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00:00.18Mikmayeah that's why i said it's open now ;)
00:00.47hastetransfer off the server has been avaible for a while
00:04.30Mikmawhat's wrong with woweu servers
00:04.54steino<PROTECTED>
00:04.55steino!
00:09.36hasteWhere did I get Venomhide poison?
00:09.40hasteas a weapon buff
00:09.51Nightdewafk
00:11.13cladhairehaste: Attacking venomhide raptors
00:11.33hastewhy would I get a weapon buff from that :o ?
00:11.42CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5363 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
00:11.42CIA-11AceTab-2.0:
00:11.42CIA-11- Fixed some edge cases
00:11.42CIA-11- Further filtering beyond the regex can be achieved in the usage function. If the usage function returns false, then AceTab will not process that set.
00:11.46hyperChipmunkbecause they have venomous hides
00:11.58hyperChipmunkyou get the secretion on your weapon
00:12.05cladhairehyperChipmunk: yep
00:12.07hyperChipmunkone of the coolest buffs in the game, imo
00:12.37hasteoO
00:12.42hastehellraiser ganked me again
00:12.56hasteand he still uses that strange stun lock tactic =\
00:13.09hyperChipmunkseems like it works
00:13.23hasteI'm ten levels below, so no wonder :p
00:13.45hasteit's chea shot, vanish, cheap shot, kidney :<
00:13.54hastewhich is retarded
00:14.03hyperChipmunkcheap shot give you combo points?
00:14.08hastetwo
00:14.13hyperChipmunkmakes sense to me then
00:14.21hastebut why would you use vanish like that?
00:14.29TemI'd put a gouge in there first
00:14.29hyperChipmunkfor two free combo points
00:14.32hasteon another rogue whose ten levels below you :p
00:15.21hasteWell, I'll just move my warlock here again
00:16.05CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5364 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua:
00:16.05CIA-11AceConsole-2.0:
00:16.05CIA-11- AceTab usage function returns false if the slash command gets passed to it, but is not an AceConsole command
00:17.16Temcan I lear 2 handed axes in UC?
00:17.21Temlearn*
00:17.22Mikmahaste: well it's not retarded, it keeps you stunned all the way until he can gank you in the back
00:17.48TemMikma, you see to be missing the point
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00:17.55hyperChipmunkbut he's already stunned
00:18.03Mikmas/back/back./
00:18.03hyperChipmunkbut it's not retarded
00:18.03Temit's a 5 minute cooldown that he could easily beat haste without since he's 10 levels higher
00:18.04Mikmalol
00:18.08hyperChipmunkhe gets two free combo points
00:18.11hyperChipmunkit's just his method
00:18.13cladhaireaybe he doesn't have imp gouge
00:18.14cladhairelol
00:18.26hyperChipmunkcheapshot for 2, vanish, cheapshot for 2 more
00:18.27hastehe could have done: cheap shot - gogue - kidney
00:18.30hasteI would still die from it
00:18.33cladhaireyep
00:18.57Temoh, also, vanish takes a reagent
00:19.08cladhairewhich costs like 10c =)
00:19.09hyperChipmunkdude has a system
00:19.21hyperChipmunkprobably would do the same if you were 20 levels below
00:19.23hastehe did the same against my warlock
00:19.28hyperChipmunkor same level
00:19.30hastewhich also means he died ;)
00:19.44Temlol
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00:25.57*** topic/#wowace is wowace.com | ace.pastebin.ca | http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT | Ace 2.0.3768 Beta Release [07/01/06] |Zen and the Art of Kicking Users to death wearing pink fluffy bunny slippers so that it takes longer
00:25.58Mikmacladhaire: yeah that's true what ag` said :P
00:26.03Mikma~roulette
00:26.04purlACTION watches mikma pull the trigger:  Click!
00:26.10cladhaireguys, this isn't difficult.
00:26.16cladhairejust look at the freaking code.
00:26.38cladhaireMikma: what do you have bound to shift-rightclick?
00:26.41Mikmacladhaire: but, there's somethin wrong with something :(
00:26.42cladhairein clique
00:26.46Mikmacladhaire: PW:S max
00:26.48haste"code performs lazyness on You."
00:26.59Mikmacladhaire: this only happens on PartyMember4
00:27.20Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/agmenu.jpg
00:27.22ag`I have a hard time grasping how that could only happen on party member 4
00:27.22cladhaireclique doesn't discriminate
00:27.23Mikmathere's the ss
00:27.45cladhaireif shift-rightclick works on the other frames, then clique is working correctly.
