irclog2html for #wowace on 20060820

00:02.13Mikmaok that was nice run
00:03.18*** join/#wowace ag` (n=andreasg@209.125.3.23)
00:03.27HealthHuh?
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00:04.02Neronixag`: Some random person tried to mess about with agUF
00:04.03HealthI got the Rajaxx start message twice today.. "Wave 1/8" .... "Wave 1/8"
00:04.12ag`Neronix: like what?
00:04.14ag`:P
00:04.16NeronixMikma got Tekkub to revert it
00:04.19Neronixhang on, fetching log
00:04.27Mikmayeah
00:04.29ag`you can just revert it if is a lame change
00:04.35Mikmait was :P
00:04.35Neronixthe guy was cheeky in his commit notes too
00:04.39ag`like what?
00:04.50Mikmahe changed the font to some other
00:04.52Mikmait was HUGE
00:04.58Mikmaand he changed the layouts
00:04.59Neronix"Don't come crying to me"
00:05.08Mikmaalso changed the update from 0.5 to 0.2 and..
00:05.13NeronixWhy the fuck should people not cry to him when it's him that fucked about with shit
00:05.38Mikmayeah tekkub was lovely and reverted the old revision back
00:05.54ag`0.5 seriously seems fine to me, and I'm a raid healer :P
00:06.23Mikmajust a moment
00:06.27Mikmapulling the revision history
00:06.39Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/log/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/
00:07.18Neronixhttp://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/log/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/?rev=8450
00:08.17Kyahxag`: there were alot of complaints about it being slow to update
00:08.36Mikmait's fine actually
00:09.10NeronixJust reading the forum post
00:09.14ag`It's not 0.5 after each event... It's every 0.5 it updates
00:09.15Neronixthe guy wants to recommit
00:09.29Neronix0.3 is the absolute fastest it should ever be
00:09.39Mikmaoooooh i wan't to reply to him
00:10.00Kyahxpraid is 0.2
00:10.02Kyahxbut yea
00:10.07Kyahxthere is zero reason to update EVERY event
00:10.13Kyahxwhich is what stupid people seem to want....
00:10.19ag`anyway not sure he should change the default themes
00:10.58ag`but we can go ahead and make it update health more often
00:10.59Kyahxag`: could't you just add an option for a refresh rate like XRS does?
00:11.04ag`I could do that as well yes
00:11.05Mikmaaaand i have got a pm from in in forums about it too
00:11.08Kyahxthen people can make it as slow or fast as they want.
00:11.26Kyahxon my rouge I could care less about accuracy, 0.5 is fast enough
00:11.28Mikmaag`: well still people need to learn not to commit in the trunk unless they have permission to do it :P
00:11.40ag`yes, I would just have to make some changes to allow the units to reregister their events to the new speed
00:12.17Kyahxhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1715.msg36760.html#msg36760
00:12.21Kyahxthis guy is a tard
00:12.24Kyahxand needs to gtfo
00:12.46Kyahxhe has no idea what kind of preformance differance he is talking about with bucket'd events
00:13.40NeronixAnd the bs he posted about optimising at the end
00:13.46Neronix*smites*
00:13.49Kyahxlol
00:13.57Kyahxnah, Mind Blast still hits for more
00:14.00Kyahx:P
00:14.23NeronixI mean the karma smite ;P
00:14.55Kyahxdone and done
00:15.10Mikmaag`: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3074-1-portraits.html
00:15.15Mikmalol you have done them! ;)
00:15.21ag`yes
00:15.24ag`I did them for a friend
00:15.28ag`I think
00:16.15NeronixMikma: :O, what did the pm say?
00:16.53ag`anyway buckets doesn't add a 0.5 DELAY
00:16.58ag`it updates every 0.5
00:17.04Mikmanr.1: Hi Mikma,
00:17.04MikmaI noticed you wanted a revert on ag_UF - I was wondering what you saw (so I can learn what I did wrong! Smiley  )
00:17.07MikmaThanks!!
00:17.10MikmaBrian
00:17.14Mikmanr.2: Nevermind, no need to yell - I know what I did wrong, which was really thinking I knew what I was doing in the first place.
00:17.27ag`this means that 50% of all events will be updated in 0.25 or less
00:17.55Nightdewag`: i thought u were leaving for a few weeks... ur vacation cut short?
00:18.29Mikman=andreasg@209.125.3.23
00:18.39Mikmathis tells me he's ircing somewhere else than home ;D
00:18.56ag`Nightdew: I'm on my hotelroom now
00:19.03Nightdewhehe kewl
00:19.13NeronixSo, the course of action is...: 1) Tell Miles to stop talking out his arse, and if he wants to continue, learn wtf he's talking about, 2) Tell this Deselphynx guy that he had no right to modify trunk nor has he the right to be the de-facto maintainer. If he wants changes, he's got to branch like a normal person
00:19.26NeronixI'll get started on 1
00:20.03MikmaNeronix: well i did the 50% of nr.1
00:20.03Kyahxheh
00:20.16Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1715.msg36834.html#msg36834
00:21.26Mikmalol someone smited him
00:21.31Mikmamoment ago he had +1/0
00:22.29SarozI'm +9/-4
00:22.29Mikmalol
00:22.31Saroz:/
00:22.39KyahxI have like -15 or something
00:22.58Kyahx*shrug*
00:23.02ag`Anyway I don't want to be evil and tell people they can't help out
00:23.07ag`changes should just be a bit more conservative
00:23.15KyahxDon't worry ag', we'll scold the dumb ones for you
00:23.23Kyahxand you can encourage the people who actually help. hehe
00:23.27Mikmaag`: nobody is that evil, just enough evil to tell them to GO BRANCH YOURSELF!
00:23.35hastehttp://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-grimbatol-en&t=18792&p=1&tmp=1#post18792 << haha, someone hates me :p
00:24.27Mikmahaste: no, read it again
00:24.53hastehuh?
00:25.02ag`purl, no, Haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
00:25.04purlokay, ag`
00:25.07Neronixhow's this: Excuse me, but... do you know what you're talking about, or how event bucketing works and why we do it or the fact that you [b]need[/b] to optimize in a game environment ("Dont" ? Are you serious?)
00:25.27ag`~haste
00:25.28purlhmm... haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
00:25.36Saroz~neronix
00:25.41Saroz...
00:26.35Neronix~emulate Neronix
00:26.37purlX-Perl is HUEG LIEK PS3
00:26.37MikmaNeronix: just don't verbalsmite the other guy, i think he figured it out now :D
00:27.02NeronixThat one's for the polytard who doesn't like optimizing
00:27.12ag`~haste
00:27.13purlrumour has it, haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
00:27.17Neronixor thinks that unit frames can somehow handle hundreds of health updates per second
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00:27.31NeronixSure, they could if they were written in fucking binary
00:27.34Neronixbut this is lua
00:27.38*** join/#wowace Rophy (n=chatzill@218-170-25-49.dynamic.hinet.net)
00:28.33hastehaha, check the replies now :p
00:29.31NeronixKeep your tentacles away from me! :O
00:30.19hastea shaman in my guild renamed his char to tentacle when he transfered :p
00:31.58ag`~haste
00:31.59purlrumour has it, haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
00:33.10hasteit has to be the best post this year :p
00:34.17ag`maybe I should add one of the other quotes
00:34.34hasteIndustrial: "IK heb een boot/.,.... ik heb een hele hel mooie boot ze heet anna en ze ligt in de sloot!!!!" << what's that :D ?
00:34.35Neronixhttp://ace.pastey.net/330-sx0d - Am I badass enough?
00:34.58Industrialoh thats a stupid dutch cover for boten anna
00:35.02Neronixhaste: I believe it translates to "bork bork bork"
00:35.29Neronixwhich would be slightly wrong
00:35.35tumetomdo you know how do scroll the chatframe to the bottom?
00:37.29hastecan't you just use Tek's little mod?
00:37.33hasteso I don't have to look it up :p
00:38.00ag`~haste
00:38.01purlrumour has it, haste is a very pervert guy, he always makes porn voices on Ventrilo.
00:39.19tumetomTeks little mod?
00:39.22Neronixpurl: emulate ag` is <reply>~haste
00:39.25purl...but emulate ag` is already something else...
00:39.26Neronixtumetom: TheLowDown
00:39.32Neronix~emulate ag`
00:39.34purlNo, that can't be my bug. Disable all your addons, delete your WTF, empty your trashbin, wash the dog and throw a magnet on your harddrive. Oh, you still get the bug? Ok, I'll take a look at it
00:39.43Neronix~literal emulate ag`
00:39.44purl"emulate ag`" is "<reply>No, that can't be my bug. Disable all your addons, delete your WTF, empty your trashbin, wash the dog and throw a magnet on your harddrive. Oh, you still get the bug? Ok, I'll take a look at it"
00:40.12Neronixpurl no, emulate ag` is <reply>(No, that can't be my bug. Disable all your addons, delete your WTF, empty your trashbin, wash the dog and throw a magnet on your harddrive. Oh, you still get the bug? Ok, I'll take a look at it|~haste)
00:40.14purlNeronix: okay
00:40.29haste~emulate ag`
00:40.31purl~haste
00:40.36ag`:P
00:40.38hasteaaw, it doesn't trigger itself
00:40.46Neronixperhaps...
00:40.48ag`commit the bug
00:40.53Neronixpurl no, emulate ag` is <reply>(No, that can't be my bug. Disable all your addons, delete your WTF, empty your trashbin, wash the dog and throw a magnet on your harddrive. Oh, you still get the bug? Ok, I'll take a look at it|~haste <haste>)
00:40.55purlNeronix: okay
00:40.59Neronix~emulate ag`
00:41.00purl~haste <haste>
00:41.05ag`:<
00:41.09Neronixzomgwtf
00:41.10hastewhy shuld that work :p ?
00:41.40Neronix~reply and ~action are both commands, and in factoids they can be accessed via <FOO>
00:41.41purland ~action are both commands, and in factoids they can be accessed via <FOO>
00:41.46Neronixso I thought any facoid could
00:41.53Neronix¬.¬
00:42.31*** join/#wowace Gamefaq (i=Gamefaq@pD9E63535.dip.t-dialin.net)
00:42.54Neronixpurl no, emulate ag` is <reply>(No, that can't be my bug. Disable all your addons, delete your WTF, empty your trashbin, wash the dog and throw a magnet on your harddrive. Oh, you still get the bug? Ok, I'll take a look at it|~haste)
00:42.55purlokay, Neronix
00:46.01Kyahxhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1764.0;id=487;image
00:46.03KyahxO.O
00:51.48Mikmathat's liek, alot crap
00:52.00Mikmaag`: !
00:52.10ag`huh`?
00:52.10Mikmaag`: masterlooter icon sticks around and does not go away
00:52.29ag`ok^^
00:52.52ag`Don't expect me to do anything about until I get back home ^_^
00:53.05Mikmano i don't :)
00:54.15NeronixKyahx: I cant even see the world
00:54.23Neronixor enough to work out what's happening
00:54.29Kyahxlol
00:54.31Kyahxsame
00:54.35MikmaKyahx: liek, alot crap.
00:54.38Neronixapart from a line of loladins trying to do something
00:54.49Kyahxheh
00:54.52NeronixSilly loladins rolling pretend-priests
00:55.02Kyahxnah, most are rolling pretend warriors
00:55.18Kyahxthey can manage to be bad-priests, not pretend :P
00:55.31NeronixYeah, but what people want them to be are pretend priests
00:55.51NeronixI mean, if you want healers, recruit proper healers, roll proper healers and encourage people to
00:56.12KyahxEh, paladins are really nice.  They are washing machines.
00:56.25KyahxQuite a few paladins outheal my priest *shrug*
00:56.29Kyahxbut im also pew-pew
00:56.47NeronixSo they seem to be good healers
00:56.56Kyahxindeed
00:56.58Neronixbut they shouldn't be able to outheal priests like that
00:57.04Neronixthey're a hybrid class
00:57.09Kyahxwell, so I am :P
00:57.11Neronixthey should be doing multiple things
00:57.14Kyahxthey don't outheal the healing priests
00:57.26NeronixI made the horrible mistake of taking a pally to 60
00:57.30Kyahxthey are washing machines and maintanince healers
00:57.32Kyahxheh
00:57.44NeronixI healed, I offtanked, I kept everything judged
00:58.00NeronixI was wearing plate, and I was in the thick of battle doing what pallys do
00:58.27NeronixI was not pretending that I was a priest, standing back and spamming my FoL button
00:58.55Kyahxand what do you play now?
00:59.04Kyahx(I throught you were a warlock for some reason)
00:59.08Kyahxthought*
00:59.21NeronixI'm a lock
00:59.25Kyahxheh
00:59.27Neronixthe pally was on the US servers
00:59.53Neronixleft them 10 months ago to be able to play in a proper time zone and have a fresh start in the Horde
00:59.55Kyahxah
01:00.12Kyahxand now you can be a paladin AND a dirty horde!
01:00.15Kyahxgo go x-pac?
01:00.16NeronixAnd my new main's only lv 46. I can't stop coding :<
01:00.21Kyahxlol
01:00.28KyahxI have 3-60s =/
01:00.34KyahxI should code more and stop being lua noob
01:01.08tumetomgood night...
01:01.15tumetomtime to sleep
01:04.24Nightdewneed some help.. if i have a string name of a func
01:04.32Nightdewand i know the func is part of a table
01:04.36Nightdewcant i just call
01:04.48Nightdewfunc = self.funcName
01:04.50Nightdewfunc()
01:05.02Neronixwhy not self.funcName() ?
01:05.21Nightdewcause of another check i am doing
01:05.22Neronixwait, nvm
01:05.40NeronixfuncName is a string, right?
01:05.44Nightdewyes
01:05.53Neronixself[self.funcName]()
01:06.13Nightdeweh?
01:06.15Nightdewexplain that
01:08.19Tekmy fubar plugins are like hyperactive little children
01:08.25Tekthey can't fucking sit still
01:10.53NeronixNightdew: if self.funcName is "foo", doing self[self.funcName]() == self.foo()
01:11.19Neronixsquare brackets are for dynamic indexing stuff. Any string can go there
01:11.34Tekanything can go there, not just strings
01:11.52NeronixI thought a key could only be a string...
01:11.59Tekit's just a table...
01:12.22Teklocal x, y = {}, {}; x[y] = function() ... end
01:12.23NeronixI know, but I thought a hash table key could only be a string
01:12.33Tekno, it can be anything
01:12.48NeronixAh, cool
01:12.59Tekcomes in handy at times
01:13.07ag`anything??
01:13.32ag`I thought ["something"] just meant .something
01:13.42ag`can't see how that owuld work with anything but strings'
01:14.46KemayoAh, but [something] means the value of the variable something.
