of mrplow? |
| 09:06.24 | Gngsk | !branches MrPlow |
| 09:06.27 | SVNBot | The latest revision of MrPlow is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/branches/MrPlow/ |
| 09:06.34 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13228 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: |
| 09:06.34 | CIA-17 | BigWigs (C'Thun): |
| 09:06.34 | CIA-17 | * oh noes they're raping us |
| 09:06.59 | mjc | ammo: heh |
| 09:07.09 | [Ammo] | whinging sods |
| 09:07.11 | mjc | ~seen ckknight |
| 09:07.27 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-191.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 28m 46s ago, saying: 'now a keypress has to be properly placed'. |
| 09:07.57 | mjc | yacoob: I don't like the way that's done. hard to make it really small |
| 09:08.10 | mjc | I'd like mine to be like 200px wide and overflow |
| 09:08.47 | yacoob | well... nothing I can help with :) |
| 09:08.51 | *** join/#wowace [Wobin] (i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au) |
| 09:08.54 | mjc | I know |
| 09:08.57 | mjc | just thought I'd offer |
| 09:08.59 | mjc | zomg wobutt |
| 09:10.02 | yacoob | right... metamap, reagentfu, emotefu, macrofu. |
| 09:10.13 | yacoob | while I can ditch emote, three others are rather important :) |
| 09:11.54 | Mikma | !notes Antagonist |
| 09:11.54 | SVNBot | Antagonist Notes: Tracks enemy casting times, buffs and cooldowns. || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Antagonist |
| 09:12.07 | mjc | metamap :( |
| 09:12.22 | Gngsk | ckknight's metamap? |
| 09:12.36 | yacoob | Urshurak's. |
| 09:13.14 | [Ammo] | ~seen Saroz |
| 09:13.17 | purl | saroz is currently on #wowace (19h 12m 16s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 11h 12m 19s, last said: 'hrrrm, yea'. |
| 09:13.49 | Kemayo | Good riddance to that memory hog, I say! |
| 09:13.49 | Mikma | Kemayo: yes, the changes did help btw ;) |
| 09:14.12 | yacoob | Kemayo, that would be my next step, but I'm afraid I have way too many ace1 mods :) |
| 09:14.15 | Kemayo | Good to know. :) |
| 09:14.17 | mjc | Kemayo: at least it's not as bad as virtual pc |
| 09:15.54 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13229 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua: BigWigs (Twins): 10 second warning for teleport |
| 09:16.08 | oxman | with which version of aguf you can see portrait ? |
| 09:16.12 | oxman | Kemayo ? nevcairiel ? |
| 09:17.12 | Kemayo | Kemayo. |
| 09:17.25 | oxman | merci |
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| 09:22.31 | yacoob | ...only metamap left. Hrmph. |
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| 09:22.57 | yacoob | to make it more funnier, I do not use the plugin itself, but it's integrated and I see no way of turning it off |
| 09:23.37 | mjc | you are using embeds? |
| 09:23.42 | yacoob | yup |
| 09:24.02 | yacoob | hell, I'll simply comment metamap_fubar_onload call :P |
| 09:24.29 | kergoth | [Ammo]: does candybars support bars with an indefinate time? i.e. always display the bar until the user manually stops it |
| 09:24.36 | [Ammo] | no |
| 09:24.42 | [Ammo] | becauase that doesn't make sense |
| 09:24.46 | oxman | +1 [Ammo] |
| 09:24.47 | oxman | :) |
| 09:25.02 | kergoth | then i guess we'll never see the new elkbuffbar work properly |
| 09:25.16 | vhaarr | Anyone know how to touch a file in Windows? |
| 09:25.17 | kergoth | it uses candybars, and there are buffs without a time |
| 09:25.18 | oxman | how could you put a halth bar at 50% of time, because 50% of infinite is infinite ^^ |
| 09:25.36 | [Ammo] | kergoth: you can pause a bar at 0 and remove the timer text |
| 09:25.43 | [Ammo] | kergoth: that will do exactly what you want |
| 09:25.50 | kergoth | i already did, was just wondering if there was a cleaner way ;) |
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| 09:25.57 | kergoth | but okay, that works |
| 09:25.58 | [Ammo] | kergoth: not right now |
| 09:26.08 | kergoth | no worries, as long as theres a workable solution |
| 09:26.21 | yacoob | AHEM |
| 09:26.24 | yacoob | Something is very wrong. |
| 09:26.43 | yacoob | Right-click menus from fubar disappear randomly |
| 09:27.05 | yacoob | which lib is that? |
| 09:27.09 | yacoob | dewdrop? |
| 09:27.55 | vhaarr | Yes. |
| 09:32.00 | yacoob | [2006/10/07 11:31:29-304]: FuBar_SkillsPlusFu\SkillsPlusFu.lua:673: attempt to index global `FuBarUtils' (a nil value) |
| 09:32.04 | yacoob | Nooo :( |
| 09:32.52 | mjc | kergoth: I'm mirroring dev now too :( |
| 09:32.59 | kergoth | :( |
| 09:33.15 | FISKER_Q | someone needs to kill the guy who screwed up battlegroundfu |
| 09:33.16 | FISKER_Q | imo |
| 09:33.29 | mjc | can't make commits when mirroring svn obviously |
| 09:33.31 | FISKER_Q | oh i believe that was you kergoth |
| 09:33.35 | yacoob | how screwed it is? |
| 09:33.48 | Mikma | mjc: i hope you mirrored dev.wowace.com ;) |
| 09:33.55 | mjc | Mikma: yeah |
| 09:34.07 | FISKER_Q | Well the icon was removed and also all options from the plugin |
| 09:34.11 | FISKER_Q | Now it's just a tooltip |
| 09:34.53 | Machine_ | hm, downloading addons without externals broke quite alot of them |
| 09:35.13 | mjc | Machine_: !!!Libs |
| 09:35.31 | Machine_ | mjc: yeah, i got that one, still they're broke |
| 09:35.40 | mjc | wfm |
| 09:35.47 | Machine_ | ocd doesn't track cooldowns like frost nova, but evocation worked |
| 09:36.05 | Machine_ | nanostats broke completely due to something having to do with tablet |
| 09:36.41 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13230 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.toc: BanzaiAlert: Since I don't know how to touch files in Windows, consider this a "touch" to get it rezipped. |
| 09:37.13 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/BanzaiAlert |
| 09:37.32 | MoonWolf | rabbit is so dirty |
| 09:37.35 | mjc | vhaarr: anything to update the modification date |
| 09:37.36 | MoonWolf | he is touching things. |
| 09:37.54 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13231 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Anubrekhan.lua: BigWigs (Anubrekhan): added casting timer bar |
| 09:38.19 | FISKER_Q | anyway you can make outlook check the inbox for spam and put it in the junk-emails? |
| 09:38.26 | FISKER_Q | you know retroactively |
| 09:38.34 | mjc | http://www.codeproject.com/tools/touch_win.asp |
| 09:38.46 | mjc | FISKER_Q: outbreak |
| 09:38.55 | FISKER_Q | ? |
| 09:39.09 | mjc | you use outbreak |
| 09:39.14 | FISKER_Q | i don't |
| 09:39.26 | yacoob | urgh. SkillplusFu and TrackerFu broken without compat 1.2 :( |
| 09:39.29 | mjc | you just asked about it |
| 09:39.55 | FISKER_Q | link then |
| 09:39.59 | Royal | Is there any tut on how to make a dewdrop menu thingie |
| 09:40.28 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13232 10BigWigs/MC/Magmadar.lua: BigWigs (Magmadar): Fear timer is now sync'd |
| 09:40.47 | mjc | ammo: <3 |
| 09:41.29 | FISKER_Q | so what was outbreak? |
| 09:41.34 | FISKER_Q | and where can i get it? |
| 09:41.48 | mjc | outlook = outbreak |
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| 09:42.43 | FISKER_Q | ok |
| 09:42.44 | FISKER_Q | :O |
| 09:42.46 | FISKER_Q | so |
| 09:42.49 | FISKER_Q | give some info then |
| 09:42.59 | FISKER_Q | aka i got no clue what you're talking about |
| 09:44.03 | yacoob | Was FuBarUtils a 1.2 thingy? |
| 09:48.03 | mjc | FISKER_Q: outlook is also known as outbreak |
| 09:48.09 | mjc | because it's a virus laden piece of shit :) |
| 09:50.13 | FISKER_Q | less bullshit-zealotry and a lot more shut the hell up |
| 09:50.35 | yacoob | hehe, fixed both problems |
| 09:50.37 | yacoob | *flex* |
| 09:51.25 | mjc | FISKER_Q: filters |
| 09:51.42 | mjc | same as any other email client |
| 09:52.13 | FISKER_Q | yeah but it doesn't filter current emails but recieved emails |
| 09:52.17 | Royal | How do I start when I wanna make a dewdrop menu? Do chatcommands that I register automatically get put in the menu as well or what? |
| 09:52.20 | FISKER_Q | that is why i asked for it to be retroactive :o |
| 09:52.30 | mjc | FISKER_Q: rerun filter on inbox |
| 09:53.34 | FISKER_Q | That's what i'm asking on how to do |
| 09:53.46 | mjc | ctrl-y ? something like that |
| 09:54.25 | yacoob | The time has come. Largest and fastest growing frames on teksupport list are Blizz's. |
| 09:54.30 | yacoob | ...time to rewrite WoW! |
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| 09:56.05 | FISKER_Q | not ctrl+y :P |
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| 09:59.24 | Mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/pennyarcade/903/20061006.jpg |
| 10:02.47 | CIA-17 | 03moonwolf * r13233 10Mendeleev/ (MendeleevCats.lua MendeleevGlobals.lua): |
| 10:02.47 | CIA-17 | Mendeleev: |
| 10:02.47 | CIA-17 | - Split up design for loot table categories |
| 10:02.47 | CIA-17 | - Added Dire Maul back in (east, west and north combined) |
| 10:02.47 | CIA-17 | - Added a reputation item category |
| 10:02.47 | CIA-17 | - Added a world Boss Drop category |
| 10:02.49 | CIA-17 | - Added a Elemental Invasion bosses drop category |
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| 10:03.09 | Sole | WATUP |
| 10:03.27 | MoonWolf | da ceiling. |
| 10:03.42 | [Ammo] | MoonWolf: am I correct in assuming the externals for mendy are wrong/ |
| 10:03.46 | [Ammo] | at least i had to adjust my .toc |
| 10:03.50 | MoonWolf | there are none |
| 10:03.59 | Worf | hmm... i think i have to contact clad when he's awake... it seems i'm unable to connect to the svn... either my account is inactive or i lost my password or so |
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| 10:04.18 | Worf | anybody but clad who has access to the svn accounts? |
| 10:04.22 | MoonWolf | broke them intentionally so i don't have to listen to people whining that mendy is broken here or there while I am recoding most of it. |
| 10:04.38 | MoonWolf | they should learn what trunk means. |
| 10:04.42 | Sole | man wtf |
| 10:04.43 | CIA-17 | 03ammo * r13234 10BigWigs/Plugins/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs (BossBlock): Don't let the french in! Seal the harbor! |
| 10:04.47 | Sole | my vent is all fucked up |
| 10:04.47 | [Ammo] | hehe MoonWolf :) |
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| 10:04.55 | Sole | my net is fine but Ive got 10k vent ping |
| 10:05.00 | [Ammo] | well I just edit my .toc to point them in the correct direction |
| 10:05.00 | Sole | anybody experienced that before?\ |
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| 10:05.12 | MoonWolf | yes its called, bad connection to your vent server. |
| 10:05.21 | Sole | well it was fine for a year.... |
| 10:05.24 | Sole | so ahh >_< |
| 10:05.25 | MoonWolf | ammo, brilliant! |
| 10:07.00 | FISKER_Q | your isp is throttling! |
| 10:07.03 | FISKER_Q | noes |
| 10:07.05 | FISKER_Q | 640x480 |
| 10:07.08 | FISKER_Q | stupid drivers |
| 10:07.23 | FISKER_Q | just gonna get my settings restored brb |
| 10:07.58 | yacoob | hm |
| 10:08.08 | CIA-17 | 03moonwolf * r13235 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Instance/PTEmbedElemInstance.lua: |
| 10:08.08 | CIA-17 | PeriodicTable: |
| 10:08.08 | CIA-17 | - Added a generic DireMaul (north east and west) |
| 10:08.09 | yacoob | I just thought up something to save emergency monitors |
| 10:08.16 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13236 10BigWigs/MC/BaronGeddon.lua: |
| 10:08.16 | CIA-17 | BigWigs: Geddon: |
| 10:08.16 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.16 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:08.23 | yacoob | ah, or not. Move is not allowed. Bah. |
| 10:08.56 | yacoob | anyway, I see a "healing addon" like 8x5 grid of 5x5 icons, icon change colors according to amount of hp left |
| 10:08.56 | nevcairiel | what does last service on geddon do anyway? i always see the yell but nothing fancy happens ( what i would notice :D ) |
| 10:09.10 | MoonWolf | explode if he doesn't die in a certain period |
| 10:09.11 | vhaarr | he explodes for 8-9k after 5 secodns |
| 10:09.13 | MoonWolf | it almost never happens. |
| 10:09.15 | vhaarr | if you don't kill him |
| 10:09.23 | Sole | FISKER: so should I ring my ISP and yell at em? |
| 10:09.36 | Sole | nev: stand next to him when you get the msg :) |
| 10:09.39 | Sole | nev: its kinda fun... |
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| 10:11.27 | [Ammo] | anyone here use XAD? |
| 10:11.31 | [Ammo] | how can I add items to it? |
| 10:11.39 | Mikma | [Ammo]: drag&drop |
| 10:12.01 | [Ammo] | it refuses to drop on it |
| 10:12.08 | [Ammo] | bandages, pots, AQ mount |
| 10:12.10 | [Ammo] | nothing works |
| 10:12.15 | Mikma | some otems seem to be disappearing when added |
| 10:12.35 | [Ammo] | doh |
| 10:12.39 | [Ammo] | can't drop on it when locked! |
| 10:12.41 | [Ammo] | unlocked i mean |
| 10:12.43 | [Ammo] | sigh |
| 10:12.47 | Mikma | lol? |
| 10:13.26 | [Ammo] | I guess the dragthing is over the drop stuff then |
| 10:14.11 | [Ammo] | wish it would work for wands :) |
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| 10:14.30 | [Ammo] | and trinkets |
| 10:14.36 | [Ammo] | useless for now I guess :) |
| 10:15.01 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth 07elkano * r13237 10ElkBuffBar/ebb_ace2/ (ElkBuffBar.lua Textures/ Textures/banto.tga): |
| 10:15.01 | CIA-17 | ElkBuffBar (ebb_ace2 branch): |
| 10:15.01 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:15.02 | CIA-17 | * Add a default bar texture (banto for now, but anything would be better than nil...) |
| 10:15.02 | CIA-17 | * Fix the issue with tempenchants (poisons, etc) not showing up when you apply them. |
| 10:15.02 | CIA-17 | * Fix the issue with buffs/debuffs with no time (i.e. leader of the pack). |
| 10:15.39 | vhaarr | Why does table.getn(..) return 0 for a keyed table? |
| 10:16.04 | vhaarr | I just want to know if the table is empty or not. |
| 10:16.05 | mjc | cause it hates you |
| 10:16.06 | yacoob | hm |
| 10:16.08 | [Ammo] | becasue table.getn is supposed to be used on tables that are built with table.insert |
| 10:16.10 | krka | use next |
| 10:16.14 | yacoob | is there a fubar2 version of aspectfu? |
| 10:16.18 | krka | if next(t) then ... |
| 10:16.22 | vhaarr | so it's |if next(table) then| ? |
| 10:16.23 | [Ammo] | yeah what krka says |
| 10:16.24 | vhaarr | right |
| 10:16.26 | vhaarr | thanks |
| 10:16.37 | mjc | Committed revision 34792 from revision 9621. |
| 10:16.40 | mjc | this is taking forever. |
| 10:16.49 | krka | TableNotEmpty = next if you wish :) |
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| 10:17.02 | vhaarr | krka: hm? |
| 10:18.02 | [Ammo] | what krka means is you can do: TableNotempty = next |
| 10:18.11 | [Ammo] | and then if TableNotEmpty( table) then |
| 10:18.12 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 10:18.19 | yacoob | is there an ace2 version of KC_ET? |
| 10:18.20 | vhaarr | ah hehe |
| 10:18.28 | mjc | yacoob: no |
| 10:19.00 | yacoob | mjc, bah. That stops me from ditching Ace1 :) |
| 10:19.17 | yacoob | (AcePlayerMenu, CgCrafty, KC_ET, Squeenix - only those left) |
| 10:19.33 | [Ammo] | Squeenix = ace2 |
| 10:19.51 | Sole | "usage must be a string" - AceConsole error, AFAIK Im giving it a string |
| 10:19.53 | [Ammo] | and I think the author of playermenu wen't deuce as well |
| 10:20.03 | yacoob | yep, I see it |
| 10:20.22 | yacoob | as for squeenix - its .toc says Ace not Ace2 :D |
| 10:20.48 | Grey|away | ok I'm beggining to understand the new changes, I'm annoyed that i wont be able to use squishy but so long as I can still use perfect raid ill be fine |
| 10:21.32 | Greywind | I'm actually thinking this will make pvp more enjoyable for me |
| 10:21.50 | [Ammo] | no it doesn't yacoob |
| 10:22.21 | Greywind | squeenix has been dueced for awhile now |
| 10:22.29 | [Ammo] | yeah I did it |
| 10:22.37 | [Ammo] | but now I see ag' added his x-credits for deucing it meh |
| 10:22.43 | [Ammo] | not that I care much :) |
| 10:22.44 | [Ammo] | ## Title: Squeenix |cff7fff7f -Ace2-|r |
| 10:22.45 | [Ammo] | etc.. |
| 10:22.47 | yacoob | Old version then. |
| 10:22.50 | Greywind | lol |
| 10:23.25 | yacoob | I was grepping though .tocs for 'Depend.*:.*Ace[!2]' :) |
| 10:23.42 | Greywind | i swear they really should have let Slouken release the info, Tyren did a very bad job at telling us what was coming |
| 10:23.56 | yacoob | but KC_ET is something I find useful, and therefore, I'm stuck with Ace1. |
| 10:24.34 | Greywind | poor Slouken, I feel bad for him. I just know he is gonna get blamed for "breaking" WoW |
| 10:24.59 | Greywind | when he seems to be doing all he can to replace the old functions with new protected functions |
| 10:25.14 | Neebler | ...and now to randomly interrupt your everyday commonplace WoW addon chatter in #wowace with a comical video: http://www.machovideo.com/videos.php?article=1664 |
| 10:25.29 | yacoob | Greywind, he? Or developers? I think he has little influence on them... |
| 10:26.00 | Greywind | He is a dev :P |
| 10:26.16 | Greywind | Neebler: wtf mate? that isnt funny |
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| 10:26.28 | FISKER_Q | QQ |
| 10:26.31 | Neebler | funny to me :P |
| 10:26.44 | Neebler | perhaps its because I'm so desensatized. I'd make a great serial killer |
| 10:26.50 | Greywind | o.0 |
| 10:26.52 | yacoob | Greywind, he is? |
| 10:27.00 | Greywind | yes Slouken is mate |
| 10:27.13 | FISKER_Q | join #horsedick |
| 10:27.16 | FISKER_Q | ¤!&!¤&( |
| 10:27.18 | yacoob | Greywind, if he is, then he shouldn't be posting on the forum, I thought they have *separate* CMs for that... |
| 10:27.32 | MoonWolf | Slouken is the exception. |
| 10:27.34 | FtH|eagle | when I read that post from slouken & Tyren, auto-buffing mods like my xrs will break too, right? |
| 10:27.35 | yacoob | well, it's not my company. I don't even have their shares :D |
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| 10:27.57 | Greywind | FISKER_Q: err lol |
| 10:28.24 | Greywind | yes all auto buffing mods will cease to exist i think |
| 10:28.39 | FtH|eagle | argh, that really sucks |
| 10:28.50 | Greywind | especially for pallys |
| 10:28.56 | Greywind | i feel sorry for them |
| 10:28.59 | FtH|eagle | too many good addons will break just to stop detox/decursive |
| 10:29.10 | Greywind | yeah |
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| 10:29.36 | yacoob | how about we shoot authors of those two, and make others promise not to write such things ever again? :) |
| 10:29.39 | yacoob | *g,d&r* |
| 10:30.02 | Greywind | i see a lot of players leaving or stop playing healers....good news for my druid I'll be very popular :P |
| 10:30.28 | FtH|eagle | Why can't they set their blocker only for those 'bad' spells |
| 10:31.38 | yacoob | Kaelten, ping :> |
| 10:31.43 | Greywind | because if you somehow blocked those spells, custom action bars wouldnt work |
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| 10:31.55 | yacoob | Kaelten, any chances of having KC_ET ace2d? |
| 10:32.13 | Greywind | yacoob: yes it is in the works |
| 10:32.24 | yacoob | *bounces* what's the ETA? :D |
| 10:32.33 | Greywind | when its done |
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| 10:32.48 | MoonWolf | it will be done when it is done! |
| 10:32.59 | packetlss | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32184244&postId=320815451&sid=1#0 <- unless you haven't seen it |
| 10:33.01 | yacoob | that's soon! I'd better go and get my debian dvds! :D |
| 10:33.19 | yacoob | And Duke Nukem Forever, too! |
| 10:35.47 | Jens | packetlss: So that means no more Decursive/Detox type mods, as I see it :/ |
| 10:35.51 | Neebler | rophyyyy! <3 SCL |
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| 10:37.17 | yacoob | Greywind, but seriously, how far into completion it is? Was it just started to being rewritten, or it's in beta or alpha? |
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| 10:38.06 | Greywind | *sigh* im gonna have to do a lot of practicing to not waste mana now, I will admit to being lazy and using heal deranking to make my job easier, but i did it on my priest before i found out about castparty or decursive and was quite good so ill either adjust or quit. no use whining |
| 10:38.15 | packetlss | Jens: seems like it |
| 10:38.16 | Greywind | yacoob: i dont know |
| 10:38.48 | mjc | [ammo]: rockin the BW today ;) |
| 10:39.05 | Jens | I see... well I'll stop playing my priest in BC then :/ |
| 10:40.20 | Greywind | what a lot of people dont realize is just how many healers do use healing addons |
| 10:40.25 | Sole | what is usage referring to in AceConsole, when the type is text |
| 10:40.37 | mjc | Greywind: nearly everyone |
| 10:40.38 | Jens | I don't use healing addons. |
| 10:40.40 | yacoob | Greywind, they'll become painfuly aware of it, oh yes... :) |
| 10:40.46 | Greywind | hehe |
| 10:40.47 | mjc | Greywind: I only know of one healer in game that does not |
| 10:40.48 | CIA-17 | 03moonwolf * r13239 10Mendeleev/MendeleevCats.lua: |
| 10:40.48 | CIA-17 | Mendeleev: |
| 10:40.48 | CIA-17 | - Added UBRS |
| 10:40.55 | Gngsk | already tough to find a healer as it is, only gonna get worse in expansion |
| 10:41.10 | Greywind | mjc: yeah me too |
| 10:41.14 | [Ammo] | I hope they change retarded encounters like Noth |
| 10:41.28 | mjc | who the hell is noth :P |
| 10:41.33 | [Ammo] | Noth the plaguebringer |
| 10:41.38 | Greywind | if they change encounters to only debuff like maybe 10 chars or so it wont be that bad |
| 10:41.42 | [Ammo] | he decurses everyone in a 30 yard range with a debuff |
| 10:41.43 | Jens | Playing without Detox will be highly annoying. |
| 10:41.51 | [Ammo] | he curses I mean |
| 10:41.51 | Jens | Probably going to wipe on Lucifron :D |
| 10:41.57 | [Ammo] | and you have 7 seconds to decurse the whole raid |
| 10:42.00 | yacoob | [Ammo], great typo :DD |
| 10:42.06 | [Ammo] | otherwise the raid goes BOOM |
| 10:42.18 | yacoob | no, you have 7 seconds to CURSE the whole raid, as boss decursed them just now :D |
| 10:42.24 | [Ammo] | blargh |
| 10:42.44 | yacoob | curse typos! |
| 10:43.06 | Neebler | All this talk about decruse/detox and not being able to play without it, makes me chuckle. To think about how lucifron and how he was the first real boss in WoW is hilarious |
| 10:43.22 | Neebler | before decursive existed. and before raid healing addons |
| 10:43.36 | Neebler | what a shitty boss to be the first experience in WoW boss' if you think about it |
| 10:43.39 | Jens | I don't even know wth healing addons is :/ |
| 10:43.50 | axxo | wasn't onyxia first? |
| 10:44.01 | mjc | Neebler: I'd wtf die on luci without decursive |
| 10:44.04 | Neebler | well yea. onyxia and lucifron |
| 10:44.05 | mjc | or detox ;P |
| 10:44.09 | JJacobsson | haum, I found some slighly wierd dependencies... FuBar_GuildFu is optionaly dependent on "DrewdropLib", shouldent that be "DewdropLib" ? |
| 10:44.17 | mjc | Istopped playing my mage before detox existed |
| 10:44.34 | [Ammo] | things like squishy will have to register all unitframes beforehand |
| 10:44.43 | [Ammo] | and the clickcasting will have to be registered too |
| 10:44.49 | [Ammo] | to work |
| 10:44.51 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 10:44.59 | [Ammo] | gg blizzard for memory increase |
| 10:45.04 | Greywind | i know |
| 10:45.10 | Greywind | thats what i was thinking too |
| 10:45.15 | Greywind | *sigh* |
| 10:45.39 | [Ammo] | but apparantly you can't move frames either in combat |
| 10:45.39 | Greywind | i mean what was the point in them adding frame creation? |
| 10:46.00 | [Ammo] | not sure about that one though |
| 10:46.34 | Greywind | unless we can create the frames where we want them and then they cant be moved |
| 10:46.43 | Greywind | which would be ok with me |
| 10:46.53 | nevcairiel | you can do anything you want before combat |
| 10:47.02 | nevcairiel | the protected frames get protected when in combat |
| 10:47.02 | Greywind | well i know that |
| 10:47.13 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: the problem is for stuff like squishy you need to move frames etc |
| 10:47.21 | [Ammo] | and register the clickcasting beforehand |
| 10:47.28 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 10:47.46 | nevcairiel | some addons will need a new approach, thats for sure |
| 10:48.11 | vhaarr | math.random(0, 17) will give me a number from 1-17, right? |
| 10:48.14 | Greywind | i don't know, im not going to judge anything, I see where they are coming from but it still makes me a bit sad |
| 10:48.20 | vhaarr | or 1-16, or 0-17 or what? |
| 10:48.31 | nevcairiel | but until we see the full implementation of those secure buttons we cannot say for sure |
| 10:48.37 | vhaarr | hrm, 0-X |
| 10:49.17 | nevcairiel | math.random(16) would create 1-16 |
| 10:49.26 | vhaarr | okay |
| 10:50.07 | FISKER_Q | 1+1 = 2 |
| 10:50.08 | FISKER_Q | omg |
| 10:50.13 | nevcairiel | oh noes |
| 10:50.24 | nevcairiel | isnt 1+1 = 11 ? :o |
| 10:50.58 | yacoob | 10, actually :P |
| 10:51.22 | vhaarr | 1 + 1 = 1 |
| 10:51.47 | nevcairiel | now its getting confusing |
| 10:51.48 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 10:52.05 | yacoob | nah, 1+1=10 in binary |
| 10:52.13 | yacoob | 1+1=2 in decimal |
| 10:52.16 | yacoob | all the others... well :) |
| 10:52.29 | nevcairiel | i figured that, i dont get vhaarrs :) |
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| 10:52.37 | vhaarr | nubs |
| 10:52.40 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 10:52.44 | yacoob | vhaarr, it isn't even modulo :P |
| 10:53.07 | yacoob | 2+2=1 in mod 3 :P |
| 10:56.14 | BoltR | Hmm |
| 10:56.28 | BoltR | Yeah [Ammo], Noth will be really really lame come expansion time ;p |
| 10:56.53 | nevcairiel | you will be 70, so whatever |
| 10:57.05 | Gngsk | being 70 won't make you be able to decurse faster |
| 10:57.16 | nevcairiel | but it will make you stay away from naxx |
| 10:57.25 | Gngsk | so? |
| 10:57.58 | nevcairiel | if you dont go there, you wont have to decurse it, altho blizzard designs all their encounters without any addon |
| 10:58.06 | nevcairiel | so its perfectly doable |
| 10:58.20 | Gngsk | sure, with 5 mages and 5 druids |
| 10:58.40 | BoltR | nevcairiel, Loatheb is apparently doable without any consumables too |
| 10:58.44 | BoltR | I wouldn't want to do that though |
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| 11:00.24 | nevcairiel | there are things that make some bosses easier, but i think once we adapted, and learned howto dispel a whole raid fast enough, its the same difficulty |
| 11:00.29 | BoltR | Though I can see them wanting to get rid of mods where all you need to do to heal is hit one button over and over |
| 11:01.03 | BoltR | And nevcairiel i'm nearly positive Blizzard has said they develop bosses with available mods in mind |
| 11:01.29 | mjc | I think they just want us all to wipe on luci permanently |
| 11:01.42 | BoltR | Not to be based around the mod, but assuming alot of people will use it |
| 11:02.02 | yacoob | nevcairiel, "how to dispel a whole raid fast enough" - modification of fingers from Ghost In The Shell comes to mind :D |
| 11:02.04 | nevcairiel | we had that discussion yesterday, and the outcome was that all encounters are designed to be beatable without any addon |
| 11:02.32 | mjc | yacoob: anime noob :P |
| 11:02.43 | yacoob | mjc, how dare you call me a noob! |
| 11:02.45 | nevcairiel | mjc: when we first went into MC 1 1/2 year back, no one had decursive, and we survived |
| 11:02.47 | yacoob | *hrmph* |
| 11:02.52 | yacoob | mjc, :D |
| 11:03.10 | mjc | nevcairiel: I was making a joke :) |
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| 11:03.46 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: thats a statement that blizz has made at some point I think, that they don't design encounters to take addons ot beat |
| 11:04.01 | BoltR | Yes, but back in MC 1 1/2 years ago if you were decusrive it was all you were doing on that boss :/ |
| 11:04.20 | mjc | BoltR: wrong |
| 11:04.28 | mjc | BoltR: if you could decurse, you were |
| 11:04.35 | mjc | but not using an addon ;) |
| 11:04.48 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13241 10Antagonist/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:04.48 | CIA-17 | Antagonist |
