| 00:00.12 | Tekkub | okey, sweets :) |
| 00:01.20 | [FH]Birdemani | ok strange, i just took a mage portal and my agUF self unitframe disappeared |
| 00:01.25 | *** join/#wowace leech2k (n=leech@deathgrab.com) |
| 00:02.35 | CIA-11 | 03grimwald 07Grimwald * r13150 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 00:02.35 | CIA-11 | oRA2_Buff: |
| 00:02.35 | CIA-11 | * lots of changes - might be less stable than the previous version! |
| 00:02.35 | CIA-11 | * CoolDown -> Cooldown |
| 00:02.35 | CIA-11 | * added "Grimwald_" to module names (for translations) |
| 00:02.35 | CIA-11 | * moved common code from Buff.lua and Cooldown.lua to SpellTimesLib |
| 00:02.37 | CIA-11 | * moved code for detecting buffs locally from Buff.lua to BuffLocal.lua |
| 00:02.46 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower_ (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 00:04.42 | [FH]Birdemani | hrm, left raid group and still staid in the raid with frames, et al |
| 00:05.54 | Nightdew | is neronix still around? |
| 00:06.17 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.120) |
| 00:06.17 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:06.25 | Nightdew | sup ckknight |
| 00:07.00 | ckknight | hey, Nightdew |
| 00:07.29 | *** join/#wowace Thunder_Child (i=user@c-66-229-53-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:07.42 | Nightdew | anyone know if mobhealth3 is still in development? |
| 00:08.39 | Industrial | why it doesnt work? |
| 00:09.10 | Nightdew | just making sure it will before i spend time on it |
| 00:09.12 | Nightdew | using it |
| 00:09.27 | [FH]Birdemani | ive been using it for some time, works great |
| 00:10.08 | Nightdew | k |
| 00:10.16 | Nightdew | it looks like an addon |
| 00:10.20 | Nightdew | it is a lib right? |
| 00:10.27 | Industrial | If something is not being continuously developed on it doesnt mean its dead and there is better out there. It might actually be almost finished, or the author isnt receiving any feedback to make it better |
| 00:10.32 | Industrial | its an addon |
| 00:11.45 | Nightdew | it was going to be a lib |
| 00:13.10 | Prophy | did chronometer replace cooldown timers? |
| 00:14.11 | Industrial | it replaced AceTimer |
| 00:17.00 | |Spanky| | did you guys see the thing about click casting in the expansion? |
| 00:18.30 | Tem|food | Anything form the expansion is pure speculation |
| 00:18.41 | Tem|food | it's also covered by an NDA |
| 00:19.03 | Tem|food | if you guys don't mind (you don't get a choice) Please keep talk of NDA covered material to other places |
| 00:19.26 | Kaelten | As a fair rule I'd disregard anything you see about the expansion other than on blizz's official releases as bullshit rumors |
| 00:19.42 | |Spanky| | well it was posted by veni of rdx |
| 00:19.50 | |Spanky| | on his forums |
| 00:19.52 | Tem|food | since when is that a reliable source? |
| 00:19.53 | Kaelten | whos that? |
| 00:20.04 | Tem|food | With any information do this: Consider the Source |
| 00:20.17 | |Spanky| | venifcius he is the creater of the rdx mods |
| 00:20.22 | vhaarr | I'm guessing his expansion access will be closed down and the proper action taken against him then. |
| 00:20.30 | vhaarr | Since he has blatantly violated the NDA. |
| 00:20.37 | Kaelten | if he's even in it |
| 00:20.43 | Tem|food | if the source of expantion related material is not BLIZZARD, ***Don't Trust it*** |
| 00:20.58 | Tem|food | vhaarr, you don't know if he's in whatever testing they have going atm or not |
| 00:21.03 | vhaarr | true |
| 00:21.05 | Tem|food | they do though :) |
| 00:21.14 | cladhaire | I personally won't trust anyting until I see teh FrameXML |
| 00:21.19 | cladhaire | there's too much bullshit floating all over the place. |
| 00:21.29 | vid` | heh |
| 00:21.29 | Kaelten | heh, |
| 00:21.34 | vid` | i remember when i was in shadowbane beta |
| 00:21.43 | Kaelten | clad I got some xml I made up... err found the other night wanna see? |
| 00:21.45 | vid` | they sent me this like 500 page document i had to sign and mail back |
| 00:21.54 | vid` | and the game was on a cd-r with shadowbane handwritten :P |
| 00:21.56 | cladhaire | "zomg warriors can dual wield 2-h weapons with only 25% damage penalty" lolz! |
| 00:22.17 | vhaarr | cladhaire: How will you be able to verify that by the FrameXML ? :P |
| 00:23.21 | cladhaire | vhaarr: If you have the framexml, then you have access to the real talents, imo |
| 00:23.53 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 00:24.37 | kergoth | is there a playertargets addon for ora2? i remember there being one for ora |
| 00:25.02 | vhaarr | not yet |
| 00:25.30 | vhaarr | I think ammo wants to finish the MT frames and just basically copy/paste. |
| 00:25.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:25.40 | kergoth | makes sense |
| 00:25.42 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 00:25.44 | vhaarr | less work |
| 00:28.11 | CIA-11 | 03thiana * r13151 10tcgMobResists/Core.lua: tcgMobResists: Add a check to see that we arent being asked to update the tooltip twice (broken hooks somewhere?) |
| 00:28.57 | kergoth | Thiana: its pretty common, afaik a lot of addons end up checking to make sure things dont get added twice. probably a blizz bug or something |
| 00:29.33 | Thiana | kergoth: If it was blizzard, it should happen on a vanilla wow though. Even with just tcgMR I'm not seeing it here. |
| 00:29.44 | kergoth | true, thats weird |
| 00:30.02 | kergoth | must be some addon doing something bad, but i dunno which one itd be, dont have any addons messing with mob tooltips i dont think |
| 00:30.41 | Thiana | kergoth: The hook is for OnShow, so anything that touches a tooltip could be causing it. |
| 00:30.50 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:30.52 | kergoth | :\ |
| 00:34.18 | nullpuppy | kergoth: what time is that ZG run? |
| 00:35.03 | kergoth | i'm not sure actually, its a pug so it seems to happen whenever the guy from seventh column feels like it. last night's was pretty late though, around 10pm server time |
| 00:37.25 | eternally777 | Kebinusan: Ping |
| 00:37.31 | eternally777 | WTB naxx guild :( |
| 00:39.55 | nullpuppy | ah, ok |
| 00:39.58 | nullpuppy | *might* make it |
| 00:41.18 | kergoth | well if not we'll farm some rep some other time so you can use those bracers at least :) |
| 00:46.50 | nullpuppy | k :) |
| 00:48.32 | *** join/#wowace kb1ibt (n=kb1ibt@c-24-61-9-71.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 00:51.50 | mjc | http://325i.org/wow/raiding.jpg |
| 00:52.22 | *** join/#wowace Espa (n=espa@wkstn109-234.harbin.georgetown.edu) |
| 00:54.03 | kb1ibt | tem:ping |
| 00:54.09 | Tem|food | pong |
| 00:54.41 | Tekkub | okey yea.. that south park is exactly why I refuse to use vent/teamspeak |
| 00:55.03 | kb1ibt | lol i saw that ep and it was a little messed up |
| 00:55.14 | kb1ibt | like the fact it ignored GYs |
| 00:55.43 | Tekkub | and suddenly I don't feel like a pathetic little nerd anymore |
| 00:55.50 | kb1ibt | and that you have to turn on /pvp on certain servers or in areas like goldhire which are only for one faction |
| 00:57.33 | alkis | what's the difference between UpdateText() UpdateData() and UpdateTooltip in Fubar? |
| 00:57.51 | alkis | or better put what's the difference of Data, Text and Tooltip.... |
| 00:58.59 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r13152 10FuBar_PursueFu/FuBar_PursueFu.lua: |
| 00:58.59 | CIA-11 | PursueFu: |
| 00:58.59 | CIA-11 | * Attempt to fix minimap icon issue. |
| 00:59.15 | mjc | what's pursuefu :P |
| 00:59.23 | eternally777 | UpdateText updates the text on the FuBar |
| 00:59.28 | eternally777 | (and icon) |
| 00:59.53 | eternally777 | mjc: It lets you handle your tracking spells from the bar rather than your spellbook/actionbuttons/minimap |
| 00:59.58 | mjc | oh. |
| 01:00.13 | alkis | if this is not used as a fubar plugin but just a minimap icon then UpdateText updates just the icon? |
| 01:00.19 | eternally777 | UpdateText() executes the :OnTextUpdate() function of your addon |
| 01:00.41 | alkis | does it calls anything else afterwards? |
| 01:00.45 | eternally777 | UpdateData() -> :OnDataUpdate(), UpdateTooltip() -> :OnTooltipUpdate() |
| 01:00.47 | eternally777 | Don't think so. |
| 01:00.50 | [FH]Birdemani | is there a way to fix duececommander? seems that custom bar is causing errors with it |
| 01:01.10 | alkis | so where should i update the menu of the plugin? |
| 01:01.36 | eternally777 | What about the menu do you want to update? |
| 01:01.47 | alkis | remove some options |
| 01:01.49 | Kebinusan | seems to work fine eternally777 |
| 01:02.04 | Tekkub | custom bar? |
| 01:02.06 | Kebinusan | I see sense demons, it activates, I can switch between trackings |
| 01:03.06 | alkis | update the disabled flag of the options eternally777 |
| 01:03.07 | *** join/#wowace DaNET24030 (n=WinNT@dhcp-thornton228-177.sfsu.edu) |
| 01:03.09 | Kebinusan | errm, gimme a minute though Im on a bird and although the icon changes you cant activate tracking on a bird I think |
| 01:03.12 | [FH]Birdemani | tekkub: since I updated Bigwigs I am getting errors in duececommander, it doesnt work at all. It's saying lua:31 dewdrop2.0 "args" keys mus not include spaces "Custom Bars" is not appropriate |
| 01:03.47 | alkis | or can i just do that anywhere? |
| 01:05.02 | eternally777 | Yeah, I put "pre-emptive" icon switching in there, for a more timely response. |
| 01:07.05 | Tekkub | yea that's because BWCB is registering it's own chat command |
| 01:07.13 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=Xuerian@12-196-151-10.psknet.net) |
| 01:07.19 | Tekkub | someone beat vhaarr |
| 01:07.52 | eternally777 | alkis: Which of the following are you using: ":OnMenuRequest()" or "MyAddon.OnMenuRequest"? |
| 01:08.31 | [FH]Birdemani | i went to post an error on the forums, but the post there said "thats DC, not BW" |
| 01:08.53 | [FH]Birdemani | i dont even see an option for custom bar anyhow |
| 01:10.51 | eternally777 | alkis: You're using an AceOptions table, right? |
| 01:11.05 | alkis | yes eternally |
| 01:11.14 | alkis | AceOptions |
| 01:11.31 | alkis | so I do Addon.OnMenuRequest = my_options |
| 01:11.58 | alkis | can i set disabled = self:CheckCredentials() for example and it will updated automatically? |
| 01:12.12 | eternally777 | You would update your aceoptions table within the :OnDataUpdate() function, most likely. |
| 01:13.28 | eternally777 | You can, but it would be ' disabled = "CheckCredentials", ' |
| 01:13.28 | eternally777 | And then put a function somewhere "self:CheckCredentials()" |
| 01:13.28 | alkis | the docs say it can be a function too |
| 01:13.28 | alkis | ah that means anonymous function... |
| 01:13.28 | alkis | kk |
| 01:13.45 | eternally777 | :) |
| 01:13.45 | alkis | so this wil be checked everytime the menu is opened |
| 01:13.51 | eternally777 | Every time the data is updated |
| 01:13.54 | eternally777 | Not when it's opened |
| 01:14.02 | alkis | aha |
| 01:14.05 | eternally777 | Unless you make all your data update when it's opened... |
| 01:14.10 | eternally777 | But that would be pointless |
| 01:14.18 | alkis | so i should call UpdataData whenever the credentials change |
| 01:14.23 | eternally777 | Yes. |
| 01:14.24 | alkis | coolio |
| 01:14.28 | alkis | now it makes sense |
| 01:14.30 | alkis | thank you! |
| 01:14.42 | eternally777 | alkis: anytime |
| 01:19.20 | Arrowmaster | could somebody with SVN access change live 150 in BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_Nefcount.lua from self:TriggerEvents("BigWigs_ThrottleSync", "Drakonids", 0) to self:TriggerEvent("BigWigs_ThrottleSync", "Drakonids", 0) |
| 01:19.21 | alkis | one more question... |
| 01:19.21 | alkis | the same options are used for command line too |
| 01:19.22 | alkis | how do i make sure those are updated as well? |
| 01:19.32 | Arrowmaster | s/live/line/ |
| 01:19.59 | *** join/#wowace alkis_ (n=alkis@216.239.55.7) |
| 01:20.20 | eternally777 | alkis: that I haven't figured out. |
| 01:21.27 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r13153 10BigWigs/Extras/CustomBar.lua: |
| 01:21.27 | CIA-11 | BigWigs - should fix issues with custom bars module and DeuceCommander |
| 01:21.27 | CIA-11 | Note to vhaarr: modules don't get to have their own slash handler :P |
| 01:22.09 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r13154 10FuBar_PursueFu/FuBar_PursueFu.lua: |
| 01:22.09 | CIA-11 | PursueFu: |
| 01:22.09 | CIA-11 | * Added a line to check if player is trying to change abilities while on a taxi. |
| 01:23.39 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BCEA7.versanet.de) |
| 01:23.40 | alkis | eternally i don't see an api to do that in AceConsole... maybe i should just call RegisterChatCommand again? |
| 01:24.43 | eternally777 | That's what I'm not sure about :-\ |
| 01:24.50 | eternally777 | You can try it |
| 01:25.09 | eternally777 | I think it's just assumed that since you have a FuBar dewdrop menu, you don't need console commands :) |
| 01:25.49 | Xuerian | I use both console and dropdown commands. If your options table is say, "self.options", and you register that to your slash command, any modifications to that table should automatically be reflected in the slash options menu. |
| 01:26.06 | alkis | cool |
| 01:26.15 | alkis | thanks Xuerian |
| 01:28.18 | eternally777 | What does it mean when MyDebug crashes WoW when you try to access a specific table? |
| 01:29.46 | Kebinusan | wonder if there is any truth to this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=31015064&sid=1 |
| 01:31.53 | *** join/#wowace Caboose[FH] (n=Caboose9@cpe-66-8-166-76.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 01:31.54 | Industrial | Is there an addon that repeats selling messages to /2 in given intervals? |
| 01:32.22 | Kebinusan | god I hope not, but probably |
| 01:32.38 | Industrial | im sick of repeating myself - why not automate it |
| 01:33.07 | Gngsk | the old playermerchant used to do that, among other things |
| 01:33.53 | *** join/#wowace spg|gone (n=never@d51A49943.access.telenet.be) |
| 01:34.30 | Kebinusan | yeah trade dispenser has some neat options for stuff liek that I think |
| 01:36.03 | DrDre | <Kebinusan> wonder if there is any truth to this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=31015064&sid=1 |
| 01:36.07 | DrDre | gonna be fucked up if it is :( |
| 01:36.52 | kergoth | nullpuppy: ping |
| 01:37.22 | Xuerian | DrDre: If it is, I'm not healing anymore =| |
| 01:37.59 | CIA-11 | 03grimwald 07Grimwald * r13155 10SpellTimesLib/SpellTimesLib/SpellTimes-1.0/SpellTimes-1.0.lua: |
| 01:37.59 | CIA-11 | SpellTimesLib: |
| 01:37.59 | CIA-11 | * tweaked spell groups slighty |
| 01:37.59 | CIA-11 | * fixed a bug where nil was passed to TriggerEvent instead of the unit name |
| 01:38.40 | DrDre | they better change fights needing decursive then, its pretty hard to get all the debuffs off people sometimes in time even with decursive |
| 01:38.48 | dreyruugr | bah |
| 01:38.51 | dreyruugr | everyone says that |
| 01:39.30 | dreyruugr | I'd bet you eleventy-billion dollars that Blizzard's internal test team is required to defeat all raid encounters with the stock UI |
| 01:39.47 | CIA-11 | 03grimwald 07Grimwald * r13156 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/Optional/ (Buff.lua Cooldown.lua Timer.lua): |
| 01:39.47 | CIA-11 | oRA2_Buff: |
| 01:39.47 | CIA-11 | * adjusted width of timer bar frame title |
| 01:39.47 | CIA-11 | * tweaked title strings for buffs and cooldowns |
| 01:39.47 | CIA-11 | * added (ungrouped) buffs back to display |
| 01:39.48 | DrDre | yes with uber gear |
| 01:40.05 | DrDre | what bout guilds who are just getting into MC with blue/lil bit of epics fighting luci? |
| 01:40.06 | dreyruugr | If it takes uber gear then it takes uber gear |
| 01:40.10 | Kebinusan | dreyruugr, after fighting some released raid content, I can tell you that I dont think they even fully play test them |
| 01:40.11 | DrDre | ever had to do that :x ? |
| 01:40.32 | dreyruugr | DrDre: my guild spent something like 2-3 months on Luci |
| 01:40.37 | dreyruugr | So yes |
| 01:41.05 | dreyruugr | But I think that's kind of the point |
| 01:41.37 | dreyruugr | If Boss 3 is really hard, and you keep trying him, you'll be gearing up with loot from bosses 1 and 2 week you try |
| 01:41.58 | dreyruugr | each week that is |
| 01:42.06 | Xuerian | Personally, I hate the idea, though I believe it's actually going to happen. It really, reallllllly pisses me off that they're doing it. |
| 01:42.13 | dreyruugr | what idea? |
| 01:42.19 | dreyruugr | no more decursive? |
| 01:42.24 | Xuerian | No. |
| 01:42.27 | Xuerian | I can live without decursive. |
| 01:42.33 | DrDre | its going to break more than decursive |
| 01:42.35 | Xuerian | Click-casting is what I rely on. |
| 01:43.03 | Xuerian | Buttons are a counter-intuitive interface for immediate reactions in the first place |
| 01:43.08 | dreyruugr | I'm confident that anything that doesn't need to be removed won't be |
| 01:43.14 | Xuerian | When was the last time you EVER clicked a button during combat in a FPS? |
| 01:43.34 | dreyruugr | I've never played an FPS with a cursor to click with :) |
| 01:43.38 | DrDre | I jus dont see why they are so hell bent on blocking decursive, the ppl who bitch about it for PvP are retarded, decursive barely helps shit in pvp, the fucking pvpers make it harder on PvErs |
| 01:43.46 | Industrial | Xuerian: one doesnt click buttons |
| 01:43.48 | DrDre | and thats why im playing FFXI >:O |
| 01:43.51 | Industrial | Xuerian: one presses keyboard keys |
| 01:43.56 | Xuerian | That's my point. |
| 01:44.01 | Industrial | wich is basically the same as clicking |
| 01:44.18 | dreyruugr | DrDre: Because it automates the game, and trivializes the content |
| 01:44.25 | Industrial | because with click casting you also need to know what is on what button |
| 01:44.39 | Xuerian | And Having to press more than one key at at time (Shift+ctrl+6 to cast rank 4 healing touch, for example), is .. retarded |
| 01:44.40 | Industrial | it just also selects a target |
| 01:44.41 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:45.06 | alkis | eternally it looks like i don't need to call UpdateData to get the menu updated |
| 01:45.10 | Industrial | no click casting doesnt mean you cant use an addon that selects the right spell for you |
| 01:45.22 | Industrial | (if thats what you want) |
| 01:45.23 | alkis | so it happens automatically for both console and ui |
| 01:45.55 | Industrial | but yeah click casting owns :P |
| 01:46.41 | Xuerian | Really, I hate healing without click-casting as it is, Industrial. It's fully a personal opinion, but damnit I'm not healing another sorry raidmember's bleeding behind if they remove it, feral all the way! >_< |
| 01:47.59 | dreyruugr | Blizzard want's smarter players, not smarter buttons. As they've said :) |
| 01:48.15 | Kaelten | No click casting? |
| 01:48.21 | Kaelten | who said that? |
| 01:48.27 | dreyruugr | Kaelten: rumors |
| 01:48.37 | dreyruugr | Random person on the wow forums with no backup data |
| 01:48.54 | Kaelten | hrm. I wouldn't put much stock in it till blizz says it |
| 01:51.10 | Industrial | hmm |
| 01:51.18 | Industrial | the ah window needs sorting by buyout price |
| 01:51.22 | Industrial | by default |
| 01:51.23 | SH|Shabador | !info FuBar_PursueFu |
| 01:51.24 | Industrial | :< |
| 01:52.32 | *** join/#wowace Rophy (n=Miranda@61-225-13-144.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 01:52.44 | Industrial | Whats so good about a krol blade for it to go for 300+g on the AH |
| 01:53.24 | Xuerian | It's purple and shiny? |
| 01:53.36 | Industrial | ;\ |
| 01:54.46 | nullpuppy | pong |
| 01:55.44 | Plorkyeran | It's the best BoE SS weapon in the game |
| 01:55.48 | Plorkyeran | Although not by much |
| 01:56.13 | *** join/#wowace vid` (i=vid@c-68-36-197-141.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 01:59.38 | Plorkyeran | Actually, killing lua's ability to cast spells would explain why they're letting you bind keys directly to spells |
| 01:59.54 | *** join/#wowace Slayman (i=Slayman@c150028.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 02:00.17 | kergoth | nullpuppy: our guild just got a ton of the old guys from GuG |
| 02:00.23 | Slayman | Here i am back again |
| 02:00.27 | kergoth | nullpuppy: traxz, oarrion, mcmahand, beerusa |
| 02:00.28 | kergoth | nullpuppy: :) |
| 02:00.33 | Slayman | i know no one missed me, but i don't care"! |
| 02:00.37 | kergoth | :P |
| 02:01.01 | nullpuppy | w00t ;) |
| 02:01.09 | nullpuppy | watching south park |
| 02:01.41 | Slayman | someone should create some sort of an "Item Alt clicking" Mod like that part of CT_Mail used to work. |
| 02:04.50 | *** join/#wowace Rophy2 (n=Miranda@61-225-13-144.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 02:06.30 | alkis | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.58 | kergoth | nullpuppy: you're welcome to come along, we're headin to ubrs, 7 people so far, if you're up for it :) |
| 02:07.21 | alkis | kergoth go with 6, it is more fun that way |
| 02:07.22 | nullpuppy | k, 10mins away from end of south park |
| 02:07.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:07.57 | *** join/#wowace Sole_ (n=no@203-173-158-242.bliink.ihug.co.nz) |
| 02:08.00 | Sole_ | hai |
| 02:09.18 | Xuerian | Oy. |
| 02:10.09 | Slayman | I have the free selection what softcore porn i want to watch in public TV, u gotta love germany :D |
| 02:10.33 | Xuerian | Lucky bastard. |
| 02:10.56 | Sole_ | lol |
| 02:11.15 | Slayman | i love my country, and not just because or naked women in TV :D |
| 02:15.52 | *** join/#wowace [1]Kebinusan (i=Kebinusa@adsl-68-74-136-200.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 02:21.15 | Slayman | anyone of you got a site where i can find merely complete databases for Gatherer ? |
| 02:21.25 | nullpuppy | kergoth: still room for UBRS? |
| 02:21.32 | [1]Kebinusan | yeah slayman |
| 02:21.47 | Slayman | would you tell 'em to me too? |
| 02:22.19 | kebinusan | http://gather.reet.org/ |
| 02:23.14 | kergoth | nullpuppy: yeah |
| 02:23.29 | *** join/#wowace MvA|Slayman (i=Slayman@c207201.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 02:24.12 | nullpuppy | k, almost in |
| 02:26.24 | *** join/#wowace Neebler (n=bum@adsl-66-122-185-241.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 02:32.01 | eternally777 | Hey, how can I find out which kid in my raid has his BigWigs broadcasting turned on? |
| 02:32.02 | Sole_ | heh now comes the fun task of splitting up the HostelBar spellsDB into 3 seperate tables |
| 02:32.37 | Neebler | http://neebler.tetro.net/sapphiron.jpg |
| 02:32.40 | Neebler | woot first time seeing him |
| 02:33.22 | eternally777 | grats :) |
| 02:33.49 | eternally777 | vhaar, I know you've gotta be here :) |
| 02:33.57 | mjc | nice color neeb |
| 02:34.00 | mjc | what color is it |
| 02:34.10 | Neebler | sea foam blue |
| 02:34.14 | Neebler | half green half blue |
| 02:34.30 | mjc | I mean |
| 02:34.32 | mjc | RGB value |
| 02:34.50 | Xuerian | 0, .5, .5? o_0 |
| 02:35.16 | Neebler | yes |
| 02:35.47 | mjc | shrug, trying |
| 02:35.53 | Neebler | http://neebler.tetro.net/color.jpg |
| 02:35.54 | Neebler | more visable |
| 02:36.23 | mjc | what's overrated |
| 02:36.32 | Neebler | a guild on the black dragonflight server |
| 02:36.37 | mjc | ah |
| 02:36.38 | mjc | haha |
| 02:36.39 | Neebler | www.overratedguild.com |
| 02:37.25 | nullpuppy | kergoth: http://kergoth.com/svn/wow/trunk/KergWOW <-- thats the right path right? |
| 02:37.58 | kergoth | yeah.. let me make sure everything is upstream, kergoth.com went down for a bit |
| 02:38.04 | nullpuppy | k |
| 02:38.11 | kergoth | okay, the switch to bagnon wasnt upstream yet, just local |
| 02:38.12 | nullpuppy | i don't see bagnon here |
| 02:38.16 | kergoth | now its up |
| 02:38.16 | nullpuppy | ah, ok ;) |
| 02:38.21 | nullpuppy | k |
| 02:38.25 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:38.53 | Tekkub | ugh |
| 02:38.55 | eternally777 | Hmm |
| 02:39.05 | eternally777 | Isn't that the server that that hunter transferred to? |
| 02:39.07 | eternally777 | Avatar? |
| 02:39.09 | Tekkub | the expansion needs to come out already so I can raid with 25-mans |
| 02:39.09 | *** join/#wowace Nightdew (n=nightdew@c-69-241-14-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 02:39.11 | mjc | Neebler: sidebarcombatlog ? |
| 02:39.18 | mjc | the "suffer" thing |
| 02:39.21 | Neebler | thats hitsmode |
| 02:39.25 | mjc | ah |
| 02:39.30 | Neebler | couldn't get simple combatlog configured to show dots |
| 02:39.33 | Neebler | so I went back to hitsmode |
| 02:39.47 | Xuerian | 25-mans.... Raids I'll actually be able to attend... Win. |
| 02:39.50 | Neebler | eternally777: yes rofl. he was my raid leader for a while |
| 02:39.55 | Neebler | why is he so famous |
| 02:40.02 | mjc | ah you have to /rl to get oskin to apply colors |
| 02:40.03 | Nightdew | ever since in installed mobhealth3 .. im just getting blizzard_combattext errors.. attempt to call global 'max' |
| 02:40.08 | Nightdew | anyone have any idea? |
| 02:40.12 | [FH]Birdemani | eternally777: yes, he moved here for a bit |
| 02:40.17 | Xuerian | Works fine for me, Nightdew, no clue |
| 02:40.18 | Neebler | if i'd of known about his reputation before transferring there I wouldn't of joined his guild |
| 02:40.39 | *** join/#wowace iSynic (n=iSynic@68-115-97-76.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 02:40.44 | mjc | Nightdew: works fine here |
| 02:40.53 | eternally777 | [FH]Birdemani: For a bit? |
| 02:41.06 | mjc | kergoth: svkco.py still tries to export to ./local |
| 02:41.09 | notMusic | Famous for being a cock :P |
| 02:41.13 | mjc | kergoth: I ended up just symlinking addons -> locall |
| 02:41.25 | kergoth | hahah |
| 02:41.28 | Neebler | well his reputation of being a cock is a bit of an understatement |
| 02:41.30 | kergoth | i'll look at it after i finish this ubrs |
| 02:41.32 | notMusic | And I think he ebayed his hunter |
| 02:41.35 | Neebler | its like having hitler leading the raid |
| 02:41.37 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 02:41.37 | CIA-11 | 03bhattu * r13157 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua: Chronometer: Cache combo points early so we don't lose them, and chop half a second off of delayed timers to make them more accurate. |
| 02:41.38 | notMusic | Yeah |
| 02:41.51 | kergoth | i hope that means he's fixing the stun timers |
| 02:42.00 | notMusic | He used to blacklist people from 10-15 mans back in Warsong, when there were lik 30 60s total |
| 02:42.10 | [FH]Birdemani | avatar sold his hunter got a warrior, now he has another warrior that no one knows and he is trying to get into a guild |
| 02:42.12 | [FH]Birdemani | so gg |
| 02:42.13 | notMusic | like* |
| 02:42.45 | eternally777 | << He used to be my raid leader |
| 02:42.54 | [FH]Birdemani | he tried to get into our guild |
| 02:43.16 | iSynic | Ugg... So what does everybody think about the big talk going around about Click Casting totally being removed for BC. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=31015064&sid=1 |
| 02:43.19 | eternally777 | Back on Warsong. I knew him when he tanked nefarian :) |
| 02:43.23 | iSynic | So depressed if I can't use Clique anymore in BC |
| 02:43.31 | [FH]Birdemani | why do they want to remove it? |
| 02:43.41 | iSynic | I'd love to know the answer to that question |
| 02:43.48 | iSynic | Namely to nerf Decursive/Detox I assume |
| 02:44.05 | Xuerian | iSynic: It seems like something blizzard would want to do, but their new macros/slash commands kindof go against the logic |
| 02:44.11 | [FH]Birdemani | how would clique nerf be related to detox? i just hotkey that |
| 02:44.15 | notMusic | You were in CH then? |
| 02:44.33 | [FH]Birdemani | no I have been in FH for quite some time, like 1.5 year or something |
| 02:44.40 | Xuerian | Seeing as the slash commands can cast any spell without it being slotted... |
| 02:44.56 | notMusic | No, I meant eternally777 :P |
| 02:45.06 | iSynic | Because of the broad nature of the nerf. 'Basically, you will no longer be able to UseAction() or CastSpell*() of any kind in Lua.' |
| 02:45.10 | eternally777 | No, wasn't in at th etime |
| 02:45.21 | notMusic | Ahh |
| 02:45.26 | eternally777 | Was pretty close, with a lot of them |
| 02:45.36 | eternally777 | Got in when they transferred to Gurubashi |
| 02:45.40 | notMusic | I left from Warsong->Bonechewer on the first free transfer :p |
| 02:45.57 | notMusic | Tried to keep up with Warsong but it has so much drama |
| 02:45.58 | eternally777 | In Forceful Entry now, what's left of CP |
| 02:45.58 | Kaelten | Broad nature of what nurf? |
| 02:47.59 | Kaelten | Guys please lets not repeat idle rumors. |
| 02:48.05 | Kaelten | Its not helpful or productive |
| 02:49.32 | Kaelten | heh, anyone actually seen iSynic before? |
| 02:49.57 | Xuerian | Nope :P |
| 02:50.03 | [FH]Birdemani | wow, that click to heal change is gonna suck if its real |
| 02:50.19 | Kaelten | lol, I find it funny that as soon as we ask no idle rumors he leaves |
| 02:50.21 | Sole_ | noep |
| 02:51.53 | Kaelten | guys do me a favor and lets keep the rumor mill away from us here |
| 02:52.17 | Xuerian | Can I keep my flaming cursor stick? |
| 02:52.31 | Kaelten | as long as you beat rumor mongers over the head with it |
| 02:52.46 | [FH]Birdemani | TBC rumor mill? |
| 02:52.58 | Kaelten | TBC? if you mean the expansion stuff |
| 02:53.04 | Kaelten | ya |
| 02:53.08 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:53.10 | alkis | are there any limits on how many msgs/sec you can send through the addon channel? |
| 02:53.15 | [FH]Birdemani | ok |
| 02:53.25 | Kaelten | alkis it can cause disconnect |
| 02:53.33 | alkis | ouch... |
| 02:53.36 | Kaelten | alkis AceComm uses a throttle to stop that from happening though |
| 02:53.40 | alkis | does AceComm handle it? |
| 02:53.42 | alkis | nice |
| 02:54.48 | Kaelten | admins, please feel free to temp kick anyone who comes in trying to stir shit up about expansion changes that no one really knows about. But ask them to stop first. |
| 02:55.00 | mjc | downing nef |
| 02:55.12 | *** join/#wowace dreyruugr_ (n=chatzill@68-171-44-192.vnnyca.adelphia.net) |
| 02:55.12 | alkis | i am wondering what would be best.... sync through the channel or sync through an external place like a website? |
| 02:55.36 | eternally777 | Will do Kael |
| 02:55.41 | Kaelten | alkis problem with the channel is having reliabile propogation on the good side it doesn't involve an external data source |
| 02:56.16 | alkis | yeah but what about syncing raid logs for dkp bookkeeping |
| 02:56.35 | [FH]Birdemani | kael - you know a lot of us will be in TBC in the next week or two |
| 02:56.53 | [FH]Birdemani | so hopefully some truths come out |
| 02:56.57 | [FH]Birdemani | which leads me to this |
| 02:57.10 | Kaelten | [FH]Birdemani: and even then we're likely to be under a NDA until it gets closer to release |
| 02:57.14 | [FH]Birdemani | since it will be 5.1 in TBC, will that break all my mods by default? |
| 02:57.17 | Kaelten | so we couldn't talk about it here anyway |
| 02:57.29 | Plorkyeran | It's unlikely beta will be NDA'd |
| 02:57.34 | [FH]Birdemani | beta wont be NDA |
| 02:57.47 | Kaelten | never know. early beta for wow was nda |
| 02:57.48 | *** join/#wowace jesmus (n=Chris@24-217-124-111.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 02:57.56 | Plorkyeran | beta never was |
| 02:57.58 | ckknight | [FH]Birdemani, I have fixed many mods for lua 5.1 |
| 02:58.17 | Kaelten | but anywho a few things did break between 5.0 and 5.1 |
| 02:58.20 | Plorkyeran | the alpha nda dropped when beta invites started going out |
| 02:58.34 | [FH]Birdemani | ckknight: would a plugin help the rest? |
| 02:58.35 | Kaelten | primariyl for k,v in table do |
| 02:58.40 | Xuerian | [FH]Birdemani: If coded to recent standards, mods won't have a problem with 5.1, some of us have paid attention to the announced changes and made our mods compatable with future versions :) |
| 02:59.05 | [FH]Birdemani | the only one I officially knew would work is nurfed UI |
| 02:59.05 | Kaelten | has to be for k,v in ipairs(table) do |
| 02:59.07 | ckknight | if anybody somehow can throw a beta account my way, I'd appreciate it, and I'd fix as many addons as I can, thus far, I've been drycoding the 5.1 changes, which has caused issues. |
| 02:59.40 | ckknight | just, so y'all know |
| 02:59.40 | Xuerian | [FH]Birdemani: Hard to know officially what ones work. This blanket NDA gets in the way, and all |
| 02:59.47 | JJacobsson | one way to get in the beta ckknight ;) |
| 02:59.55 | ckknight | JJacobsson, hrm? |
| 03:00.00 | [FH]Birdemani | well, a good portion of the nurfed guys are in alpha and they have been testing it there |
| 03:00.12 | *** join/#wowace Beladona (n=Beladona@cpe-72-185-210-159.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 03:00.21 | Kaelten | how do you know that the nurfed guys are in the alpha? |
| 03:00.27 | [FH]Birdemani | :) |
| 03:01.03 | JJacobsson | ckknight: useing the "it will be good for you" argument ;) |
| 03:01.29 | Xuerian | JJacobsson: It's the truth :P |
| 03:01.44 | Nightdew | ~seen neronix |
| 03:01.51 | purl | neronix <i=neronix@user-544027d4.l6.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 3h 43m 16s ago, saying: 'if you want to sort the table by key, you could table.insert all the keys into a temp table, sort that and then iterate that to sort the original'. |
| 03:01.51 | ckknight | yea, I've been making changes to my and other addons to prepare |
| 03:01.51 | ckknight | but it's been hard |
| 03:01.53 | JJacobsson | but i guess its only funny at 5am whit a daughter that wont sleep.... |
| 03:02.15 | Kaelten | ~seen pprovost |
| 03:02.16 | purl | pprovost <n=PProvost@pool-71-112-40-76.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21h 31m 14s ago, saying: 'Don't have the revision in the list yet... waiting for clad to add a fancier index file for me, but this is much better.'. |
| 03:02.17 | Nightdew | Nobody here has problems with MobHealth3 ? |
| 03:02.33 | Xuerian | Can't say much would be funny at that point, JJacobsson |
| 03:02.54 | JJacobsson | Xuerian: you would be amazed |
| 03:03.21 | JJacobsson | silence for instance, can be hilarious! ;) |
| 03:04.12 | *** part/#wowace jesmus (n=Chris@24-217-124-111.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:04.13 | *** join/#wowace jesmus (n=Chris@24-217-124-111.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:04.18 | *** part/#wowace jesmus (n=Chris@24-217-124-111.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 03:04.46 | [FH]Birdemani | I'm noticing with the latest changes to agUF that the raid frames and the raid tab do NOT reset when you leave the raid |
| 03:04.57 | [FH]Birdemani | ive tested it three times tonight |
| 03:05.37 | [FH]Birdemani | plus, once you join a new raid, it will keep over some items from the previous raid. For example, when I started a raid I still had my raid icon |
| 03:07.40 | Kemayo | Mikma: Did the change I made stop the ag_UF problems you were having with portraits in a party? |
| 03:10.11 | [FH]Birdemani | Can I make a request on the Big Wig Custom bars? A way to clear them out once you put it up |
| 03:10.53 | [FH]Birdemani | I dont need to know that my raid leader pizza is done in 20 min |
| 03:11.42 | mjc | ckknight: around? |
| 03:18.01 | CIA-11 | 03gamefaq * r13158 10Squishy/localization.deDE.lua: Squishy - Updated deDE Translation |
| 03:18.51 | mjc | anyone that's messed with dewdroplib around? I would like it to allow you to input a value manually for the slider bars |
| 03:18.54 | *** part/#wowace Beladona (n=Beladona@cpe-72-185-210-159.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 03:19.09 | mjc | it's hard to pick '50' instead of '51' or '49' out of a 100 interval slider |
| 03:19.51 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-1b9b72d5.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 03:21.18 | Gamefaq | this problem with the sliders is not in all addons some have some not |
| 03:23.05 | *** join/#wowace Tem_ (n=tardmrr@ip68-227-128-41.br.br.cox.net) |
| 03:23.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem_] by ChanServ |
| 03:38.42 | kebinusan | [Ammo], seems the ora2 ready check is a bit weird http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7787/readyng0.jpg |
| 03:43.11 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower_ (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 03:44.09 | *** join/#wowace Rophy (n=Miranda@61-225-13-144.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 03:51.11 | eternally777 | How do I mix a library into my addon only if the other library is already a mixin for another addon? |
| 04:02.33 | Kemayo | Do you care whether something else is actually using it, or do you just want to be able to take advantage of it without bundling it yourself? |
| 04:06.06 | eternally777 | I want to use AceDebug, and I know I have it loaded, but I don't want to worry about taking all th debug messages out when I'm done debugging, and I don't want to ahve to include it in th epackage |
| 04:07.34 | kebinusan | does sraidframes have an option to recolor or fade units out of range? |
| 04:10.46 | mjc | no idea. never used them |
