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00:00.51sbuthats one problem - cant see that page, browser stuck while loading
00:01.18sbuah
00:02.56KebinusanSendChatMessage("taco", "RAID"); I think
00:03.08sbuyah, got it, thx :)
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00:11.47sbuself:CancelAllScheduledEvents <-- this affects only events scheduled by 'self'?
00:13.33kergoth[2006/09/04 16:51:13-164]: CompostLib\CompostLib.lua:53: attempt to compare number with nil
00:13.37kergothCompostLib\CompostLib.lua:53: in function `NeedsUpgraded'
00:13.39kergothlibs\ProximityLib.lua:9: in main chunk
00:14.39CIA-1103cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10151 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidConfig.lua):
00:14.39CIA-11PerfectRaid:
00:14.39CIA-11* Added arcane intellect for mana users, if the player is a mage.
00:14.39CIA-11* Removed selection bauble
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00:16.20bindibleh
00:16.25bindineed a decent outfit mod
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00:20.31kergotheither itemrack or outfitter imo
00:27.17PProvostI've been very happy with Outfitter. Prefer the integrated UI to a separate one.
00:27.53kergothi like outfitter's ui, but it has gc churn issues when looting
00:28.01kergothmust be rescanning the inventory every time you loot for possible gear
00:28.14CIA-1103grimwald * r10152 10oRA2/Participant/Buff.lua:
00:28.14CIA-11oRA2:
00:28.14CIA-11* (Participant/Buff): added Amplify Magic => 20 and Dampen Magic => 21 (as used in latest CTRA)
00:29.16PProvostHmmm... hadn't noticed that.
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00:29.50PProvostIs there an Ace equivalent of CT_PlayerNotes? Perferably one that can import/use the CT SavedVars?
00:30.23CIA-1103ven * r10153 10vChat/ (Core.lua locals.lua):
00:30.23CIA-11vChat:
00:30.23CIA-11<PROTECTED>
00:30.23CIA-11<PROTECTED>
00:31.20CIA-1103grimwald 07Grimwald * r10154 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/Optional/Buff.lua:
00:31.20CIA-11oRA2_Buff:
00:31.20CIA-11* moved debugging code
00:31.20CIA-11* fixed bug with unitID == "target" for local buff tracking
00:31.20CIA-11* PW:F and PoF now are in proper order
00:31.20CIA-11* added support for Amplify and Dampen Magic
00:32.33bindibleh outfitter it will be then :)
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00:34.13KemayoPProvost: AuldLangSyne.
00:34.43Kemayo...which I should really put up on an addon site now that the SVN is being closed off.
00:35.18PProvostIt will use an existing CT database? Or can import it?
00:35.25KemayoIt can import it.
00:36.35PProvostKiller. One more CT bites the dust.
00:36.44PProvostOnce GMail is done, I think I will be done with it.
00:36.44Moondrake[G5]say, i saw some screenshot with FuBar bars that not go through the whole screen, is that done with visor or is there an option to scale width inFuBar?
00:37.04PProvostI've accidentally popped them off and resized them, but it wasn't intentional.
00:37.07KemayoMoondrake[G5]: I think you can just drag the edges.
00:37.43PProvostA friend complained that he couldn't make them refill the full width after doing that, but I think he probably didn't know about grabbing the edges.
00:38.04PProvostKemayo: I import via a slash command?
00:38.05Moondrake[G5]oohhhh nice, thanks guys ;)
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00:39.50bindiPProvost any clue if outfitter 1.4 is really the latest version? cause i had some problems with curse-gaming addons being outdated
00:39.58KemayoPProvost: Yup.  /auld ctimport, as I recall.
00:40.15Kaeltenhows it going guys?
00:40.29bindifine ffcourse :)
00:40.32bindihows u doing?
00:40.37Gngskwiping on razuvious = good times!
00:40.50KemayoYou need CT_PlayerNotes enabled at the time, and you'll have to do it once per server you play on, as CT_PlayerNotes doesn't track which server a note is for...
00:43.07KaeltenMentalPower: are you on the cosmos team or the auctioneer team?
00:43.54MentalPowerauctioneer
00:43.59MentalPowery?
00:44.12KaeltenI knew it was one or the other, but couldn't remember which :)
00:44.20Kaeltenwelcome to #wowace :)
00:44.45MentalPowerthanks, I've been here a while already, but thanks non the less
00:45.06Kaeltenheh, I'm the mostly afk leader of this community so I never notice much till its too late :)
00:45.14MentalPowerlol
00:45.55KaeltenOne thing I can't argue about auctioneer, you guys have the math down better than I do
00:47.28Kaeltenand a better gui
00:47.30Kaelten:)
00:47.50PProvostKemayo: Cool. Thanks.
00:53.49CIA-1103kemayo * r10155 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: Import ignore and guild notes from CT_PlayerNotes, too.
00:55.13PProvosthaha... guess I need to import again. :D
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00:57.54KemayoYeah, it's something I was meaning to get around to doing for ages.  :-D
01:00.54CIA-1103kemayo * r10156 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: Formatting tweak for offline friends.
01:04.11MentalPowerKaelten: Thanks, but yours is a lot slimmer too
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01:06.55CIA-1103grimwald 07Grimwald * r10157 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/Optional/Buff.lua:
01:06.55CIA-11oRA2_Buff:
01:06.55CIA-11* commented and tweaked PrintTimesLeft()
01:08.47CIA-1103grimwald 07Grimwald * r10158 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/Optional/Buff.lua:
01:08.47CIA-11oRA2_Buff:
01:08.47CIA-11* typo
01:09.01CIA-1103ven * r10159 10vChat/Core.lua: vChat: fixed timestamp coloring
01:18.38PProvostOkay... how about an alt to CT_MapMod?
01:25.03KemayoDon't think I've seen one yet.  I have one half-written in my addons directory, though, but it's far from working.
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01:30.54CIA-1103cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10160 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaid.toc RaidSimulation.lua):
01:30.54CIA-11PerfectRaid:
01:30.54CIA-11* Added a simulation mode for my own purposes. Use with caution PerfectRaid:Simulate()
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01:35.30bindithis is weird
01:35.33bindithe sidebars
01:35.37bindifrom bartender2
01:35.50bindiare switched, so top = bottom and bottom = top no
01:35.51bindiw
01:38.54CIA-1103pprovost 07PProvost * r10161 10FuBar_PoisonFu/: FuBar_PoisonFu: Deleted old branch
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01:39.59PProvostKemayo: Which part of CT_MapMod? Sending loc to people or the gatherer-lite part or both?
01:40.36CIA-1103pprovost 07PProvost * r10162 10FuBar_PoisonFu/: FuBar_PoisonFu: Creating new branch for ItemID rework.
01:41.12CIA-1103pprovost 07PProvost * r10163 10FuBar_PoisonFu/Core.lua:
01:41.12CIA-11FuBar_PoisonFu
01:41.12CIA-11- Starting ItemId conversion
01:53.47CIA-1103cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10164 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua RaidSimulation.lua):
01:53.47CIA-11PerfectRaid:
01:53.47CIA-11* Names are now pulled from tolkien lore as opposed to "Alice", "Bob", "Carol"
01:53.47CIA-11* PerfectRaid:Simulate() will now toggle simulation on or off
01:55.03Kebinusanheh
01:55.11CIA-1103grimwald 07Grimwald * r10165 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/Optional/Buff.lua:
01:55.11CIA-11oRA2_Buff:
01:55.11CIA-11* printing sender in debug messages (in the message handler)
01:55.11CIA-11* rosterlib unit entry changed from ora_bufftimers to ora_buffs
01:55.11CIA-11* inheriting oRA2 core's debug frame
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02:05.50Tekkubanyone on the wowi channel... I need Devla
02:06.19Temhe's not around atm
02:06.26Tekkubbugger
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02:07.16Tekkubwhat?
02:07.29ScytheBlade1I hear you're the author of perfecttargets
02:07.38Tekkubyarr
02:07.41ScytheBlade1yarr ftw
02:07.47ScytheBlade1I had a slight request
02:07.57Tekkubif it's what I think you're gonna say
02:07.59Tekkubno...
02:08.04ScytheBlade1What am I going to say? :)
02:08.12Tekkublets see if I'm right
02:08.15Tekkubspit it out
02:08.31ScytheBlade1Have another mode which shows how many mobs are targeting a person
02:08.44ScytheBlade1rather, a raid member, not person
02:09.35Tekkubsounds like something a unitframe should do, not a target frame
02:10.22ScytheBlade1I just saw a perfecttargets switch to change moes
02:10.23ScytheBlade1*moeds
02:10.35ScytheBlade1... *modes
02:11.06Tekkub:P it ain't PerfectTargetsOfTargets
02:11.31ScytheBlade1haha
02:11.34ScytheBlade1Well fair enough
02:11.40ScytheBlade1Just you know, hoping
02:11.47Tekkubtarget scanning is costly as is
02:11.51ScytheBlade1Was it what you were thinking though?
02:11.58Tekkubtargettarget scanning would just compound the cost
02:12.16ScytheBlade1Yeah, I'm not thinking that it's light
02:12.19Tekkubpeople keep asking for ToT and MainTank shit for PTarg :P
02:12.26TekkubI figgered it's one of the two
02:13.25ScytheBlade1MT already exists
02:13.34ScytheBlade1It's called other addons ;)
02:13.38kergothi love perfecttargets.  i use ora or ora2's mt frames for that
02:13.46kergothdont add unnecessary crap to the former
02:13.48kergothheh
02:13.53Tekkubyea well people keep thinking PTarg is a MT frame
02:14.01Tekkubwhich tends to lead to the ToT thing
02:14.20kergoththere are plenty of good mt frame addons that work with ctra/ora and such, no point
02:14.23kergothsilly people
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02:18.35ckknighthey all
02:23.33Gngskhey ck
02:23.40CIA-1103cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10166 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Highlights now stick.
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02:28.57CIA-1103grimwald 07Grimwald * r10167 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/Optional/Buff.lua:
02:28.57CIA-11oRA2_Buff:
02:28.57CIA-11* typo in debug messages
02:28.57CIA-11* using exact buff duration when "player" gains a buff
02:30.54bindiaha
02:31.00bindiotravi casting bar only ace1 mod
02:31.03bindirest is ace2 :D
02:31.13Gngskget ocb2 :D
02:31.34bindibut
02:31.35bindiwhere?
02:31.39bindiits not on svn?
02:31.47Gngskbranches I believe
02:31.58bindichecking
02:33.38bindihmm
02:34.25bindihttp://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/otravi_CastingBar/otravi/
02:34.28bindiGngsk?
02:35.39Kebinusangod why must so many people suck at dancing on heigan
02:35.49bindilol
02:36.20bindinever saw the fight, pretty interested
02:36.28bindicaus everywhere i hear about dancing :o
02:36.55Kebinusanwatch the vid by hastes guild, its the best one Ive seen, search for refusion on warcraftmovies.com
02:44.34bindino hits when searching on that
02:45.04Kebinusanhmm lemme find the link
02:45.42Kebinusanhttp://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=26301
02:49.06CIA-1103cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10168 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua:
02:49.06CIA-11PerfectRaid:
02:49.06CIA-11* Updated layout to center the name within the bar
02:52.34CIA-1103cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10169 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua:
02:52.34CIA-11PerfectRaid:
02:52.34CIA-11* StatusBars are now one pixel smaller, looks better visually.
03:00.09CIA-1103cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10170 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidOptions.lua): PerfectRaid: Added /praid range for range checking
03:07.21hasteNeronix: oCB2 was a ace1 add on, and I planned to use Dewdrop
03:07.24haste:3
03:09.00hasteand vhaarr I can't remember refusing to have dewdrop removed :<
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03:27.45eternally777Is there an Ace version of Gatherer?
03:31.15PProvosthehe... popular question lately.
03:31.20PProvostAs far as I can tell... no.
03:31.34PProvost~Gatherer
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03:36.03mjc_anything hot going on lately?
03:36.36Kebinusanugh, heigan is really sucking ass for us, we havent had more than 10 people live through a dance yet
03:38.14eternally777:(
03:39.01eternally777http://wishiwascool.com/images/Heigan.jpg
03:39.02eternally777:)
03:40.49Kebinusanrofl
03:46.09CIA-1103tardmrr 07Ace2 * r10171 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua RaidSimulation.lua): PerfectRaid: Fixed bar color issues with respect to HP Severity.
03:47.16CIA-1103tardmrr 07Ace2 * r10172 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua RaidSimulation.lua): PerfectRaid: Removed a few left over debug lines
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03:56.03eternally777AceWiki broken?
03:57.20Gngskworks for me
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03:58.12Gngskoh, yea
03:58.16Gngskget an error when I try to log in
03:58.44Gngsko_O
03:58.47Gngsknow the mainpage doesn't work, heh
04:06.25CIA-1103tardmrr 07Ace2 * r10173 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Added hack for truncate issue
04:08.55CIA-1103tardmrr 07Ace2 * r10174 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Corrected method call for stoping the simulation
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04:12.51CIA-1103pprovost 07PProvost * r10175 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua Locale_enUS.lua):
04:12.51CIA-11FuBar_PoisonFu
04:12.51CIA-11- Converted to ItemIds instead of names.
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04:22.23CIA-1103tardmrr * r10176 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/wowtester.lua: AceGUI-2.0: Added tester file
04:23.36TemI miss the days when I could do this: http://imagelink.org/temp/333
04:25.14hasteI miss the randomness of Curse of X
04:25.44hastemy blue/green L50 warlock did as high crits as my L60 epic geared :p
04:25.47KebinusanYeah the good ole days
04:25.48Temit's just... with my current gear, both trinkets would have me critting over 3k
04:26.05Tem*sadface*
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04:26.20Kebinusanhttp://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whyidiefz5.jpg http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sig1tx8.jpg
04:26.38hastecheats :3
04:26.57Gngskuse lower rank spells nub
04:27.01hasteMr. Radagast did a 4800 crit on my rogue, not fun
04:27.17hasteI dueled him after a patch kill
04:28.11Kebinusanheh yeah potted and flasked would be entertaining in a duel
04:28.30CIA-1103otravi * r10177 10oApplication/oApplication.lua: oApplication - Added fishing lures.
04:29.04Arrowmasterbefore 1.12 i seemed to always be on of the first people targeted in a bg zerg
04:29.18Arrowmasteri guess people on my server learned i hit to hard to be left alone
04:30.02Tem(oh, it's worth noting that my gear at the time of that old screenshot was all blue with the exception of a few slots)
04:30.26Arrowmasterhad some fun the first few days after 1.12 because i seemed to keep running into undergeared priests with too little hp because i kept one shoting them
04:30.47hastesounds like you play a hunter :3
04:30.52Arrowmasterwarlock
04:31.03Arrowmasterwith 587 +dmg
04:31.16hasteThat's 286 more then my alt warlock :(
04:31.23hastebut I don't bring it to BWL for that matter
04:31.49hasteI will tho', as soon as I've geared my rogue there
04:32.14Arrowmasterheh ive only got like 3 items from bwl, only use 2 of them
04:32.54hasteI did one MC run on my warlock
04:33.05hastewalked out with 7/8 felheart and 1/8 nemesis :3
04:33.13hastethink I have a image of that still
04:33.26KebinusanI hate heigan
04:34.05Arrowmaster7/8 felheart but i dont wear any of it, just have it
04:34.51Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
04:34.51Arrowmasterhttp://ctprofiles.net/71260
04:35.03hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_011006_092423.png
04:35.06haste:3
04:35.16hastethat was a little later that day
04:35.42Arrowmasterheh nice
04:36.35Arrowmasterive got way too much /played on my lock
04:36.53hasteI added how much played I have on all my three L60s :(
04:36.57hastewas kinda depressing :p
04:37.26Arrowmasterim at like 150+ days total, 140+ days on my lock
04:37.38hasteI have 110 on my shaman, which I only raid with
04:37.46hasteand 65 on my warlock
04:37.51hasteand 41 on my rogue now
04:38.48hastethen again, I have WoW running even if I don't intend to play
04:38.57Arrowmasterlol i do the same
04:39.14Arrowmastermy friends and guildmates yell at me for all the time i spend idle in org
04:39.21Arrowmasterwhile im alt-tabed out
04:39.34TemTekkub, ping
04:40.09Arrowmasteri really do wish i had played more before the CoS/CoE nerf
04:40.26hasteI leveled up before that nerf
04:40.48Arrowmasteri had shit gear at that time and only broke 3k crit once and it was the night before the patch
04:41.32hasteI wasn't SM/Ruin at that time
04:41.54hasteThinking of speccing Conflag again on my warlock now :3
04:42.09Arrowmasteri was MD/Ruin then, never going back to it though
04:42.14Harrowed<- Nub.. 9+ months away and I've forgotten how to play my Warrior so have had to roll a mage :(
04:42.24ckknighthehe
04:43.57Kebinusansm/ruin 4 life*    * = except for the weekend respec every couple of weeks
04:44.28Arrowmasterpff 7/21/21+2 man
04:45.41Arrowmasterits quite fun tanking most the trash in mc because nobody can pull aggro off me
04:46.06KebinusanI prefer to live
04:46.16Arrowmasteri did that night
04:46.21Kebinusanbesides I never get a chance to ds a pet
04:46.25hasteWe don't do MC :(
04:46.31Kebinusanonly bringing 3-4 warlocks to naxx is bleh
04:46.48Arrowmasterit was quite fun because we had a shadowpriest there
04:46.49Kebinusanhaste, yeah we only run it once and a while when we're bringing 5 or so puggies to earn some gold
04:46.49HarrowedAt least you guys have 60's :P
04:47.19Kebinusanlately its been bwl for cash though
04:47.36hasteKebinusan: or, we did a 17man last week, and killed the first three bosses
04:47.37Arrowmasterwe just do MC for rag/alts/bindings
04:47.45hastethen we left since it was 05:00 in the morning :p
04:47.52haste10g per boss :3
04:48.10Kebinusanyeah probably less deaths 17 man than 40 man too
04:48.16Arrowmasterhow can you get 10g per boss with 17 people?
04:48.41Arrowmasteri dont even get 2g per boss with 40 in mc
04:48.51hastetry it
04:49.02hasteyou get 9g -> 10g 50
04:49.18Gngsk17 man garr would be interesting
04:49.20KebinusanThe trick is to not loot the gold until some people are out of range
04:49.44hasteKebinusan: ah, we do that all the time on last bosses, loot the gold last
04:50.21CodayusGngsk: I've seen someone tank Garr and all his adds at once...so...
04:50.38KebinusanWe used to have little contests in mc and whoever won got to raid drop and loot the gold from rag
04:50.45CodayusThat tactic cuts down on the need for tanks/banishes.
04:51.16hasteWarriors with tier three has no problem tanking a couple of the garr adds
04:51.33Kebinusanmy latest thing has been texas holdem 50g buyin during bwl clear
04:51.42hastehehe
04:51.48Arrowmasteror you could kite them, the garr adds cant attack while moving
04:52.09Kebinusandont get em too far away
04:52.13Kebinusanthey gain seperation anxiety
04:52.17CodayusThe video I saw was of an AQ40 geared guild having a feral druid tank them all in a clump - no kiting.
04:52.23CodayusNaxx wasn't out then.
04:52.36Arrowmasteryeah i know, i have fun sticking mine into the tunnel to geddon and leaving it there
04:52.39haste'cause of the armor probably
04:52.44Codayus*nod*
04:52.45hasteFeral druids have sick amounts of armor and hp :<
04:52.53hastewe use one to soak on patch :3
04:53.23CodayusInsane armor and good aggro generation...
04:53.45PProvostHey Kebinusan, was this link (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whyidiefz5.jpg) yours?? What chat mod is that?
04:54.20hastelooks like "good" old hitsmode
04:54.34Kebinusanyeah that was hits mode
04:54.39Kebinusanthats an old screenshot
04:55.36Arrowmasterlol haste i just noticed your warlocks melee attack ratting in that pic as i was about to close the tab
04:55.50Arrowmasterpickup that mageblade that run too?
04:55.54hasteyeh
04:56.03hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_010906_220144.png :3
04:56.16hastegmotd was changed to "Refusions guide to raiding: minbid" that day
04:57.17hastelook at the time stamps and you can see I've played longer on the second image when the played it taken
04:57.43hasteentered MC with 1h played at L60 ^^
05:23.21Mikma<0104> <Mikma> Gngsk: sems liek yhose bars that are black need to be activared
05:23.27Mikma:D
05:23.30Mikmafunny medicine
05:23.45Mikmai can see myself typing like that but i don't have the energy / interest to fix it
05:25.40NeeblerMikma: me either, thats why I use a spellchecker addon :P
05:26.24Neeblerwhich I got rid of about 2 patchs ago when I was cleaning out my addons trying to find out which one had a memory leak, and now I need to find it again
05:27.56Neeblerah ha, found it. it was by sarf
05:45.54Mikmamm i don't actually use that many plugins for irssi
05:46.11Mikmakeepnick.pl seems to be the onlyone
05:58.04Mikma<PROTECTED>
05:58.05MikmaIf you cast a buff that's too high level for a friendly target, the game will automatically use the appropriate rank of that spell instead.
05:59.21CIA-1103grayhoof * r10178 10EavesDrop/ (4 files): EavesDrop: Added labels to top. Change their color alpha to zero to hide them.
06:01.38oxmanwhere do you have find that Mikma ?
06:02.18Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114
06:02.22oxmanthanks
06:02.40oxmanthere is heal spells you can't target on low level ?
06:03.07Mikmanope
06:03.19oxmanok
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06:06.10oxmanyou can post on US forum Mikma ?
06:06.13Mikmanope
06:06.40oxmanhm ok
06:06.49oxmanbecause i want target argument in SPELLCAST_START
06:06.49oxman:p
06:07.31oxmanwoot ! very good Key Bindings, specially if you can do that for macro too
06:23.05Mikmato be honest, i didn't get my AH working with oSkin yesterday
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06:27.03FISKER_Q\anyone remembers how you can toggle the talentbook without being level 10?
06:27.41Mikmanope
06:29.12Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2034.msg40342.html#msg40342
06:29.14MikmaHAHAHAHHAHAAAAA!
06:29.19Mikmathat made my day :D
06:30.44ckknightlol.
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06:31.22oxmanactually you cant replace the background of chatframe with oSkin
06:31.22oxman:p
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06:31.36Mikmaand actually it's not a texture at all
06:31.44ckknightwell, it sorta is
06:31.49ckknightit's really just black with a gradient
06:32.52oxman:p
06:33.10oxmanckknight you can post on US forum right ?
06:33.17ckknightsure can.
06:33.27krkai dont get it... what's funny?
06:33.29oxmanplease ask target argument in SPELLCAST_START event
06:33.29oxman:)
06:33.36Mikmackknight: "sorta", but it's a frame with gradient in it = not a texture :)
06:33.41oxmankrka he asking a texture don't exist
06:33.47ckknightMikma, ah, right.
06:34.01ckknightkrka, he wants to reproduce oSkin with DART.
06:34.22Mikmayeah and the thing is oSkin uses 0 textures :)
06:34.34ckknightum, wrong?
06:34.36oxmanlike the name said ;D
06:34.37Mikmait creates new frames with gradient and applies the frame as background/texture
06:34.45ckknightit uses a texture.
06:34.46oxmanoSkin = otravi Skin and 0 skin
06:34.46FISKER_Q\ckknight you know how  to show the talentframe without being level 10?
06:34.47oxman:p
06:34.49ckknightdoesn't it?
06:34.55krkaoh i see
06:34.58ckknightno, fiSKER_Q, you can't
06:34.59Mikmaoh right, there's 2 textures actually
06:35.06ckknightleast I don't think so
06:35.08ckknightI dunno.
06:35.13FISKER_Q\you can :P
06:35.16Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/oSkin/textures/glaze.tga
06:35.16FISKER_Q\i had the command earlier
06:35.19ckknightoxman, if you give me a whole post you want to ask and the link I'll do it.
06:35.23Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/oSkin/textures/krsnik.tga
06:35.24FISKER_Q\something about loadaddon and show talent frame combined
06:35.31krkais there a performance boost by not using textures? or is it just a taste thing?
06:35.43oxmanckknight ok I post on fr forum then give you the link
06:35.49Mikmabut i think the textures aren't used in backgrounds
06:35.55Mikmathey are used for bars and such?
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06:43.14Mikmayeah, to me it seems oSkin does actually use the 2 textures it has, but that's only for statusbars and such :)
06:43.34Mikmabut all the backgrounds are made with oSkin:ApplySkin()
06:44.36oxmanckknight : http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicID=21252367
06:44.50oxmanckknight : http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=21252367
06:45.00oxman(low d :p)
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06:48.59ckknight_http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16611721&postId=165102392&sid=1#0
06:49.58oxmanmerci / thanks
06:55.29CIA-1103ammo * r10179 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: MainTank growup back to what I originally made
06:57.29Mikmackknight: if that post won't do the job, someone shoulf get fired :D
06:57.41Mikmagooo [Ammo]
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06:58.11Mikma~emulate ckknight
06:58.26purlf*ck you, guy
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07:12.30CIA-1103ammo * r10180 10oRA2/ (Optional/MainTank.lua Textures/bantobar.tga): oRA2: bantobar sexy texture added for MTs
07:12.42oxmanHum
07:12.48oxmanDefinitively, I need to test oRA2
07:12.53oxmanI want see the sexy texture ;p
07:15.33CIA-1103ammo * r10181 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: setting the textures should now support different locales as well.
07:27.24oxmanhum
07:27.31oxman[Ammo] i can't set maintank
07:27.44oxmanmaintank.lua 122 : attempt to concatenate local 'num' a nil value
07:28.07Mikmarelog :P
07:28.26oxman?!
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07:29.31oxmanstill same error
07:30.52oxmanhum ok
07:30.57oxmanthe syntax is "number name"
07:31.02oxmani've write only "name"
07:31.30kergothoxman: i had that problem too, the aceconsole for it isnt done well
07:31.40kergoths/aceconsole/aceoptions table/
07:31.55oxmanthen the name is case sensitive :[
07:31.57oxmannot very good
07:33.12oxman[Ammo] i add option to show -health instead health% or you do it ?
