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00:00.18snurreis ora2 "ready(tm)" for use yet?
00:05.45eternally777Is there a function to unlock chat windows?
00:07.20CIA-1103jncl * r8750 10RepToGo/RepToGo.lua: RepToGo: Changed PEW to MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED as it is more reliable at Login and Reloads
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00:11.23CIA-1103tekkub * r8751 10Cockpit/ (Cockpit.toc Core.lua):
00:11.23CIA-11Cockpit
00:11.23CIA-11- svn:keywords are a good thing!
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00:11.48CIA-1103cladhaire 07Ace2 * r8752 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaid.toc libs/ProximityLib.lua): PerfectRaid: Some changes
00:11.48grumpeyevening ./
00:13.15Amadeoanyone know how to self-fix HonorFu?
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00:16.17Healthhttp://waste.pp.fi/kuvasto/internetwarrior0or.jpg
00:16.20ckknighthey all
00:16.28grumpeyeya
00:16.32Health~ckknight
00:16.34purli heard ckknight is http://www.myspace.com/ckknight
00:17.02ckknight:-P
00:17.06ckknightthat's not mine
00:17.10ckknight~literal ckknight
00:17.11purl"ckknight" is "http://www.myspace.com/ckknight"
00:17.19ckknighthow do I check who set that?
00:17.29hyperChipmunkfactinfo
00:17.39Kebinusanheheh
00:17.45Thraehehe, /bs show curr gives me an error with 1.12.
00:18.46ckknight~factinfo ckknight
00:18.46purlckknight -- created by cladhaire <n=jnwhiteh@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com> at Mon Aug 14 00:29:02 2006 (8 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by Health, 2m 12s ago.
00:18.58ckknight~forget ckknight
00:18.58purlckknight: i forgot ckknight
00:19.02Healthaww
00:19.08maiaAFKwelcome back, ckk
00:19.44ckknighthey maia
00:20.01Kyahxck!  =D
00:20.15maiaAFKckknight: is it possible AceComm doesnt properly send the prefix, maybe it's memoizing it?
00:20.38ckknightit's memoizing.
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00:20.41maiaAFKah. so thats okay I guess.
00:20.42ckknightit should work fine, though
00:20.55ckknightbut RockPaperScissors will turn into Ufr or something
00:20.59maiaAFK;)
00:21.09KyahxFalse alarm, my bad :P
00:21.11ckknightbasically, memoizing doesn't hurt, and it only helps
00:21.32Kyahxthe perfix isnt human readable thou :P  or atleast dosent show up when you AddMessage
00:21.34maiaAFKckknight: note that the wiki says to set .commPrefix, but the lib prefers to have :SetCommPrefix()
00:21.44ckknightKyahx, um, so?
00:21.52KyahxI know, I just got confused
00:21.52ckknightmaiaAFK, whoops.
00:21.54maiaAFKckknight: if you only set .commPrefix, it'll error in the Encode()
00:21.55ckknighttoday's my birthday
00:22.00Kyahxhappy b-day!
00:22.08Tekkubckk is back
00:22.09maiaAFKckknight: no excuses!
00:22.11ckknightI think I may go skydiving later today
00:22.18Tekkubwe have a list of things that you need to fix, NOW!
00:22.20Neronix`sleepckknight: Kyahx wrote an addon that prints every CHAT_MSG_ADDON to ChatFrame3
00:22.34ckknightah.
00:22.40TekkubKyahx needs to just make FireShow better
00:22.42KyahxIt was just misleading =(  I expected not human readable to be numbers or something
00:22.46Neronix`sleepIf we could have a way to unmemoize AceComm prefixes for display in that, it'd be great
00:22.51Neronix`sleepand happy bday
00:22.58ckknightokay, Kyahx, you just have to check AceComm.memoizedPrefixes[memo] or something.
00:23.18Kyahxk, I havent looked at AceComm at all yet
00:23.23KyahxI'll make VAM better later
00:23.27Silvhm
00:23.34snurre[02:22] <ckknight> today's my birthday
00:23.35snurremine too
00:23.36Silvlatest sRaidFrames broken for anyone?
00:23.38ckknightcool, snurre
00:23.43ckknighthow old are you?
00:23.59phyberckknight: I took some of your fubar plugins :)
00:24.03snurre23
00:24.10phyberBagFu, MoneyFu, TopScoreFu so far.
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00:24.20ckknightphyber, sounds good.
00:24.22Tekkuboh yea, phyber's claiming Fu mods
00:24.23ckknighttell Cairenn?
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00:24.36Tekkuboh yea, get rights for NTF too from her
00:24.38phybernot yet, going to soon.
00:24.52maiaAFKckknight: oh, and I'd love to see a fix for this error:  FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:519: Tablet-2.0: You cannot detach tablet with an unregistered parent frame.
00:24.54phyberafter I can test them on 1.12
00:25.03Cairennneed PMs from you guys saying taking ownership and agreeing to it, so I can get ownership transfered
00:25.05ckknightokay
00:25.08ckknightokay
00:25.17Tekkubhehe, and I'd love if my Fu plugins remembered their positions....
00:25.24ckknightTekkub, mine do
00:25.30ckknightI thought I fixed that bug.
00:25.30Tekkubit's patch day, you need to fix them again just like arcane missles
00:25.44ckknightCairenn, PMs where?
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00:26.11Tekkub"Fixed a bug with Arcane missles, now working as intended" == "Fubar plugins now remember their positions correctly"
00:26.26Arrowmasterphyber: are you by any chance making TopScoreFu not save records against certain mobs?
00:26.27ckknighthehe
00:26.43ckknightknock yourself out ;-)
00:26.44phyberArrowmaster: for the moment, I'm just converting it to Fubar2.
00:26.48Tekkubckk, it's odd and random now
00:26.55ckknightTekkub, not for me.
00:27.01phyberafter that, who knows what happens :)
00:27.04ckknightalso feel free to do whatever you want, such as use ParserLib or what have you.
00:27.06Tekkubpeople with diff profiles on diff chars get different mexican jumping plugins
00:27.21ckknightwell they do like to jump across the border.
00:27.33Tekkubfrom the little I've seen, I want to thing they're the last plugins to load up that are doing it...
00:27.36Arrowmasterfor now ill keep using my modified version then
00:28.01Tekkublike.. stuff on my first panel stay there usually
00:28.07TainMailFu and Bugsack are the two that never remember positions for me.  A couple others might do it less often, but I'm not 100% sure.
00:28.14phyberckknight: I might take some more of the plugins after I'm done with the ones I actually use.  See what happens :)
00:28.15ckknightTekkub, cause the first panel represents America
00:28.20TainBut those two are 100% in not remembering position.
00:28.21ckknightthey're already where they want to be.
00:28.22Tekkubbut things positioned near the end of the line or on the later panels like to move
00:28.38ckknightphyber, sounds good to me.
00:29.31Arrowmasterwith overflow plugins on i was having everything set to left position jump up to a new panel
00:29.31CairennI need PM from whoever is taking over with *links( to which ones they are taking over and I just need you to confirm it for me, ckknight
00:29.55ckknightsounds good.
00:29.57Cairennsorry for delay, was trying to get some food
00:30.09Tekkubcair, you've got PMs!
00:30.14Tekkub... PMS?
00:30.21CairennTekkub: not 1/4 so bad as you do :p
00:30.35ckknightpissy man syndrome.
00:30.35Tekkubno, go read it first
00:30.45Tekkubthen it'll be only 1/2 as much
00:30.50ThraeDoes doing local _ actually save anything?
00:30.59hyperChipmunkno
00:31.02hyperChipmunkwell
00:31.04hyperChipmunknot to a SV
00:31.10CairennTekkub: lol
00:31.13hyperChipmunk_ is a valid variable name
00:31.13CairennTekkub: read
00:31.13Tekkub^^
00:31.25hyperChipmunkit just is convention to use it for scratch variables
00:31.30hyperChipmunkit doesn't actually mean anything
00:31.35ThraeNo no, I mean saving resources when using it in, say, _,_,foo=string.find(msg,pattern)
00:31.37hyperChipmunkit's not handled any differently
00:31.54hyperChipmunkit's the same as doing bar, bar, foo =
00:31.54ckknightThrae, technically.
00:32.01ThraeOK, so doing local _ will save Lua from indexing a global.
00:32.05hyperChipmunkso you're saving by using the scratch variable twice
00:32.06ckknightyes.
00:32.25Tekkuboh and phyber, there's an outstanding ToDo on FS for NTF :)
00:32.29Tekkubfor today's patch even
00:32.42Gamefaqfubar plugins that are new donīt remember positions, pluigins that are updatet from 1.2 to 2 remember position. that is which I observed
00:32.57phyberTekkub: the nameplates stuff, i saw it.
00:33.04phyberI didn't quite get it though.
00:33.12TekkubFAQ, if you pure the database of a converted old one does it forget?
00:33.27TekkubI just copy/pasted the patch notes
00:33.44TekkubI'm sure you'll notice there's an option for nameplates in NTF's menu/tablet?
00:33.49Tekkuboh there's another idea
00:33.55phyberyeah.
00:34.00Tekkubmake the tablet clickable ala GuildFu :)
00:34.10phyberah, right.  now I get it.
00:34.25phyberclickable tablet is easy, I use one in GcInFu :)
00:34.36Gamefaq@tekkub that so far i did not try
00:34.49Gamefaqour europe servers are down :/
00:35.07Tekkubs/pure/purge/
00:35.35phyberGamefaq: do the plugins remember their positions if you disable compat-1.2 and disable your old plugins?
00:35.48phyberjust to see if compat-1.2 is screwing it up in some way.
00:36.15ckknightwhy is wowace.com so slow?
00:36.28ckknightis it just me?
00:36.49Gamefaqblizz extended the downtime for 1.12 here in europe from 02.00 to 16.00 o'clock :(
00:37.03Gamefaqcanīt test sry
00:37.05eternally777Patch day, and I think someone said that it shares servers/locations with wowinterface?
00:37.14phyberahh, good for them.  so they can bring the servers up and go home for the night.
00:37.49Tekkubyes ckk, only you are slow... in the head
00:37.57ckknight...
00:38.11ckknightwhere's Kaelten?
00:38.22hyperChipmunkmy team ripped apart a PvP server team in AB $  They should have to pay a penalty for that...like, if you lose to an RP realm, you have to change your name to something not stupid
00:38.27Tekkubhe's pouting in wowilounge
00:38.32Tekkuboh wait that's clad :)
00:38.45Tekkubsomeone smack that bastard... CAIR!!!!
00:39.36ckknightTekkub, it's not going to be that easy.
00:39.39hyperChipmunkthere was one person near the end who came to the stable; I hit him with a wyvsting and was going to let him go, until I noticed that he was Averybadguy
00:40.12hyperChipmunkI can let Averybadguy just run around free in AB
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00:40.22hyperChipmunks/can/can't/
00:40.23TekkubhC: less honor (none?) if your sever is PvP and the enemie's is not and you lose :)
00:40.40ckknighthey Kaelten
00:40.47hyperChipmunkTekkub: that would be great
00:40.55TekkubKael I need something from you, what was it?
00:41.02ThraeI am still disallusioned that the GMs thought "Defeat" was a proper name for a Roleplaying server.
00:41.07Kaeltenhey ck
00:41.09Kaeltenckknight:  I rewrote AceLocale
00:41.16ckknightah, okay
00:41.20Tekkuboh yea... mind hitting up FlySpray's SVN and... you know... being like our users? :)
00:41.25ckknightI did as well a bit, on my vacation
00:41.26wereHamstercan someone please try "svn list svn://dbservice.com/big/svn/yukon/trunk" ?
00:41.48KaeltenI havn't commited it yet because it has some fairly significant changes
00:41.55ckknightalright
00:42.04ckknightwell, I'll take a look at it in a bit.
00:42.13phyberwereHamster: svn: Connection closed unexpectedly
00:42.15Kaeltenits very fast though
00:42.19KaeltenTekkub: huh?
00:42.23Tekkubfast FTW!
00:42.33Kaeltenand you can still do L"Bob"
00:42.39Tekkubwill you update FS to a more stable build?
00:42.45Kaeltenbut you can also do L.Bob or L["Bob"]
00:42.54Tekkuband will you smack clad around a tad too?
00:43.59ckknightKaelten, sounds good
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00:44.39TekkubKael!
00:45.04Kaeltena few differences is that the object that AceLocale returns never has any member functions
00:45.16ckknighthrm.
00:45.27ckknightkay...
00:45.28KaeltenI've been shifting the functions to AceLibrary
00:45.31Kaeltenerr AceLocale
00:45.38ckknightalright
00:46.03Kaeltenso you do AceLocale:RegisterTranslation("Addon", "enUS", function() return {...}end)
00:46.37Kaeltenthen you do L = AceLocale:GetTranslation("Addon", ["locale"])
00:47.08Kaeltenthere is AceLocale:SetStrictness("Addon", true)
00:47.23Kaeltenor you can force a given behavior by doing L("bob", true)
00:47.34Kaeltento force strictness or false to force unstrict
00:48.28Nightdewcan anyone think of a way to recognize Aimed Shot without using localizations?
00:48.31Kaeltenany feedback?
00:48.49Tekkubnew major version I assume Kael?
00:49.00hyperChipmunkKaelten: that sounds like how I did AceTab
00:49.05KaeltenI was thinking about making it 2.1
00:49.15Tekkubno night, sorry
00:49.25TekkubK, ok
00:49.44Kaeltennow the things I have NOT done yet and not sure that I am
00:49.54ckknightKaelten, sounds good
00:50.06ckknightfor AceLocale, making it 2.1 wouldn't be a bad idea
00:50.23Kaelten1) it no longer supports multi level locals
00:50.30ckknightthat's fine
00:50.36Kaelten2) I havn't done a HasTranslation or HasREverseTranslation
00:50.38hyperChipmunkI like that; you can do fun things with it; but I notice that you're returning a table instead of generating it in AceLocale and passing it as the first arg to the function.  It was you or someone else who suggested that I change that in AceTab, since I was originally returning a table
00:50.47Tekkubthink that AL-2.0 was a tad overcomplex
00:50.56ckknightalright, (2) is needed, imho
00:51.04NightdewKaelten: those are used in a few mods i believe
00:51.07Kaeltenand obviously GetTable is no longer there
00:51.13TekkubI use HasTranslation
00:51.22KaeltenI can add it in as a function of AceLocale
00:51.36KaeltenAceLocale:HasTranslation("addon", "string")
00:51.43ckknightokay
00:52.01Tekkub"Works for me"
00:52.03ckknightI don't think that's good.
00:52.10KaeltenAlso I've added the ability to support non standard locales and even forcing a locale to be used when it normally wouldn't be.
00:52.21ckknightI don't see why you shouldn't be able to do L:HasTranslation("string")
00:52.47Kaeltenckknight: its because then you couldn't localize the string HasTranslation
00:52.48Tekkubgtalk's file transfers kick ass
00:52.59Tekkubworks behind 2 NATs, no forwarding required
00:53.03hyperChipmunkreally? I haven't tried them yet
00:53.04hyperChipmunknice
00:53.08Tekkubno other IM prog has done that for me
00:53.10ckknightKaelten, yea, I understand that, but I don't think people need to localize HasTranslation
00:53.10KaeltenTekkub: yep, and the images do thumbnails :)
00:53.10hyperChipmunkport 80 ftw
00:53.22Tekkubyahho will bounce it thru their server, but direct xfer no go
00:53.25dreadlyonewhen trying to do a version query in bigwigs, it throws an error in several libs
00:53.26Kaeltenckknight:  but should we make it impossible?  I'd rather not.
00:53.31ckknighttherefore, if we check if the translation table has "HasTranslation", then just say you shouldn't
00:53.34Silvyep
00:53.39SilvsRaidFrames is completely toast :(
00:53.48Silvsadface
00:53.53Kaeltenwell here is an option.
00:53.53hyperChipmunkraid windows and IDs are messed up to the extreme
00:54.01ckknightKaelten, I don't want to have people do AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.1"):HasTranslation("Babble-Spell-2.1", "Thingy")
00:54.05hyperChipmunkyou don't see your normal raid when you're in a BG
00:54.08hyperChipmunkbut you can talk to them
00:54.15hyperChipmunkwith /ra
00:54.17ckknightwhen they can just do BS:HasTranslation("Thingy")
00:54.28ckknightbasically.
00:54.29hyperChipmunkunless they're in the bg with you, obviously
00:54.43maiaAFKhyperChipmunk: RosterLib works fine in 1.12
00:55.01Silvthis bites =/
00:55.06hyperChipmunkhave you joined a battleground with a mixed raid? half in the BG and half not?
00:55.20KaeltenI can make the metatable of the baseTranslation point to the functions that are in AceLocale that could be in the returned object
00:55.24maiaAFKhyperChipmunk: I've joined a BG ungrouped.
00:55.29hyperChipmunkthat's not the same
00:55.32maiaAFKhmm
00:55.42hyperChipmunkI'm talking, say you have an existant raid
00:55.51hyperChipmunkwith 15 people total, 10 of which are queued for WSG
00:55.54ckknightSilv, hrm?
00:56.04Kaeltenso you can  still call L:HasTranslation()
00:56.16ckknightKaelten, that was my plan.
00:56.19hyperChipmunksay, 9 of the 10 get wsg, the 10th is offline when it pops and the other 5 aren't queued
00:56.23Nightdewhas anyone done any talent tree parsing?
00:56.35maiaAFKhyperChipmunk: still listening
00:56.48Kaeltenk, I'll add that in my version real quick
00:56.49hyperChipmunkthe 9 get shuffled into a NEW 'raid' inside the BG, and the 10th from wherever gets stuck in that raid
00:57.00hyperChipmunkyou can communicate with /bg to the 10 people insdie
00:57.03hyperChipmunkand /ra with everyone
00:57.07Silvckknight: was referring to sRaidFrames is all
00:57.10hyperChipmunkexcept those that are only in the BG
00:57.13hyperChipmunkBUT
00:57.15Kaeltenoh, also  you no longer call AceLocale:new() any more
00:57.16maiaAFKhyperChipmunk: and what about the raidids?
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00:57.27hyperChipmunkyour raid frame only contains the 10 in the battleground
00:57.52hyperChipmunkyou don't see joins, drops, anything from those people
00:58.02maiaAFKhmm
00:58.06hyperChipmunkI was adding people while in WSG, and I had no clue what my raid looked like until I got out
00:58.07HealthHmm.. cross server bgs inactivated?
00:58.21ckknightKaelten, new was handy for libraried localization, like babble
00:58.30hyperChipmunkbecause the battleground group replaces your raid while you're inside it
00:58.43hyperChipmunkand if someone joins a battleground other than the one you're in, they're yanked from the raid
00:58.49ckknightjust gotta make sure that it works properly that way
00:59.08ckknightwell, that you can properly register with AceLibrary, that is
00:59.14ckknightsomehow
00:59.17Kaeltenyou can
00:59.26maiaAFKhyperChipmunk: hmm. I've posted questions to cross-realm BGs several times in the past 6 weeks - in IRC and I think also on the forums. noone ever mentioned there was a problem, so I assumed there isnt.
00:59.39Kaeltenwhen you call RegisterTranslation it checks the registry and then it works
01:00.09maiaAFKhyperChipmunk: basically we'd want to have battegroup1 - battlegroup40 plus raid1 - raid40, right?
01:00.13Kaeltenyou register the translations and then you can Get the translations
01:00.14hyperChipmunkno idea
01:00.23Kaeltenyou can still call new() you just don't hwave
01:00.24Kaeltento
01:00.28Kaeltendamn my typos are bad
01:00.29hyperChipmunkI haven't looked deep into any of it
01:00.45hyperChipmunkbut PerfectRaid will not show anyone not in the BG when you're in a BG
01:01.04hyperChipmunkand neither will blizz's raid window
01:01.21hyperChipmunkand, as I said, you can't see joins the raid and leaves the raid messages, though you can do invites
01:01.31maiaAFKweird
01:01.36hyperChipmunkyou can't tell if they declined/joined/etc until they've spoken or until you get out of the BG
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01:02.02Kaeltenckknight:  I'll commit in a few mins and then you guys can start tearing into it and testing it
01:02.12ckknightokay
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01:03.04maiaAFKguess I'll worry about that tomorrow. 3am here. night everyone!
01:03.47ZeryloRA is still changing channels in 1.12 -- or will it always say that?
01:04.06Kaeltenstarted my new job on monday
01:04.11ckknightKaelten, good times
01:04.38Kaeltenhehe
01:04.39Kaeltenya
01:04.42Kaeltendamn 1.12 came out today
01:04.44Kaeltenshit
01:05.30Tekkubkael == slow
01:06.16Kaeltenkael == working 10 or so hours a day
01:06.31KaeltenI'm a manager trainee with U-haul now
01:07.23Kaeltenin the next month or so I'll be either a center manager or a field manager
01:08.44Tekkubwhat fun!
01:10.15Kaeltenya tell me about it
01:13.25KyahxZeryl: it shouldnt be...
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01:14.19Zerylon zone in/out
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01:14.44Industrial~wowace forums
01:14.48Industrial~ace forums
01:14.54Zerylwww.wowace.com
01:15.00Zeryl?
01:15.04ckknightyea, it is
01:15.05Tekkub~ace forum
01:15.06purl[ace forum] down yet again
01:15.11Zeryloh, heh
01:15.13Industrialthere wego
01:15.29ckknight~literal ace forum
01:15.31purl"ace forum" is "(online|offline|online, I think|probably offline|up and down more than Tekkub on a good night|up... no wait... nevermind...|down yet again)"
01:15.31Zeryldo you guys want a backup site?
01:15.34ZerylI have plenty of space
01:16.07Zeryland since it's on wowi, it will go down on patch days :(
01:16.09ckknightZeryl, it's cause wowace is hosted by WoWI, and people go to WoWI for patchday
01:16.51Zeryl*nod*
01:17.55Cairennactually, it's because of the ct site, their mirror took the files down for a bit but they are back up now
01:18.11Cairennhence the ace site is back up now too
01:18.19Cairennslow, but up
01:18.25TekkubGetNumLaguages()   - Returns the number of languages your character can speak (I guess Blizzard's programmers mistyped that function name).
01:18.27Tekkubhehe
01:18.34Zeryllol
01:18.44KebinusanNaxx isnt running on our realm :-/
01:18.48Kebinusan<3 patch day
01:19.08Zerylhalf the normal instances aren't on ours either, dire maul is down, lbrs/ubrs is down
01:21.20HealthI'll cry myself to bed!
01:21.53CIA-1103tekkub * r8754 10Quecho/ (Core.lua Quecho.toc):
01:21.53CIA-11Quecho
01:21.53CIA-11- Ace2/patch-1.12 conversion, comm doesn't do anything but send massages right now
01:21.53CIA-11- Removed all the old QuestAssist crap, I don't need to implement any of that crap now thanks to Blizzy
01:21.53CIA-11- No, externals aren't set up yet...
01:21.54HealthWith the knowlage that wow will equale suckage in EU tomorrow
01:23.32Kaeltenguys I've looked at it and that metatable trick wouldn't be worth the overhead
01:23.43ckknightHealth, it's okay, I'm here for you.
01:23.48ckknightKaelten, which trick?
01:24.03Kaeltenthe one to be able to L:HasTranslation()
01:24.31ckknightseems so simple, though.
01:24.44Kaeltenit does but its not really
01:25.00KaeltenI'd have to add a extra function call and pass some hidden arguments
01:25.15Kaeltenwhich is the kinda overhead I've set out to avoid
01:27.15ckknighthrm
01:27.16CIA-1103tekkub * r8755 10Quecho/ (. Core.lua Libs/ Quecho.toc):
01:27.16CIA-11Quecho
01:27.16CIA-11- svn externals and keywords, whee!
01:27.33ckknightokay, but allow for AceLocale:HasTranslation(BS, "Thingy")
01:28.36Kaeltenk, I'll work on adding it in,  I'm going to commit what I have so people can play with it some.
01:28.40ckknightalright
01:29.12Kaeltenalso some hidden variable naming is going to get changed
01:29.16Kaeltenso ignore how ugly they are
01:29.48CIA-1103kaelten * r8756 10Ace2/ (Ace2.toc AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.1.lua):
01:29.48CIA-11Ace2 -
01:29.48CIA-11-- Initial commit of AceLocale-2.1
01:30.12KaeltenI'll start work on adding those few things and working on them
01:31.34CIA-1103kaelten * r8757 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.1.lua:
01:31.34CIA-11Ace2 -
01:31.34CIA-11Keywords added.
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01:34.04ckknight_blah
01:34.06ckknight_<ckknight> AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.1.lua?
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01:37.03Kaeltenckknight: thats a good idea about passing in the object though
01:37.08Kaeltenya thats the new file
01:37.16ckknightit should be in a whole new folder.
