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00:05.43MentalPowerwoot!
00:07.41CIA-1103rabbit * r9511 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Modules can now have a |<option>_validate| translation for toggleoptions that, if present, makes the console option into a text type with validate set to the translation.
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00:14.18ckknighthey all
00:15.06cerementdamn, he saw us! ... oh, wait, taurens don't stealth ...
00:16.10Tuplad-_-
00:16.59cerementhaste: gonna put anything on the forums about oskin or make us install it first?
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00:35.13eternally777Kyahx, you here?
00:35.26Kyahxkinda
00:35.53KyahxIm fighting Vael atm
00:35.56eternally777You converted SmartRes to Ace2, so I'll speak to you since Maia isn't here
00:35.58eternally777Ok, I'll wait.
00:45.17Kyahxkk, whats up now
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00:51.44eternally777Sorry was fighting Maexxna
00:51.47Tuplad:>
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00:52.31eternally777There seems to be a problem with the message variable.  Everytime it needs to be used, I get an error saying "Invalid option in `format'"
00:52.39eternally777Specifically, lines 184 and 72
00:59.29eternally777I'm not sure what could be causing it.  It seems to be clearly defined and obviously a string.
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01:05.34Arrowmastercan somebody help me with how i would use RegisterDefaults with AceDB, heres my code im trying to convert to AceDB http://ace.pastey.net/494
01:10.04Arrowmasteranybody?
01:11.54eternally777I can look, but probably won't be much help.
01:13.27CIA-1103tekkub * r9512 10RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.toc:
01:13.27CIA-11RosterLib
01:13.27CIA-11- TOC tweaks
01:13.59Arrowmasterthe wiki for AceDB is a little confusing, just trying to figure out how i would set my default values and still be able to access it the same way i am now
01:14.19Tekkubhow are you accessing now?
01:14.52Arrowmastersounds[sound] which i intend to change to self.db.profile.sounds[sound]
01:15.08eternally777http://ace.pastey.net/496
01:15.47Tekkubhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/tekAutoRep/Core.lua
01:15.53Tekkublook at how I do it there
01:16.05Tekkubgranted, I collapsed down tehe table, but you get the idea
01:16.32Tekkubet, you forgot commas
01:16.49Arrowmasteri did?
01:17.01Tekkubet did
01:17.17eternally777Yeah.. still pretty good for typing during abom trash as a priest
01:18.02GngskAny examples of hooking LOD addon functions?
01:18.10eternally777Does that look correct (minus the commas)?  That's how I'd do it.  But I agree, the AceDB wiki is pretty confusing
01:18.56GngskI wanna hook ShowReadyCheck() for oSkin, but the blizz RaidUI won't necessarily be present when oSkin's OnEnable gets called
01:19.26Arrowmasteri think you messed up the PlaySound event i had a little by leaving out the .sounds
01:19.32GngskSo, would I just put a self:Hook() call in the event handler I have for RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE ?
01:19.44vhaarrGngsk: Make the blizzard raid UI a OptionalDep of oSkin
01:19.54MentalPowerGngsk: just wait for the RaidUI's ADDON_LOADED event
01:19.58MentalPowerand hook there
01:20.55MentalPowervhaarr: that would force load the raidUI every single time his mod loads (I hope thats not what he wants)
01:21.15vhaarrtrue
01:21.20Gngskso, register ADDON_LOADED, check arg1 for Blizzard_RaidUI and then hook?
01:21.29vhaarryes, that works
01:21.52MentalPoweryup
01:21.55Gngskok, I'll give that a shot, thanks
01:22.58MentalPowernight vhaarr|Zz
01:23.04vhaarr|Zznn
01:25.09Arrowmasterhttp://ace.pastey.net/497 look good?
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01:26.45KebinusanYou will be happy to know that my 3rd party addons are responsible for the instance wide 30 second lag spikes we've been seeing
01:27.04Gngskremove cosmos, duh
01:28.55MentalPowererr... right
01:32.36Tupladhttp://pacifistguild.org/onyxia/CQOnyxia.zip Could this be Aced ? Good onyxia mod
01:33.24Arrowmasterdoesnt bigwigs already do everything it does?
01:33.48TupladMeh
01:33.52TupladGotta change the sound then :D
01:33.59Tupladhm, good idea tbh
01:34.11TupladIm brilliant, I'll insert the "THATS A FUCKING 50 DKP MINUS!!" sound
01:34.51Arrowmasterwhy change the sound?
01:35.31eternally777I assume Kyahx got consumed in his BWL run.
01:35.52Kyahxyea im not paying attention to IRC, sorry :P
01:37.56eternally777It's cool
01:38.10TupladArrowmasterwhy change the sound?
01:38.22TupladArrowmaster: I usually have foobar running
01:38.43TupladArrowmaster: *tink* is hard to hear
01:38.53Tupladbut uhh
01:39.56eternally777Is there a player targets module for PerfectRaid?  I think I remember seeing one.
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01:43.11GngskKyahx, I'll trade you a readycheck for that chateditbox of yours :D
01:43.20Kyahxlol
01:44.50Kebinusan~inflatable dildo
01:44.58purlOh yea, stretch that hole!
01:45.06Gngsk:o
01:46.03Gngskhttp://www.titansofazeroth.com/mods/WoWScrnShot_082906_185921.jpg
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01:47.11KebinusanGngsk, can you make all those frames movable
01:47.36Gngskuh, yea
01:47.42Gngskbut, I wouldn't know how to save their position
01:47.50Gngsksure haste would though
01:47.54Gngsknot sure if he wants to add that
01:48.10GngskI don't even have svn access, so I can't commit D:
01:48.20Gngskbut he'll add it, I'm sure
01:48.58MentalPowerGngsk: is the mod LoD?
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01:49.54GngskMentalPower, no the Blizzard_RaidUI is LoD
01:50.03MentalPowerbut is yours
01:50.12MentalPowerwell, lemme rephase
01:50.22Gngskit's not really mine, but no
01:50.23MentalPoweris the AddOn that defines those frames LoD?
01:57.39MentalPoweranyways the point is, if its not LoD then you can just make the blizzard engine store the locations for you Frame:SetUserPlaced(isUserPlaced)
01:57.51MentalPowerif it is, then you're going to have to remember the location yourself
01:58.23MentalPowerx, y = Region:GetCenter()
02:05.10CIA-1103tekkub * r9513 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFu.toc:
02:05.10CIA-11FuBar_GuildFu
02:05.10CIA-11- TOC tweak
02:05.30CIA-1103tekkub * r9514 10FuBar_FriendsFu/FuBar_FriendsFu.toc:
02:05.30CIA-11FuBar_FriendsFu
02:05.30CIA-11- TOC tweak
02:06.15CIA-1103tekkub * r9515 10Quecho/Core.lua:
02:06.15CIA-11Quecho
02:06.16CIA-11- Changed some crap around, seems the questwatch event fires before the quest log updates... GG blizzard...
02:12.23Tekkub[3. LookingForGroup] [Cairenn] can someone help me with the druid seaform quest i cant find the two halfs
02:12.26TekkubI fucking hate you
02:12.41CairennTekkub: *boggle*
02:12.48Cairennsomeone else with my name? wow
02:12.51Cairennthat's a first
02:12.53Tekkubthat just came across on LFG
02:15.04MentalPowerhttp://www.warcraftrealms.com/search.php?search=Cairenn
02:15.33Tekkubhttp://www.warcraftrealms.com/charsheet/36008686?PHPSESSID=95a51068c74bf1d341441f7d8cbbf5c6
02:15.36Tekkubthat's the one!
02:15.37Cairennwow
02:19.34TekkubI have the sudden urge to write a "simple" comm library and name it Commie
02:20.45MentalPowerTekkub: there is no such thing as a "simple" comms library, unless you create one that doens't support tables and doesn't support strings greater then 254 chars
02:21.12Mikkacecomm is about as simple as it gets
02:21.23Tekkubit'd basically just be a bridge between the CHAT_MSG_ADDON event and AceEvents
02:21.39TekkubI thought AceComm was like, all fucking complex?
02:21.47Mikkacecomm is minimalistic
02:21.56Tekkubhum
02:22.04Mikkdefinitely compared to Sky, but also to Telepathy
02:22.22TekkubHummer trucks are small compared to Sky
02:22.26Tekkubyou p.rove nothing!
02:22.29Mikkhehe
02:22.59Mikkwell ok.. acecomm's encoder could be a bit more minimalistic at the cost of bandwidth
02:23.06Mikkother than that though, it's doing the bare minimums imo
02:23.23MentalPowerits compressing chatlinks
02:23.32MentalPowerthats not "bare minimum" IMO
02:23.44Mikkno that's what i meant.. the encoder has a wee bit of extra logic
02:23.51MentalPowerah
02:23.59Tekkubwell all I want is to take CHAT_MSG_ADDON and break it out into individual events
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02:24.24Tekkublike Quecho_CommTitle, Quecho_CommData, etc
02:25.22Mikkah. sounds like something that acecomm could ride on top of
02:25.26Mikk(should, even)
02:25.43Tekkubwell here's my thought
02:26.04Tekkubyou register a table of you addon's prefix-postfixes
02:26.19Tekkublike Quecho's would be {"Titile", "Data"}
02:26.28Mikkmeep, wrong idea
02:26.41Mikkwhat happens if you want compatibility with something else?
02:26.53Tekkubthen it'll enumerate all those, send comms would then translate to "Quecho\001" "Quecho\002" etc for the prefix
02:27.08Mikkor, heck, even want compatibility with yourself?
02:27.14Tekkuband then on the other end it reverses those and fires events
02:27.43Mikkuse a hash instead
02:28.03Mikkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/StringHash
02:28.04Tekkub"LFM a healer and a tank and a caster and a hunter for BRD!"
02:28.14nekohxD
02:28.35Tekkubyes well the thought was to not make the prefix huge
02:28.48Mikkuse 21 bits split into 3 letters of that
02:28.57Mikkit's addon name + 3 bytes
02:29.00TekkubI know I'm never gonna have but a few header/prefixes/whatever
02:29.22Mikkalso, using a hash on the suffix removes the need to register a table of stuff
02:29.57Mikkwhich is also good from a structure PoV - if you have a sizable addon, you probably want to keep it modular and not have to do event registration in one central location
02:30.14Mikkthen you can just have Register("addonname","suffix")
02:31.07Tekkub"sizabe"
02:31.14Tekkubagain, I was aiming for simple here
02:31.35Mikkhow is this nonsimple? o.O
02:31.46Tekkubmy idea was simpler
02:31.52Mikkit's also somewhat broken
02:32.03Mikkit doesn't deal with changes to the table very well
02:32.07Tekkubin your mind maybe, it works for me
02:32.16Tekkubthe table wouldn't ever change
02:32.25Tekkubit's a one-time on olad thing
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02:32.37Mikki was more thinking of compatbility between different versions of the addon
02:32.43Mikkremove something from the table and it breaks
02:33.07Tekkubyea... I'll probably just stick with me direct hash table here
02:33.27Tekkubplus I gotta watch out for... which char was it? '\t'?
02:33.32Mikkyes
02:33.38Mikkascii 7
02:33.41Tekkubrighto
02:33.55Mikkthe best solution is to just use 7 bits per byte and add 128, i.e. use values 128-255
02:34.27Mikkavoids all the troublesome characters
02:37.22grumpeyusing !!!Libraries .. oCD, and Gotwood show the spark but no bar ?
02:38.38Mikkheck, if you use a proper hash (like StringHash), you can basically forget about the prefix/suffix distinction
02:38.44CIA-1103tekkub * r9516 10Quecho/Core.lua:
02:38.44CIA-11Quecho
02:38.44CIA-11- Tweaked comm crap a bit more
02:38.56Mikkjust take AddonName_PrefixName and hash it to four 4 bytes and be done with it. Short n nice =)
02:39.02Mikks/four 4/4/
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02:51.02Freedonthe svn isnt locked up anymore right?
02:57.32Tekkubhrm... I must be dehydrated... I can still see where I scratched my arm like 5 min ago
02:57.38Tekkubstupid lake of dew...
02:57.46Tekkub*lack
02:58.12Cairennmore like the SVN hasn't been locked down at all, yet
02:58.31grumpey<PROTECTED>
02:58.40grumpeybump
02:59.07Nightdewim here ;)
03:00.41eternally777So does anyone else use SmartRes
03:00.53CIA-1103tekkub * r9517 10GotWood/GotWood.toc: I'm so excited, I've GotWood! And attached to this wood is a piece of paper...
03:01.06grumpeythanks tek
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03:06.02Kebinusanmmm 45s lag spikes, dc's, and 5 wipes on anub like wtf
03:08.27eternally777Yay for 800ms ping during Patchwerk.
03:08.43Kebinusanyeah, we had that yesterday
03:09.19Kebinusanit was so bad that no one's mt targets window werent switching when he did hateful strike
03:09.29Kebinusanerr w/o the double negative
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03:22.05eternally777I have to cancel my heals before the bar get 1/4th the way through the cast, else the lag prevents me from cancelling it.
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03:38.35KirovShouldn't BigWigsTargetMonitor:TargetCheck see if UnitAffectingCombat()?
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04:05.47eternally777arg.. been compiling the same library for over an hour now.  :(  Linux needs to go faster
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04:10.14hastehmm, maybe I should join the 'Hey, we're showing TBC to the press' thingy here in norway
04:12.31MentalPowerhaste: yes you should
04:12.39MentalPowergo make yourself a presspass
04:12.43ZiconThe what?
04:12.52MentalPowerThe Burning Crusade
04:13.09Zicon... d'oh.
04:14.35hasteI'm not sure if I care enough :p
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04:19.44Kyahxok fine you win
04:19.52Kyahxputting the Edit Box into oSkin now
04:19.59CIA-1103tekkub * r9518 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
04:19.59CIA-11SpecialEventsEmbed
04:19.59CIA-11- Fixing more mail events (thank you blizzard for repairing these events mere months after I reported the issue...)
04:20.38hastehehe
04:20.53CIA-1103tekkub * r9519 10FuBar_MailFu/Core.lua:
04:20.53CIA-11FuBar_MailFu
04:20.53CIA-11- Just a tap so that libraries update in the auto-zip
04:21.56eternally777I think if anyone ever releases an Ace2 DamageMeters/SW_Stats, they should make it broadcast via AceComm, and print out as a console message that players can "subscribe" to, which broadcasts automatically after boss fights.
04:22.05eternally777Yea or Nay?
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04:24.01TainA brothel in Australia is offering customers a discount on gas, 20 cents a liter, if they use their services.
04:24.49Tain20 cents a liter is a lot.. that almost pays for itself.
04:25.08Zicon"Where're you going, honey?" "Just out to get some gas!"
04:25.34Firedancerdoes anyone know if denial still works? I need something to keep idiots from randomly inviting my alt to guilds >_<
04:26.33TainAnd evidently you should always pump gas when it's cooler, you lose money pumping gas on a hot day as opposed to a cool night.
04:27.07CIA-1103kyahx * r9520 10oSkin/ (EditBox.lua EditBox.xml core.lua oSkin.toc): oSkin: Added Edit Box skin.
04:27.13Kyahxenjoy haste
04:31.45hasteCan't now
04:31.51hasteServers are down, and I'm leaving soon :p
04:40.01hasteKyahx: you inhert the wrong template btw ;)
04:40.10Kyahxlies!
04:40.27Kyahxdid I forget to change it?
04:41.01hasteEditBox name="oEditBox" inherits="kyEditBoxTemplate"
04:41.05Kyahxheh
04:41.36CIA-1103kyahx * r9521 10oSkin/EditBox.xml: oSkin: Would help if it inherited the right template...
04:42.06KyahxYou could probley do the same without xml, but I was lazy and just stole it from the vizor custom edit box :P
04:43.36hasteI'll might fix it when I get home
04:43.49hasteservers should be up then also :3
04:44.10KyahxI tried skinning the original edit box, but the original textures dont have any names, so I had no ide ahow to hide them.
04:45.45eternally777Kyahx
04:45.51eternally777How was BWL?
04:46.13KyahxWell, the server decided to disconnect our entire raid any time broodlord hit 66% health, so we went to MC :p
04:46.21Kyahxand I got a big ugly claw for my rogue, rawr!
04:46.23Kyahx:)
04:46.40Kyahxwhat's up?
04:47.26hasteI haven't been in MC in... months
04:47.31haste*checks*
04:47.55eternally777Omterestomg
04:47.57haste06/17/06  Molten Core (Ragnaros)
04:48.02hastelast MC ! :D
04:48.12eternally777s/Omterestomg/Interesting/
04:48.12Tekkubday after mah BD...
04:48.23TainThat's around the first time my guild went into MC.
04:48.51hasteWe have enough with Naxx, BWL and AQ40 + ZG/AQ20
04:48.54eternally777In SmartRes, I think there's an issue storing the string that you announce to a given channel when you start rezzing someone
04:48.56TainActually nope well before.
04:49.05Tain7/2/06 was our first MC
04:49.11Kyahxeternally777: did you forget to put %s in the sting somewhere?
04:49.13Kyahxstring*
04:49.28haste05/05/05 was our first MC
04:50.24TainAnd 8/21 was first Nefarian kill.  Almost 2 months!
04:50.38eternally777Hmm
04:50.47eternally777I don't think so, I haven't even changed the message from the default.
04:51.08eternally777And I get a "invalid option in `format' " on line 72
04:52.06eternally777Even when I put a %s somewhere.
04:57.57hasteCairenn: I hate to bother you, but could you clean up Devlark's and Nakawe's mess in the comments? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4778-.html
04:58.07hasteI already hate Devlark enough from before
04:58.18eternally777Kyahx, does that make any sense to you?
04:58.54Kyahxwait, your talking about announceing to a custom channel?
04:59.36Kyahxline 72 is just the res message, I have no idea why you'd be getting an error with the default settings
04:59.40Kyahxthat dosetn make sense
05:00.02Cairennhaste: done
05:00.14Cairennhaste: "I already hate Devlark enough from before" ??
05:00.42hasteI can't take critic at all :(
05:01.01Cairennwhat has he said/done before, and where?
05:03.01hasteRead the comments on his countdoom mod
05:03.56hasteoh, and thanks for the little cleanup :)
05:04.31Cairennlet me know if it flares up again and I'll speak to him/them directly, instead of just deleting
05:04.46Kyahx=(  I came into drama late and missed the show
05:04.52CairennI left your comment, would you prefer that I pull it as well?
05:04.52Kyahxlol
05:05.08hasteCairenn: no, that one should stay untill I update the add on
05:05.19Cairennk, that's what I thought and why I left it, but ...
05:05.27hasteI'll do it when I get home later today
05:19.48eternally777Haste, you've inspired me to install Gentoo on my laptop.
05:19.56eternally777Just thought you'd want to know.
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05:36.53Mikmayello
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05:47.49CIA-1103laric * r9522 10AoFHeal/AoFHeal.lua:
05:47.49CIA-11AoFHeal:
05:47.49CIA-11- Removed code that was from detox as the author didn't approve.
05:47.49CIA-11- New priority handling code is forthcoming.
05:52.49Kyahxhaste: you seem to have forgotten about BoP loots haveing stupid golden dragons around them
05:52.58Kyahxand being seperate frames from normal loots
05:56.32Mikmaouch :P
05:56.35Mikmastupid blizz
05:56.54oxmandidn't approve  Laric ? why ?
05:57.15Laricmaia thought my addon was to close to squishy
05:58.24oxmanthen ?
05:58.30LaricI have no problem with that.. I am coding an addon that suits our raid alliance. what the other healers want.
05:58.45Laricthen nothing. (s)he just didnt approve
05:58.54oxmanit's stupid :|
05:59.05Laricso I remved it again and will code it my own way
06:00.45oxman:p
06:01.12Arrowmasterwhat does AoFHeal do?
06:01.48oxmanhealbot ? ;)
06:01.49Laricshows a list of the 5 most needy targets in the raid. with click heal. It does it by useing 2 levels
06:01.59Laricyes healbot sort of :P
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06:02.15Laricone level for group members and one for rest of raid
06:02.30Laricwill be a third with priority members
06:03.20Laricwill most likely be a first aswell. using ora2/ctra main tanks
06:03.41Larics/first/fourth
06:03.59Laricwhy doesnt purl correct me?
06:04.13Icerothyou need the last slash too
06:04.18Larics/first/fourth/
06:04.23Iceroths/last/trailing/
06:04.40Larictest 1 2 3
06:04.46Larics/1/2/
06:04.49Laricty
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06:14.36Icerothoh fuck, stormreaver getting hardware upgrade
06:15.01Icerothit's so not gonna be up today
06:16.04Mikmagz :D
06:16.15Mikmai bet nordrassil has the same
06:16.32Mikmaoh well i can always go and play at the french server with my loladin
06:17.13iSynicGod, I would gladly give up a day or two of play if it would mean the random lag spikes during raids would stop.
06:17.57Icerothi doubt that's a server hardware problem but rather something in their network
06:18.52iSynicI suppose that's as likely.  I dunno, I've heard it's a common problem.  20 second intermittent lag spikes every 30-120 minutes.
06:26.30ckknightso...
06:26.37ckknightare you a superhero or a supervillian?
06:26.37Mikmahi boss
06:26.56Mikmacan i pick "the lady in emergency"?
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06:27.42ckknightpretty sure the term is "damsel in distress"
06:27.56ckknightbut that's a weak position to play, anyway
06:28.18ckknightgranted, you toy with the hearts of the superheroes and supervillians, but you're just a side character
06:28.28Mikmayeah but they got hots for me
06:28.31Mikmawhich is neat
06:28.34ckknightyou're never gonna see a movie/tv series called "Lois Lane"
06:28.40Mikmanow i can pop out the cryptonite
06:28.49Mikmackknight: wrooooong! :D
06:28.59ckknightoh?
06:29.10Mikmahttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106057/
06:29.12ckknightand don't tell me "Lois & Clark", since that's really just about Clark
06:29.17Mikmalol
06:29.23Mikmawell don't look that url
06:29.42Mikmahttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000159/
06:29.47ckknightthe name "Lois & Clark" was a throwback to the pioneers
06:29.48Mikmalook that instead, *roof*
06:30.04ckknightwhat about her?
06:30.20Mikmanothing ^^
06:30.26ckknightalright
06:30.35ckknightI call supervillian, btw
06:30.41ckknightbut you probably already knew that
06:30.58Mikma"eat this fist of justice!"
06:31.03ckknightgranted, the supervillian is the people's champion, the catalyst of change
06:31.25ckknightsuperheroes just want to keep the status quo in power instead of making the world for the better in a machiavellian sense
06:31.41Mikmathe supervillians usually got the most fun, but at the end they end up dead/jail
06:32.28ckknightthird choice: insane asylum
06:32.40ckknightgranted, that may be a prison for the criminally insane as well
06:32.44Mikmamm, that's pure batman
06:32.53ckknightdon't deny the bat.
06:32.58Mikmabrb, gotta go make some coffee :)
06:44.43CIA-1103wmrojer * r9525 10FuBar_RecZone/: FuBar_RecZone : Corrected External for FuBarPlugin-2.0
06:45.51Mikmamm coffee
06:46.04ckknightI don't drink caffeine
06:46.36Mikmayeah i remember you said that once
06:46.52Mikmaand you don't eat fastfood either, which is good
06:46.57CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r9526 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:
06:46.57CIA-11Glory-2.0:
06:46.58CIA-11- Fixed bases, resources, TTV, and other things based on the score string now being the second return of GetWorldStateUIInfo()
06:46.58CIA-11- NodeToPOI is now SafeNodeToPOI, with a new NodeToPOI implemented without redundant checks. This seems like a good solution for now, until something that works can be decided on permanently.
06:46.59CIA-11- Cleaned up some unused variables
06:47.38Icerothhey, any chance the epl/silithus things could be implemented in battlegroundfu?
