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00:01.31ckknightthe code is bad.
00:01.43ckknightactually less efficient than before
00:01.50ThraeHuh?
00:02.05ThraeOK OK
00:02.33Thrae%s/AceEvent:IsEventRegistered(\(.\+\))/((AceEvent_registry and AceEvent_registry[\1]) or AceEvent_IsEventRegistered(AceEvent,\1))/g
00:02.49ckknightno.
00:03.11ckknightsee, if AceEvent_registry[\1] evaluates to false, AceEvent_IsEventRegistered(AceEvent,\1) will still be run
00:03.28ThraeAhhh stupid me
00:04.09Thrae%s/AceEvent:IsEventRegistered(\(.\+\))/((AceEvent_registry and AceEvent_registry[\1]) or (not AceEvent_registry and AceEvent_IsEventRegistered(AceEvent,\1)))/g
00:04.18ThraeStill, my regexp doesn't work =/
00:05.36ckknight.\+?
00:06.16Thrae(.+), just like in Lua string.find
00:06.39ThraeExcept with Unix regexp it's .\+
00:08.19CIA-1103otravi * r7238 10oCD/ (core.lua hooks.lua oCD.toc):
00:08.19CIA-11oCD:
00:08.19CIA-11- Now movable.
00:08.19CIA-11- Ability to set growth direction.
00:08.19CIA-11- Ability to set a minimum and a maximum cooldown limit.
00:08.36ckknightThrae, um, it shouldn't be.
00:08.49ckknightin times I've used it...
00:08.59Tuplad<PROTECTED>
00:10.22Thraeckknight: Not in vim
00:10.29ckknightThrae, okay
00:11.23CIA-1103tekkub * r7239 10BigWigs/Core.lua:
00:11.23CIA-11BigWigs
00:11.23CIA-11- Fixed core's targetting registration when registering new modules. It was still running the old logic, not sending it to the target monitoring module.
00:15.28CIA-1103tekkub * r7240 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua TargetMonitor.lua):
00:15.28CIA-11BigWigs
00:15.28CIA-11- Moved target-based module enabling into core
00:16.03CIA-1103tekkub * r7241 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs - Forgot to save before commit ><
00:20.05kergothhaste_: hurray!
00:20.46*** join/#wowace ag` (n=andreasg@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
00:21.32ckknighthey ag`
00:21.39ag`hi
00:21.58Thraekergoth: You're a vim wiz, right?
00:22.29ThraeWhy isn't this working: http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender2/durids.jpg
00:22.32ThraeOops
00:22.47hyperChipmunkcat durid is for fite!
00:22.51snurrehm, isnt scaling working in bartender2?
00:22.59Thrae%s:AceEvent\:IsEventRegistered(\(.\+\))/((AceEvent_registry and AceEvent_registry[\1]) or (not AceEvent_registry and AceEvent_IsEventRegistered(AceEvent,\1))):g
00:24.16ThraeWhen I use that regexp in gvim, it only makes 1 substitution per line and does AceEvent_registry(\1) instead of AceEvent_registry[\1], which baffles me
00:28.31ckknightchange / to :?
00:29.42Thraeckknight: Typo when I typed it out, I already had it correct
00:32.18tekkubah what to do
00:32.58tekkubcode, work on sorting out my music collection some more, clean the cat litter box so Fuzzy can bury his poop, or piddle around and accomplish nothing?
00:33.13tekkubhttp://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20060801 <--- My cat, Fuzzy
00:36.45tekkubOneView is Kael's right?
00:36.52hyperChipmunkyes
00:37.57tekkubRequest for all the users of FlySpray... Don't use your "real name", I can't figgure out who's who
00:38.08tekkubckk is exempt from that
00:38.27hyperChipmunkit uses it by default
00:38.34ckknightright, cause I am who I am
00:38.36hyperChipmunkit doesn't use your username
00:38.40ckknightI don't hide behind a handle.
00:38.56ckknighthyperChipmunk, so set your name to Hyperactive Chipmunk
00:39.08hyperChipmunki did change it
00:39.20AmadeohyperChipmunk has f'ing 7000 HP as a Hunter
00:39.23hyperChipmunkbut it isn't obvious
00:39.26AmadeoHe needs nerfing
00:39.37tekkubckk, Tekkub be my name :P
00:39.38hyperChipmunk8500 buffed now =D
00:39.41Amadeohahah
00:39.45tekkubmore people know me by it
00:39.49ckknightTekkub Stoutwrithe, we know.
00:39.52tekkubit's engraved inside my hubby's ring
00:40.01ckknightlol.
00:40.02Mikmatekkub: well atleast your cat burys it poops, our don't
00:40.15tekkubMik: he tries, when there's litter
00:40.25tekkubeven then he's a smelly lil bitch
00:40.39tekkuband he likes to push the closet door open all the way and announce it
00:40.47tekkubyou close the door he'll re-open it
00:40.58tekkubI need to put a sping on the funcking thing
00:41.07tekkubspring, fucking... even
00:41.16ckknightone of the automatic door closer things?
00:41.53tekkubwhere is K anyway
00:41.56tekkubI need my tranqs
00:42.02tekkubI NEEDS MAH K!
00:44.00snurrehm.. i need a GrowUp option for aguf partyframes
00:45.27tekkubckk... can you make heads or fluffy tails of this one? http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=102
00:45.41ckknightnot sure how fluffy.
00:47.24ckknightno damn idea
00:47.29*** part/#wowace Amadeo (i=amadeo@c-69-140-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
00:47.32tekkubheh, me neither
00:49.08Thrae#vim helped me out with :s%AceEvent:IsEventRegistered("\([^"]*\)")%((AceEvent_registry and AceEvent_registry["\1"]) or (not AceEvent_registry and AceEvent_IsEventRegistered(AceEvent,"\1"))%
00:50.02tekkubmaia you around?
00:51.42Thraetekkub: By the way, can we get a more powerful disable option to CorkFu? I still need to reload my UI about 1-5 times per instance to make sure CorkFu is always working.
00:51.58tekkub"make sure" ?
00:52.01ThraeSo whatever reloading the UI is doing, disabling and re-enabling CorkFu should do the same thing.
00:52.03tekkubwhat's the hangup?
00:52.29ThraeSometimes CorkFu just gets stuck and stops working. No error, just stops displaying who needs bfufs.
00:52.31tekkubCork relies heavily on SEAura you know
00:52.36Thraes/bfufs/buffs/
00:52.59ThraeYeah, I have the latest versions of CorkFu and its libs/
00:53.08tekkubI still am trying to pin down what's causing the SEA issues
00:53.22tekkubbut it's probably someone not handling compost correctly
00:53.49CIA-1103otravi * r7242 10oCD/hooks.lua: oCD - No longer errors when using Bagnon.
00:53.54tekkubwhich is hopefully more detectable in Compost-2.0, but Cork uses SEA-1 which uses compost-1
00:54.12tekkubit's one of those "i need to conver this shit, someday" things
00:54.19tekkubconvert event
00:54.23tekkubeven, even
00:54.28tekkubblah
00:55.01Thraetekkub: Could you make it reset the compost table or whatnot upon enable?
00:55.14tekkubyou don't understand
00:55.28tekkubthe issue is some either double-reclaiming a table or not niling their ref
00:55.39tekkubthen later, after the table is given to someone else, changing it
00:56.40tekkubI added stuff to detect double-reclaims to C2
00:56.40Tuplad<PROTECTED>
00:56.40tekkuband it'll check that a table is really blank before it passes it out, but I can't geuarentee that someone else is niling out properly
00:57.10*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)
00:57.13tekkubso basically, one bad mod can fuck over all compost-using mods...
00:57.32tekkuband unless someone shows me a way to find out everyone that's holding a ref to a table, there's nothing I can do
00:57.44ckknightmany of the Ace2 libs use an internal compost-style setup
00:57.50Thraetekkub: The only other addon using CompostLib-1.0 is Fubar itself.
00:58.00ThraeFubar-1.2, sorry.
00:58.03tekkubyea, per-mod compost heaps may be needed soon
00:58.18tekkubyou're certain of that?
00:58.32tekkubfu-1.2 mods can use compost and don't have to include it in the folder
00:58.35ckknightin Ace2, it's great, cause I know that for every table that is created, it is destroyed
00:58.42ckknightat least for the setups I use
00:58.51tekkubQuestFu was being a bitch about compost, but I think I got it all patched up
00:58.53ckknighttekkub, FuBar-1.2 uses Compost-1
00:59.06ckknightFuBar-2.0 doesn't use Compost at all
00:59.12tekkubyea ckk, I know
00:59.39tekkub*ponder* maybe I should add "protected heaps" to compost-2.0
00:59.49ckknightprotected heaps?
00:59.52tekkubthen an addon can make sure it's tables aren't given to others
01:00.14tekkubyea, request your own compost heap, instead of using the one global one
01:00.36tekkubI'd prolly make the heap completely weak too, so that I don't save any tables...
01:00.49ckknightCompost:RequestHeap("FuBar"):Acquire()
01:00.55ckknightlike that?
01:01.06tekkubit wouldn't be as great of memory savings as the current design, but it would stop these issues caused by bad mods
01:01.17tekkubyea basically
01:01.26tekkubprolly more like how AceLocale works
01:01.47tekkublocal C = AceLibrary("Compost-2.0"):RequestHeap("CorkFu")
01:02.04ckknightlocal t = C()
01:02.05tekkubC:Acquire() -- returns a table only CorkFu can use
01:02.13tekkubor that too :)
01:02.40ckknightsee, I don't see myself using compost too much anymore
01:02.47tekkubI know ya don't
01:02.51ckknightwith Tablet and Dewdrop, it's pretty unnecessary
01:02.55tekkubthat's fine, you got the table mastery down
01:03.04ckknightI mean, I don't have to recycle the goddamn things
01:03.13tekkubyea, blizzy's dropdowns is what inspired compost in the first place
01:03.27tekkubwell, the dropdown and SEAura
01:03.47tekkubmaybe I'll just embed a mini--compost into Aura-2.0
01:04.05ckknightfeel free to check out the new and del methods in the Ace2 libs
01:04.10ckknightit's basically as optimized as possible
01:04.12Mikmazomglol
01:04.19Mikma2x wildhearts in 1 LBRS
01:04.19ckknightit's just local t = new()
01:04.22ckknightt = del(t)
01:04.22tekkubcause it's mostly using it for multi-level reclaim followed by immediate acquires
01:04.32ckknightI don't have multi-level reclaim, though
01:04.33ckknight:-P
01:04.51tekkubit's easy to implement, and Aura-2.0 only needs one level deep
01:05.32ckknightalright
01:05.44tekkubyea, I think that's the best solution really
01:08.05ag`what is aura-2.0
01:08.18tekkubSpecialEvents-Aura-2.0
01:08.40CIA-1103grimwald * r7243 10BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_NefCount.lua:
01:08.40CIA-11BigWigs_NefCount:
01:08.40CIA-11* Target registering now handled by Core
01:08.44Mikmaludwig is completing my words :(
01:08.58Mikmai wan't to make it stoooooop and have a backup like kaelten has
01:09.45Mikmai tried to type [img] and got a Grimgore Noose as itemlink :D
01:10.10ThraeAh I was mistaken. Damn Windows find command.
01:10.11CIA-1103otravi * r7244 10oCD/ (core.lua hooks.lua): oCD - Pet support, toggle will come.
01:10.20CIA-1103ckknight * r7245 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - profile now no longer shows up in the individual options menus.
01:12.10ThraeWho made PeriodicTable?
01:12.20ThraeWasn't it tekkub?
01:12.25tekkubyes
01:12.50Thraetekkub: The other other lua file using compost-1 besides your addons is GloryLib.
01:13.05tekkubokey
01:13.23tekkubwell don't fret over it, I'm converting Aura-2.0 to use internal composting
01:13.25ThraeSo, obviously it's ckknight's fault ;)
01:13.32tekkubI'll prolly do that to Arua-1 also
01:13.34ckknightI blame hippies.
01:13.49tekkubI'm not even sure it's compost, but it probably is
01:14.06tekkubthe only other thing I can figger is the Gratuity tooltip is getting "disloged"
01:14.13ThraeWait wait, BagFu and BattlegroundFu also use it, but I disable BattlegroundFu in instances and BagFu is too simplistic...
01:14.21tekkuband you should be able to know if that's happened if other gratuity mods are dying
01:14.30tekkubbut I havn't had reports of that in some time
01:16.42Thraetekkub: By the way, I don't know if you heard this, but rophy claimed that "Using CompostLib made his table-heavy ParserLib 20-30% slower"
01:17.08tekkubokey... uhm... so?
01:17.43ThraeHowever if you look at his code, he's creating tables to send to functions ala function({"Entry1","Entry2"}), then putting the newly created table into a CompostLib table
01:17.43tekkubI'd honesly rather that other libs learn from Compost and implement shit themselves :)
01:17.48tekkubokey so he's an idiot
01:17.52tekkub:P
01:17.52ThraeSo the reason his code is slowing down is because of all the table copying
01:18.02tekkubuh, yea proly
01:18.33ThraeJust wanted to dispel the rumor if you've already heard it ;)
01:18.35tekkubdoes he fail to understand that compost is meant to eliminate any {...} table declarations?
01:18.57ThraeParserLib uses function({"Entry1","Entry2"}) quite a lot
01:19.19tekkuband yes, compost is slower than declaring new tables, you're spending processing time to save memory churn
01:19.34tekkubnote to self, don't use ParserLib
01:20.01ThraeWitchHunt has been converted over to use it
01:23.56ckknightAce2's compost-style table handling is quite fast
01:24.02ckknightthere's no extras like Tek has
01:24.16ckknighte.g. new() doesn't take arguments
01:25.04Thraeckknight is subtly saying tek's code is dumb ;)
01:25.19ckknightno, merely inefficient for my purposes.
01:25.35ckknightI want Ace2 to be fast as possible
01:26.51Mikmahttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2989
01:26.56Mikmai'm giving this a go
01:27.38CIA-1103ckknight * r7246 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: AceComm - optimizations, oh my!
01:28.09ThraeMikma: BulkMail + AH_MailCollect?
01:28.23ThraeThey've been working fine for me...
01:28.24*** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@220-245-171-242.tpgi.com.au)
01:28.47MikmaThrae: yeah i know, but i still have to give that a go just to see how it does the same work :)
01:28.52MikmaThrae: and i use GMail atm ;)
01:31.13ckknightokay, apparently AnduinLothar doesn't care about compost or memory churn because it doesn't matter to him, since he has 1.5 gigs of ram.
01:31.22Mikmaymf
01:31.24Mikmakickban him
01:31.37Mikmano wonder he's an ass about addons then
01:31.43Mikma~lozareth
01:31.49purlA man who stole your FPS and Memory aka The Boogyman of http://www.discordmods.com/ - "I got mem so why not use it"
01:31.59tekkubAL is a tard, please do not repeat his tardery into this channel, ho is one of the main reasons I don't go into wowilounge
01:32.12ckknightwe're just /msg'ing
01:32.14tekkubhe's one of the few people that can illicit blind rage from me
01:32.24tekkubI don't want cair to have to moderate me :P
01:32.38ckknighthe's like "I'm sorry I'm a douche, but isn't it possible you're a douche too?"
01:32.44ckknightand I'm like "no, it's just you."
01:32.48Mikmagood
01:32.52tekkubkek
01:32.56Mikmabecause you're not
01:33.06tekkubat least he realizes his doucherly ways
01:33.16tekkubthe first step is admitting you're a douche...
01:33.16ckknightactually, I think it was a fake apology
01:33.23Mikmai think he only said that just to get ckknight to admit the same
01:33.37tekkubckk's not a douche, he's a turd
01:33.38Mikmagood thing that he didn't fall for it
01:33.43tekkubI vote for the turd
01:33.49ckknight<AnduinLothar> i'm not really excited to add function overhead to solve gc issues
01:33.53Mikmapurl: ckknight++
01:34.03ckknightTurd Sandwich!
01:34.52Mikmackknight: now that you're /msg'ing with him i must tell you that...
01:34.57MikmaGET OUT OF THERE IT'S A TRAP!!!
01:35.02ckknighthehe
01:35.04ckknightprobably.
01:35.10ckknightbut my arguments are good.
01:35.44ckknightbasically, he said he's sorry he was so whiny, but I probably shouldn't be so mean-spirited. And I'm like, I don't care, you emo-douche.
01:36.06Mikmatell him the lamp-story about him again
01:36.11Mikmai'm sure he'll appreciate it
01:36.32ckknightlamp?
01:36.43tekkubI've taken a great liking to the word "emo" lately
01:36.45ckknightI told him that Cosmos was haunted.
01:36.51Mikmahow many emo's does it take to replace a lightbulb
01:36.54tekkubespecially when watching Anime
01:36.56Mikmaetc
01:37.23tekkubwe started watching Naruto yesterday
01:37.27ckknightIt doesn't matter anyway, they just sit in the dark and cry.
01:37.55tekkuband there's this bit when he cuts his hand to get out some poison and he has a lil self-intrspect "I swear on this pain... " blah blah thing
01:38.15tekkuband I'm throwing crap at the TV yelling "stop cutting yourself ya lil emo bitch"
01:38.24tekkub"go fight asshole!"
01:38.56Thraetekkub: Heh, him cutting himself is foreshadowing for later, because the wound heals in a few hours and leaves no scar.
01:39.34tekkuboh oh oh and get this, we have this lady at work, she's like 43, every time she's put on drivethru and gets like 5 cars she freaks out and usually starts crying (literally) and whining at everyone to help her
01:39.45tekkubso the managers make sure she's ALWAYS on drive
01:39.46ThraeIf you want emo, look at Sasuke. He is the Emo/Angst king.
01:40.02tekkubyea thrae I know the wound healed fast :P
01:40.17tekkubI don't know the chars yet, we're like 6 eps in
01:40.32ThraeSasuke is the angsty guy, Naruto's rival.
01:40.41haste_naruto >.<
01:41.06ThraeI got bored with Naruto after around episode 170
01:41.07Mikmatekkub: lol whats wrong with the lady
01:41.11tekkubso yea, Karla's like the big joke of the store, she crys to the customers (literally) about how she has to do all the work, it great fun
01:41.16ThraeBleach is still good.
01:41.21haste_I got bored of naruto at episode 48
01:41.29tekkubno clue mik, she whines about high blood preasure too
01:41.37haste_Thrae: Seen NHK :D ?
01:41.44Thraehaste_: Yeah, it's hilarious
01:41.53haste_so kewl :D
01:42.04Mikmatekkub: sounds like she needs to see how fast a bullet comes out of a barrel of gun ;)
01:42.04tekkubit's like, duh!  Stop getting worked up over cars, you work FUCKING FAST FOOD!  The world's not gonna end if some bitch doesn't get her milkshake in 2 min
01:42.13ThraeThat reminds me, I need to burn the episodes I have so far for my Mom, she loves that stuff.
01:42.20tekkuboh she's fun to fuck with
01:42.36Mikmai can almost see the picture in my head haha
01:42.43Mikma"wah wah"
01:42.56tekkubfew days back she was all worked up, I'm helping people get icecream, had a customer waiting at my register that I couldn't get to... other girl's also getting ice cream...
01:43.22tekkubKarla come over, bawling, "I NEED HELP OVER HERE!"... I'm mid-sundae...
01:44.16tekkubI say "I'm helping customers..." she turn arond, walks by Sharaya and she yells at Karla, right in front of the big line of customers... "KARLA!  Can't you see we have our own customers to help!"
01:44.40Mikmalol
01:44.54tekkubKalra makes whatever it was she needed, hands it to the car waiting, still crying... "I'm sorry it took so long, I had to do everything myself!"
01:45.16Mikmaeverything myself...
01:45.27tekkubexact quote
01:45.29Mikmaumh, why does he work in a place like that if he don't wan't to do things?
01:45.35tekkuband she was very literally crying
01:46.02tekkubno, she's supposed to have someone helping her get the stuff while she takes the orders and cashes out the people
01:46.03Mikmaeverything myself! i wonder what would be my reaction if someone at mcdonalds drivethrough would say the same
01:46.19tekkubbut it doesn't always happen, especially if we get a bunch of people inside
01:46.51tekkubyou want to know the best part of all of this?
01:47.01tekkubthat was like sat... sun she was off...
01:47.15tekkubtoday there was a box of tissues at the drive register when she came in
01:47.23Mikmahaha
01:47.26cladhairetekkub: Its sad.. but people like that always work at mcdonalds.. its.. some curse.
01:47.31tekkubisn't that so cruel?  I love our managers
01:47.34Mikmai hope she did took it well...
01:47.55tekkubshe doesn't get that they're making fun of her, or she's in deep denial
01:48.39Mikmai would understand if that karla would be a little.. slow person, but if she's 100% normal?
01:49.46tekkuboh yea, and a few min after the incident I wander back and Amelia's standing there with a broom... she says "I need your help!"... we both then duck into the milk room before we started laughing... Karla was on the other side of the shake machines at the time
01:50.20Mikmahaha :D
01:50.25tekkubwell she's fairly churchy, but otherwise no slower than any other Arkansian
01:51.18Mikmawell i see "fairly churchy" folks as "fairly emotinal" too :D
01:51.26Mikma"wah wah"
01:51.32tekkubheh, yea
01:52.15Mikma(btw, the addon i did try kinda sucks. all it has is massmail with alt+click)
01:52.23tekkubI should crack a comment about "worshiping a big imaginary man in the sky" and see what she does
01:52.53CIA-1103grimwald * r7247 10ImprovedRWF/Core.lua:
01:52.53CIA-11ImprovedRWF:
01:52.53CIA-11* Fixed a typo
01:52.53Mikmamight get terribly emo and tell you that you are anti-christ
01:53.10tekkuboh she knows about me :)
01:53.41tekkubshe fell into the "oh I have no issues with that if you blah blah own home blah balh" defense
01:53.52tekkubso I make sure I point out every bear I like to her
01:54.02Mikmahahaha
01:54.02tekkuband there's lots of "bubbas" down here :)
01:54.07Mikmathat's so nice of you :D
01:54.23ckknighttekkub, lol
01:54.35ckknightsexual harassment ftw
01:54.39clad|sleepnight all
01:54.45tekkubhell, we had a construction crew come in today, every one of em big and fuzzy
01:54.45ckknightcya, clad
01:54.50Mikmathere's something terribly wrong about churchy people
01:55.05tekkubI'm like, see the guy in the bright yellow thingy, he's damn woofy"
01:55.08tekkub"which one?"
01:55.12tekkub"all of them"
01:55.22Mikmawhy didn't you make a sign there what said "David's heaven" (david, right? :D)
01:55.38tekkub:P
01:56.31haste_does anyone remember what the in-game video overlay addon was named?
01:56.39Mikmai haven't had the pleasure to figure out what's going in in religious people mind
01:56.41ckknightwhat gets called when you do /chatinfo <channel>
01:56.51Mikmanobody can't understand them quite well
01:57.11Mikmathey have so different principals and "laws" what "god" has told them to obay ^^
01:57.38Mikmaall i can say is after 1 month, when my weddings are gone, i will resign from church
01:57.39ckknightcapital G when referencing the Abrahamic god
01:57.52haste_nevermind, found it
01:58.02Mikmackknight: oh yeah i forgot about that one
01:58.03ckknightI'm happy in my beliefs
01:58.05Mikmagod god god
01:58.11MikmaGod God God
01:58.19tekkubI'm quite happy in mine too
01:58.21ckknightI'm not preachy or churchy
01:58.32ckknightand I don't want to force my beliefs on anyone
01:58.37Mikmaneutral is the way to fo on everything this world has to offer
01:58.41ckknightand I don't want anyone forcing theirs on me
01:58.50ckknightwhether they be religious or anti-religious
01:59.48tekkubexactly ckk
01:59.52Mikmai'm actually thinking the same. I still don't wan't the jehova's witnesses to come behind my door on sunday to tell me how "yes" the religion is
02:00.01tekkubmy only core value is don't impose your values on others
02:00.02ckknightMikma, I like to argue with em
02:00.15tekkubI like JW's
02:00.18ckknightI have quite an expansive religious knowledge
02:00.21Mikmackknight: that's a funny thing, many people say the same
02:00.22tekkubthey're easy to fuck with
02:00.54Mikmathere was this video about 2 JW's going completely mad about something
02:01.02tekkubI just yell at the hubby....
02:01.04Mikmathey tried to beat up the kids who did a prank on them
02:01.15ckknightMikma, I've read the Bible, the Qur'an, the Bhagavad Gita, the Book of Satan, the Book of Mormon, the Teachings of the Buddha, and many philosophers' works
02:01.15KyahxJust tell the JW's that you can't join them becuase you like Girl Scout cookies way too much.
02:01.22KyahxThey're not allowed to eat GS cookies :P
02:01.28tekkub"Hey dear, we got witnesses!  Oh and this one is just your type, I bet he'd love to get his ass fucked!"
02:01.29ckknightMikma, that was awesome
02:01.31ckknightKyahx, why?
02:01.36Mikmackknight: nice achievement, really!
02:01.52ckknightMikma, thusly, my beliefs most closely resemble Hinduism
02:01.53KyahxSomething to do with GS supporting another religion or the goverment or something
02:01.59ckknightwell, without that Karma stuff
02:02.05Kyahxdunno, I just know they're not suppose to buy / eat the cookies
02:02.30ckknightJWs also don't like the UN
02:02.32tekkubusually I leave them with "Come back when your god doesn't hate my people"
02:02.36Mikmahmm, buddhaism / hinduism would propably be "the ones" that i WOULD be interested
02:02.53tekkubdid I mention that I lived 3 blocks from a JW church and that the never visited us again?
02:02.54ckknightMikma, Hinduism is quite nice once you remove all the gods and karma
02:03.10ckknighttekkub, hehe
02:03.18tekkubbuddhism is the chubby-chaser's religion
02:03.29Mikmameditation would be nice thing to do to clear your mind every now and then...
02:03.30tekkubI like buddhists personally
02:03.37tekkubI know a lama-bear once
02:03.40tekkubhe was odd...
02:03.44Mikmasometimes there's just too much crap inside the ball that needs to be forgotten
02:03.58Kyahxhttp://www.geocities.com/heartland/2919/reasons.html
02:04.03ckknightMikma, hypnosis can be very helpful to dealing with some stuff
02:04.04Kyahx:) lol
02:04.08tekkubbut he gave me my nickname that the hubby won't let me use
02:04.12ckknightbtw, meditation is just self-hypnosis
02:04.20tekkub<-- Drey Prug Glen, or Drey for short
02:04.31tekkubhubby doesn't like it, it rhymes with Trey
02:04.58tekkub"Silly Cub"  *grin*
02:05.12Mikmaumf, what the hell? "Jehovah God is not a Trinity" ?
02:05.22ckknightright, Mikma
02:05.23Mikmawhat in the earth does that even mean
02:05.34ckknightin JWs, they're three separate entities
02:05.39tekkubgod, the son, and the holy ghost-dad
02:05.45Mikmaoh...
02:05.52ckknightnot a single one in three different forms
02:05.57ckknightwhich is what the trinity is all about
02:06.09ckknighthow Jesus is really God incarnate
02:06.13ckknighttherefore he is God
02:06.22tekkubhot kinky diety 3-way!
02:06.30Mikmahehe
02:06.30ckknightsorta, only without penises
02:06.42tekkuboh god,'s got a big ol one
02:06.44Mikma:D
02:06.46ckknightno way
02:06.51ckknightSatan castrated God
02:06.54tekkubit's like, huge
02:06.56ckknightthat's why he had to leave.
02:07.03tekkuband like, floppy
02:07.11tekkub<PROTECTED>
02:07.13ckknightyea, God'd be pretty old now
02:07.16ckknightneeds Viagra
02:07.36tekkubballs prolly dangle past his knees
02:07.43Kyahxhaha, BigWigs 2 plays the victory sound for every add before osirian >.>
02:07.49tekkubit's like boob-sag in old women
02:07.49MikmaAAAARGH! the picture in my head
02:07.55Mikmatake it off!
02:07.58Kyahxthat seems unncesisarily epic :P
02:08.07Mikma"<tekkub> balls prolly dangle past his knees"
02:08.13tekkubMik: big floppy god dick!
02:08.42Mikmai still can have that one but the testicles were kinda out of limits :D
02:08.45tekkubKya, yea that module should prolly not fire the victory sound when it disables, file a ug
02:08.48tekkubbug even
02:09.12Mikmathat reminds me of the video where the aboriginal can sit on his sack...
02:09.16Mikmathat's impressive
02:09.17Kyahx*shrug* or just fix it quick
02:09.39Kyahxit should jsut be a matter of removeing one line right?
02:09.40tekkuba kid in my Pre-clac class sat on himself once in class
02:09.42tekkubit was great
02:09.47Mikmaoh, and there was this damn document on TV about a dude who had injected his penis and testicles full of silicone
02:09.53Mikmai mean they were huge
02:10.03Mikmalike the size of the dudes head + more
02:10.17tekkubhe like, got up and did a problem on the board, everyone was watching... sits down, kinda hard... gets this look... doubles over onto the table
02:10.25tekkubwe're all like, what's wrong?
02:10.36tekkubteacher runs over ask him if he's okey
02:10.58tekkubhe says something to her, she backs up a tad and goes "oh..."
02:11.23tekkubso we ask her, and being the evil insane nutjobs she is, she says "oh he just sat on himself"
02:11.27Mikmahow in the hell can you sit on yourself? hmm
02:11.48tekkubaparently he's got big floppy god balls :)
02:11.55Mikmahehe...
02:12.00Mikma+ he don't use underwear...