07:35.07oxmanand inverse health option too :)
07:37.20Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12884021&sid=1
07:37.25Mikmathis is a sad bug
07:37.51MoonWolfyes i know
07:38.03MoonWolfchatjustify suffers this problem too
07:38.07Mikmayeah :P
07:38.20Mikmathat's why i had to remove it since i used it on my chatframe1
07:38.34Mikmaand i WOULD use the centered text if the bug wouldn't be there
07:39.04Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15293833&sid=1 someone should point him to right direction
07:39.45Mikmaseems like he uses DART to move the border of the minimap and not minimap itself ;D
07:40.01MoonWolfi would suggest that he visit the people who made the addons in question.
07:40.04MoonWolfnot the wow forums
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07:42.15evlDoes Ace2 include a default prin() function?
07:42.18evlprint() even
07:42.32ckknight_AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print()
07:42.47evlso if I've mixed in AceConsole I have print automagically?
07:42.51Codayusyeah
07:42.55evlkewl
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07:43.25MikmaMoonWolf: no that's not a squeenix problem at all :) it's DART's fault completely
07:43.39MoonWolfwell, he can go there then.
07:43.40MikmaMoonWolf: atleast to me it seems that he's trying to move the border of the minimap
07:44.04Mikmaso a quick reply: User is stupid.
07:44.37MoonWolfthe user is alway's stupid.
07:44.53MikmaMoonWolf: fix your addon!
07:45.00MoonWolffix my life!
07:45.06Mikmauser is stupid!
07:45.09MoonWolfits broken ?
07:45.13Mikmadunno
07:45.16Mikmajust wanted to be stupid
07:45.39MoonWolfright
07:45.44Mikmaoh wait, i am! using addons by all of you = megastupid
07:46.48CodayusHmm
07:46.51Health*theehee*
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07:47.09kergothhm, didnt someone do a rating/points type system for gear for a rogue, accounting for agi vs attack power and such?
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07:48.17Mikmalike "tankpoints" but "roguepoints"?
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07:50.17evlkergoth: AEP
07:50.18XLVIImm..
07:50.24evlhttp://rydergmspo.com/roguespot/AEP18.htm
07:50.25XLVII:)
07:50.36evlkergoth: I use this: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3107-1-jubei39s-aep.html
07:51.58kergothah, cool, thanks :)
07:52.24kergothi just have an assload of gear in my inventory and having trouble deciding which combinations are optimal for which situations
07:52.36kergothfigure thatll help with ballpark comparisons, not perfect of course, but something
07:53.36evlWell people have different assumptions
07:53.42evlAEP assumes 1 AGI = 1 STA
07:53.49kergoththat addon looks like i can adjust the weights though
07:53.56kergothso thats perfect then, can tweak to my liking
07:54.49Mikmai wonder why do i have a such a big hate against RDX eventho i haven't used it
07:56.00Healthhehe
07:56.07FISKER_Q\evl
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07:56.17MoonWolfBecause we spent a lot of time since the lauch of wow to build up an addon community that basically reqeuests nothing in return.
07:56.28FISKER_Q\didn't you know how to get the talent frame to show before getting level 10?
07:56.43evlCan't have been me :)
07:56.46MikmaMoonWolf: mm, that's a good one, i'll stick to that one
07:56.48MoonWolfand he barges in "PAY PLX", and he isn't even producing extreemly good stuff.
07:56.52FISKER_Q\damn
07:57.08Mikmaor maybe i'll just enter my megauber-prepaid-feature in bartender2 and set up a paypal
07:57.09evlFISKER_Q: You can proably snoop around in FrameXML
07:57.12Industrialis it even legal to sell an addon?
07:57.22evlIt's not
07:57.23oxmanwhy not Industrial ?
07:57.25MikmaIndustrial: according to ckknight's reply, no
07:57.29MoonWolflegal, law wise perfectly.
07:57.35evlBlizzard will punch you in the face so fast you won't have time to spell account banned.
07:57.41MoonWolfagreement with blizzard wise, do not think so.
07:57.42evlMoonWolf: nope
07:57.49Industrialbecause blizzard doesnt accept 'partners' ?
07:58.00Healthwell.. you can sell your time developing it I guess
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07:58.05FISKER_Q\well it was something like /script LoadAddOn("Blizzard_TalentUI") TalentFrame:Show()
07:58.07FISKER_Q\something like that
07:58.08evlBlizzard has very specifically stated in it's EULA that they own ANYTHING in the game
07:58.17FISKER_Q\but can't remember the correct syntax
07:58.25Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15563145&sid=1
07:58.27oxmani've made the deficit option for ora maintank, now the inverse function :p
07:58.29evlIncluding anything that builds on their derivative works.
07:58.37MikmaEverytime i see a RDX mentioned i see red
07:58.43evlincluding addons
07:58.52Mikmathere's ckknight's reply in that url
07:59.08evlIf you wrote a Lua script that didn't use a single Blizzard function you could probably sell it
07:59.15evlOtherwise, don't think so mam
07:59.19Industrialevl, but its not derivative.. everything ive written is 100% not copy pasted or built upon blizzard lua/xml
07:59.25evlSo what
07:59.31evlLike I said, if you use their functions
07:59.36Industrialah ofcource
07:59.39Industrial=P
07:59.48evlHow can you write an addon that doesn't use any builtin stuff? :P
07:59.51kergothusing bliz api functions is like using any library, definately a derivative work
08:00.04evlIt would have to run perfectly with "lua -f <file>"
08:00.10evlAnd I bet RDX won't do much then
08:00.15Industrialblizzard slaps rdx around a bit with a large lawsuit
08:00.21evlthey will
08:00.26Industriali hope
08:00.54evlStill, if they don't have a case
08:00.55MoonWolfit is really really easy, even if they don't want to make a lawsuit out of it, they can say, our game, you no use this addon.
08:01.03evlthey will sue that person out of their pants in seconds.
08:01.36Industrialwhy is this man guilty? cause im a good lawyer! \o/
08:01.46evlI'd be careful if I were RDX, Blizzard hasn't exactly historically been very merciful versus people trying to fuck them over or even steal a single cent of their profits.
08:01.49Mikmahmm
08:01.53Industrialkinda skewed world init :P
08:02.00Mikmai started to wonder how can i make a copyprotection in addon
08:02.15MoonWolfnot
08:02.22MoonWolfimpossible, no outside communication.
08:02.43Mikmawell i'm thinking about RDX and the so called "copyprotection"
08:02.49evllol
08:02.49[Ammo]you'd have to encrypt part of it, but include the decription key
08:02.57Mikmaone that i can thing of is correct password entered in game
08:02.58[Ammo]so euhm
08:02.59[Ammo]useless ;)
08:03.05evlIt's like tring to protect Flash files from being tinkered with
08:03.07evlimpossible.
08:03.09Mikmaand the password being crypted to *something* in .lua
08:03.14[Ammo]yeah
08:03.17evlThat post about RDX
08:03.22evlThey are really begging for a slap
08:03.27Mikmalike:
08:03.31MoonWolfany form of encryption in a readable script is futule
08:03.34Mikma~hex password
08:03.34purlpassword is 70 61 73 73 77 6F 72 64
08:03.35MoonWolfthe key is right there to read.
08:03.47Mikmapassword = "70 61 73 73 77 6F 72 64"
08:04.00evlExactly
08:04.04evlYou can only obfuscate
08:04.17evlInfact, it's the same with any client software
08:04.30krkai don't really see the problem with owning your own addons
08:04.35evlAnyway, I give RDX 30 days
08:04.45Mikmaand then use some hex -> 'decrypter' to get the correct password
08:05.07evlIf Blizzard even gets a hint that they have made any sort of profit related to their derivative works you can bet a suit is coming
08:05.08krkajust because you use functions with the same name as blizzard does, doesn't give blizzard any rights to the things i make
08:05.16Mikmathe whole idea what i'm thinking of is to use non-changeable texts in addons with hex :D
08:05.17krkaa suit based on what exactly?
08:05.30evlkrka: but if your functions even do something simple as ShowMerchantCursor() you are using their product
08:05.32evlWhich they own.
08:05.45evlso RDX doesn't use the Blizzard API?
08:05.49Mikmaag has the hex to letter convert in his addon etc. and i'm thinknig is there a way to print the output of hexed strings
08:05.50evlOf course it does.
08:05.52evlWho owns the API?
08:05.53evlBlizzard.
08:05.58krkayou are not distributing blizzards products
08:06.19krkalet's say i make the following lua file:
08:06.34krkamyframe:AddMessage(GetTime())
08:06.38krkavery small and simple
08:06.47krkaam i using blizzard api?
08:06.55evlThe minute you do you are in violation
08:07.01krkahow can you tell?
08:07.09evlDoesn't matter if I can tell or not
08:07.11Mikmahmm
08:07.16krkasomeone must be able to tell
08:07.23evlPatents and licenses are based on this very concept
08:07.24Mikmaain't Blizzard api the one only available to blizzard?
08:07.33MoonWolfIf I write a custom expansion for blizzard , i could argue that a. i do not sel blizzard stuff and b. i could write my own game to fit this extension. does the same argument aply now ?
08:07.44evlIt doesn't matter
08:07.47evlYou're all doing the same thing
08:07.59evlUsing existing Blizzard material in one way or another
08:08.00krkaMoonWolf: as long as you're not distributing actual blizz content / code you're fine
08:08.05krkaor using their trademarks / et.c.
08:08.09Mikmais this envolving into a fight or interesting conversation?
08:08.15krkawasn't there a non-blizzard diablo exp?
08:08.26gnorlishyes
08:08.27MoonWolfsomehow i think my expansion would not ever make the stores.
08:08.29gnorlishi believe there was
08:08.33evlYou cannot make any profit of something that bases itself on the concept or implementation of Blizzard copyrighted material
08:08.37evlThere's no buts
08:08.50MoonWolfby sierra
08:08.52MoonWolfhellfire
08:08.59MikmaDiablo1 expansion
08:09.04ckknightevl, due to the nature of copyright law and the Berne convention, Blizzard does not in fact own the software which authors create, even if they use Blizzard's API.
08:09.07krkaok, what if i made my product work stand alone as well?
08:09.21evlthen you have to pay licenses
08:09.28krkagood real world example: For All Indents And purposes
08:09.35krkait works standalone too
08:09.38evlRDX is a good example
08:09.49ckknightso, even if it were in the EULA, it wouldn't hold up in court.
08:09.51evlThey are making money of blizzards product
08:09.58evlHow they do it Blizzard doesn't care, it's their money
08:10.35evlckknight: right, and since when did what holds up in court matter a flying fuck in the RealWorld
08:10.46HealthI don't see Blizzard doing anything about RDX - I'm very sure they're aware of it.
08:11.20krkacourts _are_ in the realworld
08:11.29Industrialorly
08:11.32evland they are in favor of the person with the most money = power
08:11.35ckknightevl, have you even read any papers on IP law?
08:11.36evllet's not get naive here :)
08:11.39Mikma<1109> <evl> They are making money of blizzards product
08:11.46Mikmathat's a good one
08:11.49evlI gotta go, make some money.
08:11.52krkawhat if i write a strategy guide for WoW and sell it?
08:11.54krkais that illegal?
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08:12.04evlyou have to pay a license, i'm sure they've covered that
08:12.09ckknightkrka, hehe, not at all.
08:12.40Mikmai think you would have to play the license to use World of Warcraft name if you publish it and sell it with that name
08:13.20krkayou could avoid using the name
08:13.21Mikmabut like people said, with RDX people are paying for the membership of the forums, not the addon
08:13.31Industrialwhy cant you use thw words "World of Warcraft" ?
08:13.54MikmaIndustrial: propably registered to Blizz
08:14.06krkaso, is this illegal? http://www.multiplayerstrategies.com/wow/World_of_Warcraft_Strategy_Guide.cfm
08:14.07Mikmathat means all things that uses the name for sell has to pay lisense
08:14.08Industrialadd an (R) ?
08:14.31oxmanum
08:14.44oxmanif I modify an external lib in an addon i can submit the addon and the lib is update too ?
08:16.56Mikmahttp://www.blizzard.com/support/images/products/title_wow.gif
08:16.59Mikmacheck it out
08:17.02Mikmathere's an (R) there
08:17.48oxmanhow i customize the validation error message in consoleoptions ?
08:21.02krkahm, i'll have to make a simple addon and start selling it and stuff
08:21.05krkasee what happens
08:22.26HealthHeh
08:22.30HealthI'll back you!
08:22.40HealthMake AutoTravel into WhereAmI!?
08:22.49Healthoptimised traveling paths!
08:23.02HealthVery popular in Asheron's Call.
08:24.24krkamaybe!
08:24.26evl"<krka> you could avoid using the name", how can you avoid using the World of Warcraft name in a strategy guide about the name :)=
08:24.38krka"wow strat guide"
08:24.39evlIt's like "Now you should go to Iornforge"
08:25.06krkaironforge is probably fine to say
08:25.48MikmaPatch 1.13
08:25.49MikmaDetails coming soon...
08:26.08evlI don't see any twisting of words, places or people working
08:26.18evlYou'd have to include pictures, maps, item names
08:26.36evlAnd besides, they probably only give out licenses to a select set of publishers like Bradygames, Gameguides etc.
08:27.14CodayusMikma: Hmm?
08:27.29MikmaCodayus: yeah ^^
08:30.44HealthWhat about usable servers?
08:30.51HealthEU servers are fucked...
08:31.20HealthAnd that's not just the regular whining.. it's unplayable.. people gets disconnected every few minutres durign raids..
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08:36.21CodayusHmm, all I want to know is priest talents in BC.  :-)
08:37.40nevcairielDont we all ? :)
08:37.44oxmanChampion spells
08:37.46oxman:')))
08:38.35CodayusAlmost plausible rumors here (I don't believe it though, if for no other reason than I wish they were true - so they can't be).  :-)
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08:38.38Codayushttp://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?pid=194624#p194624
08:38.40CIA-1103oxman * r10182 10oRA2/ (Leader/MainTank.lua Optional/MainTank.lua):
08:38.40CIA-11oRA 2: MainTank
08:38.40CIA-11* fix bug with Set Tank when you write "name" instead of "num name"
08:38.40CIA-11* add inverse healthbar option
08:38.41CIA-11* add deficit health option
08:39.25Codayusoxman: Ah, that's nifty.
08:39.37oxman;)
08:40.38oxmanimpossible quiet contemplation
08:40.43oxmanbecause its awesome
08:41.06oxmanwith only 300 spirit you can have 45 MP5
08:41.08oxmanawesome
08:41.12oxmanit cant be possible
08:41.21nevcairielnerf priests!
08:41.22nevcairiel:)
08:41.33Codayus*nod*
08:41.51oxmanah ah I love moral authority :')
08:41.56oxmanwith dazing 6 sec
08:42.01oxmanlike spells shadows ;)
08:42.08CodayusGood ideas though.
08:42.20CodayusPriests *need* some "cool" spells.
08:42.22oxmanpacify awesome :D
08:42.27CodayusThey don't even have to be GOOD.
08:42.45CodayusJust...something to make spending talent points at all seem worthwhile.  :-)
08:42.57CodayusIf your a raiding priest.
08:43.39oxmanah ah rapture :DDD
08:43.47oxmanbut random spell :|
08:43.50nevcairielI like the rumored druid talents .. but cant wait for the real official version :)
08:44.05CodayusRapture *should* be added, no matter how fake those are.
08:44.12CodayusOr ANYTHING to make lightwell more than a joke.
08:44.13oxmanwoot !
08:44.15oxmanimpossible
08:44.17oxmansteely resolve
08:44.19oxmanis impossible
08:44.29oxmanincrease 30% of cristal strik for spells
08:44.30oxman:D
08:44.32CodayusWell, wounded appears to me < 20% health
08:44.35vhaarrYes, it is impossible, because they are fake.
08:44.39oxmanyep :p
08:44.43Codayusvhaarr: I know
08:44.46nevcairielyes, wounded is below 20
08:44.52oxmanthis spell and   15% of esprit in MP5 is impossible
08:44.53oxman:)
08:44.55CodayusBut, without REAL talents trees, I look at fake ones.
08:45.08nevcairieldruids have a talent for that as well, all heals are free on wounded targets
08:45.40oxmanah ah
08:45.55oxman"give 100% chance to become invisible while your are channeling your mind control and mind vision spells"
08:45.56oxman:D
08:46.08nevcairielhaha
08:46.39CodayusThat'd be funny.  Don't see it happening, but I don't think it'd be too powerful.
08:46.45oxmanyep funny
08:46.51CodayusJust...amsuing.
08:46.52oxmansomething like that will be very nice
08:46.57oxmanand not too powerful :)
08:47.10oxmanbut it need lots of point :|
08:48.00CodayusDruid rumors say they're getting a talent that gives them 10% of int as mp5s
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08:48.14nevcairielthat would rock.
08:48.34CodayusAnd *that* I've seen a screenshot of, which doesn't mean it's not fake, but means the faker at least bothered to use photoshop.  :-D
08:48.58nevcairielive only seen a talent which increases overall mana regen by 30%
08:49.05Codayushttp://img78.imageshack.us/my.php?image=balancealphev9.jpg
08:49.11nevcairieli think we get to the prieses level with that
08:49.30nevcairielbah sucks, in balance tree
08:49.31nevcairiel:(
08:49.36Codayus(Again - I assume that screenshot is fake.  Posted just because I'm bored, not because I think I have UBER SECRET INFO.)
08:49.49CodayusLook at summon treant.
08:49.59nevcairieli hope its fake, would hate such a great spell in balance :p
08:50.06CodayusIt's like...what moonwell should have been, but never will be.
08:50.16nevcairielDruids, the better priests :)
08:50.38nevcairielnow we just need a flashheal kinda thing
08:51.30kergothi love that the aep addon works with quickcompare
08:53.10Codayushttp://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feralalphatalentswb1ar8.jpg
08:53.46nevcairielive seen the feral stuff
08:53.57nevcairielnice stuff in there, wondering whats true
08:54.17nevcairielaltho, ive never been that feral in heart ;)
08:54.20evlwiki dead? :(
08:55.55nevcairielDoes anyone know a simple addon which "enlarged" my tradeskill window ? Ive used Advanced Trade Skill Window .. but its no longer maintained and bugged since 1.12
08:56.10evlit's not that bugged
08:56.19evlyou only need to select what you want to craft twice afaik
08:56.39nevcairielit only adds new items to the list when i reloadui .. thats anoying :p
08:56.53nevcairielor updates their difficulty coloring
08:58.03Codayushttp://wow.gamemeca.com/special/section/html_section/wow/focus/info_board/view.html?subcode=c0583&page=1&search_kind=&search_text=&id=4748&gid=4673&head=
08:58.12CodayusSame as the last two links I posted
08:58.22CodayusJust has resto mixed in.
08:58.49nevcairieli think all three screens where on worldofraids.net
08:58.54Codayusyeah
08:58.59CodayusBut theresto one is broken there
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08:59.37nevcairielwell, ive seen like 3 different resto screens till now ..
08:59.44Codayusyeah
08:59.45nevcairielblizz should really get their page going there .)
09:00.00CodayusAnd afaik, the druid ones aren't in the alpha yet
09:00.02Codayusso...
09:00.08nevcairieli only hope "enervate" is true ;)
09:00.09Codayusthere's nowhere for a leak to come from
09:00.12Codayushence, fake I fear.
09:00.40nevcairieland cyclone sounded great as well, but who knows
09:01.36nevcairielbut like priests and hunters, basicly no way they could get leaked
09:02.09CodayusYeah
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09:02.34CodayusMy main is a priest...and...damn, I want to know what we're getting.
09:02.52evlRough guess: Healing, healing, healing
09:02.56CodayusYeah
09:03.00evlAnd maybe some more healing
09:03.02nevcairielhehe
09:03.03evlAnd probably even more buffs
09:03.09CodayusWell, my primary alt is a warrior, and they made out okay.
09:03.11nevcairielwith more need for candles :p
09:03.20evlI have 6 level 60 rogues
09:03.26nevcairiellol
09:03.28evlYou can pretty much say I'm addicted to stabbing people in the facer
09:03.36evlI found a new fun spot now
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09:03.40Solehai
09:03.46evlin AV, just after the Icewing bunker
09:03.47CodayusAnd rogues did...hmm, not sure.  Some FUN toys, but I wonder how many are areally viable.
09:03.51evlPeople come over the hill with 10% hp
09:03.58nevcairieli only managed to get my druid to 60, dont have the motivation to get an alt that high
09:04.16CodayusI rolled a paladin at launch.  ZOMG HOLY WARRIOR!
09:04.21CodayusGot to lvl 30...zomg, no DPS.
09:04.30CodayusRerolled a rogue.  ZOMG BACKSTAB.
09:04.37nevcairieli learned to live with no dps at all .)
09:04.41CodayusGot to lvl 60...zomg, nobody needs a rogue.  /wrists
09:04.47Soleuhm
09:04.54SoleI did fine as a rogue at end game
09:04.59CodayusRerolled a priest.  ZOMG HEAL.  :-)
09:05.18CodayusAh, well, my server was in the midst of a massive rogue overpop for some reason at the time.
09:05.18Solebut I did start playing on launch day so I guess I was on even ground into getting into a guild :)
09:05.25Soleheh
09:05.27CodayusAnd I was *not* into endgame raiding at the time.
09:05.28evlWell in some realms
09:05.41evlthere are as many undead rogues as there are nightelves in TOTAL
09:05.47CodayusSo....my main metric was...how long does it take spamming LFG in IF to find a baron raid?
09:05.56nevcairielwe had an overpop of palys some time back, now its hard to find a decent one :p
09:05.57evlGet friends.
09:05.58Solewe rejected people on a daily basis >_<  I kinda felt bad for them
09:06.03CodayusAfter a few hours of seeing "lf1m - priest, full on rogues"...I rerolled.
09:06.17CodayusOr days...
09:06.19CodayusWhatever.
09:06.24kergothpfft, undead.  i like my troll rogue, berserk is my friend in raids
09:06.41Soleheh raiding was fun but it got dull at times or stressful for no reason
09:06.52CodayusI'm enjoying raiding at the moment...
09:06.54nevcairieli never had that problem, tho some pugs still wont accept a aq40/naxx-resto-druid as only healer in strat :P
09:06.55Solealthough server first nef kill was definetly a highlight for me ^_^
09:07.05evlI regred being rogue in raids
09:07.11evlit's fucking World of Waitcraft
09:07.12Solebeing a rogue is fun on raids
09:07.19evlnot when you wipe
09:07.22Solethats true
09:07.23evlI need a small television or something
09:07.29kergothheh, thats true
09:07.30evltakes 20 mins to get going again
09:07.31Solethat was the annoying part of raiding
09:07.33CIA-1103mikma * r10183 10ChatJustify/ChatJustify.toc: ChatJustify: .toc -> .zip
09:07.37kergothrogues are only slightly less squishy than casters
09:07.43Soleyep
09:07.49evlProblem with that is itemization
09:07.57Solethats why I play like a rogue in BGs
09:07.58evlIf I meet a warrior with some fancy 2hander
09:08.01evlI last a maxium of one crit
09:08.04SoleI kill someone and then GTFO before anyone notices me
09:08.05evland I have 4k hp
09:08.17Soleyea im with you there
09:08.18CodayusI just recently got a warrior to 60...kind of enjoying her on raids. A lot fewer responsibilites...
09:08.35CodayusCompared to my priest.
09:08.35evlSole: I usually defend on the same spot as alliance, just below the hill after Icewing bunker, my record is 42-3 after a win :D
09:08.36CIA-1103coalado * r10184 10IIK_FeignTrap/core.lua: - feature: /feignTrap dismount toggles dismount on casting a spell,looting,taxi,etc.
09:08.52phybermorning. :)
09:08.58evlJust oneshot all the people with low hp who are "just gonna ride over to Stormpike and then heal"
09:09.04evlGuess not buddy, *FACESTAB*
09:09.08nevcairielhaha
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09:09.25SoleI have 4.4k hp and Im wearing bloodfang + other epics and this warrior with ashkandi and AQ40 loot just went "LOL OWNT" after my stunlock  =[
09:09.34Soleguess I shouldnt have fucked up my stunlock but thats beside the point
09:09.41evlI know, I don't have problems with warriors owning me
09:09.48evlit's just that there is no way to beat them with the kind of weapons they have
09:09.51Solehe chopped me in half in a matter of seconds
09:10.08Soledo you have problems with locks?
09:10.12evltry stunlock vs prot specced
09:10.14evlit's just a waste of time
09:10.17Solefor some reason I cant beat a good lock
09:10.19Soleyea
09:10.24evlSure but less after patch
09:10.33evlgarotte -> rupture -> vanish -> stuns ahoy
09:10.36Solewe had a really good prot warrior in my guild...he was the one doing the stunlocking
09:10.45Solehmm
09:10.52nevcairielnobody can easily defeat a good warlock
09:10.55Solenever really use garotte...might start
09:11.12evlIt's a better opener vs most casters I feel
09:11.18evlthey get some delays etc.
09:11.20Solewell duels are a bitch for rogues really
09:11.26evlduels aren't meant for rogues
09:11.29Soleyep
09:11.37Soleoh in BG pvp I can down a warlock
09:11.43evlI hear a lot of whine about how I only go for low hp cloth
09:11.44Solepremed ambush evis..lol
09:11.45evlwtf? that's ROGUE
09:11.51Soleyea
09:12.01Arrowmasteri was on my orc warlock dueling my friends undead rogue once and he was bitching about stun resists and i was bitching about stuns and i got him to aggre to a duel with no stuns.... he 3 shoted me with ambush-gouge-evis
09:12.10evlamazing how you can really screw up an AV rush with some cleaning up
09:12.31Solearrowmaster: depends on gear :)
09:12.45evlSure, I've got blue crap now but I haven't played this rogue alot
09:12.49evlrupture is the new pink though
09:12.54Solehehe yea
09:12.55evlAmazing damage with serrated.
09:13.02Solewhats your build?
