| 00:00.31 | Gngsk | spiffy |
| 00:00.49 | Tuplad | Thats porn! |
| 00:01.07 | Zeryl | oRA doesn't seem to be working :( |
| 00:01.51 | Zeryl | everyone else doesn't see me, and I don't see anyone else.... |
| 00:02.02 | Zeryl | using version check |
| 00:02.04 | Arrowmaster | wereHamster: its from people not using a version of bigwigs updated for 1.12 |
| 00:02.22 | Arrowmaster | Zeryl: try /script oRA_Core:JoinChannel() |
| 00:02.23 | grumpey | :haste . .that's nice ./ |
| 00:02.40 | Zeryl | no dice Arrowmaster |
| 00:02.49 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r8974 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: Glory - now properly accounts for cross-realm bgs. |
| 00:02.54 | ckknight | alright. |
| 00:02.57 | ckknight | :-) |
| 00:03.03 | Zeryl | and now refreshing the version check window = error - [2006/08/24 19:02:44-154]: oRA_Version\oRA_Version.lua:33: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value) |
| 00:03.03 | Zeryl | oRA_Version\oRA_Version.lua:33: in function `UpdateList' |
| 00:03.03 | Zeryl | <string>:"oRAVersionReportFrameCloseButton:OnClick":2: in main chunk |
| 00:03.04 | wereHamster | Arrowmaster, it has to be a version for 1.12 because the message appears in CHAT_MSG_ADDON |
| 00:03.31 | Arrowmaster | wereHamster: its sending the sync messages using a CTRA function |
| 00:03.36 | Zeryl | now it's populating -- nevermind :) |
| 00:03.54 | wereHamster | ah.. that makes sense |
| 00:04.36 | Arrowmaster | Zeryl: yeah i ran into that bug too, seems the event that does registerevent("CHAT_MSG_ADDON") doesnt fire correctly sometimes |
| 00:04.52 | Zeryl | alright, at least I know it's not just me |
| 00:04.59 | Arrowmaster | and doing oRA_Core:JoinChannel() makes it fire |
| 00:05.21 | Zeryl | hrmm, odd |
| 00:06.12 | haste | that makes it register the events... |
| 00:09.20 | Arrowmaster | lol wtf ive got somebody from the opposite faction showing up with a blue health bar above their head |
| 00:09.48 | ckknight | odd |
| 00:10.24 | Neronix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKjvpX3pt9Q |
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| 00:11.38 | ckknight_ | cord came out |
| 00:13.08 | Tuplad | cord ? :o |
| 00:15.56 | yacoob | Quite a few fubar addons started to show %d near digits. Common mistake, that appeared in 1.12, or bug in fubar itself with format strings? |
| 00:16.06 | Tuplad | Thrae: 1.12 |
| 00:16.08 | Tuplad | uhh |
| 00:16.09 | Tuplad | 1.12* |
| 00:19.09 | Tuplad | Core.lua:7: attempt to index global `self' (a nil value) wtf ? |
| 00:19.12 | Tuplad | self:RegisterEvent |
| 00:23.01 | CIA-11 | 03grimwald * r8975 10ImprovedRWF/ImprovedRWF.toc: |
| 00:23.01 | CIA-11 | ImprovedRWF: |
| 00:23.01 | CIA-11 | * didn't cause any problems with 1.12 - updated toc |
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| 00:27.49 | Tuplad | Mikma: How do you disable the group number next to the name in PRaid ? |
| 00:29.50 | ckknight_ | yacoob, it's already fixed. |
| 00:29.57 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r8976 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.lua localization.lua): |
| 00:29.57 | CIA-11 | SimpleCombatLog |
| 00:29.57 | CIA-11 | - "/scl reset" should work now. |
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| 00:30.31 | Gngsk | is there anyway to tell witchhunt which sct frame to display in? |
| 00:31.02 | Tuplad | Gngsk: Na'ah |
| 00:31.13 | Gngsk | hmm |
| 00:31.17 | Gngsk | there totally should be |
| 00:31.26 | Gngsk | would like it to show up in the message frame |
| 00:32.45 | Tuplad | ;\ |
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| 00:40.10 | CIA-11 | 03grimwald * r8977 10BigWigs/BWL/ (Chromaggus.lua Flamegor.lua): |
| 00:40.11 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: |
| 00:40.11 | CIA-11 | * BWL: "%s " in monster emote triggers |
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| 00:50.22 | yacoob | ckknight_: will there be release, or should I get the svn version? |
| 00:50.37 | ckknight_ | the issue is with AbacusLib |
| 00:50.43 | ckknight_ | so you know |
| 00:50.45 | ckknight_ | that was updated. |
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| 00:55.04 | yacoob | ckknight_: thing is, I'd rather stick to "releases" from wowi. Instead of svn. So, as this came with fubar itself, will there be a new release? |
| 00:55.36 | ckknight_ | well, it depends on the plugin that's causing an issue |
| 00:55.45 | ckknight_ | if it's a 2.0 plugin, it's not FuBar's fault |
| 00:56.01 | ckknight_ | if it's a 1.2 plugin, a new FuBar release will end up fixing it |
| 00:56.30 | yacoob | Righto. Then I'll wait for the release. |
| 00:57.06 | ckknight_ | which plugin, btw? |
| 00:58.05 | yacoob | I found such "leftovers" of format strings in RestFu and PerformanceFu |
| 00:58.27 | ckknight | PerformanceFu is updated to 2.0 on SVN |
| 00:58.29 | ckknight | RestFu, too |
| 00:58.42 | ckknight | I still control PerformanceFu |
| 00:58.46 | ckknight | but someone else took over RestFu |
| 00:58.49 | ckknight | phyber, I think |
| 00:59.26 | yacoob | like I said, first place I turn into is wowi. I don't like following 'bleeding edge' |
| 00:59.29 | phyber | I didn't take RestFu yet, but if it needs doing, I'll get to it. |
| 00:59.47 | phyber | probably after TopScoreFu |
| 00:59.51 | ckknight | did you say you wanted it? |
| 00:59.55 | ckknight | someone said they wanted it |
| 01:00.03 | phyber | nah, i didn't claim it yet. |
| 01:00.06 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:00.16 | ckknight | I need to write down whoever wanted it... |
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| 01:01.50 | yacoob | BattlegroundFu and HonorFu also need loving :) |
| 01:03.56 | ckknight | doing HonorFu now |
| 01:04.02 | ckknight | BatFu is chip's |
| 01:04.09 | Neronix | yacoob: That's a bug caused by a blizzard change |
| 01:04.24 | yacoob | Neronix: which was? |
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| 01:04.28 | Neronix | they changed a couple of globalstrings from "m" to "%d m" etc. |
| 01:07.21 | Neronix | seems ckknight fixed it already |
| 01:07.28 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:07.31 | ckknight | sure did |
| 01:07.52 | Zeryl | Hey guys, found another small query bug in bigwigs, and a bigwigs color error |
| 01:07.56 | Nightdew | who here has a lvl 60 hunter? |
| 01:08.28 | hyperChipmunk | yo |
| 01:08.49 | hyperChipmunk | what of it? |
| 01:08.54 | Gngsk | hC, you're a GM aren't you? |
| 01:09.06 | hyperChipmunk | former |
| 01:09.14 | Nightdew | hyperChipmunk: im trying to figure out what spells have effect on aimed shot |
| 01:09.22 | Nightdew | negative effects |
| 01:09.30 | hyperChipmunk | like, cast time spells? |
| 01:09.39 | Health | haste, finish your addons or I'll spank ya! |
| 01:09.48 | haste | what add on? |
| 01:10.00 | Nightdew | well i was told that there are some raid mobs that cast some spells that slow down casting time |
| 01:10.01 | hyperChipmunk | curse of whatever it is affects |
| 01:10.05 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 01:10.09 | hyperChipmunk | those affect aimed shot |
| 01:10.18 | Nightdew | however when i tried Curse of tongues |
| 01:10.19 | Health | all! *spanky* |
| 01:10.24 | Nightdew | seemed to have no effect |
| 01:10.25 | hyperChipmunk | curse of tongues does too |
| 01:10.40 | Health | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12911443&sid=1 :D |
| 01:10.43 | hyperChipmunk | least, it did when i tested it a few months ago |
| 01:10.50 | Health | I wonder if I get to melt faces |
| 01:10.56 | hyperChipmunk | rapid fire/quick shots affect it the other way, as well |
| 01:11.00 | Nightdew | yeah |
| 01:11.17 | Nightdew | and you can actually see the effect using UnitRangedDamage |
| 01:11.17 | hyperChipmunk | it may have changed this patch, i dunno |
| 01:12.31 | yacoob | there's mind numbing poison, that affects casting time, too. |
| 01:13.37 | ckknight | woot, Ace2'd HonorFu |
| 01:13.57 | hyperChipmunk | =) I'm working on the same for BatFu |
| 01:14.04 | hyperChipmunk | but queue times are so darn short =x |
| 01:14.14 | hyperChipmunk | I have no time to code anymore! |
| 01:14.33 | yacoob | queue for specific instance, it should be longer :P |
| 01:14.53 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I don't think my team would be too happy with that |
| 01:14.55 | Zeryl | should i put a bigwigs query problem on flyspray? along with the color bug? |
| 01:15.33 | hyperChipmunk | in fact, I know they wouldn't, because I did it once yesterday by accident |
| 01:17.08 | Tain | Woo 4/8 T2 armor |
| 01:18.22 | ckknight | lol, chip |
| 01:18.29 | Nightdew | hyperChipmunk: from what I can tell Curse of tongues doesnt have any effect anymore. |
| 01:18.39 | Neronix`sleep | night |
| 01:19.29 | hyperChipmunk | interesting |
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| 01:20.47 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r8978 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: |
| 01:20.47 | CIA-11 | ParserLib |
| 01:20.47 | CIA-11 | - add revision keyword |
| 01:20.47 | CIA-11 | - added "INSTAKILLOTHER", "INSTAKILLSELF" pattern. |
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| 01:22.00 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r8979 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.lua customization.lua): SimpleCombatLog - added "deathSkill" format. |
| 01:23.07 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r8980 10GloryLib/ (. Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua GloryLib.toc): Glory - changed DB to Glory2DB, fixed up stuff |
| 01:23.46 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r8981 10FuBar_HonorFu/libs/: HonorFu - added libs dir |
| 01:23.55 | Rophy | I forgot how to set revision keyword. |
| 01:24.02 | Rophy | "$Revision$" ? |
| 01:24.10 | Rophy | case sensitive? |
| 01:26.17 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r8982 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib - fixing revision keyword. |
| 01:27.49 | ckknight | Rophy, svn:keywords |
| 01:28.00 | Rophy | yeah i added it |
| 01:28.09 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r8983 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParsreLib - still fixing revision keyword :( |
| 01:28.41 | Rophy | but needs to tonumber and strsub the keyword for old embe lib stub |
| 01:30.12 | ckknight | old embed? |
| 01:30.19 | ckknight | oh, 1.1 |
| 01:30.22 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:30.23 | Rophy | ya |
| 01:30.25 | Rophy | :p |
| 01:30.28 | ckknight | just use 2.0, I say. |
| 01:30.38 | Rophy | it's not finished yet and I have to update the old one first :p |
| 01:30.44 | ckknight | alright |
| 01:30.47 | Rophy | for the new patterns. |
| 01:32.55 | Kebinusan | INSTAKILL eh? |
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| 01:35.18 | ckknight_ | crappy router |
| 01:35.41 | haste | stab it! |
| 01:36.01 | ckknight_ | nah, that only works in the movies |
| 01:36.02 | Health | Will whitch thingy warn on totems? |
| 01:36.10 | Health | stab stab stab! |
| 01:36.13 | Health | ~seen krka |
| 01:36.35 | purl | krka <i=krka@80.216.102.253> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 4d 16h 12m 5s ago, saying: 'Tem|Sleep: you wanted something?'. |
| 01:37.08 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 01:37.16 | Health | Sweet, I should get that |
| 01:37.25 | Health | and make a target totem macro and ninja kill them |
| 01:37.34 | Health | tot..... STAB! |
| 01:37.53 | Health | That I dont stab as a priest is another story |
| 01:43.29 | ckknight_ | ~lozareth |
| 01:43.39 | purl | A man who stole your FPS and Memory aka The Boogyman of http://www.discordmods.com/ - "I got mem so why not use it" |
| 01:43.39 | ckknight_ | hey Kaelten |
| 01:44.06 | Kaelten | sup guys? |
| 01:44.14 | haste | Thinking of going to bed |
| 01:44.30 | ckknight | not much |
| 01:44.46 | Kaelten | heh me too, I just worked a 12 1/2 hour shift |
| 01:45.13 | ckknight | feel free to spam http://12.129.252.27/thread.html?topicId=11491188&sid=1 :-P |
| 01:45.27 | ckknight | (good things only) |
| 01:46.38 | Mikma | oh i wish i could :P |
| 01:46.56 | ckknight | why? you foreign? |
| 01:47.35 | Mikma | let's just say i'm not a part of "the greatest country in the world" ;) |
| 01:47.43 | haste | I can't post on the EU forums, or the US forums! |
| 01:47.47 | haste | right now at least :p |
| 01:48.01 | ckknight | Mikma, Japan? |
| 01:48.13 | Mikma | ckknight: zing zong dojong! nope |
| 01:48.24 | ckknight | it was a joke |
| 01:48.30 | ckknight | as to what the greatest country in the world is |
| 01:48.40 | ckknight | of course, we all know, it the U.S. of A. |
| 01:48.50 | Mikma | that's why i tried to do some crazy japanese on my line hehe |
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| 01:49.48 | Mikma | http://12.129.252.27/thread.html?topicId=11871650&sid=1 |
| 01:49.51 | Mikma | hahahahahaa go ckknight |
| 01:49.52 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 01:50.10 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 01:50.13 | ckknight | I'm such a bitch. |
| 01:50.26 | Mikma | i'd slap you in the ass if i would live near you |
| 01:50.52 | Nightdew | he'd like it too much, be careful. |
| 01:51.18 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 01:51.24 | ckknight | nothing wrong with a little BDSM |
| 01:51.29 | ckknight | granted, I'm a dom |
| 01:51.58 | Mikma | damn, there goes my opportunity then |
| 01:53.28 | ckknight | just be glad I'm not picqueristic |
| 01:53.45 | ckknight | piqueristic* |
| 01:54.05 | Mikma | why oh why people put their ugly ui-pictures online and are proud of it :( |
| 01:54.27 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 01:54.36 | Mikma | http://xs105.xs.to/xs105/06344/newlavscreen2.jpg |
| 01:54.43 | Mikma | " |
| 01:54.44 | Mikma | Lavendria, that is one of the coolest looking UIs i've seen, any chance of hosting it for others?" |
| 01:54.49 | Mikma | yeah, RIGHT.. |
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| 01:55.30 | Kaelten | I hate my computer sometimes |
| 01:56.00 | Kaelten | it can sit here for hours and be fine, then I open a website and it says "FUCK YOU!" and dies |
| 01:56.02 | Kaelten | sorry, /rant off |
| 01:56.21 | Mikma | meh |
| 01:57.01 | Mikma | Kaelten: well i'm watching pictures of other people ui's.. i need to be shot :P |
| 01:57.48 | Kaelten | lol |
| 01:57.51 | Mikma | http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/893/myuiah5.png |
| 01:57.54 | Mikma | moo baby, moo. |
| 01:57.58 | Kaelten | I need to code on my stuff something hardcore |
| 01:58.31 | Mikma | i have an addon idea for you |
| 01:58.42 | Mikma | Chat editor :P |
| 01:59.02 | Mikma | you can move everything in chat to any place you want |
| 01:59.22 | ckknight | Kaelten, Ace2 KCI? |
| 01:59.29 | Mikma | i'm plannin on making some things movable when i got the time to continue bartender2 |
| 01:59.51 | Mikma | like chateditbox, buff-frames, minimap... |
| 02:01.35 | Azurewrath | "i got mem so why not use it".. not bad hehe |
| 02:02.14 | Azurewrath | got a guildie with 4gig ram.. "before i search for anything that uses up too much memory i'll plug in another gig" ;) |
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| 02:04.49 | Mikma | good example! http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/936/ui2pk9.jpg |
| 02:05.00 | Mikma | pretty damn clean ui. and uimem? |
| 02:05.12 | Mikma | *only* 46.101MB! |
| 02:05.35 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 02:05.40 | ckknight | is it something I can comment on? |
| 02:05.45 | Azurewrath | 46mb... wtf |
| 02:05.53 | ckknight | and be like, Biznatch, use FuBar |
| 02:05.56 | Mikma | ckknight: yeah sure it's on us forums |
| 02:06.01 | ckknight | link me |
| 02:06.17 | Azurewrath | i'm still using DUF+DAB and have ~35mb in Full Raid.. |
| 02:07.01 | Mikma | i need to find it again heh moment |
| 02:07.48 | Amadeo | ouch |
| 02:08.09 | Mikma | hmm |
| 02:08.09 | Mikma | http://12.129.252.27/thread.html?topicId=11961419&sid=1 |
| 02:08.19 | Mikma | seems like he's asking what font is being used in that shot |
| 02:08.41 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/layout.jpg |
| 02:08.45 | Mikma | compare to that lol |
| 02:08.51 | ckknight | ah, I can't bitch at him for that |
| 02:09.40 | Mikma | http://12.129.252.27/thread.html?topicId=11871575&sid=1 |
| 02:09.45 | Mikma | MVP spotted! |
| 02:10.14 | ckknight | ah, yea |
| 02:10.29 | Mikma | green :D |
| 02:11.53 | Kaelten | I'm halfway tempted to discontinue KCET |
| 02:13.17 | ckknight | what's KCET? |
| 02:13.27 | ckknight | ah, EnhancedTrades |
| 02:13.29 | ckknight | what's it do? |
| 02:14.03 | Kaelten | it displays additional information about what you can make based on buyable items, bank items and alt's items |
| 02:14.06 | Kaelten | however I can |
| 02:14.14 | Kaelten | 't seem to find a fast way to do it anymore. |
| 02:14.27 | Kaelten | since like 1.7 or so they screwed it up and its just getting worse and worse |
| 02:14.36 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:15.07 | ckknight | if you discontinue, leave a note saying that someone can take it over if they so wish |
| 02:15.13 | Kaelten | the processing the build counts is what takes so long even my new way, on many machines causes extreme lag |
| 02:15.15 | Health | I shouldn't use dab.. I can't remember why I dissed you Mikma! |
| 02:16.47 | Mikma | me? maybe because i am an idiot |
| 02:18.10 | ckknight | what'd be awesome is a sqlite db instead of the SVs we have now ;-) |
| 02:18.55 | Azurewrath | ckknight, should HonorFu be fully 1.12 compatible? :) |
| 02:19.11 | ckknight | Azurewrath, the one I'll upload in 15 minutes, yes |
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| 02:19.27 | zerobfh | *gg*-> http://www.my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=6334 |
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| 02:19.36 | Azurewrath | ckknight: hehe, ok :) |
| 02:20.46 | Mikma | wow |
| 02:20.51 | Azurewrath | hm odd.. SimpleCombatLog really screws up squeenix.. and produces Error: attempt to index local `db' (a boolean value) AddOn: SimpleCombatLog File: SimpleCombatLog.lua Line: 467 Count: 1 on login |
| 02:21.33 | ckknight | just doing localization now |
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| 02:22.34 | Azurewrath | using the english client anyway.. german localization sucks in many ways.. |
| 02:23.52 | Mikma | hmmh, maybe i should return to bed |
| 02:24.09 | Mikma | i tried to sleep for 2 hours before i decided to come to irc |
| 02:25.02 | Mikma | Karma: +49/-99 |
| 02:25.04 | Mikma | gz indie |
| 02:25.11 | Kebinusan | DnT killed the four horsemen it seems |
| 02:25.13 | Mikma | getting close to hit 100 |
| 02:25.21 | Kebinusan | or so the post goes |
| 02:25.45 | Kebinusan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11961761&sid=1 |
| 02:27.55 | Azurewrath | mhm.. their website is a bit slow ;) |
| 02:28.54 | eternally777 | Anything major change in AceLocale-2.1? Anything I need to do differently? |
| 02:29.28 | ckknight_ | yes, API completely changed |
| 02:29.33 | ckknight_ | hopefully Kaelten documented |
| 02:29.49 | eternally777 | Not on the wiki :-( |
| 02:32.01 | eternally777 | Or.. were you being sarcastic? |
| 02:32.22 | snurre | Currently Active Users: 3266 (125 members and 3141 guests) |
| 02:32.24 | snurre | on DnT forums :p |
| 02:32.34 | Tem | terrific... |
| 02:32.47 | Tem | I rush a shadow priest and a warlock and the server craps out |
| 02:33.07 | Amadeo | http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/Karitsuro/4HZEL.jpg |
| 02:33.41 | snurre | doesnt show much |
| 02:34.04 | frus` | well they sure killed 2, and you can't just kill them 1 by 1 |
| 02:34.16 | frus` | so all dead inc soon at least, if it didn't happen already :) |
| 02:34.25 | Amadeo | and something about that glowing portal |
| 02:34.39 | frus` | ah ye, didn't notice that |
| 02:34.41 | Amadeo | so they all must be dead |
| 02:34.43 | frus` | yep |
| 02:34.54 | Kaelten | huh |
| 02:34.58 | Kaelten | what did I do ? |
| 02:35.07 | ckknight_ | any Germans? |
| 02:35.27 | Kaelten | GameFaq is a german translator |
| 02:35.29 | Kebinusan | yeah didnt notice the glowing portal |
| 02:36.07 | Kaelten | he translated OneBag for me |
| 02:36.11 | Amadeo | I'll be away for two weeks in a hotel with wireless access, and nothing to access it with :( |
| 02:36.21 | Kaelten | doh |
| 02:37.02 | Amadeo | http://66.250.45.101/~dtguild/horsemen.jpg |
| 02:37.05 | Amadeo | taht's strange too |
| 02:37.35 | Azurewrath | ckknight im German :) |
| 02:39.39 | ckknight_ | alright |
| 02:39.58 | ckknight_ | "Flagged" as in you just did /pvp |
| 02:40.13 | ckknight_ | "Killed Today" as a header for how many times you killed this guy today |
| 02:40.22 | ckknight_ | "Number of kills today.\nIf more than 10 kills, then no more honor from this player." |
| 02:40.30 | eternally777 | So the locale changing wasn't a joke, and there is no documentation? |
| 02:40.35 | ckknight_ | "%d Kills" |
| 02:41.03 | ckknight_ | eternally777, Kaelten wrote it, he should've documented it |
| 02:41.08 | Azurewrath | "Flagged" -> "Markiert" |
| 02:41.26 | Nightdew | need help with a good term |
| 02:41.40 | Azurewrath | "Killed Today" -> "Heute getötet" (don't ask me about the code for ö ;p) |
| 02:41.52 | ckknight_ | don't worry, I'll be using UTF-8 |
| 02:41.53 | Nightdew | What would be a good term for the speed with which a mob is getting kiiled? |
| 02:42.10 | ckknight_ | ouchies per second |
| 02:42.15 | Azurewrath | hehe :) |
| 02:42.21 | Kaelten | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceLocale-2.1 |
| 02:42.25 | Kaelten | first bit of documentation |
| 02:42.43 | eternally777 | That was quick, ty Kaelten. |
| 02:42.53 | ckknight_ | not quite, Kaelten |
| 02:42.58 | ckknight_ | change L to AceLocale |
| 02:42.59 | Kaelten | well its an example |
| 02:43.32 | Azurewrath | "Number of kills today.\nIf more than 10 kills, then no more honor from this player." -> "Heutige Kills.\nIf Bei mehr als 10 Kills gibt es keine Ehre mehr für diesen Spieler." |
| 02:43.48 | Azurewrath | "%d Kills" -> "%d Kills" |
| 02:43.48 | Kaelten | k, fixed |
| 02:44.10 | ckknight_ | thanks a lot, Azurewrath |
| 02:44.26 | Azurewrath | would be possible to translate Kills too, but it sounds really odd.. everyone i know just says kills |
| 02:44.55 | ckknight_ | fair enough. |
| 02:45.59 | ckknight | Mein Deutsch ist night sehr gut :-P |
| 02:46.12 | Azurewrath | hehe :) |
| 02:46.29 | Azurewrath | nicht, not "night" though ;p |
| 02:47.21 | *** join/#wowace Freedon (n=Freedon@ip68-5-92-49.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 02:47.28 | ckknight | typo. |
| 02:47.29 | Freedon | hello |
| 02:47.34 | ckknight | hey Freedon |
| 02:47.48 | Health | Face meltage! |
| 02:47.56 | Freedon | Shadow Priest Okay? |
| 02:48.02 | ckknight | okay by me. |
| 02:48.07 | Freedon | is part of the |
| 02:48.09 | Freedon | MC Rap |
| 02:48.10 | Freedon | ahah |
| 02:49.10 | Freedon | CK you workin on any new addons |
| 02:49.21 | Azurewrath | mhm... as i think further about it.. replace "Markiert" with "PvP-Markiert" or "Geflagt".. the last one isn't a real German word, but what people say in Chat |
| 02:49.34 | eternally777 | Ckk, whispers sent via acecomm are sent as normal whispers? |
| 02:49.35 | ckknight | too late, committed. |
| 02:49.42 | eternally777 | Or does the receiving player need to have the mod as well? |
| 02:49.44 | ckknight | eternally777, there's no other way to do so |
| 02:49.50 | eternally777 | kk, didn't know |
| 02:49.52 | Azurewrath | nevermind, will do fine ;) |
| 02:49.53 | Freedon | someone needs to make ace2 Discord Art and Discord Unit Frames |
| 02:49.58 | Freedon | or ace2 nurfed hud. |
| 02:50.06 | ckknight | eternally777, basically, the other guy needs to have AceComm, minimally, not necessarily the same addon |
| 02:50.20 | ckknight | Freedon, thanks for volunteering :-P |
| 02:50.46 | Freedon | Ckknight, thanks for volunteering for helping me learn how to code ;) |
| 02:50.58 | ckknight | read the wiki. |
| 02:51.01 | ckknight | I wrote most of it |
| 02:51.11 | Health | It's not that hard - just some logic! |
| 02:51.11 | Freedon | <--- not one clue of how to code =) |
| 02:51.16 | ckknight | lots of info there |
| 02:51.27 | Freedon | 13 Year old kids |
| 02:51.31 | Freedon | shouldnt learn how to code |
| 02:51.32 | Freedon | its true. |
| 02:51.36 | Freedon | =) |
| 02:51.38 | Health | http://85.230.25.118/img/melt.jpg :( |
| 02:51.44 | ckknight | you're 13? |
| 02:51.45 | Azurewrath | the earlier the better |
| 02:51.47 | ckknight | pfft. |
| 02:51.52 | ckknight | I started when I was like 10 |
| 02:51.58 | ckknight | really, the earlier the better |
| 02:52.01 | Freedon | hahahahaha |
| 02:52.06 | Freedon | how old are you now? |
| 02:52.09 | Health | 19! |
| 02:52.12 | Freedon | Health, your alliance no one cares. |
| 02:52.14 | ckknight | 19 and 2 days ;-) |
| 02:52.22 | Freedon | Health, Alliance is for teh losers. |
| 02:52.25 | Azurewrath | oh, Happy Birthday :) |
| 02:52.30 | ckknight | Freedon, don't be a troll. |
| 02:52.34 | Freedon | Happy Late-Birthday |
| 02:52.40 | ckknight | I have nothing against kicking trolls |
| 02:52.42 | Freedon | Ckknight, its the truth though :) |
| 02:52.54 | Freedon | not to sound like ajerk though |
| 02:53.02 | Health | I don't think there is much truth in that - and if you think about it.. that's just an expression |
| 02:53.14 | Freedon | Well I'm a Horde Elitist =) |
| 02:53.14 | ckknight | you sound like you need the grammar and spelling police to whip some shape into you |
| 02:53.17 | ckknight | with real whips. |
| 02:53.27 | Freedon | ckknight, /cry |
| 02:53.37 | ckknight | ~comfort Freedon |
| 02:53.45 | purl | There, there, Freedon. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 02:53.47 | Azurewrath | you scared him ;p |
| 02:53.47 | Freedon | health, are you using bongos? |
| 02:54.13 | Freedon | health, netscape fubar plugin? WHAT?!?1 |
| 02:54.35 | mjc | ? |
| 02:54.48 | Freedon | on his picture |
| 02:54.49 | Freedon | http://85.230.25.118/img/melt.jpg |
| 02:54.51 | ckknight | calm the fuck down, guy |
| 02:54.51 | Freedon | bottom left |
| 02:55.00 | Freedon | netscape addon? |
| 02:55.31 | Azurewrath | that does not look like Netscape.. |
| 02:55.33 | Freedon | and then after you see that plugin you can stare at his gold and be jealous |
| 02:56.23 | ckknight | Health, I want some gold |
| 02:56.27 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:56.40 | Freedon | anyone know what the "netscape looking addon is?" |
| 02:56.53 | ckknight | no |
| 02:56.57 | ckknight | bigwigs? |
| 02:57.13 | Azurewrath | nope, bigwigs still has that red standard thingie |
| 02:57.23 | ckknight | Freedon, you enUS? |
| 02:57.40 | Freedon | Ckknight, I assume that means do i live in the us? |
| 02:57.46 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:57.51 | Freedon | yep |
| 02:59.24 | ckknight | post here: http://12.129.252.27/thread.html?topicId=11491188&sid=1 |
| 02:59.29 | ckknight | say you want my babies or something. |
| 03:00.20 | Freedon | cant login with inactive account :( |
| 03:00.29 | Freedon | i would obviously say it if i could |
| 03:00.53 | ckknight | if you have an inactive account, then why are you here at all? |
| 03:01.01 | Freedon | cause i love ace addons =) |
| 03:01.08 | Tekcub | freak |
| 03:01.19 | Freedon | hey, at least i dont code =) |
| 03:01.34 | Azurewrath | go now, learn to code |
| 03:01.40 | Freedon | and plus i get to talk to some of you people |
| 03:01.41 | Azurewrath | i missed it when i was 13 ;) |
| 03:01.55 | Freedon | ckknight started when he was 10 |
| 03:01.59 | Freedon | thats still amazing |
| 03:02.10 | Freedon | coding confuses me |
| 03:02.26 | ckknight | actually, you probably could trace back to when I was 8 with QBasic |
| 03:02.30 | Azurewrath | normal i would say.. i started with 10 too.. 386 SX-33 :) |
| 03:02.32 | ckknight | but I didn't know what I was doing, then |
| 03:02.40 | ckknight | when I was 10, I started with C++ |
| 03:02.44 | ckknight | had a book and everything |
| 03:02.50 | Azurewrath | but today, 13 years later.. i'm more the hardware and network guy |
| 03:03.05 | Freedon | ckk whyd you code as a 10 year old? |
| 03:03.10 | Freedon | bored? |
| 03:03.10 | Kaelten | here is some beginning documentation |
| 03:03.11 | Kaelten | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceLocale-2.1_API_Documentation |
| 03:03.21 | ckknight | Freedon, my brother, a CS major, brought home a coding book |
| 03:03.22 | Azurewrath | Freedon: Fascination |
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| 03:03.25 | ckknight | so I read it |
| 03:03.31 | ckknight | turns out I'm good at it |
| 03:03.33 | Kaelten | Its not quite done nor is it proof read, please help me weed out mistakes |
| 03:03.45 | Freedon | we can all see ckk is a godly coder |
| 03:03.56 | ckknight | Kaelten, why can't I do :RegisterTranslation("name" or obj, "locale", translations) ? |
| 03:04.10 | Freedon | Kaelten, ill look for spelling errors |
| 03:04.24 | Kaelten | because RegisterTranslation is what you should be calling to actually create the obj |
| 03:04.51 | Kaelten | those should be called before you try to GetTranslation() |
| 03:04.55 | ckknight | but what's :new, then? |
| 03:05.02 | Kaelten | probably about to cease to exist |
| 03:05.11 | Kaelten | its been reduced to an internal process |
| 03:06.02 | ckknight | well, Babble is registered with AceLibrary |
| 03:06.19 | ckknight | also, I like the ability to add a function or so to a babble object |
| 03:06.24 | ckknight | such as the Class color |
| 03:06.27 | ckknight | or the spell icons |
| 03:06.58 | Kaelten | well you can add them on your custom translation objects, just remember that you can't localize those keys |
| 03:07.21 | Kaelten | Babble = AceLocale:GetTranslation("Babble") |
| 03:07.35 | Kaelten | function Babble:GetcolorClass() |
| 03:07.36 | Kaelten | end |
| 03:07.40 | ckknight | k |
| 03:07.50 | ckknight | :GetTranslation seems like a bad name |
| 03:08.08 | Kaelten | ya, I just named it that because I couldn't think of anything else to name it |
| 03:08.10 | Kaelten | :s |
| 03:08.16 | ckknight | because you register Translations, not a single Translation |
| 03:08.22 | ckknight | feel free to call it an instance |
| 03:08.37 | Kaelten | ya, although its not an instance of AceLocale |
| 03:08.43 | Kaelten | its a seperate type of object all togather |
| 03:09.41 | Kaelten | basic flow of use I see so far is 1) register translations 2) set dynamic if desired (can be done after the fact) 3) get translation forcing locale if desired |
| 03:10.06 | Kaelten | and then for the most part you should be able to do L(arg1, arg2) to get most everythign done. |
| 03:11.02 | Kaelten | ckknight: does that seem reasonable? |
| 03:11.20 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 03:11.28 | ckknight | I really wish it were backwards-incompatible |
| 03:11.41 | ckknight | inasmuch to do L:GetIterator() and whatnot |
| 03:12.12 | ckknight | thus allowing me to not have to release Babble 2.1 |
| 03:12.20 | Kaelten | ya me too, but it just wasn't really reasonable without loosing effeciancy |
| 03:12.41 | ckknight | I really don't see how it loses efficiency |
| 03:13.00 | ckknight | since it'd be set up through a metatable |
| 03:13.34 | ckknight | which would otherwise give an error if the translation didn't exist |
| 03:13.46 | ckknight | e.g. if I access L.GetIterator now, it should error at me, saying it doesn't exist |
| 03:13.47 | Kaelten | ya the problem I was having was the fact that att he end of it all you don't have any idea which locale object was the referencing one to get a "name" out of |
| 03:13.59 | ckknight | uid? |
| 03:14.23 | Kaelten | not available at that point in the translation because the metatable it'd be referncing from would actually be for the __curTranslation__ |
| 03:14.25 | Kaelten | table |
| 03:15.00 | ckknight | and the metatable structure is __curTranslation__ -> __baseTranslation__ -> error now |
| 03:15.03 | ckknight | right? |
| 03:15.09 | Kaelten | ya |
| 03:15.27 | ckknight | so in-between __baseTranslation__ and error, why can't the helper methods go in there? |
| 03:15.27 | Kaelten | so at the point where you'd want to test back the __baseTranslation__ would have to also have an uid |
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| 03:15.55 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:15.59 | Kaelten | having scope to see the uid is the issue |
| 03:15.59 | ckknight | kay. |
| 03:16.12 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 03:16.27 | Kaelten | I suppose the __baseTranslation__ could have an __uid__ field |
| 03:16.33 | ckknight | except I don't think that's necessary |
| 03:16.39 | ckknight | with the way metatables work |
| 03:16.49 | ckknight | self would still be referring to __curTranslation__ |
| 03:17.05 | ckknight | L.GetTranslation(L) |
| 03:17.07 | ckknight | see? |
| 03:17.10 | Kaelten | no actually self would be refering to AceLocal |
| 03:17.13 | Kaelten | no actually self would be refering to AceLocale |
| 03:17.14 | Health | http://66.250.45.101/~dtguild/ |
| 03:17.32 | Kaelten | the first argument passed into Index is the table being indexed |
| 03:17.32 | ckknight | L:GetIterator() turns into L.GetIterator(L) |
| 03:17.39 | ckknight | so you can check L.__uid__ can't you? |
| 03:17.44 | Kaelten | nope |
| 03:17.47 | Health | 4 horsemen down! |
| 03:17.51 | ckknight | where is the UID located? |
| 03:17.55 | ckknight | and what is L? |
| 03:18.05 | Kaelten | because in the __index = function(tbl, key) end |
| 03:18.15 | Kaelten | tbl would == __baseTranslation |
| 03:18.27 | Kaelten | key would == GetIterator |
| 03:18.33 | ckknight | right |
| 03:18.35 | ckknight | and that's fine |
| 03:18.56 | Kaelten | but the __uid__ is located two metatables back |
| 03:18.56 | ckknight | tbl["GetIterator"](L) |
| 03:19.01 | ckknight | that's how it works |
| 03:19.12 | MentalPower | Health: you're about an hour late |
| 03:19.19 | ckknight | even though tbl is __baseTranslation__ |
| 03:19.26 | ckknight | the first argument is _still_ L |
| 03:19.44 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 03:19.49 | Health | aww |
| 03:19.53 | Tem | oh man |
| 03:19.58 | Tem | this is soooooo ho |
| 03:19.59 | Tem | t |
| 03:20.03 | Tem | instant WSG |
| 03:20.04 | Tem | all night |
| 03:20.11 | Kaelten | nope because GetIterator expects argument one to be AceLocale |
| 03:20.32 | ckknight | Kaelten, write a new GetIterator method. |
| 03:20.34 | ckknight | tada. |
| 03:21.02 | ckknight | one that works like 2.0, not 2.1 |
| 03:21.18 | ckknight | that takes the instance as its first argument |
| 03:21.26 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 03:22.03 | Tain | Word to me and Prestor's Talisman of Connivery |
| 03:23.05 | ckknight | Kaelten, 'tis the awesomeness of lua's colon syntax |
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| 03:26.00 | Kaelten | let me play with it again |
| 03:31.08 | Kaelten | ok I have a proposal for new interface with it |
| 03:31.12 | Kaelten | slightly new interface anyway |
| 03:31.45 | Kaelten | ok AceLocale itself will have 2 public methods RegisterTranslation and GetInstance |
| 03:32.17 | Kaelten | L(arg1, arg2) structure will stay the same |
| 03:33.08 | Kaelten | GetInstance will take the uid as the first argument with an optional second argument to specify the desired locale or true for the default locale, if its nil or false it will not be localized yet |
| 03:33.12 | Azurewrath | mhm.. going to bed, good night :) |
| 03:33.54 | Kaelten | L will have SetLocale, SetDynamicLocales, SetStrictness, GetIterator, and GetReverseIterator, available as methods |
| 03:34.25 | Kaelten | night Azurewrath |
| 03:34.30 | Kaelten | ckknight: how does that sound? |
| 03:34.48 | ckknight | Okay, sounds good |
| 03:35.52 | ckknight | what about GetLooseTranslation and GetStrictTranslation? |
| 03:35.52 | Kaelten | hope my little explanation of GetInstance didn't sound as crazy as I think it did |
| 03:36.02 | ckknight | I think that the L(arg1, arg2) is unnecessary |
| 03:37.21 | Kaelten | hrm I prefere the arg1, arg2 rather than the 5 functions |
| 03:37.56 | ckknight | why? |
| 03:39.04 | ckknight | having :GetReverseTranslation and such would be more efficient than using the __call |
| 03:39.31 | ckknight | and who is going to really be using "GetReverseTranslation" as a key? |
| 03:39.58 | Kaelten | probably a style preference partly, I'm just liking the unified nature of it |
| 03:40.56 | Kaelten | I definately don't see the point of breaking loose and strict back out when thats a simple boolean. |
| 03:41.18 | Kaelten | L("text", true/false) |
| 03:41.26 | ckknight | oh, that's fine |
| 03:41.29 | ckknight | no biggie with that |
| 03:41.37 | ckknight | I'm talking about L("GetLoose", "text") |
| 03:41.42 | ckknight | I don't see the necessity for that |
| 03:41.48 | ckknight | and it seems so nonstandard anyway |
| 03:42.08 | ckknight | and the :HasTranslation and :HasReverseTranslation would be good as well |
| 03:42.18 | Kaelten | how about L("text", true/false/"r") |
| 03:42.29 | Kaelten | to replace Strict/Loose/Reverse |
| 03:43.03 | Kaelten | and then take the Hases out into their own functions |
| 03:43.23 | ckknight | just make it L("text", true/false/'reverse') |
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| 03:43.38 | ckknight | and the Has* would be good as their own methods |
| 03:43.54 | Kaelten | ya |
| 03:44.08 | Kaelten | and here I thought I was done with major changes |
| 03:44.20 | Kaelten | :s |
| 03:45.00 | ckknight | now if I were in your position, I'd just call it AceLocale-2.0, add in the dead methods temporarily and timebomb them. |
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| 03:45.32 | Kaelten | hrm let me see what I'm working with once I'm done, that might not be worth it |
| 03:45.48 | ckknight | I bet I could do it ;-) |
| 03:45.51 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:46.05 | Kaelten | I know I could do it, the question is is it worth it :) |
| 03:46.09 | ckknight | if you don't feel like it, I'll see if I could do it |
| 03:46.16 | ckknight | I think it'd be worth it |
| 03:46.19 | Kaelten | like I bet we could write a Ace1.x compatability wrapper for Ace2 |
| 03:46.32 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:46.42 | ckknight | well, I don't want to have both AceLocale-2.0 and AceLocale-2.1 |
| 03:46.48 | ckknight | especially when everything else has the nice -2.0 |
| 03:47.12 | Kaelten | lol |
| 03:47.24 | Kaelten | as time goes by things will end up incrementing version numbers |
| 03:47.28 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:47.33 | ckknight | but I don't want to, just yet |
| 03:48.15 | ckknight | Ace2 SP 1 ;-) |
| 03:48.23 | Kaelten | gods no |
| 03:48.28 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 03:48.41 | Kaelten | I think its past time we locked the api on the 2.0 libs |
| 03:48.59 | Kaelten | too many addons are using the libs now to go breaking them |
| 03:49.10 | Kaelten | even with timebombs it would get messy pretty quick |
| 03:49.15 | ckknight | I like timebombs |
| 03:49.19 | ckknight | they're workable if we make em long |
| 03:49.29 | ckknight | like 2-3 months long |
| 03:49.44 | Kaelten | ya, an addon developer gets lazy or quits and in the end whats the result? |
| 03:49.51 | ckknight | brb |
| 03:50.02 | Kaelten | users have a broken addon they can't explain, until one of them is code savy and realize that its our doing |
| 03:52.23 | frus` | new honorFu working nice so far, only still not working perfectly with SCT ;( |
| 03:52.39 | frus` | can just set it up in sct, so getting either double msg's or either none :) |
| 03:53.50 | fleetfoot | q: How expensive is it to register/unregister an event using AceEvent, and what happens if you try and register an event that is already registered? |
| 03:54.37 | fleetfoot | with the same function that is |
| 03:57.50 | Kaelten | k, guys, got an announcement. |
| 03:58.03 | Tem|WSG | teehee |
| 03:58.08 | Tem|WSG | 0 death AV |
| 03:58.16 | Tem|WSG | top KB too |
| 03:58.17 | Kaelten | Tommorow afternoon, NON-Dev access to the svn is going to get shutoff. |
| 03:58.51 | Kaelten | This is pretty much do to the massive ammount of traffic we've generated, in exccess of 2.5 GB a day |
| 03:58.57 | Kaelten | which on a svn is a ton of traffic and load |
| 03:58.58 | hyperChipmunk | =*( then I have to package addons again |
| 03:59.02 | ckknight | back |
| 03:59.03 | Kaelten | nope |
| 03:59.17 | kergoth | svn is not a release system :P |
| 03:59.19 | Kaelten | clads set up a post-commit folder for downloads |
| 03:59.23 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, hate to break it to you, but you're a dev |
| 03:59.29 | hyperChipmunk | ooh |
| 03:59.32 | hyperChipmunk | no, I mean my addons |
| 03:59.44 | hyperChipmunk | if I want anyone to use 'em =P |
| 03:59.48 | ckknight | Tem|WSG, Killtacular! |
| 03:59.55 | ckknight | ah, yea. |
| 03:59.55 | Tem|WSG | ckknight, :) |
| 04:00.07 | ckknight | frankly, I think it's a good move, Kaelten |
| 04:00.10 | Kaelten | post-commit the folder gets an updated with a new zip and changelog that anyone can download |
| 04:00.27 | Kaelten | its clads hardwork thats making it possible. he's going to make a formal post announcing the change in the morning |
| 04:00.37 | ckknight | changelog stretching back one revision or multiple revisions? |
| 04:00.39 | hyperChipmunk | that's awesome |
| 04:00.48 | Kaelten | ckknight: not sure, but we'll work on it. |