01:14.55KemayoI hate to say it, but: http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT
01:14.56Kemayo:-D
01:15.35hastehaha, felstriker dropped :p
01:15.37NeronixTek: Did you ever encounter any problems with menu subgroups for mods not appearing sometimes while making MMTuFu?
01:16.02NeronixI'm trying to make DC take full advantage of FeedAceOptionsTable, but dewdrop doesn't seem to like me
01:16.07MikmaTek: hey mate i got my hands on the DKP addon i talked about :D
01:16.54MikmaTek: http://wow.reaktio.net/gbraider.zip
01:20.28NeronixKyahx: Miles is trying to look smart
01:20.33Kyahxeh
01:20.35Kyahxlol
01:21.05NeronixHe's trying to say you don't know shit
01:21.10Mikmaoh wow
01:21.15Neronixand that you can actually notice 0.2s lag
01:21.16Mikmathere's a fight going on there
01:21.30MikmaKyahx: "Your attitude isn't admirable either imo. Instead of working together to find a solution that works for people with crappy computers and demanding healers, you start accusing others of having no grasp of the subject? Sad.." :D
01:21.34Mikmayou are a SAAAAD sad man
01:21.38Kyahxyea im a dick
01:21.45Mikmacan i lick you, just the tip
01:21.53Kyahxakward
01:22.14MikmaHa Ha Ha! You're Hired!
01:22.33NeronixAnd he's indirectly saying clad's research is faulty
01:23.27Kyahx:)
01:23.52NeronixAnd we already have a solution that caters to healers and people with horrible computers...
01:23.53NeronixBUCKETING
01:23.58Neronix¬.¬
01:24.11RophyMikma, what did you change on the svn:externals of Simple Combat Log?
01:24.20MikmaRophy: yeah, is it fooked up more now?
01:24.30NeronixSecondly, faster event handlers definitely helps fps, make no mistake
01:24.31MikmaRophy: since it was fooked on macs :D
01:24.45Mikmaoh WHAT
01:24.47Mikmasorry hehe
01:24.59Mikmai changed Libs\SomeLib -> Libs/SomeLib
01:25.08Mikmathat will make them work correctly on macs and windows
01:25.13Neronixbut updating on every, frickin, event? /puke
01:25.15RophyI mean... what was changed? I think I don't really know how to use this tortoiseSVN, I dunno the one I see is the new one or not.
01:25.22Rophyoh oh
01:25.33Neronixfast event handlers or not, that's a waste
01:25.35Rophyokay then
01:25.40MikmaRophy: doesn't affect windows environment at all :) only makes the libs work with macs too
01:26.17Rophyokay, didn't notice I was using '\', so I can't find out what were the differences :p
01:26.19MikmaRophy: with the 'Libs\SomeLibs' the svn did a folder named like that on macs :)
01:26.47Mikmai had like 10 Libs\Something1 Libs\Something2 listed in the addon folder
01:26.56Rophylol
01:27.10Mikmabut when the \ are changed to / it will make Libs -> and creates the folders there
01:27.18Rophynod
01:30.49MikmaKyahx: "Secondly, you obviously don't have any idea how a garbage collected heap works."
01:31.01MikmaKyahx: you lame bastard! ;)
01:31.05KyahxI know what gives me 5 fps :P
01:31.09Kyahxdoes that count?
01:31.23Kyahxhehe
01:31.52NeronixThe guy's trying to make himself look superior
01:32.09Mikmahe's AL, trustme
01:32.18Neronixlook at how he quotes the entire post unmodified and types a whole load of filler to make his post look longer
01:32.35Neronixand people are falling for it: he has +3 karma with only 2 posts
01:33.07Kyahx2 posts of trash IMO
01:33.09Kyahxbut meh
01:34.40NeronixYay, clad's joined in on our side
01:35.14MikmaIf something happens with my raid - I want to know that asap, and not 0.2 seconds later.
01:35.21Mikma0.2 seconds doesn't matter
01:35.39Mikmaif the person is going to die he will and you can't be 0.2 seconds faster while trying to save him
01:35.40NeronixHe tries to counter that by saying 10fps is a noticeable difference to 30fps
01:35.53NeronixAnd human reaction time is ~0.5s
01:35.57Mikmawell i heal with 2-3fps in BWL and still manage to do a good job with aguf
01:36.07Mikmafuck them all, they just don't have the skills xD
01:36.26Neronixif the update rate is 0.2s, then the lag range would be 0.1-0.2s
01:36.32Neronix¬.¬
01:36.36NeronixI love that emote
01:37.01Mikmakinky ascii
01:37.51Kyahxmmm, good.  Clad added an explenation
01:38.00Mikmasomeone should say to that dude "stop being emo, AL"
01:41.07Mikmaclad ain't here, he's angry
01:42.52Mikmaclad added Edit #2 there
01:44.25Zeryli can't figure out how to unlock oRA's mt frames, can someone help me?
01:45.24vhaarrAlt+Click to drag.
01:45.28Zerylthanks
01:45.31hastevery hard :p
01:46.08vhaarrgah, where is ckk
01:46.18Mikma"Actually, I will. agUF is worthless to a healer."
01:46.29Mikmathat dude should move to russia
01:46.56KebinusanAnyone have a transcript for Thaddius?
01:47.08vhaarrKebinusan: You get no events.
01:47.13hasteMikma: tell him to visit Vlad!
01:47.18vhaarrKebinusan: You have to use UNIT_AURA and scan the debuff textures.
01:47.18haste/live with him
01:47.32Kyahxvhaarr: new events need to be added for naxx scripting?
01:48.16vhaarrKyahx: I'm not sure, I actually don't think there is anything in the combat log about it.
01:48.24Kyahxkk
01:48.43vhaarrKyahx: btw, I hacked a bit on Transcriptor, hope that was alright - you were afk at the time.
01:49.04KyahxIts fine
01:49.05Mikmahaste: "move to russia, and go live with Vlad."
01:49.09Mikmathat's a good slogan
01:49.14KyahxI dont do high end stuff, so add whatever you need for BigWigs
01:49.20Kyahxsince thats what it was made for :)
01:49.23vhaarr:)
01:50.13Mikmaso, when i said that marked person loses the skull...
01:50.22vhaarrIt should've been fixed already.
01:50.24vhaarrIt's not?
01:50.25Mikmawho said that it's been fixed and when it has been fixed? :)
01:50.31vhaarrIt was fixed today.
01:50.59Mikmathe hC's commit?
01:51.16vhaarrYes.
01:51.23Mikmaokiedokie then
01:51.29Mikmawill have to test it tomorrow again :)
01:51.33vhaarrheh
01:52.31Mikmabeing ML is a bitch actually
01:52.46Mikmai need to install LootFX and some masterlooter addon for coins and bijous
01:53.11vhaarrJust /random 40?
01:53.18vhaarrOr everyone roll Need.
01:53.34vhaarr<PROTECTED>
01:53.43Mikmawe're taking them to bank
01:53.54Mikmaand people with revered can ask the bijous and stuff from bank to enchants
01:54.06vhaarrThen I don't see why you need any addons.
01:54.47Mikmabecause i need to find group X -> myname everytime there is a coin/bijou :)
01:54.55Mikmaand item since i disenchant them all
01:55.04Mikmaand first i need to find a corpse with lewt on it
01:56.51Mikmaon niiiice
01:57.03Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3889-1-classmasterloot-v109.html
01:59.46CIA-1103kemayo * r8500 10FuBar_KungFu/ (FuBar_KungFu.toc KungFu.lua KungFuLocals.lua lib/): FuBar_KungFu: Update for FuBar 2.0. Add skill watching.
02:07.22*** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-149-82.ip.adam.com.au)
02:17.29Mikmalol you teknicolor whores xD
02:24.05*** join/#wowace eternally777 (n=eternall@pool-72-95-2-191.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net)
02:24.51Mikmahiya eternally777
02:25.49eternally777Hey Mikma
02:26.05Mikmaand yes, eternally777 .. :)
02:26.06eternally777At least I know my name isn't messed up this session ;-)
02:26.40Mikmayou should try ~roulette everytime you enter xD
02:27.33eternally777lol
02:27.36eternally777~roulette
02:27.38purlACTION watches eternally777 pull the trigger:  BANG!
02:27.43eternally777-.-
02:27.44Mikmaowned.
02:28.23CIA-1103rophy * r8501 10SimpleCombatLog/ (5 files):
02:28.23CIA-11SimpleCombatLog
02:28.23CIA-11- Added back type filter tooltips.
02:28.23CIA-11- Back to old localization method, unless I figure out how to use table-based localization with AceLocale.
02:28.23CIA-11- "Clear Settings" and "Load Common Settings" will not clear customized colors and formats.
02:28.23CIA-11- Some minor tweaks so that I can cheat myself into believing this is a very efficint addon.
02:29.41MikmaRophy: oh btw thanks for the "default settings"
02:29.55CIA-1103eternally777 * r8502 10HealHub/HH-Events.lua: HealHub: Fixed repeating error on line 247 of HH-Events.lua
02:30.01Rophywhat "default settings"?
02:30.13Mikmaor common, can't remember
02:30.16Rophyoh
02:30.27RophyI need that option myself :p
02:30.31Mikmadon't have to go through 200 menus to set it ;)
02:30.37Rophylol yes
02:31.19RophySCL needs a table with checkboxes to actually set up that "name filters per type fitlers" properly
02:31.33Rophybut I'm so lazy to create an option GUI.
02:31.51Mikmai actually dumped Yule yesterday and downloaded scl.. again ;)
02:32.15KemayoAha!  Alt+rightclick!
02:32.30Rophyoh, I didn't know there is another replacement :p
02:32.50Mikmawell Yule is nice but it ain't ace2 addon hehe
02:33.16KemayoI saw SCL mentioned here, and SVN'd it to try it out.  Then, seeing no changes, and lacking info from the commandline, I had to go to WoWInterface to find out how to actually use it.  :-P
02:33.16Rophyactually I can't find much use of Ace2 for SCL for now :/
02:33.17CIA-1103eternally777 * r8503 10HealHub/HH-GUI.lua: HealHub: Forgot to add svn:keywords to HH-GUI.lua
02:33.29Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4420-1-yule.html
02:33.48RophyI used to print a welcome message "Alt-RightClick a ChatFrameTab to show the drop down menu."
02:34.05Rophybut then some people told me they hate welcome messages so much :p
02:34.18Mikmajust a small hint
02:34.36Rophyhmm I'll take a look at Yule.
02:34.46Mikmaif not self.db.profile.Extra[DBVersion] then
02:34.46Mikmaself:ResetALL()
02:34.48Mikmaend
02:35.18Rophyand what  does that mean?
02:35.22eternally777What happens when the revisions become in excess of 10000?  Do we start getting really long revision numbers?
02:35.32Mikmaself.db.profile.Extra[DBVersion] = true
02:35.37Mikmaok here's the idea
02:35.52Mikmaon first login, check that does some sort of "database" exist
02:36.00Mikmaif not, print the HOWTO in chat
02:36.08Mikmathem set the database = true
02:36.17Mikmaafter that the message won't be shown anymore :)
02:36.22Rophyyou mean print welcome only on first load?
02:36.26KemayoOr just have a "/scl help" option.
02:36.28Mikmayeap
02:36.36RophyI guess only 5% of the people actually reads that welcome message anyway :p
02:36.56Mikmaor, just make a small slash
02:37.01RophyI'l add more /scl commands
02:37.05Mikma<PROTECTED>
02:37.35Rophyya I'll do that soon
02:37.39Mikmai personally think both of those are good
02:37.46Rophyhmm...
02:37.52Mikmaprint help on first login and a helpslash
02:38.26Mikmai still think that the way to configure scl is genious
02:39.05RophyI just want to have a feel of something like the default Blizzard chat drop down menu.
02:39.35Mikmaoh? didn't get that. got a "wow" feeling when i tried it
02:39.50Rophyhmm, that Yule only works in english WoW :p
02:39.55Mikmaminimizes the need of slashcommands and still easy to access
02:41.29Rophywell I didn't want to create a HitsMode replacement at all.
02:42.15Rophywhen I just finished ParserLib, I need to find out the missing patterns, so I made a "Simple" combat log mod, and spams everyone when there is a missing pattern, so that they'll report to me :p
02:42.59RophyAnd the current SCL isn't simple at all  ~_~
02:43.38RophyActually the current SCL still reports missing patterns, you'll see a raw default combat log in red color.
02:43.55Mikmaerll
02:43.57Mikmawell*
02:44.05Mikmarename SimpleCombatLog to SensibleCombatLog
02:45.25Rophywhatever, if you don't need so much customization then it is simple :p
02:49.00KemayoRophy: SCL seems to be reporting deaths twice.
02:49.20RophyDeath: [You]  and Death: [You](Someone) ?
02:49.50RophyBecause since 1.11 a death message is shown twice, one  "X is dead!",  and one "You have slain X!"
02:50.13KemayoJust "Death: [Someone]" twice.
02:51.11Rophyoh, I forgot to add the 'death with attacker' formats back.
02:51.18Rophyone of them is actually "You have slain X!"
02:51.55Rophytry turning off suppress combat log and you'll see what I mean
02:52.02Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/libs/
02:52.05Mikma:D
02:56.19CodayusQuestion about AceOptons...
02:56.36CodayusI want a slash command that has two arguments after it, one optional..
02:57.00CodayusIs there a way to pass both arguments seperatly to the function by splitting it apart somehow in the AceOptions entry?
02:57.38CodayusOr...to put it another way I guess, do functions called from slash commands always get one string argument?
02:59.56CodayusHmm.
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03:00.04CodayusNevermind, I'm just slow.  :-)
03:00.11eternally778~roulette
03:00.14purlACTION watches eternally778 pull the trigger:  Click!
03:00.20eternally778...
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03:11.53Mikma<rewind> look! I know how to do YMCA!!
03:11.54Mikma<rewind> \o/ |o| /o_ /o\
03:12.08eternally777Do any classes start off with a healing spell of sorts?
03:12.12eternally777like, at level 1?
03:13.51Mikmaehm, dunno
03:14.01Kemayo...my rogue is showing in the dressing room wearing only her underwear, cape, and helmet.  Weird.
03:14.22Kemayoeternally777: Priests, maybe.
03:19.50Codayuseternally777: 2-3 do, I think
03:20.54eternally777hm
03:20.55eternally777ok
03:21.59eternally777I need healers (with healing spells) to test my mod's timer bars so if none of my guildies are willing to do it I might need to roll a priest on my friends acct
03:25.07PProvostHey does anyone know if you can determine from code whether you are standing or sitting?