09:13.15Solei have a really unique build :P
09:13.25evlRight now it's the olden goldie 31/8/12 with 2 elusive 3 mod, kindey and remorse
09:13.37evlI met a T2 rogue here the other day, he opened with cheap, hemo, rupture and just ran away
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09:13.48evl192 damage each tich for 22 secs
09:13.51evlouch.
09:13.53Soleheh
09:13.57Solemy buddy does 202
09:14.02evlsick.
09:14.03Solebut he has like 1150 unbuffed ap
09:14.05evlbut they forget you can eat
09:14.10evlI laugh at priests in BG
09:14.14Solehehe
09:14.15evli just have minor speed on boots, start running
09:14.21Solehttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=yhg0RxZZyMcs0GRqo  << my build
09:14.24evland out of combat just sit down and have a snack
09:14.35Soleif you have a good hemo wep + a good dagger  my build is fun ^_^
09:14.48Solepriests arent too bad
09:14.51evlexpose armor? :P
09:14.54Soleshadow priests hurt when they unload
09:14.57Soleye
09:14.58Soleits pro
09:15.06evlslice and dice is better imho
09:15.10vhaarrSole! Hostel! \o/
09:15.10SoleI dont raid
09:15.15evlThen why not remorseless
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09:15.32SoleI stopped raiding after my guild imploded....quit the game... cbf the new reformed guild
09:15.36evlno improved sap?! :(
09:16.19Solenop
09:16.28Soledont miss it that much
09:16.38SoleI guess you can rotate  heightened senses into imp sap
09:16.42Solei kinda like HS though
09:16.54Soleanyway this build is pretty damn fun in BGs
09:17.03evlMoD is a must
09:17.09Solepremed ambush evis and most people get hurt
09:17.11evl3 points is enough imho
09:17.15Sole4/5 mod
09:17.16evl4 is a bit wastey
09:17.24Soletrue
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09:17.36evl3 gives you about 5 yards clearing when they come towards you
09:17.53Solewell I play from new zealand on the us servers
09:18.04Soleit kinda sucks being on 300-500 ping ;(
09:18.22Soleso the 4 helps a tiny tiny bit
09:18.37evlouch :(
09:18.45evli whine if I have 45ms
09:18.57evlscandinavia ping heaven ftw :D
09:19.22Sole:(
09:19.24nevcairielmy average is ~150
09:19.28nevcairielplayable..
09:19.34SoleI seriously wish they would make an oceanic server...thats in oceania
09:19.36Solewtf
09:19.50SoleI get 70-150 ping to australian hosts
09:20.05evlProbably possible if there's a large enough market and a good provider deal
09:20.06ckknightI'd play that, the timezone would actually probably be right for me
09:20.21evlyou just don't host wow like it was wordpress ya know :)
09:20.23Soleconsidering the game was first released in the US, Australia and NZ
09:20.24ckknightHawaii here, Australia is 3 hours off from me
09:20.30nevcairielatleast we dont have any timezone problems in EU .. :)
09:20.30Sole2 of those countries are oceanic
09:21.03nevcairieli bet the 2 countries are 20% of the players. max. :)
09:21.15Soleyoud be surprised
09:21.26Solewe're special kay?
09:21.34nevcairielhehe
09:22.07Soleso steve irwin dead :(
09:22.09Soleim so sad
09:22.17Solewell not so sad but the guy was cool
09:28.53oxman40mb of memory usage :||
09:29.55oxmanhow I can know which addon use lots of memory ?
09:30.00Mikmapeople are saying that Dreamlayout don't work with warriors
09:31.28Soleoxman: find the addons that have the prefix  Discord
09:31.30Sole<PROTECTED>
09:31.31mjc_oxman: warmup
09:31.34Sole~lozareth
09:31.45purlA man who stole your FPS and Memory aka The Boogyman of http://www.discordmods.com/ - "I got mem so why not use it"
09:31.45mjc_Sole: haaha
09:31.46oxmani've no discord addon
09:31.46oxmani hate this heavy addon
09:31.47oxman:p
09:32.10Solewhat amazes me is people use discord addons :(
09:32.33evlweee, i get +1gb today
09:35.29oxmangrmbl
09:35.36oxmanauthor of IsCasting don't like Ace
09:35.49oxmanso he'll not use Ace for IsCasting
09:36.31[Ammo]write your own lib :p
09:36.55ckknightoxman, isn't the author AL?
09:36.56oxmani will do that only to know the target of a spell
09:37.07oxmanyep its AnduinLothar
09:37.13Solehmm
09:37.17Solewhy wouldnt you like Ace?
09:37.22oxmanbut actually IsCasting have a bug, and i want see if He cant fix it
09:37.29oxmanits not me, its AnduinLothar
09:37.37Soleyea i understand
09:37.46Solebut does he have a legitimate reason for not liking ace?
09:37.52oxmani'm not a fan of ace among other reasons"
09:37.56Soleother than it handles all the annoying shit
09:37.57ckknightyea
09:38.09ckknightAce's existence makes his penis smaller
09:38.15Solelawl
09:38.31oxmanckknight i think like you ;)
09:38.32Mikmaok a question
09:38.37ckknightshoot
09:38.48Mikmacan i hook hooks of other addon in ANOTHER addon
09:38.50Mikmameaning:
09:38.56Mikmafunction Bartender:UPDATE_BONUS_ACTIONBAR()
09:38.58ckknightoxman, I've helped AL with telepathy and such
09:39.03ckknightMikma, yes, you could.
09:39.04Mikmaor, replace that one
09:39.06ckknightit'd be hackish.
09:39.09Mikmayeah
09:39.11ckknightbut it'd work
09:39.22Mikmai need a better idea on how to overwrite that function in another addon
09:39.56Healthand addon that you haven't written?
09:40.30Mikmahmm oh wait
09:40.38Mikmai haven't hooked that one, only registered
09:42.04Solehmm so Ive got an idea, how bout a rewrite of Color Combo Points
09:42.16Soleone thats not halfassed
09:42.27oxmanum 10mb of transcriptor :D
09:42.33oxmani think its why my UI take 40mb
09:42.34oxman;p
09:42.37ckknightI'm gonna make AceComm better now.
09:42.40Solelol
09:42.49Mikmaagain?
09:42.53phyberMy UI always takes 40MB, and it doesn't matter what I do it seems.
09:43.06Soleanyway CCP: I was thinking of adding a function to make the 4th and 5th combo points have a flash around them
09:43.09ckknightthis is what I do. I make libraries better
09:43.12ckknightor make more libraries
09:43.13Solewould be rather simple
09:43.25Soleyou could fast ck
09:43.33Solecode*
09:43.44ckknightin the end, everybody wins and my penis grows a little bigger. (At least to the point where I'm much bigger than AL)
09:43.56Solehaha
09:44.01Mikma:D
09:44.10ckknightbasically, I'm going to write a way to do easy dispatching of receiving messages.
09:44.19oxmanwoot !??
09:44.21oxmanwhat's that !
09:44.35oxman"the addon blabla not longuer available, do you want erase config ?"
09:44.45Mikmaoxman: don't use old addons
09:44.53oxman23.7 mb ;D
09:45.00oxmanMikma ?
09:45.18ckknightbasically, instead of having messages receive to a function, I'm going to allow it to receive to a table, and then traverse the keys and go to inner functions
09:45.24ckknightah, it'll make sense when you see it.
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09:45.37Solealmost makes sense now...almost
09:46.56ckknightbasically, say I send a "PING" message
09:47.09ckknightI could just have it call self.CommHandlers.PING()
09:47.13ckknightsorta.
09:47.21Soleso AL uses Sea...now we've found the reason he doesnt like Ace...hes from the bloat boat Cosmos
09:47.38ckknightAL is a Cosmos dev.
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09:47.51Soleahh there you go
09:47.53ckknightI've insulted him and point out his faults many a good time.
09:48.12ckknightwell, I mostly insult his work, not him personally
09:48.19SoleCosmos makes me cringe
09:48.41mjc_Sole: you like it a lot more than I do then
09:48.48Solehaha
09:48.57mjc_Sole: cosmos makes me take a fork and draw it near my eye until I realize that there is hope
09:49.19Solei look at some of the code and I can see better solutions already
09:49.51mjc_cosmos and CT are the two worst solutions
09:49.53mjc_:D
09:50.03SoleI  *used* to like CT
09:50.09Cheadsabout that La vendetta.. is that bad code too?
09:50.13mjc_discord is up there too
09:50.16Solebut now its wtfBloat too
09:50.28Soledunno what LaVendetta is
09:50.55mjc_Sole: it's always been wtfbloat.
09:51.05mjc_lately it's more like wtftruck
09:51.11Solelol
09:51.14Solethats true
09:51.15CheadsLa Vendetta is just like BigWigs.. just with a nice gui thing
09:51.27[Ammo]it's nothing like bigwigs
09:51.28Solewell BigWigs ftw...so yea
09:51.29mjc_bigwigs has a nice gui
09:51.40Mikmabigwigs nice gui = <3
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09:52.00Cheadswell... it's a bosswarn thing with local timer bars... with sync too....
09:52.09[Ammo]it's still nothing like bigwigs
09:52.20[Ammo]codewise
09:52.32Cheads.. I ment the functionality
09:52.33MikmaBW = win
09:52.40[Ammo]besides, them and MR Naxx Bosmods are having a mudslinging contest
09:52.50[Ammo]both claim the other stole the 'put skull icon on bomb' etc
09:52.57Mikmariiiight
09:53.01[Ammo]when they both took it blatantly from BigWigs :)
09:53.26Cheadsour guild leaders whats all to use la vendetta .. so  :/
09:53.57CheadsI really like bigwigs
09:53.57[Ammo]then you're in tough luck
09:54.10[Ammo]but bigwigs is definately more friendly on your memory etc than la vendetta
09:54.17Soleuhh
09:54.20SoleI look at la vendetta
09:54.25Soleand the gui sucks donkey nuts
09:54.37Solewtf copy the friends frame
09:54.44Cheadsonly tried it in bwl.. and la vendetta didn't seem to bad on the memory.. had expected much worse
09:55.17mjc_hm the cvs commit of the bomb targets was Kebinusan's commit? from months ago?
09:55.23[Ammo]yeah
09:55.26[Ammo]it's months ago
09:55.34mjc_yeah, like 1.11 release day
09:55.38oxmanaccording to AL, and me, it's impossible to know the target of a spell
09:55.41oxmanyou can only guess
09:55.49Cheadsso now I have both bigwigs and lavendetta running hehe
09:55.58oxmanstupid API, we need something for that
09:56.01Solespam much?
09:56.43oxmanI live any guild that impose me an addon not necessary
09:56.47Mikmammmm
09:56.51Mikmathis is interesting
09:56.54phyberCheads: you should just make a small mod that reports a LV version back to the raid leader.  If that's how it cehcks for you running it.
09:56.56oxmanYou don't need to use the same bossmod like other guild member
09:57.05oxmanIf you've a bossmod and it work its ok
09:57.06Mikmai was able to import my addon to svn but now i can't commit anything from it
09:57.12oxmanyour guild master are stupid
09:57.12Cheadsphyber wish I could =)
09:57.14Mikmawhat am i missing? :P
09:57.29[Ammo]cheads: point uot to your guild master that BigWigs has a sapphiron module that was used to kill Sapphiron :)
09:57.30oxmando an import again Mikma
09:57.52Cheads[Ammo] hehe that's rather irrelevant we are only at Frankriss =)
09:58.03phyberMikma: you need to do a checkout.  when you import, the .svn directories and other crap isn't created.  (unless I'm missing some switch when I import)
09:58.06[Ammo]ohwell
09:58.11[Ammo]can't convert them all :)
09:58.58Cheadsoxman one of the nice features og bigwigs (and la vendetta) is the nice sync'ing
09:58.59oxmanbut not usefull 90% of time
09:59.24Cheadsas a ranged dps I very often lack bars.. because of the range.. so yes it's very usefull for me
09:59.31Solewhos killed Sapphiron?
09:59.35Sole<<not keeping up
09:59.37CheadsDnT
09:59.39phyberDnT?
09:59.40Mikmaoxman: didn't work
09:59.41Solealready?
09:59.43Mikmaphyber: didn't work :)
09:59.49Soledidnt they just kill 4 hoursemen?
10:00.03Cheads[Ammo] but yeah my quest for converting them all to bigwigs is still on =)
10:00.14Mikmai propably need to delete the files from my end
10:00.21Mikmathen checkout and commit the changes
10:00.28[Ammo]there's 6 guilds or so that have kille dhorsemen
10:00.28oxmanSCL break BigWigs ?
10:00.31[Ammo]no oxman
10:00.35phyberhmm, DnT have a Sapphiron Mini-Kill movie on their site now.
10:01.16steinoRisen, Nihilium and DnT has all killed sapp :o
10:01.18CheadsI wonder how long it will take them to kill kel'thuzad (when he doesn't run away hehe)
10:01.42CIA-1103mikma * r10185 10Bartender2_Dreamlayout/Mockup.lua: Bartender2 Dreamlayout: warrior fix
10:02.07Cheads[Ammo] make sync'ing between bigwigs and la vendetta compatible ;O)
10:02.17[Ammo]Cheads: no thanks
10:02.19Cheadshehe
10:02.34[Ammo]why would I bend to support inferior junk
10:03.58Cheadscause then you can get the users to convert to bigwigs =)
10:04.07[Ammo]no because they have no need to convert
10:04.11Cheads.. and yeah im not serious
10:04.24[Ammo]but like Tekkub says: we're not here to convert the world to bigwigs
10:04.45Mikmalies!
10:04.47[Ammo]we're just here to make BigWigs the best around
10:05.11Mikmawell if we can make others unhappy with others, why not do it? :D
10:05.30Cheadsyeah, but it would have been nice (for me) to be able to use bigwigs =)
10:06.52XLVIIis there an addon that allows you define a ui size?
10:06.52XLVIIlike, /scale .85
10:06.53XLVIIor something?
10:06.53Cheads[Ammo] do you have some nice punch lines I can use to convert my guild leaders? =)
10:06.59AndaliaWhat BigWigs still needs imo are times which raidleaders could set. It could be used to show raid-pause etc.
10:07.07oxmanyou can make a gateway Cheads
10:07.12[Ammo]Andalia ?
10:07.17oxmantranslate sync from/to vendetta to bigwigs
10:07.36Cheadsim not capable
10:07.43[Ammo]Cheads: it's the most complete boss mod around
10:07.45oxmanbe capable
10:07.45oxman;p
10:07.51XLVIIis there an addon that allows you define a ui size? (eg. /scale .85)
10:08.04Andalia[Ammo]: A plugin to set the name and the time for a custom bar and broadcast it.
10:08.16[Ammo]Cheads: without any dependancies, low memory, only the boss that you're fighting has the module enabled
10:08.26ckknightfor the ... stuff
10:08.38[Ammo]Andalia: create it yourself, it's not within the scope of bigwigs
10:08.47[Ammo]bigwigs = boss modules and stuff related to that
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10:08.50[Ammo]it's not a raid management system
10:09.00Andalia[Ammo]: Ok :)
10:09.22mjc_ckknight: what's new in 5.1?
10:09.27ckknightlots.
10:09.28[Ammo]and we're pretty damn strict on that
10:09.35[Ammo]yes it's easy to get bigwigs to display timerbars etc
10:09.43[Ammo]but that's only because I made candybar
10:09.50[Ammo]anyone can easily use candybar
10:10.18oxmanhum Satura is he or she ?
10:10.18oxman:)
10:10.19mjc_modules, incremental gc, varargs, mod and length, metatbles, and full reentrant... hmm
10:10.20mjc_yes
10:10.37mjc_sexy
10:10.41ckknightyep
10:10.51ckknightthough we probably won't get modules
10:10.57oxmanhum Satura is he or she ?
10:10.59oxman:p
10:11.05mjc_ckknight: :(
10:11.43mjc_incremental gc sounds sexy
10:12.04MikmaFetching external item into 'Detox/libs/SpellCache-1.0'
10:12.04MikmaFetching external item into 'Detox/libs/SpellCachesvn: REPORT request failed on '/root/!svn/vcc/default'
10:12.07Mikmasvn: Cannot replace a directory from within
10:12.10Mikmawhee!
10:12.11oxmanhum Satura is he or she ?
10:12.13Mikmaalways fucks up on that one
10:12.31mjc_Mikma: delete detox and re-check out
10:12.53Cheads[Ammo]  1. Bigwigs - most complete boss mod.  2. BW is made to use a little memory and cpu time during raid.... 3. ?
10:13.16nevcairielIts Ace2
10:13.17nevcairiel:)
10:13.23Cheads3. BigWigs updated more regularly
10:13.32Cheadsthey have no idea what ace is.. so =)
10:14.13mjc_4. no dependencies required
10:14.23mjc_5. it's modular, so it shares code with other ace2 mods
10:14.46mjc_6.  it's more feature complete than other mods
10:14.48Cheadsvendetta has no dependencies either
10:15.05mjc_but it doesn't share any code,does it?
10:15.16oxman[Ammo] i want point something
10:15.20Cheadsand the guild officers dont know about ace etc.. so rather sure they dont care =)
10:15.24mjc_7. easy to extend BW using transcriptor
10:15.42oxmanwhy in bw modules you use "Battleguard Sartura gains Whirldwind" instead of boss.." gains Whirldwind"
10:15.52[Ammo]because I felt like it
10:15.57mjc_I've started using transcriptor on all boss fights so its easy to submit bug reports
10:16.11oxmanbut for other locales, like fr, de, etc
10:16.16oxmanwe need use boss..
10:16.19oxmanis more nice
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10:16.56mjc_oxman: makes sense to me to use the boss' name, there might be more than one boss
10:17.30oxmanin my example i use boss name too
10:17.58mjc_then I don't understand your example
10:18.09[Ammo]he means to use the 'boss' local variable
10:18.11oxmanboss is the value from babblebloss
10:18.13mjc_ah
10:18.20mjc_well then yes, that makes sense
10:18.27oxmanso we don't need to update the modules if the boss name is changed
10:18.37oxmanyou only change in the lib
10:18.45oxmanand I think its nice like that
10:18.53[Ammo]oxman: the main reason it's like that is because we had enough trouble to get the whirlwind thing working sycn'd et all
10:18.57oxmanbecause put the boss name in "hard" its less dynamic
10:19.15oxmanthen ? why don't use boss value is better ?
10:19.28Solehey ammo
10:19.42Solethe new candybar texture is sexy
10:20.22[Ammo]yeah, it's Bant's texture
10:20.49mjc_what's the syntax for string concat? "foo" . bar . "baz" ?
10:20.59[Ammo]"foo" .. bar .. "baz"
10:21.03mjc_k
10:21.38phyberare there any functions for copying text to the clipboard in wow, or is it a case of display the text somewhere and then copy it.
10:21.52oxmanlots of missing translation for AQ40 :D
10:22.09oxmanits why yesterday bw don't work here ;p
10:22.21kergothmjc_: incremental has huge benefits when it comes to how smooth things are.  less spikes of processing
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10:24.11CIA-1103ckknight * r10186 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: AceComm - added table dispatching on message reception. Should hopefully work.
10:24.48phyberoxman: submit some translations then :)
10:25.10oxmanyep in few minutes
10:25.18oxmani've translate fankriss, sartura, actually i do bugfamily
10:25.22oxmanthen i will commit
10:25.28nevcairielcould someone fix the SpellCache external on Detox ? SpellCache was moved for some reason :/
10:27.33mjc_http://ohdarn.net/sarturaboss.diff
10:27.44mjc_missed one
10:28.46mjc_no, I got it
10:28.58XLVIIis there an addon that allows you define a ui size? (eg. /scale .85)
10:29.12mjc_[ammo]: how's that?
10:29.39[Ammo]don't ask me
10:29.40vhaarrmjc: I call that uneccessary.
10:29.44[Ammo]because I don't care
10:29.47[Ammo]:)
10:29.57vhaarrmjc: don't do that work, there is no gain from it.
10:30.01mjc_vhaarr: I don't think it could hurt
10:30.05[Ammo]it's useless
10:30.09vhaarrI won't commit it for you
10:30.12vhaarryes
10:30.14vhaarrtotally useless
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10:30.44[Ammo]it's not like blizzard will change the name of a boss all of a sudden
10:31.01sbugnnnl, missed another chance to transcript ossirian fight for 'enveloping winds' warning :/
10:31.03nevcairielyou never know .. its blizzard .. :)
10:31.07Shyvait'll only make it load slower..
10:31.49mjc_Shyva: such an incredibly small change, shouldn't have a noticeable effect
10:32.16Shyvano, but what do you gain?
10:32.19mjc_unless lua has a problem with variable scope
10:32.23sbu[Ammo]: uhm - but do such things with localization :/
10:32.33[Ammo]it is localizard
10:32.36[Ammo]localized even
10:32.38[Ammo]sigh
10:32.43ckknightlocalizard!
10:32.46mjc_ahah
10:32.47oxmansbu in which local ?
10:32.47MikmaFetching external item into 'Detox/libs/SpellCache-1.0'
10:32.47Mikmasvn: URL 'http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/SpellCache-1.0' doesn't exist
10:32.49Mikmathere we go
10:32.56Soledo lua created frames remember their position or not? for sure
10:33.09Solebecause it seems like one moment they are..then they arent
10:33.10oxmanwow remember the position
10:33.11oxmannot lua
10:33.11oxman:p
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10:33.17Soleyea I know
10:33.18[Ammo]Sole: they don't
10:33.28[Ammo]Sole: you have to write a save and restore position
10:33.40Soleim leaning towards that
10:33.48Soleto avoid unnecesarry shit
10:33.50CIA-1103oxman * r10187 10BigWigs/AQ40/ (BugFamily.lua Fankriss.lua Sartura.lua Skeram.lua): BigWigs: AQ40 french translations : Fankriss, Sartura, Skeram, BugFamily
10:33.55oxmanenjoy ;)
10:34.01Soleseeing as the anchor position of hostelbar is quite vital to the addon
10:34.05CIA-1103phyber * r10188 10Detox/libs/:
10:34.05CIA-11Detox:
10:34.06CIA-11- Fix the SpellCacheLib path in externals.
10:34.28sbuoxman: deDE - in 1.12.1 the will change "Fankriss" - and in 1.11 the changed Lashlayer
10:34.50oxmanto add french translation
10:34.55oxmani often use ctraboss mod
10:34.55oxman;p
10:34.58sbuah sorry, Emeriss i mean
10:35.21mjc_why not move all those lines into babblelib anyways?
10:35.42oxmangood question :)
10:37.03nevcairielHm
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10:37.17nevcairieli heard that US got patched today ? couldnt find anything on the net tho
10:38.57nevcairielconfirm, deny ? :D
10:39.16mjc_it's tuesday morning
10:39.22mjc_if there is a patch it will occur today
10:41.30Cheads[Ammo] will Bigwigs be updated regularly on wowinterface?
10:41.34nevcairieli wouldve guessed the realms are in maintenance right now at US .. so you could actually download a patch already
10:41.51[Ammo]Cheads: it should be tekkub does so, but the best bet is to download it from http://svn.wowace.com/files/
10:41.59[Ammo]there is always a BigWigs-rxxxx.zip up there
10:42.21[Ammo]newest version = highest number
10:42.34Shyvawould be nice if clad could remove the revision number, so you can just link BigWigs.zip for the latest build :)
10:42.50Solegnite
10:42.52Cheadsyeah. Just the lazy guildes dont want to go find the latest build ;O)
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10:43.36Cheadshmm I can see Clad put ace2 version of Perfectraid on wowinterface
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10:44.23[Ammo]Cheads: ow he did?
10:44.52Cheadsyeah
10:45.00Cheadsdont know if it was on purpose though =)
10:45.08Cheadshttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4673-PerfectRaid.html
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10:46.24Temearlier tonight
10:46.29Temit's already out of date lo
10:46.30Teml
10:47.49[Ammo]I just hope the new perfectraid doesn't still have the silly border around the highlight :)
10:48.56Cheadsbut the ace2 version isn't in trunk yet
10:49.36[Ammo]so?
10:50.45oxmanCurse Guild Recruiting Cross-Realm.
10:50.53oxmanCurse want to be very big.
10:51.16[Ammo]probably not
10:51.20oxmanSome requirement are awesome "3 parts of T3"
10:51.21oxman:D
10:51.27oxman4 parts sorry
10:51.27oxman:p
10:51.35[Ammo]see... they don't recruit everyone
10:51.38nevcairieldamn,i only have 2 :(
10:51.41oxman:p
10:51.44[Ammo]I have 0
10:51.45nevcairielwell i am eu anyway :P
10:51.48Cheadsuhm no Bigwigs in http://svn.wowace.com/files/ ?
10:51.49[Ammo]but I have Perceptors Head!
10:51.51[Ammo]but I have Perceptors Hat
10:51.59LaricI have 2 pieces t2.. doesnt that count ;P
10:52.20oxmanzip in /files/ is do automatically each day ?
10:52.23Shyvagot 6 pieces t2, a shit load of dkp, and then my guild disbands -_-
10:52.31oxmanhow /files/ work ?
10:52.33Laricoxman on each commit
10:52.43oxmanreally ? very fine
10:52.56Laricbut only for trunk mind you
10:53.05nevcairieli spend all my dkp on some aq loot last week, stupid angelistas charm way to expensive :P
10:53.18oxman"for trunk mind you" ?
10:53.18oxman:D
10:53.18Cheadshmm only BigWigs in sandbox
10:53.21Cheadsunder files
10:53.28evlYou gain 1 extra gigabyte of ram from boss at work.
10:53.39evlweeeeeee
10:53.47evlfree from page file, finally :D
10:53.48CIA-1103ammo * r10189 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs: touched for zipping
10:53.51nevcairiel:D
10:53.57oxmanlol
10:53.58[Ammo]wait 5 mins BigWigs should be there again
10:54.04oxmanah ah :D
10:54.08nevcairielthat bigwigs zipping is weird, its always disappearing
10:54.14sbunevcairiel: hm - better get that greater windstome thingie
10:54.44nevcairieltoo late .. and you never get people to help you anyways ^^
10:54.52ShyvaBigWigs-r10189.zip there it is
10:54.53Laricevl you know windows run slower if you turn of pagefile right?