02:12.10ThraeProbably sat in such a way he gave himself a wedgie / bad ball location
02:12.13tekkubI loved that teacher, once she rummaged thru his bag when he was in the bathroom and found porn
02:12.32tekkubshe made sure the whole class knew too, but made us swear we wouldn't tell
02:17.36Mikma6. Heaven is limited only to 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses
02:17.42Mikmagetting crowded soon
02:17.52Mikmawhat happens to the jehovas left out?
02:17.58KyahxToo bad
02:18.03KyahxDidnt sell enough books
02:18.11Mikmais it like "too bad, so sad"
02:18.17Kyahxyea, lol
02:18.28Mikmanr.8 and 9 rock, really
02:18.36Mikma8. There is no Hell (It is simply the grave)
02:18.37Mikma9. There is no life after death (except for the 144,000)
02:19.17Mikmawtf, that list is.. rather interesting
02:19.41KyahxI was entertained
02:19.43Mikma23. You cannot buy girl Scout cookies
02:19.50Mikma"OH NOES! TEH ANTICHRIST COOKIES!"
02:20.12KyahxI'd rather have the cookies and be damned for all eternity
02:20.19Kyahxthin mints rock
02:20.36Mikmareally.. 29. You cannot be a cheerleader
02:20.42Mikmawhat the hell is wrong with them?
02:20.49ckknightMikma, actually, JWs calculated all the 144k people in heaven already
02:20.59CIA-1103grimwald * r7248 10BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_NefCount.lua:
02:20.59CIA-11BigWigs_NefCount:
02:20.59CIA-11* Fixed a bug introduced in the previous commit
02:21.51Mikmaso, the number increases everytime someone dies then?
02:23.10ckknightthey take some things literally (like 144k) and some things not literally (like you must be a virgin)
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02:23.49Mikma47. You cannot play chess*
02:24.26Mikmawell smoking is not allowed which is propably the only good thing :P
02:26.13Mikma66. Jehovah's Witness meeting places have no windows ... this clarified to me the shaping/structure of the buildings
02:27.56tekkubthat's true!
02:28.26tekkubthat's what I call "proof that you're oblivious to the world around you" :)
02:30.02Mikma95. You must never enter a church building ... so weddings are denied, and so are funerals
02:30.17Mikmabut after all, JWs propably don't have any friends than JW's
02:32.10Mikmaand, it seem's that i'm a goat
02:33.07Mikmabut the best thing is that i think so are all of you others too
02:33.51Mikmathat was fun to read
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02:45.36ckknightMikma, separating the goats from the sheep, right.
02:45.59ckknightoh well, it's all pearls to swine
02:46.05Mikmahehe
02:49.58ckknightwho wants to hear some good news?
02:50.05Mikmai do
02:50.06tekkuboreo?
02:50.16ckknightI'm making it so that AceComm will be able to tell you who's in a channel
02:50.28ckknightnow the clincher here is that Telepathy/Sky can do the same thing
02:50.49Mikmayes but don't worry about them, they suck
02:50.54ckknightonly mine is basically 50x more efficient memory/cpu-wise
02:50.58Mikmathey need sea to work ^^
02:51.17ckknight;-)
02:51.24ckknightso I'm like "suck it!"
02:51.56Mikmaand your don't use sea
02:52.15ckknightbasically, the difference is that instead of splitting the string by commas and making a giant table, then parsing each string in turn, I use a single string.gfind
02:52.32ckknightso instead of doing a bunch of lua-space shit, I use one single C function
02:52.35tekkubso I was thinking about making a DKP pricecheck/bidding mod
02:52.38tekkubbut I need a name...
02:52.41ckknightso again, "Suck it!"
02:52.42tekkublike maybe DKPie
02:52.54ckknightDKPee
02:52.55Mikma"Suck it DKP"
02:53.03ckknightDeeKayPee
02:53.05tekkubDKPee I like
02:53.08MikmaDKPee, that's good
02:53.21MikmaDeKkuP :P
02:53.38tekkubDicKPee :P  sory, had to
02:53.49Mikmathat's not bad either
02:54.08tekkubDiKePike
02:54.11snurrescrew dkp
02:54.33ckknightah, so few richards, so many dicks
02:54.52tekkubD-KuP
02:55.29snurreI very much prefer my guild's system.. automatically generates ranking lists for each item, from attendance, amount of items received and how long since last item
02:55.49tekkuboooh... sounds like what we need
02:55.53snurreno bidding, whoever is on top of list gets it
02:56.02tekkubwe use DKP weighted against last 30 days attendance
02:56.11tekkubwith bidding, I hate bidding
02:56.22snurrebidding sucks
02:56.49Mikmatekkub: the guild where i was did use a really nifty addon made by one member.. you could use raidsay to start the bidding on the item and everyone with the mod got a window open with the item, dkp price and list of bidders
02:57.14Mikmai'll see if i can get my hands on it
02:57.33tekkubthat's exactly what I want... and be compatible with direct tell bids so bidder don't have to install or change how they bid...
02:57.55tekkubleader picks eligable classes, sticks in low bid, hits announce
02:58.06tekkubusers of the mod that are the correct class will get a bid popup
02:58.07Mikmayeah
02:58.21tekkubothers can just /t Grais [link] 25
02:58.57tekkubon his end show each bid, with a field to input attendance, once he's done hit calc it'll weight and announce winner
02:58.58MikmaAceComm would rock in addon like that
02:59.22tekkubyea that's why I'm not in a rush, I'll wait for 1.12 and then start on it I think
02:59.44tekkuband also finish out exoticmaterials for moon and link in some sort of prick checking
02:59.53tekkub<PROTECTED>
03:00.25Mikmaa GUI to do that would propably be "easy" too
03:00.46Mikmasending offers, checking prices etc
03:01.01tekkubwell if the user has the mod installed it'd pull prices for everything from the leader
03:01.12tekkuband tooltip em, of course
03:02.45tekkubbut then I wonder if kael's combine will do this anyway
03:02.56tekkubso maybe I'll just tinker with the bid mod
03:03.49tekkubI could call it Bitter (Bidder)
03:03.57Mikmagod damn
03:04.06tekkubcause after the dramaning we have some damn bitter officers
03:04.09Mikmathe problem is that the addon is private
03:05.57Kyahxuse candybars to show a bidding countdown?  :D
03:06.28tekkubnope, I expect only the leader will run the mod
03:06.38tekkubbut *hope* peopns will use it too
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03:07.06Mikmahmm
03:07.18Mikmainfo sending over AceComm
03:07.24Mikma"hey master, slave is here"
03:07.37Mikma"ok then we shall send info to him in GUI"
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03:11.59Mikmaall i know now is the web where to get the addon, and the name graider .. but i can't remember the proper link
03:18.28haste_my tinypad is acting really strange right now
03:20.10Mikmadamn, again i got the interest to do a error redirect "ace2" version
03:21.13Mikmameaning just a simple directing of errormessages into chatframe
03:21.21TainIf anyone cares, doing Firemaw right now and Bigwigs is tossing out Candybar errors almost every 30 seconds
03:21.38haste_Who killed my tinypad?
03:21.42haste_it doesn't run scripts anymore
03:21.45haste_or... it runs them once
03:21.52Nightdewhaste_: did you have another chance to check out the problem..?
03:21.57haste_then it refuses to run the update version untill I change page
03:21.58haste_Nightdew: nope
03:21.58Nightdewbefore i go to bed
03:24.24CIA-1103ckknight * r7249 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua:
03:24.24CIA-11AceComm - added :IsUserInChannel("user", "distribution") or ("user", "CUSTOM", "customChannel")
03:24.24CIA-11Note: this is _much_ more efficient than Sky/Telepathy's way of doing it ;-)
03:24.52ckknight;-)
03:25.04Mikma~owned
03:25.08purlNo one gives a shit, mikma.
03:25.18Mikmackknight: :(
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03:25.30ckknightlol.
03:25.34ckknight~pwned
03:25.36purlpwned is, like, like owned, but better.
03:25.36ckknighthey Mikk
03:25.41Mikmahahahaha
03:25.47Mikmathat's nice one
03:25.56TainI fully support guildremoving people who say 'pwned'
03:26.18Mikkheya ck
03:26.43Mikkobtw... neronix and i had a slight epiphany yesterday
03:26.48Mikkor whateverdayitwas
03:27.04Mikkstring.format beats string concatenation all the time
03:27.40Mikkpossibly concatenating two single strings is the same as string.format, but string.format beats it silly as soon as you move to 3 things that need to be concatenated
03:27.53Mikkdoubly so when you're dealing with numbers that you want to concatenate to strings
03:28.15ckknightnot true, Mikk
03:28.19ckknight;-)
03:28.32ckknight"a" .. "b" .. "c" is one concatenation, not two
03:28.44ckknightwell, it doesn't make an "ab" string in-between
03:28.57ckknightlua's smart enough to do em all at once
03:29.13ckknightwhen you shouldn't do this would be in a for loop or something with s = s .. "text"
03:29.15ckknightthat's just bad
03:29.23ckknightyou should use string.concat for that
03:29.45ckknightg'night
03:30.05Temmaia, ItemCompare is waiting on a parser from clad
03:30.14TemI missed him didn't I?
03:30.27Temoh well, I'll have to catch him later
03:30.40Mikmapoke him, he usually wakes when he's poked
03:32.45Mikkckknight: well.. that's what i thought too
03:33.05ckknightMikk, alright then
03:33.08Mikkbut string.format("%s:%d", "foo", 2) is 25% faster and uses half the memory of "foo"..":"..2
03:33.16ckknighthrm.
03:33.25ckknightworks for me.
03:33.32Mikkcould be because of the number conversion then
03:33.46ckknightoh, Mikk, I implemented :IsUserInChannel("user", "distribution") or ("user", "CUSTOM", "customChannel") in AceComm
03:34.00ckknightit's about 50x more efficient than Sky/Telepathy ;-)
03:34.09ckknightthought you might appreciate that
03:36.36ckknighthehe
03:36.39Mikkhow do you determine that? based on seeing people talk?
03:36.58Mikkoops nice scroll lock there
03:36.58ckknightno, I did some tests
03:37.08Mikknice perf boost o.O
03:37.12CIA-1103tekkub * r7250 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandBar-2.0 - Now uses the AceLibrary assert so maybe we can find who is passing bad gradients
03:37.23ckknightbasically, Telepathy gets the string, separates it into a table of many strings (separating by the comma)
03:37.38Mikmahuh
03:37.44ckknightthen goes through each string, strips out the special characters (like @, #, *, and spaces)
03:37.55ckknightAceComm, instead, uses a single string.gfind
03:38.38Mikmahas anyone told AL how sucky his addons are?
03:38.43ckknightoh, and it uses a global to store the temporary string in, not a local
03:38.50ckknightyes, I told him last night, Mikma
03:38.57Mikmagood. thanks
03:39.04TainThey're not sucky, just not as optimized as they could be.  
03:39.06Mikkamazingly, he didn't log straight out
03:39.13Mikmahehehe
03:39.14ckknightyea
03:39.15TainHe just doesn't take criticism.
03:39.17TainAt all.
03:39.30ckknighteven when I tell him how to fix it :-P
03:39.37Mikma~emo
03:39.42ckknight~wrists
03:39.44purlRemember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road!
03:39.58MikkMeh, that's the BOFH mantra
03:40.04Mikk"Down, not across.... Down, not across..."
03:40.31TainHe has good ideas for things, and good "general" techniques, but won't accept that others have suggestions that may be improvements over what he's done.
03:41.05MikmaTain: if it's done already, why fix it?
03:41.21ckknightJUST USE SKY GODDAMMIT
03:42.06ckknight</charade>
03:42.37Mikmagief link 4 sky!
03:43.57ckknightshould I tell #wowi-lounge about my optimization over Telepathy, or would that be too dickish?
03:44.33TainWell you know what his reactino will be.  And you know you're not going to use it for anything yourself.
03:44.48ckknighthe's not online
03:44.51ckknightthat's the point
03:45.01TainOh.  I don't really pay attention.
03:45.06ckknightnot to incite a riot from him, just spread propaganda
03:45.47TainI dunno.  I see personalities as buttons to push so I'm probably not a good moral compass.
03:46.34Mikkhahahaha
03:47.17Mikmackknight: stop being a dick and tell it at #wowi ...
03:47.54Mikmai'll do a /clap after
03:47.58ckknightokay
03:48.16ckknightenter pressed
03:48.49TainMan you're as sublte as a trainwreak.
03:48.55Tainwreck as well
03:49.11ckknighthehe, I am, aren't I?
03:49.59ckknightstill, it's something I even pointed out to AL last night
03:50.03ckknightand he just brushed me off
03:50.06ckknightso I don't feel bad
03:51.12ckknightAceComm also handles AFK and DND properly, Telepathy doesn't
03:51.18ckknightand I told him about that, and he doesn't care
03:51.46ckknightum, you can't messages with special characters with Telepathy, also something he doesn't care about
03:53.05ckknightAceComm provides the use of zone-specific or custom channels, Telepathy doesn't and he says he won't put it in
03:54.06ckknightAceComm's messages are much smaller, provide transparent memoization, and seamless serialization
03:54.14ckknightalso something I've talked to him about that he doesn't care about
03:54.23ckknightexcept he does allow tables to go through
03:54.33ckknightbut the format is much bigger than necessary
03:54.33Mikmackknight: deos telepathy handle Booze?
03:54.59ckknightMikma, yes, but in doing so fucks over some hidden characters, which can easily fuck over the koKReans or the zhCHinese
03:55.39Mikmackknight: and i'm sure acecomm don't do this.
03:56.01ckknightoh, no, AceComm handles encoding for drunkenness and all that perfectly
03:56.16Mikmaso where's the fun in that then? :D
03:56.50ckknightAceComm is a lot more optimized for both CPU-usage and Memory-usage
03:56.59MikmaMikk: hey mate, you know a way of scaling Buttontextures after SetTexCoord without having the whole button-area scale down?
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03:57.28Mikmackknight: i'm sure you remember since it was yesterday, but kyaxh tested cosmos out ;)
03:57.37Mikma40MB ui usage...
03:57.52Mikmaand the rate was something like 1000/sec?
03:58.31Mikmashould propably make a screenshot to praise Ace
03:58.48Mikmafirst install FuBar2 + Cosmos and take a screenshot of uimem etc
03:58.49ckknightwtf!
03:58.52ckknightI need a screenie
03:58.58Mikmammkay
03:59.13Mikmai'll give it a go then too to see is kyaxh right about it :)
03:59.19ckknightreally, you should use AceGCInfo instead
03:59.49Mikmado i need anything else than it?
03:59.55Mikmain other words, embed?
04:00.10ckknightnot sure
04:00.12ckknightit might need Ace
04:00.20ckknightif it does, I'll upgrade it for Ace2 :-P
04:00.34ckknightthere needs to be a tiny performance thing that's not reliant on anything
04:00.36ckknight(event FuBar)
04:00.38MikkMikma: errwha? yeah possibly
04:00.46Mikma*AWWWWW* how nice, Cosmos_Mac.zip
04:00.59Mikkyou'd have to play around with SetTexCoord + SetTexCoordModifiesRect I think
04:01.12MikmaMikk: listen up, the problems is if i try to setscale on the button itself, it will move the button around + all the buttons anchored to it
04:01.33Mikkyeah that's expected
04:01.37Mikkyou want to shrink the image yeah?
04:01.39Mikmai need to find a smart way of scaling only the texture down a bit so i can make the sexy look maia did put on BT2 thread
04:01.43Mikmayeah
04:01.54Mikmaand when shrinking the image there's a problem
04:02.04Mikma0.07,0.93,0.07,0.93 ...
04:02.05Mikkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoordModifiesRect <- read =)
04:02.20Mikmait removes the stupid border of the pictures by zooming the texture
04:03.00Mikmathen i'm not sure can it be used together with the maia's mockup
04:03.18ckknightget me the screenie, though, I want to shove it in AL's face
04:03.32Mikmawill do, downloading AceGCInfo now
04:03.32ckknightdo not have FuBar on it, though
04:03.52ckknightAceGCInfo just requires Ace
04:03.57Mikmayah i'll do a clean install
04:05.23Mikmalol cosmos has a downloader
04:05.39MikkIt used to be necessary you know
04:05.41haste_uhm, what are you guys doing?
04:05.49MikkWhat with all the framexml patching and everything that was necessary back then
04:05.59Mikmahaste_: watchin' the game, havin' a bud
04:06.03haste_Mikma: !
04:06.10ckknighthaste_, getting a screenshot of Cosmos' memory usage
04:06.32haste_ckknight: hehe
04:06.40Mikmathis is with the default install i get with this downloader
04:06.55Mikmawhich btw takes ages
04:07.20haste_Mikma: log into the PTR!
04:07.30haste_AL got like 100+ errors on 1.11 :p
04:07.38ckknightlol
04:07.41Mikmahaste_: grr, i have to download the ptr client + make an addon
04:07.51ckknightokay: now for a task: removing the AceDB dependency from FBP-2.0
04:07.54Mikmaholy mother this really takes ages
04:08.22Mikma50% done
04:09.51Mikmaalmost downloaded, wohoo
04:09.55haste_haha
04:11.10Mikmahere we go!
04:12.24Kyahxhmmm?
04:13.03kergothckknight: yes, we need something like acegcinfo but completely standalone
04:13.15kergothfor testing K/s on individual addons
04:13.16ckknightwe can with Ace2, now
04:13.23kergothlibraries ftw
04:13.56MikmaLOL
04:14.01Mikmathe first time i entered the game
04:14.07MikmaGC wen't on
04:14.22Mikmadidn't have time to take the 44.4MB usage
04:16.22Mikmahere we go
04:16.23Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/cp1.jpg
04:16.24haste__only_ 31 more MB then me
04:16.31Mikmaentered the game with fresh install
04:16.50Mikmaatm it's ticking at 39.7MB
04:17.18MikmaKB/s is 1-10 when not doing anything
04:18.09tekkubI honestly don't mind memory use too much, it's GC churn I don't like :)
04:18.38Mikmawell the first time i entered the game with cosmos, the GC wen't on :P
04:18.49haste_Mikma: go fight a mob
04:18.55Mikmayeah going atm
04:19.00Mikma39.9MB
04:19.23Kyahxtekkub: does BW2 have no sync test?
04:19.25Mikmai'll just enable all there is
04:19.36tekkubno that module needs converted
04:19.40Kyahxkk
04:19.54Kyahxthe only way to do a local test is to show the anchor and click test too =/
04:20.08tekkubyea prolly :P
04:21.52Mikmaok now i have all features enabled
04:22.15tekkubhttp://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=107
04:22.16tekkubthere
04:22.17tekkub:P
04:25.20Mikmaumh
04:25.28Mikmain fight, it's 1.75KB/s
04:25.32Mikma1-75KB/s
04:27.00haste_What was the max name size in WoW again?
04:28.01Mikmai'm not sure exactly why is this but my game lags more than normal
04:28.02haste_12 characters, okey
04:31.01Mikmain fight it's something like 1-9KB/s
04:31.09Mikmait can jump up to 117KB/s sometimes
04:31.51Mikmaeverytime i start casting Mind Blast i get min 45KB/s and a 0.5sec lagspike onscreen
04:32.47Kyahxso I tried out SW-Stats tonight
04:33.04Kyahxit eats like 4-5 k/s all by itself =/
04:33.14Mikmathis is just too damn horrible
04:33.15Kyahxin combat
04:33.20Mikmai have to delete this right now
04:33.21Kyahxits not so bad ooc
04:33.39Mikma1-9KB/s ooc
04:33.49Mikmawhen i start casting some spell with castbar...
04:34.05Mikmaeven when ooc it jumps to 45KB/s and goes back to 1-9KB/s
04:34.23Kyahxo.O  What're you running?
04:34.25KemayoIs there any way to reposition bars in Bartender2 yet?
04:34.29MikmaKyahx: cosmos
04:34.34Kyahxrofl
04:34.39MikmaKemayo: /script Bartender:Move()
04:34.40KyahxI did that yesterday
04:34.45Mikmayeah
04:34.50KyahxI laughed with glee and deleted it all
04:34.50Mikmathis test was inspired by you
04:34.51KemayoAh, I see.  Not quite intuitive yet.  :)
04:35.00Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/cp1.jpg
04:35.31MikmaKyahx: i must remind you that this screenshot has been taken when GC already wen't on 1 time in login ;)
04:35.38Kyahxhahah
04:35.58Kyahxand you dont even have the thottbott miner on :P
04:36.03Mikmawhen i entered the game ot was 44.0 / ..
04:36.12Mikmanot on that picture
04:36.20Mikmai enabled all features after it
04:36.21Kyahxwhat are you useing to moniter stats BTW?
04:36.26Arrowmasterwow your memory usage is lower than mine
04:36.29Mikma44.6MB
04:36.34KyahxArrowmaster: o.O
04:36.40Mikmapurl: burn Arrowmaster
04:36.41purlibot pours gasoline all over Arrowmaster, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze
04:36.54Arrowmasterjust loged in and im at 55mb
04:37.15KyahxTime to cut down on that :P
04:37.18Arrowmasterbut i run way too many mods
04:37.25KyahxMy UI takes up 18mb on login
04:37.28Kyahx21 while in combat
04:37.29Mikmalol wtf
04:37.33ckknightset it up so that when AceGCInfo > 50 KiB/s, Screenshot()
04:37.36Mikmai got my record for this test
04:37.58Arrowmasteroh yeah thats right ive still got the quizbot mod enabled, that might have something to do with it
04:38.07Kyahxdoubt it :P
04:38.13Mikmackknight: just a sec i got 370 now but moment ago it was 1500
04:38.13KyahxNot that hardcore large numbers
04:38.23KyahxAuctioneer, Discord_*, what?
04:38.25Arrowmasterwell thats 4-5mb alone
04:38.53Arrowmastergatherer with a very large db and flexbar
04:39.04Mikmaawwww fuckk, i missed the 1600KB/s
04:39.09Kyahxrofl
04:39.37Mikmabut did get a 1400KB/s :D
04:39.48ckknightMikma, set up the Screenshot() thing.
04:39.50ckknightyou can do ti
04:39.52ckknightit*
04:39.58Kyahxgo into the WoWI channel "Server First!  1400KB/s UI increase!  ty Cosmos!"
04:40.07ckknightdo it
04:40.10ckknightyou have to.
04:40.26KyahxNEEEEEWWW REECOOORDDDD
04:40.29Mikmawait, waiiiiit
04:40.32Mikma1770KB/s
04:40.40Kyahxhahaha
04:40.44KyahxIm impresed
04:40.50Mikma(this is in login)
04:41.51Mikma1767KB/s screenshotted!
04:42.07Kyahx<PROTECTED>
04:42.16KyahxI must see
04:42.16kergothhahah
04:42.22Mikmashould i try over 1800KB/s?
04:42.45KyahxHow the hell is it loading that much?
04:43.04Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/cp2.jpg
04:43.05Mikma1432
04:43.14Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/cp3.jpg
04:43.15Mikma1767
04:43.37Mikmai'll try 1800 one more time
04:45.02Mikmaboo, only 1600
04:45.06Mikmawell 1767 will have to do
04:45.15Mikmai'll rename the file to cp.jpg now ;)
04:45.18Mikmaor to cosmos.jpg
04:46.07Mikmahere we go
04:46.10Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/cosmos.jpg :)
04:47.31Mikmalet's try the same with my ui now
04:49.11KyahxSW-Statis isn't so bad when your not synced into a channel
04:49.15Kyahxstats*
04:51.28Cairennkergoth: you there?
04:52.38eternally777I was suspicious about SW stats.. I don't like how it syncs in real time
04:53.10KyahxWell, for the amount of data is tracks, its not *too* bad
04:53.28Kyahxwas running about 4-5kb/s in combat (full raid)
04:53.35Kyahx1-2kb/s while idel
04:53.37Kyahxidle*
04:53.45Mikkguys....
04:53.47Mikkone thing...
04:53.56ckknightwhat's that?
04:54.01KyahxHappy B-day?
04:54.02Mikkeven though i fully agree with that amount of memory usage being .. "eh wtf?" ...
04:54.10MikmaWTF is wrong with my UI
04:54.10Mikki'd tone it down outside of this channel tbh
04:54.16Mikmai only get 30KB/s on login
04:54.26ckknightyea, I'm gonna agree with Mikk, actually
04:54.29Mikkif you want to publish something like that, do it in a larger context
04:54.40ckknightyea, like on the WoW forums
04:54.52Mikklike... "we have 5 UIs doing these well-defined tasks.. now we'll compare mem churn with them"
04:55.22Mikkjust hanging out cosmos alone has a bit of a foul smell to it with the ace vs cosmos history
04:55.26Kyahxput Nurfed and CT_Mod to the test!
04:55.30Mikkdeffo =)
04:55.33Mikmaso wan't me to save my legendary cosmos.jpg? :D
04:55.42ckknightMikma, save it
04:55.51Kyahxsave it, and then clean out cosmos and try to break Nurfed or CT_M
04:55.51ckknightbut maybe testing CT and Nurfed would be fun, too
04:55.57Mikmareally, my addons i use got 30KB/s on login
04:56.00kergothpretty sad, but make a new benchmark.  # of garbage collection cycles per hour ;)
04:56.01Mikmahmm yeah
04:56.11Mikmai'll test em too sure
04:56.30eternally777I still get 50-60KB/s while idling in a raid
04:56.36eternally777:-(
04:56.59kergothmy addon set's a bit of a beast itself nowadays, i need to split some fluff out of the core into a seperate group
04:57.33Mikmathere's a problem with FuBar + AceGCInfo :D
04:57.33Mikmathe AceGC will go into FuBar and removes the bar on screen hehe
04:57.34Mikmabut i got it visible, with couple of errors too
04:57.34ckknightyea.
04:57.34ckknighthehe
04:57.44MikmaCT, Nurded... Gypsy?
04:58.00Mikkan important point would be to get the UI sets to perform the same tasks
04:58.12Mikki mean.. any UI without a damage stat module will win in combat, for example
04:58.25KyahxIE zoneing in and out of the deeprun tran repeatedly?
04:58.39Kyahxor would taht do nothing :P
04:58.55Mikmawell, someone would need to make a addon to do all the measuring
04:58.58Kyahxwow I should sleep, typing is teh suck
04:59.06Mikmaand maybe doing some emulated stuff?
04:59.35ckknightoh yea, you know how Blizzard still sucks in-between PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD and PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD?
04:59.51ckknightyou think I should put in provisions into AceEvent?
04:59.54Mikmashould i get just the basic of CTMOD or all of it?
05:00.11Mikkyou should do a check list on what the UI does
05:00.15Mikkand make sure the UIs match
05:00.33Mikmai'll just download a complete package and test it with that
05:01.17Mikmai did remove the default "standing around" picture of cp from server but i still have it in HDD
05:02.39Mikmaeven having a thought about gathering some same addons to do the same job and trrying them out in same situation gives me goosebumps
05:07.36Mikmahmm
05:07.44Mikmanurfed got a 550KB/s spike at the first load
05:07.58Mikmabut now can't get any readings from it at login
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05:11.58MikmaNurfed's combar KB/s is 1-15KB/s...
05:16.33Kyahxthats not *terrible*
05:18.40Mikmano it's not
05:18.50Mikmaatleast it's not getting the 45KB/s spikes like Cosmos did
05:19.00Mikmaand removing 0.5-1sec from my game ;)
05:19.37Mikmaand the login KB/s was 8 at max
05:19.58Mikmackknight: you should mod the AceGCInfo to save max values too
05:20.09Mikmathat data don't lie :P
05:20.13ckknightnah, I don't care enough to hack it
05:20.24ckknightI'm working on FuBar now
05:20.33Mikmathat's cool, keep working :D
05:20.48Mikmaafterall it's only a thought ;)
05:22.09CIA-1103ckknight * r7251 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FBP-2.0 - no longer has an implied dependency on AceDB-2.0
05:26.30haste_hrmf
05:26.38haste_something makes me instantly disconnect from the server
05:27.02Mikmalol.. "Chuck Norris don't tea-bag anyone. he potato-sack them"
05:32.27Mikma"Freddy Kruger never sleeps because he fears to dream about Chuck Norris"
05:32.49Mikmaok i just tested CTMods
05:33.00Mikma1-15KB/s in combat
05:33.18Mikma0KB/s while idle
05:33.50Mikmabut when in combat i use ie. shield (CTDebuffs appear) 25KB/s
05:34.01Arrowmastercan you test out some different mods that monitor the combat log?
05:34.09Arrowmasterlike damagemeters 5.0
05:34.11Mikmanope :(
05:34.18Arrowmaster=(
05:34.20Mikmabut you can do it instead :D
05:34.29Mikmajust grab Ace, AceGCInfo and go test
05:35.14Mikmayeah everytime i shield myself it jumps into 20KB/s+
05:35.20Mikmamust be because of the buff-frame
05:35.30Mikmanow i'll test the login
05:37.21Mikma4-7KB/s on login with CTmods
05:38.05ckknightback
05:38.10ckknight(bikeriding)
05:39.03Mikmahttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoordModifiesRect
05:39.11Mikmahmm i just had a vision about this one actually
05:39.30MikmaNote how unsetting ModifiesRect does not automatically return the display rectangle to its normal state. ..
05:39.41Mikmathis can propably be used
05:48.35Mikmadamn, found a bug in bt2..
05:48.51Mikmadragging bags will let the stupid grids shown
05:50.28haste_/script OutOfControlFrame:Show()
05:50.34haste_I'm so making a addon using that frame!
05:50.40haste_(write it in-game)
05:51.01haste_/script LowHealthFrame:Show()
05:51.22Mikmawooow
05:51.43haste_Yeh
05:51.46Mikmaneat :D
05:51.52haste_I was like: WTF is this?!
05:51.54haste_*writes*
05:51.56Mikmalowhealthwarning and (mana)
05:52.19Mikmawhere in the hell did that come from anyway? :D
05:52.24haste_UIParent.xml
05:52.28Mikmalol
05:52.38Mikmain, yet not used...
