irclog2html for #wowace on 20060805

`00:00.15`	`cladhaire`	`the problem is you create 4 strings on every unithealth`
`00:01.06`	`cladhaire`	`do you want just a 2 digit percentage`
`00:01.10`	`cladhaire`	`or do you want 23.23%?`
`00:01.11`	ag`	`yes`
`00:01.14`	ag`	`two digit`
`00:01.17`	`cladhaire`	`k`
`00:01.28`	`ckknight`	`"%.2f%%"`
`00:01.29`	`cladhaire`	`if its single digit no leading 0?`
`00:01.37`	ag`	`nope`
`00:01.39`	`cladhaire`	`k`
`00:01.40`	`mjc`	`"Couldn't load Blizzard_AuctionUI: Disabled"`
`00:01.41`	`mjc`	`weird`
`00:01.47`	`cladhaire`	`mjc: MCP?`
`00:01.55`	`mjc`	`it's checked in MCP`
`00:02.02`	`mjc`	`it doesn't say disabled by MCP :p`
`00:02.05`	ag`	`cladhaire, in that string.format you gave me, what is the "pc" variable?`
`00:02.09`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:02.16`	ag`	`currValue/maxValue`
`00:02.20`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`00:02.31`	`ckknight`	`string.format("%.2f%%", currValue/maxValue)`
`00:02.33`	`ckknight`	`wait`
`00:02.40`	`ckknight`	`string.format("%.2f%%", currValue/maxValue * 100)`
`00:02.42`	`ckknight`	`there we go`
`00:02.52`	`cladhaire`	`why not: local percValue = string.format("%d %%", math.floor((currValue/maxValue) * 100))`
`00:03.03`	`cladhaire`	`oh`
`00:03.07`	`cladhaire`	`nvm your second is fine =)`
`00:03.10`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, %.2f rounds.`
`00:03.16`	`ckknight`	`I prefer it`
`00:03.18`	`cladhaire`	`i know thats what i said =)`
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`00:03.44`	`cladhaire`	ag`: You should avoid changign the min/max value
`00:03.48`	`cladhaire`	`and set by percentage instead`
`00:03.52`	`ckknight`	`phyber, I can't reproduce your PEW bug. I'm on the zeppelin and have gone between Org and Undercity 4 times now, and each time PEW and PLW fire correctly`
`00:03.54`	`mjc`	`cladhaire: I disabled MCP, same error`
`00:03.59`	`ckknight`	`with only Fizzle loaded`
`00:03.59`	`cladhaire`	`widget events are VERY expensive`
`00:04.10`	`Saroz`	`widget events?`
`00:04.26`	`cladhaire`	`anythign dealing with graphics.`
`00:04.30`	`cladhaire`	`hidden or no.`
`00:04.30`	`Saroz`	`ah`
`00:04.37`	ag`	`changing the min/max value?`
`00:04.41`	ag`	`where do I do it`
`00:04.51`	`cladhaire`	`--self.HealthBar:SetMinMaxValues(0,maxValue)`
`00:05.01`	`cladhaire`	`no need to do it on dead either`
`00:05.04`	`cladhaire`	`always have it 0, 100`
`00:05.08`	`Saroz`	`indeed`
`00:05.09`	ag`	`ah`
`00:05.18`	`cladhaire`	`set it to 0 when dead, missing, etc. and set it to perc (your percentage) when not.`
`00:05.21`	`cladhaire`	`i'm revising your function`
`00:05.23`	`cladhaire`	`i'll paste in a second`
`00:05.25`	`Neronix`	`Never, ever rely on a mob health extimator for your bar min/max values`
`00:05.33`	`cladhaire`	`min/max should always be 0 100`
`00:05.34`	`cladhaire`	`always =)`
`00:05.36`	`Neronix`	`because they'll never be accurate enough`
`00:05.40`	`cladhaire`	`since they're always showing a percentage`
`00:05.40`	`Saroz`	`why not just set the value to 0 when dead`
`00:05.42`	`FryGuy`	`can the delay in an ScheduleRepeatingEvent be a non-integer?`
`00:05.44`	`Saroz`	`and keep the max value`
`00:05.44`	`cladhaire`	`and the game gives it to us natively`
`00:05.46`	`Neronix`	`haste did it, and I had problems :P`
`00:05.49`	`cladhaire`	`Saroz: You should.. that's what I said.`
`00:05.53`	`Saroz`	`ok`
`00:05.56`	ag`	`cladhaire, ok. I was going through it myself with the suggestions you made but I wouldn't mind some help :-)`
`00:07.18`	`cladhaire`	`http://pastey.net/125`
`00:07.23`	`cladhaire`	`all the changes are towards the top`
`00:07.28`	ag`	`Might create a system that works where I can register an event for an object, and then it will update that event like you proposed, with an onUpdate`
`00:07.32`	`cladhaire`	`since your style logic throws me off =)`
`00:07.48`	`cladhaire`	ag`: Perhaps we can get it built into AceEvent =)
`00:08.00`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`00:08.05`	`ckknight`	`what do you want?`
`00:08.14`	ag`	`Would rock, tell me if I should start on something now or wait until someone puts it into AceEvent :P`
`00:08.23`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: basically`
`00:08.26`	`cladhaire`	`UNIT_HEALTH fires a lot.`
`00:08.34`	`ckknight`	`understandable`
`00:08.36`	`cladhaire`	`for unit frames, we have no use updating more than say, every 0.2 seconds.`
`00:08.43`	`mjc`	`cladhaire: MCP is off, same thing`
`00:08.43`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`00:08.54`	`cladhaire`	`so what we do, is set work[arg1] = true`
`00:09.01`	`cladhaire`	`and then every 0.2 seconds, we update the units that had issues.`
`00:09.16`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`00:09.20`	`cladhaire`	`which means the MOST often we'll react to an event is every 0.2 seconds.. which cuts down on overhead signifigantly`
`00:09.32`	`cladhaire`	`the trick is grabbing the arg1 and only acting on those frames which need it.`
`00:09.42`	`ckknight`	`what would be an appropriate API for this?`
`00:09.45`	`cladhaire`	`its kind of a fringe case, but almost all the UNIT_EVENTS could use the system.`
`00:10.03`	`ckknight`	`cause, I want the standard to fire every event`
`00:10.04`	`cladhaire`	`ScheduleBucketEvent(event, time)`
`00:10.08`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`00:10.11`	`cladhaire`	`?`
`00:10.18`	`cladhaire`	`what do you mean "I want the standard to fire every event"`
`00:10.20`	`ckknight`	`and only catch arg1, I'd say`
`00:10.28`	`cladhaire`	`corretc, that's always the unit affected for UNIT_COMBAT, etc.`
`00:10.36`	`ckknight`	`:RegisterEvent would not change`
`00:10.45`	`ckknight`	`but your :RegisterBucketEvent could be added`
`00:10.48`	`cladhaire`	`nod`
`00:10.56`	`ckknight`	`Register, I say, not Schedule`
`00:10.59`	`cladhaire`	`and we'd just need to receive a table back with the args to update`
`00:11.03`	`cladhaire`	`well, its a schedule technically`
`00:11.15`	`cladhaire`	`since the ACTUAL handler we specify wil be called every 0.2 seconds`
`00:11.18`	`cladhaire`	`if there's something to update`
`00:11.21`	`ckknight`	`:Schedule* creates schedules, not registering for them`
`00:11.28`	`cladhaire`	`ok`
`00:11.31`	`cladhaire`	`you know that api better than i do`
`00:11.59`	`ckknight`	`okay, so :RegisterBucketEvent("event", delay, "method" or func)`
`00:12.05`	`cladhaire`	`aye`
`00:12.23`	`cladhaire`	`do you have a recycleable way to hand us the table?`
`00:12.26`	`ckknight`	`and every delay seconds, "method" or func is called with the argument being a list of arg1's`
`00:12.28`	ag`	`if no mothod/func then call "event" method/func`
`00:12.34`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, yea, compost-style`
`00:12.42`	`ckknight`	`it'll reclaim after sending off the table`
`00:12.46`	`cladhaire`	`good good`
`00:12.49`	`ckknight`	ag`, right.
`00:12.58`	`ckknight`	`okay, off I get to work`
`00:12.58`	`cladhaire`	`as far as a library, taht's about the best we can get`
`00:13.13`	`cladhaire`	`this SHOULD be saving a function call either way and automating something that's sexy`
`00:13.51`	ag`	`and shouldn't add much more overhead than :RegisterEvent does right?`
`00:14.14`	`cladhaire`	ag`: Ideally,no =)
`00:14.18`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/PerfectFramePool-2.0_API_Documentation any suggestions?`
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`00:16.14`	`cladhaire`	`i smell a host`
`00:16.15`	`cladhaire`	`ghost`
`00:16.46`	`ckknight`	`also, give me suggestions for http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/FuBarPlugin-2.0 when you can`
`00:16.48`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight:`
`00:16.50`	`cladhaire`	`http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/PerfectFramePool-2.0_API_Documentation`
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`00:17.25`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: you started working on perfectraid again? :)`
`00:17.31`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: define "work"`
`00:17.42`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Looks good to me on FBP`
`00:17.45`	`cladhaire`	`nothing I can see`
`00:17.46`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: coding more and more`
`00:17.55`	`ckknight`	`I'm talking more overall design`
`00:18.08`	`ckknight`	`good thing is, I can easily release 2.1 without hassle`
`00:18.29`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: any thoughts on what i just posted?`
`00:18.35`	`ckknight`	`reading now`
`00:18.39`	`Neronix`	`ckknight: Why do you have a IsSomeValue for every function?`
`00:18.50`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, what do you mean?`
`00:19.13`	`Neronix`	`er, every config option`
`00:19.43`	`ckknight`	`cause it has to be that way`
`00:19.49`	`ckknight`	`in order to know the current value`
`00:19.50`	`Neronix`	`You can just do for Dewdrop/AceOptions' disabled fields, self.db.profile.someValue`
`00:20.06`	`Neronix`	`It's always worked for me`
`00:20.07`	`ckknight`	`no you can't`
`00:20.25`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6917 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:`
`00:20.25`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`00:20.25`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:20.30`	`ckknight`	`doesn't work that way`
`00:20.36`	`ckknight`	`that only gets the current value`
`00:20.40`	`Neronix`	`Well, in a non-aceoptions dewdrop where things are checked on function calls, it works fine`
`00:20.44`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, I'm fixing typos :-P`
`00:20.57`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: yeah i was at work.. quite distracted when i was working on it =)`
`00:20.57`	`Neronix`	`maybe not for an AceOptions now that I think about it`
`00:21.04`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, yes, I know, and that's good for you, but not in AceOptions`
`00:21.23`	`Neronix`	`You were doing it with 1.2 plugins too`
`00:21.27`	`ckknight`	`okay, cladhaire, read it, looks very pimp`
`00:21.40`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, yea, it's because it's good practice if I change internal API`
`00:21.59`	`ckknight`	`and it should be abstracted anyway`
`00:22.24`	`Kebinusan`	`every time I zone mailfu says I have new mail`
`00:22.42`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Whaqt did you change, other than the two small typos? and why does that make it "pimp"? =)`
`00:23.05`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, [, "name", parent] -> [, "name"] [, parent]`
`00:23.14`	`ckknight`	`and changed spacing in another header`
`00:23.15`	`ckknight`	`that's all`
`00:23.20`	`cladhaire`	`you can not specify name and still specify parent.. is that correct`
`00:23.46`	`ckknight`	`you can specify either arbitrarily`
`00:24.01`	`ckknight`	`you have it in your example, too`
`00:24.03`	`cladhaire`	`oh okay.. makes sense =)`
`00:25.48`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, for bucket events, if you have two equal arg1s, should there be 2 values or just 1?`
`00:25.56`	`cladhaire`	`just one`
`00:26.26`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`00:26.28`	`cladhaire`	`i'm really excited about this btw.. will promote better practice with unit frames, as long as its not abused =)`
`00:26.37`	`cladhaire`	`one questino tho`
`00:26.47`	`cladhaire`	`if i have two events, registered for buckets, with the same handler.`
`00:26.51`	`cladhaire`	`is the handler called once or twice?`
`00:28.59`	`ckknight`	`twice`
`00:29.11`	`ckknight`	`one for each event`
`00:29.39`	`ckknight`	`and _G.event will be equal to the appropriate event at each time`
`00:30.15`	`cladhaire`	`hrm.. okay.. we'll have to plan around that.`
`00:30.19`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6918 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:`
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`00:30.35`	`cladhaire`	`or is there any chance of registering for a "group" of events that bucket together`
`00:30.38`	`cladhaire`	`or is that asking too much`
`00:30.42`	`cladhaire`	`cause that would be REALLY helpful.`
`00:30.45`	`cladhaire`	`and ultimately flexible.`
`00:31.18`	`ckknight`	`you're asking too much, sorry`
`00:31.39`	`cladhaire`	`=(`
`00:32.14`	`cladhaire`	`either way, it helps cut down from ZOMGIDONTKNOWHOWMANYEVENTS to one call every 0.2 seconds.`
`00:32.25`	`ckknight`	`well...`
`00:32.31`	`ckknight`	`think of a good API for multiple events`
`00:32.34`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`00:32.56`	`cladhaire`	`take a table as the first argument =)`
`00:33.03`	`cladhaire`	`string or table :P`
`00:33.09`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`00:33.14`	`cladhaire`	`seems to make sense given the purpose of the function.`
`00:33.31`	`cladhaire`	`gives you a unique key if you need one too =)`
`00:34.27`	`ckknight`	`how'd you unregister that?`
`00:35.06`	`cladhaire`	`pass the same table, or return a key from the registration function`
`00:35.59`	`ckknight`	`it'd be passing the same table, I'd say`
`00:36.04`	`ckknight`	`granted, it's a fringe case`
`00:36.14`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna program it for 1 event`
`00:36.22`	`ckknight`	`then later expand it to multiple`
`00:37.33`	`cladhaire`	`ok`
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`00:37.35`	`Sole_NDC`	`got dc :(`
`00:37.37`	`cladhaire`	`thanks for even taking a look at it`
`00:38.17`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`00:38.21`	`Sole_NDC`	`so did anyone have any possible suggestion as to why that was happening?`
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`00:41.14`	`ckknight`	`Sole_NDC, why what?`
`00:41.16`	`ckknight`	`hey Kaelten`
`00:41.28`	`Kaelten`	`howdy howdy, whats ups guys?`
`00:41.43`	`cladhaire`	`dude`
`00:41.45`	`cladhaire`	`PerfectRaid works really well`
`00:41.48`	`cladhaire`	`how bout we change nothing`
`00:41.48`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`00:42.07`	`cladhaire`	`zomg hi`
`00:42.11`	`Kyahx`	`=)`
`00:42.14`	`Kyahx`	`Hi2u`
`00:42.18`	`ckknight`	`Kaelten, http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=78`
`00:42.32`	`Kyahx`	`I see we're getting a lesson on proper event usage.`
`00:42.45`	`cladhaire`	`Kyahx: ?`
`00:42.45`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`00:42.55`	`Kyahx`	`About unit frames :P`
`00:42.59`	`Kyahx`	`and going ZOMG in raids.`
`00:43.38`	`ckknight`	`okay, clad, I _might_ be done :-P`
`00:43.44`	`ckknight`	`preliminarily, at least`
`00:44.40`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
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`00:45.38`	`ckknight`	`lemme paste`
`00:45.58`	`ckknight`	`http://ace.pastebin.ca/116006`
`00:46.29`	`ckknight`	`this is completely untested, btw`
`00:47.00`	`ckknight`	`just see if it makes sense`
`00:47.07`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Y9ou mean to make bucketfunc every time?`
`00:47.08`	`ckknight`	`this can easily be expanded to multiple events`
`00:47.14`	`ckknight`	`no, it only makes it once`
`00:47.19`	`ckknight`	`if not bucketfunc then ... end`
`00:48.03`	`cladhaire`	`h`
`00:48.04`	`cladhaire`	`oh`
`00:48.07`	`cladhaire`	`i missed the decl =)`
`00:48.29`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6919 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:`
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`00:50.26`	`Mikma`	ag`: so what updates have you done lately? how will i notice them in game?
`00:50.41`	ag`	`unit_combat numbers on the frames`
`00:50.53`	`Mikma`	`what are they?`
`00:51.22`	ag`	`like... -500`
`00:51.24`	ag`	`or miss`
`00:51.30`	ag`	`or +2140`
`00:51.31`	`Mikma`	`oh combattext`
`00:51.40`	`Mikma`	`why didn't you say so in the first place`
`00:51.59`	ag`	`dunno :P`
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`00:53.38`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, so, look good?`
`00:53.50`	`Mikma`	`ckknight: yes, you do. eventho i'm not cladhaire`
`00:54.02`	`ckknight`	`...`
`00:54.04`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Loots it to me =)`
`00:54.06`	`ckknight`	`meant the code`
`00:54.07`	`cladhaire`	`s/ts/ks/`
`00:54.11`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`00:54.16`	`cladhaire`	`i have to look a bit harder when i have a chance`
`00:54.19`	`Mikma`	`oooh, right, the code`
`00:54.19`	`cladhaire`	`but we can always revisit.`
`00:55.21`	ag`	`cladhaire, ckk uses ScheduleRepeatingEvent though, didn't you talk against that before?`
`00:55.29`	`ckknight`	`right`
`00:55.29`	`ckknight`	`gonna add multiple events`
`00:55.43`	`ckknight`	`AceEvent's scheduling is quite efficient`
`00:56.08`	`cladhaire`	`the heap isn't muy favorite`
`00:56.18`	`cladhaire`	`but its only one step below manual =)`
`00:56.20`	`cladhaire`	`so i can't complain.`
`00:56.22`	`cladhaire`	`i know how efficient it is.`
`00:56.30`	`cladhaire`	`if we save a functnoi call, then we're good.`
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`01:02.44`	`ckknight`	`wait, below manual?`
`01:02.47`	`ckknight`	`what do you mean by that?`
`01:02.53`	`cladhaire`	`manual is faster than your method.`
`01:03.01`	`ckknight`	`um, how?`
`01:03.07`	`cladhaire`	`since each sift costs log(n)`
`01:03.10`	`cladhaire`	`and manual is O(1)`
`01:03.12`	`mjc`	`oRA_Core.lua:344: attempt to index field '?' (nil value)`
`01:03.21`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: is this a correct sentence: "Giving birth was long and painful"`
`01:03.24`	`ckknight`	`but running OnUpdate is much faster with the heap`
`01:03.34`	`ckknight`	`it's O(1), compared to O(n) with manual`
`01:03.37`	`cladhaire`	`not any faster than the way i do it manually`
`01:03.40`	`cladhaire`	`shake`
`01:03.42`	`cladhaire`	`bad manual maybe.`
`01:04.15`	`ckknight`	`think manually as 100 different manual OnUpdates vs. 100 different AceEvent schedules`
`01:04.18`	`ckknight`	`or so`
`01:04.35`	`cladhaire`	`yes, i dont dispute that.`
`01:04.40`	`ckknight`	`doing it manually, you need to check each and every one`
`01:04.45`	`cladhaire`	`but from a complexity standpoint yours is more expensive`
`01:04.55`	`ckknight`	`thus, O(n)`
`01:05.03`	`ckknight`	`but there is no resorting, so that's O(1)`
`01:05.07`	`cladhaire`	`comparison isn't the base operator there.`
`01:05.45`	`cladhaire`	`wait.l`
`01:05.45`	`cladhaire`	`WAIT..`
`01:05.45`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`01:05.46`	`ckknight`	`for AceEvent, OnUpdates are O(1), but resorting is O(log(n))`
`01:05.46`	`cladhaire`	`my onupdate adds to elapsed, and does somethign on 0.2 and 1.0`
`01:05.47`	`cladhaire`	`that's O(1)`
`01:05.47`	`cladhaire`	`every time i make two comparisons.`
`01:06.06`	`cladhaire`	`you have to make the same comparisons to toe top of the heap`
`01:06.08`	`cladhaire`	`so we're even there.`
`01:06.08`	`ckknight`	`I'm thinking in multiple schedules, not just 1`
`01:06.14`	`cladhaire`	`well i'm not =)`
`01:06.18`	`cladhaire`	`on an addon-by-addon basis.`
`01:06.22`	`cladhaire`	`since i only have one.`
`01:06.38`	`ckknight`	`if 100 different addons all have their own OnUpdate, it's slower than all 100 using AceEvent's scheduling`
`01:06.46`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`01:06.54`	`ckknight`	`but if you have 1 addon`
`01:06.54`	`cladhaire`	`but the addon personally take sa hit =)`
`01:06.58`	`ckknight`	`then manual is faster`
`01:07.00`	`ckknight`	`technically`
`01:07.15`	`cladhaire`	`not just technically, it is =)`
`01:07.25`	`cladhaire`	`on a local scope =)`
`01:07.32`	`ckknight`	`okay, so we agree, then?`
`01:07.46`	`ckknight`	`I prefer thinking on grand scales :-P`
`01:07.58`	`cladhaire`	`i prefer making my addon not suck =)`
`01:08.01`	`ckknight`	`cause I find it more likely that multiple addons will be doing OnUpdates`
`01:08.48`	`cladhaire`	`understood`
`01:08.52`	`cladhaire`	`but if you have 100 addons`
`01:08.56`	`cladhaire`	`you may cost more due to the sift`
`01:10.23`	`ckknight`	`the sift seems pretty efficient`
`01:11.40`	`cladhaire`	`it is =)`
`01:11.47`	`cladhaire`	`but its still more expensive than not having to sort at all :P`
`01:13.12`	`ckknight`	`but you still have to check that it's the right time every OnUpdate for every single schedule compared to checking one schedule and being done with it :-P`
`01:13.52`	*** join/#wowace ag` (n=andreasg@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
`01:13.57`	`*** join/#wowace Sole (n=no@203.118.159.21)`
`01:13.57`	`ckknight`	hey ag`
`01:14.00`	`cladhaire`	`hehe`
`01:14.05`	`ckknight`	`and Sole`
`01:14.13`	`Mikma`	`here ya go: http://slate.kaasu.org/birth.jpg`
`01:14.32`	ag`	`hi`
`01:14.53`	ag`	`cladhaire: but would that system ckk is making check for the arg (eg. the unit) who needs to be updated?`
`01:14.56`	`Mikma`	ag`: hi, did you notice the subcommander i did paste for you earlier
`01:15.01`	`ckknight`	yes, ag`
`01:15.11`	ag`	`great ckknight`
`01:15.39`	ag`	`Mikma: yes`
`01:16.03`	`Mikma`	ag`: it's really great program i must say :)
`01:16.17`	ag`	`seems good but I can't make it work yet ^^`
`01:16.31`	`cladhaire`	ag`: It returns a table telling you who to update
`01:16.41`	`Mikma`	ag`: what's wrong?
`01:16.43`	`Kyahx`	`435 per tick SW:Pain hurts`
`01:16.54`	ag`	`Kyahx: you don't see that often`
`01:17.02`	`Kyahx`	`<-- that was mine`
`01:17.04`	`Kyahx`	`:)`
`01:17.27`	ag`	`mine is around 260 in pvp, can reach around 300... In PvE I can get it to 360`
`01:17.44`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: some dragon in BWL?`
`01:17.50`	`Kyahx`	`Player in WSG`
`01:17.54`	`Mikma`	`lol`
`01:18.00`	`Kyahx`	`Killed the FC as he was running with SW:Pain :P`
`01:18.02`	ag`	`cladhaire: where does it forward that table to?`
`01:18.05`	`Mikma`	`how is that possible`
`01:18.14`	`Kyahx`	`retarded amounts of +dmg`
`01:18.19`	`cladhaire`	ag`: To your handler i belivee
`01:18.24`	`Kyahx`	`and ZHC + Zerker Buff`
`01:18.32`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: owned :)`
`01:18.50`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: o_O`
`01:18.54`	ag`	`cladhaire: that sounds like pain for my OO-ness :P`
`01:18.56`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: priest in mage gear ? :D`
`01:19.01`	`Kyahx`	`:)`
`01:19.05`	`Kyahx`	`and damn proud of it!`
`01:19.09`	`cladhaire`	ag`: Why?
`01:19.14`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: priests with 550spell dmg hurt`
`01:19.30`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: combined with some potions`
`01:19.30`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: i would surely take the same gear too :D`
`01:19.31`	`Kyahx`	`I have +460 without trinkets active`
`01:19.36`	ag`	`cladhaire: nah, sorry.. I'd just do "if table[unit] == true"`
`01:19.41`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: well yea add trinkets and pots to it :p`
`01:19.43`	`cladhaire`	`don't do that`
`01:19.45`	`cladhaire`	`do if table[unit]`
`01:19.54`	`cladhaire`	`compares are more expensive than checking if something exists.`
`01:20.20`	ag`	`yeah sorry, and the value might not even be a true/false`
`01:20.24`	`cladhaire`	`yep =)`
`01:20.41`	`cladhaire`	`i'm a freak, dont worry about me =)`
`01:21.14`	ag`	`how far is ckk with it?=)`
`01:21.21`	`ckknight`	ag`, about 10minutes
`01:23.19`	ag`	`Kyahx: Give me your guild so I can get some top of the line dmg gear`
`01:23.27`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`01:23.33`	`Tuplad`	`:D`
`01:23.37`	`Kyahx`	`just convince a guild to let you take up a warlock spot >.>`
`01:23.41`	`Tuplad`	`;\`
`01:23.55`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: if you see a priest on our server ... you should be happy`
`01:24.04`	`Kyahx`	`heh`
`01:24.10`	`Kyahx`	`I still heal`
`01:24.17`	`Kyahx`	`I was MT healer on Nef yesterady >.>`
`01:24.22`	ag`	`Tuplad: more the reason to treat priests nicely so they won't get bored and quit`
`01:24.24`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: priests get whispered at level 10 and asked if they're gonna level tihs char to 60 and get invited to mc/bwl guilds at level 30 and get powerleveled by all`
`01:24.32`	`Kyahx`	`Here, you'll like this one`
`01:24.34`	`Kyahx`	`http://xs303.xs.to/xs303/06274/SWPandMBrecord.JPG`
`01:24.42`	`Kyahx`	`thats the ultimate SW:Pain`
`01:24.54`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: why 2x combatlog?`
`01:24.54`	`ckknight`	`Tuplad, fun.`
`01:25.10`	`Tuplad`	`ckknight: yea :P I wish I had a priest ;(`
`01:25.16`	`ckknight`	`I play priests :-P`
`01:25.27`	`Kyahx`	`shrug becuase stuff was broken :P`
`01:25.34`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: wtf ? 1106 sw:p ?`
`01:25.59`	`Kyahx`	`its staged thou. ZHC + Full Shadow Weaveing + Zerker + Flask + Pots + Curse of Shadow....`
`01:26.02`	`Tuplad`	`ckknight: I should start one aswell :)`
`01:26.10`	`Kyahx`	`and the target was a warrior in zerker with the zerker buff as well...`
`01:26.10`	ag`	`so that SW:P would do something like 10k damage over 24 sec?`
`01:26.16`	`Kyahx`	`yes`
`01:26.16`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: aha :`
`01:26.22`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`01:26.36`	`Tuplad`	`nerf shadow priests :(`
`01:26.42`	`Tuplad`	`they melee rogues down`
`01:26.46`	`Kyahx`	`hahaha`
`01:26.49`	`cladhaire`	`god my ui is sexy`
`01:26.56`	`Tuplad`	`cladhaire: screenshots`
`01:27.09`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: 1106..`
`01:27.23`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahxits staged thou. ZHC + Full Shadow Weaveing + Zerker + Flask + Pots + Curse of Shadow....`
`01:27.36`	`Kyahx`	`well, staged as in perfect conditions`
`01:27.39`	`Kyahx`	`but still a real tick`
`01:27.41`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, yes, I need a screenie ;-)`
`01:28.04`	`[Wobin]`	`hehe`
`01:28.10`	`Tuplad`	`anyone here uses the good ol' discord whale btw ?`
`01:28.11`	`[Wobin]`	`Can you imagine seeing that line up though?`
`01:28.21`	`[Wobin]`	`. o O ( OMG I'm doomed....)`
`01:28.31`	`Tuplad`	`=D`
`01:30.13`	`Kyahx`	`well, 400+ is doom enough :P`
`01:30.19`	`Mikma`	`[Wobin]: that discord line?`
`01:30.49`	`cladhaire`	`waiting for SS upload`
`01:31.06`	`[Wobin]`	`well, you'd first notice the shadow weaving, then the CoS... then the various zaps and flashes as the priest charges up the various trinkets/pots...`
`01:31.17`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`01:31.34`	`Kyahx`	`[Wobin]: I still get 422 with zerker+ZHC and 1/5 SW`
`01:31.51`	`Kyahx`	`dot a mage and run away laughing :)`
`01:31.53`	`[Wobin]`	`I missed out on the HEart of Hakkar last night =(`
`01:31.59`	`Sole`	`is shadow priest a highly gear dependant build?`
`01:32.05`	`Sole`	`I was thinking of one for my alt`
`01:32.07`	`Tuplad`	`Sole: pretty much`
`01:32.08`	`Kyahx`	`eh, yes and no`
`01:32.16`	`Kyahx`	`You can hold your own at 60 with blues`
`01:32.20`	`[Wobin]`	`If you play well, you can do well`
`01:32.21`	`cladhaire`	`http://imagelink.org/info/4634`
`01:32.26`	`Kyahx`	`but your not going to do anything redicioulus unless you have gear to back it up`
`01:32.32`	`[Wobin]`	`a lot of people don't notice SW:P`
`01:32.37`	`Sole`	`hmm`
`01:32.39`	`[Wobin]`	`(unless you're dealing stupid damage)`
`01:32.39`	`Tuplad`	`Sole: a rank 13 on our server literally melees down rogues & some lame warriors`
`01:32.51`	`Kyahx`	`Ewww clad, perl texture :P`
`01:32.59`	`Tuplad`	`cladhaire !!!`
`01:33.08`	`Tuplad`	`cladhaire: I used that texture when I used discord :D`
`01:33.09`	`Sole`	`eww perl`
`01:33.14`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`01:33.16`	`Tuplad`	`and yea, eww perl`
`01:33.25`	`Kyahx`	`smooth FTW`
`01:33.26`	`cladhaire`	`that's not discord`
`01:33.31`	`cladhaire`	`i keep going between smooth and perl`
`01:33.35`	`cladhaire`	`can't decide what i like`
`01:33.48`	`Sole`	`well Ive got relatively high ping, becuase Im from new zealand and I have to play on the US servers`
`01:34.02`	`Sole`	`and it doesnt look like that much of a latency dependant class like my rogue is`
`01:34.06`	`Mikma`	`~lozareth`
`01:34.09`	`purl`	`A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmod.com`
`01:34.15`	`Tuplad`	`hahaha`
`01:34.16`	`Kyahx`	`Sole: which server?`
`01:34.17`	`Sole`	`lol`
`01:34.20`	`Sole`	`Blackrock`
`01:34.23`	`Kyahx`	`Im sorry`
`01:34.26`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`01:34.34`	`Tuplad`	`um`
`01:34.38`	`Tuplad`	`it's discordmodS`
`01:34.48`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: then correct it`
`01:34.55`	`Tuplad`	`how ?`
`01:35.04`	`Mikma`	`ok don't`
`01:35.11`	`Tuplad`	`purl, lozareth is A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmods.com/`
`01:35.13`	`purl`	`...but lozareth is already something else...`
`01:35.17`	`Tuplad`	`-_-`
`01:35.17`	`Sole`	`jeebus clad, 26kb/s ? whatre you doing?`
`01:35.20`	ag`	`~lozareth`
`01:35.22`	`purl`	`A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmod.com`
`01:35.22`	`Tuplad`	`purl, forget lozareth`
`01:35.22`	`purl`	`i forgot lozareth, Tuplad`
`01:35.25`	`Tuplad`	`purl, lozareth is A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmods.com/`
`01:35.27`	`purl`	`okay, Tuplad`
`01:35.45`	`Tuplad`	`smooth`
`01:35.57`	`Kebinusan`	`~emulate lozareth`
`01:36.01`	`Sole`	`Kyahx: priests dont really require 0 ping to do well, correct?`
`01:36.10`	`Sole`	`Because that is the case with a dagger rogue`
`01:36.13`	`Tuplad`	`Sole: hehe, priests are ranged most of the time`
`01:36.19`	`Mikma`	`purl: no, lozareth is <reply> A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmods.com/`
`01:36.21`	`purl`	`okay, Mikma`
`01:36.21`	`Tuplad`	`~lozareth`
`01:36.23`	`purl`	`A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmods.com/`
`01:36.32`	`Kebinusan`	`~emulate Saien`
`01:36.33`	`purl`	`This is a stunningly stupid question to direct at me.`
`01:36.35`	`Tuplad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:36.40`	`Sole`	`well kinda..just when I was daggers Id get "Out of range" when I was right behind the guy`
`01:36.48`	`Tuplad`	`Sole: swords/daggers = same`
`01:36.56`	`Tuplad`	`~emulate Tuplad`
`01:36.57`	`purl`	`zomg, j00 can not emulate Tuplad suxor!`
`01:36.59`	`Sole`	`Tuplad: not necesarily`
`01:37.04`	`Kyahx`	`I had to go combat spec on my rogue to even be remotely usefull when i had shitty internet`
`01:37.05`	`Tuplad`	`Sole: I meant with the range stuff`
`01:37.11`	`Mikma`	`purl: no, lozareth is <reply> A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmods.com/ - "I got mem so why not use it"`
`01:37.13`	`purl`	`Mikma: okay`
`01:37.20`	`Mikma`	`oh damn`
`01:37.20`	ag`	~emulate ag`
`01:37.24`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: so true so true`
`01:37.32`	`Sole`	`Tuplad: I do a lot better in pvp as hemo/combat as getting behind a target is rather hard with high ping`
`01:37.38`	`Tuplad`	`~emulate Mikma`
`01:37.39`	`Mikma`	`purl: no, lozareth is <reply> A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmods.com/\|I got mem so why not use it`
`01:37.41`	`purl`	`okay, Mikma`
`01:37.47`	`Mikma`	`~lozareth`
`01:37.48`	`purl`	`A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmods.com/\|I got mem so why not use it`
`01:37.58`	`Tuplad`	`Sole: meh, never tried combat`
`01:38.00`	`Mikma`	`ok it didn't work that way`
`01:38.03`	`Mikma`	`purl: no, lozareth is <reply> A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmods.com/ - "I got mem so why not use it"`
`01:38.05`	`purl`	`Mikma: okay`
`01:38.09`	`Tuplad`	`~lozareth`
`01:38.10`	`purl`	`A man who stole your FPS and Memory. A.k.a. The Boogeyman of http://www.discordmods.com/ - "I got mem so why not use it"`
`01:38.15`	`Tuplad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:38.18`	`Sole`	`Tuplad: do you mostly pvp?`
`01:38.26`	`Tuplad`	`Sole: not anymore ...`
`01:38.34`	`Sole`	`Tuplad: ahh ok..was going to recommend hemo`
`01:38.43`	`Tuplad`	`Sole: been there done that`
`01:38.48`	`Sole`	`hehe`
`01:38.55`	`Tuplad`	`I prefer quick deaths over perfect stunlocks :]`
`01:39.08`	`Sole`	`Ive played a rogue since day 1 so Ive been practically EVERY build`
`01:39.16`	`Sole`	`guess I only like it because Im bored of the other builds`
`01:39.18`	ag`	`~emulate cladhaire`
`01:39.20`	`purl`	`Good code is something to appreciate like a work of art.`
`01:39.21`	`Tuplad`	`:0`
`01:39.23`	`[Wobin]`	`hehe`
`01:39.23`	`[Wobin]`	`http://www.twolumps.net/d/20050105.html`
`01:39.30`	ag`	`~emulate cladhaire`
`01:39.32`	`purl`	`Good code is something to appreciate like a work of art.`
`01:39.42`	ag`	`~emulate ckknight`
`01:39.43`	`purl`	`ACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))`
`01:39.45`	`cladhaire`	`see even my emulation is boring.`
`01:39.50`	`cladhaire`	`hahahaha`
`01:39.56`	ag`	`damn, purl fucked up`
`01:40.01`	`Tuplad`	`lmao @ wobin`
`01:40.12`	`Sole`	`lol wobin`
`01:40.16`	`Tuplad`	`~emute Tuplad`
`01:40.26`	`Tuplad`	`~emulate Tuplad`
`01:40.27`	`purl`	`zomg, j00 can not emulate Tuplad suxor!`
`01:40.32`	ag`	`~emulate kergoth`
`01:40.35`	`purl`	`ACTION wields a mean spiked metal cluebat`
`01:40.35`	`Tuplad`	`why do I have such a lame emulation ? :/`
`01:40.43`	`Tuplad`	`kek`
`01:40.48`	`cladhaire`	`lol that's cute wobin`
`01:41.00`	ag`	`~emulate cairenn`
`01:41.01`	`purl`	`ACTION purrs`
`01:41.18`	ag`	`~emulate kaelten`
`01:41.47`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight_ (i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com)`
`01:41.48`	`Tuplad`	`~emulate Tem`
`01:41.50`	`purl`	`Dammit, that's it. I'm breaking a new [something]!`
`01:41.56`	`Tuplad`	`oO`
`01:41.56`	`[Wobin]`	`~emulate hyperchipmunk`
`01:41.58`	`purl`	`ACTION chitters.`
`01:42.02`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight_: haha did you see purl's emulate?`
`01:42.07`	`Tuplad`	`~emulate ckknight`
`01:42.09`	`purl`	`ACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))`
`01:42.11`	`Sole`	`ok this is making me annoyed: SoapAnchorFrameText:SetText(L"Timer bars will appear here.")`
`01:42.13`	`Tuplad`	`lawl`
`01:42.26`	`Sole`	`bah sorry, ok why does typing /script SoapAnchorFrameText:SetText(L"Timer bars will appear here.")`
`01:42.27`	`mjc`	`http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html`
`01:42.33`	`Sole`	`^ that works`
`01:42.43`	`Sole`	`^ putting that ina method and then executing it doesnt`
`01:42.59`	`Mikma`	`Sole: which one works?`
`01:43.05`	`Sole`	`the 2nd one`
`01:43.10`	`Sole`	`without the L in front`
`01:43.27`	`Sole`	`its a method which sets all the text strings in the GUI..`
`01:43.41`	`*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`01:43.41`	`Mikma`	`i'm sure you have the l defined at the start of lua right`
`01:43.42`	`Sole`	`all the other ones work...its just this one that doesnt`
`01:43.48`	`Sole`	`yes of course`
`01:43.53`	`Sole`	`here Ill show you`
`01:43.59`	`Sole`	`on pastebin`
`01:44.24`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`01:44.28`	`*** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`01:46.35`	`mjc`	`fubar_durabilityfu isn't 2.0'd yet`
`01:48.06`	`Sole`	`Mikma: http://ace.pastebin.ca/116052`
`01:48.15`	`Sole`	`theres the whole method`
`01:48.52`	`Mikma`	`Sole: can i see the code for creating SoapAnchorFrameText?`
`01:49.02`	`Mikma`	`(dunno does it matter :)`
`01:49.10`	`[Wobin]`	`and is L defined as a local for the whole file?`
`01:49.12`	`ckknight`	`mjc, this is true`
`01:49.33`	`ckknight`	`mjc, if you want to Ace2 it, you have my blessing. I've documented FBP-2.0 now`
`01:49.41`	`Mikma`	ag`: lol, padding semiworks now in Bartender2 :D
`01:49.44`	`[Wobin]`	`woohoo!`
`01:49.55`	ag`	`nice Mikma`
`01:49.59`	`ckknight`	`that goes for any of my FuBar plugins`
`01:50.06`	`Mikma`	ag`: i'll put a screenshot up soon to prove my point :D
`01:50.17`	`mjc`	`ckknight: after I finish taerar & building mono`
`01:50.18`	`ckknight`	`if you want to claim/upgrade/expand them, you can`
`01:50.24`	`Sole`	`Mikma: http://ace.pastebin.ca/116057 sorry the XML got a bit screwed up`
`01:50.28`	`ckknight`	`taerar?`
`01:50.37`	`Kebinusan`	`XRS needs an option to be two bars wide`
`01:50.43`	`[Wobin]`	`ckknight: Do you have a link to the docs?`
`01:50.45`	`cladhaire`	`what is xrs?`
`01:50.53`	`[Wobin]`	`RaidStatus?`
`01:50.55`	`Sole`	`xRaidStatus?`
`01:50.59`	`ckknight`	`http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/FuBarPlugin-2.0`
`01:51.02`	`[Wobin]`	`thanks =)`
`01:51.12`	`[Wobin]`	`hurrah`
`01:51.18`	`[Wobin]`	`now I can update everything =)`
`01:51.50`	`mjc`	`Tekkub still needs to move to compost2 in SEE`
`01:52.25`	`Tekkub`	`yea well I tried to do that 2 days ago, people distracted me with other shit for me 2 days off, it didn't happen`
`01:52.29`	`Mikma`	`Sole: you should do the framecreating in lua, much easier :)`
`01:52.56`	`Mikma`	`Sole: i'm not an expert on .xml or .lua, but seems to me that you don't create the frame for text at all`
`01:53.11`	`Sole`	`yes`
`01:53.22`	`Sole`	`It works when I set the text manually in the xml but it doenst when I try to throug hthe lua`
`01:53.28`	`ckknight`	`[Wobin], if you run into any API inconsistencies/breakages/etc. tell me asap, so I can fix em`
`01:53.38`	`Sole`	`its in the Layers section wobin`
`01:53.48`	`ckknight`	`also, FBP-2.0 still requires AceDB-2.0, I'll fix that soonish`
`01:53.51`	`[Wobin]`	`sure`
`01:54.04`	`Sole`	`err not wobin.. mean Mikma`
`01:54.43`	`[Wobin]`	`Sole: I suspect the lua file gets loaded up before the xml maybe?`
`01:55.02`	`Sole`	`ahh yes`
`01:55.09`	`Mikma`	`heh`
`01:55.13`	`Sole`	`haha`
`01:55.16`	`Mikma`	`wobble to the rescue`
`01:55.21`	`[Wobin]`	`=)`
`01:55.25`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6920 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - buckets galore! See wiki for details`
`01:55.39`	`Sole`	`I changed the order because I was getting an error with the xml but then I deleted that part and I guess I forgot to change it`
`01:55.48`	`[Wobin]`	`"The Bucket residence! Lady of the house, speaking!"`
`01:55.49`	`Sole`	`idiot mistake O_O`
`01:56.13`	`ckknight`	`note: the buckets are completely untested`
`01:56.17`	`ckknight`	`but it _should_ work`
`01:56.21`	`Mikma`	`Sole: doesn't matter, these things are "live and learn" things :D`
`01:56.43`	`cladhaire`	`hahah`
`01:57.17`	`ckknight`	`here's hoping`
`01:58.37`	`Sole`	`...didnt work!`
`01:59.18`	`Tuplad`	`Sole: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=68340544411443785&q=shadow+priest+undead this shows that a blue geared priest can survive some :)`