10:55.33sbunevcairiel: we do it usually after aq20 is cleared - takes another 30min and all happy ;o
10:55.34Cheadsnow it's back there =)
10:56.05evlLaric: how can it run slower if I never reach the maximum commit charge.
10:56.20nevcairielwell, until the next good healer drop .. i guess i will have enought dkp again :)
10:56.21DarkImakuniThe reason I think BigWigs is disappearing is that the SVN is purging it, as the zip is over half a meg in size...
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10:56.42[Ammo]it shouldn't be purged
10:56.59sbunevcairiel: hehe ;) im fine with amulet of shifting sands
10:57.21Laricevl: well that is the weird thing about windows.. it conserves a huge buffer in real mem if it doesnt have a page file
10:57.21nevcairieli never got that
10:57.35nevcairieldamn bad luck with rolling
10:57.42evlLaric: but with no page file I can alt-tab out of wow without it taking 20 mins
10:57.54Industrialtakes no time here
10:57.55Industrial:P
10:58.08evltry flying from booty bay to eastern plaguelands and try that
10:58.13Laricen... i have page file and it takes 0.01 secs to alt-tab
10:58.24nevcairielif you have enough RAM windows simply doesnt use the pagefile, but you should still have one
10:58.36evlwhat pagefile should I set then?
10:58.38evlI have 2gb ram
10:58.43Laricauto :P
10:58.44evlslow disk :( 5400 in a lappy
10:58.52Laricit wont use it
10:59.14Laricbut windows feels comfort in having one
10:59.52evlwindows sucks donkey balls
11:00.31evlthanks for the tips :)
11:00.40evlAny other program that checks how much ram you got?
11:00.53evlAnd is there any mentionable WoW tweaks I should enable/read about
11:02.48Laricwow runs faster in windowed maximized than full screen on my lappy... tried it?
11:03.00Cheadssure windows will use the pagefile even if you have 4gb ram...
11:03.01evlnot yet, will try it
11:03.17evlLaric: what vid card you running?
11:03.40Laric6800 go ultra
11:03.55evlsame here :D
11:03.58IndustrialI got a 9700GT
11:03.58evlwhat lappy?
11:04.07evlI'm on a 9300 inspiron
11:04.10Laricdell xps m170
11:04.24IndustrialI have a dell inspiron 8600 - but im on my pc now
11:05.41Industrialbbl
11:06.30Laricbbl
11:12.20DarkImakuniCan some kind people post screens of oSkin in action? I'm thinking of installing it and would like to see images before I fully make up my mind :)
11:12.29hastecheck the oSkin thread
11:12.42DarkImakuniforums are down :(
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11:13.24nevcairieljust install it
11:13.32nevcairielit doesnt screw up your UI
11:13.36nevcairielremove it if you dont like :D
11:13.48hasteand the forums aren't down
11:14.06DarkImakuniI keep getting timed out
11:14.30DarkImakuniand I can't connect to WoW atm... I'm at work you see... :P
11:14.40CIA-1103coalado * r10190 10IIK_FeignTrap/core.lua:
11:14.40CIA-11- added Hunter detection
11:14.40CIA-11- status messages
11:15.08CIA-1103ammo * r10191 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua:
11:15.09CIA-11SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0:
11:15.09CIA-11* Bug fixed when debufftype was nil the texture wasn't set either
11:15.09CIA-11* Bug fixed with no applications set
11:15.09CIA-11* Fixed multiple debuffs with same name but different texture. This should help at Loatheb.
11:17.39DarkImakuniForums are back :) reset browser and empty cache ftw
11:19.46phyberDarkImakuni: http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_090406_202312.jpg
11:19.57phybermy res box :p
11:20.15CIA-1103rabbit * r10192 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/libs/: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Update externals for SpellCache and SpellStatus.
11:20.22phyberoh, and the tooltip
11:20.43DarkImakunivery nice :)
11:21.17nevcairielwhich tooltip addon is that phyber ?
11:21.48phyberthe skin on it is oSkin, the tooltip addon is TinyTip and the additional info in there is from MobInfo2
11:22.07nevcairielah mobinfo stuff
11:22.27phyberwell, except for the health, that's MobHealth3 :)
11:22.51evlphyber: What's the list of names on the left side, been trying to find that :)
11:23.03nevcairielthats perfectraid, or?
11:23.03phyberPerfectRaid? :)
11:23.11evltyty :)
11:24.26nevcairieli always wanted to try perfectraid in a raid, but i am kinda using my groupframe as well .. so didnt know where to place it
11:24.26DarkImakuni<3 oSkin 8)
11:24.46evlphyber: it's Ace1 *cry*
11:25.00nevcairielthere is a version vor ace2 in branches
11:25.04nevcairielvor=for
11:25.10evlahhhh
11:25.10evlnice
11:25.13phyberevl: There is an Ace2 version on WoWI at the moment
11:25.18phyberand the Ace2 version is in Branches too
11:25.25CIA-1103joshborke * r10193 10HealWatch/ (7 files):
11:25.26CIA-11HealWatch:
11:25.26CIA-11- updated the version (finally)
11:25.26CIA-11- fixed the cast bars to change the entire bar rather than just the spark (should have been that way all along)
11:25.27CIA-11- put in code to not watch for events from people with coms enabled (to prevent duplicate processing hopefully)
11:25.41DarkImakuniPerfectRaid is standalone, but it uses Ace1 if available
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11:53.22phyber-_-
11:54.07phyberthis just happened to a friend this morning.
11:54.07phyberScene:  Dumb Bint Colleague is taking a call from a New Client, creating an account for them.
11:54.07phyberDBC: Last detail then... What password would you like?
11:54.09phyberNC: (something)
11:54.09phyberBDC: Ooh, that's mine too. It's what I use to log in to the admin system in the morning.
11:54.15ckknight...
11:54.20vhaarrhahaha
11:54.28evllol
11:55.08DarkImakunilol
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11:56.59kergoth... wow
11:58.32mjc_hm?
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11:59.05[Taube]hi there
11:59.36mjc_it's an ammo clone
11:59.47mjc_breaking tab completes twice at once :D
11:59.56hastemjc_: you use irssi right?
12:00.05mjc_colloquy
12:00.12ckknightI go to my first day of college tomorrow
12:00.22mjc_ckknight: awesome
12:00.24ckknightwell, in 8 hours
12:00.57phybercool.  what course(s) are you doing?
12:01.06ckknightI suspect it will be rather depressing
12:01.11[Taube]college? damn, reading this makes me feel kinda old ;)
12:01.20ckknightmy major's Comp Sci, but all the classes I'm taking are prereqs
12:01.25ckknightof stuff I already know
12:01.43ckknightlike, I'm in Intro to CS, which is like Learn to code Java
12:01.43hasteI'm going to something they translate to university college
12:01.44ckknightblah.
12:01.47hastewhich sounds strange :3
12:01.58Soltanisahh the hardest parts of the a computer course :-)
12:02.01ckknightand I have intro to Comm
12:02.07ckknightlemme get my sheet...
12:02.26phyberhaste: what about irssi?
12:02.29ckknightAnalyzing and Writing Arguments
12:02.33ckknightalso probably easy
12:02.39hastephyber: it doesn't break nick completion on [nick] nicks
12:02.43ckknightCalculus II - I took up to Calc 3 in High School...
12:02.55ckknightAmerican Political System
12:03.03ckknightWhich I also know pretty damn well
12:03.11ckknightso yea
12:03.17ckknightI expect it to be depressing
12:03.20phyberah.  yeah, it works fine :)
12:03.26hasteyour math course sounds strange :3
12:03.28Shyvahighschool ckknight? or how old are you?
12:03.29ckknightat least I'll be able to take more placement tests
12:03.39ckknightjust turned 19, Shyva
12:03.40FtH|eagleamerican political sysetm? glad I didn't had something similar
12:03.47hasteIn norway we have it split into 1M, 1X, 2M, 2X, 3M, 3X
12:03.52ckknightwhy, FtH|eagle?
12:04.05cmaxx`punisheranyone know if there is an Itembonuses in ace2 ?
12:04.06ckknighthaste, what's that mean?
12:04.20hasteckknight: It's courses of maths basicly
12:04.36hasteckknight: might be the same if you have three levels
12:04.42ckknightmaybe
12:04.45hastesince they combine them usually
12:04.47Shyvawe got math a 1 and 2, and b 1 and 2, a is easy mode, b is hard -_-'
12:04.53ckknightthere's 3 levels of Calculus,
12:04.57ckknightafter that there's other stuff
12:05.04Soltanishmm calculus :-)
12:05.05hasteWe also have 1Z
12:05.06ckknightlike Combinatorics, Statistics, Discrete Math, etc.
12:05.11hasteWe also have 1Z, 2Z, 3Z*
12:05.17ckknightnumber theory
12:05.32[Taube]ckknight: i guess FtH|eagle means we europeans don´t get indoctrinated into our own political systems at school
12:05.39ckknightoh
12:05.43ckknightalright
12:05.46hastethe X and Z is basicly how hard it is
12:05.46FtH|eagleand that's good
12:06.13hastefrom the three years of school I've had, I've gotten 1MX, and I'm taking 2MX and 3MX this year :3
12:06.22Kaeltenhey guys
12:06.35FtH|eaglehi
12:06.36Shyvahey Kaelten
12:06.46Kaeltenckknight: when you visit the wiki do you see monobook? or the new skin?
12:07.04ckknight"I am interested in politics so that one day I will not have to be interested in politics."
12:07.24ckknightWarning: newfromkey(/home/wowace/public_html/wiki/skins/Standard.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/wowace/public_html/wiki/includes/Skin.php on line 132
12:07.26Healthpirate party!
12:07.33ckknightPirate Party ftw.
12:07.41ckknightthough I actually don't agree with all their policies.
12:07.45haste+ Hello Sweden
12:07.57DarkImakuniHiya Kaelten
12:07.58ckknightbut I'm against Croneyism
12:07.58Kaeltenoh I deleted that one.
12:07.59HealthWe're having elections in sweden in like a week
12:08.00Kaeltenbah
12:08.09ckknightand Pirate Party is a step away from Croneyism
12:08.12ckknightso I see it as a good thing
12:08.12Kaeltenhiya DarkImakuni, Shyva, FtH|eagle :)
12:08.26ckknightHealth, you Swedish?
12:08.48*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@ohm.stl.gtri.gatech.edu)
12:08.55HealthYeah
12:09.31ckknightalright
12:09.33ckknightgood stuff
12:09.39Cheadsgoverment election in .se?
12:09.39FtH|eagleckknight: do you have to go to the courses? otherwise you could write the exams at the end and have some nice months :)
12:09.47Kaeltenello  JoshBorke
12:09.57ckknightFtH|eagle, sadly, at my school, they do take attendance
12:10.01HealthYes.. once every 4 years
12:10.05Cheadskk
12:10.05JoshBorkemorning Kaelten
12:10.09FtH|eagleoh, that's bad
12:10.14JoshBorkewhen ya gonna update combine? ^_^ just looked at it this morning
12:10.19ckknightyea, but it's a small classroom setting
12:10.27ckknightnot like 100 students per class
12:10.30Kaeltenmediawiki is being contempteous to me
12:10.30ckknightlike 30 max or so.
12:10.31Kaelten:s
12:10.33ckknightand such
12:10.34[Taube]eaggle: you can´t cpmpare their clases to our semsters ;)
12:10.39KaeltenJoshBorke: when its ready to be :)
12:11.56FtH|eagleI'm not comparing some things in detail, I didn't know that you have to attend all courses in a college
12:12.06FtH|eaglethat's why I asked
12:12.23[Taube]FtH|eagle: was ist eigentlich dein ingmae name?
12:12.36FtH|eagleghash
12:12.40hastehello german :3
12:12.45[Taube]oh, hehe ;)
12:12.46FtH|eaglehi friends :P
12:12.57hasteI actually had German for three years, four years ago
12:13.04hastedon't remember much from it sadly enough :(
12:13.13FtH|eaglegerman is difficult
12:13.22ckknightIch bin ein Berliner.
12:13.36FtH|eaglegreat :)
12:13.48[Taube]haste: no loss on your part, it´s not the most cosmopolitan languages out there
12:13.49DarkImakunimein deutsch is nicht so gut :(
12:13.57JoshBorkeda stimpt!
12:14.00ckknightmmm... donut
12:14.25ShyvaI hate german, I had to repeat a year at school becuase I suck at it -_-
12:14.34[Taube]^^
12:14.40ckknightMein Deutsch ist schlecht. Ich lernte es fuer drei Jahre in Schule.
12:14.41hasteaaw
12:15.01hasteIt's still better then mine after three years ckk
12:15.13Shyvaidd, better then mine after 4 years :-X
12:15.14evlI just failed in french and german
12:15.18evlthen I flunked school
12:15.19ckknightlol
12:15.20evlnow I make millions!
12:15.20[Taube]t´was just a reflex on my part, asking ghash who he was, being a bit overwhelmed seeing one guy from my server hanging roud here. I mean, c´mon, what are the chances for this?
12:15.27Shyvafrench is easy evl ;-)
12:15.28hastehaha evl :p
12:15.30ckknightevl, I want some.
12:15.41evlBullshit, french is crap :P
12:15.44Shyvaatleast, it "was" easy at school
12:16.02FtH|eaglehey, I'm french :P
12:16.07evlGermans and french should learn one thing: By dubbing everything you look like idiots to everyone who speaks english.
12:16.22MoonWolfindeed
12:16.24DarkImakunii only know two languages... english and bad english
12:16.25evlIf it were for me, english would be the only language.
12:16.25MoonWolfsubbing ftw.
12:16.27Shyvasubbing > dubbing
12:16.32evlexactly
12:16.40hasteI agree
12:16.45evlin spain afaik they dub, horribly english understanding, in portugal they sub, good english understanding
12:16.54ShyvaI think the french / german cann't read or something :P
12:16.54evlhorrible*
12:17.03phyberwhat?! surely you enjoy the squeaky teenage voices that they dub anime in?
12:17.15evlhaste: Ergo Proxy > a lot of things
12:17.22hasteevl: yeh, it's gear :3
12:17.28DarkImakuni*squeaky teen voce* would you like fries with that? :P
12:17.30evlhaste: I want a Pino
12:17.33hasteevl: I'm watching Ranma 1/2 atm
12:17.38evlDarkImakuni: NO I'D LIKE DEATH WITH THAT PLEASE
12:17.44hasteI've only read the manga before, never watched the anime
12:17.46DarkImakunilol
12:17.57evlI have to hand it to animenfo though
12:18.11evlSamurai X: Reminesence is the best anime ever made
12:18.22evlimpossible to get a hold of sadly :(
12:18.29hasteevl: yeh, Kenshin is one of the best :3
12:18.36DarkImakuniI like Dot Hack myself...
12:18.37evlnot the series, too silly.
12:18.40hasteevl: but Saikano is on top still here
12:18.50evlRank 1 Rurouni Kenshin - Reminiscence (1999)
12:18.54hasteDarkImakuni: seen much of roots :3 ?
12:19.18DarkImakunihaste: whats roots?
12:19.31hasteDarkImakuni: zomg? .hack//Roots, as in the currently airing .hack
12:19.42DarkImakunizomg! new series?
12:19.49hasteDarkImakuni: yes, on e21 :3
12:19.59ckknightdown with foreign languages
12:20.04hasteLuaParry subs it
12:20.06ckknighteveryone should just learn English and be done with it
12:20.07evlNever seen .hack, where do I start? :P
12:20.13evlckknight: hear, hear.
12:20.13hasteerrr
12:20.16hastehello typo :3
12:20.17DarkImakuniwhich channel would that be on in UK?
12:20.20CIA-1103rabbit * r10194 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/BigWigs_HealbotAssist.lua:
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12:20.26hasteLuParry subs it even
12:20.41hasteDarkImakuni: probably none, as it's still being aired in japan and doesn't have a US company yet
12:21.14evlhaste: I saw you using minimalist on your addons list, I've converted most of it to Ace2 (broken into smaller pieces) and subbed the chat stuff with idChat2, interested? only 1/2 a bucked of cod
12:21.23hasteevl: I am?
12:21.28DarkImakuni<starts praying for it to be aired in UK>
12:21.30evlYou were!
12:21.33hasteevl: I were?
12:21.43evlI remember it vaguely
12:22.06evlhaste: guess not, oUF2 kk thx bye
12:22.09hasteevl: what chat stuff doesn't it contain that you're missing tho'?
12:22.18Thrae.hack//Roots is made by a subsidary of Bandai Entertainment. It'll be released here when it's done airing in Japan, coinciding with .hack//GU which it's loosely based off.
12:22.33[Taube]who di i have to pester for an futextures update including a nice oskin texture?
12:22.42nevdoes idChat2 fix that chatframe-selection issue on login ?
12:22.43hasteMe I would guess
12:22.50nevi hate running a single addon to just fix that
12:22.51evlnev: don't think so
12:22.54hastenev: ShowMyChat does that
12:23.23DarkImakuniany links to .hack//FRAGMENT?
12:23.28DarkImakunioops caps soz
12:23.53Thrae.hack//Fragment is an online game that Bandai decided not to release outside Japan.
12:23.56[Taube]btw: slowly i´m getting really impressed. most of my ui is coming diectly from the svn, the number of non-ace2´d mods i´m running is getting smaller by the day.
12:24.05DarkImakunidammit
12:24.23evlSame here, I have 59 addons running, 1 Ace1 left
12:24.49DarkImakuni43 addons, 8 ace1 (3 are fubar1.2)
12:25.19nevi have 3 ace1 .. someone make ducttape not use ace :p
12:26.01[Taube]i need to get my hands on andreasg sometimes, holydays are over, i guess
12:26.12phybernot sure how many I have that are Ace1 now.  but it looks like if I want them to be Ace2, I'll have to do it myself :p
12:26.15evlI'm gonna make a stab at Gonffbar today, the last man standing :D
12:26.23DarkImakuni<offers Kaelten some choccolate> pst... ace2 KC_Items plz :P
12:26.27evleven though haste is putting it in oUF
12:26.39Kaeltenlol
12:26.49[Taube]evl: that´s be great, so i could switch form energywatch
12:26.57yacoobThere's also tick.
12:27.13Kaeltenit will come, in time :)
12:27.27evlyacoob: where?
12:27.40DarkImakuniand I shall be waiting patiently :)
12:27.50phyberwe don't have time! the world is ending at the rate of 1 second per second.  you have to be quicker! :|
12:27.51yacoobhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4680-1-tick.html here
12:28.08DarkImakunilol @ phyber
12:28.48phyberI think I'm going to Ace2 Denial soon.
12:28.53evlyacoob: i'm just gonna make a simple one with a single candybar and a spark
12:29.17evlmost rogues (i hope) have figured out how nice it is to have the spark ontop of your energy bar
12:29.39ThraeMinimalist has the features of Denial in it.
12:30.06Wobinrevv:  Gonffbar, please do =) I really have no time =(
12:30.19Wobinwhere revv == "Re:"
12:30.40evlThrae_: what does denial do?
12:30.48phyberThrae: oh, nice :)
12:30.50hasteGonffbar is the easiest add on to convert, I would guess
12:31.00hasteas it doesn't contain the fubar stuff :3
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12:31.18hasteI'm green when it comes to tablet and such at elast
12:31.25Thraeevl: Auto-denies Trades, Duels, etc. Stuff that other players can use to annoy people.
12:31.34evlThrae: aha :)
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12:31.48phyberah, Minimalist is Ace1 though and is more bulky since it has a GUI.
12:31.56phyberat least, the one on WoWI
12:32.11DarkImakunidoes anyone know if the authors of CritterInFu, FuXPFu, and KCIFu are converting to ace2/fu2 or should I have a crack at it myself?
12:32.26WobinGonffbar is at heart a copy of ocb
12:32.31Cheadsuhmm did US servers have a patch today?
12:32.41Wobinwith a lot stripped out
12:32.41Wobinand added
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12:32.50WobinDarkImakuni: in regards to fuxpfu, go for it
12:32.56Moondrake[G5]hi all
12:33.22hasteWell, I can probably convert GonffBar, if no one else does it :3
12:33.42phyberDarkImakuni: be careful. If you Ace2 a FuBar mod, people will ask you for support.  You should run, now.
12:33.54nevis DuctTape still needed or was that UI glitch fixed?
12:34.03Moondrake[G5]got a little problem here, the bar textures of BigWigs and oCD have disappeared (i only see the light going down) and the map texture in my minmap disappears to as soon as i start any candybar^^
12:34.25hasteMoondrake[G5]: restarted your client after updating?
12:34.38WobinI have notions of adding to fuxpfu, at least converting so that the rep bar shows at the same time... but I just don't have the time =(
12:34.41Moondrake[G5]yeppa
12:34.50Moondrake[G5]didnt do it yesterday, only now^^
12:34.51ThraeWhat does DuctTape do again?
12:35.01hasteMoondrake[G5]: using the !!!Libs thingy?
12:35.11hastethe !!!Libs thingy eats babies I've heared
12:35.22Moondrake[G5]darn^^
12:35.47haste:3
12:35.47Moondrake[G5]hmm trying without it, sec
12:36.25Moondrake[G5]haste: anyway ace2 loads the latest libs version it can find in any addon right?
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12:36.37nevThrae: ducttape was supposed to fix weird behaviour of dropdown elements
12:37.00ThraeHmm, I haven't had problems with dropdown elements.
12:37.30hasteMoondrake[G5]: It should, but I know CandyBars has caused trouble when it has had old versions laying around
12:37.41evl!!!Libraries is dangerous
12:37.47evlI've been getting tons of wierdness with it
12:37.54hasteI blame the "!!!"
12:38.03haste'cause I have to write them like: \!\!\! :<
12:38.04snurrewhy would a luser use !!!libraries?
12:38.14hasteno idea
12:38.15ThraeSO you can ignore externals.
12:38.27Moondrake[G5]haste: that seemed to do it^^
12:38.28snurrebut it only breaks things :/
12:38.38evlyeah
12:38.38nevthe externals come with the zipped addon anyway, where is the point ?
12:38.40Moondrake[G5]back to normal
12:38.44evlnev: updates.
12:38.54Thraenev: Intended for developers
12:39.17hasteI don't find it useful as a developer
12:39.18hastebut meeeh
12:39.21ThraeAlso, loading all embedded libraries first gives more accurate Warmup readings
12:39.26CIA-1103phyber * r10195 10/branches/Denial2/ (. phyber/ phyber/Denial2.lua phyber/Denial2.toc):
12:39.26CIA-11Denial2:
12:39.26CIA-11- Initial Import, empty files. Maybe I can have this done by the time I leave work :p
12:39.50nevi just ignore all ace2 addons in warmup, they are always way too big :D
12:40.05DarkImakuniI'll give FuXPFu2 a shot
12:40.14ThraeHence why I keep Ace2 in its own addon
12:40.30Moondrake[G5]yeah i had it in there cause some time i use a Ace2 addon which was lacking libs, i updated !!!Libs out of habit, never had a prob until today^^
12:40.39nevhrm
12:40.46DarkImakuniI keep all my ace2 libs in Ace/Ace-2.0
12:41.06nevIndustrial: with idChat2_ChannelNames - i do /chatlist and only get the numbers as well
12:41.15nevthat kinda sucks
12:41.26Thrae~seen Industrial
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12:41.55nevbah, afk
12:41.56DarkImakunii cut and paste the file with the higher revision number over older files
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12:43.54Moondrake[G5]haste: weird, candybars are back, but my minimap is still black^^
12:44.14Moondrake[G5]could have sth to do with squeenix^^
12:44.34hasteit's happens with the default one under Linux, from time to time
12:44.49Moondrake[G5]haste: no linux and never happened^^
12:45.11Moondrake[G5]only things changed since yesterday: squeenix + visor
12:45.22hasteAh, what did you change with Visor?
12:45.48Moondrake[G5]haste: guess  :P the minimap cluster, moved it with visorgui
12:45.59MikmaMoondrake[G5]: /hail
12:46.08Moondrake[G5];)
12:46.17MikmaMoondrake[G5]: OS X here too :)
12:46.32Moondrake[G5]hmm, disabling Visor, puts my minimap back on the right side, goes black after a while anyway^^
12:47.31DarkImakuni<plays on a Windows PC, is excited about Mac OS X Jaguar, and can't type italic emotes>
12:47.44haste/me does something.
12:47.45nev|afkjust use /me
12:47.49MikmaMoondrake[G5]: G4 :,,(
12:47.55Moondrake[G5]ohh
12:48.06Mikmabut PPC is rock rock
12:48.12Moondrake[G5];)
12:48.35MikmaMoondrake[G5]: this PPC is faster on zoning than my gf's 2.4GHz :)
12:48.37Moondrake[G5]a comand is /me? i only used keyboard shortcut to send as action
12:49.15Moondrake[G5]Mikma: yeah but the framrate with same graphics processor is way under those of PCs, damn DirectX
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12:50.20MikmaIrssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/
12:50.22Mikmamehehe
12:50.59Moondrake[G5]Mikma: http://homepage.mac.com/philrobin/conversation/
12:51.06Moondrake[G5]mikma: for the look ;)
12:51.34Mikmahmm
12:51.40Moondrake[G5]but this still doesn't give me my minimap back, grmpfl
12:51.47Mikmaapt-get install irssi :D'
12:52.31Moondrake[G5]Darklamkuni: btw jaguar is an old version, upcoming is Leopard
12:52.34ThraeWhat, my version is old?
12:52.52DarkImakunier... yeah that too :P
12:52.56Moondrake[G5]:P
12:54.28Moondrake[G5]hmm any addon out there to alter minimap shape and move it around?
12:54.39ThraeVisor works well.
12:55.24LH|Taubehttp://www.curse-gaming.com/de/wow/addons-4136-1-simpleminimap.html
12:55.27Moondrake[G5]Thrae: true you just came in, i used squeenix and visor yesterday, and today my minimap (the inside of it) vanishes after a while
12:55.36LH|Taubebeen using that for quite a while now
12:56.51Moondrake[G5]LHITaube: hmm, i'll check it out thx
12:56.55ThraeMoondrake[G5]: And disabling them brings it back?