| 04:11.08 | kebinusan | have to ask Saroz he'd know :-) |
| 04:38.05 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower_ (n=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 04:44.30 | *** join/#wowace broadcast_ (i=broadcas@r201-217-158-117.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 04:53.49 | eternally777 | G'night all |
| 04:54.24 | Azurewrath | ~seen bhattu |
| 04:54.50 | purl | i haven't seen 'bhattu', Azurewrath |
| 04:55.00 | Azurewrath | ~seen sole |
| 04:55.04 | purl | sole <n=no@203-173-158-242.bliink.ihug.co.nz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 22h 14m 24s ago, saying: 'lacindas: no it isnt'. |
| 04:56.09 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1459.msg49548;topicseen#msg49548 |
| 04:56.12 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.19 | FryGuy | wow there's a gg timer on 4H? :/ |
| 04:56.47 | kebinusan | gg timer? |
| 04:56.53 | [FH]Birdemani | yes |
| 04:57.44 | FryGuy | heh you guys finally got 4H down after how many repair bots bird? |
| 04:58.15 | FryGuy | luckily my strategy worked for us or we would've had the same fate.. we had a bad strategy :( |
| 04:58.24 | FryGuy | only spent 1 day on a bad one |
| 04:58.35 | [FH]Birdemani | it was more attendance than anything else |
| 04:58.53 | FryGuy | 38 |
| 04:58.56 | FryGuy | that's insane :/ |
| 04:59.07 | FryGuy | unless fiddler is a lying paladin :p |
| 04:59.12 | [FH]Birdemani | we've had a few quit due to RL lately |
| 04:59.18 | FryGuy | ya i phased out of surge too |
| 04:59.21 | [FH]Birdemani | ops, pancakes, beez and a few others |
| 04:59.24 | [FH]Birdemani | phased out? |
| 04:59.31 | FryGuy | i'm sitting out for a while |
| 04:59.55 | FryGuy | school is whooping me :( |
| 05:00.12 | FryGuy | it sucks missing tuesday & thursday raids |
| 05:00.16 | [FH]Birdemani | did the same to our tanks, we didnt have 8 online all the time until last week |
| 05:00.18 | FryGuy | when that's like 50% of the raids |
| 05:00.30 | FryGuy | we had to pull alts out |
| 05:00.38 | FryGuy | you could've had fagtank :p |
| 05:00.50 | [FH]Birdemani | yea |
| 05:00.56 | FryGuy | er wait he left |
| 05:00.59 | FryGuy | didn't transfer |
| 05:08.24 | kebinusan | ~comfort Tekkub |
| 05:08.31 | purl | There, there, Tekkub. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 05:14.09 | Mikma | Tekkub: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1459.msg49555#msg49555 |
| 05:19.31 | Xuerian | What, is the guy making rounds or something? |
| 05:20.02 | Xuerian | oh. same thread. /shuts up. |
| 05:20.15 | Xuerian | WTB [Dreamless Sleep Potion] |
| 05:20.28 | Tekkub | :P |
| 05:21.20 | Tekkub | I'M A COW! MOOOOOOO! |
| 05:32.17 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-132-228-98.range86-132.btcentralplus.com) |
| 05:41.32 | kebinusan | heh http://www.vampireposers.com/albums/userpics/10001/family_planning.jpg |
| 05:41.57 | *** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=Miranda@83.145.59.23) |
| 05:42.31 | *** join/#wowace Silv (n=Silvio@adsl-156-53-202.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:47.13 | [Ammo] | Kebinusan: I don't have that problem with the readycheck? boggle |
| 05:47.51 | [Ammo] | I could make it fit better with some width and height settings probably |
| 05:49.26 | kebinusan | yeah, I was going to check a bit and see if I could figure it out, I think thats similar to the bar dimensions I had on Chronometer at the time which kinda struck me as odd |
| 05:49.33 | *** join/#wowace PProvost (n=PProvost@pool-71-112-34-181.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 05:52.28 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-168-42.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 05:54.30 | Mikma | Tekkub: look i can roleplay too! MOOOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DOH MOOOOOOOOOO! |
| 05:55.45 | kebinusan | [Ammo], The other thing is could you bump up the strata to dialog? |
| 05:55.55 | [Ammo] | I could |
| 05:56.02 | kebinusan | I guess I could lower metamap to where it should be |
| 05:56.05 | kebinusan | :-) |
| 05:56.07 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 05:56.12 | kebinusan | err metahud |
| 05:56.19 | [Ammo] | but not right now though |
| 05:56.26 | [Ammo] | driving lessons in 4 mins |
| 05:56.31 | [Ammo] | at bloody 8am |
| 05:56.39 | [Ammo] | I should have never agreed to it |
| 05:56.45 | kebinusan | ewww thats too early |
| 05:56.48 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 05:56.53 | [Ammo] | and because I was late getting out of bed |
| 05:56.54 | kebinusan | dont hit a pedestrian |
| 05:56.58 | [Ammo] | I haven't had my coffee yet |
| 05:57.07 | [Ammo] | so it's going to be a grumpy ride |
| 05:59.09 | PProvost | Mikma, I just responded in forums to that Pagemaster complaint. |
| 05:59.18 | PProvost | I don't think there is anything I can do |
| 05:59.28 | *** join/#wowace Chippen|TaE (n=thelones@host-83-166-15-67.hernonet.se) |
| 05:59.29 | Mikma | PProvost: goodie. i have no idea wtf the users are whining |
| 05:59.50 | PProvost | The guy using two bar mods thinks he will get twice as many bars. |
| 05:59.53 | PProvost | Nice try dude. |
| 06:01.01 | [Ammo] | they usually whinge because they can |
| 06:01.07 | Mikma | PProvost: PProvost didn't he say that he only used flexbar to show the "wrong" page he gets |
| 06:01.31 | PProvost | He's making assumptions about the relationship between pages and bars. |
| 06:02.14 | Mikma | PProvost: to be honest i haven't even thinked it like that before :) you are correct about what you said, it doesn't swap bars, it swaps pages |
| 06:02.29 | PProvost | Right |
| 06:02.30 | Mikma | i think we should make it clear to all users someway |
| 06:02.57 | PProvost | Yeah, let's rename it to "Bartender2_ThisThingSwapsPagesAndNotBars" |
| 06:03.03 | PProvost | But you are right |
| 06:03.13 | Mikma | PProvost: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bartender2_Pagemaster |
| 06:03.14 | PProvost | We both know that this needs to be rewritten |
| 06:03.27 | Mikma | well not rewritten actually |
| 06:03.37 | Mikma | just add features and bitchslap stupid users to russia |
| 06:03.58 | PProvost | I dunno... I'm still trying to think about what it should do. |
| 06:04.03 | PProvost | I happen to like it out of the box. |
| 06:04.09 | Mikma | Tekkub: what's wrong with the links in http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bartender2_Pagemaster |
| 06:04.37 | Mikma | well since you have an idea what to do, do what you like to pagemaster :D |
| 06:04.44 | PProvost | haha |
| 06:04.47 | Mikma | i'm still using it no matter what you do |
| 06:04.51 | PProvost | I like it the way it is. |
| 06:05.02 | PProvost | I don't change the pages. |
| 06:05.05 | Mikma | i even switched to Bartender2_Circled because i like Serenity skin |
| 06:05.13 | PProvost | I just turn of the Friendly taget page |
| 06:05.17 | PProvost | haha |
| 06:05.18 | Mikma | yeah i did the same |
| 06:05.27 | PProvost | Works great on my Druid |
| 06:05.35 | PProvost | ANywhoo... just wanted to check in. |
| 06:05.36 | PProvost | Gotta run |
| 06:05.38 | PProvost | Night all |
| 06:05.40 | Mikma | dreamlayout needs to be rewritten but i don't have interest :D |
| 06:05.47 | Mikma | night night |
| 06:05.51 | PProvost | Yeah, it is in a bit of trouble I think. |
| 06:05.52 | PProvost | Adios |
| 06:11.37 | Laricwork_ | hmm pagemaster needs the hunterswap built in or work together with hunterswapper :P |
| 06:13.33 | Mikma | somehow i got a weird fetish of trying IceHUD |
| 06:13.39 | Mikma | can someone slap me please? |
| 06:14.12 | Nickenyfiken | my wow account subscription has expired *sob* |
| 06:14.20 | Nickenyfiken | promised my gf not to play in a month |
| 06:14.27 | Mikma | owned. |
| 06:14.29 | Mikma | change fg |
| 06:14.35 | Mikma | s/fg/gf/ |
| 06:14.45 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 06:15.10 | Grey|away | im sorry, my girlfriend has to live with my addiction |
| 06:15.14 | Grey|away | :P |
| 06:15.22 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-154-219.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:15.29 | Mikma | Grey|away: my wife started to play 1 week after me.. and this all happened in Open Beta |
| 06:15.45 | Nickenyfiken | my gf used to play too but got too addiced hehe |
| 06:15.53 | Mikma | i started to play at the same day OB starte |
| 06:16.14 | oxman | I started with the korean beta |
| 06:16.20 | Nickenyfiken | i played on private server before the game went OB :-P |
| 06:16.46 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (i=Elkano@pool010.vpn.uni-saarland.de) |
| 06:16.59 | Nickenyfiken | i remember there was a bunch of boars at troll/orc start location you could kill |
| 06:17.13 | Nickenyfiken | no spell/abilities or quests |
| 06:17.55 | Thiana | ~seen Iceroth |
| 06:18.07 | purl | iceroth is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 231 messages. Is idling for 16h 7m 52s, last said: 'i don't see the module in it'. |
| 06:18.49 | *** join/#wowace hiflyer (n=icechat5@66.217.181.62.in-addr.dgcsystems.net) |
| 06:19.36 | Mikma | Tekkub: wake up and fix the wiki :( |
| 06:19.59 | Greywind | err whats wrong with the wiki? |
| 06:20.14 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bartender2_Pagemaster |
| 06:20.19 | Mikma | look at the links in toc info |
| 06:20.35 | Mikma | seems like _ fucks it up |
| 06:21.32 | Greywind | umm i dont see anything wrong and everything is working fine for me |
| 06:22.04 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:22.11 | Mikma | pointing to: http://www.wowace.com/files/index.php?path=Bartender2 |
| 06:22.25 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:22.33 | Mikma | pointing to http://www.wowace.com/trac/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=status&verbose=1&summary=%7EBartender2 |
| 06:22.50 | Iceroth | Thiana, whaa? |
| 06:22.51 | Mikma | all the names of the link are incorrect and so are the links |
| 06:23.27 | Greywind | oh that |
| 06:23.35 | Greywind | ok nvm then |
| 06:31.50 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-156-34.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:33.46 | Laricwork_ | my wife is playing more wow than me := |
| 06:33.55 | Mikma | Laricwork_: same |
| 06:33.58 | Mikma | !trunk Bartender2_Pagemaster |
| 06:34.04 | SVNBot | The latest revision of Bartender2_Pagemaster is now zipped up at http://www.matts-hosting.com/addons/root/trunk/Bartender2_Pagemaster/ |
| 06:34.12 | Mikma | !toc Bartender2_Pagemaster |
| 06:34.18 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/Bartender2_Pagemaster |
| 06:34.27 | Laricwork_ | !toc AoFHeal |
| 06:34.30 | SVNBot | The TOC wiki entry has been updated -- http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/AoFHeal |
| 06:34.54 | Mikma | mm nope, didn't help at all |
| 06:35.06 | Mikma | the links are still fooked |
| 06:36.48 | *** join/#wowace _icetrain (n=icetrain@blackhole.se) |
| 06:41.35 | Mikma | what do you think if we'll start to use ## Notes: BT2 Pagemaster <- style in Bartender2 modules? |
| 06:42.06 | Mikma | that means all the addons have a bigger chance of showing the -Ace2- after the name |
| 06:42.25 | *** join/#wowace packetlss (n=packetls@blackhole.se) |
| 06:42.48 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-168-245.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:51.37 | Tekkub | Mikma, |
| 06:51.38 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bartender2_Pagemaster&diff=9666&oldid=9664 |
| 06:51.57 | Tekkub | all mods with a space in the name need that change or their Infobox will go wiggy |
| 06:55.15 | *** join/#wowace snurre (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-42-253.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:55.56 | Mikma | Tekkub: thanks! that's a good info so i can fix the other addons now :) |
| 06:57.16 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (i=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-191.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 06:57.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 06:57.22 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-202-130.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:57.24 | Mikma | Tekkub: one more thing, this might be a firefox issue or not: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Bartender2 <- the download links are a huge blocks for some reason |
| 06:57.31 | Mikma | Tekkub: any idea what may cause it? |
| 06:58.35 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:58.59 | Mikma | ckknight: hi boss |
| 07:00.33 | Xuerian | heya ckknight |
| 07:01.46 | Machine_ | did you guys see the rumor that blizzard is disabling click casting in the expansion? |
| 07:01.53 | Mikma | Machine_: no. |
| 07:02.05 | *** join/#wowace grzesieq (n=grzesieq@irssi/user/grzesieq) |
| 07:02.20 | Machine_ | It appears that in Burning Crusade, Blizzard will be disabling all "click-to-cast" functionality in UI mods. (UI mods can no longer cast spells of their own accord during combat, even with a mouse click or button press.) |
| 07:02.26 | Machine_ | This effectively means that RDX's ability to cast spells on units from RDX windows will be severely curtailed or completely removed in the expansion. This will also effectively eliminate other click-to-cast or autocast mods like Decursive, Clique, et cetera. |
| 07:02.33 | Machine_ | from the author of rdx |
| 07:02.40 | [FH]Birdemani | actually |
| 07:02.43 | Machine_ | Cannot change key or mousebindings while in combat. This is done to prevent work arounds like |
| 07:02.46 | Machine_ | -You could just rebind the spell to the mouseclick before cast and rebind it to the window action after. This may require a double click instead of a single, but would probably still allow the casting of spells by clicking. |
| 07:02.50 | Neebler | he needs a good hard slap across the face |
| 07:02.55 | [FH]Birdemani | machine, he has bad info |
| 07:02.56 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=moonwolf@g173217.upc-g.chello.nl) |
| 07:02.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 07:03.00 | Machine_ | oh, rumormonger? |
| 07:03.07 | krka | where did you hear that rumor? |
| 07:03.20 | [FH]Birdemani | there are changes to it, but no one knows the extent. we will find out soon |
| 07:03.22 | ckknight | the unwashed masses are not supposed to know. |
| 07:03.35 | [FH]Birdemani | i talked to someone about it tonight, there are changes |
| 07:03.36 | Machine_ | from elitist jerks' forum quoted from rdx-raid.com |
| 07:03.48 | [FH]Birdemani | but he is wrong from part of what I was told |
| 07:03.52 | [FH]Birdemani | so, just leave it at that |
| 07:04.05 | [FH]Birdemani | clique will still work, decursive wont |
| 07:04.19 | Machine_ | i'd never heard anything about it and just wondered if it was common knowledge among ace developers |
| 07:04.40 | [FH]Birdemani | slouken will announce the changes eventually, just wait till its solidified |
| 07:04.44 | Fritti | it'll be an uproar anyway even if it's not changed to that extent |
| 07:04.49 | Fritti | any change is |
| 07:04.57 | krka | nah, everyone are blizzards bitches :P |
| 07:05.02 | [FH]Birdemani | the game is changing, nothing you can do about it but wait and see |
| 07:05.11 | Machine_ | won't be a problem on my blood elf loladin! i will only cleanse myself while i wield my massive 2h hammer doing awesome damage from within the safe haven of my bubble! |
| 07:05.30 | Mikma | well i don't give a rats ass actually :) i can live without clickcasting. i'll make a warrior. |
| 07:06.08 | Mikma | anyone here uses BT2 + Bartender2Fu ? |
| 07:06.13 | ckknight | mmm... the unwashed masses are not supposed to know :-P |
| 07:06.19 | Machine_ | the death of click casting will cause many to reroll, no doubt. luckily my healing friends are to stubborn to add even one addon and mostly run vanilla wow |
| 07:06.30 | Machine_ | so they're not affected |
| 07:06.36 | Machine_ | Mikma: yes |
| 07:06.55 | krka | i for one welcome our vanillaplayering overloards |
| 07:06.58 | krka | lords |
| 07:06.59 | Machine_ | Mikma: bt2 + bt2 circled + bt2fu |
| 07:07.07 | Mikma | Machine_: can you do me a favor and take a screenshot of Bartender2Fu in action and put it with GOOD quality online. it will end up in the wikipage :) |
| 07:07.45 | Mikma | Health: http://www.wowace.com/mediawiki/images/5/50/Bartender2.jpg <- something like that. but i'll mod the full image after |
| 07:07.45 | Machine_ | Mikma: sure, if you can wait until i get home from work in 7 hours? |
| 07:07.51 | Mikma | Machine_: lol no actually, i will be able to do it myself in 3h :) |
| 07:08.05 | Machine_ | Machine_: that's what i figured ;) |
| 07:08.12 | Mikma | owned. |
| 07:08.46 | Mikma | anyone else using those 2 and able to take a screenshot now? :) |
| 07:12.33 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=niklas_r@81-229-155-229-o1124.telia.com) |
| 07:13.39 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@gw.apt.no) |
| 07:13.47 | Mikma | [Wobin]: haah australians own |
| 07:14.33 | ckknight | I'm contemplating changing Dewdrop so that submenus have an automatic header |
| 07:14.39 | Mikma | [Wobin]: there was some pedofil convicted in prison for 5 years... his house did accidentially burn down after he went't in prison and 40 people were there admiring the fire |
| 07:14.50 | Mikma | ckknight: is that good for us? :) |
| 07:14.57 | ckknight | probably. |
| 07:15.02 | ckknight | it'd make things a lot clearer |
| 07:15.05 | Mikma | neat. love ya |
| 07:15.10 | ckknight | know which menu you have open |
| 07:15.37 | *** join/#wowace Clovenhoof (n=klaas@212-100-176-88.adsl.easynet.be) |
| 07:16.19 | Laricwork_ | Mikma: http://ravenhillraiders.com/files/fu2bar.png |
| 07:16.39 | Mikma | Laricwork_: lovely! thanks :) |
| 07:17.41 | Mikma | Laricwork_: behold: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_Bartender2Fu |
| 07:18.22 | Mikma | Laricwork_: and i'm hosting the file now so you don't need to save it :) |
| 07:18.25 | Laricwork_ | eh.. there is no dreamlayout in that one :P |
| 07:18.37 | Laricwork_ | text needs adjusting |
| 07:18.40 | Mikma | Laricwork_: i'm not even sure is dreamlayout in fubar |
| 07:18.59 | Laricwork_ | no idea |
| 07:19.04 | Mikma | i think it's not :) |
| 07:19.06 | Laricwork_ | never tried it since i dont know what it does |
| 07:19.09 | Mikma | atleast i haven't put it in ;) |
| 07:19.18 | Mikma | oh you mean the title lol sorry |
| 07:20.17 | Laricwork_ | what controls if a fubar plugin gets the 'profile' part or not? |
| 07:20.26 | Laricwork_ | some seems to get it and others don't |
| 07:22.30 | Laricwork | it kinda bugs me as I want to control my profiles... most of the time i want diff profiles on each of my chars. |
| 07:25.43 | Laricwork | did you all go away? |
| 07:37.30 | [Ammo] | gotta love coworkers not being here yet |
| 07:37.41 | [Ammo] | I can play my Six Feet Under as loud as I want :) |
| 07:38.45 | steino_ | oO |
| 07:40.57 | [FH]Birdemani | quick question: will the Prat One Directory in branches be up to date with the latest commits? |
| 07:46.51 | [Ammo] | 'I can't control it! the dark side of my mind!' |
| 07:49.21 | oxman | whats the best way to scan the debuff on a target and stop the loop when no debuff ? |
| 07:49.51 | oxman | for 1,16 do a = UnitDebuff("target", i);if not a then i = 17;end;end ? |
| 07:51.39 | [Ammo] | oxman: SpecialEvents-Aura2.0 |
| 07:52.00 | [Ammo] | use it, love it, adore it |
| 07:52.33 | oxman | humm.. i don't want scan auro on an event ;/ |
| 07:52.38 | oxman | but on an UseAction |
| 07:52.39 | [Ammo] | you don't need to |
| 07:52.58 | [Ammo] | you can do: seea:UnitHasDebuff( "target" ) |
| 07:53.00 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 07:53.16 | [Ammo] | seea manages the debuffs for you and is used in more addnos |
| 07:53.20 | [Ammo] | embed etc :) |
| 07:53.26 | oxman | does it work with texture buff ? |
| 07:53.30 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 07:53.36 | [Ammo] | just read the docs |
| 07:54.55 | [Ammo] | time for some more plumbing in BigWigs |
| 07:55.18 | oxman | and the doc don't say something about texture |
| 07:55.51 | [Ammo] | it returns the debuff and texture |
| 07:56.06 | oxman | i've only the texture. |
| 08:08.39 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@85-125-221-75.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 08:12.52 | phyber | morning. |
| 08:13.28 | Galencia | indeed it is |
| 08:14.43 | Mikma | hi 2 u 2 |
| 08:14.52 | Mikma | i just made the last missing tests from this computer-course |
| 08:15.03 | Mikma | PowerPoint and multiplechoice questions |
| 08:15.21 | Mikma | atleast the last test was success... 11/12 correct heh |
| 08:15.32 | [Wobin] | rar |
| 08:15.35 | Galencia | you fail |
| 08:15.59 | Galencia | in other news aguf is a bit broken |
| 08:16.08 | *** join/#wowace [Wobin] (i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au) |
| 08:16.14 | Mikma | hi wobbly! |
| 08:16.45 | Industrial | wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 08:16.47 | Industrial | ding 52 |
| 08:16.53 | Industrial | no sleep, wow :P |
| 08:17.01 | Mikma | Industrial: ZOMG WTF! you playing a char over lvl20? |
| 08:17.14 | Industrial | ya and I got a party in hinterlands |
| 08:17.22 | Industrial | and i tanked with my now 52 warrior |
| 08:17.27 | Mikma | hinterlands is nice for horde |
| 08:17.38 | Industrial | and this leader said he does naxx and leads it and thinks im a very good tank |
| 08:17.40 | Mikma | lots, and lots of questions + 1 of the best fishingpoles in the game |
| 08:17.45 | *** join/#wowace Soltanis (i=Soltanis@81.168.16.197) |
| 08:17.51 | Industrial | o_O |
| 08:17.57 | Industrial | my first pve experience :o |
| 08:19.19 | Mikma | lawl. i still can't believe it. you. playing. lvl52... |
| 08:19.26 | Mikma | what server so i can come and gank youy |
| 08:19.26 | Industrial | ;P |
| 08:19.39 | Industrial | US |
| 08:19.40 | Industrial | :P |
| 08:19.44 | Industrial | pwnt |
| 08:19.45 | Industrial | rocl |
| 08:19.47 | Industrial | rofl* |
| 08:20.03 | Mikma | us? ok then hows your latency |
| 08:20.10 | Industrial | fine really |
| 08:20.11 | oxman | do you know a lib to look/find a spells in the actionbar ? |
| 08:21.36 | *** join/#wowace FryGuy- (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:21.52 | Mikma | babbles? |
| 08:23.35 | oxman | nop |
| 08:23.41 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@dynadsl-080-228-65-109.ewetel.net) |
| 08:23.54 | oxman | so i do without :) |
| 08:24.03 | oxman | wowwiki is down here and for you ? |
| 08:28.19 | *** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 08:28.22 | *** join/#wowace add\\Leialyn (n=unknown@p54B4DAD5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:29.40 | oxman | Do you think something like that is good : http://ace.pastey.net/1374 (in OnEnable) |
| 08:29.46 | oxman | no lots of ressource ? or wasted time ? |
| 08:29.54 | Mikma | yes |
| 08:30.11 | oxman | ok thanks |
| 08:31.15 | oxman | http://ace.pastey.net/1375 |
| 08:31.15 | oxman | :DD |
| 08:31.22 | Mikma | LUNCHBREAK! |
| 08:33.07 | steino_ | one hour left before lunch :< |
| 08:33.11 | steino_ | damn timezones |
| 08:35.32 | Neebler | VLC media player is turning out to be a must-have app. reading all of the new features with the latest patch, and the upcoming ones. mmm yea |
| 08:35.45 | Neebler | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.45 | Neebler | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:36.11 | Neebler | wewt |
| 08:44.39 | [FH]Birdemani | is there anyway to get a fubar texture that would match bantobar? |
| 08:46.09 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=Xuerian@12-196-151-45.psknet.net) |
| 08:46.49 | Neebler | yea. copy a banto texture into the fubar directory? |
| 08:47.34 | *** join/#wowace SH|Shabador (n=shabador@ti400720a080-5027.bb.online.no) |
| 08:48.12 | Neebler | backup the texture you use for fubar now - and then rename the bantobar texture file to the texture you're currently using |
| 08:48.20 | Neebler | or get a fubar texture addon |
| 08:50.37 | [FH]Birdemani | may ask you to walk me thru it on vent later neebs |
| 08:50.43 | Mikma | mm |
| 08:50.49 | Mikma | atleast the food was spicy |
| 08:53.24 | *** join/#wowace sergio (i=sp@unaffiliated/sergio) |
| 08:54.22 | Neebler | Loatheb was fun today, that was my first time doing it :D . I asked Stryfe and Avros about the fight and a quick rundown, but neither told me about the poison and the proximity of it when bandaging. So that got me killed the first time. |
| 08:54.36 | Neebler | Second time kalamity told me about the range of it. fixed that problem and breezed through it NP |
| 08:55.00 | Neebler | shes super helpful |
| 08:57.58 | Machine_ | pic? |
| 08:58.28 | Machine_ | oh wrong window |
| 08:59.00 | Machine_ | sigh, still no dev svn access |
| 09:01.07 | [Ammo] | what are you coding machine_ ? |
| 09:04.12 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2505.0#msg49601 |
| 09:06.05 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster` (i=Arrow@cpe-24-209-111-105.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 09:06.21 | Health | boring |
| 09:06.29 | [Ammo] | yo momma is boring |
| 09:06.39 | Mikma | [Ammo] is funny! |
| 09:06.45 | Health | You wish you knew! |
| 09:07.45 | [Ammo] | she was very passive last night |
| 09:09.00 | Mikma | [Ammo]: then turn the hoe over and drill her in the ass! |
| 09:09.08 | Mikma | that will keep the spark up |
| 09:09.32 | Machine_ | [Ammo]: it's just a few patches to addons or libraries in the svn that i'd rather maintain in a branch on the dev svn for ease of merging etc |
| 09:09.54 | Machine_ | [Ammo]: for now atleast. no point in reinventing the wheel and most ace addons are very good |
| 09:10.05 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:10.11 | [Ammo] | just asking :) |
| 09:10.22 | [Ammo] | because if it was something new and spiffy we need to know! |
| 09:10.27 | Machine_ | rofl |
| 09:12.05 | Machine_ | yeah, i've had some original ideas that i've started off on only to discover it's already been done by someone else. lots of times they're horrible hacks but i can't be arsed to rewrite since they're working(ish) |
| 09:12.29 | Neebler | Mikma: call me strange but I only use 1 chatframe for guild/party/raid/channels and I never seem to get spam or miss important messages. It's all about coloring and highlighting your own nickname |
| 09:12.51 | [Ammo] | it's all about BigWigs + BossBlock during raids :) |
| 09:12.53 | Mikma | Neebler: but i myself hate the raidchat/spam in my chatframe1 :P |
| 09:13.12 | Health | I have the healer's channel in a differente chatframe |
| 09:13.26 | Neebler | bigwigs is a must-have addon |
| 09:13.29 | Health | http://85.230.25.118/img/ui/idle.jpg |
| 09:13.37 | Neebler | glad to see it gaining popularity over the past month |
| 09:13.56 | Galencia | bossblock is the best thing since sliced bread. |
| 09:13.59 | [Ammo] | crappy font setting health |
| 09:14.04 | [Ammo] | looks all wobbly |
| 09:14.15 | Mikma | Neebler: and no i won't call you strange because that's what i do too but i still hate it :) |
| 09:14.17 | Galencia | [Ammo]: is there a way to bossblock everything except your own warnings? |
| 09:14.17 | [Ammo] | as in the [ ] not aligned |
| 09:14.24 | Machine_ | id like to filter out anything that has the words 'pl[sz]+' 't[hn]+x' etc.. |
| 09:14.29 | [Ammo] | Galencia: not yet |
| 09:14.32 | Health | [Ammo]: The font is not mono space |
| 09:14.38 | Machine_ | i wonder if that's what heyfu's filters are used for? |
| 09:14.49 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=no@222-153-99-6.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 09:14.51 | Sole | hai |
| 09:14.59 | [Ammo] | Galencia: but specify what you want, and I might add it to one of my 10 million small todo papers |
| 09:15.05 | Wobin | Machine_: nope |
| 09:15.08 | Neebler | hmm that reminds me. I need to get a fixed width font to use on my combatlog |
| 09:15.18 | Neebler | terminal! |
| 09:15.21 | [Ammo] | I use the blizz default font and it makes me happy enough |
| 09:15.42 | [Ammo] | dunno why, but I can't use any other font |
| 09:15.43 | Machine_ | Wobin: then i shall create fubar_stfu for that! |
| 09:15.45 | Galencia | [Ammo]: i'm not sure what i want really.. just sometimes you wonder if you're announcements are being sent :) |
| 09:15.53 | [Ammo] | ah k |
| 09:16.10 | Machine_ | clearfont was very nice |
| 09:16.14 | [Ammo] | well, I have all spam enabled at times |
| 09:16.21 | Machine_ | looks awful polished with bt2 circled buttons |
| 09:16.21 | [Ammo] | aka, no bossblock |
| 09:16.45 | [Ammo] | it helps me notice which idiots still run CTBossmods |
| 09:16.52 | Health | The circled buttons are fugly |
| 09:16.55 | Galencia | hehe |
| 09:17.23 | Galencia | its funny, i get promoted in raids most times purely because of bigwigs :p |
| 09:17.36 | Health | Yeah, it's hard to add! |
| 09:18.22 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 09:18.27 | [Ammo] | tell your guildmates to run BigWigs as well |
| 09:18.34 | Galencia | i try.. oh how i try |
| 09:18.45 | Galencia | its depressing to do a version check and get like... 5 replies |
| 09:19.27 | Health | I liked the new MT frame in oRA2 - was hard to see a warrior's health with it selected and with class colors |
| 09:19.30 | Health | all brownish |
| 09:19.45 | Neebler | how'd you get so much gold Health? |
| 09:19.48 | Galencia | yeah ora2's mt frames have undergone quite a development :) |
| 09:19.53 | Neebler | 4616! |
| 09:19.55 | Sole | hmm |
| 09:20.36 | Tem | Anyone around that knows how GetCursorPosition works? |
| 09:20.39 | Sole | so agUF has all these nifty textures that could be used by Antagonist, but Im not sure if I want to copy them |
| 09:20.47 | Galencia | oh cool, i get to test the new chromaggus bars from bigwigs tonight |
| 09:21.06 | Tem | Galencia, new chromag bars? |
| 09:21.12 | Galencia | Tem: well, "new".. the breath timers |
| 09:21.20 | Tem | oh |
| 09:21.22 | Galencia | breath casting timers* |
| 09:21.22 | Tem | initial breaths? |
| 09:21.27 | Health | Neebler: I got most of the gold by selling AQ20 books early |
| 09:22.00 | Galencia | you know.. the stuff natur does, so you dont go out 1.5s into a breath's cast and get owned by the breath :) |
| 09:22.15 | Neebler | I've been playing this game since beta, and I still suck at gaining gold :| |
| 09:22.17 | Tem | not see that |
| 09:23.25 | *** join/#wowace Mery (i=metelman@p54AED0B5.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:25.38 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2501.msg49613#msg49613 |
| 09:25.43 | Mikma | was i mean enough? |
| 09:27.56 | Tem | too mean |
| 09:27.59 | Tem | I've fixed it |
| 09:28.18 | JJacobsson | naaah, enough fire, to little brimstone |
| 09:29.12 | Mikma | Tem: awwwww :O |
| 09:29.56 | Mikma | Tem: lol you deleted the post? now that's mean! |
| 09:30.14 | Tem | I deleted your post |
| 09:30.20 | Tem | It had no purpose but to flame the OP |
| 09:30.30 | Tem | yes, he's an annoying noob |
| 09:30.41 | Tem | no, that doesn't make it OK for you to be overly rude |
| 09:30.49 | Health | wow lunch krka!? |
| 09:30.49 | Mikma | i wasn't even rude, i was mean |
| 09:30.56 | Health | You're welcome - kolgrillen |
| 09:31.39 | krka | hm |
| 09:31.47 | krka | maybe |
| 09:31.49 | Health | k! |
| 09:31.55 | Health | We'll leave in 20-25 min |
| 09:32.00 | krka | ok |
| 09:32.11 | Health | I'll give you a punch in the head when we leave! |
| 09:32.19 | krka | good! |
| 09:34.59 | Machine_ | lunch vid korvmojen igen, lyxigt |
| 09:35.36 | *** join/#wowace |Pixel| (i=pixel@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Pixel) |
| 09:35.38 | Neebler | yay. discordmods.com is back up |
| 09:36.33 | phyber | Galencia: breath casting timers are nice :) |
| 09:36.38 | phyber | used them last night. |
| 09:36.43 | Galencia | cool |
| 09:36.45 | hiflyer | Machine_: korvmojen != kolgrillen |
| 09:37.05 | Machine_ | suure, suure |
| 09:37.56 | [FH]Birdemani | http://tinyurl.com/qysnh |
| 09:38.15 | [FH]Birdemani | trying to make it more clean, wondering about doing what neebler and heath does with it all on the bottom |
| 09:39.14 | hiflyer | Neebler: me and my GF have about 8k together and that's from the same reason as Health. We were early farming AQ20 and books sell at good prices |
| 09:39.37 | [FH]Birdemani | wondering if there is a way to get actionbars to look like bantobar |
| 09:41.12 | oxman | ? |
| 09:41.25 | [FH]Birdemani | the shading across the icons |
| 09:41.35 | [FH]Birdemani | i really like the look of the banto stuff |
| 09:42.05 | oxman | the icon is a texture :| |
| 09:42.11 | oxman | how you can put bantobar on this ? |
| 09:42.32 | Health | I want your sexy praid skin oxman! where do I need to fondle you? |
| 09:42.43 | *** join/#wowace Gamefaq|afk (i=Gamefaq@pD9E6078D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:42.46 | Galencia | [Ammo]: with Babble-Spell-2.0" how do you tell the difference between MoTW and GoTW? |
| 09:42.50 | [FH]Birdemani | just thinking about it, wondering if there is a way to adjust the look of them somehow |
| 09:43.00 | Neebler | discord! rawr |
| 09:43.14 | [Ammo] | Galencia: no idea, I don't use Babble-Spell-2.0 :) |
| 09:43.18 | oxman | I need do some test in a 40 raid members Health, I must test that 3/4 hours to see if i reduce the height of bar (1 or 2 pixels, maybe 3) |
| 09:43.26 | Galencia | im sure it was you who pointed me at it, though :p |
| 09:43.36 | oxman | Give me your email Health and i'll sent you after this test |
| 09:43.40 | Health | oxman: I can test in raid tonight :) |
| 09:43.43 | [Ammo] | could be galencia :) |
| 09:43.48 | Galencia | anyone else know? |
| 09:43.51 | Neebler | no lua editing needed there, just alot of in-game editing to get your UI looking any way you wanted. At the cost of a few extra MB of UI memory |
| 09:43.59 | oxman | I'll test in few hours Health (3/4 hours) |
| 09:44.03 | Health | Ah.. |
| 09:44.07 | oxman | i've finish my work in 1 hour |
| 09:44.21 | oxman | (in fact 15 minutes :p) |
| 09:44.22 | Health | I have radi in 7-8 hours.. too bad I'm no registered here at freenode so I can't send privs! |
| 09:44.43 | oxman | :) |
| 09:44.59 | oxman | send me your email at : perfectraid_revisited2@bouh.org |
| 09:45.11 | Health | :P |
| 09:45.26 | phyber | true. 7-8 hours isn't enough time to register your nick to send a private message. |
| 09:46.01 | oxman | lol phyber |
| 09:46.02 | oxman | :p |
| 09:46.23 | Health | fair enough - will do! |
| 09:46.32 | *** join/#wowace Mery2 (i=metelman@p54AED670.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:48.53 | oxman | well, wowwiki still broken here, what's the function to get the status of a spell in actionbar ? (cooldown or not) |
| 09:50.53 | oxman | getactioncooldown thanks |
| 09:51.07 | nevcairiel | you are welcome |
| 09:51.08 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:53.21 | *** join/#wowace Snago (i=Snago@h71n2fls31o808.telia.com) |
| 09:55.40 | oxman | what do you think about a function "WaveShadowWordPain" ? |
| 09:56.06 | oxman | spam this key will cast Shadow Word: Pain on all enemy player member around you |
| 09:56.18 | oxman | (enemy detected by targettarget or combatlog) |
| 09:56.25 | oxman | :p |
| 09:56.46 | Snago | Anyone else having problems connecting to wowwiki? |
| 09:56.52 | oxman | yep, its broken |
| 09:56.55 | Snago | :( |
| 09:57.15 | Snago | Is there a mirror of the API anywhere? |
| 09:57.31 | oxman | yep google |
| 09:57.44 | oxman | search: wowwiki trytorememberthefunctioname |
| 09:57.48 | oxman | and use the cache of google |
| 09:57.54 | Snago | ahh.. thx :) |
| 09:58.08 | oxman | i've found getactioncooldown with that ;D |
| 09:58.14 | oxman | and only remember action and cooldown |
| 09:58.16 | oxman | :p |
| 09:58.44 | oxman | at the top of the cache header of google click on "cached text" |
| 09:58.45 | oxman | :) |
| 09:59.13 | *** join/#wowace Rexxar (n=Rexxar@217.74.245.109) |
| 10:01.03 | *** part/#wowace Rexxar (n=Rexxar@217.74.245.109) |
| 10:03.13 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster (i=Arrow@cpe-24-209-111-105.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 10:06.29 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BC144.versanet.de) |
| 10:07.50 | *** join/#wowace kovi (i=x@p5081ECBB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:12.44 | *** join/#wowace XLVII (n=XLVII@CPE-58-162-83-185.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 10:12.44 | *** join/#wowace Dhraga (n=chatzill@static-213.88.132.126.addr.tdcsong.se) |
| 10:15.14 | Dhraga | Hi all |
| 10:16.43 | Dhraga | Question: Have anyone seen this (part of post from TBC alpha forum) is regards the lua changes in TBC ***addons and macros will no longer be capable of casting spells or targeting units*** |
| 10:17.27 | Tem | Are you saying that you're in the alpha, and that you're leaking info into a logged channel? |
| 10:17.38 | Tem | if so, I laugh in your general direction |
| 10:17.54 | deci | cant punish anyone for text fyi |
| 10:17.59 | Dhraga | Nope... I'm not in a alpha |
| 10:18.00 | deci | so you can say all you want :P |
| 10:18.11 | Tem | if not, and you're speculating, I suggest you keep it to other places |
| 10:18.12 | Dhraga | I had this information given to me |