01:37.21Kaeltenoh
01:37.26ckknightAceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua
01:37.27KaeltenI'll fix it
01:37.29ckknightk
01:37.42Nightdewwill the icon path be the same for a talent picture no matter the language
01:39.20Jagobahugh
01:39.28Jagobahusing CTRA again is so bad
01:39.58KebinusanThey're taking down realms again yay
01:41.14ckknightNightdew, yes.
01:41.25CIA-1103kaelten * r8758 10Ace2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Ace2 - Moving it to where it should go.
01:41.34Healthsecond yime? :P
01:42.15Kaeltenproper usage of it os to register the translations and then to AceLocale:GetTranslation("addonname")
01:42.25Kaeltenof it is to rather
01:42.36Kaeltenand that returns the translation object
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01:44.28Gamefaq|afkmhh to the problem that the fubarr positions are not saved...I remember there something. i have 2 fubar panels one at top and one bottom of screen, after reloding ui or restart wow the ace2 plugins like squishy and so on donīt know that i put them at bottomright. when i drag them now to the bottomright from top they not only fall at first place of bottomright, they fall in the same place i put them before.
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01:44.48CIA-1103ckknight * r8759 10FuBar/FuBar.toc: FuBar - updated TOC
01:44.49Gamefaq|afkfor me that means that the plugins still know where they belong but the function that should put them again in their place after reloding wow is not working
01:45.20ckknighthey mjc
01:45.26mjchey ck
01:45.37mjcdoes oRA2 use commchannel yet?
01:45.38Kaeltenis anyone having a problem with their leatherowrking not showing up properly post patch?
01:45.44Kebinusanmjc yes
01:45.53mjchmm
01:46.34TainA leather glove!
01:46.36mjcdoes CTRA use it?
01:46.52ckknightCTRA2, apparently
01:46.54Kebinusanthe newest version posted today, yes
01:47.23Armooomjc: I needed to change "1.12" to "1.12.0" in Core.lua and Core-1.12.lua
01:48.23Kaeltenck looked at it at all?
01:48.28FryGuy-uugh
01:48.33mjcArmooo: in what
01:48.46FryGuy-ctra 1.54 uses commchannel i think
01:48.55Armoooon the first line, for oRA2
01:49.00mjck
01:49.24FryGuy-server went down we were alive.. but server soft-reset
01:49.29Kebinusanwell commit that change ;-)
01:49.34FryGuy-so when we got back in trash respawned and we all died
01:49.40mjchaste: ping
01:49.44Kebinusanheh, we couldnt even get into naxx
01:50.32mjcArmooo: I don't see anything like that in oRA2 when I grep for '12'
01:51.14Armooomjc: http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/oRA2/Ammo/oRA2
01:51.18mjcoh
01:53.53ckknightKaelten, working on FuBar right now
01:57.20mjchmm I don't have Crayon-2.0 somehow
01:57.34Industrial~ace forum
01:57.35purli heard ace forum is down yet again
01:57.40IndustrialRONG!
02:00.37dreadlyonemoneyfu and bagfu were just recently ported to ace2 and are now displaying the same sporadic placement issues thats been going around.
02:02.00ckknightokay
02:02.02ckknightI'll check it out
02:02.09ckknightI still have yet to observe this.
02:02.29dreadlyoneyou have only on bar right?
02:03.06dreadlyonei think i saw you mention that somewhere. the people experiencing this have multiple fubars
02:03.41CIA-1103ckknight * r8760 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - now checks if the plugin placements are fucked up.
02:03.43ckknightno, dreadlyone
02:03.47ckknightbeen testing with like 5
02:03.55ckknightokay, that should help
02:03.59ckknightif the DB is fucked up
02:04.03ckknightit checks now
02:04.24dreadlyoneokie dokie
02:08.43ckknightdoes it fuck up?
02:09.55eternally777downloading now ckk
02:10.36KebinusanIts kinda weird ck, they remember their posistion on the proper bar, but get sent to the wrong bar at least for me I'll downloadit and give it a shot
02:10.57eternally777no errors so far
02:11.03ckknightwell, I think it may be due to a fucked up database
02:11.07ckknightwhich it now checks for
02:11.10kergothyeah i hate that.  jumping between the bars
02:11.10Gamefaq|afkTHATS what i mention above....
02:11.27Kebinusank downloading
02:13.53eternally777now it doesn't seem to save positioning
02:14.06Kaeltenckknight: HasTranslation only cares about the current translation?  not the baselocale right?
02:14.11ckknightKaelten, right.
02:14.16Kaeltenkk
02:14.17Thianackknight: It's still not restoring positions with the current svn FuBar
02:14.30Tekkubyea that's has reverse kael
02:18.33Kaeltenok I really don't see the point in offering GetIterator and GetReverseIterator
02:19.37ckknightKaelten, I use it.
02:19.47ckknightthat's why it's in there
02:20.41ckknightin TouristLib, I use it with Babble-Zone
02:20.41Kaeltenhrm
02:21.10Kaeltenok let me test it, I'm not sure if its going to work right with the metatable stuff
02:21.43mjcyay for server crashes
02:22.10Tekkubckk, I still got jumpy plugins
02:22.20ckknightI don't
02:22.25mjcI've had that problem for a few days now
02:22.26Tekkub><
02:22.28ckknighttell me what plugins jump
02:22.30mjcthought itw as the individual plugins
02:22.34mjcteksupport
02:22.39mjcmail
02:22.40Tekkubwhere are positions saved, FuBar or the mod's Savedvars?
02:22.42mjcthe fubar2 ones I have
02:22.45ckknightFuBar itself
02:23.00mjcacewardrobefu
02:23.01ckknightthe mods don't know where they are
02:23.06Kebinusanfubar2 plugins jump 1.2 seem to work fine
02:23.18ckknightmy FuBar 2.0 plugins all work great
02:23.29mjcdurabilityfu
02:23.30Kebinusanminiclockfu, bigwigs, nanostats2
02:23.34CIA-1103thiana * r8761 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (. Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Fixed typo and added AceDebug to externals
02:23.36mjcdeucecommander
02:23.37ckknightLocationFu, PerformanceFu, Bigwigs, ClockFu, all work great
02:23.47mjcninjutfu
02:23.49mjcall my ace2 ones
02:23.49Kebinusanthey remember their posistion when dragged back to the right bar, they just end up on the wrong bar
02:24.04ThianaExperienceFu, MoneyFu, Bigwigs, tcgTradeskills, MailFu
02:24.12ckknightdelete your FuBar SV.
02:24.34ThianaI tried that before and it didnt help, deleted *all* SVs and still the same :(
02:24.43ckknighthrm
02:24.55ckknightwell, only the FuBar SV matters.
02:25.14mjcbugsack
02:25.16Kaeltenckknight:  ok, well I'm not sure how to implement it since pairs(__curTranslation__) doesn't look at the basetranslation at all?
02:25.18Thianackknight: Want my current FuBar SV to play with?
02:25.28ckknightKaelten, that's fine.
02:25.34ckknightThiana, sure
02:25.51ckknightKaelten, it shouldn't look at the base translation
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02:27.03ckknightThiana, also, can I get a list of your current FuBar plugins?
02:27.11Thianak, sec
02:27.13ckknightenabled plugins, that is
02:27.46mjcbigwigs' sync is fuct
02:28.44mjcand wtf should I use w/ oRA2's mt targets :P
02:29.11CIA-1103kaelten * r8762 10Ace2/ (Ace2.toc AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua): Ace2 - Added a few new functions and fixed over sight in the toc file.
02:30.38KebinusanCKnight, I dunno if it helps but all my addons list on the proper panel in my fubar saved variables but still get loaded on the wrong one
02:32.09ThianaMaybe has to do with AceDB not having the db loaded at the time FuBar places the plugins?
02:32.29TekkubI reset my fu savedvar... lets see if it works...
02:32.52ckknightThiana, don't think so
02:33.07ckknighthope not, at least
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02:34.09Kebinusansince it only seems to be fubar2.0 plugins could it be a problem with fubar-plugin-20?
02:34.13mjchm. should I just use oRA1 still? or
02:35.37ckknightKebinusan, problem is, those work perfectly for me.
02:36.56Tekkubsavedvar reset didn't fix it
02:38.00Kebinusanckknight, are any of your test bars detached?
02:38.04ckknightnope
02:38.30Tekkubugh, this is tatally random...
02:38.37Tekkubevery time I reload they all shuffle
02:38.41mjcTekkub: I have it too
02:38.46Tekkubregarless of if I move em or not
02:38.56TekkubI just keep reloading and they're diff each time
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02:39.15Kebinusanckknight, try it witha  detached bar
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02:43.06Tekkubhrm... interesting anomoly
02:43.15Tekkubdetach bar, size it down, attach it
02:43.23Tekkubit doesn't stretch back out
02:43.43ckknightwhy is that an anomoly?
02:43.55ckknightI got another one if you think that's weird:
02:44.05ckknightwith an attached bar, size it down, detach it
02:44.09ckknightomg, it's the same size!
02:44.35ckknightthere be demons about
02:44.36TekkubI thought attached bars were not sizable ,theey always stretch to fill
02:44.40ckknightnope.
02:44.46ckknightthey can be resized
02:44.47Tekkubah, niftay
02:44.52Tekkub><
02:46.36Thrae"ParySpotter" by Telic looks like a pretty damn cool mod.
02:47.12ckknightwhat's that?
02:47.15ThraeOnly 62KB including localization for its files.
02:47.38ckknightdoesn't tell me what it is
02:47.49Tekkubugh... randomness FTL
02:48.10Thraeckknight: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4389
02:48.55ThraeIt has highlighting, coloring, and numbering options for raid member icons on the World Map, Minimap, and a few custom Map frames.
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02:50.03ThraeRophy: Sneaking in a little IRC at work? ;)
02:50.26Rophylol ya :p
02:51.09Rophyhow's the code conversion?
02:51.25Rophythat's a lot of work :\
02:51.58ThraeI hit a block and needed to procratinate as my subconscious worked on the problem.
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02:52.46ckknight_whenever I svn up, my connection always disconnects
02:52.48ckknight_gah
02:52.58Thraeckknight: Sounds like a bad router
02:53.29ckknight_maybe.
02:56.14ThraeRophy: I was poking at your code until I realized that using events like "HitSelfOther" defeats the purpose of separating out the event, it should be "Parser_SubEvent_WoWEvent". So "Parser_HitOtherSelf_CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_FRIENDLYPLAYER_HITS" would only register for that WoW Event and only look for HitOtherSelf (if that's the only thing registered).
02:57.02ThraeRophy: This way the event naming API has to be changed slightly, as registering all custom events becomes "Parser_All_WoWEvent"
02:57.30ThraeI'm looking at your code and I know there's an easy way to do this with what you have, it just hasn't dawned on me yet.
02:57.56Kebinusanok I can see there is going to need to be a way to rescale / alpha the interface otpions ugh
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03:00.54Tekkubckk, funny thing abou the jumpy bug
03:01.02ckknight_Tekkub, what's that?
03:01.07Tekkubif I have a plugin set for a certain spot on a bar...
03:01.13Tekkuband then it jumps to a diff bar
03:01.24Tekkubwhen I move it back to it's bar, it goes to the right spot
03:01.31ckknight_hrm
03:01.34ckknight_yes, I heard that
03:01.51Tekkubso Fu _is_ remembering where it's sposda be
03:01.57Tekkubit's just not putting it there...
03:01.58ckknight_I still need to reproduce it
03:02.04ckknight_if I can reproduce it, I can fix it
03:02.07ThraeIs there a library that gives additional information about a SPELLCAST_START event, like its target?
03:02.14Tekkubyea I know...
03:02.21RophyThrae what do you mean "defauts the purpose of separating out the events" ?
03:02.27Rophydefeats*
03:02.28Tekkubyou're running with the 1.2 compat on, right?
03:03.55Tekkubidea ckk
03:04.22RophyThrae: Parser_X_BzEvent will results in like 200 permutations I think?
03:04.23ThraeRophy: Because HitSelfOther could apply to more then one WoW Event. Hence I'm just making sure that if someone only wants to check for input from ONE CHAT_MSG Event, that's the only event registered. Anyway, this will keep the Custom Event list similiar to ParserLib's original intention.
03:04.27Tekkuba hackjob fix, like Cork's rescan... something we can hit to have Fu try to set plugins in the spot they should be on load
03:05.48Kebinusantek, does it still hapen if you disable the compat 1.2
03:05.49CIA-1103pprovost * r8763 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_PoisonFu.toc):
03:05.50CIA-11FuBar_PoisonFu:
03:05.50CIA-11- Updated TOC
03:05.50CIA-11- Added quantity of item buffs to menu
03:05.50CIA-11- Removed some debug calls I wasn't using
03:05.59RophyI'm not sure if that worths the slightly gain in speed for the effort.
03:06.03mjcany damage meters that sync thata nyone likes? :P
03:06.07dreadlyonei was looking at the fubar sv and it seems that the same addon plugin is showing up in every bar. for example, Panel 1 will have bagfu, panel 2, bagfu in the positions we save them
03:06.31Thraemjc: SW Stats is gaining over the old DamageMeters
03:06.51mjcI'd prefer ti to be aced :P
03:07.08Firedancerprobably because dandelion (dmgmtr author) has stopped developing DM ;p
03:07.11ThraeThere is no Ace'd version of DamageMeters, yet. I wanted to make one once Parser-2.0 is done.
03:08.00eternally777plz do, I'm begging.
03:10.00mjcBW's sync is broken as well
03:10.05ckknight_okay, I reproduced it
03:10.09CIA-1103kyahx * r8764 10oRA/oRA_CoreLocals.lua: oRA Core: Pretend we are CTRA v1.54, not v1.539.
03:10.26Kyahxmjc: you sure?  I thought i fixed it
03:10.37KebinusanKyahx, your fix worked for me
03:10.47ThraeRophy: But the way you currently have ParserLib designed, it looks like it should be easy. I think I can just go into LoadPatternList and convert the static tables into dynamic tables, where "HitOtherOther" is only loaded for CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILEPLAYER_HITS if AceEvent:IsEventRegistered("Parser_HitOtherOther_CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILEPLAYER_HITS")
03:10.49mjcsome of my other friends w/ older versions seem to be causing mine to bomb
03:10.58Kyahxmake them updated
03:11.04Kyahxupdate*
03:11.04mjcI am going to
03:11.09mjcI provide the mod pack ;P
03:11.10Kyahx:P
03:11.21KyahxYea, I had that same problem today, heh
03:11.38KyahxWe had half the raid running new CTRA / oRA, and the other half running old
03:11.40ThraeRophy: If the pattern doesn't exist in ParserLib.eventTable, then it just isn't parsed, right?
03:11.43RophyThrae the conversion is easy, but the events are too complicated at user end, and I doubt you'll have noticable gains in speed by separating the pattern list so thin.
03:11.50Rophyyup.
03:11.52KyahxThe crying for main tanks was a mess :P
03:12.35Firedancerwe didn't have that prob so much as  bossmods not telling ppl when ony was going to DB ><
03:12.41ThraeRophy: People who want to register for all events can just use "Parser_All_CHAT_MSG_HOSTILEPLAYER_HITS", which will act almost exactly like Parser-1.0
03:12.59Kyahxbleh, new Bongos is pissing me off.  Its not respecing my keybindings
03:13.26Rophyhmm then if I register Parser_All_X and Parser_SelfHitSelf_X, I wil get duplicated event for a blizzard event?
03:14.27ThraeRophy: The duplicate event code is easy, I just update a counter and unregister the Blizzard event when the counter hits 0
03:14.49ThraeI took that out of CombLib, it worked there
03:14.51RophyI mean, the user end will receive 2 events for one Blizzard event?
03:14.58ckknight_yes
03:15.14RophyActually I'm not worry about the conversion, I just dun want the events to be so complicated from the user view :p
03:15.54RophyIn case we're defining events which overlaps.
03:16.50RophyHow about finshing  Parser_Hit, Parser_Miss first, those can be finished very quickly, and also prevents the passing of info table.
03:17.31Firedancerkyahx: tuller has updated it like 4 times today. might want to check that he hasn't fixed it again since you DLd it :p
03:17.33ThraeRophy: Well, there's two ways of handling that. A) We have Parser_All_WoWEvent register the addon for multiple custom events all with the same handler. b) Trigger two events.
03:17.41KyahxFiredancer: ah, ty
03:17.58FiredancerI think the last changelog said somethign about keybinds, but not sure
03:18.01RophyJust trigger two events to simplify it IMO.
03:18.34RophyI seriously doubt the gain in speed for spreading so thin.
03:18.57eternally777Tonight, I replaced several of my regular mods with new 1.12 Ace2 mods, and decreased my increasing memory rate by over 40KiB/s.  I'm a believer.
03:19.16Kyahxlol
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03:21.23KyahxRophy: your modified MCP is fantatstic BTW
03:22.22Rophy:D
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03:22.28ThraeI think MCP should come up with "Screw Saien, long live Rophy!" when it initializes.
03:22.46Firedancerlol
03:22.50Tekkubfunny blizzard bug
03:22.52RophyI dun want to maintain it nor 'declare me the new author' :p
03:22.56FiredancerI like the changes that Toadkiller has put into Autobar
03:23.08Tekkubout of focus game doesn't mute sound until about PEW or so
03:23.22Firedancerloadit was being a PITA to me the other day...perhaps I shall dl rophy's MCP :D
03:23.44ThraeTekkub: It actually mutes sound now?
03:23.59Tekkubeh...
03:24.11Tekkubyou know how if you alt-tab WoW stops making sound....
03:24.12ThraeOh, Out-Of-Focus, not ALT+TAB.
03:24.28Tekkubif you alt-tab during loadup or reload it still makes sounds
03:24.47Tekkubuntil around the tim PEW fires, then it stops
03:25.21ThraeOh, so the intermittent bug hasn't been fixed
03:25.55ThraeUsed to be when you ALT+TAB'd and came back, it would reset the Master Volume to 100%
03:29.07KemayoMCP?
03:30.37Firedancermaster control panel is what is is short for I think. lets you enable.disable addons while ingame ...like LoadIT and maybe another mod
03:31.11TekkubModMenu
03:34.42Firedancerkyahx: re the changes you made to bw and ora enough to make it work properly with the new channel stuff and the new ctra version? I really hate ctra but I don't like not having any raid stuff enabled either :D
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03:41.06Amadeoargh
03:41.12AmadeoHonorFu being broken is the worst thing ever
03:42.04KemayoActually, the Holocaust was the worst thing ever.
03:42.15KemayoHonorFu being broken is a close second, I admit.
03:43.32Amadeoone day
03:43.44Amadeowhen you ask someone what they thought of the holocaust
03:43.53Amadeothey'll ask you if that was a Star Trek episode
03:44.19hyperChipmunkhonorfu wfm
03:44.26mjcalready had that happen to me once ama
03:44.26hyperChipmunkjust turn off the tooltip stuff
03:44.47Amadeocan you?
03:45.16Amadeomjc: :(
03:45.46AmadeoI don't think there's an option for it, hyperChipmunk
03:47.25Amadeooh pff
03:47.28Amadeoit's in the fubar dropdown
03:47.28Amadeohaha
03:47.30Amadeonevermind
03:48.14AmadeoI was even about to comment out shit in the .lua
03:48.15Amadeo:
03:48.16Amadeo:P
03:48.34CIA-1103pprovost 07PProvost * r8765 10FuBar_ClockFu/FuBar_ClockFu.toc: FuBar_ClockFu: Updated TOC in fixed private branch
03:49.00Kemayo...the new interface options screen feels so out of place.
03:49.09PProvostHey ckknight_, that branch has a fixed FuBar_ClockFu that has the COLOR bug fixed and localized properly if you want it.
03:49.19Amadeoit does
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03:51.11Firedanceri hate the new interface options screen
03:51.50Firedancerit's too big and intrusive. it needs to be small and semi-transparent again. I don't need fonts the size of my head to read everything :p
03:51.53kergothi think everyone does
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03:54.07Kebinusanheh
03:57.50mjcdurabilityfu's tooltip is fuct
03:58.07mjc4%d h 49%d m
03:58.26eternally771PerformanceFu suffers from that too mjc
03:58.34mjcI meant perf
03:58.35eternally771At the time until GC display.
03:58.45mjcnot dur
03:58.47mjc< dumb
03:59.05eternally771oh ok
04:01.37hastemjc: pong
04:02.24Thianamjc, It's abacus doing that.
04:02.28mjchaste: does oRA1 work w/ 1.12 at all or should i just bug you for a list of stuff to finish w/ oRA1
04:02.32mjcThiana: ah
04:02.52hastemjc: I think Kyahx is going to fix oRA1, while Ammo fixes oRA2
04:02.59mjcah
04:03.24hasteI don't have much time for add ons untill I find myself a new flat
04:04.14Tekkub*asks the stupid question* is there a version of oRA that works with the new CTRA?
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04:04.26Tekkub*then scrolls up two lines*
04:06.11ThianaHmm, where do I get the FrameXML for 1.12?
04:06.26MentalPowerBlizzard tool
04:07.03ThraeThiana: or wdn.wowinterface.com
04:07.05hastehttp://wdn.wowinterface.com/
04:07.08hastedamn you Thrae !
04:07.21ThianaThanks :)
04:08.14MentalPowerhttp://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p
04:09.51ThianaWell that explains why Abacus is broken. They changed the *_ONELETTER_ABBR consts to be "%d d"/etc instead of just "d"
04:15.15Kemayo...this new auto-quest-watch thing is a bit buggy.  I'm watching a quest twice now.
04:22.36CIA-1103thiana * r8766 10AbacusLib/Abacus-2.0/Abacus-2.0.lua: Abacus-2.0: Fix for the changed *_ONELETTER_ABBR globals in 1.12
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04:30.12CIA-1103thrae 07Thrae * r8767 10ParserLib/Parser-2.0/Parser-2.0.lua: Parser-2.0 (Thrae branch) - Uploaded rest of AceEvent-i-fying and tweaks, waiting on next Rophy version. This is an unfinished version.
04:31.45Kyahx*yawn*
04:32.13Kyahxmjc: oRA1 should work with new CTRA fine
04:32.18mjck
04:32.24KyahxI uploaded the fix quite a few hours ago :P
04:32.41ThraeoRA1 uses SendAddonMessage now?
04:33.12Kyahxas of like 5 hours ago, yes :P
04:33.29KyahxI didnt test it much, our raid got cut short due to server restarts
04:33.31CIA-1103tekkub * r8768 10ParserLib/ParserLib.toc: ParserLib.toc- Embed libs still need a TOC for their standalone version ><
04:33.39Kyahxbut it all *seems* to work
04:34.02mjcoRA_Cooldowns still needs a 'search for cooldown' thing
04:34.10mjcor oCD needs to support it to show the raids cooldowns
04:34.44kergothfuck, i didnt back up one of my python scripts that i use to maintain my addon set
04:34.47kergothnow to recode it
04:34.49Kyahxboo that
04:35.21Thraekergoth: Ever look at PartySpotter? It looks like a newer version of RaidMap, with more features and support for custom map frames.
04:35.37ThraeAnd you also reminded me I still need make that cron script.
04:36.19kergothThrae: thats what i'm using now
04:37.56ThraeWhat MapNotes replacement does everyone use?
04:40.24KemayoI have Kurzen Medicine Men.
04:40.37Kemayos/have/hate
04:42.58Thiana~seen ckknight
04:43.06purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-102.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 55m 28s ago, saying: 'doesn't tell me what it is'.
04:43.19Thiana~seen ckknight_
04:43.21purlckknight_ is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 51m 7s) #wowace (1h 51m 7s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 1h 28m 23s, last said: 'yes'.
04:47.26CIA-1103pprovost * r8769 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
04:47.26CIA-11FuBar_PoisonFu:
04:47.26CIA-11- Consolidated localization files into one file per lanaguage. (Only English right now, but ready for more if someone wants to help.)
04:47.26CIA-11- Added missing Ace2 dependencies to Lib and TOC to enable non-FuBar usage
04:47.26CIA-11- Main-Hand and Off-Hand menu items say "No XXX Weapon Equipped" when nothing equipped.
04:47.28CIA-11- Renamed ShowTooltip() to ShowGameTooltip()
04:59.46eternally771Aright all, I'm off to bed
04:59.49eternally771Take it easy.
05:06.17Kebinusanis there some chat mod on the svn to hide the chatwindow buttons and such
05:06.58Kebinusanif anyone knows, Im being lazy I could go look
05:07.04ThraeKebinusan: Minimalist or idChat
05:07.15ThraeNeither of which are on the SVN, both of which are on WoWI
05:07.30KebinusanI think I want to get rid of chatmod
05:07.36ThraeKebinusan: ChatBox?
05:07.48ThraeNever heard of "ChatMod"
05:07.59Kebinusanused to be Sol's Color Chat Nicks or something
05:08.31ThianaThrae, idChatButtons on the svn does that.
05:08.50ThraeI didn't know it was on the SV--oh right, Industrial's addons are ONLY on the SVN.
05:09.16ThraeKebinusan: I'd take a look at Minimalist, it also does Timestamps and a bunch of other tiny stuff.