12:56.59DarkImakunihttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1685 <-- my minimap
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12:57.20ThraeI use a PC, so I can't say how Visor + Squeenix works on a Mac. I use the combo myself.
12:57.30Moondrake[G5]Dark: used that a year ago, but my minimap now resides on the left of my screen ;)
12:57.45Thraes/PC/Windows/
12:57.55Thraes/a Windows/Windowsa/
12:58.00Moondrake[G5]Thrae: a game is platform independent when launched
12:58.34ThraeMoondrake[G5]: The behavior of World of Warcraft on a Mac is not 100% the same as on Windows.
12:58.35hasteexcept that the Mac version of WoW has a rumor of crashing on badly coded add ons :3
12:58.38Moondrake[G5]especially since addons are in the same code
12:59.06ThraeYou must remember, the engine must be coded specifically for OSX.
12:59.10Moondrake[G5]haste: guess you guys code well, had 3 crashes in 1 1/2 year now
12:59.34Moondrake[G5]2 of them being server crashes while zoning
13:00.02LH|Taubemoondrake[G5]: could look like this then: http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/535/minimalistbeta2xq0.jpg
13:00.30Moondrake[G5]Taube: as long as i can toggle border back on^^
13:00.51LH|Taubeborders are toggle-able
13:01.21phyberNeriak's crazy LUA makes translating Denial to Ace2 fun!*
13:01.33phyberwell, his option setting functions are mad anyway.  
13:01.36phyberI don't get it :|
13:01.38evlLH|Taube: how'd you move all the minimap icons around?
13:01.40DarkImakuni*fun = hell?
13:01.55Thraeevl: I use Visor for that myself
13:01.57phyberDarkImakuni: yeah :p
13:03.36LH|Taubeevl: most of the time, i don´t. i tend to get destracted by them and comment em out in the lua
13:03.55DarkImakuni<PROTECTED>
13:04.43Moondrake[G5]looks like this right now: http://webplaza.pt.lu/screener/nef_kmc/ScreenShot_090506_150248.jpeg
13:04.50DarkImakuniis that oRA2 in that screen, Taube?
13:05.57LH|TaubeDarkImakuni: that´s still oRa1. I only switched to oRa2 yesterday and it worked fine the whole mc run
13:09.01LH|Taubei´m currently at office so i don´t have a screenie around, using oUF2, Pubcrawl and oSkin, but switching from duf/dab improved performance on my shitty notebook considerably
13:09.45Moondrake[G5]yeah dumping discord really helps a lot
13:09.54LH|Taubenow i need "only" to convert my old unitframe layout =/
13:11.40Moondrake[G5]Thrae: hmm now the minimap stays (squeenix+Visor) i hope it will, but you can kick me hard, i forgot to check bugsack for any problems earlier^^
13:11.56phyberactually, this isn't so bad.  I get what's going on in the functions now. :)
13:13.34Moondrake[G5]damn, disapeared just now, no error^^and server going down in 5 minutes^^i guess i'll try it on my french server if it's still up :(
13:14.27LH|Taubeeuro servers go down in about 12 hours, you have all the time of the world on the french one
13:14.40Moondrake[G5]German one just got down
13:15.32nev|afki am playing on a german server right now .. not any sign of "down-going" ^^
13:15.36LH|Taubereally? ah, wtf, since 1.12 they´re totally bugged. guess that happens when you upgrade your 386 to p100 ^^
13:16.03Moondrake[G5]lol. i play on Alleria and Archimonde
13:16.24nev|afkAlleria is restarting
13:16.27nev|afkall other are up
13:16.28LH|Taubethe server shutdowns depend on your realmpool. #2 and #3 are the unstable one, #1, #4 an #5 are fine
13:16.36nev|afk#1 is fine?
13:16.40Moondrake[G5]LHITaube: servers are great since the new Hardware upgrade, had no Raidlags in 2 weeks now
13:16.43nev|afki would know :p
13:17.00nev|afkyou are lucky. since the upgrade we have lag all the time.
13:17.36LH|Taubewtf? haben a rough 900ms in AV and getting aup to 7 sek delay in the 20 man raids, uo to 10 sek delay in mc/bwl
13:17.55LH|Taubehaben=have, old customs die hard ^^
13:17.55Moondrake[G5]no it hasn't to do anythings with the servers^^both germans?
13:18.12nev|afkwe canceld all high-end raids this week due to lag
13:18.20Moondrake[G5]like last year the connection T-Com - Tellia - Server is laggy as hell
13:18.36LH|Taubeit has to do with the size of the realmpool your server is attached to. there are only 2 pools with 15+ server in ´em and they´re laggy as hell
13:18.37nev|afkkinda weird, that it started the day after the upgrades :D
13:18.50Moondrake[G5]since i'm not in germany i had no lags in weeks
13:19.13nev|afkI am on Antonidas, pool #1, and everybody has lags .. like stuttering .. every 3s it lags for 1s
13:19.29Moondrake[G5]oh, i'm pool 2
13:19.32nev|afk(only in instances)
13:19.33DarkImakuniwhats ur realm, moondrake?
13:19.37Moondrake[G5]Alleria
13:19.43Moondrake[G5]and Archimonde
13:19.50nev|afkisnt alleria in #1 ?
13:19.56LH|Taubethat´s pool 2, right. so you should experience those stutters in instances, too
13:19.57DarkImakuniUS realms?
13:20.13Moondrake[G5]nah, we were part of the second pool
13:20.16nev|afkno, eu
13:20.18Moondrake[G5]Dark: no
13:20.27Moondrake[G5]Euro German and Euro French
13:20.46DarkImakuniright... im euro english :P
13:21.11DarkImakuniAzjol-Nerub
13:21.31Moondrake[G5]but like i said, and like numerous posts on sites say, it's related to IPs and not server, yesterday in AQ40 7/40 had lags, the other players had no lag whatsoever
13:21.42LH|Taubeshows again the we eu-users are only second class customers =/
13:22.06Moondrake[G5]Dark: hehe, have some german friends and some French friends, so i play on those, would prefer English though
13:22.31nev|afkI just looked it up, alleria is in pool #1 .. i was quite sure i saw some of those alleria'ns in battlegrounds :p
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13:22.41Moondrake[G5]loooool
13:22.51Moondrake[G5]Battleleage 1 yes, but not serverpool
13:23.13LH|Taubeserverpools and battlegound pools are one and the same
13:23.22Moondrake[G5]^^
13:23.33nev|afkthere is that theory, that battleground pools are based on their hosting location
13:23.49LH|Taubeand that´s quite funny. playing on a pvp server, i regularly get into BGs with a lot of rp-pve types
13:23.53Moondrake[G5]so why were we serverpool2 for upgrades^^
13:24.09nev|afkand pool 1 lags .. atleast my server does .. stupid telias fault again, i bet
13:24.32Moondrake[G5]nev: yeppa, wait i'll search the news
13:24.44hastehttp://wowrp.com/bc/ :3
13:24.56LH|Tauberealmpool#1 deDE: Antonidas, Blackhand, Alexstrasza, Alleria, Baelgun
13:25.04Moondrake[G5]http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=18672227&postId=185405501&sid=3#0
13:25.36LH|Taubehttp://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/basics/battlegrounds/battlegroups.html <---- list of deDE pools
13:25.49Moondrake[G5]see my post for lag probs
13:26.03nev|afki even submitted traceroutes for me, but they looked good.
13:26.14Moondrake[G5]haste: nice1
13:26.40Moondrake[G5]"what do you mean there's an octopus on my face" looool
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13:26.57hasteblood elf, female
13:27.08nev|afkdrainei male is great
13:27.11haste"Normally i only ride on epic mounts, but lets talk"
13:27.19Moondrake[G5]lool
13:27.26nev|afklol
13:27.38nev|afkman,blizz did it again
13:27.42LH|Taubei should pause wow till bc. i´m too exited and can´t wait for it, so ever day, it becomes more painful :>
13:28.04hasteglad I'm not like that :3
13:28.25nev|afkfemale bloodelfs only talk that stuff .. oh man
13:28.33Moondrake[G5]nev: "man, blizz did it again" yeah giving nice voices so we forget about the pala/shaman thingie^^
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13:29.04nev|afkhehe
13:29.43LH|TaubeMoondrake: can´t wait to have palys, been playing alliance for most of the time, recently switched to horde and i really miss that stupid buggers
13:30.15Moondrake[G5]hehe, yeah lets get one more class per side and only create new dungeons with 25max^^
13:30.16eternally777Any word on when the Wiki should be operational again?
13:30.32nev|afki basicly like the 25max thing
13:31.00Moondrake[G5]nev: yeah as long as encounters are balanced, not like naxx^^
13:31.34LH|Taube"I hate Thunder Bluff. You can´t get a decent burger anywhere!"
13:31.54Moondrake[G5]nev: seeing the recent kills that require a certain raidsetup really pisses one off
13:32.25Soltanisare you a warlock or a hunter Moondrake[G5] ?
13:32.32Moondrake[G5]Priest
13:33.29LH|Taubeby hie screenshot, he looks like one of those pesky dwarfen holy pve gimps ^^
13:33.32Moondrake[G5]"i am the girl the esrb warned you about" loool
13:33.50nev|afkbloodelfs are great
13:33.52Moondrake[G5]Taube: hihi
13:34.13Moondrake[G5]Taube: but not holy ;)
13:35.39Mikmatiger owned conan o'briens sofa
13:35.43Moondrake[G5]Taube: but you're right, that too pisses me off: "oh dwarf priest, he, couldn't find a raid with your hunter or what?" WTF can't i play the race and class i like?^^
13:36.23LH|Taubeyou´re talking to a warlock. tell my about how hard it is to get a raid place when only 2 of us are taken along
13:36.49Moondrake[G5]Taube: ok but normally it's easy to find one since there aren't a lot
13:36.55LH|TaubeOo
13:37.00Moondrake[G5]Taube: sorry, there "weren't"
13:37.19Moondrake[G5]since ppl saw what a lock can do in PvP many play them now
13:38.14LH|Taubeyea. i fondly rememebr the days when we locks were a 2% minority who got their butt handed to them in pvp
13:38.34DarkImakuniI'm a Hunter, and I never get taken anywhere :(
13:39.05DarkImakuniexcept Shadowfang Keep
13:39.08LH|Taubereroll in my server and join my raid. we have an abundance of priests and no dps at all :>
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13:39.15Moondrake[G5]dark: played a hunter afterwards: really though finding ppl, but i managed to get T1 completly
13:39.41DarkImakunithe only t1 I have is Beaststalker's Bindings
13:39.53DarkImakuniwhats ur server taube
13:39.57Moondrake[G5]btw: you saw the early designs of T4? fake or real early design?
13:40.05LH|Taubedestromath, eu, deDE
13:40.35Mikmamm i downgraded to 1.5.0.6 firefox
13:40.38LH|Taubeoh lol! "are you thinking what i am thinking? good! bring ample supply of butter an chumper cables."
13:40.43Mikmathe 2 beta 1 crashesw like every 5min
13:41.34Moondrake[G5]http://www.wowexposed.de.vu/ under T4 on the right side menu
13:42.57LH|Taubeif t4 is only close to t3, i stick to my nemesis
13:43.08DarkImakuniMikma: I use 2.0 beta 2 and it works fine
13:43.36Mikmahmm
13:43.49Moondrake[G5]Taube: les wait and see ;) anyway, no set can be as ugly as hunter T2 or Pala T3^^
13:44.46LH|Taubemoondrake: if i go on like that, i´ll spent 90% of my time fiddling around with my ui, and 10% spamming /hug and /love in BGs
13:46.09Moondrake[G5]lool, i spend 50% fiddling and 50% raiding, is there anything else in this game at 60?^^
13:46.13LH|Taubeso, no need/time to get an new set
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13:46.50LH|Taubehm. flaming aroud in badlands generall chat
13:47.02Moondrake[G5]damn forgot about that
13:47.14Moondrake[G5]:P
13:47.43LH|Taubehow can you forget about the most important social activity wow has to offer?
13:48.01Moondrake[G5]i still wish for professions like they were in early SWG :( or simply sth fun can do without having to farm all day
13:48.33Laricwonder if someone will shoot me for filing all these flyspray reports based on framexml.log :P
13:48.40LH|Taubenope, vote against upgraded professions. why? simple, the professions as they are can be used by casual players
13:49.03Moondrake[G5]ultimatly everything in WoW goes with farming, Diablo in 3D, hack and slash with some semblance of Roleplayinggame^^
13:49.15DarkImakuniwhy does http://www.wowexposed.de.vu/ only show T4 for the class types I don't play as? :P
13:49.26Moondrake[G5]dark: of course
13:50.00Moondrake[G5]dark: but hey, as aslways, BC talents/spell for hunter are not out yet, but this time priest isn't, too
13:50.25DarkImakunibc talents?
13:50.47LH|Taubehehe, and the priests are caslling out for doomsday in the official forums. quite entertaining to read
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13:53.14Moondrake[G5]dark: yup  Taube: really?
13:53.54Moondrake[G5]Taube: you read that forum post where they tried to find out which was more evil? lock or priest?
13:54.11LH|TaubeMoondrake: the usual stuff: "Blii hates us", "Help! We´re being raped!" and best of all "I don´t wanna play my priest any longer"
13:54.25DarkImakuniI play as Hunter, Warlock and Druid. Are any BC talents for those released yet?
13:54.39LH|Taubehehe, yeah, read it and posted some comments, was fun.
13:55.04LH|TaubeDark: Warlocks are out. take a look http://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/underdev/burningcrusade/warlock/talents.html#none
13:55.22Moondrake[G5]Taube: Der Hexer ist böser.
13:56.27Moondrake[G5]Priester sind nicht wirklich böse, nur schizo.
13:56.28Moondrake[G5]Heilt, böse, dann bufft er, böse, dann schütz er euch mit nem Schild, wieder böse.
13:56.28Moondrake[G5]i like being schizophrenic ^^
13:56.28Moondrake[G5]dark: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/burningcrusade/townhall/talents-and-spells.html
13:56.49Moondrake[G5]in english and overview of all classes ;)
13:58.18LH|TaubeMoondrake: My only guess is that priests are stuck in the notion that they deserve more than they have gotten.
13:58.53Moondrake[G5]as do all classes, raids and BG forced all players in a mould
13:58.53LH|Taubelike they MUST be able to heal the best, meanwhile farm as good as any dd class, etc
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13:59.28Moondrake[G5]Taube: no prob with farming if you know how to play, that's the biggest problem
13:59.43LH|Taubeand when you talk to all the whiners, it comes down to this: they only socialize with their raids, and the rest of the time hang out solo
14:00.21Moondrake[G5]Taube: thx for remindingme, i got an urgent call to make^^socialize a bit :P
14:00.36LH|Taubeyou´re welcome ^^
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14:01.42Moondrake[G5]hearing some voice instead of the lines here will do me some good and convince me that i'm not addicted, right?
14:02.10LH|Taubenah, not right
14:02.36Moondrake[G5]hehe
14:03.36Moondrake[G5]jokes aside: WoW helps me forget a bit of my professional life which is social as hell
14:03.54LH|Taubecan´t complain about that
14:04.12Moondrake[G5]on the other hand lot's in WoW are not older than my students^^
14:04.25LH|Taubei don´t play wow in the summer and only start again in and around august or so
14:05.10Moondrake[G5]me too, only did a few raids this summer, when it was crappy outside
14:05.12LH|Taubealso, freelance work tneds to get in the way
14:05.22Moondrake[G5]can imagine that
14:06.08yacoobMoondrake[G5]: you mean... when you login you turn sociopath? :D
14:06.41Moondrake[G5]yacoob: i'm a schizophrenic dwarven priest with a big mace, what do you think?^^
14:06.57yacoobFor a dwarf with hammer, every problem looks like nail.
14:06.58CIA-1103rabbit * r10196 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs: Kel'Thuzad: Skeleton module added.
14:07.05Moondrake[G5]exactly
14:08.26CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10197 10Denial2/ (Denial2.lua Denial2.toc):
14:08.26CIA-11Denial2:
14:08.26CIA-11- Base is there. Now adding localization stuff.
14:10.07Moondrake[G5]see ya laterz, going out a bit
14:10.13DarkImakuniRabbit: typo on Kelthuzad.lua line 15
14:10.16LH|Taubehave fun
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14:11.31[Ammo]DarkImakuni: it's a skeleton module
14:11.35[Ammo]just so I don't have to copy paste :)
14:11.39[Ammo]now to fill it in
14:11.58DarkImakunii know, i like being annoying :P
14:20.23eternally777So regarding the wiki.wowace.com issue.. any word on it?  I feel lost and cold without it :(
14:21.01CIA-1103mikma * r10198 10Bartender2_Dreamlayout/Bartender2_Dreamlayout.toc: Bartender2 Dreamlayout: Filenames changed and functions renamed
14:21.09Mikmarrrrriiight
14:21.51CIA-1103mikma * r10199 10Bartender2_Dreamlayout/ (Dreamlayout.lua Mockup.lua): Bartender2 Dreamlayout: Filenames changed and functions renamed, try nr.2
14:21.52Mikmadoing!
14:23.25MoonWolfdreamlayout ?
14:23.34Mikmayea
14:23.40MoonWolfwhats that ?
14:23.45nev|afkthat name atleast gets some attention
14:23.46nev|afk:)
14:23.51Mikmacool :)
14:24.07Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/mu.jpg
14:24.09nev|afkand it seems to be working quite good for me
14:24.22CIA-1103ammo * r10200 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs (Kelthuzad): less skeletal
14:24.23Mikma(the background thingy on the big bar ;)
14:24.30phybergod bless the command line.  easy generating of locales from an already typed out script :p
14:24.33Mikmawell i just updated it to work even better with Pagemaster :D
14:24.35phybergrep 'desc =' Denial2.lua | cut -d "=" -f2 | sed 's/^ /[/' | sed 's/",/"] = true,/'
14:24.41Mikmaand i'm committing the pagemaster soon
14:25.57LH|Taube@Mikma: that look nice indeed
14:25.58CIA-1103mikma * r10201 10Bartender2_Pagemaster/ (Bartender2_Pagemaster.toc Core.lua Pagemaster.lua): Bartender2 Pagemaster: Support for Dreamlayout added, no more swap-delay on backgrounds
14:26.00Mikmadoing x2 !
14:26.18MikmaLH|Taube: thanks :)
14:26.49LH|Taubeah, well, gotta swap pubcrawl for it, when i get home
14:27.16nev|afkis there a minimap addon in ace2 ?
14:27.17MikmaPubcrawl has the same layout in it already :) I gave it to ag when he made it
14:27.25nev|afkstriping stuff, moving it around
14:27.40LH|Taubeyeah, but i feel kinda lonely w/o my pet bar
14:28.54Mikmamm. petbar. i need to add the layout for it too
14:29.34Mikmaoh neat, an error!
14:29.37HealthI get all confused by all the bt2 stuff
14:29.44Healthare they extra modules or a fork?
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14:30.58Mikmaextra modules
14:31.23HealthI see
14:33.04Health"Reactive Page Swap" doesn't tell me much :P
14:33.25CIA-1103mikma * r10202 10Bartender2_Pagemaster/ (Bartender2_Pagemaster.toc Keys.lua Pagemaster.lua): Bartender2 Pagemaster: bugfix
14:33.51MikmaHealth: bars swap on shift alt ctrl + friendly target
14:34.18HealthI see
14:35.01Healthonly between 2 bars?
14:35.03andreasgthat pagemaster thingy, can it swap pages for all bars?
14:35.04nev|afkMikma you should force borders off on dreamlayout :)
14:36.08Mikmanev|afk: true
14:36.18CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10203 10Denial2/ (Denial2.lua Denial2.toc Denial2Locale-enUS.lua):
14:36.19CIA-11Denial2:
14:36.19CIA-11- enUS locale done.
14:36.19CIA-11- This thing should now work, but it will probably just kick your dog.
14:37.23nev|afkshapeshiftbar doesnt have the dreamlayout border, missing or never supposed to?
14:38.57phyberanyone here that uses Denial feel like testing Denial2?  Still 1h 20m before I can go home and test myself ;)
14:39.13Mikmanevcairiel: not yet, i forgot about it last night :D
14:39.28LH|Taubephyber: sry, i´m waiting to go home myself
14:39.31nevcairielah :)
14:39.34Mikmabrb
14:39.42Mikmabrb=bbl
14:41.33CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10204 10Denial2/ (Denial2.toc Libs/):
14:41.33CIA-11Denial2:
14:41.33CIA-11- Added Libs/ directory and set externals on it.
14:41.33CIA-11- Added Libs to TOC.
14:43.30phyberI hope the options table works in Denial2, it means I can group the options in XPBarNone then :)
14:44.57LH|Taubeah, shift´s over. see ya later
14:45.42ThraeAnyone know any UI issues for 1.12? I'm planning on making an addon called "FixMe" which incorporates fixes for the Blizzard UI.
14:46.18nevcairielthat chatframe issue upon login
14:46.30ThraeAh right, that'll be included too.
14:47.39eternally777Is BigWigs_ZombieFood for the Gluth encounter?
14:48.36vhaarrmainly, yes
14:49.01CIA-1103ammo * r10205 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua:
14:49.01CIA-11BigWigs (Kelthuzad):
14:49.01CIA-11* Start warning, 5 minute phase 1 bar
14:49.01CIA-11* Phase 2 incoming 20 second bar
14:49.02CIA-11* Shadow Fissure warnings
14:51.30FtH|eaglewhat's shadow fissure?
14:51.37bindiphyber
14:51.40DarkImakunia dark earthquake
14:51.40bindiwhat does denial do?
14:52.11phyberbindi: blocks various events and skips various gossip dialogs.
14:52.18bindi:o
14:52.23bindiquest dialogs?
14:52.27phyberso, you cna block people dueling you and skip the random chat at the gryphon master, for example.
14:52.44nevcairielive used minimalist but ditched it and replaced the chat features with idChat2 .. might try denial
14:52.49bindiaha
14:53.06Kaeltenback
14:53.07bindihave idchat2 too
14:53.09bindii liked it
14:53.19bindilike/*
14:53.20phyberit's just the Ace2 port of Neriak's Denial, since he doesn't appear to be interested in upgrading it :)
14:53.21bindibleh
14:53.24bindilike*
14:53.36bindihmm can't test it atm tho
14:54.41phybernevcairiel: cool.  I'm at work right now, but if you let me know what bugs out, then I'll commit some fixes ;)
14:55.19CIA-1103ammo * r10206 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua:
14:55.19CIA-11BigWigs (Kelthuzad):
14:55.19CIA-11* toggleoptions fix
14:55.42CIA-1103nimbal * r10207 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
14:56.49nevcairielline 238, unexpected symbol near [
14:56.50nevcairiel:)
14:59.41Wobinsomeone needs to write a mod that takes all the minmap buttons and lays them out in one of those zoomy type mouseover things like you get on the mac
15:00.42bindi:o
15:00.45bindiwhats druidcom? :o
15:00.56Kaeltenckknight: you there?
15:01.07nevcairielphyber: bugsack is bitching about some error in line 238, but i cannot find anything wrong with that actually .. or i am blind
15:01.21Wobin<PROTECTED>
15:01.43bindihmm nice :)
15:01.54Kaeltencan someone go to the wiki and tell me what theme they are seeing?
15:01.57bindiWobin, to have a clean minimap idminimap is nice
15:02.15Wobinbindi: I don't need a clean minimap
15:02.15phybernevcairiel: hmm  You should only get to that line if you're zoning into BWL or MC
15:02.15[Ammo]ah blue and brown theme
15:02.21bindik :p
15:02.30WobinI need a minimapbutton manager
15:02.41nevcairielphyber: thats weird, the error came on login
15:02.45phyberKaelten: a spangly new one.
15:02.53phybernevcairiel: hmm.
15:02.59Kaeltenphyber: [Ammo] did you normally use a nother one?
15:03.06DarkImakuniBigWigs 10206 only has the changelog in the zip, no mod :(
15:03.35phyberKaelten: I think I just kept it as default.
15:04.05Kaeltenk, I think I hacked it so this is the only one anyone will see
15:04.17Kaeltenor can see for that matter
15:04.19eternally777Kael, same here. I just used default.
15:04.27nevcairielphyber: due to that error, the whole addon isnt loading, chat command not working
15:04.54Kaeltenif anyone spots something that doesn't look right in the new skin let me know so I can go in and work on it.  I'm sure that there are still some styles that aren't perfect
15:05.00Kaeltennext one to work on is the forums :s
15:05.01[Ammo]Kaelten: I went to wiki.wowace.com/ and got the blue and brown thing
15:05.10eternally777Awesome it's back up!  I was so lost and confused :(
15:05.11[Ammo]blue sidebar, brownish background on the pages
15:05.16phybernevcairiel: probably due to difference with hooking in Ace1/2.  I can probably do it in a much nicer way than Neriak did.
15:05.41phyberbut still, I don't know why you would get the error, ah well :)
15:05.47phyberI'll check it out when I get home i guess.
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15:05.57nevcairielneriak added a frame to catch the events .. bad enough ;)
15:07.49LH|Taubere
15:09.10phybernevcairiel: hmm, might have found the source of that error ;)
15:09.53oxmanhum
15:10.07oxmanglazeStatusBar on perfectraid is nice
15:10.07oxman:D
15:10.16phybernevcairiel: also trying it without the Hook now, just Registering the GOSSIP_SHOW event.
15:11.55CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10208 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
15:11.55CIA-11Denial2:
15:11.56CIA-11- Fix missing L on MC zoning text.
15:11.57CIA-11- Get rid of the OnEvent hook and just register the GOSSIP_SHOW event.
15:11.59phyberah, there.
15:12.03eternally777I'm off to an interview, wish me luck :)
15:12.10phybergood luck!
15:12.28nevcairielso trying again
15:12.33CIA-1103ammo * r10209 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua:
15:12.33CIA-11BigWigs (Kelthuzad):
15:12.33CIA-11* Interuptable frost bolt warning
15:13.51nevcairielno error on login
15:14.01nevcairiellets see the gryphon guy
15:14.08oxmanhaste why you don't use glazeStatusBar for loot ?
