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00:07.17CIA-1103maia * r10371 10Detox/Detox.lua: Detox: fix for range check problem, also fixing an impossible error related to player name being nil.
00:08.46eternally777How does one use compost inside of a library, if it's available?
00:09.23eternally777nvm, figured it out
00:09.25ckknight_well, for my libraries, I usually use my own cut-and-dry version
00:09.39eternally777Well, if you're going to answer go ahead
00:09.47eternally777Might as well make sure I figured out the right way
00:09.49ckknight_I just make two local functions: new() and del(t)
00:09.49phyberlocal something; if Compost then something = wibble("compost") else ZOMG end
00:10.12JoshBorkelocal new() return compost and compost:Acquire() or {} end
00:10.14ckknight_not nearly as many features, but it's faster and cleaner, imho
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00:10.35ckknight_and I'm talking about not using compost at all :-P
00:11.57ckknight_lemme post
00:12.13ckknight_http://pastey.net/639
00:12.53ckknightif you stick that at the top of your library, then you have localized table management. Which has its ups and downs
00:13.27CIA-1103rabbit * r10372 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (13 files): BigWigs: Naxxramas: Boss module console commands should have proper capitalization. Also nuke more deDE and whitsepace.
00:13.33ckknightit's good if you're doing a lot of recycling, but it's not worthwhile if you're just claiming a lot of tables without deleting
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00:13.51ckknighthey Tem
00:14.29Kaeltenon, a side note, I'd recommend that people use Compost, as its value grows with an economy of scales.
00:15.13Kaeltendon't use it for every table, just ones you use often
00:15.31Kaeltenerr reset often
00:16.09ckknightusing the small, localized version is great if you do heavy recycling (i.e. for every table you claim, you also destroy)
00:16.24ckknightbut Compost is useful if you're claiming more than what you delete
00:16.28ckknightor delete more than what you claim
00:16.42ckknightbecause the tables'd be shared among other addons which use it as well
00:17.09ckknightalso, I'd only really recommend using the localized version for libraries, Addons'd be probably better off using straight-up Compost
00:17.41Kaelteneven then I'd recommend the localized version shortcut if compost is present
00:18.24ckknightfun fact with Compost:
00:18.31ckknightCompost() is the same as Compost:Acquire()
00:19.16ckknightI added that in
00:19.25ckknightcould be handy
00:19.49eternally777And in the "localized" edition, "new()" replaces "{}"?
00:19.55ckknightyep
00:20.03ckknightand then just use t = del(t)
00:20.20ckknightlocal t = new()
00:20.23ckknightDoStuffTo(t)
00:20.26ckknightt = del(t)
00:20.30ckknightand you're golden
00:24.13LordRhyswwas wondering if I could get some advice in solving 2 minor issues I'm still having in my plugin?
00:25.15ckknightsure
00:25.36JoshBorketime for me to go home.  night all
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00:26.13LordRhysI loaded the relevant code in pastey here: http://ace.pastey.net/640-287s, I highlighted the 2 problems, one is with my options the other is an AceDB problem I think
00:27.10LordRhyserrors I got were: FuBar_FactionItems2Fu\\FactionItems2Fu.lua:282: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value)\nFuBar_FactionItems2Fu\\FactionItems2Fu.lua:282: in function `?'\nDewdrop-2.0\\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:1177: in function `FeedAceOptionsTable
00:27.37LordRhysand FuBar_FactionItems2Fu\\FactionItems2Fu.lua:360: attempt to index local `self' (a string value)\nFuBar_FactionItems2Fu\\FactionItems2Fu.lua:360: in function `GetItemTotals'\n
00:29.10ckknightcya all later
00:29.36ckknightand the problem is you use . instead of :
00:29.55LordRhysfor the sel?
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00:30.02LordRhysself?
00:30.53LordRhysso I should use self:db.
00:36.04CIA-1103kaelten * r10373 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua: Ace2 - a few small tweaks.
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00:38.32eternally777How do you register an event within a library?
00:38.45JoshBorkehola
00:39.10eternally777ooo I haven't tried "hola" yet
00:39.12eternally777ok, ty
00:39.24Kaeltenhiya JoshBorke
00:39.36eternally777ooo
00:39.38JoshBorkeeternally777: any time :-)
00:39.38eternally777I get it.
00:39.43eternally777:P
00:39.47Kaeltenyou have to require AceEvent or create your own frame and do it the old fashion way
00:40.12eternally777I'm trying to use Gratuity
00:40.35eternally777But I'm not quite sure if it's working
00:40.54Kaeltennever used gratuity so I'm not sure
00:47.46eternally777How do you require AceEvent?
00:48.10eternally777in a Library.  I'm looking at RosterLib as an example, because it registers raid events...
00:51.02Thianaeternally777: if not(AceLibrary:HasInstance("RosterLib-2.0")) then error("RosterLib is required") end
00:52.16eternally777That I got (using AceEvent-2.0 though), but whenever I try to do self:RegisterEvent, I get "attempt to call method RegisterEvent, a nil value"
00:52.52ThianaDid you embed AceEvent into your lib?
00:53.04eternally777Maybe.
00:53.17eternally777yes, actually I did.
00:53.49ThianaNo clue then :) Ask CK
00:57.36LordRhyshi all, could someone take a look at http://ace.pastey.net/642, trying to figure out why get and set does not work in optionstable.
00:58.40Arrowmastervhaarr: new vael module seems to be working fine, im the only person with the new one that syncs but no errors atleast
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01:04.21kergothTekkub: tekautorep should default setting the profile to character, and if the char isnt 60, disable the automatic switch to latest rep gain function by default
01:22.57CIA-1103phyber * r10374 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
01:22.57CIA-11Ă‚Denial2:
01:22.58CIA-11- Removed 'opt' table from the options. The few things that were contained there are now stored at the top leve of the SavedVars DB.
01:28.33eternally777nightdew, ping?
01:34.32Nightdeweternally777: i replied
01:35.27Nightdeweternally777: gotta go home
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01:41.00JoshBorkebye again all :-)
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01:43.36Jagobahlatest bigtrouble is broken
01:43.37Jagobah:(
01:49.37eternally777K Nightdew, ty
01:54.14CIA-1103phyber * r10375 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
01:54.14CIA-11Denial:
01:54.14CIA-11- Set default 'count' to 0 instead of leaving it as nil. This made the IncCount() function one line shorter.
01:54.49phyberthe old was was also irritating to look at.
01:56.04phyberanyone got an idea of what a FuBar icon for Denial should be?
01:59.46Arrowmasterhmm the new broodlord mortalstrike timer bars are 5 seconds too long
02:02.10KebinusanThe ms debuff only lasts 5 seconds?
02:04.50CIA-1103cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10376 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Fixed buffs.
02:05.49CIA-1103grimwald 07Grimwald * r10377 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/Optional/Buff.lua:
02:05.49CIA-11oRA2_Buff:
02:05.49CIA-11* the units' buffs are now indexed by the buff name
02:05.49CIA-11* metatable __index is used to look up buffs with (non-unique) texture paths (first match is returned)
02:05.49CIA-11* creating/freeing unit buff tables when a unit joins/leaves the raid
02:05.49CIA-11* PrintTimesLeft() re-written to use new table setup
02:06.11eternally777I apparently lost the timer bars for BigWigs...
02:06.28eternally777I can see the sparks, but not the bar textures
02:06.47Kebinusanumm? are you using that stupid !!!libraries thing cause that will cause that apparently
02:07.45eternally777Yeah, I am
02:10.03eternally777Wouldn't that indicate a compatibility issue with a newer version that needs to be fixed?
02:14.12frusit's a problem with the path for the candybars texture being too deep
02:14.41CIA-1103sole * r10378 10HostelBar/HostelBar.lua: HostelBar: fixed the kinda major anchor/titles bug
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02:16.31Solehai
02:16.38Solethe big bug is teh fixed ^_^
02:17.47phyberPerfectTargets has a weird alignment thing happening
02:17.49phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/Nefarian_ShadowFlame.jpg
02:18.04phyberit's like -----_________-----
02:21.18phyberbbl.
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02:34.31Solehmm
02:34.34Soleammo is afk huh?
02:38.05Kebinusanhmm I should give hostel another try
02:38.14Kebinusan4 anchors were a bit confusing though
02:38.25KebinusanId rather have one with all the different bars stacking or something
02:42.12Soleuhm
02:42.17Soleit can do that :)
02:42.20Sole<PROTECTED>
02:42.24Soleand they will all appear under 1 anchor
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02:43.57Tem|Workwhoops
02:44.01Tem|WorkSole, poke
02:44.15Kebinusanheh I thought I tried that and they all just stacked on eachother, I'll give it another go
02:45.01Solehai
02:46.45Tem|WorkSole, about how your spellDb is layed out
02:47.08Tem|WorkI think you'd find it to your advantage to put all the spells on the same level
02:47.31Soleyea I had it like that before
02:47.39Tem|Workand put the class in a field
02:47.46Soleyea I was considering that
02:47.55Solebut isnt that quite a bit of extra memory?
02:48.02Solehaving each spell have a class field?
02:48.13Tem|Worknot enough to matter
02:48.25SoleIm guessing looping through 10 elements is worse :(
02:48.38Soleyea Ill get onto it :)
02:48.43Soleits less code for me too
02:48.56Tem|Workright
02:48.57Soleone thing though, do you know how to set a candybar's width?
02:49.05Tem|WorkI don't
02:49.08Sole<PROTECTED>
02:49.11Tem|WorkI'm not sure that you can
02:49.15Soleammo only has internal functions for it
02:49.23Solebut not a SetCandyBarWidth()
02:49.39Tem|Workd'oh
02:49.42Soleyea :(
02:49.50Tem|Workbug him about it when he's around
02:49.54SoleI will
02:50.12Tem|Workalso, it appears that you are discarding the texture field on a spell
02:50.23jjungnickelphyber, what is displaying your curses duration?
02:50.39Tem|Work(by discarding, I mean not using it at all)
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02:51.00ThraeAnyone an expert on cell phones or cell phone reception? I'm trying to pinpoint the carrier with the best coverage in Maryland.
02:51.42Tem|WorkI hacked your code to make the spellDB texture field override whatever BabbleSpell returns
02:51.47Tem|Workand I added a few spells
02:51.55Solehmm
02:52.30Tem|Workbut I'm curious where you intend to put mob spells
02:53.03Tem|Work(I added lightening breath and magic reflection from the chimeroks out in ferelas)
02:53.19Solemob spells go under spellsdb
02:55.12Solewhat do you mean by Im discarding my texture field?
02:55.25SoleI dont even have one :P
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02:57.13Tem|Workaye, your comments at the top indicate one
02:57.34Tem|Workoh sweets you added interrupts
02:57.50Tem|Workanyone know what the time on earth shock is?
02:58.56Kebinusancooldown?
02:59.11Tem|Workno
02:59.17Tem|Workhow long it interrupts
02:59.58Kebinusann Instantly shocks the target with concussive force, causing 517 to 545 Nature damage.  It also interrupts spellcasting and prevents any spell in that school from being cast for 2 sec.  Causes a high amount of threat.
03:00.06Soleyea about interrupts
03:00.10Soleits kinda hacky
03:00.14Tem|Work:(
03:00.25Soleoh tem, those comments are outdated, I just deleted them :P
03:00.29Tem|Workheh
03:00.37Tem|Workwell, I suggest you add support back for texture
03:00.42Soleyea true
03:00.43Tem|WorkI could do it for you if you like
03:00.55SoleIll do it now
03:01.00Tem|Workalso, you need a place for mob spells
03:01.06Tem|Work"general" isn't gonna cut it
03:01.18Solejust spellsdb?
03:02.03Solei suppose I should make it less hacky also
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03:02.42Temsorry about that...
03:02.44Temfor some reason, my wireless card hates me
03:02.50Sole:(
03:02.58Temthe last thing I saw was "just spells db?"
03:03.55Soleyea
03:03.58Tem|Workand my response was "?"
03:04.07Tem|Workwhat do you mean by "just spellsdb?"
03:04.07Solewell why not just have the mob spells in the spellsdb?
03:04.15Soleif a mob casts a spell and its in the spellsdb then itl show
03:04.18Tem|Workright
03:04.24Tem|Workbut... it needs a heading
03:04.35Solesuppose
03:04.37Tem|WorkI have them in "general" atm
03:04.42Tem|Workbut it doesn't seem to fit
03:05.23Soleyea
03:05.29Soleill work on it
03:06.14Tem|Workok, time for me to go home
03:06.18Tem|WorkI'll be back in a few
03:06.23Solekk
03:13.09jjungnickelsole, latest revision still breaks for me like http://ace.pastey.net/647
03:15.25Solethe latest latest?
03:16.01CIA-1103hshh * r10379 10AcePlayerMenu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): AcePlayerMenu: use AceLocale-2.1 instead of 2.0
03:16.28jjungnickelthe latest latest as in r10378 : HostelBar: fixed the kinda major anchor/titles bug
03:16.44Solehmm
03:19.23jjungnickelsavedvars look interesting: HostelBarDB = nil
03:20.34Solewell wtf its working for me =\
03:21.05jjungnickelmhh
03:21.44jjungnickelmaybe savedvars gives a clue. tried moving yours and starting over with an empty one?
03:22.02Soleyea just delteed the HB saved vars
03:23.17jjungnickelmm
03:23.43jjungnickelalright, backing up whole interface/wtf
03:24.13Soleehh
03:24.18Solejust delted my saved vars
03:24.22Soleand entered WoW again
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03:24.24Solestill works
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03:24.46Solebtw it only saves variables in the saved vars once you change it from the intial default values
03:24.56jjungnickelthought so.
03:25.09jjungnickeli'll check with clean installation
03:25.19Solek
03:25.43KaeltenMikk: you still gone?
03:26.08jjungnickelyikes, i have too many addons, heh.  10k files :)
03:26.57TemSole, I'm getting spammed by this while running around in Un Goro
03:26.59TemHostelBar\HostelBar.lua:689: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value)
03:27.08jjungnickelthere you go.
03:27.14Tem(not even engaged with a mob)
03:28.10Temalso getting this one when I frostnova something
03:28.10Tem[2006/09/06 22:24:10-397]: HostelBar\HostelBar.lua:1011: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value)
03:28.24jjungnickellooks awfully familiar.
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03:28.36KaeltenhyperChipmunk: leave channel and come back in?
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03:30.08Kaeltencool it worked
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03:31.06Kaelten:)
03:31.50jjungnickelsame error with naked wow sole :(
03:32.39Soleblast
03:34.20SoleTem: theyre both related to the same problem
03:34.24Temaye
03:34.32Tem"type" is nil it appears
03:34.39Soleits because the self.anchors and self.titles isnt created
03:34.55Soletype shouldnt be nil
03:35.52SoleTem: look in the OnEnable code
03:35.52Solecan you see what Im doing wrong?
03:35.57SoleI initially had it in the OnInitialize
03:36.26Temwhat am I looking for?
03:37.01Soleline 403 and onwards
03:38.23Kaeltenwoot 40k posts !
03:38.24Kaeltenneat
03:38.25Kaelten:)
03:39.06TemSole, why not do that OnInitialize?
03:39.14SoleI did
03:39.32Solebut it still had the same problem
03:39.36Temiirc, OnInitialize is called immediately before the first time OnEnable is called
03:40.08Soleyea I wasnt sure, ammo said I should give it a go so I tried it
03:40.13Soleand it works on my end
03:40.49Temit looks to me like your local "type" variable is nil
03:43.14jjungnickelself.anchors is nil aswell, /hb anchors breaks too: [05:38-462]: HostelBar\HostelBar.lua:978: attempt to index field `Default' (a nil value)
03:43.15Soleturn on debug  /hb debug
03:43.29Soleim pretty sure "type" wouldnt be nil
03:43.57jjungnickel978 is if self.anchors.Default:IsVisible() then
03:44.23Soleyrp
03:46.23jjungnickelthis doesnt make sense
03:47.28Soletheoretically it should work huh
03:47.35Soleim confused also
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03:47.40jjungnickelyes.
03:48.04jjungnickelself.anchors.Default should be anything but nil
03:49.55Soleyea i know
03:50.01Soleim gonna try to replicate the problem on my side
03:54.37jjungnickelfixed
03:54.50jjungnickelpatch coming up
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03:57.01jjungnickelsole, http://ace.pastey.net/651
04:01.17PProvostHey all
04:01.37PProvostGot a question about a lua syntax thing that is confusing me.
04:01.59PProvostFrame:GetChildren() returns some kind of a list that isn't an iterator and isn't a table
04:02.05PProvostBut I can do this...
04:02.17PProvostlocal children = { MyFrame:GetChildren() }
04:02.25PProvostand now it is a table I can work with
04:02.40PProvostSo my question is, what does GetChildren() actually return?
04:04.03PProvostStrangely, type( myFrame:GetChildren() ) says it is a table, but I can't seem to treat it like one...
04:04.08PProvostVery annoying.
04:04.25Kaeltenit sounds like its returning a list of arguments
04:04.45Kaeltenlike return frame1, frame2, frame3, frame4, frame5, frame6, frame7
04:04.55Kaeltenat least thats the way you're describing it
04:05.24PProvostCan I iterate that without putting into a table like this: local children = { myFrame:GetChildren() } ??
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04:07.10Kebinusanwoot heigan dead, but I still hate that fight
04:07.25Kaeltenhrm, I'm tempted to say no.
04:11.57eternally777Grats Keb
04:12.07eternally777Loatheb will make Heigan fun for you.
04:12.13Solewow
04:12.14PProvostKaelten: Yep. I dug into it with table.foreach(t, f) and it looks like it is userdata. Table constructor will turn it into a table, but you can't access it otherwise.
04:12.27Solejjungnickel: I love you :)   that was such a stupid mistake
04:12.41Soleit was there because of the previous way I created the anchors
04:12.43KaeltenPProvost: thats kinda crummy , lol
04:13.01Kaeltenalmost like they just went unpack(children) at the end of the internal function
04:13.09SoleI had a name for each one like "HostelAnchorDefault", its easier to handle anchors and titles this way though :)
04:13.16jjungnickelsole, i thought so.
04:13.23Solethank you :)
04:13.44Kaeltenwell damn guys I've just discovered that some parts of the site don't look right in IE6
04:13.45Kaelten:s
04:13.55jjungnickelwell, i have to thank for this sweet addon :)
04:14.09Sole:)
04:15.15Arrowmasterah fuck were about to pull nef and we have 8 shamans in the raid =(
04:15.19Kebinusanheh, eternally777 Thaddius first :-)
04:16.15jjungnickelhmpf, we're happy to have spider wing clean for the first time :)
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04:16.53nyviawas wondering if anyone could help me out with Detox real quick
04:19.42jjungnickelthe key to an answer is a question.
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04:25.11hasteKebinusan: noes, Heigan is a cool fight :D
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04:26.56Solehey azurewrath, do you play on blackrock by any chance?
04:27.25jjungnickelsole, could support for the mage's fire vulnerability debuff be implemented (duration-wise, i'd like to see when i have to renew the debuff).
04:27.35Kaeltenanyone having the bug saying that No Translation for 0 is found.  go into DevToolsDump.lua and change line 390 to :if (type(rawget(v, 0)) == 'userdata') then
04:29.30ckknight__hey all
04:29.34ckknight__back
04:29.35hastehello
04:29.40ckknight__went to college again
04:29.52ckknight__just one class: Intro to Communications
04:30.02ckknight__lots of Swedes in it
04:30.18hasteSwedes are fun :3
04:30.57ckknightI made the class all stand up and shout "I'm excited!" three times while jumping
04:32.50hastewhy, and how?
04:32.50ckknightgood times
04:33.17ckknightwhy: they were sleepy, I wanted to wake them up
04:33.40Solelawl
04:33.42ckknighthow: I got up in front of the class, introduced myself, told them to stand up, and shout "I'm excited!" three times while jumping
04:34.02Solejjungnickel: which fire vuln debuff?
04:34.09Soleis it talented?
04:34.09hastehehe
04:34.12jjungnickelyes
04:34.15Soleill try find it
04:34.17jjungnickelimproved scorch
04:34.41hasteMy math class was reduced from 57 people to 46 yesterday
04:34.50Solekk
04:34.53jjungnickelthats the talent. gives +3% fire damage, stacks up to five times, lasts 30s
04:34.59Solewere the people just kicked out haste?
04:35.14Soleis the name of the debuff Fire Vulnerability?
04:35.20Temthey probaby dropped :)
04:35.24hasteyep
04:35.26jjungnickeli think thats the name, lemme debuff a mob quick :)
04:36.13Soleadded
04:36.15KebinusanHmm I need a mod to auto ml anything boe someone
04:36.22Kebinusanis that even possible?
04:37.22Temit is
04:37.33Temit's a planned feature in EasyMasterLoot
04:37.37TemI just have had shit for time
04:38.05KebinusanI understand how that is
04:39.39CIA-1103hshh * r10380 10RangeRecolor/ (5 files in 2 dirs): RangeRecolor: use AceLocale-2.1 instead of 2.0
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04:43.59Solei still dont see the problem with AL 2-0
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04:50.48Solehokay
04:50.50CIA-1103sole * r10382 10HostelBar/ (4 files):
04:50.50CIA-11HostelBar: * actually fixed the anchor/titles bug
04:50.50CIA-11* added some new spells
04:50.50CIA-11* optimized code
04:51.04SoleTem: there is now a table for mob spells
04:51.08jjungnickelooh, i see you properly support ignites?
04:51.29Solehmm? :)
04:51.33Solewhat do you mean by properly?
04:51.43SoleI just put it into the db because I thought itd be useful :P
04:51.46TekkubMikk, ping pong ding dong
04:52.14jjungnickelproperly = ignite duration being refreshed
04:52.30Sole<PROTECTED>
04:52.36SoleIm a rogue so my poisons are refreshed all the time
04:52.48Soleso I exclude durations when I check if a bar is already running
04:53.17Soleother bars I wont renew if theyre running, seeing as I had double bars from something
04:53.24Solekinda forgot now but it had a good reason behind it
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04:53.49jjungnickelyeah thats great that way, because a rolling ignite can cause you some serious trouble
04:54.15jjungnickelother mage pulled aggro on huhu today since he had 2.5k ignite ticking for him and didnt notice :9
04:54.23Solelawl
04:54.52jjungnickelticked for like 10s, heh. => 1.3kdps
04:54.59hastejjungnickel: Chrom is a lot more fun, regarding ignite ticks :3
04:55.05jjungnickelyes, it is
04:55.11Solelol I can imagine
04:55.19jjungnickelbut never had trouble on chrom
04:55.27SoleI remember our warlocks were stupidly crazy when chrom was shadow vuln
04:55.29jjungnickeldespite 12k ignites
04:55.48SoleI remember locks dieng coz they took a break  "just to get that 1 more shadowbolt in"
04:56.07Solethey still got beaten by us rogues on the damage charts so I dunno what they were trying to prove >_<
04:56.30jjungnickelwhats nasty about ignite is that the ticks get the same 300% bonus plus coe plus fire vuln :)
04:56.31Solebreak = breath   ... i type too fast for my brain
04:56.41Solethat is nasty
04:56.51Solei imagine immolate would do a lot of damage too huh
04:57.00jjungnickelnah
04:57.07hasteconflag is cool on Chrom :3
04:57.12Solehaha
04:57.17jjungnickel:)
04:57.23Soleanyway please go test the new Hostel revision
04:57.31hasteMy warlock has shit gear tho'
04:57.36hasteas in Tier 1
04:57.57Solethats not that bad
04:59.12TemI just logged for the night ><
04:59.40Temconflag has a cooldown?
04:59.40hasteIt's quite fun, I brought my warlock to BWL for a month, not a single Nemesis drop, then I bring my rogue instead, and the whole set drops :(
04:59.44Temthat's a shame
04:59.44haste2xChest on nef even
05:00.06hasteTem: well, 1k immolate crit + 2k conflag crit is evil
05:00.08jjungnickellookin good, sole
05:00.25haste(with my gear it's 2k at least)
05:00.31Temhaste, too bad you can't make that happen all the time :)
05:00.44Temwhich is why I love shatter
05:00.49hasteTem: It's not the only damage tho' :3
05:00.56TemI can deal with doing less damage than a fire mage
05:01.07jjungnickelshatter is nice.
05:01.09Tembecause I can say, "I'm gonna crit you now"
05:01.19Tem"here, eat 3500 damage"
05:01.19Soleyea but Im sure locks are more fun in pvp :P
05:01.36jjungnickelproblem ist that it doesnt work everywhere
05:01.37hasteComment: Yuji Shimomura' Death Trance, action movie!
05:01.38Temfuckin dots
05:01.43hasteshould I download that, or not
05:02.00Soledo it
05:02.05Temjjungnickel, actually, I don't have much trouble pulling that off on any class
05:02.10Temshamans are dicks
05:02.26jjungnickeleverywhere = !pvp
05:02.33CIA-1103ckknight * r10383 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: AceLocale-2.0 - lets L[0] to pass through as nil. (Useful for mods that may check if a table is a frame)
05:02.34Temthe only class it doesn't guarantee a win against is a priest
05:02.56Temjjungnickel, oh, yeah I see what you mean now
05:03.48hasteTem: I have a shaman!