| 10:18.46 | Tem | also, I don't care if you best friend's cousin's aunt is in the alpha and they told you personally that X is going to happen in the expansion |
| 10:19.04 | Tem | Anything said at this point cannot be the whole picture |
| 10:19.11 | Dhraga | I tried to find the alpha forums to verify it, I guess the alpha forums are closed to the general ? |
| 10:19.20 | Tem | also, things are still *very* subject to change |
| 10:19.30 | Galencia | Tem: dont kid yourslf, it'll happen :p |
| 10:20.00 | Tem | if the alpha forums now are anything like the closed beta forums before release, yes, they are close to the public |
| 10:20.08 | Tem | (common sense should have told you that though) |
| 10:20.24 | Tem | Galencia, I have faith that Blizzard isn't going to piss off a bunch of people |
| 10:20.26 | Dhraga | Well... should have :P |
| 10:20.41 | Royal | Is that November 16th release date for TBC official btw? |
| 10:20.50 | Galencia | Tem: faith? blizzard? hmm. :) |
| 10:21.11 | Tem | Galencia, I also have faith that the blizzard UI team is trying their very hardest to break as few benign addons as possible |
| 10:21.22 | Tem | we'll see come expansion |
| 10:21.46 | Tem | and telling all the nay-sayers "told ya so" |
| 10:22.05 | MoonWolf | omg, now i have to pick my healing spell all by myself. |
| 10:22.17 | MoonWolf | big nerf! |
| 10:22.20 | Tem | yes indeed |
| 10:22.30 | MoonWolf | priests are now useless GGBLIZZ |
| 10:22.32 | Tem | I hope at least that much goes through |
| 10:22.56 | Tem | because really, screw you 1 button people |
| 10:23.00 | MoonWolf | if that change is not just speculation you will know those threads are going to pop up. |
| 10:23.31 | MoonWolf | hmm |
| 10:23.35 | MoonWolf | did cia die again ? |
| 10:23.43 | Tem | anyway, I've been awake for far too long |
| 10:23.48 | Tem | night guys |
| 10:23.51 | MoonWolf | night |
| 10:23.52 | Dhraga | Nn Tem |
| 10:23.57 | Tem | bleh |
| 10:23.59 | Tem | I have to finish this |
| 10:24.02 | Tem | no sleep for tem |
| 10:24.02 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 10:25.16 | Dhraga | Question: If I'm not in the tbc alpha myself, am I breaking any rules to pass on information given to me ? |
| 10:26.17 | MoonWolf | Technically, you should not have the info because it is under nda. |
| 10:26.22 | oxman | its true about target unit and castspell ? |
| 10:26.27 | MoonWolf | however you never SIGNED the nda yourself. |
| 10:26.46 | MoonWolf | however, please keep it out of THIS channel. |
| 10:27.40 | Tem | oxman, the only people who can tell you if it's true or not are under NDA to not tell you |
| 10:27.47 | Dhraga | okies, I will. I didn't know it was under any NDA, hence I would not have tried to find the forums myself :) |
| 10:27.48 | Tem | so it's a moot point |
| 10:28.07 | oxman | :p |
| 10:28.42 | *** join/#wowace alkis (n=alkis@cpe-78519.ip.primehome.com) |
| 10:31.24 | *** join/#wowace cr4zyd (n=cr4zyd@cpe-24-170-16-21.jam.res.rr.com) |
| 10:34.14 | *** join/#wowace Skyboat (i=t@82-33-30-102.cable.ubr02.stav.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 10:35.35 | *** join/#wowace in_der_wueste (n=geforz@p54A789AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:36.54 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-139-32-236.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:38.21 | Sole | so weird |
| 10:38.28 | Sole | heres the problem |
| 10:38.55 | Sole | when I forst reload the interface and I run a test bar for Antagonist, I get the no texture bug with candybar |
| 10:39.09 | Sole | but then I run the test bars with chronometer |
| 10:39.11 | Sole | let them run out |
| 10:39.52 | Sole | and when I run test bars for antagonist after that they use the texture than chronometer uses , even though I specify a dif texture |
| 10:42.28 | Sole | any ideas? |
| 10:43.01 | Snago | i pulled my hair over a texture bug yesterday.. turns out i had used single "\" in teh texturestring.. check that.. |
| 10:44.25 | nevcairiel | Sole do you set the candybar texture or do you use the default value? |
| 10:45.07 | Sole | I set it |
| 10:45.23 | Sole | Snago: they all seem to be \\ |
| 10:45.29 | nevcairiel | mhm |
| 10:45.48 | Sole | I used the same texture strings in hostel bar |
| 10:45.48 | nevcairiel | weird. |
| 10:46.03 | Sole | wtf brought about this texture bug anyway? |
| 10:46.03 | nevcairiel | are those default blizz textures or some file you provided? |
| 10:46.10 | Sole | provided file |
| 10:46.47 | nevcairiel | i set the texture on any candybar in my HotCandy to a provided file and it works, very weird |
| 10:46.58 | [Ammo] | it works fine with bigwigs as well |
| 10:47.14 | Sole | "Interface\\Addons\\Antagonist\\Textures\\Charcoal.tga" I cant see anything wrong with the texture string |
| 10:47.20 | nevcairiel | remove the .tga |
| 10:48.30 | Sole | still nope :( |
| 10:48.43 | Wobin | textures grief me terribly |
| 10:48.45 | nevcairiel | self:SetCandyBarTexture(id, "Interface\\Addons\\HotCandy\\textures\\default") |
| 10:48.49 | nevcairiel | thats what i do and works fine |
| 10:48.51 | [Ammo] | remove the .tga indeed |
| 10:49.09 | Mikma | hmm... we really should make a TexLib |
| 10:49.16 | Mikma | which has all those cool textures in |
| 10:49.24 | Sole | I was thinking of that today also mikma |
| 10:49.31 | [Ammo] | could make it a TexLib addon |
| 10:49.33 | [Ammo] | not a lib |
| 10:49.38 | [Ammo] | because a lib can be embedded |
| 10:49.41 | [Ammo] | and make it optdept in most addons |
| 10:49.46 | Mikma | [Ammo]: yeah true that |
| 10:49.52 | nevcairiel | embedded would be weird. |
| 10:49.58 | [Ammo] | and embedding the texlib -> debugstack searching again etc |
| 10:49.58 | Mikma | embedded would not be good at this point but addon would be good |
| 10:50.26 | nevcairiel | and if its present, offer all the great textures, if its not, one default texture |
| 10:50.28 | Mikma | and like "if TexLib then SetCandyBarTexture(id, megatexture1) |
| 10:50.35 | Sole | I know that agUF, chronometer, cdt, antagonist all use quite a few of the same textures |
| 10:50.59 | Mikma | yeah, that would eliminate the need to add all the possible textures in the addons |
| 10:51.00 | phyber | Tem: I read something on the forums about CarpetSamples. Is that going to be an embedded lib that each addon can register its textures with, to make them available to other addons with the lib? |
| 10:51.19 | Mikma | author could just point out "if you wan't more Textures for my addon, download this: TexLib" |
| 10:51.20 | Tem | it's an old school optional dep |
| 10:51.28 | phyber | ah. |
| 10:51.30 | Tem | yes, exactly |
| 10:51.50 | nevcairiel | mhm |
| 10:51.51 | Tem | [Ammo], I already have it written |
| 10:52.01 | Tem | I just need to get some time to document it and commit |
| 10:52.04 | Mikma | where has cia go? |
| 10:52.06 | nevcairiel | where did CIA go? |
| 10:52.08 | MoonWolf | no clue |
| 10:52.13 | *** join/#wowace beerke (n=beerke@5353E177.cable.casema.nl) |
| 10:52.13 | MoonWolf | ~seen cia |
| 10:52.20 | purl | cia <n=karsten@linuxmafia.COM> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 5d 3h 57m 21s ago, saying: 'liable: Stop interfering in international affairs, that's my baliwick.'. |
| 10:52.20 | MoonWolf | ~seen cia-17 |
| 10:52.22 | purl | cia-17 <i=cia@cia.navi.cx> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19d 2h 27m 56s ago, saying: '03nevcairiel * r11129 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: fixed typo in .toc'. |
| 10:52.38 | nevcairiel | bwe had 11 |
| 10:52.41 | nevcairiel | ~seen CIA-11 |
| 10:52.43 | purl | cia-11 <i=cia@cia.navi.cx> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 34m 42s ago, saying: '03gamefaq * r13158 10Squishy/localization.deDE.lua: Squishy - Updated deDE Translation'. |
| 10:52.44 | MoonWolf | right |
| 10:53.35 | nevcairiel | bah Tem, now i thought about howto do that and you already finished it .. bleh :D |
| 10:56.03 | [Ammo] | does it have a nice api? and options to get a dewdrop table? and events fired to update all textures? |
| 10:56.06 | [Ammo] | etc ) |
| 10:56.15 | [Ammo] | wtb preview :) |
| 11:08.23 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster` (i=Arrow@cpe-24-209-111-105.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 11:08.51 | Sole | ahh |
| 11:08.55 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-171-103.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:09.01 | Sole | this texture bug is driving me crazy |
| 11:09.11 | Sole | hell its probably not a bug but an oversight somewhere by me :( |
| 11:09.27 | nevcairiel | is the file there? |
| 11:09.28 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:10.29 | Sole | ya |
| 11:11.03 | nevcairiel | is the bar-name you set the texture on correct? |
| 11:12.14 | nevcairiel | if the path and id is correct, and the file is there, i dont see anything that could be wrong. |
| 11:12.16 | packetlss | http://www.google.com/codesearch/advanced_code_search <- nice |
| 11:12.21 | Sole | local id = blah , then I use id as the bar through the method for hte candy bar functions :) |
| 11:13.13 | MoonWolf | i searched a random var in my mendleev locals |
| 11:13.17 | MoonWolf | and it picked it right up. |
| 11:13.32 | MoonWolf | wtf |
| 11:13.36 | MoonWolf | out of epoxyui |
| 11:13.47 | Health | It even searches compressed files |
| 11:13.52 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 11:14.06 | nevcairiel | doesnt find my HotCandy |
| 11:14.13 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 11:14.35 | oxman | hostelbar work fine now ? |
| 11:14.50 | nevcairiel | it indexed all files on the files page, but didnt index the svn |
| 11:14.51 | Health | Never got it to work |
| 11:15.34 | Sole | oxman: Im rewriting it |
| 11:15.40 | oxman | ok :/ |
| 11:15.46 | Sole | oxman: scrapped hostelbar |
| 11:16.21 | Sole | oxman: too much extra code with the durations bit - which is now obsolete with chronometer |
| 11:17.11 | Sole | oxman: good news though is the rewrite is basicly almost done :) |
| 11:17.21 | oxman | you release the new version in few hours so ? |
| 11:17.21 | oxman | :p |
| 11:17.35 | Sole | oxman: after I get this texture thing and add command line options Ill release it |
| 11:18.03 | Sole | Ive got 2 problems: titles are dissapearing and texture bug |
| 11:18.15 | oxman | use candybar :p |
| 11:18.40 | *** join/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 11:19.24 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-140-200-143.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:20.27 | Sole | I do use candybar |
| 11:20.33 | Sole | oh and I just fixed the title bug |
| 11:20.38 | Sole | only thing is the texture bug :( |
| 11:20.43 | Sole | transparent textures :( |
| 11:20.49 | oxman | restart wow |
| 11:21.26 | oxman | restart and not reload ;) |
| 11:23.35 | Wobin | So.. |
| 11:23.39 | *** join/#wowace Soltanis (i=Soltanis@81.168.16.197) |
| 11:23.41 | Wobin | how do we capture the towers in EP? |
| 11:23.55 | Wobin | I've been sitting in this one flagged for quite some time now |
| 11:24.06 | Wobin | and it's just Uncontested |
| 11:24.13 | Royal | wait longer :P |
| 11:24.29 | Wobin | sigh =P |
| 11:24.38 | Royal | join the localdefense chan and enable the worlf pvp timer or smth and youll see a bar below your minimap, timer |
| 11:25.15 | [FH]Birdemani | oCB is the newest version of otraviCastingBar on the svn? |
| 11:25.20 | [FH]Birdemani | in trunk? |
| 11:25.57 | [Ammo] | get more people in the tower with you |
| 11:26.05 | [Ammo] | the more people are in the tower the faster it goes |
| 11:27.16 | Galencia | make sure you can see the progress bar :p |
| 11:27.20 | Galencia | if you cant, nothing is happening |
| 11:28.40 | Wobin | I can't =( |
| 11:28.46 | Wobin | no timer bar |
| 11:28.54 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: yes |
| 11:29.15 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: it's the same version as the one that has been in branches for the last couple of months |
| 11:29.21 | [FH]Birdemani | k |
| 11:29.27 | haste | I just moved it to trunk since it was requested |
| 11:29.31 | [FH]Birdemani | thanks |
| 11:29.39 | haste | same with oUF2, even tho' it will be replaced "soon" |
| 11:32.05 | Wobin | well that sucks, I can't stealth =P |
| 11:32.07 | Wobin | oh well |
| 11:33.00 | haste | Can't? |
| 11:33.09 | haste | I broke DRI :( |
| 11:33.10 | haste | somehow |
| 11:33.24 | Wobin | not without turning the timer off |
| 11:33.48 | Royal | hmm yeah Wobin, if you're stealthed you cant capure a tower |
| 11:33.58 | Royal | haste, he's talking about capturing towers in EPL :P |
| 11:34.03 | haste | ah |
| 11:36.13 | haste | hahaah |
| 11:36.18 | haste | I broke X quite hard somehow |
| 11:36.30 | haste | wrote 'glxgears' and it crashed :( |
| 11:38.21 | [FH]Birdemani | Getting an error here: PT\Elements\Misc\PTEmbedElemMisc.lua:63: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 29 near 'decks' |
| 11:41.11 | Health | l |
| 11:41.42 | Sole | oh I had that problem a few days ago |
| 11:41.51 | Sole | forgot how I fixed it though >_< |
| 11:42.00 | Sole | Im helpful :P |
| 11:42.03 | [FH]Birdemani | lol |
| 11:44.31 | JoshBork1 | haste: you fix it? |
| 11:44.59 | haste | JoshBork1: yeh, was a quick edit to the xorg.conf, which I did right after it crashed :) |
| 11:46.01 | haste | the time between the "ah" and the "hahaah" is the time it took to crash and fix :p |
| 11:49.29 | *** join/#wowace ven_ (n=ven@dynadsl-080-228-65-109.ewetel.net) |
| 11:49.29 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-62-148.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:50.01 | *** join/#wowace steino (n=stein-iv@ti531210a080-1019.bb.online.no) |
| 11:51.33 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@ip68-227-128-41.br.br.cox.net) |
| 11:51.33 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BC144.versanet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.33 | *** join/#wowace Snago (i=Snago@h71n2fls31o808.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.33 | *** join/#wowace Mery2 (i=metelman@p54AED670.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:51.33 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=no@222-153-99-6.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.33 | *** join/#wowace SH|Shabador (n=shabador@ti400720a080-5027.bb.online.no) |
| 11:51.34 | *** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 11:51.34 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@dynadsl-080-228-65-109.ewetel.net) |
| 11:51.34 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au) |
| 11:51.34 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@85-125-221-75.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.34 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=niklas_r@81-229-155-229-o1124.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.34 | *** join/#wowace Chippen|TaE (n=thelones@host-83-166-15-67.hernonet.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.34 | *** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=Miranda@83.145.59.23) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.34 | *** join/#wowace dreyruugr (n=chatzill@68-171-44-192.vnnyca.adelphia.net) |
| 11:51.35 | *** join/#wowace Vathral (i=nn@user-0cev143.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 11:51.35 | *** join/#wowace Delemoose (n=techjoe_@res24853.rh.rit.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.35 | *** join/#wowace frus (i=frus@082-146-097-231.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) |
| 11:51.35 | *** join/#wowace Meleganis (i=WinNT@meleganis.rh.rit.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.35 | *** join/#wowace MikkZzz (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 11:51.35 | *** join/#wowace Plorkyeran (n=Knightki@155.33.136.174) |
| 11:51.37 | *** join/#wowace Ancoron (n=bla@toaster.amadeus.RWTH-Aachen.DE) |
| 11:51.38 | *** join/#wowace Angeris (n=anger@ppp6-253.adsl.forthnet.gr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.38 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-217-156-188.owb.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.38 | *** join/#wowace Thorias (n=eschack@x1-6-00-e0-f4-12-91-e7.k234.webspeed.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.38 | *** join/#wowace Saroz (n=Saroz@0x50a422a5.slnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.38 | *** join/#wowace Fritti (n=stijn@pcbcf001.win.tue.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.38 | *** join/#wowace mute^ (i=mute@mail.pbnation.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.38 | *** join/#wowace oxman (i=oxman@bau91-1-82-239-244-31.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:51.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by irc.freenode.net |
| 11:52.20 | *** part/#wowace JoshBork1 (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 11:52.21 | *** join/#wowace PX_Hakker (i=UPP@a82-93-101-11.adsl.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 11:52.21 | SH|Shabador | o.O |
| 11:52.21 | oxman | lol !!!!!!! |
| 11:52.21 | Sole | someone tripped on the power cord |
| 11:52.21 | oxman | you've the big lag too ? |
| 11:52.21 | oxman | :) |
| 11:52.21 | oxman | oh a netsplit |
| 11:52.21 | oxman | sorry :D |
| 11:52.21 | deci | who is clogging up the internets tubes |
| 11:53.33 | *** join/#wowace leech2k (n=leech@deathgrab.com) |
| 11:54.33 | Laricwork | oooh netsplit havent seen one of those for ages |
| 11:54.53 | Health | fantastic. |
| 11:54.59 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 11:55.31 | *** join/#wowace Sairen (n=Miranda@p549E6A07.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:56.20 | Machine_ | does anyone use pprovost's winaceupdater? |
| 11:56.44 | Machine_ | i'm wondering if i should update addons including externals or skip externals and download !!!libraries instead |
| 11:58.51 | nevcairiel | we tuned !!!Libs yesterday, it should work quite nice now |
| 11:58.56 | *** join/#wowace Ancoron|away (n=bla@toaster.amadeus.RWTH-Aachen.DE) |
| 11:59.08 | [FH]Birdemani | except for the error I am getting now |
| 11:59.23 | nevcairiel | well what errors? |
| 11:59.26 | [FH]Birdemani | Getting an error here: PT\Elements\Misc\PTEmbedElemMisc.lua:63: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 29 near 'decks' |
| 11:59.41 | [FH]Birdemani | starts with !!Libs |
| 12:00.42 | nevcairiel | i dont see any error in that file |
| 12:00.57 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 12:00.57 | [FH]Birdemani | its what I am getting when I log in |
| 12:01.00 | nevcairiel | someone edited it |
| 12:01.36 | nevcairiel | fixed |
| 12:01.39 | nevcairiel | update it again |
| 12:01.41 | [FH]Birdemani | thanks |
| 12:03.56 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:04.15 | nevcairiel | ~welcome JoshBorke |
| 12:04.26 | purl | Howdy, JoshBorke! |
| 12:04.28 | nevcairiel | purl down too? |
| 12:04.32 | nevcairiel | ah. |
| 12:05.22 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-153-172.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:05.48 | MoonWolf | [FH]Birdemani, should be fixed. |
| 12:06.11 | nevcairiel | yea i fixed it :p |
| 12:07.08 | nevcairiel | we need CIA back |
| 12:07.09 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 12:08.39 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 12:08.48 | MoonWolf | i went, hmm, i edited that file, went to update it |
| 12:08.55 | MoonWolf | your version is out of date. |
| 12:09.02 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:09.06 | Wobin | omg |
| 12:09.11 | Wobin | spectral gryphon |
| 12:09.13 | Wobin | best thing ever |
| 12:09.18 | MoonWolf | link ? |
| 12:09.47 | Wobin | me? |
| 12:10.13 | *** join/#wowace [Insom]Farns (i=Farnswor@60.234.231.172) |
| 12:10.16 | MoonWolf | well, i for one want to know what a spectral gryphon looks like |
| 12:10.28 | Wobin | just getting it hosted =) |
| 12:14.11 | Wobin | http://i12.tinypic.com/2i134uf.png |
| 12:14.15 | *** join/#wowace Kalamadi (n=root@244-83.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 12:14.49 | *** join/#wowace revv (n=Miranda@205.174.173.142) |
| 12:14.58 | evl | Oooh human rogue! |
| 12:15.08 | evl | I was thinking of rerolling to human before TBC |
| 12:15.15 | evl | but I'm not sure weapon skills will matter than much |
| 12:15.23 | *** join/#wowace Braennan (n=Braennan@171stb12.codetel.net.do) |
| 12:15.25 | nevcairiel | wow |
| 12:15.28 | nevcairiel | that looks great |
| 12:15.28 | evl | and besides human males look like they crapped their pants when they run/sprint |
| 12:15.35 | Neebler | gnomes need a bonus to daggers |
| 12:15.51 | Neebler | and dwarves to axes |
| 12:15.58 | evl | wouldn't surprise me if weapon bonuses got shafted completely |
| 12:16.00 | Kalamadi | I'm a walking minority; Dwarven female pally. |
| 12:16.01 | evl | it's too imbalanced end game |
| 12:16.03 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-170-234.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:16.08 | Wobin | ditto |
| 12:16.12 | Wobin | dwarven female priest |
| 12:16.25 | Neebler | orc female shaman |
| 12:16.33 | Neebler | an alt of mine. named Hag! |
| 12:16.46 | Kalamadi | And, now that I've made my presence known, I have fun coding questions to ask >_> |
| 12:16.57 | Wobin | but yes, cool ghost gryphon =) |
| 12:17.04 | Neebler | the answer is 64 |
| 12:17.09 | Wobin | Catch it at the Plaguewood tower |
| 12:17.18 | Wobin | (I think you need to control all of the towers though) |
| 12:17.23 | Kalamadi | Are you sure the answer isn't 42? |
| 12:17.35 | Neebler | I ment that |
| 12:17.47 | Machine_ | see, we can be helpful at times |
| 12:17.56 | Machine_ | often wrong but always helpful |
| 12:18.00 | Laricwork | time to go home for the weekend :P |
| 12:18.13 | Neebler | SLEEP |
| 12:19.07 | Kalamadi | Machine, are you helpful in the realm of addon coding, by any chance? |
| 12:19.35 | [FH]Birdemani | ok, so final tweaks are in. after moving to !!LIBS I went from 25.8 total time from warmup to 14.9 seconds |
| 12:19.42 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:20.09 | [FH]Birdemani | bigwigs dropped nearly 1.5 seconds alone |
| 12:21.40 | Kalamadi | I feel like some manner of parasite. I'm trying to find someone I can ask for coding assistance, but am afraid to ask. |
| 12:22.16 | haste | someone write me a script to change the TOC files |
| 12:22.22 | haste | as my WoW doesn't want to save config.wtf |
| 12:22.52 | Kalamadi | I think I might have seen one in passing on curse-gaming or something (please don't stone me) |
| 12:22.56 | nevcairiel | a script doing what? |
| 12:23.22 | nevcairiel | updateing interface version? |
| 12:23.22 | haste | changing the interface version :p |
| 12:23.26 | MoonWolf | haste, i can grab you the config.wtf line if you want. |
| 12:23.35 | haste | MoonWolf: would be nice |
| 12:23.45 | haste | I'm getting sick of accepting the EULA and enabling add ons :p |
| 12:23.47 | MoonWolf | SET checkAddonVersion "0" |
| 12:23.55 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 12:23.57 | MoonWolf | SET readTOS "1" |
| 12:23.57 | MoonWolf | SET readEULA "1" |
| 12:24.16 | haste | those two are set already |
| 12:24.22 | MoonWolf | any others while i am at it ? |
| 12:24.44 | haste | TOS and EULA still shows with those set like that |
| 12:24.56 | nevcairiel | on a new patch it creates a file which sets readTOS and readEULA to default, check if there are other .wtf files in your WTF dir |
| 12:25.06 | haste | there aren't |
| 12:25.26 | Machine_ | emacs or xemacs? |
| 12:25.39 | haste | I'll just live with it until I found a solution |
| 12:25.49 | nevcairiel | does it save gfx settings? |
| 12:26.00 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: no not very, i just hang around here spouting nonsense and crying because i haven't got dev svn account yet |
| 12:26.28 | haste | nevcairiel: I can't edit my resolution and such in-game |
| 12:26.50 | haste | or, I can change everything except resolution :p |
| 12:26.58 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: i'm kind of in the same situation as you. there's no good references and noone to ask |
| 12:27.32 | phyber | good references and people to ask about what? |
| 12:27.43 | Kalamadi | Machine_: I'm trying to learn by example, but it's hard to have effective coding after that. |
| 12:28.02 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: the only thing i can suggest is reading the code of addons that does approximately what you want to do yourself and copy how they do it |
| 12:28.20 | Machine_ | phyber: wow addon coding |
| 12:28.32 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-144-49-243.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:28.36 | alkis | another thing to do is to take a library you are interested in, write an example addon for it and give to the community |
| 12:28.58 | Kalamadi | Machine_: I'm sorta modifying Squishy to filter classes out, but am stuck with a large section of if..then statements at the end |
| 12:29.03 | alkis | then the next one to write an addon can check that example to make his/her life easier |
| 12:30.05 | *** join/#wowace Iceroth (n=tatexi@dna22-56.tampere.customers.dnainternet.fi) |
| 12:30.49 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: well what's wrong with it? does it not work? |
| 12:31.22 | Kalamadi | Machine_: Oh, it'll work, but I don't want to have nine if..then statements lined up when I could just have one |
| 12:31.47 | Wobin | pastey it |
| 12:32.02 | Sole | << never even looked at the squishy code |
| 12:32.07 | Sole | Im a rogue not a healer ^_^ |
| 12:32.23 | Kalamadi | Two different computers, but I'll do what I can |
| 12:33.03 | Kalamadi | I've defined Squishy.db.profile.class, where class is each of the nine classes |
| 12:33.39 | Kalamadi | Now, when checking if the variable is true or not, I don't know how to change the variable being checked according to the unit |
| 12:33.51 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: do you want to filter out any number of classes? |
| 12:34.54 | Kalamadi | Machine_: Yeah. Currently, I adjusted the menu of Squishy to make a checkbox for each class |
| 12:37.10 | Kalamadi | I could make nine "if UnitClass(id) = Class1 then / If Squishy.db.profile.Class1 then" segments, but that just seems sloppy to me |
| 12:37.19 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: i can't comment much without checking the code, but don't fret to much about ugly if elsifs, if it works use it |
| 12:38.02 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: instead of Squishy.db.profile.Class1 you could use a bit pattern or something |
| 12:38.15 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-140-200-61.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:38.23 | Kalamadi | Machine_: Bit...pattern? Teach me more. |
| 12:38.40 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: oh boy |
| 12:39.43 | Kalamadi | Machine_: Actually, I'll post a copy of my modified core.lua on my site and link it to you, as well as tell you the lines I'm concerned about |
| 12:40.26 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: a bit pattern is where you set individual bits in (say) a byte to represent binary flags, in this case should we track this specific class |
| 12:41.50 | Kalamadi | Machine_: How would I go about matching a unit's class and its respective class flag? |
| 12:42.52 | Rophy | Thrae here? |
| 12:43.44 | Mikma | NEAT! i get a Detox error when trying to use CorkFu |
| 12:44.16 | Mikma | Detox.lua:696: Usage: UnitIsFriend("unit", "otherUnit") |
| 12:44.18 | alkis | if i use AceComm to listen to both GUILD and GROUP channels... do I need to have 2 AceComm objects? |
| 12:45.39 | Royal | [Ammo], is there a way to click away the Custom bars? |
| 12:45.53 | Royal | For example, when a funny guy gives you a 99min timer >< |
| 12:47.15 | MoonWolf | prss you /reload macro |
| 12:47.32 | Rophy | Anyone who uses Parser-1.1 and would like to discuss the API of Parser-2.0 with me? |
| 12:48.23 | oxman | yep |
| 12:48.27 | Royal | MoonWolf, I figured that out :P Thought it might be nice to make the icon clickable or smth to remove the bar or whatever :) |
| 12:48.28 | Kalamadi | Blargh. I'm so unused to IRC. |
| 12:48.32 | Sole | i would but I dont think IVe used parser 1.1 extensively enough to provide enough valuable feedback |
| 12:48.39 | oxman | yep Rophy |
| 12:49.02 | [FH]Birdemani | yea, that would be nice, found people abusing it already |
| 12:49.38 | Rophy | well... in 1.1 ParserLib passes a info table, some people think it is a bad thing and wants to remove it in 2.0. |
| 12:50.30 | Kalamadi | Machine_: Are you still there? >_>; |
| 12:50.35 | Rophy | if I don't pass a table, then the args will be passsed instead: |
| 12:50.35 | Rophy | MyAddon:Parser_Hit(source, victim, skill, amount, element, isCrit, isDOT, isSplit, isCrushing, isGlancing, amountAbsorb, amountBlock, amountResist, amountVulnerable) |
| 12:50.44 | Sole | i dont mind the table |
| 12:51.03 | Rophy | and this long function args looks realy inconvinent to me for the users. |
| 12:51.04 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: trying to come up with a good example |
| 12:51.32 | Kalamadi | Machine_: Well, I have my edited file ready for you to look at, if you wish |
| 12:51.33 | nevcairiel | Rophy: table is easier tho, you can have one function parsing all events. |
| 12:52.01 | Rophy | nevcairiel: some people dislike having one function for all events. :\ |
| 12:52.09 | *** join/#wowace DarkImakuni (n=mju@host217-43-102-113.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:52.35 | Rophy | they want MyAddon:Parser_HIt, MyAddon:Parser_Miss instead of MyAddon_OnEvent() if info.type == 'hit' then ... elseif infotype == 'miss' then ... |
| 12:53.00 | DarkImakuni | good afternoon everyone :) |
| 12:53.12 | nevcairiel | Allowing both ways would be good |
| 12:53.25 | Rophy | and it (Parser_Hit, Parser_Miss event handler) actually fits better to the AceEvnt-2.0 architecture. |
| 12:54.01 | Rophy | in Parser-2.0 you dont interact with ParserLib directly, you just registers to the AceEvent custom event: "Parser_Hit", "Parser_Miss" etc |
| 12:54.34 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: http://ace.pastey.net/1377 |
| 12:54.56 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: i'm not sure if lua uses '&' as the binary AND operator tho |
| 12:55.15 | nevcairiel | use "and" |
| 12:55.40 | Machine_ | i'm not even sure that code would compile, but you get the general idea |
| 12:55.44 | Kalamadi | Aye |
| 12:55.48 | nevcairiel | oh wait |
| 12:55.53 | nevcairiel | real binary operators |
| 12:55.54 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 12:55.58 | oxman | i want a table not many args Rophy |
| 12:56.11 | nevcairiel | pure lua doesnt offer that, but blizz added a lib into wow-lua |
| 12:56.29 | Rophy | I am trying to figure out a way to satisfy both sides. |
| 12:56.36 | oxman | but i like the idea to register event |
| 12:56.44 | Machine_ | no binary operators? what's the world come to!? oh the horrors |
| 12:56.48 | Kalamadi | Machine_: http:/68.202.83.244/core.lua |
| 12:56.55 | Kalamadi | Machine_: (lines 811 through 855) That's the bloat I want to fix. |
| 12:57.49 | Machine_ | can't connect |
| 12:57.54 | Kalamadi | Odd. |
| 12:58.23 | Kalamadi | Blargh! Internal IP changed again |
| 12:58.31 | Kalamadi | Router. I will KEEEL you. |
| 12:58.55 | Machine_ | pwnd |
| 12:58.59 | nevcairiel | I guess i could adapt to the multiple-args. |
| 12:59.07 | Kalamadi | Machine_: Try again, should work now. |
| 12:59.32 | Rophy | well... I will write a optionally mapper from separate function args to table, it'll be used as a compatilibty layer if you have both 1.1 and 2.0 addons in your WoW. |
| 13:00.16 | Rophy | optional mapper* |
| 13:00.32 | Kalamadi | Machine_: I'm already collapsing the pairs of if statements, don't point that out >_<; It's 9 AM and I *didn't* wake up this morning. |
| 13:00.47 | Rophy | so that your combat logs still got parsed only once even if you have both Parser-1.1 and Parser-2.0 in your WoW. |
| 13:02.09 | DarkImakuni | Parser-2.0? <gives Rophy a cookie> |
| 13:02.36 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: if you could store the unit's class in the 'u' table it would be simpler to compare |
| 13:02.39 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/oSkingoesporn.jpg |
| 13:02.54 | Rophy | anyway... I'm having some annoying issues for the separate arg approach, and I dun even know how to express the problems. ~_~ |
| 13:02.56 | Machine_ | Mikma: i'm not sure i want to look at that ;) |
| 13:03.39 | lotheac | that looks frightening. |
| 13:03.44 | Rophy | was hoping to find someone who knows about combat log parsing to give me some opinions. |
| 13:03.49 | Kalamadi | Machine_: The thing is that I should only have to compare once; there's only one class per unit, and the name of class is the same as the variable; I just don't know how to place the class name as the variable >_> |
| 13:03.51 | DarkImakuni | oSkin hacked to make it bright red... and a Gnome Elf? |
| 13:04.29 | SH|Shabador | My god... My eyes! They burn! |
| 13:04.37 | Mikma | not much to hack. /oskin backdrop 1 0 0 0.9 |
| 13:04.53 | [FH]Birdemani | wow, that oskin is terribly ugly |
| 13:05.04 | DarkImakuni | I prefer a dark blue myself :) |
| 13:05.30 | [FH]Birdemani | and there is a mod out there from a chinese site that changes your model for you into anything you want, including draenai/bloodelf |
| 13:05.44 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: well if you only want to cleanup the if's then: if (UnitClass(id) == "Druid") and Squishy.db.profile.Druid then |
| 13:06.01 | Kalamadi | Yeah, I've already done that :x |
| 13:06.04 | Mikma | yes i know it's horrible |
| 13:06.07 | Mikma | that's why i don't use it |
| 13:06.22 | Kalamadi | But there has to be a way to get it down to just one if..then instead of nine. |
| 13:06.35 | JoshBorke | Rophy: heh, i've DONE combat log parsing... |
| 13:06.35 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: but you'd save some time if you could store the unit class in the unit table 'u', then you wouldn't have to call UnitClass all those times |
| 13:06.37 | DarkImakuni | [FH]Birdemani: I thought Blizz nuked model changing... :S |
| 13:06.46 | JoshBorke | Rophy: but i'd dare say you'd be the expert here ;-) |
| 13:06.48 | [FH]Birdemani | someone found a way around it |
| 13:07.04 | Rophy | well... it's not technical problems, mainly about the API. |
| 13:07.06 | [FH]Birdemani | i dont do it, im not one of those ones that care about that |
| 13:07.13 | [FH]Birdemani | but ive seen screenshots |
| 13:07.30 | Kalamadi | Machine_: local u.class = UnitClass(id) |
| 13:07.42 | Rophy | without the info table, expect to have really long args for each event type. |
| 13:07.49 | DarkImakuni | I must admit I have used custom models... I was sad when Blizz nuked it in 1.11.0 :( |
| 13:08.19 | JoshBorke | Rophy: ah yes. i'm battling with that in my own mod |
| 13:08.49 | Rophy | and one annoying problem is that, some GlobalStrings patterns are so rare and wierd, but I can't just skip them from a general combat log parser. |
| 13:09.10 | Rophy | e.g. for experience patterns, there is a COMBATLOG_XPLOSS_FIRSTPERSON_UNNAMED = "You lose %d experience."; |
| 13:09.19 | Rophy | I don't even know when can you lose experiences? |
| 13:09.25 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 13:09.46 | Rophy | however as a general combat log parser, I'll have to add a arg for "isNegative", for one pattern which I dont even know if it will appears. |
| 13:10.19 | JoshBorke | Rophy: do you have the proposed API anywhere? |
| 13:10.51 | Rophy | not yet, just imagine having all fields in the info table searated out as function args. |
| 13:10.53 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: if you'd store the unit's class as u.class as a bitmask (say 0001 for a warrior) and store the bitmask of which classes to watch in Squishy.db.profile.classes (say 3 or 0011 binary) |
| 13:10.55 | Rophy | there are lots of 'optional fields' which are nil most of the time. |
| 13:11.10 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: you could replace all those ifs with: if (u.class & Squishy.db.profile.Classes) then datasubtable.pri = u.priority end |
| 13:11.29 | Rophy | with the info table approach, I only need to have an optional info.isNegative fileld, which will be nil 99.99% of the time. |
| 13:12.20 | Rophy | but that will be added as an extra function arg without the table approach. |
| 13:12.20 | Machine_ | (if lua had bit operators etc) |
| 13:12.20 | nevcairiel | there is a bit lib in wow-lua |
| 13:12.20 | nevcairiel | check wowwiki |
| 13:12.20 | nevcairiel | if it wasnt down |
| 13:12.20 | Machine_ | ^^ |
| 13:13.02 | JoshBorke | Rophy: so it'll be something like: <event>,<type>,<target>,<caster>,<amount>,<isCrit>,<isNegative>? what exactly is the isNegative for again? |
| 13:13.41 | Rophy | function MyAddon:Parser_Experience(amount, source, bonusAmount, bonusType, penaltyAmount, penaltyType, amountRaidPenalty, amountGroupBonus, victim) |
| 13:13.41 | Kalamadi | Machine_: I'll just use nested if...else statements for now :x |
| 13:13.46 | JoshBorke | i think that bitMasking is expensive... |