06:47.40CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r9527 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/BattlegroundFu.lua:
06:47.40CIA-11BatFu:
06:47.40CIA-11- Typos fixed; minor bugs squashed
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06:57.03CodayusUhhhh
06:57.32CodayusBigwigs just screwed up badly on ossirian  :-(
06:57.45Codayus"Ossirian now weak to curse of"
06:57.50CodayusAnd it reset his supreme timer
07:01.16FISKER_Qaww come on sedatedChipmunk :o
07:01.27FISKER_Qmake that objective tracker hider magizmo
07:01.27FISKER_Q:P
07:01.31MikkThat's sorta bad but it hardly breaks the encounter. Either you have the DPS or you don't :-P
07:02.56CodayusHeh, it's a problem when you don't realize it reset the timer.
07:03.09Codayus"Ossirian is now supreme!"  ....omg wtf?!
07:03.35MikkAeuhm. oops =)
07:03.40MikkThat can be a wiper, yes :-P
07:04.05MikkHalf the raid goes "oh fek" and tries to leg it
07:04.31CodayusSquished a confused tank, he got rezzed, 2nd tank got knocked back, third tank got enveloped, he ran to chase the 2nd tank as the next crystal was clicked....
07:04.37CodayusAnd yes, that so definetly a wipe.
07:05.33MikkCurious: what class do you use for crystal scouts?
07:05.55CodayusRogue usually.  Hunter today.
07:06.02Codayusdepends who we have
07:06.08Mikkmm
07:06.32Mikki hear rogues are pretty common, but we've tried throwing the rogues in as dps also. they soak a lot of healing but DAMN they do a lot of damage on the move
07:08.51CIA-1103fryguy * r9528 10FryBid/FryBid.lua: FryBid: add tooltips to the buttonses.
07:12.50kergothoskin is so perty
07:12.51kergothi love it
07:12.55kergoth~praise haste
07:13.01purlAll hail haste!
07:13.06Mikmait is, really
07:13.18Mikmakergoth: and! haste is making an addon for the bottom-frame today!
07:13.27kergothsweet
07:13.33kergothhttp://kergoth.com/images/wow_046.jpg just had to sshot the pertiness
07:13.35Kirovoskin?
07:13.44MikmaKirov: oSkin, otravi foreskin ;))
07:14.13Mikmakergoth: RAWR! is that chateditbox skin in oSkin now?!? :D
07:16.29MikmaCommit by kyahx  ::  r9520 oSkin/ (4 files):
07:16.31MikmaDROOL!
07:16.46Mikmaanyone tested the latest BattleChat?
07:17.03Elkanonope, what's that?
07:18.00MikmaElkano: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1945.0.html
07:18.47Mikmaeh, lol. http://www.minimatrix.net/miniui/mini_ui.jpg
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07:22.55Jagobahnice
07:32.15CartasWoW is up? :o
07:32.51CartasMikma: When you said BattleChat, did you mean GrayHoof's version?
07:33.15Mikmano, i said BattleChat :)
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07:33.19CartasOkay!
07:33.27MikmaGrayhoof's version is EavesDrop
07:33.32CartasSo it is :o
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07:36.40CartasOkay, finally found and installed it, Mikma :O
07:37.31FISKER_Qwow that's that ui Mikma ?
07:38.52MikmaFISKER_Q: i have no idea :)
07:39.40CartasI've been defeated by BattleChat.
07:39.43CartasMikma :(
07:39.57Mikmameaning what?
07:40.09CartasI can't move it from the centre of the screen.
07:40.24Mikmaunlock it :)
07:40.33Mikma<PROTECTED>
07:40.38CartasAhh
07:40.48CartasI did /SBC, /scrollingbattletext
07:40.50Cartas:p
07:40.55Cartaschat*, even.
07:41.07CartasHm
07:41.09Mikmathat's grayhoof's old version
07:41.13CartasBattlechat doesn't work? :o
07:41.21Mikmayeah it should
07:41.54CartasBut... it doesn't :(
07:41.59CIA-1103packetlss * r9532 10Sponge/ (. Sponge.lua Sponge.toc libs/):
07:41.59CIA-11Sponge: A incoming heal monitor
07:41.59CIA-11- Initial commit
07:43.28CartasI'll do a 'checkout' of it to see. (Ckknight_ would be proud to hear me say that!)
07:44.04MikmaCartas: <Mikma> anyone tested the latest BattleChat?
07:44.13CartasI got the latest...
07:44.16CartasFrom the forum!
07:44.21Mikma:P that means you have and it's not working
07:44.27Mikmaforums? :)
07:44.36CartasWoWAce
07:44.36Mikmatry checkouting it from svn
07:44.41CartasI am :P
07:44.44CartasI bet it'll work.
07:45.04Mikmathere has seem to be an update when i was sleeping
07:45.19Mikmaso that's the reason why i'm interested on it :D
07:45.37CartasAh
07:45.55CartasOkay!
07:45.58Mikmahttp://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace
07:45.58CartasI'll just relog.
07:46.17Mikma21:21 yesterday
07:46.25Mikmahmm
07:46.37Mikmathe previous commit doesn't show on the page anymore
07:46.45Cartas:O
07:46.46Mikmaoh well andalia added alot of features
07:46.47CartasIt works!
07:47.19CartasBleh
07:47.23CartasI'm out of room for it though...
07:47.39Mikmayou need to minimize your ui :)
07:47.46Cartaslol
07:47.49CartasMy ui is minimized!
07:48.23Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/latest.jpg
07:48.32CIA-1103packetlss * r9533 10Sponge/ (. Sponge.toc): Sponge: Updated externals
07:48.56CartasIs that yours?
07:49.15Mikmayeah
07:49.21Cartashttp://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9986/uijx2.jpg
07:49.24CartasHere's mine from awhile ago.
07:49.31Mikmamy agUF is off the screen tho :(
07:50.50CartasGot any advice how to minimize that? :o
07:51.55Mikmawell seems like you're a clicker so no :(
07:52.12CartasI don't really click that much :o
07:52.23Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/raid.jpg
07:52.24HealthThat combat log still needs to be tighter mikma!
07:52.26Mikmathere's an older
07:52.27CartasWhat makes you say that?
07:52.36Healthtell them!
07:52.51MikmaCartas: you have all the bags and microbuttons on screen
07:52.59Mikmathat usually means people use em to open bags
07:53.02CartasI use shift-B to get the bags up.
07:53.18Healthsame here - so I don't display my bags or micro bar
07:53.19Mikmathen remove the bags :D
07:53.25CartasHow? :o
07:53.27Mikmaand microbuttons are useless
07:53.36Mikmawell you have some addon to change the layout
07:53.36CartasHow do I report to a GM?
07:53.48HealthYou display the micro bar again!
07:53.55Mikmayeah :)
07:53.57Cartas:|
07:54.00CartasI have Bartender 2
07:54.01HealthAt least I do.. as I don't tend to talk to GMs too often
07:54.16MikmaCartas: not in that picture ;)
07:54.18HealthBartender2.. strange name, don't you say Mikma!? :D
07:54.32Mikmawhat's that?
07:54.37Health:p
07:54.42Mikmadoes it serve you something to drink?
07:54.52Mikmamage addon?
07:54.54[Ammo]morning
07:54.57HealthDoh, forgot to test the bar swap yesterday
07:54.57Cartaslol
07:55.05CartasAmmo!
07:55.17CartasPossible for me to hide bags/microbar with Bartender2, do you know?
07:55.25Healthyes
07:55.32Health<PROTECTED>
07:55.35Mikmahuh sounds neat
07:55.36Healthand bar9 I think
07:55.41Healthor maybe lower?
07:55.41CartasAha
07:55.42CartasYeh
07:55.47CartasThey're bars 8 & 9.
07:55.48Mikma8 and 9
07:55.49CartasThanks <3
07:56.09MikmaHealth: you don't happen to have a moonkin druid?
07:56.18HealthNo sorry :/
07:56.20HealthOnly a priest nerd
07:56.26CartasOkay,t heyr'e gone, Mikma!
07:56.36HealthYay!
07:56.37MikmaHealth: damn :P
07:56.52MikmaCartas: gz ;) you can also scale the buttons down if you like
07:56.55HealthI added that red thingy addon - works good :)
07:57.09CartasI'll show you my current interface :P
07:57.15MikmaHealth: readrange ftw :)
07:57.23Mikmas/read/red/
07:57.54MikmaCartas: you can try agUF also, but oUF2 is neat too :)
07:58.13Mikmaand since you're a warrior you don't need to see the partymembers in raid ;)
07:58.13Cartas:O
07:58.26CartasI want to see who my party are :o
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07:58.47HealthI don't have party activated in raid
07:58.52Healthjust raid frames
07:59.00Mikmasame
07:59.12CartasI don't have raid frames :o
07:59.14MikmaCartas: and, use something like size 12 on the fonts in MSBT :P
07:59.20Mikmaand change the font to something smaller
07:59.26Mikmait's much more readable
07:59.43CartasI have :)
08:00.20CartasScreenshot inc. :o
08:00.25Cartashttp://img151.imageshack.us/img151/738/uiel1.jpg
08:00.34Mikmahaste: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2034.0.html#msg38875
08:00.36Mikmaowned.
08:01.00Mikmaoh awesome
08:01.03[Ammo]people like that should be shot in the face
08:01.06Mikmanow i can see the battlechat too :)
08:01.09[Ammo]with shrapnel
08:01.30CartasYeh, Mikma
08:01.33CartasI knew you'd like it.
08:01.40CartasI need to move that Battlechat.
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08:01.45MikmaCartas: that's pretty neat, i like that
08:01.53CartasLike what?
08:02.06Mikmathe whole picture
08:02.07CartasBattlechat?
08:02.17CartasOh, thanks old chap!
08:02.21CartasHere I am while raiding.
08:02.23Cartashttp://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4589/wherrorxh5.jpg
08:02.59Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/loladin.jpg
08:03.01Mikma:D
08:03.06CartasAs you can see, Battlechat will be over my Maintankframes if I leave it there :(
08:03.08Mikmathere's my loladin on french server
08:03.25Cartaslol
08:03.45CartasMy Dwarven Priest named Pi on a German RP server > Your loladin on french server.
08:04.06Mikmawell, the name is "patonki" ;)
08:04.12CartasAnyway, if you see the last pic, Mikma :O
08:04.15Mikmabut i always call paladisn as loladins
08:04.18CartasHelp me be more minimal!
08:04.47CartasThe bags/microbars have gone.
08:04.50MikmaCartas: are you a tank?
08:04.52CartasBut that doesn't really help much.
08:04.58CartasOfftank.
08:05.11Mikmaare you protspec?
08:05.23Cartas3/46/15
08:05.30Cartas3/48/15*
08:05.36CartasWait...
08:05.42Mikma:)
08:06.19CartasWell
08:06.21Mikmawell the answer to this one is simple: are you prot-spec of fury-spec
08:06.21CartasAnyway, lol
08:06.22CartasI'm Fury.
08:06.38Mikmaok well anyway, delete the freaking SWstats
08:06.47Mikmait's for epenis
08:06.48[Ammo]delete KHTM!
08:06.56CartasI thought it was pretty useless myself.
08:07.24CartasIt's gone, Mikma!
08:07.29Mikma[Ammo]: KTM is pretty usefull for warriors,rogues, and hunters
08:07.44[Ammo]naah
08:07.49MikmaCartas: now move the MT frames over chat :)
08:07.56Mikmaand make them grow up
08:08.08CartasThey already grow up.
08:08.16CartasIt just grows up strangely... :S
08:08.31[Ammo]you must have toggled that yourself
08:08.41CartasI toggled for it to grow up, yeh.
08:08.52evlHmms, anyone know if it's possible to get candybar to grow negatively after passing the zero point?
08:09.01[Ammo]no
08:09.14[Ammo]impossible
08:09.23[Ammo]if it happens it's a bug and I want to know about it :)
08:09.38Mikmastrangely?
08:09.45Mikmawell they grow like they should i think
08:09.48Mikmai like the way
08:09.53MikmaMT1 is always up
08:09.55CartasI guess not... I just thought it would go from top-bottom 8-1.
08:09.58CartasNot from 1-8.
08:10.08evlI'm having some problems with the GloryLib timings, it
08:10.21Mikmathe order sticks correctly eventho they grow up = love it
08:10.41CartasAnyway
08:10.44CartasSo, I remove SWS
08:10.48CartasMove my tank frames there.
08:10.55Cartasand leave Battlechat where it is?
08:11.20Mikmawell, it's your ui after all, it's up to you :)
08:11.29Cartaslol
08:11.32CartasI want it minimal!
08:11.41CartasYou have complete control over my UI for a bit :O
08:11.54Mikmawell, press (ctrl/alt)+z and it's minimal :D
08:12.05CartasThat's not minimal, it's useless.
08:12.23CartasMinimal = efficient yet clean/tidy :o
08:12.32CartasNot efficient at being useless :(
08:13.53CartasagUF is more "minimal" than oUF2 then, Mr.Mikma?
08:14.23Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/pirate.jpg
08:14.28Mikmasee for yourself
08:14.33CartasOoo
08:14.37CartasThey're quite nice...
08:14.43CartasBut... haste... is the best...
08:14.48CartasNo addon can beat his addons...
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08:16.03evlAs I was saying before that ass-client called; I'm having some problems with the GloryLib timings, it says in the lib that an AV capture takes 302.5 seconds but in reality it's always off by a few seconds +
08:19.02oxmananyone from U.S. ?
08:19.06oxman(yep the country :p)
08:19.08evlI can't code my BGTimers here at work either cause it seems slightly complicated simulating an AV session :)
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08:23.11tumetomI don't liek aguf because of it's look
08:23.23gnorlishblasphemy
08:24.14CartasExactly, tumetom.
08:24.16CartasHaste > All.
08:25.00Mikmahaste is a noobie really, otravi rules
08:25.10CartasWell...
08:25.13gnorlishagreed
08:25.16gnorlishhaste is a hack
08:25.18CartasOnly his mates call him Haste.
08:25.31CartasBut his best mates call him Leifur! (Like me!)
08:26.21Mikmawell, you should call Tuplad 'Vlad' too
08:26.23Mikmahe likes it
08:26.57CartasOkay, will do!
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08:32.20Mikmalunchbreak!
08:32.21Mikmabrb
08:34.27tumetom[10:26] <Cartas> Only his mates call him Haste. ..... he's called "o"
08:34.54CartasO?
08:35.22tumetomO1
08:35.31CartasHe's called... O1?
08:41.38evlIf I'm in a BG and zone out, none of my created frames will persist?
08:42.10Mikko.O
08:42.11evlI think i've put a bit too much work into removing the elements i create for no apparent reason :P
08:42.27evlMikk: O.o
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08:42.50Mikkaeuhmmm.. you can't destroy frames
08:43.00Mikkeven if you nil out pointers, the frame objects remain
08:43.12evllet me simplify it by not using any terms
08:43.36evlsay I CreateFrame something, in this case timers for bg objectives, when the player zones out I don't have to remove them again right?
08:43.47Mikkyou _can't_ remove them
08:43.58Mikka created frame stays created until you reload the ui
08:44.04evlGAH
08:44.29evldo I _need_ to remove it when the player zones out or is it removed anyway since the zone changes
08:44.40Mikkit is never removed
08:44.45Mikkyou can programatically _hide_ frames
08:44.50Mikkbut you can't remove them from RAM
08:44.56evlIsn't zoning the same as reloading the uI?
08:45.00Mikkno
08:45.19evlso I do have to take into account that the user may leave/win/lose the BG
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08:51.28evlAnother thing, if a library I'm using registers for PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, how can I guarantee that my addon runs it after the library?
08:52.11Mikkby hooking the library event handler
08:52.21Mikkcan't think of a better way to _guarantee_ it
08:52.35MikkCURRENTLY, events are fired in order of registration
08:52.47Mikkbut i hate coding something that depends on that assumption. assumptions are the mother of all fuckups.
08:53.32Mikkwell.. ok... you could hook P_E_W, but only set a boolean in it, and then react to the boolean being set in an OnUpdate
08:53.52vhaarrugh
08:54.42evlHmmms, I'll have to hack to pieces GloryLib then
08:56.09evlMikk: in order of registration is the same as W3C's DOM i reckon? First in last out?
08:56.55vhaarreh
08:57.10vhaarrthe W3C DOM Event model does NOT guarantee order.
08:58.35evlwith a ordered dictionary it's like that in 99% of the cases you put through it
09:00.57vhaarrWhat?
09:02.27vhaarrI guess you haven't experienced the list implementation changing without notice, breaking your assumption that something was in a given order. It does actually happen, you know.
09:03.21vhaarrBetween Gecko 1.7 and 1.8, they reversed the order HTML tag attributes were returned without saying anything about it in the newsgroups, simply because the specification states that the order is not guaranteed.
09:03.23evlSure but in the most common cases where you do something like addEventListener("someEvent", parent) and then addEventListener("someEvent", child)
09:03.25evlthe child will run first
09:03.41vhaarrSome fuckhead in our webpage department was relying on it and it stopped working.
09:03.53evlthat's the problem I'm facing now
09:04.29evlI can't gurantee that GloryLib has initialzied all the battlefield objectives in it's P_E_W before I process them in my P_E_W
09:04.35evlinitialized*
09:05.08evlideas appriciated :)
09:06.18Mikkhook glorylib's event func
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09:06.56evlMikk: isn't it cleaner to write a patch for GloryLib which it dispatches when it's done initializing?
09:07.12Mikkglorylib is acey?
09:07.24Mikkif so, firing an ace event when it's done is certainly the cleanest
09:07.57evlglory is ace2 afaik
09:08.01Mikkdo that =)
09:08.20Mikk(i have no idea what glorylib is. i assumed it was out of your control)
09:08.24evlSorry for the question spam but I just started and some of the documentation is pretty vague ;) (so is the code :D)
09:13.55MikmaCartas: yo, available for a little test?
09:14.53evlany lua equivialent to a = b ? c : d?
09:17.35Healththere is an or thing!
09:17.54Gngska = b and c or d ?
09:18.02Healthsomething like that
09:18.21Mikmahmmh?
09:18.26Mikmanot sure what you meant by that :D
09:18.44Gngskit's a C thing, short hand if then else
09:18.48Health"alternetive" conditional statement
09:19.35Mikmaif something then doit() else dont() end
09:19.36Mikma? :D
09:19.58evla = 1
09:20.04Gngskit's better to use the latter in certain situations
09:20.05evlb = a == 1 ? 2 : 3
09:20.13evlthen b would be 2
09:22.22GngskI know there exists a somewhat equivalent for lua, I just don't remember what it was
09:22.25kergothevl: there is no equivalent.
09:22.30Gngskok, there you go
09:22.34Mikmawhoa, i just got an interesting "wtf" experience
09:22.48kergotha and b or d doesnt work because then b is conditional on both a _and_ b's state, not just a
09:22.49Mikmawhere in the hell i do set the scale for bars in login? :D
09:23.03kergoths/b is/d is/
09:23.49phyberCoffee machine of the Gods: http://www.bezzera.it/gifprod/high/eagle_crome.jpg
09:25.12evlkergoth: something here though http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Shrink_a_Macro#Substituting_and.2For_for_if-then
09:28.34kergothand? thats no different, itll still fail in the case where the value you want (b) evaluates to false or nil, since the third is dependent upon both the first and second
09:28.36oxmanRophy very very nice SimpleCombatLog :)
09:28.48kergothadmittedly not necessarily a common case, but it isnt nearly a replacement for ? :
09:29.19Healthoxman: any recent changes that made it nice? :P
09:29.39oxmanno
09:29.43oxmanbut i discover it
09:29.44oxman:D
09:29.48Health:)
09:30.15evlkergoth: agreed, lua is pretty lacking in some things that I take for granted; getters/setters, ternary operator, switch etc.
09:30.46Healthpolymorphism > switch! *theehee*
09:30.49CIA-1103icetrain 07Ammo * r9534 10oRA2/oRA2/oRA2.toc: oRA2: .toc updated to save Fubar settings
09:32.08HealthWould be nice to see the changelog for a specific addon on svn.wowace.com/files too.. instead of having to download it too check inside the archive :p
09:32.45[Ammo]use the rss feed from cia
09:33.01MikmaHealth: i think clad was thinking of it but not sure wil lhe make it
09:33.13vhaarrI miss svnweb.
09:33.35Healthhttp://kasoo.net/HzRazu.html - wonder if that is usable
09:34.04MikmaHealth: yeah i think it's made for the 1 specific encounter in naxx
09:34.10HealthYeah, I know
09:34.27Mikmacheck out the comments in those sites and tell us ;)
09:34.27Jagobahwish you could modify thaddiusarrows to have negative left and positive right :(
09:34.34vhaarrWe have that for BW, it's just not committed yet, because I haven't been to our guilds last 5 raz kills.
09:34.43vhaarrJagobah: I just did.
09:34.47vhaarrJagobah: I'm committing shortly.
09:35.09HealthI'm planning to down him! He's pretty easy I hear.. even for half t2 geared guilds :p
09:35.27Jagobah:O !
09:35.30Jagobahsweet
09:35.33HealthAnd what I've seen he seems easy
09:35.46HealthI feel that it shouldn't be a problem for me as a priest to do the MC
09:35.49Healthcake easy
09:36.21[Ammo]he's a pushover
09:36.27[Ammo]gothik is mad fun
09:36.40[Ammo]had our first night of attempts on him last night
09:36.43FISKER_Qhey ammo
09:36.49CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r9535 10oRA2/oRA2/ (Libs/ Participant/Buff.lua oRA2.toc): oRA2: added empty buff module for further RN message implementation
09:36.57FISKER_Qlike can't you make some kind of indication if your target matches a maintank target?
09:37.00kergothevl: the zen of lua is doing more with less
09:37.02Healthpushover as in? easy? =)
09:37.13[Ammo]FISKER_Q: like user oRA1 kthxbye :p
09:37.14kergothevl: they provide incredible flexibility with minimal primitives, leaving you to implement the rest
09:37.17kergothnot necessarily a bad thing
09:37.21evlkergoth: and reloading the ui a WHOLE lot :)
09:37.22FISKER_Q:(
09:37.25[Ammo]yeah Razuvious is easy
09:37.26FISKER_Qbut they said oRA2 was cool
09:37.27kergothno, thats a wow issue
09:37.28FISKER_Qand i agreed
09:37.30kergothhas nothing at all to do with lua
09:37.31[Ammo]it is cool
09:37.34FISKER_Qso i kinda downloaded it
09:37.36[Ammo]but it's BASIC
09:37.42FISKER_Qwhat?
09:37.45[Ammo]requests for features get dustbinned
09:37.46FISKER_Qway better than oRA :P
09:37.47evlkergoth: I prefer ruby over any other script language though
09:37.59kergothruby's nice.  i need to learn it more
09:38.10kergothi use python most
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09:38.45oxmanruby is the best
09:38.50evlkergoth: I used to write a lot of python but I feel ruby has a much more solid core and coding it is so enjoyable
09:39.01oxmanand you will go in hell with ruby 2.0 and his vm :)
09:39.05[Ammo]if you want a proper targetting mod that shows you what target you're targetting and what the MTs are targetting get PerfectTargets for now ;)
09:39.11[Ammo]I use that alongside the oRA2 mts
09:39.22evloxman: what was that? :P
09:39.29oxmanthe virtualmachine for ruby
09:39.31FISKER_Qnah no biggie :)
09:39.35oxmanit will come with ruby 2.0 :)
09:40.03oxmanyarv is the name of the vm
09:40.08oxmanyet another ruby vm
09:40.14evlI think that ruby spent so long getting out of the "birth" state that it has solved all the problems other script languages have faced during their teens
09:40.55Health[Ammo]: wtb screenshot of your raid setup!
09:41.32oxmananyone come from USA ?