05:03.55Temdie in a fire
05:03.58hasteit has a 0/5/46 spec, and lives in instances
05:04.17jjungnickelbut yes, nothing says ouch more than a shattered frostbolt + imp. coc :)
05:04.19hasteand will probably rot since I'm going to post a: I'll join if you need me, but I rather skip the raid post
05:04.27Temjjungnickel, mm hmm
05:04.35CIA-1103grayhoof * r10384 10EavesDrop/EavesDrop.lua: EavesDrop: Fixed enable/disable issues. Now hides frame when disabled. Have to use console to re-enable.
05:04.43Temjjungnickel, I hit a trinket and it's littlerally a 3500 burst with the 2 of them
05:05.06jjungnickelyip.
05:05.17Temand I've still got a 1k fireblast up my sleeve
05:05.51Tembut seriously, 5/8 NW + AoE
05:05.56Temteehee
05:06.10jjungnickelyeah, had shatter + 3/3 imp. coc before i went full fire :)
05:06.34TemI can't stand being a fire mage right now
05:06.38Temyou die so easy
05:07.23Tembut I think I'm gonna be fire for leveling in TBC
05:07.55hasteSole: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKjEtYtIZ38 << it looks cool :3
05:07.59jjungnickeli dont die easy
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05:09.21jjungnickelso far there is _one_ thing that annoys me with fire
05:09.31jjungnickelwaiting for bronze to wear off.
05:09.35jjungnickel:>
05:10.16Sykoticaww, I don't think I'm ever going to win with hostelbars..I think something's borked with my libaries
05:10.36SoleSykotic, what is it now? :(
05:11.34Sykoticsorry :( having a conflict with console in mobhealth
05:13.45Sykoticwhat's the best way of maintaining the libraries? they seem to be conflicting lots, and i get mixed advice from people
05:14.12Solehaste: that looks pretty sweet, a bit of a low budgety feel with the music/text but the film itself looks nice
05:14.23SoleSykotic: I just keep em all embedded
05:14.30SoleI dont use the standalone ones
05:14.46jjungnickeldamnit, i'm haveing trouble testing hostelbar. mobs die too quickly :)
05:15.24Sykoticyeah i've started doing that too, Sole
05:15.33Solelol
05:15.35Sykoticwant me to message you the sack?
05:16.35CIA-1103eternally777 * r10385 10BabbleLib/BabbleLib-2.1/ (6 files in 3 dirs): BabbleLib-2.1: Committing Babble-Class-2.1 and Babble-Spell-2.1.
05:16.40Soleyea ok
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05:16.44jjungnickeltem, where are you at instance-wise?
05:17.08Temwe just killed fankris
05:17.19jjungnickelmhh
05:17.35hasteYou propably got AQR on first fankriss kill
05:17.49TemAQR?
05:17.56jjungnickelancient qiraji ripper
05:18.01Temdunno
05:18.03TemI'm a mage
05:18.07TemI don't notice drops
05:18.12Tem(in AQ)
05:18.19hasteAncient Qiraji Ripper
05:18.25hastedamn you wrote it above :p
05:18.25Tem(I want 2 items from AQ, and they drop from C'Thun)
05:18.41jjungnickelwhat about the twins necklace?
05:18.46Temmeh
05:18.49TemI've got a rag neck
05:18.55jjungnickeland?
05:19.06hasteminor upgrades are needed for Naxx :3
05:19.08Temand it's not enough of an upgrade to make me care
05:19.30jjungnickelwell, well.
05:19.36jjungnickelgo fire, love crit :)
05:19.50Temnot until TBC
05:20.01jjungnickelyeah
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05:20.06TemI like that I outdps the raid even with frost
05:20.06jjungnickelheard that before :p
05:20.18jjungnickelyes. you do.
05:20.34jjungnickelfrost dps = fire dps
05:20.35Tembeing highest damage even with "gimped" damage makes my epeen bigger
05:21.01jjungnickelproblem is that you don#t have burst on demand
05:21.11jjungnickelwhich is sometimes needed later on
05:21.13Temin raids, no, I don't
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05:21.29Temeverywhere else, though, my burst is more reliable than a fire mage's
05:21.36jjungnickelwell, not you. all dps :)
05:21.54Tem?
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05:23.45jjungnickelin naxxramas you will most probably encounter fights where the raid will more likely succeed if it has excess burst dps available
05:24.14Solehmm
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05:24.22Soledoes anyone have problems with the new hopstelbar?
05:24.36jjungnickelnone so far.
05:25.11jjungnickeltem, also the ring of eternal flame is just sexy :p
05:25.16Temoh god yes
05:25.33TemI'mma have to nab one for when I go fire
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05:25.48jjungnickelabsolutely
05:25.59jjungnickelhad our first drop two days ago
05:26.06jjungnickelsorry, three
05:26.09jjungnickellost roll :>
05:26.25jjungnickeltwo days ago it dropped again. yay for me :)
05:28.24eternally777g'night, talk to you all tomorrow
05:30.07Solehmm
05:30.13Soleso curse says a new version of HostelBar is up
05:30.17Solebut it doesnt display the new version
05:30.17Solegg
05:30.35Solegonna give it hte 30 minutes
05:30.36Temjjungnickel, where areyou guys progression wise?
05:31.27jjungnickelaq incl twins, attempting ouro/cthun; naxx spider wing clear, razuvious & noth down
05:33.24Mikma_good morning
05:36.22hastemorning
05:36.47Solehai2u
05:44.14Kaelten"There are two ways of constructing a software design; one way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C. A. R. Hoare
05:44.16Kaeltenlmao
05:46.38Kaeltenok my sense of humor is bad, lol
05:47.39Mikma_http://my.break.com/Media/View.aspx?ContentID=98791
05:47.41Mikma_lol
05:47.52Mikma_Best of Big Brother Sweden 2006
05:52.06Mikkwhoot?
05:52.29MikmaMikk: hi
05:52.48PProvostI need help figuring out what event to use for something...
05:52.59PProvostI need to reposition frames that are created by other addons
05:53.04PProvostOnEnable is too early
05:53.11Kaeltenhrm
05:53.20Kaeltenwhen are the frame crated any specific time?
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05:53.55PProvostNot sure. I know that grabbing and moving MiniMapTrackingFrame during OnEnable (for example) is too early.
05:54.06MikkDo it on the first OnUpdate?
05:54.20PProvostWasn't sure if that was reasonable, but I did consider it.
05:54.35PProvostThought I'd ask here first.
05:54.37KaeltenPProvost: try AceFully Initialized or whatever it is
05:54.52PProvostInteresting... let me give that a shot. Thanks.
05:55.34MikmaMikk: where you in that video?
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05:57.03PProvostKaelten: AceFully what? :) Can't seem to find it.
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05:57.44Kaeltenum look under the aceevent documentation
05:58.05PProvostAhh
05:58.06PProvostOkay
05:58.19PProvostWas looking in AceAddon and AceLibrary. My bad.
05:58.25Kaeltennp :)
05:58.28Kaeltenits what we're here for
05:58.38Mikmait is?
05:58.47Mikmai thought this was #sex :(
05:59.13Mikmarophy thought so too
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06:00.40Solei need anger management
06:00.46Soleim getting pissed off at this fucking rogue in ab
06:00.52PProvostKaelten: Worked like a charm. Thanks!
06:00.52Solei wanna stab him irl
06:01.31Mikma~whalestab AB Rogue
06:01.35purlACTION stabs AB Rogue with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
06:03.31CIA-1103pprovost * r10386 10/branches/LitheSystemTray/ (. Core.lua Libs/ LitheSystemTray.toc Locale-enUS.lua): Initial import.
06:03.33KaeltenPProvost: np :)
06:03.38Kaeltenwhats that do?
06:04.27Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2051.0.html
06:04.50Mikmathat one propably
06:05.30Kaeltenhrm neat
06:06.44hastehttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6101 << I hate spambots :(
06:07.09Mikmawth :D
06:07.34Mikmahmm
06:07.51Mikmaseems like i have to test some new textures for wow
06:08.02Mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4296
06:08.07Mikmahaste uses the minimap of this one
06:08.18hasteyep
06:08.46CIA-1103pprovost * r10387 10/branches/LitheSystemTray/ (Core.lua Libs/ LitheSystemTray.toc Locale-enUS.lua):
06:08.46CIA-11LitheSystemTray:
06:08.46CIA-11- Added svn:externals to Lib
06:08.46CIA-11- Added svn:keywords to Core.lua, LitheSystemTray.toc, Locale-enUS.lua
06:08.51Mikmathe minimap and the bagframe + the large frame on that one interest me
06:10.50PProvostKaelten: You asking what system tray does?
06:11.19Kaeltenya
06:11.23PProvostJust my first stab at that thing that has been discussed in forums for the past week or so.
06:11.30PProvostThink of it as the system tray in Windows.
06:11.41PProvostAdd all those minimap icons to it and set it somewhere.
06:11.42Mikmacan it hold my epenis?
06:11.45PProvosthehe
06:12.40PProvostDoesn't do much yet. Nothing worth playing with yet but enough to put in an SVN branch.
06:13.51PProvostBut it does successfully grab and reposition icons. So "/systray add MiniMapTrackingFrame" will work and will be remembered across sessions.
06:14.00PProvostWorking now on a grid positioning thing.
06:16.54Kaeltenneat
06:17.25ckknightPProvost, you could do "/systray add mouse" and then grab GetMouseFocus()
06:18.21PProvostYep. I will certainly need to do that soon. Until a config UI gets done it is not really usable without that.
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06:26.05CIA-1103pprovost * r10388 10/branches/LitheSystemTray/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua):
06:26.05CIA-11LitheSystemTray:
06:26.05CIA-11- Added show/hide command
06:26.05CIA-11- Moved settings from 'char' to 'profile'
06:31.27Kaeltengnight guys
06:34.48ckknighthttp://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/freshman
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06:45.56hastehmm, Machinae Supremacy is half done with their new album
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06:53.51Neebler4.14mp3 15[14Machinae Supremacy - Rogue World Asylum15] [144:13min15] [14256kbps15]4.
06:55.37Neebler12 Monkeys is on SCIFI!
06:58.30ckknightyou're a monkey.
06:59.04Neeblera gnome monkey
06:59.57Neeblerthe latest bigwigs beta is the sex!
07:00.00NeeblerI love the new look
07:00.22ckknightI want sex :-(
07:00.41jjungnickelwith gnome monkeys?
07:00.53ckknightnot quite
07:01.00ckknightnot into bestiality
07:01.30Neebleroh oh oh oh. Idea! have the warnings show 10 seconds before they happen, like RDX
07:01.47Neeblerhave them like fade into view, or move to a specified position all smooth like
07:02.07ckknightcould be worth looking into
07:02.19Laricgnite
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07:03.49kergoth12 monkeys rocks
07:04.24NeeblerAlmost as much as the fifth element
07:04.37MikmaI love 5th element
07:04.54Mikmai got it as VHS and DVD :D
07:04.57[Ammo]I like coffee
07:05.02Gngskmy realm is down for "approximately" 36 hours /wrists
07:05.10Mikmabut anyway, am i the onlyone who thinks this is supercool http://modblog.bmezine.com/wp-content/uploads/200609031852-pix1.jpg
07:05.15gnorlishsame for my realm
07:05.22Mikma~wrists
07:05.25purlRemember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road!
07:05.25Gngskwhich realm would that be gnorlish?
07:05.30gnorlishskullcrusher
07:05.41Mikma[Ammo]: and I like cake. :)
07:06.32WorfMikma: hmm... interesting "case modding" ... ( but i don't like case modding )
07:07.52Mikkspeaking of emo
07:08.25Gngskso branhces are being zipped now?
07:08.30MikmaWorf: lol
07:08.38ckknightpurl, lol
07:08.40purlhmm... lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.
07:08.40Gngsk*branches
07:08.48Mikkhttp://finding-emo.net
07:08.49ckknightnerd.
07:09.26ckknightnerd to purl, that is
07:09.27ckknightnot Mikk
07:09.38ckknightah, nvm, Mikk can be a nerd too
07:09.43Mikmasure
07:09.53Mikk"hmm... lol stands for (i am) Laughing Out Loud. it is grammatically correct to use LOL in the first person." </nerd>
07:09.53MikmaMik* are nerds.
07:10.07MikmaMikk: wanna hear something funny?
07:10.19Mikkis it better than the sound of my pillow screaming for me?
07:10.32MikmaMikk: yes, this will make you lol
07:10.39MikmaMikk: teenages in Finland think "lol" means "lots of love"
07:10.44WorfMikma: i don't eaven wear a watch... i couldn't stand a ring on my finger ( not for the symbolic meaning, but for the feeling ), and this guys nail their blockheads ... :)
07:10.49Mikk...
07:10.56Mikmayeah
07:10.57Mikkteach them about "down the street", plx =)
07:11.11ckknightMikma, really?
07:11.25MikmaWorf: extreme-piercing, put a spear throught your head! ;)
07:11.31Mikmackknight: really really
07:11.35Worfheh, yeah
07:11.36ckknightdamn
07:11.45ckknightwhat about other Scandinavian countries?
07:11.46Mikmathat's because of this stupid http://irc-galleria.net
07:11.57ckknightand also, what's the relation between the Scandinavian countries?
07:12.10Mikmackknight: we hate each other :P
07:12.13ckknightare they like Germany and France or more like America and Canada
07:12.15ckknightah
07:12.15ckknighthrm
07:12.18ckknightwhy?
07:12.25Mikkpurl, no, lol is short for "(I am) Laughing Out Loud. Althought it is gramatically correct to use LOL in the first person, you are doomed to be viewed as a 14-year old. Rather use "heh" or "haha".
07:12.26purlMikk: cannot alter locked factoids
07:12.29vhaarrwe meet together during summertime and have sex and then hate eachother the rest of the year
07:12.31MikkWHAAAT!
07:12.33Mikmaswedish think finnish are dumb and finnish think swedish are gay
07:12.40Mikkhaha
07:12.48Mikmait's a common war that has been going on for ages
07:12.53ckknightlol
07:12.53Mikkwell
07:12.59MikmaMikk: am i right? :)
07:13.15Mikkswedes, norwegians and danes are fairly closely related, ethnically as well as lingually
07:13.24vhaarreveryone knows that Norway wins
07:13.28ckknightwhat about Finns, though?
07:13.32[Ammo]if you ain't dutch you ain't much!
07:13.36ckknighttru dat, vhaarr
07:13.50Mikkfinns are some weird migrated offspring of some people that lived down in central europe and moved northwest until they hit water and never left a lingual trace behind
07:14.01Mikmackknight: we speak our own language which is nothing like swedish/etc
07:14.06ckknightalright
07:14.17Mikmathat's why everyone hate us :D
07:14.17[Ammo]but the finns are on your side when it comes to russians
07:14.29ckknightI thought they were closely related to Swedes/Norweigans
07:14.29Mikkcommon to all scandinavian countries is that we all think that the others are stupid
07:14.31Mikmaalso, we have 3 languages here people use
07:14.37vhaarrno, they are not
07:14.42vhaarrwe can't understand a single word they say :)
07:14.48MikmaFinnish, Swedish, and on Lapland they speak that weird fuck called "Saame"
07:14.54vhaarrhey
07:14.59vhaarrIn Norway, too.
07:15.00Mikkexcept when we've got knocked out of world championships ourselves, then we'll merrily cheer for whatever scandinavian country still happens to be in it :-P
07:15.05Mikmahaste: oh?
07:15.21Mikmas/haste/vhaar/
07:15.26vhaarryes
07:15.32vhaarrWe have Samer, too.
07:15.35Mikmadidn't know that
07:15.42Mikknorway, sweden and finland
07:15.48Mikkheck, northwestern russia too
07:15.50Mikkor
07:15.50Mikkum
07:15.53Mikkwhatever's up there now
07:15.55vhaarrThey're everywhere, man, we can't get them out!
07:15.58vhaarr><
07:15.59Tem|Sleepmy ethics teacher was finnish
07:16.07ckknightLithuania?
07:16.10Mikmawell i think the north of each country should be splitted into their own land. :P
07:16.19vhaarryes it should
07:16.20Mikki actually think it's russia up there by the polar circle
07:16.29Tem|Sleephe liked using 2 dutch guys being worth more than his own daughter
07:16.35Tem|Sleepeven though he hated them
07:16.38ckknightMikma, wouldn't work, isn't there uranium and such up there?
07:16.40Mikmajust chop the north off from sweden,norway and finland and combine them as "shitland"
07:16.41CIA-1103neronix 07otravi * r10389 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/casting.lua:
07:16.41CIA-11oCB2
07:16.41CIA-11- Added arg to both SpellStop and SpellFailed - dontUnregister. For use by custom client mods to complement arg4 to SpellStart
07:16.41CIA-11- SpellStop and SpellFailed now properly unregister events
07:16.46ckknightthat shit is useful
07:16.55Mikksnow, forests and reindeer
07:17.00ckknightand Uranium.
07:17.02Mikmackknight: well i think russian is only country here that has that
07:17.09Mikkgreat opportunities for snowmobile salesmen
07:17.11Mikkthat's about it :-P
07:17.16Mikmai'm not sure does these 3 countries have Uranium
07:17.17ckknightand Santa.
07:17.25ckknightNorway does, at least
07:17.30Mikmahttp://www.santapark.com
07:17.30ckknightpretty sure of that
07:17.38MikkMikma: Lies!
07:17.40vhaarrPeople in northern norway also pay less tax.
07:17.45vhaarrThan the rest of the country.
07:17.52vhaarrAnd get other benefits.
07:17.57Mikmavhaarr: that's because they can't go out on winters lol
07:18.01vhaarrlol
07:18.11ckknightlike in Alaska here, they get benefits and such
07:18.16vhaarrYeah, it's to motivate them into not moving away :)
07:18.28MikkWhaaaat?!
07:18.31Mikmavhaarr: yeah, too damn cold to move lol
07:18.35Mikma-40c etc
07:18.37CIA-1103neronix * r10390 10/branches/oCB_HunterShots/oCB_HunterShots.lua:
07:18.37CIA-11oCB: Hunter Shots
07:18.37CIA-11- Now doesn't hook oCB thanks to changes in it
07:18.37CIA-11- Minor logic optimisation
07:18.56vhaarr:D
07:19.05MikmaMikk: you live in north?
07:19.13Mikkaeuhhuhuh sortof
07:19.20Mikmaok i'm sorry :P
07:19.51Mikkwell not up in reindeerland
07:19.58Mikkbut you can feel sorry for me anyway, that's ok =)
07:20.25snurrenothing wrong with reindeerland! :p
07:20.36Mikmammmmm
07:20.40Mikmareindeermeat <3
07:20.44snurreyeah
07:20.45Mikmait's freaking good
07:20.53snurrelove it
07:20.54Mikmai mean _REALLY_ good
07:21.03Mikkyes
07:21.12snurrereindeer and whale = excellent meat
07:21.13Mikmabeats the crap out of cows pigs bulls etc
07:21.29Mikmamm whale.. haven't tried that one yet
07:21.42Mikmai have tasted Rabbit, Duck, Reindeer... and and
07:21.50snurrehighly recommended
07:21.54CIA-1103rabbit * r10391 10BigWigs_ZombieFood/ZombieFood.lua: BigWigs_ZombieFood: Don't warn for pets and crap.
07:21.55MikkWell-made duck kicks ass also
07:21.57snurreexpensive and exotic, but worth it
07:22.04MikkBut nine out of ten times it'll just be dry and boring :-(
07:22.14Mikmarabbit was a real surprise too actually
07:22.15ckknightDuck's not specialty :-P
07:22.24MikkIn sweden it is =)
07:22.26ckknightI don't like it, though
07:22.28ckknightah, okay
07:22.48MikkI've had quite a bit more reindeer than I've had duck, let me tell you
07:22.52MikkNot to mention Moose
07:23.01Mikmayeah same here :)
07:23.13Mikk(GF's dad hunts em.... fridge stocked nonstop)
07:23.25Mikmaand why do we eat so much moosemeat? because of the freaking car accidents with mooses
07:23.30Mikkhahaha
07:23.37Mikkno, that's not the reason for me =P
07:23.51Mikkbulletaccidents
07:23.55Mikmamuah
07:24.06kergothwoot, finally did the legs/boots/shoulders upgrade to 0.5
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07:24.30`-FISKER_Q\i'm pvp'ing omg
07:25.00ckknightyays
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07:30.45Mikmaflooder :D
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07:30.59Mikmaevl: flooding is bad, mm'kay?
07:32.27evlgood morning
07:34.36Gngskgood nite
07:34.39nekohmornin'
07:36.20vhaarrBabbleLib-2.1?
07:36.25vhaarrah
07:36.35vhaarrDependencies: AceLibrary, AceLocale-2.0
07:38.54vhaarrI've seen nothing to convince me that 2.1 is not a complete and utter waste of time and resources.
07:40.27evl<PROTECTED>
07:41.17evlSpeaking of, I'd really like to see an SVN cleanup, there's not much Ace1 stuff left and I think those addons should really be stuffed in a separate subfolder
07:42.51FtH|eagleagree
07:43.21vhaarrevl: AceLocale.
07:46.01evlTo be honest, I can't be arsed with localization at all
07:46.19evlThe internet is already flooeded with french and german people who should start learning english
07:46.27evlstart to ;)*
07:48.45Mikmayo maen tehy shuld lern eglish?
07:48.59evlYes!
07:49.22Mikmait's actually harder to make the typos than to write the correct words
07:51.27Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2138.msg40940.html#msg40940
07:51.33Mikmabest...post...ever!
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07:52.43oxmanstill no priority with detox ?
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07:53.26Mikmawobbly!
07:53.43krkawrong response!
07:53.46krkathe correct response was
07:53.48krka"I love lamp"
07:54.39Mikmano no
07:54.42MikmaI like cake.
07:54.46Mikmait's the best there is
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07:55.08Mikmacomes from some standupcomic-dude i saw in conan o'brien once
07:55.33Mikmahe doesn't drink alcohol and people are always asking him after his show "can i offer you something to drink?"
07:55.57Mikmahe has started to think that he should reply to them: "no but you can offer me some cake. I like cake."
07:56.47Mikmakrka: oh well, ckknight_ did the "I love lamp" already :D
07:56.57Mikmai don't have an idea what the hell it means anyway :D
07:57.18ckknight_yea, I spoke to eternally777, and after talking to him, I don't think he's going to continue to develop BabbleLib-2.1
07:57.26ckknight_and just stick to 2.0 instead
07:57.39ckknight_^-- vhaarr
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07:57.52vhaarr:)
07:58.13ckknight_you don't know "I love lamp"?
07:58.20Mikmanope :/
07:58.24ckknight_wow
07:58.27ckknight_deprived, child
07:58.37ckknight_it's from Anchorman
07:58.53Mikmaand that is?
07:59.33ckknight_a movie with Will Farrell. He plays a 70's anchorman.
07:59.50ckknight_an anchorman is a guy on the news.
08:00.00ckknight_such as Jon Stewart.
08:00.06Mikmamm i think i have seen the cover of the film
08:00.25Mikmahaven't rented it yet tho
08:00.35Mikmai think he's not wearing any pants in the cover
08:01.25Mikmasorry for the finnish-cover but: http://www.makuuni.fi/web_gfx/movies/3025.jpg
08:01.37ckknight_right
08:01.40ckknight_I love lamp.
08:01.53ckknight_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357413/
08:01.55Mikmaok then gotta rent that movie
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08:03.45oxmanstill no priority with detox ?
08:03.59tumetomuhhh it's so fucking hard locate an error in the libs
08:05.44MikmaBrick Tamland: I love lamp. -> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0136797/
08:05.51Mikmalol i just love that actor
08:07.19tumetomthere should be an addon that cycles through my addon list.
08:07.48tumetomactivate each standalone, reloadUI..check for errors ..next
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08:12.22Mikmapurl: ckknight++
08:14.00ckknight_~karma ckknight
08:14.00purlckknight has karma of 3
08:14.04ckknight_hrm
08:14.15ckknight_seems like it should be higher
08:14.20Mikmapurl: ckknight++
08:14.25Mikma;)
08:14.28ckknightlol
08:14.34Mikma<1114> [freenode] <purl> Someone already said that 1 seconds ago
08:14.36Mikmaso no go
08:14.39Mikmayou got only 1
08:15.26Mikmai'll make a script that smites tuplad every 10sec and applauds you ;)
08:15.33Mikma~karma tuplad
08:15.34purltuplad has karma of -5
08:15.41ckknightlol
08:15.45ckknightno doubt.
08:15.57Mikmaand that ain't because of me
08:16.07Mikmai have voted him only once :D
08:16.12ckknightyea, I did it twice
08:16.32Mikmait's fun to vote persons in private
08:16.35ckknighthey, Tuplad's not even here. Where'd he run off to?