03:30.54Tek*Points at Special Events Movement*
03:31.39MikmaTek: didcha look at the addon i pasted? :) i got the dkp/roller-addon i talked about some time ago
03:31.54Tekno, I just sat down
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03:32.16MikmaTek: http://wow.reaktio.net/gbraider.zip
03:32.39Mikmai'm not sure how to USE it but the gui the rollers get is pretty neat
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03:32.54Mikmaand i hope you manage to code a dkp addon soon since we need one xD
03:32.58ToastTheifdoes anyone remember that site where you can look at archives of blue posts?
03:33.28Mikmayea
03:33.37Mikmahttp://blue.cardplace.com/blue_results1.htm
03:33.53ToastTheifthanls :)
03:33.59ToastTheifthanks*
03:39.11PProvostTek: Were you directing me to SEMovement for the sit/stand question? I'm looking at it in the trunk and I don't see anything about sit/stand, just PlayerMoving and PlayerInInstance.
03:39.20PProvostDo you have a newer version in branches that you are working on?
03:39.26PProvostOr am I looking in the wrong place?
03:40.04Tekfor some reason I read "tell if a player is moving"
03:40.15Tekyea, I need to go get drunk now so I have an excuse
03:40.33Tekhttp://gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20060817
03:40.35Tek^^
03:40.37PProvosthaha... I'm aiming for a Guiness myself
03:41.30Mikmayummy
03:41.34Mikmaguinness
03:41.42KyahxDon Vito got arrested!
03:41.47Kyahxholy crap
03:41.49Kyahxlol
03:41.51PProvostSo, no thoughts on my sit/stand question eh?
03:41.56MikmaKyahx: rofl
03:41.58Kyahxhttp://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_People_Margera.html
03:42.10KyahxTouchy touchy little boys apparently.
03:42.49Mikmahaha
03:42.52Mikmaowned.
03:43.09Mikmai hope they put him in the same cell with m.jackson
03:43.21KyahxI can only imagine what he said when he was getting arrested....
03:43.23Kyahx"WHATHE JUST WAN MY AUTHOGRAPHGKJ IMA NOT WHATGAFGAF GAH"
03:45.03Mikmahttp://www.bash.org/?348450
03:47.15PProvostThat is hilarious
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03:52.18ToastTheifwhy would you even say that
03:52.22ToastTheifI would just leave the room lol
03:53.20hastehehe, made myself a add on that dispaly a white texture around my screen when felstriker proc ;D
03:53.27hasteshould make it red instead maybe
03:54.39CIA-1303rophy * r8504 10SimpleCombatLog/ (4 files):
03:54.40CIA-13SimpleCombatLog
03:54.40CIA-13- On first load, show help messages and load common settings for ChatFrame2.
03:54.40CIA-13- /scl help : show help message
03:54.40CIA-13- /scl reset : resets data and load common settings for ChatFrame2.
03:54.40CIA-13- Added 'deathSource' format.
03:55.24Mikmaoh neat
04:02.51RophyAceDB 'Default' profile is global to all characters?
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04:31.46PProvostHey Kaelten, what would you think about overriding CloseBankFrame() for OneBank when in replace mode? That way people can close your frame the same way they close the built in one.
04:32.19Kaeltenhrm?  whatcha mean?  its been so long since I used the default bank frame I don't remember how to use it
04:32.37PProvostThere is an API for closing it that doesn't work for OneBank.
04:32.43PProvostCloseBankFrame()
04:34.12kergothRophy: it isnt that simple.  if i create a profile 'foo', then all characters who use profile 'foo' will use the same settings
04:34.30kergothit just happens that the class specific, character specific, etc are profiles that get their names mangled to include information about hte current character.
04:34.49kergothif that makes sense
04:35.23PProvostKaelten: Hmmm... strangeness here. When I use /script CloseBankFrame() it works, but when I call it from my addon it doesn't. Let me look into this further.
04:35.44CIA-1303kaelten * r8505 10OneBank/OneBank.lua:
04:35.44CIA-13OneBank -
04:35.45CIA-13- Now hooks CloseBankFrame()
04:35.50PProvosthehe
04:35.52PProvostYou are fast.
04:36.03Kaeltenits the wonder of ace :)
04:36.13Kaeltenbar typo it should work
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04:37.12TainYou know there are some days that I almost regret Ace and everything it has meant.  Namely when I look at some random addon's code or save vars and want to cry instead of being blissfully ignorant.
04:37.24PProvosthaha
04:37.56Kaeltenlol
04:38.36Kaeltenthere was once a time where we could all look at others code in wonder and amazement.
04:38.59Kaeltensicne then I've come to see much of it with a general lamentation.
04:39.36TainMy guild leader wants everone to run this profiler to upload character data to the guild's online profile system.   Sure, great idea.
04:39.39Tainhttp://www.rpgoutfitter.com/Addons/CharacterProfiler.cfm
04:39.52TainExcept I made the mistake of looking at the save vars.
04:40.05Kaeltenthat bad?
04:40.27TainEverything is saved in full plain text.  Every item you have, every ability, every talent, every tradeskill.
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04:40.59Kaeltenerr.... um..... bad programmer bad!
04:41.01TainIt's good information to have on the website, I just wanted to weep looking at the savevar.
04:41.38Kaeltenthe storage stuff I wrote for OneBag is a lot cleaner as far as item gathering goes.
04:41.49TainEspecially since someone coded both the addon and the web backend.  They could have done anything they wanted!  But went that way.
04:41.58Zeryl<3 Kaelten - i'm in love with OneXXXX
04:42.12Kaeltenzeryl Thank you :)
04:43.05CIA-1303pprovost 07PProvost * r8506 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua ItemBuffEffects.lua):
04:43.05CIA-13FuBar_PoisonFu: Update to branch
04:43.06CIA-13- Fixed bug where weapon left picked up when bank open
04:43.06CIA-13- Fixed bug where weapon left picked up when sitting
04:43.06CIA-13- Renaming, refactoring and cleanup
04:43.06CIA-13- Started working on support for Wizard Oils
04:43.28TainAck it saves certain full tooltip texts to sv
04:43.50Kaeltenwtf is the purpose of that!
04:43.59ZerylLol, i noticed something interesting Kaeltan - when you get items, several, and open the "bag display" in OneBag, it shows them animating into the bag (not a bug, just an interesting side effect)
04:44.07Tainmmmm actually I wonder
04:44.45TainIt's possible it's importing the tooltip text that's in the savevars as the actual tooltip popup you get on mouseover on the website.
04:44.49TainWhich would be awesome.
04:44.55hasteTain: it is
04:44.56TainSince it means I can make it say whatever I want.
04:45.05hasteit saves everything, and shows the data it saves in the savedvars
04:45.34TainPeople want to mouse over my gear I can give them special messages jus from me.
04:45.46TainI now believe I can have some fun with this.
04:47.41CIA-1303kaelten * r8507 10OneBank/OneBank.lua:
04:47.41CIA-13OneBank -
04:47.41CIA-13-Fixed small bug with the hooking of CloseBankFrame
04:47.54KaeltenZeryl: I've seen that before too :)  its neat
04:48.23KaeltenTain: lol
04:49.18ZerylLol tain: I wouldn't look too far into his code, we use it for WoWRoster, and have a few problems from it consistently :(
04:49.26ZerylI just noticed what you were talking about
04:49.55Zeryland on the roster side, we're looking at parsing itemcache.wdb instead to help cut down on duplicates
04:50.17Zerylsince as you can see, the sql database stores a tooltip for each item
04:50.20TainThey don't listen to me, unfortunatly.  The "leadership" of the guild still gets, "oooh shiny" when they see an addon.
04:50.58TainI try my best to show the light, explain about performance, resource utilization, and the direct impact on gameplay poorly coded addons can have.
04:51.38TainThe best I've been able to do is get some people to switch to FuBar from Titan, and that's mainly by telling them you can drag and drop things to move them around more than any other feature.
04:51.46Zerylhehe
04:51.52Zeryli've used the same kind of excuses :(
04:52.08ZerylCP isn't too bad unless your scanning, he at least designed a "light" mode of scanning
04:52.11TainI had the guildleader try out BossPanel and he loved it for a day, then declared Natur's Enemy Cast bar to be far superior.
04:53.42Zerylalthough overall usage is bad due to as you said, all the savedvars
04:53.47KaeltenZeryl: cladhaire wrote something in lua that can parse the itemcache.wdb
04:54.21Zeryli've got a wdbtocsv parser, and php written to take the csv and import to sql.  my biggest thing right now is creating all the relational tables :(
04:55.23Zerylbut i would like to see that bit of code
04:56.02hasteTain: Glad my guild isn't like that ;)
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05:01.02TekBossPanel?
05:01.06TainI mostly hate my guild.  There's about 5-6 people I really enjoy playing with and that's the only reason I'm there.
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05:03.13Kaeltenwhy does GetContainerNumSlots(-2) return 0?
05:04.49Zerylis there like a huge mod that someone runs on the test realms to find these things? lol
05:06.10Kaeltenoh god!  why the hell did they create a funciton named GetKeyringSize when it should be treated as any other damned container.
05:08.09Kaeltensorry I rant about that stuff
05:08.37Zeryldoesn't make sense on a bunch of their api calls
05:09.25Kaeltenwell I wonder why they don't have a unified system for all bags/banks instead they have a system setup for all bags except the bank bag, and apaprently the keyring frame doesn't quite fit in either
05:12.16Zerylsomeone whined that they wanted seperate calls i guess
05:13.49KyahxI think tain ment BigWigs
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05:46.15CIA-1303kaelten * r8508 10OneRing/ (7 files):
05:46.16CIA-13OneRing -
05:46.16CIA-13-Initial import.
05:47.48CIA-1303kaelten * r8509 10OneRing/ (7 files):
05:47.48CIA-13OneRing -
05:47.48CIA-13Keywords
05:48.02KaeltenTain: wasn't it you who asked for a OneRing addon?
05:48.08Kaeltenor maybe it was tekkub
05:48.57Kyahxheh
05:49.00KyahxOneRing
05:49.24Kaeltenhehe, its just a OneBag style keyring bag
05:49.41KaeltenI'm going to add in full options to it soon, right now its static as far as that goes
05:52.04CIA-1303kyahx * r8510 10ImprovedRWF/Core.lua: ImprovedRWF: Added Teknicolor support. If the 'Add Name' option is enabled it will color the names useing Teknicolor's nametable. Still works same as always if Teknicolor is not found. =)
05:52.14KyahxAh, much better :)
05:52.47CIA-1303rophy * r8511 10SimpleCombatLog/ (SimpleCombatLog.lua localization.lua):
05:52.47CIA-13SimpleCombatLog
05:52.47CIA-13- Defaults to 'char' profile on first load.
05:52.47CIA-13- /scl show n : show drop down menu for a chat frame.
05:53.27Kyahxoh fuck my lamp just burned out
05:53.40Kyahxbleh =(
06:05.25Kaeltennight guys
06:05.31TemKaeltenAway, did I miss something?
06:05.40Temthe keyring is already only 1 container...
06:12.47kergothheh, maybe someone just wants it to look all one* like, pert y
06:12.49kergothsilliness
06:20.17IcerothRophy, SCL death messages could really use faction coloring
06:20.44Rophyfaction coloring?
06:21.00Iceroth"Leetrogue dies" - was it a player from my or enemy team
06:21.11Icerothfriendly deatsh blue, hostile deaths red
06:21.14Icerothor something like that
06:21.26RophyI can't distinguish between friendly / hostile easily by a name string.
06:21.50Icerothhmm.. default combat log shows the color
06:23.24Icerothalso, "Victim" is a bit misleading when it comes to healing (unless you are a priest at nefarion p2 ;-)
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06:25.14Rophyirc client crashed, did I miss something?
06:25.33FISKER_Qnope
06:25.41FISKER_Qunless
06:25.44FISKER_Q(08:21:52) <Iceroth> hmm.. default combat log shows the color
06:25.44FISKER_Q(08:23:26) <Iceroth> also, "Victim" is a bit misleading when it comes to healing (unless you are a priest at nefarion p2 ;-)
06:26.12Rophyya I missed that :p
06:26.57RophyIceroth, the default combat log only shows red when they're hitting you, not when a hostile player hitting a frendly player.
06:27.17Icerothno i meant the death message only
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06:27.43RophyDeath message shows red?
06:27.46Icerothyeah
06:27.48Icerothor blue
06:27.49RophyI thought they're all white.
06:28.15Icerothactually, hostile deaths, friendly deaths
06:28.20Icerothdefault color is white
06:28.50Rophyhmm.. yeah, there is friendly death and hostile death event.
06:33.24Icerothah hmm.. now that we are at it, lines that are generated from pala blessings, ie. Greater Blessing of Wisdom, are really long - would it be possible to replace those with GBoW etc?
06:37.35RophyI try not to bother with specific spell name customization :p
06:38.04Rophysome Blizzard events are inaccurate, so I didn't try to get information from event names.
06:38.16Rophybut I guess friendly death and hostile death is helpful
06:39.33Icerothyep, that would be sweet
06:51.03RophyIceroth, I am in AV and I just got this fired from "Hostile's Death" :  StormpikeBowman dies
06:51.12RophyAnd I am alliance.
06:51.32Rophylooks like even the simple death events can be inaccurate too :\
06:55.59Icerothheh
06:56.25Icerothi've noticed that too but on player deaths it's accurate
06:57.02Icerothand that's what counts
06:58.16RophyPeople will want to extend that to all events
06:58.41RophyBut I dont want to waste the effort to sort out which events are accurate on what situations :\
06:59.13Icerothi'd be happy with the little bit inaccurate blizz events
06:59.55RophyI'll need to think what can be done without over complicating things.
07:01.29RophyMay be...  two layer coloring,  first color messages with the default Blizzard event color, then color the keywords with SCL settings.
07:01.46Rophyso if you set "Hostile's Death" to red, then the whole message will be colored red.
07:01.58Rophybut then the keywords will be colored with SCL settings.
07:02.18RophySo you see a <red>Death:  <white>Someone</white> </red>
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07:30.34RophySo you see a <red>Death:  <white>Someone</white> </red>
07:30.37Rophyoops
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07:43.59Kemayo...wasn't someone here working on cleaning up Gatherer?
07:46.16CIA-1303kemayo * r8512 10FuBar_KungFu/KungFu.lua: FuBar_KungFu: Updated version number to 2.0.
07:48.06CIA-1303kemayo * r8513 10FuBar_ToFu/ (FuBar_ToFu.toc ToFuLocals.lua): FuBar_ToFu: Added missing category. Cleaned up locals.
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08:13.27Thiananm
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09:16.10Elkanorequesting eyes for users :/
09:16.26tiggnot implementet yet...
09:18.34Kebinusan*Yawn*
09:19.44NeronixKebinusan: Just found your nifty life tap macro
09:20.05Neronixcan I turn that into a mod please?
