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00:00.04MpstarkYea.
00:00.05ckknightor what have you.
00:00.25Industrialthe word is iterator
00:00.33Mpstarkthank you?
00:00.35Industrial;)
00:00.44MpstarkI say it wrong.
00:00.54MpstarkI spelt it the way I say it.
00:00.58Mpstark=P
00:02.37Industrialwe are the seven, judgement from heaven la la la la
00:03.14Industrialhowcome christian although maybe made up content mixed with metal sounds cool?
00:04.07ckknightand t[i] isn't an iterator
00:04.11ckknightpairs(t) is an iterator
00:04.17ckknightt[i] is just a table access
00:04.48Industrialin a for loop its an iterator :p
00:05.05ckknightno, no it's not.
00:05.11Industrialwell now you say so it does sound wrong
00:05.15Industrial:S
00:05.16MpstarkBut you are iterator-ing through it.
00:05.22ckknightiterating.
00:05.30ckknightactually, not really, you're just accessing it
00:05.33Mpstark=P
00:05.37ckknightyou could iterator through it if you did:
00:05.42ckknightfor k,v in pairs(t) do
00:05.47ckknightprint(v.rank)
00:05.48ckknightend
00:05.51Industrialiterate*
00:05.54MpstarkYes. I misworded it.
00:05.56Industrialkekekek
00:06.13ckknightI'm contemplating dropping Probability
00:06.18ckknightcause I just don't feel like it today.
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00:08.47mjcmoo.
00:08.55mjcno more anon svn :'(
00:10.00ckknightalright, I gotta go eat
00:10.03ckknightso cya all later
00:11.49mjccya ck
00:12.04MpstarkThanks for all the help
00:13.05mjcand fish
00:14.40Sarozgive SVN
00:14.48Sarozauth is broken atm
00:15.48hastewoohoo!
00:15.52hasteluaforge is online again :D
00:16.43Tekkubckk... abacus... ## X-Caterogy: Library
00:16.45Tekkub:)
00:17.00vhaarr~lost svn
00:17.17vhaarrbah, I thought he had a trigger for everything
00:18.20haste~find svn
00:18.32hastehmm
00:18.36hastethat wasn't so smart
00:18.40haste0215.33| [freenode] [purl(i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt)] Updating debian files... please wait.
00:18.46pastamanceradding raidtarget icons to aguf was much easier than I expected
00:20.07MpstarkThanks for all the help!
00:21.11eternally777Awesome.
00:25.13vhaarrsvn is up but my l/p doesn't work
00:25.15vhaarr?
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00:25.49dreyruugrsame issue here vhaarr
00:25.54vhaarrk
00:26.59GalkaI should developr a shitty, useless addon (hah as if i can code) and get precious SVNa ccess :/
00:27.19SH|ShabadorMe to. Does a "Hello world" addon count...?
00:27.26Galkalol I was thinking the same thing.
00:27.38Tekkub*eyeroll*
00:27.48GalkaShush you
00:27.48Tekkubwhat's wrong with the zips, once the SVN is working again?
00:28.04vhaarrI want to commit :(
00:28.08Sarozsae
00:28.11Sarozsame
00:28.15GalkaThere is no right answer to that question for all answers lead to agitated-Tekkubs.
00:28.25SH|ShabadorAs soon as the zip script is working there's no problem.
00:28.44vhaarr~seen maia
00:28.58purlmaia <n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 16m 43s ago, saying: 'dont think there is'.
00:29.06vhaarrSaroz: was it you who complained about the cripple thing?
00:29.14Sarozyus
00:29.18vhaarrSaroz: rejoyce, then, I've fixed it.
00:29.22Saroz<3
00:29.44vhaarrwith imbaness dynamic debuff skipping
00:29.54Sarozwowz
00:30.39vhaarrskipping Cripple is still the default though :P
00:30.42vhaarrHAH
00:31.19Sarozfucker!
00:31.59Sarozanyway, gn
00:32.06SarozSVN commit tomorrow then
00:32.09vhaarrwell I can't commit
00:32.12vhaarrya nn
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00:38.56eternally777oRA2 MT isn't compatible with Clique :-(
00:39.28Azurewratheternally777: tried /ora mt frames clickcast?
00:40.55Azurewrathdoes anyone have the latest revision of HostelBar and/or PubCrawl and/or Bongos somewhere and could DCC them to me? Addon-testing-fever and SVN is down /cry
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00:42.08AzurewrathMikma: btw. just tried Bartender2.. does not fit my needs, but it's a fine mod.. keep it up :)
00:43.03Kaeltenhows it going
00:43.12KaeltenI just made the pm page in the forums a little more usable
00:43.43eternally777Cool
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00:44.03eternally777On that note, have you ever been thirsty and no matter what you drink, it just doesn't quench it?
00:44.16jaz`anyone around to answer a guick question about detox? ><
00:44.34Tekkubkael, you need to fix the messagebox style, it's making the ? icon go all stretchy
00:44.35jaz`quick even
00:44.38Tekkubit didn't used to...
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00:44.59vhaarrjaz`: yes
00:45.06vhaarrjaz`: just ask, don't ask to ask
00:45.06KaeltenTekkub: hrm?
00:45.16KaeltenI havn't changed the styles on the wiki
00:45.30jaz`does it have a gui available like decursive does, as opposed to minimap button/FuBar menu?
00:45.38Tekkubwell http://www.wowace.com/index.php/FuBar
00:45.39vhaarryes it does
00:45.44vhaarrjaz`: "Show live list"
00:45.47Arrowmasterhow do you enable bossblock in ora2?
00:45.51Tekkubit didn't used to do that, removing the style from the table fixes it
00:46.02vhaarrArrowmaster: there is no bossblock
00:46.08jaz`awesome, thanks. i'll tinker with it more. :)
00:46.11Arrowmasteri thought it was added a while back
00:46.39vhaarrjaz`: You'll probably get a new version tomorrow, I have added alot of things but I can't commit them now.
00:46.45vhaarrjaz`: since our svn server is down.
00:47.25AzurewrathArrowmaster: BossBlock is a part of BigWigs, not oRA/oRA2
00:47.36jaz`ah, okay. awesome. i'm making the switch to ace mods from stuff like discord, and other bloated things
00:47.40jaz`so all of these are rather new to me
00:48.03Arrowmasteryeah i know that, but ora used to have its own blockboss setting for ctraid /rs annoucements
00:48.12jaz`gone down from 60mb memory usage to 25 so.. obviously i've made a good change. also i've gained about 10 more fps
00:48.21Arrowmasterbecause bossblock in bigwigs doesnt work with ora and ora2
00:48.29vhaarryes it does
00:48.38Tekkubno it doesn't
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00:48.48TekkubBB doesn't fuck with oRA because oRA handles it on it's own
00:48.49Arrowmastertold you
00:49.08vhaarrit works with oRA1, you added that yourself tek
00:49.12Tekkubbecause oRA is repeating shit from the stupid raidsay channel that shouldn't exist into the raidwarn frame
00:49.20Azurewrathit does not work with oRA2 because oRA2 adds the name of the /rw writer in Front of it afair
00:49.23KaeltenTekkub: fixed now
00:49.32Tekkubno vhaarr, it just has an option to toggle oRA's setting
00:49.41vhaarrwell that sounds like it's working to me
00:49.54Arrowmasterand i swear i remember seeing an svn commit about blockboss in ora2 but i cant find the option to enable it
00:50.01Tekkubbut it doesn't have a setting for oRA2
00:50.10Tekkubyea ammo said he did
00:50.27AzurewrathArrowmaster: just found /ora rw bossblock in oRA2
00:50.34Azurewrathcan't test it now though
00:51.14Arrowmasterim getting "not a valid option" for /ora rw
00:53.33Azurewrathwhat oRA2 revision do you use?
00:55.10Arrowmasterthe lastest one i could get from the svn before it went down i think
00:55.21Arrowmaster10011
00:56.19vhaarr10047 is the most recent one
00:56.43Arrowmasterhmm i see 10922 on files/
00:57.36Azurewrathmhm.. /ora about tells me 10946
00:57.47Tekkubhttp://groups.google.com/group/wowace
00:57.49Tekkub11029
00:59.39Arrowmasterand were can i get 11029
01:00.00Tekkub...from the svn...
01:00.12Azurewrathsince the SVN is down.. from nowhere.. but i can send you 10946
01:00.33Tekkubyou could extract a diff from the ggroup emails
01:01.51Kaeltensvn should be back up *soon*
01:01.55Kaeltenclads been working hard
01:02.30Azurewrath*soon* as *soon*.. or more as *when it's done*? ;)
01:02.51Arrowmasteryeah i cant update from the svn anymore because i dont have an account
01:03.06Kaeltensoon as in soon
01:03.13Arrowmasterwhich sucks because i had a lot of things from /branches
01:03.40Kaeltenwell depending on how things go  I may be able to reoffer public usage
01:03.51Kaeltenat least on non patch days
01:03.55Kaeltenbut I can't promise it
01:04.02vhaarrKaelten: some guy in my guild offered his servers for wowace svn
01:04.17Arrowmasterwhat about accounts for non developers but 'testers'
01:04.24vhaarrKaelten: should I find out more?
01:04.37Kaeltenarrowmaster, and thats another thought, I'm not sure how we'd manage it though
01:04.45Kaeltenvhaar: not yet, but I'll keep it in mind
01:04.53vhaarrok
01:05.07Tekkubyea, a public SVN mirror might not be a bad idea
01:05.21Tekkubstill encourage use of the Zips for most users
01:05.38Tekkubbut the ones that want to venture with SVN programs could do so
01:05.52Tekkubwould probably want to filter out externals on the mirror though
01:06.03Tekkuband force those users to maintain standalones
01:06.09KaeltenI'm talking with dolby about potentially moving the svn there, but thats probably several weeks away
01:06.22eternally777dolby?
01:06.46eternally777I can host it on my on X-Box, it has linux :)
01:06.46Kaeltenthe guy who runs wowinterface and owns the server that wowace is on
01:06.49Tekkubwe've got people that like SVN to download from... why not move that load elsewhere :)
01:06.57Azurewratha SVN mirror sounds like a good idea.. but without externals it would suck :)
01:06.59Tekkubthen they can crash it all they want *grin*
01:07.08Tekkubwhy az?
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01:07.16Tekkubbecause you'd have to install a few libs?
01:07.26Wobinwhee google groups
01:07.40Azurewrathnope, would be even better because of lesser onLoad mem
01:07.43Tekkubthose externals take the update process and increase it exponentially
01:08.17Azurewrathbut i believe standalone libs break the whole Ace2-thing in end-user means
01:08.20ckknighthey all, back
01:08.26Azurewrathhi ckknight
01:08.27Tekkubwhat was 5 updates is suddenly 40 if each mod has 7 externals
01:08.29eternally777and by "exponentially" he means "in an exponential manner"
01:08.50TekkubSVN is not intended for "end users" though
01:09.04Wobinhm
01:09.07Arrowmasteri started using standalones because they seemed to be better overall for testing
01:09.14Azurewratha public download-svn-mirror would be Tekkub ;)
01:09.26Tekkubno it wouldn't :P
01:09.32WobinI can't think of any way that we could conceivably limit the externals without making it a whole lot more complex
01:09.35Wobin=\
01:09.40Tekkubposting official releases to WoWI is end users
01:09.54Azurewrathmhm ok.. you win :p
01:09.58Tekkubpointing people to the SVN for betas... well that isn't exactly endusers
01:10.19Arrowmaster"end users" are the people that just install mods and use them but have no clue how they work, "power users" would be the people wanting an svn mirror to update from
01:10.20Tekkubzips, maybe.. installing dev software just to be able to download? definatly not end users
01:10.57Tekkubyea, end users are the ones that bitch about beta software that has bugs :)
01:11.16Kaeltensomeone needs to write an app that interfaces with our file directories to autoupdate stuff
01:11.38WobinActually I think the majority of our userbase is pretty good about reporting bugs and not being shitty about it
01:11.44Tekkubkael, the power people like of SVN Updates is that it runs off diffs, so they can change files and not lose it on every update
01:11.57TekkubWob, yea, cause we drive off the others
01:12.03WobinYou should have seen the email we got at work
01:12.05Tekkuband they call us "elitist" :)
01:12.41Wobin"Dear sir. My son uses Matheletics, and we found one question that was incorrect. If you send us two free movie tickets, I will only say -good- things to my friends about your product."
01:12.54AzurewrathWobin: That is because my guildies bitch at me when some mod i packaged for them is broken ;)
01:13.04Azurewrathyou do not want me to point them here ;)
01:13.23Tekkubadvice: don't package shit for people, force em to learn how to take care of themselves :)
01:13.40Azurewrathi've given up on that..
01:13.40Tekkubif they can't keep up... /gkick!
01:13.55TekkubNO PURPLE FOR YOU!!
01:13.59Azurewrathlol
01:14.07WobinI actually want to send him two movie ticket stubs. "Dear sir, thank you for your note about the mistake. Here are two tickets we used to see DOA. It was a really good movie."
01:14.14Azurewrathupdate your BigWigs or i'll disenchant it! NoW!
01:14.37Tekkubhrm... that could actually work....
01:14.53Tekkub"DKP bids will be checked against you mod version"
01:15.07Tekkub"If you are out of date, you will lose your bid automatically"
01:15.30Tekkubmore guilds need to implement that
01:15.39Azurewrathbut hey, packaging actually works.. got 36/40 to use BigWigs 10900 a few days ago :)
01:15.47Azurewrathhehe
01:15.54Tekkubyou're expected to show up with repaired gear and full ammo/reagents... why not tack on updated mods
01:15.56ckknighthehe, nice, Tekkub
01:16.45Arrowmastermost the people in my guild that actually do use bigwigs now are running something in the 8000 range
01:18.34Arrowmasterwe require people to have an up to date version of ctraid (or something that says its the most recent version of ctraid =) ) but bigwigs isnt a required mod (yet)
01:18.39eternally777What's the latest version of BW?
01:19.02Azurewrath10987 or something
01:19.07Arrowmasterive got 10900
01:20.59eternally777I've got 10799 :-(
01:21.30Kebinusanrabbit made some changes last night before the svn went down again
01:21.48Arrowmasteri swear ive never seen a green number in the bw version query results
01:21.58AzurewrathArrowmaster: dito
01:21.59ckknighthttp://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/09/06/savant.genius/index.html
01:22.11Azurewrathbut all numbers in white was fine
01:22.38Wobin(re the SVN) Rasapian: Well this totally blows now. good thing I quit wow before this happened.
01:22.42Wobin*facepalm*
01:22.49Wobinentitlement much? =P
01:22.59ckknighthrm
01:23.21ckknightokay, I gotta go drop a class :-P
01:23.26ckknightcya all later
01:23.33Azurewrathbye
01:23.36Arrowmasteri rarely see white numbers
01:24.03Azurewrathwell, that was the one time everyone updated to 10900
01:25.05Arrowmasteranybody have a suggestion for something to track raid lock timers? i ended up removing groupcalender because of a constant 10KiB/s increasing memory rate its onupdate was causing
01:26.17Azurewrathisn't there a raidtimer somewhere on the blizz page?
01:27.52Arrowmastertheir page is laggy though
01:28.02Arrowmasterit loads slow and i like ingame stuff
01:28.58Kebinusanjust copy the page source and rehost it
01:29.25Azurewrathanyone got HostelBar r10905?
01:30.12Wobinauthorisation failed =(
01:30.37hyperChipmunkWobin: mathletics?  how do you sleep at night
01:30.52Wobinwww.mathletics.com.au
01:31.16Wobinnear half a billion correct answers can't be wrong!
01:32.36WobinAnd the very fact that we have students online playing on the weekend... =)
01:33.11hyperChipmunkyou know there's only one 'e' in athletics
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01:33.37Wobinyes.
01:33.39hyperChipmunkwait wtf
01:33.56hyperChipmunkthe site has it right
01:34.05hyperChipmunkbut the URL is wrong
01:34.12Wobin?
01:34.16hyperChipmunkah
01:34.20hyperChipmunkclever
01:34.38Wobinyes... we also have a product called 'Spellodrome' for these instances =)
01:34.46hyperChipmunkmathEletics is incorrect, but the URL ...haha
01:35.03WobinIf you're dealing with schoolkids, you have to cover all bases =)
01:35.31hyperChipmunkor you
01:35.35hyperChipmunk21:30 < Wobin> www.mathletics.com.au
01:35.43hyperChipmunkoh wait
01:35.52WobinThe other was from an email
01:35.56hyperChipmunkn/m you got it right
01:35.58Wobinhehe
01:36.01hyperChipmunkwhat was I reading
01:36.09hyperChipmunkoh
01:36.11Wobin"Dear sir. My son uses Matheletics, and we found one question that was incorrect. If you send us two free movie tickets, I will only say -good- things to my friends about your product."
01:36.14hyperChipmunk21:12 < Wobin> "Dear sir. My son uses Matheletics, and we found one question that was incorrect. If you send us two free movie tickets, I will only say -good- things to my
01:36.18hyperChipmunkyea
01:36.53hyperChipmunkI guess the lesson is ppl are dumb
01:36.58WobinI don't correct the spelling of idiots who try to blackmail a math edutainment site =P
01:37.50hyperChipmunkrofl
01:38.47kergothfishping rock
01:38.47kergoths
01:39.13hyperChipmunklooks pretty neat, though; is that you on the frontpage?
01:39.29Wobinhehe, to be honest, no one in the office knows who the hell she is =)
01:39.36WobinSome random clipart girl
01:39.44hyperChipmunkhaha
01:40.12hyperChipmunkshe looks like she's having fun with math
01:40.20Wobin=)
01:40.28WobinActually it's kinda fun =)
01:40.35WobinYou get to play against other students
01:41.21Industriali wanna!
01:41.23Industrial:p
01:42.03hyperChipmunkI'd play in the remedial students' bracket and pwn all teh n00bz
01:42.22kergothhm. sprocket is pretty cool, but i cant tell if itll actually be useful, or if its just a novelty
01:42.24hyperChipmunkthat would be awesome
01:42.40Wobinu:jl9906 p:flies62
01:42.59eternally777~seen kaelten
01:43.04purlkaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 7m 11s) #wowace (1h 7m 11s). Has said a total of 101 messages. Is idling for 31m 48s, last said: 'someone needs to write an app that interfaces with our file directories to autoupdate stuff'.
01:43.34hyperChipmunkO_o
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01:45.27ckknighthey all
01:45.33eternally777Is calling an item tooltip an excruciating process for WoW?
01:45.35XuerianDCdHeya.
01:45.36eternally777Hey ckk
01:45.36eternally777wb
01:45.52ckknighteternally777, not horribly, helps if you have Gratuity
01:46.17eternally777Can you show the gratuity tooltip?
01:46.21hyperChipmunk=( teh buttons aren't rendering tekt on them
01:46.26hyperChipmunktext*
01:46.37Wobinreally?
01:46.42WobinWhat version of flash have you?
01:46.47Wobin(and where?_
01:46.50hyperChipmunklinux 7
01:47.07hyperChipmunkit's not the first time I've seen that
01:47.33eternally777I ask because whenever I mouse over an item in OneBag, my increasing memory rate increases up to 50-60 kiB/s
01:47.57Industrialyeap onebag generates quite alot of kiB/s when opened
01:48.20Industrialtry opening and closing it a few times in a row
01:48.21IndustrialGC!
01:48.22Industrial;p
01:48.23Wobindo you have kci?
01:48.27Wobinor stopthelag?
01:48.28Industrialno
01:48.37eternally777stopthelag?
01:48.38Tekkub"Tail only comes off with the aid of sharp things" heh
01:49.02Tekkubfound some really neat tattoos :)
01:49.12hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/mathflash.png
01:49.18Wobinit reduces tooltip updates due to WoW frantically updating cooldowns when unnecessary
01:49.53WobinhyperChipmunk: wow odd =\
01:50.13eternally777This will fix SVN imo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833342001
01:50.19hyperChipmunkgood thing there's that 'something easier' though
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01:50.36Industrialhey how did you log in?
01:50.40hyperChipmunkcuz I don't think I'd ever get that one!
01:50.41Industrialcan you just make an account?
01:51.07hyperChipmunkwob posted a un/pw
01:51.18Industrialoh
01:51.26Wobinhuh, I'd go see if you can get a more recent version of flashplayer, then Hyper
01:52.40Wobinhm 7 is more recent =(
01:52.52Wobinhttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux&P3_Browser_Version=Netscape4
01:52.55Wobiner most
01:52.58hyperChipmunkthat's all you get for linux
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01:53.14hyperChipmunkuntil next year
01:53.20Wobindodgy
01:53.47hyperChipmunkyou clearly missed my flash rant in here a few days ago
01:54.11WobinAye.
01:54.16WobinIt must have been a doozy
01:54.23Wobinor maybe "Rar Flash. Rar"
01:54.51hyperChipmunkI hate flash
01:55.35WobinI don't mind it so much since I have to work with it, and it's the simplest progam to use when dealing with children and parents and schools...
01:55.42WobinBut the IDE sucks monkeyballs
01:56.02Wobinthe pageup and pagedown amounts don't even match
01:56.08Wobinso I get lost each time I page
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01:57.11hyperChipmunklol
01:57.35hyperChipmunkI just hate the whole concept
01:58.25hyperChipmunkit seems we dodged a web full of java applets only to find ourself with the equivalent with flash
01:58.36ckknightsorta.
01:58.49ckknightflash focused more on graphics, java focused more on code
01:58.56XuerianDCdWell, a lot of flash is done horribly, I'll admit, but then some damn cool shit has been pulled off with it too, and it can often tastefully integrate into pges.
01:59.07XuerianDCds/pges/pages
01:59.12XuerianDCd>_>
01:59.24hyperChipmunkI actually wouldn't mind if it integrated
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01:59.31ckknightWobin, what flash were you talking about?
01:59.34hyperChipmunkso much
01:59.43ckknighthey Mr. Dew
01:59.44Wobinckknight: where I work
01:59.47Wobinwww.mathletics.com.au
01:59.49Nightdewgood eve
01:59.57hyperChipmunkI'd still mind, cuz it's borked for me =)
01:59.59Nightdewoh sweet svn is back up
02:00.22ckknightI want a mac :-P
02:00.28Industrial--^
02:01.04Zieglersoo.. this may be the most stupid question you guys have ever gotten, but is there perhaps a way to where a user could implement all of their ace2 plugins in such a manner as to be able to bulk-update using a cvs/svn checkout, rather than managing each & every one?
02:01.24ckknightZiegler, users shouldn't use SVN
02:01.28ckknightend-users, at least
02:01.32ckknightdevs should use SVN
02:01.37ckknightSVN is not a deployment tool
02:01.39Zieglerwell, the web front-end to it
02:01.40ckknightit's a development tool
02:01.48AzurewrathNightdew: uhm.. nope?
02:01.53Zieglerthough I agree, but is there a better way to get things?
02:02.05ckknightZiegler, when people release to wowi
02:02.06Tekkubfunny how everyone's going thru withdrawls without our SVN eh?
02:02.13Zieglermeh
02:02.30Zieglerthen you have to navigate wowi and download all of 30 addons individually
02:02.33Zieglerbad mojo
02:02.34ckknightWobin, how can I compete in the Mathletics?
02:02.42Tekkubyou're like... well everyone else on tuesday morns
02:02.44hyperChipmunkbut hehe
02:02.47Wobinu:jl9906 p:flies62
02:03.08Tekkubreally wob?
02:03.15SH|ShabadorAnyone know if the zipping script will be working soon? (Or public access to the SVN). Want to test out Sprocket. :p
02:03.19ckknightseems like a cool idea, btw.
02:03.22Tekkub*checks wob's bank acct
02:03.30WobinTekkub: It's for the site =P
02:03.34WobinNot a mispaste =P
02:03.35Zieglerckk: the wowace website itself points you to svn, so I kinda figured that was "expected"
02:03.44ckknighthrm.
02:03.44Tekkubgrab the sproc on the zip page, it does work
02:03.47ckknightit probably shouldn't.
02:03.49Zieglersvn.wowace.com/files
02:04.04Tekkuband it says "Betas" there
02:04.07Zieglerand most of the forum posts direct you there too
02:04.08Zieglerwell yes
02:04.11Wobinwe've kinda shot ourselves in the foot with the big USE SVN DEMMIT push at the beginning
02:04.12ckknighthell, I gotta go to class
02:04.15ZieglerI expect most every mod I use to be in beta
02:04.16SH|ShabadorAh, ok. No horrible bugs that will kill my grandma and her dog if I use it?
02:04.18ckknightcya all later.
02:04.22Zieglersince ace2 is still quite heavily in dev
02:04.22XuerianHave fun, Ck =P
02:04.31Zieglerand I can happily fix most bugs I encounter on my own
02:04.35Tekkubace2's basicaly done
02:04.44Zieglerwell, the addons aren't :D
02:04.52Tekkubaddons never are...
02:05.18XuerianDevelopment or not, what's the beef with export access to the svn by the moderately-experienced users? :P
02:05.24Tekkubbut yea, anyway, if you went to that page you linked you'd see that, tho it has "svn" in the url, it is not in fact an SVN repo :)
02:05.43Tekkubthe "beef" is that it's caused too much load on the server
02:05.44ZieglerI feel like i'm refresh spamming waiting for perfectraid 2 and oRA2
02:05.50Zieglerwell
02:05.54Tekkubhence why we started the push to the zips
02:06.02Zieglersome people's posts and web entries point directly to the SVN branches
02:06.07XuerianAhh, well that does make sense =)
02:06.09Tekkuband then, well, shit hit the fan as you can see
02:06.24Tekkubthis is what, day 4 of SVN troubles?
02:06.44Tekkubso it's to the point of, we need to fix it
02:06.47XuerianHaven't been counting, only twitching :P
02:06.51Zieglerwould it be crazy to suggest mirroring svn export?
