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`00:02.06`	`Health`	`snurre: How fast does the dot buil up from Deathknight Cavaliers? I guess they're not too hard if only the tank is close?`
`00:02.44`	`snurre`	`not entirely sure of the interval, probably about 5 or 10secs`
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`00:02.47`	`snurre`	`but we just range them down`
`00:02.50`	`dreadlyone`	`they can be outranged and the cavaliers should be split up if u have more than one`
`00:03.07`	`snurre`	`MT on it, OT infront of raid to pick it up when MT gets deathcoiled`
`00:03.13`	`phyber`	`don't suppose any of you guys are in Florida?`
`00:03.27`	`dreadlyone`	`nope`
`00:03.28`	`phyber`	`guys/girls/people/things`
`00:03.32`	`cerement`	`snurre: cladhaire's plans for SVN -- http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2062.0.html`
`00:03.53`	`Health`	`snurre: Thanks for the info.. wiring a guide for our little alliance.. I think we can down raz even though we just started BWL :P`
`00:04.11`	`Health`	`Well.. been downing some bosses the last weeks in BWL.`
`00:04.15`	`snurre`	`raz is very easy if your priests have +hit gear`
`00:04.44`	`Kebinusan`	`is there someplace that lists the rgb values for the class colors?`
`00:04.57`	`Health`	`snurre: Yeah, ofcourse we'll prepare with that :)`
`00:05.08`	`dreadlyone`	`just need +3 to hit at most and stay within 10-15 yards of your mc'd taget to reduce chance of early break`
`00:05.11`	`Health`	`snurre: Same tactics on the Death Lord?`
`00:05.34`	`snurre`	`yeah, but you can melee him`
`00:05.38`	`snurre`	`dies in a few seconds anyway`
`00:05.42`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10006 10idActionBar/ (idActionBar.lua idActionBar.toc):`
`00:05.42`	`CIA-11`	`idActionBar:`
`00:05.42`	`CIA-11`	`- Updated the toc version`
`00:05.42`	`CIA-11`	`- the backgrounds show and hide as you drag bars and correctly scales with the button scale`
`00:05.52`	`Industrial`	`\o/`
`00:06.36`	`Industrial`	`crap`
`00:06.41`	`Industrial`	`borked`
`00:06.56`	`Health`	`snurre: Ah.. he has less hp than the other ones?`
`00:07.03`	`snurre`	`think so`
`00:08.02`	`snurre`	`zerging works quite fine tbh :p`
`00:08.17`	`Health`	`:P`
`00:08.27`	`snurre`	`on our deathlord pack we got two steeds and some skeletons as adds :p`
`00:08.29`	`snurre`	`today`
`00:08.51`	`snurre`	`i think every single pull we had in the deathknight wing had adds :p`
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`00:09.54`	`Health`	`Hehe, survived?`
`00:10.02`	`Health`	`You should have frapsed! :p`
`00:10.35`	`*** join/#wowace Mikk (i=bofh@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com)`
`00:10.41`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10007 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Untested attempt at supporting mage portals.`
`00:10.45`	`snurre`	`i think some it was`
`00:10.47`	`ckknight`	`I have found the bug in AceLocale-2.0`
`00:10.49`	`ckknight`	`and I'm fixing it.`
`00:10.51`	`snurre`	`i keep forgetting to use fraps tho`
`00:11.03`	`Health`	`I wonder if there is any deathknight trash vids`
`00:11.22`	`Health`	`gah.. just run in and get some experience works too :P`
`00:11.44`	`Health`	`But BWL -> Naxx is a pretyt big step.. so doesn't hurt to be prepared :P`
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`00:12.43`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10008 10idActionBar/idActionBar.lua: idActionBar: Moved some stuff around and fixed the button background from not disappearing.`
`00:12.53`	`Industrial`	`there, anyone care to try? =D`
`00:13.16`	`snurre`	`wowwiki generally has good info about naxx trash`
`00:14.22`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r10009 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: AceLocale - big bugfix regarding __index`
`00:14.49`	`vhaarr`	`Industrial: since I suck at regexps, how do I extract "Bar" from "Foo: Bar"?`
`00:15.19`	`vhaarr`	`Industrial: local _, _, bar = string.find("Foo: Bar", "%s: (%s)") ?`
`00:15.42`	`ckknight`	`not quite.`
`00:15.55`	`ckknight`	`local _, _, bar = string.find("Foo: Bar", "Foo: (.*)")`
`00:15.57`	`ckknight`	`basically.`
`00:16.05`	`vhaarr`	`Foo can be anything`
`00:16.07`	`vhaarr`	`so %s ?`
`00:16.12`	`ckknight`	`.*`
`00:16.15`	`vhaarr`	`or .: (.)`
`00:16.17`	`vhaarr`	`right`
`00:16.19`	`vhaarr`	`thanks`
`00:16.21`	`ckknight`	`I recommend just using Deformat :-P`
`00:16.22`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`00:16.35`	`vhaarr`	`hehe`
`00:17.12`	`ckknight`	`yea, that was a bad bug in AceLocale-2.0`
`00:17.14`	`ckknight`	`fixed now`
`00:17.18`	`ckknight`	`and more efficient now anyway`
`00:17.22`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`00:17.28`	`vhaarr`	`cool`
`00:17.47`	`ckknight`	`it had to do with table references changing after AceLibrary registration`
`00:18.07`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10010 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Regexp fixed.`
`00:20.00`	`CIA-11`	`03thiana 07Ammo * r10011 10oRA2/oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2 - Core.lua: Assume player when IsValidRequest() isnt passed a name to check. Needed for basic leader functions.`
`00:21.38`	`camps`	`Can you access objects accross lua files?`
`00:21.39`	`ckknight`	`Cairenn, uploaded a new FuBar`
`00:21.44`	`ckknight`	`yea, camps`
`00:21.51`	`camps`	`duh, i'm asking easy questions`
`00:21.51`	`ckknight`	`as long as there's a reference you can access`
`00:22.08`	`Cairenn`	`ckknight: you don't need to let me know every time, I always know within like 60 seconds, if I'm at the computer ;)`
`00:22.23`	`ckknight`	`camps, http://www.lua.org/pil`
`00:22.25`	`ckknight`	`Cairenn, alright`
`00:22.53`	`Cairenn`	`hehehe`
`00:23.20`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10012 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Fixed portal icons.`
`00:23.34`	`*** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)`
`00:23.34`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ`
`00:23.38`	`ckknight`	`hey Tem`
`00:23.48`	`Tem`	`hey`
`00:26.42`	`Cairenn`	`ckknight: approved`
`00:26.47`	`ckknight`	`yay`
`00:27.04`	`Cairenn`	`sorry for the delay, was busy with something else`
`00:27.11`	`ckknight`	`no biggie`
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`00:30.25`	`sbu`	`mhh - IsAddOnLoaded("sct") doesnt work?`
`00:30.53`	`Industrial`	`http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8416/wowscrnshot090406022950xp1.jpg`
`00:30.56`	`Industrial`	`the sex`
`00:31.47`	`cerement`	`what other Ace mods have bar textures? agUF, oCB I've gotten ...`
`00:31.47`	`Gngsk`	`nerf`
`00:31.57`	`sbu`	`ah, its IsAddOnLoaded("ScrollingCombatText") :p`
`00:31.59`	`Health`	`candybars?`
`00:32.21`	`sbu`	`hmno`
`00:32.22`	`sbu`	`wtf`
`00:32.25`	`Neronix`	`cerement: PerfectRaid, PerfectTargets, oUF2`
`00:32.57`	`snurre`	`XRS`
`00:32.57`	`Neronix`	`and xRaidStatus`
`00:33.04`	`sbu`	`gnnnnnnnl, nevermind - 'not' is my friend :/`
`00:33.12`	`snurre`	`i changed my swstats texture too`
`00:33.21`	`CIA-11`	`03greywind * r10013 10oSkin/AddonFrames.lua: oSkin: added Bagnon/Banknon skinning`
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`00:34.16`	`snurre`	`squishy`
`00:37.39`	`Health`	`I should use xRaidStatus`
`00:38.30`	`Tekkub`	`http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Main_Page`
`00:38.34`	`Tekkub`	`I like that layout`
`00:38.43`	`Tekkub`	`should I steal it for our main page?`
`00:38.46`	`Tekkub`	`^^`
`00:38.59`	`Industrial`	`I see the faire at TB starting up`
`00:40.00`	`Industrial`	`Tekkub, yeh its nice`
`00:40.50`	ag`	`Finally I got rid of Ace1 lib :-)`
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`00:41.19`	`ckknight`	ag`, :-)
`00:42.42`	ag`	`so I have 32 addons installed now, all but one is from the SVN and I'm using 14.5 mb`
`00:43.17`	`ckknight`	`good times`
`00:43.37`	`Neronix`	`WTB Deuced FuXP, MrPlow and CommandHistory`
`00:43.52`	`Neronix`	`And then I'm done`
`00:44.30`	`phyber`	`what happens if someone not on the F&F alpha of BC tries to upgrade their account? Blizzard takes all your epics and drops you in the sea with Maws?`
`00:45.13`	`sbu`	`hehe`
`00:45.19`	`Neronix`	`I got "Service is currently unavailable"`
`00:45.32`	`ckknight`	`I want to get on the alpha :'(`
`00:45.42`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm.. Easyauction, otravi_castingbar, Perfectraid and SortEnchant.. last Ace1 Addons :/`
`00:45.48`	`ckknight`	`person I asked ran out of F&F accounts, though`
`00:45.54`	`Kebinusan`	`Neronix, Acetimer plz thnx`
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`00:48.14`	`phyber`	`bah. "Key not expansion key."`
`00:48.22`	`phyber`	`wtb, BC account :\|`
`00:48.44`	ag`	`what is F&F?`
`00:48.58`	ag`	`friends, oh`
`00:49.00`	`phyber`	`Friends and Family`
`00:49.02`	`Cairenn`	`Friends & Family`
`00:49.24`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10014 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidOptions.lua):`
`00:49.24`	`CIA-11`	`PerfectRaid:`
`00:49.24`	`CIA-11`	`* /praid align and /praid valign work`
`00:49.24`	`CIA-11`	`* Layout code broken out to UpdateLayout()`
`00:49.24`	`CIA-11`	`* Added Spirit of Redemption (without localisation atm) detection`
`00:49.34`	ag`	`Do you move your existing characters to the alpha?`
`00:50.08`	ag`	`hm, so when BC hits the streets, people will start at level 70 or what because they played the beta? Or what?`
`00:50.10`	`ckknight`	`I want an account really just to test UI stuff.`
`00:50.20`	`ckknight`	I doubt it, ag`
`00:50.38`	ag`	`yeah I doubt it too, it was just in relation to what phyber wrote`
`00:50.38`	`ckknight`	`it's probably similar to the test realms`
`00:51.25`	ag`	`ckknight, if you want to test LUA 5.1 you can get the alpha client and run it on a sandbox server`
`00:51.35`	`ckknight`	`they aren't using lua 5.1 yet`
`00:51.39`	ag`	`I see`
`00:51.46`	`phyber`	`yeah, they will probably just delete it say thanks and let you wander into the real expansion complete with all of the bugs that were reported in the beta and never fixed ;)`
`00:51.57`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`00:53.33`	`cerement`	`phyber: wouldn't it be nice for once if a gaming company actually fixed the beta bugs ;P`
`00:54.18`	`Cairenn`	`it'd also be really cool if those that signed NDAs actually honoured them, too`
`00:54.29`	`Cairenn`	`but it's an imperfect world`
`00:55.13`	`ckknight`	`I'd honor mine if I had one :-P`
`00:55.15`	ag`	`But I want to know stuff about the game Cairenn :((`
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`00:56.45`	`eternally777`	`ckk, ping?`
`00:57.04`	`phyber`	`I would guard mine with my life if I had one. ( a beta account, i have a life ) ;)`
`00:57.11`	`ckknight`	`eternally777, pong`
`01:00.20`	`eternally777`	`I'm experiencing AceComm errors`
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`01:01.06`	`eternally777`	`In the latest branch of HealHub`
`01:01.26`	`eternally777`	`I put the specific lines in the upload log`
`01:01.35`	`iSynic`	`So are the new candybars working as intended?`
`01:02.11`	`ckknight`	`upload log?`
`01:02.15`	`eternally777`	`SVN`
`01:02.31`	`eternally777`	`yeah, in teh log`
`01:02.49`	`eternally777`	`You know how you type in a description of what changes you made when you commit?`
`01:02.51`	`eternally777`	`In that "log"`
`01:03.09`	`ckknight`	`right`
`01:03.22`	`ckknight`	`what's the issue?`
`01:03.57`	`eternally777`	`I couldn't pinpoint whether it occured on transmit or receiving a message`
`01:04.18`	`eternally777`	`Because I was off to work. The only change I made was moving the memoizations to the beginning of the Comm file as you recommended last night`
`01:05.03`	`eternally777`	`The error was "table expected, got nil"`
`01:05.11`	`eternally777`	`on those two lines, let me check them quick`
`01:05.57`	`eternally777`	`Lines 1724 and 1736 of AceComm-2.0.lua`
`01:07.08`	`eternally777`	`Good evening Nightdew`
`01:07.17`	`ckknight`	`hey Nightdew`
`01:07.46`	`sbu`	`is it possible to use %s in locales?`
`01:08.31`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`01:09.38`	`ckknight`	`eternally777, that is a damn weird error`
`01:09.44`	`ckknight`	`those lines shouldn't produce that error`
`01:14.33`	`eternally777`	`sounds good to me`
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`01:15.54`	`cerement`	`gotta go fix dinner, but as a parting shot: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2096.0.html`
`01:17.00`	`eternally777`	`Well Ckk, I'm getting that exact same error as I test my mod right now`
`01:17.09`	`ckknight`	`:-(`
`01:17.13`	`ckknight`	`AceComm fully up to date?`
`01:20.47`	`eternally777`	`Yep yep`
`01:20.51`	`eternally777`	`Updated this afternoon`
`01:21.57`	`eternally777`	`it's seems to be on transmit`
`01:21.59`	`eternally777`	`not receive`
`01:22.31`	`sbu`	`hah finally, sct support for detox`
`01:22.59`	`ckknight`	`okay, the error at 1724, 1736 or both?`
`01:23.04`	`eternally777`	`Both`
`01:23.32`	`ckknight`	`if I were to download your mod, would I then be able to get the error?`
`01:23.40`	`eternally777`	`the go sequentially apparently. 1734, then 1726, but never 1734 twice in a row`
`01:23.45`	`eternally777`	`yet`
`01:23.54`	`eternally777`	`alt tabbed 1 sec, Ouro`
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`01:24.46`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r10015 10VitalWatch/ (3 files): VitalWatch -- Fixed some bugs`
`01:25.26`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10016 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidOptions.lua):`
`01:25.26`	`CIA-11`	`PerfectRaid:`
`01:25.26`	`CIA-11`	`* /praid truncate works`
`01:25.26`	`CIA-11`	`* frame.Prefix has been removed, if we need it, we'll put it back in`
`01:25.26`	`CIA-11`	`* Resolved the issues with the highlight texture.`
`01:28.21`	`Tem`	`holy piss`
`01:28.25`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`01:28.32`	`Tem`	`my increasing rate just went up to 200kb/s`
`01:28.38`	`Tem`	`during fankris trash`
`01:29.42`	`Gngsk`	`woah`
`01:30.16`	`mjc`	`ouch`
`01:30.55`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you installed cosmos during fankriss?`
`01:31.36`	`sbu`	`heeh`
`01:31.40`	`Kemayo`	`That's pretty hardcore.`
`01:32.23`	`sbu`	`hmm, fubar 1+2 plugins (with compat) and windfury totem? ;o`
`01:34.20`	`ckknight`	`true.`
`01:37.13`	`eternally777`	`Ckk, do you want my buggrabber?`
`01:37.24`	`ckknight`	`yea, that'd be useful`
`01:37.40`	`frus`	`hurray, made my first semi-complex macro ;(, prolly some errors, but at least it works !`
`01:37.42`	`ckknight`	`eternally777, if I were to download your mod, would I then be able to get the error?`
`01:37.44`	`frus`	`/script for i=1,5 do _,_,a = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(i); if a then CastShapeshiftForm(i) break else CastSpellByName("Nature's Swiftness") SpellStopCasting() CastSpellByName("Healing Touch", 1) break; end end;`
`01:38.15`	`Tem`	`is there an option to hide mt frames in ora?`
`01:38.20`	`Tem`	`(ora2)`
`01:38.54`	`eternally777`	`Ckk, probably. You'd have to run a function in game though, or target Loatheb to register the events first`
`01:39.03`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`01:39.04`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`01:39.48`	`eternally777`	`Oh yeah, and you'd have to be in a raid.`
`01:39.56`	`eternally777`	`With other healers. So in other words, probably not.`
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`01:40.40`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`01:40.57`	`ckknight`	`your debugstack might be handy`
`01:41.47`	`eternally777`	`ugh, not that again`
`01:42.22`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10017 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Fixed a logic issue with truncate logic`
`01:47.02`	`ckknight`	`<eternally777> Ckk, do you want my buggrabber?`
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`01:51.55`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10018 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Removed duplicate tooltip`
`01:52.47`	`eternally777`	`Well why didnt' you just say that :P`
`01:52.58`	`eternally777`	`it's all north korean to me.`
`01:57.11`	`eternally777`	`Ckk, http://www.wishiwascool.com/downloads/!BugGrabber.lua`
`01:57.46`	`eternally777`	`Not every error on there is related to this, so look at the most recent.`
`02:01.10`	`sbu`	`mh, where to report bugs in sRaidFrames?`
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`02:03.06`	`Tem`	`ewww`
`02:03.25`	`Tem`	`who changed the bar texture on candybar?`
`02:03.48`	`Tem`	`(for the bigwigs bars)`
`02:05.35`	`kergoth`	`14:59 < CIA-11> ammo * r9979 CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/bar.tga: CandyBar: sexy sexy sexy texture per def now.`
`02:06.12`	`Tem`	`texture per def?`
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`02:12.23`	`kergoth`	`default, i presume`
`02:12.32`	`Merentar`	`ok, first raid using XRS`
`02:12.39`	`Merentar`	`THAT THING IS THE BOMB`
`02:14.02`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10019 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Dynamic tooltip without using XML templates.`
`02:14.46`	`kergoth`	`Merentar: yes`
`02:14.51`	`kergoth`	`i loev it, especially on my rogue`
`02:14.54`	`kergoth`	`can disable perfectraid entirely`
`02:19.04`	`Tem`	`woot`
`02:19.06`	`Tem`	`neutral`
`02:20.02`	`Tem`	`(with brood of nozdormu)`
`02:20.21`	`Thrae`	`Squeenix is very nice, but I need to figure out what to do with my Minimap buttons...`
`02:21.07`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: Would be cool if you could update SpellCache and SpellStatus with proper structure and a TOC.`
`02:21.10`	`snurre`	`wtb movable squeenix`
`02:23.07`	`Thrae`	`snurre: Visor`
`02:23.16`	`snurre`	`i know`
`02:23.19`	`snurre`	`but meh`
`02:23.42`	`kergoth`	`i like the old version of simpleminimap, coupled with JIM_Abacus to manage the buttons`
`02:23.46`	`snurre`	`so much easier if squeenix was movable, since that's all i want moved :p`
`02:26.18`	`Kebinusan`	`simpleminimap is nice`
`02:26.28`	`Kebinusan`	`I like the borderless square mask`
`02:36.38`	`*** join/#wowace Azix (n=Azix@host213-123-205-178.in-addr.btopenworld.com)`
`02:37.40`	`Tem`	`wow.. fuck you parser lib`
`02:37.51`	`Tem`	`god damn`
`02:38.02`	`Tem`	`shitty memory management ftl`
`02:38.27`	`eternally777`	`So we downed Loatheb for the first time tongiht.. now we're wiping on ouro endlessly`
`02:38.35`	`eternally777`	`:(`
`02:38.45`	`vhaarr`	`hah, we have that problem, too :)`
`02:38.59`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Did you use HealbotAssist?`
`02:39.08`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10020 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Current target will have a "*" at the front of their name`
`02:39.36`	`Kebinusan`	`heh, our ouro strat is sooo cool`
`02:39.42`	`Kebinusan`	`we run out of range for sand blast`
`02:40.06`	`eternally777`	`We just set up the standard Y-formation`
`02:40.19`	`vhaarr`	`yeah, we use Y, too.`
`02:40.20`	`eternally777`	`We use sandblast to keep our mages low on aggro`
`02:40.26`	`vhaarr`	`indeed`
`02:40.40`	`Merentar`	`I have a question .. I've seen a nice pic of AG Unit Frame ... is there a way to make a raid frame with only my guildies for AV ?`
`02:40.50`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah we do that, then we have the casters w/o salv to eat the sand blast, then every 20 seconds, the casters just back up out of sand blast range`
`02:40.53`	`vhaarr`	`Merentar: No.`
`02:40.54`	`Kebinusan`	`it never hits the tanks`
`02:41.08`	`Kebinusan`	`he turns and casts it at the casters but it doesnt hit anyone`
`02:41.20`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`02:41.31`	`frus`	`lol, pretty lame strat ;)`
`02:41.39`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Did you use BW_HealbotAssist at Loatheb?`
`02:41.47`	`Kebinusan`	`frus, yeah it is`
`02:41.55`	`Kebinusan`	`but it works amazingly well`
`02:41.55`	`frus`	`just all group up, MT at the other side & recover from the 1-2 sand blasts you get on the full raid =)`
`02:41.58`	`frus`	`works like a charm too`
`02:42.20`	`Kebinusan`	`You know that free action pots prevent you from taking damage from sand blast ?`
`02:42.43`	`eternally777`	`vhaar... what is BW_HealBotAssist?`
`02:42.53`	`frus`	`well, arcane protection potions prevent you from taking damage from shazzrah's aoe too`
`02:42.54`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Healing rotation mod for Loatheb.`
`02:42.58`	`frus`	`but does anyone use them? :p`
`02:43.19`	`Kebinusan`	`frus, my old guild we had the casters pop a free action pot at the 20% enrage`
`02:43.43`	`eternally777`	`vhaar, -.-`
`02:43.57`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777?`
`02:44.02`	`eternally777`	`I've spent a month working on a mod for that, and it still doesn't work.`
`02:44.07`	`vhaarr`	`Heh.`
`02:44.11`	`eternally777`	`yeah...`
`02:44.12`	`frus`	`2 groups of casters move to the other side & soak up all sand blasts, while being healed works too :p`
`02:44.14`	`vhaarr`	`I made one in 5h.`
`02:44.32`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/BigWigs_HealbotAssist/BigWigs_HealbotAssist.lua`
`02:44.32`	`eternally777`	`That's not helping my self-esteem, vhaar.`
`02:44.56`	`vhaarr`	`Well, I cheated :)`
`02:45.09`	`eternally777`	`Do you have screenshots? I want to see it.`
`02:45.19`	`vhaarr`	`No, I do not.`
`02:45.21`	`vhaarr`	`It's simple.`
`02:45.29`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: _1_ person in the raid runs it, and ONLY 1.`
`02:45.42`	`eternally777`	`Kinda like a.. healing hub?`
`02:45.51`	`vhaarr`	`That person then gets a Tablet with a list of all the healers in the raid and their status.`
`02:45.54`	`vhaarr`	`like`
`02:45.59`	`vhaarr`	`Priest 1 Ready`
`02:46.03`	`vhaarr`	`Priest 2 Ready`
`02:46.04`	`vhaarr`	`etc`
`02:46.12`	`vhaarr`	`(with druids, paladins and shamans too)`
`02:46.26`	`vhaarr`	`When someone gets a debuff, "Ready" is replaced by a 1 minute countdown`
`02:46.41`	`vhaarr`	`And the one using the mod whispers the next in line "Heal now!"`
`02:46.47`	`vhaarr`	`and the one after him "Get ready!"`
`02:47.20`	`vhaarr`	`When the mod is enabled, it parses the raid and populates the healer list, and whispers 2 people "You are the first healer." and "You are the second healer."`
`02:47.33`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: How's that?`
`02:47.54`	`Kebinusan`	`vhaarr would be neat to have a sync'd list so everyone could see wehre they were in it and whatnot`
`02:48.12`	`vhaarr`	`Kebinusan: I know, that would be nice, which is why I haven't been arsed to make it yet.`
`02:48.38`	`vhaarr`	`Kebinusan: If you take a look at the code, you'll see there are some code related to that scattered about.`
`02:48.41`	`vhaarr`	`AceComm stuff.`
`02:48.52`	`vhaarr`	`s/there are/there is/`
`02:49.51`	`Kebinusan`	`Yeah if I finish wiping in bwl at a reasonable hour`
`02:51.34`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: How does it look compared to your mod?`
`02:56.41`	`CIA-11`	`03tardmrr 07Ace2 * r10021 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/Textures/light.tga: PerfectRaid: Added orb texture.`
`02:56.50`	`eternally777`	`Vhaar, 1 sec`
`02:58.40`	`eternally777`	`Vhaar, originally, I conceptualized my mod being identical to that`
`02:58.48`	`vhaarr`	`cool`
`02:58.51`	`eternally777`	`(hense the name "HealHub")`
`02:58.57`	`vhaarr`	`wut?`
`02:59.08`	`eternally777`	`Since then it's changed drastically. Yeah, check it out in branch, and trunk.`
`02:59.23`	`vhaarr`	`I just noticed it now.`
`03:00.02`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: So what is the goal of HealHub?`
`03:00.23`	`eternally777`	`Here's a screenshot: http://www.wishiwascool.com/images/HHListTest.jpg`
`03:00.32`	`vhaarr`	`The requested URL /images/HHListTest.jpg was not found on this server.`
`03:00.38`	`eternally777`	`bleh`
`03:01.01`	`eternally777`	`http://www.wishiwascool.com/images/HealHub/HHListTest.jpg`
`03:01.41`	`vhaarr`	`So it is basically the exact same thing, you just added a bit more features to it?`
`03:01.45`	`eternally777`	`In the end, it'll have timer bars rather than chaning BG colors for the time remaining on a healers CD.`
`03:01.49`	`eternally777`	`Yeah`
`03:01.52`	`eternally777`	`I expanded.`
`03:01.57`	`vhaarr`	`That's just great.`
`03:02.02`	`eternally777`	`It notifies via Ace messages`
`03:02.11`	`eternally777`	`when healers start the heal and when they land the heal`
`03:02.25`	`eternally777`	`Console printouts i mean, so it doesn't spam the caster who's healing.`
`03:02.40`	`eternally777`	`the "XX.X" will eventually be the time, obviously`
`03:02.43`	`eternally777`	`oh yeah, and...`
`03:03.04`	`eternally777`	`http://www.wishiwascool.com/images/HealHub/HHPrintOut2.jpg`
`03:03.24`	`vhaarr`	`Yes, I was planning to implement that, too.`
`03:03.26`	`eternally777`	`You can do that before the fight to broadcast the rotation to the raid channel`
`03:03.40`	`Kemayo`	`eternally777: Which chatframe mod are you using there?`
`03:03.48`	`vhaarr`	`Well BW_HealbotAssist works fine now, it just needs more polish.`
`03:03.54`	`vhaarr`	`Like 30min work.`
`03:04.01`	`eternally777`	`Left-clicking on a bar moves the healer up one position in the rotation, right-clicking moves the healers back a spot in the rotation.`
`03:04.06`	`eternally777`	`That's the default chat frame.`
`03:04.16`	`eternally777`	`Although I wanted the user to be able to change that eventually.`
`03:04.20`	`Kemayo`	`It looks... different.`
`03:04.35`	`vhaarr`	`idChat*`
`03:04.41`	`eternally777`	`the font?`
`03:04.58`	`eternally777`	`ClearFont, with DeveloperTools, idTimeStamps`
`03:05.10`	`eternally777`	`and a few misc. other id chat mods`
`03:06.28`	`eternally777`	`HealHub would be a lot farther along if I could test it more. It's hard to convince guildies to use it on the one or two days that we do loatheb attempts each week, since it's still buggy`
`03:06.40`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Well, you probably don't want to stop working on HealHub now, but my thoughts on it can be summed up in 2 words: "bloat" and "cool".`
`03:07.46`	`eternally777`	`Actually, I knew I was writing too slow, and have often considered scrapping it. It is a lot more then what I had anticipated it being, and this is the first mod I've ever written, so it was more for a learning experience.`
`03:08.05`	`eternally777`	`Is your rotation modifable?`
`03:08.12`	`eternally777`	`or is it just a set healer order`
`03:08.14`	`vhaarr`	`No, why would it be?`
`03:08.21`	`vhaarr`	`Makes no difference who heals when.`
`03:08.29`	`*** join/#wowace sbu (n=sb@dslb-084-056-130-018.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`03:08.57`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Convince me otherwise and I'll fix it.`
`03:09.57`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Feel free to work on BW_HBA.`
`03:10.01`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: It needs 2-3 things.`
`03:10.33`	`vhaarr`	`1. A BigWigs timerbar for your own Corrupted Mind debuff., 2. Leader and participant modes`
`03:10.44`	`vhaarr`	`3. Ignore list for players`
`03:10.58`	`vhaarr`	`Like "keep X out of the healing rotation".`
`03:11.25`	`vhaarr`	`#1 and #3 are _really_ simple, and #2 is easier for you than for me, since you already have experience with AceComm.`
`03:11.26`	`vhaarr`	`I don't.`
`03:11.31`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-191.west.biz.rr.com)`
`03:11.31`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`03:11.40`	`eternally777`	`I see.`
`03:11.49`	`eternally777`	`I'm tempted to try that.`
`03:11.57`	`eternally777`	`Why would you want an ignore list?`
`03:12.05`	`Tem`	`is there no way to hide the maintank frames in ora2?`
`03:12.09`	`ckknight`	`back`
`03:12.18`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Shadow priests and such.`
`03:12.22`	`eternally777`	`wb Ckk.`
`03:12.27`	`vhaarr`	`hey ckk`
`03:12.34`	`eternally777`	`I see.`
`03:12.53`	`eternally777`	`My guild likes to customize the rotation for each specific raid, due to the differences in class casting times.`
`03:13.02`	`vhaarr`	`Why?`
`03:13.57`	`eternally777`	`I don't know the specific reasons, but we found that if we put a string of say.. druids in a row, all casting their max rank heals, then the heals would be too spread out to keep the MT alive.`
`03:14.29`	`vhaarr`	`Well, the order in BW_HBA is "magically and unexplainably random".`
`03:14.35`	`eternally777`	`Plus it may annoy some people with "leader" personalities to have their rotation predetermined for them.`
`03:14.47`	`eternally777`	`I see`
`03:14.55`	`vhaarr`	`Unless you happen to put all your druids in one group and all your priests in another, in which case it would probably not be very random.`
`03:15.02`	`Tem`	`fuckinA`
`03:15.06`	`Tem`	`I hate these frames`
`03:15.09`	`Tem`	`I want them gone`
`03:15.29`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Send them to me, then.`
`03:15.30`	`eternally777`	`./script <frame>:Hide()`
`03:15.33`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Those leader people.`
`03:15.42`	`eternally777`	`haha`
`03:16.01`	`ckknight`	`thanks for pointing out the bug, eternally777`
`03:16.01`	`eternally777`	`BW_HBA is just a list?`
`03:16.04`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r10022 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: AceComm - bugfix`
`03:16.08`	`ckknight`	`fixed now.`
`03:16.08`	`eternally777`	`Woot`
`03:16.12`	`eternally777`	`It wasn't my fault.`
`03:16.20`	`eternally777`	`Ty for the fix Ckk`
`03:16.31`	`Kaelten`	`gnight guys`
`03:16.33`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: In essence, yes.`
`03:16.33`	`Kaelten`	`hey guys check out the wiki and set the skin to wowace and tell me what you think`
`03:16.36`	`ckknight`	`g'night, Kael`
`03:16.37`	`vhaarr`	`gn Kaelten`
`03:16.41`	`Kaelten`	`I'll see you all later`
`03:16.41`	`eternally777`	`later kael`
`03:17.05`	`vhaarr`	`how do I set the skin?`
`03:17.08`	`vhaarr`	`Do I need an account?`
`03:17.20`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`03:17.24`	`vhaarr`	`gah`
`03:19.52`	`eternally777`	`I'm looking for a good method for a mod to find out who else in a raid has the same mod`
`03:20.06`	`Tekkub`	`send an addon message`
`03:20.16`	`Tekkub`	`if you receive said message, send a response`
`03:20.19`	`eternally777`	`Using AceComm. So far, I've just come up with everyone broadcasting a message when they join the raid, saying their version.`
`03:20.33`	`*** join/#wowace PProvost (n=PProvost@pool-71-112-41-198.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net)`
`03:20.34`	`eternally777`	`But that turns into a ton of spam, really fast.`
`03:20.51`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`03:21.03`	`ckknight`	`I suppose, but it's reasonably cheap`
`03:21.24`	`Tekkub`	`how is it? you get at most 39 replies...`