05:52.59Mikmahaste_: i think that mod will rock my world :D
05:53.12Arrowmasterits been there for a long time, i know of two mods that use it
05:53.14Mikmait's great as healer too if you use the OutOfControlFrame as mana
05:53.38MikmaArrowmaster: so do i, but didn't know the functions are in game
05:53.57Mikmapriestplusplus is one addon to use it
05:55.21Arrowmasteri was thinking of TNE_LowHealthWarning and some warlock mod that uses it for when shadow trance procs
05:55.41haste_Arrowmaster: it uses it's own textures
05:55.45haste_TNE_Nightfall at least
05:56.36Mikmai don't think any addon uses those 2
05:56.53CIA-1103ckknight * r7252 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBar_Panel.lua): FuBar - panels are now at HIGH strata when attached and MEDIUM strata when not attached to a side
05:58.00Arrowmasterim looking at the code for TNE_LowHealthWarning right now and it uses both frames, although it does seem to have a texture included and im looking now to see where its used
05:59.39CIA-1103ckknight * r7253 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=77
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06:08.48gnorlishhaste, quick question
06:10.20haste_gnorlish: fire
06:10.29Mikmagah, this is not going to work. damnit.
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06:10.45Solehi
06:11.17haste_hello
06:13.33ckknight_hey Sole
06:15.02CIA-1103ckknight * r7254 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua:
06:15.02CIA-11AceConsole - added guiNameIsMap
06:15.02CIA-11http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=87
06:15.09Kyahxhaste_: Use that frame for Adrenline rush :P
06:15.23*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
06:15.46haste_Kyahx: hehe
06:15.53Kyahxthat would be awesome
06:16.06CIA-1103ckknight * r7255 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:
06:16.06CIA-11Dewdrop - added guiNameIsMap
06:16.06CIA-11http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=87
06:16.30haste_Kyahx: maybe, working on something completly different right now:p
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06:18.10kergothooh, use it for Berserk if you're a troll
06:18.12kergoth:)
06:18.24Solehmm, do you guys think  having the whole  events registered/unregistered option in Soap is useful?
06:18.41ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=92 <-- can anyone reproduce this?
06:18.45Soleseeing as it only controls 3 events and they are kinda useful
06:19.27Elkanomorning :)
06:19.29ckknighthey Elkano
06:20.10Mikmadayem, i need to find how and where is blizzard docking the icons
06:20.12ckknightkergoth, you know how Blizzard has those useless events in-between PLW and PEW? Do you think it'd be a good idea to prevent those events from triggering during that time in AceEvent-2.0?
06:20.21Elkanoseeing that fbp-2.0 isn't needing AceDB any longer, what's the minimum mixin set required for a fb-2.0 plugin?
06:20.30ckknightElkano, Tablet-2.0
06:20.37ckknightDewdrop-2.0 (in FuBar)
06:20.39ckknightum...
06:20.42ckknightAceEvent-2.0
06:20.44ckknightAceLibrary
06:20.47ckknightAceOO-2.0
06:20.50ckknightthat's it
06:21.09ckknightand actually, none of those have to be mixed in
06:21.20ckknightyou can have AceAddon:new("FuBarPlugin-2.0")
06:21.23ckknightand you'll be set.
06:21.31ckknightbut those 5 are required deps
06:22.06kergothckknight: hmm thats a tough one, kinda out of its scope.  i like using catalyst
06:22.20Kyahxis catalyst still usefull?
06:22.22ckknightkergoth, but with it, catalyst won't be needed (for Ace2 addons)
06:22.25Kyahxpost 1.11?
06:22.26ckknightyes, sadly, Kyahx
06:22.32Mikma:D
06:22.40Mikma"sadly" ...
06:22.44Kyahx=(
06:22.52Mikmai still think it's good that it speeds the game up ;)
06:23.02Mikmagives me a more advantage on loadings lol
06:23.02sedatedChipmunkit's bad that it's needed to
06:23.09Elkanoso neither console nor db is required any longer in the plugin and event only as dep, that I should only mixin if I plan to use it's features myself?
06:23.10KyahxI think its sad that Blizzard can't fix their own shit :P
06:23.29ckknightso I need people's advice: should I put catalyst-esque code into AceEvent-2.0?
06:23.29Kyahxand that I'm still awake and have work in 4 1/2 hours
06:23.32Kyahxg'night all
06:23.49ckknightElkano, exactly.
06:23.52Kyahxckknight: I'd say yes, more transparent bonuses for people useing Ace2
06:24.05Kyahx"Ace2 sped up my loading times!"
06:24.25ckknightKyahx, it'd only work with Ace-specific events, not all events
06:24.30ckknightI mean
06:24.36ckknightonly things that use AceEvent-2.0
06:24.47Elkanobtw: should metrognome be used as lib or as mixin wrt performance and memory? mixin will copy the functions, won't it?
06:24.49ckknightit just won't trigger the extra events
06:24.57ckknightElkano, I recommend AceEvent instead
06:25.11ckknight:-P
06:25.20Elkanohmmm...
06:25.33Kyahxok, I'm going to sleep for real.
06:25.39ckknightI don't believe you.
06:25.41Kyahxhaste_: I'm going to steal your bottomUI someday
06:25.47Kyahxstop makeing pretty UIs
06:25.49Elkanothan give me a quick hint how to setup a fb-2.0 plugin to update it's data every 1sec ;)
06:25.51Kyahx:P
06:26.05ckknightself:ScheduleRepeatingEvent(self.OnUpdate, 1, self)
06:26.11ckknightusing AceEvent-2.0 as a mixin
06:26.41Elkanoin which block? onEnable? onInit?
06:26.46ckknightOnEnable
06:27.12Elkanodo I hve to disable it as with metro or will ace take care?
06:27.25ckknightit'll do it all automagically
06:28.58ckknight:-)
06:29.30CIA-1103elkano * r7256 10FuBar_ItemDBFu/ (FuBar_ItemDBFu.lua FuBar_ItemDBFu.toc Libs/): FuBar_ItemDBFu - now uses AceEvent instead of Metrognome
06:30.28Elkanobtw: do you remember my tablet bug wrt to font size? It seems like it only happens with fb-1.2 plugins since ItemDBFu's tooltip was fine
06:32.53Arrowmasterwtf i just logged in and some mod did a /chatwho of every chat channel im in including LFG
06:33.04ckknightElkano, *shrug*
06:33.17ckknightum
06:33.21MikmaArrowmaster: chatmanager?
06:33.21ckknightlemme see if it was AceComm
06:33.39ArrowmasterMikma: dont use that
06:33.47MikmaArrowmaster: why shouldn't i? :)
06:33.59Arrowmasterno im saying i dont use that
06:34.27Mikmahmmh i need to realize how this thing works :P
06:34.43MikmaULx,ULy,LLx,LLy,URx,URy,LRx,LRy
06:34.46ckknightsorry, Arrowmaster
06:34.49ckknightmy bad
06:35.00Arrowmasterlol
06:35.38Arrowmasterim just glad it happened in the middle of the night, would have thought doing a /chatwho LFG would have disconnected me during peek hours
06:36.12ckknighthehe.
06:36.37Soleammo, you here yet?
06:36.59ElkanoArrowmaster, I think dcs via chatwho on LFG have been fixed by Blizzard, haven't they?
06:37.09Elkano@ckknight: compost is evil btw: http://ace.pastecode.com/2758
06:38.07CIA-1103ckknight * r7257 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: AceComm-2.0 - fixed /chatwho bug
06:38.12ckknightArrowmaster, please test?
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06:38.50Arrowmasterk, running svn update *, ill relog in 10 minutes when it finishes
06:39.09vhaarranyone know what the hell "BigWigs event scheduled incorrectly if first preemptive silence made until 00:30 sec." means?
06:40.00ckknightArrowmaster, thanks
06:41.08MikmaMikk: you have any idea how this Texture:SetTexCoordModifiesRect(enableFlag) + Texture:SetTexCoord(minX,maxX,minY,maxY or ULx,ULy,LLx,LLy,URx,URy,LRx,LRy) work?
06:41.15haste_Kyahx|afk: haha :p
06:41.26haste_Okey... I just had the worst experience ever...
06:41.37MikmaMikk: i don't understand what i'm supposed to feed for the last 8 values
06:41.38haste_I forgot a bottle of milk outside the fridge yesterday
06:41.50ckknightew
06:41.54Elkanobtw: ckknight, do you know  the source of a "Whisper missing target player" error? From time to time I'm getting this with ItemDB, maybe because the other player has gone offline, but I'm not sure about that...
06:41.56haste_and I managed to tilt this one into the sink, so it sprayed me and the sink...
06:42.00ckknightI don't like yogurt that much
06:42.08ckknighthaste_, use the toilet next time
06:42.08haste_say hello to 30min of cleaning
06:42.16haste_I usually do that
06:42.29haste_but I managed to tilt it while washing dishes and shit
06:42.32Mikmaehm, so how can i get values of Texture:GetTexCoord() ?
06:42.33ckknightElkano, this with AceComm or whaT?
06:42.34ckknightwhat*
06:42.44ckknightcause I haven't seen that error
06:42.48Mikmathere's no documentation for that, atleast in wiki
06:43.05Mikmaoh hmm
06:43.09ckknightlocal a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h = Texture:GetTexCoord()
06:43.40Mikmaneat, just found same like thet for Minimap:GetZoom()
06:43.55Elkanowell, the latest debugstack had AceComm in it but I had that bug before (but I didn't have debugstacks at that time) so I'm not sure if these errors started with AceComm
06:44.20Frittimorning all
06:45.36CIA-1103ckknight * r7258 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - added catalyst-style blacklisting during PLW.
06:46.07ckknightElkano, hrm, it shouldn't, but the debugstack linked there cause ChatThrottleLib hooks SendChatMessage
06:46.40Arrowmasterhmm thats weird, i made a detached fubar2 panel and the tooltips in its menu are like missing
06:46.47ckknightodd.
06:46.59Mikmawth
06:47.00ckknightworks for me, Arrowmaster
06:47.18Arrowmasterits got the tooltips for close, about, and profile
06:47.22Elkanowell, if I get that error again I'll had you the debug
06:47.23Arrowmasterbut not the rest
06:48.10ckknightArrowmaster, tooltips?
06:48.16Arrowmasterumm
06:48.33Arrowmasterlike when you mouseover close in the window it says "Close"
06:48.53Arrowmasteror about it says "About" "Print out addon info"
06:48.54ckknighthrm
06:48.57ckknightokay, weird
06:49.00ckknightworks for me, though
06:49.19Arrowmasterits being real inconsistant for me right now
06:50.03Arrowmasteroh my updates done, time to relog
06:51.53Arrowmasterno chatwho spam this time
06:52.28ckknightgood stuff
06:52.35ckknightsorry bout that before
06:52.38ckknightlogic error
06:53.08Arrowmastergona disable tipbuddy and test out the fubar tooltips again
06:53.25CIA-1103elkano * r7259 10FuBar_ItemDBFu/FuBar_ItemDBFu.lua: FuBar_ItemDBFu - removed RegisterDB call
06:53.50Arrowmasteryup it was tipbuddy messing them up
06:54.49MikkMikma: you probably don't want to use the 4-point syntax for SetTexCoord; it's used for doing non-rectangular stuff to textures
06:54.56MikkYou probably just want the 2-point syntax in your work
06:55.50MikmaMikk: yeah, well that don't work :P
06:56.18Mikmai can move the button on lower left corner
06:56.23Mikkyeah
06:56.25Mikmaso that top and left are "free"
06:56.30Mikktop and right
06:56.32Mikmabut i can't move the button anywhere else
06:56.38Mikkaye, that's what it does
06:56.39Mikmatop and right sorry :)
06:56.50Mikmaso it won't do in this case :(
06:57.01Mikkrandom idea: put a mouse-disabled frame behind the button
06:57.01Mikmaanyway, i was thinking..
06:57.08Mikkwhich is slightly smaller than the button
06:57.12MikmaActionButton1Icon:SetPoint ..
06:57.13Mikkmove textures to there continually
06:57.31Mikkyou probably don't want it in front of the button because then you won't see the timer stuff
06:57.33Mikmai DID try the SetPoint too
06:57.59Mikmait kinda worked, but the button was _HUGE_ :D
06:58.11Mikmai'll show you a SS :D
06:58.29Mikkyeah i'm not so sure if SetPointing textures belonging to a button is meant to work at all
06:58.30Mikkor how :-P
06:58.46CIA-1103rabbit * r7260 10FuBar_TinyTipFu/ (FuBar_TinyTipFu.toc TinyTipFu.lua): FuBar_TinyTipFu: No longer needs AceDB-2.0.
06:58.49Mikmai mean ActionButton1:SetPoint("CENTER","ActionButton1","CENTER")
06:59.25oxman=D
06:59.27vhaarrckknight: hmm, did you remove FB2-plugin's dependency on AceDB or did I read that commit wrong?
06:59.31oxmanwhere is the ss ? =p
07:00.01MikkMikma: errr that can't work
07:00.13Mikkyou can never set a point in an object relative to something that the object depends on (i.e itself =))
07:00.24Mikmasorry, ActionButton1Icon:SetPoint
07:00.27Mikkah
07:00.36Mikkthe thing is though
07:00.41Mikkthe texture IS centered
07:00.44Neronix:O
07:00.46Mikmayeap
07:00.54Mikmait IS, but it's still rather HUGE :D
07:01.15ckknightvhaarr, I did.
07:01.33ckknightFBP-2.0 no longer requires that AceDB is a mixin
07:01.39MikkActionButton1Icon is a stand-alone texture object that's never properly _owned_ by the button?
07:01.50Mikkas in SetPushedTexture() and stuff?
07:01.58Mikkwhy not just move it around a bit if so? o.O
07:02.06vhaarrckknight: |Dewdrop:AddLine(...,'func', "ToggleActive",...)| at line 848 in FuBarPlugin-2.0
07:02.17MikmaMikk: the point is, how? :)
07:02.28ckknightvhaarr, um, what's the bug?
07:02.36Mikmai can shrink the button and get it to dock bottomleft
07:02.43ckknightah, hrm
07:02.45vhaarrckknight: ToggleActive doesn't exist without AceDB-2.0
07:02.47Neronix\o/
07:02.48Mikmabut how to move it up by some pixels and right
07:02.52Neronix7 1s and a 2
07:02.53MikkActionButton1Icon:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", "ActionButton1", "TOPLEFT", 5, -5);  ActionButton1Icon:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", "ActionButton1", "BOTTOMRIGHT", -5, 5);  
07:03.20ckknightI actually want to get rid of :AddImpliedMenuOptions() :-P
07:03.21Mikkwon't that just automagically do the right thing without playing with SetTexCoordModifiesRect?
07:03.37Mikmahmm
07:03.54Mikklike i said.. assuming that the texture isn't properly owned by the button
07:04.04Mikki have no idea how blizzard's actionbar usage really works
07:04.08Mikkactionbutton*
07:04.21Mikmathat might work actually
07:04.23Mikkand tbh i don't really feel like reading a lot of framexml right now =)
07:04.35Mikmano don't you already helped alot
07:04.48Mikmai think that setpoint will work nicely when i get the value right
07:05.17MikmaMikk: you know what?
07:05.25Mikkoh and :ClearAllPoints too btw =)
07:05.33Mikmathat won't be needed
07:06.02Mikki dunno.. i just tend to do it to be safe :-P
07:06.15Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/button1.jpg
07:06.20ckknightvhaarr, fixing now, btw
07:06.28Mikkthere's very dark voodoo in the dark recesses of the graphics engine. i do not challenge it =)
07:06.31Mikmaand that's mouseovered button1
07:06.37vhaarrckknight: excellent
07:06.51ckknightnow it'll actually use the proper AceOptions tables
07:06.57ckknight:-)
07:07.14ckknightso you get all the proper options, for all your mixins :-)
07:08.27MikmaMikk: notice how the graphics on button 1 is smaller than normal :D
07:08.44Mikkyes ;)
07:09.03Mikmaoh my god i hate you so much, you just made 2h of my time go waste haha
07:09.27Mikkpardon :-P
07:09.51Mikmanow all i need to do is figure out how to put the *!"#!!& backdrop on the buttons
07:10.09NeronixMikk: About the string.format stuff we were doing yesterday, I was wondering about the conversion of floats to integers
07:10.43Neronix(God's sake, I've just got my exam results and all I can think of is benchmarking xD)
07:12.16haste_Okey, this is the most stupid thing I've done today
07:12.26haste_I created a editbox, which is shown as default
07:12.37haste_without changing it to not steal focus
07:12.56haste_guess I'll just idle untill it stops
07:13.15Neronix("%d", i*1.33333) is 14kb and 0.312s for 100k runs with a stock interpreter
07:14.30Neronix("%.5f", i*1.33333) is 18kb and 0.703s
07:15.10CIA-1103ckknight * r7261 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: Tablet - Dewdrop-related fixes
07:15.22CIA-1103ckknight * r7262 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - detached Tablet fixes, Dewdrop fixes
07:15.27Neronix("%.1f", i) is 12kb, 0.65s
07:15.39Elkanohmm... in which file is the faction display defined?
07:16.31Elkanoah, reputation ^^
07:16.42oxmanop
07:17.04MikmaMikk: http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1120/perfectbarbd8.jpg :P now i need to figure a way to make the buttons have borders like that
07:18.02ckknightFBP-2.0 has no known bugs
07:18.08ckknightyou know what that means?
07:18.14ckknightpeople need to file more bug reports.
07:18.23Mikmano.
07:18.29Mikmayou just need to make worse code, that's all
07:18.36ckknighthehe
07:18.43ckknightyou know that goes against my belief structure
07:18.50Mikmaliek tpyos evreywhere
07:19.00ckknightand global pollution!
07:19.03ckknightthat could be fun!
07:20.00MikkMikma: easy, just put a texture that's color 0.3,0.3,0.3 or something and alpha ... euhmm... 0.3ish too i think
07:20.11Mikk(behind the button i mean)
07:20.35ckknightNeronix, what's the celebration?
07:20.40MikmaMikk: i tried to set ActionButton1:SetBackdropColor(something), didn't affect anything
07:20.42Mikkhis top exam score =)
07:20.45ckknightah
07:20.46ckknightcool.
07:20.50ckknightcongrats, man
07:20.50MikkMikma: no, that's not what you want
07:21.07Mikkthat'll only affect a backdrop if you have one
07:21.33Mikkyou want to add a separate texture that draws in the background, which is mostly transparent
07:21.35Mikmahmm yeah, now i don't propably have one, or if i do it's sized the same as the texture
07:22.12Mikmayeah texture...
07:25.23CIA-1103ckknight * r7263 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - Lock tooltip is now disabled if tooltip isn't detached.
07:26.36MikmaMikk: well ActionButton1:LockHighlight() will have some effect, but the problem is now the button loses highlight coloring ;)
07:27.32vhaarrckknight: "Dewdrop-2.0\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:2307: bad argument #1 to 'lower' (string expected, got nil)"
07:27.42vhaarrckknight: happens when I rightclick some FuBar plugins
07:27.44vhaarrnot all
07:27.51ckknightokay.
07:28.17vhaarrckknight: it seems to happen on FB2.0 plugins, but not 1.2.
07:28.38ckknightfigured it out
07:29.35CIA-1103ckknight * r7264 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - bugfix
07:29.44CIA-1103ckknight * r7265 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - bugfix
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07:29.55ckknightfixed
07:29.56ckknighthey Indie
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07:30.37Industrialmorning
07:31.02ckknighthey Cartas
07:31.07IndustrialTime to spend some time to wow
07:31.12Industrial:o
07:31.18IndustrialNeronix, celebrating?
07:31.20ckknightNeronix, get plastered?
07:31.38CartasGood morning, Ckknight!
07:31.39NeronixI just got a glass of champagne, when I asked for a beer
07:31.54vhaarrckknight: "FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:751: Dewdrop-2.0: Cannot inject into options table argument #3 if its type is not "group"".
07:32.43IndustrialNeronix, birthday? =P
07:32.49NeronixNo, exam results
07:32.55Industrial\o/ gz!
07:33.00Neronixthanks ^^
07:36.37Mikmaoh great, i think i can use my enemy, ActionButton1NormalTexture in this fight
07:37.06FISKER_Qomfg
07:37.08FISKER_Qstupid blizzard
07:37.18ckknighthrm?
07:37.24FISKER_QFirst they make this uber expose armor, then they nerf it and make it stackable with sunder
07:37.31FISKER_Qthen it's a bug and remove the stacking
07:37.33FISKER_Q:(
07:38.00CIA-1103ckknight * r7266 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FBP-2.0 - typo
07:38.01ckknightvhaarr, sorry
07:38.14Arrowmasteratleast your expose armor is still useable
07:38.27Mikmahmm
07:38.41Mikmanow i need a perfect 30% transparent background :(
07:38.53Arrowmastermy eye of kilrogg got a tooltip change in 1.12 because apparently it was never ment to have stealth
07:39.21MikmaArrowmaster: did it have stealth?
07:39.36FISKER_Qyeah
07:39.38Mikmawell, the tooltip said "the eye is very fragile and stealthy"
07:39.39kergothElkano: i have a random idea for elkbuffbar.  let me drag the bar of a single buff off of the group out on its own, and perhaps scale it independently.   so dragging it out results in it becoming a member of a new group of bars.  then i could make certain buff timers more prominent
07:39.42Arrowmasterit did but they broke it the same patch the nerfed aimed shot shadowmeld
07:39.44kergothElkano: like slice & dice for my rogue
07:39.57FISKER_Qbut it's gonna be bullshit in MC then
07:40.02vhaarrckknight: "FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:756: attempt to call method 'FeedAceOptionsTable' (a nil value)"
07:40.11FISKER_Qa level 1 eye trying to see what's around a corner lol :P
07:40.16ckknightblah
07:40.24Mikmakergoth: fritti is making AceTimer ace2, i think
07:40.54Arrowmasterits still the same level as whoever summoned it, just its not stealthed so its a shitty scout
07:41.17CIA-1103ckknight * r7267 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FBP-2.0 - another typo
07:41.21Frittiwell I haven't even started yet, but I'm contemplating it
07:41.23Mikmawell anyway the whole eye of kilrogg is bure crap
07:41.28ckknightvhaarr, if you'll notice, I don't test before I commit
07:41.40vhaarrckknight: hehe, yes I notice :)
07:41.42ckknightthat's your job ;-)
07:41.48ckknighthehe
07:41.57ckknightworks out, though
07:42.02ckknightit should be fixed now
07:42.29Industrialasdfadsfgg why doesnt teknicolor work with idChatPlayernames
07:42.33Industriallemme fix that regex
07:42.33Industrial:>
07:42.45vhaarrckknight: The "Position" 2nd level submenu is empty on all plugins
07:43.08ckknightby all plugins, what plugins do you mean?
07:43.10vhaarrall 2.0 plugins
07:43.42ckknightstill not helping
07:43.44ckknightspecifics.
07:43.55vhaarrspecific plugins?
07:43.58ckknightyes
07:44.08ckknightcause ClockFu's shows up
07:44.11ckknightand it's 2.0
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07:44.25vhaarrBW2, TinyTipFu, MiniPerfsFu
07:44.32vhaarractually, ImpRFW works
07:44.42vhaarr*ImpRWF
07:45.36vhaarrMiniClockFu is misbehaving, I think
07:45.57vhaarrit has its option "Show Local Time in Panel" in the Positions submenu
07:46.04vhaarrnot sure if that is intended or not
07:47.00FISKER_Qbtw clockfu 2.0 was in the branch right?
07:47.06vhaarryes
07:47.28ckknightyea, I should merge that in
07:47.40Frittiis it possible to change the keybinding global strings, ie names/headers?
07:47.43ckknightvhaarr, that's due to sloppy coding :-P
07:48.06Frittithe blizz default ones I mean specifically
07:48.11FtH|Eaglemorning
07:48.18ckknightmorning, Mr. Eagle
07:48.24FtH|Eagle:)
07:49.10CIA-1103moonsorrow * r7268 10GotWood/ (GotWood.toc GotWood_Data.lua libs/):
07:49.10CIA-11GotWood:
07:49.10CIA-11- Fixed earthbind totem time
07:49.10CIA-11- Added compost as external
07:49.18MikkFritti: write a new keybinding manager :-)
07:49.57Frittiyou mean myBindings2? no thanks :)
07:50.18FrittiI was actually wondering if I could mod Ackbar to use the blizzard bar keybindings
07:50.35Mikkjust hook their functions
07:50.40Mikktadaa
07:50.48CIA-1103sole * r7269 10Soap/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
07:50.48CIA-11Soap:
07:50.49CIA-11* removed Soap.xml, anchor frame is now created in lua
07:50.49CIA-11* seperated spells table, now found in Soap-SpellsDB.lua
07:50.49CIA-11* optimized event parsing method
07:50.50CIA-11* hopefully fixed the friendly casting bars
07:50.51Frittiyeah but for clarity I'd like to rename the bindings in the menu too
07:51.07Solenow all thats left to do is come up with a new name
07:51.07Frittiie rename bottomleft multibar heading to 'ackbar bar 3'
07:51.15Mikkugh yeah
07:51.20Mikk"bottomleft"
07:51.24CIA-1103moonsorrow * r7270 10XRS/XRS.lua:
07:51.24CIA-11XRS:
07:51.24CIA-11- using bucketevents along with queueing now (hope that helps with the lag)
07:51.34Mikk"ok, that's nice.. except i don't display all the bars. i just know it's bar 3... now which one is that kplxthx?"
07:51.40Frittiexactly :)
07:52.08CIA-1103ckknight * r7271 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB - in SetProfile, it will call any embeds/superclasses :OnEmbedProfileDisable(self) and :OnProfileEnable(self, "oldName", oldData, "copyFrom") if available.
07:53.25CIA-1103ckknight * r7272 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FBP-2.0 - :AddImpliedMenuOptions() now returns true if it properly added menus
08:05.13vhaarrckknight: earlier the Position submenu would be empty, now it doesn't show at all. The "Position" entry is there, there's just no submenu appearing.
08:05.35ckknightah, it's the same thing, technically
08:05.35vhaarroh wait, there it is
08:05.47ckknightI know why
08:05.51vhaarrexactly the same, then, it just didn't show until I had expanded a normal submenu
08:06.00vhaarrs/normal/working
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08:07.10SoltanisHello All
08:07.30ckknighthey Soltanis
08:07.39ckknightvhaarr, yea, I know why :-P
08:08.11vhaarrckknight: excellent :)
08:08.53oxmando you know an addon to emulate a raid ?
08:09.01oxman(to configure / program raid addon)
08:09.18oxmanan addon hook all Unit function and return custom value for "raidx" unit
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08:13.26FtH|EagleHm. I updated all of my ace2 mods, and now I cannot get into the game anymore :(
08:13.34ckknightoxman, find a friend, make a raid
08:13.42ckknightFtH|Eagle, odd...
08:13.52ckknightload only 1 mod?
08:13.53vhaarrI just relogged, works fine for me.
08:14.14oxmanprogram/test something like multiple columns layout with one friend
08:14.17oxmanit's not easy
08:14.17oxman;D
08:15.15ckknightwtf?
08:15.26ElkanoI shouldn't be calling OnUpdate() but Update() instead... ;)
08:15.57ckknightwhatever.
08:16.04ckknightI didn't know what you wanted
08:16.08oxmanis it possible to call an internal event of wow ?
08:16.10ckknightI assumed you declared OnUpdate
08:16.14oxmanif i want call "UNIT_HEALTH"
08:16.24ckknightoxman, with Ace2, yes
08:16.29FtH|Eagleargh, and what's going on with the fubar compat folder? always getting an error
08:16.31ckknightbut it'd only be seen within Ace2 addons
08:16.36oxmanhum ok
08:16.38ckknightFtH|Eagle, I don't know
08:16.40ckknightworks for me
08:16.54FtH|EagleI did a fresh checkout
08:17.08FtH|Eaglegetting can't find a empty directory
08:17.10FtH|Eaglealways
08:17.35FtH|Eaglefor babblelib-1.0
08:19.06oxmanbut praid don't use ace2 only ace
08:19.08oxman=[
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08:19.47Mikmais it just me or are all the Tinypads broken?
08:20.03FtH|Eagleok, I think the svn is currently broken, have to wait :)
08:20.22Mikmai can't use any Tinypad to enter anything in game
08:23.58ckknighteverybody dance!
08:25.40ckknightCIA's broken, it seems
08:25.48MikmaCIA-11: biatch
08:25.48ckknighteither way, I updated Tablet and FBP-2.0
08:26.02ckknightnow if you change the profile, the detached tablets will properly update.
08:26.05ckknight(it's awesome)
08:26.47Mikmagello fix your damn addon!
08:26.55CIA-1103ckknight * r7274 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - updated stuff. Better profile handling
08:26.55CIA-1103ckknight * r7273 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: Tablet - added :UpdateDetachedData(parent, data)
08:26.58Mikmaboom
08:27.20ckknightboomtasm
08:27.26Mikmaoh FFS
08:27.32CIA-1103ckknight * r7275 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/Lib/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua: FBP-1.2 - now it shouldn't die on profile switches.
08:27.35Mikmatinypad FTL
08:27.41Elkanockknight, I've added cats and lines with checkboxes to a tablet and assigned a func to toggle. how do I make the tablet stay visible in order to click it? (fubar plugin)
08:27.44Elkanobtw: Tablet-2.0\\Tablet-2.0.lua:1541: attempt to call method `assert' (a nil value)
08:27.59Elkanoah, and why is my text going over the size of the tablet?
08:28.01ckknightgoddammit
08:28.09ckknightbecause you touch yourself at night.