08:16.48Mikmajust /msg purl person--
08:17.01Mikmanobody never finds out who did it ;)
08:17.13ckknighthehe
08:17.25Mikma~karma tuplad
08:17.25purltuplad has karma of -5
08:17.30Mikmamm
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08:19.02Mikma~karma industrial
08:19.02purlindustrial has neutral karma
08:19.24HealthTuplad--
08:19.32Health~karma health
08:19.32purlhealth has neutral karma
08:19.34ckknightgotta have the ~
08:19.35Healthw00t
08:19.40Healthslack
08:19.42ckknightso it has to be ~Tuplad--
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08:19.52ckknighthey wereHamster
08:19.57Mikmatuplad--
08:20.04Mikma~karma tuplad
08:20.04purltuplad has karma of -5
08:20.05wereHamsterhey, wazzup?
08:20.13Mikmaright
08:20.21Mikmadidn't need the ~ earlier
08:20.30ckknightyes you did
08:20.33ckknighthis karma didn't change.
08:20.38ckknight~tuplad--
08:20.40ckknight~karma tuplad
08:20.40purltuplad has karma of -6
08:20.42ckknightsee.
08:20.47ckknightcompared to:
08:20.49ckknighttuplad--
08:20.53ckknight~karma tuplad
08:20.53purltuplad has karma of -6
08:21.01ckknightthe ~ is needed
08:21.15Mikmathat's interesting, i remembered that it did work without sometimes
08:21.16ckknightif you /msg purl, the ~ isn't needed.
08:21.25Mikma~karma tuplad
08:21.26purltuplad has karma of -6
08:21.32Mikmadoesn't work in private anymore
08:21.34ckknightso `/msg purl ckknight++` would work fine
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08:21.46ckknight~karma mikma
08:21.46purlmikma has neutral karma
08:22.00ckknight~karma mikma
08:22.00purlmikma has neutral karma
08:22.00Mikma~ckknight++
08:22.03ckknighthrm
08:22.05ckknightguess so
08:22.09ckknightdidn't raise yours.
08:22.11Mikmait DID work earlier
08:22.19Mikmathat's how i smited tuplad :D
08:25.21tumetomhm corkfu isn't fubar2 comp  :(
08:30.26wereHamsterhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19842144&sid=1 <= he can either use the blue minimap button or the slash commands '/ifm start', '/ifm stop' to move the frame, btw, please also mention that that's described on the curse-gaming site of the addon.
08:33.06Mikmalol didn't take long for the person getting smited :D
08:33.10Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2138.0.html
08:33.33ckknighttumetom, yes it is
08:33.39ckknightwell, it's 1.2
08:33.46ckknightbut it should work with compat layer
08:35.45CIA-1103pprovost * r10392 10/branches/LitheSystemTray/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua):
08:35.45CIA-11LitheSystemTray
08:35.45CIA-11- Added "del" command for removing managed frame
08:35.45CIA-11- Added "grab" command for grabbing the frame under the cursor
08:36.39evlckknight: Any plans on Ace2'ing AutoAttack? Really missed that AddOn in MoltenBore yesterday :P
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08:38.08CIA-1103wobin * r10393 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:
08:38.08CIA-11FuBar_FuXPFu:
08:38.08CIA-11- fixed a typo
08:38.08CIA-11- Lets see if this fixes the 'attempt to call method' error, or if I've forgotten all my lua
08:38.12tumetomckknight with compat 1.2 it does .. but I don't like theidea of using  Fubar compat 1.2 because of one plugin :(
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08:39.01Wobin~karma khameleon
08:39.01purlkhameleon has neutral karma
08:39.11ckknight_lol
08:39.33ckknight_it's karma chameleon
08:39.38WobinAye
08:39.40Wobintrue
08:39.47WobinBut I bet he has neutral karma too
08:39.58ckknight~karma chameleon
08:39.58purlchameleon has karma of 1
08:40.01Wobinomg
08:40.02ckknightlol.
08:40.04ckknightwrong.
08:40.07evlckknight: Any plans on Ace2'ing AutoAttack? Really missed that AddOn in MoltenBore yesterday :P (think you pinged out lsat time i asked)
08:40.19ckknightnot really, evl
08:40.25ckknight:-[
08:40.32evlIt works right?
08:40.44evlIn it's present form that.
08:40.45evlis.
08:40.53PProvostGood night all.
08:40.56evlG'
08:40.57evlnight
08:41.32ckknightprobably
08:42.32evlMind if I give it a go in branches?
08:42.39Wobin~karmachameleon
08:42.40purlACTION comes and goes.
08:43.14ckknightoh, sure, evl
08:43.24ckknightshouldn't be hard to convert
08:43.40evlRight-o! Thanks
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08:45.47phyberjjungnickel: that's AceTimer (if you didn't find out yet)
08:46.08jjungnickelwhoah, nice lag ;-) thanks.
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08:50.15nevcairielmorning
08:50.21wereHamsterwhy is here CIA-11 and #winehackers has CIA-20 ?
08:50.45Mikmabecause they are much more pro than we
08:51.26ckknightplease
08:51.40ckknightI could kick those guys' asses any day of the week.
08:51.53ckknightit's more like, you know how 007 is pimper than 008?
08:52.04ckknightsame deal with CIA-11 and CIA-20
08:52.12Mikma7msg #winehackers hey dudes, here's a challenge for you: <@ckknight> I could kick those guys' asses any day of the week.
08:52.47ckknightlol.
08:52.53ckknight7msg?
08:53.06Mikmayeah that's a comming mistake people make
08:53.14Healthwith EU keyboards.
08:53.15Jagobah7msg, like 7zip!
08:53.28`-FISKER_Q\you can't make that mistake
08:53.31Healthmaybe even nordic keyboards
08:53.32`-FISKER_Q\cause you use / @ the numpad
08:53.33Mikmaoh yeah
08:53.37`-FISKER_Q\anything else is stupid
08:53.41ckknightsilly foreigners
08:53.43kergothwereHamster: the number likely gets bumped whenever the existing numbers are taken
08:53.47Mikma7/7/7/ .. on the same button :)
08:53.53ckknightah, Mikma
08:54.04kergothso say CIA-11 times out, it reconnects and 11 hasnt dropped yet, now its up to CIA-(maxnum + 1)
08:54.09ckknightsee, we have / and ? on the same button, where shift-/ is ?
08:54.14Mikma1234567890+´ -> !"#¤%&/()=?`
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08:54.16Mikma:=
08:54.17kergoththen 11 drops, and theres a hole in the numbering scheme
08:54.34phyberjjungnickel: ;)  I was sleeping :)
08:54.45jjungnickelyeah, guessed
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08:55.07Mikmackknight: hmm don't you have the ? and / next to enter?
08:55.16ckknightnext to shift
08:55.24ckknightright shift, that is
08:55.26Mikmapropably right shift
08:55.32Mikmayeah we have - _
08:55.38ckknight' and " are next to enter
08:55.39Mikmanext to enter is * '
08:55.50ckknight- _ is near backspace
08:55.58wereHamsterlet's kick CIA-11 ^^
08:56.04Mikma:D
08:56.06ckknightno, he's useful.
08:56.07HealthWe all know the us layout, as it's default in many OSes!
08:56.20wereHamsterno, just to see which muber he gets when he reconnects
08:56.21HealthI can easilly ninja switch!
08:56.24MikmaHealth: yeah the buttons are a bitch to search with EU layout
08:56.24ckknightcause we're the best!
08:56.57ckknightand anyone who doesn't like it can git out
08:57.13HealthI wonder why I came up with this stupid idea.. use a hidden html element as template for generating html with JS
08:57.26ckknightum, k?
08:57.32Healthat work that is
08:57.53Mikmahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_keyboard_layouts
08:57.56Mikmathere we go :)
08:58.35Mikmaand but.. the button left to backspace was also a bitch to get work with WoW :P
08:59.09FISKER_Q:P
08:59.14oxmandvorak :)
08:59.14Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Bartender2_Pagemaster/Pagemaster.lua
08:59.26Mikmathere's both, US and EU layouts defined
08:59.27kergothpagemaster?
08:59.28ckknightdvorak is such a scam
08:59.29ckknight:-P
08:59.30kergothwhassat?
09:00.04oxmandvorak is the best
09:00.16Mikmakergoth: Kyahx's addon modified to Bartender2 to swap Bars 2-5 with alt, ctrl, shift and when targeting friendly
09:00.28kergothah
09:00.31oxmani've modify localy pagemaster too
09:00.34kergoththats pretty cool
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09:00.42oxmani switch between page with keybind
09:01.12oxmanbecause i can't use Shift+numkeypad
09:01.28MikmaUS keys next to backspace: SetBinding("ALT--") and SetBinding("ALT-=") .. also the default keybinds of wow
09:01.48MikmaEU keys nexto to backspace: SetBinding("ALT-+") and SetBinding("ALT-´")
09:01.55Mikmaffs :P
09:02.08Mikma´ or something like that in .lua
09:02.27Mikmalol i suck. it changes the chars into ? :)
09:02.27ckknightso... everyone should convert to US keyboards, then?
09:02.34Mikmackknight: yes!
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09:02.58Mikmai hate eu layout from the bottom of my heart because of all those f*cking buttons
09:03.15Mikmathe thing is.. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/KB_Sweden.svg
09:03.15phyberhmm?  my keyboard has always had - and = next to the backspace.  clearly the UK has superior keyboards to the rest of EU.
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09:03.40Mikmaif i press the button next to backspace it won't get printed unless i press space too
09:03.45HealthOne thing was is even more sucky than keyboard layouts is character encodings... developing a tool that should support 20 languages atm.. utf8 ftw, if all stuff you work with supports it well :p
09:03.55Mikmai don't understand what's the idea of that one really
09:03.57oxmanoskin work for spellbook now ?
09:04.32HealthMikma: Or any other character.. you can chose which character you want it added too.. like test to press that one and "a"
09:04.44Mikmathat key + space = ´ , and shift + that key + space = `
09:04.44HealthTo save characters on the keyboard
09:04.56MikmaHealth: yeah but then i get: á
09:05.05HealthYeah..
09:05.06ckknightah, utf-16 ftw, imo
09:05.08Mikmaé
09:05.21Mikmaàéàéàé
09:05.37HealthThere's always so many layers you need the char encoding to work though
09:05.45FISKER_QĂ¦Ă¸Ă¥Ă¤Ă¶Ă«
09:05.47MikmaISO-plaaplaa
09:06.21Mikmahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KB_United_States.svg <- me likey
09:06.23vhaarrckknight: Do you think this error http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1762.msg40830.html#msg40830 is related to the AceEvent bug?
09:06.24Healthweb browser -> http -> php -> java servlet -> jboss -> hibernate -> mysql
09:06.26Healthand the list goes on
09:06.40vhaarrckknight: nevermind, it has been fixed.
09:06.47ckknightseverely unlikely
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09:07.03Mikmajklöä'
09:07.23krkaHealth: most layers should hopefully ignore charsets if they're not actively doing anything to the text
09:07.31Mikmaus has jkl:" or something :/
09:07.38Healthkrka, you're an inactive layer!
09:07.59Healthkrka, but some don't!
09:08.05Healthand then you omgwtfbbq
09:08.15Healthjust ask dreas what he thinks about char encoding.
09:08.40Mikmathey should remove the öäå letters from finland and sweden :P
09:08.50Mikmathen we could use US keyboards
09:08.51HealthThen you work with Shockwave - that doesn't support utf-8!
09:08.59Health:P
09:09.13MikmaMatti Nykänen -> Matti Nykaenen
09:09.26Mikma(the ex.skijumper or so)
09:09.30Healthwtb world that forgot about iso charsets and started of with unicode stuff!
09:09.42MikmaMika Häkkinen -> Mika Haekkinen
09:09.58MikmaKimi Räikkönen -> Kimi Raeikkoenen :D
09:10.30HealthYeah, finnish really needs longer words :p
09:11.15Mikmayeah, something like this: lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas
09:11.26Mikmathe longest word in finnish ... once again ;)
09:11.37nevcairielwhat does it mean? :)
09:11.47Mikmahmmh don't make me translate it again :(
09:11.53Mikmatook me an hour last time to do it
09:12.43ckknightlol
09:12.48ckknightdo it
09:13.36Mikmagoogling atm ;)
09:13.58kergothbt2pagemaster needs to be able to be configured
09:14.05Healthl2lua!
09:14.07Mikmalentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas
09:14.13Mikmakergoth: yeah true
09:14.18MikmaIt means "An airplane jet-engine mechanic under officer student" or something close to that.
09:14.20nevcairielso does oSkin.
09:14.35oxmanoskin for bg frame, for spellbook, for chatframe, lovely
09:14.36Mikmagoogle wins by 55mins
09:15.03kergothother than that, it kicks ass
09:15.11kergothi love it, hid bar2 and bar3 to free up screen space
09:15.11Soltanismikma : i would love to hear you pronouce that work for me :-)
09:15.38nevcairielstill one fubar plugin which needs compat .. anyone know of ItemBonusesFu in Ace2 ? /me thinks about converting
09:15.40Mikmakergoth: yeah i'm using the same tactic now :)
09:16.33Mikmahere we go again! i love to paste my ui! :D http://wow.reaktio.net/ui.jpg
09:16.34Soltanisthere are 9 primary pressions right?
09:17.21oxmanlol Mikma ;p
09:17.41nevcairielanyone seen claidhaire lately ? he didnt reply to my svn access request mail :(
09:18.05phyberMikma: what are you using to get that oSkin frame at the bottom?
09:18.14vhaarrMikma: can Bartender2 change my keybindings now, so if I click Shift+2 it applies the keybindings to bar2?
09:18.21HealthMikma: How do you switch bars with pagemaster?
09:18.36phyberMikma: Mikma, Mikma Mikma?
09:18.36Mikmawow, talk about getting highlighted
09:18.39phyber:p
09:18.42vhaarr:D
09:18.43nevcairielhaha
09:19.08Mikmaphyber: http://mikma.reaktio.net/oSkin/
09:19.16Mikmavhaarr: yes
09:19.21vhaarr\o/
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09:19.31MikmaHealth: press ctrl, alt, shift, or target friendly player/npc
09:19.33phyberMikma: great, thanks.
09:19.40Healthsmart
09:19.44kergothMikma: i like the way you laid out the bottom part of the screen.  not a fan of your buff display, i liek elkbuffbar, but thats personal preference :)
09:19.52FISKER_Qwhat doe that do Mikma ?
09:19.56FISKER_Qdoes*
09:20.02HealthThe friendly target/evul one I need to try
09:20.05Mikmakergoth: yeah i think i will delete that m_buffbar since it hogs up like 500KiB
09:20.17kergothow
09:20.23FISKER_Q>:I
09:20.24MikmaFISKER_Q: umh, what? :)
09:20.33FISKER_Q(11:19:13) <Mikma> phyber: http://mikma.reaktio.net/oSkin/
09:20.37HealthYou notice any difference with this 500KiB in game performance? =)
09:20.42Healththose*
09:20.47MikmaFISKER_Q: it adds the bottomframe what i have in my picture
09:21.03vhaarrMikma: Do I need the Pagemaster addon?
09:21.04FISKER_Qoh
09:21.07vhaarrMikma: or only bartender2?
09:21.09MikmaFISKER_Q: just download the 2 files and put them in Interface/AddOns/oSkin (and overwrite the .toc)
09:21.14[Ammo]http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1762.msg40830.html#msg40830
09:21.17[Ammo]hrmf
09:21.21[Ammo]silly mousepasteing
09:21.33Mikmavhaarr: http://svn.wowace.com/files/Bartender2_Pagemaster-r10338.zip
09:21.42vhaarrso I need that
09:21.54Wobin=(
09:21.59WobinI've forgotten all my lua
09:22.05MikmaHealth: not actually but i'm very strict on using my mem :D
09:22.13vhaarrremember it by deucing MrPlow :D
09:22.26oxmansomeone make skin for oskin actually ? (spellbook, bg frame, etc)
09:22.32Mikmavhaarr: yeah it's an extra-module to load along with bartender, so toggleable on and off from addon-menu
09:22.41WobinNah, too big a project for the moment. I'll just add more rep options for fuxp
09:23.06vhaarrMikma: is dreamlayout nice?
09:23.18Mikmavhaarr: [Ammo] hates it so it rocks. :D
09:23.28vhaarr:P
09:23.32nevcairieli love it :)
09:23.44Mikmavhaarr: http://wow.reaktio.net/dreamlayout.jpg it covers only the bars 1-5 atm
09:23.46HealthI only saw the fully zoomed in version of dreamlayout :(
09:23.47oxmandreamlayout is nice and works fine here :p
09:23.54vhaarrah
09:23.58oxmanbut there is a "bug" with bartender
09:24.02Mikmai'll add the petbar and shapeshiftbar (bar6 and 7) at the next week
09:24.12oxmanwhen you cast the spell, the square is rounded
09:24.13oxman:(
09:24.24oxmanand became squared after the casting
09:24.36Mikmaoxman: huh? doesn't on me :O
09:24.48WobinAnd damnit, I'm going to have to start using ';' so I don't get out of practice =P
09:24.49oxmanare you sur ?
09:24.53Mikmaonly bug i know with Bt2 atm is with Pagemaster, shift+mouseclick on spells = remove from actionbar
09:24.53oxmancheck please
09:25.01oxmanit's very quick and you need to watch the icon
09:25.03oxmanto see that
09:25.10Mikmaoxman: yes i'm sure since i did play with it last night :)
09:25.13vhaarrMikma: bartender2 needs snapping :(
09:25.19oxmanok i will take screenshot
09:25.19kergothMikma: well, thats not really its fault, shift+click on icon normally does pick it up
09:25.21Mikmaoxman: so you mean the yellow botder?
09:25.25nevcairielthats the default blizzard button highlight
09:25.38oxmanthat and a yellow border during 0.1sec too yes
09:25.39Mikmakergoth: you have any idea is there a way to hook the event / remove it?
09:26.00Mikmaoxman: well keep the actionbutton pressed.. ;) it's blizzards texture
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09:27.02oxmanwe can avoid that right ?
09:27.25Mikmaby changing the texture to something else
09:27.44oxmanwe need a nice square :p
09:27.54Mikmawell it can be done pretty easily i think
09:28.00vhaarrMikma: my bar 2-X are empty in bartender2
09:28.09vhaarrMikma: with Bongos I had stuff in them, now they are empty
09:28.15Mikmavhaarr: you know why?
09:28.19vhaarrno
09:28.21nevcairielbongos uses different bars :)
09:28.31Mikmackknight: wanna answer to vhaarr ;D
09:28.42Mikma"because you touch yourself at night"
09:28.47vhaarro_O
09:28.52Mikmanevcairiel is right
09:29.12vhaarrthat sucks?
09:29.12oxmanhttp://www.zimagez.com/zimage/tmp18.php
09:29.15oxmanlook that Mikma
09:29.15Mikmabongos creates it's own buttons and the order is different than what blizz uses
09:29.19oxmanrounded when casting
09:29.19oxman:(
09:29.40Mikmaoxman: it's the texture :) i know
09:29.49oxmanok
09:30.03oxmanyou can made the same texture but squared i believe
09:30.12Mikmayou can see that the background is still square, it only adds the "rounded" texture ontop of the button while "onpressed"
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09:30.41oxmanyep i know
09:30.42Mikmawell i think it can be done with lua completely. just hide the texture and use some nifty code to light up the button (SetAlpha perhaps)
09:30.58oxmanok
09:31.17oxman:)
09:31.49vhaarrMikma: so .. when I drag a spell from my spell book, the bars do not show as drop targets
09:31.55WobinAnyone got an example of a radiobutton grouping for fubar options?
09:32.05vhaarronly bar1
09:32.10nevcairieldid you enable all blizzard bars in interface options?
09:32.18nevcairielread the readme ffs :D
09:32.19vhaarrWobin: validate = { "option1", "option2" }
09:32.21Mikma:D
09:32.31vhaarrreadme >< :D
09:32.54vhaarrthere is no readme
09:32.59Wobinvharr: that's for a text type, right? And that just gives the listing to choose from etc
09:33.06vhaarrWobin: yes
09:33.06nevcairielfirst post in the thread = readme
09:33.07nevcairiel:)
09:33.11Wobinvhaarr: Ta
09:33.16vhaarrMikma: add the readme to bartender2 svn
09:33.23vhaarrforums are teh suck
09:33.26Mikmai can't now, at school
09:33.31vhaarrI can
09:33.41Mikmawell do it then :)
09:33.45nevcairielI would, but i clad still hasnt replyed to my access request .. bah :D
09:33.49nevcairiel-i
09:34.37vhaarr"The core of Bartender2 is nearly complete. It doesn't have any way ingame to configure the bars yet (except for /script's). Last night I tested, tested, and tested some more, and finally moved it from svn's branches to trunk!"
09:34.44vhaarrI guess the readme has not been updated in a while
09:34.49nevcairielhaha
09:34.56Mikmalies
09:35.00Mikmathat's not in there
09:35.06vhaarrhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1837.0.html
09:35.08vhaarrit's there
09:35.12Mikmanope
09:35.19vhaarrlol
09:35.21vhaarr:D
09:35.25Mikma;)
09:35.29nevcairiel:)
09:36.08CIA-1103rabbit * r10394 10Bartender2/readme.txt: Bartender2: Add readme.txt, copy+paste from the forum post.
09:36.35tumetomwithout looking at the wiki.. dows anybody know a function to check if my target is "healable" ?
09:36.57ckknightvhaarr, you touch yourself at night.
09:36.59Mikmapropably need to check is he the same faction + player
09:37.27CIA-1103rabbit * r10395 10Bartender2/Bartender2.toc: Bartender2: Touch the OptionalDeps just like I touch myself at night.
09:37.50tumetomsome npcs can be healed... others not
09:38.04Mikmathat's like legendary. wow.reaktio.net/legendary.jpg
09:38.47nevcairielI think only SpellCanTargetUnit can detect that
09:38.50Mikmatumetom: 3 things to check. 1. Is unit the same faction 2. Is unit player/npc 3. if npc has he got pvp on
09:39.00Mikmai think npc's without pvp can't be healed
09:39.31tumetomthe general in aq20 has pvp on?
09:39.36nevcairielyes
09:39.37Mikmayeap
09:39.42nevcairielyou even get pvp when you heal him
09:39.53tumetomok thx
09:40.18Mikmaimho the best tactic there is to have a priest with sticky targeting on and with macro to /target lieutenant /cast Flash Heal(Rank 9)
09:40.36Mikmathen put the priest as MT nr.x
09:40.49nevcairielwe always designate one healer to heal only the npcs
09:40.52Mikmaand everyone can see lieutenant's health and heal him easily :)
09:41.08WobinOr you can assign him a raidicon
09:41.12Wobinand then paintball him
09:41.14Wobinlots
09:41.14nevcairielor that
09:41.43Mikmawell i'm usually the priest within MT frame and lieutenant targeted :)
09:42.09[Ammo]we don't bother healing him usually :)
09:42.18Mikmalol
09:42.18Wobinnevcairiel: (Did you email the svn request?
09:42.20Wobin)
09:42.22Mikmafull epic jerks xD
09:42.23nevcairielyes
09:42.25Wobink
09:42.26[Ammo]he dies 4th wave or so
09:42.26Wobin=)
09:42.28nevcairielclaidhaire@gmail
09:42.30nevcairieli think
09:42.33[Ammo]without healing
09:42.36Mikmawe need to heal him to survive the whole battle
09:42.38Wobinno first i
09:42.41Wobincladhaire
09:42.44[Ammo]depending on how fast we dps that day
09:42.51[Ammo]but yeah full epix == rajaxx easymode
09:42.56Mikmaif he's alive at Generall Rajaxx, the General goes down really fast
09:42.58nevcairielonly typo, mailed it right .)
09:43.10nevcairielif he is alive, it gives reputation. :)
09:43.14nevcairielthats why we heal
09:43.17Mikmaand the lieutenant's aura reduces the need to heal people :)
09:43.17[Ammo]rep == exalted
09:43.25nevcairieli am too lazy to farm
09:43.35[Ammo]sometimes he lives
09:43.38WobinAura == <3
09:43.41[Ammo]because we pull aggro of him
09:43.42Mikmaand he sells epic-patterns!
09:43.45WobinWe just stick a pally on him
09:43.56MikmaWobin: Aura == <3 :)
09:43.59WobinUsually with a lot of library paste
09:44.21nevcairielwith our epic group i get bored anyway .. ( being a resto druid ) .. so i heal that general thing :p
09:44.28[Ammo]hehe
09:44.30WobinBut our pally likes to run around half nekkid, so I'm sure it's not too much of a burden on the Lieu
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09:48.06CodayusIt's worth keeping the general alive.
09:48.17CodayusThe aura is nice...the rep can be helpful.
09:48.25CodayusBut...he sells 5 very cheap major mana pots.
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09:48.41nevcairieli never managed to buy the mana pots yet.
09:48.45CodayusAlways a race to ninja those when we do the encounter. :-)
09:48.49nevcairielthey all rush there like ..
09:48.56CodayusI've got hmm....12 of the last 20.  :-)
09:49.05CodayusI recommend using Free Refills.
09:49.08CodayusFor faster buying.