| 04:01.03 | Kaelten | http://svn.wowace.com/files/ |
| 04:01.59 | Health | IT |
| 04:02.06 | ckknight | hey, it even picks up externals |
| 04:02.31 | Tekcub | ^^ |
| 04:02.51 | Kaelten | yep and they'll be packaged every commit and may end up being hosted on wowace's main server to save load on the svn server |
| 04:02.55 | Kaelten | going to talk to clad about that |
| 04:03.13 | ckknight | saves me from having to package it up myself :-) |
| 04:03.28 | Kaelten | true |
| 04:03.49 | Tekcub | you know what'd be cool |
| 04:03.58 | Tekcub | A "publish to WoWI" button :) |
| 04:04.06 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:04.08 | Kaelten | maybe oneday |
| 04:04.14 | ckknight | Tekcub, I'm working with Dolby on that |
| 04:04.22 | Tekcub | kick ass |
| 04:04.48 | Kaelten | no ckknight we're going to have to lock the current api soon, |
| 04:04.59 | ckknight | how come? |
| 04:05.36 | Kaelten | well one, thats the purpose of having the library system we have |
| 04:05.46 | ckknight | fleetfoot, pretty cheap. It overwrites |
| 04:05.52 | ckknight | true... |
| 04:05.53 | Kaelten | so that you can hvae concurrent incompatabile versions of a library |
| 04:06.07 | ckknight | there are issues with libraries built on libraries, though |
| 04:06.15 | Kaelten | thats true |
| 04:06.22 | ckknight | i.e. if you change a base library, _all_ libraries must be changed |
| 04:06.38 | ckknight | that's why we can't really update AceOO-2.0 until 3.0 |
| 04:06.53 | fleetfoot | rightio, thx ckknight |
| 04:07.02 | ckknight | and that's why I don't want to update AceLocale, since Babble depends on it |
| 04:07.13 | ckknight | I wouldn't have an issue with AceHook-2.1 |
| 04:07.23 | ckknight | or AceConsole-2.1 |
| 04:07.31 | Firedancer | will the new system for the svn (since I'm not a dev) have the ability to grab a previous revision if you grab one and find out it's bugged? or will we need to remember to back our stuff up? I always forget to and used revert a few times just today lol |
| 04:07.34 | Kaelten | well and Babble-2.0 will continue to depend on AceLocale-2.0 |
| 04:07.35 | ckknight | or AceDB-2.1 |
| 04:07.48 | Kaelten | Firedancer: I'll ask clad about that |
| 04:07.58 | ckknight | Kaelten, if you release AceLocale-2.1, I'll have to release Babble-2.1 |
| 04:07.59 | Kaelten | But Babble-2.1 could depend on AceLocale-2.1 |
| 04:08.01 | Firedancer | okie thanks kael :) |
| 04:08.27 | ckknight | well, yes, but I don't want to have Babble-2.1 |
| 04:08.33 | Kaelten | well you don't have too. if you don't want to |
| 04:08.52 | ckknight | no, I'm to anal not to |
| 04:09.04 | Kaelten | then I'm afraid there might not be any hope for you :) |
| 04:09.05 | Kaelten | lol |
| 04:09.07 | ckknight | gotta use the shiniest possible |
| 04:09.09 | Firedancer | i fixed my copy of moonwolf's lern2count bongos plugin but i didn't want to ask for an svn account just to upload it cause I'm sure i'd mess stuff up and that would suck :\ |
| 04:09.24 | ckknight | because I don't want to propagate using an old system |
| 04:09.42 | ckknight | and I don't want someone using Babble-2.0 with AceLocale-2.0 but using AceLocale-2.1 in their own addons |
| 04:09.45 | Kaelten | but on the good side Babble-2.0 would be discontinued as far as your concerned and you wouldn't have to worry about that branch anymore |
| 04:09.58 | ckknight | essentially. |
| 04:10.10 | Kaelten | so as far as that goes it'd be the same thing |
| 04:10.16 | Firedancer | I see an archive button on that link ya posted but I guess since nothing has more revs it's just DLing the current one |
| 04:10.30 | Firedancer | so mebbe clad thought about it already ;p |
| 04:10.50 | Kaelten | maybe :) |
| 04:11.00 | Kaelten | I shot him a message already, so if not he'll get his memory jarred |
| 04:11.09 | ckknight | I still think it'd be doable to backport the enhancements to AceLocale-2.0 |
| 04:12.02 | Kaelten | possibily, |
| 04:12.53 | Kaelten | anywhoo I got to get to sleep so I'll work on AL2.1 in the AM |
| 04:13.01 | Kaelten | gnight guys |
| 04:13.18 | Tem|WSG | later KaeltenAway |
| 04:17.10 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r8985 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: Glory - changed :GetTodayHKs(["person"]) to :GetTodayHKs(["person" [, "realm"]]) |
| 04:21.55 | frus` | is there a way to block the existing honor SCT msg from the honorFu files? |
| 04:22.30 | ckknight | lemme install SCT |
| 04:22.34 | ckknight | then fix it for real |
| 04:23.36 | frus` | & wonder if the "target hostile flagholder" supports nicks with ö etc now, bit hard to test cause there's not much ppl with letters like that :D |
| 04:24.21 | ckknight | maybe. |
| 04:25.12 | frus` | hehe, will notice someday then :) |
| 04:26.06 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BD308.versanet.de) |
| 04:26.14 | frus` | was quite annoying cause the honor farming hrode team on our realm had Mellanmjölk & Droïd as druids, but won't meet them much anymore with xserver bg's =) |
| 04:26.35 | ckknight | someone needs to smack some sense into Grayhoof with regards to AceEvent |
| 04:26.41 | ckknight | SCT is hackish now |
| 04:30.25 | ckknight | I mean, it could really be optimized. |
| 04:30.27 | ckknight | by that, I mean, no wonder people like MSBT |
| 04:30.29 | ckknight | this needs work |
| 04:30.46 | frus` | well, it improved alot already with 5.0, so can imagine how it was before :p |
| 04:31.22 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r8986 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: HonorFu - now should work with SCT 5.0. |
| 04:31.25 | ckknight | plztest kthx |
| 04:31.29 | frus` | sec :) |
| 04:32.00 | frus` | good I'm in a wsg anyway :p |
| 04:33.03 | frus` | works, great :) |
| 04:33.27 | ckknight | great |
| 04:33.27 | frus` | or it did for 2 kills |
| 04:33.29 | frus` | then Error: Interface\AddOns\FuBar_HonorFu\HonorFu.lua:241: attempt to index field `BlizzardCombatTextEvent' (a nil value) :) |
| 04:33.36 | ckknight | okay |
| 04:34.03 | ckknight | hell |
| 04:34.13 | frus` | seems to appear when I stealth/unstealth |
| 04:34.22 | ckknight | right. |
| 04:34.22 | frus` | & other buffs/debuffs I guess |
| 04:34.46 | dreadlyone | did the change to fubar that added the independentProfile require any plugins with their own plugins to all be updated? and if so, if they aren't updated, would it cause plugins to break? |
| 04:35.05 | frus` | mine work at least :) |
| 04:35.28 | ckknight | plugins don't have plugins |
| 04:35.33 | ckknight | to the best of my knowledge |
| 04:35.36 | dreadlyone | meant profiles |
| 04:35.51 | dreadlyone | with their own profile settings. |
| 04:36.32 | ckknight | rephrase your question |
| 04:36.42 | dreadlyone | ok |
| 04:37.16 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r8987 10Quecho/Core.lua: |
| 04:37.17 | CIA-11 | Quecho |
| 04:37.17 | CIA-11 | - Now uses FuBar/Tablet to display data |
| 04:37.53 | dreadlyone | you think I can perhaps show you the error i am getting? because if i remove or disable the addon triggering the error and relog, another plugin/addon triggers the same error. |
| 04:38.23 | dreadlyone | perhaps that might be easier |
| 04:38.32 | ckknight | k? |
| 04:40.23 | dreadlyone | http://ace.pastey.net/393 |
| 04:40.33 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r8988 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: |
| 04:40.33 | CIA-11 | PeriodicTable |
| 04:40.33 | CIA-11 | - Added two missing soul bags |
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| 04:41.25 | dreadlyone | both those errors are recorded at the same time upon load |
| 04:43.08 | ckknight | don't you hate that peer bastard? He always disconnects me, too |
| 04:44.02 | ckknight | ~beer |
| 04:44.13 | purl | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
| 04:48.05 | FISKER_Q | frus`are you on the US servers? |
| 04:48.20 | frus` | nah EU |
| 04:48.24 | FISKER_Q | ah |
| 04:48.32 | FISKER_Q | cause if it was US you could just report them :P |
| 04:48.47 | FISKER_Q | they're not allowed to have special characters in their names |
| 04:48.57 | frus` | need that policy in eu |
| 04:49.03 | FISKER_Q | ^^ |
| 04:49.05 | frus` | it's like ¨ ´ ` ~ all over |
| 04:49.19 | FISKER_Q | I also hate hunters that name their pets "" |
| 04:49.31 | frus` | don't mind much tho, only for targetting flag carriers :) |
| 04:49.57 | dreadlyone | AceTargetLog :D |
| 04:50.34 | dreadlyone | helps a little with that kind of thing |
| 04:51.18 | frus` | so does HonorFu, only not if the special character is in the first 3 letters :) |
| 04:51.48 | FISKER_Q | oh so the four horsemen finally down :O |
| 04:51.50 | frus` | ah no, actually I'm wrong, it doesn't work at all with a special character :) |
| 04:52.06 | frus` | but /tar xxx does the trick in that case tho :p |
| 04:52.12 | frus` | luckily I'm a fast typer |
| 04:52.30 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.44 | frus` | no, that's not the issue |
| 04:52.44 | FISKER_Q | http://static.curse-gaming.com/nimage/318/four_horsemen_death_and_taxes_gm.jpg |
| 04:52.46 | FISKER_Q | lolololol |
| 04:52.54 | ckknight | frus`, I can't reproduce the error |
| 04:52.57 | frus` | honoFu doesn't register nicks with ö etc :), at least the old one didn't |
| 04:53.03 | frus` | weird |
| 04:53.15 | frus` | it stopped after a while though |
| 04:53.21 | frus` | just restarted client, started again |
| 04:54.23 | *** join/#wowace PProvost (n=PProvost@pool-71-112-41-198.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 04:56.16 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r8989 10FuBar_PoisonFu/Core.lua: |
| 04:56.16 | CIA-11 | FuBar_PoisonFu: |
| 04:56.16 | CIA-11 | - Added support for hiding the title text |
| 05:01.10 | frus` | getting it with only 4 addons enabled Fubar, honorFU, SCT & SCT_options |
| 05:02.14 | ckknight | what're the exact steps to reproduce? |
| 05:02.32 | frus` | reload ui, & buff myself with something |
| 05:02.38 | frus` | tested it on 3 different classes |
| 05:03.49 | frus` | none of the honorFu settings matter, testing several SCT settings now |
| 05:04.14 | frus` | (execpt the enable/disable setting ofc) |
| 05:05.23 | frus` | none of the SCT settings seem to matter either |
| 05:05.30 | ckknight | k... |
| 05:05.43 | ckknight | most recent SCT? |
| 05:06.12 | frus` | hmm, not sure if I have SVN version, thought grayhoof wouldn't update SVN anymore after release |
| 05:06.13 | frus` | will update |
| 05:06.59 | dreadlyone | he might not have, but libraries would have changed i guess that might affect that no? |
| 05:07.09 | frus` | true |
| 05:08.03 | ckknight | okay, apparently I'm not hooking correctly or something... |
| 05:08.43 | frus` | same with latest SVN version idd |
| 05:11.39 | ckknight | I know why it's fucked |
| 05:11.47 | ckknight | cause Grayhoof coded it wrong. |
| 05:12.14 | frus` | haha |
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| 05:18.20 | Theondry | If I have a table, "tbl = {}" and then say "tbl.a = 1; tbl.a = {}" what does tbl look like now? When I ask "tbl == {}" I get false. |
| 05:18.34 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r8990 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: HonorFu - bugfix in hooks |
| 05:18.46 | ckknight | tables are references. {} ~= {} |
| 05:19.38 | Theondry | Then how do I find out if I've removed all the entries in the table? |
| 05:19.46 | frus` | working like a charm now :) |
| 05:19.47 | frus` | tnx :) |
| 05:19.49 | Tekcub | "if next(tbl) then" if you wnat to see if a table is non-empty |
| 05:20.11 | Theondry | I thought that only worked for tables indexed by numbers. |
| 05:20.27 | Tekcub | no, you're thinking ipairs() |
| 05:20.36 | Tekcub | next goes with pairs() |
| 05:20.44 | Theondry | *sigh* Thank you. |
| 05:21.06 | ckknight | I'm still fixing sct. |
| 05:21.14 | Tekcub | kek |
| 05:21.36 | Tekcub | didn't he get all bitchy that compost didn't fix his memory issues? |
| 05:21.42 | Tekcub | or was that someone else? |
| 05:22.45 | ckknight | he uses AceEvent like a noob. |
| 05:22.50 | Tekcub | hehe |
| 05:22.51 | ckknight | I'm fixing it. |
| 05:23.03 | ckknight | this is a dark path, friend |
| 05:23.27 | ckknight | I know that by doing this, it will be changed, tossed asunder by the rest of the world |
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| 05:24.18 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r8991 10HealHub/ (10 files in 3 dirs): HealHub: Practically rewrote the entire mod, as my previous creations turned into an unstable monster. This is my official base point, a stable, GUI-less, yet feature-complete version. |
| 05:25.28 | PProvost | hehe... check-in comments like that always make me laugh |
| 05:25.40 | ckknight | fun. |
| 05:25.48 | PProvost | 'cause we've all been there :) |
| 05:26.01 | eternally777 | heh, got a little ahead of myself. |
| 05:26.36 | eternally777 | In the past few weeks, that's actually the first version that totally works that I've ever uploaded. |
| 05:26.50 | PProvost | Congrats |
| 05:27.24 | ckknight | I rewrote FuBar let's see... |
| 05:27.35 | eternally777 | haha, ty. |
| 05:27.39 | ckknight | 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4, 0.9/1.0, 1.2, 2.0 |
| 05:27.41 | ckknight | that many times. |
| 05:28.05 | ckknight | 0.1-0.4 was beta, but it had to have been rewritten at least once in between there |
| 05:28.08 | frus` | and I'm sure it's not the last :) |
| 05:28.21 | ckknight | and from 0.4 - 1.0 it was tweaked heavily |
| 05:28.29 | ckknight | then from 1.0 to 1.2 it was practically rewritten |
| 05:28.43 | ckknight | and from 1.2 to 2.0 it was essentially reworked to work with Ace2 |
| 05:28.47 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 05:29.38 | PProvost | Hey ckknight, back up a few lines and you wrote "he uses AceEvent like a noob". Can you educate a few of us noobs about what he did wrong so we can all learn from it? |
| 05:31.51 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:31.59 | ckknight | two major things |
| 05:32.09 | ckknight | self:RegisterEvent("SomeEvent", self.MyMethod) |
| 05:32.20 | ckknight | instead of self:RegisterEvent("SomeEvent", "MyMethod") |
| 05:32.25 | ckknight | two: |
| 05:32.31 | ckknight | he used a generic OnEvent method |
| 05:32.38 | ckknight | then checked _G.event as to what it should do |
| 05:32.46 | ckknight | instead of having separate methods for each event |
| 05:32.49 | ckknight | which is more efficient |
| 05:33.00 | PProvost | I understand #2, can you expand on #1? |
| 05:33.24 | Theondry | (as some of us scramble to check and see which one we use.) |
| 05:33.29 | ckknight | self:RegisterEvent("SomeEvent", self.MyMethod) vs. self:RegisterEvent("SomeEvent", "MyMethod") ? |
| 05:33.30 | PProvost | lol |
| 05:33.35 | PProvost | Yes |
| 05:33.42 | ckknight | the first gives a direct reference to the function |
| 05:33.52 | PProvost | Ahhh! Gotcha |
| 05:33.59 | ckknight | but in doing so, a few things happen |
| 05:34.06 | ckknight | self.MyMethod() is called instead of self:MyMethod() |
| 05:34.17 | ckknight | and it prevents hooking from happening |
| 05:34.24 | ckknight | cause if you register, then hook, it doesn't work properly |
| 05:34.29 | ckknight | but the second does work properly |
| 05:35.08 | PProvost | Cool, thanks for the explanation. It sure would be nice if we could collect some of this stuff better into the wiki. |
| 05:35.18 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r8992 10HealHub/Locales/: HealHub: Deleting unnecessary locale files. |
| 05:36.17 | ckknight | actualyl he did a third one as well |
| 05:36.25 | ckknight | he used the global arg1 instead of the local one |
| 05:36.30 | Theondry | ckk: I have self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_ADDON")... I should use self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MESSAGE_ADDON", "functionname") instead? I have a function somewhere else that's MyAddon:CHAT_MSG_ADDON; is that bad? |
| 05:36.33 | ckknight | self:MyMethod() dosomethingto(arg1) end |
| 05:36.37 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r8993 10HealHub/ (Locale-enUS.lua Locales/ Locales/enUS.lua): HealHub: Replacing the locale file (which was apparently necessary after all). |
| 05:36.43 | ckknight | instead of self:MyMethod(myVar) dosomethingto(myVar) end |
| 05:36.50 | ckknight | no, Theondry |
| 05:36.53 | ckknight | you're fine. |
| 05:37.03 | eternally777 | Alright, I'm going to bed. Have a good night :) |
| 05:37.05 | ckknight | self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_ADDON") turns into self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_ADDON", "CHAT_MSG_ADDON") |
| 05:37.32 | ckknight | the first is more appropriate |
| 05:38.11 | Theondry | But if I wanted it to call another function, then I should do self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_ADDON", "functionname")? |
| 05:38.42 | ckknight | yep. |
| 05:38.49 | Theondry | Okay. Thanks. |
| 05:40.01 | ckknight | gah |
| 05:40.04 | ckknight | can't upload to SCT |
| 05:40.12 | ckknight | damn restrictions on other people's work. |
| 05:40.26 | ckknight | when's that bastard coming online? |
| 05:40.28 | ckknight | ~seen Grayhoof |
| 05:41.00 | purl | i haven't seen 'grayhoof', ckknight |
| 05:41.00 | FISKER_Q | can't you just branch it and write a note to him? |
| 05:41.00 | Kebinusan | he's never on irc |
| 05:41.00 | FISKER_Q | i don't think he's on IRC |
| 05:41.00 | ckknight | gah. |
| 05:41.00 | Kebinusan | flog him on the wowace forums |
| 05:41.28 | Kebinusan | ~whaletubes Dragonblight-US |
| 05:41.34 | purl | ACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into Dragonblight-US's tubes. Dragonblight-US's internets no worky :( |
| 05:41.46 | Kebinusan | This realm is so annoying |
| 05:42.04 | Theondry | Hmm... Apparently I receive my on addon messages in raids. I had not expected this. |
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| 05:47.10 | frus` | damn even worse, dude carrying the flag Ödlurx |
| 05:47.18 | frus` | not working with honorfu, & takes ages to type :) |
| 05:47.37 | FISKER_Q | gonna reboot |
| 05:47.38 | FISKER_Q | brb |
| 05:47.58 | ckknight | alt-0.252dlurx |
| 05:48.00 | frus` | time to test acetargetlog :p |
| 05:48.11 | Theondry | Why can't I put "self.hasIcon = <pathname>" into OnInitialize, and have it do what I want? |
| 05:48.16 | frus` | hehe luckily it's a bit better on EU keyboards :p |
| 05:48.25 | frus` | just shift + ^ & then O :p |
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| 05:48.42 | ckknight | Theondry, because you touch yourself at night. Just set self.hasIcon = true, then do self:SetIcon("pathname") later. |
| 05:49.31 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r8994 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_PoisonFu.toc Libs/ Locale_enUS.lua): |
| 05:49.31 | CIA-11 | FuBar_PoisonFu: |
| 05:49.31 | CIA-11 | - Completed localization of UI strings |
| 05:49.31 | CIA-11 | - Removed manual colorization of string and switched to Crayon-2.0 |
| 05:49.37 | Theondry | Well, that's not going to change any time soon, I guess. |
| 05:53.13 | ckknight | someone with deep, rich, American blood comment on this: http://12.129.252.27/thread.html?topicId=11491188&sid=1 |
| 05:54.10 | Theondry | If the bottle of it I keep near my bedside qualifies me... what's up with "mosey"? |
| 05:55.01 | ckknight | it's part of the colloquialism "mosey on over" |
| 05:55.12 | ckknight | means to meanderingly go somewhere |
| 05:55.24 | Theondry | I'm a Texan, and I've never advocated any sort of mosying. |
| 05:56.44 | ckknight | I bet you have, but you're just ashamed to admit it |
| 05:56.50 | ckknight | c'mon, stand up and be proud |
| 05:56.57 | Theondry | It would be like expecting someone from Oz to be proficient with crocodiles. |
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| 05:58.03 | ckknight | you know what's fucked up? |
| 05:58.17 | FISKER_Q | ? |
| 05:58.54 | ckknight | at the rates I charge, FuBar, had it been commercially developed, would cost about $20k |
| 05:59.04 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:59.23 | FISKER_Q | do you accept paypal? |
| 05:59.25 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 05:59.26 | ckknight | that's a lowball |
| 05:59.36 | ckknight | it's probably closer to $40k |
| 05:59.41 | ckknight | I don't keep good track of the hours |
| 05:59.44 | ckknight | so I'm just guessing |
| 06:01.55 | PProvost | Yeah, $20k seems low for the number of versions over time you've done. |
| 06:03.35 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r8995 10FuBar_PoisonFu/Core.lua: |
| 06:03.35 | CIA-11 | FuBar_PoisonFu: |
| 06:03.35 | CIA-11 | - Fixed minor typo that caused an error on tooltip for offhand weapon. Damn dynamic languages :) |
| 06:03.48 | ckknight | I count by hours |
| 06:03.56 | ckknight | and if I worked at a shitty job |
| 06:04.21 | ckknight | along with a month and a half hiatus that I devoted to Ace2 and like no FuBar work |
| 06:04.48 | PProvost | Where do you live? What are consulting rates like there? |
| 06:06.27 | ckknight | well, I was living in Chicago |
| 06:06.30 | ckknight | now I live in Hawaii |
| 06:08.37 | PProvost | Rates is Chicago aren't low. I have no idea about Hawaii. I'm thinking the $40k number is still too low. :D |
| 06:08.58 | FISKER_Q | omg |
| 06:09.02 | FISKER_Q | honorfu is spamming me |
| 06:09.28 | FISKER_Q | Attempt to index field "BlizzardCombatTextEvent' a nil value |
| 06:09.32 | FISKER_Q | on line 241 :/ |
| 06:09.37 | frus` | update to latest :) |
| 06:10.39 | ckknight | PProvost, well, let's say I worked about 400 hours on FuBar |
| 06:10.48 | frus` | damn 8:10 am :/ |
| 06:10.51 | frus` | gn ppl :p |
| 06:10.51 | ckknight | wait, that seems low |
| 06:10.59 | FISKER_Q | i just updated to the lastest |
| 06:11.03 | FISKER_Q | unless you updated while i was rebooting |
| 06:11.18 | ckknight | um, what's 6 months at somewhere between 2-30 hours of coding a day? |
| 06:11.55 | ckknight | it'd probably be close to 1000 hours |
| 06:12.06 | ckknight | this is not including Ace2 time |
| 06:15.47 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 06:17.11 | PProvost | 2-30? or 2-3? |
| 06:19.04 | ckknight | 2-30 |
| 06:19.22 | ckknight | 30's about the max I went |
| 06:19.44 | PProvost | Avg probably 3-4 though. The spikes are offset by breaks, right? |
| 06:19.53 | ckknight | not really |
| 06:20.12 | ckknight | it's more like I work like 3 30 hour sessions in a row |
| 06:20.27 | ckknight | then go back to 16 hour sessions |
| 06:20.30 | ckknight | and such |
| 06:20.33 | Zicon | 30-hour sessions? Ok, I'm impressed. |
| 06:20.36 | ckknight | for like 2 months. |
| 06:20.39 | PProvost | You retired? :) |
| 06:20.40 | ckknight | yea... |
| 06:20.54 | ckknight | no, just unemployed |
| 06:21.09 | ckknight | mostly, I didn't look for a job cause I was too busy coding |
| 06:21.31 | ckknight | I'm only 19, PProvost |
| 06:21.55 | PProvost | Fair enough. |
| 06:21.59 | ckknight | on september 5, my title becomes "Student" |
| 06:22.10 | PProvost | I've got you doubled. :D |
| 06:22.20 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 06:22.26 | ckknight | but here's a trickier question: |
| 06:22.30 | ckknight | who's been coding longer? |
| 06:22.38 | PProvost | I've been coding since before you were born. |
| 06:22.48 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 06:22.54 | ckknight | I'll trump you another way |
| 06:23.01 | ckknight | I bet I know more languages than you |
| 06:23.02 | PProvost | But I'm still learning Lua and want to learn from all you guys. |
| 06:23.07 | PProvost | I know I'm a newbie on this stuff. |
| 06:23.09 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:23.17 | PProvost | Fair enough. It is all good to me. |
| 06:23.31 | PProvost | I like to have lots of different kinds of developers around me. |
| 06:23.35 | ckknight | well that was a haphazard victory |
| 06:23.38 | PProvost | More to learn and lots more fun. |
| 06:23.44 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:24.03 | ckknight | just remember that many great scientists (Newton and the like) did their greatest work in their early 20s |
| 06:24.11 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 06:24.17 | PProvost | I hear ya. My best days are behind me. No doubt about it. |
| 06:24.22 | ckknight | oh well |
| 06:24.29 | ckknight | now that that's behind us |
| 06:24.32 | Theondry | Fields medal's only awarded if you're under 40. Makes me worried. |
| 06:24.43 | PProvost | In fact, I'm now a development manager so I spend my spare time coding Lua to keep my skills active. |
| 06:24.48 | Theondry | <-- mathematician |
| 06:24.51 | PProvost | And having fun doing it. |
| 06:25.02 | ckknight | I'll end up being a broker or a professor or something |
| 06:25.12 | ckknight | quite unlikely I'll end up coding for a living |
| 06:25.18 | ckknight | not my nature |
| 06:25.48 | ckknight | or a massage therapist |
| 06:25.50 | PProvost | Yeah, I had 4 majors over 7.5 years in college. Couldn't believe that my hobby (programming) would become my job... but then it did anyway. |
| 06:25.51 | kergoth | i went into coding for a living, and i quite regret it |
| 06:25.52 | ckknight | that could be cool |
| 06:25.59 | ckknight | kergoth, good times. |
| 06:26.00 | kergoth | completely ruined coding for me |
| 06:26.09 | kergoth | well, not completely, but its getting there |
| 06:26.10 | kergoth | :P |
| 06:26.12 | ckknight | totally |
| 06:26.16 | dreyruugr | What kind of coding? |
| 06:26.21 | ckknight | goddamn GE wanted me to update COBOL code into C# |
| 06:26.27 | ckknight | but keep the same outward API |
| 06:26.31 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/resume.pdf |
| 06:26.31 | ckknight | I mean, wtf, guy! |
| 06:26.38 | kergoth | ick |
| 06:27.12 | ckknight | not a fun experience |
| 06:27.15 | dreyruugr | nice |
| 06:27.26 | PProvost | So, back to the topic... 40 hours per week @ $75 per hour is $3,000 per week. A more reasonable rate for a professional consultant developer is probably $90-$120 depending on where you live. Do the math and it is a lot of money. |
| 06:27.43 | ckknight | oh, it was closer to 60-80 hours a week |
| 06:27.54 | ckknight | and I don't get overtime or health benefits :-P |
| 06:28.09 | dreyruugr | eww |
| 06:28.35 | Theondry | You don't get overtime or benefits because you charge 75 an hour. |
| 06:28.41 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:28.42 | dreyruugr | you'd have to love your job to work those kinds of hours |
| 06:28.55 | kergoth | i dont make much, i'm down to $69K/yr at this job. enough to get by, but.. |
| 06:28.57 | ckknight | dreyruugr, that's what I did for FuBar |
| 06:29.17 | dreyruugr | But did you enjoy working on FuBar? |
| 06:29.55 | ckknight | yea, except when people message me all at the same time |
| 06:29.57 | ckknight | I have issues with that |
| 06:30.37 | dreyruugr | You can always remove that distraction if need b |
| 06:30.39 | dreyruugr | be |
| 06:30.46 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:32.35 | ckknight | also, working on FuBar, I didn't have someone micromanaging me or telling me what to do |
| 06:32.47 | ckknight | which is nice |
| 06:33.41 | dreyruugr | heh |
| 06:34.37 | ckknight | I am a slave to no one, but the dance! |
| 06:35.30 | dreyruugr | sounds like you're a slave to FuBar :) |
| 06:36.46 | ckknight | I so wish I was paid for it. |
| 06:36.53 | ckknight | I would've totally gotten more RAM by now. |
| 06:37.48 | dreyruugr | Get a job developing games :) |
| 06:38.29 | ckknight | I wonder how hard it'd be to get a job at Blizzard working on the UI team... |
| 06:38.30 | Theondry | Is there a way to force a fubar tooltip to not smoosh itself so small that the title gets truncated? (i.e, from "SnaFu" to "Sn...") |
| 06:38.38 | Rophy | anyone got a working wow blp viewer? the one at http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-180-1-blp2-viewer.html seems to contain a trojan. |
| 06:38.47 | ckknight | Theondry, you're using a wierd font. |
| 06:39.04 | Theondry | conflict with ClearFont, maybe? |
| 06:39.09 | dreyruugr | It's only as hard as applyin |
| 06:39.11 | dreyruugr | g |
| 06:39.31 | dreyruugr | You've got good sample work that's relevant to the position |
| 06:39.55 | ckknight | how would one, namely me, apply? |
| 06:40.22 | ckknight | I'm willing to move to California in December |
| 06:40.29 | dreyruugr | Resume |
| 06:40.33 | dreyruugr | Cover sheet |
| 06:40.53 | dreyruugr | Relevant work experience... links to your addons and other programming work |
| 06:41.21 | dreyruugr | Getting into games is more reliant on talent and experience than college degrees |
| 06:41.23 | Theondry | Not links. zip file or diskette. |
| 06:41.27 | dreyruugr | So focus on what your can do |
| 06:41.43 | ckknight | yea, I totally don't have college experience :-P |
| 06:41.58 | kergoth | emphasize your strengths in the resume, downplay your weaknesses |
| 06:42.06 | ckknight | what weaknesses? |
| 06:42.08 | ckknight | I'm perfect |
| 06:42.09 | dreyruugr | Disks are ok, links are good though, easy to mail out to coworkers... i.e. "Check out this guys stuff, he just applied." |
| 06:42.11 | ckknight | and you know it ;-) |
| 06:42.21 | Theondry | ckk: You just need to finish this level and then tighten up the graphics. =p |
| 06:42.31 | ckknight | level? |
| 06:42.36 | dreyruugr | haha |
| 06:42.52 | Theondry | reference to a tv commercial. |
| 06:42.59 | ckknight | oh |
| 06:43.02 | ckknight | I don't watch TV |
| 06:43.27 | ckknight | is Irving in North or South California? |
| 06:43.27 | Theondry | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22tighten+up+the+graphics%22&btnG=Search |
| 06:44.22 | dreyruugr | http://www.infinityward.com/jobs.htm |
| 06:44.28 | dreyruugr | apply :) |
| 06:44.56 | ckknight | lol. |
| 06:45.25 | ckknight | man, it's been a while since I did actual 3d game development |
| 06:45.30 | ckknight | like a 2 years |
| 06:45.36 | ckknight | s/a 2/2/ |
| 06:45.53 | dreyruugr | It's not all 3D |
| 06:46.00 | dreyruugr | We need a UI guy :) |
| 06:46.24 | ckknight | we? |
| 06:46.47 | dreyruugr | infinity ward |
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| 06:46.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 06:48.09 | ckknight | Cairenn, we just finished level 3 and need to tighten up the graphics. |
| 06:48.59 | ckknight | lol. |
| 06:49.04 | ckknight | that commercial is so funny |
| 06:50.45 | CIA-11 | 03theondry * r8996 10SnaFu/ (Changes.txt SnaFu-enUS.lua SnaFu.lua SnaFu.toc readme.txt): (log message trimmed) |
| 06:50.45 | CIA-11 | SnaFu |
| 06:50.45 | CIA-11 | 1.6 25Aug06 |
| 06:50.45 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.45 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.46 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.48 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.58 | ckknight | dreyruugr, I never played Call of Duty |
| 06:50.59 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:51.02 | ckknight | hehe |
| 06:51.11 | dreyruugr | It's never too late :) |
| 06:52.00 | PProvost | Can you guys recommend a quest mod? I've been using Monkey Quest, but it looks like he isn't updating any more and there has to be something running on Ace. |
| 06:52.06 | Theondry | QuestFu |
| 06:53.24 | FISKER_Q | nobody knows why i underscore is underlining? |
| 06:53.28 | FISKER_Q | anyone else have the problem? |
| 06:53.42 | kergoth | FISKER_Q: in wow? the new version of clearfont has fucked up things with the _ |
| 06:53.47 | kergoth | i ended up reverting mine |
| 06:54.07 | FISKER_Q | aaj |
| 06:54.09 | FISKER_Q | aaah |
| 06:54.34 | FISKER_Q | makes sense now |
| 06:54.38 | ckknight | dreyruugr, meh, I find most modern FPSes too Rambo-style |
| 06:54.58 | Theondry | *sigh* worst part of using Ace2 is that my 40k addon sucks up 500k on disk. |
| 06:55.05 | kergoth | i miss doom 2, some days |
| 06:55.08 | dreyruugr | Most are |
| 06:55.37 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:55.42 | ckknight | and I don't like that so much |
| 06:55.47 | dreyruugr | CoD2 wasn't |
| 06:55.53 | ckknight | alright |
| 06:56.02 | ckknight | America's Army is pretty fun now and again |
| 06:56.03 | dreyruugr | Use cover or die |
| 06:56.08 | ckknight | and I like Halo |
| 06:56.25 | ckknight | but really, I'm more fond of games like Civ4 or WoW |
| 06:56.46 | Theondry | g'night, folks. I'm old and it's late. |
| 06:56.54 | *** part/#wowace Theondry (i=user@ppp-70-132-232-180.dsl.elpstx.swbell.net) |
| 06:57.32 | dreyruugr | Is there a way to make a dewdrop menu stay open? |
| 06:57.36 | ckknight | nope. |
| 06:57.43 | ckknight | except by hovering over it |
| 06:57.52 | ckknight | it's not meant to stay open |
| 06:58.16 | dreyruugr | that's your fault... you made it too flexible |
| 06:58.18 | dreyruugr | :) |
| 06:58.28 | FISKER_Q | nice |
| 06:58.31 | FISKER_Q | i was standing 1337 last week |
| 06:59.27 | ckknight | good times. |
| 06:59.31 | ckknight | dreyruugr, ;-) |
| 06:59.48 | ckknight | I'm not really in the mood to go job hunting |
| 06:59.58 | ckknight | I'm starting school soon and such |
| 07:04.42 | dreyruugr | no worries |
| 07:05.30 | kergoth | i really derive almost no enjoyment out of this coding anymore. i no longer want anything to do with computing, other than gaming, unless i have to, now |
| 07:05.35 | kergoth | depressing |
| 07:07.02 | ckknight | must be |
| 07:07.09 | dreyruugr | same advice I gave ckknight... get into games :) |
| 07:07.12 | ckknight | I don't get joy out of gaming anymore, just out of coding. |
| 07:07.14 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:08.25 | kergoth | coding has become synonymous with 'work'. completely ruined. anyone have any ideas for a new career, thatll still let me take home $4K/month or more? :P |
| 07:08.27 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r8997 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - bugfix in :IsTextShown |
| 07:08.45 | ckknight | kergoth, broker, if you're good at it |
| 07:08.51 | kergoth | hmm |
| 07:09.05 | ckknight | I've gotten 40% in a 3 month timespan just a little while ago |
| 07:09.34 | ckknight | handy if you're well versed in statistics, probabilities, and databasing |
| 07:09.47 | ckknight | some rough knowledge in economics might help as well |
| 07:10.16 | *** join/#wowace Laric (n=Laric@146.192.138.33) |
| 07:10.22 | ckknight | or a massage therapist |
| 07:10.25 | ckknight | or a chef |
| 07:10.31 | ckknight | those could be fun |
| 07:10.36 | kergoth | i remember the time i burned soup |
| 07:10.56 | ckknight | once I almost died after putting on mac and cheese then falling asleep |
| 07:11.03 | ckknight | I was so confused. |
| 07:11.12 | ckknight | woke up, alarms were going |
| 07:11.15 | Laric | Kemayo you here? |
| 07:11.16 | ckknight | thought it was my alarm clock |
| 07:11.17 | kergoth | hahah |
| 07:11.34 | ckknight | but no, it was the fire alarm |
| 07:11.38 | Laric | morning ppl |
| 07:11.48 | ckknight | and the kitchen is in a separate place, so I didn't know it was going for a while |
| 07:12.02 | ckknight | and I had woken up with a horrible cough from all the smoke |
| 07:12.04 | kergoth | i was at the ottawa linux symposium one time, hopped in the shower, left the bathroom door open, the fucking steam set off the fire alarm |
| 07:12.05 | ckknight | didn't know why |
| 07:12.12 | ckknight | thought I was seriously going to die |
| 07:12.20 | ckknight | ooh, damn |
| 07:12.33 | ckknight | funny, though |
| 07:12.33 | kergoth | thank god i was there by myself |
| 07:12.42 | kergoth | me in the buff flapping a towel at the fire alarm had to be funny |
| 07:13.14 | Laric | is there any way to find out if an addon isnt enabled? ace addon I mean that is loaded and all just not enabled in ace |
| 07:13.15 | Fritti | hrm, getting this error when doing /ackbar standby: http://ace.pastey.net/394 |
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| 07:13.26 | Fritti | prob is, that's an AceAddon handler :) |
| 07:14.09 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r8998 10EarPlug/Earplug.toc: EarPlug - TOC Update |
| 07:14.43 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r8999 10FuBar_NavigatorFu/FuBar_NavigatorFu.toc: NavigatorFu - TOC Update |
| 07:14.45 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9000 10Lexan/ (Changelog.txt Lexan.toc): |
| 07:14.45 | CIA-11 | Lexan |
| 07:14.45 | CIA-11 | - TOC Update |
| 07:14.45 | CIA-11 | - Metadata updated for 2.1 release |
| 07:15.07 | Neronix`sleep | /leaveraid |
| 07:15.12 | Neronix`sleep | /gquit |
| 07:15.15 | Neronix`sleep | /quit |
| 07:15.55 | ckknight | lol? |
| 07:15.58 | kergoth | .. |
| 07:16.16 | Laric | hmm gotta be someway to know if an addon is active or not... |
| 07:16.32 | ckknight | Laric, IsAddOnEnabled("name") |
| 07:16.33 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:16.54 | Laric | no not loaded.. I mean a fubar plugin that is disabled |
| 07:17.48 | ckknight | plugin:IsDisabled() |
| 07:18.01 | Laric | oh nice :P |
| 07:18.40 | FISKER_Q | lol |
| 07:18.41 | ckknight | which basically checks .IsActive and not :IsActive() |
| 07:18.44 | FISKER_Q | entrapment is retarded |
| 07:19.03 | FISKER_Q | frost trap aura = permanent freezing trap that doesn't break on damage with entrapment |
| 07:19.06 | FISKER_Q | :( |
| 07:19.30 | Laric | so in bindings. xml I do http://ace.pastey.net/396 to make sure it is active? |
| 07:19.37 | kergoth | FISKER_Q: agreed |
| 07:21.10 | ckknight | right |
| 07:21.13 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 07:21.17 | kergoth | i hate webpages for taiwanese companies |
| 07:21.23 | ckknight | probably. |
| 07:21.38 | ckknight | alternatively, there's :IsActive(), provided by AceDB |
| 07:22.47 | Laric | is there anyway to ditch bindings.xml or is that the last forced xml file? |
| 07:23.22 | kergoth | there's no way to create keybindings programmatically, if thats what you're asking, afaik |
| 07:23.45 | CIA-11 | 03laric * r9001 10AoFHeal/ (AoFHeal.lua AoFHeal.toc Bindings.xml): |
| 07:23.45 | CIA-11 | AoFHeal: |
| 07:23.46 | CIA-11 | - Fixed my usage of Rosterlib |
| 07:23.46 | CIA-11 | - Upped TOC |
| 07:23.46 | CIA-11 | - Fixed keybindings even if disabled. |
| 07:24.31 | Laric | kergoth time to start lobbying then :P |
| 07:24.33 | ckknight | kergoth, kinda sucks that there isn't, but oh well |
| 07:26.12 | Thiana | What is a good 'hud' type addon for a feral druid? |
| 07:26.32 | Laric | icehud rocks anything :P |
| 07:26.38 | Thiana | While you're at it, lobby for a saved variables per realm *glares at Auctioneer* |
| 07:27.13 | Laric | thiana the problem is I am euro trash and not deemed worthy of talking to anyone who listens on the forums |
| 07:27.24 | Thiana | *blink* |
| 07:27.41 | FISKER_Q | indeed Laric |
| 07:27.50 | Thiana | Blizzard gives the EU realms even less attention than the US ones? I didnt think that was possible. |
| 07:27.55 | FISKER_Q | EU users don't have any rights |
| 07:28.00 | FISKER_Q | they do |
| 07:28.05 | evl | that's not true |
| 07:28.07 | Laric | try the euro interface forums.. it is really fun... empty |
| 07:28.23 | evl | EU has a much stricter customer <-> business law framework |
| 07:28.38 | FISKER_Q | ? |
| 07:28.47 | Laric | evl and that means we cannot have CM's that do something else than close threads? |
| 07:29.06 | evl | Dunno, I don't read forums |
| 07:29.23 | Thiana | Anyone recall off hand how many item slots are in the buyback tab when you're at a merchant? |
| 07:29.27 | kergoth | Thiana: what sort of info do you want in the hud? i use omegahud myself, for all chars that need a hud |
| 07:29.47 | FISKER_Q | i believe it's 12 |
| 07:29.49 | Laric | Thiana 12 |
| 07:29.51 | evl | 12 |
| 07:29.55 | FISKER_Q | but i'm at a vendor so i'll go look |
| 07:30.13 | Thiana | kergoth: I want combo points, energy timer, energy *number*, and if possible some way to see party health? but the latter isnt important. |
| 07:30.16 | Thiana | Thanks :) |
| 07:30.32 | Laric | kergoth where can i find omegahud? |
| 07:30.34 | FISKER_Q | yup 12 |
| 07:30.37 | Laric | to check it out |
| 07:31.33 | kergoth | for my rogue, i use omegahud+gonffbar. http://kergoth.com/images/wow_040.jpg is a good shot showing it. though i no longer enable perfectraid for my rogue, no need to see that level of detail |
| 07:32.15 | CIA-11 | 03greywind * r9002 10Shifter/ (Locals.en.lua Shifter.lua): Shifter: ok I'm hoping I fixed the errors on line 5 of Shifter.lua and line 46 of Locals.en.lua |
| 07:32.50 | Thiana | kergoth: Does that overlap the msbt text? |
| 07:34.31 | kergoth | Thiana: not on mine, i moved the msbt frames slightly |
| 07:34.47 | kergoth | changed the defaults in the msbt .lua, to ensure it was that way by default in my addon set |
| 07:34.50 | kergoth | heh |
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| 07:36.05 | Thiana | Where is omegahud hosted? |
| 07:38.16 | kergoth | http://www.omegadrivers.net/files/wow/omega_hud_086.zip |
| 07:38.19 | kergoth | found it in my irc logs |
| 07:38.24 | Thiana | Thanks L( |
| 07:38.26 | kergoth | make sure you go into /ohud menu and disable the border optoin |
| 07:38.26 | Thiana | Thanks :) |
| 07:38.28 | kergoth | option |
| 07:38.37 | kergoth | it looks like shit by default, since the border is shown |
| 07:38.44 | kergoth | i almost deleted it before i noticed :P |
| 07:54.23 | Laric | gonna test it on my pally |
| 07:58.18 | evl | What's the simples way of knowing what ability/spell that's on a button? |
| 07:59.47 | ckknight | we're gonna hit 10k soon |
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| 08:20.09 | evl | woot!? new squarepusher album |
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| 08:36.57 | Rophy | ckknight_: all FuBar-2.0 plugins must include Tablet-2.0 ? |
