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00:00.01NeronixMikma: It works like DeuceCommander. It goes through the AceConsole registry and gives all the options tables it finds to dewdrop
00:00.03AndaliaCan anyone confirm this? I mean the time the program itself takes to load and not the login/reloadui time
00:00.18MikmaNeronix: hmm
00:00.28NeronixAndalia: Rename your interface folder and see?
00:00.33Mikmaanyway, i'm impressed of modmenu :)
00:03.48CIA-1103rabbit * r7742 10BigWigs/MC/Ragnaros.lua: BigWigs: Ragnaros: Emerges after 8 sons are dead or 90 seconds, whichever comes first.
00:04.09AndaliaNeronix: Good idea ^^ It seems like thats not the problem :) So there is another reason for it i don't know. But that are good news since i can still use embeds and don't need to change to one ace2 folder
00:07.22vhaarrTekkub: if you do MC, that raggy fix badly needs testing ^^
00:07.47Tekkubnot I, they moved MC to sundays
00:07.55vhaarrme neither
00:07.58vhaarr:P
00:10.12vhaarrTekkub: can I do self:GenericBossDeath(...) in a bossmod?
00:10.37Tekkubit's in the prototype, every module gets it
00:10.55vhaarrright
00:11.30CIA-1103thrae * r7743 10VzScript/VzScript.lua: VzScript - Added showing / hiding a button in combat. Parent other buttons to this button to make a bar that shows only in combat.
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00:21.17CIA-1103rabbit * r7744 10BigWigs/BWL/Chromaggus.lua: BigWigs: Chromaggus: Warns enrage soon at 23%.
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00:22.58vhaarrgod how I hate MSN
00:23.25vhaarrpeople use nicks like "lol I was out surfing earlier and I had pizza tonight" with lots of hearts and emotefaces in it
00:24.06Tem*gasp*
00:24.19TemAceGUI-2.0 just made a frame withouth throwing up on me
00:24.26Mikma:D
00:24.29vhaarr\o
00:24.34Tems/withouth/without/
00:24.46vhaarrTem: will it rock?
00:24.47Mikmawe're proud of you Tem :)
00:24.56Temvhaarr, I can only hope so
00:25.02vhaarrexcellent
00:25.10TemI have one weird bug that I don't understand
00:25.17Tembut I've got a workaround in place
00:25.30Temas soon as ckknight comes back from being ninja afk, he might be able to shed light on it
00:25.42vhaarrI can't wait for autogenerated AceConsole GUIs
00:26.05hyperChipmunkI can't wait for a listbox
00:26.12vhaarrwell, we have dewdrops, but .. yeah, it's not the same.
00:26.21hyperChipmunkno, that doesn't count
00:26.24hyperChipmunknot even close
00:26.26CIA-1103thrae * r7745 10/branches/CombLib-1.0/CombLib-1.0.lua: CombLib - More missed patterns. Yeah!
00:26.34TemI don't think AceOptions will use AceGUI
00:26.42vhaarrit won't
00:26.45hyperChipmunkoh, you mean the AceOptions gui
00:26.50vhaarryes
00:27.00TemAceGUI is more powerful than it needs
00:27.02CIA-1103thrae * r7746 10/branches/Combatotron/Combatotron.lua: Combatotron - Registering for new patterns.
00:27.49vhaarrTem: any specific model you're following for the API?
00:28.07Temyes
00:28.20vhaarrwhich one?
00:28.26Temthe one in my head
00:28.31vhaarr:P
00:28.33hyperChipmunkthat one sucks
00:28.39Temsays you
00:28.52vhaarrmy mother is here, she just said it too
00:29.31hyperChipmunksounds like she knows what she's talking about
00:30.38vhaarr:P
00:30.57vhaarrTem: seriously though, eclipse.org's SWT model rocks, for example
00:31.07Temheh
00:31.30Temthe model looks like the Old AceGUI's model
00:32.54vhaarroops, work in 5h
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00:37.57CIA-1103theondry * r7747 10FuBar_SnaFu/ (Changes.txt FuBar_SnaFu.toc SnaFu.lua): fubar_snafu : zomg! it's usable but *so* ugly. need to learn to format stuff. TimeLeft on tooltip, as well as (very subtle) notification of stone losings
00:41.27CIA-1103thrae * r7748 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - "SmoothBorder" added, changes alpha and size of both border and background to Tem's wishes.
00:41.39Temsweets!
00:41.40CIA-1103thrae * r7749 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipChatLocale_enEN.lua TinyTipOptions.lua): TinyTipOptions - Updated for change in TinyTip.
00:41.55Temthat now an option?
00:44.08ThraeTem: "Smooth Border and Background" in Appearances
00:44.17Temawesome
00:44.24Temwill update next time I reload
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00:47.08TupladMikma
00:47.15TupladCan Bartender2 create bars like Pubcrawl?
00:47.19Theondryare math functions (like rounding or arctangent etc) included in WoW's LUA or do I need to include a library for those?
00:47.34hyperChipmunkthe math lib is in there
00:47.39TheondryTHanks
00:47.45ThraeTheondry: http://www.lua.org/pil
00:47.55hyperChipmunkrounding would be math.floor(n+0.5)
00:47.56ThraeManual gives you all you need to know about what Lua can do.
00:48.10ThraeNot really very big, either.
00:49.14Theondrythrae: I was looking at wowwiki.com/lua_functions, and it says there's a library.  just didn't know if I had to include something like with ace2
00:49.22hyperChipmunkohhhhhh, the background doesn't jut out at the corners anymore
00:49.32hyperChipmunkthe math lib is in WoW
00:49.37MikmaTuplad: no
00:49.51hyperChipmunkmath, string, table are all I've ever used, and they're all in wow
00:49.58JoshBorkeTheondry: you can do math.<func> or whatever
00:51.22TupladMikma: will it ever be able to ,
00:51.37MikmaTuplad: no
00:51.51Tuplad:<
00:57.18gnorlishhC: acetab is throwing up on me the past couple days
00:57.30hyperChipmunkdid you update it today?
00:57.36hyperChipmunkI made a commit a few hours ago
00:57.43gnorlishi think i did.. one sec
00:57.51TheondryIs there a way to keep self:Print(stuff) from prepending the addon name to the beginning of messages?
00:58.04hyperChipmunkuse print(stuff)
00:58.15Theondry... oh
00:59.32gnorlishhC: is there a specific AceTab folder i should be checking out
00:59.46hyperChipmunkAce2/AceTab-2.0
00:59.57hyperChipmunkit should come in an external though
01:00.02hyperChipmunkdoesn't really matter
01:00.11gnorlishi grabbed the entirety of Ace2 including externals, lemme copy the error
01:00.53gnorlishAceTab-2.0.lua:144 attempt to compare number with nil
01:01.20gnorlishand then it references back to line 126
01:02.49hyperChipmunkalright
01:02.54hyperChipmunki'll look at it after wsg
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01:09.07ckknighthey all, back
01:09.49ckknightTekcub, ping
01:10.53Tekcubnani?
01:11.47ckknightTekcub, you pinged me earlier
01:12.01Tekcuborly?
01:12.27ckknight<Tekkub> ckk awake?
01:12.51ckknight16 hours ago
01:13.18Tekcubyou know my memory is bad
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01:27.44hyperChipmunkwoooo-bin
01:27.48hyperChipmunkwoooo-bin
01:28.26Wobinheeepurrrrrr-chupmink
01:28.55WobinCouldn't afford front row seats? =)
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01:29.50hyperChipmunkthis is so I can hide behind the fat guy in row 2
01:32.41hyperChipmunkgnorlish: what frame are you getting that error in?
01:33.11ckknightheeper?
01:33.25ckknightand chupmink?
01:33.44Mikma:D
01:35.40gnorlishsec
01:36.16gnorlishbugsack is grabbing it, lemme disable
01:36.47hyperChipmunkthe value gets set to 0 right after I hook the frame
01:37.06hyperChipmunkit oughtn't be nil ever
01:38.05gnorlishit gets thrown up to the blizz error frame upon an attempt to tab-complete
01:38.32hyperChipmunktab complete where, though?
01:38.42hyperChipmunkwhat frame are you pressing TAB in
01:38.42gnorlisha /w
01:38.55hyperChipmunkso the main editbox
01:38.57gnorlishcorrect
01:39.08hyperChipmunktype /script print(this:GetName())
01:39.17hyperChipmunkin the same frame
01:39.42gnorlishi use confab
01:39.47gnorlishit's ConfabEditBox
01:43.45TupladMikma: BT2 is porn!!
01:44.51MikmaTuplad: how come?
01:45.04TemWobin, hey
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01:45.16Wobin'lo Tem
01:45.31TemWobin, what are the chances you can update FuXPFu for FuBar-2.0 this weekend?
01:45.45Wobinpretty high I guess =)
01:45.49Temsweets
01:45.52TemI can't live without it
01:45.57Tembut it breaks in 2.0
01:49.29ckknightWobin, should be easy.
01:49.30Wobinaye =)
01:49.33ckknightessentially the same API
01:49.40WobinI'm thinking of fiddling with it a bit though =)
01:49.48ckknightokay
01:52.05TupladMikmaTuplad: how come?
01:52.08Tupladthe no border thing ;>
01:52.48JoshBorkeblasted, my silly rosterLib isn't working so well
01:56.00MikmaTuplad: well it's just a copy of copy ;)
02:08.27JoshBorkewoohoo! healthmon lives!
02:08.47Temhealthmon?
02:09.03Temwhy can't I help but think that's a troll diatary speciallist?
02:09.09hasteugh, I'm addicted to a sound
02:09.11hastekyo~
02:09.21JoshBorkesec, goblin packs in BWL
02:09.24hasteit just sounds.. too jute
02:11.55JoshBorkeTem: http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot081106221047by1.jpg
02:11.57JoshBorkethe graph looking things
02:12.29JoshBorkekinda hard to see at that scale :-/
02:13.13TemJoshBorke, what's it for?
02:13.39JoshBorkeTem: to track the health/DTPS/HTPS of a target
02:13.44JoshBorkeor multiple as the case is
02:13.46Temvery cool
02:14.13JoshBorkeit really shows when the tanks are getting way overhealed
02:15.25kergothhehe, mobhealth bug.  click on this mob once, shows fine. click on it again, shows 1.#IND for its health
02:17.43Mikmammkay now
02:19.00TemI see skies of blue and clouds of white
02:19.07Temthe bright blessed day
02:19.13Temthe dark, sacred night
02:19.18Tem... and I think to myself
02:19.23TemWhat I Wonderful World
02:19.28Tems/I/a/
02:19.36TemLouie Armstrong is the man
02:20.22ckknightyou know what I don't get? Why do people have such a hard time with bullies?
02:21.21Mikmabecause they are weaker and can't defend theirselves against a bullie / his/her "gang"
02:21.26Mikmaamirite?
02:21.52ckknightnerds.
02:22.12ckknightI only had issues once, in 9th grade, when these two douches kept knocking the books out of my hand
02:22.12Mikmathat's a interesting thing actually
02:22.42ckknightso one day, in front of a teacher, I pushed one against the wall forcefully and asked him why he was doing it
02:22.43ThraeIt's human nature to be afraid of bullies, ckknight. Part of our survival instinct is to induce fear in us when coming around someone bigger and stronger then us. Just like how you get the sense of fear when around fire. How much fear response you get depends on how much you can consciously repress your survival instinct.
02:22.47hyperChipmunkhttp://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3152830
02:22.50ckknightnever bothered me after that
02:22.55Mikmahaha
02:22.57Mikmayou owned that kid
02:23.06Wobinckknight: Once people learn to ignore them, they go away
02:23.10ckknightI totally didn't get in trouble
02:23.33WobinActually, I found it much better to be utterly condescending to them. They can't handle it =)
02:23.42ckknightbut yea, I royally owned him
02:23.49ckknightWobin, I was all of 13 :-P
02:24.12Wobinckknight: yeah =) I used to be bullied also, cause I was small
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02:24.16Mikmahuh?
02:24.26Mikmahow young do you start schools in there? O_o
02:24.38ckknightMikma, in where?
02:24.44Mikmawhen i was at 9th grade i was 15 and driving with my moped
02:24.52Mikmackknight: where ever you might live :)
02:24.56Wobinbut once I stopped responding to the taunts and just continued on with conversation with my friends as if nothing was said, they eventually stopped
02:25.07ckknightMikma, I was 5 when I started kindergarten :-P
02:25.18ckknight13 was 9th grade (first year of high school)
02:25.29Mikmackknight: hmm
02:25.34WobinIf you have middle school
02:25.40Wobinotherwise third year of highschool
02:25.56Mikmawell, we start our schools at the age of 7
02:26.25Mikmanormal school is classes 1-9, then we go to some school which name in english i can't remember
02:26.40ckknightMikma, where you live?
02:26.46MikmaFinland
02:26.50ckknightah, okay
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02:27.15Valdeckhi all
02:27.33Mikmaok now i'll update all my aced addons and see does the acehook error go away
02:27.37Valdeckanyone around who might be able to answer a few questions?
02:27.38Mikmathat includes Bartender2 :D
02:28.07ckknightMikma, do you have bugsack?
02:28.16ckknightcause, I'd rather find the error.
02:28.17JoshBorkeValdeck: go ahead and ask
02:28.26ckknightValdeck, don't ask to ask, just ask
02:28.37Mikmackknight: the interesting issue is i had a problem with it yesterday. when i disabled bugsack/buggrabber the acehook error was gone.
02:28.39ckknightalternatively, zip up what you have an email it to me, Mikma
02:28.40ValdeckI am having a issue with SVN, I keep getting a error 400: Bad request
02:28.57Mikmawell, today i updated some addons and the error is back without Bug*
02:28.57JoshBorkewhat is the URL you are using?
02:28.58Wobin<PROTECTED>
02:29.01Valdecktried it with both smartsvn and the tortise one
02:29.13Wobinyou'll need http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/AddonName
02:29.20Valdeckumm... hang on I will get it. I can connect to it
02:29.24ValdeckI just cant download
02:29.27hyperChipmunkgnorlish: I'll have to look at that as a special case
02:29.29Valdeckcheckout rather
02:29.44Mikmackknight: http://wow.reaktio.net/untitled.txt this is from yesterday
02:29.48ckknightwhat url are you using, Valdeck
02:30.01Mikmai'll just download Bug* now and see what it pops up now
02:30.09Valdeckand the addon I want isnt int the root/trunk/ section... http://svn.wowace.com/root
02:30.22ckknightno, Valdeck
02:30.44Valdecki figured it was user error on my end :)
02:31.14ckknight90% of all errors occur between the user and the keyboard
02:31.30Valdeckshould I be using like http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/addon
02:31.47ckknightyes
02:31.52Valdeckwell thats a problem
02:31.57ThraeValdeck: What addon are you looking for?
02:31.58Valdeckthe one I want isnt in /root/trunk
02:32.31Valdeckotravi_unitframs
02:32.32Valdeckframes
02:32.35ThraeUnstable addons not yet released are usually kept in /root/branches
02:32.39Mikmackknight: we use a saying here that "the *something* (ie. slowest component) is between the chair and keyboard" :D
02:32.52Valdeckas well as cooldown count and cast bar
02:33.19Mikmatake otravi_unitframes from /root/branches
02:33.27ThraeValdeck: Those are in trunk. You just need to scroll down, since it's sorted by character code, where A is higher then a.
02:33.35Valdeckoh really?
02:33.44ThraeValdeck: You should use a SVN Client like TortoiseSVN.
02:33.48ValdeckI am
02:34.00ValdeckI mean, I can connect to the SVN
02:34.10ValdeckI can browse all three sections
02:34.12ThraeI know otravi_castingbar is in trunk.
02:34.13ValdeckI just cant check out
02:34.18Valdeckcastingbar is
02:34.23TupladValdeck: from ui.worldofwar ?
02:34.24Valdeckbut not unitframe or count
02:34.31Valdeckno
02:34.34Tupladk
02:34.37Valdeckwait yea
02:34.37ThraeThey're probably in branches then
02:34.46ValdeckI know they are, I am staring at them :)
02:34.48Tupladhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/otravi_CastingBar/
02:34.59Mikmaag_UnitFrames in /root/trunk or otravi_unitframes in /root/branches
02:35.02ValdeckI just get error 400 when i try to download
02:35.07Valdeckrather checkout
02:35.19Tuplad-_-
02:35.29Tupladmeh
02:35.35Tupladit's time for me to have a wonderful thing called sleep
02:35.42Valdecknight :)
02:35.56hyperChipmunkgnorlish: give me a link to whatever that thing you use is
02:35.56Tuplad~night
02:35.58purlG'night tuplad, get out of here.
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02:36.49Mikmackknight: this is a fresh one: http://wow.reaktio.net/untitled2.txt
02:37.29Mikmaand this one does not say anything about bartender, like wow's default error does ^^
02:37.33Valdeckhmm.. I am still getting the error
02:37.43Valdeckbut only on checkout
02:37.53Mikmackknight: oh there is another one
02:38.49ckknightMikma, can you please zip up your addons? I want to reproduce and do my own tests
02:38.56ckknightzip up the ones you have enabled
02:39.06Wobinhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/otravi_UnitFrames/
02:39.07Mikmahmm yeah sure, just a moment. you need SV's too?
02:39.08Wobin?
02:39.16ckknightMikma, I'm gonna say no
02:39.26ckknightbtw untitled2.txt is 404
02:39.36Mikmayeah it is i can't upload it for some reason
02:39.48Mikma(got a new adsl modem today)
02:39.57Mikmaok now it's there
02:40.07Mikmaand soon there will be a untitled3.txt
02:40.17Mikmadone, zipping ->
02:40.47JoshBorkei really like BigWigs
02:40.52ckknightsend to ckknight at gmail
02:40.57Valdeckbah... still getting the Bad Reques Error
02:41.02ValdeckRequest rather
02:41.15Wobinthe svn is a little slow atm
02:41.19Kamerilyeah, i was getting that "Attempt to modify read-only class" in AceHooks2.0 earlier, i updated my libs and it went away though
02:41.26ckknightValdeck, what's the full url you're dealing with?
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02:41.36ValdeckI have tried 4
02:41.45ckknightKameril, right, it's something going astray in-between AceOO and AceLibrary
02:41.54ckknightI'm gonna get to the root of the problem
02:41.56ckknighthopefully
02:41.59ckknightcause it's a bad one.
02:44.00Valdeck1) http://svn.wowace.com/root 2) http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/otravi_unitframes/otravi 3)\
02:44.14Valdeck3) http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/otravi_UnitFrames
02:44.27WobinThe third should work
02:44.27Valdecktried all three, get the same error 400: Bad Request on all of them
02:44.34CIA-1103tardmrr * r7750 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/ (12 files): AceGUI-2.0: 90% of the back-end complete.
02:44.40Mikmathe third one is oUF1
02:44.43Wobinwhat are you actually doing?
02:44.46Mikmathe one in branches is oUF2
02:44.48Valdeckwhat port does it run on?
02:44.54ckknightTem, pimpness
02:44.58MikmaTem: \o/
02:45.07Wobinlike what steps are you taking?
02:45.14Mikmalet's do a happy dance /o/ _o_ \o\
02:45.18Valdecki am using smartsvn and the tortis svn client
02:45.59Valdeckso I should use http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/oUF1?
02:46.01Mikmackknight: http://wow.reaktio.net/Mikma.zip .. it will extract the Interface folder
02:46.10Wobiner no
02:46.14Mikmaandsorry about the size, 3.5MB :(
02:46.20Mikmacan't understand what takes so much space in there
02:46.24WobinMikma is saying it's otravi_UnitFrames version 1
02:46.25ckknightgreat
02:46.33MikmaWobin: hmm
02:46.40Valdeckah, I am trying to get the version 2.0 alphas
02:46.44Wobinthe pathname is still the same
02:46.44MikmaWobin: or has haste trunked ouf2 yet?
02:46.49Wobinno idea
02:46.54Valdeckhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/otravi_UnitFrames/otravi/
02:46.57Mikmalet's have a look
02:46.59hasteI haven't
02:46.59Valdeckis from haste post
02:47.03Mikmathere
02:47.07Mikmadidn't even have to look :D
02:47.24Valdeckbut that address dosnt work
02:47.29Valdeckthey ALL give me the same error
02:47.35hasteand the trunk version is not recommended to use
02:47.43haste(trunk version = shit :----D)
02:47.48Wobincan you browse to that link in your webbrowser?
02:47.51ValdeckI can connect to the SVN :D I just cant check out
02:47.55Valdeckyea I can
02:48.04Valdeckbut I cant manual download, I dont know his dependancies
02:48.09Valdeckhey haste
02:48.26Valdeckdoes anyone know what port numbers these clients use?
02:48.40Mikmahmm google knows
02:48.48hasteCauses svnserve to run in daemon mode. svnserve backgrounds itself and accepts and serves TCP/IP connections on the svn port (3690, by default).
02:48.50Mikma~wiki SVN
02:48.51hastefirst hit on google
02:49.07Thrae~google svn port
02:49.30WobinIt shouldn't be an issue =P
02:49.34Wobinsince it's using http?
02:49.37Valdeckah good point
02:50.02Valdeck*shrug* I full admit I have no idea why or how svn works just going off of what the wiki page gave me
02:50.20Valdeckall I know is no matter what client I use I get error: 400 bad request when I try to check out
02:50.31Valdeckbut I can browse the SVN database or whatever its called as a whole
02:50.54hastedownload the commandline verison ;)
02:51.01Wobinthe svn commandline one maybe?
02:51.16hasteit's easy! svn co <path>
02:51.16Valdeckhmmm I will try that
02:51.21Valdecklol now let me look back in my history for the wiki page :D
02:51.24CIA-1103tardmrr * r7751 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/ (9 files): AceGUI-2.0: Whoops! Forgot to set svn:keywords on the files.
02:51.49hasteAceGUI-2.0, hmm
02:51.49Tekcub| 10.4.1 400 Bad Request
02:51.50Tekcub|
02:51.50Tekcub|    The request could not be understood by the server due to malformed
02:51.50Tekcub|    syntax. The client SHOULD NOT repeat the request without
02:51.50Tekcub|    modifications.
02:51.51Valdeckyou mean svn binaries?
02:51.55Tekcubas helpful as that is...
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02:53.21Valdeckhmm... lots of download files
02:54.32Valdeckok i got it... i think let me try to use it
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02:54.45Temhaste, don't get too excited
02:54.52Temhaste, http://pastebin.ca/127255 is about all it can do right now
02:55.01MikmaTem: too late i think he wet his shorts already
02:55.03Tem(well, that doesn't show templates or custom classes, but meh)
02:55.12hasteTem: hehe
02:55.31Kamerilckknight, AceComm supports booleans correct? when I send a false everything comes back nil, doesn't seem to de-serialize it properly
02:55.35Tekcubis ToFu on the SVN?
02:55.46ckknightKameril, odd. it should work.
02:55.48TheondryIs there an easier way to put strings together other than "string.format("%s%s%s", string1, string2, string3)"?
02:55.51ThraeTem: Does AceGUI2 do any neat things that it should work with Etch-A-Sketch?
02:55.58Tekcubit is... someone hardcode in those times from the thread :)
02:56.00ckknightTheondry, string1 .. string2 .. string3
02:56.08TheondryThanks, ckk
02:56.08TemThrae, that's up to EAS's author
02:56.26ckknightKameril, I'll test it later
02:56.28KamerilMyAddon:SendCommMessage("CUSTOM", "TestChan", "ReceiveBar", 50) works but MyAddon:SendCommMessage("CUSTOM", "TestChan", "ReceiveBar", 50, false) everything comes back nil
02:56.31Tekcubtable.concat({string1, string2, string3}, "")
02:56.36Tekcub*snicker*
02:56.38ThraeTheondry: I suggest using string.format unless you're just concatonating two strings together.
02:56.46Tekcubjust don't go wasting memory on the table declarations
02:57.03ckknightTekcub, *shudder*
02:57.18ckknightKameril, okay.
02:57.22TekcubThrae, it's okey to do mass concats if they're all one operation, ask clad/kery on that one
02:57.25ckknightKameril, make a testcase for me, please?
02:57.44Tekcubit's a = b..c; a = a..d; a = a..e that's bad
02:57.54TheondryThrae: what I had was string.format ("%s:%s", minutes, seconds)
02:58.06ThraeTekcub: Really? Even with string literals?
02:58.11Tekcubcause each one of those strings needs to be declared into memory
02:58.22Tekcubif they don't already exist...
02:58.38Tekcublook at it like this...
02:58.57Tekcuba = "a".."b"; a = a.."c"; a = a.."d"
02:58.59Valdeckodd...
02:59.02ValdeckI get the same error
02:59.07Valdeckerror= 400
02:59.11Tekcubthat creates "ab", "abc" and "abcd"
02:59.14ValdeckWell I have to run, I will work on it when I get back
02:59.29Tekcuba = "a".."b".."c".."d" -- this creates only "abcd"
02:59.33Neronix`sleepnight
02:59.39ThraeI remember explicitly reading on the Lua optimization wiki that "foo" .. "bar" .. "far" .. "boo" creates 3 new strings on the string pol
02:59.45Thraes/pol/pool/
02:59.58ckknightThrae, that's not true for 5.0+
03:00.01Tekcubonly three?
03:00.02ckknightmaybe for 4.x
03:00.13TekcubI see 4 literals there :)
03:00.19Temkergoth, yay for psudo-multiple inheritance via Mixins!
03:00.46Tekcuboh, 3 concats tho, I see what you're saying
03:00.55ThraeWait, maybe I miscounted... "foo" + "bar" = "foobar" + "far" = "foobarfar" + "boo" = "foobarfarboo"...yeah, three NEW strings
03:01.00Tekcub"foobar" "foobarfar" and "foobarfarboo"
03:01.35ThraeHmmm I know the wiki is a little outdated, but this is just for literal strings plucked from the pool
03:01.40Tekcubclad and kergy profiled it all out and said they're okey if it's all one op, I trust dems :)
03:02.53ThraeHmmm maybe you're right, as a referenced string as a variable is still on the string pool same as a literal
03:03.03Neronix`sleepThree?
03:03.08Tekcub*ponder*
03:03.27Neronix`sleepI was told that something like "foo" .. "bar" .. "far" .. "boo" on the one line is doen as one big concat operation
03:03.31TekcubI have this sudden urge to optomize ToFu's time tables down into something resembing a PT set...
03:03.45ThraeNeronix`sleep: I was going by what the Lua optimization wiki said
03:03.47ckknightit is
03:03.48ckknightin 5.0
03:03.49ThraeGuess it's outdated
03:04.24ckknightkeep in mind that .. should only be used when both things are strings
03:04.27TheondryDoes the buffindex for GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft(buffindex) mean something different than what I expect?  if I have one buff on, shouldn't getplayerbufftimeleft(1) give me the number of seconds left on that buff?  (I try using the index found via the "standard" means, and I get a time back of zero.)
03:04.30ckknightotherwise format is almost always better
03:04.33Neronix`sleepAgreed
03:04.42Neronix`sleepMikk and I tested the other day
03:05.00Thraeckknight: Not that I don't believe you, just want to make sure :D
03:05.00Neronix`sleepthe behind-the-scenes tonumber adds a ton of overhead
03:05.34Tekcubwho wrote ToFu anyway?
03:05.49ckknightKemayo, afaik
03:05.54ckknightMikma, I don't get an error
03:05.59Tekcub(s)he around somewhere?
03:06.15Mikmackknight: gah, i really don't wan't to delete my WTF :P
03:06.19TekcubI wanna suggest a bigtime memory optomization :)
03:06.42ckknightKemayo, Tekcub wants you.
03:07.02Tekcuboh hey look at that
03:07.03ckknightMikma, you on Mac/Linux?
03:07.06Kamerili thought format is much slower that a concat though? about 8x slower, regardless of how many concats you're doing
03:07.10Mikmackknight: yes, mac
03:07.10Tekcubhere Kemayo Kemayo Kemayo Kemayo
03:07.16ckknightMikma, ah
03:07.16TemMikma, is on a peice of fruit
03:07.20ckknightthat makes sense.
03:07.27ckknightthe ordering is fucked for you
03:07.28Tekcubfruity fucker
03:07.41ckknightKameril, ping
03:08.18ckknightyou get the AceHook error?
03:09.19Kameriluntil i updated my libs, i had Ace2 libs in my addon and in FuBar2.0, the ones in my addon were outdated, once i updated them the error was gone
03:09.45Mikmayeah and that's now what i'll try doing also
03:10.26eternally777Can someone briefly skim this function and tell me if it looks like it should work properly, specifically the "for" statement on line 9... http://ace.pastey.net/203
03:11.21kergothNeronix`sleep: reseeting the mobhealth cache/db enables saving data.  looks like a bug there.  dunno if you saw the bug i reported earlier
03:12.01ckknighteternally777, for k,v in table do ... end is deprecated in favor of for k,v in pairs(table) do ... end
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03:12.58eternally777ty
03:13.49Thrae#lua is always a wealth of information.
03:14.02Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1861.msg34996.html#msg34996 ..
03:14.09Mikmathis one gave me a good laugh
03:14.41Neronix`sleepkergoth: Fixing
03:14.53ThraeI have some channels where I'm almost always right, but not in #lua. Heh.