| 11:04.48 | CIA-17 | - Added all chat commands |
| 11:04.48 | CIA-17 | - Made titles click through |
| 11:04.48 | CIA-17 | - Removed backup data files |
| 11:04.49 | CIA-17 | - Added Power Word: Shield cooldown (15 sec, emulates Weaked Soul) |
| 11:04.51 | CIA-17 | - Anchors are now positioned in the center of the anchors instead of above them |
| 11:04.56 | BoltR | I wrote decursive when I ment to write decursing |
| 11:05.02 | mjc | ah |
| 11:05.19 | BoltR | I've been up to close to 24 hours now, I should probably goto sleep |
| 11:05.24 | mjc | Sole: cool, I'll have to try that |
| 11:05.32 | Kaelten | I'm excited about the changes though. |
| 11:05.33 | Sole | :) |
| 11:05.38 | Kaelten | its going to be neat :) |
| 11:06.05 | mjc | Kaelten: I, like most of the rest of the not-broke ace community, am excited about an ace2 KCI :P |
| 11:06.06 | nevcairiel | most of it sounds great already |
| 11:06.10 | Sole | imo expansion is headed in the right direction |
| 11:06.34 | BoltR | What I ment with the 'blizzard keeps available mods in mind' was I beleive I remember reading a post where they said they look at what is available and make sure a fight isn't designed to be made easy by a mod that is available |
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| 11:06.40 | BoltR | If what I just wrote there makes any sense |
| 11:08.30 | Mikma | Sole: hostelbar = antagonist? |
| 11:08.43 | mjc | BoltR + english = lose |
| 11:08.44 | nevcairiel | BoltR: it does |
| 11:08.48 | nevcairiel | somewhat |
| 11:08.48 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:08.52 | Kaelten | mjc: hehe, well I'm slowly working on it |
| 11:09.09 | Kaelten | Uptime3 days 11 hours 38 min 28 s |
| 11:09.09 | Kaelten | Started at2006-10-03 23:39:04 |
| 11:09.09 | Kaelten | absolute (since start) |
| 11:09.09 | Kaelten | Requests3 Mreq |
| 11:09.11 | Kaelten | Traffic31.64 Gbyte |
| 11:09.18 | mjc | Kaelten: I'd be happy to offer any kind of help |
| 11:09.25 | Greywind | all i know is that I'm not giving up on my druid, hell ill probably be very popular once the expansion comes out |
| 11:09.28 | mjc | Kaelten: mirror? |
| 11:09.37 | Kaelten | thats on our main site |
| 11:09.39 | mjc | ah |
| 11:09.42 | mjc | nice |
| 11:09.44 | Kaelten | I don't think it includes mirror traffic |
| 11:09.52 | mjc | it does |
| 11:10.03 | mjc | the mirrors have squid as a frontend |
| 11:10.04 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 11:10.08 | Kaelten | ah |
| 11:10.13 | Kaelten | so ya then I guess it does |
| 11:10.14 | mjc | I helped set it up :) |
| 11:10.22 | Kaelten | lol |
| 11:10.26 | BoltR | Hmm, am I the only one that is bothered by the fact that in the expansion they have all the extra AQ40 supplies we farmed just sitting around? |
| 11:10.39 | BoltR | Thank you for reminding us what you put us through Blizzard? |
| 11:10.47 | BoltR | And it turns out the army didn't even use all of it? |
| 11:10.52 | mjc | BoltR: 'just sitting around' ? |
| 11:10.53 | Greywind | I'm actually looking forward to the expansion since im a resto druid. im liking the look of my tree hehe |
| 11:11.02 | BoltR | mjc, there are boxes of supplies |
| 11:11.16 | BoltR | Sitting around near the encampment near the Dark Portal |
| 11:11.22 | Greywind | well anyway i guess i should try this thing called sleep |
| 11:11.30 | Greywind | i hear its good for you |
| 11:11.33 | Greywind | :P |
| 11:11.34 | Sole | Mikma: yes |
| 11:11.36 | yacoob | Greywind, much overrated :) |
| 11:11.41 | Greywind | lol |
| 11:11.42 | mjc | sleep is for losers |
| 11:11.45 | Sole | Mikma: sorry was afk |
| 11:11.51 | Sole | psh |
| 11:12.03 | BoltR | mjc, similar to how they were just sitting around in IF/Og before the war started |
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| 11:12.05 | Sole | Ive slept for about 8 hours in the last 2 days |
| 11:12.07 | BoltR | In giant stacks |
| 11:12.12 | Sole | my sleeping pattern is all fucked up now |
| 11:12.21 | mjc | mine too |
| 11:12.23 | Greywind | mine always is |
| 11:12.53 | Sole | woke up thurs morning -> fell asleep for 50 minutes at 6am on fri morning...went to sleep at 5am saturday morning |
| 11:12.55 | Greywind | i have a sort of wierd family, i have had a funky sleep pattern since i was a kid |
| 11:12.57 | yacoob | BoltR, wait... the resource gathering was for war with bugs. And you say they moved all that stuff to outland? |
| 11:13.02 | yacoob | Never trust a politician, I say. |
| 11:13.15 | BoltR | Apparently |
| 11:13.32 | BoltR | They sure look suspiciously like the supplies for the bug war |
| 11:13.39 | Sole | I dont need much sleep actually but my family always insists on going to sleep =\ I barely feel tired after 24 hrs |
| 11:13.42 | yacoob | "Aha! Same textures!" |
| 11:14.30 | Cartas | lol |
| 11:14.30 | BoltR | They probably didn't use up the 80million linen bandages that they had because no one wanted them, so they sent them to the Outlands so they wouldn't need to see them again |
| 11:14.47 | yacoob | "It's a trap I say. What if we're not free, but instead of being of flesh and bone, we're but a digital constructs, cast into digital world, and other beings of great power play with us as they see fit?!?" |
| 11:15.07 | Kaelten | mjc: I might take you up on some of your offers to help, I havn't been having enough time to get everything done lately |
| 11:15.28 | Kaelten | one addon that I'm thinking of just making an open community project is KC_EnhancedTrades |
| 11:16.00 | Sole | sorry Kaelten, Im a virgin to all KC addons, what does KC_ET do? |
| 11:16.11 | Cartas | KC addons are the best, for shame, Sole! |
| 11:16.19 | yacoob | shows how many stuff you can craft with your inventory, i+bank, i+b+v, and so on |
| 11:16.31 | Sole | ive never looked at em coz Im happy with my interface |
| 11:16.41 | Sole | ooooh thats nifty |
| 11:16.49 | Sole | is there a raw mats window? |
| 11:17.02 | yacoob | rawr, mats... |
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| 11:17.16 | Sole | Im an engineer and I have to go through a maze before I figure out wtf I actually need to craft something |
| 11:17.53 | yacoob | reverseengineering? :) |
| 11:18.17 | Sole | =] |
| 11:18.17 | Kaelten | well I'm tired of fighting with it and trying to make it faster |
| 11:18.17 | Kaelten | to be honest |
| 11:18.35 | Sole | hokay |
| 11:18.40 | Sole | time to write up documentation for antagonist |
| 11:18.52 | Sole | cant use HostelBar documentation because thats old :( |
| 11:19.03 | yacoob | "Documentation: use the Source" |
| 11:19.21 | BoltR | I'm an engineer, but I don't ever use it much anymore. Transporter: Gadgetzan makes having it all worth while. I guess I also use the odd repair bot too. |
| 11:19.37 | vhaarr | Any good testers with lots of items in their bank/backpack around? |
| 11:20.13 | nevcairiel | i have a full bank and full bags. |
| 11:20.19 | vhaarr | Got time? |
| 11:20.24 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 11:20.25 | yacoob | Got wood? |
| 11:21.02 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: pm |
| 11:21.11 | Sole | lawl I love that name |
| 11:21.37 | Sole | BoltR: I use bombs in pvp |
| 11:21.41 | Sole | I <3 my bombs |
| 11:21.44 | BoltR | I don't pvp anymore :( |
| 11:21.52 | BoltR | Cross server battlegrounds totally ruined that |
| 11:21.54 | Sole | and goblin sapper charges...although they are expensive so I try to conserve them for special moments |
| 11:21.55 | BoltR | And now I specced prot |
| 11:22.00 | Sole | :( |
| 11:22.05 | Sole | I like cross server bgs |
| 11:22.06 | Sole | kinda |
| 11:22.14 | deci | http://www.whataboutpp.com/upload/theswordof1000truths.jpg |
| 11:22.14 | Gngsk | sapper charges are expensive? |
| 11:22.17 | Sole | AV became crap but the rest became interesting |
| 11:22.35 | Sole | LOL |
| 11:22.37 | Sole | thats my server |
| 11:22.41 | deci | mine also |
| 11:22.43 | Sole | I know that guy...panda |
| 11:22.45 | Sole | nowai |
| 11:22.50 | BoltR | Eh, I went from instant queues to like 15 minutes, and the general compition level went way down |
| 11:22.52 | Sole | you in nurfed? |
| 11:22.56 | deci | nah |
| 11:23.03 | deci | been on blackrock since retail |
| 11:23.13 | Sole | me too |
| 11:23.14 | Sole | since day 1 |
| 11:23.21 | Sole | your name is familiar actually |
| 11:23.26 | Sole | you in vF or something? |
| 11:23.27 | BoltR | Blackrock |
| 11:23.35 | FISKER_Q | i thought we were still retail |
| 11:23.36 | BoltR | My server got your servers trash :( |
| 11:24.23 | Neebler | boltR: thank goodness they're introducing these pvp "tournaments" in the expansion to bring the "your own realm" competiton aspect back into PVP |
| 11:24.34 | BoltR | Yeah Neebler |
| 11:24.51 | Neebler | 2v2 through 5v5. I hope they have awards of some sorts for them |
| 11:24.56 | BoltR | They do |
| 11:25.02 | BoltR | That gladiator gear/weapons |
| 11:25.06 | deci | nah not in vf, my old guild moved to daggerspine, but ive still got a shaman on br |
| 11:25.08 | BoltR | I think they are like 95dps? |
| 11:25.11 | Neebler | not the normal pvp stuff |
| 11:25.19 | BoltR | I know |
| 11:25.21 | Neebler | but like a one of a kind thing? cool |
| 11:25.50 | Neebler | so then if you lose the so called "title/crown" will you lose the weapon? |
| 11:25.56 | BoltR | There is still the grand martial claymore which you buy with honor points (or whatever they are called) |
| 11:26.13 | BoltR | And then there is Gladiator gear (Atleast that is what hte warrior stuff is called) |
| 11:26.18 | BoltR | I'm not 100% sure |
| 11:26.29 | BoltR | As I don't know anyone who actually has the gear ;) |
| 11:26.53 | BoltR | They spend more time exploring than pvping |
| 11:27.26 | Neebler | that's what I'll be doing first week of expansion |
| 11:27.39 | BoltR | That's probably the way to go |
| 11:27.42 | Neebler | but pvping if it comes to me, ofcource |
| 11:28.01 | Neebler | which is inevitable being on a PVP server |
| 11:28.08 | BoltR | If you can gain that gear on a server basis than it's probably best to rush for the highest rank (or whatever) and get that gear |
| 11:28.23 | BoltR | As it's going to probably be the best until you get until the harder level 70 instances |
| 11:29.24 | mjc | KaeltenAway: let me know if you decide what you want :) |
| 11:29.29 | BoltR | Though I suppose that would end up backfiring, when you are level 60 and you ahve to fight against level 65s :) |
| 11:29.36 | Neebler | Being a person who first rolled on a PVE realm because of his old EQ guild, and the stigmas associated behind a PVP server before knowing about them... and then ultimatly rerolling on a PVP server and never looking back |
| 11:30.01 | Neebler | I must say, I cant STAND playing on a PVE server when being out and about |
| 11:30.16 | mjc | no way that's a real SS :P |
| 11:30.33 | mjc | cute tho |
| 11:30.34 | BoltR | I don't think I could stand it |
| 11:32.07 | Neebler | I wish Blizzard would release just 1 Free-for-all PVP server. like EQ1 had |
| 11:32.10 | Neebler | with Rallos Zek |
| 11:32.21 | Neebler | err wait that was the name of the server. I cant remember |
| 11:32.46 | Neebler | the server was named after the god of war. something Ro I think |
| 11:33.18 | BoltR | The ability to slaughter your enemies towns is what makes it fun |
| 11:33.44 | BoltR | Hmm, tommorow I need to ask about the whole DK thing in the expansion |
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| 11:34.06 | BoltR | I'm nearly positive they are gone, but I don't see blizzard just allowing you to kill civilians ;p |
| 11:34.15 | BoltR | And they said they didn't want to make them non-targetable |
| 11:34.16 | Sole | deci: yes Im a rogue |
| 11:34.25 | Sole | deci: sorry havent registered with this server yet so cant pm |
| 11:34.49 | Neebler | speaking of dishonorable kills. I had 69 and accidently got 70 :( |
| 11:34.54 | BoltR | :( |
| 11:34.55 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:35.00 | BoltR | I had 0 for the longest time |
| 11:35.05 | Neebler | so my new goal is 1337. I need to find a civilian that instantly respawns |
| 11:35.08 | Neebler | so I can chain kill them |
| 11:35.13 | Neebler | I'm alliance |
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| 11:35.16 | Sole | I had a guildy who has 1337 DK |
| 11:35.17 | Neebler | anyone know of one? |
| 11:35.24 | Sole | he just farmed the redridge town |
| 11:35.51 | Worf | hmm... Blizz did something evil to the TargetLastTarget() function... |
| 11:35.58 | BoltR | Then I was in duratar, and I got too close to a civilian, it spawned a ton of guards. I then ran around with the guards on me, and later whirlwinded and accidently killed another civilian in one hit |
| 11:36.13 | Neebler | I know of an alliance civilian npc that instantly respawns, so you can farm him over and over for DK's |
| 11:36.22 | Neebler | monty the gnome in the deeprun tram |
| 11:36.58 | BoltR | Neebler, the best place is probably outside the instance in Orgrimmar |
| 11:37.00 | BoltR | Whatever it's called |
| 11:37.18 | Neebler | I'd knock him over dead again and again on my priest, forming creative shapes with his dead trail of corpses |
| 11:37.41 | Neebler | durotar |
| 11:37.46 | BoltR | I dont' know if there is a NPC that is as killable as Monty ;p |
| 11:38.26 | Worf | woot... TargetLastTarget() is broken, but the old bug with "playertarget" does still work... i'm imba |
| 11:38.30 | Neebler | hearing gnomes die is always amusing |
| 11:38.44 | BoltR | Watching them die is too |
| 11:38.47 | BoltR | The gnome hop |
| 11:39.23 | Neebler | yea I hope they get creative with death animations in the expansion |
| 11:39.35 | Neebler | I love the ones in gnomeregan |
| 11:40.18 | Sole | hmm |
| 11:40.24 | Neebler | Because what will you be doing alot of? vanquishing npc's over and over and over, so it's nice ot see something creative |
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| 11:45.42 | mjc | http://www.nerfbat.com/ |
| 11:46.41 | Sole | deci: I remember you :) in <Nowhere To Run> , correcT? |
| 11:47.13 | Sole | I take it the forum formatting buttons are all turned off for a good reason? :( |
| 11:47.32 | Sole | all lead to javascript:void(0); |
| 11:47.43 | deci | yea |
| 11:48.21 | deci | so with 95% of every caster crying about the nerf to decursive maybe this game will get smaller in tbc! |
| 11:48.29 | Sole | lol |
| 11:48.30 | deci | or people will l2p |
| 11:48.37 | Sole | hopefully l2p |
| 11:50.07 | BoltR | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.22 | deci | the only fights decursive/detox made boring/easy were fights like chromag anyways |
| 11:50.38 | BoltR | Warriors have been complaining for a long while about things |
| 11:50.39 | deci | not many "HI IM AN ANGRY MOB WHO CASTS EVERY TYPE OF DEBUFF EVERY 10 SECONDS" type of bosses |
| 11:51.00 | BoltR | and it hasn't changed |
| 11:51.31 | BoltR | deci, it's probably more about mods like Squishy |
| 11:51.46 | BoltR | Where you can just hit one button and heal the whole raid ;p |
| 11:52.09 | deci | lol just show all the raid frames |
| 11:52.12 | deci | or |
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| 11:52.20 | deci | assign healers to specific classes!? |
| 11:52.33 | deci | instead of just "heal till youre oom so we win" |
| 11:53.05 | BoltR | I'm just saying, that is more likely why they are doing it instead of decusrive type mods |
| 11:53.10 | deci | ive never been a fan of Guild_01 requiring you to use ___________ and _________ addons to even be thought of for recruitment |
| 11:53.16 | deci | yea |
| 11:53.31 | Sole | the only reasonable requirement is Vent |
| 11:53.36 | BoltR | Yeah |
| 11:53.46 | deci | yea vent and ts arent problems |
| 11:54.02 | BoltR | Something like oRA is nice too |
| 11:54.05 | Sole | some people complain about being required to have Vent...but without vent a raid is just a whole lot of chat messages |
| 11:54.05 | deci | its the guilds that are "USE CT_RAID OR DIE SO WE CAN CHECK HOW MANY REAGENTS YOU BRING" |
| 11:54.13 | BoltR | Being able to see raid durability is nice |
| 11:54.18 | deci | yea |
| 11:54.21 | BoltR | Though not the end of hte world if you don't have it |
| 11:54.28 | deci | theres always someoone who doesnt use the bot |
| 11:54.33 | deci | then asks for it 10 mins later |
| 11:54.33 | BoltR | Yep |
| 11:54.35 | Sole | yea having the MT type "cut back on the dps, Im lagging" will be good for the raid than him saying that in a second |
| 11:54.35 | deci | haha |
| 11:54.40 | BoltR | ALWAYS lol |
| 11:54.52 | deci | /ra need bot guys, all my shits broken |
| 11:55.08 | deci | "we just dropped one..." |
| 11:55.15 | deci | /ra oh i was afk getting a drink |
| 11:55.17 | BoltR | Yep |
| 11:56.03 | BoltR | I don't see it effecting my guild very much |
| 11:56.21 | BoltR | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.25 | deci | http://www.imagesocket.com/view/Uinewest_bdb.jpg |
| 11:56.31 | deci | thats my ui and thats how i heal |
| 11:56.34 | deci | ill be fine also |
| 11:56.44 | BoltR | Although, our mages are pretty lazy about decursing now WITH decursive ;p |
| 11:56.46 | Neebler | do a ready check before dropping a bot :p |
| 11:56.49 | sbu | hmm - we still dont have nice ora2 mtframes i guess? *ducks* :p |
| 11:56.59 | Sole | !toc Antagonist |
| 11:57.03 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Antagonist |
| 11:57.10 | deci | BoltR: yea haha, must get high on damage meters! |
| 11:57.18 | yacoob | Hm. |
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| 11:57.28 | BoltR | Neebler, it never helps! |
| 11:57.30 | yacoob | Is there a way to position oCB without casting spell? |
| 11:57.30 | BoltR | There is always one! |
| 11:57.37 | yacoob | something like 'show outline' in eCB :) |
| 11:57.44 | Sole | bah |
| 11:57.48 | deci | just cast your hearth! |
| 11:58.00 | deci | thats what i did :P |
| 11:58.15 | nevcairiel | yea :) |
| 11:58.24 | deci | will XRaidStatus break? |
| 11:58.29 | deci | ill miss that only |
| 11:58.32 | Gngsk | yep |
| 11:58.33 | deci | since i get to yell at healers |
| 11:58.35 | Gngsk | same with corkfu |
| 11:58.42 | Sole | lol the SVN bot set the version on the wiki to Version: $Rev: 13221 $ damn thing didnt take out the $Rev |
| 11:58.42 | BoltR | Why woudl XRaidStatus break? |
| 11:58.45 | nevcairiel | the status part wouldnt break |
| 11:58.46 | deci | ah suppose i can just show mana with ag_uf |
| 11:58.48 | BoltR | Or did it change since I used it last |
| 11:58.49 | nevcairiel | only the one-button-buff-part |
| 11:58.57 | deci | oh |
| 11:58.57 | yacoob | now to only solve out why does it turn green when I press escape... :) |
| 11:58.58 | BoltR | I don't see how it would break |
| 11:58.59 | deci | ok |
| 11:59.01 | Gngsk | the autobuffing part would, that's what I meant |
| 11:59.02 | BoltR | It just shows bars :/ |
| 11:59.04 | sbu | *sigh* are there any tweaked nvidia drivers? |
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| 11:59.25 | deci | i use it to tell at lazy healers |
| 11:59.41 | Worf | i tried to understand the planned changes yesterday, and i didn't understand them |
| 11:59.46 | deci | we have a few priests who spam flash heal and ask for innervate not even a minute into fights sometimes |
| 11:59.53 | deci | which is somewhat mind boggling |
| 11:59.54 | Sole | Worf: Im with you |
| 12:00.03 | nevcairiel | some priests need to l2conservemana |
| 12:00.07 | nevcairiel | we have some of those as well |
| 12:00.09 | deci | yes lol |
| 12:00.12 | Sole | UnitFocus --- wtf is this all about I didnt even try to wrap my head around it |
| 12:00.19 | BoltR | All my priests use lower greater heals |
| 12:00.20 | deci | /ra NEED Innervate and/or Tide |
| 12:00.23 | nevcairiel | its not like other priests dont heal, they simply cannot heal efficently |
| 12:00.23 | Worf | so how do they want to stop things like squishy from working? the only way would be to hide the raid health info from you |
| 12:00.24 | BoltR | One uses Heal :/ |
| 12:00.26 | deci | /ra dude,... we just started wtf |
| 12:00.36 | BoltR | On trash anyways |
| 12:00.56 | nevcairiel | Worf: squishy would still be able to display the stuff, but you wont be able to click-heal in the squishy windows |
| 12:01.03 | deci | no more deranking in expac though |
| 12:01.03 | BoltR | Worf, doesn't Squishy have a "Hit button to heal person with the lowest health" button? |
| 12:01.23 | deci | well, i suppose we can derank |
| 12:01.25 | deci | just not as low |
| 12:01.25 | BoltR | deci, you buy stuff with honor points |
| 12:01.35 | deci | i meant deranking heals |
| 12:01.36 | deci | :P |
| 12:01.39 | BoltR | Oh lol |
| 12:01.49 | nevcairiel | we druids on last patchwerk thought about innervating our selfes, since we had the theory priests use innervate only to save pots |
| 12:01.58 | Worf | so they remove the SpellTargetUnit(unit) function? |
| 12:02.12 | deci | BoltR: squishy doesnt heal iirc, just /targets the person you click |
| 12:02.30 | Worf | i use squishy all the time, but i never do target the person i heal |
| 12:02.35 | BoltR | deci, I get the feeling that healers are going to have mana/5 coming out of their ass in the expansion :/ |
| 12:02.41 | Worf | so i don't understand |
| 12:02.52 | deci | yea im a shaman, its already coming out my arse lol |
| 12:02.57 | deci | im ahead of the game! |
| 12:03.07 | BoltR | Yeah |
| 12:03.12 | Gngsk | too bad shimmering geta gets sharded everytime... |
| 12:03.13 | BoltR | Shaman can just heal indefinately lol |
| 12:03.34 | Neebler | not! |
| 12:03.39 | deci | i go oom on huhuran though |
| 12:03.43 | deci | since i spam chain heal |
| 12:03.46 | deci | at 30% |
| 12:03.50 | Mery | Worf: Yeah I think SpellTargetUnit will be protected |
| 12:03.58 | Mery | (or removed) |
| 12:03.59 | nevcairiel | everybody goes oom on huhuran, and if they dont, yell at them, very loudly :p |
| 12:04.02 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13246 10Antagonist/Antagonist.toc: Antagonist - added X-AceForum entry to the toc |
| 12:04.11 | BoltR | Yeah |
| 12:04.19 | deci | yea nevcairiel :P |
| 12:04.20 | BoltR | Most priests can't PoH THAT long ;p |
| 12:04.45 | Worf | ok.... if that is the case then i'll suspend my account until they reenable it. or don't play a class that can cast. |
| 12:04.48 | deci | priests shouldnt really need to PoH if theres enough shaman, new chain heal is sooooo good |
| 12:04.58 | nevcairiel | Worf: have fun in reallife :) |
| 12:04.59 | deci | but thats assuming youre horde :P |
| 12:05.08 | BoltR | I'm totally not horde :( |
| 12:05.12 | Mery | well you get a whole lot of new functions |
| 12:05.45 | nevcairiel | PoH on the 4 groups who get the nature dmg and all other healers on MT works fine tho |
| 12:05.56 | BoltR | That is what we do |
| 12:06.01 | deci | IMO, people that stick out this "nerf", the people so reliant on the addons getting broken, will probably become better healers after the expansion |
| 12:06.05 | Mery | so you can set it to cast a spell if you click on a raid frame, cast another spell if you alt-click ctrl click shitf click the same frame |
| 12:06.15 | BoltR | I haven't done that fight in a while, but the last few fights it angered me |
| 12:06.20 | Mery | but those frames cannot be moved around during combat |
| 12:06.35 | BoltR | I used to have like 305 NR and NEVER die; the last few times i've had like 330 or something |
| 12:06.48 | BoltR | And I die, but other people in my group with 250 don't |
| 12:06.51 | BoltR | How does that make sense? |
| 12:06.55 | deci | lol |
| 12:07.09 | deci | unlucky resist check! |
| 12:07.10 | nevcairiel | am i happy that i dont use click-casting, squishy, or anything like that now, and i consider myself a somewhat good healer |
| 12:07.48 | Worf | deci: well, but if you have a UI like me, with a ... "Dual Target" mode like i call it, that heavily relies on function to change target and to cast spells on a other unit but the target, then i have to throw away all i learned and created in the last 1.5 years. |
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| 12:08.11 | nevcairiel | that happens when you rely your skill on addons |
| 12:08.12 | Worf | and right now i'm not willing to do so |
| 12:08.22 | Mery | you can cast spells on other units than what you have targetted |
| 12:08.25 | BoltR | Last time I was in AQ40 it was just to do C'Thun; some other guild gave us their instance because they were too lazy to clear the trash to C'Thun |
| 12:08.38 | Sole | lol? |
| 12:08.42 | Mery | but it works differently and more restrictive |
| 12:08.46 | BoltR | I think it was two weeks after they killed the Emps |
| 12:08.59 | Worf | nevcairiel: nope. i disagree |
| 12:09.01 | BoltR | Sole, they wanted their elementium weapons |
| 12:09.09 | deci | i know where you're coming from Worf, there are just players like myself and nevcairiel who kept it as simple as possible, so we'll adjust the easiest, your adjust will be a hard one or wont happen at all :) |
| 12:09.25 | Sole | Ill adjust easy :) |
| 12:09.31 | Sole | rogues ftw, no need for flashy addons |
| 12:09.34 | deci | lol |
| 12:09.40 | Sole | most of my addons are just aesthetic |
| 12:10.04 | Worf | have a look at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CC_Target - have a look at the video. that is nothing "automated", this is just a modifyed UI with shortcuts and keybindings and stuff like that. |
| 12:10.34 | Worf | but things like that don't work if your remove all basic functions needed |
| 12:10.34 | nevcairiel | in my case it has a simple reason why i never had anything too fancy, most of the last year i had to play on my laptop, and it was already slow with a vanilla UI, so i only used what was really necessary. and that way i basicly learned to play without any addon at all |
| 12:11.08 | Sole | !toc Antagonist |
| 12:11.08 | Worf | i need to do new videos before the next patch breaks everything |
| 12:11.10 | BoltR | Oh god, I just noticed your UI has an error! End of the world! |
| 12:11.20 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Antagonist |
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| 12:14.42 | XLVII | oo |
| 12:15.10 | Elkano | my 'ead... it 'urts... I shouldn't try to understand the TBC UI changes atm... |
| 12:15.50 | Worf | something else: i can |
| 12:15.51 | Mery | well casting spells (pet attack in this case, if I see it correctly) by clicking on units in the world frame is not possible yet but slouken is looking into that |
| 12:16.15 | Worf | i can't connect to the new svn server... who can i ask for help? |
| 12:16.26 | Mery | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&pageNo=9&sid=1#172 |
| 12:16.32 | yacoob | damn |
| 12:16.43 | yacoob | bg minimap is soooo badly design :( |
| 12:17.33 | deci | isnt there an addon that mods it? |
| 12:17.41 | FISKER_Q | this is definately easier than being able to run the junk-email script in the inbox |
| 12:17.59 | FISKER_Q | manually looking through over 4000 emails and deleting what's spam |
| 12:18.28 | deci | yea yacoob: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3141-1-battlefield-commander.html |
| 12:18.32 | FISKER_Q | what the hell |
| 12:18.40 | FISKER_Q | I was in the company of heroes beta lol |
| 12:18.53 | deci | congrats! |
| 12:19.07 | BoltR | The whole being able to cast spells on someone by clicking their player |
| 12:19.11 | deci | pretty fun game if youre an rts fan |
| 12:19.19 | BoltR | Cool idea, horribly unuseful in a raid |
| 12:19.20 | FISKER_Q | never played it |
| 12:19.21 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 12:19.24 | BoltR | I guess raid sizes are smaller now |
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| 12:21.30 | FISKER_Q | aaah |
| 12:21.35 | FISKER_Q | 1500 down |
| 12:21.38 | FISKER_Q | 2500 to go |
| 12:21.45 | mjc | At present, WoW is one of the most played games in North America, and the most played American MMORPG, with a total of over 7 million customers worldwide. |
| 12:22.13 | evl_ | 7.5 million :) |
| 12:22.17 | evl_ | if you count the net cafes |
| 12:22.18 | evl_ | in asia |