09:41.47evlI wrote a EQDKP replacement in Ruby On Rails, sadly I lost interest in wow atm
09:41.54CIA-1103rabbit * r9536 10BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows/ (BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows.Lua Readme.txt): BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows: Can now reverse the circular strategy. This can be a bit confusing, so I'm open to ideas on how to make it easier.
09:41.55[Ammo]http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/ui.jpg health
09:42.03oxmanthat's very nice evl :)
09:42.20vhaarrJagobah: There you go, please test.
09:42.28vhaarrJagobah: Make sure you update BigWigs, too.
09:42.41vhaarrKebinusan: Check that commit, please, I'm not sure about it.
09:42.51evlruby is pretty magical sometimes with statements like this: event.characters.delete(@session[:member].characters)
09:43.24Healthruby on rails you mean? ;)
09:43.38evlNo
09:43.47evlhave you seen the equivialent in other languages?
09:43.52oxmanror isn't all in the ruby's web development :)
09:44.05evlIt's crap and RoR wouldn't be shit without Ruby imho :)
09:45.07evluh, wierd question, does Blizzard spell Grey or Gray? :P
09:45.15evlTrying to figure out what code to feed to paintchips
09:45.18Health$event->characters->delete($session->member->characters) ? heh
09:46.03Health[Ammo]: I wonder if I dare to test it in MC tonight :P
09:46.47Gngskgnome ftw!
09:47.07evldamn straight :)
09:47.55[Ammo]test what in MC?
09:48.25HealthoRA2 + raid frames
09:48.40HealthCan you give player targets?
09:48.53Healthplaers
09:48.55Health...
09:49.40[Ammo]no
09:49.44[Ammo]player targets are for nubbers :p
09:50.01HealthI meant as a leader.. can you assign targets? :P
09:50.15HealthWe're a bit nubby! As on garr we like to assign targets :)
09:50.38[Ammo]no you can't
09:50.40[Ammo]but use the damn raid icons
09:50.42[Ammo]there's 8 of em
09:50.48HealthOur server is pretty sucky! It's been up since release, one of the oldest, and had its first C'thun kill yesterday :P
09:51.02[Ammo]the target manager in CTRA is outdated and not useful anymore
09:51.20HealthYeah, a bit
09:52.24evlHealth: Sylvanas?
09:53.20Healthevl: EU-Stormrage
09:53.37evlAha, someone in BG yesterday was spamming that someone got for C'Thun kill yesterday :P
09:55.13evlWho do I contact for commit rights to SVN?
09:55.23kergothclad
09:57.13evlkergoth: his email?
09:57.21kergothhm
09:57.24kergoth~cladhaire
09:57.29purlmethinks cladhaire is the current author of WatchDog, PerfectRaid, and a number of smaller addons.  He is also a core developer of the Ace project.
09:57.32kergothbah
10:00.04evlkergoth: if you find it please /msg me, off to lunch
10:02.20kergothevl: jnwhiteh@gmail.com
10:06.01CartasCladhaire is evil, watch out evl!
10:06.13CartasHe gets mad very easily :P
10:08.27Laricevl.. cladhaire at gmail com
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10:10.18Laricello ckknight_
10:10.44Laricwhat is the license for the ace libs?
10:16.01packetlssare there any nice Ace2d BG addons?
10:19.06vhaarryes
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10:26.47evlpacketlss: I'm making one :)
10:26.57CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r9537 10oRA2/oRA2/Participant/Buff.lua: oRA2: drycoded experimental buff reporting module
10:29.41CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r9538 10oRA2/oRA2/Participant/Buff.lua: oRA2: buffs module with 1 less bug at least
10:30.02FryGuyhmm
10:30.10FryGuyisn't that what XRS does? :p
10:32.11[Ammo]FryGuy no
10:32.32FryGuyammo Ammo * r9537 oRA2/oRA2/Participant/Buff.lua: oRA2: drycoded experimental buff reporting module
10:32.45[Ammo]this implements the RN message for CTRA
10:32.47kergothxrs's buff buttons are great
10:32.51FryGuyooh
10:32.57FryGuybuff reporting to other raid peoples
10:33.13FryGuythrough the raid "channel"
10:33.15MikmaXRS
10:33.18FryGuytimers i mean
10:34.40FtH|eagleand I hope I can implement the timers into xrs :)
10:36.21FryGuyhow would that work?
10:36.33FryGuyand how would you possibly do blessing timers you hordie :)
10:37.00FryGuyoh and I noticed that some numbers show up as "..." in the little buff icon window
10:37.07FryGuylike 14 i think
10:37.08FtH|eagleone reason: we'll get paladins soon too ;(
10:37.10FryGuyor maybe 15
10:37.17FryGuyin like 5 months :/
10:37.18FtH|eaglemh yeah, I'll make it a little smaller
10:37.29FtH|eagleand someone requested it
10:40.51CIA-1103rabbit * r9539 10FuBar_LocationFu/ (3 files): FuBar_LocationFu: Coodinates?
10:52.22CIA-1103moonsorrow * r9540 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua:
10:52.22CIA-11BigWigs (Thaddius):
10:52.22CIA-11- completed german locale
10:52.51CIA-1103moonsorrow * r9541 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Loatheb.lua:
10:52.51CIA-11BigWigs (Loatheb):
10:52.51CIA-11- german locale added
10:53.08[Ammo]Shinja should be shot in the face
10:53.15[Ammo]and then raped by mutant gorillas
10:55.33evlwho's that?
10:56.15[Ammo]some fucktard who decided it a good idea to go holler about Ace2 and his first impressions on the Ace2 addon forum
10:56.20[Ammo]oRA2 ai mean
10:59.33Mikmahmm, where?
11:00.08[Ammo]raid addon forum
11:05.00CodayusHmmm.
11:05.10CodayusI must admit to having a great deal of confusion.
11:05.26CodayusWhat purpose did the author of that post believe he was serving?
11:05.36[Ammo]no idea
11:05.47[Ammo]to piss me off?
11:06.08CodayusI dunno, it's just so...baffling.
11:06.55CodayusI apparently missed the memo.  When did issuing "reviews" of development builds become a good idea?
11:07.06CodayusOr even a comprehensible idea?
11:07.37HealthWhat did he write about it then?
11:07.49CodayusHe liked it.
11:07.51Mikmaoh right
11:07.52Codayus<shrug>
11:07.59Mikmai have forgot about the damn raid addons forum :D
11:08.08evl[Ammo]: and where is this post?
11:08.30Codayushttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2036.from0
11:09.41Mikma[Ammo]: whm, what is the meaning of that post actually?
11:09.53Mikma"hello, oRA2 is a branch. kkthxbb"
11:10.00evlI think it was more
11:10.05evl"New keyboard, let's try it"
11:10.11Mikmalol
11:10.32Mikmai had to try the same too
11:10.39Mikma(everyone reload the page xD)
11:11.00evlI have the perfect picture for this occasion, been waiting to use it :D
11:11.24Mikmaoh post it
11:11.41evlthere
11:12.00Mikmahttp://www.realmofatland.com/?p=37
11:12.03evlshamelessly stolen from a nurfed post sometime but it says everything that needs to be said
11:12.14CodayusHm.
11:12.25CodayusIs that...a teddy bear...kicking a man...in the nuts?
11:12.33evlyes :)
11:12.36CodayusI see.
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11:12.39Mikmameh neat
11:12.47CodayusYes, it fits the thread well.
11:12.53MoonWolfI will take no more of this Mikma, *takes the trout away and puts it back in the wild*
11:13.03MoonWolfno slapping!
11:13.07Codayus"If you love something, set it free", eh?
11:13.12evlMoonWolf: you're a tauren druid treelover aren't you?
11:13.15CodayusI guess that makes MoonWolf a fish lover.
11:13.20CodayusZOMG, that's sick!
11:13.43MoonWolfthere is way to much troutslapping on the irc's
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11:13.54MoonWolfgo slap someone with a glove or something.
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11:14.03Mikmaphew
11:14.07Mikmatuplad almost scared me
11:14.22evl[Ammo]: don't kill me but I'm making a patch for CandyBars allowing for a number of sorting modes (unsorted, time asc/dsc, name asc/dsc)
11:14.36hasteevl: http://www.beverpung.net/images/4chan/1154414404075.jpg << that image > yours ;)
11:14.53CodayusHmm.
11:14.59evlhaste: I can riposte that easily by telling you I'm dating an asian called Titti Ho
11:15.03CodayusIt's a close run thing.
11:15.04evl8)
11:15.09hastehaha
11:15.27Mikma~wtf gtfo
11:15.33evlhaste: that patch is probably very nice for oCD too
11:15.57Mikmadoes the TITS have more meaning than (.)(.) ?
11:16.02hastenope
11:16.10evlwhy should it?
11:16.13hasteI think you have to visit 4chan to get it
11:16.20evl"tits, there are two, one for me, one for you, tits, there are two"
11:16.25hastethe general reply on /b/ is tits or gtfo
11:16.49Mikmammkay :D
11:16.58Mikmathat explained alot, thanks haste :)
11:17.01evlfunny that you should mention it but I hang in another ace channel on quakenet #ace (16 years old) where people just paste weather info and 4chan /b/ links :P
11:17.14evlsort of a porn-o-bot
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11:17.29hasteevl: haha, maybe I should start hanging there :p
11:17.52evlhaste: we have a guy named fox who does nothing but scour /b/b :P
11:18.08hasteevl: I have several of those in my guild
11:18.26hasteevl: another shaman renamed his char Tentacle when he migrated with the guild
11:18.40evlif I need a temp table inside a function, is local t = {} enough or do I need to use this GreenPeace Compost thingy?
11:18.50evlhaste: mmm tentacles
11:19.00hasteevl: weebl and bob :D
11:19.22evlI need a guild that can farms C'Thun so I can get that bloody tentacle
11:19.29Mikmahaste: tentacle rape party!
11:19.43evlThink about the number of NE females I could pleasure with my trinket, makes me all fuzzy inside
11:19.46FryGuyit never drops :(
11:19.48hastedoesn't the tentacle trinket drop from the trash?
11:19.54FryGuyno from the eye
11:20.02hasteI know we have gotten one
11:20.19hasteor was it the meteor..
11:20.20Gngsktentacle drops from c'thun, meteor drops from trash
11:20.21FryGuymeteor trinket drops from trash
11:20.22hasteI don't remember anymore :p
11:20.28FryGuyanubisath trash afaik
11:20.44Codayusmeteor trinket?
11:21.09Codayusoh, nm
11:21.12FryGuyconsidering it's called "Vanquished Tentacle of C'Thun"
11:21.13FryGuy:p
11:21.22LaricHealth there?
11:21.25Gngskhaste, is there a reason to use _G["frame"]:method() instead of just frame:method()
11:21.35FryGuyhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=21891
11:21.51FryGuyif there's a local frame defined
11:21.56MoonWolfDoes anybody know the function that is triggered by the speak bubble chat button on the chat frame ?
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11:22.52Mikmahaste: doing the bottom-addon today? :)
11:22.56sbu'morning
11:23.09hasteMikma: probably
11:23.10FryGuylet me look MoonWolf
11:23.24Mikmahaste: 3 cheers for you, yay, yay, yay!
11:23.28FtH|eagleElkano: ping
11:23.48FryGuyChatMenu_OnShow?
11:24.14FryGuyor ChatMenu_OnLoad()
11:24.16Elkanopong, but playing TD
11:25.09FtH|eagleyou have som typos in guildfu, and I fixed them, shall I upload?
11:25.51HealthLaric: Yes, why?
11:26.21LaricHealth what server do you play on.. as C'Thun died on Stormrage for the first time tonight.. are you playing htere aswell?
11:26.54Laricsaw your comment further up the chat when i was scanning :P
11:26.55HealthYeah, I told a bit further up :)
11:27.03Laricwhat guild?
11:27.04HealthThat I was on EU-Stormrage
11:27.11HealthJadestone Alliance
11:27.30Laricoki
11:27.39[Ammo]evl: just let me check that patch, It's still on my todo
11:27.54Mikmahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Telepathy_ChangeLog
11:28.01evl[Ammo]: finishing it up now, i just came up with the alpha sort thingy so I have to make that too
11:28.08[Ammo]right now CandyBars OnUpdate handlers eat near to no memory etc
11:28.19Laricwonder if the servers getting new hw today is going to be faster at all?
11:28.20[Ammo]and I'd like to keep it that way
11:28.32evlI was thinking of doing it in UpdateGroup
11:28.35Gngskhaste, what do you think about using something like http://ace.pastey.net/501 ?
11:29.30Laricis there any shut down events coming when a client is logging out?
11:29.36FryGuyis telepathy the cosmos version of acecomm?
11:29.41Laricor do a reload etc?
11:29.41Mikmayes
11:29.44[Ammo]fryguy yeah
11:30.03FryGuyammo: wouldn't the sorting be done on adding/removing? time goes at the same rate, and names don't change :p
11:30.07Mikmabut look at the 1.1 version
11:30.24[Ammo]fryguy: yeah what evl says in UpdateGroup
11:30.27Mikmai can't believe that he actually DID listen ckknight and really thanked him :D
11:30.28[Ammo]I just like to review the code :)
11:30.49hasteGngsk: I have, but there isn't many frames it can be used for ;)
11:31.03hasteGngsk: oSkin as it is now is just a copy paste from my tinypad
11:31.35CIA-1103moonsorrow * r9542 10FuBar_GuildFu/FuBar_GuildFuOptions.lua:
11:31.35CIA-11FuBar_GuildFu:
11:31.35CIA-11- typos!
11:31.39[Ammo]woot!
11:31.45Gngskyea, that's what i figured, but with the addition of editbox and readycheck there was a lot of redundancy
11:31.47FryGuyuggh
11:31.48Mikmaoh noes
11:31.53Mikmahe put typos in!
11:31.54FryGuy*
11:31.54FryGuy<PROTECTED>
11:31.55FryGuy:\
11:32.07FtH|eagleMikma: sure :P
11:32.09hasteFryGuy: haha
11:32.10[Ammo]no he removed annoying 'level' complaint typos
11:32.33hasteGngsk: feel free to clean it up :3
11:33.27Laricora2 have a fubar plugin now?
11:33.29Gngskhaste, I have, just need to dig in the sandbox for a while. Got commit access last night :D
11:33.33MikmaLaric: yes!
11:33.40Laricniiice :P
11:33.52Mikmayou are the third one to say that
11:34.00Mikmaatleast what i have seen ;)
11:34.09[Ammo]sigh :p
11:34.12FryGuyora2 is stable now?
11:34.14[Ammo]I still have to tweak it though
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11:34.18[Ammo]no idea fryguy
11:34.23[Ammo]I did some drycoding this morning again :)
11:34.29Laric[Ammo] not all of us is commandline fanatcis :P
11:34.30FryGuyi thought it was the "don't use this zomg it's gonna break" state
11:34.33[Ammo]but deleting Participant/Buff.lua will fix that :p
11:34.40[Ammo]it still is fryguy
11:34.43FryGuy:(
11:34.50[Ammo]it can eat your babies
11:34.56FryGuynoo my babies
11:34.59[Ammo]yeah
11:35.10Laricora2 has worked great for me... I really liked the 'experimental' mt frames you made ammo
11:35.25Mikmaaye
11:35.31Mikmathe mtframes is soo kinky :)
11:35.36Mikmais/are
11:35.44Laricthey are simple but do exactly what I want em to
11:35.59[Ammo]icetrain made them btw :p
11:36.02vhaarrdo they work with Clique?
11:36.02Mikmashow the hp of MT and the hp of MT target
11:36.04[Ammo]I just said how I wanted them to look
11:36.08[Ammo]and they should work with clique
11:36.12vhaarrcool
11:36.20Laricbtw anyone here know clique?
11:36.21[Ammo]I did change that behaviour a bit though
11:36.31[Ammo]clicking the MT will target the MT
11:36.37[Ammo]clicking the MT Target will target the MT Target
11:36.41Mikmayeah
11:36.45[Ammo]clicking the MT target of target will target the MT target of target
11:36.46Mikmathat was neat feature
11:36.49[Ammo]for consistency
11:36.53LaricI want clique to work with perfect raid.. but I want it to lay off my normal unit frames
11:36.57Mikmai kinda dig it, alot :)
11:37.05vhaarrLaric: just delete the plugin
11:37.05[Ammo]what I am going to do is
11:37.09MikmaLaric: delete the plugin
11:37.10[Ammo]extend the console/fu options
11:37.14CIA-1103elkano * r9543 10FuBar_FriendsFu/ (FuBar_FriendsFu.toc FuBar_FriendsFuOptions.lua):
11:37.14CIA-11FuBar_FriendsFu
11:37.14CIA-11- updated toc
11:37.14CIA-11- fixed typos
11:37.25Laricbut I cant figure out how to make clique ignore my unit frames?
11:37.31[Ammo]and let you set the click behaviour
11:37.31vhaarrwe just told you
11:37.32MikmaLaric: what do you use?
11:37.33[Ammo]per frame :)
11:37.34vhaarrLaric: twice
11:37.40yacoobwhy on earth my questfu doens't display any options on right click? :)
11:37.44Laricah :P
11:37.46yacoob(no errors :)
11:37.55Mikmayacoob: update!
11:38.02[Ammo]so you can set the MT frame click to target the MT Target
11:38.08yacoobMikma: sir yes sir!
11:38.10[Ammo]and any other way you'd want it
11:38.28yacoobMikma: who should I shout at to release fix to wowi? :)
11:38.29Laricso you gotta delete the plugin... hmm and it is coming back as soon as I do an svn update :P... ideally that should be configurable
11:38.36vhaarrit is
11:38.41vhaarredit the plugin XML file
11:39.05Laricvhaarr I meant like a command line interface or similair..
11:39.24Mikmayacoob: kemayo :O
11:39.26[Ammo]why would you want Clique to ignore frames btw?
11:39.34[Ammo]that goes against the whole point of the thing
11:39.53yacoobKemayo: *scream* :)
11:40.40LaricI was using perl classic and perfect raid.. I want a left click on a unit in perfect raid to heal that target.. but then I cant select units in my own group by clicking on em as clique will heal then
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11:40.57MikmaLaric: use the out of combar
11:40.59Mikmacombat*
11:41.05FryGuyhmm ora2 isn't on the /files page is it :(
11:41.10Mikmaand use shift+click ;) it's smart
11:41.10[Ammo]indeed it isn't
11:41.15hasteaah, I remember the first clique PCUF
11:41.21CIA-1103elkano * r9544 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (FuBar_GuildFu.lua FuBar_GuildFu.toc):
11:41.21CIA-11FuBar_GuildFu
11:41.21CIA-11- updated toc
11:41.21CIA-11- fixed some typos
11:41.21CIA-11- tweaked PLAYER_GUILD_UPDATE
11:41.24[Ammo]I use mouse4 and mouse5
11:41.31Mikmahaste: i remember clad when he was doing the plugin
11:41.31FryGuyi'll just use my super leet svn skillz and get it meself
11:41.33Laricguess I will test it again tonight.. if / when our server ever comes back from the hw upgrade
11:41.38Mikmaoh dear lord he was pissed off haha
11:42.04[Ammo]2 small buttons on left side of my mouse
11:42.06Mikmahome calls!
11:42.07hasteMikma: "seen PCUF? look at any if it!"
11:42.16[Ammo]one is quick heal, other is big heal
11:42.44yacoobLaric: make it shift+click for healing :)
11:42.46Laricammo I have one of those for autorun.. will those still work with that?
11:43.08[Ammo]yeah
11:43.17[Ammo]as long as you don't try to autorun while hovering over a frame
11:43.31[Ammo]clique makes playing my pally a breeze
11:44.00[Ammo]I actually enjoy healing with clique
11:44.07Laricammo that is exactly what I want :P
11:44.07[Ammo]hands on the mouse, paladin on follow on a mage :)
11:44.19[Ammo]beer in the other hand
11:44.22[Ammo]and click away
11:44.26Larichalf asleep?
11:44.30[Ammo]naah
11:44.33[Ammo]wide awake
11:44.37[Ammo]have to keep those players topped up
11:44.40[Ammo]and watch the mana
11:44.40Lariccoding on the laptop?
11:44.44[Ammo]and watch the overheal
11:44.50[Ammo]healing is an exact sience
11:44.52[Ammo]science
11:44.56LaricI know :P
11:45.14Laricvery easy being the main tank healer like I am...
11:45.38[Ammo]my pally isn't high enough yet
11:45.43[Ammo]I just heal Uldaman, ZF etc
11:45.58Laricmy pally is lvl 28 :P
11:46.03[Ammo]44
11:46.16Laricmy priest is the healer guy :P
11:46.32Lariculdaman.. yikes.. gives me the shivers even thinking of going there
11:46.59LaricI went there once when the game was new and we though we had a real nice party of 5 lvl 48's...
11:47.07Laricwe sure got our assess kicked in there
11:47.18Laricmarked us for life..
11:47.25yacoobAw, Ulda is fun!
11:47.30yacoobIndiana Jones forever ;)
11:47.40[Ammo]uldaman is a great instance imho
11:47.42[Ammo]quite easy
11:47.46Lariculda might be fun with a 60 in tow to save your ass :P
11:47.46Elkanohmpf... I hate RosterLib's directory structure on svn :/
11:48.19[Ammo]Elkano: did you just fix the 'level' locale errors?
11:48.29Elkanoyes
11:48.29Gngskhmm, where's teh sandbox?!
11:48.31[Ammo]coolio
11:48.51GngskThe requested URL /root/sandbox was not found on this server.
11:49.16Elkano~seen maia
11:49.36purlmaia <n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 13h 9m 59s ago, saying: 'ah, okay. so I wasnt really ways off.'.
11:49.39Gngskoh, hrm. it's /sandbox
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11:52.03vhaarrElkano: yeah many libs have the wrong structure, they should just be fixed
11:57.15CIA-1103otravi 07Ammo * r9545 10oRA2/oRA2/Participant/Buff.lua: oRA2: PBuff - Drycode fix.
11:57.47[Ammo]:)
11:58.25ElkanoI wonder if I should commit a RosterLib\ with fixed directory structure...
11:58.36Laricammo get yourself wow on that lapttop of yours :P
11:58.39haste'RegisterEvent*"Special' :D
11:58.57[Ammo]I don't have a laptop
11:59.04[Ammo]:)
11:59.06hasteah
11:59.13[Ammo]I have a PC at work
11:59.21[Ammo]it runs wow again
11:59.22Laricxopy wow :P
11:59.27[Ammo]but not during work ours
11:59.34[Ammo]people look at me funny when I start it
11:59.46Laricwindowed minimized soundless :P
11:59.47CIA-1103rabbit * r9546 10BigWigs/MC/Shazzrah.lua: BigWigs: Shazzrah: Apparently he blinks every ~45sec.
11:59.47Healtho.O - like that?
12:00.33Laricbah.. now they changed the maintenance for another 2 hours...
12:00.39Lariccant test all my drycode then
12:01.11HealthHooray! Lucky me I'm at work
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12:01.19Elkanowell, get chars in different hosting locations ;)
12:01.23[Ammo]Laric: I already have only 4 fps in Kharanos looking at a wall
12:01.30[Ammo]windowed mode will not improve that
12:01.35Lariccrap pc :P
12:01.56[Ammo]not a crap PC
12:02.00[Ammo]no video card
12:02.09[Ammo]shared piece of shit etc
12:02.17[Ammo]so software emulated hardware 3d
12:02.22Laricmy latop does 70 fps at 1920x1200 :P
12:02.42hasteyour laptop has a better screen then me
12:02.52hasteI can only run 1680x1050 :p
12:02.57Laricdell xps m170 i think it is called
12:03.05[Ammo]I can't type on laptops
12:03.08Laric7800 gtx
12:03.18[Ammo]so getting a laptop would mean getting an extra keyboard too
12:03.20[Ammo]and a proper mouse
12:03.32LaricI have an external keyb and mouse
12:03.39Laricelse I cant type more than 1 char per hour
12:04.05[Ammo]which kinda nullifies the use of a laptop
12:04.14[Ammo]~seen kaelten
12:04.36purlkaelten <n=Kaelten@68.63.37.188> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 8h 45m 47s ago, saying: 'gnight guys'.