03:14.54CIA-1103tardmrr * r7752 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/ (AceGUI-2.0.lua AceGUIBase-2.0.lua AceGUITexture-2.0.lua): AceGUI-2.0: Texture support is added but untested.
03:15.23CIA-1103neronix * r7753 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua: MobHealth3 - Resetting the cache/DB doesn't make it appear that saving is turned on
03:15.50kergothNeronix`sleep: the other bug, i targeted a mob, looked fine. targeted a second, looked fine. targeted the first again, and it showed 1.#IND, then targeting the second again, also showed 1.#IND
03:16.05kergothNeronix`sleep: thanks for the fix
03:16.05CIA-1103tardmrr * r7754 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/AceGUITexture-2.0.lua: AceGUI-2.0: Adding svn:keywords to new file.
03:16.18Neronix`sleepWhat kind of mobs?
03:16.46Mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5130-Satellite.html
03:16.48Mikmawhopee
03:16.54Mikmafrom out favorite author!
03:17.15Wobineach city will have vendors that buy and sell goods, including each race's mount animal--in the case of the Draenei, the "elekk" (a creature that bears more than a passing resemblance to a caparisoned war elephant), and in the case of the Blood Elves, the cockatrice.
03:17.38Wobinhttp://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraftexp1/news.html?sid=6155696&tag=topslot;action;1
03:17.57ckknightMikma, meh, it's only got a 3/5
03:18.27ckknightwhat's a cockatrice look like?
03:18.39JoshBorkehaha! blood elves get cockatrice
03:19.01Temckknight, ask uncle google
03:19.07Temhttp://images.google.com/images?q=cockatrice&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images
03:19.15ckknightseems to be a rooster dealy
03:19.19Mikmaholy mother
03:19.23Wobinyeah
03:19.25Mikmathat's one ugly motherfucer
03:19.35Wobina cockatrice is hatched from a rooster's egg on the top of a dungpile
03:19.44ckknightgood times
03:19.44Wobinand it's gaze can paralyse
03:19.48ckknightits
03:19.57Wobinyeah =P
03:20.08Wobinsorry, random apostraphe
03:20.17hyperChipmunkhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Cockatrice.gif
03:20.19Wobins/apos/catas/
03:20.21eternally777wobin: it's ok
03:21.46Wobinroflroflrofl
03:21.49WobinRETCON
03:21.50Wobina gigantic temple bathed in a red, sorcerous light that radiates from the fingers of elf sorcerers, who must constantly focus on keeping a prisoner of the Naaru race (a line of insubstantial beings that consist almost entirely of light and energy) enslaved so that Blood Elves can force the divine essence of paladins into their own race.
03:22.00JoshBorkewhoa, the town sounds cool
03:22.03Wobin*facepalm*
03:22.35ckknighthehe.
03:22.38Kamerilckknight, http://www.pastey.net/204 < in AceComm neither boolean is being received correctly
03:22.42ckknightso that's how they're stealing the light.
03:23.27Neronix`sleepkergoth: What kind of mobs were you looking at and what unit frames were you using?
03:23.33ckknightWobin, what's wrong with retcons?
03:24.17WobinIt shows bad planning =)
03:24.23ckknightwhatever.
03:24.30kergothNeronix`sleep: they were the guards of lord alexi in scholo after fighting them and wiping and rezing, with aguf
03:24.34ckknightwait, how is that necessarily a retcon anyway?
03:24.50Neronix`sleephumanoids?
03:24.52Wobinokay, not necessarily a retcon
03:25.13ckknightit's just not a fact previously revealed
03:25.36WobinIt's a remarkably awkward method =P
03:25.50ckknightWobin, keeping a prisoner?
03:25.56WobinI would have preferred a 'dark paladin' solution
03:25.59kergothNeronix`sleep: undead
03:26.16Neronix`sleephmm
03:26.17WobinAnd the choice of paladins for bloodelves was only recent
03:26.46ckknightdark paladin? nah
03:26.47Neronix`sleepI'll look into it in the morning, thanks
03:26.52kergoththanks
03:26.57ckknightthat could be made into a whole new class later
03:27.10WobinI'd rather the 'pally power' coming from a dark source as a point of use
03:27.13Neronix`sleepAnd what is 1.#IND?
03:27.17Wobinif you're going for the whole OMG EBIL
03:27.17ckknightI like the idea of them having to steal the pallies' powers
03:27.26ckknightebil?
03:27.33WobinEVIL, but more emo
03:27.38ckknightBlood elves aren't evil
03:27.44ckknightthey're just crack addicts.
03:27.49Mikmaemo evil :D
03:27.55WobinBlame the sin, not the sinner? =P
03:28.34ckknightI think Pallies on Horde is a good idea, though
03:28.35Wobin'enslave' isn't a very 'goody two shoes' sort of term =)
03:28.43ckknightWobin, so?
03:28.49Wobinand 'force'
03:28.55Wobinso they're 'ebil' =P
03:28.57ckknightif you were addicted to crack, wouldn't you do crazy stuff?
03:29.01ckknightlike sell your body?
03:29.10WobinThat doesn't mean I'm not a bad person =P
03:29.17ckknightwhatever
03:29.21ckknightgood and evil are relative
03:29.27WobinIf I go and kill people for money, I am, by definition, 'bad' =P
03:29.27ckknightlet's say this instead
03:29.31ckknightif you were diabetic
03:29.34Mikmayou can get cash by selling your body while using crack? damnit!
03:29.37ckknightand you needed insulin
03:29.42ckknight_to live_
03:29.47ckknightwhat would you do to get it?
03:29.57WobinAnd I went and subjugated a race, to drain them of insulin...
03:30.02WobinAnd locked them up
03:30.07Wobinand put taps into them
03:30.08ckknightright.
03:30.15WobinOf course I'm not bad
03:30.18WobinI'm just misunderstood
03:30.23Neronix`sleepIs 1.#IND the result of dividing by 0?
03:30.27ckknightsame with the BE's
03:30.28ckknightNeronix`sleep, 0/0
03:30.34Neronix`sleepAh
03:30.34WobinThe enslaved race deserved everything they got, since they had all that precious insulin
03:30.43ckknightrighto.
03:30.43Neronix`sleepHelps a lot, thanks
03:30.44gnorlishinsulin hoarders must die
03:30.53ckknightright.
03:31.03WobinSorry, ckknight =) You're too asocial to argue ethics with =)
03:31.05Neronix`sleepkergoth: did you have stable max on?
03:31.05ckknightit was _their_ fault they didn't share
03:31.28WobinCommunism!
03:31.31WobinIt's the People's Insulin!
03:31.31ckknightWobin, sorry, I see everything as relative, with no defining good or evil qualities
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03:31.53WobinSo if I have no money, I'm in the right to rob you for yours
03:32.05Wobinsince the relative richness between us is so different
03:32.08ckknightsorry, I'm a Libertarian
03:32.20ThraeBlood Elves enslaving the Light so they can use it makes perfect sense to me -- they're addicted to magic, and Light is one they haven't had for a long time.
03:32.32ckknightyea
03:32.48WobinAlthough... you know what would be cool?
03:32.57WobinIf the alliance does a raid on the BE city
03:32.57ckknightice?
03:33.04ckknighthehe, that'd be neat
03:33.07Wobinand kills the 'containing sorcerers'
03:33.15hyperChipmunkall the belfaladins DIE
03:33.16Wobinand all of a sudden, the BE pallies lose all spells =)
03:34.09hyperChipmunkyou mean DIE
03:34.11CIA-1103neronix * r7755 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua: MobHealth3 - Maybe fixed bug where 1.#IND may show up when using stable max
03:34.22WobinWell they're just channeling the power
03:34.22Neronix`sleepkergoth: Try that
03:34.34hyperChipmunkthey'd die from shock
03:34.47WobinMaybe if they got sucked backwards through the conduit from the power vaccuum
03:34.54Neronix`sleepWhat if we raid the Draenei city and kill whatever their source of shammy power is?
03:34.58Neronix`sleepThey would all DIE
03:35.02Neronix`sleepfrom (frost) shock
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03:35.24Mikmathere, updating like 30 addons from svn
03:35.24hyperChipmunkshamans take power from the earth
03:35.25Wobinso all the pallies would be like... sucked through a metaphysical pinprick hole like explosive decompression in space
03:35.26ThraeDraenis don't have to do anything special to be Shamans, they're already Nature-oriented
03:35.27ZerylHello all
03:36.06Mikmalet's see what happens to the error
03:36.50ThraeYou have to have Shadow, Earth, and Animal worship  in your culture to become a Shaman.
03:36.58ckknightShadow?
03:37.10gnorlish~emulate ckknight
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03:37.12hyperChipmunkdeadthings
03:37.17ckknight~beer
03:37.18purlACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer))
03:37.25ThraeYeah, Shamans became Warlocks. Or was it the other way around? They're related.
03:37.26ckknightoh, ancestor reverence?
03:37.34ckknightThrae, first is right
03:38.50ZerylHey sorry to ask, but in BigWigs, the bossblock stuff, it comes "on" by default.  What do they exactly do?
03:39.09Wobinprevents ctraid from spamming you
03:39.10Tekcubblock chat
03:39.18Wobiner ctboss mods etc
03:39.20JoshBorkesince someone brought up bigwigs, where are my chromaggus breath timers? :-(
03:39.40Zerylso if I weren't running ctraid still, it would just block the ctmessages?
03:40.40Tekcubhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taijutsu_(Naruto)#Sennen_Goroshi_.28One_Thousand_Years_of_Death.29
03:40.44Tekcub^^
03:40.51Mikmawe need a check in fubar that it don't work with ctra addons :D
03:41.29MikmaTekcub: Hooh. nice move
03:41.36Tekcubyou like?
03:41.53ZerylI wish I didn't still need CT_Raid, but oRA has too many things that need to be installed, and SVN doesn't seem to be the most user friendly for downloading more than one thing at a time (at least I couldn't find a way)
03:42.12Mikmawell who doesn't
03:42.29TekcuboRA has a lot less than CTRA does, you just don't like the file structure
03:42.47ThraeZeryl: If you really don't want to use SVN, Devla has a pack on ui.worldofwar.net.
03:42.58Zeryllol, I don't mind multiple downloads, I know the long-term benefits, I just don't want the hundred svn downloads -- Thrae:  Thanks!
03:43.05ThraeBut I'd just learn SVN. Do you know how annoying it is to update multiple addons?
03:43.09Tekcuboh yea, good ol Devla, ALT-Raid right?
03:43.11ZerylI'm sure it is
03:43.26ThraeWith SVN you just select all your SVN addons and do "SVN Update" and BAM! Done.
03:43.29ZerylI know after the inital check-out, it's easy, but is there a way to do a multi check-out?
03:43.37TekcubZ: it's only a dozen or so, and the checkouts are a onetime thing
03:43.43gnorlishthrae: i'm still getting a stack overflow problem with ttip
03:43.45Tekcubafter that it's updating which is uber-simple
03:43.51ThraeWith SmartSVN, yes. With Tortoise, no, it's focused on folders/directories.
03:44.32ZerylI'll tkae a look at smartsvn, hadn't seen that one.  I"ll convert tonight then.  Not like I use CT for much anymore
03:44.58TekcubI think I convinced Cide to slip the "looting tattle" into CTRA :)
03:45.06hasteTekcub: we are changing that tho'
03:45.22ThraeWill oRA2 plan to use AceComm or at least ChatThrottleLib?
03:45.22Tekcubhaste, using BigWig's design aren't ya?
03:45.22Zerylhaha, is there a way to see that in the API?  I thought that was always not able to be done because of no api function
03:45.22hasteTekcub: oRA2 is basicly, participant, leader and optional :p
03:45.29hasteTekcub: yeh, damn people are so lazy
03:45.51TekcubI know, let em bitch, deleting modules is easy enough too :)
03:45.59Tekcubhow did ammo put it....
03:46.10Tekcub"I converted my whole guild to BigWigs..."
03:46.19Tekcub"the feedback was..."
03:46.45ZerylI've got about 10 already jsut from seeing the new announces and the lack of them from ct_raid
03:46.47Mikmayes? yes? tell us!
03:46.49Tekcub" 'kickass', 'this is sweet', 'holy shit', 'I hate you Ammo'"
03:47.03Tekcubthe "I hate you" was looking at Warmup :)
03:47.04ThraeHehe
03:47.15ThraeHow is CT_BossMod compared to BW nowadays?
03:47.24hastethe majority of my guild uses Bigwigs also ;)
03:47.26ThraeI'm not even a high enough level to raid yet.
03:47.29MikmaThrae: do a test and tell us :D
03:47.31TekcubI fogot to ask him if he pointed out that Warmup's dev is the same one that started BW...
03:47.55Mikmawarmup's dev is a noob!
03:47.57Zerylso i'm guessing the more that use it, the better?
03:48.48TekcubZ, mostly, tho the combat log range thing we found out about might minimize that :)
03:48.54hasteMikma: yeh, just like that otravi guy
03:49.01Tekcubsince syncs won't be needed as much
03:49.04Mikmahaste: yeah, he's a noob too!
03:49.05Zerylfound a way to increase it?!
03:49.20Tekcubit's already in BW, go look at the plugins menu
03:49.23ThraeZeryl: http://ace.pastebin.ca/125643
03:49.28ZerylI saw that, but I didn't think it would work ;)
03:49.35Mikmaah, combat log increase <3
03:49.37ThraeTekcub: Have any ideas for ProximityLib?
03:49.39Mikmai simply love it
03:49.49Tekcubwhat about prox?
03:50.01Zeryloh, NICE
03:50.02Mikmaeliminates the need of having BW2 on mt1
03:50.13TekcubMik: you've confirmed it works?
03:50.16Zerylthat's great, surprised it wasn't found earlier
03:50.27ThraeWell, upping the Combat Log range breaks it for useful raiding mods like Squishy
03:50.34MikmaTekcub: well atleast i get all the damn bombs and other crap when playing instances
03:50.43JoshBorkewhat does Di mean in perfect raid?
03:50.45Tekcubonly if you change friendly's range Thrae
03:50.45JoshBorkecurse?
03:50.48Mikmai think there ain't a event that i have missed since i increased the ranges
03:51.02TekcubI didn't put friendlies into BW's options, maia put it into squishy
03:51.10ThraeActually "break it" isn't the best term
03:51.20TekcubJB, Disease
03:51.27ThraeTekcub: Does ProximityLib ONLY check for FRIENDLYPLAYER and PARTY events?
03:51.30TekcubCurse should be Cu
03:51.44JoshBorkeDisease!
03:51.46Tekcubyes Thrae
03:51.49TemDi is Disease
03:51.52ThraeAhhh, then it's all roses.
03:51.56JoshBorkethanks :-)
03:52.10TekcubProx is for maintaining range numbers for your party/raid, that's all
03:52.18Tekcubit don't care about anyone else
03:52.38ThraeWell CREATURE and HOSTILEPLAYER events often fire for party and raid members, didn't know how thorough you were.
03:53.08Theondry_Is there anything out there that explains (in simplistic fashion) how to make GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft work?  I have code that looks like it should work, but it always throws a time left of "nil", or zero.
03:53.22Tekcubyea but at what range?  I would ASSUME that those events range is based off the unit causing them
03:53.27Tekcubbut I might be wrong
03:53.45Tekcubit may be the victim from which the events fire
03:54.00Tekcubsomeone go find a mob that ranges and test!
03:54.06ThraeIt's based on what type of event, afaik
03:54.22ThraeTheondry_: Take a look at AceTimer, it does just that.
03:54.29Theondry_Thanks
03:54.34TekcubThrae... what I mean is...
03:54.36Tekcublesse
03:54.42TekcubASCII art time...
03:54.44ThraeNot buff timers, only stuff like Rejuvination, Moonfire, etc.
03:54.55hastekyo~
03:55.00Tekcubme ............ friend ....... 40yd ......... mob
03:55.06Mikmayeah ascii arts! i'll start! /{}\
03:55.14Mikmathere you go, ascii-goatse
03:55.16gnorlishoh boy
03:55.19haste:3
03:55.22Tekcubmob is out of log range, friend is inside, do mob events targetted at friend show up?
03:55.23Zerylawesome, thanks for the help - smartace, increase log distance, AND bigwigs help
03:55.32gnorlish<|:-D
03:55.40hasteall in one!
03:56.15Zerylermm, smartsvn
03:57.07Theondry_Thrae: looked at AceTimers...  it stores all buff durations in static tables (or something like that).  I need something that can pickup the time left on a selfbuff after a console reloadui.
03:57.25ThraeTekcub: I think something like "party1target" is a server query
03:57.28ZerylIIRC, there is no PAI for that
03:57.31ZerylAPI*
03:57.55Zerylall mods i've seen store the duration in a variable, and update it ever second
03:57.56ThraeTheondry_: A buff on -yourself-? You know you can turn on minutes and seconds left on a buff with the default UI, right?
03:58.08Tekcubokey I think we're now talking about totally different shit
03:58.09Theondry_Zeryl: from what I read on wowwiki, GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft(i) should work.
03:58.13ThraeThat's only for buffs on yourself, though. And yes, that's part of the default UI.
03:58.19ThraeErrr, default API.
03:58.25*** join/#wowace Sole (n=no@203.118.159.21)
03:58.37Solehello
03:58.43Zerylwell, I shall shutup onw, lol
03:58.48Zerylwonder why mods don't use it
03:59.17Zerylseems like it would be a bit "cleaner" than keeping everything in a variable
03:59.18Soleammo, you there?
03:59.27Theondry_Thrae: Yes, of course you can.  but I want to put it in my tooltip which lists all soulstones in the group, along with time left on them.
03:59.50SoleZeryl: what would be cleaner?
04:00.14Zerylwhat about putting time cast in a variable, saving before the reload, and bringing it back after
04:00.14ThraeTekcub: Oh wait I see what you mean. From the way I understand it, the client queries all applicable monsters in your combat log range. If it's outside of your range, you do not receive the event, even if a friend is nearby who receives the event, even if you have him targeted and he is targeting the mob.
04:00.21hasteSole: It's 05:59 here
04:00.27hasteSole: so you'll have to wait a couple of hours I guess
04:00.31ThraeTheondry_: Ace'd Necromicon can already do that, among other very useful features for Warlocks.
04:00.46hasteThrae: it still looks like a house on my UI :p
04:00.49Zerylsole: using the GetPlayerBuffTimeLeft instead of keeping remaining time in a variable
04:00.56Theondry_So?
04:01.17TekcubThanks Thrae :)
04:01.19Thraehaste: Doesn't oCD also keep track of cooldowns?
04:01.29SoleZeryl: i missed the conversation but that makes sense to me
04:01.32Solehaste: dammit
04:01.34Zeryl;)
04:01.43Tekcubthat's what I was thinking, the unit that triggers the event has to be in range, not the victim
04:01.47Solehaste: I need to figure out why this guy got these errors with candybar
04:01.50hasteThrae: I compare the cooldown I find with a automaticly generated list, to prevent 'fake' and incorrect cooldowns
04:01.56hasteSole: what error
04:02.06ThraeTekcub: I suppose they could have coded it differently, but it doesn't make sense from a realistic point of view -- your character is the one experiencing the event.
04:02.09Zeryli'm a complete noob to lua (other than modifying bits and pieces) but am not new to programming in general
04:02.16Thraehaste: Ahh
04:02.18CIA-1103tekkub * r7756 10BigWigs/ (Other/Test.lua Tranq.lua):
04:02.18CIA-11BigWigs
04:02.18CIA-11- Removed the debug module completely, it's not needed anyway.
04:02.20Solehttp://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1353/wow2006081015504074np5.jpg  and http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7403/wow2006081015505842hf2.jpg
04:02.28Theondry_Zeryl: Take heart...  I'm a total noob to both.
04:02.42Zeryli do php 99% of my time, lol
04:02.55Solehe gets those candybar errors when he installs HostelBar
04:03.08ThraeIs HostelBar an Enemy Casting Bar replacement?
04:03.09Solebut when I wipe my savedvars for hostelbar and go into wow...im all fine
04:03.13SoleThrae: yes
04:03.29ThraeOoo, how far along is it? Enemy Casting Bar is a bear.
04:03.34Thrae~emulate Neronix
04:03.38purlMetaMap is HUEG LIEK PS3
04:03.42SoleThrae: and it has categorized grouping already :P which ECB hasnt had in 4.5 versions and wont have in the 5th
04:03.59Theondry_Thrae: also, I hope to add communication after 1.12 so that the addon maintains correct times on all soulstones (coordinated either by the warlocks or the recipients, as availible).
04:04.15ThraeMy UI is so efficient during raids, it only gives me 20KB/s most of the time, haha.
04:04.28GalkaWhat is your UI?
04:04.35GalkaGot an addon listing somewhere?
04:04.45ThraeTheondry_: oRA can already do that, with oRA_Cooldown.
04:04.58Thraehaste can attest to its effectiveness.
04:05.07Zeryllol, i'm almost triple that :(
04:05.10SoleWho here has actually tried using HostelBar? I need to know if those candybar errors are just 1 isolated incident or if its a problem for everyone except for me
04:05.16hasteoRA_Cooldowns sucks in it's current form!
04:05.20hastewell, parts of it :----D
04:05.24hastewhich is why I'm fixing it up
04:05.37ThraeoRA2 has a built-in Cooldown module, right?
04:05.52hastewhich is a direct one of the old one
04:05.55gnorlishwhere's that kid neronix at
04:05.58hastewhich is going to be improved
04:05.59ThraeAh.
04:05.59gnorlishwhere's he at?!?
04:07.19Mikma~seen neronix
04:07.29purlneronix <i=neronix@user-5443d8c1.lns6-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 7m 1s ago, saying: 'Andalia: Rename your interface folder and see?'.
04:07.40Mikma~seen Neronix`sleep
04:07.42purlneronix`sleep is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 32m 40s, last said: 'from (frost) shock'.
04:07.53gnorlishmobhealth3 is amazing
04:08.13Theondry_Thrae: By the same token, I can type out "my soulstone expired" or say something over Teamspeak.  Just because another addon does it, doesn't mean that I should not try to code it into my own.
04:08.23TainAnyone use any weapon buff/poison application addons?
04:09.00TainI was using one but it apparently only had a FuBar 1.0 plugin and hasn't been updated since.
04:09.06Zerylneed mobinfo3 now, lol
04:09.48Mikmami3?
04:09.59hastemobwhale3, coming to a ocean near you!
04:10.17Theondry_Tain: Autobar (toadkiller's version) is satisfactory for poisons, in my opinion.  Perhaps it's overkill, for just that.
04:10.22ThraeI was going to make a MobInfo2 replacement.
04:10.31ZerylThat'd be great if you did
04:10.33TainAutobar.. was that Saiens?
04:10.34ThraeBut I want to finish this parser lib first.
04:10.37Zerylor convert to mobinfo3 ;P
04:10.44kergothTheondry_: agreed. i use it for poisons among other things
04:10.59Theondry_Tain: yes.  Some guy took it over since saien quit.  (look on Curse)
04:11.32ThraeI don't like Autobar. If I want to drink, I just hit my C key. I use ThraeFuncs function to pick between a BG Ration, Mage Water, or another type of drink.
04:11.43Tainhrm.  Well I can look at it.  I refused to use any of his addons because he was such a goddamn prick.
04:12.10Theondry_He was not such a prick to those who suckled at his, if you read the forums.
04:12.17ckknightKameril, fixed the boolean deserialization
04:12.51ckknightI was doing == 'y' instead of == string.byte('y')
04:13.12ThraeThen again, I don't like to have a lot of buttons on my screen, I just use keybindings. With enough smart functions and addons, my keybindings are down to just those on the left side of the keyboard where I don't have to move my hand from W,A,S,D.
04:13.34Tekcubme too thrae :)
04:13.53TekcubI have a 12-button cluster with a modifier-key remap :)
04:14.11Tekcuband the two sidebars way off on my right monitor
04:14.22Tekcubbut they don't have much in em, mostly a drink button
04:14.25ThraeYeah I think I have 13, and my mouse has 5 buttons so that helps a LOT.
04:14.42ThraeI only use half of them really.
04:14.46Tekcubyea I got a better mouse with the extra buttons too
04:15.01ThraeMy mouse is not really that expensive, it just has 5 buttons and it's optical.
04:15.04TainI could never get the hang of using extra mouse buttons.
04:15.12ThraeWith the lag in a MMORPG, I don't need super-split-second optical action.
04:15.16TainI feel like they're never at a good/comfortable point for my fingers or thumb.
04:15.40ThraeI do have trouble using my pinky on the right side mouse button, but that's because I have trigger finger.
04:15.58Tekcubmy old mouse had em in a nice spot under the thumb
04:16.08Tekcubbut this one is that "opposite sides" crap
04:16.09ThraeWhich is also why I have to use touch typing, I can't use my pinky when typing.
04:16.25CIA-1103ckknight * r7757 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: AceComm - fixed boolean serialization/deserialization
04:16.48Tekcubyou should see me when I'm just waking up, I twitch so much I click all sorts of random shit
04:16.55Tainug I'm tired, I can't even work out on my head the best way to search for addons to apply poisons or other weapon buffs.
04:17.32MikmaTain: weaponrebuff redux
04:17.33ThraeDoes CorkFu support weapon buffs?
04:17.43Tekcubnot yet, write me up a template
04:18.11TainI think I had used weaponrebuff and it worked fine, but the fubar plugin wasn't working.
04:18.28ThraeI just play a Druid, heh.
04:18.29Mikmackknight: i updated _all_ my ace2 addons and others from svn and the error is gone now
04:18.38ckknightalright
04:18.59CIA-1103ckknight * r7758 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: AceComm - fixed http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=143
04:19.32Mikmaok that issue what i had with my internet might be gone now.
04:19.44Mikmamy zyxel prestige 660 dropped the link every now and then
04:20.00Mikmasometimes it was like 2-3 times in 5min
04:20.09Mikmaand sometimes once in an hour
04:20.27Tekcubhttp://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/docs/v3.3.2/index.html?clicked=jirahelp
04:20.37ThraeTekcub: What parts would I have to change in CorkFu to add range checking?
04:20.37TekcubSnapstream's bug tracker, it's kinda nice
04:20.38Mikmai got a new adsl (that was included in the offer about the internet) and haven't had a disconnect today
04:21.02ZiconSVN question: I want to prevent a single file from being updated. What is the correct/best way of doing such a thing? I'm not sure what I'm even looking for, so SVN docs don't help me much...
04:21.04TekcubThrae, you need to make the OnClick thingy test range before it casts basically
04:21.14TainYeah you know I don't have any reproducable steps but I am getting a feeling that the Ace2 libs embedding aren't always acting nicely wiith each other when there's different versions.
04:21.17Tekcubthe tooltip isn't gonna show range cause it'd have to keep updating
04:21.23Tekcubsame goes for the bar....
04:21.33SoleZicon: if you use Tortoise then in the commit dialog just untick the checkbox next to the file you dont want updated
04:21.43ThraeTekcub: Doesn't ProximityLib use an OnUpdate script already?
04:21.47TekcubI don't want it updating every second or whatever, just make the onclick loop range-smart
04:21.56ZiconMno, I don't use tortoise. I use the command line binary.
04:21.57ckknightTekcub, I've used Jira with Boo before.
04:22.00ckknightit's _very_ nice.
04:22.06TekcubI don't want it rebuilding the tablet that often
04:22.07SoleZicon: then I dont know ;(
04:22.19ThraeHow often does it rescan?
04:22.26Tekcubcause it does quite a bit now with the group buffs and shit
04:22.34Tekcubit updates when a buff changes
04:23.02Tekcuband it's throttled too
04:23.19Tekcubso it' won't update many times on mass-curses
04:23.40ThraeHmmm, you could just do it every rescan.
04:23.52ThraeWell, that is, every update.
04:24.26ThraeHiding some textures and resizing the tablet, is it really -that- expensive?
04:24.40CIA-1103ckknight * r7759 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - fixed debugging (hopefully)
04:24.56Tekcubit loops over everyone, gets their group info, builds a list of groups that need a group buff... blah blah blah
04:25.02CIA-1103theondry * r7760 10FuBar_SnaFu/ (Changes.txt FuBar_SnaFu.toc SnaFu.lua readme.txt): FuBar_SnaFu: Ready for Primetime. Base functionality is in place; just adding features and tweaking stuff (I hope). Code is as good as I can make it; please critique.
04:25.14Mikmaanyone knows the way of making all multibars shown on login and having them enabled on blizzconfig?
04:25.24TekcubI don't want it running an onupdate just for range bullshit
04:25.42Tekcubthe whole range issue is with the "all in one" macro/keybind crap anyway
04:25.57Tekcubit gets "stuck" on the first need out of range
04:26.02ThraeWell, range check OnClick isn't very useful, the spell will just fail if he's out of range anyway, and no new update will occur if he's out of range, so it's not a good idea to remove it.
04:26.18Tekcubit's the bar onclick not the tablet
04:26.27ThraeHowever, I was thinking of adding Decursive-like functionality to CorkFu.
04:26.42ThraeJust have it pick the first Debuff or Buff need (separately) that's in-range.