08:28.14Mikmayeaaaaah
08:28.19Mikmai'm not the onlyone it seems
08:28.57ckknightwhen does it happen, Elkano?
08:29.02ckknightElkano, .clickableTooltip = true
08:29.28Mikmaanyone has some experience about LuaSlinger
08:29.43CIA-1103ckknight * r7276 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: Tablet - bugfix
08:31.28FtH|Eaglefound the reason for the wow problem: bugsack/buggrabber
08:31.34ckknightlol.
08:31.44ckknightsomeone needs to fix that thing.
08:31.58Frittimeh
08:32.01Mikmai can fix iiiit!
08:32.02FtH|EagleIf I could get into the game :P
08:32.03Mikmarm -rf
08:32.04Frittigot any probs FtH|Eagle?
08:32.10FtH|Eaglemh yeah
08:32.15FtH|Eaglewow doesn't load with it :P
08:32.17Frittitell me tell me! :)
08:32.26FtH|Eaglestops at 50% of the bar
08:32.28Frittidoh
08:32.30FtH|EagleI let if for 10 minutes
08:32.32Frittiweird
08:32.42[Ammo]morning
08:32.45FtH|Eagles/f/t
08:32.51FtH|Eagleok, wrong syntax :P
08:32.53ckknighta/s/l?
08:32.57Mikmadon't anyone else have the TinyPad problem?
08:33.08Mikmait doesn't do anything when i do a piece of code and launch the page
08:33.16FrittiFtH|Eagle: and if you revert a revision?
08:33.21Mikmabut when i relaunch the page i get a (random)error
08:33.25Fritti(ie is the problem in my latest commit)
08:33.33FtH|Eaglealright, will test that
08:33.54Frittianother thing to try: move your SV !BugGrabber/BugSack.lua out of the way
08:34.06Frittiand if that fixes it please PM them to me
08:34.11Frittior pastebin or something
08:34.20FtH|Eaglebut I think svn won't let me test that
08:34.47Frittiwhat are you using for svn client?
08:34.51FtH|Eagletortoise
08:35.11Frittiyou can rightclick in the !BugGrabber directory, and then use 'Update to revision...'
08:35.32Frittialthough of course the svn is down right now :-/
08:35.34FtH|EagleI know, but where do I know the correct revision? So I'm looking at the logs
08:35.44ckknightFritti, SVN's not down for me, I keep committing stuff
08:35.54Frittiah no, it was just slow for a moment
08:36.03FrittiFtH|Eagle: try entering 'PREV'
08:36.12FtH|Eagleok
08:36.20Frittiit works on the cmdline, not sure about tortoise
08:38.20[Ammo]svn down again now
08:38.26[Ammo]usually happens around this time
08:38.41[Ammo]10:30am, ammo comes to work -> svn down :)
08:38.44FrittiFtH|Eagle: try rev 7752 if PREV doesn't work
08:38.45FtH|EagleFritti: it works, but slow :P
08:38.46ckknightyep, right around when Clad's asleep
08:39.01Frittioh doh that's my local svk rev
08:39.16Frittirev 7202
08:39.24Worfis there some reason behind this? some scheduled backups / syncing / whatever?
08:39.29MikmaYAY the tainted version of TinyPad still works
08:39.54[Ammo]could be
08:40.23[Ammo]clad said it might be maintenance or soemthing
08:40.28Mikmaoh lookie, cogwheel is the author of luaslinger
08:40.39Mikmaor is he...
08:41.11FrittiFtH|Eagle: I rather suspect the problem is that your SV\!BugGrabber.lua file is too big
08:41.19FrittiI fixed that last night
08:41.23FtH|EagleI always delete it
08:41.26Frittihrm
08:41.26FtH|Eaglewith clear errors
08:41.28CIA-1103ckknight * r7277 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FBP-2.0 - removed :SetLoadOnDemand(), reworked :IsLoadOnDemand()
08:41.32[Ammo]hmm
08:41.34Frittithen it's probably a logic error on my part :)
08:41.46[Ammo]CIA slow or it's bac k:p
08:41.54FtH|Eagleonly slow
08:42.02[Ammo]it's back ;)
08:42.22ckknightI have fixed almost all FuBar issues tonight
08:42.23ckknight:-)
08:42.27Frittiyay!
08:43.40FtH|EagleFritti: working again reverted both to the prev revision
08:43.44Frittik
08:43.53Frittiand you're sure you don't have savedvars when logging in?
08:44.11Frittiyou're on a german WoW client, right?
08:44.24FtH|EagleI am, and I didn't test without the savedvar
08:44.26FtH|Eaglegoing to now
08:45.27Elkanockknight http://ace.pastecode.com/2786
08:45.57NeronixWhat's with all the different pastebins?
08:46.36Soltanistheres an ace pastey as well i believe :-)
08:46.38NeronixWhy can't there just be one?
08:46.49FtH|EagleFritti: now it's working
08:46.58FrittiFtH|Eagle: ok, that's with PREV revision and no savedvars?
08:47.02FtH|Eagleno
08:47.06FtH|Eaglelatest rev and no savedvar
08:47.08Frittik
08:47.12Frittican you send me your savedvars?
08:47.19Frittithe non-working ones?
08:47.24Elkanopastecode seems to be pastebin but I couldn't access it via the pastbin url :(
08:47.33vhaarrckknight: I'm still getting an empty Positions submenu
08:47.43CIA-1103ckknight * r7278 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: Tablet - changed all lib locals to Tablet
08:47.43FtH|EagleFritti: But you were right, I got more than 100 errors in there
08:47.48ckknightvhaarr, that's the plugin authors' faults.
08:47.56FtH|Eaglebut I know for sure that I always clicked clear errors
08:47.56vhaarrckknight: why?
08:48.08ckknightvhaarr, because of the way the menus changed
08:48.09FrittiFtH|Eagle: yeah, but I put in code that should remove the excess and apparently that wasn't working either :(
08:48.19FrittiFtH|Eagle: hmm, ok, I'll double check my reset function then
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08:48.25ckknighthey MoonWolf
08:48.35MoonWolfI will take no more of this Mikma, *takes the trout away and puts it back in the wild*
08:48.36ckknightvhaarr, what's a link to one of the offending plugins?
08:48.36CIA-1103neronix * r7279 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua:
08:48.36CIA-11MobHealth3
08:48.37CIA-11- Optimisation. Now creates 0 tables per enemy
08:48.37CIA-11FAQ:
08:48.37CIA-11"You created a table for every mob!?" - Yes
08:48.37MoonWolfgood morning
08:48.39CIA-11"Who is to blame for this monstrosity?" - Mikk :P
08:48.57ckknightNeronix, lol?
08:48.59Mikmalol
08:49.00vhaarrckknight: http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/FuBar_TinyTipFu/TinyTipFu.lua
08:49.02MoonWolfStop abusing my autoresponse
08:49.08Mikmanow that's a good commit
08:49.13Neronixlol indeed
08:49.20MikmaMoonWolf: i just can't do it captain, i don't have the power!
08:49.29MoonWolfhhehe
08:49.35ckknightokay, hrm
08:49.52CIA-1103elkano * r7280 10FuBar_ItemDBFu/FuBar_ItemDBFu.lua: FuBar_ItemDBFu - fixed Update() call
08:49.58ckknightsorry, vhaarr, I may or may not be a douche
08:50.04vhaarr:P
08:50.09MikmaMoonWolf: just as long as you don't spam the assclown -message ;)
08:50.30MoonWolfnot if you don't spam emotes with slaps
08:50.39Neronix~whaletrout MoonWolf
08:50.47purlACTION slaps MoonWolf with Hugh's more acrobatic cousin, Milliardo, who in turn slaps MoonWolf around a bit with a large trout
08:50.47Industrialassclown message? :P
08:50.49MoonWolfI will take no more of this purl, *takes the trout away and puts it back in the wild*
08:51.00MikmaMoonWolf: but we don't slapemote :D
08:51.09Mikmaaerg!
08:51.11Mikmatpyo!
08:51.18Neronixlkei gmo
08:51.26Elkanockknight, is it possible that tablet isn't taking checkboxes in account when calculating it's width?
08:51.29FtH|Eagle[Ammo]: How is the status of click-casting? :D
08:51.39ckknightElkano, possible...
08:51.43ckknightunlikely
08:51.49ckknightbut definitely possible
08:52.25Elkanosince I have no other clue why my text should be hanging out to the right side
08:52.50ckknightwhat happens if you turn off all your checkboxes?
08:53.17ckknighthasCheck = false/nil
08:53.17ckknightvhaarr, committing
08:53.51vhaarrckknight: can't test now, have to leave for work
08:53.55ckknightokay.
08:54.02ckknightthat's fine
08:54.06vhaarrI can test *at* work, however :P
08:54.09ckknightSVN's slow anyway
08:54.11vhaarrin ~1h
08:54.13ckknighthrm
08:54.46FISKER_QElkano
08:54.49oxman<PROTECTED>
08:54.50FISKER_Qwhat's ItemDBFu? :o
08:54.59WorfFtH|Eagle: i've just digged through maia's RosterLib... i wonder if such a thing would be usable for XRS ... what do you think? :)
08:55.42FtH|EagleWorf: Don't think so. I don't keep maintaining a roster or anything. I only update bars according to events fired
08:55.55ElkanoFISKER_Q: a FuBar plugin to show ItemDB's status
08:55.58WorfFtH|Eagle: hmm... true, actually
08:56.16FtH|EagleWorf: Did you test the latest auto-buff part?
08:56.41WorfFtH|Eagle: right, i knew i forgot something i wanted to do...
08:56.49FISKER_Qso ItemDB is a mod or?
08:56.56FtH|Eaglehehe
08:57.04FtH|EagleIt should work now without problems
08:57.12WorfFtH|Eagle: starting wow ...
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08:57.44Elkanockknight, with checks disabled it fits, with them enabled it's exactly their width that's missing
08:57.57ckknightthen that's probably the issue
08:58.05ckknightgoddammit you goddamn SN
08:58.08ckknightSVN*
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08:59.10Mikmapurl: poke ckknight
08:59.12purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind ckknight, pokes ckknight repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
08:59.43ckknightMikma, wtf?
08:59.48Mikmackknight: yes milord
08:59.56ckknightwhat's the issue?
09:00.13Mikmathe topic is just so damn complex i wanted purl to poke you :D
09:00.55Worfhmm... purl doesn't respond by "dabu?", ...
09:00.56FISKER_Qwould fubar 1.2 and bigwigs2 not work well together?
09:00.58ckknightI just added SN on farm status
09:00.59Fritti2 questions: what's the limit of an editbox size, and does it take up that much memory all the time or only when it's shown?
09:01.04ckknightFISKER_Q, *shrug*
09:01.16ckknightFritti, probably all the time.
09:01.28FISKER_Qwell someone from my guild is getting them from WoWi
09:01.32FrittiI guessed so :-/ so no 64k editbox for bugsack then :)
09:01.32FISKER_Qand you haven't released fubar 2 yet
09:01.37FISKER_Qso he has bigwigs 2 and fubar 1.2
09:01.38ckknightand only if it has text in it :-P
09:01.53Soltanismore work :-)
09:01.53ckknightFISKER_Q, hrm
09:02.10ckknightFISKER_Q, I'll be releasing FuBar 2.0 tomorrow probably.
09:02.19FISKER_Qok
09:02.23FISKER_Qi'll tell him to hang on then :P
09:02.34ckknightit should theoretically work, though
09:02.37SoltanisFISKER_Q : might end up having to use the minimap button
09:02.39ckknightFuBar 1.2 and Bigwigs 2
09:02.57ckknightyea, it would just use the minimap button
09:02.57Mikmahmmm, release :P~~~
09:03.11ckknight<PROTECTED>
09:03.33Fritti~whalestab svn
09:03.35purlACTION stabs svn with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
09:03.53FISKER_QWell "It doesn't work" was pretty much what i got to work with so i could only  assume that since he had fubar 1.2 that would be problematic :P
09:05.24MikkFritti: "limit of an editbox size"... i assume you mean letter limit
09:05.29Frittiyes
09:05.32MikkWell.. I've seen it misbehave above 4000 letters
09:05.37MikkBut it "usually" works well with more
09:05.38Frittiouch
09:05.42FrittiI've got that now :-/
09:05.53MikkAnd, yes, of course it uses that memory when not shown also
09:05.55FrittiI would rather use a scrolling message frame except you can't copy & paste from that
09:06.00MikkIt doesn't exactly forget its contents while hidden
09:06.07ckknightFISKER_Q, I'll check it out. it theoretically should work
09:06.15Frittiok, true
09:06.35Frittirephrase: does it also use the memory even having done :SetText("")
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09:06.46MikkDoubt it
09:06.50MikkBut have no way to tell
09:06.54MikkSince we're down in C land
09:07.08Frittibut anyway if > 4000 chars won't work anyway
09:07.18Mikknot reliably no :-/
09:07.19FrittiI need to figure out a way to get things in the copy buffer without an editbox :(
09:07.33Mikkgood luck >.<
09:07.51Frittifrom a quick wowwiki widget skim it seems the only thing that can select text is the editbox
09:08.29Mikkaye
09:08.36Mikkand you still have to copy manually
09:08.44MikkI wouldn'
09:08.55MikkI wouldn't mind a ClipboardCopy() api :-/
09:08.59Frittime neither
09:09.14FrittiI guess the only option right now is to mod bugsack to let it show one error at a time only
09:09.21Mikk(Though I can see why they don't want to do it.. suddenly the sandbox starts affecting things outside the game...)
09:09.26Frittiand let the scrollbar scroll through bugs one at a time
09:09.42MikkOh you just want to get errors out?
09:09.48FrittiMikk: ah right, just write an app that monitors the clipboard, presto, communication to the outside world
09:09.50MikkDump them to a savedvars file
09:09.57Frittiit saves them already
09:10.10Mikmamaia should wake up already
09:10.25Frittibut for end users it's quite handy to say 'show all errors', press ^c and then ^v on the flyspray
09:10.35Frittiexcept that with the backtraces, show all errors is bound to be > 4000 chars
09:10.55ckknightI would only want to copy one error at a time
09:11.04ckknighton flyspray only the first error is useful
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09:11.06Frittiok
09:11.16ckknightand really, show the first error first
09:11.17ckknightnot last
09:11.21FtH|EagleWhy not create a dewdrop list where you can select the errors?
09:11.28Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/maia.jpg
09:11.28Frittickknight: isn't it right now? that sucks indeed
09:11.40ckknightit wasn't before, I know
09:11.49FrittiI don't think I've changed that
09:11.57Frittibut that should be easy to fix
09:12.03ckknightI mean, with Bugsack, as new errors came, they would show up on top of the old one
09:12.14ckknightinstead of letting the first stick
09:12.27ckknighttotal pain in the ass
09:12.42Frittiwould a dewdrop scale?
09:12.59Frittias in, showing 10 errors with backtraces in a dewdrop is going to make a long list
09:13.37FtH|EagleNot the complete error, only the path or something like that to click on, then the error is in the normal edit frame
09:13.42Frittihmm
09:13.55Frittisounds like a plan
09:14.16WorfFtH|Eagle: yep, seems to do buffing just fine now
09:14.22FtH|EagleWorf: perfect :)
09:14.34FtH|Eaglebut maybe you can look at the code and tell me if you have any other improvements
09:15.45CIA-1103ckknight * r7281 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - possible fix
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09:15.58WorfFtH|Eagle: well, not at first sight...
09:16.08FtH|EagleThen it's good :)
09:16.50WorfFtH|Eagle: at second sigh i could mention that it doesn't work in group, only in raid, and i think it doesn't buff pets :D
09:17.05FtH|Eaglexrs is a raid addon :P
09:17.10Worfbut that's a other story :D
09:17.12FtH|Eagleand I really don't want to buff pets :D
09:17.28Worfpets are important! especially my pet! :D
09:18.03FtH|Eaglemaybe, maybe not :P
09:18.13Mikmadamn, 4 hours and i have been up for 24h :P
09:18.26CIA-1103elkano * r7282 10FuBar_FactionsFu/ (. FuBar_FactionsFu.lua FuBar_FactionsFu.toc Libs/): FuBar_FactionsFu - initial import
09:18.38CIA-1103moonsorrow * r7283 10XRS/XRS_BarClass.lua:
09:18.38CIA-11XRS:
09:18.38CIA-11- fix for ghosts !
09:19.52CIA-1103elkano * r7284 10FuBar_FactionsFu/Libs/: FuBar_FactionsFu - set externals
09:20.02Elkanoenjoy :)
09:22.05CIA-1103moonsorrow * r7285 10XRS/XRS.lua:
09:22.06CIA-11XRS:
09:22.06CIA-11- fix for frame height when rejoining a raid
09:23.56CIA-1103neronix * r7286 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua: MobHealth3 - Syncing docs to wiki
09:24.33Neronixhttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/MobHealth3_API_Documentation - I think I was half asleep when I originally wrote the example. Fixed now
09:26.13JagobahDoes MI3 use MI2's old database?
09:26.50NeronixIt doesn't convert
09:27.01Neronixit's trivial to recalculate again
09:27.10NeronixBut there's a metamethod proxy that works in reverse
09:27.26FtH|EagleNeronix: How is the current algorithm working? Because I wonder when it's showing me the health instead of 100 percent
09:28.16NeronixFtH|Eagle: It tracks the total damage taken and percentage change and creates an average over the session
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09:28.33Neronixit's a decaying average too so it accounts fine for players's health variations
09:29.08FISKER_Q:(
09:29.15FtH|EagleBut yesterday it took a long time until it's showing me the health number instead of the percent value
09:29.25NeronixHmm
09:29.35Neronixwhat unit frames were you using? and what were you fighting?
09:29.44FtH|Eaglenurfed
09:29.53FtH|Eagletrash/boss mobs in naxx
09:30.10Neronixit'll take a bit longer for raid mods because their percentage takes time to change
09:30.36Neronixthe estimator function is run on every unit_health, which is fired on every percentage change
09:30.40FtH|Eaglenow, they were changing a lot
09:30.41FISKER_Qelse he should up the precision right?
09:30.42FtH|Eagle-w
09:30.43gnorlishwhat's the easiest way to remove the basic blizz unit frame and target frame
09:30.55FtH|Eaglebut the health estimator wasn't there from the start
09:30.57FtH|Eagleit took a while
09:31.05FtH|Eaglewith the previous version, I saw it instant
09:33.01NeronixHmm
09:33.19NeronixSee, the old algorithm was a bit messy
09:33.28Neronixit'd store a value as soon as a percentage changed
09:33.57Neronixso if you only knock off say, 3% off any old mob, it'd store what would at that time be a quite inaccurate value
09:34.08NeronixAnd it messed abotu with medians
09:34.42NeronixMikk's algorithm creates an average over the session and does simpler maths
09:34.54NeronixDid the delay only happen the first time you fought a mob?
09:35.40vhaarr[Ammo]: http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=108 such a nice bugreport
09:36.19FISKER_Qwell seems to happen a bit on normal mobs as wel
09:36.20FISKER_Qwell
09:36.33FISKER_QI just tried it on a level 43 mob and i would shoot it down to 89
09:36.38FtH|Eagleyeah, only if I don't know the value, then it takes very long
09:36.39FISKER_Qthen i would shoot again and it would show the health value
09:37.05Neronixhmm
09:37.28Neronixnote to self: Never write a mod that does complex maths ever again
09:37.56NeronixFISKER_Q: Did it take several hits to register?
09:38.17FISKER_Qnah 2 hits
09:38.20FISKER_Qat most
09:38.27FtH|Eagleit took many many hits for me
09:38.27FISKER_Qbut my mob was a normal one
09:38.33FISKER_Qnot any raid mob or anything
09:38.37FtH|Eaglesometimes from 100-20%
09:38.46FtH|Eagleor even the next mob
09:38.54NeronixWeird...
09:39.21NeronixWhat did you set the precision to?
09:39.36FISKER_Qi got 10
09:40.04FISKER_Qhey
09:40.05ckknightvhaarr, I commented.
09:40.12ckknighthrm, vhaarr's back
09:40.16FISKER_Qwith precision 100 mine doesn't update either
09:40.17vhaarryes, I'm at work now
09:40.27FtH|EagleI think 50
09:40.39vhaarrckknight: hah, nice comment
09:40.51FtH|Eaglethe old algorithm stopped too early with 10 or 20, so I raised the value
09:40.57NeronixFISKER_Q: that means it stops calculating and trusts the value it has before you even touch it
09:41.10FISKER_Q:)
09:41.16NeronixPrecision works differently now
09:41.20FISKER_Qoh
09:41.37FtH|Eaglehow exactly?
09:41.37Neronixit's now the percentage health of the mob that you must reach before the new algorithm stops recalculating
09:41.56NeronixMikk thinks 10 should do, which works for me too
09:42.27NeronixBut I dont raid :P
09:42.34ckknightvhaarr, well, the dewdrop issue should be fixed
09:42.39vhaarrckknight: hm, seems the Positions menu works now
09:42.40vhaarrckknight: yeah
09:42.43vhaarrckknight: excellent, thanks
09:42.54FISKER_Qso that's why a precision of 10 would wait until 90% to show a health value
09:42.58FISKER_Q50 would mean 50%
09:43.00FISKER_Qand so on?
09:43.18MikmaKyahx|afk: did you have a look at that picture i pasted?
09:45.15CIA-1103ckknight * r7287 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FBP-2.0 - added :OnReceiveDrag()
09:45.16NeronixFISKER_Q: Nono, 10 is where it stops updating the cache
09:45.31NeronixThe API indexes the cache
09:45.54NeronixBasically, the logic works like this:
09:46.40NeronixOn every UNIT_HEALTH("target"), if the target is hostile, alive and not a player's pet, and the damage seen between percents (via UNIT_COMBAT) >0
09:47.06Neronixthen add the change in percentage and the damage done to the accumulator
09:48.10Neronixif the current percentage change total in the accumulator is greater than the precision setting, then update the cache
09:48.37Neronix(I messed up the explanation earlier. Precision is how many percents it waits before it starts caching)
09:48.55NeronixSo by default, you wait for 10% to be done to the mob before it starts updating
09:49.12NeronixThat way you have a reasonably accurate figure to work with
09:49.30NeronixSo if you want to see health earlier, turn the precision down
09:50.06FISKER_Qag
09:50.07FISKER_Qah
09:50.50FtH|Eagleah alright, changed it back then
09:51.11NeronixSorry about the bad explanation earlier. I misread a var name :P
09:51.50CIA-1103ckknight * r7288 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - removed some dead methods
09:53.42FtH|Eagleckknight: the enabledebugging function in aceevent, is this for profiling the addons? And if so, how can I access the data?
09:54.09ckknightAceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):EnableDebugging()
09:54.12ckknightthen it makes a table
09:54.14CIA-1103ammo * r7289 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua:
09:54.14CIA-11CandyBar:
09:54.14CIA-11* Should nolonger complain about bad gradients.
09:54.16ckknightcheck out the API, man
09:54.19ckknightI talk about this.
09:55.04FtH|EagleI'm currently reading this. But there is a remark with not exported
09:55.16CIA-1103neronix * r7290 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua: MobHealth3 - Tweaked description of the precision option
09:55.42[Ammo]vhaarr: that guy is not motivating me to do anything about it :)
09:55.49vhaarr[Ammo]: indeed
09:56.12NeronixBasically, I could have it desiplay health from the start and have it save inaccurate values to begin with
09:56.21Mikmagrr
09:56.23Neronixor you could wait a second and get proper data
09:56.49Mikmai hate blizzard showgrid
09:56.51NeronixOnly happens the first time a mob is seen
09:57.14NeronixTuring saving on will stop this having to happen each session
09:59.22CIA-1103neronix * r7291 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua: MobHealth3 - Tweaked description of the precision option, again
10:00.23FISKER_Qbtw
10:00.27FISKER_Qif anyone knows
10:00.41FISKER_QIs there anyway to make SVN not update to the newest revision during an update?
10:00.53NeronixCommand line or Tortoise?
10:00.59FISKER_QI noticed that Tortoise still keeps the old revision even if there's an revision update in the meantime
10:01.02FISKER_Qsvn
10:01.04FISKER_Qcommandline :P
10:01.40Neronixsvn up -r 1234
10:01.58FISKER_Qah
10:02.05FISKER_Qi just manually put in the revision number?
10:02.11NeronixYeah
10:03.04Neronixcan also be a date, HEAD (Latest), BASE (Base rev of an item's working copy), COMMITED ( Last commit at or before BASE), PREV (I think it's the previous rev... not sure:P)
10:03.09Neronixsvn help up for more info
10:03.36Mikmait's official
10:03.43Mikmai hate the blizzards showgrid
10:03.56Mikmai just wan't to burn it down and be hapyp
10:04.17FrittiPREV is previous committed version afaik
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10:04.38FISKER_Qthink i'll stick with the number :P
10:04.56NeronixPREV is what you do if someome breaks something :P
10:16.29FISKER_Qhttp://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3281/8aug2006ox2.jpg lolololol
10:19.52FtH|Eagleanybody knows the name of the syntax highlighting addon for tinypad etc?
10:21.07[Ammo]oh goody
10:21.12[Ammo]going to fight Maexxna tonight
10:21.19[Ammo]urgh
10:21.34CartasIs that a bad thing?
10:21.37FISKER_Qi hope you're a healer!
10:21.54[Ammo]i'm a lock :)
10:21.58CartasNerf.
10:22.00MikmaFtH|Eagle: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4895
10:22.05[Ammo]so I guess I'll be shooting at cocooned
10:22.16FtH|Eaglethx :)
10:22.22CartasWhat's your guild, [Ammo]?
10:23.22[Ammo]Auxilia on Kazzak
10:23.24[Ammo]EU
10:23.26Cartas:O
10:23.29CartasI'm on Kazzak too¬
10:23.41CartasIs that an alliance guild? (I'm new there)
10:23.54[Ammo]ah you're one of those migrater guilds that want to be in the shadow of forte eh?
10:24.03[Ammo]alliance guild yeah
10:24.05CartasHm?
10:24.12CartasI'm in a guild called Last Resort.
10:24.14[Ammo]we're having a guild influx on Kazzak
10:24.15FISKER_Qnoz alliance
10:24.40CartasI think that's because bad realms could migrate to Kazzak :P
10:24.41[Ammo]if that starts causing lag again meh :(
10:24.45[Ammo]yeah
10:24.48FISKER_Qravencrest > *
10:24.48[Ammo]fuckheads at blizzard
10:24.51CartasAhaha
10:24.58[Ammo]blizzard should have left Kazzak alone
10:24.58CartasI did a paid transfer though.
10:25.06[Ammo]we left Daggerspine because of overcrowding
10:25.10[Ammo]and now Kazzak is flooded
10:25.18CartasIt's still a low populated realm.
10:25.19CartasI think.
10:25.25[Ammo]it's a raid realm
10:25.30[Ammo]at peak times it's FULL
10:25.40CartasI've never had a queue yet!
10:25.41[Ammo]blizzard needs a reality check
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10:25.50[Ammo]not yet indeed
10:25.54Cartaslol
10:25.56FISKER_Qthere was a guild who migrated to this pretty lowpop realm from ravencrest
10:25.59[Ammo]but if more raid guilds migrate we'll ge queues
10:25.59FISKER_Qand it was a pvp guild
10:26.11FISKER_Qthey got pwned by pve'ers making truces when raiding :P
10:26.14CartasDoing well in Naxx. then, Ammo?
10:26.18[Ammo]we're doing fine
10:26.19FISKER_Qthen another guild who migrated to an even worse server than ours
10:26.21[Ammo]not really focussing on it
10:26.24CartasAh.
10:26.27[Ammo]although next week will be Naxx week
10:26.32CartasWe basically do nothing else :P
10:26.34FISKER_Qso we all lost the lag issues and the other guilds got more lag and crappy community :)
10:26.36[Ammo]we're doing one new boss per week atm
10:26.41[Ammo]and oneshotting them each week :)
10:26.51CartasWe're upto Loatheb atm, but doing AQ40 before the reset.
10:27.07[Ammo]Anub week 1, Razuvious week 2, Noth week 3 (yesterday, and Faerlina 47% right after)
10:27.16[Ammo]Faerlina will go down tonight
10:27.21[Ammo]and we'll go and spank Maexxna some
10:27.22Cartas:)
10:27.31[Ammo]we're not such a fast progressing guild
10:27.41[Ammo]we still clear BWL / AQ40 every week
10:27.46[Ammo]and use the spare time on Naxx
10:28.17[Ammo]others focus solely on Naxx, but that burns out people :)
10:29.14FISKER_Qwe're only in AQ40 :o
10:29.17FISKER_Qon huhuran
10:29.33[Ammo]we need viscidus down
10:29.34[Ammo]just ONCE
10:29.44[Ammo]19% best go
10:29.52FISKER_Qbring a billion mages
10:29.52[Ammo]he'll go down next time though
10:29.54[Ammo]naah
10:29.57[Ammo]we bring a balanced raid
10:30.06Industrialhaste_, I'm watching AirMaster now; its too funny
10:31.50[Ammo]viscidus is easy, just quaff pots and get the blob assists right
10:32.00[Ammo]but it's not worth it in the end
10:34.26vhaarr[Ammo]: excellent chance to test my faerlina changes, I haven't been able to myself
10:34.32vhaarrand won't in a long time, I think
10:38.23vhaarr[Ammo]: like http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=106
10:44.41Mikmainteresting
10:44.42Mikma_G["ActionButton"..i.."NormalTexture"]:SetVertexColor(1.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.5)
10:44.49Mikmaif i comment that one out i get a error in game
10:45.12Mikma'end' expected (to close 'for' at line ... near '<eof>'
10:46.07Mikmawell, seems like i can't have comment in that for :)
10:48.53vhaarrDoes CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_PARTY_BUFFS fire for people in your raid?