12:06.03Laricammo nah.. you can take it along :P thats the nice thing about it
12:06.20LaricKaelten has long nights it seems..
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12:06.23hasteI have a laptop
12:06.26hasteI use it for VT
12:06.27hastethat's it
12:06.31Laricvt?
12:06.36hasteVentrilo
12:06.41Laricoh
12:06.43[Ammo]well Kaelten uses Acelocale 2.1 in onebag
12:06.49[Ammo]and that breaks its use in other locales
12:06.56*** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)
12:06.59[Ammo]so wonder if he'd mind a branch back to AceLocale 2.0 :p
12:07.15[Ammo]I also don't like the fact that it's the only addon using 2.1
12:07.15Laricwhat is the point of acelocale 2.1 anyway?
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12:07.43Laric[Ammo] questsfu also uses 2.1
12:07.47[Ammo]urgh
12:07.58[Ammo]time to branch that too
12:08.20LaricKemayo wasnt too happy that i messed with his trunk version
12:08.35FtH|eagleand bgfu uses 2.1 :/
12:08.45[Ammo]2.1 is just plain broken atm
12:08.58Laricthere is a branch of it ammo... I have branched questsfu.. it works nicely with 2.0
12:09.05hasteisn't it slightly slower also?
12:09.42[Ammo]it isn't faster
12:09.44Laricshouldnt 2.1 reaqlly reside in a branch and not in trunk while it is still broken?
12:09.45[Ammo]and it breaks compat
12:10.00hasteI was tinking of 2.1
12:10.37`-FISKER_Q\does the server or the client determine the afk state?
12:11.05`-FISKER_Q\i.e. if i'm afk for 10 minutes is it then the server that says my client thats afk or the client that sends to the server i'm afk?
12:11.24[Ammo]there is a cvar
12:11.27[Ammo]named: autoAFK
12:11.56hasteFisker has like the worst nick ever to highlight :p
12:12.12[Ammo]autoClearAFK
12:12.13[Ammo]hmm
12:12.29FISKER_Q:)
12:12.31FISKER_Qsorry
12:12.55FISKER_Qmy client is kinda screwed so i just do it manually when i find out
12:13.26[Ammo]I need to find a script in irssi that makes nicknames in all caps lowercase
12:13.31[Ammo]fisker yells too much
12:13.34FISKER_Q:(
12:14.56CIA-1103wmrojer * r9547 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (FuBar_GarbageFu.toc GarbageFu.lua): FFuBar_GarbageFu : Added svn:properties Rev Date
12:15.20TupladGarbageFu
12:15.21Tuplad?
12:15.27ElkanoI think it's the server. If you have autoClearAFK active and are sending messages via an addon, afk will be cleared and set again directly thereafter
12:15.49[Ammo]yeah
12:19.52CIA-1103wmrojer * r9548 10FuBar_RecZone/ (FuBar_RecZone.toc RecZone.lua): FuBar_RecZone : Added svn:keyword Rev Date
12:21.20Tupladhaste: You there ? ;>
12:22.09evl[Ammo]: major headache with the text sorting and I gotta work now, I have to work on the patch later
12:22.15Laricwhat does svn:ignore do btw?
12:25.42MikkTells svn clients to not add files matching the pattern(s)
12:25.57haste[Ammo]: http://www.irssi.org/scripts/scripts/washnicks.pl
12:25.59hasteTuplad: yes
12:26.08Tupladhaste: Show me a recent screenie of your UI please :)
12:26.36hasteTuplad: do I really have to look one up :p ?
12:26.49Tuplad;< give me your screenshot storage then
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12:27.25hastefuxsake.net/images/games/wow
12:27.29hastebeverpung.net/images/games/wow
12:27.40Tupladkk
12:27.53hastenone of those are 100% up to date ofc :p
12:28.05FISKER_Qyou could've put in a http://
12:28.07FISKER_Qbut nooo
12:29.03hasteI could, but then I would have to do more
12:29.11hasteand it's not clickable here anyway
12:29.27TupladFISKER_Q: Opera UserJS > haste
12:29.44hasteTuplad: seriously...
12:29.48Tupladhaste: yesh
12:29.55Tupladhastehttp://fuxsake.net/images/games/wow
12:29.56Tupladis what I see
12:30.45hasteI don't fucking care
12:30.50Tupladk
12:31.12TupladSomeone should continue AceTimer :]
12:31.26hastelike Facboy who is?
12:31.33Tupladhe is ? :O
12:31.45hasteread the topic?
12:32.07Tuplad:|
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12:36.51Tupladhaste: I see
12:48.08Mikmameh
12:48.14Mikmacarebear haste
12:55.32evlHmms
12:56.13evlon a side note, I'm having serious swap problems which I think may be because I'm in pre-emptive swapping hell, I've got 1gb ram with a 2.5gb swap and the system is really hurting when I have wow and whatever open
12:57.33HealthI hear you're naved Vlad Tuplad`?
12:57.37Healthnamed*
12:58.16Mikmayeah i heard the same, is that true Vlad?
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13:01.14HealthVladdi boi?
13:01.46Healthhttp://www.donlinke.com/images/Vlad/vlad_tepes_big-x01.jpg - is that you?
13:05.09Gngskstop pickin' on vlad, sheesh
13:06.24Tupladhehe :>
13:06.35Tupladyesh, my name is Vlad
13:07.23HealthVladimir!
13:07.35HealthI have a co-worker named that
13:10.15Tupladno
13:10.16TupladVladislav
13:10.38TupladVladimir would be Vova, Im Vlad )
13:11.54JoshBorkemorning
13:12.06Tupladsup
13:20.00FISKER_Qan addon can by it self call an afk or a logout right?
13:20.31hasteGngsk: You know what I just did?
13:20.49Gngskno?
13:21.00hasteoh damn, it's not a working copy anymore :p
13:21.04hastegive me a couple of secs :p
13:21.13Gngskkk
13:21.25GngskI been sitting here look at tortoise for a few hours
13:21.51Gngsktried to copy the oSkin remotely to /sandbox/trunk but got a propfind error
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13:27.42CIA-1103otravi * r9549 10oSkin/ (EditBox.lua GroupLootFrame.lua StaticPopup.lua core.lua): oSkins - Changed to Gngsk's applySkin function, and hopefully didn't break anything
13:30.51Mikma:D
13:31.09hasteand now to change it all :3
13:31.26hastewell, after I've eaten something
13:31.52Gngskcool, I'll post my ReadyCheckFrame code up and you can add that too
13:32.33Gngskalso, I think i'll work on adding an option for anchoring the EditBox
13:32.47Gamefaq|afkbtw. haste just found this :) http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,2034.0.html
13:32.59hasteI found that a couple of hours ago myself
13:33.05Gamefaq|afk^^
13:33.19Mikmaomg omg
13:33.23Mikmai got an error.
13:33.25Mikmai'll relog
13:35.10Mikmawoot
13:35.12Mikmamy mac rocks
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13:36.25snurreplease.. for the love of badgers, add an option in bugsack to hide "an error has been recorded" in the chatframe
13:36.38Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/fps.jpg
13:36.43Mikmabeat THAT!
13:36.53snurrewhen stuff like candybars starts generating errors it spams you with hundreds of errormessages every few seconds
13:37.07vhaarrMikma: lol
13:38.04phyberhmm, I went to check out DVDs on play.com but typo'd 'play.com' as 'www.wow-europe.com'. :|
13:38.21vhaarrhaha
13:38.22hasteMikma: give me a sec
13:38.36phyberzomg, they have TBC for pre-order.
13:38.46vhaarrold
13:39.43phybermay as well put in the pre-order then.
13:41.24Mikmahaste: no the error is gone after relog
13:41.24kloppehaste: the libs for oSkin aren't included in the .toc :)
13:41.38Mikmahaste: i didn't relog when i did svn update and /rl
13:42.11hastekloppe: did I overwrite the .toc now :D
13:42.23kloppenah, they weren't before either
13:42.27hastethey were
13:42.32hasteI remember I added them ;3
13:42.42kloppenot in the last revision at least :)
13:43.25Gngskhaste, http://ace.pastey.net/502
13:43.52KebinusanGngsk, Itd be pretty cool if you could undock the edit box too, so no tjust edit at top/bottom but have it free and locked in place somewhere
13:44.12KebinusanI could get rid of confab then since thats all I use it for heh
13:44.22Mikmawow neat
13:44.26Mikmactrl+arrows work in chat
13:44.31Mikmait jumps between words
13:44.40Gngskalways did mikma, you just had to hold alt
13:44.57Mikmano
13:45.02Mikmaplain ctrl+arrows
13:45.04Gngsk_G["ChatFrameEditBox"]:SetAltArrowKeyMode(false)
13:45.07Gngsk:P
13:45.15CIA-1103andalia * r9550 10BattleChat/BattleChat.lua:
13:45.15CIA-11BattleChat:
13:45.15CIA-11- Options for height, width and texturesize.
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13:45.28MikmaAndalia: yo mate, i got a nice bug for you
13:45.38MikmaGngsk: test it, ctrl+arrows while you have typed something
13:46.17AndaliaMikma: So tell me what you found ;)
13:46.22GngskMikma, I know. I'm saying if you set that to 'true' you need to hold ctrl+alt+arrows
13:46.28MikmaAndalia: i love screenshots
13:46.43MikmaGngsk: no...
13:46.47Mikmaplain ctrl+arrows :)
13:47.04Gngsktry it!
13:47.12Gngsk/script _G["ChatFrameEditBox"]:SetAltArrowKeyMode(true)
13:47.24JoshBorkemorning Rophy
13:47.27Mikmai don't need alt
13:47.30Rophyhi
13:47.45GngskMikma, I know but it's true by default
13:47.48hasteGngsk: I hate not using diffs, but I think I managed it correctly :p
13:48.26Gngskhaste, I'm sorry. My dev environment is currently very unorganized. Getting a new computer Saturday so I'm not going to bother trying to organize myself atm.
13:48.44CIA-1103otravi * r9551 10oSkin/oSkin.toc: oSkin - Fixed the TOC.
13:48.45Nightdewhaste: wanne be test pig for a new version of SpellStatus-1.0 before i check it in?
13:49.12hasteNightdew: The odds of me re-creating it is slim tho'
13:49.24hasteand I don't have the time to go poke someone with my rogue :p
13:49.44Nightdewhaste: quite alright.. at least it becomes clear if i didnt break anything else
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13:49.54Nightdewhaste: poking can be fun *cough*
13:50.01Nightdewhaste: http://ace.pastey.net/503-13d1
13:50.33CIA-1103otravi * r9553 10oSkin/ (ReadyCheckFrame.lua core.lua): oSkins - Added ReadyCheckFrame, by Gngsk
13:51.03Mikmaooh nice
13:51.27Gngskthx haste, I'll test it out now
13:52.06hasteGngsk: It blew up :p
13:52.18hastesince I didn't change the toc
13:52.23CIA-1103rophy * r9554 10/tags/FuBar_RegenFu/: FuBar_RegenFu - Creating tags folder.
13:53.15Mikmaoh yeah
13:53.21MikmaAndalia: so now i'll show you the SS
13:53.30Gngskahh, yea
13:54.07hastewhich is why I like diffs ^^
13:54.39Gngskwell, i was just gonna commit it all myself, but I couldn't test in the sandbox. didn't wanna screw anything up :\
13:54.51CIA-1103rophy 071.2.1 * r9555 10FuBar_RegenFu/: FuBar_RegenFu - Tagging final FuBar-1.2 version.
13:55.15AndaliaMikma: go on
13:55.56hasteGngsk: just edit the files, then commit it ;3
13:55.57MikmaAndalia: http://wow.reaktio.net/bc.jpg
13:56.03MikmaAndalia: this is with windowed mode
13:56.05hasteif it blows up, we can always roll it back a revision
13:56.10Gngskhaste, k
13:56.25JoshBorkeuh oh, someone has a n00badin
13:56.29JoshBorke:-D
13:56.31MikmaAndalia: also, the texts overlap in windowed more, but work OK in max mode
13:56.44AndaliaMikma: bah
13:57.05MikmaAndalia: yeah, the windowed mode _REALLY_ is a bitch, it has habbit it breaking stuff
13:57.15CIA-1103otravi * r9556 10oSkin/oSkin.toc: oSkin - Fixed the TOC.
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13:58.19AndaliaMikma: I'll try to reproduce that but I think that might be hard to fix xD
13:59.04MikmaAndalia: yeah i'm 90% sure it's impossible to fix since the windowed mode always brakes stuff up. including FuBar :)
13:59.22MikmaAndalia: oh yeah check out the code from FuBar, it has a code on rescaling the window over in windowed more etc
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14:01.10AndaliaMikma: That sucks ^^ I don't even use windowed mode
14:01.29MikmaAndalia: i use it like 70% of my time :)
14:02.03GngskI use it 100% atm
14:02.24hasteReroll Linux, no more need for Windowed mode
14:02.28KebinusanI run full screen windowed mode never had any problems
14:02.53hastefullscreen windowed mode kills fps tho'
14:03.06Andaliawith my resolution of 1024x768 every pixel counts. I don't want do loose space. Maybe I should try maximized mode
14:03.07JoshBorkeis that so?
14:08.27tiggwell I had no big performance impact when I turned on fullscreen window
14:08.55Andaliaso thats no option for me ^^
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14:15.18CIA-1103gngsk * r9557 10oSkin/ReadyCheckFrame.lua: oSkin - Tweaked position of ReadyCheckYesFrameButton and ReadyCheckFrameText.
14:15.35FISKER_Qhaha
14:15.37FISKER_Q<-silly goose
14:16.02Gngskscreenshot of my first commit! 9557 ftw
14:18.59Mikma:)
14:19.06Mikmagz and welcome to the hook
14:20.15Mikmalol, i opened DFM in game
14:20.22MikmaBOOM! 2 megs +
14:22.15kloppehaste: I'm getting oSkin\core.lua:8: attempt to call method `ChatEditBox' (a nil value) and I don't know why :(
14:22.35kloppe(not new with the latest revision, was getting it before too)
14:22.44yacoobMikma: lots and lots of frames.
14:23.18HealthDFM is?
14:23.26kloppediscord frame modifier
14:23.35Gngskkloppe, you have the latest revision?
14:23.40kloppeyes
14:24.03Mikmait's still the best addon in snooping crap in game :)
14:26.44FISKER_Qhttp://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7993/fiskerftwdc7.jpg
14:28.58yacoobMikma: frames you mean?
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14:29.40Mikmayacoob: i mean all things, i can dig the names of buttons, textures of buttons, texturenames etc :D
14:30.41yacoobMikma: what's wrong with visor then? :)
14:31.25Mikmayacoob: it's too hard :( *sob*
14:32.46knodii got a question about Praid, when Praid check for buffs/debuff the current member its scaning, what var is the raidIndex number for that member saved in?
14:33.40yacoobMikma: nah, where?
14:38.04MikmaGAH
14:38.15Mikmawhat's the freaking name for Microbutton icons
14:38.50ThraeMikma: Look in VzScript, I have it there
14:38.58Mikmamm goodie
14:39.33hasteclaviola: restart your client, see if that works ;)
14:39.36hasteerrrrrrr
14:39.40hastekloppe: see above
14:39.48hasteI'm going to take a quick nap now ;)
14:40.28MikmaThrae: nope, no iconnames
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14:41.00ThraeMikma: Pretty sure they were in there, lemme check
14:41.17MikmaThrae: i only saw buttonnames
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14:42.16ThraeMikma: VzScript:HideMainMenuBar
14:42.46ThraeIt's only like 150 lines, sheesh
14:42.55kloppehaste: huh, it did help :o
14:43.04MikmaThrae: and where in there is the iconname? :)
14:43.30ThraeOh you want the TEXTURE name?
14:43.33CIA-1103rophy * r9558 10FuBar_RegenFu/ (6 files): FuBar_RegenFu - FuBar-2.0
14:43.41MikmaYES :)
14:43.46ThraeYou'll have to go into FrameXML for that
14:43.56ThraeI was confused when you said "icon" because there's no such thing
14:44.02yacoob*bounce*bounce*
14:44.05Mikmayes there is actually :)
14:44.08Mikmaie.
14:44.30MikmaActionButton1NormalTexture = second gray border, ActionButton1Icon = the icontexture of the button
14:45.12ThraeMikma: That's just a variable name, they are TEXTURE objects with TEXTURE paths
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14:45.54ThraeThere's only two Widget objects which use the word icon in their functions, and that's Minimap and Model
14:46.18Mikmammkay
14:46.34Mikmawell i need the variablename for all buttons in microbar
14:46.36ThraeIE, that's just someone at Blizzard using the wrong naming convention
14:46.47ThraeGo to FrameXML or use DevTools
14:47.03ThraeThe latest version of DevTools can dump frame info for anything you mouseover
14:47.03Frittiyay, error throttling seems to work.
14:47.10Mikmaooh
14:47.17Mikmathat's pretty, so long dfm
14:47.43vhaarrFritti: Excellent :)
14:47.49Frittionly prob is strategy
14:47.57Fritticurrently I have a timeout of 30 secs
14:48.03Frittiwhich is not restarted on repeats
14:48.08vhaarrprovide a counter
14:48.13Frittiso basically every 30 secs you get an error
14:48.32FrittiI've considered restarting the timeout every time I detect a repeat
14:48.43Frittibut that would mean that continous OnUpdate errors wouldn't get logged
14:48.46Frittianyway around that?
14:49.30vhaarrwhat you're doing now makes sense, I think
14:49.40vhaarrI don't understand what you want to do
14:49.48FrittiI'm not sure myself, hence the question
14:50.17Frittithe code I have now spits out an error every 30 secs (either orig error, or 'last message repeated X times')
14:50.32vhaarrsounds fine?
14:50.36vhaarrwhat
14:50.36Frittiok
14:50.45vhaarrwhat is the problem with doing that?
14:50.54vhaarrbut maybe you should provide a counter
14:51.00ThraeYou could index by the error and for collisions, add the time for each collision.
14:51.22Frittivhaarr: a counter?
14:51.36vhaarrye, that says how many times the error occured
14:51.36FrittiThrae: I only check the previous error
14:51.50Frittioh yes, that's logged after the timeout
14:51.54phyberRophy: RegenFu update, nice.  :)
14:51.59Fritti"last message repeated X times" with correct X
14:52.02vhaarryes
14:52.07Rophy:)
14:52.09ThraeWell, that way could possibly reduce the database and overall performance hit by up to 50%
14:52.58FrittiThrae: but I'm not interested in spitting out 'repeats' for errors other than the previous one
14:53.03GngskThoughts on http://titansofazeroth.com/mods/WoWScrnShot_083006_105013.jpg ?
14:53.08Frittiif people have alternating OnUpdate errors, well, tough luck
14:53.10Frittigo fix the addons
14:53.15ThraeFritti: I'm talking about logging
14:53.32ThraeFritti: Repeated errors are still logged each time, right?
14:53.38Frittiah, no
14:53.46Frittiit logs the error one time
14:53.52vhaarrthey don't need to be, just give it a count
14:53.55Frittithe next message will be 'last message repeated X times'
14:53.59vhaarrthe error is the same anyway
14:54.03Frittiexactly
14:54.16HealthoSkin is sexy!
14:54.29Healthup!
14:54.30Healthheh
14:54.35Gngsksure is
14:54.46Gngskbe nice to have more texture styles though
14:54.54Gngskand something to replace those ugly red buttons with
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14:56.13LaricI want blizzard to learn to estimate time..
14:56.53ThraeLaric: It's good PR to not give any definite deadlines unless you are 100% sure you can meet that exact deadline.
14:57.00Laricservers been down 15h now. they started with saying 12. extended it to 14.. now they dont even give an eta
14:57.25Laricthey gave a deadline
14:57.25yacoobThrae: no, it's bad PR to constantly shift times
14:57.31vhaarrYeah, they really SUCK at giving ETA's.
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14:57.40packetlssLaric: your server getting new HW?
14:57.41ThraeRight, why is why they shouldn't have given such a specific ETA to begin with.
14:57.48Laricyeps new hw today
14:58.00Gngskit'll be worth it :p
14:58.00packetlsswe got i last week, had 22h downtime in total
14:58.01yacoobAnd repeatedely NOT being able to give any ETA is... well... hmm... hopeless and funny
14:58.12Laricnew hamter to run the wheel.. the old one was dead tired
14:58.15Gngskour realm got retrofit last week, we downed like 3-4 new bosses in nax
14:58.36Laricwe are hoping bwl will be liveable
14:58.41ThraeNot really, it's called "Reasonable Doubt" -- you can't prove they can't give an ETA from them not giving one
14:58.47Laricbwl is like hopeless right now
14:58.59packetlsswe went from having 3-4s spell lag on razorgore to zero
14:59.00ThraeYet if they give an ETA and miss it, you can prove they didn't give a good ETA
14:59.15Laricnice
14:59.23Laricthen we might be able to kill him again
14:59.43Laricwe have only downed him once.. but that time we actually didnt have more than 1.5 sec spell lag
15:00.00packetlssmaillag or everything else DB-related is still kinda slow on primetime though
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15:00.12Laricwe can live with that
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15:02.00Laricam I 'allowed' to add my own modules to clique or should I branch it+
15:02.16Neronixafternoon
15:02.56Mikma[Ammo]: for some reason the clickcasting ain't working for me. but i need to update oRA2 propably
15:03.09[Ammo]it should owrk
15:03.15[Ammo]but maybe we need oRA2MTF module :)
15:04.16Mikmahmm it IS up to date and it ain't working :P
15:04.38[Ammo]guess I forgot something :)
15:04.55[Ammo]I'll check differences with the old oramtf
15:05.00[Ammo]but first
15:05.01[Ammo]BEER
15:05.15Mikmaneat, beer
15:05.31Mikmai got something left too from my batchelor party
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15:10.58Mikma~devtools
15:11.02purlextra, extra, read all about it, devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999
15:11.02Neronixdoes branches get zipped now?
15:11.30CIA-1103pprovost * r9559 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_PoisonFu.toc):
15:11.30CIA-11FuBar_PoisonFu:
15:11.30CIA-11- Updated version to 1.3 for posting to wowi
15:17.17knodianyone online right now that worked on praid?
15:18.19knodii'm trying to filter out int buff form warriors and rogues from showing int buff on there frame
15:18.28Mikmaclad|work
15:18.31Mikmawhisper him
15:18.42knodiwill do, thx
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15:19.29Cairennor /join #wowi-lounge, where you can actually find him
15:22.02Mikma[Ammo]: setting maintanks with ora2 menu don't work
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15:23.56Mikma[Ammo]: wtb growup feature :)
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15:26.23CIA-1103mikma * r9560 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: Removed Bagborders too
15:27.26[Ammo]Mikma: type: 1 Mikma
15:27.39[Ammo]and as I said: I need to change the MT menu some more
15:27.50Mikma[Ammo]: yeah :) good thing that you know it
15:28.00[Ammo]ou need to type the MT number and name
15:28.02[Ammo]atm
15:28.04Mikmabut the growup, is it inn yet?