| 08:37.22 | Rophy | ckknight or ckknight_ |
| 08:38.37 | CIA-11 | 03pprovost * r9003 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua Locale_enUS.lua): |
| 08:38.38 | CIA-11 | FuBar_PoisonFu: |
| 08:38.38 | CIA-11 | - Extracted a few helper methods |
| 08:38.38 | CIA-11 | - Major rework of the display text |
| 08:38.38 | CIA-11 | - Added options for showing expirations/charges remaining |
| 08:38.38 | CIA-11 | - Changed default options to something more reasonable |
| 08:39.01 | PProvost | Night all |
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| 08:41.15 | ckknight__ | :-P |
| 08:41.20 | Rophy | ckknight_: Tablet-2.0 is a required dependency for FuBarPlugin-2.0? |
| 08:41.23 | ckknight__ | yes |
| 08:41.57 | Rophy | In that case why not just add it into FuBar-2.0 libraries? |
| 08:50.30 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r9004 10BigWigs/Other/Onyxia.lua: BigWigs (Onyxia): should work again with the new emote format |
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| 08:55.48 | ckknight | blah. |
| 08:56.01 | ckknight | what's the last thing I said? |
| 08:56.08 | Rophy | [16:41] ckknight__: yes |
| 08:56.24 | ckknight | you do know that if you opened up FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua, you'd see Dependencies: AceLibrary, AceOO-2.0, AceEvent-2.0, Tablet-2.0, Dewdrop-2.0 |
| 08:56.24 | Rophy | [16:41] Rophy: In that case why not just add it into FuBar-2.0 libraries? |
| 08:56.50 | ckknight | because it's not up to FuBar to know what structure the plugins are made up of |
| 08:57.02 | ckknight | FuBarPlugin-2.0 is merely one possibility |
| 08:57.21 | Rophy | There are other possibilities? |
| 08:57.23 | ckknight | FuBar only uses libraries which it needs |
| 08:57.33 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r9005 10BigWigs/ (8 files in 4 dirs): |
| 08:57.33 | CIA-11 | BigWigs: |
| 08:57.33 | CIA-11 | - Updated english locale for all bosses that use CHAT_MSG_MONSTER_EMOTE for triggering without string.find |
| 08:57.34 | ckknight | only contains* |
| 08:57.49 | ckknight | FuBar doesn't have AbacusLib or CrayonLib, even though they may be useful to plugins |
| 08:57.56 | ckknight | because it's not FuBar's responsibility |
| 08:58.13 | Laric | [Ammo] does that fix onyxia for instance? :P |
| 08:58.14 | Rophy | but aren't FuBar-2.0's plugins supposed to be FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 08:58.21 | Rophy | ? |
| 08:58.23 | [Ammo] | yeah laric |
| 08:58.27 | Laric | thanks :P |
| 08:58.28 | [Ammo] | it should |
| 08:58.38 | [Ammo] | unless it's CHAT_MSG_RAID_BOSS_EMOTE |
| 08:58.45 | [Ammo] | in that case we'll ahve to adjust more |
| 08:58.54 | Laric | my guild was very surprised when they got a deep breath down their neck last night. |
| 08:59.20 | Laric | they went like.. "BigWigs isnt that safe now is it?" and I ofcourse defended it :P |
| 08:59.49 | ckknight | Rophy, not necessarily. |
| 09:00.01 | ckknight | it's merely coincidence that they both end in 2.0 |
| 09:00.20 | ckknight | I could make a FuBarPlugin-2.1 that worked with FuBar 2.0 just as well |
| 09:00.26 | Rophy | hmm |
| 09:00.31 | ckknight | and if I make FuBar 2.0, I'll likely support FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 09:00.33 | ckknight | err |
| 09:00.36 | ckknight | FuBar 2.1 |
| 09:01.02 | ckknight | that's why plugins include their own version of FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 09:01.03 | ckknight | it's not up to FuBar to handle that |
| 09:01.16 | Rophy | hmm.. |
| 09:01.18 | Rophy | ok then |
| 09:01.21 | ckknight | also, FuBarPlugin-2.0 isn't dependant on FuBar at all, either. |
| 09:01.36 | Rophy | another question: if I loads a FuBarPlugin-2.0 addon without FuBar-2.0 |
| 09:01.44 | ckknight | it gets placed on the minimap |
| 09:01.50 | Rophy | and I calls MyPlugin:Update(), will UpdateText() be called? |
| 09:01.56 | Rophy | since the text isn't being show in any way. |
| 09:02.08 | ckknight | yes, since :UpdateText() may also change the icon |
| 09:02.18 | ckknight | I'll also probably later allow text on the minimap button |
| 09:02.19 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:02.44 | Rophy | hmm, so if I dun want to call UpdateText when FuBar-2.0 doesnt exist |
| 09:02.48 | Rophy | what is the proper way to do that? |
| 09:03.04 | ckknight | to stop it from doing that, just wrap your :OnTextUpdate() with a not self:IsMinimapAttached() |
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| 09:03.25 | Rophy | sounds cool |
| 09:03.26 | Rophy | ok thanks :p |
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| 09:04.50 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9006 10oRA2/oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: attempt at a better default DB for the modules |
| 09:12.11 | Nickenyfiken | [Ammo]: how much of the features in oRA is in oRA2 at this point? |
| 09:13.43 | ckknight | you know, I think FuBar's finally at the point where it deserves a 5/5 rating |
| 09:13.58 | snurre | meh, i really dont get the draenei setting |
| 09:15.36 | FISKER_Q | <3 FuBar |
| 09:15.42 | kergoth | god i love how quiet this new box is. this case impresses me |
| 09:15.45 | kergoth | hrm |
| 09:15.53 | ckknight | snurre, hrm? |
| 09:15.56 | FISKER_Q | The whole detach tooltip thingy was probably the most genius thing i've ever seen in an addon |
| 09:17.13 | ckknight | hehe ;-) |
| 09:17.13 | [Ammo] | nickenyficken: find out for yourself, that question I won't answer anymore |
| 09:17.13 | FISKER_Q | funny stuff that the QuestFu tooltip is better than any questlog addon i've ever seen :P |
| 09:17.13 | ckknight | I did that for BattlegroundFu/QuestFu |
| 09:17.13 | ckknight | well, I think I did it specifically for QuestFu |
| 09:17.13 | ckknight | BatFu implemented it first |
| 09:17.13 | ckknight | because I wanted a MonkeyQuest-style thing |
| 09:17.25 | ckknight | and thus, Detach tooltip was born. |
| 09:17.33 | FISKER_Q | i like questfu |
| 09:17.41 | FISKER_Q | I was using UberQuest for the minion thingy |
| 09:17.52 | FISKER_Q | then i saw QuestsFu and scrapped uberquest pretty quick :P |
| 09:17.59 | ckknight | hehe |
| 09:18.00 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:18.02 | ckknight | fuck Saien. |
| 09:18.09 | ckknight | ;-) |
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| 09:18.44 | FISKER_Q | heh |
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| 09:19.28 | FtH|eagle | hi |
| 09:19.36 | grumpey | eya |
| 09:20.24 | ckknight | hey eagle |
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| 09:22.52 | ckknight | hey Mikk |
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| 09:25.14 | FtH|eagle | ckknight: have you changed glorylib already? |
| 09:25.17 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9007 10oRA2/oRA2/Participant/Item.lua: oRA2: tweak to bagscan for items |
| 09:25.17 | ckknight | hey MoonWolf |
| 09:25.20 | ckknight | yes, FtH|eagle |
| 09:25.22 | MoonWolf | hey ckk. |
| 09:25.29 | FtH|eagle | found a fix for the duplicate name problem?` |
| 09:25.48 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:25.55 | FtH|eagle | oh good :) |
| 09:26.16 | ckknight | doesn't work in the fringe case where you fight two separate enemies at the same time with the same name |
| 09:26.20 | ckknight | but that's unlikely |
| 09:26.35 | ckknight | basically, it works properly if in the battleground, everyone has a unique name |
| 09:26.38 | MoonWolf | yeah, very unlikely in pvp. |
| 09:26.45 | ckknight | even if they're from different realms |
| 09:26.53 | ckknight | and it'll know which realm they're from |
| 09:26.54 | MoonWolf | unless there is a pet with the same name its not happening. |
| 09:27.03 | ckknight | doesn't even check that |
| 09:27.07 | ckknight | and pets don't count |
| 09:27.11 | MoonWolf | right. |
| 09:27.16 | MoonWolf | not happening at all then. |
| 09:27.40 | ckknight | so when you kill a guy, it'll say "Kill: Guy-MonkeyRealm 5 kills today" |
| 09:27.43 | ckknight | or what have you |
| 09:27.52 | ckknight | it shows the -Realm bit |
| 09:28.24 | MoonWolf | you know whats funny, i play on a pvp realm, we have been paired with mostly older pvp realms, most of the people from my realm seem to do better then the pvp guy's in bg's/ |
| 09:28.28 | MoonWolf | bg's. |
| 09:28.41 | MoonWolf | pvp-rp realm in my case. |
| 09:29.08 | ckknight | okay |
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| 09:39.29 | Nickenyfiken | [Ammo]: ok :-) |
| 09:39.53 | Nickenyfiken | kergoth: what case do you have? |
| 09:45.43 | Rophy | ckknight: if my FuBar plugin is optionally depends on FuBar, and is load on demand, Fubar isnt loading it at the start and I have to manually enable it. |
| 09:45.57 | ckknight | can't be optional |
| 09:46.03 | ckknight | if it's LoD |
| 09:46.34 | ckknight | if it's LoD, it must depend on FuBar |
| 09:46.36 | Rophy | possible to add support for that? |
| 09:46.38 | kergoth | Nickenyfiken: its antec's new "performance" mid tower, the P180b. two seperate segmented parts of the case for cooling, like 5 fans with speed controls for each, and damn quiet, quieter than my shuttle xpc with just the cpu fan and hd |
| 09:46.39 | ckknight | no. |
| 09:46.49 | kergoth | i loved antec before, but this one is above & beyond |
| 09:46.51 | kergoth | :) |
| 09:47.01 | ckknight | if it's not LoD, then it should optionally depend on FuBar |
| 09:48.14 | Rophy | because FuBar cannot know its existance if it's LoD and optionally dep.? |
| 09:48.42 | Nickenyfiken | kergoth: oh nice i got a Antec Sonata II now and its ok, but the worst thing is my stupid X850XT gfx card that sound like a hairdryer |
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| 09:50.39 | FISKER_Q | peer doesn't like you today? |
| 09:50.47 | ckknight_ | that bastard |
| 09:52.35 | evl | ooooh |
| 09:52.38 | evl | someone downed 3 horsemen |
| 09:53.15 | [Ammo] | no they downed 4 |
| 09:53.16 | Mikk | damnit. I can't reproduce AL's CTL borkage. |
| 09:55.12 | evl | 4 even :;P |
| 09:55.55 | haste | now I understand why it drops a lot of frost resistance tho' :p |
| 09:56.09 | [Ammo] | ? |
| 09:56.17 | [Ammo] | Sapphiron's aoe frost thing? |
| 09:56.25 | haste | yeh |
| 09:56.26 | [Ammo] | I need someone with transcriptor inside DnT :) |
| 09:56.33 | [Ammo] | *inno* |
| 09:56.52 | [Ammo] | oh and haste, oCB commit, Optional/CoolDown |
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| 09:57.46 | evl | hope he does WC3 lich chain frost and kablams the raid |
| 09:57.48 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9008 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/Resurrection.lua: oRA2: hide the resurrection monitor per default |
| 09:57.54 | evl | I saw some screenies where he breathed for 82000 |
| 09:58.02 | [Ammo] | those were from PTR |
| 09:58.06 | [Ammo] | ptr is broken as usualy |
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| 09:58.20 | evl | it's a doppleganger :( |
| 09:59.54 | ckknight__ | CTL borkage? |
| 10:00.32 | kergoth | waht the |
| 10:00.39 | kergoth | theres a new firmware upgrade available for my MOUSE |
| 10:00.46 | kergoth | apparently makes it track on more surfaces |
| 10:00.49 | kergoth | thats just fucking weird |
| 10:00.51 | Laric | lol |
| 10:00.52 | kergoth | its a mouse for gods sake |
| 10:00.57 | Laric | what kinda mouse do you use? |
| 10:01.06 | kergoth | logitech g5 laser mouse |
| 10:01.11 | ckknight__ | you know what's fun to say? "I'm popular on the internet" |
| 10:01.12 | yacoob | kergoth: you're wrong. It's THE mouse. |
| 10:01.33 | kergoth | its a nice mouse, certainly, but still. craziness :) |
| 10:02.00 | yacoob | kergoth: I heard new firmware adds RAID capabilities 8) |
| 10:02.04 | Laric | perhaps there is an upgrade for my g7 then aswell |
| 10:02.38 | kergoth | Laric: not seeing one, maybe it already had that improvement. *shrug* |
| 10:02.46 | kergoth | just happened to be reading reviews on mousepads, which is weird enough |
| 10:02.57 | kergoth | when i read that some mice had upgrades to fix "incompatibilities" with some mousepads |
| 10:03.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 10:03.02 | [Ammo] | hrmf, I scared haste away :) |
| 10:03.15 | haste | no you didn't :p |
| 10:03.35 | haste | I'm looking for my wallet, need it before I leave :< |
| 10:03.51 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 10:03.59 | sbu | 'morning |
| 10:04.11 | haste | I'll be back in around a hour |
| 10:04.13 | Laric | does bigwig use the new api to 'sync' with other bigwig users? |
| 10:04.19 | Mikk | ckknight__: "popular on the internet" == "hawt webcam sex site"? |
| 10:04.39 | [Ammo] | Laric: take 1 guess |
| 10:04.56 | Laric | my guess is yes |
| 10:05.03 | [Ammo] | Laric: you win the interweb! |
| 10:05.14 | haste | no! |
| 10:05.17 | haste | he wins four internets |
| 10:05.31 | Laric | can I win an internet 2 connection? :P |
| 10:05.52 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9009 10FuBar_SpeedFu/ (5 files): FuBar_SpeedFu - initial import (FuBar-1.2 version). |
| 10:05.53 | CIA-11 | 03mikk * r9010 10ChatThrottleLib/ (ChatThrottleLib.lua ChatThrottleLib.toc README.txt): |
| 10:05.53 | CIA-11 | ChatThrottleLib: |
| 10:05.53 | CIA-11 | * Version 11 |
| 10:05.53 | CIA-11 | * Clamp VERY hard the 5 first seconds after login and zoning. The rate limiter seems touchy at least right after login. |
| 10:06.52 | Mikk | (AL broke it by having partyquests spew your entire quest log (including texts) to party members immediately after login when logging into a party) |
| 10:07.11 | Mikma | yay for AL |
| 10:07.14 | Mikma | teh mastermind |
| 10:07.19 | Laric | al? |
| 10:07.33 | Mikk | AnduinLothar a k a KarlKFI |
| 10:07.38 | [Ammo] | remind me not to use AL mods |
| 10:07.39 | Laric | aka cosmos |
| 10:07.55 | Mikma | [Ammo]: don't use AL mods. |
| 10:07.59 | [Ammo] | thanks |
| 10:08.16 | Mikma | ~remind |
| 10:08.22 | purl | . URL: ftp://ftp.doe.carleton.ca/pub/remind-3.0/ |
| 10:08.30 | Thrae | *yawn* Lots of people awake at 6am. Or are you all PST and just up late? |
| 10:08.35 | [Ammo] | CET |
| 10:08.46 | [Ammo] | it's noon here |
| 10:08.53 | Mikk | same |
| 10:09.02 | Laric | cet is nice :P |
| 10:09.12 | Mikk | and ckknight is WAT |
| 10:09.22 | Mikk | (Weird-Ass Time) |
| 10:09.22 | Laric | WAT? |
| 10:09.25 | Laric | lol |
| 10:09.25 | [Ammo] | Wide Awake All Time? |
| 10:09.35 | Mikk | works too :-P |
| 10:09.46 | Laric | except when he is burning down his kitchen |
| 10:10.06 | kergoth | Thrae: phoenix here, which is pacific around this time of year (no daylight savings in arizonao) |
| 10:11.56 | ckknight__ | I'm on HST |
| 10:12.07 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 10:12.18 | ckknight | i.e. 12 hours away from Europe |
| 10:12.26 | Laric | does purl know when someone said something last? |
| 10:12.41 | Laric | where is hst? |
| 10:12.42 | [Ammo] | ~seen Laric |
| 10:12.48 | purl | laric is currently on #wowace (15m 16s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 7s, last said: 'where is hst?'. |
| 10:12.56 | ckknight | Hawaii, Laric |
| 10:13.23 | Laric | ~seen Kemayo |
| 10:13.25 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 25 messages. Is idling for 2d 4h 54m 35s, last said: 'I <3 woot.com'. |
| 10:13.41 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 10:13.41 | purl | kergoth: thanks |
| 10:15.24 | Laric | no wonder I cant get in touch with kemayo he sure is idle |
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| 10:16.46 | Laric | I have fixed his FuBar_QuestFu but dunno if I should update the trunk or keep it in branches |
| 10:17.13 | [Ammo] | what did you fix? |
| 10:17.19 | kergoth | if trunk is broken, i'd say commit the fix and let him revert if he didnt like th fix |
| 10:17.27 | kergoth | features are a whole nother story :) |
| 10:18.10 | Laric | trunk is sorta broken as he says it is fubar 2.0 but still uses some ace 1.x and doesnt have ace 1.x as dependancy |
| 10:18.23 | kergoth | ah |
| 10:18.30 | FtH|eagle | ckknight: honorfu works perfect as before, thanks :) |
| 10:18.59 | kergoth | i'd say just toss the remainder of hte ace2 conversion into the trunk. its scm, he can always revert it if he didnt like your approach |
| 10:19.00 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9011 10/tags/FuBar_SpeedFu/: FuBar_SpeedFu - Creating tags path. |
| 10:19.18 | Laric | ok will do |
| 10:19.54 | CIA-11 | 03rophy 071.2.0 * r9012 10FuBar_SpeedFu/: FuBar_SpeedFu - Tagging final FuBar 1.2 version. |
| 10:25.49 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9013 10FuBar_SpeedFu/ (6 files): FuBar_SpeedFu - Upgrades to FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 10:28.23 | CIA-11 | 03laric * r9014 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (QuestsFu.lua QuestsFuLocals.lua): |
| 10:28.23 | CIA-11 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 10:28.23 | CIA-11 | - Removed old ACE 1.x code |
| 10:28.23 | CIA-11 | - Localized the remaining parts |
| 10:32.46 | Laric | ~seen wobin |
| 10:32.52 | purl | wobin is currently on #gnu-kbsd (1d 11h 53m 15s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1d 11h 52m 50s, last said: 'prbably not important :)'. |
| 10:33.40 | Laric | hmm guess I am gonna branch FuXPFu :P (soon able to remove ace 1.x |
| 10:34.29 | Laric | down to 3 ace 1.x addons now |
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| 10:36.34 | kergoth | Laric: nice |
| 10:37.23 | ckknight_ | that is nice |
| 10:37.47 | Thrae | ckknight_: If I want multiple OnUpdate timers at various rates and I'm using AceEvent for something else, should I just use AceEvent's "repeating schedules" or Metrognome? |
| 10:37.56 | ckknight_ | I recommend using AceEvent |
| 10:38.14 | ckknight_ | you can have infinite schedules with AceEvent |
| 10:38.19 | [Ammo] | use metro only if you need to run osmething X amounts or need the difference ;) |
| 10:38.49 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9015 10FuBar_SpeedFu/ (. FuBar_SpeedFu.toc): |
| 10:38.49 | CIA-11 | FuBar_SpeedFu |
| 10:38.49 | CIA-11 | - externals and keywords. |
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| 10:38.54 | Thrae | AceEvent can run something X amount of times too, [Ammo] |
| 10:39.17 | Thrae | That's the way it started before ckknight added infinite schedules. |
| 10:39.19 | ckknight_ | not to my knowledge, you'd have to stop it yourself that way. |
| 10:39.36 | Thrae | Oh, you changed it to just infinitely repeating? OK, my mistake. |
| 10:39.39 | ckknight_ | you can do it 1 time or infinite times |
| 10:40.20 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 10:40.51 | [Ammo] | need FuBar_DurabilityFu deuce'd :p |
| 10:40.58 | ckknight_ | granted, you can keep your own counter |
| 10:41.01 | ckknight_ | [Ammo], feel free. |
| 10:41.32 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9016 10FuBar_SpeedFu/FuBar_SpeedFu.toc: FuBar_SpeedFu - test |
| 10:42.19 | [Ammo] | ckknight_ hehe k |
| 10:43.02 | ckknight_ | omg, Who Wants To Be A Superhero seems so awesome. |
| 10:44.51 | tumetom | ora1 seems to have problems with it_'s MTTs :( |
| 10:45.13 | Laric | Thrae why dont you use metrognome? |
| 10:45.38 | [Ammo] | Laric: because you don't need to if you don't need run this schedule X times or the difference |
| 10:45.49 | Thrae | Laric: Pointless to include a lib that's not really needed. |
| 10:45.59 | ckknight_ | in what situation would you run a schedule finite times? |
| 10:46.07 | Laric | so to replace onupdate i should use schedule event instead of metrognome? |
| 10:46.16 | ckknight_ | [2, inf), I mean |
| 10:46.22 | [Ammo] | no idea ckknight :) |
| 10:46.30 | [Ammo] | but you could! |
| 10:46.31 | ckknight_ | yea, that's why I didn't implement it. |
| 10:46.33 | ckknight_ | cause it's basically pointless. |
| 10:48.27 | [Ammo] | fubar durability fu could use some interesting optimizations :) |
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| 10:48.38 | [Ammo] | I think it calls the calculateinventorycost 3x |
| 10:49.06 | [Ammo] | which means it loops over its bags 3x |
| 10:49.25 | Laric | and i wonder where it gets its sum from.. because ti sure isnt even close to accurate |
| 10:52.22 | ckknight__ | feel free to fix it. |
| 10:53.42 | yacoob | ckknight__: hmm. Does 'target enemy flagcarrier' in HonorFu could be bindable? |
| 10:53.46 | Laric | I wish clad would make the SVN closed to unauthenticated users |
| 10:53.52 | yacoob | (and have friendy flagcarrier too? :) |
| 10:54.50 | ckknight__ | yacoob, you used two verbs. confusing. |
| 10:54.51 | ckknight__ | rephrase. |
| 10:55.52 | yacoob | ckknight__: there's option in honorfu, 'target enemy flagcarrier'. But in order to use that, you need two clicks. Could you make it bindable to a key? |
| 10:56.20 | yacoob | And, as a icing on a cake, add same for 'target friendly flagcarrier' |
| 10:56.30 | ckknight__ | you mean, clicking on the plugin? |
| 10:56.33 | ckknight__ | something like that? |
| 10:56.41 | ckknight__ | something that I already coded |
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| 10:57.26 | ckknight__ | and, I don't see the point of targetting the friendly flag carrier :-P |
| 10:57.48 | Laric | buff him.. shield him etc |
| 10:57.53 | sbu | healing is overrated ;o |
| 10:57.56 | Thrae | ckknight_: buff, heal |
| 10:58.37 | Thrae | I never used HonorFu, wonder if it's a good companion to BattlegroundFu or do they overlap... |
| 10:58.57 | ckknight__ | they only slightly overlap |
| 10:59.02 | ckknight__ | HonorFu mostly deals with Honor + PvP issues |
| 10:59.09 | ckknight__ | BatFu is for Battleground-specific stuff |
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| 10:59.21 | ckknight__ | HonorFu does handle the flag carrier thing, that's all |
| 11:01.59 | ckknight__ | lol, this is a pretty funny show |
| 11:02.04 | ckknight__ | for anyone who hasn't seen it |
| 11:04.07 | Thrae | Tuplad: Yeah I know parts of TinyTip broke with 1.12 |
| 11:04.25 | Thrae | They must have stealth-changed how GameTooltip OnTooltipCleared worked or something. |
| 11:05.12 | evl | Thrae: or did youmeans changed-stealth? As It's more borked now than ever before, weee :D |
| 11:05.20 | Tuplad | Thrae: no not that :D |
| 11:05.26 | Thrae | Oh, then what? |
| 11:05.30 | Tuplad | Thrae: Would it be possible to add the server where the user is from to the tooltip ? |
| 11:05.35 | ckknight__ | this seems pretty scripted. |
| 11:05.39 | Tuplad | For your own faction, atleast |
| 11:05.41 | Thrae | Yes, I plan on doing that. |
| 11:05.45 | Tuplad | Great! |
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| 11:13.32 | Thrae | UnitName only returns a second value other then nil if the unit is on a different server then your own, right? |
| 11:14.19 | ckknight_ | um, think so |
| 11:15.00 | ckknight_ | I'm gonna say a big probably to that |
| 11:15.08 | ckknight_ | granted, I'd check it against GetRealmName() anyway. |
| 11:19.54 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 11:22.54 | ckknight_ | omg, they're such nerds... |
| 11:23.11 | ckknight_ | "Spiderman helped me become an adult" |
| 11:24.05 | [Ammo] | ugh |
| 11:24.59 | ckknight_ | does anyone else see the irony? |
| 11:26.00 | Kebinusan | I submitted a ticket about latency on my realm in piglatin to try and avoid getting an automated response... but I still got one |
| 11:26.17 | ckknight | lol |
| 11:27.26 | Thrae | Kebinusan: It's not an automated response, the GM actually cuts & pastes the response from a KB. |
| 11:28.01 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9017 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: AceComm - updated ChatThrottleLib to v11 |
| 11:28.21 | Kebinusan | the cut andpaste said it was automated and I couldnt respond... now if they had taken the time to translate the response to pig latin... I could have at least given them some style points |
| 11:29.21 | Tuplad | Thrae: kb ? |
| 11:29.33 | Thrae | Knowledge Base |
| 11:29.38 | Tuplad | :D |
| 11:29.45 | Kebinusan | Your realms having bad latency issues since the patch? |
| 11:29.52 | Tuplad | I ended up talking to a GM about football this night |
| 11:30.26 | Kebinusan | Yeah I did tech support for nearly four years |
| 11:30.37 | Kebinusan | its why I have such a low opinion of my fellow citizens |
| 11:31.07 | Tuplad | Hmm |
| 11:31.55 | Tuplad | Some addon is causing me to go 30-60kb/s in combat :\ |
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| 11:32.50 | Tuplad | http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs105&d=06345&f=keke.png - any ideas? |
| 11:33.19 | yacoob | yay, battlegroundFu now shows flagcarriers :) |
| 11:33.48 | ckknight | your mom shows flag carriers. |
| 11:33.49 | Thrae | Indeed, it always has |
| 11:33.57 | Tuplad | :D |
| 11:34.16 | yacoob | Thrae: well... it tried but it was borked. |
| 11:34.29 | yacoob | ckknight: very cunning, young man. |
| 11:34.32 | Tuplad | It all depends on the user, yacoob :] |
| 11:34.35 | tumetom | haste? |
| 11:34.45 | yacoob | Tuplad: yup, on the used revision :) |
| 11:34.47 | FtH|eagle | yacoob: is battlegroundfu working in the latest patch? |
| 11:35.08 | yacoob | FtH|eagle: looks fine to me, both AB and WSG. Hadn't chance to test AV. |
| 11:35.34 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9018 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip -- Now displays Server Name if it's different then your own Server's name. You can use "KeyServer" to display (*) instead of the entire server name. |
| 11:35.36 | FtH|eagle | wondering because it's using the old glorylib, or is there an updated version somewhere with glorylib2 support? |
| 11:35.36 | Tuplad | it works fine in AV |
| 11:35.48 | CIA-11 | wowbench: 03mikeclueby4 * r113 10/trunk/ (BlizzardInterface/FrameXML/FrameXML-lite.toc api.lua): |
| 11:35.48 | CIA-11 | wowbench: * Implement UnitIsPartyLeader() [FULL] |
| 11:35.48 | CIA-11 | wowbench: * Clicking/mousing over players will now work with FrameXML-lite ("-q") |
| 11:35.48 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9019 10TinyTipOptions/ (3 files): TinyTipOptions -- Updated for change in TinyTip. |
| 11:35.52 | Tuplad | Thrae ftw! |
| 11:36.04 | Thrae | Tuplad: It's untested, tell me how it works |
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| 11:36.37 | yacoob | FtH|eagle: the latter |
| 11:36.55 | yacoob | FtH|eagle: today's honorfu release |
| 11:37.11 | FtH|eagle | yeah I know of honorfu |
| 11:37.35 | Tuplad | Thrae: Gimme a min :) |
| 11:38.33 | FtH|eagle | Thrae: works |
| 11:38.43 | Thrae | FtH|eagle: You're in a BG? |
| 11:41.20 | CIA-11 | wowbench: 03mikeclueby4 * r114 10/trunk/api.lua: * Fixed: GetMouseFocus() will return UIParent rather than WorldFrame when mousing over "nothing" |
| 11:41.55 | ckknight_ | what's Excelsior mean? |
| 11:42.14 | FtH|eagle | Thrae: yes |
| 11:42.17 | FtH|eagle | al the time :) |
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| 11:43.26 | tumetom | who is developing on Ouf? |
| 11:43.35 | Thrae | FtH|eagle: Ah, nice. I actually coded something which works off the bat for once! |
| 11:43.44 | FtH|eagle | hehe |
| 11:45.33 | tumetom | am I allowed to remove a bug from an addon and commit the changes? think I should ask the author first |
| 11:46.39 | Mikk | "depends"... is it a large change? is the author here often enough? do you know for a fact that you're not fscking up something with your fix? =) |
| 11:46.54 | Thrae | tumetom: Just add your version to /branches/AddonName/YourName/ |
| 11:47.11 | tumetom | Thrae it's just one line added |
| 11:47.30 | Thrae | I added 3 lines to Squishy and still branched my version ;) |
| 11:47.51 | tumetom | phuuu... a brunch for a brunch.. :( |
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| 11:48.41 | tumetom | ahh :) just updated... it's already fixed |
| 11:48.42 | Tuplad | this:RegisterEvent doesnt work anymore ? :O |
| 11:48.56 | Tuplad | I keep getting an error >_< |
| 11:48.58 | FtH|eagle | someone should port battlegroundfu to fubar2 :P |
| 11:52.55 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9020 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip -- Possible fix for Nurfed Unit Frames |
| 11:53.18 | Tuplad | [Ammo]: I think you should change: totem = "$c: $e Totem" -> totem = "$c: $e", else you see "Searing Totem Totem" |
| 11:53.24 | Tuplad | in WitchHunt that is |
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| 11:55.25 | tumetom | I recently read about a fubar plugin that picks up all minimap buttons and lists them in a menu... |
| 11:55.47 | tumetom | but I unfortunately forgot the name.... HELP! |
| 11:56.06 | Fritti | ModMenuTuFu |
| 11:56.10 | Fritti | need to check that out myself |
| 11:57.22 | Mikk | aeurhmmm i could have sworn there was a "say" and "whisper" command in wowbench that made it look like people were talking to you... does anyone else remember seeing that or did i delete it like ... WAY long ago? |
| 11:57.40 | evl | Mikk: isn't it just say <Source> Text? |
| 11:57.46 | Mikk | that's what i thought |
| 11:57.49 | evl | and <Source> is a player in the world? |
| 11:58.05 | tumetom | no.. modmenu is a different thing |
| 11:59.38 | evl | I do my minimap button mashing in a small script |
| 11:59.49 | evl | Anyone found the framename of the new outdoor pvp frame? |
| 12:00.03 | Tuplad | Thrae: Where do I toggle server view ? |
| 12:00.09 | Tuplad | Thrae: I cant see their servers in my tooltip atm |
| 12:00.39 | CIA-11 | 03aileen * r9021 10FuBar_VolumeFu/ (FuBar_VolumeFu.toc VolumeFu.lua libs/): VolumeFu - removed AceEvent |
| 12:01.07 | Mikk | What in the %&#¤%#&¤&#%& is going on |
| 12:01.13 | Mikk | I can't find the "say" command anywherer |
| 12:01.16 | Mikk | And it isn't working either |
| 12:01.26 | Thrae | Tuplad: The server name will only show if their server is different then yours. |
| 12:01.38 | Thrae | Tuplad: FtH|eagle says it worked for him... |
| 12:01.46 | FtH|eagle | it does |
| 12:01.52 | FtH|eagle | currently mouse overing some enemies :) |
| 12:02.33 | Thiana | How do you tell if the GameTooltip is over an item, player or other? |
| 12:03.16 | Thrae | Thiana: Hook SetUnit, SetItem, etc. |
| 12:03.27 | Thiana | Thanks :) |
| 12:04.35 | evl | ckknight__: i tried modding AutoAttack but fell back to issuing AttackTarget() when certain spells were used (Sinister, Backstab etc), works pretty good! |
| 12:04.37 | Thrae | Tuplad: There's no way to disable the server name from appearing, only change it to just (*) |
| 12:05.17 | ckknight__ | k |
| 12:07.11 | Tuplad | Thrae: It is different |
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| 12:09.58 | tumetom | grml... hate all those minimap raping addons :( |
| 12:10.09 | ckknight__ | lol |
| 12:10.18 | ckknight__ | Tekkub calls em herpes. |
| 12:10.21 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9022 10TinyTip/TinyTip.toc: TinyTip -- Updated TOC. |
| 12:10.28 | Tuplad | Oi nvm, I didnt /rl |
| 12:10.37 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9023 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtras.toc: TinyTipExtras -- Updated TOC version. |
| 12:10.49 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9024 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.toc: TinyTipOptions -- Updated TOC version. |
| 12:11.09 | XLVII | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1956.0.html |
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| 12:12.53 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 12:13.31 | XLVII | g'day |
| 12:21.39 | evl | is WorldStateFrame the new outdoor PVP status frame? |
| 12:21.55 | evl | It's molesting my party frame and party member #5 is very unhappy about it. |
| 12:26.58 | ckknight__ | moolesting. |
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| 12:29.16 | evl | ckknight__: Yeah, you're riding high on your double undescores! I'm just a squirrel searching for a world pvp frame |
| 12:30.16 | ckknight__ | ~chippersnack evl |
| 12:30.33 | purl | ACTION feeds evl some nuts. |
| 12:30.33 | yacoob | evl: why don't you shoo it away with visor or dfm? :> |
| 12:31.41 | evl | yacoob: cause I'm a prophet sent from hell to obliterate any mods that can be replaced by 2 lines of lua! :P |
| 12:31.42 | CIA-11 | 03thrae 07Thrae * r9025 10Squishy/ (20 files in 4 dirs): Squishy (Thrae) -- Tiny change, this makes the main "Squishy Emergency" resize itself based on the number of unit bars shown in it. Very useful if at 0% Alpha. |
| 12:32.26 | haste | Someone buy me a new chair! |
| 12:32.30 | haste | my current one broke :( |
| 12:32.34 | haste | and this one sucks |
| 12:32.45 | yacoob | evl: I say play your enemy against himself, use it to get rid of it :) |
| 12:33.10 | evl | haste: ikea have sliced prices 25% |
| 12:33.21 | haste | evl: Ikea is far away :( |
| 12:33.36 | evl | haste: Where exactly do you live? |
| 12:33.49 | haste | In the middle of Østfold! |
| 12:33.57 | evl | Holy shit, move to the WORLD man :( |
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| 12:34.19 | haste | noes! |
| 12:34.27 | haste | Cheap 'harry' trips to Sweden ftw |
| 12:34.32 | evl | True dat :) |
| 12:34.48 | evl | or just grab a flight to Litauen for like 500kr and get double cheap! |
| 12:34.57 | haste | haha |
| 12:35.21 | evl | Last time I was there 50cl 50% vodka was 3.5€ |
| 12:35.28 | haste | eep |
| 12:35.56 | evl | and they had topless poledancers in the club! ftw! |
| 12:36.15 | evl | now to find that frame! |
| 12:36.25 | haste | frame ? :D |
| 12:36.36 | evl | the new world pvp status thingy, it's molesting my beautiful oUF's |
| 12:36.41 | haste | aaw |
| 12:36.48 | oxman | screen ? |
| 12:36.48 | evl | some serious dry humping on party member 4 |
| 12:36.53 | CIA-11 | 03thrae 07Thrae * r9026 10Squishy/Squishy/libs/: Created folder remotely |
| 12:37.22 | evl | http://static.curse-gaming.com/nimage/319/burning_crusade_skills_warrior.jpg |
| 12:38.28 | CIA-11 | 03thrae 07Thrae * r9027 10Squishy/Squishy/libs/: Squishy/libs (Thrae) -- Added externals. |
| 12:39.09 | evl | haha, warriors get remorseless at level 62 :D |
| 12:39.18 | CIA-11 | 03moonsorrow * r9028 10XRS/XRS_BarClass.lua: |
| 12:39.18 | CIA-11 | XRS: |
| 12:39.18 | CIA-11 | - fixed XRS_BarClass.lua:484:attempt to index field 'blankcolor' (a nil value) |
| 12:42.18 | Gngsk | hmm, devastate = no more sunder spam! |
| 12:48.19 | Mikk | well.. 5 sunders and then devastate spam |
| 12:48.37 | Mikk | "Intervene".. interesting |
| 12:48.47 | Mikk | old-style MUD "rescue <target>" :-) |
| 12:50.46 | Thrae | Mikk: Where are you getting this info? |
| 12:53.00 | evl | Thrae: http://static.curse-gaming.com/nimage/319/burning_crusade_skills_warrior.jpg |
| 12:54.23 | wereHamster | Spell reflection: no cooldown, only 25 rage.. imba |
| 12:55.00 | yacoob | wereHamster: i bet it will get a hefty cooldown :) |
| 12:55.31 | wereHamster | 10sec? |
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| 12:55.57 | yacoob | how about making it share cd with retaliation? :> |
| 12:56.28 | Kebinusan | interesting skills |
| 12:56.43 | Kebinusan | of course dont hold your breath, its still alpha testing is it not? |
| 12:57.27 | yacoob | Hm, too bad hostelbar doesn't displays debuf applied by you... I'd switch from NECB in no time. |
| 12:57.42 | Tuplad | yacoob: CCWatch ? |
| 12:57.51 | Tuplad | yacoob: AceTimer + HostelBar |
| 12:58.51 | yacoob | hm, acetimer you say... |
| 12:59.05 | yacoob | Don't like CCWatch, somehow. But, I tried it a long time ago. |
| 13:00.30 | yacoob | Ah yes. The lag. Quite an amount of it. |
| 13:00.51 | wereHamster | when is SPELLCAST_FAIL fired? |
| 13:01.02 | Thrae | Hmmm |
| 13:02.05 | Thrae | Blizzard should add something like "Bodyguard" for Protection Warriors too. Bodyguard is from DAoC, it's a special MASTER-level talent which allows you to protect a cloth caster from all melee or physical ranged attacks as long as you are close enough. |
| 13:02.23 | yacoob | "Getting under the blade"? :) |
| 13:02.59 | Thrae | Right now Priests in particular are too squishy |
| 13:03.02 | Mikk | wereHamster: At least when out of mana |
| 13:03.15 | Mikk | Though I suppose it'll fire when someone runs out of range while casting and stuff too |
| 13:03.24 | haste | wereHamster: after SPELLCAST_STOP I believe |
| 13:03.28 | oxman | bodyguard is very very uber |
| 13:03.38 | oxman | healer + tank |
| 13:03.39 | yacoob | Thrae: there was a suggestion before the priest review |
| 13:03.41 | oxman | it's incinvible |
| 13:03.48 | haste | or are you thinking of like... how you get it :p |
| 13:04.06 | yacoob | Thrae: to make a talent that goes like this: IF priest is killed, all nearby allied warriors gain some kind of berserk fury :) |
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| 13:04.57 | Thrae | OK, how about this... |
| 13:05.07 | yacoob | Now, if THAT would become live, I'd bet this fury would be used to waste other's side priest... :D |
| 13:05.09 | Mikk | Ehm.. yeah.. now combine that with Heal Well and the new Spirit of Redemption and you'll have priests committing suicide en masse in battlegrounds :-P |
| 13:05.48 | yacoob | "Er, priest? Die please, we need a buffage." |
| 13:06.07 | Mikk | Yar. Pallies can handle the healing. Priests just need to l2die :-P |
| 13:06.08 | yacoob | or, for pvp servers: |
| 13:06.19 | yacoob | "OMG NOOB preist! die!!" |
| 13:06.23 | Mikk | hehe |
| 13:06.57 | Luak | hi, anybody here, who can help me with my perl update script? when 1.12 came online my probs started -.- |
| 13:07.06 | wereHamster | Will SPELLCAST_FAIL also fire when I get the message 'Your target is already dead' ? |
| 13:07.18 | wereHamster | .. after castign a spell on a mob |
| 13:07.21 | oxman | try :p |
| 13:07.24 | yacoob | Luak: perl script? |
| 13:07.37 | yacoob | or "perl units" update script? :) |
| 13:07.43 | Luak | in the forum there is a topic on this |
| 13:07.44 | Mikk | wereHamster: and please document your findings =) |
| 13:08.00 | Luak | a perl file to update some mods with one click |
| 13:08.12 | Mikk | wereHamster: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/S |
| 13:08.50 | Thrae | "Quick Guard" (Protection Spec, Warrior, Tier 7, Requires Defensive Stance): Has a 25%/50%/75% chance of intercepting any regular ("white") melee or ranged damage for party members in range (15 yards). Consumes 1 Rage per second. Lasts 2 minutes. |
| 13:09.04 | Mikk | Luak: You may want to take a look at http://www.wowguru.com/wgp/ |
| 13:09.43 | yacoob | Thrae: how about crits? |
| 13:10.03 | Thrae | Crits are still white damage |
| 13:10.03 | Luak | no the perl script is only for the ace addons to get the new version from the svn server |
| 13:10.07 | Mikk | Thrae: range 5 yards maybe, and higher rage loss per second |
| 13:10.22 | yacoob | Thrae: ah, so non-spells? |
| 13:10.31 | Luak | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1774.0.html |
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| 13:10.37 | Mikk | and crits should still hit the target imo |
| 13:10.43 | Thrae | yacoob: Yes, Non-Spells / Skills (Execute, Eviserate, etc.) |
| 13:10.43 | Mikk | i mean... they're critical =) |
| 13:10.48 | yacoob | Mikk: trample through |
| 13:10.54 | Luak | @yacoob: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1774.0.html thats the topic on the script |
| 13:10.56 | yacoob | and I'd call it "Shield dance" :) |
| 13:12.22 | Luak | and now i always get the error: svn 'extern\svn.wowace.com\root\trunk\.....Lib' ist keine Arbeitskopie ("ist keine Arbeitskopie" should be is no working copy in english ;) |
| 13:13.00 | Luak | an i get this error for every Lib Oo |
| 13:13.12 | Mikk | ooo you wouldn't happen to have a german wow client too? |
| 13:13.24 | Luak | no its an en client |
| 13:13.29 | Mikk | Beladona wants copies of non-english FrameXMLs for wdn |
| 13:13.31 | Kebinusan | I wonder what the respawn time between black lotus is in a zone |
| 13:13.32 | Mikk | a bah =) |
| 13:13.39 | Mikk | Kebinusan: Looooooooooong |
| 13:13.44 | Thrae | I like the new Forum Topic counter, good protection against spam. I can't think of any reason why you would need to make more then 1 new forum TOPIC every 5 minutes or so. |
| 13:13.45 | [Ammo] | very long |
| 13:13.53 | [Ammo] | it wuold be faster to farm the gold and buy it |
| 13:13.54 | Gngsk | Kebinusan, 45m-1h |
| 13:14.01 | Mikk | Actually, I think they share respawn points across zones. So if you pick it in zone A, you need to go to B next time |
| 13:14.07 | Mikk | But that's unverified |
| 13:14.09 | Gngsk | Mikk, false |
| 13:14.11 | Mikk | ok |
| 13:14.49 | Mikk | And [Ammo] is totally right about farming gold > farming lotus |
| 13:14.58 | Thrae | Selling Purple Lotus is a good way to farm gold ;) |
| 13:15.05 | [Ammo] | ssssh! |
| 13:15.05 | Mikk | Hehe yeah =) |
| 13:15.06 | Gngsk | purple or black? |
| 13:15.15 | [Ammo] | purple spawns area easy and plenty |
| 13:15.20 | Thrae | Both, Herbalism in general is a good way to farm |
| 13:15.20 | [Ammo] | but still it sells for shitloads |
| 13:15.23 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:15.27 | Gngsk | orly? |
| 13:15.31 | [Ammo] | I switched to herbalism a week ago |
| 13:15.33 | [Ammo] | everything sells |
| 13:15.36 | Gngsk | I farm herbs all the time, but I don't really sell 'em. |
| 13:15.38 | Mikk | black lotus farming is just so... unreliable |
| 13:15.40 | [Ammo] | and at high end raiding herbs >>> everything |
| 13:15.44 | Kebinusan | yeah I dropped engineering again recent |
| 13:15.50 | [Ammo] | I dropped mining |
| 13:15.54 | [Ammo] | kept engi |
| 13:15.57 | Kebinusan | I got tired of paying 30g a stack for ghost mushroom |
| 13:15.57 | Gngsk | farming black lotus is quite reliable actually |
| 13:16.08 | sbu | hmm any1 read about that leaked warrior talents? :o |