| 13:14.00 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: haha! well don't say i didn't tell you to in the first place ;) |
| 13:14.02 | Rophy | "isNegative" is for one pattern: COMBATLOG_XPLOSS_FIRSTPERSON_UNNAMED = "You lose %d experience."; |
| 13:14.05 | DarkImakuni | Wobin: can you/I hack FuXPFu to use :ScheduleRepeatingEvent() instead of Metrognome? |
| 13:14.12 | Rophy | which I have never seen it myself. |
| 13:14.19 | Wobin | Go ahead =) |
| 13:14.26 | JoshBorke | Rophy: can't you just make the amount negative? then they can check to see if it is positive or negative? |
| 13:14.35 | DarkImakuni | If I break it, blame SVNBot :P |
| 13:14.47 | JoshBorke | we'll just blame Wobin |
| 13:14.49 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: you could use "if elsif elsif" atleast so whenever you get a "hit" you don't have to go through all the rest of the ifs |
| 13:14.58 | Rophy | As a general parser, I can't just assume that the amount parsed from combat log will be positive. |
| 13:14.58 | Machine_ | or is it elseif in lua |
| 13:15.10 | DarkImakuni | Machine_: it's elseif |
| 13:15.17 | Rophy | i.e. I shouldn't modify the tokens parsed in any way. |
| 13:15.27 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: if druid .. elseif warrior .. elseif priest |
| 13:15.48 | JoshBorke | Rophy: i see what you are saying now |
| 13:15.56 | Machine_ | hm, that won't help, nevermind |
| 13:16.06 | Rophy | The whole problem is that there are so many wierd and rare patterns such as this one. |
| 13:16.19 | Rophy | and I'll have to add an additional arg for those never-appearing patterns |
| 13:16.36 | Rophy | this was not an issue with the info table approach. |
| 13:16.54 | Kalamadi | Machine_: I've updated the core.lua so you can see what I've done thus far |
| 13:16.55 | Rophy | since the fields are dynamic. |
| 13:17.13 | JoshBorke | Kalamadi: why not Squishy.db.profile[UnitClass(id)]? |
| 13:17.27 | JoshBorke | Rophy: i don't think it will be that big of a deal |
| 13:17.31 | Kalamadi | JoshBorke: Where were you two hours ago? |
| 13:17.35 | Rophy | look at this too: COMBATLOG_XPGAIN = "%s gains %d experience."; |
| 13:17.38 | JoshBorke | Kalamadi: sleeping |
| 13:17.43 | *** join/#wowace Delsphynx (i=Delsphyn@firebox.biotage.com) |
| 13:17.53 | Kalamadi | JoshBorke: Well. Thank you kindly. |
| 13:18.06 | Rophy | so a 'victim' arg is required for this pattern, which I don't think it will appear. |
| 13:18.07 | *** join/#wowace nuOHEP (n=nuohep@h54.ciscom.ru) |
| 13:18.16 | JoshBorke | Kalamadi: is that seriously all you needed? o.O |
| 13:18.41 | Rophy | so it's not really a technical problem, just an annoyonce. |
| 13:19.03 | Kalamadi | JoshBorke: Yeah. The whole difficulty of my problem was describing what it was X_x |
| 13:19.27 | JoshBorke | Rophy: are you going to standardize your event argument list? <victim>,<source>,<spell>,<amount>,<isCrit> etc... |
| 13:19.32 | Kalamadi | And, thank you Machine_ for your efforts, too |
| 13:19.40 | Machine_ | lol |
| 13:19.41 | Rophy | what do you mean 'standardize? |
| 13:19.50 | Machine_ | see what i ment by nonsense? |
| 13:19.51 | Rophy | same args for all event types? |
| 13:20.08 | JoshBorke | Rophy: to the best of your ability |
| 13:20.14 | Machine_ | i'm still new to lua and that one escaped me to be honest |
| 13:20.15 | Rophy | the pattern tokens varies too much to have a standard args I think. |
| 13:20.30 | Machine_ | i never quite got that foo.bar = foo["bar"] |
| 13:21.03 | Kalamadi | XD |
| 13:21.59 | JoshBorke | Rophy: every event has a <victim>,<source> right? Usually the victim can be your target and the source is you. But what events don't have 2 'actors'? Even creation of items the <victim> can be the player and the <source> can be the item |
| 13:22.00 | Kalamadi | I actually tried as you suggested, JoshBorke, but I got stuck on the whole . before the [ |
| 13:22.22 | JoshBorke | Kalamadi: it can be quite confusing :-) |
| 13:22.39 | JoshBorke | Kalamadi: i still can't get over the : notation ;-) |
| 13:22.42 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-140-201-238.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:22.53 | Kalamadi | Now! To fling copious amounts of messages towards maia~ |
| 13:22.56 | nevcairiel | you get used to it :) |
| 13:23.17 | Kalamadi | JoshBorke: My next project is to convert ElkBuffBars to use CandyBars |
| 13:23.45 | [Ammo] | Kalamadi: ebb2 already does that :p |
| 13:23.47 | [Ammo] | it's in the branches |
| 13:23.54 | Rophy | JoshBorke: "You suffers 10 fire damage from lava.", "You gain 2 extra attacks from WindFury.", "Your shield fades.", "Your backstab failed: not yet recovered.", all don't have a source. |
| 13:24.12 | FISKER_Q | hyperChipmunk :(? |
| 13:24.16 | Machine_ | Kalamadi: id rather see you do the opposite, get candybars to use the same texture as ebb |
| 13:24.31 | Kalamadi | Ammo: I'm afraid I can't reach the branches |
| 13:24.34 | Kalamadi | Oh! PUN. |
| 13:24.41 | Delsphynx | clever! |
| 13:24.44 | nevcairiel | everybody can reach branches |
| 13:24.46 | [Ammo] | Machine_: self:SetCandyBarTexture( "whateverbar", "zomgthattexturefromebb") |
| 13:25.03 | Machine_ | ooh, that one goes in a text file |
| 13:25.04 | JoshBorke | Rophy: source could be lava, WindFury, shield, backstab. or they can just be set to nil |
| 13:25.04 | Kalamadi | nevcairiel: Sssh, I just had to say that. It was too perfect. |
| 13:25.11 | [Ammo] | machine_: I specifically coded candybar to support whatever texture you want |
| 13:25.41 | Rophy | WindFury, Backstab, Shield are skills; lava is a constant string existed in GlobalStrings.lua, not a %s token. |
| 13:25.47 | Machine_ | [Ammo]: good on ya mate! |
| 13:26.13 | DarkImakuni | zomg commit incoming! |
| 13:26.44 | Machine_ | [Ammo]: i think i have a patch for candybar that adds support for selecting which way to order the bars, would that be interesting? |
| 13:26.46 | Rophy | anyway, the args for each event type will be standardize, I think that's what you were asking? |
| 13:27.10 | Machine_ | [Ammo]: ie growth up sort reverse |
| 13:27.37 | Rophy | just not same args for ALL event types, there are too many possible fields. |
| 13:27.40 | [Ammo] | put it online somewhere and I'll check it out |
| 13:28.42 | Machine_ | [Ammo]: will do |
| 13:28.43 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower_ (n=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 13:28.47 | JoshBorke | Rophy: yes, that is what i'm asking :-) |
| 13:29.10 | [Ammo] | preferably a unified diff machine.. |
| 13:29.18 | Kalamadi | [Ammo]: Ah, svn.wowace.com works again. I didn't think I could reach the branches because I wasn't able to hit it the other day |
| 13:29.44 | DarkImakuni | why isn't CIA-11 reporting my commit? |
| 13:29.47 | Rophy | oh, of course that's the way it should be, and I'm having the 'too many useless args' issue becaue of this. |
| 13:30.04 | Machine_ | [Ammo]: the only kind there is |
| 13:30.48 | DarkImakuni | ~seen CIA-11 |
| 13:31.05 | purl | cia-11 <i=cia@cia.navi.cx> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10h 13m 4s ago, saying: '03gamefaq * r13158 10Squishy/localization.deDE.lua: Squishy - Updated deDE Translation'. |
| 13:31.30 | DarkImakuni | O.o |
| 13:32.05 | FISKER_Q | ~seen hyperChipmunk |
| 13:32.08 | purl | hyperchipmunk is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 20h 34m 21s) #hosernet (1d 20h 34m 21s) #wowace (1d 20h 34m 21s). Has said a total of 261 messages. Is idling for 12h 50m 57s, last said: '=D'. |
| 13:32.18 | FISKER_Q | horsenet? |
| 13:32.20 | FISKER_Q | oh |
| 13:32.22 | FISKER_Q | hosernet :P |
| 13:32.42 | Kalamadi | [Ammo]: EBB2 is quite incomplete, isn't it? |
| 13:33.48 | DarkImakuni | bah, my commits up, but CIA-11 was moved to dev/null/ :( |
| 13:35.40 | [Ammo] | it'c coming along afaik kalamadi |
| 13:36.10 | Kalamadi | Thankee. |
| 13:37.08 | nevcairiel | is there any good addon which increases the size of your tradeskill window? |
| 13:37.17 | nevcairiel | and the same question, for quests? |
| 13:37.39 | Mikma | nevcairiel: elkanos resizedframes |
| 13:37.56 | Azurewrath | i like UberQuests for Quests.. dunno about it's code quality though.. |
| 13:38.36 | Sole | hmm |
| 13:38.46 | nevcairiel | is it on svn? |
| 13:38.59 | Sole | so I remove any candybar using adons except for antagonist, the transparent texture persists |
| 13:39.14 | Sole | if I use the standalone lib of candybar, everything is fine |
| 13:39.29 | nevcairiel | there must be something wrong with your texture setting. |
| 13:39.30 | Sole | but I cant just tell my users to use the stand alone version |
| 13:40.07 | nevcairiel | do you use it as mixin or library? |
| 13:40.07 | Azurewrath | nevcairiel: UberQuest is only there i believe.. http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2780 |
| 13:40.10 | DarkImakuni | Azurewrath: UberQuest's code makes me cry |
| 13:40.36 | nevcairiel | if i dont find anything decent i write my own. |
| 13:40.43 | [Ammo] | Sole: no idea how that happens |
| 13:40.47 | Kalamadi | Hrm. I still cannot find a reliable addon for tracking paladin judgements. |
| 13:40.51 | Sole | nev: both unfortunately |
| 13:41.06 | Sole | I mainly use it as a mixin |
| 13:41.06 | Azurewrath | DarkImakuni: hehe, just realized you contributed to the link i just posted.. funny.. the wow-world is small ;) |
| 13:41.31 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no) |
| 13:41.31 | Sole | but I have to use it as a library also to be able to interate through the running bars |
| 13:41.37 | nevcairiel | Mikma: where would i find it? |
| 13:41.38 | DarkImakuni | hehe :P |
| 13:42.18 | Sole | Ammo: I imagine I fucked something up somewhere on my part :) |
| 13:42.22 | *** part/#wowace MikkZzz (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 13:42.48 | Mikma | nevcairiel: wowi |
| 13:42.53 | nevcairiel | show us the code and we tell you where :D |
| 13:42.56 | [Ammo] | Sole: I've never seen the problems witht he textureless libs |
| 13:43.09 | [Ammo] | or rather with candy used embedded and no textures |
| 13:43.12 | [Ammo] | and I use it quite a lot |
| 13:43.57 | Delsphynx | Sole: Chronometer was having the same issue, and I think Bhattu had a workaround but I don't know what that was (you may already be familiar with this, just thought I would throw it out there anyway) |
| 13:44.07 | nevcairiel | ive had that no texture bug with a too long path |
| 13:44.15 | Sole | i know of hos workaround, doesnt seem to work for me though |
| 13:44.26 | nevcairiel | but if i set the texture on bar creating it always works |
| 13:44.38 | Sole | well its 2:44am |
| 13:44.45 | Sole | so maybe I need a fresh brain to tackle this |
| 13:47.29 | nevcairiel | <a monkey quality product> |
| 13:49.24 | nevcairiel | Ammo where on your todo schedule for oRA2 is the resurrection stuff? knowing who has a soulstone or who was already ressed would be great :) |
| 13:49.50 | axxo | praid! |
| 13:49.51 | *** join/#wowace neale (n=rollo@204.50.77.42) |
| 13:49.52 | Galencia | mmm, cooldown monitor wins |
| 13:50.12 | vhaarr | That's not what he's asking for. |
| 13:50.17 | Galencia | i know |
| 13:50.20 | Galencia | but it still does. |
| 13:50.24 | vhaarr | yeah :) |
| 13:50.30 | Galencia | found it the other day |
| 13:50.35 | Galencia | was like "now, this is cool." |
| 13:50.36 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 13:52.26 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel, what exactly do you mean? |
| 13:52.49 | [Ammo] | galencia: that's why it's called the COOLdown Monitor :p |
| 13:52.50 | nevcairiel | fill oRAOResurrection:oRA_PlayerCanResurrect with code :D |
| 13:53.02 | Galencia | haha |
| 13:55.10 | Galencia | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.42 | Galencia | [Ammo]: i think hes talking about the ct raid thing where you see over someones name "ss available" |
| 13:59.38 | XLVII | nice netsplit.. |
| 13:59.38 | Galencia | indeed |
| 13:59.41 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.41 | *** join/#wowace DarkImakuni (n=mju@host217-43-102-113.range217-43.btcentralplus.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.41 | *** join/#wowace steino (n=stein-iv@ti531210a080-1019.bb.online.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.41 | *** join/#wowace in_der_wueste (n=geforz@p54A789AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.41 | *** join/#wowace cr4zyd (n=cr4zyd@cpe-24-170-16-21.jam.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.41 | *** join/#wowace Clovenhoof (n=klaas@212-100-176-88.adsl.easynet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.41 | *** join/#wowace kebinusan (i=Kebinusa@adsl-68-74-136-200.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.41 | *** join/#wowace BoltR (i=BoltR@S0106000d615b23ea.cg.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.42 | *** join/#wowace Anomoly (n=Anomoly@c-68-39-25-67.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.42 | *** join/#wowace Dvr- (n=dev@host-81-191-100-67.bluecom.no) |
| 13:59.42 | *** join/#wowace navv_ (i=6ed2d6aa@a88-115-97-154.elisa-laajakaista.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.42 | *** join/#wowace Galka (n=Galka@pool-72-88-170-4.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.42 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-186-184.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 13:59.42 | *** join/#wowace Armooo (n=armooo@linode.armooo.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.42 | *** join/#wowace RUBiK (n=rubik@69-167-63-67.stmnca.adelphia.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.43 | *** join/#wowace Somani (i=Bigdaddy@84-73-191-184.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.43 | *** join/#wowace laod (n=laod@129.244.24.131) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:59.43 | *** join/#wowace FISKER_Q (i=blah2@85.24.17.250) |
| 13:59.43 | *** join/#wowace tigg (n=tigg@salmi.tf.uni-kiel.de) |
| 13:59.43 | *** join/#wowace nevcairiel (i=nevcairi@unaffiliated/nevcairiel) |
| 13:59.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by irc.freenode.net |
| 13:59.46 | DarkImakuni | welcome back y'all |
| 14:00.55 | nevcairiel | at least a good client surpresses the join and quit on netsplit. |
| 14:00.57 | *** join/#wowace KaeltenAway (n=Kaelten@68.63.37.188) |
| 14:00.58 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:00.58 | *** join/#wowace neale (n=rollo@204.50.77.42) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:00.58 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:00.58 | *** join/#wowace Iceroth (n=tatexi@dna22-56.tampere.customers.dnainternet.fi) |
| 14:00.58 | *** join/#wowace [Insom]Farns (i=Farnswor@60.234.231.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:00.58 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BC144.versanet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:00.58 | *** join/#wowace Snago (i=Snago@h71n2fls31o808.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:00.58 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=no@222-153-99-6.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:00.58 | *** join/#wowace SH|Shabador (n=shabador@ti400720a080-5027.bb.online.no) |
| 14:00.59 | *** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 14:00.59 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au) |
| 14:00.59 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@85-125-221-75.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:00.59 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=niklas_r@81-229-155-229-o1124.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:00.59 | *** join/#wowace Chippen|TaE (n=thelones@host-83-166-15-67.hernonet.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:00.59 | *** join/#wowace dreyruugr (n=chatzill@68-171-44-192.vnnyca.adelphia.net) |
| 14:00.59 | *** join/#wowace Vathral (i=nn@user-0cev143.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 14:01.00 | *** join/#wowace Delemoose (n=techjoe_@res24853.rh.rit.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.00 | *** join/#wowace frus (i=frus@082-146-097-231.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be) |
| 14:01.00 | *** join/#wowace Tem|Sleep (n=tardmrr@ip68-227-128-41.br.br.cox.net) |
| 14:01.00 | *** join/#wowace Meleganis (i=WinNT@meleganis.rh.rit.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.00 | *** join/#wowace Plorkyeran (n=Knightki@155.33.136.174) |
| 14:01.00 | *** join/#wowace Angeris (n=anger@ppp6-253.adsl.forthnet.gr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.00 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-217-156-188.owb.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.01 | *** join/#wowace Thorias (n=eschack@x1-6-00-e0-f4-12-91-e7.k234.webspeed.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.01 | *** join/#wowace Saroz (n=Saroz@0x50a422a5.slnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.01 | *** join/#wowace Fritti (n=stijn@pcbcf001.win.tue.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.01 | *** join/#wowace mute^ (i=mute@mail.pbnation.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.01 | *** join/#wowace oxman (i=oxman@bau91-1-82-239-244-31.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+oo KaeltenAway Tem|Sleep] by irc.freenode.net |
| 14:01.04 | Galencia | yeah except irssi's netsplit detection sucks, |
| 14:01.05 | *** join/#wowace nuOHEP (n=nuohep@h54.ciscom.ru) |
| 14:01.06 | *** join/#wowace Zicon (i=zicon@rosetta.nwo.no) |
| 14:01.06 | *** join/#wowace Pucmel_ (n=pucmel@dwarf.dkm.cz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.06 | *** join/#wowace jaxdahl (i=Ov@cpe-70-113-55-44.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 14:01.06 | *** join/#wowace axxo (n=axxo@gentoo/developer/axxo) |
| 14:01.06 | *** join/#wowace Meiun (n=CladaM@c213-89-54-240.cm-upc.chello.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.06 | *** join/#wowace JJacobsson (n=joacim@c-fb34e353.01-8-73746f33.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.06 | *** join/#wowace [FH]Birdemani (n=chasingb@adsl-69-211-105-33.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.06 | *** join/#wowace paranoidi (i=marko@float.sillanpaa.jyu.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.07 | *** join/#wowace Gngsk (n=gngsk@c-68-33-204-115.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 14:01.07 | *** join/#wowace chrippa (n=chrippa@ua-83-227-215-26.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.07 | *** join/#wowace pastamancer (n=kyle@vostok.13th-floor.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.07 | *** join/#wowace Codayus (i=cody@66.90.106.40) |
| 14:01.09 | *** join/#wowace clad (i=jnwhiteh@fairfax.dreamhost.com) |
| 14:01.10 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower_ (n=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 14:01.10 | *** join/#wowace Delsphynx (i=Delsphyn@firebox.biotage.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.10 | *** join/#wowace Kalamadi|Sleep (n=root@244-83.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.10 | *** join/#wowace hiflyer (n=icechat5@66.217.181.62.in-addr.dgcsystems.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.10 | *** join/#wowace spg|gone (n=never@d51A49943.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.10 | *** join/#wowace ScriptNinja0 (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.10 | *** join/#wowace [Ammo] (n=wouter@connected.dnd.utwente.nl) |
| 14:01.10 | *** join/#wowace phyber (i=phyber@irssi.co.uk) |
| 14:01.11 | *** join/#wowace Industrial (n=tom@a80-100-243-86.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 14:01.11 | *** join/#wowace claviola (n=claviola@debian/developer/claviola) |
| 14:01.11 | *** join/#wowace trollied (n=phil@pdpc/supporter/active/trollied) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:01.11 | *** join/#wowace PX_Hakker (i=UPP@a82-93-101-11.adsl.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.39 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn|sleep (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.39 | *** join/#wowace revv (n=Miranda@205.174.173.142) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.39 | *** join/#wowace Ancoron|away (n=bla@toaster.amadeus.RWTH-Aachen.DE) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.39 | *** join/#wowace ven_ (n=ven@dynadsl-080-228-65-109.ewetel.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster` (i=Arrow@cpe-24-209-111-105.woh.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#wowace Skyboat (i=t@82-33-30-102.cable.ubr02.stav.blueyonder.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#wowace |Pixel| (i=pixel@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Pixel) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#wowace add\\Leialyn (n=unknown@p54B4DAD5.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#wowace broadcast_ (i=broadcas@r201-217-158-117.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#wowace MvA|Slayman (i=Slayman@c207201.adsl.hansenet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#wowace Thunder_Child (i=user@c-66-229-53-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#wowace Health (n=thecooki@c-7619e655.132-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#wowace yssrn_ (n=chatzill@resnet-17-214.dorm.utexas.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.40 | *** join/#wowace Machine_ (n=tyop@c-a9bce253.016-112-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#wowace nullpuppy (n=dustin@freematrix/staff/nullpuppy) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#wowace hyperChipmunk (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@ohm.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#wowace Angry|Jehdin (i=HydraIRC@c-71-236-3-131.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#wowace lotheac (n=lotheac@lamopinaatti.telemail.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#wowace krka (n=krka@c80-216-103-152.cm-upc.chello.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#wowace BrandX (i=BrandX@CPE0080c6f1f133-CM001225d8ae14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#wowace |Spanky| (i=bah@d154-20-186-211.bchsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.42 | *** join/#wowace blubbo (n=orbit@c-119-234-esk.cust.mdfnet.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.42 | *** join/#wowace edv (i=edv@unaffiliated/edv) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.42 | *** join/#wowace Thrae (n=generalm@c-68-48-83-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 14:02.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+oo Cairenn|sleep hyperChipmunk] by irc.freenode.net |
| 14:02.45 | [Ammo] | it's all alpha/rumours anyway |
| 14:02.46 | *** join/#wowace Andalia (n=xx@p54ADBD09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:02.46 | nevcairiel | and i didnt get ammos answers now, darn. |
| 14:02.46 | neale | meh, you didn't really want them anyway |
| 14:02.46 | neale | :) |
| 14:02.46 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 14:02.46 | neale | oh crap, hi ammo |
| 14:02.46 | [Ammo] | [15:52] < [Ammo]> ah ok |
| 14:02.46 | [Ammo] | [15:53] < [Ammo]> well not sure what I should add there :) |
| 14:02.46 | [Ammo] | [15:53] < [Ammo]> I want an elegant solution |
| 14:02.47 | [Ammo] | [15:53] < [Ammo]> and not something crap |
| 14:02.47 | [Ammo] | [15:53] < [Ammo]> as with the whole of oRA2 I will not settle for a halfarsed solution, I want a proper solution |
| 14:02.47 | neale | hehe |
| 14:02.47 | [Ammo] | spam :p |
| 14:02.47 | clad | heh |
| 14:02.47 | nevcairiel | so get busy =P |
| 14:02.47 | [Ammo] | could have just added the last sentence though |
| 14:02.47 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 14:02.47 | [Ammo] | need to _think_ before I code |
| 14:02.47 | Galencia | well you could do something similar to cooldown monitor |
| 14:02.47 | nevcairiel | thinking is some form of busyness imho |
| 14:02.48 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:02.48 | [Ammo] | I don't produce well thought stuff under pressure |
| 14:02.48 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=Xuerian@12-196-151-175.psknet.net) |
| 14:02.48 | Galencia | sort of like a reverse res monitor |
| 14:03.50 | [Ammo] | but why? you can check your raidframes |
| 14:03.51 | [Ammo] | to see who's alive! |
| 14:03.51 | Galencia | yeah. |
| 14:03.51 | nevcairiel | but not who was resurrected or has a soulstone |
| 14:03.51 | nevcairiel | or who has incarnation ready |
| 14:03.51 | [Ammo] | well events are fired |
| 14:03.51 | Galencia | but a list of "ss ready" people |
| 14:03.51 | DarkImakuni | Can someone download revision 13178 of FuXPFu and tell me I haven't turned into FuXeduPFu? :) |
| 14:03.51 | Galencia | or even a box like /radur etc |
| 14:03.51 | Galencia | with a list of names who can res |
| 14:04.13 | nevcairiel | a back-end table for querying would be enough for me |
| 14:04.35 | [Ammo] | well I fire evnts already |
| 14:04.35 | [Ammo] | I just don't do anything with them |
| 14:04.35 | [Ammo] | you could register for the events :) |
| 14:04.58 | [Ammo] | but I could extend the res monitor with a list on top |
| 14:04.58 | [Ammo] | 'ressed, but not pressed key yet' |
| 14:04.58 | [Ammo] | or something |
| 14:05.33 | Galencia | that would be semi cool |
| 14:05.33 | *** part/#wowace clad (i=jnwhiteh@fairfax.dreamhost.com) |
| 14:05.33 | [Ammo] | if I don't fire events, I'll start firing them |
| 14:05.52 | nevcairiel | you send the messages in participant alrgith |
| 14:05.52 | nevcairiel | but you dont do anything on message receive yet |
| 14:06.11 | [Ammo] | "oRA_PlayerCanResurrect" and "oRA_PlayerResurrected" |
| 14:06.11 | [Ammo] | are the 2 events |
| 14:06.12 | [Ammo] | they are fired |
| 14:06.16 | [Ammo] | because I register the checks in Optional/Resurrection |
| 14:06.21 | nevcairiel | mhm |
| 14:06.31 | [Ammo] | RegisterCheck() makes sure they get fired |
| 14:06.47 | nevcairiel | i thought those where function names you pass to be called, didnt know they are fired as event as well |
| 14:07.26 | [Ammo] | they are fired as events always |
| 14:07.35 | nevcairiel | thats great |
| 14:07.35 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:08.02 | [Ammo] | but I still have to fix some core plumbing so more than one event can be triggered from the same message optionally |
| 14:08.06 | [Ammo] | and the checks are registered per module |
| 14:08.21 | [Ammo] | becuase right now if I unregister a check in one module, and the same check is used in another things can go bonkers |
| 14:09.19 | nevcairiel | if someone dies and has a soulstone, a oRA_PlayerCanResurrect is fired, right? |
| 14:09.27 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:09.31 | [Ammo] | it should be fired |
| 14:09.34 | nevcairiel | good |
| 14:09.36 | nevcairiel | will test that |
| 14:09.49 | [Ammo] | you get the "CANRES" message in first arg, and the player in the second |
| 14:11.07 | *** join/#wowace leech2k (n=leech@deathgrab.com) |
| 14:11.14 | [FH]Birdemani | anyone know if ebb2 will have bantobar textures? |
| 14:11.20 | *** join/#wowace Fritti (n=stijn@pcbcf001.win.tue.nl) |
| 14:11.45 | Xuerian | Seeing as it's becoming the standard texture, if Elk doesn't, I'm sure someone will add it |
| 14:11.55 | nevcairiel | the unit handling of sRF is weird, i should talk to saroz about rewriting it :( |
| 14:12.40 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-137-81-7.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 14:13.04 | Azurewrath | [FH]Birdemani: you always can build in the texture in yourself locally, test it, ask the author and commit it.. or provide a unified diff :) |
| 14:14.34 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=email@host81-157-50-64.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 14:14.47 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 14:15.17 | *** join/#wowace Silv- (n=ircont9k@cpe-075-176-157-107.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 14:18.42 | *** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=Miranda@83.145.59.23) |
| 14:18.47 | Funkeh` | hows everyone today |
| 14:20.28 | DarkImakuni | feeling Funkeh :P |
| 14:20.31 | *** join/#wowace Baraius (n=Baraius@66.219.47.226) |
| 14:20.38 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 14:21.58 | Funkeh` | "BigWigs: Version: Fix sync throttling." is this a fix for that problem i was saying yesterday where it wouldnt show everyones version? |
| 14:24.51 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/dedicapirate.jpg |
| 14:25.27 | DarkImakuni | yarrr |
| 14:25.40 | Mikma | that's complete Bloodsail Buccaneers outfit :) |
| 14:25.51 | Funkeh` | omg |
| 14:25.53 | Funkeh` | givf |
| 14:25.55 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 14:26.05 | [FH]Birdemani | have fun in outlands, goblin cites there as well |
| 14:26.08 | Funkeh` | you need exalted for that? |
| 14:26.16 | Mikma | Funkeh`: friendly |
| 14:26.29 | DarkImakuni | omg gief pirate suit lolz kkthxbye |
| 14:26.30 | *** join/#wowace eternally777 (n=justin@pool-71-254-222-148.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 14:26.37 | FISKER_Q | what does it cost to get back to neutral with the goblins after pk'ing their asses? |
| 14:26.40 | Funkeh` | meh i would have done it long ago but i dont know how i could regrind goblin rep after i got the suit |
| 14:26.52 | Plorkyeran | It's just some gold now |
| 14:26.53 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 14:26.58 | Plorkyeran | Instead of endless pirate farming |
| 14:27.06 | FISKER_Q | some? |
| 14:27.06 | Funkeh` | really? |
| 14:27.10 | FISKER_Q | as in 10-20g? |
| 14:27.14 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 14:27.15 | Plorkyeran | a couple hundred |
| 14:27.17 | Funkeh` | *wishes* |
| 14:27.20 | DarkImakuni | O.o |
| 14:27.30 | Funkeh` | do you still need friendly and gold? |
| 14:27.38 | FISKER_Q | a couple of hundred isn't really "some" imo :P |
| 14:27.41 | Plorkyeran | The hat is free |
| 14:28.02 | FISKER_Q | can you both have friendly with BB and BB? |
| 14:28.05 | Plorkyeran | But now you can get goblin faction back by just giving them a bunch of runecloth like with the main cities |
| 14:28.11 | FISKER_Q | didn't think that one through :P |
| 14:28.14 | Plorkyeran | Yes, but it takes a very long time |
| 14:28.18 | FISKER_Q | a bunch? |
| 14:28.19 | DarkImakuni | nope :P |
| 14:28.24 | FISKER_Q | aka 50 rep pr. 20 runecloth? |
| 14:28.27 | Mikma | Plorkyeran: how? |
| 14:28.44 | Plorkyeran | The pirates near ratchet give goblin faction, but don't hurt pirate faction |
| 14:29.01 | Plorkyeran | 1 ratchet faction a kill, with it sometimes spilling over at 60 |
| 14:29.03 | Plorkyeran | It's slow :P |
| 14:29.18 | Mikma | with priest it's propably easy |
| 14:29.21 | Mikma | massdot all |
| 14:29.24 | Mikma | and watch them die |
| 14:29.36 | Plorkyeran | Rank 1 holy nova would be faster |
| 14:29.44 | Plorkyeran | They're level 10 or so :P |
| 14:29.49 | FISKER_Q | how to quickly get bloodsail rep then? |
| 14:29.50 | Funkeh` | is there a page somewhere that explains this better? P |
| 14:30.02 | Plorkyeran | You get bloodsail rep by farming booty bay guards |
| 14:30.12 | Plorkyeran | Which pretty much requires a group now |
| 14:30.14 | FISKER_Q | probably wowwiki but its down now |
| 14:30.16 | FISKER_Q | damnit |
| 14:30.25 | FISKER_Q | yeah i knew the guards are screwed up now |
| 14:30.27 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 14:30.28 | JoshBorke | you can solo bootby bay guards |
| 14:30.34 | Mikma | yeah |
| 14:30.37 | Xuerian | #1: Never do any quests for the goblins. |
| 14:30.37 | Funkeh` | doubtfull as priest :P |
| 14:30.39 | Xuerian | XD |
| 14:30.46 | Mikma | Funkeh`: i'm a shadowpriest. kk |
| 14:30.53 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 14:30.57 | JoshBorke | what about a disc priest? |
| 14:30.58 | Mikma | i can solo them if i wan't but i gank them with my friend, the rogue :d |
| 14:31.02 | Plorkyeran | If you don't mind DK's some of the quest npcs are soft and respawn instantly |
| 14:31.05 | Mikma | we can kill 5-7 at the same time |
| 14:31.18 | Funkeh` | can you transfer to my server and group up with me? |
| 14:31.24 | Mikma | nope |
| 14:31.28 | Funkeh` | aww |
| 14:31.33 | Mikma | you are on pvp |
| 14:31.39 | Funkeh` | pve |
| 14:31.55 | Mikma | damn |
| 14:32.08 | Mikma | well you are on US |
| 14:32.14 | Funkeh` | EU |
| 14:32.34 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no) |
| 14:32.44 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster`: Please unsuck your commit messages. |
| 14:32.51 | DarkImakuni | zomg the rabbit uses chatzilla |
| 14:32.56 | Funkeh` | rofl |
| 14:33.06 | *** join/#wowace FISKER (i=blah2@85.24.17.250) |
| 14:33.36 | FISKER | so what is the rep gained from giving them runecloth? |
| 14:34.02 | Funkeh` | 50? |
| 14:34.05 | Funkeh` | my guess |
| 14:34.49 | Funkeh` | so to sum up, get friendly, spend some gold, get suit, then give RC to goblins to get rep up again, so you cna end up friendly with pirates and + with BB |
| 14:35.09 | FISKER | how much money for the suit? |
| 14:35.24 | Plorkyeran | The goblin rep fixing quest kills your pirate faction |
| 14:35.42 | Xuerian | Or if you have a friend who wants to trash their pirate rep, you can be in their group as they kill stuff, can you not? |
| 14:35.43 | Funkeh` | can you wear the suit with poor pirate faction after? |
| 14:35.47 | Plorkyeran | yes |
| 14:35.51 | Funkeh` | np then |
| 14:41.11 | DarkImakuni | easier way of getting a pirate outfit: eat a Savoury Deviate Delight :) |
| 14:41.27 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:41.32 | oxman | Health : http://www.c-lafrance.com/wow/PerfectRaid-Revisited2.zip |
| 14:41.38 | Health | Hot |
| 14:41.47 | nevcairiel | the female pirates look like shit, but the ninjas are cool |
| 14:41.54 | oxman | ready since 3 hours, but you haven't send your email :p |
| 14:42.09 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@pD9E0315F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:42.21 | Health | I will test in raid in a few hours :D |
| 14:42.33 | DarkImakuni | ninja > pirate :) |
| 14:42.41 | Health | I'm not sure what clad things about it though.. now when he added that licence stuff |
| 14:43.05 | alkis | when i try to use AceComm I get an error from AceOO that AceComm is not found... |
| 14:43.11 | Xuerian | If it's from the revision before he added the license, it doesn't apply, iirc |
| 14:43.12 | alkis | is there something special about AceComm? |
| 14:43.25 | nevcairiel | are you sure you loaded acecomm? |
| 14:43.53 | alkis | i added that in my toc yes |
| 14:44.01 | nevcairiel | is the file there ? :) |
| 14:44.24 | FISKER | nah |
| 14:44.26 | *** join/#wowace clad (i=jnwhiteh@fairfax.dreamhost.com) |
| 14:44.26 | FISKER | not gonna do it |
| 14:44.31 | FISKER | just saw i had 1337 rep with booty bay |
| 14:44.36 | alkis | it is... |
| 14:44.41 | alkis | weirdness to the max... |
| 14:44.57 | Mikma | i got 0/32000 |
| 14:45.02 | nevcairiel | did you restart the game after changing the .toc? |
| 14:45.06 | Mikma | 36000! |
| 14:45.08 | alkis | yeap |
| 14:45.08 | Mikma | i mean :) |
| 14:45.20 | nevcairiel | Mikma: you cannot ever go to booty bay again, eh ? |
| 14:45.34 | Mikma | nevcairiel: nope, or in ratchet, gadgeztan or everlook. |
| 14:45.55 | nevcairiel | cant you farm the pirates without loosing the other goblin factions? |
| 14:46.00 | Mikma | nope |
| 14:46.02 | Mikma | linked |
| 14:46.11 | nevcairiel | stinks |
| 14:46.17 | Mikma | yes, it does. |
| 14:46.50 | clad | am i going to hell: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=32273782&postId=321208962&sid=1#0 |
| 14:46.53 | clad | ? |
| 14:47.18 | nevcairiel | is it that anti-click-cast-leak ? |
| 14:47.30 | clad | hahah no |
| 14:47.36 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no) |
| 14:47.47 | alkis | argh... restarted again, rechecked evetyhing to no avail... |
| 14:47.57 | nevcairiel | just saw the topic while the page was still loading |
| 14:48.17 | clad | hehe |
| 14:48.20 | clad | just causing trouble. |
| 14:48.29 | *** join/#wowace malreth (n=triti@cpe-72-179-20-11.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 14:48.44 | clad | i have a stock of like 10 emails about click-casting since this morning |
| 14:48.51 | vhaarr | Does WoW have support for textboxes in the staticpopups? |
| 14:49.05 | Mikma | clad: lol |
| 14:49.28 | clad | vhaar: No, but I think there's an extension system for them.. lemme look |
| 14:49.45 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Popup_Simple_Dialog_Boxes#Editable_Text_Fields |
| 14:50.00 | vhaarr | oooh |
| 14:50.03 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: thanks |
| 14:50.05 | vhaarr | clad ^ |
| 14:50.19 | Xuerian | lol clad. |
| 14:50.31 | malreth | CLAD! |
| 14:50.38 | clad | what did i do? |
| 14:52.05 | Xuerian | Everything. It's all your fault. |
| 14:52.11 | malreth | you're funny. |
| 14:52.34 | malreth | "way too lev ur sig" |
| 14:53.15 | clad | shit.. i need to make a "Cladhair" character for trolling. |
| 14:53.27 | Mikma | no make a cladhairy |
| 14:53.32 | clad | even tho that first guy got confused by it.. which.. makes it even funny |
| 14:53.40 | oxman | :p |
| 14:53.53 | clad | Leatherbag is actually a character btw =) Him and Familyjewels are my bank toons =) |