15:14.37phybernevcairiel: nice :)  hopefully if it's working you should end up right at the map to choose where you go.  instead of having to speak to him first.
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15:15.03NeronixHaha
15:15.14NeronixI got the junior dux at my school and my mum overreacted ^^
15:15.17hasteoxman: isn't the glaze texture used there?
15:15.29Neronix"OMGWTFBBQ! *bearhugs* *phones all the relatives*"
15:15.57phyberjunior dux?
15:16.44Neronix"In English, dux is also a modern title given to the top academic student in a graduating class of a school, used in Scotland, Australia and New Zealand, similar to the American concept of a valedictorian;compare also dean's list"
15:17.22hasteNeronix: then your 100 times more serious then me :3
15:17.33phyberahh.  my gf would have understood then.  she's scottish and uses crazy scottish words sometimes.
15:17.56phybergood for translating when I don't understand people in glasgow though :p
15:18.01Neronixhehe
15:18.24phyberguy was selling a newspapers and not one word of what he said was understood ;)
15:18.45nevcairielphyber: the AceConsole part is erroring, so chat command is broken :/
15:19.11nevcairielphyber: says Line 158, args.skip: "name" must be a string.
15:19.39phyberhmm...
15:21.38CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10210 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
15:21.38CIA-11Denial2:
15:21.38CIA-11- Added names to 'group' options.
15:21.41phybertry that :)
15:22.49nevcairiel160: args.msg. "usage" must be a string
15:23.42phyber:o
15:24.18phyberah
15:24.32CIA-1103ven * r10211 10vChat/Core.lua: vChat: improved timestamp coloring
15:24.51phybermoment.
15:25.14CIA-1103ammo * r10212 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua:
15:25.15CIA-11BigWigs (Kelthuzad):
15:25.15CIA-11* Added warning for Detonate mana, 5 second bar and icon placement
15:26.13DarkImakuniCan I add other libraries to AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new(), like :new("Dewdrop-2.0", "Tablet-2.0")?
15:26.29nevcairielyeah
15:26.30[Ammo]if they can be mixin'd yeah
15:26.51DarkImakunicheers nev
15:28.26DarkImakuniwhat do you mean by 'mixin'd', Ammo?
15:28.49DarkImakuniyou mean like AceOO.Mixin{ <stuff> }?
15:29.28vhaarrno
15:29.34vhaarrwhat you demonstrated there was mixin
15:29.40vhaarr:new("Tablet-2.0")
15:30.15DarkImakuniright
15:30.27CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10213 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
15:30.28CIA-11Denial2:
15:30.28CIA-11- Added usage string for msg text option.
15:30.28CIA-11- Removed commented out hooking code.
15:32.35nevcairielyou should move that options stuff inside the class .. like in OnInitialize .. now its erroring about "self" :)
15:32.59phyberwhat's the message?
15:33.10phyberit shouldn't matter if the options are in OnInitialize or not :/
15:33.24nevcairielline33: attempt to index global "self" (a nil value)
15:33.32phyberalthough, that is where I put them in my other mods.
15:33.45phyberbah, right.
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15:35.58nevcairielmeh, i need to apply for svn access .. who would i have to contact ?
15:36.26DarkImakuniI take it Dewdrop can't be Mixin'd... doesn't say anything in the Ace Wiki...
15:38.01CIA-1103rophy * r10214 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.toc core.lua gui.lua): SimpleCombatLog - added AceDebug-2.0 to TOC.
15:38.01Thiananevcairiel, Cladhaire
15:38.18nevcairielthanks
15:38.58CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10215 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
15:38.58CIA-11Denial2:
15:38.58CIA-11- Moved options registration into OnInitialize function.
15:39.31CIA-1103rabbit * r10216 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs: Kel'Thuzad: Syntax error.
15:39.58nevcairielwell, at least thats fixed :)
15:40.19oxmanhaste no
15:40.26nevcairielphyber: 242: attempt to call global `subst` ( a nil value )
15:40.28nevcairieleh
15:40.29nevcairielsubstr
15:40.54hasteoxman: hrmf, I remember adding it tho' =\
15:41.04CIA-1103rabbit * r10217 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs: Add Kel'Thuzad to the TOC.
15:41.23oxmanwait few minutes haste
15:42.04oxmani can confirm
15:42.05nevcairielphyber: replace substr with string.sub
15:42.07oxmanyou don't use it
15:42.29oxmanin fact you do haste
15:42.32oxman_G["GroupLootFrame"..i.."Timer"]:SetStatusBarTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\oSkin\\textures\\glaze")
15:42.35oxmanbut like that
15:42.43oxmannot with the oSkin function
15:42.47grzesieqdoes anyone know a site like ctprofiles but faster?
15:42.48oxmanand the look is different
15:42.54CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10218 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
15:42.54CIA-11Denial2:
15:42.54CIA-11- substr -> string.substr
15:42.59phyberah, just .sub?
15:43.04hastenot my fault people adding functions and don't update the old code oxman :3
15:43.11nevcairielits working with just .sub .. :)
15:43.16nevcairieldunno if there is substr as well
15:43.32oxmanhaste but the look is different
15:43.55CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10219 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
15:43.55CIA-11Denial2:
15:43.55CIA-11- oops, string.sub()
15:44.26nevcairielgreat, gryphon master is working now
15:44.45phyber:D
15:45.27CIA-1103rabbit * r10220 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs: Kelthuzad: I don't like using |type| as a variable name.
15:46.33nevcairiellooks good
15:47.51phybercool.  just need to fix the functions for toggling the options.
15:48.46phyberI hope UnregisterAllEvents() doesn't give an error if nothing is registered yet ;)
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15:54.34Kaeltennew logo on the wiki, what you guys think?
15:54.36evlIndustrial: stuff missing in .toc for idChat2 ain't there?
15:54.45hasteoxman: I'll look into it later today, if no one does it before me :3
15:55.17oxmanok
15:55.37DarkImakuniAceWIki or WoWWiki?
15:55.52CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10221 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
15:55.52CIA-11Denial2:
15:55.52CIA-11- Now checks if you wanted to block all events when registering events.
15:55.55DarkImakunithe new AceWiki rules
15:56.04Kebinusanooo the big KT gets a spot in bigwigs, cool
15:56.06hasteKaelten: I don't like the bevel effect :<
15:56.19KaeltenDarkImakuni: AceWiki :)
15:56.44Kaeltenhaste: hrm?  on all the words or just on the bottom one?
15:56.56hasteall
15:57.15hasteI can see if I can find my old photoshop CDs
15:57.33hasteI did a lot of web design before :p
15:57.33KaeltenI'm not profeciant at photoshop by any means
15:57.50KaeltenI can send you the fonts if you wanna take a go at it.
15:57.54Kebinusanyeah the text is a bit wonky to read, but the colors look good
15:58.12KaeltenKebinusan: the text on the logo or the text in general?
15:58.18Kebinusanon the logo
15:58.21hasteKaelten: I have to find the photoshop CDs fist, and see how well it works on the laptop
15:58.32Kaeltenhehe, true
15:58.56Kaeltenhaste you can download a 30 day trial of the newest one from adobe
15:59.12evlno problems with photoshop on the lappy
15:59.24hasteKaelten: I haven't used it since the 6.0 version tho', still the same?
15:59.27phyberbbl.
15:59.30Kaeltenum... nope
15:59.32Kaeltennot even close
15:59.40hasteevl: well, my laptop is a Pentium III 700Mhz with 128MB Ram
15:59.45evllol, newb
15:59.48evlyou live in AFRICA!
16:00.01HealthHaha
16:00.05hasteI have a hot computer running Linux at least!
16:00.13Kaeltenlol and I can send you the psd file for that graphics too
16:00.17Kebinusanjust use gimp
16:00.32CIA-1103rabbit * r10222 10SpellCacheLib/ (. SpellCacheLib.toc): SpellCacheLib: Added TOC and svn:externals.
16:00.50hasteKebinusan: Seriously, I can't handle the gimp :(
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16:01.26evlIMGO
16:01.36evlIMHO even, all that hunters need is a Lüger in the fucking neck
16:01.45Kebinusan./signed
16:01.50Tuplad:O
16:01.50haste/signed
16:01.54evlAtleast that feign + ft stuff
16:02.00evlit's not meant to be that way
16:02.06NeronixFriends convinced me to try one out
16:02.08Tupladas a random nub in general would say: It's fine, l2p
16:02.18NeronixI'm onyl lv7 and I'm having a ton of fun
16:02.24Kebinusanscatter shot, imp concussive shot, pets with intimidation and a .7 attack speed
16:02.27Neronixthough I'm arguably imba
16:02.30DarkImakunimeh, I'm rolling a Warlock when BC comes out
16:02.37KebinusanOnly thing I hate worse than hunters are shaman
16:02.39GngskBE Female Paladin FTW!
16:02.44TupladKebinusan: everyone is
16:02.53LH|Taubea, there´s one solition for the hunter problem: confine all hunters to hunetr-only AVs und all is fine, no need to l2p any longer
16:03.02hasteKebinusan: I have a shaman, and it sucks so hard to play PvE end-game that I might delete it out of hatred
16:03.19TupladLH|Taube: omg @ spelling
16:03.19CIA-1103rabbit * r10223 10SpellCacheLib/SpellCacheLib.toc: SpellCacheLib: TOC: Set svn:keywords.
16:03.27Gngskhaste, but that dress is so hot :<
16:03.28tumetomKebinusan I play a hunter and it sucks, too :-P
16:03.42Kebinusan<-- Lock4Life  holla
16:03.43Tupladhaste: trade ? I'd take a shaman anyday :>
16:03.55NeronixDoes proximity lib only work for friendly targets?
16:03.57hasteTuplad: go put a finger up your ass
16:04.06LH|TaubeTuplad: yeah, trying to type in a foreign language and cook some decent food at the same time tends to have strange results
16:04.15KebinusanNeronix, I believe so
16:04.19Kebinusannot sure though
16:04.22Tupladhaste: :o
16:04.28TupladLH|Taube: :D
16:04.39KaeltenI made the logo a little bit easier to read
16:04.40DarkImakuniI play a Hunter and I never get taken anywhere... but when I play as a nub Tauren Druid I get invited to all sorts of places... o.O
16:04.47KebinusanI think you'd have to check something like 'IsActionUsable' to bar switch
16:05.01evlAhhh
16:05.06NeronixKebinusan: Looks like it :(
16:05.09evlcoded 4 addons at work, all of them actually work without bugs :D
16:05.54LH|TaubeDark: go to any random farm spot and watch out for hunter bots. you´ll know why they are hated, you´ll downlaod some bots yourself and reroll a decent class thats actually useful to a group
16:05.59tumetomNeronix btw No Hunter realy needs switching action abrs
16:06.13KebinusanTranquil Shot is why hunters get invited on raids :-)
16:06.31TupladMy bro rolled a Priest just to PvP, he got it to 42, when he comes people fight about where he'll go with them
16:06.36Kebinusangive rogues a tranquilizing poison and we can get rid of them
16:06.40TupladHealer classes are in need
16:06.56TupladAltough, when I rolled Boulderfist they were in need of Rogues lol. They were like warlocks and priests
16:06.59evlhaste: were you gonna convert gonff or should i take a stab at it?
16:07.24Kebinusanevl, convert acetimers and me love you long time
16:07.25hasteevl: I was going to, but kinda hooked on Ranma atm :o
16:07.27CIA-1103nimbal * r10224 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
16:07.27CIA-11Druidcom:
16:07.27CIA-11-Fixed error on line 604
16:07.32LH|Taubeaside from a bit hunetr flaming, can anyone answer me this: is PerfectTargets related to Perfect Raid Targets in any way? just stumbled over it while scanning thru the svn
16:07.32Neronixtumetom: I'd think the idea rather handy. I could have all my key melee skills AND my key range skills on my most-reachable keys
16:07.43TupladLH|Taube: PerfectTargets = PerfectRaidTargets
16:07.54TupladLH|Taube: PRT got renamed to PR
16:07.57TupladPT*
16:08.11Neronixhmm, can PT be used in 5mans or BGs?
16:08.12evlhaste: i have to do MC now :(
16:08.14LH|Taubekk, was just wondering about the hp bar there
16:08.21hasteevl: I have do to something soonish also
16:08.24Neronixhell, how does it actually work in the first place?
16:08.27hastenot sure what, it only says "raid"
16:08.31tumetomNeronix sooo what skills are you thinking about?
16:09.11Tupladso what's Bartender2_Dreamlayout about ?
16:09.35LH|TaubeTuplad: check the thread. it´s the skin that was requested on page 1
16:09.40Neronixtumetom: Say, at range I can have 1 = autoshot, 2 = arcane shot, etc.
16:09.50TupladLH|Taube: thread ? :o
16:09.51Neronixand in melee, 1 = autoattack, 2 = wing clip, etc.
16:09.57tumetomyou need raptor >5 yards as well
16:10.08evlhaste: another question is why gonffbar is 800 lines :o
16:10.14sbumeh, wheres maia :/
16:10.16sbu~seen maia
16:10.33purlmaia <n=maia@62-99-165-104.dynamic.adsl-line.inode.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 18h 14m 3s ago, saying: 'tumetom: I'm very sure it's the error. '.
16:10.33NeronixI'm just looking at how Bongos' implementation works
16:10.33hasteevl: Why do you ask me?
16:10.33Neronixwhich seems to check whether wing clip and autoshot are usable
16:11.05LH|TaubeTuplad: http://wow.reaktio.net/mu.jpg
16:11.34TupladLH|Taube: ooo, porn!
16:11.58LH|Taubeno pet bar skin yet =(
16:12.06Neronixtumetom: Raptor >5? It doesn't have a range per se
16:12.17Neronixconsidering it's a on-next-melee thing
16:12.17CIA-1103rabbit * r10225 10SpellStatusLib/ (. SpellStatusLib.toc): SpellStatusLib: Add TOC and set svn externals.
16:12.29Neronixso it'd be 5 yards
16:13.12hasteevl: It's 'cause of: frame creation, defaults, dewdrop
16:13.29hasteevl: oh, and chat cmds
16:13.40CIA-1103ammo * r10226 10CandyBar/Libs/: CandyBar: compost2.0 external added
16:14.57KebinusanThink clad would mind if I commited the bantobar texture to perfectraid?
16:15.25Neronixif it was optional, it'd be perfect
16:15.31Kebinusanyeah it is
16:15.40[Ammo]I don't think he'd mind
16:16.10NeronixI'll second the motion too
16:16.13oxmanyou can Kebinusan
16:16.18CIA-1103kebinusan * r10227 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua Textures/BantoBar.tga): PerfectRaid: Added option for BantoBar texture
16:16.21NeronixSpeaking of PR, is PR2 usable yet?
16:16.22oxmancommit also an option to use glaz from oSkin
16:16.23oxman:p
16:16.31[Ammo]add it to the branches Ace2 version as well
16:16.50Kebinusanyeah I was going to download that next and add it
16:19.19Gngskwhat's this bantobar?
16:19.23CIA-1103moonsorrow * r10228 10idChat2/:
16:19.23CIA-11idChat2:
16:19.23CIA-11- added AceHook as external
16:19.26[Ammo]sexy texture :)
16:19.32LH|Taubehm. what is that bantobar everyone is talking about?
16:19.51Gngskomg!
16:19.55[Ammo]currently also the default CandyBar texture
16:19.59Gngskit's just a texture then?
16:20.01Gngskahh, cool
16:20.17Kebinusanyeah sec I have a screenie
16:20.42Kebinusanhttp://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot090406155042gq6.jpg
16:20.56Tupladwowi kaput?
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16:21.14NeronixTuplad: sort of. Spam refresh
16:21.22TupladKebinusan: looks sexy, the UI I mean
16:21.50TupladKebinusan: when I grow up I want to be just like you :O
16:21.59Kebinusanpfft
16:22.28Tupladyou have that texture everywhere ?
16:22.28Tupladpooooorn!
16:22.36Kebinusanyeah pretty much
16:22.38Kebinusanheh
16:22.46TupladMay I have your EBB then ? :>
16:22.55Tupladand SWStats :o
16:23.30sbuhmm - why is every screenshot i see in here from either warlock or priest? :o
16:23.34LH|Taubethe reskinned ebb looks pretty, yes
16:23.42KebinusanEbb needs an option to change the bar texture
16:23.44Tupladsbu: I was wondering the same
16:24.07KebinusanI just replaced the bartexture.tga with BantoBar
16:24.20LH|Taubesbu: this 2 classes, and hunter, are the only one who really need to work on their ui. i mean, c´mon, rogues, warriors and druids, how much buttons do you use there
16:24.21Kebinusangive me a minute though, I can at least zip that up for you
16:24.26TupladKebinusan: <3
16:24.33snurreding exalted with thorium brotherhood o.O
16:24.38TupladLH|Taube: I play a Rogue, I work alot on my UI
16:24.44Gngskthought elkano was rewriting ebb with ace2/candybar
16:24.49TupladGngsk: omg!!!!
16:24.53sbuLH|Taube: hunter ui? :o its autoshot, tranq and feign death ;p
16:25.05sbuand macro for "need! hunteritem!"
16:25.14CIA-1103kebinusan * r10229 10XRS/ (XRS.lua images/BantoBar.tga): XRS: Added BantoBar texture option
16:25.26snurrewee :p
16:25.32sbubantobar?
16:25.32snurrenow i dont have to use my hacked xrs :p
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16:25.48LH|Taubesbu: right you are, but must hunters need to mature to notice that, bevore they clutter around with aspect bars, radar bars, and moste of all epeen-dmg-meters ^^
16:26.03sbuhehe
16:26.10sbuoh nice, i need bantobars ;o
16:26.28LH|Taubeis it just me or is xrs eating away a lot of performance?
16:26.58sbudont care since i saved ~40mb mem usage be replacing some addons ;)
16:27.00TupladLH|Taube: /me doesnt care. If it's done by FtH|eagle it should be good =D
16:28.33silver1499i've been experimenting w/ diff ui's. i've ended up w/ nurfed, but am not 100% in love w it. anyone have any suggestions?
16:29.03LH|Taubesilver1499: depends on what you´re looking for.
16:29.14Tupladsilver1499: just look for mods that fit you ...
16:29.14[Ammo]using a complete UI package is silly imho
16:29.18Tuplad^ what he said
16:29.24[Ammo]just get the addons that you like
16:29.35LH|Taubebut a first step´d be to replace N action bars with bongos and N huf with Archud
16:29.45LH|Taube*hud
16:29.51silver1499minimalistic, easy to setup raid windows is the biggest factor. easy to switch toolbars
16:30.01Tupladsilver1499: PerfectRaid
16:30.03Tupladsilver1499: Bartender
16:30.08Tupladsilver1499: just go browse the svn ?
16:30.20Tupladyou can find alot of mod pornography there
16:30.21FtH|eaglehey kebinusan, I had that texture in my local copy already :P
16:30.28FtH|eagleand 2 others
16:30.51silver1499well its hard to tell whats crap unless you try out everything or get opinions.. thx will try those though
16:30.53LH|Taubesilver: what Tuplad said, backup your Interface and WTF folders and take a stroll in the svn
16:30.58FtH|eagleLH|Taube: proove me that xrs is using a lot of performance
16:31.13Tupladsilver1499: ever tried reading tocs ?
16:31.20Tupladsilver1499: if it's Ace, it's not crap ;>
16:31.33LH|Taubeeagle: can do that later, when i have time to do a bit raiding
16:31.48FtH|eaglekib/s should be at 0
16:31.56FtH|eagleI've done some tests
16:31.57silver1499Tuplad: nope
16:32.07Tupladsilver1499: laugh now, cry later
16:32.19FtH|eagleand with an update timer of 1, you shouldn't ever notice it
16:32.23LH|Taubeeagle: me2, only used praid und xrs and had "hickup" around 16kibs
16:33.12LH|Taubeand that was rather strange
16:35.06LH|Taubeah, i take back everything i said, flipping thru the screenies. guess i know what went wrong
16:35.32IndustrialWooooo first day of school. Stoned.
16:35.48[Ammo]you'll get far in life Id
16:36.19snurregg, tortoisesvn just locked up some directories for me, so cant do anything in my PerfectRaid folder :/
16:36.41evltodays guild name: <We Pee in the Moonwells>
16:36.46snurreold :(
16:37.06TupladIndustrial: what [Ammo] said ...
16:37.24Industrialactually im done for this year thank you
16:37.32IndustrialI did all my work
16:38.11silver1499i've never used SVN, anything for a mac? tortoisesvn is all windows
16:38.20Industrialsvn
16:38.21Industrial:p
16:38.22Kebinusan<STDs are BOP>
16:38.36FISKER_Qbtw [Ammo] with !!!Libraries do you know how i make candybar not bug out with transparent bars?
16:38.37HealthYou can just go to http://svn.wowace.com/files/
16:38.55Industrial!!!Libraries? that sounds very evil whats it
16:39.08FISKER_Qit's the libraries compilation on svn
16:39.09silver1499yay links! googling wasn't coming up w/ anything
16:39.33FISKER_Qit's screwing up with candybars so my bigwigs candybars are transparent
16:39.35Tupladsilver1499: omfg, read the tocs
16:39.41Tupladsilver1499: even I can do that :P
16:39.43Tuplad~tuplad
16:39.50purlsomebody said tuplad was the local troll
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16:39.55silver1499my apologies
16:39.59silver1499: )
16:40.07Tuplad:>
16:40.19[Ammo]Fisker: you can't fix it, download the CandyBar lib folder with .toc
16:40.24[Ammo]!!!libraries sucks
16:40.26[Ammo]and is crap
16:40.29[Ammo]end of story
16:40.29FISKER_Q;(
16:40.37FISKER_Qbut if i don't get it a lot other addons are breaking
16:40.39TupladKebinusan: so how about SWStats and EBB ? ;<
16:40.42snurrelol wtf.. my AddOns\PerfectRaid\Textures\ folder is untouchable
16:40.57SarozWTF is this bantobar
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16:41.05FISKER_QCandyBar-r10226.zip
16:41.05TupladSaroz: rtfm, texture :D
16:41.06snurrejump the hype, Saroz!
16:41.07FISKER_Qthat one right?
16:41.10[Ammo]yeah
16:41.12FISKER_Qok
16:41.12[Ammo]just get that
16:41.13KebinusanTupload yeah I changed swstats and I cant test it atm, cause all I did before was change one of the other textures
16:41.14SarozI know Tuplad
16:41.19[Ammo]it's a seperate lib with .toc
16:41.21SarozGive SS
16:41.22Kebinusanhttp://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot090406155042gq6.jpg
16:41.24Sarozor it isn't happening
16:41.29Kebinusan^^^ screenshot
16:41.32Sarozhrrrm
16:41.37SarozI dig it
16:41.55TupladKebinusan: just giev ;<
16:42.38snurreooh, changing texture on my elkbuffbar
16:42.57LH|TaubeTuplad: not much to giev there. make a serach for Banto* on your Addons folder, then copy that to sw stats and ebb, replacing the exsting basrs there
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16:43.32TupladLH|Taube: dude, I can replace textures -_-"
16:43.40snurrelies
16:43.54Sarozdetox is broken
16:43.55Sarozbah
16:44.00LH|Taubehehe, then sorry for the lecture ;)
16:44.01Sarozcan't find rosterlib
16:44.21vhaarrSaroz: wut?
16:44.35SarozCannot find an instance of RosterLib-2.0
16:44.42SarozDetox.lua:19
16:44.47Kebinusanhttp://www.simplicity-guild.com/Updates/ElkBuffBar-Banto.zip
16:44.51yacoobYay, down to 28 megs :)
16:44.52Tuplad<3333333333
16:45.07yacoobNeronix: and yes, Bongos did the trick
16:45.09FISKER_Qammo will i also have to remove candybar from !!!libraries for it to work properly?
16:45.12vhaarrSaroz: that's bullshit
16:45.17snurreFISKER_Q: yep
16:45.19Saroz*shrug*
16:45.37KebinusanIm not sure if Swstats will work the way I just changed it though my realm isnt up
16:45.38Sarozye vhaarr, I made it up.. I'm that bored.. rly
16:45.46Saroz(no)
16:46.02vhaarrI did say you were bullshitting
16:46.04TupladKebinusan: let me test
16:46.07vhaarrI said the error was bullshit
16:46.10Kebinusanhttp://www.simplicity-guild.com/Updates/SW_Stats-Banto.zip  if it works it should be bar texture 11
16:46.23Saroz*shrug*
16:46.29vhaarrerr
16:46.33vhaarrs/I did/I did not/
16:46.35vhaarr^^
16:46.36snurrei just replaced texture10
16:46.41snurrewith banto
16:46.49Kebinusansnure yeah thats what I did first
16:47.24Kebinusanprobably what I will end up doing again
16:47.32TupladKebinusan: <3
16:47.42vhaarrckknight: where have you hidden the Dewdrop oSkin? ;)
16:48.00Tupladhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3752.jpg omfg
16:48.17Sarozugly
16:48.51Tupladwurd
16:49.13snurreway too many small details
16:49.22snurreand crap unitframes
16:49.39LH|Taubetypical mouse-only interface
16:49.45CIA-1103neronix * r10230 10!!!Libraries/Libs/: !!!Libraries - Fixed SpellCache-1.0 path
16:50.15yacoobHm.
16:50.18phyberback.
16:50.28yacoobIs anyone working on the ora2-mt-clique plugin?
16:50.39oxmanurl don't work here :(
16:50.47oxmanno, is it buggy yacoob ?
16:50.50CIA-1103grimwald 07Grimwald * r10231 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/Optional/Buff.lua:
16:50.51CIA-11oRA2_Buff:
16:50.51CIA-11* buffs table:
16:50.51CIA-11<PROTECTED>
16:50.51CIA-11<PROTECTED>
16:50.51CIA-11* moved more init code to OnInitialize()
16:50.53CIA-11* UnitIsUnit(unitID, "player") is better than unitID == "player"...