04:26.43Tekcubcork is not decursive
04:27.00Zerylhow is CIA-11 getting that info so quick?
04:27.01ThraeBut it -could- be. It'd like both a visual and non-visual way to easily cure ailments.
04:27.03Tekcubcork is not a "one click does everything" mod
04:27.08TekcubI don't want it to be
04:27.21ThraeThink of the poor maias of the world that get 1-2FPS in raids
04:27.34Tekcubit IS visual, the whole design is to summarize needs so the user can make the decition
04:27.45JoshBorkehey!
04:27.48JoshBorkei get 4FPS
04:27.50ThraeI don't know -why- maia raids if he/she is getting 1-2FPS, but anyway...
04:28.01ThraeYes, but...
04:28.04Thrae~JoshBorke
04:28.05purljoshborke is, like, Yes, I'm even more stupid then Thrae.
04:28.15ThraeSo you don't count.
04:28.25FryGuyhmm i think there's a memory leak in new ace/bigwigs/squishy
04:28.32FryGuymaybe rosterlib
04:28.54ThraeTekcub: Alright, I understand your convictions.
04:29.11Tekcubif you want to ace decursive, by all means we need it
04:29.23Tekcubbut cork is ace'd needylist, not ace'd decursive
04:29.42ThraeTekcub: But Buff/Debuff bound to the same button on your target is still fine, right?
04:29.51Ziconthrae: Because it's doable, and the rewards are worth it.
04:29.57ThraeNeedyList had Decursive functionality, it was just more hidden ;)
04:30.08Tekcubhell I'd be all for using both personally, cork to SEE who needs shit and decaceive to make the one-click macro easier on me
04:30.15ZiconNeedyList made me lazy. :(
04:30.22Zerylis CIA-11 just reporting new submissions in SVN?
04:30.31TainThat's why I play a Rogue.  There's nothing I ever need to do to anyone else in a raid.
04:30.33Tekcubhuh?
04:30.37hasteZeryl: something like that
04:30.41Tekcubrogues suck
04:30.44TainNo buffing, no debuffing, no curing, nothing.
04:30.46ThraeI was just thinking of BGs, where no one ever helps anyone else but me, like debuffing people.
04:30.46TekcubI don't heal rogues
04:30.50Mikmalol
04:30.52hasteevil tek
04:30.54hasteEVIL!!!
04:30.59Mikmahaste: ebil!
04:30.59TainNo one heals rogues.
04:31.03TainI go through shitloads of bandages.
04:31.05hasteMikma: ewh0l!!!11
04:31.06ThraeI only heal Rogues in BGs.
04:31.16TainAnd I'm an Alchemist for heal pots.
04:31.22Zerylany info on how to do that?  another channel i'm on would love something like that
04:31.33ThraeZeryl: Do what again?
04:31.35Tekcubthrae... uh... I'm all confused now :P
04:31.47Zerylit looks like CIA-11 is reporting svn commits
04:31.51TekcubI want to add basic range checking to the one-click cure, yes...
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04:32.15TekcubI also wont to add need priority, so you can kick decurses above buffs
04:32.15TainHey Tekkub, did you start on an addon I think I saw at one point recently to do stuff like use the best food in your inventory, best water, bandage, etc?
04:32.23Theondry_good night, all.  Thanks (again) for the help.  (if you have time to waste, please look at SnaFu and tell me what I can do to make the code better)
04:32.31ThraeTekcub: Oh, so doesn't go against your philosophy?
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04:32.45Tekcubtain: there's a method in PT that'll pick a best item based on a test function you pass
04:32.49ThraeZeryl: Ask whoever's in charge (not in here) if CIA-11 can come into your channel. It's a shared bot.
04:33.02Tekcubif it's not passed it'll pick the one with the highest PT value
04:33.09Zerylnot on this server, and would be for the svn that's used for wowroster :)
04:33.09CIA-1103tardmrr * r7761 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/ (6 files):
04:33.09CIA-11AceGUI-2.0:
04:33.09CIA-11<PROTECTED>
04:33.09CIA-11<PROTECTED>
04:33.09CIA-11<PROTECTED>
04:33.10CIA-11<PROTECTED>
04:33.13Mikmahttp://www.suikka.net/~pauli/hammerzeit.jpg
04:33.26TainAceGUI? whaa???  It's alive!
04:33.34ThraeZeryl: CIA-11 is shared all across Freenode
04:33.46ckknightlol, Mikma
04:33.53TekcubThrae: I don't not-like decursive mods, it's just that Cork's design isn't decursive's
04:34.07Tekcubthe range shit is too much overhead for cork, IMO
04:34.08Zerylya, but this is on another irc server
04:34.28ThraeMy philosophy was to keep TinyTip tiny. Then the users complained. "I want more features, blah blah blah"
04:34.28Tekcubif it's only checking range on-click, fine... but otherwise, nah
04:34.45Mikmackknight: i myself had to ask what that "hammerzeit" means.. then i was told that it is "hammertime" and i cracked
04:34.49ThraeTekcub: That's what I meant, for the one-click function, which you can keybind anyway.
04:34.50Tekcubusers can buy features from me if I don't feel like implementing them
04:35.11ckknightyea, I figured it out, Mikma
04:35.14Tekcubpaypal@drey.mailshell.com :)
04:35.16ckknightStop, Hammertime
04:35.25Thrae"Buying" features involves a dark alley and a rabbit suit, eh?
04:35.28Mikmacan't touch this diii
04:37.47Tekcubabout the only mods I don't like personally are ones that pick the best target for a heal... I don't mind ones that pick rank, but I think the player should pick target and spell
04:38.27ThraeYeah I don't like those. I used to dev for CastParty, but then I got philosophically opposed to it. That and I realized it made me a worse healer.
04:38.39ThraeBut I love Click-Casting.
04:38.49Tekcubdecursing is just a manaburn in my opinion, at least in raiding, outside raiding a mod isn't needed to handle it, the user just needs to be aware that a debuff has landed
04:39.11Tekcubhence cork :)
04:39.33hasteyou can't cure a targe that doesn't need curing anymore tho'
04:39.44hasteyou can't even purge a hostile target if it doens't need purging
04:40.01Tekcubyou still take a moment to try to cast
04:40.03ZiconI don't understand why you can't remove a debuff the way you remove a buff if you have the spell/item to do so. =/
04:40.20ThraeTekcub: Are Debuffs and Buffs kept separate in Cork's module?
04:40.40Tekcubwho removes buffs tho? people aren't used to right clicking in the buff frames during battle
04:40.57Tekcubevery "need" is a seperate module so to speak
04:41.09Tekcubmost of them are just derived from the templates
04:41.25ThraeThat reminds me, I need to add removing Thorns to be Hibernate/Entangling Roots function.
04:41.30Tekcubbut some others like tracking, pet happiness and AD Commission are "special"
04:41.53Thraes/be/my/.
04:42.05Tekcubbut yea, basically a need is just like a BW boss module
04:42.21ThraeTekcub: So I need to iterate over all members of the module? No way to just grab the 1st debuff?
04:42.33Tekcubit maintains a list of units that need something and fires an event so the core will update when that table changes
04:42.36JoshBorkei need a name for my mod!
04:42.42Kyahxwhat does it do?
04:42.50hasteJoshBorke: Fakku!
04:42.54ThraeJoshBorke: "Borked"
04:42.57JoshBorkelol
04:43.01JoshBorkehttp://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=healthmonbiggerox1.jpg is a picture of it
04:43.05Tekcubfor the range thing? inter over each unit until you find one in range, yes
04:43.13JoshBorkeit displays the health, Damage to a target, healing to a target
04:43.22haste(I watched anime earlier today, and a person was attempting to say "fuck" which basicly sounded like: FAKKU!)
04:43.35Kyahxname it 'omfgraphs'
04:43.39ThraeTekcub: Nah, I meant for putting Debuffs as the highest priority for the bar click.
04:44.10Tekcuboh that just needs to be a table to specify the order the needs should be iter'd over
04:44.22Zerylguys, thank you for all your help, and your conversion of my beloved addons.  I'll see you all around some other time :)
04:44.27Tekcuband some sort of menu settings to move a need up/down in that table
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04:45.06ThraeHmm I was thinking of something simplier then that, just putting Debuffs first or not putting Debuffs first. For a start.
04:45.43hasteJoshBorke: you can do like me, name the addons: otravi_WhatTheAddOnDoes, and if it's long - shorten it!
04:45.56hasteJoshBorke: like: Borked_Graphs
04:45.59ThraeBorked_WhatTheAddonDoes
04:46.09Tekcubdebuffs should get priority, yea
04:46.11JoshBorkelol
04:46.25Tekcubmaybe more specific ordering isn't needed
04:46.29ThraeI was just thinking of a simple toggle
04:46.45JoshBorkeBorked_HealthMon
04:46.47JoshBorke?
04:47.02ThraeJoshBorke: Too specific. "Borked_Monitor"
04:47.07hastehaha
04:47.12hastego with that
04:47.18ThraeThat way people will actually click on your addon saying "WTF is this?"
04:47.23JoshBorkelol
04:47.29haste"Hey, I made this really cool graph add on: Borked_Monitor"
04:47.30JoshBorkei like it
04:48.10ThraeIf you really want to be oscure, use "BorkedPork", as we all know extra information is "pork" ;)
04:48.19Thraes/oscure/obscure/.
04:48.52WobinWe do?
04:49.25ThraeTekcub: So back to my original question, how can I tell if an item in the table is a debuff?
04:49.47Tekcubuh
04:49.53TainDid I mention MailFu changes it's position every time I reload?
04:50.13ZiconAha! I think svn:ignore is the magic trick I was looking for!
04:50.55hastepurururin purururin
04:51.02Tekcubtemplate:SPECIAL_UNIT_DEBUFF_LOST should only exist for things based off debufftemplate, for now at least
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04:51.17hyperChipmunkI hate repositioning my FuBar plugins; they should remember what position they were in (left|center|right), or detect which part of the bar I'm clicking on and set them there when enabled
04:52.32ckknighthey
04:52.34ckknightcool idea
04:52.40ckknightthat's how I'll implement it
04:52.45ckknightby where you click on the bar
04:52.53ckknightshiny.
04:53.09Tainheh but I click on a bar wherever there's an empty spot!  Which.... oh.. I guess an empty spot would be a good place to enable a plugin, huh.
04:53.14Temcan they at least remember which section of the bar they are in?
04:53.30Temnot always,Tain
04:53.50Temif I'm disabling a plugin that goes on the right, I probably don't have right click space there
04:53.56TemI click on the biggest open space
04:54.05TainI usually click on a plugin itself to disable it.
04:54.18Temoops
04:54.18JoshBorkei just don't disable anything
04:54.29Tems/dis/en/
04:54.38TainYeah I see what you mean.
04:54.56hyperChipmunkit's a pain in the butt enabling a plugin I always have on the right side and having it overflow the center, then having to reposition it right and then reposition the centers back to the original bar and removing the overflow bar
04:55.41hyperChipmunki just accidentally removed the main one
04:55.41Temit would be shiny for them to show up where I clicked if and only if I clicked in the area where they were last
04:55.41hyperChipmunkabout an hour ago
04:55.41TemhyperChipmunk, so disable overflowing of plugins
04:56.03TainI understand the option there, but plugins creating new bars on overflow bugged the absolute hell out of me.  Mainly when I'd forget to disable it on a new char, or new install, o rsomething.
04:56.06Tem(where "the area they were last" is left, right or center)
04:56.06ThraeTek's code confuses me
04:56.22ZiconOverflow is evil. =|
04:56.22TemTain, yeah, me too
04:56.27ThraeI don't see how it's possible to tell one module apart from another in CorkFu's main list of modules.
04:56.30TemI don't want more than one bar
04:56.32Temever
04:56.45ThraeIt's so polymorphic, you don't know what the hell you're dealing with.
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04:56.47hyperChipmunki'm afraid if I don't allow overflow, they'll go off the screen
04:56.50Tekcubwhat's so confusing?
04:56.59Temand I certainly don't want the bar deciding to spawn more bars
04:57.12Tekcuband yea, I hate overflow
04:57.33TekcubI personally wanna just flat out override the positions.... give a table or some shit that fu always would use
04:57.37TainOk who did the Bugsack Minimap icon?
04:57.56Tekcub{clock, friend, guild, group, paintball}
04:58.08hyperChipmunkright
04:58.10hyperChipmunkthat'd be ideal
04:58.13Temhmm
04:58.14Temyeah
04:58.17hyperChipmunkif you change it, it should stick when you bring it back
04:58.38TemFuBar could just keep a table in it's SV's of where things are
04:58.42ThraeWell, you send a local reference to Core.lua via CORKFU_REGISTER_MODULE, which is then put into the main module via its reference index. I have nothing to test this module against to determine if it came from DebuffTemplate, BuffTemplate, or WallazazooTemplate.
04:58.44Temeven the disabled things
04:58.49hyperChipmunkthat's what i said originally; I offered the 'put it where you click' as an alternate option that doesn't require any information to be saved
04:59.15hyperChipmunkand either would work for me
04:59.15Wobinoh god
04:59.18Wobinhttp://www.livejournal.com/userpic/38686698/1094466
04:59.25TemI like the saving a lot better
04:59.46ThraeDoing "local template = {}" and then "CorkFu_DebuffTemplate = {}" afterwards confused me even greater.
04:59.49TemWobin, what is that?
04:59.56Tekcubthrae, if it's from debuff it'll have a function named "SPECIAL_UNIT_DEBUFF_LOST"
05:00.02WobinIt's half Iron Chef, half... god knows what
05:00.11Tekcubno other modules have that, for the moment at least
05:00.27Tekcubcork needs rewritten into Ace2 badly
05:00.33ThraeTekcub: That's kinda hacky. What if I made the local "template" into a global?
05:00.40ThraeWould that break your design philosophy?
05:01.05TemWobin, I thought it was an umpa-lumpa
05:01.07ThraeThen I could do self.var.modules[ GlobalDebuffTemplate ]
05:01.12Tekcubwhy not slip a flag into the template that'd get copied inte the derivitives?
05:01.34Tekcubtemplate.thisisfuckingdebuffnowleavmealone = true
05:01.36ThraeWell, I was hoping to be able to index it directly instead of iterating over all modules
05:02.08ThraeThis is Lua, iterating is for C!
05:02.17Tekcub*sigh*
05:02.47hastehaha
05:02.51hasteJapanese powerpuff girls
05:03.18Thrae"Powerpuff Girls Z" is even less adult-themed then the American version, I was surprised
05:03.31ThraeTekcub: Fine fine, I'll do it your way
05:03.41hasteThrae: I'm watching some transformation shit right now :p
05:04.15TekcubPPGZ is beyond aweful
05:04.30Thraehaste: Yeah well they're in the equivilent of middle school, having transformations in the American version would be beyond perverted
05:04.45hasteThrae: I'm on the floor laughing tho' :p
05:05.46ThraeI stopped watching after the 1st episode. For an American cartoon that paid a great deal of homage to Japanese culture and which was very popular over there, they hurt it badly. Very badly.
05:06.26hasteI'm so glad I haven't seen a episode of PPGZ yet :D
05:06.29TekcubPPGZ is like 60% reuing the same pointless filler transitions over and over again
05:06.54TainTekkub any idea why I get this?    SpecialEvents\FuBar_SEAura.lua:23: attempt to index global `FuBar_SEAura' (a nil value)
05:07.08ThraePPGZ took all of what made PPG cool and replaced it with the crappy stuff from Saily Moon.
05:07.26Tekcubcause it's a 1.0 plugin, get rid of it it was for debugging
05:07.39hasteSailor Moon!
05:07.46hasteso glad I haven't watched that either
05:08.03TainSailor Moon was a much better show than the American version showed.
05:08.09Tekcubyou shouldn't even have SE non-embed anymore
05:08.18hasteThrae: seen nhk ni youkoso ?
05:08.57TainEhn I can't keep track
05:09.03ThraeHeh, I remember the English dub company that dubbed some of the episodes of Sailor Moon using some type of weird gansta-speak.
05:09.05hasteI watch way to much anime :p
05:09.12Thraehaste: You already asked me that, and yes :D
05:09.22hasteThrae: pfft, I never remmeber all the people I ask questions
05:09.25JoshBorkeok, how can i move my mod to a new folder on SVN?
05:09.33hasteI spend several hours each day discussing it on VT :p
05:09.37hasteor.. each night
05:09.40ThraeJoshBorke: Import, it'll create the directory for you
05:09.54JoshBorkeThrae: i want to keep all the history
05:10.13Thraehaste: I have at least 3 Terrabytes of fansub'd anime and I've watched 80% of it
05:10.20JoshBorkeit's already in SVN as a different mod, just want to rename it
05:10.25ThraeWait, 3 Terrabytes is way too much
05:10.27Thrae2 Terrabytes
05:10.37ThraeJoshBorke: Use Rename
05:10.41hasteThrae: I don't know how much I would have if I actually saved the stuff I watch
05:10.46TainIf using Tortoise then right-click - TortoiseSVN - Rename
05:10.58TainAnd commit
05:11.12ThraeI'm currently up-to-date on all fansubbed anime that I'm interested in, which is most.
05:11.42hasteThrae: name some good series, I'm pretty much out of date :p
05:11.44ThraeShoujo, Shoujo-ai, and Yuri get the highest priority of course! Harem is always nice.
05:12.04ThraeOh and Ecchi too.
05:12.07hasteI really don't care about the genre
05:12.36Thraehaste: Depends, do you like silly, serious, or both?
05:12.43hasteboth
05:14.10Tekcubspeaking of anime
05:14.18TekcubNaruto is a furry
05:14.19ThraeFor serious anime with a touch of Harem, there's the fantasy anime Utawarerumono which I'm loving. For Shoujo there's Kamisama Kazoku. For Seinen there's Ah! My Goddess TV S2. For Yuri there's Strawberry Panic and Girl Meets Girl.
05:14.22ckknightThrae, rophy seems like a dick here: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1867.msg35038
05:14.35ckknightvery much a holier than thou attitude
05:14.44Kyahx"why not just use sky?"
05:14.50Kyahx:)
05:15.26ThraeFor Ecchi there's Inukami!, and if you haven't started watching One Piece fansubbed (not the crap in the US), do so now.
05:15.37Thraeckknight: Mmmm did he respond to my response?
05:15.40Tekcubbut... chknight...
05:15.42ckknightyes
05:15.42hasteI've read the one piece mange ;)
05:15.45hastemanga*
05:16.19ThraeI like some manga, but action-oriented series like One Piece I like it as long as it closely follows the manga, which it does.
05:16.32hastehehe
05:16.34ckknightTekcub, but what?
05:16.45Tekcubbut... cHknight...
05:16.49TekcubHHHH
05:17.03Tekcubdid you not catch that ?  he did it like 5 times
05:17.51ckknightreally?
05:17.57ckknightgoddammit, I'ma yell at him
05:18.56TainI'm still sad that the Cartoon Network doesn't play Cowboy Bebop still.
05:19.36TekcubCN is.. meh
05:19.42hasteCN showed .hack!
05:19.53Thraeckknight: What do you think rophy means that using deformat is not enough to make the library locale-independant?
05:20.05ckknightDeformat is perfect.
05:20.12ckknightunless a bug shows up
05:20.14TekcubI need to watch the videogame OVAs so that I can start into .hack//DUSK
05:20.19ckknightbut for what you're doing, it's perfect
05:20.35ThraeBut what ParserLib does is the same for what I do.
05:20.38Tekcuband what's the new one
05:20.45Tekcub.hack//ROOTS or sumptin
05:21.18ThraeWe do it differently, but it's the same result. So why should he need to do any more localization?
05:21.20hasteroots is building up atm
05:21.43ckknightThrae, *shrug*
05:21.48Tekcubnoone wants to debate naruto == a furry with me?
05:21.51ckknightdeformat is good, it works
05:21.51Tekcub*cry*
05:21.57Thrae50% of .hack anime is filler.
05:22.01ckknightalso, why does he say CombLib is only 10-30% complete?
05:22.27hasteThrae: I still like .hack tho
05:22.52Thraeckknight: Maybe I should respond back and tell him I wrote CombLib based on the pattern -> to -> event list he posted on wowwiki
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05:23.01ThraeWell, partially based
05:23.10ckknight-> to ->?
05:23.12Tekcubthrae, isn't 50% of MMO gaming "timesink" filler?
05:23.26ckknightyou know what?
05:23.28ckknightI'm tired.
05:23.30Tekcubwhy would a TV show about an MMO be different?
05:23.32ThraeI watch .hack anime, but some episodes are so very boring
05:23.35ckknightI'm gonna play WoW and zone out
05:23.49ckknightif anybody finds a bug, do not message or ping me, leave a bug on flyspray
05:23.55Tekcubplay wow?
05:24.09Thraeckknight: He made a list of all the patterns for CHAT_MSG events he uses in ParserLib.
05:24.25ThraeEvidentially, the list is wrong, since I mostly copied.
05:24.29Thraes/copied/copied it/.
05:24.37ckknightalso, if someone running Windows can reproduce the AceHook bug, zip up your enabled addons and email it to me
05:24.55Tekcubthrae... you couldn't tell me what event matches "^(.+)'s Tranquilizing Shot missed .+.$" could you?
05:24.58hastewhat AceHook bug?
05:25.11Tekcubhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1762.msg35104.html#msg35104   <-- I need to match the strings to their event
05:25.14ckknightthe cannot change an AceOO read-only class
05:25.23ckknightif you don't get it, you can't help me
05:25.31hasteI've gotten that one actually, then I updated my Ace2 addons - and it went away
05:25.31ckknightit's due to an upgrade bug in AceOO/AceLibrary
05:25.46TekcubsI got it, but I don't think I get it now..
05:25.50ThraeTekcub: It -should- be SPELL_DAMAGE, but I'm finding that there are some exceptions.
05:26.20Tekcub:) I just need it for tranqy :)
05:26.21WobinTekcub: Naruto is like... reverse furry.
05:26.30Tekcubhrm...
05:26.41Tekcubhe doesn't want to be a fox, but he is?
05:26.47hastesomething like that
05:26.51Wobin=)
05:26.56Tekcuband what's with the not-wiskers?
05:27.10Wobin=X)
05:27.16ThraeTekcub: No, I mean SPELL misses should be from SPELL_DAMAGE, but I haven't had time to test it with anything other then SELF yet. Gimmie a few days then I can tell you conclusively.
05:27.18Tekcuband he squints all the time, he looks like Mr. Magoo
05:27.29WobinSquinting is a sign of Furry?
05:27.31Tekcubokey thrae :)
05:27.47Tekcubno... squinting is... creepy
05:27.48WobinAlthough, I have to admit, the village is a very bright place
05:28.01WobinI'd probably be squinting too if I didn't have sunglasses or something
05:28.16Tekcubanime's all about big huge quivering eyes that portray all the emotions being expressed by the char
05:28.36WobinKind of like Frodo
05:28.46Tekcubfrodo's creepy in other ways
05:28.48WobinWhere all the emotions == "Stunned mullet"
05:29.41Tekcubfrodo makes me think gnomes which make me think taru... fucking taru magi bitches
05:29.59Wobin"Oh Mr Frodo!"
05:30.12Tekcubnow dwarves, beardyhead guy from sliders... mmmmm...
05:30.16WobinSAm is such a domless sub
05:30.28Tekcublol, that he is
05:30.40Tekcubhe might as well call him "Sir"
05:31.04WobinBeardyhead guy? The one that looks like Pavarotti?
05:31.17TekcubYES!
05:31.30TekcubThe Professor from Sliders
05:31.33Tekcub*moan*
05:31.44Valdeckalright, back to trying to get this thing to let me download
05:31.49Tekcubwhat was his name.. Prof. Arturo
05:32.39Valdeckyea
05:32.41Valdeckthat was him
05:32.45TainThat show was dumb, then good, then dumb.  But I kind of liked it overall.
05:32.59Tekcubhrm... off to install the GM update of my PVR software
05:33.04Tekcubv4.4 wheeee!
05:33.11Valdeckcool
05:33.22Tekcubsliders? went to shit after they killed off Prof
05:33.30Valdeckhmmm hey is anyone using otravis 2.0 unit frams?
05:33.39Tekcubthen scifi got it and made a good attempt to save it, but it just didn't work
05:33.45Valdeckyea it did, they really shoul dhave killed it off a few seasons earlier
05:34.06Tekcuband that fucker Remmy, he was the stupidest char and he was the only one to last the whole show
05:34.28Valdecklol
05:34.33Tekcuband the only one to "slide home" in the end, what a waste
05:34.49Tekcubit was as depressing an ending as Quantum Leap's
05:35.04Valdecklol
05:35.09Valdecknice i forgot about that one
05:35.10ThraeQuantum Leap's ending was far more depressing for me, it was way obvious it was rushed.
05:35.13WobinI liked QL
05:35.21TainI remember one where they found the counterpart to the main slider guy who like wiped out most of the human race with sliding experiments, or something like that.
05:35.22WobinThey're coming out with a sequel apparantly
05:35.32Wobinfor QL
05:35.32ThraeSliders should have ended at like Season 5, but somehow kept on going.
05:35.37Tekcubyou do know Scot Bacula == big omo right?
05:35.38WobinJust like Buffy
05:35.42ThraeReally? Sci-fi channel?
05:35.46Tekcubs/omo/homo
05:35.48Tekcubs/omo/homo/
05:35.53Tekcubkek
05:35.53WobinReally? =)
05:35.59ThraeScott Bacula certainly is BIG already.
05:36.06Valdeckdoes anyone know why this SVN server wont let me checkout? I have done everything I can think of and no luck
05:36.09ThraeAnd by big I mean tall.
05:36.16Tekcubhe's quite fuzzy too
05:36.18TainActually as far as depressing series finalies go, do you remember the show Dinosaurs (I think it was just called)?  
05:36.18WobinBuffy should have stopped at season 5
05:36.26TainNot the momma, baby and all that
05:36.28WobinNOT DA MAMMA!
05:36.29Wobin?
05:36.31Valdecklol that was a crappy show
05:36.36Tekcubhe had a shower scene in Enterprize and they didn't shave him for it :)
05:36.39Valdeckitw as on TGIF
05:37.04TainI happenend to see the series finale one day.
05:37.09ThraeShaving him would reduce his hick-ness.
05:37.27TainDepressing as all hell.  They basically end knowing they're all about to die off and become extinct.
05:37.33Wobin=(
05:39.20WobinHehe
05:39.26Valdeck?
05:39.30hastezomg!
05:39.32WobinI like how the MTV movie award for Best Kiss went to Jake and Heath
05:39.37hasteFirst time I've seen someone said: PK in WoW
05:39.40Valdecklol
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05:39.43Valdecknice
05:39.49Valdeckgood ole PK
05:40.07ValdeckHaste: you got a second?
05:40.08hastetoo bad I'm on my shaman, and my general respons to PvP on it is: /sit
05:40.18hastea second, yes ;)
05:40.21Valdecklol
05:40.33Valdeckgood, can you email me some zip files :D
05:40.37CairennDsanai comes in here, but not in the lounge?
05:40.53hasteI can do a checkout later, but not now
05:40.59DsanaiLounge?
05:41.00ValdeckI am about to throw this computer through the wall lol
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05:41.05Valdeckalright
05:41.05Cairenn#wowi-lounge
05:41.09ValdeckI apprechiate it
05:41.10Wobin#wowi-lounge
05:41.20Amadeo:D
05:41.23TainAll the cool kids come in here.
05:41.26Cairennwere coders besides just Ace hang out :p
05:41.28DsanaiI just found this channel from a post of ck's, not up on the niceties yet  ;)
05:41.44AmadeoTain: Nice! I'm cool!
05:41.47Wobinyeah =)
05:41.48CairennTain: not true, you guys don't get Slouken or Iriel! so Hah! :p~~~
05:41.53WobinThis is the Cool Club =)
05:42.04Temoh well
05:42.05AmadeoCairenn: You guys get Slouken?
05:42.06TainSlouken and Iriel have reputations to uphold.
05:42.11Wobinyeah
05:42.14WobinThey can't go slumming
05:42.18TainBut they want to be in here.
05:42.23TainThey just can't admit it.
05:42.25Tem#wowi-lounge gets visits from slouken from time-to-time
05:42.28AmadeoGet Slouken to embed Ace2 in WoW, rofl
05:42.43Temmeh
05:42.50Temtheir update schedule is too slow for me
05:42.58TemI like it better with us controling that
05:43.03AmadeoTrue
05:43.33TemNow, I wish they'd change their Readycheck feature to use SendAddonMessage
05:43.44TemI absolutely hate the way it's coded now
05:43.48Temanyway
05:43.54Temtime for bed
05:44.03Tem|Sleepnight guys
05:44.09TainThat reminds me!  Has anyone added a sound notification in oRA when a readycheck comes?
05:44.11Dsanainight
05:44.14TainOr is there one already and I just didn't know?
05:44.25hasteIt's already there?
05:44.30Tem|SleepTain, it's been there for ages
05:44.35TainMine doesn't do it. :(
05:44.36Tem|Sleepmay not be on by default though
05:44.42TainI'll look.