| 12:22.26 | mjc | The current MMORPG market has World of Warcraft in a position similar to the position of Dungeons & Dragons in the tabletop RPG market, with both games' market share being greater than 50% of the overall market. |
| 12:23.22 | mjc | nuts |
| 12:23.51 | Mikma | so we can't use any scripts to target persons in expansion? |
| 12:24.10 | MoonWolf | not during combat anyway |
| 12:24.18 | Mikma | mm'kay |
| 12:24.31 | MoonWolf | and you will have to redo bartender |
| 12:24.39 | Mikma | hmmh? |
| 12:25.03 | MoonWolf | actionbuttons and all sorts of things are being changed. |
| 12:25.11 | Mikma | bah |
| 12:25.38 | BoltR | Didn't look like it was being changed that much |
| 12:25.43 | evl_ | Oh well |
| 12:25.47 | BoltR | They added a slash command to simplify things |
| 12:25.52 | evl_ | i think they feel the game has gotten too automated. |
| 12:26.17 | Mikma | well the slash for ab-change is nice |
| 12:26.39 | BoltR | So is the /equip change ;p |
| 12:26.39 | Worf | i feel that too, but only when i see some farmbot in felwood |
| 12:27.54 | FISKER_Q | who needs a spam filter when you got a couple of hours on your hands? |
| 12:29.51 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r13248 10BigWigs/ (12 files): BigWigs: missed a few files |
| 12:33.37 | Mikma | oooooooh nice. MSBT Suppression is nice |
| 12:33.45 | Mikma | i added 'Vampiric Embrace' :) |
| 12:34.15 | add\\Leialyn | why are there now 2 Tranq.lua files at BigWigs? ;> |
| 12:34.42 | add\\Leialyn | and all the other files as well @flyflame ^^ |
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| 12:35.27 | mjc | Worf: probably glider |
| 12:35.57 | evl_ | will be impossible to glide with the tbc system |
| 12:36.00 | evl_ | where you can't target shit |
| 12:36.05 | mjc | no |
| 12:36.16 | mjc | it tab targets atm |
| 12:36.21 | evl_ | aha |
| 12:37.05 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r13249 10BigWigs/ (12 files): BigWigs: got missed up the files |
| 12:37.06 | mjc | glider's completely a separate app |
| 12:37.19 | mjc | wtf @ flyfame |
| 12:37.23 | mjc | l2revert |
| 12:37.32 | mjc | *flyflame |
| 12:38.40 | evl_ | !trunk prate |
| 12:39.08 | mjc | !trunk prat |
| 12:39.09 | evl_ | !trunk Prat |
| 12:39.13 | evl_ | ;) |
| 12:39.15 | SVNBot | You can already find the latest revision of Prat at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/Prat/ |
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| 12:39.31 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
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| 12:39.43 | mjc | andreasg: cool |
| 12:40.03 | Mikma | andreasg: where's the aguf_portraits |
| 12:40.03 | mjc | andreasg: it'd like to have the dps/healer/tank subgroups have different sub-sort options |
| 12:40.04 | Mikma | ??? |
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| 12:40.55 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
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| 12:40.57 | XLVII | Most likely a stupid question, but as a Restoration Druid, which statistics should I be focusing on? |
| 12:41.11 | Sole | +Healing Im guessing :P |
| 12:41.12 | mjc | you mean item stats? |
| 12:41.16 | XLVII | Yes |
| 12:41.25 | XLVII | Like, Spirit, Intellect, etc. |
| 12:41.29 | deci | mana/5 IMO |
| 12:41.34 | XLVII | ok.. |
| 12:41.41 | andreasg | mjc: yes but I am very bad at coding stuff like that so I guess I would need help |
| 12:41.41 | XLVII | So spirit, mostly? |
| 12:41.53 | mjc | andreasg: ok sure |
| 12:42.05 | deci | int/spirit and stam never hurts |
| 12:42.20 | deci | also items that have mana/5 on them |
| 12:42.24 | gnorlish | what kind of gear do you have access to |
| 12:42.28 | Mikma | andreasg: GIEF US THE DROPSHADOW FIX! |
| 12:42.35 | deci | as those tend to be better than spirit to a certain threshold |
| 12:42.43 | andreasg | Mikma: it's there |
| 12:42.49 | Mikma | good |
| 12:43.00 | andreasg | I did it some commits ago? |
| 12:43.05 | andreasg | like 3-4 days |
| 12:43.24 | Mikma | i dunoo |
| 12:43.34 | Mikma | i have modded the .xml for some time :D |
| 12:43.40 | andreasg | so if you haven't updated since thne |
| 12:43.49 | maia | andreasg: seems as if there are many branches of agUF - will they be merged back to trunk, or are they crap? :) |
| 12:44.16 | maia | (havent checked them yet, but people are asking stuff like "which is the most recent, working branch of aguf) |
| 12:44.23 | andreasg | maia: seriously, I can't do all the work of looking through the branches and checking what they do, and create patches and then merge them if they're good |
| 12:44.26 | andreasg | so |
| 12:44.35 | andreasg | people that want stuff in need to create patches for me |
| 12:44.35 | maia | I see. |
| 12:44.44 | maia | I hope they know ;) |
| 12:44.58 | deci | kemayos branch has the portraits, thats all i know! |
| 12:44.59 | mjc | andreasg: svn diff |
| 12:45.00 | mjc | :D |
| 12:45.05 | andreasg | I've asked for patches numerous times in the threads and it says too in the wiki so |
| 12:45.32 | andreasg | anyway those branches got some catching up to do with the latest change I made |
| 12:45.47 | deci | why do people like portraits so much anyways? |
| 12:45.54 | andreasg | if you were to create a patch from one of those now it wouldn't apply clean to trunk |
| 12:45.55 | MoonWolf | no clue |
| 12:45.55 | maia | on the other hand I don't really care anymore anyway. Unless someone can convince me the BC UI change is not as bad as I think it is, I'll probably quit playing wow in the next few days. |
| 12:46.02 | MoonWolf | i have not seen a portrait in ages. |
| 12:46.06 | MoonWolf | let alone a 3d one. |
| 12:46.12 | andreasg | maia: what's the problem? |
| 12:46.35 | MoonWolf | they are breaking squishy |
| 12:46.42 | andreasg | how? |
| 12:46.47 | deci | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2520.0 |
| 12:46.53 | deci | only the buff part |
| 12:46.54 | MoonWolf | have you not heard ? |
| 12:47.06 | deci | the thread i linked should fill you in :) |
| 12:47.09 | andreasg | targetting functions? |
| 12:47.10 | maia | andreasg: problems are: 1024x768 screen NEEDS intelligent interfaces that dont clutter the screen with 40 full fleshed unit frames AND: as I dont use a mouse, I have no clue how I will be able to target 40 units via keybindings |
| 12:47.14 | yacoob | maia, don't make it a tragedy |
| 12:47.25 | andreasg | anyway |
| 12:47.30 | yacoob | maia, you got confirmed ONE thing, and we're yet unaware of full bunch of others |
| 12:47.31 | andreasg | does this mean that clique is broken? |
| 12:47.36 | maia | yacoob: how shall I target anyone outside my subgroup without a mouse? go tell me. |
| 12:47.51 | yacoob | maia, how shall I answer you, without seeing ready api? |
| 12:47.52 | maia | yacoob: what part was not confirmed? |
| 12:48.07 | yacoob | and I already proposed something, visit backlog |
| 12:48.20 | maia | I just joined the chat. |
| 12:48.24 | andreasg | does this mean that clique is broken? and what about action bar addons? can anyone tell me? |
| 12:48.27 | yacoob | maia, ok |
| 12:48.28 | maia | cant scroll back... |
| 12:48.43 | deci | andreasg: action bar addons will need minor tweaks |
| 12:48.52 | andreasg | like what |
| 12:49.02 | yacoob | maia, as you cannot act with the frames during combat (move, click-to-target and so on), one can do this: |
| 12:49.16 | yacoob | pregenerate 8x5 grid of 5x5 squares |
| 12:49.31 | maia | yeah, thought about that too. highlight ones that need something.... |
| 12:49.35 | yacoob | each square is one person, the colour of square means how badly hurt he/she is |
| 12:49.46 | maia | BUT: I still have a problem targetting them without mouse. |
| 12:49.53 | andreasg | but does that mean that click casting is dead? |
| 12:49.56 | yacoob | and you can use border or markings for debuffs |
| 12:50.02 | deci | yes andreasg |
| 12:50.06 | deci | you cannot /target |
| 12:50.07 | andreasg | so bye clique? |
| 12:50.11 | deci | yea |
| 12:50.11 | yacoob | andreasg, maia: from what I understood, not exactly |
| 12:50.17 | [Wobin] | er |
| 12:50.21 | [Wobin] | I think clique is not dead |
| 12:50.29 | edv | i need to move my castbar, any ace2 addons for that? |
| 12:50.30 | andreasg | yacoob: how not, if clique can't can't cast spells or target? |
| 12:50.32 | yacoob | you cannot assign stuff to frame while in combat |
| 12:50.40 | maia | Clique isnt dead. but any macro that will choose spells or ranks is dead |
| 12:50.40 | [Wobin] | you can't assign them in combat |
| 12:50.48 | [Wobin] | but out of combat you can |
| 12:50.49 | yacoob | and you can, if you have the frame BEFORE combat |
| 12:51.01 | yacoob | so, pregen the frames, assign clicks, there you go |
| 12:51.04 | andreasg | maia: but clique wouldn't be able to cast a heal when you clicked on a unit would it? |
| 12:51.07 | [Wobin] | anyway, there's no point in declaiming horrific dramaquits before the api is released |
| 12:51.17 | yacoob | or - someone? - am I wrong? |
| 12:51.31 | [Wobin] | yacoob: That's the point, we -don't- know |
| 12:51.40 | [Wobin] | at this point, we can't say for certain how anything will go |
| 12:51.50 | maia | yacoob: I'm about to write exactly that addon you described (its obvious this is the only way to save screen space, and I wrote down the basics of that addon yesterday night), but again, there's no way for me to target the units without mouse. |
| 12:51.53 | andreasg | I think you're wrong yacoob -- that page says that no addon can be used to cast spells. |
| 12:51.58 | FISKER_Q | ok |
| 12:52.00 | FISKER_Q | I lost my mind |
| 12:52.04 | [Wobin] | I'm sure slouken isn't dumb enough to blanket statement everything and say "Sorry, we're disabling this and offering no alternative" |
| 12:52.12 | yacoob | andreasg, not cast spells! target! |
| 12:52.17 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r13252 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (Heigan.lua Noth.lua): BigWigs: update Heigan, Noth zhCN locals |
| 12:52.18 | yacoob | maia, not exactly |
| 12:52.22 | [Wobin] | We just don't know what that alternative is yet |
| 12:52.24 | yacoob | maia, you can also pregen keybindings |
| 12:52.28 | andreasg | yacoob: but then clique IS dead no? |
| 12:52.33 | [Wobin] | and we may as well postpone all discussion until we know more |
| 12:52.52 | yacoob | andreasg, yes, clique as we know it won't function. And Wobin has 101% right about discussing stuff right now. |
| 12:52.58 | [Wobin] | PS, you don't have to buy BC. |
| 12:52.59 | maia | yacoob: well, I have no idea how to bind 40 raid units to unique keys, plus about 20 spells I frequently use, plus movement keys,... |
| 12:53.14 | yacoob | maia, I'm full of ideas, lucky you :P |
| 12:53.23 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r13253 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UtilityMethods.lua: |
| 12:53.23 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 12:53.24 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:53.24 | yacoob | [Wobin], changes will be there, no matter whether you buy BC or not |
| 12:53.25 | [Wobin] | If, at the time of release, the sky -does- fall in, then you, along with every other healer in the game can show your disgust by not buying it. |
| 12:53.34 | maia | thats more keys than my keyboard has. and memorizing something like "alt-ctrl-P" = "raid23" isnt great either. |
| 12:53.42 | yacoob | maia, how abot entering coords? |
| 12:53.45 | [Wobin] | yacoob: yes |
| 12:53.51 | krka | these changes will apply to standard wow too though |
| 12:54.05 | [Wobin] | But it'll prove to Blizzard their misconception if you don't buy the expansion |
| 12:54.05 | yacoob | bind your numpad, first x, then y, first keypress selects row (and highliths), second column |
| 12:54.15 | [Wobin] | But again. |
| 12:54.18 | yacoob | this way you need only three hops on the keyboard |
| 12:54.21 | [Wobin] | We don't know what changes will be made |
| 12:54.30 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r13254 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_WatchdogCore.lua: |
| 12:54.30 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 12:54.30 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.34 | [Wobin] | We only know one bit of what sure to be a large change |
| 12:54.36 | maia | yacoob: problem is, with low latency/fps each 'hop' needs half a second. so dispelling someone will take quite a time. |
| 12:54.37 | [Wobin] | and lots of hearsay |
| 12:54.39 | deci | but assumption makes for good conversation ! |
| 12:54.51 | krka | doesnt the system reqs include mouse btw_ >( |
| 12:54.56 | [Wobin] | deci is a walrus |
| 12:55.03 | deci | :) |
| 12:55.05 | yacoob | maia, alternative is, binding all members to keys |
| 12:55.07 | yacoob | or rather |
| 12:55.08 | maia | my chatframe in wow eats like every other letter in combat for that reason |
| 12:55.08 | krka | hmm... weird keyboard settings now |
| 12:55.24 | yacoob | have 10 binds, and after raid is set, you assign people to binds |
| 12:55.31 | yacoob | you don't heal whole raid, do you? |
| 12:55.34 | maia | it will only not eat keystrokes if I press like one key per second. |
| 12:55.51 | maia | yacoob: I've been spot-healer for the past 2.5 years. |
| 12:56.01 | deci | like i said eariler, keep in mind first, 25 man cap, second, you will not be the only healer, you can assign groups |
| 12:56.03 | yacoob | [Wobin], I suggest putting 'DON'T PANIC' in nice friendly letters on the topic :D |
| 12:56.15 | [Wobin] | aye |
| 12:56.36 | yacoob | maia, things change. Surely, don't worry too much NOW. If it barfs up later on, you drop it. Till then - have fun. |
| 12:56.37 | maia | deci: I havent done most of BWL, AQ40 and Naxx yet, so I bet I'll spend another year in 40man raids. plus AV. |
| 12:57.10 | maia | yacoob: I've not had fun for the past 6 months, I was only waiting for the expansion. |
| 12:57.11 | XLVII | Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/13253' |
| 12:57.11 | XLVII | Error: No such revision 13253 |
| 12:57.21 | XLVII | I keep on getting a heap of errors from the SVN.. |
| 12:57.26 | deci | so you could assign healers to specific groups to overcome the need of click casting and bind keys to premade groups prior to engaging |
| 12:57.32 | maia | XLVII: that means the svn mirror isnt fully synced yet. |
| 12:57.34 | mjc | XLVII: someone's mirror isn't up to sync |
| 12:57.35 | XLVII | Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/!svn/bln/13252' |
| 12:57.35 | XLVII | Error: No such revision 13252 |
| 12:57.41 | XLVII | Ok, no worries.. |
| 12:57.43 | mjc | who's mirror is it :( |
| 12:57.47 | XLVII | How long do they normally take? |
| 12:57.51 | mjc | it should be set up in the commit hooko |
| 12:57.52 | XLVII | How do I tell? |
| 12:57.52 | mjc | hook |
| 12:58.04 | XLVII | I'm using TortoiseSVN |
| 12:58.08 | mjc | XLVII: I have no idea |
| 12:58.11 | mjc | just curious |
| 12:58.18 | XLVII | Ok |
| 12:58.29 | mjc | let me see if it's mine, though it shouldn't be |
| 12:58.29 | maia | deci: well, I bet I'd like BC more if I had a mage that just spams one spell constantly on one single target. the changes mainly affect healers/dispellers. |
| 12:59.05 | FISKER_Q | yaaaaaaaaaaaay |
| 12:59.18 | deci | maia: i know where youre coming from, im a pve shaman so all i do is heal and drop totems, guess we have to wait and see what exactly that have with API functions and whatnot |
| 12:59.23 | maia | and I enjoyed spot-healing for years. so why does blizzard now want to force me into a different role? |
| 12:59.30 | FISKER_Q | delete 3000 emails that was spam |
| 12:59.34 | FISKER_Q | deleted* |
| 13:00.06 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 13:00.21 | Nickenyfiken | my gmail account get alot of spam now but 99% is filtered |
| 13:00.22 | Neebler | http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5963/buffsff2.jpg |
| 13:00.24 | maia | we're now back to EQ - people only caring about their subgroups (or specific classes/...) |
| 13:00.26 | Neebler | that makes my nipples perky |
| 13:00.30 | mjc | http://sisuguild.fi/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3120 http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php? |
| 13:00.30 | mjc | t=4696&highlight=fubar+skin |
| 13:00.43 | mjc | this guy keeps going to /root and /svnweb from those links |
| 13:00.44 | mjc | bah |
| 13:00.59 | andreasg | Hopefully I will get a full PVE shadow priest spot in BC so I can forget about click healing and just nuke :P |
| 13:01.00 | Mery | how do you heal maia? (sorry I didn't get it yet) |
| 13:01.16 | maia | Mery: right now? |
| 13:01.19 | Mery | ya |
| 13:01.29 | Nickenyfiken | well wont clique work in TBC? |
| 13:01.54 | maia | currently I use Squishy to target a unit with high priority (#1 - #3) via keybinding. then click another keybinding for a heal. |
| 13:02.11 | deci | Nickenyfiken: we dont know exactly what will and wont work, some addons may be partially broken |
| 13:02.17 | maia | or on trash pulls, I use a macro that will target and cast in one keypress. |
| 13:02.23 | Mery | uh yeah this high priorty thing is what they want to get rid of |
| 13:02.40 | Mery | target with /target ? |
| 13:02.47 | Nickenyfiken | ok i thought Clique was going to work with some adjustments only |
| 13:02.52 | maia | Mery: target? |
| 13:03.32 | Nickenyfiken | its not that hard to scan through your raid and see what unit needs most healing and click using clique |
| 13:03.34 | Nickenyfiken | max 25 in raid in TBC too |
| 13:03.40 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13255 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist - Fixed error with barcolor and texture in the StartBar method |
| 13:03.48 | maia | Mery: if I could easily target all 40 units in a raid, I wouldnt need priority stuff that much. but as I cant (and dont want to bind 40 keys for each raid unit), I have to use some priority tool that will limit the number of units. |
| 13:03.50 | Nickenyfiken | and the raid can still be sorted by class right? |
| 13:04.07 | yacoob | maia, and I have a feeling, call it reading between the lines, that blizz is going to put something that will recompensate this |
| 13:04.09 | Mery | yeah and thats what they want to get rid off obviously |
| 13:04.13 | maia | Nickenyfiken: again, I'm NOT using a mouse. now tell me how you'd easily do that with keyboard only. |
| 13:04.16 | yacoob | of course we'd have to change the way we're used to |
| 13:04.36 | yacoob | maia, how about the change I proposed, 10 keybinds, 10 people? |
| 13:04.47 | maia | what about the 30 other people? |
| 13:04.53 | Mery | only 15 other |
| 13:04.57 | yacoob | other healers care for them |
| 13:05.09 | maia | hello, all exising instances will still be 40man. |
| 13:05.12 | Nickenyfiken | maia: well i wasnt explicitly answering you. But just out of curiosity why dont you want to use mouse? |
| 13:05.28 | yacoob | Nickenyfiken, some people are faster with keyboard, for starters |
| 13:05.29 | maia | Nickenyfiken: because I can only use one hand. |
| 13:05.55 | Nickenyfiken | maia: ah ok |
| 13:05.58 | mjc | owned |
| 13:06.55 | maia | and currently I cant think of a way to set up my keyboard to spot-heal properly (unless using multiple keystrokes like suggested, but that will lengthen the time on each spell, mainly instant spells) |
| 13:07.18 | krka | why not use muouse? |
| 13:07.28 | Gngsk | o_O |
| 13:07.47 | maia | krka: scroll up like 5 lines. |
| 13:07.59 | krka | .. oh sorry |
| 13:08.24 | Nickenyfiken | would it be possible to make a mod where each UF is like a cell in a table and you can use buttons (up, down, left, right) to jump around in the table to select that unit? |
| 13:09.07 | krka | well, you could use only mouse and no keyboard mayeb |
| 13:09.38 | mjc | krka: quiet you |
| 13:10.12 | Neebler | mjc has a subscription to Nintendo Power |
| 13:10.13 | yacoob | maia, you'd have to coordinate with other healers, apparently |
| 13:10.38 | mjc | Neebler: hah, that would require me to own a console eh |
| 13:10.55 | XLVII | Error: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 13:10.55 | XLVII | Error: Target path does not exist |
| 13:10.57 | XLVII | Error: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 13:10.57 | XLVII | Error: Target path does not exist |
| 13:10.59 | XLVII | Error: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 13:11.00 | XLVII | Error: Target path does not exist |
| 13:11.04 | Neebler | SLEEP |
| 13:11.06 | XLVII | Error: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 13:11.06 | XLVII | Error: Target path does not exist |
| 13:11.10 | XLVII | OH CRAP! |
| 13:11.11 | XLVII | ;F |
| 13:11.12 | maia | Nickenyfiken: of course thats possible. but it will take quite a time to select a unit. especially as the server needs to ACK each keypress you make, so with low FPS or high latency pressing 3 keys takes 3 seconds. |
| 13:11.15 | XLVII | Sorry for the flood.. |
| 13:11.19 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13256 10Antagonist/Antagonist-locale.lua: Antagonist - Basic Korean localization (spells only) |
| 13:11.23 | XLVII | Didn't realise my window was scrolled up.. |
| 13:11.24 | XLVII | ;F |
| 13:11.53 | mjc | XLVII: are you 65.98.61.58? |
| 13:13.27 | yacoob | and are you at 127.0.0.1? :) |
| 13:14.13 | CIA-17 | 03otravi * r13257 10oUF/oUF.toc: oUF2 - TOC change. |
| 13:14.14 | deci | There's no place like 127.0.0.1 |
| 13:14.34 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=Andreas@0x535cbb62.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 13:14.47 | maia | nerd! :) |
| 13:14.57 | krka | need to ACK each keypress? didnt know that |
| 13:15.00 | nevcairiel | and proud of it |
| 13:15.03 | maia | krka: yeah :( |
| 13:15.10 | krka | where did you read that? |
| 13:15.17 | deci | :) |
| 13:15.20 | deci | hi/bye clad |
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| 13:16.04 | maia | krka: I didnt read it. But I've been playing for 2.5 years, so I know it. |
| 13:16.45 | maia | krka: as mentioned earlier, with my 2-4FPS when raiding and a 400ms latency I have to type one letter per second if I dont want the chatframe to eat eavery other letter. |
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| 13:17.02 | maia | if I type fast, then other people see it rather abbreviated |
| 13:17.10 | Nickenyfiken | maia: ok, i mean you only change like a marker or something on the UF on the client side and as soon as you try to use a spell on the unit that unit is targeted. It must be possible to select a frame on the client side right without the server has to know it? |
| 13:17.58 | maia | kll he moIm tagtting! |
| 13:17.58 | maia | (=kill the mob I'm targetting) |
| 13:17.58 | ag` | guys : http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32184244&sid=1 |
| 13:18.00 | ag` | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.15 | maia | ag`: yeah, we know. |
| 13:18.19 | ag` | ok. |
| 13:18.35 | ag` | but clique still uses targetting fucntion to pick the target no? |
| 13:18.40 | maia | Nickenyfiken: there currently is no way to do so, afaik. |
| 13:18.54 | maia | ag`: dont worry about Clique. It#s fixable. |
| 13:19.02 | Nickenyfiken | maia: ok |
| 13:19.21 | ag` | ok.. As long as I can click heal I'm fine. |
| 13:19.26 | krka | uhm... chatframe doesnt send when you type, it sends when you hit enter |
| 13:19.33 | ag` | if rank selection is broken it's sad, but as long as clickhealing stays everything is not lost. |
| 13:19.34 | Nickenyfiken | ag`: yeah i feel the same |
| 13:19.48 | Nickenyfiken | ag`: will there be any problems with agUF? |
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| 13:20.09 | ag` | Nickenyfiken, no, I am more worried about pubcrawl =) |
| 13:20.33 | nevcairiel | UF will need to be changed and fixed, but shouldnt lose any functionality |
| 13:20.46 | Nickenyfiken | ag`: oh why? isnt it using default action buttons? |
| 13:20.50 | maia | krka: another example why I know keystrokes are related to latency: people with 60% speed mounts are FASTER than me with an epic mount in AV if I have 20ppl on my screen. and I have autorun turned on. |
| 13:20.56 | ag` | not default action buttons no, Nickenyfiken |
| 13:21.11 | Nickenyfiken | thats bartender right? |
| 13:21.12 | mjc | nevcairiel: you have me confused as f. |
| 13:21.35 | mjc | maia: wtf? |
| 13:21.54 | mjc | I've never seen that |
| 13:21.57 | krka | i don't buy it |
| 13:22.10 | krka | have you measured your own run speed? |
| 13:22.22 | maia | mjc: I didnt believe it either. but its a fact. once all others are far away, my mount is back to full speed. |
| 13:22.35 | mjc | get a new computer? |
| 13:22.43 | Nickenyfiken | eh what? |
| 13:23.17 | maia | krka: if 40 ppl mout up at the same time in AV and all ride towards SH, and I ride there with an epic mount and autor tun on, and by the time I arrive at IB the people with epic mounts have already capped SH, then you know theres something wrong. |
| 13:23.32 | mjc | maia: new computer |
| 13:23.34 | maia | mjc: its related to latency, not fps I guess. |
| 13:23.38 | ag` | what does secure frames mean? |
| 13:23.48 | mjc | maia: I don't have a problem with either. shrug |
| 13:23.52 | nevcairiel | secure frames can call secure functions |
| 13:24.02 | maia | ag`: secure frames can be clickable, but you cant alter them (show/hide/move) in combat |
| 13:24.02 | nevcairiel | but cannot be moved or shown/hidden in combat |
| 13:24.16 | ag` | so what if a member leaves in combat |
| 13:24.17 | Nickenyfiken | "If you cast a buff that's too high level for a friendly target, the game will automatically use the appropriate rank of that spell instead." nice |
| 13:24.20 | [Wobin] | feh latency |
| 13:24.21 | ag` | how do you hide it? |
| 13:24.36 | maia | ag`: wait until you're out of combat. |
| 13:24.37 | MoonWolf | out of combat |
| 13:24.55 | nevcairiel | we think that raidframes will be a special template that might hide when the unit leaves, but not sure |
| 13:25.04 | ag` | maia, hm? So if you hae a unit frame leaving members won't be hidden until you leave combat?? |
| 13:25.16 | mjc | be nice if they'd auto-rank spells on healing needed :P |
| 13:25.17 | maia | ag`: basically addons like DamageMeters/SW-Stats will continue to work, as theres no need to target a unit by clicking on the bars - and static raid frames like PerfectRaid will work too. they are breaking emergency monitors. |
| 13:25.24 | MoonWolf | want to hide the frame in combat ? |
| 13:25.29 | krka | i don't buy the fact that your messages gets truncated on transmission if you type them too fast |
| 13:25.33 | MoonWolf | set its transperency |
| 13:25.44 | maia | krka: well, its a fact. |
| 13:25.45 | XLVII | Error: Failed to add directory 'C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\Prat\libs': object of the same name already exists |
| 13:26.01 | ag` | maia, I am thinking about aUF. if a member leaves the party, the group layout is redone. That's not possible? |
| 13:26.02 | mjc | XLVII: you already have a libs dir and you're trying to make another one |
| 13:26.03 | mjc | fix your client |
| 13:26.11 | maia | krka: wait, they dont get truncated ON TRANSMISSION but are even truncated on my chat input box. |
| 13:26.24 | mjc | maia: computer. |
| 13:26.33 | krka | the only explanation would be that the low framerate would miss keystrokes but then they wouldnt appear on your own input box either |
| 13:26.41 | Mery | well everytime you hit a key a lua function is exectued that scans for /commands so its prolly your computer is too slow |
| 13:26.43 | maia | possible. |
| 13:26.48 | mjc | maia: fact :) |
| 13:27.10 | nevcairiel | ag`: no one knows for certain yet, we will have to wait for the information on the secure frames, but those are still a work in progress, as slouken said. |
| 13:27.15 | mjc | my gf has a 900MHz duron with a geforce2 and she doesn't experience this. so you have some problems :) |
| 13:27.22 | mjc | 200ms ping to the server for her, also |
| 13:27.42 | ag` | nevcairiel, thanks. I hope this is not the case, else it would suck really bad. |
| 13:27.48 | maia | mjc: I'm playing on a 2yr old iBook. I'm still waiting for the new macBookPros, but they arent released yet :( |
| 13:27.57 | mjc | maia: you are wanting a core2 ? |