| 14:54.27 | clad | Gnancy is fkinda funny.. never run into that gnome before. |
| 14:54.32 | nevcairiel | but the first answer there is typical forum troll. |
| 14:56.00 | Mikma | oh look, tuplad is at wowi-lounge |
| 14:56.30 | oxman | someone want make a CombatSentryGizmo in ace2? /) |
| 14:56.32 | oxman | :) |
| 14:58.35 | malreth | clad: what first guy? |
| 14:59.17 | nevcairiel | that Gidd |
| 14:59.30 | malreth | yeah... Gidd... did you notice his sig? |
| 14:59.48 | alkis | nevcairiel does it matter in which order i put the acelibs in the toc? |
| 14:59.48 | oxman | nobody for CSG ? |
| 15:00.08 | nevcairiel | alkis: somehow, acelibrary and aceoo should be before everything else |
| 15:00.21 | nevcairiel | aceevent after that, and beyond that it doesnt matter much |
| 15:00.29 | Mikma | oxman: no. |
| 15:00.33 | nevcairiel | you can check the deps of the libs |
| 15:00.35 | *** join/#wowace SilentFov (i=Cvijo@dh72-150.xnet.hr) |
| 15:00.38 | oxman | Mikma :p |
| 15:00.50 | alkis | ah... maybe that's it then... i will push aceevent 3rd in the list |
| 15:01.07 | malreth | Well... Gidd recognized what was going on. I can be sure of that. |
| 15:01.19 | SilentFov | i need help abut error message i got from ACEComm-2.0 or at least i think its from there |
| 15:01.30 | nevcairiel | i need a us account, bleh |
| 15:01.35 | nevcairiel | just for forum posting |
| 15:01.35 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:01.51 | SilentFov | Error: attempt to index local 'color' (a nil value) |
| 15:01.51 | SilentFov | File:Interface\FrameXML\FloatingChatFrame.Lua |
| 15:01.51 | SilentFov | Line: 476 |
| 15:01.51 | SilentFov | Count: 9 |
| 15:02.06 | SilentFov | anyone can help me aubout that ? |
| 15:02.13 | nevcairiel | you run squishy? |
| 15:02.18 | SilentFov | yes |
| 15:02.24 | nevcairiel | thats why. |
| 15:02.29 | SilentFov | oh |
| 15:02.40 | nevcairiel | for some reason squishy causes that |
| 15:02.42 | nevcairiel | no idea why |
| 15:02.44 | SilentFov | but i need squishy :) |
| 15:03.03 | [FH]Birdemani | !! ok, thats what causes that |
| 15:03.08 | Xuerian | SilentFov: Get Bugsack and ignore the errors |
| 15:03.09 | Xuerian | :p |
| 15:03.15 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad] by ChanServ |
| 15:03.17 | alkis | nev... same thing :-S |
| 15:03.17 | [FH]Birdemani | well, i cant access my channels |
| 15:03.44 | [FH]Birdemani | I have bugsack, but when you mouse over Channels it never pops up |
| 15:03.58 | Xuerian | Such is the price of greatness. |
| 15:04.05 | nevcairiel | get a detailed bug report to maia and he might be able to track that down in squishy, or if it really is AceComms fault, forward it to the AceComm author |
| 15:04.07 | SilentFov | oh so its like try catch override :) |
| 15:04.15 | [FH]Birdemani | interesting enough that when I play my warrior I still get that error and I dont have squishy enabled on him |
| 15:04.34 | Xuerian | Listen to nevcairiel. I'm just tired and random ;D /wanders off. |
| 15:04.47 | SilentFov | i fount out 1 more interesting thing about that addon .. if u have less than 5 channels it works ok |
| 15:05.01 | [FH]Birdemani | right, but why would I get it on my warrior that way |
| 15:05.01 | [FH]Birdemani | hrm, i have 7 |
| 15:05.20 | SilentFov | i ment about that bug |
| 15:05.20 | DarkImakuni | maybe the problem is that AceComm-2.0 joins a channel but doesn't give channel colors? |
| 15:05.21 | SilentFov | but yes if u have <= 5 then error wont pop up |
| 15:05.36 | [FH]Birdemani | im thinking it has to be acecomm because I do get it on my warrior |
| 15:06.19 | malreth | there's a problem with AceComm, yes |
| 15:06.31 | malreth | it's with the FloatingChatFrame modification code |
| 15:06.43 | malreth | it tries to hide the com channel from the drop down list |
| 15:06.54 | SilentFov | yes we are aware of that but how to fix it |
| 15:07.05 | Funkeh` | is there any ace2 mod for moving frames? like moveanything |
| 15:07.09 | DarkImakuni | Shouldn't AceComm be using a hidden addon channel? :S |
| 15:07.12 | malreth | Funkeh`: Vizor |
| 15:07.16 | Xuerian | Why is it still using normal comm channels anyway? 0_o |
| 15:07.17 | Funkeh` | ty |
| 15:07.22 | DarkImakuni | Visor is ace1 |
| 15:07.29 | Funkeh` | oh? |
| 15:07.31 | malreth | it uses a com channel for global communication |
| 15:07.45 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-68-57-185-39.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 15:07.51 | malreth | ace1... ace2... wazzit matter? It still works fine. |
| 15:08.03 | DarkImakuni | yep it still works :) |
| 15:08.42 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster (i=Arrow@cpe-24-209-111-105.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 15:08.56 | SilentFov | yes now i tryed to remove all my channels (private channels for guild) and i dont get error message and when i type /join <anyname> error pop up |
| 15:09.18 | SilentFov | when i move mouse on channep menu |
| 15:09.50 | Funkeh` | does bartender have ability to move bagframe etc around? |
| 15:10.00 | Health | Yes. |
| 15:11.00 | SilentFov | anyone can help me how to move maintanks frames from ORA2 ? .. i tried with vizor too but cant grab the frame |
| 15:11.09 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-173.handshake.de) |
| 15:11.11 | oxman | alt + clique right + move |
| 15:11.31 | oxman | or clique left |
| 15:11.33 | oxman | don't remember |
| 15:11.33 | SilentFov | oxman: huh ? |
| 15:12.17 | oxman | :p |
| 15:12.17 | alkis | when you specify a file in the toc that it doesn't exist wow barfs, right? |
| 15:12.18 | oxman | alt+ clique left :) |
| 15:12.18 | DarkImakuni | clique left = left mouse button? :P |
| 15:12.18 | Xuerian | alkis: It silently doesn't load it |
| 15:12.18 | SilentFov | oxman o dpt have clique |
| 15:12.20 | SilentFov | oh |
| 15:12.22 | oxman | :p |
| 15:12.24 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:12.26 | SilentFov | id doesnt work |
| 15:12.27 | Funkeh` | alt + click |
| 15:12.28 | oxman | yep DarkImakuni :D |
| 15:12.29 | SilentFov | i tried that |
| 15:12.30 | Funkeh` | and moves |
| 15:12.30 | oxman | click sorry :D |
| 15:12.36 | SilentFov | id doenst move |
| 15:12.38 | SilentFov | it* |
| 15:12.39 | oxman | it move. |
| 15:12.39 | *** join/#wowace InterCeptor (n=intercep@p509163CF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:12.41 | SilentFov | tried |
| 15:12.44 | Funkeh` | you sure you pressing alt n ot shift? |
| 15:12.46 | Xuerian | If alt+click is assigned in clique, you won't be able to move it. :) |
| 15:12.47 | Funkeh` | i do it all the time |
| 15:12.47 | SilentFov | with every combination |
| 15:12.51 | oxman | Xuerian +1 |
| 15:12.51 | oxman | :p |
| 15:13.00 | SilentFov | i dont use clique |
| 15:13.09 | Xuerian | Or any click casting mod. If you don't use one, well |
| 15:13.32 | Xuerian | Left-Alt-Drag is move for oRA2 mt frames |
| 15:13.40 | malreth | well, i'm about to move the oRA2 tank frames by alt-click-dragging just fine |
| 15:13.40 | Health | Yeah, that's how I move them |
| 15:14.10 | *** join/#wowace bindi (i=indigo@d51A479A6.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:14.17 | SilentFov | hmm .. going to try that again |
| 15:14.54 | DarkImakuni | ~fix CIA-11 |
| 15:15.00 | purl | ACTION takes CIA-11 to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 15:15.49 | Funkeh` | whats wrong witht the poor thing |
| 15:16.03 | Wobin | wtb aced damagemeters |
| 15:16.05 | Wobin | or something |
| 15:16.07 | DarkImakuni | wont broadcast our commits any more :( |
| 15:16.10 | Wobin | swstats is too confusing for me |
| 15:16.29 | Funkeh` | i prefer sw stats |
| 15:17.47 | alkis | so i i put a line on top of AceComm.lua: AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print("hello from acecomm") i should get this when the file is loaded, right? |
| 15:18.31 | alkis | Wobin just use WWS |
| 15:18.40 | Wobin | link? |
| 15:18.42 | neale | WWS? |
| 15:18.50 | *** join/#wowace Vathral|2 (i=nn@user-0cev143.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 15:18.53 | alkis | google it :-) |
| 15:18.58 | alkis | warcraft web stats |
| 15:19.11 | beerke | www.lossendil.fr |
| 15:19.13 | beerke | iirc |
| 15:19.27 | alkis | yeah |
| 15:19.50 | alkis | does Ace2.toc have anything to do with loading libraries? |
| 15:20.19 | DarkImakuni | only if it's in Interface/AddOns/Ace2 |
| 15:20.37 | alkis | :-/ |
| 15:20.44 | Wobin | well... I guess |
| 15:20.51 | Wobin | I was thinking of something more realtime |
| 15:20.56 | Wobin | and ingame |
| 15:21.16 | oxman | recap ? :p |
| 15:21.18 | oxman | swstats ? |
| 15:21.23 | alkis | better to track your raid with WWS and after the raid compile the report and discuss |
| 15:21.42 | Wobin | well, yes. |
| 15:21.43 | Wobin | If I raided |
| 15:21.44 | oxman | +1 alkis |
| 15:21.51 | oxman | I do something like WWS but for priest ;p |
| 15:22.12 | Wobin | more to the point, my raidleader already does something like WWS |
| 15:22.21 | Wobin | but I want one for normal gameplay |
| 15:22.27 | alkis | just use dmgmeters |
| 15:22.47 | beerke | damagemeters or recap or swstats are the only real options afaik |
| 15:23.30 | oxman | kombatstatslog if you want only for you |
| 15:23.31 | oxman | :) |
| 15:25.36 | alkis | ok this is getting on my nerves now... |
| 15:30.19 | nevcairiel | RL:GetUnitObjectFromUnit(unit).sRF_visible <-- syntax like that should work in lua, right? |
| 15:31.02 | malreth | if RL:GetUnitObjectFromUnit() returns a table that has a member named sRF_visible, yes |
| 15:31.08 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 15:31.41 | nevcairiel | unless that unit does not exist *shrug* |
| 15:34.35 | alkis | where should i get libraries now? !!!Libs or !!!Libraries? |
| 15:34.40 | nevcairiel | Libs |
| 15:36.27 | neale | out of each mod :p |
| 15:37.07 | *** join/#wowace Gohei27 (n=Gohei27@233-21.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 15:37.26 | *** join/#wowace Bh (i=fy@cpe-67-10-171-71.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 15:37.50 | SH|Shabador | Is there any way to get a tooltip unstuck from your cursor when it bugs out then to /rl ? |
| 15:38.04 | *** join/#wowace Sairen (n=Miranda@p549E6A07.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:38.07 | SH|Shabador | s/any way/any other way/ |
| 15:38.26 | Funkeh` | is andreas the only author of agUF atm? or anyone else whos online atm? |
| 15:38.31 | *** join/#wowace Delemoose (i=techjoe_@wls00013.rit.edu) |
| 15:39.08 | *** join/#wowace blubbo (n=_@c-119-234-esk.cust.mdfnet.se) |
| 15:40.44 | DarkImakuni | anyone here use FuXPFu? |
| 15:41.54 | Funkeh` | ok if anyones sees him tell him im hunting him ;p |
| 15:42.00 | DarkImakuni | can you update from svn and let me know if its bugged please? :) |
| 15:42.08 | MoonWolf | later |
| 15:42.09 | MoonWolf | sure |
| 15:42.16 | pastamancer | Funkeh`: why are you looking for ag? |
| 15:42.24 | Funkeh` | 2 changes id like :) |
| 15:42.37 | Funkeh` | or think should be made |
| 15:42.40 | pastamancer | tell me more |
| 15:42.50 | deci | http://www.imagesocket.com/view/Nvidia_GeForce_7950_GX2_Quad_SLI191.jpg |
| 15:42.54 | deci | just ordered omg |
| 15:43.00 | Funkeh` | 1. when gouping people together, without player, and you have auras set to below, auto space out |
| 15:43.12 | alkis | still same error: Iinterface\......\Core.lua:1 AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: Library "AceComm-2.0" does not exist |
| 15:43.12 | Xuerian | DarkImakuni: /files work for your needs? |
| 15:43.18 | Funkeh` | 2. when using raid frames and shpwing classes, remove "group and just say class |
| 15:43.44 | Delsphynx | Those are both good changes Funkey |
| 15:43.44 | DarkImakuni | Xuerian: should do :) |
| 15:43.45 | Delsphynx | funkeh* |
| 15:43.50 | Elkano | hmmm... has Blizzard stopped it's effords against private servers? seems like there are so many of them nowadays :/ |
| 15:43.50 | pastamancer | ag is currently reworking the aura display code, and I'm sure 1 will happen when he's finished with it |
| 15:43.56 | Xuerian | Testing then |
| 15:43.57 | Delsphynx | the buff being below the party has been reported before |
| 15:44.15 | pastamancer | I have a patch from a few revisions ago that added spacing |
| 15:44.15 | Funkeh` | are you an author of ag? |
| 15:44.26 | Delsphynx | pasta and I are "contributors" i would say |
| 15:44.30 | neale | del has been working on it |
| 15:44.32 | Delsphynx | andreas is still "the man" |
| 15:44.34 | pastamancer | yeah |
| 15:44.36 | Delsphynx | and I have tab issues :( |
| 15:45.11 | Funkeh` | i dont think the removing group part should require much code changes, could that be done soon? ;p |
| 15:45.21 | Delsphynx | Teedog sent me his patches for a fix to oUF layout which is pretty straight forward, and his inverse health growth bars |
| 15:45.48 | Delsphynx | yeah, I'd have to take a look at where those names are generated on those anchors |
| 15:45.54 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host81-158-13-66.range81-158.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:46.00 | Delsphynx | it would just be the case of putting in a case statement based on the current sorting option |
| 15:46.17 | pastamancer | teedog's patch looked good |
| 15:46.25 | Delsphynx | yeah, looks really straightforward from what he sent me |
| 15:46.33 | Delsphynx | need to update the L[] things in his loc strings |
| 15:46.40 | Delsphynx | but otherwise, yeah, not too bad |
| 15:46.45 | Delsphynx | andreasg never got back with him on it |
| 15:47.53 | Delsphynx | if anyone could shed some light on why whenever I commit my tabs totally get screwed i'd appreciate any insight :) |
| 15:48.01 | Xuerian | DarkImakuni: It works fine for me |
| 15:48.07 | Delsphynx | i'm using SciTE for my editor, and of course Tortoise for the commits |
| 15:48.20 | pastamancer | http://kyle.13th-floor.org/wow/aguf/ag_UnitFrames-aura_spacing.diff is the aura-spacing hack I came up with |
| 15:48.20 | DarkImakuni | zomg I didn't break it? O.o |
| 15:48.33 | Xuerian | Not as far as I can see :P |
| 15:48.53 | DarkImakuni | push it too the limits. something must be wrong. I never commit a working mod :P |
| 15:49.05 | Xuerian | Haha, you and I both. |
| 15:49.14 | Xuerian | Messing around with it :P |
| 15:49.16 | vhaarr | Delsphynx: Because SciTE uses spaces by default. |
| 15:50.29 | Xuerian | DarkImakuni: Only thing I see so far is when it's attached to a bottom bar that isn't full width, it will stay that width if it gets shuffled to a full-width bottom bar (IE it got pushed onto a second bar because of lack of plugin space) |
| 15:50.41 | Xuerian | I'd assume top bars are affected too :P |
| 15:51.01 | Funkeh` | so do you know what i mean about the group thing yeah? when i set it to raid and to classes, each title is "group WARRIOR" for example should be just "WARRIOR" |
| 15:51.30 | DarkImakuni | Xuerian: not my fault :P all I did was replace Metrognome with :ScheduleEvent() |
| 15:51.38 | Xuerian | Then you didn't break it :P |
| 15:51.40 | DarkImakuni | but I might have a look |
| 15:51.44 | DarkImakuni | zomg |
| 15:52.46 | Xuerian | To be more (and less) precise, it has "Problems" moving from floating/sliced bars to normal bars. After going back and forth once it picks a bar and clings for dear life till you reload |
| 15:53.27 | DarkImakuni | I don't use floating bars myself |
| 15:53.28 | pastamancer | Delsphynx: use.tabs.*.lua=8 |
| 15:54.09 | Funkeh` | whats the cia link again? :) |
| 15:54.12 | Xuerian | They're wonderful little inventions when combined with oskin and 0% transparency :p |
| 15:54.29 | Delsphynx | pasta: where do you specify that? the SciTE settings file? |
| 15:54.37 | haste | http://cia.navi.cx |
| 15:55.02 | *** join/#wowace FtH|eagle (i=eagle@HSI-KBW-085-216-057-137.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 15:55.48 | pastamancer | Delsphynx: it looks like you'd add it to c:\path\to\scite\bin\Lua.properties |
| 15:56.08 | alkis | any1 has any other hints on why AceComm is not found? this is really bizzare |
| 15:56.10 | pastamancer | I'm not entirely certain since I use emacs and not scite |
| 15:58.03 | *** join/#wowace Pik|Silvermoon (n=tkieffer@209.159.98.15) |
| 15:58.30 | Delsphynx | is there a better editor then to use? |
| 15:58.40 | DarkImakuni | AceComm is teh b0rked |
| 15:58.55 | JoshBorke | Delsphynx: vim :-D |
| 15:59.02 | pastamancer | heh |
| 15:59.11 | Delsphynx | oh, yeah, vim would work - would need some help on that one too if there are special settings to do :) |
| 15:59.18 | Delsphynx | i'll play around a bit after lunch! |
| 15:59.22 | *** join/#wowace sbu (n=sb@dslb-084-056-162-047.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:59.26 | pastamancer | I think vim's lua mode is fairly sane |
| 16:02.36 | Xuerian | dreyruugr: Ping |
| 16:03.23 | alkis | does the order of mixins matter at all in the Addon constructor? |
| 16:04.11 | DarkImakuni | nope |
| 16:04.32 | DarkImakuni | only the load order in the .toc |
| 16:06.25 | alkis | ok i don't get it... something is going wrong now |
| 16:06.37 | alkis | i added some random characters in AceConsole |
| 16:06.42 | alkis | and then reloaded ui |
| 16:06.50 | alkis | and my addon still loaded fine... |
| 16:07.24 | Machine_ | clad|work: ping |
| 16:08.54 | alkis | can someone point me to an addon that uses AceComm? |
| 16:08.56 | *** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 16:09.01 | DarkImakuni | Squishy |
| 16:09.22 | alkis | thanks |
| 16:10.11 | vhaarr | alkis: RPS |
| 16:10.25 | vhaarr | It's a proof-of-concept for AceComm. |
| 16:12.41 | yacoob | aw, discordmods is back |
| 16:12.56 | neale | darn, was hoping it died a horrible bloated death |
| 16:13.45 | yacoob | what's more: |
| 16:13.50 | vhaarr | Who's schelli? |
| 16:13.51 | yacoob | I also just got some big news that I'm not allowed to discuss in any way whatsoever. But I do have to put all my current work on hold because of it in order to work on some new, huge projects (that I can't talk about). |
| 16:13.59 | yacoob | ...says Loz. |
| 16:14.04 | yacoob | OUCH! |
| 16:14.09 | yacoob | this damaged my brain: |
| 16:14.19 | yacoob | There's actually a simple way you can filter out all spam on all channels that contain a keyphrase you specify. You can do it through DAB/DART's scripting even. |
| 16:14.50 | neale | new, huge projects that i can't talk about - i'm getting a haircut |
| 16:15.14 | yacoob | sh! don't talk about it! |
| 16:15.24 | neale | oh crap, sorry |
| 16:15.48 | alkis | vhaar: thanks for the pointer... retrying now.. |
| 16:16.45 | alkis | blah |
| 16:16.49 | alkis | still same... /cry |
| 16:17.15 | alkis | does any1 have time to check the code a bit and tell me if he sees anything? |
| 16:17.34 | Xuerian | Wait for ckk to get on. Isn't it his baby? |
| 16:17.59 | yacoob | hm |
| 16:18.02 | alkis | it is but i doubt this has something to do with acecomm |
| 16:18.09 | alkis | it doesn't even load |
| 16:18.14 | yacoob | are there any evil plans to give onebag similar "sorting" capabilities as engbags? |
| 16:18.17 | alkis | aceoo complains that there is no such thing |
| 16:18.18 | Xuerian | Oh. hm, what were you talking about? :P |
| 16:18.23 | yacoob | (without "lagging" capabilities, of course :) |
| 16:18.40 | Xuerian | yacoob: MrPlow, or drop OneBag and try PlowKing |
| 16:19.05 | Xuerian | alkis: Paste your code @ http://ace.pastey.net |
| 16:19.29 | yacoob | Xuerian, MrPlow don't cut it, and PlowKing... I believe I tried it and there was something about it I disliked :) |
| 16:19.55 | Xuerian | No clue then, yacoob. =P.. engbags is a beauty of a monster |
| 16:20.03 | yacoob | yep |
| 16:20.06 | yacoob | that's why I ditched it |
| 16:20.31 | Xuerian | I've just been using normal bags and plow, or onebag and plow |
| 16:20.36 | Xuerian | Not the same =( |
| 16:20.36 | yacoob | but as much as I got used to onebag, I already missed some stuff to sell or questitem, because of forgetting to sort |
| 16:20.53 | Tuller | I just have the "sell grey items" button |
| 16:21.11 | alkis | http://ace.pastey.net/1380 |
| 16:21.14 | Machine_ | yacoob: advanced bags plus is nice, not aced 'tho |
| 16:22.21 | Xuerian | alkis: You've checked logs/framexml.log ? |
| 16:22.41 | alkis | nope... don't even know what that is :-p |
| 16:22.43 | alkis | checking now |
| 16:22.55 | Xuerian | lol, yacoob |
| 16:23.15 | yacoob | Xuerian, don't you love MrPlow mesages? :) |
| 16:23.41 | Xuerian | Haha, yeah. Always entertaining to watch stuff move around with appropriate narration XD |
| 16:24.52 | Xuerian | alkis: It's in wow/logs/framexml.log, it's the startup of all addons |
| 16:25.02 | yacoob | but it actually makes sense ONLY if you listen to the sounds... :) |
| 16:25.34 | Xuerian | Mm, sounds? There's actually sounds? >.> |
| 16:25.44 | yacoob | sounds of items being picked up/dropped in slot |
| 16:25.53 | yacoob | sometimes it fits so nicely to the messages :D |
| 16:25.56 | Xuerian | Oh. lol |
| 16:26.00 | yacoob | oh, cgCrafty dead? |
| 16:26.18 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-133-60-32.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:26.47 | alkis | Xuerian... so i get error on all files :-/ |
| 16:26.50 | Somani | Xuer: ur my Loot-God, what do u think about aceing Raidtracker? <3 |
| 16:27.15 | yacoob | hm |
| 16:27.17 | alkis | lol... so here's what i guess it is... toc wants \ as a path separator? |
| 16:27.30 | yacoob | wasn't there aced "do funny stuff when Nightfall procs" addon? |
| 16:27.39 | Xuerian | Somani: Not till XLoot, Monitor, Group and Boss are done. I burn out in seconds when I re-write mods, and I'm already burned out on wow itself =( |
| 16:28.36 | Xuerian | I will be adding some simple loot tracking, like was requested on the forums (Keeping the stack of items in memory instead of overwriting each thing in sync with the frames, and allowing the full stack to be displayed on request) |
| 16:28.51 | Somani | Group and Boss? ;) |
| 16:29.10 | *** join/#wowace [OW]Karn (n=karnspam@cpc3-glfd1-0-0-cust609.glfd.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:29.28 | Somani | Tracking means also make it compatible to eqdkp ;) |
| 16:29.39 | [OW]Karn | anyone know if bigwigs has its own irc channel? or will this one do? |
| 16:29.40 | Xuerian | Somani: Group is going to use the same display format with a status bar in the background, and need/greed/pass buttons to one side, on a different stack |
| 16:29.56 | alkis | Xuerian: thanks! fixed now |
| 16:30.00 | Xuerian | Somani: Boss is going to sync with XLoot and perhaps bigwigs to let everyone see what's on boss corpses when they're looted |
| 16:30.19 | Xuerian | alkis: lol, I missed your question, sorry, glad you got it working |
| 16:30.30 | Somani | Boss will be nice for me, no ugly Linking Boss-Loot ;) |
| 16:30.36 | *** join/#wowace leech2k (n=leech@deathgrab.com) |
| 16:30.48 | Xuerian | Somani: I'll be keeping anything I do modular, so you'll be able to add it if I haven't, easily |
| 16:30.53 | Xuerian | (Regarding dkp) |
| 16:31.12 | [OW]Karn | is there any modules out for bigwigs that shows status on BGs? |
| 16:31.14 | Machine_ | textures can be non-square right? as long as they're a power of 2? |
| 16:31.17 | yacoob | What are those .nopatch files? |
| 16:31.19 | Somani | kk, i will push you there :p |
| 16:31.27 | alkis | Xuerian: in toc you can only use \ as path sep and not /. that was the problem. the fact everything else was working was because bigwigs was laoing everything else except AceComm |
| 16:31.27 | yacoob | what do they stamp for, I mean? :) |
| 16:31.39 | Xuerian | alkis: Ahhhh |
| 16:31.48 | *** join/#wowace JensRex (n=jens@unaffiliated/jens) |
| 16:31.56 | neale | karn: BG as in battlegrounds? why would bigwigs care about battlegrounds? |
| 16:32.32 | Xuerian | [OW]Karn: Isn't there a BattlegroundFu that shows a metric asston of info on bg's? |
| 16:32.33 | [OW]Karn | why shouldnt it? it has everything in place to do it, and it would save having another mod there to do the same job. all it needs is maybe something to countdown for each flag how long it has left to capture |
| 16:32.57 | [OW]Karn | I wouldnt know about Fu because i dont have FuBar |
| 16:33.12 | Xuerian | [OW]Karn: FuBar plugins don't require fubar. |
| 16:33.16 | yacoob | [OW]Karn, you don't need fubar :) |
| 16:33.20 | yacoob | (tricky, eh? :) |
| 16:33.26 | Royal | waaah |
| 16:33.30 | Royal | I never knew that! |
| 16:33.35 | Xuerian | [OW]Karn: If you don't have fubar, they pop up with a draggable (On and off the minimap button) icon |
| 16:33.35 | yacoob | that is, if it's plugin for fubar 2.0, and bgfu IS 2.0ed |
| 16:33.48 | yacoob | Royal, every day man learns new thing |
| 16:33.50 | Xuerian | s/minimap button/minimap circle\square/ |
| 16:34.00 | [OW]Karn | lol |
| 16:34.15 | *** join/#wowace Espa (n=espa@wkstn109-234.harbin.georgetown.edu) |
| 16:34.16 | Royal | What about the mods that diusplay a line of text? Like performancefu |
| 16:34.24 | Xuerian | Wouldn't show up. |
| 16:34.28 | Xuerian | Only in tooltip. |
| 16:34.30 | Royal | Will it pop up the text frame as well? |
| 16:34.33 | Royal | All right |
| 16:34.38 | yacoob | Royal, they don't display line of text, only thing you get is button + tooltip |
| 16:34.40 | alkis | btw i get this in FrameXML.log: 9/6 18:31:50.868 Loading add-on BigWigs |
| 16:34.41 | alkis | 9/6 18:31:50.868 ** Loading table of contents Interface\AddOns\BigWigs\BigWigs.toc |
| 16:34.41 | alkis | 9/6 18:31:50.868 Couldn't open Interface\AddOns\BigWigs\ |
| 16:34.43 | Xuerian | Since that's what FuBar itself handles |
| 16:34.48 | Royal | Hmk, I see |
| 16:34.55 | Xuerian | alkis: O_o |
| 16:34.56 | [OW]Karn | what i was thinking was using the bigwigs message and bar frames to show how long it will take before a flag is captures, or before a tower is destroyed |
| 16:34.57 | neale | anyway. BigWigs is a boss timer and warning mod. it's not a bg tracker. |
| 16:35.00 | alkis | but still bigwigs loads :-) |
| 16:35.20 | alkis | Tekkub maybe can shed some light on it |
| 16:35.23 | neale | aren't there other mods that do that already? im not a bg guy, but im sure there is a mod which tracks captures etc |
| 16:35.29 | Xuerian | [OW]Karn: Sounds like a Chronowhatsit' job |
| 16:35.43 | [OW]Karn | there is ... but why run two mods when one will do? |
| 16:35.46 | [OW]Karn | it was just a thought |
| 16:36.10 | yacoob | neale, there's a bar addon for ab for sure, and I think I saw a separate for av. |
| 16:36.10 | Xuerian | [OW]Karn: But that's against Ace philosophy, why make one mod bigger to do something unrelated to it's origional purpose? ;) |
| 16:36.12 | neale | why add unrelated functionality that only some people will use |
| 16:36.24 | neale | that's what i meant to say |
| 16:36.48 | *** join/#wowace maia (n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 16:36.52 | neale | hi maia |
| 16:36.55 | Xuerian | A plugin for that mod, sure, or another mod, or... something. :P |
| 16:37.01 | maia | heya... |
| 16:37.12 | maia | finally found the Detox bug. |
| 16:37.17 | Xuerian | Duck'n cover, maia! AceComm issues are flying like t-shirts out of cheerleader's cannons! |
| 16:37.27 | [OW]Karn | you wouldnt have to add anything to bigwigs if its a module. whats ugly with most UI's is the number of elemeents that essentially do the same thing, but having multiple instances because people didnt make things modular |
| 16:37.33 | maia | its Nightddews fault, SpellStatus is buggy. |
| 16:37.45 | maia | Xuerian: huh? :) |
| 16:37.48 | Xuerian | lol |
| 16:37.52 | Xuerian | Nevermind :P. |
| 16:38.03 | Xuerian | [OW]Karn: Someone could make a BigWigs plugin, I suppose |
| 16:38.19 | neale | or chronometer |
| 16:38.26 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 16:38.40 | maia | I assume ckk still hasnt renewed his game card for wow? |
| 16:38.55 | [OW]Karn | lol Xuerian: thats what i was wondering ... does one exist. obviously it doesnt :) |
| 16:38.56 | Xuerian | I don't remember him saying he did yet =\ |
| 16:39.16 | maia | because he once stated he'd need to do so to fix AceComm. |
| 16:39.18 | Xuerian | [OW]Karn: Oh. Haha, well, make sure you mention plugin next time =D. Plugins make what's bad, good XD |
| 16:39.31 | Xuerian | >.< |
| 16:39.31 | neale | hehe |
| 16:39.38 | [OW]Karn | lol |
| 16:39.40 | neale | i'm like "fuck, why would we add THAT to bigwigs?!!" :) |
| 16:39.54 | neale | plugin=good |
| 16:41.03 | [OW]Karn | hmm ... now i've looked at bigwigs source briefly i'm not liking the way the "modular" system is done. it makes sense but having to declare each of a modules lua files in the toc is ugly imo. |
| 16:41.17 | axxo | any bar mod, that will let me show a x*y button grid, and show them on mouse over, with a 'sticky' button so they stay visual somewhere? and thats not discord from hell ;x |
| 16:41.34 | vhaarr | [OW]Karn: And that's our fault? |
| 16:41.38 | [OW]Karn | no |
| 16:41.41 | [OW]Karn | didnt say it was |
| 16:41.45 | vhaarr | Then how does it matter? |
| 16:41.47 | [OW]Karn | just said i was disapointed :P |
| 16:41.50 | vhaarr | Blame Blizzard, move on. |
| 16:41.50 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host81-157-175-142.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:41.56 | neale | how about you take bigwigs, rip it apart, take the parts you want, modify it, and rename it to release as your own mod :) jk maia sorry |
| 16:41.58 | Xuerian | [OW]Karn: Were you looking at a bigwigs mod like ThaddiusArrows, or the core itself? |
| 16:42.14 | [OW]Karn | the core itself |
| 16:42.41 | vhaarr | Obviously. |
| 16:42.47 | Xuerian | Wouldn't one of the mods/plugins be a better example to look at, or was it just a general comment on the way it works? |
| 16:42.49 | [OW]Karn | currently each of the "modules" (each boss) is declared in the main bigwigs toc, so if you wanted to add a new mod you have to edit the toc each time |
| 16:42.51 | yacoob | hehe, lastest fubar_uFriends and uGuild is packed without externals :> |
| 16:42.55 | malreth | [OW]Karn: what does it matter what's in the .toc anyways? |
| 16:42.56 | maia | If Blizzard really disabled TargetUnit() and CastSpell*() in BC, I'm seriously considering quitting wow. It'll break all of my combat addons. |
| 16:42.56 | malreth | it |
| 16:43.04 | malreth | it's a metadata file |
| 16:43.14 | malreth | it doesn't have to look nice... it just has to work |
| 16:43.32 | vhaarr | maia: err .. I don't think we should discuss NDA-covered material in here. |
| 16:43.38 | nevcairiel | quit wow because some addons dont work anymore ? i dont think its worth playing right now then :P |
| 16:43.41 | Xuerian | yacoob: The zip script seems to go on dictative "Addons don't need embeds" rants |
| 16:43.42 | [OW]Karn | its how it works that has to be nice though. the idea of a modular design is simplicity in adding and removing modules :) |
| 16:43.56 | Xuerian | vhaarr: At this point, it's not even NDA covered, it's completely rumor |
| 16:44.04 | maia | vhaarr: I'm not discussing NDA-covered material - I'm only commenting a rumor I'm neither confirming or denying. |
| 16:44.19 | Xuerian | Nonetheless, I get to whack anyone who brings it up wth my Flaming Cursor Staff of Nerfed Doom :) |
| 16:44.22 | Xuerian | So said clad =O |
| 16:44.23 | yacoob | maia, what addons will it break, for you? |
| 16:44.32 | vhaarr | All combat addons. |
| 16:44.32 | yacoob | Xuerian, that's bad, because I don't have externals flying around. |
| 16:44.38 | yacoob | vhaarr, like? |
| 16:44.45 | maia | yacoob: give me a minute to write them down. |
| 16:44.46 | vhaarr | Clique, Detox? |
| 16:44.53 | [FH]Birdemani | squishy |
| 16:44.59 | vhaarr | Those are the major ones. |
| 16:45.12 | Xuerian | yacoob: Using !!!Libs is blissful on mods you're not actively working on. It makes reloadui's snappy :D |
| 16:45.13 | malreth | might as well stop playing now then |
| 16:45.16 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt stop playing just because the addons break, thats a stupid reason to quit. |
| 16:45.18 | [FH]Birdemani | also ToToT |
| 16:45.29 | nevcairiel | if you cannot play without addons, you should not play at all :) |
| 16:45.33 | vhaarr | ToToT won't break. |
| 16:45.40 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: that's bullshit |
| 16:45.48 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: Anyone can play without their addons |
| 16:45.51 | *** join/#wowace broadcast_ (i=broadcas@r200-125-62-139-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 16:45.58 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: It's WANTING to play without their addons, that's in question :) |
| 16:45.59 | neale | i agree with vhaarr. i can play without addons, but i don't want to. |
| 16:46.05 | vhaarr | yep |
| 16:46.07 | neale | it makes my life easier. |
| 16:46.11 | yacoob | Xuerian, but in order to take advantage of that, ALL mods should be stripped of externals, and basically it will make Ace2 standalone dependency :D |
| 16:46.14 | neale | AND it makes the game more damn fun |
| 16:46.19 | alkis | play and wipe is different |
| 16:46.22 | malreth | people all said the same thing back when they restricted the movement functions |
| 16:46.24 | nevcairiel | its still BS to stop playing _only_ because you cannot click-cast anymore. |
| 16:46.26 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 16:46.29 | Machine_ | i can't play without addons. i'm not a clicker so i need all the help i can get to avoid having to use up every letter on the keyboard |
| 16:46.44 | *** join/#wowace NinjaChimp (n=chemp@host86-135-49-82.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:46.51 | Xuerian | yacoob: I know, that's why I just suggest it as a personal use. I just used windows to search for "Libs" or "lib" and deleted all the folders that came up en-masse, after zipping my addons dir |
| 16:47.13 | maia | all unit frame addons (PerfectRaid, agUF, squishy), XRS, ChatCast, FastCast, FuBar_CorkFu, JustClick, Clique, PerfectTargets, SmartRes, Detox. |
| 16:47.34 | yacoob | why would it bork unitframe addons? |
| 16:47.40 | maia | guys, keep in mind some people are impaired and e.g. can't use a mouse. |
| 16:47.58 | maia | yacoob: because all unitframe addons use TargetUnit() if you click on a unit frame. |
| 16:48.12 | yacoob | heh |
| 16:48.25 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: BS in your opinion or not, I hate healing without clickhealing. Clickhealing doesn't make anything easier than it should be, think of it like this: Blizzard's interface is simulating a VR. Click-actions just make it easier to interact with that VR for some people. It's more intuitive for me, for example |
| 16:48.32 | maia | well, you can still watch the health bars - but you can't click them anymore ;) |
| 16:48.39 | nevcairiel | i think the rumor only involved SpellTargetUnit |
| 16:48.53 | [FH]Birdemani | Bliz wants custom UIs, Nurfed works on the Alpha according to rumors. There will be ways to make new unit frames. Action bars may need to be more like bartender2 |
| 16:48.56 | maia | nevcairiel: nope. CastSpell*() |
| 16:49.05 | neale | so you have to visually, on the screen, find the person and click on him to target him for a heal? |
| 16:49.18 | maia | neale: yes - or use the blizzard unit frames. |
| 16:49.19 | nevcairiel | maia: yea, castspell and spelltagetunit, but not the "normal" targetunit |
| 16:49.21 | neale | hahahahah |
| 16:49.32 | neale | if they do that, they are insane. |
| 16:49.35 | yacoob | that's why they're limiting the instance people limit... :D |
| 16:49.45 | yacoob | less crowd -> easier to spot :P |
| 16:49.45 | malreth | neale: you should follow that logic |
| 16:50.03 | nevcairiel | i guess you _could_ use the default blizzard raid frames and simply change their skin tho |
| 16:50.06 | Royal | Using MiniPrfsFu now, since I just learned you didn't need Fubar for Fubar plugins >< But, none of the numbers are getting updated, is this addon working? :o |
| 16:50.29 | Royal | And yes, I clicked the icon, still nothing updating :P |
| 16:50.44 | nevcairiel | Royal: it needs a minute or so after login to start working, for some reason |
| 16:50.54 | neale | malreth: it's a game. it's supposed to be fun. trying to actually spot the guy so i can click on him is borderline insanity. |
| 16:51.03 | maia | neale: well, consider the fact that Detox would work without SpellTargetUnit(). Now ask yourself again if they arent also removing TargetUnit(). |
| 16:51.05 | malreth | that's right. it would be insane |
| 16:51.08 | malreth | and totally not fun |
| 16:51.19 | malreth | so... why would blizzard make their game not fun |
| 16:51.31 | nevcairiel | maia: if they remove CastSpell* and UseAction, it doesnt matter if TargetUnit works, or am i missing soemthing? |
| 16:51.34 | yacoob | neale, diehard unix freaks took over the game developement |
| 16:51.44 | yacoob | you WOULD be able to do everything, BUT from command line :D |
| 16:51.50 | neale | :) |
| 16:51.58 | maia | nev: all unit frame addons will break - or how would you implement OnClick()? |
| 16:52.02 | neale | we solved that problem with deucecommander :) |
| 16:52.09 | yacoob | find . -type druid -name a\* -exec heal -rank 2 '{}'\; |
| 16:52.19 | malreth | maia: again... where have you heard that all unit frame addons will break |