02:07.07Tekkubwe're considering a download mirror repo, but I don't know what exactly will happen there
02:07.34Tekkubonce the main repo is back and stable we'll get the zip script done
02:07.38Zieglermaybe a collaboration with wowi
02:07.55Zieglersince they seem to love you folks
02:08.09Wobinomg http://community.livejournal.com/wtf_inc/3349488.html
02:08.13Tekkubwe'd so love for tags to automatically pop up on WoWI
02:08.26Wobinone one hand, I'd love to have that vocal range
02:08.31Wobinon the other... dear god...
02:08.46Tekkubkael said he's discussing stuff with dolby on our options with the mirror and whatnot
02:08.52Zieglerso basically, script based auto-updating of addons would be frowned upon :D
02:09.04Tekkubno
02:09.13Tekkubthe issue isn't bandwidth
02:09.23Zieglerwell right
02:09.32Tekkubthe issue is load, SVN checkouts/updates are more expensive than a simple zip download
02:09.51Zieglerthe problem with the zip download is there's no consistent name
02:09.53Zieglerso you can't really do it
02:10.01Tekkubplus a few people are tinkering with scripts to update off the zips automatically
02:10.13Tekkubsure ya can
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02:10.16Tekkubit's consistant
02:10.16Zieglerat least not without unnecessary overhead
02:10.21Tekkubmodname-revision
02:10.30Zieglerright, but you have to query the list for revision
02:10.33XuerianWell, the Zip setup was excellent. Would I be able to offer mirroring/caching of the zips or something like that?
02:10.39Tekkubbut the overhead of figgering out what's what is on the client side
02:11.03Zieglerwas thinking if the latest revision always had a symlink sans revision
02:11.09Ziegleryou could do it without the additional query
02:11.13TekkubI don't think we need a mirror for the zips... notice thru all this they've stayed there
02:11.20Tekkubthey just havn't been updated :)
02:11.53Tekkubclad could prolly do that zie
02:12.01Tekkub... after we fix the SVN :)
02:12.11Tekkubpriority is get it back up and stay up
02:12.17Zieglerwhat's dying with it?
02:12.22Tekkubthen we'll figger out mirrors or whatever
02:12.22Zieglerjust out of curiosity
02:12.43TekkubI don't know exactly, clad's the one to ask there
02:12.53Ziegleri've never noticed our SVN systems to run with any real load.. kinda surprising, then again, dunno what kind of system specs we're talking :D
02:12.57Zieglercould be on a 300mhz dell workstation
02:13.03Tekkubhe did say that we're using old apache and SVN server that's part of the issue
02:13.10XuerianWell, I've got a asston of space and nothing to do with it, so if there's anything I can do to help with the load, I can try.
02:13.26Tekkuband how much traffic does your SVN get? :)
02:13.39Zieglerbout 500 developers
02:13.39Tekkub... and how many millions of externals...
02:14.26Zieglerthat may be the difference -- though I thought the comparison logic was done on the client side
02:14.56hyperChipmunkooh, you can tab your google homepage now
02:15.03Tekkubtab?
02:15.16hyperChipmunkadd different tabs
02:15.22Tekkubeeeenteresting
02:15.57hyperChipmunkthat's delicious
02:16.50Zieglertekkub: our svn servers are also HP DL585s though, so it may well not be a fair comparison
02:17.14Ziegleri'm guessing the wowace are just a private entity's
02:17.18TekkubI have no clue the details of our hosting
02:17.30Tekkubyou'd have to ask kael or dolby on that, or maybe cair
02:17.42Tekkubace is hosted by WoWI
02:17.49Ziegleroh
02:17.59Tekkubas is CT and some others
02:18.03Ziegleroh
02:18.03Zieglerfunny
02:18.05Zieglerwe host them
02:18.07Zieglernevermind :}
02:18.29TekkubCT, ace, wow dev network, wow ui designer
02:18.41Ziegleryeah, looks like they're one of our subscribers in NY
02:19.42Zieglerhad never looked before, wonder what their name is
02:20.23Tekkub:)
02:21.03Zieglerwonder if it's just network..
02:21.34GwieFhi.. I have a quick question :)
02:21.42hyperChipmunkfalse
02:21.48GwieFis there a way to get around the instancing of libraries in ace2 when I need something impossible in a Library (Candybars) but only a a couple of lines different?. Is the best I can do just copy and rename the library for my own mods use and / or try and get the feature in the lib?
02:21.56hyperChipmunk^---quick answer
02:22.15Tekkubuh
02:22.16Zieglertry putting it in your root addons folder and prefacing it with a !
02:22.21Tekkubtry to get the feature added
02:22.22Zieglerbut ymmv
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02:23.04GwieFok then ty
02:23.29Zieglerwhat tek said is a much better idea though, so ignore me :D
02:23.30Tekkubbetter advice: add the feature and provide a diff file
02:23.45Tekkubauthors love diff files
02:23.57Tekkubunless you butcher their code, then they hate you
02:24.28ZieglerI sent a diff file to a webmaster@ address once when I went to the page and had a bunch of code spew out at me under all the markup
02:24.30Zieglerthey didn't love it
02:24.58Tekkubheh
02:25.07hyperChipmunktheir own fault
02:25.20hyperChipmunkthey should try before they patch
02:25.21ZieglerI agree, which is why I gave them a fix :D
02:26.41GwieFwhat I want is the abilty to pass a function for it to use for the value the bars have so I can have a logarithmic based cooldown bars. his base code just uses the time.. think thats a sensible chance or am I gonna get ignored?
02:27.13Tekkubhrm... well the SVN is back up to 11003, the same place it was when clad brought it back up last night
02:27.46Tekkublog... interesting idea
02:28.27GwieFthe mod I've made uses the log(time^3) for both the bar length and the speed the value moves down it
02:28.42Tekkubwe've got "counter bars" that you would manually update on the list already... could be done manually thru that if/when it gets put in
02:29.06GwieFso a longer cooldown = a longer bar.. but if the cooldown spot is at the same point they will finish at the same time
02:29.19hyperChipmunkthat's something I bet you could get implemented
02:29.39GwieFok I'll make up a diff file then :)
02:29.41Tekkubthat's a really neat idea
02:29.46hyperChipmunkit is
02:30.02Tekkubespecially for BigWigs where there's usually an enrage bar and other short bars
02:30.05GwieFI've got a working version.. but its just proof of concept
02:30.13GwieFie nasty
02:30.49Tekkubyou know, we should break the SVN more often, we get more people in the channel here
02:31.16Industrialnasty.. dirty.. sex.. ok bedtime
02:31.20Industrialnn
02:32.21ZieglerI actually had no idea SVN was broken :(
02:32.28ZieglerI just came to avoid duplicating effort
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02:32.45Tekkubheh
02:33.19Tekkubmy cat's a tard
02:33.45hyperChipmunkmost are
02:34.02TekkubI look over, he meows half a meow, stops with mouth wide open, stands up and streatches, yawns and finishes the meow all at once
02:34.19Tekkubthen acts like he's gonna puke
02:34.28Ziegleroh just you wait
02:34.31Zieglerthe hairball is coming
02:35.00Tekkubit's a perpetual hairball, he's been working on it for years but has never coughed it up
02:35.39Zieglerso when are you guys going to convince the x-perl guy to come over to the dark side?
02:36.39hyperChipmunkthe who guy?
02:36.47Zieglerx-perl unit frames
02:36.55Zieglerit's like the only non-ace mod I have left
02:37.05Zieglerwell, that and atlas
02:37.08hyperChipmunkwhen he makes something I've heard of
02:37.16Ziegleryou should check it out
02:37.25Zieglerit's an absolutely fantastic update to the perl unit frames
02:37.29Zieglerand by far the best i've used
02:38.36hyperChipmunkI've always held that unit frames are too personal-taste to matter who uses what
02:39.00Zieglertrue
02:39.06Zieglerbut as far as functionality they are excellent
02:39.08hyperChipmunkeverybody likes what they vike
02:40.04hyperChipmunkno matter what unit frame mod I use, I'll end up hacking it into something totally different anyway
02:40.14Zieglerwhich do you use, out of curiosity?
02:40.28hyperChipmunkso I just started with oUF2 and did just that
02:40.37ZieglerI use praid for raid frames, then xperl for player/party/MT
02:41.16hyperChipmunkpraid, obviously...but the oUF 2 branch for the other stuff
02:41.27Zieglerah ha
02:41.40Zieglerdoes oUF have an MT/RT frame?
02:42.20Zieglermy UI at present in a raid looks similar to http://dh.rfc805.net/Crap/ziegUI5.jpg
02:42.29Zieglerthough i'm never satisfied, so it changes a bit daily
02:42.33hyperChipmunkdunno what those are, but if it doesn't, it's literally a matter of 5 lines to add anything
02:42.42Zieglermain tanks (CT/oRA2)
02:42.47Ziegleror raid targets if you prefer
02:44.44dreyruugrsvn auth still down?
02:57.56Neebler40% durability in MC? oh my
02:58.02Zieglershh
02:58.02Ziegler:D
02:58.18Ziegleri actually just forgot to repair
02:58.20ZieglerI went in at 40%
02:58.42Neeblerhey whats with the "mana" I always see next to healthbars in perfectraid
02:58.43Zieglerjust don't tell my GL
02:58.48Zieglermeans low mana
02:58.48NeeblerI've never tryed that addon out
02:58.53Neebleroh
02:58.56Zieglerironically
02:58.58Zieglerthere's a bug
02:59.21Zieglerah, it's not present on that one
02:59.31Zieglerbut for some reason all my warriors will randomly have the mana tag pop up
02:59.32Zieglerit's quite funny
02:59.56Neeblermah UI: http://neebler.tetro.net/bigwigs.jpg
03:00.15Zieglerer
03:00.15Zieglerwhoa
03:00.16Zieglerheh
03:00.24Zieglervery eyecandy!
03:02.11KebinusanNeebler, I really like your ui
03:02.17Kebinusanwhat unit frames are those
03:02.30Zieglernon-existent?
03:02.33Neeblererr. the ones I built into my UI
03:02.50Kebinusanheh
03:02.51hyperChipmunkKaelten: you ever gonna get my bags lined up correctly?
03:02.53NeeblerI like having all my info in one place.
03:03.17Neeblerlook harder :P
03:03.30Zieglertalking about the player/target frames?
03:03.44Kebinusanlooks pretty nice
03:03.49Zieglerlooks very nice
03:03.58Neeblerperhaps the unitframes are more visable in this screenshot: http://neebler.tetro.net/aguf.jpg
03:04.17Zieglerahh
03:04.18Ziegleryes they are
03:09.06FISKER_Qsome of you should find out what happens if you got more than one epic mount with the new changes
03:09.09FISKER_Qi want my money back >*
03:09.10FISKER_Q:(
03:09.13Ziegleronly thing I could really dislike about that is the real estate that the player/target takes up, but quite nice
03:09.24Zieglerwhat mod is providing that debuff timer?
03:11.08FISKER_Qwould any of you be 1337 enough for that?
03:11.27FISKER_QTo go on the PTR forums and ask if there's anyway to exchange current extra mounts for money
03:11.32GalkaThis sprocket addon is redamndiculous.
03:11.32FISKER_Qcause i got 3 epic mounts :(
03:12.03GalkaIf you ever wanted to instill awe in your guildmates, recommend Sprocket.  I dont have the patience to learn how to  config it yet though but its still glorious.
03:12.13Tekkubwheeeeeee
03:12.21FISKER_Qwheeeeee?
03:12.30FISKER_Qwhat about wiiiiii?
03:13.28Tekkubno
03:13.46FISKER_Qoh :(
03:14.00FISKER_Qwanna ask on the PTRs if people with more than one epic mount can get some of the money back?
03:14.14Tekkubwon't happen
03:14.38FISKER_Qit should :(
03:14.46Tekkubwonder if they'll up the drop rate of the rarer mounts now that you don't get a free epic out of it
03:14.49GalkaIs anyone using Oskin here?
03:14.52GalkaoSkin*
03:14.57FISKER_Qyeah
03:15.08GalkaDo you know how to skin the viewport to have the oSkin texture?
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03:16.03FISKER_Qwell you can maybe use /run oSkin:applySkin()
03:16.16FISKER_Qyou just need the framename inside the function
03:22.46GalkaThanks for the response.  Was attempting a few things but they turned up short.
03:22.57GalkaDidnt get it to work but its no big
03:26.55GalkaAm I going crazy or does Blizzard's Hide Zone Objective Tracker toggle in Interface options broken such that the zone objective tracker doesnt remain hidden on reloads?
03:27.04FISKER_Qbah
03:27.11FISKER_Qlame 99g buyout scammers
03:27.20FISKER_Qthey always set their bid to 1s and 99g buyout
03:27.34gnorlishi'm sure it's just a mistype
03:27.36FISKER_Qand of course they cancel when they realize their auction is selling for 20s but is worth 10g
03:27.38gnorlishover and over and over and over
03:27.39FISKER_Q:D
03:28.08gnorlishsend some vicious phone spiders their way
03:28.46FISKER_Qyeah
03:28.50FISKER_Qgood idea
03:29.02FISKER_Qi love ah by night
03:29.09FISKER_Qrunecloth up for 1.2g
03:34.00FISKER_Qbtw i justs preordered defcon
03:34.06FISKER_Qso now i'm more 1337 than industrial
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03:46.15kergothso what are the new mount changes people are talking about?
03:46.41FISKER_Qriding skill costs 90g for 75/150(normal mounts) and 900g for 150/150(epic mounts)
03:46.47FISKER_QThe mounts now cost 10g and 100g
03:46.54FISKER_Q10g for normal, 100g for epic
03:47.04kergothshit, i
03:47.14kergoththats interesting
03:47.15kergothhmm
03:49.38Arrowmastermy friend only has the pvp mounts which require 75 and transfered his character to the test realm and ended up with 150 mount skill
03:50.08Zieglerfisker: rumor has it the flying mounts will be 10000g
03:50.16Zieglerif that makes you feel any better :D
03:50.48Tekkubrumor has it that there will be more ways to obtain a flying mount than just buying or the ultra-rare drops...
03:50.55FISKER_Q^^
03:51.00Ziegleralso true
03:51.18FISKER_Qbesides you only need it for netherstorm
03:51.30Tekkubso the lazy bishies with great jobs can ebay one, the faction grinders can grind one...
03:51.38Tekkubthe lucky raids get a drop
03:51.43Tekkub:)
03:51.55Tekkubperhaps even a questable one
03:51.56hyperChipmunksomeone named Personperson just asked me for money =\
03:52.09FISKER_Qask him if he's a person
03:52.10hyperChipmunkdon't forget us PvPers
03:52.24Tekkuboh yea, prolly an honor point one
03:52.36Tekkubalthough that might be a rep grind type too
03:52.50Tekkubthe whole honor system change makes sense to me honestly
03:53.04Tekkubrewards should never degrade based on your gameplay habits
03:53.09hyperChipmunkwe'll be able to spend 10 months playing 16 hours a day in a competitive environment to get one
03:53.11FISKER_Qthey could make it for the arena system
03:53.21FISKER_Qthe arena system is somewhat like the current pvp system
03:53.24hyperChipmunkwoo hoo
03:54.18Tekkubif you don't PvP for 6 months and thus can't use that armor until you regain rank, then if you don't raid for 6 months (me) you should be able to wear your tier gear :P
03:54.35TekkubIronic, I just sided with PvP scumbags
03:55.28FISKER_Qpvp is somewhat fun when you can't raid
03:55.36Tekkubnope, it's not
03:55.44TekkubI can raid I just... ugh...
03:55.48Tekkub40mans blow
03:55.58Tekkuband I hate my raidleader
03:56.05FISKER_Qheh
03:56.11FISKER_Qwe can't raid because of lag
03:56.15Tekkubhe's foght me tooth and nail over BigWigs from day one
03:56.38Tekkubstill uses CTRA too, and things that everyone should use every feature of CTRA
03:56.46Tekkub*eyeroll*
03:56.58FISKER_Qlol
03:57.14FISKER_Qjust get the CTRA team to give up on bossmods :P
03:57.24gnorlishget cide to personally message him
03:57.34Zieglerwhat is there to fight over with bigwigs?
03:57.38Zieglernothing bad can come of it
03:57.42gnorlish"i'm structuring the next version of ctra after bw, you should use it"
03:58.17FISKER_QZiegler some people are just "SIEG HEIL MEIN ADDON IS THE ONE WE USE"
03:58.20FISKER_Qor something like that
03:58.26Zieglerahh
03:58.50ZieglerI was concerned about using oRA2 instead of CTRA since they're very strict about having RA up to date
03:58.53gnorlishafter every wipe we have in aq40 and naxx i say something like "you guys would suck less if you used bigwigs too"
03:58.58TekkubZieg, he thought it was a stupid pointless idea
03:59.00FISKER_QAtleast i 0wned my raidleader
03:59.02gnorlishi'm slowly getting converts
03:59.03Zieglerbut when I asked the GL he just said he didn't give a fsck as long as it reported debuffs/buffs/etc properly
03:59.08Tekkub"why fix something that isn't broken"
03:59.15FISKER_QFirst i was getting warned about using oRA and stuff
03:59.18FISKER_Qsaying i shouldn't use it
03:59.18Tekkubhe's the whole reason I wrote BossBlock first
03:59.21Zieglerand all the raiders have been quite happy with bigwigs
03:59.31FISKER_Q(I hadn't updated the version number so they thought i used an old version)
03:59.35FISKER_Qand then i told them i used ora
03:59.36TekkubI was sick of his spam, I didn't care about his RS warnings
03:59.40FISKER_Qand raidleader was ZOMG don't use it
03:59.51FISKER_QThen suddenly the raidleader lagged too much with ctra and went ora himself
03:59.54FISKER_Qso now i can too :P
04:00.04TekkubFisker, just lie :P
04:00.14Tekkub"I did update it... I have no idea....
04:00.18FISKER_Qheh
04:00.26Tekkub"what's the version?" *edits oRA file
04:00.31Tekkub*reloads*
04:00.41Tekkub"there check again!"
04:00.51FISKER_QThe funny stuff is that it's totally retarded to even have a raidassist addon as a rogue
04:00.54hyperChipmunkexactly
04:01.09Tekkubyup, or as a hunter
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04:01.22Tekkubal I ever wanted was the basic query responses
04:01.31FISKER_QThe only thing you'd ever use is the maintank frames where you could just use an addon which assists a specific person instead
04:01.32TekkubI don't give a fuck about tanks, never have
04:01.45Zieglerwell
04:01.49hyperChipmunknot since they made readycheck standard
04:01.49gnorlishgoddamn dps classes
04:01.50Tekkubor... a targets frame... :)
04:01.51Zieglerthe RA mod also reports your debuffs and such to the others
04:01.57Ziegleror no?
04:01.59Zieglerit used to
04:02.00Tekkubno zieg
04:02.08Tekkubdebuffs are in the API now
04:02.09FISKER_Qonly reports buff timers now
04:02.23Tekkubthere's no range limit since like patch 1.5 or whatever
04:02.26FISKER_Qwhich is pretty useless as well because of whispercast
04:04.54kergothwith XRS and perfecttargets, my rogue is content in raids
04:05.00hyperChipmunkwhat's the state of AceWardrobe atm?
04:05.08FISKER_QI use oRA2 and Bigwigs
04:05.11kergothas long as i can see the raid icons to know the kill order, i'm happy
04:05.31FISKER_QI also use XRS as a raid leader to check buffs
04:05.43FISKER_Qbut that's rare
04:06.18Tekkubyea, the icons help a ton with the tank bullshit
04:06.27Tekkubif your raid uses them
04:07.33hyperChipmunkso acewardrobe?
04:07.47FISKER_Qalways :P
04:11.32FISKER_Qyou killed the chat hyperChipmunk
04:14.40Wobinhyper has mastered the 'brickwall' method of changing the subject
04:15.04FISKER_Qyeah
04:15.24hyperChipmunkI'm fricking awesome
04:15.29hyperChipmunkback off
04:15.57WobinAcewardrobe still works, doens't it?
04:16.06FISKER_Qoverconfidence ftl
04:16.12hyperChipmunkhow is spell crit calculated? is it 2x of the normal damage (without talent mods) like range and melee attacks?
04:16.29FISKER_Q1,5 if i'm correct
04:16.38FISKER_Qalthough some classes can make it 2x
04:21.27Tekkubgack!
04:21.49Tekkubthis song has this background sound that sounds like the "person logged in" sound in GAIM
04:21.58Tekkubit's fucking with me, GAIM's not even open
04:22.41hyperChipmunklol I've heard that before...like 10 years ago
04:23.17hyperChipmunkare +dmg effects applied before or after the crit?
04:25.39FISKER_Qdunno but considered that they're taking base casttime and not talented/or otherwise improved casttime into consideration with +dmg it probably would before crit
04:25.39[Insom]Farnsbefore
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04:32.27Tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2240.0.html
04:32.37Tekkubtell me I'm not the only one that doesn't understand his post
04:33.43XuerianModMenuTuFo perhaps? It did always bork out on me for a good many of the menus (on mouseover for the ones it didn't like), then again, perhaps I was using a oddball version
04:34.15[Insom]FarnsTekkub: Update your sig since the SVN isn't being used anymore :p
04:34.26Tekkuberm... yea...
04:34.34Wobinhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4455470050974942996&q=wow
04:34.43Xuerianzips ftw ^_^
04:34.43WobinMuch better than Tom Jones
04:34.53WobinThe Pink Side of WoW
04:35.11FISKER_QWhy do all menus
04:35.14FISKER_Qsuddenly ace2
04:35.26FISKER_Qhe should make a song about it
04:45.06PProvostHas anyone written a reusable AceLibrary for bag manipulation?
04:45.24PProvostI was about to extract one from some code I've written but thought I would check first.
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04:47.04PProvostI was thinking about calling it Skycap. :)
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05:03.57Wobinbag manipulation?
05:03.59Wobinhowso?
05:04.15WobinSpecialEvents deals with bag_updates much better than the standard events
05:05.04kergotha lib that maintains a table of the inventory contents that you can poke at, updated by the sebags events, would be a useful thing
05:05.43Wobinthe getslot info function is pretyt fast though
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05:07.13Tekkubhehe, funny bug I'd never have noticed without Kennel
05:07.25Tekkubput your pet out
05:07.29Tekkubvisit bank
05:07.35Tekkubkennel swaps in a new pet
05:07.43Tekkubleave bank, your old pet is still out
05:18.22PProvostIs there any difference between AceLibrary("Something") and AceLibrary:GetInstance("Something")?
05:22.12Tekkubno
05:23.41TekkubPP, http://www.wowace.com/index.php/Talk:Lithe_Development_Team
05:23.43Tekkub:)
05:28.10Arrowmasterdamnit a lot of the trainer functions are missing info on wowwiki...
05:29.33PProvostTekkub, good call. I'll do that.
05:32.10PProvostDone.
05:33.17PProvostTekkub, is the API for Compost-2.0 on the wiki but not linked to or is it just not there?
05:33.25PProvostI can't seem to find it.
05:33.47PProvostBut I thought I found a link to it before the wiki reorg
05:33.49PProvost:D
06:00.09Gamefaqmhh svn is up again, can someone commit?
06:11.26XuerianAlright, if GetItemInfo returns a global constant, how do I retreive the value of the constant instead of the constant name? getglobal(GetItemInfo(xxxx)) doesn't seem to work, obviously something obvious is missing me x.x
06:12.01Xuerianer well
06:12.27Xueriannot exactly getglobal(GetItemInfo(xxxx)), but getglobal(variableIPutSlotValueFromGetItemInfointo) >_>
06:16.35Tekkubapi for 2.0 is basically the same
06:17.41kergothaguf isnt properly catching me leaving bear form for caster form
06:17.50kergothits still showing rage, yet if i target myself, i see my mana sa i should :P
06:17.56kergoths/sa /as /
06:18.01kergothag`:
06:20.10ThianaIs there a nicer way of doing: return string.upper(string.sub(name, 1, 1)) .. string.lower(string.sub(name, 2))
06:21.05Arrowmasterthats weird, self.db doesnt seem to exist in this addon i just started writing
06:21.36ThianaArrowmaster, Did you register a DB with self:RegisterDB("varname")
06:21.45Thiana(and have AceDB-2.0 in the mixins
06:21.52Arrowmasteryes i did
06:22.09Arrowmasterthats the weird part
06:22.13Thianackknight question then :)
06:26.05Arrowmasterwow that was an awesome bug
06:26.22Arrowmasteri misspelled OnInitialize
06:43.13Icerothsvn still down or did my access got revoked?
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06:48.01ckknighthey all
06:48.01ckknightback
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07:01.22Arrowmasterso thats cool, my code is doing exactly what its ment to be doing now but when i check the variables it shouldnt be working at all
07:01.59XuerianOne of those "How the hell does this thing I just wrote work, anyway" moments, huh?
07:03.16Arrowmasterone of those "ok the code is suppost to save these variables here and then use them again here, but when i check the variables they dont exist WTF" moments
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07:04.28Arrowmasterits really creapy because its doing exactly what i want it to do but it cant be
07:05.22VTJustinBblah, anyone mind fielding a newb parserlib q real quick?
07:05.53VTJustinBor is this more of a "sing the praises of ace2" room :P
07:06.19XuerianThis is more the "Pose your question and various sleep-zombies might or might not take noticed" room :P
07:06.26VTJustinBhehe
07:06.50Xuerians/noticed /notice /
07:07.00Xueriannever works for meeeeee /fetalposition
07:07.11VTJustinBhrm
07:07.11FISKER_Qthat's because you suck
07:07.16FISKER_Qs/suck/suck a lot/
07:07.17Xuerianhush you.