15:28.07[Ammo]no
15:28.13Mikmadamn, will have to wait :)
15:28.27[Ammo]it's not that important :p
15:28.39[Ammo]I was working on more compat with CTRA first
15:28.41Mikmait is rather nice one actually :)
15:28.48Mikmabut, anyway don't mind me
15:28.58Mikmait's your project and i can't force you into anything
15:28.59[Ammo]right now clickressing on released persons isn't wrking for some odd reason
15:29.01AzurewrathHi together *yawn*
15:29.15[Ammo]but I don't have a character to test that with
15:29.26Mikma[Ammo]: that's the normal way the game works :P
15:29.44[Ammo]I mean it doesn't send the CTRA resurrecting this person message
15:29.45Mikmaatleast i can't ress released persons with PR / Blizz raid
15:29.51Mikmaoh right
15:29.53Mikmadifferent thing
15:29.57[Ammo]you can res them by clicking their corpse in the 3d world
15:30.13[Ammo]I probably messed up some conversion :)
15:31.14[Ammo]there are a few other issues as well
15:31.39Mikma<[Ammo]> right now clickressing on released persons isn't wrking for some odd reason <- that one messed me up :)
15:32.02[Ammo]ah ok
15:32.05[Ammo]hehe
15:32.11[Ammo]I can sometimes type a bit silly
15:32.29[Ammo]I'll give you your growup crap
15:32.32[Ammo]give me 10 mins
15:32.36Mikmawell i can do it too, just type what you are thinking
15:32.40Mikmahey no need :D
15:32.44Mikmawe're starting Rajaxx now
15:32.59Mikma(i'm always in the MT slot since i keep targeting lieutenant)
15:33.18Mikmahuzzah for clique :)
15:33.39Mikma<1833> ::: #wowace You need to be a channel operator to do that
15:33.40Mikma:(
15:33.44CIA-1103tekkub * r9561 10FuBar_MailFu/Core.lua:
15:33.44CIA-11FuBar_MailFu
15:33.44CIA-11- Fixed typo in the MiniMapMailFrame:Show() hook
15:33.47Mikmathat was /invite clad|work
15:33.58Mikma(HINT! HINT!)
15:34.32Mikmaoh LOL! there is a raidicon on my MT target bar
15:34.42MikmaCaptain has a skull, muaha
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15:35.25evlAnyone here worked with Glory or BG stuff in general?
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15:40.53[Ammo]Mikma: added, probably tyos but shrug
15:41.04CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r9562 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: growup added to maintank module
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15:42.00[Ammo]did it in 8 mins too instead of 10 :p
15:42.20Mikma[Ammo]: lol you're great :)
15:43.36[Ammo]does it work?
15:43.39[Ammo]:)
15:43.46Mikmacan't say yet, in middle of waves in rajaxx :)
15:43.50[Ammo]it should work, unless I typo'd a lot
15:43.51[Ammo]so?
15:43.54[Ammo]do /rl :)
15:44.04Mikmawell i'm a healer and i need to keep the noobs alive :D
15:45.16[Ammo]bullshit :)
15:45.22[Ammo]they  can quaff health pots and bandage
15:45.32Mikmai'll reload after this mob
15:45.40[Ammo]hmm Bonusscanner as an embed would be nifty
15:45.49[Ammo]it could also use some resource usage tweaks
15:45.55[Ammo]since it's using 0.2kib/s unneeded :)
15:46.51evlStuff like GetMapLandmarkInfo returns a textureIndex, how can I use a specific icon within a texture index?
15:47.15Mikma[Ammo]: works but in a different way than in latest ora1
15:47.22[Ammo]oh?
15:47.25[Ammo]it grows up doesn't it?
15:47.35Mikmayeah but it reverses the places
15:47.38[Ammo]?
15:47.44[Ammo]yeah ofcourse
15:47.49Mikmai'll try to explain it soon :)
15:47.57Mikmawave 8/8 inc :D
15:48.00[Ammo]haha
15:49.00[Ammo]I guess you want the highest MT at a set point at the bottom
15:49.45Tekkuboh I just had a cool idea
15:49.56Mikma[Ammo]: just a sex
15:50.17Tekkubwrite up an OnDemand loader stub... and have it get it's data from the client addon's TOC
15:50.35[Ammo]tekkub: I have a feature request for SE-Aura2.0
15:50.40Tekkubso that th estub doesn't have to be modified for every addon that uses it
15:50.44Tekkubwhat ammo?
15:50.53[Ammo]have it fire SpecialEvents_PlayerBuffRenewed
15:51.03[Ammo]when someone's buff is renewed and not new or lost
15:51.04Tekkuberm... yea that's a fun one...
15:51.19TekkubI can do it for the player, but not anyone else
15:51.24[Ammo]for the player is fine
15:51.33[Ammo]I only want it for the player
15:51.41[Ammo]and maybe for debuffs, stack increases etc
15:51.44[Ammo](only for player)
15:51.45Tekkubokey... Flyspray me so I don't forget
15:51.50[Ammo]nonono
15:51.52[Ammo]you code it now!
15:51.54Tekkubdebuffs do that
15:51.55[Ammo]so you don't forget
15:51.57[Ammo]ok cool
15:52.07Tekkubif the stack count changes it fires debuff gained
15:52.26Tekkubwith the new stack count
15:52.30[Ammo]cool
15:52.35[Ammo]you could do the same for buff
15:52.42Tekkubit only fires debuff lost when the debuff is completely removed
15:52.43[Ammo]but fire with an extra argument renewed
15:52.57Tekkubyea I gotta convert buff to the new stack stuff still
15:53.05Mikma[Ammo]: ok now rajaxx is dead :)
15:53.08[Ammo]:)
15:53.16[Ammo]I kinda need it for oRA2
15:53.18Mikma[Ammo]: yes, previously it worked in a way that MT1 was always up, first
15:53.24[Ammo]yeah
15:53.26[Ammo]well Mikma
15:53.28[Ammo]you're in bad luck
15:53.35Tekkubso whatcha think... like my TOC-metadata driven loader-stub idea?
15:53.38Mikmayeah, but i can live with that! :)
15:53.51[Ammo]hmm
15:53.59[Ammo]nifty tekk
15:54.20[Ammo]you can even register metaloadermodules
15:54.42[Ammo]X-MetaLoader: InRaid
15:54.53Tekkubyea I'm thinking two TOC things, and event to catch and optional verify function
15:55.00Tekkuboh I like that
15:55.13TekkubJoinParty, JoinRaid
15:55.15Mikmai put on my robe and wizardhat?
15:55.23TekkubEnterBattleGround
15:55.30[Ammo]X-MetaLoader: InRaid InZone(AQ40)
15:56.04Tekkubhrm... I'm seeing conditions and events there
15:56.15TekkubEvent: EnterZone
15:56.25Tekkubwell, you can't enter without a raid so
15:56.29Tekkub:)
15:56.29[Ammo]true
15:56.56Tekkubnow the real question is, will people use it :)
15:57.13[Ammo]well we can distribute a nice oRA2 BigWigs + (some kind of raidframes)
15:57.18[Ammo]with MetaLoader
15:57.23[Ammo]or however you call it
15:57.27MikmaPR perhaps? ;D
15:57.29JoshBorkeTekkub: i have absolutely no idea what you're talking about :-D
15:57.45Tekkuband what to name it...
15:57.47[Ammo]yeah
15:57.49TekkubStubbedToe
15:57.52[Ammo]haha
15:57.52TekkubPaysteb
15:57.57[Ammo]I'd call it something handy
15:57.59TekkubCheckstub
15:58.00[Ammo]something that says what it does
15:58.25[Ammo]btw we need to slap some people around Tek
15:58.35Tekkubwhy?
15:58.37[Ammo]there is now AceLocale 2.0 and 2.1 used in different addons
15:58.41[Ammo]we need to either kill one or the other
15:58.45Tekkubheh
15:58.55[Ammo]because this is not good
15:58.56TekkubI'm just staying back and waiting for one to win :)
15:58.59[Ammo]haha
15:59.03[Ammo]well 2.1 breaks for other languages
15:59.06[Ammo]seemingly
15:59.09Tekkubhum
15:59.20[Ammo]so right now 2.1 using mods are being forked for 2.0 :)
15:59.23Tekkuband last I say ckk claimed he got 2.0's performance better than 2.1
15:59.26[Ammo]aka OneBag, QuestFu
15:59.30[Ammo]yeah
16:03.41TekkubI just had a really dumb thought
16:03.54Tekkubwe don't have that much use of our wiki... mainly... me...
16:04.19Tekkubwhy don't we talk to *someone* about moving our wiki onto WoWWiki?
16:04.36CartasTekkub!
16:04.41NeronixCosmos guys are very high up in WoWWiki
16:04.42CartasYou're the Wikimaster :O
16:04.54Neronixthey'll either vote us out, or do sneaky shit
16:04.55TekkubI know I am
16:05.04CartasTekkubWiki
16:05.07CartasMake your own!
16:05.10TekkubNero: that's not very "community" now is it?
16:05.15NeronixtekWiki
16:05.26CartasWikkub
16:05.27Tekkubtweki
16:05.56MikmaYksi talon kuudesta naisesta avautui eilisessä illanvietossa ja kertoi asuintovereilleen tykkäävänsä enemmän tytöistä.
16:05.58TekkubI dunno I'm just... meh noone ever uses our wiki except for API shit
16:06.16CartasDo you really need one? :o
16:06.22Mikmawhops wrong chan
16:06.44TekkubI really like the wiki, especially for addon pages...
16:06.59TekkubI'm tired of updating 5 different things when one thing changes...
16:07.08Tekkubforum... mod submissions... wiki...
16:07.15evl[Ammo]: would when I think of it later be nicer with just a SortGroup(compfunction) than automagically doing it
16:07.15CartasYou should hire someone to help.
16:07.31TekkubI'd like to just have people use the talk page for an addon and put all the links on the wiki
16:07.52Tekkubsomeone should hire ME so that I can quit my job and have time to code and shit
16:08.01CartasHire me to hire you.
16:09.28Tekkubplus WoWWiki looks all clean and spiffy now, I wanna learn how to make nifty wiki pages like that :)
16:14.06Tuplad:O
16:15.50Tupladhttp://plixx.org/?9F Someone teach him how to design
16:16.07[Ammo]clean?
16:16.08[Ammo]spiffy?
16:16.10[Ammo]it's FUCKING UGLY
16:16.16[Ammo]it was ugly and they changed NOTHING
16:16.17[Ammo]:)
16:16.19[Ammo]sorry for caps
16:16.22[Ammo]but BARF
16:16.28Tekkubthanks for the encouragement...
16:16.32iSynicOh my god.  Seriously.  WTB Screen realty.
16:18.10DarkImakuni<PROTECTED>
16:18.20TekkubTHEY ALL HATE ME!
16:18.23Tekkub<PROTECTED>
16:18.32[Ammo]:)
16:19.06Tuplad:>
16:19.21Mikmagg
16:19.46Tekkubmaybe I'll play with wiki templates some more :)
16:19.52[Ammo]main beef I got with it, they had some kind of winner of a contest
16:20.03Tekkubhehe
16:20.19[Ammo]and if that's the design that won
16:20.25[Ammo]I don't want to know the rest
16:20.25AzurewrathTuplad: now that's an ugly screenshot.. bah ;p
16:20.53[Ammo]I see a lot of shit design for websites for my work
16:21.27TupladAzurewrath: :D
16:22.25[Ammo]evl: show me your sorting code before I quickly fix it myself :p
16:24.33[Ammo]giving people a few sorting options should be enough
16:24.49Tupladhaste: oSkin is porn!
16:24.51[Ammo]by insertion and by length should be enough
16:25.28Mikmamoam exploded :(
16:25.33[Ammo]haha
16:25.42[Ammo]moam explosions own
16:27.06[Ammo]I help out our AQ20 raids from time to time
16:27.11[Ammo]jump in to drain
16:28.16AzurewrathTuplad: it's 100% pure porn.. just tested it out a bit ;)
16:28.40HealthIt's not too hard to kill him before spaws
16:28.43Healthspawns
16:28.45Azurewraththe explosions of the mobs behind the Twins own :D
16:30.18GngskTuplad, I'm working on character frame atm :D
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16:30.33[Ammo]those nullifiers are fun
16:30.41[Ammo]but we kill them without explosions
16:30.51Gngskwe split them and let one pop
16:30.54[Ammo]we don't
16:30.57[Ammo]well we split them ok
16:31.00[Ammo]but we don't let one pop
16:31.04[Ammo]it's not needed
16:31.14[Ammo]1 pally, 1 warrior handle 1 away from the raid
16:31.20[Ammo]raid burns down the other then rushes the next
16:31.27TupladGngsk: :O default chra frame?
16:31.28[Ammo]1 pally doesn't give him enough mana to pop
16:31.28TupladAzurewrath: wurd
16:31.36GngskTuplad, yah
16:31.45GngskTuplad, gimmie a few min I'll post a screen
16:31.50TupladGngsk: meh, I dont use it anyway :(
16:31.55TupladGngsk: but I might :O
16:34.59evl[Ammo]: will be a while more, my furniture just came, /afk IKEA hell
16:35.05[Ammo]haha
16:36.34GngskTuplad, not unit frame, the frame you see when you press C (by default)
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16:49.40Gngskhttp://www.titansofazeroth.com/mods/WoWScrnShot_083006_124553.jpg
16:50.23Mikmaneat :D
16:50.47Mikmadon't delete the background from character ;)
16:50.55Mikmamight end up too messy
16:51.11Gngskwhat background?
16:51.59Mikmait has a black background
16:52.08Mikma(the character)
16:52.49GngskI'd like to make it so you can click+drag the char portrait to rotate
16:52.55[Ammo]hrmf, sometimes I hate my coworkers
16:53.07snurrehm.. ora2 autopromotes and durability checks are borked :(
16:53.24[Ammo]snurre: durability works fine for me, you're hallucinating
16:53.45snurreo.O
16:53.51[Ammo]oh and warning
16:53.55snurrei get no response when i do /radur or through menu
16:54.03[Ammo]I hate my coworkers atm because they left me in a _very_ pissy mood
16:54.13[Ammo]I get responses just fine
16:54.16snurre:(
16:54.25snurreill update yet again then, i guess
16:54.31[Ammo]it's been working for weeks
16:54.33[Ammo]haven't changed a thing
16:54.41snurreautopromotes havent worked properly in a long time tho
16:54.54[Ammo]they were fixed yesterday
16:55.02[Ammo]and should work just fine
16:55.06[Ammo]if you're the leader and someone joins
16:55.16[Ammo]they don't correct the stuff yet when you become leader midraid
16:55.20snurre:(
16:55.38[Ammo]nonsense bugreports like these I file immediately as luser errors
16:56.23snurrepfft
16:56.35snurrei feel ignored :(
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16:57.14[Ammo]you're not ignored
16:57.19Mikmasorry
16:57.23[Ammo]it's just that it works for me
16:58.06snurrekinda weird that everyone in my guild has problems with the autopromote usually not working at all
16:58.36snurreeven right now, with freshly updated ora2 it randomly ignores people on autopromote list
16:59.11[Ammo]does it ignore them when you get leader halfway
16:59.51snurreyes, and also when they join the raid
17:00.06[Ammo]it will ignore them if you become halfway, it will ignore them if you're leader and convert to a raid
17:00.12[Ammo]it should not ignore them if they join halfway
17:00.17[Ammo]it hasn't for me
17:00.19Azurewrathoh btw. Ammo, that halfway-autopromote thingie like ctra does it would be great.. if you mind ;)
17:00.33iSynicoRA2 is working excellently for me.  Only issues I've noticed whatsoever was not broadcasting rezzes from released targets and I had a bit of trouble with setting MainTanks but I may attribute that to user error until I look again.
17:00.46[Ammo]it's user error
17:01.00[Ammo]and the console options need changing I guess
17:01.14[Ammo]setting an mt = /ora mt set 1 Ammo
17:01.21[Ammo]via the Fuplugin: 1 Ammo
17:01.34iSynicOkay, yeah it was just the format I was unfamiliar with
17:01.40[Ammo]it's the same as oRA1
17:01.50[Ammo]exactly the same
17:02.01[Ammo]just that the fuplugin for oRA1 is custom
17:02.07[Ammo]and this one just uses the console options
17:02.09iSynicI usually just hit the oRA menu fubar button Kyahx wrote and it automatically added them to the next available MT slot
17:02.10snurrewtb the CTRA interface for setting MTs ;)
17:02.15iSynicThat's why I wasn't familiar with it
17:02.22[Ammo]snurre: go die under a rock :p
17:02.25Azurewrathnah, the oRA1 plugin only wants the name, it adds the MT to the next free slot then.. but i like the oRA2 Syntax better
17:02.38gnorlishyour ora2 branch is good to go ammo?
17:02.38[Ammo]I'll fix the fumenu for ora2
17:02.42gnorlishi've been using ora1
17:02.46[Ammo]depends on what you like
17:02.53[Ammo]and now is not really the time to ask me
17:02.56[Ammo]I'm still kinda seething
17:03.08[Ammo]had a bad argument just now, and recovering from it
17:03.15gnorlishif it's not going to barf on me then i have no problem fooling with it
17:03.23[Ammo]it probably won't barf
17:03.24gnorlishand dealing with occasional bugs
17:03.27[Ammo]it'll probably work
17:03.34[Ammo]it's just not done
17:04.18[Ammo]time to go get home
17:04.19[Ammo]~
17:04.45iSynicIt works for the most part.   Just don't assume everything's going to be perfect yet.
17:06.39Azurewrathgnorlish: it works fine for me, no errors so far and it gets better every day.. i like it. But you should accept that it's still in the works hehe :)
17:09.15MikmaThrae: so, how does the mouseover devtools thingy work?
17:15.01NeronixMikma: Do the command (or keybinding as I like to) and a little window will pop up with info about every frame under the cursor
17:15.41TupladGngsk: ooo
17:15.50TupladGngsk: that looks porn, very porn
17:16.01MikmaNeronix: mm neat
17:16.30Gngsk:)
17:16.58Gngskgot some work to do yet, but those sets of frames should be done by the night
17:18.18Mikmawell, devtools don't show the texture of microbuttons :P
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17:29.58Temugh
17:30.01Temcan I kill this guy yet?
17:30.10Mikmayes
17:30.55Temhe is seriously bitching at me because IDCard is a 2.5KB file instead of a 1.5KB file
17:31.03Mikmaeh
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17:31.18Mikmathat's huuuuuuge. You're fired!
17:31.59Mikmaomg gotta put that up there
17:32.31CairennTem: that'd better not be on my site
17:32.38Temno it's on wowace
17:32.46TemI'm so about to poof all of his posts
17:32.49Temlike.. all of them
17:32.49Cairennnot my problem then, good :p
17:32.51Temnot just in my thread
17:33.33MikmaTem: you a admin on wowace?
17:33.40TemI am
17:33.55Mikmaoh nvm
17:33.59Mikmait disappeared :D
17:34.02Tem(well, moderator, but close enough)
17:34.04Mikma(oRA2)
17:34.19Temwhat about ora2?
17:34.28Mikmathat's spooky. i just watched the post like 2mins ago and now it's gone
17:35.03TemI didn't do it
17:35.05TemI just woke up
17:38.53CIA-1103laotseu * r9563 10AllPlayed/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
17:38.53CIA-11AllPlayed: Initial commit
17:38.53CIA-11- Still alpha, I need to make it work properly without Fubar
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17:43.36Mikmahttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Conanswedensucks.jpg
17:43.47Sarozuhm, bigwigs anub warning is fubar? the warning for swarm is way off
17:44.11Gngskhow many people in your raid have bw and what versions are they running?
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17:45.12Sarozmany and some are old
17:45.19Sarozbut not "that" old
17:46.39GngskI've had sync issues on anub with different versions like that
17:46.55Gngskwell, I can't honestly say they were sync issues
17:47.00Gngskbut, I've had the timer off like that
17:47.24Sarozhrrrm
17:47.29Sarozwill yell at them
17:47.30iSynicI had issues with the timers not resetting (which I attribute to range and not enough players running BigWigs), but I haven't had any sync issues.
17:47.58CIA-1103neronix * r9564 10!!!Libraries/ (!!!Libraries.toc Libs/): !!!Libraries - Added TipLib
17:48.11Gngskwell, at the time our MT was running BW so I chalked it up to sync issues
17:49.56SarozThis couldn't be it:
17:49.56SarozBigWigs: Naxxramas now uses L["corpseseverywher"]
17:49.57Saroz?
17:51.02Sarozit's the only recent change
17:51.04Saroz*shrug*
17:52.59CIA-1103tardmrr * r9565 10CoatHanger/ (. CoatHanger.lua): Coathanger: Adding svn properties to begin Ace2 conversion
17:53.42Sarozit also sends two "Next swarm in 90 secs"
17:53.43Sarozetc etc
17:53.54KebinusanSaroz, no that change didnt change the logic of anything
17:54.20iSynicYou mean, you as an individual are getting two swarm messages, or two people in the raid are broadcasting it?
17:54.55iSynicAlso, are you all using BigWigs2 or are some still on the original BigWigs.  Seems like that could cause double warnings too since they can't sync.  /shrug
17:55.02Saroz1 person is using RaidWarning, and he is sending two of each warning
17:55.09iSynicOdd
17:55.09Sarozatleast the 90 sec one
17:55.17Sarozye
17:55.39KebinusanGetting this in AV : FuBar_BattlegroundFu\BattlegroundFu.lua:630: bad argument #1 to `find' (string expected, got nil)
17:55.43iSynicUnless he's running both versions of BigWigs at the same time.
17:55.53Sarozbigwigs needs a version notify feature, so I can send "UPDATE YOUR FUCKING BIGWIGS" to all with old versions
17:55.57SarozI doubt he is
17:56.18Kebinusanthere is a version check in bw2
17:56.22SarozI know
17:56.36Saroznow I got two warnings locally
17:58.33vhaarrSo use it, then?
17:58.46vhaarrHow can you say "bigwigs needs a version notify feature" if you know there is one already?
17:58.48vhaarrThat doesn't make sense.
17:58.53Sarozit doesn't whisper people
17:58.55Sarozto update
17:59.08vhaarrheh
17:59.12vhaarrAnd it never will.
17:59.16KebinusanSaroz, are you running a spell alert mod maybe?
17:59.20Sarozye
17:59.25Sarozspell alert
17:59.35Sarozbut this is two bigwigs warnings
17:59.35Sarozfor sure
17:59.39SarozI'm not that stupid
17:59.39Saroz:p
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18:00.34iSynicWell, unless Anub'Rekhan is emoting twice I honestly can't imagine why...
18:00.45Sarozit's not a sync'd event?
18:00.46Kebinusanlatency could cause it I suppose
18:01.35iSynicIt'd have to be pretty big latency; BW ignores identical sync messages for a bit after recieving one I was pretty sure.
18:02.07SarozNext swarm in 90 seoncds, twice now
18:02.08Sarozwtf
18:02.16Sarozneed sync debugger
18:04.58CIA-1103theondry * r9566 10SnaFu/ (6 files): SnaFu: some keywords (I hope)
18:09.39KebinusanSaroz, I just tested it by sending a sync message to myself, I only saw it once
18:11.16evlckknight_: around?
18:11.47Kebinusan./script  BigWigsAnubrekhan:BigWigs_RecvSync("AnubLocustInc")
18:12.21Sarozseems to work ya
18:12.23Sarozdunno
18:12.59Kebinusanweird
18:13.26iSynicI don't know what my guild's doing tonight but if we do Anub'Rekhan I'll test too.
18:13.36Kebinusanyou could probably just run transcriptor and see if if the bw event gets called twice
18:14.06Kebinusanbut yeah we killed him last night so I cant really test but what you're saying seems to be a bit familiar with what I was seeing last night
18:14.56Sarozyea killed him now aswell
18:15.15Saroz*shrug*
18:15.15Kebinusanwe were having very bad lag though
18:15.15Kebinusanthe timers were right but I was seeing double warnings
18:15.17Sarozbtw, in AceOptions data table, is there any way to add a "pretty" value to the validate strings?
18:17.18Kebinusanno clue, Im kind uf a nub
18:19.20zombieoob*quaffs potion* I'm way better now!