05:09.24ThraeAnd it's an Ace addon.
05:09.44CIA-1103tekkub * r8770 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (ADCommission.lua ClassHunterPetHappy.lua):
05:09.44CIA-11FuBar_CorkFu
05:09.44CIA-11- Fixed icon in AD Commision module
05:09.44CIA-11- Feed Pet module will no longer show pet as needing fed when it is eating
05:10.25TekkubChatScroll might
05:10.31Tekkubor there's always Visor :P
05:10.34Kebinusanyeah I'll check out minimalist
05:16.06PProvostHey Tekkub, are there any plans to let a user disable any spell for CorkFu? When I'm in small parties, I like to just click the button in the panel until it stops buffing. :) But as a mage I end up getting a mana-shield at the end, which I  don't like to cast that way. So I'd like to disable mana shield.
05:16.09PProvostDoes that make sense?
05:16.58Tekkubtry looking at the options menu before you request shit
05:17.01ThraePProvost: That's been in the options since the beginning
05:17.14PProvostEasy man... I looked and didn't find it. My bad.
05:17.35Tekkub:P
05:17.39ThraePProvost: When you click on a unit, it turns into a checkmark, an X, or nothing. Just set your name to X for ManaShield
05:18.50KemayoI <3 woot.com
05:21.37PProvostOk, I found it, but to be honest that wasn't the most easily discovered feature in the world. All the other ones have a disabled/enabled radio, Mana Shield doesn't.
05:28.35CIA-1103kemayo * r8771 10FuBar_KungFu/FuBar_KungFu.toc: FuBar_KungFu: Update TOC for 11200.
05:28.51CIA-1103kemayo * r8772 10FuBar_QuestsFu/FuBar_QuestsFu.toc: FuBar_QuestsFu: Update TOC for 11200.
05:29.01CIA-1103kemayo * r8773 10FuBar_ToFu/FuBar_ToFu.toc: FuBar_ToFu: Update TOC for 11200.
05:29.17CIA-1103kemayo * r8774 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.toc: AuldLangSyne: Update TOC for 11200.
05:29.34ckknight_hey all
05:29.35ckknight_back
05:29.41CIA-1103yzerman * r8775 10OneView/locals.lua: OneView - Updated Chinese Translation
05:29.46ckknight_went to a Rotary meeting
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05:32.55CodayusHeh, from a conversation about RAD:  "Rad?  I prefer PAD.  *PROPER* Application Development."
05:32.59Codayus(Paraphrased.)
05:33.48ckknightlol.
05:33.54ckknightRAD's important, though
05:35.37CodayusTrue.
05:35.37Laricnice euro patch is up now
05:35.41CodayusIt just amused me.
05:36.42CIA-1103kyahx 07Ammo * r8776 10oRA2/oRA2/ (Core-1.12.lua Core.lua): oRA2: Proper 1.12.0 detection, not that it will matter soon :P
05:36.54Kyahxnight
05:36.56ckknightsoon?
05:37.04ckknightg'night, Kyahx|afk
05:38.13ArrowmasteroRA doesnt seem to be working properly with the changes for 1.54
05:39.44Laricckknight saw you commited locales-2.1 whats new?
05:42.13ckknightLaric, Kaelten did, actually. It's basically just optimized with slightly different syntaxes and such
05:42.35ckknightI need to hack on it a bit
05:42.39ckknightdon
05:42.42ckknightdon't use it yet
05:43.57Laricokidoki
05:44.17Laricany 'hidden' changes in 1.12 that might break something?
05:45.35ckknightprobably not in Ace2
05:45.46ckknightbut UnitName should be the only breakage, really.
05:46.47Gngskwelcome back ck
05:46.51ThianaUnitName change?
05:47.12Thrae01:55 < Thrae> UnitName now has 2 returns when in a raid.
05:47.29ckknightthat's it
05:47.49ThianaWhat is the second? The raidunit?
05:48.00Thraename, server
05:48.04ThraeFor new cross-realm BGs
05:48.11ThianaAh. Thanks
05:48.23ThraeBut only when in a raid, as you must be in a raid if you're in a BG.
05:49.45ThraeI wonder, though, why they didn't have UnitName only return 2 values if you're in a BG, not just if you're in a raid. Maybe they're going to add cross-realm dungeon instances?
05:50.40ThraeThat would be a nice addition...well, after it breaks the servers for a week or two.
05:55.42Laricbut that shouldnt be any breakage now should it? name = UnitName("player") should work as before right?
06:11.38CIA-1103fryguy * r8777 10FryListDKP/ (FryListDKP.lua parse.php): FryListDKP: Require shift-alt for viewing the item dropout. Add a lastupdate time to a player's item list. Update the parse.php script to be compatable with the current version (sorry, I forgot to do this last time)
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06:16.52Arrowmasterits not just if in a raid, its only returns 2 values if the person isnt from your realm
06:17.20CIA-1103fryguy * r8778 10FryListDKP/parse.php: FryListDKP: Small fix in parse.php
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06:26.16dreyruugrAnyone here used dewdrop?
06:27.10ckknightI've used it, now and again
06:28.29ckknightI mean, I'm no guru
06:28.31dreyruugrhha
06:28.37ckknightyou'd have to like, talk to the creator or something
06:28.45dreyruugrI know who wrote it... didn't know you were here :)
06:29.05ThianaO.o
06:29.11ckknight:-P
06:30.07dreyruugrIt's described as a "DropDown" interface... but from what I'm reading in the API that's not in the sense of a blizzard UIDropDownMenuTemplate is it?
06:30.26ckknightsure it is
06:30.30ckknightit looks the same
06:30.52ckknightput a Blizzard menu next to a Dewdrop menu and they'll look the same
06:31.03ckknightexcept that Dewdrop will be better, faster, and more featureful
06:31.23dreyruugrThat goes for the XML button?
06:31.35ckknightXML button?
06:31.39dreyruugri.e. a nice graphical box with an arrow on the right side
06:31.46Laricckknight about dewdrop is it possible to make it not crap out totally when for instance 'desc' is missing in an aceoptions table? since aceconsole lives with it perhaps dewdrop should not crash without it
06:32.12ckknightno.
06:32.16dreyruugrlike, the "Camera Following Style" box in the interface options panel
06:32.17ckknightput a description.
06:32.26ckknightworst case scenario, make it equal to the name
06:32.27dreyruugrif you happen to have wow open
06:32.36ckknightdreyruugr, oh, make your own button.
06:32.48ckknightDewdrop just handles the menu itself
06:33.02dreyruugrAhh, that clears the confusion :)
06:33.03oxmanhi
06:33.22ckknighthey, oxman
06:33.29oxmanany news about ora and 1.12 ? ora not ora2
06:34.04oxmanhum ok Kyahx|afk said yes
06:34.08oxmanthanks Kyahx|afk
06:34.29ckknighthttp://bash.org/?670270
06:35.25oxman? :p
06:38.29ckknighthttp://bash.org/?669955
06:48.36ckknighthttp://qdb.us/62085 <-- lol
06:59.34Thianackknight: Any luck reproducing the plugin placement problem?
06:59.40ckknightyes, Thiana
06:59.49ckknightbut I am currently doing something much more important
06:59.52ckknightreading qdb.
06:59.56Thianackknight: lol
07:01.56ckknightI'll get to it, though
07:03.32Gngsk<3
07:05.41Lariclots of drycoding today I guess. no servers for another 7 hours...
07:21.26dreyruugrckknight: What would be the easiest way the change the overall opacity of a dewdrop menu?
07:21.37ckknightno way that I know of
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07:22.49dreyruugrThe radio buttons blend in a bit well on some backgrounds
07:30.31CIA-1103saroz * r8779 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Add default value to Spacing, sorry :(
07:32.05CIA-1103thrae * r8780 10ThraeFuncs/ThraeDruid.lua: ThraeDruid - Now suppresses UIErrorFrame message when using ThraeDruid_Travel.
07:32.19evlckknight: Quick question, is autoattack dead in the water? I installed it yesterday but it never loaded
07:32.43ckknightsorta.
07:32.48ckknightI don't plan on working on it
07:32.57ckknightbut anyone is free to take the code and do what they please
07:33.24evlVery helpful to keep my dps up in small instances :)
07:36.52oxmansomeone know rdx5 ?
07:40.36evlckknight: you wouldn't happen to remember whats missing from making auto attack work? :)
07:41.33ckknightno, it worked last time I tried
07:41.52Arrowmasteri used it a while back but then SEE got changed and it started giving errors
07:42.09CIA-1103thrae * r8781 10/branches/GooeyFigs/: GooeyFigs - Copied remotely (oops, what's this doing in trunk still)
07:42.24CIA-1103thrae * r8782 10GooeyFigs/: GooeyFigs - Removed file/folder
07:43.11ThraeOK, I think I just killed the SVN.
07:43.43ThraeOr, I should say, I just screwed up the SVN. Hmmm...
07:45.28ThraeAh wait there we go. TortoiseSVN gave me a heartattack for a moment, I thought I overwrote /branches.
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07:46.42oxmanhi maia
07:46.51maiaheya
07:47.01yacoob*boggle*
07:47.21yacoobin the meantime, can anyone shed some lights on Visor and textures settings? :)
07:47.43ckknightI wonder how hard it'd be to pull off being an exotic dancer...
07:47.47ckknight(male)
07:48.09yacoobI tried yesterday to set either tx or bd to BlackBackground file that came with VisorGUI - getting an error with SetTexture...
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07:56.07maiackknight: want me to keep bugging you regarding the two FuBarPlugin / Tablet issues I posted on flyspray, or are you planning to take care of them anyway? :)
07:56.27ckknightI may or may not have seen them
07:57.15maiaone is the old "you cannot detach to an unregistered frame" on login.
07:57.32maiathe other one is a new option for detached tooltips: hideWhenEmpty
07:57.53maiathe first one is quite a pain though.
07:58.49ckknightit's impossible to implement hideWhenEmpty
07:58.52ckknighttechnically
07:59.09ckknightcause you can't actually check whether you added lines
07:59.29kergothanyone determine whether the fubar plugin jumping between bars bug is fixed?
07:59.37maiackknight: oh. then please take a quick look at http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1934.0.html as I'd love to know how to access the tablet
08:00.03ckknightnot fixed yet.
08:00.09ckknightI had to go to a Rotary meeting
08:00.18ckknightand now that I'm back, I don't feel like fixing it right now
08:00.22kergothhehe
08:00.24maiackknight: aka, whats the parent, and whats the correct way of using tablet methods for detached tooltips.
08:00.29ckknighti.e. I need more carbs
08:01.14ckknightmaia, the parent is addon.frame
08:01.42maiainteresting, because I'm told that thte detached tooltips are parented to UIParent
08:02.05maiackknight: and how do I use the methods?
08:02.20maiatablet:Set...?
08:02.20ckknighttablet:SetTransparency(self.frame, 0.5)
08:02.37maiaokay, I'll try that. thanks.
08:02.40ckknight:GetParent() is not the _real_ tablet parent ;-)
08:02.43ckknightso you know
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08:02.50maia:)
08:03.03ThraeWhat's a good mod to remember the order of channels you've joined?
08:03.19ckknightmorning, Lieutenant Commander Worf
08:03.25Worfmorning fellow addicts
08:03.35kergothmeh, i'm havving a hell of a time finding a group for anything in wow tonight
08:03.38kergothtoo damn quiet
08:03.42[Ammo]mornng
08:03.43WorfThrae: i don't have any, channels are remembered anyway
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08:04.23tumetommorning
08:04.31maia<PROTECTED>
08:04.42[Ammo]wowa
08:04.45[Ammo]that's a lot :)
08:04.53tumetomdo the server ru stable after the patch?
08:05.04ThraeWorf: I have an addon that is sometimes faster registering its channel then joining General, Trade, etc.
08:05.17maiathe normal problems on day1.
08:05.18WorfThrae: eek ;)
08:05.21ThraeUsually happens every other patch or so my channels will get screwed up.
08:05.21gnorlishUS servers were blown up for most of the day
08:05.32gnorlishcurrently still semi-borked
08:05.34ckknightThrae, what channel?
08:06.18Thraeckknight: MyRoleplay
08:06.24ckknightah.
08:06.28ckknightgo bitch at the author.
08:06.57Worfwell, the ctra/ora channel is history now, right? i cann feel the problems arising... that'll be phantom limb pain then, right?
08:07.12tumetomwow's channel/chat system suxx
08:07.46ThraeOh this is wonderful KC_Items doesn't like tablet
08:08.07tumetomdoes ora1 support the new hidden channel?
08:08.21ThraeI'm getting spammed with "Bad Code, Not A String!" when mousing over any Tablet frame.
08:09.01ThraeAh wait, KCItems is just -one- of the addons hooking this function...
08:09.07[Ammo]yeah oRA1 from svn supports new hidden channel
08:09.17ThraeYep, it wasn't KCItems.
08:09.20Jagobahyay
08:09.27JagobahoRA2 still functional?
08:09.31[Ammo]I think so
08:09.33Jagobah(or is ityet?)
08:09.37Jagobahcool I'll give it a try!
08:09.41[Ammo]might be some barfing on attemptng to hook unexisting scripts
08:09.58JagobahoRA2 (o'')b
08:10.07[Ammo]so I'll have to use manual hooking instead of acehook I guess, because sometimes those scripts are there because someone else hooked em :)
08:10.26Jagobahyou are a box of ammo
08:10.32Jagobah<3
08:10.53[Ammo]the maintankframes aren't really frames though :)
08:10.57[Ammo]some textures may appear :)
08:11.02[Ammo]if you turn on a toggle in the file :)
08:11.23Jagobah=]
08:12.14oxmanmaintankframes isn't the same addon as ora ?
08:12.24Laricto bad you don't have to 'subscribe' to a prefix to get the messages from SendAddonMessage
08:12.35oxman+100000000000000000000000000 Laric
08:13.00Laricoxman?
08:13.01oxmanwe'll get lots of dirty message on raid channel if someone use a stupid addon :(
08:13.07Laricexactly
08:13.15Laricktm for instance.. I dont want the spam
08:13.24oxmanand it's why i don't like actually this channel
08:14.05Laricwhat I do like about it is that I dont get 'please broadcast channel' spam all the time
08:14.13oxmanbut i don't know if it's possible to do that
08:14.27oxmanbecause there is an infinite prefix for addon message
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08:14.41oxmanso i thinks it can be an exploit on server
08:14.47oxmanmemory leak etc
08:15.00ckknightLaric, you do with AceComm
08:15.20Laricckknight I still get all the spam over my line
08:15.25ckknighttrue.
08:15.35ckknightjust hope they throttle.
08:15.35Laricthats what I dont want.
08:15.59Laricsome ppl play with very small lines and might get congested with too much spam
08:16.09oxmanyep
08:16.09Laricand they can't even avoid it anymore
08:16.13Thraeckknight: FuBar-compat-1.2.lua is dying immediately for me, is this a new issue?
08:16.18Thraes/new/known/
08:16.20oxmanand it's very bad
08:16.29oxmanmy bandwith will be increased a lots :(
08:16.30ckknightThrae, no...
08:16.46ckknightand dying immediately doesn't help
08:16.54ckknightI need, like, an error message
08:18.07Thraeckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/371 <-- makes no sense to me
08:19.39CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r8784 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/Version.lua: oRA2: bugfix in version module
08:19.39ckknightThrae, basically, for some reason, Ace didn't load right, maybe?
08:20.00evlHow's the new Blizzard scrolling text?
08:20.21Thraeckknight: My other Ace addons loaded without error.
08:20.50ThraeMinimalist, Visor, and VisorGUI are the only Ace1.x addons I have left.
08:21.35CIA-1103ckknight * r8785 10FuBar-compat-1.2/FuBar-compat-1.2.lua: FuBar-compat-1.2 - possible bugfix
08:22.43ThraeThanks, I did a good bit of troubleshooting before thinking it was FuBar-compat-1.2 itself.
08:23.06ThraeThat error message baffled me, it looked like all of Ace or Ace2 died.
08:23.34ckknightit's a _possible_ bugfix
08:23.37ckknightI just guessed.
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08:27.00ThraeDammit, MyRoleplay is still registering its channels too early
08:27.29Thraeckknight: Still saying AceEvent is nil
08:27.44ckknightThrae, something fucked Ace.
08:27.54ckknight:-P
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08:30.07maiackknight: thanks, SetTransparency() works like a charm
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08:30.27ckknightmaia, btw, I figured out what you're asking for, and I'll add it
08:30.34ckknightthe hideWhenEmpty thing
08:30.38maiaoh. nice.
08:30.44kergothmeh, need to rewrite my svkco.py script, the script that does a checkout from svk and handles externals, converting the urls into the local mirror paths in the depot
08:30.46maiathen I can remove my transparency code again
08:30.54ckknighthehe
08:31.03ckknightsvn down for anyone?
08:31.13[Ammo]probably is
08:31.16[Ammo]it's 10:30
08:31.22[Ammo]either it's very slow or it's down
08:31.25maiackknight: and any idea how to circumvent the error when logging in with a detached tooltip? thats the only reason I'm not providing Detox to anyone outside the SVN at the moment.
08:31.36Worfdamn. just wanted to update oRA1
08:31.40ckknightdon't know how to reproduce
08:32.35maiackknight: install Detox, detach tooltip. log off. log on. boom.
08:33.13maiackknight: seems as if the detach method is being called to early, as someone noted on flyspray that adding a 0.1 sec delay to that function solves the problem.
08:33.32ckknightthat'd work :-P
08:33.41maia;)
08:34.10ckknighthehe.
08:34.14ThraeHmmmm
08:34.15ckknightI knew that'd upset you, kergoth
08:34.26ckknightSVN's down.
08:34.30kergothupset is an understatement :)
08:34.34maiayay, finally a solution! :)
08:34.51kergoththats the sort of thing that brings about the ole impulse to strangle people
08:34.58kergothbad developer, bad! no cookie for you!
08:35.05kergoth~remulate
08:35.06purlI am a _perfectly_ normal human worm baby
08:35.11ckknightmy bet is that a 0-second (i.e. 1-frame) delay would work as well.
08:35.51ThraeFubar-compat-1.2 isn't on WoWI?
08:36.03ckknightit's included with FuBar 2.0
08:36.05kergothits in the fubar zip
08:36.31ThraeAh, I was using SVN.
08:36.48ckknightdammit, Thrae, why do you have to break the SVN so often?
08:37.35ThraeHey, I just wanted to download all of the SVN multiple times on patch day! What's the harm in that!
08:37.49[Ammo]only multiple times?
08:38.01[Ammo]I have the thing running in a multifork while()
08:39.03evlperformance killer app crap shit hell integated fuck shit
08:39.23evl"You gain another shit from windfury!"
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08:46.21evlOh
08:46.22evlI fixed it .)
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08:48.23Thraeckknight: Still giving me same error as before with only Ace 1.3, Fubar 2.0, and Fubar-compat-1.2 enabled, all fresh from WoWI
08:48.40ckknightThrae, SVN is down, I have a fix.
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08:50.29Mikmahmm yes. 2-16 .. 14h downtime for EU
08:51.49Thraeckknight: Ah wait I fixed it, I had Ace 1.3 instead of Ace 1.3.1, I must have reloaded the wrong version of Ace1.x.
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08:54.30ckknightodd
08:55.20FtH|eaglegood morning
08:56.28ckknightmorning, eagle
08:56.32[Ammo]lo
08:57.35FtH|eaglehow is the patch working for you guys, heard many rumours about bugs? :P
08:57.54Worfthere are no bugs. just features
08:58.00[Ammo]working as intended?
08:58.46Worfwell, i'm in EU, gotta wait for the servers being up
08:58.59[Ammo]5 hours to go
08:59.25Worfi've got enough to do anyway...
09:00.00[Ammo]just hope the svn decides to respond soon :)
09:00.08Worfand my svn update will take a view more hours to update oRA if it continues updating at the speed it does right now :)
09:00.25Worf[Ammo]: i just got one file updated. just took 30min
09:01.00Worfi could have typed the changes myself in that time tough
09:01.18FtH|eaglesvn works for me
09:01.23FtH|eaglecurrently updating all my addons
09:02.57kergothworks here too, just synced my mirror
09:03.07[Ammo]yay
09:03.09[Ammo]it works again
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09:05.38Kebinusanyeah us servers were down forever and unstable when they came back up so I hope your patch goes smoother
09:05.47[Ammo]we'll see
09:06.00[Ammo]just happy I don't have to raid tonight
09:06.06CIA-1103ckknight * r8787 10FuBar-compat-1.2/FuBar-compat-1.2.lua: FuBar-compat-1.2 - bugfix for an impossible case.
09:06.16CIA-1103ckknight * r8788 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - fixed :GetTitle() method
09:06.25Icerothpatches are never smooth in eu
09:06.37oxmand
09:06.40kergothfunny how those impossible cases end up happening.  nothing better than an app erroring out with "This should never happen" or somesuch :D
09:07.06tumetomhmpf... aq40 raid tonight...
09:07.36kergothmeh, i miss having a guild.  i should finish my ony attunement and apply to a new one
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09:07.45phyberBah, lies! Patches are smooth, BWL doesn't lag and CMs respond in a timely manner.
09:08.03Icerothin what universe do you live in?
09:08.24phyberthe one where Blizzard paid me to tell you that, but they just took the money back because it didn't work.
09:09.59wereHamsterhow long did the maintenance take on the US servers? more than 12 hours?
09:11.42gnorlishfor a couple of the battlegroups, planned downtime was extended to 12 or 13 hours
09:11.47Kebinusan3am - 4 pm pst + a couple restarts after that
09:11.52Kebinusanfor the normal realms
09:11.53gnorlishit ended up being more than 16
09:11.57CodayuswereHamster: Didn't pay attention, my server was one of like...6 which was up at like...noon.
09:12.05gnorlishand servers are still not stable after 24
09:12.49gnorlishmy guild decided to go to bwl without me and had to give up when the vael encounter wouldn't trigger
09:13.03gnorlishthey tried to go to MC and half the guild died in lava b/c the instance was crashed
09:13.25CodayusDid ZG.
09:13.25gnorlishthis was after 20 hours
09:13.31CodayusSeemed perfectly normal.
09:13.42CodayusOh, they fixed the Bloodlord encounter, btw.
09:13.57FryGuy-i hated the 12 gold + 2 hours I had to waste cause of the servers today
09:14.00kergothgod, what is with this drinking/eating bug
09:14.02CodayusSpears/wall gone.  No more pathing fun.
09:14.12FryGuy-died 2x cause of lag
09:14.17FryGuy-+ had to spirit res too
09:14.25FryGuy-and then server went down for an hour
09:14.29kergothrestores life/mana for like 3 seconds, then stops, have to keep eating/drinking over and over, wasting all my fucking food
09:14.40FryGuy-and we lost like 40 minutes of progress on the trash to faerlina
09:14.42Kebinusanyeah I had to spirit rez twice
09:14.50Kebinusanonce I ended up in stonetalon
09:14.56Kebinusananother time it was alterac mountains
09:15.02Codayuskergoth: In EPL?  It's the stupid zone wide +dmg buff.  Apparently it ticks every ~5s or so...and makes you stand whenevet you receive it, god knows why.
09:15.13kergothCodayus: ahhh
09:15.14kergothyep
09:15.19kergothwas grinding over in tyr's hand
09:15.22FryGuy-luckily I had just put a lot of my gear in the bank so i'd have room for pots on loatheb lol
09:15.23CodayusIt's known...it'll be fixed next patch.
09:15.31FryGuy-reminds me of the AV bug
09:15.42FryGuy-and how pallys summoning their mount aggros the guards in LHC
09:15.48kergothso hows the new world pvp crap?
09:15.51kergothhavent treid it at all yet
09:15.57Kebinusanyeah it was reported on test they just never fixed it before live, gg bliz
09:16.06maianow thats interesting. all my ace addons have lost their PROFILE menu in their dewdrop config. and its gone on the commandline too.
09:17.10FryGuy-oh and they ninja changed heigan
09:17.27FtH|eaglehow?
09:17.42maiaBigWigs is the only addon with a profile option left. wtf?
09:17.44Thraemaia: Ace, as in Ace1?
09:17.55maiaThrae: no, ace2.
09:18.09maiacant remember if e.g. oRA ever had a profile option in its dewdrop
09:18.44ThraeI had the same problem, I thought it was a FuBar-2.0 change.
09:19.35maiahow did you fix it? ;)
09:19.42Thraes/had/have/
09:19.47maiaoh
09:20.14maiacant be related to FuBar, as the commandline doesnt have them either.
09:20.28maiae.g. /squishy profile -> [profile] is not a valid option.
09:20.48phybercool! apparently the Eye of Kilrogg doesn't die from falling damage in 1.12.
09:20.56phybernow I have to find things to jump off with it.