| 13:16.08 | Thrae | I still love Engineering, I'm thinking of dropping Mining, viens are too unplentiful |
| 13:16.13 | Gngsk | off peak hours park 3 toons in lotus zones |
| 13:16.22 | Gngsk | I typically do winterspring, burning steppes and EP |
| 13:16.26 | [Ammo] | and crystals aren't too expensive |
| 13:16.27 | Thrae | Yet I always encounter Herbs |
| 13:16.34 | Gngsk | can be picking a lotus every 15-20m |
| 13:16.59 | sbu | Gngsk: uhm - black lotus every 20m?? |
| 13:17.11 | [Ammo] | 1 per zone per hour |
| 13:17.21 | [Ammo] | 3 toons 1 hour = 1 / 20 min |
| 13:17.33 | Gngsk | aye |
| 13:17.51 | eternally777 | Which of these two functions would be better, or more efficient, to use? http://ace.pastey.net/398 |
| 13:18.02 | Gngsk | not the kind of thing I do very often, it gets to be kinda hectic |
| 13:18.09 | Gngsk | but it's fun for a few hours every couple of weeks |
| 13:19.00 | eternally777 | Or is it six one way and a half dozen the other? |
| 13:19.47 | [Ammo] | I'd go ith the second |
| 13:19.50 | Rophy | What does this do? http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/libs/ |
| 13:20.02 | [Ammo] | I think someone messed that up rophy |
| 13:20.46 | Rophy | I want create a simple 'library addon' which loads all the svn libraries, then I can ignore all the externals for other svn addons. |
| 13:20.58 | Rophy | I thought this might be the one I was going to do |
| 13:21.48 | Mikk | won't those addons complain about missing files? |
| 13:21.49 | eternally777 | That would probably save the server a bunch of bandwidth |
| 13:22.18 | Kebinusan | Ymay uildgay ashay eenbay avinghay erioussay atencylay issuesway |
| 13:22.18 | Kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.19 | Kebinusan | ourway abilityway otay illkay ontentcay andway ashay ausedcay |
| 13:22.19 | Kebinusan | away umbernay ofway aidray ipesway. Isthay issueway ashay |
| 13:22.19 | Kebinusan | ottengay orseway incesay ethay astlay atchpay andway ontinuescay |
| 13:22.19 | Kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.25 | Kebinusan | ok wrong paste damnit |
| 13:22.28 | Kebinusan | sorry about that |
| 13:22.29 | Gngsk | lol |
| 13:22.35 | Gngsk | filthy pig |
| 13:22.45 | Rophy | If I rename this addon with something like !!!LoadMeFirst, then in Windows it'll get loaded before other addons, without requring other addons to set it as optional dependency i think? |
| 13:23.03 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 13:23.21 | Rophy | Should be more convinent I think. |
| 13:23.34 | JoshBorke | second one eternally777 |
| 13:24.35 | eternally777 | Is the moral of the explanation to avoid looping when possible? |
| 13:24.45 | Fritti | Rophy: not on all versions of Windows |
| 13:25.03 | Rophy | I only need it to work on my Windows :p |
| 13:25.10 | Fritti | ok :) |
| 13:25.52 | Kebinusan | SimpleCombatLog in the trunk seems broken |
| 13:26.14 | Rophy | did you reset the SV ? |
| 13:26.57 | Kebinusan | let me try that |
| 13:27.29 | FtH|eagle | I did a reset, and it didn't work |
| 13:27.51 | Thrae | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12052591&postId=118114117 <-- New Protection Warrior Talent Suggestion |
| 13:27.56 | Rophy | still doesnt work with the newest SCL? |
| 13:28.10 | FtH|eagle | yep |
| 13:28.13 | Rophy | that meaks me headache |
| 13:28.15 | Rophy | =.= |
| 13:28.56 | Rophy | try /script SimpleCombatLogDB = nil SimpleCombatLogDBPerChar = nil |
| 13:28.57 | Rophy | then reloadui? |
| 13:29.06 | Thrae | It would be helpful to Rophy if you pasted the errors on http://ace.pastey.net |
| 13:29.33 | Rophy | it's very hard to reproduce corrupted SVs anyway :( |
| 13:30.14 | Thrae | I just saw them say "It's broken", nothing about the SV in particular |
| 13:30.35 | Thrae | If they think their SV is broken, they should just back it up, then delete it |
| 13:31.09 | Rophy | Because I'm doing massive change to SV formats so I expect the errors to be from the SVs. |
| 13:31.22 | Thrae | Rophy: Do you have migration code? |
| 13:31.29 | Rophy | No |
| 13:31.53 | Rophy | I dun want to make a migation code for every version I commit, I think it's still beta :p |
| 13:31.57 | Thrae | You can steal mine from TinyTip if you want, I've rarely seen people have problems with corrupt SVs aside from WoW itself screwing up. |
| 13:32.22 | Rophy | hm |
| 13:32.24 | Thrae | Well with mine all you need to do is change a few lines to add migration |
| 13:32.49 | Rophy | something like "if not newversion then resets SV" ? |
| 13:33.54 | Thrae | Nope, it uses two functions -- GetAllOptions which returns a table of all the SV variables and their type (string, table, boolean, number, etc.) |
| 13:33.54 | Kebinusan | That worked for me rophy |
| 13:34.00 | Kebinusan | thanks |
| 13:34.06 | Thrae | And InitDB which prunes out and adds entries |
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| 13:34.23 | Thrae | But only if DBVer ~= SVDB._v |
| 13:34.36 | Rophy | Kebinusan: no more error? |
| 13:34.38 | Kebinusan | Although Im seeing events twice now even with supress combat log checked |
| 13:34.43 | Kebinusan | no more error though |
| 13:35.10 | Rophy | seeing all events twice? |
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| 13:36.32 | Kebinusan | Yeah maybe because I have color skills by element checked, give me a minute to test |
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| 13:40.38 | Kebinusan | yeah, I still see events like 'you fire 11' 'you fire 11' twice every time I take damage |
| 13:41.18 | Rophy | can you paste your per-char SV to pastey? |
| 13:41.26 | ckknight_ | gonna sleep |
| 13:41.33 | ckknight_ | cya later, people |
| 13:41.36 | Rophy | gn |
| 13:42.16 | Kebinusan | sec |
| 13:43.21 | Rophy | thank you |
| 13:44.36 | Kebinusan | Rophy, http://www.pastey.net/399 |
| 13:44.48 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9030 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: Glory - bugfix in GetBattlegroundWeek() around line 700 |
| 13:45.17 | ckknight_ | hell, fucked that up, I think |
| 13:45.19 | Rophy | There are [2] and ["2"], duplicated. |
| 13:45.33 | Rophy | Let me check where I am messing up :p |
| 13:46.58 | Thrae | See, my pruning function would have caught that |
| 13:47.27 | Rophy | I'll add a simple "if not myversion then reset" later |
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| 13:47.41 | Thrae | Heh |
| 13:47.46 | Rophy | But this one is post-initialize bug. |
| 13:47.58 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9031 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: Glory - blah |
| 13:48.11 | ckknight__ | okay, should be good now |
| 13:49.42 | Gamefaq|afk | thx for the quick fix ck :) |
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| 13:52.27 | Mikma | gawd |
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| 13:57.58 | Thrae | Is wiki.wowace.com hosted elsewhere then wowinterface.com? Since it's sloooow today. |
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| 14:13.53 | Rophy | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceOptions_data_table#text |
| 14:14.16 | Rophy | the 'input' field should do a tonumber when the inputs are numbers right? |
| 14:15.20 | Rophy | poke ckknight__ |
| 14:16.30 | CIA-11 | 03werehamster * r9032 10HealSync/HealSync.lua: |
| 14:16.31 | CIA-11 | HealSync: |
| 14:16.31 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:16.31 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:16.39 | Rophy | http://www.pastey.net/400 |
| 14:16.39 | wereHamster | is the svn repo already closed? |
| 14:17.02 | Rophy | I can still access it with browser |
| 14:17.08 | Rophy | so no |
| 14:19.36 | Mikk | Thrae: mediawiki apparently loves going into a CPU crunch mode |
| 14:19.41 | wereHamster | I thought only svn access will be limited, not the webfrontend |
| 14:20.14 | Mikk | hmwa svn access limit wa? |
| 14:20.16 | Mikk | no more anon read? |
| 14:20.58 | Rophy | webfrontend = svn access |
| 14:21.01 | Rophy | or not? |
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| 14:21.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad|sleep] by ChanServ |
| 14:21.29 | clad|sleep | Are there any questions before I cut the svn off to users? |
| 14:21.42 | Rophy | svn going to private only now? |
| 14:21.43 | cladhaire | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1980.0.html |
| 14:21.45 | cladhaire | absolutely. |
| 14:21.55 | Rophy | so can't access http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/ with browser ? |
| 14:22.01 | wereHamster | will you restrict access to the web frontend, too? |
| 14:22.14 | cladhaire | Rophy: No you will not be able to |
| 14:22.20 | cladhaire | wereHamster: The web frontend is removed at the moment. |
| 14:22.38 | cladhaire | Drastic changes were in order, and I'll try to reintroduce things as we move forward |
| 14:22.39 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: any eta on the tarballs? |
| 14:22.44 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: read the post. |
| 14:22.47 | Fritti | cladhaire: nice idea wrt to the zips |
| 14:22.52 | [Ammo] | okiedokie |
| 14:23.22 | Rophy | eta when it is up ? |
| 14:23.40 | cladhaire | When what is up? |
| 14:23.43 | cladhaire | did you read the post? |
| 14:24.00 | Thrae | cladhaire: SVN download is actually takes more resources then gzip? |
| 14:24.04 | Rophy | I think you're going to shut down it and turn it into users only now? |
| 14:24.17 | Thrae | s/is// |
| 14:24.20 | cladhaire | Rophy: PLease just read the post I linked, it has all information. |
| 14:24.37 | KaeltenAway | http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main?url=wowace.com |
| 14:24.41 | cladhaire | Thrae: Svn "stuff" takes more than downloading a static file |
| 14:24.42 | KaeltenAway | woot, wb cladhaire |
| 14:25.10 | cladhaire | i dont really plan to stay, but that's not important. |
| 14:25.12 | Kaelten | hows it going guys? |
| 14:25.20 | Thrae | cladhaire: How will the zipping work? Will it be every commit, or have to be done manually by the developer? |
| 14:25.31 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
| 14:25.32 | cladhaire | Did you read the post? |
| 14:25.36 | cladhaire | i dont mean to be a dick, but all of these questions are clearly layed out :P |
| 14:25.54 | cladhaire | its really short, and comprehensive =) |
| 14:26.01 | Fritti | and it has cookies inside! |
| 14:26.17 | Fritti | (does that help in getting people to read it?) |
| 14:26.31 | Thrae | cladhaire: Erm, no, it doesn't mention HOW the "automatic zip" will take place. It just says, and I quote, "What this means is any folder that exists under /root/trunk/XXXXXXX, will be automatically zipped, have a changelog added to it, and put in a folder for download by the users." |
| 14:26.41 | cladhaire | well then there's the answer =) |
| 14:26.54 | cladhaire | its automatic |
| 14:27.28 | yacoob | whee, I'm happy with lockdown. |
| 14:27.41 | Thrae | To me, "automatic" just means it'll zip up everything in the directory for you without you having to specify which directory and which file, etc., that's why I asked |
| 14:27.51 | yacoob | cladhaire: I gues Thrae wants to know what's the trigger for creating a new zip :) |
| 14:27.54 | cladhaire | Thrae: Thats exactly what it does |
| 14:27.56 | CIA-11 | 03fleetfoot * r9033 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble.lua: |
| 14:27.56 | CIA-11 | trunk/BigTrouble: |
| 14:27.56 | CIA-11 | * Split up spellfailed and spellinterrupt into two functions |
| 14:27.57 | CIA-11 | * Some minor code cleanups |
| 14:28.01 | cladhaire | ok look here |
| 14:28.04 | cladhaire | that was a commit |
| 14:28.11 | Kaelten | the zips are going to be created at every commit |
| 14:28.14 | cladhaire | not EVERYTHIGN under /root/trunk/BigTrouble is being zipped. |
| 14:28.17 | cladhaire | and a changelog is being added |
| 14:28.25 | cladhaire | And its done: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1980.0.html |
| 14:28.27 | Rophy | not -> now? |
| 14:28.27 | cladhaire | err |
| 14:28.31 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/files/BigTrouble-r9033.zip |
| 14:28.34 | Fritti | every commit? whoa, I thought only @ 6:00PM |
| 14:28.46 | cladhaire | no, anytime a trunk directory changes |
| 14:28.49 | yacoob | Fritti: read carefully please :) |
| 14:28.56 | Thrae | Yeah, I want to know what triggers the zip, and what will be contained in the zip |
| 14:28.58 | yacoob | cladhaire: you think it won't generate much load? |
| 14:29.01 | cladhaire | if you change 12 trunk files in a single commit, all 12 are zipped. |
| 14:29.05 | Fritti | yacoob: trying to :) |
| 14:29.14 | cladhaire | yacoob: There have only been 9033 commits since April, |
| 14:29.16 | cladhaire | so no :P |
| 14:29.17 | yacoob | (surely it'll be less than all svn clients) |
| 14:29.24 | Thrae | OK, so it'll be a zip by diff, triggered by a commit |
| 14:30.27 | yacoob | I'd be happy with even cutting away those zips, and encourage devs to plan their releases :) |
| 14:30.49 | cladhaire | Thrae: Open up one of the zip fiels, they're wowi-release ready |
| 14:30.50 | cladhaire | =) |
| 14:31.03 | Thrae | I actually think this is an improvement. Some devs *coughTekkubcough* don't like to "release". |
| 14:31.13 | Fritti | heh :) |
| 14:31.28 | Mikma | cladhaire! |
| 14:31.31 | Mikma | you're back! |
| 14:31.34 | yacoob | Thrae: exactly my point, I hate it when the addon is developed "on whim basis" |
| 14:31.37 | _icetrain | how many revision will be kept for each addon or will a new commit overwrite the last one? |
| 14:31.49 | Thrae | There are lots of excellent, release-ready addons on the SVN that aren't actually released yet. Saving people frmo having to figure out SVN clients is solid. |
| 14:33.01 | yacoob | Thrae: in my case it's something different - I rather see "release" as "at least it's tested" and "HEAD" as "It compiles! Ship it!" :) |
| 14:33.07 | yacoob | (yes, I know lua is interpreted :P) |
| 14:33.15 | Mikma | cladhaire: will my account be nuked? :P |
| 14:33.29 | Fritti | yacoob: but the point is that different authors use the SVN differently |
| 14:33.39 | Fritti | ie most of tek's addons aren't released but are tested |
| 14:33.50 | Fritti | (correct me if I'm wrong, Tekcub) |
| 14:33.52 | cladhaire | _icetrain: Only the newest revision is made available. |
| 14:33.59 | yacoob | Fritti: that's what is wrong in that picture - IMHO - Fritti. |
| 14:34.04 | _icetrain | cladhaire: ok thx |
| 14:34.11 | yacoob | cladhaire: I'd keep few releases back. |
| 14:34.16 | cladhaire | why? |
| 14:34.18 | Thrae | cladhaire: Sorry, one more question. If one addon has, say, 10 commits, how can someone easily get the latest files for that addon? As each zip may contain different portions of the addon. |
| 14:34.38 | _icetrain | Thrae: the zip is a complete addon |
| 14:34.41 | _icetrain | not the diff |
| 14:34.43 | yacoob | cladhaire: to have at least *minimum* history. With only 'current recent' some folks will get hurt by download frenzy :) |
| 14:34.46 | _icetrain | including externals etc |
| 14:34.47 | Rophy | it's complete zip by commit. |
| 14:35.18 | cladhaire | Thrae: LIke I said, the zip files are 100% releasable. Its your entire addon |
| 14:35.28 | Thrae | 10:39 <@cladhaire> if you change 12 trunk files in a single commit, all 12 are zipped. |
| 14:35.38 | Gngsk | are you going to go through and zip folders that haven't seen commits in months? |
| 14:35.40 | Thrae | I thought that meant only the files changed are zipped per commit. |
| 14:35.42 | yacoob | think of it as nightly builds, but triggered in other way :) |
| 14:35.54 | Nickenyfiken | this is a good change |
| 14:35.56 | Rophy | 12 files (folders) in the /trunk dir will be zipped. |
| 14:36.06 | Nickenyfiken | much easier to update |
| 14:36.07 | cladhaire | Thrae: no, 12 trunk files, i.e. /root/trunk/perfectRaid, /root/trunk/Clique and /root/trunk/ora |
| 14:36.14 | cladhaire | it'll zip PerfectRaid, Clique and Ora |
| 14:36.22 | cladhaire | its smart enough to handle higher level commits, between addons. |
| 14:36.28 | Thrae | Ahh, you mean directories |
| 14:36.36 | cladhaire | Thrae: aye.. sorry |
| 14:36.40 | FtH|eagle | cladhaire: I like the automatic generated zip files very much. now my members can download a zip file instead of installing a svn tool etc. |
| 14:36.45 | Thrae | Well directories are technically files, hence my confusion. |
| 14:36.46 | FtH|eagle | so good work :D |
| 14:36.49 | cladhaire | Gngsk: Someone can update the .toc's of those adons and that'll trigger it. |
| 14:36.58 | Thrae | OK yeah, this is definately a good change. |
| 14:37.53 | Mikma | cladhaire: how do you define active developers and how can they reach the svn files? :) |
| 14:38.06 | Thrae | Is the SVN hosted on WoWInterface's servers? |
| 14:38.13 | cladhaire | No |
| 14:38.21 | cladhaire | Its hosted on my shared hosting account |
| 14:38.22 | Iceroth | oh, why did my squeenix stop working :s |
| 14:38.22 | Fritti | yacoob: sorry was distracted -- anyway, convince Tekcub to do releases then |
| 14:38.23 | Mikma | svn update --username myusername --password supersecret * ? |
| 14:38.46 | cladhaire | Mikma: Well, you should use the same method as everyone else, download the zip files and use the svn for development purposes. |
| 14:38.54 | cladhaire | think about what the svn has to go through to download one directory |
| 14:38.59 | cladhaire | get the dir at the current revision |
| 14:39.01 | cladhaire | check its properties |
| 14:39.03 | Iceroth | was working just fine a moment ago, did svn update * and now i have round minimap :'( |
| 14:39.14 | cladhaire | Iceroth: I'm not cutting it off til 2:00PM |
| 14:39.17 | Mikma | cladhaire: yeah, i hate that. i kinda like the whole .zip thing :) |
| 14:39.21 | cladhaire | so FFS don't pound the server right now :P |
| 14:39.55 | Nickenyfiken | dir *.svn* /AD /w /s |
| 14:39.56 | Mikma | cladhaire: please don't leave us |
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| 14:39.57 | Fritti | cladhaire: maybe add a link to the changelog too? |
| 14:40.00 | Nickenyfiken | found 612 dirs :-P |
| 14:40.11 | Fritti | ie not only in the zip but on the http://svn.wowace.com/files/ page? |
| 14:40.20 | Fritti | ignore that if it's too hard |
| 14:40.35 | Thrae | cladhaire: Are you planning on zipping up all the old /trunk addons that may never get a commit? Some of the stuff in trunk is working fine and may never get a commit, but the author is either unreachable or doesn't want to release for some reason. |
| 14:40.41 | cladhaire | I'm just not convinced it makes sense, but I suppose I could have a changelog directory |
| 14:40.42 | CIA-11 | 03werehamster * r9034 10HealSync/HealSync.lua: |
| 14:40.42 | CIA-11 | HealSync: |
| 14:40.42 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.52 | cladhaire | Thrae: Nope, someone can update .tocs en-masse |
| 14:40.59 | cladhaire | i could do it, but i dont currently have plans. |
| 14:41.04 | Mikma | cladhaire: html changelog + revisionhistory please :) |
| 14:41.14 | cladhaire | Mikma: Thats going to be harder |
| 14:41.17 | cladhaire | and it'll have to come in time. |
| 14:41.20 | Fritti | nah, HTML is not necessary |
| 14:41.23 | Mikma | damn :P |
| 14:41.28 | cladhaire | I dont think you guys understand how much this affected my hosting. |
| 14:41.32 | cladhaire | we took down the damn server for 2 days. |
| 14:41.46 | Kaelten | lol |
| 14:41.50 | cladhaire | they took serious action against my account.. and this host is VERY lax.. |
| 14:41.55 | Mikma | cladhaire: yes we do understand, you made it clear to us in the forums. and remember when i said there will be problems? |
| 14:41.57 | cladhaire | not a bandwidth issue.. not a space issue. |
| 14:41.58 | wereHamster | HTML is stupid.. I remember when blizzard started using the HTML changelog in the patcher and that broke wine.. I since hate html changelogs |
| 14:42.20 | Iceroth | uh oh, my comment wasn't related to that thing in any way, just read it now :o |
| 14:42.23 | Kaelten | I'm pretty sure html hates you too wereHamster |
| 14:42.27 | Mikk | oooooh i see a description field there... .toc scanner ftw! |
| 14:42.33 | JoshBorke | what's this announcement clad? you're turning off access to SVN for people? |
| 14:42.39 | Thrae | Not a bandwidth or space issue? It was using up too much memory/CPU on a non-dedicated server? |
| 14:43.01 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@dynadsl-080-228-68-037.ewetel.net) |
| 14:43.05 | Mikk | JoshBorke: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1980.0.html |
| 14:43.06 | JoshBorke | found the link, nvm |
| 14:43.21 | dreadlyone | change the chan topic to link to the thread. might help |
| 14:43.27 | JoshBorke | hrm, converting , to %2c breaks things |
| 14:44.18 | Thrae | I had no idea SVN was such a resource hog. I guess the server you're sharing doesn't have SVN on it by default, so you're the only one using it... |
| 14:45.02 | JoshBorke | cladhaire, good for you :-) |
| 14:45.33 | cladhaire | Thrae: Yeah, just think about how many http requests get spawned on something like BigWigs |
| 14:45.34 | cladhaire | TONS |
| 14:45.55 | yacoob | Thrae: and for each request, diff must've been computed |
| 14:45.59 | Mikma | cladhaire: what did they do to your account? :P |
| 14:46.03 | Thrae | Ah right, SVN uses http instead of its own protocol. |
| 14:46.15 | yacoob | plus, I don't know how svn::web works, but if it was working as cgi... OUCH :) |
| 14:46.31 | cladhaire | Mikma: throttled everything, to say the least |
| 14:46.38 | Fritti | time to change my svk again so that it only mirrors addons I develop :) |
| 14:46.43 | cladhaire | yacoob: Its perl running as mod_perl imo |
| 14:46.51 | Thrae | I always thought SVN Externals could have been handled better on the server. |
| 14:46.51 | Mikk | svn::web is a lot faster to retreive files than the svn client |
| 14:46.58 | Mikk | it's like ~6 times faster or something |
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| 14:47.06 | yacoob | cladhaire: at least it saves on forking then. |
| 14:47.35 | Mikk | i used svn to get the dir list for my wiki updater, and then svn::web to get the actual .toc file contents. a lot quicker. |
| 14:47.37 | yacoob | <-- happy with the change, nod, nod. |
| 14:48.18 | Mikma | how on earth could we take down the server for 2 days |
| 14:48.30 | cladhaire | Mikma: Patch day. |
| 14:48.34 | Thrae | Mikma: 1.12 patch day |
| 14:48.54 | cladhaire | Remember, we still have 19,000 people who like to synch the entire svn tree |
| 14:49.09 | [Ammo] | the 'entire' tree?! |
| 14:49.12 | [Ammo] | holy shit |
| 14:49.14 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 14:49.17 | Mikma | export the whole tree? |
| 14:49.17 | cladhaire | that was my whole issue with people |
| 14:49.24 | cladhaire | no, not export |
| 14:49.26 | cladhaire | CHECKOUT |
| 14:49.31 | [Ammo] | damn bastards |
| 14:49.40 | Mikma | ain't that actually a same thing |
| 14:49.45 | cladhaire | no, |
| 14:49.50 | cladhaire | one downloads ALL revision information |
| 14:49.51 | [Ammo] | export does no comparing |
| 14:49.52 | cladhaire | the full logs, etc. |
| 14:49.59 | cladhaire | check the size of your .svn folders |
| 14:50.04 | Mikma | eh |
| 14:50.04 | cladhaire | certinaly not the same =) |
| 14:50.05 | Fritti | wth |
| 14:50.12 | yacoob | Mikma: just hog it down. |
| 14:50.38 | yacoob | cladhaire: like, svk does that? :) |
| 14:50.40 | XLVII | cladhaire, you're the svn guru right? |
| 14:50.44 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BD308.versanet.de) |
| 14:50.45 | cladhaire | no, i just run it. |
| 14:50.49 | XLVII | well |
| 14:50.52 | Fritti | yacoob: svk does that on request |
| 14:50.53 | yacoob | svn shouldn't, unless asked... |
| 14:50.56 | Mikma | yacoob: "hog it down"? :) |
| 14:50.57 | Fritti | yacoob: not by default |
| 14:51.03 | XLVII | what is 'branches' for? |
| 14:51.18 | Thrae | Does most of the http request problems come from externals, or does "svn checkout everything" do a new http request for every single directory as well? |
| 14:51.25 | XLVII | is that for custom modifications of already made addons? |
| 14:51.27 | JoshBorke | new http request |
| 14:51.31 | cladhaire | XLVII: experimental code, or forks of other projects |
| 14:51.36 | yacoob | Fritti: well, yes: the idea is, with svn you have the working copy and latest HEAD, with svk you have local mirror, which holds few, many or all revisions. |
| 14:51.37 | JoshBorke | cladhaire, were you exagerating with the 19k figure? |
| 14:51.49 | Fritti | yacoob: i know, I run svk. you can mirror just the things you need |
| 14:51.49 | JoshBorke | i have a feeling that you might not have been :-P |
| 14:52.02 | Fritti | yacoob: ie only /root/trunk/Ace2 |
| 14:52.02 | Mikma | cladhaire: hmm, i don't see anything extraordinary in my .svn folders |
| 14:52.05 | cladhaire | JoshBorke: yes :P |
| 14:52.08 | yacoob | Fritti: but coming back to the question, did people really used svk for that? |
| 14:52.21 | cladhaire | Mikma: Check the size of the .svn folder, versus the size of the actual files |
| 14:52.24 | Fritti | I mirrored /trunk before clad warned of that, I stopped doing that then |
| 14:52.25 | cladhaire | it can be crazy |
| 14:52.31 | Fritti | but never the entire svn |
| 14:52.43 | yacoob | youngsters those days... |
| 14:53.05 | yacoob | they get movies, music, everything from net, and then they arrogantly mirror whole svn trees! |
| 14:53.07 | Thrae | How is using svk on /trunk different then just using svn and checking out /trunk ? |
| 14:53.12 | Fritti | Thrae: it isn't |
| 14:53.17 | Fritti | it's the same |
| 14:53.23 | yacoob | Outrageous! When I was their age I... uh... well.. I put music down! |
| 14:53.40 | Fritti | which is why i stopped doing that when cladhaire warned against it a few weeks ago |
| 14:53.43 | yacoob | Thrae: but with svk you could get more revisions, up to complete history tree |
| 14:53.52 | yacoob | it's useful if one needs to work offline |
| 14:53.56 | Thrae | Ahhh |
| 14:54.07 | Gngsk | I'm curious what Tekkub will change his signature to now |
| 14:54.22 | Thrae | I had no idea that SVN was such a HTTP hog, really. |
| 14:54.23 | yacoob | If anyone is interested, there's both svnbook and svkbook, well written manuals :) |
| 14:54.48 | yacoob | Thrae: I think it's the deltas that had to be calculated. |
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| 14:55.26 | Thrae | Well, if you're checking out, say, /trunk, you'd think that -could- be one HTTP request (excluding externals). |
| 14:55.51 | Mikma | cladhaire: seems like my commandprompt checkout don't take all revisions etc |
| 14:55.55 | Luak | anybody here who is using this update script? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1774.0.html.... |
| 14:56.01 | Thrae | The info could be compressed server-side and sent as one big download. |
| 14:56.11 | Mikma | Luak: nope, it's gone. |
| 14:56.28 | Luak | ? it's gone? |
| 14:56.33 | Luak | i dont understand |
| 14:56.36 | Mikma | yeah you can't use it anymore |
| 14:56.42 | Luak | Oo why? |
| 14:56.53 | Mikma | svn is gone for normal users. you'll have to download zip-files now. |
| 14:56.57 | Thrae | Luak: Read the top post in General Discussion / Ace Discussion |
| 14:57.05 | yacoob | Thrae: in fact the files ARE probably transfered zipped, it's HTTP underneath, which could gzip things on the fly |
| 14:57.13 | yacoob | but it's still one request for one file. |
| 14:57.23 | yacoob | (and gzip also contributes to the cpu load, hrhrhr :) |
| 14:57.38 | Thrae | Right, I'm saying if they're using gzip anyway, they might as well do it for all files requested in a batch. |
| 14:57.49 | JoshBorke | so table.remove DOES return the object removed? o.O |
| 14:57.59 | Thrae | I'm just surprised, SVN is less efficient then I thought. |
| 14:58.04 | haste | haha |
| 14:58.09 | haste | I broke my chair earlier today |
| 14:58.14 | haste | got a new one, now it broke also :p |
| 14:58.18 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
| 14:58.21 | Luak | but the svn downloads do work..... i dont see what does not work anymore now... |
| 14:58.24 | yacoob | Thrae: "protocol limitation" :) |
| 14:58.24 | haste | and now the store is closed :( |
| 14:58.42 | yacoob | Thrae: and it *is* efficient, for things it was designed for :) |
| 14:59.01 | yacoob | Thrae: pray you won't be using CVS... :D |
| 14:59.22 | Fritti | anyone that's starting to use CVS right now hasn't done any homework |
| 14:59.59 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r9035 10BigWigs/Version.lua: BigWigs: keywords set on Version.lua |
| 15:00.07 | yacoob | Fritti: true that. |
| 15:00.13 | Nickenyfiken | get the sourcecode from wowi and change it to work on the svn zips :-P |
| 15:00.50 | Thrae | Yeah, we should be downing the WoWI servers, not clad's personal server with SVN! |
| 15:01.35 | Nickenyfiken | http://svn.wowace.com/files/Lexan-r9000.zip contains bigwigs too |
| 15:01.46 | Nickenyfiken | is it supposed to? |
| 15:01.53 | [Ammo] | hmm apparently setting keywords and not changing anything doesn't create a .zip? :) |
| 15:02.13 | [Ammo] | oh takes a bit of time |
| 15:02.22 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r9036 10HealHub/ (7 files in 2 dirs): HealHub: Several small bugfixes. <insert extraneous details here> |
| 15:03.33 | [Ammo] | the bigwigs zip contains lexan as well :) |
| 15:03.55 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
| 15:04.01 | Fritti | they just go well together? :) |
| 15:04.06 | [Ammo] | guess so |
| 15:04.29 | [Ammo] | healhub contais lexan too |
| 15:04.31 | Nickenyfiken | isnt it useless to list zips of libs? |
| 15:04.40 | Nickenyfiken | every mod loves lexan |
| 15:04.41 | Fritti | Lexan Lexan everywhere! |
| 15:04.49 | Thrae | Lexan goes well with anything! |
| 15:04.57 | Nickenyfiken | its going to be toe most popular ace mod |
| 15:04.57 | Thrae | Sounds like Lexan's externals might be messed up, heh |
| 15:05.06 | [Ammo] | something like that yeah |
| 15:05.18 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r9037 10/tags/HealHub/: Created folder remotely for ultra-tagging capabilities. |
| 15:06.10 | Fritti | time to go home, bye all |
| 15:06.31 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 071.0 * r9038 10HealHub/: HealHub: Tagging version 1.0 |
| 15:06.53 | eternally777 | Did I do that right? I don't think I screwed anything up :-\ |
| 15:07.11 | eternally777 | Wait, I accidentally clicked "Delete" on the Branch directory... |
| 15:07.16 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9039 10Lexan/: Lexan -- Temporarily removed tsvn:logtemplate to see if that's screwing up the new zip system. |
| 15:07.19 | Nickenyfiken | eternally777: whats healhub? |
| 15:07.47 | Nickenyfiken | now lexan is only lexan |
| 15:08.41 | [Ammo] | so now I have to make a change in bigwigs |
| 15:08.47 | [Ammo] | to get Lexan outa there |
| 15:09.44 | Thrae | wowace.com is sooo slow, I'm surprised so many people are hitting wowinterface's servers at 11am EST. |
| 15:10.00 | Thrae | Must be all the European guys. Damn those Europeans. |
| 15:10.05 | cladhaire | wait wait |
| 15:10.05 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
| 15:10.07 | cladhaire | ammo |
| 15:10.08 | eternally777 | Nickenyfiken, a mod to create and execute a precise and proper healing rotation during the Loatheb encounter. |
| 15:10.11 | cladhaire | dont do anything |
| 15:10.13 | cladhaire | that 's just teh zip file |
| 15:10.15 | cladhaire | i was working on something. |
| 15:10.17 | cladhaire | =) |
| 15:10.19 | haste | Maybe Lexan is virus! |
| 15:10.19 | cladhaire | the svn is fine :P |
| 15:10.22 | Nickenyfiken | eternally777: ah ok :-) |
| 15:10.22 | haste | and it's spreading :OO |
| 15:10.35 | cladhaire | anyone have a commit that needs to be made? |
| 15:10.39 | cladhaire | need someone to test the new script |
| 15:10.42 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9040 10Teknicolor/ (Core.lua Teknicolor.toc): |
| 15:10.42 | CIA-11 | Teknicolor |
| 15:10.42 | CIA-11 | - TOC update and crap |
| 15:10.43 | Thrae | cladhaire: Should I reverse the changes to Lexan? |
| 15:10.48 | cladhaire | what changes? |
| 15:10.49 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r9041 10BigWigs/Version.lua: BigWigs: Cleanup in Version.lua |
| 15:10.50 | cladhaire | i'm confused. |
| 15:10.58 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 15:11.01 | Nickenyfiken | thats no good |
| 15:11.12 | Nickenyfiken | i thought you were the only one not confused here |
| 15:11.14 | Thrae | cladhaire: I removed the tsvn:logtemplate field just in case that was causing Lexan to be placed in every zip. |
| 15:11.22 | cladhaire | it wasn't. |
| 15:11.26 | cladhaire | if you want. |
| 15:11.33 | cladhaire | i dont know what it was used for |
| 15:12.03 | [Ammo] | lexan is still in the BW zip |
| 15:12.04 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:12.06 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 15:12.10 | cladhaire | yes |
| 15:12.13 | cladhaire | i just deleted the folder. |
| 15:12.17 | cladhaire | like i said, i'm still working on something. |
| 15:12.20 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 15:12.21 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9042 10Lexan/: Lexan -- Added tsvn:logtemplate field back in. |
| 15:12.38 | Nickenyfiken | cladhaire: will the page show branch commits? |
| 15:12.41 | cladhaire | if you commit it should work right now. |
| 15:12.44 | cladhaire | Nickenyfiken: Not at the moment, but yes. |
| 15:12.59 | cladhaire | they are harder, cause multiple branches can have the same name |
| 15:13.00 | Thrae | Seems the tsvn:logtemplate field just manually puts "Lexan" as the first text in any log commit message. |
| 15:13.22 | Nickenyfiken | cladhaire: ok good, maybe it should be separation between tag, trunk and branch |
| 15:13.26 | Thrae | That's a good idea, is there a global tsvn:logtemplate option? We could do tsvn:logtemplate $AddonName$ or something. |
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| 15:13.40 | CIA-11 | 03ammo * r9043 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Libs/): BigWigs: removed metrognome, it's not used anywhere |
| 15:13.40 | Rophy | is oRA1 updated for 1.12? |
| 15:13.47 | Thrae | Rophy: Yes |
| 15:13.53 | [Ammo] | Rophy: if you're brave, try oRA2 :p |
| 15:13.55 | [Ammo] | from my branch |
| 15:13.57 | Rophy | compatible with ctra? |
| 15:14.11 | Rophy | I dun think anyone in my guild knows oRA :\ |
| 15:14.27 | eternally777 | What exactly does Metrognome do? I see it used often, but I can't quite understand the meaning of its description on AceWiki |
| 15:14.29 | Thrae | SendAddonMessage takes the name of the addon, so I believe so Rophy |
| 15:14.48 | Rophy | but doesnt ctra changed message format on purpose to defend oRA? |
| 15:14.52 | Thrae | eternally777: Centralized OnUpdate timer. Allows for multiple timers at different rate. |
| 15:14.53 | Rophy | or is that ctra2? |
| 15:15.02 | [Ammo] | no idea |
| 15:15.08 | Thrae | Rophy: Huh? |
| 15:15.08 | [Ammo] | Cide was offended by someone |
| 15:15.17 | [Ammo] | but it wasn't me and haste |
| 15:15.22 | haste | I talked to him |
| 15:15.34 | haste | I also asked for who or logs if possible, without getting anywhere |
| 15:15.42 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:16.01 | Thrae | Cide has helped out haste and [Ammo] on several occasions before |
| 15:16.06 | *** join/#wowace Neronix (i=neronix@user-544564f4.lns6-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 15:16.07 | haste | he has? |
| 15:16.10 | [Ammo] | thrae: he has? |
| 15:16.15 | Neronix | afternoon |
| 15:16.18 | Neronix | who has? |
| 15:16.21 | [Ammo] | he! |
| 15:16.22 | [Ammo] | him! |
| 15:16.24 | [Ammo] | aka the man |
| 15:16.25 | haste | Yes! |
| 15:16.32 | Neronix | and what has the man done now? :O |
| 15:16.40 | Thrae | Maybe he just doesn't want to give you guys any information until the release of CTRA2, when the format is stabilized. |
| 15:17.09 | Rophy | whether that rumor is true or not, it's ctra2 and not the ctra 1.54 right? |
| 15:17.11 | haste | he did say: "fuck oRA" |
| 15:17.23 | [Ammo] | thrae: he came on this channel saying the oRA dev had told him that oRA was out to compete for users |
| 15:17.25 | Thrae | Or maybe CTRA2 will be modularized like oRA. |
| 15:17.25 | haste | the worst thing he can do is block every client sending out the oRAV |
| 15:17.34 | Neronix | what's happening now? |
| 15:17.34 | Thrae | ~seen Cide |
| 15:17.37 | purl | cide is currently on #wowi-lounge (4h 33m 38s), last said: 'not sure yet'. |
| 15:17.38 | [Ammo] | haste: then I'll make that use the oRA addon channel :) |
| 15:18.10 | haste | well, if he actually does block oRA... |
| 15:18.21 | [Ammo] | then we'll go back to pretending to be CTRA |
| 15:18.26 | Neronix | So Cide wants to lock out CTRA? |
| 15:18.30 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-217-149-206.owb.bellsouth.net) |
| 15:18.33 | haste | yeh |
| 15:18.36 | [Ammo] | I specifically talked to him about oRA living alongside CTRA |
| 15:18.39 | Neronix | Why? |
| 15:18.44 | [Ammo] | and a common RaidAssist protocol |
| 15:18.47 | [Ammo] | for item checks, durability etc |
| 15:18.50 | Thrae | Well I remember Cide saying he wanted to make CTRA modularized such that you don't need to load its raid frames, etc. if you don't use them, but his users complained. CTRA2 might follow that format. |
| 15:18.54 | Rophy | um.... well, I didn't mean to bring up this topic again. |
| 15:19.05 | Rophy | just want to ask if I can safely updates my oRA to use :p |
| 15:19.13 | [Ammo] | Rophy: get oRA2 |
| 15:19.13 | CIA-11 | 03codayus * r9044 10DowJones/ (. DowJones.lua DowJones.toc getItemDKP.pl getPlayerDKP.pl): |
| 15:19.13 | CIA-11 | DowJones - Sort of a zero-sum DKP auction mod. |
| 15:19.13 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.13 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:19.24 | Thrae | If Cide modularizes CTRA2, it's going to be very similiar to oRA, just not Ace'd. |
| 15:19.31 | [Ammo] | which is a good thing |
| 15:19.39 | Rophy | I thought oRA2 is still under construction? |
| 15:19.43 | [Ammo] | it is |
| 15:19.49 | haste | Rophy: so is oRA for that matter |
| 15:19.50 | haste | or was... |
| 15:19.54 | [Ammo] | but you know what you're talking about when it bugs out :) |
| 15:20.08 | [Ammo] | and will not give me: ZOMG NO MTFRAMES! WHAT? NO RAIDFRAMES! |
| 15:20.11 | Tekcub | clad, a thought on the auto-zips... |
| 15:20.20 | Rophy | whatever, I'll try get oRA2 before the raid starts :p |
| 15:20.27 | Rophy | starting in a few minutes :\ |
| 15:20.33 | [Ammo] | get the one from branches/oRA2/Ammo/oRA2 |
| 15:20.33 | Tekcub | maybe make a no-externals zip also for any mods that have externals |
| 15:20.54 | Rophy | ok ok |
| 15:21.11 | [Ammo] | as far as I can see it's working pretty well |
| 15:21.20 | [Ammo] | although the mt frames are still a bit ugly |
| 15:21.31 | [Ammo] | but that's being worked on |
| 15:21.45 | FtH|eagle | [Ammo]: you didn't fix the args bug in the console! :P |
| 15:21.47 | Rophy | I dun care about the frames, I just want the raid leader to shut up yelling at me to download ctra :p |
| 15:21.51 | [Ammo] | Tekcub: SpecialEvents-Bags-2.0 works |
| 15:21.54 | [Ammo] | thanks for that |
| 15:21.57 | Tekcub | good :) |
| 15:22.04 | [Ammo] | FtH|Eagle: piss off, it works for me :p |
| 15:22.11 | FtH|eagle | :( |
| 15:22.12 | [Ammo] | I blame ModMenuTuFu |
| 15:22.16 | [Ammo] | and DeuceCommander |
| 15:22.19 | [Ammo] | they expect too much |
| 15:22.27 | FtH|eagle | it's dewdrop which expects the get function |
| 15:22.30 | FtH|eagle | so blame this lib! |
| 15:22.31 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:22.32 | [Ammo] | so? |
| 15:22.37 | [Ammo] | there is no dewdrop in oRA2 |
| 15:22.38 | Tekcub | Rophy, tell your RL to fuck himself |
| 15:22.46 | Tekcub | then install oRA and say you got CTRA |
| 15:22.51 | [Ammo] | Rophy: get oRA2 |
| 15:22.52 | Rophy | that's what I was doing. |
| 15:22.57 | FtH|eagle | but you should make it work with it :P |
| 15:22.57 | [Ammo] | that should work :) |
| 15:22.57 | Rophy | downloading :p |
| 15:23.03 | [Ammo] | if you don't want frames and nifty stuff |
| 15:23.09 | [Ammo] | delete the Leader and Optional folder |
| 15:23.19 | [Ammo] | and you'll have a nice and tiny CTRA compatible thing |
| 15:23.38 | [Ammo] | FtH|Eagle: I should do no such thing |
| 15:23.57 | Gngsk | [Ammo], you're evil |
| 15:24.05 | FtH|eagle | yeah he is :) |
| 15:24.06 | [Ammo] | the creators of those gobbleAConsoleAndmakeAdewdrop addons should fix it |
| 15:24.33 | [Ammo] | or AceConsole should become as strict as Dewdrop |
| 15:24.36 | Tekcub | what's the issue? |
| 15:24.37 | Azurewrath | [Ammo]: btw. oRA2 survived a AQ40 Raid yesterday just fine.. no errors, everything was working as expected :) |
| 15:24.38 | FtH|eagle | no, your ace option table is wrong :P |
| 15:24.41 | Laric | to get acecomm to step in and throttle I need to make a 'throttle addon' right? it isnt enough that it gets loaded right? something must 'instance' the library i guess? |
| 15:24.45 | Gngsk | oRA2 ready? download oRA2? [Ammo]: no! *svn acces gone* [Ammo] Rophy, Get oRA2! |
| 15:24.46 | [Ammo] | my ace option table is perfect |
| 15:24.46 | FtH|eagle | the get function is a must in the wiki |
| 15:24.49 | [Ammo] | for AceConsole |
| 15:25.03 | [Ammo] | gngsk: I trust rophy :p |
| 15:25.13 | Gngsk | lol |
| 15:25.13 | Codayus | Oh hmm, last night fighting Ossirian, there didn't seem to be any syncing of his supreme timer. Known bug or something screwy on my side? |
| 15:25.24 | [Ammo] | your side |
| 15:25.32 | [Ammo] | get people updated bigwigs |
| 15:25.38 | [Ammo] | it sync's fine |