18:20.53TemsedatedChipmunk, *cheer*
18:20.59TemsedatedChipmunk, TTV works again
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18:26.15yacoobhaha http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3099 :D
18:26.34sedatedChipmunkTem: >8D
18:28.20Temhmm
18:28.29TemFuBar_BattlegroundFu\BattlegroundFu.lua:633: bad argument #1 to `find' (string expected, got nil)
18:28.33TemI get that on zone in
18:29.41CIA-1103saroz * r9567 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesLocals.lua): sRaidFrames: Added option which allows you to set how to sort the members in each group
18:30.23`-FISKER_Q\*pushes for a feature that removes objective tracker from the official ui
18:30.25`-FISKER_Q\*
18:30.39`-FISKER_Q\anyone using oskin yet?
18:31.52CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r9568 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/BattlegroundFu.lua:
18:31.52CIA-11BatFu:
18:31.52CIA-11- Fixed check to be consistent with the argument passed to string.find
18:32.03sedatedChipmunkthere ya go
18:32.31Kebinusanhc, Im pretty sure bulkmail isnt saving defaultdest per profile
18:32.41sedatedChipmunkit isn't
18:32.50sedatedChipmunkpeople wanted it per faction/realm
18:32.57Kebinusanbah people suck
18:33.29KebinusanI look at hacking it locally or somethin maybe
18:33.47KebinusanWould be nice to have Main default dest to mule and vise versa
18:33.57sedatedChipmunkit was a very early ace2 addon; it'll get some love soon
18:34.53`-FISKER_Q\BattlegroundFu needs more love :)
18:34.59KebinusanYeah I know it still needs acegui which needs ace so its sort of a hybrid
18:35.01`-FISKER_Q\TTV back in is nice though
18:35.16`-FISKER_Q\isn't there an Acegui2 out?
18:35.18Kebinusanbut cool, I really like the mod
18:36.25Temit's not ready
18:36.42`-FISKER_Q\oh
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18:40.48snurre-what's the values you can set in aguf custom hp/mana text?
18:40.56snurre-[curhp] etc.. what's the percent one?
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18:45.22TemsedatedChipmunk, for TTV, can you use "Never" instead of ***:***:*** when the other team is getting 5-capped?
18:47.15`-FISKER_Q\"When hell freezes over or pigs can fly" would be even funnier for a detatched tooltip
18:48.13CIA-1103saroz * r9569 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesLocals.lua): sRaidFrames: Add ability to change border color of the frames (pretty!)
18:51.43CIA-1103jncl * r9570 10RogueCounts/ (RogueCounts.lua RogueCounts.toc): RogueCounts: Added Support for Bongos (Latest) and CT_BarMod
18:58.46ckknight_hey all, back
18:59.19ckknight_Tem, that's actually part of AbacusLib
18:59.31Temah
18:59.53phyberckknight_: did you get such lame requests for features on TopScoreFu before?
18:59.53Kebinusanbgfu used to let you scrolld own over on the mouseover menu and click on the flag carrier it doesnt seem to allow that anymore
19:00.02ckknight_phyber, yes.
19:00.09ckknight_phyber, what've you gotten?
19:00.10phyberpeople are asking for Crit percentages, reporting more stuff to people, all kinds of crap.
19:00.21phyber"
19:00.21ckknightoh yes.
19:00.22phyberCan you please code in the %crit like CritLine so I can drop that totally for yours. Also an option to display the Target of the hits would be nice, as an option to select which Attacks are announced. Ie.. I want to tell people my Top Ambush, Eviscerate and Backstab, and who I did them to!"
19:00.30ckknightI just ignored em cause I was too busy
19:00.35evlckknight_: I've been making an AV/AB timers mod ontop of Glory, as far I as understand you can't actually know the timeAttacked if you weren't there when the objective as assaulted?
19:00.51ckknightTopScoreFu isn't about crits, it's about scores
19:00.59Neronixhaste: oUF2 still uses Dewdrop 1.x
19:01.05ckknightevl, don't know.
19:01.30NeronixIn other news, I'm going to pvp for the first time in... 20 levels or so
19:01.33Neronixwish me luck :O
19:01.45dreyruugrckknight: can I pass additional params to MyClass.super.prototype.init(self) ?
19:01.51ckknightyea
19:02.30evlckknight: because glory:GetTimeToCapture barfs hard if you e.g use it via IterateObjectiveNodes because timeAttacked is never registered before BattlefieldObjectiveEventProcessing is run
19:02.44ckknightevl, and I would know this how?
19:02.57ckknighttalk to chip or Elkano
19:03.12evlckknight: ok, sorry just saw you on the authors list :P
19:03.15dreyruugrso to be clear, calling MyClass.super.prototype.init(self, myParamObject) will pass myParamObject as the first argument to the parent classes init function?
19:03.23ckknightyes.
19:03.28dreyruugrsweet :)
19:03.42phyberckknight: I think the only option I might add in is the ability to ignore certain mobs.
19:03.55ckknightphyber, yea, I was gonna, but got too busy
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19:05.56dreyruugrckknight: how would you go about serializing/deserializing an inherited class that uses mixins?
19:06.14Sarozin AceOptions data table, is there any way to add a "pretty" value to the validate strings which turn in to "usage"
19:06.26ckknightdryruugr, it's up to the developer to provide the right Serialize/Deserialize methods
19:06.54ckknightSaroz, don't know what you mean
19:07.31evlsedatedChipmunk: even being sedated, may I bother you with pondersome questions about Glory-Lib?
19:07.31Sarozlike.. validate = {"ctra", "horizontal", "vertical"}, turns in to these, but I want something like "CT_RaidAsssist" to show instead of CTRA, when it's displayed in the fubar menu
19:08.07FtH|eagleit's even in the wiki saroz :P
19:08.13SarozI read it :(
19:08.40FtH|eaglevalidate = {["WARRIOR"] = "Warrior", ["WARLOCK"] = "Warlock", ["DRUID"] = "Druid"}
19:08.53Sarozaha!
19:08.54Sarozty
19:08.55Josh_Borkeckknight: sorry i left yesterday before you could answer my question but:  for anyone who wants to use BabbleLib-1.1, do they need BabbleLib.lua still?
19:08.57FtH|eaglenp
19:09.04dreyruugrckknight: the classes are all my own... what I'm wondering is how to best ser/deser the information from the parent class... like, in the serialization function can I do something like: "return self.super.prototype:Serialize(), self.myData"
19:09.12sedatedChipmunkno, you can't know when it's attacked if you're not there; there are no API functions for battlegrounds stuff.  That's the whole reason we had to write GloryLib
19:09.33ckknightdreyruugr, yea, but lua might not like that
19:09.50dreyruugris there something I can do there that lua might like? :)
19:10.08ckknightyou may want to do return self.myData, MyClass.super.prototype:Serialize()
19:10.28ckknightin case the super Serialize method returns multiple values
19:10.44ckknightJosh_Borke, don't think so
19:10.54dreyruugroh, good point
19:10.55evlsedatedChipmunk: I'll try to write a small patch that will atleast set the values to 0 so the Get functions don't barf so hard
19:11.15sedatedChipmunkthey shouldn't barf
19:11.23sedatedChipmunkthey should be returning nil
19:11.55evlsedatedChipmunk: Well, they can't :) Because 1112: return t - GetTime() + self.battlefieldObjectiveStatus[node].timeAttacked
19:11.59Tupladhttp://www.jinx.com/images/products/328bgBlack.jpg lmfao
19:12.24evlsedatedChipmunk: and battlefieldObjectiveStatus is nil
19:13.10evlsedatedChipmunk: attacker, inConflict and timeAttacked are never initialized to 0 or nil until OnObjectiveClaimed/Attacked/Destroyed
19:13.24sedatedChipmunkyou don't initialize to nil
19:13.33sedatedChipmunkit's implied
19:13.41evlsedatedChipmunk: I'm a lua noob but I suppose it should be 0 then
19:14.28dreyruugrckknight what about dealing with the variable number of arguments in deserialization?
19:14.41ckknightwhat about it
19:14.54ckknightyou have multiple arguments in :Deserialize, then.
19:14.54hyperChipmunkreturn self.battlefieldObjectiveStatus and self.battlefieldObjectiveStatus[node] and t - GetTime() + self.battlefieldObjectiveStatus[node].timeAttacked
19:14.56dreyruugrnot sure how i'd do that... something with the whole arg packing thing?
19:15.13hyperChipmunkhm
19:15.22ckknightdreyruugr, nah, bad idea
19:15.25evlhyperChipmunk: I guess that's it, I've only had problems with it when writing my BG timers which register P_E_W and Iterate
19:15.38ckknightjust do it properly and straight up
19:15.38hyperChipmunklet me tinker it to return nil
19:16.30evlhyperChipmunk: also, are there conditions where the capture time of 302.5 seconds are stretched slightly longer? Especially towers seem to react differently
19:16.52hyperChipmunktimers don't count down until the next server tick
19:16.57hyperChipmunkthere's no way to know when that is
19:17.08evlAha, now I don't have to worry about that :)
19:17.31dreyruugrassume: "return self.myData, TestItem.super.prototype:Serialize()" for the serialize... where super is returning a variable number of arguments.  "function TestItem:Deserialize( myData, ??? )" i'm unclear on what the ??? part should be in the deserialize function
19:17.36hyperChipmunkso you just split the difference and know that the best you can do is 2.5 seconds off
19:18.02evlDoes anyone know if the textureIndex returned from functions like GetMapLandmarkInfo can be used? The refering image contains 16 textures in a tiled set
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19:18.21Neronix_Oh brilliant
19:18.24dreyruugror do I need to explicitly define those values? (seems like I shouldn't have to since I'm not doing so in the serialize function)
19:18.26Neronix_Just about to win and my connection dies
19:18.31Neronix_~whaletubes ISP
19:18.33purlACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into ISP's tubes. ISP's internets no worky :(
19:18.48Mikma~emulate ckknight
19:18.50purlf*ck you, guy
19:18.55Mikmahaha
19:19.16ckknightdreyruugr, explicitly define the values.
19:19.27Mikma~literal emulate ckknight
19:19.29purl"emulate ckknight" is "(<action> quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))|<reply>f*ck you, guy|<reply>You know why? Because you touch yourself at night)"
19:19.33ckknightmaybe you should in the serialize function.
19:19.41Neronixjust as well. I forgot to buy DP and siphon after a respec
19:19.52Neronixand I SOLOED someone
19:19.58NeronixI actually BEAT someone SOLOING
19:20.08evlnice
19:20.17evlI beat warlocks like there was nothing to it after rogue spec
19:20.20NeronixSome rogue, who sapped me twice as I tried to stop her/he/it/kek from invading the base
19:20.28evlGarotte -> Backstab -> Rupture -> Run -> thx bb die nwo
19:20.34phyberI think I'll burn out on supporting this stuff soon.
19:20.34phyberhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4604-.html#cmnt12312
19:20.49evlticks for about 220 for 22 secs
19:21.02ckknightphyber, just tell people to go fuck themselves
19:21.36evlHey, linux people dont' support anyone except their own egos on slashdot and they are sliding into government data centers like there was nothing to it :)
19:21.37TupladevlGarotte -> Backstab -> Rupture -> Run -> thx bb die nwo
19:21.38Tupladwtf ?
19:21.55phyberckknight: I just tell people to upgrade their shit.  it seems all of this is caused by AceLocale differences.
19:22.06Tupladevl: link gear plz kthx
19:22.08phyberbut hey, as long as it works for me, I could care less I guess :)
19:22.16evlTuplad: shadowcraft and 2 pieces of NS :P
19:22.18phyberI can fix my own stuff if it goes wrong ;)
19:22.22ckknightI think I should upload another version of FuBar, so the AceLocale is the same across then board.
19:22.25Tupladevl: how many epix?
19:22.25evlTuplad: 31/8/12 with elusive and initiative
19:22.29maiaJosh_Borke:
19:22.37evlTuplad: 88 max damage in mh, total crap
19:22.50phyberckknight: cool :)
19:22.53evlTuplad: you realize that is the combination of two dots?
19:22.56phyberwould be a good idea.
19:23.01maia(svn is slow tonight)
19:23.02evlTuplad: I don't rupture tick for 220 damage per :P
19:23.06ckknightbut first, a letter to my grandma :-P
19:23.32Tupladevl: :| lets see
19:23.51maiaerr, SVN seems to be down.
19:23.53evlTuplad: Is it that out of the ordinary?
19:23.54iSynicIt's slowed considerably in the last 15 minutes
19:24.20Josh_Borkemaia:
19:24.28Josh_Borkeckknight: thanks
19:24.52maiaJosh_Borke: lol. was waiting for my commit message. redid the options in Squishy
19:25.05Tupladevl: 31/8/12 ?!
19:25.10Josh_Borkemaia: ah, cool
19:25.16hyperChipmunk15:21 < evl> Hey, linux people dont' support anyone except their own egos on slashdot and they are sliding into government data centers like  there was nothing to it :)  <---- funny, I'm pretty sure I just committed a fix at your request
19:25.26phyber*shakes fist angriliy at the 10min timer on attempts to create [Morrowgrain]*
19:25.47evlI didn't request anything, I merely said it barfed on me :)
19:26.01evlbesides, linux is 1995, mac has black laptops now
19:26.05maiaJosh_Borke: there now is a subgroup named "Class options" with petsupport as the only option - but one could add all classes in there as toggle options, checked by default. if you uncheck them, they will be skipped
19:26.27Josh_Borkemaia: question about squishy:GetModifier(name), do you know if there is any performance difference in: 'if (UnitIsPVP('player')) then <blah> else <blah> end' and 'm = m + ((UnitIsPVP('player') and 50) or 10)'?
19:26.36Tupladevl: how can you have 31/8/12 ?
19:26.38maiano idea
19:26.40Josh_Borkemaia: i'll try to do that this weekend :-)
19:26.48Josh_Borkemaia: and try to do performance testing :-)
19:26.59Josh_Borkeyou have a note 'should be optimized' though it looks pretty optimized :-)
19:27.01evlTuplad: now give me a second
19:27.23Josh_Borkehm, you could have a local flag for PvP, rather than calling UnitIsPVP('player') every time...
19:27.34maiatrue
19:27.36hyperChipmunkhm...well I would have committed one if the server was responding
19:27.42evlTuplad: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=iGeMoxzAoGcZAMM
19:27.56maiaalthough I think there wont be a real difference
19:27.59yacoobPosition in queue: 69
19:28.00yacoobHm.
19:28.06Josh_Borkemaia: i agree :-)
19:28.10Tupladevl: nvm, my talent calc bugged >_>
19:28.17Josh_BorkemaiaAFK: it looks really compact and optimized
19:28.20evlTuplad: Lol Potato™
19:28.32evllol http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1156961463044.jpg
19:28.44Tupladevl: imp S&D ? go for imp poison apply
19:29.05evlTuplad: uh no :) then I don't have any raid damage whatsoever
19:29.23ckknightevl, does mac have multi-buttoned laptops, though?
19:29.36Tupladevl: :\ raid dmg ftl
19:29.59Tupladevl: priests outdamage me =D
19:30.00ckknightand I'm not talking about having an external mouse, I mean the mouse built in.
19:30.13evlckknight: Funny you mentioned that, I got stupid and bought the Mighty Mouse from Apple, with it you can't actually use right-click if you have your hand/finger on any other part of the mouse :P
19:30.25ckknightI know
19:30.28ckknightwhich is fucked
19:30.32evlUtterly.
19:30.34ckknightbut I'm talking about the laptops
19:30.37evlThere's not even a switch for it
19:30.39evlckknight: afaik you can program the pad
19:30.48vhaarrmaiaAFK, bah
19:30.54vhaarrmaiaAFK: there?
19:31.01ckknighthow do you mean?
19:31.15ckknightcause, honestly, that's what's really holding me back from buying a mac
19:31.20evlckknight: I think you can set what does what on the pad, like that fancy two zone scrolling etc.
19:31.24ckknightI like my multi-buttoned laptop
19:31.45ckknightso I can use it as if it has a left and right click?
19:31.47ckknightor not?
19:32.04maiaAFKvhaarr: sec, phone.
19:32.14evlckknight: i'm not 100% sure, I'll check it tomorrow, we have lots of designers with fancy laptops with cool stickers on em
19:32.23ckknightalright
19:32.24ckknightthanks
19:33.28andreasganyway
19:33.32andreasgI know bad habits die hard
19:33.46andreasgbut they designed the UI so you won't have to use right click, ever
19:33.52evlckknight: http://digg.com/apple/15_MacBook_Pro_Secondary_Trackpad_Click , http://macnewsblog.com/2006/05/can_your_macbook_pro_do_this.html , http://forum.onmac.net/showthread.php?t=928 ,
19:34.03evlckknight: seems you can on the new pro's
19:34.24ckknightwhat's the cost of a good one?
19:34.51evldunno; i just get my stupid boss to pay for one
19:34.58evl"uh I need 2gb of ram because i need to open big files"
19:35.00evl"mmmkay"
19:35.24ckknightI don't have a boss, I work for myself
19:35.44andreasgI would recommend the configuration at $2,499.00
19:35.57andreasgbut it depends what you need it for really
19:36.03ckknightI was hoping for more in the 1200-1500 range
19:36.22andreasgif you don't need more than intel buildin graphics you can go for the non-pro
19:36.38ckknighthrm, I would like to play WoW
19:36.40ckknightnow here's the clincher, evl, would the dual-button mouse work in Bootstrapped Windows?
19:36.45ckknightbut probably not more than WoW
19:36.51evlckknight: probably or you can input map it
19:36.56ckknightalright
19:37.02evlckknight: trick i've heard from many is buy the crap gfx card and the low mem and just buy mem and gfx off bulk from some netshop
19:37.13evli paid 100$ for 2gb for my laptop
19:37.18ckknightnice
19:37.23evlfrom dell it's 600$
19:37.30evlBASTARDS
19:37.33andreasgevl: you can't replace the graphics accellerator, if that's what you're talking about
19:37.39ckknightI need to get more work, and thus more money
19:37.42evlandreasg: sure?
19:37.48andreasgyes, it's a laptop
19:37.56evlI can on my dell
19:37.59evland on my Lenovo
19:38.18evlHow were Apple planning on servicing it then?
19:38.27evlAnd how can they support more than one gfx board per laptop model
19:38.43andreasgI don't know, but my guess is that laptop graphics stuff is chip on the mainboard
19:39.20andreasgsoldered
19:39.20evlandreasg: what's this then? http://www.clubmac.com/clubmac/shop/detail~dpno~7099356~name~ATI+Radeon+X1900+XT+Graphics+Upgrade+Kit+for+Mac+Pro~mfg~MA631Z%2FA.asp
19:39.21evl;)
19:39.31andreasgevl: that's for the Mac Pro?
19:39.43evlandreasg: arf, i will prove you wrong! google is my friend
19:40.28andreasganyway, if you want to play wow but don't want to spend as much maybe going to for the 1,999 dollar Macbook pro is the best
19:40.58andreasgI wouldn't recommend the Mac (non-pro) if you want to game, as intel integrated really is the suck
19:41.02ckknightwhy are macs so expensive :-P
19:41.07Tupladthey rock
19:41.26evlandreasg: you're right :( It's soldered
19:41.29ckknightsee, I'm not a gamer, but sometimes I like to chill out and play a game or two
19:41.30evlandreasg: http://eshop.macsales.com/Reviews/Framework.cfm?page=/hardwareandnews/mbp1520/mbp1520.html
19:41.34ckknightmostly WoW
19:41.48evlckknight: the 1999 will play wow perfectly
19:41.53andreasgyes
19:41.54evlckknight: the engine is almost 5 years old.
19:42.06ckknighthrm, but I only have $540 in my wallet now.
19:42.08evlYou won't be getting 60FPS in HL2 all-guns-blazing
19:42.22ckknightah, no thanks, I'm not an FPSer
19:42.26andreasgevl: actually, you will, almost
19:42.44ckknightmy next big obsessive game will be something Blizzard put out, anyway
19:42.48ckknightSC2 ftw.
19:42.51ckknight:-P
19:42.53ckknighthehe
19:42.58andreasgI can't wait for CC3 :P
19:43.08evlckknight: most of the GPU intensive stuff in WoW is things like multisampling, bloom effects etc which doesn't have a significant visual impact
19:43.25ckknightso MacBook Pro?
19:43.25evlI've raided MC on a white 12" Macbook :)
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19:44.10CIA-1103saroz * r9571 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesLocals.lua: sRaidFrames: Pretty up the option values
19:44.12ckknightI need to work more.
19:44.23andreasganyway, the point is: ALL macbooks (non-pro) uses intel integrated, all macbook PROs uses the x1600. the macbooks are in the range of 1099-1499, and the cheapest macbook pro is 1999
19:44.33evlckknight: I think it's a very nice machine, this dell is my last PC. There is no reason to not have a mac since OSX has far superior productivity apps and with that whateverit'scalledapp you can just alt-tab into windows without booting
19:44.49ckknightParallels
19:44.51ckknightyea.
19:44.54evlYeah.
19:45.06ckknightI am seriously considering buying a mac next time around
19:45.07yacoobany addon to explore variables?
19:45.25andreasgyacoob: I think there is a fubar plugin that can probe tables
19:45.25ckknightthough it may be a year from now
19:45.31ckknightI got this PC a year ago
19:45.33maiavhaarr: back.
19:45.38ckknightand I have ... issues with it
19:45.45andreasgckknight: you would be best off by waiting, as they're putting Core 2 in the laptops very soon
19:45.51ckknightmostly, I don't like Windows, but I can't play WoW in linux
19:45.59evlckknight: same here, I don't hear any good counterpoints not too, the price isn't that insane anymore and I really enjoy a properly tuned system without driver problems etc.
19:46.01ckknightCore 2?
19:46.08evlckknight: Lot's of people play WoW in linux afaik?
19:46.11ckknightevl, right
19:46.11Azurewrathcore 2 duo
19:46.13maiaandreasg: the new chips will be added within the next 4 weeks.
19:46.16ckknightevl, not on ATI cards.
19:46.28ckknightwhat's Core 2?
19:46.29andreasgmaia: yes... so buying this month is a bad idea :)
19:46.32ckknightprocessor?
19:46.34andreasgyes
19:46.36ckknightalright
19:46.38yacooband questFu still doesn't show any options. Fresh zip from svn zips
19:46.39maiastrongly suggest to look at http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
19:46.41andreasgthe successor to Core Duo
19:46.41evlckknight: ah I see, not a big linux fan myself, I tend to need things like photoshop and other puffy apps :P
19:46.43Azurewrathckknight: Core 2 Duo is the Pentium D successor
19:46.51ckknightevl, gimp fan here.
19:46.54Azurewrathnice power-saving dual-core cpu
19:47.11maiaCore 2 Duo is the 64bit chip, the new platform, while Core 2 (Yonah) actually only is the old chip in a smaller die.
19:47.12yacoobgimp lacks some feature, yet is insanely useful and well done
19:47.13Azurewrathor.. more the Pentium M successor
19:47.31ckknightI wanna go work for Blizzard. that'd be pimp.
19:47.36andreasgAzurewrath: be careful what you say, there actually is a intel netburst CPU branded Pentium D, which has nothing to do with the Merom/Core CPU =)
19:47.43evlckknight: Problem is all our designers are on mac and use photoshop, Gimp doesn't implement the PSD format upgrades quickly enough to be a solid alternative and it's color handling is just bullshit :(
19:47.44maiaProduct:MacBook Pro
19:47.44maiaLast Release:April 24, 2006
19:47.44maiaDays Since Update: 128 (Average = 104)
19:47.44maiaRecommendation:Don't Buy - Updates soon
19:47.58ckknightevl, yea, but I'm not a designer.
19:48.00yacoobevl: and it doesn't have adjustment layers.
19:48.06CIA-1103laotseu * r9572 10AllPlayed/readme.txt: AllPlayed: corrections in the readme.txt
19:48.09evlyacoob: hear, hear!