`03:21.41`	`eternally777`	`exactly`
`03:21.43`	`Tekkub`	`then everyone knows everyone else that has it`
`03:21.58`	`eternally777`	`that's 39 messages, all at once. To me, that's spam. Maybe not to a computer.`
`03:22.21`	`Tekkub`	`39 messages, all at once, exactly the same, from the same perosn, when only one is needed, is spam`
`03:22.27`	`*** join/#wowace Merentar (n=m@bas11-montrealak-1177668271.dsl.bell.ca)`
`03:22.41`	`Tekkub`	`you have 39 different senders and that's a values you need to know, each message is unique`
`03:25.33`	`*** join/#wowace nekoh_ (n=horizon@pD9E0097A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`03:27.18`	*** join/#wowace frus` (i=frus@082-146-096-092.dyn.adsl.xs4all.be)
`03:29.17`	`ckknight`	`you shouldn't worry about the spam, ChatThrottleLib takes care of it for you`
`03:29.33`	`ckknight`	`if that's your concern`
`03:33.48`	`Tekkub`	`got that backwards ckk`
`03:33.54`	`Tekkub`	`he's worried aboun inbound spam`
`03:33.57`	`Tekkub`	`not sending`
`03:34.07`	`ckknight`	`see, that's what ChatThrottleLib prevents`
`03:34.20`	`ckknight`	`by limiting outbound, you limit other people's inbound`
`03:34.50`	`Tekkub`	`erm... yea but he's counting 39 people sending one message as spam`
`03:34.56`	`eternally777`	`But then, wouldn't I not know some people's version?`
`03:34.58`	`Tekkub`	`hard to throttle a single message`
`03:35.01`	`eternally777`	`yeah`
`03:35.05`	`eternally777`	`""`
`03:35.11`	`ckknight`	`um`
`03:35.12`	`ckknight`	`meh`
`03:35.22`	`Tekkub`	`shrug I still say it's not spam`
`03:35.40`	`ckknight`	`yea, spam is really only when it's the same exact message with no new information`
`03:35.41`	`Tekkub`	`spam is uselessly repeating the same info, or sending info taht's not wanted in the first place`
`03:36.11`	`Kebinusan`	`Is there a way to swtch to a chat frame w/o using the mouse... my mouse battery died and im looking for a /script command or something to set the active chat frame`
`03:36.44`	`*** join/#wowace Merentar- (n=m@bas11-montrealak-1177575735.dsl.bell.ca)`
`03:37.12`	`ckknight`	`probably.`
`03:44.12`	`Gngsk`	`/script ChatFrameX:Show(); ChatFrameZ:Hide()`
`03:46.13`	`eternally777`	`is there a game function to logout?`
`03:47.23`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10023 10BigWigs_HealbotAssist/ (BigWigs_HealbotAssist.lua BigWigs_HealbotAssist.toc libs/): BigWigs_HealbotAssist: This should be a working version.`
`03:49.00`	`ckknight`	`eternally777, Logout()`
`03:49.13`	`ckknight`	`requires a hardware event`
`03:49.30`	`eternally777`	`kk`
`03:49.43`	`eternally777`	`Anyone know how RDX 6 does it?`
`03:49.49`	`mjc`	`RDX?`
`03:50.04`	`Tem`	`does what?`
`03:50.09`	`vhaarr`	`Why the hell would RDX log you out?`
`03:50.12`	`vhaarr`	`Isn't it a bossmod?`
`03:50.16`	`eternally777`	`RDX6 has the ability to let a raid leader log you out`
`03:50.26`	`vhaarr`	`That's the worst piece of crap I've heard.`
`03:50.30`	`eternally777`	`It's practically an operating system in its own right`
`03:50.37`	`eternally777`	`within WoW`
`03:50.46`	`vhaarr`	`I'll gquit any guild that uses RDX, thank you.`
`03:51.18`	`eternally777`	`I'd actually really like to see a free, aced version.`
`03:51.27`	`vhaarr`	`BigWigs?`
`03:51.32`	`eternally777`	`Like an OS, it should have its own minimum system requirements.`
`03:51.38`	`eternally777`	`No, BigWigs is just a boss warner`
`03:51.45`	`vhaarr`	`And RDX is whaT?`
`03:51.49`	`eternally777`	`RDX is a complete raid management suite.`
`03:52.53`	`eternally777`	`http://www.rdx-raid.com/`
`03:53.00`	`Merentar-`	`You can program Keybinds through LUA`
`03:53.07`	`Tem`	`I will personally kick anyone who makes an "ace'd RDX" in the balls`
`03:53.13`	`Merentar-`	`therefor you can LOGOUT anyone by replacing all your keybinds with "LOGOUT" procedure`
`03:53.17`	`eternally777`	`It costs money.`
`03:53.25`	`Tem`	`(and then ban them from the forums)`
`03:53.30`	`vhaarr`	`To me that says "RDX is a mod that requires alot of setup, alot of memory, probably has tons of features your guild does not need."`
`03:53.45`	`eternally777`	`No, it really has some AWESOME features`
`03:53.45`	`Tem`	`it's a bunch of crap is what it is`
`03:53.50`	`Tem`	`"awesome"`
`03:53.51`	`Tem`	`lawl`
`03:53.55`	`vhaarr`	`And most importantly; "fucking locks you in so you can never switch to other mods".`
`03:53.56`	`eternally777`	`Do you play a healer?`
`03:54.23`	`Merentar-`	`RDX is healer focused`
`03:54.36`	`eternally777`	`In a sense, yes.`
`03:54.58`	`eternally777`	`But then again, healers depend more on mods than most other classes.`
`03:55.07`	`Merentar-`	`Can't deny it's the best Raid Leader / Healer tools out there but problem is that it's not SELF SERVE. you have to code each boss mod, most of the actual UI from basic templates and stuff`
`03:55.16`	`Merentar-`	`Also EVERYONE must use it otherwise it doesn't work 100%`
`03:55.25`	`Merentar-`	`It has it's drawbacks`
`03:55.31`	`eternally777`	`I'm sure it does`
`03:55.35`	`Tem`	`I reiterate`
`03:55.36`	`ckknight`	`what is specifically wrong with RDX, Tem?`
`03:55.37`	`Tem`	`lawl`
`03:55.51`	`Merentar-`	`Extremely intrusive`
`03:55.57`	`Merentar-`	`Raid Leader will FORCE your UI template`
`03:56.00`	`Tem`	`among other things`
`03:56.04`	`eternally777`	`Tem, you need to use the mod. Don't judge it on the fact that it can log you out, for 1.`
`03:56.15`	`vhaarr`	`I will judge it by that alone.`
`03:56.23`	`Tem`	`I'm phillosophically opposed to it's mere existance`
`03:56.29`	`Merentar-`	`It's extremely elitist`
`03:56.31`	`ckknight`	`you can also force a logout by sending \n across the chat stream`
`03:56.40`	`Tem`	`(please excuse my spelling, I'm tabbing in and out of a BWL raid)`
`03:56.53`	`eternally777`	`I think instead of bashing its existence, we could learn from it. Some people would kill to have some of hte features of RDX, all of which are obviously duplicatable, for free.`
`03:57.04`	`vhaarr`	`Then give me a list.`
`03:57.22`	`Tem`	`I disagree`
`03:57.23`	`vhaarr`	`I'm sure we could ninja the killer features.`
`03:57.27`	`eternally777`	`If you play a priest, just download RDX5`
`03:57.31`	`vhaarr`	`If there are any.`
`03:57.37`	`eternally777`	`and you'll see the features on your first raid.`
`03:57.41`	`Tem`	`there aren't any`
`03:57.47`	`Tem`	`everything it has has been done before`
`03:57.53`	`vhaarr`	`I thought so.`
`03:57.57`	`Tem`	`(though not always the same way)`
`03:58.00`	`Merentar-`	`Well for starters it's a fully integrated raid suit (Buff, Emergency, Frames, Decursive, XRS) in a single mod using a single data structure to pass info along`
`03:58.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I need a mod that lets me log my opponents out in BGs`
`03:58.42`	`eternally777`	`it can transmit entire raid boss modules through chat`
`03:58.49`	`haste`	`morning`
`03:58.53`	`eternally777`	`so that a player can "download" a module from the raid leader`
`03:58.56`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Really?`
`03:58.59`	`eternally777`	`BigWigs would benefit there.`
`03:59.07`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: BigWigs can essentially do that, too, you know.`
`03:59.12`	`eternally777`	`I know`
`03:59.14`	`Merentar-`	`During Naxx progression ... the raid leader codes a Boss Mod depending on his last experiment ... sends the whole thing through chat to all raiders at once`
`03:59.18`	`Tem`	`<sarcasm> zoinks that's a new idea </sarcasm>`
`03:59.30`	`eternally777`	`Tem, where is it implemented?`
`03:59.36`	`eternally777`	`You're so fast to shoot this down.`
`03:59.39`	`Tem`	`on my harddrive`
`03:59.43`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`03:59.49`	`Tem`	`I wrote something like that like 6 moths ago`
`03:59.50`	`haste`	`I know of guilds that have the same type of bossmods`
`04:00.08`	`eternally777`	`SS or it didn't happen :P`
`04:00.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`if your guild needs bossmods on the fly`
`04:00.44`	`eternally777`	`Think about the potential we have here, rather than about how much RDX and all its features "suck" or have already been conceived elsewhere.`
`04:00.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it doesn't deserve to be doing that kind of encounter`
`04:01.13`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: I think it's a great idea that you write a list of the things in RDX that rocks and post it somewhere.`
`04:01.26`	`vhaarr`	`Then we can all shoot it down and laugh at it.`
`04:01.46`	`vhaarr`	`Which is most likely what is going to happen, but who knows; maybe there is something there we can ninja.`
`04:02.31`	`haste`	`hyperChipmunk: I don't see the logic there btw :p`
`04:03.02`	`vhaarr`	`hyperChipmunk: What if you're trying a world first-fifth kill, where there is no bossmod yet?`
`04:03.07`	`eternally777`	`the features are all listed on the rdx site, which I linked earlier`
`04:03.07`	`Merentar-`	`Does BigWig have every Boss of Naxxramas coded yet ?`
`04:03.20`	`vhaarr`	`Merentar-: No, it needs Kel'Thuzad.`
`04:03.49`	`eternally777`	`Does it have Sapphiron already?`
`04:03.49`	`vhaarr`	`On my HDD, yes.`
`04:03.49`	`*** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@dynadsl-080-228-76-024.ewetel.net)`
`04:03.49`	`hyperChipmunk`	`vhaarr: you do it just like EVERY OTHER MMO EVER MADE`
`04:03.54`	`Merentar-`	`so that guild who's doing Kel currently shouldn't in it's right mind do it cause it's not coded`
`04:04.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and you even have voicechat now`
`04:04.10`	`vhaarr`	`hyperChipmunk: Without bossmods? :)`
`04:04.22`	`haste`	`Merentar-: are there any other guilds then DnT that has downed Sapphiron tho'?`
`04:04.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`exactly`
`04:04.27`	`vhaarr`	`Boring.`
`04:04.30`	`eternally777`	`bossmods help eliminate the lag factor in most of the situations.`
`04:04.39`	`vhaarr`	`haste: No, but other guilds will get him down tomorrow.`
`04:04.42`	`eternally777`	`Sapph's down? Wow I'm lagging on my news`
`04:04.44`	`Merentar-`	`They are using RDX too`
`04:04.59`	`haste`	`~rdx5`
`04:05.03`	`purl`	`RDX is more like a ship, that was just been hit by a canon`
`04:05.03`	`haste`	`:3`
`04:05.11`	`vhaarr`	`lol`
`04:05.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`is huge liek ps3?`
`04:05.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`canon?`
`04:05.21`	`hyperChipmunk`	`~dict canon`
`04:05.30`	`Merentar-`	`All the world first/faction first guilds are using a RDX version so it HAS to have good features`
`04:05.37`	`hyperChipmunk`	`IT WAS HIT BY STANDARDIZATION`
`04:05.43`	`vhaarr`	`hyperChipmunk: have you never seen people throwing canes at ships?`
`04:05.43`	`haste`	`clearly a typo`
`04:05.49`	`eternally777`	`Else they'd be using CTRA and BigWigs no doubt.`
`04:06.02`	`FISKER_Q`	`hyperChipmunk is cool`
`04:06.02`	`FISKER_Q`	`:o`
`04:06.13`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's also called "The Open Source Assault"`
`04:06.30`	`haste`	`purl: no, rdx5 is RDX is more like a ship, that was just been hit by a cannon`
`04:06.32`	`purl`	`haste: okay`
`04:06.43`	`hyperChipmunk`	`even now, our agents are hitting IE7 and other MS crap with canons upon canons`
`04:06.51`	`vhaarr`	`Maybe RDX is a known ship in Asia, where people are known to throw Canon cameras at eachother instead of frying pans, etc, because they have so many anyway.`
`04:07.02`	`Tem`	`oh jesus`
`04:07.16`	`Tem`	`SWStats has eaten 4MiB of memory`
`04:07.24`	`Tem`	`just on RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE events`
`04:07.28`	`haste`	`RDX ate more`
`04:07.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`=D`
`04:07.42`	`haste`	`I had 350 KiB/s increase with RDX5 enabled, alone in the raid`
`04:07.47`	`haste`	`imagen that with more then me with it :<`
`04:08.09`	`FISKER_Q`	`:I`
`04:08.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`when you imagine, you can achieve anything`
`04:08.17`	`haste`	`indeed`
`04:08.20`	`hyperChipmunk`	`let's hook it up with Sky`
`04:08.27`	`FISKER_Q`	`isn't it technically illegal to make a mod you pay for?`
`04:08.30`	`eternally777`	`Hense the reason I argue for an Ace'd version of its best features`
`04:08.34`	`haste`	`Damage Meters will probably get hit by AL now also :D`
`04:08.41`	`FISKER_Q`	`not illegal of course, against the tos :P`
`04:08.43`	`haste`	`lots and lots of cosmos libs`
`04:08.46`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: So, make a post with a nice list.`
`04:08.50`	`haste`	`Sea, Earth, Khaos!`
`04:08.53`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: Saying things here won't get anything done.`
`04:08.57`	`Tem`	`FISKER_Q, that's being heavily debated now`
`04:08.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Sky!`
`04:09.08`	`eternally777`	`sigh, I was trying to avoid it, but ok.`
`04:09.20`	`haste`	`yeah, sky ofc`
`04:09.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it goes, "Sea, Earth, Sky...together, they join forces to produce total Khaos!"`
`04:09.38`	`haste`	`don't forget his version of AceComm!`
`04:09.49`	`hyperChipmunk`	`2.05? =)`
`04:10.05`	`Tem`	`haste, he's already got DamageMeters-AL`
`04:10.22`	`haste`	`Tem: I know, just waiting for him to add all the other stuff`
`04:10.27`	`Tem`	`oh, btw,`
`04:10.30`	`haste`	`It already has Telepathy`
`04:10.47`	`Tem`	`that 4Mib that SWstats ate was with it disabled`
`04:10.54`	`haste`	`haha`
`04:11.07`	`haste`	`doesn't SWStats break other combat log add ons?`
`04:11.19`	`FISKER_Q`	`haven't seen it do so yet`
`04:11.20`	`haste`	`or have the author removed the replacing for global vars?`
`04:11.44`	`Tem`	`what's MCELE?`
`04:11.56`	`vhaarr`	`~dict MCELE`
`04:12.02`	`haste`	`~wtf MCELE`
`04:12.03`	`vhaarr`	`purl: nub`
`04:12.19`	`Tem`	`it's part of an addon`
`04:12.27`	`vhaarr`	`http://www.mcele.com/romans.htm`
`04:12.47`	`Tem`	`MCELEventFrame`
`04:13.46`	`PProvost`	`Question for the perf experts: Does returning a tuple (return a,b) create a hidden table behind the scenes?`
`04:13.55`	`PProvost`	`I'm guessing yes.`
`04:14.25`	`Tekkub`	`it doesn't return a table unlelss you return a table`
`04:14.36`	`Tekkub`	`return {a, b} <--- table made`
`04:14.43`	`Tekkub`	`return a, b <--- no table`
`04:15.09`	`PProvost`	`I'm wondering if Lua creates a table for you internally and could cause a bit of a memory leak.`
`04:15.18`	`PProvost`	`If it was called from a timer for example.`
`04:15.18`	`Tekkub`	`no leak`
`04:15.20`	`PProvost`	`ok`
`04:15.50`	`Tekkub`	`if it's got internal table it's managing them on it's own`
`04:15.57`	`Tekkub`	`don't worry about it`
`04:17.11`	`PProvost`	`Ok. Thanks.`
`04:17.18`	`Tem`	`iirc, it just pushes crap to the stack`
`04:19.06`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire 07Ace2 * r10024 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Initial support for showing your selected target. Not sure I like it.`
`04:20.51`	`PProvost`	`Tekkub, should I Reclaim the table I get from Gratuity:GetText(...)??`
`04:21.02`	`PProvost`	`It looks like I should...`
`04:21.12`	`Tekkub`	`if you're not saving any refs, yes`
`04:21.25`	`Tekkub`	`use GetText sparingly`
`04:21.41`	`Tekkub`	`only use it if Find or GetLine won't work for you`
`04:21.49`	`*** join/#wowace eternally777 (n=eternall@pool-71-254-116-199.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net)`
`04:22.03`	`eternally777`	`My PC crashed halfway through typing the post -.-`
`04:22.09`	`PProvost`	`Ok. Let me see if I can switch to something else.`
`04:22.12`	`eternally777`	`Now I'm writing the short version.`
`04:22.15`	`PProvost`	`(Find or GetLine)`
`04:23.23`	`mjc`	`bleh`
`04:23.49`	`mjc`	~seen ag`
`04:23.56`	`purl`	ag` <n=Andreas@0x535bbf4c.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 28m 41s ago, saying: 'But I want to know stuff about the game Cairenn :(('.
`04:24.32`	`*** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BD63C.versanet.de)`
`04:24.40`	`PProvost`	`FYI: Gratuity:GetLine(...) isn't in the wiki`
`04:25.07`	`haste`	`it isn't?`
`04:25.28`	`Tekkub`	`no I havn't updated the API`
`04:25.41`	`Tekkub`	`you could always just slip it in instead of telling me it's not there`
`04:26.03`	`Tem`	`ownt`
`04:26.06`	`haste`	`:3`
`04:27.53`	`haste`	`hmm, damn japanese symbols!`
`04:28.00`	`haste`	`I can't search after the songs on my mp3 list :(`
`04:30.29`	`ckknight`	`I think the RDX thing is sour grapes to a lot of you people`
`04:30.49`	`PProvost`	`Good point Tekkub. Done.`
`04:31.01`	`eternally777`	`ckk, ?`
`04:31.08`	`PProvost`	`Wasn't sure how you felt about people messing with your stuff.`
`04:31.21`	`Tekkub`	`it's a wiki tard`
`04:31.27`	`Tekkub`	`it can be undone`
`04:31.40`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`04:31.45`	`PProvost`	`I know. I was just being polite.`
`04:31.49`	`PProvost`	`Since I had you here anyway.`
`04:32.03`	`Tekkub`	`the point of the wiki is that you can edit it`
`04:32.12`	`Tekkub`	`if the edit is unwanted you'll find out`
`04:32.24`	`Tekkub`	`until then, assume it's open, because it is`
`04:32.25`	`ckknight`	`people are putting it down "just because", without even trying it`
`04:32.44`	`PProvost`	`I know all about wikis. I also know I've seen you chew people out for looking in the wrong direction.`
`04:32.59`	`PProvost`	`As I said, I was just trying to be polite.`
`04:33.22`	`Tekkub`	`:P since when are we polite around here`
`04:33.38`	`ckknight`	`~inflatable dildos`
`04:33.40`	`purl`	`Oh yea, stretch that hole!`
`04:33.43`	`Tekkub`	`anyway.. back to bashing my head on these wiki templates`
`04:33.46`	`eternally777`	`Ckk, I agree. That's what the post is for :-P`
`04:33.52`	`ckknight`	`post?`
`04:33.56`	`Tekkub`	`the wiki hates me today`
`04:33.57`	`eternally777`	`working on it`
`04:34.31`	`snurre`	`Tekkub: yes, the wiki is trying hard to blend in with the rest of us`
`04:34.48`	`Tekkub`	`time to rule with my new iron fist`
`04:34.51`	`ckknight`	`Remember, the Terrorists hate our Freedom. We'll take it away, step by step, until there's nothing left for them to hate.`
`04:35.04`	`*** kick/#wowace [snurre!n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net] by Tekkub (Obey the fist!)`
`04:35.13`	`Tekkub`	`muahahaha!`
`04:35.16`	`haste`	`abuse!`
`04:35.17`	`*** join/#wowace snurre (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-11-17.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`04:35.22`	`Tekkub`	`okey, got that out of my system`
`04:35.24`	`snurre`	`y'know.. that sounds so dirty`
`04:35.35`	`Tekkub`	`pervert`
`04:35.39`	`snurre`	`thank you`
`04:35.48`	`Tekkub`	`I ain't a fister, don't let the crisco confuse you`
`04:35.54`	`ckknight`	`you kicked him?`
`04:35.58`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: your commit messages leave alot to be wished for`
`04:36.03`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`04:36.10`	`ckknight`	`how do you mean?`
`04:36.10`	`vhaarr`	`"AceComm - bugfix"`
`04:36.15`	`ckknight`	`oh yea`
`04:36.20`	`Tekkub`	`yes but, unlike someone else, I made it clear I was fooling around :P`
`04:36.22`	`ckknight`	`just check the line number associated with it`
`04:36.29`	`ckknight`	`it was a bug that eternally777 got. I fixed it.`
`04:36.38`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: You mean on http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace/.message/497f49 ?`
`04:36.53`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Or on http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua ?`
`04:37.16`	`ckknight`	`I'd've just run a diff comparing the revisions`
`04:37.31`	`haste`	`why make a difF?`
`04:37.37`	`haste`	`just check the google groups :3`
`04:37.40`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: I'd have to check it out, then.`
`04:38.01`	`vhaarr`	`I miss svnweb.`
`04:38.18`	`haste`	`vhaarr: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace << !`
`04:38.19`	`vhaarr`	`haste: Google groups? Enlighten me :)`
`04:38.28`	`haste`	`I'm from the future!`
`04:38.47`	`haste`	`I am in <Cuddle Vendor> you know?`
`04:39.02`	`vhaarr`	`:D`
`04:39.28`	`haste`	`http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_083106_205457.png :3`
`04:39.34`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Some projects have nice rules like "no checkin without a bug reference" coupled with "no bug closing without an approved patch attached to it".`
`04:39.48`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`04:39.49`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: It takes some getting used to and looks tedious at first, but it's good (tm).`
`04:39.50`	`ckknight`	`not us, apparently.`
`04:40.13`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`04:41.25`	`vhaarr`	`oh, oh, what sound is that? It sounds just like the silence following coffee in the making!`
`04:42.03`	`vhaarr`	`cleanes his nev-r-wash coffeemug with some water and his index finger`
`04:45.37`	`haste`	`wait a second!`
`04:45.43`	`haste`	`wth are you doing up now vhaarr :p ?`
`04:47.26`	`eternally777`	`Posting the first part of my RDX post now :)`
`04:47.35`	`ckknight`	`what post?`
`04:47.36`	`ckknight`	`link?`
`04:47.59`	`ckknight`	`I'd contribute to a raid addon, but I don't raid, cause I don't play wow`
`04:48.04`	`ckknight`	`so that puts me in a bind`
`04:49.32`	`vhaarr`	`haste :P`
`04:49.43`	`vhaarr`	`What are YOU doing up ?!`
`04:49.53`	`eternally777`	`bummer, I can't post a reservation post`
`04:49.57`	`eternally777`	`for 15 mintues :P`
`04:49.59`	`haste`	`I travel back and forth between here and hiof in Sarpsborg`
`04:50.01`	`haste`	`which is a 45min drive`
`04:50.09`	`ckknight`	`forums: Server is busy, please try again`
`04:50.10`	`ckknight`	`:-(`
`04:50.24`	`eternally777`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2097.0.html`
`04:50.42`	`Tem`	`well, I just found 90% of my memory problems`
`04:50.51`	`Tem`	`MSBT`
`04:51.00`	`haste`	`It's that evil :3 ?`
`04:51.06`	`eternally777`	`I can edit my thread, right?`
`04:51.12`	`haste`	`yes`
`04:51.21`	`kergoth`	`Tem: how so? i see a spike the first combat after reload, but thats about it, since it recycles the tables`
`04:51.36`	`Tem`	`it does bad things with your damage`
`04:52.25`	`JoshBorke`	`night all :-)`
`04:52.25`	`*** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`04:53.01`	`Tem`	`it's eaten 4.5MiB on CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE alone`
`04:53.10`	`Tem`	`I see spikes up to 120kib/s`
`04:53.19`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1856.msg39980.html#msg39980`
`04:53.30`	`Mikma`	`people like that can go and eat their head :D`
`04:53.41`	`CIA-11`	`03joshborke * r10025 10HealWatch/ (6 files):`
`04:53.41`	`CIA-11`	`HealWatch:`
`04:53.41`	`CIA-11`	`- fixed the coms bug`
`04:53.41`	`CIA-11`	`- added a sticky label option (don't use it, it's broken)`
`04:54.16`	`Tem`	`I get 20kib/s just by my party being in combat`
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`04:58.36`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: I do not understand the post, there are no actual enhancement or addon proposals?`
`05:00.20`	`eternally777`	`not done yet :P`
`05:00.31`	`vhaarr`	`well, I'm talking about #1 and #2`
`05:00.42`	`eternally777`	`I'm just laying out the nice features.`
`05:00.43`	`vhaarr`	`what is "the timer window"?`
`05:00.47`	`Kebinusan`	`Tem, I dont hav eany of those kind of problems with msbt`
`05:00.50`	`eternally777`	`It's an "extended" list, as you mentioned.`
`05:00.58`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: huh? :P`
`05:01.12`	`vhaarr`	`ah, you mean the post`
`05:01.13`	`eternally777`	`http://www.wishiwascool.com/images/RDX/RDXTimer.jpg`
`05:01.17`	`eternally777`	`That's the timer window`
`05:01.33`	`Tem`	`Kebinusan, I had an out of date version. I'm trying it with a newer version`
`05:01.44`	`Kebinusan`	`yea, the timer window is sexy honestly`
`05:01.48`	`Kebinusan`	`ah`
`05:02.20`	`eternally777`	`Yeah, such a simple idea, but it's something I've never seen before.`
`05:02.45`	`vhaarr`	`I've been meaning to create a arbitrary timer thing for BW`
`05:02.55`	`Kebinusan`	`A stopwatch is pretty damn handy`
`05:02.57`	`vhaarr`	`where you can start timers yourself at any time and just let them run`
`05:03.00`	`Mikma`	`oh kyahx you hoe! you have hotlinked my picture in ludwig thread xD`
`05:03.04`	`Kebinusan`	`for some reason alot of bigwigs things dont trigger on combat start too`
`05:03.15`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`05:03.15`	`Kebinusan`	`so you still need to time like the first 30 seconds on drakes for a wing buffet`
`05:03.18`	`vhaarr`	`Kebinusan: What do you mean?`
`05:03.22`	`ckknight`	`I want to do something right now`
`05:03.33`	`ckknight`	`what is left to be converted to Ace2 that people need?`
`05:03.34`	`Kebinusan`	`Convert AceTimers to Candybar`
`05:03.44`	`Kebinusan`	`And ace2`
`05:04.14`	`vhaarr`	`or MrPlow!`
`05:04.24`	`haste`	`I put my vote on MrPlow`
`05:04.29`	`Kebinusan`	`vhaarr, or bulkmail, but acetimer would be nice`
`05:04.38`	`Kebinusan`	`but acegui2 probably isnt ready yet`
`05:04.40`	`vhaarr`	`Kebinusan: Get with the times, use Gmail.`
`05:04.48`	`haste`	`Kebinusan: BulkMail is Ace2, but it uses AceGUI`
`05:04.49`	`vhaarr`	`;)`
`05:05.09`	`ckknight`	`okay, so MrPlow or AceTimer?`
`05:05.19`	`vhaarr`	`or CorkFu, but Tekkub might kill you then.`
`05:05.21`	`Kebinusan`	`~8ball Convert AceTimer to Ace2?`
`05:05.23`	`purl`	`Are you smoking crack?`
`05:05.26`	`Tem`	`AG2 is not ready yet`
`05:05.28`	`haste`	`AceTimer is without a author tho'`
`05:05.37`	`ckknight`	`Tem, what's the status and what can I do to help?`
`05:05.38`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah thats true, its kinda in limbo`
`05:05.40`	`haste`	`and Wobin is back so he probably does MrPlow soonish`
`05:05.43`	`Tem`	`I'd be working on it right now, but fuckin guild is short mages for BWL`
`05:05.46`	`vhaarr`	`AceTimer should die and be completely reimplemented from scratch.`
`05:05.50`	`Kebinusan`	`it uses timex too`
`05:05.51`	`ckknight`	`I'll play your mage.`
`05:05.55`	`ckknight`	`jk`
`05:06.03`	`ckknight`	`what does AceTimer do?`
`05:06.03`	`Kebinusan`	`vhaarr, yeah you're probably right`
`05:06.12`	`ckknight`	`I never used it`
`05:06.14`	`haste`	`ckknight: Visuell display of various spells`
`05:06.14`	`Tekkub`	`spell timers ckk`
`05:06.20`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`05:06.22`	`Kebinusan`	`Timer bars for abilities, like spell timers for dots`
`05:06.24`	`ckknight`	`nah, I don't wanna.`
`05:06.25`	`Tekkub`	`you know, Stun Watch`
`05:06.31`	`vhaarr`	`Reimplementing it is easy anyway, don't waste time on it.`
`05:06.37`	`ckknight`	`I should make AceEvent's scheduling more efficient.`
`05:06.43`	`vhaarr`	`With SpellStatus and SEEmbedAura, etc.`
`05:06.48`	`ckknight`	`or at least do tests on it.`
`05:06.51`	`Tekkub`	`I think I've almost got the wiki box complete`
`05:06.55`	`Tekkub`	`and I forgot laundry...`
`05:07.02`	`Tekkub`	`I'm gonna be up anothe hour now... :)`
`05:07.05`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: MrPlow! or CorkFu.`
`05:07.11`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:07.16`	`ckknight`	`who wrote MrPlow?`
`05:07.17`	`ckknight`	`Wobin?`
`05:07.19`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`05:07.22`	`ckknight`	`yea...`
`05:07.23`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`05:07.25`	`Kebinusan`	`hmm let me logout and see what still requires ace`
`05:07.30`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna hack on AceEvent for now`
`05:07.35`	`ckknight`	`at least do testing.`
`05:07.52`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Or write AceUnitTest-2.0.`
`05:08.28`	`PProvost`	`Yes! I've been playing with that idea. Need a unit test harness.`
`05:09.00`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`05:09.07`	`Kebinusan`	`ckknight, or right a texture library`
`05:09.12`	`Kebinusan`	`err write`
`05:09.19`	`ckknight`	`I don't really have any experience with proper unit testing`
`05:09.23`	`vhaarr`	`Mods that needs to be redone include PvPLog and CT_MapMod for Ace. CT_MapMod functionality could be included in Fubar_LocationFu.`
`05:09.28`	`PProvost`	`Yeah, the texture thing on the forums is a good idea`
`05:09.47`	`PProvost`	`MapMod would kill another CT for me.`
`05:09.54`	`ckknight`	`what's MapMod do?`
`05:10.02`	`PProvost`	`Gatherer-lite`
`05:10.11`	`ckknight`	`ah, not in LocationFu`
`05:10.19`	`ckknight`	`okay, I'm gonna hack on AceEvent`
`05:10.28`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`05:10.29`	`PProvost`	`It also handles sending loc drops to other people in game.`
`05:10.43`	`Merentar-`	`You send a Coord to another player`
`05:10.50`	`Merentar-`	`X,Y`
`05:11.06`	`Merentar-`	`it includes a note & category`
`05:11.45`	`eternally777`	`post complete`
`05:12.32`	`vhaarr`	`eternally777: cool`
`05:13.14`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Another thing that is needed is a script that runs on the SVN server, checking that the dependencies in the TOCs are listed in the right order.`
`05:13.32`	`ckknight`	`not it`
`05:13.34`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: The way it is now, if a user installs 1 Ace2 mod only, there is a big chance it does not work.`
`05:13.44`	`vhaarr`	`"not it"?`
`05:13.54`	`ckknight`	`someone else do it`
`05:14.36`	`ckknight`	`what's a good lua notepad in-game thing for WoW?`
`05:14.58`	`PProvost`	`lua notepad? for writing lua in game? I use LuaSlinger.`
`05:15.09`	`ckknight`	`can it execute scripts?`
`05:15.11`	`PProvost`	`Yep`
`05:15.30`	`PProvost`	`And if you add ForAllIndentsAndPurposed, you get syntax highlighting and autoindent.`
`05:15.36`	`PProvost`	`It can also respond to events.`
`05:15.43`	`PProvost`	`ithilyn.com`
`05:16.00`	`PProvost`	`*ForAllIndentsAndPurposes`
`05:17.43`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: So it's really 3 addons?`
`05:17.50`	`PProvost`	`What is?`
`05:17.52`	`vhaarr`	`LuaSlinger, LuaSlingerMono and FAIAP?`
`05:18.01`	`PProvost`	`I don't know about the Mono one.`
`05:18.09`	`vhaarr`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5218`
`05:18.13`	`PProvost`	`Lemme look.`
`05:18.37`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, that's what I'm going with`
`05:18.44`	`ckknight`	`and replacing the font with Consolas`
`05:18.44`	`PProvost`	`Mono is a font. FAIAP is syntax highlighting.`
`05:18.52`	`vhaarr`	`I know that.`
`05:18.54`	`PProvost`	`Ok.`
`05:19.11`	`PProvost`	`I don't use the mono thing. But then I run proportional fonts in my IDE anyway. :D`
`05:19.18`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`05:19.26`	`ckknight`	`I use Notepad2`
`05:19.31`	`PProvost`	`Regardless.`
`05:19.32`	`vhaarr`	`I just find it weird that I have to get LuaSlinger from ui.worldofwar.net and LuaSlingerMono from wowinterface.`
`05:19.46`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: cream.sf.net`
`05:19.48`	`PProvost`	`Different author`
`05:20.04`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`05:20.20`	`vhaarr`	`The "Mod not updated in 4 months so now archived" also worries me.`