09:21.09Icerothtry hyjal
09:21.23Mikmahehe
09:21.24FtH|eagleyou can trink some coffee when flying
09:21.32Mikmateldrassil
09:21.37FtH|eagleshould take long :P
09:21.57phyberIceroth: Hyjal is what I was thinking.  In Hyjal there is a zone on the left that I can get into, but the fall is far too much for me.
09:21.58Worfhmm... shame on me - i realize that i never been on Hyjal
09:21.59Mikmai once jumped to north drom teldrassil
09:22.04kergoth"Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon."
09:22.08Mikmawith noggenfogger and epic-mount
09:22.22Mikmai died in middle of air because the map ended
09:22.39Icerothi've jumped from hyjal to southshore :)
09:22.50maiahow do you get into hyjal?
09:22.57Icerothfrom winterspring
09:23.04evlsome cave in Darkwhisper something
09:23.09Icerothno, not the cave
09:23.11phyberby dodging elite demons and lots of climbing :)
09:23.15maiaI remember having seen elite mobs with a huge aggro range there
09:23.22Icerothstealth ftw :)
09:23.25evl:D
09:23.36phyberaggro range isn't that big.  you can easily dodge them
09:23.41Icerothyeah
09:23.49Worfthe elites down in the south, right?
09:23.50phyberthe two times I've been to Hyjal, I just ran through on my mount.
09:23.55Icerothyea, the demons
09:24.10Worfhmm... i used to farm this demons with some friends...
09:24.12Icerothdarkwhisper gorge or something like that
09:24.36Icerothin the very south there's this tunnel and portal to hyjal but that's closed
09:24.38Worfa friend said they drop something he needs
09:24.43Mikmathe elite giants in the area before darkwhisper are much more fun
09:24.48Mikmai can solo them with shadowpriest :D
09:25.00MikmaWorf: eye of shadow
09:25.02Icerothbut there's a pillar in the mountain side that you can jump to, walk around, jump some more, climb some and then get to hyjal
09:25.16IcerothMikma, those are eeezy
09:25.24phyberIceroth: I find the invisible wall that blizzard put there quite funny :)
09:25.30MikmaIceroth: like i said, i can solo them with shadowpriest, which is fun
09:25.32phyberto stop you jumping down
09:25.32GngskThey drop Juju!
09:25.37Icerothit's not the only place there are invisible walls
09:25.40phyberbut you just walk around it and jump off a different part :p
09:25.41Icerothi got trapped there once :P
09:26.08Iceroth"oh, cool, there it just, ruuuun" - "doh"
09:26.34phyberthat happene to me the the first time, I tried to run and jump off the top of the otherside of the entrance.
09:26.43Icerothsame
09:26.43phybermanaged to get back up onto the ledge though
09:26.50Icerothi didn't :-/
09:26.55phyberbit of jumping and wiggling.
09:27.24Icerothyea i was taking a friend there and he did jump there even though i warned him not to but he got back up
09:28.29CIA-1103saroz * r8789 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Always reset feign death, because people change raid id
09:30.02JensGah... 1.12 makes me want to try WoW again :/
09:31.33phyberit makes me want to sit in the battle grounds soaking up free honour.
09:32.14Icerothhttp://www.saunalahti.fi/~tatexi/wow/iceroth_flies.avi
09:32.23Icerothfrom hyjal to southshore
09:32.23phyberjust throw the occasional Deathcoil so people have something to whine about.
09:33.11phyber10:32:09 (1.17 MB/s) - `iceroth_flies.avi' saved [41624636/41624636]
09:33.26Icerothkinda decent speed
09:33.27WorfResolving www.saunalahti.fi...
09:34.04Worffailed: Temporary failure in name resolution.
09:34.14IcerothWorf, http://62.142.11.7/~tatexi/wow/ui/
09:34.20Icerothdunno what's wrong with your dns though
09:34.26Icerotherm, doh
09:34.31Icerothanyway, what's the ip
09:34.52Icerothkinda nice of my old isp to still host my files :P
09:34.52Worfthanks
09:35.10Worfbtw - i get 1.7 MB/s :)
09:35.23Icerothnerf your connections seriously
09:36.25phyberhaha, nice landing.  almost ganked by murlocs :)
09:36.40Icerothyea, they kinda spoiled that :P
09:36.42Worfrotfl - what a height
09:37.01phyberit makes me want to visit hyjal again. :)
09:37.15Worfyeah, i need to get up there...!
09:37.24Icerothshould have just killed them but i didn't want a violent end in the vid :)
09:38.03tumetomhow can you get up there??
09:38.16Icerothor hmm.. grenade from the air could have been fun too :)
09:38.44Icerothcheck google vids for example, there are videos that show how to get there
09:39.21phyberyou know, I've never see the "Contested Territory" text and stuff on EU WoW.  not that i can remember anyway.  maybe I just block it out?
09:39.37Kebinusanfry, what did they change on heigan?
09:39.38phyberI'm sure all of the zone text is just like "<White> Felwood </White>"
09:39.44phybernothing else, no fancy colouring.
09:40.06Icerothi think it shows up only when you zone from alliance territory to contested
09:42.03evlAnyone know a nice way og filtering out "Not enough energy" "That ability isn't ready yet" etc.?
09:42.12Icerothroguespam
09:42.23Otharphyber: Doesn't show on PvE realms really
09:42.32HealthYo - how is the US servers feeling?
09:43.53HealthDid they get it to work? Just wondering as EU is still down for the planned mainttainance
09:45.45evlSome hicups
09:45.51evlBut i presume EU will come up at 16:00
09:46.33Laricevl with blizzard normal delays i expect it to be up around 20:00 :P
09:46.54evlThey have one of the worlds most experienced QA teams, wierd that they seem to fuck up so much :)
09:49.24tumetomhm cannot find a goodvid
09:52.14Worfhmm  found 2 vids about how to get there, but nobody cared to open the map for a sec to show where to actually start
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09:52.37Icerothfar south in ws
09:52.51Icerothdarkwhisper gorge
09:53.04Worfat the "end" of darkwhisper gore?
09:53.09Icerothpretty much
09:53.15Worfk, thanks
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09:56.08phyberOthar: ahh, that will probably be it then :)
09:56.25phybermy only char on a PvP realm is still stood in the starting area ;)
09:56.28Laricevl for starters i dont think they test on the hardware spec the original realms have.. they are probably test running on the same hardware as new realms are running
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09:59.19[Ammo]ninjachanged heigan? how?
09:59.40Healthmindflayers?
10:00.58[Ammo]?
10:04.21FtH|eagleI heard the save points are changed
10:04.51Kebinusanheh yeah he says that then goes afk
10:05.03[Ammo]funny shit
10:05.19Healthmeh! was another ninja change i guess
10:06.33[Ammo]no idea if they changed the safespots
10:07.14[Ammo]doesn't change it much though, I suppose there is still green goo spewing up
10:09.36FtH|eagleI think they changed it because there were really safe spots
10:09.42FtH|eaglestand at the same place all the time
10:09.45FtH|eaglewithout getting hurt
10:10.36wereHamsterwhen I tell ace to unhook a function, does it restore the original function?
10:10.57FtH|eagleI found that out by going 10s afk in the fight, and my char ran against the wall without dying
10:11.16[Ammo]ah ok
10:11.22[Ammo]so the general moving safe spots weren't changed
10:11.23[Ammo]that's good
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10:12.47ThraewereHamster: That would be unsafe if anything other then AceHook hooked the function. I suppose it could be smart and restore the function -if- it knows AceHook is the only function to have hooked it, but more then likely it just doesn't call your hook handler.
10:13.13wereHamsterthat's what I thought
10:13.59wereHamsterand how well is it possible to replace hooks in embedded libs? eg if an old version hooks the function first and now the lib is replaced with a newer revision?
10:14.07snurredoes superinspect work with 1.12?
10:21.11evlis it possible to create a hook that stops the original method from running?
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10:21.35phyberevl: the original method doesn't run unless you tell it to.
10:22.41phyberI found that out when hooking something in Fizzle :)
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10:44.49Nulzoresomeone help me with ace 2 >.<
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10:52.10ckknightNulzore, ask nice
11:00.18Healthword!
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11:03.19HealthDid they solve the cross realm battleground issues on us?
11:03.53evlHow do I get svn commit access?
11:03.53Icerothgreat, furor is still bugged apparently
11:04.02IcerothFU blizz
11:05.25HealthYou code something cool!
11:06.00ckknightevl, yea, it's a catch-22
11:06.01evlI have, i reduced RogueSpam by a factor of 10! :)
11:06.08ckknightyou have to code something awesome
11:06.19ckknightalternatively, send an email to cladhaire
11:06.35evlvery well!
11:06.52evlOnce my BG Timers mod is done I will hope to qualify
11:07.04evlHaven't been in AB or AV for a while so I don't have any data to work with :(
11:07.09HealthCode something cool and commit it for others to evaluate the coolness - if you're cool enough you get to commit
11:07.23Icerothbg timers?
11:08.00evlwill be identical to oCD but with objectives instead of spells
11:08.15evlThere's two other mods on curse that do it but none are ace and both are in pretty bad shape code wise.
11:08.35ckknightevl, refer to GloryLib and BattlegroundFu
11:08.49evlI'm using GloryLib ofc
11:08.50Icerothi was just gonna say bg fu shows them in numerical format :)
11:08.58ckknightmay want to talk to chip
11:09.33evlOnly thing I miss in GloryLib is that it doesn't automatically classify the objectives
11:09.34ckknighthttp://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF003AD-Snail_Harassment.jpg <-- hehe
11:09.40evlI'll have to parse the messages my self
11:09.49Tupladhttp://www.wowace.com/ - Ace 1.3.0 is out and stable! Check our download page for links to where you can get it. Soon we will begin development on Ace2.
11:09.50Tupladhas to be changed :x
11:10.19evlas with "bla bla bla gaveyard bla bla" it would be very nice if a parameters to the event was class or type "graveyard", "mine", "stables"
11:11.00ckknightevl, so hack on GloryLib?
11:11.31evlI'm not that experienced yet, I'll have to get my own addon hacked first and I will probably commit my findings once that's done
11:13.48HealthI need to find a better editor than EditPlus for my lua :/
11:13.48Kebinusanhmm, 006/08/23 06:13:16-260]: FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:90: `)' expected (to close `(' at line 89) near `end'
11:14.11evlHealth: SciTE
11:14.14Nulzoreso can anyone help me wtih ace 2? I can't get sct 5.0 working and ace2 is the reason :(
11:14.21ckknightKebinusan, blah.
11:14.56tumetomNulzore details?
11:15.02CIA-1103ckknight * r8790 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - typo
11:15.25ckknightyour mom's the reason.
11:15.31ckknighthttp://www.pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF027AD-Billy_the_Bunny.jpg <-- good one
11:15.34Nulzoreok one sec.
11:18.12CIA-1103maia * r8791 10RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.lua: RosterLib-2.0: missed something to compost. IterateRoster() also will now return nil if no roster is available.
11:18.53ThraeDoes anyone know approximately how much overhead a single Frame object takes up if it's hidden?
11:19.22Healthmessured in what? meters?
11:19.22ThraeIt's a good bit more then, say, 1KB, right?
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11:19.55ThraeHealth: static KB and KB/S, of course. This is usually what people mean with overhead on objects.
11:20.02CIA-1103maia * r8792 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: fixed a bug when UnitName("player") returned nil when zoning out of a battleground.
11:20.09HealthI was just being a bitch :(
11:20.48ckknightto answer your question, it's 4 meters.
11:22.27ThraeBah. I'm just trying to figure out where to start in optimizing AlphaMap. I like the mod, but I can't help but think making ~1500 frames through XML where only 50 may be needed is not a Good Idea(tm). IE, it's still using the pre-1.10 conventions.
11:22.29CIA-1103werehamster * r8793 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): IFrameManager/IFrameFactory/coolDown: update toc number to 1.12
11:22.43Healthhigh 5!
11:22.56ckknight1500 frames?
11:22.57ckknightwtf?
11:23.01ckknightno.
11:23.01evlckknight: oh, didn't know you were the GloryLib author :) you wouldn't happen to have a combat log from AB/AV lying around? Was planning on doing some coding here at work :P
11:23.03ckknightjust, just no.
11:23.11HealthI remember krka saying he had thousands of frames in one of his addons
11:23.17ckknightevl, nope, that was chip's domain
11:23.33ThraeYes, it's at least 1500 frames for all the Map Notes, POIs, Gathering notes, etc.
11:23.44ckknightugh
11:23.51ckknightuse lua to create dynamic frame
11:23.51ckknights
11:23.58ckknightso much cleaner and more efficient
11:24.05ThraeHow much would the approximate savings be, though?
11:24.20HealthI'd say that's hard to say! Without testing
11:24.33ThraeHence why I'm asking ckknight, he knows everything.
11:24.38ckknightwell, a frame is 32 bytes + 2 bytes + userdata length
11:24.39HealthYou don't have to make a test inside alphamap... do a general frame test
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11:24.51ckknightactually
11:25.08KirovHave there been any reports of other mods conflicting with AceComm?
11:25.08ckknightit's 32 bytes + 9 bytes + userdata length
11:25.15ckknightwait
11:25.15HealthSo young but still knows everything - impressive!
11:25.19ckknightI dunno
11:25.21ckknightyea
11:25.25ckknightit is
11:25.27ThraeYeah, it was the size of userdata which balked me.
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11:25.32ckknightso 41 bytes + userdata
11:25.49ckknightwhich would likely be at _least_ 128 bytes
11:26.01ckknightHealth, :-P
11:26.06ThraeAt least 128 bytes total, or 128 bytes in userdata?
11:26.08ckknightI'm "special"
11:26.12ckknight128 bytes in userdata
11:26.14ckknightminimally.
11:26.21ckknightprobably closer to 256 bytes
11:26.39ckknightgranted, keep in mind that it's not measured in lua
11:26.51ckknightsince though you have a reference to it, it doesn't bloat gc memory
11:27.27ckknightso having 1000 frames may actually take up 1 MiB of RAM, but it'll only seem like it takes up 41 KiB
11:27.28ckknightor so
11:29.16ckknightalso, creating frames causes a CPU churn
11:29.34ckknightand whenever something graphical happens, it's majorly slow compared to standard lua methods
11:29.48ckknightalright, I'm going to go to sleep
11:29.51ThianaThat explains a lot about MetaMap
11:30.51Thraeckknight: I was under the impression defining a frame in XML is basically defining a frame through CreateFrame
11:30.57ckknightit is.
11:31.13HealthNo sky diving yet?
11:31.15ckknightthat doesn't go against what I'm saying
11:31.20ckknightHealth, apparently not.
11:31.32ckknightnot sure what happened to that
11:31.39ckknightfrankly, I'm not too enthused.
11:31.59HealthIt's all airy
11:32.07ThraeThiana: MetaMap has switched to creating its frames dynamically not long after the 1.10 patch
11:32.35ckknightcreating 1500 frames in XML would cause a bit of a delay at the startup
11:32.36ThraeThiana: Most of its bloat comes from a) Trying to do EVERYTHING b) The WoWKB database enabled by default c) Raw MapNotes data
11:32.46ckknightalright, cya all later
11:33.01Thiana[/netfs/wow/pluto/Interface/AddOns/MetaMap]$ grep CreateFrame *
11:33.01ThianaMetaMap.lua:            button = CreateFrame("Button" ,"MetaMapNotesPOI"..noteNumber);
11:33.07ThianaI dont think so...
11:33.09ThianaNight CK
11:33.27ThianaMetaMap.xml is 151kb
11:33.37ThianaThats *not* creating things as needed.
11:33.42ThraeYeah, but that's not from the POIs
11:33.53ThraeAlphaMap creates 1500 POI frames
11:34.02ThianaPOIs are a small portion of metamaps stuff
11:34.04[Ammo]I should finish PinPoint :)
11:34.14[Ammo]right now it just reports locations to my chatframe :)
11:34.21CIA-1103maia * r8794 10Detox/Detox.lua: Detox: now hiding empty tooltip (resulting problem: if you're detaching it you have no idea where it is unless someone has a debuff, so moving it is a pain.)
11:34.25ThianaPinPoint?
11:34.41ThraeIt even creates POI frames for CT_MapMod and Gatherer, which have their own frames, hence confusing me
11:35.03[Ammo]yeah I just named it PinPoint
11:35.16ThianaThrae: Sounds like you need to rewrite AlphaMap from scratch instead simply trying to upgrade it.
11:35.40ThianaWhat did you name PinPoint?
11:37.13ThraeThiana: There's a difference between high static memory usage (AlphaMap) and high memory usage (MetaMap). MetaMap can cause a lot of garbage, increasing your KB/s leak. AlphaMap just sits there and doesn't really do anything expensive except what it initially loads into memory.
11:38.05ThraeI can easily just hack it to use CreateFrame and shave off a LOT on the initial memory usage, then I'll be mostly happy with it. My goal is speed (which includes low KB/s) before low static memory usage.
11:38.33ThianaAs long as the static memory used isnt being held wastefully, I agree thats better than MMs method of causing GC all the time
11:39.29[Ammo]thiana: a simple addon that registers veins and herbs
11:39.32[Ammo]for my own enjoyment
11:39.47Kebinusanalphamap finally has an interactive mod, thats nice
11:40.02Thiana*blink* A gatherer replacement? Can you svn it perhaps? :)
11:40.03ThraeWell, you could probably shave off ~300KB at least by putting the options window in a separate LoadOnDemand addon along with its translations
11:40.18[Ammo]thiana: it only stores zone, x, y, herb atm, no fancy stuff
11:40.44Thrae[Ammo]: Any compression?
11:40.52[Ammo]no compression
11:40.58[Ammo]it's just something I was fiddling with
11:41.03[Ammo]because I found gatherer a bit too much bloat
11:41.07Thiana[Ammo], I never use the gatherer reports to start with. As long as I can see the herbs on the minimap I'm happy :)
11:41.09[Ammo]and I don't like using CTmastermod just for ctmap
11:41.27oxmanI don't use CT* mods =p
11:41.32[Ammo]I use viewport
11:41.44oxmanI don't like viewport :)
11:41.44Kebinusanyeah I use viewport too
11:41.47ThraeI was thinking of just hacking CT_MapMod to remove the MasterMod dependency, shouldn't be too hard
11:41.51ThraeIt's tiny code
11:41.55Kebinusanits the only viewport mod that exists to my knowledge
11:41.56[Ammo]yeah it's small enough
11:42.43ThraeMasterMod only takes up 346KB including the settings for CT_MapMod
11:43.25ThraeCT_MapMod also has the problem of making 250 static frames
11:43.28[Ammo]yeah
11:43.35[Ammo]I was going for a createframe thing
11:43.42[Ammo]but shrug
11:43.57ThraeAnyway, I must retire.
11:44.21ThianaNight Thrae
11:44.25phyberhow difficult would it be to just make a mod that just lets you resize/move the map frame and change the alpha on it?
11:44.44[Ammo]no idea
11:44.52evlpretty easy, I do it manuallt myself
11:44.59[Ammo]I'd say as small as Squeenix is :)
11:45.12[Ammo]just find the correct framename, resize, alpha and make movable
11:45.41phyberI was doing that through some slash commands a while ago, but it would reset when I opened the map again.  I guess I should hook the map opening function :)
11:45.43FtH|eaglebtw. opening the map causes all frames to hide and vice versa, and I want that to stop, any ideas?
11:46.31phyberguess I will try doing something with it later :)
11:46.38phybermaybe I can ditch metamap, that's all i use it for.
11:46.43evlphyber: http://ace.pastey.net/372
11:47.27phyberMap, not minimap
11:47.30phyberWorld map ;0
11:47.31phyber;)
11:47.43evloh :D
11:47.47evlsorry then ;)
11:48.03evlProbably the same, I just normally load up TinyPad and fiddle with shit until it works :P
11:48.13evlI've even bound Ctrl-Z to reload ui :D
11:48.19ThianaFtH|eagle, Look at Lexan on the svn.
11:48.35FtH|eagleoh k
11:52.30Kebinusanphyber, yeah same here thats all I use it for too
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11:57.35Kaeltenhowdy howdy
12:03.19oxmanhwdy
12:03.19oxman:p
12:03.20maiaeww, US servers seem to be very unstable
12:03.28oxmanbut the french will be ok ;D
12:03.41Kebinusanthey arent so bad now
12:03.47Kebinusanwe just had another rolling restart though
12:07.53Laricabout localized servers.. it is kinda funny to get item links from ppl from france and germany.. you have no idea what it is until you click it and it expands into an english item
12:08.27CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r8795 10oRA2/oRA2/Participant/Resurrection.lua: oRA2: better hooking
12:09.01oxmani need to switch to ora2 ='(
12:09.19Laricammo is it still your branch of ora2 i should use?
12:09.32[Ammo]if you're feeling brave :)
12:09.53Laricis there another one for those who arent as brave?
12:10.46[Ammo]there isn't
12:10.58[Ammo]there is oRA1 on the svn that is patched for 1.12
12:11.07Laricis there some issue with the svn today? today it seems almost dead.. (no i am not complaining about the general performance of it clad)
12:11.12oxmannot very nice patch :p
12:11.26oxmanstill have function like "joinchannel" etc
12:11.26oxman:)
12:11.37LaricI just hope the htm and sws ppl are slow in updating :P
12:11.37oxmanLaric no problem here
12:11.39[Ammo]but it uses sendaddonmessage
12:11.44oxmani've see that ;)
12:11.47[Ammo]it's just a quick patch I think
12:11.52[Ammo]but the join functions are still there
12:11.57[Ammo]just not used
12:11.59oxmanDo you want see my modifications ? (I've not try, i send to you by email)
12:13.25[Ammo]oRA1 is patched just use that for now
12:13.30oxmanok
12:13.30oxman:)
12:13.46Laric[Ammo] isnt it so that ora1 isnt compatible with ctra 1.54?
12:14.01[Ammo]it should be
12:14.01Laricdue to cides message changes?
12:14.10[Ammo]he didn't change the messages afaik
12:14.16[Ammo]checking that
12:14.33Laricsomeone was saying it wasnt compatible anymore
12:14.39Laricearlier today in here
12:15.12[Ammo]well it should be compat
12:15.15[Ammo]can't see why it's not
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12:16.04evlHmms
12:16.20evlSide question: Anyone know how to stop WoW from making MSN go into busy mode? :P
12:16.23[Ammo]that person probably didn't use a correct version or sometihng
12:16.49Laricevl dont full screen it
12:17.00oxmandon't use msn
12:17.01oxman=')
12:17.07evlI cget horrible performance when I run windowed
12:17.11evlon GF6800Go
12:17.16oxmani'm horrible when i use msn ;p
12:17.38oxmansomething like.... hm... hm... jabber. Is better
12:17.44Larici cant have msn window up when i play... damned flash movies they send steal all my performance
12:17.58evlwww.mess.be
12:18.02evli patched msn
12:18.06evlit's basically featureless now :P
12:18.39evlLaric: Here's my patched version of Live messenger: http://dropbox.lunarlounge.org/msn/MsnLiveMessenger.rar
12:19.15oxman(with a trojan)
12:19.15oxman:)
12:19.15Laricty
12:19.45Laricit will clear all svn repositories eh ? :P
12:19.51oxmanlol
12:19.57evlHehe no :)
12:20.08evlLet me get a screen
12:20.25evlhttp://dropbox.lunarlounge.org/msn/screen.jpg
12:20.33evlthat's what it looks like after patching it
12:20.33Tupladevl
12:20.35Tupladyou're a pimp
12:20.37AzurewrathLaric, evl www.miranda-im.org - smaller, faster, easier ;p
12:20.46Azurewrathand well, open source and free
12:20.48evlmiranda: no voice, no shared folders :)
12:21.00Tupladevl: what are shared folders anyway ? didnt try
12:21.16oxmanmiranda = voice and cam
12:21.16oxman;)
12:21.25Azurewrathit's an IM.. its supposed to send messages.. who needs voice oder shared folders ;p
12:21.31oxman:D
12:21.38evlif i make a sharing folder with you we have the same folder on our machines, any files dropped into them or deleted are  synched, nice for work
12:21.52Tuplad:O
12:21.55LaricI use foldershare.com  really nice.. syncing my wow folders between work and home
12:21.57Azurewrathi prefer a real FTP Server :)
12:21.58[Ammo]relying for work on MSN is silly
12:22.00CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r8796 10oRA2/oRA2/Leader/ (Invite.lua Resist.lua): oRA2: name and typo fixes
12:25.18Azurewrathuh btw if someone uses mIRC and whats all stuff from cia-11 displayed... :)
12:25.22Azurewrathon *:TEXT:*:#wowace: { if ( $nick == CIA-11 ) { window -g1 @Ace-SVN Arial 11 -1,-1,-1,-1 | aline @Ace-SVN [ $+ $time $+ ] $1- }
12:25.31oxmanlol
12:26.04oxmanyou have forget something
12:26.08oxmanreplace on *
12:26.19oxmanby on ^*
12:26.28oxmanthen replace the end } by  | haltdef }
12:26.28oxman:)
12:26.37Azurewrathhehe
12:29.12Azurewrathah, just looked it up on the mIRC help.. i prefer the dual-printing ;)
12:29.24oxmani don't know why
12:29.34Azurewrathso do i :)
12:29.47oxmani don't know why you prefer the dual-printing
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12:30.13Azurewrathi don't know either.. well, no idea :)
12:30.31Azurewrathguess its usage to bot-output in channels over years hehe
12:31.18CIA-1103icetrain 07Ammo * r8797 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: OMaintank - Statusbars should now be visible and updating, some cleanup (drycode)
12:31.36evlAzurewrath: real ftp servers requires opening a real ftp program and connecting and transfering etc. time is money :D
12:31.40oxmani don't understand what you say
12:31.51oxmanevl you really need to share a folder ?