`01:59.42`	`Sole`	`lol nevermind...fixed it, thanks guys :)`
`01:59.57`	`Sole`	`ill take a look Tuplad`
`02:03.11`	`Mikma`	`damn, i'm having problems with negative numbers in Bartender2 Padding :(`
`02:04.05`	`Mikma`	`i need to find a way of changing negative numbers into positive :P`
`02:04.23`	`Kebinusan`	`antidepressants`
`02:07.13`	`mjc`	`where's the docs for FBP1?`
`02:09.54`	`Nightdew`	`mikma: abs(x) ?`
`02:10.42`	`cladhaire`	`math.abs specifically =)`
`02:10.55`	`Nightdew`	`lol`
`02:11.15`	`Nightdew`	`not necessary with wow`
`02:11.19`	`cladhaire`	`yes`
`02:11.24`	`Nightdew`	`no?`
`02:11.25`	`cladhaire`	`with wow`
`02:11.47`	`mjc`	`ckknight: wow, that's a lot of crap to convert, screw doing that right now`
`02:12.06`	`Mikma`	`ok, thanks, will pil that math.abs now`
`02:12.07`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`02:12.15`	`ckknight`	`feel free to do one at a time :-P`
`02:12.20`	`ckknight`	`or however you want`
`02:12.21`	`Nightdew`	`i think its the same as with the string function`
`02:12.24`	`mjc`	`I meant durabilityfu`
`02:12.25`	`mjc`	`;P`
`02:12.28`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`02:12.30`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: nothing really to pil`
`02:12.32`	`cladhaire`	`just give it a number`
`02:12.43`	`Nightdew`	`dont need string.gsub.. can just do gsub`
`02:12.51`	`ckknight`	`but it's icky.`
`02:12.56`	`cladhaire`	`yeah.. they have most of the shortcuts.`
`02:13.00`	`Nightdew`	`thats beside the point`
`02:13.04`	`Nightdew`	`lol`
`02:13.05`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: yeah but i have no idea how it works so i have to look it up :)`
`02:13.33`	`cladhaire`	`what do you mean?`
`02:13.58`	`cladhaire`	`num = math.abs(num) - returns the absolute value of num`
`02:13.59`	`Mikma`	`well is it just like math.abs(-1) = 1?`
`02:14.11`	`Nightdew`	`yes`
`02:14.18`	`cladhaire`	`yep =)`
`02:14.20`	`cladhaire`	`its \|num\|`
`02:14.25`	`cladhaire`	`mathmatical absolute value`
`02:14.30`	`Nightdew`	`math.abs(-1) == math.abs(1)`
`02:14.37`	`Tuplad`	`Sole: well hf watching, Im off :)`
`02:14.42`	`Mikma`	`what about if i have positive value?`
`02:14.46`	`Mikma`	`will it turn it into negative?`
`02:14.49`	`cladhaire`	`nope`
`02:14.52`	`cladhaire`	`returns the positive`
`02:14.54`	`Mikma`	`oh good :D`
`02:14.57`	`cladhaire`	`wikipedia absolute vale`
`02:14.59`	`cladhaire`	`value`
`02:15.01`	`*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`02:15.04`	`cladhaire`	`its not a lua thing, its mathmatical =)`
`02:15.21`	`cladhaire`	`~wikipedia absolute value`
`02:15.55`	`Mikma`	`purl: thanks`
`02:15.55`	`purl`	`Mikma: bitte`
`02:15.57`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: thanks`
`02:16.01`	`cladhaire`	`no =)`
`02:16.19`	`cladhaire`	`range checking in perfect raid is kinda fun`
`02:16.58`	ag`	`ckknight: AceEvent line 605 unexpected symbol`
`02:17.09`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`02:17.18`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: eventho it was me who asked for that feature i still see it kinda, well, not working properly :D this means that if person is once marked "oor" it does not change into normal unless i click on him again`
`02:17.18`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: Do you not compile before commit? =)`
`02:17.22`	`ckknight`	`nope`
`02:17.30`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: its meant to do that`
`02:17.31`	`cladhaire`	`why not?`
`02:17.43`	`ckknight`	`because the way I code is like pissing in the wind`
`02:17.58`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`02:18.02`	`cladhaire`	`even more of a reason =)`
`02:18.05`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: yeah i know :) but then the problem is i don't know when the person is back in range :D and like you said once, it's impossible to check that out`
`02:18.12`	`ckknight`	`yea, I know`
`02:18.21`	`ckknight`	`testing now :-P`
`02:18.59`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: Keep healing, it solves the problem =)`
`02:19.08`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: aye :D`
`02:20.00`	`Mikma`	`Tekkub said funyn about macs couple of days ago. I said that i like being rightclick-handicapped, he said "less Clique power for you"`
`02:20.22`	`Mikma`	`funny thing about macs*`
`02:20.23`	`cladhaire`	`hahaha`
`02:20.25`	`Tekkub`	`^^`
`02:20.30`	`Tekkub`	`that was last night`
`02:20.34`	`ckknight`	`okay, odd`
`02:20.37`	`Mikma`	`it was? god`
`02:20.42`	`ckknight`	`the :RegisterAllEvents code is now missing`
`02:20.43`	`ckknight`	`goddammit`
`02:20.44`	`Mikma`	`but it was still funny as hell`
`02:21.45`	`Mikma`	`omg it works just the way it should now, thanks Nightdew and cladhaire :D`
`02:21.56`	`cladhaire`	`np =)`
`02:22.41`	`Tekkub`	`I just realised a vital feature is missing from MuTorrent`
`02:22.47`	`cladhaire`	`?`
`02:22.48`	`ckknight`	`what's that?`
`02:22.55`	`Tekkub`	`it won't play my Babylon 5 doorbell sound when a file completes`
`02:22.58`	`ckknight`	`~inflatable dildos`
`02:23.03`	`purl`	`Oh yea baby, stretch that hole!`
`02:23.05`	`Tekkub`	`I liked my bonky bonk bonk`
`02:23.33`	`Tekkub`	`cause than I was like "oh what finished?" and I'd check`
`02:23.38`	`Tekkub`	`now I forget the box is even there`
`02:25.00`	ag`	`ckknight: I fixed the error fast to test the new API, it works`
`02:25.09`	`ckknight`	ag`, great
`02:25.55`	`*** join/#wowace Amadeo (i=amadeo@c-69-140-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`02:25.57`	ag`	`and even if you set bucket events to update at 0.5-1, it doesn't seem that slow`
`02:26.10`	`Amadeo`	`ugh`
`02:26.14`	`Amadeo`	`killing some giants in Winterspring`
`02:26.18`	`Amadeo`	`my FPS is dropping to like 3`
`02:26.24`	`Amadeo`	`have to figure out what's causing it`
`02:27.44`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6921 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:`
`02:27.44`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`02:27.44`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:29.56`	`Kyahx`	`I'd like you all to know...that wheat thins are amazing.`
`02:30.08`	`Amadeo`	`I think it's agUF causing it`
`02:30.46`	`Kyahx`	`buckets eh?`
`02:31.00`	`Kebinusan`	`~whaletubes`
`02:31.16`	`Kebinusan`	`~whaletubes Kayhx`
`02:31.18`	`purl`	`ACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into Kayhx's tubes. Kayhx's internets no worky :(`
`02:31.19`	`Kyahx`	`:)`
`02:31.30`	`Mikma`	ag`: http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender2/padscale.jpg
`02:31.53`	ag`	`Nice Mikma`
`02:32.12`	`Kyahx`	`Mikma: can I request a Bartender feature?`
`02:32.14`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`02:32.16`	ag`	`do you plan to add page change if you hold down a button?`
`02:32.32`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: yes`
`02:32.50`	`Mikma`	ag`: well if i find out a good code to do that i can :)
`02:32.56`	`Kyahx`	`Load deafult setup from a seperate lua file (ala Discord) so it can take over the UI compilation scene :P`
`02:32.59`	`Mikma`	`i also am planning on making keybindings`
`02:33.23`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: i'm sure that's already been sorted out since i use AceDB`
`02:33.26`	ag`	`ofc :)`
`02:33.33`	`Kyahx`	`hmmm`
`02:33.56`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6922 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - bugfix. whoopsie doodle.`
`02:34.00`	`Mikma`	`atleast i think there's a way of copying profiles :D`
`02:34.25`	`Mikma`	`hmm`
`02:34.59`	`Mikma`	`maybe i should change that ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter into ## SavedVariables`
`02:35.51`	`Kyahx`	`Why use SavedVariablesPerCharecter?`
`02:35.57`	`Kyahx`	`AceDB can handle all that anyways`
`02:36.20`	`ckknight`	`actually, feel free to use SavedVariablesPerCharacter`
`02:36.26`	`ckknight`	`AceDB can seamlessly work with both`
`02:36.31`	`Mikma`	`neat :D`
`02:36.38`	`ckknight`	`if you're saving a lot of character-centric data`
`02:36.47`	`Mikma`	`well, not exactly`
`02:36.48`	`ckknight`	`:RegisterDB("dbName" [, "charDBName"])`
`02:37.03`	`Mikma`	`posx posy padding width length ... that's about it`
`02:37.11`	`Mikma`	`that x 10 for every bar`
`02:37.28`	ag`	`nn`
`02:39.05`	`Galka`	`Any Teknicolor users here?`
`02:39.13`	`Kyahx`	`I use ck's branch`
`02:39.16`	`Mikma`	`same`
`02:39.19`	`ckknight`	`~internet`
`02:39.20`	`purl`	`internet is probably for porn http://youtube.com/watch?v=eg1PL2ezBmU`
`02:39.21`	`ckknight`	`~the internet`
`02:39.32`	`Galka`	`Same here Kyahx`
`02:39.37`	`Galka`	`Do you find it misses quite a few names?`
`02:39.40`	`ckknight`	`purl, no the internet is not a big truck, it's a series of tubes`
`02:39.42`	`purl`	`ckknight: okay`
`02:40.04`	`ckknight`	`~the internet`
`02:40.18`	`Kyahx`	`Galka: eh, I just have to open the window / close the window quick`
`02:40.21`	`Mikma`	`~the`
`02:40.23`	`Kyahx`	`but yea, its not perfect`
`02:40.29`	`Galka`	`Open the /who window?`
`02:40.33`	`ckknight`	`~findkeys internet`
`02:41.13`	`Kyahx`	`no, the raid window`
`02:41.24`	`Kyahx`	`it dosent pick up people in general channels unless you mouse over them or who`
`02:41.36`	`Kyahx`	`and rightly so, I dont want shit whoing everyone, too much overhead`
`02:41.48`	`ckknight`	`right`
`02:42.05`	`Kyahx`	`ckknight: its not seeing guild-mates who log in thou`
`02:42.07`	`Galka`	`Ah that makes sense then`
`02:42.09`	`Kyahx`	`untill I open the guild window`
`02:42.10`	`Galka`	`Yeah`
`02:42.14`	`Galka`	`My issue is with guildmates`
`02:42.21`	`Galka`	`I could care less about Joeblow off the street`
`02:42.24`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`02:42.26`	`ckknight`	`Kyahx, ah, okay`
`02:42.31`	`ckknight`	`that can be averted`
`02:42.37`	`ckknight`	`granted, I don't have a guild to test`
`02:42.42`	`Kyahx`	`a quick open/close of the guild window fixes it`
`02:43.03`	`Kyahx`	`well, there has to be something fired when someone comes online`
`02:43.19`	`Mikma`	`internet is for poooooorn, pooorn pooorn pooorn`
`02:43.34`	`ckknight`	`Kyahx, yea, there is`
`02:47.16`	`Galka`	`Im still having a hard ass time deciding between MSBT and SCT-Ace2`
`02:47.19`	`Galka`	`:/`
`02:47.26`	`Kyahx`	`I've resorted to nothing ATM`
`02:47.28`	`Kyahx`	`heh`
`02:47.40`	`Galka`	`I still like msbt :/`
`02:47.45`	`[Wobin]`	`I like msbt`
`02:47.45`	`Galka`	`I think ill wait til SCT2 blows my mind`
`02:47.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`im in the middle of zg right now and just updated bigwigs and im getting an error in AceEvent-2.0's TriggerEvent everytime a boss dies and a module is disabled, this a known bug?`
`02:48.08`	`[Wobin]`	`but most of that like is due to the feelgood factor of Mikord asking me for advice on it =P`
`02:48.12`	`Kyahx`	`I want dhud to exist in ace form, but I dont have the motivation to make it =(`
`02:48.20`	`Galka`	`omg Kyahx`
`02:48.24`	`Galka`	`That wouold be my dream come true`
`02:48.33`	`Galka`	`Im sorry, but DHUD is just fanfuckingtastic`
`02:48.38`	`Galka`	`The only HUD ive ever liked`
`02:48.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`was getting the error earlyer and thats why i upgraded in the middle of a raid`
`02:48.58`	`Kyahx`	`hmmm`
`02:49.02`	`ckknight`	`Arrowmaster, what's the bug?`
`02:49.06`	`Galka`	`IceHUD has potential`
`02:49.13`	`Kyahx`	`but its ugly IMO`
`02:49.16`	`Galka`	`Waiting on good ol' Iceroth to pretty much copy DHUD's features >.>`
`02:49.19`	`Kyahx`	`I like bubbles.`
`02:49.24`	`Amadeo`	`I like MSBT more also...and I think it's still lighter weight`
`02:49.27`	`Galka`	`Aye DHUD is rather pretty`
`02:49.32`	`Galka`	`Amadeo thats been my finding as well`
`02:49.38`	`Amadeo`	`plus the new SCT scrolls so far`
`02:49.40`	`Amadeo`	`I dunno why`
`02:49.49`	`Arrowmaster`	[22:45-5]: <unknown>:<evaluated>: in function `next'AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:175: in function `TriggerEvent'AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:672: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:670> ---
`02:49.50`	`Amadeo`	`like all the way off the top of the screen`
`02:50.11`	`ckknight`	`Arrowmaster, known bug, I'll fix that now`
`02:50.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`k`
`02:50.20`	`Galka`	`Do you guys use any comparison addons, i.e. EquipCompare, ItemCompare, QuickCompare?`
`02:50.30`	`[Wobin]`	`I've always had EC`
`02:50.31`	`ckknight`	`EquipCompare here`
`02:50.33`	`Arrowmaster`	`same`
`02:50.39`	`Amadeo`	`I should use one, but I hate seeing the extra tooltips all the time`
`02:50.49`	`Amadeo`	`sometimes I don't want to compare`
`02:50.52`	`Amadeo`	`I just want to see an item!`
`02:50.53`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah I love dhud`
`02:50.53`	`Thrae`	`I use QuickCompare, seems to work a little better then EC.`
`02:50.54`	`[Wobin]`	`Although Tem's (?) one was one I always wanted`
`02:51.03`	`Kebinusan`	`It needs a target of target function though`
`02:51.06`	`Kebinusan`	`its the one thing I wish it had`
`02:51.15`	`[Wobin]`	`where it gave the specific difference on the tooltip (+3 damage etc)`
`02:51.17`	`Amadeo`	`Didn't the DHUD author close off releasing it to the public?`
`02:51.26`	`ckknight`	`Amadeo, afaik`
`02:51.41`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah, he got all emo and said no more public releases`
`02:51.42`	`Amadeo`	`Yeah, so I won't use DHUD just because of that :P`
`02:51.44`	`Amadeo`	`I don't care how good it is`
`02:51.58`	`ckknight`	`Kebinusan, hehe, emo`
`02:52.10`	`[Wobin]`	`/wrists`
`02:52.16`	`ckknight`	`~wrists`
`02:52.42`	`ckknight`	`purl, wrists is <reply>Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road!`
`02:52.43`	`purl`	`ckknight: okay`
`02:52.43`	`[Wobin]`	`purl no, wrists is <action> /wrists.`
`02:52.45`	`purl`	`[Wobin]: okay`
`02:52.47`	`[Wobin]`	`bah`
`02:52.48`	`ckknight`	`wtf`
`02:52.50`	`[Wobin]`	`do it again`
`02:52.52`	`ckknight`	`purl, wrists is <reply>Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road!`
`02:52.54`	`purl`	`...but wrists is already something else...`
`02:52.55`	`[Wobin]`	`yours is better =)`
`02:52.57`	`ckknight`	`purl, no wrists is <reply>Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road!`
`02:52.58`	`purl`	`ckknight: okay`
`02:53.06`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`02:53.07`	`ckknight`	`~wrists`
`02:53.09`	`purl`	`Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road!`
`02:53.20`	`Kyahx`	`Bartender2 in trunk?`
`02:53.48`	`[Wobin]`	`sob`
`02:53.58`	`[Wobin]`	`now I have "The Internet is for Porn" stuck in my head`
`02:53.58`	`Kebinusan`	`. /wrists`
`02:54.22`	`Amadeo`	`I think I'm the only one that didn't care much about that video`
`02:54.23`	`[Wobin]`	`I love that video`
`02:54.44`	`[Wobin]`	`I like it cause, 1) custom song 2) custom sung =)`
`02:54.49`	`Amadeo`	`hehe`
`02:54.50`	`[Wobin]`	`and 3) Backup gnomes`
`02:55.04`	`Kebinusan`	`Im your basic druid looking for a guild, 55 purples good with any build.`
`02:55.10`	`Galka`	`Thrae`
`02:55.15`	`Amadeo`	`but that song wasn't created for WoW, [Wobin]`
`02:55.17`	`Galka`	`Have you been having a problem with QuickCompare?`
`02:55.19`	`[Wobin]`	`Kebinusan: Come to Argent Dawn =)`
`02:55.27`	`Thrae`	`Galka: No, why?`
`02:55.31`	`Galka`	`I cant get the icons/mouse-over links to stop appearing even following his instructions`
`02:55.32`	`[Wobin]`	`Amadeo: No? Aw. It still fit well. Where's it from?`
`02:55.37`	`Kebinusan`	`hehe no Im not wobin, but have you heard that song`
`02:55.38`	`Kebinusan`	`its catchy`
`02:55.46`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: ping`
`02:55.55`	`Thrae`	`Galka: Hmmm weird, must be one of the addons you're using that we're not.`
`02:56.01`	`Tekkub`	`what?`
`02:56.23`	`Amadeo`	`[Wobin]: I'm not sure, I saw some Howard Stern thing with it`
`02:56.29`	`[Wobin]`	`Kebinusan: no, linky =)`
`02:56.29`	`Sole`	`Tuplad: I just watched Cavil's video...hes good`
`02:56.39`	`mjc`	`it'd be nice if PRT could be set to auto-assist main tank X`
`02:56.56`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah trying to find it`
`02:56.59`	`mjc`	`like microassist does for classes`
`02:57.24`	`Amadeo`	`[Wobin]: Not sure which came first though`
`02:57.29`	`Amadeo`	`I didn't think the WoW one did, but maybe it did`
`02:57.32`	`CIA-11`	`03mikma 07Mikma * r6923 10Bartender2/ (Bartender2.lua Bartender2.toc):`
`02:57.32`	`CIA-11`	`Bartender2:`
`02:57.32`	`CIA-11`	`* Padding is kinda working, cannot be changed in game yet`
`02:57.32`	`CIA-11`	`* Removed another AceOO-2.0 from .toc`
`02:57.32`	`CIA-11`	`* Resized some bars and changed SetPoints. Default layout will change later`
`02:57.39`	`Kebinusan`	`http://www.lyricalpink.com/purple_monster.mp3`
`02:58.37`	`Tekkub`	`PTR is not an assit mod and it is not a tank mod, sorry`
`02:58.43`	`Thrae`	`Tem: I feel for you and AceGUI.`
`02:58.46`	`Tekkub`	`ask kerg about the assist mod`
`02:58.48`	`Amadeo`	`Omni Cooldown Count has been annoying me a lot lately`
`02:58.56`	`Amadeo`	`I'm getting sick of seeing 0 :P`
`02:58.58`	`Thrae`	`I've rewritten my framework at least 15 times.`
`02:59.21`	`Thrae`	`Making a lib that doesn't suck is hard.`
`02:59.44`	`mjc`	`yees.`
`03:00.03`	`Arrowmaster`	`'the internet is for porn' song is from a broadway musical called 'avenue q'`
`03:00.36`	`mjc`	`http://ohdarn.net/Ass-n-Tities.mp3`
`03:00.53`	`Amadeo`	`Arrowmaster: wikipedia? :)`
`03:01.11`	`Thrae`	`What, people can't randomly know useless trivia? :D`
`03:01.21`	`Amadeo`	`Thrae: Correct!`
`03:01.22`	`Amadeo`	`haha`
`03:01.23`	`Mikma`	`Kebinusan: that was a good song :D`
`03:01.25`	`[Wobin]`	`er`
`03:01.27`	`[Wobin]`	`hang on`
`03:01.32`	`[Wobin]`	`Big Blue Dress wasn't original?`
`03:01.39`	`[Wobin]`	`or Internet is for Porn isn't original`
`03:01.44`	`[Wobin]`	`(I know the latter isn't)`
`03:01.45`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah it cracks me up`
`03:01.57`	`Thrae`	`"Before you start using that Unix-derived operating system, please be aware that Unix was originally coded in B. If you do not know this, you will rm -fr / by mistake."`
`03:02.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`no because my friend would play the song on his laptop long before the wow video was made`
`03:02.15`	`[Wobin]`	`Big Blue Dress?`
`03:02.28`	`Kebinusan`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfr7xG6smhU`
`03:03.56`	`[Wobin]`	`hehe`
`03:04.00`	`[Wobin]`	`Steve's an aussie`
`03:04.50`	`mjc`	`nice, new realtek drivers today`
`03:05.03`	`mjc`	`hopefully they fixed the lag bug I keep getting`
`03:05.54`	`Amadeo`	`why does BugSack need "!BugGrabber" now?`
`03:07.08`	`Amadeo`	`Now I have four addons with ! in them`
`03:07.08`	`ckknight`	`cause it always did?`
`03:07.30`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight: Last revision it didn't need you to download anything seperately`
`03:07.41`	`ckknight`	`um, BugGrabber.`
`03:07.54`	`Thrae`	`They changed the name from !BugGrabber to BugGrabber, then back again`
`03:08.08`	`Amadeo`	`so he moved the folder out?`
`03:08.10`	`cladhaire`	`i liked the old standalone version`
`03:08.13`	`Amadeo`	`yeah`
`03:08.20`	`Amadeo`	`it used to be standalone, that's what I'm saying`
`03:08.27`	`Thrae`	`Probably the first rename was because kergoth bitched, then we decided kergoth bitching isn't always right ;)`
`03:08.34`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`03:08.37`	`[Wobin]`	`hah!`
`03:08.40`	`[Wobin]`	`Vindicated`
`03:08.52`	`ckknight`	`good song`
`03:08.54`	`Amadeo`	`I need some good glue`
`03:08.57`	`[Wobin]`	`http://cranius.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!6174BA0350BAA452!163.entry?_c=BlogPart#permalink`
`03:09.03`	`Amadeo`	`glue that lasts! glue that's strong!`
`03:10.52`	`Sole`	`lol dumb question: who do you guys think looks cooler as a shadow priest? UD male or female?`
`03:11.30`	`Amadeo`	`Neither, they're both overplayed :P`
`03:11.57`	`ckknight`	`Sole, I like bald UD male or long-haired UD male`
`03:12.04`	`ckknight`	`the other hairstyles are bleh`
`03:14.09`	`Thrae`	`The one that has the "HEALR DPS PEW PEW" tatooed on its back.`
`03:14.32`	`Thrae`	`God Shadow Priests are so damn unbalanced.`
`03:14.57`	`*** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@220-245-171-242.tpgi.com.au)`
`03:15.15`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`03:15.20`	`Sole`	`haha`
`03:15.36`	`Kaelten`	`does anyone know of a good formulaic way to see what day of the week a given date is?`
`03:15.45`	`ckknight`	`in WoW?`
`03:15.54`	`Thrae`	`What about os.date?`
`03:15.55`	`Kaelten`	`yep`
`03:16.00`	`ckknight`	`date("*t")`
`03:16.03`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`03:16.34`	`Thrae`	`Yeah Lua can give you the day of the week, unless they pulled that option out when compiling WoW's version`
`03:16.40`	`ckknight`	`they didn't`
`03:16.43`	`ckknight`	`I use it in GloryLib`
`03:17.05`	`Kaelten`	`nope it returns a wday argument`
`03:17.10`	`Kaelten`	`awesome, that makes my life easier`
`03:17.27`	`Kaelten`	`ckknight: how do I ask for what a specific date is though?`
`03:17.36`	`Kaelten`	`say 12-1-06?`
`03:17.56`	`ckknight`	`date("*t", t)`
`03:18.04`	`ckknight`	`where t is a time() thingy`
`03:18.15`	`ckknight`	`date("t") == date("t", time())`
`03:18.29`	`ckknight`	`so tomorrow is date("*t", time() + 86400)`
`03:18.51`	`ckknight`	`alternatively, time(date("*t")) == time()`
`03:19.00`	`ckknight`	`so you can edit the month + day in the date table`
`03:19.02`	`ckknight`	`then time it`
`03:19.04`	`ckknight`	`then date that`
`03:19.08`	`ckknight`	`and you'll have your wday`
`03:19.19`	`ckknight`	`convoluted, but it works`
`03:20.02`	`eternally777`	`Is there any particular reason why authors put each individual library in it's own unique directory within the addon?`
`03:20.03`	`Amadeo`	`Thrae: Shadow Priests only suck for classes that can't really break fear`
`03:20.36`	`ckknight`	`eternally777, yea, svn:externals works that way`
`03:20.45`	`ckknight`	`if we could do flat files, we would`
`03:20.48`	`eternally777`	`ahh`
`03:21.04`	`eternally777`	`I was going to say... it was starting to annoy me :P`
`03:21.38`	`Thrae`	`Amadeo: Or classes that can't deal burst DPSD`
`03:23.00`	`Amadeo`	`Everyone can now days!`
`03:23.09`	`Amadeo`	`Just have to spec for it`
`03:23.43`	`Thrae`	`And Shadow Priests can spec for survivability ;)`
`03:24.21`	`Thrae`	`Maybe I just feel more defensive because I've been playing a Druid for so long. Heh.`
`03:24.30`	`Amadeo`	`psh`
`03:24.39`	`Amadeo`	`I've been Ravaged by a Druid before for 2200`
`03:24.41`	`Amadeo`	`that's Burst :)`
`03:24.47`	`[Wobin]`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI`
`03:24.50`	`[Wobin]`	`Ok Go`
`03:24.53`	`Thrae`	`Rare Ravage crit :D`
`03:24.54`	`[Wobin]`	`They are - brilliant-`
`03:25.00`	`[Wobin]`	`OK Go on Treadmiills =)`
`03:25.09`	`Amadeo`	`Thrae: 900-1500 Maul crits :P`
`03:27.17`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, ping`
`03:27.25`	`Tekkub`	`what?`
`03:27.46`	`mjc`	`lol @ 'what?'`
`03:27.56`	`Tekkub`	`in LUBERS`
`03:28.01`	`ckknight`	`you know that evil error that triggerevent shoots?`
`03:28.01`	`Tekkub`	`just wiped`
`03:28.12`	`Tekkub`	`well they wiped, I FD'd`
`03:28.12`	`ckknight`	`with BigWigs`
`03:28.20`	`Tekkub`	`that evil error...`
`03:28.26`	`Tekkub`	`invalid next?`
`03:28.29`	`ckknight`	`right`
`03:28.32`	`mjc`	`yay most of my lag problems are gone now`
`03:28.33`	`Tekkub`	`I hate that error`
`03:28.33`	`ckknight`	`how do I reproduce?`
`03:28.35`	`mjc`	`but my FPS still sucks`
`03:28.35`	`mjc`	`:P`
`03:28.56`	`Tekkub`	`they claim it happens when bosses die, ammo claims that's cause of togglemoduleactive`
`03:29.12`	`ckknight`	`I checked out ToggleModuleActive`
`03:29.16`	`Tekkub`	`but it could be damn near anything changing a table that's being iterated over...`
`03:29.18`	`ckknight`	`and repeatedly turned on and off modules`
`03:29.31`	`Amadeo`	`mjc: What was causing it?`
`03:29.43`	`mjc`	`realtek drivers`
`03:29.44`	`Tekkub`	`you might have to do it in combat...`
`03:29.45`	`Amadeo`	`ahh`
`03:29.46`	`ckknight`	`if I could somehow reproduce it outside of a raid...`
`03:29.50`	`mjc`	`they released a new one today`
`03:29.58`	`Tekkub`	`make a module tied to a normal mob`
`03:30.15`	`Tekkub`	`we need a stack dump, that should help`
`03:30.24`	`Tekkub`	`I hate that next error, it's painful to dig up`
`03:30.34`	`ckknight`	`is bugsack fixed yet?`
`03:30.43`	`Tekkub`	`Sheppard was causing one because it cleared the target mid-scanning`
`03:30.55`	`Tekkub`	`uh, no clue, the one I have works`
`03:31.04`	`Tekkub`	`but I checked it out a day or so ago`
`03:31.05`	`ckknight`	`alternatively, how do I create a module tied to a level 1 pig?`
`03:31.06`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`03:31.22`	`Tekkub`	`I posted tiny code to dump a stack trace in the FS issue comment`
`03:31.38`	`Tekkub`	`you basically just need the mob's name`
`03:32.16`	`Tekkub`	`copy one of the simpler modules, like jeklik in ZG`
`03:32.45`	`Kaelten`	`gnight guys`
`03:32.47`	`Kaelten`	`see you later`
`03:33.07`	`Tekkub`	`you don't even need to set up the scanning trigger, just turn it on manually :)`
`03:33.27`	`Tekkub`	`I'll toy after LUBERS if I have time and you've not found it`
`03:33.50`	`ckknight`	`thanks`
`03:33.56`	`ckknight`	`I want to squash the bug`
`03:34.31`	`ckknight`	`gah, gtg`
`03:34.37`	`ckknight`	`out to dinner`
`03:34.45`	`ckknight`	`if you do find the root, that'd be great`
`03:34.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`im in zg now about to kill jindo, if theres anything i can do to help out when i get the bug just tell me`
`03:35.28`	`Kyahx`	`log it :P and try to note when it happens / what might cause it`
`03:35.45`	`Arrowmaster`	`i know exactly when it happens`
`03:39.12`	`ckknight`	`what we need is a perfect Bugsack`
`03:39.16`	`ckknight`	`that gets full debugstacks`
`03:40.36`	`Kyahx`	`is makeing a verticle status bar easy? You can change the orientation right?`
`03:41.20`	`ckknight`	`vertical`
`03:41.21`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`03:41.48`	`Tekkub`	`I got one set up, maybe I'll catch it in LUBERS...`
`03:41.57`	`Tekkub`	`Blackhand Veteran must die!`
`03:41.59`	`Kyahx`	`hmmm`
`03:42.10`	`ckknight`	`good stuff`
`03:42.11`	`Kyahx`	`a HUD might not be as hard as I think`
`03:45.23`	`Galka`	`Holy moly.`
`03:45.32`	`Galka`	`I just used BulkMail to send 4 items to my mule`
`03:45.40`	`Galka`	`A string of bugsack errors like you wont believe O_O`
`03:46.01`	`Galka`	`Nothing is more disheartening than hearing FATALITY-FATALITY-FATALITY-FATALITY-FATALITY-`
`03:47.55`	`Tekkub`	`nope, no next error for me`
`03:51.27`	`*** part/#wowace Amadeo (i=amadeo@c-69-140-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`03:54.11`	`teedog`	`the new Bugsack is bugged methinks`
`03:56.05`	`*** join/#wowace Amadeo (i=amadeo@c-69-140-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`03:56.33`	`Amadeo`	`I just got a huge string of errors for agUF/AceEvent`
`04:07.23`	`*** join/#wowace snurre (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-46-166.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`04:13.02`	`[Wobin]`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eresva5S21Q`
`04:13.11`	`[Wobin]`	`ALGORITHM MARCH WITH NINJA!`
`04:13.18`	`[Wobin]`	`God I love those wacky japanese`
`04:17.49`	`[Wobin]`	`have you seen the demo for Portal? The new Valve game?`
`04:17.54`	`[Wobin]`	`dear god people`
`04:17.57`	`[Wobin]`	`that's some wacky shit`
`04:18.03`	`[Wobin]`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdo0npuzWeA`
`04:21.58`	`*** part/#wowace Amadeo (i=amadeo@c-69-140-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`04:26.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh =(`
`04:26.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`mis`
`04:31.53`	`haste`	`morning`
`04:38.14`	`Kyahx`	`morning haste`
`04:38.51`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi 07otravi * r6924 10otravi_UnitFrames/ (13 files in 6 dirs): oUF2 - set svn:eol-style LF`
`04:39.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`ok im not getting the next errors anymore, dont know what i did but i noticed i stoped getting them when my load messages started being in color instead of being white`
`04:39.54`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi 07otravi * r6925 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/ (casting.lua core.lua frame.lua mirror.lua oCB.toc): oCB2 - set svn:eol-style LF`
`04:40.33`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r6926 10oCD/ (core.lua hooks.lua items.lua oCD.toc): oCD - set svn:eol-style LF`
`04:43.08`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r6927 10oRA/ (5 files): oRA - set svn:eol-style LF`
`04:43.10`	`Kyahx`	`haste: what is that?`
`04:43.14`	`Kyahx`	`svn:eol-style?`
`04:43.29`	`haste`	`prevents people from converting the end lines into windows format`
`04:43.37`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`04:43.40`	`haste`	`since it rapes diff`
`04:44.29`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r6928 10oRA_Assist/ (oRA_Assist.lua oRA_Assist.toc oRA_AssistLocals.lua): oRA_Assist - set svn:eol-style LF`
`04:45.12`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r6929 10oRA_Cooldowns/ (5 files): oRA_Cooldowns - set svn:eol-style LF`
`04:46.43`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r6930 10oRA_Durability/ (3 files): oRA_Durability - set svn:eol-style LF`
`04:47.56`	`*** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-157-101-25.owb.bellsouth.net)`
`04:49.16`	`Arrowmaster`	`is there a way to clear all the details for one item from kci_items?`
`04:49.41`	`haste`	`[Wobin]: Prey had the portal stuff first btw :p`
`04:49.50`	`[Wobin]`	`yeah?`
`04:49.53`	`[Wobin]`	`It's still a cool concept`
`04:50.14`	`haste`	`Portals have a major role in Prey ;D`
`04:51.37`	`haste`	`[Wobin]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPbCLXSyZi4`
`04:53.54`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
`04:54.09`	`[Wobin]`	`but they're not the major singlyar gmaeplay focus`
`04:54.32`	`[Wobin]`	`I think Valve have done it better`
`05:02.58`	`haste`	`http://www.vgb.no/138/perma/87394/ << I want that wall :<`
`05:08.01`	`Kyahx`	`DotT ftw`
`05:08.13`	`Kyahx`	`I loved that game`
`05:08.53`	`haste`	`I still have the 8 floppy discs!`
`05:09.23`	`Kyahx`	`=D`
`05:09.40`	`Kyahx`	`Ok, so I have a vertical status bar. When I set a value, it moves down =/`
`05:09.47`	`Kyahx`	`anyone have experiance with status bars?`
`05:10.19`	`haste`	`then your value is lower then the max?`
`05:10.32`	`Kyahx`	`No`
`05:10.38`	`Kyahx`	`the min/max is 0,100 right now`
`05:10.45`	`Kyahx`	`if I set the value to 50`
`05:10.56`	`Kyahx`	`the texture seems to move down half way`
`05:11.05`	`Kyahx`	`(so I see the top half of the texture, not the bottom half)`
`05:11.08`	`haste`	`ah, you have to use a background also`
`05:11.36`	`Kyahx`	`allright`
`05:11.44`	`Kyahx`	`that will "anchor" the texture so to speak?`
`05:12.07`	`haste`	`yes`
`05:14.41`	`Iceroth`	`hmh.. any dhud users here?`
`05:16.57`	`haste`	`aaw, oRA errors on chinese clients`
`05:22.09`	`Kyahx`	`Iceroth: I'm tearing dhud apart right now :P`
`05:24.10`	`Kyahx`	`haste: adding a background seemed to do nothing =(`
`05:27.05`	`Iceroth`	`just downlaoded it.. i have to admit, it looks good :P`
`05:27.43`	`Kyahx`	`Yea, but he officially quit it =/`
`05:28.00`	`Kyahx`	`so, I'm going to steal his textures and see what I can do :P`
`05:32.23`	`Kyahx`	`=( Odd, he dosent even seem to use a StatusBar frame type...`
`05:33.58`	`Iceroth`	`so basically.. if i'd swap to bold font and make bars round, ppl would rejoice?`
`05:34.10`	`Kyahx`	`dhud has really nice textures`
`05:34.16`	`Kyahx`	`thats what people love about it :P`
`05:34.37`	`Kyahx`	`ironicly: thats why he got pissed and closed the project, people were stealing his textures`
`05:34.59`	`Kyahx`	`and the public death of DHUD will cause the texture theivery to increase, haha`
`05:35.31`	`Iceroth`	`"Because of People only change some Textures and do a Branch of DHUD without my Permisson."`
`05:35.47`	`haste`	`shrugs`
`05:35.54`	`haste`	`why can't people see that it's only positive?`
`05:35.59`	`Iceroth`	`i understood that as some took his code, made their own textures and claimed it as their's own`
`05:36.08`	`haste`	`hey, if someone does a branch of my addon - I'm just glad`
`05:37.07`	`haste`	`okey, where is the logic here: Your a mage, who wants to area grind`
`05:37.09`	`Kyahx`	`shrug`
`05:37.15`	`Kyahx`	`its still the best looking HUD out there imo`
`05:37.16`	`haste`	`so you attack the FIRST rogue you see, which is one level below you`
`05:37.23`	`haste`	`WHAT dod you think will happen next?`
`05:37.34`	`Kyahx`	`more rogues appear?`
`05:37.35`	`haste`	`s/dod/do/`
`05:37.36`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`05:37.38`	`haste`	`hehe`
`05:37.53`	`haste`	`I get pissed and I'll take my revenge as soon as my sprint is up :p`
`05:37.59`	`haste`	`since frost mages are a real pita`
`05:38.25`	`Kyahx`	`Iceroth: you use verticle status-bars with IceHUD don't you?`
`05:38.39`	`Iceroth`	`no`
`05:38.43`	`haste`	`I'm a PvP carebare as long as people don't attack me :p`
`05:39.07`	`Iceroth`	`i tried that but can't remember why it didn't work`
`05:39.45`	`Kyahx`	`becuase when I set it to 50% the texture moves down, anchored at the top :P`
`05:40.03`	`Iceroth`	`could have been something like that..`
`05:40.19`	`Iceroth`	`that it didn't show part of the texture but rather moved the texture`
`05:40.24`	`Kyahx`	`yea`
`05:40.29`	`Kyahx`	`thats what I'm stuck on right now =/`
`05:40.37`	`Kyahx`	`Obviously, a statusbar isn't going to work`
`05:41.13`	`Iceroth`	`check SetTexCoord`
`05:41.20`	`Iceroth`	`that's what i'm using`
`05:41.28`	`Iceroth`	`and for god's sake, don't aske me how it really works`
`05:41.42`	`Iceroth`	`trial & error & horror`
`05:42.21`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`05:42.45`	`Kyahx`	`trying to write my own HUD is probley beating a dead horse`
`05:42.47`	`Iceroth`	`only thing that bothers me with round bars is that imo the end of the bar should be angled instead of flat line`
`05:42.52`	`Kyahx`	`but some horses just don't learn the first time around.`
`05:43.31`	`Iceroth`	`ie. when the bar is like 90% full, it should be something like \ (left side) instead of -`
`05:43.48`	`Iceroth`	`and that's a pain to do`
`05:43.50`	`Kyahx`	`eh, seems hard to do`
`05:44.20`	`Iceroth`	`most likely possible with that settexcoord but i kinda slept through all my matrix courses so...`
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`05:44.40`	`Sole`	`hey fritti`
`05:47.59`	`[Wobin]`	`ckknight: You about?`
`05:48.11`	`[Wobin]`	`You should post a link to the Fubar2 docs on the forum`
`05:48.16`	`Kyahx`	`StatusBars don't inherit the SetTexCoord function =/`
`05:50.43`	`Iceroth`	`it's Texture method`
`05:52.43`	`Kyahx`	`sigh, this is more work than I want to do`
`05:53.19`	`Kyahx`	`haste: is oRA2 going to be ready for 1.12, or is it a ways off?`
`05:55.36`	`haste`	`I have no idea when 1.12 hits :p`
`05:58.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`do you have any idea how ctraid is going to use sendaddonmessage?`
`05:59.02`	`Kyahx`	`they are sending the same messages as now, useing the CTRA prefix`
`06:00.08`	`Kyahx`	`Its not a huge change, I hacked up a copy of oRA1 to work on 1.12 useing SendAddonMessage and parseing messages with the CTRA prefix`
`06:01.01`	`Kyahx`	`but I'm sure [Ammo] has been busy as hell with BW2, not sure if he's done anything more with oRA2 =(`
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`06:09.45`	`haste`	`he has some new ideas`
`06:21.27`	`CIA-11`	`03sole * r6931 10Soap/ (6 files in 3 dirs):`
`06:21.27`	`CIA-11`	`Soap:`
`06:21.28`	`CIA-11`	`* Added debug statements (turned off by default)`
`06:21.28`	`CIA-11`	`* Soap is now completely localized (now just need the actual localizations)`
`06:21.28`	`CIA-11`	`* Stuff I forgot but Im sure its great!`
`06:22.25`	`Sole`	`ok now you foreigners...get to work and translate Soap ^__^`
`06:22.40`	`ckknight_`	`hey all, back`
`06:22.50`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`06:23.01`	`Cairenn`	`wb ckknight`
`06:23.44`	`ckknight`	`[Wobin], pong`
`06:28.46`	`Sole`	`alright see ya all :)`
`06:29.32`	`kergoth`	`argh, damn tinytip still refuses to obey my scale setting`
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`06:50.25`	`haste`	`tinytip has a mind of it's own`
`06:50.28`	`haste`	`and it doesn't like me`
`07:04.07`	`[Wobin]`	`ckknight: hola`
`07:04.57`	`ckknight`	`what did you want previously? I was out to dinner`
`07:04.58`	`Iceroth`	`for some reason, wow textures hate me`
`07:05.22`	`[Wobin]`	`ah, just a suggestion to post the fact that FuBar2Plugin has docs on the forum =)`
`07:05.59`	`[Wobin]`	`hehe I heard the bigwigs victory fanfare for the first time last night after dealing with Hakkar =)`
`07:06.24`	`[Wobin]`	`Iceroth: =( I know how you feel`
`07:06.40`	`[Wobin]`	`Iceroth: make sure the dimensions are a power of 2, and restart wow each time there's a new one`
`07:06.49`	`Iceroth`	`ah, not that`
`07:06.59`	`Iceroth`	`well, kinda that too`
`07:07.11`	`[Wobin]`	`Textures grief me all the time`
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`07:07.24`	`Iceroth`	`smaller than 4 (or was it 8) pixel textures act really weird`
`07:08.00`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, ping`
`07:08.01`	`Iceroth`	`and almost every time i try to create smooth non-vertical/horizontal line, it looks like it hadn't seen anti-aliasing at all`
`07:08.20`	`[Wobin]`	`PT is still a Ace1 thing, isn't it?`
`07:12.02`	`Iceroth`	`http://iceroth.net/wow/anti-aliasing.jpg <-- teh annoyance`
`07:12.16`	`Iceroth`	`looks perfectly fine in my photoshop`
`07:12.29`	`[Wobin]`	`ah curvy eh?`
`07:12.47`	`[Wobin]`	`maybe make it bigger?`
`07:12.47`	`Iceroth`	`i'm giving in`
`07:12.49`	`[Wobin]`	`and scale it down?`
`07:13.08`	`Iceroth`	`it's 1:1`
`07:13.15`	`[Wobin]`	`bigger for detail, then set the size of the texture`
`07:13.15`	`Iceroth`	`128x256`
`07:13.25`	`Iceroth`	`wow screws something up there`
`07:13.38`	`Iceroth`	`if i add little fade to the sides, it works nicely`
`07:17.08`	`CIA-11`	03ckknight * r6932 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - fixed invalid key to `next' error.