00:27.55cladhaireits simple, see whats being called
00:27.58cladhaireadd debug messages
00:28.00Mikma(that is just right after shift-rightmousebutton pm4)
00:28.14cladhairei'm not going to download an entirely set of unit frames and test something (nto to mention not being a place to test) when you can easily test it yourself.
00:28.16cladhairenot to be a dick
00:28.24cladhairebut just whining "it doesn't work" doesn't really help =)
00:28.36Mikmawell tell me how can i test it and i will
00:28.42Mikmai really have no idea what to do with that
00:28.43cladhairethere are a few functions
00:28.45cladhaireadd print statements
00:28.58cladhairesee whats being called in the plugin
00:29.03Mikmajust like saying "do a little c++ program that will fap your duck"
00:30.03cladhairehttp://pastebin.ca/96595
00:30.05cladhairesee what happens.
00:30.33Mikmaso i put that into plugins/ag*.lua
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00:30.40cladhaireyes.
00:30.50cladhairei'm assuming you have Ace still installed?
00:30.52Mikmaokies, will let you know when i have a chance to test it
00:30.57cladhaireok
00:31.16cladhairei need to know which versino of unit frames (Where i can download it) in order to test anyway
00:31.19cladhaireso if you have a link
00:31.35Mikmasvn /root/trunk/ag_UnitFrames
00:31.46cladhairek
00:31.54cladhairedid you post the bug somewhere?
00:32.01cladhairei have quite a long to-do list at the moment.
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00:32.15Mikmano, only here. and don't worry i'll test it first to see what's going on
00:32.57Mikmasince it requires a full party it might take a while to test etc
00:33.09cladhairesign into draka, have someone invite you to the raid
00:33.19Mikmai'm on EU
00:33.29cladhaireaah
00:33.31cladhairewell then =)
00:33.36cladhaireyou guys should do the same
00:33.54Mikmathat's the reason why some people don't understand me at all, english is not my mainlanguage ;)
00:33.58Syzxwhat's draka?
00:34.02cladhairei understand you just fine =)
00:34.08cladhaireSyzx: We have a guild on draka, with an always open raid.
00:34.23Syzxah, what's the use of that? :p
00:34.47Syzxanything else but testing modding?
00:34.49cladhaireso we can test things whenever
00:34.53cladhairenope =)
00:34.59hastePerfect
00:35.06hasteLogin server is down, after what I know
00:35.15SyzxUS or EU?
00:35.18cladhaireUS
00:35.19hasteand I can' interact with the 3D world suddenly
00:35.52Mikmalol there's something wrong with eu servers
00:35.58Syzxwe're havign some troubles in EU too
00:36.02Mikmalike 60% of them are "down" or so
00:36.18Syzxyes, weird stuff :P
00:36.24Mikmaatleast they are missing from the serverlist
00:36.35Mikmaand takes ages to login to a server that's in the list
00:36.36Syzxhttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/serverstatus/
00:36.57Mikmawow
00:37.10Syzxnothing on the realm status forums yet
00:37.23CIA-1103grennon * r5365 10GMail/GMail.lua: GMail: Fixed Mail Forwarding
00:38.02hasteSyzx: I'm on EU
00:38.40Mikmahaste: you're on grim batol now right?
00:38.49hasteYes
00:38.52Mikmamarked as "down" on serverstatus
00:38.54Mikmadon't logout...
00:38.58hasteI know :p
00:39.04haste0234.50| [           haste] Login server is down, after what I know
00:39.18Mikmathis is funny
00:39.23Mikmacheck out the german servers
00:39.30Syzx0234.50 funky timezone, internet time?
00:39.39Mikma02:34:50
00:39.48CIA-1103grennon * r5366 10GMail/GMail.lua: GMail: Open Selected Possibly Fixed
00:40.04Mikma<0339> <Mikma> this is funny
00:40.18hasteI like my time stamp!
00:40.22hasteused it for ages
00:40.34SyzxIt doesnt show in irssi :(
00:40.40hasteI use irssi
00:40.44Mikmame too..
00:40.54haste/set timestamp_format
00:41.06Syzxwhen you copy paste it it doesnt show properly on my screen
00:41.13hasteI use %H%M.%S|
00:41.36Syzxah, then it does show :p
00:41.41haste;)
00:41.42Syzxweird timestamp tbh
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00:41.57hasteI'm used to it, I hate the default one
00:41.59Tupladlol !
00:42.07Syzxwhat's the default one?