| 16:52.48 | malreth | all we have are rumors and hearsay |
| 16:52.51 | maia | nevcairiel: oh, also oRA and others are hooking stuff like UseAction(). It'll therefor also break HealSync, HealWatch,... |
| 16:53.08 | Royal | nevcairiel, I see, I was impatient =) It's working now |
| 16:53.09 | malreth | a 'report' from an end-user of an addon told through someone else |
| 16:53.22 | maia | malreth: all I heard is that TargetUnit() is gone. And I can't think of a way to implement clickable unit frames without TargetUnit() |
| 16:53.30 | Royal | Only 1 thing, what's the "short text" function? Since nothing of the tooltip text changes when I enable/disable this |
| 16:53.49 | nevcairiel | maia: well the default unit frames have to target somehow |
| 16:53.49 | malreth | maia: right... we don't have any information really, then |
| 16:53.51 | Xuerian | Royal: That's part of the fubar part |
| 16:53.58 | nevcairiel | maia: you could re-skin them and use their scripting |
| 16:54.13 | maia | nevcairiel: the default unit frames are 'secured' and can use more than our API |
| 16:54.42 | nevcairiel | can you change their skin now? make them look like whatever? |
| 16:54.42 | Royal | Xuerian, all right, thought it might also shorten tooltip text |
| 16:54.49 | neale | malreth: we don't have any real information yet... but i personally am scared by what i am hearing |
| 16:54.49 | malreth | you're making conclusions based on potentially unreliable, misinformed, and possibly mislead second-hand information |
| 16:55.01 | yacoob | malreth, that's what's hot! :D |
| 16:55.08 | malreth | yacoob: :D |
| 16:55.10 | Xuerian | neale: Right, it is scary, but it's all here-say for now |
| 16:55.17 | neale | xuerian: true enough |
| 16:55.18 | Xuerian | No point singing the doom song till we know the words |
| 16:55.30 | maia | malreth: yes, thats why I initially said "if blizzard really disabled ... in BC, then..." |
| 16:55.31 | malreth | people have a tendency to overblow something that they don't understand |
| 16:55.48 | neale | i don't think anyone is singing the doom song, but people are concerned and thinking around the potential implications |
| 16:56.18 | Xuerian | You have to admit though, malreth, nerfing scripting stuff is like snipping bobbly-bits to scripters |
| 16:56.24 | Xuerian | And I like my bobbly-bits =( |
| 16:56.34 | yacoob | ghaaaa, oCB doesn't support flightmap still :( |
| 16:56.48 | malreth | Xuerian: people said the same thing about movement functions and AutoTravel |
| 16:56.53 | yacoob | (or the other way around. Don't matter, I'm an end user :) |
| 16:57.06 | [FH]Birdemani | Bliz is using 2.0 as a way/excuse to make the changes they have wanted for a long time. Certain things have annoyed them along the way such as decursive among other things (I think I read once they were not fond of MobHealth type mods) |
| 16:57.14 | Xuerian | malreth: Course they did, and the same about inspect. Hell, I said the same thing about inspect. It doesn't make me miss it any less that they've done it before and will do it again |
| 16:57.18 | haste | yacoob: it never fucking will either |
| 16:57.29 | [FH]Birdemani | so expect anything to change, but slouken has made some interesting factual changes as well IMO |
| 16:57.30 | haste | especially since the author flames it all the time |
| 16:57.33 | nevcairiel | they never liked some addons, but i dont see any reason breaking all UF addons |
| 16:57.38 | haste | without knowing what he's actually talkinga bout |
| 16:58.06 | neale | what does flightmap do that tofu doesn't? |
| 16:58.12 | [FH]Birdemani | Tivoli has mentioned that his UI should work on the beta |
| 16:58.14 | maia | Birdemani: the simple solution to get rid of Detox is changing some boss events that mass-debuff and doubling the mana cost for dispelling. |
| 16:58.19 | malreth | neale: it draws nice little lines on maps for you |
| 16:58.36 | malreth | so you can see on the world map the flightmpas |
| 16:58.47 | malreth | s/mpa/map/ |
| 16:59.10 | yacoob | haste, why do you chase me, Mechanical Ye... err... I mean... |
| 16:59.18 | yacoob | ah, you said why. Boo :( |
| 16:59.23 | yacoob | ToFu. Let's see... |
| 16:59.25 | Xuerian | maia: Not really, priority lists ftw :) |
| 16:59.31 | nevcairiel | maia: that change would not get rid of detox, still someone would have to clean the debuffs |
| 16:59.39 | haste | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-883-1-flightmap.html << read what he says in the comments there |
| 16:59.40 | [FH]Birdemani | maia: I understand and agree. But I think they are using broad strokes to make changes now. When WoW went live they didnt have long term plans or functionality built in. They are doing it backwards and implementing changes that will make future expansions easier and quicker (ie less retroactive changes) |
| 16:59.42 | haste | and yes, it pissed me off |
| 17:00.19 | malreth | gonna go eat lunch... yom |
| 17:00.19 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower|AFK (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 17:00.21 | maia | well, it won't only break the "spam keybinding to mass-cure" part of Detox, but also the tooltip-clicking to cure a specific unit. |
| 17:00.24 | *** join/#wowace CIA-17 (i=cia@cia.navi.cx) |
| 17:00.44 | Xuerian | True enough |
| 17:00.56 | Xuerian | Then agian it might not break it, or it might be a partial-break like inspect first was :) |
| 17:01.03 | CIA-17 | 03maia * r13187 10Detox/Detox.lua: Detox: possible fix for cleaning bug (which seems to be caused by a bug in SpellStatusLib or SpellCacheLib) |
| 17:01.33 | [FH]Birdemani | developers became more creative than blizzard realized they would, and now they are building in precautionary measures that WILL piss off many |
| 17:01.45 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower|AFK (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 17:01.59 | [FH]Birdemani | i was LIVID when i first heard about 25 man raids....now I am apathetic about it and will just do whatever if I still play the game |
| 17:02.29 | maia | I've been playing a healer for years now. Being able to focus on the fight and a small emergency monitor like Squishy in the middle of the screen is a huge advantage over having to use the default blizzard raid frames, as I'd then only stare at the unit frames. I could turn off the 3D environment, as I wouldnt have any time to watch the fight anyway. |
| 17:02.40 | yacoob | haste, hm. What pissed you off exactly? |
| 17:02.46 | Xuerian | [FH]Birdemani: Whereas I like the idea, it'll make it easy for my guild to have two raids going instead of one (Not enough for 2 40's, too many for one), and will let me raid, since my 56k can do 20's but not 40's, just too much raw data |
| 17:02.55 | yacoob | haste, that he changed (going to change?) the method of hooking? |
| 17:02.57 | neale | being told that oCB hacked the flight timers maybe |
| 17:02.59 | haste | yacoob: he comparing oCB to eCB, and saying they both did the same shit towards FM |
| 17:03.14 | haste | oCB doesn't touch FM |
| 17:03.19 | haste | and it will neither do so either |
| 17:03.25 | haste | it's outside it's scope |
| 17:03.26 | haste | eod |
| 17:03.31 | [FH]Birdemani | maia: ive raided with a pally in MC and have found out that its just whack a mole if I didnt have detox and squishy, and it bored me to tears before that |
| 17:03.48 | yacoob | I don't see anything negative in his words, it's just he didn't check it. Why the anger? |
| 17:04.39 | [FH]Birdemani | btw, Hellgate London doesnt look that bad :p |
| 17:04.40 | Xuerian | I'm with maia on this one. If I'm going to sit and watch a bunch of bars all day (The only practical way to heal big raids), I want them to be pretty and informative |
| 17:05.18 | neale | hellgate london looks awesome. |
| 17:05.34 | Xuerian | Hellgate London? o.0 |
| 17:05.35 | [FH]Birdemani | xuerian: sometimes as a tank I use squishy just so i know whats going on in the raid |
| 17:05.42 | [FH]Birdemani | just google it |
| 17:05.46 | [FH]Birdemani | then google the company |
| 17:05.47 | yacoob | thing is, I'd like to have the flightmap main functionality (all fm points visible from start) PLUS the timing bar for flying |
| 17:05.49 | Xuerian | <-- lazy |
| 17:05.54 | Xuerian | <-- wants you to tell him |
| 17:06.06 | [FH]Birdemani | hellgate london: action rpg made by the guys that made Diablo2 |
| 17:06.08 | Xuerian | [FH]Birdemani: So do I, actually |
| 17:06.11 | Xuerian | Win =D |
| 17:06.12 | *** join/#wowace lacindas (n=m0ney_d@76.19.51.225) |
| 17:06.18 | Xuerian | Sounds cool. Must google now. |
| 17:06.21 | lacindas | mornin folks |
| 17:06.34 | Xuerian | Heya lacindas :p |
| 17:06.39 | lacindas | sup X ;P |
| 17:06.47 | Xuerian | Running from [FH]Birdemani. |
| 17:06.51 | [FH]Birdemani | hehe |
| 17:06.53 | yacoob | oh, btw. How complete/trusted is this WinAceUpdater that I see at top of the files listing? :) |
| 17:06.57 | lacindas | lol whatld u do this time? |
| 17:07.00 | maia | Birdemani: well, that was the reason I wrote Squishy: to combine perfectraid and an enhanced emergency monitor. I don't need any other unit frame for 40main raids besides Squishy. Which is a big help when playing on 1024x768. |
| 17:07.06 | Xuerian | Nothing in particular XD |
| 17:07.11 | lacindas | lol X |
| 17:07.17 | maia | (err, I do have a target frame though) |
| 17:07.32 | lacindas | yacoob: WinAceUpdater is very trusted and works well |
| 17:07.42 | [FH]Birdemani | no argument here maia, it sucks if true. but we dont know the full extent to the truth....so..... |
| 17:07.44 | Xuerian | yacoob: What lacindas said. Just make sure to backup your addons folder |
| 17:07.49 | [OW]Karn | has the wowace wiki moved? |
| 17:07.54 | yacoob | maia, you don't have all raid frames, only squishy and mt? |
| 17:07.58 | Xuerian | [OW]Karn: www.wowace.com |
| 17:08.00 | lacindas | its still in progress so to speak, but ver 1, which is up for dl is very nice :) |
| 17:08.22 | maia | yacoob: yeah, only myself, target, targettarget and squishy. plus XRS for a quick overview. |
| 17:08.22 | yacoob | lacindas, somewhat reluctantly I'm giving it a try... :) |
| 17:08.44 | [FH]Birdemani | I turned off raid frames on my pally last MC. Used my party frame, detox, squishy, bigwigs, and oRA2 MT windows |
| 17:08.48 | [FH]Birdemani | didnt need anything else |
| 17:08.50 | lacindas | its sweet, just dont update SCT with it (SCT directory structure on the svn is borked) |
| 17:08.50 | [OW]Karn | Xuerian: heh ... i mean to say bigwigs ... which is suppose to be on the wowace wiki afaik |
| 17:08.57 | maia | I don't need to see health bars at 100% for 30ppl in the raid that don't need a heal. |
| 17:09.05 | Xuerian | [OW]Karn: Looking for the download or the information? |
| 17:09.19 | yacoob | maia, as I haven't played my priest since I switched to ace mods, does squishy allows you to do something like 'always show MT on list'? |
| 17:09.23 | Xuerian | !info BigWigs |
| 17:09.32 | [OW]Karn | information ... i'm going to try and write this module myself ;) |
| 17:09.33 | Xuerian | ~whaleslap SVNBot |
| 17:09.40 | purl | ACTION beats SVNBot upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 17:09.40 | maia | yacoob: it'll always keep all units with aggro on the list. |
| 17:09.40 | lacindas | anyone with Dev access to the svn want to do me a huge favor? ;) |
| 17:09.40 | Xuerian | DAMNIT BOTS |
| 17:09.48 | yacoob | maia, ah, neat :) |
| 17:09.49 | Xuerian | Thank you purl <3 |
| 17:09.56 | Mikma | !notes BigWigs |
| 17:09.57 | SVNBot | BigWigs Notes: Boss Mods with Timer bars. || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/BigWigs |
| 17:09.58 | lacindas | lol |
| 17:10.02 | Xuerian | HAH |
| 17:10.08 | sbu | maia: hmm - where did you get that BC info? |
| 17:10.08 | Xuerian | hm |
| 17:10.08 | lacindas | bots <3 mikma |
| 17:10.12 | Xuerian | might not be a wiki page. |
| 17:10.13 | yacoob | maia, I guess I'd be jumping all over the place IF I ever raid with my priest again... :) |
| 17:10.22 | [OW]Karn | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/BigWigs <--- 404 |
| 17:10.24 | [FH]Birdemani | forums.elitistjerks.com check there sbu |
| 17:10.38 | Xuerian | wowace.com/wiki/BigWigs |
| 17:11.54 | [OW]Karn | hehe ty Xuerian |
| 17:12.40 | sbu | hmhm |
| 17:12.50 | maia | oh, another change we'll have to deal with: no more auto-hiding units that are out of range. now good luck healing in AV. |
| 17:12.56 | Health | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4760-1-hzrazuvious.html or bigwigs raz? |
| 17:13.01 | Health | for a priest |
| 17:17.18 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5426-1-bloodyscreen.html |
| 17:18.59 | [OW]Karn | lol |
| 17:19.16 | Funkeh` | [18:13] <maia> oh, another change we'll have to deal with: no more auto-hiding units that are out of range. now good luck healing in AV. why? |
| 17:19.34 | Machine_ | who heals in av? |
| 17:19.44 | Funkeh` | its the only thing i can do in av.. |
| 17:20.00 | Machine_ | transfer to by bg please? |
| 17:20.07 | maia | any non-static unit frames would be dead with the rumored changes. aka not only any kind of emergency monitor, but also any unit frame addon that only shows units in range. |
| 17:20.37 | Machine_ | a hearty fuck you to all the healers out there? |
| 17:20.38 | Funkeh` | im not sure i understand you, what changes |
| 17:20.56 | maia | Machine_: well, I play a priest. there's no need for me to use my insane damage spells that crit for 600 with a 2.5sec cast time. |
| 17:21.07 | Machine_ | hihi |
| 17:21.32 | maia | Funkeh`: scroll up. rumored changes to the API of burning crusade. |
| 17:21.36 | Funkeh` | is there some rumoured blizz changes? |
| 17:21.46 | Funkeh` | screenshot or it didnt happen |
| 17:21.59 | [OW]Karn | why would blizz change that part of the api anyway? are people abusing them at all? |
| 17:22.12 | Machine_ | it's a shame really, it's hard enough to entice people to play healers with pidgeonholeing(sp?), raidloot that doesn't help you farm your insane repair bills etc |
| 17:23.51 | CIA-17 | 03maia * r13188 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: OnClick() is now using exactly the code PerfectRaid is using. Clique should work, and hopefully all other addons too. Let me know. |
| 17:24.23 | maia | Karn: they want to get rid of the "intelligent buttons" that will auto-choose target and spell. |
| 17:24.42 | maia | to disable such functionality, they have to nerf nearly all combat-related addons. |
| 17:24.44 | Machine_ | i'm not sure what to do with my warrior either. with fewer members of each class in tbc raids i assume they're going to want you to specialize even more on your pve side. and i can't stand protection spec |
| 17:24.55 | Mikma | when did we get cia back |
| 17:25.14 | maia | Mikma: just /hug CIA before committing, it'll help. |
| 17:25.32 | Machine_ | autoselecting click casting addons make bad players slightly better and good players worse. i don't see the problem |
| 17:26.03 | *** join/#wowace gnorlish (n=jaydee@70-38-2-202.vnnyca.adelphia.net) |
| 17:26.15 | maia | Machine_: this change will break ALL unit frame addons. have fun playing a healer/decurser with the blizzard raid frames. |
| 17:26.17 | Mikma | maia: roger |
| 17:26.58 | yacoob | right |
| 17:27.05 | yacoob | wake me up when you confirm/deny on that :) |
| 17:27.20 | Funkeh` | can you relink this im not a scroller |
| 17:27.36 | [FH]Birdemani | maia: nurfed works on the beta, tiv has basically said as much |
| 17:27.49 | Machine_ | maia: what i ment was how is this a problem today? why isn't it ok to use decursive etc. |
| 17:27.51 | maia | nurfed is a static unit frame mod. |
| 17:28.10 | maia | Machine_: blizzard wants smart player, not smart addons. |
| 17:28.32 | Machine_ | it's beginning to sound like bards of everquest. pressing different buttons every 3 seconds for hours. it's not fucking fun |
| 17:28.38 | [FH]Birdemani | actually |
| 17:28.57 | [FH]Birdemani | the game is going to be heavy into pvp with TBC and I think they want a level playing field |
| 17:29.07 | maia | too bad I won't continue playing a healer/decurser if 50% of my screen is filled up with 40 unit frame addons, and I can't even select any unit outside of my subgroup with a keybinding (I don't use the mouse for anything) |
| 17:29.27 | Machine_ | it all boils down to fun factor. they could have made you lose experience when you die in wow, or make you loose loot when you die in pvp, but they didn't because it's not fun |
| 17:30.03 | Machine_ | it's not fun to manually target in the blizzard frames to decurse etc |
| 17:30.16 | [FH]Birdemani | it wont be 40 frames anymore |
| 17:30.28 | Machine_ | it doesn't matter, 25 or 40 |
| 17:31.18 | Machine_ | i was considering a paladin alt for tbc, but with all these, albeit, rumored changes it's not an option anymore |
| 17:31.37 | Machine_ | maybe a rogue, no heals, no dispelling, chuu-chuu |
| 17:31.59 | yacoob | Machine_, do the hust^Wambush! :) |
| 17:32.02 | maia | Birdemani: I was still planning to raid BWL/AQ/Naxx as I havent really seen these instances yet. They will remain 40man instances. |
| 17:32.16 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 17:33.29 | oxman | its a RUMOR |
| 17:33.53 | oxman | I need Clique casting, only that to heal :) |
| 17:34.03 | alkis | is AceComm channel GUILD supposed to work? |
| 17:34.25 | *** join/#wowace Delemoose (i=techjoe_@wls00013.rit.edu) |
| 17:34.30 | Machine_ | i'm still hoping it's just a rumor and that they won't be stupid enough to implement those changes. it'd make raiding hell for the remaining healers |
| 17:34.41 | Machine_ | healers/decursers |
| 17:34.48 | Xuerian | has custom profile/copying been disabled or did I do something weird... >_> |
| 17:34.49 | yacoob | breaking it down: |
| 17:34.58 | neale | if it's only a rumour i hope it's not true... or else i'm with maia, i quit |
| 17:35.10 | yacoob | click-to-heal can be gone for me |
| 17:35.21 | oxman | :p |
| 17:35.22 | yacoob | click-to-target - fsck me gently with a chainsaw |
| 17:35.25 | *** join/#wowace sergio (i=sp@unaffiliated/sergio) |
| 17:35.47 | neale | to those who say mass dispel is the answer - max of 5 people affected, 1130 mana, removes 1 beneficial effect as well as curse. no chance. |
| 17:36.06 | Machine_ | i'd quit on principle even if i don't play a healer at the moment |
| 17:36.13 | yacoob | ok, EoT. We'll see when its get here. What use whining now? |
| 17:36.27 | yacoob | Seriously? :) |
| 17:36.35 | alkis | ok before all you guys quit... did anyone use AceComm sending to GUILD succesfully? |
| 17:36.37 | Machine_ | it makes me feel good. i have a love-hate relationship with the expansion |
| 17:36.53 | maia | They need to add something like "Abolish Group [Disease|Magic|Curse|Poison]", 1000mana, 10sec buff. |
| 17:36.58 | yacoob | Machine_, spank some developer! |
| 17:37.05 | Machine_ | it sounds like pve will stay roughly the same but pvp will be completely turned upside down |
| 17:37.57 | Machine_ | and i don't know which horse to bet on, i like to pvp and i enjoy a challenge, but i don't want to be part of the whipping boy class of tbc whichever this will be |
| 17:39.41 | maia | the underlying problem is, the wow UI was never made for raids. keep in mind that ctra was the first addon to introduce raid frames, blizzard didnt have them, and didnt even support them (which is why all information about raid units such as debuffs,... was sent via the hidden ctra channel). |
| 17:39.53 | oxman | in fact its not a problem for clique casting |
| 17:39.57 | Machine_ | it's sad to see that no mmorpg has ever made the healing classes attractive to play. wow managed it from 1-59 and then caused major burnout when people could raid while feral/enhancement/shadow/retribution specced |
| 17:39.59 | oxman | you must only use passive targeting |
| 17:40.02 | oxman | and its ok :) |
| 17:40.13 | Machine_ | s/could/couldn't/ |
| 17:40.27 | *** join/#wowace clad (i=jnwhiteh@fairfax.dreamhost.com) |
| 17:40.30 | yacoob | oxman, what do you mean by passive? |
| 17:40.37 | yacoob | cast, then target? |
| 17:40.43 | maia | well, I chose a healer because I was tired of my mage, chain-casting frostbolt for hours. now I wish I had my mage back in BC ;) |
| 17:40.44 | oxman | you have no target, cast a spell, then click on unitframe |
| 17:40.46 | oxman | yep yacoob |
| 17:41.00 | oxman | so no real problem for me if the rumor is true :) |
| 17:41.08 | Machine_ | clad! |
| 17:41.10 | alkis | can you register with using RegisterComm to multiple distributions? |
| 17:41.10 | neale | maia: that's funny - i'm a frostmage currently, and levelling a priest for BC so I can go shadow |
| 17:41.11 | clad | hi |
| 17:41.23 | neale | oh no, the police are here |
| 17:41.25 | neale | stop talking about BC |
| 17:41.26 | Machine_ | clad: did you get my email about dev svn access? |
| 17:41.28 | maia | oxman: with 2-3FPS you won't be able to choose the correct spell as you don't know how much life the unit will have the moment you're targetting him (and the 500ms latency is past) |
| 17:41.30 | clad | i was a rogue who rolled priest.. then rolled druid.. finishing my hunter.. then rolling paladin.. then rolling shaman |
| 17:41.40 | yacoob | oxman, I'd be just very angry if they kill click-to-target, I literaly barf at the view of original uf |
| 17:41.49 | yacoob | rollin', rollin', rollin'! |
| 17:41.51 | sbu | hmm we'll see maia, seems like nothing is confirmed yet |
| 17:41.52 | oxman | keybind to select the spell, then click on target, its like click cast |
| 17:41.53 | clad | Machine_ Requests for the SVN need to be requested to the goolgegroups address, they then get forwarded to me.. once i'm done with the wedding this weekend I'll try to create some accounts. |
| 17:42.14 | sbu | maia: its only http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&pageNo=1 at the moment!? |
| 17:42.25 | Machine_ | clad: i sent it to your gmail address, is that the one you refer to? |
| 17:42.33 | clad | No, there is a googl egroups, address. |
| 17:42.44 | Machine_ | clad: oh and good luck on the wedding, are you the lucky one? |
| 17:42.46 | maia | oxman: difference is: you have to click twice. between the clicks you'll have to wait for a server ACK (which takes 500ms or more when having high latency) and a frame refresh (which takes 0.33sec at 3FPS). |
| 17:42.50 | clad | Machine_: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 17:42.54 | clad | No, my roommates are getting married. |
| 17:42.57 | maia | in other words, instant spells take at least 2 sec to cast. |
| 17:43.07 | clad | maia: Not if you hit the hotkey before the last spell is done casting. |
| 17:43.09 | oxman | its true maia :) |
| 17:43.11 | Saroz | Ello all |
| 17:43.19 | oxman | the cooldown is 1.5 for priest |
| 17:43.25 | oxman | so 1.5 or 2... ;) |
| 17:43.48 | JoshBorke | clad: o.O wedding? good luck :-/ |
| 17:43.49 | Machine_ | clad: yep that's the one, it'll be waiting for you then after the weddings done |
| 17:44.12 | maia | oxman: it will take 2sec until the spell is cast, so including the cooldown we're talking about 3.5sec for an instant spell. |
| 17:44.18 | oxman | :D |
| 17:44.24 | oxman | get a connexion !! |
| 17:44.25 | oxman | :) |
| 17:44.25 | clad | JoshBorke: hehe its my roommates, not me =) |
| 17:44.40 | clad | Machine_ So you sent it to the Ace admin email on that page? |
| 17:44.51 | maia | GMs said "I can cast 4 greater heals in the 10sec a spirit healer lives" - if I'm lucky I can cast 3. usually only 2. |
| 17:45.24 | Machine_ | clad: cladhaire AT+SPAMFREE gmail DOT +com |
| 17:45.34 | clad | ... |
| 17:45.37 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower|ZZzz (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 17:45.39 | maia | problem is, GMs are playing with 100FPS and 10ms latency. thats what they design the encounters for it seems. |
| 17:45.50 | clad | oh |
| 17:45.52 | clad | scroll down |
| 17:45.55 | maia | I'm doomed, as I have a high latency, low FPS and can't use a mouse either. |
| 17:45.57 | clad | that bastard Tekkub didn't eidt the page right brb |
| 17:47.36 | maia | haha, blizzard deleted the topic about the upcoming UI change in BC on their forums. |
| 17:47.53 | JoshBorke | oh geez, too much to read, can someone summarize what maia is talking about? |
| 17:48.09 | neale | all rumour from BC |
| 17:48.18 | Xuerian | Blizzard is nerfing addons rumor, sky is falling, we're all doomed |
| 17:48.45 | yacoob | JoshBorke, rumour has it, TBC will break two important API functions, and all developers would get "healing aggro" (hehe :) and then die. |
| 17:48.47 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r13189 10/branches/IceHUD_Hunter/ (13 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:48.47 | axxo | meh without my addons i'm quiting the game too |
| 17:48.58 | oxman | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=31015064&pageNo=5 |
| 17:49.00 | oxman | not deleted |
| 17:49.00 | oxman | :p |
| 17:49.11 | maia | clad, is there any way to tell which mirror I'm currently connecting to via svn.wowace.com? I'm getting an error on each update: svn: Target path does not exist |
| 17:49.20 | maia | svn: REPORT request failed on '/wowace/!svn/vcc/default' |
| 17:49.30 | axxo | An error was encountered while processing your request |
| 17:49.31 | axxo | [error.topicDeleted] |
| 17:49.38 | maia | yeah |
| 17:49.42 | oxman | my url ?? |
| 17:49.46 | oxman | no error |
| 17:49.46 | maia | yup |
| 17:49.49 | yacoob | oxman, aye |
| 17:49.50 | axxo | oxman: hit refresh |
| 17:49.55 | maia | I just clicked your url. |
| 17:50.01 | oxman | i clear my cache |
| 17:50.09 | *** join/#wowace malreth (n=triti@cpe-72-179-20-11.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 17:50.13 | neale | works for me? |
| 17:50.14 | oxman | still no error |
| 17:50.16 | oxman | five refresh |
| 17:50.18 | oxman | cache clear |
| 17:50.19 | malreth | PANIC!!! |
| 17:50.21 | oxman | and still have the url |
| 17:50.24 | maia | they are proxying the forums |
| 17:50.30 | yacoob | THEY? |
| 17:50.38 | maia | I guess you're connecting to the french proxy |
| 17:50.43 | clad | Machine_: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Getting_an_Account |
| 17:50.45 | maia | THEY - THE OTHERS. |
| 17:50.51 | oxman | i'm french ^^ |
| 17:51.03 | Saroz | [Ammo], ping |
| 17:51.10 | *** join/#wowace Plorkyeran (n=Knightki@155.33.136.174) |
| 17:51.13 | clad | maia: No, it means that that mirror hasn't been updated to that rev yet.. it should happen quite quickly |
| 17:51.18 | maia | oxman: I know - how could I have missed that ;) |
| 17:51.28 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no) |
| 17:51.31 | maia | clad: ah, I see. |
| 17:51.31 | JoshBorke | ah ha! found it! TargetUnit() is rumored to be gone... |
| 17:51.43 | oxman | :p |
| 17:51.46 | oxman | why JoshBorke ? |
| 17:51.51 | vhaarr | Who's this schelli guy? |
| 17:52.01 | JoshBorke | lol, just took me a while to scroll up far enough |
| 17:52.04 | alkis | vhaar: do you know if AceComm is supposed to work with GUILD distribution? or is that something to be added? |
| 17:52.04 | maia | too bad a svn update * -- ignore-externals doesn't show which folder its currently processing, all I'm getting spammed with is "At revision 12345"... |
| 17:52.04 | vhaarr | His commit messages leave things to be desired. |
| 17:52.12 | *** join/#wowace [Ez]Dustwhisper (n=ask@167.80-202-19.nextgentel.com) |
| 17:52.14 | vhaarr | alkis: I don't know. |
| 17:52.41 | maia | alkis: AceComm is bugged, and ckknight hasnt renewed his game card, so he can't fix it. :( |
| 17:52.52 | JoshBorke | how is AceComm bugged? |
| 17:52.56 | alkis | do you know if you can register to listen to 2 channels? (from what i see in the code this is something that should work) |
| 17:52.58 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | Where might i find some info/screens on Caterer? |
| 17:53.02 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | only ace2 watervendor mod i found =D |
| 17:53.06 | JoshBorke | because i'm about to start using it heavily :-( |
| 17:53.40 | maia | JoshBorke: an error in FloatingChatFrame when hovering over the menu to change colors for a chatframe. |
| 17:53.46 | *** join/#wowace Nightdew (n=nightdew@c-69-241-14-232.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 17:53.59 | DrDre | thats caused by Ace2 standalone |
| 17:54.02 | JoshBorke | but it'll still work functionality wise? and why can't someone else try to fix it? |
| 17:54.27 | maia | JoshBorke: because noone cares - or noone has a clue what to do. |
| 17:54.34 | beerke | hmm chronometer and paladins kinda fuck up |
| 17:54.37 | DrDre | its something bugged in AceComm and ckk has no clue whats causing it |
| 17:54.49 | alkis | maia: do you know in what sense this is bugged? |
| 17:54.52 | beerke | GBOL triggers 5 minute BOL cd on chronometer |
| 17:54.59 | maia | and if ckk doesnt know, I wont find the problem either. |
| 17:55.06 | Machine_ | clad: yeah, i've signed the page and sent the email now |
| 17:55.24 | yacoob | Huah! mem usage <30MB! And it *stays* there :) |
| 17:55.36 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower|ZZzz (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 17:55.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad] by ChanServ |
| 17:55.41 | maia | alkis: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1648.0 the last few posts refer to the AceComm bug |
| 17:55.44 | *** topic/#wowace by clad -> http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Server_Status#Latest_Update | Everyone who commits to the SVN, read and sign http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules | If chicken little tells you that the sky is falling., even if it wasn't would you still come crawling back again.. I bet you would my friend.. again and again and again and again and a... |
| 17:56.10 | maia | clad: huh? ;) |
| 17:56.14 | oxman | http://www.zachwong.com/wow/zionmage75.jpg |
| 17:56.15 | oxman | wow lol |
| 17:56.41 | clad | maia: THE SKY IS FALLING! =) |
| 17:56.55 | yacoob | oxman, I feel discordia! :D |
| 17:57.04 | maia | i can see it. |
| 17:57.04 | oxman | :p |
| 17:57.29 | yacoob | I suffer! Aaaargha! |
| 17:57.44 | yacoob | you did that to me! |
| 17:58.21 | Machine_ | i need another beer |
| 17:58.27 | neale | ze sky, she is falling |
| 17:58.35 | FISKER | we're all going to die |
| 17:58.48 | clad | i quit |
| 17:58.50 | clad | something. |
| 17:58.55 | clad | no really.. i've gotta quit =) |
| 17:58.59 | yacoob | *blink* |
| 17:58.59 | FISKER | :( |
| 17:59.05 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Karen@CPE00045a2bfcbc-CM000f212f84be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 17:59.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 17:59.09 | yacoob | /topic <Machine_> I need another bear. |
| 17:59.10 | neale | you have to quit ... IRC |
| 17:59.12 | clad | haha i meant irc nub |
| 17:59.27 | neale | i win at teh internetz |
| 17:59.32 | yacoob | speaking of which, where is the irc epic quest? |
| 17:59.38 | yacoob | at #5,0? :) |
| 17:59.44 | neale | #wowi-lounge, yacoob |
| 17:59.45 | *** join/#wowace NA|Liquidor (i=_Liquido@port227.ds1-sg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 18:00.27 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | how the f does Caterer work? |
| 18:00.47 | neale | ~pink pik|silvermoon |
| 18:00.50 | neale | pink? |
| 18:00.51 | neale | wow. |
| 18:00.57 | neale | ~ping pik|silvermoon |
| 18:00.59 | purl | pong pik|silvermoon |
| 18:00.59 | yacoob | kinky |
| 18:01.22 | neale | dust, have someone open trade with you and see what happens |
| 18:01.29 | neale | i haven't used it since he added the commandline |
| 18:01.39 | Machine_ | i'm dead and i'm pissed |
| 18:01.55 | pastamancer | maia: I added http://www.wowace.com/wiki/RosterLib-2.0_API_Documentation to the wiki, I hope you don't mind |
| 18:02.35 | maia | yay! |
| 18:02.39 | maia | thanks a lot |
| 18:03.00 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | i was hoping for a nice GUI to set up stacks etc per class |
| 18:03.04 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | but no apparently not >_< |
| 18:03.09 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | tired of addons being cmdline |
| 18:03.11 | pastamancer | maybe someday I'll get aguf using RosterLib, it seems handy |
| 18:03.14 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | that works for nix consoles, not friggin wow |
| 18:03.26 | *** join/#wowace Prophy (n=prophy@cpe-66-65-84-109.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 18:03.42 | Prophy | did Chronosmeter replace Cooldown Timers? |
| 18:03.51 | JoshBorke | [Ez]Dustwhisper: i don't like making GUI's because it takes way too much time away from creating the substance of the mod |
| 18:03.59 | yacoob | hm |
| 18:04.03 | [FH]Birdemani | any good mods for fear ward out there? |
| 18:04.14 | yacoob | didn't praid had some kind of emulation, to let me set up my bars? |
| 18:04.16 | beerke | pff chronometer foks up even with GBOS and shows it as normal BOS |
| 18:04.20 | malreth | Fear Ward is going away |
| 18:04.30 | JoshBorke | ... |
| 18:04.30 | [FH]Birdemani | ? |
| 18:04.32 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 18:04.37 | Machine_ | all healers are going away |
| 18:04.37 | malreth | since the horde don't have it, it's unbalanced |
| 18:04.41 | Machine_ | bring bandages |
| 18:04.54 | [FH]Birdemani | oo, just like DnD online |
| 18:04.57 | malreth | so it's being replaced with a paper sack to go over your tank's head |
| 18:05.07 | malreth | if they can't see the danger, they can't be afraid |
| 18:05.12 | Xuerian | rofl |
| 18:05.16 | malreth | also, you should believe everything I say |
| 18:05.24 | [FH]Birdemani | anyone have a screenshot of chronometer |
| 18:05.28 | Machine_ | and give me all your money |
| 18:06.05 | malreth | purl, me |
| 18:06.12 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
| 18:06.13 | maia | yacoob: PR had that emulation, but as PR is now using RosterLib Clad has to rewrite this emulation |
| 18:06.19 | malreth | damn straight |
| 18:06.23 | yacoob | wait up, it's hard to follow... listen to malreth... give money to Machine_... |
| 18:06.32 | yacoob | maia, ah, so my only option is to actually enter a raid? |
| 18:06.39 | neale | maia, btw, that topic you posted in is now deleted (re: bc nerf) |
| 18:07.01 | maia | neale: I didnt post it. I just posted a comment on page4. |
| 18:07.06 | neale | yeah i know |
| 18:07.13 | *** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-24-127-197-121.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 18:07.22 | maia | ah, I missed the "in", sorry. |
| 18:07.30 | neale | :) np at all, my friend |
| 18:08.48 | kergoth | Prophy: chronometer is not a cooldown display. no. |
| 18:11.43 | mjc | duratek doesn't remember that its icon is supposed to be hidden. |
| 18:13.16 | oxman | i've post a message about the rumor on french forum |
| 18:13.22 | oxman | how many time before it will be delete ? |
| 18:14.02 | neale | what's the over-under? |
| 18:14.05 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | any Ace2 Itemrack type addon now? |
| 18:14.10 | neale | no dustwhisper |
| 18:14.38 | Xuerian | [Ez]Dustwhisper: Not yet, haste is working on a set manager, but ItemRack is a very well-coded addon :) |
| 18:15.11 | lacindas | agreed X, itemrack (and gello's work in general) is very well done |
| 18:15.50 | vhaarr | [Ez]Dustwhisper: I'm working on one. |
| 18:15.53 | Funkeh` | maia, is tehre any way to make aquishy detect when you try to heal someone oor and then hide it instead of it staying on my list |
| 18:16.02 | Xuerian | And vhaarr is working on one apparently. |
| 18:16.03 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 18:16.07 | Funkeh` | squishy* |
| 18:16.17 | vhaarr | Xuerian: My name is better than haste's name anyway, whatever it is. |
| 18:16.29 | mjc | wtf!!!! |
| 18:16.30 | neale | otravi v rabbit? |
| 18:16.31 | Xuerian | Who doesn't love a rabbit? |
| 18:16.33 | neale | battle to the death |
| 18:16.35 | mjc | why wasn't I notified if this!?!?! |
| 18:16.36 | vhaarr | No, the addon name. |
| 18:16.38 | mjc | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5409-1-sprocket-itemrack.html |
| 18:16.43 | haste | vhaarr: if your working on one then I'll drop mine |
| 18:16.51 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.55 | vhaarr | haste: how much have you done? |
| 18:17.07 | Xuerian | Hah, very nice mjc |
| 18:17.14 | haste | saving and some pieces of restoring |
| 18:17.16 | beerke | tbh cooldowntimers and chronometer should be merged :) |
| 18:17.18 | vhaarr | haste: I have everything except autosets and such, like resistance sets and stuff. |
| 18:17.25 | mjc | beerke: I agree |
| 18:17.33 | haste | vhaarr: I'm not doing more then saving and restoring :p |
| 18:17.37 | vhaarr | ah |
| 18:17.40 | vhaarr | well don't drop it |
| 18:17.45 | vhaarr | There's room for 2 :) |
| 18:17.58 | neale | autosets? like automatically creating best FR set etc? |
| 18:18.02 | haste | noes, I'll just get "OMG I'll use XXX 'cause it has YYY features" then |
| 18:18.41 | sergio | Why would anyone need an addon to create resist sets for you |
| 18:18.48 | vhaarr | Why do you care? |
| 18:18.51 | neale | itemrack does it. |