| 15:25.45 | [Ammo] | I lived through naxx with it perfectly |
| 15:25.53 | CIA-11 | 03thrae 07Rophy * r9045 10MCP/MCP.toc: MCP (Thrae) -- Useless space added so this gets zipped. |
| 15:26.07 | [Ammo] | oRA2 isn't release ready, but devs may test |
| 15:26.25 | [Ammo] | and now that the svn is closed I can safely say that :) |
| 15:26.42 | Laric | is the new tarball feature ready? |
| 15:26.45 | FtH|eagle | I tested it and found a bug :P |
| 15:26.46 | Codayus | MT and I had updated bigwigs. A test sync worked. But Ossirian didn't seem to be syncing, since I didn't get a bar even when the MT was on top of ossi. I'll keep a closer eye on it for next raid then, see what I was doing wrong. |
| 15:26.50 | FtH|eagle | but ammo won't fix it :( |
| 15:26.58 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:26.59 | Thrae | Laric: Ues, it's up and working. And it's not tarballs, they're zips. |
| 15:27.14 | Laric | nice.. info on forum? |
| 15:27.19 | Rophy | Thrae: why not update the toc to 11200 p |
| 15:27.22 | Codayus | The core sync code is clearly working. Just ossirian that seemed broken. <shrug> |
| 15:27.49 | CIA-11 | 03thrae 07Rophy * r9046 10MCP/MCP.toc: MCP -- Updated TOC. |
| 15:28.18 | Laric | thrae is there some info on it on forum? |
| 15:28.30 | Thrae | Kaelten: ping |
| 15:28.30 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9047 10oRA2/oRA2/Leader/Item.lua: oRA2: stfu fth|eagle :p |
| 15:28.40 | Thrae | Laric: Ace Discussion |
| 15:28.56 | FtH|eagle | the get function is missing everywhere *cough* ;) |
| 15:29.26 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9048 10MrPlow/MrPlow.toc: MrPlow -- Updated TOC version. |
| 15:29.32 | Nickenyfiken | MSBT vs. SCT2? I dont know what to use, i like both :-/ |
| 15:29.55 | [Ammo] | I fixed the 1 bug your reported! |
| 15:29.56 | yacoob | MSBT? |
| 15:30.00 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:30.06 | FtH|eagle | wait, will report more then |
| 15:30.08 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9049 10Visor/Visor.toc: Visor -- Updated TOC version. |
| 15:30.09 | yacoob | Microsoft Bouncing Text? |
| 15:30.24 | Rophy | [Ammo]: can I do /ora mt refresh even if I'm not A? |
| 15:30.30 | Nickenyfiken | Milks Scrolling Battle Text |
| 15:30.38 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9050 10VisorButtons/VisorButtons.toc: VisorButtons -- Updated TOC version. |
| 15:30.52 | yacoob | [Ammo]: is oRA2 feature complete, and now it's only to be tested? |
| 15:30.58 | Thrae | Nickenyfiken: Some people say SCT2 has memory concerns, I haven't seen them. Use whichever you like more. |
| 15:31.13 | [Ammo] | typing get = function() return "" end, is getting a bit boring :) |
| 15:31.24 | yacoob | Nickenyfiken: Well, never seen it. SCT2 works good for me. |
| 15:31.25 | Laric | sc |
| 15:31.32 | FtH|eagle | [Ammo]: I found one! args.mt.args.remove: "get" must be a string or function |
| 15:31.38 | yacoob | (together with SASCT and RASCT) |
| 15:31.41 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9051 10VisorGUI/VisorGUI.toc: VisorGUI -- Updated TOC version. |
| 15:31.49 | Nickenyfiken | ok using MSBT right now, think im gonna try SCT2 again for a while |
| 15:31.51 | *** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:32.00 | Laric | sct2? |
| 15:32.29 | yacoob | well - sct5 :) |
| 15:32.36 | Laric | ok |
| 15:32.37 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9052 10PerfectRaidTargets/PerfectRaidTargets.toc: PerfectRaidTargets -- Updated TOC version. |
| 15:33.15 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9053 10ThraeFuncs/ThraeFuncs.toc: ThraeFuncs -- Updated TOC version. |
| 15:33.46 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9054 10TheLowDown/TheLowDown.toc: TheLowDown -- Updated TOC version. |
| 15:33.48 | Codayus | Haven't tried MSBT yet, but the latest version of SCT/SCTD is very slick. |
| 15:33.49 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9055 10oRA2/oRA2/Leader/ (Invite.lua MainTank.lua Ready.lua): oRA2: blargh at get stuff |
| 15:34.04 | Kebinusan | msbt is still better imo |
| 15:34.09 | [Ammo] | yacoob: it's more feature complete than oRA |
| 15:34.20 | JoshBorke | Kebinusan, why so? |
| 15:34.21 | [Ammo] | yacoob: although I need to add the bufftimers (RN messages) |
| 15:34.32 | Nickenyfiken | i want date AND time on the file page |
| 15:34.53 | FtH|eagle | thx ammo :) |
| 15:35.06 | *** join/#wowace [NI]Machine (n=machine@c-a4bce253.016-112-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 15:35.07 | Kebinusan | JB, personal preference I guess... It just fits better with my hud |
| 15:35.24 | Kebinusan | And I like supporting the underdog |
| 15:35.32 | [Ammo] | Rophy: /ora mt refresh will only refresh your local addons with MTs |
| 15:35.34 | yacoob | [Ammo]: it was a somewhat concealed question "when is the release?" :) |
| 15:35.34 | FtH|eagle | which bufftimers will be reported in ora? |
| 15:35.38 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9056 10EarPlug/Earplug.toc: EarPlug -- Updated TOC version. |
| 15:35.49 | [Ammo] | FtH|eagle: the same as CTRA |
| 15:35.58 | FtH|eagle | I have no clue what ctra reports |
| 15:36.00 | [Ammo] | once I finish the module |
| 15:36.04 | Rophy | [Ammo]: so can I request a mt list refresh if I'm not A? |
| 15:36.04 | FtH|eagle | that's why I'm asking |
| 15:36.16 | [Ammo] | Rophy: no |
| 15:36.22 | [Ammo] | Rophy: to do that do: /ora status |
| 15:36.22 | Health | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/news-318-1-four-horsemen-killed-by-deathtaxes.html#comments - heh.. check the " |
| 15:36.22 | Health | Leaked UI Addon |
| 15:36.26 | [Ammo] | that will send out a status request |
| 15:36.30 | Health | comment |
| 15:36.46 | Rophy | hmm |
| 15:36.53 | Rophy | oh yeah worke |
| 15:36.56 | Rophy | worked* |
| 15:37.02 | Rophy | so oRA2 is working! |
| 15:37.13 | Mikma | msbt is good, blizz's scroller is teh bestest |
| 15:37.19 | [Ammo] | Rophy: it is :) |
| 15:37.23 | Rophy | :p |
| 15:37.34 | [Ammo] | it's also quite efficient |
| 15:37.44 | [Ammo] | might be some optimizations to be made |
| 15:37.51 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: is blizzards good? |
| 15:37.52 | [Ammo] | but I tried to review most of the code |
| 15:38.03 | Health | http://rdx-raid.com/ |
| 15:38.47 | Thrae | I saw the screenshot, it doesn't look too impressive to me. |
| 15:38.57 | [Ammo] | rdx is evil incarnate |
| 15:39.02 | [Ammo] | has some nifty ideas |
| 15:39.11 | [Ammo] | but the implementation is staggering |
| 15:39.12 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower_ (n=chatzill@host-70-45-82-92.onelinkpr.net) |
| 15:39.30 | cladhaire | anyone have something to commit? |
| 15:39.33 | JoshBorke | have you seen his information on RDX6? |
| 15:39.41 | [Ammo] | cladhaire: want me to commit something? |
| 15:39.49 | Thrae | cladhaire: I just made 11 millions commits |
| 15:39.50 | Rophy | I have |
| 15:39.51 | cladhaire | [Ammo]: If you have something .. hehe |
| 15:39.57 | Rophy | want me to commit something? |
| 15:39.58 | [Ammo] | Rophy has something :) |
| 15:39.59 | JoshBorke | http://www.rdx-raid.com/ |
| 15:40.02 | Tekcub | clad, I had an idea, I put it in that thread for you cause I didn't know you were here :P |
| 15:40.11 | Mikma | Nickenyfiken: i really don't know for sure, but i use it. it's _LIGHT_ ;D |
| 15:40.23 | [Ammo] | JoshBorke: rdx has an increasing rate of around 100KiB/s+ |
| 15:40.25 | Nickenyfiken | Mikma: ok |
| 15:40.36 | [NI]Machine | Ok, I'm done playing with lua. What's the best way to create an UI to match? Massage xml by hand or use the wow ui designer? |
| 15:40.36 | JoshBorke | nice |
| 15:40.53 | JoshBorke | CreateFrame in lua! |
| 15:41.00 | cladhaire | yeah, if someone could maek a commit, i'd appreciate it. |
| 15:41.00 | Codayus | CreateFrame() is fun. |
| 15:41.28 | Mikk | WoWUIDes is evil |
| 15:41.38 | Mikk | it generates XML that's 5-10 times the size it needs to be |
| 15:41.40 | Thrae | Use EtchASketch ;) |
| 15:41.45 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r9057 10PeriodicMenu/ (Core.lua PeriodicMenu.toc): |
| 15:41.45 | CIA-11 | PeriodicMenu |
| 15:41.45 | CIA-11 | - TOC to the hand |
| 15:41.46 | Mikk | and if you tweak it even a little, it breaks |
| 15:41.50 | Thrae | WoWUIDes is like the old FrontPage |
| 15:41.53 | Mikk | yes |
| 15:41.54 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9058 10oRA2/oRA2/oRA2.toc: oRA2: newline removed zomg |
| 15:42.01 | Codayus | lol |
| 15:42.30 | [NI]Machine | Mikk: Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of |
| 15:42.57 | Thrae | [Ammo]: If I want to recommend oRA to my guild, but want to give them the least buggy version, would oRA2 still be OK to recommend? |
| 15:43.13 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@p54A545F8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:43.22 | [NI]Machine | So, manually edit xml or is there a way to use lua to (efficiently) create ui elements? |
| 15:43.22 | yacoob | Eh? Paid addons? Someone is nuts overthere... |
| 15:43.29 | Mikma | ace2 pm? neat |
| 15:43.42 | [Ammo] | Thrae: not really |
| 15:43.49 | [Ammo] | Thrae: wait till I shout out on the forums |
| 15:43.53 | Thrae | yacoob: Want to have some fun? Download Cosmos and look at Thottbot's code. |
| 15:43.54 | [Ammo] | Thrae: which shouldn't be long |
| 15:44.10 | yacoob | [Ammo]: perhaps a beta on wowi? |
| 15:44.15 | Azurewrath | Thrae: even if oRA2 is more bugged, i would give it to them... oRA1 has dependencies and many folders.. people are scared of that.. and they don't delete them when the oRA2 Upgrade comes in then :/ |
| 15:44.17 | Thrae | yacoob: Thottbot runs an interesting "obsfucator" on it. |
| 15:44.32 | yacoob | Thrae: hmmm, I wonder whether I'd parse it :) |
| 15:44.37 | Tekcub | I'm gonna tear this apart tonight http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2397 |
| 15:44.48 | [Ammo] | Azurewrath: as long as it doesn't give me bug reports / extra work |
| 15:44.48 | Tekcub | tekAutoRep here we come! |
| 15:44.54 | Thrae | Azurewrath: You don't want your RaidAssist addon bugging out on you in the middle of BWL if you're a Main Tank / Main Healer / etc. |
| 15:44.55 | Codayus | [NI]Machine: Create frames in lua is my advice. |
| 15:44.57 | [Ammo] | Tekcub: DENIED |
| 15:44.59 | CIA-11 | 03 * r 10/: |
| 15:45.03 | Tekcub | nani? |
| 15:45.08 | [Ammo] | tekcub: need PRT deuce'd |
| 15:45.10 | [Ammo] | now get to it! |
| 15:45.17 | yacoob | Thrae: phehe :) |
| 15:45.20 | Tekcub | screw you hippie |
| 15:45.22 | [Ammo] | no but(t)s till you fix it! |
| 15:45.33 | Azurewrath | [Ammo]: hehe nope, they'll bitch at me, i can report stuff then ;) |
| 15:45.33 | Tekcub | they're whinin at me for Cork too |
| 15:45.39 | [Ammo] | screw cork |
| 15:45.40 | [Ammo] | do PRT |
| 15:45.44 | Tekcub | I'll do tekRep first :P |
| 15:45.46 | Tekcub | then one of em |
| 15:45.49 | Tekcub | anyway, work |
| 15:45.53 | [Ammo] | have fun :) |
| 15:46.05 | Thrae | Tekcub: FuXPFu already does that, I think, or it was intended feature for it |
| 15:46.08 | [NI]Machine | Codayus: I'd prefer to do it in lua but only if you can do everything in lua that you can in xml and it's not a huge performance penalty |
| 15:46.27 | yacoob | Thrae: heh, and what's the use of it... security by obscurity never worked :) |
| 15:46.47 | Codayus | [NI]Machine: You can, and there isn't. |
| 15:46.52 | [NI]Machine | Yay! |
| 15:46.54 | Azurewrath | Thrae: Sure thing, but i'm using oRA2 together with PerfectRaid since 1.12 now, no Errors. Used oRA1 before :) |
| 15:47.02 | Laric | I guess "[17:45] <CIA-11> * r /:" means it is locked now? |
| 15:47.41 | yacoob | btw, is perfectraid always a single column? |
| 15:47.42 | Tekcub | Fucksupfu will switch to the current faction? |
| 15:47.59 | Thrae | Tekcub: It was definately an intended feature, lemme check |
| 15:48.11 | [Ammo] | Tekcub: it does |
| 15:48.16 | Azurewrath | yacoob: currently, yes |
| 15:48.24 | Tekcub | okey nevermind, didn't know anyone implemented it |
| 15:48.24 | [Ammo] | Tekcub: or rather it doesn't autoswitch but you can set the bar to show current rep |
| 15:48.32 | Tekcub | uh |
| 15:48.34 | [Ammo] | autoswitch it easily added to it |
| 15:48.38 | Tekcub | I want auto |
| 15:48.44 | [Ammo] | add it to FuXPFu |
| 15:48.50 | [Ammo] | people will love you for it |
| 15:48.54 | Tekcub | :P work, fuck off |
| 15:48.54 | [Ammo] | as a toggle optin |
| 15:48.56 | Nickenyfiken | yeah do that! |
| 15:48.57 | Tekcub | will tonight |
| 15:49.00 | [Ammo] | you fuck at work? |
| 15:49.03 | [Ammo] | WTB that work! |
| 15:49.08 | Nickenyfiken | i love FuXPFu, only that thing missing |
| 15:49.10 | [Ammo] | ;) |
| 15:49.11 | yacoob | heh, I bet you need quite a resolution to squeeze a whole raid then :) |
| 15:49.51 | Azurewrath | yacoob: /praid scale ftw ;) |
| 15:49.57 | Elkano | Tekub... I'm currently implementing autoswitch to FactionsFu... |
| 15:50.12 | yacoob | ...without loosing readability... :D |
| 15:50.17 | Nickenyfiken | Elkano: nice :-) |
| 15:51.01 | Nickenyfiken | http://svn.wowace.com/files/Teknicolor-r9040.zip only contains lexan :-( |
| 15:51.05 | Azurewrath | yacoob: ah well, i use a scale of 1 while using 1152x862 windowed.. it's readable and not to big |
| 15:51.22 | Thrae | Haha, Lexan FTW! |
| 15:51.27 | [Ammo] | I use 0.64 as small as blizz will let it go through their UI |
| 15:51.39 | haste | what happens if you set it smaller? |
| 15:51.53 | [Ammo] | no idea |
| 15:51.56 | [Ammo] | but 0.64 works for me |
| 15:52.02 | [Ammo] | oh and while you're here haste |
| 15:52.08 | [Ammo] | I still require certain commits from you! |
| 15:52.10 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:52.22 | haste | ah yes |
| 15:52.26 | [Ammo] | don't make me send my minions over to .no to spank you |
| 15:52.30 | cladhaire | jesus christ |
| 15:52.32 | cladhaire | i really hate people. |
| 15:52.36 | haste | oh lol |
| 15:52.43 | [Ammo] | want to borrow my minions clad? |
| 15:52.44 | cladhaire | Nickenyfiken: Yes.. I was working on stuff at that point. |
| 15:53.42 | Neronix | WTB actual svn log |
| 15:53.52 | Neronix | CIA only seems to show the last 50 committs :< |
| 15:53.59 | haste | this is a tip! |
| 15:54.06 | haste | don't set the UIScale below .64 |
| 15:54.15 | haste | it went into reverse here :< |
| 15:54.35 | CIA-11 | 03theondry * r9059 10SnaFu/SnaFu.toc: SnaFu: Shh. |
| 15:56.40 | yacoob | Heh. I have a frame modification in DFM that only works after you login AND do /console reloadui :) |
| 15:57.04 | Laric | cladhaire that comment you have on perfectraid in the /files is that something you set in svn or is that something you set manually? |
| 15:57.05 | yacoob | is it because that Discord loads first before Fubar? :) |
| 15:57.30 | Health | I guess it's from the toc? |
| 15:57.50 | Laric | yacoob hack the .toc and add fubar as an optional dependancy :P |
| 15:57.57 | Laric | then it will load after fubar |
| 15:58.00 | JoshBorke | question: are there any alternatives to Bufftimers by Telo's? Just add the seconds to the buff times? |
| 15:58.18 | Laric | use Elkano or satrina |
| 15:58.28 | Laric | they both have seconds in their diplays |
| 15:58.52 | JoshBorke | i don't want to move my buffs |
| 15:59.03 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r9060 10PerfectRaid/Bindings.xml: PerfectRaid: Cleaning things up |
| 15:59.18 | Neronix | Thrae: 12000? |
| 15:59.22 | Neronix | Isn't it 11200? |
| 15:59.32 | CIA-11 | 03ammo 07Ammo * r9061 10oRA2/oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: oRA only messages will now send with the oRA prefix |
| 15:59.37 | wereHamster | JoshBorke, from the RDX page: Emphasis on functional generation - instead of providing static content like an array or table, the developer provides a function that generates the array or table in realtime. |
| 15:59.41 | yacoob | Laric: heh, that's a hint :) |
| 15:59.46 | CIA-11 | 03silverwind * r9062 10BigWigs/Version.lua: BigWigs: Typo fix in Version.lua |
| 15:59.48 | Thrae | Neronix: Crap, is it? |
| 16:00.03 | [Ammo] | oops :) |
| 16:00.06 | [Ammo] | I made a typo |
| 16:00.08 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 16:00.08 | wereHamster | doesn't sound very memory-efficient |
| 16:00.10 | Kebinusan | my increasing mem rate with rdx was terrible |
| 16:00.23 | XLVII | what addon are we talking about? |
| 16:00.26 | XLVII | this rdx thing? |
| 16:00.27 | [Ammo] | it was 100KiB+ for me |
| 16:00.28 | JoshBorke | wereHamster, i saw :-) nor does it sound cpu efficient :-) |
| 16:00.30 | [Ammo] | with rdx |
| 16:00.33 | mjc | holy |
| 16:00.34 | XLVII | what does it look like / what does it do? |
| 16:00.45 | Laric | [Ammo] doesnt that mean it will not be compatible with ctra? |
| 16:00.52 | Neronix | XLVII: It looks horrible and it's supposed to be a raid mod |
| 16:00.59 | [Ammo] | Laric: read commit message |
| 16:01.04 | XLVII | then why are you all bothering with it? lol. |
| 16:01.11 | Laric | sorry |
| 16:01.12 | CIA-11 | 03neronix * r9063 10EarPlug/Earplug.toc: EarPlug - Re-fixed TOC |
| 16:01.21 | [Ammo] | oRA only => oRA prefix |
| 16:01.28 | JoshBorke | Neronix, i actually like the timer bars |
| 16:01.39 | Kebinusan | Neronix, actually rdx is kinda spiffy functionality wise |
| 16:01.53 | Neronix | He asked what it looked like |
| 16:01.59 | Kebinusan | just memory wise it makes me want to kill small furry creatures |
| 16:02.01 | Neronix | :P |
| 16:02.12 | [Ammo] | it provides nothing over other mods |
| 16:02.13 | wereHamster | haha.. they want money for membersip.. |
| 16:02.16 | JoshBorke | yea, i gotta say the Omniscience seems like it would be a nice tool, but man, the overhead on that thing... |
| 16:02.45 | [Ammo] | it's like running transcriptor on the whole raid and send it to eachother afterwards |
| 16:02.48 | [Ammo] | *BARF* |
| 16:02.53 | tigg | anybody else here getting error XRS.lua:490:attempt to index field 'frame' (a nil value) when creating/altering XRS bars? |
| 16:02.53 | mjc | hahah |
| 16:02.59 | [Ammo] | 'hey this is how I saw the fight' |
| 16:03.03 | mjc | XRS? ew |
| 16:03.05 | mjc | RS |
| 16:03.06 | [Ammo] | 'oh you know what, this is how I saw it! |
| 16:03.32 | Neronix | I think a better way of putting it is to have only certain people run it |
| 16:03.38 | Neronix | and put actual messages into a table |
| 16:03.43 | Neronix | rather than parsing it all |
| 16:03.44 | mjc | one in each group or something |
| 16:03.48 | Neronix | and then send a subset of that |
| 16:03.51 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r9064 10PerfectRaid/Bindings.xml: I hate testing |
| 16:03.59 | Neronix | and only when the leader wants to see |
| 16:04.16 | mjc | it'd be nice to be able to grep combat logs for the noob taht wiped us |
| 16:04.35 | FISKER_Q | enable combatlogging :D |
| 16:04.41 | mjc | that's different |
| 16:04.55 | FISKER_Q | well you could pretty fast just go out and look in the log |
| 16:05.12 | Neronix | FISKER_Q: What if the leader ~= main tank and wants to see his log? |
| 16:05.35 | [Ammo] | I call on common sense! |
| 16:05.52 | [Ammo] | if you have at least a few competent people in a raid, they can tell you what went wrong |
| 16:05.55 | [Ammo] | annd how it went wrong |
| 16:05.57 | [Ammo] | if you don't |
| 16:06.02 | [Ammo] | go look for a different guild |
| 16:06.19 | Saroz | How's the SVN doing? |
| 16:06.26 | FtH|eagle | tigg: are you having other errors that prevent xrs from loading maybe? |
| 16:06.38 | Luak | one questions: when will all zip files be available? i cannot update via svn and there are no zip files.... |
| 16:07.00 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r9065 10PerfectRaid/Bindings.xml: Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain |
| 16:07.17 | Thrae | Luak: If there is no zip file, that means it hasn't been updated. |
| 16:07.19 | tigg | FtH|eagle: it is the only error, it occurs only when I add or alter bars, not on startup |
| 16:07.25 | Thrae | So your current version is the latest. |
| 16:07.32 | FtH|eagle | I'll take a look later |
| 16:07.44 | tigg | I think Saroz had the same problem a couple of days ago |
| 16:07.53 | Luak | thats the problem i dont have. i had a pc crash an hat to reinstall wow |
| 16:07.58 | Luak | so i have nothing |
| 16:07.58 | *** join/#wowace Bigdaddy (i=Bigdaddy@84-73-188-24.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 16:08.23 | tigg | FtH|eagle: ah, just in case it matters... I run deDE client |
| 16:08.27 | Luak | my autoupdate mod does not work and there are no zip files.... |
| 16:08.28 | Saroz | with if clad doing to his bindings.xml? |
| 16:08.30 | wereHamster | Luak, you didn't backup WTF and Interface? |
| 16:08.34 | Saroz | tigg? |
| 16:08.46 | Luak | i didnt backup the ace files... |
| 16:08.47 | tigg | Saroz: broken XRS |
| 16:08.56 | Saroz | ah |
| 16:08.57 | Luak | because i can autoupdate them |
| 16:09.02 | FtH|eagle | have deDE too |
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| 16:09.12 | Neronix | cladhaire: Are we going to have some kind of log search? CIA doesn't let me look back very far |
| 16:09.14 | Luak | now it is no longer possible |
| 16:09.18 | Luak | was a bad timing |
| 16:09.19 | Elkano | hmm, is there any working way left to see the latest commits to svn? cia is only showing the most recent, websvn is down and log only works on indivitual addons lately :/ |
| 16:09.20 | cladhaire | calm down |
| 16:09.22 | cladhaire | not right now. |
| 16:09.39 | cladhaire | heh |
| 16:09.40 | [Ammo] | Neronix: you have an account, you can request the logs in your client :) |
| 16:09.46 | mjc | Elkano: EBB updates far too often :P |
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| 16:09.51 | Luak | would be cool if all mods could be zipped |
| 16:09.51 | [Ammo] | Neronix: it's not like a normal user needs those |
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| 16:10.01 | Neronix | [Ammo]: I needed them as a normal user |
| 16:10.04 | mjc | uses the most CPU time of any addon I use |
| 16:10.10 | Neronix | and I need to see logs while I'm at school |
| 16:10.11 | mjc | Luak: ew |
| 16:10.19 | Luak | ew? |
| 16:10.25 | mjc | Luak: you obviously don't understand the point of SVN |
| 16:10.39 | Luak | ? |
| 16:10.43 | Luak | i understand it |
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| 16:10.48 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r9067 10Clique/Clique.toc: I hate me.. don't you? |
| 16:10.59 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 16:11.04 | Elkano | mjc, the next version won't update that often, but still it doesn't update more often than blizzard's did ^^ |
| 16:11.10 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.35 | Luak | mjc: but since today the autoupdate does not work |
| 16:11.57 | yacoob | why would an user like to follow a HEAD from any versioning system? |
| 16:12.01 | Luak | i alway get errors, telling me something about "is not a working copy" |
| 16:12.03 | yacoob | instead of use latest stable? :) |
| 16:12.12 | mjc | Luak: did you delete your .svn directory? |
| 16:12.26 | mjc | yacoob: branches |
| 16:12.39 | Laric | yacoob that is since the ace community in general is really bad at tagging new releases :P |
| 16:12.42 | Luak | mjc: i deletet every dir with an addon or an external in it |
| 16:12.49 | Neronix | yacoob: Before I was a coder, I was always wanting to know what was was changed, what new mods were added, etc. |
| 16:12.49 | yacoob | mjc: convince person that branched to make a release of his/her version. |
| 16:12.53 | mjc | Luak: user error |
| 16:13.14 | Luak | mjc: Oo i worked so many times now |
| 16:13.15 | yacoob | Neronix: there's changelog for that :) |
| 16:13.25 | yacoob | but, I think I get the idea. |
| 16:13.32 | Neronix | Yeah, I wanted to see a changelog for the whole svn |
| 16:13.43 | yacoob | Others call me crazy for I spend time putting various addons together, configuring them and so on. |
| 16:14.11 | yacoob | Folks that grab freshest versions there are, are just bleeding edge version of that :D |
| 16:14.17 | yacoob | (think gentoo :) |
| 16:14.29 | Neronix | Grayhoof needs to hurry up and commit SBC so I can hack on it |
| 16:14.37 | yacoob | SBC? |
| 16:14.44 | Neronix | Scrolling Battle Chat |
| 16:14.52 | Mikma | Neronix: hack BattleChat |
| 16:14.59 | Mikma | it has more potential than SBT atm |
| 16:15.16 | yacoob | Neronix: all data from combat log scrolling up sct's way? |
| 16:15.19 | Neronix | yacoob: The idea came from here: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1945.html |
| 16:15.31 | [NI]Machine | Are "externals" a core svn concept? I wonder if I could add externals from the official wowace svn to my own project stored on my private svn |
| 16:15.35 | Neronix | Grayhoof's latest alpha's on the 3rd page |
| 16:15.40 | Neronix | [NI]Machine: Yeah |
| 16:15.50 | [NI]Machine | Good |
| 16:16.30 | Mikma | Neronix: trust me, BattleChat is better :P |
| 16:17.00 | Neronix | But it has no icons |
| 16:17.03 | yacoob | Neronix: I try to find the usefulness of such thing, and fail. |
| 16:17.05 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r9068 10Clique/Clique.toc: Its a race! I win! I win! |
| 16:17.10 | Mikma | Neronix: add them in :) |
| 16:17.27 | Mikma | just look how it's done in SBC ;) |
| 16:17.28 | Neronix | I've not seen how it works yet *checks it out* |
| 16:17.30 | Mikma | BabbleLib |
| 16:17.46 | Neronix | I know how Grayhoof's works |
| 16:17.56 | Neronix | a bunch of fontstrings and 2 textures per line |
| 16:17.58 | Mikma | i myself use BattleChat and i think it's still better than SBC. doesn't have icons yes, but it works better |
| 16:18.04 | Neronix | how so? |
| 16:18.29 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/files/ |
| 16:18.34 | cladhaire | auto-generated from the .toc |
| 16:18.52 | Mikma | Neronix: well i got huge amount of errors with SBC when i last tested it. and it's not configurable yet |
| 16:19.10 | Neronix | cladhaire: Sweet |
| 16:19.12 | Mikma | cladhaire: neat :) |
| 16:19.21 | Nickenyfiken | cladhaire: nice! |
| 16:19.23 | Elkano | Tekcub, shall I put my Babble-Class coloring code into Teknicolor? |
| 16:19.26 | Mikma | that's really, really, really useful |
| 16:19.33 | cladhaire | laundry, brb |
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| 16:19.44 | Mikma | tekpup gegege |
| 16:19.51 | Saroz | ffs, SimpleCombatLog is fubar |
| 16:19.58 | [Ammo] | Elkano: why? |
| 16:20.03 | Kebinusan | Saroz, no it isnt |
| 16:20.05 | [Ammo] | Elkano it's already class colored |
| 16:20.13 | Kebinusan | ./scl reset |
| 16:20.18 | Elkano | ammo, tecibs code only works un en systems |
| 16:20.25 | Mikma | Lol, Charlie sheen: I don't vote for myself, I don't deserve it. I have voted my dad twice (Emmy awards) |
| 16:20.27 | Saroz | ty |
| 16:20.39 | [Ammo] | Elkano: that's the way he wants it |
| 16:21.02 | [Ammo] | Elkano: I suggest talking to him first :) |
| 16:21.27 | Elkano | ammo, that's waht I tried to do, wasn't it? |
| 16:22.07 | Kebinusan | battlechat looked kinda cool, I havent tried it yet though |
| 16:22.44 | Iceroth | cladhaire, i hope you won't extract author email address for the listing though? |
| 16:22.58 | cladhaire | Iceroth: Absolutely not |
| 16:23.04 | cladhaire | if they put it in the author field, then it'll go there. |
| 16:23.05 | Iceroth | just checking ;) |
| 16:23.07 | cladhaire | but they shouldn't. |
| 16:23.18 | Kebinusan | Iceroth, I extracted them already and sold them for 0.05 USD each |
| 16:23.25 | Iceroth | ah well... |
| 16:23.34 | yacoob | ...off to buy viagra? :) |
| 16:23.37 | Iceroth | you are now $2 richer? |
| 16:23.57 | Kebinusan | aww yea |
| 16:24.20 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9069 10PerfectRaidTargets/PerfectRaidTargets.toc: PerfectRaidTargets -- Re-fixed TOC version. |
| 16:26.49 | cladhaire | Tekcub: I'll have to see whats best on how to do the no externals |
| 16:26.56 | cladhaire | since it doubles the load, for not a ton of gain |
| 16:27.13 | cladhaire | I'll work on that when I get back from the weekend, along with branches |
| 16:27.14 | Neronix | Mikma: BattleChat uses scrollingmessageframes |
| 16:27.33 | Neronix | unless there's a sexy way to anchor icons to the sides of each line, we're fucked in that department |
| 16:29.19 | Mikma | Neronix: too bad andalia (or something?) wasn't first able to test his changed since servers were down, and after they came up he wasn't online anymore... he said he has made changes and will not go by the way grayhoof has done it |
| 16:30.05 | Neronix | hmm |
| 16:31.39 | Neronix | Guess we have 2 competing projects now :O |
| 16:31.40 | Mikma | yeah |
| 16:31.40 | Mikma | but i think grayhoof will propably win it |
| 16:31.40 | Mikma | and then there will be a branch of his layout with all the things in bant's mockup |
| 16:31.42 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r9070 10HealHub/ (HH-Core.lua HealHub.toc): HealHub: Removed extraneous code and optimized what was left. |
| 16:31.44 | Neronix | I want to bin SCT, and SBC's probably what will replace it |
| 16:31.46 | Mikma | he already has the icons working |
| 16:31.50 | CIA-11 | 03kebinusan * r9071 10SnaFu/SnaFu.lua: SnaFu - Added missing then to SnaFu.lua ~@691 |
| 16:32.02 | Neronix | hmm... so what's missing... |
| 16:32.07 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9072 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.toc: TinyTipOptions -- Fixed TOC version. |
| 16:32.11 | Mikma | Neronix: i personally dumped MSBT and now use blizz fct + battlechat |
| 16:32.22 | CIA-11 | 03laric * r9073 10AoFHeal/AoFHeal.toc: |
| 16:32.22 | CIA-11 | AoFHeal: |
| 16:32.22 | CIA-11 | - Updated the optional deps |
| 16:32.28 | Neronix | The "Battle Chat" header, player header, target header, maybe colour configs |
| 16:32.31 | Mikma | the fct is really, really light and enough for me as a healer / druid :) |
| 16:32.45 | sbu | hmm |
| 16:32.48 | Mikma | it was something like 28Kib |
| 16:33.01 | Mikma | oh, 37KiB |
| 16:33.09 | sbu | any1 planning an forgottenchat ace replacement? that addon absolutely rocks :o |
| 16:33.15 | Laric | cladhaire is the svn locked now? |
| 16:33.18 | Mikma | only thing is that the text should be visible for a bit longer |
| 16:33.20 | cladhaire | no |
| 16:33.21 | Neronix | Laric: yes |
| 16:33.39 | cladhaire | i may not lock it until the end of the weekend. |
| 16:33.42 | yacoob | sbu: not ace, but also cool: Chatr. |
| 16:33.48 | Laric | I guess I believe cladhaire more than Neronix :P |
| 16:33.55 | yacoob | sbu: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2766 |
| 16:33.56 | Neronix | I thought it was locked by now :P |
| 16:34.03 | yacoob | sbu: and it's even better, it HAS tabs :) |
| 16:34.08 | sbu | hehe |
| 16:34.09 | Mikma | Neronix: http://wow.reaktio.net/layout.jpg |
| 16:34.28 | sbu | yep, thats exactly the point i complain about FC - no tab support ;o |
| 16:34.36 | Neronix | Mikma: So just headers? |
| 16:34.40 | Mikma | Neronix: the only difference now is that the text ain't centered since itemlinks won't work from chat :P |
| 16:34.41 | Laric | cladhaire a suggestion. is it possible to make an alias so that http://svn.wowace.com/files/aofheal.zip points to the latest release of that file? |
| 16:34.48 | cladhaire | Nope |
| 16:34.56 | cladhaire | I don't wnat people linking these files like that |
| 16:35.00 | Mikma | Neronix: that's BattleChat |
| 16:35.05 | Laric | oki |
| 16:35.09 | Mikma | wait a sec i'll check my screenshots |
| 16:35.10 | Neronix | I know |
| 16:35.12 | yacoob | Mikma: aaagh, centered text *stabs himself in eye* |
| 16:35.23 | Neronix | I was just trying to get a list of things that need done for SBC |
| 16:35.28 | Mikma | yacoob: that has been a popular comment :D |
| 16:35.29 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/loladin.jpg |
| 16:35.34 | Neronix | Also, I see one little problem with Grayhoof's apporach |
| 16:35.35 | Mikma | there's the BattleChat in action |
| 16:35.45 | Laric | and what is the difference between download and archive? |
| 16:35.55 | yacoob | Mikma: lemme rephrase it: What an unusual approach to readability! :) |
| 16:36.03 | Neronix | Instead of scrolling message frames, to get icons you need 3 fontstrings and 2 textures per line |
| 16:36.13 | Neronix | and on every new message, the others get moved up |
| 16:36.32 | Mikma | yacoob: lol, ok that's original :D |
| 16:36.49 | Thrae | Cool BattleChat is actually implemented now? |
| 16:37.01 | Mikma | ya i use the version in trunk |
| 16:37.06 | Thrae | I've always wanted BattleChat as a Combat Log replacement, but not SCT / MSBT |
| 16:37.20 | cladhaire | archive just means thats what it is.. a zip archive |
| 16:37.41 | Neronix | So what config do you need? just colour changing? |
| 16:37.43 | Thrae | With a 1920x1200 screen, I need my important information in the middle of the screen, and some of the MSBT info is important to me |
| 16:37.57 | yacoob | It's just there in order to check things in case of doubt. |
| 16:38.01 | Laric | cladhaire i just dont get what is the difference between them? |
| 16:38.05 | cladhaire | nothing |
| 16:38.06 | cladhaire | they're teh same thing |
| 16:38.13 | cladhaire | if it was a gif, it would say "Image" instead of "Archive" |
| 16:38.13 | Laric | oh ok :P |
| 16:38.16 | Thrae | yacoob: I don't find myself checking the combat log often |
| 16:38.29 | Laric | but it is different link though |
| 16:38.31 | Neronix | adjusting how many lines there should be and how long they should appear for would be a pita |
| 16:38.33 | Thrae | I do have it, but I don't have it visible all the time |
| 16:38.39 | cladhaire | Yes. |
| 16:38.44 | cladhaire | one tells you what type of file it is |
| 16:38.45 | cladhaire | and downloads |
| 16:38.47 | Mikma | Thrae: FCT + BattleChat = good |
| 16:38.48 | cladhaire | the other just downloads |
| 16:38.56 | yacoob | the thing is - battlechat is rather vertical, while I see thing like that as rather vertical, nothing to stick in the empty place :) |
| 16:38.58 | Thrae | FCT? |
| 16:39.01 | cladhaire | there's three links to download, the download button, the type of file, and the name of the file |
| 16:39.10 | Mikma | floating combat text |
| 16:39.15 | Mikma | the blizzards thingy |
| 16:39.19 | yacoob | http://hell.pl/yacoob/sakwa/gfx/wow/ui/_thumbs/2006-06-28.raid.ui.example.1.png.html |
| 16:39.30 | yacoob | (well, I guess I'd better update the screenshots... :) |
| 16:39.31 | Laric | nice function cladhaire.. |
| 16:39.40 | Thrae | yacoob: You'd rather it be like a stock ticker? |
| 16:40.01 | yacoob | Thrae: nah. Just simple chatframe as it is now. |
| 16:40.17 | Thrae | Mikma: Does Blizzard's implementation do stuff like increase font size on crits? |
| 16:40.22 | Mikma | Thrae: yeap |
| 16:40.28 | yacoob | FCT is *ugly* |
| 16:40.34 | Mikma | it IS ugly as hell |
| 16:40.38 | Mikma | but it works |
| 16:40.39 | Thrae | yacoob: But a ChatFrame is vertical, hence my confusion |
| 16:40.49 | CIA-11 | 03cladhaire * r9074 10Clique/Clique.toc: Clique: .toc update |
| 16:40.54 | Mikma | Thrae: crits and 5 combos are "sticky" |
| 16:41.03 | yacoob | Thrae: ah :) Well, just wide enough to hold the message, and let it scroll :) |
| 16:41.09 | Mikma | that's all i need |
| 16:41.21 | Mikma | oh, and "Entering Combat" + "Leaving Combat" |
| 16:42.17 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9075 10VzScript/VzScript.toc: VzScript -- Updated TOC. |
| 16:42.42 | Mikma | hmm |
| 16:42.55 | Mikma | i need to have a look at ChatJustify to see what fucks at the itemlinks |
| 16:43.11 | tigg | FtH|eagle: ah, XRS:SetupFrames() is only called when joining a raid... so 'frame' is in fact nil when I am not in raid... |
| 16:43.17 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9076 10Visor/Visor.toc: Visor -- Re-fixed TOC. |
| 16:43.44 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9077 10VisorButtons/VisorButtons.toc: VisorButtons -- Re-fixed TOC. |
| 16:44.01 | Mikma | toc-spam! |
| 16:44.07 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9078 10VisorGUI/VisorGUI.toc: VisorGUI -- Re-fixed TOC. |
| 16:44.27 | FtH|eagle | tigg: yeah sure, so you tried to add a bar out of raid? |
| 16:44.43 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9079 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtras.toc: TinyTipOptions - Re-fixed TOC. |
| 16:44.44 | tigg | FtH|eagle: sure I did ;) |
| 16:45.05 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9080 10TinyTip/TinyTip.toc: TinyTip -- Re-fixed TOC. |
| 16:45.37 | CIA-11 | 03thrae 07Rophy * r9081 10MCP/MCP.toc: MCP -- Re-fixed TOC. |
| 16:46.26 | FtH|eagle | ah ok :) |
| 16:46.34 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9082 10TheLowDown/TheLowDown.toc: TheLowDown -- Re-fixed TOC. |
| 16:46.45 | Neronix | Rophy: You still around? |
| 16:46.52 | Rophy | yes? |
| 16:47.05 | tumetom | hm what was wrong with these tocs? |
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| 16:47.17 | yacoob | Thrae: updating to 1.12? :) |
| 16:47.18 | Neronix | See in Parser-1.1, is it possible to give different events different handlers? |
| 16:47.28 | yacoob | ...but you can do it in one commit, no? :D |
| 16:47.33 | Thrae | I updated them to 12000 instead of 11200 |
| 16:47.42 | Neronix | e.g., hits to a Mymod:ParserHits() and misses to a MyMod:PArserMisses() ? |
| 16:48.08 | Rophy | 1.1 doesn't have ParserHit event, only Blizzard events :p |
| 16:48.22 | [NI]Machine | Hm, svnweb 404s |
| 16:48.39 | Thrae | We really need someone to change the topic |
| 16:48.40 | Rophy | I can modify 1.1 to add support for that, but I think just do it in 2.0 |
| 16:48.58 | Thrae | Yeah, Parser-2.0 will use AceEvent. |
| 16:49.01 | Rophy | I'll still be updating 1.1, but only for the new patterns etc. |
| 16:49.13 | Neronix | Rophy: I mean, can I have CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_MISSES handled by a different function from hit events? |
| 16:49.29 | Neronix | That way I wouldn't have to do an imperial ton of ifs? |
| 16:49.36 | Rophy | you can have a handler for each Blizzard event. |
| 16:49.49 | Neronix | Sexcellent |
| 16:50.03 | Neronix`afk | Grayhoof's code is gonna get mutilated ^^ |
| 16:50.10 | Nickenyfiken | what mod makes the stupid chatframe remember what tab i was using on login last session? |
| 16:50.16 | Neronix`afk | (Right after I get slightly fatter) |
| 16:50.26 | Rophy | Neronix: actually I think you can do this easy: |
| 16:50.44 | Rophy | OnEvent(event, info) self:Handler[info.type](info) end |
| 16:50.46 | Rophy | something like that? |
| 16:51.08 | Rophy | then self.Handler.hit = function(info) .... etc |
| 16:52.42 | CIA-11 | 03icetrain * r9083 10oRA_MainTankFrames/oRA_MainTankFrames.toc: oRA_MainTankFrames: Updated .toc |
| 16:52.51 | tumetom | tek: plspls add german local. to Teknicolor |
| 16:53.15 | *** part/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 16:53.46 | [NI]Machine | Yay, got externals working |
| 16:53.50 | Thrae | I thought teknicolour just coloured names based on class? |
| 16:54.22 | tumetom | it does |
| 16:54.35 | Thrae | Doesn't it use Babble-Class? |
| 16:54.38 | tumetom | no |
| 16:54.44 | Thrae | Ah |
| 16:55.05 | [NI]Machine | Current toc is 12000? |
| 16:56.18 | tumetom | some functions that detect the class return the class names in english... others in german ..thats a slight problem |
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| 16:57.03 | CIA-11 | 03laric * r9084 10FuBar_QuestsFu/FuBar_QuestsFu.toc: |
| 16:57.03 | CIA-11 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 16:57.04 | CIA-11 | - Changed toc |
| 16:57.06 | Laric | :) |
| 16:57.24 | yacoob | haha, that's a nice concept for UI: http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showUI.pl?msgnum=619 |
| 16:58.02 | Worf | sigh, the blizzard chat windows are so horribly broken, and i think this brokenness is new.. the tabs in the chat window tend to jump around and do things they should not do.. |
| 16:58.10 | Laric | that was fun |
| 16:59.45 | Worf | fun, but horrible ui... if, then it has to be kde, or openbox or something like that :) |
| 16:59.58 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r9085 10HealHub/HH-Core.lua: HealHub: Fixed event registration; heals no longer register when outside of Naxxramas. |
| 17:00.13 | yacoob | Worf: I'd say a person that would like to do his/her day-to-day play with this, is... a bit crazy. But as a concept? Fun! :D |
| 17:00.35 | JoshBorke | what's this HealHub thing? |
| 17:00.47 | Gngsk | it's for loatheb |
| 17:00.54 | Thiana | Hmm, do thottbot or allakhazam have the in game item codes in their db somewhere? |
| 17:00.54 | oxman | something like a healbot :p |
| 17:01.35 | tumetom | Thiana somewhere... sure |
| 17:02.03 | tumetom | it appears in each itemlink |
| 17:03.32 | eternally777 | Josh, I'm writing it to automatically create and execute a precise healing rotation for the Loatheb encounter. |
| 17:04.55 | oxman | tss... |
| 17:05.10 | oxman | l2p |
| 17:05.49 | Kemayo | Laric: Could you do that stuff on a branch, perhaps? |
| 17:06.04 | JoshBorke | ah, i see |
| 17:06.27 | JoshBorke | what's the impending doom that he throws off? is that just a large shadow attack? |
| 17:07.01 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 * r9086 10/branches/HealHub/: HealHub: Creating branch. |
| 17:07.04 | Gngsk | remember lucifron! |
| 17:07.05 | Nickenyfiken | is it simple to place a texture at the bottom of the screen? i dont want to install DART just to have a texture... |
| 17:07.44 | JoshBorke | Nickenyfiken, yes |
| 17:07.48 | Cartas | Any Ace mod to stop the WoW interface options from being so crappy since 1.12? |
| 17:07.50 | Cartas | :o |
| 17:07.59 | oxman | ah ah |
| 17:07.59 | oxman | :p |
| 17:08.23 | Nickenyfiken | JoshBorke: how? |