`05:20.35`	`vhaarr`	`I'm pretty sure there is a recent alternative to this thing.`
`05:20.36`	`PProvost`	`You shouldn't. It runs just fine.`
`05:21.03`	`PProvost`	`Ithilyn posts on his wiki a lot. I know he still uses it. I guess he just hasn't felt the need to update it.`
`05:21.24`	`PProvost`	`vhaarr: Is Cream any good? I've been a vim head for years.`
`05:21.32`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: On Win32, yes.`
`05:21.37`	`vhaarr`	`I use only cream.`
`05:21.47`	`vhaarr`	`On linux I just use gvim.`
`05:21.50`	`Tem`	`hey Tekkub, you around?`
`05:21.54`	`PProvost`	`I use gvim on Win32.`
`05:21.55`	`Tekkub`	`yes`
`05:22.23`	`Tem`	`why is this getting through bossblock?`
`05:22.31`	`Tem`	`* * Shadow Flame Incoming! * *`
`05:22.41`	`vhaarr`	`2x* and not 3x ?`
`05:22.56`	`Tekkub`	`is it _space_`
`05:23.41`	`Tem`	`not sure now, for some reason I can't see it in chat`
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`05:23.52`	`Tekkub`	`hrm...`
`05:24.00`	`Tekkub`	`what channels it coming thru on?`
`05:24.36`	`Tem`	`raidwarning`
`05:24.38`	`FISKER_Q`	`if it's not in the chat it should be raidassist's /rw`
`05:24.42`	`Tem`	`not showing in chat though`
`05:24.42`	`FISKER_Q`	`/rs*`
`05:24.54`	`Tekkub`	`raidwarn overhead?`
`05:24.57`	`Tem`	`aye`
`05:25.03`	`Tem`	`don't see it in chatframe though`
`05:25.08`	`Tekkub`	`and you're certain it's not on raidsay?`
`05:25.28`	`Tekkub`	`if it's raidsay then oRA_RaidSay's bossblock needs turned on`
`05:25.36`	`Tem`	`hmm`
`05:26.10`	`Tekkub`	`maybe BigWigs needs to hook oRA_RaidSay's options in there, people keep getting that one confused...`
`05:26.19`	`Tem`	`oRA2 doesn't seem to have that option`
`05:26.24`	`Tem`	`(or I'm blind)`
`05:26.36`	`Tekkub`	`dunno on 2`
`05:27.01`	`vhaarr`	`Maybe it's just not implemented yet.`
`05:27.19`	`Tem`	`why don't you just hook RaidWarningFrame:AddMessage?`
`05:28.13`	`vhaarr`	`RS is not printed in the RWF?`
`05:28.19`	`Tem`	`mine is?`
`05:28.37`	`eternally777`	`I'm heading to bed, take it easy`
`05:29.33`	`Tekkub`	`because I send boss strings to RaidWarningFrame:AddMessage maybe?`
`05:29.44`	`Tekkub`	`also oRA_RaidSay can append te sender name`
`05:30.18`	`Tekkub`	`anyway, there's a reason BossBlock was put into oRA_RS, and therefore left out of BossBlock`
`05:30.40`	`Tekkub`	`but nonetheless, I can hook the setting so it shows up in BW's menu and users don't miss that oRA_RS has it`
`05:30.56`	`vhaarr`	`oRA2 doesn't have the option at all yet anyway.`
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`05:32.39`	`Tem`	`Tekkub, so?`
`05:33.01`	`Tekkub`	`so what?`
`05:33.04`	`Tem`	`then use self.hooks[RaidWarningFrame].AddMessage.orig`
`05:33.12`	`Tekkub`	`no`
`05:33.28`	`Tem`	`why not?`
`05:33.37`	`Tekkub`	`I already answered that`
`05:33.47`	`Tekkub`	`let me put in oRA support`
`05:33.59`	`Tem`	`ah, I didn't read enough`
`05:34.01`	`Tekkub`	`as for oRA2, talk to ammo on why bossblock isn't in`
`05:34.20`	`Tekkub`	`I don't understand why CTRA still has RS`
`05:34.28`	`Tem`	`me either`
`05:34.32`	`Tekkub`	`it could hijack the RW channel/frame/etc`
`05:34.47`	`Tekkub`	`and still look the same, but use the "correct" channel`
`05:38.36`	`ckknight`	`actually, using .orig is deprecated`
`05:38.44`	`ckknight`	`so just use self.hooks[RaidWarningFrame].AddMessage()`
`05:39.07`	`Tem`	`we discussed using __call some time back and decided against it`
`05:39.11`	`Tem`	`why is it back?`
`05:39.55`	`Tem`	`we decided to not do it because you it made an extra function call`
`05:40.01`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r10026 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc BossBlock.lua):`
`05:40.01`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs`
`05:40.01`	`CIA-11`	`- Added option to toggle oRA_RaidSay's Bossblock, since people keep missing that the toggle for raidsay is in a totally different mod`
`05:40.06`	`Tem`	`which could be bad in critical paths`
`05:40.13`	`ckknight`	`lag`
`05:41.00`	`ckknight`	`um, basically because sometime in the future, whether it be through timebombing or another major revision, the .orig will be taken out completely`
`05:42.03`	`ckknight`	`for now, do what you feel like, really`
`05:42.21`	`ckknight`	`just be aware that at some point, the .orig may need to come out`
`05:42.38`	`ckknight`	`long ways off, anyway`
`05:43.04`	`Tem`	`yeah, no`
`05:43.06`	`Tem`	`it is staying in`
`05:43.33`	`ckknight`	`the reason to take it out is for efficiency reasons.`
`05:43.35`	`ckknight`	`so you know`
`05:43.41`	`ckknight`	`it's to save making a table`
`05:44.04`	`Tem`	`and the reason to keep it in is for efficiency`
`05:44.12`	`ckknight`	`cause currently it's just self.hooks.myfunc = { orig = someFunction }, when it could just be self.hooks.myfunc = someFunction`
`05:44.26`	`ckknight`	`the table isn't needed anymore, really.`
`05:44.48`	`Tem`	`oh, as long as it's not a __call I'm fine with it`
`05:44.52`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`05:44.59`	`ckknight`	`it won't be a call when the .orig comes out.`
`05:45.04`	`Tem`	`in fact, I'd push to have it timebombed sooner`
`05:45.39`	`ckknight`	`my plan is to check everyone on SVN one day`
`05:45.45`	`ckknight`	`update em all, then update AceHook`
`05:46.24`	`ckknight`	`with like a leniency period for a little while, as stragglers upgrade`
`05:47.01`	`Tem`	`well`
`05:47.05`	`ckknight`	`like make the official break on patch day`
`05:47.08`	`ckknight`	`when everyone upgrades`
`05:47.08`	`Tem`	`it needs to be sooner than later`
`05:47.16`	`Tem`	`we want to come out of beta`
`05:47.17`	`ckknight`	`or something`
`05:47.21`	`Tem`	`and at that point the API is locked`
`05:47.39`	`ckknight`	`I suppose. I like the beta, though :-P`
`05:47.48`	`Tem`	`you're the minority`
`05:48.25`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10027 10BigWigs/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: BossBlock: Ugh, I thought I had fixed these speeling errors a long time ago.`
`05:48.36`	`Kebinusan`	`Darwin 1`
`05:48.36`	`Kebinusan`	`Irwin 0`
`05:48.42`	`ckknight`	`?`
`05:48.48`	`Kebinusan`	`Steve Irwin dead`
`05:48.58`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: oh, oh, I know, oSkin Dewdrops!`
`05:49.08`	`ckknight`	`yea, that's on the agenda, vhaarr`
`05:49.20`	`vhaarr`	`yay`
`05:50.11`	`vhaarr`	`Blizzard should just adopt oSkin.`
`05:50.14`	`vhaarr`	`It's too sexy.`
`05:54.02`	`CIA-11`	`03pprovost * r10028 10FuBar_PoisonFu/Core.lua:`
`05:54.02`	`CIA-11`	`FuBar_PoisonFu:`
`05:54.02`	`CIA-11`	`- Perf updates`
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`05:59.48`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r10029 10Metrognome/Metrognome.toc:`
`05:59.48`	`CIA-11`	`MetrognomeLib`
`05:59.48`	`CIA-11`	`- TOC Updates`
`06:02.18`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r10030 10Ace2/AceHook-2.0/AceHook-2.0.lua: AceHook - now unhooks properly`
`06:07.36`	`Tekkub`	`got the sidebar now hiding empty lines...`
`06:07.38`	`Tekkub`	`http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/BigWigs`
`06:07.57`	`Tekkub`	`also got the category-filling template to handle libraries properly :)`
`06:12.02`	`Nightdew`	`anyone have any problems with onebbag?`
`06:12.31`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: cool`
`06:12.54`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: SpellCache and SpellStatus needs proper structure and a TOC :)`
`06:17.30`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r10031 10Metrognome/Metrognome.toc:`
`06:17.30`	`CIA-11`	`MetrognomeLib`
`06:17.30`	`CIA-11`	`- More TOC metadata for the wiki`
`06:17.31`	`Tekkub`	`okey, I feel like I accomplished something tonight... tommorow I'll try to tackle the links section of the infobox :)`
`06:17.31`	`FISKER_Q`	`Has anyone been on a TL chrom since 1.12?`
`06:17.31`	`CIA-11`	`03nightdew * r10032 10SpellStatus-1.0/SpellStatus-1.0.lua:`
`06:17.31`	`CIA-11`	`SpellStatus-1.0:`
`06:17.31`	`CIA-11`	`- Added :IsAttacking`
`06:17.31`	`CIA-11`	`- Added :IsCombating`
`06:17.31`	`CIA-11`	`- Fixed problem where status variables were not properly updated.`
`06:17.31`	`Nightdew`	`vhaarr: What do you mean?`
`06:17.31`	`FISKER_Q`	`btw Tekkub you know why bigwigs bars are transparent instead of colored?`
`06:17.32`	`Tekkub`	`candybars is ammo's library`
`06:17.32`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: Like most of the other libraries are structured; trunk\SpellStatus\SpellStatus-1.0\SpellStatus-1.0.lua and trunk\SpellStatus\SpellStatus.toc`
`06:17.32`	`Tekkub`	`make sure you're up to date.. and try it without that !!!Libraries if you're running it...`
`06:17.32`	`FISKER_Q`	`i'll try without libraries then`
`06:17.32`	`Nightdew`	`will that kill peoples externals.. i havent dealt with that at all?`
`06:17.32`	`Nightdew`	`and would it have to be SpellStatuslib ?`
`06:17.32`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: Tekkub worked around that when he fixed RosterLib the same way.`
`06:17.51`	`Nightdew`	`vhaarr: Tekkub is smart, we like Tekkub .. (anyone get that reference lol)`
`06:17.56`	`Nightdew`	`cough`
`06:18.08`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: No, it wouldn't have to be SpellStatusLib, I think`
`06:18.12`	`vhaarr`	`Deformat is not, for example`
`06:18.20`	`dreadlyone`	`FISKER_Q : just removed candybars from your !!!libraries directory. as long as it is somewhere else being loaded, you should be fine and no long transparent`
`06:18.31`	`vhaarr`	`and FuBarPlugin-2.0 is simply FuBarPlugin-2.0`
`06:18.36`	`Nightdew`	`but it is Abacuslib`
`06:18.49`	`vhaarr`	`yes most of them are -Lib`
`06:19.14`	`Nightdew`	`well tell me how to do it`
`06:19.17`	`Nightdew`	`and ill do it lol`
`06:19.31`	`FISKER_Q`	`dreadlyone it was still the newest candybars that was being loaded with !!!Libraries`
`06:20.06`	`FISKER_Q`	`but yeah it works now`
`06:20.08`	`dreadlyone`	`the problem isn't the lib itself, just how deeply it is nested`
`06:20.11`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: hm, sec`
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`06:21.57`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: please enlighten us how you did that with rosterlib`
`06:23.32`	`Tekkub`	`do what now? I was getting my laundry`
`06:23.58`	`vhaarr`	`You moved it from RosterLib-2.0 to RosterLib\RosterLib-2.0\ and added a TOC`
`06:24.07`	`Tekkub`	`yes`
`06:24.13`	`vhaarr`	`and I seem to remember you used some nice trick for the existing users of rosterlib`
`06:24.31`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew needs to do that with SpellStatus and SpellCache, too`
`06:25.12`	`Tekkub`	`http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.lua`
`06:25.23`	`Tekkub`	`look after AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):embed(RosterLib)`
`06:25.58`	`Tekkub`	`anyone who pulls down this version (probably because of an out of date external) will get a whiney error`
`06:26.06`	`Nightdew`	`lol`
`06:26.13`	`Nightdew`	`"nice" trick`
`06:26.23`	`Tekkub`	`effective, and simple :)`
`06:26.54`	`Nightdew`	`so basically anything that references it, will have to relink`
`06:27.04`	`Nightdew`	`hwo about i post a message and then move it lol`
`06:27.21`	`Tekkub`	`if you move you'll break externals`
`06:27.23`	`Nightdew`	`i presume the externals will automatically balk if its not found`
`06:27.31`	`Tekkub`	`then people will get SVN errors and not know why`
`06:27.37`	`Tekkub`	`and clad's zipper might explode`
`06:27.47`	`vhaarr`	`:P`
`06:27.53`	`Tekkub`	`I don't know the effects of totally removing the external`
`06:28.03`	`Tekkub`	`giving a nag message is a much safer route`
`06:32.55`	`Nightdew`	`Tekkub`
`06:33.13`	`Nightdew`	`Tekkub: why didnt you just delete the whole damn code and just leave the error?`
`06:33.30`	`Tekkub`	`because.... kittens`
`06:33.39`	`Nightdew`	`huh?`
`06:34.09`	`Tekkub`	`potatoe chips!`
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`06:34.27`	`Tekkub`	`there is no reason, I just threw the error in there as a quick solution`
`06:34.33`	`Tekkub`	`it worked didn't it?`
`06:35.00`	`Nightdew`	`dont know i dont use it lol`
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`06:54.00`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: I don't think very many addons are using the Spell libraries yet`
`06:54.29`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: I will update BigWigs_CommonAuras and BigWigs_HealbotAssist, and I think IceHUD uses them.`
`06:54.58`	`oxman`	`bigwigs ?`
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`06:58.06`	`FISKER_Q`	`i got a stupid idea`
`06:58.10`	`FISKER_Q`	`but Kyahx\|afk went afk ;(`
`06:58.12`	`oxman`	`Nice`
`06:58.13`	`oxman`	`xD`
`06:58.26`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`hmm?`
`06:58.35`	`oxman`	`ah ah`
`06:58.36`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`Im still semi afk, getting ready to be truely afk :P`
`06:58.42`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`whats up?`
`06:58.46`	`FISKER_Q`	`the oskin texture`
`06:58.54`	`FISKER_Q`	`make it a texture for fubar as well :P`
`06:59.07`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`no`
`06:59.10`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`lol`
`06:59.12`	`oxman`	`i want oskin for mainmenubar`
`06:59.12`	`oxman`	`:)`
`06:59.24`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`Well, right now I'm skinning everything my UI uses :P`
`06:59.33`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`after I get done, I'll consider things I dont use`
`06:59.35`	`oxman`	`the mainmenubar ?`
`06:59.36`	`oxman`	`:p`
`06:59.38`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`Nope`
`06:59.59`	`oxman`	`pff :p`
`07:00.08`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`I use bartender`
`07:00.10`	`FISKER_Q`	`well not really a skin as fubar supports textures anyways :)`
`07:00.10`	`ckknight`	`okay, working on AceEvent's scheduling now, I got it about 2x faster`
`07:00.18`	`ckknight`	`which is definitely a good thing.`
`07:00.29`	`oxman`	`wow really ?`
`07:00.30`	`oxman`	`very nice`
`07:00.51`	`Tem`	`hey tek, you still around?`
`07:00.57`	`ckknight`	`just working with algorithms and such`
`07:01.08`	`FISKER_Q`	`night`
`07:01.17`	`oxman`	`night`
`07:01.31`	`oxman`	`what's the main change in the procedure ckknight ?`
`07:01.47`	`oxman`	`Kyahx\|afk you use bartender 1 or 2 ? /p`
`07:02.16`	`ckknight`	`instead of using a heap sort, which is costly (for lua) given the amount of sifting needed, I don't sort and just traverse the whole registry each time`
`07:02.21`	`Tem`	`[Ammo], you around?`
`07:02.30`	`ckknight`	`which is kinda going backwards, but it's faster for lua`
`07:02.37`	`oxman`	`hum ok thanks`
`07:04.10`	`oxman`	`:)`
`07:04.11`	`Tem`	`I just had a thought about BigWigs`
`07:04.11`	`Tem`	`there should be bars for a few other things`
`07:04.11`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: Like what?`
`07:04.11`	`Tem`	`the MS on Broodlord`
`07:04.11`	`ckknight`	`so now it actually functions just like Metrognome again :-P`
`07:04.11`	`Tem`	`Burning from Vael`
`07:04.11`	`Tem`	`Shadow of Ebonroc`
`07:04.19`	`FISKER_Q`	`burning on vael would be pretty nice`
`07:04.34`	`Arrowmaster`	`how about some damn syncing on vael first`
`07:04.44`	`Tem`	`who needs syncing`
`07:05.02`	`FISKER_Q`	`well if you kite vael to nefarians lair then you can get out of range?`
`07:05.03`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: aaah yes`
`07:05.06`	`FISKER_Q`	`:P`
`07:05.11`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: How long does MS last on Broodlord?`
`07:05.13`	`ckknight`	`in theory, anyway`
`07:05.18`	`ckknight`	`mine is slightly more optimized`
`07:05.25`	`ckknight`	`but it's to a point you'd probably not notice`
`07:05.27`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Fix metrognome, then ;)`
`07:05.34`	`vhaarr`	`Addons still use it.`
`07:05.54`	`ckknight`	`they should probably switch to AceEvent-2.0, in my opinion`
`07:06.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`syncing for vael because the cvar to up the combat log distance doesnt have a slider in bigwigs because somebody doesnt want to conflict with squishy i think`
`07:06.42`	`vhaarr`	`Arrowmaster: Who needs sync'ing on Vael?`
`07:06.46`	`vhaarr`	`We never had any problems.`
`07:06.54`	`ckknight`	`also, Metrognome could have some major issues if an unregister, then a garbage collection occurs inside a function`
`07:06.56`	`Arrowmaster`	`every week i dont get all the messages`
`07:07.02`	`FISKER_Q`	`how can you even be out of range on vael?`
`07:07.08`	`vhaarr`	`indeed, how can you`
`07:07.13`	`Arrowmaster`	`double line method`
`07:07.29`	`ckknight`	`also, due to its verbose/statistical nature, it probably loses cycles on that`
`07:07.47`	`vhaarr`	`yes it does, but statistics can be nice sometimes`
`07:07.58`	`ckknight`	`also accesses a lot of globals`
`07:08.08`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, ah, I'd rather be very fast`
`07:08.36`	`Arrowmaster`	`for vael we get on both sides, im usually out of combatlog range of the people on the opposite wall`
`07:10.35`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: From what I can see, MS lasts either 10 or 5 seconds.`
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`07:10.39`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: Which one is it?`
`07:10.42`	`LH\|Taube`	`hi there`
`07:10.47`	`vhaarr`	`hei LH\|Taube`
`07:10.50`	`Tem`	`10 is what my guildies say`
`07:10.51`	`vhaarr`	`s/hei/hi/`
`07:10.55`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: OK`
`07:11.02`	`Tem`	`burning appears to be 18 seconds`
`07:11.06`	`Tem`	`but that's just a guess`
`07:11.12`	`vhaarr`	`I can find that out`
`07:11.35`	`FISKER_Q`	`ckknight busted himself`
`07:11.36`	`Tem`	`and we have several guesses on Shadow of Ebonroc`
`07:11.38`	`FISKER_Q`	`he's swedish!`
`07:11.51`	`FISKER_Q`	`"hei" is "hi" in swedish i think`
`07:12.40`	`vhaarr`	`I'm norwegian.`
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`07:12.57`	`LH\|Taube`	`well, it was recogniceable as an greeting ;)`
`07:13.07`	`vhaarr`	`;)`
`07:13.08`	`ckknight_`	`cords.`
`07:14.27`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r10033 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - optimizations regarding scheduling. Roughly 2x faster now.`
`07:17.08`	`Gngsk`	`uhm, what's the stance on altering blizz's global variables?`
`07:17.45`	`ckknight_`	`if you're sneaky like a ninja, you can`
`07:17.50`	`ckknight_`	`otherwise you probably shouldn't`
`07:18.23`	`Gngsk`	`heh, I'm no ninja. but the order of CHARACTERFRAME_SUBFRAMES seems wrong`
`07:18.30`	`Gngsk`	`CHARACTERFRAME_SUBFRAMES = { "PaperDollFrame", "PetPaperDollFrame", "SkillFrame", "ReputationFrame", "HonorFrame" };`
`07:18.33`	`ckknight_`	`hrm`
`07:18.37`	`ckknight_`	`don't touch it`
`07:18.47`	`Gngsk`	`SkillFrame and ReputationFrame are in the wrong order =\`
`07:18.55`	`ckknight_`	`does it matter?`
`07:19.05`	`Gngsk`	`yes`
`07:19.18`	`Gngsk`	`here, I'll paste the code that doesn't work as it should`
`07:19.22`	`ckknight_`	`k`
`07:19.53`	`Gngsk`	`http://pastey.net/599`
`07:20.10`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: BA seems to be 20sec.`
`07:20.43`	`Gngsk`	`ckknight, if they were in the right order then i would correspond to the CharacterFrameTab for frameName`
`07:21.03`	`Gngsk`	`but since they're not, when you click on SkillFrame, it alters the CharacterFrameTab for the ReputationFrame. vice versa`
`07:21.11`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`07:21.15`	`ckknight`	`don't alter the global`
`07:21.22`	`ckknight`	`find a way to deal with it in the oSkin method`
`07:21.31`	`oxman`	`don't use the globalvar :D`
`07:21.53`	`Gngsk`	`dur`
`07:22.29`	`ckknight`	`that would work as well`
`07:24.04`	`gnorlish`	`BA is 20 seconds, 10% of max health taken per tick for 10 ticks`
`07:24.10`	`Gngsk`	`yah, just made a local with 'em in the right order`
`07:24.57`	`LH\|Taube`	`Ba�s damaged is based on percentage? didn�t notice that before =/`
`07:26.44`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: Shadow of Ebonroc might last 8 seconds.`
`07:28.04`	`gnorlish`	`it's why you can't survive BA`
`07:28.21`	`gnorlish`	`at the end you're down 100% of your max health`
`07:30.11`	`CIA-11`	`03thrae * r10034 10VitalWatch/VitalWatch.lua: VitalWatch -- More bug fixes, now need to work on aggro logic.`
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`07:34.10`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: Fixed them all, committing in a sec.`
`07:34.20`	`Tem`	`nice`
`07:37.13`	`Gngsk`	`o_O, wrote some code that works at the alliance AH, but not horde AH`
`07:37.22`	`Gngsk`	`heh, wonder if it works at the neutral one`
`07:37.36`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10035 10BigWigs/BWL/ (Broodlord.lua Ebonroc.lua Vaelastrasz.lua): BigWigs: BWL: Add timer bars for Broodlords MS, Ebonrocs Shadow Curse and Vaels BA.`
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`07:41.21`	`vhaarr`	`Kyahx\|afk: Still afk?`
`07:41.38`	`vhaarr`	`ah, you're AFK for sleep`
`07:44.13`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: Do you know Transcriptor?`
`07:44.52`	`ckknight`	`haven't used it`
`07:44.58`	`vhaarr`	`but you know what it is`
`07:44.59`	`ckknight`	`I know of it`
`07:45.01`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`07:45.15`	`vhaarr`	`It currently inserts the full time H:M:S before each log statement`
`07:45.20`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`07:45.25`	`vhaarr`	`which is .. suboptimal`
`07:45.31`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`07:45.35`	`vhaarr`	`as the only thing we really care about is T+X`
`07:45.36`	`ckknight`	`you want milliseconds?`
`07:45.41`	`ckknight`	`what's T+X?`
`07:45.50`	`vhaarr`	`it's startTime + runningSeconds`
`07:45.55`	`CIA-11`	`03moonwolf * r10036 10oSkin/MacroFrame.lua: oSkin: Fixed the delete button location, it was using an unexisting frame variable to place itself.`
`07:45.58`	`vhaarr`	`so 0+X`
`07:46.05`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`07:46.14`	`FISKER_Q`	`we won a WSG against an exploiting farmer team`
`07:46.14`	`ckknight`	`I dunno what to tell you`
`07:46.22`	`vhaarr`	`hard to accomplish efficiently?`
`07:46.24`	`ckknight`	`good times, FISKER_Q`
`07:46.27`	`FISKER_Q`	`hehe yeah`
`07:46.31`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, I don't know`
`07:46.36`	`vhaarr`	`FISKER_Q: are you ally?`
`07:46.40`	`FISKER_Q`	`nope horde`
`07:46.50`	`vhaarr`	`hordes always exploit against us`
`07:46.57`	`FISKER_Q`	`the alliance had their flag carrier ontop of the roof in their base where we couldn't get to them`
`07:47.07`	`vhaarr`	`they run with the flag and stand high inside their base behind some fence`
`07:47.10`	`FISKER_Q`	`and then the rest of the team running for our flag carriers`
`07:47.18`	`vhaarr`	`right, so the same exploit is possible for both sides.`
`07:47.29`	`FISKER_Q`	`so we turtled it for 40 minutes and eventually won :P`
`07:47.35`	`vhaarr`	`it's very annoying`
`07:47.42`	`FISKER_Q`	`yeah`
`07:48.02`	`FISKER_Q`	`pretty annoying that the gm's don't fix it right away`
`07:48.07`	`ckknight`	`go Horde.`
`07:48.14`	`FISKER_Q`	`not the bug but that they're exploiting it`
`07:48.19`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: well, I guess a \|date("%H:%M:%S")\| call is pretty expensive already`
`07:48.28`	`FISKER_Q`	`even offered him to port into where i was and see them doing it in progress`
`07:48.45`	`vhaarr`	`so replacing it with some string.format(GetTime() - X) stuff shouldn't make much of a difference`
`07:50.20`	`ckknight`	`prolly not`
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`07:53.01`	`vhaarr`	`gah, what to call it then`
`07:53.13`	`vhaarr`	`"epoch + T(S)" ?`
`07:56.10`	`yacoob`	`yawn`
`07:56.49`	`yacoob`	`ckknight: nothing like a great news in the morning :) Has your fix been commited?`
`07:57.23`	`ckknight`	`which fix?`
`07:57.41`	`ckknight`	`FuBar thing?`
`07:57.58`	`yacoob`	`yup`
`07:57.58`	`ckknight`	`I committed that like 2 minutes after you went AFK`
`07:57.58`	`yacoob`	`hah :D`
`07:58.03`	`yacoob`	`I'll test once I get back home then.`
`08:00.47`	`[Ammo]`	`morning`
`08:02.00`	`Tem`	`also, a timer for nef's respawn would be handy`
`08:02.13`	`[Ammo]`	`Tem: isn't there one?`
`08:02.17`	`Tem`	`not that I know of`
`08:02.24`	`[Ammo]`	`yuo mean the submerge right?`
`08:02.25`	`vhaarr`	`How long is that, like 15min?`
`08:02.36`	`Tem`	`no, I mean nef's respawn`
`08:02.38`	`[Ammo]`	`ah`
`08:02.40`	`Tem`	`not rag`
`08:02.44`	`[Ammo]`	`ragnaros != nef`
`08:02.44`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`08:02.47`	`vhaarr`	`;)`
`08:02.50`	`Tem`	`vhaarr, yeah it's 15 minutes`
`08:02.57`	`Tem`	`detecting the start would be tough though`
`08:03.01`	`vhaarr`	`could be done, I guess.`
`08:03.06`	`Tem`	`since it's 15 minutes from when you wipe, iirc`
`08:03.10`	`vhaarr`	`not really, we have code for that`
`08:03.20`	`Tem`	`yes, but it's not 100% accurate`
`08:03.24`	`vhaarr`	`indeed`
`08:03.34`	`vhaarr`	`maybe he does a yell when you wipe?`
`08:03.46`	`Tem`	`no, I just checked`
`08:04.10`	`Tem`	`well, if you get it into phase 2 you get get it to be no more than 30 seconds wrong`
`08:04.33`	`Tem`	`by starting the wipe timer when a class call doesn't happen`
`08:05.53`	`[Ammo]`	`steve erwin is dead.`
`08:05.54`	`[Ammo]`	`duh`
`08:06.02`	`oxman`	`boring, it's really hard to know the target of your casting :/`
`08:06.03`	`Tem`	`the croc hunter guy?`
`08:06.03`	`ckknight`	`who is that?`
`08:06.09`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah the croc hunter`
`08:06.13`	`Tem`	`wow`
`08:06.15`	`Tem`	`from what?`
`08:06.17`	`[Ammo]`	`got stung by a Stingray in his chest`
`08:06.23`	`[Ammo]`	`flat fish thing`
`08:06.25`	`Tem`	`and that killed him?`
`08:06.27`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`08:06.30`	`Tem`	`lawl`
`08:06.30`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`08:06.32`	`ckknight`	`damn.`
`08:06.37`	`[Ammo]`	`pwned by wildlife`
`08:06.39`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`sure, pretty poisonous, that sting`
`08:06.47`	`Tem`	`shouldn't kill you`
`08:06.52`	`ckknight`	`he deserves a Darwin Award if any of us do.`
`08:07.02`	`ckknight`	`I mean, really`
`08:07.08`	`Tem`	`maybe he went into some kind of shock and had a heart attack/pulmanary failure?`
`08:07.29`	`[Ammo]`	`http://slashdot.org/`
`08:07.30`	`[Ammo]`	`top article`
`08:07.39`	`[Ammo]`	`http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20349534-952,00.html`
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`08:09.38`	`wereHamster`	`sad news..`
`08:09.46`	`ckknight`	`yea, the pre-crime thing pisses me off`
`08:09.53`	`ckknight`	`lousy erosion of our constitution.`
`08:10.18`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`ah, well, irwin never really made it to television over here ;)`
`08:12.06`	`ckknight`	`where is "here"?`
`08:12.12`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`germany`
`08:12.29`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`sry, tend to forget to mention such details`
`08:12.33`	`wereHamster`	`I saw his show sometimes..`
`08:12.39`	`wereHamster`	`in german TV`
`08:13.03`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`yeah, �round sunday murning or something`
`08:14.33`	`oxman`	`I think we need a lib to know the target of a spell`
`08:14.40`	`oxman`	`I will try to do that, but it's very hard :\|`
`08:14.44`	`ckknight`	`hrm, he can't receive a Darwin Award`
`08:14.47`	`ckknight`	`he has kids already`
`08:14.59`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`hm. am i blind or something? i thought i�d seen a perfectraid version with missing hp shown as text and a number showing the groups.`
`08:15.20`	`oxman`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:15.23`	`oxman`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:15.25`	`oxman`	`don't remember`
`08:15.34`	`Health`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:15.37`	`oxman`	`something like that, look /praid`
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`08:15.48`	`Health`	`I mean, /praid health worked to see hp missing`
`08:16.16`	`wereHamster`	`oxman, there's already a lib to find out the spell target`
`08:16.46`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`it does? last time i fiddled with it, it only reversed the bars`
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`08:17.09`	`oxman`	`i don't think wereHamster :p`
`08:17.11`	`oxman`	`where is it ?`
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`08:17.56`	`ckknight`	`hey [Wobin]`
`08:17.59`	`ckknight`	`hey Industrial`
`08:18.14`	`Industrial`	`morning`
`08:18.39`	`oxman`	`wereHamster ?`
`08:19.31`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`i guess he�s looking for said lib`
`08:19.38`	`oxman`	`lib or not`
`08:19.43`	`oxman`	`i don't any addon to do that`
`08:19.47`	`oxman`	`+know`
`08:19.57`	`oxman`	`None addon work with passive target`
`08:20.37`	`yacoob`	`bounce`
`08:20.40`	`wereHamster`	`oxman, I don't know.. maybe it's in the SVN`
`08:20.56`	`oxman`	`so it's not`
`08:20.56`	`oxman`	`:)`
`08:21.02`	`wereHamster`	`I think HealWatch uses a library`
`08:21.20`	`ckknight`	`yacoob, ?`
`08:22.24`	`oxman`	`IsCasting try to do that`
`08:22.27`	`oxman`	`i will look`
`08:22.50`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`what do you plan to do with such a lib?`
`08:23.00`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`i mean, it�s a scary thought`
`08:23.09`	`oxman`	`?`
`08:23.47`	`yacoob`	`nothing, trying to reactivate on monday morning. :)`
`08:24.04`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`well, if you could watch who is casting what on which target, this�d be a great tool for raidleaders`
`08:24.22`	`oxman`	`i'm not intersting by that`
`08:24.28`	`oxman`	`and healer+ or something like that already do that`
`08:24.34`	`oxman`	`healerassist`
`08:24.41`	`wereHamster`	`Immortal\|Taube, There are tools that do that for heals..`
`08:24.46`	`oxman`	`but it don't work with passive target`
`08:24.46`	`oxman`	`;p`
`08:24.55`	`oxman`	`99% of addon don't work with passive target`
`08:25.06`	`wereHamster`	`passive target = ?`
`08:25.07`	`phyber`	`wooo. work from home day. thanks Metrolink!`
`08:25.19`	`oxman`	`i believe all "priest addon"'s author aren't priest, because they never use passive target`
`08:25.21`	`phyber`	`also, morning :)`
`08:25.25`	`oxman`	`cast the spell, then select the target wereHamster`
`08:26.05`	`wereHamster`	`I'm the author of HealSync and I never really played a priest`
`08:26.07`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`how many priests play that way?`
`08:26.13`	`oxman`	`so i'm right wereHamster ;)`
`08:26.16`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10037 10Transcriptor/ (Core.lua Transcriptor.toc): Transcriptor: Stamps events as (epoch + T(S)) instead of H:M:S by default. Can toggle in the menu.`