`07:17.17`	`ckknight`	`^-- Tekkub`
`07:22.43`	`[Wobin]`	`bah`
`07:22.48`	`[Wobin]`	`bugsack is griefing me =(`
`07:25.58`	`haste`	`there is no error worse then that one :<`
`07:26.46`	`[Wobin]`	`sure there is`
`07:26.53`	`[Wobin]`	`the one that pulls up a ''`
`07:26.58`	`[Wobin]`	`or`
`07:27.04`	`[Wobin]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:29.14`	`haste`	`I haven't experienced those yet :p`
`07:29.39`	`haste`	`that function nil, expected nil or nil got nil was also nice`
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`07:29.50`	`Worf`	`morning fellow addicts`
`07:30.16`	`ckknight`	`morning, Worf`
`07:30.24`	`ckknight`	`haste, I fixed that :-P`
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`07:32.56`	`haste`	`ckknight: It's by far the best error I've seen ;)`
`07:34.34`	`Worf`	`haste: which one? i'm always eager to see good errors :)`
`07:34.46`	`haste`	`0929.13\| [ haste] that function nil, expected nil or nil got nil was also nice`
`07:35.24`	`teedog`	`eeeep. is it just me or did the latest AceEvent drop fps to single digits?`
`07:36.00`	`ckknight`	`um, it shouldn't've`
`07:36.04`	`ckknight`	`oh, hrm`
`07:36.09`	`ckknight`	`there may be a bug.`
`07:36.15`	`ckknight`	`possible`
`07:36.20`	`ckknight`	`I thought of one, at least`
`07:36.35`	`teedog`	`i seemed to be getting lots of errors`
`07:36.45`	`teedog`	`but i couldn't check cause the game effectively locked up with 1fps`
`07:36.53`	`ckknight`	`hrm.`
`07:36.55`	`ckknight`	`how odd`
`07:37.01`	`ckknight`	`yea, lemme fix the bug I'm thinking of`
`07:37.11`	`ckknight`	`(triggering an event from another event)`
`07:37.45`	`teedog`	`i'm in a raid if that helps`
`07:38.07`	`teedog`	`(svn update and /rl between pulls ftl :P)`
`07:39.42`	`teedog`	`frames.lua:411: stack overflow`
`07:39.46`	`teedog`	`is that AceEvents?`
`07:40.00`	`ckknight`	`not to my knowledge, but it could be caused by it`
`07:40.04`	`ckknight`	`hang on, I'm fixing`
`07:41.47`	`Kameril`	`is AceDB's GetAceOptionsDataTable method intended for us to use? i notice its not on the wiki while i was looking through the lua, tried feeding it in to dewdrop but didn't get very far`
`07:43.01`	`Worf`	`Kameril: i'm absolutely new to dewtrop, but ... why would you want to do that?`
`07:43.21`	`Kameril`	`set up a gui for profile switching`
`07:43.29`	`Worf`	`you do fill the table yourself,... you should know the table`
`07:43.33`	`Worf`	`uh`
`07:43.53`	`Worf`	`... and i did think dewdrop would be a gui for profile switching :D`
`07:44.08`	`ckknight`	`Kameril, check out Dewdrop :InjectAceOptionsTable`
`07:44.28`	`Kameril`	`i tried that, but i'm not entirely sure how to use it`
`07:46.19`	`Worf`	`i can just say that for me there was: 1) see in XRS how cool the menu is, 2) decide to try it, 3) after 10 minutes of reading docu and adding 3 lines to my addon i had a working menu.`
`07:46.27`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6933 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - bugfix, moved to internal compost system`
`07:46.34`	`ckknight`	`teedog, please test?`
`07:46.41`	`teedog`	`okiedokie`
`07:46.47`	`Worf`	`and everytime something doesn't work the way i like, i tell ckknight :D`
`07:46.57`	`ckknight`	`pretty much.`
`07:47.23`	`teedog`	`ckknight: updating now gimme a few minutes`
`07:47.29`	`ckknight`	`that's the natural ebb and flow`
`07:47.32`	`ckknight`	`alright, teedog`
`07:50.04`	`Kameril`	`:InjectAceOptionsTable(handler, options) handler would be self in this case i believe, and options would be the return from GetAceOptionsDataTable?`
`07:50.46`	`ckknight`	`no, you don't ever call GetAceOptionsDataTable manually`
`07:50.52`	`ckknight`	`options is _your_ options table`
`07:50.57`	`ckknight`	`for your addon`
`07:51.28`	`Kameril`	`thats what i was asking, in a round-a-bout way i guess, if GetAceOptionsDataTable was intended for that`
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`07:54.13`	`teedog`	`ckknight: i think the problem is fixed. no more errors or fps drop`
`07:54.27`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`07:54.39`	`ckknight`	`Kameril, you never call :GetAceOptionsDataTable() manually`
`07:57.55`	`Kameril`	`right, i understand that now, how do you recommend building a profile selection menu for dewdrop then? just manually doing char/realm ect?`
`08:03.41`	`ckknight`	`did it just not registere when I said to use InjectAceOptionsTable?`
`08:04.09`	`Neronix`	`ckknight: In my lib, I have a local function that checks Healthstimator.foo (Healthstimator is the object I use for the lib in the file). Would that work for all instances once I do Healthstimator = AceLibrary(MAJOR,MINOR) at the end of the file?`
`08:04.25`	`vhaarr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:04.42`	`ckknight`	`actually, its better to do Healthstimator = self in the activate function?`
`08:04.43`	`vhaarr`	`you just do InjectAceOptionsTabe(self, self.options)`
`08:04.51`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
`08:04.52`	`[Wobin]`	`[18:03-5]: AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:342: AceOO-2.0: AceLocale-2.0 is not an appropriate mixin`
`08:04.52`	`[Wobin]`	<evaluated>: in function `error'
`08:04.52`	`[Wobin]`	AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:106: in function `error'
`08:04.52`	`[Wobin]`	`AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.lua:903: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.lua:894>`
`08:04.54`	`[Wobin]`	AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.lua:935: in function `Classpool'
`08:04.56`	`[Wobin]`	AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:342: in function `?'
`08:04.58`	`[Wobin]`	`MrPlow\MrPlow.lua:356: in main chunk`
`08:05.00`	`[Wobin]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:05.02`	`[Wobin]`	`Why isn't AceLocale an appropriate mixin?`
`08:05.04`	`ckknight`	`[Wobin], AceLocale is not a mixin.`
`08:05.06`	`[Wobin]`	`ah`
`08:05.10`	`ckknight`	`it's a library`
`08:05.21`	`[Wobin]`	`ah, local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.0")?`
`08:05.37`	`ckknight`	`actually, local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.0"):new("MrPlow")`
`08:05.44`	`ckknight`	`and you'll be golden`
`08:05.45`	`[Wobin]`	`gotcha`
`08:06.29`	`Neronix`	`ckknight: I'll try that, thanks`
`08:07.03`	`ckknight`	`yep`
`08:07.07`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: what is the difference between FeedAceOptionsTable and InjectAceOptionsTable? It's not clear to me from the API docs.`
`08:07.30`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, Feed is a translator from table to dewdrop code`
`08:07.40`	`ckknight`	`Inject injects data into said table`
`08:08.22`	`Kameril`	`sorry, i understand the InjectAceOptionsTable, but i don't understand where i get self.options or whatever, the list of profile i assume...`
`08:09.03`	`Kameril`	`or is that what it does?`
`08:09.14`	`Kameril`	`the wiki doc on it is very unclear to me`
`08:09.53`	`ckknight`	`have you used the AceOptions tables with Dewdrop before?`
`08:11.28`	`Kameril`	`a table i created as a test, then fed in to dewdrop yeah`
`08:11.49`	`ckknight`	`the options argument would be that table.`
`08:11.49`	`Kameril`	`i started working on mine w/just addline, not very famaliar with the aceoptions tables`
`08:17.27`	`Neronix`	`Is this a proper way of optionally using AceEvent through an external func? if major == "AceEvent-2.0" then instance:embed(self)?`
`08:18.39`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`08:19.17`	`Neronix`	`ok, thanks`
`08:20.30`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r6934 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Loatheb.lua: BigWigs: Loatheb: self.profile -> self.db.profile`
`08:23.45`	`Neronix`	`http://ace.pastey.net/127-1yey - Does this looke ok? I'm trying to get events done the old fashioned way if AceEvent isn't present`
`08:23.59`	`Iceroth`	`aaaauuuuuuuugh`
`08:24.11`	`Iceroth`	`my texture problems were caused by that stupid tool`
`08:24.17`	`Iceroth`	`nothing wrong with wow`
`08:24.28`	`Neronix`	`s/ke/k/`
`08:24.32`	`Neronix`	`-_-`
`08:24.45`	`Iceroth`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-1977-1-wowimage-blp.html is much better if you are converting png->blp`
`08:24.52`	`Neronix`	`Bleh, people's bad english is rubbing off on me xD`
`08:25.03`	`Neronix`	`s/'s/s'/`
`08:25.36`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, either use AceEvent or don't use it`
`08:26.26`	`Neronix`	`Why?`
`08:26.56`	`Neronix`	`I'd rather not have to tell people to get AceOO and AceEvent too`
`08:30.15`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r6935 10BabbleLib/Babble-Boss-2.0/Babble-Boss-2.0.lua: Babble-Boss-2.0: Fixed Thane Korthazz -> Thane Korth'azz.`
`08:31.09`	`vhaarr`	`hrmph, I'll fix bboss1, too`
`08:32.20`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r6936 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs (Naxxramas): self.profile -> self.db.profile for Horsemen`
`08:32.40`	`[Ammo]`	`saw your commit so did a grep -r :)`
`08:32.53`	`haste`	`<3 grep`
`08:33.00`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: cool`
`08:33.01`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r6937 10BabbleLib/Boss/BabbleLib-Boss.lua: Babble-Boss-1: Fixed Thane Korthazz -> Thane Korth'azz.`
`08:33.27`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, so don't use AceEvent at all, then`
`08:34.29`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r6938 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs: Horsemen: Thane Korthazz -> Thane Korth'azz.`
`08:34.51`	`Iceroth`	`well.. if you want my opinion, make it all ace and screw others`
`08:36.10`	`[Wobin]`	`hm`
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`08:36.58`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r6939 10BigWigs/AQ40/BugFamily.lua: BigWigs: BugFamily: Fixed defeated spam.`
`08:37.00`	`ckknight`	`Iceroth, yea, that's how I'd do it, too`
`08:37.02`	`ckknight`	`hey Smirky`
`08:37.09`	`Smirky`	`yo`
`08:37.23`	`[Wobin]`	`if I was using AceLocale for translation of my chatcommands, would I use: args = { [L"bankstack"] = { type = "execute", desc = L"Bank stack style", func = "bss" }}?`
`08:37.24`	`Iceroth`	`would any of those people who think discord is the best there is, switch from telo's mobhealth to something else?`
`08:39.17`	`[Ammo]`	`wobin: that looks correct`
`08:39.29`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r6940 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Heigan.lua: BigWigs: Heigan: Hopefully fixed overlapping bars.`
`08:39.36`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: mind checking that heigan commit?`
`08:39.40`	`[Ammo]`	`yarr`
`08:39.45`	`Soltanis`	`i would suspect anyone who thinks discord is the best will go with what ever works with discord :-)`
`08:40.04`	`[Ammo]`	`should do it`
`08:40.11`	`vhaarr`	`cool`
`08:40.12`	`[Ammo]`	`but bars should never overlap in the first place meh`
`08:40.14`	`[Ammo]`	`ohwell`
`08:40.20`	`[Ammo]`	`almost done with candy grouping`
`08:40.25`	`[Ammo]`	`1 function left to fill in`
`08:40.41`	`vhaarr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:41.53`	`Iceroth`	`is there a way to show specific part of the texture? ie. i have 100x100 texture and i want to show 2x100 part, at position 0, 50?`
`08:42.47`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: [19:33-33] BigWigs\Core.lua:292: AceModuleCore-2.0: Cannot find module "Noth the Plaguebringer"., any known problems with the TargetMonitor after the Core change for registering modules?`
`08:43.05`	`[Ammo]`	`probably`
`08:43.13`	`[Ammo]`	`pester tekkub for it`
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`08:44.51`	`haste`	`good timing [Ammo] ;)`
`08:45.08`	`haste`	`I just dinged L58, so I'm going to code on oCD now :p`
`08:46.32`	`vhaarr`	`eh, wtf`
`08:46.41`	`Neronix`	`http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/10042/`
`08:46.48`	`Neronix`	`~jawdrop`
`08:46.54`	`vhaarr`	`wonder what I changed in the Scan function in Horsemen`
`08:47.53`	`vhaarr`	`hahaha "How's your e-penis now?"`
`08:51.08`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`08:51.09`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`08:51.33`	`Neronix`	`http://dsmeet.com/news/n64-exclusive - Interview with the "NINTENDO SIXY FOOOOOOOOUUR!!!!" kid`
`08:58.06`	`ckknight`	`alright, now to code object serialization into AceComm`
`09:00.49`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r6941 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua: BigWigs: Razuvious: Use a shield wall icon for the shield wall bar.`
`09:04.59`	`ckknight`	`ah, hell, Honorable kill diminishing returns change with 1.12`
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`09:06.54`	`Neronix`	`ckknight: Haven't there always been diminishing returns?`
`09:07.05`	`ckknight`	`yes, but the rates changed`
`09:07.05`	`FISKER_Q`	`yes`
`09:07.09`	`FISKER_Q`	`that's why he say it's changed`
`09:07.17`	`FISKER_Q`	`it's 10% each kill instead of 25%`
`09:07.19`	`Neronix`	`I see`
`09:07.52`	`FISKER_Q`	`or atleast that's how they have it on the test server right now`
`09:08.27`	`ckknight`	`it's in the patch notes, so I'll take their word for it`
`09:09.54`	`Neronix`	`Aw fuck`
`09:10.03`	`Neronix`	`my server's in the same battlegroup as Magtheridon :<`
`09:10.18`	`Neronix`	`Thank god I don't pvp`
`09:11.44`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6942 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: Glory - for 1.12, diminishing returns is 1/10 instead of 1/4`
`09:14.40`	`*** join/#wowace FtH\|Eagle (i=eagle@HSI-KBW-085-216-057-137.hsi.kabelbw.de)`
`09:15.12`	`Soltanis`	`i can't work out how the decided the battlegroups`
`09:15.16`	`ckknight`	`hey FtH\|Eagle`
`09:15.19`	`ckknight`	`Soltanis, timezones`
`09:15.22`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`good morning :)`
`09:15.28`	`ckknight`	`servers that are close together`
`09:15.30`	`ckknight`	`so minimal lag`
`09:15.34`	`Fritti`	`morning people`
`09:15.39`	`Soltanis`	`they are all in the same place`
`09:15.45`	`Soltanis`	`in ther french telia datacenter`
`09:15.53`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r6943 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua:`
`09:15.53`	`CIA-11`	`CandyBar:`
`09:15.53`	`CIA-11`	`* Grouping added, see code for docs. yeah yeah wiki meh.`
`09:15.53`	`CIA-11`	`* Fading added, Completion function added`
`09:16.07`	`Soltanis`	`oh sorry, ok i rephrase`
`09:16.16`	`Soltanis`	`i can't work out how the decided the europe battlegroups`
`09:16.18`	`Fritti`	`go go [Ammo]`
`09:16.25`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r6944 10EyeCandy/EyeCandy.lua:`
`09:16.26`	`CIA-11`	`EyeCandy:`
`09:16.26`	`CIA-11`	`* Updated to show grouping and fading`
`09:16.35`	`ckknight`	`Soltanis, oh, I dunno, then`
`09:16.41`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`[Ammo]: is fading what I think it is?`
`09:17.11`	`[Ammo]`	`you can do: self:SetCandybarFade("mybar", .5)`
`09:17.17`	`[Ammo]`	`and it'll fade out after completion in .5 seconds`
`09:17.19`	`Soltanis`	`maybe group 9 are spanish realms`
`09:17.38`	`[Ammo]`	`FtH\|Eagle: I still need to fix the onclick`
`09:17.47`	`[Ammo]`	`and passing -1 to fading should make it stay in screen`
`09:17.51`	`[Ammo]`	`but I'm not done with that yet`
`09:18.04`	`[Ammo]`	`grouping works though :)`
`09:18.30`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`anyway, it's going to be working soon, I'm happy :P`
`09:18.49`	`[Ammo]`	`check out eyecandy for an example`
`09:18.51`	`haste`	`yay for grouping!`
`09:19.03`	`[Ammo]`	`default behaviour for a group is growdown`
`09:19.10`	`[Ammo]`	`so no need to set the growth if you're only growing down`
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`09:19.14`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`Is there a function to change the order in the group?`
`09:19.18`	`[Ammo]`	`no`
`09:19.23`	`[Ammo]`	`it's a bit random atm`
`09:19.27`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`k`
`09:19.28`	`[Ammo]`	`but I am working on that`
`09:19.44`	`[Ammo]`	`I will add a grouporder thing`
`09:20.12`	`[Ammo]`	`for now this works ;)`
`09:20.17`	`[Ammo]`	`good luck with it`
`09:20.24`	`[Ammo]`	`time to do some stuff in the house`
`09:20.33`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`09:24.50`	`haste`	[Ammo]: [11:23-2902] CandyBar\CandyBar-2.0.lua:1013: attempt to index local `timertextcolor' (a nil value) << me or you :D ?
`09:25.44`	`haste`	`oh wait, it might be me :p`
`09:26.17`	`haste`	`Yepp, was me :p`
`09:28.51`	`Iceroth`	`http://iceroth.net/wow/teaser.jpg`
`09:28.58`	`Iceroth`	`how's that for you dhud fans?`
`09:29.15`	`ckknight`	`pants-creaming-tacular`
`09:29.27`	`ckknight`	`though a bit too thick for my tastes :-P`
`09:29.34`	`Iceroth`	`adjustable :)`
`09:29.42`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 07Neronix * r6945 10Healthstimator/Healthstimator-1.0/Healthstimator-1.0.lua:`
`09:29.42`	`CIA-11`	`Healthstimator-1.0 - K, it's done. Ready to test later`
`09:29.42`	`CIA-11`	`- What? "Is this going to work?" !?`
`09:29.43`	`CIA-11`	`- I certainly don't think so ;P`
`09:29.49`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`09:29.57`	`vhaarr`	`Neronix: magtheridon EU?`
`09:30.16`	`Neronix`	`vhaarr: Yep`
`09:30.20`	`vhaarr`	`Neronix: I'm there ;)`
`09:30.28`	`vhaarr`	`ally or horde?`
`09:30.31`	`Neronix`	`/cower`
`09:30.33`	`Neronix`	`Horde`
`09:30.36`	`vhaarr`	`ally :P`
`09:30.44`	`vhaarr`	`my warlock will find you`
`09:31.18`	`Iceroth`	`http://iceroth.net/wow/teaser2.jpg`
`09:32.39`	`ckknight`	`ah, neat`
`09:32.41`	`Smirky`	`What's Healthstimator?`
`09:32.48`	`Iceroth`	`mobhealth3`
`09:32.53`	`Smirky`	`Aced?`
`09:33.16`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`09:33.22`	`Smirky`	`MobHealth is tooo heavy`
`09:33.28`	`vhaarr`	`MH2 Aced with no API compability.`
`09:33.28`	`Smirky`	`gonna try it now`
`09:34.44`	`haste`	`Neronix: what editor do you use?`
`09:34.45`	`Soltanis`	`are there any aced alternatives to spell alert?`
`09:34.52`	`vhaarr`	`Soltanis: witchhunt`
`09:35.00`	`Soltanis`	`ty`
`09:35.02`	`Iceroth`	`and also soap`
`09:35.24`	`vhaarr`	`that's CEnemyCastbars`
`09:35.29`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`Iceroth: take the texture from dhud cough :P`
`09:35.37`	`Iceroth`	`:P`
`09:35.58`	`Iceroth`	`though my energy ticker is going to break now :\|`
`09:36.29`	`Iceroth`	`it's been ages since i used photoshop, i think it kinda shows from my textures :)`
`09:38.07`	`Neronix`	`Smirky: It's a lib`
`09:38.18`	`Neronix`	`Unit frame mods can use it`
`09:38.45`	`Neronix`	`And I have a bad feeling that I'll have to rewrite it a 3rd time`
`09:39.14`	`Iceroth`	`no offence but i'm going to wait for the stable version ;)`
`09:39.28`	`Neronix`	`Understandable ^^`
`09:40.39`	`haste`	`Neronix: I've forced LF eol on oUF2 now, so you can edit it safely :p`
`09:41.22`	`Soltanis`	`hehe`
`09:42.04`	`Smirky`	`All Unit Frames?`
`09:46.46`	`Neronix`	`Smirky: They'd need to add support explicitly`
`09:46.58`	`Neronix`	`but I've just came up with another idea`
`09:47.44`	`Neronix`	`about how it'll work. Should allow for MH/MH2 compat again and shoul stop things blowing up with multiple clients (e.g., a unit frame and a hud)`
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`09:48.20`	`Neronix`	`haste: I think I've found the option in scite to stop autoconverting too ^^`
`09:49.04`	`haste`	`my scite doesn't autoconvert ;)`
`09:50.16`	`ckknight`	`woot!`
`09:50.28`	`ckknight`	`you can now send AceOO objects across the stream with AceComm :-)`
`09:50.34`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: http://ace.pastebin.ca/116527 :D`
`09:50.42`	`ckknight`	`beat that, Sky!`
`09:51.09`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: hah, that's excellent`
`09:51.10`	`[Ammo]`	`bad idea vhaarr`
`09:51.18`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: works for me?`
`09:51.40`	`[Ammo]`	`you register a group per module`
`09:51.42`	`[Ammo]`	`that's bad`
`09:51.45`	`[Ammo]`	`just leave it for now`
`09:51.47`	`[Ammo]`	`I'll fix it`
`09:52.06`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: I know I do, it was what I intended`
`09:52.21`	`vhaarr`	`non-boss BW modules can have bars, too`
`09:52.35`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`ckknight: how are you doing this?`
`09:52.48`	`ckknight`	`it's pretty light, too. It costs as much as sending a table across, plus the name of the class`
`09:52.48`	`[Ammo]`	`you don't understand, there is 1 bar anchor in BW, and thus 1 bar group`
`09:52.55`	`vhaarr`	`ah, of course`
`09:53.05`	`[Ammo]`	`but grouping isn't debugged properly`
`09:53.11`	`[Ammo]`	`so leave it out for now`
`09:53.17`	`vhaarr`	`I just fired of 5 bars here without problems`
`09:53.24`	`ckknight`	`FtH\|Eagle, basically, { object:GetLibraryVersion(), object:Serialize() } gets sent across the stream`
`09:53.43`	`ckknight`	`actually, it's object.class:GetLibraryVersion()`
`09:53.54`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`and how are you serializing the class?`
`09:54.00`	`ckknight`	`it's received, the class is checked, and then AceLibrary(version):Deserialize(...)`
`09:54.11`	`ckknight`	`FtH\|Eagle, a class defines two methods`
`09:54.20`	`ckknight`	`a static method, :Deserialize(...)`
`09:54.36`	`ckknight`	`and a normal method, :Seriailize(), which returns values`
`09:54.45`	`ckknight`	`Serialize*`
`09:54.48`	`ckknight`	`e.g.`
`09:54.54`	`ckknight`	`for the class Hand`
`09:55.01`	`ckknight`	`function Hand:Serialize() return self.value end`
`09:55.08`	`ckknight`	`err`
`09:55.14`	`ckknight`	`Hand.prototype:Serialize*`
`09:55.35`	`ckknight`	`and function Hand:Deserialize(value) local o = self:new(); o.value = value; return o end`
`09:55.46`	`ckknight`	`in-between, it's sent across the stream`
`09:55.58`	`ckknight`	`you can have up to 20 bits of data describing an object`
`09:56.08`	`ckknight`	`you can also just make a table and send that across`
`09:56.18`	`vhaarr`	`so these can be sent to other clients, too, right?`
`09:56.19`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`ah alright, I thought it's all done automatically and sends every data across the stream, wondered how ;)`
`09:56.24`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, exactly.`
`09:56.34`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: maybe there should be another AceLibrary field called serialVersion, then`
`09:56.48`	`ckknight`	`serialVersion?`
`09:56.54`	`vhaarr`	`because the structure is not guaranteed to change between library versions`
`09:57.05`	`ckknight`	`ah, I guess I could send the minor version across...`
`09:57.11`	`ckknight`	`but actually`
`09:57.13`	`vhaarr`	`an older version of a library still might be able to deserialize the data from a newer library`
`09:57.14`	`ckknight`	`it shouldn't matter`
`09:57.23`	`ckknight`	`since it should change major versions if it changes structure`
`09:57.27`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`[Ammo]: normale fading isn't done yet, or? because it looks a little bit weird for me`
`09:57.33`	`ckknight`	`that's what major versions are for, vhaarr ;-)`
`09:57.44`	`vhaarr`	`the library author should know that and just bump serialVersion when needed`
`09:58.00`	`ckknight`	`major version is sufficient, I'd say.`
`09:58.05`	`[Ammo]`	`FtH\|Eagle?`
`09:58.08`	`[Ammo]`	`works fine for me`
`09:58.18`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: okay`
`09:58.29`	`[Ammo]`	`FtH\|Eagle: describe the problem`
`09:58.54`	`haste`	`Your Shadow Bolt was resisted by Elder Mottled Boar.`
`09:59.00`	`haste`	`that's a L7 mob`
`09:59.11`	`haste`	`I feel lucky`
`09:59.19`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I set it to 2s`
`10:00.04`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`after the time runs out, the bar is nearly completely faded after the time, but the text fades smootly`
`10:00.09`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`and the icon is gone instant`
`10:00.16`	`[Ammo]`	`can't fade icons`
`10:00.19`	`[Ammo]`	`so I just hide them instantly`
`10:00.31`	`[Ammo]`	`or rather I don't know how to, so I hide them instantly :)`
`10:00.37`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`setalpha?`
`10:00.49`	`[Ammo]`	`give me an example and I'll fix that`
`10:00.56`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`icon:SetAlpha(0.5)`
`10:01.00`	`[Ammo]`	`ah`
`10:01.01`	`[Ammo]`	`ok`
`10:01.04`	`[Ammo]`	`will fix now`
`10:01.04`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`should work`
`10:01.55`	`[Ammo]`	`bar and text fade as fast`
`10:02.11`	`[Ammo]`	`background is .5 alpha to start with or someting`
`10:02.22`	`[Ammo]`	`so .5 -> 0 in 2 seconds, wheras text is 1 alpha so 1 -> 0 in 2 seconds`
`10:02.26`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6946 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua:`
`10:02.27`	`CIA-11`	`AceComm - now can send AceOO objects across the stream if three things are satisfied:`
`10:02.27`	`CIA-11`	`1. It is registered with AceLibrary (to identify it by major version)`
`10:02.27`	`CIA-11`	`2. It has an instance method :Serialize(), which returns values`
`10:02.27`	`CIA-11`	`3. It has a static method :Deserialize(...), which takes values from :Serialize()`
`10:02.28`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`why that?`
`10:02.29`	`CIA-11`	`Basically, object.class:Deserialize(object:Serialize()) is equivalent to object. (Though not reference equal)`
`10:02.34`	`[Ammo]`	`because that's how I do it`
`10:02.47`	`[Ammo]`	`I don't want to calculate 5 different gradients to fade every frame`
`10:02.49`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`it doesn't look right, the bar is nearly faded when it starts, and I set it to 5s`
`10:03.37`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`why computing the gradient? alpha value should be enough?`
`10:03.50`	`[Ammo]`	`I have to calculate the alpha don't I?`
`10:03.57`	`[Ammo]`	`right now I calculate 1 modifier`
`10:04.01`	`[Ammo]`	`and apply it to all alpha's`
`10:04.17`	`[Ammo]`	`if I were to do it your way I'd have to calculate a modifier per alpha`
`10:04.37`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`but the bar isn't at 0.5 when it starts fading`
`10:04.42`	`[Ammo]`	`it is`
`10:04.43`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`it's at 0.2 or 0.1`
`10:04.45`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`not for me`
`10:04.48`	`[Ammo]`	`oh ok well .2 then`
`10:04.59`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`you can't even see it`
`10:05.00`	`[Ammo]`	`it starts to fade from .2 -> 0 in 2 seconds or 5 seconds or whatever you say`
`10:05.21`	`[Ammo]`	`maybe I should make it fade slow at start and faster towards the end`
`10:05.34`	`[Ammo]`	`but I'm not going to calculate lots of different multipliers`
`10:05.41`	`[Ammo]`	`that would slow things down too much`
`10:08.07`	`[Ammo]`	`I'll try and figure out a way to make it fade smoother when alpha isn't at 1 to start with`
`10:08.10`	`[Ammo]`	`for now use this ;)`
`10:08.11`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`default bgcolor is 0.25, but it definately doesn't start there`
`10:08.30`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`ah now I get it`
`10:10.13`	`ckknight`	`I feel that AnduinLothar is trying to deracinate my work`
`10:10.36`	`haste`	`[Ammo]: Is your arg check on SetCandyBarTimeLeft correct?`
`10:11.02`	`haste`	core.lua:59: CandyBar-2.0: Bad argument #2 to `SetCandyBarTimeLeft' (string expected, got number)
`10:12.44`	`[Ammo]`	`SetCandyBarTimeLeft( "myid", 34)`
`10:12.48`	`[Ammo]`	`don't forget the id :)`
`10:12.50`	`Soltanis`	`my chat boxes still randomly disappear :-(`
`10:13.28`	`haste`	`[Ammo]: Actually it isn't that, it's a typo from my side :(`
`10:13.43`	`haste`	`my right shift isn't working as intended :p`
`10:13.56`	`[Ammo]`	`everytime you get a bard argument thing`
`10:14.00`	`[Ammo]`	`it's your own fault :)`
`10:14.04`	`[Ammo]`	`I tested those functions :)`
`10:15.16`	`haste`	`hehe, you never know :p`
`10:20.28`	`Thrae`	`ckknight vs AL, ouch`
`10:20.39`	`Thrae`	`Haha`
`10:21.03`	`ckknight`	`thing is, he's a douche`
`10:21.40`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r6947 10oCD/ (core.lua hooks.lua items.lua):`
`10:21.40`	`CIA-11`	`oCD:`
`10:21.40`	`CIA-11`	`- Updated to exploit the new CandyBar functions.`
`10:21.40`	`CIA-11`	`- Should work on trinket cooldows also.`
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`10:23.48`	`Neronix`	`AL gone emo again? :O`
`10:25.03`	`ckknight`	`he doesn't agree with my puppy-saturated talks, methinks`
`10:26.13`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`who is al?`
`10:26.57`	`ckknight`	`AnduinLothar`
`10:27.03`	`ckknight`	`in #wowi-lounge`
`10:27.19`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`mh, I know the name, but don't know why`
`10:27.20`	`ckknight`	`I'm arguing that sending AceOO instances across the stream is worthwhile`
`10:27.25`	`ckknight`	`author of Cosmos`
`10:27.28`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`aaah`
`10:27.29`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`ok :)`
`10:28.06`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I used cosmos a long time ago, when I played wow in the beta test`
`10:28.11`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`got too much errors :P`
`10:29.15`	`ckknight`	`I can't believe the author of Cosmos doesn't understand OOP`
`10:29.27`	`ckknight`	`it's been around only since the 60s...`
`10:29.28`	`[Ammo]`	`maybe you should use the ag_UnitFrmaes example`
`10:29.38`	`[Ammo]`	`every unitframe is an OO object inheritting from UnitFrame or something`
`10:29.47`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`is he saying that he really doesn't know what it is or only in the context of wow/lua programming?`
`10:29.48`	`[Ammo]`	`if he doesn't like dogs :p`
`10:30.29`	`ckknight`	`<AnduinLothar> yup, you got it. OOP makes my head hurt.`
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`10:34.13`	ag`	ckknight: attempt to call method `RegisterBucketEvent´(a nil value)
`10:34.46`	`Neronix`	`I don't exactly blame him for being slightly disgruntled with AceComm`
`10:34.49`	`ckknight`	`noes!`
`10:35.01`	`ckknight`	`it surpassed Sky a while ago`
`10:35.02`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`10:35.12`	`Neronix`	`Any of us would think "ZOMG!? Some guy with a cool name just recreated and improved on in a week what I took 18 months to do!!"`
`10:35.40`	`vhaarr`	`heh, you just can't trust people who don't know/like OOP to make large applications like Cosmos`
`10:36.01`	`ckknight`	`you know the difference between OOP vs. non-OOP projects?`
`10:36.08`	`vhaarr`	`one sucks, the other doesn't`
`10:36.10`	`ckknight`	`maximum 100k lines vs. 10k lines`
`10:36.15`	`ckknight`	`that's it`
`10:36.20`	`ckknight`	`with OOP, it's easier to manage`
`10:36.40`	`ckknight`	`in lua the numbers'd be different`
`10:36.46`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`that's why I stopped maintaining my old addons, since I hate programming in a non-oo way`
`10:36.47`	`ckknight`	`the numbers I gave were Java numbers`
`10:37.25`	`vhaarr`	`I programmed servlets for 6 years, before that I had only worked with Visual Basic :P`
`10:37.45`	`Neronix`	`I've only done serious coding since april`
`10:37.54`	`Neronix`	`before that, was basic, basic ,basic VB`
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`10:38.05`	`Neronix`	`a course designed to be understanded by any old person`
`10:38.09`	`vhaarr`	`well I knew alot of languages but I had only done real work in VB`
`10:38.12`	`Grumpey`	`morning ./`
`10:38.40`	`Iceroth`	`ckknight, does dewdrop do some caching when it pulls values for 'range' type items?`
`10:39.23`	`ckknight`	`not to my knowledge`
`10:39.40`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, I know about 20 languages or so`
`10:39.56`	`Neronix`	`:O`
`10:40.24`	`Tuplad`	`meh`
`10:40.26`	`*** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@sd511586e.adsl.wanadoo.nl)`
`10:40.53`	`Tuplad`	`I tried like all of 'em and stopped when it came to creating your own stuff ;_;`
`10:41.20`	`ckknight`	`I also worked on creating one`
`10:41.28`	`ckknight`	`Tuplad, :-P`
`10:41.47`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 074G * r6948 10MobHealth/:`
`10:41.47`	`CIA-11`	`MobHealth3 - Creating 4G branch. Like the 4G ipod, except it's not really an ipod`
`10:41.47`	`CIA-11`	`- Also known as the I-didn't-expect-this-to-end-up-being-so-damn-complex branch`
`10:42.06`	`Tem`	`ag' you around?`
`10:42.12`	`Neronix`	`I hate the event system`
`10:42.15`	`Neronix`	`I hate Telo`
`10:42.17`	`Neronix`	`and Wyv`
`10:42.18`	`Tuplad`	`ckknight: Hehe :) I liked Python out the ones I tried`
`10:42.20`	`ckknight`	`why?`
`10:42.24`	ag`	`Tem yes`
`10:42.25`	`ckknight`	`Tuplad, I'm a big python fan`
`10:42.25`	`Tuplad`	`Neronix: :O`
`10:42.31`	`ckknight`	`I must be pissing AL off`
`10:42.38`	`Tuplad`	`hah, why ?`
`10:42.51`	`Tem`	ag`, I've lost my ag_UF and I can't get em back
`10:42.58`	`Tuplad`	`Tem: download again ?`
`10:43.09`	ag`	`well you have an error now right`
`10:43.13`	`Tem`	`I svn updated`
`10:43.17`	`ckknight`	`Tuplad, because I keep proving him wrong...`
`10:43.28`	`Tem`	`and deleted my saved vars`
`10:43.29`	ag`	`Tem: when you get an error, stuff doesn't work`
`10:43.30`	`Tuplad`	`ckknight: I joined channel, go on :]`
`10:43.33`	`Tem`	`and restareded wow`
`10:43.36`	`Thrae`	`What's the next instance after Sunken Temple? BRD?`
`10:43.36`	`Tem`	`I don't have an error`
`10:43.41`	`Tuplad`	`Thrae: ye`
`10:43.44`	`Neronix`	`Thrae: Yes`
`10:43.55`	ag`	`Tem: if you updated from the SVN you have an error`
`10:44.05`	ag`	`because something ckk needs to fix I thnk`
`10:44.06`	`Tem`	`haven't gotten it yet`
`10:44.14`	`Thrae`	`Hmm, I'll just have to hope someone needs a healer bad enough to bring along a Level 51 Druid ;)`
`10:44.24`	`Iceroth`	`ckknight, i have group with 'text' option for few presets and then some 'scale' options to adjust them manually - it seems like the values are getting pulled when i open that 'group' only once, so once my preset thing changes the values, 'scale' options do not update unless i close that 'group' and reopen it`
`10:44.27`	`Tuplad`	`Thrae: that's an aight level`
`10:45.43`	`ckknight`	`Iceroth, that's odd, care to paste?`
`10:46.03`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: hm, think the ["Thane Korth'azz"] = "Thane Korth'azz" change could've caused http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1762.msg33757.html#msg33757 ?`
`10:46.52`	`vhaarr`	`do I need to escape ' ?`
`10:47.09`	`Iceroth`	`ckknight, sec, i'll try to minimize the relative lines..`
`10:47.18`	`[Ammo]`	`vhaarr no`
`10:47.19`	`vhaarr`	`hm, ["High Priestess Mar'li"] = "High Priestess Mar'li"`
`10:47.21`	`[Ammo]`	`check the C'Thun locales`
`10:47.23`	`[Ammo]`	`indeed`
`10:47.24`	`vhaarr`	`yeah`
`10:47.34`	`[Ammo]`	`he's using a german client`
`10:47.37`	`[Ammo]`	`and it has no translation`
`10:47.38`	`vhaarr`	`I noticed`
`10:47.39`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, gah, AceLocale bug`
`10:47.46`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: really?`
`10:47.57`	`[Ammo]`	`anyway, outa here again`
`10:48.02`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`[Ammo]: fixed it? :)`
`10:48.21`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: so the reason it hasn't triggered yet is because the other bosses with ' in them have german translations?`
`10:48.31`	`Tuplad`	`~define KISS`
`10:48.34`	`purl`	`Use ~dict for definitions.`
`10:48.38`	`Tuplad`	`~dict KISS`
`10:48.44`	`CIA-11`	`03neronix 074G * r6949 10MobHealth/ (7 files in 4 dirs): MobHealth3 - Fixed folder structure before Mikma notices`
`10:48.48`	`vhaarr`	`or hm`
`10:48.50`	`Tuplad`	`purl: noob, not that`
`10:49.12`	`haste`	`Tuplad: Keep it simple, stupid`
`10:49.20`	`Tuplad`	`haste: xP`
`10:49.33`	`ckknight`	`Keep it simple, Stupid`
`10:49.41`	`Tuplad`	`oh`
`10:51.33`	`Iceroth`	`ckknight, http://ace.pastebin.ca/116583 - hope that makes enough sense`
`10:53.12`	`ckknight`	`Iceroth, hrm, it may be easier for you to commit, then I check it out and see it myself ;-)`
`10:53.20`	`Iceroth`	`i suppose`
`10:54.34`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r6950 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs: Horsemen: Fixed ShieldWall syncs.`
`10:54.37`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, I mean, the has not been converted to "nil" is a bug`
`10:54.40`	`ckknight`	`it should never say nil.`
`10:54.58`	`vhaarr`	`aha`
`10:58.19`	`vhaarr`	`he probably did a svn update in between the commits, so he got the babble changes but not the Horsemen changes`
`10:58.50`	`vhaarr`	`so \|local thane = AceLibrary("Babble-Boss-2.0")("Thane Korthazz")\| triggers it`
`10:58.52`	`vhaarr`	`I can try`
`10:59.17`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6951 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: AceLocale - fix error messages`
`11:00.52`	`vhaarr`	`ckknight: ah, so it shouldn't said "not translated into de-DE" ?`
`11:00.58`	`vhaarr`	`*should've`
`11:01.01`	`ckknight`	`yes.`
`11:01.01`	`haste`	`[Ammo]: What is it that starts the debug thingy in BW2?`
`11:01.25`	`Shyva`	`Test.lua I guess haste, it registers events on init`
`11:01.43`	`haste`	`Shyva: Well, I'm jumping around in Silithus when it happened now :p`
`11:01.45`	`ckknight`	`lol, AL's doing a Sky rewrite`
`11:02.14`	`haste`	`guess it doesn't chek if the source is valid or not :p`
`11:02.42`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6952 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - fixed mixin header`
`11:04.28`	`ckknight`	`AL's going emo...`
`11:04.43`	`Shyva`	`He IS emo, right?`
`11:04.46`	`vhaarr`	`he's probably going to ninja your code and rename it Sky`
`11:04.46`	`Sairen`	`lol`
`11:05.04`	`ckknight`	`vhaarr, this is what cease and desist orders are for.`
`11:05.16`	`Tem`	`where's the ace2 branch of oUF?`
`11:05.37`	`vhaarr`	`Tem: I'll give you 1 guess`
`11:05.38`	`Neronix`	`Tem: /branches/otravi_UnitFrames/otravi/`
`11:05.48`	`Tem`	`thanks`
`11:05.56`	`Neronix`	`np`
`11:06.07`	`ckknight`	ag`, ping
`11:06.18`	ag`	`pong`
`11:06.18`	`ckknight`	ag`, fixed the mixin header, so bucketing should work
`11:06.22`	ag`	`it does`
`11:06.25`	ag`	`I just checked`
`11:06.27`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`11:06.28`	ag`	`thanks`
`11:07.32`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6953 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):`
`11:07.32`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`11:07.32`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:09.17`	ag`	`Tem: SVN update now`
`11:09.20`	ag`	`brb`
`11:09.45`	`Neronix`	`ckknight: See this bucketing stuff, is it for making a unit frame mod use clad's paradigm?`
`11:09.56`	`ckknight`	`use`
`11:09.58`	`ckknight`	`yes*`
`11:10.16`	`Neronix`	`What do you do with the table that's passed on every event?`
`11:10.20`	`Neronix`	`Compost it?`
`11:10.22`	`ckknight`	`recycled`
`11:10.28`	`ckknight`	`so it's free`
`11:10.34`	`Neronix`	`But what about time`
`11:10.36`	`ckknight`	`save the environment`
`11:10.36`	`Neronix`	`+?`
`11:10.50`	`ckknight`	`it's actually less time, since GC churn is so much`
`11:10.58`	`ckknight`	`also, nilling a table is damn cheap`
`11:11.18`	`Neronix`	`Compost is kinda slow for me, which is why I always do for k in pairs(tbl) do tbl[k] = nil end`
`11:11.32`	`Neronix`	`and setn 0`
`11:12.07`	`ckknight`	`Neronix, I use an internal compost-like structure`
`11:12.16`	`Neronix`	`I see`
`11:12.28`	`ckknight`	`so it's fast`
`11:12.33`	`ckknight`	`I just nil the table`
`11:12.39`	`ckknight`	`contents, that is`
`11:12.44`	`ckknight`	`it's not using Compost proper`
`11:12.56`	`Neronix`	`Thanks for the info, might use bucketing with MH3`
`11:14.04`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`what is returned from deformat when the formatstring doesn't fit to the string?`
`11:16.07`	`Neronix`	`nil`
`11:16.08`	`ckknight`	`nil`
`11:16.17`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`alright thx`
`11:16.33`	`*** join/#wowace Jens (i=Jens@unaffiliated/jens)`
`11:24.12`	`ckknight`	`why is AL so emotastic all the time?`
`11:24.32`	`haste`	`Well, he does have to support the worst crowd ever`
`11:24.57`	`ckknight`	`our crowd's not bad`
`11:25.17`	`haste`	`I was thinking of the general cosmos user ;)`
`11:25.22`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`11:25.38`	`ckknight`	`does AL have programming friends?`
`11:25.56`	`ckknight`	`or other people that he can go to when he hacks on Cosmos and whatnot`
`11:26.13`	`Neronix`	`AlexYoshi?`
`11:26.19`	`Neronix`	`Miravlix?`
`11:26.51`	`ckknight`	`miravlix, shudder`
`11:26.55`	`ckknight`	`don't know AlexYoshi`
`11:27.06`	`Neronix`	`Another Cosmos dev`
`11:27.13`	`Neronix`	`and owner of wowwiki iirc`
`11:27.21`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`11:27.32`	`Neronix`	`I think he's taken a back seat on the former though`
`11:28.07`	`vhaarr`	`I don't think he's the owner of wowwiki`
`11:29.29`	`CIA-11`	`03joshborke * r6954 10HealthMon/HealthMon.lua:`
`11:29.29`	`CIA-11`	`HealthMon:`
`11:29.29`	`CIA-11`	`- wasn't actually changing the update interval...`
`11:30.26`	`ckknight`	`Rustak, also known as Isidien in previous games, is among other things the WoWWiki owner and admin.`
`11:31.36`	`vhaarr`	`I've actually met him and worked with him on another project`
`11:31.52`	`vhaarr`	`totally unrelated to gaming`
`11:31.55`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`11:32.14`	`ckknight`	`is it wrong to want Cosmos to die?`
`11:32.51`	`vhaarr`	`no`
`11:33.20`	`ckknight`	`okay then`
`11:34.55`	`Tem`	`lol, ckknight`
`11:35.10`	`ckknight`	`Cosmos should die.`
`11:35.16`	`Tem`	`"no one will use my libs... on wait"`
`11:35.42`	`ckknight`	`on wait?`
`11:35.51`	`Tem`	`no*`
`11:36.07`	`Tem`	`shush, I've been up all night`
`11:36.15`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`11:36.19`	`Tuplad`	`:D`
`11:36.21`	`Tuplad`	`AL is lol`
`11:36.30`	`Tem\|Sleep`	`nigth guys`
`11:40.50`	*** join/#wowace ag` (n=Andreas@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
`11:41.18`	ag`	`ckknight, how do I pass a table to RegisterBucketEvent?`
`11:41.28`	`ckknight`	`what do you mean?`
`11:41.43`	`ckknight`	`like for multiple events?`
`11:41.53`	ag`	`I tried with {"event","event","event"} , but then it complains that all must be strings`
`11:42.20`	ag`	`yes, multiple events`
`11:43.22`	ag`	`the problem might be that you're checking for if the table key is a string,you should be checking the value?`
`11:43.49`	ag`	`at line 672 in AceEvent`
`11:45.11`	`ckknight`	`may be a typo.`
`11:45.54`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6955 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - typo`
`11:46.39`	`ckknight`	`now try.`
`11:47.02`	ag`	`thanks`
`11:55.34`	`CIA-11`	`03shyva * r6956 10BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant/ (3 files): BigWigs_RazuviousAssistant - Initial commit.`
`11:56.16`	`Shyva`	`it's pretty much useless now, but more things will be added :)`
`11:59.50`	`*** join/#wowace Amadeo (i=amadeo@c-69-140-96-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`12:01.45`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6957 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Defaults.lua ag_UnitClass.lua):`
`12:01.45`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`12:01.45`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:04.44`	`phyber`	`ckknight: :/ that sucks. It's happening with my BagSlots addon too.`
`12:05.03`	`phyber`	`ckknight: is it possible for something to break the chain/g 44`
`12:05.06`	`ckknight`	`phyber, regarding PEW?`
`12:05.06`	`phyber`	`oops`
`12:05.12`	`Saroz`	`sup people`
`12:05.12`	`phyber`	`didn't mean for that /g 44. heh`
`12:05.16`	`ckknight`	`not to my knowledge`
`12:05.18`	`phyber`	`ckknight: yeah. regarding PEW.`
`12:05.23`	`ckknight`	`check out the latest AceEvent?`
`12:05.31`	`phyber`	`will do.`
`12:09.29`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6958 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - changing a setting now refreshes the whole menu.`
`12:10.12`	`Jens`	`Trying to choose priest talents makes my head spin.`
`12:10.39`	`Jens`	`Speccing away from my hybrid heal/damage holy build, since I now hate PvP.`
`12:10.50`	`*** join/#wowace steino (n=stein-iv@ti531210a080-7447.bb.online.no)`
`12:12.30`	`ckknight`	`phyber, I need to sleep soon`
`12:12.37`	`Amadeo`	`Jens: You want straight PvE?`
`12:12.43`	`Jens`	`Healbot spec.`
`12:12.46`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`ckknight: did you look at the sub-menu issue again?`
`12:13.01`	`ckknight`	`what issue is that?`
`12:13.01`	`Jens`	`http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/newlayout/priest/talents.html?50420013050010023405003030014500000000000000000 <-- what I'm at so far.`
`12:13.16`	`Jens`	`But I'm going to miss Mental Strength.`
`12:13.28`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`the bug in the flyspray you declared as not reproducable. Was about the slider issue`
`12:14.08`	`Jens`	`I want more talent points damnit :D`
`12:14.09`	`ckknight`	`what issue are you talking about?`
`12:14.13`	`Amadeo`	`I haven't messed much with the Holy tree`
`12:14.37`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`If you open a sub-menu with a slider and change the value, you press esc, and the sub-menu stays open`
`12:14.54`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`in dewdrop btw`
`12:14.56`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`12:15.02`	`ckknight`	`can't reprodue that`
`12:15.37`	`ckknight`	`ooh, got a bug`
`12:15.39`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`weird`
`12:17.42`	`phyber`	`nope, latest version still happening.`
`12:18.02`	`phyber`	`ckknight: how can I print the version of AceEvents that's loaded in game? I saw someone do something similar the other day.`
`12:18.12`	`phyber`	`just to check that the latest version really is the loaded one.`
`12:18.27`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:18.36`	`CIA-11`	`03joshborke * r6959 10HealthMon/HealthMon.lua:`
`12:18.36`	`CIA-11`	`HealthMon:`
`12:18.36`	`CIA-11`	`- now shows pretty bars.`
`12:18.38`	`Iceroth`	`FtH\|Eagle, i've seen that too`
`12:19.00`	`phyber`	`6955, giess that's the latest one then.`
`12:19.05`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6960 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):`
`12:19.05`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`12:19.05`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:19.05`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6961 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - bugfix`
`12:19.11`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`12:19.12`	`ckknight`	`update`
`12:19.19`	`ckknight`	`and see if it still happens, FtH\|Eagle`
`12:19.24`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`will try`
`12:19.45`	`ckknight`	`ah, hrm. I see a bug`
`12:20.32`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`still there`
`12:21.23`	`*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)`
`12:22.22`	ag`	`bai bai SVN`
`12:22.26`	`phyber`	`I'm unloading other addons that do PEW stuff now. seeing which is breaking it :/`
`12:22.53`	`Sairen`	ag`: the healthbar color of the targettarget frame isn't updated when "color bar by class" is activated
`12:23.05`	ag`	`I can fix that`
`12:23.08`	ag`	`I think :P`
`12:23.15`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6962 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - bugfix in :Close()`
`12:23.17`	`Sairen`	`ye its a tiny bug ^^`
`12:23.34`	`Jens`	ag`: Does aguf have ingame config option now?