| 17:08.23 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 07eternally777 * r9087 10HealHub/: HealHub: Branching. |
| 17:08.54 | Kemayo | [NI]Machine: Current TOC version is 11200, not 12000. |
| 17:09.15 | JoshBorke | local texture = UIParent:CreateTexture(<whatever is supposed to go here>); texture:SetTexture(<stuff here too>) |
| 17:09.53 | eternally777 | Kemayo, Impending Doom is a shadow AoE that does a four-digit amount of shadow damage after 20-30 seconds. I don't recall the numbers precisely. |
| 17:10.08 | JoshBorke | eternally777, thanks :-0 |
| 17:10.12 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:10.37 | Kemayo | J, K, they're so similar... and autocomplete is so useful... :) |
| 17:11.05 | Nickenyfiken | JoshBorke: thanks |
| 17:11.27 | eternally777 | heh, sorry |
| 17:11.31 | Thrae | Who wanted a localized version of Teknicolor? |
| 17:11.54 | CIA-11 | 03supernico 07Supernico * r9088 10idChatChannelnames/idChatChannelnames.lua: idChatChannelnames (branch) : added battleground leader |
| 17:15.21 | Saroz | MT setting doesn't work in oRA1? |
| 17:15.31 | [NI]Machine | Kemayo: Thanks |
| 17:15.32 | oxman | show or set ? |
| 17:16.07 | Saroz | set |
| 17:16.13 | oxman | dunno |
| 17:16.16 | Saroz | invalid name |
| 17:17.16 | haste | what do you write? |
| 17:17.21 | haste | EXACTLY what do you write* |
| 17:17.37 | oxman | he wants say "exactly what do you write" |
| 17:17.37 | oxman | ;) |
| 17:17.37 | Kemayo | (And now, to stop IRCing at work!) |
| 17:18.07 | [NI]Machine | Hm, this is probably another lame question, but is there a way in ace2 to load an addon but keep it suspended? Ie enable it at character select but don't run OnEnable and set everything up unless you explicitly say so? |
| 17:21.01 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9089 10Teknicolor/ (Core.lua Teknicolor.toc libs/): Teknicolor -- Added localization using Babble-Class-2.0. |
| 17:23.05 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9090 10Teknicolor/libs/: Teknicolor -- Updated externals. |
| 17:23.53 | [NI]Machine | Like auctioneer works. Only a stub is loaded unless you've specified to always load everything at logon |
| 17:24.07 | CIA-11 | 03thrae * r9091 10Teknicolor/libs/: Teknicolor -- Re-updated externals. |
| 17:25.01 | Thrae | There we go, fully localized Teknicolor. |
| 17:25.39 | Thrae | I think the person that wanted it signed off, heh. |
| 17:27.13 | Mikk | [NI]Machine: FuBar? |
| 17:32.23 | Neronix | Rophy: So you can't do that sort of stuff until parser-2.0? |
| 17:32.37 | Rophy | do that in parser-1.1? |
| 17:32.46 | Neronix | nvm |
| 17:33.02 | Rophy | o_O |
| 17:33.09 | eternally777 | Does "SPELL_PARTY_BUFF" fire when raid members heal as well? |
| 17:33.37 | JoshBorke | don't think so |
| 17:33.49 | Rophy | I'll be updating paterns, may be doin more optimizations to Parser-1.1, but won't be changing any APIs. |
| 17:34.16 | Elkano | Thrae, I did it myself localy but I wanted to ask Tekkub first before commiting ^^ |
| 17:34.19 | Thrae | Neronix: You can't change the API without changing the major version, that's why it's Parser-2.0 |
| 17:34.34 | Rophy | I can make a Parser-1.2 :p |
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| 17:34.41 | Rophy | but pointless IMO |
| 17:34.58 | Thrae | Elkano: Using Babble-Class? |
| 17:35.00 | Rophy | actually the current Parser-2.0 is slower than Parser-1.1 by my testing :X |
| 17:35.43 | Thrae | Rophy: Ever heard the phrase, "You gotta break it before you can fix it." |
| 17:36.15 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r9092 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: QuestsFu - renamed showText table to showTextOpt since it was overwriting a FBP-2.0 setting |
| 17:36.37 | Rophy | Doing everything manually (no AceEvent etc) actually can make it faster. |
| 17:36.51 | Elkano | Thrae: yes ^^ |
| 17:37.04 | Rophy | I'm upgrading to AceEvent mainly for users to be able to use AceEvent functions. |
| 17:37.08 | Thrae | Well, don't forget about branches |
| 17:37.56 | Rophy | btw Thare take a look at my branch :p |
| 17:38.01 | Thrae | Rophy: If they're getting events fired fast enough to warrent a speed decrease vs Parser-1.1, then they can use AceEvent's bucketing system |
| 17:38.51 | Rophy | i haven't add the custom event - Blizzard event list yet |
| 17:38.57 | Rophy | but it's working, no info table now. |
| 17:39.24 | Thrae | Yeah I took a look at it last night, good job. |
| 17:39.52 | Thrae | I need to finish up this rewrite real quick and then I have work today, this weekend I hope to add the custom events to Parser-2.0. |
| 17:40.06 | Thrae | That and get together with ckknight to see if we can speed up AceEvent-2.0 usage further. |
| 17:40.20 | Rophy | speed up AceEvent? |
| 17:40.26 | Rophy | that isn't our job I think :p |
| 17:40.31 | Rophy | and AceEvent isn't slow I think? |
| 17:40.36 | Thrae | No no, speed up how we use it ;) |
| 17:40.43 | dreadlyone | Rophy : do you wanna hear about an error im getting with scl or is there somewhere else you want me to post? |
| 17:41.08 | Rophy | dreadlyone paste it to me :p |
| 17:41.20 | dreadlyone | in a pm? |
| 17:41.24 | Rophy | sure |
| 17:41.34 | Thrae | There might be little tricks and hacks we can do, like testing AceEvent.registry[ event ] instead of doing AceEvent:IsEventRegistered(event) |
| 17:42.04 | Rophy | hmm? why the need to check for IsEventRegistered? |
| 17:42.48 | Thrae | Well we'll need that when we add custom events to determine which patterns to add for parsing. |
| 17:43.07 | JoshBorke | will AceEvent be required for ParserLib-2.0? |
| 17:43.23 | Rophy | yes JoshBorke |
| 17:43.43 | Neronix | Thrae: I meant, "Can you not do something like parser:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_MISSES", MyMod.MissHandler) until Parser2.0?" |
| 17:43.56 | Neronix | I thought it was a feature in 1.1 |
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| 17:44.16 | Thrae | Neronix: Yes, you can already do that with Parser-1.1 |
| 17:44.25 | Neronix | Ah, thanks |
| 17:44.39 | Rophy | Thrae, I thought listening to AceEvent_EventRegistered is enough? |
| 17:44.49 | Rophy | we can know when an addon registered to an event. |
| 17:45.04 | Neronix | Mikma: I think I'll work on BattleChat instead of Grayhoof's code |
| 17:45.05 | Rophy | so we dont need to check that on actual events. |
| 17:45.21 | Neronix | his attempt to recreate a pseudo scrollingmessageframe is making a mess of everything |
| 17:45.37 | Rophy | Neronix, you can already do that in Parser-1.1 I think? |
| 17:45.38 | Thrae | Neronix: Convince Mikk to switch to ParserLib |
| 17:45.44 | Rophy | that RegisterEvent, MissHandler thing |
| 17:45.57 | JoshBorke | lol Neronix |
| 17:46.04 | Neronix | There HAS to be a way of SetPointing a texture to a specific line of a scrollingmessageframe |
| 17:46.28 | Neronix | Rophy: Then why did you tell me "OnEvent(event, info) self:Handler[info.type](info) end" ? |
| 17:46.59 | Rophy | because one Blizzard even can have more than one type of patterns |
| 17:47.08 | Rophy | so you can't always do the one you said? |
| 17:47.11 | Thrae | Rophy: Hmmm I see what you mean, I was thinking of something else. |
| 17:47.14 | Neronix | Thrae: What has Mikk got to do with this? |
| 17:47.21 | Neronix | Rophy: I see. I'll do your way then |
| 17:47.24 | Thrae | Neronix: Not that Mikk, the other Mikk |
| 17:47.36 | JoshBorke | o.O |
| 17:47.40 | Thrae | Mikk/Mik's Scrolling Battle Text ;) |
| 17:47.41 | Neronix | What has he got to do with this? O.o |
| 17:47.57 | Thrae | He uses both names, unfortunately for our Mikk |
| 17:48.10 | Mikma | Neronix: *kisses* |
| 17:48.18 | Neronix | I originally said I was hacking on Grayhoof's Battle Chat implementation |
| 17:48.19 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r9093 10Teknicolor/Core.lua: |
| 17:48.19 | CIA-11 | Teknicolor |
| 17:48.19 | CIA-11 | - don't register names with unknown class (BC returning A0A0A0) |
| 17:48.19 | CIA-11 | - don't 'string.upper' classes |
| 17:48.30 | Neronix | which already uses parser |
| 17:48.40 | Thrae | Elkano: Whoops, did I keep that in? |
| 17:48.58 | tigg | gah, something spams my chat window with "Unknown event: CHAT_MSG_ADDON... |
| 17:49.05 | Elkano | well, the CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM event did ^^ |
| 17:49.11 | tigg | anybody seen this? |
| 17:49.25 | Neronix | bah nvm, this is causing confusion |
| 17:49.49 | Thrae | Elkano: Actually it doesn't matter, Babble-Class is capitalization inspecific |
| 17:50.47 | Elkano | no, it isn't |
| 17:51.40 | Elkano | it would work for en since MAGE becomes Mage and matches, but MAGIER would become Magier and would not been reverse translated |
| 17:51.42 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9094 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.lua SimpleCombatLog.toc localization.lua): |
| 17:51.42 | CIA-11 | SimpleCombatLog |
| 17:51.42 | CIA-11 | - Resets SV when version changes (will remove this when SCL's at release quality). |
| 17:51.42 | CIA-11 | - Added 'all filters' in the type filter menu. |
| 17:51.42 | CIA-11 | - Fixed "/scl show [n]" wasn't converting the n to number, resulting in duplicated messages being shown. |
| 17:51.43 | CIA-11 | - svn keywords |
| 17:52.12 | Thrae | Elkano: Ahhh, so it only needs it for reverse translation |
| 17:52.51 | Thrae | I thought it didn't care about capitlization because the example it gave uses BC"Warlock" and BC"WARLOCK", saying both translate to "Hexenmeister". |
| 17:52.55 | Elkano | actualy it's: if CAPS then decap elseif hasreverse then doreverse end |
| 17:53.06 | Thrae | s/capitlization/capitalization/ |
| 17:53.31 | Rophy | that is a auto correction script? |
| 17:53.37 | Thrae | Interesting way of doing things, that ckknight. |
| 17:53.44 | Rophy | s/la/lalala/ |
| 17:53.49 | Elkano | well, I think this isn't true anymore since we killed the capitalized names in order to enable reverse translation |
| 17:54.05 | Rophy | Testing |
| 17:54.08 | Thrae | Rophy: Ever used VIM or SED? purl uses Unix regexp. |
| 17:54.10 | Rophy | s/es/ess/ |
| 17:54.19 | Rophy | lol |
| 17:54.24 | Rophy | I dont use IRC actualy |
| 17:54.46 | Thrae | Vi/Vim and Sed have nothing to do with IRC, they are text editors. |
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| 17:55.17 | Rophy | I know vim... i mean was that an script :p |
| 17:55.26 | Thrae | Ah...yes it is |
| 17:55.51 | Thrae | Whenever I'm chatting even on WoW, I find myself using Unix regexp to correct myself, it's a good way to keep it fresh in my memory ;) |
| 17:56.12 | mjc | heh |
| 17:56.13 | Rophy | "Unix regexp"? you mean Perl? |
| 17:56.23 | mjc | s/Unix/perl/ |
| 17:56.30 | Thrae | Rophy: POSIX |
| 17:56.37 | mjc | ew |
| 17:56.41 | mjc | posix regex ftl |
| 17:57.03 | Rophy | whatever, I'm going bed, good night :p |
| 17:57.19 | Thrae | g'night! |
| 17:57.23 | JoshBorke | guten nacht |
| 17:57.27 | Rophy | Thrae: I added INSTAKILL patterns to Parser-1.1 |
| 17:57.34 | Rophy | can't remember if I have updated that in 2.0 |
| 17:57.38 | JoshBorke | instakill? |
| 17:57.40 | Rophy | gotta add it :p |
| 17:57.43 | Rophy | 1.12 patterns |
| 17:58.11 | Rophy | fired when warlock sacrifices his pet. |
| 17:58.18 | JoshBorke | ah |
| 17:58.27 | Rophy | "Felhunter is killed by Demonic Sacrifice" |
| 17:59.27 | Rophy | Thrae: and so "death" pattern is going to add another arg (skill) :\ |
| 17:59.59 | Saroz | bigwigs is doing double warnings at anub |
| 18:00.00 | Saroz | :/ |
| 18:00.14 | Thrae | Rophy: Oh boy |
| 18:00.56 | Rophy | Also there are new patterns "%s steals your %s", I have no idea what fires that. |
| 18:01.16 | Rophy | ok good night |
| 18:04.02 | Neronix | Rophy: Mage stuff in BC |
| 18:04.09 | Neronix | they get a skill that steals buffs |
| 18:04.27 | Rophy | BC? |
| 18:04.34 | Neronix | Burning Crusade |
| 18:04.35 | Thrae | Burning Crusade |
| 18:04.38 | Rophy | ah |
| 18:04.55 | Rophy | so I wont see that now? |
| 18:05.09 | Neronix | most likely |
| 18:05.13 | Rophy | hmm |
| 18:05.17 | Thrae | Probably not until they add a new dungeon |
| 18:05.29 | Thrae | Any new dungeon has the possibility of new spells with new patterns |
| 18:05.31 | Rophy | It's impossble for me to see all the patterns. |
| 18:05.57 | Rophy | I dun play all the classes and finish all the instances areas :\ |
| 18:07.22 | Thrae | Rophy: We need better collaboration between the various Combat Log parsing addons, even if they don't use ParserLib |
| 18:07.34 | Rophy | what do you mean? |
| 18:08.09 | Thrae | I'll try contacting the author of SW Stats, Mik's Scrolling Battle Text, and Grayhoof |
| 18:08.25 | Rophy | hmm? |
| 18:08.37 | Thrae | Well just for stuff like missed messages, which pattern is best for a message, etc. |
| 18:08.39 | Rophy | I remember someone suggested author of KTM to use ParsrLib |
| 18:08.47 | Rophy | and seems he isn't very interested in it. |
| 18:08.50 | Rophy | and for swstats |
| 18:09.00 | haste | the author of KTM seems very strange :p |
| 18:09.04 | Rophy | he got a fairy good parser core which is very similar to mine. |
| 18:09.21 | Thrae | Yeah I talked to Mik, he said his parser core was similiar to ParserLib already. |
| 18:09.25 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r9095 10Teknicolor/Core.lua: Teknicolor - should now also cache offline guild mates |
| 18:09.27 | Rophy | in fact swstats' parser is faster than mine |
| 18:09.44 | Mikma | CACHE! |
| 18:09.48 | Rophy | because swstats is only interested in some patterns, especially those with numbers. |
| 18:10.00 | Rophy | so in his parser, he is doing a "%d" search first before actual parsing. |
| 18:10.11 | Thrae | Ahh, well, that's what I want to do with Parser-2.0. |
| 18:10.29 | Rophy | well... |
| 18:10.33 | Rophy | Parser-1.1 is already doing that : |
| 18:10.35 | Rophy | :p |
| 18:10.47 | Rophy | that's what the ParserLibOptimizer table is for. |
| 18:10.53 | Thrae | Parser-1.1 is already doing that, but it's slower in doing that? |
| 18:10.58 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 18:11.21 | Rophy | yup, because I can't just parse for '%d', lots of patterns doesnt have number. |
| 18:11.31 | Rophy | and I need to parse much more patterns than him. |
| 18:11.54 | Rophy | but the idea is similar, think its parser as a ParsrLib which only parses part of the patterns. |
| 18:11.57 | Neronix | What about the parser that crazy Neronix guy wrote for NanoStats? It's TINY! |
| 18:12.04 | Neronix | ;P |
| 18:12.10 | Tain | Who's Neronix? |
| 18:12.13 | Kaelten | I don't know about him though he's weird |
| 18:12.22 | Thrae | Kaelten: Can you change the topic |
| 18:12.28 | Neronix | Oh hell yes |
| 18:12.32 | Kaelten | the topic? |
| 18:12.35 | Neronix | He confused half the channel earlier |
| 18:12.40 | Rophy | but the main, main idea of ParserLib is that. |
| 18:12.51 | Rophy | the client only have parse patterns once for all the addons |
| 18:12.57 | Thrae | Kaelten: Add in a link to the thread about the Ace SVN |
| 18:12.59 | Mikma | Neronix? sounds kinky |
| 18:13.02 | Mikma | i'll have one please |
| 18:13.03 | Rophy | 2 swstats will be slower than two SCTs. |
| 18:14.32 | Rophy | ok really good night now :p |
| 18:14.33 | Mikma | ~emulate Neronix |
| 18:14.34 | purl | ACTION adds more debug strings |
| 18:14.44 | Mikma | ~emulate Neronix |
| 18:14.49 | purl | ACTION adds more debug strings |
| 18:14.52 | Neronix | ... |
| 18:14.55 | Neronix | ~emulate Neronix |
| 18:14.57 | purl | ACTION adds more debug strings |
| 18:14.57 | Mikma | O_O |
| 18:15.02 | Mikma | ~literal Neronix |
| 18:15.04 | Mikma | gah |
| 18:15.06 | Neronix | ~literal emulate Neronix |
| 18:15.09 | purl | "emulate neronix" is "(<reply>(MobInfo2|MetaMap|NeedyList|Gatherer|Your mom|Cosmos|PCUF|X-Perl|Discord) is HUEG LIEK PS3|<action> adds more debug strings)" |
| 18:15.19 | Mikma | that's bad luck? |
| 18:15.21 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> wowace.com | http://ace.pastey.net/ | http://www.lua.org/pil | Ace 2.0.3768 | http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/ | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1980.0.html |
| 18:15.28 | Neronix | Ya |
| 18:15.28 | Mikma | ~emulate Neronix |
| 18:15.32 | purl | PCUF is HUEG LIEK PS3 |
| 18:15.38 | Mikma | there we go |
| 18:16.11 | FISKER_Q | ~roulette |
| 18:16.13 | purl | ACTION watches fisker_q pull the trigger: Click! |
| 18:16.16 | FISKER_Q | :( |
| 18:16.28 | Mikma | ~tryme |
| 18:16.31 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click. |
| 18:17.30 | mjc | ~tryme |
| 18:17.32 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at mjc and fires. Click. |
| 18:17.40 | mjc | ~tryme |
| 18:17.41 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at eternally777 and fires. A whale named Theodore who is the size of a small country flies into the target's face |
| 18:17.48 | Mikma | splat! |
| 18:18.12 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> wowace.com | http://ace.pastey.net/ | http://www.lua.org/pil | Ace 2.0.3768 | http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/ | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1980.0.html <-Read Here for SVN Changes |
| 18:18.51 | Thrae | Kaelten: Thanks, that should decrease all the questions |
| 18:18.57 | Kaelten | ok now back to rewriting me rewrite of AceLocale2.1 :p |
| 18:20.10 | Tain | You know what feature Ace really needs? |
| 18:20.25 | Tain | Bringing me ice cream. |
| 18:21.09 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:23.14 | eternally777 | Ty, :P |
| 18:24.11 | Neronix | Is it still ok for developers to update all their installed addons via the svn? |
| 18:24.41 | Kaelten | hrm, thats a good question, depends on how many developers we have probably |
| 18:24.45 | CIA-11 | 03elkano * r9096 10Teknicolor/Core.lua: Teknicolor - we compair using == instead of =, don't we? |
| 18:24.56 | Kaelten | Elkano: lol |
| 18:25.11 | Thrae | Neronix: If you want to help clad out, use the zip method. If the addon you need to update isn't zipped, do a useless update so it is. |
| 18:25.27 | eternally777 | Wow, that post makes me feel like I'm one of the elite :) |
| 18:25.34 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:25.49 | Kaelten | well I'm the true newb here so you probably are :) |
| 18:26.03 | eternally777 | I am and you best not forget it. |
| 18:26.14 | eternally777 | um.. just kidding :) |
| 18:30.25 | [NI]Machine | horde losing av again. i need more wine |
| 18:30.58 | Neronix | Is the † character a unitcode character? |
| 18:31.05 | Neronix | s/it/i/ |
| 18:31.07 | Tain | Ug I wasn't paying close enough attention to making my drinks last night. |
| 18:31.33 | Tain | Guild killed Nef for the second time ever and I really don't remember much of it. |
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| 18:32.11 | Tain | I don't ever drink that much, I don't know what I did. |
| 18:32.59 | Thrae | Your icon is a bottle of booze. |
| 18:33.15 | yacoob | hm, still no new battlegroundFu... |
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| 18:34.06 | Tain | I did win myself Prestor's Talisman of Connivery though |
| 18:34.46 | Theondry | How can I look and see who or what has been doing things to my addon? CIA only goes back 20 slots. |
| 18:35.04 | CIA-11 | 03kaelten * r9097 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua: |
| 18:35.04 | CIA-11 | Ace2 - AceLocale-2.1 |
| 18:35.04 | CIA-11 | -Redone to simplify usage and streamline interface while maintaining efficiency. |
| 18:35.21 | Kaelten | ok I think this will be the last revision of it that has major interface changes |
| 18:35.22 | Tain | Which as I look at it today with a clear head.. is pretty ridiculous. 30 Agi and 1% to hit chance neck. |
| 18:36.43 | Thrae | Theondry: Using Tortoise SVN, easy as "Show Log" |
| 18:36.57 | Theondry | I don't use Tortise. |
| 18:37.12 | Theondry | (I'll see if svn has something similar, though. |
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| 18:37.43 | Thrae | Tortoise is just a front-end to SVN, afaik, but I use Tortoise so I can only instruct you how to use that. |
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| 18:38.32 | Theondry | Ah HA! kebinusan has meddled his fingers in something dark and sticky! |
| 18:47.59 | eternally777 | Kael, I have to rewrite what I wrote last night? :-( |
| 18:49.31 | Juggie | when you call a function belonging to one mod from another |
| 18:49.42 | Juggie | it it possible to get the calling modname/framename etc |
| 18:50.07 | Neronix`out | poke about with debugstack()? |
| 18:50.20 | Theondry | Juggie: As long as it's in the global namespace, and you call it properly, yes. |
| 18:51.31 | Juggie | Theondry, should i look @ debugstack or is there something else? |
| 18:52.14 | Theondry | I'd just look at the code in the addon, and call it the same way that person does. Just make sure that the other addon is loaded before you try to call that function. |
| 18:52.43 | Theondry | Think of it this way: Every time you use Ace2 to do something, that's exactly what you're doing: Calling a function from another addon. |
| 18:52.47 | Rophy | haste that spam should be once only. |
| 18:52.51 | Theondry | (well, Ace1, perhaps, since Ace2 is embeded.) |
| 18:52.59 | Juggie | yeah, i'm in the process of writing a light acecomm version. |
| 18:53.20 | Juggie | i was thinking of using that but it has too much stuff i dont need/want |
| 18:53.45 | haste | Rophy: fixed today? |
| 18:53.48 | Kaelten | eternally777: not much |
| 18:53.52 | Theondry | I was thinking of it for SnaFu, also, but I only listen to one thing, send only about 50 characters every 15 seconds. |
| 18:54.04 | Theondry | Mm... food. |
| 18:54.05 | Rophy | bug? |
| 18:54.10 | Rophy | I hope I have. |
| 18:54.27 | Kaelten | eternally777: ask me questions and I'll help you get back up and running quick |
| 18:55.12 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 07eternally777 * r9098 10HealHub/ (HH-Comm.lua HH-Core.lua HH-EventDB.lua HH-Events.lua): HealHub: Added Debuff Timer to track time since healer's last heal. Added code to detect heals from players without the mod. |
| 18:55.24 | eternally777 | Kaelten, haven't tried yet. |
| 18:55.38 | eternally777 | Hold on, I'll check it out. |
| 18:55.42 | Kaelten | k |
| 18:56.56 | eternally777 | Ooo yeah, that hurt. |
| 18:57.11 | Kaelten | doh |
| 18:57.13 | Kaelten | sorry :s |
| 18:57.17 | eternally777 | Did you replace GetTranslation? |
| 18:57.27 | Kaelten | GetTranslation changed names to GetInstance |
| 18:57.37 | Kaelten | same args |
| 18:57.47 | Kaelten | however behavior changed slightly |
| 18:58.06 | Kaelten | if you don't pass in a second argument then then SetLocale doesn't get called |
| 18:58.11 | haste | :-------( |
| 18:58.16 | haste | Ice cream 1 - Spoon 0 |
| 18:58.22 | Kaelten | if you pass in true it'll assume you want GetLocale() as the current locale |
| 18:58.30 | Kaelten | otherwise it forces the locale to whatever you pass in |
| 18:58.59 | Kaelten | eternally777: make sens? |
| 18:59.01 | eternally777 | AceLocale-2.1.lua:138 > Attempt to call method `error' ( a nil value ) |
| 18:59.01 | Kaelten | e |
| 18:59.04 | eternally777 | Yeah |
| 19:00.41 | CIA-11 | 03laric 07Laric * r9099 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (FuBar_QuestsFu.toc QuestsFu.lua QuestsFuLocals.lua): |
| 19:00.41 | CIA-11 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 19:00.42 | CIA-11 | - Moving my work from trunk to branch so Kemayo can revert. |
| 19:00.56 | CIA-11 | 03kaelten * r9100 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua: Ace2 - fixed a few typos where self:error hadn't been changed to AceLocale:error |
| 19:01.14 | Kaelten | eternally777: woops, my bad ;) |
| 19:01.16 | Kaelten | try it now. |
| 19:01.33 | eternally777 | :) ty |
| 19:01.41 | Laric | Kaelten whats new in locale 2.1? |
| 19:02.16 | Kaelten | Laric: its faster and provides for non standard locales and dynamic locales, |
| 19:02.27 | Kaelten | Laric: also the interface api wise got changed around. |
| 19:02.45 | Laric | faster is always nice |
| 19:02.47 | JoshBorke | Kaelten, is this part of clad's changes? |
| 19:03.05 | Kaelten | JoshBorke: me and clad discussed this a lot and his ideas and some of his code was incorporated in |
| 19:03.05 | JoshBorke | s/changes/reqs/ |
| 19:03.18 | JoshBorke | cool, just curious :-) |
| 19:04.01 | Kaelten | its not really compatabile with 2.0 on a functional level because 2.1 doesn't support nested translation tables so I inc the major version |
| 19:05.30 | eternally777 | So what does this mean for registering translations? You were talking about a second arg in GetTranslation/GetInstance, right? |
| 19:05.44 | Kaelten | right |
| 19:05.49 | Kaelten | well first register all the translations you want |
| 19:06.11 | Kaelten | then you call GetTranslation("MyAddon") to get the translation instance |
| 19:06.17 | eternally777 | naturally |
| 19:06.37 | Kaelten | if you call it like I jsut did you then have to call L:SetLocale() either with true as the argument or a specified locale |
| 19:06.54 | Kaelten | or if you want to you can short circuit that by just doing GetTranslation("MyAddon", true) |
| 19:07.13 | Laric | so you need to have strings on the identifier part now? |
| 19:07.32 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9101 10SimpleCombatLog/SimpleCombatLog.lua: |
| 19:07.32 | CIA-11 | SimpleCombatLog |
| 19:07.32 | CIA-11 | - Fixed nil bug for victims of "All Filters". |
| 19:07.44 | Laric | ["Good morning"] = "Guten Morgen", compared to Good_morning = "Guten Morgen", |
| 19:07.45 | Kaelten | you put in a string uid into RegisterTranslation() and GetInstance() |
| 19:08.07 | Laric | the second version wont work with 2.1? |
| 19:08.19 | Kaelten | laric I think it would still work |
| 19:08.25 | Kaelten | havn't tested though |
| 19:08.30 | Laric | ok |
| 19:08.42 | Laric | just because it would be less work to convert then |
| 19:08.59 | Kaelten | laric another difference is when you pull it out now you can do L[Good_morning] instead |
| 19:09.05 | Kaelten | which is where the best spead gains come in |
| 19:09.25 | Kaelten | L(Good_morning) is still faster than 2.0's version though |
| 19:09.47 | Laric | different way to read the tables? |
| 19:10.09 | Laric | I ain't a lua expert.. I just know enough to get started.. I learn as I go |
| 19:11.01 | Kaelten | ya the L(Good_morning) is a funciton call which is more expensive than a table look up like l[Good_morning] |
| 19:11.13 | Kaelten | I'm rewriting the API documentation atm,b tw |
| 19:11.18 | Kaelten | eternally777: any more errors? |
| 19:11.38 | eternally777 | Kael, so this looks good then, amirite? http://ace.pastey.net/403 |
| 19:12.32 | eternally777 | Because it's causing an error on line 129 of AceLocale-2.0.lua 'loop in gettable' |
| 19:12.45 | Laric | will try it out when the api doc is ready for it :P |
| 19:12.56 | kergoth | Kaelten: i'm curious.. what performance testing did you do to come to the conclusion that a table index is faster than a function call? |
| 19:13.03 | tigg | hmm... oRA_Zone broken? doesnt show anything here... |
| 19:13.05 | eternally777 | s/AceLocale-2.0.lua/AceLocale-2.1.lua/ |
| 19:13.32 | Kaelten | kergoth: i did some profile testing, but its not as noticable of a difference in 2.1 than it was in 2.0 |
| 19:13.49 | kergoth | http://ace.pastey.net/404 |
| 19:13.50 | haste | holy shit |
| 19:13.56 | haste | I managed to do something bad |
| 19:14.04 | haste | infinite imagemagic loop |
| 19:14.10 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:14.11 | kergoth | fun |
| 19:14.12 | eternally777 | haste, for me, it's the other way around. |
| 19:14.23 | haste | couldn't even write kill in the terminal :p |
| 19:15.08 | eternally777 | :-( that makes my head hurt. |
| 19:15.08 | Kaelten | kergoth: lol I think its the fact I do ome small processing in the __call |
| 19:15.08 | haste | had to SSH from my laptop to fix it :( |
| 19:15.08 | kergoth | Kaelten: that would explain it then :) |
| 19:15.08 | steino_ | I always have ssh from the laptop open |
| 19:15.08 | steino_ | :P |
| 19:15.08 | steino_ | incase i break something |
| 19:15.23 | Kaelten | yep |
| 19:15.24 | Kaelten | :) |
| 19:15.32 | eternally777 | We should have a rating system for links: (G) - noobs can safely look at this; (R) - noobs brains will melt if they click here. |
| 19:15.37 | Kaelten | eternally777: whats the error message? |
| 19:15.41 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 19:15.47 | Tain | I can ssh out from work (new job) for the first time in eight years. |
| 19:15.58 | Kaelten | lol gratz Tain |
| 19:16.01 | kergoth | woot |
| 19:16.06 | Tain | I used to actually telnet out from my last job to home. |
| 19:16.15 | eternally777 | AceLocale-2.1.lua:129 > loop in gettable |
| 19:16.20 | haste | change the SSH port ;D ? |
| 19:16.22 | Tain | But I figured if someone wants to snoop my IRC chats, they can have at it. |
| 19:16.22 | Kaelten | um..... |
| 19:16.31 | Tain | No, had no direct way out. |
| 19:16.36 | Tain | There was a telnet gateway. |
| 19:16.38 | Kaelten | loop in gettable? |
| 19:16.41 | Kaelten | there is no loop there |
| 19:16.45 | haste | ah |
| 19:16.46 | Kaelten | also I don't have a GetTable method |
| 19:16.54 | eternally777 | I can SS it for you |
| 19:17.01 | Kaelten | k |
| 19:17.12 | Rophy | Guys, I'm going to upload an empty folder called !!!Libraries, which will set externals to all the svn libraries, so that I only need to check out this folder to get all the libraries. |
| 19:17.17 | Rophy | Anyone have problem with me doing that? |
| 19:17.38 | kergoth | fine with me, but why would you want all the libraries? |
| 19:17.51 | Rophy | So that I can simply ignore all the externals for other addons. |
| 19:17.53 | Laric | rophy can you set up a toc in it aswell? pretty please |
| 19:18.26 | Rophy | yes it'll have a toc which loads all the libraries. |
| 19:18.50 | Rophy | it's mainly because I want to see startup memory usage for some addons, with warmup. |
| 19:18.57 | eternally777 | http://ace.pastey.net/405 << Buggrabber report. |
| 19:19.07 | Rophy | but I'll need to remove those embedded libraries, and it's annoying for me to do that one by one. |
| 19:19.30 | Thrae | Ace2 and BabbleLib are the two main memory churners |
| 19:19.34 | Rophy | so I think, why not just pack all libraries into a package. |
| 19:21.40 | Tain | Hey Kaelten when will we get a Combine to try out? :) |
| 19:22.11 | Kaelten | hehe |
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| 19:22.44 | Kaelten | kergoth: any idea why Bugsack would be saying loop in gettable? |
| 19:23.04 | *** join/#wowace vitamin-c (n=chatzill@81-8-235-27.savarnet.se) |
| 19:23.11 | eternally777 | Kaelten, is it something that I could be doing wrong? |
| 19:23.17 | Kaelten | not sure |
| 19:23.19 | Kaelten | I'm testing |
| 19:23.20 | eternally777 | Or did that link I posted to my code look correct? |
| 19:23.43 | kergoth | Kaelten: iirc, that indicates a loop in the __index codepath. i.e. doing t[k] in an __index rather than a rawget(), resulting in the __index calling itself |
| 19:23.47 | haste | argh |
| 19:23.50 | kergoth | but i could be remembering incorrectly, my memory sucks |
| 19:23.52 | haste | I broke my SciTE :( |
| 19:24.05 | kergoth | "Happiness is an imaginary condition, formerly attributed by the living to the dead, now usually attributed by adults to children, and by children to adults." |
| 19:24.10 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 19:24.37 | Tain | Happiness is a warm gun. |
| 19:25.24 | eternally777 | So since I'm a "developer" now, do I get my own page on wowinterface.com? :-D Or do I have to earn "developer of the day/week/month"? |
| 19:25.39 | Mikk | You click "Enable portal" to the left |
| 19:26.10 | eternally777 | Aww, it's available to anyone who registers? |
| 19:26.41 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:28.23 | Mikk | Well.. anyone who has successfully submitted an addon, anyway |
| 19:28.31 | Theondry | Cool. I didn't know about that. |
| 19:29.16 | Theondry | Hmm... I should probably see what new options TinyTip has. I've been blindly updating it but not configuring it since he added the LOD stuff. |
| 19:29.53 | Thrae | I've only about tripled the number of options since then. |
| 19:30.16 | Theondry | Only tripled? pfft. |
| 19:30.18 | Tain | Is there an option to bring me ice cream? |
| 19:30.24 | CIA-11 | 03kaelten * r9102 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua: |
| 19:30.24 | CIA-11 | Ace2 - AceLocale-2.1 |
| 19:30.24 | CIA-11 | - Fixed bug eternally777 found regarding an __index loop under certain circumstances. |
| 19:30.30 | Thrae | Actually, maybe more like 5x more options. |
| 19:30.43 | Kaelten | eternally777: that should fix it :) |
| 19:30.44 | Theondry | well... I suppose that's okay, then. |
| 19:30.54 | Kaelten | kergoth: yep you where right, I fubared it :S |
| 19:31.01 | eternally777 | Sweet :D |
| 19:31.03 | Kaelten | well actually I guess not, sicne its now works |
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| 19:31.43 | Theondry | Did the address to browse the svn change? |
| 19:32.02 | hyperChipmunk | Thrae: I figured out better what conditions cause the misplacement on items |
| 19:32.08 | eternally777 | Kael, works like a charm, ty :) |
| 19:32.11 | Kaelten | np |
| 19:32.13 | Kaelten | :) |
| 19:32.15 | Laric | hmm battle chat is pretty nice... just missing scaling |
| 19:32.18 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Put your findings in my thread, please |
| 19:32.46 | Thrae | Or on my portal |
| 19:33.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 19:33.03 | ckknight | hey all. |
| 19:33.06 | hyperChipmunk | not threadworthy; it's just dependent on whether it was over a unit or a frame immediately previous |
| 19:33.19 | Mikma | so wassup |
| 19:33.20 | hyperChipmunk | you're not setting the anchor |
| 19:33.26 | hyperChipmunk | so it just uses the last one |
| 19:33.59 | Kaelten | hey ckknight, new new AceLocale-2.1 is up |
| 19:34.01 | Thrae | I don't set anchors for non-unit tooltips unless you enable the option to. |
| 19:34.07 | ckknight | alright |
| 19:34.10 | Azurewrath | hi ckknight |
| 19:34.15 | Thrae | Otherwise, it's up to the game engine... |
| 19:34.28 | Thrae | Anyway, I'll take that into mind when I get to fixing TinyTip. |
| 19:34.28 | Mikma | it ain't 2pm yet? |
| 19:34.42 | Tain | It is somewhere in the world, Mikma. |
| 19:34.45 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but you move the tooltip when it's over an item button, but you don't fix the anchor |
| 19:34.56 | CIA-11 | 03eternally777 07eternally777 * r9103 10HealHub/ (HH-Comm.lua HH-Events.lua HH-Options.lua): HealHub: Quick-fix for compatibility with the latest version of AceLocale-2.1. |
| 19:34.59 | hyperChipmunk | should use the frame anchor position |
| 19:35.09 | hyperChipmunk | and it just uses whatever the last tooltip was |
| 19:35.33 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Right, I'm saying it -shouldn't-, that's the game engine doing something I don't expect. |
| 19:35.34 | hyperChipmunk | I'll fix it myself after I'm done 2ifying batfu |
| 19:36.10 | Kaelten | currently updating documentation |
| 19:36.18 | hyperChipmunk | items are the one thing that don't need to be touched at all |
| 19:36.27 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9104 10/trunk/!!!Libraries.toc: |
| 19:36.27 | CIA-11 | AIO Library Package |
| 19:36.28 | CIA-11 | - All In One Libray Package. |
| 19:36.36 | Theondry | "-2.1" things is another major version? |
| 19:36.48 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:36.58 | ckknight | hehe, rophy |
| 19:37.07 | Thrae | I have no code which differentiates between different types of non-unit tooltips, and TinyTip's GameTooltip_SetDefaultAnchor should NOT be called with Item Tooltips |
| 19:37.23 | Mikma | hmmh? :) |
| 19:37.26 | Rophy | bah wtf, I commited the toc file, not the folder. |
| 19:37.30 | Theondry | Oh. I can test to see if someone has Fubar by doing "if FuBar then stuff end". how can I differentiate between FuBar 2 and older fubars? |
| 19:37.39 | Mikma | Rophy: that you did ;) |
| 19:37.43 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Do you use an offset with CURSOR? |
| 19:38.27 | ckknight | Theondry, you check FuBar.version |
| 19:38.34 | Rophy | So now I delete the file and re-import? |
| 19:38.57 | Theondry | *sigh* thanks. |
| 19:40.10 | Kaelten | omfg |
| 19:40.14 | Thrae | Are there any new functions in 1.12 that make it easy to tell whether or not you're in a Battleground instance? |
| 19:40.28 | Kaelten | there was a thunderstrike right outside my appartment and its not even raining |
| 19:40.29 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9105 10!!!Libraries/ (. !!!Libraries.toc): AIO Library Package - I suck. |
| 19:41.22 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9106 10/trunk/!!!Libraries.toc: Removing wrongly imported file. |
| 19:41.52 | haste | hey, let's edit this file: vim \!\!\!\[uberaddon\] |
| 19:42.02 | Mikma | :D |
| 19:42.14 | Mikma | haste: windorks don't care :D |
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| 19:42.47 | haste | yeh :( |
| 19:43.08 | tigg | ah, another vim user :) |
| 19:43.10 | haste | "But it loads first then!" "no it's doesn't, bad developer, bad!" |
| 19:43.17 | haste | tigg: actually not, I use scite mostly :p |
| 19:43.25 | Mikma | joe :) |
| 19:43.28 | tigg | hmm... |
| 19:43.29 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: ive looped through GetBattlefieldStatus(index) in the past looking for "active", http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBattlefieldStatus |
| 19:43.36 | Theondry | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=29A9F45032BF0D300EFEAF1AAC7176D7?topicId=11211166&sid=1 |
| 19:44.09 | Theondry | (a little long to read) |
| 19:44.46 | Tain | Yeah but it loads first on *my* system haste so it works for me and that's all that matters. :) |
| 19:44.59 | haste | Tain: I hate you :--( |
| 19:45.21 | Tain | :D |
| 19:45.47 | eternally777 | Hmm, it seems I fixed the AceLocale-2.1 issue in my branch. Does this mean that I now need to "merge" my branch into the trunk so I can still call the trunk copy "stable"? |
| 19:47.11 | CIA-11 | wowbench: 03mikeclueby4 * r115 10/trunk/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 19:47.12 | CIA-11 | wowbench: * (Re)implemented "say" and "whisper" console commands that somehow disappeared some time during early alpha. |
| 19:47.12 | CIA-11 | wowbench: * Unit___("unitId") functions now accept "target" |
| 19:47.12 | CIA-11 | wowbench: * Targetting units via "click" command and "/target" now works |
| 19:47.12 | CIA-11 | wowbench: * Bug fix GetChatWindowMessages(); it was returning something that kept ChatFrame1 from ever listening to Say/Whisper/etc (when was this introduced? 1.12.0.a1?) |
| 19:47.16 | CIA-11 | wowbench: * New half/full APIs: GetQuestGreenRange, TargetByName, UnitIsPartyLeader, UnitIsFriend, UnitIsEnemy |
| 19:47.19 | CIA-11 | wowbench: * New dud APIs: UnitBuff, UnitClassification, UnitIsCivilian, UnitIsCorpse, UnitIsTapped |
| 19:47.26 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: What about GetNumBattlefieldStats? Shouldn't that be nil if not in a battlefield? |
| 19:48.47 | Arrowmaster | maybe, but theres also that bug a lot of people have been having lately where their battlefield scoreboard only has the basic stats on it |
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| 19:49.30 | Mikma | humm, now what was that commit |
| 19:49.37 | eternally777 | Ok then, I'm going to go ahead and try to merge :) |
| 19:49.51 | Laric | hmm running wow in a window gives me 160 fps... thats alot |
| 19:50.17 | vitamin-c | just a question, anyone with some news on CTRA2? sounds as if its going to be a ace2 addon |
| 19:50.19 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9107 10!!!Libraries/: AIO Library Package - externals. |
| 19:50.33 | Kaelten | vitamin-c: no clue, we're allw aiting togather |
| 19:51.16 | vitamin-c | would be realy interesting if it would be a ace2 addon |
| 19:51.26 | Mikma | it's not :P |
| 19:51.32 | vitamin-c | perferably moduled |
| 19:51.35 | hyperChipmunk | just so long as it's not 'interesting' like SCT is |
| 19:51.49 | vitamin-c | what do you mean hyperChipmunk? |
| 19:52.37 | Rophy | ace2 ctra = oRA2 |
| 19:52.55 | hyperChipmunk | it uses the code, but it's far from what we'd consider an 'Ace' addon |
| 19:53.17 | Rophy | what, sct? |
| 19:53.41 | vitamin-c | oRA is, acording to me, not as functional as CTRA |
| 19:53.42 | hyperChipmunk | yeah; none of the good design principles are used |
| 19:53.49 | vitamin-c | nor as apealing |
| 19:53.51 | hyperChipmunk | just the library |
| 19:54.19 | vitamin-c | the functions however are something that it may not lack, I just may have failed to notice them all, but either way, not a spleasig |
| 19:54.29 | vitamin-c | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.39 | Rophy | if I'm a DPSer, 70% of the ctra functionalies are useless to me :\ |
| 19:54.55 | Tain | What does oRA lack? |
| 19:55.06 | hyperChipmunk | visually? the glass windows oRA uses beats the pants off the default stuff |
| 19:55.35 | vitamin-c | weel, I have had a hard time finding the functions |
| 19:55.37 | hyperChipmunk | but that's hardly what it's all about |
| 19:55.43 | vitamin-c | thus, I should concude that it lacks them |
| 19:55.49 | vitamin-c | sure its not |
| 19:55.53 | Rophy | oRA sucks, it can't increase my memory usage to 100KB/s. |
| 19:56.02 | vitamin-c | pardon? |
| 19:56.05 | Mikk | I'm going to say something now. |
| 19:56.13 | Arrowmaster | oRA's disband raid functionality needs some work since it doesnt seem to work at all with CTRAs |