| 13:28.00 | maia | ya |
| 13:28.04 | mjc | figured |
| 13:28.05 | ag` | yeah, what's up with apple and core 2 duo... |
| 13:28.10 | mjc | fuckin 2yr old ibook yes |
| 13:28.12 | mjc | I could totally see that |
| 13:28.14 | ag` | just release them already? |
| 13:28.30 | maia | ag`: I think they are redoing the enclosure of the MBP |
| 13:28.31 | mjc | ag`: marketing, strategic planning, etc. |
| 13:28.44 | maia | as it hasnt seen a change in the past 4 years |
| 13:28.46 | mjc | I'm getting a mac pro soon |
| 13:28.52 | ag` | maia, how would it be able to look better though?=) |
| 13:28.58 | mjc | insides |
| 13:29.18 | maia | ag`: the ney keyboard the MB has? the magnetic latch?... |
| 13:29.32 | ag` | I hate the magnetic latch :) |
| 13:29.32 | mjc | I love the keyboard i have on my pb |
| 13:29.41 | mjc | and I want the magnetic power cord :D |
| 13:29.51 | maia | afk for a few mins. |
| 13:29.54 | mjc | my PB's cord is > < close to useless |
| 13:30.10 | mjc | (less so than my toshiba's cord was... went through 4 of those) |
| 13:30.16 | ag` | I tried it in a shop on the mb, you need to use way more strengh to open it and that indetion where you put your fingers in to open it looks like crap |
| 13:31.57 | mjc | shrug, never had a problem here |
| 13:32.02 | mjc | keeps it from accidental openings |
| 13:33.41 | yacoob | [2006/10/07 15:28:04-309]: SimpleCombatLog\core.lua:666: bad argument #2 to `format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 13:33.46 | yacoob | in GetExpTrailerString. |
| 13:33.49 | yacoob | Known? |
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| 13:36.01 | CIA-17 | 03moonwolf * r13258 10Mendeleev/MendeleevCats.lua: |
| 13:36.01 | CIA-17 | Mendeleev: |
| 13:36.01 | CIA-17 | - Added LBRS |
| 13:36.01 | CIA-17 | - Added BRD |
| 13:36.01 | CIA-17 | - Added Scholomance |
| 13:36.01 | CIA-17 | - Added Stratholme |
| 13:36.03 | CIA-17 | - Added the temple of hakkar |
| 13:36.28 | mjc | sunken temple? |
| 13:36.39 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 13:36.41 | SH|Shabador | Hm... Does Prat have a "color names by class" module? Or should I just use Teknicolor? |
| 13:36.59 | mjc | I use teknicolor |
| 13:37.23 | Curney | the "playernames" module does color by class |
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| 13:38.54 | Mikma | MoonWolf: nice updates *clap* |
| 13:39.06 | MoonWolf | don't clap for now |
| 13:39.11 | MoonWolf | still a lot of work to do |
| 13:39.16 | MoonWolf | like all the raid instances |
| 13:39.27 | MoonWolf | and puttin all the locals in acelocale. |
| 13:39.50 | [Wobin] | Is tek doing anything with PT? |
| 13:40.03 | MoonWolf | last thing was adding the naxx loot we know so far |
| 13:40.19 | MoonWolf | but its going to be a while untill we can safely say we know the loot tables of naxx completly |
| 13:40.24 | Wobin | Damn that netherlandic Wobin |
| 13:40.34 | Wobin | ah |
| 13:40.40 | Wobin | is it Ace2/ |
| 13:40.42 | Wobin | ? |
| 13:40.46 | MoonWolf | no its |
| 13:40.58 | MoonWolf | pretty much iriels original stuff |
| 13:41.01 | Wobin | it's really it's own, emblib isn't it? |
| 13:41.06 | mjc | oRA2's cooldown stuff is effed |
| 13:41.27 | Wobin | I was wondering if we could involve AceLocale into it to give 'usable' names |
| 13:41.44 | Wobin | Aye SH|Shabador the overhaul is in progress |
| 13:41.52 | SH|Shabador | Seriously?! :D |
| 13:41.54 | SH|Shabador | Cool. :) |
| 13:42.03 | MoonWolf | well the planning of it anyway i think. |
| 13:42.28 | Wobin | Cause the way I was using PT in PK, was.. to say the least, difficult to read |
| 13:42.36 | Wobin | (ie using the categories directly) |
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| 13:42.42 | yacoob | someone, somewhere has heard about a man, whose niece accidentialy met someone, that thought about asking for plowking overhaul, yes... |
| 13:42.53 | mjc | heh |
| 13:43.07 | mjc | Wobin: mrplow + plowking = plowgasm |
| 13:43.12 | MoonWolf | wobin ever looked at a mendy category ? |
| 13:43.28 | Wobin | hm, no |
| 13:43.29 | yacoob | mjc, what good is mrplow for, with plowking? |
| 13:43.31 | FISKER_Q | yacoob obviously she was just asking to be plowed |
| 13:43.31 | Wobin | I'll have a looksee |
| 13:43.42 | Mikma | MoonWolf: Mendeleev2? |
| 13:43.56 | mjc | yacoob: for when you don't have PK installed things are somewhat sane |
| 13:44.05 | MoonWolf | i will not call is v2 |
| 13:44.13 | MoonWolf | it* |
| 13:44.14 | Sole | HOLY BEJEBUS |
| 13:44.18 | Mikma | ok, how about mendeleev2 then |
| 13:44.22 | Sole | I just releasied something |
| 13:44.36 | MoonWolf | how about mendeleev 0.8 |
| 13:44.41 | MoonWolf | untill i call it stable |
| 13:44.44 | MoonWolf | and then mendeleev 1.0 |
| 13:45.08 | Wobin | I still like MrPlow for the bankstacking =) |
| 13:45.10 | MoonWolf | or maybe i'll release it as 1.0 now. |
| 13:45.27 | Wobin | It means I don't have to think about what tokens are in my inventory, they get moved automatically |
| 13:45.30 | Sole | Im reading over hte Gladiator gear again and I noticed the rogue gloves: Equip: Causes your Deadly Throw ability to interrupt spellcasting and prevent any spell in that school from being cast for 3 sec |
| 13:45.39 | Wobin | Deadly Throw? |
| 13:45.43 | Sole | ranged kick + crippling + eviscerate |
| 13:45.45 | Wobin | <.< |
| 13:45.45 | Sole | new rogue finisher |
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| 13:46.00 | Sole | it uses Throwing Weapons |
| 13:46.06 | Wobin | omg |
| 13:46.09 | Gngsk | sick |
| 13:46.12 | Wobin | Who throws a shoe?! |
| 13:46.14 | yacoob | Deadly Throw Up. |
| 13:46.19 | Sole | deals dmg per combo point, + reduces move speed + kick I guess with this gloves |
| 13:46.23 | Wobin | I mean, honestly! |
| 13:46.30 | Sole | kek |
| 13:46.34 | Gngsk | you have to be at range to use it though? |
| 13:46.37 | yacoob | Deals nature damage to oponnent, and makes him walk away in disgust, for 7 seconds |
| 13:46.40 | Wobin | Does it have a 'deadzone'? =) |
| 13:46.42 | Sole | I think so |
| 13:46.46 | Sole | I dont know |
| 13:46.58 | Gngsk | seems pretty situational |
| 13:47.00 | Wobin | hehe otherwise you'd hear the screams from the hunters =) |
| 13:47.13 | mjc | deals nature damage to opponent, and makes him fart in your face |
| 13:47.26 | Sole | yea it has a dead zone |
| 13:47.29 | Sole | 8-30 yrd |
| 13:48.14 | Wobin | good for if you're frostnovad |
| 13:48.24 | Sole | ya or being kited |
| 13:48.39 | Sole | + Disembowel is basicly a buffed evis by the looks of things |
| 13:48.45 | Wobin | but it's a finishing move? |
| 13:48.52 | yacoob | "Finish him!" |
| 13:48.55 | Wobin | you'd still need to build up the combopoints somehow |
| 13:48.58 | Sole | yea its a finishing move |
| 13:49.02 | yacoob | (hm, is there a good ace2 sound addon? :) |
| 13:49.09 | Sole | well Im premed so I start the fight with 2 cp already |
| 13:49.17 | Sole | if I get cheapshot IVe got 4 or 5 cp |
| 13:49.27 | SH|Shabador | Hm... Any solution to the "Squishy-wreaks-havoc-to-channels-but-it's-not-squishy-it's-acecomm"-problem? |
| 13:50.01 | Sole | it looks like blizz is wanting rogues to stray from stunlocking |
| 13:50.05 | Sole | to pure out damage |
| 13:50.11 | yacoob | Sole, and start healing, hell yes! |
| 13:50.15 | Sole | Finishing move that causes damage per combo point, increased by Attack Power. Damage is reduced by 5% for each dose of Deadly Poison below five on the target. |
| 13:50.17 | Sole | lawl |
| 13:50.19 | yacoob | I was always skillfull with bandages |
| 13:50.25 | yacoob | look at that: |
| 13:50.28 | yacoob | *fwooosh* |
| 13:50.36 | mummyoob | see? |
| 13:50.51 | Sole | well Disembowel is a good example, deadly poison is anti stunlock..but with it we do a fair ammount more damage than with evis |
| 13:51.05 | Sole | + how garrote silences now |
| 13:51.18 | Sole | nifty stuff |
| 13:51.25 | Mikma | laelae |
| 13:51.33 | hugo | hm |
| 13:51.39 | Mikma | i'm about to start to write my PopUpChat or RaidChatter |
| 13:51.44 | Mikma | maybe PopUpChat |
| 13:51.55 | hugo | i have rogue alt with blue maces from diremaul that can stunlock rank14 warrior in his warlord armor |
| 13:51.57 | hugo | ^^ |
| 13:52.06 | hugo | 23/5/25build |
| 13:52.07 | maia | SH|Shabador: unfotunately not. only ckknight can fix it. |
| 13:52.53 | vhaarr | Mikma: From that forum idea? |
| 13:53.12 | Mikma | vhaarr: well yeah, i posted my idea there for others to see because i was bored :) |
| 13:53.18 | vhaarr | err |
| 13:53.27 | vhaarr | Someone posted it before you. |
| 13:53.33 | Mikma | no, i did it :D |
| 13:53.49 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2505.0 |
| 13:54.00 | yacoob | Mikma, what would be the pop bubble looking like? :) |
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| 13:54.15 | Mikma | yacoob: like normal chatframe |
| 13:54.18 | deci | Wobin is a walrus |
| 13:54.29 | yacoob | ah, make it mtv info-pop style |
| 13:54.32 | yacoob | with animation :) |
| 13:54.34 | Mikma | Wobin: oink oink |
| 13:54.36 | XLVII | sorry for all the stupid questions |
| 13:54.36 | deci | :) |
| 13:54.38 | Sole | hugo: hemo is sweet aint it :) |
| 13:54.42 | XLVII | but uh.. what exactly does: |
| 13:54.42 | Wobin | walrus don't oink =P |
| 13:54.43 | XLVII | Error: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 13:54.43 | XLVII | Error: Target path does not exist |
| 13:54.44 | Wobin | they bark |
| 13:54.44 | XLVII | mean? |
| 13:54.51 | hugo | i would say too powerfull in pvp .] |
| 13:55.04 | vhaarr | Mikma: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2345.0 |
| 13:55.09 | Wobin | Can I get some advice on a rogue build? |
| 13:55.18 | Wobin | I'm currently a mace combat/hemo |
| 13:55.19 | deci | what weapons |
| 13:55.19 | Sole | whats your gear like |
| 13:55.20 | Mikma | vhaarr: no that's not what i had in mind |
| 13:55.23 | Wobin | hm |
| 13:55.24 | mjc | ew hemo |
| 13:55.25 | Mikma | vhaarr: read my post again :P |
| 13:55.26 | Wobin | bludstone |
| 13:55.28 | hugo | for raid combat dagget with slice n dice |
| 13:55.30 | deci | link a ctprofile! |
| 13:55.31 | hugo | for pvp hemo |
| 13:55.34 | Wobin | and that frost one from Ras |
| 13:55.38 | Sole | mjc: hemo is fun |
| 13:55.39 | Mikma | h-emo! |
| 13:55.44 | Wobin | I like maces =) |
| 13:55.51 | mjc | I have an empyrean demolisher |
| 13:55.52 | Wobin | even if it means a hit in dps I guess |
| 13:55.54 | mjc | I don't really like it |
| 13:55.57 | Sole | mjc: I play on high ping so I dont like daggers that much "Must be behind targeT" |
| 13:56.05 | Wobin | Agreed! |
| 13:56.06 | Wobin | totally! |
| 13:56.08 | Wobin | omg |
| 13:56.12 | Wobin | a reason =) |
| 13:56.12 | hugo | Mikma > http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jhe0oxubZhZxMe0chRo |
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| 13:56.24 | Wobin | yes, I deal with 700+ms latency |
| 13:56.28 | Sole | Wobin: gimme your gear |
| 13:56.32 | yacoob | Sole, get spam-i-am, and make messages begone :) |
| 13:56.32 | hugo | er that is for Wobin, the link |
| 13:56.33 | Wobin | so daggers isn't really useful =\ |
| 13:56.35 | Sole | I deal with about 300-500 |
| 13:56.39 | yacoob | (no, it will not autoposition your target :) |
| 13:56.41 | Wobin | hm, lemme download ctprofile |
| 13:56.44 | hugo | wobin check the my link is hemo build, you need slow weapons |
| 13:56.49 | hugo | like 2.6speed+ mainhand |
| 13:57.00 | Sole | yacoob: the problem is I cant hit with backstab, I dont care bout the messages :P |
| 13:57.17 | yacoob | Sole, just read up, too bad. |
| 13:57.19 | Sole | well Wobin: Im a funky build, hemo + premed + ambush |
| 13:57.29 | Mikma | hemorrhage always reminds me of... hemoroids (or something) |
| 13:57.30 | mjc | hugo: he meant BC, I think |
| 13:57.30 | Sole | trust me I know what Im talking bout :P |
| 13:57.36 | Sole | I played as seal fate for about 5 months |
| 13:57.38 | hugo | ah |
| 13:57.41 | Sole | all together :P |
| 13:57.45 | mjc | Wobin: 700ms+ ?? wtf is wrong with you. switch providers |
| 13:57.47 | hugo | you have time for bc |
| 13:57.54 | Wobin | er. I'm in Australia =P |
| 13:57.58 | Sole | and combat swords for about 7..and hemo and other weird builds |
| 13:58.04 | Wobin | So thus == sucky latency. |
| 13:58.08 | Mikma | like, stab a knife up a mobs but so he bleeds |
| 13:58.11 | mjc | Wobin: go out and enjoy the wilderness |
| 13:58.12 | Sole | Im in new zealand :( |
| 13:58.23 | Wobin | but everything here is poisonous! |
| 13:58.23 | Sole | and then get bitten by a snake |
| 13:58.24 | Wobin | =) |
| 13:58.38 | hugo | btw anyone can help me |
| 13:58.40 | Sole | aussie has 18 of hte most posionous snakes in the world :( |
| 13:59.02 | hugo | i want my target of target frame size to be same height as width, like 40x40 in ag_unitframes, anyone know how to do that ? ;] |
| 13:59.14 | Sole | Wobin: Ill enlighten you on my build whether you like it or not |
| 13:59.18 | Sole | Wobin: ^_^ |
| 13:59.46 | Sole | Wobin: Basic premed + hemo build but I also picked up imp ambush and opportunity so I can do a 2k+ ambush for an opener |
| 13:59.55 | Sole | probably the most fun Ive had pvping yet |
| 14:00.20 | hugo | well killing r14 warrior in a nonstop stun is safer really |
| 14:00.30 | Sole | I get bored of stunlock |
| 14:00.30 | hugo | just buy alot fadeleaf ;] |
| 14:00.35 | Sole | heres my warrior strat: |
| 14:00.45 | Sole | premed cheapshot expose armor evasion tank that bitch |
| 14:00.51 | Sole | if evasion runs out...prep evasion |
| 14:00.52 | mjc | Wobin: btw cladhaire wants /branches/ADDON_NAME/branchname/ADDON_NAME |
| 14:01.04 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:01.10 | hugo | evasion wtf ? |
| 14:01.10 | mjc | so fix mrp |
| 14:01.10 | Sole | so far Ive killed most warriors pretty quickly actually |
| 14:01.15 | Sole | yes evasion |
| 14:01.16 | JJacobsson | Dodge + warrior == overpower -> *ouch* |
| 14:01.18 | hugo | do you fight warriors without overpower |
| 14:01.23 | Sole | yep |
| 14:01.28 | Sole | and thats the only thing theyve got |
| 14:01.32 | Sole | overpower once every 6 sec |
| 14:01.35 | hugo | and that kills you |
| 14:01.39 | Sole | no mortal strikes, no auto attacks no nothing |
| 14:01.50 | deci | warriors with endgame dps gear and that overpower is like 2k damage |
| 14:01.54 | Mikma | vhaarr: lol. should i name it as "Popsicle" or "PopUpChat" ? ;) |
| 14:01.55 | Sole | doesnt kill me |
| 14:02.00 | hugo | 2hits bye bye |
| 14:02.02 | hugo | ;d |
| 14:02.02 | maia | ag`: ping |
| 14:02.04 | SH|Shabador | Server crashes are fun: |
| 14:02.05 | SH|Shabador | http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thelagtulonzj7.jpg |
| 14:02.05 | SH|Shabador | http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6674/roflxu8.jpg |
| 14:02.09 | Sole | that requires 12 seconds :P |
| 14:02.15 | mjc | overpower hits for like 4k most of the time |
| 14:02.22 | Sole | not really... |
| 14:02.26 | hugo | hmm.. |
| 14:02.28 | deci | ive never been hit by a 4k overpowere |
| 14:02.33 | deci | lol |
| 14:02.39 | mjc | every time I die from one they're like 4k |
| 14:02.48 | deci | execute maybe |
| 14:02.52 | deci | not overpower |
| 14:02.53 | mjc | no, overpower |
| 14:02.55 | deci | odd |
| 14:02.56 | Sole | I tank them and I dont really feel them that bad |
| 14:03.11 | hugo | well on really good warriors i do cs hemo hemo ks hemo hemo blind cs coldblood+evis, bye bye, on weak players i dont use blind |
| 14:03.16 | deci | when im dps spec, it comes down to me critting |
| 14:03.24 | deci | if im resto/ele spec |
| 14:03.26 | deci | i never lose |
| 14:03.28 | hugo | and they just stand there in stun forever ;d |
| 14:03.29 | Sole | its more exciting than stunlock but I stunlock on good players |
| 14:04.10 | Wobin | bah |
| 14:04.12 | hugo | my rogue is just a blue alt and he can stunlock almost all |
| 14:04.16 | hugo | not really hard to play rogue |
| 14:04.21 | hugo | too imba in 1v1 |
| 14:04.21 | Wobin | why doesn't ctprofile have an addon? =P |
| 14:04.22 | ag` | maia, pong |
| 14:04.22 | hugo | :D |
| 14:04.36 | mjc | hugo: mages |
| 14:04.42 | hugo | i avoid mages |
| 14:04.44 | hugo | ;P |
| 14:04.50 | maia | ag`: ah... I wanted to ask you something regarding aguf and buff display |
| 14:05.02 | ag` | maia, fire away |
| 14:05.04 | hugo | mage is a problem |
| 14:05.08 | Mikma | SH|Shabador: burning_blade_-_the_drop.avi ... :) got it from haste |
| 14:05.20 | hugo | cant kill em |
| 14:05.24 | haste | :DDD |
| 14:05.31 | maia | ag`: as the "filter" option by blizzard is crap, I wonder if it would be possible to set up a list of buffs/debuff(types) you'd want to display on a unit, and hide all others, clientside. |
| 14:05.45 | SH|Shabador | Mikma, it happened on burning blade as well? This is neptulon. (5 minutes ago) |
| 14:05.57 | haste | it happened on Burning blade EU a year ago |
| 14:05.57 | Mikma | vhaarr: well, i think this addon can be extended to have the feature of the other idea in too |
| 14:06.06 | maia | e.g. I'd want to show renew/rejuv/shield/shield-debuff and magic/disease debuffs. nothing else. oh, maybe also mortal strike. |
| 14:06.11 | ag` | maia, it's possible yeah, but I don't have a system for it |
| 14:06.26 | maia | I know its possible :) it was a suggestion ;) |
| 14:06.29 | Mikma | ag`: make aguf_portraits |
| 14:06.37 | haste | SH|Shabador: I have a movie of it if you want :p |
| 14:06.49 | vhaarr | Mikma: I like small addons :) |
| 14:07.08 | Mikma | vhaarr: i can make you a small addon. like nothing in it ;) |
| 14:07.09 | ag` | Mikma, there is a branch |
| 14:07.17 | SH|Shabador | haste, I just saw it in "realtime" so... :) |
| 14:07.19 | Mikma | ag`: yes but make it a module |
| 14:07.24 | hugo | and i want ag unitframes for party to be circles |
| 14:07.28 | haste | heeh |
| 14:07.29 | hugo | half circle hp and half mana ;o |
| 14:07.47 | SH|Shabador | Everyone from an instance spawned in nothingness and fell after the servercrash. ^ |
| 14:08.07 | hugo | must be funny SH|Shabador ;] |
| 14:08.30 | SH|Shabador | mmm. More annoying then funny, really |
| 14:10.53 | mjc | magtheridon US has had 5 or 6 of those |
| 14:11.02 | hugo | im sure on our ventrilo we would be laughing forevedr |
| 14:11.11 | mjc | no it's really gay |
| 14:11.17 | mjc | we were yelling :p |
| 14:11.27 | mjc | and ventrilo's licensing is extortion |
| 14:11.31 | hugo | were funny guys so it would be fun ;p |
| 14:12.25 | SH|Shabador | The moment is funny as hell, but the consequenses are... not. :) |
| 14:12.41 | mjc | to say the least |
| 14:12.55 | SH|Shabador | Middle of an instance... Kind of sucky to be teleported 1500 feet into the air over stonetalon mountains |
| 14:13.01 | deci | lol |
| 14:13.04 | mjc | we were in BWL last time it happened |
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| 14:16.53 | mjc | dasfkl |
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| 14:17.24 | ag` | hey maia, I posted something in your thread :P |
| 14:18.08 | maia | ag`: yeah, I thought about using aguf too. |
| 14:18.25 | Wobin | http://ctprofiles.net/4019669 |
| 14:18.28 | Wobin | is my profile |
| 14:18.34 | maia | and I'd like to use it, but you'd need to give me a way to change the alpha of a unit |
| 14:18.51 | maia | like: agUF:SetAlpha(unitid,alpha) |
| 14:18.56 | ag` | maia, have you seen the range module sairen made? |
| 14:19.01 | maia | nope |
| 14:19.05 | Wobin | oh and my current latency is 558 standing on the AH bridge =P |
| 14:19.13 | maia | where is it? |
| 14:19.18 | ag` | maia, it fades aguf units if they are out of range, I use that myself |
| 14:19.25 | ag` | but I will make that API for you |
| 14:19.32 | ag` | I can do it now |
| 14:19.35 | maia | nice |
| 14:19.37 | ag` | it's quite simple |
| 14:20.03 | mjc | sprocket_itemrack rocks |
| 14:21.08 | ag` | but maia I was thinking, why not just hook auf.unitclass.update health (can't remember the name) and do self.frame:SetAlpha() ? |
| 14:21.35 | maia | ag`: I've never really looked at the aguf code. well, actually I did, but as its OO I didnt really understand it ;) |
| 14:21.54 | ag` | ok, but the thing I proposed would be a lot nicer actually |
| 14:22.06 | ag` | because then each unit would be in control of their own alpha |
| 14:22.08 | maia | but if you could pastebin me the 5 lines I'd need, then we could hack such an addon within the next 30min |
| 14:22.18 | ag` | ok |
| 14:22.22 | ag` | here's the deal |
| 14:22.27 | Sole | Wobin: your gear is poopy :( I hear hemo with blues can be decent though, just pump your atk power |
| 14:22.38 | Wobin | yeah, I have poopy eq |
| 14:22.43 | Wobin | Just got to 60 =) |
| 14:22.50 | Sole | =] |
| 14:22.53 | Wobin | I've been incredibly lucky in tier 0 though |
| 14:22.55 | ag` | maia, aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype:UpdateHealth is called each time a unit updates it's own health by an event |
| 14:22.59 | Wobin | Took two trips to get 4/8 |
| 14:23.05 | Sole | wow |
| 14:23.20 | Sole | I think I ran scholo 30 times and didnt even see the hood drop |
| 14:23.21 | ag` | so you simply hook aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype:UpdateHealth and make it set alpha according to it's health value |
| 14:23.28 | Wobin | omg best scholo ever |
| 14:23.34 | Wobin | I <3 scholo |
| 14:23.40 | Sole | so I just used some other decent helm and then got bf hood...back when it was just a red little thing :) |
| 14:23.41 | Wobin | as just about all the minibosses are stunnable =) |
| 14:24.00 | Wobin | I got the hood and boots, and the chestpiece and hammer, all in one run |
| 14:24.06 | Sole | nice |
| 14:24.12 | maia | ag`: I dont really know how to hook anything ;/ |
| 14:24.16 | Sole | Ive only ever had 2 shadowcraft |
| 14:24.21 | maia | especially OO |
| 14:24.26 | Sole | lol now Ive got 8/8 bf and 7/8 ns O_O |
| 14:24.32 | ag` | hm, use the Ace2 hook api |
| 14:24.32 | Sole | but never had more than 2 of tier 0 |
| 14:24.57 | Wobin | heh, my raiding guild is more ZG/AQ20 atm |
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| 14:24.59 | maia | ag`: again, I dont understand OO yet. I have no clue how to pass the unit id. |
| 14:25.01 | Wobin | so I could get ZG gear |
| 14:25.04 | Wobin | eventually |
| 14:25.13 | ag` | maia, take a look at this stuff I |
| 14:25.15 | Wobin | but less chance of the other tier gear |
| 14:25.16 | Sole | the ZG set is quite decent |
| 14:25.18 | ag` | I'm writing, two secs |
| 14:25.34 | Wobin | blooddrenched? |
| 14:26.22 | deci | http://www.imagesocket.com/view/me2add.jpg |
| 14:26.25 | deci | im so sexy |
| 14:26.27 | deci | cows ftw |
| 14:26.34 | CIA-17 | 03tazmanyak * r13259 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/CooldownLocals.lua: FuBar_tcgTradeskill/CooldownLocals.lua - fr locals patch |
| 14:26.37 | Sole | holy shit |
| 14:26.42 | Sole | I just saw something very SEXY |
| 14:26.47 | Wobin | http://i12.tinypic.com/2i134uf.png |
| 14:26.52 | Wobin | Best Mount Ever |
| 14:26.55 | deci | lol |
| 14:26.58 | haste | deci: white tauren =\ |
| 14:27.03 | Sole | Gladiator's War Edge: >>> Thrown <<< 79 dps + stats |
| 14:27.20 | Nightdew | who is schelli? |
| 14:27.25 | deci | lol haste |
| 14:27.28 | Sole | ^ every rogue's new ranged wep |
| 14:27.41 | deci | yea Sole |
| 14:27.43 | deci | finally! |
| 14:27.47 | maia | ag`: btw, how can I tell which number a unit in a specific subgroup has? (aka the ordering of units in the social raid tab) |
| 14:27.58 | haste | deci: http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/leifur.png << my shaman looks very hot |
| 14:27.58 | deci | look haste http://www.imagesocket.com/view/me_749.jpg |
| 14:28.00 | deci | my nagry eyes |
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| 14:28.10 | deci | angry~ |
| 14:28.23 | deci | hot haste |
| 14:28.25 | Sole | lawl nagry |
| 14:28.28 | deci | :P |
| 14:28.30 | kovi | albino cow ftl |
| 14:28.32 | kovi | :/ |
| 14:28.38 | deci | omg the hate |
| 14:28.39 | deci | :< |
| 14:28.42 | kovi | :D |
| 14:28.43 | Sole | wow |
| 14:28.45 | Sole | shaman with dark edge? |
| 14:28.50 | Sole | that shit must be nanners |
| 14:29.03 | deci | yea with my dps gear and spec'd for it |
| 14:29.07 | ag` | maia, I can save the number but it's not possible atm to retrieve that order |
| 14:29.11 | deci | ~900 atk power and almost 30 crit |
| 14:29.21 | deci | :) |
| 14:29.21 | ag` | but it's doable |
| 14:29.21 | maia | I see |
| 14:29.21 | ag` | maia, http://pastebin.ca/194071 |
| 14:29.34 | ag` | that should set any units alpha to 0.2 when it's health is 0 |
| 14:29.38 | ag` | it's just an example |
| 14:29.47 | ag` | maybe it should be 100% instead :P |
| 14:30.07 | maia | okay, give me like 10 minutes. |
| 14:30.20 | haste | Sole: we gave the first dark edge we got to a shaman |
| 14:30.25 | haste | Sole: and the first sulfuras |
| 14:30.31 | haste | Sole: and the first nightfall |
| 14:30.31 | steino | And the second to a prot warrior |
| 14:30.32 | steino | :) |
| 14:31.03 | haste | we gave the second nightfall to a shaman also |
| 14:31.04 | deci | i dont use the dark edge anymore :< |
| 14:31.14 | deci | i got a severance a few days ago |
| 14:31.27 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r13260 10Popsicle/ (18 files in 9 dirs): Popsicle: Initial import. does not do anything yet |
| 14:31.34 | haste | severance + orc = win |
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| 14:32.52 | [Wobin] | blah |
| 14:33.09 | Wobin | so. |
| 14:33.11 | maia | ag`: err, by using that function, it'll process all raid units, or only one? |
| 14:33.14 | Wobin | I was thinking of switching more to an assassination/combat build |
| 14:33.17 | Wobin | for the extra damage |
| 14:33.19 | Wobin | even though I like hemo for what it is |
| 14:33.28 | maia | ag`: aka does it call that function for each unit, therefor changing self.unit? |
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| 14:33.37 | deci | hemo is better with high atk power |
| 14:34.06 | ag` | maia, all unit objects register the event unit health and calls that function when that event is fired |
| 14:34.26 | maia | ah |
| 14:34.55 | ag` | so think of it like as if you're coding the stuff to only work for one unit |
| 14:35.05 | ag` | you don't have to think of how you make the magic happen for all units |
| 14:35.13 | ag` | because the units themselves takes care of that |
| 14:35.30 | ag` | I should say objects really |
| 14:35.59 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r13261 10Popsicle/libs/: Popsicle: externals |
| 14:36.02 | Mikma | whops |
| 14:36.40 | ag` | maia, I have a typo |
| 14:36.52 | ag` | line 3 should say function before the rest |
| 14:36.58 | ag` | function aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype:UpdateHealthNew(byevent) |
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| 14:37.06 | maia | k |
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| 14:38.54 | ag` | maia, tell me if you can't make it work... I don't have access to wow atm |
| 14:39.04 | maia | yeah, I need 5 more minutes |
| 14:39.09 | ag` | ok |
| 14:39.38 | Tek|Hibernate | øffe |
| 14:39.52 | Nightdew | is there an ace addon that lets you make notes on your map? |
| 14:40.36 | Wobin | is that swedish for 'urf'? |
| 14:41.18 | Saroz | sup peeps |
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| 14:42.22 | maia | ag`: I assume that function is called for all frames, right? If that works, I might ask for a way to only alter raid frames, but not party/self/target |
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| 14:42.52 | ag` | maia, just do "if self.type == "raid" then" |
| 14:42.58 | ag` | and then follow with your logic there |
| 14:43.03 | maia | okay |
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| 14:44.38 | ag` | maia, when I create the unit object it saves what type of unit it is self.type and what unit it is in self.unit |
| 14:44.38 | mjc | ag`: your UF's code is either hard to follow, or LUA is :p |
| 14:44.38 | mjc | woot for netsplits. |
| 14:44.38 | mjc | hey rabbit. |
| 14:44.39 | deci | who tripped over the cords! |
| 14:44.39 | ag` | mjc, if you haven't looked at lua yes |
| 14:44.39 | ag` | also you have to think in objects |
| 14:44.39 | ag` | so.. |