`08:26.21`	`phyber`	`http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5311298.stm`
`08:26.23`	`oxman`	`Immortal\|Taube I dunno`
`08:26.24`	`phyber`	`^ nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo`
`08:26.27`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`most i know either select target and press the hotkey or work with clickcasting`
`08:26.29`	`oxman`	`but click casting is like passive targeting :)`
`08:26.35`	`oxman`	`but it's easy to know the target in this way`
`08:26.36`	`oxman`	`;)`
`08:26.49`	`oxman`	`I often do passive targeting to know who is in my range`
`08:26.49`	`oxman`	`:)`
`08:26.56`	`oxman`	`it's very useful`
`08:27.01`	`oxman`	`and i'm very good in bg with that ;)`
`08:27.18`	`ckknight`	`phyber, yes, we all mourn for the Crocodile Hunter`
`08:27.31`	`wereHamster`	`I don't think HealSync is useful in PvP`
`08:27.47`	`oxman`	`its true :)`
`08:28.00`	`oxman`	`but passive target is usefull also in pve ;)`
`08:28.16`	`oxman`	`then click casting is very important for priest`
`08:28.24`	`oxman`	`and lots of healer addon don't work with click casting`
`08:28.25`	`[Wobin]`	`phyber: It's the way he'd want to have gone`
`08:28.30`	`oxman`	`because it's a passive target approach`
`08:28.36`	`phyber`	`[Wobin]: yeah, I bet :)`
`08:28.36`	`[Wobin]`	`"Crocodile Hunter slain in FREAK STINGRAY ATTACK!!"`
`08:29.02`	`[Wobin]`	`The thing is? Stingray attacks are really really rare.`
`08:29.09`	`[Wobin]`	`They don't fight back unless really pissed off.`
`08:29.11`	`[Wobin]`	`So Steve?`
`08:29.14`	`phyber`	`he probably jammed his thumb up it's butt hole and really pissed it off ;) </south park>`
`08:29.19`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`08:29.21`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`lol`
`08:29.26`	`[Wobin]`	`pokepokepoke He's an angry little bugger! pokepokepoke`
`08:29.47`	`gnorlish`	`it would be quite difficult to get one to spear you in the chest`
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`08:29.50`	`ckknight`	`well, you gotta look at the upside to the situation. At least Terri's available now`
`08:30.00`	`gnorlish`	`makes me think he was holding it or picking it up`
`08:30.01`	`wereHamster`	`That's why I want WoW to give us the target name in argX .. though very unlikely to happen, I'll never give up hope`
`08:30.24`	`Immortal\|Taube`	`so, to approach the passive target problem, a priest would have to broadcast an iscasting message for other addons, i�d guess`
`08:30.46`	`oxman`	`no the problem is to know the target ;)`
`08:30.50`	`oxman`	`it's hard to get that in one addon`
`08:30.57`	`ckknight`	`he may have been riding it`
`08:31.02`	`ckknight`	`Stingrays let you do that`
`08:31.09`	`ckknight`	`occasionally, there are accidents, though`
`08:33.58`	`oxman`	`yep IsCasting lib`
`08:34.00`	`oxman`	`yep IsCasting lib bug`
`08:34.09`	`oxman`	`but it try to work with passive targeting`
`08:34.21`	`oxman`	`but it don't always have the right target`
`08:34.58`	`oxman`	`Select a friend, cast the spell then immediatly do a /script TargetUnit("player")`
`08:35.04`	`oxman`	`then IsCasting give you the wrong target`
`08:36.15`	`Tem`	`hey ckknight you still around?`
`08:36.26`	`oxman`	`sometimes its right, sometimes its wrong`
`08:36.26`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`08:36.51`	`oxman`	`because sometimes when you do immediatly a TargetUnit after the cast, the cast target the targetunit, sometimes the cast target the target`
`08:36.51`	`oxman`	`:D`
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`08:38.04`	`ckknight`	`Tem_?`
`08:38.09`	`ckknight`	`hey frus`
`08:38.28`	`Tem`	`ckknight, is TopScoreFu your thinkg?`
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`08:39.11`	`ckknight`	`it was, but your current problems can probably be blamed on phyber`
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`08:40.12`	`phyber`	`Tem: what's wrong with it. blame me for more stuff, you're like those damn guys on wowi! ;)`
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`08:40.34`	`phyber`	`I'm getting bitched at now because the AceDB format isn't the same anymore, so people lost their old scores.`
`08:40.48`	`Tem`	`yes, I did lose my old scores`
`08:40.52`	`Tem`	`but I don't care about that`
`08:40.54`	`phyber`	`:D`
`08:41.10`	`Tem`	`I just noticed that after a BWL, it keep any of the rediculous crits I got on vulnerable mobs`
`08:41.18`	`Tem`	`bug or feature?`
`08:41.20`	`phyber`	`ah, that thing.`
`08:41.30`	`phyber`	`feature. it's a topscore ;)`
`08:41.39`	`phyber`	`I'm going to add a thing where you can add mobs to ignore.`
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`08:41.52`	`phyber`	`unless you can give me a static list of "mobs with stupid high scores to always ignore"`
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`08:42.12`	`Tem`	`topscore?`
`08:42.13`	`Tem`	`huh?`
`08:42.16`	`phyber`	`then maybe others would submit to the list too.`
`08:42.25`	`Gngsk`	`you can add those guys in the instructor razuvious encounter`
`08:42.31`	`Tem`	`meaning it auto-ignore stupid high numbers?`
`08:42.37`	`Gngsk`	`apprentice something`
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`08:43.24`	`PProvost`	`ckknight, think I may have a bug in the default menu processing for FuBar.`
`08:43.40`	`phyber`	`Tem: ignore any scores from those mobs. I can't think of a good way to do it than to either accept all of the scores or ignore everything.`
`08:43.45`	`ckknight`	`PProvost, oh?`
`08:44.06`	`PProvost`	`If you don't have AceDB mixed in, you don't get the "Show Icon", "Show text", "Show Colored Text" options in the menu.`
`08:44.11`	`Tem`	`phyber, so do you or do you not have a list of mobs that you ignore from?`
`08:44.18`	`PProvost`	`As soon as you mix in AceDB and register a DB, they show up.`
`08:44.31`	`phyber`	`Tem: not at the moment.`
`08:44.45`	`Tem`	`so, how is it ignoring them?`
`08:44.55`	`phyber`	`it isn't yet.`
`08:44.59`	`Gngsk`	`Deathknight Understudy, if they take damage from anyone other than Instructor Razivuouis they get oneshotted for an obscene value.`
`08:45.03`	`oxman`	`hum IsCasting is not aced :'(`
`08:45.13`	`Tem`	`phyber, then why doesn't it show my numbers from tonight?`
`08:45.14`	`ckknight`	`PProvost, that's not a bug, that's how I made it.`
`08:45.22`	`Tem`	`phyber, oh, nevermind`
`08:45.35`	`Tem`	`I nef's-room-crashed`
`08:45.42`	`phyber`	`ahh.`
`08:45.44`	`PProvost`	`Okay, I understand that. But does that really make sense? I should be able to show/hide text even if I can't save state across sessions.`
`08:46.04`	`Tem`	`fucking videocard`
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`08:46.24`	`phyber`	`there should be a WriteSavedVariables() function or similar, so you can autosave things each hour or so.`
`08:46.34`	`phyber`	`it's annoying to crash after hours of play and lose data.`
`08:46.41`	`Tem`	`phyber, there is`
`08:46.46`	`Tem`	`phyber, ReloadUI()`
`08:47.19`	`phyber`	`except for that. I want it to save while I'm running around so I don't have to take a break ;)`
`08:47.43`	`krka`	`then no`
`08:47.52`	`Gngsk`	`yea, sucks when a raid leader crashes right at the end of an instance run`
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`08:48.07`	`Gngsk`	`there goes the raid tracker data!`
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`08:48.54`	`PProvost`	`So ckknight_, any particular reason why that design was chosen?`
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`08:49.01`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10038 10BigWigs_CommonAuras/CommonAuras.lua: BigWigs_CommonAuras: Assumes you are selfcasting FW if you do not have a target.`
`08:49.10`	`Tem`	`Gngsk, yeah, I stopped running raidtracker because I fuckin hate the way it's so hacked`
`08:49.31`	`ckknight_`	`PProvost, because that data is stored in the db.`
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`08:50.06`	`PProvost`	`I understand that you can't save it without AceDB mixed it, but does that really mean you shouldn't let people configure their current session?`
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`08:50.22`	`PProvost`	`(Yes, this is silly, everyone mixes in AceDB, but the point is stil valid.)`
`08:50.46`	`vhaarr`	`PProvost: It was not chosen. The menu items were always shown before, and then I filed bugs about it since they caused errors when the FBP didn't mixin AceDB, and ckk fixed it by removing them in that case.`
`08:50.55`	`vhaarr`	`Which I happen to agree with.`
`08:51.24`	`PProvost`	`Ok. It was unexpected to me. That's all.`
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`08:51.41`	`phyber`	`PProvost: yes, if AceDB isn't there the options shouldn't be there. Otherwise everyone would bitch and ask "omg, why doesn't this save fubar is bugged lol"`
`08:52.04`	`PProvost`	`Fair enough`
`08:52.06`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: err, why doesn't SpellStatus always catch my spells?`
`08:52.11`	`[Taube]`	`re =/`
`08:52.20`	`phyber`	`or, it seems that way anyway.`
`08:52.33`	`vhaarr`	`phyber: More because it doesn't make sense at all to have them there without saving the setting.`
`08:52.43`	`vhaarr`	`That users are not whining is just a positive sideeffect.`
`08:53.25`	`CIA-11`	`03kemayo * r10039 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (QuestsFu.lua QuestsFuLocals.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu: Spread out show-levels options; now can chose to show in-game, in-tablet, and zone levels in-tablet. Option for quest title wrapping.`
`08:53.27`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: I target someone, cast Fear Ward, and it triggers the correct event. Then I repeat the same process a little later, and it doesn't.`
`08:53.48`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: It seems to work randomly, but in 95% of the cases, it works.`
`08:53.59`	`PProvost`	`I understand. This makes it the responsibility of the addon author to get it right, instead of it appearing that FuBar got it wrong. Fine with me. As I said, it just was unexpected.`
`08:54.07`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: And the strange thing is that the parameters for all the cases are identical. Standing in IF and just Fear Warding random people.`
`08:54.14`	`PProvost`	`Thanks for explaining it.`
`08:56.10`	`ckknight_`	`fuck you, lilo!`
`08:56.19`	`Gngsk`	`lol`
`08:56.20`	`vhaarr`	`get with the times, use grub`
`08:56.26`	`ckknight_`	`srsly.`
`08:56.42`	`ckknight_`	`night where I am, bitch`
`08:56.54`	`Industrial`	`you tell him girl`
`08:57.14`	`Nickenyfiken`	`bah fuck sennheiser`
`08:57.17`	`phyber`	`heh, grub. someone said something great about that in #debian over on efnet last night. finds it`
`08:58.01`	`vhaarr`	`#debian people can go fuck cheese.`
`08:58.07`	`phyber`	`2310.54 <+KristianL> I need my boot loader to load my boot-system, not tie my shoe laces, make my lunch and comb my hair...`
`08:58.28`	`ckknight_`	`meh.`
`08:58.53`	`phyber`	`also, grub fails to boot my software raid on one of my servers for strange unknown reason X :\|`
`08:58.58`	`vhaarr`	`phyber: Did you know #debian was actually voted the most unfriendly open-source related IRC channel of the year 2004 or something?`
`08:59.08`	`vhaarr`	`Maybe it was 2003, I don't know.`
`08:59.11`	`phyber`	`vhaarr: seems about right :)`
`08:59.15`	`vhaarr`	`They're all fucktards.-`
`08:59.49`	`kergoth`	`lilo is mediocre at best`
`09:00.03`	`kergoth`	`grub is incredibly feature rich, but its two stage setup makes recovery more annoying`
`09:00.13`	`vhaarr`	`yes, that is true`
`09:00.45`	`kergoth`	`a good comprimise is to use the 'mbr' project on your hd's mbr, by default it just jumps to whatevers in the boot sector of the first partition, so you can put grub there`
`09:01.00`	`kergoth`	`but it also lets you jump to the boot sector of other partitions as well, a bit more flexibility for recovery`
`09:01.03`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`09:01.43`	`oxman`	`a Textures "lib" will be nice`
`09:01.55`	`oxman`	`A directory with all textures and provide an array to list each texture`
`09:02.08`	`oxman`	`then all addon (aguf, ocb, etc) can watch the array and use these texture`
`09:02.16`	`oxman`	`what do you think about it ?`
`09:02.20`	`ckknight_`	`what textures lib? people keep talking about it, but what is it?`
`09:02.25`	`vhaarr`	`it is nothing yet`
`09:02.29`	`vhaarr`	`it is a post on the forum`
`09:02.54`	`oxman`	`look all "Images" in ag_UnitFrames`
`09:03.02`	`oxman`	`textures lib to share texture between addon`
`09:03.06`	`oxman`	`background texture often`
`09:03.46`	`oxman`	`actually lots of addon have "otravi.tga" "perl.tga" "smooth.tga" "striped.tga" for textures`
`09:04.03`	`kergoth`	`oxman: i was thinking about that as well the other day actually, a common pool of textures`
`09:04.16`	`oxman`	`yep kergoth, it will be nice I think`
`09:04.17`	`kergoth`	`if you can find a clean way to implement it..`
`09:04.31`	`Iceroth`	`someone had a point there though, distributing tons of textures as an embedded library makes the download huge`
`09:04.32`	`oxman`	`But in fact it's easy, but it's like an external lib`
`09:04.40`	`vhaarr`	`and most importantly, keep the library small`
`09:04.57`	`vhaarr`	`A texturelib has the potential to grow out of control pretty fast`
`09:05.08`	`oxman`	`Put all textures in one addonLib and in these addon put all name and id name in an array`
`09:05.14`	`oxman`	`then the addon foreach this array`
`09:05.14`	`kergoth`	`you'd need to take into account texture dimensions. i mean, if its just bar textures, then..`
`09:05.20`	`[Taube]`	`vhaar: good point. it�d grow with each requested textuure`
`09:05.27`	`vhaarr`	`indeed`
`09:05.44`	`oxman`	`you can put texture in category`
`09:05.54`	`oxman`	`"bar texture", "minimap button texture", etc`
`09:10.48`	`phyber`	`couldn't the lib be made so that, say agUF comes with BantoBar and XPBarNone comes with Smooth. They register with the lib, and can then access each others textures?`
`09:10.55`	`kergoth`	`yep`
`09:11.01`	`kergoth`	`i like that idea`
`09:11.19`	`phyber`	`that way, no textures come with the lib, we just register with it and win :)`
`09:11.42`	`Kemayo`	`That sounds much better.`
`09:11.47`	`vhaarr`	`Yes, that would be cool.`
`09:11.50`	`Iceroth`	`but every author would still include every single texture they think is nice because they can't count that the user has any other addon installed`
`09:11.53`	`vhaarr`	`It would have to come with 1 default texture.`
`09:11.56`	`[Taube]`	`so, you�d add the lib as an optional dependency and hook the mods texture path?`
`09:12.05`	`oxman`	`its the problem Iceroth :)`
`09:12.18`	`vhaarr`	`That's not a problem.`
`09:14.50`	`Iceroth`	`it's not a problem but it pretty much ruins the benefit`
`09:14.53`	`evl`	`WTB svn.wowace.com Trac :P`
`09:15.07`	`evl`	`PITA following all the addons without proper automatic changelog`
`09:15.48`	`kergoth`	`Iceroth: not really, it just ensures that the user can use all the available textures in all their addons. thats a definate benefit if any of the addons didnt include the one the user wanted. they could just write a teeny addon to inject their custom texture and now its available everywhere`
`09:15.51`	`[Taube]`	`icoroth: depends on what you see as the benefit. unified texture storage. less space used or swaping textures between mods`
`09:16.00`	`yacoob`	`evl: don't you love "change some shit in .lua" changelogs? :D`
`09:16.04`	`phyber`	`wooo. finally joining a Naxx guild. I can actually test some new BigWigs stuff :p`
`09:16.27`	`evl`	`yacoob: nicer with a automatic blog'ish list of changes where you can apply filters etc.`
`09:18.12`	`vhaarr`	`evl: haste pointed me in the right direction wrt that, sec.`
`09:18.23`	`vhaarr`	`http://groups.google.com/group/wowace`
`09:19.40`	`Iceroth`	`well.. the way i'd do it would be the FuTextures approace: include a single default texture with the addon and offer users an option to download external texture pack`
`09:20.00`	`evl`	`vhaarr: yuck, I meant a REAL app like Trac -> http://dev.rubyonrails.org/timeline`
`09:20.08`	`kergoth`	`yay trac`
`09:20.11`	`vhaarr`	`Basically the lib would just be a register with 1 default texture and a AceOptions table that you could Inject into your own (or that would be mixed in if you mixin the library) and then a seperate AddOn with a texture library.`
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`09:21.17`	`oxman`	`I don't like this way`
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`09:24.51`	`phyber`	`vhaarr: nice link :) (the google groups thing)`
`09:25.04`	`vhaarr`	`Thank haste :)`
`09:25.46`	`vhaarr`	`oh god the Windows Explorer search SUCKS.`
`09:26.01`	`yacoob`	`s/ Explorer search//`
`09:26.08`	`[Taube]`	`oxman: what do you envision, then? the lib and a single repository for all textures?`
`09:26.08`	`vhaarr`	`yes true`
`09:26.40`	`oxman`	`something like that yes`
`09:27.10`	`oxman`	`i think it's the better way for performance etc`
`09:28.43`	`CIA-11`	`03kemayo * r10040 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: AuldLangSyne: Adjust display of last-seen information, to shorten lines.`
`09:30.05`	`Kemayo`	`Tricky thing might be name collisions. I mean, just because I'm adding a bar texture called "smooth" doesn't mean that vhaarr's "smooth" would be the same one.`
`09:30.30`	`vhaarr`	`That would have to be ignored.`
`09:30.35`	`vhaarr`	`Tough luck.`
`09:30.52`	`oxman`	`so you need to use other one :\|\|`
`09:30.55`	`oxman`	`it's logic`
`09:30.58`	`oxman`	`you look the texture pack`
`09:31.04`	`oxman`	`"oh a texture smooth ? so mine is smooth2"`
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`09:32.29`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: Would be cool if ALS added a button at the top of the Friends tab that dropped down a Dewdrop with the AceOptions :)`
`09:33.05`	`Kemayo`	`I was thinking of being lazy and just adding a FuBarPlugin mixin to make that happen. :)`
`09:33.17`	`vhaarr`	`oh noes :P`
`09:33.19`	`vhaarr`	`Please don't.`
`09:34.50`	`Kemayo`	`Well, if I did that, I'd make it do a friends-currently-online tooltip, too. Some vague utility, etc.`
`09:35.32`	`vhaarr`	`FuBar_FriendsFu`
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`09:39.22`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: The Note icons in the guild charter are no longer right-aligned.`
`09:39.37`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: They align to the right of the class text, not at the edge.`
`09:40.30`	`-FISKER_Q\	`btw yacoob`
`09:41.15`	`Kemayo`	`Huh. I'll work out what did that.`
`09:41.23`	`CIA-11`	`03gngsk * r10041 10oSkin/ (8 files):`
`09:41.23`	`CIA-11`	`oSkin:`
`09:41.23`	`CIA-11`	`- AuctionFrame skin`
`09:41.23`	`CIA-11`	`- First attempt at changing frame strata for active tabs (quirky)`
`09:41.48`	`phyber`	`AuctionFrame. Sir, you are godlike.`
`09:42.14`	`Gngsk`	`it's mostly done, the scrollframes need nerfing`
`09:42.24`	`kergoth`	`ooh, auctionframe`
`09:42.26`	`phyber`	`going to try it out now :)`
`09:42.27`	`vhaarr`	`<3`
`09:42.29`	`Gngsk`	`but I wanna find a way to easily nerf every scroll frame we'll encounter in the future`
`09:43.22`	`[Taube]`	`hm. i�d love to see modified chat-buttons f�r oskin`
`09:43.33`	`oxman`	`i don't display chatbuttons ;D`
`09:43.33`	`Gngsk`	`buttons?`
`09:43.35`	`Gngsk`	`which buttons?`
`09:43.38`	`[Taube]`	`just the way the buttons on CharacterFrame are made, just for the chat`
`09:43.38`	`vhaarr`	`Gngsk: I'd like EquipCompare and Squishy oSkinned puppyeyes :P`
`09:43.40`	`oxman`	`but i love to see mainmenubar with oskin :D`
`09:43.50`	`Gngsk`	`the ones for moving up and down?`
`09:44.06`	`[Taube]`	`hm. nope. i�m searching for the right word...`
`09:44.16`	`Gngsk`	`the tabs for switching between chatframes?`
`09:44.24`	`[Taube]`	`the riders/channel names`
`09:45.35`	`Gngsk`	`hmm, don't follow ya, screenshot perhaps?`
`09:46.07`	`[Taube]`	`you said what i meant, the tabs for switching between chatchannels`
`09:46.45`	`vhaarr`	`between chatframes, you mean?`
`09:46.59`	`vhaarr`	`I'd love a oSkin around my chatframe box.`
`09:47.38`	`oxman`	`a oskin chatframe will be lovely`
`09:47.38`	`oxman`	`:')`
`09:47.52`	`Gngsk`	`/run oSkin:applySkin(ChatFrameX) :P`
`09:48.04`	`oxman`	`really ? .p`
`09:48.05`	`oxman`	`i go try`
`09:48.26`	`vhaarr`	`haha! excellent!`
`09:48.40`	`oxman`	`:)`
`09:48.55`	`Gngsk`	`it's not 100% working as intended though!`
`09:48.55`	`vhaarr`	`Gngsk: It needs a few pixels of padding though`
`09:48.59`	`Gngsk`	`aye`
`09:49.15`	`kergoth`	`i think i'm beginning to hate my new job already. working from home is great, but the work... i dont think i can code for a living anymore, i'm really starting to hate it :(`
`09:49.32`	`vhaarr`	`yes I stopped coding for a living, too`
`09:49.41`	`oxman`	`?`
`09:49.43`	`vhaarr`	`after many years`
`09:49.48`	`oxman`	`what's "coding for a living"`
`09:49.50`	`kergoth`	`i cant code and enjoy it anymore`
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`09:49.56`	`evl`	`How do I refer to a class method in SetScript ?`
`09:49.57`	`vhaarr`	`It doesn't give you anything.`
`09:49.59`	`kergoth`	`i'd rather watch tv or read a book now`
`09:50.02`	`kergoth`	`:\`
`09:50.05`	`vhaarr`	`It's just like working on a assembly line.`
`09:50.18`	`evl`	`I enjoy coding :)`
`09:50.24`	`evl`	`I did backend for a 5-6 years`
`09:50.31`	`evl`	`Now I've moved to flash`
`09:50.38`	`evl`	`really cool actually, visual, responsive, meaningful`
`09:51.03`	`oxman`	`ok vhaarr`
`09:51.04`	`Kemayo`	`....what's a good event-watching addon?`
`09:51.10`	`oxman`	`the best coding work is for a website xD`
`09:51.19`	`vhaarr`	`?`
`09:51.23`	`kergoth`	`i suck at graphics and design, my best work is backend`
`09:51.30`	`vhaarr`	`I did backend, too.`
`09:51.34`	`oxman`	`me too kergoth :D`
`09:51.35`	`vhaarr`	`Portal servers in Java.`
`09:51.40`	`vhaarr`	`Was fun for 3 years.`
`09:52.22`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: Depends what you need.`
`09:52.37`	`[Taube]`	`i�m quite good at design and visuals, but if i stare at code too long, well. i just sit there, stare, loose track of time and don�t do anything with it. just gimme my photoshop and all�s fine =D`
`09:52.38`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: MessageEvent or DevTools lets you see the events that are fired in your chatframes.`
`09:53.36`	`oxman`	`ah ah i'm all oskin`
`09:53.41`	`oxman`	`ChatFrame1, ChatFrame1Tab`
`09:53.41`	`oxman`	`xD`
`09:53.54`	`oxman`	`MainMenuBar :p`
`09:54.02`	`Kemayo`	`vhaarr: Thanks. :)`
`09:54.10`	`vhaarr`	`Kemayo: np mate`
`09:54.20`	`oxman`	`ah ah oskin ActionButton1 is fun`
`09:54.20`	`oxman`	`;p`
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`10:13.33`	`phyber`	`nice, Bagnon is also skinned :)`
`10:18.25`	`DarkImakuni`	`I can't decide... PerfectRaid or oRA? All I want is draggable raid group frames, like CTRA`
`10:18.40`	`CIA-11`	`03kemayo * r10042 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Make quest levels appear more thoroughly in NPC dialogs.`
`10:19.45`	`vhaarr`	`DarkImakuni: ehm, oRA does not provide frames.`
`10:20.19`	`kergoth`	`DarkImakuni: ora provides all of the ctra functionality _but_ the raid frames. that way you can pick whatever raid frames you like. xraid, perfectraid, etc`
`10:21.11`	`DarkImakuni`	`Right... thanks all :)`
`10:23.05`	`CIA-11`	`03kemayo * r10043 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Forgot to unregister an event.`
`10:23.37`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r10044 10oRA2/: oRA2: delete trunk repo.`
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`10:29.24`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: Did you read that post about CandyBar positions?`
`10:30.43`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r10046 10oRA2/ (27 files in 5 dirs): oRA2: svn properties externals the works`
`10:30.44`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah, he can go climb a tree :)`
`10:31.04`	`vhaarr`	`haha`
`10:31.20`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: I'd like to be able to hook OnClick on CandyBars, is that doable now?`
`10:31.32`	`[Ammo]`	`vhaarr: not yet`
`10:31.32`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r10047 10oRA2/oRA2.toc: oRA2: touch the toc`
`10:31.38`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm still working on that`
`10:31.42`	`[Ammo]`	`it's almost done`
`10:31.48`	`vhaarr`	`Cool, let me know if I can do anything.`
`10:31.52`	`[Ammo]`	`just that oRA2 is eating some time`
`10:32.03`	`vhaarr`	`yeah, it should be higher priority`
`10:32.04`	`[Ammo]`	`and I have a patch for growing instead of depleting bars to implement`
`10:32.14`	`[Ammo]`	`well oRA2 is in the trunk now`
`10:32.14`	`vhaarr`	`cool`
`10:32.17`	`[Ammo]`	`good luck with it :)`
`10:32.26`	`[Ammo]`	`still some TODO items :)`
`10:32.31`	`vhaarr`	`hah, there it is \o/`
`10:32.32`	`[Ammo]`	`I'll add my TODO.txt :)`
`10:38.03`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r10048 10oRA2/TODO.txt: oRA2: TODO added.`
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`10:40.05`	`haste`	`hello`
`10:40.10`	`vhaarr`	`hey`
`10:41.09`	`vhaarr`	`haste: perhaps the oRA1 stuff should just be tagged and removed from the trunk now?`
`10:41.25`	`haste`	`ask [Ammo]`
`10:41.30`	`haste`	`he knows how well oRA2 is working`
`10:41.39`	`haste`	`I'm basicly a casual raider atm`
`10:44.09`	`oxman`	`i use ora`
`10:44.09`	`oxman`	`:p`
`10:44.40`	`[Ammo]`	`I'd suggest not removing it yet`
`10:44.50`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm working on an extensive post on the forums atm`
`10:45.29`	`evl`	`I agree`
`10:45.35`	`evl`	`The trunk/branches are pretty messy now`
`10:45.48`	`evl`	`2-3 versions of the same addon and none of the old crap gets removed`
`10:45.57`	`evl`	`especially if something is moved from branches to trunk`
`10:46.51`	`evl`	`can we get trac too? :D http://dev.rubyonrails.org/timeline`
`10:47.19`	`haste`	`Wonder how many times taht has been asked for`
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`10:47.59`	`vhaarr`	`I don't like Trac.`
`10:48.02`	`evl`	`Cause it owns and would easily replace flyspray and the need for any other method of browsing, following the SVN repo`
`10:48.03`	`vhaarr`	`I like svnweb.`
`10:48.18`	`vhaarr`	`I don't like flyspray either. I like bugzilla.`
`10:48.20`	`kergoth`	`trac puts svnweb/viewcvs/etc to shame when it comes to the web interface to svn`
`10:48.31`	`kergoth`	`bugzilla is a flaming pile of crap interface wise. functionality wise, it kicks ass`
`10:48.45`	`vhaarr`	`You can skin it.`
`10:48.47`	`kergoth`	`trac's wiki and bts are both mediocre at best, unfortunately`
`10:48.50`	`kergoth`	`its still worthless`
`10:48.51`	`evl`	`bugzilla requires a full time maintainer.`
`10:48.52`	`vhaarr`	`But the default skin is ugly, yes.`
`10:48.55`	`kergoth`	`which is why gnome and kde had to do their own`
`10:49.05`	`kergoth`	`and even then its unpleasant`
`10:49.19`	`kergoth`	`imo of course`
`10:49.44`	`vhaarr`	`well, I have worked with bugzilla for many years and maintained an installation for 2 years, so I guess it's just that I'm used to it.`
`10:50.02`	`kergoth`	`i've worked with it for many years too`
`10:50.18`	`kergoth`	`i've been using linux and open source projects since '95, and i still hate it`
`10:50.20`	`vhaarr`	`the GNOME changes rock`
`10:50.20`	`evl`	`the Timelime module in Trac makes it worth installing along imho`
`10:50.20`	`kergoth`	`:P`
`10:50.23`	`Shyva`	`Morning guys :)`
`10:50.31`	`vhaarr`	`RedHat has some nice bz modifications too`
`10:50.46`	`vhaarr`	`kergoth: yeah, me too, haha`
`10:50.57`	`vhaarr`	`ubuntu is getting better, but man it still sucks ass`
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`10:52.17`	`evl`	`I know this question has been asked a million times before but here it is again: Is there any way to simplify updating of externals so I don't have to spend 15 minutes everytime someome updates Ace*?`
`10:52.47`	`haste`	`the perl script that was posted?`
`10:52.55`	`vhaarr`	`yes, and it has also been asked and answered on the forums.`
`10:53.34`	`-FISKER_Q\	`I should kill my ISP`
`10:53.39`	`kergoth`	`i love linux, i really do, but it saddens me how weak it still is even today on some things`
`10:53.55`	`evl`	`haste: which forum/topic/url :P`
`10:54.09`	`kergoth`	`for gods sake, it wasnt that long ago that linux still didnt have automatic software mixing in alsa for playing multiple sounds at the same time on sound cards with no hardware mixing`
`10:54.17`	`kergoth`	`and how long has windows done that?`
`10:54.22`	`haste`	`evl: no idea anymore, searc for perl or something`
`10:55.10`	`haste`	`oh btw, the australian crocodile guy died today =\`
`10:55.16`	`krka`	`alsa rocks now!`
`10:55.52`	`haste`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Irwin`
`10:55.53`	`haste`	`:-(`
`10:56.17`	`kergoth`	`alsa's still a pain in the ass to set up and use`
`10:56.34`	`haste`	`It's a PITA to setup, but man it beats OSS :3`
`10:56.42`	`kergoth`	`pfft, that doesnt take much`
`10:56.43`	`kergoth`	`;)`
`10:57.36`	`[Ammo]`	`posted about oRA2 on Ace2 Raid addons forum`
`10:57.43`	`[Ammo]`	`now it's time to have some lunch`
`10:58.00`	`DarkImakuni`	`:(`
`10:58.06`	`haste`	`kergoth: btw, ever experienced dnsmasq suddenly refusion to work after 5~ min?`
`10:58.54`	`kergoth`	`cant say that i have, but its been a while since i used dnsmasq (my wrt isnt running openwrt or my oe distro anymore)`
`10:59.55`	`haste`	`I was using dnsmasq for dhcp and dns, but it died yesterday - with no error`
`11:00.23`	`haste`	`I'll have to continue to poke it today`
`11:01.17`	`-FISKER_Q\	`Gngsk`
`11:01.26`	`-FISKER_Q\	`there should be indenting on that auctionhouse frame`
`11:01.48`	`krka`	`for me, alsa Just Works(tm)`
`11:01.57`	`krka`	`then again, i use debian, the n00b dist`
`11:02.10`	`sbu`	`[04:01] �sbu� mh, where to report bugs in sRaidFrames?`
`11:02.10`	`sbu`	`:`
`11:02.11`	`sbu`	`:)`
`11:02.44`	`haste`	`Try the forum, and ask if you should use Flyspray the next time :3`
`11:02.52`	`haste`	`then you are on the safe side`
`11:03.02`	`sbu`	`ohhh, flyspray - i remember ;o`
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`11:03.21`	`FISKER_Q`	`did you get that Gngsk ?`
`11:03.49`	`FISKER_Q`	`peer, never got along with him`
`11:04.33`	`sbu`	`or - even better - Saroz? you there? :)`
`11:04.45`	`evl`	`haste: am I right that you are using v1 of Metro and Babble in oUF?`
`11:05.26`	`haste`	`evl: oUF doesn't use Babble`
`11:05.34`	`evl`	`haste: dewdrop sorry`
`11:05.44`	`haste`	`and regarding Metro, probably - don't remember if there was a Ace2 version out`
`11:06.01`	`haste`	`It doesn't use Dewdrop-2.0 either, since it wasn't done when I made the dewdrop stuff`
`11:06.12`	`haste`	`oUF was an ace1 add on for a couple of weeks before Ace2 came`
`11:06.23`	`haste`	`I converted it to Ace2 during the alpha`