09:20.15Kebinusannot mine! I just posted it cause wow's forum search would never work when I needed it
09:20.57Kebinusantheres a link to the thread and author name at the bottom
09:21.19NeronixAh
09:21.48KebinusanIm never able to find anything using the wow forum search and I didnt want to lose it since it looked very good
09:22.59KebinusanBut yeah, it would be nice to have it as a mod that scanned buffs/gear and adjusted automagically
09:23.28NeronixBoo, someone beat me to it
09:23.34Gngsklink?
09:23.55Neronixhttp://members.shaw.ca/martyrcontests/AddOns/ScaledLifetap.zip
09:24.01Neronixincludes bonusscanner too
09:24.07KebinusanThis was orignally posted on the wow warlock forums another author @
09:24.09Kebinusanbleh
09:24.20Kebinusanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-warlock&T=1215258&P=1
09:24.24Kebinusanmy pasting skills lack at this hour
09:24.48Elkanomkay... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/SlirithIceblood/d07742c2.jpg
09:25.31KebinusanElkano, private server?
09:26.13Elkanonope, bug on ptr
09:27.14Elkanohttp://forums-de.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-de&t=798741&p=1&tmp=1#post798741
09:27.30NeronixSome people killed Kel'thuzad with that bug
09:27.43NeronixGot hotfixed immediately
09:27.59Elkanobut if it's correct what they say wrt Kel'thuzad...
09:31.06Kebinusanheh funny bug
09:31.22Kebinusanthey post any strat info on kel
09:32.21Kebinusanah some english I can read, nm
09:34.37CIA-1303fritti * r8514 10AckBar/ (. AckBar.lua):
09:34.37CIA-13AckBar:
09:34.37CIA-13- Guard against a 'nil' error on reset. Turn of events: AceConsole refreshes Dewdrop, which caused Dewdrop in turn to call 'GetCols' without having an opened parent, which caused an error.
09:35.18FISKER_QNeronix as far as i know the bug is there live as well
09:35.26FISKER_Qhowever it's hotfixed there
09:35.30FISKER_Qbut they forget it each PTR
09:42.57Gngskheh, the people who killed kel'thuzad on PTR used to be on my realm
09:43.10Gngskthey xfered off though, we're much happier without them :)
10:01.28Neronixhttp://www.guitarherobrokemyknee.com/ O.o
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10:05.42Neronixhahahaha "Dude you are a f*cking moron. I hope rockstar sues you for slander saying their game broke your knee"
10:06.04NeronixGod continues to improve on The Better Moron
10:07.04Neronix(For those who didn't get it, Red Octane made Guitar Hero)
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10:10.23CIA-1303thrae 07Parser-2.0 * r8516 10ParserLib/ (. Parser-2.0.lua): Parser-2.0 - Working on full AceEvent conversion (Thrae). Useless upload since I'm working at a different comp.
10:11.23FISKER_Qlol Neronix :D
10:11.41tumetommorning
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10:20.43HealthAnyone here involved with wowhead.com?
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10:26.08tumetomno .. am involved with lagcity.de :-P
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10:44.10evlmorning gentlemen
10:44.30Neronix~mornings
10:44.31purlMornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/)
10:45.11evlI agree, horrible creatures.
10:48.51CIA-1303neronix * r8518 10FuBar_MiniPerfsFu/MiniPerfsFu.lua:
10:48.51CIA-13MiniPerfsFu
10:48.51CIA-13- Fixed error on disable
10:48.51CIA-13- I believe I've finally fixed the no-updating-on-first-login bug. Need to do more testing
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10:54.36KebinusanAnyone link to an easy routine fade something out
10:54.43Kebinusanor know a mod I can look at
10:54.59KebinusanI have a texture Im displaying and rather than it just poping out, I'd like it to fade out over a few a few seconds
10:57.10NeronixI know X-Perl does it
10:57.43NeronixThat stuff probably involves an OnUpdate though
10:58.25Kebinusanhmm candy bars does, I'll try to look there
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11:12.32CIA-1303fritti * r8519 10AckBar/ (. AckBar.lua):
11:12.33CIA-13AckBar:
11:12.33CIA-13- work around a strange 'option handler not found' message in the chatcommand handlers, introduced by the previous commit.
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11:14.20Mikmaoh lovely, teknicolor support for IRWF
11:15.23Icerotham i the only one who thinks [<color>Iceroth</color>] looks better than the default <color>[Iceroth]</color> ?
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11:19.23Kebinusanno ice
11:19.36KebinusanI agree
11:20.50Mikmai don't mind, both are fine
11:23.25Neronix~whalesquash the frame level system
11:23.30purlACTION runs out the way as a whale of biblical size named Gordo lands on the frame level system
11:24.23NeronixDamn frame level unpredictability is one of the last things in the way of my world domination/unit frame plans
11:24.55Icerothguess i'm lucky.. i had only once problems with frame levels with my hud
11:25.15Icerothand that was because my font was parented to wrong frame
11:26.13Neronixeverything I have is parented correctly
11:26.23NeronixI have a PlayerModel parented to its background frame
11:26.38Neronixyet I need to set its level to bg:GetFrameLevel() +2
11:27.56NeronixAll wowwiki will tell me is to use XML
11:28.48NeronixThis is definitely correct, isn't it? self.bg.model = CreateFrame("PlayerModel", nil, self.bg)
11:29.28Icerothlooks good to me
11:30.33Icerothstupid ConTEXT.. "smart" tabs my ass
11:32.04Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1715.msg36888.html#msg36888
11:32.13Mikmai think i've had enough of that 0.2 bullshit
11:32.30Neronixthat flamewar's still going?
11:33.24Neronixjesus fucking christ
11:33.40Neronixthese are the same people who say "ZOMG PERFACT RAID ROXXORZ" (And it does)
11:33.42Icerothwell he has a point... on some of the bosses where you are healing a single target no matter what, you really want to see the changes asap
11:33.56Neronixyet they don't know that PR was what introduced the whole concept of bucketing
11:34.08Icerothon raid scale, it doesn't matter at all
11:35.19Kebinusanwho does reactive healing anyway
11:35.30NeronixGood point
11:35.51Icerothwell take the emps fight for example, you gotta move some when they teleport
11:35.52KebinusanI skimmed the flame war
11:36.00MikmaIceroth: 0.2 seconds don't matter
11:36.03Icerothso you want to see if your tank is taking damage or not to risk the blizzard
11:36.16Mikma0.5+ starts to matter
11:36.25Mikmait's the time you realize "oh crap need to heal"
11:36.48Kebinusanwell and in most boss fights if you realize 'oh crap need to heal' its too late
11:37.07Mikmathat's the reason 0.2 doesn't matter
11:37.13Kebinusanyep
11:37.21Mikmaif others haven't started the healing in time it really doesn't matter
11:39.37evlAnyone tried moving MiniMapBattlefieldFrame around? Very strange little button that won't move properly
11:42.52Icerothwell anyway, does anyone have any good ideas about where to stick realm name and perhaps guild name as well in icehud target display?
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11:44.11NeronixI don't like using HUDs myself so I'm not too sure of what IceHud looks like, but just below the target's name would be a good bet
11:44.37Icerothi suppose but that would be 3rd line of text
11:44.56KebinusanWhy realm name?
11:45.04Kebinusando people really get that confused
11:45.04Icerothi find it interesting
11:45.15Icerothcross realm bgs
11:45.19Mikmasome people jusdt don't get it but...
11:45.20Mikmafuck them
11:45.27Mikma"0.2 is enough t o throw a renew"
11:45.31Mikmasuuuuure
11:46.04Kebinusanah yeah cross realm bg's
11:46.22Kebinusanhmm, Player[guild @ realm] maybe?
11:47.17Icerothperhaps but then i would have to move ToT info somewhere else as the name tag would be quite long
11:47.43Icerothhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1705.0.html <-- screenshots
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11:51.08KebinusanI really should switch from dhud to that
11:51.38KebinusanI played with it for a bit then went back to dhud
11:51.42Kebinusanand now I cant remember why
11:51.50Icerothdhud still looks better?
11:51.58Iceroththose textures are just damn nice in it
11:52.56KebinusanI think it was the option to hide the player frame and the context colors on the bars, I liked how the bars had a color gradient to them
11:53.07Iceroth= better textures :)
11:53.46Iceroththough adding the gradient shouldn't be too hard
11:54.02Icerothit's just that i'm going to have 100 different textures soon
11:54.37KebinusanAlso, in icehud isnt the mob health, always red instead of being the same color as a normal health bar
11:55.05Icerothhostile is always red yea
11:55.33Icerothi'm going to add option to change those at some point though
11:55.40Kebinusanyeah that was another thing
11:55.46KebinusanI have my setup as player left, mob right
11:55.57Icerothah i understand :)
11:56.06Kebinusanso Id want the bars just to have the right context for health/mana/rage/energy, etc
11:56.27Icerothplayer class color context for health bar is another thing i want to add
11:57.27Kebinusanmaybe have a context sensitive border on the bars, but the bars remain true to what they represent?
11:58.26Icerothmm... maybe.. the easies way to do that would be to make background contextual but i wonder how that would look as the bars are transparent
11:59.42Kebinusanyeah I remember I tried to set the bars hidden out of combat, but the background still showed
11:59.56Kebinusanso I couldnt get that completely hidden if out of combat and not regening look
12:00.02Iceroththat's fixed now
12:00.07Kebinusanah cool
12:00.26Icerothi'm afraid the rogue energy ticker isn't yet but should be soon too
12:03.22Kebinusannot a rogue, so that one doesnt bother me
12:09.08Mikmawhat's the command for blizzards raidsay?
12:10.04Kebinusan./rw
12:10.33Mikmathanks
12:10.46Icerothdhud shows buffs at the same line as name?
12:12.48Kebinusanyeah
12:12.48Kebinusanto the left and right of the name
12:12.52Kebinusanso like buffs left, debuffs right
12:13.07Kebinusanbut it doesnt have target of target :-/
12:13.42Icerothhmm.. the idea sounds nice but how does it look like when your tank has 16 buffs or boss has 16 debuffs?
12:14.27KebinusanI think it goes to two lines after 8 debuffs or something
12:14.38KebinusanI cant quite remember
12:14.47Icerothsame as archud then
12:16.59Kebinusanhttp://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2420/dhudtest1ow1.jpg
12:17.02Kebinusanthere is a ss
12:18.00Icerothis that sct?
12:18.04Kebinusanmsbt
12:18.31Iceroththought so too.. neat round animation
12:18.45Kebinusanyeah, it looks sexy with dhud
12:19.15Icerothwhat are the 2 icons in the middle? 1 looks like paranoia and another like some green wand
12:20.31Kebinusanoh, I have dab floaters setup under my target for my wand if in range, curse of doom if target can be doom'd, banish if target is demon, etc
12:20.31Kebinusanat least in that screenshot
12:20.37Icerothah
12:27.04Icerothany preferences which one is better, dhud/archud or icehud style with buffs/debuffs?
12:27.41Kebinusanto me it personally doesnt matter too much, I think they each fit their style
12:29.10Kebinusanone thing I like about dhud is the casting bar rather than being a seperate bar is displayed using the border of the mana bar
12:30.34Icerothheh, i watched some pvp vid with that and didn't like it at all :)
12:32.27Kebinusanyeah it just slims down the hud a bit
12:32.53Icerothah, i have druid mana bar in the other side so... :)
12:33.06Kebinusanah
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12:47.32CIA-1303saroz * r8520 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFrames.toc): sRaidFrames: Add some optional dependencies and a few tweaks
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12:49.08Grumpeymorning ./
12:52.02tumetomTek ?
12:52.53[Liquidor]What time is it over in the US now?
12:53.07Grumpey8:53 EST
12:53.13tumetomgood morning
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12:55.55CIA-1303neronix 07TotallyUnusable * r8521 10Zenith_UnitFrames/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:55.55CIA-13Zenith Unit Frames (pre-pre-alpha)
12:55.55CIA-13- Got rid of the feeble attempt to raise errors to the correct level for :error
12:55.55CIA-13and :assert. The tostring'd class name prefixing the message and the message
12:55.55CIA-13itself should provide adequate diagnostic info, no need for line number
12:55.55CIA-13- segmentBase:InitSetPoints now does not take a frame arg
12:55.59CIA-13- frameSegments now create a click catcher overlay
12:56.36tumetomDoes anybody use TekniColors with non-english clients?
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13:04.36CIA-1303neronix 07TotallyUnusable * r8522 10Zenith_UnitFrames/ZUF_MainClasses.lua: Zenith Unit Frames (pre-pre-alpha) - segmentBase:InitSetPoints() should now handle texture segments properly
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13:21.39CIA-1303kaelten * r8523 10OneBag/OneCore.lua:
13:21.39CIA-13OneBag -
13:21.39CIA-13- Overriding the container size function to make it return keyring size as well. You need this update to get OneRing to work.
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13:25.52CIA-1303neronix 07TotallyUnusable * r8524 10Zenith_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Zenith Unit Frames (pre-pre-alpha) - Renamed ZUF_SegmentClass_Name.lua and ZUF_SegmentClass_Portrait.lua to ZUF_FrameSegment_Name.lua and ZUF_FrameSegment_Portrait.lua
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13:38.29tumetomhow long can you be "afk" bevor you get disconnected?
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13:45.31tumetomI would like to hear a warning sound  bevor wow disconnects me...
13:54.06tigghehe, disconnects are quite often these days...
13:57.34Nickenyfikentumetom: i dont know but i think you get kicked out of battlegrounds after 10min afk
13:57.50Nickenyfikendisconnected takes more time i guess
13:58.25Neronixhttp://forums.fortress-forever.com/showthread.php?t=6069 :O
13:58.36NeronixStuff's beginning to shape up
13:59.33tumetomit's the waiting for a bg to start
13:59.40tumetomnot the bg itself
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14:49.27Icerothis there some simple built-in function that displays confirm box with yes/no buttons and returns what user clicked?
14:49.52Icerothsimilar to message()
14:51.31tiggTekcub: there seems to be a localization error magamdar encounter in the german client
14:52.00tiggin the trigger for frenzy detection a ! is missing at the end of the string
14:53.11tiggat least after I added an exclamation mark it worked, before it did not ;)
14:54.31vhaarrtigg: Thanks, fixed.
14:54.36CIA-1303rabbit * r8525 10BigWigs/MC/Magmadar.lua: BigWigs: Magmadar: Fix missing exclamation mark in deDE.
14:55.03FtH|eaglewho created the version check in bigwigs?
14:55.09vhaarrI did.
14:55.14FtH|eagleah good :)
14:55.15vhaarrIt is not done yet.
14:56.13FtH|eagleit's not about the way it looks, it's the framelevel of the tooltip. it's behind everything in my screen. is there a way to change this?
14:58.22vhaarrhm, I don't know, actually.