12:31.54oxmanme none
12:31.59oxmani send file
12:32.05oxmanor a .zip if i've lots of file
12:32.35evlit turns out a bit different when you have 2gb of motiuon graphics and 3d material that change a couple of times an hour and it's about 600 files
12:32.39Azurewrathhrm, eventually it goes beyond my knowledge of the english language to explain it.. dunno, nevermind ;)
12:32.42evlthen zip'ing and sending well... .it's just retarded.
12:33.16Azurewrathevl: what.. you don't have a real ftp client open all the time? :)
12:33.29evli'd still have to find out what's changed.
12:33.48evlinstead I have this folder on my desktop it's named "Stuff" and it's AutoMagically™ updated
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12:45.57hastehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx1PrqtCet8
12:46.02hastethat song wins 100 internets
12:46.58oxman"100 internets" ?
12:47.11hasteyou should read more on 4chan
12:47.35evllol, dave chappelle plays wow? :P
12:47.37oxmanOh haste, i've do a full copy of your ocd, and made modifications to make a "health bar" above the cast bar (health bar of my target)
12:47.40evli want him as raid leader on ventrilo
12:48.01hasteoxman: I'm confused
12:48.05oxmanso it's a new addon, but based 95% on ocd
12:49.10hasteoxman: uhm, screenshot :p ?
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12:49.43Azurewrathuhm.. aren't healthbars that thing what unitframes or tooltips are for? ;p
12:50.57oxmanit's for passive targeting
12:50.59CIA-1103werehamster * r8798 10ColdFusionShell/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
12:50.59CIA-11ColdFusionShell:
12:50.59CIA-11<PROTECTED>
12:50.59CIA-11<PROTECTED>
12:51.03oxmanwait haste
12:51.24oxmanyou can't have unitframe or tooltips on a passive target (click casting)
12:51.37oxmanand it's very tedious to look cast and health bar to cancel the spell to avoid overheal
12:51.54evlhaste: I call your eurodance video and raise you with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvYW2zqa69s
12:52.00oxmanwww.zimagez.com/zimage/tmp9.php
12:54.10hasteevl: I could raise that again with e-rotic, but I won't :p
12:54.52[Ammo]2unlimited!
12:54.56evlhaste: e-rotic huh? I can match that with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rBidCkJxo
12:55.02Azurewrathahh, now i get the idea oxman.. sounds interesting indeed
12:55.06evlI think you're beat haste
12:55.15evlI'd like too see a stronger video :P
12:55.29hastethat's not eurodance!
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12:55.37hastethat's like.. uhm.. Mr. T - Rap style!
12:55.45oxmanit's specially for healer to manage overheal :)
12:55.50evlthat's mr. t rapping in defense of all the mothers in the world
12:55.55evlMother Power!™
12:56.02oxmanthen sometime when you click fast (click casting remember) you're not sur you cast on the good target xD
12:56.29evlhaste: you don't have a secret addon/trick for auto attacking even if you don't have enough energy for sinister/bs?
12:56.32oxmanwith this addon no mistake on this case :D (and more easy to manage overheal :p)
12:56.42hasteevl: assist yourself
12:56.55evlclevur!
12:57.12evlguess i'll have to do some macroz
12:57.45hastenot sure if it works tho' :p
12:57.49hastebut I guess it would
12:58.25evlDAB has that built in
12:58.39evlHmms, or I can just make a tiny hook
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13:01.45evlhaste: or I could simply go ALL in with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo1w2Y4yj-8
13:02.30Azurewrathomg :)
13:03.20hastedid he ever make more then two songs?
13:03.50Azurewrathdunno, but he's dead afaik
13:03.57haste:o
13:04.30hasteaaw, he did in 1999 :(
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13:05.03Azurewrathya.. lung cancer :/
13:05.55yacoob*bounce*
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13:14.06CIA-1103icetrain 07Ammo * r8800 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua:
13:14.06CIA-11oRA2:
13:14.07CIA-11- Changed some looks and parenting on different objects
13:14.07CIA-11- Fixed some typos
13:14.07CIA-11- Fixed frame visibilty in the update function
13:20.11CIA-1103ammo * r8801 10BigWigs/AQ40/Ouro.lua: BigWigs (Ouro): cancel the correct bar when he submerges early
13:22.12CIA-1103ammo * r8802 10BigWigs/AQ40/Ouro.lua: BigWigs (Ouro): and cancel the correct delayed message as well
13:29.02oxman[Ammo] the timer for ragnaros is ok ?
13:29.27oxmani've see a laps 8 sec between emerge or pop and the timer
13:29.34oxmantwice
13:31.01[Ammo]it should be ok
13:31.07oxmanstrange
13:31.12[Ammo]having more people us bigwigs should make it more correct too
13:31.13[Ammo]but I haven't dnoe the changes
13:31.18[Ammo]vhaarr aka rabbit has
13:31.45oxmanis it the same timer value as ctraboss ?
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13:32.04[Ammo]yeah
13:32.24[Ammo]the timer is/should be correct
13:32.27oxmanok
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13:32.34[Ammo]but I haven't seen raganaros in 2 months or so
13:32.38oxmanhow can you explain the difference ?
13:32.47[Ammo]I can't
13:32.49oxmanso maybe blizz has changed the timer
13:33.01[Ammo]get a transcript of the fight
13:33.11oxmanthere is the time in transcript ?
13:33.16oxmani will do that in case of :)
13:33.42[Ammo]transcript logs events and bigwigs message events with timestamps
13:33.50[Ammo]makes it easy to check fights
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13:34.21oxmanI don't understand
13:34.26oxmanwhen you use transcript, bigwigs log too ?
13:35.04[Ammo]transcript logs bigwigs events as well
13:35.09[Ammo]the message events that is
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13:35.21[Ammo]for easy reference afterwards
13:35.28oxmanoh ok :D
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13:37.50Healthhttp://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9758/162he9.jpg :D
13:38.49phyberRagnaros timers have been spot on for me.
13:39.16phybereveryone elses CTRA timers have been out of whack though, "omg, sons popped early!!11111"
13:39.17oxmanso strange
13:39.23oxmanand it can't be a problem of local
13:39.31oxmanyeah i can say that
13:39.41oxmanbut when 10 9 8.. emerge.. ugh N
13:39.51HealthRagnaros worked for me
13:39.56HealthLoved the son kill count!
13:40.15oxmani will tell you if i've still the problem
13:40.23phyberI guess it depends on latency.  if your client sees the event late, then the timers will be off.
13:41.02oxmanIf I don't see the event, I don't see the timer ;-)
13:41.06oxman(i've no sync actually)
13:42.20oxmanand 8 seconds it's not 1 or 2 :p
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13:44.19evlI'm going on a date with a asian girl today, maybe I should ask he if she would mind farming some gold?
13:44.37Healthspot on
13:45.55oxmansome ?
13:45.56oxmanlots
13:45.56oxman:p
13:52.44phyberremember to post pics, you can be an hero.
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13:53.18HealthHeh? :P
13:54.07evlIf I could get a picture of her naked infront of my laptop in burning steppes farming like hell I could ascend to hero status! :D
13:54.26oxman:p
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13:55.02phyberjust pictures of her naked would be enough :p
13:55.12evlpppft, go discover 4chan noobcake ;)
13:55.30evldidn't someone here paste some patch mirror somewhere?
13:55.41phyberI discovered 4chan, that's why I said you could become an hero!
13:55.53Azurewrathevl: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ <-- there you go :)
13:56.04phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/images/4c/anhero.png
13:56.05phyber:)
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13:59.16evloh my
13:59.18evlone minute to go
13:59.25evlWill they bring all the realms back up in time?
13:59.30Mikmano
13:59.39evlCorrect! You win the car and the house!
13:59.51Mikmazomg!
13:59.59HealthNow we need to stalk the realm status page!
14:00.01Healthforum!
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14:00.39evlomg  bliz noobz
14:00.51evlc64 servers without a 5.12" floppy station
14:01.21HealthNo updates on http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/board.aspx?fn=wow-server-status-en yet
14:01.58phyberhttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1156341423714.jpg
14:02.16HealthI wonder what they have been doing in 14 hours
14:03.00evlHealth: what phyber pasted
14:03.14Tupladkek @ phyber
14:03.42TupladIs there an Ace auto spell rank chooser ? :D
14:04.21phyberClique:EfficientHeal() ?
14:04.33TupladNo
14:04.35TupladSpells!
14:04.42TupladLike buffs etc.
14:04.53phyberoh, no idea.
14:04.54TupladAtm Im using Cirk's Autorank
14:04.56oxmanep_bestspell ?
14:04.57oxman;p
14:05.05*** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=Miranda@83.145.59.23)
14:05.11oxmanor the old bestbuff :)
14:05.59GngskCorkFu does buffs
14:06.06Tuplad:O
14:06.34Tupladoxman: ep_bestspell ? :|
14:06.44oxmanavailable on wowinterface
14:06.45*** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=Miranda@83.145.59.23)
14:07.29TupladOh, lets see
14:08.58Iceroththere are two things in the world you can count on always; high taxes in finland and the inability of blizzard to handle anything well
14:09.07Tuplad:D
14:09.12oxman;)
14:09.25Iceroth10mins past the deadline, 0 servers up
14:09.26TupladWhat's the CIA site again ? Unsubscribed from RSS by accident :X
14:09.27oxmanIceroth really ? The servers are always down ?
14:09.28oxmanNot here.
14:09.54snurreIceroth: i would say they handled one thing well; creating a game we're all enjoying.
14:09.55Tupladhttp://cia.navi.cx/ o nvm
14:09.57oxmanI said "always"
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14:13.52hasteweehoo, servers up 18:00 Paris time, that can't be good :p
14:14.52snurreglad im not at work today :p
14:15.29hasteyour fault snurre !
14:15.51Elkanoit's fun to see that they've shutdowned the German general ^^ http://forums-de.wow-europe.com/board.aspx?fn=wow-general-de
14:16.01Mikmayay
14:16.05Mikmai mean, lederhosen
14:16.25hasteHalt! Hammerzeit
14:16.31Mikmadii di di di
14:17.04tumetomnot all germans are bavarians...
14:17.22Elkanoluckily
14:17.37Azurewrathvery luckily.
14:17.51Mikma~tryme
14:17.53purlACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click.
14:18.04tumetomja des war a deraurige gschicht ;)
14:18.23Mikmasamat suomeksi
14:18.33Tupladíåõóĸ ņå
14:18.54MikmaTuplad: all of us don't have that font ;)
14:19.07Mikmaso it looks unintellect anyway lol
14:19.16Tupladit's not a font
14:19.23Tupladyour font doesnt support cyrillic
14:19.25Mikmayes, it is
14:20.55CIA-1103fleetfoot * r8803 10BigTrouble/ (BigTrouble.lua BigTrouble.toc):
14:20.56CIA-11trunk/BigTrouble:
14:20.56CIA-11* Bumped toc
14:20.56CIA-11* Removed some zombie code in the onupdate handler
14:21.44snurreElkano: EU is getting new forums soon(tm)
14:22.00snurrewas planned today iirc, but scrapped due to hardware upgrade + patch
14:22.13ElkanoI know, but the other Þarts seem to be all working ^^
14:23.01snurreprobably just bugged, like the eu site normally is then
14:23.08snurreit never works when people want/need it
14:23.28snurreby far the least stable website/forums I have ever witnessed
14:23.58tumetomfleetfoot in here?
14:24.04TupladCountinCandy: Spell Bars w/ Candy - spell bars ? :O
14:25.00Mikmahaste: ctrl+a d :)
14:25.22snurresomeone please ace2 DamageMeters
14:25.34Icerothaye
14:25.51fleetfootyeah, im here tumetom
14:25.55Icerothand a feature to reset your own meter without resetting the entire raid would be nice
14:26.02CodayusHmm
14:26.25CodayusAnyone having issues with clique randomly ealing the wrong target?
14:27.30tumetomwould you pls add a German translation for bigtrouble?
14:28.01fleetfoottumetom: Sure, as soon as someone would give me one
14:28.17TupladIs Kaelten around ?
14:28.34tumetomBabbleLib-Spell.lua?
14:29.18HealthLogin server were taken down now.. maybe something happening
14:29.57Worf<drumroll>
14:30.04fleetfoottumetom: Hmm hadnt seen that one before, ill get right on it
14:30.31Kaeltenwhats up?
14:30.44Kaeltenthat hurt!
14:31.11snurrehttp://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9758/162he9.jpg lol
14:31.24Mikmalol
14:31.45snurrei *guess* that means instant queues ;)
14:31.46tumetomhttp://ace.pastey.net/376 ..for quick shots I'm not sure
14:32.01tumetomseems to be a special class ability
14:32.30KaeltenTuplad: yes?
14:32.32TupladKaelten: :D
14:32.36Tupladone sec
14:32.45MikmaKaelten: /bankick Tuplad troll
14:32.52HealthLogin servers up again but no servers....
14:33.38Mikmaa hint, stay in the server-selection menu
14:33.46Mikmawhen they get up they will show right up there
14:33.57fleetfoottumetom: thx
14:36.35*** join/#wowace Makk (n=marcus@trondelag-dhcp-214-66.bluecom.no)
14:36.52HealthMikma, I do that---
14:37.00HealthBut I got "Session Expiered"
14:37.35Mikma? :D
14:38.40Health?
14:39.08TupladMikma: Bartender2 has built-in range coloring or wha ?
14:39.13Mikmai have never get thrown out of the server selection menu
14:39.14MikmaTuplad: no
14:39.52phyberuse RedRange.
14:40.07TupladYea I will
14:40.27phyberRedRange + OmniCC.  good combo :)
14:41.04TupladWurd!
14:41.22Mikmahttp://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=1225481&p=1&tmp=1#post1225481
14:41.25Mikmagg eu
14:41.36TupladWhat about http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/RangeRecolor/ ?
14:41.54TupladYou play on US servors then Mikmazor?
14:42.15MikmaTuplad: omg i should come there and bitchslap you to "Siberia"
14:42.32TupladI dont live in Siberia nabcake
14:42.52TupladBelgium, kk
14:43.12Mikmaand that prevents me from bitchslapping you to siberia?
14:43.16Mikmano vlad, no...
14:43.32Tuplad-_-
14:43.33TupladO wait
14:43.41TupladComprehensive reading, Tuplad, comprehensive reading.
14:43.47MoonWolfI will take no more of this Tuplad, *takes the trout away and puts it back in the wild*
14:44.52HealthIf i could only ignore everyone talking to Tuplad too.
14:45.09HealthAs in ignore those lines
14:45.16Mikmagood one
14:45.18TupladYou suck Health :P
14:45.56TupladOpera can do that
14:46.12CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r8804 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
14:46.12CIA-11TopScoreFu:
14:46.12CIA-11- Removed old BabbleLib stuff from Libs/
14:46.12CIA-11- Changed 'local S' to Babble-Spell-2.0
14:46.12CIA-11- Still unusable.
14:46.36Mikmabut who really uses Opera to irc? has to be one big lamer
14:46.50CIA-1103fleetfoot * r8805 10BigTrouble/ (BigTrouble-deDE.lua BigTrouble-enUS.lua BigTrouble.toc):
14:46.50CIA-11trunk/BigTrouble:
14:46.50CIA-11* Added a german translation thx to tumetom
14:46.54Tupladuhh
14:47.03TupladOpera > any browser
14:47.08Tupladthe irc client rocks aswell
14:47.23tumetomopera > does not start :(
14:47.27Tuplad:|
14:47.37Mikmahas the jury reached it' decision?
14:47.48TupladWurd
14:50.31CIA-1103fleetfoot * r8806 10BigTrouble/BigTrouble.lua:
14:50.31CIA-11trunk/BigTrouble:
14:50.31CIA-11* Rejoice, removed yet another line of zombie code
14:51.10TupladThere is a timer for auto shot ?
14:51.11HealthPlease commit everytime you change a character!
14:52.06phyberIrssi 0.8.10 (20060808) - http://irssi.org/
14:52.13phyberKing of Clients
14:52.18TupladNaaah
14:52.56fleetfootHealth: Willdo, does that include lines of code that only exists in my head?
14:56.28tiggirssi is fine
14:56.45Tupladyea looks neat
14:57.00tiggworks in screen :)
14:57.04eternally777wtb Irssi for Windows?
14:57.10Healthno!
14:57.10Tupladeternally777: there is one
14:57.16eternally777Wtb link?
14:57.21Tupladwts google
14:57.25tiggdunno maybe it can be compiled in cygwin
14:57.30eternally777Tried
14:57.37Tupladeternally777: mikma has one, the bastard!
14:57.37HealthI'm using irssi on my gentoo box for quakenet.. should connect here too maybe!
14:57.59Tupladtigg: I used it on cygwin
14:58.26TupladagUF has raid frames, they're unloaded when not in raid right ?
14:58.33MikmaI have Irssi yes, on Linux tho. stupid little twat
14:58.38MoonWolfI will take no more of this Tuplad, *takes the trout away and puts it back in the wild*
14:58.52TupladDie, you gave me a link to Windows version once
14:59.09Mikmagoogle ftw
14:59.13Tupladwurd
14:59.38eternally777I'm not seeing it.. Call me blind.
14:59.46eternally777But I'm on page 3
14:59.56TupladHm
15:00.02TupladThen Mikma lied to me :P
15:00.19phybereternally777: search for: irssi cygwin
15:00.30phyber5 hit is a .fi site, standalone version
15:00.32phyberkind of old though
15:00.52Mikmaphyber: amen
15:01.04Mikmaphyber is the winner
15:01.33eternally777ahh ty
15:01.52*** join/#wowace Silencer (n=Silencer@195.252.78.16)
15:02.26Silencerdo I need to download ace2 over SVN ?
15:02.51Mikmano
15:02.52Tekkubwewt... rain!
15:02.59Mikmaunless you're a developer
15:03.25Silencereh
15:03.42Silencerwell where i can find latest beta release ?
15:03.44*** join/#wowace phyber- (n=david@host1.ipec.cust.telecomplete.net)
15:03.49TupladYou dont need it
15:03.49SilencerI only see 1.3.0 version to download
15:03.52Silenceron main website
15:03.52TupladAce2 is embed
15:03.59Silenceroh
15:04.03Silencerimplement already in addonz ?
15:04.04phyber-woo.  windows version.
15:04.17Tupladphyber: :O
15:04.32Tekkubnutella > all
15:05.05*** part/#wowace Silencer (n=Silencer@195.252.78.16)
15:06.19Tupladwtb svn mass download
15:07.44Sarozello all, hows it going
15:07.45TekkubWTS GFY
15:08.13TupladTekkub: GFY ? >:|
15:08.17Tekkub^^
15:08.21Tupladgo fuck yourself ?
15:08.25Neronix~wtf GFY
15:08.36NeronixIt's go fuck yourself :P
15:08.38TupladAh, Neronix:D
15:08.43Neronix~whaletrout Tuplad
15:08.45purlACTION slaps Tuplad with Hugh's more acrobatic cousin, Milliardo, who in turn slaps Tuplad around a bit with a large trout
15:08.47Tuplad>_>
15:08.59TupladI wanted to ask you something, forgot what tho
15:09.26Mikmagood
15:09.53Iceroth"There's currently no new ETA." - who was it that said blizz managed to do something right?
15:09.56TupladYou're evil Mikma
15:10.13Mikmathanks
15:10.27Tupladnp
15:11.14NeronixProblems in the datumcentre again?
15:11.33Tupladagain, kek, always.
15:12.32Tekkub'datumcentre' *giggle*
15:14.07[Ammo]tralala
15:14.08snurrean friend of mine (ircop on quakenet) just sent a global message telling everyone to spam me with "happy bday"
15:14.59Tuplad>:|
15:15.32Mikmasnurre: happe bday
15:15.45Mikmas/pe/py/
15:15.46MoonWolfI will take no more of this Tuplad, *takes the trout away and puts it back in the wild*
15:15.50TupladSpam him, private messages ye know ?
15:15.57snurrety :p
15:16.02snurreand no need for spam kthx
15:16.13snurrestill closing windows
15:16.13Tupladuhh
15:17.06*** join/#wowace Rophy (n=Miranda@218-170-25-49.dynamic.hinet.net)
15:17.08MikmaTuplad: yeah but you know spammin is for 15 year old script-kiddies
15:18.07TupladUhh, you dont belong to that group then ?
15:19.02Mikmause your eyes vlad
15:19.11Tuplad:<
15:20.09Healthhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=23051 ?
15:20.31Tupladfake I guess?
15:20.35snurreit's in the db
15:20.40snurrebut no more real than the old Ashbringer
15:21.02snurreor these http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=azzinoth
15:21.03TupladThat sword sucks
15:21.06TupladAV polearm pwns that =D
15:21.33Tupladsnurre: Items are easy to fake on allakhazam
15:21.44TupladI uploaded one named Wrath of Tuplad
15:21.44snurredoesn't mean they *are* fake
15:21.48snurreazzinoth is real
15:21.49Tupladindeed
15:21.51snurrebut not ingame
15:21.53eternally777The Glaive is old, and the Twin Blades of Azzinoth is real
15:21.58eternally777err, are real
15:23.01Mikmarofl, i just heard there is a rumor going on that blizz has leaked information that instances won't work at all, and it will be fixed on saturday xD
15:23.28eternally777instances worked last night :-\
15:23.34Sarozdoing complete SVN update
15:23.38Saroz*pray*
15:23.46snurrecya in 15mins :p
15:23.49Saroz:)
15:23.55phyberMikma: hahaha.  awesome :)
15:23.56Mikmaeternally777: yes but with 1.12 :D
15:24.10Mikmaphyber: that first word after my name was my reaction too ;)
15:24.10eternally777I'm US.
15:24.13*** join/#wowace dreadlyone (n=deadly2@toronto-HSE-ppp4194966.sympatico.ca)
15:24.21eternally777Last night *was* 1.12 :-P
15:24.24Mikmaoh right
15:24.28snurrehttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=12947 and http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=5418 <- those are real too
15:25.02Mikmagm itamz :D
15:25.19snurreonly the last
15:25.22Tupladsnurre: lol
15:25.26snurreused to kill NPCs that are stuck
15:25.31snurreif the despawn command doesnt work
15:25.42snurreusually that doesn't work either tho
15:25.58TupladI wonder where people get those
15:26.06Mikmahttp://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=designerisland1gh.jpg
15:26.24Tupladbah
15:26.35snurrehttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=5417 <-  aoe version of the Weapon of Mass Destruction
15:26.35TupladTest server, fake, ... or real
15:27.05TupladMikma: something wrong with that image
15:27.09TupladMikma: check bottom
15:27.42snurremike morhaime's icon ;)
15:27.49snurreit's the icon for the Death Touch spell
15:27.58snurre(the same effect weapon of mass destruction uses)
15:28.22snurrethat's an emulated server anyhow tho
15:28.27snurrenot test or a live GM
15:29.10MikmaTuplad: yes?
15:30.20yacoobhm, is flexbar still developed?
15:31.28[Ammo]http://www.futuremark.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16303 hehe
15:31.54TupladMikma: the bottom is colored, the top is snow etc.
15:32.11[Ammo]- People after finishing a BG have ended up on wrong server
15:32.11Tupladso either the image are fake or it's a test serv
15:32.12[Ammo]ouch
15:32.21Tuplad[Ammo]: LOL!
15:32.30MikmaTuplad: it's emuserver stupid
15:33.13TupladMikma: wurd up stupid
15:33.18Tuplad[Ammo]: - 1 Alliance party and 2 Horde parties ended up to _same_ Stratholme instance keke
15:33.31Icerotheh, that all just can't be true :s
15:33.48Mikmayes it can :)
15:34.00[Ammo]well I've been with horde in ZG
15:34.01[Ammo]well I've been with horde in ZF
15:34.01phyber/upgrade, most awesome command evar.
15:34.06phyberlet's see opera do that.
15:34.20[Ammo]inside the same instance
15:34.24[Ammo]3 of us 2 horde
15:34.45Tupladphyber: /upgrade for ?