10:49.02vhaarror just your party?
10:49.51CIA-1103neronix * r7292 10MobHealth/ (MobHealth.toc MobHealth3.lua): MobHealth3 - Added readme
10:49.53vhaarrbah, I'll log and test
10:50.13CIA-1103ckknight * r7293 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FBP-2.0 - initial :Show() now checks for proper FuBar version. if < 2.0, then it shows on the minimap.
10:50.18ckknightalright, Bigwigs2 now works on FuBar 1.2
10:50.28ckknightwell, it coexists
10:50.29vhaarrckknight: 1.0?
10:50.39ckknight1.0 what?
10:50.42vhaarrfubar
10:50.48ckknightthat's long gone
10:50.53vhaarrokay
10:50.59vhaarrI seem to remember we got a report on that
10:51.00ckknightbut probably
10:51.02vhaarrcool
10:51.05ckknightI just don't care about it anymore
10:51.09vhaarrof course
10:51.12ckknightBigwigs2 works on the minimap
10:51.13CIA-1103neronix * r7294 10MobHealth/ (MobHealth3 API Documentation.url readme.txt): MobHealth3 - I forgot to svn add the readme...
10:51.14vhaarrI was just wondering
10:51.22Neronixhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/MobHealth/readme.txt
10:51.23vhaarrBW2 has worked on the minimap for a long time
10:51.24ckknightalso,  Bigwigs' menu needs to be updated
10:51.25NeronixHow's that?
10:51.28vhaarrckknight: how?
10:51.35ckknighthow to what?
10:51.43vhaarrckknight: how does it need fixing?
10:51.52ckknightProfile is shown twice
10:52.16vhaarrit just does |Dewdrop:FeedAceOptionsTable(deuce.core.cmdtable)|
10:53.17ckknighteright, which is unneeded now :-P
10:53.23vhaarraha
10:53.25ckknightI'll fix it
10:53.32[Ammo]Options.lua ckk
10:53.33[Ammo]:)
10:56.25CIA-1103ckknight * r7295 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs - fixed menu. probably.
10:56.39ckknightI right-click on it and it looks fine
10:57.05[Ammo]I'll check it
10:57.55vhaarrckknight: I don't get 2x profile
10:58.06vhaarrckknight: without your fix
10:58.19ckknightvhaarr, it was without FuBar running
10:58.23vhaarraha
10:58.28ckknightlemme check now...
10:58.58vhaarrit's missing the standard fubar options no
10:59.00vhaarrnow
10:59.03vhaarrposition, etc
10:59.11ckknighthang on, I'm gonna check it out
11:04.02CIA-1103neronix * r7296 10MobHealth/readme.txt: MobHealth3 - Updated readme
11:04.04CIA-1103ammo * r7297 10EyeCandy/EyeCandy.lua: EyeCandy: update with some gradient test stuff
11:04.20Neronixhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/MobHealth/readme.txt - Is this suitable for release?
11:05.02[Ammo]why is the folder not called MobHealth3 :)
11:05.10[Ammo](dependancy sake?)
11:05.28NeronixYeah
11:05.47NeronixMH/MH2's were called MobHealth too, and supporting mods usually have that in their optionaldeps
11:06.01IndustrialQuestion: I have two ChatFrame:AddMessage() hooks, how can I get one to always do its thing AFTER the other? I want to add Teknicolor support to idChatPlayernames
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11:07.10[Ammo]that's a tough call industrial
11:07.18ckknightIndustrial, *shrug*
11:07.21[Ammo]you could however add Teknicolor as an optional dep
11:07.28[Ammo]that would make idChatPlayernames load after it
11:07.33Industrialyeah I thought of that but will that affect the hooks?
11:07.39[Ammo]so your hook should be the last or not?
11:07.44IndustrialIf I cant do it ill just add playername coloring to my addon :>
11:08.02[Ammo]but your addon messes with stuff enough to make Teknicolor not work?
11:08.08Industrialyeah
11:08.11[Ammo]bad bad
11:08.24Industrialturns [Playername] into <Playername>
11:08.35Industrialactually its just two regexes that dont cooperate
11:08.52Mikma*yawn*
11:09.00IndustrialText = string.gsub(Text, '|Hplayer:(.-)|h%[.-%]|h.-:', '<|Hplayer:%1|h%1|h>')
11:09.04Industrialthats idChatPlayernames
11:09.14Mikmaanyone knows a texturefile provided by blizzard which is like 30% transparent
11:09.43NeronixWhat happened to texture:SetAlpha()?
11:09.47IndustrialMikma, cant you set the alpha of something to 30% ?
11:10.03MikmaNeronix: for some reason they don't fire in login
11:10.11Neronixweird
11:10.13Mikmai can't understand why, maybe i'm just too damn tired
11:10.27IndustrialI just edited teknicolor to be
11:10.27Industrialtext = string.gsub(text, "|Hplayer:(.-)|h.-|h", "|Hplayer%1|h"..names[arg2].."|h")
11:10.39Mikmai can set the texture later with tinypad or opening my spellbook
11:10.45Industrialthat leaves me with <[Playername]> where [Playername] is colored
11:11.35NeronixI suppose a quick fix for being last in the hook chain is to do your hooking on AceEvent_FullyInitialised
11:11.41Neronixs/ised/ized/
11:11.59ckknightyea, pretty much
11:12.03ckknightuntil one of you disables
11:12.07ckknightthen it's all fucked
11:12.45Industrialill try the dep
11:12.51NeronixHmm, hackish workaround: Hook Teknicolor:OnDisable()
11:13.04Mikmaweird shit
11:13.09Neronixand then do Teknicolor:Hook(idChatPlayerNames, "OnDisable")
11:13.19Neronixcrazy shit, but that might work
11:13.24Industrial^^
11:15.04Mikmaoh ffs :D
11:15.33Mikmakinda hard to anchor images to buttons that don't exist.. right?
11:16.19Mikmaoh nvm, didn't work anyway
11:16.31CIA-1103neronix * r7298 10MobHealth/readme.txt: MobHealth3 - Readme tweak
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11:18.51CIA-1103ckknight * r7299 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FBP-2.0 - tweaked :GetAceOptionsDataTable()
11:19.24CIA-1103ckknight * r7300 10BigWigs/Options.lua: BigWigs - added a horrid hack to the options to steal FuBarPlugin-2.0 settings.
11:20.12ckknightokay, I'm gonna sleep
11:20.24ckknightlet Tek or whoever deal with that
11:21.08Tupladwhat's the time there ckknight?
11:21.18TupladTIME Tue Aug 08 01:20:10
11:21.30Tupladzomg 12 hour difference
11:23.48WorfNeronix: reading your MobHealth3_API_Documentation... what's so bad about calling mh3 with unit id "player"? :)
11:25.20Mikmaok i must admit it
11:25.28Mikmai can't use the NormalTexture in this one
11:25.35Mikmagotta find another way of doing it
11:25.48NeronixWorf: I mean call the right unit
11:26.07NeronixI've seen mods request target data when they're supposed to update player data
11:26.09WorfNeronix: ah
11:26.31WorfNeronix: ok, now i got it
11:26.33CIA-1103ammo * r7301 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua:
11:26.33CIA-11Bartender2:
11:26.33CIA-11* Since mikma is too lazy to make console options :)
11:26.34CIA-11* Here's a start with /bar or /Bartender2.lua
11:26.34CIA-11* Only toggle now avilable is /bar lock to unlock/lock the bars.
11:26.37[Ammo]there you go Mikma :)
11:27.08Tuplad<PROTECTED>
11:27.18[Ammo]I can do the rest of the options too if you want
11:27.30Mikma[Ammo]: lol thanks :D
11:27.55Mikmai'm off to bed really really soon, been up now for 22h and head keeps spinning around like kylie minogue
11:28.09[Ammo]I'll do some more of the options after lunch :)
11:28.12[Ammo]but check the code
11:28.15[Ammo]and see how easy it is.
11:28.33CIA-1103neronix * r7302 10MobHealth/ (MobHealth.toc MobHealth3.lua): MobHealth3 - Fixed TOC and docs
11:28.44oxmanfixed toc ?
11:28.48oxmantoday is patch day ?
11:28.51Mikma[Ammo]: lol you use the self.unlock in that table, that's clever
11:28.57Mikmawhat patch?
11:29.04oxman1.12 ?
11:29.05Neronixoxman: I left it as LoD
11:29.11NeronixI was testing memory usage
11:29.19Worfoxman: i think one can still have things in .toc to fix eaven when there is no patch
11:29.25oxman:p
11:29.41Worftough i'd be interested about when the next (1.12 ) patch will strike me
11:29.49vhaarr[Ammo]: I think when mobs get buffs, CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_CREATURE_BUFFS is fired even though they're mind controlled.
11:29.53NeronixWorf: I removed that line from the docs. It makes no sense, really
11:29.55vhaarr[Ammo]: I'll add that to  the raz bossmod now
11:30.31Tupladraz ?
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11:32.05CIA-1103rabbit * r7303 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua: BigWigs: Razuvious: Adding another buff event to try and catch shield wall.
11:32.29Mikmawell, i already got another idea for the buttons, let's see about it tomorrow :P
11:32.54Mikmawill propably get nasty :(
11:32.57Jagobahwhat's this about shield wall?
11:33.56Tupladwarrior thing
11:36.49FISKER_Qthe encounter in naxx you have to mindcontrol students
11:36.54FISKER_Qwhich are basically giant mofo tanks
11:36.59vhaarrMikma: why did you remove Bartender from trunk when bartender2 is not usable yet?
11:38.02Tupladit IS usable
11:38.39Mikmavhaarr: not usable according to who?
11:39.29Jagobahwhat is bartender
11:39.36vhaarrMikma: so you consider using /script commands being usable?
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11:39.44JagobahI need to find some thread where it says "this mod does this"
11:40.02Mikmavhaarr: yes since they all are documented
11:40.27IndustrialIf I have a function that returns more then one argument can i do func()[2] to get only the second?
11:40.42vhaarrMikma: the Windows API is also documented, that doesn't mean you run API commands from Start->Run instead of making applications.
11:40.43Mikmavhaarr: eventho it may be hard to use the /script's, Bartender2 is still working 10x better than the 1 was
11:40.58Mikmavhaarr: then use bongos :)
11:41.04vhaarrMikma: I have 3 friends using Bartender, and they love it.
11:41.14vhaarrMikma: now they can't SVN update becuause you *removed* the module?
11:41.22vhaarrMikma: tell me how that makes sense
11:41.24Mikmawhat's there to UPDATE? :)
11:41.36Mikmait's not being updated anymore at all
11:41.37vhaarrsvn update breaks with an error when they get to the Bartender folder
11:41.39vhaarrI know
11:41.53Mikmatell them to take it off from updatelist then
11:42.10Mikmawhat's the point on updating addons that aren't being worked anymore
11:42.17Mikmaanyway, i'm off to bed
11:42.20Frittiyou can let them delete the .svn folder
11:42.20vhaarrwhat's the point in removing it from the svn?
11:42.24vhaarrFritti: I know
11:43.08Mikmavhaarr: because it bugged more than Bartender2 at it's stage. if it's so important to you put it back up there then :)
11:43.17vhaarrmaybe I will
11:43.33Mikmafeel free :) thathaa
11:43.35vhaarrI'll see how far you get with AceConsole tomorrow
11:44.08JagobahThis whole Ace2 stuff worries me
11:44.27JagobahI tried updating BigWigs from the SVN and got too many missing library errors, I had to revert to Ace1
11:44.45CodayusJagobah: Hmm?
11:46.39Jagobah;o
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11:50.31tumetomhi
11:51.03Tupladhai2u
11:52.05tumetomI'd like to convert all lua files in a folder to utf8.
11:53.17tumetomdoes anybody have a idea how to do this in a "comfortable way" ? (batch...etc)
11:54.08Industrialhttp://www.google.com/search?q=batch+convert+to+utf8
11:54.11Industrial\o/
11:56.25[Ammo]Jagobah: use a proper SVN client
11:56.43oxmanrapidsvn ?
11:56.44oxman:p
11:56.48NeronixJagobah: Make sure your client uses externals
11:56.48tumetomace2 files seem to be encoded "strange"
11:57.06[Ammo]rapidsvn sucks
11:57.14[Ammo]use tortoise or apt-get install subversion :)
11:57.17oxmanWhy ? :)
11:57.18Neronixtumetom: Might be line endings rather than charset
11:57.21oxmanI'm on windows
11:57.25oxmanit's better to play at wow
11:57.25oxman=p
11:57.37Neronixoxman: TortoiseSVN is for windows...
11:57.51oxmanwhy tortoise is better than rapidsvn ?
11:57.53Neronixand you can get windows command line SVN binaries from the site too
11:57.58Neronixbecause it actually works
11:58.03oxmanrapidsvn too :|
11:58.08NeronixIt's all integrated into explorer
11:58.16oxmani prefer not
11:58.16oxman:)
11:58.21NeronixEverything's done via right-clicking folders/files
11:58.56tumetomneronix  I publish some ace 2 addons on lagcity.de for my guild. After http download ace2 files often ar corrupt.  I don't know why, but after utf8 conversion there is no problem
11:59.53NeronixIntriguing
12:00.04Neronixthink you should talk to ckknight about it
12:03.35phybercorrupt how?
12:04.06phyberit's just an ASCII file.  I'd think that the httpd or $randomguys webbrowser was fucking something up instead
12:05.32tumetomafter downloading, some lines at the end of the file are duplicated
12:05.59tumetomwhat, of course, results in a lua error.
12:06.28CodayusSome *lines*?
12:06.37CodayusNow that's remarkably special.
12:07.17tumetomI absolutly don't realy know whats going on there...
12:08.16phyberyou say http download.  are you downloading the .lua files from svn.wowace.com via a webbrowser?
12:09.09tumetomno. I download form svn.wowace.... via tortoise. and upload the files to my own server via ftp
12:09.20phyberok.
12:09.28phyberI guess you uploaded them in binary mode in your ftp client
12:09.36phybermake your client upload *.lua and *.toc in ASCII mode.
12:10.05phyberand if people are downloading them via FTP, then they also need to make sure to use ASCII mode
12:10.17tumetomdownload is only via http
12:10.26phyberok, then check how you're uploading them :)
12:11.30CIA-1103ammo * r7304 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua:
12:11.30CIA-11Bartender:
12:11.30CIA-11* Border toggling added to console
12:12.20phyberwoo, /commands in Bartender2 :)
12:12.24CIA-1103neronix * r7305 10MobHealth/readme.txt: MobHealth3 - Yet another readme tweak
12:12.41tumetomslash commands in plowking would be nice :)
12:13.15[Ammo]phyber: only lock toggle and border toggle :)
12:13.39[Ammo]I'll add the per bar stuff later on
12:14.16CIA-1103phyber * r7306 10XPBarNone/XPBarNone.toc:
12:14.16CIA-11XPBarNone:
12:14.16CIA-11- Changed to SavedVariables instead of SavedVariablesPerCharacter so that Ace2 profiles will work.
12:14.29phyber[Ammo]: I just wanted the locking option ;)
12:14.50IndustrialAttempt to hook a non-existant function: "VARIABLES_LOADED"
12:14.51Industrial:s
12:17.28Industrialwiki time!
12:17.30Industrial:p
12:18.09Industrialoh im such an idiot
12:18.19Industrialbakabakabakabaka
12:19.33phybersounds like japanese pacman approaching.
12:20.04ZiconThere is no japanese pacman.
12:20.07ZiconThere is only
12:20.09ZiconHANGLI MAN
12:21.03tumetomhow can I overwrite all local files with the ones from svn server?? (tortoisesvn)
12:22.01tumetomrevert?
12:24.19Industrialyay I win
12:24.28IndustrialI integrated Teknicolor into idChatPlayernames
12:24.36Industrialthanks tekkub !
12:25.17CIA-1103id * r7307 10idChatPlayernames/idChatPlayernames.lua: idChatPlayernames: Integrated Teknicolor into idChatPlayernames. Thanks Tekkub!
12:27.48CIA-1103id * r7308 10idChatPlayernames/idChatPlayernames.lua: idChatPlayernames: Removed a silly print statement
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12:33.05Tuplad:o
12:33.31TupladFuBar1 addons work with FuBar2 ?
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12:33.57[Ammo]FuBar1.2 addons do
12:34.01[Ammo]FuBar1.0 not sure
12:34.15[Ammo]if you use Fubar-compat-1.2
12:34.27Tupladmeh
12:34.31Tupladyea I meant 1.2
12:34.38TupladI didnt update from the SVN
12:34.48TupladI mean, I did once, but it broke FuBar
12:34.58[Ammo]it worked fine for me the whole time
12:35.14tumetomIt works fine.
12:35.14Tuplad:O
12:35.23tumetombut uses >2mb
12:35.44[Ammo]tumetom: you need to learn about libraries
12:35.48Nightdew_Good morning all
12:36.22Tupladtumetom: it desnt
12:36.24Tupladdoesnt*
12:36.25[Ammo]more specifically: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Ace2_Memory_Concerns
12:40.02tumetomso  the 2mb are libs that are used by many other addons, too
12:41.00tumetom?? but why does count warmup the memory use to Fubar-compat-1.2 and not to any other addon?
12:41.15Tupladomg
12:41.22TupladWarmup is lying to you, even the author says it
12:41.45Tupladit's just there to tell you the average memory usage, dont read it like the Holy Bible
12:44.41tumetomhm... if I don't load Fubar-compat-1.2, most if its memory usage (shown by warmup) should be shown to any other aced addon?
12:48.33snurreis it possible to change direction between horizontal/vertical bars in bartender2?
12:52.28TupladI think it is
12:53.45CIA-1103jncl * r7309 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc: FuBar_tcgTradeskills: correct mismatch between libraries in .toc and svn:externals definitions
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12:57.15JoshBorkemorning
12:57.47Nightdew_good morning
12:57.54snurreeek, nerf GotWood spamming me with errormsgs :p
12:58.35FtH|Eaglewhich one snurre?
12:58.39Nightdew_snurre: whats the error message?
12:58.44Nightdew_lol
12:59.03snurre[14:59-51]: GotWood\GotWood_ButtonClass.lua:96: attempt to index field `button' (a nil value)GotWood\GotWood_ButtonClass.lua:96: in function `event' AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:394: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:375>
13:00.16FtH|Eagleoh a new one
13:00.17FtH|Eagleyou are using the button view?
13:00.17snurreswapped into it, then back
13:01.09FtH|Eaglewhen did you get the error, after swapping back to the bar view?
13:01.46snurreyeah
13:02.06snurreafter swapping back from button to bar view it spammed that error like twice per second
13:02.15JoshBorkeok bye all :_)
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13:05.51[Ammo]snurre: I'm working on more chatcommand options for Bartender2 atm :)
13:06.49snurrei scrolled up and saw :p
13:06.53snurre<3 :)
13:07.33vhaarr[Ammo]: how's oRA2 coming along? really cool that you're working on it
13:07.48vhaarr[Ammo]: anything I can do to help with it?
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13:09.43CIA-1103moonsorrow * r7310 10GotWood/GotWood_ButtonClass.lua:
13:09.43CIA-11GotWood:
13:09.43CIA-11- fixed problem by switching views
13:10.46FtH|Eagletry again snurre
13:11.01snurrek, one sec
13:13.51snurreworking fine now, thanks
13:16.59FtH|Eaglenp
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13:19.48SilvioGmorning
13:21.35snurrewtf, bartender2 wont save settings on my shaman o.O
13:23.23tumetomdoes anybody kow about the perfectraid code? how "hard" would it be to implement mana bars?
13:24.21NeronixYay, got my screenshots
13:24.25NeronixMH3 is ready to release!
13:24.59tumetommh ==mobhealth?
13:25.13NeronixYep!
13:26.29tumetomnice. any url to read changes ?
13:27.03Neronixhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/MobHealth/readme.txt
13:28.37tumetomnice. will try it
13:30.29CIA-1103neronix * r7311 10DeuceCommander/DeuceCommander.toc: DeuceCommander - Added TabletLib to optionaldeps
13:31.40vhaarrckknight: is the "about" option something AceConsole adds?
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13:33.11vhaarrah, no, AceAddon
13:36.30NeronixHmm... how would I stop Skeeve from borging MH3 into MI2? Just put a little note on the addon desc?
13:37.11NeronixOr do I have to write my own license?
13:37.46vhaarrWhy would you not want that?
13:38.15NeronixHe'll mutilate it
13:38.38NeronixIn fact, I'll think about it more
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13:44.26TupladBartender doesnt seem to work at test server
13:44.54Tuplad~dict mutilate
13:44.54vhaarrckknight: any point in reporting flyspray bugs for upgrading your FuBar1.2 plugins to 2.0?
13:45.13TupladThe tourists murdered the French language - roflpancakes
13:45.16Frittivhaarr: I think you're allowed to do it yourself
13:45.26Frittijust branch them and update them
13:45.27vhaarrFritti: update them, you mean?
13:45.29vhaarrright
13:46.43tekkubthought of the day!
13:46.58tekkubwhat does "Don't dry with fakes or fears" mean?
13:47.08tekkubgive me an answer when I get off work!
13:47.21tekkuband no, that's not a typo
13:48.10Hakkerhmm is it possible to make tarballs for entire mods from the svn?
13:48.42HakkerI mean exporting the whole svn takes 40 minutes nowadays :(
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13:50.24Tupladyou cant hide bars with Bartender2 ?
13:50.37TemBar:Hide()
13:51.30ag`I give up
13:51.34ag`lol
13:52.18ag`Was trying to do something neat but somehow I kept getting my saved stuff resetted
13:53.48TupladTem: /script Bar:Hide(BagBar) or /script Bar:Hide(number)
13:54.13TemTuplad, I have no idea wtf you're talking about
13:54.24TemBartender makes stuff ugly, IMO
13:55.27Tuplad:/
13:55.32TupladTemBar:Hide()
13:55.35Tupladthat's what Im talking about
13:59.41Icerothtrunk\idActionBar\Ace2\AceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua - i smell conspiracy, what is action bar mod doing with comm lib?)
14:01.04FrittiIndustrial was lazy and added an external for the whole of Ace2
14:01.24vhaarrIndustrial: getting an error from the latest idChatPlayernames when I join a raid or stuff like that
14:05.37Icerothooh, mobhealth3 looks neat
14:06.57NeronixYou waited until it was released?
14:07.15Icerothyou were doing so many rewrites that i saved some trouble for myself :)
14:07.24Icerothi'll implement support to icehud now :)
14:07.33Neronix^^
14:09.55TupladIceroth:
14:10.02TupladIceHUD is so pimp now!
14:10.12Iceroth:)
14:10.50Icerothwell, all those adjust options for the bars are kinda sweet i suppose ;)
14:15.01Tuplad:D
14:22.20Tupladugh
14:22.34TupladClique doesnt automatically choose the rank, keeps using healing wave rank 9
14:23.09phyberbecause you told it to use max level all the time for that binding, or you used rank 9 when creating it?
14:23.15phybermaybe you want Clique:EfficientHeal() instead.
14:23.33Tuplad:O
14:23.44TupladI just opened Clique, clicked on Healing Wave r9
14:23.58phyberit works nicely.  I healed a 4 man group all the way through Uldaman with Clique :)
14:24.08Tuplad:o
14:24.10phyberPriest (me), 2xHunter, Mage.
14:24.11Tupladso what do I do now ? :<
14:24.30Tuplad<PROTECTED>
14:24.34phyberclick "new" and put 'Clique:EfficientHeal()' as the script command.
14:25.38Tupladok done, works :D
14:25.47Tupladthat's for slow & fast heals ?
14:26.05phyberI think Clique:EmergencyHeal() does fast heals
14:26.14phyberI haven't used that function yet though
14:27.18Tupladphat
14:27.19Tupladthanks
14:27.25phyber:)
14:29.05snurreit spams debug msgs when doing that tho
14:29.13CIA-1103grimwald * r7312 10ImprovedRWF/Core.lua:
14:29.13CIA-11ImprovedRWF:
14:29.13CIA-11* does no longer check if a message is spam when supress all is enabled (should be a tiny bit faster now...)
14:30.13phybersnurre: I think you can just comment out Clique:SetDebugLevel(1) to stop that.
14:30.50phyber(well, hopefully)
14:30.56Tupladyea, it's good
14:31.00TainWow, a guild ninja opened the AQ gates at midnight PST last night on my server.
14:31.01snurrek thanks
14:31.11TupladTain: guild ninja ?
14:31.36TainPeople got in a couple hours of rep and then maint, scrwed everyone over.
14:31.38FISKER_Qninja opened as in getting the mount without anyone else knowing
14:31.55FISKER_Qoh that way
14:32.29TainOpened without telling anyone they were going to do it and doing it purposely at a time to limit other people's participation.
14:32.52phybergood idea.
14:33.05phyberwe lost one scepter on bloodhoof because the server kept crashing.
14:33.14phyberluckily, someone else also had a scepter.
14:33.53Tupladum
14:34.04Tupladso because they dont tell people that it's going to be opened it's a "ninja guild" ?
14:34.54TainThe problem is no one on our server would have been close to openening the gates until transfers, then it was just a couple weeks.
14:34.58Tuplad:/ on my last server they opened it without telling anyone, they just did, I was there because I gave their GM some gold :D
14:35.15TainLetting people transfer to servers without AQ open was just foolish.
14:35.15snurrethe one with the mount on my old realm quit and deleted his character
14:35.22Tuplado_O pwned.
14:35.43Tupladbut why is it called legendary mount ?
14:35.47Tupladis it orange colored?
14:35.53snurreyes
14:35.56Tuplad:O
14:36.02snurreit's black bug
14:36.02TainIt makes your epeen bigger.
14:36.04CIA-1103grimwald * r7313 10BigWigs_NefCount/BigWigs_NefCount.lua:
14:36.04CIA-11BigWigs_NefCount:
14:36.05CIA-11* creating tables in OnInitialize(), only resetting the table values in OnEnable()
14:36.05CIA-11* small performance tweaks for the warning message checks
14:36.33Tupladmm
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14:40.50Tupladhttp://bbs.16t.cn/bbs/uploads/post1154535634/post-3166-1154538873.jpg what are those nubmers above is head?
14:44.37snurrehm.. gotwood timers stop if you go out of range from your totem
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14:45.03FtH|Eaglestops? cannot be
14:45.09CartasThey look strange, Tuplad.
14:45.14TupladCartas: Chinese :P
14:45.15FtH|Eagleit only stops if your totem is destroyed or your totem is destroyed
14:45.25CartasI mean, the numbers.
14:45.32Cartasand the floppy disk.
14:45.42Tuplad:o
14:46.10Elkanogiven the values (name, rank, level, class, zone, note, officernote) for guild mates, which two would you group (since tablet only supports 6 cols) and what order would you show them?
14:46.16CartasChinese writing looks so much better than English...
14:47.25Elkanoonly because you don't understand it :P
14:47.38Cartaslol
14:47.49CartasWell, that font in the screenshot looks nise.
14:47.51CartasNice*!
14:47.57CartasWoah, worst spelling of 'nice' ever... :(
14:48.33CartasAnyone know what font it is? :P
14:49.16Elkanowrt worse spelling: I found a variable named tekst today... *shivers*
14:49.47CartasHahaha
14:50.18Elkanofortunatly it wasn't my addon I found it in ^^
14:50.19CIA-1103iceroth * r7314 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.toc modules/TargetHealth.lua): IceHUD: Changed support from MobHealth2 to MobHealth3
14:50.29TupladElkano: that's dutch :x
14:50.44Elkanodoesn't make things better ;)
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14:55.12Elkanobut back to my question: any ideas?
14:55.45FISKER_QElkano note and officernote
14:59.08vhaarrKemayo: you there?
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15:06.12MvA|Slaymanmikma you around?
15:06.32MvA|Slaymans/you/are you/
15:13.42MvA|Slaymananyone of you know how to save position of the bartender2 moved bars?
15:16.04TainNo but I'm a little annoyed that everytime someone says it I still think of the hed p.e. song.
15:16.32phyberMvA|Slayman: it should save them as they move around.
15:17.03phyberwhen you stop dragging, the :SavePosition() is triggered.
15:17.23MvA|Slaymanif i manually execute Bartender:SavePosition() it saves, but as i logged in today it was resetted ...
15:18.37MvA|SlaymanSavePosition(arg1) of course with every bar.
15:19.32MvA|Slaymanmight be due to updating, or course
15:20.26CIA-1103thiana * r7315 10BigWigs/AQ20/Ossirian.lua: BigWigs: Ossirian - Add 10 second warning also
15:21.05phyberMvA|Slayman: yeah.  If Mikma has changed some of the SavedVar DB, he usually makes it reset.
15:22.00CIA-1103elkano * r7316 10FuBar_FactionsFu/ (FuBar_FactionsFu.lua FuBar_FactionsFu.toc): FuBar_FactionsFu - removed copypasta ItemDB dependency
15:22.24phyberDELICIOUS COPYPASTA, YOU MUST TRY SOME
15:23.47hyperChipmunkmmm
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15:24.55hyperChipmunkI'll have a double, please
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15:25.40hyperChipmunkoh fudge it's tuesday
15:28.11ElkanoI knew so would jump aboard :P
15:34.12snurrehm, wouldnt it be possible for Teknicolor to store player classes through sessions?
15:35.18eternally777snurre, should be
15:35.41snurreslightly annoying to have to open guild list etc at each login for it to work
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15:37.36FISKER_Qcould be to keep database sizes to a minimum?
15:37.38phyberwhy are people doing 'local _G = getfenv(0)' recently?  What does it actually do?
15:38.00phyberif someone cares to enlighten me :)
15:38.33phybertable with the entire environment in it or something?