14:58.26vhaarrI think Tablet handles that, hm.
14:59.09FtH|eaglethat's why I'm saying this, should be a way to define it
14:59.17tumetomIceroth yeah there is
14:59.20vhaarrThat's for ckk to fix, I think.
14:59.31vhaarrFtH|eagle: let me take a look at it later, busy in Naxx at the moment.
14:59.40vhaarrbut OTOH it's Tablets territory.
14:59.46FtH|eaglesame
14:59.49FtH|eaglein naxx ;)
15:00.10tumetomStaticPopupDialogs
15:00.24tumetomhttp://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Popup_Simple_Dialog_Boxes
15:03.33Nickenyfikenhttp://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=1217009&p=1&tmp=1#post1217009
15:03.53Icerothyea i found it already :=
15:05.29Icerothwell, not the wiki page but searching through my addons for example :)
15:05.58Kaeltengmorning all
15:07.36tumetomctra uses it :-P
15:08.03hastefor what?
15:12.37tumetomphuuu do not remember... think readycheck etc...+
15:13.13hasteready check has it's own frame
15:21.13tumetomI  can't remember... i juts know that I first ead about this dialoges while working on a ctra plugin
15:25.30CIA-1303laric * r8526 10AoFHeal/ (AoFHeal.lua AoFHeal_locale.lua):
15:25.30CIA-13AofHeal: Fixed metrognome mistake and fixed onshow errors
15:25.30CIA-13Also fixed the retargeting. (Whenever copy pasting code please remember to check variable names)
15:33.01tumetomStaticPopupDialogs["RESURRECT"] .... a few hooks in Ctra..thats all
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15:40.02FtH|eagleif I use print(string.format("%1.1f", 10.5)) in wow, should the result print 10.5 or 10,5?
15:40.38haste10.5
15:41.39FtH|eaglealright, I wonder which addon is replacing this function and prints 10,5
15:45.17CIA-1303id * r8527 10idUnitWatch/Core.lua: idUnitWatch: Now hides/shows units.
15:48.11FtH|eagleare you really sure? tested it with only tinypad loaded and it prints 60,5
15:48.48hasteWHY does microsoft want me to download IE7 beta 3?
15:48.54tumetomisn't your print function declared as local?
15:49.40FtH|eagleI've done it with default_chat_frame:addmessage
15:50.12hasteyay, I managed to find IE6 :D
15:50.14Industrialhaste, oCD is messing up alot with my hunter
15:50.21Industrialit mekes bars for things I never did
15:50.25Industriallike arcane shot
15:50.32tumetomIndustrial known bug
15:50.35Industriallike 3-4 times in a fight while I never used it
15:50.36Industrialk
15:50.40hasteIndustrial: I'll download idActionBar and check
15:50.45hastebut I don't have a high level hunter :p
15:51.20tumetomthis is a matter of the action slot ids
15:51.22TainMan my server is messed up and has been for 2 days now.
15:52.28Industrialhaste, mines lv 11
15:52.36Industrialhaste, you get it at lv8 afaik
15:52.45hasteokey, mine is L9
15:52.51hasteso I might be able to poke around with it
15:52.54tumetomit depends on how you ordert your spells in your actionbars
15:53.07Industrial..
15:53.12Industrialthats different with everyone
15:53.36hasteIndustrial: but are you able to re-create it?
15:53.46hasteand tell me how :p
15:54.37vhaarr[Ammo]: hrm, getting that AceComm error again
15:54.56Industrialhaste, I just fight a mob
15:55.29tumetomhaste I can recreate the error
15:55.36hasteIndustrial: doesn't help much :p
15:55.44hastetumetom: with what class and actionbar, and how?
15:55.57hastes/ and/,/
15:56.18tumetomhunter/priest
15:56.41tumetomdefault action bar(hunter) grouobuttons(priest)
15:56.58hastedefault? hrmf
15:57.09tumetomfor my priest I tried  do locate the error.
15:57.12hasteI have zero problem on my shaman/rogue/warlock with default
15:57.32hastebut you said you knew how to recreate it - so spit it out ;)
15:57.46tumetomthe problem occurs when the action is located on more than one slot
15:58.07tumetomocd detects the wrong slot  --> wrong cd on the wrong spell
15:59.14hastehrmf, I'll give it a whirl
15:59.22tumetomfor example.... for my group button slots, GetPetActionInfo returns 5.
16:00.11tumetomOCD reads the 5. actionslots tooltip to get the name. but my 5. default action slot is NOt my 5. GB action slot
16:00.49hastewait a sec
16:00.51hastegroup button?
16:01.02hasteI don't care about other add ons then the problem with default right now
16:01.25tumetomI did not check why my defaults don't work... give me a few minutes
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16:05.03CIA-1303otravi * r8528 10oCD/hooks.lua: oCD - Fixed pet cooldowns with Bongos and Bartender2.
16:05.07hastefound one error now, but it's not related to yours
16:08.01tumetomthe groupbutton error does not explain why I had errors without aditional actionbars
16:08.19tumetomI just try to recreate it...
16:09.11hasteI don't get any wrong cooldowns when I place arcane shot all over the place :p
16:10.08Mikmabut you don't use idActionBars ;)
16:10.26hastebut tumetom said he had problems with default
16:11.52tumetomdid you change anything the last days?
16:11.52tumetomI updated this morning.. and I'm not able to recreate it
16:11.52hastenope
16:11.52hasteor depends on hwo many days you think of
16:12.07hastehttp://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/log/trunk/oCD/
16:16.31tumetomphuuu... I  will have a look at it while raiding now..
16:17.22tumetoma different thing... Ora_cooldown is for braodcasting special cds..like soulstone , ankh etc?
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16:24.55hastetumetom: yes
16:29.09CIA-1303iceroth * r8529 10IceHUD/ (14 files in 3 dirs):
16:29.09CIA-13IceHUD: Version 0.5
16:29.09CIA-13- Graphical combo points
16:29.09CIA-13- Various tweaks and bug fixes (ie. mirror timer bar)
16:32.16tumetomhaste is there any addon except of CTRA that kann display this informations?
16:33.03hastenope
16:33.24tumetomhaste: sorry... my hunter uses  autobar  :(.... thats why OCD sometimes displays  strange cds
16:33.26hasteoRA2 has it tho', but I haven't had time to finish it and commit it
16:33.56tumetompls include innervate CDs
16:33.56hastewhat autobar version?
16:34.19tumetomhttp://raidorg.lagcity.de/Addons/zippen.php  this version
16:34.52hasteIt's only a 6min cooldown tho'
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16:35.50tumetombut it is important for a raidleader to know about
16:40.16vhaarr[Ammo]: hrm, think I see the problem
16:40.33hastenot really :p
16:42.22tumetomit is.
16:51.58vhaarrmaia made ChatThrottleLib?
16:52.10vhaarrMikk
16:52.18vhaarr~seen Mikk
16:52.29purlmikk <i=bofh@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 18h 59m 3s ago, saying: 'the collision stats look the way they should, so i'll just go ahead and give it my blessing :-P'.
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16:59.06Kyahx|afkI second Innervate cooldowns
16:59.18KyahxI want to know who to yell at for a mana battery :P
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17:06.09[Ammo]vhaarr: AceComm is not for 1.11 use afaik
17:06.16vhaarrindeed
17:06.18vhaarrthat is the problem
17:06.34[Ammo]vhaarr: so that's why you get the error, it' because oRA2 sees if SendAddonMessage is available
17:06.38[Ammo]if it is it will use it
17:06.49[Ammo]and AceComm touches that via throttlelib or soemething
17:06.53[Ammo]anyway, it's not oRA2's fault
17:06.55vhaarryes
17:07.12vhaarrI just fixed it here by addon |if SendAddonMessage or SendAddOnMessage then| before the hook
17:07.21vhaarrin throttlelib
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17:09.40[Liq]vhaarr, ping
17:10.03vhaarrpong
17:10.19[Liq]"BigWigs/BWL/Razorgore.lua:6: Babble-Boss-2.0: Translation for "Grethok the Controller" does not exist"
17:10.31*** part/#wowace Rophy (n=Rophy@218-170-25-49.dynamic.hinet.net)
17:10.31vhaarrFor enUS?
17:10.33[Liq]Is the error I get after each reload/login
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17:10.46vhaarrThen you didn't update Babble, because I added him for enUS.
17:11.00[Liq]I don't have Babble =)
17:11.06[Liq]I just updated the entire BigWigs folder
17:11.36Kyahx[Liq]: what SVN client are you using?
17:11.45[Liq]It doesn't work with Externals
17:12.02Kyahxthen get one that does :P
17:12.33[Liq]TortoiseSVN doesn't work on anything else than Windows SP2 =)
17:12.40[Liq]Well how can I fix this manually?
17:12.41Kyahxcommand line promt FTW
17:12.51Kyahxwhat OS are you on?
17:12.59[Liq]Windows
17:13.00[Liq]xp
17:13.06Kyahxjust use the SVN binarys
17:13.13[Liq]Don't know how to.
17:13.16Kyahxits easy
17:13.20[Liq]It sure is
17:13.22[Liq]=)
17:13.23Kyahxyou open the command promote (Run -> cmd)
17:13.30[Liq]done
17:13.33Kyahxthen you browse to your addons folder
17:13.51Kyahxwait, you should probley install the binarys first :P
17:14.10[Liq]haha
17:14.36vhaarrthey come with tortoise, I think?
17:14.40vhaarrNot sure.
17:14.49Kyahxhttp://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/32856/svn-1.3.2-setup.exe
17:14.52Kyahxnah
17:14.56tigghmm, bigwigs shazzrah blink seems to be broken eiter
17:14.58Kyahxatleast not as far as I know
17:16.01[Liq]Again, I can't use TortoiseSVN
17:16.23Kyahxthats not tortise...thats a link to the svn binarys
17:16.45[Liq]I know, was responding to vhaarr
17:16.55Kyahxah, kk :P
17:17.04Kyahxbinarys are easy, esepcially if all your doing is downloading and updateing
17:17.19snurredamnit! cthun's second weakened phase ended at 2%
17:17.28Kyahxheh
17:17.29[Liq]Uhm can't I just add the BabbleLib to my addon folder?
17:17.44Kyahx[Liq]: you'd be better off getting a svn client that properly handles externals :P
17:17.55[Liq]=)
17:18.03[Liq]Was even hard to find RapidSVN
17:18.09KyahxRapidSVN sucks IMO
17:18.37Kyahxjust let me know when the binarys are isntalled :P
17:20.03[Liq]It's weird cause with RapidSVN I got the option to Ignore Externals (which ofc is unchecked)
17:20.12[Liq]Not installing em =)
17:20.18[Liq]Don't bother to do all that for an addon =)
17:20.45NeronixTortoise and command line can ignore externals
17:20.57KyahxNeronix: the problem is hes not getting the externals :P
17:21.02Kyahxwith RapisSVN
17:21.06Neronixoh
17:21.06KyahxRapid*
17:21.22NeronixI should've actually read the conversation :P
17:21.37NeronixAnd RapidSVN does indeed suck amphibian phallus
17:21.59KyahxI told him to just install the command line stuff
17:22.35hasteYargh!
17:22.42hasteWindows Update scans forever
17:22.46Kyahxbtw Neronix, DeuceCommander broke =(
17:22.47hasteuntill the laptop shuts off :p
17:24.03NeronixKyahx: Random submenus not appearing? I can't figure it out either
17:24.22NeronixMMTuFu seems to do the same thing I do, and it works
17:24.32Kyahxhmmm
17:24.34NeronixI need to poke Tek or ckknight
17:24.41KyahxI might have to go back to old DC =/
17:24.52NeronixYeah, just do a revert for now
17:25.02Neronixonce I get this sorted, DC should be cleaner
17:25.42Kyahxand it still dosen't like to remember to go to the minimap isntead of fubar
17:25.51Kyahx=/ but I assume thats a fubar problem
17:25.53vhaarr[Ammo]: Some strange things are going on here, our raid leader is spamming the warnings alot.
17:26.12vhaarrLike instead of 1 RW he sends 30.
17:26.32vhaarrHappened on both Noth and Heigan now.
17:26.33NeronixI think it's a FuBar problem too
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17:26.41Neronixregistered an AceDB and everything
17:27.05NeronixBut now, I must go conquer the world and stuff
17:27.19Neronix(In Civ 4 of course)
17:28.23tiggvhaarr: seems to be a missing . this is from my transcriptor log:
17:28.34vhaarrtigg: hm?
17:28.35tigg[254] = "<19:11:46> Shazzrah wirkt Portal von Shazzrah. -[spell_CvCdmg]-"
17:28.40[Ammo]vhaarr: weird
17:29.53vhaarrtigg: No, we use string.find.
17:30.16tigghmm, thats strange, I did not get any portal message
17:32.51vhaarrtigg: ah
17:35.23tiggah?
17:35.27CIA-1303rabbit * r8530 10BigWigs/MC/Shazzrah.lua: BigWigs: Shazzrah: Hopefully fixed both deaded magic and blink.
17:36.16vhaarr*deaden
17:37.28tiggdeadn magic worked btw
17:38.08snurrewee, got Mark of C'Thun
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17:41.00vhaarrtigg: erm?
17:41.01NeronixGah, Civ4 crashed
17:41.05vhaarrtigg: deaden magic worked?!
17:41.14tiggyeah
17:41.17vhaarrwtf
17:41.31tiggjust a second, i will paste the line
17:42.03vhaarr[Ammo]: Does |arg1| exist even if we "rename" it to "msg" in the function declaration?
17:42.14vhaarrlike |BW:EVENT(msg)|
17:42.22vhaarrwill |arg1| be the same as |msg| ?
17:42.26NeronixYeah
17:42.29vhaarraha
17:42.33vhaarrtigg: That explains it.
17:42.39tigg[53] = "<19:11:13> Shazzrah bekommt 'Magie dämpfen'. -[spell_perCbuffs]-",
17:42.49vhaarryeah no worries, I know why it worked now.
17:42.59tiggyep, one is Cbuff and one is CvCdmg
17:45.25haste~moredots
17:45.30purlRun to the centre!
17:46.29tigg"After two sunders you can basically start doing damage to it!" ;)
17:46.54[Ammo]vhaar yeah, but you should use the argument to the function
17:47.04[Ammo]so EVENT(msg) and then use msg inside the event
17:47.31vhaarryeah shazz used arg1, so I didn't think it worked
17:47.50vhaarrchanged it to msg
17:48.14[Ammo]good
17:52.19vhaarr[Ammo]: anything you can think of that will explain this RW spam?