09:49.42CodayusPlus, he takes almost no healing until the last wave.
09:50.03nevcairielsince the last patch, he doesnt manage to hold aggro of the last waves boss
09:50.18CodayusYeah...he survives a lot easier, but he won't be your only tank.
09:50.39CodayusStill, his aura will handle healing on the rest of the raid, so that's fine.
09:50.55nevcairielyap
10:02.32Mikmaanyone can tell me can i use this: SetBinding("key", self:Function())
10:02.33Mikmaor does it have to be a actual keybind?
10:02.41Wobinargh
10:02.44Wobinso many frames
10:03.08Wobin70 lines of "MakeMeABar"
10:03.27MikmaWobin: hmmh?
10:03.40WobinI'm tacking on an additional rep bar to fuxpfu
10:03.49Mikmaok
10:04.00Wobinwhich means an extra bar, an extra two sparks, and an extra norep bar
10:04.02Mikmai thought you were talking about Bartender2 Dreamlayout :D
10:04.13Mikmasince i DO make 70 small frames with it ;)
10:04.19Mikmaoh sorry
10:04.28Wobinheh lines =)
10:04.33Mikmapurl: 7*12
10:04.39purl84
10:05.01Mikmaso when i'll do the petbar and shapebar too, there will be 104 small frames ;)
10:05.24Mikmaand, if i do the same for bags, 109 frames
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10:10.53oxmanhum
10:11.03oxmanthe spells aren't gray when it's out of range
10:11.04oxman:(
10:11.07oxmanwith bartender2
10:11.56Sykoticyou'll need RedRange
10:12.16Sykoticor something else that works to that effect
10:12.18nevcairielRedRange works quite well with Bartender :)
10:12.36Mikmaindeed
10:12.39Mikmai use it myself too
10:13.01SykoticThat dreamlayour is the most exquisite thing i've seen in a long while Mikma :P
10:13.26Sykoticreally happy with Bt2 atm
10:13.39MikmaSykotic: i'm really glad you like it :)
10:13.57oxmanbut before i use nothing :|
10:14.06oxmanso why you remove the default outofrange from blizz ?
10:14.36Sykoticaccording to Iriel, redrange is even better than the default range detection
10:14.37Mikmathere ain't no default
10:14.46Mikmaatleast not that i have noticed :D
10:14.46oxmanwhy Sykotic ?
10:14.47Sykoticor the blizz provided one :P
10:15.02Sykotic*shrugs* just reading the wrapping
10:15.26oxmani don't know why its better than the bliz redrange
10:16.10Mikmaanyone knows how to make keybinds within .lua? :D
10:16.27oxmanwithout Bindins.xml ?
10:16.28oxmanyou can't
10:16.31Mikmavhaarr and i are thinking of new module for bt2 and dont' wan't to do .xml
10:16.33oxmanbut you can with api 2.0
10:16.34oxman:)
10:16.36Mikmayes you can according to wowwiki
10:16.43oxmanhow ?
10:16.47Mikmahttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_RunBinding
10:16.57Mikma"The "command" argument must match one of the (usually capitalized) binding names in a Bindings.xml file. This can be a name that appears in the Blizzard FrameXML Bindings.xml, or one that is specified in an AddOn."
10:17.52nevcairielIt only says that you can run stuff from Blizz default Bindings.xml or Addon Bindings.xml
10:18.03oxmanyep
10:20.43SykoticHey Mikma, just wondering- do you have it on the cards at all to be able to break up a bar with Bt2? ie. in half (for smaller uses, like potions)
10:20.58Sykotic(I know it's probably been asked lots, my apologies :P)
10:21.05nevcairielhe doesnt plan to :p
10:21.27Mikmayeah too much to handle for me atm
10:21.36FISKER_QMikma
10:21.41SykoticHehe, no problems, I'll just rethink the way I'm sitting things out :P
10:21.43FISKER_Qlink to that oskin dir you had again
10:22.02Mikmahttp://mikma.reaktio.net/oSkin
10:22.41FISKER_Qi hope it's 1337 enough for molten core
10:22.42Mikmawell i think if people are interested in that they can do a module for it
10:23.10Mikmathat's the beauty of svn+addons :)
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10:23.45Mikmalike atm vhaarr is propably making a module for bt2, which is nice and means i don't have to do everything :D
10:24.10Mikmasomeone asked for the snapping etc. it can also be done with module ;)
10:24.20Mikmanot pointing any fingers but kergoth did it earlier lol
10:24.50vhaarrgive snapping!
10:24.53vhaarr>_<
10:25.08kergothstickyframes is incredibly easy to work with
10:25.12kergothanyone could add support for it
10:25.20nevcairieldo it! :)
10:26.32oxmanbut does sticky can do align too ?
10:26.41oxmanalign two frames but not stick them ?
10:27.47kergothno, but someone else did an addon that makes a grid to do alignment with
10:27.51kergothcheck wowi
10:28.03oxmani prefer a grid addon than a sticky :)
10:28.10oxmanbut anyway, not very useful
10:29.06MikmaSnapToGrid
10:30.15Mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4948
10:30.54FISKER_Qlmao
10:31.08FISKER_Q[2006/09/07 12:28:32-97]: FuBar_FuXPFu\FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:361: AceLocale(FuXP): Translation "%s:%s left %3.0f%% (%s/%s)" does not exist.
10:31.25FISKER_Q[2006/09/07 12:29:02-97]: last message repeated 1069 times <-imo should've done 1069 fatalities
10:31.52nevcairieli love the new bugsack for error throttling
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10:34.27oxmanRophy i've found a bug in scl
10:34.40Rophyyes?
10:34.49oxmanbut don't remember exactly ;p
10:34.52Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2138.msg40978.html#msg40978
10:34.55oxmani will tell you when i remember :)
10:34.59MikmaRophy: i also foudn a bug
10:34.59Rophyok
10:35.06oxmanits something like a problem of color in line 650 or something like that
10:36.17Rophyare you able to reproduce it?
10:36.26oxmanI believe yes
10:36.33oxman20 times this error :D
10:36.36oxmanit's tedious :p
10:36.40oxmanbut nothing for the moment
10:36.56Rophywhat were you doing at that time?
10:37.04oxmanpvp
10:37.17Rophyhmm
10:37.26oxmanyesterday in AQ40 this error 5 or 6 times
10:37.32oxmantoday 5 or 6 times in pvp
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10:38.57oxmani've the error
10:39.01oxmansimplecombatlog;lua
10:39.17oxmansimplecombatlog.lua 603 attempt to index local color a nil value
10:39.59oxmanagainst an hunter
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10:40.31DarkImakuniI've had a look at EBB. I like it, and I'd love to see a toggle to have the bar on the left and the icon on the right, rather than bar on right and icon on left :)
10:41.05Rophyhmmm ok
10:41.50MikmaDarkImakuni: i'd love to see a toggle for the bar for on and off so there would be nothing more than icon and time ;)
10:42.19oxmanand now agasint a rogue :p
10:42.27RophyMikma is the bug you found different to the one oxman just said?
10:42.41Rophyseveral people reported to me the same bug
10:42.49Rophybut i dun have time to try to reprouce it yet :\
10:42.53MikmaRophy: well i was just imitating oxman actually. "i found a bug. i don't know what it is"
10:43.02Rophyoh lol
10:43.09oxman:p
10:43.26Mikmawhich is something like: Rophy: I found a bug. plz fix it asap
10:43.33Mikmaand post that into forums
10:43.42oxmanI only ask to know if Rophy is here
10:43.47oxmanand i know my bug come every 10mn
10:43.51oxman:p
10:43.56SykoticDarkImakuni, i'm pretty sure that's already built in
10:44.00RophyI'll go into a BG see if I can get that bug to happen
10:44.15Sykoticicon [left/right/none]
10:44.21Sykoticyep, it's there on ebb
10:44.24oxmanits in fr local Rophy
10:44.59Sykotichehe ;)
10:45.28MikmaRophy: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1860.msg40987.html#msg40987
10:46.30Rophyfr client again...
10:46.39Sykotichere's one for nostalgia's sake...I bumped into Rowne recently
10:46.44Sykotiche was working on Oblivion mods
10:47.39MikmaRophy: "get yourself a english client you bread stick boy!"
10:47.45oxman:p
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10:48.02oxmani try to help you Rophy with that :
10:48.10oxmanfunction SimpleCombatLog:GetColor(id, colorType)
10:48.10oxmanDEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("id: "..tostring(id).." colorType: "..tostring(colorType))
10:48.44Rophyand the result is?
10:48.50oxmanI dunno for the moment ;p
10:48.54Rophyok :p
10:49.03Rophyi added some debug outputs too
10:49.11Rophybut i can't reproduce any error messages :\
10:50.03oxmanah ah ah
10:50.05oxmanthe result is...
10:50.08oxmanno display :||||
10:50.47oxmanhum
10:50.51oxmani've forget to upload the file ;/
10:50.53oxmanwait :)
10:50.55Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=268 lol owned
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10:52.10oxmando you've also a strange thing with clique ?
10:52.19oxmanif i do a click casting on a target out of range or something like that
10:52.24oxmanthe cursor wait target become gray
10:52.40oxmanand i can't do anything except right click on the worldframe to cancel this gray cursor
10:52.43oxman(grey / gray)
10:53.49Mikmamm nope
10:54.39oxmanyou use perfectraid ?
10:55.02oxmando a clique casting (for me : left click) on a target out of range
10:55.15oxmanhop grey cursor wait target, but you can't do anything
10:55.31oxmancan't click at all, except right click on worldframe to disable that
10:56.20Mikmawell use shift+leftclick like me :P
10:56.29oxmani want use leftclick :p
10:56.49oxmanthen same problem with shift+leftclick
10:57.29JoshBorkeusing newest version of clique?
10:57.51oxmanupdated yesterday or before
10:57.58oxmanbut same problem since 14 days ago
10:58.29oxman(updated for ora2 mt support)
10:58.50kergothi hate when i'm fishing in wreckage or elemental water
10:58.55kergothand it goes 'your fish got away!'
10:59.02kergothhow the fuck does an inanimate object get away?
10:59.24nevcairielhow the fuck does an inanimate object bite your lure?
10:59.48Mikmahow the fuck can cows dance?
11:00.03DarkImakunilol
11:00.20evlAnyone played with SE-Aura-2.0=
11:00.36Mikmaevl: tekkub has
11:00.49kergothnevcairiel: well, i can see getting your hook on something in the wreckage, for example.  the bobber wouldnt bob, of course, until you started reeling though
11:01.02[Ammo]evl: it works, but not for debuffs with same name but different texture etf
11:01.11[Ammo]evl: I tried to fix that but kinda broke it so reverted again
11:01.15evl[Ammo]: I can't figure out how to use it :)
11:01.22[Ammo]rtfm
11:01.31evlhttp://www.wowace.com/index.php/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0
11:01.32[Ammo]api documentation is up on the wiki
11:01.52evlI can't mix it in?
11:02.21[Ammo]you don't need to
11:02.29[Ammo]you can either load it and register for events
11:02.40evllocal aura = AceLibrary("SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0") and then aura:RegisterEvent("whatever") ?
11:02.53vhaarryes
11:03.05[Ammo]moment, phone
11:03.26vhaarrevl: look at bigwigs_healbotassist
11:03.32vhaarrevl: I use SEEA there
11:03.36evlexcellent
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11:06.49vhaarrgah, I want to remake ReagentFu for FBP2, anyone know a good name I could use?
11:07.22Frittiwhat does it do?
11:07.25vhaarrFuBar_ReagentTrackerFu, FuBar_ReagentCounterFu, FuBar_[Count|Track]ReagentsFu
11:07.40vhaarrit tells you how many reagents for spells you have in your bag
11:07.58FrittiFuBar_WhatCanICastFu ? nah. lame.
11:08.13FrittiI'm not in a creative mood right now it seems, sorry.
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11:08.16[Ammo]if you don't use the HasDebuff, DebuffIter etc functions you don't even need to do local aura = AceLibrar()...
11:08.17vhaarr:)
11:08.33[Ammo]you can just register the SpecialEvents_UnitGainedAura etc events
11:08.38DarkImakunii like ReagentTrackerFu myself
11:08.40vhaarr[Ammo]: how can I be sure the library has loaded then?
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11:08.45Solehai2u
11:08.48vhaarrhey
11:08.48[Ammo]vhaarr: by putting it in your .toc?
11:08.54vhaarr[Ammo]: ^^
11:09.09Solehow is everyone tonight?
11:09.14[Ammo]see how I do it for oRA2 with the Participant/Buff.lua
11:09.51Soleanybody find any bugs with hostel?
11:10.02[Ammo]don't really use it so can't say I found anything with it :)
11:10.12Soletsk tsk
11:10.17Soleand you helped in the creation of it
11:10.25[Ammo]so?
11:10.49Soleso bleh
11:10.51[Ammo]:)
11:13.27Solei was thinking
11:13.56Soleaddon idea that I mentioned but nobody listened to me so Im gonna say it again
11:14.10Solea properly done color combo points ^__^
11:14.55Soleyes/no/fuck off?
11:14.58Soleanybody? :(
11:15.00Solei feel so alone
11:15.02maiamaybe.
11:15.09maia;p
11:15.15Solewell i was just thinking
11:15.31Solemaybe add an option to flash the 4th and 5th combo point boxes
11:15.40Solewouldnt be too hard  I think
11:15.53Solejust a simple yellow outline that makes it more obvious
11:16.05Soleor maybe that would be too much flashy on the screen?
11:16.14maianever played a rogue, so I cant comment on your idea.
11:16.38Solehttp://static.curse-gaming.com/mscreens/10633.jpg
11:16.43Solewell look at that screenshot
11:16.48Solethat is the current one that Im using
11:16.57Solebut Ive always never liked the code behind it
11:17.00MikmaSole: don't cry for me argentina
11:17.29Soleand the fact that the customization is kinda non existant is a bit sucky too
11:17.42SoleMikma: ^-^
11:17.48Solethats all I got to say to you
11:20.04Soleguess its quiet night tonight in here
11:20.53CIA-1103evl * r10397 10/branches/AutoAttack/ (22 files in 12 dirs): * Initial import of Ace2 conversion
11:21.21oxmanRophy i believe i've found the bug
11:21.26oxman"Arcane" for colortype
11:22.12Rophywhat is it in french?
11:22.23oxmanhum not arcane too in english ?
11:22.28oxmanone of three for mage
11:22.37oxmanfire, ice, arcane
11:22.40Rophyyes it is "arcane" for english, it is the same for french?
11:22.43oxmandon't know the name in english
11:22.45oxmanyep
11:22.56Rophyhmm
11:23.04oxmanthe bug is the caps i think
11:23.24oxmanall other words is in lower
11:23.30oxman(shadow not Shadow for example)
11:24.05oxmancolorType = string.lower(colorType)
11:24.07oxmanI try that
11:24.15Solegnite guys
11:24.20oxmangn
11:24.57Rophyoxman
11:25.04Rophyis it "Arcane" or "Arcanes" ?
11:25.10oxman"Arcane"
11:25.25Rophyok... so the problem is that
11:25.33Rophythe SPELL_SCHOOL6_CAP in french is "Arcanes"
11:25.38oxmanok
11:25.40Rophybut it is "Arcane" in combat log :\
11:25.54oxmanstupid bliz
11:26.12oxmanyou need to add a dirty fix :p
11:26.23Rophythe 'shadow' is also bugged like that in chinese localziation
11:26.28Rophyand i have to fix it manually.
11:26.36oxmanok
11:26.40oxmanadd too for french so :)
11:27.47oxmani've check school0 to 6 seems to be not other bug
11:28.45Rophyhmm
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11:29.37Mikmavhaarr: any luck? :)
11:30.09vhaarrMikma: pvp'ing atm, sorry :P
11:30.09CIA-1103evl 07Evl * r10398 10AutoAttack/AutoAttack/ (11 files in 10 dirs):
11:30.10CIA-11* Let's pretend we remembered externals when importing
11:30.10CIA-11* Updated toc to reflect what's being used
11:30.10CIA-11* Added several debug messages for testing purposes
11:30.40Mikmavhaarr: 'sorry'? /slap
11:30.52vhaarro_O
11:31.16evlFeel free to test!
11:31.19evlI'm at work so can't ;)
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11:31.41Rophyoxman: I can't event find the word "Arcane" in french GlobalStrings.lua
11:31.48Rophyeven*
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11:32.04oxman:/
11:32.25RophyAnd I hate having to manually adjust things for each localization :\
11:32.42oxmanyep but you must ;/
11:33.12RophyI'm going to fix it so that if there is an unknown element type, it'll be treated as 'physical'.
11:33.28oxmanso arcane will be physical in french ? :|
11:33.29oxmantoo bad
11:33.37Rophyand you can optionally fix the globalstrings
11:33.45oxmanonly because you don't want hard coding that, its too bad
11:34.33RophyI'll fix that too, just that next time there is another problem like this, it'll not report error
11:34.42oxmanok so its fine
11:35.06MikmaRophy: "French version detected! Disabling SCL and removing WoW!"
11:35.24oxmanah ah ;p
11:35.30RophyzhTW and zhCH have the same stupid problem for 'shadow'
11:35.48Rophyso I'll have to remove SCL for 3 localizations out of 6 :p
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11:36.02oxmanmaybe tell that to slouken
11:36.06oxmanmaybe its a mistake from bliz
11:36.25Rophyit is a localization problem
11:36.46Rophymany words in GlobalStrings.lua are localized incorrectly
11:36.53Rophyfor some languages
11:37.05oxmanOk i can tell that in localization french forums
11:37.07Mikmathat's the problem for multilingual games
11:37.16Mikmause english or don't play. :D
11:37.26oxman:p
11:37.42Mikma(just my 5 coppers)
11:38.03Rophythen I dont have to spend so much effort on writing the ParserLib :\
11:38.05Rophy:p
11:39.13Mikmahttp://www.frozen-bubble.org/images/screenshots.png
11:42.24FISKER_Qcan't wait to get eviscerate rank 9
11:43.14oxmani can ;p
11:44.52phyberMikma: new feature looks like internet multiplayer.  your screen in the middle with other people around you.
11:45.04JoshBorkeok bye :-)
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11:45.41FISKER_Qi just made an eviscerate for 2470 or so
11:45.51FISKER_Q<- i liek
11:46.00FISKER_Qneed rank 9 though
11:48.21FISKER_Qwho made archud btw?
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12:09.49evlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBsD1xIpJUI
12:10.56CIA-1103rabbit * r10399 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (5 files):
12:10.56CIA-11BigWigs: Naxxramas:
12:10.56CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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12:11.26Wobinhm
12:11.35FISKER_QWobin :()
12:11.39FISKER_Qfix FuXPFu :P
12:11.40Wobindon't suppose anyone can move the FuXPFu forum topic to the Ace2 forum?
12:11.53WobinFISKER_Q: What's wrong with it?
12:12.28FISKER_Q[2006/09/07 12:28:32-97]: FuBar_FuXPFu\FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:361: AceLocale(FuXP): Translation "%s:%s left %3.0f%% (%s/%s)" does not exist.
12:12.32FISKER_Qtimes 10000
12:12.36Wobinbah
12:12.37Wobinokies
12:13.31CIA-1103wobin * r10400 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuXPLocals.lua:
12:13.31CIA-11FuBar_FuXPFu:
12:13.31CIA-11- fix for Locale restringing
12:14.03FISKER_Q/femalenightelfdance Wobin
12:14.18Wobinare you a female night elf?
12:14.22FISKER_Qnope
12:14.24WobinCause otherwise, that's a very scary dance
12:14.52FISKER_Qfemale nightelf dance is just the best
12:15.08WobinI like the male draenei dance.
12:15.08FISKER_Qbtw Mikma you there?
12:15.11WobinTUNAK TUNAK!
12:15.14FrittiWobin: any chance of an Ace2 ArmchairAlchemist?
12:15.15FISKER_Qof course
12:15.23FISKER_Qbut as teh sexeh it's not good :/
12:15.57WobinFritti: We'll see after I get this next version of fuxp out
12:16.44Frittidunno how far along Ace2 PT is of course
12:16.49vhaarrMrPlow T_T
12:16.54FrittiI was just wondering if you where still maintaining it :)
12:17.04WobinHave there been many new recipes?
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12:17.41Frittihmm, don't think so, but I'm not an alchemist myself :)
12:17.45Frittihence I need the armchair
12:18.52FrittiI was idly wondering what addons from my list were still using Ace1, turns out it's not a lot - AceTimer, AceAdlibber, ArmchairAlchemist, FuBar_Tracker, KC_Items, Mendeleev and PerfectRaid
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12:19.49FISKER_QWobin needs to start on plowking again
12:19.50MikmaFISKER_Q: ya
12:19.53FISKER_Qengbags is cool
12:19.59MikmaFISKER_Q: i have arrived
12:20.03FISKER_Qthe oskin thing only worked for one of my character s:(
12:21.05Mikmamm?
12:21.24FISKER_Qyeah
12:21.28FISKER_Qworked on one of my alts
12:22.11Mikmafunny, fix it :P
12:22.13FISKER_Qaaah
12:22.18FISKER_Qi get it
12:22.27FISKER_Qyou make a frame not a chatwindow >D
12:22.34FISKER_Qso of course my chat window should be transparent
12:22.38Mikmaphyber: didn't quite get that to be gonest :P
12:23.08Mikmas/gonest/honest/
12:24.08Wobinoh man
12:24.10Wobin"I would ask you if is it possible to convert it in a casting bar  :)  I mean, sometimes i have no reputation or exp to show and i would see it animated so, if possible, can you add an option in the menu to let it work as a casting bar?"
12:24.18phyberMikma: ?
12:24.27FISKER_Qwtf_
12:24.27FISKER_Q?
12:24.33FISKER_Qhow the hell would you go around doing that?
12:24.34FISKER_Q:D
12:24.36evllol
12:24.44WobinIT's a hell of a long casting bar =)
12:24.44evllet's name spoons spoons imho
12:24.46Mikmaphyber: 14:44 #wowace: <phyber> Mikma: new feature looks like internet multiplayer.  your screen in the middle with other people around you.
12:24.59WobinMikma: The bubblebobble screenshot
12:25.15MikmaWobin: oooh yeah propably
12:25.18FISKER_Qawww man Mikma
12:25.21FISKER_Qlooks hot
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12:25.29Mikmai'm weally weally tiwed
12:26.55phyberoh
12:27.14FISKER_Qi am very happy with you Mikma
12:28.03Mikmalike the song said: "Saaaaatisfaction, guaranteeeee-eeeeeeed"
12:33.53CIA-1103evl 07Evl * r10401 10AutoAttack/AutoAttack/AutoAttack.toc: * Ain't really using AceDB
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12:37.27oxmanyeah no bug anymore about grey casting
12:37.34oxmanit was a bug about a wrong hooking :)
12:39.03Mikmain what and why
12:40.45oxmanin my addon
12:40.50oxmaneasycancel
12:40.50oxman:)
12:40.54oxmanstill in alpha :p
12:41.15Mikmaeasyalpha
12:41.25oxman;)
12:44.18oxmanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16611721&postId=165102392&sid=1#0
12:44.21oxmanin the deepness :(
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12:54.38Wobinthe wiki down for anyone else?
12:54.42Wobinwowwiki that os
12:55.47evlYes
12:55.56evlSomeone call the POLICE
12:57.38hasteThis has to be the work of zeeg!
12:57.47evlnope
12:57.55evlClearly a plot set it motion by Peer
13:02.16nevcairielSaroz: you around?
13:02.18oxmananyone can up this thread ?
13:02.19oxmanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16611721&postId=165102392&sid=1#0
13:05.21Icerothuh, anyone else having problems with oRA? i seem to get "oRA\oRA_Core.lua:290: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value)" every time someone joins the raid and i took the latest version from svn 15mins ago
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13:06.15hastethat error has been there for ages :3
13:09.04FISKER_QWobin
13:09.19Wobin?
13:09.20Icerothhmh.. never occured to me before
13:09.30FISKER_QCan\t you make the fubar text appear like the paste-into-chatbox text on the rep
13:09.42Wobinit's a bit long, isn't it?
13:09.55FISKER_Qjust meant the way it was written
13:10.09FISKER_Qcause it looks like you mean 62% left as it's written in the menu
13:10.30FISKER_Qso write xx% (x/x) x left
13:10.37FISKER_Qinstead of x left xx% (x/x)
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13:13.23Wobin%s: %3.0f%% (%s/%s) %s left
13:13.24Wobin?
13:14.31FISKER_Qyeah i guess :P
13:15.39Wobinbah
13:15.42WobinI just realised.
13:15.51Wobinoh no that's alright
13:15.56WobinI thought I couldn't test =P
13:16.02WobinBut I'm sure I can find a server that's up
13:16.38tumetomis it possible to gove fubar a position in de middle of the screen?