15:34.47snurre- People after finishing a BG have ended up on wrong server
15:34.51snurreive seen whines about that
15:34.51Tupladphyber: and no Opera cant
15:34.57snurrebut i find it extremely doubtful
15:34.59Tupladsnurre: that'd be fucking great, if you ask me
15:35.06snurrecharacters are stored in databases, they aren't moved between servers
15:35.07phyberTuplad: for upgrading my client without disconnecting from irc.
15:35.16Tupladphyber: oh, naaah
15:35.27Tupladphyber: you gotta upgrade opera for that
15:35.32snurreeach battlegroup XBG is a separate realm, which your char data is copied over from your parent realm
15:36.06snurreyou don't exist on any other realms than those, and i really cant see that a new charID is created on a different realm just by accident
15:36.07Mikmahmm
15:36.23Mikmathose things are the url [Ammo] pasted are old and mosst of them are fixed
15:37.02yacoobthe one about pallies being attacked in neutral towns is *cute* :D
15:37.37Mikmaserves them right
15:37.45Mikmathe bastards can bubble and hs
15:37.46Mikmaoh btwe
15:38.02yacoobnot only for beings stupid bastards, but also for allowing BElfs to "steal" the light :D
15:38.08Mikmapeople in same party can interrupt paladins doing *stuff* in a bubble :D
15:38.09*** join/#wowace Laric_ (i=laric@217-13-2-126.dd.nextgentel.com)
15:38.19Mikmai was having fun with my lvl2 alt with 2000 snowballs
15:38.28yacoobhaha :D
15:38.33Mikmainvited my guildie in party and started to throw snowballs on him
15:38.40Mikmahe tried to ress someone *smack*
15:38.49Mikmathen he bubbled and tried to ress him again *smack*
15:38.56Mikmathat one made everyone near crack up
15:39.10yacoob"Cut it out! I'm trying to CONCENTRATE!"
15:39.15Mikmathe freaking bubble can be wasted by throwing snowballs...
15:39.24Mikmahe also tried to bubble and mount... *smack*
15:39.25snurre\o/
15:39.42snurrefunny how no forces on the planet can break bubble.. except snowballs
15:39.45Mikmaomg how he was pissed, he couldn't run away from lvl2 gnome following him around
15:40.00tigglol
15:40.01Mikma20mins later he left party ;)
15:40.18Mikmatry it sometimes :D
15:40.36Mikmahave him bubble and HS, then throw him with a snowball while in same party with him
15:40.43Mikmahe's going to be "wtf?!?"
15:42.54Tupladpwntĩ
15:43.06Tupladmikma is full of evil thoughts
15:43.12Mikmathanks
15:47.32KyahxTakeing a day off from work is a wonderful thing :)
15:47.39Kyahxg'morning all
15:48.39Mikmaheh
15:48.53Kyahxgrrr, Bongos is still being stupid
15:48.59Kyahxtime to switch to Bartender
15:49.10Mikmayay, kyahx-layout!
15:49.14Tupladsup Kyahx
15:49.15Kyahxheh
15:49.27Mikmabeen waiting for it for a long time hehe
15:49.37KyahxBongos seems to think my keybindings for the bottom-right bar is for my right side bar  o.O
15:49.47Mikma2 weeks to go when i start working on bt2 again :D
15:50.58evlblizzard standard bars <3
15:51.11Kyahxbut now I need a mod to move my loot windows...
15:51.32Kyahxand a good bar pager :P
15:51.45Mikmaman i lolled when i did read the changes in bongos
15:51.51snurreFruityLoots
15:52.01KyahxFruityLoots can move the roll windows?
15:52.04Mikmano
15:52.10snurreoh, not the roll windows
15:52.16Kyahxyea
15:52.20Kyahx:P
15:52.35Mikmahmm
15:52.44Mikmacopypaste the code to a different addon from bongos :)
15:52.50Mikmaor use ...
15:53.02Mikmawell, the addon which makes the rollwindows small and movable :P
15:53.08Mikmacan't remember the name
15:53.36KyahxMikma: bartender needs a right-click action to feed the optiosn for that bar into a dewdrop table
15:53.56MikmaKyahx: i agree with that one
15:53.58Kyahxit would be (in theory) easy to do
15:54.00Kyahx:P
15:54.17Mikmapeople have been asking the right-click hiding, they say it was so good
15:54.47Mikmabut after my wedding i'll start working again on bt2 and try to add all of that
15:54.53Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2774-1-bongos.html
15:54.59Mikma6.8.21
15:55.05Mikma* Altered the UI for moving bars around a bit. It now looks similar to Bartender.
15:55.10Kyahxpsh, right-click menus > right-click hideing
15:55.12Mikmathat made me lol ;)
15:55.37Kyahxwell, it was a good idea :P
15:56.01Mikmameh, thanks
15:56.19Mikmabrb
16:02.08`-FISKER_Q\do i have to use ora2 for 1.12 now?
16:02.40[Ammo]fisker: use oRA1 from svn
16:02.47`-FISKER_Q\ok
16:02.48[Ammo]or if you're brave, use my branch of oRA2 :)
16:02.54`-FISKER_Q\it works with the new raidassist and stuff?
16:03.00[Ammo]it should
16:03.19`-FISKER_Q\ok cool
16:03.50*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)
16:04.07KyahxWell Mikma, I can finally setup my UI normal with Bartender :P
16:05.41[Ammo]I switched from cardbars to bt2 as well :)
16:05.42[Ammo]since bt2 now does exactly what I need :)
16:05.42KyahxI cant remember the hoykey hiding stuff thou
16:05.42KyahxHideHK?
16:05.42evlgiev server :(
16:06.48`-FISKER_Q\btw does ora still return the previous version of raidassist as it's version?
16:07.18[Ammo]no
16:07.28snurrewould it be possible to implement something like http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4446-1-shaduniquemt_targetssut.html to oRA?
16:07.31`-FISKER_Q\ok
16:08.26KyahxAmmo: [2006/08/23 09:07:26-20]: Optional\MainTank.lua:259: unfinished string near `"mt then return f.unit end
16:08.28Kyahx'
16:08.31Kyahxlatest SVN oRA2
16:08.39[Ammo]delete the file :p
16:08.43Kyahxk :P
16:08.57[Ammo]Optional/Maintank is under heavy dev by icetrain
16:09.00HealthNice with some updates from blizzard!
16:09.03[Ammo]we're moving to a new system
16:09.10Kyahxallright
16:09.12tumetomthe combo ora2, bigwigs,perfectraid should work?
16:09.16[Ammo]it should
16:09.32[Ammo]since ora2 and bigwigs perfectraid are completely independant
16:10.07snurreora2 doesn't use the ora plugins, right?
16:10.15KyahxoRA1 should be working as well, for the time being
16:10.20Kyahxno, oRA2 is all new
16:13.26FtH|eaglecan someone help with an error: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1757.from1156349555/topicseen.html#msg37483 ?
16:13.30FtH|eagleI don't get it ...
16:15.59CIA-1103kyahx * r8807 10Bartender2/CustomDefaults.lua: Bartender2: Updated CustomDefaults layout, yay for working examples.
16:16.05FrittiFtH|eagle: it's UnitName() that's changed
16:16.08Frittiit can return 2 arguments now
16:16.15Frittiname, server = UnitName("raid30")
16:16.20KyahxThere you go Mikma :)
16:16.24FtH|eagleoh
16:16.35Frittiso then table.insert gets 3 args, and it blows up
16:16.43FtH|eagleyeah, then it's clear
16:18.13FtH|eaglethanks
16:18.18MikmaKyahx: you rule
16:18.19Frittinp
16:18.43Mikmabtw shower and shaving useless hair rock... now imagine that for a moment
16:19.45Kyahxis there a good tiny mod for changeing bar pages based on target reaction?
16:19.50CIA-1103moonsorrow * r8808 10XRS/ (XRS.lua XRS_BuffClass.lua):
16:19.50CIA-11XRS:
16:19.50CIA-11- fixed bug with printing missing buffs in raidchat without L or A
16:19.50CIA-11- fixed bug with table.insert and UnitName()
16:19.51Kyahxor should I just write one?
16:20.06MikmaKyahx: reactionbar
16:20.09Mikmaor something like that
16:20.13Kyahxhmmm
16:20.22`-FISKER_Q\gah
16:20.26Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2372-1-reactionbar.html
16:20.29Mikmathere you go
16:20.31`-FISKER_Q\seems like blizzard is humping the server hamsters on EU :(
16:20.50`-FISKER_Q\15 hour downtime for our server sofar :/
16:21.00Kyahxscrew that, I'll make my own
16:21.09Mikmarofl
16:21.26Mikmamake it bartender compatible... oh wait, it will propably be xD
16:22.33snurreit is
16:22.46snurreim using bartender+reactionbar on my hunter
16:22.50evlSeems like blizzard are fisting themselves by putting out a patch that isn't working very well :P
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16:23.09Mikmaevl: self-fisting ftw.
16:23.28KyahxMeh, its not any worse than patch 1.4 was :P
16:23.43Kyahxthis is one of the most major changes they've had in a long time
16:23.45Mikmahmm wasn't 1.4 something like 2 days
16:23.58snurreim getting more and more glad i have weekend today, but looking less and less forward to work tomorrow
16:24.10Mikmaand some patch was delayed for a week for EU for issues in US hehe
16:24.21snurreat least i get my beta keys tomorrow morning \o/
16:24.36evli'd rather play the finished product :/
16:24.38Kyahxlucky batard
16:24.50Amadeois it normal to get lag spikes each time someone joins a raid group, or is that a unit frame thing?
16:24.52snurremmos are never finished
16:25.21MikmaAmadeo: i have no idea but i do have the same ;)
16:25.25Amadeoyeah
16:25.27AmadeoI can't stand it in AV
16:25.36AmadeoI'm gonna change unit frames later today and see
16:25.39Amadeomaybe it's agUF
16:25.59evlI've always been fucking around with my UI, 5 versions per week atleast
16:26.18evlbut I really like oUF and oCD
16:26.22Mikmatoday i will most likely redo my UI
16:26.34Kyahxbleh, whats the event for target change?
16:26.58KyahxPLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED
16:27.00Kyahxthere we go
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16:28.59Gamefaq|afk....mhh europe servers still down :(
16:29.52evlContratulations, you are the winner of Ms Obvious 2006!
16:30.03tiggyep, good we wanted to to only ZG this evening
16:30.20evli have a friend that lost a Naxx lockout
16:30.30evlafter quite a few bozzors
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16:37.56TupladAccount management working for anyoen ?
16:37.58Tupladanyone*
16:38.24Worfi could login... didn't try the account management pages... do you want to quit? :D
16:39.01TupladUhh
16:39.27TupladActually my account just got unlocked, so I got on the "add gamecard" page, filled in number pressed Go, nothing happened. So I quit, now I cant even get to account management >_>
16:40.26Worfyou do things like that on patchday?
16:40.43Tuplad0 Day pre-paid game card has been successfully added to your account! Your pre-paid time will start on 23 August 2006 18:40 CEST and expire on 22 October 2006 18:40 CEST. To continue playing beyond this date‚ you will need to add another game card (or payment type) to your account.
16:40.44Tupladyay!
16:40.58Mikma0 day
16:41.04Tuplad60*
16:41.08`-FISKER_Q\swords in 1.12
16:41.11`-FISKER_Q\hemo or combat?
16:41.13snurremine will expire some time in 2036 :p
16:41.13`-FISKER_Q\or find daggers?
16:41.15Mikmais that the account number 13?
16:41.47Tuplad-.o Mikma ?
16:42.39TupladWell GG, now the servers are offline
16:42.43CIA-1103werehamster * r8809 10coolDown/ (Options.lua State.lua):
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16:44.45Mikmahe didn't get that? huh :O
16:44.49Mikmabetter not to talk to him at all
16:45.02snurrehttp://www.webbdesign.se/wow/serversonline2200.jpg
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16:46.43HealthThat one is not on forums snurre
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16:48.23Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1945.20.html
16:48.41Mikma22.00 :D
16:48.47sbuhm, hi
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16:50.35CIA-1103moonsorrow * r8810 10XRS/XRS_BuffClass.lua:
16:50.35CIA-11XRS:
16:50.35CIA-11- fixed bug with table.insert and UnitName() (other file)
16:50.45Mikmagrayhoof + Andalia just simply rocks, awesome work both
16:52.22sbuhmm - are there any known bugs with ace1+2? (yes, combination of both) - posted sth. on wowace.com (forum) - but nobody seems to have an answer ;)
16:52.53HealthThat picture is fake :P
16:53.58Mikmawhat pic
16:55.34Amafihm...is there a link to the new oRA that works with CTRA 1.54 somewhere other than SVN? seems tortoise just hangs on me when I try to check it out
16:55.35`-FISKER_Q\is it me or is the kel'thuzad reward retarded? :)
16:55.43Healththe 22:00 one
16:56.18MikmaAmafi: don't think so
16:56.31sbu`-FISKER_Q\: what reward?
16:56.47`-FISKER_Q\the upgrade to seal/mark of the dawn
16:56.56sbuuhm, src?
16:57.02`-FISKER_Q\it has something stupid like +150 attackpower versus undead
16:57.11`-FISKER_Q\can't remember :P
16:57.13AmafiMikma: ah,nevermind,it just took it a good 7 minutes to start :)
16:57.17`-FISKER_Q\was from one of the 1.12 ptr kills
16:57.26snurreyes, it's retarded
16:57.27sbuhm - reward for head or sth. like that?
16:57.33snurrewas really disappointed about that
16:57.41`-FISKER_Q\it's the reward for his shell so to speak
16:57.43Kyahxhmm, how to spec my rogue
16:57.43snurrephylactery
16:57.46Kyahxany suggestions/
16:57.47`-FISKER_Q\yeah
16:57.48snurrebut it's the same as head/heart/eye
16:57.48`-FISKER_Q\that's it's name
16:57.49Kyahx?*
16:58.04`-FISKER_Q\you probably bring it to the scarlet crusade or something stupid
16:58.10sbuwtf? :o
16:58.12Amafimy spec is pretty much identical to my old spec
16:58.16`-FISKER_Q\then corrupted as they are they take it back and let him regain his power
16:58.31snurrehttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=yhxboEzAoGcxzZVz dagger build for pvp
16:58.33`-FISKER_Q\the quest goes something along the line of
16:58.36snurrehttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jbxc0xZMeV00vz0foV pve daggers
16:58.43snurrehttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=nhxroxZMhEz0Vzxfo pve swords
16:58.46Amafionly change is I no longer have MoD,I get weapon expertise,and some more points in dagger spec
16:59.22`-FISKER_Q\"Your head tells you to destroy the phylactery of kel'thuzad, so he can't regain his power. Luckily you rarely follow the head."
16:59.23`-FISKER_Q\:D
16:59.32`-FISKER_Q\i.e. an excuse for him not being killed really
16:59.54`-FISKER_Q\imo someone should take the phylactery and say they're not turning in the quest, hence he cannot gain his power back
17:00.05AndaliaMikma: I'd do more now but I can't because of the eu-servers beein down :(
17:00.19Amafithey're still not up again?
17:00.22sbuno :/
17:00.30Amafidamnit,I've just finished patching
17:00.35Amafigot a raid in 20 minutes too
17:00.39sbuand no clue whats going on there...
17:01.08Amafihopefully the first batch of hardware upgrades :)
17:01.11sbujust sth. like 'two seperate issues blhablah'
17:01.12`-FISKER_Q\got a raid in T-Minus 16
17:01.16MikmaAndalia: i know i know :) i'm on eu too :)
17:01.17Amafial'akir could do with one
17:01.19`-FISKER_Q\in silly nasa rocket speak
17:01.36MikmaAndalia: but the work you and grayhoof have done is nice
17:01.39sbuahah hw upgrade
17:01.42sbuno way ;)
17:01.50Amafiyeah,it's unlikely
17:01.56AndaliaMikma: thanks ^^
17:02.00sbuhmm, my raid starts 1 minute ago :o
17:02.06MikmaAndalia: did you have a look at the grayhoof's code yet? :) he has managed to dump the icons in
17:02.18Mikmawhich i think should be a littlebit smaller :)
17:02.20Amafiwe're in the first batch though,can't wait to see if it'll actually make any difference at all
17:02.49sbuwell, it's just aq/zg and hopefulle we'll postpone it by few hours, but sucks anyway...
17:03.12Amafier,by the way...do all oRA modules need upgrading to work with the new comm channel stuff as well?
17:03.23Amafimine too,ZG
17:03.28AndaliaMikma: I done that myself too now but I don't know if it works
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17:03.46Amafiwas sneaking around for almost 2 hours in ZG to get the mudskunks to summon the fish boss last night
17:03.52sbuhehe
17:04.14MikmaAndalia: yeah :D maintenance is a bitch then you lag
17:04.14sbucleared scholo ~20sek before shutdown last nite ;)
17:04.40maiasbu: so you had no time to loot I guess.
17:04.58oxmaneurope still in maintenance :D
17:05.09oxmanAmafi i think only the core need upgrade
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17:05.13oxmannot the modules
17:05.13oxman:)
17:05.18Amafican't WAIT for all the UBRS runs now to get the evis book
17:05.25Amafiah,ok
17:05.30Mikmait's a wonder how blizzard ALWAYS manages to break some hardware in updates
17:05.33Mikmalike wtf really :D
17:05.41oxmanit's not only a "pc" to upgrade
17:05.44oxmanit's very complicated
17:05.46AmafiI blame the french
17:05.47Mikma"hey lets have a software update, whoops i broke a mainboard"
17:05.49sbumaia: looting worked fine (need / greed (for disenchant) ftw ;p)
17:05.53oxmanwhy Amafi ?
17:06.09Amafithat's where the data centers are located
17:06.14sbuhmm did the really break hardware?
17:06.20MikmaAmafi: in UBRS?
17:06.22hyperChipmunkno, my guess is that the quickest way to fix is to just pile on more hardware.  I was talking to my pvp team yesterday about that
17:06.30sbuor is it just some strange 'server refuses to link' thing?
17:06.31hyperChipmunkI'd LOVE to be their hardware provider
17:06.35sbuhehe yep
17:06.45MikmahyperChipmunk: you would be a millionaire within 2 months
17:06.50hyperChipmunkcuz they got 5 million paying customers
17:06.57Mikma"whopps i did it again, i broke my login-server"
17:06.59hyperChipmunkclamoring for a solution
17:07.05CIA-1103sinaloit 07sinaloit * r8811 10FuBar_BagFu/:
17:07.05CIA-11FuBar_BagFu:
17:07.06CIA-11- Branching to make more FuBar2ish
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17:07.29Amafishame they had to remove temp weapon buffs persisting through zoning
17:07.29hyperChipmunkyou can spend time figuring out the bottleneck, or you can just brute-force it with hardware
17:07.44sbumh, strange thing is that us upgrades are going fine (every time? dont know) - but eu keeps delaying :/
17:07.53Amafimy poison budget is going to skyrocket again
17:08.23Laric_50 man in the us... 5 in euro land wich have more realms :P
17:08.36oxmanhaste is it possible to have custom layout in ocd
17:09.15sbuwell, i dont get it - its the same procedure, but... *shrug*
17:09.45hyperChipmunkdifferent crew too, probably
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17:10.06AmafiMikma: yeah,the assassins in there drop it,according to the notes
17:10.18sbuyah sure, us crew is located in us ;o
17:10.34MikmaAmafi: i was pointing into this: <2006> <Amafi> that's where the data centers are located  :D
17:10.48AmafiMikma: ah :)
17:11.07hyperChipmunkhehe
17:11.10hyperChipmunknice timestamping
17:11.17sbuuhm, yap
17:11.19Mikmathanks :)
17:11.39Mikmajust /set timestamp_format %H%M
17:11.43hyperChipmunknono
17:11.46hyperChipmunklook at it again
17:11.47hyperChipmunk=)
17:11.54sbu%Y ftw ;p
17:11.56Mikmaoh right
17:12.50Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1949.0.html
17:13.23Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1920.msg36629.html#msg36629
17:13.27Mikmasomeone put that link in reply ;D
17:16.29sbuhmm, any1 wanna code some 'level' detection for mandokir? would be interesting to see (lvld ~10 times last time we were there)
17:16.57Mikmaumh
17:17.02Mikmathere's no need
17:17.08Mikmajust don't die and accept the resses :D
17:17.23Mikmathat way he won't ding :)
17:17.27Laric_Mikma it has nothing to do with acceptring the res
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17:17.35Laric_he dings on your death not on your res
17:17.46MikmaLaric_: like i said:
17:17.48Mikmajust don't die and accept the resses :D
17:18.03Laric_I just clarified the point :P
17:18.03Mikmaif accept the ress you will become cannonfodder
17:18.14Mikmathat means he will usually 1shot you = ding
17:18.31Laric_but mandokir is really only about placement
17:18.38Mikmanot anymore :(
17:18.46Laric_they changed him?
17:18.47Mikmathe wall+spears are gone (atleast that's what was said here)
17:19.19Laric_that will be fun on saturday.. finding out a new tactics..
17:19.24sbuok, i got it - so i have to code it ;p
17:19.35sbuuhm - we never used that wall thing
17:19.48Laric_made it sooo simple to kill him
17:19.57Laric_tank infront.. rest on the wall
17:20.02Laric_ranged only
17:20.08sbuhm yep, we just wiped that way
17:20.30Mikmai think every guild on our server did use that tactic
17:20.30Laric_then you had ppl to far on the 'edge' of the wall.
17:20.40Mikmamt1+2 down on boss with rogues
17:20.41sbuthen we tried to stand all in a semi circle in front of him -> no problem
17:20.47Mikmamt3 on raptor at the totem
17:20.54Mikmaranged + healers on the wall behind the spears
17:21.07Laric_I think he assesses the amount of yards he has to run to hit you and figures around the wall is a looong way
17:21.14sbusince he could lvl some times that would be interesting to see ;o
17:21.28sbuand yep, we kill raptor first ;p
17:21.37Mikmalol
17:21.41CIA-1103rophy * r8812 10SimpleCombatLog/SimpleCombatLog.lua:
17:21.41CIA-11SimpleCombatLog
17:21.41CIA-11- Temporary fix for the strange nil errors which I can't reproduce myself at all.
17:21.42Mikmamassacre-mode on
17:21.49sbumore fun ;)
17:21.59sbuthats why i need such an modification (for lvl count) :p
17:22.10Mikmai think we have once killed him after we killed raptor
17:22.11Laric_bah easy.. spam heal for 30 secs.. nothing is killed :P
17:22.20sbuhehe
17:22.22Mikmawe had only tank tanking him for the time he's enraged
17:22.34Mikmaand spamheal the tank the time
17:22.42Mikmaafter that everyone just zerged him
17:22.51sbuwell, sometimes its like "bam, tank down, bam, tank down, ..." (5 times in a row)
17:23.01sbujust 1hit.. but who cares, its fun ;)
17:23.14Mikmait's the hc-way (not hyperChipmunk)
17:23.30sbuhmm - but who said the wall is gone now?
17:23.38sbuis that true?
17:23.43Mikmacan't remember
17:24.02sbuperhaps w/ 1.12!? dont know...
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17:24.19Mikma<1213> <Codayus> Oh, they fixed the Bloodlord encounter, btw.
17:24.21sbuAHH
17:24.24sbu10 servers online
17:24.25Mikma<1214> <Codayus> Spears/wall gone.  No more pathing fun.
17:24.26sbu(german)
17:24.37sbuand ~20 enGB
17:24.40CodayusYes?
17:24.40Mikmawow
17:24.42sbuyap
17:24.51Mikmayeah
17:25.08CodayusYeah, it's changed.  For the better I think.
17:25.14Mikma5 normal en, 10 pvp en, 1 rppvp en
17:25.35Amafiwe've killed bloodlord twice now with no ghosts remaining
17:25.40sbuhehe
17:25.41Amafimessy as all hell,but it's fun
17:25.50sbuyah! :o
17:26.01sbuand thats why... you know, the counter thing ;)
17:26.13Mikmahaha
17:26.17Amafiit sucks when his whirlwind hits you for 3.5K+ though
17:26.30sbui just need to figure how to detect resets, theres no 'start' event :/
17:26.46sbulast time i forgot to run transcript.. *sigh*
17:27.00HealthA bunch of servers up
17:27.02Healthyay
17:27.50CodayusThe wall/spears tactic was boring.
17:27.53CodayusIT worked, but boring.
17:28.04Azurewrath10 gold Kargath will be up last :p
17:28.48CodayusAlso, it *seemed* like they've tweaked his charge algorithm
17:28.54sbuuhm
17:28.58sbumore charges? :o
17:29.04CodayusWe did the standard "hunter at 40 yards thing" to absorb his charges...
17:29.08Codayushunter never got touched
17:29.10Worfjust created a char on Aerie Peak to test some addons... :)
17:29.25CodayusSo...either we're misremembering the old tactics we used from before the wall...
17:29.31sbuhmm, testing addons...
17:30.04CodayusBut he didn't seem to charge so much as "wander around randomly for no apparent reason".
17:30.21tumetomdoes ora1 work together with ora2?
17:30.25CodayusStill fairly easy though.