19:48.25Azurewrathandreasg: hehe, i did not say that.. the Pentium D is mostly the Dual-Core Version of the P4 :)
19:48.27evlckknight: Me neither, but I have to work with them. I really like coding on the mac too btw :)
19:48.38Azurewrathbut Pentium 4 sucks anyway
19:48.53yacoobbut anyway, there's native wow client for mac osx.
19:48.54ckknightone other question:
19:49.02ckknightwill I have issues with video codecs at all?
19:49.08evlnope
19:49.10evlvlc ftw
19:49.11ckknightalright
19:49.17andreasgWMV needs a 3rd party app
19:49.22evlnot with vlc
19:49.30ckknightisn't there that Qt plugin?
19:49.31CIA-1103maia * r9573 10Squishy/ (6 files): Squishy: redid options table
19:49.36andreasgckknight: yep
19:49.40evlckknight: yes, it's nice
19:49.40andreasgthat's what I'm talking about
19:49.46maiackknight: yes, tehre is
19:50.02evlsay what you want but QuickTime, the way it streams, seeks, feels is just fucking superior to any other crap out there.
19:50.12maiackknight: I think the only program not available on OSX is the mpq extractor ;)
19:50.33evlmaia: Mono.NET would solve that rather quickly if someone bothered :)
19:50.38maiabut as you can always boot windows, thats not a problem.
19:50.42andreasganyway I suggest everyone to go install something called "UNO", as it removes all those shitty inconsistencies between application looks (brushed metal, aqua)
19:50.46evlmaia: or run paralellis
19:50.52maiayeah
19:50.57evlwhich everyone does now I guess
19:51.02ckknightMono.NET does not exist, so you know
19:51.04ckknightit's just Mono
19:51.10maiaI'm waiting to replace my old iBook by the new MBP too.
19:51.25evlmaia: I think there's a big speedbump coming up afaik?
19:51.50maiaevl: well, the Core2 duo notebook processors have been introduced a week ago, so we'll see them soon in the MBP
19:51.58evlwhat I thought :)
19:52.00ckknightwhat makes me comfortable about the new Macbooks is that if I ever get pissed off at OS X, there's still Windows and Linux if I want
19:52.09maiaevl: the next speedbump is the new motherboard platform, scheduled for early 2007.
19:52.19evlckknight: what's so darn cozy is that you can run all of it in Parallelis at the same time
19:52.28yacoobis there something to replace party spotter? (map pin coloring)
19:52.48ckknightevl, aw, now I want one.
19:52.50maiaand, if you have seen the Leopard preview, you won't want to ever use Vista anyway ;p
19:52.52Thraeyacoob: Party Spotter isn't too bad
19:52.59evlVista is doomed
19:53.07evlyou can't support a desktop os with all that corporate shit
19:53.24evlIt's like with XP Pro, clicking a folder kicks off something like 50 reads
19:53.32andreasgas DX10 won't be backported for windows XP, all gamers will run out and buy Vista...
19:53.48andreasgor pirate it
19:53.52andreasg:p
19:53.56ThraeI need a new laptop. I was thinking of buying one soon. Should I wait on Macs? I want a Mac because I already have a good Windows and a good Linux platform, and I'd think Macs would have better battery life.
19:54.07maiaandreasg: new topic, now as you're back. Planning to add these core changes in agUF someone posted in your thread?
19:54.15andreasgyes maia
19:54.16yacoobThrae: it eats up memory too fast, I think.
19:54.24maiaThrae: wait for the new MBP, should be released within the next 4 weeks.
19:54.27andreasgI think I wrote that in the thread too
19:54.38maiaah, didnt read it in the past 24hrs
19:54.38andreasgjust haven't had the time, just got home from vacation and I will be away in the weekend
19:54.52ThraeYeah I wasn't going to buy one in September, I like to wait at least 2-3 months before spending anything over $100
19:55.16ThraeWhen it comes to electronics anyway...damn Moore's Law
19:55.25maiaThrae: well, Apple notebooks dont get cheaper with time. They release a new model at a set price, and the model will cost the same until the new model is released.
19:55.38maiaso it's recommended to buy whenever something is released.
19:55.40evlBut OSX software is just so nice
19:55.51andreasgmaia: actually, they've become cheaper
19:56.15andreasglike 500-1000 dollars across the board over two years
19:56.20ckknightWhat does Leopard have over the last one?
19:56.56andreasgmost things are still secret
19:57.00maiackknight: http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/
19:57.19maiabut yeah, the important stuff is still secret
19:57.19maialike probably a new finder.
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19:57.38andreasgspaces and improved spotlight seems to be the best stuff yet though
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19:57.49yacoobHeh.
19:57.54evllol, that timemachine is also INSANE :D
19:57.54maiackknight: rumors are, they might also move to ZFS
19:58.04maiatimemachine is just a GUI for rsync backups.
19:58.10yacoobIt looks like FuBar_Panel does not exist withing my client. And FuBar works. Wth?
19:58.11andreasgTime machine looks really advanced too, and fun, but real men doesn't take backups:(
20:00.01Thraeyacoob: FuBar plugins can use an embedded library called FuBarPlugin and exist without FuBar even installed.
20:00.09yacooblocal FuBar_Panel = FuBar_Panel
20:00.09yacoob_G.FuBar_Panel = nil
20:00.14yacoobthat explains things.
20:00.31Neronixd'oh
20:00.51Neronixckknight: Yacoob and I need a way to access panel instances
20:01.09Neronixso we can hook UpdateTexture in panel 2
20:01.10yacoobNeronix: FuBar:GetPanel(id)
20:01.15Thraemaia: It's not about cheapness, it's about making sure you're getting the most for your money. The older things are, the more information the public has on them just from mass personal experimentation ;)
20:01.17yacoob(it seems)
20:01.20Neronixah, brilliant
20:01.26ckknightyep.
20:01.30ckknighthow come, btw?
20:01.34Mikmammm
20:01.37Mikmaleopard
20:01.46Mikmaand i still use 10.3
20:01.46NeronixYacoob wants no background on one of his panels, not all
20:02.09Neronixyacoob: Replace FuBar_Panel.instances[2] with FuBar:GetPanel(2) then
20:02.33CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r9574 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua:
20:02.33CIA-11Glory-2.0:
20:02.33CIA-11- GetTimeAttacked() now returns nil if the timeAttacked value for the node has not yet been set
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20:02.47yacoobNeronix: testing it atm.
20:03.03CIA-1103saroz * r9575 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesLocals.lua: sRaidFrames: Add a few "disabled" logic to the options
20:03.10ckknightNeronix, ah, okay
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20:03.54ckknightleopard's 64-bit, neat
20:04.12ThraeNot GetTimeUnderAttack? Hehe
20:04.12maiackknight: want me to bug you regarding the problem of non-reappearing minimap icons after reenabling an addon again, ckk? :)
20:04.14yacoobNeronix: well. Good news, and bad news. The bottom bar is the way I want, but no plugins whatsoever :)
20:04.28ckknightmaia, not right now, I gotta deposit a check soon
20:05.10hyperChipmunker, GetTimeToCapture
20:05.37ThraehyperChipmunk: Then what's GetTimeAttacked() ?
20:06.44yacoobNeronix: heh. 4 frames, not 5.
20:07.07yacoobNeronix: I have *exactly* 4. 1024 pixels is the screen width, texture is 256.
20:10.20yacoobckknight: why do I end up with 4 texture frames for fubar, when there's local backdropsPerPanel = ceil(GetScreenWidth() / 256)
20:12.09Neronix1024/256 = 4
20:12.18Neronixtextures are 256
20:12.26Neronixso you need 4 bg textures
20:12.43hyperChipmunkit just returns the, uh, time that the node was last attacked
20:13.16hyperChipmunkit's pretty complicated; it's okay if you don't understand
20:13.38Thraemaia: Does RosterLib internally index its table by player name?
20:13.55maiaThrae: yes
20:13.58yacoobNeronix: yes, and there are four. But above line sets backdropsPerPanel to 5... no matter how illogical it is.
20:14.13ckknightyacoob, no, since 1024/256 = 4
20:14.17ckknightceil(4) == 4
20:14.26yacoobckknight: hold on
20:14.28ckknightceil(4.00001) == 5
20:14.36Thraemaia: What about cross bgs and characters with the same name in the same name from different servers?
20:14.52Thraes/in the same name/in the same raid/
20:14.56yacoob/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage( ceil ( GetScreenWidth()  / 256 ) )
20:15.01yacoob...and I get 5.
20:15.03yacoob8)
20:15.08maiaThrae: good question. I never checked if UnitName(id) returns the name or the name with server suffix.
20:15.16maiaprobably not
20:15.27CIA-1103jncl * r9576 10RogueCounts/RogueCounts.lua: RogueCounts: One day I'll remember to turn off Debugg before committing my changes :)
20:15.35maiaThrae: well, its the same problem we're having with pets that have the same name.
20:15.45Thraemaia: From working with TinyTip, I can tell you UnitName with 1.12 returns the name and optionally the server as two seperate arguments
20:16.22Josh_Borkemaia: rumor has it RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE is broken in 1.12 again, ie you don't get raid info when you log in
20:16.36maiaJosh_Borke: never had that problem in 1-12 so far
20:16.48yacoobckknight: heh. GetScreenWidth returns 1137.77
20:16.49Josh_Borkeko
20:17.03Thraemaia: I suggest since it happens -very rarely-, I suggest just making a table for collisions and iterating over this table.
20:17.05ckknightyacoob, so you have 5 textures, then.
20:17.13maiaThrae: well, if you find a way to add support for multiple names, please do so.
20:17.16ckknightcause you have a uiscale thingy
20:17.30maiaI just don't want to spend another 20 hours staring at a code I can hardly test.
20:17.50yacoobckknight: how come referring to FuBarFrame2Texture5 fails then?
20:18.02ckknightcause you touch yourself at night
20:18.16ckknightI don't know
20:18.52Elkanomaia, mind putting RosterLib on SVN in a better ordered directory strukture? eg trunk/RosterLib/RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.lua
20:18.57yacoobAmusing thing.
20:19.30Elkanotekkub added a toc to make it standalone and now the tok is checked out with the externals messing up svn's auto zip descriptions
20:20.46TekkubI didn't add the toc, maia did
20:20.51ckknightokay, what's the native resolution for the Macbook Pro?
20:21.00Tekkuband did it all ass-backwards
20:21.15ckknightalternatively, back-asswards
20:21.27Tekkubinstead of fixing it right and changing the externals in the other mods....
20:21.29maiaElkano: I don't really know how to change the folder structure without breaking existing addons. But if you find a way, go ahead.
20:21.44Tekkubmaia, break them
20:21.54ckknightor just do a copy
20:21.55Tekkubwhat uses roster? Squishy...
20:21.57Tekkubwhat else?
20:22.03ckknightdo a grep on trunk
20:22.05ckknightthat's what I do
20:22.06ElkanoGuildFu, FriendsFu
20:22.19maiaTekkub: Detox, AoFHeal, oRA2,...
20:22.23ckknightand anyone not on trunk can blow me
20:22.28ckknighttherefore, just fix everything on trunk
20:22.29maiackknight: I'd need to check out the entire trunk then.
20:22.30ckknightand you'll be fine
20:22.36Tekkubproblem with a copy is that the old version where everyone's externals are will not get updates
20:22.38ckknightmaia, be sure to check out without externals
20:22.44maialol
20:22.47ckknightI've done that.
20:22.53ckknightfor logistical analysis
20:22.59ckknightand random grepping
20:23.01TekkubI think clad will allow it for this :)
20:23.08ckknightjust don't get externals
20:23.11ckknightit'll be a lot better.
20:23.12maiayeah
20:23.39ckknightevl/andreasg, ping
20:23.46andreasgpong
20:23.49ckknighteither of you know the resolution of a 15.4" mac?
20:23.56andreasg1440x900
20:23.56Tekkubding...
20:23.58andreasgI thibnk
20:24.02maiawell, still, my time is *very* limited beginning tomorrow for the next 4 weeks, and as I don't care about the !!!Libraries folder myself (why would someone want to install 40 libraries that all do stuff even if your addons dont need them all?), someone else might have to make the change.
20:24.29Tekkubthe libraries thing is there to shut the dumb users up
20:24.30Tekkub:)
20:24.39maiackknight: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html
20:24.42Tekkubthe ones that don't want embeds, but don't want to update dependancies
20:24.43Mikmaoh man this is soooooooo stupid
20:24.46ckknightthanks, maia
20:24.56Tekkubaka, the fucksmudges I don't want using my mods in the first place
20:25.01Mikmaguildleader and other officers are whispering me and saying to me in raid "Go and get the UBRS buff!!!"
20:25.02ckknightMikma, ?
20:25.03Elkanook, shall I put the libs used by RosterLib into a libs dir or store them in the top folder?
20:25.06andreasgckknight: it is 1440x900 =)
20:25.07Mikmawe're doing vael atm
20:25.20Mikmaand the funny thing is i'm usually the last priest dying WITHOUT the fucking buff
20:25.26maiaTekkub: well, then there's little reason to spend an evening to change the RosterLib folder structure, is there? ;)
20:25.48TekkubI find consistancy a good reason
20:25.51GngskMikma, you need to get that buff noob
20:25.57MikmaGngsk: no, i don't
20:25.59Tekkubroster is inconsistant with all the other libs in the SVN
20:26.01Mikmai have never needed it at vael
20:26.02FryGuyi'm thinking a script that runs after you download an addon to extract the libs into a seperate folder manually would work
20:26.07GngskMikma, but, but...it's the instant win!
20:26.17Mikmagood for the ones that get it
20:26.17Tekkuband it sounds like it's breaking the auto-zip descriptions?
20:26.26Mikmai'm fine with my 39FR
20:26.43TekkubFry... extract... no
20:26.45maiaTekkub: possible, but I won't do it myself.
20:26.58Tekkubtell you what libraries you need to install, yes
20:27.10Tekkubmaia, do this....
20:27.10maiaTekkub: this is a community with lots of people with SVN access. people can step up and do some stuff themselves.
20:27.25Tekkubcopy it into a new, correct path
20:27.27Josh_Borkelies!
20:27.43maiaTekkub: I'll do it once you release CorkFu2.
20:27.43Josh_Borkei can't do anything meself
20:27.45ckknightokay, one last question: would the laptop have any issues connecting to an external monitor, e.g. my projector?
20:27.46maiadeal?
20:27.47Tekkubchange the old version to spit out a message at the user that he mod needs it's externals fixed
20:27.55vhaarrmaia: in the squishy menu there is an option "Hidden", try clicking it twice
20:28.06Tekkubdamn you demanding people!
20:28.18vhaarrmaia: I mean /squishy hide
20:28.19maiackknight: think there's a DVI connector, but you can buy some other cables for 30ish US$
20:28.26ckknightalright
20:28.27vhaarrmaia: when you unhide it, it attaches to the minimap
20:28.32ckknightfair enough
20:28.42maiavhaarr: well, thats a stupid FuBarPlugin option, it won't hide it, but do the minimap crap
20:28.44Tekkuboh yea... ckk.. had a thought...
20:28.49maiackknight needs to rename that.
20:28.59vhaarrmaia: it hides it first, and then attaches it to the minimap when you unhide it
20:29.13maia(as you can notice I'm tired of people asking me - I had like 20 guildies whispering me that last raid)
20:29.19Tekkubmaybe we could have a "isStubPlugin" for things like BigWigs and Squishy that would make this "Hide/Active crap less confusing...
20:29.38ckknightum
20:29.39ckknight:-P
20:29.54Tekkubso it'd show "Hide FuBar|Minimap button"
20:29.57maia(plus about 5 whispered: WTF, I clicked "active" and now Squishy is gone!! WTF, reloaded UI didnt work too! WTF, even /squishy standy doesnt help)
20:30.11Tekkuband not show the "Active" thing
20:30.25Tekkubor reword "Active" somehow
20:30.38ckknightI think Active should be reworded
20:30.38vhaarrmaia: and then I get spammed with " Squishy\core.lua:550: attempt to perform arithmetic on field `aggromodifier' (a nil value)"
20:30.53`-FISKER_Q\can a blastwaves daze be dispelled?
20:30.56vhaarrmaia: and 595: healmodifier
20:31.05maiavhaarr: what, the hide button did that?
20:31.17yacoobgood bye, DFM and DART. I hope I won't miss you :)
20:31.19vhaarrmaia: I just got spammed by it and had to deactivate squishy to stop it
20:31.31vhaarrmaia: after hiding, unhiding and unchecking "attach to minimap"
20:31.44CIA-1103tekkub * r9577 10RosterLib/: RosterLib - Creating new path to fix this crap...
20:31.54maiavhaarr: well, I told you, thats FuBarPlugin stuff noone understands.
20:32.03_icetrainIs there any way of hiding the chatframe tabs so they never show?
20:32.15CIA-1103tekkub * r9578 10RosterLib/RosterLib-2.0/: RosterLib - Copying current version to new path
20:32.22ckknight_icetrain, simple chat?
20:32.49maiackknight: how about not showing the option in the minimap icon if FuBar isnt installed?
20:32.58ckknightwhich option
20:33.12maiathe Hide option. Or Active. I'm confused myself.
20:33.23ckknightmaia,
20:33.23ckknightquick fix:
20:33.26maiaya?
20:33.28ckknightoptionsTable.args.standby = nil
20:33.33`-FISKER_Q\anyone else gotten a transparent "Wing buffet" in bigwigs?
20:33.51maiackknight: but this won't allow to put the addon in standby mode ever, right?
20:34.03_icetrainstill want different chat windows docked justnot show the tabs, gonna switch the tabs with another addon :)
20:34.03ckknightjust put that in an if statement
20:34.12ckknightif not FuBar then optionsTable.args.standby = nil end
20:34.12ckknighttada
20:34.13CIA-1103tekkub * r9579 10RosterLib/ (RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.toc RosterLib-2.0.toc):
20:34.13CIA-11RosterLib
20:34.13CIA-11- Moving TOC up to root library folder
20:34.15maiackknight: I just think all the options that work if you are uing FuBar but make no sense without should be hidden
20:34.46maiackknight: well, then people without FuBar can't standby Squishy with /squishy standby either.
20:34.47vhaarrmaia: well these errors are spammed by squishy
20:34.48ckknightI think Active/Hide are valid without FuBar
20:34.51NeronixHaha, brilliant
20:35.02Neronixfirst ever AB and I somehow help to win 2k/200
20:35.10Sarozmaexxna could use a few more timers IMO
20:35.11ckknightmaia, then do guiHidden = true
20:35.11NeronixLaggy as fuck, but just as fun!
20:35.14maiackknight: what does "Hide" really do without FuBar?
20:35.29ckknightmaia, it hides it without putting it on standby
20:35.42maiait hides what, the minimap icon?
20:35.57ckknightyea
20:36.12maiaand you can get it back via /squishy hide?
20:36.13ckknightHide only exists if .hideWithoutStandby is true
20:36.17ckknightyea
20:36.33maiaguess I should set hideWithoutStandby to false.
20:38.03maiaSquishy.hideWithoutStandby = FuBar and true or false ?
20:38.05ckknightit's up to you
20:38.39ckknightmaybe "Hide" should turn into "Hide FuBar button"
20:38.42ckknightor what have you
20:38.56ckknight(or "Hide minimap button" if on the minimap)
20:39.14CIA-1103maia * r9580 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: hiding the "Hide" option for people without FuBar
20:39.15maiayeah
20:40.17maiackknight: think you should commit that wording change to FuBarPlugin
20:40.33ckknightsomeone else do it or file a bug
20:40.39ckknightI have to go to the dentist in 5 minutes
20:40.48andreasgSVN is acting up
20:40.49maiaI know what happened if I file a bug for FuBarPlugin ;p
20:40.56Mikmaomg the whine
20:40.58andreasgkeeps giving me random cannot resolve svn.wowace.com
20:41.00maiayou then tell me you need to write a letter to your grandma first.
20:41.03Tekkuboh and maia, Squishy doesn't track party members after a reloadui.... I'm guessing RosterLib isn't populating correctly?
20:41.03maia:)
20:41.07Mikmawell fuck them i ain't getting any buffs
20:41.10Tekkubit'll start if the party members change
20:41.14ckknightmaia, hey, she sent me birthday money
20:41.19maia;)
20:41.26ckknightI want a mac now.
20:41.37maiaTekkub: so reloadui doesnt even send a PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED now?
20:41.47TekkubI don't know...
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20:42.11TekkubI thought I saw something about not sending RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE if not in a raid now
20:42.22maiawell, on AceEvent_FullyInitialized it will populate the roster
20:42.38maiaI thought that once that event fires all party data is available
20:42.45maiaas all raid data is available that moment too.
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20:43.25`-FISKER_Q\btw Neronix
20:43.27Thraemaia: Cide says Blizzard borked RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE in 1.12, it no longer fires upon login or reload
20:43.31`-FISKER_Q\you knew somethiing about that crash i had?
20:43.37Tekkub*shrug* all I know is I reloadui a lot, and I'm losing my party when I do
20:43.46ThraePerhaps they changed the way party and raid updates are sent out
20:43.54maiaThrae: yeah, but the real problem seems to be that AceEvent_FullyInitialized isnt triggered when party data is available
20:43.58Sarozthat's not a big though
20:44.00Sarozafaik
20:44.12Sarozbug*
20:44.24ThraeThere is no event right now which tells you when party data is available
20:44.34ThraeYou just have to keep checking with an OnUpdate script
20:44.36ckknightright now ;-)
20:44.40Sarozthats not true
20:44.41ckknightwe could always add one.
20:44.56ThraeWell, this is according to Cide.
20:46.20maiawell, AceEvent_FullyInitialized fires when all chat channels have been joined, its about the last event that fires on login. party data should be available by then.
20:46.59CIA-1103tekkub * r9581 10RosterLib-2.0/ (RosterLib-2.0.lua RosterLib-2.0.toc):
20:46.59CIA-11RosterLib (old path)
20:46.59CIA-11- Removed TOC
20:46.59CIA-11- Now whines at the user to get the mod's external fixed to the new path
20:47.07maiabut either GetNumPartyMembers() sends 0 that moment, or the units dont have names yet.
20:48.11Mikmaroflcopter
20:48.22Mikma70% of our raid was exploded by an idiot
20:48.36Mikmai can only ask, for THAT i would have needed the ubrs buff?
20:48.39yacoobday as usual
20:48.46maiackknight: didnt you change the schedule for AceEvent_FullyInitialized a while back, aka its either sent after 4 seconds (when logging in) or after one second on reloaduis?
20:48.51CIA-1103tekkub * r9582 10Squishy/libs/:
20:48.51CIA-11Squishy
20:48.51CIA-11- Fixed RosterLib external to new path
20:49.07ckknightmaia, and I changed it after that, it's about 1 second after ReloadUI now
20:49.14ckknightand about 1-2 seconds on normal login
20:49.27ckknightmaia, I have no qualms with altering it to make your party dealy show up
20:49.28maiackknight: maybe the 1sec after reloadui is too short.
20:49.38maiaits tekkubs party ;)
20:49.48CIA-1103tekkub * r9583 10Squishy/Squishy.toc:
20:49.48CIA-11Squishy
20:49.49CIA-11- TOC was missing OptDep to RosterLib
20:50.10maiahavent been in a party for ages. my guild has about 4ppl during off-peak hours online. :(
20:50.14ThraeMikma: It's all a balancing act -- making sure your brilliant players compensate for your stupid ones ;)
20:50.25maiaTekkub: thanks, btw.
20:51.10MikmaThrae: *BOOM!*
20:51.42Tekkub:P
20:53.38maiaTekkub: I think a reason I never touched the folder structure was that my svn gui shows different icons for libraries with the correct path. And it feels like they are somewhat special, have been created differently, I dunno. see yourself: http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2606/iconszu3.png
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20:54.09maiaor maybe the folder icon just changes to the other icon once theres only one file in it.