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18:16.21CIA-1303gamefaq * r8531 10OneBag/OneBag.toc: OneBag - German Description updated
18:16.45CIA-1303gamefaq * r8532 10OneBank/OneBank.toc: OneBank - German Description updated
18:17.38CIA-1303gamefaq * r8533 10OneRing/ (OneRing.toc locals.lua):
18:17.38CIA-13OneRing - German Description updated
18:17.38CIA-13German Translation added
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18:18.28hasteHow 'dumb' is it to install Microsoft Update?
18:18.33vhaarr[Ammo]: hm, Comm.lua has had some changes lately, right?
18:18.43vhaarrmaybe it's broken.
18:21.02hasteokey, Microsoft Update is exactly the same as Windows Update...
18:26.43CIA-1303grayhoof * r8535 10SCT/sct/ (localization.kr.lua sct.lua): sct: Updated how self events were called.
18:27.41CIA-1303grayhoof * r8536 10SCT/sct_options/localization.kr.lua: sct_options: updated Korean files
18:28.34CIA-1303grayhoof * r8537 10SCT/sctd_options/localization.kr.lua: sctd_options: updated Korean files
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18:35.47vhaarr[Ammo]: Could it be because I run oRA2 ?
18:36.47FryGuy-OneRing lol
18:38.40[Ammo]vhaarr: I have no problems currently
18:38.48[Ammo]but yeah you can't broadcast with oRA2
18:38.52vhaarr[Ammo]: Turn off bossblock for RW.
18:38.57[Ammo]euhm
18:38.59[Ammo]I have it off
18:39.01[Ammo]it works fine here
18:39.07vhaarrAh, so no spam.
18:39.10[Ammo]yeah
18:39.12[Ammo]it all works
18:39.16[Ammo]I just can't send sync messages myself
18:39.19[Ammo]because I use oRA2
18:39.28[Ammo]and bigwigs doesnt't do oRA2 yet :)
18:40.06vhaarrwhat bosses have you done today?
18:40.15vhaarrI got the spam on Noth and Heigan.
18:40.45CIA-1303hyperactiveChipmunk * r8538 10BigWigs/RaidIcon.lua:
18:40.45CIA-13BigWigs:
18:40.45CIA-13- Removed redundant code from yesterday; was fixed in a different manner between the time I experienced the problem and made my own fix.
18:41.27hastefinally found a way to update the shit windows
18:41.58hasteand people say it's easier to keep Windows up to date compared to Linux ;(
18:42.29kergothheh, screw that.  apt-get upgrade ftw
18:42.31kergoth:P
18:43.01vhaarr[Ammo]: hrm, okay, not getting spammed on Thaddius
18:43.06vhaarrmust be a Noth and Heigan issue
18:44.42hastekergoth: Windows Update didn't work, so I had to manually find and download each and every update
18:44.49hastea total of 52MB, and 27 updates
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18:56.33Amadeohaste: Doesn't work? Is it an illegal copy? :P
18:56.43hasteofc it isn't
18:57.08Amadeothat's weird
18:57.15hasteit just scans forever
18:57.17hasteand ever
18:57.18hasteand ever
18:57.29hasteand after around two hours it says it was unable to do it
18:57.46Amadeowow
18:57.53Kyahxweird
18:57.57AmadeoI think it scans for about 15-20 seconds for me
18:58.00KyahxI have an illegal copy and mine works fine
18:58.03Kyahxlol
18:59.31tyheamhmm weird
18:59.57tyheamrightclick, checkout on a folder
19:00.03tyheamand then it says
19:00.06tyheamError: PROPFIND request failed on '/svnweb/index.cgi/root/browse/trunk/ag_UnitFrames'
19:00.10tyheam:-/
19:00.20hasteIt's Windows 2000, but that shouldn't have anything to say
19:00.28Kyahxtyheam: thats becuase thats not the right URL
19:00.36hasteand I'm NOT installing Windows XP on a 700MHz laptop with 256MB ram
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19:01.30Kyahxtyheam: http://svn.wowace.com/root/
19:01.32KyahxBrowse that to find the proper checkout URL for what you want
19:01.48tyheamye i know but it doesn't work
19:01.54vhaarr..
19:02.02Kyahxthen you did it wrong
19:02.06tyheam:(
19:02.14hastestill scanning :\
19:02.30tyheamurl=http://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/browse/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/
19:02.33Kyahxno
19:02.55Kyahxthats the part you have wrong
19:03.12tyheam:-/
19:03.22Kyahxtyheam: http://svn.wowace.com/root/
19:03.22tyheamwhat's the url then?
19:03.30KyahxI just told you
19:03.35Kyahxbrowse that to find the url you want :P
19:03.41Kyahxnot the SVN:Web stuff
19:04.15Kyahxie http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/
19:05.28tyheamah got it now xD
19:05.37phyberBigWigs seems to be missing a Mind Control alert for Hakkar.
19:06.08hastewould you REALLY need that?
19:06.08phybersomeone in my guild just told me. :)  I'm starting to make them use it ;)
19:06.09phyberno idea, I didn't fight hakkar yet.
19:06.16maiaanyone know a dkp-related addon that will save who was raiding when? (aka on time bonus, left early,...)
19:06.17phyberis there a huge arrow for the MCed person?
19:06.24Nightdewis ckknight still around?
19:09.26vhaarr~seen ckknight
19:09.29purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-102.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 15h 20m 12s ago, saying: 'alright, cya all later, everyone'.
19:09.34vhaarr"cya all later"
19:09.38vhaarrI guess :)
19:12.33Kaeltenk, guys I got a question for all you guys
19:12.50phybergo :)
19:12.56Kaeltenif I where to do away with the ability to {bob = true} in ace Locale would you all hate me?
19:13.10hyperChipmunkyes
19:13.12Kaeltenbasically forcing you to type {bob = "bob"}
19:13.21hyperChipmunkthat's how it was originally
19:13.29hyperChipmunkthe problem isn't bob
19:13.36Kaeltenits bob x 25
19:13.37KaeltenI know
19:14.01Kyahxwasnt the problem "This string is super long and needs to be localized" = "This string is super long and needs to be localized" ???
19:14.04Kaeltenthe problem is right now to continue support of that its going to make it hard for me to make AceLocale fast
19:14.18hyperChipmunkit's 4-liners duplicated twice with a tiny = in between
19:14.53hyperChipmunkand 20 of them in a file
19:15.04KaeltenI know.   but it provides overhead
19:15.04hyperChipmunkso you open your localization and it's a huge friggin block of text
19:15.14CIA-1303moonsorrow * r8539 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Grobbulus.lua:
19:15.14CIA-13BigWigs (Grobbulus):
19:15.15CIA-13- deDE translation of injection was wrong
19:15.35Kaeltenit slows down every call you make for a locale
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19:23.09KaeltenhyperChipmunk: why not do "Short Discriptor: = "Long String"
19:23.43hyperChipmunkwhy not do LONG_STRING = "Long String" and just use that
19:23.56hastestill scanning....
19:24.16Kaeltenwhat cha mean by Long_String?
19:24.29hyperChipmunksame thing we've been doing before AceLocale
19:24.50Kaeltenwell explain it to me because I'm retarted today :)
19:25.07Kaeltenwhat would Long_STRING be just a string constant?
19:25.19hyperChipmunkthen you could do {LONG_STRING = LONG_STRING}
19:25.30hyperChipmunkbut that pretty much defeats the point of AceLocale
19:25.37hyperChipmunkwhich I thought was self-documentation
19:25.56Kaeltenwell you know as well as I do that we've been having issues with localization in critical functions
19:26.15KaeltenI'm trying to find a no overhead way around this and its not working :s
19:26.44hyperChipmunkthe no overhead way is to not use AceLocale
19:26.52Kaeltenlol
19:27.09Kaeltenwell I'm trying to minimize the overhead, hows that?
19:27.44hyperChipmunkpeople are stupid for speakign other languages anyway
19:27.47Kaeltenmy goal is to maintain compatability, pretty close
19:28.09hastehyperChipmunk: helt enig...
19:29.21IndustrialhyperChipmunk, ja ze moeten gewoon maar engels leren net als ik
19:29.28hastehaha, I love my new dagger ;)
19:29.41Industrialmr pointy?
19:29.43Industrial:P
19:29.48hasteno, it's a off-hand dagger ;)
19:29.51hasteI have a mace in my main-hand
19:30.02Industrialthought you had a big sword
19:30.20hastethat's a off-hand sword actually
19:30.25Industrialo
19:30.28hastejust that I didn't have a better main-hand
19:30.32hastebut now I do
19:30.35Industrial\o/
19:30.53maiaso who won the fight ckk and clad had?
19:31.03maia(lets call it discussion)
19:31.05Industrialfight? where? about?
19:31.14hastenon of they are in here so ... :o
19:31.33maiaIndustrial: about optimizing AceLocale
19:32.00Industrialah none of my addons uses text so *shrug*
19:32.20Industrialwell localized text :P
19:32.21Nightdewcan somebody explain to me the limitation of being able to only subscribe a SINGLE eventhandler to an event through AceEvent-2.0 ?
19:32.26KyahxWhat fight?
19:32.29vhaarr[Ammo]: No spam on Faerlina or Maexxna either, so it must be Noth and Heigan that are not working.
19:32.33Kyahxah
19:32.53IndustrialNightdew, you are supposed to decide what to do with the event handler, you know 'handle it'.
19:33.29haste~moredots
19:33.42purlYou are going to DPS very, very slowly... and I mean f*cking slow!
19:33.59Nightdewuntrue
19:34.08Nightdewespecially when you try to abstract certain things
19:34.16Industrialpastebin it
19:34.19NightdewI have a core object that includes mixins
19:34.30Nightdewthe mixins individually want to subscribe to events
19:34.42Nightdewand apply logic indepedently.
19:34.51NightdewThe core object has no bussines knowing what events
19:35.19hastestill scanning....
19:35.19Industrialthen use the mixin to register the event
19:35.25Industrialand not he core object
19:35.32Nightdewwhat if they register for the same event from multiple mixins
19:35.37Nightdew*exactly the problem*
19:35.44Industrialhmmm
19:35.50Industrialright
19:35.51Industrial:p
19:36.14IndustrialI dunno xD
19:36.47hasteNightdew: go into a city, and try it with TABARD_CAN_SAVE or some other tabard event
19:36.55hastethen you will see what happens
19:37.00Nightdewhuh?
19:37.04haste(Since that event fires like mad ;---D)
19:37.07CIA-1303kyahx 07otravi * r8540 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2: Fixed toggling buffs/debuffs, I think.
19:37.30Nightdewlack of dicipline shouldnt be the reason for limitations
19:37.50AmadeoYou lack discipline!
19:37.53CIA-1303kyahx 07otravi * r8541 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF_Player/player.lua: oUF2_Player: Buffs/debuffs will be properly updated on login if they are enabled.
19:37.57Amadeo(Arnold voice)
19:38.01Nightdewevents by definition allow of multiple independent event handlers
19:38.02Kyahxhaste: I hope you don't mind :)
19:38.14hasteKyahx: as long as you fix the errors you make, I'm happy ;)
19:38.19Kyahx:)
19:38.44hasteI was going to poke you about that one also :p
19:39.04Kyahxheh
19:40.40hastemy god!
19:40.44hasteIt stopped scanning!
19:41.00hasteafter almost one hour!
19:41.18Kyahxheh
19:41.43Amadeoit was deleting Linux off your other partition
19:41.49vhaarr:D
19:42.03hasteAmadeo: uhm, I don't have windows on this computer
19:42.17hasteI have a laptop
19:42.20hastewhich I use for ventrilo
19:42.25hastewhich runs Windows 2000
19:42.27AmadeoI thought you were still talking about Windows Update
19:42.35hasteyes, on my laptop
19:42.41Amadeowell
19:42.44Amadeoit jumped through your network
19:42.49Amadeoand deleted Linux off your other computer!
19:43.16hasteyes, it used 1h to hack my ssh
19:43.24hastewhich only accepts certain IPs :p
19:43.27Amadeothen it put a pic of Bill Gates as your wallpaper
19:43.29Kyahxamazing!
19:43.39Kyahx:P
19:43.45Amadeohah
19:44.26FISKER_Qhow can it put something there that you already have
19:44.35FISKER_Q*faps to his bill gates wallpaper*
19:44.42hastegod I love felstriker
19:44.55Kyahxlucky bastard
19:45.10FISKER_Qit's a shame you don't see similar procs on other weapons :(
19:45.24IndustrialI cought a pink tallstrider
19:45.25Industrial:o
19:45.26FISKER_Qit's like "OH TEH NOZ" when you're getting the good daggers and have to chose
19:45.28FISKER_Qchoose*
19:45.31hasteKyahx: got it on the first UBRS run I did on my rogue
19:45.32Industrialcaught
19:45.35hastewith only guildies :p
19:45.38Kyahxpsh
19:45.44hasteI never got the pauldrons of elements on my shaman tho'
19:45.51hastedid like.... 60 UBRS runs for them :(
19:45.55hastethey also dropped that run :p
19:46.07Mikmayou know why?
19:46.13Mikmabecause you touch yourself at nights
19:46.18hasteofc
19:46.32Industrialare pink tallstriders common?
19:46.37Industrialit was a rare so..
19:46.43Kaeltenok I was able to preserve the behavior and get rid of the overhead both :)
19:46.47hasteit's rare I believe
19:46.54Mikmain auberdine?
19:47.09Industrialno
19:47.13Nightdewis there anyway to retrieve the currently subscribed event?
19:47.19hasteheh... Windows Update... downloading update 13 og 67
19:47.31Nightdewevent handler*
19:47.49Kyahxhmmm, so the color picker is part of the discord library eh?
19:47.57hasteyhink so
19:48.19Kyahx:P I must extract it
19:48.44hasteKyahx: it will eat your babies.
19:48.49Kyahxhmmm
19:49.12KyahxSuprisingly, the discord library all by itself isnt that big or evil
19:49.51Industrialhttp://xs305.xs.to/xs305/06330/WoWScrnShot_082006_214603.jpg
19:49.57hasteMr. Loz is a person who hates using other peoples work
19:50.15hasteIndustrial: hot :D
19:50.38Industrial:)
19:51.10hasteI made it so when felstriker procs, my screen pulses with a red texture for 3 sec :p
19:51.17Nightdewlol AceEvent:IsEventRegistered is defined twice in AceEvent-2.0
19:51.23Industrialhaste, I dont like using others work too
19:51.52Industrialbut Im a dick too :P
19:51.55hastehehe
19:51.58hasteI'm pretty much the same
19:52.16hastebut I like knowing that what others have made is good :)
19:52.21Industrialyeah
19:52.43Nightdewand yall use ace ;)
19:52.55hasteand yet you didn't get the context of what I ment
19:52.58FISKER_Qyou can tame tallstriders?