13:16.50tumetomby default it ether docks to the top or to the bottom
13:17.12jjungnickel[x] detach poanel
13:17.14nevcairieldetach it
13:17.34jjungnickelthen drag it all the way you like
13:18.06tumetom-.- thx
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13:20.37vhaarrMikma: it is working ^^
13:21.21Mikmavhaarr: good good
13:21.27vhaarrI'll commit in a sec
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13:28.35CIA-1103rabbit * r10402 10Bartender2_BindingSwap/ (. Bartender2_BindingSwap.toc BindingSwap.lua Bindings.xml): Bartender2_BindingSwap: Initial import. Adds keybindings that moves the keybindings from bar1 around to bar1-6. For example Shift+3 would remove all keybindings from bar1 and apply them to bar3.
13:28.39vhaarrMikma: there you go :)
13:28.51vhaarrMikma: but bartender2 does not update the keybinding display properly
13:28.58vhaarrMikma: the bindings are changed, however
13:29.11vhaarrbut BT2 still shows the old bindings on some buttons
13:29.53vhaarrFinally I can delete DAB.
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13:30.44vhaarrhrm
13:30.52vhaarrI just realised it is not dependant on BT2 at all
13:30.53Healthvhaarr: I needed to restart to make the keys look pretty
13:31.03vhaarrHealth: And you're telling me?
13:31.07vhaarrah
13:31.13vhaarrWell, I've restarted already.
13:31.25Mikmavhaarr: :)
13:31.32HealthSmartiepants!
13:31.42vhaarrthat's right!
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13:34.29vhaarrDarkImakuni: you do know that the /welcome emote in WoW is actually a response to "Thank you", as in "You're welcome"?
13:34.41vhaarrGod there are many who don't get that.
13:35.09Mikmavhaarr: you *can* make it bt2 dependant if you wish so, just make it use Bar(1-5+10)Button(1-12) ;)
13:35.20vhaarrMikma: ^^
13:35.29vhaarrMikma: Well it works with BT2 now and *possible* other addons :P
13:35.32Mikmavhaarr: remember that you need to make a check for shapeshifters etc
13:35.35vhaarrbetter to keep it that way ;)
13:35.41vhaarrerr
13:35.43vhaarryou fix.
13:35.46vhaarr^^
13:35.48Mikmanope :D
13:35.50Mikmayour addon
13:36.19CIA-1103rabbit * r10403 10Bartender2_BindingSwap/Bartender2_BindingSwap.toc:
13:36.19CIA-11Bartender2_BindingSwap: Move bartender2 to OptionalDeps since we do not really
13:36.19CIA-11depend on it, but I have no idea how other bar addons number their bars and
13:36.19CIA-11buttons, etc, so .. In any case, removed "Ace2" from name since we do not use it
13:36.19CIA-11at all.
13:36.21Mikmayou know if person is shapeshifted/stanced he uses Bar10 (Bonusactionbutton1-12)
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13:36.53vhaarrokay well I have a druid
13:36.57vhaarrI'll fix it when I play him again
13:37.01vhaarrwhich happens rarely, but
13:38.08CIA-1103oxman * r10404 10BabbleLib/Babble-Boss-2.0/Babble-Boss-2.0.lua: Babble-Boss: Sapphiron french
13:39.45vhaarrI wonder if anyone else will use it, lol
13:39.55vhaarrsince I'm the only one who has mentioned it :P
13:41.02hasteWhat do you think when you incldue hip hop in a jazz/funk song?
13:41.52vhaarrOr in a country song.
13:41.55vhaarr><
13:43.08Azurewrathonly very sick people do include hiphop in anything ;p
13:43.46hastethe song is good tho', before and after the hiphop part
13:45.02Tupladhip hop is fine
13:45.44hastenot when it's combined with Jazz
13:46.10CartasYou tell 'im, Haste!
13:46.12hasteor anything else for that matter
13:46.29CartasLike ears...
13:47.37Tupladhaste: not really
13:47.43Tupladhaste: it's just fine with jazz
13:47.58vhaarroxman: some people post frFR translations of BW bosses on the forums
13:48.02vhaarroxman: feel free to commit them
13:49.00oxmanok
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13:52.18DarkImakunivhaarr: soz mate, was afk :P
13:52.31DarkImakunii always used /welcome to say hi...
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13:53.10Tupladumm
13:53.13Tupladwhat's wrong with /welcome then ?
13:53.22Industrialwelcome :Unknown command
13:53.35TupladYou can use it as welcoming someone to somewhere orlike: "You're welcome" after giving some item or shit
13:53.41vhaarr<PROTECTED>
13:53.48vhaarrIt's NOT a "Hi there" emote.
13:53.52vhaarrIn WoW.
13:53.55Tuplad<PROTECTED>
13:54.42DarkImakuniwhat? i can't say 'welcomes Tuplad' any more :P
13:55.00sedatedChipmunk/hello is that command
13:55.19vhaarror /greet
13:56.49FISKER_Qi love the EU community team
13:57.09evlI love them too, and this bathing suit http://archive.pixbox.se/arkivet/synligt_17/04230000-04239999/640x480/4230276.jpg?0
13:57.21FISKER_QI was banned for "harrassment" because i wrote a topic about Crezax being condescending
13:57.22evlYou might say I like that bathing suit even more in some occasions
13:57.22FISKER_Qw00
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14:04.01FtH|eagleanyone good with photoshop?
14:04.27oxmangimp is open and free
14:04.42FtH|eagle...
14:04.50FtH|eaglethat wasn't my question
14:04.54oxman:p
14:05.30TupladFtH|eagle: Im good with Gimp the Pimp.
14:05.50FtH|eagleI need someone who is familiar with photoshop, not gimp
14:06.10sedatedChipmunkdun know jack 'bout PS; but I can help you with the GIMP =)
14:06.27AzurewrathFtH|eagle: a bit.. what do you want to know? :)
14:06.28hasteI know quite a lot about Photoshop 5.5 !
14:06.35hasteor did at least
14:06.43DarkImakuniI know how to break it
14:06.53sedatedChipmunkoh, that's true
14:07.05TupladFtH|eagle: I worked like 4 years with photoshop
14:07.09sedatedChipmunkI do know about 5.5
14:07.10TupladFtH|eagle: quit doing it 2 years ago though
14:08.04sedatedChipmunkI know that it sucks and you should use GIMP
14:08.08wereHamstersedatedChipmunk, in the new gimp, how do I select the color? The color dialog seems to have gone from the main window
14:08.12FtH|eagleI'll ask azurewrath right now, if he doesn't know it, I'll come to you :)
14:08.29IndustrialIf i tell my designer to use the gimp he will slap me with the paint bucket
14:08.43sedatedChipmunkit's a tab in the tool windows
14:08.58sedatedChipmunk2.3, right?
14:09.17Wobinmeh
14:09.32WobinHow do I get a radiobox list using the Fubar-plugin?
14:10.08wereHamsteryep, 3.2
14:10.11wereHamster2.3
14:10.35sedatedChipmunkyea, it's just a standard tool window now
14:10.48vhaarrWobin: isn't that what you asked earlier? :)
14:10.53Wobinyeah
14:10.56Wobinbut I can't get it working
14:11.00Wobinall I get is a textbox
14:11.10wereHamstersedatedChipmunk, thanks, found it :)
14:11.14[Ammo]Wobin: make sure there is only a limited choices in validate
14:11.26WobinI'm sending Validate a table
14:11.27[Ammo]so: validate = {"option1", "my option", "zomg another one"},
14:11.31vhaarrI told him to use validate = { "1", "2" } earlier
14:11.41[Ammo]that should work
14:11.54sedatedChipmunkfile->Dialogs->Colors
14:12.03vhaarrWobin: and get should be false, I think.
14:12.18vhaarrno
14:12.30vhaarrget should not be false
14:12.47vhaarrWobin: It's just a standard text AceConsole entry with validate returning a table.
14:12.56vhaarrThat should give you a radiobox list.
14:13.56Wobinwhat should get return?
14:15.46vhaarrthe value it is currently set to
14:15.57vhaarrwhich should be one of the options in the validate table
14:16.12Wobinhm
14:16.18nevcairieli am here
14:16.19nevcairiel:)
14:16.20WobinI suspect I'll need to use "1"
14:16.41vhaarrno
14:17.01vhaarrvalidate = {"My first option", "My second option", "you are a camel" }
14:17.14vhaarrget = function() return self.db.profile.value end
14:17.25vhaarrset = function(v) self.db.profile.value = v end
14:17.31WobinI'm trying for factions atm, so I have a number for the faction index, but a text for the listing
14:17.35vhaarrand then self.db.profile.value will be one of the validate entries
14:17.43vhaarrWobin: was that clear?
14:17.46Saroznevcairiel, give diff
14:18.04WobinI generally end up with {2 = "Darkspear Trolls", 3 = "Thunder Bluff", 5 = "Undercity" } etc
14:18.10vhaarrthat's wrong
14:18.22nevcairielSaroz: one sec, optimizing something
14:18.27vhaarr{"Darkspear Trolls", "Thunder Bluff", "Undercity" }
14:18.29vhaarris right
14:18.33Wobinyeah, which is why I think I'll have to end up with using "1"
14:18.45WobinWhich doesn't help me in keeping the index =)
14:19.43FtH|eagleit's not wrong, both are correct
14:19.55FtH|eagleyou can use keys for the back end, and values for the front-end
14:20.37nevcairielSaroz: need to strip out
14:20.42nevcairielmeh, damn keyboard
14:20.42Wobinunfortunately, I still don't get the dropdown list
14:20.49nevcairielneed to strip out my other changes :P
14:20.54FtH|eaglepastebin?
14:23.17Wobinhttp://ace.pastey.net/655
14:23.54vhaarrrepList[factionIndex..""]
14:23.57vhaarrwhy the "" ?
14:24.18Wobinto make it text indexed
14:24.22Wobinrather than numerical
14:24.39krkarepList[tostring(factionIndex)]
14:24.41vhaarrtostring(factionIndex)
14:24.50Wobinnot the issue =)
14:24.59vhaarrwell that should work fine
14:25.02vhaarrwhat is the problem now?
14:25.16WobinI'm not getting any sort of dropdown radiolist from my fubar plugin
14:25.33TupladAcePlayerMenu: AcePlayerMenu: use AceLocale-2.1 instead of 2.0
14:25.34Tuplad:O
14:26.04vhaarrWobin: ah
14:26.13vhaarrWobin: because validate is not a table, it's a function
14:26.25Wobin=(
14:26.33WobinYou mean there's no way to dynamically assign that table?
14:26.48Wobinmaybe if I set a global....
14:26.49vhaarrjust do |validate = FuXP:QueryFactions()| ?
14:27.02vhaarrI don't know
14:27.23nevcairielSaroz: http://nevcairiel.net/ace/sRaidFrames.diff
14:28.55nevcairielSaroz: ive tested it with some of my guild .. actually one of them asked for that feature so i decided to code it :)
14:30.02SarozI actually coded it once
14:30.09Sarozdidn't like the way I did it, so I removed it
14:30.31nevcairieli basicly check in the function where you display the frames anyway
14:30.42Sarozyea
14:30.50SarozI prefer to hide the group frame, instead of the subframes
14:31.13nevcairielHm
14:31.22nevcairielyeah i think it could do that
14:31.32Sarozhehe :)
14:31.43Sarozwill try and get it done tonight
14:32.00Sarozyou're using tooltips for debuffs, right?
14:32.06nevcairielya
14:32.14Sarozhow's that performing?
14:32.36nevcairieldidnt notice any problems or memory increase
14:35.22SarozI guess the advantage of your implementation is that you won't do UpdateUnit or UpdateBuffs on units that are hidden
14:35.30Sarozwont*
14:35.38nevcairielthat what i thought
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14:35.43Sarozye
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14:35.59Sarozbut the thing is
14:36.02nevcairielsave the performance for the hidden stuff
14:36.09Sarozyeye
14:36.34CIA-1103phyber * r10405 10MyAcePerc/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
14:36.35CIA-11MyAcePerc:
14:36.35CIA-11- Ace2 version of Instant's MyAcePerc. Keeping the name since the addon doesn't exist on WoWI with this name.
14:36.54phyberalmost one year since that addon was made :)
14:37.23phyberhopefully Tem doesn't mind that Ace is in the name.  it's in the middle, after all so it's not really Ace* ;)
14:38.20phyberif anyone has suggestions for cleaning up the tooltip processing line, it would be good.
14:38.31phyberI think I can probably do something with Gratuity there.
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14:40.16Frittiquestion about http://www.wowace.com/index.php/FuBarPlugin-2.0#:OnTooltipUpdate.28.29
14:40.21Frittihow does Tablet know the parent frame?
14:42.04CIA-1103ammo * r10406 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua:
14:42.04CIA-11CandyBar:
14:42.04CIA-11* SetReversed() and IsReversed() now available.
14:42.04CIA-11* Will make the bar grow instead of deplete.
14:42.49DarkImakuni_AFKis there a mod with CandyBar-style health/mana bars?
14:43.04phyberanyone know if StopTheLagness is still needed these days?
14:43.12phyberI still have that loaded from way back
14:43.23phyber## Interface: 1700
14:43.24phyber## Author: Turan
14:43.32Wobinyay
14:43.33Wobinokay
14:43.44Wobinjust had to generate the table before using it
14:43.47phyberif it is, I'll Ace2 that too :p
14:44.01WobinAlthough it won't hold up gaining a new faction I don't think =(
14:44.02Frittiwasn't thrae working on a 'fix blizz ui' addon?
14:44.07Frittithat included StopTheLagness
14:44.16phyberah, good then.
14:44.24phyberI'll just wait for that.
14:45.39hastenoes!
14:45.47hasteI don't want a "all in one fix my UI add on" :(
14:45.52[Ammo]DarkImakuni: you can set the agUF style to ABF with BantoBar texture
14:45.58Frittiphyber: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2117.0.html
14:45.58sbumh *still requesting nef respawn timer* :p
14:46.12[Ammo]sbu: buy a stopwatch kthxbye
14:46.46sbuactually my keyboard IS a stopwatch :/
14:47.18nevcairielSaroz: i optimized it even more, so that it wont show and hide hidden frames all the time, just keep them hidden .. if you still care ;) damn logic errors
14:47.42phyberok.  I guess I'll take a look at KeepItCool :|
14:49.13sbuphyber: yah, nice :)
14:50.55eternally777How do you bullet points in your SVN commit messages?
14:51.13FrittiI use -, others use *
14:51.28eternally777That automatically moves it to a new line as well?
14:51.41Frittinope
14:51.48Frittiyou specify messages on the command line or something?
14:51.58eternally777No, TSVN
14:52.18Frittihmm, I don't know that one. With most subversion clients you get an editor window when you commit.
14:52.22Frittiso you can just edit the commit message
14:52.53nevcairieljust try * and see if it automagically does some bullet-pointing :D
14:53.04eternally777Yeah, I think I'll do that
14:53.54Frittiif you don't insert an enter, it won't be on a separate line :)
14:58.35eternally777Well, we'll find out when/if CIA decides my commit is worthy of a broadcast.
14:58.47eternally777In the meantime, I'm running to the store for some caffeine.
14:59.50nevcairielevery commit is broadcasted :)
15:00.47RophyI read the wiki saying that AceLocale-2.0 will be deprecated?
15:00.47eternally777Oh, then I must've missed mine, because it definitely didn't show up on my end..
15:01.09nevcairielit didnt come through the rss feed either
15:01.15nevcairielyou sure you commited ? :D
15:01.22eternally777That's a subject of heated debate, Rophy.
15:01.33eternally777haha, yeah the files are there.
15:01.38eternally777Afk for 10 minutes
15:02.05RophyI thought both authors think their version is better.
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15:02.16nevcairielthey do
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15:02.35Rophybut then before they came to a conclusion, the wiki shouldn't say 'AceLoale-2.0 will be deprecated' IMO
15:03.13nevcairielone of the authors updates the wiki i think
15:03.15nevcairiel:)
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15:08.07[Ammo]2.0 works fine
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15:09.30vhaarr2.0 works fine and 2.1 is not any faster
15:09.38vhaarr2.1 should be deleted ASAP
15:09.40DarkImakuniI hear AceLocale 2.0 uses less memory than 2.1
15:09.56Healthwth
15:09.59vhaarrprobably because 2.1 still has some extra debugging and stuff in it
15:10.04HealthIts a few strings!
15:10.15Healtha few KiB!
15:10.21DarkImakunithats what ckknight said yesterday.. :S
15:10.22Healthat most.
15:10.45HealthI will die! Memory overload
15:10.46Health!
15:11.23eternally777Ckk is avidly against upgrading to 2.1
15:11.51nevcairiel2.0 is working fine, 2.1 is probably too .. so basicly no point in upgrading
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15:12.06Cairennand Ckk isn't project lead, so your point would be?
15:13.22RophyBut 2.1 doesn't support nested table?
15:13.24Cairennit says: 'AceLoale-2.0 *will be* deprecated' not 'AceLoale-2.0 *is* deprecated', note the subtle difference?
15:13.25eternally777sorry, I forgot my disclaimer: Warning! Some of my statements may have no point or may not be relevant to the topic at hand.
15:15.59DarkImakunihehe :D
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15:16.50vhaarrRophy: it doesn't?
15:16.58vhaarrRophy: that will break one of my mods at least.
15:17.11vhaarror not, because I will never upgrade it to 2.1
15:17.16vhaarr:D
15:17.20vhaarrtime to make dinner
15:17.26RophyI think it doesn't but I'm not sure, better ask someone who is actually using it.
15:17.33CIA-1103saroz * r10408 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesLocals.lua): sRaidFrames: Added "Buffs unless debuffed" display feature
15:17.49Neronix2.1 is more streamlined
15:17.49oxmanvery nice feature Saroz
15:17.55Sarozhate it personally :)
15:17.59Shyvackk said it doesn't support it to me, but hey, it's still beta code.. so maybe it does sometime in the future
15:18.00Neronixstreamlined = Ace-y = win
15:18.03oxmanmaybe i will try sraid :)
15:18.05CIA-1103skyboat * r10409 10Cyclone/ (. Anchor.xml Core.lua Cyclone.toc Locale-enUS.lua): Cyclone: Initial release.
15:18.08oxmanwhy you hate this ?
15:18.10Shyvaagree Neronix :)
15:18.19Sarozdunno, prefer to only see debuffs
15:18.37NeronixSecondly, ckknight doesn't understand why we have major versions
15:18.37oxmanok
15:18.49Neronixhe does things like grep trunk and thinks about timebombs when doing API changes
15:18.55oxmando you have an advanced buff filter in sraid Saroz ?
15:18.58MoonWolfalright people that is enough.
15:19.01Saroznope
15:19.01oxmanto only see some buff
15:19.07Sarozfeel free to code one
15:19.11oxmanhum so the reverse buff option is usless
15:19.14NeronixWhen all he needs to do is increment the major version
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15:19.38Sarozwell I have the default blizz option
15:19.42Sarozto only show castable
15:19.51oxmanyep but with reverse i will alway see shadow buff
15:19.56oxmanand often we don't use this buff
15:20.23SarozI'll add it at some point, I just hate hooking into a tooltip to find the name of a debuff/buff
15:20.43oxmanuse the buff texture
15:20.47oxmanits fine
15:20.56Saroznot that user friendly though
15:21.15CIA-1103skyboat * r10410 10Cyclone/Libs/: Cyclone: Added libraries.
15:24.16Cairennwhat was that for?
15:24.27DarkImakuniwhy not? :)
15:24.32Cairennnot that I object to hugs
15:24.36nevcairielhaha
15:24.41Neronixlol
15:24.41Cairennjust sometimes they make me suspicious
15:24.45DarkImakuniAngry Cairenn = scary Cairenn
15:24.56JoshBorke~hug Cairenn
15:24.57purlACTION hugs Cairenn
15:25.11Cairennwho's angry? Trust me, you guys have yet to ever see me *angry*
15:25.16CIA-1103skyboat * r10411 10Cyclone/Libs/:
15:26.07DarkImakuniyou were angry when you lectured me about T.Kings art
15:26.35Cairennpoint
15:26.51CairennTom is a long time friend of mine
15:27.20DarkImakunihow is the old chap anyway? :)
15:27.28Cairenndoing well
15:28.21CIA-1103wobin * r10412 10FuBar_FuXPFu/ (FuBar_FuXPFu.lua FuXPLocals.lua):
15:28.21CIA-11FuBar_FuXPFu:
15:28.21CIA-11- Added rep bar with own colours
15:28.21CIA-11- Can select rep from dropdown
15:28.27nevcairielmeh, someone who gets ahold if cladhaire poke him to answer my svn access mail :D
15:28.32DarkImakuni~hug Wobin
15:28.33purlACTION hugs Wobin
15:28.35Wobinokay, if anyone would care to test that out
15:28.44Cairennhe's heading out of town today nevcairiel
15:28.57Cairennwill be back in about a week and a half
15:29.03WobinIt will futz up if you get more factions =)
15:29.04nevcairieltoo bad
15:29.08Neronixwow,
15:29.10nevcairielgotta wait then
15:29.30NeronixSomeone actually replied to Uwe Boll's offer to do a boxing match with his critics
15:29.32Wobinbut I can't be bothered atm hardcoding the names in
15:29.46WobinNeronix: Someone? I thought they were lining up down the street to do it
15:29.49NeronixTurns out he was a semi pro boxer in his younger days and wtfpwned the guy
15:30.21WobinOh if I were fighting Uwe Boll... I'd cheat. Massively
15:30.37DarkImakuni~fetch a cup of tea
15:30.48DarkImakunidammit
15:30.51WobinI'd bring everyone else into the ring and say "We're all taking one punch each"
15:31.06Wobin"Cause you deserve it"
15:31.23Wobin"We're also placing this game console where the sun don't shine"
15:31.43Wobin(Which happens to be a dark cave somewhere in South Australia)
15:32.29Elkanowrt FuXPFu: shouldn't it register with Jostle?
15:33.04WobinIt does... doens't it?
15:33.19Wobinunless the syntax changed
15:33.23Elkanowell, haven't checked the ace2 version, yet but the old one didn't
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15:33.41Wobinhm
15:33.44WobinI guess not
15:33.49WobinI could have sworn I had
15:34.07Kaeltenello
15:34.25Elkanohmm... I know the nick DarkImakuni for a long time but I can't remember from what :(
15:34.41eternally777Morning Kael
15:34.43DarkImakuniI was a member of staff at ui.wow
15:34.52Elkanohmmm...
15:35.06DarkImakuniI'm also the author of Ultimate Book of the Dead
15:35.23DarkImakuni(which is recieving a rewrite to use ace2... hopefully)
15:35.49Elkanowell, sth like that was it... or your translation contributio to some addon
15:35.51evlI think it should be renamed
15:35.55evlto Book og ZE Deathd
15:36.48DarkImakunievl: I have renamed it to book of the Dead -Ace2- :P
15:36.56DarkImakunis/book/Book/
15:37.46evlWell just so you know as a heads up
15:38.11evlMY folder in Interface\Addons will be called BookOfZeDeathd
15:38.24DarkImakuniWhy? :P
15:38.38hasteDeaded!
15:38.58evlThere you go
15:39.00evlhaste till use Deaded
15:39.03evlPerfectly okay
15:40.11hasteNorwegian alliance guild on my server says: X deaded, when they kill something :3
15:40.42tumetomoh... perfectraid  
15:40.42tumetom0.5-Beta
15:40.54CIA-1103rabbit * r10413 10SpellStatusLib/SpellStatus-1.0/SpellStatus-1.0.lua: SpellStatus: Nightdew, I'm getting reports from 6+ guildmembers now. I'm commenting out this code so I can make a new release of BW_CA with this version.
15:40.55CIA-1103wobin * r10414 10FuBar_FuXPFu/ (FuBar_FuXPFu.lua FuBar_FuXPFu.toc Libs/):
15:40.55CIA-11FuBar_FuXPFu:
15:40.55CIA-11- Added in Jostle registration
15:41.02evlcan you stop updating fuxpfu?
15:41.05evlI'm in the middle of an update
15:41.13evland last time I was that you updated it again
15:41.31Wobin=)
15:41.40WobinStop people asking for easy fixes =)
15:41.45evlHehe yeah :P
15:41.49CIA-1103rabbit * r10415 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Can now target the last person that used CS or CR.
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15:41.54Wobinanyway, I haveta get to bed
15:41.57evlIt's like at my job "can we stop this, we need DELIVERABLES"
15:42.18evlI'm like "stfu noob befo' I cb ambush omg-seal-fate-proc evisc"
15:42.21Wobin"We can't stop here! This is BAT COUNTRY!"
15:42.33evlonce you're hooked into a serious drug collection...
15:43.05WobinDya know what I'd love?
15:43.08WobinUS ping times.
15:43.27evlI love vagina
15:43.29evlAnd carpet.
15:43.37DarkImakunio.O
15:43.37WobinWhen people complain about 100ms pings, I cry
15:43.42evlThat's what I like about Scandinavia
15:43.46steinooO
15:43.51nevcairielso vhaarr what does CommonAuras do actually ? :D
15:43.52steino100ms is way high!
15:43.56evlGreat ping!
15:43.59evlAnd great vagina-!_^*
15:44.01steinoi play with 60-70ms
15:44.02hasteI have 27ms to the server
15:44.14evlhaste: 27? omg I ESS DE ENN?