07:07.21FISKER_Q:D
07:07.42VTJustinBwell--
07:07.44FISKER_Q~comfort Xuerian
07:07.53purlThere, there, Xuerian.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
07:08.12XuerianGo on, Justin :P
07:08.14VTJustinBI'm defining an event like so: "parser:RegisterEvent("Tanked", "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_BUFF", "ParseCombat")"
07:08.31VTJustinBthen define the function in the callback:
07:08.42VTJustinB-- Parse Method
07:08.42VTJustinBfunction Tanked:ParseCombat(event, info)
07:08.42VTJustinBif info.type == "hit" then
07:08.42VTJustinBChatframe1:AddMessage( info.source .. " hit " .. info.victim .. " for " .. info.damount .. "damage!" )
07:08.42VTJustinBend
07:08.43VTJustinBend
07:08.48VTJustinBgd that's ugly in irc ><
07:08.50VTJustinBhaha
07:09.22FISKER_Qthey're not bleeding
07:09.30VTJustinBand when i go whack something, i get a "Interface\Addons\Tanked\Libs\ParserLib\ParserLib.lua:555: attempt to call field `func' ( a nill value ) "
07:09.39VTJustinBso i'm assuming it's not finding that callback function
07:09.42VTJustinBbut not quite sure why not
07:10.31Xuerianwhich line is 555, praytell?
07:10.38Xuerianoh.
07:10.42VTJustinBjust a reference to client.func
07:11.44grzesieqmorning
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07:12.17VTJustinBmorning
07:12.24Xuerian|Coma'morning, evening, and good luck with that Justin. No experience with Parserlib -.-
07:12.33VTJustinBd'oh, thanks though :P
07:12.34Laricello ppl
07:14.19nevcairielmorning
07:19.46Arrowmasterwell that was an interesting solution to my problem
07:20.00Arrowmasterself.db.char.filter.available = GetTrainerServiceTypeFilter("available") or 0
07:20.30Arrowmastermy variables kept deleting themselves
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07:25.53lacindasgreetings all
07:26.26grzesieqheh, just realised that I got rid of all ace1 addons
07:27.18FISKER_Qcan you use trial accounts for the forum?
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07:32.10VTJustinBso no one still up has much experience w/ parserlib? :P
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07:37.01RophyVTJustinB: need help?
07:37.27VTJustinBjust a little curious as to why i'm getting a nil reference to my callback
07:38.30nevcairielMikma: i optimzed FuBartender2 even more, you can now chose the Bartender profile AND configure the fubar plugin .. but since Bartender2 uses SVPC only, a profile does not make much sense.
07:38.30RophyVTJustinB: do you know about the 'self' arg things?
07:39.26VTJustinB@Rophy: continue this in a private message i just sent you :P
07:39.51Rophyyou sent me pm?
07:40.48Rophydidn't receive any message from you :\
07:41.08Rophyanyway, if your function is Tanked:ParseCombat(event, info), then you'll need to pass a function(event, info) self:ParseCombat(event, info) to ParserLib.
07:41.48Rophyso this is wrong: parser:RegisterEvent("Tanked", "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_BUFF", "ParseCombat")
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07:48.11VTJustinBrophy: that makes perfect sense, just wrap the function call in an anonymous function
07:48.31VTJustinBthanks, i tinkered w/ the syntax of the callback for a while to no avail--appreciate the help
07:48.47Rophy:)
07:48.51FISKER_Q1+1 = 2
07:49.05VTJustinB2 + 2 = 5
07:49.09FISKER_QWTF
07:49.15VTJustinBBBQ?
07:49.38FISKER_QYou have made yourself a powerful enemy
07:50.00VTJustinBfantastic
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07:50.43CodayusHmm
07:50.46CodayusThat was odd.
07:50.57CodayusHalfway through Razor...about a dozen legos ran over and pwned the controller.
07:51.11CodayusFor no apparent reason.
07:51.25CodayusNo volley...just...squish.
07:52.09VTJustinBdid he drop near the end?
07:52.27VTJustinBi think the controller shares some aggro w/ the stuffs, at least the drakonids
07:52.30VTJustinBbut that's weird :P
07:54.18FISKER_Qall aggro you do with razorgore is transfered to the orb controller if he doesn't regain control
07:54.38FISKER_QAlso all mobs are pathed to run into the orb controller and aggro him by range
07:55.38VTJustinBthe only weird thing we've seen recently is when we were learning Razuvious we leashed him and for some reason when we got back to start rezzing he walked up the ramp and did his yell animation at us
07:55.51VTJustinBbut didn't aggro, then just walked back down the ramp and continued yelling at his peep
07:55.52VTJustinBs
07:55.58WobinTekkub: ping!
07:56.53WobinHey Tekkub, in Teknicolor, is there any reason in the WHO_LIST_UPDATE scan that you use UnitName("target") instead of the 'name' grabbed from the who info?
08:04.50WobinMeh, never any bear when you need him =(
08:08.50MoonWolfwiggle your ass a bit and offer honey
08:08.58nevcairielstupid timezones :)
08:09.19FISKER_Qbtw
08:09.21FISKER_Qfunny stuff
08:09.33FISKER_Qa guildmate of mine bought a warrior with 6 elementium bars and 4 sulfuron ingots
08:10.23MoonWolfdid you kill him ?
08:11.01FISKER_Qnah
08:11.08FISKER_Qwe got it for our guildbank
08:13.15VTJustinBi don't think i'll ever get my thunderfury
08:13.25VTJustinBgotta love random loot
08:14.01VTJustinBonly ever had one binding drop in about 8 months
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08:14.41lacindasheh thats the only reason we still run mc on occassion, 2 people with 1 binding each lol
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08:15.30VTJustinBi don't think we've done MC in a month ><
08:15.57lacindasyah, we do it mebbe once a month if that, for alts and pray for bindings lol
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08:27.42Neebleroh bummer! I just found out AceWardrobe doesn't have profiles
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08:36.24[Ammo]hmm do I have to mail cladhaire again for SVN access? or is there a password update script somewhere? because it seems to have stopped working
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08:41.58nevcairielits locked.
08:42.18[Ammo]well it worked yesterday, it's just completely locked now?
08:42.30nevcairielit broke down yesterday again
08:42.34[Ammo]ouch
08:43.23nevcairielits reverted to 11003 .. newest cia rss i got was 11029
08:44.51nevcairieli wonder if tekkub minds if i use aceevent instead of metrognome in deuced combatantsfu
08:46.04nevcairielah whatever, i will use metrognome
08:48.46ckknight_nevcairiel, I recommend AceEvent
08:49.07ckknight_I added in proper debugging (if you enable it)
08:49.15Neronix`sleepNo wonder you would - You wrote it :P
08:49.21ckknight_and it is slightly more efficient than Metrognome
08:49.24nevcairielaceevent is a dep of AceDB anyway, so you would have both
08:50.02nevcairieldoes AceEvent stuff appear in tekSupport now?
08:50.24ckknight_not sure if Tek wrote that in yet
08:50.29ckknight_but the info is available now
08:50.43nevcairielthat sounds good
08:50.46ckknightthings have come to a near-standstill because of the SVN breakage
08:51.13nevcairielyeah :(
08:51.31[Ammo]ckknight: I think your debugging commit got lost
08:51.36ckknight...
08:51.39ckknightgoddammit
08:51.46nevcairielevery commit after 11003 is not on svn now
08:51.47ckknightwasn't hard to put in, mind you
08:51.50[Ammo]so better save a local copy
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08:51.54ckknightand I have a local copy
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09:23.02Kebinusanhmm swstats 2.0 beta
09:23.12Kebinusanhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2909-1-sw-stats.html
09:23.31nevcairielusing ace? :P
09:24.52Kebinusanlol no
09:25.46nevcairielsomehow i knew that
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09:32.20Mikmanevcairiel: changeable :D
09:32.45MikmaAzurewrath: well you can't always please everyone :)
09:46.49NeronixAnybody know of a good set of tweaked drivers for nvidia cards?
09:46.59NeronixZ-Tweaked's not been updated in months :(
09:50.03Mikmaomegadrivers.net
09:51.35NeronixThey haven't been updated in a year or so
09:51.40Neronix66.93 ¬.¬
09:53.36nevcairielngo has some
09:53.42nevcairielhttp://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=10
09:57.26Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4821-1-fubar-raretrackerfu.html
09:57.30Mikmaaddon for me ;)
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10:08.23Neronixnevcairiel: Thanks
10:08.34nevcairielnot sure how good they are tho
10:08.41nevcairielbut at least they update them
10:08.51Mikmamaaaaaaaneater
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10:16.42MikmaFtH|eagle: hi
10:16.46FtH|eaglehi
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10:16.50nevcairielhi
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10:24.04Mikmanevcairiel: with what addon?
10:24.42nevcairielrpgo-CharacterProfiler
10:24.46nevcairielwe have a guild roster
10:24.54nevcairielhttp://www.viribusunitis.net/roster/char.php?name=Nevcairiel&server=Antonidas
10:25.04Mikmaoh :P
10:25.13Mikmai didn't get it to work for some reason
10:25.20Mikmamust be because i suck
10:30.25nevcairielcould be
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10:34.44cladanyone have a stray legitimate commit they can do for me?
10:35.09cladMorning.
10:35.16nevcairielmorning
10:35.20nevcairieland sure.
10:35.54cladThanks.. trying to make sure authentication is back and working.. but i have access either way, so its tough to test without making a fake account and doing bogus commits =)
10:36.17nevcairielall changes since 11003 gone? or did you fix that?
10:36.35cladno, and I won't be able to fix that, they're lost.
10:36.45cladits 20 some odd commits, most of them being yours =(
10:37.13cladif you need a list of what commits they Are, with diffs.. you can get them at http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/
10:37.36nevcairieli have the cia rss in my outlook
10:37.47nevcairielthats enough :)
10:38.16cladwell the google group has a full diff for every commit, so you could literally reproduce the commits, except for new files.
10:38.23cladi'm just more interested that ANY commit works right now =)
10:38.53Neronixhttp://bin.4chan.org/w/src/1158179059514.jpg :O
10:39.05NeronixSexy and uber-res gundam wp
10:39.21nevcairielcommit seems to be working
10:39.25cladi get channel-leech.jpg
10:39.27nevcairielshould CIA-17 be working?
10:39.36cladhe will in a second
10:39.39cladgive me a moment please =)
10:39.43nevcairielsure
10:39.55MoonWolfclad*
10:39.58Mikmachannel-leech.jpg xD
10:40.32Neronixchannel-leech?
10:40.35cladthey should be working now, along with commit emails.
10:40.46cladhttp://zip.4chan.org/4channel-leech.png
10:41.29evlwhat's up with svn btw=
10:41.33FtH|eagleeasy fix to upload my changes to the svn again which were lost yesterday?
10:42.04nevcairielcopy your local copy, checkout the svn version, copy your local files over the checkout, commit
10:42.10Neronixhttp://neronix.net/1158179059514.jpg
10:42.30cladooh sexy..
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10:44.30Neronixhttp://neronix.net/1158179059514-1024x768.png
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10:44.42Neronixpre-resized in PS for you
10:45.13WorfNeronix: what's that? N811 in T4 set?
10:45.36CIA-1703nevcairiel * r11006 10sRaidFrames/ (libs/ sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFrames.toc sRaidFramesLocals.lua): sRaidFrames: re-added lost changes from yesterday
10:45.43NeronixWorf: It's a Gundam xD
10:46.07cladThanks nevcairiel
10:46.24nevcairielseems to be working
10:46.30nevcairielwhy did it crash again?
10:47.16Mikmanevcairiel: commit the fubartender2 :)
10:47.20cladThis time, it was because of a 2-day old trouble ticket askign the host to delete some files.  In the midst of waiting for them, I figured out how to setuid myself to the dhapache user (Which we aren't supposed to be able to do.. but I'm a tricksy hobbit) so I could delete the files, and get things resolved.
10:47.33nevcairiellol
10:47.43Mikmaclad: does the zipping work now
10:47.46cladI'm pushing them to get updated to a newer version of the APR, which resolves some of these file issues.
10:47.49cladMikma: Not in the least.
10:47.56FISKER_Qoh well
10:48.00FISKER_Qkeep up the good work
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10:48.30CIA-1703nevcairiel * r11007 10FuBartender2/: FuBartender2: creating addon dir
10:48.51Elkanogreetings
10:49.07cladif anyone wants to write it, they can feel free.. but i JUST got back from england, and I've already worked 48 hours this week, and I'm up for at least 70 total.. and I only worked Tues to Friday, plus now this weekend.
10:49.35nevcairielno worries, we will feed the trolls.
10:49.40Elkano???
10:49.48FISKER_Qwe get dinner now??
10:49.53punisher`awbah, stupid old macro
10:50.49Elkanobtw: is it possible to link items into battleground chat?
10:52.19FISKER_Q2  sec
10:52.40CIA-1703nevcairiel * r11008 10FuBartender2/ (FuBartender2.lua FuBartender2.toc libs/): FuBartender2: import
10:52.55Mikmanevcairiel: put the other changes in too, haven't got the time to download them yet
10:53.07nevcairielwhat other changes?
10:53.09Mikmai mean bt2 etc
10:53.18nevcairieli uped bt2
10:53.30Mikmaokiedokie
10:53.59FISKER_Qyou can link itemsi nto bg chat
10:54.01FISKER_Qinto*
10:54.14NeronixThe camera guy's whispering "Fuck, Bigwigs fucked again"
10:54.27nevcairiellol
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10:54.31NeronixAfter being killed by what appears to be a naga with the ashbringer O.o
10:54.42cladhaha =)
10:54.44nevcairiellol
10:54.48cladthat was a fun video
10:55.20nevcairielif i set svn:keywords Rev .. will Revision and the even longer version work as well?
10:56.34Mikmanevcairiel: do i need to change SVPC to SV ?
10:56.52nevcairielyou dont need to, but using profiles with SVPC is kinda pointless
10:56.53nevcairielsomehow
10:56.54nevcairiel:)
10:56.59Mikmamm
10:57.05Mikmaexternals are incorrect on bt2
10:57.13nevcairielhm
10:57.14nevcairielcould be
10:57.20Mikmapropably an old version?
10:57.28MikmaA    Bartender2/Libs/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua
10:57.32cladnevcairiel: Rev is just an alias for Revision, so yes.
10:57.36MikmaA    Bartender2/Libs/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua
10:57.41MikmaA    Bartender2/Libs/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua
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10:59.02CIA-1703mikma * r11009 10Bartender2/: Bartender2: externals updated
11:00.23CIA-1703ammo * r11010 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: BigWigs (CThun): please the whingers
11:01.18Elkanook, thx FISKER_Q. Now I can formulate my scenario wrt item links :)
11:01.18CIA-1703ammo * r11011 10PinPoint/ (Core.lua Display/WorldMap.lua): PinPoint: WorldMap module fleshing out
11:01.20jjungnickelmore rape whining? :)
11:01.35[Ammo]oh the rape i sstill there
11:01.45jjungnickelgood.
11:01.56[Ammo]just that some people are bloody euhm, dunno the english word
11:02.05steinowhiny?
11:02.07[Ammo]no
11:02.11jjungnickeldescribe.
11:02.14CIA-1703nevcairiel * r11012 10FuBar_CombatantsFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_CombatantsFu.toc libs/): FuBar_Combatants: Deuced and FBP2'd
11:02.21[Ammo]tight, narrowminded, hardcore christian etc
11:02.32[Ammo]afraid of sexual references
11:02.34[Ammo]etc.
11:02.39steinoblockheads?
11:02.49steino:P
11:03.05jjungnickeluptight :)
11:03.09[Ammo]yeah uptight
11:03.50CIA-1703mikma * r11013 10Bartender2/Bartender2.toc: Bartender2: SVPC -> SV. Yay for Ace2 profiles!
11:04.46nevcairielonly fun thing now, bartender2 will probably lose all the settings
11:04.47nevcairiel:D
11:04.55Mikmaaye ;D
11:05.12Mikma:D
11:05.16Elkanobtw: lib question: how to handle local variables/functions in a lib? if I define them as local inside the lua file, they will stay in memory if another instance is loaded, won't they?
11:05.44Mikmagotta make a forumpost now lol
11:06.15[Ammo]Elkano: I use lib.vars.*
11:06.22[Ammo]but I peeked that from Tekkub's stuff ;)
11:07.08[Ammo]anyway, time to continue building the nursery
11:07.08[Ammo]~
11:07.49Elkanowell, for local data variables I do the same but eg in GloryLib there are local functions
11:08.27NeeblerSelectionRing is such an underrated and underused good addon. What it can do is impressive for the ammount of memory it uses
11:08.43Neeblerok random statement done
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11:11.17Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1837.msg43471.html#msg43471
11:13.38MikmaOMFG!
11:13.46MikmaHoney roasted nuts
11:14.00Mikmathis is propably the best snack i have ever eat
11:15.53nevcairielthere reseted all my bt2 config and re-organized
11:15.57nevcairielits good now.
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11:18.08cladid: commit
11:18.21Neeblerslep
11:19.10evlsvn completely broken now?
11:19.18clador not at all.
11:19.29nevcairielclad "unbroke" it :)
11:19.41sbubrb, booting vista ;o
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11:20.04nevcairieli still want to test the vista rc1, but didnt find time yet
11:20.18nevcairieli even downloaded it already
11:20.21sbui just installed it yesterday ;o
11:20.43sbuok, reboot now *gone* ;o
11:22.42Mikmai just noticed that there ain't no dropshadow on agUF names
11:22.49Mikmathat makes them hard to read
11:25.38CIA-1703nevcairiel * r11014 10/branches/sRaidFrames/: sRF: removing branch, trunk is fine now :)
11:26.05evlI get some "cannto replace folder from within" stuff when updating
11:26.18nevcairieldelete, checkout again
11:26.22Mikmaaye
11:26.25Mikmathat's what i did too
11:30.32Elkanodiscuss pls: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29592
11:31.21Neronixevl: Means a mod got renamed/deleted
11:31.41cladhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=29073057&postId=290104155&sid=1#0
11:31.44cladelkano: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=29073057&postId=290104155&sid=1#0
11:32.00tumetomElkano you get  disconnecvted if you link an item that is INVALID
11:32.23FISKER_Qmailbox lag ftw
11:32.27tumetomPlayers from different servers should not be able to link invalid items, too
11:32.47nevcairielas far as i know, you cannot link items that are not valid on your own server to your server, but you can link them in the bg chat
11:33.39Elkanooh, cool, thx clad :)
11:34.44tumetominvaldid does not mean "not seen n your server"
11:36.05Elkanowhat does it mean then?
11:37.41FISKER_Qwell the best way to test this is to get one who complete the atiesh quest to link the staff in bg chat
11:37.50FISKER_Qthen one from another server should link to the guild chat
11:38.29FISKER_Qbtw clad you gonna get raped by the cm's
11:38.30FISKER_Qoh wait
11:38.34FISKER_Qisn't the EU forums
11:38.47FISKER_Qif it was you would
11:38.49tumetomElkano I think it's a matter of differences between your local Item cache and the servers Item db
11:38.51cladwe can address slouken every once in a while =)
11:39.09FISKER_Qof course you should be able to do that
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11:39.29FISKER_Qjust pointing out the nazi cm's on our forums which function merely as mods
11:39.33cladhehe
11:39.35tumetomand as far as the server(item databases) run on the same version, there should be no problem
11:40.07nevcairielyou probably can link all items, but getting a tooltip should disconnect you if the server has not seen that item
11:40.50FISKER_Qshouldn't do it
11:40.59FISKER_Qthen you could control the bg
11:41.00tumetomalready linking should disconnect. Not clicking on it
11:41.32nevcairielbut you can inspect other people in the bg and link those items.
11:41.34FISKER_Qyeah
11:41.36MikmaGngsk: are you doing the multiple-rows for bt2?
11:43.18tumetomdon't kow.. perhaps there is a "cross-server-itemSeenDB":-P
11:43.34FISKER_Qtry someone go in and create a tooltip for a legendary weapon
11:43.39FISKER_Qlike glaive of the defender
11:43.56FISKER_Qof course a legendary that is pretty much impossible to obtain :P
11:44.17FISKER_Qinfact if someone have some code for me i could check it now
11:45.15FISKER_Qanyone got a quick macro for making a tooltip for an itemid?
11:46.06Iceroth"The Druid stuff is looking particularly awesome though. I'd say personally, I'm most excited about the new core abilities and the Balance tree, though the new Feral and Restoration talents have tempted me enough to respec and play around. I think we're getting very close to revealing the information. Hang in there a little longer!"
11:46.17Icerothgief already >.<
11:46.23nevcairielagree
11:46.26nevcairielgive druid talents.
11:46.30nevcairielthats sound too good.
11:46.33FISKER_Qnevcairiel you must know it :P
11:48.00nevcairieldunno
11:50.39Elkano/script GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:22630:0:0:0")  <-- should tooltip one of the four Atieshs
11:51.19FISKER_Qyeah well that was a disconnect :P
11:51.25Iceroth"when the Burning Crusade launches, healing over time (HoTs) spells such as Rejuvenation and Renew will stack for every player casting them. For instance, if there are three priests in your group, a target could potentially receive three renews as one time."
11:51.34cladIceroth: I love that
11:51.39Icerothzomg at these changes
11:51.41nevcairielI do as well
11:51.52Iceroththe "more powerfull spell" crap is gone then
11:51.54FISKER_Qand they'll what up the bufflimit to like what 60-80?
11:51.55nevcairieldruid hots own as it is, with that changes .. :D
11:52.17nevcairielbut i dont want to see the fights then.
11:52.21nevcairielits going to be hard
11:52.23Icerothheh, imagine 4-6 rejuvs at mt :)
11:52.50nevcairiel~3000hp/3s is nice
11:52.53purlnevcairiel: okay
11:52.54nevcairiel;)
11:52.54cladhealing is going to become instant cast heavan.
11:52.55clads/van/ven/
11:53.07nevcairielwhat did i tell purl ?
11:53.08nevcairiel:D
11:53.09cladsomeone new hot's every 3 seconds.
11:53.14Mikmahmmh wtf
11:53.23MikmaBT2 seems to save scales even if it's not changed
11:53.29Mikmanot cool. will have to fix it later tomorrow
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11:53.56Icerothheh, too bad that you won't be able to stack your own hots though :)
11:54.08nevcairielclad: with swiftmend its already kinda instant-heaven for druids. i love that talent
11:54.24cladso true :P
11:55.11cladi play a priuest and a druid, so i enjoy it.
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11:55.38SH|ShabadorOops. Go, go misspressing XChat icon. :p
11:55.50nevcairieli couldnt focus on any alts, dunno why, just got boring after a while
11:56.04nevcairielso i run around with my druid all the time ;)
11:56.05Wobinoh well
11:56.07WobinBlademaster leggings
11:56.15Wobinon my first ubrs run as a rogue
11:57.27Icerothleveling my shadownoob but it's kinda boring.. i hope the druid talents are going to be as good as the priest ones so i can forget that char
11:58.48nevcairieli still need to decide what i spec for leveling to 70
11:59.04nevcairielor i just look for some warrior and heal him all the time :D
11:59.14SH|ShabadorAnyone know how the new SW_Stats beta is performance wise vs DamageMeters?
11:59.39WobinWell, Anduin Lothar is taking over DamageMeters, isnt he?
11:59.50cladalright, i'm off.
12:00.09SH|ShabadorHeh. I know there's some bad blood from you vs AL, but... :)
12:01.13WobinOh not really =)
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12:01.30WobinBad blood implies hatred etc
12:01.44WobinI just think he's an arse =)
12:01.48SH|ShabadorHehe
12:02.40SH|ShabadorYeah, but aside from the arse-thingy, is DM better performance-wise then SW beta? (I did read something about it getting more bloat)
12:02.57SH|ShabadorHave anyone tried the new beta in other words... :)
12:03.12SH|ShabadorGonna try it now, but don't have any raid to join. :p
12:03.26WobinNot as yet
12:04.05nevcairielany addon like SWS or DM sucks performance wise
12:04.11nevcairielsome more, some less, but all suck
12:04.56Kaeltenugt
12:05.14SH|ShabadorYes, but which are "ze suckiest"
12:05.39nevcairielmorning Kaelten
12:16.17Mikmanevcairiel: why does bt2 save scale even if it's not changed? :P
12:16.29nevcairielis it that bad?
12:16.51Mikmai don't wan't it to save any vars if it ain't changed
12:18.04NeronixIT shouldn't
12:18.05nevcairielyou dont provide a default scale in registerdefaults
12:18.11NeronixIf you add them to your defaults
12:18.14Neronixwhat nev said
12:18.17nevcairielnot for all bars, anyway
12:19.12Mikmastill it shouldn't save the vars if they ain't changed
12:19.16Mikmai have made it like that
12:19.39nevcairielyou dont provide a default value, how the hell should acedb whats changed and whats not ? :P
12:19.49nevcairiel+know
12:20.16Mikmanevcairiel: it shouldn't but it shouldn't even PUT the vars in acedb unless they are changed
12:20.34Mikmaevery check has if self.db.profile.something then this else that
12:21.47CIA-1703neronix * r11015 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2 - Added Scales to defaults declaration
12:21.58GngskWobin, you left a call to ace:print() in your ace2 branch, line 1176.
12:22.13MikmaNeronix: won't that now save them too?
12:22.13GngskWobin, er, MrPlow ace2 branch
12:22.27WobinCan you patch it?
12:22.31WobinI'm about to grab some food
12:22.39nevcairieldefault scale is 1, if you set the default to 1 in registerdefaults, it wont save unless its different to 1
12:22.39NeronixMikma: AceDB checks on logout/reload whether the current options differ from defaults
12:22.44Gngskyea
12:22.49Wobincool, thank you =)
12:22.53Neronixthen it will only save the ones that changed
12:23.01WobinTekkub: ping
12:23.12MikmaNeronix: and it saves them in SV no matter what?
12:23.28nevcairielwhere else would it save them?
12:23.30nevcairiel:)
12:23.32MikmaGAH!
12:23.36GngskWobin, you want me to just send you a patch or commit the change myself?