19:53.04FISKER_Qah
19:53.06FISKER_Qmodelediting
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19:58.33IndustrialFISKER_Q, no way
19:58.37NightdewAnyone know what the german translation is of shadow trance?
19:59.00Industrialits really small and cute - its a keeper :)
20:00.12tyheam10[21:58] Nightdew: 01Anyone know what the german translation is of shadow trance? <-- I think Schattentrance but I will take a look
20:00.30Nightdewty
20:01.01hastetyheam: please, oh I beg you... disable your mIRC colors
20:01.27hasteor try it now ;)
20:01.37tyheamtest
20:01.55hasteno colors here at least
20:02.14hastebut I removed mIRC colors now ;)
20:02.57tyheamI use the standard trillian colors :)
20:03.52snurreserverfirst cthun and 25% from serverfirst anub'rekhan today :p
20:04.11kergothcolor on irc, unless you're the CIA bot, is the devil
20:05.08phyberyay, Razorgore down :)
20:05.48Nightdewanyone have a french translation?
20:06.06vhaarrphyber: BW mod working?
20:07.30phybervhaarr: kind of, the egg count was way off.
20:07.40vhaarrdefine "way off"
20:08.05phyberwe got all the eggs down and egg mod only said 3 were down
20:08.11vhaarro.O
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20:08.23vhaarrHow many in your raid used an updated BW?
20:08.31phyberjust two of us at the moment :p
20:08.52vhaarrWell someone that uses BW must pick up the combat event.
20:08.54vhaarrhm
20:09.00vhaarrDid you or him controll Razor?
20:09.07phybernegative.
20:09.16vhaarrWere you both in the same corner?
20:09.28phybernah, different corners.
20:09.33phyberbottom left / top left
20:09.33vhaarrThen the mod is bugged.
20:09.40vhaarrDid you transcript it?
20:09.49phybernope, i will next time though.
20:09.53vhaarrExcellent.
20:10.58vhaarrphyber: English client?
20:12.41phyberyeah
20:12.45phyberEU
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20:19.33CIA-1303nightdew * r8542 10BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0/Babble-Spell-2.0.lua:
20:19.33CIA-13Babble-Spell-2.0:
20:19.33CIA-13- http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=105
20:19.33CIA-13- zhCN and koKR are missing for Shadow Trance
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20:21.13hasteI miss CIAs colors now :(
20:21.27CodayusHmm
20:21.50CodayusWhat's a pattern that would capture an item link?
20:21.55*** join/#wowace Silv (n=Silvio@adsl-21-217-111.mem.bellsouth.net)
20:22.21Mikk|Hitem:.-|h.-|h
20:22.26Mikkwill match it
20:22.30Mikknot capture, obviously =)
20:22.34CodayusThanks
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20:23.41NightdewTekcub: you around/
20:25.50CIA-1303rabbit * r8543 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Maexxna.lua: BigWigs: Maexxna: Don't spam enragesoonwarn.
20:28.55Silvsigh
20:29.25Silvi'm such a CreateFrame/SetTexture noob
20:29.42Silvanyone have a moment they can spare to take a look at a simple art layer?
20:29.49Silvi'm missing something
20:32.01FtH|eagleshow it
20:33.13Kaeltenpeople are going to hate me because the interface for AceLocale is going to change
20:33.34KyahxOperation complete!
20:33.41Kyahx:)
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20:34.00CodayusHmmm
20:34.24Kaeltenwhat you already hate me!
20:34.26Kaeltenbah
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20:37.16Kaeltenbe back in a bit guys
20:41.39Kyahx:)  please hold
20:41.43Kyahx. . .
20:42.46phyberdoes Vael give you the mana buff on all attempts or just the first one?
20:42.54Kyahxall attempts
20:42.58phybergood.
20:43.05Kyahxhes impossible without it
20:43.06phybersome idiot was saying it was only the first one.
20:43.17hasteit bugged before tho'
20:43.23hasteso you didn't get it if you had it
20:43.27hasteie. refersh it
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20:44.54Kyahxhttp://www.hybrid-fusion.com/~pots/Mods/DiscordColorPicker.zip
20:44.57Kyahxta-da!
20:47.42hasteTheondry: why put the date there? it's in the SVN log anyway
20:49.39CIA-1303rabbit * r8545 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: Thaddius: Don't warn twice about phase 1.
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20:58.47CodayusIs there a better way to find if a table is empty than: "if t == {} then ..."?
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20:59.12hyperChipmunkmis
20:59.13hyperChipmunkt == {} doesn't work
20:59.21kergotheach {} constructs a new table
20:59.25FtH|eagleyou could use table.getn, but you can setn to what you want to
20:59.25kergothand == goes by object identity, not contents
20:59.28hyperChipmunkyou want if not next(t)
20:59.36FtH|eagleoh that works?
20:59.37kergothyou want if next(t) == nil then, to be pedantic about it
20:59.43CodayusExcellent.
20:59.44kergoth:)
20:59.46hyperChipmunkwell, yea
20:59.56hyperChipmunkif you're storing booleans
20:59.59hyperChipmunkyou gotta ==nil
21:00.44FtH|eagleah nice
21:00.44kergothits pretty crazy to use booleans as the keys rather than the values, anyway, but whatever :)
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21:00.51kergothpeople do silly things
21:01.21vhaarrFritti: BugSack is really annoying when you get the kind of errors that repeat indefinetely
21:02.00KyahxFix the errors :P
21:02.10CodayusThanks, that worked.
21:02.19KyahxIt would be just as annoying to have a popup box repeat indefinently :P
21:02.24vhaarrNo, Kyahx.
21:02.30vhaarrBecause then you can just NOT click it.
21:02.38vhaarrBugSack spams the chat frame.
21:02.42Kyahxhmm
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21:05.32CodayusOkay, next question.  :)  I need some way to translate "lock", "locks", "warlock", "warlocks" into the string "WARLOCK" (and ditto for other variations of other classes).  There isn't a better way than manually constructing a big table of the form ["LOCKS"] = "WARLOCK" is there?
21:05.37tumetombugsack should show the same error only once
21:06.38CodayusSeems...weird somehow.
21:07.51Theondrycodayus: string.gsub?
21:08.04CodayusHm
21:08.21MikkYou have those substrings already?
21:08.37TheondryI don't know how to use it, however, I suspect that you could parse the incoming string against a table, and do a substitution as needed.
21:08.47MikkIf so, lookupTable[string.lower(class)] is the way to do it
21:09.05Mikki.e. lookupTable["locks"]="WARLOCK", etc
21:09.41CodayusOkay, my current approach is what Mikk said.
21:10.10TheondryThen please ignore mine.  I seldom know what I'm doing with this stuff.  :)
21:10.20CodayusBasically, I've got a string of the form:  "class1 class2 class3 class4".  I want to parse it to work out what classes are being mentioned, but I can't rely on people giving the full name.
21:10.58CodayusSo I want to be able to understand:  "locks priests mage", or "warlock priest mages" as being the same...
21:12.04Mikktable lookup is certainly the fastest, if that matters
21:12.28CodayusNot hugely.  It's a DKP/bidding/auction mod, so this parsing is done once per epic, and only out of combat.
21:12.58Codayusgsub would be interesting, but then I could match "rouge" to "rogue".  Of course I could just tell users to lern2spell...
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21:13.06Codayuscouldn't match, even
21:13.14Mikmahmm
21:13.20Mikmawe're making progress in AQ20 today
21:13.30Mikkif you care about localization, you could try matching the inputs against the localized class names (as substrings)
21:13.36Mikmaat normal day we can't even down Rajaxx
21:13.47Mikmanow we downed him on second try and moam on second try
21:14.28Mikmawe COULD have owned rajaxx in first try but everyone got the normal 10-15sec lagspike and rajaxx owned npc's (all five) and got all of us at 50% when the spike ended
21:14.41CodayusRajaxx is an annoying fight.  If it bugs, it's impossible.  If it doesn't, it's just a matter of knowing the trick and not screwing up for a massively long and boring fight.
21:14.47Mikmaand we COULD have owned moam too on first try if only the noobwarlock wouldn't have ninjapulled him
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21:15.37Mikmayeah, all npc's were alive when general came in both attempts
21:15.39CodayusAnd I dislike Moam too, because for the life of us we can't seem to get it without 3 warlocks, and I hate having to stack a raid for one fight.  :-)
21:16.28hastehrmf, I just pissed of a script kiddie.. that can't be good
21:16.40Mikmahaste: omg lol
21:16.51Mikmahaste: tell him to flood your alt, Nickserv
21:17.13hastethere isn't a nickserv on qnet :p
21:17.56Mikmaomg owned
21:18.32FISKER_Qmoam can be done with no warlocks at all
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21:19.02CodayusFISKER_Q: ?  Burn him down before he summons?
21:19.07CodayusWe lack the DPS for that.  :-)
21:19.28FISKER_Qyou can do that or get a tank to tank the adds while you down the rest
21:19.59vhaarrOr just uses priests to manaburn him.
21:20.04FISKER_Qbut we usually die to the adds after we kill moam if we don't have enough warlocks :(
21:20.04CodayusFISKER_Q: Tried to banish 2, tank 1, but it didn't go so well.  <shrug>
21:20.15Codayusvhaarr: That doesn't stop the summon.
21:20.21FISKER_Qmana draining has nothing to do with the elementals
21:20.22Icerothi woudln't want to try moam with less than 2 locks really :)
21:20.44Iceroth1 add can be offtanked and killed but more than that is messy
21:20.52CodayusI think we should be able to do it with 2 locks, but last time we tried, we had a nub lock who took 20 seocnds to banish.
21:20.53FISKER_Qyup
21:21.11CodayusSo we were basically doing it with 1 lock, and that was beyond us.
21:21.16FISKER_Qbasically when the adds are summoned it's  "Get the elementals the heck out of here and kill moam"
21:21.20FISKER_Qunless you get 3 warlocks
21:21.22hastehrmf....
21:21.47hastemy ssh server is currently getting hammered
21:21.59hasteguess I did something stupid today :p
21:22.34Icerothwell what did you do?)
21:23.00hasteI pissed of a script kiddie, and he went totally emo and started spamming me wiht how I'm going to get DDoS
21:23.02Nightdewwho is in charge of flyspray?
21:23.08hasteand now a script is hammering my ssh server :p
21:23.21Mikmablock the ip :)
21:23.36hastehe can't get in anyway, my ssh uses a whitelist for ips
21:23.46hyperChipmunkMikma: the first D stands for distributed
21:24.07FISKER_Q^^
21:24.19MikmahyperChipmunk: ok
21:24.21phyberhaste: http://fail2ban.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
21:24.30phyberI find that this helps quite a lot :)
21:24.34phyberI use it on my mailserver too
21:24.48phyberto drop people that are trying to hammer it to find valid usernames.
21:25.32phyberdefault config contains the ssh stuff :)
21:25.35hasteyeh, I know about it
21:26.03Icerothooh, gotta install that
21:26.28Icerothmy logs are always full of stupid login hammering attempts
21:26.36Icerothuser:john
21:31.35CodayusHmmm
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21:40.08maiawhats the syntax to add a line break when printing stuff inside an editbox?
21:40.46hyperChipmunkcheck your TinyPad SV file
21:41.25Nickenyfikendoes Visor work like moveanything and DFM?
21:42.43maiaI'm not using TinyPad. ;9
21:43.01maiaits probably something like |n?
21:43.09maia(pipe-n)?
21:44.26hyperChipmunklemem check mine
21:44.49hyperChipmunk\n
21:45.45maiabackslash, not pipe? interesting. assumed it would be pipe as color formatting as using pipes as well.
21:46.41Mikk\n is standard escape codes
21:46.51Mikkthe pipe stuff is WoW specific
21:47.02Mikkbackslash escaping is common to most other languages
21:47.13maiaI see, thanks.
21:47.14Mikk\n = new line, \r = carriage return, \t = tab, \a = bell ...
21:47.23maiabell?
21:47.26Mikk*beep*
21:47.33Mikkexcept wow doesn't beep
21:47.37Mikka console lua app will though =)
21:47.37TainDingdong
21:48.05maia;)
21:48.06Codayus
21:48.15Codayus<PROTECTED>
21:48.17Codayuswee
21:48.25Mikkor if you want to go VB on us you can define vbCr = string.byte(10) and use that :-P
21:49.04Mikkanyways. zztime.
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21:54.30AmadeoI wish Opera worked with more websites :(
21:55.14TemI wish blizzard would roll out the new forums
21:55.19Temthey sucked less on firefox
21:55.56AmadeoI don't like any of the new stuff Blizzard is doing with their sites
21:56.04Amadeoit has a nice layout, but it's way too slow loading
21:56.11IndustrialI never go there
21:56.37hasteI wish blizzard used the LowBW template all the time
21:56.49Amadeome too
21:57.07AmadeoNot UltraHighBW template
21:57.09CodayusUm...how do I escape a [ in a pattern?
21:57.22Industrial%[
21:57.25hyperChipmunk%
21:57.33Codayusthanks
21:57.36Industrialnp
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21:58.04Mikmagood evening ag`
21:58.13CIA-1303nightdew * r8546 10BabbleLib/Babble-Spell-2.0/Babble-Spell-2.0.lua:
21:58.13CIA-13Babble-Spell-2.0:
21:58.13CIA-13- Fixed a missing ']'
21:58.24Amadeoheya ag`
21:58.27ag`hi
21:58.32Amadeohow was your trip?
21:58.41ag`I'm still there
21:58.43ag`at the hotel room
21:58.46Amadeooh, cool
21:58.49AmadeoI need a laptop :(
21:58.57ag`what was the name of that steak house? :P
21:59.05Amadeohaha
21:59.17Amadeooh man, now you made it slip my mind
21:59.34ag`:p
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21:59.51Industrialag` what was the name of that steak house? :P <-- thunder bluff
22:00.02TainI used to go down to Pennsylvania to visit a friend and we'd go to the Steak n Shake.
22:00.06ag`hehe
22:00.37TainThe one place I really miss from when I was living in California though was the Sirloin Stockade.
22:00.42TainI liked it there.
22:00.54Amadeooh yeah
22:00.58AmadeoPeter Luger
22:01.32Amadeothey only serve porterhouse though
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22:01.46Amadeosome 100 year tradition or something
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22:02.19CIA-13IFrameFactory:
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22:02.20hyperChipmunksteak n shake wins all
22:03.18AmadeoI know someone who works at one of those
22:03.22Amadeoin PA or something
22:03.59ag`Industrial: what does your frame factory do?:)
22:04.10Industrialnot mine :P
22:04.37TainActually I liked going down that way, would always stop to pick up a couple fresh Shoo Fly Pies
22:04.47Amadeoanyone work for a computer place that sells hardware? :)
22:04.47ag`ah, I misread it..