`12:23.42`	`ckknight`	`FtH\|Eagle, and now?`
`12:23.46`	`ckknight`	`I may have gotten it.`
`12:24.16`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`still`
`12:24.22`	`Amadeo`	`Jens: It does`
`12:24.27`	`Jens`	`Sweet.`
`12:24.29`	`ckknight`	`wtf`
`12:24.34`	`ckknight`	`okay, one last try`
`12:24.35`	`Amadeo`	`it's had it for a long time now :)`
`12:24.40`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`mh, the weird thing is, I can see only the background, but the slider is there`
`12:24.50`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`because I can change the value, but it's not visible`
`12:25.18`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6963 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:`
`12:25.19`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`12:25.19`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:25.32`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6964 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - please work.`
`12:25.36`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`12:25.52`	`phyber`	`unloaded FuBar and it's all OK`
`12:25.58`	`phyber`	`something is FuBar is FuBar :\|`
`12:26.10`	`ckknight`	`grammar ftl, apparently`
`12:26.10`	`phyber`	`checking which specific fubar thing it is now.`
`12:26.47`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`it's gone`
`12:26.48`	ag`	`newest rev fubar works for me`
`12:26.48`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`yay`
`12:26.50`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`thx :)`
`12:27.21`	`phyber`	ag`: one of the things is breaking PEW event for me :(
`12:27.25`	`ckknight`	`what bug id was that?`
`12:27.29`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna close it`
`12:28.15`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`it's already closed with 'not reproducible'`
`12:28.32`	`ckknight`	`I'm gonna close it as fixed`
`12:29.06`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=55`
`12:29.36`	`phyber`	`ckknight: it's just FuBar2. with that loaded, my PEW event doesn't work.`
`12:29.46`	`ckknight`	`odd`
`12:29.51`	`phyber`	`nothing else on it, just FuBar2 all alone.`
`12:29.52`	`ckknight`	`will test`
`12:29.55`	`ckknight`	`sleep first.`
`12:30.19`	`phyber`	`I'll make sure I've got the latest FuBar2, and update the bug if it still happens.`
`12:30.21`	`phyber`	`:)`
`12:30.26`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`12:30.56`	`Amadeo`	`Sleep first? You're up late, ckknight`
`12:35.35`	`Neronix`	`Amadeo: So are you? :P`
`12:39.26`	`Amadeo`	`I'm up early! :)`
`12:40.17`	`Amadeo`	`I need to get rank 7 this week`
`12:40.24`	`Amadeo`	`I wonder how much honor I need`
`12:40.25`	`Neronix`	`:P`
`12:43.34`	ag`	`phyber, what`
`12:43.36`	`CIA-11`	`03thiana * r6965 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua: FuBar_RestFu: Fixed stack overflow`
`12:43.54`	ag`	`oh`
`12:43.56`	ag`	`nm`
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`12:45.04`	`phyber`	`think I'll try agUF again while leveling my priest a bit :)`
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`12:49.19`	`*** part/#wowace Grumpey-Awy (n=Owner@dialup-4.152.213.95.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)`
`12:53.25`	`Jens`	`Can't I make vertical bars horizontal with Bartender?`
`12:54.15`	`phyber`	`Jens: not yet, but Bartender2 can :)`
`12:54.33`	`Jens`	`I see.`
`12:55.13`	`Jens`	`I've been spending more time fiddling with mods than actually playing the game lately :)`
`12:59.06`	ag`	`welcome to the club`
`13:01.04`	`KaeltenAway`	`Jens: I've been playing since beta and I have characters with weeks worth of hours on them, I still don't have a sixty`
`13:01.37`	`eternally777`	`Jens, me too, but mostly because once I start fiddling with it, it stops working`
`13:01.39`	`Jens`	`My main has ~70 days of playtime. 40 of those at 60.`
`13:02.06`	`Jens`	`I have a slight problem with Bartender2.`
`13:02.19`	`Jens`	`It doesn't seem to work at all :)`
`13:03.07`	`eternally777`	`:-\ I'd help you, but I've never tried it. I'll admit: I use DAB :-(`
`13:03.20`	`Jens`	`Eew.`
`13:03.52`	ag`	`when bartender works sometime it's going to replace dab for me :P`
`13:03.52`	`KaeltenAway`	`I'm still using bongos until bartender2 is tweaked`
`13:03.52`	`Jens`	`Bartender2 seems to be loaded, but /bar does nothing.`
`13:03.54`	`phyber`	`yeah the /bar doesn't exist yet`
`13:03.56`	ag`	`the goggles... They do nothing!`
`13:04.02`	`phyber`	`you have to /script Bartender2:Lock() and stuff`
`13:04.43`	`Jens`	`I refuse to touch any discord mods with a 10 foot pole.`
`13:06.32`	`eternally777`	`So did I for a long time.`
`13:06.38`	`eternally777`	`I was hooked on Flexbar.`
`13:07.00`	`Jens`	`I've used default Blizzard bars till yesterday.`
`13:07.15`	`phyber`	`:o`
`13:07.28`	`eternally777`	`o.O`
`13:08.09`	`KaeltenAway`	`Jens: Try Bongos by Tuller, its a good mod that does most of the simplistic things`
`13:08.34`	`Jens`	`Bar things?`
`13:08.37`	`KaeltenAway`	`Jens: its not an ace mod but it does do a good job`
`13:08.51`	`KaeltenAway`	`yep`
`13:09.14`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`bongos the best imho`
`13:09.54`	`KaeltenAway`	`I used to love BibToolbars`
`13:10.06`	`Jens`	`Bartender does what I need really. Except, I'd like to turn that fourth bar to horizontal.`
`13:11.21`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`btw. anyone noticed now any minor lags with xrs in a raid group?`
`13:11.33`	`KaeltenAway`	`my newest coding char has over 31d of time on him`
`13:11.45`	`KaeltenAway`	`and he's only level 35`
`13:11.54`	`KaeltenAway`	`and I level fast when I'ma ctually playing`
`13:11.56`	`KaeltenAway`	`lol`
`13:14.34`	`Kaelten`	`btw, welcome to the channel all the newer people :)`
`13:15.00`	`eternally777`	`Ty :)`
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`13:19.17`	`Neronix`	`Jens: Bartender2 has no slash command yet`
`13:20.16`	`Elkano`	`ckknight, errors with fbp-2.0:`
`13:20.17`	`Elkano`	Error: ...\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:387: attempt to index field `db' (a nil value)
`13:20.17`	`Elkano`	Error: ...\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0\FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua:324: attempt to index field `db' (a nil value)
`13:24.13`	`Neronix`	`Jens: It's not really complete yet`
`13:27.45`	`Jens`	ag`: I miss "dock inside" option :(
`13:27.58`	ag`	`it might come back sometime`
`13:28.06`	`Jens`	`/cheer`
`13:33.58`	`CIA-11`	`03thiana * r6966 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Efficiency optimizations`
`13:36.33`	`CIA-11`	`03elkano * r6967 10FuBar_ItemDBFu/ (FuBar_ItemDBFu.lua FuBar_ItemDBFu.toc Libs/): FuBar_ItemDBFu - now working and updating :)`
`13:41.35`	`Jens`	`haste: trigger`
`13:51.22`	`[Wobin]`	`Zidane il a frappe, Zidane il a frappe`
`13:51.41`	`[Wobin]`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRNONn4BDEQ`
`13:54.58`	`Amadeo`	`I was expecting Starbucks`
`13:57.44`	`CIA-11`	`03shyva * r6968 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Noth.lua: BigWigs: Fixed typo on line 224`
`14:00.32`	`Worf`	`hmm - is there some weird debugging stuff in bigwigs? i wanted to try bigwigs from trunk and every now and then some debug bars appear... ( just being farming a view windstones in sil )`
`14:02.10`	`Thiana`	`Dont mouse over Aurel Goldleaf in CH Worf :) Thats who it's hooked to.`
`14:02.19`	`Shyva`	`I'll try to fix it Worf :)`
`14:02.29`	`Worf`	`Thiana: ah ok...`
`14:02.33`	`Worf`	`Shyva: no problem...`
`14:02.37`	`Worf`	`if it's only one npc...`
`14:03.06`	`Thiana`	`She's right next to the mailbox. Suprised me too the first time it happened :)`
`14:03.08`	`Worf`	`that's one of the guys near the Mailbox, right? because it's happening mostly when checking mails there`
`14:03.11`	`Neronix`	`I wonder how Skeeve will react if MobHealth3 ever gets released`
`14:03.12`	`Worf`	`hehe`
`14:03.13`	`Worf`	`yeah`
`14:03.26`	`Worf`	`ok - gals then`
`14:04.10`	`Neronix`	`He could either listen to my request to not borg MH3 into MI2 and cooperate happily`
`14:04.12`	`Neronix`	`or,`
`14:04.16`	`Worf`	`oh - btw - the tooltip on the bigwigs minimap bubble tells that i can reset everything by clicking there...`
`14:04.26`	`Neronix`	`There will be a very, very strange David v Goliath battle`
`14:04.34`	`Worf`	`... but i couldn`
`14:04.36`	`CIA-11`	`03shyva * r6969 10BigWigs/Other/Test.lua: BigWigs: You won't see any debug bars when you mouse over Aurel Goldleaf anymore.`
`14:04.51`	`Worf`	`but i couldn't see any reset when clicking there`
`14:04.58`	`Neronix`	`stange because, I, David, have a rocket launcher and Skeeve, Goliath, has a water pistol...`
`14:05.09`	`Neronix`	`... and hundreds of thousands of mindless zealots behind him`
`14:06.01`	`Worf`	`we had a rather unfortunate wipe at Hakar yesterday night ( hakar was almost down, and then he suddenly resetted to 100% ), and after the wipe the bars continues ... i remebered the tooltip and clicked the bubble to reset, but nothing...`
`14:06.23`	`Worf`	`but maybe i just misunderstood`
`14:08.33`	`CIA-11`	`03fryguy * r6970 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (Gothik.lua Loatheb.lua): BigWigs: Fix Gothik restarts without reboots (timers were off). Add Spore and Remove Curse timers/bars to Loatheb module.`
`14:09.29`	`Neronix`	`get purl to do it for you :P`
`14:09.32`	`Neronix`	`~slap [Ammo]`
`14:09.36`	`purl`	`ACTION slaps [Ammo], keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`14:09.48`	`FryGuy`	`heh`
`14:09.50`	`Thiana`	`~whaleslap [Ammo]`
`14:09.52`	`purl`	`ACTION beats [Ammo] upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh`
`14:09.57`	`FryGuy`	`poor hugh :(`
`14:09.58`	`Neronix`	`~jawdrop`
`14:10.00`	`purl`	`ACTION 's jaw drops and a series of whales come tumbling out`
`14:10.04`	`FryGuy`	`~patchwerk`
`14:10.05`	`purl`	`Kel'thuzzad make patchwerk his avatar of war`
`14:12.20`	`Neronix`	`~deadpeople`
`14:12.21`	`purl`	`Knockbackknockback!!`
`14:12.38`	`Neronix`	`~deadpeople`
`14:12.40`	`purl`	`Getbackgetback!! Get the f*c back!`
`14:13.50`	`CIA-11`	`03worf * r6971 10CC_Target/CC_Target.lua:`
`14:13.50`	`CIA-11`	`CC_Target: locally set MAX_TARGET_DEBUFFS and MAX_TARGET_BUFFS in case`
`14:13.50`	`CIA-11`	`other Unitframes did mess with that var`
`14:14.53`	`Shyva`	`lol, some chinese guild killed patchwerk without tanks`
`14:14.54`	`FryGuy`	`i don't understand the purpose of CC_Target :/`
`14:15.15`	`Worf`	`FryGuy: heh`
`14:15.39`	`Worf`	`did you try to understand? :)`
`14:15.43`	`Worf`	`http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/CC_Target`
`14:16.06`	`Worf`	`maybe the video helps you understanding a bit of what you can do with a 2nd target frame ...`
`14:16.20`	`Worf`	`i should do a video of a healer too`
`14:17.18`	Neronix`work	`>.<`
`14:18.05`	`Worf`	`FryGuy: did that link help? :)`
`14:18.37`	`Thiana`	`~literal whaleslap`
`14:18.38`	`purl`	`"whaleslap" is "your mom"`
`14:18.45`	`Thiana`	`~literal slap`
`14:19.06`	`Thiana`	~slap Neronix`work
`14:19.07`	`purl`	ACTION slaps Neronix`work, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
`14:19.19`	`Thiana`	`Why isnt ~literal working properly?`
`14:21.51`	`MoonWolf`	`~literal emulate moonwolf`
`14:21.53`	`purl`	`"emulate moonwolf" is "<reply>I like the female troll model"`
`14:21.59`	`MoonWolf`	`working fine`
`14:22.11`	`Thiana`	`~literal slap`
`14:22.17`	`Thiana`	`~slap MoonWolf`
`14:22.18`	`purl`	`ACTION slaps MoonWolf, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`14:22.23`	`Thiana`	`Not working fine ;)`
`14:23.42`	`FryGuy`	`oh wait`
`14:23.45`	`FryGuy`	`it wasn't cc_target`
`14:23.49`	`FryGuy`	`it was the other one :p`
`14:24.01`	`Worf`	`?`
`14:24.53`	`FryGuy`	`cc_assist`
`14:25.07`	`FryGuy`	`well`
`14:25.08`	`Worf`	`main assist you mean`
`14:25.13`	`FryGuy`	`i just didn't think it's useful`
`14:26.09`	`Worf`	`well... some peope simply like to have a simple shortcut to assist someone and some info if they are on the same target that some person`
`14:26.11`	`Worf`	`i do`
`14:27.32`	`Worf`	`don't expect too much of a 3kb addon`
`14:28.16`	`Worf`	`and according to the forum, some people like having "simple" things :)`
`14:29.30`	`FryGuy`	`:p`
`14:29.44`	`FryGuy`	`i don't use default unitframes so it wouldn't really work for me anyways`
`14:30.13`	`FryGuy`	`I think it might be more useful if it used the "ctra" main assist things`
`14:30.13`	`Worf`	`propably. then you just get keybindings...`
`14:30.33`	`FryGuy`	`and puts your target with the # of the tanks that are targetting your unit`
`14:30.33`	`Worf`	`does ctra now has something like that?`
`14:30.38`	`Worf`	`ah...`
`14:31.01`	`FryGuy`	`so if you were attacking the same target as tanks #1 and #3, it'd show that :)`
`14:31.02`	`Worf`	`like that: http://ui.worldofwar.net/images/ui/02334.ChatCommand_Raid.jpg`
`14:31.05`	`Worf`	`?`
`14:31.20`	`FryGuy`	`hmm ya :p`
`14:31.48`	`Worf`	`hmm... i might consider doing something like that again`
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`14:33.40`	`Worf`	`sigh... that's a old screenshot of me... i see at least 3 people that left the guild since`
`14:33.56`	`Worf`	`and i was all in T1`
`14:35.36`	`Thiana`	`Worf: Will CC_Assist work with any UF?`
`14:36.06`	`Worf`	`Thiana: the indicator is bout to "TargetFrame" - so if that frame is hidden, you will not see it.`
`14:36.14`	`Thiana`	`Ah :(`
`14:36.34`	`Worf`	`Thiana: but it could be a good idea to try adding support for other UF`
`14:36.39`	`Worf`	`Thiana: what do you use?`
`14:36.44`	`Thiana`	`oUF2`
`14:39.02`	`Worf`	`Thiana: well - having a quick look at ouF, i support that the name of the frame is otravi_UnitFramesTarget"`
`14:39.46`	`Worf`	`so you'd have to try replacing parent="TargetFrame" and relativeTo="TargetFrame" in the xml by that name... and see if it works`
`14:39.54`	`Thiana`	`k, thanks :)`
`14:40.38`	`Worf`	`and if it works, then play a bit to find a suitable position for the symbol... report anything you find out and...`
`14:40.48`	`Kaelten`	`hey does date() return servertime or local time?`
`14:41.12`	`Worf`	`Kaelten: to me this sounds like localtime, because i remember some function to get the servertime`
`14:42.33`	`Kaelten`	`k.`
`14:42.45`	`Kaelten`	`hrm I guess the next thing I need is a way to get how many days in the month....`
`14:42.46`	`Kaelten`	`hrm.`
`14:42.54`	`Kaelten`	`pref something that takes into account Leap years.`
`14:44.28`	`Worf`	`hmm... if the date has the format that i expect it hast, then you woud do something like create a date with current year, next moth, 1st of month, and substract 1 day. then get the day of month - it's the last then`
`14:45.58`	`Worf`	`at least i did it in visual basic that way... somewhen ages ago when i didn't know better`
`14:46.04`	`Kaelten`	`heh`
`14:46.42`	`Worf`	`brr... you made me rememer things...`
`14:46.47`	`Kaelten`	`I was thinking of just having an array and checking if its asking for feb in a leap year and return 29 else return daysInMonth[month]`
`14:47.09`	`clad\|sleep`	`are there any new spell timer mods, for hot and dot`
`14:47.12`	`clad\|sleep`	`gouge, etc`
`14:47.17`	`Worf`	`how do you check for leap year?`
`14:47.47`	`Kaelten`	`math.mod(year, 4) == 0 then its a leap year`
`14:47.50`	`Worf`	`well, this is not correct. but it would do for WoW :)`
`14:47.57`	`cladhaire`	`Kaelten: No, there's another rule too`
`14:47.57`	`oxman`	`hi cladhaire ;)`
`14:48.01`	`cladhaire`	`oxman: heyas`
`14:48.02`	`Thiana`	`No Kaelten`
`14:48.16`	`Kaelten`	`hrm, if someone has more insight please share`
`14:48.26`	`Thiana`	`If the year % 100 = 0 and year % 400 ~= 0`
`14:48.28`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`afaik every 100 year it's not one`
`14:48.36`	`cladhaire`	`years divisible by 100 would be leap years only if they were divisible by 400 as well`
`14:48.40`	`Worf`	`well - about every 100 years or so then tere is no leap year where it would be otherwise`
`14:48.49`	`Worf`	`er`
`14:48.51`	`Worf`	`right`
`14:48.52`	`Kaelten`	`ah`
`14:48.53`	`Worf`	`something like that`
`14:48.54`	`Kaelten`	`didn't know that`
`14:49.28`	`Worf`	`cladhaire: i'm impressed... i knew there was another rule, but couldn't remember it in that detail :D`
`14:49.56`	`cladhaire`	`wikipedia`
`14:49.57`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`14:50.02`	`Worf`	`hmpf`
`14:50.20`	`Kaelten`	`so would it be better to create date objects and compare the day of the years or just use an array with a shortcircut for leap years?`
`14:50.21`	`cladhaire`	`I need a spell timer mod for my DoTs and HoTS`
`14:50.23`	`cladhaire`	`can anyone point me to one`
`14:51.15`	`Worf`	`Kaelten: the most save way is propably to let the OS handle the date and use the functions provided`
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`14:51.25`	`Thiana`	`cladhaire TTSpellTimer on wowi`
`14:51.29`	`Worf`	`Kaelten: that way you can't be blamed :D`
`14:51.36`	`dsfsdf`	`spell timer :O`
`14:51.57`	`FryGuy`	`there's actually 3 rules`
`14:52.29`	`FryGuy`	`it's (y%4==0) xor (y%100) xor (y%1000)`
`14:52.41`	`cladhaire`	`Thiana: thanks.`
`14:52.47`	`FryGuy`	`(y%4==0) xor (y%100==0) xor (y%1000==0)`
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`14:52.57`	`Thiana`	`FryGuy: 1000? You mean 400 Fry?`
`14:53.00`	`FryGuy`	`er`
`14:53.46`	`FryGuy`	`ya 400`
`14:53.47`	`Worf`	`you ar all wrong. because in a view 100 or 1000 years they might find out they need a different rule, because earth changes the rotation speed`
`14:53.51`	`FryGuy`	`(y%4==0) xor (y%100==0) xor (y%400==0)`
`14:54.35`	`Worf`	`( or maybe somewhen they find it being easier to fix earth speed than to teach humanity a new calender )`
`14:55.39`	`Worf`	`(( assuming there are humans left by then ))`
`14:55.52`	`Kaelten`	`heh`
`14:56.16`	`FryGuy`	`heh`
`14:56.29`	`FryGuy`	`well all it'd take is an extra day just because`
`14:57.01`	`cladhaire`	`what are you trying to find out kaelten?`
`14:57.13`	`FryGuy`	`i mean it's not like having the equinox one day early/late matters that much`
`14:59.28`	`Worf`	`Thiana: do i get a cookie everytime i start to think out loud? but the first cookie tasted better ...`
`14:59.52`	`Kaelten`	`cladhaire: how many days are in a month, that will compensate for leap years`
`15:00.05`	`Kebinusan`	`http://alcor.concordia.ca/~gpkatch/gdate-method.html`
`15:00.22`	`Thiana`	`No, only when people go on strange tangets, act like a child, or act stupid do they get cookies ;)`
`15:00.33`	`Thiana`	`*tangents`
`15:00.40`	`cladhaire`	`why doesn't http://lua-users.org/wiki/DayOfWeekAndDaysInMonthExample work?`
`15:00.45`	`CIA-11`	`03oxman * r6972 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidLocals.lua): PerfectRaid: fix a bug about debuff Weakened Soul and filter; "Sh" debuff has now two colors, with or without "Weakened Soul"; /praid debuffcolor : debuff background color option`
`15:02.32`	`Amadeo`	`So giving a cookie is an insult? I always thought it was a nice treat!`
`15:03.05`	`Kaelten`	`cladhaire: well the second example is pointless since lua's date funciton can return the day of the week to you`
`15:03.13`	`Thiana`	`Amadeo: For reasons 2 or 3 yes ;)`
`15:03.25`	`Worf`	`Amadeo: good point... so i should feel insulted then :)`
`15:03.33`	`Amadeo`	`I should do all three more often, so I get more cookies`
`15:03.45`	`Thiana`	`Worf: So you think you're stupid and/or childish? ;)`
`15:04.16`	`Worf`	`Thiana: yeah. i mentioned visual basic before... both stupid and childish that was ... :)`
`15:04.41`	`Thiana`	`Worf: Yes, but you didnt get a cookie for that. That comes under the whole misguided childhood thing ;)`
`15:04.49`	`Worf`	`ah - ok`
`15:05.18`	`Worf`	`but right now i'm trying to translate that stupid joke... but my english has limits...`
`15:05.47`	`Thiana`	`Worf: Stupid joke? I'm afraid to ask :)`
`15:05.50`	`Worf`	`my best try about that is like this ( 2 planets meet...: )`
`15:05.50`	`Kaelten`	`hrm.`
`15:05.53`	`Worf`	`"hi there, how are you"`
`15:05.54`	`Worf`	`"oh, not good. got the humans."`
`15:05.54`	`Worf`	`"ouch, awful. had that myself. quite a pain, but it goes away."`
`15:09.21`	`mjc`	`lol`
`15:10.33`	`Amadeo`	`hahaha, just kidding`
`15:10.36`	`Thiana`	`lol`
`15:10.37`	`Amadeo`	`that's my damn cookie`
`15:10.58`	`Worf`	`you do not want to take that cookie away from me!`
`15:11.27`	`Amadeo`	`I'll throw ya own pimp at ya!`
`15:13.50`	`Worf`	`i think i go online again ... let's see what i can do agains humans there...`
`15:13.50`	`Mikma`	Neronix`work: lol busted! :D
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`15:18.26`	`Mikma`	`phyber: no /bar before i learn how to use dewdrop :)`
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`15:30.50`	`Mikma`	`oh crap`
`15:31.07`	`phyber`	`Mikma: hehe`
`15:31.39`	`phyber`	`Mikma: stage one, write an options table :p`
`15:32.09`	`Mikma`	`first i need to get this padding to work`
`15:32.15`	`phyber`	`Stage two: self.dewdrop:Open(XPBarNoneButton, 'point', "TOP", 'relativePoint', "BOTTOM", 'cursorX', true)`
`15:32.15`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`Why am I getting an error with the MoneyFrame when I'm creating my tooltip?`
`15:32.19`	`phyber`	`or similar for cursor ;)`
`15:32.23`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`anyone noticed similar problems?`
`15:32.50`	`phyber`	`FtH\|Eagle: I had a MoneyFrame error yesterday, but I ignored it. not sure where it camefrom.`
`15:33.06`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`coming from xrs`
`15:33.10`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`but it makes no sense to me`
`15:33.18`	`Mikma`	`i just realized that if i put a -1 on bar padding the movable area on bars will grow bigger than the buttons use`
`15:33.50`	`Mikma`	`i think i have to redo the who damn setpoint again`
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`15:35.04`	ag`	`:P`
`15:37.13`	`[Ammo]`	`good afternoon`
`15:38.16`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`welcome back :)`
`15:39.14`	`Mikma`	`i should wake up first before i start doing on the damn code again`
`15:39.23`	`Mikma`	`i don't have any idea how to do this hehe`
`15:40.35`	`Mikma`	`SetPoint party!`
`15:40.40`	`Mikma`	ag`: btw, nice updates :O
`15:41.24`	`Mikma`	`so i have for i=1,12 do .. can i reverse it with for i=12,1 do ?`
`15:41.42`	`Kaelten`	`Mikma: for i=12, 1, -1 do`
`15:41.50`	`Mikma`	`Kaelten: thanks :)`
`15:42.25`	`Kaelten`	`the third optional argument is the step :)`
`15:42.55`	`Mikma`	`http://www.lua.org/pil/4.3.4.html`
`15:43.02`	`[Ammo]`	`candybar has purty fades now, but something is br0ken`
`15:43.12`	`Mikma`	`i saw that third in there but didn't realize why it's there first`
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`15:49.03`	`Mikma`	`Your Character Transfer is now being processed for approval. ! :D`
`15:50.27`	`Kebinusan`	`I need to find a new home for my toon soon`
`15:50.30`	`Kebinusan`	`this not raiding sucks`
`15:52.51`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r6973 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: Candybar: Fixed fading bug.`
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`15:59.34`	ag`	`Mikma, where are you transfering to`
`15:59.38`	ag`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:00.13`	`Mikma`	ag`: Eonar PvE to Nordrassil PvE
`16:00.29`	`Mikma`	ag`: my GF did same transfer + Burning Legion PvP to Nordrassil PvE
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`16:00.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`you were on burning legion?`
`16:00.48`	ag`	`ah, pve... that's why you always complain about the damn pvp logos :P`
`16:00.53`	`Mikma`	`:)`
`16:01.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`alliance or horde?`
`16:01.06`	ag`	`I've heard BL was a good server`
`16:01.06`	`Mikma`	`lolliance`
`16:01.09`	ag`	`or something`
`16:01.18`	`Mikma`	`yeah it is, i still got my lolliance lvl60 mage there`
`16:01.30`	`Mikma`	`it's the first char i ever leveled to lvl60`
`16:01.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`its a good server except for the crappy lag`
`16:02.36`	`Mikma`	`Arrowmaster: you got char there?`
`16:02.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`its the only server ive got chars on`
`16:03.00`	`Arrowmaster`	`60 horde warlock`
`16:03.17`	`Mikma`	`ok, my good friend has a tauren shaman there :)`
`16:03.34`	`Mikma`	`add Kendos to your friendlist and if you see him coming online talk something nasty to him.`
`16:03.53`	`Mikma`	`he will propably be clueless for a while but when you mention Mikma to him he will realize :)`
`16:04.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`heh`
`16:04.06`	`Mikma`	`and yes, you really can talk nasty to him :)`
`16:04.52`	`Mikma`	`i myself too wanted to go and level a hordechar on that server some time ago but lost the interest`
`16:05.01`	`Mikma`	`i still have a small love for PvP server afterall`
`16:05.24`	`Kebinusan`	`My realm got destroyed when they opened up a pve -> pvp transfer`
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`16:06.00`	`Mikma`	`Kebinusan: you propably mean pvp -> pve?`
`16:06.35`	`Kebinusan`	`nope`
`16:06.45`	`Kebinusan`	`they opened up a pve to pvp transfer on my realm in april`
`16:06.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres been a few pve -> pvp transfers but i think theyve always goten removed shortly after opening`
`16:07.07`	`Kebinusan`	`we had several large guilds leave`
`16:07.25`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r6974 10BigWigs/Bars.lua:`
`16:07.25`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs:`
`16:07.25`	`CIA-11`	`* now uses candybar grouping and fading. the bar argumetn is still in BigWigs_StartBar.`
`16:07.52`	`Mikma`	`Kebinusan: as far as i know blizzard has never allowed and will never allow PvE -> PvP since it's unfair for persons who have leveled their chars in pvp`
`16:08.01`	`CIA-11`	`03ammo * r6975 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua:`
`16:08.01`	`CIA-11`	`CandyBar:`
`16:08.01`	`CIA-11`	`* The icon now properly fades as well.`
`16:08.07`	`Arrowmaster`	`our 2 largest horde guilds and a third smaller but still far in pve horde guild have/are transfering due to lag`
`16:08.39`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: that's silly`
`16:08.53`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: no, it is good reason.`
`16:08.58`	`[Ammo]`	`it's a very good reason indeed`
`16:09.08`	`[Ammo]`	`levelling on a pve realm is real easy`
`16:09.16`	`[Ammo]`	`no ganking, no nothing, just grind till you drop`
`16:09.17`	`Arrowmaster`	`we went from having one of the top us horde guilds (ropetown) to (once the other guild finishs transfering) not having any guilds that can get past twin emps`
`16:09.27`	`Tuplad`	`Mikk: oh come on, how lame/stupid do you have to be to level a char on a pve realm to 60 and then wait for a transfer, that's wack`
`16:09.45`	`FryGuy`	`burning legion?`
`16:09.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah`
`16:09.51`	`Tuplad`	`mikma*`
`16:09.51`	`eternally777`	`I loved levelling on a PvP server.`
`16:09.52`	`FryGuy`	`ya`
`16:09.55`	`FryGuy`	`i'm on burning blade`
`16:09.57`	`FryGuy`	`same cluster`
`16:10.01`	`FryGuy`	`is your lag gone now?`
`16:10.03`	`Tuplad`	`<- Bloodfeather/Boulderfist :p`
`16:10.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`fuck no`
`16:10.08`	`FryGuy`	`ours went away tuesday`
`16:10.11`	`FryGuy`	`like casting lag`
`16:10.12`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: read what [Ammo] said, i agree 100% with him`
`16:10.16`	`FryGuy`	`but still the 20second spikes`
`16:10.33`	`FryGuy`	`two loatheb wipes cause of it :(`
`16:10.40`	`Arrowmaster`	`the random restart thurday night almost fucked up the beginning of our bwl run`
`16:10.42`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: then read what I said`
`16:10.58`	`Arrowmaster`	`were just about to pull vael when the message came up`
`16:11.02`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: and your words still fight against the reason why blizzard won't allow it`
`16:11.35`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: Im sure that it's not the reason why blizz doesnt allow pve->pvp`
`16:11.43`	`Mikma`	`go and google`
`16:11.44`	`FryGuy`	`eternally777: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds/battlegroups.html`
`16:11.52`	`Mikma`	`you'll see it's the exact reason`
`16:12.05`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah you cant even do a paid transfer from pve to pvp`
`16:12.08`	`[Ammo]`	`Tuplad: they have said something like: Because of the difference in difficulty in levelling on pve vs pvp we will not allow pve -> pvp transfer`
`16:12.10`	ag`	`how does candybars look btw?`
`16:12.13`	`eternally777`	`Ah, that's what you mean by "cluster"`
`16:12.14`	`FryGuy`	`ya we had just cleared to gothik when that transfer`
`16:12.17`	`Tuplad`	`:O`
`16:12.17`	`[Ammo]`	ag`: purty ag
`16:12.30`	ag`	`Elkano uses them or?`
`16:12.30`	`FryGuy`	`it delayed us like 45 minutes :/`
`16:12.40`	`FryGuy`	`cause we had to reclear some of the trash again`
`16:12.46`	`eternally777`	`Fryguy: what guild are you in, if you don't mind me asking?`
`16:12.53`	`FryGuy`	`Surge of Burning Blade`
`16:12.58`	`[Ammo]`	ag`: check out the screenshots of GotWood
`16:12.59`	`Elkano`	`hmm?`
`16:13.03`	`Mikma`	`"You are attempting to transfer from a PvE realm to a PvP realm. Characters currently located on PvE realms are only eligible to move to other PvE realms."`
`16:13.06`	`[Ammo]`	`they're on the forums`
`16:13.18`	`Mikma`	`"You may transfer characters from PvP to PvE realms, but transfers from PvE to PvP realms are not allowed."`
`16:13.18`	`Elkano`	`no, I'm not using candy`
`16:13.21`	`[Ammo]`	`http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8054/gwpw0.jpg`
`16:13.21`	`Tuplad`	`pve server ftl then :<`
`16:13.25`	`Kebinusan`	`whats gotwood do?`
`16:13.40`	`Kebinusan`	`ah totem timer`
`16:13.44`	`Kebinusan`	`I get it now`
`16:13.50`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`yes :)`
`16:14.02`	`Arrowmaster`	`ive heard battlegroup4 should have some perty big name pvpers in it`
`16:14.07`	`[Ammo]`	`Elkano: I don't think a buffbar should in fact`
`16:14.15`	`[Ammo]`	`Elkano: no need at all`
`16:14.24`	`Tuplad`	`why need totem timers ? your pvp fights wont take longer than 1 min except if it's a druid`
`16:14.26`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: why is that? you can grind your ass off without having to run to your corpse every 5min, nad if you wan't to battle you can always go to BG where all the fighting nowadays is`
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`16:14.42`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: bg is bull`
`16:14.45`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: since some people do actually instances too with shamans`
`16:14.54`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`Tuplad: pve?`
`16:14.59`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: a bunch of punks making groups and crushing pugs`
`16:14.59`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: your attitude is bull.`
`16:15.04`	`Kaelten`	`xml sucks!`
`16:15.05`	`[Ammo]`	`Mikma: you're trying to talk sense into a brick wall`
`16:15.05`	`Tuplad`	`heh ;p`
`16:15.11`	`Arrowmaster`	`battlegroup5 is suppost to have some real big name pve guilds in it`
`16:15.24`	`Mikma`	`[Ammo]: aye :(`
`16:15.30`	`maia`	`Kaelten: I need to bug you.`
`16:15.34`	`Tuplad`	`[Ammo]: not really :\`
`16:16.12`	`Tuplad`	`it might be different on pve servers, but on pvp you have a bunch of premades, I go BG but that's mostly for the rep, I do real battles outside`
`16:16.28`	`maia`	`Kaelten: could you add AceDB as opt. dep. in AceDebug and save the current debugging state? Otherwise addons have to default to either on or off, and will reset any changes on each reload.`
`16:17.03`	`maia`	`Kaelten: alternatively, I could hook :SetDebugging(), but this feels like a big pain.`
`16:17.34`	`Kaelten`	`maia: you just want it to remember the debug state if AceDB is present?`
`16:17.40`	`maia`	`yup`
`16:17.54`	`[Ammo]`	`I think all addons should default debugging to off`
`16:17.57`	`[Ammo]`	`but that's me :)`
`16:18.04`	`maia`	`I'd want to do a MyAddon:SetDebugging(self.db.debugging) or whatever on OnEnable()`
`16:18.46`	`Kaelten`	`well really what you should do is override the set and Get functions`
`16:18.56`	`maia`	`Ammo, all addons in svn are beta. so they should default to on. ;)`
`16:19.13`	`maia`	`Kaelten: which set and get commands?`
`16:19.24`	`Kaelten`	`thats what I'm looking up to make sure I give you the right info`
`16:19.29`	`maia`	`:)`
`16:19.31`	ag`	`I want an addon that searches for stun/silence debuffs and then displays a bar/countdown for the newest`
`16:19.45`	ag`	`because in Pvp I have no idea when I am stunned when I can act again`
`16:19.47`	`Kaelten`	`is the svn down?`
`16:19.57`	ag`	`so I just sit an spam buttons hoping to get out`
`16:19.57`	`Kaelten`	`or just slow as all hell today`
`16:20.27`	`[Ammo]`	`it was up just 20 mins ago`
`16:20.29`	ag`	`I might actually write such an addon`
`16:20.32`	ag`	`what should I call it?`
`16:20.34`	`maia`	ag`: I want an addon that tracks time in raid spent in combat and out of combat (with optional categories, such as "buffing", "loot distribution", "travelling"). People don't believe me we spend >50% out of combat, and most of it while looting and buffing.