17:32.23sbuAzurewrath: hm k, 10g - khazgoroth ;o
17:32.43Mikmayay the itunes controller works nicely :D
17:32.51sbuhehe
17:32.56Azurewrathsbu: release server too? :)
17:33.04sbuyap :/
17:33.18Azurewrathhehe
17:33.24sbuMikma: hmm no need, g15 > *
17:33.34Mikmasbu: yes need, iBook 12" :)
17:34.08sbudont like that apple stuff anymore ;) (ipod hdd crashed after 1 yr + some weeks)
17:34.45Mikmaand my hdd in this crashed 1y + some weeks
17:34.46sbuand yep - repair offer: "hdd replacement - 350eur")
17:35.03Mikmaexpensive. i had to pay 250e for 60gb + replacement
17:36.24sbuwell, new price was ~300e :o
17:36.50Mikmaumm. loled
17:37.00Mikmaripoff :P
17:37.14sbunow i got a creative zen vision blah (that video thing) - and it really nice :o
17:37.27sbujust copy our xvid/divx/whatever to player and it works :o
17:37.36Azurewrathlol.. the few realms that are on all have a queue of ~1000
17:37.38Mikmalol 1200 queue for aerie peak
17:39.19sbuyap...
17:39.30snurreonly the swedish servers up :(
17:40.24`-FISKER_Q\the queues seems bugged
17:40.36`-FISKER_Q\right away when logging to the realms it goes down by 200-400
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17:42.40CIA-11Ace2 -
17:42.40CIA-11- Fixed typo.
17:42.57Mikmaphew
17:43.05Mikmamy char ain't on swedish server
17:43.15Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/libs/
17:43.20Mikmathis some nice addon!
17:43.28snurrewhich server then?
17:43.50sbuhmmmmm
17:44.18sbuno sct heals here
17:44.22sbustrange
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17:46.28maiackk!
17:46.36ckknighthey
17:47.02CIA-1103werehamster * r8814 10ColdFusionShell/ColdFusionShellEditor.xml:
17:47.02CIA-11ColdFusionShell:
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17:49.04maiackknight: seems you didnt have a chance to add the scheduled delay to the detaching of tooltips yet. (I need to keep bugging you :) )
17:49.15ckknightdude, I just woke up.
17:49.23evlholy batman underpants
17:49.23maiadude, its 8pm! :)
17:49.26evlget the man a coffee
17:49.29ckknightdude, 7:49 AM
17:49.35Kaeltenlol
17:49.36maiano excuses!
17:49.38ckknightI went to bed at like 2 AM
17:49.40Kaeltenleave him alone
17:51.38Mikma*RAWR* how can i move the ScrollingBattleChat
17:52.32HealthSweet, all my addons loaded
17:52.44maiackknight: okay, so you might want to hear a suggestion regarding FuBar instead: there are quite a few addons that are mainly using FuBar(Plugin) for their configuration menu, but other than that don't display anything relevant in the bar itself. How about adding an option to FuBarPlugin that will display addons not in the bar itself, but in a submenu? E.g. BigWigs, oRa, Squishy and three other addons set this flag to true, and from that
17:53.09Fritticool idea
17:53.09Frittithat would help with e.g. action bar addon unlocking etc too
17:53.21Frittibut I guess you could make a FuBar_ConfigFu
17:53.26Frittiand define a library that did that
17:53.35Frittiand let all other addons depend on tat
17:53.36Frittithat*
17:53.42Sinaloitmaia: Have you seed FuBar_ModMenuTuFu?
17:53.46maiaFritti: I guess it needs to be inside FuBarPlugin
17:53.49maiaSinaloit: no?
17:53.59Frittimaia: why? just add :InjectAceOptionsTable() to your FuBar_ConfigFU
17:54.04FrittiSinaloit: what is it?
17:54.18Sinaloitmaia: Does kinda what you're asking about, tekkub wrote it, gives you a gear icon that lets you access other addons menus
17:54.29Fritticool
17:54.29Worfreturn (string.gsub(string.gsub(title, "|c%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x", ""), "|r", "")  - something is wrong in that line :)
17:54.33Frittigoing to check that out
17:54.41Frittionce the hampsters have been fed
17:54.43ckknightWorf, already fixed that, I thought
17:54.53maiaSinaloit: will it also work without FuBar installed, aka will it reduce the minimap icon clutter to one gear icon?
17:54.54`-FISKER_Q\anyone know what
17:54.55Worfckknight: ah - ok - maybe i missed the update right now :)
17:54.55`-FISKER_Q\"We are aware of the current instance issues across numerous realms. At this time, we are working diligently to resolve such issues and will post when we have more information regarding this matter. We apologize sincerely for any inconvenience this is causing, and thank you for your patience in this matter. "
17:54.57`-FISKER_Q\is all about?
17:55.21Frittiwhat's the "Tu" stand for in ModMenuTuFu
17:55.25sbuahhhhh
17:55.26NeronixFritti: 2
17:55.29sbuspells -> healer filter
17:55.29ckknightTekkub being himself.
17:55.30sbu:)
17:55.40Neronixmaia: Make the mods register their AceOptions tables as chat commands and DeuceCommander and MMTuFu will handle it
17:55.42Sinaloitmaia: Dunno about that I haven't used it w/o fubar
17:56.04Frittiguess that covers my needs then. thanks for the pointer Sinaloit.
17:56.13Neronixas for normal dewdrops... I think dewdrop should have a registry of stuff like that
17:56.20FtH|eaglewill there ever be an ace2 gui options window? :)
17:56.30NeronixI need to go see if there already is one
17:56.43Worfckknight: ah - sorry - didn't notice... (btw - really 2 nested string.gsub, and the 2nd without other parameters?)
17:56.49NeronixSpeaking of DC, I think I've either done something wrong, or FeedAceOptionsTable() is borked
17:57.15ckknightyes, Worf
17:57.15ckknightit's fucked up a bit.
17:57.15`-FISKER_Q\anyone know anything about the instance issues on US?
17:57.15NeronixSome submenus don't want to appear
17:57.15ckknightit strips out colors.
17:57.15Sinaloitmaia: as a warning it displays everything lol, but it does have it breakdown by author/category/name for options
17:58.11Worfckknight: oh - ok... if you say so :)
17:58.15ckknight`-FISKER_Q\, basically, entering instances is fucked
17:58.24`-FISKER_Q\yay
17:58.29maiaSinaloit: installing it right now.
17:58.48FrittiWTB WoW fix
18:04.16maiaanohter question: does OneView belong to OneCore/OneBag/OneBank? PLanning to move from Bagnon to OneBag again.
18:04.20ckknightyes
18:04.29maiakk
18:04.39`-FISKER_Q\lol why the hell am i waiting for a raid then?
18:04.39`-FISKER_Q\O_o
18:04.53`-FISKER_Q\cries*
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18:04.55Amafionebank is awesome...only thing I'm kinda missing from bagnon now is bagnon_spot
18:04.55Worfeeks - closed wrong window
18:04.55MikmaAndalia: so, does your version work better (BattleChat) ? :)
18:04.55FISKER_Qwe were going to pwn huhuran again :(
18:04.55maiahow long does alliance have to wait for a BG to upen up in 1.12? horde BGs are instant, max 10sec.
18:04.56hyperChipmunk10-15m for AB
18:05.00Amafithat'd all depend on the battlegroups I guess
18:05.34Tem|AFK3 minute WSG
18:05.35Tem|AFK6 AB
18:05.35Tem|AFK5ish AV
18:05.35Amafibut seeing as there's a higher alliance than horde population all over I'm guessing they'll have to wait a bit longer
18:05.36Kaeltenhiya Tem|AFK
18:05.36Kaeltenlol
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18:05.37Amafican't wait for the cross-realm bgs myself...haven't met anything but farm teams in AB for months now
18:05.37ckknighthell
18:05.37ckknightBliz fucked up MINUTE_ONELETTER_ABBR in the latest patch.
18:05.37maiaokay, so less than 10min. I was assuming alliance would have to wait for hours as the overall pop is probably 1.5:1
18:05.37ckknightwas "m", now "%d m"
18:05.37Kyahxmy Battlegroup blows
18:05.38maiackknight: PerformanceFu? :)
18:05.38ckknightyea
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18:05.45MikmaAndalia: commit commit! ;)
18:05.46ckknightAbacusLib, actually
18:05.46sbumaia: 1.5:1 is nice...
18:05.46maiayeah, its fun to see. initially I thought my next GC is in 20 days.
18:05.46Laric_hmm is that why i all of a sudden have 28ms latency?
18:05.46sbuwe have sth like 5:1 :o
18:05.46maiasbu: I have no idea what the overall pop ratio is.
18:05.50Amafisbu: hehe,that sounds like silvermoon eu :)
18:06.01Laric_silverymoon isnt that the 'norwegian' server?
18:06.01Amafipop imbalance on that realm was ridiculous when I left
18:18.37Neronixis MINUTE_ONELETTER_ABBR a localised globalstring or something?
18:18.37Laric_that some computer mag said all norwegians should go to?
18:18.38Amafino idea,didn't meet more norwegians there than anywhere else,really
18:18.38ckknightyes, Neronix
18:18.38AmafiI left there because I got in ONE AV in 3-4 weeks
18:18.38Amafiand that one game was against a full inner sanctum team
18:18.38maiahaha
18:18.38Amafihorrible server
18:18.39ckknightmakes me like playing horde
18:18.39Fritti20:00 one of the two issues has been resolved...
18:18.40Amafimy poor lvl 54 resto/balance druid didn't stand much of a chance
18:18.43Frittiright. why even tell us there's 2 issues
18:18.47WorfFtH|eagle: hey, that Detach Tooltip thingie is great, however, if the list is empty it gives a error...!
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18:18.58FtH|eaglereally? didn't with the previous patch
18:18.58FtH|eaglewhat error exactly?
18:19.04ckknightmaia, take out the transparency changing stuff.
18:19.13ckknightout of Detox
18:19.27NeronixAmafi: Inner Sanctum?
18:19.36Amafialliance guild on silvermoon
18:19.39Mikmalol hahahahaha i just had 1000 fps moment ago
18:19.49NeronixWhat? did MPFu break? :O
18:19.52Amafithey were one of the first guilds to clear BWL I believe
18:19.52Mikmayeah :D
18:19.56Neronix-_-
18:20.09sbuhmm, sct 5 rocks
18:20.19AndaliaMikma: I still couldn't test it
18:20.25phyberhttp://www.smog.pl/wideo/1612/buty_ucieczki/
18:20.31MikmaAndalia: well upload it and i'll test it
18:20.40MikmaAndalia: or give me an url :)
18:20.40CIA-1103ckknight * r8815 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: Tablet - bugfix
18:20.44Amafisbu: this is true
18:20.56Mikmai'm on a french server atm with no queue at all
18:20.59HealthI need to grab newest sct
18:21.07Amafiwitchhunt2 works great with it as well,loving it
18:21.16phyberthat URL is funny ;)
18:21.16phyberhe's wearing boots of escaping! :p
18:21.19Andaliabut it won't work. Everytime i'm doing changes i get syntax errors. Thats a rule
18:21.27Kaeltenckknight: lol, I'm having to go back and add ins ome more error checking and then I'm going to work on it letting you pass in objects
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18:21.41Andaliawhen i try to connect to french servers i get stuck at login
18:21.59CIA-1103sinaloit 07sinaloit * r8816 10FuBar_BagFu/ (BagFu.lua BagFuLocals.lua FuBar_BagFu.toc):
18:22.04CIA-11FuBar_BagFu:
18:22.04CIA-11- Drycoded for your enjoyment, beware of typos/dog eating.
18:22.07CIA-11- Additional Translations now needed.
18:22.10maiackknight: what shall I replace it with?
18:22.14evlWhen i try to log into *.* I get blasted to hell
18:22.14MikmaAndalia: grayhoofs version would be nice if it would be movable
18:22.17maiackknight: I'm not happy with it anyway, as you can't move the tooltip when alphad ;)
18:22.25phyberSinaloit: hmm?
18:38.26MikmaAndalia: and a hint, remove the targetname from deathmessages
18:38.26eternally777When I click on a button in my mod, I have to check to see if two small tables are sync'ed.  Would it be better to put the code to check if their sync'ed into the OnUpdate() function, or two just trigger an event or something?
18:38.27MikmaAndalia: with long mobnames it splits into 2 lines, and it's ugly :(
18:38.27AndaliaMikma: You can do that. Change killtext in the options to have no %s
18:38.27MikmaAndalia: oh rofl sorry
18:38.35phyberSinaloit: what's the difference between that and my BagFu in trunk?
18:38.53Mikmai'll just change it to *Victory!*
18:38.53AndaliaI know that problem but I'll try to find a way to fix it
18:38.56maiaSinaloit: is ModMenuTuFu written by you?
18:39.05Neronixjust looked at Grayhoof's SBC code
18:39.15NeronixHe creates a table on every fucking event
18:39.20CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r8817 10oRA2/oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: typo fix
18:39.24Mikmahmm emergency is nice addon
18:39.34Mikmait's 198KiB
18:39.34Neronixand when the history gets too big, he doesn't compost the table, only table.removes it
18:39.47Neronix-_-
18:39.52Mikmaflashes the screen when some actions happen
18:39.55NeronixFault numero dos:
18:40.06phyberSinaloit: you've changed the locals to something that's depricated in the new version of AceLocale, and apparently the = true stuff is slow.
18:40.13NeronixHe uses getglobal and concats a number in its arg
18:40.22AndaliaNeronix: I think I won't do it grayhoofs way at all
18:40.25Mikmai think i will stick with FCT
18:40.25Mikmait's pretty good for my use
18:40.29evlI really want an Autobar Alternative :(
18:40.34Sinaloitphyber: ah hadn't looked at the new AceLocale
18:40.42Neronix_G[string.format("ScrollingBattleChatEvent%dIncomingText", key)] -s way faster
18:40.49Neronixs/-/i/
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18:40.50Sinaloitmaia: no by tekkub
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18:40.50phyberSinaloit: I like your ace options table update though.
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18:40.51maiaoh. becuase the position menu is empty, so I cant place it anywhere but left - and also I havent figured out how to auto-hide the stuff from the real FuBar.
18:40.51phyberthat's neat :)
18:41.06Neronixfault #2.5: He does for "key, value in arrEventsData" when he can just do "index, value in ipairs(arrEventsData)"
18:41.09Neronixthe former's deprecated syntax too
18:41.15MikmaAndalia: the only problem is i don't know how to do the cross you use to mark creature-death :D
18:41.24NeronixMan, I'm acting like a grumpy old man here -_-
18:41.26Andaliaalt+0134
18:41.32Mikmayeah on pc sure :D
18:41.39Andaliaoh ^^
18:41.43maiaNeronix: other than that not using pairs(...) is deprecated, does it have any other effect?
18:41.50Andalia† <- copy that?
18:41.58Mikmanope :P well i'll use the *Victory!*
18:42.02Neronixipairs is faster than pairs when you're working with an array iirc
18:42.08[Ammo]wtf
18:42.11[Ammo]queues on the server
18:42.14[Ammo]1100+
18:42.17[Ammo]sigh
18:42.17MikmaAndalia: to be honest, a yellow "Victory!" would be nicer than the +Name of the mob+
18:42.27MikmaAndalia: and red "R.I.P" to describe character death :D
18:58.36Cartass[Ammo]!
18:58.36[Ammo]bloody migraters
18:58.36AndaliaMikma: Thats finetuning :P I'll do the more important stuff first
18:58.36[Ammo]:)
18:58.36CartassOn doing /who 1 I find 49+
18:58.36maiaNeronix: so anything that is indexed by an integer shall be used via ipairs(), and everything with a non-integer index is pairs(), right?
18:58.36CartassIt's because Battlegroup 8 are some of the only servers up, I think.
18:58.36[Ammo]must be people who's server is still down
18:58.36MikmaAndalia: i can do it for you lol
18:58.36[Ammo]yeah
18:58.37[Ammo]ohwell
18:58.37Neronixmaia: Yeah
18:58.37maiaNeronix: and both is faster than neither using any of them?
18:58.42[Ammo]going to lose internet anyway
18:58.45[Ammo]and regain in 2 hours
18:58.49[Ammo]need to install a new cablemodem
18:58.55[Ammo]should improve my inet connection though :O)
18:58.55NeronixI dunno if there's a difference between "for foo in table" and "for foo in pairs(table)"
18:59.00maiaokay
18:59.04Neronix"for foo in table" defaults to pairs I believe
18:59.04CartassWe're in Naxx., [Ammo].
18:59.22KyahxNeronix: Talkt o Greyhoof, hes been fairly open about optimizing SCT
18:59.26CartassA lot of UI problems atm :P
18:59.32[Ammo]hehe
18:59.50CartassMiniBlizzRaid is the only one not working I have.
18:59.53Cartass:(
18:59.57NeronixKyahx: I'm talking about his proof of conecpt battle chat code
19:00.06KyahxCartas: you don't need it anymore
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19:00.18KyahxBlizzard made their RaidUI truely LOD
19:00.34CartassOh?
19:00.34Neronixwhich was probably whipped up quickly, so it was wrong for me to act like an ass
19:00.41Kyahxand the frames are created in lua, so they dont take up memory unless your actually useing them
19:00.45ckknightNeronix, use pairs
19:00.50Kyahxbut now, lunch
19:00.50Neronixckknight: You seem to have missed the entire conversation :P
19:00.54ckknightright.
19:00.57ckknightI had breakfast.
19:01.25CartasHm
19:01.28CartasHelp!
19:01.32CartasHow do I manually enable the Blizzard Raidframe?
19:01.36Mikmadrag & drop
19:01.41CartasHm?
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19:01.48CartasI removed MiniBlizzRaid, but the raid frame is blank.
19:01.51NeronixEnableAddon("Blizzard_RaidUI")?
19:01.55CartasThanks
19:02.06Neronixnp
19:02.16CartasNope :(
19:02.16ckknightEnableAddOn
19:02.26Neronix"Caps has slain Neronix!"
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19:02.47Mikmatuplad has left the house!
19:02.51CIA-1103ckknight * r8818 10FuBar/ (4 files): FuBar - added Tooltip Transparency menu item.
19:03.10CartasSo, I do /EnableAddOn("Blizzard_RaidUI")
19:03.13Cartas?
19:17.45[Ammo]do: /script EnableAddOn("Blizzard_RaidUI")
19:17.46CartasAh, thanks.
19:17.50CIA-1103kaelten * r8819 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua:
19:17.50CIA-11Ace2 - AceLocale-2.1
19:17.50CIA-11- Tweaks
19:17.55CIA-11- Fixes
19:17.59CIA-11- Error messages
19:18.12Kaeltenor /ace enable Blizzard_RaidUI
19:18.16Kaeltenor /ace2 enable Blizzard_RaidUI
19:19.49evlWhat's the best function too hook if I want to do some processing when an action button is pressed? ActionButtonUp or ActionButtonDown?
19:20.01ckknightanyone have MCP?
19:20.04CIA-1103phyber * r8820 10FuBar_BagFu/ (BagFu.lua BagFuLocals.lua):
19:20.09CIA-11BagFu:
19:20.15CIA-11- Updated how options were handled. Taken from Sinaloit's branch. Thanks :)
19:20.15Kaeltenmcp?
19:20.18Kaeltenevl not sure how to answer that one
19:20.22Firedanceri use rophy's branch of it from the SVN
19:20.22ckknightMasterControlProgram
19:20.28Kaeltenoh, no
19:20.49ckknightFiredancer, what's the difference?
19:20.49NeronixTekkub: See if I'm gonna compost an array entry, is it safe to reclaim it and then table.remove it from the array?
19:21.03ckknightyea
19:21.10ckknightit is
19:21.14ckknightthough I'd actually do this:
19:39.24Neronixok, thanks
19:39.24Firedanceri hadn't used MCP in ages until a few days ago, but IIRC Saien's original didn't allow you to save sets and such
19:39.24ckknightCompost:Reclaim(table.remove(t))
19:39.24ckknightokay
19:40.08CIA-1103andalia 07andalia * r8821 10Teknicolor_tab/Core.lua:
19:40.13CIA-11Teknicolor_tab:
19:40.13CIA-11Performance improvement
19:41.45ckknightwhat's Teknicolor_tab?
19:41.49Mikmatabulator completion
19:41.55Sarozwhat's Teknicolor?
19:42.07Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Teknicolor
19:42.33SarozWhat's SVN?
19:42.39CIA-1103phyber * r8822 10FuBar_BagFu/FuBar_BagFu.toc:
19:42.39CIA-11BagFu:
19:42.42CIA-11- Haxed the .toc to update the X-Category and Interface version.
19:42.53evl"Color player names in chat by their corresponding raid class colors"
19:43.01Andaliawhat i imporved in my branch was something i fucked up myself earlier ^^
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19:43.41MikmaAndalia: what's special in your branch?
19:43.49Andaliais "string"..var always slower then string.format("string%s", var)?
19:58.52AndaliaMikma: I works with my branch of Teknicolor and has some minor changes i did.
19:58.52ckknightnot always, Andalia
19:58.52ckknightit's typically faster
19:58.53ckknightif var is a string, that is
19:58.53ckknightif var's a number or something, use string.format
19:59.01ckknightand if you have more than one concatenation, it can be faster to use string.format
19:59.02Neronixpurl: took you long enough
19:59.13Neronix~botwhip
19:59.17Andaliaso "string".."string" and string.format("string%s", 5)?
19:59.17Neronix%d
19:59.17ckknightright.
19:59.17sbuhmm
19:59.17ckknightNeronix, doesn't really matter.
19:59.17ckknight%s works fine.
19:59.17Neronix%s still does some kind of internal tostring which makes it slower
19:59.21Neronixit does matter
19:59.29NeronixIf you're certain that you'll be giving it a number, %d > %s
19:59.40Neronixif it could be nil, then %s or errors will be spewed
19:59.43CIA-1103ckknight * r8823 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - fixed detach tooltip error at beginning
19:59.43sbuany1 heard about rumours that instance servers will stay down till x hour?
19:59.52Andaliaso string.format("%s", nil) works and doesn't return "nil"?
20:00.13ckknightno, that errors.
20:00.31Neronixstring.format("%s", somethingThatMightNotExist) --> "nil"
20:00.35ckknightit'll say expected string, got nil
20:00.39ckknightno, Neronix
20:00.44Neronixstring.format("%d", somethingThatMightNotExist) --> ERROR
20:00.44NeronixIt works for me
20:00.47Mikmai can't believe this
20:01.01ckknight<PROTECTED>
20:01.05Mikmai'm actually playing a paladin
20:01.09ckknightI just did it.
20:01.09ckknighterror.
20:01.19ckknightMikma, hrm?
20:01.22NeronixI didn't pass a direct nil, just a var
20:01.22KyahxBoring eh/
20:01.26Kyahx:P
20:01.29Mikmackknight: yeah :( on a french-server
20:01.36ckknightyea, error
20:01.45NeronixI did stuff like self:Debug("hpmax is %s", hpmax) while wrestling with MH3
20:01.52ckknightMikma, just killing time?
20:01.54Mikmackknight: yeah, waiting for my server to get up
20:01.57ckknightNeronix, well, that's cause :Debug and :Print are special.
20:02.06NeronixI got "hpmax is nil" messages, no errors
20:02.19Sarozgive servers
20:02.19Neronixthey still use string.format, don't they?
20:02.22ckknightthey're not standard string.format's
20:02.29NeronixAh
20:02.36ckknightthey automatically tostring the nils
20:02.42Andaliai-need-to-log-in-and-do-some-testing!!!!!! fuck blizzard-europe
20:41.16Mikmait's a wonder that you can't login :P
20:41.16sbuare instance servers up? or just world servers?
20:41.17Firedancerare there any problems with 1.12 and Necronomicon? considering grabbing it from teh SVN instead of DLing necrosis for my baby warlock. i have multiple alt syndrome :(
20:41.17Mikmai got in the "vor'til" or something french-server without queue
20:41.17evlHaha: http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6696/imgettingsuedwf8.gif
20:41.17sbuuhm yah... 'something french' - guess why ;)
20:41.17AndaliaMikma: But now it has a queue of ~300 and so you can't create new chars
20:41.17Firedancerevl: lol
20:41.17Amafievl: haha,that's hilarious
20:41.17MakkFire Blast cooldown is fuckd.
20:41.17Makkon oCD
20:41.17NeronixRetardation Stamp of Approval!
20:41.22MikmaAndalia: wth? i could
20:41.31sbuhmm - that instance server down message is fake?
20:41.31hasteMakk: depends on your actionbar ;)
20:41.40CIA-1103sinaloit 07sinaloit * r8824 10FuBar_BagFu/:
20:41.44CIA-11FuBar_BagFu:
20:41.44CIA-11- Deleting my Branch, mission accomplished.