| 14:44.47 | mjc | ag`: I've done plenty of OO programming |
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| 14:45.22 | mjc | wb you losers |
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| 14:45.40 | ag` | mjc, ok sorry :) |
| 14:45.40 | mjc | ag`: it's ok :) |
| 14:45.40 | maia | ag`: seen my private message? or arent you registered? |
| 14:45.40 | ag` | I'm not registerd :P |
| 14:45.46 | mjc | ag`: I take it back. it's not *very* hard, just hard |
| 14:45.50 | maia | it errors on the line aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype:UpdateHealthOld = aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype:UpdateHealth |
| 14:46.00 | mjc | cause you suck :D |
| 14:46.01 | maia | function arguments expected near `=' |
| 14:46.06 | mjc | food be back soon :) |
| 14:46.17 | mjc | maia: UpdateHealthOld(xasdf) ? |
| 14:46.18 | ag` | maia, ok we need to find another way to hook it |
| 14:46.26 | maia | we? :) |
| 14:46.31 | ag` | me? :( |
| 14:47.09 | maia | well, I have no clue how to hook your OO code ;) |
| 14:47.27 | ag` | I'm taking a look at the AceHook apis now |
| 14:48.39 | vhaarr | self:Hook(aUF.classes.aUFunit, "UpdateHealth") |
| 14:48.54 | maia | ag`: oh, and if there's a way to change the border color, it would be great too. then I could alpha the units by health and range, and add a glowing border to the three units with the highest priority. |
| 14:49.17 | ag` | we can figure out that too |
| 14:49.29 | vhaarr | aUF_Banzai |
| 14:49.33 | ag` | currently the user sets the border color so we need to do some changes |
| 14:49.38 | vhaarr | you don't need any agUF changes to do that |
| 14:49.39 | ag` | but lets figure out how to hook first |
| 14:49.55 | vhaarr | maia: You don't need any agUF changes to do that. |
| 14:50.00 | vhaarr | maia: Take a look at aUF_Banzai. |
| 14:50.10 | ag` | vhaarr, where can I look at that btw? |
| 14:50.13 | vhaarr | svn |
| 14:51.20 | ag` | yes maia |
| 14:51.21 | ag` | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/aUF_Banzai/aUF_Banzai.lua |
| 14:51.27 | ag` | this shows you how to hook |
| 14:52.47 | Saroz | Banzai owns |
| 14:52.54 | ag` | who wrote aUF_banzai? |
| 14:53.00 | ag` | rabbit |
| 14:53.03 | vhaarr | I did |
| 14:53.08 | ag` | ok, here's a tip |
| 14:53.10 | XLVII | i don't know, but it's awesome. |
| 14:53.31 | ag` | if unitId ~= self.unit return end |
| 14:53.32 | ag` | ok? |
| 14:53.38 | ag` | do that in the start of the functions |
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| 14:54.00 | ag` | else your logic is called for all units all the time |
| 14:54.08 | ag` | instead of only for one unit |
| 14:54.10 | vhaarr | ag`: self.unit? |
| 14:54.22 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r13263 10Popsicle/ (Popsicle.lua Popsicle.toc libs/): Popsicle: More externals for function to come |
| 14:54.24 | vhaarr | It's supposed to be called for all units. |
| 14:54.38 | ag` | yes I know |
| 14:54.42 | ag` | but not on each event |
| 14:54.42 | MoonWolf | ~users |
| 14:54.49 | purl | so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony> |
| 14:54.49 | vhaarr | There's no self.unit. |
| 14:54.57 | MoonWolf | ~users |
| 14:54.58 | purl | so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony> |
| 14:55.07 | vhaarr | ag`: I don't understand. |
| 14:55.11 | ag` | ah wait |
| 14:55.53 | ag` | it's banzai that registers the events |
| 14:55.59 | vhaarr | What? |
| 14:56.01 | Mikma | nevcairiel: umh, some assclown has deleted the radiobuttons from BT2 Rows :( |
| 14:56.12 | ag` | I mean it's aUF_banzai that registers events, not unit objects |
| 14:56.18 | vhaarr | yes |
| 14:56.40 | vhaarr | Want me to do it on the unit object instead? |
| 14:56.47 | vhaarr | I guess that could work just fine. |
| 14:57.08 | ag` | maybe if I were you I would make the units themselves register events, because a unit object can have a different self.unit that it's name |
| 14:57.10 | ag` | if you understand |
| 14:57.24 | ag` | I could have a unit object named aUF.units.maintank1 |
| 14:57.36 | ag` | and it would have self.unit = raid4 |
| 14:57.37 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 14:57.40 | vhaarr | I'll do that |
| 14:57.56 | ag` | ok |
| 14:58.09 | ag` | you might have to hook the function that registers and unregisters functions though |
| 14:58.16 | vhaarr | but then I have to know when the unit table changes |
| 14:58.19 | vhaarr | how can I know |
| 14:58.38 | ag` | why do you need that? |
| 14:58.46 | vhaarr | so I can hook the events for the new units? |
| 14:58.54 | ag` | you don't need to |
| 14:59.00 | ag` | if you hook the super class |
| 14:59.03 | ag` | aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype |
| 14:59.14 | ag` | all units will be created from the changes made to that one |
| 14:59.18 | maia | ag`: I assume _G["aUF"..unitId.."_HealthBar"]:SetStatusBarColor(1, 0, 0) will change the color of the health bar. how do I change the border? |
| 14:59.18 | vhaarr | ah, so just register the event with the super class |
| 14:59.29 | vhaarr | maia: I wrote that, and the answer is yes. |
| 14:59.43 | maia | huh? |
| 14:59.47 | vhaarr | You asked ag. |
| 14:59.49 | vhaarr | But I wrote it. |
| 14:59.51 | maia | oh |
| 14:59.52 | ag` | vhaarr, yes |
| 14:59.55 | vhaarr | maia: Get tekProber. |
| 15:00.06 | vhaarr | maia: and inspect aUF, then you'll see the entire addon object. |
| 15:00.11 | ag` | maia, self.HealthBar:SetStatusBarColor(1, 0, 0) |
| 15:00.14 | maia | well, I assume ag knows the name of his frame elements by heart |
| 15:01.27 | ag` | let me explain if that confuses you |
| 15:02.53 | ag` | maia, auf_banzai hooks the wrong way, we need to hook the super class |
| 15:03.12 | ag` | so I need to find out how to do that correctly first |
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| 15:09.14 | mjc | wtf. |
| 15:09.14 | Gngsk | banana |
| 15:09.15 | yacoob | netsplit :) |
| 15:09.15 | ag` | it's doing funny stuff today |
| 15:09.15 | mjc | banana? |
| 15:09.15 | Thiana | Mikma: Umm.... ## Notes: Shows raidchat while in raid. -- O.o |
| 15:09.15 | Gngsk | split |
| 15:09.15 | mjc | heh |
| 15:09.15 | yacoob | Thiana, tricky, eh? :) |
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| 15:09.21 | Thiana | yacoob: Very ;) |
| 15:09.34 | Mikma | Thiana: and? :) |
| 15:09.44 | Thiana | *blink* |
| 15:09.44 | yacoob | it's very modular and flexible, you can also set it up to hide raidchat while not in raid. |
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| 15:10.32 | yacoob | more features, skinning support and plugins for all classes coming soon |
| 15:10.34 | mjc | how the fuck do I pay my comcast bill online :P |
| 15:10.34 | yacoob | Mikma, just out of curiosity, why don't you simply dock few windows in the same place, and just switch tabs? |
| 15:10.55 | Mikma | yacoob: because i am doing this addon :) |
| 15:11.27 | yacoob | you won't trick me! Then WHY do you do an addon for that? :) |
| 15:11.46 | Mikma | yacoob: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2505.0 |
| 15:12.06 | yacoob | aw, yes, I read it, I'm just proposing a different solution :) |
| 15:12.12 | yacoob | (yes, it's not EXACTLY the thing you want :) |
| 15:12.39 | Mikma | yacoob: no, i don't wan't it because i wan't my raidwindow to be in different place and only to show/hide depending on the status of UnitInRaid |
| 15:12.46 | yacoob | Mhm. |
| 15:12.56 | ag` | maia, try this: http://pastebin.ca/194100 |
| 15:13.11 | Mikma | So short and simple: If Player in Raid, ChatFrameX:Show() else ChatFrameX:Hide() ... |
| 15:13.15 | Mikma | EDIT: I forgot to mention that this could also be used ie. if player is in combat, and if player is in town.. |
| 15:14.22 | yacoob | Countless possibilities of extension. |
| 15:14.43 | yacoob | If Player has FrogDebuff, RibbitFrameX:Show() |
| 15:15.27 | Mikma | yacoob: aye, exactly what i had in mind. Seperated LFG/General/Trade in ChatFrameY and use Babble-Zone-2.0 to check for cities and show the frame if player in town. else hide |
| 15:16.08 | Mikma | the notes are not just for raid, since i'm first trying to do the UnitInRaid -check and adjustable ChatFrame number via slash |
| 15:16.27 | yacoob | Mikma, I think I want a variant of your addon. |
| 15:16.47 | yacoob | I made myself few chatframes, all docked in the same place |
| 15:16.51 | Mikma | yacoob: that's why I'm also making all the toggles to be adjusted on/off |
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| 15:17.30 | Mikma | yacoob: they will propable be easy to toggle too to dock or not |
| 15:17.30 | yacoob | Mikma, but what *I* would like to see is to change visible channels for a chatframe, upon events |
| 15:17.30 | yacoob | this would let me to: |
| 15:17.32 | Mikma | yacoob: doable. anything specific in mind? |
| 15:17.44 | yacoob | Mikma, yup, lemme present you an use-case :) |
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| 15:17.58 | Mikma | nooo |
| 15:17.58 | Mikma | tel me now |
| 15:18.17 | mjc | banana |
| 15:18.17 | Mikma | gorilla |
| 15:18.17 | mjc | Gngsk: ;) |
| 15:18.17 | yacoob | right away! |
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| 15:18.56 | yacoob | players enter the party -> chatframe1 starts to show only /p |
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| 15:19.18 | yacoob | players enter bg -> bg and /p |
| 15:19.18 | maia | ag`: hmm, even after adding ag_UnitFrames to the optional deps in the toc, I still get attempt to index global `aUF' (a nil value) |
| 15:19.31 | Mikma | yacoob: aye. on event chatchannel toggles |
| 15:19.37 | yacoob | basically, you specify the trigger (entering a specific zone, I'd say) and which channels to show |
| 15:19.52 | yacoob | right now I have few premade windows, which I switch between |
| 15:19.54 | Mikma | yacoob: i really had that in mind but i'm not 100% sure how to do it |
| 15:20.08 | yacoob | but this is not perfect, as some messages (notably, addon messages) are going ONLY to chatframe1 |
| 15:20.30 | Mikma | yacoob: but the point in this addon is that is WILL change raidchat and raidofficer and raidwarn into the specified window |
| 15:20.45 | Mikma | then it will show that specific window if player enters raid |
| 15:20.54 | mjc | kergoth`zzz: wake up :) |
| 15:20.54 | yacoob | and that's why I said my idea is a variant of yours :) |
| 15:21.14 | Mikma | yacoob: i think it should be a part of this |
| 15:21.15 | yacoob | Mikma, I don't want to have more than 2 visible chatframes, namely left chatframe, and right chatframe |
| 15:21.37 | yacoob | the right is single chatframe, with scl, the left are 5 chatframes, with various subsets of channels |
| 15:21.39 | Mikma | toggleable events and channels |
| 15:25.16 | CIA-17 | 03bhattu * r13265 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua: Chronometer: Fix typo that was giving timers on resists |
| 15:27.22 | yacoob | ah yes, people make me wonder... |
| 15:27.24 | yacoob | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showUI.pl?msgnum=825 |
| 15:27.29 | yacoob | agUF AND DUF? :) |
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| 15:28.30 | Mikma | for some reason i still like the idea of showing classicon instead of unitframe |
| 15:28.39 | Mikma | Kemayo: oh oh! <Mikma> for some reason i still like the idea of showing classicon instead of unitframe |
| 15:28.49 | Mikma | Kemayo: make classicon to show if portrait is not known |
| 15:29.23 | Ghent-- | Good morning all |
| 15:29.45 | Ghent-- | can someone take a peek at http://ace.pastey.net/1407 line 187 and tell me if syntax like that will work in LUA, please? :) |
| 15:30.00 | Mikma | yacoob: the minimap is neat on that picture |
| 15:30.45 | nevcairiel | Ghent--: should work |
| 15:31.02 | Ghent-- | kk |
| 15:31.16 | Mikma | nevcairiel: can you please fix the radiobuttons in rows? :) please? :D |
| 15:31.56 | Ghent-- | thanks nevcairiel |
| 15:33.35 | yacoob | Mikma, that also makes me wonder |
| 15:33.41 | yacoob | what people need portraits for? |
| 15:33.47 | yacoob | worse, I've seen whole 3d models... |
| 15:33.50 | Mikma | yacoob: i like seeing little faces |
| 15:34.09 | mjc | ArcHUD has 3d models :P |
| 15:34.15 | yacoob | smiling at you, sticking tongues... |
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| 15:34.27 | yacoob | ...I get the picture, the defence has no more questions :) |
| 15:34.45 | mjc | haha |
| 15:34.55 | mjc | no further questions, your honor |
| 15:35.03 | vhaarr | ag`: self.unit and self.name is nil in the prototype |
| 15:35.10 | yacoob | <-- too little tv apparently |
| 15:35.14 | vhaarr | ag`: There's something fuzzy going on. |
| 15:35.25 | yacoob | a furbolg? |
| 15:35.27 | vhaarr | ag`: I see you use self.unit and stuff, but when I try to use them they're nil. |
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| 15:35.46 | vhaarr | ag`: I got the correct |self| object, I iterated over it and printed the contents to check. |
| 15:35.55 | vhaarr | ag`: but there's no .unit |
| 15:37.19 | vhaarr | ag`: I registered the event with aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype |
| 15:37.34 | Mikma | neat. |
| 15:37.37 | Mikma | i like AceDB |
| 15:39.49 | mjc | Mikma: it likes you too |
| 15:40.13 | Ghent-- | this is so weird, something in my LUA doesn't work, but then when I type it in with /script it works |
| 15:40.33 | mjc | it hates you |
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| 15:41.24 | Ghent-- | it seems so :( |
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| 15:47.22 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13266 10Antagonist/ (Antagonist-locale.lua Antagonist.lua): |
| 15:47.22 | CIA-17 | Antagonist |
| 15:47.22 | CIA-17 | - Added barfade option |
| 15:47.22 | CIA-17 | - You can now set a title to 'nil' to hide it (/ant anchor anchor1 (or anchor2/3) title nil) |
| 15:47.38 | Sole | Ghent: Ive had frustrating crap like that happen before |
| 15:49.38 | Sole | most people are sleeping I take it |
| 15:50.01 | Gngsk | nope, everyone quit cuz of the announced TBC changes! |
| 15:50.53 | mjc | Sole: that's a branch eh |
| 15:51.48 | Sole | mjc: hmm? |
| 15:51.52 | mjc | antagonist |
| 15:51.59 | Sole | no its in trunk |
| 15:52.07 | yacoob | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1788226734163789045&q=big+blue+dress :D |
| 15:52.14 | yacoob | ah, antagonist aka hostel2 is out? :) |
| 15:52.20 | Sole | Gngsk: lol Im sure its for the better |
| 15:52.24 | Sole | yacoob: yea |
| 15:52.32 | Mikma | mm crap |
| 15:52.36 | mjc | oh I forgot to do //wowace/trunk/Antagonist instead of //wowace/Antagonist |
| 15:52.39 | mjc | doh :) |
| 15:52.42 | Sole | :P |
| 15:53.12 | Sole | I gotta say, the Trac changelog is purty |
| 15:53.24 | yacoob | Sole, how much alpha it is? :) |
| 15:54.34 | Sole | its more of a beta now |
| 15:54.38 | mjc | how much english it is? |
| 15:54.45 | Sole | lawl |
| 15:56.41 | Ghent-- | Sole, what did you do to fix it? :P |
| 15:56.45 | Mikma | i have a problem. anyone can figure how to do this: i have self.db.profile.RaidChatFrame = 4 .. i need to use ChatFrame (that value) :AddMessage("I'm here") |
| 15:57.39 | MoonWolf | _G["ChatFrame"..(thevar]: AddMessage |
| 15:57.51 | Mikma | MoonWolf: cool. appreciated! |
| 15:57.52 | yacoob | mjc, 0.8 in yacoob scale, I think :) |
| 15:58.27 | mjc | where yacoob 1.0 = no espeeka? |
| 15:59.00 | Mikma | neat it worked just fine :) |
| 15:59.25 | yacoob | mjc, doprawdy, nie rozumiem co w tym takiego niezrozumia³ego... :) |
| 15:59.30 | yacoob | that was 1.0 :) |
| 15:59.30 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r13267 10Popsicle/ (Popsicle.lua Popsicle.toc): Popsicle: Adding more stuff in, like AceDB and AceOptions |
| 15:59.39 | mjc | what in the |
| 15:59.40 | JoshBork1 | HOT DAMN! |
| 15:59.43 | JoshBork1 | I FOUND THE BUG! |
| 15:59.48 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Popsicle |
| 15:59.49 | JoshBork1 | in AceComm :-D |
| 15:59.50 | yacoob | squash it! |
| 16:00.08 | JoshBork1 | line 2093 of AceComm-2.0.lua: it has a9 repeated |
| 16:00.17 | Wobin | woohoo! |
| 16:00.19 | Wobin | Go Josh! |
| 16:00.32 | Wobin | now we can say it's been Borked! |
| 16:00.38 | yacoob | is it The Bug? |
| 16:00.49 | Sole | Ghent: wish I remembered |
| 16:01.06 | Ghent-- | http://ace.pastey.net/1408 line 187 |
| 16:01.09 | Ghent-- | it fails |
| 16:01.28 | Ghent-- | but if I do /script UseContainerItem(bag, slot) (with numbers) it works fine |
| 16:01.41 | Ghent-- | the debug shows it has the right info |
| 16:02.01 | JoshBork1 | hm, still bugging... |
| 16:02.08 | Industrial | heh line 187 ^^ |
| 16:02.14 | Sole | whats the error? |
| 16:02.57 | Thiana | Ummm... They cant be serious: Protected Functions |
| 16:02.57 | Thiana | * Addons and macro scripts may not use any movement, spell casting, or targeting functions. They also may not complete a trade transaction. |
| 16:03.14 | JoshBork1 | yes, they are serious |
| 16:03.16 | Ghent-- | Industrial, yeah :P |
| 16:03.24 | Ghent-- | Sole, no error |
| 16:03.29 | Thiana | Thats going to break more than half the addons out there. |
| 16:03.30 | Ghent-- | it just hits the "else" part of the loop |
| 16:05.51 | Sole | Ghent: only thing I can think of is UseContainerItem doesnt return true even if its sucessful |
| 16:05.56 | JoshBork1 | obvously i'm hooking wrong |
| 16:06.02 | JoshBork1 | oh wait |
| 16:06.02 | JoshBork1 | nvm |
| 16:06.22 | Sole | Thiana: yes they're serious |
| 16:06.26 | ag` | vhaarr, |
| 16:06.31 | ag` | let me see your code |
| 16:06.47 | Sole | I still havent digested the new changes but they seem to be of the apocalyptic kind for quite a lot of addons |
| 16:06.55 | Ghent-- | bleh |
| 16:07.00 | Ghent-- | Sole, I believe you're right |
| 16:07.03 | Thiana | Why dont they just remove lua from WoW if they're so intent on limiting it to the point that you cant sneeze because it's a protected function :/ |
| 16:07.21 | yacoob | Thiana, nooo, not again. Yes they're serious. Yes, the mods won't work. No, we don't know what one need to do to make them working again. Yes, we also think we shouldn't rant about it now. |
| 16:07.26 | vhaarr | ag`: My mouse just stopped working, I think I have to reboot. |
| 16:07.48 | Sole | lol Thiana you missed a very big conversation I think :P |
| 16:07.49 | ag` | vhaarr, ok. When you come back up please pastebin me your code. |
| 16:07.52 | vhaarr | ag`: I don't think you'll be able to fix it anyway. |
| 16:07.58 | Plorkyeran | Read the rest of the changes before you whine |
| 16:08.01 | ag` | let me check it out. |
| 16:08.03 | Plorkyeran | Very little is getting broken |
| 16:08.16 | Sole | Im not whining, even if it sounds like I am |
| 16:08.23 | vhaarr | ag`: Since I register the event with the prototype and add the method to the prototype, it just makes sense that it doesn't work. |
| 16:08.23 | ag` | vhaarr, anyway we need to figure out how to hook stuff... |
| 16:08.23 | Thiana | Sole: Apparently :( |
| 16:08.24 | Sole | the changes arent really affecting me |
| 16:08.28 | vhaarr | ag`: hook what? |
| 16:08.29 | Plorkyeran | And it's all things they've said they have wanted to nerf for a long time |
| 16:08.35 | ag` | vhaarr, sorry nm |
| 16:08.51 | ag` | vhaarr, why does it make sense that it wouldn't work? |
| 16:09.04 | vhaarr | because the event is fired to the prototype |
| 16:09.17 | ag` | let me check out your code :) |
| 16:09.21 | vhaarr | I have to register the even with every unit object |
| 16:09.25 | vhaarr | why? |
| 16:09.26 | ag` | no |
| 16:09.29 | vhaarr | no? |
| 16:09.38 | ag` | I'll take a look at it |
| 16:09.46 | vhaarr | I want to talk about it instead |
| 16:09.55 | Ghent-- | how silly is it to have a function that doesn't return whether it passed or failed :| |
| 16:10.17 | ag` | here's the deal |
| 16:10.43 | ag` | you hook aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype:RegisterEvents |
| 16:10.50 | ag` | and make it register your event |
| 16:10.54 | vhaarr | "it"? |
| 16:11.01 | vhaarr | self there is a reference to aUFBanzai |
| 16:11.05 | ag` | the function you hook |
| 16:11.09 | vhaarr | I need a reference to the unit object |
| 16:11.17 | ag` | no no wait and hear |
| 16:11.27 | ag` | you need to hook aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype:RegisterEvents |
| 16:11.40 | vhaarr | yes, and in that hook, where do I register the event? |
| 16:11.55 | ag` | in the hook you do self:RegisterEvent |
| 16:11.55 | vhaarr | self = aUFBanzai |
| 16:12.05 | JoshBork1 | k, i really did fix it... |
| 16:12.34 | ag` | It's because we need to figure out how to hook properly |
| 16:12.46 | vhaarr | the hook is proper |
| 16:12.54 | vhaarr | we just need a reference to the caller |
| 16:13.20 | ag` | if it was proper self:RegisterEvent would make the unit object register events |
| 16:13.21 | Ghent-- | side question, anyone happen to know if vim has a syntax highlight for LUA? |
| 16:13.38 | vhaarr | of course it does |
| 16:13.51 | ag` | ok, so it's fine then? |
| 16:13.59 | vhaarr | I was responding to Ghent-- |
| 16:14.04 | ag` | ah ok |
| 16:14.09 | Ghent-- | wonderful |
| 16:14.09 | vhaarr | ag`: We need a reference to the caller. |
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| 16:14.18 | Ghent-- | Thank you, vhaarr |
| 16:14.22 | ag` | vhaarr, take a look at the aguf code |
| 16:14.35 | ag` | inside the function aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype stuff |
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| 16:14.49 | ag` | self: refers to the unit objects themselves |
| 16:15.10 | vhaarr | yeah because when you create the objects you create new methods with the correct self reference |
| 16:15.12 | Iceroth | Sole, at least when using the "test" command with antagonist titles remain visible even though i removed them from the config |
| 16:15.16 | ag` | vhaarr, yes |
| 16:15.20 | vhaarr | ag`: but this happens on the prototype |
| 16:15.22 | Saroz | Slouken: " the designers no longer have to account for decursive-style addons in their dungeon design, which was one of the biggest driving factors for these changes." |
| 16:15.35 | vhaarr | so self is the prototype |
| 16:15.37 | Sole | Iceroth: do you mean you did /ant anchor anchor1 nil and the titles still show? |
| 16:15.57 | ag` | vhaarr, if you replace self with the prototype it will error |
| 16:16.02 | Iceroth | set them to empty strings from deucecommander conf |
| 16:16.06 | vhaarr | ag`: what? |
| 16:16.19 | ag` | I don't think we'll make sense out of this chat =) |
| 16:16.27 | vhaarr | I'm making perfect sense. |
| 16:16.29 | Sole | Iceroth: set them to 'nil' if youre using the latest revision |
| 16:16.32 | ag` | I'm not |
| 16:16.36 | vhaarr | no, you're not |
| 16:16.55 | Mikma | does some event get fired when you join and leave raid? |
| 16:16.58 | vhaarr | Like I said, we need a reference to the caller in the hook. |
| 16:17.05 | vhaarr | I have no idea if AceHook provides that or not. |
| 16:17.06 | Iceroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.06 | Sole | Iceroth: or actually if youre using hte latest revision it shouldnt matter, theoretically empty strings should work too...I just dont use deuce commander |
| 16:17.14 | Sole | yes |
| 16:17.22 | Iceroth | still shows at least with the test command |
| 16:17.22 | Sole | use /ant instead of /antagonist though :P |
| 16:17.31 | Sole | Iceroth: update then |
| 16:17.35 | ag` | vhaarr, I don't really know what we need, I need to sit down with a copy of wow and figure out how I hook stuff |
| 16:17.43 | Sole | I commited a new revisions like 10 min ago |
| 16:17.58 | Sole | revision* |
| 16:17.59 | JoshBork1 | svn: CHECKOUT of '/wowace/!svn/ver/11842/trunk/Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua': 403 Forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com)Z |
| 16:18.00 | vhaarr | ag`: The caller would be the unit object. |
| 16:18.01 | Iceroth | meh, and i took this 15mins ago :P |
| 16:18.04 | vhaarr | ag`: Does it make sense then? |
| 16:18.06 | JoshBork1 | what's that mean? forbidden? |
| 16:18.11 | JoshBork1 | what'd i do wrong? :-( |
| 16:18.16 | Iceroth | lol, it shows now "nil" in the bar :P |
| 16:18.17 | ag` | vhaarr, not sure what you mean by caller |
| 16:18.18 | Sole | is it 13266? |
| 16:18.22 | Iceroth | empty strings work |
| 16:18.32 | vhaarr | ag`: The object who tried to call the original RegisterEvents function. |
| 16:18.35 | vhaarr | Is the caller. |
| 16:18.40 | Iceroth | i had the older version |
| 16:19.06 | ag` | vhaarr, if we do changes to the prototype |
| 16:19.24 | ag` | all units will pick up the changes |
| 16:19.29 | Iceroth | ok, works now |
| 16:19.36 | vhaarr | ag`: that's .. not the problem . |
| 16:20.04 | ag` | you said that you were having trouble that self.unit was nil |
| 16:20.14 | vhaarr | yes, because |self| is the prototype |
| 16:20.15 | Sole | hmm |
| 16:20.25 | vhaarr | ag`: What is it that is unclear? |
| 16:20.32 | Sole | so doing self.candy:SetHeight(id, 20) errors apprantly SetHeight is a nil method |
| 16:20.32 | ag` | yeah, and that's why I'd like to see the code |
| 16:20.32 | vhaarr | I'll try to explain. |
| 16:20.36 | ag` | so I can tinker with it |
| 16:20.45 | Sole | chronometer does the exact same and it works..I just checked |
| 16:21.19 | Sole | any ideas? |
| 16:22.43 | vhaarr | ag`: the code is like 10 lines |
| 16:22.48 | ag` | yes |
| 16:22.50 | vhaarr | ag`: I've already explained why it doesn't work |
| 16:22.57 | vhaarr | I'll paste you the code then |
| 16:22.58 | ag` | I want to see it please please please please |
| 16:23.01 | ag` | :P |
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| 16:24.03 | vhaarr | ag`: pm |
| 16:24.07 | vhaarr | I'll brb 30min |
| 16:24.28 | Sole | damn looks like Im alone in my problem :( |
| 16:24.34 | Worf | hmm... what could squishy do that does break the chat frame menues? |
| 16:25.15 | JoshBork1 | Worf: it's an AceComm bug |
| 16:25.37 | Worf | JoshBork1: ah... k... |
| 16:25.52 | Worf | JoshBork1: will it go away if i put the latest AceComm in? :) |
| 16:26.48 | JoshBork1 | no |
| 16:26.52 | JoshBork1 | i'm trying to figure out how to commit :_ |
| 16:26.54 | JoshBork1 | :-) |
| 16:26.56 | JoshBork1 | and i can fix it |
| 16:27.00 | Worf | ah... |
| 16:27.26 | Worf | i try to find out how to commit myself, but i either lost my password or i don't have a active svn account right now |
| 16:27.36 | Worf | fixed 2 bugs in my addons today |
| 16:28.36 | Sole | arg wtf |
| 16:28.40 | Sole | self.candy:SetHeight(id, self.db.profile.barheight) |
| 16:28.44 | JoshBork1 | seriously, why can't i commit? |
| 16:29.00 | Worf | JoshBork1: where do you try to commit? we have a new svn server... |
| 16:29.11 | JoshBork1 | dev.wowace.com |
| 16:29.21 | Sole | gives the error: attempt to call method 'SetHeight" (a nil value) |
| 16:29.23 | JoshBork1 | i get 403 Forbidden |
| 16:29.26 | Worf | ok, so that you know... |
| 16:29.32 | Worf | well - i can't eaven log in |
| 16:29.51 | Worf | to check out my own addons :) |
| 16:30.40 | JoshBork1 | someone make the commit i just posted about on the Ace 2.0 thread |
| 16:34.01 | JoshBork1 | Tem! |
| 16:34.18 | JoshBork1 | tell me why i can't commit :-( |
| 16:34.28 | Tem | to Ace2? |
| 16:34.36 | JoshBork1 | yea |
| 16:34.39 | Tem | clad may have locked that folder to just devs |
| 16:34.49 | JoshBork1 | you want to commit for me then? ^_^ |
| 16:35.11 | Tem | lemme read your changes first =P |
| 16:36.01 | Tem | send me your file |
| 16:36.06 | JoshBork1 | ok |
| 16:36.06 | Worf | i can confirm that the squishy error now is gone away after changing a9,a9 to a9 ( 4 changes done ) |
| 16:36.26 | JoshBork1 | Tem: can i tell you the lines to change? |
| 16:36.37 | Tem | just email me the file |
| 16:36.39 | JoshBork1 | ok |
| 16:36.48 | JoshBork1 | what's the address? |
| 16:36.50 | Tem | Tem is not fully awake yet |
| 16:37.39 | Worf | anybody but clad who has access to the svn accounts? |
| 16:37.44 | Mikma | rawr |
| 16:38.54 | SH|Shabador | Worf, cool. Thanks for that info. :) Channels finally working again |
| 16:39.18 | Worf | SH|Shabador: thank JoshBork1 |
| 16:40.39 | yacoob | as much as cliche it is, it's also a well done video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1760682409705123685 |