15:39.17phyberseems to be so getglobal("wibble") doesn't need to be used.
15:40.12eternally777I'd be interested in knowing too
15:43.04eternally777such a shy bunch :-P
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15:47.52haste_phyber: like getglobal
15:47.55haste_phyber: getglobal("something") _G["something"]
15:48.05snurreGotWood doesn't show mana tide
15:55.52phyberhaste_: thought so :)  thanks
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15:56.32FtH|eaglesnurre: it does for me
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15:59.46FtH|eagleall other totems are working?
16:00.10snurrethink so yeah
16:00.45FtH|eagleyou are using the english client?
16:00.51snurreyep
16:01.16snurreit shows now
16:01.21snurredidnt last time i tried
16:01.24FtH|eagleweird
16:01.33FtH|eaglenever had any problems with totems not showing
16:01.51FtH|eagleplease look the next times, if this is reproduceable or something
16:02.00snurrewill try
16:03.54ThianaAnyone know a blp -> anything converter that runs under linux?
16:04.11hyperChipmunkthere's a java one
16:04.27ThianahC: Where?
16:04.30hyperChipmunksec, I'll host the .jar
16:04.33ThianaThanks :)
16:05.35TupladNeronix_: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5224 check comments :X
16:05.55hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/wowimage.jar
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16:06.24ThianaThanks hC :)
16:06.31hyperChipmunkI put a blp2png file in my ~/bin directory; basically consists of one line:
16:06.33hyperChipmunkfor i in $@; do java -jar /home/staharaj/wow/download/tools/wowimage.jar $i; done
16:07.10hyperChipmunksince you can only do one at a time
16:07.43hyperChipmunkif you just do java -jar blpfile.blp
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16:12.34MvA|Slayman@ industrial : http://pastebin.ca/122302  fixed error in idChatPlayerNames, cannot commit myself, kkthxbye
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16:24.28IndustrialMvA|Slayman, ah thanks, sorry, etc :>
16:24.54MvA|SlaymanIndustrial: check ur queries, for the most up 2 date pastebin plz
16:25.51Industrialyea
16:26.04ThraeHmm
16:27.58CIA-1103id * r7318 10idChatPlayernames/idChatPlayernames.lua: idChatPlayernames: fixed some bad typos, thanks Slayman.
16:28.01Industrial^^
16:28.13Industrialand now!
16:28.17Industrialanime :3
16:28.58venmh.. any way to make tinytip show the guild info on the second tooltip line instead of the third? :\
16:30.02Thraeven: TinyTip puts the Guild Name on the 1st line after the game engine's pushed information.
16:31.09ThraeI'd have to clear all lines and re-add them in a specific order, possibly killing other mods which expect the default game tooltip to be a certain way.
16:31.47CartasTuplad: Found out what addon that is on that Chinese picture?
16:31.59venah ok., was just asking because I'm used to style like: 1st line: Playername, 2nd line: Guildname, 3rd line: class/level info..
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16:33.05maiagood morning / afternoon / night.
16:33.18Shyvaheey maia
16:33.29haste_Is 'Grapevine' a okey name for a chat addon?
16:33.57steinolol
16:34.00maiahaste_: isn't that the apple headquarter location?
16:34.03Cartaslol
16:34.05steinoYou suck with names haste :p
16:34.09haste_fuck off :p
16:34.13CartasOtravi Instant Messenger. OIM!
16:34.18steinoyes
16:34.19steinooIM
16:34.34haste_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapevine_%28gossip%29 !
16:34.42maiaoINK - otravi INternational Kommunication.
16:34.54haste_rofl
16:35.48kopplehaste_: you seem to have a groupie: http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-en&t=52522&p=2
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16:36.00CartasKopple!
16:36.01CartasSo he does.
16:36.04kopple:O
16:36.09kopplehiya Cartas
16:36.16CartasHi old chap!
16:36.24kopple<- Kvasi, I guess you figured out
16:36.49steinohaha
16:36.50Cartas:)
16:36.55haste_lol
16:36.55CartasoUF > agUF!
16:37.02kopplehehe
16:37.04steinoCartas: You make such a big fuss over everything :P
16:37.10CartasI do?
16:37.16CartasI'm just guiding people to the light!
16:37.17maiaaah, now I know why my brain merged 'apple' and 'grapevine'
16:37.18steinoYes :<
16:37.38CartasNo way, Steino.
16:37.40CartasSTOP LYING!
16:37.43maiahaste_: ChitChat?
16:37.49steinoI am never lying :o
16:38.44Cartaslol
16:38.49CartasHastianism ftw?
16:39.09steinoxD
16:39.50haste_maia: I'm sticking with oGrapevine for nwo :p
16:40.02CartasNooooooooooo
16:40.04CartasHaste!
16:40.12CartasYou're like a God to these people, they want better!
16:40.24haste_huh?
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16:42.40CartasHmm
16:45.21Cartaskopple: You know you're a 'groupie' too!
16:45.58kopple'least I'm no Hastianist.
16:46.06Cartas:O
16:46.12CartasAre you denying Hastianism?
16:46.13kopple... Hasteist?
16:46.27CartasI don't know, hm...
16:46.31CartasWe'll have to figure one out.
16:46.34koppleI don't even use oUF!
16:46.46Cartas:O
16:46.50CartasYou did not just say that.
16:46.55kopplehaha
16:47.17CartasYou know on the forum where I put 'I guess I'll give it a try regardless!'?
16:47.46koppleyes? :|
16:47.54CartasI LIED!
16:48.44kopple:s
16:48.53Cartaslol
16:48.59CartasAh, I'm only kiddin', old chap!
16:49.12CartasI'll give it a try so I can compare it to oUF...
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16:49.33kopplehehe
16:50.01maiaanyone who could help me think outside the box? I'm trying to sort a non-integer keyed table by one of its values, an integer. If you either want to feel my pain or laugh about me, take a look at: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1846.0.html
16:50.08CartasYou have a great looking U.I. btw, Kopple!
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16:51.15kopplethanks, yours isn't so horrible either ;)
16:51.18koppleI mean, for a cow
16:51.21Cartaslol
16:51.35CartasI don't mind that mine looks bad.
16:51.51CartasIt's just nice and clean and functional!
16:52.12CIA-1103ammo 07Ammo * r7319 10oRA2/oRA2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): oRA2: Events renamed to be more consistent
16:53.05koppleye, it looks good
16:55.48vhaarranyone know if 1.12 is tomorrow?
16:55.56FryGuydon't think so
16:56.07vhaarrme neither
16:56.16CartasAmericanskis didn't get theirs today.
16:56.16maiait isnt.
16:56.21maiaexactly
16:56.30vhaarrindeed
16:56.32FryGuyptr is still up afaik
16:57.00CartasIs there anything really good coming in 1.12?
16:57.14CartasThe only major thing is Cross-server BG's?
16:57.39KebinusanNo the US didnt get ptr today
16:58.06Kebinusanerr 1.12
16:58.11Cartaslol :p
17:00.15CIA-1103chinkuwaila * r7320 10BigWigs/MC/ (BaronGeddon.lua Lucifron.lua): BigWigs (Geddon, Lucifron): updated deDE localization again
17:00.15vhaarrCartas: The addon channel.
17:00.15CartasThe addon channel?
17:00.51*** join/#wowace Amadeo (i=amadeo@c-69-140-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
17:00.53maiaSendAddonMessage()
17:01.10CartasIs that... major?
17:01.16haste_yes
17:01.16vhaarryes
17:01.22maiavery
17:01.32maiano more need for a CTRA channel - or other channels.
17:01.39CartasOh :O
17:01.55CartasSo, no oRA channel, no DmgMeters/SWStats channel?
17:02.01haste_exactly
17:02.07CartasYay!
17:02.15vhaarrExcept that DM is abandoned, so it won't be updated.
17:02.17CartasNow I can have just 1 channel!
17:02.31FryGuy0 channels ;p
17:02.37CartasAww
17:03.06maiaI bet we'll have tons of addons that will check the raid if everyone has that addon, and if not spam these users with "get XY, its a great addon"
17:03.42vhaarrI'll take that bet.
17:03.44haste_rofl
17:03.46vhaarrWhat are you waging?
17:03.48CartasLet's make some.
17:04.02maiaSpam 1.0
17:04.08CartasoUF2.
17:04.19CartasIt'll tell everyone to get oUF!
17:04.29haste_lol
17:04.37CartasLeifur, you need to add it.
17:04.43maia..."hey xy, haste wants to let you know you should replace your unit frames with oUF. your CTRA sucks"
17:05.17CartasCan it check the name of the addon?
17:05.25CartasOr just that they don't have the addon?
17:05.35haste_"hey, I noticed that you are using CTRA, or a old version of oRA. I recommend you to switch. This message will be resent in 1min"
17:05.43Cartaslol
17:06.00Amadeowho knows exactly how the Honor system works? :P
17:06.08haste_hC
17:06.16CartashC apparently knows everything.
17:06.23CartasBut that means he knows he knows nothing.
17:06.24haste_he  does?
17:06.26CartasSo... I doubt it.
17:06.46haste_well, hC was a PvP whore - so he should know it :p
17:07.03AmadeohyperChipmunk is afk though :)
17:07.11CartasHe can't be that smart then.
17:08.50hyperChipmunk'sup
17:09.06CartasDo you know everything?
17:09.10hyperChipmunkI do
17:09.16CartasYou know that you know nothing then?
17:09.34AmadeohyperChipmunk: Say I'm rank 6 and I push X amount of honor....and there's a guy who's about to make Rank 14, and he pushes 1,200,000 honor...does that affect me at all, and how?
17:09.36hyperChipmunkSocrates was a wus
17:09.40hyperChipmunkI know everything
17:09.52CartasYou know everything, including things which can't be known by you? :P
17:10.33hyperChipmunkAmadeo: yes; rank doesn't factor into the equation, it's merely the result
17:11.10Amadeosomeone told me the only honor that affects me is within my current rank
17:11.10Amadeoand I didn't think that was true...
17:11.10hyperChipmunknope
17:11.10hyperChipmunkstanding #1 gets 13,000 honor
17:11.12hyperChipmunker, rating
17:11.47hyperChipmunkdoesn't matter if that person needed 5000 honor or a million honor to place first
17:12.08Amadeobut how does he affect me?
17:12.14hyperChipmunksubsequent standings get less and less based on the ratio of their honor to the #1 honor
17:12.28hyperChipmunkregardless of rank
17:12.40ckknight_vhaarr, yea, those are bugs
17:13.04vhaarrckknight_: 1.2 -> 2.0 conversions?
17:13.11CartashyperChipmunk: I have Maladath, Widow's Remorse and Edge of Chaos. Does the +4 weapon skill from Maladadth make it a better mainhand (assuming Widow's in offhand) for PvE DPS?
17:13.11AmadeohyperChipmunk: My server implemented some player-made "honor cap" and it just screwed me over, so I'm not too happy about it
17:13.17Amadeoand the guy working on it doesn't know how the system works
17:13.40hyperChipmunkif a private (rank 1) gets 300k honor and standing 1, and a field marshal (rank 13) gets 250k honor and standing 4, then the private will get 13000 rating points; the field marshal will get about 12500
17:14.07ckknight_vhaarr, yea
17:14.15vhaarrok
17:14.21ckknight_granted, I won't necessarily be the one closing them, is all
17:14.50hyperChipmunk60000 rating points are required for rank 14, 55000 for rank 13, and so on down the line; you lose 20% of your current rating each week, and the rating points you earn that week are then added to determine your new rank
17:14.56maiahyperChipmunk: but afaik even if a private had standing #1 for a month, he'd still not get past maybe rank8.
17:15.10hyperChipmunkwell you can do the math
17:15.19hyperChipmunkfour weeks
17:15.24CartasC'mon guys. I need to ask questions too!
17:15.36AmadeoI see
17:15.51Amadeothose are preset numbers?
17:16.26hyperChipmunk13000 + (.8*13000+13000) + (.8(.8*13000+13000) + 13000) + .8(.8(.8*13000 + 13000) + 13000) + 13000
17:16.35hyperChipmunkwould be four weeks
17:18.49maiahyperChipmunk: may I ask a question related to AceTab? Until maybe 2 weeks ago tab completion of the Squishy AceOptionsTable worked. I never had more than AceTab = AceLibrary("AceTab-2.0") in my code, didn't do anything else with it. It just magically worked. Now, well, it stopped working. And even though you have some examples in the wiki, I'm wondering what one needs to do to enable AceTab to complete stuff from the options table. do I
17:18.51CIA-1103thiana * r7321 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0: typo in CreatePluginChildFrame() frame -> child
17:19.55hyperChipmunkmaia: nothing's changed
17:20.07hyperChipmunkI'll download squishy and have a look when servers are up
17:20.08maiathats strange.
17:20.39CartashyperChipmunk: I have Maladath, Widow's Remorse and Edge of Chaos. Does the +4 weapon skill from Maladadth make it a better mainhand (assuming Widow's in offhand) for PvE DPS?
17:21.02maiahyperChipmunk: well, would I need something like AceLibrary("AceTab-2.0"):RegisterTabCompletion(myAddonAceOptionsTable)?
17:21.40hyperChipmunkmaia: no, that's done in aceconsole
17:21.43hyperChipmunkunless you don't use it
17:21.51maiaI do
17:22.48AmadeoCartas: I don't know either weapons, but probably :P
17:22.59Cartaslol
17:23.09CartasThanks for the advice, Amadeo!
17:23.10hyperChipmunkCartas: depends on the level of the mobs and your weapon skills
17:23.12Amadeoweapon skill is huge in PvE
17:23.32AmadeoCartas: hyperChipmunk has 7000+ HP unbuffed, and he's a Hunter, you should just believe him
17:23.33Amadeo:D
17:23.33hyperChipmunkunless he's fighting lower-level enemies or has other bonuses
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17:23.47CartasWell
17:23.58CartasI assume it's lvl 63 ;p
17:24.12CartasI have 300skill in axes and swords. (304 with Maladath, ofc.)
17:24.31CartasAmadeo, even I have more HP than that!
17:24.52AmadeoCartas: You're a Warrior!
17:24.57CartasYes :p
17:25.04CartasBut not many warriors have over 7000HP.
17:25.14maiato summarize what hC said regarding honor calculation: ( ?1)n (dn? ndn-1) = (?1)n-1(dn-1-(n-1)dn-2)
17:25.15AmadeoGood ones do!
17:25.53maia;p
17:25.57vhaarrOur MT has 11k with titans and buffs, I have no idea how much he has unbuffed.
17:26.04CartasSo, hyperChipmunk? Level 63, 300 mobs, weapon skill in axes and swords.
17:26.40CartasVhaarr, are you alliance or Horde?
17:26.48vhaarrBoK > you
17:26.52vhaarrAlliance.
17:26.57Cartas:(
17:27.17hyperChipmunki'd go with the +4 skill in the offhand and the widow's remorse in main
17:27.25hyperChipmunksince the +4 skill would help both
17:27.36CartasOh. I was thinking of Widow's in offhand because it's quicker?
17:27.43Amadeois it possible that ElkBuffBar could be lagging me? I noticed weird lag when I was using it last night that seemed to disappear after removing it
17:27.46hyperChipmunkeither way
17:27.48CartasAlthough I guess it doesn't matter, only the DPS matters.
17:27.53CartasOkay, hC. Thanks <3
17:27.57hyperChipmunkit's normalized
17:28.02CartasI guess the difference in dmg will hardly be noticable anyway?
17:28.09hyperChipmunkbut you'd want to make maximum effect from the +4 swords
17:28.13vhaarrNo, it matters, because your skills use the top damage of your mainhand weapon.
17:28.39vhaarrAnd weapons with slower speed typically have higher top damage than faster ones.
17:28.48haste_my god
17:28.52hyperChipmunkso two swords at skill 304 is better than a sword + axe, with 304/300 skill
17:28.54Mikmahmmmm!
17:28.54Amadeohaste_: Yes?
17:28.56haste_I forgot to take out the foodtrash yesterday
17:29.00Mikmai just had a interesting thought
17:29.11haste_picked up the bag today, and it was filled with larvas at the bottom
17:29.30haste_I just carried the box and, tossed away the bag and used the highpressure gun to clean it up
17:29.38Mikmayeah ok, nothing
17:30.00haste_that was pure nastyness
17:30.01Mikma[Ammo] did do the slashcommands into latest ocmmit, which is good :)
17:30.26Amadeohaste_: maggots are sick :P
17:30.30MikmaMvA|Slayman: and yeah, dataase version was reseted for the last time, no more needs to reset
17:30.46haste_Amadeo: yeh, and the whole fucking bottom of the foodtrash can was filled with them :<
17:30.49MvA|SlaymanMikma: k
17:31.02Mikmareseted=changed
17:31.23Amadeoyuckkk
17:31.35CartasSo, hyperChipmunk. Someone in my guild said that I should wait unitl I get a better sword that betters Widow's for DPS (Ancient Quiraji Ripper) before using Maladath, but you think it'll better EoC regardless?
17:32.05Cartasand thanks for the help, old chap! <3
17:32.09haste_Amadeo: yeh... I put the box into a bag, took it outside - tossed the foodbag inside the box into a container, and used Mr. higpressure to wash it :p
17:33.22haste_Neronix_: PCUF quote: "The mod has been recoded for performance..."
17:33.26Amadeohaha
17:33.27hyperChipmunkCartas: too many variables
17:33.34ThianaAnyone else getting a CTD from relogging/reloading with the latest buggrabber?
17:33.49CartasI know, hC, but you know everything.
17:33.54haste_Thiana: CTD?
17:34.03ThianaCrash to Desktop
17:34.08haste_oh
17:34.17FtH|eagleThiana: try deleting your saved var, that was my problem tomorrow
17:34.27hyperChipmunkgive me more information on what mob you're dealing with
17:34.30ThianaFtH|eagle, Thanks.
17:34.42hyperChipmunkyou're not asking a complete question
17:34.43haste_Cartas: so your dps now?
17:34.44hyperChipmunk>8p
17:34.49CartasNope
17:34.56CartasI asked a perfectly complete question!
17:35.27Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/cosmos.jpg
17:35.34Mikmajust a reminder for all :)
17:35.35haste_Mikma: rofl
17:35.38hyperChipmunkyou asked which is better, but that varies on circumstance
17:35.46Mikmathis is not a staged picture btw
17:35.54CartasPvE DPS!
17:36.03haste_1800KiB/s while idle :D
17:36.06Mikmathis is the real thing, cosmos + all it's addons loaded + enabled when logining the game
17:36.30Mikmagagagege
17:36.36haste_Mikma: what about thotbot heavy?
17:36.42Mikmame can type, me bungholio
17:36.50hyperChipmunkCartas: pvp encounters vary significantly, even over the course of a single fight
17:36.50Mikmahaste_: it's "off" as you can see
17:36.58haste_Mikma: yes, what happnes if you turn it on?
17:37.07Mikmadon't know, did not test :D
17:37.14haste_You didn't dare :D ?
17:37.21Mikmanope :)
17:37.24CartasOkay... against Patchwerk, hC.
17:37.24Cartas:P
17:37.34Mikmathis was more than enough for one testing
17:37.37Mikmawhat i realized?..
17:37.47haste_AL is superduper!
17:37.51ThraeMikma: How long did you wait before you took that screenshot?
17:38.03haste_Thiana: PEW PEW
17:38.09haste_d0h
17:38.11Mikmaeverytime i started to cast a spell with castbar the numbers jumped to 50KB/s and i had 0.5-1s freeze
17:38.12haste_Thrae: PEW PEW!
17:38.15haste_:-P
17:38.26MikmaThrae: this is couple of seconds after login, see the text is already fading on screen
17:38.34MikmaThrae: something like 3-4 seconds
17:38.58Mikmayeah PEW PEW lasers
17:39.12haste_Mikma: you used _that_ long time to level on a PvE server :OO ?! *runs*
17:39.17CIA-1103ag * r7322 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Defaults.lua:
17:39.17CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
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17:39.31ThraeMikma: Mmmm, try waiting 30 minutes for a better view of what Cosmos is -really- like. It could just be saving 100202237 things to the SVDB for your very first load. Also, increase your available UI memory to 128MB and see what it REALLY takes up.
17:39.36hyperChipmunkCartas: I'd estimate similar DPS, with the EoC/WR combo yielding higher bursts, and the Maladeth/WR yielding more consistent damage
17:40.03Mikmahaste_: yeah didn't have any rush then, wasn't in a "big endgame" guild, and did stand alot in IF :)
17:40.17CartasOkay, thanks.
17:40.17Thrae30 minutes is too long, 5 minutes
17:40.21ag`_Woot, I can now commit/update tortoiseSVN-style on my Mac
17:40.30CartasI thought the dmg difference would be very similar.
17:40.31haste_Mikma: hehe
17:40.31CIA-1103thiana * r7323 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/Core.lua: FuBar_tcgTradeskills: nil error fixed
17:40.33Kebinusancant you just set available uimem to 0
17:40.37MikmaThrae: yeah, but that actually requires for me to _PLAY_ with cosmos which i do NOT wan't to do :D
17:40.40haste_Mikma: I did L50 to L60 in four days :p
17:40.49ThraeKebinusan: That tries to intelligently set your threshold, yeah
17:40.51hyperChipmunkI think I played 100 days pre-60
17:40.55Mikmalike i said, the 50KB/s spikes and 0.5-1s freezes when casting ain't cool
17:41.03ThraeMikma: Nah, just wait 3-5 minutes :D
17:41.11haste_:-P
17:41.16haste_"Just waits, it gets better!"
17:41.28haste_s/its/it/
17:42.11ThraeProbably a lot of that bloat is the old "Hey, let's not use nil's as our SVDB defaults, so I need to copy 1000 items!"
17:42.32ThraeBloat on first load, that is
17:43.19KebinusanIcehud needs an option to disable unit and target frames
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17:43.46Kebinusanmake that player and target frames
17:46.22Nightdewhaste_: does the problem still occur?
17:46.35haste_I haven't tested
17:47.25Amadeodo you get AV rep even when not in a raid group?
17:51.11hyperChipmunkmaia: it's working for me =\
17:52.30haste_Argh, I hate creating buttons...
17:52.40haste_oh wait... we can inhert now?
17:53.57ag`_Yes
17:54.14haste_time to test :D
17:54.26ag`_I usually do that now, create a template in XML and then create frames as needed
17:54.29ag`_instead of doing all in lua
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18:01.27Mikmamaia: ~plaeh
18:01.47maiahuh?
18:02.09Mikmamaia: just got another idea to make the background while i was sleeping
18:02.40maiaperfect!
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18:02.45Mikmabut that means i have to create 5x12 + 2x10 frames ;)
18:02.49JoshBorkehi
18:03.02Mikmaso i think it will be a module, not builtin
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18:08.17MikmaNeronix_: fix your link in wowi :D
18:08.30MikmaNeronix_: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/latest.php? (try the mh3 blizzframe there) ;)
18:09.13Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4734-1-palaplomm.html
18:09.18Mikmabest addon evah
18:09.53maiaJoshBorke: heya. have you been in touch with shag/werehamster lately? any plans to add his latency code and AceComm to your HealSync?
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18:11.41Mikkif nothing else, you should put in ChatThrottleLib
18:11.57CIA-1103hk2717 * r7324 10BigWigs/ (30 files in 4 dirs): BigWigs: More zhCN localization to AQ20, AQ40, BWL and MC modules.
18:12.09haste_30 files :o
18:12.49Mikmado a diff on them
18:12.51ThraeCan we write to files anymore?
18:13.15haste_anymore?
18:13.20haste_have we ever been able?
18:13.42ThraeI believe back a loooong time ago, only in the addon's directory.
18:13.55ThraeAnd only then on a /reloadui
18:14.07Josh_BorkeThrae: no
18:15.09ThraeAnyway, I need someway to store possibly thousands of lines of debug code. I guess I'll just hack in a SVDB.
18:15.44Thraes/code/output/
18:15.55haste_hrmf
18:17.45MikkThrae: You'll need to hack up a very clever format. >4000 byte strings break.
18:17.49phyberuhh, Mikma, the sidebars are upside-down in bartender2? :)
18:18.00MikkOr hm.. just one table entry per string will work I suppose. Not so clever :-P
18:18.19phyberand stickyframes is gone :o
18:18.33ThraeMikk: Yeah, just 1 table entry per string, this is just for debugging ;)
18:19.05ThraeI'll need to save all uncaptured strings in my HitsMode replacement using CombLib to see if I'm missing any pattern checks.
18:21.33Mikmaphyber: aye :)
18:21.53Amadeohm
18:22.00AmadeoI think I'm gonna go to NurfedUF for a little while
18:22.06Mikmaphyber: that means button1 won't move in the bar when it's swapped :)
18:26.49phyberMikma: hmm?
18:27.04phyberso it's a bug or what? :)
18:27.10Mikmano i made it that way
18:27.20Mikmait's for the swap feature which will come ... sometime
18:27.42Mikmai wanted the BarXButton1 to stay in it's place, and move the others around it
18:36.51Arrowmasteris there a way to move the guild name line in tinytip so its the second line instead of the third?
18:37.03venhaha
18:38.17veni asked the same question few hours ago :>
18:39.42Mikmayes, edit the code :)
18:40.06Arrowmasterbut then i would have to edit it again after every update
18:40.26haste_not if you use svn
18:41.19Arrowmasterok well i dont know that much about svn, would i still even get updates?
18:42.24haste_if you edit a file localy, do a svn update, it merges the changes you have done and the latest version
18:42.27haste_if I'm not wrong
18:44.06Mikkyou're not =)
18:44.48phyberMikma: ok, i don't quite understand, but I hope I can swap them back soon :p
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18:45.58haste_FtH|eagle: do you use oRA?
18:46.05FtH|eagleyes, why?
18:46.20haste_Some guy playing with the german client saying that oRA_MainTank crashes it
18:47.00haste_http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1158.msg34428.html#msg34428
18:47.04FtH|eagleI have that module installed, never crashed for me
18:58.27phyberFritti: You need to change how errors are added to the tooltip in BugSack.
18:58.38phyberif there are tons of errors, it really fucks up.
18:59.06phyberexample, KCI just generated 100 errors for me, they all try to get added to the Tablet when you mouseover.
18:59.12phybermaybe it should just show the last 5 or 10
18:59.33phyberalso, when you "Clear All Errors", they arn't removed from the tablet and the count doesn't go back to 0
19:00.08haste_Nightdew: http://ace.pastebin.ca/122526
19:02.45Nightdewvery odd.. does the actionbar mod that you use
19:02.56haste_It's called: Default Blizzard
19:03.00Nightdewdo something funky not to return GetActionText
19:05.04haste_the reason is doesn't return GetActionText, might be 'cause the button is empty
19:05.06Arrowmasterdamnit now i know why tinytip just adds the guild name to the bottem of the tooltip... it does seem to rebuild the tooltip, just modify the lines that are already there and add to them
19:05.09haste_and I'm attempting to place my macro there
19:05.09Mikmaphyber: swap back?
19:05.30Mikmaphyber: they will not return the other way anymore
19:05.33tumetommy wow takes a very long time to start. after starting wow.exe  i've  to wait a few minites until it "realy starts". known problem? any solutions?
19:05.48Nightdewoh wait, do you have one of tekkubs addons
19:05.50Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4734-1-palaplomm.html
19:05.53Nightdewthat auto upgrades or something?
19:05.53Mikmajust look at the code
19:05.56Mikmait won't work :D
19:06.28haste_Nightdew: huh?
19:07.09Nightdewtekkub has an addon that auto update buttons when you learn a new rank or something
19:07.55haste_no, I don't use such a thing
19:08.07Nightdewokay reproduced
19:08.12Tupladomg
19:08.14Nightdewdamn i never place a button like that lol
19:08.14Tupladlern2spell it is
19:08.24haste_'like that'?
19:08.37Nightdewi always release when on top of the button to drop it
19:08.50Nightdewyou drag .. let go of button and click on the button you want it
19:09.04haste_indeed
19:09.17Nightdewit doesnt happen when you do it my way lol
19:10.02haste_uhm, not sure what the diff is
19:10.07haste_I drag, release, click
19:10.16haste_and you :p ?
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19:10.38Nightdewi keep it clicked down
19:10.47haste_but then you can't place it :p ?
19:10.47Nightdewrelease only when on top of button i want to drop it on
19:10.56Nightdewyes you can
19:10.57Nightdewtry it
19:11.11haste_it doesn't drop then
19:11.39Nightdew...
19:11.45phyberMikma: so if I want the buttons like I had them before, I have to drag them around the bar and reorganise them? bah! creating work for me ;)
19:11.46haste_:----D
19:12.00Nightdewclick .. drag .. drag it all the way to slot .. release above button
19:12.01Mikmaphyber: yeah, but it's a lessed evil, really :P
19:12.10phyberMikma: I almost hearthstoned somewhere before instead of summoning my mount :p
19:12.16Mikmaphyber: else i have to do the barpadding code again for some parts
19:12.32Nightdewslot should turn yellow outlines
19:12.52haste_the slot gets the blue hover glow
19:12.54haste_that's it
19:13.17Nightdewweird.. well i have it reproduced
19:13.23Nightdewill go fix it now
19:13.46haste_might be 'cause I play under Linux
19:15.04Nightdewdoes it not happenwhen you click on a not-empty-slot ?
19:15.13mastermike707<PROTECTED>
19:15.26haste_When you stop abusing colors on IRC
19:15.43phyberis there an event fired when a guild member comes online?
19:15.43mastermike707<PROTECTED>
19:15.59eternally777Phyber:  CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM
19:16.09Mikmaphyber: i'm sorry if you have to move your spells around :(
19:16.20phyberMikma: it's no problem ;)
19:16.27haste_down with actionbuttons!