05:44.51hasteit's off by default
05:44.54Valdecki know there is one that adds like a stop light thing with a Red, Yellow, and Green light
05:45.34TainAlthough the "leaders" in my guild do readychecks so often at such absurd times I really have been tempted to code an autoreply.
05:47.08Amadeohow do you start a readycheck?
05:47.12DsanaiI have a Fubar 2 question... is this an appropriate place to ask, or should I go elsewhere?
05:47.25Tem|Sleepthis is the right place
05:47.34DsanaiGood to hear that  :)
05:47.39Tem|Sleepyou might want to poke ckk to see if he's here though
05:47.45Tem|Sleeptends to ninja afk even more than me
05:47.54Tekcubhey it's D
05:47.58Dsanaiheh, it is!
05:48.11Tem|Sleepanyway, going to bed for real this time
05:48.14Dsanainight  :)
05:48.15TainSpeaking of ninja afk, I'm going to sleep.
05:48.20Dsanaiheh
05:48.20Tainerr.. that wasn't very ninja like.
05:48.20TekcubI think you'll like it here D
05:48.39Tekcubckk went to play wow, he said not to ping him
05:48.53DsanaiHope so  ;)  I'm fairly new to IRC, so I wouldn't have known how to anyway  ;)
05:49.13Wobinpoor ck plays so rarely =P
05:49.18DsanaiI'm also new to Ace and Fubar, from a coding standpoint, and am about to beat my head against my desk.
05:49.34Valdeckonly codeing I know if flexbar
05:49.45Valdeckwhat re you stuck on Dsanai?
05:49.50DsanaiYou're one up on me there -- Flexbar scares me  ;)
05:50.22DsanaiI'm coding in optional compatibility with Fubar into AutoBuff -- and have everything working except the tooltip, which is throwing an error within Plugin-2.0 module  :(
05:50.24Valdecklol i lost many a brain cell to the computer desk
05:50.26TekcubD: get used to the more OO design and you'll do fine :)
05:50.42DsanaiI'm trying, Tek. :)
05:51.03DsanaiError: ...rface\AddOns\AutoBuff\libs\Tablet-2.0\Tablet-2.0.lua:2265: attempt to index a nil value
05:51.22Valdeckhmm.... have you looked up some other buff addons for code examples?
05:51.31DsanaiI only have one working plugin example using 2.0: WhisperCast -- and everything looks the same
05:51.45DsanaiBut it works, and mine does not.
05:51.51Valdeckyea you would be the first to combine these two
05:51.55DsanaiLOL
05:52.05Valdeckwell what is on line 2265
05:52.09Valdeck:)
05:52.12dreyruugrare there any special tricks to setting up a library based on AceOO?
05:52.16DsanaiHang on, I did look at it a moment ago
05:52.35Wobindreyruugr: Did you read the wiki doc?
05:52.50dreyruugryeah
05:53.06dreyruugrit just says that you can do it... doesn't elaborate too much on it
05:53.11DsanaiLine 2265: tooltip.enteredFrame = true
05:53.17DsanaiTells me that enteredFrame isn't being set
05:53.26DsanaiBut I don't know why
05:53.28WobinHave a look at Metrognome-2.0 and such
05:53.38dreyruugrI did it and al, just getting a script error on load
05:53.57Valdeckset as in, its not sitting according to what? the parent frame?
05:54.13Valdeckor set as in setting a value
05:54.20Dsanaitooltip.enteredFrame seems to be nil.
05:54.35Valdeckah
05:54.38Valdeckwell
05:55.10Valdeckto be honest to tool tips were never really my thing. But I would suggest you check out tiny tip and tip buddy
05:55.20Valdeckyou will have to wade through some code but they are quality
05:55.35Valdeckhave you talked to the people maintaiing fubar?
05:55.43DsanaiNo, was hoping CK would be around
05:56.01Tekcubwhat exactly are you trying to do with the tip?
05:56.07Tekcubpastebin it up?
05:56.45DsanaiJust get a mouseover display when you move the cursor over the icon on the Fubar
05:56.58DsanaiFound this line in Tablet-2.0.lua:  tooltip = CreateFrame("Frame", "TabletLibFrame", UIParent)
05:57.02Tekcubpastebin your tooltip code
05:57.53DsanaiThat's just it, even simply using the 'example' code from the FuBarPlugin wiki page isn't working. What's "pastebin"?
05:58.05Tekcub*points at topic*
05:58.21DsanaiThanks, one sec  :)
05:59.57Wobinor www.pasteybin.com I think
06:00.13DsanaiSubmitting now... being slow
06:01.23Cairennor http://wowi.pastey.net/
06:01.58Tekcubuse .ca, .com is all slow as shit anymore
06:02.07Tekcubor pastey
06:02.12DsanaiCairenn's was much faster
06:02.19Dsanaihttp://wowi.pastey.net/205
06:02.22Thraehttp://ace.pastey.net is up there too
06:02.42ThraeWe should use that instead of pastebin.ca, as lots of pastebin.com users are moving over to .ca.
06:03.33Cairennyeah, the *.pastey.net ones are the ones norgs created for the wow modding community specifically
06:03.38CIA-1103joshborke * r7762 10Borked_Monitor/: Borked_Monitor: Created folder remotely
06:03.48ThraeWell there's ace.pastebin.ca, but it's sometimes slow.
06:03.53Cairennas opposed to every coder and their dog per pastebin.*
06:04.00DsanaiYeah, tried that one first, but it took forever  :(
06:04.07Tekcubyou keep using the same "text" in your AddCategroy calls, not sure if that's an issue
06:04.14DsanaiOh well, whichever one works at the moment  ;)  That's pretty handy
06:04.32DsanaiTek: I actually had the lower three commented out during testing, I just uncommented to post
06:04.46DsanaiThey weren't finished, once I got the error, I simplified to try to bugshoot
06:04.47Tekcubyou don't have to declare the text thing if you don't want a title for the categroy
06:04.52Dsanai<nods>
06:04.58Tekcubahso...
06:04.59DsanaiPlease ignore those lower three paragraphs  :)
06:05.29DsanaiI plan on just doing an AddLine for each of the other three if I ever get it to work
06:05.41Dsanaibtw, it gives the same error if I have an empty function (no code at all)
06:07.02Tekcubhrm...
06:07.06DsanaiYeah
06:07.10Tekcubusing latest Tablet off the SVN?
06:07.26DsanaiI don't recall where I got it from, I'll go grab it
06:07.28CIA-1103joshborke * r7763 10HealthMon/ (4 files):
06:07.28CIA-11HealthMon:
06:07.29CIA-11- getting ready to rename to Borked_Monitor
06:07.29CIA-11- added decayInfo option that is on by default.
06:07.54Tekcubyea make sure it's the latest SVN one, if it is then file a bug on FlySpray for ckk
06:08.12CIA-1103hk2717 * r7764 10FuBar/FuBar-Locale-zhCN.lua: FuBar: zhCN localization added.
06:08.43DsanaiThe thing is... the WhisperCast addon works. Grumble
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06:09.29Tekcubyea I don't see anything off there
06:10.04ThraeCan anyone else take a look at rophy's ParserLib-2.0 to help with my low self-esteem issues?
06:10.39ThraeAs far as I can tell, I am in the right when it comes to CombLib's overall design, but obviously I doubt myself when it comes to someone who took so much time as rophy when it comes to testing, stress testing, and data mining.
06:11.29DsanaiAlright, grabbed latest off SVN, we'll see what happens.
06:11.39hasteexplosions!
06:11.43DsanaiProbably
06:12.05Thrae"Your addon errors crit you for #INF damage. You die."
06:12.11DsanaiError: ...rface\AddOns\AutoBuff\libs\Tablet-2.0\Tablet-2.0.lua:16: Bad argument #3 to  `IsNewVersion'. Must be a number or SVN revision string. "$Revision$" is not appropriate
06:12.13DsanaiClose enough.
06:12.33Tekcubway to not use an SVN client
06:12.37ThraeDsanai: Did you use a SVN Client or did you download it directly off the http:// site?
06:12.54DsanaiI have an SVN client but it asks for a password. I'm such a newb. Sigh.
06:12.59ThraeDon't use http to download our SVN projects, we use keywords for great justice.
06:13.06Tekcubpass is only to commit
06:13.22DsanaiI must be using Tortoise wrong then
06:13.32TekcubCheckout?
06:13.53DsanaiWill try again
06:14.26FISKER_QZOMG
06:14.33Tekcubwhat fister?
06:14.38FISKER_Qgonna save runecloth for BC
06:14.45Tekcubwhy?
06:14.50FISKER_QBlood Elfs ride Cockatrices
06:14.51FISKER_Q:o
06:15.00TekcubI'd love to ride a cock
06:15.16FISKER_Qhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockatrice
06:15.18TekcubWhat do galka get?
06:15.39FISKER_Qgalka?
06:15.49Tekcubgalka, dranei, same diff
06:16.10FISKER_Qah
06:16.15FISKER_QWar Elephants
06:16.28DsanaiOkay, I get it now. Sigh. Checkout successful.
06:16.50Tekcubelephants? fuck what's wrong with blizzy?
06:17.01FISKER_Qdunno
06:17.09FISKER_Qbut i want dragonchickens
06:17.20DsanaiCan I shoot myself now? Tek, it's working.
06:17.36Tekcub^^
06:17.37DsanaiWhere the hell did I get my copy of Tablet in the first place? <slaps forehead>
06:17.43Tekcublern2SVN, you'll love it
06:17.49CairennFISKER_Q: where did you get the info that those will be their mounts?
06:18.05DsanaiI gotta lern2everything  :P  I'm an old coder, hard to learn new tricks
06:18.16dreyruugrAnyone familiar with using AceOO in a library?
06:18.18Tekcuband.. http://www.blizzard.com/wow/screenshot.aspx?ImageIndex=72&Set=64  <--- why does that dorf have Lois Griffin's nose?
06:18.44CIA-1103joshborke * r7766 10Borked_Monitor/ (6 files):
06:18.44CIA-11Borked_Monitor:
06:18.44CIA-11- gave up on keeping history. imported files from HealthMon.
06:18.44DsanaiI'm an idiot, but I'm luvable  ;)
06:19.11Cairennnaw, not an idiot
06:19.16CairennI can point you to idiots
06:19.20Tekcubthere aren't even elephants in the fucking game... bah
06:19.31TekcubAnduinLothar?
06:19.40CairennTekcub: ><
06:19.43JoshBorkelol
06:19.44Tekcub^^
06:20.07TekcubI'm still proud that I got 2 people booted from the other channel with that
06:20.08JoshBorkenight all
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06:20.19Dsanai;)
06:20.29Cairenndon't be, I was SO pissed off at you for that :p
06:20.38Cairennjerk :p
06:20.55Tekcubhey, I didn't think they would actually repeat it
06:21.04Cairennyeah, well ...
06:21.18TekcubI left him a surprise in purl too
06:21.23CairennI know
06:21.25Tekcubsomeday he will find it
06:21.34Tekcuband I will be like: *snicker*
06:21.52Cairennso, out of curiosity ... naw, nm, I already know the answer
06:21.58Tekcubwhat?
06:22.00Tekcubsay it
06:22.10Cairennwhy?
06:22.20Tekcubcause I wanna know
06:22.23Tekcubbah brb
06:22.23hastewhat's the fucking odds of getting eight failed attempts on a flower
06:22.26hasteafter eachother
06:22.39Cairennwhy do you have to act like a complete dick some times? I know you aren't actually
06:22.40DsanaiLow  ;)
06:22.52Cairennhaste: I think that's a record
06:23.01CairennTekcub: the "why" was the question :p
06:23.20ThraeHmm, TortoiseSVN killed Windows.
06:23.51DsanaiOuch
06:24.16DsanaiMan, this modular addon coding has quite the learning curve  :D
06:24.36DsanaiTek, isn't ItemDed yours?
06:25.37DsanaiNow I gotta see if I broke anything in the standalone version, lol
06:26.22Tekcuboh, because I hate him, on a Saien level
06:26.30Tekcubmaybe even super-Saien
06:26.33Tekcub*hides*
06:26.41Tekcubsorry, it was bad, but I had to
06:26.52Cairenn~sigh Tekcub
06:26.54purlACTION sighs, rolls its eyes and shakes its head, "Tekcub!"
06:26.56TekcubD: yes ItemDed is
06:27.08TekcubI seriously need to finish converting/fixing it
06:27.29DsanaiThat's the only addon I'm considering going back to Titan for, lol
06:27.41DsanaiThere's nothing else that does what it does, and I use it many times a night
06:28.01ThraeWhat does Itemized Deductions do?
06:28.04DsanaiHow difficult would a down-and-dirty functionality-only port be, do you think?
06:28.14TekcubItemDed is Fu-fie now
06:28.18Tekcub*points at SVN*
06:28.26DsanaiIt automatically (based on rules you set) finds the least-valuable items in your bags so you can quickly destroy the least valuable to make room.
06:28.41DsanaiItemDed works in Fu? Since when??
06:28.49Tekcubyea I need to get the destroy method working :)
06:28.55ThraeAh, how often does it destroy something important?
06:28.58Tekcubsince I put it on the SN....
06:29.03DsanaiOnly on demand -- never automatically
06:29.14TekcubCair: ID is seriously scatterbrained ATM
06:29.31ThraeTrash-o-Matic does that too.
06:29.39DsanaiWhat can I bribe you with for a simple port, Tek? Seriously.  ;-)
06:29.42Tekcubit's like 1/2 old code, 1/2 ACe'd code, 1/2 new module design
06:29.52DsanaiDoesn't Trash-o-matic do it automagically? That scares me.
06:30.14ThraeTrash-o-Matic has blacklists for grey items
06:30.15Tekcubmaybe I should just rewrite it from the ground up
06:30.16ThraeErrr
06:30.18ThraeSpecial grey items
06:30.24TekcubDeuce'd/FuTu'd
06:30.30DsanaiCan you set it to do *some* white items but not all?
06:30.41TekcubThrae: there are no special greys... anymore
06:30.47ThraeI use Minimalist myself, which incorporated Trash-o-Matic
06:30.50TekcubID needs to support PT sets
06:30.52DsanaiTorn Bear Pelts are grey, Tek
06:30.53ThraeMaybe it was special whites
06:30.58KemayoHello, Tekcub.  I hear that you desperately desire my company.
06:31.09Tekcubit was the thing that motivated me to write PT, and it doesn't use it
06:31.10ThraeDsanai: Yeah, it has custom ignore lists
06:31.25Tekcubkem: I have good idea for ToFu's data structure
06:31.38Tekcubthat big table scares me a lot
06:31.39DsanaiHmm... I might have to use it (if I won't go unless I tell it to!) in the meantime. I need that functionality. I am really liking Fubar, but I need ItemDed.  ;)
06:31.55KemayoQuite fair.  What are you thinking of?
06:32.00TekcubD: bear pelts are Faire item right?
06:32.05Cairennguys, does anyone remember a mod that moves the scrolling damage text *you do to a mob* down the screen, so it doesn't scroll *above* the mobs head?
06:32.06Tekcubfaire items aren't grey anymore
06:32.18DsanaiDid that change recently? They were last I knew
06:32.25DsanaiLet me check my Possessions, I have some somewhere
06:32.32Tekcub1.11 changed it I think
06:32.33sedatedChipmunkCairenn: no, but that'd be nice
06:32.46Cairennlol chip, you sleep as well as I do!
06:32.50sedatedChipmunklemme know when you find it =D
06:32.52sedatedChipmunk<3
06:33.01sedatedChipmunki'm totally sleeping
06:33.02sedatedChipmunkshh
06:33.05KemayoI'm the first to admit that I really didn't think too hard about the best choice of data structures.  :)
06:33.09Tekcubsleeptyping ftw
06:33.10Cairenngotcha ;)
06:33.10ThraeWhat's the Cure Debuff range? Around 40?
06:33.32TekcubKem: change it into a PT/KCI style string-thingie
06:33.39Tekcubgive each location a number
06:34.12Tekcubthen make a big long string like "1:2:1000:250"
06:34.23sedatedChipmunk(this is actually the 7-foot tall elf statue that chip infused life into but still forces to wear hardly any clothes and stand in the corner of his room that's typing)
06:34.31Tekcubgoing from location 1 to location 2, 10s, 250 seconds
06:35.01Tekcuband, unlike PT, you don't need to parse that out into a table, because the only time the info is needed is when the taxi map is open
06:35.06sedatedChipmunk(I will murder him in his sleep one day when he least suspects it.  Don't tell)
06:35.21DsanaiLooks like Trash-o-matic only works on items you specfically tell it TO destroy, not based on actual vendor value. It's not what I want.  :(
06:35.25Cairennlol!
06:35.32KemayoThat would be a lot more efficient...
06:35.34Cairenn~chippersnack sedatedChipmunk
06:35.36purlACTION feeds sedatedChipmunk some nuts.
06:35.40Tekcubyes, TOM is a whitelist style trashing
06:35.49ThraeDsanai: Ah well I know there's an addon like ItemizedDeductions out there, and I know Minimalist can do it too.
06:36.16ThraeTekcub: Mmmm does CorkFu currently include anything that can get me info on spell ranges?
06:36.23DsanaiIf you can find it for me, I'll be greatly appreciative. There are few addons I actually don't feel like playing without. ItemDed is one.  :)
06:36.35ThraeDsanai: Try Minimalist on ui.worldofwar.net
06:36.39GalkaChrist there is a serious flaw in my UI somehow
06:36.44Galka22 mb UI mem at startup
06:36.50ThraeOr it might be on wowinterface.com too
06:36.53Galka52mb UI mem in  AQ20 man atm
06:37.44Dsanaieep
06:37.50Dsanaiwill check, thanks, Thrae
06:38.15Tekcubno thrae...
06:38.28ThraeIs there any lib with spell information?
06:38.42Tekcuband Rowne's Zoot is basically the pre-titan ItemDed
06:38.52ThraeThat might be useful rather then updating each addon individually when, say, BC comes out and people get new ranks of spells.
06:39.32Tekcubuh, no thrae, but you could build one easily by scanning the spellbook's tooltips
06:39.41Tekcubanyway, dinner and Naruto-furry time
06:39.43Tekcubbbiab
06:39.50Tekcubif not bbtomorrow
06:40.01TekcubD, welcome to hell
06:40.05Tekcubyou'll like it here
06:40.07Tekcub^^
06:40.59Dsanailol
06:43.20DsanaiMinimalist auto-sells greys to vendors, doesn't let you destroy in the field.
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06:43.53haste2xL58 mobs > my shaman
06:43.54haste:-(
06:45.38ZiconHmm. There is no PT set for the Green Hills of Stranglethorn pages? I could really use that...
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06:57.33Kyahxhaste: L62+ mob < my priest :P
06:57.49Kyahxbwahaha
06:57.51hastemy shamans shocks hit for 500!
06:57.55hasteand my melee hits for 100!
06:57.57Kyahx>.>
06:58.03hasteevery 3 sec!
06:58.06KyahxMy dot can tick for 500, lol
06:58.22hastemy shaman uses cloth also, so it takes lots and lots of damage :p
06:58.28Kyahxhaha, nice
06:58.43hasteit also doesn't have a single talent point that increases damage
06:59.34ThraeIf you wanted to be a gimp but heal good, you should have just made a Druid ;)
06:59.55hasteyes, 'cause I knew about that 1.5 years ago :p
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07:00.10ThraeAhhh, heh
07:00.19KyahxPriests > All :P
07:00.24ThraeOoo I broke CorkFu
07:00.38Kyahxespecially those damn'd undead ones
07:00.39hasteI'm most likely changing main anyway so :p
07:00.55Kyahxwhat're you changeing too?
07:01.00Kyahxrouge?
07:01.09ThraeDruids are really a lot of fun, if you don't mind being underpowered
07:01.22KyahxThrae: I prefer to be overpowered kthx
07:01.29Kyahx:P  tick tick tick dead, bwahahaha
07:01.38hasteKyahx: most likely
07:01.46hasterogue or warlock
07:01.50gnorlishbleh haste
07:01.51gnorlishbleh
07:01.52hastenot sure which one I will use
07:02.05KyahxI'm not a big fan of my rogue =/
07:02.07gnorlishdo you raid in a 40-man environment?
07:02.15hasteyes
07:02.32gnorlishtalk to your warlocks, my guild's don't have much fun
07:03.12hastewe have enough warlock atm
07:03.18hasteand we are dropping a warlock slot
07:03.40Kyahxrouges are only fun if you have decent gear.  I loved what I played on test, but I hate my actuall rouge
07:04.16CairennFISKER_Q: so, I must have missed your answer ... where did you see the info on mounts?
07:05.20hasteKyahx: well, I can get decent gear on my rogue, so that's not a problem
07:05.29KyahxI cant =/
07:05.50KyahxIm pretty much stuck with my priest, heh
07:09.01FISKER_QCairenn gamespot
07:09.07ThraeTekcub: ping
07:09.14FISKER_Qgonna find the link
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07:09.49FISKER_Qhttp://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraftexp1/news.html?sid=6155696
07:10.25Thraecladhaire: g'morning / evening
07:13.00CairennFISKER_Q: thanks
07:13.07Tekcubwhat thrae?
07:15.23ThraeTekcub: Logged in with only CorkFu + Fubar enabled, and it's saying my Level 11 Druid needs MoTW when he already has it. I'm regressing revisions as we speak.
07:15.56Tekcubfun, cork broke on me completely tonight
07:16.03TekcubI'll try to tinker tomorrow
07:16.08Tekcubmore TV, bbl
07:18.27CIA-1103hk2717 * r7767 10BigWigs/BossBlock.lua: BigWigs: A lot of update to zhCN localizaition.
07:21.12CIA-1103hk2717 * r7768 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: A lot of update to zhCN localizaition.
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07:28.11ckknight_someone should port CommandHistory to Ace2
07:28.32hastelike the author?
07:35.10CIA-1103kemayo * r7770 10FuBar_ToFu/ (FuBar_ToFu.toc ToFu.lua ToFuLocals.lua lib/): FuBar_ToFu: Update for FuBar2. No functionality changed yet.
07:35.51ThraeCorkFu is broken entirely
07:36.01ThraeThis is very odd.
07:38.06CIA-1103kemayo * r7771 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Typo - remove a ,.
07:39.02CIA-1103kemayo * r7772 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Forgot to remove :RegisterForLoad.
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07:57.27Kyahxodd, oCD seems to think that my potions timer is vampiric embrace...
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08:00.34Norquehello
08:05.04SoltanisHi
08:05.55Norqueahh, someone else is awake!
08:06.36KemayoI'm awake.  I'm just thinking of data structures.  ;_;
08:07.03Norqueeww
08:07.21whoughtonI'm awake, but currently shifted into javascript mode :-/
08:07.39hasteI'm also awake
08:09.35CIA-1103thrae * r7773 10VzScript/VzScript.lua: VzScript - Fixed Combat thingie
08:09.46Norquewell... maybe one of you awake folks can help me out
08:12.40NorqueIm trying to make a class that inherits from another, and can do AceEvent stuff... if that made any sense :S
08:12.52Kyahxhaste: does oCB2 have an options table yet?
08:13.00hasteit doesn't
08:13.07Kyahxbut all the features are there right?
08:13.19hastethink so
08:13.19Kyahxhmmm
08:15.34CIA-1103thrae * r7774 10/branches/Combatotron/Combatotron.lua: Combatotron - Will now tell me if a pattern is actually used.
08:16.30hastethe SVN version doesn't contain everything
08:16.55hasteI'll most likely commit a version later today tho'
08:17.02hastesince I'm tired of people complaining
08:18.53[Ammo]morning
08:19.06[Ammo]thrae: you were looknig for me a few hours ago/
08:20.40Kyahxhaste: Well I was thinking about doing the options table myself if you didn't mind :)  Its easy enough and less work for you to get it "usable"
08:21.13hasteKyahx: feel free, I'll just merge it with my local later today and complete it
08:21.26Kyahxwell, its 3am here, I'm going to bed :P
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08:21.31Thrae[Ammo]: Just wanted to know how oRA2 was coming along, if I should switch to it yet from regular oRA.
08:21.32Kyahxtomarrow afternoon I will thou
08:21.51[Ammo]thrae: you are just about the 10th person asking me this
08:22.00[Ammo]and I'll give you the same answer I give everyone: when it's done.
08:22.11[Ammo]still toying around with a lot of stuff on it
08:22.22[Ammo]drycoding tons etc
08:22.29ThraeOK, that was the answer I was looking for ;)
08:22.45[Ammo]still need to convert 4 modules
08:22.48ThraeErm, that was the type of response I was looking for...bah me and my wording
08:22.48Kyahx|afknight all
08:22.57[Ammo]and do a complete rewrite of the maintankframes module
08:23.02[Ammo]because icetrain's isn't pretty
08:23.22[Ammo]things will probably speed up if 1.12 hits the street early ;)
08:23.23Kyahx|afk[Ammo]: I'm assumeing my FuBar menu won't be need for oRA2?
08:23.40Kyahx|afkor is that something I should think about?
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08:24.58[Ammo]won't be needed
08:25.05Kyahx|afkdidn't think so
08:25.08[Ammo]will all be dealt with automaticaly
08:25.47Kyahx|afkok, now im going to bed
08:25.49Kyahx|afknight all
08:31.32[Ammo]hmm is there a reason in aceconsole that if you have a type="text" one group deep aka: /myaddon test where the test = type="text" that it requires a 'get' but when you're 2 groups deep: /myaddon subthing test it doesn't?
08:31.47[Ammo]kinda annoying me :)
08:32.05[Ammo]since I don't want to define empty get = things the whole time
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08:40.39Worfmorning fellow addicts
08:42.50Norquegood morning
08:54.13CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r7775 10oRA2/oRA2/ (Leader/Durability.lua Leader/Item.lua oRA2.toc): oRA2: durability leader module drycoded
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09:01.34CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r7776 10oRA2/oRA2/Leader/Durability.lua: oRA2: usual drycoding mistakes fixed.
09:04.03FISKER_Qheh
09:04.08FISKER_Qidea for expansion: grouped debuffs
09:04.19FISKER_QThey're raising the debuff limit to 40
09:05.12Soltanisthats miles too late :-( /cry
09:12.30Worf40 debuffs?? hell... what UnitFrame should handle this properly? :D
09:12.41Worfthat needs to be grouped
09:14.08[Ammo]where does it say they're raising the debuff limit?
09:15.23whoughtonthe expansion articles that came out
09:16.02whoughtonhttp://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraftexp1/news.html?sid=6155696&tag=topslot;action;1&page=1&q=&q=
09:16.20whoughtonhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general&T=9468079&P=2
09:16.35whoughtonhttp://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3152830
09:16.38whoughtonsomewhere in those
09:17.10[Ammo]yyeah
09:17.13[Ammo]25m raids
09:17.13[Ammo]beh
09:17.23[Ammo]anyway gotta go
09:17.33[Ammo]2 hours of training to do to visit bday :)
09:17.33whoughtonlater
09:17.35[Ammo]~
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10:21.19NeronixMorning
10:26.16whoughtonafternoon neronix
10:26.54CIA-1103neronix * r7777 10MobHealth/ (MobHealth.toc MobHealth3.lua changelog.txt):
10:26.55CIA-11MobHealth3
10:26.55CIA-11- Comment tweak
10:26.55CIA-11- Updated changelog and metadata for 3.1.1 release
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10:41.11CIA-1103neronix * r7778 10MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames/MH3_Blizzard.lua:
10:41.11CIA-11MobHealth3: Blizzard Frames
10:41.11CIA-11- Health text now shows up when the target is dead
10:41.11CIA-11- How was this implemented sans problems? Ask the pirates!
10:41.11CIA-11"Captain! I see LAND!"
10:41.11CIA-11"That's no land, matey, that's a BIG DIRTY HACK!"
10:41.15CIA-11- Well, TargetDeadText:SetText() doesn't really count as a hack tbh
10:41.43NeronixUntested of course
10:43.22NeronixAnd rev 7777 GET
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10:45.52Industrialmorning
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10:46.04IndustrialI see work has been done on visor :o what happened? ^^
10:46.11MikkBoing!
10:46.11Mikkhttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceComm-2.0_peer-to-peer_proposal
10:47.03Shyvablizzard sucks, wtf, why no more 40 man instances?!
10:48.58Mikkbecause they're boring as hell?
10:49.11Mikkyay for more 5 man and 10 man content
10:49.15Mikkpreferably insanely hard
10:49.27Shyvait will be all freaking casual crap
10:49.38Shyvayou think ubrs is fun? no wai, naxx > ubrs
10:50.06gnorlishthat's a bit of an apples and oranges comparison
10:50.27Shyvanot really, ubrs is 15 man endgame
10:50.35Shyva*10 now..