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| 16:40.54 | JoshBork1 | :-D |
| 16:40.55 | JoshBork1 | if i'm gonna use AceComm, it better be working |
| 16:42.42 | Tem | *sigh* |
| 16:43.10 | JoshBork1 | purl, hug tem |
| 16:43.19 | purl | ACTION hugs tem |
| 16:43.25 | JoshBork1 | oh yea tem, i sent it, lol |
| 16:43.27 | Tem | JoshBork1, either email or your editor turned all the tabs into spaces |
| 16:43.33 | JoshBork1 | ew |
| 16:43.35 | JoshBork1 | :-( |
| 16:43.36 | Tem | s/email/gmail/ |
| 16:43.45 | JoshBork1 | hold on, i'll host the file |
| 16:43.48 | Tem | the right number of spaces, mind you |
| 16:44.05 | CIA-17 | 03flyflame * r13268 10BigWigs/BWL/ (5 files): BigWigs: update BWL zhCN localization |
| 16:44.38 | Sole | Tem: any idea why self.candy:SetHeight(id, self.db.profile.barheight) gives the error: attempt to call method 'SetHeight' (a nil value) |
| 16:44.39 | maia | guys, if you're a healer, please comment on http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2525.0 as I'm tinkering with a micro-unitframe addon to replace Squishy in BC |
| 16:44.47 | haste | I've never seen the armor dude fully red, untill today |
| 16:45.00 | JoshBork1 | http://joshborke.is-a-geek.com/WoW/AceComm-2.0.lua should work |
| 16:45.01 | Tem | Sole, sounds like a candybar bug to me |
| 16:45.10 | haste | s/ll/l/ |
| 16:45.20 | Sole | Tem: thing is, Chronometer does the exact same and it seems to work |
| 16:45.37 | Tem | Harass [Ammo] |
| 16:45.47 | Worf | maia: are you not happy with squishy? |
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| 16:46.02 | maia | Worf: Squishy is dead in BC, as all emergency monitors are. |
| 16:46.19 | Worf | maia: ah... |
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| 16:46.59 | Sole | Tem: lol will try to |
| 16:47.01 | Worf | maia: well, unless i know exactely what will be possible and what not, i won't change my addons. |
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| 16:47.09 | Sole | maia: Grid looks interesting |
| 16:47.11 | FISKER_Q | ouch |
| 16:47.17 | CIA-17 | 03tardmrr * r13269 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: AceComm-2.0: Fixed odd a9 issue. |
| 16:47.25 | Worf | maia: right now i'm in the "stop playing wow once BC comes" - mood |
| 16:47.37 | maia | Worf: me too. but I want options. |
| 16:47.38 | FISKER_Q | can anyone ask slouken on US forums if it's then possible to make MA's target persist through death or something? |
| 16:47.49 | FISKER_Q | Yes. You won't be able to switch main tanks after the battle is joined, but you can absolutely do this. O_o |
| 16:47.51 | Cartas | You should be in the: "BS is coming soon so I'll farm lots of money now." mood! |
| 16:47.54 | JoshBork1 | maia: isn't it more: you won't be able to use squishy completely effectively? |
| 16:47.55 | maia | I want to be sure I cant play BC before quitting, so I'm testing alternatives before BC |
| 16:47.56 | Cartas | BC*! :O |
| 16:48.13 | JoshBork1 | squishy will still work. you just can't click on it or use the information programatically |
| 16:48.19 | maia | JoshBork1: I wont be able to click-target any unit in the Squishy frame in BC. it will be "info only" |
| 16:48.30 | JoshBork1 | exactly. |
| 16:48.32 | maia | I consider this useless. |
| 16:48.47 | yacoob | Ahem. |
| 16:48.49 | yacoob | DON'T PANIC. |
| 16:48.55 | yacoob | It's not even set in stone yet. |
| 16:49.00 | JoshBork1 | bye all |
| 16:49.03 | JoshBork1 | thanks Tem |
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| 16:49.13 | Worf | maia: well... do we know if SpellCanTargetUnit(unit) does work? and if not, what options we do have? |
| 16:49.26 | maia | no idea |
| 16:50.21 | Industrial | BC, BS! |
| 16:50.25 | Industrial | =P |
| 16:50.29 | yacoob | maia, instead of panicking, you should head to official forums and put your concerns there. At least there's a (slight) chance that someone will notice that, and reconsider some things |
| 16:50.55 | Worf | we don't have access to official forums |
| 16:51.00 | maia | yacoob: I'm in touch with blizzard devs via email. I wont further comment on that though. |
| 16:51.11 | yacoob | ok |
| 16:51.12 | Worf | the eu forums are ignored so far i can tell |
| 16:51.23 | yacoob | maia, would you like comments about grid here or on the forum? |
| 16:51.37 | maia | yacoob: in the forums please, I'm about to log. |
| 16:51.47 | yacoob | will do |
| 16:52.05 | FISKER_Q | hey yacoob |
| 16:52.32 | yacoob | FISKER_Q :) |
| 16:52.33 | FISKER_Q | will you ask slouken for me that if you can make the Mainassists be able to target when dead? |
| 16:52.55 | FISKER_Q | Cause if it's true you can't reassign maintanks during combat that would suck when the MA dies |
| 16:53.05 | yacoob | I could do that, but why not asking him himself? |
| 16:53.12 | FISKER_Q | EU guy :( |
| 16:53.13 | yacoob | (I believe our capabilities in that area are quite similar :) |
| 16:53.19 | yacoob | I'm also EU. |
| 16:53.22 | FISKER_Q | oh |
| 16:53.29 | FISKER_Q | thought maia told you to post :) |
| 16:53.35 | FISKER_Q | well we got 0wned then |
| 16:53.41 | yacoob | FISKER_Q, yes, my comments about Grid :) |
| 16:53.46 | FISKER_Q | We need a relay station |
| 16:53.51 | FISKER_Q | ah |
| 16:54.52 | Worf | well - i still have one option left: stop playing my druid and priest, and stick with my hunter. But since i can't change targets all my pet control shortcuts will be broken without a chance of reparing it... hmm... |
| 16:54.58 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r13270 10FuBar_DebuggerFu/ (6 files): |
| 16:55.13 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_DebuggerFu |
| 16:55.56 | yacoob | Worf, FISKER_Q: stop panicking. |
| 16:56.02 | Iceroth | hmm... the action bar change also means that all contextual action bars are going to be broken? |
| 16:56.08 | yacoob | There'll be time for it once we actually see it. |
| 16:56.19 | yacoob | Iceroth, why would it? |
| 16:56.36 | Iceroth | wasn't tempering with action bars disabled in combat? |
| 16:56.41 | Worf | yacoob: yeah. you're right... |
| 16:56.55 | vhaarr | Could someone finally kill schelli? |
| 16:57.06 | yacoob | I don't like maia's behaviour, I know where it comes from, but right now it's so pointless, that she's only stressing herself. |
| 16:57.52 | Iceroth | i too would be frustrated if my addon would stop working without any apparent reason just because devs feel like it |
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| 16:58.33 | Worf | yacoob: well, on the other hand, i'm quite pissed myself because i did a nice addon which is in now way against what blizzard likes to see, but side effects of the patch changes made the stuff impossible |
| 16:58.56 | FISKER_Q | not because i'm paniccing, infact i'm not that negative about the changes as almost none affect me |
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| 16:59.10 | yacoob | Iceroth, Worf: but there's nothing we can do, except looking for another way, or trying to talk them to their senses. |
| 16:59.19 | Worf | yacoob: for example: i had a shortcut for shift-klicking a unit. then the mouse klick stopped being hookable... |
| 16:59.26 | Worf | yeah.. |
| 16:59.32 | Worf | well |
| 16:59.35 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r13271 10FuBar_DebuggerFu/: addded externals |
| 16:59.37 | yacoob | Worf, really. As long as the frame was not generated dynamically it WILL work. |
| 16:59.43 | yacoob | That's FUD in action :((( |
| 16:59.50 | Worf | if i had a way to to talk to them... |
| 17:00.28 | yacoob | from word to word, tomorrow I'll hear that Blizz developers are planning protection against writting mods at all, that would include orbital laser strike on each pc that logs in with mods enabled. |
| 17:00.41 | yacoob | Worf, read. The. Changes. Carefully. |
| 17:00.52 | Worf | yeah... |
| 17:01.02 | yacoob | And acknowledge this important thing: This is not yet solid. |
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| 17:02.41 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13272 10Antagonist/ (Antagonist-locale.lua Antagonist.lua): |
| 17:02.41 | CIA-17 | Antagonist |
| 17:02.41 | CIA-17 | - added height + width options |
| 17:02.41 | CIA-17 | - added /ant stop to stop all bars and hide all titles |
| 17:03.06 | Tuller | Iceroth: there's a stance button type listed in the templates given by slouken. No idea how it works at this point. |
| 17:04.32 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13273 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist - Hopefully fixed bug with titles persisting through death |
| 17:04.45 | Wobin | woot |
| 17:04.51 | Wobin | I got the Cruel Hand of Timmy |
| 17:04.55 | Ghent-- | Anyone know if you're not allowed to use UseContainerItem() in an AddOn? I simply can not figure out why it works from /script but not from the addon itself |
| 17:05.54 | yacoob | poor Timmy :( |
| 17:06.00 | CIA-17 | 03devla 07Kemayo * r13274 10ag_UnitFrames/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:06.00 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames: Kemayo portrait branch |
| 17:06.00 | CIA-17 | Merged/added changes from Trunk v13254 |
| 17:07.31 | Sole | Ghent: When you use it from script you execute the actual function but in your lua you chuck it into an if statement |
| 17:07.36 | Sole | Ghent: probably the reason |
| 17:08.16 | ag` | vhaarr, |
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| 17:08.28 | vhaarr | that's me |
| 17:08.37 | ag` | I think it's the first argument you pass |
| 17:08.45 | lacindas | mornin all |
| 17:08.56 | ag` | "self" |
| 17:09.11 | vhaarr | I'm not passing self |
| 17:09.14 | vhaarr | AceHook is |
| 17:09.30 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13275 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist - titles set to 'nil' should no longer show as "Nil" on a game reload/restart |
| 17:09.31 | ag` | http://pastebin.ca/194158 |
| 17:09.45 | vhaarr | Why post it here? |
| 17:09.49 | vhaarr | I posted it in PM. |
| 17:09.54 | ag` | function aUF.classes.aUFunit.prototype.Banzai_UnitGainedAggro(unitId, unitTable) |
| 17:09.57 | ag` | do that instead |
| 17:10.01 | ag` | because i am not registered |
| 17:10.04 | vhaarr | Can you try it yourself? |
| 17:10.06 | ag` | I can't post in pms. |
| 17:10.15 | vhaarr | It doesn't work. |
| 17:10.43 | ag` | why wouldn't that work? that's how I create functions in ag_UnitClass.lua |
| 17:12.05 | Ghent-- | Sole, it reacts the same either way |
| 17:14.01 | Sole | Ghent: then it is a weird bug which will probably have a simple fix but will take forever to figure out - welcome to programming =[ |
| 17:14.37 | vhaarr | ag`: Maybe you should register then. |
| 17:14.50 | ag` | maybe, but is it a problem? |
| 17:14.57 | vhaarr | ag`: I don't like pasting stuff like that here, there are too many users around. |
| 17:15.30 | ag` | Hmm.. oh.. But it's not like it contains sensitive data.. Oh well, I am not to argue that |
| 17:15.44 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r13276 10Popsicle/Popsicle.lua: Popsicle: Raidcheck chatfeature complete |
| 17:15.45 | ag` | I'll see if I can get registered |
| 17:15.46 | vhaarr | I know, I just don't like it. |
| 17:15.53 | ag` | It's ok |
| 17:15.54 | vhaarr | I'd prefer a developer only channel. |
| 17:16.05 | vhaarr | And developers who care about users could be in a developer+users channel. |
| 17:16.07 | Mikma | now, i need to know how to move the chats by code to another window :) |
| 17:16.07 | vhaarr | I wouldn't be there. |
| 17:16.14 | Mikma | but it's raidtime soon anyway |
| 17:16.59 | ag` | vhaarr, I will be able to trial+error test things soon |
| 17:17.05 | ag` | and find out what to do |
| 17:17.12 | ag` | I just need access to my wow |
| 17:17.13 | vhaarr | There's nothing to do. |
| 17:17.18 | vhaarr | We need a reference to the caller. |
| 17:17.33 | ag` | I would just have to talk to kergoth`zzz |
| 17:17.47 | vhaarr | I'm waiting for someone who knows to come online, yes. |
| 17:17.54 | vhaarr | There should be some magic lua thing like __caller or whatever. |
| 17:20.29 | Ghent-- | Sole, it doesn't make sense that it's a weird bug |
| 17:20.56 | Ghent-- | unless my understanding of the interface is incorrect, me using /script and the the addon itself should react in the same manner |
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| 17:24.10 | Azurewrath | Sole: typo at line 676 in Antagonist.lua |
| 17:25.23 | Sole | thanks azure |
| 17:25.37 | Wobin | vhaarr: what's the issue? |
| 17:26.15 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13277 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist - fixed small typo (stopped the addon from loading :p) |
| 17:26.18 | vhaarr | Wobin: I'm hooking a prototype method on a AceOO class and want to know what instance of the class called the hooked method in the hook. |
| 17:26.38 | Sole | Ghent: I cant see why its being so strange, to me it looks like it should all work fine :( |
| 17:27.07 | Wobin | can you use tostring in the prototype to identify it somehow? |
| 17:27.14 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.16 | vhaarr | To identify what? |
| 17:27.18 | vhaarr | self? |
| 17:27.33 | Wobin | well the instance |
| 17:27.42 | vhaarr | I don't have a referance to the instance. |
| 17:27.46 | vhaarr | That's what I need. |
| 17:28.17 | vhaarr | So, basically, I need to know the object that called the original hooked method. |
| 17:28.23 | vhaarr | Which would be the instance. |
| 17:31.36 | Wobin | hm |
| 17:31.42 | Wobin | so some way to trace the hook tree? |
| 17:32.40 | navv | so, has anyone read this slouken's ui thread, and understood the "addons cant use targeting functions" and later on slouken says that you can mouseclick on a "mt frame target" to target the mob |
| 17:34.33 | Mikma | christ. seems like i need to split up RaidChat and PartyChat |
| 17:34.36 | Mikma | that sucks. |
| 17:35.19 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r13278 10Popsicle/Popsicle.lua: Popsicle: Made a function to show/hide the Chats |
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| 17:40.52 | [POW]Arjor | guy does anyone else has problems with detox. it doesn't remove debuffs sometimes |
| 17:45.27 | navv | ah nm, i finally understood :) |
| 17:47.58 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r13279 10FuBar_TrackerFu/TrackerFuLocals.lua: TrackerFuLocals.lua : minor cleanup of unused vars |
| 17:48.27 | vhaarr | ~whalecrush schelli |
| 17:49.25 | Machine_ | have they published the rumored ui changes now? |
| 17:49.33 | navv | well slouken has a ton of |
| 17:49.36 | navv | info on this one thread |
| 17:51.47 | yacoob | navv, I think I do |
| 17:51.59 | navv | yeah i finally understood whats the thing |
| 17:52.06 | yacoob | navv, from what I gathered, it looks like you won't be able to attach any action to dynamically generated frames |
| 17:52.14 | yacoob | (generated during combat) |
| 17:52.18 | navv | yea |
| 17:52.24 | yacoob | so if you pregenerate, and assign, stuff will work |
| 17:52.52 | navv | well i was confused about the addosn cant use targeting functions |
| 17:53.01 | yacoob | look for maia's draft of Grid, alternative healing monitor :) |
| 17:53.01 | navv | but i bet frame's OnClick can |
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| 17:56.06 | Machine_ | meh, changes to pvp balance and now changes to the ui makes me want to shelf wow until a few months after the expansion |
| 17:59.50 | yacoob | I fail to see logic behind that |
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| 18:03.32 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=6447 |
| 18:03.52 | Cairenn | there's the lump sum announcement |
| 18:04.23 | yacoob | Cairenn, the logic behind Machine's plan, not behind Blizz's actions :) |
| 18:04.30 | dreyruugr | Hehe |
| 18:05.20 | Machine_ | well removing the ability to cast spells from addons will make my main unplayable to me |
| 18:05.25 | Machine_ | to it's a big deal to me personally |
| 18:06.04 | Cairenn | they aren't though, that's the thing |
| 18:06.18 | Machine_ | and because of the unknowns on pvp balance in tbc i dont want to start leveling an alt yet (altho i have) |
| 18:06.34 | navv | well i agree, playing with high latency and fastcast making away is a bit bore |
| 18:06.37 | Machine_ | "Addons and macro scripts may not use any movement, spell casting, or targeting functions. They also may not complete a trade transaction." |
| 18:06.45 | lacindas | stupid question, if you write an addon to create buttons to cast spells on click, is that now impossible? |
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| 18:06.55 | Cairenn | read the entire post |
| 18:06.57 | nevcairiel | everybody talks about how unplayable it will be, but noone knows anythign at all how it will really be. |
| 18:07.05 | lacindas | true Nev |
| 18:07.10 | navv | well the thread explains pretty well how it is |
| 18:07.24 | lacindas | im just wondering if i should shelve the addons im working on or not lol |
| 18:07.26 | nevcairiel | the thread also explains that most of the stuff is still a work in progress |
| 18:07.51 | navv | but cant blame them for wanting to get rid of decursive |
| 18:08.07 | navv | or well, decursive type of addons, lets say rather |
| 18:08.16 | Machine_ | i have no beef with that |
| 18:08.23 | navv | yeah, me neither |
| 18:08.54 | Machine_ | if that means that they dont design encounters that would "require" that kind of functionality for sane gameplay for healers/dispellers |
| 18:09.16 | navv | .well slouken as much said so in the thread |
| 18:09.20 | Wobin | wow |
| 18:09.26 | Wobin | that's such a cool questline |
| 18:09.30 | Wobin | Of Love and Family |
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| 18:11.29 | Machine_ | looks like custom unit frames will still be possible, yum |
| 18:11.37 | navv | yes |
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| 18:16.30 | Machine_ | i dont get this secure template thingy tho |
| 18:18.21 | Machine_ | oh you'll be able to override the xml part and still be considered secure |
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| 18:23.42 | ag` | Wobin, hooking a class method doesn't work for me |
| 18:24.01 | ag` | anything you have some understanding of? |
| 18:24.21 | ag` | not sure you're the right to ask but I saw vharr asking you before so I figured |
| 18:26.23 | Wobin | cause you're hooking the instance of the object, aren't you? |
| 18:26.35 | Wobin | have you instantiated the object? |
| 18:26.47 | Wobin | and hooked that? |
| 18:26.59 | ag` | I am trying to hook the super class |
| 18:27.07 | ag` | or the prototype |
| 18:27.10 | ag` | whatever it is called |
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| 18:27.29 | Wobin | The prototype is just the template from which the object is created |
| 18:27.33 | Wobin | it does nothing |
| 18:27.50 | ag` | so after they are created from it, you can't change anything in it? |
| 18:27.56 | Wobin | not so |
| 18:27.58 | mjc | wrong |
| 18:28.04 | mjc | you have to change it after it's created |
| 18:28.06 | Wobin | you can change anything in an object |
| 18:28.12 | ag` | yes I know |
| 18:28.13 | Wobin | after all, it's just a table |
| 18:28.29 | ag` | but I want to know if I change something in a prototype if it changes for all objects created from that prototype |
| 18:28.37 | mjc | you can't |
| 18:28.46 | Wobin | only if you make the change before instantiation |
| 18:28.54 | Wobin | I don't believe changes propogate |
| 18:28.56 | Wobin | or maybe they do |
| 18:29.07 | Wobin | if you change the common metatable, it will make the changes I guess |
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| 18:29.15 | Wobin | but how you access that in AceOO, I'm not sure |
| 18:29.32 | Wobin | meh, the prototype is probably the metatable |
| 18:29.56 | ag` | hm, according to my tests that is not true |
| 18:30.20 | ag` | if I nil some of the methods in the prototype they stop working for objects created from that prototype |
| 18:30.37 | ag` | so the changes does affect all objects created from the class |
| 18:30.40 | Wobin | ie, the prototype is probably the metatable |
| 18:30.45 | Wobin | Like I said =P |
| 18:30.48 | ag` | yes |
| 18:30.49 | ag` | now |
| 18:31.04 | ag` | so hooking the prototype method |
| 18:31.06 | ag` | s |
| 18:31.09 | ag` | how do I do that |
| 18:31.32 | ag` | addon.class.prototype.method |
| 18:31.37 | ag` | lets say I want to hook that |
| 18:32.02 | Wobin | self:Hook(addon.class.prototype, "method" |
| 18:32.06 | Wobin | ) doesn't work? |
| 18:32.33 | ag` | but self, where should I call that |
| 18:32.47 | Wobin | self gets passed, doesn't it? |
| 18:33.10 | mjc | self gets piss drunk |
| 18:33.48 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r13280 10Popsicle/Popsicle.lua: Popsicle: added chatchannel mod in |
| 18:33.51 | ag` | where does it call to "method" ? |
| 18:33.59 | mjc | what's popsicle |
| 18:34.29 | Mikma | !notes Popsicle |
| 18:34.29 | SVNBot | Popsicle Notes: Shows raidchat while in raid. || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Popsicle |
| 18:34.34 | mjc | ah. |
| 18:34.45 | mjc | kinda nondescript |
| 18:34.50 | Mikma | i know |
| 18:35.03 | Wobin | self:Hook(addon.class.prototype, "method", function(self, object) self.hooks[object]["method"](object) end)? |
| 18:35.21 | Wobin | hm |
| 18:35.23 | Wobin | I don't know |
| 18:35.40 | Wobin | since it's calling from the metatable, you can't really hook it |
| 18:35.47 | Wobin | back anyway |
| 18:36.13 | Wobin | or if they redefine the method in the object... |
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| 18:36.29 | Wobin | (so it doesn't call the prototype) |
| 18:36.35 | Mikma | hmm i have a problem with the chatmod :P |
| 18:36.37 | Wobin | then you can't affect it |
| 18:36.41 | Mikma | the settings for chats don't save |
| 18:36.45 | Wobin | not -from- the prototype |
| 18:37.15 | Wobin | Something to ask ckknight I suspect |
| 18:37.26 | Machine_ | beer |
| 18:37.32 | Wobin | as it's really really late for me |
| 18:37.37 | Wobin | and I must go to bed |
| 18:37.41 | Wobin | damn near 5am |
| 18:37.41 | ag` | wobin sorry I'll be right back |
| 18:37.43 | ag` | ah damn |
| 18:37.50 | Wobin | ask ck =) |
| 18:38.39 | ag` | he's away or someth |
| 18:38.58 | mjc | smth |
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| 18:39.05 | vhaarr | ag`: What are you hooking? |
| 18:39.18 | vhaarr | I thought my aUF_Banzai code already gave you the examples you needed. |
| 18:39.24 | mjc | you on the clothesline |
| 18:39.34 | vhaarr | The questions you ask wobin here are answered by that code, I think. |
| 18:39.44 | PProvost | Mikma, I'm gonna pull out the Dreamlayout specific code in Pagemaster. |
| 18:39.58 | Mikma | PProvost: be my guest :) |
| 18:40.02 | PProvost | Either Dreamlayout gets updated to work like Circles or not. I don't care. |
| 18:40.16 | mjc | dreamlayout blows anyways |
| 18:40.47 | PProvost | Hokay |
| 18:40.54 | Mikma | i need to find a way of adding some channels to windows with code :O |
| 18:41.02 | PProvost | Someone should integrate the style of buttons from dreamlayout with the code structure of circles |
| 18:41.26 | mjc | s/someone/PProvost / |
| 18:41.33 | PProvost | lol |
| 18:41.37 | PProvost | I don't use Dreamlayout. |
| 18:41.37 | lacindas | lol |
| 18:41.43 | mjc | neither do I |
| 18:41.44 | PProvost | So, ~PProvost |
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| 18:42.16 | ag` | vhaarr, I am trying to hook a function in a class prototype |
| 18:42.28 | vhaarr | ag`: auf_banzai does that. |
| 18:42.42 | Mikma | PProvost: to be honest i don't care about dreamlayout either ;) |
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| 18:43.00 | vhaarr | or hm, not the code I pasted |
| 18:43.04 | PProvost | Done. Committing now. |
| 18:43.10 | CIA-17 | 03pprovost * r13281 10Bartender2_Pagemaster/Pagemaster.lua: Bartender2_Pagemaster: Removed special-case Dreamlayout code. The bug is in dreamlayout and not in Pagemaster. |
| 18:43.11 | vhaarr | ag`: the version in svn does it |
| 18:44.11 | mjc | PProvost: pagemaster ticks me off too. not easy to understand |
| 18:44.14 | ag` | vhaarr, you made it work....? |
| 18:44.32 | vhaarr | no, we still need a reference to the instance |
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| 18:44.45 | ag` | vhaarr, ok, that's what I am trying to figure out. |
| 18:44.49 | vhaarr | aha |
| 18:44.56 | PProvost | mjc, yeah it is a little odd. |
| 18:45.09 | vhaarr | ag`: you'll need AceHook or lua magic then |
| 18:45.15 | vhaarr | ag`: I'm waiting for ckk so I can ask him. |
| 18:45.16 | ag` | yes |
| 18:45.16 | PProvost | Mikma and I have talked about it. I need to get a few of you together for a design chat about what it should be like. |
| 18:45.26 | ag` | I am just trying to figure out how to do it |
| 18:45.32 | PProvost | I use it the way it is out of the box, so it works great for me. |
| 18:46.14 | mjc | yay! the best female juggler in the world wants to be friends with me now :) |
| 18:46.25 | mjc | too bad she's young as hell. |
| 18:47.06 | PProvost | best in the world? |
| 18:47.09 | mjc | yep. |
| 18:47.18 | mjc | link coming up |
| 18:47.25 | mjc | http://www.galchenko.com/ |
| 18:48.17 | mjc | taught by one of my friends |
| 18:49.01 | PProvost | You a juggler too? |
| 18:49.15 | mjc | used to, til I injured my hand. |
| 18:49.19 | mjc | working on it now |
| 18:49.47 | Machine_ | i juggle my balls on occasion |
| 18:49.49 | mjc | haha |
| 18:49.55 | mjc | watch their videos |
| 18:51.52 | mjc | like his 10 ball walking down stairs. nuts |
| 18:52.43 | Machine_ | i just get frustrated by jugglers. i cant carry a mug of coffee without spilling |
| 18:54.19 | mjc | balance and hand-eye coordination are two totally unrelated things :) |
| 18:54.41 | Cairenn | wow |
| 18:54.42 | Health | We have a good juggler at work |
| 18:55.00 | Health | does some of that stuff in the video |
| 18:55.03 | mjc | not like olga :) |
| 18:55.06 | Machine_ | well i don't have much of either |
| 18:55.14 | Machine_ | unless i'm on a motorcycle |
| 18:55.21 | mjc | Health: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXqhm5bK3hg |
| 18:55.52 | mjc | watch her hair too heh she tosses it wherever the balls aren't, everytime :P |
| 18:56.28 | mjc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfeqs_DcFA0 is better sorry |
| 18:57.20 | Health | They haven't done much more than juggling in their life... |
| 18:57.23 | Ghent-- | PProvost, you were looking for me earlier? Sorry, I'm not used to using windows clients, didn't see the msg from you in another tab |
| 18:57.28 | mjc | Health: and school :P |
| 18:57.37 | mjc | Ghent--: irssi |
| 18:57.43 | Ghent-- | aye |
| 18:57.54 | PProvost | That was way back (yesterday) when you were asking me about that code bug. :) |
| 18:57.55 | mjc | windows is shite :) |
| 18:57.59 | Ghent-- | s'what I typically use since I'm generally in linux |
| 18:58.02 | Health | I'd do her! |
| 18:58.12 | mjc | Health: heh |
| 18:58.12 | PProvost | What client are you using Ghent? |
| 18:58.13 | Ghent-- | PProvost, lol, well then :P |
| 18:58.19 | Ghent-- | x-chat |
| 18:58.20 | mjc | Ghent--: cygwin |
| 18:58.25 | Health | juggling females are hot btw |
| 18:58.27 | Ghent-- | pssh |
| 18:58.28 | PProvost | X-Chat same on all patforms |
| 18:58.29 | Ghent-- | linux :p |
| 18:58.32 | mjc | Health: she's 16 |
| 18:58.38 | PProvost | JAILBAIT |
| 18:58.40 | Ghent-- | PProvost, yeah, but I usually use cli |
| 18:58.42 | Health | doh |
| 18:58.43 | mjc | legal for me :) |
| 18:58.50 | Health | me too :p |
| 18:58.58 | mjc | and already flirting. haha |
| 18:59.02 | mjc | been for a few months |
| 18:59.17 | Machine_ | such a sexy name too |
| 18:59.22 | Health | Heh. |
| 18:59.22 | mjc | eheh |
| 18:59.33 | mjc | one of those gutteral call it out in bed names ;P |
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| 19:00.20 | Machine_ | LOLGAAAHHHHH |
| 19:00.28 | mjc | indeed |
| 19:01.16 | Ghent-- | lol |
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| 19:06.17 | mjc | http://photos-383.facebook.com/ip002/v47/34/56/502624894/n502624894_1383_4982.jpg |