`16:20.42`	`maia`	`Kaelten: slow as hell`
`16:20.47`	ag`	`hehe maia`
`16:21.15`	`Kebinusan`	`sw stats tracks raid dps and one of the options is 'the ugly truth' which doesnt stop ticking down raid dps when you're ooc`
`16:22.06`	`Kaelten`	`maia: what I suggest while you're in active debugging call self:SetDebugging(true) for the moment`
`16:22.39`	`maia`	`Kaelten: I have SetDebugging(true) in my OnEnable()`
`16:22.45`	`FryGuy`	`i like the new bigwigs btw`
`16:22.50`	`FryGuy`	`the bars are sweet :p`
`16:22.51`	`FryGuy`	`http://www.burntpopcorn.net/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_080406_205935.jpg`
`16:22.58`	`maia`	`Kaelten: just some people like to turn it off, and they don't want to turn it off each time they relog.`
`16:23.02`	`Kaelten`	`then its always debugging :)`
`16:23.18`	`FryGuy`	`er whoops didn't mean to paste that`
`16:23.22`	`Kebinusan`	`heh`
`16:23.25`	`Kaelten`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:23.27`	`Kaelten`	`found it`
`16:23.35`	`Kebinusan`	`yeah BW2 is sexy`
`16:23.44`	`[Ammo]`	`it just got sexier :p`
`16:23.50`	`[Ammo]`	`the bars now fade out in .5 seconds`
`16:23.51`	`Tuplad`	`FryGuy: what's the spam about ? :p`
`16:23.56`	`Kaelten`	`maia: override :IsDebugging()`
`16:24.07`	`Kebinusan`	`The only addon I have left that uses timex is acetimers`
`16:24.21`	`FryGuy`	`shhh`
`16:24.48`	`FryGuy`	`it's my rosterlib testing library :)`
`16:24.51`	`Kaelten`	`maia and SetDebugging()`
`16:24.52`	`Tuplad`	`:O`
`16:25.01`	`maia`	`Kaelten: override it? aka hook it and instead of "return self.debugging" something like "return self.db.profile.debugging"?`
`16:25.05`	`Kaelten`	`not hook em, but override it`
`16:25.18`	`[Ammo]`	`8% wipe fryguy ugh`
`16:25.26`	`Kaelten`	`well you don't want to hook em.`
`16:25.27`	`FryGuy`	`loatheb is a beast :(`
`16:25.34`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`16:25.35`	`FryGuy`	`well he's undead, but in the generic sense of the word`
`16:25.54`	`maia`	`Kaelten: I think I'm not sure what you're really suggesting - how do I override a function?`
`16:26.00`	`Kaelten`	`you'd want to do something ike function Addon:IsDebugging() return self.db.profile.debugging end`
`16:26.06`	`maia`	`oh`
`16:26.13`	`maia`	`okay...`
`16:26.47`	`maia`	`uum, wait. I then have to take care myself of switching the status, right?`
`16:27.10`	`maia`	`problem: I don't have access to that option in the dewdrop/command line.`
`16:27.15`	`Kaelten`	`well you're wanting to support functionality that we decided not to include in the original design`
`16:27.33`	`maia`	`thats why I'm suggesting to add it ;p`
`16:27.57`	`Kaelten`	`well its not that we didn't consider it , its that we decided against it :)`
`16:28.04`	`maia`	`Kaelten: well, my question is, how will I know if someone switches the debugging state via the dewdrop menu?`
`16:28.21`	`maia`	`somehow I need to know if the user changes it, so I can store the new setting.`
`16:28.23`	`Kaelten`	`you override SetDebugging to`
`16:28.30`	`maia`	`too?`
`16:29.02`	`maia`	`guess I'll mess with that. thanks.`
`16:29.20`	`Kaelten`	`function Addon:SetDeubbing(debugging) self.db.profile.debbuging = debugging self.debugging = debugging end`
`16:29.36`	`Kaelten`	`self.debugging still has to be set to the correct value as well.`
`16:29.46`	`maia`	`okay`
`16:30.11`	`Kaelten`	`I'm butchinger debuggging several times in there sorry`
`16:30.23`	`maia`	`;)`
`16:30.28`	`maia`	`drunk?`
`16:31.22`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`16:31.28`	`Kaelten`	`nope, just a 3 year old keeps bugging me`
`16:31.43`	`maia`	`mortal strike it.`
`16:31.50`	`maia`	`or stunlock it.`
`16:32.04`	`Kaelten`	`I'll talk with the guys again about possibly putting that kind of functionality in but I don't think we'll do it`
`16:32.15`	`maia`	`okay, thanks.`
`16:32.40`	`Kaelten`	`in your OnEnable block or OnInitialize block put something like self.debuggign = self:IsDebugging()`
`16:33.00`	`Kaelten`	`but with debugging not typoed to death`
`16:34.09`	`Kaelten`	`woot my calander now will arrange itself properly`
`16:35.42`	`maia`	`oh, two more questions: is it possible AceOptions table really doesn't have a "radiobutton" style? And, is there any addon similar to GuildEventManager, but more reliable, stable and less cpu consuming?`
`16:36.27`	`Kaelten`	`maia: I think group can be used kinda like a radiobutton style, but I'm not 100% sure`
`16:36.33`	`Kaelten`	`maia: and I'm actually writing one :)`
`16:36.37`	`maia`	`as for the AceOptions: if I'd have to use checkboxes (toggles), I'd need three options, and whenever I turn one on, I'd have to turn off the other two.`
`16:36.49`	`maia`	`yay.`
`16:37.18`	`Mikma`	`a vote! should Button nr.1 be at the top of Bartender's Bar or at the bottom?`
`16:37.39`	`Kaelten`	`nr.1?`
`16:37.47`	`Mikma`	`i say it should be at the bottom, by that way the swapping will make sence, Button nr.1 won't move at all`
`16:37.51`	`maia`	`ya`
`16:38.04`	`Mikma`	`Kaelten: ActionButton1, MultiBarBottomLeftButton1 ... etc :)`
`16:38.21`	`Kaelten`	`maia: ya I understand what you're going for but I think its in the form of a group.... not sure ... but I think it is.`
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`16:38.46`	`maia`	`Kaelten: I'll try to find it out.`
`16:39.09`	`maia`	`haha, I did a svn update for Squishy 20min ago and it's still fetching externals.`
`16:39.45`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`16:39.59`	`Kaelten`	`ya the svn is stored on a seperate server, and that sever has a lot more strain sometimes`
`16:40.08`	`maia`	`basically all I want is the buckets.`
`16:40.16`	`Kaelten`	`buckets?`
`16:40.30`	`Amadeo`	`Are there any cooldown count addons that work?`
`16:40.38`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`what events are fired when somebody gets ressed? only unit_health?`
`16:40.39`	`maia`	`RegisterBucketEvent`
`16:41.03`	`Kaelten`	`BucketEvent?`
`16:41.05`	`Kebinusan`	`Teh SVN appears to be taking a dirt nap`
`16:41.07`	`Kaelten`	`have I missed something?`
`16:41.11`	`maia`	`Kaelten: thats basically what clad was doing with setting dirty flags`
`16:41.36`	`FryGuy`	`it'll "bucket" events together methinks`
`16:42.01`	`maia`	`"This compiles a list of arg1's, then every delay seconds, if the event fired, call the given function or method with the list of arg1's."`
`16:42.21`	`Kaelten`	`ah`
`16:42.26`	`maia`	`it's specifically written for ag_UF ;)`
`16:42.26`	`Kaelten`	`ok`
`16:42.31`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`no one knows?`
`16:42.46`	`Kaelten`	`I've not been around for a few days, but its a good idea`
`16:42.49`	`Kaelten`	`not sure eagle`
`16:42.52`	`maia`	`FtH\|Eagle: I can kill my pet if you'd want to`
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`16:43.30`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`if you want to, watch for every event when the pets gets ressed`
`16:43.33`	`Kaelten`	`I wish Turan would come by and see what has become of Ace, lol`
`16:43.35`	`Kaelten`	`I think he`
`16:43.38`	`Kaelten`	`'d be suprised`
`16:43.51`	`FryGuy`	`about how awesome it is? :P`
`16:44.13`	`maia`	`yeah, unfortunately the mob in RFC is stuck at the entrance. give me 3min to reset it and lets hope the pet is still there`
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`16:44.39`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I have time ;)`
`16:44.39`	`Kaelten`	`FryGuy: maybe, or just how different it is. :)`
`16:44.49`	`Kaelten`	`its changed a lot since his original vision`
`16:46.12`	`CIA-11`	`03jncl * r6976 10/FuBar_QuestsFu/: FuBar_QuestsFu: Branching to add support for Quest Watch small font option`
`16:46.41`	`maia`	`only UNIT_HEALTH fires when ressing a pet as hunter.`
`16:46.52`	`cladhaire`	`Woot!`
`16:46.58`	`maia`	`PR done?`
`16:47.11`	`cladhaire`	`hahah no`
`16:47.13`	`FryGuy`	`PR?`
`16:47.16`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`ah that really sucks`
`16:47.24`	`cladhaire`	`just got my contract for a job i'm working on`
`16:47.29`	`CIA-11`	`03jncl * r6977 10/ (FuBar_QuestsFu/ branches/FuBar_QuestsFu/): FuBar_QuestsFu: Helps if you put it in the right place :)`
`16:47.30`	`cladhaire`	`and i'm excited`
`16:47.35`	`Mikma`	`haha, i suck at setpointing`
`16:47.39`	`maia`	`FtH\|Eagle: well, if you're grouped, also RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE will fire`
`16:47.44`	`Kaelten`	`cladhaire: is it the one we talked about last night?`
`16:47.48`	`Tuplad`	`http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emptrashbig5mo.jpg neat unitframes`
`16:48.17`	`maia`	`cladhaire: congrats!`
`16:48.29`	`cladhaire`	`Kaelten: yeah`
`16:48.30`	`cladhaire`	`the pay sucks`
`16:48.37`	`cladhaire`	`but it'll keep me occupied at my job =)`
`16:48.37`	`maia`	`FtH\|Eagle: what do you need it for?`
`16:48.44`	`maia`	`oh noes!`
`16:48.49`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`for the buff buttons to update`
`16:48.57`	`Kaelten`	`lol. congratz bro`
`16:49.00`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`because dead people don't need to be buffed :)`
`16:49.00`	`maia`	`buff buttons?`
`16:49.04`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`in xrs`
`16:49.09`	`maia`	`get rosterlib.`
`16:49.11`	`cladhaire`	`someone needs to write a candy-bar'd spell timer.`
`16:49.27`	`Kebinusan`	`./signed thanks for volunteering`
`16:49.30`	`Kebinusan`	`:-)`
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`16:49.55`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`I didn't see an event related to ressing or dying`
`16:49.56`	`CIA-11`	`03jncl 07Jncl * r6978 10FuBar_QuestsFu/: FuBar_QuestsFu: copy from trunk`
`16:49.59`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`are there?`
`16:50.09`	`Mikk`	`there's lots`
`16:50.27`	`maia`	`FtH\|Eagle: hmm. well, thats true. I can add it though. I guess.`
`16:50.51`	`Mikk`	`FtH\|Eagle: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_%28Full_List%29 - search for "Death"`
`16:51.02`	`maia`	`FtH\|Eagle: might be a lot of events and overhead though. hmm.`
`16:51.15`	`FtH\|Eagle`	`don't need death events, only when somebody gets ressed`
`16:51.25`	`Mikk`	`The ress event is in that category`
`16:51.39`	`MvA\|Slayman`	`dudes i can barely wait to see what SCT 5.0 is going to give me. So amazed!`
`16:53.04`	`Amadeo`	`MSBT for life!`
`16:53.08`	`CIA-11`	`03jncl 07Jncl * r6979 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (QuestsFu.lua QuestsFuLocals.lua): FuBar_QuestsFu: Added support for Quest Watch small font option`
`16:53.28`	`oxman`	`<@cladhaire> someone needs to write a candy-bar'd spell timer.`
`16:53.34`	`maia`	`cladhaire: do you know that svn is terribly slow?`
`16:53.37`	`oxman`	`after the new PR you know your futur addon`
`16:53.37`	`oxman`	`;)`
`16:56.39`	`FryGuy`	`which kind of spell timer?`
`16:56.44`	`cladhaire`	`maia: I hate you.`
`16:56.59`	`oxman`	`like ttspelltimer`
`16:57.00`	`FryGuy`	`like oCD or soap? or like oCB :p`
`16:57.02`	`oxman`	`but better :D`
`16:57.02`	`Kebinusan`	`Like Acetimer`
`16:57.06`	`maia`	`hmm. AceTab was working for me until a week ago or so, it was auto-completing console commands (such as /myaddon standby). It's not anymore.`
`16:57.07`	`Kebinusan`	`but with Candybar`
`16:57.14`	`FryGuy`	`oh`
`16:57.19`	`FryGuy`	`i see :p`
`16:58.33`	`Mikma`	`svn is fast, the server is just slow`
`16:58.45`	`maia`	`anyone know if new versions of AceTab require feeding it with the entire AceOptions table?`
`16:58.54`	`haste`	`Jens: trigger back`
`16:59.16`	`Kaelten`	`is it bad that I'm copying code form OneBag into Combine?`
`16:59.31`	`haste`	`What's Combine?`
`16:59.51`	`Kaelten`	`its my new project`
`17:00.01`	`Kaelten`	`A Raid/Guild management prog`
`17:00.03`	`haste`	`Shouldn't be bad if it's needed then, imo`
`17:00.25`	`oxman`	`Like GEM ?`
`17:00.26`	`Kaelten`	`heh, ya, it just suprised me that I'd be copying code from the one to the other`
`17:00.35`	`Kaelten`	`oxman: kinda I supopse.`
`17:00.42`	`oxman`	`ok`
`17:00.47`	`haste`	`oCB has code pretty many places now :p`
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`17:01.11`	`Kaelten`	`oCB?`
`17:01.30`	`Tuplad`	`oCB!`
`17:01.37`	`Tuplad`	`otravi Casting Bar`
`17:01.47`	`Kaelten`	`ah`
`17:04.59`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r6980 10oCD/core.lua: oCD - No longer errors on PEW.`
`17:07.37`	`CIA-11`	`03kaelten * r6981 10Combine/ (Combine.lua Combine.xml):`
`17:07.37`	`CIA-11`	`Combine -`
`17:07.37`	`CIA-11`	`-Built Calendar display. It just shows up for the current month right now.`
`17:07.45`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`!`
`17:07.48`	`oxman`	`:p`
`17:07.51`	`oxman`	`I want a screen :D`
`17:08.03`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`Kaelten: won't be usefull untill 1.12 I assume`
`17:08.19`	`Kaelten`	`Kyahx: nope, its still early in development as well.`
`17:08.38`	`Kaelten`	`but there is a lot for me to do between here and now.`
`17:08.38`	`Kyahx`	`good, maybe we can dump GroupCalendar post-1.12 then :P`
`17:09.20`	`Kaelten`	`s/here/there/`
`17:09.27`	`Kaelten`	`bah`
`17:09.30`	`Kaelten`	`stupid purl`
`17:09.41`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`17:09.44`	`Kaelten`	`there and now is what I meant`
`17:09.46`	`Mikma`	`is there any way of renaming the original blizzard names for buttons to something other? or making an alias for them?`
`17:09.47`	`Kaelten`	`heya Cairenn`
`17:09.53`	`Mikma`	`like Bar1Button1 = ActionButton1`
`17:09.55`	`Cairenn`	`hi`
`17:10.03`	`Kaelten`	`Mikma: you just did it`
`17:10.18`	`Mikma`	`Kaelten: well, i did try it with "local" and i got error`
`17:10.21`	ag`	`I need to create something like candybars, but instead of a bar it is a timer clock in top of an icon like for example action bars`
`17:10.22`	`Mikma`	`i'll test that one too :D`
`17:10.38`	ag`	`or maybe candybar should be able to show frames like that, dunno`
`17:10.50`	`Mikma`	`hmm neat`
`17:10.59`	`maia`	`Mikma: I didn't watch the latest work on Bartender, but did you find a way to add my suggestions? I'd really like to get rid of DAB soon :)`
`17:11.15`	`[Ammo]`	ag`: you'll have to code that yourself I think
`17:11.22`	ag`	`yes`
`17:11.25`	`[Ammo]`	ag`: wasn't the intention of candybar etc
`17:11.31`	`Kyahx`	`maia: what was the suggestion?`
`17:11.31`	`oxman`	`timer clock isn't good`
`17:11.45`	`oxman`	`how you can see multiple clock when you have debuff on many targets ?`
`17:11.58`	ag`	`they would be good for different things`
`17:11.58`	`maia`	`Kyahx: several ones. e.g. when scaling buttons <1 then crop instead of scale them`
`17:12.01`	`Mikma`	`maia: umh, remind me again what suggestions? the ones on forums?`
`17:12.15`	ag`	`oxman, like showing cooldown on skills`
`17:12.17`	`maia`	`Kyahx: or: switch bar pages depending on if the target is friendly or agressive`
`17:12.34`	`Gngsk`	`crop icons!`
`17:12.36`	ag`	`switch pages if you hold down a hotkey :D`
`17:12.37`	`Kyahx`	`ah, reactive pageing is a crucial one for me`
`17:12.37`	`maia`	`Kyahx: or, switching pages on METAKEY_DOWN and switching it back on _UP`
`17:12.38`	`oxman`	`oh cd`
`17:13.00`	`Mikma`	ag`: i've got an idea, show me an addon what i can copy and i will make you a module for Bartender later ;)
`17:13.15`	`maia`	`Mikma: posted all of them in your Bartender thread, think it's post #2.`
`17:13.51`	`Mikma`	`maia: some of them are over my skills but i'll have a look at all suggestions once B2 core is functional :D`
`17:14.10`	`Kyahx`	`Mikma: why make it modular?`
`17:14.21`	`oxman`	i've a problem with aguf ag`, when i enable it show "method conflict in attempt to mixin. field "ishooked" about ace00-2.0
`17:14.24`	`maia`	`Mikma: okay. cropping should be possible by taking a close look at the DAB code ;)`
`17:15.11`	`Kaelten`	`I will say this guys, Combine is very un impressive right now, :)`
`17:15.27`	`Kyahx`	`=( I'm unimpressed`
`17:15.58`	`Mikma`	`Kyahx: i don't wan't to add all features in core. i just wan't core to be core, and all the extragoodies as modules :)`
`17:16.02`	`Thiana`	`Kaelten: How is it going to compare to GEM/etc in terms of planned features?`
`17:16.06`	ag`	`oxman, update everything from the SVN and check one addon at a time`
`17:16.19`	`Kyahx`	`ah, You could look at Worf's CC_ stuff`
`17:16.23`	`Kyahx`	`thats small and modular`
`17:16.25`	`Kaelten`	`Thiana: Meet and exceed :)`
`17:16.31`	`Kyahx`	`or even oRA2`
`17:16.51`	`Kaelten`	`I will say that I'm planning to include nearly every feature of GC, and add some more.`
`17:17.47`	`Kyahx`	`:) I know it'll be good eventually Kael`
`17:18.06`	`maia`	`Kaelten: any ETA on Combine?`
`17:18.06`	`Kyahx`	`I'd expect no less from you!`
`17:18.15`	`Kyahx`	`"When it's done" :P`
`17:18.17`	`Kyahx`	`hehe`
`17:18.37`	`Kyahx`	`shit I need breakfast...and less enegergy right as I wake up.... O.O`
`17:19.04`	`Kaelten`	`maia: end of august is my goal, of course patch 1.12 is going to be a requirement`
`17:19.24`	`Kaelten`	`and it won't have 100% of the features at the point, but it should be functional`
`17:19.26`	`CIA-11`	`03jncl * r6982 10Zookeeper/ZooKeeper.lua: Zookeeper: changed PEW to MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED, seems to be more reliable, also added a command line option, ap, to Activate Pet`
`17:20.00`	`maia`	`Kaelten: okay... any screenshot we can have for now, to keep us hungry?`
`17:20.38`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`17:20.38`	`oxman`	ag` you've forget something
`17:20.47`	`Kaelten`	`I'll post something later today if you guys really want it`
`17:20.58`	`oxman`	`in the toc : libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua no ?`
`17:21.23`	`oxman`	`I've "attempt to call global "AceLibrary" a nil value (ag_UnitClass.lua:1)`
`17:21.50`	`oxman`	`hum sorry it's at the top of the .toc`
`17:21.55`	`oxman`	`but i've the bug :)`
`17:22.27`	ag`	`I am certain it's a conflict or something on your side`
`17:22.41`	ag`	`disable everything and update all addons from the SVN, enable one addon at a time`
`17:22.42`	`oxman`	`ok i disable all addons except aguf`
`17:22.43`	`*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`17:22.45`	`JoshBorke`	`hello`
`17:22.57`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight_: you here?`
`17:23.25`	`maia`	`hmm. frame question: I'd like to separate my border+bg from my main frame, so I can easily change it's alpha. I created a frame that is parented to my main frame, using strata BACKGROUND. Is that all I'd need, will it properly move with the rest?`
`17:23.38`	`JoshBorke`	`denied maia!`
`17:23.41`	`maia`	`(at the moment it's not showed at all, thats why I'm confused)`
`17:24.02`	`JoshBorke`	`did you set the points?`
`17:24.31`	`maia`	`ah`
`17:25.20`	`maia`	`good point.`
`17:25.24`	`Kaelten`	`maia: I use backdrops`
`17:25.35`	`JoshBorke`	`dewdrop question: when using the 'func' and 'arg1/arg2/arg3/arg4' options, do i need to specify the first 3 arg's to use the arg4?`
`17:25.35`	`Kaelten`	`but backdrops aren't textured`
`17:26.02`	`oxman`	ag` it's but with aguf + clique
`17:26.11`	`maia`	`Kaelten: at the moment I'm using backdrops too, but I'm unsure how I could change their alpha without changing the entire frames alpha`
`17:26.12`	`Kaelten`	`maia: but you can Frame:SetBackdropColor(R,G,B,A)`
`17:26.26`	`Kaelten`	`Frame:SetBackdropColor(R,G,B,A)`
`17:26.29`	`oxman`	`but/bug`
`17:26.37`	`maia`	`oh, wait, I also have textures.`
`17:26.38`	ag`	`update clique`
`17:26.43`	`oxman`	`i've update it`
`17:26.43`	`cladhaire`	`?`
`17:26.43`	`oxman`	`:)`
`17:26.44`	`maia`	`and gradient alphas.`
`17:27.03`	`Kaelten`	`on the textures you'd have to set their alphas independently`
`17:27.10`	`oxman`	`aguf + clique from SVN don't work`
`17:27.17`	`Kaelten`	`not sure what you mean about gradient alphas`
`17:27.33`	ag`	`oxman, what can I say, don't use clique then. I and Mikma uses aguf with clique, works fine...`
`17:27.42`	ag`	`or don't use aguf`
`17:27.42`	`oxman`	`hum in fact clique bug alone :D`
`17:27.42`	`maia`	`Kaelten:`
`17:27.50`	`cladhaire`	`?`
`17:27.52`	`maia`	`t1 = self.frames.main:CreateTexture(nil, "BACKGROUND"); t1:SetTexture("Interface\\ChatFrame\\ChatFrameBackground"); t1:SetGradientAlpha("VERTICAL", 0.1, 0.1, 0.1, 0, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 1)`
`17:27.54`	`cladhaire`	`clique is working fine fo rme.`
`17:28.04`	`oxman`	`for me too, before the last svn ;D`
`17:28.10`	`Kaelten`	`ah`
`17:28.11`	`oxman`	`i've update clique the last 5mn, and now it's bug`
`17:28.15`	`Kaelten`	`then you can set the alpha of the texture`
`17:28.23`	`cladhaire`	`what errors are you getting?`
`17:28.25`	`oxman`	`acelibrary a nil value, blabla clique.lua:13`
`17:28.28`	`maia`	`yeah...`
`17:29.24`	`cladhaire`	`is acelibrary is a nil value, then its not a clique issue`
`17:29.24`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`17:29.34`	`oxman`	`i've only clique enabled :`
`17:29.36`	`oxman`	`)`
`17:29.45`	`cladhaire`	`do you have AceLibrary in your .toc`
`17:29.47`	`cladhaire`	`and your libs directory`
`17:29.51`	`oxman`	`yep`
`17:29.53`	`oxman`	`the both`
`17:29.59`	`oxman`	`I know it's strange`
`17:30.01`	`maia`	`cladhaire: mmh: svn: REPORT of '/root/!svn/vcc/default': timed out waiting for server (http://svn.wowace.com)`
`17:30.06`	`oxman`	`I try a new update`
`17:30.30`	`cladhaire`	`i just updated from svn fine.`
`17:30.38`	`maia`	`interesting`
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`17:31.15`	`maia`	`cladhaire: yeah, its faster now. this error was from the update I started 40min ago, which just timed out`
`17:31.24`	`Mikma`	`is this possible: for i=1,5 j=6,10 do`
`17:31.27`	`cladhaire`	`well you can't let something go for 40 minutes,`
`17:31.33`	`Mikma`	`or do i have to do 2 for's?`
`17:31.43`	`Mikma`	`(didn't find help on that one in pil)`
`17:31.47`	`oxman`	`after the declaration do :`
`17:31.53`	`oxman`	`j = i +5`
`17:31.54`	`oxman`	`;D`
`17:32.13`	`Mikma`	`oxman: well that's not the point :P`
`17:32.23`	`maia`	`cladhaire: well, in the first 10min it updated AceAddon and AceConsole. about 10min later it was done with AceDB....`
`17:32.28`	`oxman`	`so you must do two loops if you want two loops`
`17:32.30`	`cladhaire`	`yeah thats bad.`
`17:32.32`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`17:32.35`	`oxman`	`it's ok now cladhaire :)`
`17:32.37`	`Mikma`	`oxman: ok, thanks`
`17:34.16`	`Mikma`	`this will propably make me to change my code again some but it's easier now :P`
`17:34.18`	`oxman`	ag` it's ok now ;)
`17:34.36`	`Mikma`	`no need to setpoint 200 different buttons now when i can do it in 2 loops :D`
`17:34.47`	`oxman`	`it's better ;p`
`17:34.54`	`oxman`	`and better to create the button when you need it`
`17:34.59`	`oxman`	`like in PR and other addons`
`17:34.59`	`oxman`	`;)`
`17:35.23`	`Mikma`	`oh PR, it got updated, lovely :)`
`17:35.57`	`oxman`	`hey clique have erase my config :\|`
`17:36.18`	`cladhaire`	`PR got updated?`
`17:36.18`	ag`	`Try to like run addons alone before reporting error ^_^`
`17:36.21`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`17:36.33`	`oxman`	`updated last two hours ;D`
`17:36.38`	`cladhaire`	`oxman: Clique only erases your config if you go from wowi versino to trunk version`
`17:36.43`	`oxman`	`new option "debuff background color" :D`
`17:36.50`	`oxman`	`it's that cladhaire :)`
`17:36.58`	`cladhaire`	`and it only does it once =)`
`17:36.58`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: yeah PW:S debuff/buff coloring :)`
`17:37.06`	`cladhaire`	`fun`
`17:37.14`	`Mikma`	`will change colors when the debuff ends, lovely`
`17:37.51`	`JoshBorke`	`oh yea! PR bug!`
`17:37.56`	`oxman`	`lol`
`17:37.59`	`oxman`	`which bug ?`
`17:38.05`	`JoshBorke`	`when using the /perfectraid scale <number>. it always reports that it changes it to 1`
`17:38.06`	`JoshBorke`	`:-D`
`17:38.21`	`oxman`	`Oh yes, I know that`
`17:38.26`	`oxman`	`It's a bug from cladhaire :D`
`17:38.35`	`oxman`	`I will look for that the next time`
`17:38.35`	`JoshBorke`	`~poke cladhaire`
`17:38.39`	`purl`	`ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind cladhaire, pokes cladhaire repeatedly, hilarity ensues.`
`17:38.52`	`oxman`	`but try "x.x" for scale`
`17:38.54`	`oxman`	`0.5`
`17:38.56`	`oxman`	`1.5`
`17:38.57`	`oxman`	`etc`
`17:39.04`	`JoshBorke`	`oh, the scaling works beautifully`
`17:39.06`	`JoshBorke`	`:-`
`17:39.07`	`JoshBorke`	`:-)`
`17:39.13`	`oxman`	`lol`
`17:42.47`	`oxman`	hum ag`, aguf don't allow right click on frame ?
`17:43.17`	`oxman`	`hum no it's ok`
`17:43.31`	`oxman`	`this is the menu of aguf, but in group the good menu`
`17:43.31`	`oxman`	`:)`
`17:46.25`	`haste`	`hehe, bots are fun`
`17:46.34`	`haste`	`you sap them, then they send their pets on a mob`
`17:46.45`	`haste`	`and then the pet dies, followed by the hunter`
`17:46.47`	`mjc`	`glider doesn't do that`
`17:46.50`	`Thiana`	`bots?`
`17:47.03`	`haste`	`My server is filled with L60 hunter bots :(`
`17:47.19`	`maia`	`btw. are there any attempts to create an addon that is compatible with DamageMeters (syncing), which is faster and uses all the shiny ace2 stuff?`
`17:47.55`	`mjc`	`not yet I don't think`
`17:47.58`	`mjc`	`I want one though`
`17:48.20`	`dsfsdf`	`So many SVN updates, so little time!`
`17:48.28`	`mjc`	`dsfsdf: true`
`17:48.43`	`maia`	`as class officer in my guild I need to watch what people are doing, but with DM enabled my fps drops from 6ish to 4ish in boss fights.`
`17:48.57`	`oxman`	`use sws_stats`
`17:49.58`	`dsfsdf`	`it's just sw_stats in case you go searching`
`17:51.12`	`oxman`	`ups :D`
`17:52.05`	`maia`	`ah, didn't find it before.`
`17:52.14`	`maia`	`but it's not compatible with DamageMeters :/`
`17:52.18`	`oxman`	`it's the best stat addon`
`17:52.22`	`oxman`	`forget dm :)`
`17:53.03`	`oxman`	`79% of frenchh use sw_stats :p`
`17:53.08`	`oxman`	`yep 79 not 78, not 80 :p`
`17:53.10`	`maia`	`oxman: I cant get my entire guild to transfer to DM`
`17:53.26`	`oxman`	`when your guild will see sw_stats`
`17:53.30`	`oxman`	`everybody will use it :)`
`17:53.43`	`oxman`	`it's useful for damage meter, healer, for all class in fact :)`
`17:53.44`	`maia`	`I doubt it. healers dont even want to use squishy ;)`
`17:53.53`	`oxman`	`squishy sux`
`17:53.55`	`maia`	`!!`
`17:53.57`	`oxman`	`and i'm priest`
`17:54.05`	`oxman`	`for two reason it sux :`
`17:54.10`	`oxman`	`the layout is not nice :D`
`17:54.14`	`JoshBorke`	`LOL`
`17:54.16`	`oxman`	`and, you can't set priority list`
`17:54.23`	`oxman`	`(the last is the most important :p)`
`17:54.26`	`JoshBorke`	`i believe maia is working on a priority list`
`17:54.48`	`oxman`	`and, it's too easy to heal with an emergency monitor with priority list`
`17:54.52`	`oxman`	`i prefer clique + PR`
`17:54.55`	`maia`	`oxman: I like the layout. it's similar to PR.`
`17:55.04`	`JoshBorke`	`well, i like the layout too you know!`
`17:55.07`	`oxman`	`try to be similar`
`17:55.09`	`oxman`	`but it's not`
`17:55.09`	`oxman`	`:)`
`17:55.10`	`maia`	`and as for priority lists: this is planned for 2.0`
`17:55.11`	`cladhaire`	`i don't like anythign that watches for me.. cause its tough to click on the same unit over and over again if you need to`
`17:55.44`	`oxman`	`with squishy and priority list, you click always (80% of case) for the first member in the list`
`17:55.46`	`oxman`	`so boring...`
`17:55.56`	`ckknight_`	`hey all, back`
`17:56.00`	`cladhaire`	`meh i guess i'm just old school l`
`17:56.01`	`oxman`	`hi`
`17:56.01`	`Thiana`	`wb`
`17:56.02`	`maia`	`oxman: well, thats a personal choice though.`
`17:56.02`	`JoshBorke`	`i prefer to heal the third person on the list :-)`
`17:56.03`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`17:56.17`	`ckknight_`	`JoshBorke, pong`
`17:56.22`	`oxman`	`one or third, it's always the same place to click :D`
`17:56.31`	`oxman`	`maia choice of lots of healer ;)`
`17:56.55`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`17:56.59`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: dewdrop question: when using the 'func' and 'arg1/arg2/arg3/arg4' options, do i need to specify the first 3 arg's to use the arg4?`
`17:57.06`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`17:57.09`	`maia`	`oxman: well, the problem I'm having with my priests is that they just stand around, not knowing who to heal if they are on spot heal duty.`
`17:57.12`	`FISKER_Q`	`lol`
`17:57.20`	`JoshBorke`	`i guess technically i'm a paladin, so i only heal myself`
`17:57.25`	`FISKER_Q`	`i think i just got a 100% way to reproduce the windrider bug`
`17:57.28`	`oxman`	`!?`
`17:57.30`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: you're killing me :-(`
`17:57.38`	`ckknight`	`JoshBorke, actually, no, but it'll be like nil, nil, nil, value if you do`
`17:57.41`	`maia`	`ckknight: AceOptions question: I'd want a "radiobuttons" option. how can I accomplish that, other than having several toggle options?`
`17:57.44`	`oxman`	`why you don't know who to heal !?`
`17:57.45`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: that's what i want :-D`
`17:58.01`	`JoshBorke`	`oxman: paladins only heal themselves of course`
`17:58.05`	`ckknight`	`maia, type = 'text' + validate is a tale`
`17:58.07`	`maia`	`oxman: I do. my newbie healers that just hit lvl60 are confused when staring at 40 health bars.`
`17:58.07`	`ckknight`	`table*`
`17:58.24`	`oxman`	`and you don't help it with this addon :p`
`17:58.25`	`maia`	`ckknight: but dewdrop doesnt show it as nice as radiobuttons would be.`
`17:58.29`	`oxman`	`it/them`
`17:58.29`	`oxman`	`:D`
`17:58.50`	`oxman`	`to help your newbie healer`
`17:58.54`	`maia`	`oxman: well, they'd at least stare on only 10 health bars. reduces decision making time ;)`
`17:58.59`	`ckknight`	`maia, yes it does.`
`17:59.00`	`oxman`	`give us a raid addon like PR or something with invert health bar`
`17:59.05`	`oxman`	`it's so easy to heal after that`
`17:59.11`	`oxman`	`add clique, and it's very easy`
`17:59.13`	`maia`	`ckknight: orly? nowai!`
`17:59.16`	`Kaelten`	`does lua have a function that will retun the Name of the months in text?`
`17:59.17`	`oxman`	`clique heal, clique heal, clique heal :')`
`17:59.19`	`oxman`	`so easy`
`17:59.20`	`cladhaire`	`maia: srsly`
`17:59.23`	`maia`	`:)`
`17:59.50`	`CIA-11`	`03mikma 07Mikma * r6983 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: Buttons renamed in .lua for easier coding :)`
`18:00.52`	`cladhaire`	`LFG World Dragons`
`18:00.56`	`maia`	`oxman: I'm glad you're not playing a mage. /assist xy /cast Frostbolt.`
`18:01.14`	`oxman`	`lots of class are boring in PVE`
`18:01.29`	`oxman`	`in my point of view only warrior (mt) and healer are fun in pve vhl`
`18:01.51`	`maia`	`well, lets agree on 2 facts: I personally like Squishy. And: I think some others do too.`
`18:01.56`	`oxman`	`all other class "dps dps dps stop dps, dps dps dps, stop dps"`
`18:01.59`	`oxman`	`so boring...`
`18:02.05`	`cladhaire`	`Squishy is great at what it does`
`18:02.09`	`cladhaire`	`but its not for everyone`
`18:02.12`	`cladhaire`	`its just for a lot of them =)`
`18:02.13`	`maia`	`can we also agree on fact3? That would be: Squishy is better than the CTRA emergency monitor`
`18:02.13`	`oxman`	`Yep, every addon will have this two points ;)`
`18:02.27`	`Zicon`	`Squishy is wuvely. <3`
`18:02.28`	`oxman`	`i don't use ctra emergency monitor`
`18:02.29`	`oxman`	`:')`
`18:02.30`	`maia`	`thanks, clad :)`
`18:02.43`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
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`18:02.55`	`haste`	`I just spent 100NOK on a water melon :D`
`18:03.24`	`oxman`	`Yep i agree, Squishy does a god joob, but i don't like this kind of addon :)`
`18:03.49`	`oxman`	`but in fact, priority list must be the first function in an emergency monitor :D`
`18:05.15`	`CIA-11`	`03maia * r6984 10Squishy/ (core.lua developer-todo.txt frames.lua): Squishy: backdrop on/off is now replaced by alpha slider. also, debugging will now remember its setting on relogging. please keep it enabled though ;)`
`18:05.42`	`oxman`	`you have add an option to remove the border ?`
`18:06.27`	`maia`	`I always had.`
`18:06.39`	`maia`	`I told you, it's very similar to PR`
`18:06.39`	`oxman`	`ok :p`
`18:06.47`	`oxman`	`very but not :D`
`18:06.57`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`18:07.01`	`oxman`	`for example i like the design of PR but not the design of Squishy`
`18:07.02`	`oxman`	`:D`
`18:07.13`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`18:08.13`	`oxman`	`cladhaire when the new PR will done ? ;p`
`18:08.15`	`JoshBorke`	`hm`
`18:09.42`	`Saroz`	`wow, squishy gave me 340kb/s in AV`
`18:09.58`	`oxman`	`hit maia ;D`
`18:09.59`	`maia`	`Saroz: huh?`
`18:10.02`	`maia`	`which version?`
`18:10.07`	`Saroz`	`SVN`
`18:10.09`	`maia`	`and how do you know it was Squishy?`
`18:10.19`	`Saroz`	`I disabled it and it went to 13 kb/s`
`18:10.31`	`oxman`	`which addon do you use for bandwith monitor ?`
`18:10.33`	`Saroz`	`and it threw a roster error`
`18:10.38`	`Saroz`	`oxman, memory`
`18:10.46`	`maia`	`Saroz: oh. then it's not Squishy but RosterLib.`
`18:10.47`	`oxman`	`available where ?`
`18:10.55`	`maia`	`Saroz: which error exactly please?`
`18:11.08`	`Saroz`	`something about having 29 in lib, but 30 members`
`18:11.12`	`Saroz`	`or something, was hours ago`
`18:11.47`	`maia`	`Saroz: well, I assume you have the version from yesterday. Until some hours ago Squishy added MCd mobs to its roster.`
`18:11.55`	`maia`	`it shouldnt do that anymore.`
`18:11.56`	`Saroz`	`hrrrm`
`18:11.58`	`Saroz`	`could be that`
`18:12.06`	`Saroz`	`MC in PVP is not unheard of`
`18:12.11`	`maia`	`yeah, someone reported it yesterday, about 20hrs ago.`
`18:12.20`	`maia`	`fixed it 19 hours ago.`
`18:12.23`	`maia`	`hopefully ;)`
`18:12.47`	`oxman`	`where i can get memory ?`
`18:12.56`	`Saroz`	`fubar`
`18:13.00`	`Saroz`	`performance`
`18:13.14`	`oxman`	`roh :\|`
`18:13.18`	`oxman`	`i don't want use fubar`
`18:13.24`	`oxman`	`i don't like addon like fubar/titan`
`18:13.25`	`Saroz`	`hehe`
`18:14.17`	`CIA-11`	`03maia * r6985 10RosterLib-2.0/RosterLib-2.0.lua: RosterLib: will now schedule a roster update for in .0.5sec instead of 0.1sec. So if you're in an endless loop for some terrible reason, mem usage will my lower. Shouldnt happen anymore though.`
`18:14.30`	`oxman`	`;D`
`18:14.54`	`maia`	`as for FuBar: I'd like to upgrade to Fu2, but I'm unsure if all my modules are 1.2. Any way to check if a module still is a 1.0 version that would break?`
`18:15.45`	`FryGuy`	`maia: i was having a problem with rosterlib`
`18:15.53`	`FryGuy`	`it would only get 1 person using the iterator`
`18:16.04`	`maia`	`I'm using BattlegroundFu, ClockFu, CorkFu, DurabilityFu, LocationFu, MoneyFu, PerformaceFu, ToFu and WhatsUp.`
`18:17.22`	`maia`	`FryGuy: did you try looping through the roster table directly? Maybe the roster only contained one person`
`18:17.34`	`FryGuy`	`ya that's what I ended up doing`
`18:17.49`	`maia`	`so :IterateRoster() doesn't work?`
`18:18.05`	`FryGuy`	`--for u in self.rosterlib:IterateRoster() do`
`18:18.05`	`FryGuy`	`for i,u in self.rosterlib.roster do`
`18:18.12`	`FryGuy`	`first one got one, second one worked`
`18:18.27`	`maia`	`thats weird`
`18:18.34`	`FryGuy`	`i agree :p`
`18:18.45`	`maia`	`because you've seen how short the iterator code is...`
`18:19.12`	`FryGuy`	`ya`
`18:19.20`	`maia`	`on the other hand, I don't like the iterator myself, as it will GC its return function all the time`
`18:19.23`	`FryGuy`	`although I never understood the interator stuff`
`18:19.32`	`FryGuy`	`iterator*`
`18:20.04`	`*** join/#wowace eternally777 (n=eternall@pool-72-70-158-89.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net)`
`18:20.53`	`ckknight`	`maia, 1.0 plugins will break. the ones you listed are 1.2`
`18:21.02`	`maia`	`ckknight: all of them? yay.`
`18:21.44`	`maia`	`ckknight: wondered if there's something like ShowModulesCompatVersion()`
`18:21.58`	`maia`	`listing all modules with either 1.0, 1.2 or 2.0`
`18:22.11`	`ckknight`	`no, I don't care enough to put that in`
`18:22.33`	`maia`	`;)`
`18:23.05`	`*** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com)`
`18:23.57`	`Saroz`	`why is everyone so hypped about easyraid`
`18:24.19`	`Kebinusan`	`they arent`
`18:25.28`	`Saroz`	`mmm`
`18:28.07`	`Saroz`	`uhm`
`18:30.32`	`Tuplad`	`they arent saroz`
`18:30.44`	`Tuplad`	`it's how people prefer their UI, I guess`
`18:30.50`	`Saroz`	`ok, AceConsole-2.0.lua:774: attempt to perform ariblabla on local a1 (a nil value)`
`18:30.56`	`Saroz`	`when i do /squishy`
`18:31.29`	`Saroz`	`core.lua:626: attempt to perform ariblala on field classmodifier a nil value`
`18:32.22`	`Kyahx`	`EasyRaid is nice if you use the default UI`
`18:32.26`	`Mikma`	`Oh i like that baby, i put on my robe and wizardhat`
`18:32.43`	`Kyahx`	`but its got the same memory churn problems as everything else :P`
`18:33.13`	`maia`	`Saroz: is this the latest version, including an updated RosterLib?`
`18:33.23`	`Saroz`	`SVN updated the folder just now`
`18:33.27`	`Saroz`	`so yea`
`18:33.34`	`maia`	`did you also update externals?`
`18:33.38`	`Saroz`	`hang on, let me exit game`
`18:33.39`	`Saroz`	`yea it does that`
`18:33.46`	`maia`	`because it's RosterLib that changed, not Squishy`
`18:33.52`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: tried it once - sucks even more than CTRA ;\`
`18:33.56`	`phyber`	`Mikma: fuck, not you again ;)`
`18:34.07`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: basically, it's fugly :)`
`18:34.38`	`Kyahx`	`I'm waiting for sRF to get good, so I can force my guild to 100% switch with little bitching :P`
`18:34.45`	`Saroz`	`get good?`
`18:34.51`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: :D`
`18:34.53`	`Tuplad`	`Kyahx: good idea`
`18:34.53`	`Mikma`	`phyber: whaaaat? :D`
`18:34.56`	`Kyahx`	`I havent used it for a week or so :P`
`18:34.57`	`Mikma`	`phyber: you hate me? :(`
`18:35.05`	`Saroz`	`Kyahx: go go update man`
`18:35.07`	`phyber`	`Mikma: that's one of the next lines from that quote`
`18:35.13`	`phyber`	`:)`
`18:35.18`	`Mikma`	`phyber: ;D`
`18:35.20`	`Kyahx`	`No raid untill tomarrow :) I'll play with them then`
`18:35.20`	`Saroz`	`maia, it worked after a game exit, sry`
`18:35.35`	`maia`	`Saroz: phew.`
`18:35.36`	`Kyahx`	`did you switch to a dirty roster to kill memory churn?`
`18:35.39`	`Saroz`	`:p`
`18:35.42`	`Mikma`	`i think i still have that line as my signature in wowace.com`
`18:35.48`	`Saroz`	`Kyahx, ye`
`18:35.51`	`Kyahx`	`yay!`
`18:35.59`	`Saroz`	`helped a lot`
`18:36.02`	`Saroz`	`like 13 kbs now`
`18:36.25`	`maia`	`Saroz: actually when nothing is happening but you're in a raid, my mem is at 1.5`
`18:36.50`	`maia`	`Saroz: aka if everyone is travelling to the instance or running back as corpses.`
`18:36.57`	`CIA-11`	`03joshborke * r6986 10HealthMon/ (HealthMon.lua HealthMonConstants.lua localisation.en.lua):`
`18:36.57`	`CIA-11`	`HealthMon:`
`18:36.58`	`CIA-11`	`- status bars fully functional`
`18:36.58`	`CIA-11`	`- can choose percentages.`
`18:37.02`	`Saroz`	`we'll see, doing onyxia now`
`18:37.06`	`oxman`	`you know an addon like performance fu but without fu dependency or titan ?`
`18:37.23`	`Saroz`	`I know there is one`
`18:37.25`	`oxman`	`JoshBorke what does healthmon do ?`
`18:37.27`	`Saroz`	`just don't recall the name`
`18:37.31`	`oxman`	`:/`
`18:37.41`	`Saroz`	`ah wait`
`18:37.44`	`Saroz`	`can find out`
`18:37.44`	`Tuplad`	`oxman: read toc :]`
`18:37.46`	`Kyahx`	`wasn't there an AceGC mod or something?`
`18:37.54`	`phyber`	`won't performancefu work on it's own? attaching to the minimap or something`
`18:37.57`	`Tuplad`	`o nvm`
`18:38.07`	`Mikma`	`hey, what does the green R mean in PerfectRaid?`
`18:38.08`	`JoshBorke`	`Oxman: it provides a little frame with a couple of status bars`
`18:38.12`	`JoshBorke`	`i'll give you a screenshot`
`18:38.13`	`Tuplad`	`oxman: an addon to track the health of a unit through a fight written by JoshBorke. Inspired by HealthHistory (http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1188)`
`18:38.14`	`Mikma`	`ooooh`
`18:38.15`	`Mikma`	`Renew :)`
`18:38.28`	`Tuplad`	`JoshBorke: give me a screenie too`
`18:38.41`	`maia`	`Kyahx: AceGCInfo?`
`18:38.44`	`Saroz`	`give`
`18:38.45`	`JoshBorke`	`sec, trying to beat AV que`
`18:38.49`	`Kyahx`	`maybe?`
`18:38.50`	`Tuplad`	`:D`
`18:38.57`	`Kyahx`	`Im makeing that guess sheerly off the name :P`
`18:39.11`	`JoshBorke`	`btw, it's nothing like healthhistory now :-D`
`18:39.28`	`JoshBorke`	`you can blame Mikk for that`
`18:40.09`	`oxman`	`oh ok`
`18:40.11`	`maia`	`JoshBorke: if HealthMon is what I think, this would be awesome MT frames.`
`18:40.53`	`Tuplad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:41.34`	`JoshBorke`	`http://img420.imageshack.us/my.php?image=healthmonnw7.jpg`
`18:41.37`	`maia`	`plus, show when the unit has aggro by e.g. coloring the bar slightly different...`
`18:41.45`	`Saroz`	`wth`
`18:42.01`	`maia`	`JoshBorke: hmm, thats smaller than I thought.`
`18:42.01`	`Tuplad`	`oO`
`18:42.16`	`maia`	`aka I can't really imagine what it does.`
`18:42.16`	`FryGuy`	`it's just a unitframe`
`18:42.17`	`FryGuy`	`?`
`18:42.29`	`oxman`	`+1 maia :D`
`18:42.30`	`JoshBorke`	`i guess action shots would be good`
`18:42.31`	`Tuplad`	`JoshBorke: give a bigger screenie`
`18:42.35`	`Saroz`	`same maia`
`18:42.48`	`JoshBorke`	`hm, let me try to get some action shots then`
`18:44.17`	`JoshBorke`	`basically all it does is display the DTPS and HTPS of a target`
`18:44.36`	`mjc`	`Mikma: how goes the offset stuff`
`18:44.46`	`oxman`	`DTPS ? :)`
`18:44.48`	`oxman`	`HTPS ?`
`18:44.53`	`oxman`	`Domage Total Per Second ?`
`18:45.00`	`Codayus`	`Damage Taken, at a guess.`
`18:45.01`	`oxman`	`H Heal blabla ?`
`18:45.03`	`maia`	`JoshBorke: as numbers or showing the history?`
`18:45.06`	`Codayus`	`And Healing Taken.`
`18:45.09`	`JoshBorke`	`maia: as numbers`
`18:45.09`	ag`	`clad your cure any won't take diseases`
`18:45.10`	`Mikma`	`mjc: what offset? :)`
`18:45.18`	`maia`	`JoshBorke: history would be nice though.`
`18:45.28`	`JoshBorke`	`maia: yea, but history eats more memory than you can imagine`
`18:45.30`	`mjc`	`Mikma: for bar2`
`18:45.34`	`maia`	`JoshBorke: orly?`
`18:45.39`	`Mikma`	`mjc: i'm not quite following you atm`
`18:45.49`	`mjc`	`positioning stuff`
`18:46.00`	`maia`	ag`: is it safe to replace the latest MG by agUF?