10:50.41gnorlishubrs was developed and designed years ago
10:50.47Shyvaso was MC
10:50.51gnorlishand MC is crap too
10:50.52MikkMC is equally boring :-P
10:50.54Shyvastill mc is more fun then ubrs
10:51.02gnorlishbwl is mainly crap
10:51.10Shyvablizzard just tries to remove all current friendship :-/
10:51.14MikkBwl has some challenges though, skill wise
10:52.02Shyvaanyways... this proves the fact that whining does work.. just becuase 40 man raiders whine not enough, they now remove it :-X
10:52.05MikkI'd like to see ideas like that, and like nax, translated into 5 and 10 mans
10:52.15MikkREMOVE? hardly
10:52.29MikkBut there's a huge chunk of player population that doesn't want to do 40mans
10:52.33Mikk(and some just plain can't)
10:52.46MikkI think it's a good thing that they're giving them some new stuff too
10:52.53Shyvamost people want free epix Mikk, they'll whine about this being to hard for them...
10:52.59gnorlishit's actually pretty hard to put together 40 skilled players
10:52.59Mikkhaha
10:53.08gnorlishmy guild has 15-20 carrying the other 20-25
10:53.12gnorlishand it's the same way for most
10:53.14Mikksame, basically
10:53.14Shyvabut why screw over all 40 man guilds? I just don't get it
10:53.16NeronixI don't necessarily care about loots
10:53.28NeronixShyva: multiple raiding teams going in the same night
10:53.30gnorlishi can't wait to dump the crappy players on their asses
10:53.43Mikki'd love to go instancing with only skilled players again
10:53.45ShyvaI want to play with my friends, not just chat with my friends Neronix
10:53.49NeronixInstead of having 40 people go in an instance and 10 left behind being bored, you have 2 25man teams going
10:54.00Mikk5 10mans
10:54.08NeronixYeah
10:54.20Mikkit also gets more flexible
10:54.23Shyvameh, anyways.. not going to buy BC, really dislike this :-/
10:54.28Mikki can go instancing in the middle of the night to 5 and 10mans
10:54.33Mikkcan't go do nax when i feel like it
10:54.49Mikkeach to his own. i like it =)
10:54.51NeronixNow, what I want is more stuff for pugs
10:55.12NeronixI dunno if I can ever be able to stick to a schedule with school coming up soon
10:55.16Shyvaeverything will be pugable I guess, else people will whine more
10:55.24NeronixI doubt it
10:55.32Mikkactually, those ideas i heard about with toggleable difficulty would do it
10:55.35Mikkpug in easymode
10:55.39Mikkget epix in hard-ass mode
10:55.47Mikkpeople can't really whine that way =)
10:55.49Shyvabut then they still whine about not getting epix :-/
10:55.55NeronixFrom what I understand there will be 5/10 mans for pugs and 10/25 mans for the organised skilled guilds
10:56.00Mikkaye but the simple answer then is "get bloody better then" :-P
10:56.19Shyvabut they won't understand that
10:56.31NeronixIllidan being pugable? Do you seriously think that?
10:56.42Mikkheh, hardly
10:56.43Shyvaif this is all true, yea
10:56.44gnorlishit should only be 18 months for them to work out all the horribly imbalances they will implement with the new talent trees
10:56.48gnorlishwe should come back in 2 years
10:57.00NeronixIllidan's for the skilled organised guilds
10:57.34Mikkanyway... my point is.. when did we last see puggable additions to the game?
10:57.35Mikkdire maul?
10:57.40NeronixYeah
10:57.45Mikkthat's kinda ... long ago
10:57.46NeronixIt's about friggin time we had more
10:57.57FISKER_Qi think the 25 man raids will screw people up :o
10:58.10Shyvaadd some bug stuff imo, but don't screw many guilds in the game..
10:58.49NeronixHow does this screw big guilds?
10:59.02ShyvaI play with 39 friends, not with 24
10:59.23NeronixI see
10:59.28gnorlishdo you really have 39 friends you play with
10:59.28FISKER_Qcause i think it will be troubling making 2 raids instead of just 1
10:59.30gnorlishthat's nuts
10:59.38MikkFISKER_Q: we're already doing it with 20man instances
10:59.42Mikkhow is this hard?
10:59.43gnorlishi don't even have 39 friends
10:59.43ShyvaI like nearly all people in my guild gnorlish
10:59.44gnorlishat all
11:00.28MikkKinda fun to have a group going all damn day and just totter around in 20man places, people coming and going all along =)
11:00.29FISKER_QWell the 25man instances will be the new endgame
11:00.33NeronixI hope they add easier stuff like ZG and AQ20 as well
11:00.33FISKER_QZG and AQ20 are pre-mc
11:00.40Neronixfor the lesser skilled/more casual guilds
11:00.51ShyvaI think blizzard just want all raiders to go play Vanguard, so they don't need to add hard instances
11:01.05MikkI'm not so sure about ZG and AQ20 being pre-mc, tbh
11:01.07MikkGear wise, yes
11:01.10MikkSkill wise? Um, no,
11:01.30Neronix(Well, that's what I was told)
11:01.30FISKER_QThus as there is focus on getting endgame we would have problems with the amount people willing to go there
11:01.51FISKER_Qperhaps we only have 45 people who want to go
11:01.58FISKER_Qenough for a 40 man raid
11:02.05FISKER_Qnot enough for 2x25 man
11:02.32FISKER_Qwhich means almost a raid will be put into rotation
11:02.48Mikkbeh. just get a few more
11:03.13FISKER_Qthe same could be said with more 40 man raids
11:03.25Shyvalike it's easy to get a few more skilled players on server which exist since the game started, everyone is guilded there Mikk
11:03.33FISKER_Qwhy not just get 20-30 more people and run instances with 2 teams
11:03.43FISKER_Qand when we have a surplus on the second team lets make a third
11:03.48FISKER_Qjust requires 30-40 more people
11:04.00MikkShyva: So when someone quits the game (which surely has happened by now), you had to stop raiding?
11:04.20Shyvawe've had loads of problems getting anough people last weeks yes
11:04.29MikkYup, we all go through that
11:04.41MikkThen some guild breaks apart and all problems are solved =)
11:06.31Shyvalol, blizz has just shut down the forums to prevent people from whining I guess
11:06.47FISKER_Qor for putting in the new forums
11:07.14NeronixFor me, if it's fun, I'm happy
11:07.15Shyvameh, then it would be announced on the main website
11:07.41NeronixIf there's actually content at lv70 for people who have unpredictable schedules, I'm happy
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11:08.02FISKER_Qwell i know that on the EU forums they said they would be moving the forums soon
11:08.18Shyvathis is the reason for me to switch to either Vanguard, or lotr online
11:08.23Industrialon the instance thingy
11:08.35Industrialcant they just add more and harder mobs depending on how tought the palyers are
11:08.36Industrial?
11:08.39Industriallike in diablo..
11:08.47NeronixThat's part of the plan
11:08.47Industrialtough*
11:08.55Industrialwell whats there to whine
11:08.59[Liquidor]Woot are you guys talking about?
11:09.02Industrial:P
11:09.08Shyvaso you think a boss like Nefarian should be able to be pug-able Industrial?
11:09.11NeronixYou go into an instance at lv62, easier, blues, etc.
11:09.20IndustrialShyva, I dont raid so I have no idea
11:09.25NeronixShyva: It's not going to work like that
11:09.38whoughtonNef is puggable, C'Thun is not
11:09.40[Liquidor]We got PUGs for BWL/MC/AQ40/AQ20/ZG/ONY at our realm
11:09.48NeronixBig guys like Illidan and whatever are for the organised and skilled guilds
11:09.53Shyvayeah, but not with random blues
11:10.00NeronixLittler guys who we've never heard of are for pugs
11:10.26ShyvaYeah, guilds which had to dump alot of their good friends, becuase blizz doesn't give any content they can raid together
11:11.40FISKER_Qdynamic difficulity wouldn't fix that
11:11.41NeronixAnd by the way, I believe SOE are in control of Vanguard
11:11.55FISKER_Qunless they intend it to be easy epics
11:12.03ShyvaSOE, what's that Neronix?
11:14.10NeronixSony Online Entertainment
11:14.27NeronixThey have a bad habait of ruining things
11:14.39FISKER_Qindeed
11:14.42FISKER_Qthey ruined my first love
11:14.46Shyvaoh yea, the bought it indeed
11:14.53FISKER_QPlanetside was my first MMO :(
11:14.59FISKER_Qthey totally screwed it over
11:15.12Shyvaanarchy online is the first one I played
11:15.17Shyvadidn't like it really
11:15.42FISKER_Qwell i played AO to but i ditched it after beta cause i didn't like it either :P
11:15.59Shyva^^
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11:21.32NeronixGrr, hung on login
11:22.32IndustrialFISKER_Q unless they intend it to be easy epics
11:22.40Industrialthe epicswould just fall from harder mobs
11:22.54Industrialnot better epics would fall :P
11:23.29FISKER_Qexactly
11:23.33Industrialthat way the epics keep their value because its hard to get them no matter how good you are
11:23.34FISKER_QAnd then what would that accomplish?
11:23.53Industrialmore skill involved
11:23.57FISKER_QCause then your friend would still need to find a better group of people to get better equipment
11:23.59FISKER_Qjust like now
11:24.20Industrialwhy?
11:24.25Industrialwhy cant he just go in with you?
11:25.09FISKER_Qif you're not skilled enough
11:25.20Industrialwell poo on you
11:25.30oxmanI like the new way of BC
11:25.33Industrialif you cant do it go play another game
11:25.34oxmanno more instance at 40 :D
11:25.35Industrial:P
11:26.19FISKER_Q(13:08:25) <Shyva> Yeah, guilds which had to dump alot of their good friends, becuase blizz doesn't give any content they can raid together
11:26.22FISKER_Qit was a response to that
11:26.46IndustrialI dont really understand what you are trying to say. Whats the url to that article?
11:27.09FISKER_QO_o?
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11:27.45Industrialwhere did you get this no more 40 man raid information
11:27.57Shyvaforums, blizz post + 3 articels
11:28.03oxmanhttp://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3152830
11:28.09oxmanhttp://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraftexp1/news.html?sid=6155696&tag=topslot;action;1&page=1&q=&q=
11:28.14FISKER_Qi don't think it will be "no more 40 man"
11:28.18FISKER_Qit will be "focus on 25 man"
11:29.54oxmanMolten Core. Blackwing Lair. The Temple of Ahn'Qiraj. Naxxramas Necropolis. And nothing else. Looking ahead to Blizzard's expansion for World of Warcraft, Burning Crusade, the aforementioned instanced raids will be the last of Blizzard's 40-man raid content. In Burning Crusade, end game raiding (which occupies WoW's max level players) will be done in groups of 25 or 10.
11:29.55oxman:p
11:30.16FISKER_Qoh
11:30.23Shyvanoy focus, "nothing else"
11:30.25FISKER_Qthe gamespot article didn't mention it would be max 25
11:30.26Shyva*not
11:30.33FISKER_Qbut only that it would be focus on 25
11:30.38oxmanthe us forums are down
11:30.40oxmanso i wait
11:30.54Shyva"It's true, the plan is for five-player capped grouped dungeons. Ten-player capped raid dungeons. As well as Twenty-five-player capped epic raid dungeons." is what Eyonix said
11:31.10FISKER_Qimo they should reevaluate each 40 man dungeon and make it 25man
11:31.24oxmanfrom gamespot :
11:31.25oxmanBurning Crusade's raid instances will be built for either 10- or 25-player raiding parties, rather than the standard 40-player raids
11:31.28oxmanthere is not doubt
11:31.44FISKER_Qthen i just smoked something while i read
11:31.48oxman;)
11:31.55oxmanpersonnaly i like this new way
11:32.07oxman40 members ready in your guild ? do an 25 / 10
11:32.11oxman50 ? an 25 / 25
11:32.14oxmanit's more flexible
11:32.25oxmanand i think the challenge will be better
11:32.40oxmanit's more easy to coordinate 25 members, so the instances will be very difficult
11:32.47Shyvaguilds like curse don't even have 50 members at all oxman
11:32.49FISKER_Qwell the 10man won't be an "epic raid" then
11:32.58oxmanif you have only 10 members
11:33.00oxmanyou can also raid
11:33.02oxmanit's awesome :)
11:33.12oxmanFISKER_Q depend of the instance ;p
11:33.20oxmanremember the story of wow
11:33.28oxmanmost of epic quest will be done with a single man
11:33.29FISKER_QI agree, i think that the game have been built too much around 40man content that it'll be difficult to change again
11:33.29oxman:D
11:33.36FISKER_Qheh
11:33.50FISKER_Qthat's why i think they should reevaluate the current dungeons
11:34.02oxmanI think not
11:34.08oxmanbecause it's lots of work for nothing
11:34.11oxmandon't forget the level 70
11:34.23oxmanMC can be down with 10 players level 70
11:34.26oxmanaccording to gm
11:34.41oxmanI think Naxx to with 25 members
11:34.45oxmantoo
11:35.06FISKER_QWell they still intend MC, BWL, AQ40, Naxx to be how people progress with the expansion,
11:35.31FISKER_Qso new players would still do MC, then BWL, AQ40 and/or Naxx
11:35.45FISKER_Qbut then they would have to get used to a 40 man cap to then convert to a 25 man
11:35.47[Liquidor]Jeez you guys talk bullshit too much
11:35.55[Liquidor]If you don't like the game as it is, don't play the game !
11:36.00FISKER_Qbullshit is good
11:36.23FISKER_QObviously blind obedience is always best
11:36.36FISKER_Qany kind of discussion is bad
11:36.39FISKER_Qdown with free speech
11:36.40FISKER_Qetc.
11:36.54[Liquidor]Don't even start it FISKER_Q, cause I really really don't care about your oppenions ;) I repeat, if you don't like the game, don't play it
11:37.25[Liquidor]And your way of speaking and saying "Obviously blind obedience is always best" doesn't make it.
11:37.26oxman:p
11:37.37FISKER_QYeah and obviously i don't really care about you
11:37.39FISKER_Qas a person that is
11:37.49[Liquidor]Now... does Transcriptor use Ace or Ace2?
11:38.11Shyvaace
11:38.27[Liquidor]Okay, planning on making one with ace2?
11:39.12Shyvamaybe someone is, maybe not
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11:54.27Solehi
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12:03.13NeronixThrae: Combatotron hangs me on login/reload
12:08.04FtH|eagleGot the same problem with the new parserlib. And I found out that the problem is related to AceEvent_EventUnregistered
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12:09.35evlHi, I'm having some problems navigating the docs so I'd thought maybe someone here knew: I'm trying to override/disable the default behaviour of FrameXML\BonusActionbBarFrame.lua:BonusActionBar_OnEvent
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12:11.07NeronixHook it
12:12.04evlFound it, I'll give that a try
12:12.28evlBTW; is there a way to avoid having to restard WoW everytime I add a new file/dir to AddOns?
12:12.54NeronixSadly, no
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12:14.21evlwow, that's... a PITA :D
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12:15.47CIA-1103erwanoops * r7780 10BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_NefCount.lua: BigWigs_NefCount: added french translation
12:16.04evlCan I hook to a nil function?
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12:16.43NeronixWhy would you want to hook something that doesn't exist?
12:17.00oxmanHe wants hijack wow
12:17.00oxman;p
12:17.29evlBecause BonusActionBar_OnEvent runs a timed animation I don't wnat
12:21.54evlusing self:Hook("ShowBonusActionBar") yields a stack overflow actually, is the original function called when hooking?
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12:23.09evlAh, nevermind got it working now :)
12:23.46evlLast question from the hopeless newb: is there an easier way in Ace to detect a player buff other than looping 0 to 15 over GetPlayerBuff and checking the texture?
12:23.52ShyvaAnyone here got some experience with AceTab?
12:24.21ShyvaNopes, no tooltip scanning features in Ace, you can use visors code tho
12:24.54evlI'd rather keep my addons small :)
12:25.05evlif it's not in the standard Ace libs I don't want it :D
12:25.12Shyvavisors scanning function is really smal..
12:25.33evlMy IsStealthed is 5 lines so I guess i can hack it
12:25.56evlBeen fiddeling around this morning with the obscure fact that if you hide the MainMenuBar and then go stealth it fails to hide the bonus action bar when unstealthing again
12:30.45evlIs it just me or is the svn server slower than slow`
12:31.24Worfevl: as long as it's not reversing direction of your connection...
12:31.36Shyvait's not slow evl
12:32.32Worfevl: doin a update now, feels fine...
12:33.17evli'm on 25mbit from norway and it's at like 5k/s
12:33.36Worfevl: that's fast... i remember days when i had like 5b/s
12:33.47evlhehe :)
12:33.50evlfast is 2mb/s
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12:35.23Soltaniswhy would you want 2mb/s to download 10kb text file?
12:36.01Shyvabesides, it's not only downloading stuff.. it's also checking stuff for revision number, takes time too
12:36.17evlI noticed that when checking out the entire trunk :)
12:36.31Shyvadon't do that?
12:39.02Solewhy the hell would you do that?
12:39.27Solethats a couple hundred addons
12:39.37Shyvaidd... and clad doesn't like it, read the forums
12:39.43Worfwell, to carefully read through every single codeline of everything we have in trunc, and fixing bugs, etc..
12:40.04Shyvayou got svn.wowace.com/root/ to do that worf
12:40.07Solef.Text:SetFont("FRIZQT__.TTF",11,"THICKOUTLINE")     << I take it im doing something wrong here because its not working
12:40.59WorfShyva: well, for fixing stuff a checkout is better i guess :)
12:41.27evlThis is 2006, checking out 200 projects should be a breezer
12:41.39Shyvawhy? you check which file was wrong, check that file out, fix it commit it
12:41.50WorfShyva: ok
12:42.03Shyvait's just bullshit to check out the entire trunk
12:42.14Shyvaevl, you aren't using every wowace addon, right?
12:42.32evlno but I like searching through them learning by example
12:42.56Shyvathen you better use the link I just said, better for the svn
12:43.03Worfevl: well, you're right. you're absolutely right... i guess the server needs to be replaced by something adequate... i assume you have one to spare? :)
12:43.18evlI actually have
12:43.26evlbut it's behind a big rack at my old workplace
12:43.29evlmy Level 60 Rogue box
12:43.37evlnobody knows its there ;)
12:43.41Tupladevl: clad is gonna be mad :)
12:44.26evlCan't you just get an SVN at Sourceforge or similar?
12:44.40Tupladdont download whole trunk :<
12:44.50evl"don't search google 1000 times over"
12:45.05Shyvaidd, it's easy to not do that, even Tuplad understands to not do that :-X
12:45.05Tuplad:/
12:45.16Tuplad~whalestab Shyva
12:45.35purlACTION stabs Shyva with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
12:45.35evlShyva: how can I search through all the files in the SVN with this provided URL?
12:45.43Tupladevl: you dont. you go to an addon, you click it, you click again, you find lua file, you click you read
12:45.54ShyvaExactly
12:46.16Tupladclad said he'll be banning IPs soon, kekz
12:47.35evlokay, so say I want to figure out how people process a say PLAYER_AURA_CHANGED even
12:47.46Tupladwww.wowwiki.com
12:47.46evlhow would you proceed in that fashion finding an addon that does that?
12:47.58Shyva^ what tup said
12:48.00Solewww.wowwiki.com
12:48.08SoleEvents API
12:48.24Shyvawowwiki is the best source for the wow api
12:48.24Tuplad^ what shyva said
12:48.26Tupladeven I figured some stuff out :>
12:48.31ShyvaxD
12:48.52evlWow, that gives me a great long description but actually no implementation what so ever
12:48.55Tupladevl: I bet you update the whole trunk everyday as well, dont ya ?
12:49.20evlYeah, alongside Gentoo and the Linux kernel
12:49.29Tuplad-_-
12:49.31evlOf course I don't.
12:49.37evlI just update the ones i'm running
12:51.15evlI'm just saying: WoWWiki is a great place to find the event names, but it doesn't say shit about what to do inside the function body, in that example there is no reference to GetPlayerBuffs() and GetBuffTexture() which is the only way I've seen so far to detect a buff, solution? check out ALL Ace addons and perform a text search and find the best practice.
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12:52.08Tupladwell ...
12:52.18TupladGetPlayerBuffs() and GetBuffTexture() - I bet you can find that in ElkBuffBar
12:52.38NeronixSomeone responded to my request for Skeeve not to borg MH3 into MI2
12:52.40Neronix"Nerox, you got some cheek."
12:52.45NeronixA) My name is not Nerox
12:52.52NeronixB) I hate it when people call me Nerox
12:53.01NeronixC) as ckknight would put it... fuck you, guy
12:53.20Tupladno Neronix
12:53.26Andalia_link please ;)
12:53.32Neronixhttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1143
12:53.38TupladAMAGAD FLAMEWARZZ!!!
12:53.54Neronix~literal emulate ckknight
12:53.58purl"emulate ckknight" is "<action> quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))"
12:54.23Tuplad-_
12:54.31Neronixpurl: no, emulate ckknight is (<action> quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))|<reply>fuck you, guy)
12:54.32purlNeronix: please, watch your language.
12:54.38Neronixpurl: no, emulate ckknight is (<action> quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))|<reply>f*ck you, guy)
12:54.40purlNeronix: okay
12:55.19Tuplad~emulate ckknight_
12:55.21Tupladugh
12:55.26Tuplad~emulate ckknight
12:55.28purlACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
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12:59.12Tupladhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1861.0.html well, that's neat
13:03.37ag`Neronix, what?
13:03.59ag`cliffnotes on MI2 :P
13:04.35ag`cladhaire,
13:04.37ag`you here?
13:06.36Neronixag`?
13:09.23CIA-1103uruloke * r7782 10ArcHUD2/ (9 files in 3 dirs):
13:09.23CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
13:09.24CIA-11- Fixed combat status not properly affecting alpha on rings
13:09.24CIA-11- Changed debugging to use debug levels
13:09.24CIA-11- Added locale font setting
13:09.24CIA-11- Added zhCN locale
13:13.43ag`Neronix, just wanted to know what the deal was with MI :P
13:15.34CIA-1103ag * r7783 10/branches/Pubcrawl/Pubcrawl.toc:
13:15.34CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
13:15.34CIA-11<PROTECTED>
13:19.18Solehmm
13:19.30SoleWowwiki is so helpful sometimes...the example they give DOESNT WORK
13:21.33Urulokeyeah, that MiniRaid thing is really cool
13:24.46oxmanSole  you can edit the example
13:24.46oxman;)
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13:26.05Soleoxman: I just got it working for myself :P
13:28.04oxman:p
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13:34.36Kaeltengreetings
13:34.41Solehai
13:35.52CIA-1103uruloke * r7784 10ArcHUD2/Core.lua:
13:35.52CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
13:35.52CIA-11- Fixed error with target nameplate
13:38.53vhaarr[Ammo]: did you see the new ragnaros code I elegantly ninjaed from your fankriss changes?
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13:40.02Shyvabetter put sons death in a local instead of self, should be faster :)
13:40.53vhaarrwhy is that?
13:46.52vhaarrI wonder what's up with my fubar latelt, hm
13:47.28vhaarrlately
13:50.07vhaarrAnyone else experiencing problems like getting 2-3 FuBar panels even if you only had 1, and plugins moving all over?
13:51.36TainDisable plugin overflow vhaarr, that should stop it.
13:51.55vhaarrah
13:54.03vhaarrag`: you around?
13:54.57vhaarrTain: thanks alot, that fixed it
13:57.59ag`yes yes
13:59.02ag`ok
13:59.04vhaarrag`: sorry about those changes to ag_UF, they were just bothering me too much .. I wanted to ask you but you were afk.
13:59.11ag`huh?
13:59.13TupladCIA-11: ag * r7783 /branches/Pubcrawl/Pubcrawl.toc:
13:59.13TupladCIA-11: ag_UnitFrames -
13:59.21vhaarrag`: I did some last night
13:59.21TupladagUF in Pubcrawl ? maza kek!
13:59.47vhaarrag`: probably not the best code, I was coding it while playing
13:59.49ag`Tuplad, just me mixing up the commit message
14:00.16Tupladoh :>
14:01.10vhaarrag`: there's another thing I wanted to ask; how do you sort the group members?
14:01.27vhaarrag`: if I press F1-5, they are not targetted in the same order they are positioned
14:01.28ag`vhaarr, look at the code in the bottom of unitclass lua
14:01.45vhaarrag`: possible to fix that?
14:02.03ag`maybe
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14:02.09vhaarrI find F1-5 mildly convenient as a healer and use them sometimes
14:02.10ag`the problem is that I am not very good at table stuff
14:02.14vhaarrkind of hard when they're not in that order
14:02.39ag`It's because players gets added to the group in a random order
14:02.51vhaarrright
14:03.00ag`that can't be changed
14:03.06ag`so I would need some sorting
14:03.38ag`that should happen in function aUF.classes.aUFgroup.prototype:Update()
14:03.41ag`line 1488
14:03.53ag`I just suck at coding that so I would need some help
14:07.52vhaarrthat's line 1493 for me :)
14:07.58vhaarrag`: did you svn update to get my changes?
14:08.14ag`I probably need to
14:08.37ag`what did you change in the defaults file?
14:08.45vhaarrmages cure curses, not diseases
14:08.54oxman;)
14:09.10ag`that doesn't have anything to do with the defaults :P
14:10.34vhaarrI didn't change the defaults file
14:10.44vhaarrlast modified 4 days ago
14:10.56vhaarrhttp://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/browse/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/
14:11.10vhaarroO error in oRA_Core
14:12.07ag`ah yes
14:21.05vhaarrag`: you know what would *rock* for pubcrawl? bar snapping
14:21.27ag`perhaps yes
14:21.37ag`just not sure you move them around so much that you need it
14:21.46vhaarrbartender1 has it, but of course it's not on the svn any more
14:21.52vhaarrag`: what do you mean?
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14:22.05vhaarrag`: the point is that when you move them close to eachother, you're sure to get them aligned
14:22.07ag`I move my frames once in place then and then forget about it for the rest ofmy life
14:22.18Amadeoag`: That's a long time
14:22.35ag`yes
14:22.52Temmorning guys
14:23.04AmadeoMorning Tem
14:23.41vhaarrmorning
14:26.16AmadeoI had the strangest thing happen to me in WSG last night
14:26.21AmadeoMy character is a raid boss now
14:26.31Amadeoer sorry, it was AB
14:26.57AmadeoAfter the BG ended, my character became computer controlled, and I started summoning things
14:27.22eternally777leet hax?
14:27.30AmadeoI dunno
14:27.44ag`sure it just wasn't a bug with engineering mind control
14:28.02eternally777Are you a warlock?  Because summoning things doesn't sound that strange then.
14:28.08AmadeoI'm a Warrior
14:28.15eternally777Yeah...
14:28.16Amadeoit was engineering stuff, ag`
14:28.22eternally777gg
14:28.24AmadeoI had like 30 Dragonlings and Battle Chickens
14:28.34Amadeobut nobody MC'd me
14:28.44Amadeothe BG just ended
14:29.55AmadeoI took a quick Fraps, but unfortunately every time I encode it, it's too dark or something
14:29.58Amadeoso I'm trying to find out why
14:30.48evlHmms, any Ace bars addon that uses the default bars? I'd like to use oCD but they only work with the standard bars. I've tried writing an addon that stops the regular BonusActionBarFrame from disabling the MainBar buttons but to no avail :(
14:30.58Amadeoevl: Bartender
14:31.55ag`omnicooldown? Those would seem to work with any actionbar addon that uses the cooldown "dail"
14:33.07AmadeoOmni CC is broken for me right now
14:33.15Amadeoit counts down to 1 or 0 randomly
14:33.32AmadeoSo you never really know when the cooldown is going to be up
14:33.38ag`anyway I built cooldown count into pubcrawl, based on ocd
14:33.51evlNot button cooldowns
14:33.56evloCD is a cooldown list
14:34.01evlI prefer to play without any bars
14:34.10oxmanoh.. really ?
14:34.13oxmanthat's sound good :)
14:34.15CIA-1103rabbit * r7785 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: Thaddius: Add sync'ing to Stalaggs Power Surge.
14:34.36oxmanI will look for oCD
14:34.41evlInspired by haste ;)
14:34.50oxmanbut how you do for potion N
14:34.51oxman?
14:34.58evlI have autobar as the only buttons
14:35.05evlAny ace'd version of that btw?
14:35.14ag`oCD only works with default blizzard bars?
14:35.37evlYes
14:35.42ag`it shouldn't, it's based off cooldowns in the spellbook
14:35.58evlTry it and see, you will have very stange results unless you use the default bars :)
14:36.10oxmanit's stupid :(
14:37.04evlwhat is?
14:37.18vhaarrTekcub: you there?
14:40.46CIA-1103rabbit * r7786 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: Core: Erm, for some reason people are getting an error that self.version is nil, fixing temporarily until Tekkub can shed some light.
14:44.01Industrialhttp://ace.pastey.net/211
14:44.05oxmanyou can't turn of the bg of ocd :[[
14:44.06IndustrialI'm doing something wrong here
14:44.14Industrialbut what
14:44.14Industrial:P
14:44.22Industrialthe problem: I dont get to see the 00000000
14:44.25CIA-1103rabbit * r7787 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: Thaddius: Sync power surge.
14:45.37Nightdewwhat is the addon that make the minimap square?
14:46.13Industrialsqueenix
14:48.14Nightdewthanks
14:49.15Tekcubyes var?