22:10.09AmadeoOpera is so weird, I don't know if I like it anymore
22:10.15AmadeoIt pauses while loading sites for too long
22:10.22Amadeoand too many website display issues :(
22:10.56PProvostWhich version are you using?
22:11.25Amadeo9.1 I think, whatever the newest is
22:11.29Amadeobut it's been doing this for a while
22:11.40PProvostHmmm... 9 was supposed to be a lot better. I gave up when 8 went bad.
22:11.59AmadeoYou've never noticed that? You load a site up, and it just pauses on the current page for 10-20 seconds before it finally downloads it?
22:13.23PProvostHave you tried Firefox on the same page at the same time?
22:13.46FISKER_Qisn't it just opera waiting to render the page until it's fully downloaded?
22:13.51FISKER_Qthere's an option to disable that
22:15.12Amadeothat's not it though
22:15.17Amadeobecause when it loads the page, it's slow too sometimes
22:15.19Amadeoit's very random
22:15.25AmadeoI don't think it's related to network/bandwidth
22:15.32Amadeoit happens on sites like www.gmail.com and such
22:15.45AmadeoPProvost: Yeah, only Opera does this
22:15.59PProvostInteresting. Is it always AJAX sites like GMail?
22:16.05PProvost(Looking for a pattern)
22:16.18Amadeohm
22:16.34Amadeoit's doing it on techbargains.com for me now
22:16.43Amadeoit's just paused at Images 0/0
22:16.52Amadeothen finally it loads
22:17.01Amadeoand it always pauses with a few images left
22:17.05Amadeotakes forever to actually finish the page up
22:17.11Amadeo67/73
22:17.46Amadeohm, this site might have bandwidth issues though
22:17.48Amadeohaha
22:18.18Amadeonow it's doing it on shacknews.com
22:18.44AmadeoDocument 0 B
22:19.33Amadeonow the page is up, but only 23% loaded, all I have is unformatted text and a white backround
22:19.41Amadeostill loading... :P
22:20.30Amadeostuck on images 5/9
22:21.52Kaeltenback
22:21.52Amadeoif this was fixed, I'd probably deal with the other compatibility issues
22:21.56Amadeosup Kaelten
22:22.02Kaeltenrewriting AceLocale
22:22.31Amadeosounds...fun?
22:22.36Kaeltenloads :)
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22:23.41PProvostFWIW, techbargains.com came up very fast in FF for me.
22:23.50Amadeohm
22:24.13PProvostAs I said, I gave up on Opera when the 8.x series went crappers
22:25.13PProvostBeen a FF guy ever since
22:25.13PProvostBut the reviews of FF 2.0 are leaving me wondering...
22:25.33AmadeoThe reason I like Opera is it loads fast even when I have something resource intensive like WoW running
22:27.14kergothff 2.0 beta 1 loads a fair bit faster than 1.x
22:28.15AmadeoYeah?
22:28.37AmadeoI forgot, the other reason I like Opera is that nobody targets its userbase for exploits :P
22:30.55evland that it runs plugins about at 10% speed of FF and IE :P
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22:32.22AmadeoI'd rather turn all that crap off anyway
22:32.28AmadeoI hate Flash and all that
22:33.11CIA-1303ammo 07Ammo * r8548 10oRA2/oRA2/ (Leader/Item.lua Participant/Item.lua): oRA2: missing translations fixed
22:33.15CIA-1303rabbit * r8549 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: Thaddius: Maybe the charge type checking works now - untested.
22:33.36CIA-1303ammo 07otravi * r8550 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/casting.lua: oCB: more robust coding was getting errors oCB.Delay was nil and you only checked for ~= 0
22:35.28[Ammo]vhaarr: I did Noth and Heigan today, no spam
22:35.37[Ammo]so someone in your raid has a br0ken mod or something
22:35.39vhaarrthat is weird
22:35.46vhaarrYeah, sounds like it.
22:35.46[Ammo]no problems at all here
22:35.49[Ammo]with the current bigwigs
22:35.57[Ammo]and I have 30+ people using it
22:36.25CIA-1303cladhaire 07Ace2 * r8551 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaidOptions.lua: PerfectRaid: Sorting visibility changes now happen immediately.
22:37.11haste[Ammo]: you can remove the whole if there actually
22:37.14hasteif you didn't
22:37.19[Ammo]I didn't
22:37.23hasteI should really commit my local copy :p
22:37.28[Ammo]but oCB.Delay was nil]
22:37.41[Ammo]I got complaint about format() getting nil where number was expected
22:37.50hasteyeh, on first channeling spell
22:38.00[Ammo]indeed
22:38.02[Ammo]after /rl
22:38.23vhaarrhaste: you could remove line 266 and 267 in oCB2 core.lua, I think
22:38.29AsniCT_RaidAssist 2 -- That's right, 2. We are developing a far more advanced, far more customizable, far more efficient, and far upgraded version of the most used mod for World of Warcraft.
22:38.30vhaarrthe dew is never used
22:38.42hastevhaarr: It's planned to be used, that's why it was there
22:38.46hasteit's  developement version
22:39.27Gngskct_ra 2?
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22:39.41Asniyes, just read it on ctmod.net:p
22:39.46maiaI'll stick with oRa2.
22:40.09Gngskwhy the 2 though?
22:40.11[Ammo]I'll try and keep oRA2 compat with it :)
22:40.20Gngskkeeping up with the joneses I suppose
22:40.23[Ammo]oRA2 = Ace2
22:40.26Asnirecoded from scratch
22:40.31[Ammo]anyway, gotta go
22:40.35ThraeOh? There's a CTRA2 coming?
22:40.45Asnihttp://ctmod.net/
22:40.49Asniclick click
22:40.49Asni:p
22:40.58TainYes Cide has been working on a big new version.
22:41.03maiaAsni: you're not Cide/Kayun, right?
22:41.10Asninono i'm not
22:41.14Asnijust read their site:)
22:41.30maiaoh
22:41.30AmadeoTain: Big, huh?
22:46.45Mikmahaste: yo
22:46.49hasteMikma: hei
22:46.59Mikmahaste: what were the 2 functions to flash edges of screen
22:47.28NeronixDammit, Civ4 takes way too long to play :<
22:47.56ThraeMikma: UIFrameFlash( OutOfControlFrame ) or UIFrameFlash( LowHealthFrame ) with some other arguments I can't remember. I use it in VitalWatch (damn that buggy mod of mine).
22:48.03Neronix(I wont a space race victory, while zerging^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hat war with America)
22:48.42ThraeDamn those Hat Wars! Damn then. We all know the terrorists live in Habberdasheries.
22:48.43Neronixs/nt/n/
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22:49.14MikmaThrae: thanks :D
22:52.22Mikmahttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3050
22:52.29Mikmai'm 50/50 to try that
22:53.36ThraeThat -was- my attention with VitalWatch
22:53.48ThraeBut then I got caught up in other things. Right now VitalWatch only watches health and mana.
22:54.07hastelearn2play, don't slack
22:54.07Mikmaall i could really need as a healer is aggrowatch
22:54.24Mikma"bling bling you have aggro!"
22:54.34Thrae"Gained Aggro" and "Lost Aggro" -probably- applies to PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED and PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED
22:54.45ThraeIE, combat or out of combat
22:54.50HealthNot in raid
22:54.57HealthThen you're in combat most of the time
22:55.27ThraeI'm just talking about "Emergency"'s implementation.
22:55.41HealthI wonder how often wowhead runs batches with new data
22:56.00ThraeI need to finish my changes to ParserLib so I can start on my own AggroWatch module for Combatotron.
22:56.31ThraeI want one that also tells me when a squishy is attacked.
22:56.51HealthYou get that kind of info?
22:57.05ThraeParserLib == Combat Log Parser Lib
22:57.36HealthYeah... but I meant, you easilly get info on who in a whole raid have aggor?
22:58.01Zerylis the lootframe windows named something different while in a raid?
22:58.18Neronixhttp://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/trailer/ hahahaha
22:58.18ThraeNot easily. You have to be in range to receive the event. If you are in range, then you just have to wait until the person is actually attacked.
22:58.33CIA-1303grayhoof * r8552 10SCT/sct/ (install.txt readme.txt sct.lua): sct: Cleaned up description. Updated readme and install documents.
22:59.07Neronix(Note: It's not what you think it is)
22:59.45CIA-1303grayhoof * r8553 10SCT/sctd/ (install.txt readme.txt sctd.lua): sctd: Cleaned up code and description. Updated readme and install documents.
23:00.41CIA-1303grayhoof * r8554 10SCT/sctd_options/ (options.lua options.xml): sctd_options: Changed version check number. Update slider order to be the same as SCT.
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23:02.25ThraeHrrrrrrm.
23:03.34Mikmai haven't had any food today
23:03.38Mikmaso i'm hungry as zombie
23:03.53Mikmathat's the reason why i decided to open up a strawberry cider
23:03.58Mikmawill get into my head *fast*
23:04.05ThraeZombies aren't very hungry, look at how lifeless they are.
23:04.20Mikmawell not like i have a life anyway
23:04.37HealthThrae, usually you want to know if a squisy has aggro before they get hit =)
23:05.01ThraeHealth: That's not easily determinable
23:05.50ThraeThe other option I was going to add...emphasis on OPTION...is to scan Raid Targets of Targets (unfriendly targets) and see if they ever change. But there's absolutely no way to tell if someone gains aggro from something not targetted by anybody.
23:06.02NeronixThe only way to do that is to look at all 40 raidXtargets every 0.2s or so
23:06.09ThraeAnd that is, of course, an expensive operation.
23:06.11Neronixwhich would make baby jesus cry
23:06.14ThraeRight.
23:06.15HealthYeah, that's what I thought
23:06.23ThraeI wonder if there is a raid scanning lib?
23:06.38Healthsync chan too slow to tell such thing?
23:06.45HealthAs the aggro option in ctra tells
23:06.58Healthwhen you get aggro, a message in the sync chan would be too slow?
23:07.01ThraeHealth: There's no event fired when you gain or lose aggro
23:07.09ThraeIf you're already in combat
23:07.12NeronixThat probably checks targettarget
23:07.19HealthHmm.. yeah, maybe
23:07.27Neronixso if something other than that targets you, it won't detect it
23:07.34ThraeRight
23:07.46ThraeWe're just left with making baby jesus cry
23:07.49HealthYou mean, if no one has that target targeted you wont notice it?
23:08.02NeronixAnd then all the fundies will call us terrorists :<
23:08.03ThraeI mean hey, he died for our sins, he can cry a little for better aggro control
23:08.35ThraeHealth: If you already have a target, it doesn't switch to someone attacking you
23:08.39ThraeNot everyone uses Click-Casting
23:08.51ThraeAnd, multiple enemies can target you at once
23:09.30ThraeNow if everyone has the same mod, we can do magical things like cluster the target scanning
23:09.54ThraeUsing a communications medium, we can pass along the information after scanning the targets of people -not- using the addon.
23:09.56CIA-1303grayhoof * r8555 10SCT/sct_options/localization.de.lua: sct_options: Updated German locals
23:10.24ThraeWho scans who would be distribtuted over the people that have the addon. So if 10/40 have the addon, then each would scan 4, including themselves.
23:10.52ThraeBaby jesus would be pleased, methinks.
23:11.09NeronixBut that's just a rube goldberg solution
23:11.13HealthYeah, something like that was what I was thinking when I asked it it would work :p
23:11.21Neronixthe simple one is to hold back a little on the dps :P
23:11.50ThraeKLHThreatMeter is still an estimate ;)
23:11.54HealthYou can get aggro from healers :p
23:12.00ThraeIt's also evil and must die.
23:12.57CIA-1303cladhaire 07Ace2 * r8556 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Minor change to FD detection
23:13.25Neronixhm, that commit reminds me
23:13.44NeronixZenith is getting closer to a usable pre-alpha state
23:14.05ThraeZenith?
23:14.19NeronixI just need the statsStandard, ML, rank, leader and pvp icon segments done
23:14.27NeronixThrae: Unit Frame mod I'm coding
23:14.38ThraeHeh
23:15.42Neronix`sleepnight
23:15.42ThraeI wish someone had gone ahead and finished up Thisterhall's UnitFrame framework. We seem to have umpity-million unit frames nowadays. Having a common framework would have made things -so- much simplier. Everyone could have their own theme while having 1 singular place to optimize.
23:16.04Neronix`sleepDidn't he return to the community recently?
23:16.06FryGuy-was that AUF?
23:16.14ThraeAceUnitFrames, yeah.
23:16.20FryGuy-ya AceFry is built on that
23:16.30FryGuy-but looks like I'm going to have to ditch it and make some new ones :/
23:16.45FryGuy-it's like my last ace mod
23:16.51FryGuy-and it's kind of buggy sometimes too
23:16.56ThraeThey worked fine, well optimized, but now they're outdated with Ace2 and the new CreateFrame additions.
23:18.53Neronix`sleepdoes a texture need to be shown inside the frame it's parented to, or can it be shown away from it?
23:19.07Neronix`sleepif the former's true, I'm slightly doomed
23:21.37ThraeNo, the only relationship a texture has with its parent frame is that a) the parent is always the default relative anchor b) The child texture (a frame) can only be shown if the parent is shown.
23:22.13ThraeTextures also inherit other properties from its parent, like scale (the only way to scale a texture).
23:22.18Neronix`sleepYay, I'll only need 7 frames per unit instead of 12
23:23.02Neronix`sleepWait, I'm talking crap
23:24.15Kaeltendoes anyone actually use HasTranslation?
23:25.06Kaeltenanybody?
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23:25.58Azurewrathuhm, hi ;)
23:26.06Kaeltenhiya Azurewrath
23:28.51NightdewKaelten: Babble-Class-2.0 does
23:29.44NightdewKaelten: and bigwigs
23:29.50Azurewrathmhm, anyone mind telling me what RollTheBones in the SVN is or will be good for? Found no description nowhere :)
23:32.30Mikmai have no idea :)
23:33.27ThraeSome type of /roll mod, probably cataloges it or something.
23:33.55Azurewraththought of sth like that.. but who knows hehe
23:36.07Azurewrathmhm btw., any BigWigs dev around? :)
23:36.56HealthThey're everywhere
23:37.06Azurewrathhehe
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23:37.58Azurewrathjust thought about sth. like "ignore sync messages when you got the event yourself".. because we had some timer issues at the twins a few hours ago because of  bad chatlag
23:38.09Azurewraththe timer bars were starting all over again :)
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23:47.22Mikmawhee
23:47.31Mikma0.5l cider down and i'm getting drunk
23:47.46Mikmabtw i don't drink often
23:47.55Mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3585.jpg
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23:52.26Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1938.new#new
23:52.30Industrialhahahaha =D
23:52.56IndustrialI really did think that there wera at least two posts or new threwads with people with questions about tracking one addon
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