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19:16.38phybereternally777: nothing specific to the guild though?
19:16.46Sarozhey peeps
19:16.56haste_phyber: the CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM doesn't fire often, and you can use deformat to check the string
19:17.09eternally777phyber: nope.  just gotta deformat to search for the pattern
19:17.16phyberfair enough.
19:17.25phybergoing to make Teknicolor update when guildies come online.
19:18.50hyperChipmunkdo it for people entering a battleground too
19:19.25Mikmaphyber: you see, now when you swap the bars the same padding you used in other bars (1-3) will result the same on Bar4-5 :)
19:19.43CIA-1103nightdew * r7325 10SpellStatus-1.0/SpellStatus-1.0.lua:
19:19.43CIA-11SpellStatus:
19:19.43CIA-11- Fixed issue when dragging a macro and clicking on an empty action slot
19:19.45Nightdewtry now haste_
19:19.46Mikmaphyber: otherwise you would have had to use different values on the bars
19:20.17phyberhyperChipmunk: I'll try :)
19:20.35phyberERR_FRIEND_ONLINE_SS = "|Hplayer:%s|h[%s]|h has come online."
19:20.39phyber:o
19:21.05phyberhyperChipmunk: what does it say when someone enters a battleground?
19:21.11phyberI don't go there :/
19:21.27hyperChipmunk[phyber] has entered the battle.
19:21.41hyperChipmunk[phyber] has left the battle.
19:21.42haste_Nightdew: it doesn't blow up anymore
19:22.05phyberok
19:22.28Nightdewhaste_: well thats good isnt it ;)
19:22.43Nightdewhaste__ GotWood still work?
19:22.59haste_cba to log my shaman to test it :p
19:23.07haste_I'll just be pursaded to join a raid then
19:23.35haste_hmm, that was a nasty typo
19:24.21steinohaste_: 6 shermans in raid atm
19:24.23steino!
19:24.47haste_steino: I'm still superior! :p
19:27.21CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r7326 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
19:27.21CIA-11AceTab-2.0:
19:27.21CIA-11- MenuCompletion behavior implemented. Repeatedly pressing <TAB> cycles through the valid completions.
19:27.25hyperChipmunkworship me
19:27.36haste_the wall is over there hC ---->
19:27.50Tupladlolll
19:28.15hyperChipmunkpfft
19:28.19haste_time to play with AceTab I guess
19:28.20hyperChipmunkyou totally just downloaded it
19:28.22hyperChipmunkI know
19:28.23hyperChipmunkha
19:29.01haste_no, I'm going to tho'
19:29.08haste_after this episode of .hackroots
19:29.54Elkanohmm... is .hack//roots as good as the other three?
19:30.13haste_not sure yet :p
19:30.43haste_but it's as fun to watch tho ;)
19:31.12ag`_Who asked me about the SVN plugin for Finder?
19:31.32ag`_Thiana, was you maybe?
19:31.40Elkano.hack//sign was a bit strange though I kinda liked those players in control ^^
19:32.00haste_SIGN was great ;)
19:32.12haste_roots is like sign, but with more action atm
19:32.24Mikmaag`_: i got some plugin for finder installed too
19:32.42ag`_Yes, but you can't commit with it, right?
19:32.51Elkanoand I suppose the OST is as good as the other have been :) I <3 them :)
19:32.55MikmaSCPlugin v243
19:33.00Mikmaag`_: haven't tried
19:33.02haste_Elkano: actually, it's a new artist on roots
19:33.07haste_Elkano: but the music fits very well
19:33.41Elkanowell, I like almost all anime OSTs, so I'm not that good as a judge wrt good OSTs ;)
19:34.02haste_Elkano: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObsxEPpDDCc :D
19:34.05haste_that's the ending
19:37.48Elkanohmm... reminds me of another anime, but I can't tell which one
19:37.49CIA-1103saroz * r7327 10sRaidFrames/ (sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesLocals.lua): sRaidFrames: Added /srf layout (ctra|horizontal|vertical), which allows easy setup of these predefined layouts
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19:39.03haste_Elkano: Yeh, it does.. Ali-project is quite often used in animes
19:39.28Elkanobtw: anyone tried FactionFu?
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19:39.47Sarozye
19:39.50phyberok, tekkub already made a function in Teknicolor for updating the guild roster, in the style:
19:39.53phyberGUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE = function() for i=1
19:40.06phyberhow do I trigger that?  self.GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE or something?
19:40.22phyberno point in me duplicating the stuff :)
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19:47.24hyperChipmunknotice at the bottom he registers those functions as event handlers
19:47.34hyperChipmunkthat's just the function to handle that event
19:47.45hyperChipmunkyou trigger it with the event
19:47.53hyperChipmunkrather, the game does
19:48.45eternally777How would an AceOptionsTable look for a slash command that could act as a group or text field?  eg, '/hh print' prints a message in your chat frame that only you can read, but '/hh print raid' prints a message message in the raid channel?
19:49.34vhaarreternally777: your question makes no sense to me
19:49.35phyberhyperChipmunk: I see that.  but surely there is someway to trigger that function.
19:49.57eternally777heh, I guess i'll just make it two seperate commands then
19:49.57phyberI don't care about the event firing, I just want to use the function that's already created.
19:50.19vhaarreternally777: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceConsole-2.0
19:50.50eternally777Yeah, I read that
19:51.02phyberhyperChipmunk: for example, when CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM is a guildie coming online, it will trigger the already created GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE function instead of me duplicating the code.
19:52.04phyberalso, any tips on deformatting the players coming online would be nice ;)
19:52.22phyberi get an error each time someone comes line. \o/
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19:52.43vhaarreternally777: can you rephrase your question, or tell me exactly what you want?
19:52.57vhaarr~seen ckknight
19:53.17purlckknight <i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 32m 53s ago, saying: 'let Tek or whoever deal with that'.
19:53.17eternally777vhaarr:  hmm, let me try
19:53.29vhaarr~seen ckknight_
19:53.32purlckknight_ <i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 39m 11s ago, saying: 'granted, I won't necessarily be the one closing them, is all'.
19:53.54phyberhyperChipmunk: hmm, actually it doesn't matter.  I can call "GuildRoster()", which will trigger a GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE, it seems.
19:54.17phyberand I fixed my deformat. \o/
19:56.10haste_oh hey, let's edit something here: cd \!\!\!\....
19:57.42Mikma:D
19:57.57Mikmathe loveliness of unixlinuxdarwin
19:58.11vhaarrjust tab it out, get a real shell
19:58.19eternally777vhaarr: if a player enters "/hh print" (where /hh is the slash command for my mod), my mod executes "self:Print( msg )" where ':Print()' is AceConsole's function and 'msg' is some message my mod is outputting.  BUT if a player types "/hh print raid" then my mod will execute the function "SendChatMessage( msg , "RAID" )" which outputs the same message, except into a channel rather than a frame.
19:59.01vhaarreternally777: so you want 2 different functions for the same command?
19:59.13eternally777vhaarr that about sums it up
20:00.07eternally777vhaarr, one function executes if an arg is provided ( arg = the channel name ) but if no arg is provided the other function fires.
20:02.12vhaarreternally777: what you need is a text type command with |get = false|
20:03.13eternally777OOOO
20:03.15eternally777I get it.
20:03.15eternally777ok
20:03.49vhaarreternally777: like |print = { name = "print", type = "text", desc = "Prints the given text to the console or the given channel.", usage = "", set = function(input) self:DoPrinting(text) end, get = false, }|
20:04.15vhaarrof course, you'll need magic to get the channel from |text|
20:04.39eternally777mmk
20:05.09gnorlishjust to warn any ace/ace2 addon devs
20:05.28eternally777I'll just have to search the string for a space and seperate the string into two different ones at that point, right?
20:05.40vhaarreternally777: well if the text to print can not include spaces, yes.
20:05.47gnorlishmy realm's irc chan just found out about ace, so there may be a lot of new posts asking goofy questions
20:05.49vhaarreternally777: you should specify that in |usage|
20:06.43eternally777yeah, I will
20:06.55eternally777Ty for the help
20:07.44eternally777Vhaarr, wouldn't input = true solve that problem?
20:08.29vhaarreternally777: not if your text can include spaces
20:08.34vhaarreternally777: which you have said nothing about
20:10.31eternally777ok.
20:10.34Mikmabtw, the /perfectraid health don't switch on and off in the trunk version
20:10.40vhaarreternally777: well if your text input can include spaces, |input = true| will split your text, too ..
20:12.11eternally777input won't include spaces
20:12.28vhaarrthen you use |input = true|
20:12.36eternally777Okie dokie
20:14.01eternally777What happens to the split string?  Does the variable become a table/array?
20:14.16vhaarryes
20:14.36eternally777woohoo.. I <3 tables/arrays
20:14.57Sarozhow do you convert a boolean to a string
20:15.52MikmaSaroz: :GetName() ?
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20:16.33Saroznah
20:16.47Saroztostring works
20:17.05JoshBorkebye all
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20:23.32MvA|Slaymananyone playing the enGB Client and having german questtetxs?
20:26.22Mikmanope
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20:26.47Mikmai'll rephrase that... Yes, and nope
20:26.52ckknighthey alll
20:26.54ckknightall*
20:26.56ckknightback
20:26.58Mikmahi boss
20:27.01hyperChipmunk'sup
20:28.24vhaarrckknight: wb
20:28.50vhaarrckknight: I just made a patch for http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=109
20:29.27Elkanowb ck :)
20:29.28ckknightI disagree with X-Build :-P
20:29.44ckknightsince you don't upgrade your toc every time, the revision doesn't increase
20:29.51ckknightand what's wrong with X-Version?
20:30.02vhaarrthere's an X-Version?
20:30.07ckknightyes.
20:30.20ckknight2.0.7025
20:30.26Elkanotodo list for you: 1. Tablet-2.0 width with checkboxes; 2. double reclaim with Glory-2.0 ;)
20:30.28ckknightdon't really see an issue with that
20:30.35ckknightElkano, hell.
20:30.56Elkanowhat's with my living place?
20:31.16ckknightdid you file flyspray bugs, Elkano?
20:31.24vhaarrckknight: grepping AceAddon-2.0.lua for X-Version doesn't give me anything, is it a Blizzard field?
20:31.41ckknightoh, not X-Version
20:31.42ckknightmy bad
20:31.44ckknightjust Version
20:31.47ckknightBlizzard field
20:31.47vhaarrah, yes
20:31.56MvA|SlaymanMikma: u don't believe what I'm experiencing right now, that's just too weird
20:31.59ckknight## Version: 2.0.7025
20:32.02vhaarrwell, for some reason, BigWigs doesn't have a version field in its TOC
20:32.11ckknightyea, cause kergoth gets mad
20:32.13vhaarrnot sure if that's intended from tekkub or not
20:32.19ElkanoI have to register to file new bugs, don't I?
20:32.22ckknightyes
20:32.27tekkuboreo?
20:32.30vhaarrckknight: kergoth gets mad with Version?
20:32.33ckknightyes.
20:32.36vhaarrwth
20:32.38vhaarrwhy?
20:32.47ckknighthis crazy system doesn't like it
20:32.53JensCanceled my WoW account today, so I'm returning to harrassing people on #foobar2000. Take care all, and that's for all your help.
20:33.00tekkubkerg needs to change his update script to ignore revisions and update those via SVN instead
20:33.01ckknightcya, Jens
20:33.03Jens*thanks
20:33.12ckknighttekkub, yea, I agree...
20:33.14vhaarrtekkub: so can we add a Version field to the BW2 toc?
20:33.33ckknightreally, the version field in the toc should just be the major version
20:33.33tekkub*shrug* it's pointless because we always forget to touch the TOC
20:33.42ckknightthe build version should be in the lua
20:33.45ckknighttekkub's right
20:33.46tekkubyea what ckk said
20:33.47vhaarrtekkub: people keep asking me how they check what version they have, it doesn't say in /bw about, it just says some date.
20:33.58ckknighttekkub, you should add .version
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20:34.24MvA|Slaymanwhere can we drop suggestions for AceDB or better it's usage
20:34.30tekkubI need to set BW up to get the highest rev number from it's modules and set that, but version shit is a low priority honestly
20:35.04vhaarrit shouldn't do that, I think
20:35.05ckknightMvA|Slayman, flyspray
20:35.13MvA|Slaymank
20:35.26tekkubwhy not?
20:35.36vhaarrtekkub: when someone makes 3rd party modules for BW in their own SVN that has a revision of 34156351, BW2 would suddenly use that.
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20:36.07tekkubit would happen oninit, other plugins wouldn't be loaded yet
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20:36.25vhaarrwhat if/when we split the bossmods into their own packages?
20:36.40tekkubI don't think we will
20:36.44vhaarrI think we should
20:36.48Mikkno user wants that tbh
20:36.49vhaarr:P
20:36.50tekkubwhy?
20:37.04tekkubif you don't want a zone, delete it's folder
20:37.12vhaarrI don't really need the MC bosses loaded on my main char
20:37.21Mikkhell, i'm even cursing the fact that i can't find an "zomg! enable ALL the bossmods fgs!" button
20:37.38ShyvaSounds bad imo vhaarr
20:37.48vhaarrShyva: how is that bad?
20:38.01tekkubwhy would you want them all enabled Mikk? miss using CTRA_BM?
20:38.09Mikkya =)
20:38.12Shyvait's fine the way it is, if you don't want a boss mod, delete it.. .easy?
20:38.39vhaarreasy for you, not for our 45 year old offtank
20:38.40tekkubI want to add a "enable all modules in zone" option instead of the monitoring, but again, low priority
20:38.51Mikkvhaarr: having a bunch of lua code lying around doing exactly nothing isn't harmful
20:38.53Mikmasomeone should go and do a ~butn author on the maker of FuBar_EasyPT
20:38.56Mikmaburn*
20:38.58ShyvaYeah, that would be cool tekkub
20:39.05gnorlishhow do i re-enable the fubar bw menu
20:39.08tekkubvar, I have a 45 MT/raid leader... so I can honestly say... he can go fuck himself :)
20:39.09Mikktekkub: yeah, that's what i want tbh
20:39.16vhaarrgnorlish: delete your savedvariables
20:39.22vhaarrgnorlish: and update bw2
20:39.22Mikmathe idea of PT is not to have the TARGET of the player show... the idea is to show the PLAYER ffs
20:39.30tekkub<PROTECTED>
20:39.31vhaarrtekkub: :D
20:39.37tekkubbut only if you're fu-less
20:39.48gnorlishi've been trying to stay off the cutting edge of bw, i don't need any of the new stuff and it tends to blow up on me :(
20:39.49vhaarrtekkub: I think he has the old version where the "Active" menuitem was there
20:39.53Mikkis there an "everything in the zone" there?
20:40.01Mikkand yeah i'm fu-less =)
20:40.08tekkubno mikk
20:40.26tekkubit's only targetmonitoring or one-at-a-time
20:40.29tekkubfor now
20:41.24vhaarrckknight: well anyway, close that bugreport then :P
20:41.34eternally777Channel names aren't case-sensitive, are they?
20:41.56tekkubno and they can lose their case across sessions too
20:42.06ckknighthrm
20:42.13ckknightI better make provisions for that.
20:42.19vhaarrckknight: if you want to bump my flyspray privs, I can do it myself
20:42.30tekkubyea, way back when I joined KMBHunter, now I'm in kmbhunter
20:42.38ckknightI'm not an admin, vhaarr
20:42.53vhaarrah, well I don't care, less to worry about
20:43.01tekkubvar, I can't get user groups to work
20:43.16vhaarrin flyspray?
20:43.24tekkubyes, it throws errors
20:43.33vhaarrif you had used bugzilla, I could've fixed it :P
20:43.37vhaarrI know nothing about flyspray
20:43.40tekkubwe should get kael to hit up the FS SVN :)
20:44.26tekkubso anyone figger out my thought of the day?  I didn't....
20:44.53vhaarrsvn 1.4 will be ready for production soon, I think
20:45.01CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r7328 10Teknicolor/ (8 files in 4 dirs):
20:45.01CIA-11Teknicolor:
20:45.01CIA-11- Added function to refresh guild roster when guild member comes online, no more toggling the Guild Roster to make the colours update.
20:45.02CIA-11- I'll fix the externals later.
20:45.03vhaarriirc it uses a new db format for the FS
20:45.07vhaarrI might be mistaken
20:45.15Elkanook, now they are filed to FlySpray :)
20:45.25ckknightMikk, large bug
20:46.05Mikmahmm, FuBar_EasyPT = oRA_EasyPT of course
20:46.39MikkMikk: uhoh?
20:46.45Mikker
20:46.47Mikkck =)
20:46.52ckknight;-)
20:47.13ckknightline 228
20:47.26ckknightin ChatThrottleLib
20:47.31ckknightreturn self.ORIG_SendChatMessage(text, chattype, language, destination);
20:47.46ckknightshould be return self.ORIG_SendAddonMessage(prefix, text, chattype)
20:47.46Mikk*cough*
20:47.47Mikknice catch
20:47.56CartasHi Mikk, old chap!
20:48.02Industrialbahhhhhh the Airmaster ending totally sucked >_< I spent all day watching this to get a crappy ending >_<'''
20:48.09CartasDid you find out if the script worked to make the map smaller? :O
20:48.10Mikkckknight: well.. what can I say.. i couldn't test it a lot =)
20:48.19ckknightI'm committing
20:48.25Mikkk
20:48.44Industrialhey tek I integrated teknicolor into my addon cause I couldnt get them to work together
20:48.52CIA-1103ckknight * r7329 10ChatThrottleLib/ChatThrottleLib.lua: ChatThrottleLib - fixed bug that made addon messages spam to standard chat.
20:48.59ckknightlol, indie
20:49.03ckknightmy branch or his?
20:49.29Industrialhis, but I thought what you did was uh, reindent it =P
20:49.31ckknightalso, Mikk, what's the if(WOWB_VER) then at the end?
20:49.37ckknightno, indie
20:49.40ckknightmine does other things
20:49.46Industrialckknight, idChatPlayernames
20:49.53Industrialorly lemme check it out then
20:50.05CIA-1103phyber 07phyber * r7330 10Teknicolor/Core.lua:
20:50.05CIA-11Teknicolor:
20:50.05CIA-11- Meh, someone joined the guild just as I was commiting. Guild roster now refreshes when people join your guild.
20:50.09ckknightmine gets names from chat /who's and mouseovers
20:52.18Industrialhttp://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/view/trunk/idChatPlayernames/idChatPlayernames.lua
20:52.31Mikkckknight: debugger under wowbench
20:52.40ckknightah, okay.
20:53.16Industrialhmmmm, whats deformat?
20:53.18CIA-1103ckknight * r7331 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: AceComm - updated ChatThrottleLib to version 8
20:53.20Mikmahmm i wonder.. would it be easy to do a REAL PlayerTarget for oRA
20:53.47ckknightIndustrial, I wrote it, it takes format strings a formatted text and works backwards, giving you the values
20:54.13ckknightdeformat("Durability 40 / 50", "Durability %d / %d") == 40, 50
20:55.21Industrialah thats nice
20:55.31ckknightvery optimized, btw
20:56.20tekkubdeformat is such a small amazingly useful mod
20:56.24tekkub*library
21:01.47[Ammo]hoppa
21:01.49[Ammo]Faerlina down
21:02.08[Ammo]mod was fine, although it could use an enrage bar when used preemptive
21:02.13[Ammo]but I got transcripts
21:02.17vhaarrhm
21:02.17[Ammo]so that should be fine :)
21:02.59vhaarr[Ammo]: it should have one
21:03.50vhaarrand grats on the kill :)
21:04.06FryGuygrats ammo
21:04.14FryGuyonly 7 more bosses till you learn the pain of loatheb :p
21:04.15[Ammo]vhaarr: it doesn't
21:04.18[Ammo]if you use preemptive
21:04.22[Ammo]it just gives silence bar
21:04.23[Ammo]no enrage bar
21:04.29vhaarraah
21:04.33CIA-1103id * r7332 10idChatPlayernames/: idChatPlayernames: Less lazy externals..
21:04.43vhaarrif you preempt at <30sec to enrage, yes
21:04.44Kebinusanloatheb doesnt look fun
21:04.46vhaarrthen you will not get it
21:04.53tumetomis there a way to remove the ace debug messages? (clique,plowking, etc.)?
21:05.26Industrialtumetom, by using release versions from an addon site that dont have them :P
21:06.20tumetomk.. no way :-P
21:06.21CIA-1103id * r7333 10idChatPlayernames/idChatPlayernames.toc: idChatPlayernames: Updated toc
21:06.36[Ammo]vhaarr: we preempted at 5 seconds to enrage
21:06.46vhaarr[Ammo]: yes, gotcha
21:07.18vhaarr[Ammo]: should the enrage then happen after 65sec?
21:07.45ckknighttekkub, btw, I changed the way menus are handled in FBP-2.0
21:07.50vhaarrthat is |timeRemaining + enrageTime|
21:07.56tekkubyea I saw, work better now?
21:07.58FryGuyhttp://www.burntpopcorn.net/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_080706_194932.jpg
21:08.01vhaarr[Ammo]: or should it happen 60sec after preempt?
21:08.02FryGuyhttp://www.burntpopcorn.net/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_080706_221053.jpg
21:08.10FryGuyyou're right.. loatheb isn't fun :p
21:08.59vhaarrFryGuy: how is the loatheb module? I think I made some changes to it a few days ago
21:09.01CIA-1103tain * r7334 10VisorButtons/ (6 files):
21:09.02CIA-11VisorButtons - Buttons are now created dynamically in Lua from an XML template. VisorActionButtons that are saved in the VisorDB will be created automatically on login.
21:09.02CIA-11New buttons can be created with the command: /vz button xxx - where xx is button ID. i.e. /vz button 100 will create VisorActionButton100.
21:09.02CIA-11Cleaned up keybindings hide/show code. Should no longer show different font types on different buttons with font addons.
21:09.06vhaarrand I haven't tested it myself :P
21:09.08FryGuyheh
21:09.12ckknighttekkub, more streamlined, makes more sense, but Bigwigs may be fucked up
21:09.12FryGuyi think i undid one of them
21:09.20vhaarrokay
21:09.20tekkubkek
21:09.31tekkubbeen considering just making core the FBPlugin
21:09.39Saroz"fatheroftime"?
21:09.39ckknightthat'll work
21:09.40Sarozwow
21:10.26FryGuy?
21:11.46Hakkeruhm ckknight when will your plugins go to fubar 2 compatible? that would prolly save some errors here in bugsack ;)
21:11.52CIA-1103id * r7335 10idChatPlayernames/idChatPlayernames.toc: idChatPlayernames: And now the real updated toc
21:11.55Industrial-_-
21:12.08vhaarrFryGuy: what did you remove?
21:12.11ckknightHakker, ?
21:12.12tekkubI get no errors from ckk's plugins...
21:12.41HakkerI collected about 123 in 4 hours while they kept working
21:12.52vhaarrI get no errors, either.
21:13.00FryGuyer wait it was the gothik one
21:13.13FryGuyyou are rabbit on svn?
21:13.15vhaarrFryGuy: yes
21:13.30vhaarroh
21:13.31vhaarr"BigWigs: Fix gothik bug that rabbit reintroduced."
21:13.32FryGuyyou messed up the gothik one if it doesn't reset
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21:13.44ckknightHakker, you have FuBar-compat-1.2?
21:13.47Mikk~deformat
21:13.49purlhmm... deformat is a WoW addon library for extracting information from (localized) messages, e.g. deformat("Durability 40 / 50", "Durability %d / %d") == 40, 50
21:13.52vhaarrFryGuy: aah, yes, I wasn't sure about that change
21:13.55tekkubwhy can't people be consistant with their goddamn usernames
21:13.56vhaarrFryGuy: thanks for cleaning my trail
21:14.02FryGuybut the 5m timer worked fine
21:14.07vhaarrcool
21:14.16FryGuyI would just call it an enrage though instead of being so complicated :p
21:14.16vhaarrwe haven't tried gothik either, yet
21:14.23vhaarrhehe
21:16.07Hakkerwell atleast the 1.2 compatibility mode generates errors here but then again I use alot of fubar plugins ;)
21:16.23Hakkerso it's kinda hard to filter everything atm
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21:17.37vhaarrFryGuy: ah, you mean the Inevitable Doom timerchange on Loatheb?
21:17.50Nightdewhaste_: did that fix it btw?
21:17.52vhaarrFryGuy: where I say "Inevitable Doom timerchange in %s seconds!"
21:18.03vhaarryeah, guess that could just be "Enrage"
21:18.06vhaarroh well
21:18.09haste_Nightdew: I replied to you that it stopped exploding ;)
21:18.29Nightdewhaste_: right.. *sighs* needs a work and family break
21:18.42Nightdewhaste_: sorry heh
21:18.47FISKER_Qhah Neronix_
21:18.48haste_no problem ;)
21:18.49FISKER_Qhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3498.jpg
21:18.52FISKER_Qshould've rounded it down to 1337
21:21.48Tuplad:D
21:22.01Tupladis there something that hits for 1 dmg then ? ;p
21:23.19[Ammo]vhaarr: sorry for not responding, fighting trash to Maexxna :)
21:23.28[Ammo]vhaarr: anyway I will have to check my transcript for the enrage timings
21:23.33vhaarr[Ammo]: hehe, no wories :)
21:23.38vhaarr[Ammo]: okay
21:24.25ag`what string.format should I use to get for example 12482 -> 12.5k
21:24.37ag`I'm bad at that stuff :P
21:25.02ckknightstring.format("%.1fk", 12482 / 1000)
21:25.18ag`Thanks ckknight, always to the rescue
21:26.54FISKER_Qyeah Tuplad a unarmed level 1
21:30.56Nightdewcan you see the exact HP of a party members pet?
21:31.02Nightdewwith UnitHealth
21:31.44CIA-1103rabbit * r7336 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Thaddius.lua: BigWigs: Thaddius: Added warning that Thaddius is incoming soon.
21:32.23haste_I'm going to regret this, but does http://plixx.org/?7g look okey?
21:32.36vhaarr[Ammo]: from what I can see, the enrage should happen 30 seconds after a preemptive silence.
21:32.43vhaarrbrb
21:33.16haste_Nightdew: after what I know - yes
21:33.25Nightdewk kewl
21:34.01Tupladhaste_: you sure are going to regret it :D
21:34.05Tupladhaste_: that's porn, give!
21:34.41haste_Tuplad: Have fun waiting ;)
21:35.07Tupladblah
21:35.17ag`_Holy shit haste_, does that stuff work yet?
21:35.27haste_ag`_: It shows whispers you get, but that's about it
21:35.42Tupladhaste is gonna keep all the pimpness for himself, we're not gonna allow that, right ? ;(
21:36.17Tupladhaste_: poker in game ?
21:36.21haste_Tuplad: yes
21:36.32Tupladgive!
21:36.33haste_usually play it during raids
21:37.53ag`_haste_: do you plan to make a minimize/close button and make the frame resizable? :P
21:38.07haste_ag`_: yes, I do :p
21:38.15ag`_great I must say :p
21:38.31haste_I also plan on a way to kill tabs, but that's on the long run
21:38.56Tupladrelease date ?
21:39.05Mikmahaste_: is the idea of that picture the poker or the whisper-thingy?
21:39.12TupladMikma: both
21:39.15Tupladhaste_: give poker.
21:39.18haste_Mikma: mostly whisper :p
21:39.24Mikmahaste_: and, where's the addon you were planning last night? :)
21:39.26haste_Tuplad: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4587-1-anzac-holdem.html
21:39.33haste_Mikma: huh?
21:39.41haste_I have lots of plans :p
21:39.42Tuplado, it's on CG >_< my bad
21:40.01Tupladhaste_: multi player ?
21:40.05Tupladhaste_: can you like, play for money ?
21:40.32Tupladhaste_: for gold I mean
21:41.22haste_Tuplad: Shut your piehole and points your eyes towards the description of the addon
21:41.27Mikmahaste_: the life and mana-alert
21:41.39haste_Mikma: ah, I didn't plan on using the frames for that ;)
21:41.45Tupladhaste_: xD, I am
21:41.55Mikmahaste_: oooh, for what then? :)
21:42.07haste_Mikma: hi-mi-tsu!
21:42.25Mikmahuh?
21:42.26Tupladhaste_: "* Don't play for real gold, theres too many bugs, and people can/will cheat" is all he says about gold :(
21:42.28haste_Mikma: well, not really... a nightfall addon for my warlock, with support for vapirism
21:42.37haste_Tuplad: ............
21:43.07haste_Mikma: himitsu is secret in japanese :p
21:43.17Tupladhaste_: I was hoping that I could play for gold so those nifty fuckers from guild can finally pay me back
21:43.28Mikmahaste_: ok, it's "salaisuus" in Finnish
21:43.37[Ammo]Maexxna is the best looking boss ever ;)
21:43.41haste_now that's one heck of a word Mikma :p
21:43.41[Ammo]now to wipe :)
21:43.53tekkub*yawn*
21:43.56tekkubwhat to do...
21:44.08Tupladtekkub: make a chess game where you can play for gold
21:44.15tekkubmeh
21:44.21Tupladtekkub: so when someone loses in the end, the other gets the gold :D
21:44.49MikmaTuplad: yeah and get your account banned faster than you can tell gm that you've been hacked
21:45.04Tupladwhy is that, Mikky ?
21:45.13Mikmayou really don't know?
21:45.22Tupladno idea :\
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21:46.04ckknighthey
21:46.13ckknightI have to leave in 30, apparently
21:46.18ckknightnot right yet
21:46.28Tuplad:o
21:46.35ckknightstop CTCP TIME'ing me
21:46.38Tuplad:D
21:46.56Mikmashould we spoil it to tuplad or let him do the browsing
21:47.06Tupladspoil it spoil it !