`11:06.28`	`evl`	`But you still maintain it in trunk?`
`11:06.34`	`haste`	`it's not in trunk at all`
`11:06.46`	`haste`	`and I'm rewriting it :3`
`11:07.00`	`haste`	`to use AceOO, and changing the option layout from pure dewdrop to GUI + Dewdrop`
`11:07.04`	`evl`	`hehe ok, I'll stick with my trunk oUF that works :P`
`11:07.12`	`evl`	`haste: you're including energy ticks?`
`11:07.14`	`haste`	`There is no turnk version!`
`11:07.16`	`haste`	`Yes`
`11:07.35`	`evl`	`you're right, no trunk :P`
`11:07.57`	`kergoth`	`wqa`
`11:07.59`	`kergoth`	`bah`
`11:10.29`	`ckknight`	`haste, AceEvent can handle schedules in place of Metrognome`
`11:10.49`	`haste`	`ckknight: It couldn't then :p`
`11:11.45`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: So now that you've fixed AceEvent, what's next? ;)`
`11:11.56`	`vhaarr`	`MrPlow!`
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`11:25.54`	`-FISKER_Q\	`hey Gngsk you there?`
`11:27.17`	`haste`	`I think he will reply when he's here`
`11:27.28`	`haste`	`you have already highlighted him several times`
`11:28.05`	`-FISKER_Q\	`ah well i'm not sure :P`
`11:28.17`	`-FISKER_Q\	`Each time i wrote to him i lost connection`
`11:33.12`	`-FISKER_Q\	`is there any addon that can show the name of the frame i'm mousing over?`
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`11:34.00`	`oxman`	`There is a macro to do that`
`11:34.31`	`oxman`	`GetMouseFocus():GetName()`
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`11:34.44`	`-FISKER_Q\	`thanks`
`11:37.16`	`-FISKER_Q\	`hmm oxman`
`11:37.27`	`-FISKER_Q\	`doesn't write anything here`
`11:39.43`	`DarkImakuni`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:40.26`	`-FISKER_Q\	`thanks`
`11:41.31`	`oxman`	`or /script message(mycode)`
`11:41.32`	`oxman`	`:)`
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`11:42.12`	`DarkImakuni`	`:P`
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`11:47.04`	`grzesieq`	`morning :)`
`11:47.20`	`oxman`	`afternoon :)`
`11:47.40`	`DarkImakuni`	`afternoon :)`
`11:47.55`	`grzesieq`	`morning = after school ;p`
`11:48.11`	`FISKER_Q`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:48.14`	`FISKER_Q`	`would that work?`
`11:48.21`	`oxman`	`yep`
`11:48.29`	`oxman`	`or maybe`
`11:48.38`	`oxman`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:48.40`	`oxman`	`or maybe`
`11:48.40`	`evl`	`WHY STEVE, WHYYYYYYYYYY`
`11:48.50`	`oxman`	`oSkin:applySkin(getglobal(GetMouseFocus():GetName())`
`11:48.52`	`FISKER_Q`	`ah`
`11:48.55`	`oxman`	`oSkin:applySkin(getglobal(GetMouseFocus():GetName()))`
`11:48.55`	`FISKER_Q`	`without getname`
`11:48.59`	`oxman`	`i thin my first will be good`
`11:49.31`	`FISKER_Q`	`the sillyness is funny`
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`11:54.24`	`FISKER_Q`	`stupid internet`
`11:54.30`	`FISKER_Q`	`now i just need to enumerate every framename in the game and apply oskin :)`
`11:54.41`	`CIA-11`	`03mikma * r10049 10oSkin/AddonFrames.lua: oSkin: Commented out ALL ludwig-code since latest ludwig (6.9.4) has the same background coded in. Will result error if uncommented.`
`11:54.41`	`packetlss`	`anyone got any tips of a good honor reporting addon?`
`11:55.07`	`vhaarr`	`packetlss: FuBar_HonorFu?`
`11:57.54`	`packetlss`	`vhaarr: can it run as minimap icon? or does it req. fubar?`
`11:58.07`	`vhaarr`	`It should be able to.`
`11:58.44`	`packetlss`	`i'll check it out then, thx`
`11:59.11`	`ckknight_`	`vhaarr, I don't know what's next.`
`11:59.23`	`ckknight_`	`that in and of itself is frightening`
`12:00.21`	`evl`	`ckknight: make a magical powder that solves all externals problems! :D`
`12:00.24`	`vhaarr`	`FuBar_ReagentFu from wowinterface needs a Ace2 remake and SVNification.`
`12:00.30`	`vhaarr`	`So does FuBar_GroupFu`
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`12:02.14`	`evl`	`I'd love to see an SVN cleanup that put old, unmaintained Ace1 mods in a separate folder, so people can take their favorite ace1 mods and move em back when converted`
`12:03.07`	`ckknight_`	`hrm`
`12:03.16`	`CIA-11`	`03skyboat * r10050 10/branches/FuBar_AnkhTimerFu/: Created folder remotely`
`12:03.53`	`ckknight_`	`packetlss, just remove FuBar as a dependency and set LoadOnDemand to 0 instead of 1`
`12:03.59`	`ckknight_`	`then it should work on its own.`
`12:05.36`	`evl`	`On the subject of Ace1->Ace2, Is there a rough guide somewhere on how to convert an Ace1 addon to Ace2? I have just 2/29 addons that are Ace1 now and I'd like to get rid of those extra 100k`
`12:06.23`	`CIA-11`	`03grimwald * r10051 10ImprovedRWF/ (4 files):`
`12:06.23`	`CIA-11`	`ImprovedRWF:`
`12:06.23`	`CIA-11`	`* moved localisation to separate files`
`12:06.23`	`CIA-11`	`* added option to set the font outline`
`12:06.23`	`CIA-11`	`* option to change oRA_RaidSay font size along with the IRWF font size removed`
`12:06.24`	`-FISKER_Q\	`oh my god WTB new isp`
`12:06.24`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:06.48`	`CIA-11`	`03skyboat 07Skyboat * r10052 10FuBar_AnkhTimerFu/: Created folder remotely`
`12:08.48`	`haste`	`what's the difference between the two FuBar_AnkhTimerFu?`
`12:08.57`	`haste`	`I noticed that Moonsorrow has one as well`
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`12:09.29`	`CIA-11`	`03skyboat 07Skyboat * r10053 10FuBar_AnkhTimerFu/FuBar_AnkhTimerFu.toc: FuBar_AnkhTimerFu: Fixed various typos in the .toc`
`12:14.05`	`CIA-11`	`03skyboat 07Skyboat * r10054 10FuBar_AnkhTimerFu/FuBar_AnkhTimerFu.toc: FuBar_AnkhTimerFu: Oops, uploaded wrong version.`
`12:15.19`	`vhaarr`	`evl: wikiwikiwiki`
`12:15.56`	`vhaarr`	`okay so help me here, according to a transcript, Sapphirons Life Drain happens at these intervals`
`12:15.57`	`vhaarr`	`10 or 12, 22, 44, 21, 24, 60, 24, 24, 44, 21`
`12:16.08`	`vhaarr`	`10 or 12 depending on when you really entered combat`
`12:16.18`	`vhaarr`	`we can normalise that to`
`12:16.20`	`vhaarr`	`10, 24, 44, 24, 24, 60, 24, 24, 44, 24`
`12:16.58`	`vhaarr`	`how does that continue?`
`12:17.13`	`frus`	`why normalize the 21 to 24?`
`12:17.21`	`frus`	`it's twice 21 after 44, so that should be accurate`
`12:17.56`	`frus`	`& it's not long enough to know for sure how it'll continue :)`
`12:18.04`	`vhaarr`	`wowwiki says "Life Drain - 12 second duration, 100 yard range, curse-type. Drains 1750 to 2250 health and heals Sapphiron for 3500 to 4500 every 3 sec. Used every 24 secs as well."`
`12:18.12`	`vhaarr`	`so 24 matches that`
`12:18.31`	`vhaarr`	`The warning will say "~24 sec to next"`
`12:19.17`	`packetlss`	`ckknight_: thx, it worked great`
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`12:31.17`	`phyber`	`Gngsk: with the AuctionFrame skin, you can't tell when you've selected a category`
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`12:35.34`	`CIA-11`	`03skyboat * r10055 10/branches/oSkin/: Created folder remotely`
`12:35.58`	`CIA-11`	`03skyboat * r10056 10/branches/oSkin/: Removed file/folder`
`12:36.00`	`haste`	`damn skyboat, should come on IRC instead`
`12:36.09`	`haste`	`ookey`
`12:36.38`	`oxman`	`how i can fixe the oSkin ChatFrame1 ?`
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`12:37.26`	`CIA-11`	`03skyboat * r10057 10/branches/oSkin/: oSkin: Skyboat branch added.`
`12:38.11`	`oxman`	`i've do oSkin:applySkin(ChatFrame1) and its not perfect :(`
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`12:38.24`	`CIA-11`	`03skyboat 07Skyboat * r10058 10oSkin/ (15 files): oSkin: Skyboat branch added.`
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`12:42.46`	`CIA-11`	`03phyber * r10059 10XPBarNone/ (Core.lua Textures/bantobar.tga Textures/glaze.tga):`
`12:42.46`	`CIA-11`	`XPBarNone:`
`12:42.46`	`CIA-11`	`- Added Glaze and BantoBar textures. Thanks oSkin and agUF.`
`12:43.25`	`vhaarr`	`Anyone know how to save the entire combat log?`
`12:44.34`	`oxman`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:44.49`	`oxman`	`vhaarr do you now with API use to ChatFrame1 oSkin ?`
`12:44.58`	`oxman`	`I dunno how fix the little padding`
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`12:45.06`	`vhaarr`	`no idea, sorry`
`12:45.07`	`vhaarr`	`thanks for the tip`
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`12:49.45`	`haste`	`anyone know if Skyboat has changed anything in his oSkin branch?`
`12:49.49`	`haste`	`if not I'll diff it :3`
`12:50.37`	`grzesieq`	`any masterloot mods in ace svn?`
`12:50.39`	`evl`	`Hmms, can't find the answer to this anywhere (atlast not clearly); what is the difference between pairs and ipairs?`
`12:50.47`	`haste`	`grzesieq: EasyMasterLoot or something`
`12:50.48`	`MoonWolf`	`No Idea, I did not know we needed a branch of it to begin with.`
`12:50.56`	`JoshBorke`	`evl: ipairs iterates through an integer indexed table`
`12:51.04`	`JoshBorke`	`evl: pairs iterates through a hash table`
`12:51.05`	`haste`	`MoonWolf: I'll diff it then`
`12:51.23`	`evl`	`JoshBorke: so what if I try to run ipairs on a hash and pairs on an indexed?`
`12:51.49`	`_icetrain`	`they return nothing`
`12:51.56`	`JoshBorke`	`evl: if there are no (continuous) integer keys it returns nothing`
`12:51.58`	`evl`	`o, thanks`
`12:52.03`	`JoshBorke`	`i would think that pairs might work though`
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`12:52.31`	`JoshBorke`	`then again, dunno`
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`12:55.47`	`krka`	`pairs work, but afaik the order is not guarenteed`
`12:57.05`	`JoshBorke`	`krka!`
`12:57.08`	`JoshBorke`	`i need that link again :_)`
`12:57.25`	`krka`	`ah right`
`12:58.00`	`krka`	`krka@Moiraine:~/irclogs$ grep Random freenode/#wowi-lounge.log \|grep zip`
`12:58.00`	`krka`	`19:11:18<krka> here you go! for all you people who think you might find any thing useful here: http://kristofer.no-ip.info:8080/~krka/tmp/RandomOldStuff.zip`
`12:58.21`	`bindi`	`hmm, i'm using the aced wardrobe version atm, but it seems its not getting updates anymore, anyone has a nice replacement for it?`
`12:58.40`	`JoshBorke`	`krka: danke`
`12:58.41`	`CIA-11`	`03skyboat * r10060 10AceAccept/ (. AceAccept.lua AceAccept.toc AceAcceptLocals.lua): AceAccept: Automatically accept summons and resurrections from other players.`
`12:58.46`	`krka`	`np`
`12:59.39`	`krka`	`JoshBorke: if you're gonna do some actual work related to it, check out GRAB there first, it has draggable buttons that snap to nearby buttons and better modular design`
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`13:00.09`	`krka`	`krkaButtons should work, after fixing it for patch changes et.c. but it's not very well designed`
`13:00.43`	`JoshBorke`	`mmk`
`13:00.52`	`haste`	`http://fuxsake.net/oSkin.html << Diff for those who want`
`13:02.14`	`oxman`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:02.17`	`oxman`	`that's very nice !`
`13:02.27`	`oxman`	`we need that for ChatFrame1 :)`
`13:02.49`	`haste`	`no we don't?`
`13:02.55`	`CIA-11`	`03moonwolf * r10061 10oSkin/CharacterFrame.lua: oSkin: Fixed the petpaperdollframe xp bar, attached it to bottom.`
`13:03.03`	`oxman`	`really ? so explain me how i can oSkin ChatFrame1`
`13:03.03`	`oxman`	`;)`
`13:03.07`	`evl`	`http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5633/lookoutstevewm8.jpg`
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`13:05.01`	`haste`	`I'm not touching the chatframes with a 30m stick even`
`13:05.05`	`CIA-11`	`03ven * r10062 10vChat/ (. Core.lua Libs/ locals.lua vChat.toc):`
`13:05.05`	`CIA-11`	`vChat:`
`13:05.05`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:05.05`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:05.38`	`CIA-11`	`03moonwolf * r10063 10oSkin/CharacterFrame.lua: oSkin: Fixed the petpaperdollframe Training poits string, attached it to the petxpbar.`
`13:07.52`	`CIA-11`	`03ven * r10064 10vChat/Libs/: vChat: externals`
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`13:09.28`	`MoonWolf`	`Bastards blizzard.`
`13:09.40`	`MoonWolf`	`They gave one texture in the pet xp bar a name, and one is nameless.`
`13:09.45`	`evl`	`haste: How much torsk in a b�tte do you need to make so that oUF doesn't show (PVP) when you're on a PVP server? :P`
`13:10.30`	`Azurewrath`	`ven: will vChat become a replacement for ChatFrameExtender? :) http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4205`
`13:10.55`	`haste`	`evl: whine at hC, he's the nub playing on a PvE server`
`13:11.39`	`evl`	`Because of that I suspect he will soon get stabbed through the heart by a giant manta ray, possibly right outside Booty Bat`
`13:11.42`	`evl`	`Bay*`
`13:11.42`	`MoonWolf`	`wtf is torsk ?`
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`13:11.57`	`evl`	`Oh My Cod� you don't know what Torsk it?`
`13:12.00`	`evl`	`Cod damn you`
`13:12.14`	`MoonWolf`	`no, i have no idea.`
`13:12.16`	`MoonWolf`	`what is it ?`
`13:12.20`	`evl`	`cod ofc.`
`13:12.27`	`evl`	`Cod save the queen`
`13:12.30`	`evl`	`Coddamnit`
`13:12.36`	`evl`	`OMFC`
`13:12.53`	`haste`	`I'm not a fan of torsk =\`
`13:13.09`	`Health`	`krka is my e-stalker`
`13:13.22`	`vhaarr`	`fried torsk with salt, pepper, lemon and grinded nuts ftw`
`13:13.28`	`DarkImakuni`	`rofl @ evl`
`13:13.30`	`MoonWolf`	`person who visits prostitutes Oo`
`13:13.34`	`evl`	`haste: Cod hates you 8)`
`13:13.52`	`Health`	`http://www.dintur.no/bilder/Vikna%20-%20torsk.jpg`
`13:14.10`	`Health`	`That's torsk!`
`13:14.27`	`evl`	`That truly says somethin.`
`13:14.29`	`haste`	`guess what b�tte is now!`
`13:14.33`	`evl`	`Cod is Great, and he is among us`
`13:14.53`	`krka`	`grinded nuts sounds painful`
`13:14.57`	`krka`	`(yet tasty)`
`13:15.01`	`evl`	`lol`
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`13:15.06`	`evl`	`B�tte is like`
`13:15.20`	`evl`	`Taru'n i munnen for en b�tte torsk?`
`13:15.22`	`tazmanyak`	`hello all ^^`
`13:15.29`	`evl`	`Common pickup line`
`13:15.41`	`haste`	`You have to use google to figure it out!`
`13:15.45`	`haste`	`no english word allowed :3`
`13:17.24`	`MoonWolf`	`~dict b�tte`
`13:17.35`	`MoonWolf`	`damn you pulr!`
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`13:18.26`	`evl`	`Okay, time is up`
`13:18.37`	`evl`	`"Do you take it in the mouth for a bucket of cod" is the actual translation`
`13:18.41`	`evl`	`-/+ slang`
`13:18.48`	`MoonWolf`	`right`
`13:19.44`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm... was just browsing a bit through my addons... is ShowMyChat still needed?`
`13:19.56`	`haste`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:20.17`	`[Ammo]`	`show my chat was never needed for me :)`
`13:20.27`	`[Ammo]`	`you must have been using some silly addons that screwed you over`
`13:20.45`	`Azurewrath`	`you mean like silly Ace2 Addons? duck ;)`
`13:21.02`	`[Ammo]`	`some addons that fucked your chatwindows`
`13:21.04`	`haste`	`[Ammo]: I thought so first also, then I disabled all add ons and checked`
`13:21.06`	`[Ammo]`	`I never had a problem with that`
`13:21.17`	`haste`	`and then I rested my chat settings, and re-made them`
`13:21.19`	`haste`	`still there`
`13:21.30`	`vhaarr`	`yes, it is a blizzard bug`
`13:21.38`	`haste`	`It's only there on login tho'`
`13:21.48`	`haste`	`reloadui works as intended without it`
`13:22.10`	`[Ammo]`	`weird`
`13:22.19`	`[Ammo]`	`wonder what settings you have that needs that`
`13:22.55`	`haste`	`Has to do with the amount of tabs`
`13:23.14`	`haste`	`I have chatframe2 detached and three extra behind ChatFrame1`
`13:23.40`	`haste`	`but I also got it when ChatFrame2 wasn't detached`
`13:24.01`	`[Ammo]`	`I have 2 frames`
`13:24.05`	`[Ammo]`	`normal chat and combatlog`
`13:24.14`	`[Ammo]`	`seperated`
`13:24.22`	`haste`	`well, no wonder it doesn't happen :p`
`13:24.29`	`haste`	`it selects the last tab on ChatFrame1`
`13:24.34`	`haste`	`which then is your chatframe1`
`13:24.53`	`haste`	`dock Chatframe2 in ChatFrame1 and relog, see if it still works then`
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`13:26.57`	`Soltanis`	`haste : chat frames disappering?`
`13:27.05`	`yacoob`	`the bug is there, even with pristine ui`
`13:27.14`	`yacoob`	`last created chat frame gets focus`
`13:27.16`	`CIA-11`	`03tazmanyak * r10065 10SimpleCombatLog/SimpleCombatLog.toc: SCL - Interface 11200 cause it's time to do it ^^`
`13:29.09`	`haste`	`Soltanis: nope, the last frame gets focused on login`
`13:29.41`	`Soltanis`	`well on one of accounts I get the last frame gets focus, and on another account my lose frames just disapper completely when i zone into bg's some times`
`13:29.57`	`Soltanis`	`not be able to find out why`
`13:30.09`	`Soltanis`	`loose(`
`13:32.52`	`CIA-11`	`03tazmanyak * r10066 10FinderReminder/ (FinderReminder.toc locals.frFR.lua): FinderReminder - Finishing localsFr and toc update`
`13:33.53`	`DarkImakuni`	`Only 8 more addons and then I can get rid of Ace and FuBarCompat1.2...`
`13:34.20`	`yacoob`	`DarkImakuni: which are?`
`13:35.11`	`evl`	`I have two left`
`13:35.17`	`evl`	`Gonffbar and Minimalist`
`13:35.22`	`evl`	`gonna try to convert Minimalist today`
`13:36.06`	`Azurewrath`	`have PerfectRaid, Easyauction and SortEnchant left for Ace1`
`13:36.17`	`haste`	`PRaid doesn't use Ace1 tho'`
`13:36.30`	`haste`	`or it uses AceEvent if it's avaible through Ace1`
`13:36.32`	`haste`	`but that's it`
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`13:36.56`	`Azurewrath`	`ah Praid is no Problem.. clad's working on an Ace2 Version.. but easyauction seems to be abandoned`
`13:37.01`	`Azurewrath`	`same with SortEnchant`
`13:37.27`	`evl`	`Problem is AceDB i guess, it takes a bit more fiddling`
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`13:40.50`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx / Gngsk : did you check out my commit on oSkin, Ludwig's author made the same BG in ludwig and using the code in oSkin will result an error so i commented them out :)`
`13:41.18`	`phyber`	`yay!`
`13:41.34`	`phyber`	`just made a MoneyFu feature real easy to add ;)`
`13:42.08`	`phyber`	`i set the columns to 2 in the supercat, and tablet just ignores the 'text3' lines from the rest of the AddLine() stuff :)`
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`13:47.56`	`Mikma`	`i'm giving pr2 a go now`
`13:48.06`	`CIA-11`	`03phyber * r10067 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (MoneyFu.lua MoneyFuLocals.lua):`
`13:48.06`	`CIA-11`	`MoneyFu:`
`13:48.06`	`CIA-11`	`- Added option to hide the PerHour cash flow column.`
`13:48.10`	`oxman`	`?`
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`14:03.46`	`Thiana`	`Is there a way to :AddLine() to a tooltip but have a left and right side text?`
`14:04.18`	`krka`	`yes`
`14:04.47`	`krka`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_AddDoubleLine`
`14:04.51`	`Thiana`	`Thanks :)`
`14:05.17`	`krka`	`that site contains most if not all functions in game`
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`14:06.49`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: yo`
`14:06.49`	`Laric`	`[Ammo] is it the trunk version of ora2 to use now?`
`14:06.59`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: my friend found a bug on Pagemaster :(`
`14:07.12`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: shift+ mouseclick on spells = move them`
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`14:07.30`	`[Ammo]`	`Laric: read posting on forum for long answer, short answer: yes`
`14:07.41`	`Laric`	`oki :P`
`14:12.12`	`[Ammo]`	`now to make a first working version of my gatherer type mod`
`14:12.25`	`steino`	`oO`
`14:12.30`	`steino`	`wtb`
`14:12.39`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not even close to working :)`
`14:12.48`	`[Ammo]`	`but I have a vision`
`14:12.50`	`krka`	`how is it different from gatherer?`
`14:12.52`	`steino`	`:O`
`14:13.00`	`[Ammo]`	`it's Ace2, modular`
`14:13.16`	`[Ammo]`	`and does what I want it to do instead of what the author of gatherer felt useful :)`
`14:13.31`	`krka`	`let me rephrase: what features will it have that gatherer doesn't?`
`14:13.42`	`[Ammo]`	`low mem usage`
`14:13.46`	`oxman`	`oSkin for lootframe isn't very nice :/`
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`14:13.49`	`[Ammo]`	`not as large an increasing rate`
`14:13.57`	`krka`	`oh`
`14:14.05`	`krka`	`i am not familiar with how gatherer does it`
`14:14.10`	`krka`	`anything specific about it that's bad?`
`14:14.26`	`[Ammo]`	`the OnUpdate handler for the minimap update isn't very friendly`
`14:14.53`	`[Ammo]`	`but I'm not really making gatherer`
`14:15.10`	`[Ammo]`	`although the Herbalism module will be the first one I'll finish`
`14:15.24`	`[Ammo]`	`what I want is to pin a point on the map`
`14:15.29`	`krka`	`ah i see`
`14:15.36`	`krka`	`and automatically add points`
`14:15.38`	`[Ammo]`	`and modules can register points`
`14:15.46`	`[Ammo]`	`there will be a WorldMap module`
`14:15.50`	`[Ammo]`	`which shows them on the worldmap`
`14:15.51`	`krka`	`i want an NPC-point-adder`
`14:15.57`	`[Ammo]`	`a minimap module`
`14:16.07`	`[Ammo]`	`which can show you the points on your minimap`
`14:16.17`	`[Ammo]`	`but the one thing I really want is the 3d arrow module :)`
`14:16.25`	`[Ammo]`	`which shows you an arrow on your character :)`
`14:16.28`	`krka`	`increasing rate will probably not be as important after BC comes btw`
`14:16.38`	`krka`	`lua 5.1 = better garbage collection`
`14:16.40`	`[Ammo]`	`->> that way to dreamfoil! for instance`
`14:16.49`	`krka`	`cool`
`14:17.06`	`krka`	`that would be useful for autotravel`
`14:17.12`	`[Ammo]`	`not really autotravel`
`14:17.13`	`[Ammo]`	`but yeah`
`14:17.15`	`krka`	`i could rebuild it to a "directions" addon`
`14:17.23`	`krka`	`show how get somewhere`
`14:17.27`	`krka`	`+to`
`14:17.28`	`[Ammo]`	`well that can be a module then`
`14:17.31`	`[Ammo]`	`register some locations`
`14:17.33`	`krka`	`yeah`
`14:17.36`	`[Ammo]`	`and ask the thing to point you to a location`
`14:17.47`	`[Ammo]`	`or a series of locations`
`14:17.55`	`[Ammo]`	`I'll trigger events when you're on a certain spot as well`
`14:18.09`	`[Ammo]`	`so you can show arrows for the next spot`
`14:18.18`	`krka`	`already have detection :P`
`14:18.20`	`[Ammo]`	`but that's all written down on piece of paper :)`
`14:18.29`	`krka`	`actually detecting if you're on / near a line`
`14:18.30`	`[Ammo]`	`first I'm working on the core`
`14:18.38`	`[Ammo]`	`and the herbalism / worldmap / minimap module`
`14:19.39`	`krka`	`sounds good`
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`14:19.42`	`steino`	`is it possible to make a miniworldmap module? :p`
`14:19.53`	`krka`	`that's what he said`
`14:20.02`	`steino`	`not a minimap module`
`14:20.08`	`steino`	`a miniworldmap module`
`14:20.21`	`oxman`	`to do ?`
`14:20.21`	`[Ammo]`	`?`
`14:20.37`	`steino`	`like, you have a frame showing the worldmap with spawns`
`14:20.41`	`[Ammo]`	`ah ok`
`14:20.49`	`[Ammo]`	`well if you use alphamap or something it should work as well`
`14:20.56`	`steino`	`so you dont have to pop worldmap all the time`
`14:20.57`	`steino`	`:O`
`14:20.58`	`[Ammo]`	`that's my intention at least`
`14:21.43`	`Health`	`There was a pretty useful app for another game I played... "How to I get to point x to y!?" and it would calculate the most optimised travel path`
`14:22.09`	`yacoob`	`Health: I think right now it's impossible to do such thing.`
`14:22.40`	`Health`	`Why would it be that?`
`14:22.49`	`[Ammo]`	`it's not impossible`
`14:22.56`	`[Ammo]`	`it's just that travelling the route automatically is nolonger possibe`
`14:22.58`	`CIA-11`	`03moonwolf * r10068 10oSkin/RotatableModelFrames.lua: oSkin: Dressupframe now rotates.`
`14:23.00`	`Health`	`Register all flight paths, register all travel patchs`
`14:23.02`	`yacoob`	`that's another thing :)`
`14:23.17`	`oxman`	`MoonWolf redesign the lootframe please, its hawful actuallt`
`14:23.32`	`MoonWolf`	`don't make me do design, i suck at it.`
`14:23.37`	`krka`	`autotravel calculates the best path right now`
`14:23.38`	`MoonWolf`	`only doing to easy stuff.`
`14:23.40`	`krka`	`just can't walk it`
`14:23.42`	`oxman`	`i want say remake the oSkin`
`14:23.52`	`krka`	`well, if you have a properly set up graph`
`14:24.03`	`MoonWolf`	`oSkin looks fine so far IMHO`
`14:24.24`	`oxman`	`the lootframe ?`
`14:24.32`	`MoonWolf`	`Have no seen it actually.`
`14:24.32`	`oxman`	`do you've already see the lootframe ?`
`14:24.33`	`oxman`	`horrible`
`14:24.42`	`oxman`	`oSkin looks very fine`
`14:24.42`	`MoonWolf`	`screenie ?`
`14:24.47`	`oxman`	`but the lootframe arg...`
`14:25.03`	`oxman`	`Wait I will do that in few minutes`
`14:25.08`	`oxman`	`(no loot actually :p)`
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`14:26.23`	`[Ammo]`	`oxman: the loot frame is done by Haste, in his style, doubt he wants change to it )`
`14:26.33`	`oxman`	`I don't think`
`14:26.42`	`oxman`	`it don't look as oSkin`
`14:27.14`	`krka`	`ah... you meant taking flight paths into account too`
`14:27.23`	`Health`	`Yes`
`14:27.39`	`krka`	`that wouldn't be so hard to add into autotravel actually... you can figure out all the flight times and we know the run speeds`
`14:27.46`	`Health`	`As flight paths can be timed`
`14:28.03`	`krka`	`just had to input your traveling speed (normal run, cheetah, shaman ghost wolf, mount, epic mount, et.c.)`
`14:28.25`	`Health`	`(drop down menu populated based on class)`
`14:28.27`	`krka`	`flightpaths is almost always faster though`
`14:28.40`	`Health`	`Boats too!`
`14:28.43`	`bindi`	`hmm any clue on a decent Ace2 alternative on wardrobe/outfitter/... anyone?`
`14:28.50`	`krka`	`or just automatically detect the fastest option you have`
`14:28.55`	`krka`	`by class / level / items`
`14:28.56`	`vhaarr`	`AceWardrobe?`
`14:29.09`	`bindi`	`acewardrobe isn't ace2, seems not to be updated anymore i think`
`14:29.13`	`vhaarr`	`ah`
`14:29.13`	`bindi`	`or i am totally wrong :p`
`14:29.20`	`[Ammo]`	`someone rewrite it`
`14:29.20`	`vhaarr`	`I have no idea.`
`14:29.22`	`[Ammo]`	`:)`
`14:29.42`	`Health`	`remake autotraveler to "whereami?"`
`14:30.07`	`krka`	`itemrack FTW`
`14:30.09`	`krka`	`not sure if that's ace2 though`
`14:30.29`	`[Ammo]`	`itemrack is pretty good, but I only use the trinket swap and wand swap options`
`14:30.38`	`[Ammo]`	`wish trinketmenu would include wandswapping`
`14:30.45`	`[Ammo]`	`then I'd use that because itemrack is overkill`
`14:31.03`	`krka`	`my old version of itemrack isn't aced at all though`
`14:31.26`	`krka`	`not that see why _all_ addons should use ace, some addons don't benefit from it`
`14:31.52`	`oxman`	`all will benefit of ace`
`14:31.56`	`oxman`	`excep very very little addon`
`14:32.02`	`oxman`	`without hook, event, and stuff like that`
`14:32.20`	`[Ammo]`	`I like good addons that do what they're supposed to do`
`14:32.28`	`bindi`	`aced versions use less memory`
`14:32.28`	`[Ammo]`	`wether they are Ace or not doesn't really matter`
`14:32.30`	`bindi`	`mostly :p`
`14:32.43`	`bindi`	`and are mostly decent :)`
`14:32.58`	`Mikk`	`Yeah, people that care enough to use Ace tend to be clueful enough to write decent addons.`
`14:33.05`	`oxman`	`not mine xD`
`14:33.07`	`Mikk`	`But the same people can write decent addons without Ace :-P`
`14:33.23`	`oxman`	`but with more memory etc`
`14:33.24`	`Health`	`krka can't write addons!`
`14:33.42`	`krka`	`For All Indents And Purposes wouldn't need any db management, no hooking, no custom events, et.c.`
`14:33.58`	`krka`	`but that's not a very typical addon i suppose`
`14:33.59`	`Industrial`	`wasnt \|r for getting the color code in text back to normal?`
`14:34.03`	`krka`	`yes`
`14:34.09`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`14:34.25`	`Industrial`	`Then whats wrong with this: text = string.format('\|cffffffff%s\|r %s', date('%X'), text)`
`14:34.26`	`krka`	`if you type \| in a game editor, it gets stored as \|\|though`
`14:34.44`	`Industrial`	`the problem is that all my text is white :P`
`14:35.00`	`krka`	`ffffff is the code for white`
`14:35.01`	`oxman`	`the default color is white so`
`14:35.01`	`oxman`	`;p`
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`14:35.04`	`krka`	`what's the problem`
`14:35.26`	`Industrial`	`that the second argument should be another color if the text isnt white`
`14:36.21`	`Industrial`	`I just want a white timestamp and whatever follows to be colored normally - but its all white now`
`14:36.33`	`Industrial`	`maybe its another addon doing it -_-'`
`14:36.44`	`bindi`	`bleh`
`14:37.34`	`krka`	`i propose the following: function colorize(s, r, g, b) return string.format('\|c00%xx%xx%xx%s\|r', r255, b255, c*255, s) end`
`14:37.54`	`krka`	`could be a nested coloring i suppose`
`14:37.58`	`krka`	`not sure how wow handles that`
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`14:39.20`	`eternally777`	`'morning`
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`14:40.11`	`evl`	`Any Ace2'd Tooltip mod?`
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`14:40.42`	`bindi`	`tinytip is nice`
`14:40.56`	`evl`	`oh, it's ace2 :D`
`14:41.01`	`evl`	`lol, /me slaps himself`
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`14:42.41`	`Industrial`	`http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1981/wowscrnshot090406164039eo3.jpg`
`14:42.42`	`Industrial`	`:s`
`14:44.03`	`eternally777`	`What font is that Industrial?`
`14:44.07`	`Industrial`	`verdana`
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`14:44.51`	`grumpey`	`that's nice`
`14:45.04`	`haste`	`Bitstream Vera Serif for chat logs Georgia for battle text = win`
`14:45.14`	`Industrial`	`yeah its just clearfont with verdana`
`14:46.23`	`krka`	`<3 bitstream vera fonts`
`14:46.51`	`oxman`	`So`
`14:46.56`	`oxman`	`the dirty lootframe with oSkin`
`14:47.02`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10069 10idChat2_Timestamps/idChat2_Timestamps.lua: idChat2_Timestamps: Updated, still has the error`
`14:47.08`	`oxman`	`http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/tmp17.php`
`14:47.16`	`Health`	`I think it doesn't look too oSkin either`
`14:47.26`	`oxman`	`look that [Ammo] ;)`
`14:47.34`	`oxman`	`MoonWolf too :p`
`14:47.40`	`Health`	`I don't like how it doesn't show the item color in the text name either.`
`14:48.00`	`oxman`	`yep its dirty :\|`
`14:48.02`	`MoonWolf`	`looks fine to me Oo`
`14:48.10`	`oxman`	`really ? oo`
`14:48.23`	`oxman`	`i can't believe that`
`14:48.28`	`Industrial`	`http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/idChat2_Timestamps/idChat2_Timestamps.lua`
`14:48.33`	`Industrial`	`in AddMessage()`
`14:48.34`	`MoonWolf`	`the bar could use a small tweak but that is all.`
`14:48.37`	`Merentar-`	`Why is that dirty ?`
`14:48.47`	`Health`	`Give the item name the right item colors at least! :P`
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`14:48.59`	`oxman`	`look all frames of oSkin, it don't looks like oSkin frame :/`
`14:49.05`	`oxman`	`+1 Health`
`14:49.29`	`MoonWolf`	`its not my mod, i only use it a bugfix a bit.`
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`14:50.07`	`CIA-11`	`03ven * r10070 10vChat/ (Core.lua locals.lua vChat.toc):`
`14:50.07`	`CIA-11`	`vChat:`
`14:50.07`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:50.07`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:50.07`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`14:51.04`	`Industrial`	`vChat? :o`