12:23.43WobinJust commit away =)
12:23.45Mikmai DON'T wan't them to be put in SV if the scale haven't been changed
12:23.47Gngskkk
12:23.48NeronixThey are only saveded if they are different from the defaults
12:23.56NeronixMikma: That's what happens!
12:24.02NeronixThat's what I fixed xD
12:24.04nevcairielit saves the Scale, "if not Scale = DefaultScale"
12:24.10WobinThank you =)
12:24.12MikmaNeronix: it worked before
12:24.21Mikmai dunno why it don't work now
12:24.24nevcairielby accident :)
12:25.05Mikmathe default sv should be something like 5 lines or so if nothing ain't changed
12:25.07CIA-1703neronix * r11016 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2 - Formatting aesthetics in defaults improved( Scale =1 --> Scale = 1,)
12:25.16Mikmait used to be that but i have no idea when it has been fooked up
12:25.36NeronixTell AceDB what the defaults should be
12:25.41Neronixand it'll handle everything itself
12:25.47Mikmadidn't have to do that before
12:25.51nevcairielpadding has the same issue btw
12:26.09Mikmamm damn
12:26.15Mikmawell i'll add the paddings in
12:26.49nevcairielWhats Extra?
12:27.13Mikmait has extra-sv's in :P
12:27.14Mikmanot scale
12:27.24Mikmalike "borders"
12:27.36Mikmaif self.db.profile.Extra.HideBorder then
12:27.47NeronixMikma: You don't need to do all the self.db.profile[bar] or 1 stuff if you tell AceDB what to do
12:28.01nevcairielextra only has this for me
12:28.03nevcairiel["Extra"] = {
12:28.03nevcairiel["Bar2DB-1"] = true,
12:28.03nevcairiel},
12:28.07nevcairielmeh, damn control chars
12:28.13nevcairielMikma: use spaces :D
12:28.24CIA-1703gngsk * r11017 10/branches/MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow - Replaced ace:print() with DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() in MrPlow:Chat()
12:28.31Mikmanevcairiel: newah, spaces suck ass :D
12:28.46MikmaNeronix: ok, will have to look at it tomorrow
12:29.12Wobincrap, crashed as I heard the 'whisper' tick noise
12:29.18Wobinlucky for me it saved in HeyFu =P
12:29.36MikmaNeronix: so how can u check them if i don't need em?
12:30.42NeronixWhat do you mean?
12:30.57Mikmawell you said i don't need to do the checks then
12:31.02Mikmawhat shall i put there?
12:31.44nevcairieljust the var
12:31.57nevcairielacedb will stuff the default value in there
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12:33.29CIA-1703uruloke * r11018 10ArcHUD2/ (28 files in 3 dirs):
12:33.29CIA-17ArcHUD2:
12:33.29CIA-17* Changed how revisions are updated
12:33.29CIA-17* Updated zhCN locale
12:33.35Mikmafunction Bartender:ButtonAlphaCheck()
12:33.59Mikmafor i=1,12 do _G["Bar1Button"..i]:SetAlpha(self.db.profile.Bar1.Alpha) end
12:34.00Mikmaend
12:34.02Mikmaright?
12:34.26nevcairielright
12:34.35nevcairielif you specify an Alpha default in the reg-defaults
12:34.48Mikmaok then
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12:34.59Mikmahi andreasg_ and andreasg
12:35.11nevcairielheh
12:36.32Wobinhm
12:36.36Wobintablestorage of chats
12:36.53Wobinoh uruloke is asian?
12:37.35WobinIn regards to HeyFu, I could concievable store all whispers for an unlimited amount of time...
12:37.56Wobinbut that kinda ends up rather large
12:37.58CIA-1703mikma * r11019 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: defaults
12:38.11NeronixIs HeyFu one of those whisper trackers?
12:38.12Mikmai hope they are correct :D
12:38.16WobinMaybe have a LOD archive?
12:38.21MikmaNeronix: it will be :D
12:38.25WobinNeronix: That I'm working on, yeah
12:39.03Mikmawobster rocks
12:39.08Mikmathat
12:39.14Mikmathat's really needed addon tbh
12:39.24Mikmai like to be able to track my whispers :)
12:39.40nevcairielcross-reloadui ?
12:39.54MikmaWobin: cross
12:39.57MikmaARGH
12:40.02Mikmasorry about this i'm on PC
12:40.06Mikmaand this keyb sucks
12:40.12Mikma(mac laptop user)
12:40.44MikmaWobin: save the chats for cross-rl ;D
12:41.39Wobinfor.. what?
12:42.10nevcairielcan i track my chats after reloadui or re-log?
12:42.51CIA-1703prandur * r11020 10FuBar_ItemBonusesFu/ (FuBar_ItemBonusesFu.toc libs/): FuBar_ItemBonusesFu: small change to TOC and svn:externals
12:42.59Wobinwell it seemed to work when I crashed
12:43.03WobinOr disconnected
12:43.06Wobinas the case was
12:45.00CIA-1703prandur * r11021 10FuBar_TransporterFu/ (FuBar_TransporterFu.toc TransporterFu.lua): FuBar_TransporterFu: Small change to TOC and embedded libs
12:48.46ag`who is tardmr?
12:49.03nevcairieltem
12:49.17ag`he's not here it seems
12:49.33Wobin~seen tem
12:49.50purltem <n=tardmrr@12.150.234.122> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 9h 31m 39s ago, saying: 'hehe'.
12:49.55ag`ok
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12:54.38haste[Ammo]: http://haste.pastey.net/833-487a
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13:01.42[Wobin]hehe
13:01.52[Wobin]you should have named it http://hastey.pastey.net
13:02.45hastehehe
13:04.00nevcairielhastey pastey .. that rocks :P
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13:07.14GwieFis there a mod that automagically turns all ace2 mods /chat command into a fubar menu ui or similar?
13:07.32NeronixGwieF: DeuceCommander or ModMenuTuFu
13:07.38GwieFah ty
13:07.47Neronixboth are fubar plugins, but can run independant of it
13:07.49Neronixnp
13:11.36CIA-1703moonsorrow * r11022 10GotWood/GotWood.lua:
13:11.36CIA-17GotWood:
13:11.36CIA-17- possible fix for strange frame behaviour when (re-)loading
13:12.20Neronixhttp://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/intervention/ lol
13:14.55Neronixhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izet8zN1vmE lol^(0/0)
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13:26.07CIA-1703moonsorrow * r11023 10XArt/ (XArt.toc libs/):
13:26.07CIA-17XArt:
13:26.07CIA-17- forgot AceLibrary external
13:26.44nevcairielwelcome back to yesterday
13:26.45nevcairiel:)
13:27.10[Wobin]snort
13:27.16[Wobin]CATCHPHRASE =P
13:27.43[Wobin]wow
13:27.59[Wobin]I'm hooked on Vitas
13:28.02[Wobin]That boy can sing =P
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13:28.43ag`Neronix, which one have the fewest bugs?:)
13:28.51[Wobin]bringingin countertenors to the masses =P
13:29.20[Wobin]dear god
13:29.29[Wobin]iTunes7 is 35M
13:29.37[Wobin]whatever happened to streamlined programs =P
13:29.47[Wobin]It's like downloading a WoW patch =P
13:29.53nevcairiel:p
13:30.02nevcairielwait for the 2.0.x patch
13:30.06[Wobin]hehe
13:30.07nevcairielits going to be big :)
13:30.17Neronixag`: huh?
13:30.37ag`GwieF: DeuceCommander or ModMenuTuFu
13:31.10GwieFag : I think you are kinda scrolled up :)
13:31.57nevcairieli think ag just wants to know which of both has the fewest bugs :D
13:34.32FISKER_Qa 2.0.x patch probably shouldn't be big :I
13:34.52nevcairielonly like 1.4GB
13:36.35Neronixhttp://www.suxornews.com/news/3/Grim%20Batol/horde/Haste
13:36.36Neronix:O
13:36.50Neronixag`: Neither one has any bugs
13:37.11ag`what's the difference then?
13:37.15NeronixDeuceCommander only does the menus, ModMenuTuFu has addon manager stuff in it
13:37.15FISKER_Qwell 2.0.x would be a minor revision
13:37.21ag`I see
13:37.27FISKER_Qthe compatibillity patch between retail wow and expansion might be big
13:37.28FISKER_Q:P
13:37.34ag`~haste
13:37.36purli guess haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
13:37.36FISKER_Qalthough it shouldn't either
13:37.44hasteshit shit! fire zhe missiles!
13:37.49nevcairielyou dont know that 2.0.0 will be the bc release
13:37.51FISKER_Qconsidered it wouldn't need anymore gamedata than the new models from the races currently
13:37.53steinoload the gunz!
13:37.54NeronixI use MCP and I wrote DC because going through MMTu takes too long
13:38.02nevcairielwow release came as 1.1.something
13:38.23Wobinwtf m8?
13:38.23nevcairiel1.1.2 it was
13:38.34FISKER_Qthen you don't need to patch it :P
13:39.24WobinWhat an odd installation
13:39.33Wobinit seems most of the time is spent removing/deleting settings/files
13:39.48hastethat's cool
13:40.03FISKER_Qinstallation of what_
13:40.04FISKER_Q?
13:40.10GwieFcan't you get to the new starting zones even if you don't have BC?.. that'll be quite a lot of patch
13:40.23nevcairielno you cannot go there
13:40.30FISKER_Qnot currently anyways
13:40.40nevcairielyou have to cross some portale to go there
13:40.41hastewith a sandbox I guess you can?
13:40.44FISKER_Qin the alpha the zones are instanced
13:40.45nevcairiel-e
13:41.14FISKER_Qwell the starting zones + outland is in the same zone
13:41.16nevcairielnot intanced, just on the worldserver of the outlands
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14:00.51IndustrialFascinating video of a prison experiment - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2683701783583080634
14:03.30FISKER_QTLDR
14:04.25Wobinwww.askaninja.com
14:05.21Wobinoh god
14:05.24Wobin80's fashion
14:05.33WobinI remember this
14:07.08Wobindear god
14:07.12Wobin1 hour
14:07.54CIA-1703jncl * r11024 10oSkin/ (18 files):
14:07.54CIA-17oSkin: Added Class Trainer, Tradeskill, Craft, Talent, Friends (inc
14:07.54CIA-17Ignore/Who/Guild & Raid), CastingBar & MirrorTimers, Mail (inc support for
14:07.55CIA-17GMail), changed Auction, Character, Loot, PetStable, StaticPopup and Taxi Frames
14:09.56CIA-1703nevcairiel * r11025 10Bartender2/ (Bartender2.lua Options.lua): Bartender2: cleanup
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14:12.27FISKER_Q:O whoever jncl is
14:12.57FISKER_Qand someone MIKMA better download it and host it
14:12.59SH|ShabadorAfter testing the new SW_Stats it seems like DM is way less memory consuming. With SW_Stats it didn't take long (solo) to go from 31 to 40 MiB. oO
14:13.28hastesounds like a very valid comparison :<
14:13.43CIA-1703ammo * r11026 10PinPoint/Display/WorldMap.lua: PinPoint: woot, it shows stuff on the worldmap.
14:13.53Mikmaga
14:14.32SH|ShabadorWith DM I stay at 31-32'ish through the raid. (I don't know much about benchmarking though, so there might be other facts to consider :p )
14:17.01FISKER_Qtick tock Mikk
14:17.05FISKER_QMikma *
14:17.08FISKER_Qbtw Mikk you here?
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14:19.54Prophyis there an ACE2 type mod that is similar like possessions?
14:20.10ag`Tekkub,
14:21.00ag`you there?
14:22.28IndustrialWhere can I see the commit log again
14:22.29Industrial?
14:23.01hastehttp://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace
14:23.09hastehttp://groups.google.com/group/wowace
14:25.48Industrialthanks
14:25.56Industrialrebuilding my bookmarks :<
14:26.21FISKER_Qcome on Mikma
14:26.33FISKER_Qi'll let you cuddle me
14:28.09haste:o
14:28.24grzesieqheh, I like the last changes to bt2
14:28.39grzesieq<PROTECTED>
14:28.39grzesieq<PROTECTED>
14:28.39grzesieq-                       Padding = -1,
14:28.39grzesieq+                       Padding = -1,
14:28.40grzesieq<PROTECTED>
14:29.03grzesieqgroundbreaking.
14:29.11Industriallol =P
14:29.21nevcairielisnt it?
14:29.22nevcairiel:)
14:29.47grzesieqsvn should have an option to avoid that
14:31.53nevcairielthe problem there was, that it had mixed line-breaks
14:31.57nevcairielsome unix, some windows
14:32.17nevcairielnow its all the same, dont ask me which
14:32.17hasteunix ftw!
14:33.00nevcairielunix is fun, you get rid of all the noobs who just try to open your addon with notepad =P
14:33.53FISKER_Qnotepad++ ftw
14:34.08grzesieqTextMate ftw
14:34.11nevcairieli use notepad++ as well, its great
14:34.25Industrialvim
14:34.40grzesieqbleh, vim
14:34.50Industrial:%s/^M//g
14:34.55Industrialdone
14:34.55Industrial:p
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14:44.18hastenevcairiel: rly?
14:44.26haste*checks*
14:44.47onekohow long does it typically take to get a response from Cladhaire on a request for an svn account?
14:45.00nevcairieldepends.
14:45.38nevcairielhe is quite busy at the moment, with the broken svn and all
14:45.45nevcairielbut shouldnt take too long
14:45.47hastenevcairiel: haha, I didn't know about the notepad thingy :3
14:46.11nevcairieli prefer it because its a clean interface
14:46.41AzurewrathUltraEdit ftw. :)
14:46.42nevcairieland lua syntax highlighting :)
14:46.51Azurewratha pity it has no real lua-formating :/
14:46.51hasteI use SciTE
14:47.54Gngsktoggle all folds <3
14:49.21WobinUE is a bloaty load of bleh =(
14:49.28WobinUnless it got a whole lot better in the last few years
14:49.41nevcairielnew coding excercise, use notepad++ and press ctrl-alt-r
14:49.44nevcairielnow code like that
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14:59.23Wobinno ckk?
14:59.26Wobinaw
14:59.33Wobin~seen ckknight
14:59.46purlckknight <i=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-191.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 7m 52s ago, saying: 'and I have a local copy'.
15:03.18IndustrialGngsk, 'zi'
15:03.19Industrial:P
15:03.41Wobin~seen Tekkub
15:03.45purltekkub is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 272 messages. Is idling for 8h 47m 10s, last said: 'api for 2.0 is basically the same'.
15:05.00CIA-1703id * r11027 10idChat2_ChannelNames/idChat2_ChannelNames.lua: idChat2_ChannelNames: You can now turn channel text completely off for every channel.
15:05.13Industrial:E
15:06.51CIA-1703tekkub * r11028 10AbacusLib/AbacusLib.toc: AbacusLib - Is this thing on? *tap tap*
15:07.26nevcairieloh noes, Tekkub is alive
15:07.39WobinAha!
15:07.43WobinTekkub!
15:07.44Tekkub:P
15:07.47Tekkubjust got up
15:07.51WobinMorning =)
15:07.56Tekkubwant to sleep more
15:07.58Tekkubfucking pool
15:08.11WobinThe trials and tribulations of responsiblity =)
15:08.31Tekkubshe said we close it when we run out of chemicals
15:08.40TekkubI'm gonna burn thru chlorine soooooo fast
15:08.45nevcairielhaha
15:09.00WobinHey Tekk, with regards to Teknicolor, is there any reason the "WHO_LIST_UPDATE" event uses UnitName("target") instead of the name from the GetWhoInfo?
15:09.05hastehaha, MC cash run is fun :3
15:09.12Tekkubof course wobin
15:09.21Wobin(My precious skin! My eyes! Zhe goggles zhey do narthink!)
15:09.33WobinWhy's that?
15:09.59Tekkubsquirrels
15:10.03Wobinah
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15:10.25Tekkubfeel free to fix it, corpy paste errors haunt me a lot
15:10.30Wobinokies =)
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15:11.20cladahem
15:11.25haste:o
15:11.28nevcairielinteresting
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15:11.32CIA-1703wobin * r11029 10Teknicolor/Core.lua: Teknicolor - Fixed a typo on the who_list scan
15:11.34zomgsvnbrokeis teh svn teh broke?
15:11.37Wobinhehe
15:11.40nevcairielhaha
15:11.45WobinIt just worked for me! =)
15:11.51Tekkubnice try clad
15:12.05zomgsvnbrokei didn't mean to sign in the first time.. *sigh*
15:12.11hastehehe
15:12.17Tekkub* zomgsvnbroke (i=jnwhiteh@fairfax.dreamhost.com) has joined #wowace
15:12.20haste:D
15:12.24WobinWe need to start a guild named SVNDOWN
15:12.34Wobinmade from level 1 gnomes
15:12.36Tekkubyour big white head gives it away
15:12.37Wobinnaked gnomes
15:12.38nevcairieleu please.
15:12.40nevcairiel:)
15:12.42hasteeu please.
15:13.36Tekkubstupid Eurons
15:13.44nevcairielTekkub: who would need FuBar_CombatantsFu anyway ? i converted it, but failed to see the use :)
15:14.08Tekkubmy guild in ZG... my husband in duo withme
15:14.15Tekkubto see if the group is in combat or not
15:14.20Tekkubbut noone uses it
15:15.03WobinI use it at times
15:15.15Wobinit's good to see if someone is dying on a wipe run
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15:17.15zomgsvnbrokehmmm. dying
15:17.47hastea:(
15:19.46mjcbleh.
15:20.09mjcWobin: I'd do that
15:22.05hastehttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2240.msg43498.html#msg43498 << haha, nice dewdrops :p
15:22.31nevcairiela tiny bit broken
15:23.12hastejust a bit
15:23.13Wobinrofl
15:23.16mjcsexy
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15:26.45IndustrialHow do I link to this on the wiki? http://wowace.com/index.php/Category:Author:Industrial
15:26.49Industrialnot with [[Industrial]]
15:27.33Industrial[[Category:Author:Industrial]] ?
15:27.35nevcairielits disabled for you, so noone finds you.
15:27.40Industrialhehe
15:29.08IndustrialTekkub, ping
15:29.12ag`Tekkub, that texture you used in Sqeenix for the border
15:29.17ag`do you have it as a real border texture?
15:29.34ag`so I can use SetBackdrop
15:29.43Tekkub[[Category:Author:Industrial]] will set the page category... [[:Category:Author:Industrial]] will make a link without setting category
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15:30.12Tekkubag, it's not mine I, uhm, borroed it from Square Minimap
15:30.34Industrialokay tek
15:30.53SarozError: Base checksum mismatch on '/trunk/sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua':  
15:30.55Sarozwtf?
15:31.07nevcairielits because of the rollback.
15:31.15FtH|eagleI shall blame you vhaarr!
15:31.17nevcairielfresh checkout will do
15:31.22Sarozoh noes
15:31.34NeronixHow do I un-grey the profile "copy from" option that AceDB creates?
15:31.38ag`Tekkub, hm. Guess I have to branch your minimap then, as it won't get the same look... I changed the way I set the border
15:31.46CIA-1703aileen * r11030 10FuBar_VolumeFu/ (FuBar_VolumeFu.toc README.txt): VolumeFu - added some tags to the .toc
15:32.10Tekkubif you want to add multiple skins for the minimap to it we could
15:32.13nevcairielSaroz: all changes from yesterday were gone, but i re-added them, so no worries ;)
15:32.24IndustrialTekkub, http://www.wowace.com/index.php?title=IdChat&diff=7931&oldid=7842
15:32.25ag`Tekkub, I have multiple skins
15:32.26Industrialdid it like that
15:32.31Tekkubthe name only implies square, we could have a few options
15:33.17TekkubIndie, each module is an actual standalone mod that plugs into the core right?
15:33.19Tekkublike oRA
15:33.22Industrialyes
15:33.27Industrialshould I have different pages/
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15:33.46TekkubI'd make a proper page for each, and use {{Addon Ministub|ModuleName}}
15:33.52Tekkublike my cat...
15:33.55Industrialkay, theres 12 now :P
15:34.04Tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/index.php/Category:Author:Tekkub_Stoutwrithe
15:34.12CIA-1703saroz * r11031 10sRaidFrames/ (Bindings.xml libs/ sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFrames.toc):
15:34.12CIA-17sRaidFrames:
15:34.12CIA-17- Use Babble-Spell to check if the buff we are looking for is indeed the correct one
15:34.12CIA-17- Added Fear Ward
15:34.12CIA-17- Removed self:G()
15:34.16Industrial>_o
15:34.18Tekkubmost all of those use {{Addon Ministub}}
15:34.31Tekkubyou'll just leave out the NoAuthor param
15:34.35mjcfuck. I hit restart by accident.
15:35.04Industrialalso should I rename it to idCHat2 ?
15:35.07Industrialif possible..
15:35.36Industrialor leave the idChat2_ out of the module names
15:35.39Tekkubuse Move up top, it'll create a redirect for you automatically
15:35.53Tekkubdon't leave it out
15:35.55Industrialk
15:36.17Tekkubhere one sec...
15:36.24Industrialwheres move up top
15:36.34Saroznevcairiel, yea I noticed - thx :)
15:36.38Industriali feel so newb ;\
15:37.01Tekkubone moment...
15:38.30Tekkubthere I added in some stub calls, just create the pages those link to
15:38.39Tekkuband at the top of the page is a "Move" tab
15:39.46Tekkubon the module pages, after the infobox call your prolly want to put:
15:40.01Tekkub<small>< [[idChat2]]</small>
15:40.51Tekkubthat'll leave a lil breadcrumb back to the core's page
15:40.51Industrialokay
15:40.51Industrialthanks :)
15:40.51nevcairielSaroz: yay buffs :) Hide Rage/Energy, please ? :D
15:40.51AzurewrathWobin: [2006/09/16 17:39:58-223]: Teknicolor\Core.lua:1: unexpected symbol near `' ;)
15:41.50CIA-1703andalia 07andalia * r11032 10Teknicolor/Teknicolor/Core.lua: Teknicolor (branch): Merged r11029-fix
15:42.20nevcairielthat typo already got branched :p
15:42.35CIA-1703wobin * r11033 10Teknicolor/Core.lua: Teknicolor - Where'd that ¿ come from?
15:43.00hasteWobin: l2use svn blame
15:43.20nevcairieland blame yourself?
15:43.21nevcairiel:)
15:43.29Health¿ looks like utf-8?
15:43.47Healthat least rendered in iso
15:44.31Wobin
15:44.54Healthparty party
15:45.03Healthmy irc client is set to render in iso something!
15:45.31CIA-1703tekkub * r11034 10KC_Mobility/KC_Mobility.toc:
15:45.31CIA-17KC_Mobility
15:45.32CIA-17- TOC fix for wiki
15:47.15CIA-1703nevcairiel * r11035 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Babble-Spell should go in .toc as well :) plus optdeps
15:47.38CIA-1703jncl * r11036 10oSkin/ (5 files): oSkin: Added ChatFrame and TopFrame (as per code from forum), fixed GuildFrame error ( thanks Sariash)
15:48.34CIA-1703jncl * r11037 10oSkin/ (ChatFrames.lua TopFrame.lua): oSkin: Actually include added files, Duh :(
15:49.30CIA-1703aileen 072.0 * r11038 10FuBar_FarmerFu/FuBar_FarmerFu/libs/: FarmerFu - externals
15:50.50HealthWobin: Was awhile since I downloaded the fuxpfu plugin.. but it doesn't seem to save whether to be active or not between profiles.. maybe has been fixed? or blaming ck?
15:50.53Health:P
15:51.09nevcairielblame ck, thats always a good approach
15:51.19Wobinin regards to the hide while active?
15:51.23hastehaha
15:51.34WobinThat's a fubar feature =)
15:51.35hastemana igniting corde went for 300g :p
15:51.57nevcairielwe are doing that with bwl. thats good money :)
15:52.16hasteyeh, on Garr now, and we've made 800g so far
15:52.34hastetotal players from my guild: 17
15:52.42Neronix~botmail for ckknight WTB 7[Copy from default profile for AceDB] PST
15:53.22nevcairieli can only copy from other char profiles, not from class or default
15:53.30nevcairielmust be broken :)
15:53.33NeronixYeah, that's the problem
15:53.48NeronixAccording to the wiki docs and code, you can only copy from like-type profiles
15:53.54CIA-1703aileen 072.0 * r11039 10FuBar_FarmerFu/FuBar_FarmerFu/libs/: FarmerFu - externals
15:53.55Neronixchar-char, realm-realm etc.
15:54.00nevcairielwhy is that?
15:54.04NeronixI have no clue
15:54.24Healthwobin, heh.. I set it active on one profile/char.. when I log onto my other char I get the minimap icon
15:54.32NeronixBut I'm stuck here reconfiguring now that I realise that having every char use the default profile is funky
15:54.42Wobinhum
15:54.42Healthwith it active but no icon/bar in fubar
15:55.02WobinI've reduced it to specifically using the fubar profiles
15:55.17mjckergoth: around?
15:58.31Industrialhow do I make one wiki page redirect to another?
15:59.02Industrialid like to move the idCHat page to idChat2 and let idChat redirect to idCHat2
15:59.06Industrial:>
15:59.16sbuhmm, vista rocks :)
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16:01.47CIA-1703saroz * r11040 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: When using absolute health on an unfriendly target (boss) and mobhealth has been found, use the syntax "CurrentHealth (Percent%)"
16:02.59Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2104.new#new
16:03.00IndustrialBAM
16:03.01IndustrialI win
16:03.04Industrialmuahhaha
16:03.31JoshBorkewell blast
16:03.34JoshBorkemy version is out of date
16:04.19IndustrialNow that I 'officially' (*cough* whatever that may stand for) mad idChat a community project the community can do the coding, hah!