15:44.21hastehaha
15:44.24WobinOr rather
15:44.25evlIf I had 500 I'd /wrists
15:44.38evlHaha, this one is funny
15:44.38evlhttp://aga.lunarlounge.org/wow/grateful.jpg
15:44.45WobinIt does make us better players, though I think =)
15:44.47evlMy mate has a orc hunter named Rambow with his pet Rawky
15:44.51WobinWe learn to anticipate more =)
15:45.36evlThen again, you could turn that statement upside down and just say that you're lagging like hell.
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15:45.46WobinYep!
15:45.48evl8)
15:45.49Wobinexcuses are great =)
15:46.00evlI had a nasty one the other day when servers were fucked
15:46.04evl10s lag on every action
15:46.08evlplayed AV with it for 30 mins
15:46.16WobinI just like to think what would happen if the US got our ping times and we got theirs.
15:46.18DarkImakuniO.o
15:46.18evlwhen I got out on the street I was still lagged, pretty awful
15:46.23Wobinhoho, they'd suck
15:46.33evlWsa thinking like "shit, I gotta say this now so it comes out 10 seconds later"
15:47.23WobinAnyway, gnite
15:47.27nevcairielnite
15:47.29Cairennnight Wobin
15:47.40evlnite
15:48.18evlAh, nothing like coming home from work and just update externals for 20 minutes.
15:51.56vhaarrnevcairiel: I'll add a readme soon
15:53.29nevcairielGreat, i got the raid leaders of my guild to convert to bigwigs yesterday, and they asked me what that extra addons do
15:53.40oxmannothing
15:53.43oxmanexcept sync
15:58.12CIA-1103rophy * r10416 10SimpleCombatLog/ (. SimpleCombatLog.toc core.lua fix_combatlog.lua):
15:58.12CIA-11SimpleCombatLog -
15:58.12CIA-11- Added a few debug statements.
15:58.12CIA-11- Will fix incorrectly localized element strings in GlobalStrings, e.g. "Arcane" in french. Will not modify GlobalStrings directly.
15:59.24CIA-1103ammo * r10417 10PinPoint/ (11 files in 3 dirs):
15:59.24CIA-11PinPoint:
15:59.24CIA-11* Initial import. nonworking alpha version.
15:59.24CIA-11* Will become a modular mapnotes/gatherer replacement when it's done.
15:59.24CIA-11* Bothering me about it will make me send your local maffia after you.
15:59.49DarkImakunilol
16:00.07nekohhaha
16:00.26nevcairielammo ftw :D
16:00.36DarkImakunijust a question... will this be a nice replacement for CT_MapMod? :D
16:00.51nekohyou're so dead 8[
16:01.15sbuhm
16:01.46[Ammo]DarkImakuni: yeah
16:01.57eternally777So did CIA really forget about my commit an hour ago?
16:02.14eternally777s/an hour/fourty-five minutes/
16:02.22[Ammo]probably
16:02.24Kaeltencould have
16:02.28Kaeltensometime he gets overloaded
16:02.30[Ammo]sometimes commits don't come through
16:02.50Kaeltenanyone who is using IE6 should either get IE7 or FF
16:02.56Kaeltenlol
16:02.59eternally777Jinx
16:03.22[Ammo]w3m ftw
16:06.02[Ammo]Kaelten: question, if I wanted to look where you parse the saved var for KCI, as in the "blah,x,y,z,a,,b,c" etc to a table
16:06.08sbuhmm FF2b2 working?
16:06.15[Ammo]which file would I start looking?
16:07.06[Ammo]nvm
16:07.15[Ammo]common.lua exploderises that stuff
16:07.34Kaeltenkaelten hrm?
16:07.44Kaeltenah ya common.lua
16:08.14[Ammo]I'm pondering on stuff for compression for pinpoint
16:08.17Kaelten[Ammo]: should be some functions int here you could use if you wanted too.
16:08.25[Ammo]and loading the table only when you enter a zone
16:08.26Kaeltenpinpoint?
16:08.29[Ammo]so the saved var remains small
16:08.36[Ammo]yeah ctmapmod/mapnotes/gatherer replacment
16:08.42[Ammo]deuce'd and acemodulecore'd
16:08.49Kaeltenhrm
16:08.58Kaeltenwhats the data look like just x,y,note?
16:09.06nevcairieli love i already. :)
16:09.17[Ammo]x,y,note,icon basically
16:09.29[Ammo]since I store it per zone and per type
16:09.50Kaeltenwell are icons going to be used over and over again?
16:09.55[Ammo]so it's points[zone][type] = { }
16:09.56[Ammo]yeah
16:10.01[Ammo]I will number them
16:10.10Kaeltenya, make the value as small as possible
16:10.21[Ammo]but I don't want to store the table directly into saved vars I think
16:10.34Kaeltenwhy points[zone][type] = {}?
16:10.42[Ammo]I store per zone per type
16:10.49Kaeltenwhy not points[zone][type] = ""
16:10.52[Ammo]because you're usually interested in a zone and a certain type
16:11.05[Ammo]because there are multiple entries in that type
16:11.15[Ammo]type being herbalism, mining, userdefined etc
16:12.01[Ammo]it's all easily changed for registration, but I'd figured I'd ask you because of KCI
16:12.07Kaeltenok well from a memory standpoint you'd actually be better off doing points[type][zone]
16:12.11[Ammo]hmm
16:12.26[Ammo]but then I'd have to run over every type to get all the stuff for a certain zone
16:12.30Kaeltensince that will cut out alot of extra arrays
16:12.39[Ammo]you're quite right
16:12.41[Ammo]ok will change
16:12.58[Ammo]that bit of extra time when changing to a zone won't matter
16:13.06[Ammo]since there are usually not that many points in a zone
16:13.18Kaeltenas far as keeping the sv small, the only thing I can tell you is flatten out the tables if its a big deal
16:13.20sbuwoah
16:13.27sbuhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/de/wow/addons-5114-1-raid-restore.html <-- good1?
16:13.36Kaeltenif you use a lot of static predefined points store them in a function and call them as needed
16:13.36sbusounds greant
16:13.37sbugreat
16:13.59nevcairielsounds really great
16:14.00nevcairielsome ace2 it
16:14.01nevcairiel:)
16:14.16sbuyep ;p
16:14.20Kaeltenheh
16:14.28FISKER_Qwoooooohooooo
16:14.29FISKER_Qgot rank 9
16:14.54nevcairieli might actually try to ace2 it .. i am bored all the day anyway
16:15.06Kaelten[Ammo]: like function(masterTable) masterTable[type]["zonename"] = {predefined table}
16:15.09Kaeltenend
16:15.22Kaeltenand that way you load them on demand and the table won't take up much memory until you call the function
16:15.25[Ammo]hmm
16:15.31[Ammo]but there are no predefined tables
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16:15.37CIA-1103eternally777 * r10418 10BabbleLib/BabbleLib-2.1/ (7 files in 7 dirs): BabbleLib-2.1: *Updated library headers with new API Documentation addresses. *Added "X-Date" and "X-Website" to TOC file.
16:15.48eternally777"*" doesn't work.
16:15.56[Ammo]well there could be but I'd have to parse wowhead and get all their herbalism data etc
16:16.17[Ammo]Babble2.1 wtf?
16:16.19Kaeltenwell if you do liek POI type points
16:16.29[Ammo]yeah ok
16:16.38[Ammo]but those could be added later
16:16.50Kaeltenya sounds like a good module canditate
16:16.56[Ammo]yup
16:17.03[Ammo]I can flatten the table for sv space
16:17.16[Ammo]but that would mean running over it on load
16:17.20[Ammo]and seperating it
16:17.33[Ammo]so I thought rather to split it in type and zone
16:17.37[Ammo]and keep it at that
16:17.53Elkanoammo, keep in mind Blizzard changing zone names
16:18.06[Ammo]blargh
16:18.18[Ammo]the 'main' zone names?
16:18.28[Ammo]the ones from GetRealZoneText?
16:19.11Elkanomain zones
16:19.16[Ammo]examples?
16:19.22Kaelten[Ammo]: also you could have modules for vendors, recipies, quest points, gryphons
16:19.33Kaeltenlots of neat ideas with something thats generic enough
16:19.40[Ammo]yeah
16:19.45Kebinusansbu, there was an older mod called raidtemplate that does the same thing
16:19.45Elkanowell, eg on deDE they changed Stranglethornvale to Schlingdornental lately
16:19.52[Ammo]but I'd need to change my storing mchanism a bit though
16:20.11[Ammo]or they could just inject themselves ofcourse on load
16:20.21[Ammo]right now I have the Collect/ folder
16:20.33[Ammo]which are the 'gatherer' style things
16:20.38[Ammo]Herbalism, fishing, mining, manual
16:20.49[Ammo]can add a Static thing
16:20.58[Ammo]with vendors, recipes, questpoints, gryphons
16:21.38[Ammo]and have those inject their data when needed
16:23.47[Ammo]I'll make sure the data storage is seperated from the rest of the stuff
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16:35.22CIA-1103nimbal 07Nimbal * r10419 10Druidcom/Druidcom-0.2/ (Druidcom.lua DruidcomDruidTemplate.xml Druidcom_Druid.lua):
16:35.22CIA-11Druidcom-0.2
16:35.22CIA-11Added debugging button, frame hides on disable now, optimized cooldown counts
16:37.49sbuElkano: brrrr - thats why im playing enGB version ;o
16:41.19Elkanoammo, you should make a 'display things on (mini)map' lib ^^
16:42.31Elkanoand wrt zone names you could add a function that will rearange the zones based on the current version
16:43.22Elkanoso if a newer version is loaded maybe it shouldn't add any new stuff until so checked that the zone still matches
16:43.50Elkano(eg with Gatherer one zone name changed could mess all zone assignments)
16:43.54HealthMikma: BindingSwap is needed if you want to switch binding when a page i switched using pagemaster?
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17:05.11evlHmms, after jostle was put into xpfu i'm getting herrors :(
17:06.14CIA-1103fleetfoot * r10420 10BigTrouble/ (BigTrouble-deDE.lua BigTrouble-enUS.lua BigTrouble.lua):
17:06.14CIA-11trunk/BigTrouble:
17:06.15CIA-11* Merged spellfailed and spellinterupt event handling
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17:07.37Neronixhaste: I'd love to trunk oCBHS, but I think it'd only make sense if oCB2 was trunked first
17:08.29hasteNeronix: you can move it if you want to, I'm planning on doing it anyway
17:08.34hastesame with oUF2
17:08.48NeronixOk
17:10.57Azurewrathwoot.. only 2 people with outdated BW Versions in raid.. can't believe it
17:12.39[Ammo]you mean the other 2 guys that are using it?
17:12.42[Ammo]:)
17:13.05Azurewrathnope.. one mom, i'll make a screenshot.. you'll drool ;D
17:13.26[Ammo]naah
17:13.41[Ammo]I'll just think, those guys are smart enough to use Bigwigs :)
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17:15.30Azurewrathit's more because i put it in our raid-addonpackage for the guild.. what amazes me is that they all updated pre-raid
17:15.55nevcairieli got like 7 people now running bigwigs.
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17:16.01nevcairiela week ago i was the only one
17:16.26AmadeoI need a wireless router
17:16.35Amadeois it worth it to get N yet?
17:16.56AmadeoOr just get a WRT54GS
17:17.36AzurewrathWRT54GS was Linksys?
17:17.45AmadeoYeah
17:18.05Azurewraththat one is ok.. installed 2-3 of them, no problems so far
17:18.12AzurewrathDraytek Routers are great too
17:18.37AmadeoI've had problems with every brand I've used, so I assume they all have issues
17:19.29Azurewrathmore or less.. yes.. as with everything ;)
17:20.10AmadeoI had a D-Link that rebooted itself randomly
17:20.28AmadeoI forget the other problems I've had...Linksys and Netgear
17:21.01AzurewrathD-Link is crap
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17:23.43CIA-1103tardmrr * r10421 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/ (13 files):
17:23.43CIA-11AceGUI-2.0:
17:23.44CIA-11<PROTECTED>
17:23.44CIA-11<PROTECTED>
17:26.30CIA-1103phyber * r10422 10MyAcePerc/ (Libs/ MyAcePerc.lua MyAcePerc.toc):
17:26.30CIA-11MyAcePerc:
17:26.30CIA-11- Large cleanup of the tooltip processing function.
17:26.30CIA-11- Set externals on Libs/
17:26.31CIA-11- Added green Ace2 thingy to title in TOC.
17:27.46Temphyber, lol
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17:29.25phyberTem: hmm? :)
17:29.35TemmyACEperc
17:29.40phyberah, yeah.
17:29.51phyberwell, it doesn't START with Ace ;)
17:29.55phyberit's Instant's old addon.
17:30.02phyberif you have a funky new name, I'll rename it.
17:30.08Temhehe
17:30.16TemI don't even know what it does
17:30.26phyberadds percentage display to mana in the spell tooltop
17:30.28phybertip
17:30.45phyberso instead of '350 Mana' it will say '350 Mana (10.0%)'
17:30.53phyberso you know the percentage of mana it will use
17:33.54MikkFwiw, D-Link, Netsys and Netgear are _all_ crap
17:34.10MikkIf you're lucky, you may find a unit that sucks less though
17:34.20Mikk(They switch OEMed software all the time)
17:34.50phyberonly D-Link thing I've ever used are switches.
17:34.55phyberthey don't seem to fuck those up :)
17:35.02Tupladpisces_K: hi pisces_K:asl plz
17:35.05Tupladhaha classic
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17:41.49SarozAnyone got the sound thingie in detox to work?
17:41.56Azurewrathjup
17:42.09Azurewrathat least it did in a BG-test yesterday
17:42.20CIA-1103tardmrr 07Ace2 * r10423 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Fix for Int need showing on non-mana classes
17:42.44SarozI wan't to convert to roster lib, but I honestly can't be arsed :(
17:43.04Sarozand I want to stop using "wan't" instead of "want"
17:44.17CIA-1103phyber * r10424 10MyAcePerc/MyAcePerc.lua:
17:44.17CIA-11MyAcePerc:
17:44.17CIA-11- format -> string.format
17:44.18CIA-11- Clean up a few random spaces in the file to save hard drive space. That stuff isn't cheap you know! Uhh, wait...
17:44.59phyberdamn, I missed one.  but I'm not going to commit again for one space :p
17:46.07HealthI don't get the praid backdrop syntax.. please help me! :P
17:46.13Health/praid backdrop ...?
17:48.38Tembackdrop doesn't exist anymore
17:48.43Temnot yet anyway
17:52.37nevcairielSaroz: pong! just added an option to hide rage/energy bars.
17:53.07Saroz:p
17:53.13[Ammo]I hate migraters
17:53.13HealthWhat is the black frame you see on some screenshots then?
17:53.26[Ammo]it was predicted, but now Kazzak EU has indeed got queues
17:53.29Sarozgogodiff
17:53.31[Ammo]bloody paid migrations
17:53.41nevcairieli need svn access, so i can branch your version and up all my stuff there
17:54.10haste[Ammo]: we lost three members to Kazzak
17:54.13Sarozbranches suck
17:54.15nevcairieli am in raid right now, going to diff later. faerlina now.
17:55.13yacoobhmm
17:55.24nevcairielsomeone requested showing "resurrected" when someone was ..well.. resurrected :P
17:55.27phyberwho is "Jim Whitehead II" ?  Guy commented on my last MyAcePerc commit on google groups :p
17:55.29nevcairiellike ctra does
17:55.31yacoobperfect raid is still "one long column"?
17:55.53Azurewrathyacoob: the Ace2 Branch from clad, yes afaik
17:56.38yacoobHmm, I'll need to try various raid frames once I'm ack...
17:56.41yacoobback, that is.
17:56.57yacoobagUF's are nice, but somewhat unreadable, sraid are a bit clumsy looking
17:57.45Azurewrathi currently use the trunk PerfectRaid.. it's still Ace1 but ok
17:58.13yacoobI'm not ace1phobic, I still have a bunch of ace1 stuff
17:58.34Jagobahperfectraid isn't an ace mod
17:58.37Jagobahcheck its dependencies
18:01.09HealthThere isn't a UnitIsAfk?
18:01.57Amadeoouch, Warrior BC talents suck
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18:03.24Health(couldn't find one)
18:04.24HealthHmm, half the slash commabds seems a bit broken in praid
18:09.39CIA-1103phyber * r10425 10FuBar_NetStatsFu/NetStatsFu.lua:
18:09.39CIA-11NetStatsFu:
18:09.39CIA-11- Added option to show total bandwidth used by WoW in the current session.
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18:12.08tumetomperfectraid 0.5 shows "int" after each mage, "f" after ech priest and "m" after each druid....
18:12.15tumetom:(
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18:14.29hastehehe, I named my undead mage "Kimoi" :3
18:14.33JensCould someone update MiniBlizzRaid?
18:14.56hasteJens: not needed
18:14.58AzurewrathJens: read the description.. it's no longer needed with 1.12
18:15.07hastehow can you miss those letters :3 ?
18:15.08JensInteresting.
18:15.25HealthThey added it native - LoD
18:15.25JensI don't run WoW anymore... friend just said it didn't work.
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18:18.03nevcairielBlizz fixed that "glitch" .. so mini blizz no longer needed
18:19.18hastenice use of words
18:20.32JensBah... now he says random mods of his aren't working. I can't even debug. Uninstalled WoW a month ago.
18:21.57hastereally helpful info he's giving you :3
18:21.58ckknighthey all
18:22.03hastehello
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18:22.19nevcairielhi
18:22.36JensWell he said Mobs2level isn't working, which is suspicious since it's an 18 line mod, that has just always worked. I suspect it's deeper than that.
18:23.08Kebinusan[Ammo], http://gather.reet.org/
18:23.38Tupladreet.org lmao
18:24.05TupladJens: 1 line can fuck up a mod
18:24.43JensWell obviously, but this mod is a basic as it gets.
18:24.51Tupladask me, I know
18:25.21JensWell I can't be bothered. People need to stop seeing me as their WoWmod guru from now on.
18:25.48Tupladwait ... you're not the first time in this chan right ?
18:26.04JensNope, I was here lots before :)
18:26.07Tupladoh
18:26.15JensAka Zalkalin...
18:26.16Tupladmeh, thought you were some random nub :<
18:26.25JensI use my realname on IRC though.
18:26.35Tupladaaaight
18:29.55HealthCan't find the setting for black borders around the bars in PerfectRaid - any hints? :P
18:30.20Kebinusan. /pr help :-)
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18:32.03HealthThere is no help option, but there is a ?
18:32.08HealthTried every option I think...
18:32.48MikmaHealth: nope, it's completely different addon
18:33.55hasteit is? sure it's nost just modded a little :p ?
18:34.11hasteNot that hard to change PRaid to have higher bars, and a border around them
18:34.58KebinusanPerfectRaid: Added health bar borders.  Use "/praid borders" to configure.
18:36.57MvA|Slaymanwhat was the IRC channel of Nihilum?
18:37.15MikmaHealth: and btw..
18:37.30Kebinusannihilum.wow
18:37.32Health#nihilum.wow on quakenet
18:37.34MikmaHealth: i was talking about the message you said to me
18:37.47HealthI see
18:40.28CIA-1103phyber * r10426 10Denial2/ (Denial2.lua Denial2Locale-enUS.lua):
18:40.28CIA-11Denial2:
18:40.28CIA-11- Added the Lothos Riftwaker gossip for entering Molten Core.
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18:48.26CIA-1103phyber 07Ace2 * r10427 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaidOptions.lua:
18:48.26CIA-11PerfectRaid:
18:48.26CIA-11- Added 'group' to the usage string for 'sort'. It was missing.
18:49.51phyberhey, ["You see large cavernous tunnels"]  was the text from when the crystal was there to zone into MC, right?
18:50.23phyberi can remove it from Denial if it was.  since it will never be used again.
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18:50.38vhaarrI honestly never read any of that text.
18:51.00Sarozthere is a new one for MC
18:53.46oxmanwho's the authour of XRS please ?
18:53.49oxman[Ammo] its you ?
18:53.54Jagobahthere any documentation on simple combat log?
18:54.00JagobahXRS is Moonsorrow
18:54.00Azurewrathoxman: FtH|eagle
18:54.05oxmanmerci
18:54.16oxmanFtH|eagle could you add an option to change the size of buff buttons ?
18:54.29oxman5 or 10 pixels higher option :)
18:56.03CIA-1103thiana * r10428 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.lua: VitalWatch: Fixed nil error on line 427
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19:01.03CIA-11HealSync:
19:01.03CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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19:01.45FtH|eagleoxman: uhm, don't have a plan to change that yet
19:01.49wereHamsterI was always wondering why the heals are so inaccurate..
19:01.58oxmanwereHamster  ?
19:02.02oxmanFtH|eagle hm ok :(
19:02.09wereHamstermy commit
19:02.32oxmani don't understand wereHamster
19:02.54CIA-1103nimbal 07Nimbal * r10430 10Druidcom/Druidcom-0.2/ (Druidcom.lua DruidcomDruidTemplate.xml Druidcom_Druid.lua):
19:02.54CIA-11Druidcom 0.2
19:02.54CIA-11Fixed Button Flashing, added some Debug ability
19:03.06wereHamsterThe commit I did.. r10429
19:04.17CIA-1103grimwald 07Grimwald * r10431 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/Optional/Buff.lua:
19:04.17CIA-11oRA2_Buff:
19:04.17CIA-11* "local" tracking of buffs (on players without ctra/ora) should now work
19:04.44CIA-1103ckknight * r10432 10BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0/Babble-Spell-2.0.lua:
19:04.44CIA-11Babble-Spell - updated spell icons
19:04.44CIA-11http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=292
19:05.05evlckknight: AutoAttack Ace2 is working as it should, mind if I trunk it?
19:05.24ckknightsure
19:05.39ckknightgo ahead
19:06.05*** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=Ratbert_@204.128.192.14)
19:06.11TupladMikma: Bartender2 has that keyring button right ?
19:07.27Tupladhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3777.jpg lol @ Titan
19:08.01Azurewrath63mb.. nice
19:08.17Tuplad:>
19:08.24ckknightTuplad, 63 Megs?
19:08.29Tupladckknight: yea :>
19:08.34hasteI've seen 270MB :<
19:08.38ckknighthow?
19:08.39JoshBorkewow
19:08.40Tupladholy shit
19:08.40hasteon some screen that was posted here
19:08.43*** join/#wowace gnorlish (n=jaydee@70-38-2-202.vnnyca.adelphia.net)
19:08.45Tupladoh yea
19:08.45JoshBorkeholy shit! 270MB?!
19:08.47TupladI remember posting it
19:08.53MikmaTuplad: no
19:08.53Tupladsome troll hunter was mining, right ?
19:08.56JoshBorkedoes he run like 5 link gatherers?
19:09.02hasteno, it was a tauren druid
19:09.32Tupladhaste: oh no idea then
19:09.57Mikmahaste: yeah i think i pasted the 270mb picture
19:10.06hasteMikma: might be, it was a long time ago
19:10.07Mikmabut i can't remember from where did i paste it
19:10.13Mikmayeah it was
19:10.21Mikma2-3 months?
19:10.36Mikmasomething like that but it was fullon discord
19:10.38CIA-1103evl 07Evl * r10433 10AutoAttack/AutoAttack/ (AutoAttack.toc Core.lua Libs/):
19:10.38CIA-11AutoAttack:
19:10.38CIA-11- Removed debugging messages and fixed a typo with SpecialEvents-Aura. - Updated externals
19:11.27hasteMikma: I don't remember :<
19:12.14ckknighthey all. What would you think if someone took someone took your addon, without permission, and changed it to something you didn't want it to do and explicitly forbade said person to change?
19:12.21CIA-1103ratbert * r10434 10QuartermasterLib/Quartermaster-2.0/: New AceLibrary-2.0 version coming...
19:12.53Mikmackknight: i'd hire tuplad to remove his thumbs
19:12.54CIA-1103ratbert * r10435 10QuartermasterLib/Quartermaster-2.0/Quartermaster-2.0.lua: New AceLibrary-2.0 version
19:14.17Tuplad:O thumbs ?
19:14.18Tupladwhere
19:14.30Laricwhat is quartermasterlib?
19:14.42Mikmackknight: so, what has happened?
19:14.48Tupladckknight: I'd woop his ass
19:15.06hasteI wouldn't do shit
19:15.17evlError: REPORT request failed on '/root/!svn/vcc/default'  
19:15.26Tupladno wait, better idea, ckknight: I'd get some people that would slap him till he yells "Thank you for making me a better woman"!
19:15.27evlanyone know what this is, trying to merge from branches dto root
19:15.31Tem|AFKevl, svn cleanup that directory
19:15.40ckknightI don't want BabbleLib-2.1 existing and propagating the use of AceLocale-2.1, simply enough
19:16.10Temckknight, I'm afraid theres nothing you can do about AL-2.1
19:16.15Temit's here to stay
19:16.22Tem2.0 will be deprecated soon
19:16.24Shyvauh, shouldn't you try to get some good point about AL instead of bitching about it to eachother? :-S
19:16.40ckknightTem, I won't let that happen, and I will do everything in my power to prevent that
19:16.49Temsee, that's where you're confused
19:16.51Temyou have no power
19:17.03Mikmalol
19:17.06Mikmathat's harsh
19:17.06ckknightTem, I could send a C&D to the SVN.