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`14:51.36`	`MoonWolf`	`idchat is getting competition ?`
`14:51.49`	`oxman`	`chatmod is the best :p`
`14:52.29`	`Industrial`	`I dont care really :P`
`14:53.28`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r10071 10oSkin/GroupLootFrame.lua: oSkin (GroupLootFrame) - Shows item quality on the name.`
`14:53.36`	`oxman`	`lol`
`14:53.37`	`oxman`	`:D`
`14:54.18`	`haste`	`fucking douchebags!`
`14:54.27`	`haste`	`quit the grouploot whining :(`
`14:55.02`	`Health`	`aww`
`14:55.13`	`oxman`	`i reload and test :p`
`14:55.32`	`haste`	`I didn't test it myself`
`14:55.36`	`haste`	`so tell me if it blows up`
`14:55.36`	`oxman`	`line 11`
`14:55.43`	`oxman`	`attempt to call method grouplootframe a nil value`
`14:55.43`	`oxman`	`in core.lua`
`14:55.44`	`oxman`	`:)`
`14:55.56`	`haste`	`actually it will`
`14:56.05`	`oxman`	`? :)`
`14:56.42`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r10072 10oSkin/GroupLootFrame.lua: oSkin (GroupLootFrame) - The bomb has been disarmed.`
`14:57.02`	`oxman`	`i see the default loot frame :p`
`14:57.13`	`haste`	`bongos user?`
`14:57.15`	`FISKER_Q`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4360`
`14:57.16`	`oxman`	`nop`
`14:57.18`	`oxman`	`i try again`
`14:57.24`	`FISKER_Q`	`How can it find items without a database? :o`
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`14:58.03`	`oxman`	`no error now`
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`14:59.22`	`oxman`	`still not very nice ://`
`14:59.45`	`oxman`	`for i = 1, 28000 do`
`14:59.46`	`oxman`	`local gName, gLink, gQual, gLvl, gType, gType2 = GetItemInfo(i)`
`14:59.50`	`oxman`	`now you know FISKER_Q ;)`
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`15:00.13`	`oxman`	`it's a good idea :)`
`15:00.18`	`phyber`	`those addons arn't supposed to work anymore.`
`15:00.33`	`phyber`	`if you try to get info for an item the server hasn't seen yet you will get disconnected.`
`15:00.37`	`oxman`	`why you crash too if you try to getiteminfo about an item ?`
`15:00.38`	`phyber`	`that was nerfed a long time ago.`
`15:00.47`	`oxman`	`ok`
`15:00.56`	`bindi`	`haste`
`15:01.06`	`bindi`	`any plans on ocb2?`
`15:01.08`	`haste`	`bindi`
`15:01.14`	`haste`	`define: plans`
`15:01.27`	`Saroz`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5174`
`15:01.45`	`oxman`	`project ? :p`
`15:01.47`	`bindi`	`reworking otravi casting bar for ace2`
`15:01.58`	`bindi`	`so i can throw away ace1 :)`
`15:02.04`	`haste`	`bindi: branches`
`15:02.20`	`haste`	`It's there, it's almost done blah blah blah :3`
`15:02.28`	`bindi`	`:D`
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`15:03.01`	`oxman`	`## Interface: 11100`
`15:03.03`	`oxman`	`in the toc`
`15:03.13`	`oxman`	`are you sur the getiteminfo crash you phyber ?`
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`15:04.15`	`oxman`	`you're wrong phyber :)`
`15:04.25`	`Health`	`I think it does. And I've heard rumours that if you look up too many incorrect items you can get banned.`
`15:04.27`	`oxman`	`dump GetItemInfo(27000)`
`15:04.29`	`oxman`	`return nil`
`15:04.30`	`oxman`	`without crash`
`15:04.31`	`oxman`	`:)`
`15:04.48`	`oxman`	`link an item don't exist on server crash you yep`
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`15:04.59`	`oxman`	`but try to GetItemInfo on an item don't on the server return nil`
`15:05.03`	`oxman`	`and not crash you :p`
`15:05.30`	`Health`	`Ah, nice...`
`15:05.50`	`Health`	`Then you have a list of all items - then you can create a link of them?`
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`15:06.29`	`Health`	`Sounds like fun :D`
`15:06.38`	`oxman`	`:p`
`15:08.19`	`oxman`	`yep its work fine`
`15:08.25`	`oxman`	`13003 works here :)`
`15:09.05`	`phyber`	`ah, right.`
`15:09.13`	`phyber`	`that's how KCI knows how many items are good links then :)`
`15:09.14`	`oxman`	`so it's very good`
`15:09.16`	`oxman`	`i will use one :)`
`15:10.00`	`Nightdew`	`does anyone have problems with the squeenix not show map inside of IF ?`
`15:10.59`	`Health`	`Can you create a link to an item that doesn't exist on the server? But exsist in the data files`
`15:11.09`	`Health`	`I mean, if no one has looted it`
`15:11.22`	`Health`	`For some reason I've heard something about that`
`15:12.30`	`oxman`	`I believe no`
`15:14.27`	`oxman`	`HOW MY GOD THE BUG`
`15:14.35`	`oxman`	`we've loot a totem for chaman`
`15:14.40`	`oxman`	`i try to link it to my guild`
`15:14.44`	`oxman`	`disconnect`
`15:14.52`	`oxman`	`i believe the item haven't yet looted`
`15:14.55`	`oxman`	`so disconnect`
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`15:19.58`	`andreasg`	`NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO`
`15:20.06`	`andreasg`	`Steve Irwin :(`
`15:20.37`	`snurre`	`it sucks :(`
`15:20.54`	`haste`	`andreasg: I know :(`
`15:20.59`	`CIA-11`	`03saroz * r10073 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Hide all frames as you leave a raid, so when you enter a raid again, they are all hidden.`
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`15:22.05`	`eternally777`	`What happened?`
`15:22.19`	`andreasg`	`he died`
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`15:23.23`	`oxman`	`who he is ?`
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`15:23.48`	`andreasg`	`the crocodile hunter`
`15:23.53`	`oxman`	`dunno`
`15:26.03`	`phyber`	`http://wow.blupp.net/item.php?id=311756`
`15:26.10`	`phyber`	`someone dedicated this (tasteless) item to him.`
`15:26.25`	`Tekkub`	`blimey`
`15:26.43`	`Tekkub`	`he did at least die cause a croc right?`
`15:26.53`	`grumpey`	`Stingray`
`15:27.19`	`[Ammo]`	`stingray`
`15:27.20`	`[Ammo]`	`indeed`
`15:27.22`	`[Ammo]`	`tekkub!`
`15:27.36`	`[Ammo]`	`did you see my flyspray?`
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`15:27.41`	`[Ammo]`	`for perfecttargets`
`15:27.46`	`Tekkub`	`yes I saw`
`15:27.50`	`[Ammo]`	`I'm baffled`
`15:27.54`	`tumetom`	`hiho`
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`15:28.02`	`[Ammo]`	`and iceroth reported the same problem`
`15:28.05`	`Tekkub`	`the "squished icons" is why I had that *1.5 on the width way back when...`
`15:28.13`	`[Ammo]`	`I never had that problem`
`15:28.14`	`tumetom`	`haste ? are you here?`
`15:28.19`	`[Ammo]`	`with the old ace1 version`
`15:28.28`	`Tekkub`	`as for the text shit, no clue why it's doing that, it should be auto-adjusting`
`15:28.32`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`15:28.39`	`[Ammo]`	`could it be framecache?`
`15:28.52`	`[Ammo]`	`WTB stuff etc`
`15:28.55`	`Tekkub`	`I'll tinker after work, only 4hr today`
`15:28.59`	`[Ammo]`	`k cool`
`15:30.16`	`tumetom`	`I do not like seeing everybody messing around with haste's oskin :(`
`15:32.46`	`oxman`	`the lootframe is ugly`
`15:33.14`	`haste`	`they aren't`
`15:33.28`	`haste`	`tumetom: and poke`
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`15:34.21`	`haste`	`eternally777: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Irwin`
`15:34.32`	`haste`	`err I mean: oxman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Irwin`
`15:34.56`	`oxman`	`thanks`
`15:35.39`	`haste`	`You live in a cube if you haven't heared of him`
`15:36.14`	`Neronix`	`It's sad`
`15:36.22`	`Neronix`	`the guy was like, a minor staple in my childhood`
`15:36.27`	`oxman`	`or i'm french`
`15:36.35`	`oxman`	`never hear anything about him in french`
`15:36.36`	`Mikma`	`i'm sorry`
`15:36.38`	`Neronix`	`he made wildlife FUN!`
`15:36.48`	`haste`	`yeh`
`15:36.56`	`oxman`	`i ask on my guild channel`
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`15:37.28`	`Neronix`	`compare that to the traditional wildlife show model: People hise far away with cameras on uberzoom`
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`15:37.35`	`Neronix`	`s/ise/ide/`
`15:37.36`	`FtH\|eagle`	`hi`
`15:37.47`	`oxman`	`no one know him in my guild`
`15:38.12`	`oxman`	`so i confirm we've never heard anything about him`
`15:38.13`	`Neronix`	`Whereas he went up close and handled them and brought his personality into it`
`15:38.24`	`Neronix`	`as opposed to a monotonous narrator`
`15:38.36`	`haste`	`he was the greatest :(`
`15:38.38`	`oxman`	`how he's die ?`
`15:38.46`	`Neronix`	`oxman: stung in the heart by a stingray`
`15:39.19`	`oxman`	`ok`
`15:39.32`	`andreasg`	`:/`
`15:39.40`	`Saroz`	`that's a tough way to go`
`15:39.54`	`haste`	`It's deadly to get the poison directly into the bloodstream only :<`
`15:39.56`	`oxman`	`hum my translator don't know stingray`
`15:40.05`	`Saroz`	`unlucky way to go`
`15:41.01`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10074 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs: Sapphiron: Add module.`
`15:41.06`	`Saroz`	`uhh`
`15:41.59`	`haste`	`oxman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray << it's a fish :3`
`15:42.20`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10075 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs: Add Sapphiron to TOC.`
`15:42.29`	`oxman`	`how ok..`
`15:42.33`	`haste`	`wasn't there only one other guy that had died from them in the area also?`
`15:43.53`	`Neronix`	`Yeah`
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`15:44.11`	`Neronix`	`only 2 stingray-related deaths in Australia ever, so Wikipedia says`
`15:45.16`	`MoonWolf`	`wow`
`15:45.18`	`MoonWolf`	`bad luck`
`15:46.42`	`oxman`	`GetLink works very well :)`
`15:46.45`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10076 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs: Set svn:keywords.`
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`15:47.47`	`Gngsk`	`MoonWolf, thanks for for fixing the hunter pet thing. I don't have a hunter on my account ><`
`15:47.55`	`MoonWolf`	`hehe no problem`
`15:48.04`	`MoonWolf`	`there is another problem, but i have not looked into it`
`15:48.17`	`MoonWolf`	`i think its because the new rotating frame is not in its proper strata`
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`15:48.57`	`Gngsk`	`which frame?`
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`15:51.35`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10077 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs: Sapphiron: Tweaks. Add timer bar for ice bomb deep breath.`
`15:51.53`	`[Ammo]`	`vhaarr: throttle the sending of the drain sync`
`15:51.57`	`[Ammo]`	`see maexxna`
`15:51.58`	`MoonWolf`	`someone already transcripted saph ?`
`15:52.01`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`15:52.10`	`[Ammo]`	`and someone specifically helped vhaar too`
`15:52.20`	`[Ammo]`	`by running chatlogs/combatlogs and transcriptor`
`15:52.43`	`[Ammo]`	`BigWigs world first Sapphiron module!`
`15:53.00`	`Merentar-`	`public world first`
`15:53.05`	`[Ammo]`	`true`
`15:53.08`	`Merentar-`	`There's a private one already done`
`15:53.08`	`[Ammo]`	`public world first`
`15:53.18`	`[Ammo]`	`I don't do private mods`
`15:53.24`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: wut?`
`15:53.31`	`vhaarr`	`aah`
`15:53.32`	`[Ammo]`	`you're afflicted by Life Drain thing`
`15:53.35`	`[Ammo]`	`needs to be throttled`
`15:53.37`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`15:53.41`	`[Ammo]`	`on the module side`
`15:53.47`	`[Ammo]`	`check Maexxna for example :)`
`15:53.52`	`[Ammo]`	`otherwise it looks good`
`15:53.54`	`vhaarr`	`thanks, yes`
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`15:56.32`	`haste`	`aah, Felstirker proc on a warlock :3`
`15:56.37`	`haste`	`while adrenalin rush is up`
`15:56.38`	`andreasg`	`what is Ludwig?`
`15:56.48`	`haste`	`Item thingy`
`15:56.52`	`haste`	`that uses the local cache`
`15:56.54`	`haste`	`and doesn't save`
`15:57.22`	`snurre`	`is that a good thing? :p`
`15:57.22`	`haste`	`item database!`
`15:57.24`	`haste`	`snurre: well, it takes less UI memory that way, I would belive`
`15:57.34`	`haste`	`or...`
`15:57.44`	`FtH\|eagle`	`[Ammo]: new candybar texture?`
`15:57.48`	`[Ammo]`	`yarr!`
`15:57.49`	`haste`	`you don't get item values and such`
`15:57.51`	`[Ammo]`	`it's PURTY`
`15:58.03`	`FtH\|eagle`	`ok, otherwise I wondered why I got that :P`
`15:58.04`	`[Ammo]`	`and much clearer than the old one`
`15:58.20`	`FtH\|eagle`	`sure`
`15:58.23`	`[Ammo]`	`people don't bother setting their own texture I think`
`15:58.25`	`FtH\|eagle`	`use it too for xrs and aguf :P`
`15:58.29`	`[Ammo]`	`:)`
`15:58.45`	`snurre`	`and praid`
`15:58.47`	`snurre`	`and ora2`
`15:58.51`	`snurre`	`and oCB`
`15:59.01`	`snurre`	`and swstats :p`
`15:59.17`	`haste`	`SW Stats is evil according to Tem`
`15:59.32`	`snurre`	`then Tem should make something better`
`15:59.34`	`snurre`	`now gogo!`
`16:00.00`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10078 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs: Sapphiron: Throttle Life Drain sync sending.`
`16:00.06`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: better?`
`16:00.09`	`[Ammo]`	`checking`
`16:00.14`	`nevcairiel`	`every addon like SWStats or DamageMeters is evil tbh :)`
`16:00.29`	`[Ammo]`	`good enough`
`16:00.42`	`[Ammo]`	`as in perfect :)`
`16:01.02`	`vhaarr`	`;)`
`16:05.10`	`sbu`	`mh, would be nice if using central event parsing ;o`
`16:07.40`	`Merentar-`	`Anything not ACE is evil according to TEM`
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`16:08.00`	`snurre`	`then ace it! .p`
`16:08.13`	`Merentar-`	`I have issues with the sync methods`
`16:08.29`	`Merentar-`	`But .. I have some notes on how to handle the rest`
`16:08.33`	`Merentar-`	`modularize it and stuff`
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`16:24.45`	`-FISKER_Q\	`does anyone have a link for greyhoof's eavesdrop`
`16:24.55`	`-FISKER_Q\	`(can't browse right now, my computer sucks)`
`16:25.01`	`Tuplad`	`:\`
`16:26.26`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1837.msg40156.html#msg40156`
`16:26.37`	`Mikma`	`soon i will stop support ^^`
`16:28.03`	`Tuplad`	`niceeeeeeee`
`16:28.29`	`-FISKER_Q\	`stop support_`
`16:28.30`	`-FISKER_Q\	`?`
`16:28.37`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: what would you tell someone, if they told you this: "Im looking for a mod that prevents me from buying overpriced items. I bought a stack of copper for 80 gold yesterday when i bought a couple from the same guy and this one was 80 instead of 80 silver"`
`16:29.02`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: "use your eyes"`
`16:29.30`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: no "fucking idiot" ?`
`16:29.34`	`Mikma`	`-FISKER_Q\: yes, stop support = not replying there
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`16:30.31`	`Mikma`	`no`
`16:30.48`	`Tuplad`	`kk`
`16:31.36`	`Saroz`	`Mikma fix all my problems please`
`16:32.26`	`Mikma`	`Saroz: no`
`16:33.01`	`Tuplad`	`vChat is like ... idChat ?`
`16:33.16`	`Saroz`	`aww`
`16:33.46`	`-FISKER_Q\	`ah`
`16:33.50`	`-FISKER_Q\	`thought you meant eavesdrop :(`
`16:33.56`	`-FISKER_Q\	`took my browser 5 minutes to load`
`16:34.01`	`-FISKER_Q\	`:&`
`16:34.54`	`Mikma`	`i wish someone would make a better actionbaraddon soon so i can abandon bt2 :P`
`16:35.34`	`Merentar-`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:35.43`	`Tuplad`	`:\|`
`16:35.51`	`Tuplad`	`^ what Merentar- said`
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`16:36.56`	`Mikma`	Industrial`: code better addon than bartender so i don't have to do it anymore ;)
`16:37.37`	`haste`	`haha`
`16:38.06`	`Mikma`	`people just request so stupid features :(`
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`16:38.29`	`camps`	`so, i want to load a class from another file, and i can't figure out how to do it.When i try 'kr = KillRecord:new("test","60")' it keeps saying that global KillRecord is a nil (KillRecord is my class)`
`16:45.14`	`nevcairiel`	`Mikma: i like it how it is right now, no fancy features, just plain and simple .. just ignore the requests :P`
`16:46.42`	`Mikma`	`nevcairiel: thanks, that was honest :)`
`16:46.45`	`nevcairiel`	`tho i would like the style-thing you did for maia :p`
`16:47.03`	`Mikma`	`true`
`16:49.56`	`CIA-11`	`03grayhoof * r10079 10EavesDrop/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)`
`16:49.56`	`CIA-11`	`EavesDrop:`
`16:49.56`	`CIA-11`	`-Localized addon.`
`16:49.56`	`CIA-11`	`-Changed up options menu some.`
`16:49.56`	`CIA-11`	`-Added Buff fade event.`
`16:49.56`	`CIA-11`	`-Added Width option.`
`16:49.58`	`CIA-11`	`-Added Healer ID option.`
`16:50.01`	`Mikma`	`wow`
`16:53.32`	Industrial`	`Mikma, I think idActionBar is better but thats just because its what I want`
`16:54.15`	Industrial`	`Mikma, and if the user has interest in the addon its very easy to make out what to change to edit paddgin/alpha/etc`
`16:54.28`	Industrial`	`And if they dont get it they can ask =P`
`16:54.49`	`phyber`	`Mikma: what requests have you been getting?`
`16:55.00`	`Mikma`	`phyber: check out from bt2 thread`
`16:55.09`	`phyber`	`Mikma: also, you should make bartender show when Onyxia will deep breath.`
`16:55.20`	`phyber`	`;p`
`16:55.23`	`nevcairiel`	`haha`
`16:55.23`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1837.msg39709.html#msg39709`
`16:55.24`	Industrial`	`But I just cant get this mother****ing chat addon to work correctly all day now :P`
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`16:56.07`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ`
`16:56.20`	`phyber`	`Mikma: ahh, useless things like that.`
`16:56.28`	`nevcairiel`	`most of the requests are simply breaking one bar into a two-row-bar-thing`
`16:56.34`	Industrial`	`Oh how I have missed you`
`16:56.47`	`phyber`	`well, the only thing I miss is the movable QuestWatchFrame. but I suppose if I really wanted it, I'd check how you did it in BT1`
`16:56.54`	`krka`	`nevcairiel... weird name`
`16:57.02`	`phyber`	`and make a small addon out of it.`
`16:57.22`	`nevcairiel`	`krka as well :)`
`16:57.26`	`Mikma`	`yeah, why in the hell people wan't to break bars into smaller ones`
`16:57.42`	Industrial`	`But now we are united once more - to form the duo named FuckedUpByCaff! DUN DUN DUNN!!!`
`16:57.58`	`-FISKER_Q\	`ok wtf`
`16:58.00`	`krka`	`krka is a national park in croatia or something!`
`16:58.08`	`-FISKER_Q\	`AQ40 saves when the Skeram splits and a split is dead`
`16:58.23`	`nev`	`yeah, noticed that yesterday as well`
`16:58.39`	`-FISKER_Q\	`btw`
`16:58.44`	`-FISKER_Q\	`His mindcontrol acted weird as well`
`16:58.45`	`Mikma`	`"can't you disable barswapping when stancing"`
`16:58.47`	`Mikma`	`argh`
`16:58.56`	`-FISKER_Q\	`he tried to use shoot bow with my rogue :)`
`16:59.03`	`nev`	`why would anyone want to disable that?`
`16:59.04`	Industrial`	`No just use a different bar for thse buttons`
`16:59.06`	`camps`	`ckknight: I still can't get that class to load from an external file. I think i read the entire lua manual now. It keeps saying i'm trying to reference a global when i try Class:new()`
`16:59.06`	Industrial`	`tellem that`
`16:59.07`	Industrial`	`:P`
`16:59.08`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1837.msg39923.html#msg39923`
`16:59.12`	`-FISKER_Q\	`btw [Ammo] i found out why i had the transparent bars`
`16:59.24`	Industrial`	`Mikma, tell em to do it themselves :>`
`16:59.25`	`nev`	`i cannot use my healing spells anyway when i shift to bear form :P`
`16:59.29`	`-FISKER_Q\	`it was because of !!!Libraries but it's kinda annoying cause without a lot mods doesn't work at all`
`16:59.36`	`Mikma`	heh Industrial` :D "use different bar"
`16:59.43`	Industrial`	`yeh`
`16:59.58`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1837.msg39920.html#msg39920`
`17:00.00`	`Mikma`	`ARGH`
`17:00.06`	`CIA-11`	`03andalia 07fontstrings * r10080 10BattleChat/BattleChat/BattleChat.lua:`
`17:00.06`	`CIA-11`	`BattleChat:`
`17:00.06`	`CIA-11`	`- Healername back.`
`17:00.06`	`CIA-11`	`- Removed so unneeded code`
`17:00.10`	`Mikma`	`that one makes me wan't to shoot myself`
`17:00.43`	`phyber`	`Mikma: tell them you'll add the feature for �15`
`17:00.51`	`Mikma`	`phyber: LOL`
`17:00.54`	Industrial`	`"No, I dont feel like it will benefit me. If you want it then you can edit this addon and make it suit your needs. The end."`
`17:01.05`	`nev`	`lol`
`17:03.00`	Industrial`	`Anyone here play planetside?`
`17:04.41`	`Mikma`	`"Dick, permission to bitch?"`
`17:04.48`	`Mikma`	`'approved'`
`17:05.06`	`Mikma`	`i love 3rd rock from the sun :D`
`17:05.32`	`Mikk`	`huaaaa i'm running cosmos`
`17:05.55`	Industrial`	`I made it make my geforce 9700GT work really hard to get 30fps. pretty impressive and it looked pretty nice too, although not close to say half-life 2. But that's just because its an MMOFPS :)`
`17:06.47`	Industrial`	`I really like planetside and wish I had discovered it earlier. Im an FPS player by heart and well.. I just love immense battles =P`
`17:06.56`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: !!!`
`17:07.04`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: that deserves some action`
`17:07.24`	`nev`	`i actually never had cosmos.`
`17:07.31`	`Mikma`	`Mikk: 4ZOMG! 8you 13are 11nuts!`
`17:07.31`	`nev`	`my first addons where the ctmod pack.`
`17:07.48`	Industrial`	`Mikk, wanna try my addon compilation next? =P`
`17:08.22`	`grzesieq`	`evl: ping`
`17:08.42`	Industrial`	`Question: Wasnt there an addon that just places the tooltip at the mouse on the svn?`
`17:10.11`	`Mikma`	Industrial`: perfecttooltip?
`17:10.38`	`*** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com)`
`17:11.18`	`-FISKER_Q\	`is Kyahx or haste here?`
`17:14.09`	Industrial`	`Mikma, thanks`
`17:14.57`	`Mikma`	`mm, i should propably install tekSupport and see does bt2 do something nasty`
`17:15.00`	`evl`	`grzesieq: msg, a bit afk :)`
`17:16.03`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10083 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs: Sapphiron: No need to check for start or stop combat. Apparently you get OOC some time during the fight or something.`
`17:17.41`	`CIA-11`	`03gngsk * r10084 10oSkin/AuctionFrame.lua: oSkin: Made it easier to tell which subcategory you're browsing when at the Auction House.`
`17:18.01`	`Andalia_`	`Mikma: Coloring the button-border would be something i'd like to see in bartender2, too :P`
`17:18.36`	`Mikma`	`well i hope someone will make it then since i have no idea how to use colorpicker etc`
`17:19.25`	`grzesieq`	`evl: how's Consumer + bongos going on? :)`
`17:19.27`	`Andalia_`	`I think I'd hardcode that for me if i'd really need it`
`17:20.23`	`[NI]Machine`	`wtb new guild`
`17:22.14`	`Cartass`	`WTS new guild.`
`17:23.42`	`Health`	`Gngsk: Inspect frame needs 3 pixels down!`
`17:24.13`	`[NI]Machine`	`So, all the addons are automagically zipped nowadays. No more svn updates?`
`17:24.51`	Industrial`	`for the users yes :D`
`17:24.58`	Industrial`	`neato init`
`17:25.10`	`Cartas`	`What?`
`17:25.12`	`Cartas`	`No SVN?`
`17:25.36`	`grzesieq`	`wtb another class at 60`
`17:26.04`	Industrial`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1980.0.html`
`17:26.18`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10085 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs: Sapphiron: I should drink less beer during bossmodmaking.`
`17:27.26`	`Mikma`	`ok i need a name for the maia's mockup -layout`
`17:27.37`	`bindi`	`lol :p`
`17:28.16`	Industrial`	`http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/ <-- why are mine and hastes addons not in alphabetical order between the others?`
`17:28.18`	Industrial`	`:s`
`17:28.28`	`Cartas`	`Because you two are the best.`
`17:28.31`	Industrial`	`Mikma, where url?`
`17:28.45`	Industrial`	`Cartas, lol no wai`
`17:28.53`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1837.msg33967.html#msg33967`
`17:28.53`	`Cartas`	`Well, okay.`
`17:28.55`	`Cartas`	`Just haste is.`
`17:28.56`	`Neronix`	Industrial`: capitalisation
`17:29.07`	Industrial`	`o`
`17:29.11`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1837.msg34479.html#msg34479`
`17:29.32`	`Neronix`	`you and haste name your addons like "idChat" rather than "IdChat"`
`17:29.35`	`haste`	Industrial`: It's A-Za-z I believe
`17:29.48`	`haste`	`like on my local file system :3`
`17:29.53`	Industrial`	`well thats silly`
`17:29.55`	Industrial`	`:P`
`17:29.57`	`Cartas`	`Pfft.`
`17:30.02`	`oxman`	`Mikma you ave implemented that ?`
`17:30.05`	Industrial`	`its not intuitive =P`
`17:30.07`	`oxman`	`or its still in macro`
`17:30.11`	`Mikma`	`yeah i'm now starting to code it`
`17:30.11`	`Cartas`	`Ignore them, Industrial! You know it's really because you and Haste are the best.`
`17:30.14`	`haste`	`Fisker: I'm here btw, but I couldn't be arsed to highlight your nick :p`
`17:30.31`	`Mikma`	`ill propably remove the normal borders completely or so`
`17:30.47`	Industrial`	`Cartas, me and haste are "special" =P`
`17:31.03`	`MoonWolf`	`hehe, special.`
`17:31.04`	`haste`	`function oCD:DiscordAction(this, start, duration, enable)`
`17:31.29`	`haste`	`I have 24MB UI memory now, without options dialog loaded`
`17:31.40`	`Cartas`	`Ouch.`
`17:31.44`	`haste`	`31MB with the option dialog`
`17:31.45`	`haste`	`rofl`
`17:31.54`	Industrial`	`owned! im at 17 cause of ag_Unitframes :<`
`17:32.11`	`Neronix`	`~14.5`
`17:32.19`	Industrial`	`but they are sexy ;D`
`17:32.19`	`Cartas`	`I'm at 23mb... just installed Ludwig to try it ;P`
`17:32.19`	`Cartas`	`and I'm in a raid`
`17:32.20`	`Cartas`	`Raids FTL :(`
`17:32.22`	Industrial`	`ludwig is nice`
`17:32.23`	`Neronix`	`30mb on my mule (damn auctioneer)`
`17:32.24`	`Gngsk`	`zomg, the wiki is down`
`17:32.26`	`oxman`	`yep ver nice`
`17:32.28`	`Gngsk`	`I can't code now!`
`17:32.30`	`oxman`	`i use it since 10mn`
`17:32.30`	`oxman`	`:D`
`17:32.41`	`nev`	`i am on 25 .. dunno what i could get rid of to save mem tho :(`
`17:33.09`	`haste`	`cool, I started one cooldown`
`17:33.15`	`haste`	`and the function fired 69 times`
`17:33.32`	`Neronix`	`O.o`
`17:33.37`	`Neronix`	`~lozareth`
`17:33.39`	`purl`	`A man who stole your FPS and Memory aka The Boogyman of http://www.discordmods.com/ - "I got mem so why not use it"`
`17:33.54`	`-FISKER_Q\	`haste`
`17:34.07`	`-FISKER_Q\	`I think oskin is bypassing the "Rolling on this item will bind it to you"`
`17:34.21`	`nev`	`discord is fun, saved like 20mb only with switching from dab and duf :P`
`17:34.23`	`haste`	`fix your nick >.<`
`17:34.28`	`vhaarr`	`yes please, fix it`
`17:34.36`	`Neronix`	`anyways, I need to a) work out how to stop oCBHS from resetting the autoshot timer when doing a shot b) work out why it occasionally skips an autoshot`
`17:34.37`	`haste`	It's a real PITA to make the `
`17:34.40`	`Neronix`	`and most importantly`
`17:34.41`	`yacoob`	`what did you switch from DAB to?`
`17:34.43`	`haste`	`It's THREE key presses`
`17:34.52`	`Neronix`	`c) make it less of a dirty frickin hack`
`17:34.59`	`nev`	`bartender2 :)`
`17:35.11`	`haste`	`FISKER_Q: I can check it later on, but not now`
`17:35.14`	`haste`	`adding DAB support :<`
`17:35.23`	`FISKER_Q`	`ok`
`17:35.34`	`Neronix`	`bah, I'll make my won bar`
`17:35.36`	`FISKER_Q`	`i obviously haven't tried on one of the epic raid drops`
`17:35.45`	`Neronix`	`no conflicts, more control`
`17:35.46`	`FISKER_Q`	`but the bop mounts from AQ40 said nothing when i greeded an item`
`17:35.48`	`Neronix`	`less hax`
`17:36.16`	`Azurewrath`	`ah well.. the "problem" with DUF&DAB is... they are still the best in meaning of flexibility and options`
`17:36.35`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10086 10idChat2/ (Core.lua idChat2.toc): idChat2: Had this small change lying around.. it like works now :P`
`17:36.55`	`grzesieq`	`crap`
`17:37.01`	`grzesieq`	`they took me for emps`
`17:37.04`	`grzesieq`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:37.10`	`yacoob`	`Azurewrath: exactly, I cannot find anything to replace dab :(`
`17:37.30`	`nev`	`which features do you need?`
`17:37.37`	`nev`	`so really "need"`
`17:37.47`	`Azurewrath`	`i did not even try with DAB.. ag_UF came close to DUF, but i switched back.. too much is missing`
`17:37.51`	`nev`	`i basicly removed everything after that thought :)`
`17:38.21`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10087 10idChat2_Timestamps/idChat2_Timestamps.lua: idChat2_Timestamps: Fixage! works fine now.`
`17:38.22`	`yacoob`	`free button placement, doing things on stance/shapeshift/avilability of action`
`17:38.27`	Industrial`	`dun dun DUN!`
`17:38.28`	`yacoob`	`this is a minimum`
`17:38.29`	`Azurewrath`	`noone really "needs" any mod.. but they provide functions i don't want to miss anymore :)`
`17:38.39`	`yacoob`	`flexbar does that, but isn't smaller`
`17:38.39`	Industrial`	`so much for the first idChat2 module - its done for now :P`
`17:38.51`	Industrial`	`next!`
`17:39.05`	`yacoob`	Industrial`: how much superior are idChat2 in comparison to idChat? :D
`17:39.07`	`Health`	`That does?`
`17:39.20`	Industrial`	`uh timestamps`
`17:39.26`	Industrial`	`and nothing yet - it just uses ace2`
`17:39.28`	`Health`	`Fantastic!`
`17:40.22`	`yacoob`	Industrial`: when I took your idchats, and ditched chatmod, I added idchatsticky to turn on sticky on all chanels :D
`17:40.42`	Industrial`	`;o`
`17:40.49`	`Azurewrath`	`btw. did anyone ever try to convert Loz to Ace2? ;)`
`17:40.59`	Industrial`	`pastebin the code and il add it`
`17:41.05`	`yacoob`	`yes, I know, 15 lines of incredibly neat code :D`
`17:41.19`	Industrial`	`or put it on the svn yourself for idChat2`
`17:41.48`	`yacoob`	`I'll paste it`
`17:42.10`	`yacoob`	`http://pastey.net/601 (ingenious, isn't it? :)`
`17:42.28`	`haste`	`FISKER_Q: it shouldn't tho', oSkin only hooks the function that displays the frame`
`17:42.30`	`yacoob`	`Azurewrath: I don't think Loz is convertable. To anything :D`
`17:42.40`	Industrial`	`oh lol`
`17:42.43`	`FISKER_Q`	`might be the greed thingy`
`17:42.44`	`Azurewrath`	`yacoob: you might be right :D`
`17:42.46`	Industrial`	`thats definately in`
`17:42.47`	Industrial`	`=P`
`17:42.54`	`FISKER_Q`	`can't remember if greed shows the "looting this item will bind it to you"`
`17:42.58`	`Mikma`	`i hate myself for deleting the code`
`17:43.09`	Industrial`	`the code > mikma`
`17:43.17`	`FISKER_Q`	`i hate lag on huhuran`
`17:43.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`err`
`17:43.19`	`Azurewrath`	`yacoob: have you ever actively read the discord Forums and his visions about DUB?`
`17:43.20`	`FISKER_Q`	`sartura`
`17:43.35`	`nev`	`lag on huhuran is as bad.`
`17:43.44`	`Gngsk`	`very bad.`
`17:43.50`	`yacoob`	`Azurewrath: not in depth, but I got bad impression of him.`
`17:43.51`	`Azurewrath`	`yacoob: don't know about his code.. but in other means.. hes a genius.. and totally insane :D`
`17:44.01`	`nev`	`what is DUB ?`
`17:44.16`	`Azurewrath`	`Discord UI Builder or something.. Loz is working on it`
`17:44.22`	`yacoob`	Industrial`: you mean, I overlooked and you did the same thing? :D
`17:44.36`	`yacoob`	`Another fine masterpiece! Behold!`
`17:44.38`	`Azurewrath`	`will be some type of framework into which his modules plug`
`17:44.42`	Industrial`	`yacoob, no more like yay its small and not hack-ish-like`
`17:44.48`	`nev`	`oh noes, more memory usage`
`17:44.52`	`yacoob`	Industrial`: it's just simple :D
`17:45.04`	`yacoob`	Industrial`: btw, are idchats going to be "released" on wowi?