21:47.33TupladMikma: I still have no idea what could happen with that sort of addon ;/
21:47.55Nightdewwith UnitHealth.. do you get percentage or actually value back for Raid Member PETS
21:48.13CIA-1103ag * r7337 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
21:48.13CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
21:48.13CIA-11<PROTECTED>
21:48.13CIA-11<PROTECTED>
21:48.43Mikmaag`_: goodie!!! that's neat one
21:49.00ag`yeah I thought so
21:49.04ag`anyway it needs testing ^_^
21:49.21ag`commits without testing is what I do best
21:50.04Gngsk:o
21:50.42Tuplad"Getting an odd bug with mobhealth3 and Discord Unitframes, it's causing Discord to toss up errors. Mobhealth2 works fine though, not sure what the issue is."
21:50.43Tupladlol
21:50.50GngskI just read that
21:51.03haste_noes! MH3 eat babies again?
21:51.07Tuplad:D
21:51.17TupladI wonder if lozareth will implent MH3 support
21:51.36Tuplad~lozareth
21:51.38purlA man who stole your FPS and Memory aka The Boogyman of http://www.discordmods.com/ - "I got mem so why not use it"
21:53.41vhaarrtekkub: mind me adding my nick to the BW TOC? Not sure how much I need to actually do before that should happen, since it just says "& Others".
21:53.43vhaarrshameless plug ftw
21:53.50Tupladhttp://www.discordmods.com/DiscordUnitFrames/CustomLayouts/LARDSHUNTERUI.jpg lol, his unit frames take half of his screen :\
21:54.04tekkub*shrug* what did you do?
21:54.40vhaarrjust some bossmod tweaking, really, I tried patching some other things but [Ammo] just said "nah I'll make another patch for it that is better in a little while" and then he fixes it :P
21:55.11MikmaTuplad: http://pc.ign.com/articles/588/588964p1.html
21:55.28MikmaTuplad: or www.google.com -> blizzard world of warcraft gambling
21:55.28TupladMikma: what the hell, never seen that before
21:56.06CIA-1103tain * r7338 10VisorButtons/ (VisorButtons.lua VisorButtons.xml VisorScript.lua):
21:56.06CIA-11VisorButtons - Changed keybind hide/show to use Blizzard functions natively.
21:56.06CIA-11Fixed bug with keybinds disappearing after swapping buttons.
21:56.23tumetomhm shouldn't mh3 show the mobhealth?
21:56.47TupladMikma: omg, they basically say that /roll'ing for money is forbidden, GG
21:56.54tekkub:P I dunno, ask ammo really, he does most the boss mods
21:56.56Mikmayes
21:57.00vhaarrtekkub: sure
21:57.08tumetommh3 shows nothing for me :(
21:57.28Tupladhaste_: could I have the screenie for your chat art again ?
21:57.44haste_Tuplad: backlog
21:58.04tekkubckk, question
21:58.30tekkubif you call GetReverseTranslation when you're in the default locale does it work anyway?
22:00.06Tupladhaste_: um, where did you post the code for it ? cant find it on forums :x
22:00.38tumetomNeronix any idea why mh3 does not realy work?
22:01.38haste_Tuplad: the UI thread
22:02.32Tupladhaste_: aha, got it
22:05.29Mikmahaha jin'do owns
22:05.36Mikmahe kept hitting a dead guy
22:05.48Mikmahe had been dead for few mins and the boss keps hitting :D
22:05.49Neronixtumetom: Are you using a unit frame mod?
22:05.55Neronixor blizzard's default frames?
22:06.08NeronixIf using the defaults, you need to download "MobHealth3_BlizzardFrames"
22:07.29Neronixin other news, 90something favourites and 1.4k d/ls across UI.wow and wowi
22:07.30Tupladhmm, viewport actually increases your fps in crowded places
22:07.34Neronixand curse have only just accepted it
22:08.40Mikma<0107> <AnduinLothar> http://www.wowwiki.com/Telepathy  ... why do I wan't to paste the cosmos.jpg again
22:08.50Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/cosmos.jpg
22:09.30Tupladwhat the shit :|
22:09.56Sarozwtf`?
22:10.31TupladMikma: first aid fan arent ya ?
22:10.48Sarozwhy the fuck is cosmos always bloating things up?
22:12.19TupladSaroz: because it's Cosmos ?
22:12.36Sarozit's like their mission in WoW, take simple stuff and make it bloated
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22:13.13MikmaTuplad: no, that's just first button in spellbook to catch my attention
22:13.28MikmaTuplad: i need to have bars full when i'm coding :P
22:14.11Tupladaah =)
22:15.42Tupladhttp://plixx.org/?7I how do they seperate buffs from debuffs?
22:15.47Tupladthere's a little space between
22:16.22MikmaElkano's Buff-frame?
22:16.52Tupladcomprehensive reading Mikma
22:18.05Neronixtumetom: ping
22:20.04Tupladhaste_: could you by any chance tell me the size of "Interface\\AddOns\\otravi_BottomUI\\textures\\ChatFrameTab" ?
22:20.43haste_same as the default ChatFrameTab, go check it out
22:21.12Tuplad:X
22:21.58Tupladhaste_: Your search - ChatFrameTab - did not match any documents.
22:22.28NeronixTuplad: l2grep
22:23.09haste_Learn2Extract interface.mpq and do a grep
22:23.30Tuplad~wtf grep
22:23.42Tuplad~dict grep
22:24.08Tupladhmmm
22:24.23Neronixbasically, grep == uber search
22:24.36Tupladsomeone told me that extracting wasnt possible anymore
22:24.44NeronixIt is
22:25.20Tupladwhat you mean it is ? possible or not ?
22:25.23Neronixpossible
22:25.44Tupladoh ok
22:26.00tekkubso noone can explain to me what "Don't dry with fakes or fears" means eh?
22:26.38Tuplad:\
22:26.45NeronixThrae: Does TinyTip support mobhealth? I got a feature request/bug report from someone who said MH2 worked with it, yet I can't find any mobhealth text in TTExtras
22:26.59haste_tekkub: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2120659111755287021 << make sense of that!
22:27.36tekkubI like listening to bad engrish in japaneese song
22:27.41tekkub"Never farring down"
22:27.51Tupladrooooooooooofl @ haste_
22:28.37Tupladnhnhnhnhhnhmnhmhnmhnmhnh chacaron nhnhnhnhhnhmnhmhnmhnmhnh
22:29.50Cairennunh ... w.t.f. ... rofl
22:30.22TupladCairenn: check that video out :p
22:30.29Cairennthat's what I'm talking about ...
22:30.46Cairennlol
22:30.49tekkubthat's what happens to breeder males when too many jiggle female buts are around
22:30.53tekkub*butts
22:30.54Sarozis there an Ace'd combat log mod?
22:30.59Cairennlol tekkub
22:31.01tekkub*jiggley
22:31.34Cairennthe ladies in the video *are* fine
22:32.23Tupladhttp://twebm.online.fr/alexandra/homepage.html -> best UI ... ever
22:32.35tekkubis that carlos mencia?
22:32.43tekkubif so it makes plenty of sense then
22:33.17NeronixCairenn: Only just got your pms
22:33.28Cairennnp, just ignore them anyway
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22:33.37Cairennwas weird
22:33.42Neronixmight've been caused by how I somehow got into my mod's info page before approval
22:33.58Neronixand uploaded BlizzardFrames as an addon to MH3
22:34.29Cairenndunno what it was, but it was reported to me so I sent the message, then a few minutes later all was fine
22:34.42Cairennbtw, you really need to come hang out in the lounge :p
22:35.27Mikkaye, you get educated on the finer points of 3-phase power transmission and everything :-P
22:36.54NeronixRight, time to see what's up with DUF *shudder*
22:38.20Tupladugh, good luck Neronix
22:39.24Neronixfs, The Non Gospel of Memory Usage says 1737kb with default config
22:40.10Tupladmmmm, whale :)
22:40.17Neronixhm, it works for me
22:40.32Tupladno Neronix
22:40.37Tupladyou gotta do some like $mobhp
22:40.38Tupladin target frae
22:40.47Neronixah
22:41.02Mikmahaste_: i can make sense of that, the guys retarded
22:41.07TupladNeronix: check vars
22:41.21haste_Mikma: then what about the middle piece :p ?
22:42.06Mikmahaste_: that's not the guy talking
22:42.12Mikmait's completely different person
22:42.13haste_you never know!
22:42.15haste_:F
22:42.31Mikmathat's true
22:44.59CIA-1103rabbit * r7339 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Faerlina.lua: BigWigs: Faerlina: ((nil + 30) > GetTime()) doesn't really work, I think - fixed.
22:46.24Mikmafunction(msg, sender) Sea.io.printComma("TelepathyTester1: ", msg, sender) end
22:46.27Mikmathis is..
22:46.34Mikmaplease fill the sentence
22:46.58CIA-1103mikk * r7340 10ChatThrottleLib/ (ChatThrottleLib.lua ChatThrottleLib.toc README.txt):
22:46.58CIA-11ChatThrottleLib:
22:46.58CIA-11* Use string.format() for string concatenation
22:46.58CIA-11* Up to version 9 - pushing to wowi.
22:47.27NeronixTuplad: The vars I think I'm looking for are $hc and $hm
22:47.34Neronixthey're the default, and they work perfectly fine
22:48.31Tupladwell, kay then =)
22:49.01NeronixI'll poke about in the code and see what it does
22:51.20Neronixhmm, I might've fucked up the MobHealth_PPP() compat...
22:51.28Mikmahuzah
22:58.50CIA-1103rabbit * r7341 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua: BigWigs: Razuvious: Attempt to fix shout timer after the first shout.
22:59.28MvA|Slaymanis there an ace'd inspect addon on the SVN? can'T judge by name
22:59.52Tupladno
22:59.57TupladInspectorAce maybe
23:00.49TupladSuperInspect > all, too bad they nerfed it:(
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23:03.00Syzxtekkub: do you hate gnomes? ^^
23:03.06tekkubyes
23:03.16Syzx:(
23:03.16tekkubthey remind me of Taru Taru
23:03.18CIA-1103neronix * r7342 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua: MobHealth3 - Fixed MobHealth_PPP() compat. DUF should now work *shudder*
23:03.20tekkubfucking tarus
23:03.46TupladI like gnomes
23:03.46tekkubI want the expansion so I can be a galka again!
23:03.49Tupladthey're so cute
23:04.04SyzxI like gnomes too, but MountMe wont mount my gnome :(
23:04.10TupladI'd roll a gnome or a nelf anyday just to annoy hordies since they hate it soo much :d
23:04.16tekkubthe only thing cute about gnomes is the squeal they make when a tauren steps on them
23:04.19Tupladthe funniest shit ever is kiting rogues with frostbolt rank 1
23:04.35Tupladtekkub: been ganked by gnomes lately ? /soothe
23:04.42tekkubI don't PvP
23:04.46CIA-1103rabbit * r7343 10idChatPlayernames/idChatPlayernames.toc: idChatPlayerNames: Add Ace2 as OptionalDeps.
23:04.47Tupladhm, ok
23:04.53tekkuband my main is ally
23:05.13TupladI went on test server today, got on my mage, put frostbolt rank 1 on it, went from elemental to full frost and kited warriors outside gurubashi arena, they went mental
23:05.21Mikmackknight: now i know what your uberaddon RPS needs.. Scoreboard!
23:05.41Syzxtekkub: any idea why it wouldnt mount my gnome? :)
23:05.47tekkubthat makes no sense, how can you know their feelings if you can't communicate with them...
23:06.08tekkubuhm... no... in the process of converting it to Ace2 anyway
23:06.12Mikmaif MEWIN then win + 1 end
23:06.18tekkubI need to finish that now that you mention it
23:06.31Tupladtekkub: I dont need to know them, 3 lines of insults in caps is enough, I guess
23:06.45Syzxinsults Tuplad?
23:06.46Tupladand the continous /spit /insult spamming
23:06.50Mikmagod damn Mikk, he's afk and he's still winning 2-1 and 1 tie
23:07.02tekkubah yes, forget emotes, I don't see spits, ever
23:07.12Tuplad:< oh come one
23:07.16Tupladcome on*
23:07.23Tupladspit is the best emote in game, I mean, free shower !
23:07.25Syzxdid you see that one?
23:07.25tekkubit's a completely useless emote
23:07.32tekkubI don't shower
23:07.39Tuplad>_>
23:07.42CIA-1103rabbit * r7344 10GMail/GMail.toc: GMail: Add Ace2 as OptionalDeps.
23:07.44tekkubI much prefer being licked clean
23:07.47Tupladtaurens ...
23:07.54tekkubI'm a dorf
23:07.57Tupladsame shit
23:08.00Tupladboth hairy and both stink
23:08.03tekkubbut I do like taurens....
23:08.09Tupladtaurens are fun to gank :)
23:08.16tekkubI milk tauren
23:08.18Tupladthe way they die is just lol
23:08.19tekkubonly males
23:08.38Mikmatekkub: lol was just typing "cow or bu.." then i erased it since you were faster
23:09.07MikmaTuplad: nelfdeath is the most annoying death in the game
23:09.09tekkub^^
23:09.26tekkubit's too strung out
23:09.37tekkubI liked how galka died, the funky limp tail
23:09.38CIA-1103rabbit * r7345 10ImprovedRWF/ImprovedRWF.toc: ImprovedRWF: Add missing OptionalDeps.
23:09.42Mikma"OH MI GAWD! I got HIT and now I must enter the gates of heaven! AAAARRRGGGHHH!!!"
23:09.57MikkMikma: muahaha
23:09.59ag`_http://www.killernic.com/KillerNic/
23:10.02MikmaMikk: 2-1, 4 ties
23:10.06tekkubMik... I have a good comic for you... if I could only remember the name
23:10.16tekkubit's a WoW one... very badly drawn
23:10.20MikkMikma: err.. my client is saying that you threw nil
23:10.30Mikmaadventures of loltroll? :P
23:10.36TupladMikmaTuplad: nelfdeath is the most annoying death in the game: lies!?
23:10.38Tupladlies*
23:10.51CIA-1103rabbit * r7346 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: Add DewdropLib to OptionalDeps.
23:10.54MikmaMikk: nil? that's interesting
23:11.04TupladMikma: the way trolls die are gay
23:11.15Tupladis*
23:11.15Mikmaoh crap, Mikk won 3-1
23:11.21MikmaTuplad: that's hilarious
23:11.35Mikmahow they go into the position they do
23:11.41Mikmareminds me of babies
23:11.53Tuplad---
23:11.54Mikk"Other player threw back nil"
23:11.56Mikmatekkub: the adventures of dork and loltroll .. now i remembered
23:12.02tekkubugh, what was that comic called
23:12.08MikmaMikk: update RPS + ace2?
23:12.19MikmaMikk: i had to update my Ace2 (standalone) to get RPS working again
23:12.24tekkubno it's like a raiding guild comic, ally, very VERY badly drawn but funny
23:12.41MikkMikma: just did
23:12.42Mikmahmm then i think that i haven't seen it
23:12.44Tupladwtf happened to deviantart?
23:12.45tekkubI just remeber the rogue "I'm winning at threat meters!"
23:12.53MikmaMikk: LOL! they threw nil
23:13.02CIA-1103neronix * r7347 10MobHealth/MobHealth.toc: MobHealth3 - Updated metadata for 3.0.1 release
23:13.03Mikkehmm
23:13.18Mikmanow that you updated too it's fooekd in both ways :D
23:13.22Mikkyep
23:13.33Mikmait must be something ckknight has changed in AceComm
23:13.57Mikki was almost going to say it might have been me with my ctl update but i realized i was already at the latest version
23:14.11Mikmahmm
23:14.19Mikmaand ace2 has acecomm + ctl in it, right?
23:14.45Mikkyes
23:14.47Mikkwell
23:14.53CIA-1103rabbit * r7348 10Soap/Soap.toc: Soap: Added missing OptionalDeps.
23:14.55Mikkyou never have "ace2" now
23:14.58Mikkyou have whatever your mod includes
23:15.12MikmaMikk: false, i have Ace2 libraries loaded aswell :D
23:15.16Mikko.O
23:15.17Mikkwhy?
23:15.33Mikmabecause i don't keep the libraries with bartender2
23:15.47Mikmai let the Ace2 load the libraries and Bartender2 can use them then
23:15.52Mikker that's bad
23:15.55Mikma(this is just my coding ui)
23:16.07Mikkoh, you _distribute_ with ace2 embedded?
23:16.10Mikmai DON'T play with ace2 "loaded"
23:16.30Mikklike me actually loading CTL as an addon
23:16.46Mikmai let the externals on svn to take care of the libraries for Bartender2
23:17.12CIA-1103rabbit * r7349 10Squishy/Squishy.toc: Squishy: Add missing OptionalDeps and fix Compost -> CompostLib.
23:17.14Mikmaand that's the reason too why i need to have the libraries loaded because i don't have them on Bartender2 in my end :)
23:17.47Mikmabut with the normal ui i use.. i let the other addons to load the libraries i need ;)
23:18.01MikmaBTW, TinyPad 1.3 is messed up
23:18.05Mikmadon't use it :(
23:18.16MikmaTinyPad Tainted 1.1 works like a charm
23:18.51Codayus?
23:18.53CodayusIn what way?
23:19.09Mikmahmm this may be hard for me to explain but i'll still try
23:19.23Mikmawhen i installed it and did a new script:
23:19.24CIA-1103rabbit * r7350 10XRS/XRS.toc: XRS: Added missing OptionalDeps.
23:19.44Mikmafor i=1,12 do getglobal("ActionButton"..i):Hide() end ... it did nothing
23:20.09Mikmabut when i either ran it again/changed page and came back to it i got a errormessage about for
23:20.34Codayushm
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23:20.56Mikmai'll paste some lines from private..
23:21.04Mikma<1350> [freenode] <FtH|Eagle> one question: How can I run the script directly without changing the pages first?
23:21.07Mikma<1350> [freenode] <FtH|Eagle> It's always executing the script entered before
23:21.14CIA-1103rabbit * r7351 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.toc: AuldLangSyne: Add OptionalDeps.
23:21.17Mikmathats the problem i have too
23:21.26CodayusInteresting, I seem to be running....  1.1
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23:21.32CodayusI didn't know there WAS a 1.3
23:21.34MikmaCodayus: yeah, tainted 1.1? :)
23:21.38CodayusWhat's tainted?
23:21.43Mikmacan you use /tinypad number ?
23:21.50CodayusDon't think so.
23:21.58Mikmawell, try it hehe
23:22.00CodayusWow, I feel so outdated.   *cry*
23:22.07haste_Mikma: run scripts doesn't work on 1.3 :(
23:22.12CodayusI seem to be using Gello's 1.1
23:22.20CodayusWhat is 1.3 supposed to do?
23:22.25CIA-1103rabbit * r7352 10FreeRefills/FreeRefills.toc: FreeRefills: Add OptionalDeps.
23:22.30tekkub*whine*
23:22.34Mikmatainted has the feature of /tinytip 1  to run the scripts without opening the tinypad
23:22.38tekkubwhat the fuck was the comic site, it was funny
23:22.39Codayus1.1 always worked, so I never realized there was an update.
23:22.50MikmaCodayus: don't update :P it's busted really
23:22.58CodayusSounds useful....
23:23.01Mikma<1351> [freenode] <:msg: FtH|Eagle> oh just a sec
23:23.01Mikma<1351> [freenode] <:msg: FtH|Eagle> are you using the Tinypad 1.3 ?
23:23.08Mikma<1351> [freenode] <FtH|Eagle> latest
23:23.18CodayusI won't...just curious what 1.3 was SUPPOSED to do.
23:23.21Mikma(then i told him to download tainted 1.1
23:23.29Mikma<1356> [freenode] <FtH|Eagle> yeah, that works :)
23:23.30CodayusOh, an undo button.
23:23.38Mikmathere's couple on nice features in 1.3
23:23.44TupladDo you have to click a button for DeclineGroup() ?
23:23.46Mikmabut the whole addons hould work first :D
23:23.46CodayusAnd 1.2 had a search...
23:23.55vhaarrmaia: could you add a .toc to RosterLib?
23:23.59CodayusMeh, I'll grab tained.
23:24.06Mikmaoh yeah
23:24.14Mikma1.3 has also ability to change fonts!
23:24.22Mikmait's pretty nice i must admit
23:24.31maiavhaarr: why does a library need a .toc?
23:25.02vhaarrmaia: so that you can check it out as an addon and refer it in OptionalDeps in addons that use it instead of using SVN externals
23:25.12maiaoh
23:25.23vhaarrsince they're so freaking slow
23:25.36maiayeah, I'll do that whenever I have a spare moment. But if you want to do it right now, go ahead :)
23:25.38tekkubhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/images/comics/comics34-large.jpg
23:25.40tekkubhehe
23:25.46vhaarrmaia: the "traditional" ace2 libs all have tocs, you can look at them
23:25.51vhaarrmaia: oh, cool
23:25.55vhaarrmaybe I will
23:25.58Nightdew... isnt that somewhat defeating the purpose though vhaarr?
23:26.04vhaarrNightdew: no?
23:26.07Mikmatekkub: lol
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23:26.55CodayusNightdew:  Not really, I don't think.  The embeddability of libraries is only one of many features they offer...and not neccesarilly appropriate in all situations.
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23:27.28Nightdewusing ace2 libs as addons doesnt seem like the idea behind ace2
23:27.47Nightdewother than perhaps a quick fix for debugging
23:28.01Codayus<shrug>
23:28.26tekkub"Sapped Girls Don't Say No"
23:28.26NightdewCorrect me if i am wrong.. but one the specific reasons behind ace2 was loosing the dependency on addons
23:28.36Nightdewand give single stand alone packages
23:28.47NightdewAt least thats how i understood it
23:28.49CodayusThe ability to embed seems more like a nifty but incidental feature.  People didn't like having Ace as a dependency, so voila, you don't need a dependency anymore...
23:29.03Nightdewincidental?
23:29.06Codayus*nod*
23:29.56Nightdewckknight: wanne set me straight?
23:30.00CodayusDepends how much dependencies bug you, I suppose...
23:30.01vhaarrNightdew: maybe you should read what I said agian.
23:30.07vhaarr*again
23:30.34MikmaMikk: hey, you can poke ckknight about the RPS "they threw nil" ;)
23:30.54Nightdewvhaarr: and?
23:31.23vhaarrNightdew: clearly you didn't read it again like I asked you to.
23:31.37vhaarrNightdew: I could explain, but it would only repeat what I just told maia.
23:32.38Nightdewgreat another one here who loves to talk down to people
23:32.50NightdewI read what you said, and I already responded to it
23:33.07vhaarrNightdew: note the keywords "OptionalDeps", "SVN externals" and "slow".
23:33.12Nightdewwith what i thought to be one of the goals behind ace2
23:35.00NightdewWhat i was trying to get across if you start down that path, what is a "hack" at first soon becomes practice because the fact that it was a hack around inconvenience becomes lost
23:35.13vhaarrThere are no hacks here.
23:35.55NightdewSo Ace2 is going to be distributed as an addon package that people can reference
23:36.05Nightdewbecause if that isnt the norm, i call that a hack
23:36.06vhaarrI didn't say that.
23:37.20CodayusNightdew: You can embed Ace2 or not...both work.  Neither is a hack...
23:37.43vhaarrIt's not about hacks at all, people, it's about making it convenient to deal with as a programmer.
23:38.01vhaarrWhich the keywords "OptionalDeps", "SVN externals" and "slow" would suggest.
23:39.45cladhaireWait
23:39.51cladhaireWhat is the discussion?
23:39.55cladhairecause i smell a lot of bullshit at the moment =)
23:40.00vhaarrThere's no discussion :)
23:40.49cladhairehrm
23:40.51Nightdewcladhaire: I seem to have misunderstood some of the goals of Ace2
23:40.54Nightdewthats all
23:40.57vhaarrNo?
23:41.14CodayusNightdew: I don't think anyone said that wasn't a goal.
23:41.31CodayusAnother goal was, if memory serves, profile management that didn't suck.
23:41.39vhaarrNightdew: Clearly you are just ignoring me, even though you are confused by something I said originally.
23:41.47vhaarrNightdew: What is it that is not clear?
23:41.50CodayusBut if an addon decides to handle it itself, it's not a betrayal of principle...
23:42.22NightdewI am not ignoring you at all, you are using the libs in a different way due to slowness and inconvenience
23:42.35Nightdewthe lib architecture allows you to work that way just fine
23:42.40Nightdewand it solves your immediate need
23:42.43vhaarrYes, so what is the problem, then?
23:42.54NightdewMy point is that YOU know that it is why you are doing it..
23:43.08Nightdewbut those that might not be so proficient and understanding of the principles
23:43.10Nightdewwill read of example
23:43.19vhaarrThey will never see it, because they are not in this channel.
23:43.28Nightdewand go down a path where in the end we'd rather not see Ace2-ed addons go
23:43.46vhaarrI think that's bullshit, so cladhaire was right.
23:43.56CodayusNightdew: ...what's wrong with non-embedding ace2 if you don't want to, anyhow?
23:44.03cladhaireAce2 was meant to be a set of embedded libraries, that provide a solid framework for addon development.  Each library is able to upgrade itself between instances, and negotiate details, while having major versino differences all work at the same time.  Ace2 addons are NOT meant to be distributed with the libraries as a seperate dependant addon.
23:44.06Nightdewso all i did was calling what you did  a hack.. as a temporary solution
23:44.23vhaarrIt's not a temporary solution at all, it's a permanent one.
23:44.25cladhairethose are the goals of ace.
23:44.32Nightdewokay
23:44.44Nightdewthen if we go with that statement
23:44.46cladhairevhaarr: There is no reason to DISTRIBUTE an addon with Ace2 as a dependency as a seperate addon.
23:44.55vhaarrcladhaire: I know
23:44.58tekkubclad, interpret this lyric for me!
23:45.01cladhairetekkub: k.
23:45.06tekkubDon't try to live so wise. Don't cry 'cause you're so right. Don't dry with fakes or fears, 'Cause you will hate yourself in the end.
23:45.13Nightdewwhat is BS about what I say
23:45.22haste_tekkub: that's a ending song of Naruto!
23:45.28tekkubyes haste
23:45.33haste_man, I'm pro!
23:45.38tekkubthe "dry" thing is driving me nuts
23:45.43vhaarrNightdew: It's BS because noone is releasing addons with Ace2 libs in seperate directories.
23:45.49haste_Friend of mine was so addicted to that song
23:46.03haste_he played he 24/7
23:46.05tekkubI can't figure the damn thing out, and yea it's a great song
23:46.10cladhairetekkub: It means don't dry your tears with fake people, or your fears-- its only going to make things worse in the end.
23:46.19tekkub"Never farring down" makes me giggle every time
23:46.34tekkubclad, works for me :)
23:46.35cladhaireimho
23:46.56cladhaireyou can take your sadness, and surround yourself with people who don't really care about you.. or lock yourself into a corner and hide from the world-- but either option will make you hate yourself in the end.
23:47.00haste_tekkub: I have the lyrics if you want
23:47.20tekkubI know the lyrics, was trying to make sense of that one line
23:47.33haste_hehe
23:47.35tekkubI had the damn stuck in my head all day
23:47.50tekkubI have to do that to counter the shitty "muzak" at work
23:48.05tekkubI can get the Dr. Who theme stuck in my head instanly :)
23:48.25tekkub~Dr. Who
23:48.26purldun da-dun da-dun, dun
23:50.07cladhaire~emulate ckknight
23:50.09purlACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
23:50.15vhaarrlol
23:50.22cladhaire~emulate me
23:50.24purlEmulate you? I dont think I can dumb myself down that much!
23:50.28cladhairehahahahaha
23:50.31cladhaire~emulate cladhaire
23:50.33purlACTION shakes, berries fall to the ground.
23:50.33tekkubkek
23:50.41cladhairelol
23:50.41tekkub~emulate tekkub
23:50.43purl/slap I don't want the shoddy wistletoe!
23:50.47cladhairethat makes me chuckle
23:51.01tekkubhrm.. that's from like xmas
23:53.00vhaarrtekkub: wassap with this locale problem with bossmods and enabling, etc?
23:53.12tekkubugh, I dunno
23:53.23tekkubI've tweaked it on my side
23:53.27Tupladhttp://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j285/Jethro252/google2.png how fake ...
23:53.32tekkubbut I think it's gonna implode when people use it
23:53.36tekkubI'll commit it now!
23:53.40vhaarrOK!
23:54.30Mikmamaia: i need your help now
23:54.46CIA-1103tekkub * r7353 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs - Tweaked sync-enabling, again, expect big painful errors as I can't test shit (why can't you people speak common?)
23:54.49Neronix`sleepTODO for tomorrow: Make X-Perl work *shudder*, add a configurable mana display and y offset to BlizzFrames, add an option for updating the cache less often
23:55.21haste_X-Perl !11!!1
23:55.23tekkubhehe... "I see you sarring and yarring and I feer the same"
23:55.27vhaarrNeronix`sleep: mana is always known?
23:55.31tekkubI love this guy, JPs are so funny
23:55.38Neronix`sleepIt's not displayed on blizzy's frames
23:55.40Neronix`sleepiirc
23:55.43vhaarrah
23:56.00Neronix`sleepAnd I've got several comments from people who want to switch from MI2 but need that
23:56.13Neronix`sleepand the configurable y offset
23:58.38Mikmamaia: yello, wake up
23:58.41CIA-1103tekkub * r7354 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed (Aura-2.0) - Now uses internal compost heap
23:59.02tekkubyea maia, I have a fix for pets with same names for youtoo
23:59.33maiaMikma: I can't. A function just had 28 GCs, and I don't know why. tekkub, that sounds very interesting. can we talk in a bit?

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