16:04.32Industrialor at least the parts im not doing
16:04.34Industrial:D
16:05.54CIA-1703jncl * r11041 10oSkin/oSkin.toc: oSkin: Updated TOC, hopefully create a new zipfile :)
16:07.03nevcairieljncl didnt hear that zips are down, i guess
16:07.03mjcwho's jncl :P
16:11.14ag`Tekkub,
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16:22.03nevcairielMikma: did you get a response from Gngsk regarding your multi-row-bars ?
16:23.27grzesieqcrap, I keep trying to shift-scroll to the bottom of chat window in my IRC client
16:23.37nevcairiellol
16:24.55WobinI wish I could do that
16:25.22nevcairiel~seen Mikma
16:25.33purlmikma is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 2487 messages. Is idling for 2h 11m 40s, last said: 'ga'.
16:25.58nevcairielis "ga" some form of bbl i havent heard before ? :)
16:27.22Wobin~seen wobin
16:27.24purlwobin is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 86 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen wobin'.
16:27.34Wobin86 messages only =(
16:27.39Wobinclearly I am too quiet
16:28.02nevcairielMikma never disconnects, that prolly the messages from like a week
16:28.34nevcairiel1wk 2days 17hrs actually
16:28.37nevcairiel:)
16:28.58nevcairielhm
16:29.01nevcairiel~seen nevcairiel
16:29.03purlnevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge (7d 7h 20m 15s) #wowace (7d 7h 20m 15s). Has said a total of 955 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen nevcairiel'.
16:29.36nevcairielwhy does it provide more information for me?
16:30.20FISKER_Qso haste
16:30.32hasteso FISKER_Q
16:30.40Wobinso nevcairiel
16:30.44hasteso Wobin
16:31.24FISKER_Qthis is going nowhere
16:31.32FISKER_Qupdated your addonupdater? :)
16:33.32FISKER_Qsoooooooo <insert name>
16:33.38FISKER_Q(18:05:55) <CIA-17> jncl * r11041 oSkin/oSkin.toc: oSkin: Updated TOC, hopefully create a new zipfile :)
16:33.55hasteFISKER_Q: update it to what?
16:34.05hasteLuaforge got up again a couple of hours ago
16:34.07hastewhen I wnet to bed
16:34.16hasteso I haven't added LuaSocket in it yet :(
16:34.16FISKER_Qso you forgot what you wanted to do?
16:34.27FISKER_Qok good cause i forgot what you wanted to add :P
16:34.31Wobinhrm
16:34.34hasteI wanted to make it work on more systems
16:34.35WobinIn regards to Ace2
16:34.40hasteand change the add on list
16:34.45WobinCan I mixin AceEvent to an OO object I'm creating?
16:34.56Wobinto an AceOO object I'm creating, that is
16:35.15nevcairielso, performance wise, i need one of my self.db values like 10 times in a function, would it be better to create a local containing it, or access it that 10 times directly?
16:35.25Wobinlocal
16:36.11Wobinsince the local is a direct reference to the table stored in self.db.<x>, it'll always be faster than referencing self then db then <x>
16:36.12SarozoRA2 should use BATTLEGROUND in SendAddonMessage(), when not in a raid :(
16:38.08Azurewrathmhm.. i'm trying to rewrite the "Display Guild Rank" part of InspectorAce with Ace2.. besides that i'm totally confused currently... is AceHook-2.0 the only lib i'll nedd? (Besides AceAddon, AceLibrary and AceOO-2.0)
16:38.42Azurewrath*need
16:42.57Nickenyfikenuhm inspectorace is that like superinspect?
16:43.12Saroz~seen Saroz
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16:43.46NeronixWobin: Moo = AceOO.Class("AceEvent-2.0")
16:43.48AzurewrathNickenyfiken: mhm not really.. it was used to cross-inspect and enlarge the inspect range..
16:44.16WobinNeronix: Oh, of course =) Inheritance =)
16:44.18Neronixor AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):embed(AnyTable)
16:44.25AzurewrathNickenyfiken: side effect was that it Displayed the Guild Rank of someone you inspected
16:44.42Nickenyfikenok, you can cross-inspect with superinspect and it caches the inspect information
16:44.55Nickenyfikenah ok
16:45.13WobinNeronix: Hm, and if I were to use AceEvent to call a function in the object I'd use self.Myfunc, not self.prototype.Myfunc, yeah?
16:45.32AzurewrathNickenyfiken: thought cross-inspect is no longer possible?
16:45.56Nickenyfikenyou mean as in out of distance to inspect?
16:46.07Azurewrathno, cross-faction
16:46.37Nickenyfikenah, no no its not possible
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16:47.36Azurewrathafter all, the only thing i want to implent is the GuildRank Text thingie :)
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16:49.34sbumhhh oSkin
16:49.51sburaidtab window is too small :)
16:50.20FISKER_Qif only i could test the current revision of oskin
16:53.06sbu%-)
16:53.44AzurewrathFISKER_Q: dcc is enough i guess ;p
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16:55.37FISKER_Qyeah :P
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16:55.50Azurewrathyou should accept the send then..
16:55.59FISKER_Qhmm
16:56.02FISKER_Qgonna reg 2 sec
16:57.05FISKER_Qtry now
16:59.42FISKER_Qhave you tried? :P
17:00.12FISKER_QLOL
17:00.34ag`Tekkub, ping
17:00.34FISKER_Qa level 29 battleground twink in our guild just became  level 30 because the guy signed him up where he hadn't explored
17:00.43FISKER_Qwhen he got out he got exp for exploration and leveled 30
17:00.44Tekkubeh?
17:00.59FISKER_Qjust say pong
17:01.12Wobinor 'ack'
17:01.13Nickenyfikenlol
17:01.27nevcairielin a AceOptions table, can i do a "range" but only allow vertain values ? like 1,2,3,4,6,12 ?
17:01.30ag`Tekkub, I have created 3 themes that can be changed with slash options
17:01.36nevcairiels/vertain/certain
17:01.40ag`and converted it to ace 2
17:01.45ag`want me to commit so you can take a look at it?
17:01.52ag`you can revert it if you think it's fucked =)
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17:02.34ag`nevcairiel, afraid not...
17:03.22Wobinnevcairiel: You can set the 'step'
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17:03.43nevcairielits not the same step all the time
17:04.02nevcairiellike i want rows for a actionbar, only 1,2,3,4,6,12 are possible or it get screwd up
17:04.31WobinJust have it use the error message
17:05.01Wobinor move it to a valid number in the set function
17:06.09nevcairielyeah going to set the next possible number
17:10.15Nickenyfikenany words on when svn file list will work again?
17:12.36FISKER_Qprobably when clad has had a good nights sleep
17:14.00Nickenyfikenin other words he said it will be fixed sometimes (today?) after he had some sleep?
17:14.20Nickenyfikeni dont want to checkout the whole svn again to update my mods :-P
17:14.58Tekkubag, yea commit away
17:15.07Tekkubsorry, was in BFD
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17:15.34FISKER_Qhaha
17:15.40FISKER_Qepic pond battle in ab
17:16.05eternally777I thinking people checking out the whole svn is what helped put it in its current state tbh.
17:17.04Nickenyfikenyeah well, the problem is ive updated all my mods from the filelist until it went dead... so its back to the svn or no updates att all
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17:24.03CIA-1703tekkub * r11043 10KC_AutoRepair/KC_AutoRepair.toc:
17:24.03CIA-17KC_AutoRepair
17:24.03CIA-17- TOC Fixes for the wiki
17:27.29CIA-1703ag * r11044 10Squeenix/ (Border.blp Squeenix.lua Squeenix.toc):
17:27.29CIA-17Squeenix:
17:27.29CIA-17<PROTECTED>
17:27.29CIA-17<PROTECTED>
17:28.31CIA-1703nightdew * r11045 10SpellStatusLib/SpellStatus-1.0/SpellStatus-1.0.lua:
17:28.31CIA-17SpellStatus-1.0:
17:28.31CIA-17- Added logic to handle "next melee" type spells without them interfering other spell types.
17:29.43CIA-1703nightdew * r11046 10SpellStatusLib/SpellStatus-AimedShot-1.0/SpellStatus-AimedShot-1.0.lua:
17:29.43CIA-17SpellStatus-1.0:
17:29.43CIA-17- Fixed header information.
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17:32.19Nightdewwho uses the login rabbit on the svn?
17:34.05nevcairielvhaarr
17:35.56CIA-1703nightdew * r11047 10FuBar_SpellStatusFu/: Created folder remotely
17:36.24Industriallogin rabbit/
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17:37.31Laricag` I wonder if it is a bug in aguf or in the layout.. sometimes I can see one line of buff/debuffs on a target.. sometimes only 1.. but I know that all 16 slots are full.. like when hakkar does a lifedrain
17:38.46ag`you mean sometimes two sometimes one right?
17:38.52Laricyes
17:39.09Lariccant type today :P
17:40.14Laricand for some reason the layouts really like to stick all the icons on top of eachother.. loot type and group leader etc
17:40.49ag`dunno
17:40.56ag`I don't think the default theme is like that though
17:40.58CIA-1703yzerman * r11048 10OneRing/locals.lua: OneRing - Chinese locals added.
17:41.36CIA-1703nightdew * r11049 10FuBar_SpellStatusFu/Libraries/: Created folder remotely
17:43.00CIA-1703yzerman * r11050 10OneRing/locals.lua: OneRing - Chinese locals updated.
17:44.04haste550g for wrath leggings, rofl :p
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17:45.19haste1100g for BF leggings :o
17:45.36pastamancerag`: I should have resting, in-combat, and raid-target icon support for you in about an hour
17:45.56Tekkubfucker maing empty addon pages with only an infobox in em
17:46.46tumetomhttp://raidorg.lagcity.de/Addons/  ->  does anybody want to test my multi-zip-feature :)
17:47.01ag`pastamancer, sounds very good
17:47.15ag`Lots of people have been asking for that one :-)
17:47.45Kebinusancan you skin fubar panels with oskin?
17:48.05tumetomKebinusan yes
17:49.02SH|ShabadorCan you skin DamageMeters with oskin...? (hint, hint)
17:49.19Industrialhaste, nice
17:49.33haste3600g on 17 people :3
17:49.42steinowin!
17:50.30nevcairielnice
17:51.10hastenerd orgasm when BF went for 1100g on VT :p
17:51.13Industrialsay dows anyone know if I can get rid of the hideous chatframe beackground and just give it my own background?
17:51.43FISKER_Qlol
17:52.04hasteIndustrial: CHAT_FRAME_TEXTURES = {}
17:52.06Industrialreally I dislike it
17:52.15IndustrialI also wanna place them myself with setpoint
17:52.16Industrial:P
17:52.17hastethat will prevent it from showing the BG when you howver it
17:52.23Industrialk
17:52.46Industrial:D
17:53.14hastehover*
17:53.54AzurewrathTortoiseSVN 1.4.0, built against Subversion 1.4.0. Released 16. September 2006. <3
17:56.36nevcairielany major changes since the rc?
17:56.53CIA-1703etten * r11051 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (CHANGELOG.txt FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua README.txt):
17:56.53CIA-17Fix for the !cff prepended to the hex color code from GetItemQualityColor
17:56.53CIA-17Fix for the menu update bug with check and radio buttons. True bug is in dewdrop. It needs to redraw the menu on the update.
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17:58.13CIA-1703jncl * r11052 10oSkin/ (8 files): oSkin: Fixed bug in AuctionFrame.lua and standardised debugging statements
17:58.16Azurewrathnevcairiel: haven't read the changelog yet.. but i think not, rc4 was pretty stable afaik
17:59.50Tekkubhttp://www.furaffinity.net/full/221580/
17:59.52Tekkub*grin*
17:59.58Tekkubweirdo nerd furries
18:00.12nevcairielMikma: finished multi-row-bars, contact me when you get back
18:00.50nevcairielthat looks like some fun on lan party parking loot, only that tail is confusing me ..
18:01.58sbutumetom: ahhh - nice, had the same idea ;o but no time to code ;o
18:03.18tumetomsbu the script autoupdates from the svn (files)
18:03.19CIA-1703nightdew * r11053 10GratuityLib/Gratuity-2.0/Gratuity-2.0.lua:
18:03.19CIA-17Gratuity-2.0:
18:03.19CIA-17- Fixed header. SVN tag referenced Compost-2.0 instead of Gratuity-2.0.
18:03.47Industrialhttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1667/wowscrnshot091606195953cq7.jpg
18:03.48Industrial:s
18:04.33grzesieqhm, new oskin seems to fuck up aguf
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18:06.10sbugrzesieq: uhm - no? :o
18:06.22sbuwhats wrong?
18:06.22grzesieqwell, I got no unitframes
18:07.05FISKER_Qso tumetom
18:07.12FISKER_Qis those addons new from the svn_
18:07.14FISKER_Q?
18:07.14CIA-1703nightdew * r11054 10FuBar_SpellStatusFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
18:07.14CIA-17FuBar_SpellStatusFu:
18:07.14CIA-17- First check-in.
18:07.34Sarozok, did I miss something about Babble-Spell? It doesn't have a translation for Soul Stone
18:08.08nevcairiel"Soulstone Resurrection"
18:08.11nevcairielis the buff name
18:08.25Sarozah
18:09.14CIA-1703etten * r11055 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua README.txt): Added SVN tags for date and revision.
18:11.20ag`grzesieq, sbu, I just updated to newest oSkin and there's no trouble..
18:11.33grzesieqag`: ye, I updated too and it works now
18:11.35Sarozwhere does the function RegisterCheck() come from?
18:11.55sbuag`: no problems for me ;o
18:12.21NeronixWobin: Yes, self.Func
18:12.31grzesieqseems like i got a half-working version ;/
18:12.34nevcairielSaroz: dunno, where is it used?
18:12.43Sarozthis oRA2CooldownFu
18:13.00nevcairielah
18:13.07nevcairielregistercheck is ora2 core i think
18:13.35CIA-1703etten * r11056 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua README.txt): Try number 2 for getting the SVN tags to work
18:14.08Sarozman the API for cooldowns in CTRA is retarded
18:14.28CIA-1703nightdew * r11057 10FuBar_SpellStatusFu/Libraries/:
18:14.28CIA-17FuBar_SpellStatusFu:
18:14.28CIA-17- Fixed svn:externals to properly download.
18:14.37sbuSaroz: oh - planning to implement cooldown display in sRaidFrames? :p
18:14.45Sarozyea
18:14.54Sarozcan do it, but it's just... It feels bad
18:14.57Sarozthe API is so stupid
18:15.01nevcairielSaroz: Ammo was planning to add that functionality in oRA2, maybe wait
18:15.10Sarozok
18:15.20SarozCD [spell] [time]
18:15.22SarozCD 1 30
18:15.25Sarozhow STUPID is that
18:15.32sbuSaroz: hmm - is there no ace lib to capture + cache all CTRA events? would be more efficient!? (perhaps needed by some other addons)
18:15.41sbuuhm - whats "1"? :o
18:15.44Sarozexactly
18:15.51Sarozit's the spell
18:15.58Sarozwhich CTRA has assigned a numeric vaue
18:16.00Sarozvalue
18:16.01sbumh - ctra constant?
18:16.03nevcairielthe important spells are numberd, dunno which 1 is exactly
18:16.07Sarozyea
18:16.10Sarozthey have 3 spells
18:16.12SarozSoulstone
18:16.15SarozCombat res
18:16.19SarozShaman res
18:16.26Sarozif you wan't to add more, you are screwed
18:16.29nevcairieldoes it have DI as well?
18:16.31Sarozno
18:16.44nevcairielDI LoH wouldnt be bad
18:16.48Sarozindeed
18:16.49nevcairielbut its CTRA
18:16.50nevcairiel:)
18:16.51Sarozand what's worse
18:16.59Sarozit sends CD 1 30 when the ability is used
18:17.11nevcairielyeah when the cooldown starts
18:17.14Sarozso if you miss that event
18:17.16Sarozyou are fucked
18:17.50Sarozdunno if there is a command to request status on cooldowns
18:17.53SarozI highly doubt it
18:17.57nevcairielso do i
18:18.06Saroz*sigh*
18:18.54sbuhmm - looks like its only sent on 'SPELLCAST_STOP' :o
18:18.59Sarozye
18:18.59CIA-1703etten * r11058 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua README.txt): SVN Keywords try 3
18:20.12CIA-1703nightdew * r11059 10SpellCacheLib/SpellCache-1.0/SpellCache-1.0.lua:
18:20.12CIA-17SpellCache-1.0:
18:20.12CIA-17- Fixed header information.
18:20.21nevcairielsomeone could try to implement a cooldown refresh within oRA, ctra wouldnt support it .. but at least oRA :)
18:20.23SH|ShabadorAny Paladin blessing mod you guys can reccomend? (I use Panza atm, but it's waaaay overkill). Thinking of switching to Clique and some buffmod.
18:20.41SarozI use clique
18:20.50SarozWas using PalaPower for buffing
18:20.51grzesieqevl: *poke*
18:20.53Sarozbut it makes me cry
18:20.56CIA-1703nightdew * r11060 10SpellStatusLib/SpellStatus-1.0/SpellStatus-1.0.lua:
18:20.56CIA-17SpellStatus-1.0:
18:20.56CIA-17- Fixed header information.
18:20.57Sarozso badly coded
18:20.57vhaarrSH|Shabador: RaidBuffs
18:21.12CIA-1703etten * r11061 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua README.txt): SVN Keywords try 4
18:21.13nevcairiela pala friend of mine uses HolyHope
18:21.14Faynoshrug, i use XRS
18:21.23Sarozholy hope doesnt monitor buffs
18:21.33Sarozpalypower is AWESOME at that, but it's very shitty coded
18:21.35nevcairielno idea, just heard the name once
18:21.36Sarozdrains 50kb/s
18:21.43SH|ShabadorOk, thanks. Gonna test it out. Hm... Yeah... Why the hell haven't I been using XRS... oO
18:21.56CIA-1703nightdew * r11062 10SpellStatusLib/SpellStatus-AimedShot-1.0/SpellStatus-AimedShot-1.0.lua:
18:21.56CIA-17SpellStatus-AimedShot-1.0:
18:21.56CIA-17- Fixed header information.
18:22.06SH|Shabador(I use it with my rogue to keep track on people, just had it disabled on my pala since he's only level 45)
18:22.20hastehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKpFftwu1VQ << nerf
18:22.21FaynoXRS only has the 5 minute blessings built in, you have to manually type in the greater ones
18:22.29Sarozye
18:22.45SH|ShabadorHm... True
18:22.53SH|ShabadorGonna check out RaidBuffs though.
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18:27.02CIA-1703etten * r11063 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua README.txt): SVN Keywords try 5
18:27.20SH|ShabadorMetaMap (With most useless modules disabled) or AlphaMap...? :/
18:28.07nevcairielhaste: thats amazing
18:28.48kergothmetamap seems less bloated than it used to be, resource wise.. i finally ditched atlas for it
18:28.51kergothheh
18:29.17tumetomhttp://raidorg.lagcity.de/Addons/  --> toc reading
18:29.22SH|ShabadorYeah, metamap is really modular now, so you can pull out all the junk. (Waypoints, import, export, etc)
18:30.30FISKER_Qbtw tumetom
18:30.37FISKER_Qis those addons actually the updates ones from svn?
18:30.40CIA-1703dreyruugr * r11064 10Sprocket/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
18:30.41CIA-17* added global configuration panel
18:30.41CIA-17* added various global options
18:30.41CIA-17* added initial center button support (icon changing is disabled)
18:30.41CIA-17* fixed some issues with scaling and dual monitor setups
18:30.41CIA-17* fixed an issue with the default talents icon in the micro buttons menu
18:30.43CIA-17* misc other changes and fixes
18:31.06Faynowoot, thank you dreyruugr
18:31.06tumetomFISKER_Q no these addons are the one from svn...../files/
18:31.16FISKER_Qoh
18:31.16FISKER_Q;:(
18:31.45tumetomI could do an updates (cause file script is down..if you want)
18:32.13kergothSH|Shabador: i cant decide whether the knowledge base is junk or not.  seems like itd be useful at times, but worth the overhead of tracking all that info.. i dunno about that
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18:33.19pastamancerandreasg: http://kyle.13th-floor.org/wow/aguf/work/r10982/r10982-combat_resting_raid_icons.diff
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18:34.09CIA-1703tazmanyak * r11065 10Squeenix/Squeenix.toc: Squeenix - toc 11200
18:34.30SH|Shabadorkergoth, Yeah, I've deleted that part from MetaMap. It was usefull after importing some custom data, but I kind of know where all NPC's are by now, so... :p
18:35.20FtH|eagleFayno: I thought I added them, which greater ones does a paladin have?
18:35.30ag`pastamancer, thanks, I will look at it in 1-2 hours
18:35.33Faynowell
18:35.49FaynoI added a buff and it listed blessing of wisdom, etc
18:36.04Faynothey work and eveyrhting, but when i click to cast it only does 5 minute ones
18:36.08Sarozhttp://thottbot.com/?s=Greater+Blessing
18:36.09grzesieqfor some reason sctd stopped working :/
18:36.16Faynoso i went in and typed Greater before each one and that works fine
18:36.18FtH|eaglearen't the greater ones group buffs?
18:36.25Faynoclass buffs
18:36.29Faynoper class
18:36.52FtH|eaglehm, you can cast them when holding shift and click on someone, but that was implemented for group buffs
18:37.03FtH|eagleplaying horde, so no clue how paladin buffs are working :)
18:37.14CIA-1703rophy * r11066 10SimpleCombatLog/ (11 files): (log message trimmed)
18:37.14CIA-17SimpleCombatLog
18:37.14CIA-17- missType and damageType can be localized.
18:37.14CIA-17- Added option: 'color message by Event'.
18:37.14CIA-17- Added more tooltip descriptions for the options.
18:37.15CIA-17- Implemented "Delete Theme".
18:37.17CIA-17- Added back theme: "myDmgDone" and "myDmgTaken", move the predefined themes to a separate file.
18:37.50Sarozw00t
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18:38.31Industrial10.8MB huh!
18:41.25CIA-1703tazmanyak * r11067 10OneBank/locals.lua: OneBank - Fr localization
18:41.49CIA-1703tazmanyak * r11068 10OneRing/locals.lua: OneRing - Fr localization
18:41.59Wobinnight all
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18:43.32Industrialnn Wobin
18:43.37CIA-1703rabbit * r11070 10BigWigs/BWL/Razorgore.lua: BigWigs: Razorgore: Fixed event registration.
18:43.57CIA-1703rabbit * r11071 10BigWigs/ZG/Hakkar.lua: BigWigs: Hakkar: Fixed "You" string.
18:47.22Arrowmaster``omg the svn is back!
18:52.17SH|ShabadorHm... RaidBuffs only supports... Raids. :p (Or Greater Blessings)
18:52.47SH|ShabadorThat's a delete, then.
18:53.02Faynoso you only want support for normal blessings?
18:53.09SarozIs there anything else than raids?
18:53.21Sarozamagawd! new sw_stats 2.0 beta
18:53.22Sarozweee
18:53.30Faynoi believe he said his paladin wasnt 60
18:53.33RoyalIs there a way to check if you have more than 16 buffs? :o
18:53.56SH|ShabadorCorrect. Want something that support both single and greater blessings, really. :)
18:54.11ThraeRoyal: Iterate through UnitBuff and do a count.
18:54.28SH|ShabadorSo I can configure: Priests should get might, warriors should get wisdom... ^^
18:54.49FaynoXRS can do that
18:54.49SH|ShabadorThen click a button and starting to buff. Then get many nasty whispers from the warriors and priests. :p
18:54.56RoyalThrae, I'm a LUA newbie, but UnitBuff shows the hidden buffs then? the buffs you get past 16 buffs (the ones which show no bufftexture)
18:54.57SH|ShabadorOk. I'll stick to XRS then.
18:55.23ThraeRoyal: UnitBuff is the only way to access another player's buffs.
18:55.31ThraeRoyal: For player, you can use GetPlayerBuff.
18:55.38RoyalI mean your own buffs
18:55.57RoyalYeah, and the question is if it's posisble to check buffs past the 16th buffs, the hidden ones
18:56.16ThraeYour own buffs you can use UnitBuff or GetPlayerBuff. They use different indexes, GetPlayerBuff cooresponds to the other PlayerBuff functions.
18:56.28ThraeThey both should show the maximum, but you can use GetPlayerBuff if you want.
18:56.33ThraeExcuse me, bug on my hand.
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18:57.49hyperChipmunkcladhaire eats dead rats
18:57.58SH|ShabadorHm... Any option to toggle XRS to show when in a Party?
18:58.03ThraeAnyone involved in getting their own healthcare in USA? I'm looking for a good provider for the contractor.
18:58.12CIA-1703rabbit * r11072 10FuBar_SpellStatusFu/SpellStatusFu.lua: FuBar_SpellStatusFu: Color true and false in the tooltip green and red, respectively.
18:58.14hyperChipmunkwtf when did I get ops
18:58.52cladhaireI'm here so when I want to bitch about all the idiots who keep joining this channel to bitch about the SVN.. I can
19:00.12FISKER_QWTF is up with the fucking svn!
19:00.25FISKER_Qi've had it with these bugs on this motherfucking svn!
19:00.29cladhaireFISKER_Q: Not so much that sort of bitching.. but the other shit.
19:00.33nevcairielwe only have your usual trolls here, not many come here to complain
19:00.34FISKER_Qoh
19:00.35hyperChipmunkomg h9 teh svn
19:00.54FISKER_Qi h7 it
19:00.57FISKER_Q:P
19:00.59vhaarrcladhaire: "lol SVN sucks, we should use CVS", that kind?
19:01.08Thraeh9?
19:01.20cladhairevhaarr: No.. the people who want the cosmos downloader for ace, in svn.
19:01.25hyperChipmunkThrae: like h8...but one bigger!!!
19:01.25nevcairielwhat was this microsoft thing called ...