`17:45.12`	`Azurewrath`	`should be less then duf+dab, it will use one option window for all mods if i got him right`
`17:45.14`	`nev`	`and the guys in my guild complain that the room before heigan lags that bad.`
`17:45.23`	Industrial`	`yacoob, no just the svn - but we have zips :D`
`17:45.46`	Industrial`	`maybe when I got all of these done ill open up my stuff on wowi again`
`17:45.48`	`yacoob`	Industrial`: I know, but I strongly believe in 'easy-to-swallow-for-dumb-users' releases on wowi :D
`17:46.03`	`yacoob`	`that's why DUF has so many custom layouts`
`17:46.06`	`yacoob`	`it's popular`
`17:46.07`	`Neronix`	`Wow, ZHunterMod seems lighter than I thought`
`17:46.25`	`yacoob`	`it's also crappy, but it's popular, and lots and lots of people experiment with it`
`17:46.36`	`CIA-11`	`03gngsk * r10088 10oSkin/AuctionFrame.lua: oSkin: Now correctly handles deselcting AH subcategories.`
`17:46.43`	`yacoob`	`nev: so, you have any idea what I can change from DAB to? :D`
`17:47.06`	`Neronix`	`yacoob: What features of DAB did you need?`
`17:47.08`	`Azurewrath`	`someone should convert DUF+DAB to Ace.. but i guess whoever tries that will commit suicide after an hour :D`
`17:47.25`	`nev`	`yacoob: with all the events you need, nothing out-of-the-box`
`17:47.43`	Industrial`	`Question: Is there a lua function that returns a string 'true' or 'false' for the argument it gets fed?`
`17:47.58`	`FISKER_Q`	`Gngsk dunno if you did it, but have you indented the subcategories so it's a bit easier to check out?`
`17:48.00`	`yacoob`	`Neronix: cast your eyes upwards :)`
`17:48.10`	`yacoob`	`19:38 < yacoob> free button placement, doing things on stance/shapeshift/avilability of action`
`17:48.19`	Industrial`	`To test if something is true or false for debugging..`
`17:48.23`	`yacoob`	`nev: that's the problem :/`
`17:48.41`	Industrial`	`yacoob, idActionBar`
`17:48.42`	Industrial`	`:P`
`17:48.46`	`Azurewrath`	Industrial`: uhm.. if blah = true { default_chatframe.. etc. }? ;p
`17:49.07`	`Gngsk`	`FISKER_Q, no`
`17:49.14`	`yacoob`	Industrial`: I do understand that I'd need [Goblin Mind Ripper] to create a coherent zip? :D
`17:49.26`	`nev`	`so with RegisterBucketEvent .. it seems to fail when i register the same event to two different functions .. anyone know something about that?`
`17:49.31`	`Neronix`	`yacoob: looked at bongos?`
`17:49.49`	Industrial`	`ye but cant I just print(evaluate(statement)) =P?`
`17:50.03`	Industrial`	`yacoob, err a coherent zip?`
`17:50.03`	`FISKER_Q`	`something you'll think about?`
`17:50.15`	`yacoob`	Industrial`: I mean, it's still in your head, or is it done? :)
`17:50.25`	`yacoob`	`Neronix: I think yes, and it failed somewhere... but I can do it once more :D`
`17:50.27`	`Gngsk`	`maybe, trying to keep it simple, and the more things like that I add the more hooks and complications arise`
`17:50.34`	`dreadlyone`	`anyone know what aceaddons use SpellStatus-1.0?`
`17:50.40`	Industrial`	`its done in a way that I can use it as my actionbar`
`17:51.00`	`FISKER_Q`	`anyone know a bit about KC_Items?`
`17:51.23`	Industrial`	`found it`
`17:51.25`	Industrial`	`assert()`
`17:51.57`	`yacoob`	`Neronix: if only it has switching basing on more than just stance, it looks ok`
`17:52.51`	`vhaarr`	`dreadlyone: yes`
`17:54.52`	`*** join/#wowace drekko (n=Miranda@c-d48072d5.03-24-73746f11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)`
`17:55.58`	`dreadlyone`	`vhaarr, yes?`
`17:56.21`	`vhaarr`	`dreadlyone: you asked, I answered.`
`17:56.40`	`dreadlyone`	`lol, ok, which addons u know about?`
`17:56.53`	`PX_Hakker`	`04(andreasg04): I hope you'll develop Pubcrawl a bit further soon... still some elements are missing and with some coding it could become a good bar raplcement for many discord users as you have hoped`
`17:57.03`	`Mikma`	`andreasg: ! dude!`
`17:57.22`	`Mikma`	`andreasg: got the .lua (tinypad) i gave you when you started on doing the maia's mockup?`
`17:57.27`	`vhaarr`	`dreadlyone: my own`
`17:57.41`	`vhaarr`	`dreadlyone: You obviously have a question regarding it, so just ask.`
`17:58.22`	`dreadlyone`	`no, its not a coding question in the least. i maintain my own libs folder, so i see the lib has been updated, just not sure if I have anything that needs it.`
`17:58.52`	`vhaarr`	`BigWigs_CommonAuras uses it.`
`17:58.54`	`dreadlyone`	`just trying to keep my libs complete and up to date.`
`17:58.58`	`vhaarr`	`So does IceHUD, I think.`
`17:59.26`	`dreadlyone`	`perfect, thank you sir`
`17:59.37`	`vhaarr`	`you're welcome`
`18:00.07`	`[NI]Machine`	`i wish the expansion was a year old so a guild of 30 people would be enough`
`18:00.49`	`CIA-11`	`03grimwald * r10089 10/branches/oRA2_Buff/ (6 files in 4 dirs):`
`18:00.49`	`CIA-11`	`oRA2_Buff:`
`18:00.49`	`CIA-11`	`* initial import - no GUI yet`
`18:00.49`	`CIA-11`	`* listens for RN messages and adds a table to rosterlib unit objects saving when a buff runs out.`
`18:00.49`	`CIA-11`	`* use unit["ora_bufftimers"][texture] to get the end time (if known) - use GetTime() - endtime to get remaining time...`
`18:01.30`	`*** join/#wowace Jarenthal (n=Bob@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)`
`18:02.55`	`*** join/#wowace Azix (n=Azix@host213-123-205-178.in-addr.btopenworld.com)`
`18:03.01`	`oxman`	`do you know a auto switch reputation (in exp bar) according to your zone ?`
`18:03.23`	`oxman`	`like auto switch for frostwolf in AQ40`
`18:03.30`	`oxman`	`like auto switch for frostwolf in bg`
`18:03.45`	`oxman`	`nozd for aq40/20 etc`
`18:04.58`	`haste`	`tekAutoRep`
`18:04.59`	`haste`	`err`
`18:05.01`	`haste`	`zone, okey`
`18:05.12`	`haste`	`just use tekAutoRep :p`
`18:05.21`	`oxman`	`what does it do ?`
`18:05.21`	`haste`	`it changes according to what rep you get`
`18:05.42`	`Kebinusan`	`rabbit, looks like I should be saying grats on the 4h`
`18:05.43`	`oxman`	`fine too, thanks :)`
`18:05.50`	`oxman`	`compatible with fr ?`
`18:06.09`	`haste`	`fr?`
`18:06.11`	`Kebinusan`	`I saw you started commiting some Sapphiron stuff`
`18:06.15`	`oxman`	`francais`
`18:06.25`	`haste`	`no idea`
`18:07.03`	`oxman`	`ok`
`18:14.11`	`yacoob`	`ckknight_: ping?`
`18:14.15`	`ckknight_`	`pong.`
`18:14.17`	`ckknight_`	`just woke up`
`18:14.29`	`yacoob`	`ckknight_: just installed new fubar, and it still pops up the old way`
`18:14.40`	`yacoob`	`(testing with aguf in top-left corner)`
`18:15.08`	`ckknight_`	`pops up?`
`18:15.12`	`ckknight_`	`oh`
`18:16.59`	`yacoob`	`if I can provide any more info, I'd be happy to`
`18:17.37`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r10090 10oCD/ (core.lua hooks.lua oCD.toc):`
`18:17.37`	`CIA-11`	`oCD:`
`18:17.38`	`CIA-11`	`- Changed the hooking slightly.`
`18:17.38`	`CIA-11`	`- Added DAB support.`
`18:19.23`	`CIA-11`	`03grimwald 07Grimwald * r10091 10oRA2_Buff/oRA2_Buff/ (. Optional/Buff.lua oRA2_Buff.toc):`
`18:19.23`	`CIA-11`	`oRA2_Buff:`
`18:19.23`	`CIA-11`	`* set svn properties`
`18:19.23`	`CIA-11`	`* bugfix for unknown buffs received (like "RN xxx 7 1" atm...)`
`18:19.28`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r10092 10oCD/ (core.lua hooks.lua):`
`18:19.28`	`CIA-11`	`oCD:`
`18:19.28`	`CIA-11`	`- Disabled debuging.`
`18:20.01`	`CIA-11`	`03pprovost * r10093 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_PoisonFu.toc):`
`18:20.01`	`CIA-11`	`FuBar_PoisonFu:`
`18:20.01`	`CIA-11`	`- Updated version number.`
`18:20.53`	`CIA-11`	`03iceroth * r10094 10IceHUD/ (4 files in 2 dirs): IceHUD: Bugfixes`
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`18:22.19`	`Mikma`	`right`
`18:22.26`	`Mikma`	`i can't remember how to do the layout :D`
`18:27.30`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire * r10095 10Clique/ (Clique.lua CliqueOptions.lua CliqueUtils.lua):`
`18:27.30`	`CIA-11`	`Clique:`
`18:27.30`	`CIA-11`	`* Resolved the Dispel Magic issues.. some major logic changes, but it cleaned up the logic.`
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`18:30.04`	`haste`	`PIECE OF SHIT DAB`
`18:30.09`	`haste`	`it fucking unbinded my key bindings`
`18:30.16`	`oxman`	`:p`
`18:30.18`	`Andalia_`	`^^`
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`18:31.41`	`haste`	`piece of shit`
`18:31.52`	`steino`	`burn dab burn!`
`18:31.59`	`haste`	`never fucking adding support for a discord mod again`
`18:32.06`	`snurre`	`maexxna down on first try today, 38 people in raid, 10ish firsttimers :p`
`18:32.24`	`Mikma`	`ok i liead`
`18:32.39`	`Mikma`	`dwadawd :) here we go again`
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`18:34.46`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: poke`
`18:34.58`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight_: how can I set the global debuglevel of Ace2?`
`18:35.31`	`vhaarr`	`SpellStatus is throwing out debug errors like crazy`
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`18:36.39`	`vhaarr`	`s/errors/messages/`
`18:38.03`	`Tem`	`Merentar-, you have it quite wrong`
`18:38.12`	`Tem`	`Merentar-, I've never said or believed that`
`18:39.47`	`Tem`	`Merentar-, I said that SWStats was evil because I watched it's memory during a raid last night`
`18:41.02`	`Mikma`	`hehe`
`18:41.08`	`Mikma`	`Bar1 done`
`18:41.25`	`Tem`	`even with parsing DISABLED, it used 40KiB every time RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE fired which, as it turns out, fires quite a few times over the course of a BWL raid. (Some 900 times in my case)`
`18:41.27`	`Mikma`	`now i need to realize how to make the empty frames hide when there's no button`
`18:41.41`	`ckknight_`	`vhaarr, I didn't write AceDebug, sorry`
`18:42.08`	`ckknight_`	`okay, I'm gonna go install a pressure regulator and play computer games with my brother`
`18:42.14`	`ckknight_`	`so I'll see you all later today`
`18:42.15`	`FISKER_Q`	`anyone seen massive memory consumption in raid fights_`
`18:42.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`?`
`18:42.28`	`FISKER_Q`	`i get like 300-800 kiB/s`
`18:42.35`	`Tem`	`FISKER_Q, I haven't seen anything that big`
`18:42.41`	`Tem`	`worst I've seen is 200`
`18:42.48`	`Tem`	`and that was during fankris trash`
`18:42.58`	`Tem`	`iirc, it was an old version of MSBT's fault`
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`18:45.04`	`Tem`	`Merentar-, I just want to say thing again in case you missed it.`
`18:45.28`	`Tem`	`Merentar-, I have not ever said that anything "not ace" was evil`
`18:45.37`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`18:45.38`	`Tem`	`Merentar-, ever`
`18:45.42`	`FISKER_Q`	`weird Tem :I`
`18:45.43`	`Tem`	`ever, ever, ever`
`18:45.46`	`ckknight`	`I mean, Buggrabber is good`
`18:45.51`	`ckknight`	`and Warmup is sorta good`
`18:45.55`	`Tem`	`ckknight, shush you`
`18:45.57`	`ckknight`	`and Teknicolor is also good...`
`18:46.08`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`18:46.20`	`Tem`	`Teknicolo doesn't use ace?`
`18:46.26`	`ckknight`	`not my version`
`18:46.32`	`Tem`	`wow. I wouldn't have had the patience to do the hooks manually`
`18:46.42`	`ckknight`	`it was just a for loop`
`18:46.51`	`ckknight`	`yea, but the moral of the story is: just because it doesn't use Ace doesn't mean it sucks`
`18:46.57`	`Tem`	`exactly`
`18:46.59`	`ckknight`	`and something that does use Ace can suck horribly.`
`18:47.05`	`Tem`	`very much so`
`18:47.13`	`Tem`	`For example, Itemrack is the shit`
`18:47.32`	`vhaarr`	`Bagnon, OmniCC and Bongos is also the shit.`
`18:47.33`	`ckknight`	`but statistically speaking, due to Ace's nature and mantra, Ace addons are typically better.`
`18:47.44`	`ckknight`	`not for everything, though.`
`18:47.58`	`Tem`	`(I still feel bad about knocking it off the chart with catatlyst way back)`
`18:48.09`	`ckknight`	`Catalyst was another good non-Ace mod.`
`18:48.21`	`Tem`	`catalyst was ace`
`18:48.24`	`Tem`	`until the final version`
`18:48.29`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`18:48.31`	`ckknight`	`I know`
`18:48.37`	`ckknight`	`it eventually wasn't ;-)`
`18:48.49`	`Tem`	`it was pretty stupid to use ace at all`
`18:49.23`	`snurre`	`lies`
`18:49.28`	`Tem`	`(but I guarantee you it would have taken longer to write if I hadn't used ace for it's first incarnation)`
`18:49.35`	`ckknight`	`oh, probably.`
`18:49.45`	`snurre`	`yeah, probably like... 30 mins`
`18:49.45`	`ckknight`	`snurre, what's a lie?`
`18:49.50`	`snurre`	`everything!`
`18:49.55`	`Mikma`	`i got owned by my "own" code`
`18:49.56`	`ckknight`	`hrm, true.`
`18:50.09`	`ckknight`	`Mikma, you earn a gold star.`
`18:50.22`	`Tem`	`Mikma, you don't know how many times I rewrote acegui because I owned my brain`
`18:51.13`	`ckknight`	`I rewrote FuBar a few times because it became a God Object and such.`
`18:51.21`	`ckknight`	`and too unwieldy to work with`
`18:51.22`	`Tem`	`yeah lol`
`18:51.30`	`Tem`	`oh good, people finally removed catalyst from favorites`
`18:51.39`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`18:51.40`	`Tem`	`so that Itemrack got back on the top favs list`
`18:51.51`	`ckknight`	`FuBar's on the top favorite's list ;-)`
`18:52.06`	`Tem`	`I see that :)`
`18:52.29`	`ckknight`	`and top rated ;-)`
`18:52.31`	`vhaarr`	`it wouldn't be if people read the code`
`18:52.36`	`vhaarr`	`lern2doc`
`18:52.37`	`ckknight`	`my goal is most downloaded`
`18:52.41`	`ckknight`	`but that'd be really hard`
`18:52.59`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, problem is, I used to document it, but then I took everything out that I had documented`
`18:53.09`	`ckknight`	`FuBarUtils became 3 libs and such.`
`18:53.10`	`vhaarr`	`hehe`
`18:53.14`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/mu.jpg`
`18:53.16`	`Mikma`	`yeah`
`18:53.16`	`ckknight`	`and FuBarPlugin split off`
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`18:56.03`	`Neronix`	`zomgwtfbbqsauce`
`18:56.10`	`Neronix`	`I got oCBHS working`
`18:56.15`	`Neronix`	`Hooks ftw`
`18:56.36`	`Tem`	`so, Mikma, can you link me to the mockup?`
`18:56.51`	`Mikma`	`certainly`
`18:57.26`	`Mikma`	`Tem: http://www.wowace.com/forums/Themes/7dana_smf/images/post/xx.gif`
`18:57.32`	`Mikma`	`oh crap`
`18:57.34`	`Mikma`	`sorry`
`18:57.38`	`Mikma`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1837.msg33967.html#msg33967`
`18:57.42`	`Tem`	`lol`
`18:57.52`	`Mikma`	`(did a copy image location instead of copy link location)`
`18:58.54`	`Tem`	`yeah`
`18:59.04`	`Tem`	`btw, how are yo trimming the edges?`
`18:59.10`	`Tem`	`I thought that was built into the icon`
`18:59.48`	`Mikma`	`Tem: http://ace.pastey.net/603`
`18:59.52`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix * r10096 10/branches/oCB_HunterShots/oCB_HunterShots.lua:`
`18:59.52`	`CIA-11`	`oCB: Hunter Shots`
`18:59.52`	`CIA-11`	`- Get this folks. Auto shot actually works! :O`
`18:59.52`	`CIA-11`	`- No more randomly forgetting to add a bar occasionally`
`18:59.52`	`CIA-11`	`- No more timer reset when casting something mid-cycle`
`18:59.52`	`CIA-11`	`- Now to clean this rube goldberg machine up...`
`19:00.48`	`Tem`	`Mikma, aaaaah... using SetTexCoord to crop it out`
`19:00.48`	`Tem`	`very nice`
`19:00.48`	`Mikma`	`well yeah`
`19:01.01`	`Mikma`	`it's commented out because i have the basic-feature in bartender2 already to make them borderless`
`19:01.24`	`Mikma`	`then i use the 2x setpoint to make it smaller so the frame behind it is visible`
`19:07.18`	`phyber`	`the text for LocationFu doesn't seem to be updating properly`
`19:07.33`	`Shyva`	`crap... my guild disbanded an hour ago :(`
`19:07.35`	`phyber`	`whenever there is a loading screen the text is always from the last place you were at.`
`19:07.36`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10097 10idChat2_Buttons/ (. idChat2_Buttons.lua idChat2_Buttons.toc): idChatButtons -> idChat2_Buttons`
`19:07.49`	`phyber`	`I just zoned into Naxx and it still says plaguewood`
`19:08.18`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10098 10idChat2_StickyChannels/ (. idChat2_StickyChannels.lua idChat2_StickyChannels.toc): makes all channels sticky, thanks yacoob!`
`19:08.20`	Industrial`	`:)`
`19:09.55`	`yacoob`	`wooo, I got a contribution! does the contribution dance :D`
`19:10.00`	Industrial`	`xD`
`19:11.38`	`FtH\|eagle`	`what's a sticky channel?`
`19:12.35`	`vhaarr`	`Sapphiron at 8% with BW mod ;)`
`19:13.04`	`yacoob`	`FtH\|eagle: you write something, press enter, and have the same channel back`
`19:13.07`	`Neronix`	`How many people have downed 4 horsemen now?`
`19:13.11`	`nev`	`Hm .. BigWigs BossBlock isnt working :/ I get half the messages in this aq20 pug`
`19:13.13`	`FtH\|eagle`	`aaah, very good, downloading`
`19:13.19`	`Shyva`	`which guild do you play in vhaarr? :o`
`19:13.50`	`vhaarr`	`Shyva: I'm not in the guild that does him now, I'm just helping them.`
`19:14.25`	`Shyva`	`Ah, cool :) I'd love to fight that guy :P`
`19:14.39`	`vhaarr`	`they gave me transcripts and combat logs to make the bossmod`
`19:17.23`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10099 10idChat2_DisableFade/ (. idChat2_DisableFade.lua idChat2_DisableFade.toc): idChatDisableFade -> idChat2_DisableFade`
`19:18.27`	`Neronix`	`What does he do?`
`19:18.34`	`Mikma`	`lol nice timing mikk`
`19:18.47`	`Mikma`	`i was just about to start to bitch at him because of wowwiki`
`19:19.08`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10100 10idChat2_Editbox/ (. idChat2_Editbox.lua idChat2_Editbox.toc): idChatEditbox -> idChat2_Editbox`
`19:20.10`	`haste`	`omg wowwiki is down? Clearly a time to join forces with zeeg on...`
`19:21.10`	`oxman`	`down since 4 or 5 hours`
`19:21.21`	`haste`	`I know :p`
`19:21.30`	`haste`	`but I'm going to sleep now!`
`19:21.36`	`haste`	`need more then the two hours I got today`
`19:21.37`	`haste`	`gn`
`19:21.44`	`Neronix`	`night`
`19:21.52`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10101 10idChat2_EditboxArrows/ (. idChat2_EditboxArrows.lua idChat2_EditboxArrows.toc): idChatEditboxArrows -> idChat2_EditboxArrows`
`19:21.54`	Industrial`	`nn`
`19:22.01`	Industrial`	`sorry for the spam, theres a bit more`
`19:22.02`	Industrial`	`:P`
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`19:24.38`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10102 10idChat2_Scroll/ (. idChat2_Scroll.lua idChat2_Scroll.toc): idChatScroll -> idChat2_Scroll`
`19:25.38`	`phyber`	`http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_090406_202312.jpg`
`19:25.43`	`phyber`	`^ naxx going very well ;)`
`19:25.53`	`andreasg`	`what is idChat2? :P`
`19:26.08`	Industrial`	`ace2 idchat`
`19:26.37`	Industrial`	`+1 module :P`
`19:26.52`	Industrial`	`sticky channels`
`19:27.53`	`Neronix`	`phyber: 101kb/s? You running RDX? ;P`
`19:28.26`	`vhaarr`	`Sapphiron down with BWs help :)`
`19:28.32`	`Health`	`hooray`
`19:28.49`	`Neronix`	`sweet`
`19:28.50`	`vhaarr`	`http://www.nihilum.co.uk/news/`
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`19:31.56`	Industrial`	`http://www.nihilum.co.uk/media/killshot2.jpg`
`19:31.58`	Industrial`	`scary shit`
`19:32.07`	`phyber`	`Neronix: nope, but sometimes things just spike :/`
`19:33.18`	`Mikma`	`sapphiron looks cute!`
`19:33.19`	`Gngsk`	`garr, geddon and chromaggus were nice to those guys`
`19:37.20`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10103 10idChat2_TellTarget/ (. idChat2_TellTarget.lua idChat2_TellTarget.toc): idChatTellTarget -> idChat2_TellTarget`
`19:39.15`	`FtH\|eagle`	Industrial`: are you going to give an option to color the timestamps and enter an own format?
`19:39.38`	Industrial`	`yes`
`19:39.49`	Industrial`	`thats one of the reasons why im converting them all`
`19:40.05`	Industrial`	`you get all your slash commands and options and shit ;P`
`19:40.52`	`vhaarr`	`with idChat2?`
`19:40.58`	`vhaarr`	`BLOAT, I say!`
`19:41.04`	`FtH\|eagle`	`perfect :)`
`19:41.34`	`vhaarr`	`I like it how it is now, just a suite of regexps and stuff.`
`19:43.29`	Industrial`	`you can still only pick the ones you want`
`19:43.35`	Industrial`	`they will just have a few options :>`
`19:43.47`	Industrial`	`you are free to cut them out`
`19:44.34`	`yacoob`	`what's left? channel names and playernames?`
`19:44.39`	Industrial`	`yes`
`19:44.41`	`yacoob`	`and telltarget`
`19:44.54`	Industrial`	`no just did that`
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`19:45.03`	`yacoob`	`damn, you quickie!`
`19:45.35`	`yacoob`	`with channels, it would be good to have the replacement configurable`
`19:45.38`	Industrial`	`well its all untested`
`19:45.40`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10104 10idChat2_PlayerNames/ (. idChat2_PlayerNames.lua idChat2_PlayerNames.toc): idChatPlayernames -> idChat2_PlayerNames (note the N :P)`
`19:45.46`	Industrial`	`shit may hit fans`
`19:46.12`	`FtH\|eagle`	`it works so far for me`
`19:46.26`	Industrial`	`good`
`19:47.18`	`FtH\|eagle`	`I always see addons which are coloring names by their class, only cleanchat has an option which I don't want to miss. generate a color per name`
`19:48.56`	Industrial`	`when I get the last one done ill open a thread so you guys can start whining for shit :P`
`19:49.10`	`FtH\|eagle`	`don't need a thread for whining`
`19:49.16`	`FtH\|eagle`	`can do that here ;)`
`19:49.18`	`yacoob`	`"whining for shit".`
`19:49.20`	Industrial`	`:>`
`19:49.25`	`yacoob`	`My brain just hiccuped on that one.`
`19:49.58`	Industrial`	`shit being assorted units of whatever the current topic may be`
`19:50.01`	Industrial`	`:E`
`19:50.20`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10105 10idChat2_ChannelNames/ (. idChat2_ChannelNames.lua idChat2_ChannelNames.toc): idChatChannelNames -> idChat2_ChannelNames`
`19:50.21`	Industrial`	`poof!`
`19:51.17`	`yacoob`	`hm, unconfigurable :P`
`19:51.31`	`Mikma`	`m`
`19:51.43`	`Mikma`	`i feel owned :(`
`19:51.47`	`yacoob`	`(I edited the previous one to have '[G]' instead of 'g' and so on)`
`19:52.42`	`FtH\|eagle`	`localize the channel names, want to use that :P`
`19:52.42`	`Mikma`	`cannot RegisterEvent("ACTIONBAR_SLOT_CHANGED")`
`19:53.09`	Industrial`	`yacoob, yeah thats material for the thread im about to make cause then I wont forget :>`
`19:53.21`	Industrial`	`I can add all those options, easy.`
`19:53.27`	`Mikma`	`how in the hell can i now check when actionbar changes :(`
`19:53.34`	`yacoob`	`whines for shit then`
`19:53.53`	Industrial`	`Mikma, sec`
`19:54.10`	`yacoob`	`I demand such option! waves banner`
`19:54.15`	Industrial`	`self:Hook('ActionButton_HideGrid', 'HideGrid')`
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`19:54.52`	`tazmanyak`	`hello all`
`19:54.54`	`Mikma`	Industrial`: mm, good call
`19:55.26`	`Tem`	`Tekkub, you around?`
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`19:59.32`	Industrial`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2104`
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`20:02.37`	`Tem`	`ok seriously, wtf`
`20:02.43`	`Tem`	`why is AceOO still broken`
`20:02.51`	`Tem`	`ckk told me he fixed this bug like 3 weeks ago`
`20:03.53`	`yacoob`	`wooo, borkage, Industrial! :D`
`20:06.33`	`Industrial`	`:P`
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`20:08.07`	`Neronix`	`Industrial: why do you do "foo = foo or ''" in timestamps?`
`20:08.29`	`Industrial`	`in case some shit addon breaks it`
`20:08.35`	`Industrial`	`had it like 2 times`
`20:08.42`	`Industrial`	`and it were unitframe addons =P`
`20:08.50`	`Industrial`	`sending empty messages and what not`
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`20:09.25`	`yacoob`	`hehe`
`20:09.44`	`yacoob`	`http://pastey.net/604`
`20:09.49`	`Neronix`	`I'm sure you can pass nil for red, green, blue and id just fine`
`20:09.51`	`yacoob`	`very familiar, who broke it? :E`
`20:12.29`	`eternally777`	`can functions be saved as table entries in an acedb profile?`
`20:12.46`	`yacoob`	`it's new fubar, I'm afraid :/`
`20:14.16`	`CIA-11`	`03ven * r10106 10vChat/ (Core.lua locals.lua): vChat: added timestamp formatting options`
`20:14.18`	`Neronix`	`eternally777: functions can't be serialised, so no`
`20:14.31`	`Neronix`	`what's this vChat all about?`
`20:14.52`	`gnorlish`	`~emulate neronix`
`20:14.53`	`purl`	`ACTION adds more debug strings`
`20:15.37`	`Tuplad`	`Neronix: it's like idChat`
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`20:17.52`	`phyber`	`Neronix: actually, that 100KB/s happens for 1 second when there is a RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE`
`20:18.33`	`Health`	`And you got it on picture!`
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`20:20.14`	`phyber`	`I assume it's RosterLib doing stuff.`
`20:20.47`	`Industrial`	`http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9159/p9010096ex4.jpg`
`20:20.48`	`Industrial`	`eep`
`20:20.51`	`Industrial`	`=>`
`20:21.14`	`Industrial`	`I got nice tan now tho but it will wear off soon :<`
`20:21.59`	`Neronix`	`You're playing sudoku?`
`20:22.22`	`yacoob`	`this is noooot funny...`
`20:22.24`	`MoonWolf`	`http://www.wcradio.com/admin/images/moonwolf@bbq.PNG <- me`
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`20:22.56`	`yacoob`	`Industrial: heeeey, what was that place?`
`20:23.04`	`yacoob`	`Netherlands?`
`20:23.11`	`Health`	`nerds!`
`20:23.22`	`Health`	`I'm a nerd too! :D`
`20:23.30`	`Industrial`	`no, kemer turkey`
`20:23.34`	`yacoob`	`hm.`
`20:24.06`	`Industrial`	`lots of dutch people go there so theres a whole resort - orange county - next to the resort I went to that has the exterior of things from amsterdam`
`20:24.11`	`Industrial`	`pretty weird`
`20:24.26`	`Industrial`	`and the godawful dutch music every day :(`
`20:24.33`	`Industrial`	`but still funny :)`
`20:25.51`	`yacoob`	`doh. I'm getting this http://pastey.net/604 for no apparent reason...`
`20:26.38`	`yacoob`	`the only place I have glorylib is battlegroundfu and honorfu. Neither was updated...`
`20:26.56`	`yacoob`	`ah, idchat!`
`20:27.00`	`yacoob`	`INDUSTRIAL!`
`20:27.12`	`Industrial`	`wot`
`20:27.14`	`Industrial`	`im busy`
`20:27.23`	`yacoob`	`Industrial: http://pastey.net/604`
`20:27.33`	`Industrial`	`with idchat :>`
`20:27.33`	`tumetom`	`HELP :-P My bigwigs bars are transparent :-P`
`20:27.35`	`yacoob`	`your AceEvent brought doom, death and despair :D`
`20:27.46`	`tumetom`	`is this aknown problem?`
`20:28.28`	`yacoob`	`I surely had this one before few days ago`
`20:28.55`	`tumetom`	`probably a lib prob`
`20:28.56`	`yacoob`	`drops 'early adopter' stance and goes back to idchat1 stuff`
`20:30.57`	`Tekkub`	`remove !!!Libraries if you have transparenct bars, I think that was the fix`
`20:31.04`	`oxman`	`do you know an addon to list all player without the buff x ?`
`20:31.10`	`Industrial`	`yacoob, bah whatever you want :>`
`20:31.12`	`CIA-11`	`03kemayo * r10107 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu: Fix typo'd variable name resulting in arithmetic with nil error.`
`20:32.24`	`Tekkub`	`can someone please confirm that !!!Libraries is the cause of clear Candybars please? :)`
`20:32.44`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix * r10108 10/branches/oCB_HunterShots/oCB_HunterShots.lua:`
`20:32.44`	`CIA-11`	`oCB: Hunter Shots`
`20:32.44`	`CIA-11`	`- Mess has been destroyed with extreme prejudice`
`20:32.44`	`CIA-11`	`- Spell fails are now handled properly`
`20:32.45`	`CIA-11`	`- Now I need someone to test Aimed Shot`
`20:33.34`	`oxman`	`do you know an addon to list all player without the buff x ?`
`20:33.43`	`yacoob`	`and suddenly, fubar started to pop up correctly, ckknight. In-te-re-sting.`
`20:33.49`	`nev`	`oxman: Xraidstatus`
`20:33.57`	`yacoob`	`Quantum addon usage, I see.`
`20:34.16`	`oxman`	`ok thanks`
`20:34.18`	`Tekkub`	`ox, corkfu`
`20:34.39`	`oxman`	`thanks too`
`20:34.51`	`FtH\|eagle`	`put a cork in it!`
`20:35.06`	`oxman`	`is it standalone ?`
`20:35.30`	`Tekkub`	`it might be...`
`20:35.33`	`Tekkub`	`I don't remember`
`20:35.42`	`Gngsk`	`I think it does`
`20:35.51`	`oxman`	`ok`
`20:35.53`	`Gngsk`	`work w/o fubar and stuff, at least it did before 2.0`
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`20:36.20`	`CIA-11`	`03sano * r10109 10FuBar_AceWardrobeFu/FuBar_AceWardrobeFu.toc: FuBar_AceWardrobeFu: Updated toc`
`20:38.04`	`tumetom`	`Tekkub removing Libraries is not really a good idea :-P`
`20:38.27`	`Tekkub`	`I don't think that !!!Libraries thing is a good idea in the first place`
`20:38.37`	`Tekkub`	`I don't want my libraries in it, to be frank`
`20:38.54`	`Tekkub`	`stop being lazy assholes and use the correct libraries...`
`20:39.29`	`Tem`	`well, since I'm probably running one of each of those libs anyway....`
`20:39.35`	`Tem`	`it makes it easier for me`
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`20:39.46`	`Tem`	`I can svn update * --ignore-externals`
`20:39.56`	`Tem`	`and then do svn update !!!Libraries`
`20:39.57`	`Tekkub`	`yes but people have to keep poking it for the zips to be up to date`
`20:40.03`	`Saroz`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15401595&pageNo=1&sid=1#13`
`20:40.07`	`Saroz`	`go go Expansion`
`20:40.10`	`Tem`	`Tekkub, oh lolz`
`20:40.11`	`Tekkub`	`tem, you can check out each library and do that too...`
`20:40.16`	`Tem`	`yeah, I could`
`20:40.20`	`Tem`	`far too lazy`
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`20:40.29`	`Tekkub`	`but yes, I'm talking about the zips not the svn checkouts`
`20:40.36`	`Tekkub`	`checkout you'd get up to date, yes`
`20:41.18`	`nev`	`BigWigs BossBlock doesnt seem to work with oRA2 RaidWarnings :(`
`20:41.20`	`Mikma`	`HOLY mother!`
`20:41.25`	`Mikma`	`GO SLOUKEN!`
`20:41.50`	`Tem`	`10 bucks says they didn't create new api for those`
`20:42.00`	`Saroz`	`hehe`
`20:42.01`	`Tem`	`they just used the same hack methods we've been using for a year`
`20:42.13`	`Tem`	`kergoth, ping`
`20:42.51`	`krka`	`lol: Will BC do compiling of LUA code instead of interpreting it?`
`20:43.00`	`oxman`	`no`
`20:43.03`	`krka`	`(from that thread)`
`20:43.11`	`oxman`	`lol ok ;p`
`20:43.13`	`Tem`	`lolindeed`
`20:43.22`	`Tem`	`"how sure are you?"`
`20:43.25`	`Tem`	`quite sure, damnit`
`20:43.38`	`krka`	`the answer is of course, it already does compile`
`20:43.43`	`krka`	`to lua bytecode atleast`
`20:43.44`	`oxman`	`LUA will convert LUA code in ASM to improove the speed`
`20:43.45`	`oxman`	`;D`
`20:48.06`	`Tekkub`	`what did slouken do?`
`20:48.19`	`Tekkub`	`and nev, last I heard oRA2 doesn't have bossblock yet`
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`20:48.35`	`krka`	`binding keys to spells directly`
`20:48.35`	`ven`	`bw has but ora2 bypasses it somehow :p`
`20:48.42`	`krka`	`not really that exciting, if you ask me`
`20:48.47`	`tumetom`	`hm.. just updatet !!!Libraries.... same problem`
`20:49.02`	`Tekkub`	`keybinds... meh`
`20:49.29`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10110 10idChat2_Buttons/ (idChat2_Buttons.lua idChat2_Buttons.toc): idChat2_Buttons: bugfixes and documentation`
`20:49.30`	`Tekkub`	`tume, I'm sorry, but I won't support !!!Libraries`
`20:49.40`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10111 10idChat2_ChannelNames/ (idChat2_ChannelNames.lua idChat2_ChannelNames.toc): idChat2_ChannelNames: bugfixes and documentation`