14:49.25Andalia_BigWigsCThun has a typo on line 377. It must be group instead of groupwarning
14:51.26CIA-1103shyva * r7788 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: BigWigs: fixed error on line 377
14:51.27ShyvaThanks Andalia_
14:51.41evloxman: /ocd lock
14:51.45evloxman: rtfm :)
14:52.08oxmani've change then .lua
14:52.08oxman;p
14:52.11AmadeoI love square minimaps, except for the fact that everything that goes around a minimap is still set to move as a circle :P
14:52.14oxmanthere is not manyal
14:52.17oxmanmanual
14:52.17oxman;p
14:52.18Amadeoso I just stick with the standard minimap
14:52.55Andalia_Shyva: My Guild nearly killed me because i wasn't able to broadcast groupwarnings ^^
14:52.58Tupladhttp://static.curse-gaming.com/mscreens/9838.jpg weirdest bars set up I've ever seen :O
14:53.14CIA-1103rabbit * r7789 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: Thaddius: Added power surge bar, 10 seconds.
14:53.18Shyvao.0 nice guys Andalia_
14:53.29Industrialnevermind my paste got it working
14:54.35vhaarrTekcub: why would self.version not be set?
14:54.43vhaarrTekcub: should be set from the TOC, right?
14:54.54Tekcubyes
14:55.00vhaarrwell it's not, for some reason
14:55.09vhaarrhe only has BW2, no other Ace or Ace2 addons
14:56.04Tekcubokey, I'll slip in a lil override to make sure
14:56.05TupladHow do warlocks get so much mana when they are pumping stamina :X ?
14:58.03evlWhen hooking a Blizzard standard action, does it still get run or just your hook?
14:58.12vhaarrTekcub: I just did, not sure if it's enough
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14:59.58oxmando you know something like autobar but for trinket ?
15:00.12[Liquidor]trinketbar?
15:00.39oxmanok thanks
15:00.54WobinTuplad: er. LifeTap
15:01.05oxmanhum only us :(
15:01.16[Liquidor]oxman, http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-929-1-trinketmenu.html
15:02.06TemTekcub, isn't using the toc to set the version a bad idea (if you're using $Revsision$ )
15:02.15oxmantrinketmenu
15:02.20oxmanyep [Liquidor] i've fount it
15:02.21oxmanthanks :)
15:02.21Wobinyou just have to edit it each time
15:02.43TekcubI'm not using the rev in the toc
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15:02.46Temk
15:02.47TupladWobinTuplad: er. LifeTap
15:02.49TupladWobin: I meant stats
15:02.52JoshBorkemorning
15:03.08TupladWobin: they run around with 350 stam and 210int yet they have more mana :\
15:04.02Wobinnight all =)
15:04.08[Liquidor]Night?
15:04.14TupladoO
15:04.16[Liquidor]Uhm btw, where is everyone from here?
15:04.20Tuplad17:05 here
15:04.25[Liquidor]17:04 here
15:04.30Tuplad-_-
15:04.44Wobin01:04 here
15:04.50CIA-1103tekkub * r7790 10BigWigs/ (AQ20/GeneralRajaxx.lua Core.lua):
15:04.50CIA-11BigWigs
15:04.50CIA-11- Tweaked the version thingy a tad
15:04.50CIA-11- Rajaxx should no longer re-activate if you kill Rajaxx and Shirty McShirtless survives
15:04.52WobinOz =)
15:05.01TupladWobin: australia ?
15:05.20Tain~ugt
15:05.24purlfrom memory, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
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15:05.24WobinAye, Sydney
15:05.43Tuplado_O well
15:07.24evlAaaaagh
15:07.36evlHad I known Hook also runs the original function I wouldn't have spent 2 hours on this shit :D
15:08.02Urulokeit does what?
15:08.39evlI've been trying to stop ShapeshiftBar_OnEvent from running but I've only killed it property by overriding it
15:09.08Urulokeooh
15:10.05evlProblem was the bonus action bar stops working if the main menu bar is hidden, but it kept disabling the main menu bar buttons even if it was hidden
15:10.14CIA-1103uruloke * r7791 10ArcHUD2/ (Core.lua Locale_enUS.lua):
15:10.14CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
15:10.14CIA-11- Added option to set debug level, overriding the default debug option
15:11.21vhaarrTekcub: cool, nice fix
15:11.52vhaarr[Liquidor]: you use BigWigs but not FuBar, right?
15:14.01Nightdewevl: isnt the definition of a hook just that?
15:14.16evlThe function still ran
15:14.19evleven if I hooked it
15:14.31Nightdewmy point is that a hook is getting hooked into a chain
15:14.50evlYes, I think I misunderstood that
15:14.55evlI wanted to stop it from running completely
15:15.01Nightdewa hook by definition should call the previous hook
15:15.07Nightdewthat is dangerous though
15:15.19Nightdewit will disable things you didnt even consider
15:15.25Nightdewfunctionality other people need?
15:15.59evlIt's just a mod for me for now
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15:17.01evlI have a macro that toggles the mainbar and art on and off but I still need the bindings working, problem was that BonusActionBar checks for IsVisible and if not it doesn't hide itself when you go out of stealth e.g, improvements welcome :P
15:17.20Nightdewshould look at bartended
15:17.25Nightdewbartender2 i think
15:17.41evlDoesn't work with oCD :)
15:17.45evlwhich is the core of my UI atm
15:17.50vhaarr[Liquidor]: nvm
15:17.57oxmani try to play without bar ;D
15:18.00Nightdewbartender2 are the bliz bars just adhusted
15:18.09oxmanI now lots of shortcut for my spell, but not all :D
15:18.09Nightdewwhy wouldnt it work?
15:18.12oxmanso i try
15:18.52evlNightdew: i get wierdo behaviour
15:19.07evlAnd as haste says in his post, only works with default bars and he's pretty right :P
15:20.38CIA-1103laric * r7792 10AoFHeal/ (13 files in 6 dirs):
15:20.39CIA-11Initial commit
15:20.39CIA-11--
15:20.39CIA-11Small healing addon partially aced with FuBar plugin
15:22.19Laricwhere do I find info on how to set externals?
15:23.16phyberKemayo: error on line 100 of ToFu.
15:23.23phybertext = string.format("??? (%s %s)", abacus:FormatDurationFull(self.timeFlown, false), self.loc.TEXT_SOFAR)
15:23.27phyberself.loc doesn't seem to exist ;)
15:23.47TekcubLaric, I find that program documentation and google are great places to find out how to do things
15:24.31Laric:)
15:25.28evlgoogle svn externals tutorial
15:27.22TainI just look at what someone else did before me.
15:28.08CIA-1103neolith * r7793 10FuBar_LockFu/ (LockFu.lua LockFuLocals.lua readme.txt): added check for Bongos and disabled Blizzard bar lock function in case it is loaded
15:28.33JoshBorkeok, bye all :-)
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15:30.28CIA-1103neolith * r7794 10FuBar_LockFu/ (FuBar_LockFu.toc LockFu.lua): forgot to change version number in lua and toc
15:31.17CIA-1103laric * r7795 10AoFHeal/Libs/: Fixing Externals
15:31.21TainI love this line, from a song.  "She's good for one day of comfort, only because she has suffered."
15:34.02CIA-1103laric * r7796 10AoFHeal/Libs/ (Compost-2.0/ Dewdrop-2.0/ FuBarPlugin-2.0/ Tablet-2.0/):
15:36.14CIA-1103laric * r7797 10AoFHeal/Libs/: More externals
15:36.48Sarozfeign death nolonger triggers UnitIsDead
15:36.48Sarozwtf
15:38.18oxmanso no more problem with addon don't understand fd ;)
15:38.43Sarozwell could just be my code being broken
15:39.21Saroznope, doesn't trigger it
15:39.21Sarozwtf
15:43.09CIA-1103tardmrr * r7798 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/ (5 files):
15:43.09CIA-11AceGUI-2.0: (untested additions)
15:43.09CIA-11<PROTECTED>
15:43.09CIA-11<PROTECTED>
15:43.55CIA-1103tardmrr * r7799 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/AceGUIButton-2.0.lua: AceGUI-2.0: added svn:keywords to new files
15:46.59[Liquidor]vhaarr, I actually just installed FuBar
15:47.18[Liquidor]And Transcriptor as well, however I don't see Transcriptor in my FuBar :|
15:48.09vhaarryou need FuBar-compat-1.2
15:48.23Sarozseriously, did they change FD? suddenly my detection isn't working at all, and UnitIsDead returns nil while they are FDing
15:49.56vhaarrit should return true
15:50.09Sarozit doesn't
15:50.25Sarozon "raid#"
16:01.14AmadeoI really hate Windows sometimes
16:01.25AmadeoI don't know why my GUI/Animation settings change themselves automatically
16:09.05vhaarr[Ammo]: you there?
16:09.20vhaarror hm, nevermind :P
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16:15.08ag`cladhaire, ?
16:16.08Temyay!
16:16.13TemOnLoad scripts work
16:17.16Shyvawill acegui-2.0 work the same as the old acegui?
16:17.22Temmostly
16:17.26Tekcubyou know what google seriously needs
16:17.32Tekcuba bookmark service
16:17.32Temsome new feature
16:17.40Tems
16:17.40Shyvaok Tem :)
16:17.49Temsome stuff a little different
16:18.00ShyvaMake it support AceOption auto generated option frames :p if you have some time left =)
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16:18.21Temhonestly, I'm not familliar enough with the old one to tell you the exact differences
16:18.42TemShyva, it doesn't add any real functionaility to frames it doesn't create
16:18.57Temso 'supporting' AceOptions frames would be pointless
16:19.00ag`Tem, will Acegui be able to take AceOptions tables?
16:19.02ag`ahrh
16:19.12TemAceOptions is it's own thing
16:19.17Shyvahmm, what ag` says is what I mean :p
16:19.30TemAceGUI is pretty big
16:19.38Temyou don't need it for AceOptions
16:19.47Temwell, we'll see
16:19.50Amadeothere any small addons that tell you vendor item prices?
16:19.51ag`AceOptions isn't a lib. It's a table standard Tem
16:19.53Amadeowhat stuff will sell for, that is
16:19.57Temag`, yes I know
16:20.12ShyvaI mean something likle this Tem: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Dewdrop-2.0_API_Documentation#:InjectAceOptionsTable.28handler.2C_options.29
16:20.14ag`What I mean is if AceGUI will be able to read the tables like dewdrop does
16:20.26TemI verymuch doubt it
16:20.43Temthere will be a serperate lib that takes an AceOptions table and creates a gui from it
16:20.57Shyvathat would be really really cool :o
16:21.21ag`But that lib would most likely depend on AceGUI
16:21.33Temmaybe
16:21.36Temmaybe not
16:22.05ShyvaAre you going to make that lib?
16:22.12Temdon't know
16:22.15Shyvaok ;-)
16:22.37Temwhen I'm finished with AceGUI, I have about 6 addons waiting to be written..
16:22.44Zerylag`: informant does, but it's not small, i believe mendeleev does as well
16:22.45Temand 8 or released addons that need love
16:22.57Temmend does not do sell prices, afaik
16:23.07Shyvakci does sell prices
16:23.09Temand 8 or so released addons that need love
16:25.30CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r7800 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua:
16:25.30CIA-11BulkMail:
16:25.30CIA-11- Removed some debug code
16:25.41ShyvaAnyone who can help me with AceTab-2.0 ? I only want to try to complete a word when there actualy is a word, becuase when I type a space, and press tab, it tries to complete it now, but I don't know what kind of regexp I need to that :-X
16:26.08Zerylcan you use \b for a word boundry?
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16:26.33ShyvaHmm, maybe hyperChipmunk knows :-/
16:26.56Zeryllook at Fizzwidget linkerator
16:27.01Zerylit does what your looking for
16:27.18Zerylalthough, i just tested, and I can't use a tab in chat...
16:27.36vhaarrckknight_: http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=150
16:28.02CIA-1103tardmrr * r7801 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/AceGUI-2.0.lua:
16:28.02CIA-11AceGUI-2.0:
16:28.02CIA-11<PROTECTED>
16:28.22hyperChipmunkShyva: not quite sure what you're asking
16:29.05Icerothckknight around?
16:29.06hyperChipmunkif you feed it a blank regex, it will always complete
16:29.25CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r7802 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
16:29.25CIA-11AceTab:
16:29.25CIA-11- Relocated variable inits to be always consistent with the registered frames
16:29.44Shyvayeah, but I don't want it to complete if I only typed this: " "
16:29.46Zerylcan you use [a-z] to match on the regex, so that it doesn't try w/ a space before it?
16:29.59Icerothfubar is acting weird when i have 2 detacheds bars and i try to change their width
16:30.25hyperChipmunkthen don't use a blank regex =x
16:30.30vhaarrIceroth: file a bug
16:30.42Icerothyep, i'll do that
16:30.55ShyvaI know hyperChipmunk, but I don't know what kind of regex i DO need :-(
16:30.58Zerylya, use [a-zA-Z0-9] instead of a blank regex
16:31.00hyperChipmunkuse something like "."
16:31.07hyperChipmunker
16:31.10hyperChipmunkuse something like "%S"
16:31.30hyperChipmunksec
16:31.34hyperChipmunkI have a better idea
16:31.55hyperChipmunklet me allow booleans for your regex arg
16:32.09hyperChipmunktrue means it's a fallback ("")
16:32.27hyperChipmunkfalse means no particular regex, but don't complete if no matches
16:32.49ShyvaI like that :)
16:33.06Industrialwhos laric on the svn?
16:33.15Industrialplease prepend the addon name to your commit messages
16:33.17Industrial:D
16:34.02vhaarrahahaha turning off the Decursive monitor reduced my kb/s from 30 to 7 ..
16:34.14Industriallmao
16:34.21vhaarr1.9.8 beta 1 decursive
16:34.25Industrialmine is 1 at highest when fighting
16:34.37Industrialwell - without bags or loot etc open
16:35.15vhaarrwell the 7 kb/s is probably decursive too
16:37.19ag`I get 4-7 kb/s in raids
16:37.24Zeryli envy you guys
16:37.32Zeryli'm sitting at 88kb/s right now :(
16:37.40Industrialholy crap
16:37.41Industrial:P
16:37.43ag`disable your crap
16:37.49Zeryli loves my mods
16:38.02Industrialmake your own
16:38.08IndustrialI promise it will work
16:38.10Industrial:P
16:38.15Industrialwell
16:38.18Industrialdid for me :D
16:38.23Zeryldon't know enough to make anything complicated
16:38.35Industrialstart small
16:39.07Zeryli did start small - my Brood of Nozdormu rep counter :)
16:39.33Industrial:D
16:39.51IndustrialI started with the chat - what has become idChat now
16:39.51ag`just disable your crap
16:39.55Industrialstill small :P
16:40.56Zerylnow it's down to 43, i love how it fluctuates w/ no changes in what's going on
16:43.51TekcubLaric...
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16:49.54Laricyes tekcub?
16:50.14TekcubSVN commit notes, always prefix them with the mod you are committing
16:50.19Tekcub"BigWigs - I fixed shit"
16:50.25Laricoh oki will do
16:53.00Zerylis there a way to see what addon's are causing such large increasing memory w/o disabling them one at a time?
16:53.40Nightdewhow can i check the first char of a string?
16:53.47Nightdewstring[1] ==
16:54.23TekcubYea it is possible Zer... I ned to finish up Fu DebugProfiler so that it works with ACe2 crap
16:54.24Nightdewor do i have to use string.sub
16:54.37Zerylawesome, i would love you forever to figure that out Tekcub :P
16:54.39Tekcublemme do that now, it would be a damn helpful thing
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16:55.54ZerylNightdew: I don't know for sure in LUA, but I know in php array's are $variable[x] and a character in the string is $variable{x}
16:56.06Zerylso i'm sure that LUA has something very similar
16:56.16CIA-1103tekkub * r7803 10/branches/FuBar_DebugProfiler/: FuBar_DebugProfiler - Creating branch path
16:56.45CIA-1103saroz * r7804 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua:
16:56.45CIA-11sRaidFrames:
16:56.46CIA-11- A few optimizations and cleanups
16:56.46CIA-11- Fixed Feign Death not working, since UnitIsDead() returned nil for FD players.. dunno why
16:56.46CIA-11- Fixed statusbar not resetting when players died
16:57.09CIA-1103tekkub 07Ace2 * r7805 10FuBar_DebugProfiler/: FuBar_DebugProfiler - Creating branch for Ace2/Fu2 conversion
16:58.07Zerylyay for totally borked tooltip mods - buffs/debuffs showing up on Mageweave bandage tooltips
16:59.14CIA-1103tekkub 07Ace2 * r7806 10FuBar_DebugProfiler/ (6 files):
16:59.14CIA-11FuBar_DebugProfiler
16:59.14CIA-11- Committing up my current local copy, note that it'll probably be all fucked up for you guys, don't use this.
16:59.37CIA-1103grayhoof * r7807 10SCT/sct/sct.lua: sct: removed modifying of ParserLib table
17:02.36AmadeoI wish it said, "Removed ParserLib" :)
17:02.55Zerylis grayhoof the original SCT author then?
17:03.02AmadeoYeah
17:03.08CIA-1103grayhoof * r7808 10SCT/sct_options/ (9 files): sct_options: Added new built in profiles (classic, performance, split, Grayhoof) to profile selection
17:03.20Zerylthat makes me VERY happy then :)
17:03.32Zerylglad it won't be a "fork" from the original code
17:03.47AmadeoI heard he rewrote most of it
17:03.58Amadeobut I'm still pretty partial to MSBT, though I might end up switching
17:04.06Zeryleither way, it's alot better it's him doing it, rather than a 2nd person
17:04.16CIA-1103grayhoof * r7809 10SCT/sctd/sctd.lua: sctd: removed modifying of ParserLib table
17:04.28Amadeoyeah
17:04.40Amadeodoes he IRC?
17:04.41Zerylwonder how it'll change w/. 1.12
17:04.48Zeryldunno, i'm new here
17:05.20AmadeoWell the SCT you see there is using Ace2
17:05.24Zerylright
17:05.29Zeryli saw it in SVN last night
17:06.12AmadeoI should try it out again after he finishes his updates in a bit
17:06.36Zerylgood question - can you remove a buff w/ an addon?
17:06.49Temkergoth, ping
17:10.52Zerylthe ultimate addon conversion would be discord -> ace
17:12.47venthat would be like mixing oil and liqiud
17:13.00ZerylI know, lol
17:13.01Soltaniswould never happen , ace mods generally are about only doing what is needed and not doing everything in one mod
17:13.09Zerylbut i could always hope
17:13.18AmadeoIs there a way to "comment out" directories so they won't load in WoW by renaming them to something?
17:13.23Amadeoaddon dirs, that is
17:13.29Zerylthat'll get much worse when he releases the UI designer
17:13.41Soltanisjsut move them out of the directory?
17:13.50Soltanisturn them off at character screen?
17:14.00AmadeoI guess I could turn them off at char select
17:14.04AmadeoI get lazy though
17:14.06Zerylrename the directory
17:14.07Amadeoall that stuff takes a while to load
17:14.08Amadeo:)
17:14.22venI think when dirname and .toc name aren't the same they don't show up
17:15.21Amadeoah I see
17:15.24Amadeocool
17:16.21hasterawr
17:16.48AmadeoI hate how Blizzard totally ruined the Inspect system
17:16.50Amadeoreally bugs me
17:16.59Zerylwhy did they do it/
17:17.23AmadeoWell it's broken right now, and on 1.12 it's broken and you have to be within like 1 foot of a person to do it
17:17.50Amadeoand that's 1 scale foot
17:18.00Zeryl*nod*
17:18.00Amadeomore like an inch on screen :P
17:18.08ZerylI know they broke it, i just didn'tknow if there was a reason they did it
17:18.15AmadeoNot sure either
17:18.31Amadeojust bugs me, I loved my SuperInspect to see what stats people have with good armor and such
17:18.47Zerylcross-faction, I understand, but I don't understand same-faction limitations
17:19.14CIA-1103shyva * r7810 10BigWigs/Options.lua:
17:19.14CIA-11BigWigs:
17:19.14CIA-11- You can now shift-click to disable all running modules.
17:19.14CIA-11- Removed some debug spam.
17:19.30dreadlyonewould anyone be able to tell me how i would go about editing idChatTimestamps.lua to make it 12hour format instead of 24h format?
17:19.38AmadeoZeryl: Yeah
17:19.45AmadeoI loved cross faction, but I wasn't bothered when they removed it
17:20.54Amadeobrb
17:21.23koppledreadlyone: search for date and time in the topic link
17:21.42dreadlyonelua.org?
17:21.49koppleyes
17:22.24dreadlyoneon it, thx
17:22.48Zerylit would be interesting to see them implement sqlite into WoW, or some sort of DB engine like that
17:23.50Soltanissurely thats too risky to apply outside tampering
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17:24.06[Liquidor]Uhm I want to try work around with Ace, but I got no clue how to start. I mean, I don't got any ideas of an addon to make -.-
17:24.40CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r7811 10BulkMail/ (. lib/ lib/Ace2/ lib/PeriodicTable/):
17:24.40CIA-11BulkMail:
17:24.40CIA-11- Externals structure modified
17:24.41vhaarrthen convert an Ace addon to Ace2
17:24.44vhaarr[Liquidor]: start with Transcriptor
17:24.45Soltanisif you don't have an addon you want to make in the end , then you won't have anything to look forward to :-(
17:24.47[Liquidor]btw nice change with the shift clicking Shyva
17:24.58[Liquidor]It's just temp that I got no ideas.
17:25.04ZerylI know, but having a true DB engine would be amazing
17:25.22[Liquidor]Usually I only spend a couple of days on the mods I make
17:25.36vhaarr[Liquidor]: convert Transcriptor to Ace2, that is a nice exercise.
17:25.57[Liquidor]vhaarr, I don't even know how to work with Ace yet.
17:26.13vhaarrI know, you just said so.
17:26.16[Liquidor]What's the biggest diff. between Ace and Ace2 ?
17:26.23Soltaniswhy don't you pick one of those mods you "worked on for a couple of days" and convert it to ace2
17:26.25hyperChipmunkO_o
17:26.31hyperChipmunkeverything
17:26.37Zerylace = library, ace2 = embeded (I think?)
17:27.13[Liquidor]Heh noone dares to answer that question with a big "!", cause they aren't sure what the major changes are?! :>
17:27.23Soltanisahh , need something to get me coding , hate this , once i start i can code for hours , but i have real hard time starting
17:27.25hyperChipmunkno, everything's changed
17:28.00hyperChipmunkit's not even remotely comparable, besides the objective of providing a framework that takes care of the stuff that addon authors shouldn't have to
17:28.11ZerylI would convert the ONE mod that i made to Ace, but it's already only like 20 lines long
17:33.11IndustrialZeryl, pastey.net it
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17:35.04Mikmawassup
17:35.27vhaarr[Liquidor]: If you want to learn Ace2, I can't think of a better way than to convert a Ace addon to Ace2.
17:35.35vhaarr[Liquidor]: And Transcriptor would make people happy.
17:36.43CIA-1103rophy * r7812 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: ParserLib : 1.1-24 : token sequence was wrong for SPELLREFLECTSELFOTHER.
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17:40.37[Liquidor]vhaarr, already looking into it :)
17:40.49vhaarrexcellent, I'll have your babies
17:41.10[Liquidor]uhm yeah... well okay.. as long as I get to name em :>
17:41.30[Liquidor]John and Allakhabdul for the twins
17:41.36[Liquidor]Btw
17:41.48[Liquidor]nah nvm, ill be back later
17:41.51TainHey hyperChipmunk, found a little thing with BulkMail.  I accidentally tried to mail some stuff to myself and it sent BulkMail into a loop trying to resend over and over again because the game won't let you mail something to yourself.
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17:42.45[Liquidor]oh now I got it; what editors are you folks using?
17:42.49CIA-1103aileen 072.0 * r7813 10FuBar_VolumeFu/FuBar_VolumeFu/libs/: VolumeFu - Added libs folder
17:42.53hyperChipmunkgvim
17:43.03hyperChipmunkTain: on it
17:43.07hyperChipmunker, wait
17:43.14hyperChipmunkhow old is your BM?
17:43.26hyperChipmunkI put in a check for that like two months ago
17:43.39Tainmmmnot sure, not at that computer right now, just remembered it
17:43.46TainBut I thought it was newer than that
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17:43.57TainAt the very least it's whatever the lastest on WoWI.
17:44.19vhaarr[Liquidor]: cream.sf.net
17:44.20TainI just know I was mailing a stack of 5 Arcane Crystals and it went into a loop.  But I'll double-check the version.
17:44.21CIA-1103aileen 072.0 * r7814 10FuBar_VolumeFu/FuBar_VolumeFu/libs/: VolumeFu - externals
17:44.38vhaarr[Liquidor]: it's vim/gvim only windowsified
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17:46.14CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r7815 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua:
17:46.14CIA-11BulkMail:
17:46.14CIA-11- Self-mail check now uses string.lower on both sides
17:46.18Mikmawth :D
17:46.24Mikmai have downloaded ora2...
17:46.39hyperChipmunkwowi is so darn unupdated =)
17:46.52hyperChipmunkbecause tem won't give me AceGUI2
17:47.10hyperChipmunkand I'm not keen on using Ace2 and AceGUI->Ace
17:47.15hyperChipmunkand releasing it that way =P
17:47.23TainI do usually use latest SVN, or at least a recent SVN since I hesitate to just update from svn to run
17:47.50hyperChipmunki test before SVNing; I don't do ckknight commits
17:47.58hyperChipmunkunstable is my local
17:48.10TemhyperChipmunk, just release it that way, but don't advertise that you're now embedding Ace2
17:48.12Tainhehe yeah well I don't remember having any problems doing BM updates.
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17:48.33TemDamn you Buttons!
17:48.41ThraeBulkMail is already an Ace2 / Ace hybrid
17:48.43Temwhy don't you set text properly!
17:49.09ThraehyperChipmunk: What about using Tablet in the interim?
17:49.22ThraeI think that does list boxes.
17:49.29Temlol
17:49.31Temno it doesn'
17:49.34Temt
17:49.34hyperChipmunkaroo?
17:49.43hyperChipmunkthat bends my brain
17:49.44ThraeWell, it's easy to add an element I mean.
17:49.52hyperChipmunkyea, but how do you put buttons
17:49.55hyperChipmunkand how do you drag-drop
17:49.59Temyou don't
17:50.01Mikmai just love bw2 broadcasting lol
17:50.09Mikmawhen my gf mouseovers the boss i get the mod enabled
17:50.17[Liquidor]is Ace using TRUE/FALSE or 1/nil by default?
17:50.24ThraeAh drag-and-dropping, I always use SHIFT+Click
17:50.28[Liquidor]Ace2 for that matter
17:50.37TemTRUE/FALSE is 1/nil (in Ace1.x that is)
17:50.45Temnot sure what Ace2 uses
17:50.47Thrae[Liquidor]: Stores it internally as true/nil
17:50.55Temthough, I'd imagine it's true/nil
17:50.57hyperChipmunkvalue/nil
17:51.03[Liquidor]okay thanks
17:51.32ThraeAceDB doesn't convert false to nil anymore?
17:52.10hyperChipmunknil is default value, true is true, false is false (if default is not false)
17:52.31ThraeRight, that's what I was thinking of.
17:52.35hyperChipmunkthat's the recommended convention, at least
17:52.52ThraeOK now to see how much rophy hates me.
17:53.04hyperChipmunkif he doesn't, I'll hate you
17:53.24ThraeYou hate everyone, that's nothing special ;)
17:53.50hyperChipmunkand that's why we all hate wobin
17:56.03CIA-1103aileen 072.0 * r7816 10FuBar_VolumeFu/FuBar_VolumeFu/libs/: VolumeFu - externals
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17:56.38AmadeoSCT's not showing my damage dealt
17:56.50Amadeojust incoming damage
17:56.54ThraeTem: Are you female?
17:57.05Temno
17:57.05Soltanisthats what SCTD is for
17:57.17AmadeoI have that installed too
17:57.20ThraeHeh, Gello referred to you as "she" in a WoWI post.
17:57.20Amadeoand it's still not showing it :P
17:57.25Temoh noes
17:57.28Soltanismake sure you haven't changed your alpha or what ever he called it
17:57.28Temwhere?
17:57.31Temwait
17:57.35Temwhy would gello refer to me
17:57.43hyperChipmunkdun dun DUNNNN
17:57.45TainHe called you a sissy-boy
17:57.45AmadeoSoltanis: I just "installed" it, so it should be defaults
17:57.50Thraehttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4786
17:57.54[Liquidor]How come self.db:toggle() exists? If I want to check if a path/key/value is set (or not) then I can simply use the 'not' statement?
17:57.59ThraeI didn't know you were working on a Combat Parser Lib
17:58.12Soltanischeck it opacacy or something i think it's called
17:58.22hyperChipmunkprolly a diff Tem
17:58.28Temmust be
17:58.30ThraeThere is more then one Tem?
17:58.36AmadeoTem is tardmrr!
17:58.37ThraeI don't think the world can handle that.
17:58.37Temnot that I know of
17:58.37hyperChipmunkabbrev
17:58.44Amadeoright?