19:01.31vhaarrcladhaire: wtf
19:01.37hyperChipmunksweet
19:01.37ThraeI think cladhaire may be talking about stuff like "OMG I opened up BigWigs.zip and I only found 'DuctTape.lua'!!!!11one"
19:01.49vhaarrCosmos uses Ace?
19:01.56nevcairiellol
19:01.57nevcairielno
19:02.02ThraeNo, but Cosmos uses SVN
19:02.08vhaarraha
19:02.13FISKER_Q:O
19:02.20hyperChipmunkcan we make it delete all cosmos addons in the user's addon dir
19:02.24cladhaireCTAceMos
19:02.24cladhaireimo
19:02.32vhaarrsigned
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19:02.46nevcairielI will stick with pure Ace, kthx :)
19:03.02hyperChipmunkto get them back for deleting all noncosmos addons with their patcher
19:03.04ThraeWe've already Ace'd two CTMods, CTRA and CTMailMod. Now all we need is CTMapMod, the others are immaterial.
19:03.18nevcairielAmmo is working on mapmod
19:03.24ThraeAh yes, the days of "nopatch" files.
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19:03.47FISKER_Q<PROTECTED>
19:03.56FISKER_Qnot even a 3000 eviscerate crit was enough for that
19:04.09nevcairielwarlocks are teh evil
19:04.12tumetomwhat does these nopatch files do?
19:04.22FISKER_Qso cosmos doesn't rape them
19:04.27FISKER_Qthe addons that is
19:04.28hyperChipmunkprevents cosmos patcher from deleting
19:05.02vhaarrZIP script still not running?
19:05.03hyperChipmunkbecause that's clearly an opt-out thing
19:05.07tumetomis cosmos still alive?
19:05.10FISKER_Qyeah hyperChipmunk
19:05.17cladhairevery much so, and this isn't a bashing session
19:05.17FISKER_QLike spyware and stuff
19:05.18Tekkubclad's working on the SVN, don't worry
19:05.29FISKER_Qbashing is fun imo
19:05.34vhaarrI'm just wondering if I should touch mods to get new ZIP's up or not
19:05.40Tekkuband I thought nopatch wasn't an issue in cosmos anymore
19:05.42FISKER_Qa lot more fun than going against nr. 5 premade team sofar
19:06.12cladhairevhaarr: No, its not running.
19:06.18vhaarrOkay, thanks.
19:06.22hyperChipmunkI'll bash cosmos whenever I want, wherever I want!  And nobody can stop me!
19:06.29FISKER_Qomfg i killed one
19:07.08ThraehyperChipmunk: You bashing something is a little like Rush Limbaugh saying something bad about the Democratic party.
19:07.19hyperChipmunkThrae: you suck!
19:07.48cladhaireWeeds.. is an amazing show.
19:07.52grzesieqhmpf
19:07.58grzesieq12MB
19:08.03grzesieqtoo much bloat :P
19:08.11ThraeOh yes I love gardening...and I bet Weeds isn't about that
19:09.00nevcairielwhat was that fubar plugin called that sells your grey items ..
19:09.14Tekkuboh look it's clad, and yes Weeds kicks ass
19:09.28Thraenevcairiel: Itemized Deductions?
19:09.33FaynoGarbageFu?
19:10.40nevcairieli dont want it to throw stuff away, only sell grey stuff at the vendor
19:10.59ThraeI use Minimalist for that myself.
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19:11.14ThraeIt has blacklists too.
19:11.28Tekkubsell-o-matic or barboy
19:11.50ckknighthey all.
19:11.58nevcairielhey ckk
19:11.58ckknighthow's everyone doing today?
19:12.01Tekkubs/bar/bag/
19:12.08ckknightI had the craziest dreams :-P
19:12.10hyperChipmunkyour mom!
19:12.24hyperChipmunkoh, 'how'
19:12.27hyperChipmunkn/m
19:12.30ckknightI dreamed that I lit fire to the entire world.
19:12.34ckknightit was cool.
19:12.36Tekkub[Taurahe] How!
19:12.39ckknightAustralia didn't catch, though.
19:12.45hyperChipmunkhehe
19:12.50cladhairebastard kangaroos
19:12.57Thraeckknight: I thought you were a Libertarian, not a Deconstructionalist! Hohoho!
19:13.02hyperChipmunkcuz wobin is too awesome
19:13.10ckknightI think it was because of the desert in the middle
19:13.13ckknightThrae, hehe
19:13.38ckknightis the SVN working again?
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19:13.56cladhairethere was a rollback to 11003, but yes.
19:14.06FISKER_Qwhy did it go dead again btw?
19:14.09ThraeAhhh, there's something about 8-bit NES music which hits the 'ol nostalgia gland.
19:14.14cladhairei dont belive eyou had any between 12003 and 11023
19:14.32hyperChipmunkyes, but the delete-cosmos-addons feature is still broke
19:14.35ckknightI actually committed AceEvent at 11024
19:14.51cladhaireAck
19:15.04ckknightI have a local copy of the change I made, though
19:15.49CIA-1703tekkub * r11073 10MountMe/MountMe.toc:
19:15.49CIA-17MountMe
19:15.50CIA-17- TOC updates for the wiki
19:15.53cladhairelemme look quick
19:16.40CIA-1703ckknight * r11074 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - added debugging and bugfix
19:16.43ckknightthere we go
19:16.45ckknightTekkub, ping
19:16.48cladhaireckknight: Yeah, it looks like you got caught.. Anything between 11003 and 11029 got spanked, but it was my fault this time.
19:16.50Tekkuboro?
19:16.52cladhaireso to speak
19:17.03ckknightTekkub, I added debugging to the OnUpdate stuff in AE
19:17.11Tekkub:)
19:17.15ckknightdebugging so that tekSupport might be able to view it
19:17.31ckknightit keeps track of memory, time, and count
19:17.36Tekkubanything I need to change in tS or will turning on debugging handle it?
19:17.55ckknightjust turning debugging on handles it
19:18.02ckknightwithout it, there isn't any debugging that happens
19:18.14Tekkubyea I know
19:18.37Tekkubthere a means by which I can get the rate of a repeating event?
19:18.48ckknight.repeatDelay
19:18.58Tekkub:)
19:19.15vhaarrcladhaire: do you have a list of those commits?
19:19.17ckknightbasically, you have to access AceEvent.delayRegistry
19:19.25ckknightwhich has a whole bunch of tables in it
19:19.26cladhairevhaarr: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace
19:19.29Tekkubvhaarr, the google group
19:19.29ckknightwhich are the registrations
19:19.30vhaarrah
19:19.33vhaarrcool
19:19.38ckknightand they have info in them
19:19.46Tekkubokey ckk
19:20.04cladhairevhaarr: Those are full diffs of each commit
19:20.07TekkubI'll tinker with that
19:20.12vhaarrcladhaire: thanks
19:20.44hyperChipmunkoh neat with the google group
19:21.02cladhairehyperChipmunk: I like getting emails on commits.. its fun
19:21.07hyperChipmunkhehe
19:21.07eternally777I think I found a bug in AceDebug-2.0
19:21.32TekkubI've been harassing clad for a second ggroup too, one that'll nix the commit number from the subject so that the commits will thread properly there and in gmail
19:21.33ckknightlike .mem, .time, .count, .repeatDelay (if it repeats), .time (for next time it'll fire), .event (which'll be the function or string), .self (which references the object that called it), and .id (which holds a unique string or table)
19:21.44hyperChipmunkis there a formal usenet addy?
19:21.44cladhaireeternally777: Its very possible, which portion of it?
19:21.50cladhairehyperChipmunk: I haven't looked TBH =)
19:22.06eternally777Clad, 1 sec, let me replicate it.
19:22.46ckknightoh, crap
19:22.47ckknighthang on
19:22.50Industrialone coffee
19:22.54Industrialsplash
19:22.56Industrialcup
19:22.57yacoobAnyone tried http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3171 ?
19:23.23ckknightnow there's .time and .timeSpent
19:23.28ckknightuse .timeSpent for debugging.
19:23.55Neronixckknight: Did you get the botmail?
19:23.59ckknightyes
19:24.01ckknightum
19:24.04ckknightmaybe.
19:24.29vhaarrhrm, getting some SVN checksum errors on AceEvent now when updating
19:25.04eternally777Clad, in the ":CustomDebug" function, although the bug is occuring while I try to use the regular ":Debug" function.  I haven't even tried to use the ":CustomDebug" function, so I don't know how I'm having this issue.
19:25.13nevcairielvhaarr: you probably updated between 11003 and the crash, right?
19:25.14eternally777Would you like me to post my code?
19:25.23vhaarrnevcairiel: indeed, I understand it
19:25.26nevcairielvhaarr: then you need to delete and get a fresh copy
19:25.29cladhaireeternally777: CustomDebug is called by Debug, so you can follow the path
19:25.42nevcairielhad to do that with all my aceevents
19:25.50eternally777Oh, I see.
19:26.18Neronixckknight: It'd be brilliant to have that because I've only just realised that using the default profile for all chars wont' cut it anymore
19:26.32NeronixAnd having to reconfigure tons of stuff isn't too nice
19:27.26CIA-1703ckknight * r11075 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - changed debugging .time to .timeSpent
19:27.39nevcairielbah! i just updated my aceevents
19:27.52ckknightsorry, guy
19:27.54ckknightupdate again
19:28.00ckknightotherwise it'll fuck up
19:28.02Neronix~emulate ckknight
19:28.03purlACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
19:28.05nevcairielhehe
19:28.06nevcairielnp
19:28.13Neronix~emulate ckknight
19:28.15purlYou know why? Because you touch yourself at night
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19:31.51nevcairielIndustrial: is there a form of compost for frames ? :D
19:32.06IndustrialFrameFactory or something I think
19:32.09Industrialmaybe even a lib
19:32.37NeronixPerfectFramePool
19:32.49cladhairei have a small lib for it.. its really simplistic tho
19:32.56cladhairenormally best to implement it yourself =/
19:33.02cladhairesince they're so special use.
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19:34.38Tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/index.php/PerfectFramePool-2.0
19:35.22Nightdewi have on one computer not show the keybindings in empty buttons.. and on another i do.. what variable is responsible for that?
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19:36.15nevcairieldo you use any actionbaraddon?
19:36.46Nightdewi now use bartender2
19:36.52Nightdewso it should be standard behaviour
19:37.02Nightdewbar does work correct showing or hiding all of them
19:37.37Nightdewbut there is no option for showing or hiding of empty buttons
19:37.38nevcairielbartender has options to show/hide the keybindings
19:37.41Nightdewyes
19:37.43ThraeHmmm, I'm using cladhaire's SCiTE build...how do you turn on auto-indent?
19:37.43Nightdewand that works
19:37.45nevcairieloh only in empty buttons its bugged?
19:37.48Nightdewyes
19:37.52nevcairielhm
19:38.02nevcairieltry locking the buttons
19:38.04nevcairielor unlocking
19:38.10nevcairielin interface options
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19:38.11cladhaireThrae: open the global properties file.. it swhould be in there
19:38.13cladhairelemme look
19:38.27Nightdewnada
19:38.27cladhaireindent.automatic=1
19:40.17yacoobhm.
19:40.24yacoobis there a way for mere mortal to get ocb?
19:40.26vhaarrNightdew: afaik it doesn't show the keybindings for empty buttons
19:40.26Meyrincladhaire: think Google Code can keep up with Ace's popularity?
19:40.34nevcairielit doesnt show the bindings for me on empty buttons.
19:40.36TekkubNeronix, do we need this page?
19:40.36Tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/index.php/AceUtils-Maths-2.0:_API_Request_For_Comments
19:40.39nevcairieland i cannot find any option
19:40.44cladhaireMeyrin: Hrm?
19:40.44nevcairielNightdew: maybe some addon?
19:40.54Nightdewi have same addons on both machines
19:41.02Meyrincladhaire: they offer hosting for projects including subversion repository access
19:41.04Nightdewalready looked at the layout files
19:41.09Nightdewnothing there either
19:41.59nevcairielMeyrin: its google, with their bandwidth they could hold anything /methinks
19:42.38Meyrinnevcairiel: more than what brought the SVN to a screeching 10-car pileup halt?
19:42.56cladhaireI could look into it.. thanks.
19:43.20Thraecladhaire: Ahhh. Yeah, auto-indent is turned on, but it doesn't work quite the same way as VIM. With vim, it'll see you hit return from an if statement, a function declaration, etc. and indent properly. Can SCiTE do that too?
19:43.42cladhaireThrae: I'm not sure.. I'd have to hunt.. you may find answers quicker with google :P
19:45.16Tekkubooo... code.google has a bug tracker...
19:45.26nevcairielcode.google as basicly everything
19:45.27nevcairiel:)
19:45.47TekkubHRm...
19:45.51Tekkubyou know
19:45.55Tekkubthis could be a good thing
19:46.07Meyrinsort of
19:46.11Tekkubinstead of one huge SVN we could each have our own project space
19:46.16Meyrinyou do need a gmail account for a commit bit
19:46.32TekkubI'm sure we can give out gmail accts to anyone that needs
19:46.41steinoI got loads
19:46.42steino:<
19:46.47nevcairieli have some as well
19:46.48nevcairiel:)
19:47.11steinoi got 100 left
19:47.13steino:o
19:47.20MeyrinTekkub: alternatively with svnsync you could make google a mirror of svn.wowace.com
19:47.33Meyrinpoint the unwashed masses there
19:47.39Tekkub:)
19:47.52TekkubI really REALLY like what I see so far here
19:47.59Tekkubplus it takes the load off clad
19:48.08cladhairei'm working on it.
19:48.11Tekkubwe could still make an auto-zip script
19:48.17cladhairegive me time
19:48.25Tekkubno tiem for u!
19:48.44Tekkubgah, you looged out of gtalk clad and lost the transfer
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19:49.23cladhairehuh?
19:49.24cladhaireno i didn't.
19:49.25FISKER_QAB isn't my favorite battleground anymore
19:49.35FISKER_Qthat's the 7th premade i've met
19:49.42cladhaireyou withdrew the offer imo
19:50.01cladhaireI dont see any way to copy the current svn over.. but i'm looking
19:50.20nevcairielask google tech people, maybe they could help you with that
19:50.25cladhaireAnd losing 11000 commits would be bad :P
19:50.32Tekkub<PROTECTED>
19:50.39CIA-1703ckknight * r11076 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - minor bugfix
19:51.11Tekkub<PROTECTED>
19:51.31nevcairielhaha
19:51.32Tekkubclad, could you not do your commit batch rebuild thing but change the path?
19:51.32hyperChipmunkFISKER_Q: what server are you from?
19:51.46Tekkuband somehow change externals in the process :)
19:52.25FISKER_Qeu-ravencrest
19:52.32cladhaireHow do I import a Subversion dump file? We have not implemented this feature yet.
19:52.35cladhairewe couldn't move until that.
19:52.39Meyrincladhaire: need SVN 1.4
19:53.02cladhaireMeryin: let me look, thanks.
19:53.49cladhairei haven't played with svnsync much
19:54.02Meyrinit's all of about 6 days old
19:54.09MeyrinSVN 1.4 was released Sunday
19:55.44Meyrintheoretically svnsync will replicate all history from one subversion repository to another
19:56.07nevcairielonly that all externals are broken on the way
19:56.17cladhairewell, i can deal with that.
19:56.58Meyrinnevcairiel: it also copies revision properties as well
19:57.12cladhaireMeryin: Yeah, but the endpoints would be broken
19:57.19cladhairethey'd exist in the meantime, but they'd need to be updated.
19:57.26cladhairenow.. the w32 binaries didn't install svnsync
19:57.45nevcairieli have svnsync
19:57.51cladhairehow annoying.
19:57.51nevcairielin my svn bin dir
19:57.59Meyrinodd
19:58.07Healthyou need a minimeh cladhaire, cladhaire!
19:58.24NeronixTekkub: Kill it please
19:58.39cladhairei'm checking.
19:58.39Tekkubroger, killing
19:59.00nevcairieldid you use the installer or the zip ? I had the zip, it was in there.
19:59.56cladhairesvnsync can only set up a read only repo, or at least thats the reccomendation.
20:01.05NeronixTekkub: Thanks for adding the notes about garbage churn which I should've done ages ago
20:01.08cladhaireYou should not commit to, or make revision property changes in,
20:01.09cladhairethe destination repository by any method other than 'svnsync'.
20:01.09cladhaireIn other words, the destination repository should be a read-only
20:01.09cladhairemirror of the source repository.
20:01.26Tekkubnero, eh?
20:01.36Meyrincladhaire: since SVN expects there to only be one centralized server it makes sense
20:01.41NeronixTekkub: http://www.wowace.com/index.php?title=Statistician-1.0&action=history
20:01.51Tekkuboh, yea
20:01.54Meyrinit would be for making a read-only mirror
20:01.55nevcairielits not designed for a SVN move..
20:02.11cladhaireyeah, well I dont want to do that
20:02.13cladhaireit makes no sense.
20:02.19Meyrinhrrrrm
20:02.52Meyrincan't be the first time someone's tried to do a SVN move without doing dump/restore......
20:02.54TekkubI think clad wants to move the SVN completely
20:03.05TekkubI love their bugtracker already
20:03.35cladhairei can move the svn
20:03.39cladhairebut without a dump/load you lose all history
20:03.49cladhaireand thats the only way to do that.. a hotcopy, or a dump/load
20:03.49Tekkubyea I know
20:04.14Tekkuband if we lose history, well hell why not split up the SVN into user-based ones on google then
20:04.25Tekkubinstead of one massive SVN
20:04.28ckknightI like community projects, Tekkub
20:04.34Tekkubme too ckk
20:04.38ckknightI want more than one person to be able to hack on one project
20:04.39Tekkub:P
20:04.44cladhaireTekkub: Because then people have no where to go to find "ace" addons.
20:04.52Tekkubme too, cause I can't keep up with all my mods
20:05.03Tekkubokey, one SVN it is
20:05.11Tekkubclad, is it wowace by chance?
20:06.06cladhaireof course =)
20:08.35CIA-1703rabbit * r11077 10FuBar_GroupFu/Libs/ (18 files in 18 dirs): FuBar_GroupFu: Set externals.
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20:13.43cladhaireo rly
20:13.50ckknight_ya rly!
20:14.05Thraecladhaire: Do you have many changes to your SCiTE config? Like idents after if statements and colouring "if...end" different then "function...end", etc.?
20:16.05FISKER_Qi found the stupidest rogue on earth perhaps
20:16.13FISKER_Qhe was wearing nightslayer
20:16.15cladhaireThrae: No, what you ahve there is what I use for the most part
20:16.17FISKER_Qwait for it.....
20:16.22FISKER_Q....And 2 grand marshal weapons
20:16.22cladhairethere are tons of options that can be changed tho
20:16.33Kaeltenwork sucks :p
20:16.58CIA-1703rabbit * r11078 10FuBar_GroupFu/ (FuBar_GroupFu.toc GroupFu.lua Libs/): FuBar_GroupFu: Add CrayonLib to optionaldeps and remove metrognome and AceHook.
20:17.08Sarozso what FISKER_Q?
20:17.27Meyrinhrrrrrrm, how much do you care about timestamps on revisions cladhaire......
20:17.40FISKER_Qhe should use his field marshal gear
20:17.43FISKER_Qatleast some of it :P
20:18.04Meyrin"How to import subversion into Google Code hosting"
20:18.15FISKER_Qyou get nightslayer for the energy bonus and that's usually as a dagger spec(he's sword)
20:18.22yacoob[2006/09/16 22:17:35-195]: FuBar_uFriends\Core.lua:4: Cannot find a library instance of Babble-Class-2.0.
20:18.35yacoobuGuild and uFriends. The lib is there. What gives?
20:18.37cladhaireMeyrin: Not in the least
20:19.49nevcairielhttp://blog.rot13.org/2006/09/how_to_import_subversion_into.html
20:20.08cladhaireyeah i've been reading it.
20:20.13ckknight_yacoob, in the TOC?
20:20.58Meyrinthat does not look pretty
20:21.26yacoobyes, also in toc
20:21.39yacoobstill, it looks a bit weird...
20:21.57Meyrinand I'm guessing it would tie up clad's computer for a day to run that job...
20:22.08nevcairielpossibly even more
20:22.14CIA-1703jncl * r11079 10oSkin/ (AddonFrames.lua InspectFrame.lua): oSkin: Fixed tabs on Inspect frame
20:22.17hyperChipmunk=D
20:22.29yacoobFuBar_uFriends\libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua\AceLibrary.lua
20:22.33yacoobwhy extra dir?
20:23.05ThraeWith regular OnUpdate scripts, is arg1 and elapsed both Blizzard-defined global values ?
20:23.12vhaarrso what was the consensus on AL 2.0/2.1 ?
20:23.12kergoth/home/World of Warcraft/Other$ svk sync //mirror/wowace
20:23.13kergothSyncing http://svn.wowace.com/root
20:23.13kergothRetrieving log information from 11031 to 11079
20:23.13kergothIncomplete data: Delta source ended unexpectedly
20:23.15kergoth:'(
20:24.31Meyrinnote to self: stay very far away from this channel lest I start rewriting Servitude Ressurection with Ace2
20:24.57cladhairekergoth: We had a rollback from 11003 to 11029
20:25.00cladhaireerr reverse that
20:25.08ckknight_Thrae, don't think elapsed is, arg1 is.
20:25.31Thraeckknight_: I was looking at StopTheLagness's code and don't see where Turan defines "elapsed".
20:25.42ThraeOh wait, there it is. Stupid me.
20:26.03Kaeltenelapsed is arg1
20:26.42ThraeKaelten: Turan uses elapsed and arg1 as seperate values, elapsed was a count of arg1.
20:26.46Zan`Meyrin you Ace servitude I love you long time
20:26.54ThraeSo what's a better name for elapsed? "timer"?
20:27.05vhaarrelapsed is a good name?
20:27.16Kaeltenthrae:  I rewrote stoptehlagness and embeded it inside of KC_Items
20:27.34SH|ShabadorHm... Does FuBar_CorkFu require FuBar-compat-1.2 ?
20:27.55Kaeltenhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/KC_Items/optimizer/optimizer.lua
20:27.55ThraeKaelten: OK, where can I find it? tooltiphooker or tooltip?
20:28.00ThraeAh, gotcha.
20:28.55Kaeltenelapsed is just a culmative value of arg1s
20:30.44ThraeKaelten: button = button or this? I would think "if not button then button = this end" is faster since it doesn't have to do an unnecessary assignment. Even if Lua is smart enough to check if button is being assigned to itself, it would still need to do an AND in addition to the OR.
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20:31.10ckknightfor a hunter, should I be an orc or a troll?
20:31.18Kaeltenthrae: ya probabily, I was on a OR kick at the time :)
20:31.22nevcairielnightelf, ckk
20:31.23nevcairiel:)
20:31.31ckknightnevcairiel, sorry, I play Horde
20:31.35Thraeckknight: PvE, Troll. PvP, Orc. +25% resist to stuns...
20:31.35Nightdewwhat happened to yer warlock ckknight
20:31.44ckknightNightdew, *shrug*
20:31.52ckknighthrm...
20:31.53Nightdewno fun huh
20:32.05ckknightI got tired of it, I guess :-P
20:32.13Nightdewhehe
20:32.21ckknightI really need to just stick with one guy.
20:32.33ThraeKaelten: Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes I get onto weird coding habits and come back and say to myself, "WTF was I thinking?!"
20:33.04nevcairieli guess everybody has that
20:33.13Kaeltenhehe
20:33.23Nightdewesp.. when its late ;)
20:33.35yacoobso, noone uses this uGuild and uFriends thing? :)
20:33.45Nightdewwhoever woke up the next afternoon .. and dont understand their own code anymore.. cause it was too advanced ;)
20:34.00yacoobNightdew: I have that sometimes.
20:35.59XuerianYacoob, I tried them and dropped them in favor of a afk/gmotd modded GuildFu (fu1.2), it doesn't show enough info for me and if it did, it'd be near as laggy as the latest GuildFu
20:36.35Shyvafixing a addon I made like 6 months ago, but never finished it.. I don't understand what I did back then.. :-s
20:37.18kergothcladhaire: ah.. hmm.. wonder how i fix that in svk :)
20:37.29cladhairekergoth: PM =)  PING :P
20:38.38SH|Shabadormmm. Does this mean anything to you guys...?
20:38.40SH|Shabador[2006/09/16 22:37:08-362]: FuBar_CorkFu\Core.lua:132: Cannot access key "Blessing of Might" in db table. You may want to use db.profile["Blessing of Might"]
20:38.40SH|Shabador<in C code>: in function `error
20:38.40SH|ShabadorAceDB\AceDB-2.0.lua:468: in function <...erface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\libs\AceDB\AceDB-2.0.lua:349>
20:38.40SH|ShabadorFuBar_CorkFu\Core.lua:132: in function `SetFilter
20:38.40SH|ShabadorFuBar_CorkFu\Core.lua:178: in function `func'
20:38.44SH|ShabadorDewdrop\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:468: in function <...ce\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\libs\Dewdrop\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:421>
20:39.01vhaarrlern2pastebin?
20:39.05Tekkubdamn pallies
20:39.13Tekkubstupd blessings
20:39.17SH|ShabadorHehe. Sorry about ze spam. :)
20:39.19evlgaaaah
20:39.24evlMSBT has glancing display now
20:39.24SH|ShabadorYeah, those blessings are evil
20:39.34evljust realized how fucking gimped Seal Fate without +weap is in high end PVE :(
20:39.46FISKER_QQQ :(
20:39.57evlLose all my toys if I respec to daggers
20:40.20SH|ShabadorTekkub, Is there an easy fix for that?
20:40.29Tekkubno, I need to look at the code
20:41.03NeronixThere's a war for 1 millionth post in 4chan's /a/ going on
20:41.15Neronix300 posts to go
20:45.37Shyvaif (self.frames[id-s].mined) then, that live gives me this error: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value), id and s are both numbers.. I don't udnerstand why this gives an error :-/
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20:46.16cladhairekergoth: O.o
20:46.18Nightdewself.frames[id-s] == nil
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20:46.39nevcairielcolalight?