19:17.12Temlolz
19:17.13tumetomfleetfoot you should add all needed libs to bigtrouble
19:17.25ckknightI wouldn't want to do that
19:17.27Laricc&d is nasty
19:17.32evlTem: stll getting it
19:17.35ckknightyes, horribly nasty.
19:17.47Temevl, try using tort instead of commandline
19:17.51tumetomfleetfoot: libs\Gratuity\Gratuity-2.0.lua is missing
19:17.52ckknightShyva, AL-2.0 is faster, less buggy, and it doesn't break API
19:17.57evlTem: I'm using tort.
19:18.00vhaarrTem: You can deprecate it all you want, I'm not converting any addons.
19:18.09Temit's not my decision
19:18.14Laricckknight why is there a al 2.1 then?
19:18.21Shyvaso, tell Kaelten that, if he doesn't agree, there must be SOME point
19:18.23vhaarrbecause ckk was on vacation
19:18.38ckknightyes.
19:18.41ckknightthat's the only reason
19:18.45Tem2.1 has no bugs that I'm aware of
19:18.53ckknightreading it, I saw bugs
19:18.56Laricckknight you live on hawaii... do you need a vacation from the tourists or?
19:18.57ckknightthere are also bugs on flyspray
19:19.04Tem2.1 is marginally faster last I checked
19:19.05ckknightBro's wedding
19:19.06ThianaAs I understand it, AL2.1 supposed to be a faster improved version, but AL2.0 is now faster/etc than 2.1 so there is no reason to switch anyway. Seems like 2.1 should just be removed.
19:19.15ckknightinstead of breaking API, I instead fixed 2.0
19:19.23KaeltenENOUGH
19:19.25Kaeltenlets stop this now.
19:19.29ShyvaKaelten said to me: 2.0 is as fast in 2.1 in most cases, not all
19:19.41ckknightShyva, do you want my benchmark results?
19:19.51MikmaKaelten: wanna make babies with me?
19:19.58ckknightKaelten, I don't like how you use your cronyistic position to push an inferior project and shut down a superior one.
19:20.03KaeltenMikma: na with me they'd look like dogs
19:20.21ThianaJust have someone that hasnt stepped into the debate benchmark both :-P
19:20.27Kaeltenck, and I don't like how you go out of your way to undermine my position.
19:20.28MikmaKaelten: and with me their hands would hit the floor when they walk
19:20.30ShyvaNo, I don't want to see them.. I rather have you guys make one very good version :-X
19:21.04TemThiana, clad already benchmarked them both.  The result was 2.1 was marginally faster
19:21.06Kaeltenyou've done nothing but to sow dissention for the last few weeks.
19:21.22ckknightTem, how long ago?
19:21.26CIA-1103nimbal * r10436 10Druidcom/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
19:21.26KaeltenThiana: by marginally it means that you can't really tell a difference
19:21.28Temless than a week
19:21.36Mikmanevcairiel: have you got your svn yet?
19:21.48Kaeltenckknight: do you have any response to my last statement?
19:21.52vhaarrI haven't seen any reasons deprecating 2.0.
19:22.03ckknightso even if AL-2.0 isn't faster, why should AL-2.1 exist anyway?
19:22.10ThianaI'm confused then. If one isnt measurably faster than the other, why push one that breaks the API?
19:22.17nevcairielMikma: no, but i heard that clad is out of town .. so guess i gonna wait
19:22.21Shyvabecuase we like fast code, don't we ckknight?
19:22.28Mikmanevcairiel: ok
19:22.33vhaarrDeprecating it just for the heck of it forces a Ace2-wide adoption procedure that is totally uneccessary.
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19:22.36*** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ
19:22.42Laricnevcairiel: cladhaire is on wowi-lounce
19:22.45Kaeltenweb cladhaire
19:22.47Laricand here now :P
19:22.48Kaeltengood to have you.
19:22.53Shyvayoow cladhaire
19:22.57cladhairei'm leaving for england in an hour
19:22.57phyberwow, PR2 is great now that the buffs show properly.
19:23.05cladhairephyber: yeah, non broken code ftw
19:23.10Temteehee
19:23.23nevcairieltalk about teh devil
19:23.28Kaeltenck, I did not write 2.1 in order to spite you or to undermine your work or code, however you've seem to take this whole thing rather personally.
19:23.31ckknightShyva, except 2.0 is actually much faster now. uses about 54% of CPU
19:23.36ckknightI do, Kaelten
19:23.39nevcairielcladhaire: did you get my mail about svn access ? :)
19:23.43ckknightespecially since you want to undermine my project
19:23.47KaeltenWhich is stupid and childish.
19:23.56Kaeltenck, it isn't mine is your project
19:23.58Kaeltenits Ace.
19:24.04vhaarrWork on 2.1 was continued even if 2.0 was fixed?
19:24.05evlAnyone know this SVN error: "Cannot replace a directory from within"
19:24.08Kaeltenisn't mine isn't your
19:24.09ckknightwho wants benchmarks for AL-2.0 and AL-2.1?
19:24.18ckknightup-to-the-minute ones.
19:24.18cladhaireckknight: I have them, thanks... appreciate the offer
19:24.37Mikmaoh, wow, you're here tpp
19:24.42eternally777~roulette
19:24.43purlACTION watches eternally777 pull the trigger:  Click!
19:24.47Mikmas/tpp/too/
19:24.50Mikma~tryme
19:24.51purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click.
19:24.51Mikmaboom
19:25.03cladhaireckknight: I suggest you attempt to C&D me
19:25.03eternally777sigh.. and it seemed like such an appropriate time.
19:25.17cladhairebut onto more important things.
19:25.25vhaarrCease and Desist? :P
19:25.25Kaeltenckknight: Bottom line, you need to let it go, and move on with life.
19:25.32ckknight2.0 __index 1:  6.016
19:25.32ckknight2.0 __index 2:  5.843
19:25.32ckknight2.1 __index 1:  10.828
19:25.32ckknight2.1 __index 2:  15.438
19:25.32ckknight2.0 __call 1:   26.25
19:25.33ckknight2.0 __call 2:   25.718
19:25.35ckknight2.1 __call 1:   32.063
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19:25.37ckknight2.1 __call 2:   36.625
19:25.39ckknightlower numbers are better
19:25.41ckknightnow tell me that 2.1 is faster.
19:26.00cladhairenevcairiel: What username do you want?
19:26.01Kaeltenthe last benchmarks I've ran show me they are about equal.
19:26.09ckknightKaelten, I _just_ ran them.
19:26.11nevcairielmy irc nick would be fine
19:26.14eternally777the time is in ms?
19:26.18nevcairielso nevcairiel :D
19:26.47Laricmay I ask what is the advantage of al 2.1? (not being and expert lua analyzer and all that)
19:26.59Larics/and/an/
19:27.12Healthcladhaire: Any chance of an afk flag in Perfect Raid?
19:27.14ckknighthttp://pastebin.ca/163672
19:27.23Healthat the offline/ghost/dead spot
19:27.24cladhaireHealth: yes, eventually
19:27.24Kaeltenckknight: if it was based on your last profiling I don't think thats a good method of profiling from what I've learned
19:27.29HealthSweet
19:27.36vhaarrKaelten: So, if they are about equal, why deprecate 2.0?
19:27.39ckknightKaelten, I used your code in the paste to profile.
19:27.39Kaeltenlast profiling technique rather
19:27.47ckknighterr, clad's
19:28.14Kaeltencan you tell me how you made it faster than a __index?
19:28.29ckknightcaching
19:28.39Kaeltencaching?
19:28.43ckknightyep
19:28.50ckknightit caches results
19:28.51Kaeltenso its only going to be faster on repeditave calls
19:28.55Temlol @ cheating for faster results
19:28.57ckknightso?
19:29.02vhaarrBW repeats alot
19:29.03Kaeltenalso you added a function call to each lookup
19:29.04ckknightTem, it's not cheating.
19:29.07Shyvaso that won't do anything if all strings are different..
19:29.07TemI know
19:29.10ckknightKaelten, no I didn't.
19:29.11TemI'm exaggerating
19:29.16ckknightit only calls the function once, the first time.
19:29.24ckknightand it gives proper error messages.
19:29.27ckknightAL-2.1 doesn't currently
19:29.28cladhaireI would just like to point out that this is a retarded conversation.  The differences you guys are talking about are less than pennies.. I already found the $20 bill.
19:29.38evlBuy more ram
19:29.41cladhairebut again, what do i know.
19:29.47Kaeltenso initial calls are slower, and only repeditave calls are faster
19:29.51evlAnyone know this SVN error: "Cannot replace a directory from within" I'm trying to merge from Branches to Trunk
19:29.54Mikmacladhaire: free money!
19:29.54Kaeltenand by doing caching you're using more memory?
19:30.00Lariccladhaire rolf :P
19:30.09Temevl, I've seen it before, but svn cleanup has fixed it for me
19:30.15ckknightKaelten, slightly more, yes
19:30.18cladhaireevl: Same as tem
19:30.27ckknightmost people do use repetitive localizations
19:30.37ckknightthat was the point, it's now very usable in critical paths now.
19:30.46nevcairielcladhaire: not sure if you got it earlier, it was in the midle of the spam :) but my irc nick would be fine for svn - so nevcairiel :)
19:30.51eternally777So basically it comes down to which version is Ace going to officially support, am i right?
19:30.53cladhairenevcairiel: Did you send me TWO emails?
19:30.58ckknightright, eternally777
19:31.07vhaarrBW does alot of string lookups very often, repeatedly, with many translations.
19:31.07cladhairenevcairiel: Ha!  you did!  And you didn't say anything :P
19:31.09cladhairealready send back to you
19:31.17nevcairielcladhaire, eh?
19:31.21nevcairieli only send one, i think
19:31.22cladhairevhaarr: Thats why I fixed the issues with the original AL2.0
19:31.26nevcairielweird.
19:31.27Thianaeternally777: Hopefully they'll be adults and not split the development over one thing.
19:31.30nevcairieland with content :P
19:31.38ckknightand Kaelten doesn't want me to work on AL-2.0 because he thinks it's a waste of resources, essentially shutting the project down
19:31.40nevcairielbrb, gotta heal some
19:31.44eternally777Thiana, a minor thing at that.
19:31.52Temckknight, that's a limited cache, yes?
19:31.53eternally777Ckk, and you would hate to have your project shut down.
19:31.57yacoobnevcairiel: first melt faces, then ask questions... :D
19:32.02ckknightTem, yea, it's pretty limited
19:32.06Temhow limited?
19:32.18Kaeltenlimited as in 5 items? or limited as in everyone you lookup?
19:32.21ckknightwait, I don't know what you mean
19:32.28ckknightit caches every localization
19:32.31ckknightthe first time
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19:32.39Temso... you're doubling the memory use?
19:32.52Tem<insert sarcastic comment here>
19:32.52Kaeltenso its double the memory use, for a niche case benifit?
19:33.07hyperChipmunkI'm gonna make my own locale system...wiiith blackjack...aaand hookers!!
19:33.14cladhairehyperChipmunk: wtb
19:33.21Kaeltenok thats it I'm user chip's system
19:33.29Kaelten:)
19:33.31ckknightyes, and it's faster
19:33.35hyperChipmunk>8p
19:34.22cladhaireis hellbot here?
19:34.24eternally777Ckk, yours is faster, but Kaels performs unnoticably slower while using half the memory.  I'd have to say AL-2.1 wins in my book.
19:34.24cladhairein some form or another?
19:34.39ckknighteternally777, it's not half the memory, it's about 2/3 the memory
19:34.54nevcairielcladhaire: didnt get anything yet .. you sure you meant me with the two mails ? i am quite sure i only send one :D
19:35.08Temckknight, can I suggest that you refine the caching system
19:35.12cladhaireHrm
19:35.12ckknightwill do.
19:35.31cladhaireI gave yours to someone else.
19:35.31cladhairenevcairiel: Lol.
19:35.31eternally777then we can call it AL-2.2
19:35.31nevcairiellol
19:35.33eternally777:P
19:35.37cladhairenevcairiel: call me your email
19:35.42cladhairenevcairiel: err PM me your email
19:35.42hyperChipmunkkael wins cuz higher numbers are always better
19:35.44cladhairedont' say it in the channel
19:35.47cladhairehyperChipmunk: GOLF!
19:36.18cladhairenevcairiel: Any hurry before i go to england
19:36.26Mikmalol
19:36.41Mikmaoh you poor bastard
19:36.46Mikmathe land of fog and mist
19:36.49hyperChipmunkthat's why C++ is so superior to C /nod
19:37.00nevcairielqueryed in irc, or do you need it in forum pm ? :)
19:37.04eternally777What?! high numbers are bad in golf?? And here I always thought I was winning...
19:37.50hyperChipmunkno matter what C is, C++ is ALWAYS higher, and therefore better
19:37.53cladhaireAgain.. this optimization dick waving war is useless, especially when we start adding more memory usage on top of the code which is already suitable for critical paths.
19:39.35Laricis aceguil 2.0 in a usable state?
19:39.35Temno
19:39.36Temwell, yeah, you could use it..
19:39.39Kaeltennot yet laric, but its working on it.
19:39.43Tembut it'd be way more work than you want to do
19:39.54Laricthen i wait :P
19:40.08evlWhen merging from branches to trunk, do I select the containing directory of the addon or all the files within?
19:40.12Lariclua framecommands is working fine at the moment
19:40.57Laricwill acegui do for frames what compost is doing for tables? recycle them and reuse them?
19:41.05Temno
19:41.11Temframe recyling is a corner case
19:41.49Laric"corner case"? I don't understand what you mean
19:42.00krkacompost will be useless when BC arrives
19:42.11ckknightkrka, not necessarily.
19:42.19Temkrka, I hope you're right
19:42.27ckknightjust because there's gonna be incremental GC doesn't mean we can go wild with table usag.e
19:42.30ckknightusage*
19:42.35Temtrue
19:42.36Laricyou will still have gc... it will just not be as visible
19:42.37ckknightsometimes table recycling is a good thing.
19:42.43Tembut compost is a bandaid fix, imo
19:42.50ckknightbut not in all cases
19:42.57Tempeople should just be more responsible with their tables
19:43.19cladhaireActually in this case it doesn't matter, unless we're talking BigWigs tables.
19:43.28cladhairesince every time you make a new table, it destroys a table.
19:43.31cladhairethe world is right again =)
19:43.41Laricpeople are trying tem. but it isnt an easy concept for people who usually dont program in a gc enviroment
19:44.20evlThis merging crap isn't working :P
19:44.24evlit doens't include all my files
19:44.27evlnow I'm pissed
19:44.29Laricevl read the manual :P
19:44.40TemLaric, "corner case" meaning that there aren't enough situations where you would get a real benefit out of it
19:44.41FtH|eagleI never cared about table creation before I worked with ace2
19:45.03TemLaric, the effort to create such a system outweighs any benefits you might see
19:45.12Tem(at least, that's my opinion on it)
19:45.22CIA-1103nimbal * r10437 10Druidcom/ (Druidcom.lua Druidcom_Druid.lua): Druidcom: Merged Druidcom_Druid with Druidcom
19:45.24Larictem ok :P
19:45.24evlfuck it, here goes nothing
19:45.55packetlssany known issues with BigWigs and Firemaw?
19:46.09cladhaireTem: For basic frame recycling.. i have a REALLY basic system out there.. but its very primitive.
19:46.19Temyou mean in Praid?
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19:46.34cladhairenah
19:46.45cladhairehttp://dump.brokendreams.net/files/PerfectFramePool.lua
19:46.46cladhairesomething like that
19:46.56cladhaireits a ghetto frame pool
19:47.36Laricsince blizzard dont want us destroying frames i kinda thought it a good idea to recycle them :P
19:47.58cladhaireLaric: Its not a matter of not wanting you, but its not worth the effort.
19:48.04cladhaireLaric: for them to design a system that does it.
19:48.18cladhaireLaric: the lua/C++ bindings are a bit more complex than you think, I imagine :P
19:48.33Laricso massive frame numbers have neligible effect on performance?
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19:49.00cladhaireLaric: Why do you have massive frames?
19:49.01LaricI had a look at how to use lua inside a program.. made my head ache :P
19:49.05cladhairethat's the important questino :P
19:49.25cladhaireLaric: and yes, they do have a negligible impact on performance, if they're hidden and have no events registered.
19:49.26Lariccladhaire I don't.. just talking a possible situation.
19:49.50ThraeFrames take up static memory, which you should already have a lot of since we're dealing with the heavy memory hog World of Warcraft. I think it requires like 10 ZG of free memory, where ZG is "ZetaByte".
19:49.50Lariccladhaire then that settles it.. I do trust your knowledge.
19:49.57cladhaireLaric: More often than not, the time when people want to delete frames, is because they're using frames improperly to begin with =)
19:50.45ckknightwell, I gotta go to school
19:50.46CIA-1103nimbal * r10438 10Druidcom/ (Druidcom.lua Druidcom_Druid.lua): Druidcom: Reverted merging back. Note to self: Tell Testers to QUIT WoW when new files were added
19:50.47ckknightcya all later
19:50.52LaricThrae and i only have 7 zg :P
19:50.59ThraeIf you really want to improve performance, do something like local fHide = YourFrame.Hide. Whenever you call a method in a frame's userdata, it must iterate over all the methods in the frame to determine which C/C++ function to call.
19:51.05Laricbye
19:51.34CIA-1103id * r10439 10idChat2_ChannelNames/idChat2_ChannelNames.lua: idChat2_ChannelNames: now you can safely type '[1. General]' in general chat for all channels.
19:51.38AzurewrathThrae: WoW does not consume THAT much memory compared to other games.. it's 4-500mb max.. 1-2gig ram is standard nowadays :)
19:51.39Industrialnext!
19:51.54cladhaireThrae: That's not entirely accurate in my experience.. it does a metatable lookup, which is a C functino which returns the appropriate handler, quite different than iterating existing methods.
19:52.41Thraecladhaire: Hmmm I thought that was what Iriel explained to me, but perhaps I got it wrong. I do remember Iriel clearly saying the lookup is far slower then a local reference.
19:52.42LaricAzurewrath bah.. it uses more. else you wouldnt notice the difference when moving from 1 - 2 gb... they use the windows file buffers to the max
19:52.51fleetfoottumetom: thx, thought i had done it
19:53.58cladhaireThrae: Aye, its a function call to the metatable lookup, which crosses the C/Lua boundry, then returns another functino to finally be called.
19:55.40Thraecladhaire: You're probably right.
19:55.50Healthhttp://irc.netsplit.de/channels/top100.php - lol
19:56.37Mikma2226 users
19:57.09Larichmmm did Kaelten and ckknight ever come to a conclusion.. will there be 2 AL or will there be 1.. and if 1. wich one?
19:57.34cladhaireLaric: There will be much dick-wagging, and rejoicing.
19:57.35cladhaireand with that
19:57.41Temcladhaire, in my experience of all the
19:57.43cladhaire30 seconds til i leave you all and turn off my laptop. *sigh*
19:57.45IndustrialAL?
19:57.49Temmetatable stuff
19:57.53Temwith frames
19:57.56hyperChipmunkwell, Kael is the project lead
19:57.57cladhaireIndustrial: AnduinLothat 2.0 versus 2.1
19:57.58Industrialcladhaire, :( where ya goin
19:58.07Temthe method lookup with __index is the slowest part
19:58.08Industrial2.0 what?
19:58.10cladhaireIndustrial: England
19:58.14Temso Threa is right
19:58.16Industrialcladhaire, ooh thats closer!
19:58.20cladhaireTem: Aye, because its a C function
19:58.33Temtypically it being in C makes it faster...
19:58.35cladhaireTem: I wasn't arguing the speed up potion =)
19:58.37cladhaireportion
19:58.40CIA-1103evl * r10440 10AutoAttack/ (7 files in 2 dirs): AutoAttack: Ace2 version merged from trunk
19:58.46Temthat's what I get for not reading closely
19:58.48cladhaireI was arguing that it wasn't an iteration of the methods.
19:58.57Temah
19:58.58cladhaireHe said that the code had to iterate the handlers to determine what handler to return
19:59.02ThraeI said it did iteration, which I now know not to be the case.
19:59.19ThraeIt's has better underlying OO then I thought it did.
19:59.25cladhaireyour understanding was still clear =0
19:59.27cladhairewhich is important :P
19:59.28Laric"hmmm did Kaelten and ckknight ever come to a conclusion.. will there be 2 AceLocale or will there be 1.. and if 1. wich one?" modifiend version
19:59.31Temthe "underlying OO" is a hack at best
19:59.35gnorlishclad
19:59.39cladhaireLaric: No, but there will be much dick-wagging =)
19:59.39gnorlishget out of here!
19:59.41cladhaireok
19:59.45cladhairebye everyone!
19:59.50Tembye
19:59.51Mikmabuhbye
19:59.52vhaarrbye
19:59.59Lariccladhaire have fun
20:00.00Mikmahave fun
20:00.05Laricand get lots of funding :P
20:00.07Kaeltenlater cladhaire
20:04.21Kaeltendid clad say when he was coming back?
20:04.27Kaeltenor is he going to be signing in from the UK?
20:04.44hyperChipmunkthink the latter
20:05.06Kaeltenk, cool
20:05.13hyperChipmunkhe uses a laptop
20:06.53CIA-1103nimbal * r10441 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
20:06.53CIA-11Druidcom:
20:06.53CIA-11Fixed reverse translation error
20:09.22Healthhttp://www.dtguilds.com/news-images/whereishe.jpg - which buff mod is that?
20:09.27HealthAnd is there one for debuffs too?
20:09.31Healthnoob me!
20:11.00CIA-1103rabbit * r10442 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs: Kelthuzad: Fix phase 3 soon warning.
20:11.01MikmaHealth: elkano's buffbar
20:11.12TupladHealth: :\ ebb
20:11.17CairennKaelten: other channel, re clad
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20:12.42CIA-1103nimbal * r10443 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua: Druidcom: Fixed the reverse translation error... no, really.
20:13.42knodiis anyone getting lag when releasing Shift with bartender2 pagemaster
20:13.47knodi?
20:14.48Mikmamy comp lags so much i don't notice if it lags after that
20:14.58HealthThanks
20:15.41knodiya its only with shift but not alt or ctrl
20:15.57knodiits just that bad but its really annoying
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20:16.20knodiand it only happens on my mage and no my warrior :/
20:16.31Mikmammkay i'll test it
20:16.35knodiwith only bartender turned on
20:17.21Mikmawell the author is idiot and the addon bartender sucks ass
20:18.05HealthYeah! I'm sure he's finnish too!
20:18.14Mikmaomg, talk about that one!
20:19.24CIA-1103nimbal * r10444 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua: Druidcom: Added Debug Messages
20:21.11Mikmaknodi: atleast doesn't lag with my priest
20:22.32knodidamn must be my side, it only does it with my mage
20:22.43knodii'll try something else brb
20:22.55Mikmawell i'll try with other chars too
20:22.56CIA-1103nevcairiel * r10445 10/branches/sRaidFrames/: sRaidFrames: Creating Branch
20:23.23CIA-1103nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r10446 10sRaidFrames/: sRaidFrames: Creating Private Branch
20:23.45knodiboth my bars are full with spell that might have something to do with it
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20:24.56nevcairieli guess that branching actually worked. hooray.
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20:29.10Sarozmeeeeh
20:29.13Sarozbranches suck
20:31.08nevcairieli modified some more stuff what my guild requested. but they like what you did :)
20:31.32Sarozsay wha?
20:32.25nevcairielbasicly that group hiding thing and rage/energy hiding thing where their main concerns .. working on some other stuff
20:32.39knodiMikma: i deleted the saves and all still get that lag when shift is released and switching back ot the bar 1
20:32.56nevcairielah and notification when your group is changed.
20:33.20nevcairielmainly stuff CTRA offerd
20:34.07Sarozmmm
20:34.15SarozI repeat, forking sucks
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20:35.06nevcairieli wont touch your version, just offering :)
20:35.13Mikmaknodi: funny :P
20:35.34nevcairielstupid Tortoise doesnt seem to be able to modify externals
20:35.52FtH|eagleright-click->properties (on the file)
20:36.05CIA-1103kaelten * r10447 10Ace2/ (32 files in 15 dirs):
20:36.27nevcairieli saw that option earlier when i used tortoise 1.4 RC .. but with the 1.3 version i dont have it
20:36.37Sarozworked fine for me
20:37.38eternally777O.O Kael commited Ace-2.13573942!
20:37.41knodiMikma: its so weird it does it on my Priest and Mage but not on my warrior. so weird
20:38.07Mikmaknodi: mm
20:39.17Mikmaknodi: works fine on my priest
20:39.26Mikmaand testing my druid and mage soon
20:42.00Saroz-.-
20:42.00JoshBorkekael commited e?