20:54.11Josh_Borkeyou're svn gui is ugly maia :-D
20:54.22Josh_Borkes/you're/your/
20:54.26maiaJosh_Borke: its SVNX, the only svn client I found on OSX.
20:54.33eternally777Woot, I'm talking in IRC on a Linux box, after 3 days of devoted effort! :D
20:54.37Tekkubahso... yea they are "special" but the structure doesn't work all that well with our use of externals really
20:54.53Tekkuband having many TOC files in one addon folder seems messy to me...
20:55.03CIA-1103thrae * r9584 10ThraeFuncs/ (ThraeDruid.lua ThraeFuncs.lua): ThraeFuncs -- Some bug fixes
20:55.15Tekkubplus look at SpecialEvents... I don't want those all seperate paths/addons
20:55.23maiaJosh_Borke: but my favourite editor, TextMate, now has SVN support.
20:55.35ckknightwhy was I globally noticed about Gentoo 2006.1?
20:55.46maiaTekkub: yeah. but are you using a different svn command to create such folders?
20:55.55ag`ckknight, we all were
20:56.00ckknightyea
20:56.01ckknightbut _why_
20:56.02Tekkubdifferent command?
20:56.05Gngskhappy mayhem day!
20:56.11TupladWhat was the Clique auto rank healing again ?
20:56.13Gngsklet's everyone spam their channel
20:56.15Tupladclique.EmergencyHeal() ?
20:56.26ag`ckknight, because if you're not compiling from source from stage one, you're lacking e-peen
20:56.31GngskTuplad, don't think click does that.
20:56.57ckknightag`, ah, stage 3 ftw
20:56.58eternally777But I just finished installing Gentoo 2006.0!  It took me three days!  And now I have to upgrade?!
20:57.00Josh_Borkeag`: i compile from source from stage one :-D
20:57.03eternally777~roulette
20:57.05purlACTION watches eternally777 pull the trigger:  Click!
20:57.06Josh_Borkelol eternally777
20:57.07TupladGngsk: it does
20:57.20eternally777What are the chances of that happening...
20:57.27GngskTuplad, I seriously doubt it!
20:57.33ckknight~roulette
20:57.34purlACTION watches ckknight pull the trigger:  Click!
20:57.37ag`eternally777, hm.. I would think that they update packages on the fly or something
20:57.38maiaeternally777: just do a deep emerge to get all your new stuff.
20:57.43ag`so must of your software is new
20:57.47Mikma~tryme
20:57.48purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. A whale named Theodore who is the size of a small country flies into the target's face
20:57.48ag`but I dunno
20:58.03eternally777Orly?  It's that easy?
20:58.03TupladGngsk: it really does
20:58.07TupladGngsk: I did it, I just forgot the function ;<
20:58.15eternally777This console font is awesome, tbh.
20:58.42Josh_BorkeGngsk: it does
20:58.45maiaeternally777: yeah, the "Gentoo 2006.0" is just a label. its like saying "svn.wowace.com revision 9524 = Ace2006.0"
20:58.50Josh_BorkeTuplad: right-click on the editbox
20:58.56TupladJosh_Borke: Whoa!
20:58.57maiaeternally777: so anything past that point can be emerged
20:59.00TupladGngsk: Clique:EfficientHeal() & Clique:EmergencyHeal()
20:59.19ag`what do I have to do to use oRA2
20:59.37eternally777In that case, put another point on the board for Linux.  If only Microsoft's releases were that simple.
20:59.40maiaJosh_Borke: is that better? http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2829/textmatewc0.png
20:59.45maiaag`: check out branch?
20:59.51ag`ok
21:00.02ag`but is it stable/have extras?
21:00.03Mikmaag`: svn co http://svb.wowace.com/root/branches/oRA2/Ammo/oRA2
21:00.05GngskTuplad, what file are those functions in?
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21:00.18ag`and does oRA1 work with the newest ctra
21:00.20ag`etc
21:00.29Mikmas/svb/svn/
21:00.31maiaag`: its for developer use. you'll see a few bugs, but nothing terrible for people who are used to errors.
21:00.39maiaag`: oRA1 is compatible though too.
21:00.57ag`oh, guess I will stick to stable as of yet
21:01.01Josh_Borkemaia: i hate you :-P
21:01.04iSynicYeah, you'll still see mentions of broadcasts and channels but it uses SendAddonMessage by default so just ignore them
21:01.10maiaJosh_Borke: huh? :)
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21:01.16phybercan someone on US wow suggest that Warlocks get a soulstone back when they dismiss their pet, instead of just when it goes out of range?
21:01.22Josh_Borkemaia: i just need to figure out how to get vim to do that :-P
21:01.27phyberI'd do it in EU Suggestions but, hahahahhahaa.
21:02.34ThraeAs a healer, I'd hate that. All the Warlocks would yell at me to heal their pets when I'm busy healing PLAYERS
21:02.46ag`should I use fubar plugin1.2 or fubar-plugin-compat
21:03.10phyberThrae: hmm?
21:03.45phyberthe way it works now is just dumb.  you can get your shard back, but in a retarded way.  a) make pet stand still, b) run away.
21:03.51maiaag`: what for?
21:03.57phyberc) profit.
21:04.00ag`for 1.2 pluings
21:04.12maiaag`: FuBar compat is needed for 1.2 plugins in 2.0 fubar
21:04.17ag`ok
21:04.22maiaFuBarPlugin is used for creatig fubar plugins
21:04.26ag`okie
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21:04.57Elkanoplugin is embedded into your addon and compat is stand allown allowing 1.2 plugins to run on 2.0
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21:06.55CIA-1103maia * r9585 10Detox/libs/: Detox: switched RosterLib to new external
21:07.12TupladGngskTuplad, what file are those functions in?
21:07.16TupladGngsk: right click in edit box
21:18.58HealthYay! Exalted with hydraxian! heh
21:20.35Josh_BorkeHealth: grats
21:20.43HealthHehe, not that it's useful I think :p
21:24.26maiaTekkub: still there?
21:24.38Tekkubyea, what's up?
21:25.26maiawant to help me fix the RosterLib problem with parties? If I remember correcty we both have a lvl1 druid somewhere.
21:25.55Tekkubyea sure... where? :)
21:26.21maiaI can't remember where, let me check
21:26.46maiaTekkub: Icecrown, I'm Maiatest, lvl4 druid.
21:27.08Tekkubrighto, loggin on to Beardyhead
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21:27.58maianeed to disable tons of addons anway, sec.
21:29.09Tekkubhrm... yea I gots addon errors :)
21:29.37maiaTekkub: well, Beardyhead is alliance. I'm in mulgore.
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21:29.48maiayou had a lvl1 druid in mulgore.
21:29.49Josh_Borkelol
21:29.56Tekkuboh yea, switching...
21:30.35CIA-1103tuplad * r9586 10AceTimer/Data/ (AceTimerDruid.lua AceTimerRogue.lua): AceTimer - Fixed Rogue(Kidneyshot) and Druid(Roots)
21:30.39CIA-1103tekkub * r9587 10RosterLib/ (RosterLib-2.0.toc RosterLib.toc):
21:30.39CIA-11RosterLib
21:30.39CIA-11- Gotta get the TOC name right if it's gonna load...
21:30.48CIA-1103tuplad * r9588 10AceTimer/Locale/AceTimerLocals.lua: AceTimer - Forgot about this one.
21:30.56maiahmm, for some reason I was in HADefaultChannel - wonder what addon might have caused that.
21:31.33ag`is there Ace2 replacements for DurabilityFu, HonorFu?
21:31.42NeronixHaha
21:31.48NeronixI got a hat trick
21:31.54NeronixI suck at pvp and I got a hat trick
21:32.02NeronixWhat next? Soloing C'thun? xD
21:32.03TupladNeronix: hat trick ?
21:32.06Josh_Borkelol
21:32.17NeronixTuplad: 3 flag caps in one game
21:32.23Tekkubyou're in a group maia
21:32.28maiahuh?
21:32.30Tekkub<--- Girth
21:32.38Tekkubit won't let me invite
21:32.40maianot anymore
21:32.47TupladNeronix: niec
21:32.50Tupladnice*
21:32.57TupladNeronix: class?
21:33.02NeronixWhy didn't I realise that pvp is so fun?
21:33.12NeronixTuplad: 46 lock, affliction spec
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21:34.06CIA-1103tekkub * r9589 10FuBar_FriendsFu/ (FuBar_FriendsFu.toc Libs/):
21:34.06CIA-11FuBar_FriendsFu
21:34.06CIA-11- Updated for new RosterLib path
21:34.46CIA-1103tekkub * r9590 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (FuBar_GuildFu.toc Libs/):
21:34.46CIA-11FuBar_GuildFu
21:34.46CIA-11- Updated for new RosterLib path
21:35.12CIA-1103uruloke * r9591 10ArcHUD2/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
21:35.12CIA-11ArcHUD2:
21:35.13CIA-11* Added FuBar plugin
21:35.13CIA-11* Added option for target buffs/debuffs
21:37.30ag`hm, how come there is no honorFu zip file?
21:37.36ag`in svn/files/
21:37.49Tekkubbecause it hasn't been touched
21:38.11Elkanohmm... I think svn.wowace.com should be changed to point to svn.wowace.com/files if called in a browser, shouldn't it?
21:38.32Tekkubyea...
21:39.02ag`how about a way to always link to the newest zip file of an addon?
21:39.02Elkanobtw: tekkub, what will happen with autorep if the category the faction is in is colapsed?
21:39.26Tekkubuh, it'll probably not find the faction and never make the switch
21:39.31Tekkubtry it :)
21:40.05yacoobnoooo :(
21:40.17yacoobperl frames don't handle buff/debuffs?
21:40.28maiaI really, really miss the webbased SVN diff.
21:40.40vhaarrme too
21:40.44Elkanowell, that's what I thought... I've got to 'fix' that somehow for FactionsFu :/
21:40.45maiait was very handy to see what other people really did, as their commit messages are mostly crap.
21:41.00Tekkubyea the webbased diff is nice
21:41.16HealthI guess you don't use the windows client? pretty nice diff between revs in theere
21:42.26Mikmayou know what BigWigs REALLY needs
21:42.54MikmaTekkub: request. Make a auto-afk message for the player who uses BigWigs to whisper players
21:42.57maiaHealth: well, I'd need to checkout all addons to watch their diffs.
21:43.05HealthThat's true
21:43.14Healthstupid me :)
21:43.26Tekkubhuh?
21:43.27maiaoften I'm at work, can't access the svn, but keep reading the rss feed of commits.
21:43.34MikmaTekkub: something that makes people stop whispering you while encountering bosses
21:43.46Mikma"i know" "i'm not stupid"
21:43.49Tekkubuhm.... wha?
21:43.57maiaTekkub: RosterLib working fine here (check your PM in IRC and partychat in wow)
21:44.08Tekkubhere's an idea, turn off whispering
21:44.09Mikmai just got a member whispering me "i'm not stupid lol" when BigWigs whispered to him "You are Burning!"
21:44.14Tekkubspammy asshole
21:44.19HealthAnyone with experience in deathknight naxx wing?
21:44.27MikmaTekkub: i need to keep it on since the noobs don't get it otherwise
21:44.36TekkubI don't write in code to fix social issues :P
21:44.46Tekkubget a better raid group
21:45.03yacoobBlah. Anyone can tell me what buff addon I can get, to complement Perl?
21:45.10yacoob(PerlUF, that is :)
21:45.16Healthhttp://85.230.25.118/img/bony.jpg - http://85.230.25.118/img/smith.jpg - can you seperate those pulls?
21:45.16KebinusanHealth, whats your question
21:45.18Mikmammkay i'll just mod the messages then on my end to have: (Automatic whisper)
21:45.26HealthKebinusan: Check the screenshots
21:46.10HealthAs in the Skeletal Smith group and the bony constructs
21:46.19TekkubMikma, make it clear to them that you're using a mod... CTRABW sends the same shit
21:46.19Kebinusanyeah those are two seperate groups
21:46.31Kebinusanwell they are actually solo pulls
21:46.34Kebinusanif you want to go slow
21:46.35Tekkubthe issue is that you're raiding with idiots :)
21:46.38MikmaTekkub: that will make them realize if i add that into whispers
21:46.44Tekkub1) you shouldn't have to spam them
21:46.49HealthKebinusan: Sweet! :)
21:46.49KebinusanRaiding would be so much easier if I could 40 box
21:46.56Tekkub2) your spam shouldn't illicit a response
21:46.57Mikma(Automatic whisper, do no reply)
21:47.33MikmaTekkub: well i have to spam them since like 50% of our guild haven't done bwl before
21:47.44Mikmathe idiots kept blowing us up in vael. assclowns.
21:47.44maiaTekkub: ?
21:47.53CIA-1103maia * r9592 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: removed some debug code
21:48.03Tekkub:P
21:49.10KebinusanMy favorite is the CTRA guys who go "Why is everyone whispering me that I have the plague?!?!"
21:49.50Mikmathe most funny thing was the same idiot did blow 50% of our raid up at the try before
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21:49.56HealthKebinusan: Both the bony constructs and skeletal smiths are single pulls?
21:50.07Kebinusanyeah
21:50.18Kebinusanthey have like no health
21:50.23Kebinusanthat deathknight trash is easy
21:50.27CIA-1103tuplad * r9593 10AceTimer/Data/AceTimerDruid.lua: AceTimer - Oops!
21:50.38FISKER_QI got a message today after vaelastrasz "Yeah i know, i think i got away safely"
21:50.51FISKER_Qturns out the guy thought i actually whispered him myself
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21:51.45hyperChipmunk=)
21:52.01FISKER_Qprobably should be kicked out of the guild if i was writing "You are burning" to each person who got BA each time :)
21:52.06FISKER_Qatleast as a rogue
21:52.10hyperChipmunkfirst time I did baron geddon, someone told me I was the bomb; I thought he was complimenting me
21:52.23FISKER_Qlol
21:52.28hyperChipmunkthen I exploded
21:52.43hyperChipmunkthey had neglected to explain the fight beforehand
21:53.08Neronixlol
21:53.12Kebinusan["Skeletal Smith:61"] = 49993, ["Bony Construct:61"] = 38057
21:54.27Neronixyacoob: PCUF does handle buffs/debuffs
21:54.58tumetomI'd like to remove the edge og chatr's background...
21:56.18tumetomis there anywhere a "tutorial" to this xml $%&% ?
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21:58.44CIA-1103tekkub * r9594 10ParserLib/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
21:58.44CIA-11ParserLib
21:58.44CIA-11- Moved docs to root folder so that the auto-zip won't pick up the sample TOC
22:01.41CIA-1103tekkub * r9595 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc:
22:01.41CIA-11WitchHunt
22:01.41CIA-11- *POKE*
22:01.58yacoobNeronix: well... it does, but I don't see much options
22:02.09yacoobLike making them vertical, or 2 column
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22:03.29Tekkubhey that's fixed... everyone that uses ParserLib in their mods please touch them so the SVN zip descriptions are fixed :)
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22:09.37KebinusanWow, http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5012-1-patchwerk-hateful-strike-warner.html has to be the most annoying mod ever
22:10.40Tekkubneed me to slip some shit ino bossblock? :)
22:11.27maiaTekkub: time to alt-tab back to wow
22:11.37Tekkubrighto :)
22:11.46KebinusanI havent run it tek, but he hatefulstrikes so often I cant imagine running it
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22:13.22hyperChipmunkhm, we should add the LowHealthFrame as an indicator in BigWigs; I don't think it's used in the game at all
22:13.26CIA-1103fritti * r9596 10!BugGrabber/BugGrabber.lua:
22:13.26CIA-11!BugGrabber:
22:13.26CIA-11- Add error throttling by queuing the exact same errors and outputting a count of caught errors after a maximum of 30 seconds. Should help with errors in OnUpdate handlers.
22:13.40kergothFritti: yay
22:13.43Fritti:)
22:13.48Frittifinally a bit of time to code :-/
22:14.03Frittibugsack no chat output commit to come
22:14.13hyperChipmunkyay
22:14.15Frittibut I'm still scared of svk merge so I'm manually copying things over
22:14.16Kebinusanyay indeed
22:14.46CIA-1103maia * r9597 10ProximityLib/Lib/ProximityLib.lua: ProximityLib: fixed unit iterator for party members (therefor also fixing Squishy party display)
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22:17.15vhaarr[Ammo]: there?
22:17.34vhaarrThe Dark Glare timer for C'thun is definetely wrong.
22:18.02TekkubStubble!
22:18.02CIA-1103fritti * r9598 10BugSack/ (4 files):
22:18.03CIA-11BugSack:
22:18.03CIA-11- Add a toggle whether to print messages to the chat frame, and default it to off. The sound & FuBar plugin count should be enough.
22:18.03CIA-11- Update to the new AceLocale-2.0 L["foo"] translation style.
22:18.03CIA-11- Translations for deDE and zhCN will need to be updated for the new menu option, it'll default to english for now.
22:18.15Tekkubokey so I was slow to find the right name there
22:18.38Josh_Borkela di da
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22:18.43Josh_Borkedeath counters are fun
22:28.17CIA-1103maia * r9599 10ProximityLib/Lib/ProximityLib.lua: ProximityLib: adding MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED to track party members after a reloadui as Blizzard doesnt fire a PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED
22:28.35Frittinice workaround maia
22:28.54maia:)
22:29.09Frittiyou're actually getting some use from the meeting stones! :)
22:31.15phyberI once found a great Uldaman PuG with a meeting stone.
22:31.22phyberI think the day after they were patched in :p
22:31.28Frittiheh
22:31.37Frittithey keep waving their hands about with the magical LFG UI
22:31.51CIA-1103sinaloit * r9600 10!!!Libraries/Libs/:
22:31.51CIA-11!!!Libraries:
22:31.51CIA-11- Updated RosterLib Path.
22:32.30CIA-1103maia * r9601 10Squishy/Squishy.toc: Squishy: touching the toc to add new ProximityLib
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22:34.46Kebinusanrabbit, got transcript
22:38.23ag`no durability fu for Ace2?=)
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22:42.30Tupladag`: get FuBar-compat-1.2 ? ;D
22:43.23ag`trying to get rid of that stuff
22:43.31Tupladwhy ? :O
22:43.55Neronixbecause it's HUEG LIEK PS3
22:44.03Neronix~literal emulate neronix
22:44.05purl"emulate neronix" is "(<reply>(MobInfo2|MetaMap|NeedyList|Gatherer|Your mom|Cosmos|PCUF|X-Perl|Discord) is HUEG LIEK PS3|<action> adds more debug strings)"
22:45.05Tuplad"your mom" lol
22:45.08Tuplad~emulate neronix
22:45.10purlGatherer is HUEG LIEK PS3
22:45.19Tuplad:O
22:45.30Neronix[23:50:31] [purl] "emulate neronix" is "(<reply>(MobInfo2|MetaMap|NeedyList|Gatherer|Your mom|Cosmos|PCUF|X-Perl|Discord|FuBar-compat-1.2) is HUEG LIEK PS3|<action> adds more debug strings|<reply>(ParserLib 1.x|MobInfo-2|Gatherer|RDX) eats memory like a fat kid eats cake)
22:45.34Neronixugh
22:45.48Neronixpurl: no, emulate neronix is (<reply>(MobInfo2|MetaMap|NeedyList|Gatherer|Your mom|Cosmos|PCUF|X-Perl|Discord|FuBar-compat-1.2) is HUEG LIEK PS3|<action> adds more debug strings|<reply>(ParserLib 1.x|MobInfo-2|Gatherer|RDX) eats memory like a fat kid eats cake)
22:45.49purlNeronix: okay
22:45.55Neronix~emulate neronix
22:45.56purlX-Perl is HUEG LIEK PS3
22:46.18Tuplad~emulate neronix
22:46.19purlMobInfo-2 eats memory like a fat kid eats cake
22:46.24Tuplad-_-
22:46.31Tupladno Discord on the list?
22:46.42NeronixIt's in the first
22:47.09NeronixThe second one's for stuff notorious for high kb/2
22:47.13Neronixs/2/s/
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22:57.28Tuplad~emulate neronix
22:57.30purlCosmos is HUEG LIEK PS3
22:58.06KebinusanIs there some sort of lightweight gatherer mod?
22:58.39Tupladno
22:58.39NeronixCT_MapMod is the lightest there is
22:58.50Tupladbut it requires CT_MasterMod too ;<
22:58.54Neronixbut it isn't THAT good
22:58.59NeronixTuplad, it doesn't
22:59.21TupladNeronix: it doesnt ? o_O
22:59.24Tuplad:O
23:01.31Ratbert_CPAlright, AceHooks-2.0 is beginning to piss me off...
23:06.30Ratbert_CPI hook UseContainerItem, but the new function *never* gets called...  Then it complains about unhooking a function that wasn't hooked.  Yet it reports :IsHooked("UseContainerItem") correctly.
23:07.18Cairennsince a lot of you don't hang in the cool kids channel ... the pirate has come through for ya'll again ... Lua 5.1 for the expansion http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14682657&sid=1
23:07.32Ratbert_CPUnless...  If Blizz is hooking it on MERCHANT_SHOW and unhooking on MERCHANT_CLOSED, I suppose I could be getting caught in the meat grinder...
23:08.21CIA-1103gamefaq * r9602 10BugSack/BugSack-deDE.lua: BugSack - Translated new Options to deDE
23:08.47FtH|eaglethat's nice Cairenn
23:10.18Kyahxnice
23:12.41Kyahxwasn't AceHook getting rewriten?
23:13.38CIA-1103tekkub * r9603 10FuBar_MailFu/Core.lua:
23:13.38CIA-11FuBar_MailFu
23:13.38CIA-11- Fixed the text formatting options finally (god how long have I had issues with that crap.. since this was a Titan mod...)
23:13.38CIA-11- Now uses table lookup method for locale stuff
23:14.03TekkubCairenn, play with his beard for me
23:14.08Tekkubsince he won't let me
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23:14.22CairennTekkub: will do ;)
23:14.44snurre-oRA2: [mt] is not a valid option for /ora
23:14.46snurre-orly?
23:15.08TekkubServer Error ><
23:15.13Tekkubthe new forums still suck
23:16.13maiaTekkub: your auto-join parties is very handy.
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23:16.59Tekkuboh yea
23:17.24TekkubI'm breaking out my ConglomoMod, I need to split out tekAcceptance :)
23:17.38maiagonna test RosterLib in AV
23:17.43Tekkubtoo bad Denial hasn't been deuced :)
23:18.01TekkubActually, I will just name it Acceptance *grin*
23:18.04Tekkubno tek
23:20.16snurre-*panics*
23:20.21snurre-my aguf stopped working
23:20.23snurre-well
23:20.40snurre-player, target and targettarget at least :(
23:24.42Ratbert_CPDang it!  AceHook-2.0 *is* borked...  :HookReport() fails miserably...
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23:25.47mjcboo
23:33.28phyberTekkub: Denial replacement?
23:33.38Tekkubnope
23:33.48Tekkubauto-accept invites from friends/guildies
23:33.53phyberaahh
23:34.01phybermaybe i'll try to ace2 denial then
23:34.15CairennRatbert_CP: you can find clad in the wowi channel
23:34.23GngskTekkub, AAI?
23:35.49Tupladsomethign's wrong with clique
23:36.01Tupladif I middleclick on a party member(rejuvenation), it casts it on me
23:36.18Gngskyou can't use the blizz auto self cast with clique
23:45.49ckknighthey Ratbert_CP
23:45.53TupladGngsk: damn
23:46.12ckknightRatbert_CP, clad is the main author of AceHook
23:46.18ckknightI only tweaked it a little
23:54.06Tupladalways blame clad :>
23:56.52yacoobHm.
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23:57.09yacoobWhich addon would give me a nice set of ora commands on the fubar?
23:59.30Arrowmasterora_menu
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