16:51.30yacooboxman: I do not know whether it exists, last time I read it was in ora2 TODO :D
16:52.04oxmanyou can see now an option in ora2 to enable/disable this for mt
16:52.04oxman:p
16:52.21Sarozwhy doesn't any unit frames have OTTT?
16:52.22Sarozffs
16:52.28oxman?
16:52.37Saroz-O
16:52.45NeronixSaroz: Nurfed does
16:52.47Sarozye
16:52.48Sarozusing it
16:52.50Sarozneed replacement
16:52.52oxmanin my point of view, its useless..
16:52.57yacooboxman: mmm, good.
16:52.59Neronixyou can make one in agUF by doing aUF:CreateUnit(<stuff>)
16:53.01Sarozit's awesome
16:53.08yacoob(now = with latest svn zip? :)
16:53.09oxmangive me an example
16:53.16Sarozneed to see who takes aggro
16:53.22Neronixand oUF2 by doing... I forgot what its new unit func's called
16:53.29Sarozgot MT targetted, MT has mob targetted, mob targets nub mage.. mage has aggro
16:53.30oxmanora2 mt do that Saroz
16:53.34oxmanyou don't need more
16:53.40SarozI do
16:53.54LH|Taubettt is only good for healers, i guess, targetting the mt, tt = mob, ttt = aggro switch, i gues
16:53.56oxmanso your raid isn't nice :)
16:54.02oxmani never use ttt
16:54.03SarozI heal
16:54.05oxmanand i'm healer...
16:54.19oxmani focus on mt, or raid
16:54.31Saroznurfed ftw I guess
16:54.54LH|Taubeguess it comes down on the amount of crosshealing you do
16:54.55Sarozneed to replace the action bars aswell
16:55.04oxmanBartender2 ?
16:55.04oxman:p
16:55.12Sarozyea, just need to be arsed
16:57.26silver1499saroz: i have to have ttt as well. and havent found anything that beats nurfed
16:58.42FtH|eagle[Ammo]: if an addon uses bigwigs_sendtell, is this suppressed by the whisper block?
16:58.58FISKER_Qdunno if this is a stupid question but what does ora2's maintanks do?
16:59.07Mikmaolé!
16:59.27FISKER_QYou got like 10 maintanks in CT_RA, but i can't see how this works in oRA2
16:59.31oxmanwait
16:59.35oxmani try something with aguf about ttt
16:59.48CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10232 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
16:59.48CIA-11Denial2:
16:59.49CIA-11- Using a :Hook again for the GossipFrame. Without this you see the gossip chat for a split second. Which is one split second too many.
16:59.52oxmanhow this works ? explain
17:00.20hastephyber: what do you hook?
17:00.27phyberhaste: GossipFrame_OnEvent
17:00.40phyberto check if the event == GOSSIP_SHOW
17:00.49hasteyeh, figured out the last part :p
17:00.52phyberif I just do that with a RegisterEvent, it works, but it's slower :)
17:01.05hastewhat about unregistering the event from the gossipframe?
17:01.28phyberunregistering who from the what now? :o
17:01.40CIA-1103rabbit * r10233 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/BigWigs_HealbotAssist.lua: BigWigs_HealbotAssist: Notify the raid when someone heals about who is next.
17:01.52hasteGOSSIP_SHOW from the OnEvent handler that opens it?
17:01.56NeronixGossipFrame:UnregisterEvent("GOSSIP_SHOW")
17:02.08hastewhat he said!
17:02.27Neronixand bob is most certainly your mother's brother
17:02.43hastenah =\
17:02.48evlAnywhere I can read about PErfectRaid and the letters on the right of the bars?:P
17:03.05hasteevl: the topic / wowi thingy?
17:03.26evlah,, wiki is up
17:03.45oxmansorry Saroz, i've try a quick fix for ttt in aguf without sucess
17:04.05Tupladphyber: so, did you work on the total bandwidth for netstatsfu ? :p
17:05.17FISKER_Qoxman i mean there's no way to set which maintank number in oRA2 right?
17:05.29[Ammo]ofcourse you can
17:05.31[Ammo]you
17:05.39[Ammo]you all need to read what I write more clearly
17:05.48[Ammo]and comprehend it
17:06.08Sarozoxman :(
17:06.50phyberTuplad: not yet.  but I'll get there
17:06.52oxmanFISKER_Q you can :)
17:06.54Tupladphyber: good ;>
17:06.55oxman"number name"
17:06.55oxman:)
17:07.00oxman"3 oxman"
17:07.17oxman[Ammo] about RosterLib, its case sensitive, isn't good to input the tank name :/
17:07.17[Ammo]it's all because of the bloody fubar plugin
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17:07.31[Ammo]ora2maintank is case senstive too
17:07.33[Ammo]live with it
17:07.39oxmanits a problem
17:07.40oxman:p
17:08.03FISKER_Qah
17:08.08FISKER_Qsorry [Ammo] :)
17:08.09haste[Ammo]: strcap the name they enter maybe?
17:08.29hastequick solution for 'lazy' and 'stupid' people :3
17:08.29FISKER_Qdidn't know what you meant with "read what i write" since it didn't say anything in Fubar :)
17:09.11[Ammo]I typed the solution on here and on the forum 10x already
17:09.40FISKER_Qeven more sorry for that, haven't been around there then :(
17:09.47oxmanno haste RosterLib must be changer to be case insensitive
17:09.52oxmanyou can't do that in oRa2
17:09.54oxmani've look :p
17:10.09oxmanRosterLib mut save two instance of the name
17:10.12hasteoxman: but you can change it so if someone enter: nick it turns into: Nick, and so on
17:10.14oxmanthe key of the array in lower case
17:10.19oxmanand normal nick in the array of the nick
17:10.47oxmanlike roster[lower(nick)] = {a = "b", b = "b", nick = nick}
17:11.00oxmanits true haste
17:11.03oxmani can change that :)
17:11.09oxmanbecause there is always ONE caps
17:11.11oxmanand its the first letter
17:11.12oxman:)
17:11.51[Ammo]oxman: just type in the bloody name right, or target the person and just enter the number
17:12.04[Ammo]until I've come up with a better solution
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17:12.26oxmandewdrop need more features :p
17:13.53LH|Taubeas a sidenote: when you can add bantobar to praid, so too should it be added to pt for a consistent look of the bars
17:14.07Tupladidchat kapuuuuuuuut
17:14.11Tupladacemodulecore doesnt exist or something
17:14.24Mikmayou don't exist!
17:14.47IndustrialTekkub, ping?
17:15.01TupladMikma: die
17:15.08Mikmayou wish
17:15.14Tupladoh yes
17:15.16Industrialbet he does :P
17:15.21Tuplad;>
17:15.26IndustrialTuplad, yeah im not giving any guarantees
17:15.27Tupladdreamlayout is porn tho
17:15.37Industrialwuts that
17:15.57TupladBT2
17:16.06TupladIndustrial: but crap @ idChat2 broken ;<
17:16.32IndustrialTuplad, yeah im not giving any guarantees
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17:16.41Industrialwhats BT2? url?
17:17.00MikmaIndustrial: bartender2 dreamlayout
17:17.12TupladIndustrial: bartender2 -_-
17:17.19TupladIndustrial: but what's AceModuleCore anyway ? :O
17:17.20IndustrialTuplad, stupid abbreviations
17:17.27CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10234 10Denial2/Denial2.lua:
17:17.27CIA-11Denial2:
17:17.27CIA-11- Check if GossipFrame_OnEvent is already hooked on :OnEnable to prevent 'is already hooked' error when we change a 'block' option.
17:17.31Industrialits part of ace2
17:17.36Tupladhmm
17:18.00Industrialhey the wiki got a skin
17:18.10Industrial^^
17:18.17TupladIndustrial: AceModuleCore-2.0 is in libs folder but it says it doesnt exist >:|
17:18.36Industrialyeah ill go take look
17:18.50Tupladplease do
17:19.36TupladKaelten: no Russian translation for OneBag :P
17:20.11IndustrialTuplad, make one
17:20.26MikmaruRU
17:20.27Mikmakekek
17:22.06Industrialdun dun dun dun >_<
17:22.19haste:o
17:22.44LH|Taubehehe
17:22.47Industrialwow, feindflug, what a typo
17:24.07TupladIndustrial: I will ;>
17:24.16Industrialgood
17:24.23hasteit will eat the WoW font!
17:25.19JoshBorkewho's the dev for CandyBars?
17:25.28Industrialsomeone edited the idChat2 external and fixed a really bad error. who is it :>
17:25.49Kaeltenlooking at this page: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
17:25.51JoshBorkeIndustrial: in idUnitwatch there seems to be some bugs with the leadership attribute
17:25.56hastecheck the logs?
17:25.58Kaeltendo you guys think I should make the code/quote blocks colored?
17:26.30hastethe contents box?
17:26.37IndustrialIs it possible to color code the actual lua code?
17:26.42FtH|eagleme industrial
17:26.44Industriallike pastebins
17:26.50IndustrialFtH|eagle, thanks
17:26.52FtH|eaglenp
17:27.02yacoob:D
17:27.05yacoobhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2369575710885101254&q=thrall+all+your+base
17:27.25MikmaKaelten: who did that page?
17:27.41KaeltenIndustrial: that would be cool, I'll check
17:27.47KaeltenMikma: I think pprovost
17:29.00Industrialhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2663528007582724732
17:29.07Industrialomg alizee - you can be my night elf! :P
17:29.12evlAny "target MT target" bind in oRA2?
17:29.54CIA-1103kebinusan 07Ace2 * r10235 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (3 files in 2 dirs): PerfectRaid: Added BantoBar texture option to Ace2 Branch
17:30.14eternally777Is it ok to define compost as MyAddon.compost = AceLibrary("Compost-2.0")?  Or is it better to do local compost = AceLibrary("Compost-2.0")?
17:30.28oxmanKebinusan , actually praid ace2 have all functions of praid ace ?
17:30.34MikmaKebinusan: you REALLY like that texture? D:
17:30.49Kebinusanheh someone requested it be added there
17:31.05Mikmasoon we will se cladhaires commit "stay off my addons!"
17:31.15oxmanxD
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17:34.40Kebinusansomeday someone will code a texture lib and then it'd just be one commit
17:34.57Kaeltena texture lib?
17:34.59Kaeltenwhatcha mean keb?
17:35.18bindibleh
17:35.22bindianyone tested druidcom?
17:35.37oxmanKebinusan we've talk about that few days agoy
17:35.39oxmanago
17:35.39oxman:)
17:35.44Kebinusanwell we have all these addons that use different bar textures and you end up commiting a bunch of different places to add a texture... itd be nice to have a library or something where you could add a new texture
17:36.07MikmaKaelten: "one texturelib to rule them all!"
17:36.08Kebinusanso all addons allowing you to set textures for bars could take advantage of it
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17:36.57evlbindi: what is druidcom?
17:36.58Kaeltenso an embedable skinning library ?
17:37.06evl"Yes, I'm in bear now over."
17:37.11bindiit should manage your innervates and combatresses
17:37.15evl"yes, there's shit stuck to my fur, please assist, over"
17:37.20evloh, lol :D
17:37.21KebinusanYeah, I guess it would be something like that
17:37.29bindiits nice
17:37.32bindiif it would work
17:37.35bindiweird
17:37.39binditesting it in mc tonight
17:37.59KaeltenKebinusan: sounds neat.
17:38.25CIA-1103nimbal * r10236 10Druidcom/ (5 files): (log message trimmed)
17:38.25CIA-11Druidcom:
17:38.25CIA-11-extracted defaultsTable
17:38.26CIA-11-restructured DB (wrapping table "settings" removed)
17:38.26CIA-11-restructured XML (title bar, more cleaner)
17:38.26CIA-11-added "reset" command
17:38.27CIA-11-fixed dropdown-minimizing-closing-showing nil error
17:38.28Kaeltenwhen oyu going to have it finisheD?
17:38.31Kaelten;)
17:38.36bindiow
17:38.38bindiupdate :p
17:38.39bindilets get it ^^
17:38.54Kebinusanlol I lack the lua skills to do something like that
17:42.21Industrialevl, lol on the bear joke
17:42.26CIA-1103nimbal * r10237 10Druidcom/DruidcomDruidTemplate.xml:
17:42.26CIA-11Druidcom:
17:42.26CIA-11-oops, forgot an added xml file in previous revision
17:42.35Mikmaxml?
17:43.16Mikmaright some ui or so
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17:45.42Laricis it perfecttarget that has those nice mt frames etc?
17:45.44FISKER_Qbtw new candybar looks sweet
17:47.34CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r10238 10Denial2/Denial2.toc:
17:47.34CIA-11Denial2:
17:47.34CIA-11- Fixed SavedVariables name in TOC.
17:47.37evlIndustrial: there's some missing stuff in idChat2 toc
17:47.44evlIndustrial: AceModuleCore isn't listed
17:48.42Industrialwhehehe I was waiting or that
17:48.46Industrialno wait hmm
17:48.52CIA-1103kebinusan 07Kergoth * r10239 10ElkBuffBar/ (ElkBuffBar.lua ElkBuffBar.toc textures/BantoBar.tga): ElkBuffBar: Added Bantobar to Kergoths EBB branch since it allows for different textures
17:48.57IndustrialI could swear I put it in :|
17:50.00evlWhat was the anme of that LFG filter mod?
17:50.10CIA-1103id * r10240 10idChat2/idChat2.toc: idChat2: Added AceModuleCore-2.0 to the toc
17:50.23Industrialevl wasnt that bear fur joke eddie murphies?
17:50.28evlIndustrial: yes
17:50.28Industrialy's*
17:50.45Industrialim looking for that picture of it I had
17:50.48Industrialmmm
17:51.07JoshBorke[Ammo]: would CandyBars be suitable for a castbar type mod?
17:51.51evlahh it was earplug by Neronix da pimp
17:51.52Kebinusanbtw I love the bar on the readycheck
17:52.16TupladIndustrial*
17:52.17Kebinusanwhoever did that
17:52.26[Ammo]I did ofcourse
17:52.33[Ammo]damnit getting invalid key for next errors
17:52.34[Ammo]spamming me
17:53.09JoshBorke[Ammo]: reason i ask is people keep telling me to use CandyBars for HealWatch
17:53.24[Ammo]well it's a bar that ticks down
17:53.33[Ammo]from xx:yy to 0
17:54.35JoshBorkethat's what i was thinking
17:54.44JoshBorkeglad i'm not crazy
17:57.19[Ammo]but there's a reverse mode coming
17:57.19[Ammo]that will have a growing bar
17:57.20[Ammo]so it can behave like a casting bar sorta
17:57.49CIA-1103kebinusan 07Kergoth * r10241 10ElkBuffBar/ElkBuffBar.lua: EBB: Texture actually usable now
17:59.23Neronixlocal f = EnumerateFrames(); while f do if f:GetObjectType() == "StatusBar" then f:SetStatusBarTexture("\\Interface\\Addons\\Kek\\bantobar") end f = EnumerateFrames(f) end
17:59.25NeronixThere you go
17:59.35Neronixsome sexy beast can turn that into an addon
18:01.57evlNeronix: When i do /earplug basic the basic filters aren't on the /earplug list?
18:03.24CIA-1103ammo * r10242 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0: reverting my last change it breaks too much :(
18:04.40Neronixevl: They aren't?
18:04.43NeronixI'll look into it
18:04.49Neronixfor now, you can just add them manually
18:05.10MikmaTekkub: why does my friend always get colored as gray in chats? :D
18:05.27evlNeronix: they work but aren't displayed
18:06.23Sarozis there a mod that shows pot cooldown?
18:07.36hasteSaroz: oCD shows pet cooldowns also
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18:07.50Sarozfuck pets
18:08.02haste<PROTECTED>
18:08.14Sarozhehe
18:08.40hasteI'm going to add that tho'
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18:09.07Neronixevl: No wonder. I'm doing table.getn == 0 then print("omg no filters)
18:09.16Neronixold code from aeons ago
18:09.20evllal :P
18:10.26Mikmaanyone else tested the latest version of Dreamlayout?
18:10.44CIA-1103neronix * r10243 10EarPlug/Earplug.lua: EarPlug - Listing patterns now works
18:10.49NeronixMikma: what does it actually do?
18:10.59MikmaNeronix: makes the actionbars look pretty
18:11.05Mikma(Bartender2 actionbars)
18:11.09Neronix:O
18:11.13Neronixgief ss plx
18:11.58Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/mu.jpg
18:12.04Mikmathis is only bar1 in this photo :P
18:12.11Mikmahaven't had the time to take a better one with all the bars
18:12.23Neronixso it makes gaps as well?
18:12.26Mikmaand the gray spots are hidden when there's no buttons
18:13.19evlIs Fubar heavy?
18:13.24evlIn terms of res usage
18:13.25Mikma1mb+
18:13.41evlI'd like to run Fu_FuXPFu without fubar :P
18:13.44evljust the xp display
18:16.22CIA-1103neronix * r10244 10EarPlug/Earplug.lua: EarPlug - Odd cleanup or 7.2
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18:21.01eternally777So is there anything wrong with defining compost as "MyAddon.compost = AceLibrary("Compost-2.0")"?
18:21.15Neronixno
18:21.53Neronixbut just doing "local compost = AceLibrary("Compost-2.0")" would mean you don't need to index self when accessing compost
18:22.06Neronixan operation that's actually as cheap as chips
18:22.15Neronixso it's a matter of personal preference really
18:22.41eternally777So we're looking at no real performance impact what-so-ever
18:22.53Neronixcorrect
18:22.58sbuhmm, shield + renew works with priest call? (nef)
18:24.49JoshBorkeyes
18:25.14JoshBorkebut when my priest gets to nef, he's so going to dot the shit out of some of the rogues/hunters/mages/warlocks
18:25.23nevcairiellol
18:25.35hastegod I hate retards that does that
18:25.46KebinusanCurse of tounges on nef 4tw
18:25.48JoshBorkeonly the ones who deserve it
18:25.48nevcairieli love it when we have a priest call as the last one, so when nef dies the priests go crazy :p
18:25.57hasteIt's like blowing up people on encounter X
18:26.04ckknighteternally777, using the local is better.
18:26.05Kebinusanalthoguh I dont think you can do that anymore though
18:26.07MikmaBTW! BigWigs2 doesn't remember the anchor positions!
18:27.06ckknightthere is a performance impact when you do self.compost, as there's a LOCAL and a GETTABLE call, which'd be about 3x more expensive than an UPVALUE call.
18:27.56vhaarrbut if it is local it will not be a part of the AceOO object?
18:28.10sbuJoshBorke: so renew doesnt cause dmage?
18:28.14JoshBorkesbu: no
18:28.19vhaarror will it?
18:28.31sbuok
18:29.42hastecool... they translate chinese into broken english, that's evil
18:29.59eternally777Ckk, but will the expense be noticable?
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18:33.46CIA-1103jncl * r10245 10devnull/devnull.lua: /dev/null: changed so that only Local and World Defense, General and LFG channels are muted when entering an Instance/Battleground now, General and LFG can be enabled if required.
18:35.50MikmaWOHOO! T2 finally mine! :D
18:35.54Mikma15% mana regen in combat
18:36.13LH|Taubemikma: 3rd priest t2 piece?
18:36.30MikmaLH|Taube: yeah :D
18:36.40LH|Taubemikma: gz then ;)
18:36.44JoshBorkegrats
18:36.54LH|Taubenow on to vael ^^
18:38.27CIA-1103ammo * r10246 10Detox/Detox.toc: Detox: touched for zip
18:40.07eternally777have to reconfigure my routers, brb
18:41.01sbumh, just got chromaggus boots with 12mp5 :)
18:42.36sbumhhh, whats wrong if bigwigs nefcount bars are transparent?
18:42.42hasteI have those on my sherman :3
18:43.14LH|Taubei just got my repair bill and decided to go farm demonic runes again
18:43.20sbuhehe
18:48.58hastehmm
18:52.26Kebinusansbu, its the !!Libraries thing I think
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18:52.47Mikmayay devnull fix!
18:53.02Mikmadoes it stop now my channels from muting in instance? :D
18:54.02sbuuhoh ;o
18:55.36Kaelten?
19:01.13Neronixckknight: Is autoattack ever going to be deuced?
19:01.38MikmaAutoDeuce?
19:05.36evlautoattack <3
19:05.41evlbut duce <3<43
19:05.42[Ammo]DeuceBigalowAceGigolo
19:05.58hasteevl: Ranma is not healthy :(
19:06.34hasteevl: watched 27 episodes in a row now, now I have to wait for zhe torrent :p
19:07.10vhaarrlol ammo
19:07.40CIA-1103nimbal * r10247 10Druidcom/ (4 files):
19:07.40CIA-11Druidcom:
19:07.40CIA-11-added refresh Time Option
19:07.40CIA-11-SendMessage wrapper added
19:09.25evlhaste: lol, :D
19:09.44evlhaste: there's not way to get fu_xpbarfu to displauy without fubar installed?
19:09.51hasteevl: no idea :3
19:10.35CIA-1103neronix 07otravi * r10248 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/ (Libs/ core.lua textures/BantoBar.tga):
19:10.35CIA-11oCB2
19:10.35CIA-11- Added AceDebug to externals
19:10.35CIA-11- Added BantoBar texture
19:11.42CIA-1103neronix 07otravi * r10249 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/oCB.toc: oCB2 - Added AceDebug to toc
19:16.11Sarozis there a mod that shows pot cooldowns, nicely?
19:17.43Mikmathe Banto looks kinda weird on my comp
19:18.38hasteMikma: I blame LCDs :3
19:18.58Mikmahaste: mm, ok then
19:19.17hasteMikma: I don't like it that much either :3
19:19.28hastebut it might be zhe LCD
19:19.29sbuhm
19:19.39sbuNeronix: cant select bantobar?
19:19.41_icetrainlooks weird on my screen to :)
19:19.42hasteI wouldn't believe so, but meeeh
19:19.48Mikmais ut supposed to have green lines in it?
19:19.53Mikmaat the top and bottom of the bar
19:20.16_icetrainthat's what i dont like about it .. the shade doesnt cover the entire height :)
19:20.32Mikmaaye
19:20.37Mikmalooks rather interesting :P
19:20.40Mikmai'll stick with halcyone
19:22.04Neronixsbu: What happens?
19:22.13sbuhmm dont know, no menu entry
19:22.38sbubut i see that bantobar stuff in core.lua
19:22.41sbustrange
19:22.49sbu(fully restarted game)
19:24.27CIA-1103neronix 07otravi * r10250 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/core.lua: oCB2 - Helps if I actually add the texture to the options...
19:24.39CIA-1103nimbal * r10251 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
19:24.40CIA-11Druidcom:
19:24.40CIA-11-Debug messages added
19:24.42Neronixself:StabInEye()
19:27.40hasteself:Clap()
19:27.59sbu:)
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19:33.03LH|Taubei just throw around some random thoughts now
19:33.15IndustrialTekkub, ping?
19:33.27LH|Taubewhen i started fiddling ´round with my ui at first, it was all about information
19:34.20LH|Tauberesult: a great many numbers, more information than even zeus´ meanads could handle and i didn´t see shit anymore bc all was full with stuff
19:35.18LH|Taubenext incarnation was about minimizing stuff, all needed infrmation in as small and compact places as possible, a bit inspired by beckons pvpriest vids
19:36.23LH|Taubei guess i have that covered now and yes, it looks quite bland. when i see stuff like xart, i really get inspired.
19:36.23Industrialless is more!
19:36.52nevcairieli got rid of XArt just today :)
19:36.56LH|Taubeindustrial: i agree with you there
19:37.29NeronixIs Ace 1.3 in trunk locked to certain people?
19:37.40nevcairielBut i am still using my groupframe in raids .. maybe i should try to play without that
19:37.43Neronixgot a wee optimisation for AceEvent 1.x
19:37.46LH|Taubenev: some1 posted a nice ct_viewport idea on the forums, where the first version just was a oskin-like bar on the lower region. that replaced xart for me
19:37.47nevcairielwould save lots of space
19:37.59sbuuhm
19:38.25sbuNeronix: every time i change texture/size of my oCB its location gets resetted
19:38.55NeronixNot my fault
19:39.00IndustrialIs there anyone up to date on what tekkub is doing with the wiki? Any template I can fill my addon stuff in and are there categories? etc.
19:39.00Neronixpoke haste
19:39.03hastehmm?
19:39.05IndustrialAlso how do I remove pages
19:39.21Neronixall I did was add an entry to a couple of tables
19:39.29NeronixI don't see how that would reset positions
19:39.43CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r10253 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
19:39.43CIA-11AceTab-2.0:
19:39.43CIA-11- Properly falls back to whisper-target cycle if no non-fallback completions are available in whisper mode
19:39.47hastepoke Neronix
19:40.19IndustrialHAHAHAH IM POKING HAHAHAHAHA
19:40.23Industrialo_X
19:40.36hasteI'll go AFK then
19:40.39Neronixhaste: look at the diffs
19:40.54Industrialmaniacally*
19:41.00Neronixhttp://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/e8cbcccbb40827b6/33686f89e1ca8633#33686f89e1ca8633
19:41.02*** join/#wowace Azix (n=Azix@host213-123-205-178.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
19:41.04Neronixhttp://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/c26fa4dfba1d97b8/e30009eb5c127d1d#e30009eb5c127d1d
19:44.45sbubonto ftw :)
19:45.25FtH|eagleLH|Taube: did you test xrs now concerning performance?
19:45.35*** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)
19:45.40LH|Taubei did and i found the error
19:45.56CIA-1103kyahx * r10254 10Necronomicon/Necronomicon.toc: Necronomicon: Toc updated to make a zip.
19:46.03CIA-1103kaelten * r10255 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua:
19:46.03CIA-11Ace2 -
19:46.03CIA-11-Bug fix in set strictness.
19:46.03CIA-11-Added utility function HasInstance(uid) to AceLocale.
19:46.04CIA-11-Added utility function ClearLocales() to the backbone.
19:46.05CIA-11-Fixed a few bugs to allow locale objects to be registered with AceLibrary.
19:46.15FtH|eaglesomething I have to fix?