| 19:56.14 | Tain | What functions? I'm not trying to be funny, I actually don't know what things people use that they haven't found. |
| 19:56.15 | Mikk | Joe user doesn't bloody CARE about KB/S. He wants functions! |
| 19:56.18 | Theondry | hyperChipmunk: what are the Ace design principles? (I just throw stuff together and hope it all works.) |
| 19:56.25 | Mikma | Rophy: make a oRA_CTRA module that uses 100KB/s |
| 19:57.16 | Rophy | I suck, I dunno how to make. |
| 19:57.21 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I don't think I use anything that either mod has; bigwigs and perfectraid take care of everything. I keep oRA as a courtesy to the raidleaders |
| 19:57.26 | Tain | I used CTRA's maintank frames last night as i was checking out the new version and was appalled. |
| 19:57.55 | Tain | I'm too used to oRA's main tank frames, the CTRA ones are barely usable by default in comparison. |
| 19:58.07 | Mikk | Here's what you guys need to do: |
| 19:58.12 | haste | frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() for i=1,10 do local kek = {{{}}} end end) |
| 19:58.16 | haste | problem solved! |
| 19:58.31 | Mikk | You need to put up an "AceRaid" package, with oRA+BigWigs+PerfectRaid and whatever else is "missing" compared to CTRA |
| 19:58.35 | Tain | Anyway I'm holding out for Discord_RA |
| 19:59.04 | hyperChipmunk | local kek = {} function() for i=1,10 do kek = {{{kek}}} end end |
| 19:59.20 | haste | :-P |
| 19:59.28 | vitamin-c | lets disscoust, what would be the best way to do kek? |
| 19:59.32 | vitamin-c | :) |
| 19:59.38 | Theondry | Loz is great but his stuff feels overcomplicated. I dropped GB long ago. (but DUF is still awesome.) |
| 19:59.58 | hyperChipmunk | Tain: I hope that was a joke |
| 20:00.08 | Arrowmaster | i tried using DUF but had to remove it the next day midraid |
| 20:00.17 | Tain | haha it was, hc |
| 20:00.48 | Theondry | Arrowmaster: too big a hit on your FPS? |
| 20:00.49 | haste | okey people, what should I fix now |
| 20:00.53 | haste | first one to answer gets it done! |
| 20:01.08 | Iceroth | oCD? |
| 20:01.12 | JoshBorke | HealWatch |
| 20:01.14 | Arrowmaster | Theondry: going through the suppression room with 1fps was a bit unplayable |
| 20:01.30 | Iceroth | the ghost bar thing i posted to the thread |
| 20:01.48 | Theondry | I only raid as far as ony and mc in the 40 man stuff. no problems for me. Haven't found any ace-based unitframes I like. |
| 20:01.51 | CIA-11 | 03rophy * r9108 10!!!Libraries/: AIO Library Package - typo on the externals |
| 20:02.08 | haste | I was thinking of my own add ons! |
| 20:02.09 | Arrowmaster | ohh ghost bar? thats the one thing i do really miss about DAB |
| 20:02.09 | Tain | agUF! |
| 20:02.15 | haste | Iceroth: Let me dig up the post again |
| 20:02.34 | Theondry | Tain: Like I said, I haven't found any I like. (the predefined ones in aguf aren't to my liking.) |
| 20:02.36 | haste | not that wowace worked here :( |
| 20:02.42 | haste | okey, something else :p ? |
| 20:03.04 | Tain | Oooh I know what oRA needs. |
| 20:03.12 | Iceroth | well basically the problem was/is that i get double cooldown bars when i use trinket from itemrack |
| 20:03.22 | Tain | A module to interact with Ventrillo. |
| 20:03.24 | haste | ah |
| 20:03.28 | Arrowmaster | Tain: OHRLY support |
| 20:03.33 | Tain | With lots of annoying voices. |
| 20:03.35 | haste | Iceroth: I'll download Itemrack and test it |
| 20:03.38 | Iceroth | but the 2nd "ghost" bar is some other ability |
| 20:03.42 | Rophy | why does svn need to download 10kB data to know that an external is already updated? |
| 20:03.52 | Iceroth | shadowmeld in my case |
| 20:04.04 | Rophy | the package costs 130kB to update even if all the libraries are already updated. |
| 20:04.04 | eternally777 | Rophy, I've wondered the same thing. |
| 20:04.12 | Arrowmaster | oRA_Ready needs OHRLY support =) |
| 20:04.26 | haste | Iceroth: take it in PMs, my internet is fubar so even IRC spma here :p |
| 20:05.05 | Theondry | http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/Theondry/WoWScrnShot_082506_140247.png |
| 20:05.30 | Arrowmaster | tiny little picture |
| 20:05.31 | Theondry | nothing in aguf like that. |
| 20:05.51 | Theondry | bah. stupid photobucket. |
| 20:05.57 | Iceroth | msg haste i'll just paste my post, it's not long: |
| 20:06.03 | Iceroth | right.. |
| 20:06.14 | *** join/#wowace Tekcub (n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 20:06.55 | Kaelten | ok http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceLocale-2.1_API_Documentation#AceLocale_functions |
| 20:07.05 | Kaelten | its updated for the most recent version of it |
| 20:07.18 | Kaelten | I'm just doing what I can to find typos and spelling errors right now. |
| 20:07.33 | Kaelten | will some people please read and ask me questions about it if something is confusing or not explained well |
| 20:07.53 | Theondry | http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/Theondry/WoWScrnShot_082506_140247.jpg |
| 20:08.24 | Theondry | the portraits by the party members are for the pets. |
| 20:09.08 | Theondry | If that can be done in agUF, then I'd switch. the stuff he has does not... how you say ... "float my boat". |
| 20:10.12 | Kebinusan | Theondry, that story was pretty funny |
| 20:12.19 | Worf | hmm... i'm in my first raid after 1.12 now, but i don't see any MTs... is ora ( current svn ) "ready"? |
| 20:13.30 | Rophy | svn is still public? |
| 20:16.54 | ckknight | hooray |
| 20:16.56 | ckknight | guess what I did? |
| 20:17.13 | Kaelten | what? |
| 20:17.13 | ckknight | I implemented all the speed increases of AceLocale-2.1 into AceLocale-2.0 |
| 20:17.17 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 20:17.23 | Kaelten | um, then you broke something |
| 20:17.27 | ckknight | nope. |
| 20:17.32 | ckknight | fully backwards compatible |
| 20:18.00 | Kaelten | any addon who happened to have used the multi-tiered behavior of AceLocale-2.0 would be broken |
| 20:18.09 | Mikma | Theondry: is that DUF some sort of test? |
| 20:18.09 | ckknight | not true. |
| 20:18.15 | ckknight | that's still intact. |
| 20:18.18 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 20:18.42 | Theondry | the big thing in the center? that's just the options panel... had to bring that up to get the party to display (I'm solo right now.) |
| 20:18.46 | ckknight | it was pretty easy to implement |
| 20:18.51 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.51 | Rophy | what is the multi-tiered behavior? |
| 20:18.57 | ckknight | sure. |
| 20:19.02 | ckknight | Rophy, tables within tables. |
| 20:19.11 | Rophy | L"Test" = { "something" } ? |
| 20:19.21 | ckknight | essentially. |
| 20:19.30 | Rophy | I tried to do that but failed. |
| 20:19.44 | hyperChipmunk | aaaaaaa |
| 20:19.48 | hyperChipmunk | oops |
| 20:19.51 | Rophy | it was throwing error saying the arg must be string |
| 20:19.52 | ckknight | Kaelten, it's not 100% complete, cause I don't have it error yet |
| 20:20.07 | Theondry | + |
| 20:20.26 | Theondry | How does that make it faster? |
| 20:20.52 | Kaelten | Theondry:how does what make it faster? |
| 20:21.00 | ckknight | yea, we didn't even say. |
| 20:21.13 | Theondry | the nested tables... ckk said something about it being faster in 2.1 and now in 2.0 |
| 20:21.22 | ckknight | no I didn't. |
| 20:21.28 | Arrowmaster | Worf: if oRA still isnt working try /script oRA_Core:JoinChannel() |
| 20:21.36 | Kaelten | oh, no nested tables is a feature that is no longer present in 2.1 |
| 20:21.46 | Worf | Arrowmaster, ok, trying |
| 20:22.12 | ckknight | pastey's slow. |
| 20:22.24 | Theondry | L"Stuff" = "Cosas" still works, though? |
| 20:22.26 | Kaelten | ya, whichever one we seem to go to which is fast at first slows down real fast |
| 20:22.28 | Kaelten | yep |
| 20:22.50 | ckknight | Theondry, that never worked. |
| 20:23.09 | Arrowmaster | Worf: if youve got oRA_Menu do a status request |
| 20:23.15 | Kaelten | well you can't assign values by doing L"bob" |
| 20:23.33 | Theondry | ["Stuff] = "Cosas", then. |
| 20:23.36 | ckknight | http://pastebin.ca/149441 |
| 20:23.48 | Worf | hmm - just tried both, but still no MTs |
| 20:23.55 | ckknight | Theondry, I'll be making it so that errors :-P |
| 20:24.18 | Theondry | Where? That's what I put into my localization files and it works. |
| 20:24.24 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:24.27 | ckknight | oh, that's fine |
| 20:24.28 | Rophy | Revision 76110? |
| 20:24.31 | Worf | hmm- how can i tell if ora or easyraid has a problem? can i ask the MTs from ora directly? |
| 20:24.33 | ckknight | Rophy, fake version. |
| 20:24.38 | Rophy | oh |
| 20:24.52 | ckknight | either way, it has the speed increase, which was the whole point of hacking on AceLocale |
| 20:25.01 | ckknight | and it's fully backwards compatible |
| 20:25.48 | evl | Lol |
| 20:25.53 | evl | new auto-questlog thingy looks well tested |
| 20:25.55 | evl | or... not :P |
| 20:25.56 | ckknight | just need to turn the keys into tables, then use rawgets/rawsets, then make it error when you get a bad translation |
| 20:26.08 | ckknight | which will be easy enough |
| 20:26.17 | Kaelten | well it has a speed increase I'm pretty sure that 2.1 is still faster though |
| 20:26.23 | eternally777 | My UI since I've started modding: http://www.wishiwascool.com/images/uiui.jpg |
| 20:28.24 | ckknight | Kaelten, how? |
| 20:28.24 | Kaelten | heh |
| 20:28.24 | Theondry | That's more open space than I have when healing in 40-mans. |
| 20:28.24 | ckknight | they'd be the same speed, essentially. |
| 20:28.24 | haste | Emopaladin :p |
| 20:28.25 | eternally777 | lol I've been in a raid with them for 2 days, they're my friends chars. It's hard to test without being in a raid :-( |
| 20:28.36 | Theondry | I like my pally. She's number 3 on the healing charts and number 2 from the bottom on overhealing. |
| 20:28.49 | Kaelten | I'll test em, but I'm still pretty sure that 2.1 is faster , maybe not as much now, but still faster |
| 20:29.07 | JoshBorke | are paladins useful on loatheb? |
| 20:29.18 | eternally777 | Meh |
| 20:29.29 | eternally777 | Any healer is useful on Loatheb. |
| 20:29.33 | Theondry | Probably. I don't have to devote to raiding bwl, aq40 or naxx. |
| 20:29.37 | Rophy | actually what are the benefits of AceLocale? Other than partial translations? |
| 20:29.46 | ckknight | Kaelten, I really don't see how that's possible... |
| 20:30.04 | JoshBorke | it just doesn't seem like they bring much over a priest. less DPS and less healing. bring them for buffing and Seal of light... |
| 20:30.07 | vitamin-c | a thing I was woundering about, the blizzards ui, wouldnt it be possible to ace it? |
| 20:30.20 | Kaelten | well I'll run identical bench marks and we'll see :) |
| 20:30.22 | eternally777 | Oh, I forgot to have MyDebug running in the top left quarter. That's why there's all that blank space |
| 20:30.31 | JoshBorke | lol eternally777 |
| 20:31.08 | ckknight | okay. |
| 20:32.23 | Tekcub | you know what would be funny? |
| 20:32.24 | vitamin-c | i ake it that it is not possible to make a ace version of the ui blizzard provides us by defualt? |
| 20:32.28 | Theondry | JoshBorke: There are people behind the class; I'm in MC not because it's enjoyable or I get gear; I come because I get to crack jokes, shoot the breeze, talk smack, and make lewd innuendo about stuff. Paladin, druid, warlock, whatever... doesn't matter. |
| 20:32.53 | Tekcub | if FBP could do some hackjob voodo to show plugins on titan, without ever actually interfacting with titan |
| 20:33.09 | Tekcub | just find the frame and dump the plugins onto it :) |
| 20:33.15 | eternally777 | Josh, the aura's too. |
| 20:33.17 | JoshBorke | Theondry, i completely agree, i'm just talking about a completely pure class composition issue, not a people issue |
| 20:33.21 | Tekcub | piss off the titan users |
| 20:34.03 | Theondry | Screw class composition. I lead an onyxia raid every week that's about 10 regulars and 30 pickups... average about 15 warriors and 6 healers, and we one-shot just about every week. |
| 20:34.09 | Mikma | Theondry: really, what's the idea with all those DUF pictures? |
| 20:34.22 | ckknight | Tekcub, well, I wonder if I could just put in hacks into FuBarPlugin to break Titan properly. |
| 20:34.45 | Tekcub | oh that's even cooler |
| 20:34.49 | Mikma | ckknight: encrypt them so nobody can't find em |
| 20:34.49 | Theondry | Mikma: which pictures? the ones next to the party frame? those are placeholders for the pets. |
| 20:34.55 | Tekcub | just hide all titan's frames :) |
| 20:35.00 | Tekcub | and hook their :Show() |
| 20:35.09 | Mikma | Theondry: the _WHOLE_ DUF -picture |
| 20:35.12 | ckknight | Tekcub, or break different things based on the day of the week. |
| 20:35.16 | ckknight | hehe. |
| 20:35.19 | JoshBorke | unfortunately Theondy, naxx ~= ony |
| 20:35.21 | Mikma | Theondry: are you using duf for real? O_O |
| 20:35.22 | ckknight | people would _love_ that. |
| 20:35.33 | Mikma | ckknight: oh i'd really love that for sure |
| 20:35.38 | Theondry | Yes. I love DUF. |
| 20:35.47 | Mikma | kick kick ban!!1 |
| 20:35.52 | Mikma | me too please |
| 20:35.55 | Tekcub | randomly hook a titan function on load and throw a confusing error when it's called |
| 20:36.13 | Theondry | Mikma: as I said, if agUF can make unitframes like that, then I"d switch. |
| 20:36.13 | haste | nil or nil excpected, got nil |
| 20:36.22 | eternally777 | I think I'm going to be late to work, or I'm going to be wearing wet clothes, because they just got thrown in the drier 15 minutes ago :( |
| 20:36.23 | Mikma | i wan't to make hex'd messages in my addons :D |
| 20:36.37 | kergoth | that was fun |
| 20:36.43 | Mikma | Theondry: adapt + aguf = gg |
| 20:36.48 | ckknight | haste, hehe. |
| 20:36.55 | kergoth | i clicked on someone in friendsfu to whisper them, then hit escape, and now i dont get mouseover tooltips on 50% of all my fubar plugins |
| 20:37.15 | Mikma | ~hex noob |
| 20:37.15 | purl | noob is 6E 6F 6F 62 |
| 20:37.24 | Theondry | my non healer UI http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/Theondry/Pictures/Theondry_EvilSelfHealing_ZG_111705_.jpg |
| 20:37.28 | Tekcub | ~hex fuck you |
| 20:37.28 | purl | fuck you is 66 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 |
| 20:37.42 | Mikma | now, put that in .lua and then use lua's functions to dehex it and print it on screen hehe |
| 20:37.50 | vitamin-c | ~hex vitamin-c |
| 20:37.50 | purl | vitamin-c is 76 69 74 61 6D 69 6E 2D 63 |
| 20:38.36 | Theondry | wow... tha'ts an *old* ui. still using InfoBar. |
| 20:38.44 | Mikma | that way people would have a hard time on changing texts or so in .lua ;) |
| 20:40.02 | Mikma | would be really fun to get some crypting in wow hehe |
| 20:40.02 | CIA-11 | 03kaelten * r9109 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua: |
| 20:40.02 | CIA-11 | Ace2 - AceLocale-2.1 |
| 20:40.02 | CIA-11 | - Tweaks |
| 20:40.02 | CIA-11 | - Fixed a couple of silly typos |
| 20:40.02 | CIA-11 | - Trimmed some fat |
| 20:40.22 | Mikma | then make some crypted .lua and use some code there to do nasty stuff :D |
| 20:40.41 | haste | not really :p |
| 20:40.52 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9110 10TheLowDown/ (. Core.lua TheLowDown.toc): |
| 20:40.52 | CIA-11 | TheLowDown |
| 20:40.53 | CIA-11 | - TOC cleanup and other tweaks |
| 20:40.53 | Mikma | ckknight: why not just make FuBar block Titan completely? |
| 20:41.09 | Mikma | just make it official that FuBar will never allow Titan to be loaded ;) |
| 20:41.10 | ckknight | not FuBar, FuBarPlugin |
| 20:41.17 | Kaelten | I really think thats bad mojo. |
| 20:41.22 | hyperChipmunk | because he doesn't support titan plugins |
| 20:41.44 | Tekcub | I was just saying it'd be fun to fuck with titan users :) |
| 20:41.52 | Kaelten | I don't think its cool to intentially fuck with another addon. |
| 20:41.53 | haste | why would you use FuBar _and_ Titan? |
| 20:42.00 | hyperChipmunk | yo titan is SO fat |
| 20:42.02 | Kaelten | you probably wouldn't haste |
| 20:42.11 | Mikma | haste: because there's stupid users around who will propably do that |
| 20:42.13 | Kaelten | but someone might be using OneView and Titan |
| 20:42.13 | Tekcub | people might use say.. Titan and BigWigs |
| 20:42.23 | Kaelten | OneView has a fubarplugin in it |
| 20:42.36 | haste | ah yeah, the evil plugin |
| 20:42.41 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:42.42 | haste | that spawn minimap icons from hell :< |
| 20:42.46 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 20:42.48 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:42.54 | haste | forced me to install Fubar :p |
| 20:42.58 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 20:43.02 | haste | just to get them away from it |
| 20:43.11 | Tekcub | HerpesMod |
| 20:43.18 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:43.33 | Theondry | bbl |
| 20:43.37 | *** part/#wowace Theondry (i=user@ppp-70-248-85-160.dsl.elpstx.swbell.net) |
| 20:43.51 | Kaelten | so I take it my documentation was magnificent and I explained everything perfectly? |
| 20:43.52 | Kaelten | sweet |
| 20:44.07 | hyperChipmunk | something I've always wondered and never remembered to ask: |
| 20:44.32 | Kaelten | ? |
| 20:45.06 | hyperChipmunk | is it any better to do 'local foo, bar for (loop) do foo = this; bar = that end' than just 'for (loop) do local foo = this; local bar = that end' |
| 20:45.24 | ckknight | no, chip |
| 20:45.34 | Kaelten | na not really |
| 20:45.36 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: did you read this: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceLocale-2.1_API_Documentation? |
| 20:45.41 | JoshBorke | bye all :-) |
| 20:45.42 | *** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@ohm.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 20:46.21 | hyperChipmunk | not yet; I'm going to in a momen |
| 20:47.19 | ckknight | Kaelten, draw up any benchmarks yet? |
| 20:47.34 | Kaelten | oh I was waiting for you to finish your version |
| 20:48.15 | hyperChipmunk | did you go with returning a table, or passing the table as the first arg? |
| 20:48.55 | hyperChipmunk | I saw you had returned a table, which is what I originally did with AceTab, but was told to create the table myself and pass it |
| 20:48.55 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: huh? |
| 20:49.07 | hyperChipmunk | for the translation pairs |
| 20:49.22 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 20:49.24 | ckknight | okay, kael, lemme do it |
| 20:49.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:49.28 | hyperChipmunk | =\ |
| 20:50.56 | hyperChipmunk | i used to have 'wordlist = wlfunc()' to get a list of completion candidates |
| 20:51.29 | hyperChipmunk | i was told to change it to 'wordlist = {}; wlfunc(wordlist, args...) |
| 20:52.00 | hyperChipmunk | and the wlfunc would fill the table I gave it |
| 20:52.28 | hyperChipmunk | instead of expecting the wlfunc to return a table |
| 20:52.38 | Kaelten | lol I've already started ck |
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| 20:54.08 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.09 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.26 | hyperChipmunk | that sounds like my original 'wordlist = wlfunc()' |
| 20:54.28 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9111 10TheLowDown/Core.lua: |
| 20:54.28 | CIA-11 | TheLowDown |
| 20:54.28 | CIA-11 | - Typo! |
| 20:56.40 | ckknight | Kaelten, I meant lemme finish :-P |
| 20:56.45 | ckknight | sorry for misunderstanding |
| 20:56.58 | Kaelten | ah |
| 20:56.59 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:57.24 | Kaelten | ok well here is the benchmarks from AceLocale 2.1 |
| 20:57.25 | Kaelten | PROFILE: "AL-2.1 Table" took 6.47 seconds and 0 KiB (executed 1000000 times) |
| 20:57.25 | Kaelten | PROFILE: "AL-2.1 Table + i" took 8.06 seconds and 31250 KiB (executed 1000000 times) |
| 20:57.25 | Kaelten | PROFILE: "AL-2.1 Func + i" took 10.09 seconds and 31250 KiB (executed 1000000 times) |
| 20:57.27 | Kaelten | PROFILE: "AL-2.1 Func" took 7.68 seconds and 0 KiB (executed 1000000 times) |
| 20:57.51 | Kaelten | thats for 6million value lookups |
| 20:57.53 | grumpey | eya |
| 20:59.26 | Kaelten | kergoth: thats where I say my __call is more expensive :) |
| 20:59.33 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@Lf2b9.l.pppool.de) |
| 21:01.37 | ckknight | I'd say that 2.0's call is gonna be more expensive than 2.1's, cause it handles multi-tiering |
| 21:01.45 | ckknight | but most people wouldn't use that anyway |
| 21:03.10 | [NI]Machine | yay, finally a horde victory in av! now i feel much better |
| 21:03.30 | ckknight | good work |
| 21:03.49 | Laric | 2 seconds in 10^6 iterations isnt much loss though :P |
| 21:04.14 | Laric | percent it is lots but it is still small values |
| 21:04.34 | Laric | ain't exactly slow ;P |
| 21:04.55 | Tekcub | think I should categorize tekAutoRep as Quest? |
| 21:06.13 | Kaelten | ckknight: I decided to go ahead and bench the verison you pastebined |
| 21:06.19 | ckknight | k |
| 21:06.28 | Kaelten | I can redo it after as well |
| 21:08.13 | Kaelten | well good news the metatable stuff you did is equivilent with 2.1 |
| 21:08.19 | Kaelten | at least atm it is |
| 21:08.34 | ckknight | right |
| 21:08.38 | ckknight | which is what I was going for, |
| 21:08.51 | Rophy | ckknight: for Dewdrop-2.0, a big optionsTable vs a big function with AddLine()s, which one is better? |
| 21:09.04 | ckknight | if possible, use the options table. |
| 21:09.19 | Kaelten | I'm going back to test the original 2.0 to see how it did |
| 21:09.29 | Rophy | doesnt the function approach costs less memory? |
| 21:10.21 | Kaelten | well if you're only creating the table once its porbably not a major thing |
| 21:10.35 | Kaelten | for tables to be memory hogs you need literally thousands of items |
| 21:10.44 | Kaelten | or to be creating it often |
| 21:11.11 | Rophy | I was using function approach |
| 21:11.26 | Rophy | and it is 550 lines, costs about 35kB |
| 21:11.29 | ckknight | it's more about maintenance, actually |
| 21:11.43 | ckknight | also, the optionsTable is a standard that anyone can implement |
| 21:11.52 | Kaelten | rophy not, sure, only thing I could say is try both see which is better |
| 21:11.57 | ckknight | that's why it can translate between AceConsole and Dewdrop |
| 21:12.04 | Rophy | I'd like to but... |
| 21:12.14 | ckknight | if you use the options table, it'll do a lot for you |
| 21:12.20 | Kaelten | you might be suprised how much more condensed the options table is over the code |
| 21:12.24 | Rophy | I dont even dare to think about converting that giant function |
| 21:12.48 | Kaelten | well ckknight I've ran the tests on everything I've got |
| 21:12.53 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:13.32 | Kaelten | on this particular test the table lookups where about equivilent on both memory and speed |
| 21:14.05 | Kaelten | 2.1's function lookups are much faster about half |
| 21:14.10 | Kaelten | and both versions of the 2.0's function lookups are about equal |
| 21:14.13 | ckknight | because 2.0 supports multitiering |
| 21:14.24 | oxman | Rophy I love your work with recap (recap and parserlib) |
| 21:14.37 | Rophy | no bug ? |
| 21:14.40 | oxman | Rophy, could you add the sync support for recap ? (http://www.curse-gaming.com/fr/wow/addons-3550-1-recap-sync.html) |
| 21:14.41 | Rophy | I dont use it actually :p |
| 21:14.42 | ckknight | if it didn't, I could make it faster than yours, technically. |
| 21:14.43 | Kaelten | ya, actually the function lookup on one set of tests was more than twice as fast in 2.1 |
| 21:14.45 | oxman | not try yet |
| 21:14.49 | ckknight | or at least as fast. |
| 21:14.52 | oxman | i've see this version since 5mn :D |
| 21:15.07 | Kaelten | ya but we don't want to take that out of 2.0 since that could break addons. |
| 21:15.17 | Rophy | that link says it's discontinued. |
| 21:15.36 | ckknight | Kaelten, it only breaks addons if addons implement it |
| 21:15.38 | oxman | if you make the sync support Rophy i will look for and fix eventual bug about recap/parserlib |
| 21:15.43 | ckknight | so, as a quick test, time to grep trunk. |
| 21:15.52 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:15.56 | oxman | Rophy but you can made a sync support :) |
| 21:16.13 | Kaelten | be back in a bit guys |
| 21:16.18 | Kaelten | I need to run for a few mins. |
| 21:16.19 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (n=Cartas@host86-134-20-92.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:16.23 | Rophy | I may add its part into my Recap version, if it is complete |
| 21:16.30 | ckknight | cya, Kael |
| 21:16.33 | Rophy | but from that page's description, looks like its not? |
| 21:16.38 | oxman | or make your sync support Rophy :) |
| 21:16.47 | Rophy | no I'm not doing that, too much effort :p |
| 21:16.48 | Kaelten | I don't see the point in continuing the 2.0 line now though, at least any mroe than you've already done. |
| 21:16.48 | oxman | i hate hate hate make sync function |
| 21:16.52 | oxman | it's why i ask to you :) |
| 21:17.05 | Rophy | me too :p |
| 21:17.09 | oxman | roh :( |
| 21:17.12 | oxman | ckknight ? We need you |
| 21:17.13 | oxman | ;D |
| 21:17.18 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 21:17.23 | Rophy | I'm not even using the Recap myself :\ |
| 21:17.26 | oxman | could you add a sync support for recap/parserlib ? |
| 21:17.33 | ckknight | Kaelten, because I don't see a point in the 2.1 line _at all_ |
| 21:17.40 | ckknight | the point was for speed increases |
| 21:17.42 | oxman | but recap+sync is better than swstats |
| 21:17.44 | ckknight | but I already got that |
| 21:17.47 | ckknight | so what's the point, now? |
| 21:18.08 | Rophy | if I am to add sync support. |
| 21:18.13 | Kaelten | so that you don't run the risk of breaking any addons that might use features unique to 2.0 |
| 21:18.17 | Rophy | I'll add it to KombatStats and kick everyone away :p |
| 21:18.31 | oxman | url of kombatstats ? |
| 21:18.46 | Rophy | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4670 |
| 21:18.50 | oxman | then the problem for me with sync function, it's the algorythm, if you give me the algorythm i can try to do a sync support |
| 21:18.53 | oxman | thanks |
| 21:18.54 | ckknight | Kaelten, thing is, I already got 2.0 to a fast point that has no backwards incompatibility |
| 21:18.57 | ckknight | so where's the issue? |
| 21:19.24 | oxman | it's nice Rophy :) |
| 21:19.25 | Kaelten | 2.1 is still faster and cleaner overall if you wantt o do anything more complicated than L.bob |
| 21:19.41 | Kaelten | also it offers the dynamic locales. |
| 21:19.49 | oxman | but kombatstats with sync isn't like recap ;) |
| 21:19.52 | oxman | two job for two addons :) |
| 21:19.59 | Kaelten | which would require some hacking to support in 2.0 |
| 21:20.05 | ckknight | I don't see the point in dynamic locales, I don't see how it's cleaner, and 2.0 is just as fast now. |
| 21:20.08 | Rophy | KombatStats records more info than Recap actually. |
| 21:20.13 | Rophy | just not as pretty as Recap :p |
| 21:20.20 | oxman | so make it :) |
| 21:20.23 | oxman | no problem for me |
| 21:20.27 | ckknight | and actually, 2.0 could easily support dynamic locales if I so chose |
| 21:20.29 | oxman | with sync :p |
| 21:20.35 | Rophy | no, I'm not adding sync support, too much effort : |
| 21:20.37 | Kaelten | we'll talk about this later.... |
| 21:20.38 | ckknight | just don't see the point |
| 21:20.39 | Rophy | may be when I have time |
| 21:20.41 | Kaelten | bbl |
| 21:20.46 | ckknight | k |
| 21:20.50 | oxman | do you know the algo for a sync support for a stats addon ? |
| 21:21.37 | Rophy | well, i'd guess something like reporting your own data periodically. |
| 21:22.19 | oxman | hum only that ? |
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| 21:23.16 | Rophy | and do something when there are conflicts :p |
| 21:23.24 | oxman | it's the problem ;D |
| 21:23.36 | oxman | but witch type of conflict ? |
| 21:24.17 | Rophy | you'll know when you actually make it, I dun want to imagine everything :p |
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| 21:25.12 | oxman | ah ah |
| 21:27.14 | ckknight | okay, apparently ArcHud uses the multi-tiered syntax |
| 21:27.17 | *** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 21:27.28 | oxman | multi-tiered ? :D |
| 21:27.37 | ckknight | L("hey", "guy") |
| 21:27.40 | ckknight | gets L.hey.guy |
| 21:28.05 | oxman | ah |
| 21:28.08 | Rophy | I'd like to use that feature too. |
| 21:28.25 | oxman | I don't know see the interest |
| 21:28.40 | oxman | -know |
| 21:28.40 | oxman | :D |
| 21:28.43 | oxman | don't / can't |
| 21:28.46 | oxman | pff boring english |
| 21:28.47 | oxman | :D |
| 21:28.55 | ckknight | Rophy, well, now, you should just use L.hey.guy |
| 21:28.56 | ckknight | hehe |
| 21:29.01 | ckknight | L["hey"]["guy"] |
| 21:29.03 | ckknight | or however you want. |
| 21:29.35 | ckknight | okay, I sped up __call immensely. |
| 21:29.41 | Rophy | well but if finally you decided to remove multi-tier support then I cant do that. |
| 21:29.43 | ckknight | I want to get Kael's benchmark test. |
| 21:29.46 | ckknight | Rophy, I won't |
| 21:29.48 | ckknight | don't worry. |
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| 21:30.01 | Rophy | hmm |
| 21:30.44 | oxman | first test (in french) : recap ok |
| 21:31.29 | oxman | still ok :p |
| 21:31.47 | ckknight | woot, it works. |
| 21:32.42 | ckknight | okay, I'm gonna commit. |
| 21:32.47 | ckknight | let's hope hell doesn't break loose. |
| 21:33.03 | oxman | ckknight i need your brain ;p |
| 21:33.13 | ckknight | get your own brain |
| 21:33.15 | oxman | tell me the rigth way to make a proper sync stats function |
| 21:33.17 | ckknight | face! |
| 21:33.20 | oxman | :p |
| 21:33.24 | ckknight | sync stats? |
| 21:33.26 | oxman | yep |
| 21:33.27 | ckknight | sync with what? |
| 21:33.31 | oxman | like swstats, recap |
| 21:33.33 | oxman | other player |
| 21:33.34 | oxman | :) |
| 21:33.42 | ckknight | inter-player comm? |
| 21:33.45 | oxman | yep |
| 21:33.48 | Rophy | he means data syncing |
| 21:33.49 | ckknight | use AceComm |
| 21:33.55 | Rophy | damagemeters |
| 21:34.03 | oxman | and it's magic with AceComm ? |
| 21:34.07 | oxman | Nothing to do ? |
| 21:34.09 | ckknight | everything is magic. |
| 21:34.14 | oxman | ah ah :p |
| 21:34.21 | ckknight | well, just don't observe it. |
| 21:34.24 | oxman | no problem of synch ? |
| 21:34.27 | ckknight | cause if you do, it'll change |
| 21:34.35 | ckknight | and it won't look like magic |
| 21:34.40 | Rophy | lol |
| 21:34.43 | oxman | so you will help me or not ? ;p |
| 21:34.50 | haste | soon done! |
| 21:34.53 | oxman | and i'm magician in my life :) |
| 21:34.55 | ckknight | probably not, but I can give helpful hints along the way. |
| 21:34.56 | haste | then Iceroth will become happy! |
| 21:35.00 | oxman | (a real, hum a false, but real :p) |
| 21:35.03 | Rophy | oxman I'd suggest you go ahead and try |
| 21:35.15 | oxman | but i hate that Rophy :D |
| 21:35.15 | Rophy | and come back when you got some problems which you dunno what to o |
| 21:35.22 | oxman | i've plan some tests on paper for a sync system |
| 21:35.25 | oxman | is very boring :') |
| 21:35.34 | Rophy | but we can't help if you dun even know what are the problems :p |
| 21:35.45 | oxman | the problem is to sync data between players ;D |
| 21:35.48 | oxman | no solve it |
| 21:35.49 | oxman | thanks |
| 21:35.50 | oxman | :DD |
| 21:35.53 | oxman | no/now |
| 21:36.14 | oxman | i've look some code, like swstats etc, it's very dirty :D |
| 21:36.16 | Rophy | and I said, just try broadcasting your data once a while :p |
| 21:36.45 | oxman | then if you come along the fight |
| 21:36.55 | oxman | who send the full stats to this player ? |
| 21:37.14 | Laric | elected leader? |
| 21:37.24 | oxman | and if leader bug too ? |
| 21:37.32 | oxman | and now, it become tedious |
| 21:37.33 | oxman | :D |
| 21:37.38 | Nickenyfiken | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14601720&postId=145204080&sid=1#4 |
| 21:37.39 | Nickenyfiken | humor |
| 21:37.45 | Rophy | then you have to find out that he bugs :p |
| 21:38.00 | oxman | yep with a timeout, or something like that |
| 21:38.08 | oxman | and all that become tedious :D |
| 21:38.39 | oxman | why nobody made a good sync library ? |
| 21:38.42 | Rophy | well looks like you dun want to ask 'how to sync', you want to ask someone to do it for you :p |
| 21:38.47 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9112 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: |
| 21:38.47 | CIA-11 | AceLocale - major optimizations. Fully backwards compatible. |
| 21:38.47 | CIA-11 | Now you should use L["Alpha"] instead of L"Alpha", for speed-purposes. |
| 21:38.47 | oxman | (don't tell me acecomm, it don't do that :p) |
| 21:38.48 | Rophy | swstats is a good one. |
| 21:38.50 | ckknight | my __call for AceLocale is just return self[key] basically, now |
| 21:38.53 | ckknight | so it's damn efficient |
| 21:38.56 | oxman | it's not a library :) |
| 21:39.08 | Rophy | hmm data sync library? |
| 21:39.12 | oxman | yep |
| 21:39.24 | oxman | you have made a good library (parserlib) |
| 21:39.31 | oxman | now right synclib |
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| 21:39.33 | oxman | write |
| 21:39.33 | oxman | :D |
| 21:39.42 | ckknight | AceComm sends messages |
| 21:39.46 | ckknight | but really efficiently |
| 21:39.47 | ckknight | that's all. |
| 21:39.57 | Theondry | Why is L["stuff"] going to be faster than L"stuff"? |
| 21:39.59 | oxman | i know, so it's not a library to do a sync data |
| 21:40.05 | Rophy | he wants something like.... you have a table |
| 21:40.11 | Rophy | and everyone can sync that table. |
| 21:40.19 | ckknight | Theondry, it's a lua speed hack, baically L"stuff" turns into L["stuff"], but it's an extra function call |
| 21:40.21 | Rophy | that may be useful |
| 21:40.24 | oxman | yep something like that :) |
| 21:40.29 | oxman | very useful i think |
| 21:40.30 | ckknight | and I mean, that's a few microseconds that you will _never_ get back. |
| 21:40.36 | ckknight | and that makes baby Jesus cry. |
| 21:41.01 | oxman | lots of addon may can use it |
| 21:41.23 | Rophy | sounds cool, but I have no idea how to do that efficiently |
| 21:41.30 | Rophy | so I can't be the one writing it :) |
| 21:41.32 | oxman | you will, you will |
| 21:41.40 | oxman | take paper, i can help you to find the "algo" |
| 21:41.50 | oxman | we can work the both on the "algo" |
| 21:41.56 | ckknight | algorithm? |
| 21:41.58 | oxman | but you code the lib, because i don't make nice code :) |
| 21:42.00 | oxman | yep |
| 21:42.01 | Rophy | since you're so interested in it, I'm sure you'll do better than me. |
| 21:42.09 | Theondry | So write crappy code and clean it up later. |
| 21:42.15 | haste | Iceroth: test it now |
| 21:42.16 | CIA-11 | 03otravi * r9113 10oCD/ (core.lua hooks.lua oCD.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:42.16 | CIA-11 | oCD: |
| 21:42.16 | CIA-11 | - Now uses a whitelist, this should kill of incorrect cooldowns. |
| 21:42.16 | CIA-11 | - Removed Bartender2 support. |
| 21:42.16 | CIA-11 | - Redid Blizzard support. |
| 21:42.17 | CIA-11 | - Redid Bongos support. |
| 21:42.19 | CIA-11 | - Removed spellbook support. |
| 21:42.21 | Rophy | if you can come up with some ideas (algorithms?) |
| 21:42.30 | Rophy | post it on the forum and someone might implement it. |
| 21:42.34 | haste | hello typo |
| 21:42.35 | Rophy | like that BattleChat :p |
| 21:42.36 | oxman | "might" |
| 21:42.37 | oxman | :D |
| 21:42.48 | oxman | so we forget synclib, go in trashbin :p |
| 21:43.03 | Rophy | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1945.0.html |
| 21:43.07 | Iceroth | haste, will do tomorrow, raiding naxx atm |
| 21:43.11 | Rophy | see that Bant draw a picture |
| 21:43.23 | Rophy | then everyone is doing the job for him :p |
| 21:43.51 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.52 | oxman | :D |
| 21:43.59 | oxman | so make a topic, and everyone will do the job for you :p |
| 21:44.08 | Rophy | go ahead and make it |
| 21:44.13 | Rophy | I'm not the one wanting a synclib :p |
| 21:44.22 | oxman | i wait nothing |
| 21:44.23 | oxman | :) |
| 21:44.37 | oxman | when I really want something, I make it :D |
| 21:45.23 | Tain | Me too. Unless it's hard. |
| 21:45.28 | Tain | Then I decide I don't really want it. |
| 21:45.29 | nekoh | tt |
| 21:45.35 | oxman | lol |
| 21:45.36 | oxman | :p |
| 21:45.43 | oxman | yep sometimes me too Tain :) |
| 21:45.48 | ckknight | I made AceComm with no real intention to use it myself |
| 21:45.57 | oxman | so made AceSync |
| 21:45.57 | oxman | ;) |
| 21:46.21 | ckknight | no, I don't know the logistics |
| 21:46.31 | ckknight | also, I got too much on my plate already |
| 21:46.49 | oxman | buy two hands :p |
| 21:47.00 | Rophy | oxman go figure out some really efficient algorithm to sync a table, then i'm sure someone will be interested in implementing it. |
| 21:47.14 | Rophy | I have no idea how so I can't really help you here. |
| 21:47.16 | oxman | but i hate made algorithm :( |
| 21:47.37 | oxman | in fact, maybe in french i can, maybe, but in english, hard to explain, boring :| |
| 21:47.41 | ckknight | hell. AceLibrary is conflicting with the new AceLocale deal |
| 21:47.48 | oxman | nice :D |
| 21:48.14 | oxman | in fact the most important problem Rophy |
| 21:48.19 | oxman | it's to have a "base time" |
| 21:48.23 | oxman | everyone have the same time |
| 21:48.28 | oxman | but with lag etc |
| 21:48.30 | oxman | :/ |
| 21:48.34 | CIA-11 | 03kyahx * r9114 10oRA/oRA_Core.lua: oRA_Core: Hopefully fixed the 'not scanning messages on first join' bug. |
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| 21:49.07 | oxman | because you need to know which data is new and which is old |
| 21:49.16 | oxman | to sync or not |
| 21:49.31 | CIA-11 | 03kyahx * r9115 10oRA_MainTank/oRA_MainTank.lua: oRA_MainTank: No longer sends SET2 commands for tanks above 5, as CTRA no longer does either. |
| 21:49.33 | oxman | and it's impossible to know that |
| 21:49.47 | oxman | so i think it's "impossible" to make a generic synclib |
| 21:50.10 | Rophy | hmm, too bad then. |
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| 21:50.27 | ckknight | brb, gotta reset the internets |
| 21:50.32 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9116 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: Ace2 - AceLibrary - changed t[recurse] = true to rawset(t, recurse, true) |
| 21:51.05 | oxman | I think we've two types of sync |
| 21:51.08 | ckknight | nvm, works now |
| 21:51.28 | oxman | 1. sync like "global array", everyone can edit it, and everyone must see the changes of everyone |
| 21:51.35 | Rophy | something wrong ith AceLibrary? |
| 21:51.40 | Rophy | with* |
| 21:51.40 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9117 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: AceLocale - altered __newindex thingy. |
| 21:51.43 | ckknight | Rophy, well, it's fine now. |
| 21:51.51 | oxman | 2. sync like "stats", and here, it's very hard too explain :( |
| 21:52.13 | oxman | I don't know really how define the sync "stats" |
| 21:53.13 | Rophy | well... a simple idea is that |
| 21:53.26 | Rophy | you have two tables with the same indexes. |
| 21:53.34 | Rophy | so you want to sync table t |
| 21:53.41 | Rophy | you'll need another table t2 |
| 21:54.01 | Rophy | which marks each of the elements in t with a flag: dirty or not |
| 21:54.24 | Rophy | then you send the two tables to the library, the library handles the syncing |
| 21:54.26 | Rophy | something like that |
| 21:54.40 | oxman | impossible |
| 21:54.45 | oxman | lots of ressource for sync |
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| 21:56.05 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9118 10tekAutoRep/ (. Core.lua tekAutoRep.toc): |
| 21:56.05 | CIA-11 | tekAutoRep - Initial Submission |
| 21:56.05 | CIA-11 | - Automatically track the last faction you gained reputation with |
| 21:56.06 | CIA-11 | - Also auto-colapses the "Inactive" group on loadup |
| 21:56.10 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 21:56.27 | oxman | hum |
| 21:56.37 | oxman | an easy way to sync a player come during a fight : |
| 21:56.51 | oxman | the player look the sync "channel" |
| 21:56.56 | oxman | get randomly some one |
| 21:57.00 | oxman | and ask "get me the full stats" |
| 21:57.17 | oxman | if no answer in x seconds, he asks to an other player |
| 21:57.30 | oxman | then, each player sends into the sync "channel" only HIS events |
| 21:57.48 | Rophy | that's what KTM is doing (everyone send own stats) |
| 21:58.00 | Rophy | and that requires everyone to install the addon. |
| 21:58.04 | oxman | KTM is a big shit with the sync |
| 21:58.13 | oxman | if you look the sync data, OMFG ! |
| 21:58.18 | oxman | lots lots lots of data |
| 21:58.28 | oxman | it's true Rophy, it's the problem :) |
| 21:58.38 | ckknight | woot! |
| 21:58.40 | ckknight | AceLocale works! |
| 21:58.42 | oxman | I try to find a solution |
| 21:58.44 | oxman | nice :) |
| 21:58.45 | ckknight | (2.0) |
| 21:58.53 | ckknight | I need benchmarks for Kael's |
| 21:58.56 | sbu | oxman: hmm - ktm alternative? :p |
| 21:58.56 | ckknight | or his benchmark process |
| 21:59.03 | sbu | aced? :p |
| 21:59.06 | oxman | I hate ktm, so... |
| 21:59.06 | oxman | :m |
| 21:59.17 | Iceroth | haste, oCD seems to work perfectly :) |
| 21:59.30 | Rophy | I hate ktm too but there isnt an alternative |
| 21:59.35 | Rophy | oxman go make one :) |