20:41.56MakkI use oCB
20:42.02Makkoh
20:42.05Makkactionbar
20:42.10hastethat's not a actionbar
20:42.14MakkCardBars :P
20:42.17hasteworks fine for me with cardbars :<
20:42.24evlno support :(
20:42.35Makkeverything else works
20:42.35hasteevl: I used cardbars for ages myself
20:42.46evltry it with the default bars?
20:42.50Makkbut Fire blast gives me like 60m cooldwon
20:43.03haste:<
20:43.15Amafidamn...1500+ queues on all online realms it seems
20:43.27hasteevl: tell me how to re-create it, and I might be able to help :p
20:43.33maiagah, its time to optimize SpecialEvents - and not get Tekkub to convertCorkFu to SE2: http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7799/tektotaltimeyh0.png
20:43.41evlnot me, i don't have problems
20:43.48hastelike, macro? what actionbar button? actionbar bar? actionbar page?
20:43.51evlme rogue, i press sinister, mob dies, i get remorseless, much fun!
20:44.02maiathe UNIT_AURA ate 33.000ms within 15 minutes play time.
20:44.02CIA-1103rophy 07Rophy * r8825 10ParserLib/Parser-2.0/Parser-2.0.lua:
20:44.07CIA-11Parser-2.0 (Rophy branch)
20:44.12CIA-11- Bye bye info table :(
20:44.12CIA-11- It only works for me so don't bother downloading it.
20:44.24NeronixThe info table's GONE?
20:44.28Firedancermaia: eek
20:44.32NeronixHmm, interesting
20:44.36hastenoes!
20:44.39hasteI'm running a update of my add ons now
20:44.43Amafievl: only way to play a rogue. I have to do all the stealth,CS,backstab,gouge,backstab,KS,backstab,eviscerate stuff now...I miss being sword specced :(
20:44.43hasteSCL will probably break 'cause of that commit :p
20:44.50Neronixdoing foo(nil) is 5-10% slower than doing foo()
20:44.54JensOh I just love all the armchair sysadmins that flame at Blizzard every time there's the slightest hiccup with the servers.
20:44.54evlAmafi: I'm doing that too now, sword spec is boring x 10, i'd rather go play whack a mole
20:44.58RophySCL still uses ParserLib 1.1 haste
20:45.02Firedancermy main is a rogue. 35combat (swords) 16assass is much fun ^_^
20:45.08hasteRophy: ah
20:45.12evlJens: yeah, like they know how to administer ten footballfields of boxes
20:45.16Mikmai really kinda like FCT
20:45.21phyberso, how likely is it that the EU techs have gone home and no more realms will come up tonight? :|
20:45.26evlnot likely
20:45.26evlthey work until they are up
20:45.30JensExactly. Just because you can manage your own Windows XP box, doesn't mean you know shit about enterprise server management... go back to your room.
20:45.33evlthink about the amount of cash they lose on reimbursing one day
20:45.39snurrehttp://www.theasylum.cc/video/SNAKES.mov
20:45.46RophyNeronix, yes so now you have to declare...
21:07.12Rophyfunction MyAddon:Parser_Hit(source, victim, skill, amount, element, isCrit, isDOT, isSplit, isCrushing, isGlancing, amountAbsorb, amountBlock, amountResist, amountVulnerable)
21:07.12Amafiyeah,I'm fairly sure they're sweating over there now
21:07.12Rophyand not MyAddon:Parser_Hit(info)
21:07.12Rophygg
21:07.12Amafias much as the players don't want downtime,I'm sure blizzard and the people running the data certers want it even less
21:07.12Neronixwell, it's definitely faster than recycling a table on every event
21:07.12Amafier,centers
21:07.12phyberJens: referring to any forum threads in particular?
21:07.13phybersomething to read would be good :)
21:07.13JensWell, I'm still trolling my guild forums out of habit, even though I left WoW :)
21:07.25phyberah.
21:07.32RophyNeronix, the impact of recycling a table is nothing compared to the overhead of parsing combatlogs.
21:07.49JensIt would be massively interesting if Blizzard would do an article on the backend of WoW.
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21:07.49Amafiyeah,I'd love to read that
21:07.49JensI'd love to hear what hardware and software they've got running this show.
21:07.49NeronixRophy: True, but it's a welcome improvement
21:07.49JensHandling millions of clients ain't no small feat.
21:07.49Amafitrufax
21:07.49Rophyoh and, I am still recycling a table :p
21:07.49NeronixAll that we know is that they run Linux and OracleDB
21:07.49Rophyjust not mapping it into a info table.
21:07.53NeronixAh
21:07.59JensHow do we know that?
21:07.59maiaI have some details.
21:08.04NeronixJens: Job postings + a severwide message by sysadmins while they were fixing a server
21:08.09knodithey should release a video "Patch day behind the screen"
21:08.09maiahere's the proof:
21:08.09maiahttp://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6464/billgatesfaultft4.jpg
21:08.09JensAh.
21:08.09CIA-1103kaelten * r8826 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua:
21:08.09CIA-11Ace2 - AceLocale-2.1
21:08.09CIA-11- Tweaks and fixes of bugs.
21:08.09Neronixmaia wins
21:08.09maiaAll crashes are Bill Gates fault.
21:08.09JensHa ha.
21:08.15maiawas back in early closed beta though
21:08.15JensI should apply for GM job... I'd love to move to France.
21:08.15FiredancerCockpit is neat!
21:08.15CIA-1103ckknight * r8827 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: Tablet - typo
21:08.15snurrebe prepared to miss out on alot of raiding, Jens :p
21:08.15Amafifrance is nice,but I've somehow managed to completely forget the language since 9th grade
21:08.15Kaeltenckknight: can ArgCheck check for more than 1 type?
21:08.15maiafinally an addon with the letters c-o-c-k in it.
21:08.15ckknightyes, Kaelten
21:08.15ckknightup to 5 types
21:08.15Kaeltenself:argCheck(flag, 3, "boolean", "table")?
21:08.16ckknightright.
21:08.16Kaeltenkk
21:08.16JensI don't speak french, but I'd like to learn it. And France rocks.
21:08.16Makknow Frost Nova and Berserking are running paralell with the same cooldowns
21:08.20Kaeltenoh and what is the second argument?
21:08.39Neronixthe arg number
21:08.48snurrefrance is.. unnecessary difficult
21:08.48Neronixfunction self:kek(foo, bar, baz) -- foo is arg 2
21:09.17NeronixI think it's only used for the error message
21:10.00ckknightright.
21:10.20ckknightself.kek(self, foo, bar, baz) -- foo is arg 2
21:10.42ckknightso it'll say "Something with Argument #2"
21:10.49CIA-1103rophy * r8828 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib - Fixed: typo in 'isPerform' field for 'cast'.
21:11.14Neronix"Bad argument #2. Expected string, number or table, got milk"
21:11.32FISKER_Qgonna try this because i'm stoned: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=yhxb0xZZxreohGRqo
21:11.42Amafiwhat kind of main hand weapon are you using with it?
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21:27.55CIA-1103maia * r8829 10Squishy/ (core.lua frames.lua): Squishy: now using pairs() / ipairs() syntax everywhere.
21:27.55JensOh %deity%... WoWToc has about 2 million downloads.
21:27.55NeronixPeople still use that?
21:27.55Laric_ppl still think fixing an addon for a new version is updating the .toc
21:27.55CIA-1103maia * r8830 10RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.lua: RosterLib-2.0: using pairs() where I didnt already.
21:27.55Neronix%deity_son%!
21:27.55ckknightI think I solved the whole random placement issue.
21:27.56JensIf you have an account on Cursegaming, go put in some 0 votes :)
21:27.56ckknightand I have prepared a statement:
21:27.56ckknight"my bad"
21:27.56Laric_ckknight who cares as long as it works
21:28.00NeronixWill you now take questions from the press?
21:28.00ckknightno comment.
21:28.05Laric_my wife is killing me about that issue :P
21:28.15Sinaloitwouldn't %diety_offspring% be better Neronix?
21:28.28NeronixSuppose so :P
21:28.33Jens%deity_child_process%
21:28.50Neronixkill -9 %deity_pid%
21:29.08ckknightbasically, instead of having it set up 0.01 seconds after PEW, I'm just making it set up after AceEvent_FullyInitialized
21:29.16ckknighttada, problem solved.
21:29.33CodayusSigns you may be too tired to code:  You mispell "OnEnter" as "OnEnger".
21:29.37Jens"kill -9 %deity_pid%" --Nietzsche.
21:29.45ckknightlol.
21:29.49Neronixhehe
21:29.55CodayusSigns you are clearly too tired to code:  You mispell "OnLEave" as "OnEnger" as well.
21:30.37Laric_what exactly does pairs/ipairs do?
21:30.45ckknightlaric, it creates an iterator
21:30.52NeronixA sign that you may be a nympho: You misspell "wand" as "wang"
21:30.58CIA-1103ckknight * r8831 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - fixed placement issues. probably.
21:30.58oxmannice work [Ammo], ora is ok ;)
21:31.23ckknightpairs(t) => next, t, nil
21:31.27ckknightso next(t, nil) gives the first arg
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21:31.44ckknightnext(t, arg) gives the second arg
21:31.50ckknightnext(t, arg2) gives the third arg
21:31.58Neronixif you were doing "for foo in table", "for foo in pairs(table)" is equivelant
21:31.58ckknightnext(t, arg3) gives nil, cause you're out of args
21:52.39ckknightand you're done.
21:52.39CIA-1103kaelten * r8832 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua: (log message trimmed)
21:52.40CIA-11Ace2 - AceLocale-2.1
21:52.40CIA-11The following functions now can take a Localized object as a argument.
21:52.41CIA-11-SetDynamicLocales
21:52.41CIA-11-SetStrictness
21:52.41CIA-11-GetReverseTranslation
21:52.48Neronixand the former is deprecated
21:52.48CIA-11-HasTranslation
21:52.52Laric_is it faster or more resource effiecient?
21:52.55ckknightKaelten, SetDynamicLocales?
21:52.56Kaeltenyep
21:52.56Neronixno, but it's the way you're expected to use it
21:52.56ckknightwhat's it do?
21:52.56Neronixif you want to iterate an array, ipairs is faster
21:52.56Kaeltenit enables caching of localizations so that you can switch them if you want to
21:52.56Neronixbut doesn't work for non-arrays
21:52.57Kaeltenor even offer non standard ones
21:52.57FISKER_QAmafi i'm using vis'kag
21:53.01ckknightalright.
21:53.23AmafiFISKER_Q: ah,nice
21:53.26Kaeltenso you can AceLocale:GetLocale("OneBag", "klignon") or whatever.
21:53.35ckknightalright
21:53.44ckknightWorf'd probably do that.
21:53.44AmafiI've been considering trying a hemo build if I ever get my hands on a suitable weapon,but for now I guess I'm doing allright with my combat daggers spec
21:53.52Worfhuh? is one doing a Klingon Translation?
21:54.02Amafias long as I don't try to pvp at least
21:54.11Kaeltenlol, not atm but I can support it now.
21:54.16FISKER_QQQ :(
21:54.27FISKER_Qi want daggers
21:54.43FISKER_Qi don't think i want to do Combat swords anymore
21:54.47Worfah, i'm living among Humans for too long..
21:54.54FISKER_Qsword spec nerf was just over the top
21:54.54ckknightplease test FuBar
21:54.59ckknighteveryone.
21:55.12ckknightespecially people who had issues previously.
21:55.21AmafiI'm using lobo in my mainhand now...I really,really need something better
21:55.26FISKER_Qoh
21:55.39Amafibut I used all my dkp on CHT for my offhand recently
21:55.43Neronixbtw ckknight, I have a problem with dewdrop:FeedAceOptionsTable()
21:55.46FISKER_Qi'll get right on it when blizzard stopped humping our hamsters
21:55.55Amafiso I guess it'll be a while
21:55.55FISKER_Q:(
21:55.59ckknightNeronix, oh?
21:56.06FISKER_Qwant servers up again :(
21:56.13NeronixSome of the submenus created don't appear
21:56.17Laric_ckknight line 1500 in fubar.lua isnt that kinda bad? :P
21:56.26Neronixif you want a pastebin, look at DeuceCommander
21:56.26Laric_spam my chatwindow3 :P
21:56.30ckknightah, hell.
21:56.34snurrewtb http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4446-1-shaduniquemt_targetssut.html included in some other addon :p
21:56.43CIA-1103ckknight * r8833 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - whoopsie doodle.
21:56.51Healthparser lib br0ken?
21:56.51ckknightyes, Rophy's working on it
21:56.51Healthokie!
22:21.40Laric_ckknight so the fix is generally that you expected everything to be ready to place the addons in 0.01 seconds before and not when ace was ready to do it?
22:21.40ckknightright, I was relying on a hack inside AceEvent
22:21.40ckknightbut after >8 plugins, it took more than 0.01 seconds to do
22:21.44Laric_oh ok :P very nice that you found it
22:22.00Laric_I have 5 plugins i think
22:22.00ckknightso now instead of relying on that hack, I wait until an appropriate time to set up
22:22.08ckknighti.e. after AceEvent_FullyInitialized
22:22.28Laric_15 even
22:22.56Sinaloitckknight: Any idea if: http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=220 is Dewdrop, ModMenuTuFu or sctd?
22:22.56Laric_I wish for the day tortoise have a nice option.. update ignore-externals :P
22:22.56ckknightI agree.
22:22.57NeronixTekkub: See when reclaiming in compost, does depth default to 0?
22:22.57NeronixLaric_: update to revision --> look at the checkbox
22:22.57Neronixwinrar
22:22.57Kaeltenckknight: ok, now it has a few second delay until the widgets are visable
22:23.08Kaeltenand FuXpFu orwhatever the pretty one is named takes an extra few seconds
22:23.23ckknightSinaloit, by definition, Dewdrop, but it's probably ModMenuTuFu
22:24.00ckknightKaelten, I know
22:24.09ckknightbut it works!
22:24.50Kaeltenhehe
22:24.50Kaeltentrue
22:24.50ckknightsince the nature of FuBar is very modular and decoupled, there's no definite way to make sure initialization of the plugin properly happens before setup
22:25.12ckknightwell, without adding horrible layers of complexity
22:25.22Laric_Neronix thanks :PPPP
22:25.27Kaeltenwell it doesn't bother me.
22:25.46ckknightbasically, it should happen at PLAYER_LOGIN or PEW, or somewhere around there, but FuBar can't tell for sure, and it can't tell whether its event comes before or after the plugins
22:25.51Kaeltenis it working of a time delayed loop there or something?
22:40.46ckknightKaelten, yes, it was using a small delay (0.01 seconds), but that wasn't enough
22:40.48ckknightso now I have it using AceEvent_FullyInitialized
22:40.57Kaeltenah
22:41.02ckknightwhich occurs once, after the whole UI is initialized
22:41.05ckknightbut it should work now, and it should always work
22:41.07Laric_that event.. is that after every oninitialize and after all onenable?
22:41.42ckknightyes
22:41.43ckknightit's 0.05 seconds after the last channel is joined
22:41.50ckknightor, if relogged, 1 second after MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED
22:41.59ckknightor something.
22:42.09Kaeltenlol
22:42.12ckknighteither way, it occurs after all channels are joined, and everything is set up
22:42.24ckknightno matter if you properly logged in or it's a relog
22:43.39CIA-1103ckknight * r8834 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - bugfix... maybe.
22:43.39ckknightoh well, you can survive waiting 1 second before your plugins show up
22:43.39Jagobahhmmm
22:43.50JagobahI may or may not need a main tank frame mod for oRA2 testing
22:54.38HealthAny rev of parserlib that is alive?
22:54.38Neronixckknight: Is that bugfix related to my problem?
22:54.38NeronixHealth: trunk
22:54.55HealthI'm on trunk
22:55.05ckknightwhat was your problem, Neronix?
22:55.11NeronixI thought it was only branches that was unstable
22:55.21Healthjust checked out sct - downloaded a broken parserlib as external
22:55.27Neronixckknight: Some submenus not appearing while using FeedAceOptionsTable
22:55.37ckknightprobably not, then.
22:55.40Kaeltenok AceLocale2.1 is working as best I can tell
22:55.50ckknightNeronix, you're probably using it wrong, my best bet.
22:56.17ckknightKaelten, alright, lemme poke at it
22:56.36Kaeltenk, test it break it love it.
22:56.49KaeltenI'm going to make up some documentation to confuse people  now
22:56.55[Ammo]did the API change?
22:57.02CIA-1103rophy * r8835 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib - Fix typo
22:57.16Healthhooray
22:57.33ckknightKaelten, gonna hack :-P
22:57.37Kaeltengonna hack?
22:57.39Kaeltenwhy?
22:57.51ckknightfor mystical magicalness?
22:57.51Kaeltenlol
22:57.54ckknightbtw, can an instance be registered with AceLibrary properly?
22:57.56Kaeltenyou mean of AceLocale2.1?  it registers no problem
22:57.59ckknightokay
22:58.00ckknightgonna change the tostring, at least, then
23:10.25Kaeltenno don't
23:10.26ckknightwhy not?
23:10.26ckknightI think the way 2.0 does it is good
23:10.44Kaeltenwell two things
23:10.47ckknightk
23:11.01Kaelten1, the object that the tostring in there is set from never gets registered with acelibrary
23:11.19Kaelten2, it needs to return name so that the GetReverseTranslation(L, "bob") works right
23:11.30ckknighthrm
23:11.30ckknightalright...
23:11.38ckknightthat seems hackish.
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23:12.02Kaeltenhrm, don't see why.
23:12.02ckknightyou should use uids instead, I'd say
23:12.03ckknightbecause tostring(FuBarLocale) == "FuBar"
23:12.04ckknightwhich it isn't
23:12.18Kaeltenhrm
23:12.24KirovHas anyone reported issues with other mods interacting with AceComm?
23:12.34Kaeltenbut its the equivilent of an uid
23:12.41Mikmaomg, i'm lvl7 already :P
23:12.42sbuhmmm
23:12.45Mikmaand have hadto run 2 times in a bubble
23:12.45sbuis detox ready to use? ;o
23:12.46KirovAnyone?
23:12.48ckknightbut the tostring is not what it's meant to be
23:12.51ckknightKirov, *shrug*
23:12.52Kaeltenhrm
23:12.53Kaeltenlet me look for a second
23:13.13sbumaia? :)
23:13.15maiahuh?
23:13.25Laric_detox works i think.. atleast it did pre 1.12 :P
23:13.42Laric_couldnt really test it yesterday as I got the 1.12 version wich used acecomm and acecomm wasnt pre 1.12 combatible
23:14.09sbuhm i c
23:14.13maiaLaric: Detox isnt using AceComm
23:14.26sbuso its already a 'full' detox replacement?
23:30.24sbuerrr
23:30.24sbudecursive
23:30.25maiayeah
23:30.25sbunice :)
23:30.25sbu*delete*
23:30.26CIA-1103kaelten * r8836 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.1/AceLocale-2.1.lua:
23:30.29CIA-11Ace2 - AceLocale-2.1
23:30.32CIA-11- Changed tostring back to 2.0 version
23:30.35Kaeltenckknight: ok it now uses a uid system instead
23:30.45ckknightalso, you save the functions, which 2.0 deliberately doesn't do
23:30.56ckknightit's so the strings can be properly GC'd
23:31.06Laric_maia sorry was thinking squishy :P
23:31.08Kaeltenright, unless you enable dynamic locales they are purged after you call GetTranslation
23:31.12ckknighthrm...
23:31.18maiahmm, tekSupport stopped woring using the latest Tablet-2.0
23:31.23CIA-1103gamefaq * r8837 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocals.lua: BagFu - Updated deDE Translation
23:31.45Mikmaanyone remembers the hex for gold?
23:31.54Kaeltenthe __privatevar__ format is a little hackish, I have plans to change them to table keys
23:31.56ckknightMikma, see CrayonLib
23:32.07Mikmackknight: hmm good idea :)
23:32.07ckknightKaelten, sounds good
23:32.24ckknightI like the look of it, though
23:32.39KirovMikma - http://www.december.com/html/spec/color1.html
23:32.49Kaeltenthe little benchmakrs I've done show that a L.bob style reference has nearly no overhead
23:32.54ckknightI still think there's gotta be a way to get L:HasTranslation("Monkey")
23:32.56Kaeltenafter nearly 50k lookups it uses nearly no memory and generally less than a second.
23:39.37ckknightI'll figure it out :-P
23:39.44ckknightsounds great
23:39.45ckknightcompared to 2.0, how is it?
23:39.46Kaeltenwell there *is* but it involves giving up some of that effeciany
23:39.50MikmaAndalia: 1 thing i would like to see in BattleChat :) * Aggro! *
23:39.50Kaeltenone test I did showed it uses about a quarter of the memory and time  maybe a little better
23:39.54phyberGamefaq|afk: :D
23:39.55phyberGamefaq|afk: saw the "translate me!" stuff then, eh? ;)
23:39.59FISKER_Qrofl
23:40.00FISKER_Qjust sent a picture of kane to someone
23:40.00FISKER_Q"Omg it's yuri"
23:40.01Kaeltenckknight: one thought I had was that I could work up __call to handle the functionality of reverse strict and has
23:40.03FISKER_Q*hand on the face man-ascii"
23:40.11Kaeltenso you could do L("Bob", "HasTranslation")
23:40.23Kaeltenor L("Bob" "Strict")
23:40.25Kaeltenerr L("Bob", "Strict")
23:40.34ckknighthrm...
23:40.36Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/loladin.jpg
23:40.36Mikmaheh
23:40.37Mikmamy new layout + BattleChat
23:40.37Kaeltenthat would provide the functionality without forcing calls to AceLibrary.  and would keep things clean
23:40.37ckknightmaybe L("HasTranslation", "Bob")
23:40.37maiaanyone else having a bug in tekSupport when tracking events (and not updates)? as soon as I hover over the icon to see the events, I end up with an error messge:  attempt to index local `obj' (a function value)
23:40.37Kaeltenthats doable
23:40.37ckknightand L("Bob") would be standard
23:40.37ckknightand L("GetStrict", "Bob") also there
23:40.39Laric_maia what do you use for minimap?
23:40.39maianothing
23:40.39Laric_and is that monkey you are using for quest?
23:40.40ckknightmaia, where is the error?
23:50.43maia[2006/08/23 21:56:47-491]: tekSupport\Events.lua:91: attempt to index local `obj' (a function value)
23:50.43maiatekSupport\Events.lua:91: in function `OnTooltipUpdate'
23:50.43maiatekSupport\Core.lua:32: in function `OnTooltipUpdate'
23:50.43maiaFuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:182: in function <...dOns\OnTime\libs\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:178>
23:50.43maiaTablet-2.0\Tablet-2.0.lua:2121: in function `children'
23:50.43maiaTablet-2.0\Tablet-2.0.lua:2131: in function `Open'
23:50.43maiaTablet-2.0\Tablet-2.0.lua:2255: in function <...erface\AddOns\Squishy\libs\Tablet-2.0\Tablet-2.0.lua:2249>
23:50.43Kaeltenk, I'll work it up real quick
23:50.46ckknightodd
23:50.50maiafor you it will probably be line 87
23:50.57ckknightsounds great, though, Kael
23:50.57maiaI added 4 debug lines before ;)
23:51.23maiackknight: I just pulled all updates from the SVN - 2min ago.
23:51.30Laric_and what is the name of that xp bar below fubar?
23:51.33ckknightmaia, well, it's a tekSupport bug, I'd sya
23:51.37ckknightsay*
23:51.40ckknightlaric, FuXPFu
23:51.41KebinusanLaric fuxpfu
23:51.43Gamefaq|afkwow our server is up...with only 4 hours delay...
23:51.58maiackknight: probably.
23:52.07Laric_pulling it :P
23:52.20maiajust strange that I didnt have it before.,
23:52.37HealthI wonder how well dhud will work inside cross battlegrounds.. with the new return value of unit stuff
23:52.41FISKER_Qomg
23:52.45NeronixAndalia: Do you still plan on adding spell icons?
23:52.50FISKER_Qafter 19 hours of hamsterhumping our server is finally up
23:52.50Mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4949-Rumil's_3D_Unit_Models.html
23:53.08Kaeltenckknight: hrm well now we have one issue is how to allow loose translations
23:53.13ckknightL("GetTranslation", "Bob")
23:53.15Laric_finally stormrage-eu is coming up :P
23:53.43ckknightor "GetLoose", "Bob"
23:53.52eternally777After you :Enable() a button ( after performing :Disable() on it ), do you need to reregister for clicks?
23:54.11CIA-1103ckknight * r8838 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB - fix possible freeze
23:54.25ckknighteternally777, I'd say no
23:54.35eternally777Fascinating, ty
23:54.38*** join/#wowace Tuplad^affk (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)
23:54.57MikmaAndalia: yaya my server came up =)
23:55.12oxmanmy is up since 3 hours
23:55.12oxman;p
23:55.47dreyruugrckknight: http://pastebin.com/774286 <-- is there a better way to do this?  When the menu is refreshed, this is no longer what it was before the refresh

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