`18:46.02`	`JoshBorke`	`yarly. to get any sort of accuracy. recording at 1 time per second over a fight would be 3600 seconds for a 6 minute fight`
`18:46.21`	`maia`	`JoshBorke: well, I think it's enough to show the last 15sec.`
`18:46.23`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6987 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - typo .data -> .db.profile`
`18:46.24`	`JoshBorke`	`though, if i drop the whole idea of retroactively displaying it, i guess it wouldn't be too bad`
`18:46.35`	`JoshBorke`	`could pre-grab all the memory i need`
`18:46.37`	`ckknight`	`JoshBorke, 360 seconds`
`18:46.42`	`maia`	`lol`
`18:46.44`	`JoshBorke`	`ckknight: math not so easy`
`18:46.45`	`JoshBorke`	`lol`
`18:46.49`	`Mikma`	`mjc: umh, AceDB? :)`
`18:47.05`	`JoshBorke`	`maia: but yes, i wanted to do a graph first`
`18:47.17`	`maia`	`Kaelten: Combine is really, really nice. Lots of green boxes doing nothing ;p`
`18:47.18`	`mjc`	`someone was telling you to look at DAB`
`18:47.20`	`mjc`	`:p`
`18:47.29`	`Mikma`	`mjc: umh hell no :D`
`18:47.39`	ag`	`maia, yes`
`18:47.39`	`Codayus`	`Perform a FFT on the data, and aproximate it with simple curves?`
`18:47.47`	`Mikma`	ag`: feature-request!!!
`18:47.48`	ag`	`maia, some features are missing but sure`
`18:47.51`	`Codayus`	`(Note: Joke.)`
`18:47.52`	`maia`	ag`: such as?
`18:48.00`	`JoshBorke`	`maia: this is what it originally looed like: http://joshborke.is-a-geek.com:90/gallery/Public/healthmon`
`18:48.02`	`mjc`	`Codayus: haha`
`18:48.09`	`Mikma`	ag`: PerfectRaid layout to have the same kind of buff-displays like PerfectRaid has :D
`18:48.14`	ag`	`maia, you can't set auras to dock position and raid groups doesn't stick together yet`
`18:48.23`	`maia`	`Codayus: well, thats a nice suggestion. how about AceFourierLib-2.0?`
`18:48.32`	`maia`	ag`: okay. think I can live with that.
`18:48.38`	`Codayus`	`maia: I'll put that on my todo list.`
`18:48.42`	`Codayus`	`:-)`
`18:48.50`	`maia`	`seriously? :)`
`18:48.50`	`ckknight`	`actually it should go into AceUtils-Maths-2.0`
`18:48.54`	`maia`	`haha`
`18:49.14`	`Codayus`	`Well...given how fast I knock items off my todo list...`
`18:49.25`	`mjc`	`Mikma: well anyways my bars got messed up, any way to clear the settings without relogging?`
`18:49.27`	`Codayus`	`It hardly matters if I ACTUALLY put it on their or not.`
`18:50.30`	`Mikma`	`mjc: /script BarDB = nil and /rl`
`18:50.48`	`Mikma`	`mjc: yeah they might get borked much before there is a "decent" version around :D`
`18:50.49`	ag`	`maia, but other than that I would say that the dewdrop config menu rocks, the code is better and there's fewer bugs... Some new features that wasn't in before`
`18:51.05`	`mjc`	`Mikma: ok, and I have one bar behind another, :Move doesn't seem to let me drag them`
`18:51.12`	`Kaelten`	`whoever was wanting a screen shot,`
`18:51.13`	`Kaelten`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1828.new#new`
`18:51.25`	`JoshBorke`	`er, when i set my scale to 2, i lose a letter on my name..`
`18:51.52`	`mjc`	`nm it got reset when I =nil it :)`
`18:51.56`	`Mikma`	`mjc: really? hmm`
`18:52.19`	`maia`	`Kaelten: thats a nice calendar.`
`18:52.21`	`CIA-11`	`03kaelten * r6988 10Combine/ (Combine.lua Combine.xml locals.lua):`
`18:52.21`	`CIA-11`	`Combine -`
`18:52.21`	`CIA-11`	`-Calendar view improved`
`18:52.21`	`CIA-11`	`-Highlights current day with dark green glow.`
`18:52.21`	`CIA-11`	`-Now shows the date, and can traverse between months.`
`18:52.25`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, my mouse battery is kinda dead. This is putting something of a damper on my plans to do stuff other than hang around irc making silly suggestions...`
`18:52.33`	`mjc`	`3rd action bar was behind second one. I know I dind't move it there`
`18:52.34`	`Kaelten`	`maia: lol`
`18:52.43`	`maia`	`Kaelten: can I put shards in it?`
`18:52.44`	`Kaelten`	`thanks, like I said not much to it yet`
`18:52.58`	`JoshBorke`	`bigger healthmon: http://img327.imageshack.us/my.php?image=healthmonbigtq8.jpg`
`18:53.15`	`Codayus`	`Hey, nifty calendar.`
`18:53.33`	`Kaelten`	`Codayus: lol, thanks,`
`18:53.37`	`maia`	`PerfectRaid doesnt have a dewdrop somewhere, does it?`
`18:53.53`	`oxman`	`not again`
`18:53.53`	`oxman`	`:)`
`18:53.57`	`Kaelten`	`One thing I'm trying to figure out is how to have a graphical notification of events.`
`18:54.10`	`oxman`	`if cladhaire don't do that, i will do for the next version`
`18:54.14`	ag`	`maia, also where MG was 6-7000 lines aguf is 3000-3500 lines of code`
`18:54.30`	ag`	`and AceOO`
`18:54.44`	`maia`	ag`: nice.
`18:54.45`	`oxman`	`In my point of view, 3000 is biggest for a unit frame addon`
`18:54.55`	`oxman`	`but its better than 6000 ;)`
`18:54.59`	`cladhaire`	`oxman: Hrm?`
`18:55.24`	`haste`	`oUF2 is ~1500`
`18:55.35`	`oxman`	`it's nice haste :)`
`18:55.43`	`haste`	`wish I had delayed it more :(`
`18:55.48`	ag`	`the main code is actually 2600`
`18:55.52`	`Kaelten`	`OneBag is only 189 :)`
`18:55.57`	ag`	`but I've counted the template and themes in`
`18:56.01`	`haste`	`Ace2 came two weeks after I had finished it or something :p`
`18:56.06`	`mjc`	`mg was pretty suck :(`
`18:56.24`	`Kaelten`	`although OneCore is about 777 including options table`
`18:58.20`	`ckknight`	`I should make my own unit frames`
`18:58.23`	`ckknight`	`on 1 line.`
`18:58.27`	`ckknight`	`zomg awesome`
`18:58.32`	`Kaelten`	`bah`
`18:58.33`	`oxman`	`:p`
`18:58.37`	`Kaelten`	`finish Fubar2 first!`
`18:58.38`	`Kaelten`	`hehe`
`18:58.40`	`ckknight`	`jk, btw`
`18:58.48`	`ckknight`	`you finish FuBar2 first`
`18:58.53`	`oxman`	`do you have a screen about fubar2 ?`
`18:58.54`	`Thrae`	`Line 1 - CallDoEverything(), done`
`18:58.57`	`*** join/#wowace Grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.152.210.62.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)`
`18:59.01`	`CIA-11`	`03maia * r6989 10Squishy/ (Squishy.toc core.lua developer-todo.txt frames.lua):`
`18:59.01`	`CIA-11`	`Squishy: - options "frame" and "solomode" now merged to: /squishy frame ["always", "grouped", "never"].`
`18:59.01`	`CIA-11`	`- fixed typo`
`18:59.01`	`CIA-11`	`- updated version number`
`18:59.02`	`ckknight`	`actually I'm workin on it now`
`18:59.07`	`Kaelten`	`cool`
`18:59.08`	`ckknight`	`oxman, a screen?`
`18:59.11`	`oxman`	`yep`
`18:59.22`	`Tuplad`	`screenie ?`
`18:59.22`	`maia`	`I'd have a braille terminal for you`
`18:59.30`	`Kaelten`	`I've had some people tell me FubarPlugin2 crashed Fubar1, not sure if thats still an issue or not.`
`18:59.35`	`oxman`	`screenshot`
`18:59.35`	`oxman`	`:)`
`18:59.50`	`ckknight`	`oxman, find a picture of FuBar 1.2`
`18:59.53`	`ckknight`	`pretend it's FuBar 2`
`18:59.59`	`mjc`	`Mikma: stealth/unstealth bar switching is broken`
`19:00.05`	`Kaelten`	`hehe, ya fubar2 looks just like fbuar1.2`
`19:00.06`	`oxman`	`lol ok`
`19:00.10`	`ckknight`	`they look the same (except the dropdown menu)`
`19:00.12`	`Mikma`	`mjc: nope it ain't, they are different bars now`
`19:00.13`	`FISKER_Q`	`^^`
`19:00.16`	`oxman`	`what's the difference so ?`
`19:00.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`the dropdown menu have tooltips`
`19:00.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`:O`
`19:00.19`	`Mikma`	`mjc: Bar1 and Bar10`
`19:00.23`	`FISKER_Q`	`it's using ace2`
`19:00.25`	`mjc`	`Mikma: well they are both set to show`
`19:00.36`	`Mikma`	`mjc: the latest revision?`
`19:00.36`	`oxman`	`ok so, do you have a screen of fubar1.x ? :D`
`19:00.39`	`mjc`	`yep`
`19:00.47`	`FISKER_Q`	`i think i can cook one up`
`19:00.51`	`Kyahx`	`FuBar needs a stolen Titan texture to truely conquor the world.`
`19:01.02`	`Mikma`	`mjc: try /script Bartender:UPDATE_BONUS_ACTIONBAR()`
`19:01.03`	`Tuplad`	`http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Combine/ -> like GroupCalendar?`
`19:01.05`	`FISKER_Q`	`nah`
`19:01.06`	`Mikma`	`does it help at all?`
`19:01.13`	`Kyahx`	`Tuplad: eventually`
`19:01.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`wanna get away from the titan memories`
`19:01.19`	`Kaelten`	`Tuplad: and more is the plan`
`19:01.22`	`cladhaire`	`why, fubar + fuxpfu == teh win`
`19:01.23`	`ckknight`	`Kyahx, I already did`
`19:01.24`	`Tuplad`	`Kaelten: <3`
`19:01.33`	`ckknight`	`was kinda meh`
`19:01.44`	`Tuplad`	`KyahxFuBar needs a stolen Titan texture to truely conquor the world.`
`19:01.45`	`Tuplad`	`nevar!`
`19:02.56`	`cladhaire`	`woot just sold [Pattern: Truefaith Vestments]`
`19:02.59`	`mjc`	`Mikma: doesn't seem ot hafve done anything`
`19:03.05`	`mjc`	`Mikma: when I stealth, none show at all`
`19:03.07`	`Tuplad`	`cladhaire: epix ?`
`19:03.20`	`FISKER_Q`	`screenshot coming up`
`19:03.31`	`Jens`	`<haste> Jens: trigger back <-- now I forgot why I triggered you.`
`19:03.39`	`cladhaire`	`and swiftmend == teh win`
`19:05.04`	`FISKER_Q`	`http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8254/fubaroe4.jpg`
`19:05.20`	`oxman`	`thanks`
`19:05.22`	`FryGuy`	`can you upload the new version of BW to wowi? :p`
`19:05.28`	`Jens`	`BW Hallar mod seems to be bugged.`
`19:05.35`	`Jens`	`*Hakkar`
`19:06.28`	`maia`	`FuBar noob question: when upgrading to Fu2 and when still using 1.2 mods, do I need FuBar-compat-1.2 only, or also FuBarPlugin-1.2 plus FuBar-Plugin-2.0?`
`19:06.33`	`Mikma`	`mjc: i'll have to look at it when this raid is over`
`19:06.37`	`FISKER_Q`	`just fubar-compat`
`19:06.44`	`maia`	`okay, thanks`
`19:06.51`	`ckknight`	`maia, FuBar-compat-1.2 is its own addon`
`19:06.58`	`ckknight`	`includes FBP-1.2`
`19:07.25`	`maia`	`aah, okay.`
`19:08.18`	`mjc`	`perfectraidframe is using the most memory of any frame atm it seems`
`19:08.46`	`oxman`	`the most ?`
`19:09.55`	`teedog`	`are you going by warmup figures?`
`19:11.44`	`Jens`	`haste: Oh yea now I remember. I wanted to ask you to add an option to otravi_CastingBar to move the delay time into the bar itself - but I hacked that myself.`
`19:12.33`	`FISKER_Q`	`btw any of you in the Burning Crusade beta?`
`19:12.50`	`Jens`	`I wasn't aware there even was a beta.`
`19:12.51`	`mjc`	`no`
`19:13.06`	`Soltanis`	`don't think anyone would be allowed to tell you , even if they were`
`19:13.11`	`Kaelten`	`I should be if they ever send out invites`
`19:13.24`	`FISKER_Q`	`of course they're allowed to tell you if you're in the beta :)`
`19:13.38`	`FISKER_Q`	`but i didn't meant playing the beta just if they had the blizzcon key or had won the contests`
`19:14.00`	`Kaelten`	`I have a blizzcon key`
`19:14.15`	`FISKER_Q`	`feel kinda stupid when i read on the forums that everyone participating in the PTR contests won :(`
`19:14.35`	`phyber`	`their method of getting into beta sucked. go to blizzcon or pvp till you die? :/`
`19:14.49`	`FISKER_Q`	`nah`
`19:14.55`	`mjc`	`hmm.`
`19:14.57`	`mjc`	`Iceroth: ping`
`19:14.58`	`FISKER_Q`	`go to blizzcon or kill a single person in a pvp fight`
`19:15.00`	`FISKER_Q`	`basically`
`19:15.01`	`kergoth`	`Kaelten: woot, so happy to see someone working on a groupcalendar replacement. its such an inefficient beast`
`19:15.06`	`Iceroth`	`mjc, pong`
`19:15.16`	`mjc`	`Iceroth: hakkar isn't a world boss, he's just a boss :)`
`19:15.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`or go to blizzcon or kill a single mob`
`19:15.30`	`Jens`	`I just pugged Hakkar... mistake.`
`19:15.35`	`Kaelten`	`kergoth: heh, maybe you could give me some input on how to handle the graphical representation of events on the calendar`
`19:16.37`	`Iceroth`	`i'm pulling it from UnitClassification(), all bosses are world bosses according to it`
`19:18.08`	`CIA-11`	`03joshborke * r6990 10HealthMon/HealthMon.lua:`
`19:18.08`	`CIA-11`	`HealthMon:`
`19:18.09`	`CIA-11`	`- made the name shorter`
`19:18.19`	`Thrae`	`I don't think WoW treats Bosses and World Bosses differently in the Unit API`
`19:18.34`	`Thrae`	`Just uses getglobal("BOSS") for both from GlobalStrings.lua`
`19:18.55`	`maia`	`Kaelten: are you looking for a way to display new events?`
`19:20.44`	`Kaelten`	`maia: just looking for ideas about how to display events in general`
`19:20.50`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: how do i turn the debugmessages off in clique?`
`19:21.00`	`Kaelten`	`maia I want you to be able tog et an idea of whats going on just by looking over the calendar`
`19:21.02`	`maia`	`I'd love to see something like osx dahsboard widgets - aka the entire screen dims a bit to black, and some widgets fade in.`
`19:21.13`	`maia`	`Kaelten: oh`
`19:21.31`	`cladhaire`	`mikma Clique:SetDebugLeve()`
`19:21.39`	`cladhaire`	`SetDebugLevel() rather`
`19:21.41`	`Mikma`	`0 will do propably?`
`19:21.49`	`cladhaire`	`no, just leave it blank.`
`19:22.07`	`Mikma`	`error? hmm`
`19:22.31`	`Mikma`	`bar argument #1 to "SetDebugLevel" (number expected, got nil)`
`19:22.38`	`oxman`	`lol !`
`19:22.39`	`oxman`	`:)`
`19:22.50`	`Iceroth`	`got bit of a praid problems: http://iceroth.net/wow/praid.jpg - left side bars overlap a bit with that texture, right side those backdrounds got stuck but ppl didn't have any debuffs`
`19:23.42`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: yeah doesn't work only pops an error`
`19:23.56`	`cladhaire`	`ok, then pass it a 0`
`19:24.00`	`cladhaire`	`thats weird tho`
`19:24.00`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`19:24.05`	`maia`	`Kaelten: maybe something like http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3100/calendarvh2.png ?`
`19:24.07`	`cladhaire`	`damn cladhaire`
`19:24.27`	`Mikma`	`lol with 0 i get a BigWigs error`
`19:24.34`	`Mikma`	`i think i should update something... :D`
`19:25.07`	`Mikma`	`BigWigs AceDebug-2.0 error :D muah yeah i'll update after this raid then :P`
`19:25.29`	`cladhaire`	`and you'r edoing Clique:SetDebugLevel(0)?`
`19:25.33`	`Mikma`	`yeap :D`
`19:25.56`	`maia`	`addon library suggestion. one that might rock. provide something that will allow addon frames to be widgets on a dashboard. see: http://www.apple.com/macosx/theater/dashboard.html`
`19:25.56`	`Mikma`	`BigWigs\Libs\AceDebugblahblah: 108: attempt to index global 'AceModuleCore' (a nil value)`
`19:26.10`	`kergoth`	`Mikma: the path acedebug is in doesnt mean a thing. its a lib. that just happens to have been the first addon to load the latest version of hte lib`
`19:26.16`	`kergoth`	`so its an acedebug error.`
`19:26.30`	`maia`	`(obviously with less 3d effects, but basically the same)`
`19:27.01`	`Mikma`	`well i still think i need to update my addons if i get an error like that :)`
`19:27.12`	`cladhaire`	`its a normal error`
`19:27.17`	`cladhaire`	`not an error "like that"`
`19:27.37`	`CIA-11`	`03kaelten * r6991 10Combine/Combine.lua:`
`19:27.37`	`CIA-11`	`Combine -`
`19:27.37`	`CIA-11`	`- Made highlight a little brighter.`
`19:28.04`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: well i think my libs are outdated then, and it has nothing to do with clique`
`19:28.12`	`Kaelten`	`I gotta run guys, I'll be back in a bit.`
`19:28.14`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`19:30.05`	`kergoth`	`"Too bad the only people who know how to run the country are busy driving cabs and cutting hair."`
`19:30.18`	`maia`	ag`: still there?
`19:30.50`	ag`	`yes`
`19:30.54`	ag`	`kinda`
`19:31.02`	ag`	`I am dead in AB so I am alt-tabbed`
`19:31.05`	ag`	`time's up`
`19:31.32`	`maia`	`just pulled agUF from the SVN. lots of bugs when logging in`
`19:31.52`	`maia`	`unfortunately I can't copy paste from the Ace2 BugSack as I just realized, gah.`
`19:32.18`	`maia`	`oh, wait. actually it's Clique having problems with agUF`
`19:33.25`	ag`	`update clique or something`
`19:33.27`	`maia`	`disabling Clique and getting the latest version`
`19:33.47`	ag`	`I remembered oxman saying something about that too`
`19:33.51`	`oxman`	`:]`
`19:33.54`	ag`	`I guess he just updated it`
`19:34.02`	`oxman`	`it's that`
`19:34.07`	`cladhaire`	`which is odd, since nothing's changed in clique.`
`19:35.13`	ag`	`all I know is that if you have a version of clique from before I moved unit objects into aUF.units you will get errors`
`19:36.18`	`maia`	`let me configure aguf first, then I'll reenable clique :)`
`19:36.21`	`cladhaire`	`well ox was using the version from WoWI`
`19:36.24`	`cladhaire`	`that's an entirely different issue.`
`19:36.29`	`oxman`	`yep`
`19:36.59`	`ckknight`	`phyber, ping`
`19:37.08`	`phyber`	`ckknight, pong`
`19:37.13`	`ckknight`	`fixed the bug`
`19:37.19`	`phyber`	`\o/`
`19:37.23`	`phyber`	`thanks :)`
`19:37.56`	`ckknight`	`committing now`
`19:38.07`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6992 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - bugfix in :TriggerEvent, now it doesn't fuck up on once events`
`19:38.20`	`maia`	ag`: it would be nice to have an option to configure all frames at once - right now I'm clicking through all unit types to change the layout (or any other setting)
`19:38.52`	`cladhaire`	ag`: I agree.
`19:39.00`	`*** join/#wowace Firedancer (n=Miranda@cpe-72-226-187-185.twcny.res.rr.com)`
`19:39.01`	`phyber`	`heh, I figured it was something to do with the once event when I looked at fubar.lua :)`
`19:39.45`	`ckknight`	ag`, I also agree
`19:39.55`	ag`	`agree with what? Maia?`
`19:39.58`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`19:40.27`	`Mikma`	`i must say this is _REALLY_ funny :D`
`19:40.48`	`Mikma`	`people using CTRA don't see the MT windows if another people with ctra assing them`
`19:41.05`	`Mikma`	`but when i do it with oRA/oRA_Menu .. works for everyone`
`19:41.12`	`cladhaire`	ag`: with maia, yes
`19:41.21`	`kergoth`	`Mikma: hah`
`19:42.38`	`maia`	ag`: also, pets are missing "hide frames in raid" option
`19:42.51`	`maia`	ag`: interestingly group units have their option, but not their pets.
`19:43.09`	`*** part/#wowace Grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.152.210.62.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)`
`19:43.25`	`maia`	ag`: also, what is "extended statusbars"?
`19:44.54`	`kloppe`	`maia: try toggling it with the oUF style :)`
`19:45.22`	`Amadeo`	`is that the only style it works with?`
`19:45.30`	`Amadeo`	`if so, it shouldn't appear for the other styles, eh?`
`19:45.41`	`Amadeo`	`I've wondered the same thing :)`
`19:46.05`	`Mikma`	`~slap SVN`
`19:46.11`	`purl`	`ACTION slaps SVN, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`19:46.11`	`Kebinusan`	`bleh I miss engInventory`
`19:46.21`	`maia`	ag`: finally, I miss an option to increase the font size. I'd want the frames small, but the names still readable. especially for raid frames.
`19:46.35`	`Kebinusan`	`~whaletubes SVN`
`19:46.37`	`purl`	`ACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into SVN's tubes. SVN's internets no worky :(`
`19:46.48`	`kloppe`	`Amadeo: no idea, never tried it with any other style`
`19:46.49`	ag`	`maia, how about scaling?`
`19:47.08`	`maia`	ag`: if I scale them down, the text will scale down too
`19:47.15`	ag`	`I mean scale up`
`19:48.09`	`maia`	ag`: then the frames will grow too.
`19:48.13`	`ckknight`	`~internet`
`19:48.15`	`purl`	`the internet is not something you can just dump on, it's not a big truck, it's a series of tubes.`
`19:48.15`	`maia`	ag`: see: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3635/agufzl2.png
`19:48.24`	`Amadeo`	`The fonts get blurry in agUF if you scale too large`
`19:48.29`	`Amadeo`	`at least for me`
`19:48.41`	`maia`	ag`: this is at 100% scale, 800x600 (aka when I play wow in windowed mode on my 1024x768 laptop)
`19:48.50`	`maia`	ag`: names are pretty unreadable.
`19:49.12`	`oxman`	`you don't need name`
`19:49.14`	`oxman`	`only the class`
`19:49.14`	`oxman`	`;D`
`19:49.23`	ag`	`maia, have you tried 110% scale? :P or 120? :P`
`19:49.56`	`maia`	ag`: 40 raid members with 100% scale take up >50% of the entire screen
`19:50.20`	`*** join/#wowace Syzx (n=syzx@82.192.87.96)`
`19:50.24`	`maia`	`at least using the default aguf theme. I know PR theme is smaller, but then I could use PR, couldnt I? ;)`
`19:50.44`	`maia`	ag`: just make the font size larger. thats all I'm asking for :)
`19:51.07`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: i just updated BW2, Clique, etc, etc and still the same errors`
`19:51.18`	`cladhaire`	`WHAT ERRORS`
`19:51.21`	`cladhaire`	`you always say you get errors`
`19:51.24`	`cladhaire`	`but dont say what they are =)`
`19:51.25`	ag`	`I can make a font size modifier`
`19:51.29`	`Syzx`	`how do I register a new FuBar texture? I'm using FuBar:RegisterSkin(name,texture). But it's giving an error when I select the texture from the dropdown. The texture changes after a while though, but I cant chagne back to default. :S`
`19:51.32`	`Mikma`	`i DID write them down here`
`19:51.34`	`maia`	ag`: that would be nice.
`19:51.46`	ag`	`but anyway, just change the theme file`
`19:51.53`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: <2222> <Mikma> bar argument #1 to "SetDebugLevel" (number expected, got nil)`
`19:52.00`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: <2225> <Mikma> BigWigs AceDebug-2.0 error :D muah yeah i'll update after this raid then :P`
`19:52.06`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: so do CLique:SetDebugLevel(0)`
`19:52.09`	`cladhaire`	`like i said a half hour ago`
`19:52.13`	ag`	`ag_unitframes/layouts/auf.lua`
`19:52.20`	ag`	`*abf even`
`19:52.31`	`oxman`	`I like abf layout :)`
`19:52.40`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: <2225> <Mikma> BigWigs\Libs\AceDebugblahblah: 108: attempt to index global 'AceModuleCore' (a nil value)`
`19:53.06`	`maia`	ag`: editing it this moment
`19:53.32`	ag`	`feel free to commit a theme if you want`
`19:53.37`	`maia`	ag`: also hiding level and class, no need if I color bars by class and in an end-game instance ;)
`19:53.38`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: give me a second`
`19:53.50`	`cladhaire`	`you can't always assume that its a "Zomhg update svn"`
`19:53.53`	`cladhaire`	`that just wastes time`
`19:54.04`	`maia`	ag`: its not hidden = true to hide something - what is it?
`19:54.09`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: i'm not expecting that no, i just let you know that it won't work`
`19:55.12`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire * r6993 10Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua: AceDebug: Fixed a copy-paste error`
`19:55.48`	ag`	`Hidden = true,`
`19:56.01`	ag`	`maybe I should change things to lower case`
`19:56.09`	`Syzx`	`ckknight: how do I add textures to the FuBar texture menu?`
`19:56.16`	`maia`	ag`: aah. and: was I dreaming or did you post a screenshot from raid frames grouped by class?
`19:56.35`	`maia`	ag`: so I assume there might be a hidden command to switch between group sorting and class sorting, is there?
`19:57.06`	ag`	`nope, no hidden option`
`19:57.08`	`maia`	ag`: (sorry for all the questions)
`19:57.09`	ag`	`it's all in the dewdrop`
`19:57.55`	`maia`	ag`: aah. missed it. too many options ;p
`19:58.01`	`Amadeo`	`yeah I saw the raid frames grouped by class`
`19:58.02`	`Amadeo`	`thought it rocked`
`19:58.14`	`ckknight`	`Syzx, FuBar:RegisterSkin("name", "filepath")`
`19:59.05`	`Syzx`	`ckknight: I'm getting an error when I select it from the dropdown :(`
`19:59.12`	`Syzx`	`i'll install bugsack, sec`
`19:59.31`	`Mikma`	`Tem: i think you have externals(?) wrong on IDCard, since i get folders like Libs/AceDebug in my IDCard folder :)`
`19:59.37`	`maia`	ag`: last question (hopefully): is there a way to create virtual raid frames, or do I need to wait until I join a raid to setup aguf raid settings?
`19:59.43`	`*** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=chatzill@44.80-202-38.nextgentel.com)`
`20:00.03`	`vhaarr`	`maia: did you remove the scaling option from squishy?`
`20:00.13`	`maia`	`vhaarr: no, I didnt?`
`20:00.17`	`oxman`	`maia it's an intersting question because i want add that to develop PR :D`
`20:00.27`	`Syzx`	`ckknight: Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua:32:attempt to index field 'class' (a nill value)`
`20:00.34`	`vhaarr`	`maia: ah, I see it's still in the aceconsole, but not in the dewdrop`
`20:00.40`	`phyber`	`wow, I wonder which addon just fucked up and gave me 251 errors when opening the auction house.`
`20:00.46`	`vhaarr`	`maia: anyway it was possible to set it to 150 or 200 before, now it's only up to 100`
`20:00.47`	`maia`	`vhaarr: hmm, need to fix that. sorry.`
`20:00.50`	`vhaarr`	`maia: it's way too small for me`
`20:01.01`	`maia`	`vhaarr: probably only a typo somewhere`
`20:01.05`	`vhaarr`	`maia: cool`
`20:01.06`	ag`	`maia, yeah`
`20:01.44`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6994 10FuBar/FuBar_Panel.lua: FuBar - fixed texture swapping`
`20:01.48`	`ckknight`	`Syzx, ;-)`
`20:01.55`	`Syzx`	`ha, thanks`
`20:02.30`	`maia`	`vhaarr: actually I wonder if it's a bug with a library. I didnt change scaling. it should still be visible in the dewdrop`
`20:02.55`	ag`	`maia, actually I might have removed that option but try the command "aUF:CreateObject(name,unit,type)"`
`20:03.17`	ag`	`just leave out type`
`20:03.36`	`maia`	`vhaarr: because I'm pretty sure it worked when uploading it. now after updating all Ace* libraries, its gone.`
`20:03.49`	`*** join/#wowace Gngsk (n=gngsk@c-68-33-204-115.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`20:03.50`	ag`	`name is what you want to call the object (doesn't matter really) and type is what you want to call the unit`
`20:03.52`	`phyber`	`Syzx: was that an error from swapping with FuTextures?`
`20:04.00`	ag`	`or rather what unit you want to observe`
`20:04.20`	`JoshBorke`	`bye all`
`20:04.20`	`*** part/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu)`
`20:04.29`	ag`	`but that's might now what you were asking for :P`
`20:04.33`	ag`	`*not`
`20:05.03`	`Syzx`	`phyber: With using the same way of registering textures, yes.`
`20:05.05`	`maia`	ag`: hmm, getting an error whent trying that. but I need to find out why squishy scaling is gone now... :)
`20:05.15`	ag`	`ok^`
`20:05.19`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight_ (i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com)`
`20:05.40`	`Syzx`	`ckknight: it's still not working properly, I can swap once, but the button (o) thingy is not changing. And when selectign default it's not swapping back.`
`20:05.44`	`Syzx`	`no errors though`
`20:07.00`	`*** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@p54846EFC.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`20:07.24`	`ckknight_`	`Syzx, blah`
`20:07.28`	`Makk`	`me and my bars again :P`
`20:07.32`	`ckknight_`	`maybe I should test it`
`20:07.43`	`Makk`	`Need a simple action-bar addon`
`20:07.54`	`ckknight_`	`Makk, Bartender?`
`20:07.56`	`Makk`	`Cardbars-style, nothing fancy`
`20:07.59`	`Makk`	`ah, good idea`
`20:08.05`	`ckknight_`	`I like it`
`20:08.07`	`Amadeo`	`ckknight saves`
`20:08.11`	`Mikma`	`Makk: ackbar or bartender`
`20:08.16`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`20:08.19`	`ckknight`	`right, Amadeo`
`20:08.21`	`Mikma`	`ackbar is more like CardBars`
`20:08.30`	`Amadeo`	`how do they differ?`
`20:08.43`	`maia`	ag`: aUF doesnt have pet happiness yet, right?
`20:09.06`	`ckknight`	`Syzx, send me your texture`
`20:09.11`	`Amadeo`	maia: ag` told me the pet health color changes based on happiness when I asked that, but I forgot to check :)
`20:09.16`	`maia`	ag`: because interestingly it now doesnt even show happiness for my pet in the tooltip. wonder what addon added that information to the tooltop
`20:09.54`	`Syzx`	`ckknight: how? :)`
`20:09.58`	`ckknight`	`email?`
`20:10.00`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: http://wow.reaktio.net/error.txt`
`20:10.02`	`Syzx`	`k`
`20:10.03`	`ckknight`	`ckknight at gmail`
`20:10.25`	`maia`	`Amadeo: so coloring pet bars by class is probably wrong?`
`20:10.25`	`Mikma`	`that's from buggrabber :)`
`20:10.49`	`Amadeo`	`maia: Perhaps, I have no idea :)`
`20:11.05`	`Amadeo`	`maia: But that's per frame I think`
`20:11.40`	`CIA-11`	`03maia * r6995 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: scaling option is back.`
`20:11.45`	`maia`	`vharr: there ya go.`
`20:12.19`	`Mikma`	`hehe i just noticed i still had error redirect enabled. that's the reason why buggrabber didn't work properly`
`20:14.37`	`haste`	`Jens: where? in the same spot as the time?`
`20:14.37`	`CIA-11`	`03jncl * r6996 10FuBar_DepositBoxFu/ (5 files): FuBar_DepositBoxFu: Initial Commit, no svn:externals`
`20:16.08`	`Jens`	`haste: delay:SetPoint("RIGHT", self.master.Bar, "RIGHT",-35,0)`
`20:16.28`	`haste`	`so it's to the right of the bar?`
`20:16.38`	`Jens`	`No, it's in the bar, left of the cast time.`
`20:18.03`	`haste`	`aah`
`20:18.06`	`haste`	`-35 :p`
`20:18.15`	`haste`	`why not acnhor to the left of the time text :p ?`
`20:18.16`	`CIA-11`	`03cladhaire * r6997 10Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua: AceDebug: Trying this again`
`20:18.25`	`Jens`	`I don't know... :)`
`20:18.39`	`Jens`	`Specifically... I don't know how to do that.`
`20:19.17`	`cladhaire`	`Mikma: that last commit works fine for me.`
`20:20.15`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: hmm interesting, i got 106 errors in bugsack at login :D`
`20:20.57`	`Mikma`	`hmm yeah, personal reminder. do not use wget to get stuff from svn`
`20:21.01`	`maia`	`I'm getting an error on PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD in AceDB.`
`20:21.04`	ag`	`maia, it was MG2 that modified the tooltip`
`20:21.17`	`maia`	AceDB-2.0\AceDB-2.0.lua:935: attempt to index field `profiles' (a nil value)
`20:21.21`	ag`	`many complained how it broke some addons so I left it out`
`20:21.32`	`maia`	ag`: oh. hmm, wonder how I can now tell how happy my pet is.
`20:21.49`	`maia`	ag`: used to feeding him a stack of bananas per hour when standing around testing.
`20:21.49`	`cladhaire`	`http://imagelink.org/info/4635`
`20:22.49`	`Mikma`	`maia in the center`
`20:22.56`	`phyber`	`maia: what happens if your pet gets unhappy? does he sulk and refuse to come out of his box?`
`20:23.04`	`phyber`	`(never played a hunter before)`
`20:23.05`	`haste`	`Jens: "LEFT, self.master.Time, "LEFT" should work fine for that :p`
`20:23.07`	`maia`	`Mikma: in the center?`
`20:23.25`	ag`	`maia, the color of the healthbar`
`20:23.32`	`maia`	`phyber: I just leveled my hunter to lvl12 to test squishy pet support. if pets get unhapy, they attack you.`
`20:23.36`	`Jens`	`Yea, it wasn't as hard when I looked at it for a minute.`
`20:23.43`	`maia`	`phyber: and lose royalty.`
`20:23.47`	`Jens`	`But why put the delay time in the middle of nowhere to begin with?`
`20:23.49`	`maia`	`phyber: aka you have to feed them even more.`
`20:23.51`	`Amadeo`	`cladhaire: What's that mean? :P`
`20:23.57`	`cladhaire`	`whats what mean?`
`20:24.01`	`phyber`	`oh`
`20:24.01`	`Mikma`	`maia: yes, in the center :D`
`20:24.04`	`haste`	`Jens: in the middle of nowhere? it was at the top right`
`20:24.05`	`maia`	ag`: the color when using "color bar by class"?
`20:24.09`	`haste`	`above the casting time`
`20:24.19`	`Amadeo`	`cladhaire: How active everyone is?`
`20:24.23`	ag`	`maia, don't set that option for pets :P`
`20:24.31`	`maia`	ag`: you provided it.
`20:24.34`	`Jens`	`Yea but... I just think it's more logical to have it in the bar.`
`20:24.36`	`phyber`	`ah, so having a pet is like enslave on a warlock, but you can feed them to extend the time.`
`20:24.37`	ag`	`I shouldn't heh`
`20:24.53`	`maia`	ag`: so I assume green = 125%, yellow = 100%, orange = 75%, red = 50% happiness?
`20:25.01`	`cladhaire`	`Amadeo: Its a graph of the #wowace social network`
`20:25.05`	`maia`	`phyber: probably.`
`20:25.37`	`maia`	`cladhaire: wow, I'm in the center! why?`
`20:26.20`	`Mikma`	`maia: told ya you are in the center ;)`
`20:26.29`	`cladhaire`	`maia: =)`
`20:26.30`	`Mikma`	`maia: and this is the reason :)`
`20:26.33`	`maia`	`cladhaire: I assume the next step s not to have a static gif but a java applet that will let you click people and expand their relation?`
`20:26.49`	`cladhaire`	`shake`
`20:26.52`	`cladhaire`	`its not mine tiehr`
`20:26.54`	`maia`	`cladhaire: also, there's no difference between a one way and a two way communication - yet.`
`20:26.57`	`cladhaire`	`i was just running the bot.`
`20:27.04`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`20:27.19`	`haste`	`PieSpy :D`
`20:27.42`	`haste`	`the bot is unstable as hell, but the irssi version of it is quite nice`
`20:27.45`	`oxman`	`good night all`
`20:27.52`	ag`	`maia, probably ^_^`
`20:27.56`	`oxman`	`(weechat.flashtux.org is better than irssi)`
`20:28.24`	`cladhaire`	`aye`
`20:28.59`	`Mikma`	`only 103 errors now :D`
`20:29.28`	`cladhaire`	`jesus what did you do`
`20:30.20`	`maia`	ag`: whats the option "extended statusbars"?
`20:31.21`	`phyber`	`oxman: lies. now, TASTE THE FLAMES OF SULFURON FOR YOUR BLASPHEMY!`
`20:33.10`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: i think my wget might have fucked em up really bad`
`20:33.19`	`cladhaire`	`well`
`20:33.20`	`cladhaire`	`no shit`
`20:33.29`	`cladhaire`	`wget doesn't p0ull any externals or keywords`
`20:33.31`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`20:33.43`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r6998 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB - added more checks`
`20:33.57`	`Mikma`	`yeah that's the why there is 103 errors :P i need to find them all now and update them and see if the errors go away`
`20:34.17`	ag`	`maia, it's for some themes where the bars might not expand below the health numbers`
`20:34.32`	ag`	`try it out with some of the old themes or oUF`
`20:35.15`	`Tekkub`	`erf`
`20:35.32`	ag`	`I should just make it work with all themes I guess`
`20:35.42`	`ckknight`	`hrm I should add AceOO object persistence into AceDB`
`20:36.13`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: btw it doesn't matter much but there's 4 Ace* folders in Clique which also are in Libs :)`
`20:36.24`	`cladhaire`	`that's not my fault.`
`20:36.28`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`20:36.33`	`cladhaire`	`thats yours :P`
`20:36.44`	`Mikma`	`heh, maybe yes`
`20:36.48`	`cladhaire`	`no not maybe`
`20:36.49`	`cladhaire`	`yes =)`
`20:36.53`	`ckknight`	`Tem, ping`
`20:37.12`	`Mikma`	`i'm having a terrible feeling that svnX haven't removed the old files there when updating`
`20:38.12`	`Tekkub`	`tort doesn't always remove files either, delete all beut the .svn folder and do your update`
`20:38.59`	`Mikma`	`seems like i have to clear up my addons soon, delete the old folders and redownload the new versions`
`20:41.45`	`maia`	ag`: one more question: planning to add MT frames to aUF? I don't really see any reason why not only their look+feel should be different than all other unit frames, but also why I need even one more mod watching UNIT_HEALTH etc.