20:42.01FISKER_Qi read it
20:42.01knodijust tested it on my druid got the release lag on that too. I think it might have something to do with other spell bars
20:42.12FISKER_Qnow you have to do ~roulette eternally777
20:42.19FISKER_Q~roulette
20:42.24purlACTION watches fisker_q pull the trigger:  Click!
20:42.27FISKER_Q:(
20:42.28JoshBorke~tryme
20:42.29purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at joshborke and fires. A whale named Theodore who is the size of a small country flies into the target's face
20:42.45ThraeDAB used to give me horrible shapeshift lag
20:43.29ThraeEven back in April of '05, when my computer was newly built
20:44.18eternally777~roulette
20:44.20purlACTION watches eternally777 pull the trigger:  Click!
20:44.23eternally777sorry I was alt tabbed.
20:45.16Mikmaknodi: so what do you mean by the word "lag" anyway?
20:46.20Andalia_~roulette
20:46.22purlACTION watches andalia_ pull the trigger:  Click!
20:46.29Andalia_:)
20:46.43Mikma~tryme
20:46.45purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click.
20:49.06knodiMikma: when i release Shift when the bar pages back to bar1, i get .5sec of freeze up
20:49.40CIA-1103nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r10448 10sRaidFrames/libs/: Added AceLocale and Babble-Spell to externals
20:49.47knodiMikma: I only get it with Shift key and no CRTL or ALT keys
20:49.49FISKER_Q~tryme
20:49.50purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at claviola and fires. Click.
20:51.35knodiso is anyone else get this or am i the only unluckyone?
20:51.43Kebinusan~whalesquash FISKER_Q
20:51.45purlACTION runs out the way as a whale of biblical size named Gordo lands on FISKER_Q
20:51.46JoshBorkebye all :-)
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20:53.51Mikmaok
20:53.55Mikmawho broke FuXPFu
20:54.19MikmaFuXPFu.lua:342: attempt to call method 'Register' (a nil value)
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20:57.03MikmaJostle :P
20:57.37Mikmackknight: have you changed Jostle lately?
20:58.13eternally777I think he went to class
20:59.27Mikmaknodi: i just tested with Shamadin, Durid, Mage, and Priest. no bugs
21:03.37nevcairielcommit comming in.
21:03.46CIA-1103nevcairiel 07Nevcairiel * r10449 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFrames.toc sRaidFramesLocals.lua):
21:03.47CIA-11sRaidFrames (Nevcairiel Branch)
21:03.47CIA-11* Added option to hide Rage/Energy Bar
21:03.47CIA-11* Added notification when your group changes
21:03.47CIA-11* Added option to hide some groups/classes
21:03.48CIA-11* Changed PvE buff detection of innervate and divine intervention
21:04.13knodiMikma: damn i'm still getting it
21:04.28knodii removed WTF and the WDB folders too
21:04.40eternally777Say I have a string: "4 Johnny", and I want to seperate the number and the word into two variables, can I do "a, b = deformat("(%d) (%s).")"?
21:05.00*** join/#wowace Mery (i=metelman@p54AEE6D5.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:05.34wereHamsterwhy not string.find?
21:05.44Mikmamm i don't know wtf has happened with FuXPFu but it's screwed
21:05.47Thraeeternally777: deformat takes string.format patterns I believe
21:07.20Mikmaknodi: well i'm sorry but i can't help you to "fix" it. disable all other addons than BT2+pagemaster and test again
21:07.43eternally777Because I'm not good with string.find patterns :(
21:08.16Mikmawobin broke it!
21:09.04nevcairielanyone seen kyhax lately?
21:09.14Mikma~seen kyahx
21:09.17purlkyahx <n=Kyahx@144.13.213.101> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22h 39m 30s ago, saying: 'eternally777: I'd like to see that kind of thing as a library, yes :)'.
21:09.50nevcairieli ace2'd his ItemRackFu, wondering if he would mind if i update it on svn :)
21:10.47knodiMikma: ya I tryed that too, i'm going ot test it on my other computer to see if it happens there
21:12.39Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29065#post29065
21:12.47Tekkub*grin*
21:13.35CIA-1103saroz * r10450 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Added Power Infusion , as "Infused"
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21:19.46eternally777Can anybody proofread this: http://ace.pastey.net/664
21:20.45CIA-1103mikma * r10451 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: FuXPFu: jostle:Register(foo) -> jostle:RegisterTop(foo) jostle:RegisterBottom(foo) ... aka works without errors now
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21:22.08nevcairielstupid connection
21:22.38Mikma::: nevcairiel [n=mail@pD953BB1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Client Quit) -> ::: nevcairiel [i=nevcairi@powered.by.maxx-event.com] has joined #wowace
21:23.23Mikmafrom dialup to something?
21:23.27Mikmamight work better
21:23.46nevcairieli hope.
21:24.27NeeblerYou're as cold as ice! you're willing to sacrafice our love. you never take advice, someday you'll pay the price, I know
21:26.01Sarozmmm
21:26.24eternally777Is there an ace2 mod to sort the recipes in my alchemy window?  This is rediculous, I've read through this list 3 times looking for "Shadow Oil" becuase, heaven forbid, they put it under "Trade Goods" with all the other "oils"
21:26.24nevcairielplus i moved irc from my laptop to my pc .. i hate typing on that laptop thing
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21:28.00dreadlyoneuse cgCrafty. its a very simple, but very effective search box to the bottom of tradeskill windows
21:29.25eternally777it's not Ace2.. eww.
21:30.01eternally777just kidding :P
21:30.14dreadlyonesadly. no
21:30.25Gngskdid you get put in the huge box with all the money at the bottom and the leaf blower thing?
21:30.29vhaarreternally777: there's an ace addon for that
21:30.48vhaarrI can't remember what it's called but it is on the svn
21:31.05vhaarrit drills down the recipes
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21:35.13vhaarreternally777: http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/ReverseEngineering/
21:35.14vhaarrI think
21:35.33vhaarrupdate it for Ace2 ;)
21:35.53nevcairielwobin again :D
21:36.13eternally777checking it out now
21:36.16eternally777no pun intended
21:38.46AndaerWho's doing the FuXPFu Ace2 commits? I've just thrown together a toggle for border on the top/bottom when undocked noticing the request on the forums. Thought I'd give my coding skills a boost :D Anyone interested in committing it?
21:38.46Gngsk~framexml
21:38.50purlget the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p
21:39.39Gngsk~botsnack
21:39.40purl:), Gngsk
21:40.35Mikmaneat atleast 1 remembered that command
21:40.45NeronixAndaer: Talk to Wobin or Mikma
21:40.48vhaarrKel'Thuzad DOWN.
21:40.52vhaarrNihilum, world first.
21:40.56AndaerHokey doos - thankums
21:40.56Neronixwoo!
21:40.57vhaarrUsing BW ;)
21:40.59AndaerYeay!
21:41.04Neronixwtb link plx
21:41.12vhaarrhehe
21:41.17vhaarrNo link yet, fresh info ;)
21:41.18eternally777cgcrafty just broke my game
21:41.24Mikmatalk to teh hand, face ain't listening gege
21:41.24eternally777I searched for the letter "d"
21:41.27Neronixvhaarr: What? Did it happen NOW? :O
21:41.45AndaerWhat realm are Nihilum on?
21:41.54NeronixMagtheridon EU
21:41.55vhaarrNeronix: yes.
21:41.55nevcairieljust wondering, seeing that LCDXML stuff .. would you be able to modify the LCD output from some addon?
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21:41.59vhaarrNeronix: 10sec ago.
21:42.01NeronixSexcellent shit
21:42.05Mikmasince when i have been a FuXPFu -author O_O
21:42.06vhaarr(when I said it)
21:42.20vhaarrand guess what
21:42.28vhaarrthey are going to mention BW in their news entry :D
21:42.48eternally777lewts?
21:42.59vhaarrdidn't ask
21:43.00Neronix:D
21:43.16NeronixI wonder what those LA Vendetta guys will say about that
21:43.24gnorlish2x Frostfire Ring, The Hungering Cold, Soulseeker
21:43.42vhaarrNeronix :D
21:43.49vhaarrthey will ninja the mod ^^
21:44.29Healthw00t
21:44.42HealthListened to the vent stream to vhaarr ? :P
21:44.46HealthListened to it live!
21:45.11NeronixWhat vent stream?
21:45.38HealthOf the KT kill.. they streamed their vent during the kill
21:45.51HealthPlayed "We are the champions" when they downed him :p
21:45.55vhaarrno, I didn't
21:46.15vhaarrI'm sitting next to one of their players.
21:46.43vhaarrwell almost
21:46.44NeronixHealth: I mean, where is the stream? -_-
21:46.58Healthah.. it's down now.. too much traffic
21:47.03HealthThey have 3k people in ther irc channel now
21:47.07Healthincreasing
21:47.28[Ammo]haha
21:47.34[Ammo]BigWigs ftw!
21:47.47HealthYeah!
21:47.52HealthRDX ftl! :p
21:48.24Arrowmasterdoes DnT use RDX?
21:48.34vhaarrno
21:48.40vhaarrand not BW either
21:48.46vhaarrmaybe they should ;)
21:48.50Mikmalol
21:49.04HealthWell.. there were RDX on some of their screenshots?
21:50.45nevcairielon one screen of the 4HM that guy used RDX
21:51.13Mikmamm
21:51.22Mikmaseems like i can't disable xpbar on FuXPFu
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21:54.26nevcairielAnyone have any idea if i can modify the LCD output ( to Logitech G15 ) of WoW through addons?
21:56.36AndaerBeen wondering the same thing - but as far as I can see there's nothing...
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21:58.27CIA-1103mikma * r10452 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: FuXPFu: <Andaer> Just added a toggle for the border position (top/bottom) for FuXPFu on an undocked FuBar
21:58.41AndaerCheer!
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21:59.50LordRhysHi all
22:00.43Mikmanow i need to find out why the XPBar in FuXPFu cannot be hidden
22:01.17CIA-1103caldar * r10453 10oSkin/core.lua: Added MerchantFrame
22:01.38CIA-1103caldar * r10454 10oSkin/oSkin.toc: Added MerchantFrame
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22:02.00Cairenn[Ammo]: send me a PM on the site with a link to it, please? makes the transfer easier
22:03.10CIA-1103caldar * r10455 10oSkin/MerchantFrame.lua: Added MerchantFrame.lua
22:06.10Larichmm isnt it wrong that acegui-2.0 in ace2.0 lib contains aceoo and acelibraby?
22:06.22Laricdoesnt that kinda makes it redundant?
22:06.31kergothno
22:06.50Laricoki
22:06.50kergothwell, perhaps. depends on whether you can use acegui 2.0 without making your addon ace2
22:07.20Larickergoth I mean for instance acelocale doesnt contain the others even if it needs it
22:07.33kergothgood point
22:09.51CIA-1103kergoth * r10456 10HostelBar/HostelBar-SpellsDB.lua: HostelBar: add 'Sap' to rogue effects.
22:09.57LordRhyscould someone give me a hand with a tablet-2.0 error, not sure if on my end or somethign I may need to turn in to tekkub
22:10.57LordRhysI get this error: Tablet-2.0: You must add categories in within a registration.
22:11.44LordRhysI'm using the following: local cat = tablet:AddCategory(
22:11.44LordRhys'id', category,
22:11.44LordRhys'columns', 3,
22:11.45LordRhys'text', FactionName,
22:11.45LordRhys'text2',RepUnitNames[standing],
22:11.45LordRhys'text3',repValue.."/"..maxNeeded,
22:11.47LordRhys'text3R',0,
22:11.49LordRhys'text3G',0,
22:11.51LordRhys'text3B',1
22:11.53LordRhys)
22:11.59Neronix~whaletubes LordRhys
22:12.00purlACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into LordRhys's tubes. LordRhys's internets no worky :(
22:12.09NeronixPastebin next time >.>
22:12.37Gngskomg, you've been tubed!
22:13.22Cairennhttp://wowi.pastey.net
22:13.52LordRhyssorry bout that it's in pastey at this address: http://ace.pastey.net/667
22:16.09AndaerKel'Thuzad killshot if anyone's interested - http://mikkeltscherning.dk/nihi/loot.jpg
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22:17.34MikmaWobin: god damn you
22:17.43Gngsk:o
22:17.47Wobinwot?
22:18.05MikmaWobin: 1. you registered Jostle wrong. i had to fix it :D
22:18.11Wobinhehe
22:18.12Wobinthank you
22:18.14MikmaWobin: 2. Hiding XPBar don't work at all
22:18.21Wobinhm
22:18.25Mikmai'm currently inspecting that one out
22:18.31Wobincool
22:18.43WobinI do appreciate that... it was a bit late last night
22:19.07nevcairielg'nite :)
22:19.19MikmaWobin: well all i did was change the jostle:Register(foo) to jostle:RegisterTop(foo) and jostle:RegisterBottom(foo)
22:19.35Wobinaha
22:19.41Wobinblame ckknight then
22:19.44Mikmai did
22:19.45WobinThat's what the documentation said =P
22:19.48Wobinon the wiki
22:21.00Mikmai don't quite get how the XPBar thingy works
22:21.12Mikmaand why the spark+spark2 is visible after you hide it
22:23.45MikmaWobin: well ok, i lied a bit. the XPBar does hide but the self.Spark(2) don't
22:23.55Wobinhum
22:24.07WobinI'd check, but I have to get to work =(
22:24.21Mikmawell it's ok i'll test some crap out
22:24.27Wobinthanks =)
22:24.35Mikmaand btw i committed some code from Andaer moment ago etc
22:25.00AndaerI think I missed something
22:25.02AndaerHang on =)
22:26.45CIA-1103rabbit * r10457 10BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows/BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows.Lua: BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows: Make sure to hide the arrows when the mod is disabled.
22:27.43vhaarrGngsk: the oSkin dressing frame rotation stuff does not work
22:27.58vhaarrGngsk: it prevents you from rotating the model manually and does not rotate automatically at all
22:27.58Gngskvhaarr, talk to moonwolf :P
22:28.38CIA-1103id * r10458 10idChat2_Timestamps/idChat2_Timestamps.lua: idChat2_Timestamps: You can now set wether you want timestamps on or not per chatframe
22:28.46kergoth~praise Industrial
22:28.47purlAll hail Industrial!
22:29.02Industrial;)
22:29.42Gngskvhaarr, http://tinyurl.com/qy9f8
22:30.27vhaarryaya
22:30.28vhaarr^^
22:30.40Mikmalol
22:30.44Mikmait's completely borked
22:31.00Mikmaif XPBar ain't visible, Repbar don't get sparks either in load
22:31.37AndaerJust realised how messy my change is
22:32.25NeronixIndustrial, haste and all other people who'd be interested: Fortress Forever have released some kind of dustbowl preview video: http://forums.fortress-forever.com/showthread.php?t=6247
22:33.33IndustrialI saw it when defrag posted it in #fortressforever on quakenet
22:33.33Industrial:P
22:33.36Mikmahmm i found a glitch in oSkin AH window
22:33.42Industrialit owns, see the bodies fiying
22:33.43Industrial:D
22:34.02GngskMikma, I know. I'm trying to start working on it, but it isn't easy to fix.
22:34.13MikmaGngsk: well, what glitch? :D
22:34.33GngskThe Filter Tab Highlights
22:34.58MikmaGngsk: no
22:35.16Gngskok, then what'd you find?
22:35.25AndaerWhatever you're changing Mikma - don't do it on the one with my changes - I seem to be a lazy coder without actually being a coder.
22:35.26MikmaGngsk: or did you talk about the 3 tabs on bottomleft?
22:35.42AndaerThats on FuXPFu by the way
22:35.53MikmaAndaer: i'm not doing anything atm :P
22:35.54CIA-1103fleetfoot * r10459 10BigTrouble/libs/:
22:35.54CIA-11trunk/BigTrouble:
22:35.54CIA-11* Added external
22:36.44GngskMikma, no I'm not talking about the 3 tabs at the bottom. I know those don't work, but I changed the way tabs work on my local copy.
22:36.54GngskThe frame strata thing had issues, so I just inverted the tfade
22:37.24MikmaGngsk: ok well try selecting the 3 tabs and see what happens at them :)
22:37.51MikmaGngsk: it's not a bug, it's a glitch :)
22:38.23GngskMikma, selecting them all?
22:38.39MikmaGngsk: no, one at the time of course
22:39.09MikmaGngsk: ok, the first one jumps infront of AH windoww and the next 2 go under it
22:39.37Gngskyea, that's what I meant by issues
22:39.54Mikmamaking them all jump up would be better, easier to realize what is activated hehe
22:40.04HealthGngsk! The inspect frame tabs still need 3px y!
22:40.20GngskHealth, yea, they have it on my local copy
22:40.42CIA-1103caldar * r10460 10oSkin/AuctionFrame.lua: Correct AH sort highlight
22:40.49GngskI haven't been able to do much coding on oSkin, still trying to setup my workspace. Need to build a desk and setup both my computers
22:40.56Gngskzomg
22:41.08Mikmahaha
22:41.29Gngskcan't wait to see what he did
22:41.45Mikmathat was extremely funny
22:42.07Gngskheh, he did the easy way
22:42.13Gngskcan't believe I made such a simple mistake
22:45.35Mikmackknight: yo dewd
22:45.49Mikmackknight: now sure why, but my minimap ain't adjusting with FuBar
22:48.26Industrialhaste, you there? or anyone that works on oSkin
22:48.28Industrialself:removeRegions(_G["ChatFrameEditBox"], {6, 7, 8})
22:48.28Industrialself:applySkin(_G["ChatFrameEditBox"])
22:48.29Industrial???
22:48.53Industriali tried ChatFrameEditBox:SetBackdrop({}) but that didnt work
22:49.03MikmaIndustrial: poke Gngsk :)
22:49.25Mikmafunny thing
22:49.34Industrialwot
22:49.36Mikmai get a core.lua:16 error with that oSkin commit
22:49.51Gngskoh, sorry
22:49.57Mikmaself:merchantFrames()
22:50.00GngskI was posting in the thread to caladar
22:50.24Gngsker, caldar
22:50.35SlaymanKel down u american D&T fans
22:50.41SlaymanNihilum slayed him
22:50.48GngskSlayman, old news :P
22:50.54vhaarrHeh, you're a bit late.
22:51.06SlaymanMUAHAHA world first kill in naxx goes to Europe :D
22:51.11Mikmaaye
22:51.33N-NmEyeah, another world first for us :p
22:51.40GngskIndustrial, removeRegions() just iterates through frame:GetRegions() and SetAlpha(0)s whatever regions are in the list
22:51.45N-NmEwith a little help from the BigWigs team !
22:51.51Industrialwhats a region
22:51.52Industrial:E
22:52.00Gngsktextures usually
22:52.08MikmaN-NmE: GANKER!
22:52.17Gngskthe reason I took that approach is because blizz doesn't always give names to their regions
22:52.25N-NmE:(
22:52.29Gngskso you can't just go ahead and do texturename:SetAlpha(0)
22:52.34Industrialmeh but I have enable/disable chat commands so I need to preserve it before I delete it so I can put it back
22:52.41MikmaN-NmE: My lolliance mage is on Burning Legion ;)
22:52.53IndustrialBurning leaigon I have horde there
22:53.08N-NmEhehe :p
22:53.11Industrial24 priest or so
22:53.15N-NmEgood old burning legion
22:53.25GngskIndustrial, well, could add another flag to the function to tell it to either set the alpha to 0 or 1
22:53.25Temkergoth, you can
22:53.36Temkergoth, AceGUI only require AceOO and AceLibrary
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22:53.41Mikmayeah, my GF moved her druid out of there couple of weeks ago
22:53.53Industrialoh wait you only set the alpha to 0 or 1, thanks that'l work
22:53.59MikmaGngsk: so fix for the merchantFrames() ? :)
22:54.13Gngsksec
22:54.18HealthMikma: Only way to config page master is lua? :p
22:54.18Gngskwhen does that error pop for you?
22:54.22Gngskon load?
22:54.36MikmaHealth: atm, yes
22:54.47MikmaGngsk: yaya
22:55.28Gngskhmm
22:55.40CIA-1103mikma * r10461 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: FuXPFu: Here go
22:56.05MikmaGngsk: you crashed my wow
22:56.29TemLaric, it only has those 2 libs in there because of an old version
22:56.33TemLaric, they should be gone now
22:57.21HealthI'm not sure I see the use of the bar with no target? :P
22:58.00MikmaHealth: the bar with no target = hostilebar
22:58.25Healthaha
22:58.37HealthStupid me
22:58.48Mikmano, you just didn't know
22:59.01IndustrialGngsk, lol I did it but now I cant read my text :< guess I did ALL regions hehe
22:59.24GngskIndustrial, yea if you don't provide it a list it'll remove them all
22:59.46GngskMikma, I did nothing of the sort!
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23:00.46MikmaGngsk: yes yes, i tried to talk to AH dude and i got a crash
23:01.13GngskMikma, I'm not seeing this error you're getting. I'm using the 10460 from /files/ don't have tortoise on this computer atm.
23:01.42Mikmawtfzomgthen
23:02.53kergothTem: ah, cool
23:03.11Temthough, AceGUI is a mixin
23:03.21Temso it's a bit awkward if you're not using Ace2
23:05.07Kebinusanwoot grats to Nihilum
23:05.24Temkelthuzad?
23:05.39Kebinusanyea so it seems
23:05.42Tembadass
23:05.45CIA-1103caldar * r10462 10oSkin/AuctionFrame.lua: Commented out lytez's highlight code for the time being since it is non-functional.
23:05.48Temwhat's the loot?
23:06.11Andaerhttp://static.curse-gaming.com/nimage/340/loot.jpg
23:06.44Kebinusanwonder what the quest rewards are
23:06.45MikmaAndaer: i get a error with your code
23:07.06AndaerThat one I just sent you works okay for me
23:07.15AndaerExcept for with the rep bar - and some docking problems
23:07.22CIA-1103id * r10463 10idChat2_Editbox/idChat2_Editbox.lua: idChat2_Editbox: You can now toggle the chatframe backdrop on and off. Thanks Gngsk.
23:07.25AndaerBut I dont think thats my changes
23:07.30Industrial\o/ enough feature requests for today (3)
23:07.45MikmaFuXPFu.lua:226: AceLocale(FuXP): Translation "FuXP on Top When Undocked" does not exist.
23:07.48Mikmaso fixit :)
23:08.07Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/index.php/IdChat#Future
23:08.08Industrial:P
23:08.12Industrialnn ppl
23:08.24AndaerI did send you the updated locale file =D
23:08.36Mikmahmmh?
23:08.45Mikmathe 668 was locale?
23:08.45Industrialnn
23:09.05AndaerFuXPLocals - http://ace.pastey.net/669
23:09.15Andaer666 had it at the bottom
23:10.15CIA-1103mikma * r10464 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuXPLocals.lua: FuXPFu: Missing new locales
23:11.51MikmaGngsk: same error
23:12.04Mikmai'll try the latest rev too
23:13.10MikmaGngsk: wtf :D
23:13.16MikmaGngsk: check out the .toc ;D
23:13.37Mikmaoooh wait hehe
23:13.43Mikmai think that was my bad after all
23:13.49Mikmai got the Bottom.lua there
23:15.28MikmaGngsk: ok i got a big problem
23:15.36Gngskk
23:15.45MikmaGngsk: no matter what i do my game keeps crashing when i try to talk to AH dude
23:15.57Gngsk~emulate ag`
23:15.58purl~haste
23:16.05Gngskbah!
23:16.21Gngskdisable oSkin, see if it still happens?
23:16.28Mikmaso what i guess it has something to do with textures
23:18.55Mikmaor...
23:19.26Gngskahh, dinner time, bbiab
23:19.46Mikmastill keeps crashing
23:19.59Mikmawithout oSkin too
23:20.04Mikmanow this is getting interesting
23:21.11CIA-1103rabbit * r10465 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/BigWigs_HealbotAssist.lua:
23:21.12CIA-11BigWigs_HealbotAssist:
23:21.12CIA-11<PROTECTED>
23:21.12CIA-11<PROTECTED>
23:21.12CIA-11<PROTECTED>
23:21.12CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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23:28.44Mikmalol
23:28.49Mikmai think i found the crasher
23:30.31MikmaI hate to say this... but Mendeleev and Periodic Table needs to be ace2'd
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23:32.59Mikmai don't get it
23:33.14Mikmasome addon keeps crashing my game when i try to open AH
23:33.32Mikmabut now i need to sleep. thathaa
23:33.58Gngsknite
23:39.08KebinusanSEEA reverted?
23:39.58Kebinusanah I see it now
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23:49.22ThianaThe Bagnon skinning in oSkin doesnt work. I think it's because Bagnon configures the frame the first time the bags are opened, which overwrites the skinning done at ADDON_LOADED
23:50.04ThianaAnyone know how to hook a scrollframe update?
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23:51.38piehole-thiana: it worked for me  the other day, but now it's stopped.
23:56.04piehole-and the superinspect skin doesnt work either :(

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