| 18:18.52 | vhaarr | I'm doing the work anyway. |
| 18:18.55 | Xuerian | sergio: It doesn't create the sets, it just equips it |
| 18:19.00 | Xuerian | (iirc) |
| 18:19.03 | neale | just curious, sorry for asking |
| 18:19.05 | neale | :( |
| 18:19.06 | sergio | It's retarded as hell |
| 18:19.17 | sergio | especially if you're a warrior |
| 18:19.21 | neale | don't use it then |
| 18:19.25 | sergio | I'm not |
| 18:19.26 | Mikma | 24man ony agaun |
| 18:19.32 | sergio | I can talk about can't I? |
| 18:20.12 | Mikma | no! |
| 18:20.16 | Mikma | you can't! |
| 18:20.25 | neale | saying something is "retarded as hell" is not exactly conversational |
| 18:20.48 | sergio | It may be spiffy for most classes I assume but for a warrior it always makes the most simple Max resist sets |
| 18:20.56 | mjc | hum |
| 18:20.56 | sergio | that any warrior with common sense wouldn't use |
| 18:21.08 | sergio | it's just a stupid time to code stuff like that |
| 18:21.14 | sergio | waste of time |
| 18:21.18 | neale | then don't use them, wtf is the problem - it's good for nearly every other class |
| 18:21.28 | neale | i give up |
| 18:21.47 | sergio | Is it so hard to make a set with 4 pieces instead of bloating up an equip addon with that crap |
| 18:21.51 | Mikma | just because you play a class you don't see to use the addon it doesn't mean it's retarded and useless |
| 18:21.59 | oxman | :) |
| 18:22.09 | JoshBorke | i found the bug in AceComm |
| 18:22.23 | yacoob | Hm, why is praid showing 'mana' for warriors? :D |
| 18:22.24 | sergio | I'm saying that it bloats up an addon that I want to do a specific set of things not have all these fancy features I never use |
| 18:22.29 | yacoob | (oom marker, that is) |
| 18:22.29 | malreth | it's in the FCF hook, JoshBorke |
| 18:22.35 | oxman | maiaAFK you must use RAID or BATTLEGROUND according to the situation to check version |
| 18:22.39 | JoshBorke | malreth: i know |
| 18:22.44 | JoshBorke | hm, wait |
| 18:22.47 | vhaarr | sergio: If the addon author is an idiot, yes it does. |
| 18:22.52 | Mikma | clad|work: people are still seeing warriors OOM ;) |
| 18:23.05 | malreth | it's the code that tries to hide channel names from the menu |
| 18:23.08 | Mikma | maybe you need to do like clad said. buff arcane brilliance on them |
| 18:23.19 | neale | lol |
| 18:23.54 | malreth | i figured it out a week ago but it was easier to just replace AceComm addons than to fix it... but i'm lazzzy like that |
| 18:24.02 | malreth | the extra 2 z's are for extra lazy |
| 18:24.36 | Saroz | How do you add an empty GameTooltip line? |
| 18:24.36 | CIA-17 | 03delsphynx * r13190 10ag_UnitFrames/layouts/oUF.lua: ag_UnitFrames: minor size tweaks to the oUF layout, and here's to hoping tabs are no longer > me |
| 18:25.13 | malreth | JoshBorke: but you're not lazy so you can actually make a difference in the world |
| 18:26.05 | JoshBorke | malreth: what's the fix? |
| 18:26.50 | malreth | huh? |
| 18:27.05 | JoshBorke | malreth: to the AceComm bug. or did you just figure out where it was coming from and stopped there? |
| 18:27.17 | malreth | What's Ace? |
| 18:27.24 | Delsphynx | I think he was saying he knows where the bug is, but just worked around it by replacing acecomm altogether |
| 18:27.48 | malreth | oh... JoshBorke is gonna be pissed at me... :( |
| 18:27.51 | Saroz | How do you add an empty GameTooltip line? |
| 18:28.00 | Saroz | :| |
| 18:28.12 | *** join/#wowace Delemos (i=techjoe_@wls00013.rit.edu) |
| 18:28.19 | Plorkyeran | Add a line with ''? |
| 18:28.25 | Saroz | doesn't seem to work |
| 18:29.22 | pastamancer | Delsphynx: I see tabs |
| 18:29.26 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 18:29.30 | Delsphynx | yeah, me too :) |
| 18:29.33 | Delsphynx | it's encouraging |
| 18:29.40 | pastamancer | still using scite? |
| 18:29.46 | Delsphynx | in SciTE, there is an option right on the menu |
| 18:29.47 | mjc | ew scite |
| 18:29.48 | Delsphynx | for indentation |
| 18:29.51 | mjc | I prefer emacs :) |
| 18:29.53 | pastamancer | hah |
| 18:29.57 | Delsphynx | just select "use tabs" |
| 18:30.00 | Delsphynx | rather than using spaces |
| 18:30.01 | Delsphynx | me = noob |
| 18:30.17 | mjc | smart indent 2 = win |
| 18:30.19 | JoshBorke | purl hug malreth |
| 18:30.20 | purl | ACTION hugs malreth |
| 18:34.01 | JoshBorke | AH HA! |
| 18:34.05 | JoshBorke | i really did figure it out now! |
| 18:34.20 | Xuerian | o_O |
| 18:34.49 | *** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@sd511586e.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 18:34.54 | JoshBorke | well, maybe not. the problem is the paramenters passed to LoadChannels get rearranged |
| 18:35.15 | *** join/#wowace dreyruugr (n=chatzill@66.77.144.6) |
| 18:35.21 | Xuerian | Do a quick pastey of both relevant parts? :P |
| 18:36.16 | JoshBorke | bah, that's easier said than done |
| 18:36.25 | JoshBorke | need a little more research |
| 18:37.01 | CIA-17 | 03hshh * r13191 10BigWigs/ (9 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: modify zhCN locales |
| 18:38.04 | Xuerian | Hmm |
| 18:38.19 | Xuerian | Perhaps it is not advisable to recursively nest addon option menus. |
| 18:38.54 | Machine_ | http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=8842 |
| 18:39.04 | Xuerian | For AceConsole doesn't take lightly to thismenu begat that menu begat this menu begat that menu ad infintum XD |
| 18:39.23 | Machine_ | "Hi there, this notification is meant to inform you of some significant changes regarding the way we're handling UI addons." |
| 18:39.37 | Plorkyeran | Coroutines would be nice |
| 18:39.48 | Plorkyeran | I guess killing CastSpell removes the problems with them |
| 18:40.05 | Xuerian | Machine_: Remember that one time warriors were going to be able to dual-wield two handed weapons with only 25% penalty? IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN |
| 18:40.33 | JoshBorke | anyone in game want to tell me what GetChannelList returns? specifically the type on the first field (and the value) |
| 18:41.12 | Machine_ | Xuerian: yeah im probably overreacting, it's just a game-breaking change in my eyes |
| 18:41.13 | *** join/#wowace Espa (n=espa@wkstn109-234.harbin.georgetown.edu) |
| 18:41.21 | Machine_ | that's why i get so upset |
| 18:41.27 | Xuerian | I know, I agree Machine_ |
| 18:41.33 | Xuerian | But I also agree with apate in that thread |
| 18:41.33 | dreyruugr | game breaking how? |
| 18:41.40 | Xuerian | "If Cladhaire, Iriel, Gello/Maldavia, Glaumene, et al., start screaming, then it will be time to worry." |
| 18:42.17 | Saroz | Seriously, empty tooltip line |
| 18:42.17 | Saroz | how |
| 18:42.24 | Machine_ | yeah, he's right. i haven't read the thread yet |
| 18:43.05 | Plorkyeran | AddLine(' ')? |
| 18:43.12 | Machine_ | and blizzard has gotten everything right when it comes to avoiding non-fun game mechanics so far, such as experience loss etc |
| 18:43.16 | Plorkyeran | Or the the font color of the line to the BG color and add text? |
| 18:43.25 | Plorkyeran | s/the the/set the/ |
| 18:43.45 | Plorkyeran | exp loss was less unfun than durability loss :P |
| 18:43.50 | Saroz | Thx Plorkyeran :p |
| 18:43.54 | Machine_ | it seems unlikely that they'd disable that and continue with the same kind of encounters as now |
| 18:44.29 | Machine_ | Plorkyeran: not if you played a ressing class |
| 18:44.48 | Machine_ | Plorkyeran: "hi can u res plz in postorms i pay thnx" |
| 18:45.00 | dreyruugr | haha |
| 18:45.24 | *** join/#wowace Asni (n=insa@179.80-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:45.25 | dreyruugr | People freaked in the original F&F alpha about the lack of XP loss |
| 18:45.31 | Plorkyeran | WoW beta style xp-loss, not eq style xp-loss :P |
| 18:45.45 | Plorkyeran | free spirit rezzes were fun |
| 18:45.49 | Machine_ | i dont remember exp loss in beta? |
| 18:45.53 | dreyruugr | They shipped with it anyway... 7 million copies later I'd say I think they made the right choice |
| 18:46.07 | Plorkyeran | spirit rezzing gave you with a 10% xp loss, but it couldn't make you lose levels |
| 18:46.18 | Plorkyeran | So level capped people were running around with -100k xp |
| 18:46.25 | Industrial | heh |
| 18:46.25 | Machine_ | aah yes |
| 18:46.41 | Industrial | loss when dieing sucks ass |
| 18:46.43 | Plorkyeran | Which was extra funny when the level caps went up :P |
| 18:47.10 | Machine_ | i hope they do something about consumables in raiding too. damnit let raiders raid and not pick flowers in level 50 zones |
| 18:47.43 | Machine_ | they could use some penalty for dying in pvp tho |
| 18:47.54 | Industrial | noooo |
| 18:48.07 | Industrial | battlegrounds are like online FPS games |
| 18:48.10 | Industrial | i love it |
| 18:48.14 | Plorkyeran | There should be at least a minor death penalty for pvp |
| 18:48.20 | yacoob | there's no source of this citation. |
| 18:48.31 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | meh |
| 18:48.34 | Plorkyeran | Although not a pve death penalty like money or xp |
| 18:48.35 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | maybe i should install itemrack again |
| 18:48.39 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | only boss i use diff gear on |
| 18:48.40 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | is FR gear for vael |
| 18:48.49 | Xuerian | [Ez]Dustwhisper: Install itemrack and the Itemrack plugin for sprocket :D |
| 18:49.00 | yacoob | what's wrong with outfitter? |
| 18:49.01 | Industrial | I think the penalty should be having died one more time on the scoreboard |
| 18:49.07 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | is outfitter ace2? |
| 18:49.13 | Industrial | and that number gets counted in in your honour points |
| 18:49.24 | yacoob | [Ez]Dustwhisper, not being ace2 is disqualiffying? :) |
| 18:49.36 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | kinda |
| 18:49.45 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | I decided by some oblivious reason a couple weeks back |
| 18:49.49 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | that I would only have Ace2 addons |
| 18:49.53 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | well except swstats >_< |
| 18:49.56 | Industrial | nu-uh, the real question is: Does it fir my needs, and is it efficient? |
| 18:50.00 | Industrial | fit, even |
| 18:50.08 | lacindas | X: theres an ItemRack plugin for sprocket? |
| 18:50.17 | Industrial | if it isnt remake it (and use ace2) |
| 18:50.25 | mjc | yes |
| 18:50.35 | mjc | I linked it earlier |
| 18:51.01 | yacoob | Industrial, I'm using outfitter for long time, and it fits my needs. The only thing that would make me switch is that itemrack would do something better/quicker or smaller mem footprint |
| 18:51.11 | Xuerian | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5409-1-sprocket-itemrack.html |
| 18:51.13 | Industrial | guys guys, dunno where you live but here - winter is coming! yay! |
| 18:51.28 | Industrial | yacoob: ever tried AceWardrobe? Im not into thqat kinda addon but it might be something |
| 18:51.46 | lacindas | mjc: ty, scrolled up and found it |
| 18:51.49 | yacoob | Industrial, frankly speaking - no :) |
| 18:51.58 | Industrial | :> |
| 18:52.10 | Machine_ | Industrial: you're sick |
| 18:52.14 | Industrial | sick why |
| 18:52.27 | Machine_ | winter :( |
| 18:52.37 | Industrial | winter > * |
| 18:52.45 | JoshBorke | winter is wonderful! it's not hot |
| 18:52.45 | JoshBorke | ! |
| 18:52.50 | Industrial | I love it, rain wind cold snow ice! |
| 18:53.11 | Industrial | its the best :P |
| 18:53.16 | Machine_ | i have to move south, i can't stand this climate |
| 18:53.40 | Industrial | I hate it when I lift an arm and start sweating |
| 18:53.44 | *** join/#wowace Shabador (n=shabador@ti400720a080-5027.bb.online.no) |
| 18:53.48 | mjc | lacindas: anytime |
| 18:53.54 | mjc | lacindas: I haven't tried it yet tho |
| 18:54.22 | Industrial | well except for training ofcource :P |
| 18:54.51 | CIA-17 | 03saroz * r13192 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: |
| 18:54.51 | CIA-17 | sRaidFrames: |
| 18:54.51 | CIA-17 | - Added cooldowns to tooltips, as received by oRA2 |
| 18:54.51 | CIA-17 | - Ground work for Buff Durations, dunno if I wanna activate it. |
| 18:54.51 | CIA-17 | - A few syntax cleanups |
| 18:55.29 | lacindas | yeah, noticed its not by the sprocket author hehe |
| 18:55.37 | *** join/#wowace leech2k (n=leech@deathgrab.com) |
| 18:56.04 | *** join/#wowace clad (i=jnwhiteh@fairfax.dreamhost.com) |
| 18:56.13 | mjc | hey cladbutt |
| 18:56.42 | yacoob | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=49755631&sid=1 made me wonder about life, universe and everything |
| 18:57.18 | mjc | http://325i.org/wow/tanaris.png |
| 18:57.19 | mjc | :) |
| 18:57.22 | clad | *** AHEM *** In case you were in any way considering posting NDA violating material on the WoWAce forums, consider again. We reserve the right to take action with Blizzard on the matter. Just don't do it. |
| 18:57.28 | mjc | whoop |
| 18:57.30 | mjc | wrong link |
| 18:57.40 | mjc | http://325i.org/wow/images/tanaris.png |
| 18:58.40 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2512.new#new |
| 18:58.57 | Industrial | I cant take it anymore >_< |
| 18:59.18 | lacindas | +1 Id lolz |
| 18:59.40 | Industrial | I loved that when there were 10 people in here and someone had an idea you could say 'yeah you do it' and the person would make the addon |
| 19:00.02 | Industrial | but now it feels like an addon shop where you request something at the counter and get the bag handed to you when you walk out |
| 19:00.28 | yacoob | Industrial, yeah, you go and do it. |
| 19:00.31 | yacoob | *g* |
| 19:00.38 | Industrial | yacoob: die in a fire. |
| 19:00.40 | Industrial | twice. |
| 19:00.43 | yacoob | *dies in a fire* |
| 19:00.46 | yacoob | *dies in a fire again* |
| 19:00.52 | yacoob | Your wish is my comand :) |
| 19:00.54 | Industrial | =P |
| 19:00.59 | yacoob | Industrial, I still love you :D |
| 19:01.00 | mjc | :D |
| 19:01.05 | Industrial | ;D |
| 19:01.31 | Machine_ | i wish someone would make an addon that makes you die a fiery death |
| 19:01.35 | yacoob | and hey! I contributed! Five lines of high quality, patent pending, ingenious designed code for idChat stickychannels! :D |
| 19:01.40 | clad | <3 Industrial |
| 19:01.49 | mjc | yacoob: s/idChat/Prat/ |
| 19:01.51 | Industrial | clad: :- |
| 19:01.53 | Industrial | :-) |
| 19:01.55 | Thiana | mjc: Cannot locate object at: http://325i.org/wow/tanaris.png |
| 19:02.18 | clad | ok.. i'm off. |
| 19:02.20 | yacoob | mjc, what happened? |
| 19:02.22 | Industrial | cya clad |
| 19:02.23 | Xuerian | second link, Thiana |
| 19:02.25 | yacoob | someone set up Industrial a bomb? |
| 19:02.27 | Xuerian | Cya clad |
| 19:02.32 | clad | don't you bitches think of willfully violating the NDA.. It doesn't make cladhaire happy. |
| 19:02.47 | clad | I actually enjoy the fact that blizzard doesn't hate our community, unlike _some_ people apparently =) |
| 19:02.49 | Machine_ | oh my "me myself and irene" on tv tonight |
| 19:02.50 | yacoob | "And you wouldn't like me - when I'm angry" |
| 19:02.52 | mjc | Thiana: wrong link. see the second one :) |
| 19:03.00 | mjc | yacoob: ask id |
| 19:03.17 | Machine_ | bitches eh? well i got the boobs |
| 19:03.36 | yacoob | Industrial, mind writting me an add... err... I mean... mind casting fiery de... uhh... what happened to idChat? |
| 19:03.43 | Thiana | What raid frames are these: http://325i.org/wow/raiding.jpg |
| 19:04.01 | Industrial | yacoob: curney and krtek have continued it |
| 19:04.06 | mjc | Thiana: it's wow/images/raiding.jpg now |
| 19:04.08 | mjc | Thiana: agUF |
| 19:04.10 | mjc | http://325i.org/wow/images/bwl3.png |
| 19:04.20 | oxman | aguf |
| 19:04.21 | oxman | :) |
| 19:04.22 | yacoob | Thiana, agUF it seems. |
| 19:04.34 | Xuerian | png makes dialup cry |
| 19:04.37 | mjc | agUF + clearfont + oRA2 = win |
| 19:04.39 | yacoob | Industrial, wasn't idChat2 registered trademark? :) |
| 19:04.45 | mjc | Xuerian: dialup is for nub |
| 19:04.49 | Machine_ | -dialup- you're on 56k dialup? |
| 19:04.53 | Thiana | What is agUFs memory footprint? Everything is in one monolithic addon for agUF I believe? |
| 19:04.56 | Industrial | yacoob: I felt my work on it was done but requests etc kept flooding in. It wasn't the way I had planned idChat2 and not the way I liked it to go, so I quit. |
| 19:05.06 | Xuerian | Yes I am, Machine_ |
| 19:05.07 | mjc | Thiana: agUF uses aceOO |
| 19:05.08 | Xuerian | And I raid |
| 19:05.10 | Industrial | yacoob: I gave all my code to the public domain - afaik thats possible with wow |
| 19:05.12 | Xuerian | I RAID AMNIT |
| 19:05.18 | yacoob | Industrial, aha. So as long as I'm fine with it, I can stay at this version :) |
| 19:05.21 | Delsphynx | Thiana: memory footprint isn't bad, if you don't have raid frames shown for example, no memory is eaten |
| 19:05.21 | Xuerian | s/AM/DAM/ |
| 19:05.31 | Industrial | yacoob: and specifically asked not to continue with the idChat2 name |
| 19:05.33 | *** join/#wowace Beladona (n=Beladona@24.129.136.26) |
| 19:05.38 | mjc | Thiana: 1300K or so |
| 19:05.39 | Machine_ | i actually saw someone buy an 56k internal modem the other day and remember thinking what the hell he was going to connect to |
| 19:05.45 | yacoob | ...or die fiery death. Yes, I get the picture. |
| 19:05.54 | Xuerian | haha. diaf. |
| 19:05.55 | Prophy | did Chronosmeter replace Cooldown Timers? |
| 19:05.56 | Industrial | yacoob: Im using 2kb of code right now that does most things idChat2 does/did |
| 19:06.10 | yacoob | Machine_, the Internet? Naah. |
| 19:06.13 | Industrial | yacoob: and its not configurable ingame! yay! |
| 19:06.20 | mjc | Prophy: Chronometer is not a cooldown timer |
| 19:06.25 | yacoob | Industrial, make it obfuscated, for more justice! :D |
| 19:06.32 | Industrial | lol |
| 19:06.32 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Karen@CPE00045a2bfcbc-CM000f212f84be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 19:06.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 19:06.36 | neale | Chronometer is an acetimer replacement, not cooldowntimer. |
| 19:06.36 | Delsphynx | Chronometer = AceTimers, which shows the cooldown of your abilities on other people |
| 19:06.38 | Prophy | mjc: thx |
| 19:06.44 | neale | what del said |
| 19:06.56 | yacoob | cooldown of your abilities on other pe... huh? |
| 19:07.11 | yacoob | cooldown of their abilities, or your debuffs on other, or both? :) |
| 19:07.15 | mjc | yacoob: DoTs and such |
| 19:07.21 | Prophy | is there a mod that tells you how much memory each mod is taking? |
| 19:07.29 | Delsphynx | debuffs |
| 19:07.30 | yacoob | Prophy, teksupport and/or warmup |
| 19:07.34 | Delsphynx | for example, gouging a player |
| 19:07.34 | mjc | Prophy: WarmUp and tekSupport |
| 19:07.41 | Delsphynx | shows a timer of how long gouge lasts on that player |
| 19:07.42 | yacoob | and warmup shows only initial size |
| 19:07.43 | Prophy | thank you |
| 19:07.51 | yacoob | which may give you a heart attack :) |
| 19:08.15 | yacoob | Thankfully, Hostel started to show debuffs :) |
| 19:08.23 | mjc | hostel is ick |
| 19:08.32 | yacoob | how much ick there is? |
| 19:08.42 | Delsphynx | hostel is being redone he said, with some massive code reductions since he doesn't have to worry about durations (chrono can do that) |
| 19:09.00 | FISKER | is there any addon which can fetch dkp from an unmodified EQDKP site and also be aware of multiple dkp systems? |
| 19:09.02 | Delsphynx | the problem is, people wanted acetimers |
| 19:09.11 | mjc | FISKER: not that I know of |
| 19:09.16 | Delsphynx | and Sole shoe-horned it in to hostel |
| 19:09.22 | mjc | FISKER: I've considered patching FryListDKP |
| 19:09.26 | yacoob | Delsphynx, well, I started to worry when NECB author said 'not doing it further' |
| 19:09.34 | *** join/#wowace clad (i=jnwhiteh@fairfax.dreamhost.com) |
| 19:09.42 | mjc | wb clad |
| 19:09.48 | Industrial | lol |
| 19:09.49 | Delsphynx | I think hostel/antagonist + chrono will provide everything we have been looking for |
| 19:09.58 | Delsphynx | just have to let Sole does his thing (hopefully :) |
| 19:10.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad] by ChanServ |
| 19:10.39 | yacoob | (hm, where's Alpha forum to see threads being deleted? :) |
| 19:11.27 | yacoob | Delsphynx, and what is antagonist, as I don't seem to see it anywhere? |
| 19:11.50 | Delsphynx | antagonist is what hostel is going to be |
| 19:11.50 | Delsphynx | he hasn't put it up anywhere yet, afaik |
| 19:11.50 | yacoob | Aha. |
| 19:12.02 | Delsphynx | and let's face it, Antagonist as a name >> HostelBar :D |
| 19:12.05 | yacoob | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.10 | yacoob | two anchors |
| 19:12.26 | Delsphynx | that is true, but very minor (imo) |
| 19:12.46 | yacoob | Delsphynx, more clutter, imo. |
| 19:13.00 | yacoob | but, we'll see, we'll see. |
| 19:13.11 | yacoob | so far, hostel does its trick. |
| 19:13.14 | Delsphynx | it won't be any more cluttered I would think than having hostel do it all - all the frames in hostel had anchors |
| 19:13.31 | yacoob | Delsphynx, but you can make it show all bars with one anchor, and that's what I'm using. |
| 19:13.34 | Delsphynx | yeah, i have no problems with hostel really other than it doesn't pick up everything |
| 19:13.37 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | can someone tell me how to get Caterer to stop fucking me over by trying to Trade conjured cinnamon roll (which i dont even have) =D? |
| 19:13.46 | Delsphynx | ah, yeah I can see that yac |
| 19:13.57 | yacoob | I also put energy ticker underneath, so I can see what will be first, end of stun or my backstab :) |
| 19:14.25 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | hostel is a bit like lotto for me, never know when it'll pickup casts or not |
| 19:14.47 | Delsphynx | and without the jubilation at winning lots of money! |
| 19:15.58 | Thiana | Delsphynx: Did he figure out why Hostel misses so many spell events? self cast or otherwise. |
| 19:17.53 | CIA-17 | 03thiana * r13193 10/tags/Sheppard/ (. Sheppard-1.0/): Sheppard: Tagging Sheppard 1.0 (Ace1 version) |
| 19:19.58 | yacoob | Let's give chronometer a try then |
| 19:22.52 | CIA-17 | 03thiana * r13194 10Sheppard/ (Core.lua Sheppard.toc libs/): Sheppard: v1.1 (from branches/Sheppard/Thiana) |
| 19:22.52 | Industrial | Iceroth: ping |
| 19:23.33 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r13195 10XLootMonitor/ (. XLootMonitor.lua XLootMonitorOptions.lua): XLootMonitor: Fixed anchor visibility on reload (again), added backlink to XLoot's options, added *.bak to tsvn ignores |
| 19:23.53 | CIA-17 | 03thiana 07Thiana * r13196 10Sheppard/: Sheppard: Deleting branch since it's now the mainline |
| 19:26.40 | mjc | Xuerian: XLootMonitor.lua:3: attempt to call method 'NewModule' (a nil value) |
| 19:26.53 | Xuerian | crap. >_> |
| 19:27.01 | mjc | before that revision |
| 19:27.15 | Xuerian | Eh? |
| 19:27.30 | mjc | Xuerian: I don't have r13194 yet |
| 19:27.32 | mjc | er |
| 19:27.35 | mjc | r13195 |
| 19:27.46 | Xuerian | Make sure you update both XLoot and XLM if you hadn't updated xloot |
| 19:27.58 | mjc | svk sync //wowace |
| 19:28.02 | mjc | :) |
| 19:28.07 | Xuerian | Whatever gets it done :P |
| 19:28.20 | yacoob | heh |
| 19:28.37 | yacoob | WinAceUpdater only updated first mod in list (!!Warmup) and then happily says 'update complete' |
| 19:28.44 | Machine_ | speaking of the rumored changes (yes im still pissed) this quote came up |
| 19:28.49 | Machine_ | "Note there is one of these clickfests in EVERY 40-man dungeon so far. Removing decursive is like removing target icons and /assist, then saying they were overpowered, dumbed down encounters, and people should be smart enough to figure out their targets. Blizzard has added a ton of stuff to simplify the tedium of raids for dps classes, but healers/dispellers are getting the shaft." |
| 19:29.28 | Machine_ | he's exaggerating of course, but hes right that not much has been done to make healers life easier |
| 19:29.29 | yacoob | oh, and it also ticks the "default all installed addons" with each update. Not for me then. |
| 19:29.54 | Machine_ | :( |
| 19:30.34 | Xuerian | I agree, but comeon, it's a rumor right now. Once it's verifiable I'm going to go apeshit myself. If it's true, at that point I'm pretty sure a good number of healers will too, including you :P |
| 19:30.42 | *** join/#wowace Insa (n=insa@179.80-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 19:30.54 | Xuerian | till then, it's nothing more than rumors, and isn't worth the frustration :) |
| 19:31.10 | Plorkyeran | Does string.sub allocate memory? |
| 19:31.37 | mjc | haha |
| 19:31.47 | Xuerian | mjc: Not sure why it would do that, but if it still does that when I get back, tell me, for now I have to afk =P |
| 19:31.52 | mjc | k |
| 19:32.08 | malreth | Plorkyeran: all strings are immutable objects |
| 19:32.32 | malreth | if string.sub returns a string that doesn't already exist yet, then yes, it will allocate some amount of memory |
| 19:33.14 | Plorkyeran | but for i=1,100 do string.sub(...) end would only create one new string? |
| 19:33.37 | Plorkyeran | (Assuming ... is constant0 |
| 19:34.11 | mjc | um |
| 19:34.24 | yacoob | funny thing, *something* is updating my bars with latest version of the spell. I don't know what addon. Hrmph :D |
| 19:34.30 | yacoob | (no, not lern2spell) |
| 19:34.32 | malreth | so in this case... local foo = "x"; local bar = string.sub("xxx", 1, 2) ... string.sub generates no additional memory or strings |
| 19:34.41 | mjc | Plorkyeran: for i=1,100 do x = string.sub("foo","bar") end |
| 19:34.47 | mjc | that would only create one new string |
| 19:34.53 | malreth | foo and bar will point to the same string object in memory |
| 19:35.00 | Plorkyeran | Ah, thanks |
| 19:35.15 | malreth | mjc: well, that would generate an error, probably |
| 19:35.20 | mjc | well yeah |
| 19:35.25 | mjc | cause I know nothing about LUA syntax |
| 19:35.31 | malreth | oh |
| 19:35.31 | mjc | s/LUA/lua/ |
| 19:35.32 | malreth | ok |
| 19:35.43 | mjc | but, I know how to write software :P |
| 19:36.45 | Industrial | I now know why I dislike dewdrop |
| 19:36.52 | oxman | ah ah ah |
| 19:36.55 | Industrial | And in perticular sliders |
| 19:36.58 | oxman | i love the french community :'p |
| 19:37.00 | mjc | I dislike dewdrop's sliders a lot |
| 19:37.03 | oxman | Nobody cry about the rumour |
| 19:37.08 | oxman | everybody is happy :D |
| 19:37.24 | yacoob | THAT'S 50 DKP MINUS! |
| 19:37.24 | Industrial | When you are busy sliding it constantly sets the value |
| 19:37.28 | Industrial | eg the width |
| 19:37.33 | oxman | ;) |
| 19:37.41 | Industrial | it shouldnt only do that when you let go of the slider |
| 19:37.49 | Delsphynx | well, it makes sense if you are changing a color field |
| 19:37.55 | Delsphynx | because you can see the change in "real-time" |
| 19:37.56 | Industrial | it fucking lags my Geforce 9700GT |
| 19:38.04 | Delsphynx | but yeah, the kib/s increase is massive |
| 19:38.08 | Delsphynx | depending on what it is setting |
| 19:38.13 | Delsphynx | ag_UF has that problem at the moment |
| 19:38.15 | Industrial | that really needs to change |
| 19:38.17 | Delsphynx | with the border setting options |
| 19:38.18 | Industrial | IceHUD too |
| 19:38.21 | mjc | Xuerian|AFK: works now ;) |
| 19:38.24 | Industrial | with about everything |
| 19:38.35 | oxman | which problem with aguf ? |
| 19:38.42 | Industrial | oxman: read up. |
| 19:38.45 | Delsphynx | anything with a slider option |
| 19:38.53 | Delsphynx | causes massive garbage churn |
| 19:38.55 | oxman | kib/s ? |
| 19:39.04 | Delsphynx | because every second a function/variable/whatever is being done |
| 19:39.09 | Delsphynx | every pixel you move that slider |
| 19:39.13 | Industrial | wich sucks |
| 19:39.15 | Industrial | :( |
| 19:39.24 | oxman | you can avoid that |
| 19:39.28 | Industrial | cent even set a setting correctly and it starts lagging |
| 19:39.35 | Industrial | no you cant |
| 19:39.35 | oxman | and only set the value into your addon when the slider menu is off |
| 19:39.36 | oxman | :) |
| 19:39.39 | oxman | you can. |
| 19:39.50 | Industrial | you can not |
| 19:39.51 | Industrial | ingame |
| 19:39.58 | Industrial | and thats what the slider is for |
| 19:40.07 | oxman | you can. |
| 19:40.08 | oxman | :p |
| 19:40.13 | Industrial | how then smarty |
| 19:40.16 | Industrial | :) |
| 19:40.25 | oxman | read up |
| 19:40.33 | mjc | Xuerian|AFK: no options for XLM yet? :( |
| 19:40.37 | Industrial | 'set the value into your addon' ? |
| 19:40.50 | Industrial | you use the slider to set the value |
| 19:40.52 | Industrial | ... |
| 19:41.25 | Mikma | mjc: /xloot monitor |
| 19:41.29 | Delsphynx | i think he is saying you can separate the call to the function or whatever - you change the value, then the addon captures that value when the menu closes, and that is the value you pass to whatever function needs it |
| 19:41.29 | mjc | aha |
| 19:41.41 | mjc | Mikma: not a valid option |
| 19:41.48 | Industrial | the slider needs to set the value when you let go of the slider |
| 19:41.49 | Industrial | thats all |
| 19:41.53 | Industrial | not when draggin |
| 19:41.56 | Industrial | g |
| 19:42.02 | mjc | Industrial: it also needs more fine grained control |
| 19:42.12 | Delsphynx | agree on that one ^^ |
| 19:42.13 | Industrial | mjc: you can set a step |
| 19:42.24 | mjc | Industrial: no |
| 19:42.29 | mjc | I hate setting a 1-250 slider. I get like 101 or 99 |
| 19:42.30 | Industrial | so its snaps every 5, for example |
| 19:42.31 | mjc | instead of 100 |
| 19:42.34 | Delsphynx | even then though, it still seems to be a little bit "touchy" (maybe the steps I'm using aren't right or something) |
| 19:42.35 | Industrial | oh well |
| 19:42.39 | oxman | because its depend of ui scale |
| 19:42.39 | oxman | ;) |
| 19:42.44 | Industrial | ckknight didnt want to add an inputbox |
| 19:42.51 | Industrial | to every slider |
| 19:42.53 | Mikma | mjc: yes it is :P i used it like 1h ago |
| 19:44.18 | Industrial | wich would be very nice |
| 19:44.29 | Industrial | and would mean i can avoid sliders and play with the inputbox :P |
| 19:44.36 | mjc | yes |
| 19:44.44 | mjc | Industrial: patch it :p |
| 19:44.49 | mjc | I'd use it |
| 19:45.00 | Industrial | mjc: I have no idea of the workings of any library :< |
| 19:45.14 | mjc | probably jsut an xml |
| 19:45.18 | Delsphynx | I'd have a feeling ckknight might not appreciate that, either :P |
| 19:46.29 | Mikma | hmm some hours and my first Hocico album has been downloaded |
| 19:46.39 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r13197 10FuBar_TrackerFu/ (5 files): converted to ace2 by schelli, check out readme |
| 19:47.26 | Industrial | Mikma: \o/ |
| 19:49.15 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r13198 10FuBar_TrackerFu/: added externals |
| 19:50.30 | yacoob | hm... |
| 19:51.27 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x57327d44.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 19:51.37 | yacoob | Are AceWardrobe sets key-bindable? |
| 19:51.58 | mjc | AW's icky |
| 19:52.03 | mjc | use itemrack til someone ace2s a better one |
| 19:52.16 | yacoob | itemrack, hm... |
| 19:52.18 | Cheads | like acewardrobe better |
| 19:52.33 | yacoob | I guess I'll return to outfitter then :) |
| 19:52.35 | Cheads | itemrack has too many options I won't use =) |
| 19:54.33 | neale | aw does the job well enough for now |
| 19:55.04 | yacoob | not for me, if it's without keybindings |
| 19:56.52 | *** join/#wowace FroMaster (i=FroMaste@rrcs-24-199-20-58.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 19:57.28 | FroMaster | PerfectRaid is freaking out on me :( |
| 19:57.49 | neale | thank you for the very descriptive bug report |
| 19:57.50 | neale | :) |
| 19:58.11 | FroMaster | next to each listing is 'Might Wisdom Salv Light Sanc Kings' |
| 19:58.32 | yacoob | it shows lacking buffs |
| 19:58.35 | yacoob | you can turn it off |
| 19:59.30 | FroMaster | can i set it by class? |
| 20:03.19 | *** part/#wowace neale (n=rollo@204.50.77.42) |
| 20:03.55 | FroMaster | Can I set it to show only certain buffs by class? |
| 20:04.36 | *** join/#wowace neale (n=rollo@204.50.77.42) |
| 20:05.31 | yacoob | FroMaster, you can make different profiles. |
| 20:06.02 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r13199 10FuBar_TradeCDFu/ (5 files): |
| 20:07.56 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r13200 10FuBar_TradeCDFu/: added externals |
| 20:08.54 | JoshBorke | wb cladhaire |
| 20:09.24 | cladhaire | Sorry I was a bitch todya.. but stupid people bother me =) |
| 20:10.04 | Mikma | cladhaire: you wre? when :P |
| 20:10.11 | Tain | I forgive you cladhaire. |
| 20:10.13 | mjc | cladhaire: you seem to always have reason |
| 20:10.27 | JoshBorke | unjust as they may be? ;-) |
| 20:10.45 | Beladona | some people like bitchy |
| 20:10.50 | Beladona | ;D |
| 20:11.13 | Tain | I heard cladhaire got into a fistfight with Paris Hilton at a bar |
| 20:11.35 | cladhaire | Tain: I kicked that cunt in the face. |
| 20:11.37 | cladhaire | no joke! |
| 20:11.43 | Mikma | oh yeah true. i head he smacked her to canada |
| 20:11.49 | Beladona | and then she turned around and smiled at you? |
| 20:12.26 | cladhaire | =) |
| 20:12.32 | cladhaire | Beladona: I have videos |
| 20:12.32 | nevcairiel | Saroz: i might have a diff for you later, testing some new functionality i figured out today. maybe you like it, testing in bwl |
| 20:12.42 | Mikma | cladhaire: ss or it didn't happen |
| 20:12.48 | malreth | lol, clad |
| 20:12.55 | Saroz | nice nice |
| 20:12.58 | *** join/#wowace Delemoose (n=techjoe_@res24853.rh.rit.edu) |
| 20:13.43 | oxman | oh !!! |
| 20:13.56 | oxman | do you know how swimming without dead lots of hour ? |
| 20:14.59 | oxman | you only need more esprit than your health |
| 20:15.08 | oxman | http://dany999.free.fr/nager-sans-fatigue.avi |
| 20:15.15 | Tain | I hope everyone got to see the South Park episode. |
| 20:15.17 | oxman | you make a low level, then stuff it with + spirit |
| 20:15.28 | oxman | then you've 50 health and 5O spirit |
| 20:15.32 | oxman | and you can swim many hours :) |
| 20:16.14 | cladhaire | nice! |
| 20:16.29 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=Xuerian@12-196-151-225.psknet.net) |
| 20:20.23 | *** join/#wowace SlackerJer (n=slackerj@slacker.ucdavis.edu) |
| 20:21.08 | Mikma | ls |
| 20:21.12 | Mikma | kek |
| 20:21.20 | gnorlish | ~lart Mikma |
| 20:23.41 | malreth | whoa! |
| 20:25.46 | Xuerian | mjc: ping |
| 20:25.53 | mjc | it works now |
| 20:25.58 | Xuerian | Great =) |
| 20:26.18 | mjc | but mikma or someone said /xloot monitor was the config |
| 20:26.21 | mjc | and that doesn't work |
| 20:26.22 | mjc | :p |
| 20:26.43 | Xuerian | ./xlm options or /xloot options :P |
| 20:26.52 | mjc | tried those |
| 20:27.03 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.10 | mjc | and /xloot options doesn't show anything about XLM |
| 20:27.15 | mjc | but it does hsow up when I loot stuff |
| 20:27.23 | Xuerian | O_o |
| 20:27.31 | Mikma | lies |
| 20:27.43 | Mikma | i really used it 1,5 hour ago |
| 20:27.54 | Mikma | hided the anchor of xlootmaster |
| 20:27.55 | mjc | it always shows up in the center of the screen, which is kinda annoying |
| 20:28.00 | mjc | so I wanted to at least move it away |
| 20:28.16 | Xuerian | You can drag the loot without dragging the anchor, both moves the same thing :P |
| 20:28.29 | Xuerian | Anchor is just for seeing it when there's no loot, really |
| 20:28.44 | Xuerian | and yes /xloot monitor should work if it loaded right, it won't show the dewdrop but it is the monitor console menu |
| 20:29.55 | Xuerian | Hm. I left a lingering Print... .again... |
| 20:30.14 | *** join/#wowace FryGuy (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:31.35 | Xuerian | Using XLoot revision 13119 & monitor 13195, "/xlm|/xloot monitor" is the monitor console, "/xloot" is the xloot console, and " options" brings up the dewdrop on both |
| 20:32.10 | Mikma | Xuerian: yes. |
| 20:32.36 | Xuerian | Good. :P... Now to fix the print and see how fast I can add group loot. |
| 20:35.56 | CIA-17 | 03xuerian * r13201 10XLootMonitor/ (XLootMonitor.lua XLootMonitorOptions.lua): XLootMonitor: Removed lingering Print() at startup, added "/xlootmonitor" to slash commands. |
| 20:37.56 | mjc | thanks X |
| 20:39.54 | Xuerian | Have fun :P... May not be able to get much done on any of the fronts this weekend, company. /golfcheer |
| 20:40.16 | axxo | !info perfectraid |
| 20:41.02 | Shabador | cladhaire, are you going to use the color by class thingy from Oxman in a near revision of PerfectRaid? (Or upload his changes to a branch or something) |
| 20:41.17 | Shabador | *color healthbar by class |
| 20:41.51 | Tekkub | øffe |
| 20:41.58 | Shabador | Or oxman, go upload your stuff to a branch! Pretty please. ^^ |
| 20:45.35 | oxman | www.c-lafrance.com/wow/PerfectRaid-Revisited2.zip |
| 20:46.40 | mjc | nice |
| 20:46.41 | mjc | ditto |
| 20:49.17 | *** join/#wowace Health (n=thecooki@c-7619e655.132-1-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:49.57 | Industrial | damn wheres ckknight :( |
| 20:52.59 | Tain | Live to win.. 'til you die! |