`20:42.36`	ag`	`maia, yes. auf is totally ready for adding MT frames`
`20:42.56`	ag`	`I just need some API to tell me when the leader appoints a MT and who`
`20:44.19`	`phyber`	`imo, it shouldn't NEED that, but that should be an option if CTRA/oRA is there.`
`20:44.32`	`phyber`	`I used to like setting my own MTs with some old frames I had.`
`20:44.35`	`*** join/#wowace hyperChipmunk (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com)`
`20:44.36`	`phyber`	`but I forgot which they were.`
`20:44.42`	`phyber`	`I could choose who I wanted to watch.`
`20:45.04`	`Mikma`	`haste: so how's oRA2 doing?`
`20:45.20`	`Kebinusan`	`ping`
`20:45.24`	`ckknight`	`pong`
`20:45.25`	`Syzx`	`ckknight: did you get the mail?`
`20:45.28`	`ckknight`	`Syzx, yes`
`20:45.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`splat`
`20:45.36`	`ckknight`	`testing now`
`20:45.38`	`Syzx`	`splat? :(`
`20:46.10`	`ckknight`	`I wonder how hard it' be to make Pong in WoW...`
`20:46.13`	`haste`	`Mikma: I get that question each day.`
`20:46.22`	`maia`	`phyber: well, the only thing I'd like to see is target frames for each MT.`
`20:46.23`	`ckknight`	`s/it'/it'd/`
`20:46.25`	`cladhaire`	`not hard at all`
`20:46.33`	`Mikma`	`haste: so it's not then? :)`
`20:46.37`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, I'm talking with lag issues and all`
`20:46.38`	`CIA-11`	`03ag * r6999 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua:`
`20:46.38`	`CIA-11`	`ag_UnitFrames -`
`20:46.38`	`CIA-11`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:46.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the hard part is convincing the gnome to be the ball`
`20:46.53`	`haste`	`Mikma: I don't know when 1.12 comes, and my rogue is soon L60 :p`
`20:47.09`	`Mikma`	`haste: oh, didn't know you're waiting 1.12 :)`
`20:47.12`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, I'm talking networked.`
`20:47.22`	`cladhaire`	`latency would pwn yo`
`20:47.23`	`cladhaire`	`but could be fun`
`20:47.33`	`haste`	`Mikma: oRA2 won't be released on the 1.11 client ;)`
`20:47.45`	`Mikma`	`haste: put a readme in the folder saying that :D`
`20:47.45`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`20:47.52`	`haste`	`Mikma: no :p`
`20:48.30`	`Syzx`	`I hate svn externals :(`
`20:48.34`	`Syzx`	`so darn slow`
`20:49.47`	`phyber`	`OOI, are externals faster if they're served from svnserve (svn://) instead of through http ?`
`20:50.06`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`20:50.45`	`Syzx`	`shrug all you want, but it's slow! :P`
`20:50.52`	`cladhaire`	`the svn is not slow`
`20:50.57`	`Syzx`	`updating externals is`
`20:51.01`	`cladhaire`	`if you can go to the http://svn.wowace.com/root and tekk me its slow`
`20:51.03`	`cladhaire`	`then you win`
`20:51.03`	`cladhaire`	`otherwise`
`20:51.05`	`cladhaire`	`eff off =)`
`20:51.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`svn is pretty useless that way =x`
`20:51.56`	`phyber`	`no, the SVN is quite fast, but the client is really slow at grabbing externals. I just wondered if it got them faster if it was via svn://.`
`20:52.16`	`phyber`	`maybe there is some other voodoo it does. shrug`
`20:55.27`	`Syzx`	`cladhaire: accessing the site is fast, it's basically just apache servign some info right?`
`20:55.34`	`cladhaire`	`yep`
`20:55.51`	`cladhaire`	`but its the same protocol and info being used by svn clients`
`20:56.00`	`Syzx`	`but the externals or getting the repository... takes ages, honestly`
`20:56.30`	`cladhaire`	`i dont have as much of an issue with externals when using a commandline client`
`20:56.36`	`cladhaire`	`it only gets th einfo it needs to`
`20:56.44`	`Syzx`	`I'm using the commandline too :-/`
`20:56.54`	`Syzx`	`doesnt matter much speedwise`
`20:56.58`	`cladhaire`	`well, its like unning 7 checkout comands.`
`20:57.14`	`Thrae`	`What's the overhead of a declared at top level vs a function dynamically declared?`
`20:57.23`	`Thrae`	`s/a declared/a function declared/`
`20:57.33`	`cladhaire`	`define "overhead"`
`20:57.37`	`CIA-11`	`03thiana * r7000 10/branches/Sheppard/ (8 files in 2 dirs):`
`20:57.37`	`CIA-11`	`Sheppard:`
`20:57.37`	`CIA-11`	`* Ace2 version`
`20:57.37`	`CIA-11`	`* Adds: /shep ignorecc {none\|mine}, the setting is deliberately NOT saved between sessions. This is to facilitate re-ccing a mob before it's charging you ;)`
`20:57.41`	`Syzx`	`yeah, but 20 mods using Ace2 = 20x all the Ace2 classes I need to checkout. :)`
`20:57.47`	`cladhaire`	`functions are functions regardless of where they're declared`
`20:58.18`	`Thrae`	`Well, say I may need up to 40 functions declared, but may also only need 2 declared.`
`20:58.27`	`cladhaire`	`ok`
`20:59.21`	`Thrae`	`Would there be any real savings declaring them dynamically as needed?`
`20:59.43`	`cladhaire`	`only in the number you declare`
`20:59.43`	`CIA-11`	`03otravi * r7001 10oRA/oRA_Core.lua: oRA - It will no longer pop a error on Chinese clients. This is a quick workaround untill someone provides some locals.`
`21:00.05`	`cladhaire`	`a function takes memory, that's really all you have to worry about in this case.`
`21:00.13`	`Thrae`	`Right.\`
`21:00.51`	`Thrae`	`I'm thinking of changing a lookup table to 40 elseifs, and if I do that, I can declare the functions dynamically as well.`
`21:01.20`	`Makk`	`grats on r7000 :P`
`21:01.21`	`Thrae`	`The lookup table is only used in conjunction with AceEvent_EventRegistered and AceEvent_EventUnregistered in my lib.`
`21:01.24`	`cladhaire`	`well 40 elseifs are expensive`
`21:01.58`	`cladhaire`	`as far as processing goes`
`21:02.11`	`Thrae`	`Yeah, but the alternative would be a) A deeply nested table or b) Multiple tables`
`21:02.37`	`FryGuy`	`is that parserlib you're talking about?`
`21:02.37`	`cladhaire`	`its tough to visualize a problem without any real details =)`
`21:02.50`	`Makk`	`a friend of mine needs a selfcast addon - any tips?`
`21:02.53`	`Thrae`	`FryGuy: Yep`
`21:02.54`	`Makk`	`never used one myself`
`21:03.06`	`FryGuy`	`are you the one that made that?`
`21:03.21`	`Thrae`	`No, ParserLib was made by Rophy. I'm making an alternative.`
`21:03.48`	`Makk`	`he was using cosmos xD`
`21:04.02`	`FryGuy`	`ah`
`21:04.08`	`FryGuy`	`api compatable?`
`21:04.45`	`Thrae`	`cladhaire: Yeah, I've been kinda stuck on this. Using AceEvent, I have around 40 unique events for the combat log parser lib. I can combine the information from some of the events, but not all.`
`21:04.47`	`Makk`	`plxplx`
`21:04.55`	`Makk`	`i'm in need of help!`
`21:05.54`	`Thrae`	`Right now I'm using a static lookup table, one entry per unique lib event.`
`21:06.21`	`Thrae`	`The entries can be a string or a table of strings (WoW Events)`
`21:06.51`	`Thrae`	`As some combat events may come from multiple sources.`
`21:07.18`	`cladhaire`	`hrm`
`21:07.22`	`cladhaire`	`that complicates the issue`
`21:08.07`	`Thrae`	`Yeah, I made a dynamically created reverse-lookup table for information on which WoW events coorespond to multiple lib events.`
`21:11.32`	`Thrae`	`Hmmm, I have an idea. I might be able to change 40 elseifs into 10 initial elseifs, then 4 elseifs to narrow it down.`
`21:12.15`	`Thrae`	`Oh, and, of course, string.find(event, "CombLib", 1, true) at the top of AceEvent_EventRegistered, stupid me`
`21:12.59`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`Makk: wait for 1.12, self-cast will be in by default :P`
`21:13.18`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`Makk: I just use the built-in bongos self-cast`
`21:13.29`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`bleh, fuck thid keybosard, brb`
`21:13.56`	`*** join/#wowace Kameril (n=dssd@69-171-226-188.clspco.adelphia.net)`
`21:13.58`	`*** join/#wowace ToastTheif (i=ToastThe@24-177-162-9.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com)`
`21:14.04`	`ToastTheif`	`hey Tekkub you there?`
`21:14.15`	`Tekkub`	`yes`
`21:14.16`	`Thrae`	`Now that I think about it, AceEvent_EventRegistered and AceEvent_EventUnregistered might slow down all of AceEvent. Maybe I should use my own :RegisterEvent function.`
`21:14.40`	`ToastTheif`	`about the OneBag and BugSack bugs I reported`
`21:14.50`	`Tekkub`	`I'm linking them right now`
`21:14.54`	`Tekkub`	`BigWigs does it too`
`21:14.56`	`Thrae`	`But that would make things weird in other cases.`
`21:14.59`	`ToastTheif`	`you say it doesn't reset on logons, so I must be doing something wrong`
`21:15.15`	`ToastTheif`	`because it def resets for me`
`21:15.18`	`Tekkub`	`when did I say that`
`21:15.29`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.wowace.com/flyspray/?do=details&id=86`
`21:15.54`	`ToastTheif`	`ah never I see what you did`
`21:15.55`	`ToastTheif`	`thanks`
`21:16.01`	`ToastTheif`	`it's not a big bug, just annoying`
`21:16.30`	`Tekkub`	`I know`
`21:16.38`	`Tekkub`	`like I said, BigWigs does it too`
`21:17.24`	`ToastTheif`	`ok`
`21:18.10`	`ToastTheif`	`And CKK if you're here I think the DewDrop bug I listed has something to do with FuBar`
`21:21.23`	`*** join/#wowace Galka_____ (n=Galka@pool-72-88-153-251.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)`
`21:22.34`	`ckknight`	`back`
`21:22.40`	`CIA-11`	`03jncl * r7002 10FuBar_DepositBoxFu/ (4 files): FuBar_DepositBoxFu: added svn:externals, corrected bugs, Oops`
`21:22.48`	`ckknight`	`ToastTheif, which bug is that?`
`21:22.55`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, it doesn't.`
`21:23.00`	`Tekkub`	`ckk, I dropped some bugs in the fu section of FS for you to look at whenever you feel like it`
`21:23.07`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, okay.`
`21:23.13`	`Tekkub`	`one is TT's`
`21:23.19`	`Tekkub`	`well, three is TT's`
`21:23.27`	`Galka_____`	`Just updated 2 minutes ago`
`21:23.29`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, if nothing is registered to AceEvent_EventRegistered or AceEvent_EventUnregistered, it's free`
`21:23.30`	`CIA-11`	`03sole * r7003 10Soap/Soap.lua: Soap: *fixed 304 error`
`21:23.32`	`Galka_____`	`Getting the following errors:`
`21:23.34`	`Galka_____`	- [17:16-10]: oRA\oRA_Core.lua:345: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value)
`21:23.36`	`Galka_____`	oRA\oRA_Core.lua:345: in function `updateRoster'
`21:23.37`	`Galka_____`	oRA\oRA_Core.lua:172: in function `JoinChannel'
`21:23.39`	`Galka_____`	oRA\oRA_Core.lua:131: in function `func'
`21:23.40`	`Tekkub`	`Galka...`
`21:23.41`	`Galka_____`	`Metrognome\MetrognomeLib.lua:257: in function <...AddOns\FuBar-compat-1.2\Metrognome\MetrognomeLib.lua:251>`
`21:23.42`	`Galka_____`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:23.43`	`Galka_____`	`- [17:16-10]: PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:607: attempt to compare string with nil`
`21:23.45`	`Galka_____`	`PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:607: in function <Interface\AddOns\PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:600>`
`21:23.45`	`Tekkub`	`what a big sexy tail you got today`
`21:23.47`	`Galka_____`	<evaluated>: in function `sort'
`21:23.48`	`Galka_____`	PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:600: in function `Sort'
`21:23.49`	`Galka_____`	PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:412: in function `UpdateVisibility'
`21:23.50`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: Would adding a string.find(event, "CombLib", 1, true) to AceEvent_EventRegistered and AceEvent_EventUnregistered cause any processing problems?`
`21:23.50`	`haste`	`Galka_____: pastebin....`
`21:23.51`	`Galka_____`	`PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:297: in function <Interface\AddOns\PerfectRaid\PerfectRaid.lua:287>`
`21:23.53`	`Galka_____`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:23.56`	`Galka_____`	`Apologies for the spam`
`21:24.00`	`Galka_____`	`Thank you sir`
`21:24.05`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, use ^CombLib_`
`21:24.06`	`Thrae`	`s/to/upon a/`
`21:24.11`	`Tekkub`	`it's sooo long...`
`21:24.19`	`haste`	`Galka_____: the oRA 345 error is rather hard to solve, as I've never experienced it`
`21:24.19`	`Galka_____`	`Pastebin?`
`21:24.26`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: I thought giving 1 implemented ^`
`21:24.35`	`haste`	`Galka_____: so give me a screen of the current raid setup, and explain what happened around the time you got it`
`21:24.38`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, nope`
`21:24.58`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, actually, I dunno`
`21:24.58`	`Galka_____`	`Only thing that happened is a joined a raid.`
`21:25.00`	`ckknight`	`I think "^CombLib_" is clearer anyway`
`21:25.01`	`Galka_____`	`Ill provide a screenshot`
`21:25.14`	`Tekkub`	`what is the plural of Maou?`
`21:25.23`	`Tekkub`	`Maous? Maoii?`
`21:25.23`	`Thrae`	`string.find(stringtoparse, pattern, startindex, isplainsearch)`
`21:25.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Maui`
`21:25.31`	`hyperChipmunk`	`=D`
`21:25.36`	`ckknight`	`Maou.`
`21:25.51`	`haste`	`Galka_____: so it happened when you joined?`
`21:25.53`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, nah, use ^`
`21:25.53`	`*** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@p54846EFC.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`21:25.57`	`Thrae`	`Tekkub: Maou, as in the Japanese word for Demon King?`
`21:26.08`	`Tekkub`	`yea`
`21:26.10`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, cause it doesn't require the start to be there, just where the pattern _may_ start`
`21:26.20`	`ckknight`	`I was thinking the Chinese word for "cat"`
`21:26.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`~dict Maou`
`21:26.39`	`ckknight`	`though that'd be Mao`
`21:26.49`	`Thrae`	`Tekkub: Japanese words do not follow English plurals ;)`
`21:26.56`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, Japanese people don't have plurals`
`21:26.59`	`ckknight`	`one desk, two desk`
`21:27.03`	`Tekkub`	`<--- got two more episodes of Kyou Kara Maou`
`21:27.11`	`Thrae`	`Yeah I'm up to Episode 71 now`
`21:27.18`	`haste`	`Galka_____: oh, I want the social raid screen btw`
`21:27.24`	`Tekkub`	`so I was saying "oh we got two more Maous"`
`21:27.31`	`Tekkub`	`and then we got confused`
`21:27.42`	`Tekkub`	`stupid singular plurals`
`21:27.57`	`Thrae`	`Tekkub: Most literal translations of Japanese plurals would be "We got two more of th e Maou"`
`21:28.06`	`Tekkub`	`3.`
`21:28.10`	`Tekkub`	`gack`
`21:28.17`	`Tekkub`	`mash that keypad!`
`21:28.18`	`ckknight`	`the plural of goose is sheep`
`21:29.05`	`*** join/#wowace Andalia (n=xx@p54ADABCD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`21:29.30`	`cladhaire`	`http://ace.pastey.net/128`
`21:29.34`	`cladhaire`	`for those who are interested`
`21:29.35`	`Thrae`	`Tekkub: Pronouns have plurals in Japanese, nouns don't`
`21:29.52`	`Tekkub`	`whatever, I stand by my Maoui`
`21:30.51`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, what is it?`
`21:30.52`	`Thrae`	`Actually, "Maou" might be a made up word`
`21:31.14`	`Tekkub`	`well, he is the King in the show`
`21:31.19`	`Tekkub`	`they call him the Maou`
`21:32.08`	`Tekkub`	`kinda like Nakama in One Piece.... still afraid to find out what that got translated into on Cartoon Network`
`21:32.11`	`*** part/#wowace Armooo (n=Armooo@c-71-192-231-211.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)`
`21:33.27`	`Thrae`	`Tekkub: "Ouja" is the word for "King", they combined "Mazoku" and "Ouja" to get "Maou".`
`21:33.56`	`Thrae`	`Tekkub: Mazoku is another combined word, "Ma" for "Evil" and "Zoku" for "Race/Clan"`
`21:34.08`	`Syzx`	`cladhaire: svn checkout FuBar: 0m56.513s`
`21:34.12`	`Syzx`	`beat that :P`
`21:34.27`	`Thrae`	`Mazoku is a common slang/dialect term for "monster" or "demon"`
`21:35.47`	`cladhaire`	`Given what the svn is doing during that checkout, its 100% reasonable.`
`21:36.09`	`Syzx`	`svn up 21secs`
`21:36.31`	`Syzx`	`that's only 1 mod :(`
`21:36.43`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r7004 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - fixed textures`
`21:36.44`	`cladhaire`	`yes.. but do you have any idea what the SVN is doing during that time?`
`21:36.51`	`ckknight`	`Syzx, there you go`
`21:36.55`	`Syzx`	`\o/`
`21:36.56`	`cladhaire`	`besides download most of the history and running a full diff on your local copies.`
`21:37.27`	`Syzx`	`still, it's a pain in the arse. just admit it :P`
`21:37.52`	`Syzx`	`and with Ace2 it's not getting faster unfortuntely`
`21:38.44`	`Kebinusan`	`eh its still faster than going to a mod site and updating my mods`
`21:38.55`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: neat :)`
`21:38.57`	`ckknight`	`for one, it's automatic`
`21:39.34`	`Syzx`	`ckknight: svn updating?`
`21:39.53`	`ckknight`	`you just type svn up, then you wait`
`21:40.12`	`ckknight`	`you don't manually have to click download, wait for zip, open it up, extract, etc.`
`21:40.20`	`Syzx`	`true`
`21:40.31`	`Makk`	...terface\AddOns\FuBar_PerformanceFu\PerformanceFu.lua:5: attempt to index global `AbacusLib' (a nil value)
`21:40.33`	`Thiana`	`'svn up --ignore-externals' is your friend ;)`
`21:40.35`	`Syzx`	`I guess I'm just impatient :)`
`21:40.38`	`Makk`	Interface\AddOns\FuBar_VolumeFu\VolumeFu.lua:4: attempt to index global `CrayonLib' (a nil value)
`21:40.44`	`Mikma`	`is there a way to look how externals have been put to other addons?`
`21:40.47`	`Syzx`	`Thiana: that only breaks addons i'm afraid :P`
`21:40.53`	`*** join/#wowace Smirky (n=smirk@Kirova-Unlimited-vpn.TeNeT.Odessa.UA)`
`21:40.54`	`Makk`	`what's going on, and what to do?`
`21:41.15`	`Makk`	`Getting those errors on most of my fubaraddons`
`21:41.21`	`ckknight`	`Makk, lemme guess`
`21:41.26`	`ckknight`	`you updated FuBar`
`21:41.27`	`Kyahx`	`FuBar-Comapt-1.2!`
`21:41.31`	`ckknight`	`and you didn't get FuBar-Compat-1.2`
`21:41.31`	`Makk`	`cirrect.`
`21:41.31`	`Thiana`	`Not really Syzx. You just have to make sure the externals it uses are included as addons. ie, Ace2, Tablet, etc`
`21:41.31`	`Smirky`	`lol`
`21:41.36`	`Makk`	`oh shi-`
`21:41.46`	`Smirky`	`I didn't see it at first too`
`21:42.12`	`Smirky`	`was like :"Omg!! None of plugs work!!"`
`21:42.21`	`CIA-11`	`03theondry * r7005 10FuBar_SnaFu/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Initial upload`
`21:42.39`	`Makk`	`do i get the contents of that to /Fubar/ or /Fubar-compat-1.2 ?`
`21:42.41`	`ToastTheif`	`hey does anyone know where I could possibly find an archive of an old link to a thread on the general forums?`
`21:42.50`	`ToastTheif`	`I have the link still`
`21:42.55`	`ToastTheif`	`but the thread is dead`
`21:42.58`	`Smirky`	`Ammo, you here?`
`21:43.01`	`Thrae`	`ToastTheif: If it's a blue post, then blue.cardplace.com`
`21:43.12`	`Makk`	`Smirky: do i get it to /Fubar/?`
`21:43.12`	`ToastTheif`	`it was a blue post, and I searched there and got nothing =/`
`21:43.30`	`Smirky`	`nope, just like a simple addon`
`21:44.27`	`Smirky`	`BigWigs recent revision mentions Candybar usage thing, are we supposed to get Candybar addon?`
`21:44.40`	`Smirky`	`or it's already there?`
`21:44.57`	`Smirky`	`kinda wondered about that`
`21:45.34`	`Smirky`	`O_o`
`21:47.05`	`ckknight`	`Smirky, Candybar's an embed`
`21:47.28`	`eternally777`	`Random question: is it possible to have different levels of debugging using AceDebug-2.0, so that different levels show different amounts of detail?`
`21:47.36`	`Kyahx`	`yep`
`21:47.44`	`Kyahx`	`See: Clique`
`21:48.06`	`Smirky`	`Ckk, and that means...?`
`21:48.10`	`cladhaire`	`eternally777: AddonSetDebugLevel([1,2,3])`
`21:48.20`	`Smirky`	`no need to check it out, ye?`
`21:48.25`	`cladhaire`	`eternally777: Then Addon:LevelDebug(1, "Message")`
`21:48.31`	`ckknight`	`Smirky, it's embedded and thus not an addon`
`21:48.39`	`Smirky`	`ouh`
`21:48.42`	`Smirky`	`I c`
`21:48.47`	`Smirky`	`thx :)`
`21:48.56`	`Kyahx`	`"I see, thanks :)" >:(`
`21:49.01`	`cladhaire`	`eternally777: Check the AceDebug source for moe details.. I need to get that documented and tossed up on the web`
`21:49.07`	`ToastTheif`	`omg found it`
`21:49.10`	`ToastTheif`	`thanks Thrae`
`21:49.14`	`eternally777`	`mmk ty, that helps :D`
`21:49.22`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, Ace2 should be fully documented`
`21:49.30`	`ckknight`	`if you ever change anything`
`21:49.35`	`ckknight`	`it's too important :-P`
`21:49.40`	`cladhaire`	`i added.`
`21:49.43`	`cladhaire`	`i didn't change`
`21:49.43`	`eternally777`	`And here I was scared I forgot to read something`
`21:50.15`	`Mikma`	ag`: there's something going on with the combattext
`21:50.48`	`Mikma`	ag`: if the mob dies and gets hit with damage before the damage will stick in the frame and don't go away
`21:50.52`	ag`	`I know`
`21:51.02`	ag`	`I just need to hide the combattext`
`21:52.07`	ag`	`Mikma, can you read my responses in PM?`
`21:52.15`	`Mikma`	ag`: negative
`21:52.22`	ag`	`annoying`
`21:52.28`	`Mikma`	ag`: login :P
`21:52.46`	ag`	`I can't remember how... I have autologin on my mac but I didn't care to set it up here too :P`
`21:53.14`	`Mikma`	`hmm me neither`
`21:53.23`	`Mikma`	`oh`
`21:53.33`	`Mikma`	`./msg nickserv identify password`
`21:54.58`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: fixed.`
`21:55.07`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, good stuff :-)`
`21:56.12`	`cladhaire`	`i'm hungry`
`21:56.35`	`CIA-11`	`03delsphynx * r7006 10ag_UnitFrames/ (17 files in 2 dirs): ag_Unitframes: Added bar textures, definitely up for critique or suggestions :)`
`21:56.40`	`ckknight`	`me too`
`21:56.49`	`eternally777`	`lets order pizza`
`21:57.53`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, mind filing a bug?`
`21:57.54`	`cladhaire`	`ok`
`21:57.56`	`cladhaire`	`i like pepperoni`
`21:57.58`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: With an AceLibrary-style lib, how do I make a private (local) function?`
`21:58.12`	`ckknight`	`for the toggle to change text`
`21:58.15`	`cladhaire`	`if we want veggies (not my favorite) it needs to be chicago style`
`21:58.20`	`Mikma`	`17 files in 2 dirs, that's a big commit :)`
`21:58.21`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, local function func() ... end`
`21:58.50`	`Thrae`	`Yeah, I know how to make a local function, but I need a singular instance of the function.`
`21:59.39`	`Tekkub`	`oro?`
`22:00.47`	`Thrae`	`The only way I can think of is to use metadata, ugh.`
`22:00.56`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, I have absolutely no idea what you want.`
`22:01.06`	`ckknight`	`sorry`
`22:02.04`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: In many OOP schemes, you can have private, public, and protected methods. Private is only accessible to the class it is defined in, public is accessible to anything, protected is accessible by any children.`
`22:02.15`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`22:02.27`	`ckknight`	`there aren't really protected stuff in lua`
`22:02.32`	`ckknight`	`it's kinda impossible`
`22:02.50`	`ckknight`	`for "private" methods, you'd use local functions`
`22:02.58`	`Thrae`	`The function would need to be placed inside the Lua table (the "AceLibrary object") for AceLibrary to update it.`
`22:03.16`	`Kyahx\|afk`	`holy crap thats alot of textures...`
`22:03.29`	`ckknight`	`right, but it wouln't be upgraded anyway since it'd be local and you'd be referencing the loca`
`22:03.30`	`ckknight`	`l`
`22:03.49`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, my best advice is to not worry about it and use local functions`
`22:04.07`	`Thrae`	`What if I need to fix a bug in the local function's code?`
`22:04.30`	`ckknight`	`what about it? you release a new version`
`22:05.00`	`Thrae`	`Ahhh right, silly me. Each local function exists in the same instance as the rest of the functions.`
`22:05.43`	`Tekkub`	`ckk, a bug for whatnow?`
`22:06.04`	`Thrae`	`Sorry, all that programming in C sometimes makes me think Lua is harder then it is ;)`
`22:06.12`	`Tekkub`	`ah`
`22:06.17`	`Tekkub`	`heh`
`22:06.19`	`Tekkub`	`yea`
`22:16.03`	ag`	`holy shit, someone added a fuckload of textures :P`
`22:16.48`	`Kyahx`	`yea, lots of ugly ones too`
`22:16.49`	`Kyahx`	`:P`
`22:18.37`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: How do you tell which custom AceEvent has been fired inside a handler function?`
`22:19.20`	ag`	`I might clean up in them sometime :P`
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`22:23.56`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ`
`22:23.57`	`Mikk`	`Thrae: JoshBorke's HealthMon is one of those combat log monitoring apps I was thinking about the other day`
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`22:25.09`	`Thrae`	`Mikk: We'll see how it ends up, I've rewritten the lib a few times now. Trying to get the best optimization.`
`22:26.10`	ag`	`gloss is a nice texture`
`22:26.34`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, _G.event`
`22:26.53`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, remember how when you click Active you want it to switch to Disabled and back again?`
`22:26.56`	`Mikk`	`Aye, I'm just trying to think in new ways ;)`
`22:26.58`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: You put _custom_ AceEvent events in _G.event?`
`22:27.05`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, yes.`
`22:27.11`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`22:27.12`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea, the toggle name map`
`22:27.14`	`Thrae`	`Isn't that a little dangerous?`
`22:27.19`	`ckknight`	`not at all`
`22:27.33`	`ckknight`	`through some form of magic I figured it out`
`22:28.14`	`Thrae`	`Ah, does that mean if I open the AceEvent.lua file, all the magic will fly out? :D`
`22:28.33`	`Thrae`	`Like my cordless antistatic wriststrap I got from Korea!`
`22:28.37`	`ckknight`	`Thrae, no, if you observe it you can't see it`
`22:28.48`	`ckknight`	`if you observe the magic, you'll change it`
`22:29.16`	`Tekkub`	`ckk, FS'd`
`22:29.23`	`Tekkub`	`FS#87`
`22:30.06`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`22:30.18`	`ckknight`	`I do want to add it, later`
`22:35.15`	`Amadeo`	ag`: lots of textures in the menus, but none of them work :P
`22:36.35`	ag`	`Amadeo, restart wow`
`22:38.28`	`Amadeo`	`can't just reloadui? :(`
`22:38.31`	`Tekkub`	`I have officially come up with the first spyware for wow`
`22:38.42`	`Tekkub`	`and I think it's something most people will want`
`22:38.43`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1818.msg33873.html#msg33873`
`22:38.46`	`Tekkub`	`:)`
`22:39.12`	`Amadeo`	`I'm afraid to look`
`22:39.21`	`Tekkub`	`no, it's good`
`22:39.26`	`Tekkub`	`it's a needed feature`
`22:39.43`	`Tekkub`	`simple and could be sliiped into... oh... CTRA without anyone bitching`
`22:40.20`	`Amadeo`	`hm, nice`
`22:40.29`	`Tekkub`	`Hint: [CTRAchannel] [Joecombatlooter] LOOT_WINDOW_OPENED`
`22:40.30`	`Amadeo`	`I was ready for it to be bacon-oriented`
`22:40.39`	`Tekkub`	`that's all`
`22:40.57`	`Tekkub`	`client mods could ping the names when it happens in combat`
`22:41.05`	`Kebinusan`	`heh`
`22:41.26`	`Tekkub`	`where's Cide, I need him`
`22:42.19`	`Tekkub`	`shoulda got his IM info when he was in here...`
`22:42.41`	`Kebinusan`	`doesnt he hang in wowi-lounge`
`22:42.48`	`Mikma`	`"ouh and is there a possibility like in Discord to make 1 bar have 24 buttons for example?"`
`22:42.50`	`Mikk`	`aye but he's not there right now`
`22:42.50`	`Tekkub`	`CAIR!`
`22:42.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`~seen cide`
`22:43.05`	`purl`	`cide <i=Cide@81-226-233-5-no60.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 22h 46m 10s ago, saying: 'failure!'.`
`22:43.05`	ag`	`so I am exalted in AB in 1-2 bgs`
`22:43.13`	`Mikk`	`haha`
`22:43.14`	ag`	`but I just found out that I don't really need anything`
`22:43.40`	`*** join/#wowace ckknight_ (i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com)`
`22:44.13`	`Mikk`	`actually, detecting combat looters without relying on them having something installed might work with just a few people scanning raid member targets for dead mobs`
`22:44.19`	`Mikk`	`i think`
`22:44.21`	`Amadeo`	ag`: You got exalted in 2 BGs? huh? :P
`22:44.35`	`Tekkub`	`it doesn't Mikk`
`22:44.36`	`Tekkub`	`LAG`
`22:44.38`	ag`	`I will be exalted in 1-2`
`22:44.39`	`Tekkub`	`I tried`
`22:44.43`	`Mikk`	`ow`
`22:44.51`	`Amadeo`	`ohhh`
`22:44.52`	`Amadeo`	`ok`
`22:44.55`	`Tekkub`	`my whole guild helped, we had "Combat looting ZG night"`
`22:45.19`	`Tekkub`	`I wasn't able to guess a single damn person that looted`
`22:45.26`	`Mikk`	`arf`
`22:46.16`	`Mikk`	`that's somewhat weird though`
`22:46.33`	`Tekkub`	`it'd be simple to implement...`
`22:46.36`	`Mikk`	`anyway... RL calls.. back later`
`22:46.47`	`Tekkub`	`on LOOT_OPENED do SendCTRAMessage("LOOT_OPENED") end`
`22:47.54`	`Kebinusan`	`integrate with getdkp LootWhore gets FIFTY DKP MINUS for looting in combat`
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`22:53.22`	`mjc`	`Tekkub: nice`
`22:53.35`	`Tekkub`	`you like? I hope Cide likes`
`22:53.36`	`*** join/#wowace Cartas (n=Cartas@host86-133-168-90.range86-133.btcentralplus.com)`
`22:54.34`	`ckknight_`	`what I want is for Cide to end up using AceComm`
`22:54.42`	`ckknight`	`that'd be cool`
`22:54.52`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ`
`22:55.25`	`FISKER_Q`	`Cide? That's the CT_Ra dev?`
`22:55.36`	`Shyva`	`yea`
`22:57.05`	`Tuplad`	`ckknight: why ? we have oRA`
`22:57.30`	`ckknight`	`you do realize that oRA and CTRA can cross-communicate...`
`22:57.53`	`Tuplad`	`yep`
`22:58.00`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r7007 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - now remembers the disabled flag`
`22:58.55`	ag`	`ckknight, are you in contact with him?`
`22:59.19`	`ckknight`	`well, I showed him how easy it was to use, and he said "neat"`
`22:59.25`	`Tuplad`	`:O`
`23:01.36`	`CIA-11`	`03shyva * r7008 10BigWigs/Core.lua:`
`23:01.36`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs:`
`23:01.36`	`CIA-11`	`Trying to fix the enable module sync when different localizations are mixed up with eachother.`
`23:01.44`	`Tuplad`	`dont think you'll ever see CTRA using Ace*`
`23:02.09`	`ckknight`	`why's that, Tuplad?`
`23:02.13`	`CIA-11`	`03theondry * r7009 10FuBar_SnaFu/ (Changes.txt FuBar_SnaFu.toc SnaFu.lua): 0.07 refer to changes.txt)`
`23:02.16`	`Cartas`	`Even if you did, would there be [m]any reasons for using it over oRA?`
`23:02.35`	`ckknight`	`brand name status?`
`23:03.00`	`Tuplad`	`ckknight: cant tell you, really ;\ but I just think so - and indeed, like Cartas said`
`23:03.13`	`Mikma`	`CTRA2! Now more Ace2 than EVER! oh wait, it's oRA :P`
`23:03.22`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:03.25`	`CIA-11`	`03rabbit * r7010 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: BigWigs: Gluth: Bar for decimates after the first one will now actually start.`
`23:03.51`	`Tuplad`	`:>`
`23:03.53`	`Cartas`	`What's this spam from CIA-11?`
`23:04.14`	`Tuplad`	`svn updates?`
`23:04.19`	`ckknight`	`yea, SVN updates`
`23:04.29`	`Cartas`	`Ah, okay. Sorry, I've only just joined the channel!`
`23:04.32`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`23:04.34`	`Tuplad`	`:)`
`23:04.35`	`ckknight`	`welcome, Cartas`
`23:04.39`	`Cartas`	`Because I was hunting down Tekkub!`
`23:04.39`	`ckknight`	`how's things?`
`23:04.41`	`Cartas`	`Thanks old chap! :)`
`23:04.48`	`Tuplad`	`ckknight is old :P`
`23:04.48`	`ckknight`	`why Tekkub?`
`23:04.50`	`mjc`	`you noob`
`23:04.50`	`ckknight`	`why not me?`
`23:04.52`	`Cartas`	`They're okay, thanks, I guess. Wiping on Gothik over and over...`
`23:04.57`	`Cartas`	`Yourself, CKknight?`
`23:05.06`	`Cartas`	`Well, Tekkub has bacon.`
`23:05.07`	`Tekkub`	`MartCart?`
`23:05.08`	`ckknight`	`why do you need Tek anyway?`
`23:05.08`	`FISKER_Q`	`the person to hunt you down would be me`
`23:05.13`	`FISKER_Q`	`cocks gun`
`23:05.17`	`Tuplad`	`lolz`
`23:05.19`	`ckknight`	`most dangerous game.`
`23:05.21`	`ckknight`	`~roulette`
`23:05.23`	`purl`	`ACTION watches ckknight pull the trigger: Click!`
`23:05.26`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:05.26`	`Tekkub`	`cocks? where?`
`23:05.35`	`FISKER_Q`	`aww`
`23:05.36`	`ckknight`	`Di-di mao!`
`23:05.37`	`FISKER_Q`	`mean bot`
`23:05.39`	`FISKER_Q`	`~roulette`
`23:05.41`	`purl`	`ACTION watches fisker_q pull the trigger: Click!`
`23:05.43`	`FISKER_Q`	`phew`
`23:05.49`	`Mikma`	`see me die!`
`23:05.50`	`Mikma`	`~roulette`
`23:05.52`	`purl`	`ACTION watches mikma pull the trigger: Click!`
`23:05.56`	`Mikma`	`purl: wtf`
`23:05.58`	`Tuplad`	`-_-`
`23:05.59`	`FISKER_Q`	`WHY WONT WE DIE`
`23:05.59`	`ckknight`	`Cartas, Di-di mao!`
`23:06.00`	`Tuplad`	`~roulette`
`23:06.01`	`purl`	`ACTION watches tuplad pull the trigger: Click!`
`23:06.07`	`Cartas`	`Di-di mao?`
`23:06.08`	`Tuplad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:06.09`	`Mikma`	`purl: wtf ftw`
`23:06.14`	`ckknight`	`means hurry up in Vietnamese`
`23:06.18`	`FISKER_Q`	`can't back out now`
`23:06.25`	`Cartas`	`Hurry up with?`
`23:06.27`	`*** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@j-74.vc-graz.ac.at)`
`23:06.30`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:06.35`	`Cartas`	`~roulette`
`23:06.38`	`purl`	`ACTION watches cartas pull the trigger: BANG!`
`23:06.41`	`ckknight`	`haha!`
`23:06.42`	`kergoth`	`hahah`
`23:06.43`	`FISKER_Q`	`HAHAHAH`
`23:06.43`	`ckknight`	`fail.`
`23:06.44`	`Mikma`	`hah`
`23:06.54`	`Tuplad`	`anyone else noticed that Discord users like to bitch alot about how good Discord is and how much time loozeroth(or w/e his name is) spends on developing it ?`
`23:06.55`	`Worf`	`omg... irc games :)`
`23:06.59`	`Tekkub`	`ckk, I don't get a Fu error when I toggle BigWigs' standby with FuBar not loaded...`
`23:07.00`	`Mikma`	`owned by ckknight / purl`
`23:07.12`	`Cartas`	`I'll get you back for that, Ckknight!`
`23:07.13`	`ckknight`	`well, now that we're done popping Cartas' #wowace cherry...`
`23:07.24`	`Tekkub`	`no ckk`
`23:07.29`	`Tekkub`	`we forgot something`
`23:07.29`	`Tuplad`	`:D`
`23:07.32`	`Tuplad`	`like wat?`
`23:07.34`	`Tuplad`	`what*`
`23:07.35`	`Cartas`	`Is that what you always do to newbies in here?`
`23:07.35`	`Mikma`	`~inflatable dildos`
`23:07.37`	`purl`	`Oh yea baby, stretch that hole!`
`23:07.41`	`Tekkub`	`that too`
`23:07.46`	`ckknight`	`Cartas, yes.`
`23:07.49`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:07.51`	`kergoth`	`~emulate stewie`
`23:07.53`	`purl`	`Do you want a soooda?`
`23:07.54`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: they didnt do that to me ;P`
`23:08.02`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: that's a lie`
`23:08.03`	`Cartas`	`They love me more, Tuplad!`
`23:08.03`	`ckknight`	`that's cause you're a troll, Tuplad`
`23:08.03`	`Tekkub`	`no we just banned Tup`
`23:08.04`	`Mikma`	`we did this:`
`23:08.07`	`Mikma`	`purl: burn Tuplad`
`23:08.08`	`purl`	`ibot pours gasoline all over Tuplad, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze`
`23:08.17`	`Tuplad`	`;_;`
`23:08.19`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:08.23`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`23:08.25`	`Tuplad`	`true story`
`23:08.26`	`Cartas`	`Much better than shooting yourself. :(`
`23:08.29`	`Tuplad`	`like, 1 month ban ?`
`23:08.38`	`steino`	`Cartas!`
`23:08.41`	`Cartas`	`Latterlig!`
`23:08.43`	`Cartas`	`<3`
`23:08.43`	`steino`	`Hi!`
`23:08.45`	`Tekkub`	`whatever it was it wasn't long enough!`
`23:08.47`	`Tekkub`	`(burn)`
`23:08.48`	`Cartas`	`I finally tracked him down!`
`23:09.02`	`Cartas`	`Sorry, raid! BRB old chaps!`
`23:09.13`	`Tekkub`	`Have good iping!`
`23:09.33`	`Tekkub`	`s/ip/wip/`
`23:09.33`	`Tuplad`	`steino: wth ?`
`23:09.40`	`Tuplad`	`steino: from bloodfeather-eu ?`
`23:09.45`	`steino`	`no :o`
`23:09.47`	`Tuplad`	`oh good`
`23:09.55`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:10.01`	`Tuplad`	`coz that was the name of the dude that robbed me :\`
`23:10.08`	`steino`	`lol`
`23:10.11`	`Cartas`	`It's really him!`
`23:10.15`	`Tuplad`	`:D`
`23:10.39`	`Tuplad`	`time to troll some`
`23:10.43`	`steino`	`Cartas: ssssh`
`23:10.47`	`Tekkub`	`ckk, I have a problem`
`23:10.51`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:10.54`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, we're here to help you`
`23:10.56`	`ckknight`	`open up.`
`23:11.05`	`mjc`	`robbed?`
`23:11.06`	`ckknight`	`we've all gone through harships`
`23:11.10`	`ckknight`	`hardships*`
`23:11.13`	`Tekkub`	`I finally gave up FuBar and now I find my minimap has a bad case of herpes`
`23:11.16`	`Tuplad`	`mjc: well yea, account got "hacked", I reported - I got banned, GG!`
`23:11.24`	`Mikma`	`Arlokk is owning us`
`23:11.24`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, hehe`
`23:11.29`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: you gave up fubar ? oO`
`23:11.30`	`ckknight`	`why'd you give up FuBar`
`23:11.34`	`mjc`	`hacked?`
`23:11.35`	`Mikma`	`she keeps whirlwinding and keeps killing everyone`
`23:11.35`	`Tuplad`	`indeed`
`23:11.42`	`Tuplad`	`mjc: yea`
`23:11.43`	`Tekkub`	`on my alt testing for a bug that I can' reproduce`
`23:11.44`	`mjc`	`learn to pick good passwords`
`23:11.51`	`snurre`	`your account didn't got hacked.. nobody has yet broken into the login database`
`23:11.58`	`Tekkub`	`speaking of, FS needs a "Works for me" option when you close`
`23:12.02`	`Tuplad`	`mjc: not my account, neither was it my password - I was being paid to go BGs`
`23:12.04`	`snurre`	`someone stole your passwd somehow, sure`
`23:12.09`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: are you really saying you reported about your accound being hacked?`
`23:12.15`	`mjc`	`then who cares`
`23:12.20`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: yep`
`23:12.23`	`Tuplad`	`mjc: my brother :P`
`23:12.29`	`mjc`	`whoopeedoo`
`23:12.29`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: are you a fucking idiot? really?`
`23:12.36`	`snurre`	`account sharers deserve to get banned.`
`23:12.39`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: why ? :o`
`23:12.50`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: that about same as making a ticket ans saying all blizzard employees are bunch of ball-licking whores`
`23:12.51`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: my brother ... me ... account sharing ? come on`
`23:12.52`	`Cartas`	`Sigh Dead again.`
`23:12.53`	`vhaarr`	`[Ammo]: I'm not sure Shyva's latest Core change is good, have you seen it?`
`23:13.05`	`Tekkub`	`depends on the saring.... my ex- soon to be re-roommate is sharing my hubby's acct so he can play with me`