20:46.47Nightdewso index field .mined doesnt exist
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20:54.50evlAny rogues in high end guilds here? :P
20:55.15FISKER_Qaq40 at huhuran
20:55.25evlwhat spec you guys run?`
20:55.31evlAR and murder?
20:55.37FISKER_Qwe don't enforce specs
20:55.54evlclearly you're fucked without weap expertise
20:56.00FISKER_Qyeah
20:56.11yacoobheh, icehud is funny
20:56.20yacoobthings dissapear, but energy ticker stays up :D
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20:56.43sbuwtf is colalight? :p
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20:58.35sbuahh
20:58.38sbu## Notes: Sell value mod
20:58.39sbunice :o
20:59.05vhaarrwhat wardrobe mods do people use?
20:59.12vhaarrit seems AceWardrobe is still Ace1
20:59.19yacoobvhaarr: outfitter
20:59.27vhaarranything on the svn?
20:59.50Shyvayeah, outfitter is what I use, eats memory like cake, but it's good
21:00.23yacoobShyva: it has rather big mem footprint, but it doesn't go up.
21:00.36CIA-1703tekkub * r11082 10Metrognome/Metrognome.toc:
21:00.36CIA-17Metrognome
21:00.36CIA-17- TOC Update for Wiki
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21:01.05Shyvait does, ever used those bars with items when you press a item in you char view?
21:01.12vhaarrso there's no usable wardrobe addon on the svn?
21:01.24yacoobShyva: well, sane values for me :)
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21:01.40ShyvaDon't think so, ace-wardrobe is on wowinterface as far as I know vhaarr
21:01.47vhaarrright
21:01.47Shyvawait
21:01.51vhaarrmaybe it should just be deuced
21:01.52ShyvaI miss read what you just said =)
21:02.34FISKER_Qsone with a US account should post on the PTR forums and let hortus find out what happens if you got several epic mounts already
21:02.35FISKER_Q:(
21:02.57FISKER_Qsome*
21:03.32cladhaireFISKER_Q: what happens
21:03.36cladhaireand when?
21:03.55FISKER_Qthe mounts in 1.12.1
21:04.03FISKER_Qepic mounts are going to cost 100g
21:04.04*** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com)
21:04.24FISKER_Qbut riding skill will be changed so it costs like 90g for training to ride normal mounts and 900g for epic mounts
21:04.35cladhaireyeah
21:04.38FISKER_Qkinda messed up if you have several mounts though
21:04.39cladhairewhen does 1.12.1 go live?
21:04.45FISKER_Qdunno? a week or 2
21:04.51cladhairei need to buy mine before then :P
21:05.03FISKER_Qdoesn't matter
21:05.05vhaarrFISKER_Q: will you only need 1 riding skill for all mounts then?
21:05.07grzesieqgod that I rolled a warlock
21:05.11FISKER_Qgonna be the same cost regardless
21:05.11grzesieqgood, even
21:05.15FISKER_Qvhaarr yeah
21:05.22grzesieqhmm
21:05.29FISKER_Qyou're gonna get Apprentice and Journeyman riding
21:05.33vhaarrand people who have it will not need to buy it again, obviously?
21:05.45FISKER_Qpeople who have an epic mount doesn't need to buy it again
21:05.48Shyvais there a epic riding skill at the moment? (only got lvl 40 mount..)
21:05.51FISKER_Qit's gonna work like this:
21:05.56grzesieqsay I have my dreadsteed now, if I want a horsey i'll get it for 80g? :D
21:06.10FISKER_QLevel 40 mounts grants you a 75/150 riding skill(the exception is the rank 11 pvp mount which also grants 150/150)
21:06.17FISKER_Qlevel 60 mounts grants you 150/150 riding skill
21:06.34FISKER_Qif you don't already have a 60 mount you'll have to pay 900g for the training in the next patch
21:06.53vhaarrgah
21:06.54cladhairedoesn't the AV ram cost less than 1000g?
21:07.01vhaarryes it does
21:07.03FISKER_Qyes
21:07.09FISKER_Qbut it also have a hell of a rep grind attached
21:07.24FISKER_Qso it also gives 150/150
21:07.27SarozNeeeeeed more mounts
21:07.34FISKER_Qi got 3 mounts
21:07.39SarozI got....
21:07.41FISKER_QWhich annoys me since i've paid a lot for those mounts
21:07.41Sarozehh 5-6
21:07.42cladhairei have the rep grind
21:07.43Sarozor something
21:07.45cladhairewhich means i should buy it =)
21:07.52FISKER_Qyes then it will be cheaper
21:07.56cladhairei just have to transfer my stuff.
21:08.13Saroz3 PVP mounts, 1 level 40, 1 level 60
21:08.19FISKER_QBut i need to know if they might have some reimbursement npc or something
21:08.29Sarozfor what?
21:08.30FISKER_Qcause it's kinda lame having paid like 2400g for 3 months
21:08.33FISKER_Qmounts*
21:08.41Saroznoone forced you
21:08.52nevcairielyeah, your own fault buying them :p
21:08.56FISKER_Qobviously
21:08.58Tekkubblizzard does not have a history of reimbersing players based on design changes, and they shouldn't
21:09.09SarozThey need to make a rank 14 mount :p
21:09.24Tekkubthey go on the assumption that you'll only ever have "need" for one mount
21:09.37Tekkubif you buy 3, well that's disposable income
21:09.42FISKER_Qthen atleast they should make the mounts vendorable again
21:09.46Tekkubyou disposed of it
21:09.51FISKER_Qsince they're also gonna get bop now
21:10.12Sarozyea, those 5g for vendoring it will be good
21:10.15nevcairielthey are bop now because you need exalted for mount-buying
21:10.18Tekkuboh thanks for reminding me, I need to mail that ram to my dorf
21:10.19Sarozyup
21:10.31FryGuy-ya it's kind of annoying.. if I want a different kind of mount, then i'll have to pay the 900 :/
21:10.34nevcairielbut no exalted for riding anymore
21:10.43FryGuy-but people who did it after the change will only need to pay 100
21:10.46FISKER_Qyeah i understand
21:10.48Sarozyea
21:10.49Sarozftw
21:10.54SarozGonna get all NE mounts :p
21:11.03FISKER_Qbut if i could atleast get some of the money back on my mounts i would be happy :)
21:11.03FryGuy-although I have the best kind of mount
21:11.06cladhaireits a good change
21:11.10Sarozyea it is
21:11.13FryGuy-"frostsaber" ftw :D
21:11.13FISKER_Qyeah
21:11.17nevcairieli dont want any alternativ mount, since i am ne anyway .. nothing else looks good :)
21:11.17FISKER_Qdefinately
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21:11.28FISKER_Qjust a bit sour change for the people who already invested in it earlier than anyone else
21:11.30FISKER_Q:)
21:11.33SarozI've used my PVP tiger mount forever
21:11.44FryGuy-it's a good change for future things, but it's bad for people who bought their mount 2 years ago
21:11.56Saroznot really
21:11.57FryGuy-like me :p
21:12.04FryGuy-no?
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21:12.10FISKER_Qof course it is
21:12.11Sarozthe only people who will "suffer" is the guys who got multiple mounts
21:12.16FryGuy-I'm assuming that in the expansion we'll need 225 riding
21:12.17FISKER_Qyup
21:12.22Sarozbut noone forced them to buy those mounts
21:12.28FryGuy-which means we'll have to pay the 90 gold, then the 900 gold, then the whatever for 225
21:12.42FryGuy-whereas people who get their epic mounts now, will only need to pay the stuff for 225
21:12.46FISKER_Qdoesn't really matter
21:12.59FISKER_Qnoone said they were gonna cost 10% of they would be in a later patch
21:13.06Sarozthe price for 1 mount is the same, the price for multiple mounts will be lower
21:13.17FISKER_Q90% lower to be exact
21:13.20Sarozyes
21:13.22FryGuy-it doesn't matter that people that bought their stuff early will have to repay it in the expansion?
21:13.24Sarozgo fish
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21:13.59nevcairieleverybody who has one or more epic mounts will get riding 150 autmagically
21:14.04Sarozye
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21:14.05FryGuy-is it?
21:14.09SilencerHello ppl :0
21:14.13nevcairielno advantage/disadvange for anyone in expansion
21:14.16Sarozindeed
21:14.19SilencerWhy SVN don't have info
21:14.25Silencerabout date and time when the new commite get out
21:14.27FISKER_Qbesides those who bought multiple mounts of course
21:14.31Silenceralso to see history of the old one ?
21:14.33cladhaireSilencer: What in the hell are you talking about
21:14.43cladhaire=)
21:14.49FryGuy-well from what the blue post said, it just implied that people with epic mounts would be able to ride them with the old skill
21:14.55FryGuy-and not get the 150 skill
21:14.58Sarozno
21:15.00Silencerem :)
21:15.00Sarozthat's wrong
21:15.09Silencercladhaire
21:15.11Sarozlike nev said, if you got epic mount now, you get 150
21:15.21Sarozfree
21:15.23cladhaireIf you're asking why we don't have a WebSVn running right now.. there are a number of reasons
21:15.40Silencercladhaire, like that :)
21:15.45Silencerwant to see the commited linez
21:15.47Silencerin new files
21:15.48FryGuy-For current players with mounts there will be a seamless transition to the new system. You will continue to have your mount; you will continue to be able to use it, etc.
21:15.54FryGuy-didn't see the second post
21:15.58FryGuy-If you have an epic mount you will get the journeyman riding skill. As I said it is a seamless transition for everyone that already has a mount. You will be where you're at now as far as being able to ride and purchase mounts, and actually a bit better off since additional mounts will be much cheaper.
21:16.01cladhaireSilencer: Then look at the google group, http://groups.google.com/group/wowace
21:16.05FryGuy-in that case, it's a good change
21:16.18Sarozyup
21:16.36nevcairielif you spend your money on the luxury of having multiple mounts .. well .. sucks to be you then. :)
21:16.41CodayusHmm
21:16.47Sarozyup yup
21:16.49vhaarrdreyruugr: poke
21:16.55cladhaireI've bought 0 epic mounts.. this looks like the perfect time to buy one on my druid :P
21:17.09hasteI've bought three
21:17.15hasteon three chars tho'
21:17.16Silencercladhaire, ok thx for info :)
21:17.18CodayusWhere is the info on the changes?
21:17.23kergothhmm.. i havent bought an epic mount yet either, maybe i should get some cash together
21:17.43nevcairielif you dont have one yet, it doesnt really matter if you buy one now or after the patch
21:17.54FISKER_Qunless you get one from av
21:18.00nevcairielsure
21:18.07nevcairielyou save like 200g when you get the av one
21:18.08cladhairethe AV one is sexy too
21:18.14Saroznah
21:18.16Sarozrams suck
21:18.18nevcairielNE's look stupid on a ram
21:18.31FISKER_Qhorde ftw
21:18.37vhaarrthen again, all NE males look stupid
21:18.58cladhairei'm a tauren drood, so =)
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21:19.24nevcairieldont you have a ne priest? thought i saw some screenshot ..
21:19.30cladhaireyeah
21:19.41cladhaireNE priest, NE rogue, Tauren Druid, Dorf Hunter
21:19.51nevcairielDorf?
21:19.52vhaarrAnyone using Sprocket? I'm getting some weird error with it: [2006/09/16 23:13:36-1056]: FrameXML\ActionButton.lua:447: attempt to index local `button' (a nil value), FrameXML\ActionButton.lua:447: in function `ActionButton_GetPagedID'
21:20.11cladhairethose are my 60's
21:20.15vhaarrGuessing it's a hook gone wrong.
21:20.45nevcairiel60's .. only my NE druid there. 56 warlock .. maybe i will get him to 60 .. one day..
21:21.09vhaarrDorf Priest, Gnoem Warlock, Gnoem Rogue, Gnoem Warrior at 60
21:21.11vhaarr<3 gnoems
21:21.17SarozI got 2 level 60 paladins, gg :)
21:21.21vhaarrhaha :D
21:21.26vhaarrwhy?
21:21.29nevcairieltwice the same class? thats weird:)
21:21.30Saroz1 was on PVP
21:21.32Kaeltenfor those who didn't get it :
21:21.33Kaelten[16:18] Private: -christel- [Global Notice] On the 12th September Rob Levin, known to many as Freenode's lilo, was hit by a car while riding his bike. He suffered head injuries and passed away in hospital on the 16th. For more information please visit #freenode-announce
21:21.33Sarozhated it, so I rerolled PVE
21:21.38Kaeltensad moment :(
21:21.47Silenceridd :<
21:21.50Sarozyea saw it
21:21.52vhaarrouch
21:21.57nevcairiel:(
21:22.59Shyvadamn :-/
21:23.08hyperChipmunk>8\ yea
21:24.22Sarozman
21:24.26Saroza lot of idiots joining that channel
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21:25.08FISKER_Qyeah especially that FISKER_Q guy
21:25.11FISKER_Qcreeps me out
21:25.14vhaarrhrm, basically, if you have anything else trying to hook UseAction, like Squishy, oCD or Consumer, then Sprocket errors out.
21:26.38Industrialtried binding a mousebutton to WorldFrame yet?
21:26.48Industrialeverything locks up cant click anything anymore
21:26.49Industrial;)
21:26.54nevcairiellol
21:27.03vhaarrwhich is pretty bad, since Consumer + Sprocket is the perfect combo
21:27.08Industrialwith Sprocket*
21:28.10nevcairielsome time back while i played with DFM i added a new worldframe or something, had some small world rendering in the center and everything was broken :P
21:28.20hyperChipmunk[Silentrogue] yells: i need linen!
21:28.21Industrial:o
21:28.22hyperChipmunk[Brusair] yells: hardly fucking silent are ya'?
21:28.28Industrialhehe
21:28.38vhaarrhaha
21:28.39IndustrialI once had more then 500 linen
21:28.42Industrial>_o
21:28.46Industrialcloth*
21:29.01Industrialand I sold it big time
21:29.06IndustrialBAM gs flying it
21:29.07nevcairielwe farmed linen like .... for that aq event thing
21:29.07Industrial:p
21:29.13Industrialin*
21:29.29Industrialgo to ragefire chasm
21:29.36Industrialthe monkeys drop linen like mad
21:29.37tumetomfor all update-addicted-people : http://raidorg.lagcity.de/Addons/index.php
21:29.44Industriallike 3-4 per monkey
21:29.47FISKER_Qstupid redundancy
21:29.48Industrialor w/e they are
21:29.51FISKER_Qopening cmd to open calc
21:30.06nevcairielragefire chasm .. you know .. its not that easy for alliance to get in there :)
21:30.24vhaarrsure it is
21:30.28vhaarrjust walk in :)
21:30.32Industrialyeah
21:30.44FISKER_Qjust as easy as it is to get from dun morough to stormwind as horde
21:30.49FISKER_Qvia ironforge ofc
21:30.50Industrialgo from back of org with a horsey and just walk in..
21:30.59vhaarrindeed, easy as pie
21:31.11FISKER_Qoh
21:31.14FISKER_Qthen it's actually easier
21:31.19FISKER_Qkeep forgetting the backdoor :)
21:31.21Industrialyeah
21:31.22vhaarr:D
21:31.27vhaarralliance don't forget it :P
21:31.30yacoobHm.
21:31.31nevcairielplus, my only 60 is a heal-spec druid .. thats not fun farming :D
21:31.38Industrialhehe
21:31.53yacoobAll those /commands are somewhat cumbersome, when you have new addon, and small chatbox
21:31.55Industrialdoesnt druid have this bear PBAoE attack?
21:31.57vhaarrwtb fixed Sprocket
21:32.18Industrialor maybe its a cone
21:32.18nevcairielyeah, but you wont get enough rage from that lowlvl mobs
21:32.20Industrialdno
21:32.27yacoobwasn't there something for ace that put all those options into a nice gui?
21:32.39nevcairielits a simple attack which hits 3 enemys.
21:32.43IndustrialAceCommander or something
21:32.44Industrialah ic
21:32.53vhaarryacoob: DeuceCommander
21:32.56nevcairielinstant, but 15 rage i think
21:33.03Industrialwell one hit one kill just run around and pick up 50 hget hit get aggro and kill em all
21:33.04Industrial:P
21:33.27Industrialwas with this druid once in deadmines
21:33.36Industrialhe only used that throughout the whole thing
21:33.40nevcairieli still dont know if i should spec feral or balance for leveling in bc
21:33.41Industrialdidnt stop o_o
21:33.47GwieFsomething that would be useful in sprocket would be the ability to have the preaction always occur regardless of anything else.. and idealy as soon as you pressed the key
21:34.16Industrialim not going to use sprocket in combat I think
21:34.29Industrialor you will have to know the spell positions really well
21:34.29Industrial..
21:34.59Industrialjust for clearing my bars up, summons trackings etc
21:35.00GwieF1st thing I tried with it on my hunter was making the preaction be feign death then have the traps as menu options.. but it doesn't work :/
21:35.13FISKER_QThe best feature in MSBT is "KILLING BLOW! (name)"
21:35.24FISKER_Qneeds audio though :P
21:38.17Sarozmeeeh
21:38.21Sarozassert failure in SCL
21:38.44FISKER_Q(23:18:42) -christel- [Global Notice] On the 12th September Rob Levin, known to many as Freenode's lilo, was hit by a car while riding his bike. He suffered head injuries and passed away in hospital on the 16th. For more information please visit #freenode-announce
21:38.44FISKER_Q:/
21:38.53Sarozread above
21:38.57Sarozalready posted
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21:39.23FISKER_Qoh didn't see that
21:39.45FISKER_QI hope the driver wasn't drunkdriving or anything like that
21:39.50ckknighthrm, lilo got hit
21:39.51ckknightthat's too bad
21:39.54FISKER_Qi hate when people die over stuff like that
21:40.21Saroz"Color skill by Element" fires an assert in core.lua line 620 when casting a heal
21:40.41ckknightdon't take me to be apathetic, I'm just rather accepting of death
21:40.52Industrialomg? lilo died?
21:40.57hyperChipmunkyea
21:40.59ckknightapparently.
21:41.09IndustrialMY WORLD HAS COME TO AN END!!!!!!111
21:41.11hyperChipmunk17:18 [freenode] -christel(i=christel@freenode/staff/gentoo.christel)- [Global Notice] On the 12th September Rob Levin, known to many as Freenode's lilo, was hit by a car while  riding his bike. He suffered head injuries and passed away in hospital on the 16th. For more information please visit #freenode-announce
21:41.17Saroz....
21:41.25NeronixHoly shit
21:41.27ckknightnot Saroz too!
21:41.32NeronixWorse still, I heard it on #4chan
21:41.32SarozPOST IT MORE TIMES PLX
21:41.43hyperChipmunkno
21:41.45ckknightprobably not
21:41.47SarozOmfg guys, did you read it?
21:41.47Saroz23:18:40 | -christel- [Global Notice] On the 12th September Rob Levin, known to many as Freenode's lilo, was hit by a car while riding his bike. He suffered head injuries and passed away in hospital on the 16th. For more information please visit #freenode-announce
21:41.57hyperChipmunkSaroz: id asked
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21:42.31SarozI bet it was microsoft
21:42.44SarozLike that movie antitrust
21:42.53Angeris_sucky movie
21:42.58Angeris_hmm
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21:43.23SarozRophy
21:43.39Saroz~seen Rophy
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21:44.18FISKER_Q(23:18:42) -christel- [Global Notice] On the 17th September Industrial, known to none as ?. Finally passed away.
21:44.21FISKER_Qor something like that
21:44.39SarozThat's harsh
21:45.01vhaarrckknight: Could this be AceHook's doing? I'm not sure if it's caused by Sprocket or not; if you have an addon hooking UseAction (along with Sprocket, but it doesn't hook it), it errors with "FrameXML\ActionButton.lua:447: attempt to index local `button' (a nil value)"
21:45.05FISKER_Qyeah :(
21:45.08FISKER_Qeveryone loves Industrial
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21:45.39vhaarrgah, it's probably Sprockets fault
21:45.52Industrial(23:18:42) -christel- [Global Notice] On the 17th September Industrial, known by a few, DIED A HORRIBLE DEATH. The suicicide tape is in our hands, get it at #feds.
21:46.14SarozI'm bringing sexy back, btw
21:46.25Industrialsorry couldnt think of something worse in such a short time :(
21:46.26FISKER_Qheh
21:47.43Sarozyou fail
21:47.45FISKER_Qwe forgive you
21:47.47FISKER_Qatleast you died
21:48.29Laricwho is doing fuxpfu?
21:48.53FISKER_Qi'm totally tapping it's ass
21:48.53CIA-1703thrae * r11084 10FixMe/ (. FixMe.lua FixMe.toc):
21:48.53CIA-17FixMe -- Initial import. FixMe! tries to fix various problems with the Blizzard
21:48.53CIA-17UI. So far, it has absorbed StopTheLagness (better tooltip management with
21:48.54CIA-17ContainerFrame), fixes the BattlefieldMinimap from disappearing unexpectedly,
21:48.54CIA-17and sets ChatFrame1 as your focus upon login. The addon disables itself with
21:48.54CIA-17each new WoW patch.
21:49.16Sarozuhhhh
21:49.41NeronixLaric: Wobin
21:49.57ckknight_good idea, Thrae
21:49.58ckknight_will test.
21:50.58FISKER_Qbtw was is it in the blizzard ui that causes that massive amount of memory usage when getting a tooltip?
21:51.21ThraeFISKER_Q: Yes, part of ContainerFrameItemButton
21:51.29ckknight_lol, Thrae, you messed up localization
21:51.33Sarozsomeone send that shit to Slouken
21:52.09Industrial=P
21:52.12CIA-1703ckknight * r11085 10FixMe/FixMe.lua: FixMe - fixed localization
21:52.33ThraeDammit, you beat me to it
21:52.56IndustrialAnyone wanna compare his addons to me? I wanna know what other people are using and browsing the addon sites isnt going to work. This being this channel is going the obvious in the overlappings but anyhow
21:53.10Industrialhttp://pastey.net/843
21:53.12Sarozchatmod
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21:53.21ckknight_Thrae, why don't you use Ace2?
21:53.29Sarozseriously
21:53.32SarozI tried with idChat
21:54.11Sarozbut noh
21:54.18Sarozchatmod ftl, but it does the job
21:54.32ckknight_I use Minimalist
21:54.34nevcairielIndustrial: no unitframes?
21:54.40Industrialno
21:54.46Industrialhastewont fix oUF2
21:54.47Industrial:<
21:55.05Thraeckknight_: Because FixMe is suppose to deal with the raw code. I don't want to have to worry about problems with other people's code in an addon designed to fix errors. My other addons use Ace2, just not this one.
21:55.05nevcairielmine seems so damn long :/
21:55.08ckknight_Thrae, fair enough
21:55.09Industrialwith its dewdrop I cant configure it correctly
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21:55.24ckknight_I like agUF
21:55.41Industrialmetoo but it was a bit too big
21:55.54Industrialthe new ouf will be good :>
21:55.57hyperChipmunkoUF wfm
21:56.07NeronixIndustrial: The whole slider thing?
21:56.16NeronixI can fix that, but I have no time right now :<
21:56.23Industrialyes
21:56.24Industrialthat
21:56.34GalkaDoes Fubar_ExperienceFu also track Reputation?
21:56.36ThraeOh, does anyone here do BGs? I remember having a problem whispering people from another server, sometimes the server name would get appended twice.
21:56.37nevcairielwhat was that dir command to only list the folder names?
21:56.41yacoobbleh.
21:56.47yacoobthe bg minimap is bulky :/
21:57.00yacoobwasn't there something to alphablend the unneccessary parts?
21:57.05CIA-1703ckknight * r11086 10FixMe/FixMe.lua: FixMe - got rid of all-encompasing if-then-else block, replaced with if-then-return-end ...
21:57.14hyperChipmunkthe game does it automatically
21:57.27hyperChipmunkyou only need to hide the frame bg
21:57.41Thraeckknight_: Is that faster in Lua?
21:57.42ckknight_I think I'm done for now with FixMe :-P
21:58.04Maldiviahmm, anyone can tell me, why AceLocale 2.1 has to call error in it's metatable __index function, fucks up all code where you're trying to enumerate global frames (checking type(frame[0]) == "userdata")
21:58.27ckknight_Thrae, probably not, but the structure is cleaner, and indentation is correct now.
21:58.55ckknight_Maldivia, when dealing with that, you have to use rawget
21:59.03CIA-1703krtek * r11087 10idChat2_UrlCopy/idChat2_UrlCopy.toc:
21:59.03CIA-17idChat2_UrlCopy
21:59.03CIA-17<PROTECTED>
21:59.16Silencercan i use standalon ace2
21:59.21Silencerand delete libs in ace2 addons
21:59.40CIA-1703krtek * r11088 10idChat2_Who/idChat2_Who.toc:
21:59.41CIA-17idChat2_Who
21:59.41CIA-17<PROTECTED>
21:59.50yacoobhyperChipmunk: which frame would that be?
22:00.47Maldiviackknight: problem is, it's the AceLocale 2.1 that's breaking other addons, without those addoes even using that lib
22:01.20ckknightalright
22:01.38ckknightI'm not going to fan flames, that got me in trouble before.
22:01.55vhaarrckknight: so, are we supposed to transition to AL2.1?
22:02.04ckknightno
22:02.09nevcairielIndustrial: http://ace.pastey.net/844
22:02.22eternally777I'd recommend you report it to Kaelten, Maldivia.  If I see him on tonight, I'll tell him too.
22:03.02Maldiviaeternally: got a bit frustrated, when AceLocale popped up with an error message, everytime I used /dump in a table
22:03.29FISKER_Qhaha vhaarr
22:03.30FISKER_Qlike
22:03.34FISKER_QAnduinLothar2.1
22:03.48vhaarr:P
22:03.54FISKER_QThe mod to automatically bloat your other addons
22:04.19eternally777Maldivia, yeah, I'm sure he'll fix it as soon as he finds out about it.