17:58.46Amadeoor am I confused
17:58.47Temaye
17:58.58hyperChipmunkprobably someone like Temlily or something
17:59.04phyberLaric: *prod*
17:59.10phyberLaric: bad commit messages :p
17:59.33ThraeAnyway, it seems rophy has some information I don't, so I was wrong to make a new library.
17:59.47Kyahxmorning all
17:59.50AmadeoSoltanis: It's 100% opaque
17:59.59TainOf course the best reason to write something is, "If'n I feels like it."
18:00.01ThraeI need ckknight's input.
18:00.08Thraeckknight_: ping
18:00.26Amadeoanyone know if Grayhoof comes to IRC?
18:00.36Thrae~seen Grayhoof
18:01.07purlThrae: i haven't seen 'grayhoof'
18:01.07tardmrr~seen grayhoof
18:01.09purltardmrr: i haven't seen 'grayhoof'
18:01.09TainHe has.
18:01.09TainBut I haven't seen him more than once that I remember.
18:01.09Amadeohm
18:01.09Temdamn, this is hell weid
18:01.09SoltanisAmadeo : did you have the old version of SCT installed?
18:01.14Laricphyber: I know.. sorry about the bad commits
18:01.20Thrae~seen purl
18:01.22purlpurl is currently on #casualti (2d 12h 47m 47s) #botpark (2d 12h 47m 47s) #linuxfund (2d 12h 47m 47s) #wowi-lounge (2d 12h 47m 47s) # (2d 12h 47m 47s) #edev (2d 12h 47m 47s) #fossfund (2d 12h 47m 47s) #hosernet (2d 12h 47m 47s) #classiccmp (2d 12h 47m 47s) #creativeforum (2d 12h 47m ...
18:01.41ThraeWhat's a hosernet...
18:01.50hyperChipmunkthat's my channel
18:02.07Tainhmm I think I want to do a graphical frame update UI called Snakes on an Addon.
18:02.07hyperChipmunkfor me and my girlfriend and my friends
18:02.26phyberLaric: ok :) (just checking ;))
18:03.47hyperChipmunkhoho you outran my kick by about a half-second +)
18:04.24Temlol
18:05.58AmadeoGuess that means you're not a friend :P
18:06.12hyperChipmunk=O
18:07.08Tuplad>:)
18:09.19CIA-1103laric * r7817 10AoFHeal/AoFHeal.toc:
18:09.19CIA-11AoFHeal:
18:09.19CIA-11<PROTECTED>
18:09.31Laricphyber better commit log now?
18:09.46hyperChipmunkmuch better
18:09.52hyperChipmunkalso, loading is good =)
18:10.54Laricloading makes things easier :P
18:11.40vhaarrLaric: Is AoFHeal a AceHeal replacement?
18:12.44ThraeBy the way, everyone don't use QueueWho. It's a great idea in theory to queue Who requests, and it's an Ace addon, but it creates a new table for each request, the culprit of my 20KB/s idle.
18:12.51CIA-1103tekkub 07Ace2 * r7818 10FuBar_DebugProfiler/ (Core.lua FuBar_DebugProfiler.toc OnUpdate.lua):
18:12.51CIA-11FuBar_DebugProfiler
18:12.51CIA-11- Converted Core and OnUpdate to Ace2/Fu2
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18:13.04ThraeOnce again, we find that using Ace does nothing against bad code ;)
18:13.12Temso, Thrae I have an idea
18:13.54Temhow about instead of just bashing the addon here (regardless of the merit), you make a suggestion to the author so that they can fix it
18:15.03CIA-1103hk2717 * r7819 10SCT/ (8 files in 4 dirs): sct: All-in-one zhCN localization added.
18:15.43ThraeTem: It's an old addon, no longer supported.
18:16.01Temsure about that?
18:16.17[Liquidor]Just read the Ace Manual and the documentations for all the Ace2 modules. It all makes more sence to me now :)
18:16.48FryGuyooh there's an acegui2 on svn
18:16.50[Liquidor]Damn I wish I knew about Ace before I made my addons. Would have easen it up heavily -.-
18:17.18ThraeI was just mad because it took me so long to do the trial and error to find the culprit, not trying to bash the addon, just warn people of its current state. I honestly never thought an addon like QueueWho would cause problems. Now I know better when it comes to any queue'ing addons.
18:17.22TemFryGuy, it's incomplete
18:17.26TemI'm working on it right now
18:17.29FryGuyaww :(
18:19.55ThraeTem: I planned on sending the author a message even though I think he doesn't check WoWI anymore ;)
18:20.03Thraes/;)//
18:22.49CIA-1103hk2717 * r7820 10BigWigs/ (Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua Other/Test.lua): BigWigs: Updated zhCN locale in Thaddius module to catch up with the recent change. Test.lua localized too.
18:22.51Gamefaqthrea the extra tooltip if you enable "show other addons info" must he be?
18:23.02CIA-1103tardmrr * r7821 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/ (9 files): (log message trimmed)
18:23.02CIA-11AceGUI-2.0:
18:23.02CIA-11<PROTECTED>
18:23.02CIA-11<PROTECTED>
18:23.02CIA-11<PROTECTED>
18:23.04CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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18:23.17Temaww
18:23.18ThraeGamefaq: Please rephrase.
18:23.19Temspam more please
18:23.29Temthat's not all my changes, bitch
18:23.37[Liquidor]hehehe
18:23.52Gamefaq:)
18:24.31[Liquidor]Oh vhaarr, you there?
18:24.36vhaarryes
18:25.05[Liquidor]I was thinking, and I know it might have been brought up though, but what about timers/warnings for the other 3 dragoooons
18:25.17IndustrialI edited my infogami website a bit
18:25.20vhaarrThey should work, are they not working?
18:25.22[Liquidor]Talking about BigWigs.
18:25.25Industrialhttp://Industrial.infogami.com
18:25.46vhaarr[Liquidor]: Of course. What about them, are they not working?
18:25.56Gamefaq@threa tinytip hast the 3 options show other addons info off , show other addons info and show both tinytip and other addons info
18:26.02[Liquidor]Are they there at all? I only see Emerris.lua as one of them?!
18:26.10[Liquidor]Emeriss*
18:26.15vhaarr[Liquidor]: Ah, I thought you meant the 3 drakes in BWL.
18:26.26vhaarr[Liquidor]: No, we don't have mods for them at all. Do they need mods?
18:26.43Gamefaqwhen you enable show other addons info on then a second tooltip appears. must that be?
18:26.46[Liquidor]Well...
18:27.24vhaarr[Liquidor]: To be honest I didn't actually kill them, ever. I've always been at work when my guild killed them.
18:27.29vhaarr[Liquidor]: So I have no idea what they do.
18:27.34vhaarrI could still make bossmods, though.
18:27.38vhaarr[Liquidor]: brb 5min
18:27.54[Liquidor]Taerar
18:27.55[Liquidor]- Noxious breath
18:27.55[Liquidor]- Fear incoming (ground shakes)
18:27.55[Liquidor]- Shades (25% ability)
18:27.55[Liquidor]Ysondre
18:27.55[Liquidor]- Noxious breath
18:27.55ThraeGamefaq: If you want to see info from other addons, you don't need to enable that option, TinyTip already handles that. The option you are talking about makes a second tooltip and puts the information in there.
18:27.56[Liquidor]- Druids (25% ability)
18:28.35[Liquidor]That's a quote from the Bigwigs Others forum, and I can't remember what the last one does.
18:28.51hasteLethon?
18:28.52Gamefaqok but why must this second tooltip be always  visible even there is no other addons show something?
18:28.58hastehe shadow volleys every 25%
18:29.23hasteand noxious breath
18:29.46ThraeGamefaq: Yes, there's no easy way to tell if an addon adds extra information.
18:29.49[Liquidor]He also spawns shades
18:30.26vhaarrAlright, I can make bossmods for them, no problem.
18:30.39[Liquidor]Yeah it was just a request from my guild though
18:30.41vhaarrNot today, though.
18:30.56[Liquidor]Nah, it's no hurry. They're already down anyway
18:31.01vhaarr:)
18:31.02haste[Liquidor]: yeh, that was it
18:31.10hasteLethon is the easiest tho'
18:31.12hasteafter the shade nerf
18:31.35TupladNew line in lua is \n right ?
18:31.44Tem\n
18:31.51[Liquidor]Oh really? We always have a hard time on Lethon, but tbh I think it's because we always have 2 horde guilds poking us during the fight :)
18:32.40CIA-1103tardmrr * r7822 10Ace2/AceGUI-2.0/ (AceGUI-2.0.lua AceGUIBase-2.0.lua): AceGUI-2.0: Fixed a bug where FontInstances could be configured twice and a root FontInstance wouldn't be configured at all.
18:33.27haste[Liquidor]: we've done it with one alliance guild on us so :p
18:34.06TupladTem: will |n work ?
18:34.26Temfor what?
18:34.30Tupladnew line
18:34.39Temin what context?
18:35.03Tupladugh, print("Hai2u!\n Hai2u2!")
18:35.33Temuse \n
18:35.35Gamefaq@thrae mhh maybe you should rename the description of this option
18:35.45TupladTem: yea, but will |n work ?
18:35.46Temno
18:35.52TupladRoger that
18:36.48AmadeoYou guys know any good spots to make money?
18:37.02TemAmadeo, are you an enchanter?
18:37.08[Liquidor]Amadeo, AH !
18:37.22Gamefaqsince for now it looks like if you not enable this option, then extra addon info would not become visible
18:37.41[Liquidor]If you're good at mats, know how to take benefits of Auctioneer and it's modules, you'll earn yourself tons of gold.
18:37.55AmadeoTem: I'm an Engineer, but my girlfriend is an enchanter
18:38.07Temget her a shadowforge key
18:38.14Temand farm Incendius
18:38.19[Liquidor]Amadeo, I think he was referring to disenchant stuff
18:38.24Amadeoour gear isn't that great, just blues...can we do that?
18:38.34Temwhat classes?
18:38.38AmadeoWarrior/Priest
18:38.48Temthe priest could solo it
18:38.52Temnot sure about the warrior
18:39.03Temthe duo could definately do it though
18:39.11Amadeocan you avoid the guards?
18:39.16Temall but 2
18:39.22Temand I can solo them
18:39.23[Liquidor]Just kill em and gain some extra money ;)
18:39.23Amadeothe last two?
18:39.28Temaye, the last 2
18:39.31AmadeoI always imagined it being harder
18:39.38Amadeothat's a good idea
18:39.41Amadeowhere do you get that key anyway?
18:39.47Temquest in BRD
18:40.07Temthe first step you get from forthwright's ghost
18:40.09Amadeoguess I can't solo that :)
18:40.11Temyou have to be dead
18:40.18Temyou can't solo the first part
18:40.18Amadeooh yeah... I forgot about that one
18:40.22Tembut I soloed the second part
18:40.28Temyou might not be able to
18:40.37Temthere were some 7 pulls along the way
18:40.53ThraeIf you're a Druid, you can solo it!
18:40.54[Liquidor]As a rogue you can solo the entire instance - wish my priest could do that too
18:41.07AmadeoSo just get the drops and DE, sell shards?
18:41.08Tema rogue cannot solo the Lyceum
18:41.11Temyeah
18:41.21Temhe'll drop 1 blue every time
18:41.39Amadeonice, I'll have to try that
18:41.45ThraeWhich instance are we talking about?
18:41.46AmadeoI need to do BRD anyway, I want a Hand of Justice
18:41.58TemI can hit my instance reset cap killing him
18:42.06Temthat's how easy/fast it is
18:42.25[Liquidor][20:41] <Tem> a rogue cannot solo the Lyceum --- ofc a rogue can
18:42.29ThraeGamefaq: TinyTipExtras and TinyTipOptions needs non-English translation, yeah.
18:42.33Tem5 shards an hour = 50g/h
18:42.45Tem[Liquidor], no they can't
18:43.02Tema prep rogue might be able to with luck
18:43.12Tembut realistically, no, not possible
18:43.12[Liquidor]ofc he can :>
18:43.16[Liquidor]You want proof?
18:43.17Mikmahmm
18:43.20Temyes, I do
18:43.25Mikmaludwig needs a proper way of pasting items to chat
18:43.36ThraeWhat about a Druid? I have qualms about picking Mining as a good way to make gold.
18:43.50[Liquidor]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5948926503805147865 -- good music too
18:43.59Temoh yeah, that's the other thing you can do in BRD if you're a miner
18:44.04Temyou can solo to the black forge
18:44.09TemDI Bars sell well
18:44.16ThraeA Druid should be able to solo even better then a Rogue, right?
18:44.29[Liquidor]Dunno, Evasion is kinda imba
18:44.46Amadeowhere's that? I'm a miner
18:45.00TainThat's the funny part about being a Rogue.  I was able to solo better in boe blues than I can now in MC/BWL purples because my spec is completely towards raiding.
18:45.37[Liquidor]Amadeo, look at the link I just posted @ 1:20 - 1:30 = Black Forge+Dark Iron Vein
18:45.50Amadeooh
18:45.57AmadeoI saw "music" and thought it was a music video
18:45.57Amadeohaha
18:46.06[Liquidor]no it's a rogue soloing brd
18:46.16ThraeWhat level can you start farming BRD?
18:46.30TainThat rogue has absurd weapons, whatever they are.
18:46.30[Liquidor]solo?
18:46.43Thrae[Liquidor]: Yeah, at least for mining
18:47.42Amadeothose look like Rank 14 swords
18:47.57[Liquidor]I don't know really Thrae. I've never tried to get to the vein soloing
18:48.07TainThat's the only reason, they're doing insane damage.
18:48.16TainBut you can spec completely differently for soloing.
18:48.25Tainandn as a Rogue you can solo to the forge
18:49.12Tuplad[Liquidor]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5948926503805147865 -- good music too
18:49.16Tuplad[Liquidor]: that's crap
18:49.25Tupladwe didnt get past the giant with 3 rogues
18:49.33TainHave to be sword though, you couldn't put out the damage you need as dagger, and too much is immune to mace stuns.
18:49.45Tupladmagmus; that one
18:49.51TainThat rogue is putting out more damage than your three probably did.
18:50.30Tupladdude
18:50.36Tuplad2 epixed rogues and me in blues
18:51.02Tem[Liquidor], I admit defeat
18:51.07TainIt's all about the swords.
18:51.20Tem[Liquidor], I didn't think the flamebearers were ever away from the big groups in there
18:51.33Temoh, and lol@ the way he kills the emp
18:51.44[Liquidor]=)
18:51.54Temtotally cheating by using vanish to seperate the pull
18:52.00TemI solo them together
18:52.10Tainhaha come on, Vanish separating is great.
18:52.20Tembut I haven't yet sucessfully made it through the lyceum alone
18:54.52[Liquidor]Argh I'm still lost on how to start this :-/
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18:56.21Gngsklyceaum is easy
18:56.37Gngskwell, unless you get shitty flame bearer spawns
18:58.00Mikma~inflatable dildos
18:58.02purlOh yea baby, stretch that hole!
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19:01.44TupladI wonder if it's easier to solo for a druid
19:02.02ThraeUsually, Tuplad
19:02.07[Liquidor]Is a druid able to burst damage as fast as a rogue?
19:02.20Tuplad[Liquidor]: yes, and even more with the right gear
19:02.35Tupladever seen druids with 2200 ap ? >:|
19:02.43[Liquidor]well the healing and mana regeneration is a major plus ;)
19:02.44TemGngsk, what class are you?
19:02.57TupladNo [Liquidor], Im talking about a Feral Druid :)
19:02.58[Liquidor]brb
19:03.04[Liquidor]kek
19:03.10TemI imagine that Tauren druids have it ezmode
19:03.20Gamefaq<Thrae> Gamefaq: TinyTipExtras and TinyTipOptions needs non-English translation, yeah. tell what must be where tranlastet and you get german translation like i done to SCT asap..
19:03.25TupladYou're gonna output damage with Resto build ? GL
19:03.27TemWar Stomp, pop out of feral form, heal, go back to feral
19:03.38TupladTem: no Tem :P
19:03.43TupladTem: out of form, warstomp, heal
19:03.49Temsame difference
19:03.57Tuplad¬_¬
19:04.03Tupladyou cant warstomp in form kek
19:04.08ThraeGamefaq: It's easy, all the files that have "Locale" in them need translation. I thought I gave good instructions.
19:04.22Gamefaqok i look into it
19:05.35Industrialhttp://industrial.infogami.com/My_interface
19:05.37Industrial^^
19:05.45Tupladamagad Industrial
19:05.48Tupladthat's nice
19:05.50Industrial?
19:06.06Industrialgud
19:06.06Industrial:P
19:06.24[Liquidor]100 FPS? o.O
19:06.26ThraeGamefaq: I'd appreciate it, and I'm always around if you need help. Or PM me on wowace.
19:06.27TupladIndustrial: QuickCompare > EquipCompare ?
19:06.31Industrialye
19:06.34*** join/#wowace Mordus (n=bjhaig@toronto-HSE-ppp4255314.sympatico.ca)
19:06.39Industrial[Liquidor], ?
19:06.43*** join/#wowace Mordus (n=bjhaig@toronto-HSE-ppp4255314.sympatico.ca)
19:07.03Industrial[Liquidor], nice card :>
19:07.12GngskI play a rogue
19:07.18[Liquidor]Screenshot: 100 FPS 109 ms 12.9 MiB... :S
19:07.24Industrial^_^
19:07.29[Liquidor]What is your gfx card?
19:07.35IndustrialGeforce 9700GT
19:07.42Tuplad:\
19:07.43*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
19:07.47Industrialhi ck
19:07.56TupladIndustrial: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 that's nice :O
19:08.07Industrialvery
19:08.22ckknighthey all
19:08.37CIA-1103theondry * r7823 10FuBar_SnaFu/ (SnaFu.lua readme.txt): FuBar_SnaFu: added sfx
19:08.45[Liquidor]Industrial, is ID-Addons your creation or?
19:08.52Tupladall of 'em liq :)
19:08.55Industrialyes
19:09.01[Liquidor]Arh okay, didn't know :)
19:09.08TupladidUF is teh secks!
19:09.13[Liquidor]Never gonna use em then *KIDDING*
19:09.18Industrialhaha
19:09.18Industrial:P
19:09.19Tuplad-_-
19:09.21[Liquidor]=P
19:10.20Tupladmsg Industrial hoe zit het met targetframe enz ?
19:10.24Industrial:>
19:10.25Tupladugh :X
19:10.31Tupladforgot slash
19:10.34Industrialplayer and target and party work atm
19:10.41Tupladscreens!
19:10.44Industrialparty is a bit dodgy tho
19:10.47*** join/#wowace Cartas (n=Cartas@host86-142-21-46.range86-142.btcentralplus.com)
19:10.49Industrialno, just try it
19:10.49Industrial:D
19:10.55Tupladgive account :<
19:11.18Tupladwill it work on test server Industrial?
19:11.24Industrialno idea
19:11.35Tupladmeh, gonna try it then
19:11.59Mikmahmm
19:12.08Mikmai got an error while joining raid with ora2
19:12.11Mikmaanyone wan't to see it?
19:13.07Tupladmm
19:13.13Tupladsure mikma, Im excited
19:13.41Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/ora2.txt
19:14.11Tuplad:| smooth
19:15.01[Liquidor]I tried oRA today and my expectations really killed me afterwards :-/
19:15.05TupladIndustrial: http://users.telenet.be/tuplad/wow/Screenshots/AddonList12Aug.png | could you like, tell me which ones you wouldnt use and why, cleaning my UI ;)
19:15.08Mikmaself.rosterinfo[name].rank = ran
19:15.13Mikmathis line = error.. wtf :D
19:15.17Tuplad[Liquidor]: oRA2 ?
19:15.35[Liquidor]No I tried oRA
19:15.41Tupladwith oRA_Menu ?
19:15.42[Liquidor]..1 for that matter.
19:15.48[Liquidor]The whole package
19:15.51Tupladgood
19:15.58TupladI knew you'd like it
19:16.28[Liquidor]Didn't really say I liked it nor disliked it, however I hoped for something more.
19:16.38IndustrialTuplad^brblol: stopthespam, aceautoprofit, aceplayermenu (no idea what it does), ah_wipe (so obsolete), antiafk, atlas, autobar, autorank
19:16.44IndustrialTuplad^brblol, thats just A
19:18.20IndustrialTuplad^brblol, basically my addon list + whatever you use for raiding - done :P
19:18.55hasteaceplayermenu adds more options to the right click menu ofplayers
19:19.01hastethe drop-down with whisper, inspect and such
19:20.15Industrialah k
19:21.05Mordushey guys -- I'm new to writing addons, but I was going to try to learn some by re-writing our home grown dkp bot into an ace addon
19:21.37Mordusbut Im having trouble with the AceGUI part of it, do you know of any addons that would be good examples?
19:21.55ThraeMordus: Mmmm, what about using Tablet or DewdropLib?
19:22.04TemMordus, don't use AceGUI yet
19:22.15TemMordus, wait a bit for us to get 2.0 up and running
19:22.25Mordusalright
19:22.42Mordusis the API really going to change that much?
19:22.49Temnot *that* much
19:22.51ThraeYeah, AceGUI 1.x is kinda deprecated with the CreateFrame stuff added, although the API is still nice.
19:22.54[Liquidor]Erhm if I make a convertion of an addon from Ace to Ace2, who's the author then?
19:23.04[Liquidor]Or how do I write the header of the .toc?
19:23.10[Liquidor]should I*
19:23.17Thrae[Liquidor]: Author field can accept more then one entry
19:23.24ckknightMy thingy |cff7fff7f -Ace2-|r
19:23.39CIA-1103hk2717 * r7824 10SCT/sct_options/localization.cn.lua: sct_options: minor update to zhCN locale.
19:23.41Industrial[Liquidor], if its someone elses addon always do it with permission
19:23.53Kyahxckknight: when passing a table for a text validation in AceOptions, how do I get it to to compare it with the keys instead of the values?
19:23.59[Liquidor]Well what if I make my own version of it in Ace2?
19:24.12ckknightKyahx, it should do that if both keys and values are strings.
19:24.13Industrialif you name it differently ts yours
19:24.16[Liquidor]I don't really know how to convert it since I don't know any Ace/Ace2 developing yet
19:24.21ckknightIndustrial, not true.
19:24.37Industrialckknight, given the code isnt licensed
19:24.38Kyahxckknight: Nope, its only saying "Valid Options are: {value | value}"
19:24.40Thraeckknight: Hey, I need to get your opinion on something concerning Deformat-2.0.
19:24.42Kyahxits ignoring the key values
19:24.47ckknightwait, technically, legally, if you use none of their code,you'll be good
19:24.51ckknightKyahx, bug.
19:24.57[Liquidor]Well great, Kyahx is here.
19:24.59Industrialckknight, :_
19:25.00Industrial:)
19:25.05Kyahx[Liquidor]: ???
19:25.11[Liquidor]Kyahx, any plans on making Transcriptor with Ace2?
19:25.12TupladIndustrialTuplad^brblol: stopthespam, aceautoprofit, aceplayermenu (no idea what it does), ah_wipe (so obsolete), antiafk, atlas, autobar, autorank -- well, that's quite a list
19:25.14IndustrialTuplad, scroll up
19:25.17Industrialyea
19:25.28ThraeAceAutoProfit?
19:25.28ckknightIndustrial, if the code isn't licensed, it's all rights reserved (R)
19:25.34Kyahx[Liquidor]: yes, its already done, just completely unteasted :P
19:25.36TupladAcePlayerMenu is a must for me, as there are plenty of punks that like to insert weird characters in their nick which I cant type >_>
19:25.41Industrialckknight, hmm
19:25.41FtH|eagleckknight: Do you know of any problems with the AceEvent_EventUnregistered event on logout/reload?
19:25.52KyahxIts on my to-do list today
19:25.55ThraeTuplad: I use CharMap for that
19:25.58ckknightgoddammit, you can't all come to me at once.
19:26.00TupladIndustrial: autobar ? >:O
19:26.05TupladThrae: charmap.exe or addon ?
19:26.08IndustrialTuplad, ill start using that adon then
19:26.15ThraeTuplad: Addon...
19:26.37TupladIndustrial: =) right click the name and "Get Name" and the name appears in your chat line
19:26.40TupladThrae: hm, lets see
19:27.01[Liquidor]Oh well, then I'll make my own Ace2 version of Transcriptor and won't publish it. Just to learn to use Ace/Ace2
19:27.08ThraeTuplad: It's on Curse if nowhere else
19:27.17Industrialbbl FEWD
19:27.32Tuplado nvm
19:27.32Tupladhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-823-1-character-map.html
19:29.18Tupladhttp://plixx.org/?7W wow, that's a neat out of combat thing :O
19:30.17Mikmayeah, and neat 135MB memuse
19:30.27Tuplad<PROTECTED>
19:30.52[Liquidor]11.1 fps, no wonder
19:30.53TupladDiscord eh :<
19:31.12TupladIs it possible to make somethin' like that without discord ?
19:31.16Tupladliek
19:31.19Mikmayes
19:31.27Tupladif event in combat then switch to art1 or some
19:31.33Kyahxckknight: http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=152 -- Maybe its not even a bug and I'm just stupid, but there you go :)
19:31.35[Liquidor]Everything made with Discord can be standarlized into an addon
19:31.43ThraeTuplad: You could do that with Visor
19:31.53Tuplador like, show the both art, out of combat art is strata low in combat strata is bg
19:31.59Tupladand if combat then change strata
19:32.08TupladThrae: with visor ? o_O
19:33.07Shyvasure, visor can do alot of things, it's just really hard to do it :p
19:33.16Tuplad:O
19:33.17ThraeTuplad: Visor can change almost anything about an existing frame, and react to any event
19:33.28Mikmavisor is just VERY advanced DART
19:33.33Mikmaand DAB
19:33.33TupladThrae: I cant figure out how Visor works :\ and the Visor wiki is gone
19:33.48ShyvaVisor is hard :p really hard ^^
19:34.00Tupladand weird :\
19:34.08Tupladit gives me an example, I use that example, it says what Im doing is wrong - gg
19:35.12ThraeTuplad: Wiki still accessible to me
19:35.58Tupladhm
19:36.11[Liquidor]Aww Tuplad, we love when that happens.
19:36.33Tupladwell screw me. now it works >:|
19:36.35ThraeTuplad: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,568.0.html
19:38.25TupladThrae: yea I ment the manual, the link to the manual
19:38.29Tupladit didnt work for me like a month ago
19:38.41ThraeTuplad: I'm saying that link works for me now
19:39.50Tupladit does for me aswell :D
19:40.04TupladWell screw me, Visor is a beast.
19:40.48ThraeIn features, not in resources
19:40.58ThraeTry VisorGUI too
19:41.03TupladI have Visor & VisorGUI installed :)
19:41.07Mikmavisor is really really good if you actually know how to use it :P
19:41.26TupladI played with it without the manual and it did what I needed :]
19:45.07Tuplad"Allastar - CAN SOMEONE MAKE A DDON LIKE THAT ENLIGHTENED THING PLZ?" what a request :O
19:45.55hasteI used visor a lot before I knew how to work with lua ;)
19:46.07Tupladhaste: :o
19:51.32Industrialme2
19:52.05Tupladmeh, I was using discord all the time
19:52.06Industrialnow i just have an idStuff that does stuff i did with visor
19:52.09Tupladand all the standard CG junk
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19:52.36ThraeIF you guys have any useful scripts, please put them into VzScript
19:52.41Thraes/IF/If/
19:55.02AmadeoWhat's Bartender2's status? options in yet?
19:55.41KyahxAmadeo: most
19:56.25phyberneed a new name for AceGCInfo for the Ace2 version.
19:56.25CIA-1103kyahx 07otravi * r7825 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/ (core.lua frame.lua): oCB2: Zomg options!
19:56.30Kyahx:)
19:56.58Tupladphyber: hmm
19:57.06Tupladphyber: GarbageMan ?
19:57.32Kyahxbe boring, call it Uistats
19:57.34Gngskomg options!
19:57.47GngskI was just checking out oCB2 and thinking 'where are zee options?'
19:57.52CIA-1103tekkub 07Ace2 * r7826 10FuBar_DebugProfiler/ (FuBar_DebugProfiler.toc OnEvent.lua OnUpdate.lua):
19:57.52CIA-11FuBar_DebugProfiler
19:57.52CIA-11- OnEvent module works now
19:58.09phyberthe fubar version will stay as FuBar_GCInFu, I like that name ;)
19:58.30KyahxThen why not just "GCIn"
19:59.03Tupladwhy for fubar phyber ? :\
19:59.29Tupladthere's miniperfsfu, perffu
20:01.04phyberwriting my own thing is fun :)
20:01.08Kyahxheh
20:01.25phyberAceGCInfo already has FuBar support to, so I will just be moving that across ;)
20:01.32KyahxAs long as the stand-alone is good :P  I dont use FuBar on some of my toons
20:01.36Kyahxhence the need for AceGCInfo
20:01.41Tupladmeh :\
20:02.11phyberKyahx: yeah, Standalone will still exist.  I think I'll make it like NanoStats and NanoStatsFu.  The FuBar one uses the code from the regular one for stuff :)
20:02.12Tupladthe main thing I use FuBar for is location on worldmap
20:02.14Kyahxsame reason Thrae is writing a combat paser :P  its fun to run your own mods, even if something already exists
20:02.42Tupladand oRA_Menu
20:02.45AmadeooCB2 is done?