| 21:59.38 | haste | Iceroth: actually not :p |
| 21:59.39 | oxman | we don't need one |
| 21:59.39 | oxman | :) |
| 21:59.44 | ckknight | Babble and all that still works :-) |
| 21:59.48 | CIA-11 | 03otravi * r9119 10oCD/hooks.lua: oCD - wups, forgot a bar. |
| 21:59.49 | haste | now it should however |
| 21:59.51 | sbu | oxman: thats a yes? ;o |
| 21:59.54 | Rophy | I need one when my raid leader requires me to install one. |
| 22:00.04 | oxman | thats a no because we don't need a ktm or a ktm like |
| 22:00.08 | oxman | it's useles |
| 22:00.13 | oxman | in one word : L2P |
| 22:00.25 | Rophy | say that to my raid leader :) |
| 22:00.26 | sbu | uhm... its 3 words ;p |
| 22:00.30 | oxman | Rophy then change your leader ;p |
| 22:00.36 | oxman | do you see a space sbu ? :p |
| 22:00.43 | sbu | yap ;p |
| 22:01.10 | oxman | then, any solution to send data of other players in the sync channel ? |
| 22:01.34 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9120 10tekAutoRep/ (. Core.lua Libs/ tekAutoRep.toc): |
| 22:01.34 | CIA-11 | tekAutoRep |
| 22:01.34 | CIA-11 | - svn external, etc |
| 22:01.54 | Kyahx | AutoRep eh? |
| 22:01.59 | Mikma | RAWR! ChatJustify makes itemlinks worthless |
| 22:02.07 | packetlss | who should i speak to/mail in order to request space on the svn? |
| 22:02.52 | Tuplad | packetlss: cladhaire@gmail.com |
| 22:03.02 | packetlss | Tuplad: thx |
| 22:03.09 | Tuplad | fo' sho' foo' |
| 22:03.40 | haste | hrmf |
| 22:03.45 | Tuplad | So what's AutoRep about ? |
| 22:03.53 | oxman | so... how you can send data of other ? :p |
| 22:03.54 | haste | my wow just went emo :< |
| 22:03.59 | Tuplad | haste ! haste ! |
| 22:04.20 | Mikma | haste: ctrl+a d |
| 22:04.24 | Zicon | haste: Give it a bar of chocolate and a razor blade. |
| 22:04.25 | sbu | oxman: hm - whats the deal with ktm? lots of useless information, ...? |
| 22:04.28 | haste | Mikma: no need ;p |
| 22:04.33 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9121 10tekAutoRep/Core.lua: |
| 22:04.33 | CIA-11 | tekAutoRep |
| 22:04.33 | CIA-11 | - Switched auto-collapse to AceEvent_FullyInitialized so that it actually works |
| 22:04.39 | haste | Mikma: I did it the lazyway |
| 22:04.42 | oxman | i think sbu :) |
| 22:05.52 | sbu | this could as well explain all those lags (which are getting more every time i think ;o) |
| 22:06.01 | oxman | maybe |
| 22:06.08 | oxman | look the sync channel of ktm |
| 22:06.10 | oxman | it's awfull. |
| 22:06.17 | haste | I know |
| 22:06.22 | Kyahx | Why does it send 0s? |
| 22:06.22 | oxman | and with the new system for sync we can't avoid that :'((( |
| 22:06.23 | haste | it spams every 1 sec |
| 22:06.24 | Mikma | haste: /ignore? |
| 22:06.28 | oxman | without ktm you're spammed by ktm :'( |
| 22:06.36 | haste | Mikma: you win five internets |
| 22:06.44 | Mikma | yay! |
| 22:07.37 | Rophy | . /ignore works for addon message or not? |
| 22:07.43 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9122 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - more fixes |
| 22:07.45 | oxman | i hope :) |
| 22:07.50 | oxman | but it's not very well |
| 22:07.54 | oxman | i can't ignore all my raid |
| 22:07.54 | oxman | :p |
| 22:08.00 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9123 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: AceLocale - now errors if you index a non-existent key. |
| 22:08.05 | sbu | uhm ;o |
| 22:08.15 | Tuplad | Why not oxman :o |
| 22:08.16 | Kyahx | maybe someone should go yell at the ktm guy? |
| 22:08.22 | Tuplad | Eternal silence |
| 22:08.37 | Kyahx | oxman: that's what ventrilo is for, important communication :P |
| 22:08.38 | oxman | Kyahx you have a good weight to do that :) |
| 22:09.04 | Kyahx | psh, I'll go where its posted and complain |
| 22:09.10 | Kyahx | I not e-scared of anyone |
| 22:09.16 | sbu | heh and would be nice for bidding on items |
| 22:09.24 | Tuplad | Elkano got owned by Lain ? |
| 22:09.55 | oxman | ok thanks Kyahx :) |
| 22:10.04 | Rophy | post what, ktm sucks? |
| 22:10.12 | oxman | in more words |
| 22:10.13 | oxman | ;p |
| 22:10.20 | Kyahx | no, thats its spammy |
| 22:10.21 | sbu | and should be ace2ed ;p |
| 22:10.23 | Kyahx | and not very respectiful of bandwith limits |
| 22:10.37 | Kyahx | that wont stop it from being obnoxious |
| 22:10.39 | Rophy | also, asks him to use ParserLib :p |
| 22:10.41 | oxman | it's a real problem now with the new system |
| 22:11.20 | oxman | i hate this new system for that |
| 22:11.32 | Kyahx | well, you have less banter from other channels |
| 22:11.33 | oxman | we'll spammed a lots with various addon without use it :/ |
| 22:11.35 | Kyahx | so its partially ballanced... |
| 22:11.40 | sbu | mh, but is there a way to do that more efficient? i dont know... |
| 22:11.50 | oxman | no because i don't use these addon that send lots of stupid data =p |
| 22:11.57 | sbu | if you want ~realtime stats that would be impossible!? |
| 22:11.57 | Kyahx | lol |
| 22:12.00 | oxman | register prefix into the serveur |
| 22:12.15 | oxman | and only get message according to the register prefix |
| 22:12.23 | Rophy | sbu i think ktm is spamming even when you're doing nothing. |
| 22:12.31 | Kyahx | Thats the problem taht I see |
| 22:12.37 | Kyahx | it spams in combat, ok, stuff is changing |
| 22:12.44 | Kyahx | but its spamming 0 every second even when people are afk |
| 22:12.47 | Kyahx | doing fucking nothing |
| 22:12.55 | Rophy | join a raid, join the channel, then disable ktm |
| 22:13.04 | Rophy | and you see everyone keep reporting that their threat are 0 :p |
| 22:13.04 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl) |
| 22:13.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 22:13.27 | oxman | and i believe the other data are dirty too |
| 22:13.28 | Kyahx | where is the main place he posts it, Curse? |
| 22:13.33 | Rophy | yup |
| 22:14.09 | haste | glad I have so much power over the memebers of the guild |
| 22:14.23 | haste | or we would be using the damn threat meter :p |
| 22:14.37 | Rophy | --> you will no longer "spam" 8 byte messages every 10 seconds when out of combat. |
| 22:14.38 | Kyahx | I prefer to tell people L2P |
| 22:14.41 | Mikma | Neronix`out: code the BattleChat man! |
| 22:14.41 | CIA-11 | 03tuplad * r9124 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt - Small fix on the totems |
| 22:14.45 | Rophy | Saw this in the newest comment in KTM website |
| 22:14.52 | oxman | +1 Kyahx |
| 22:15.00 | oxman | manage your aggro is an important part of gameplay |
| 22:15.06 | Rophy | so ktm author is removing that spam |
| 22:15.07 | oxman | you break that with ktm, i hate ktm for that |
| 22:15.21 | Rophy | yeah, ktm makes the game easy |
| 22:15.22 | haste | Kyahx: good we agree |
| 22:15.38 | Rophy | but that's UI's fault |
| 22:15.51 | haste | when people asked me to make a aggro alert add on before |
| 22:15.55 | haste | I always replied with Learn to play |
| 22:16.15 | Rophy | lots of UI makes the game "easier" |
| 22:16.16 | Tuplad | haste: you're right, tbfh |
| 22:16.21 | Rophy | so I see nothing wrong with a threat meter |
| 22:16.28 | oxman | but KTM throught an important thing... |
| 22:16.38 | Rophy | spell alert too |
| 22:16.44 | oxman | yep too. |
| 22:16.45 | oxman | hate too. |
| 22:16.46 | oxman | :D |
| 22:16.58 | oxman | it's why i love Lineage 2 |
| 22:16.58 | oxman | =') |
| 22:17.00 | Tuplad | I think, if you get aggro, you'll die anyway |
| 22:17.00 | Rophy | then blame Blizzard for letting us create such adons |
| 22:17.01 | oxman | no addon :p |
| 22:17.22 | Kyahx | Well, creating such addons will just cause blizzard to modify their threat system |
| 22:17.30 | Kyahx | like what decursive did to cleansing |
| 22:17.52 | Rophy | I imagine may be in an expansion.... |
| 22:18.05 | Rophy | there will be 'hardcore' mode where you can only use the default UI, lol |
| 22:18.07 | oxman | in bc ktm will be integrated ;) |
| 22:18.30 | oxman | we'll have a "limited dps" mode |
| 22:18.31 | Rophy | you gets better drop when you use only default UI, something like that :p |
| 22:18.36 | Kyahx | no, they'll make some crazy boss that takes a random persons aggro and replaces it with the main tank or something |
| 22:18.38 | oxman | when you switch in this mode it's IMPOSSIBLE to get the aggro |
| 22:18.51 | oxman | you're always under the aggro limit (few %) |
| 22:18.53 | oxman | :p |
| 22:18.55 | Rophy | for now they'r adjusting the difficulty with the UIs |
| 22:19.40 | Kyahx | actually, they could stop KLH if they wanted to to an extent |
| 22:19.47 | CIA-11 | 03grimwald * r9125 10BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_NefCount.toc: |
| 22:19.47 | CIA-11 | BigWigs_NefCount: |
| 22:19.47 | CIA-11 | * no probs found in 1.12 today at Nef - updated toc |
| 22:19.50 | Kyahx | They could blacklist the prefix, and tell them to stop updateing their mod |
| 22:19.51 | oxman | how they can stop klh ? |
| 22:19.56 | oxman | lol |
| 22:19.57 | Mikk | Pffff |
| 22:20.00 | oxman | change the prefix take one day |
| 22:20.01 | oxman | ;p |
| 22:20.02 | Kyahx | if the KTM team changes the prefix, then tehy blacklist the new prefix |
| 22:20.03 | oxman | one hour |
| 22:20.05 | oxman | one minute |
| 22:20.06 | oxman | one second |
| 22:20.07 | oxman | :) |
| 22:20.09 | Rophy | that doesn't really make sense |
| 22:20.10 | Kyahx | lol |
| 22:20.15 | Kyahx | They could try!! |
| 22:20.23 | Rophy | just remove the combat log events |
| 22:20.23 | Mikk | And if the KTM team puts up a special download page that lets people download with random prefixes? |
| 22:20.26 | oxman | do you really think they will try that ? |
| 22:20.27 | oxman | lol |
| 22:20.29 | Rophy | then everything are gone :p |
| 22:20.34 | oxman | ah ah Mikk ;p |
| 22:20.50 | Rophy | remove the CHAT_MSG_COMBAT events |
| 22:20.58 | Mikk | it's as hard as type foo.lua | sed s/KTM/randomstringhere/g |
| 22:21.04 | oxman | or KTM use the ctra prefix |
| 22:21.04 | Kyahx | secret change in the next patch: if the game detets you sending addon messages with the KTM prefix your toon does double aggro |
| 22:21.06 | oxman | then ctra ban |
| 22:21.07 | Kyahx | lol |
| 22:21.07 | oxman | ah ah ah :p |
| 22:21.44 | Kyahx | or give all spells a 5% lean each way on the hard numbers they generate? |
| 22:22.06 | Rophy | if the whole raid killed nefarian with default UI, secret phat lewt drops. |
| 22:22.08 | oxman | Do you have already think to make a virus addon ? :p |
| 22:22.10 | oxman | Me already |
| 22:22.14 | oxman | like delay the cast of a spell :D |
| 22:22.32 | oxman | or cast an other spell :p |
| 22:22.37 | oxman | random change the spells in actionbar |
| 22:22.37 | oxman | :p |
| 22:22.46 | oxman | move the unitframe when you want click it |
| 22:22.46 | oxman | lol |
| 22:22.56 | Theondry | Just don't heal people that depend on threatmeters to manage agro. That's what my raids do. We laugh when he begs us to set the boss for a fight, or set it, and then watch him die anyway. |
| 22:23.00 | oxman | change the rank of a spell |
| 22:23.05 | oxman | always replace by rank 1 :p |
| 22:23.17 | Kyahx | haha, I wrote a mod to spam this annoying warrior in my guild when he talks, but made it so that if he installs it, it spamms himself to the point of getting disconnected |
| 22:23.36 | Kyahx | he tried to isntall it to counter us spamming him, and just kicked himself offline over and over |
| 22:23.50 | Tekcub | lol |
| 22:23.56 | Rophy | going bed, good night. |
| 22:24.00 | oxman | :p |
| 22:24.01 | Kyahx | g'night Rophy |
| 22:24.04 | oxman | good night Rophy |
| 22:24.37 | Kyahx | I did however think about makeing a modthat would allow you to send script commands and tehy execute on the users side. |
| 22:24.47 | oxman | ah ah ah :D |
| 22:24.48 | Kyahx | for my stupid guildies who dont know how to fix things, I could just do it for them and be done |
| 22:25.01 | oxman | for duel :DD |
| 22:25.14 | Tuplad | Kyahx: :O |
| 22:25.19 | Tuplad | Kyahx: that's possible ? |
| 22:25.24 | oxman | if induel, if targetname == Kyahx rang = rang1 |
| 22:25.25 | oxman | :D |
| 22:25.29 | Tuplad | Kyahx: amagad if it will be >:) |
| 22:25.36 | oxman | if they install your addon everything is possible |
| 22:25.36 | oxman | ;p |
| 22:25.41 | Kyahx | as long as the script dosent reqire hardware input, yes |
| 22:25.42 | Tuplad | yea |
| 22:25.44 | CIA-11 | 03theondry * r9126 10SnaFu/SnaFu.lua: SnaFu: 1.6 sync |
| 22:25.47 | Tuplad | just implent Kyahx's addon in your |
| 22:25.54 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.58 | oxman | that will be very nice i believe |
| 22:25.58 | oxman | :D |
| 22:26.04 | Tuplad | rang ? |
| 22:26.11 | oxman | and i think they will never understand why he doesn't do lots of damage |
| 22:26.13 | oxman | rank sorry |
| 22:26.14 | Kyahx | I think he means rank, of spells :P |
| 22:26.16 | oxman | rang is french :) |
| 22:26.19 | Kyahx | yea |
| 22:26.33 | Kyahx | oh god...that would be classic to annoy ramthis... |
| 22:26.36 | oxman | "WTF !! My eviscerate do 100 dmg !!" |
| 22:26.36 | oxman | :D |
| 22:26.40 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9127 10BigWigs/ (21 files in 8 dirs): |
| 22:26.40 | CIA-11 | BigWigs |
| 22:26.40 | CIA-11 | - Applied diff from filion to fix deDE strings |
| 22:26.40 | CIA-11 | - Closes: #234 --- http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=234 |
| 22:26.41 | Kyahx | haha! |
| 22:26.58 | oxman | "Im uber.3 |
| 22:26.59 | Tuplad | :O |
| 22:26.59 | oxman | "Im uber." |
| 22:27.04 | oxman | "Yeah yeah, lets do an other duel" |
| 22:27.06 | oxman | :p |
| 22:27.20 | Tuplad | *notices addon* |
| 22:27.24 | Kyahx | hmmm, I wonder how effetive a remote script mod would be... |
| 22:27.29 | Tuplad | *sends something back*, gg |
| 22:27.30 | oxman | a trojan |
| 22:27.36 | Kyahx | obviously give the end user control over who they trust scripts from |
| 22:27.37 | oxman | you write /nextspell Blabla |
| 22:27.45 | oxman | then it send by SendAddonMessage whisper |
| 22:27.51 | oxman | then the next spell he cast is replace by blabla |
| 22:27.51 | oxman | :D |
| 22:28.07 | Tuplad | Kyahx: bah |
| 22:28.12 | Tuplad | Kyahx: Make 2 versions then, one that doesnt and one that does |
| 22:28.17 | Tekcub | there is no whilper and never will be |
| 22:28.18 | Kyahx | psh, im trying to be constructive, not malicious :P |
| 22:28.19 | oxman | lol |
| 22:28.21 | Tuplad | Kyahx: so it can be abused ;> |
| 22:28.24 | Tekcub | *whisper |
| 22:28.36 | Kyahx | I dont want to write anything that can be abused by anyone other than myself |
| 22:28.44 | Tuplad | damn |
| 22:28.44 | oxman | ah ah |
| 22:28.47 | Kyahx | if I do, I wont publish it |
| 22:28.51 | oxman | :p |
| 22:28.58 | Tuplad | well go ahead and write it then, I'll work on it ;< |
| 22:29.04 | Kyahx | Thats why my spamming mod isnt on the SVN :) |
| 22:29.05 | oxman | send me after |
| 22:29.05 | oxman | ;) |
| 22:29.18 | Tuplad | shoo oxman, Im getting all the goodies ;O |
| 22:29.24 | oxman | then i gotta go |
| 22:29.26 | oxman | gn all :) |
| 22:29.30 | Kyahx | later |
| 22:29.31 | Tuplad | aight |
| 22:29.42 | Tuplad | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.01 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (i=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-102.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:31.09 | Tuplad | Tekcub: you're tard right ? |
| 22:31.13 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 22:31.25 | Tain | No Tekkub is a tard, but isn't the tard. |
| 22:31.25 | Tuplad | Tekcub: I mean, the nick ... |
| 22:31.26 | Tekcub | fuck you |
| 22:31.32 | Tekcub | both of you |
| 22:31.35 | Tuplad | :D |
| 22:31.47 | Tuplad | Who's THE tard then ? <:O |
| 22:31.51 | ckknight_ | Tem's tardmrr |
| 22:31.56 | Tuplad | Oyea |
| 22:32.35 | Mikma | Tuplad: find a mirror and find a tard |
| 22:33.02 | Tuplad | Mikma: -_- gg nub |
| 22:33.07 | ckknight_ | running benchmarks for AceLocale-2.0 vs. AceLocale-2.1 now. |
| 22:33.14 | ckknight_ | table accesses have equal speed, as suspected |
| 22:33.41 | Mikma | oh pleaaaaase tuplad stop iiiit don't insult me like that i can't take it anymoreeeee *cry* |
| 22:33.48 | Mikma | aka *yawn* |
| 22:33.58 | Kyahx | lol |
| 22:34.14 | Kyahx | Bartender needs Dewdrop, this concerns me. |
| 22:34.21 | ckknight_ | why? |
| 22:34.27 | Mikma | Kyahx: it also need the damn shapeshift bugfix :P |
| 22:34.29 | Tuplad | Mikma: -_- |
| 22:34.32 | Mikma | i might look it today |
| 22:34.34 | Kyahx | becuase its not done yet :P |
| 22:34.42 | Kyahx | lol |
| 22:34.52 | Kyahx | I was thinking about it tooo |
| 22:35.02 | Kyahx | but I was also thinking about playing the game >.> |
| 22:35.19 | Tuplad | ;_; who plays the game anyway? |
| 22:35.24 | Kyahx | no idea |
| 22:35.32 | Kyahx | Guitar Hero sounds like a better idea |
| 22:35.34 | Tuplad | the world pvp thing which blizzard failed at sucks ;( |
| 22:35.36 | Kyahx | bbl |
| 22:38.55 | ckknight_ | woo! |
| 22:38.59 | ckknight_ | 2.0 is more efficient than 2.1 |
| 22:39.29 | ckknight_ | prepare for spam |
| 22:39.31 | ckknight_ | 2.0 __index 1: 18 2.0 __index 2: 27 |
| 22:39.31 | ckknight_ | 2.1 __index 1: 18 2.1 __index 2: 27 |
| 22:39.31 | ckknight_ | 2.0 __call 1: 42 2.0 __call 2: 50 |
| 22:39.31 | ckknight_ | 2.1 __call 1: 47 2.1 __call 2: 56 |
| 22:39.57 | ckknight_ | mmm, yes. |
| 22:41.23 | ckknight | nothing like a little healthy competition ;-) |
| 22:41.40 | Mikma | <Tuplad> the world pvp thing which blizzard failed at sucks ;( |
| 22:41.44 | Theondry | babble class is broken now? |
| 22:41.48 | Mikma | only thing sucking at it is tuplad |
| 22:41.51 | ckknight | Theondry, uh, is it? |
| 22:42.20 | ckknight | if so, that's bad |
| 22:42.23 | ckknight | I'll do some testing |
| 22:42.31 | Theondry | I updated acelocal-2.0, and changed all my L"asdf" to L["asdf"], and now babble class is vomiting all over me. |
| 22:43.04 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1715.msg37966.html#msg37966 |
| 22:43.18 | ckknight | Theondry, k, hang on. |
| 22:43.24 | *** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 22:43.28 | ckknight | gonna do some testing |
| 22:43.53 | Theondry | (backward compatibility seems fine, as I didn't have problems before adding in the brackets) |
| 22:44.01 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 22:44.24 | ckknight | hope AceLibrary isn't barfing all over this |
| 22:44.41 | ckknight | convoluted metatable madness, that is |
| 22:45.21 | ckknight | what error did you get? |
| 22:45.43 | Theondry | sec. bugsack keeps spamming errors and I keep losing the old ones. lemme reload |
| 22:45.55 | Mikma | ckknight: 911 - user missing |
| 22:46.06 | ckknight | ? |
| 22:46.16 | Mikma | that error ;) |
| 22:46.22 | ckknight | ... |
| 22:46.35 | Theondry | bc-2.0.lua 102. No translations registered |
| 22:46.45 | Theondry | (line 102) |
| 22:48.02 | Mikma | Neronix: code it! |
| 22:50.51 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9128 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - more rawgets/sets going in |
| 22:52.24 | Tuplad | http://static.curse-gaming.com/mscreens/10392.jpg ughhhhh, dart! |
| 22:52.53 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9129 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: |
| 22:52.53 | CIA-11 | WitchHunt |
| 22:52.53 | CIA-11 | - TOC updates |
| 22:53.30 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9130 10tekProber/tekProber.toc: |
| 22:53.30 | CIA-11 | tekProber |
| 22:53.30 | CIA-11 | - TOC Update |
| 22:53.38 | Mikma | Tuplad: does that make you horny? |
| 22:53.38 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9131 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: AceLocale - added AceLibrary checks |
| 22:53.45 | Tuplad | na'ah :( |
| 22:53.47 | ckknight | Theondry, care to try now? |
| 22:53.56 | Mikk | Imagine that theme in MC |
| 22:53.58 | Mikk | mmmmm |
| 22:54.00 | Tuplad | yuck |
| 22:54.01 | Mikk | stone.. stone... more stone.... |
| 22:54.07 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9132 10tekSupport/tekSupport.toc: |
| 22:54.07 | CIA-11 | tekSupport |
| 22:54.07 | CIA-11 | - TOC Update |
| 22:54.23 | *** join/#wowace maia (n=maia@chello084112137081.14.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 22:54.24 | Theondry | can I get away with just updating the libraries in my addon's directory, or do I have to update ALL my addons? |
| 22:54.25 | Mikma | i wanna have the frozen core :( |
| 22:54.57 | Tuplad | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2686-1-spelltips.html - Is there something like that around but without BonusScanner as a dependencie ;( ? Great addon |
| 22:55.21 | kergoth | whats wrong with bonusscanner? |
| 22:55.25 | Mikma | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=14967 |
| 22:55.42 | Tuplad | I have no idea kergoth |
| 22:56.35 | Mikma | theorycraft? |
| 22:56.51 | Tuplad | theorycraft has just too much info :o |
| 22:57.08 | ckknight | Theondry, depends on if you're on a PC or on a Mac/Linux |
| 22:57.12 | Theondry | PC |
| 22:57.28 | Theondry | (it bugs again, so I'm updating all my addons off the SVN.) |
| 22:57.50 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9133 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - more raw* changes |
| 22:58.09 | fleetfoot | kyahx: Something broke with the latest oRA_MainTank commit, on line 104 there is a else statement without a starting if statement. |
| 22:58.38 | *** join/#wowace Galka______ (n=Galka@pool-72-88-172-11.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:58.51 | Mikma | [Ammo]: so, rate oRA2 functionality to us from 1 to 10 |
| 22:59.06 | Tuplad | Mikma: It has like 4 modules, rate it for yourself :] |
| 22:59.27 | Mikma | no i wan't the "author" to do it assmonkey |
| 22:59.42 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster` (n=Arrow@cpe-24-209-111-105.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 22:59.50 | Tuplad | omdf |
| 22:59.51 | Tuplad | omg* |
| 23:00.26 | Tuplad | http://cosmosui.org/ - How can AlphaMap be a replacement for Atlas ? |
| 23:01.01 | kergoth | Tuplad: the new alphamap includes instance maps. its quite nice. |
| 23:01.05 | Kyahx|afk | fleetfoot: opps |
| 23:01.15 | Tuplad | kergoth: Nice :O |
| 23:01.23 | kergoth | Tuplad: bonusscanner works fine. i use spelltips in my set, and fubar_itembonusesfu uses bonusscanner as well |
| 23:01.28 | kergoth | Tuplad: check out the new alphamap's screenshots |
| 23:01.30 | kergoth | pretty kickass |
| 23:01.38 | kergoth | bit heavy on the ram, but no more so than metamap. hoping they fix that |
| 23:02.13 | Tuplad | kergoth: I see, but I was just worried, if I'd install SpellTips that'd be the only addon using BonusScanner ;( |
| 23:02.33 | Tuplad | kergoth: Screw the ram, it can replace MetaMap and Atlas :] |
| 23:03.00 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9134 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - more raw* changes |
| 23:03.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:03.10 | FISKER_Q | with the new svn change is zip's first created when an addon is updated? |
| 23:03.13 | Tekcub | <--- likes it raw |
| 23:03.16 | Theondry | ckknight: if it fixed it, but 9133 did not vomit at me. |
| 23:03.16 | Tuplad | Tem: What's the purpose of DuctTape ? |
| 23:03.18 | ckknight | FISKER_Q, yea |
| 23:03.18 | Tekcub | or with a lil crisco |
| 23:03.24 | Mikma | Tekcub: *rawr* |
| 23:03.32 | ckknight | Theondry, ? |
| 23:03.34 | FISKER_Q | man :I |
| 23:03.38 | Tekcub | hubby refuses to use the criscos |
| 23:03.44 | Tekcub | it's like cheapo lube |
| 23:03.51 | Tekcub | $1.50 for a big ol vat |
| 23:03.59 | Mikma | well he likes to use some heavyduty lube then? |
| 23:04.07 | maia | ckknight: found the reason why addons using .independentProfile still don't have a profile option? |
| 23:04.10 | Theondry | I'm no longer getting error spam. (commit 9133 fixed the problme for me.) |
| 23:04.16 | ckknight | maia, haven't looked into it |
| 23:04.16 | Tekcub | so we don't have sex because we're too cheap to go get a $15 3oz thing of lube :P |
| 23:04.20 | ckknight | Theondry, ah, okay. |
| 23:04.21 | maia | ckknight: aah, okay. |
| 23:04.51 | Tekcub | or maybe it's cause he knows that it was my quasi-ex that was the first to do the crisco with me, and he hates the guy |
| 23:05.05 | Tekcub | that's probably it actually |
| 23:05.20 | Tekcub | considering he's willing to try to use vaseline as lube >< |
| 23:05.41 | maia | Thrae: you there? |
| 23:05.53 | Mikma | vaseline is... nasty crap, nonwashable :P |
| 23:05.58 | CIA-11 | 03kyahx * r9135 10oRA_MainTank/ (oRA_MainTank.lua oRA_MainTank.toc): oRA_MainTank: Fixed line 104 |
| 23:06.02 | Kyahx | fleetfoot: try now |
| 23:06.06 | Theondry | vegetable oil > animal fat > petroleum jelly. |
| 23:06.17 | Theondry | water-based > all. |
| 23:06.27 | Mikk | Tuplad: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Duct+Tape+Trick, definition #2 |
| 23:06.28 | Tekcub | *buzz* |
| 23:06.33 | Tekcub | that was a good headrush |
| 23:06.36 | nekoh | Tekcub: you should clean up tekSupport, its not working without other mods, that use Ace2 - e.g. You are using Compost-2.0 but don't have that package embedded in your Libs directory |
| 23:06.40 | Tekcub | must do that more often |
| 23:06.56 | Mikma | Tekcub: yeah, good thing that you got it sorted. hehe |
| 23:07.02 | Tekcub | oops, any other externals missing? |
| 23:07.06 | nekoh | yes |
| 23:07.08 | nekoh | a lot ~ |
| 23:07.15 | Theondry | ckknight: why doesn't "if FuBar and tonumber(FuBar.version) > 2" work? It tells me I'm trying to compare a number with nil. |
| 23:07.16 | Tekcub | :P |
| 23:07.31 | Tekcub | I hate setting externals... damn their usefulness! |
| 23:07.35 | ckknight | Theondry, version is a string in the form of "2.0.7543" |
| 23:07.46 | Mikma | Mikk: ducky butt rubber? |
| 23:07.47 | ckknight | tostring("2.0.7543") == nil, since it's not a real number |
| 23:07.53 | nekoh | Tekcub: u dont refer to tekSupport\Libs\AceAddon-2.0 within your toc either |
| 23:08.01 | Tuplad | Mikk: -_-" |
| 23:08.06 | Mikk | Mikma: No, tuplad was just asking what Duct Tape is good for |
| 23:08.09 | maia | anyone in the BC alpha program? wondering how we should committ stuff into the SVN without breaking NDAs. any thoughs? |
| 23:08.24 | Mikma | Mikk: there's nothing in there :( |
| 23:08.27 | ckknight | maia, hrm. Why, are you in it? |
| 23:08.28 | Mikk | eh? |
| 23:08.30 | Mikma | Duct Tape Trick, is undefined. |
| 23:08.33 | Azurewrath | tekk: the BigWigs diff broke it.. typo on line 42 in Hakkar.lua .. a } is missing |
| 23:08.36 | Kyahx | maia: your in the BC alpha? |
| 23:08.42 | maia | ckknight: yes. |
| 23:08.48 | Tuplad | Mikma: The act of wrapping duct tape around a hamster, than painfully having sexual relations with it. the duct tape is necessary to avoid any potential full-body hamster splitting |
| 23:08.53 | Mikk | Mikma: cut the comma off |
| 23:08.53 | fleetfoot | kyahx: that did the trick, cookie for you |
| 23:08.54 | Kyahx | I envy you so |
| 23:09.00 | ckknight | maia, basically, I'd say feel free to post to SVN stuff, as long as it's not raw data such as talents or whatnot |
| 23:09.03 | Mikma | lol |
| 23:09.09 | Theondry | So how do I check if FuBar is bigger that 2? |
| 23:09.13 | ckknight | but if you want to include checking for the BE race or something, that'd be fine |
| 23:09.14 | Mikma | Tuplad: urban legend etc |
| 23:09.16 | Kyahx | screw that, priest talents! |
| 23:09.18 | Kyahx | :P |
| 23:09.18 | ckknight | it really depends on the situation |
| 23:09.23 | Tuplad | Mikma: :> |
| 23:09.25 | Kyahx | (kidding :)) |
| 23:09.33 | maia | ckknight: hmm. such as hiding the reasl reasons for changes from the svn commit messages? ;) |
| 23:09.42 | maia | s/reasl/real/ |
| 23:09.45 | Mikma | or.. |
| 23:09.46 | ckknight | if you get confused about a specific case, feel free to /msg me or another admin |
| 23:09.55 | Mikma | now i'm having the feelign that tuplad is going to test that |
| 23:10.05 | Kyahx | Poor hampster |
| 23:10.06 | ckknight | no, don't hide the reason, I'd say. It really depends on what you're doing |
| 23:10.06 | maia | ckknight: hhm okay. |
| 23:10.11 | hyperChipmunk | wwddddddd |
| 23:10.14 | Mikma | hampster! |
| 23:10.24 | ckknight | like if you change the level limit in your mod to 70, that'd be fine |
| 23:10.27 | ckknight | or something |
| 23:10.28 | Kyahx | hamster* |
| 23:10.30 | Kyahx | bleh |
| 23:10.34 | maia | its not a real problem yet anyway. but sooner or later I might need to change some stuff. |
| 23:10.38 | Mikma | no no, hampster is better |
| 23:10.56 | ckknight | but I wouldn't say, want to put the new bosses into Babble |
| 23:10.58 | Tuplad | Mikma: >_> |
| 23:11.06 | Mikma | http://www.hampsterdance.com/ |
| 23:11.06 | ckknight | pretty much. |
| 23:11.13 | nekoh | Tekcub: you also embedded AceLocal-2.0, but don't use it anywhere >< | another thing is AceConsole-2.0 and AceHook-2.0 are used as mixins, but arenet embedded, i'm not even sure you're using them because its not throwing errors at me when i delete them from mixins |
| 23:11.25 | Tuplad | omfg Mikma |
| 23:11.26 | FISKER_Q | btw |
| 23:11.28 | FISKER_Q | blizzard is stupid :P |
| 23:11.31 | ckknight | k? |
| 23:11.34 | FISKER_Q | you can download burning crusade from their webpage |
| 23:11.44 | Kyahx | ok, but can you run it? |
| 23:11.49 | Tekcub | uh... |
| 23:11.50 | FISKER_Q | i don't need to |
| 23:11.51 | Kyahx | lol |
| 23:11.55 | Tekcub | no I don't use AceHooks |
| 23:11.56 | Kyahx | link link!! |
| 23:11.58 | maia | FISKER_Q: psst. |
| 23:12.01 | Kyahx | lol |
| 23:12.05 | FISKER_Q | winmpq, wowmodelviewer and wowmapviewer is the only thing i need |
| 23:12.08 | Tekcub | I do manual hooks because I'm hooking EVERY frame with a handler |
| 23:12.32 | ckknight | ah. |
| 23:13.07 | Health | LinK! :p |
| 23:14.03 | Tuplad | FISKER_Q: link ? |
| 23:15.03 | Neronix | http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/stand-in/ |
| 23:15.13 | Tuplad | ckknight: you heard of Bhaldie ? |
| 23:15.18 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:15.21 | Neronix | Mikma: I'm back to haxoring Grayhoof's implementation |
| 23:15.30 | FISKER_Q | https://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/expansion/downloads/ |
| 23:15.39 | Tuplad | ckknight: when FuBar got released, I told him about it and asked him if he's gonna make a FuBared version of BRL |
| 23:15.40 | Health | Thanks dude |
| 23:15.44 | CIA-11 | 03theondry * r9136 10SnaFu/ (Changes.txt SnaFu-enUS.lua SnaFu.lua SnaFu.toc readme.txt): |
| 23:15.44 | CIA-11 | SnaFu |
| 23:15.44 | CIA-11 | 1.6a 25Aug06 |
| 23:15.44 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.44 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.13 | Health | Hopefully doesn't break the current installation |
| 23:16.15 | Tuplad | ckknight: He went crazy like "WTF IS SO GOOD ABOUT FUBAR HUUH YOU PUNK ? AND ACE SUCKS TOO, WHATS SO GOOD ABOUT IT ??" *This contact is now offline*" |
| 23:16.20 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9137 10tekSupport/ (Core.lua Libs/ tekSupport.toc): |
| 23:16.20 | CIA-11 | tekSupport |
| 23:16.20 | CIA-11 | - Erm... think that irons out the externals... |
| 23:16.27 | ckknight | lol, Tuplad |
| 23:16.56 | Health | aww.. now you mention his name again.. |
| 23:16.57 | Neronix | Mikma: went and made it a bit faster |
| 23:17.17 | Neronix | indexes a table to access its frames instead of getgloballing and concating strings |
| 23:17.33 | Tuplad | ckknight: I think I even have the logs |
| 23:17.39 | ckknight | find em. |
| 23:17.45 | Tuplad | will try |
| 23:17.57 | Tuplad | didnt delete my msn logs for over a year now :x |
| 23:17.59 | maia | ckknight: trying to understand the new AceLocale changes (L"something" -> L["something"]). How should I e.g. handle: textures = { [L"Default"] = "Interface\\AddOns\\Squishy\\textures\\default" } ? |
| 23:18.15 | ckknight | [L["Default"]] = ... |
| 23:18.35 | maia | okay. looks strange but if you say it works I trust you ;) |
| 23:18.41 | Mikma | Neronix: rofl, you just can't decide :D |
| 23:18.52 | Neronix | Mikma: Technical reasons :P |
| 23:19.05 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 23:19.14 | Neronix | I like Andalia's code better, but Grayhoof's got the whole pseudo-SMF system |
| 23:20.30 | Mikma | Neronix: remove the ugly gap between the lines, yarr! |
| 23:21.10 | ckknight | maia, yep. |
| 23:22.02 | ckknight | okay, Wiki is updated for the indexing way |
| 23:22.09 | ckknight | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceLocale-2.0 |
| 23:22.16 | Neronix | I love the MI2 fanboys and Skeeve's attempt to say MI2 is better |
| 23:23.17 | Tain | Well, Mission Impossible was better than Mission Impossible 2, but that's not really saying that much. |
| 23:23.49 | Mikma | and Mission Impossible 3 was a flop |
| 23:24.20 | Tain | So MI2 definitely isn't bettter. |
| 23:24.42 | Neronix | s/MI2/MobInfo2 |
| 23:24.55 | Theondry | Oo... the new autozipping is quite convinient. |
| 23:25.39 | Kyahx | old stuff needs to be zipped thou |
| 23:25.53 | FISKER_Q | ^^ |
| 23:26.01 | Theondry | Old stuff can just be exported. |
| 23:26.03 | FISKER_Q | i want to delete all my svn addons |
| 23:26.13 | FISKER_Q | so i don't have those thousands of folders there :P |
| 23:26.23 | maia | ckknight: what about Babble-Spell, can it also use BS["..."], or is it still recommended to use BS"..."? (I know thats 2 different addons, but who knows, maybe the [ ] stuff will always work, maybe if not speed optimized though) |
| 23:26.38 | ckknight | maia, use the brackets, it'll be faster. |
| 23:26.53 | ckknight | Babble-Spell uses AceLocale |
| 23:26.54 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 23:26.58 | ckknight | so it's all good |
| 23:27.01 | Theondry | Size of addons: 76 megs. Size on disk: 94.4 megs |
| 23:27.11 | maia | aaah, good to know. |
| 23:27.18 | Theondry | 132 addons, over 5 thousand directories. |
| 23:29.13 | FISKER_Q | 110 addons, Size on disk: 63MB, 4170 files and 4195 folders |
| 23:29.35 | FISKER_Q | i actually think that world of warcraft starts significantly slower with all those folders and files |
| 23:29.41 | Theondry | Yes. |
| 23:29.47 | FISKER_Q | Cause my second installation and PTR client start up instant |
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| 23:30.21 | FryGuy- | oh no |
| 23:30.31 | FryGuy- | i updated addons in a raid from svn |
| 23:30.39 | FryGuy- | and acelocale broke BW :( |
| 23:30.40 | Neronix | Know what? I don't see the point of having my WoW partition Fat32 |
| 23:30.51 | Tuplad | Interface\Addons\BigWigs\ZG\Hakkar.lua:42: `}' expected (to close '{' at line 98) near `flee' |
| 23:31.00 | Theondry | Hrm. FuBarPlugin-2.0 is busted up ,now. (when loading without fubar installed.) |
| 23:31.38 | ckknight | how? |
| 23:32.41 | Theondry | line 231 tablet-2.0: bad argument #2 to 'Refresh' (table or string expected, got nil) |
| 23:32.45 | maia | ckknight: haha, look whats back: FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:521: Tablet-2.0: You cannot detach tablet with an unregistered parent frame. |
| 23:33.21 | Tuplad | ckknight: :< |
| 23:33.23 | Tuplad | [01:33-16]: Babble-Class-2.0\Babble-Class-2.0.lua:102: Babble-Class-2.0: No translations registered |
| 23:33.37 | ckknight | tell me, s that the first error or the last error? |
| 23:33.42 | Theondry | very first, ckk. |
| 23:35.40 | ckknight | maia, can you get me a debugstack for that? |
| 23:35.47 | Azurewrath | Neronix: hrm.. unless you want it fully linux-accessible, theres absolutely no point in not using NTFS :) |
| 23:35.49 | maia | if you tell me how, sure. |
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| 23:37.14 | Neronix | Azurewrath: I thought Fat32 would make it faster, but I saw no difference |
| 23:37.22 | Neronix | and it makes my mod load order all wonky |
| 23:37.44 | Tuplad | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/408 - and BigWigs icon says MobHealth3 now :X |
| 23:38.12 | Kyahx | whoa my interface blew up |
| 23:38.13 | Kyahx | ??? |
| 23:38.16 | ckknight | Fat32 is a lot worse than NTFS |
| 23:38.18 | ckknight | hell. |
| 23:38.23 | FISKER_Q | ofc it is |
| 23:38.37 | Health | I user Reiser4 on my laptop |
| 23:39.12 | Azurewrath | Neronix: it was a bit (not really noticable) slower than Fat16 like ~12 Years ago with WinNT.. but with todays CPUs theres no point in that |
| 23:39.12 | Neronix | I wish some so-and-so would write drivers for Reiser4, XFS, JFS or whatever other next generation uberfast FS |
| 23:39.17 | Neronix | for Windows I mean |
| 23:39.35 | Neronix | Someone did, but they got shutdown by GPL violations |
| 23:39.39 | Azurewrath | NTFS 3.1 is fine, believe me :) |
| 23:40.00 | Health | Reiser4 has been serving my needs for... up 350 days, 6:05 |
| 23:41.39 | CIA-11 | 03saroz * r9138 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesLocals.lua): sRaidFrames: Added ability to hide group titles, provided the frames are locked - if unlocked, the titles are displayed again, as they are needed for positioning. |
| 23:42.04 | ckknight | damn |
| 23:42.09 | ckknight | should've put it into branches |
| 23:42.10 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:42.16 | CIA-11 | 03codayus * r9139 10DowJones/ (DowJones.toc lib/): DowJones - Updated TOC, attempt to set externals. |
| 23:42.31 | ckknight | Codayus, what's DowJones? |
| 23:42.57 | Codayus | It's the working name of a zero-sum loot/auction/dkp distribution thing. Which doesn't work, just at the moment. :-) |
| 23:43.32 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r9140 10Squishy/ (core.lua frames.lua): Squishy: changed locals to make use of new AceLocale performance. |
| 23:43.47 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r9141 10Detox/Detox.lua: Detox: changed locals to make use of new AceLocale performance. |
| 23:44.41 | Tuplad | Tekcub: Something's wrong with Teknicolor :] |
| 23:44.59 | Codayus | Uses perl scripts to scrape dkp values from an eqdkp installation. So you can say something like: /dj start [The Untamed Blade], select which classes can bid, and then it spams /raid, and then tells you who won. Or it will...someday... |
| 23:45.07 | Mikma | Tuplad: your computer is the only thing wrong |
| 23:45.12 | MoonWolf | I will take no more of this Tuplad, *takes the trout away and puts it back in the wild* |
| 23:45.52 | Neronix | ~whaletrout Tuplad |
| 23:45.53 | purl | ACTION slaps Tuplad with Hugh's more acrobatic cousin, Milliardo, who in turn slaps Tuplad around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:45.53 | Health | I should give Bartender2 a try again.. bloaded DAB, can't even find wheter it supports profiles or not.. and the depth sorting of frames are just off |
| 23:45.59 | Mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5274-WoW_Texas_Holdem.html |
| 23:46.08 | Tuplad | -_- |
| 23:46.14 | Tuplad | Tekcub: http://ace.pastey.net/408 |
| 23:46.34 | maia | uh oh. guess whats inside the auto-generated http://svn.wowace.com/files/Squishy-r9140.zip |
| 23:46.43 | maia | no, its not Squishy. its Detox. |
| 23:47.12 | Azurewrath | Lexan-successor ;) |
| 23:47.14 | maia | http://svn.wowace.com/files/Detox-r9141.zip is Detox too - this time with changelog and main folder. |
| 23:47.38 | maia | guess Clad's script doesnt like 2 commits within a short time. |
| 23:48.29 | Neronix | Azurewrath: hehe |
| 23:49.06 | FISKER_Q | you broke it |
| 23:49.08 | FISKER_Q | you bastard! |
| 23:49.18 | Neronix | /gquit |
| 23:49.22 | Neronix | /hearth |
| 23:50.56 | Mikma | hmm |
| 23:51.02 | Mikma | anyone tried ChatEx Revisited? |
| 23:51.03 | Azurewrath | mhm.. anyone with svn-write access mind fixing BigWigs? Should be only a typo :) |
| 23:51.12 | Mikma | there's only 1 screenshot of it available :P |
| 23:51.13 | CIA-11 | 03maia * r9142 10Squishy/Squishy.toc: Squishy: checking the auto-generate-zip script as the last commit zipped something else instead of Squishy. |
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| 23:52.08 | Mikma | Tekcub: fix it |
| 23:52.23 | Tekcub | fix what? |
| 23:52.36 | Mikma | <Azurewrath> mhm.. anyone with svn-write access mind fixing BigWigs? Should be only a typo :) |
| 23:52.42 | Mikma | let me guess |
| 23:52.43 | Tuplad | Tekcub: http://ace.pastey.net/408 |
| 23:52.45 | Azurewrath | Hakkar.lua on line 42 theres a } missing :) |
| 23:52.45 | Mikma | "you do it" |
| 23:52.45 | Tekcub | oh yea... |
| 23:53.09 | Tekcub | I love people that post a diff without testing it |
| 23:54.17 | CIA-11 | 03tekkub * r9143 10BigWigs/ZG/Hakkar.lua: |
| 23:54.17 | CIA-11 | BigWigs |
| 23:54.17 | CIA-11 | - Typo! |
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| 23:54.35 | CIA-11 | 03codayus * r9144 10DowJones/ (README lib/): DowJones - Added a readme. Fixed a typo in one of the externals. |
| 23:54.41 | Azurewrath | Tekcub: thx :) |
| 23:55.00 | Mikma | christ tek, 3 line commit for 1 character lol |
| 23:55.06 | Tuplad | -_- |
| 23:55.08 | CIA-11 | 03ckknight * r9145 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - changed IsCorrectPlugin/IsCorrectPanel to not error. |
| 23:55.10 | snurre | geezus, The Exodar is HUGE |
| 23:55.49 | ckknight | hrm |
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| 23:56.50 | maia | ckknight: what did that latest FuBar update do? Is this a possible fix for the good old detach bug? |
| 23:57.06 | ckknight | try it out. |
| 23:57.17 | ckknight | don't think so, but it may be possible |
| 23:59.06 | ckknight | I'm not getting any errors now |
| 23:59.29 | maia | ckknight: neither am I |
| 23:59.38 | maia | but its not like I'm having that error on each login |
| 23:59.44 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:59.52 | ckknight | I think it was cause FuBar fucked up the loading process |