| 19:06.31 | Ghent-- | does LUA have a sleep command? |
| 19:06.41 | Health | You want her! |
| 19:07.42 | mjc | Health: duh. |
| 19:07.47 | mjc | my gf wants her too. |
| 19:08.35 | Health | doh |
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| 19:09.35 | Health | gfs are for the weak |
| 19:09.42 | mjc | Health: two gfs? |
| 19:09.53 | Health | That's better |
| 19:10.17 | mjc | one that can juggle balls, pins, donuts, *and* boobs? |
| 19:10.28 | mjc | I mean |
| 19:10.32 | mjc | who wouldn't? |
| 19:11.03 | Machine_ | boobs? where |
| 19:11.11 | mjc | Machine_: up |
| 19:11.57 | Health | He should work on his haircut |
| 19:12.09 | mjc | it's a standard 18y/o cut |
| 19:12.12 | mjc | I had one of those :P |
| 19:13.14 | mjc | ckknight: sup |
| 19:13.21 | ckknight | hey, mjc |
| 19:13.46 | ag` | aaahhh vhaarr |
| 19:13.54 | Health | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx-NLPH8JeM - woot |
| 19:13.55 | vhaarr | woot |
| 19:13.56 | ag` | fuck that was easy, I just need to use my damn brain. |
| 19:14.01 | mjc | was just discussing my girlfriend and I's lust for the best female juggler in the world |
| 19:14.14 | mjc | Health: haha |
| 19:14.14 | vhaarr | ag`: Ah, one of those "it's so easy you don't even see it" things? |
| 19:14.16 | mjc | seen that |
| 19:14.27 | ag` | vhaarr, I forgot ":" instead of "." |
| 19:14.33 | deci | http://www.speculation.org/artur/nasty.jpg |
| 19:14.34 | vhaarr | ag`: err |
| 19:14.37 | ag` | if you don't have ":" self isn't passed |
| 19:14.39 | deci | i wanna get hit like that in pvp |
| 19:15.04 | vhaarr | ag`: I'm not following you now, show code. |
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| 19:16.36 | Funkeh` | hello everyone |
| 19:16.39 | Funkeh` | :) |
| 19:16.43 | Ghent-- | does LUA have a sleep/wait command of some sort?? |
| 19:16.51 | Industrial | a={} function a:b(input) print(input) end a.b(a, 'foo') a:b('foo') |
| 19:16.53 | Industrial | vhaarr: --^ |
| 19:16.55 | mjc | Ghent--: ew |
| 19:16.59 | mjc | wtf do yo uwant that for |
| 19:17.25 | ag` | two secs vhaarr |
| 19:17.44 | ckknight | Ghent--, no. |
| 19:17.55 | Ghent-- | thanks ckk |
| 19:18.09 | ckknight | so I can upgrade Ace2 to it. |
| 19:19.24 | Funkeh` | so hows everyone today? |
| 19:19.32 | ag` | vhaarr, http://pastebin.ca/194277 |
| 19:19.37 | ckknight | alright, Funkeh` |
| 19:19.45 | Funkeh` | good good :) |
| 19:19.55 | mjc | ckknight: I think I'm going into a more hardcore raiding guild. not enough raids for me lately |
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| 19:20.04 | ckknight | alright |
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| 19:20.17 | mjc | maybe that'll tide me over til lua 5.1 |
| 19:20.18 | mjc | :p |
| 19:20.19 | ckknight | in some ways, I wish I could go raid |
| 19:20.23 | mjc | dunno what you'll do |
| 19:20.24 | ckknight | but oh well |
| 19:20.34 | mjc | ckknight: my mage got banned :( |
| 19:20.40 | ckknight | really? |
| 19:20.43 | ckknight | how come? |
| 19:20.43 | mjc | yeah. |
| 19:20.49 | mjc | dunno. never got an email |
| 19:20.53 | ckknight | weird. |
| 19:20.53 | mjc | probably my gf "grinding" |
| 19:20.55 | mjc | :P |
| 19:20.57 | ag` | you were m4d haxx0r1ing? |
| 19:21.03 | ckknight | I seriously hope it wasn't my fault |
| 19:21.05 | mjc | nah |
| 19:21.09 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:21.16 | mjc | she's not too bot smart yet |
| 19:21.18 | ckknight | cause I didn't do anything bad except log in, really |
| 19:21.29 | mjc | shoulda just let her do it by hand |
| 19:21.31 | kergoth | helps if i spell it right |
| 19:21.34 | ckknight | she was botting? |
| 19:21.35 | kergoth | hey all |
| 19:21.40 | ckknight | hey, kergoth |
| 19:21.43 | mjc | ckknight: yeah. just about everyone on my server does |
| 19:21.47 | deci | hey, kergoth |
| 19:21.49 | mjc | particularly to level druids and priests |
| 19:21.49 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:21.50 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:21.59 | Health | ... |
| 19:22.00 | mjc | and pay for repair bills |
| 19:22.30 | ckknight | well, we'll see how 2.0.0 fixes that |
| 19:22.38 | mjc | haha |
| 19:22.49 | mjc | she has this tendency to get distracted and wander away from the computer though so she probably got reported by some luser |
| 19:23.05 | ckknight | ah. |
| 19:23.35 | mjc | last time I had someone whisper me while botting it broke a window :P |
| 19:23.35 | mjc | high pitched screech from 5 speakers heh |
| 19:23.48 | mjc | well ok the window was about to break anyways. haha |
| 19:24.26 | Machine_ | rampant botting on my server too |
| 19:24.28 | ckknight | lol |
| 19:24.38 | ckknight | smart thing to make it scream |
| 19:24.46 | ckknight | so that you get back to it asap |
| 19:25.23 | mjc | the default is a big "bleep" noise |
| 19:25.32 | mjc | but I always sit next to the computer or to my remote :) |
| 19:25.41 | Machine_ | i could use a bot to level my mage, damn that's tedious work |
| 19:26.32 | mjc | mages are fun to level if you figure out the combat sequence |
| 19:26.41 | Machine_ | spill |
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| 19:27.17 | mjc | poly frostbolt frostnova frostbolt next mob :) |
| 19:27.20 | deci | awww |
| 19:27.21 | deci | http://rdx-raid.com/ |
| 19:27.26 | deci | lol |
| 19:28.02 | Machine_ | ? |
| 19:28.19 | deci | i thought rdx was going to break! |
| 19:28.26 | mjc | ew @ rdx |
| 19:28.34 | Funkeh` | lol @ paying for rdx |
| 19:28.41 | deci | correction |
| 19:28.47 | deci | i was hoping it was going to break |
| 19:28.50 | deci | :P |
| 19:29.26 | Machine_ | haven't had the need for rdx since i stopped raiding to move to a pvp server full of italians and then over to Mouthbreathers-EU which is almost worse |
| 19:29.29 | Health | Quill seems cool tho |
| 19:30.41 | Machine_ | Joined three separate guilds of rerollers or alliance traitors with aq40 experience and still never got off the ground because they insisted on 15-20 members of each class so they could cherry pick the best later on |
| 19:30.58 | Machine_ | Ie nolifers or school drop-outs |
| 19:32.08 | Machine_ | but i'm not bitter or anything |
| 19:32.11 | Ghent-- | so, if I want to have a function execute that does a loop, but I want that loop to halt until each step is finished, can I do that? |
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| 19:32.39 | Ghent-- | wow, what a poorly phrased question. Basically, I'm opening a loot window and I want the addon to stop processing until the loot window is closed again |
| 19:36.35 | PProvost | Mikma, can I make reasonable predictions about which page is on which bar? |
| 19:36.58 | Mikma | go ahead |
| 19:37.02 | Mikma | let's say it's your addon now |
| 19:37.11 | PProvost | I know that... :) |
| 19:37.16 | PProvost | My question was this... |
| 19:37.25 | PProvost | Can I assume that Bar 1 == Page 1, etc? |
| 19:37.35 | PProvost | I want to remove this confusion around pages. |
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| 19:37.48 | PProvost | It requires people to have knowledge of something that only devs care about |
| 19:38.05 | Mikma | PProvost: ummmmmh, i have no idea |
| 19:38.21 | PProvost | Really? |
| 19:38.36 | Mikma | yeah. just do what you like :D |
| 19:38.46 | Mikma | i know how to use it so doesn't matter that much |
| 19:38.55 | PProvost | I will... I'm asking questions about how Bartender works on the inside. |
| 19:39.09 | PProvost | I want to change it so that people think about which Bar to swap in and not which page. |
| 19:39.20 | Mikma | PProvost: well hmm. yes BarX should match PageX |
| 19:39.22 | PProvost | But to do that, I will have to map internally from Bar 3 => Page 6, etc. |
| 19:39.24 | Mikma | i have tried to make it like that |
| 19:39.32 | PProvost | Except that it doesn't. |
| 19:39.59 | Machine_ | off topic: anyone here used wxwidgets and can recommend it? |
| 19:40.07 | Mikma | PProvost: it doesn't? |
| 19:40.17 | PProvost | I'm pretty sure bar 2 isn't page 2 |
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| 19:40.37 | Mikma | it should |
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| 19:53.22 | Funkeh` | btw who updates/maintains babble? |
| 19:53.27 | CIA-17 | 03skyboat 07Skyboat * r13282 10oSkin/oSkin/ (6 files in 2 dirs): oSkin (Skyboat): Merged with latest trunk revision. |
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| 19:54.41 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13283 10ClosetGnome/ (. ClosetGnome.lua ClosetGnome.toc libs/): ClosetGnome: Initial import. Wardrobe addon thing. Please test extensively. |
| 19:54.44 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13284 10ClosetGnome_BigWigs/ (. ClosetGnome_BigWigs.lua ClosetGnome_BigWigs.toc): ClosetGnome_BigWigs: Equips sets when BigWigs bossmodules are enabled. |
| 19:54.52 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13285 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ (. ClosetGnome_Mount.lua ClosetGnome_Mount.toc libs/): ClosetGnome_Mount: Equips the "Mount" set when you mount. |
| 19:54.57 | kergoth | ooh |
| 19:54.59 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:55.06 | [FH]Birdemani | thats interesting |
| 19:55.14 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r13286 10Popsicle/Popsicle.lua: Popsicle: Will disable raidchat from ALL ChatFrames and move it to ChatFrameX |
| 19:55.19 | [FH]Birdemani | could be odd in BWL when someone targets Chromaggus from Vaels room |
| 19:55.35 | axxo | !notes popsicle |
| 19:55.54 | kergoth | whats popsicle? |
| 19:56.02 | Mikma | why isn't the notes working :( |
| 19:56.08 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13287 10ClosetGnome/ (ClosetGnome.lua ClosetGnome.toc libs/): ClosetGnome: Externals and keywords. |
| 19:56.13 | Mikma | well anyway it changes raidchat behaviour |
| 19:56.24 | Mikma | it will hide it if you leave raid, and show it if you join raid |
| 19:56.28 | axxo | !trunk popsicle |
| 19:56.32 | Mikma | and you can define what chatframe to use |
| 19:56.44 | [FH]Birdemani | will it play well with prat? |
| 19:56.49 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13288 10ClosetGnome_BigWigs/ (ClosetGnome_BigWigs.lua ClosetGnome_BigWigs.toc): ClosetGnome_BigWigs: svn stuff. |
| 19:56.52 | Mikma | i have no idea :) |
| 19:57.00 | Mikma | atleast it plays well with vChat |
| 19:57.00 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/ClosetGnome_BigWigs |
| 19:57.22 | PProvost | Mikma, Bar2 == Page6, Bar3=Page5, Bar4=Page3, Bar5=Page4. |
| 19:57.32 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13289 10ClosetGnome/libs/: ClosetGnome: Also needs gratuity. |
| 19:57.41 | PProvost | My question is, can I depend on that or is there some magic calculation going on in there. |
| 19:57.43 | axxo | !notes ClosetGnome |
| 19:57.43 | SVNBot | ClosetGnome Notes: A gnome helper that keeps your closet organized. At least tries to. || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/ClosetGnome |
| 19:58.00 | axxo | thats helpfull |
| 19:58.23 | CIA-17 | 03mikma * r13290 10Popsicle/Popsicle.toc: Popsicle: ## Notes -> changed to match the job |
| 19:58.33 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13291 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ (ClosetGnome_Mount.lua ClosetGnome_Mount.toc libs/): ClosetGnome_Mount: Add externals and keywords. |
| 19:58.33 | Mikma | !trunk Popsicle |
| 19:58.48 | Mikma | !notes Popsicle |
| 19:58.49 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/ClosetGnome_Mount |
| 19:59.00 | SVNBot | The latest revision of Popsicle is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/Popsicle/. The TOC Wiki data has been updated. |
| 19:59.02 | Funkeh` | ck |
| 19:59.07 | SVNBot | Popsicle Notes: Show/Hide Seperated ChatFrameX when joining/leaving raid || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Popsicle |
| 19:59.12 | Mikma | there |
| 19:59.23 | Funkeh` | can you add "Armor of Faith" to babble, 30sec duration, gain, 4/9 faith proc |
| 20:00.16 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 20:00.27 | vhaarr | ClosetGnome needs YOU! |
| 20:00.32 | vhaarr | For testing. |
| 20:00.40 | Funkeh` | Spell_Holy_BlessingOfProtection is the icon |
| 20:00.46 | axxo | vhaarr: what does it do? |
| 20:00.52 | Mikma | vhaarr: ClosetGnome_Mount tries to keep mounts organized? ;D |
| 20:00.58 | PProvost | Mikma, you see my question? |
| 20:00.59 | vhaarr | haha no :P |
| 20:01.03 | vhaarr | axxo: Wardrobe. |
| 20:01.03 | PProvost | Or are you ignoring me. :D |
| 20:01.17 | axxo | pff, got good things for that |
| 20:01.17 | Mikma | PProvost: lol that's a mayor ass-suck |
| 20:01.29 | Mikma | PProvost: well that's the normal blizzard function :P |
| 20:01.34 | PProvost | I don't really mind, but it explains why people are so confused. |
| 20:01.45 | PProvost | So as far as we know, I can depend on that mapping, right? |
| 20:02.07 | vhaarr | axxo: You asked, I answered. |
| 20:02.13 | vhaarr | Use whatever you want. |
| 20:02.46 | axxo | you asked for tests, i answered :p |
| 20:02.51 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/wow_055.jpg .. woot, current svn of chronometer works with rogue stuns again, and ebb_ace2 works |
| 20:03.11 | kergoth | hrm |
| 20:03.18 | mjc | 404 |
| 20:03.22 | [FH]Birdemani | did i see that agUF got group numbers added to trunk? |
| 20:03.32 | Machine_ | ebb_ace2? |
| 20:03.52 | kergoth | er, http://kergoth.com/images/wow_055.jpg |
| 20:04.15 | kergoth | Machine_: elkano started on the ace2 version of elkbuffbar, not quite ready for primetime |
| 20:04.35 | Machine_ | ooh nice |
| 20:04.47 | mjc | kergoth: what's in yours |
| 20:04.53 | Machine_ | is it in the svn somewhere? |
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| 20:05.26 | mjc | kergoth: and how might one speed up svk co :p |
| 20:05.26 | kergoth | Machine_: yeah, branches/ElkBuffBar/elkano/ebb_ace2 |
| 20:05.49 | SH|Shabador | Hm... Anyone tried the addon Cirk's Blessings? |
| 20:06.08 | kergoth | and if it hasnt been done yet, there should really be a specialevent for gain/loss of a tempbuff. PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED doesnt pick it up, nor does UNIT_AURA |
| 20:06.29 | PProvost | Mikma, one more question. Looking at the Bartender2 code, it looks like there is some strange calculation to determine the page for the Bonus Bar (#10). What's that all about? |
| 20:07.00 | mjc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12023520&pageNo=15&sid=1 |
| 20:07.09 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13292 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.toc: ClosetGnome: Replace 'closet' with 'wardrobe' in Notes, since some people left their brain in their closet this morning. |
| 20:07.15 | vhaarr | !notes ClosetGnome |
| 20:07.44 | Mikma | PProvost: bar10 is gone |
| 20:07.51 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/ClosetGnome |
| 20:07.54 | SVNBot | ClosetGnome Notes: A gnome helper that keeps your wardrobe organized. At least tries to. || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/ClosetGnome |
| 20:08.15 | Mikma | vhaarr: hahahaha lovely commitmessage |
| 20:08.21 | vhaarr | :D |
| 20:08.31 | PProvost | Mikma, explain please. I need more info. |
| 20:08.45 | vhaarr | Mikma: You should test ClosetGnome and check out the imbaness when you equip sets. |
| 20:08.50 | vhaarr | I need more of those, btw! |
| 20:08.57 | SH|Shabador | What the the heck is ClosetGnome...? oO |
| 20:09.01 | vhaarr | The things you get when you switch sets. |
| 20:09.05 | Machine_ | more sets? |
| 20:09.22 | vhaarr | no, I need more of the things you get when you switch sets. |
| 20:09.24 | Mikma | PProvost: um, what info? :P look at the end of the BT2.lua |
| 20:10.37 | Shrike| | is there anything in ace that will can hook a user function to the item pick up functions int he main UI? |
| 20:10.45 | Health | So.. how do you know when the emerald dream dragons spawn? |
| 20:11.00 | Funkeh` | btw anyone else expiriencing a problem with bigwigs sounds, you can have it unticked and still plays death sounds, and ticked and doesnt play anything, its very random |
| 20:11.04 | [FH]Birdemani | wed and sat usually health |
| 20:11.07 | PProvost | Mikma, okay cool. You are paging it in. |
| 20:11.22 | Mikma | PProvost: propably. nevcairiel did the last changes there. |
| 20:11.28 | Mikma | oh wait i lied |
| 20:11.29 | ag` | vhaarr, http://pastebin.ca/194324 |
| 20:11.30 | ag` | use that |
| 20:11.33 | Mikma | ckknight did the latest xD |
| 20:11.44 | deci | http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h122/separat3d/tbc%20monsters/?action=view¤t=dshaman.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch12 |
| 20:11.49 | deci | WTB those for horde shaman |
| 20:11.59 | vhaarr | ag`: That's what I said earlier. |
| 20:12.08 | vhaarr | ag`: I need to register on all the unit objects. |
| 20:12.19 | ag` | vhaarr, it's done there. |
| 20:12.19 | vhaarr | ag`: Which means I'll also need to know when the unit table changes. |
| 20:12.25 | ag` | it does that |
| 20:12.27 | vhaarr | ag`: No. |
| 20:12.30 | vhaarr | what? |
| 20:12.38 | vhaarr | ah |
| 20:12.42 | ag` | all future units will register the events and all current |
| 20:12.47 | FISKER_Q | draenei totems are too cool |
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| 20:13.10 | ag` | pics or it didn't happen FISKER_Q |
| 20:13.15 | ag` | is it spaceships? |
| 20:13.25 | deci | scroll up |
| 20:13.28 | deci | i linked them |
| 20:13.29 | deci | :P |
| 20:14.13 | ag` | holy shit it is spaceships |
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| 20:14.54 | Funkeh` | anyone get this problem i stated? |
| 20:15.49 | mjc | everyone hates you Funkeh` |
| 20:15.55 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 20:17.12 | mjc | gdiaf |
| 20:17.20 | SH|Shabador | MountMe\FuBarInterface.lua:8: attempt to index global `DewdropLib' (a nil value) |
| 20:17.20 | SH|Shabador | MountMe\FuBarInterface.lua:8: in main chunk |
| 20:17.27 | SH|Shabador | Anyone know what's wrong? |
| 20:17.32 | ag` | vhaarr, is it making sense for you? |
| 20:17.44 | [FH]Birdemani | wow! thanks for fixing that acecom bug |
| 20:17.47 | vhaarr | ag`: I'm writing the ClosetGnome readme atm, I'll take a look soon |
| 20:17.57 | ag` | ok |
| 20:18.40 | [FH]Birdemani | ag - did i misread the google groups? did raid groups go to trunk? |
| 20:19.39 | ag` | what? |
| 20:19.55 | [FH]Birdemani | i thought I read that raid groups for agUF went in to trunk |
| 20:19.57 | kergoth | vhaarr: seems functional. is there any way to change an existing set, or do you have to remove it and add it again atm? |
| 20:19.59 | ag` | when are you talking about? |
| 20:20.10 | [FH]Birdemani | today |
| 20:20.13 | vhaarr | kergoth: remove + add |
| 20:20.27 | vhaarr | Simple enough anyway. |
| 20:20.29 | kergoth | cool though, i like the commentary in chat while the gnome works |
| 20:20.32 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:20.34 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 20:20.37 | vhaarr | :D |
| 20:20.46 | vhaarr | I need more of those, please contribute! |
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| 20:21.18 | kergoth | vhaarr: i presume you know that the mount set isnt unequipped after unmounting? |
| 20:21.35 | vhaarr | hrm |
| 20:21.41 | vhaarr | kergoth: What do you want it to do? |
| 20:21.55 | vhaarr | kergoth: Equip the last ClosetGnome set you had equipped before it mounted? |
| 20:21.57 | kergoth | well, itd be cool if it could revert to the set i was using before it put on mount |
| 20:22.03 | mjc | haha closetgnome? |
| 20:22.10 | kergoth | it gets uglier though, especially once you start adding other things |
| 20:22.11 | vhaarr | yes but that assumes that you didn't customize the last set. |
| 20:22.36 | vhaarr | hm |
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| 20:23.18 | kergoth | vhaarr: it sounds like you might want to consider a "toggle" of a set. equip puts it on, unequip reverts to whatever was in those slots before it was equipped. at least, thats how itemrack has it, either its just put on normally, or its "toggled", which can then be "unequipped" |
| 20:25.00 | vhaarr | hmm |
| 20:25.03 | tigg | hmm... BigWigs_NefCount.lua:150: attempt to call method `TriggerEvents' (a nil value) |
| 20:25.19 | vhaarr | woops |
| 20:25.21 | vhaarr | that's my fault |
| 20:25.23 | tigg | occurs on reset but the counter seems to count |
| 20:25.38 | kergoth | anyway, closetgnome rocks, seems like just need to work out some of the details :) |
| 20:25.47 | vhaarr | kergoth: thanks |
| 20:25.48 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13293 10BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_NefCount.lua: BigWigs_NefCount: Oops. |
| 20:26.23 | tigg | thanx :) |
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| 20:29.37 | kergoth | vhaarr: would almost need priorities long term.. consider the case where you ride into the plaguelands (assumign at some point we make a closetgnome_pl). does the plaguelands trinket override the mount trinket? optimally it wouldnt, but when the mount trinket goes away, you'd be in the plaguelands set |
| 20:29.42 | kergoth | gets messy |
| 20:29.54 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 20:30.20 | vhaarr | I actually want to leave those things to ItemRack and that generation if there's not an exceptionally clean solution. |
| 20:30.30 | vhaarr | ClosetGnome is small and works, I'd like to keep it that way. |
| 20:30.35 | deci | http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h122/separat3d/tbc%20monsters/netherdragonwhelp.jpg |
| 20:30.43 | deci | that is worth the extra $$ for CE |
| 20:30.47 | deci | wtb it nowwww |
| 20:30.55 | mjc | ce? |
| 20:31.10 | deci | collectors edition |
| 20:31.23 | mjc | how's that CE |
| 20:31.39 | deci | thats the nether whelp pet that you get from buying CE |
| 20:31.40 | Xuerian | "C"ollectors "E"dition? |
| 20:31.47 | Xuerian | :P |
| 20:31.55 | mjc | deci: oh I see |
| 20:32.11 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13294 10ClosetGnome/ (ClosetGnome.lua readme.txt): |
| 20:32.11 | CIA-17 | ClosetGnome: |
| 20:32.11 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.11 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.13 | Xuerian | Also mjc: I've got a major, major kink in my stacking code, I worked on it all last night and today, so I'll be comitting it today if I get it done X_x |
| 20:32.20 | mjc | nice |
| 20:32.29 | mjc | Xuerian: anchor code is broken too |
| 20:33.25 | kergoth | vhaarr: yeah, understandable. i'm not too opposed to doing the swapping manually, though the ability to "unequip" a set without losing previous customizations might be worthwhile |
| 20:33.36 | Xuerian | mjc: how so? |
| 20:33.41 | vhaarr | kergoth: I agree |
| 20:33.41 | neale | can anyone give me a hand with oUF - i was wondering if it's possible to get the buffs/debuffs to always show on the same side of the targetbar, not change depending on if it's an enemy or not |
| 20:33.47 | mjc | doesn't save |
| 20:33.58 | Xuerian | Hmnh |
| 20:34.29 | Xuerian | Well I'll look at it, been working for me, might be recent changes or benefit from a SV clear, but mayaswell wait till I get the sucker working right. :P |
| 20:36.11 | mjc | it always reappears after logout |
| 20:37.17 | Xuerian | Ah, did fix that |
| 20:37.40 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13295 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Switches back to the last set you had before mounting when you unmount. |
| 20:37.59 | vhaarr | Only works if you ever used a set before mounting, obviously. |
| 20:38.08 | PProvost | Mikma (since Nevcariel isn't here)-- Slightly OT question: What is FuBar_BartenderFu and how does it compare to FuBartender2? Is it a replacement? |
| 20:38.31 | Mikma | PProvost: i changed the name since people whined about it too much |
| 20:38.46 | PProvost | Has the old one been removed from SVN? |
| 20:39.15 | neale | yes it has |
| 20:39.18 | PProvost | We should ask clad to remove FuBartender2 from www/files then. |
| 20:39.53 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13296 10ClosetGnome/readme.txt: ClosetGnome: Slightly better readme. |
| 20:41.21 | Mikma | PProvost: no ask tekkub, he's in charge of wiki |
| 20:42.25 | Elkano | before I forget... |
| 20:42.55 | kergoth | hahah |
| 20:43.10 | kergoth | i know, i shouldve made my own branch, but .. :P |
| 20:43.42 | Elkano | I hadn't set a bar since Candy has a default one. this was only the stub for changing it later ^^ |
| 20:43.51 | kergoth | ah :) |
| 20:43.58 | kergoth | the way i handled the tempbuffs is icky |
| 20:44.09 | kergoth | since the buff isnt applied at the time the chat event hits |
| 20:44.12 | Elkano | and wrt weapon buffs: you've fixed the symptoms but not the illness |
| 20:44.27 | Elkano | well, I wonder why it works for ebb1 |
| 20:44.35 | kergoth | because you have an onupdate checking the weapons. |
| 20:44.37 | kergoth | i looked at the code. |
| 20:44.41 | kergoth | it wasnt event driven |
| 20:44.44 | kergoth | that part anyway |
| 20:45.12 | PProvost | cladhaire owns the files section. It's cool. I'll talk to him about it later. |
| 20:45.44 | kergoth | anyway, that chat event works, but using an arbitrary delay to wait for the buff to hit is icky, need to watch for the weapon to gain that temp enchant or something |
| 20:46.42 | Elkano | oh, you're right... |
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| 20:47.15 | kergoth | i'd like to see a new specialevents for tempbuff gain/loss |
| 20:47.55 | Ghent-- | is there a way to stop an addon from running in the middle of a loop? like, a = false during the loop, but at some point a = true and the entire script exits? |
| 20:48.11 | Elkano | me too... and I wan't GetItemInf return the vendor value :( |
| 20:48.32 | kergoth | yeah no kidding, the info's in the cache |
| 20:48.33 | dreyruugr | Ghent--: "return" ? |
| 20:48.36 | Elkano | well, "return"? |
| 20:48.49 | Ghent-- | yeah, I guess I could do that |
| 20:48.53 | Ghent-- | thanks |
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| 20:51.03 | Ghent-- | meh, I'm just not sure how to go about solving this issue I'm running into |
| 20:51.41 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13297 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Fires a ClosetGnome_WearSet on AceEvent_FullyInitialized if we're wearing something that matches a complete set. |
| 20:51.58 | jaxdahl | what are coroutines for? |
| 20:52.54 | Ghent-- | I have 2 clams in my inventory, and I want my script to open both, one at a time... problem is, it's trying to open one then the loop iterates again and tries to open the other one immediately, resulting in neither of them being opened. |
| 20:53.03 | Ghent-- | I need some way to pause execution |
| 20:53.54 | vhaarr | you need to schedule it with aceevent |
| 20:54.05 | PProvost | I need someone who is an experience warrior to help me with a few questions. Anyone? |
| 20:55.22 | kergoth | jaxdahl: cooperative multithreading |
| 20:58.57 | neale | rabbit - closetgnome looks great, tyvm |
| 20:59.53 | vhaarr | you're welcome :) |
| 21:00.14 | neale | i like the little comments ;) |
| 21:00.47 | mjc | I think I'll eventually write something to report threat meter data |
| 21:00.55 | PProvost | Warriors have three possible stances, right? |
| 21:00.58 | mjc | or at least fake that it's reporting |
| 21:00.58 | vhaarr | neale: I need more of them, only have 17 :P |
| 21:01.38 | neale | 17 is more than enough :) |
| 21:01.49 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 21:01.50 | neale | if i see any funny behaviour i will let you know |
| 21:01.51 | vhaarr | MORE! |
| 21:01.56 | vhaarr | goody |
| 21:01.57 | mjc | hum |
| 21:02.00 | neale | lol |
| 21:02.02 | neale | just what you wanted, QA |
| 21:02.05 | Ghent-- | vhaarr, I'm not sure this would work, unless I'm thinking about this improperly |
| 21:02.14 | mjc | vhaarr: ClosetGnome_Import would equal win |
| 21:02.17 | neale | question though, what does the bigwigs attachment do? |
| 21:02.31 | vhaarr | mjc: import from .. itemrack and stuff? |