| 20:59.46 | *** join/#wowace grzesieq (n=grzesieq@irssi/user/grzesieq) |
| 20:59.51 | Mikma | omg |
| 20:59.56 | Mikma | my guilds first nefakill |
| 21:00.05 | Machine_ | congrats |
| 21:00.07 | yacoob | impossible, you'll wake up in a moment. |
| 21:00.12 | Mikma | and the dragons colors were red and blue |
| 21:00.38 | Xuerian | Grats :P |
| 21:00.50 | yacoob | Mikma, good work :) |
| 21:01.24 | lacindas | gratz Mikma :) |
| 21:01.33 | Mikma | well i wasn't online :D |
| 21:01.41 | lacindas | hehe |
| 21:01.42 | Mikma | i was watching from my wifes monitor lol |
| 21:01.47 | lacindas | lol nice |
| 21:02.06 | Plorkyeran | Hah, wowexposed.de is getting smacked down by Blizz |
| 21:02.46 | Plorkyeran | Apparently they are actually enforcing the NDA :P |
| 21:03.02 | Tain | The nerve! |
| 21:03.15 | malreth | man... i wanna create a web site and put a donate money to meeeee link on it too! |
| 21:03.53 | Plorkyeran | Step 1: Do something illegal. Step 2: Get Sued. Step 3: Beg for money. |
| 21:04.20 | Industrial | Anyone have a screenshot of FuBar_ExpRepGlueFu/ ? |
| 21:06.23 | Tain | I have a screenshot of your mom! |
| 21:07.10 | Mikma | Tain: stop browsing the worldsbesthairyporn.com and let her be! |
| 21:07.36 | Tain | Did that Women of Warcraft porn site ever come up with anything other than a splash screen? |
| 21:07.54 | Mikma | Tain: yes, it did actually |
| 21:07.55 | Xuerian | Whorecraft? 0_o |
| 21:08.37 | Industrial | sad |
| 21:08.38 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:09.11 | Industrial | I'd rather have the ladies without the outfits really |
| 21:09.18 | Mikma | true |
| 21:09.18 | Industrial | -really |
| 21:10.15 | yacoob | hm |
| 21:10.26 | yacoob | Is VitalWatch warning via text messages or using emotes? :) |
| 21:11.26 | Industrial | Tekkub: ping |
| 21:12.02 | Tekkub | dong |
| 21:12.10 | Mikma | slong! |
| 21:12.16 | Industrial | whats keyQ ? |
| 21:12.21 | *** join/#wowace [1]Kebinusan (i=Kebinusa@adsl-69-208-93-223.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 21:12.23 | Industrial | and what does FuBar_KeyQ do? |
| 21:13.02 | Mikma | !notes FuBar_KeyQ |
| 21:13.02 | SVNBot | FuBar_KeyQ Notes: FuBar interface for the KeyQ embedded library. || http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/FuBar_KeyQ |
| 21:13.17 | Mikma | !notes KeyQ |
| 21:13.21 | Industrial | dun dun dun |
| 21:13.24 | Mikma | missing |
| 21:13.26 | Tekkub | Indie, if you use cork you don't need it :) |
| 21:14.35 | Industrial | Mikma: you can assume ive already read that when asking |
| 21:14.36 | Tekkub | KeyQ == KeyMinder embed |
| 21:14.36 | Mikma | Industrial: what? i didn't read |
| 21:14.36 | Industrial | Mikma: descriptions etc |
| 21:14.36 | Mikma | i got a nasty error with corkfu today :/ |
| 21:14.36 | Mikma | when i tried to click the buffing, i got a detox-error, yay |
| 21:14.36 | Industrial | Tekkub: hm so you can automate things with it? It provides a queing system etc? |
| 21:14.38 | Tekkub | you can toy with it if you want |
| 21:14.44 | Industrial | me likey |
| 21:14.47 | Mikma | ~inflatable dildo |
| 21:14.53 | Plorkyeran | http://www.errantstory.com/archive.php?date=2006-10-04 |
| 21:14.54 | Mikma | ~inflatable dildos |
| 21:14.55 | purl | Oh yea, stretch that hole! |
| 21:14.58 | Tekkub | take it for your own then, I don't use it anymore |
| 21:15.02 | Industrial | Ive always wanted to take the grind out if grinding soy uo only have to push 1 button :P |
| 21:15.33 | malreth | well no more... |
| 21:15.33 | Industrial | well that makes ot more of a grind but who cares |
| 21:15.50 | malreth | in the Burning Crusade, Blizzard is removing the ability to kill things. |
| 21:15.58 | Industrial | -_-' |
| 21:16.14 | Mikma | in BC they are also adding a Tauren Priest |
| 21:16.19 | mjc | in the burning crusade, blizzard is removing the ability to kill shamans |
| 21:16.31 | yacoob | Undead Hunter, and Tauren Rogue, yes Mikma! |
| 21:16.36 | Tekkub | I'd love to be a tauren priest |
| 21:16.39 | Mikma | tauren rogue would own |
| 21:16.40 | Industrial | tauren rogue lMAO |
| 21:16.44 | yacoob | imagine |
| 21:16.48 | Mikma | "oh gee, how didn't i see that one coming" |
| 21:16.49 | Industrial | thats so unreal |
| 21:17.00 | yacoob | *sneak*sneak*moo*sneak* |
| 21:17.03 | Industrial | imagine a tauren sneaking around with a bandana mask thingy |
| 21:17.10 | Mikma | clomp clomp clomp *AMBUSH* |
| 21:17.12 | yacoob | *unstealth* HOW THE HELL DID THAT GET HERE!?? |
| 21:17.19 | Industrial | lol |
| 21:17.33 | malreth | they hide by painting their hooves red |
| 21:17.42 | malreth | that's how they hide in cherry trees |
| 21:18.01 | haste | orcs + stealth = true tho' |
| 21:18.07 | haste | they are pretty large :p |
| 21:18.25 | Industrial | haste: ding 52 :P |
| 21:18.31 | haste | oO |
| 21:18.48 | yacoob | on some rp realm there was a discussion, how stealth really works |
| 21:19.00 | yacoob | because right now it works a bit like magical stuff |
| 21:19.06 | malreth | Do you know how Tarzan died? |
| 21:19.17 | malreth | Picking cherries. |
| 21:19.39 | yacoob | I liked the explanation with "making people look the other way" |
| 21:19.45 | yacoob | this would definitelly work for taurens too :) |
| 21:20.14 | vhaarr | Can someone kick schelli in the nuts? |
| 21:21.01 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (i=DEF@host86-137-81-195.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:21.02 | vhaarr | Thanks :) |
| 21:21.04 | malreth | what's he doing? |
| 21:21.17 | vhaarr | He sucks at commit messages. |
| 21:21.20 | malreth | s/?/ this time?/ |
| 21:29.56 | *** join/#wowace malreth (n=triti@cpe-72-179-20-11.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 21:30.02 | *** join/#wowace Gemski_ (n=Gemski@c-24-129-86-149.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 21:30.58 | phyber | Xuerian: XLootMonitor is kind of broken |
| 21:31.04 | phyber | after a while, the loot starts to overlap |
| 21:31.10 | Xuerian | o.0 |
| 21:31.16 | Xuerian | Latest build? hm |
| 21:31.20 | phyber | two pieces of loot at the bottom of it right now |
| 21:31.21 | phyber | yeah |
| 21:31.32 | phyber | I got it earlier and then upgraded to see if it was fixed. |
| 21:31.41 | phyber | I got a screenshot too, I'll upload somewhere in a moment. |
| 21:31.47 | Xuerian | That's probably me not re-attaching when they're the same, instead of attaching and erroring |
| 21:31.50 | Industrial | Tekkub: schlong |
| 21:32.30 | phyber | Xuerian: the pieces of loot are different |
| 21:32.33 | Mikma | ~moon Tekkub |
| 21:32.34 | purl | ACTION sends Tekkub to the moon on a frisbee. |
| 21:32.42 | phyber | [Nemesis Robes] and [Judgement Breastplate] at the moment. |
| 21:32.47 | Xuerian | phyber: Yeah, I know, It compares rows not contents of rows |
| 21:32.52 | phyber | ah |
| 21:32.53 | dreyruugr | why did I click those. |
| 21:32.59 | Mikma | ~screw Industrial |
| 21:33.02 | purl | ACTION asks Industrial to bend over |
| 21:33.02 | Xuerian | I'll see, send me a shot |
| 21:33.09 | CIA-17 | 03schelli * r13202 10FuBar_TrackerFu/FuBar_TrackerFu.lua: further code cleanup and improvement |
| 21:33.26 | Saroz | nevcairiel, whats the code |
| 21:33.59 | [1]Kebinusan | someone should tell schelli how to do commit messages |
| 21:34.20 | vhaarr | Yeah, please do. |
| 21:34.32 | *** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 21:36.31 | malreth | why not just suspend his svn account? |
| 21:38.07 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.27 | Tekkub | I just asked clad to point him at the page |
| 21:38.36 | MoonWolf | if he keeps doing so |
| 21:38.45 | MoonWolf | suspend him until his signs it. |
| 21:38.58 | Tekkub | "Please do not commit until you've read..." |
| 21:39.58 | Baraius | Heh |
| 21:40.14 | Baraius | I just tabbed over to my IRC window to see if anyone was going to say anything about that. :-) |
| 21:41.30 | Andalia | It's a wonder that he didn't realize that while reading other peoples commitlogs. That should be kinda self-explaining (at least for me it was) |
| 21:43.28 | phyber | Xuerian: http://linux-kernel.co.uk/images/WoWScrnShot_100606_223834.jpg |
| 21:43.35 | phyber | how it was after all loot was done. |
| 21:43.41 | phyber | note the gap between some loot too |
| 21:44.04 | *** join/#wowace Devour- (n=dev@host-81-191-100-67.bluecom.no) |
| 21:44.55 | phyber | oh, and the settings I've changed are: anchor off, spacing -4, timeout 0, stack 3 |
| 21:46.31 | yacoob | hm... |
| 21:46.37 | yacoob | is there a command to toggle minimap? |
| 21:47.38 | Royal | ToggleMinimap() ? |
| 21:47.51 | nevcairiel | Saroz: added detection for "Resurrected" and "Soulstone" status codes when dead |
| 21:47.52 | Xuerian | phyber: Thanks, I'll look at it in a minute, just saw that one of my psu's fans died |
| 21:47.55 | Mikma | yacoob: there is also a keybind for it |
| 21:48.05 | yacoob | erm... not the minimap, the bg minimap :) |
| 21:48.16 | phyber | ok, np. |
| 21:48.31 | Royal | ToggleBattlefieldMinimap() ,not sure |
| 21:54.49 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower_ (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 21:54.57 | *** join/#wowace Braennan (n=Braennan@16stb12.codetel.net.do) |
| 21:56.31 | *** join/#wowace leech2k (n=leech@deathgrab.com) |
| 21:57.29 | *** join/#wowace Caboose[FH] (n=Caboose9@cpe-66-8-166-76.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 21:59.03 | Saroz | nevcairiel: hrrm |
| 22:00.07 | Kebinusan | Saroz, is there an option to recolor units out of range in srf? |
| 22:00.16 | Saroz | no |
| 22:00.52 | Kebinusan | any plans to add something like that? |
| 22:00.58 | Saroz | hrrrm, yea |
| 22:01.10 | pastamancer | ~seen maia |
| 22:01.27 | purl | maia <n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 54m 5s ago, saying: 'ah, I missed the "in", sorry.'. |
| 22:01.50 | Kebinusan | spiffy |
| 22:02.03 | CIA-17 | 03bhattu * r13203 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua: Chronometer: Try and fix rapid spellcast attempts (i.e. Wing Clip/Concussive Shot macro), and try to fix some random self-buffs like Quick Shots and Clearcasting. |
| 22:02.06 | Royal | I've never used Fubar, and instead of installing it and figuring out I thought I'd ask you some questions =) Does the bar always take up the full width of the screen? And can it only be placed top/bottom? |
| 22:02.55 | Tekkub | The bar take up the top half of your screen, you have no options, it just does |
| 22:03.01 | Tekkub | it also eats kittens |
| 22:03.16 | Royal | That's so cool. |
| 22:03.20 | Health | http://85.230.25.118/img/raz.jpg - I'm bloated :( |
| 22:03.22 | Royal | Apart from the kitten part :( |
| 22:03.26 | Tekkub | simply put, FuBar does that shit you wished Titan did |
| 22:03.29 | yacoob | SCL is barfing at me :( |
| 22:03.52 | Meleganis | holy hell |
| 22:03.58 | Tekkub | don't need to ask about specific things you wish titan did, just install it |
| 22:04.06 | Royal | Tekkub, I've never used Titan either |
| 22:04.11 | Industrial | Health: what the freaking fuck is that ugly shit on the right side |
| 22:04.14 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:04.18 | Tekkub | then just shut up and install it :P |
| 22:04.18 | Royal | Yeah, suppose thats the best thing to do :P I'll go try it out |
| 22:04.35 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | that's some of the ugliest frames ive seen Health |
| 22:04.48 | Royal | But I kinda only want PerformanceFu! Overkill to get whole Fubar mod then, or not |
| 22:04.53 | Health | Thosre frames > bigwigs |
| 22:04.58 | Health | for a priest |
| 22:05.04 | Tekkub | I wouldn't call that bloat I'd call that clutter |
| 22:05.07 | Tekkub | get a second monitor |
| 22:05.44 | Health | Shows all cooldowns I should.. hehe |
| 22:05.53 | Tekkub | Royal, try GCInfo or whicher rename of it is the most recent |
| 22:05.59 | Health | The thing to the right shows all cooldowns on the adds |
| 22:06.02 | Industrial | http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_100706_000450197.jpg |
| 22:06.08 | Industrial | Now thats a nice interface |
| 22:06.15 | Industrial | yes thats right im using fubar o_O |
| 22:06.38 | Tekkub | indie, you're missing something there |
| 22:06.40 | Industrial | what |
| 22:06.41 | Tekkub | what is it... |
| 22:06.45 | Tekkub | oh yes, a UI |
| 22:06.53 | Industrial | well everything is there |
| 22:06.56 | Industrial | isnt it |
| 22:07.11 | Industrial | unitframes actionbar information |
| 22:07.12 | Tekkub | all I see is unsexy orc ass |
| 22:07.15 | Health | My UI is clean in none raid too |
| 22:07.37 | Health | Industrial: http://85.230.25.118/img/ui/idle.jpg |
| 22:07.44 | Industrial | Tekkub: yeah I ditch the clothe you start out with instantly when i make a new char |
| 22:07.58 | Xuerian | @#%!@.... blown powersupply ftl. |
| 22:08.10 | mjc | Health: fuck that's a lot of gold |
| 22:08.16 | Health | hehe |
| 22:08.35 | MoonWolf | forum and wiki accounts are seperate right tekkub ? |
| 22:08.43 | mjc | and why don't you have fubar_miniperfsfu on ;P |
| 22:08.44 | Industrial | Health: use a font with monospaced numbers |
| 22:08.59 | MoonWolf | omg indu using fubar |
| 22:09.03 | Industrial | mjc: cuz it was inaccurate and bugged |
| 22:09.06 | Tekkub | yes moon, till clad or kael can lern2ldap :) |
| 22:09.08 | mjc | ah |
| 22:09.15 | MoonWolf | who are you and what did you do to the real Industrial |
| 22:09.21 | Industrial | haha |
| 22:09.22 | Industrial | :D |
| 22:09.23 | Health | Industrial: Yeah.. |
| 22:09.24 | yssrn_ | !branches elkbuffbar |
| 22:09.30 | Tekkub | oh yea Royal, MiniPerfsFu |
| 22:09.36 | Tekkub | it's standalonable right? |
| 22:09.45 | Industrial | MoonWolf: look at my little cute tray on the right :-) |
| 22:09.51 | Royal | Tekkub yes, I tried it a few min ago |
| 22:10.01 | MoonWolf | trashvan ? |
| 22:10.15 | MoonWolf | can* |
| 22:10.30 | Royal | But it shows the info in 4 lines, not like the 1 line you get when having FuBar installed. But nvm, I'm gonna try out FuBar, perhaps I'll find some other nice plugins to it as well |
| 22:10.35 | Industrial | GarbageFu |
| 22:10.56 | *** join/#wowace nyvia (n=gsdg@c-68-45-127-10.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:11.06 | Tekkub | okey, enough distraction.... |
| 22:11.09 | Tekkub | I need food |
| 22:11.16 | Kebinusan | Thar be my ui: http://imagesocket.com/view/UI404.jpg |
| 22:11.29 | deci | http://www.imagesocket.com/view/bagspace_helpf52.JPG |
| 22:11.37 | deci | nice ui Kebinusan |
| 22:11.58 | *** part/#wowace nyvia (n=gsdg@c-68-45-127-10.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:12.00 | Royal | Industrial, PerformanceFu also innacurate, or only MiniPerfsFu? |
| 22:12.08 | *** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-387g1cd.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 22:12.27 | Industrial | no idea |
| 22:12.29 | Tekkub | inaccurate how? |
| 22:12.40 | Industrial | it acts wonky :( |
| 22:12.53 | Tekkub | define wonky |
| 22:13.04 | Industrial | not updating its display when it should |
| 22:13.09 | Royal | What's the difference between the Mini version and normal anyway? Less options? Or also a complete rewrite or smth |
| 22:13.10 | Industrial | 1000fps... |
| 22:13.11 | mjc | yeah, he's right |
| 22:13.15 | mjc | sometimes it shows 1000fps |
| 22:13.18 | Kebinusan | deci, thats alot of oily blackmouth |
| 22:13.32 | Tekkub | I assume the FPS number is stilla direct value from the API |
| 22:13.38 | deci | savory deviate delights! |
| 22:13.44 | Royal | Kebinusan, aren;t those deviates? :) |
| 22:13.51 | mjc | Health: is that combat log mod Yule or something else? |
| 22:14.19 | Tekkub | if self:IsShowingFramerate() then |
| 22:14.19 | Tekkub | local framerate = floor(GetFramerate() + 0.5) |
| 22:14.19 | Tekkub | table_insert(t, format("|cff%s%d|r fps", Crayon:GetThresholdHexColor(framerate / 60), framerate)) |
| 22:14.28 | Kebinusan | oh damn deviate fish |
| 22:14.30 | Industrial | Question: Is it true that when available/usable Backstab is always better (in damage output) then Sinister Strike? |
| 22:14.30 | Kebinusan | even worse |
| 22:14.44 | Tekkub | looks to me like GetFramerate is probably to blame |
| 22:14.57 | mjc | Industrial: if you are specced to do damage w/ daggers then yes |
| 22:14.59 | deci | Industrial: depends on weapon/atk power and crit |
| 22:15.37 | mjc | Tekkub: duratek doesn't remember that I don't want it to show its icon :( |
| 22:15.50 | Tekkub | duratek has no savedvars |
| 22:15.54 | mjc | ah |
| 22:15.56 | Tekkub | I think... |
| 22:16.01 | Industrial | Another question: Can I make a macro that casts both spells so that I get a backstab when behind someone and a sinister strike when not? |
| 22:16.09 | mjc | Industrial: yes |
| 22:16.12 | Industrial | hurray |
| 22:16.14 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.119) |
| 22:16.15 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 22:16.21 | Industrial | first macro ill ever use lol |
| 22:16.44 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:16.51 | Cairenn | hi ckknight |
| 22:16.52 | Industrial | lo ckknight |
| 22:16.57 | Industrial | ah ck! me first |
| 22:17.03 | Industrial | okay: |
| 22:17.09 | Tekkub | I'M A COW! MOOOOO! DUH! MOOOOOOOOOO! |
| 22:17.10 | *** join/#wowace kkix (i=olight@211.177.40.165) |
| 22:17.47 | ckknight | Industrial, hrm? |
| 22:17.48 | Industrial | Dewdrop sliders update whenever you move one pixel. Some addons like IceHud and ag_Unitframes make it lag so badly your whole screen locks up for a few secs when moving a slider 10 pixels. |
| 22:17.59 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 22:18.06 | Industrial | ckknight: Could you please make it so that dewdrop only sets the value when you let go of a slider? |
| 22:18.23 | Health | mjc, just simplecombatlog |
| 22:18.29 | Industrial | real-time is nice but not if its way way way too heavy :( |
| 22:18.29 | ckknight | make agUF more efficient :-P |
| 22:18.37 | Industrial | made my geforce 9700gt cringe heh |
| 22:18.55 | mjc | ah |
| 22:20.25 | Industrial | ckknight: but ck I think its a pretty good idea :P |
| 22:20.34 | Industrial | ckknight: just like inputboxes with sliders *cough cough* |
| 22:21.45 | ckknight | for that, you should use steps |
| 22:21.47 | dreyruugr | Industrial: what about when you do things like use the slider to adjust minimap button pos? |
| 22:21.55 | Industrial | mjc, deci; http://imagesocket.com/view/WoWScrnShot_100706_002048911.jpg |
| 22:22.04 | Industrial | dreyruugr: what about it? you let go and it sets the pos |
| 22:22.13 | Royal | Hm, how come the BigWigs FuBar plugin icon is behind the actual bar |
| 22:22.32 | dreyruugr | Industrial: it should be realtime |
| 22:22.53 | ckknight | I prefer realtime changing |
| 22:22.57 | ckknight | I do not plan on changing it |
| 22:22.57 | mjc | ..ok? |
| 22:23.02 | Industrial | well poo :( |
| 22:23.02 | dreyruugr | click "nope." click "nope." click "overshot." click "too far again" |
| 22:23.04 | ckknight | I made it so that it should be that way. |
| 22:23.08 | Industrial | mjc: didnt work heh |
| 22:23.32 | dreyruugr | You could make your addon not update in realtime |
| 22:23.36 | Royal | How about adding a Editbox next to each slider to type in a value :P |
| 22:23.37 | ckknight | complain to ag that changing it takes too long |
| 22:23.45 | dreyruugr | Royal: stepsize |
| 22:23.46 | ckknight | it's agUF's problem, not Dewdrop's, imho |
| 22:24.05 | ckknight | yea, with a proper stepsize, it's a lot simpler/better than having a confusing input box |
| 22:24.12 | Industrial | mjc, deci; any idea? :D |
| 22:24.26 | dreyruugr | having an extra input box would just be poor, inellegant design |
| 22:24.28 | Industrial | ckknight: having an inputbox isnt confusing at all |
| 22:24.36 | Industrial | ckknight: its just a nmber that changes while you slide |
| 22:24.41 | Industrial | like the one already there |
| 22:24.48 | Industrial | but then you can edit it and press enter |
| 22:24.51 | Industrial | and it also sets the value |
| 22:24.54 | Industrial | thats all |
| 22:25.02 | ckknight | but using a stepsize solves the issue, so there is no problem |
| 22:25.07 | Industrial | no it doesnt |
| 22:25.09 | dreyruugr | Industrial: adding that is basically curing the symptom, instead of the ailment |
| 22:25.09 | Industrial | what if i want 1001 |
| 22:25.16 | ckknight | you don't. |
| 22:25.20 | Industrial | yes i do |
| 22:25.23 | ckknight | I doubt that. |
| 22:25.27 | Industrial | what if |
| 22:25.30 | Industrial | and i did on occasions |
| 22:25.55 | Industrial | ckknight: the config of Discord makes use of it |
| 22:26.01 | Industrial | ckknight: ever tried? |
| 22:26.03 | Industrial | i love it |
| 22:26.03 | Industrial | .. |
| 22:26.12 | ckknight | so feel free to use that instead |
| 22:26.21 | Industrial | ckknight: now thats a bit weak init |
| 22:26.22 | ckknight | I am nowhere near convinced |
| 22:27.04 | Industrial | If I want to set an option to a value i cant reach with a slider - stepper or not - I still want that value |
| 22:27.21 | Industrial | The point its that you want me to adapt to the snapped value of the slider, but I dont want that value |
| 22:27.22 | ckknight | but how likely is it that you want that value? |
| 22:27.39 | Industrial | I want my value, and the slider is inaccturate in getting me there |
| 22:27.41 | dreyruugr | Industrial: If you can't reach the value with the slider than there's a problem with how the addon is using the slider |
| 22:27.44 | ckknight | frankly, I don't see you wanting 96 when 95 is available |
| 22:27.47 | ckknight | or what have you. |
| 22:27.48 | Industrial | I have to go into the SV file every time |
| 22:28.16 | mjc | Industrial: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3158-1-autorogue.html |
| 22:28.25 | mjc | code is in there :) |
| 22:28.53 | Industrial | mjc: thanks |
| 22:29.02 | Industrial | ckknight: because of UI scale |
| 22:29.03 | mjc | yep |
| 22:29.11 | Royal | The fubar volume icon I see on a lot of screenshots is FuBar_VolumeFu I assume? |
| 22:29.17 | Industrial | ckknight: things look awful one pixel or percent smaller |
| 22:29.25 | Industrial | so i want it one larger |
| 22:29.46 | Tekkub | yes royal |
| 22:29.58 | Industrial | ckknight: you cant say that you have never had this |
| 22:30.07 | ckknight | nope, never had. |
| 22:30.16 | Industrial | theres frames you make with lua that are 2px wide sometimes when you tell them to be 1 |
| 22:30.35 | Industrial | move them one pixel to the right and they are fine |
| 22:30.45 | Industrial | its the UI scaling |
| 22:31.31 | Industrial | ckknight: it might not be your addons problem because its not your addon's value |
| 22:31.42 | Industrial | ckknight: but its your addon that I need to use to configure it |
| 22:32.15 | ckknight | talk to the author of the addon about this, I don't see this as Dewdrop's problem |
| 22:32.15 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=no@222-153-99-6.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 22:32.19 | Sole | hi |
| 22:32.22 | Industrial | I want slash commands back :( |
| 22:33.09 | ckknight | Industrial, so talk to the authors of the addons. You're one of the few who prefer slash commands |
| 22:33.12 | Plorkyeran | If it's using dewdrop slash commands should be pretty trivial to add |
| 22:33.15 | ckknight | I much prefer a clean, GUI interface |
| 22:33.50 | dreyruugr | ckknight: maybe a setting to change the height of the slider window? More height means finer control for the cases where someone has a slider going from -1000 to 1000 |
| 22:33.54 | Industrial | i prefer accuracy |
| 22:34.39 | Plorkyeran | The main problem here is that WoW's sliders are terrible, not with dewdrop or anything else, though |
| 22:34.48 | Plorkyeran | Even the ones in the default UI suck |
| 22:35.34 | Industrial | I still say that because of UI scaling I cant get the value I want, and its not the addons fault. |
| 22:36.30 | Industrial | cant believe noone else has this problem |
| 22:36.40 | mjc | I have it |
| 22:37.09 | Plorkyeran | I just do everything with Visor |
| 22:37.33 | pastamancer | I have a lot of frame scale settings that I have to tweak by hand |
| 22:37.52 | dreyruugr | ckknight: |
| 22:37.56 | pastamancer | running 1024x768 on a 21" monitor means I scale everything way down |
| 22:38.31 | dreyruugr | alternately, arrows could be added... one on top, one on bottom to do single digit adjustments |
| 22:40.25 | *** join/#wowace Neebler (n=bum@adsl-66-122-185-241.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 22:41.32 | Industrial | dreyruugr: anything please :P |
| 22:41.38 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 22:41.38 | Neebler | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showUI.pl?msgnum=819 |
| 22:41.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 22:41.40 | Neebler | bubbleicious |
| 22:41.48 | Mikma | Neebler: is that over 200mb? |
| 22:41.52 | Neebler | no |
| 22:41.59 | Neebler | its bubbly |
| 22:42.16 | dreyruugr | Industrial: what ranges are the addons using that have this issue? |
| 22:42.34 | dreyruugr | Industrial: maybe they need to add another slide for fine tuning |
| 22:42.36 | Neebler | the unitframes are ugly. but the bottom section is cool |
| 22:42.39 | Mikma | aaand it's porpably 150mb |
| 22:43.57 | Industrial | dreyruugr: its not one addon specifically. The problem will always be there :| |
| 22:43.59 | *** join/#wowace dominic_ (n=chatzill@p50907A82.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:44.25 | Industrial | ckknight: what about the arrows then |
| 22:44.38 | Industrial | ckknight: as long as it works |
| 22:44.38 | Neebler | mikma: you're so negative when it comes to discord :P |
| 22:44.48 | dreyruugr | Industrial: well, if the addons are scaling from 0 to 1,000,000 it's really their own fault... that's why I'm wondering what ranges you're talking about |
| 22:44.58 | Mikma | Neebler: i'm only negative when it comes to the mem the ui's use |
| 22:45.14 | Industrial | dreyruugr: 1-100/255 ? |
| 22:45.14 | ckknight | I'd really need a specific example of what's bothering you |
| 22:45.38 | dreyruugr | Industrial: Do you run with a really small UI scale? |
| 22:45.42 | Industrial | yes |
| 22:45.44 | *** join/#wowace Cartass (i=DEF@host86-133-152-157.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:45.51 | Industrial | 0.6333etc |
| 22:46.05 | Industrial | and on 1680x1050 |
| 22:46.08 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) |
| 22:47.51 | mjc | Xuerian: l2upsp |
| 22:47.55 | mjc | s/upsp/ups |
| 22:47.56 | mjc | http://rafb.net/paste/results/zZUqRR74.html (1 line) |
| 22:47.59 | mjc | dammmit. |
| 22:48.02 | mjc | Xuerian: l2ups |
| 22:48.07 | Xuerian | Nah, extremely dusty house :P |
| 22:48.58 | Industrial | ckknight: whats there not to get? UI scaling causes me not to be able to set a slider to a value I want. Using a stepper partially solves it because often the value is right on where it snaps. Sometimes I want to se the slider to something between two snaps - but cant. |
| 22:49.26 | Industrial | Im asking for a way to fine tune |
| 22:50.23 | Royal | http://members.home.nl/m.royal/ui_fubar.jpg -- Still don't like FuBar :( |
| 22:50.45 | mjc | Royal: what don't you like about it |
| 22:50.53 | Industrial | I cant show you a specific case because its not a problem with the addons themselves. |
| 22:51.07 | Royal | I dunno, I like all the features it has, as in, the plugins.. but I don't like the looks of all of it :P |
| 22:51.09 | mjc | Industrial: I have the same issue. |
| 22:51.12 | Royal | can't seem to find a nice spot for it |
| 22:51.21 | mjc | Royal: you can detach the bars |
| 22:51.28 | Royal | Yeah I know, but still :P |
| 22:51.30 | Sole | bah this is just annoying |
| 22:51.39 | Industrial | http://www.discordmods.com/DiscordFrameModifier/Screenshots/DFM.jpg |
| 22:51.44 | Industrial | ckknight: see these sliders? |
| 22:51.46 | Sole | the transparent texture bug with candybar is affect antagonist and ocd |
| 22:51.49 | Industrial | its very handy |
| 22:51.53 | mjc | http://325i.org/wow/images/bwl3.png |
| 22:52.21 | haste | Sole: Someone complained about it happening when using Chronometer with oCD also |
| 22:52.25 | Industrial | ckknight: and shouldnt be a problem with wrong inputs because you set a minmax for a slider right? |
| 22:53.15 | mjc | I usually run at 2560x1600 w/ a UI scale of 1. |
| 22:53.29 | Industrial | ckknight: you could just add arrows on top/bottom of the slider or make the text that displays the value editable |
| 22:53.32 | Industrial | thats all |
| 22:54.24 | Industrial | lol |
| 22:55.11 | Industrial | ckknight: ? |
| 22:55.20 | mjc | he probably pinged out |
| 22:55.34 | Industrial | ffs ill have to repase :P |
| 22:55.40 | Industrial | repaste* |
| 22:55.44 | ckknight | hrm |
| 22:56.39 | Industrial | ckknight: me love you long time then :< and mjc :3 |
| 22:59.47 | ckknight | what do I get? |
| 23:00.41 | Mikma | ckknight: long love of Industrial.. the whole 15cm! |
| 23:00.52 | Industrial | lol |
| 23:01.33 | ckknight | 15cm... how many is that in inches? |
| 23:01.40 | ckknight | much* |
| 23:01.43 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 23:01.48 | Mikma | can purl convert them? |
| 23:01.54 | Cairenn | 5 cm = 2 inches |
| 23:01.57 | ckknight | lol, that's 6 inches |
| 23:01.58 | Mikma | purl: 15 cm inch |
| 23:02.05 | nevcairiel | google can do that |
| 23:02.06 | Industrial | 15 centimeters = 5.90551181 inches |
| 23:02.15 | ckknight | hehe, I'm bigger |
| 23:02.22 | *** join/#wowace [1]Kebinusan (i=Kebinusa@adsl-69-208-93-223.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 23:02.30 | Industrial | lmao |
| 23:03.00 | Mikma | righto, now this is getting a whole new aspect |
| 23:03.08 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-1b9b72d5.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 23:03.35 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 23:05.51 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5174/olehsnutsfe1.jpg pfft clean nice UI =D |
| 23:07.03 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-68-57-185-39.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 23:07.06 | *** join/#wowace [2]Kebinusan (i=Kebinusa@adsl-69-208-93-223.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 23:07.27 | haste | why should everyone take a screenshot? |
| 23:07.55 | Mikma | haste: because it's OLEH who's telling them to do it! |
| 23:07.59 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | true =D |
| 23:08.00 | Industrial | to show everyone else |
| 23:08.01 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | well |
| 23:08.06 | haste | MINUS 500 DKP! |
| 23:08.08 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | some same people were whiping us on cthun |
| 23:08.23 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | or dying 24-7 on dark glare/green beam |
| 23:08.32 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | so screen to prove cthunwarner |
| 23:08.38 | ckknight | ~moredots |
| 23:08.39 | purl | You are going to DPS very, very slowly... and I mean f*cking slow! |
| 23:08.41 | haste | lol |
| 23:08.54 | haste | oh ckknight, are there still errors in AceComm? |
| 23:09.19 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | lol =D |
| 23:09.21 | haste | Yes or no would be more then enough |
| 23:09.23 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | our raidleaders yell, A LOT |
| 23:09.26 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | in scottish |
| 23:09.49 | Royal | lol :) |
| 23:09.55 | Mikma | [Ez]Dustwhisper: and your playing on nordrassil? ;) |
| 23:10.11 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | shadow moon |
| 23:10.30 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (i=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au) |
| 23:10.35 | Mikma | our gl is scottish too and we can't understand wtf he's saying because he's scottish and has a bad mic |
| 23:10.40 | Mikma | it sounds like it's up his ass |
| 23:10.42 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | he |
| 23:10.50 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | we have several scottish, irish, british |
| 23:10.53 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | it rocks tbh =D |
| 23:11.05 | Chippen|TaE | [Ez]Dustwhisper uses a bidsystem! |
| 23:11.09 | Chippen|TaE | and its ftl! |
| 23:11.13 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | true :/ |
| 23:11.15 | Chippen|TaE | :( |
| 23:11.36 | *** join/#wowace Mery (i=metelman@p54AEDD6B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:11.43 | haste | ckknight: I might have to use AceComm, and if the error is still present I'll see if I can find a solution for it |
| 23:11.53 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | im gonna suggest zerosum one with set values though |
| 23:12.01 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | and more class restrictions |
| 23:12.15 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster` (i=Arrow@cpe-24-209-111-105.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 23:12.20 | mjc | trying to decide... mac pro for $2100 or random parts for my existing machine for $1k |
| 23:12.26 | ckknight | haste, what error? |
| 23:13.29 | haste | ckknight: I believe it was a nil error, and people said AceComm was the source of it |
| 23:13.45 | mjc | Delemoose: in order to upgrade my current machine I'd need a new motherboard, new ram, video card, second cpu, |
| 23:14.30 | ckknight | haste, well, I'd have to know the error. I believe it was a ChatThrottleLib error, which I fixed |
| 23:14.59 | haste | ckknight: okey, I'll use it then ;) |
| 23:17.56 | mjc | Delemoose: the mac pro is dual xeon (basically two core duos with more cache) |
| 23:18.14 | mjc | so basically four physical CPUs on two sockets |
| 23:23.15 | Royal | Is it possible to actually move FuBar_plugin text or icons off of the bar? And place them anywhere in the window instead of left/center/right on a bar |
| 23:23.40 | Royal | anywhere in the window being anywhere in the UI |
| 23:24.02 | yacoob | Royal, not exactly |
| 23:24.15 | yacoob | Royal, you can "unpin" plugin and make icon attach itself to minimap |
| 23:24.31 | yacoob | and you can (independent of above) detach tooltip and move it around the screen |
| 23:24.43 | Royal | Was hoping it would be possible to just place the PerformanceFu text anywhere, or the VolumeFu icon |
| 23:25.02 | ckknight | Royal, you can attach it to the minimap |
| 23:25.02 | yacoob | don't think so |
| 23:25.14 | ckknight | and then move the minimap button off the minimap |
| 23:25.25 | lacindas | royal: create a new bar, put "x" on it, resize bar to only that size, transparency = 0 |
| 23:25.35 | lacindas | or what ckk said |
| 23:26.10 | Royal | In what way resize the bar? |
| 23:26.22 | Royal | It always takes up the full width of the screen right |
| 23:26.30 | lacindas | nope, you can resize it |
| 23:26.48 | lacindas | just click and drag the end-points |
| 23:27.18 | Royal | aah, didn't know, seems that's exaclty what I was looking for |
| 23:27.22 | Royal | Will try it out, thanks |
| 23:27.29 | lacindas | np =) |
| 23:29.22 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=Xuerian@12-196-151-193.psknet.net) |
| 23:33.27 | ckknight | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2322478880766260791 |
| 23:37.26 | yacoob | Eh? :D |
| 23:37.36 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jBEEtoPzS8 |
| 23:37.38 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | that's just class |
| 23:37.39 | [Ez]Dustwhisper | tbh |
| 23:37.49 | yacoob | http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/articles/view.cfm?AID=228 - was the addon site hacked, or did they do that on purpose? |
| 23:39.21 | Cairenn | which site? :p |
| 23:39.28 | *** join/#wowace kb1ibt (n=kb1ibt@c-24-61-9-71.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 23:39.36 | yacoob | the one they write about in this article :P |
| 23:39.39 | yacoob | ui.worldofwar.net :P |
| 23:39.56 | DrDre | O.o |
| 23:46.51 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=chatzill@ghybel696.krs.hia.no) |
| 23:47.24 | vhaarr | Anyone know how I can get a table reference to the internal AceLocale table? |
| 23:47.34 | vhaarr | I want to extract a random string from a AceLocale object. |
| 23:47.45 | yacoob | I just wonder if they got hacked or they were blatant enough to do such thing for themselves, Cairenn. |
| 23:48.03 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 23:48.03 | Cairenn | I don't know |
| 23:48.12 | yacoob | Still, eh. |
| 23:49.15 | haste | Time to: Ask Devla! |
| 23:49.42 | [FH]Birdemani | so no real way to fix the floatingchatframe error yet? |
| 23:49.55 | haste | [FH]Birdemani: more information? |
| 23:50.39 | [FH]Birdemani | apparently if you have acecomm or squishy installed you cannot mouse over your chat tab menu without getting it |
| 23:54.55 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 23:55.35 | haste | Have to look into that then |
| 23:56.20 | Xuerian | Seeing as squishy uses acecomm..... It happens when Acecomm tries to hook the dropdown menu for channels |
| 23:58.42 | [FH]Birdemani | so here is my question about that: I disable squishy on my warrior from the addons menu. but I still get that error, what else uses acecom? |