20:02.58*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)
20:03.16ThraeAbout that, I'm probably going to merge my ideas into rophy's ParserLib.
20:03.19KyahxAmadeo: not *done* persay.  I added options to it
20:03.40ThraeJust try to remove as many generated tables as possible, clean the events.
20:03.43KyahxI wouldnt be supprised if Haste rearranged some stuff, since I don't know the full inner workins of oCB
20:03.44AmadeoKyahx: is it in branch?
20:03.48Kyahxyep
20:03.53Amadeocool, thanks :)
20:04.18Amadeooh no
20:04.19KyahxThrae: ah
20:04.22Amadeoso ParserLib will be in everything :(
20:04.30AmadeoLight addons be doomed!
20:04.35Kyahxthats not a bad thing
20:04.42Kyahxhes trying to lighten up paser :P
20:04.48Kyahxless tables
20:04.52ThraeI need to talk with ckknight about if we can still use Deformat-2.0
20:05.10Amadeowell if ParserLib is made more efficient, sure :)
20:05.21Thraerophy makes a point that some of Blizzard's patterns are badly formed on non-English locales, and some are just badly formed to start with
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20:05.32Kyahxbah, time to fix drycodeing errors in Transcriptor2 :P
20:05.35ThraeHence he sorts a table to find the most efficient way of dealing with patterns on any locale
20:05.40GngskKyahx, typo hieght
20:05.50Kyahxhmmm
20:05.52Kyahxk
20:06.38KyahxGngsk: play with it more and see if I missed something else
20:06.41Kyahxthen I'll fix it
20:06.47Gngskk
20:08.34hasteKyahx: I'll might merge my local changes with your later today ;)
20:09.06Kyahxhaste: I had a minor issue with updating the bar after changes are made.  I resorted to calling self:Layout(bar) after every change
20:09.12Kyahxif you can think of a more elegent way, please do
20:09.49IndustrialHow do I give text strings a background? they dont have SetBackdrop
20:10.01Kyahxalso, is there no "unlocked" bar like oCB1 had?
20:10.05TupladHmm, since I installed 'FuBar_GroupFu' I cant set myself as ML by Right Click -> Master Looting, I have to right click on GroupFu and choose ML there.
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20:10.29Gngskhmm
20:10.39Gngskshouldn't unlocking the bars show them and locking them hide them?
20:11.15Tupladnope :\
20:11.29Gngskas it is, a user has to cast something to move around the casting bar and go for a swim/FD to move around the mirrorbar
20:11.57TupladGngsk: oh, oCB
20:12.04TupladGngsk: usually when u unlock the bars appears
20:12.05Tupladappear*
20:12.08KyahxGngsk: I don't think thats in oCB2 (yet?)
20:12.27GngskTuplad, yea that's what I meant
20:14.16Amadeobrb
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20:14.32TupladIceroth: you there?
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20:22.45Amadeosomeone find Grayhoof and make him fix SCTD :P
20:23.48Tuplad;\
20:26.47CIA-1103kyahx 07otravi * r7827 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/core.lua: oCB2: Typo fix.
20:28.13CIA-1103kyahx * r7828 10oRA_MainTankFrames/oRA_MainTankFrames.lua: oRA_MainTankFrames: Toggling Target of Tank was tossing out errors. Added sanity checks to stop this.
20:29.32Thraeckknight: Ri
20:31.10CIA-1103eternally777 * r7829 10HealHub/ (HH-Core.lua HH-Events.lua HH-Options.lua HealHub.toc): HealHub: Put commands in a seperate file for organizational purposes.
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20:37.21IcerothTuplad, yea
20:38.01CIA-1103thrae * r7830 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTip.toc TinyTipAnchor.lua):
20:38.02CIA-11TinyTip - Restructed string concat to use .. instead of string.format, should be
20:38.02CIA-11a tiny bit faster. Now using AceHook embedded into the core instead of
20:38.02CIA-11TinyTipExtras, this should hopefully fix stack overflow issues and increase
20:38.02CIA-11compatibility. Cleaned up a little bit of code.
20:38.04Industrialhttp://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4994/wowscrnshot081206223427ii9.jpg
20:38.09IndustrialOpinions?
20:38.18Industrial(the centery thingy)
20:38.25CIA-1103thrae * r7831 10TinyTipExtras/ (TinyTipExtras.lua TinyTipExtras.toc): TinyTipExtras - Updated for change in TinyTip.
20:38.46CIA-1103thrae * r7832 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipChatLocale_enEN.lua TinyTipOptions.toc): TinyTipOptions - Updated for change in TinyTip.
20:39.39Gngskvery, texty
20:39.44Kyahx|afkidCombatText?
20:40.06CIA-1103thrae * r7833 10TinyTip/: TinyTip - Updated externals.
20:40.25CIA-1103thrae * r7834 10TinyTipExtras/: TinyTipExtras - Updated externals.
20:40.41CIA-1103thrae * r7835 10TinyTipOptions/: TinyTipOptions - Updated externals.
20:41.12ckknightbtw, I am working on the AceHook error now.
20:41.23CIA-1103thrae * r7836 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.lua: TinyTipOptions - whoops, option is still there
20:41.48Gngskanyone here use bartender2?
20:41.55ThraeHas been working OK for me with my 6 Ace2 Addons
20:42.01Gngskonce I put an action in a slot I can't move it around
20:42.22Gngskoh dur
20:42.29Gngskblizz interface options 'lock actionbars'
20:42.41TupladIndustrialhttp://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4994/wowscrnshot081206223427ii9.jpg
20:42.43Tupladwhat cetner thingy?
20:42.55Industrialthe text
20:42.58Gngsk'22 gray bear war 47'
20:43.04Gngsk'23 industrial pri 99 93'
20:43.06Tupladoh
20:43.07Industrialye
20:43.07Tupladphat!
20:43.27CIA-1103thrae * r7837 10ThraeFuncs/ (ThraeDruid.lua ThraeFuncs.lua): ThraeFuncs - ThraeFuncs_IsBuffActive now always returns the buff index or false. ThraeDruid_CC will now cancel Thorns on self before starting to cast Hibernate.
20:45.17Tekcub*whimper*
20:45.23Tekcubmy pokey's all melted together
20:45.31Tekcubpocky even
20:45.47ThraeTekcub: Ever figure out that CorkFu bug?
20:46.00Tekcubhavn't gotten to even test for it
20:46.10ThraeI was very confused about it. I reverted EVERYTHING back one step at a time and it's still not working anymore for me.
20:46.12Tekcubgetting DebugProfiler up to a useful state
20:46.32ThraeWait wait, stupid me -- reverting embedded libraries won't work if another addon still uses them
20:46.40Tekcub*nod nod*
20:46.43ThraeMaybe I had one enabled, I thought I disabled all Ace2 addons.
20:46.57ThraeHowever, I can tell you it's not CorkFu itself's fault, since I did revert that.
20:47.56Tekcubyea
20:48.12TekcubI know Aura is picking up auras correctly too cause rescan works
20:48.21Tekcubit's somewhere in the middle...
20:48.38Gngskwell, I have most of the setup that I'm used to with flexbar and statusbars implemented with oUF2 and Bartender2, now I just need to make it all hide/show on combat and gaining hostile target
20:49.08Gngskshould I just write a small little addon that will show/hide the frames on those events?
20:49.47Kyahx|afkGngsk: that sounds like the best idea
20:49.49ThraeTekcub: GetTopItem was ALWAYS returning true for em
20:49.59Thraes/em/me/
20:50.08Thraes/em/me/2
20:50.16Thrae~botslap
20:50.18purlACTION whimpers
20:50.26Tekcubkek
20:50.28ThraeThat was my bad regexp
20:50.31Thrae~slap Thrae
20:50.32purlACTION slaps Thrae, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
20:51.02Andalia_could anyone here please link the page with the exceptions for chars like ä
20:56.11CIA-1103hk2717 * r7838 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames-zhCN.lua:
20:56.11CIA-11ag_UnitFrames:
20:56.11CIA-11* Added zhCN localization.
20:56.11CIA-11* Added ability to auto select proper font files between different locales.
20:56.31CIA-1103hk2717 * r7839 10ag_UnitFrames/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
20:56.31CIA-11ag_UnitFrames:
20:56.31CIA-11* Added zhCN localization.
20:56.31CIA-11* Added ability to auto select proper font files between different locales.
21:01.39Tekcubckk, you handy?
21:01.59TupladI am I am, pick me pick me!
21:03.30DsanaiTek!
21:03.38CIA-1103hk2717 * r7840 10HostelBar/HostelBar.toc: HostelBar: minor zhCN update to toc.
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21:09.34[Liquidor]So what are folks doing atm?
21:11.37Soltanisworking on a guild website
21:12.04TekcubD!
21:12.27Tupladreading PIL
21:12.31KemayoPondering the best way to create unique identifiers for flight nodes.
21:14.35[Liquidor]Uhm maybe the name of the FP?
21:16.15KemayoI'd be storing names a lot, then.  It'd be nicer if I could cut my memory usage...
21:18.14ckknightTekcub, ping
21:18.28TekcubI rememed what I needed ya for the other day
21:18.31Tekcubtablet idea
21:18.35ckknightalright
21:18.58Tekcuboption to make clicking ot "column headers" sort the caterogy by that field
21:19.06ckknighthrm...
21:19.13Tekcubgah no typ gut
21:19.27ckknightthat'd be damn complicated...
21:20.29Tekcubyea I know, but I already employ some osrting crap in my tablets, doing it like that would kick major ass :)
21:20.36Tupladwtf happened to Bartender ?
21:20.45Tupladmy settings wiped and now I cant put anything on Bar2 & 3
21:20.49Tekcublike DebugProfiler, I'm tweaking the tablet crap with sorting as we speak
21:21.41Tekcuboh and one other kinda minor thingie ckk
21:21.50ckknightugh
21:21.58TekcubAceEvent's debug table doesn't store a count, only mem/time
21:22.00Tekcub:)
21:22.05ckknightso?
21:22.09Tekcubhard to get average usage without the count
21:22.12ckknightalright
21:22.14ckknightso add it in
21:22.17Tekcub:P
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21:24.38Kemayockknight:  If you're using AceDB-2.0 as a mixin, it should be providing YourAddon.FACTION, right?
21:24.44ckknightno.
21:25.14CIA-1103tekkub * r7841 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua:
21:25.14CIA-11Ace2 (AceEvent-2.0.lua)
21:25.14CIA-11- Debug profile now saves event counts
21:25.28KemayoI'll update the wiki on that front, then.
21:25.33ckknightthanks
21:25.34TekcubYourAddon.db.faction?
21:25.55ckknightAceDB2.FACTION == "Horde" or "Alliance"
21:26.13ckknightbut it's available at the very very start instead of after PLAYER_LOGIN
21:27.24KemayoSo, none of the .FACTION, .NAME, .CHAR_ID stuff is part of the public API?
21:27.38ckknightKemayo, none of it is exported
21:27.49ckknightbut it is part of the public API
21:28.10CIA-1103ckknight * r7842 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - fixed protostring
21:29.28KemayoOkay.  I added a brief remarks to the wiki clarifying htat.
21:29.35Kemayos/htat/that
21:30.17ckknightokay
21:30.35[Liquidor]This is hard :>
21:31.22Tekcub"Fatality!"   *giggle*
21:31.40KemayoThat has made getting errors much more bearable, I have to admit.
21:32.04CIA-1103ckknight * r7843 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - clarified difference between changing a read-only class and a read-only class prototype
21:32.32TekcubKem: get an OnUpdate error, they kick ass
21:32.41[Liquidor]Got a question about AceLocale. When registering a translation, how come the "enUS" list is set to TRUE as values while the other localizations are translated?
21:32.58ckknighttrue is not TRUE
21:33.04[Liquidor]Kind of a default thing? (The True value)
21:33.09[Liquidor]well "true" then.
21:33.24ckknight["alpha"] = true => ["alpha"] = "alpha"
21:33.48[Liquidor]ckknight, I know you're hardcore with this, but this is my first day with Ace, so I got some questions now and then :)
21:34.40[Liquidor]Hopefully not because of me?!
21:34.52ckknightnot just you
21:36.48Tuplad:O
21:38.29TainI blame global warming.
21:38.30CIA-1103ckknight * r7844 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - fixed icky "Cannot modify a read-only class prototype" error that occurs when upgrading AceHook.
21:38.35ckknightthere we are.
21:38.51[Liquidor]Awww what a cute application we got tonight :> http://na-guild.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2271
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21:40.47TupladKachuu fails at life, Liquidor
21:41.00CIA-1103ckknight * r7845 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - less icky fix.
21:41.02[Liquidor]huh? You know Kachuu? =)
21:41.24TainI pay him $5 to mow my lawn.
21:41.31Tupladand that post aint funny at all :\
21:42.18[Liquidor]Ofc it is, specially when you've just watched 1 hour of "Britains Worst Entertainer"
21:42.32TainAh it was a little funny.  The first time I saw it of course, which was probably a year ago
21:43.51TupladTain: indeed
21:43.57Tupladthe thing like 1 hit rangaros and shit is just lame
21:44.12TupladI had those sort of applications, but they were way funnier because some people actually took the time to make something up
21:44.13CIA-1103ckknight * r7846 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB - clarify copying option
21:45.06Mikmackknight: ooh you got it fixed :)
21:45.36Sarozanyone know how to add externals with TortoiseSVN?
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21:47.38KemayoSaroz:  Right-click on the folder, and choose 'properties'.  There's a Subversion tab.
21:47.59Sarozw00t, sexy
21:48.28ckknight_Saroz, http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Svn:external
21:49.12CIA-1103saroz * r7847 10sRaidFrames/libs/: sRaidFrames: Prepare libs folder to hold SVN externals
21:53.19Sarozok, another nub question, all these externals, they are loaded once, right? so if another addon loads AceEvent, it won't be loaded again when the second addon loads it in it's toc?
21:54.10ckknight_the file will load, it'll recognize its obselesence, then immediately return
21:54.44CIA-1103hk2717 * r7848 10GMail/ (GMail.toc GMail.xml localization.cn.lua): GMail: zhCN localization added.
21:55.41CIA-1103tekkub 07Ace2 * r7849 10FuBar_DebugProfiler/ (5 files):
21:55.41CIA-11FuBar_DebugProfiler
21:55.41CIA-11- AceEvent-2.0 module, wewtty!
21:55.41CIA-11- Tweaked some crap, tablets now show both memory and time infos
21:55.41CIA-11- Certain "special" frames (like metro and AceEvent-2.0's) are now blacklisted from the OnUpdate and OnEvent modules. I will be adding in modules for metro 1.0 and 2.0 shortly
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21:58.14JoshBorkehi :)
21:58.50CIA-1103hk2717 * r7850 10GMail/GMail.toc: GMail: well, added -ACE2- label to toc.
22:00.20Andalia_I can't find out how i can save the char "†" into a variable of my addon so that i can put it out ingame :(
22:01.07TekcubI FUCKING HATE THIS STUPID REDNECK TOO FUCKING HOT STATE
22:01.28TekcubI just tried to eat moldy bread... bread that's only 2 days old
22:01.46Tekcubit CO bread keeps a lot longer than two fucking days
22:01.49CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r7851 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua:
22:01.49CIA-11BulkMail:
22:01.50CIA-11- missed a nil check in last commit
22:02.12TekcubI didn't even thing "oh gee this bread is more than a day old, I better make sure it's still good before I eat it"
22:02.52KemayoI'm impressed by the speed of the mold.
22:03.12TainMaybe it's a super mutant mold that if you eat it will give you mutant powers.
22:03.15Tekcubyea, milk will coagulate overnight here
22:03.37Tekcub*cry*
22:03.42TekcubI can still taste it
22:05.34Tekcub"We Can RUn Away Now, They're All Dead and Gone" what a great title for a song
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22:07.36KemayoOoo... I see what you mean about those OnUpdate errors...
22:07.46Tekcubhehe
22:08.31Kemayotality tality tality!
22:09.12TainI still laugh thinking about someone once asking for help moving a frame when they log in.  They came back a while later and said, "I put in to add +10 to the 'x' value of setpoint in an OnUpdate and the frame flies off the screen when I log in!"
22:09.33CIA-1103ckknight * r7852 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - fix for options table if disabled and accessing through slash commands
22:11.22Tekcub"FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0"  What ya workin on ckk?
22:11.43ckknight_hehe.
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22:12.57ckknightKyahx, ping
22:12.58NeronixI can't type :(
22:13.02Kyahxckknight: what's up
22:13.07ckknightKyahx, regarding http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=152
22:13.11NeronixI chopped off the top of my left thumb at work
22:13.13ckknightyour keys and values are flipped
22:13.18Kyahxyea, im probley dumb :)
22:13.21MikmaNeronix: ouch wtf?
22:13.28ckknightjust flip em
22:13.31KyahxI can't
22:13.35ckknightyes you can
22:13.37ckknightI believe in you.
22:14.04Mikma:)
22:14.05KyahxThat would break oCB =/
22:14.26Kyahxor..atleast I don't know what I would have to change
22:14.28Kyahxto not break it
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22:15.01ckknightsorry, Kyahx, but that's not how AceOptions are made
22:15.57Kyahxfair enough :P  I just made a seperate validation table
22:16.12CIA-1103ckknight * r7853 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: LocationFu - bugfix
22:16.19ckknightright
22:19.15Laricckknight are all your fubar plugins gonna be fubar 2 soon or?
22:19.37ckknightLaric, I don't really have the time
22:19.55Kyahxthats what compatibilty layers are for!
22:19.55Laricok so you dont mind if ppl 'fix' em?
22:19.58ckknightLaric, if someone wants to take over some of my plugins, I'd be all for that
22:20.20Larickyahx the compability layer sure aint working 100%
22:20.29Kyahxoh?
22:20.36KyahxI havent see anything *shrug*
22:20.55Laricthere is a few plugins that doesnt work exactly the same as they did
22:21.23Lariclike the clock for instance.. some times it just doesnt get loaded.. some times it does
22:21.27CIA-1103sinaloit 07otravi * r7854 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/ (Libs/ oCB.toc):
22:21.28CIA-11oCB:
22:21.28CIA-11- Added Libs folder w/ externals
22:21.28CIA-11- Added Libs to .toc file
22:21.47KemayoMikma:  Any chance of Bartender2 having the option to not hide (and meddle with) the XP bar?
22:21.57ag`_I haven't had trouble with the clock
22:22.01MikmaKemayo: yes, XPBarNone
22:22.17KyahxDefault Blizzard bar is ugly :P
22:22.37ckknightLaric, ClockFu is 2.0 now :-P
22:22.47ckknightnot on wowi, but on svn
22:23.16KemayoI'm obviously weird for liking the default textures.  :-P
22:23.40Kyahxyep
22:23.42Kyahxlol
22:24.41ckknightsure are.
22:25.29Kyahx"3 bubbles away" is differant each level anywys, down with bubbles!
22:25.58ckknightI use percentage
22:26.07ckknightand 3 bubbles is 15%
22:26.11ckknightno matter what
22:27.19Kyahxhmm, I never made the connection between how much percent each bubble was :P
22:28.36NeronixMikma: I was cutting some mushrooms
22:28.47Neronixand some wanker didn't sharpen the knife quite right
22:29.00Neronixplus I wasn't careful enough ;P
22:29.21*** part/#wowace Zeryl (i=Zeryl@24-217-202-34.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
22:30.14MikmaNeronix: so, what happened? you wen't to hospital? you put same bandage on it? what?
22:32.07TekcubI hate the "bubbles" crap
22:32.13Tekcubwhat's wrong with %?
22:32.25Tekcubmake 1 bubble 10% damnit
22:34.49[Liquidor]Kyahx, 20 bubbles | 100% = 1 level | 1 bubble = 5
22:35.05[Liquidor]...% | ckknight: 3 bubbles = 15% :>
22:35.53ckknightTekcub, 1 bubble is 5%
22:36.00[Liquidor]I'm soon to give up on this addon :@
22:36.16Sarozlol, i converted sRaidFrames to use ace2 libs, it has like ZERO churn now
22:36.50Laricckknight that clock is 2.0 is the reason it started working again?
22:36.57Tekcubfucking bubbles
22:37.03ckknightI don't know
22:37.04[Liquidor]:>
22:38.16[Liquidor]How come it can't be as simple as Registering Events, your addon to AceAddon and execute functions upon events? :@ It prolly can but I don't know how it should be written as I got no documentation for it :-/
22:41.21CIA-1103pprovost * r7855 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (. Core.lua FuBar_PoisonFu.toc Icon.tga Libs/ License.txt): FuBar_PoisonFu - Initial import
22:45.02CIA-1103pprovost * r7856 10FuBar_PoisonFu/Libs/: FuBar_PoisonFu - Updated externals on Lib folder.
22:45.13CIA-1103grimwald * r7857 10ImprovedRWF/ImprovedRWF.toc:
22:45.13CIA-11ImprovedRWF:
22:45.14CIA-11* fixed FuBarPlugin-2.0 toc entry
22:46.38ckknightwhat's TWF?
22:46.55ckknight[Liquidor], what's your question?
22:47.51ShyvaRWF = RaidWarningFrame I think ckknight
22:47.54[Liquidor]2 sec, watching and drooling over http://www.break.com/movies_nsfw/nicole_in_black.html
22:51.28hasteIndustrial: welcome to the new and improved Cuddle Vendor
22:51.31Kemayockknight:  Any idea why the OneView fubar plugin doesn't remember its position?
22:51.42Industrialhaste, why sup what?
22:51.57Industrialwere a real guild now?
22:51.58Industrial:P
22:52.02hasteno :p
22:52.07hastebut we have a farmer
22:52.09ckknightKemayo, no
22:52.12Industrial*falls down anime style*
22:52.13hasteit's like, unique
22:52.27Gamefaqits not only oneview
22:52.32Industrialcool man
22:52.34Industrial:D
22:53.18CIA-1103tekkub 07Ace2 * r7858 10FuBar_DebugProfiler/ (7 files):
22:53.19CIA-11FuBar_DebugProfiler
22:53.19CIA-11- Added metrognome module, handles both v1.0 and v2.0, if available
22:54.04snurreokay, note to self: don't relog between chars while updating addons folder
22:54.22snurrejust about everything broke
22:54.23Amadeouh oh
22:54.34AmadeoI just updated an Ace2 mod and FuBar is gone, etc
22:54.47AmadeoI think it just updated Ace2 files too
22:55.17snurrethink thats the same thing as here
22:55.24snurrecouldnt see any ace addons working
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22:55.40Amadeoyeah
22:55.52Amadeoand since I use BugSack, I can't see the error now :P
22:56.00snurreoh
22:56.05snurremy bugsack worked
22:56.11snurreat least at the first reloga
22:56.18snurreand it was spamming errors.. badly
22:56.21Amadeogood thing for command line
22:56.41snurrebut we'll see how it goes once im done updating
22:57.31CIA-1103laric * r7859 10AoFHeal/Libs/:
22:57.31CIA-11AofHeal:
22:57.31CIA-11<PROTECTED>
22:58.19CIA-1103kyahx 07otravi * r7860 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2: Buff/Debuff toggling.
22:58.32Amadeockknight: Help!
22:58.48ckknightno.
22:58.51Amadeo:(
22:58.56ckknightfind the bug
22:59.26AmadeoI msg'd you
22:59.34KyahxAmadeo: update everything, see what happens
22:59.47Kyahxor disable all your mods, enable only FuBar, and see what happens
23:00.38Amadeook
23:01.06ag`_where's clad that sneaky bastard
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23:02.02snurrehmm works better now
23:02.08snurrebut still not updating
23:02.55CIA-1103pprovost * r7861 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_PoisonFu.toc): FuBar_PoisonFu - Checkpoint fixing a loading error. Not done with it yet, but back to a good place I think.
23:04.16*** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-66-176-173-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
23:04.23mjcmoo
23:05.07mjcis there a way to update a local svn from another local svn?
23:05.38Temmjc, yes
23:05.40mjcI have ~/Ace and I want to update my machines' addon folders from it
23:05.48mjcinstead of checking out 90809238094 timers
23:05.49mjctimes
23:06.06Temask kergoth about it the next time he's around
23:06.14mjckk
23:06.17mjckergoth: pingz0r
23:06.41snurre1,79MBytes transferred, at 1.97 KBytes/s
23:06.55snurrenerf updating /Addons/*
23:07.32Industrialomg haste
23:07.34Industrialpriceless
23:07.36Industrial'whats ninja'
23:07.38IndustrialxD
23:07.39Industrial:')
23:07.46*** join/#wowace Sole (n=no@203.118.159.21)
23:07.47Solehi
23:07.49Industriallo
23:08.59Sarozunder which conditions are OnDisable called?
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23:09.20CIA-1103id * r7862 10/trunk/ (Core.lua idUnitWatch.toc): idUnitWatch: initial import
23:09.28hasteIndustrial: yeh, it's a real farmer :p
23:09.28Industrialoh crap
23:09.29Industrial:P
23:09.32[Liquidor]Oh.. I can't PM when no registered aight? -.-
23:09.38hasteyou can't
23:09.41[Liquidor]That's why I get no answers -.-
23:09.54[Liquidor]lalal
23:10.16Industrial<PROTECTED>
23:10.57CIA-1103id * r7863 10/trunk/ (Core.lua idUnitWatch.toc): idUnitWatch: made a booboo, removing
23:11.08mjcsnurre: haha
23:11.25Industrialwork, work!
23:11.36CIA-1103id * r7864 10idUnitWatch/ (. Core.lua idUnitWatch.toc): idUnitWatch: initial import
23:11.37mjcsnurre: tr000
23:11.40Industrialvictory!
23:11.55CIA-1103tekkub 07Ace2 * r7865 10FuBar_DebugProfiler/ (AceEvent-2.0.lua Metrognome.lua OnEvent.lua OnUpdate.lua):
23:11.55CIA-11FuBar_DebugProfiler
23:11.55CIA-11- AceEvent module now shows libraries properly (instead of table:0xffffffff)
23:11.55CIA-11- Enhanced tablet sorting a bit, less jumpy entries.
23:12.27Sarozif I override OnDisable(), will Aceevent still unregister events etc?
23:13.02NeronixYeah
23:13.06Saroznice
23:13.10NeronixWell, AceDB even
23:13.25NeronixIt calls OnEmbedDisable on every mixin your mod has
23:13.47IndustrialI need someone to help me tweak some colours with idUnitWatch. Currently an anoying thing in the middle of your screen. pleeease? =D
23:14.34Amadeockknight: works now :)
23:14.40Amadeook, bbiab guys
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23:14.42Industrialcya
23:14.58Tekcubrighto, Debug profiler's all good to go now :)
23:15.01Industrialhaste, wanna help out a bit on that colour thingy?
23:15.16Tekcubjust needs proper externals and I can merge it back over
23:19.17Nightdewshit.. what event is thrown when you unmount?
23:19.21Nightdewor unstealth
23:21.01hyperChipmunkprobably buff-changed somethingoranother
23:21.07hasteIndustrial: I'm in the middle of BRD tho'
23:21.14CIA-1103kemayo * r7866 10FuBar_ToFu/ToFu.lua: FuBar_ToFu: Use less tables for data storage.
23:21.54Industrialhaste, o well it doesnt destroy your screen :P (on the contrart its only 8 lines of text at max)
23:22.00Industrialhaste, after the instance?
23:22.12hastesure, after ;)
23:28.25Tekcub*ponder* is there a simple command in windows to mass-rename
23:28.44Tekcublike change *.mp4 to *.mp4.avi
23:32.27ag`_not included I would think
23:32.39ag`_maybe a batch file could work, I don't know
23:32.48hasteTekcub: download the linux tools for windows
23:33.06Tekcubrename *.mp4 *.mp4.avi works
23:33.19TekcubI figgured it wouldn't like the wildcards
23:33.40ag`_bai bai!
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23:37.42CIA-1103pprovost * r7867 10FuBar_PoisonFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_PoisonFu.toc Icon.tga License.txt): FuBar_PoisonFu: Checkpoint - still fixing a loading error.
23:49.59[Liquidor]Flash Animations Fight Back - http://www.break.com/index/flash_animations_fight_back.html
23:50.14[Liquidor]Just in case you feel a little stressed. It's 2 min long or so
23:51.17Mikmathere's also a highend version of that
23:51.28TemThrae, ping
23:51.32Mikmai think the original is .swf
23:54.21Solehmm
23:54.29Solehow would I convert a string to the name of a frame?
23:54.52Solejust doing  string:IsVisible() errorss
23:57.10Solenvm figured it out
23:57.38[Liquidor]Tem, what does it mean when you guys do "Name, Ping" ?
23:58.02TemI want their attention
23:58.37Temso I do <nick>, ping
23:58.50Temmost IRC clients beep when someone says your nick
23:58.59Temso it gets their attention
23:59.30CIA-1103kyahx * r7868 10Transcriptor/libs/: Transcriptor: Adding libs folder for Ace2 conversion.

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