`20:49.47`	`Tekkub`	`remove it and install proper standalones or the embed, or don't come crying to me`
`20:49.49`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10112 10idChat2_DisableFade/ (idChat2_DisableFade.lua idChat2_DisableFade.toc): idChat2_DisableFade: bugfixes and documentation`
`20:50.06`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10113 10idChat2_Editbox/ (idChat2_Editbox.lua idChat2_Editbox.toc): idChat2_Editbox: bugfixes and documentation`
`20:50.16`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10114 10idChat2_EditboxArrows/ (idChat2_EditboxArrows.lua idChat2_EditboxArrows.toc): idChat2_EditboxArrows: bugfixes and documentation`
`20:50.26`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10115 10idChat2_PlayerNames/ (idChat2_PlayerNames.lua idChat2_PlayerNames.toc): idChat2_PlayerNames: bugfixes and documentation`
`20:50.31`	`tumetom`	`.-.`
`20:50.37`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10116 10idChat2_Scroll/ (idChat2_Scroll.lua idChat2_Scroll.toc): idChat2_Scroll: bugfixes and documentation`
`20:50.45`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10117 10idChat2_StickyChannels/ (idChat2_StickyChannels.lua idChat2_StickyChannels.toc): idChat2_StickyChannels: bugfixes and documentation`
`20:50.56`	`nev`	`argh! Industrial spams.`
`20:50.57`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10118 10idChat2_TellTarget/ (idChat2_TellTarget.lua idChat2_TellTarget.toc): idChat2_TellTarget: bugfixes and documentation`
`20:51.06`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10119 10idChat2_Timestamps/ (idChat2_Timestamps.lua idChat2_Timestamps.toc): idChat2_Timestamps: bugfixes and documentation`
`20:51.11`	`tumetom`	`the timerbars are candbars ?`
`20:51.11`	`Industrial`	`tee hee`
`20:52.05`	`yacoob`	`Industrial: massive.`
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`20:55.34`	`Industrial`	`oh crap now I forgot something`
`20:55.39`	`Industrial`	`:(`
`20:56.05`	`dreadlyone`	`just remove candybars from !!!libraries. everything else can stay. problem solved.`
`20:57.32`	`Industrial`	`holy crap o_X`
`20:58.21`	`Mikma`	`mm i think i will make a timer to check the background every 0.1 seconds`
`20:58.28`	`Mikma`	`that way it will always work ^^`
`20:58.58`	`Tem`	`~botmail for ckknight http://ace.pastey.net/609-2qwf`
`20:59.29`	`vhaarr`	`~botsnack`
`20:59.29`	`purl`	`aw, gee, vhaarr`
`21:00.41`	`Neronix`	`~botwhip`
`21:00.49`	`Mikma`	`yay! i have got my first smite`
`21:00.52`	`Industrial`	`im gunna hafta spam again :<`
`21:01.20`	`Mikma`	`propably because i didn't wan't to make the fucking bordercolor-shit :D`
`21:01.24`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10120 10idChat2_Buttons/idChat2_Buttons.lua: Now sets the DB values correctly, and everything is on my default.`
`21:01.26`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10121 10idChat2_ChannelNames/idChat2_ChannelNames.lua: Now sets the DB values correctly, and everything is on my default.`
`21:01.30`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10122 10idChat2_DisableFade/idChat2_DisableFade.lua: Now sets the DB values correctly, and everything is on my default.`
`21:01.34`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10123 10idChat2_Editbox/idChat2_Editbox.lua: Now sets the DB values correctly, and everything is on my default.`
`21:01.38`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10124 10idChat2_EditboxArrows/idChat2_EditboxArrows.lua: Now sets the DB values correctly, and everything is on my default.`
`21:01.47`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10125 10idChat2_PlayerNames/idChat2_PlayerNames.lua: Now sets the DB values correctly, and everything is on my default.`
`21:01.55`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10126 10idChat2_Scroll/idChat2_Scroll.lua: Now sets the DB values correctly, and everything is on my default.`
`21:02.01`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10127 10idChat2_StickyChannels/idChat2_StickyChannels.lua: Now sets the DB values correctly, and everything is on my default.`
`21:02.05`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10128 10idChat2_TellTarget/idChat2_TellTarget.lua: Now sets the DB values correctly, and everything is on my default.`
`21:02.09`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10129 10idChat2_Timestamps/idChat2_Timestamps.lua: Now sets the DB values correctly, and everything is on my default.`
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`21:02.13`	`Industrial`	`there`
`21:02.14`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`21:02.15`	`Gngsk`	`your default or by default?`
`21:02.22`	`Industrial`	`damit >_<`
`21:02.25`	`Gngsk`	`owned!`
`21:02.29`	`Industrial`	`:(`
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`21:04.25`	`Mikma`	`seems like someone has an habbit of smiting persons around in forums :)`
`21:05.24`	`Industrial`	`I didnt do it!`
`21:05.54`	`Industrial`	`anyway, Im having problems with unhooking ChatFrame1:AddMessage()`
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`21:06.40`	`Industrial`	`When IM enabling and disableing mods that hook that function i get "AddMessage" already has an active hook from this source`
`21:06.56`	`Industrial`	`function idChat2_ChannelNames:OnDisable()`
`21:06.56`	`Industrial`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:06.57`	`Industrial`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:06.57`	`Industrial`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:06.57`	`Industrial`	`end`
`21:07.03`	`Industrial`	`but im just doing that...`
`21:07.09`	`Nightdew`	`how do i move a directory in the SVN`
`21:07.16`	`Industrial`	`and unhooking does seem to work...`
`21:07.36`	`Nightdew`	`say from trunk\SpellCache-1.0 to trunk\SpellCacheLib\SpellCache-1.0`
`21:07.38`	`Nightdew`	`?`
`21:07.55`	`Industrial`	`meh nuff code for one day - planetside time!`
`21:08.20`	`Theondry`	`it's in the help docs, Nightdew. "svn --help`
`21:08.22`	`Theondry`	`"`
`21:08.22`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r10130 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc:`
`21:08.22`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs`
`21:08.22`	`CIA-11`	`- TOC Updates`
`21:09.27`	`Theondry`	`more specifically "svn move --help"`
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`21:12.10`	`CIA-11`	`03nightdew * r10131 10SpellCacheLib/: Created folder remotely`
`21:14.00`	`Theondry`	`Is it possible to do reverse lookup on table values? i.e., table = {a = "b}, then find the index a, if I know "b".`
`21:14.59`	`kritzi`	`hi there`
`21:15.53`	`kritzi`	`is there a ace libary which helps me to check tables for existing fields. like: foo = { {},{ "moo"} } and if foo[1][2][3]`
`21:16.09`	`andreasg`	`for k,v in pairs(table) do if v == b then return a end`
`21:17.23`	`FtH\|eagle`	`andreasg: did you get my query?`
`21:17.23`	`Mikma`	`YAY`
`21:17.28`	`Mikma`	`my first timer and works`
`21:17.33`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r10132 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc:`
`21:17.33`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs`
`21:17.33`	`CIA-11`	`- More TOC updates`
`21:17.36`	`andreasg`	`FtH\|eagle: yes and I replied`
`21:17.57`	`FtH\|eagle`	`really? didn't get a message :/`
`21:17.57`	`CIA-11`	`03nightdew * r10133 10/trunk/ (SpellCache-1.0/ SpellCacheLib/SpellCache-1.0/): Moved remotely`
`21:18.09`	`andreasg`	`FtH\|eagle: I probably can't send PMs then`
`21:18.32`	`FtH\|eagle`	`ok, did you read the thread in the ace forum with rdx?`
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`21:19.01`	`CIA-11`	`03nightdew * r10134 10SpellStatusLib/: Created folder remotely`
`21:19.18`	`CIA-11`	`03nightdew * r10135 10/trunk/ (SpellStatus-1.0/ SpellStatusLib/SpellStatus-1.0/): Moved remotely`
`21:19.33`	`CIA-11`	`03mikk * r10136 10Barf/ (. Barf.lua Barf.toc):`
`21:19.33`	`CIA-11`	`Barf:`
`21:19.33`	`CIA-11`	`Testing utility that generates controllable amounts of chat bandwidth. Used to ascertain sustainable client->server bandwidth.`
`21:20.04`	`CIA-11`	`03nightdew * r10137 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Moved remotely`
`21:20.23`	`vhaarr`	`Nightdew: did you accidentally enable debugging in your last SpellStatus commit?`
`21:20.33`	`Nightdew`	`i hope not lol`
`21:20.46`	`vhaarr`	`one of my tanks gets spammed by SpellStatus debug`
`21:20.51`	`Nightdew`	`ill go check`
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`21:22.08`	`Nightdew`	`what are you using it in?`
`21:22.11`	`Nightdew`	`if i may ask`
`21:22.53`	`Theondry`	`andreasg: Thanks very much.`
`21:23.41`	`andreasg`	`Theondry: anyway, it is probably more resource demanding than just a normal table lookup`
`21:24.02`	`andreasg`	`also take notice that you can get several results as two keys can have the same value`
`21:24.06`	`Azurewrath`	`mhm... Blizzards Idea of Open PVP is nice... it's a free buff for Alliance because of the great 4:1 on most servers.. bah`
`21:24.19`	`andreasg`	`FtH\|eagle: rdx?`
`21:24.29`	`FtH\|eagle`	`topic is rdx`
`21:24.36`	`Nightdew`	`vhaarr`
`21:24.46`	`Neronix`	`Any hunters around?`
`21:24.48`	`Nightdew`	`vhaarr: its not turned on as far as i can see`
`21:24.49`	`sbu`	`hmm, is there a addon that displays mana regged per tick?`
`21:24.56`	`FtH\|eagle`	`maybe you want to take a look at it and read my post`
`21:25.08`	`FtH\|eagle`	`only want to know if you're interested in some way or say no thanks`
`21:25.16`	`Nightdew`	`vhaarr: except for one place with a possible problem and it turns it on and off`
`21:25.41`	`sbu`	`not 'regged in last fight' (whats shown from regenfu) :/`
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`21:29.10`	`yacoob`	`hm...`
`21:29.19`	`yacoob`	`wasn't there macrofu plugin for fubar?`
`21:29.49`	`yacoob`	`ah, there's one.`
`21:30.33`	`Mikma`	`mmkay`
`21:30.43`	`Mikma`	`anyone wan't to give a beta-test of the mockup?`
`21:30.57`	`Mikma`	`atm it's not configurable in any ways :)`
`21:31.02`	`Mikma`	`it's just on etc`
`21:31.17`	`nev`	`you posted that on the forums?`
`21:31.21`	`Theondry`	`andreasg: meaning I should just set up a second table that's the mirror of the first one?`
`21:31.40`	`Mikma`	`nev: nope this is a .lua in my mac`
`21:32.20`	`andreasg`	`Theondry: I don't know what's the best way to do it :)`
`21:32.31`	`nev`	`well, if you post it somewhere, i would test it :)`
`21:32.53`	`Theondry`	`Fair enough. Since the lookup table is static, maybe I'll just embed it's mirror in it, and not worry about it.`
`21:33.29`	`Theondry`	`Would have less than 100 entries in it, anyway.)`
`21:36.06`	`FtH\|eagle`	`andreasg: you see my post?`
`21:36.49`	`andreasg`	`dunno, try out either way or whatever`
`21:37.05`	`andreasg`	`FtH\|eagle: no, I don't know where`
`21:37.16`	`FtH\|eagle`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2097.0.html`
`21:37.22`	`FtH\|eagle`	`talking about this one`
`21:37.58`	`FtH\|eagle`	`and my suggestion some posts later`
`21:39.36`	`CIA-11`	`03mikma * r10138 10Bartender2_Dreamlayout/: Bartender2 Dreamlayout: Creating trunk`
`21:40.16`	`nev`	`dreamlayout :D`
`21:40.58`	`snurre`	`o.O`
`21:41.00`	`snurre`	`screen?`
`21:42.05`	`CIA-11`	`03mikma * r10139 10Bartender2_Dreamlayout/ (Bartender2_Dreamlayout.toc Mockup.lua): Bartender2 Dreamlayout: Incomiiiing`
`21:42.23`	`kopple`	`pubcrawl-style? :)`
`21:42.32`	`kopple`	`pubcrawler, even`
`21:42.55`	`Mikma`	`hehe i would like to say YES to that but no, it's maia's mockup done for Bartender2`
`21:43.41`	`andreasg`	`FtH\|eagle: I don't know what your forum nick is`
`21:43.49`	`FtH\|eagle`	`oh, moonsorrow :)`
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`21:44.20`	`grzesieq`	`pix please`
`21:44.30`	`kopple`	`well, isn't that sort of what pubcrawl looks like then Mikma? :p`
`21:45.29`	`kopple`	`http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1120/perfectbarbd8.jpg vs http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1856.0;id=446;image`
`21:45.39`	`Mikma`	`kopple: yes, because I gave the original code to ag for him to use it in pubcrawl`
`21:46.32`	`phyber`	`is there a list of Naxx timers somewhere?`
`21:46.50`	`phyber`	`or does someone know the respawn time on the room of 20,000 slimes in abomination :p`
`21:47.41`	`kopple`	`ah, I see`
`21:47.47`	`Mikma`	`so`
`21:48.17`	`Mikma`	`if anyone can test that commit before i pass out and tell me your impressioons about it`
`21:49.05`	`Mikma`	`http://svn.wowace.com/files/Bartender2_Dreamlayout-r10139.zip`
`21:50.13`	`Gngsk`	`sec`
`21:50.17`	`CIA-11`	`03mikma * r10140 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: Some changes for Dreamlayout`
`21:50.40`	`Gngsk`	`omg, now I have to update again!`
`21:50.46`	`Mikma`	`and also grab that latest BBerte der tooo`
`21:50.49`	`Mikk`	`Interesting`
`21:50.54`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 07otravi * r10141 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/ (otravi_UnitFrames.lua textures/BantoBar.tga): oUF2 - Added BantoBar texture`
`21:50.55`	`Mikk`	`I just chat spammed myself out of the game`
`21:50.58`	`Mikk`	`But not from a disconnect`
`21:51.03`	`Mikk`	`I was having Cosmos loaded`
`21:51.08`	`Mikk`	`And went over 48MB RAM`
`21:51.19`	`Mikk`	`Vanilla Cosmos`
`21:51.24`	`Mikk`	`Just spewing chat spam`
`21:51.28`	`Mikma`	`the basic BT2 has some aliases for functions`
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`21:54.48`	`Gngsk`	`Mikma, what do I do with the dream layout?`
`21:55.02`	`yacoob`	`Right...`
`21:55.04`	`Kyahx`	`you scoff at it!`
`21:55.06`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`21:55.36`	`Gngsk`	`erm`
`21:55.36`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`21:55.46`	`Kyahx`	`College is distracting >.>`
`21:55.53`	`Kyahx`	`I haven't sat down at my PC untill just now`
`21:55.56`	`Gngsk`	`if you hide the bars via BarX:Hide() the background textures don't hide :P`
`21:55.57`	`Kyahx`	`all day`
`21:56.01`	`Gngsk`	`blasphemy`
`21:56.05`	`Mikma`	`you load it with BT2 and be gappy`
`21:56.13`	`Mikma`	`s/gappy/happy/`
`21:56.31`	`Mikma`	`http://wow.reaktio.net/mu.jpg`
`21:56.50`	`Kyahx`	`ouu, pretty buttons`
`21:56.53`	`Kyahx`	`nice work Mikma`
`21:57.06`	`Mikma`	`that picture has only 1 bar, but the commit has all actionbars`
`21:57.49`	`FtH\|eagle`	`andreasg: maybe you want to write something in the thread or send me a pm if you're interested, going to bed now`
`21:58.00`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx\|afk: i got a problem with pagemastewr`
`21:58.11`	`andreasg`	`FtH\|eagle: I can help out sure`
`21:58.12`	`Kyahx`	`hmm?`
`21:58.14`	`phyber`	`anyone know what Living Monstrositys do?`
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`21:58.18`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: poke`
`21:58.24`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx\|afk: shift+click on button? takes it out of bar`
`21:58.30`	`phyber`	`wowwiki is down :/`
`21:58.38`	`Kyahx`	`Thats part of the default action buttons =/`
`21:58.46`	`Kyahx`	`I haven't gotten around to fixing it myself either`
`21:58.54`	`Tekkub`	`what?`
`21:59.01`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: SEEmbedAura-2.0`
`21:59.03`	`Mikma`	`yeah i think i have to have a look too`
`21:59.05`	`Kyahx`	`luckily the shift page is my buffs, so It hasn't been time cruical to fix it :P`
`21:59.08`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffGained`
`21:59.14`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: \|texture\| is nil?`
`21:59.20`	`vhaarr`	`SpecialEvents_UnitDebuffGained(unitid, debuffName, applications, debuffType, texture)`
`21:59.21`	`Tekkub`	`shrug`
`21:59.40`	`vhaarr`	`gee thanks`
`21:59.41`	`Tekkub`	`flyspray it, I'm busy`
`21:59.47`	`Mikma`	`ok now i'm off to bed`
`21:59.49`	`Gngsk`	`Mikma, http://www.titansofazeroth.com/mods/screens/bt2_oops.jpg`
`21:59.52`	`Mikma`	`see ya in 7h+`
`22:00.01`	`Gngsk`	`look b4 you go!`
`22:00.23`	`Kyahx`	`On my entire floor, only 3 rooms have guys in them, the rest of my floor is all girls :P`
`22:00.25`	`FtH\|eagle`	`andreasg: it's not about helping out, I'm talking about seperating the work so we can get the best out of it`
`22:00.26`	`Mikma`	`yea`
`22:00.31`	`Kyahx`	`I sense much afk from now on`
`22:00.35`	`Kyahx`	`bye bye :)`
`22:00.42`	`Mikma`	`ehave you updated your bt2?`
`22:00.49`	`Gngsk`	`yah`
`22:00.50`	`Mikma`	`needs to be the latest`
`22:01.12`	`FtH\|eagle`	`anyway, sleeping now, good night`
`22:01.13`	`andreasg`	`FtH\|eagle: I'm just thinking if it is viable at all to make something as dynamic as that`
`22:01.16`	`Gngsk`	`I just installed over the last revision I had though, do I need to like, kill the whole folder first?`
`22:01.22`	`Gngsk`	`bah, w/e go to bed :P`
`22:01.23`	`FtH\|eagle`	`I think it is`
`22:02.02`	`CIA-11`	`03jncl * r10142 10oSkin/AuctionFrame.lua: oSkin: changed AuctionFrame.lua so that all the tab buttons appear over the frame they relate to instead of just the Browse button`
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`22:03.40`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`hey all`
`22:04.04`	`[FH]Birdemani`	`just wondering if there is a new commit of bigwigs going out on /files? We are trying to update a few people before the raid`
`22:04.39`	`Mikma`	`Gngsk: sems liek yhose bars that are black need to be activared`
`22:06.34`	`yacoob`	`hm.`
`22:06.44`	`yacoob`	`what event should I hook to catch end of a cooldown of specific action?`
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`22:07.09`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: Could the problem be if you have two debuffs with the same name but different texture?`
`22:07.34`	`Tekkub`	`why would they have the same name and diff textures?`
`22:07.49`	`Mikma`	`gm and have fun bugtesting`
`22:07.51`	`Mikma`	`7aw`
`22:08.25`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: Loatheb does that.`
`22:08.38`	`Tekkub`	`dunno then`
`22:08.39`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: "Corrupted Mind" and two different textures (2 debuffs).`
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`22:12.57`	`bindi`	`hmm anyone has an alternative for cleanbaradvanced?`
`22:15.12`	`Neronix`	`what's the realmserver address for the us servers?`
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`22:16.19`	`sbu`	`mhhh`
`22:16.36`	`sbu`	`any1 planning to ace2 KeepItCool? :/`
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`22:19.19`	`yacoob`	`Hey, f1 :/`
`22:19.33`	`yacoob`	`is there a way to catch a cooldown of specific action?`
`22:19.37`	`yacoob`	`end of cooldown, I mean.`
`22:20.16`	`Gngsk`	`is the action on an action button?`
`22:20.27`	`yacoob`	`It is.`
`22:20.43`	`yacoob`	`from what I see, I'd need to do active checking, when I'd like passive one.`
`22:24.00`	`yacoob`	`all mods I check, do active checks`
`22:24.02`	`Gngsk`	`yea, active checking is the way I see it done most often`
`22:24.26`	`Gngsk`	`wiki is down, can't check if there's an event triggered, but if all mods are doing active checks then there prolly isn't`
`22:24.39`	`Gngsk`	`maybe there's something in special events?`
`22:24.56`	`yacoob`	`what are special events?`
`22:26.04`	`Gngsk`	`it's a library`
`22:26.21`	`yacoob`	`I'm all ears :)`
`22:26.59`	`Gngsk`	`:o`
`22:27.44`	`yacoob`	`well, according to description it doesn't support cds yet :)`
`22:27.51`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: I guess it could also be optimized a bit by using the "new" things in AceEvent for checking if someone has actually registered for the events.`
`22:27.59`	`tumetom`	`any windows freaks here? I'd like to have a batch file that can delet all svn files out of a dir. (.svn files and folders)`
`22:28.17`	`Gngsk`	`yacoob, http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/SpecialEvents/SpecialEventsCooldown.lua`
`22:28.41`	`tumetom`	`the folders are the problem. deleting files works fine with del /F /S .svn`
`22:29.07`	`Gngsk`	`yacoob, better yet, http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/SpecialEvents/Documentation.txt`
`22:29.27`	`wereHamster`	`isn't "target" and "playertarget" the same?`
`22:29.45`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: but it seems to me you index your debuff tables by debuff name`
`22:30.00`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: which would prevent 2 debuffs with the same name from working, pretty much.`
`22:30.27`	`yacoob`	`Gngsk: and here's comes a funny part: I'm trying to trigger bongos on such event, so I won't be able to use it :)`
`22:30.33`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: \|reclaim(newd[txt]) -- Sometimes we get the same debuff twice, SEAura doesn't distinguish multiples of the same debuff unless it stacks\|`
`22:34.30`	`CIA-11`	`03jncl * r10143 10devnull/ (devnull-enUS.lua devnull.lua): /dev/null: changed to use indexing method for AceLocale, added more localisation strings, translations required please`
`22:42.20`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: I can file a flyspray bug, but if you don't have a chance to look at this in the next 18 hours I have to remake the addon without SEEmbedAuras anyway, because it must be ready for tomorrow evenings raid.`
`22:43.07`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 07otravi * r10144 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/core.lua: oCB2 - Removed instantiation of Dewdrop 1.x (Yeah, 1.x). Haste doesn't actually use it anywhere`
`22:45.22`	`Neronix`	`friend was getting errors >.>`
`22:46.19`	`vhaarr`	`Neronix: I notified him about that some time ago, he said he deliberately left it in there.`
`22:46.41`	`vhaarr`	`I offered to remove it for him, he refused.`
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`22:53.18`	`gnorlish`	`~emulate neronix`
`22:53.19`	`purl`	`ACTION adds more debug strings`
`23:00.59`	`CIA-11`	`03joshborke * r10145 10HealWatch/ (5 files):`
`23:00.59`	`CIA-11`	`HealWatch:`
`23:00.59`	`CIA-11`	`- removed sticky frame code (it's too buggy)`
`23:00.59`	`CIA-11`	`- hopefully fixed coms bug`
`23:01.46`	`Saroz`	`ehh detox tries to pull spell-cache`
`23:01.49`	`Saroz`	`but doesn't exist`
`23:02.45`	`Saroz`	`Error: URL 'http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/SpellCache-1.0' doesn't exist`
`23:02.59`	`Neronix`	`directory structure changed an hour or so ago`
`23:04.32`	`Saroz`	`oh`
`23:06.41`	`vhaarr`	`Saroz: feel free to fix the external`
`23:06.48`	`Saroz`	`bed now`
`23:12.56`	`Industrial`	`Anyone good with the wiki?`
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`23:14.17`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`evening all`
`23:14.41`	`yacoob`	`Eh, F1.`
`23:14.55`	`yacoob`	`I need to schedule a method call. With chronos.`
`23:15.00`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`any nice dev in a good mood?`
`23:15.24`	`yacoob`	`http://pastey.net/613 - why this won't work?`
`23:15.44`	`Industrial`	`im always in a good mood`
`23:15.46`	`Industrial`	`but im not nice`
`23:15.48`	`Industrial`	`RAWR`
`23:15.50`	`Industrial`	`xD`
`23:16.13`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`hehe, could you give Fubar comp 1.2 a push in the SVN pls?`
`23:17.35`	`Galka`	`Has anyone here used Visor to move the blizz buff/debuff icon positions?`
`23:18.41`	`nev`	`Mikma: that mockup is error'ing :/`
`23:18.59`	`Gngsk`	`he's asleep`
`23:19.02`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r10147 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: BigWigs: Gluth: Really just a push to get something generated on the wowace files section. It seems the BW ZIP vanished.`
`23:19.04`	`nev`	`too bad`
`23:19.13`	`Gngsk`	`nev, you have the latest bt2?`
`23:19.21`	`nev`	`svn, yes`
`23:19.34`	`Gngsk`	`eh, works for me :D`
`23:19.38`	`nev`	`weird`
`23:19.57`	`nev`	`lets see, restarting again`
`23:21.01`	`CIA-11`	`03id * r10148 10FuBar-compat-1.2/FuBar-compat-1.2.toc: FuBar-compat-1.2: added a space, no change - now it has a zip.`
`23:21.08`	`Industrial`	`Moondrake[G5], --^`
`23:21.26`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`Industrial: thanks for beaing so nic..... mean :D`
`23:21.44`	`nev`	`looks like a problem with another addon actually, but mockup is working now .)`
`23:22.02`	`Industrial`	`^^`
`23:24.13`	`Industrial`	`Tekkub, you there?`
`23:24.49`	`Industrial`	`meh I should prolly get some sleep as school starts omorrow and its 01:24`
`23:24.49`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`Industrial: btw, had some problems with idChatPlayer, giving me an error, especially when entering raids. switched to idChat2, no prob anymore`
`23:25.04`	`Industrial`	`good good`
`23:25.30`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`want me to recreate error in idchat1 and post it anyway?`
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`23:25.37`	`Industrial`	`nah I know of it`
`23:25.40`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`kk`
`23:25.48`	`Industrial`	`but thanks`
`23:25.55`	`Industrial`	`im sleepy and going to bed`
`23:25.55`	`Industrial`	`nn`
`23:26.00`	`nev`	`nite`
`23:26.07`	`Industrial`	`tomorrow: docs and bugsquashing :D`
`23:26.07`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`hehe, have a nice day in school`
`23:26.17`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`here it starts in 2 weeks`
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`23:32.58`	`Galka`	`idChatPlayer does what again?`
`23:37.47`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`Galka: i meant the idChat_PlayerNames earlier`
`23:38.01`	`Galka`	`What does that do again? :D`
`23:38.19`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`04-09-06 Changes the way the name of a player is displayed in the chatframe, and if your client knows its class will color it by raid class color.`
`23:38.34`	`Galka`	`Oh nifty.`
`23:38.40`	`Galka`	`Hrm I can get rid of Teknicolor then`
`23:39.01`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`but Teknicolor also changes the color in the RWF`
`23:39.08`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`idChat doesn't`
`23:39.08`	`Galka`	`Aye`
`23:39.16`	`Galka`	`Also in th guildchat`
`23:39.19`	`Galka`	`Does idchat do that?`
`23:39.23`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`yep`
`23:39.29`	`Galka`	`Then it will serve :)`
`23:39.37`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`if the player-class is in your memory`
`23:40.07`	`Galka`	`aye`
`23:40.10`	`Galka`	`same as Teknicolor`
`23:40.15`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`yeppa`
`23:40.31`	`Galka`	`iirc`
`23:40.33`	`Galka`	`IdChatPN`
`23:40.42`	`Galka`	`Makes the playername look like <Player>`
`23:40.46`	`Galka`	`Rather than [Player]`
`23:40.48`	`Galka`	`Right?`
`23:40.51`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`yep`
`23:41.11`	`Galka`	`thanks :)`
`23:41.17`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`but as far as i saw, not in self-made channels`
`23:41.24`	`Galka`	`Ive been searching for this UI image I saw on WoWace forums for 2 days now`
`23:41.40`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`correction: changes it to <> everywhere`
`23:41.40`	`Galka`	`Had white lined texture around the minimap`
`23:41.50`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`players leaving/entereing channels get []`
`23:41.53`	`Galka`	`And a grid with white lines for where he dragged Fubar icons too`
`23:41.57`	`Galka`	`in a 2x4 setup`
`23:42.01`	`Galka`	`Cant for the life of me find it :/`
`23:42.09`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`got the link?`
`23:42.18`	`Galka`	`Nope`
`23:42.23`	`Galka`	`Looking for it to no avail`
`23:42.34`	`Galka`	`Been through the UI Screenshot thread multiple times`
`23:42.51`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`hmm`
`23:43.09`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`anyone knows where i can find the bugsack FuBar plugin?`
`23:43.30`	`Galka`	`Its part of BugSack2`
`23:43.52`	`Galka`	`http://svn.wowace.com/files/BugSack-r9602.zip`
`23:43.56`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`i sought so, but i can't find it in the menu`
`23:44.20`	`Galka`	`Under development tools`
`23:44.27`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`going through all fubar plugins with the fubar menu, can't find it in any cat`
`23:44.41`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`got only tekSupport there... strange`
`23:44.44`	`Galka`	`Its under the Development Tools heading`
`23:44.46`	`Galka`	`Hrm`
`23:44.55`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`...relogging...`
`23:46.06`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`let's see, the plugin is definatly in the libs`
`23:46.36`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`doesn't show grmpfl`
`23:46.48`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`whats the slash command for bugsack?`
`23:47.01`	`Galka`	`The one you'd expect :D`
`23:47.03`	`Galka`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:47.15`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`doesn't work either`
`23:47.36`	`Galka`	`O_o`
`23:47.56`	`Galka`	`I would delete and reinstall BugSack/BugGrabber`
`23:47.56`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`lol, it shows me errors in my chatwindow, but command and fubarplugin don't work^^`
`23:49.43`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`savedvariables also deleted, lets see`
`23:50.53`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`bingo ;)`
`23:53.32`	`CIA-11`	`03nimbal * r10149 10Druidcom/Druidcom.lua: Druidcom: Fixed detecting of leaving druids`
`23:56.01`	`Kebinusan`	`http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot090406155042gq6.jpg`
`23:56.16`	`Kebinusan`	`I really am liking that bantobar texture`
`23:57.27`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`Kebinusan: it's nice but i like smooth better ;)`
`23:57.31`	`CIA-11`	`03joshborke * r10150 10HealWatch/HealWatchComs.lua:`
`23:57.31`	`CIA-11`	`HealWatch:`
`23:57.31`	`CIA-11`	`- minor tweak`
`23:58.17`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`Kebinusan: would even look better without Praid alignment probs :P`
`23:58.17`	`sbu`	`uhm - easiest way to print messages to raid (readable) channel?`
`23:58.48`	`Kebinusan`	`Moondrake[G5], yeah yeah`
`23:58.56`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`sbu: /ra ^^`
`23:59.11`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`:P`
`23:59.11`	`sbu`	`Moondrake[G5]: lua/scripting way ;)`
`23:59.17`	`sbu`	`but yah, thx %-)`
`23:59.26`	`Moondrake[G5]`	`sbu: i know, just messing around`
`23:59.54`	`Kebinusan`	`sbu, http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API :-)`

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