00:42.08Tupladwe just did a pug run on a PTR realm
00:42.13Tuplad2 bosses down :D loads of lewt
00:42.40hasteSyzx: uhm, not sure anymore :p
00:42.51hastebut I'm thinking of: HH:MM:SS
00:44.24SyzxDo you recon Blizzard is working on fixing the servers at this hour on a saturday night? :(
00:46.30Mikmai think default one is %H:%M
00:46.34Mikmai got %H%M
00:47.13Syzxtimestamp_format = [%H:%M:%S]
00:47.20hasteoO
00:47.20Syzxdoes the job :P
00:47.27hasteI just figured out the very old nil bug in oUF
00:47.51hastenow I just need to figure out what I did to work around it
00:48.34Mikmathis wow-crash has something to do with german
00:49.14SyzxYeah, just blame the germans :p
00:49.30Mikmawell look the serverlist
00:49.54Mikmaall germanservers are down meaning the blizz german is down or so
00:50.37SyzxOr, look at it from the other way. Only 1 datacentre is 'up'. I bet it's a trick of the french!
00:50.51Mikmahmm
00:50.53Mikmagood point there
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00:53.41SyzxBlizzard should add a feature to their website: "Call me when the servers are back online." or maybe send Texts ^^
00:54.34KebinusanNotify me when server latency and item lag drops below 500ms
00:54.36Mikmawith the money they get from people playing the game they should. bastards
00:55.21Mikmahehe
00:55.24Mikmanice signature:
00:55.24Mikma~ roses are red ~ your gay ~
00:55.26purl...but roses is already something else...
00:55.36Mikma~roses
00:55.37purlroses are red
00:55.41cladhairei own gay?
00:56.01Syzx~gay
00:56.02purl[gay] the queerest thing I've ever heard.
00:56.08Mikmahahaha
00:56.13cladhaire~queer
00:56.23cladhaire~cry
00:56.24purlACTION cries and sobs until he nearly drowns in his own tears
00:56.34Syzx~cladhaire
00:56.36purlextra, extra, read all about it, cladhaire is the current author of WatchDog, PerfectRaid, and a number of smaller addons.  He is also a core developer of the Ace project.
00:56.50SyzxAnd owns gay.
00:56.55Syzxhappy now? :D
00:57.07cladhairelol
00:57.24cladhaireno purl, cladhaire is the current author of WatchDog, PerfectRaid, and a number of smaller addons.  He is also a core developer of the Ace project.  He owns his own gay.
00:57.38cladhairedamn i always get the no syntax wrong
00:57.42cladhaireoh well, i wans't too excited about it either.
00:57.55Syzxhaha
00:58.10Syzxwhen will you be picking developing on PR again clad?
00:58.18cladhaireonce clique is stable and running well
00:58.23cladhairethat frees up time for wd and pr.
00:58.27cladhairepr will be before watchdog;
00:58.33Syzx/cheer
00:58.34cladhairebut they'll be developed together
00:58.38cladhaireusing the same framework
00:58.52Syzxpr is just a bit too minimalistic as it stands now ;-)
00:59.00cladhairevisually, no it has too much
00:59.06cladhairefeatures, i would agree slightly
00:59.13Mikmacladhaire: but clique is stable and running well already
00:59.22cladhaireMikma: Not when people keep reporting issues.
00:59.24cladhairesome of them large issues.
00:59.26Mikmacladhaire: there might be issues but what addon doesn't?
00:59.33cladhairemy standards are reasonably high for release software.
00:59.44cladhaireYou've never seen a buggy WatchDog release have you? =)
00:59.45SyzxI don't like the 40 man list pr spits out, will that change? :o
00:59.52Mikmawith that standard wow should have never been released
00:59.54cladhaireSyzx: What do you mean?
01:00.12Syzxwell, PR shows all raid members in 1 big row
01:00.16cladhaireSyzx: You'll be able to split it into columns, etc.
01:00.18cladhaireamong other things.
01:00.24SyzxYay!
01:00.34snurremaybe add option to check/uncheck groups to show?
01:00.35Mikmacladhaire: oh one thing about perfectraid.. i really don't understand how it arranges people in the list. when someone leaves the raid and another joins, my grp1 will have 6 members then
01:00.37cladhairei have a local versino somewhere that already has two column display =)
01:00.50cladhaireMikma: it doesn't clear selects correctly right now.