22:04.25ckknightlol
22:04.28ckknighthe already knows
22:04.43ckknightafaik, he saw it as a bug in Iriel's code, not his own
22:04.51Maldivialol
22:05.07ckknightit's fixed in AL-2.0, though. just check if the key is 0, and let it pass through as nil
22:05.07AngerisSaroz
22:05.36yacoobhyperChipmunk: not BattlefieldMinimapBackground... :)
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22:09.17CIA-1703ammo * r11089 10PinPoint/Core.lua: PinPoint: fixed something I think.
22:10.18Industrialnevcairiel; AnzacHoldem, BonusScanner?
22:10.42nevcairielAnzacHoldem is a poker game for the raid-brakes :D
22:11.00nevcairielBonusScanner is the library for ItemBonusesFu
22:11.34CIA-1703thrae * r11090 10FixMe/FixMe.lua: FixMe -- BattlefieldMinimap will now only show if you have the option enabled.
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22:12.09vhaarrSo this FixMe stuff is actually worth it?
22:12.11vhaarrwrt the gametooltip
22:12.56GalkaAce2Withdrableh
22:13.41ThraeFrom the description, "Fixes various problems with the current interface without adding enough overhead to make it prohibitive."
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22:23.36Laricfuxpfu is a real memory hog... 4.2 kib/s
22:24.19Nickenyfikenhmm it is?
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22:25.03XuerianSince when? I run at 0.0-0.6 with it and everything else, solo
22:25.19Laricbeen constant for me all night..
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22:25.47Laricaccording to teksupport it is using 4.2kib/s all night.. tried reloading etc.. exactly the same
22:25.58Thumannhi guys.. soo.. creating a dropdown menu for dummies.. :> can i get a hand?
22:26.11vhaarrjust ask
22:26.43Thumannwell.. i'm looking for an easy to grasp example.. and by that i mean.. 'even my mother can do this'
22:27.01HealthHeh.
22:27.04Thumannsince this has been the hardest part yet for me in lua coding.. hehe.. creating a damned drop down menu -_-
22:27.10HealthThat sounds like "write me a dewdrop!"
22:27.30ThumannHealth: more like a.. write me a 'hello world' dewdrop :>
22:27.48Health:)
22:28.04NeronixLaric: Look at how many times it's run
22:28.28nevcairielThumann: is your addon using Ace2 already ? :)
22:28.33NeronixIt's thing only runs occasionally
22:28.50yacoobhm
22:28.57Laricthe weord thing it was running all the time when i was in RoAQ earlier
22:29.01yacoobwhy svn.wowace.com/files/ stopped updating on 12th? :)
22:29.07Thumannnevcairiel: adding it right now.. only had dewdrop added
22:29.12XuerianYacoob: SVN issues.
22:29.16XuerianIt won't be up till SVN is stable again.
22:29.23vhaarryacoob: -> topic
22:29.26Laricyacoob cladhaire had to rebuild the svn and isnt ready with the files thing yet
22:29.29yacoobAh.
22:29.49yacoobETERMINALNOTWIDENOUGH :)
22:30.11hyperChipmunkpeople use eterm?
22:30.28ThumannAce2-r10851.zip  would be the newest?
22:30.38vhaarrno, not really
22:30.43vhaarrbut yes
22:30.49GalkaAce2WithdraCant wait til the zips start up again
22:30.58GalkaAce2WithdraQuivering in anticipation at all the updated goodies
22:31.03GalkaAce2WithdraCorkFU :D
22:31.08Tekkub:P
22:32.13Azurewrathmhm.. is there any mod that blocks those "xxx has joined the raid group" messages after a battleground join and leave? It always spams all text away.. :/
22:32.46Tekkubsystem message control tool?  someone needs to ace that damn thing
22:32.48Laricwhy can I choose /fuxpfu profile on some chars and not on others? something about ace2 I have missed?
22:33.22Nickenyfikeni have the same problems with profiles in general
22:33.29Nickenyfikennot working very good :-/
22:33.43yacoobhyperChipmunk: people use putty :P
22:33.59LaricNickenyfiken thats why I am asking.. can't quite understand why it is shown on some.. and not on others
22:34.14yacoobhyperChipmunk: btw, have any idea about this bgminimap frame? hunting with visor gave nothing, guessing gave nothing as well
22:34.42Laricany of the ace2 gurus who can explain how the profiling system works? In general terms i mean
22:35.41Nickenyfikenon some chars i can use a profile but when i try to copy another profile from another char it just bugs out
22:35.41Health~seen claddieboy
22:35.56purlHealth: i haven't seen 'claddieboy'
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22:37.19hyperChipmunkyacoob: no, I don't use it personally =p
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22:37.36vhaarrevl: poke
22:37.55yacoobhyperChipmunk: bah, you gave me only a half of a fishing pole! :D
22:39.11JavekHow do you localize the keys in the args table for AceConsole?  So for args{  show = { type = 'execute'...    How would I localize the word show?
22:39.57ckknightThrae, I had already changed it back.
22:39.59vhaarrargs = { [L["show"]] = { type = ... } }
22:40.04vhaarrJavek ^
22:40.09ckknightoh well.
22:40.15ThraeBah, I was trying to be civil.
22:40.30Javekvhaarr: thanks
22:40.47WobinJavek: why customise those?
22:40.50Wobiner localise?
22:41.03Wobinthey're only variable names
22:41.15Wobinit's the 'name' that's shown to the users
22:41.41Xuerianyacoob, as for the bgmap, do you have a copy of framexml yet?
22:42.14Laricwobin in fuxpfu you are registereing a metro with metro:Register(self.name, self.Update, 1, self)
22:42.27Laricbut I cant find the update function??
22:42.43LaricI must be blind
22:43.00ag`Tekkub, any thoughts on the changes I've made?
22:43.01JavekWobin: For me it's using the key value for what you see in the AceConsole menu
22:43.03ckknightLaric, it's in FuBarPlugin-2.0
22:43.10Tekkubeh?
22:43.17ag`on Squeenix
22:43.26ag`don't know how much you use/maintain it anymore
22:43.34Laricckknight doh.. no wonder i cant find it :P
22:43.45TekkubI've not tinkered with it in a long time
22:43.48Tekkublemme update
22:44.08ag`You're still using it?
22:44.13ag`:)
22:44.39yacoobXuerian: *blink* I have no idea what you're talking about :)
22:44.45Azurewrathlol.. i replaced the Detox ding-sound with a murloc aggro sound locally.. thats sooo funny :)
22:44.47Laricag` will there be a totot frame in the future?
22:44.51Xuerianhm
22:44.53Xuerian~framexml
22:44.54purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p
22:44.57Azurewrathglabrglgla :D
22:45.00XuerianWoo ^_^
22:45.06Laric(targetoftargetoftarget)?
22:45.41XuerianYacoob, FrameXML is the default game interface packed into the game data files. Blizzard offers a extracted version of it every release, and you can extract it from the MPQ's yourself
22:45.41Laricag` will there be a totot frame in the future?(targetoftargetoftarget) in aguf i mean
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22:46.14CIA-1703tekkub * r11091 10Squeenix/Squeenix.toc:
22:46.14CIA-17Squeenix
22:46.14CIA-17- TOC fixes (way to overwrite my changes ag)
22:46.14JavekWobin: is there an option to supply to RegisterChatCommand() so it uses name instead of the key for the text?
22:46.56ckknightthe name?
22:46.58ckknightwhat do you mean?
22:48.00Thumanngood :>
22:48.23Wobinlike the slashcommand?
22:48.26Wobinyes
22:48.29ckknightLaric, targettargettarget can cause lag.
22:48.32ag`Laric, it's very possible
22:48.32Thumannso.. ace libs downloaded and added.. how many of them will i need if i just want to mess around with dewdrop?
22:48.44Wobinhm
22:48.45ag`ckknight, oh?
22:48.46Wobindewdrop
22:48.57Wobinif you're using 1.0
22:49.07ckknightyes
22:49.08WobinAceLibrary et al if you're using 2
22:49.26ckknighttargettargettarget has to change targets in game (in C, mind you), but it can cause serious lag
22:49.30Thumann2.0
22:49.46ckknightThumann, check the top of the Dewdrop-2.0.lua file
22:49.49ckknightit says the dependencies.
22:49.51Thumannthanks
22:50.17yacoobXuerian: mhm, and within that I could hunt for the frame... will do it tomorrow.
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22:51.06ckknightThumann, every Ace2 library has that header
22:51.09ckknighthey amro
22:51.13amrohey
22:51.27Thumannckknight: found it.. just acelibaray
22:51.38ckknightthought so.
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22:52.13ckknightamro, well, Ace2 has two core libraries: AceLibrary (which handles versioning), and AceOO-2.0 (which provides an OOP framework)
22:52.25ckknightmost everything else is built on that.
22:52.52ckknightAceOO-2.0 provides practically all the features of a modern OOP framework
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22:53.30ckknightamro, tutorial: http://www.wowace.com/index.php/AceOO-2.0_Tutorial
22:53.46amrothanks again
22:53.50Laricckknight targettargettarget is very very nice when you are a mt healer :P
22:54.04ckknightLaric, not saying it isn't, just saying it can cause lag.
22:54.40LaricI guess it can.. another server trip to get the answer or?
22:55.06Thumanngood :) now.. and example with dewdrop? (http://www.wowace.com/index.php/Dewdrop-2.0) is gibberish to me.. aren't we binding it to the minimap there?!
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22:55.40ckknightLaric, basically.
22:55.49nevcairielyeah its on the minimap, it has to be linked to somethign :D
22:55.50ckknightThumann, yes.
22:55.51Nomad_WandererOkay.. going to try and uncosmos myself this evening...
22:55.58ckknightThumann, instead of minimap, use your own frame.
22:56.05ckknightI'm here for you, Nomad_Wanderer
22:56.10ckknightwe'll get through this
22:56.12ckknighttogether.
22:56.14Thumannckknight: i'll give it a shot then
22:56.17Thumann*again
22:56.21Nomad_WandererI really like archaeologist's numbers on the bars... What Ace addon does this
22:56.39NeronixTry BUFX
22:56.48NeronixIt's not on the SVN though
22:56.49nevcairielive really never used cosmos. maybe i should try it once just to know what those addons do.
22:57.09ckknightnevcairiel, don't go over to the dark side
22:57.13amrodont bother.
22:57.14Neronixnevcairiel: They eat kittens and put holes in space and time
22:57.18Nomad_WandererArchaeologist adds values on top of the standard blizzard frames bars..
22:57.20Neronixthat's all you need to know
22:57.33Nomad_Wandererso instead of just a green bar, you see a green bar with 4327 / 4327 on it
22:57.35amrocosmos is nice if you're completely new to wow
22:57.38ckknightbasically, Cosmos is similar to Ace2 as a framework, except it's coding style is a bit different and it's not as optimized.
22:57.52NeronixNomad_Wanderer: You might also want to try a unit frame replacement
22:58.02NeronixSuch mods replace all those frames entirely
22:58.09Nomad_Wandererand with all frameworks you get the best bang for your buck by just sticking to a single framework.
22:58.11Nomad_WandererI
22:58.13ckknightthere have been some bad parts in Cosmos, *shudder*
22:58.29ckknightand yes, I have read all of Cosmos
22:58.31NeronixAce is less about the framework itself and more about the community
22:58.37ckknightgood source of inspiration
22:58.39Nomad_WandererI'm sitting on two actually 3 frameworks.
22:58.42NeronixWe hate bad code
22:58.43Nomad_Wanderercosmos, ace, and ace 2
22:58.54ThianaAm I missing any embeded libs in this list? [ParserLib ProximityLib AceAddon-2.0 AceComm-2.0 AceConsole-2.0 AceDB-2.0 AceDebug-2.0 AceEvent-2.0 AceHook-2.0 AceLibrary AceLocale-2.0 AceLocale-2.1 AceModuleCore-2.0 AceOO-2.0 AceTab-2.0 Compost-2.0 Babble-Boss-2.0 Babble-Class-2.0 Babble-Race-2.0 Babble-Spell-2.0 Babble-SpellTree-2.0 Babble-Zone-2.0 RosterLib-2.0 Metrognome-2.0 Tablet-2.0 Dewdrop-2.0 FuBarPlugin-2.0 Crayon-2.0 Abacus-2.0
22:58.54Thiana<PROTECTED>
22:58.55ckknightI took a few of the ideas, and used em to make things that are awesome
22:58.57NeronixAnd we help each other out
22:59.08ckknightThiana, Statistician
22:59.17Thianackknight: Thanks :)
22:59.22NeronixWhich only Kael will probably use
22:59.22haste;o
22:59.25Nomad_WandererAs I committed more and more to ace, I was able to drop a whole lot of cosmos, so now I want to replace the 3-4 addons that are coming from cosmos with ace replacements.
22:59.36Neronixsince most of the methods in there are from KCI's common file
22:59.41ckknighte.g. AceComm took ideas from Sky and Telepathy. Granted, I didn't take any of the code, just some of the features
22:59.44Neronixwhich he told me to steal from
22:59.45Thumannhmm.. Attempt to call global 'AceLibrary' a nil value..
22:59.49Thumanni have added it to my toc
22:59.53ckknightand then Telepathy took ideas from AceComm afterwards
22:59.53ckknighthehe
22:59.58ckknightThumann, restart WoW?
23:00.00NeronixThumann: Must be first to load
23:00.11Thumannjust did
23:00.13Thumann:(
23:00.26ckknightThumann, check the logs?
23:00.48Thumannand the task of spelling 'Libs' is to hard for me
23:00.49Thumann-_-
23:00.58nevcairielhah
23:01.50Thumanngood.. next error.. cannot find a library instance of DewDrop-2.0 ?
23:01.56ckknightDewdrop-2.0
23:01.59ckknightcase-sensitive
23:02.15Thumannlocal dewdrop = AceLibrary("Dewdrop-2.0")
23:02.19hyperChipmunkI do that all the time
23:02.21Thumann:(
23:02.37nevcairielsomeone should alias DewDrop ..
23:02.40nevcairieli do it as well
23:03.46ckknighthrm...
23:03.59Thumannis it called from somewhere else? can't see where i've written DewDrop
23:03.59ckknightwould case-insensitivity in AceLibrary be something worthwhile?
23:04.21ckknightah, I'm gonna say no, and lern2spell
23:04.21nevcairielbbl
23:04.39Thumannahh
23:04.42Thumannstupid me
23:04.46hyperChipmunkI always allow case-insensitivity on the user end
23:04.56hyperChipmunkbut in code, it looks sloppy
23:05.11eternally777SW Stats 2.0 Beta is out.
23:05.15eternally777In case anyone uses that.
23:05.34hyperChipmunkprogrammers expect Foo and foo to be different
23:05.39Meyrineternally777: will it bring my computer to a screeching halt faster than refresh monkeys on the Ace SVN?
23:05.51hasteprobably
23:05.54hyperChipmunkso it's confusing, too
23:05.59eternally777I'll get back to you on that, just installed it.
23:06.03hasteeternally777: I'm actually going to test it myself now
23:06.14hastesince I have to do some DPS test on my rogue
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23:06.22MeyrinI mean DamageMeters did a great job of killing my computer compared to SW Stats
23:06.58Thumannso.. bad argument #2 to 'open' (table expected, got nil) .. is this because i create my frame in the xml file.. instead of my lua file?
23:07.11Neronixhaste: DPS test?
23:07.14Neronix--> NanoStats2
23:07.19WobinMeyrin: Odd, I've heard that said about SW Stats =)
23:08.06Thumannhttp://www.wowace.com/index.php/Dewdrop-2.0 i used this example.. and got the error
23:08.06Nickenyfikenbah i cant use idactionbar with my warrior :-/
23:08.26Meyrinmeh, I should just /afk while raiding
23:08.38Meyrinwatch I'll still pull aggro somehow
23:09.23hasteeternally777: how is your damage meter coming :3 ?
23:09.24eternally777wtf is his addon doing in the addon raid channel...
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23:11.58eternally777Haste, lets just say I have a newfound respect for anyone who writes a combat log parser.
23:12.45WobinI don't even want to consider writing one =P
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23:13.11JensI've done something horrible :(
23:13.13MeyrinI'm sadly considering writing half of Servitude Ressurection >_<
23:13.47Neronixeternally777: Parserlib
23:13.56JensI've installed WoW again :/
23:13.58WobinJens: You've installed Discord Mods?
23:14.09HealthJens: you lost grib of your anal dildo?
23:14.12WobinWelcome back to the Dark Side
23:14.17JensI've been off it for 1½ months now :)
23:14.18Healths/grib/grip/
23:14.45WobinThat's not really 'doing something horrible' that's more 'having been done something horrible' =)
23:15.38JensI guess I need a new project now since /dev/null got hijack^H^H^H^H^H^H developed.
23:16.37JensCD to 1.12 patch it 456 MB!
23:16.43JensGawd.
23:16.52Jens*is
23:19.46WobinJens: ouch
23:19.59JensThe world is going to hell. Proof: You can *rent* Gucci and LV purses on the Internet.
23:20.27Wobinnah
23:20.38Wobinit's when you can rent Gucci knockoffs
23:21.15CIA-1703theondry * r11092 10SnaFu/ (Changes.txt SnaFu-enUS.lua SnaFu.lua SnaFu.toc readme.txt):
23:21.15CIA-17SnaFu
23:21.15CIA-171.81 11Sep06
23:21.15CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:21.16CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:21.16CIA-17<PROTECTED>
23:21.45Xuerianlern2pastebin. >.>
23:22.11eternally777SW_Stats 2.0 says I've done 20k more raw healing then DM.
23:22.37XuerianIs it counting overhealing? (Does DM discount it?)
23:22.45JensSo, has BG's gotten more fun in 1.12? Less queue time?
23:23.28CIA-1703cladhaire 07Ace2 * r11093 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaid.toc): PerfectRaid: It helps when you define functions, you use them. And it also helps if you don't declare them globally causing really bizarre errors all over the place. Thanks. - Love Clad!
23:23.46XuerianIt's less fun on Argent Dawn. AD-Horde is apparently some of the best out there, and now alliance doesn't even flinch in most matchups, used to be challenging =\
23:23.53CIA-1703saroz * r11094 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesLocals.lua): sRaidFrames: [currenthp]/[maxhp] syntax
23:24.26CodayusRaw healing includes overheal.
23:24.49CodayusIn SW_Stats
23:24.54XuerianAh
23:24.59JensI'm debating whether I should rejoin old guild. They're just starting BWL which might be fun. On the other hand, respeccing shadow and melting faces is fun too.
23:25.15XuerianWhy not do both? :P
23:25.26ckknightJens, Horde or Allies?
23:25.35JensAlliance.
23:25.46ckknightoh
23:25.51ckknightdon't know about BGs
23:25.55ckknightHorde has no queue
23:26.10JensAliiance sucks on Azjol-Nerub EU.
23:26.21ckknightnow whose fault is that?
23:26.29ckknighthrm?
23:27.06CodayusThe horde!  They should start sucking!
23:27.14JensI've played maybe 30 WSG's in my time, and I can remember winning twice.
23:27.17JensSame for AB.
23:27.46JensLosing to elite PvP guild is fine, but losing against random pugs is not alright.
23:29.18CIA-1703tekkub * r11095 10Acceptance/ (. Acceptance.toc Core.lua):
23:29.18CIA-17Acceptance - Initial Submission
23:29.18CIA-17- Simple mod, auto-accepts invites from friends and guildies.
23:29.51CIA-1703saroz * r11096 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.toc sRaidFramesLocals.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: Rename sRaidFramesLocals.lua to sRaidFrameOptions.lua
23:30.00SarozNice tekkub
23:30.04Sarozcan replace AutoGroup now
23:30.25JensUrgh... getting mods back to usable state is going to be hell.
23:30.40Wobinstart from scratch =)
23:31.16JensI saved my mods folder and saved variables... but it's just going to be broken in a million ways.
23:31.54JensSweet... all my fubar mods are v2 now.
23:32.12JensExcept for emotefu :/
23:33.20JensStopTheLagness ^_O
23:34.34ThraeWhat about StopTheLagness?
23:34.47Nomad_Wanderer<PROTECTED>
23:34.59JensTrying to read code to understand what it does exactly.
23:35.18hastethrottling tooltip updates on inventory items I think
23:35.47ThraeJens: It reduces the memory usage of tooltips on inventory items in the default bags. The new addon FixMe also includes its code, and it's non-Ace.
23:35.52eternally777By the way, Stopthelagness doesn't fix OneBag
23:36.09ThraeOneBag includes its own version of StopTheLagness I believe...
23:36.13JensNever used bag mods. I like seperate bags.
23:36.24Wobinit works for the standard bags
23:36.39XuerianEngBags is one thing I haven't been able to make myself live without =|
23:36.40Wobinit prevents more than one cooldown check on items that don't have cooldowns
23:37.09JensClever.
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23:38.09ag`pastamancer, you there?
23:38.14JensSo FixMe does the bag thingy and some other stuff.
23:38.21Sarozgonna get FixMe then
23:38.22Nomad_WandererI like EngInventory better than engbags, because engbags has a background icon for empty space that is confusing.
23:38.22Saroz:p
23:38.47XuerianNomad: You can disable the icon.
23:38.51Nomad_WandererHow?
23:39.15Xuerianer, I think it's in the big options page near the top, show empty slots? If you can't find it, I'll load it up
23:39.38SH|ShabadorNo, just right click somewhere within EngBags.
23:39.49Nomad_WandererI have it.. Just disabled. just enabled it and reloaded.
23:39.55SH|ShabadorSelect "Hide empty bag icons"
23:40.06XuerianAhhh. Shabador has it right. My memory sucks ^_^
23:40.43sbuhm Saroz - squishy integration in sRaidFrames doesnt work for me - whats wrong? %-)
23:40.55Sarozhow doesnt it work
23:41.01sbuoption is just grayed out
23:41.06Sarozenable borders
23:41.47Nomad_WandererHmm. what version? when I right click I do not see that
23:42.00sbuahhhh
23:42.03sbu%-)
23:42.14SH|ShabadorI'm using v1.5(u)
23:42.28SH|Shabadorhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4333-1-engbags-updated.html
23:42.51XuerianYeah, that's why I use EngBags, it's... well, updated =\.
23:42.57Nomad_WandererThanks :)
23:43.23SH|ShabadorBut it eats memory like crazy. It's stable with it's memory consumenment though
23:43.48hyperChipmunkengbags...the update to enginv that actually made it MORE bloated
23:43.52SH|ShabadorTried OneBag and Bagnon... Nothing can beat EngBags when it comes to design/functionality... ^^
23:44.04sbuSH|Shabador: ACK
23:44.10Nomad_WandererAgreed. I've enen tries mr. plow
23:44.13Xuerianlol, Hyper. It's my little (read: big) indulgence :)
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23:45.09Nomad_Wandereroops double entry :)
23:45.22CIA-1703tekkub * r11097 10FuBar_CorkFu/Core.lua:
23:45.22CIA-17FuBar_CorkFu
23:45.22CIA-17- Fixed bug "FuBar_CorkFu\Core.lua:132: Cannot
23:45.22CIA-17access key ..."
23:45.34ckknightUndead Mage or Troll Mage?
23:45.46SH|ShabadorTekkub, was that the fix for the paladins?
23:45.57Thraehttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2252.0.html <-- please help test and give input for new additions.
23:46.05Tekkubmore than pally, but yes it should be fixed
23:46.09Tekkubverify it for me
23:46.15SH|ShabadorAh, cool. Gonna test it out now
23:48.21XuerianThrae, could you stick it somewhere people without SVN access can get to it, since /files doesn't have it? -_-
23:48.23sbuShow ChatFrame1 on login if you have ChatFrames enabled <-- NICE :o
23:48.46SarozJust installed
23:48.49vhaarrTekkub: my corkfu still has old externals set, btw
23:49.02vhaarrfbp-1.2 etc
23:49.04Tekkubyea I've not done the externals yet
23:49.10Sarozeeek
23:49.24ThraeXuerian: The zip takes a couple of minutes
23:49.41XuerianThrae: The zip is dead since the 12th.
23:49.47ThraeOh yeah.
23:49.50Xuerian<3
23:50.07CIA-1703saroz * r11098 10FixMe/FixMe.lua: FixMe: Syntax error
23:50.09Saroztsk tsk
23:50.57yacoobwhat a lovely name.
23:51.02yacoobI bet this addon is never finished.
23:51.12TekkubI think I may get in a new guild soley based on the fact that I started BigWigs
23:51.48Nickenyfikenhmm wich bars is used when changing warrior stance?
23:52.02Nickenyfikene.g. defensive stance what bar is that?
23:52.09Sarozlol Tekkub
23:52.12Sarozwhat guild is that
23:52.21Tekkubjust one an old guildmate is in
23:52.25Tekkubthey raid at 3am
23:52.30CIA-1703thrae * r11099 10FixMe/FixMe.lua: FixMe -- Merged updates.
23:52.31Sarozeek
23:52.42Tekkubso once I close the pool I'll try to get my work sched changed to nights :)
23:52.53Thraeyacoob: FixMe? It's already finished.
23:54.10Neebleris the zipping working on the SVN?
23:54.20XuerianNo -.-
23:54.35Neeblerthen does anyone mind zipping up the latest aguf please? :P
23:54.54NeeblerI don't have access since i'm not a developer
23:57.37SH|ShabadorTekkub, Worked like a charm
23:57.45Tekkubkay, thanks
23:58.14SH|ShabadorAre you going to get rid of the 1.2 compat dependancy btw? (Had to install it only because of Cork)
23:58.27SH|ShabadorKind of thought it was a FuBar2 mod
23:59.25eternally777Anyone know how to say "Do you understand?" in French?

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