| 21:02.35 | mjc | yep |
| 21:02.42 | vhaarr | mjc: I've never used itemrack or any other wardrobe addon. |
| 21:02.44 | vhaarr | ever |
| 21:02.49 | vhaarr | So I have no data. |
| 21:02.51 | mjc | would you like a sample savedvar? |
| 21:02.52 | PProvost | Does each warrior stance have its own action bar in the stock UI? |
| 21:03.00 | vhaarr | mjc: Think it's worth the hassle? |
| 21:03.04 | mjc | yep |
| 21:03.08 | vhaarr | hm |
| 21:03.10 | mjc | I have a lot of forms for my druid |
| 21:03.19 | mjc | and a lot of people are in similar situations |
| 21:03.35 | mjc | I mean even my mage has pvp gear, NR, FR, DPS, mana regen, etc. |
| 21:03.37 | vhaarr | mjc: Maybe someone should write a ClosetGnome_Forms as well |
| 21:03.38 | PProvost | If you're gonna do import, please import from Outfitter too. |
| 21:04.02 | neale | ClosetGnome_Autoset |
| 21:04.20 | vhaarr | well an autoset is just a set that is equipped by some event |
| 21:04.25 | vhaarr | mount is also a autoset |
| 21:04.27 | neale | automatically creates sets based on specific statistics, ie +dmg |
| 21:04.32 | neale | +stam |
| 21:04.40 | vhaarr | someone could write that |
| 21:04.42 | vhaarr | no problem |
| 21:04.52 | neale | :) |
| 21:04.59 | mjc | vhaarr: http://325i.org/wow/ItemRack.lua |
| 21:05.21 | mjc | note that the druid in that savedvar is not the druid I was talking about |
| 21:05.58 | ckknight_ | brb, all |
| 21:06.08 | vhaarr | noes, ckk |
| 21:06.09 | mjc | vhaarr: import from taht should be easy. |
| 21:06.11 | vhaarr | :( |
| 21:06.15 | vhaarr | mjc: sec, looking |
| 21:06.42 | vhaarr | god, look at all that bloat in the sv |
| 21:06.48 | mjc | yep |
| 21:06.58 | vhaarr | that's why I wrote DeuceLog |
| 21:07.05 | vhaarr | I puked when I looked at the pvplog sv's. |
| 21:07.09 | mjc | heh |
| 21:07.18 | mjc | "Deucebag" is cute |
| 21:07.20 | jaxdahl | dang it.. |
| 21:07.25 | vhaarr | :P |
| 21:07.32 | jaxdahl | no more auto-target hunters who FD |
| 21:08.49 | mjc | vhaarr: CG isn't on svn ? or it is and I'm dumb |
| 21:09.00 | vhaarr | it is |
| 21:10.08 | mjc | there it is |
| 21:10.16 | mjc | Iwas like 50 revs out of date |
| 21:10.25 | vhaarr | I might change the SV format. |
| 21:11.24 | hugo | is there some addon that show at thaddius who killed the raid.. who ran wrong way ? ;] |
| 21:11.30 | hugo | cant find the black sheep! |
| 21:11.59 | vhaarr | Any damage meter addon should let you know. |
| 21:12.48 | Sairen | hugo: you can do that with Simple Combat Log |
| 21:13.30 | _icetrain | vharr: equiping 2 things with the same name doesnt work in CG, like Heart of Noxxion |
| 21:13.36 | hugo | no dmg meter show dmg doneto boss |
| 21:13.37 | hugo | not to raid |
| 21:13.40 | hugo | wont help |
| 21:13.46 | vhaarr | _icetrain: Ah. I'll take a look at it shortly. |
| 21:13.51 | _icetrain | if you equip the set twice both are switched though :) |
| 21:14.03 | hugo | Sairen ill look at it ;] |
| 21:15.11 | _icetrain | I also got some "That item doesnt go in that slot" error when equiping one set, no idea what's casuing it though.. everything is in place |
| 21:15.12 | mjc | I want to bind garbagefu to a key. |
| 21:15.33 | _icetrain | might be 2 1h -> 1 2h weapon switch |
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| 21:24.32 | FFOS|Darclite | hi all |
| 21:24.55 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13298 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: SavedVariable format changed to just take the slot ID instead of the name, simply because it's faster and requires less API calls to convert back and forth. Better sooner than later, early-adopters! |
| 21:25.04 | vhaarr | Hope you can live with that :) |
| 21:25.31 | FFOS|Darclite | got a question is it possible that an addon can cause lag spikes? |
| 21:27.13 | Health | You are a lag spike. |
| 21:29.26 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13299 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: If there's no Mount set, don't reequip the last set on dismount, since nothing changed when we mounted anyway. |
| 21:30.54 | FFOS|Darclite | -.- whats that for an answer Health? |
| 21:32.01 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13300 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Gah. |
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| 21:34.03 | jaxdahl | The event PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED is sent before protected frames are locked down, and the event PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED is sent after protected frames are unlocked. |
| 21:34.03 | jaxdahl | You can tell whether or not a particular frame can currently be moved/resized/shown, etc. by calling Frame:CanChangeProtectedState() |
| 21:34.15 | vhaarr | MrPLOW! |
| 21:34.20 | vhaarr | <3 |
| 21:34.22 | vhaarr | brb |
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| 21:38.05 | PProvost | RFC Bartender2_Pagemaster Redesign: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2530.0 |
| 21:38.27 | PProvost | bbl |
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| 21:45.49 | ckknight | alright, I flashed my router to use DD-WRT |
| 21:45.53 | ckknight | we'll see how it goes |
| 21:46.26 | Kemayo | Aw, man. Now I have to relearn where everything is in ag_UF. ;_; |
| 21:49.14 | vhaarr | ckknight: Hoping to stop those frequent disconnects? |
| 21:49.20 | ckknight | yep. |
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| 21:49.58 | vhaarr | excellent |
| 21:50.42 | vhaarr | ckknight: I have a numericly keyed acelocale table, and :HasTranslation and :GetTranslation does not work on it, only L[#]. |
| 21:50.52 | ckknight | odd |
| 21:51.02 | ckknight | why do you have a numerically keyed AceLocale table? |
| 21:51.19 | vhaarr | because I want a random one |
| 21:51.25 | ckknight | that's not how it was designed :-P |
| 21:51.33 | vhaarr | it's convenient, I tells ye! |
| 21:51.56 | vhaarr | well it's no matter, instead of :HasTranslation, I just check if L[#] == nil |
| 21:52.15 | vhaarr | |AceLocale.argCheck(self, text, 1, "string")| |
| 21:52.19 | vhaarr | first line of :HasTranslation |
| 21:52.21 | vhaarr | so it's not odd :P |
| 21:56.09 | BoltR | Oh man, it looks like I may need to build a shrine to rabbit; closet gnome seems to be exactly what I wanted |
| 21:56.46 | vhaarr | Well, it has some bugs still that I'm trying to iron out :) |
| 21:58.38 | ag` | vhaarr, don't know if you noticed that I did that thing you wanted to do |
| 21:58.42 | ag` | split it up in more files |
| 21:58.50 | vhaarr | ag`: ooh, really? excellent. |
| 21:58.54 | BoltR | Maybe so, but when all the bugs are gone it's going to be perfect |
| 21:59.31 | BoltR | I just wanted a simple set mod where I can switch sets with a macro, I didn't wnat any of the automated stuff found in the other mods |
| 21:59.55 | vhaarr | Then CG is for you :) |
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| 22:00.09 | BoltR | Exactly |
| 22:00.18 | CIA-17 | 03wmrojer * r13301 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (7 files): |
| 22:00.18 | CIA-17 | FuBarFuBar_GarbageFu : Fixed bug where sell items wheren't respecting grey items that where marked for keep. |
| 22:00.18 | CIA-17 | Added quality threshold for when to use auction price for items. (Does not work for caching auctioneer prices) |
| 22:00.49 | BoltR | Actually I guess I wanted ONE automated thing, but ClosetGnome_Mounted takes care of that |
| 22:00.51 | BoltR | ;p |
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| 22:01.00 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_GarbageFu |
| 22:01.03 | BoltR | err Mount |
| 22:01.34 | [FH]Birdemani | soemthing about PRAT seems to significantly increase my KiBs |
| 22:01.47 | [FH]Birdemani | idle in IF used to be about .3 and now I am up to 4 |
| 22:02.18 | PProvost_ | Can we get a ClosetGnome write up on the forums or the wiki? |
| 22:02.40 | BoltR | Right now i'm at 0.2 - 0.5; i'll see what I get to after I delete the prat modules I don't want |
| 22:02.54 | vhaarr | PProvost: No. |
| 22:03.14 | PProvost_ | (Shhh... its a secret... don't write it up for anyone.) |
| 22:05.44 | BoltR | I don't think he wants everyone switching over just yet ;p |
| 22:07.09 | PProvost_ | Then it should be in branches. |
| 22:07.35 | vhaarr | No. |
| 22:07.59 | vhaarr | WoWAce's use of trunk and branch defies all norms. |
| 22:08.12 | PProvost_ | Yes, it does. But that's the way it is. |
| 22:08.22 | Gtyrte | Anyone got experience with Ag UnitFrames here? |
| 22:08.24 | vhaarr | No, it's not. |
| 22:08.33 | Kemayo | Gtyrte: Some degree of, yes. |
| 22:08.35 | FFOS|Darclite | im useing it Gtyrte |
| 22:08.35 | vhaarr | PProvost_: It's my addon, and I'll post about it on the forums when I want to. |
| 22:08.36 | kergoth | no, it isnt. its up to the developer how to manage their lines of development. |
| 22:08.43 | vhaarr | PProvost_: And that's final. |
| 22:09.09 | PProvost_ | As you wish. |
| 22:09.20 | ag` | vhaarr, had a chance to look at that code I provided? |
| 22:09.33 | Kemayo | ...closetGnome? |
| 22:09.37 | vhaarr | ag`: yes but I haven't had a chance to test it yet. |
| 22:09.41 | BoltR | In my mind, adding it to trunk and posting it on the forums is quite a difference in users that are going to use it |
| 22:09.48 | PProvost_ | Like it or not folks, people use trunk as a "beta or better" release vehicle. |
| 22:09.48 | Gtyrte | Kemayo, do you know how I can get the unitframe of my char larger? |
| 22:10.13 | ag` | ok. If you look at it you will see that you probably need to hook the status bar color functions too to prevent them from changing color while they have aggro |
| 22:10.14 | Kemayo | Gtyrte: alt+right-click on the frame. There's a "frame scale" option. |
| 22:10.23 | Gtyrte | Thanks =) |
| 22:10.24 | vhaarr | ag`: alright |
| 22:10.31 | ag` | vhaarr, as I didn't code that in |
| 22:10.44 | vhaarr | PProvost_: I'll let them use it how they want, I've made no guarantees. |
| 22:10.52 | CIA-17 | 03wmrojer * r13302 10FuBar_RecZone/ (FuBar_RecZone.toc RecZone.lua RecZoneLocals_enUS.lua): |
| 22:10.52 | CIA-17 | FuBar_RecZone : Fixed bug where setting for the minimap location bar wasn't save restored correctly upon load. |
| 22:10.52 | CIA-17 | Made FuBar optional. |
| 22:10.52 | CIA-17 | Added a "Walk Path" tooltip for recommended zones and instances. Shows how to get there. |
| 22:10.59 | ag` | but it should be easy, just hook them the same way I hook RegisterEvents |
| 22:11.04 | Tek|Hibernate | wewt! |
| 22:11.11 | Tek|Hibernate | I've been branded |
| 22:11.11 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_RecZone |
| 22:11.32 | BoltR | Sounds painful :/ |
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| 22:12.18 | yacoob | Argh |
| 22:12.33 | yacoob | You come back, login, and find that your UI freezes after login. |
| 22:12.36 | yacoob | How come, I ask? |
| 22:12.45 | yacoob | (in the middle of turning mods one by one) |
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| 22:18.15 | sergio | vhaarr: empty slots aren't working when I equip a set. I just get that item doesn't belong in that slot. |
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| 22:18.36 | vhaarr | sergio: I just fixed that. |
| 22:18.39 | vhaarr | let me commit in a minute. |
| 22:18.46 | vhaarr | err |
| 22:18.48 | vhaarr | I think. |
| 22:20.49 | vhaarr | sergio: try now |
| 22:20.56 | CIA-17 | 03rabbit * r13303 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: For deequipping items, we need a queue with a timer delay between items, since it does not happen instantly. |
| 22:21.31 | BoltR | My god, the quotes when you switch gear lol |
| 22:21.46 | vhaarr | :D |
| 22:21.55 | vhaarr | I need more of those by the way .. CONTRIBUTE! |
| 22:22.05 | mjc | vhaarr: there is an event fired when it actually is de-equipped |
| 22:22.15 | vhaarr | mjc: reeeeally |
| 22:22.22 | vhaarr | mjc: UPDATE_INVENTORY_somethingsomething? |
| 22:22.31 | mjc | check kyubi |
| 22:22.40 | mjc | vhaarr: "what kind of (wo)man are you that you change outfits so often!?!" |
| 22:22.49 | vhaarr | haha |
| 22:22.51 | vhaarr | adding it now |
| 22:23.04 | BoltR | Hmm, the fubar text doesn't update when you switch outfits, but when you mouse over it. Not that i'll use the FuBar icon when I get it all set up |
| 22:23.06 | mjc | have to check whether the player is M or F |
| 22:23.45 | vhaarr | it needs a %s though, so it'll be "What kind of person are you that changes outfits so often? Your ClosetGnome eyes you up and down. He looks .. hungry." |
| 22:23.51 | vhaarr | err |
| 22:23.55 | vhaarr | and I forgot the %s |
| 22:23.56 | vhaarr | hm |
| 22:24.02 | sergio | vhaarr: it works but it's slow and not very useful like this |
| 22:24.04 | mjc | vhaarr: "I've always wanted to be Wonder Woman, of course. She had the greatest costume." Kelly Hu |
| 22:24.19 | vhaarr | sergio: it can't be faster, I think |
| 22:24.22 | vhaarr | sergio: or can you prove me wrong? |
| 22:24.25 | mjc | vhaarr: "Women: You can't live with them, and you can't get them to dress up in a skimpy little Nazi costume and beat you with a warm squash or something. " Emo Phillips |
| 22:24.38 | BoltR | heh |
| 22:24.42 | Tek|Hibernate | Women: You can't live with them |
| 22:24.52 | vhaarr | mjc: these things are not quotes, they're quips I thought of last night |
| 22:24.58 | sergio | vhaarr: I'm not a coder but itemrack for example was instant almost |
| 22:25.01 | mjc | they're still funny |
| 22:25.07 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 22:25.20 | mjc | and worth including |
| 22:26.05 | vhaarr | [18] = "What kind of person are you that dresses up in %s so often? Your ClosetGnome eyes you up and down. He looks .. hungry." |
| 22:26.51 | mjc | hahah |
| 22:27.15 | CIA-17 | 03ruinna * r13304 10FuBar_OutfitterFu/ (FuBar_OutfitterFu.toc README.txt): FuBar_OutfitterFu: updated optionaldeps and x-embeds headers in TOC, small updates to README |
| 22:27.25 | Health | I'm so bored! |
| 22:27.49 | Industrial | Blood Guard Wtfjustaccep |
| 22:27.50 | Industrial | lol! |
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| 22:31.46 | Industrial | http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_100806_0030231dc.jpg |
| 22:32.59 | Mikma | hmmh |
| 22:33.16 | Mikma | tomorrow i will start to upgrading Popsicle |
| 22:33.39 | Industrial | popsicle? |
| 22:34.19 | Mikma | !notes Popsicle |
| 22:34.19 | SVNBot | Popsicle Notes: Show/Hide Seperated ChatFrameX when joining/leaving raid || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Popsicle |
| 22:34.35 | Industrial | why the name Popsicle? |
| 22:34.39 | Mikma | i got annoyed too much of having all the channels in same window |
| 22:34.45 | paranoidi | tekSupport did really saved my ass today, some addon was causing lag on every ammo fire .. just monitor events and bingo. Altough the mod in question was a bit suprise. It was allakhazam's WarcrartReader (WR) ;P |
| 22:34.47 | yacoob | Mikma, does it have the feature I want yet? :) |
| 22:34.48 | Mikma | because the original name was PopUpChat |
| 22:35.00 | Mikma | yacoob: not yet. only beta-raid support |
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| 22:35.28 | yacoob | Mikma, *nod*nod* I'll wait patiently :) |
| 22:35.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+o kergoth] by ChanServ |
| 22:35.49 | yacoob | hm, cannot change the size of mirrorbar's spell name in oCB... |
| 22:36.00 | Mikma | yacoob: well the thing is... BG is hard to test the way you wanted :) |
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| 22:36.17 | Mikma | i'd haveto join and quit and wait and join and quit and wait etc |
| 22:37.23 | Mikma | but, the good news is that i copypasted the code from Prat/ChannelsSeparator and the BG has now a way of enabling it to another chatframe |
| 22:37.34 | yacoob | ah, to test the event of entering... |
| 22:38.38 | Mikma | hmm |
| 22:39.33 | Mikma | well i took the events from SupplyAndDemand |
| 22:39.47 | Mikma | too bad it don't have an event for BG |
| 22:39.53 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo 07Kemayo * r13305 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames (Kemayo): Make question-mark placeholder for non-visible units work. |
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| 22:41.34 | Mikma | kergoth: noooo! classicons <3 |
| 22:42.07 | Kemayo | I'm precisely lazy enough that I don't want to deal with anything which isn't :SetModel(). :-P |
| 22:42.26 | Mikma | hmm there should be a way.. |
| 22:42.44 | BoltR | Hmm, odd. ClosetGnome_Mount isn't working for me. There is a ClosetGnome_Mount.lua in my saved variables (containing only CloserGnomeMountDB = nil) so it's doing SOMETHING, but it doesn't show up in /cg, and doesn't throw any error/notification when I mount |
| 22:43.17 | Kemayo | I spent a while looking through the spell effects. I didn't see anything that seemed particularly class-iconic. |
| 22:43.25 | kergoth | Mikma: you missed |
| 22:43.37 | kergoth | BoltR: i think you might need to name your mount set "Mount" for it to use it |
| 22:43.40 | Mikma | kergoth: noooo, i love you too |
| 22:43.44 | BoltR | I have one called Mount |
| 22:43.56 | BoltR | It doesn't do anything with it when I mount |
| 22:44.00 | kergoth | weird |
| 22:44.07 | kergoth | it works here, i'm not on absolute latest svn yet though |
| 22:44.47 | BoltR | That might be it |
| 22:44.49 | Mikma | Kemayo: what about if i find you the icons and paths for the pictures? |
| 22:45.14 | yacoob | and this is very strange |
| 22:45.21 | Mikma | Kemayo: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1831-1-classportrait.html |
| 22:45.45 | Kemayo | Still doesn't work through :SetModel... |
| 22:45.48 | yacoob | I load up game, enter the world, and I have 15 or so seconds freeze, the UI is there, but frozen. |
| 22:45.56 | yacoob | no such thing after /console reloadui |
| 22:46.07 | Mikma | Kemayo: yeah it doesn't but i can mod it to have classicons |
| 22:48.40 | Mikma | portrait:SetTexture(icon) |
| 22:48.45 | Mikma | shouldn't be that hard |
| 22:48.59 | kergoth | vhaarr: fubar plugin doesnt seem to update its display until i mouseover |
| 22:49.37 | BoltR | Yeah, there is that too |
| 22:49.50 | Industrial | mjc: ping :D |
| 22:53.54 | snurre | meh, so tired :( |
| 22:55.07 | CIA-17 | 03wmrojer * r13306 10AbacusLib/ (Abacus-2.0/Abacus-2.0.lua Lib/AbacusLib.lua): AbacusLib - trac Ticket #25. Fixed negative money below 1g not showing as negative. |
| 22:56.44 | Mikma | Kemayo: lol the questionmark is.. nice |
| 22:56.54 | Mikma | but i'd still like to see classicons instead ;D |
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| 22:58.24 | snurre | wonder if any of my addons work with tbc |
| 23:01.20 | jaxdahl | what is a good application for coroutines? |
| 23:01.37 | Health | eh |
| 23:01.45 | jaxdahl | ie, why did they add it? |
| 23:03.10 | CIA-17 | 03sole * r13307 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist - Fixed bug with incorrect bar color's appearing when barcolor is set to "school" (dry coded) |
| 23:03.58 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=no@203-173-139-181.bliink.ihug.co.nz) |
| 23:04.02 | Sole | hallo |
| 23:04.45 | paranoidi | btw, do you guys usually do something ingame while coding? Like, what are best ways to grind some gold while doing it :) |
| 23:07.07 | BoltR | Farm gold while coding? Sit by a rich thorium spawn? :/ |
| 23:07.10 | Sole | I just afk in org |
| 23:10.07 | snurre | btw, trying to use aguf and bartender2 on TBC was not the smartest thing ever |
| 23:10.37 | haste | attempting to play WoW while beryl was active, was no the smartest move today |
| 23:10.51 | haste | I miss the cube effect when changing desktop :( |
| 23:11.29 | deci | purl needs a ~warstomp |
| 23:11.40 | deci | so i can warstomp haste |
| 23:11.54 | haste | http://www.lovethatfun.com/Porn_for_your_PC_/727/ << very useful effects |
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| 23:14.25 | Industrial | zomg @ music at 1:25 |
| 23:14.28 | Industrial | xD |
| 23:14.37 | Industrial | I need that |
| 23:14.40 | Industrial | track |
| 23:14.42 | Industrial | lol |
| 23:16.22 | haste | Industrial: give me a sec |
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| 23:17.15 | haste | Industrial: okey, I'll upload it for you :p |
| 23:17.59 | Vanesco | Hey guys, could someone please give me a 'guided tour' of the dewdrop lib? :/ i can't get it to work |
| 23:18.33 | Mikma | oh well |
| 23:18.34 | haste | Industrial: http://har.vondt.der.se/~haste/01-machinae_supremacy-multiball.mp3 << their site is down so, here you have it |
| 23:18.42 | BoltR | Yeah |
| 23:18.43 | Mikma | was harder job than i expected |
| 23:18.47 | BoltR | It's definately based on a NES game |
| 23:18.58 | BoltR | Pinball ehh |
| 23:19.05 | BoltR | I guess so |
| 23:19.22 | yacoob | machinae supremacy pwns |
| 23:19.24 | haste | It's from the pinball game |
| 23:19.30 | yacoob | ...wait, what do you mean 'down'? |
| 23:19.35 | haste | site |
| 23:19.39 | haste | didn't work here at least |
| 23:20.31 | haste | and soon they will release a new album! |
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| 23:21.47 | Gtyrte | Nice movie beat vista but, nothing beat windows2k look. |
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| 23:22.46 | Industrial | haste: WEWT |
| 23:22.47 | Industrial | :D |
| 23:22.56 | Industrial | <3 chiptunes =P |
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| 23:29.01 | Tekkub | http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bearpawtx2.jpg |
| 23:29.03 | Vanesco | No help to get on Dewdrop? |
| 23:32.14 | Tekkub | fine, be that way |
| 23:33.43 | Xuerian | .xm/.it/.mod/.win |
| 23:34.20 | Wobin | hehe |
| 23:34.25 | Wobin | You're talking to Tem |
| 23:34.36 | Wobin | And is that PProvost? =) |
| 23:34.51 | Wobin | (PS, nice tat =)) |
| 23:35.09 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 23:35.19 | Tekkub | first one |
| 23:35.47 | Wobin | Vanesco: What sort of help are you after? |
| 23:37.10 | Vanesco | well.. i fail completely at the example shown on wowace.. i understand that it tries to bind the menu to the minimap.. |
| 23:37.33 | Vanesco | and i've been fiddling around with the syntax trying to find it to my frame.. |
| 23:37.42 | Vanesco | but without any luck :/ |
| 23:38.30 | Wobin | pastey your code? |
| 23:39.03 | Vanesco | well.. i removed everything again since it broke my ui |
| 23:39.17 | Vanesco | but i've just been playing around with the example on wowace |
| 23:39.58 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r13308 10ag_UnitFrames/layouts/ (Roartindon.lua layouts.xml): |
| 23:39.58 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 23:39.58 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.07 | Funkeh` | ag |
| 23:40.18 | yacoob | roar? |
| 23:40.44 | Wobin | graargh |
| 23:40.45 | Funkeh` | theres a bug that sometimes happens after ui reload where it compresses your party frame together, mouseing over "scale" in the goups menu makes it read the settings |
| 23:41.13 | Funkeh` | and return to normal |
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| 23:42.41 | CIA-17 | 03nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r13309 10ag_UnitFrames/ (13 files in 2 dirs): ag_UF(Branch): merged changes from trunk |
| 23:43.02 | Vanesco | Wobin: like, if i take the example.. i get an error saying 'table expected, got nil' http://pastebin.ca/194530 |
| 23:44.03 | Wobin | is FCRCSMain defined in the XML? |
| 23:44.10 | Vanesco | yes |
| 23:44.16 | Vanesco | shall i paste the xml aswell? |
| 23:44.28 | Wobin | Aye |
| 23:44.31 | Wobin | oh wait |
| 23:44.37 | Wobin | You need to Register |
| 23:44.39 | Wobin | not Open |
| 23:44.45 | Vanesco | oh |
| 23:44.52 | Vanesco | http://pastebin.ca/194531 |
| 23:45.02 | Wobin | Open only works once the frame is registered |
| 23:45.30 | Vanesco | Bad argument #2 to 'Register' (table expected, got nil) |
| 23:45.52 | Wobin | It's named FCRCSFrame, not Main? |
| 23:46.11 | Wobin | oh wait |
| 23:46.13 | Wobin | I see |
| 23:46.47 | Wobin | Meh, I hate xml =P |
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| 23:46.58 | Wobin | So the frame all shows properly? |
| 23:46.58 | Vanesco | hehe |
| 23:47.01 | Vanesco | yes |
| 23:48.11 | Wobin | hm |
| 23:48.16 | Wobin | Oh I think I know what it is |
| 23:48.26 | Vanesco | http://www.fc-guild.org/images/fcrcs.jpg |
| 23:48.32 | Wobin | You've put <Script file="firstchoice.lua"/> |
| 23:48.35 | Wobin | up top |
| 23:48.38 | Wobin | so it loads the lua first |
| 23:48.42 | Goggles | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.43 | Wobin | and runs the register |
| 23:48.51 | Wobin | when the xml hasn't finished running |
| 23:49.05 | Wobin | put the register in the OnInitialize or something |
| 23:49.18 | Wobin | Goggles, use dev.wowace.com |
| 23:49.29 | Wobin | for committing |
| 23:49.37 | Wobin | it requires a login |
| 23:49.58 | Industrial | mail cladhaire@gmail.com |
| 23:50.05 | Tekkub | Goggles, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 23:50.08 | Wobin | if you don't have one already |
| 23:50.11 | Tekkub | don't listen to indie |
| 23:50.12 | Nightdew | so we have to update all again? |
| 23:50.18 | Industrial | Tekkub: woops? :X |
| 23:50.21 | Nightdew | all the paths |
| 23:50.21 | Vanesco | Wobin: so adde the code to my xml file instead? |
| 23:50.26 | Tekkub | we changed it indie |
| 23:50.32 | Tekkub | point people at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules :) |
| 23:50.37 | Industrial | kay |
| 23:50.44 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r13310 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_FrameTemplate.xml ag_GroupClass.lua): |
| 23:50.44 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 23:50.44 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.06 | Tekkub | we want people to read those before we give them an acct, since giving accts and linking that page just wasn't working |
| 23:51.08 | Goggles | ok thanks. that link to SVN Rules - I tried a link on the forums to what should have been that and it took me to another wiki page. too many confusing and misleading posts on the forum imo |
| 23:51.12 | Wobin | Vanesco: Are you using Ace2 as a base? |
| 23:51.17 | Vanesco | yes |
| 23:51.26 | Wobin | Use the OnInitialize function |
| 23:51.31 | Tekkub | Goggles, yea I'm tired of forum threads |
| 23:51.39 | Wobin | That will run once the xml and everything has loaded |
| 23:52.22 | Goggles | gah! I just tried the link I tried earlier and it does take me to the page you just linked >.< Think it's too late for me or something |
| 23:52.41 | Industrial | ~wtf QFT |
| 23:52.52 | Industrial | :s |
| 23:53.05 | Wobin | Quoted For Truth |
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| 23:56.08 | Vanesco | Wobin: so.. i create a function.. placed all the code in it.. and i run it <OnInitialize> in the xml file.. |
| 23:56.12 | JoshBork1 | did my fix go in? ^_^ |
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| 23:56.26 | JoshBork1 | woohoo! it did! |
| 23:56.29 | Wobin | nono, Create a function called OnInitialize() in your lua |
| 23:56.31 | Vanesco | Wobin: addon loads.. no errors.. but nothing is happening (no menu when i rightclick) |
| 23:56.34 | Vanesco | ah |
| 23:56.35 | Vanesco | :x |
| 23:56.36 | Vanesco | hehe |
| 23:56.38 | Wobin | Ace2 will call it |
| 23:57.45 | CIA-17 | 03kemayo * r13311 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Strip ", Wherever" from flight point names. |
| 23:58.30 | CIA-17 | 03ag * r13312 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_FrameTemplate.xml layouts/Roartindon.lua): |
| 23:58.30 | CIA-17 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 23:58.30 | CIA-17 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.00 | Vanesco | Wobin: done.. still nothing :) but i've prolly done it wrong again |
| 23:59.09 | Wobin | pastey? =) |
| 23:59.12 | Vanesco | :> sec |
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| 23:59.34 | Kemayo | ag`: Where would you prefer a unified diff be sent for portraits so you can review it? |
| 23:59.54 | ag` | yeah, could you make it with tortoise if possible? |