`23:13.10`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: they _A_L_W_A_Y_S_ ban the people if he makes a ticket about his account being hacked`
`23:13.14`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: hmmm - been watching lots of porn lately ?`
`23:13.24`	`ckknight`	`I've borrowed mjc's account when mine ran out ;-) but that was only for addon testing, not for playing`
`23:13.30`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: can you fix shyva's latest BW2 Core checkin? seems it broke badly.`
`23:13.34`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: no i just think you are the most stupid wowplayer i have seen for a while O_O`
`23:13.41`	`snurre`	`Tuplad: you have ANY idea how much problems "my little brother" is creating for players? :p`
`23:13.44`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: Im a troll, no wow player`
`23:13.50`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: he's actually 4 years older :]`
`23:13.51`	`mjc`	`ckknight: :)`
`23:13.56`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: looks like the zhCN and/or koKR strings need to be escaped`
`23:14.00`	`snurre`	`it's a figure of speech..`
`23:14.02`	`Tekkub`	`broke what, the koKRean's strings? fuck them they should encode them into escape chars`
`23:14.05`	`Tuplad`	`k`
`23:14.13`	`Tekkub`	`hehe`
`23:14.16`	`snurre`	`people always blame their "little brother" when theyre sharing their account etc`
`23:14.16`	`Tekkub`	`JINX!`
`23:14.30`	`vhaarr`	`Tekkub: yeah, should I just remove the translation again so the SVN is in a usable state?`
`23:14.39`	`vhaarr`	`for non-koreans, that is`
`23:14.46`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: well :D`
`23:14.48`	`Tekkub`	`yea they shouldn't blame their "little brother" they should instead contact their "my friend knows a GM"`
`23:14.53`	`snurre`	`however, the ToU/EULA clearly states you cannot share account with anyone, regardless of family ties..`
`23:14.56`	`CIA-11`	`03icetrain * r7011 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua:`
`23:14.56`	`CIA-11`	`CandyBar:`
`23:14.57`	`CIA-11`	`Remove argcheck 3 in SetFontSize(), only two args are expected`
`23:14.57`	`CIA-11`	`Changed Update() to acquire the color table via Compost, saves ~5k/s per active bar when using gradients`
`23:15.07`	`Mikma`	`Tekkub: lol :)`
`23:15.08`	`Tekkub`	`one sex var`
`23:15.29`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: well, f that, a GM told me it's aight as long as it's not my whole family that plays it`
`23:15.31`	`Cartas`	`So, the moment an addon on the SVN is updated, CIA-11 reports it?`
`23:15.37`	`vhaarr`	`yes`
`23:15.38`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: ye`
`23:15.48`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`23:15.50`	`vhaarr`	`in a perfect world`
`23:15.53`	`Cartas`	`How strange.`
`23:15.55`	`snurre`	`lol, GM who didn't know the policies then.. :p`
`23:15.58`	`ckknight`	`why strange?`
`23:16.00`	`Tekkub`	`GMs don't dictate policy`
`23:16.03`	`Tuplad`	`indeed`
`23:16.04`	`ckknight`	`hacks are _never_ good.`
`23:16.07`	`vhaarr`	`Cartas: it's not strange, it's intended.`
`23:16.12`	`Tuplad`	`hacks ? :O`
`23:16.16`	`Cartas`	`Don't the adodns have logs on the SVN?`
`23:16.17`	`Tekkub`	`so don't rely on what they say, read the EULA it's the defining policy`
`23:16.18`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: you have gotten a drunken gm if he has said that`
`23:16.23`	`Mikma`	`accounts are personal`
`23:16.28`	`snurre`	`what a GM says is not the law, when it's written in the legal documents`
`23:16.38`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: I talked with a GM about football, women and cars once :)`
`23:16.38`	`ckknight`	`Cartas, yes`
`23:16.39`	`vhaarr`	`Cartas: the other way around, the SVN has logs for the addons.`
`23:16.52`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub & snurre: ok`
`23:16.56`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: and i talked about coffee and sugar`
`23:16.58`	`snurre`	`Tuplad: can you remember the name of the GM? ;)`
`23:17.00`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: ewww`
`23:17.04`	`Mikma`	`still, accounts are personal`
`23:17.05`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: farvandale, I think`
`23:17.09`	`snurre`	`lawl`
`23:17.15`	`snurre`	`ill poke him`
`23:17.19`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: k :)`
`23:17.28`	`Mikma`	`snurre: take my thanks to him too`
`23:17.31`	`Tuplad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:17.54`	`snurre`	`oh right "the banned druid", im sure there's no more than a gazillion of them :p`
`23:17.55`	`Mikma`	`lol he really reported his account as being hacked xD`
`23:18.06`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: meh, he gave me 5 warnings and kept saying "I hope this is the last time I'll be watching you"`
`23:18.22`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: my neighbour told me that same crap happened to him`
`23:18.28`	`snurre`	`Mikma: that's far from uncommon actually. The biggest workload for the EU GM team is "hacked" account and lost items`
`23:18.42`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: but he got an email saying like to reactivate your account send us your shoe size and your cdkey and we'll restore it`
`23:18.50`	`Mikma`	`snurre: and the always ban the account until they investigate it :)`
`23:18.55`	`snurre`	`not ban`
`23:18.55`	`snurre`	`lock`
`23:19.02`	`Tuplad`	`well`
`23:19.03`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: was this before or after you reported about hacking?`
`23:19.04`	`snurre`	`so no more harm can be done to it by whoever has access`
`23:19.08`	`Mikma`	`(the neighbour)`
`23:19.13`	`Tuplad`	`if they investigate, Im pretty f'd.`
`23:19.17`	`snurre`	`this is how it goes if you report it like that:`
`23:19.18`	`CIA-11`	`03tekkub * r7012 10BigWigs/Core.lua:`
`23:19.18`	`CIA-11`	`BigWigs - Fixing botched locale strings. koKReans and zhCHineese translators,`
`23:19.18`	`CIA-11`	`if you don't want this happening all the time you need to encode your strings`
`23:19.18`	`CIA-11`	`into proper esc chars. Not everyone's text editors like your funny chars.`
`23:19.22`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: me <3 blizz, me no hax`
`23:19.26`	`snurre`	`1) you report, saying "someone hacked me and i lost my items"`
`23:19.29`	`Neronix`	`Anyone know a decent quick vector graphics app? I need to quickly illustrate how all the different generations of MH3 worked :P`
`23:19.31`	`Cartas`	`I sent a GM ticket saying that hunters are clearly overpowered in PvP or otherwise. The GM said that the issue is being looked into and they'll deal with it accordingly.`
`23:19.32`	`Mikma`	`Tuplad: they don't care :P`
`23:19.35`	`Cartas`	`I think that GM lied :(`
`23:19.44`	`snurre`	`2) gm locks the account and forwards it for investigation`
`23:19.53`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: l2p, hunters is one of the easiest classes to beat :(`
`23:19.59`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: indeed`
`23:20.00`	`Cartas`	`For who?`
`23:20.06`	`snurre`	`3) result from investigation is given to you and you are told to contact the account&billing support for password reset`
`23:20.06`	`Cartas`	`I am not a warlock!`
`23:20.10`	`Cartas`	`They're tough for me!`
`23:20.11`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: cuz like, it could be the "hacker" himself trying to lock out the owner`
`23:20.21`	`Neronix`	`Cartas: They're tough for warlocks`
`23:20.22`	`Tekkub`	`okey, this has digreesed into PvP balance, that's my queue to leave`
`23:20.26`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: omg`
`23:20.31`	`mjc`	`Tuplad: you're kind of annoying`
`23:20.34`	`Cartas`	`But... but...`
`23:20.35`	`Neronix`	`warlocks = paper, hunters = scissors. Huge scissors`
`23:20.36`	`Cartas`	`Deathcoil?`
`23:20.40`	`snurre`	`4) you come back ingame, submit a ticket and hopefully get your items restored (if you havent used your one-time item reimburse already)`
`23:20.47`	`Tuplad`	`imo, dc pwns all`
`23:20.54`	`Tekkub`	`mjc, kek... wanna guess how he got banned before?`
`23:20.58`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: one time ?`
`23:21.01`	`Neronix`	`Deathcoil doesn't stop a bestial wrath hunter`
`23:21.01`	`mjc`	`no`
`23:21.07`	`Neronix`	`ask hC, HE KNOWS!`
`23:21.09`	`Cartas`	`Well, Bestial Wrath is overpowered.`
`23:21.11`	`Tuplad`	`Neronix: there arent many at 60 :(`
`23:21.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I know everything`
`23:21.21`	`hyperChipmunk`	`what do I know this time?`
`23:21.22`	`Neronix`	`See?`
`23:21.26`	`Tuplad`	`:D`
`23:21.26`	`Cartas`	`Oh ?`
`23:21.36`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: curse of exhaustion ? :)`
`23:21.36`	`snurre`	`Tuplad: each account is only allowed one item reimburse (where item has been lost due to accidental delete/disenchant/vendor, hacks or whatever)`
`23:21.36`	`Tekkub`	`what tup did last summer`
`23:21.40`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:21.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you don't want to know`
`23:21.48`	`Cartas`	`Most overpowered slowing effect in-game.`
`23:21.50`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: omg!`
`23:21.54`	`Neronix`	`hyperChipmunk: You know that hunters >>> warlocks any day of the week`
`23:22.01`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: what did I do last summer ? oO`
`23:22.04`	`mjc`	`snurre: GM told me it was 10`
`23:22.07`	`Kebinusan`	`Neronix,, pfft`
`23:22.13`	`snurre`	`mjc: it's one incident, not one item`
`23:22.14`	`Tekkub`	`ask hC sin ce you don't know`
`23:22.15`	`mjc`	`I've had 3 on my other acc't`
`23:22.19`	`Tekkub`	`I'll give you a hint`
`23:22.23`	`mjc`	`separate incidents`
`23:22.24`	`Tekkub`	`~inflatable dildos`
`23:22.25`	`purl`	`Oh yea baby, stretch that hole!`
`23:22.25`	`snurre`	`so you can have 100+ items at once, but it can only happen that one time`
`23:22.27`	`Tuplad`	`hyperChipmunk: what did I do the last summer ? >:O`
`23:22.40`	`Neronix`	`Tuplad: Troll forums? :P`
`23:22.44`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:23.08`	`Cartas`	`See a warlock one-shotting a Bestial Wrath hunter?`
`23:23.11`	`Cartas`	`It has to be that.`
`23:23.56`	`snurre`	`http://faq.wow-europe.com/en/article.php?id=918 - "However, please be aware that we will only carry out this type of reimbursement once per account. This means that if you were to lose or sell something again in the future, even if with a different character, then we will be unable to help again."`
`23:24.08`	`Tuplad`	`Neronix: that's true :(`
`23:24.27`	`Cartas`	`Snurre!`
`23:24.31`	`Kebinusan`	`snurre, wow once per account?`
`23:24.31`	`Cartas`	`I've been given two.`
`23:24.37`	`mjc`	`Mikma: ping`
`23:24.41`	`snurre`	`shh, Cartas :p`
`23:24.42`	`Mikma`	`mjc: pong`
`23:24.44`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: wtf @blizzard tbh - they're getting 30� from me each 2 months, that's like a cup of tea for whole blizzard :P`
`23:24.57`	`mjc`	`Mikma: bar2 (er, left actionbar) is longer than bar1 and bar3`
`23:25.00`	`snurre`	`6 months after you have been reimbursed once, you are allowed a second "one-time reimburse"`
`23:25.03`	`Cartas`	`Mmmmm, tea.`
`23:25.05`	`snurre`	`but youre not supposed to know that :p`
`23:25.05`	`Tekkub`	`that's their way of saying "We'll do it for you this time, but there's no guarentee we'll do it again"`
`23:25.20`	`Mikma`	`mjc: ok`
`23:25.29`	`Cartas`	`Updating the SVN has so many problems. Sigh`
`23:26.15`	`CIA-11`	`03mikma 07Mikma * r7013 10Bartender2/Bartender2.lua: Bartender2: some changes, can't remember`
`23:26.16`	`Tekkub`	`hint: don't mass update, subscribe to CIA's rss feed for the SVN`
`23:26.20`	`mjc`	`mikma: by half a button`
`23:26.23`	`Tekkub`	`only update what you NEED to update`
`23:26.25`	`mjc`	`Mikma: svn diff`
`23:26.31`	`Cartas`	`Explain, Tekkub!`
`23:26.57`	`Tuplad`	`rss cartas`
`23:26.58`	`Tuplad`	`rrs`
`23:26.58`	`Tekkub`	`http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace`
`23:27.00`	`Tuplad`	`rss*`
`23:27.09`	`cladhaire`	`updating the svn when you dont' know what you're doing has so many problems.`
`23:27.15`	`cladhaire`	`its not a personal filestore.`
`23:27.15`	`Mikma`	`mjc: well try that one`
`23:27.18`	`cladhaire`	`is a version control system`
`23:27.19`	`Mikma`	`it should be ok`
`23:27.23`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:27.35`	`Cartas`	`I just empty every single addon and update it all again.`
`23:27.41`	`Tuplad`	`lol`
`23:27.41`	`cladhaire`	`are you kidding me?`
`23:27.44`	`Tuplad`	`hahaha`
`23:27.45`	`Cartas`	`No.`
`23:27.53`	`cladhaire`	`wow.`
`23:27.56`	`Tekkub`	`Cart, run, now`
`23:27.58`	`Tuplad`	`right click the folder and use Update from SVN, or some`
`23:28.02`	`steino`	`oO`
`23:28.09`	`Tuplad`	`"SVN Update"`
`23:28.13`	`Cartas`	`I know, Tuplad. But it gets errors!`
`23:28.21`	`Tuplad`	`u updating from trunk ?`
`23:28.26`	`Cartas`	`Erm...`
`23:28.27`	`Cartas`	`SVN`
`23:28.35`	`Tuplad`	`u updating from trunk ?`
`23:28.36`	`mjc`	`use the command line one :P`
`23:28.36`	`Mikma`	`~emulate tuplad`
`23:28.38`	`purl`	`zomg, j00 can not emulate Tuplad suxor!`
`23:28.38`	`Cartas`	`In it is branches, tags and trunk.`
`23:28.40`	`Tekkub`	`read commit notes, know what changed, judge if you need to update`
`23:28.47`	`Cartas`	`Hm...`
`23:28.52`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: update from trunk :)`
`23:28.52`	`Cartas`	`I update, then read the logs.`
`23:28.55`	`Tekkub`	`if it's not a bugfix/feature you need, don't update as it may be buggy`
`23:28.56`	`Cartas`	`Is that not how it's done?`
`23:28.58`	`cladhaire`	`jesus christ.`
`23:28.59`	`cladhaire`	`no`
`23:29.01`	`cladhaire`	`you run your addons`
`23:29.05`	`cladhaire`	`if you wnt to update, then update`
`23:29.10`	`cladhaire`	`its not a nightly freaking process`
`23:29.17`	`cladhaire`	`or every 15 minutes if you ask mikma`
`23:29.17`	`Cartas`	`I do it like... 3 times a day.`
`23:29.17`	`Neronix`	`Anyone know a decent quick vector graphics app? I need to quickly illustrate how all the different generations of MH3 worked :P`
`23:29.22`	`Tuplad`	`cladhaire: meh, I update wether I want it or not, became an each day ceremony or some >_>`
`23:29.32`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: ~steveballmer`
`23:29.36`	`Tekkub`	`clad, according to CIA, we average a commit every 1.07 hours :)`
`23:29.47`	`Tuplad`	`btw why do I have such a lame ~emulate ?`
`23:30.01`	`Cartas`	`Sooo...`
`23:30.01`	`Tekkub`	`because... no I won't that was too easy`
`23:30.08`	`Cartas`	`I should read these 'commit notes'?`
`23:30.14`	`Tekkub`	`yes you should`
`23:30.20`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: subscribe to rss`
`23:30.23`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: and update if needed`
`23:30.27`	`Cartas`	`How!?`
`23:30.30`	`Mikma`	`i feel like i have pissed cladhaire off too`
`23:30.31`	`Tekkub`	`and you should pay attention to what mods break after you update`
`23:30.35`	`cladhaire`	`you haven't.`
`23:30.38`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: get an RSS reader ?`
`23:30.39`	`cladhaire`	`the way fuc king people use the svn pises me off.`
`23:30.40`	`Cartas`	`Like oUF.`
`23:30.41`	`Tekkub`	`http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace`
`23:30.42`	`Cartas`	`Always breaks!`
`23:30.43`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: Opera has a built in RSS reader`
`23:30.47`	`Cartas`	`I use FFox.`
`23:30.51`	`Tekkub`	`they're right there, or use an rss reader`
`23:30.59`	`Tekkub`	`or like me, I use rssfwd and gmail`
`23:31.03`	`Tuplad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:31.08`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.rssfwd.com/`
`23:31.08`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:31.15`	`Mikma`	`cladhaire: i'm not quite sure what you meant, you meant committing or downloading from svn?`
`23:31.16`	`Cartas`	`Cladhaire :P`
`23:31.22`	`Cartas`	`I use it my way, you use it your way.`
`23:31.48`	`Cartas`	`Do I have to use GMail, Tekkub?`
`23:31.53`	`Mikma`	`eventho Bartender2 is my code, have a look at it now`
`23:31.55`	`cladhaire`	`32215.82%neronix 20711.00%grayhoof 190 7.93%ammo 129 4.99%ckknight 119 5.81%mikma 105 4.66%fritti 91 5.00%jncl 87 4.36%rabbit 86 3.25%ag 84 3.37%saroz`
`23:31.58`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: that's so nice`
`23:32.01`	`kergoth`	`Cartas: google is your friend.`
`23:32.05`	`Tekkub`	`people that use the SVN as a "one click addon updater" piss clad off because they come and bitch about speed and mods breaking`
`23:32.08`	`kergoth`	`go read about thigns`
`23:32.11`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:32.13`	`Tekkub`	`no cart, any email`
`23:32.16`	`Cartas`	`I'd never do that, Tekkub!`
`23:32.19`	`Cartas`	`Oh, good.`
`23:32.23`	`kergoth`	`had you actually gone to the rssfwd page, you'd have the answer to your question`
`23:32.24`	`Cartas`	`Kergoth, I'm too used to Hotmail atm.`
`23:32.28`	`Neronix`	`cladhaire: What's that?`
`23:32.29`	`snurre`	`I whine about broken addons from SVN all the time :(`
`23:32.30`	`Cartas`	`I do use Google though.`
`23:32.33`	`kergoth`	`but clearly actually using a web browser is a problem for some people`
`23:32.40`	`Mikma`	`stats!`
`23:32.46`	`Tekkub`	`and kery steps into the fray`
`23:32.47`	`cladhaire`	`Neronix: User requests by rank =)`
`23:33.02`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: that site is wonderful`
`23:33.08`	`Neronix`	`What do you mean?`
`23:33.09`	`Cartas`	`I assume you're implying using a web browser is a problem for me!`
`23:33.12`	`Tekkub`	`is it just me, or did it get a lot meaner in here all of the sudden?`
`23:33.12`	`Cartas`	`Well, it isn't, Kergoth!`
`23:33.16`	`Neronix`	`how many updates/commits?`
`23:33.24`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: it did actually`
`23:33.28`	`kergoth`	`then prove it by actually using it instead of wasting people's time with silly questions`
`23:33.31`	`Cartas`	`Yeh, everyone vs. Cartas.`
`23:33.37`	`Cartas`	`:'(`
`23:33.45`	`Tekkub`	`kergy, str8 to the point and suck a bitch`
`23:33.55`	`kergoth`	`~kergoth`
`23:33.57`	`purl`	`you are probably Chris Larson, an open source developer currently working for Openedhand Ltd (o-hand.com), remotely, from AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSlib. Often the resident BOFH, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware.`
`23:34.02`	`Tekkub`	`how would we drive the bad users away without you`
`23:34.10`	`steino`	`Cartas: :<`
`23:34.12`	`kergoth`	`excellent question`
`23:34.14`	`cladhaire`	`By the way`
`23:34.23`	`Cartas`	`lol, Steino.`
`23:34.30`	`Cartas`	`I took them on and survived!`
`23:34.34`	`cladhaire`	`svn.wowace.com has used 6GB of bandwidth in the past four days`
`23:34.34`	`steino`	`!`
`23:34.40`	`Mikma`	`holy mother`
`23:34.45`	`Neronix`	`:O`
`23:34.49`	`Tekkub`	`someone kick cart from the channel just so he knows he didn't win`
`23:34.53`	`Cartas`	`Nooooo :(`
`23:34.55`	`kergoth`	`hahah`
`23:34.58`	`Cartas`	`I didn't say I won!`
`23:35.02`	`kergoth`	`dont give me ideas`
`23:35.04`	`cladhaire`	`It only used 18GB all of last month tho.`
`23:35.07`	`Cartas`	`I just... didn't lose.`
`23:35.08`	`steino`	`he lived`
`23:35.09`	`Tekkub`	`survival implies winning`
`23:35.10`	`steino`	`:)`
`23:35.13`	`Cartas`	`lol.`
`23:35.16`	`Neronix`	`SVNDevs:Annoy("REQUEST", "External caching plzzzzzz")`
`23:35.18`	`Cartas`	`You're so bloodthirsty, Tekkub.`
`23:35.32`	`Tuplad`	`he plays an orc`
`23:35.33`	`ckknight`	`lol.`
`23:35.46`	`Tekkub`	`I play WITH orcs... and tauren... and bears...`
`23:35.50`	`Tekkub`	`and furblogs...`
`23:35.54`	`Tekkub`	`and moonkin...`
`23:35.56`	`Cartas`	`I'm a Tauren.`
`23:35.58`	`Cartas`	`Play with me!`
`23:36.01`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea that's what we forgot`
`23:36.04`	`Tuplad`	`Im a, well, Human Paladin.`
`23:36.12`	`Tekkub`	`Cart, me == big furry fag`
`23:36.14`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: do you play with Paladins ?`
`23:36.22`	`Cartas`	`Big furry fag = friendly?`
`23:36.33`	`Tuplad`	`I think the last part was most important`
`23:36.34`	`Tekkub`	`furry pally or tard-face one that runs like he has a stick up his ass?`
`23:36.43`	`cladhaire`	`when did we start using svn.wowace.com?`
`23:36.46`	`ckknight`	`Cartas, Horde ftw.`
`23:36.49`	`cladhaire`	`apparently 04-13`
`23:36.51`	`Cartas`	`Yes!`
`23:36.54`	`Tekkub`	`dorf pallies >> human pallies`
`23:36.56`	`snurre`	`surviving is winning`
`23:37.00`	`Tuplad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:37.03`	`snurre`	`oops, nvm.. slow`
`23:37.09`	`cladhaire`	`We've used 60GB of bandwidth on the svn.`
`23:37.10`	`Cartas`	`Gnome Pallies > *`
`23:37.11`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: humans are retarded, ingame :(`
`23:37.11`	`cladhaire`	`that's just wrong.`
`23:37.22`	`ckknight`	`it is just wrong`
`23:37.22`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: dont mess with paladins, they whoop asses.`
`23:37.23`	`Tekkub`	`not just in game...`
`23:37.26`	`Cartas`	`I didn't update THAT much, Cladhaire.`
`23:37.33`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: you've got a point there :P`
`23:37.36`	`Tekkub`	`whats wrong with gnome pallies? don't like MicroBubbles?`
`23:37.40`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:37.45`	`Tuplad`	`um`
`23:37.48`	`Neronix`	`cladhaire: So I'm updating too much?`
`23:37.52`	`Tekkub`	`o <--- gnome pally`
`23:37.59`	`kergoth`	`i do a one time periodic sync of all the deltas, then all my activity it local`
`23:38.00`	`cladhaire`	`so anyone who EVER bitches about the svn.. find me somewhere that allows 6GB of bandwidth in three days, and still has decent updtime =)`
`23:38.05`	`Tuplad`	`cladhaire: how much am I updating ? show me show me`
`23:38.08`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:38.24`	`Cartas`	`I'm on 14MB transferred on this current update. I'm in tags upto BlizzardUI.`
`23:38.26`	`Cartas`	`Got a long way to go.`
`23:38.28`	`Neronix`	`cladhaire: I don't bitch, I just mention when the datumcenter goes boom :P`
`23:38.38`	`cladhaire`	`Cartas: STOP RIGHT THE FUCK NOW`
`23:38.38`	`cladhaire`	`jesus chris.`
`23:38.47`	`Tuplad`	`:O`
`23:38.52`	`cladhaire`	`why in the hell are you download blizzard's ui fro tags?`
`23:38.58`	`Neronix`	`~whalestab Cartas`
`23:39.00`	`purl`	`ACTION stabs Cartas with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery`
`23:39.00`	`cladhaire`	`what in the shit are you doing?`
`23:39.03`	`Cartas`	`The tags section is useless?`
`23:39.08`	`cladhaire`	`YES?`
`23:39.08`	`cladhaire`	`ffs`
`23:39.09`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: dead meat, gl.`
`23:39.11`	`Tekkub`	`ctrl-a, right click, SVN Update`
`23:39.13`	`cladhaire`	`someone make a wiki page now.`
`23:39.13`	`Cartas`	`I've cancelled!`
`23:39.14`	`cladhaire`	`ffs.`
`23:39.22`	`cladhaire`	`Tekkub: Wiki. now..`
`23:39.23`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`23:39.28`	`Tekkub`	`meh, effort`
`23:39.30`	`Cartas`	`I'm just updating the trunk now.`
`23:39.31`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: like anyone is reading it ?`
`23:39.32`	`Cartas`	`Happy? :)`
`23:39.32`	`Neronix`	`~whalenametheft Cartas`
`23:39.33`	`purl`	`ACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) steals Cartas's name. The now anonymous target weeps.`
`23:39.35`	`Tekkub`	`you wiki this time`
`23:39.35`	`cladhaire`	`Cartas: No.`
`23:39.36`	`steino`	`hmm`
`23:39.36`	`cladhaire`	`STOP.`
`23:39.40`	`cladhaire`	`unles syou know what you're doing on the SVN`
`23:39.41`	`Cartas`	`Stopped`
`23:39.41`	`cladhaire`	`dont' do anything`
`23:39.44`	`cladhaire`	`and if you have questions ask.`
`23:39.47`	`cladhaire`	`the SVN works like thi`
`23:39.51`	`cladhaire`	`if you want to run on the cutting edge`
`23:39.55`	`cladhaire`	`you check out the directories you want`
`23:39.56`	`Cartas`	`I click Update, I get latest addons.`
`23:39.59`	`cladhaire`	`and JUST the directories you want.`
`23:40.00`	`Cartas`	`I install latest addons.`
`23:40.02`	`Cartas`	`I play WoW!`
`23:40.04`	`Tekkub`	`Cart, blind updating is bad`
`23:40.09`	`Cartas`	`Hm.`
`23:40.10`	`snurre`	`jesus fckin christ.. 1811 gromsblood on my alt`
`23:40.17`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: I had a link to the SVN wiki in my sig, I have 600+ posts on that forum, and everyday there's some tard that starts a thread with " how do I use the svn ? "`
`23:40.29`	`Kebinusan`	`snurre, mailto Kebinusan on shadowsong`
`23:40.35`	`Tuplad`	`snurre: givee!!`
`23:40.37`	`snurre`	`im on dragonmaw kthx :p`
`23:40.39`	`Cartas`	`I know how to use the SVN... I just use it... somewhat... inefficiently... it seems.`
`23:40.40`	`Mikma`	`mjc: is that version any better?`
`23:40.50`	`Tekkub`	`oh so tuppy is the one sending all these users at our SVN`
`23:40.52`	`mjc`	`Mikma: sec, got to nil the db again`
`23:40.57`	`cladhaire`	`Cartas: do you need every single addon in trunk?`
`23:41.01`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: no :(`
`23:41.03`	`Cartas`	`Well`
`23:41.08`	`Cartas`	`I check all the addons every so often.`
`23:41.12`	`Cartas`	`To see if I like any.`
`23:41.16`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: well actually I am :P but not 'all'`
`23:41.21`	`Tekkub`	`cart, that "somewhat" multiplied exponentially thanks to SVN:Externals and Ace2`
`23:41.24`	`Mikma`	`mjc: the paddings are screwed up on some bars so don't worry about them`
`23:41.34`	`Cartas`	`Although I'll never install FuBar.`
`23:41.47`	`Kebinusan`	`zomg why not`
`23:41.50`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: omg`
`23:41.51`	`Kebinusan`	`fubar is teh sex`
`23:42.01`	`Cartas`	`I can see how much gold I have by going to my bag!`
`23:42.05`	`mjc`	`Mikma: bar 3 is still too short :)`
`23:42.08`	`kergoth`	`i can live without fubar, i tried not running it for a while`
`23:42.08`	`Cartas`	`I can see where I am by looking around!`
`23:42.09`	`Tekkub`	`I can't`
`23:42.11`	`kergoth`	`but its still handy`
`23:42.17`	`Tuplad`	`fubar > all tbfh`
`23:42.20`	`Tuplad`	`I like fubar_location`
`23:42.24`	`Cartas`	`I can see my honour by pressing H.`
`23:42.31`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: but it doesnt show today's honor :D`
`23:42.31`	`snurre`	`8864g <3 FuBar - MoneyFu`
`23:42.40`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: and you cant auto release`
`23:42.46`	`Kebinusan`	`damn farmer`
`23:42.47`	`Tekkub`	`cart, can you see how many people have picked each type of roll`
`23:42.49`	`Tuplad`	`ckknight: add auto join BG to FuBar_BG please :(`
`23:42.50`	`Kebinusan`	`<-- Poorlock`
`23:42.58`	`Cartas`	`Do I need to? :o`
`23:43.00`	`snurre`	`Kebinusan: some of the guildbank ;)`
`23:43.01`	`Tekkub`	`how bout a list of all white and grey items in your bags sorted by price`
`23:43.03`	`ckknight`	`Tuplad, that's not my project`
`23:43.09`	`Cartas`	`Not needed.`
`23:43.34`	`Mikma`	`mjc: funny, since my bars are perfect .P`
`23:43.34`	`Cartas`	`I just find Fubar and Titan Panel somewhat useless.`
`23:43.34`	`Tuplad`	`ckknight: hm, thought it was - time to use wowi`
`23:43.35`	`Tekkub`	`or maybe what whiney bitches need buffs (without NeedyList)`
`23:43.42`	`Tekkub`	`and I mean ONLY the people that need something`
`23:43.44`	`Cartas`	`I'm a warrior :P`
`23:43.48`	`mjc`	`Mikma: nil it and see :P`
`23:43.50`	`steino`	`a damn good one too`
`23:43.52`	`steino`	`Cartas <3`
`23:43.53`	`Tekkub`	`oh... that explains it all`
`23:43.54`	`cladhaire`	`Cartas: UYet you update the entire svn trunk?`
`23:43.57`	`Cartas`	`Thanks Latterlig <3`
`23:44.05`	`ckknight`	`also, if anybody wants to claim one of my FuBar plugins, I'm all for it`
`23:44.06`	`Cartas`	`Not just the trunk, Cladhaire. :O`
`23:44.10`	`Cartas`	`Tags and branches.`
`23:44.17`	`Tuplad`	`-_-`
`23:44.20`	`Cartas`	`(Maybe I shouldn't have said that)`
`23:44.24`	`cladhaire`	`if you're a real person i commend you`
`23:44.29`	`cladhaire`	`if you're a troll.. congrats =)`
`23:44.33`	`cladhaire`	`you're spectacular.`
`23:44.37`	`Mikma`	`ouch`
`23:44.38`	`steino`	`cladhaire: Cartas is kinda special :<`
`23:44.39`	`Cartas`	`Well...`
`23:44.42`	`Cartas`	`Branches has oUF 2!`
`23:44.47`	`Tekkub`	`someone broke clad`
`23:44.48`	`Tuplad`	`steino: special olympics ?`
`23:44.48`	`Mikma`	`Cartas: are you tuplads brother?`
`23:44.50`	`Tekkub`	`REZ!`
`23:44.54`	`Tuplad`	`Mikma: noob`
`23:44.55`	`steino`	`no <.<`
`23:44.57`	`Cartas`	`Not to my recollection, Mikma.`
`23:45.18`	`Mikma`	`mjc: nilled, perfect`
`23:45.30`	`Cartas`	`cladhaire: I have all the addons I use in a different folder, and I update those.`
`23:45.39`	`Cartas`	`Does that make you a bit happier?`
`23:45.52`	`cladhaire`	`no, because it makes your full update even sillier.`
`23:45.53`	`Tekkub`	`Cart, are you updating sans-externals`
`23:45.57`	`Cartas`	`lol`
`23:46.01`	`cladhaire`	`not that i thought that was possible =)`
`23:46.02`	`mjc`	`Mikma: weird, 3rd action bar is definitely short for me`
`23:46.06`	`Cartas`	`Sans-externals?`
`23:46.13`	`cladhaire`	`Tekkub: Thats a "no"`
`23:46.19`	`Cartas`	`Probably.`
`23:46.22`	`Tekkub`	`or a "what is sans"?`
`23:46.25`	`Mikma`	`mjc: that's really weird`
`23:46.25`	`mjc`	`without`
`23:46.28`	`Cartas`	`Some font thing? :p`
`23:46.35`	`Tekkub`	`close`
`23:46.42`	`Tekkub`	`a serif is a font thing`
`23:46.43`	`cladhaire`	`i'm a 13 year old boy!`
`23:46.44`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: think it means not/without in french ;p`
`23:46.52`	`Tuplad`	`~emulate cladhaire`
`23:46.53`	`purl`	`Good code is something to appreciate like a work of art.`
`23:46.54`	`Tekkub`	`sans-serif is a lack of those font things`
`23:47.07`	`Cartas`	`Serif = All letters are equally spaced?`
`23:47.11`	`Cartas`	`Or, is that something else? :p`
`23:47.19`	`vhaarr`	`That's monospace.`
`23:47.22`	`Cartas`	`Ah, okay.`
`23:47.31`	`Tekkub`	`Serif is a lil "curly" on the edge, supposed to make the typeface easier to read`
`23:47.41`	`cladhaire`	`Tuplad: I need more emulates in there.`
`23:47.42`	`Cartas`	`Oh yeh.`
`23:47.45`	`Tekkub`	`Times New Roman is Serif'd, Ariel is sans-serif`
`23:47.51`	`cladhaire`	`i've hg given you guys a good 10 months of quotes at this point =)`
`23:47.53`	`Mikma`	`mjc: how can it be a different length since all the values are identical in the 3 bars, well, 4 bars including bar10`
`23:47.54`	`Tuplad`	`cladhaire: change my emulate :(`
`23:47.56`	`Cartas`	`So, why do you ask if I update 'Sans externals'?`
`23:48.00`	`Tuplad`	`~emulate Tuplad`
`23:48.02`	`purl`	`zomg, j00 can not emulate Tuplad suxor!`
`23:48.23`	`Tekkub`	`because updating without externals will save a lot of duplicate updates`
`23:48.40`	`Tekkub`	`but you'll have tco maintain the satandalone versions of the libraries needed by your mods`
`23:48.41`	`vhaarr`	`Cartas: "sans" == "without"`
`23:48.52`	`Cartas`	`Ohhh`
`23:48.54`	`Cartas`	`I always update with those.`
`23:48.58`	`mjc`	`hmm, it worked the second time`
`23:49.04`	`cladhaire`	`hahaha`
`23:49.07`	`cladhaire`	`and you people wonder why the svn is slow =)`
`23:49.09`	ag`	`exalted with AB :S`
`23:49.15`	`Cartas`	`I never complained it was slow.`
`23:49.20`	`Tekkub`	`clad, it's only as slow as it's users`
`23:49.22`	`Cartas`	`I think it's fast!`
`23:49.25`	ag`	`now I have 26000 left in wsg :P`
`23:49.30`	`eternally777`	`grats ag`
`23:49.36`	`Tekkub`	`... and your host`
`23:49.38`	`Cartas`	`And Tekkub, I'm offended!`
`23:50.07`	`Tuplad`	`Cartas: hah!`
`23:50.13`	`Tekkub`	`clad,2 link him that SVN thread so he'll see why we (you) are so hostile about this`
`23:50.22`	`Cartas`	`You make it sound like I've never been on the Wiki site for this...`
`23:50.27`	`Cartas`	`But I've been there!`
`23:50.32`	`cladhaire`	`hahahahah`
`23:50.34`	`cladhaire`	`Tekkub: I'm fine =)`
`23:50.38`	`Kebinusan`	`~svn`
`23:50.39`	`purl`	`well, subversion is version control software. see http://subversion.tigris.org/ it aims to be a better CVS than CVS.`
`23:50.39`	`Tekkub`	`link, bitch`
`23:50.46`	`Tekkub`	`~fuck you`
`23:50.48`	`purl`	`I've heard better pick up lines from a goat with Aspergers.`
`23:51.34`	`ckknight`	`purl sucks`
`23:51.35`	`purl`	`For $5 I'll do more than that!`
`23:52.01`	`Tekkub`	`I hate purl's language filter`
`23:52.01`	`Kebinusan`	`10 dollah me love you long time`
`23:52.01`	`Thrae`	`Haha`
`23:52.06`	`Cartas`	`Is TortoiseSVN not the best SVN Client?`
`23:52.12`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r7014 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB - fixed bug in profile switching`
`23:52.14`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, it has a language filter?`
`23:52.15`	`cladhaire`	`i love this guy`
`23:52.19`	`Tekkub`	`at least it doesn't filter the keywords, only the definitions`
`23:52.25`	`Tekkub`	`yes ckk...`
`23:52.34`	`Tekkub`	`purl, bfdd is big floppy donkey dick`
`23:52.35`	`purl`	`Tekkub: please, watch your language.`
`23:52.39`	`Tekkub`	`see`
`23:52.42`	`Tekkub`	`but...`
`23:53.01`	`Tekkub`	`purl, big floppy donkey dick is <reply> Oh kinky!`
`23:53.02`	`purl`	`okay, Tekkub`
`23:53.06`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`23:53.11`	`Tekkub`	`~big floppy donkey dick`
`23:53.13`	`purl`	`Oh kinky!`
`23:53.13`	`Neronix`	`How rare are pets that share the same name as players?`
`23:53.23`	`cladhaire`	`Neronix: Not rare at all on my server`
`23:53.24`	`Tuplad`	`Neronix: not rare`
`23:53.24`	`Tekkub`	`Nero, ask Hobbes`
`23:53.48`	`Neronix`	`Hobbes: ping`
`23:53.53`	`Neronix`	`... timeout? :O`
`23:53.58`	`Tekkub`	`he doesn't get it...`
`23:53.58`	`CIA-11`	`03ckknight * r7015 10FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin-2.0 - bugfix for profile switching`
`23:54.01`	`Cartas`	`Okay, Cladhaire & Tekkub! I've just read the 'What is the SVN' wiki!`
`23:54.02`	`Neronix`	`I did :P`
`23:54.12`	`ckknight`	`Cartas, good work`
`23:54.16`	`Cartas`	`Now can I update everything?`
`23:54.18`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:54.29`	`Cartas`	`:)`
`23:54.35`	`Cartas`	`Thanks Tekkub, that means a lot to me.`
`23:54.37`	`ckknight`	`Cartas, my recommendation is to browse the svn for what you specifically want.`
`23:54.37`	`Neronix`	`Would you guys lynch me if I decided to habve MH3 ignore pets?`
`23:54.38`	`Kebinusan`	`Im always amazed by how many night elf hunters with variations of Drizzt there are`
`23:54.46`	`cladhaire`	`Legolasss`
`23:54.51`	`ckknight`	`Drizzt?`
`23:54.51`	`Tekkub`	`nero: yes`
`23:54.56`	`Tekkub`	`clad, Sephiroth`
`23:54.57`	`cladhaire`	`~Drizzt`
`23:55.06`	`Cartas`	`I already have it in my addons folder, Ckknight!`
`23:55.07`	`Neronix`	`Tekkub: Why?`
`23:55.09`	`cladhaire`	`=(`
`23:55.09`	`Kebinusan`	`~wiki Drizzt`
`23:55.11`	`snurre`	`legolasses, drizzts, gimlis and aragorns`
`23:55.13`	`Tekkub`	`nero, I dunno`
`23:55.26`	`cladhaire`	`~wiki Drizzt Do'Urden`
`23:55.30`	`ckknight`	`okay, who wants to test FuBar with profile switching?`
`23:55.36`	`Tekkub`	`funny thing, of all the Sephy children, I could use the name Raogrimm and noone would class me with them`
`23:55.45`	`Cartas`	`Ckknight, I can!`
`23:55.56`	`snurre`	`im also amazed over how many people name their chars retarded stuff like "imafuckingretard" or wtfever`
`23:56.10`	`Tekkub`	`or snurre`
`23:56.12`	`ckknight`	`Cartas, okay, check out FuBar on the SVN in trunk and FuBar_ClockFu in branches`
`23:56.14`	`Tekkub`	`what is that?`
`23:56.19`	`Tekkub`	`a snoring, purring cat?`
`23:56.27`	`ckknight`	`lol.`
`23:56.30`	`snurre`	`Snurre Sprett is the norwegian name for Bugs Bunny`
`23:56.32`	`ckknight`	`I always wondered`
`23:56.38`	`Cartas`	`Yes, Ckknight. I just put them in and check it works?`
`23:56.46`	`ckknight`	`basically`
`23:56.49`	`snurre`	`incidently, "� snurre" also means "to spin"`
`23:56.57`	`ckknight`	`then you right-click on FuBar and change profiles randomly`
`23:57.14`	`Cartas`	`Okay.`
`23:57.21`	`Neronix`	`I can either make a mess of things by segregating pet caching from player caching, or ignore pets entirely`
`23:57.30`	`Neronix`	`I'd rather not do the former`
`23:57.31`	`ckknight`	`like change settings in ClockFu, switch profile, change other settings`
`23:57.31`	`Tuplad`	`cow on raptor > *`
`23:57.34`	`snurre`	`screw pets`
`23:57.37`	`ckknight`	`then switch back and forth`
`23:57.43`	`ckknight`	`until you find a bug`
`23:57.47`	`Cartas`	`Okay.`
`23:57.51`	`Cartas`	`I'm good at finding bugs!`
`23:57.54`	`Tekkub`	`hey, a Raogrimm in WoW, at least he's a tauren http://www.wowguru.com/db/profiles/raogrimm-id13881/`
`23:57.56`	`ckknight`	`good stuff`
`23:57.56`	`kergoth`	`i've been doing that a lot ck, just in the course of setting up my profiles for all my characters`
`23:58.03`	`Cartas`	`otravi_UnitFrames wouldn't be the same without me! :p`
`23:58.06`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, alright`
`23:58.06`	`kergoth`	`found a bunch of them, not nailed downt eh circumstnaces everywhere though`
`23:58.10`	`kergoth`	`i'll try to`
`23:58.19`	`Neronix`	`anyone else who agrees with "screw pets"?`
`23:58.24`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, want to update what you have now (FuBar and ClockFu) and do some testing?`
`23:58.28`	`snurre`	`oUF would be even less without haste tho :p`
`23:58.28`	`Cartas`	`Haha`
`23:58.30`	`Tuplad`	`Tekkub: who's that ?`
`23:58.31`	`ckknight`	`it should work a lot better now`
`23:58.31`	`Tekkub`	`I do, but for different reasons`
`23:58.32`	`Cartas`	`Haste!`
`23:58.36`	`Cartas`	`Hi old chap! <3`
`23:58.41`	`Neronix`	`lol Tek`
`23:58.49`	`Tekkub`	`tup: http://www.shadow-ffxi.com/HistoryofVanadiel/chap03.htm`
`23:58.53`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: i will after this run, about to go to mc with my guild for the first time. i dont expect it to last long :P`
`23:58.58`	`Tekkub`	`only the bestest Galka evar!`
`23:59.07`	`haste`	`hello Cartas`
`23:59.12`	`Cartas`	`<3`
`23:59.18`	`Cartas`	`Tell these guys I know how an SVN works.`
`23:59.26`	`*** join/#wowace kaybe (n=kaybe@p54866433.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`23:59.44`	`haste`	`You know how to do a checkout and update at least :p`
`23:59.51`	`Cartas`	`Checkout?`
`23:59.52`	`Cartas`	`What's that?`
`23:59.56`	`Tekkub`	`lol`
`23:59.59`	`haste`	`haha`

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