19:46.39LH|Taubei thouht i only had praid and xrs running and was wondering bout the increase in kib, but i didn´t notice that i had an item check running on a random av raid ^^. so my bad
19:47.12FtH|eaglealright
19:47.23FtH|eagleIf you find any problems, let me know
19:47.26sedatedChipmunkyea, I was thinking hte same
19:47.27sedatedChipmunkmis
19:47.32LH|Taubejust to get you laugh, this was bout a year ago: http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2832/palaviewed6.jpg
19:48.26CIA-1103nimbal * r10256 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
19:48.26CIA-11Druidcom:
19:48.26CIA-11-Fixed Innervate and Rebirth dropdowns
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19:49.29Mikmahi vlad
19:49.32[1]Tupladlets try a real irc client then :o
19:50.09evluhu
19:50.15evlearplug reset sorta muted LFG :D
19:50.32Mikmahmm
19:50.37Mikmaneed to remove PR2 :P
19:50.39Mikmait's bugged atm
19:51.05LH|Taube=(
19:51.06Tupladoh damn it
19:52.04Tupladckknight, real irc clients are scary :P
19:52.06LH|Taubebut thats the perfect moment so bugger mikma with an idea. see querry
19:52.43Mikmahmmh?
19:53.28Mikmawiping at chrom <3
19:53.35Tupladawww <3
19:53.35LH|Taubehave fun :>
19:53.47sbuchrom 1st try here, wiping with nef :/
19:54.22Neronixhttp://img311.imageshack.us/img311/8054/wowscrnshot102305225849to7.jpg - About a year ago too, when Leeroy was new
19:54.32NeronixThis was after Drak, so you know
19:55.01NeronixA few days later, I moved to EU servers and haven't had a 60 since :<
19:55.14MikmaNeronix: "moved to eu" ?
19:55.16LH|TaubeOo
19:55.28Tupladewwwwwwwwww fugly
19:55.32NeronixMikma: I bought a US copy back in 2004
19:55.40LH|Taubeah, mikma, either mine or your irc client cant handle querries, i guess?
19:55.41Neronixcouldn't wait for EU release
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19:55.59Tupladmeh
19:56.09Neronixthen I got fed up of maintenance during my tuesday afternoons/evenings and my guild ZG/MC raids at 00:00/01:00
19:56.13MikmaLH|Taube: you need to register for private messages :)
19:56.20Neronixand fed up of being a pally
19:56.36Mikmalol
19:56.40Mikmanice reasons actually
19:56.54Tuplad=_=
19:56.58Tupladpally is pro
19:56.59NeronixMy old guild was perfect
19:57.37NeronixNot only were they huge, they were also great people, very well run and were casual orientated and running MC/ZG
19:58.07NeronixThough timezones stopped me from setting foot in them :<
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19:58.52Sairenhiho
19:59.25IndustrialIs there anyone up to date on what tekkub is doing with the wiki? Any template I can fill my addon stuff in and are there categories? Also how do I remove a page?
19:59.27LH|Taubehow to register with this irc? /msg AuthServ?
19:59.39Industrialnickserv
19:59.49Neronix/ns help register
20:02.32LH|Taubeok, many thanks, worked
20:03.53CIA-1103nimbal * r10257 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
20:03.53CIA-11Druidcom:
20:03.53CIA-11-Fixed duplicate timer error on request
20:04.29evlNeronix: earplug reset sorta completely mutes the LFG chan :)
20:06.44CIA-1103nimbal * r10258 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
20:06.44CIA-11Druidcom:
20:06.44CIA-11-Damn forgotten bracers
20:08.07Industrialcmonnnnn I need to get going with coding but I need documentation first but I need to know how and how to delete pages and in what format its wanted etcetc
20:08.22Industrialim stuck :>
20:08.34IndustrialTekkub, at what crazy hours do you live?
20:09.23sbumhh
20:09.34sbunef respawn timer would be nice ;)
20:09.47sbuwith announces every 5 min or sth. like that
20:10.01Kebinusanhttp://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?p=40102 <-- priest / hunter talents supposedly
20:10.14Kebinusanfor bc that is
20:11.18sbuhmm
20:11.21sbuif its true
20:11.27sbu-> more disc for me ;p
20:11.27LH|Taubethe priest talents look quite unlikely
20:11.39sbuyep... but that mana thingie would be great ;)
20:11.41sbuadd 52mp5 ;p
20:12.21LH|Taubei mean.. rapture... how much overhealing/healaggro do you want to create?
20:13.13hasteI mean... Kel'Thuzad 22% =\
20:13.30*** join/#wowace eternally777 (n=eternall@pool-72-70-140-116.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net)
20:13.49hasteand, more afk time! wee, see you tomorrow :3
20:14.04Kebinusan22%?
20:14.09steinoYes
20:14.11Kebinusanwow he'll be dead soon then
20:14.22steinohttp://www.nihilum.co.uk/media/newone.jpg
20:14.27steinoxD
20:14.45CIA-1103nimbal * r10259 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
20:14.45CIA-11Druidcom:
20:14.45CIA-11-Fixed request popups
20:15.08nevcairielis nihilum as crazy as DnT ? :)
20:15.19steinoWorse
20:15.28nevcairiellol
20:15.29ShyvaI like DnT more personaly
20:15.46Neronixevl: working as intended
20:15.53steinoYe, DnT has alot more core members that they have had since they started
20:16.14steinonihilium is more like a recruit loads of ppl to kill a boss
20:16.26Neronixep patterns = allow patterns
20:16.33Shyvaaltho dnt had a very big epeen in the past, they sound like a pretty fun guild to me now
20:16.34Neronixno allow patterns, nothing gets through
20:16.53frusonly problem with DnT is Xi is a retard :p
20:17.02NeronixI'm on the side of whoever acts less like elist pricks
20:17.10ShyvaHeh, I can laugh about Xi :)
20:17.16NeronixWho's Xi?
20:17.21Mikmalol
20:17.32MikmaPriests new shadowtalent: Subversion
20:17.32frusdude who threatened that DnT would quit WoW when c'thun was bugged
20:17.47frus& who acts like it's the end of the world that raids will be 25 ppl in TBC
20:18.05LH|Taubeoh, the guy with the famous "our guild will die then" post
20:18.10frusyep
20:18.11Shyvawell, I can understand him in both matters.. tho sharing it with the rest of the world makes no sence
20:18.30frusunderstanding sure, but the fuzz he makes about it not
20:18.34eternally777This may be quite a stretch off topic, but is anyone well educated in networking
20:18.39frusDnT is not the only guild in the world
20:18.45frushe doesn't seem to understand that
20:18.47Shyvaexactly frus
20:19.23frusthe 25-man raids is a good thing for like 95% of the guilds on the long run
20:19.44Shyvasad for them too, becuase they raid with the same core for a long time now..
20:20.05fruskinda, but not exactly true either, they have like 8 xrealm transfers
20:20.25frussure it's not as much as most other guilds, but they don't have to act it's the same 45 ppl since start either
20:20.47Shyvanah, but you get good friends tho
20:21.30Shyvaand atm Nihilum got a bigger epeen then DT or any other guild :-X (even biggre then Xi)
20:21.33LH|Taubei guess guilds like DnT do tend to forget that there´re raids and there´re guilds, but think in raids only
20:21.54FtH|eagleI really like the upcoming 25 people raids
20:21.58FtH|eagleit's much better to handle
20:21.58frusnah, nihilum ain't that bad on that matter
20:22.10frusI know all of their old-time members
20:22.17LH|Taubehow´ll FtH handle it? two raids then?
20:22.19frus& well, they got right to have epeen :p
20:22.28frusthey'll get khel world first prolly
20:22.35CIA-1103nimbal * r10260 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
20:22.35CIA-11Druidcom:
20:22.35CIA-11-Fixed argument passing to popups
20:22.40frus& their loatheb kill was like 4 weeks after the rest of the world
20:22.53FtH|eagletwo or one, we really don't care
20:23.02Mikmai was on the same server with nihilum earlier
20:23.06Mikmagod damn they ganked me hard
20:23.10FtH|eaglemany people go with us to get purple items
20:23.21FtH|eaglenot because of the fun working with other people to defeat encounters
20:23.28frusthen you played with me Mikma :p
20:23.29LH|Taubeinvite me, then ;)
20:23.50Mikmafrus: let's sort this. Burning Legion EU before migrate?
20:23.52FtH|eaglewe have a core, and that will be group #1
20:23.55frusyes
20:23.57IndustrialHow do I delete a wiki page?
20:24.04Mikmafrus: mofo! you ganked my mage! :D
20:24.05FtH|eaglesad for the new ones though, but no other possibility
20:24.20fruspossibly :p
20:24.21LH|Taubeyeah, i remember most of the people starting out with fth, very decent core
20:25.16LH|Taubeha, makes me miss the times when i was killed and camped for hours in epl by you guys, OE and the old Psycore ;)
20:28.56Industrial~botmail for Kaelten: Could you please delete the wiki pages: idButtonbars, idInterface, idMinimap Addon, idChat Addon and idMinimap
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20:34.41FtH|eagledon't like outdoor pvp
20:35.04LH|Taubeyou mean sili and those 4 towers?
20:36.03Industrialoutdoor pvp is too rogue advantageous
20:36.05Industrial:>
20:36.24Industrialthey can jump you with 2 rogues and kill you in 3 secs and vanish
20:36.41FtH|eagleI mean the old outdoor
20:36.49FtH|eaglewhich doesn't differ that much to the new
20:36.51LH|Taubeindustrial: you don´t like rogues? ^^
20:37.33Industrialgot stealtheritis from daoc
20:37.40LH|Taubedidn´t notice there was any real outdoor pvp. stv, ok, and occassional ganking, but no real pvp
20:42.03nevcairielthat epl and silithust thing, is that actually being played on pvp servers ? on our pve, alliance always owns everything :)
20:42.35JoshBorkeeverytime i've been in the zones, alliance was winning :-D
20:42.42JoshBorkereally nice for doing scholo/UD stat
20:42.43JoshBorke=D
20:42.58nevcairielits nice in aq20/40 .. 25% repu bonus :)
20:43.09LH|Taubenev: not really. on the first day there was quite some action, but afterwards.... well. you can conquer a tower naked and on your own
20:43.18nevcairielhaha
20:43.47LH|Taubebut i was thinking about getting paid for it, i mean, who doesn´t want the buff when in naxx? ^^
20:43.50*** join/#wowace MentalPower_ (i=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net)
20:43.57nevcairielit doesnt work in naxx
20:44.02nevcairielonly strat
20:44.05IndustrialAck we dont have enough administrators - been waiting for 2 days but theres noone online :|
20:46.20Industrialyes thats you Cairenn ckknight Kaelten kergoth MoonWolf Tekkub Tem
20:46.38Kaeltenwhats me?
20:46.39Cairennwhat?
20:50.39CIA-1103nimbal * r10261 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
20:50.39CIA-11Druidcom:
20:50.39CIA-11-Fixed forgotten , on line 850
20:50.39CIA-11-Debug message
20:51.43CairennIndustrial: you pinged us, what do you want?
20:52.48IndustrialIndustrial ~botmail for Kaelten: Could you please delete the wiki pages: idButtonbars, idInterface, idMinimap Addon, idChat Addon and idMinimap
20:53.12CairennI can't touch the stuff on the wiki, sorry
20:54.22Industrialoki ^^ pmed Kaelten
20:54.31Kaeltengive me links to the pages and I'll take care of it
20:54.33CIA-1103nimbal * r10262 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
20:54.33CIA-11Druidcom:
20:54.33CIA-11-*sigh* another fix about table values
20:54.39kergothIndustrial: i'm using idchat2 now :)
20:54.49Industrialwoohew \o/
20:54.49kergothjust needs some options to tweak timestamp format and channelnames format and such :)
20:55.03Industrialyeah I was planning to do that after this wiki stuff :P
20:55.24Mikmacrap
20:55.27Industrialoh and the modules that mess with the message formats have a bug when enabling/disabling them
20:55.30Mikmai found a bug on BT2 :P
20:55.32Industriali mean toggling them on and off
20:55.41Industrialthe hook doesnt seem to unhook :s
20:56.36Industrialmaybe I should remove the toggles cause theres enabling/disabling anyway
20:57.31Mikmai see a bonusbar on load :(
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20:58.08Mikmaoh wait
20:58.10Mikmaon RESET
20:59.01Industrialdidnt I tell you that when I tried it? =P
20:59.16MikmaIndustrial: no
20:59.23Mikmawell i fixed it hehe
20:59.30Industrialoh well the bonusbar showed when I first logged in with it
20:59.32Industrial:E
20:59.43Mikmashould be fixed now :)
21:00.52[Ammo]hmm
21:00.57Mikmaaaaand the was a problem with borders with resetall
21:00.58[Ammo]anyone here use the kiting tactic on Patchwerk?
21:01.28vhaarryou mean 2 hunters kiting him around naxx?
21:01.30Shyvathe one that takes 20 min? o.0
21:01.39vhaarrI don't think that's allowed
21:01.43vhaarrbut no, anyway, don't use it
21:01.52[Ammo]it's allowed :)
21:02.02[Ammo]just that we can't get him to bloody come through his door
21:02.09vhaarrhaha
21:02.16[Ammo]he resets for some odd reason
21:02.19[Ammo]just wonder how to do the pull
21:02.23vhaarryour healers suck, or? :P
21:02.31[Ammo]well yeah
21:02.34[Ammo]mostly
21:02.39vhaarr;)
21:02.41frus`maybe they changed it so it wouldn't be possible anymore? :p
21:02.41[Ammo]we have a few pro ones, and a few less pro ones
21:02.51frus`we used to pull chromaggus to broodlord's room
21:02.52vhaarralways like that
21:02.52[Ammo]he was killed last night by another guild with 31 people using the kite
21:02.55frus`they nerfed that too ;(
21:06.23CIA-1103nimbal * r10263 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
21:06.23CIA-11Druidcom:
21:06.23CIA-11-Another fix for the popup arguments
21:06.23CIA-11-Yet another fix for nil errors in iterations
21:07.29CIA-1103cladhaire * r10264 10Clique/Plugins/Plugins.xml: Clique: ora2_mtf plugin
21:08.02bindibleh
21:08.07bindianyone else got the bug with bigwigs
21:08.13bindithat the eggcounter at razor is wrong
21:08.21bindiit doesn't count the eggs done in phase1
21:08.27bindiit starts after phase1 is done
21:10.02CIA-1103mikma * r10265 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: bonusbar shown on /bar resetall -fixed
21:10.12frus`http://gu.frus.be/files/chromaggus.jpg -> this tactic was awesome for time lapse !
21:10.28frus`he just ran towards the casters, & then turned back =)
21:10.29Mikmafrus`: that's interesting
21:10.47frus`we had eu third or sth with that tactic =)
21:11.21frus`but it's genious !
21:11.24bindifrus
21:11.27Mikmafrus`: i'm gonna show that to my guild
21:11.28bindiis that your screen?
21:11.35frus`that was my screen 1 year ago :p
21:11.44[Ammo]cladhaire: you forgot to add the actual plugin?
21:11.48bindihmm
21:11.48[Ammo]only adjusted the .xml
21:12.02bindiyou have like a bar with your gear on top
21:12.04bindiwhats that?
21:12.09frus`itemrack
21:12.20bindihm
21:12.48Mikma[Ammo]: wrong chan
21:13.24frus`now chromaggus resets tho at the small hallways between the 2 stages
21:13.43frussince... 1.9 or sth :p
21:14.37Mikmafrus: so that tactic won't work anymore?
21:14.53frusI'm not sure, back then he had a bug he would aggro casters permanently sometimes
21:15.06frusso he would come down then, & kill 2-3 casters, & then go back up
21:15.08Mikmawell, we might give it a go
21:15.14Mikmalater of course
21:15.35frusonly with time lapse that can be an issue tho, without time lapse that position is easy mode
21:15.42frusall healers can stand out of los & heal everyone
21:16.02Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/dreamlayout.jpg
21:16.20Mikmathere it is in action with 3 actionbars
21:16.30CIA-1103cladhaire * r10266 10Clique/Plugins/Clique_oRA2_MTF.lua: Clique: I hate you
21:17.18Saroz<3
21:17.32[Ammo]hehe
21:17.46CIA-1103nimbal * r10267 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
21:17.46CIA-11Druidcom:
21:17.46CIA-11-Fixed possible nil error
21:17.46CIA-11-Added a few debug messages
21:18.09nevcairielwith all that commits, he should be working in branches on druidcom :P
21:18.46bindihope it works :p
21:19.28Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1837.msg40578.html#msg40578 :)
21:20.47nevcairielmore screenshots! .. no wait .. need more dreamlayout around shapeshift buttons! :D
21:21.08LH|Taubeand around pet frames =D
21:21.11Mikmanevcairiel: i just edited the post heh
21:21.21Mikmanevcairiel: reload the page and see for my reply now ;)
21:21.39nevcairiel:)
21:21.59Mikmaif you give me 10 ebuck's i'll code it in right now
21:22.20nevcairielhehe
21:22.43CIA-1103nimbal * r10268 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
21:22.43CIA-11Druidcom:
21:22.43CIA-11-Guess what? Debug message added
21:23.06nevcairielIts not that important, wont be playing for the next 12hours anway .. somewhat tired, and maintenance coming up anyway
21:23.40nevcairielThat reminds me, someone from US realms alive ? :)
21:24.00bindinot me sry
21:24.14nevcairieljust wondering if they got that rumored 1.12.1
21:25.30nevcairiellogin msg is cool right now .. it says default maintenance, BUT some specific realms will have extended maintenance to improve their hosting centers
21:25.40nevcairieli hope they improve mine :s
21:32.57tumetomwhat's  the target string for pets?
21:32.59CIA-1103nimbal * r10269 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
21:32.59CIA-11Druidcom:
21:32.59CIA-11-Hopefully fixed casting detection
21:33.21nevcairielyour pet ?
21:34.50nevcairielTargetUnit("pet") will target the pet of your current target, and there is "raidpet" .. i
21:35.06nevcairieloh and partypet :)
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21:36.49Jagobahanyone here use IIK_feigntrap?
21:36.55Jagobahthe version I got is officialy fubar
21:37.56nevcairielbbl
21:42.25Mikmahttp://googlesightseeing.com/maps?p=897&c=&t=k&hl=en&ll=51.389445,30.098956&spn=0.009172,0.020127&om=1
21:42.28Mikmahave fun
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21:44.56CIA-1103nimbal * r10270 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua:
21:44.57CIA-11Druidcom:
21:44.57CIA-11-Hopefully fixed button flashing
21:48.01CIA-1103coalado * r10271 10IIK_FeignTrap/core.lua: fixed Class Error
21:51.05Jagobahsweet that may do it
21:51.09Jagobahgonna go test
21:55.57Jagobahyay it works :D
21:57.57Shyvahttp://www.hltv.org/doh.jpg
21:59.31HealthThey using your code vhaarr ?
22:00.14Shyvaammo's
22:00.28Healthcoolers
22:00.47Shyvathey seem to use Bigwigs for every boss
22:01.02vhaarrno Shyva I got ninjaed to bwl raid so ammo made the mod instead
22:01.11ShyvaI know
22:01.39Shyvaelse you would have made it :)
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22:02.27Shyvaanyways, it's cool to hear some really top guild uses bigwigs :)
22:02.46Jagobahammo is in that guild :O ?
22:02.50Shyvanah
22:03.01Shyvavhaarr played yesterday with them if I'm right
22:03.12Shyvamust be so cool =)
22:03.45HealthAs in getting an account lend out?
22:04.06ShyvaI think vhaarr plays on that server..
22:04.12Shyvacan be wrong tho
22:04.12Healthaha..
22:04.27vhaarryes
22:04.29vhaarrsorry busy atm
22:04.36Shyvaraiding?
22:04.42Jagobahis that SS real :O
22:04.46[Ammo]it is real
22:04.48Shyvayea
22:04.52JagobahI see what looks like anub'rekhan there!
22:04.57Jagobahwhoa
22:05.54[Ammo]he blocked out the bigwigs messages in the SS :)
22:06.12Shyvayea, he did that on all screens
22:06.13bindiits the same floor Jagobah
22:06.19JagobahI noticed the KT module added
22:08.32*** join/#wowace Sairen (n=Miranda@p549E694A.dip.t-dialin.net)
22:08.49Jagobahthat's pretty awesome
22:08.55*** join/#wowace Mikk (i=bofh@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com)
22:09.09JagobahSo big question:  Easier or harder than 4H :O
22:09.41ShyvaI guess it's easier :-S becuase the 4 horsies didn't get so close to dieing after such a short time
22:10.19CIA-1103phyber * r10272 10GotWood/libs/:
22:10.19CIA-11GotWood:
22:10.19CIA-11- Fixed broken SpellStatus/Cache paths. Nightdew should be charged with this job :p
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22:13.12CIA-1103grimwald 07Grimwald * r10273 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/Optional/Buff.lua:
22:13.12CIA-11oRA2_Buff:
22:13.12CIA-11* UnitIsUnit() was not such a good idea the way i used it...
22:13.12CIA-11* renamed buff.icon to buff.texture
22:16.31Shyvann guys
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22:24.51tumetomJagobah I do use it :)
22:25.15tumetom(feigntrap) sorry for that error
22:26.48sbujmm whats druidcomm?
22:26.53sbu*reading*
22:27.01sbuand gnnn - wheres maia
22:27.46sbuhave added some detox features but cant share them ;) (1. need to ask maia about that 2. no svn acc)
22:28.48CIA-1103phyber * r10274 10Denial2/:
22:28.48CIA-11Denial2:
22:28.49CIA-11- This works now. Adding it to the trunk.
22:29.13phyber:)
22:29.23phyberanother Ace1 addon bites the dust.
22:30.53sbukeepitcool2 :o
22:30.53sbuoh
22:31.00sbumooncloth cd ready, brb ;p
22:31.16phyberyeha, I keep looking at KIC.
22:31.33phybermaybe I'll look at that tomorrow if I'm bored at work.  for now, sleep ;)
22:31.36sbuhehe
22:31.40sbugoodnite then ;)
22:31.53vhaarryou should just tag the old Ace1 version and overwrite it
22:32.07vhaarrit's not worth keeping
22:32.27phybertag Ace1 version of Denial?
22:32.39vhaarrall Ace1 mods you convert
22:32.41phyberit's not on SVN.  but since Neriak isn't around, I can't claim the old Denial on WoWI
22:32.45vhaarrah
22:32.47vhaarrokay
22:32.59phyberotherwise, yeah, I'd have kept it as Denial :)
22:33.10phyberslash commands and stuff are still the same anyway ;)
22:33.29vhaarrgood
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22:47.31CIA-1103cladhaire * r10275 10Clique/Plugins/Clique_BlizzRaidFrames.lua: Clique: Made sure that the BlizzRaid plugin won't load if the EasyRaid plugin is loaded
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22:51.58Industrialis this correct with deformat?
22:51.59Industrial<PROTECTED>
22:52.18Industrialso deformat returns only the %d number ?
22:53.04phybershould be.  login and test :p
22:54.58Industrialyeh in a min :>
22:56.13Health[00:47] <N|Kungen> 1% twice.
22:56.27HealthEU downtime in a few hours! gogo
23:07.31CIA-1103cladhaire * r10276 10Clique/Plugins/Clique_HealSelect.lua: Clique: Possible fix for regrowth emergency healing.
23:11.38CIA-1103cladhaire * r10277 10Clique/Plugins/Clique_PCUF.lua:
23:11.38CIA-11Clique:
23:11.38CIA-11* Added region checking to PCUF, clicking on the name frames will default click.
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23:16.45bindisbu its a mod that keeps track of inners/combatresses from you and other druids
23:16.50bindiassigning them to targets you wish too
23:17.01evlhttp://www.hltv.org/doh.jpg
23:17.20Healthold!
23:17.31HealthThey already had a second 1% wipe too :)
23:17.53evlI guess they will keep going until server goes down
23:17.59HealthWhich is in afew hours
23:18.38evlHow far has DT gotten?
23:18.43HealthThey were fucked
23:18.54HealthThey're resetted now...
23:19.07HealthAnd their boss were bugged
23:19.07Industrialevl wtfooooook is hltv.org? hltv as in Half Life TV?
23:19.20evldunno, probably somewhere to host :P
23:20.41CIA-1103cladhaire * r10278 10Clique/Plugins/ (Clique_SqueakyWheel.lua Plugins.xml): Clique: Added a plugin for SqueakyWheel
23:21.22Industrialthought it was yours :p
23:22.14CIA-1103grayhoof * r10279 10EavesDrop/ (EavesDrop.toc libs/): EavesDrop: Added AceLocale-2.0 to toc and libs, since BabbleSpell still requires it.
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23:29.00phyberhmm.  can anyone else get to any wow websites?
23:29.11phyberI can get to the US forums and that's it.
23:29.42LH|Taubei can get to the eu mainpage, but no forums
23:29.55phyberEU mainpage is 404 for me.
23:30.01dreyruugrIs it possible to somehow receive OnEnter/OnLeave events for a frame below another frame, while still allowing the top frame to receive OnClick?
23:30.13phyberand it keeps trying to refresh each second.
23:30.17phybersilly blizzard
23:33.28LH|Taubephyber: can you give me the link to the us forums?
23:34.05Thraedreyruugr: God I hope not.
23:37.15dreyruugrWhy would you hope not?
23:37.29dreyruugrAllowing mouse focus to pass through a frame would be useful
23:38.33Thraedreyruugr: Think of how the engine would likely handle it...10 overlapping frames with 10 possible OnEnter calls, ugh
23:38.51dreyruugrOh, not like that
23:39.10dreyruugrIf a frame doesn't have OnEnter, but the one below it does, the one below it has it's OnEnter called
23:39.21Thraedreyruugr: And you can pass mouse focus through a frame by either increasing your frame's level or strata, or disabling the mouse for the overlapping frame. WorldMap addons do this to the World Map after they make it transparent and scale it.
23:40.13dreyruugrBut doing that means that frame won't receive OnClick, correct?
23:40.32ThraeYep
23:41.20dreyruugrSo, that doesn't work then :)
23:54.47Thianaphyber: Is Denial2 functionally identical to Denial?
23:59.50phyberThiana: yup

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