01:00.55cladhaireMikma: *shrug*
01:01.07Mikmacladhaire: ok, glad clad knows
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01:02.01Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=418680&p=1&tmp=1#post418680
01:02.04Mikma:D
01:02.38Mikmalook at Rislyn's comments :D
01:03.27Syzxhttp://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=1141585&p=1&tmp=1#post1141585
01:03.33Syzxwtf :-/
01:05.10Mikmadoesn't load at all
01:05.23cladhaireSyzx: Whats your issue with it?
01:05.26cladhaireooc
01:05.59cladhaire97 rep from exalted
01:06.02cladhairethen i can code again
01:06.48Syzxissue on what? Alliance getting shamans :o
01:07.11Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=418230&p=1&tmp=1#post418230
01:07.14MikmaHAHAHA
01:07.15Mikmago slouken go
01:07.24hasteit's the easy solution of the Pve balance problem
01:07.27Mikmaomg that last comment
01:09.11hasteMikma: you are the wowzer
01:09.37Mikmahaste: thankzzzorxxzz
01:09.39Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=417198&p=1&tmp=1#post417198
01:09.42Mikma:D
01:09.44Mikmaitunes and pc
01:09.55Syzxhaste: just give paladins poison cleansing aura's. anti-fear aura's and all will be well :P
01:10.11hasteSyzx: yes, 'cause that wouldn't make horde quit
01:10.19mjc~seen ag`
01:10.29purlag` <n=Andreas@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 43m 7s ago, saying: 'I have a hard time grasping how that could only happen on party member 4'.
01:10.48Syzxwell, how would a Tier 3 equipped Alliance guild gear up green geared shamans? :-/
01:10.58Syzxgo back to MC and start all over
01:11.08Syzxsame for horde ofc.
01:11.08hasteSyzx: AQ40
01:11.14haste100% drop :)
01:11.20Syzxstill
01:11.30MikmaZG, AQ20 -> MC, AQ40
01:11.32Syzxyou're basically taking a few useless people in your raid :P
01:11.35Mikmathere's a good way to start
01:11.49hasteSyzx: but it's worth it, and you don't need those players anyway
01:11.51Mikmazg has some good stuff and doesn't require all players to be superleetepix
01:11.59Syzxah well
01:12.05Syzxany of you guys rerolling then? :P
01:12.08hastenope
01:12.11Syzxhorde paladin or alliance shaman
01:12.14hasteI quite playing
01:12.15Mikmanope
01:12.20hastequit even
01:12.30SyzxYou're not playing through the expansion? :(
01:12.46hasteno idea
01:12.56hasteI only play on my alts, haven't raided since the start of this month
01:13.15Mikmahaste: come to Eonar and play with me and my gf ;)
01:13.21Mikmait's fun since it's pve lol
01:13.25Mikma*nag nag nag*
01:13.27hastePvE >.<
01:13.33Syzxah, I was fed up with it. But Naxx gave me something fun to do. AQ40 is such a sh*thole :P
01:13.49Mikmahaste: we enjoy killing mobs instead of getting ganked in the back
01:14.06Mikmawell, now that my gf loves rogue and i like druid it would be fun to be on pvp
01:14.07SyzxI'm not getting ganked on a PvP server :o
01:14.16SyzxJust depends on where you level/grind etc.
01:14.21Mikmawe thinked long and hard that do we start on pvp or pve
01:14.42hasteSyzx: yeh, I grinded in WPL first, a L60 rogue named Hellraiser wanted to corpse camp me
01:14.42Kyahxmeh, pvp servser arent that bad anymore anyways.  Everything happens in instances now anyways =/
01:14.46Kyahxgg Battlegrounds =(
01:14.49Mikmawell i have bad experience about pvp, since i started my wow-experience in there when there was no BG :P
01:14.54hasteafter getting 200 bone scraps I left for Un'goro
01:15.02hastewhere I met HELLRAISER again :p
01:15.05Kyahxlol
01:15.21Syzxhaha, what class do you play?
01:15.22hastebut the score is like: My warlock 20 - Hellraiser 1
01:15.26KyahxI loved leveling a rogue on a PvP server, I hated leveling a priest.
01:15.28Kyahx:P
01:15.36hasteSyzx: Hellraiser = L60 rogue
01:15.42hasteMy rogue = L5
01:15.43haste50!
01:15.45SyzxI had no problems leveling a priest on a PvP server :o
01:15.49hastewas 49 yesterday
01:16.00Mikmahaste: haha :)
01:16.00KyahxI made the mistake of leveling holy/disc
01:16.09Syzxbig mistake Kyahx :P
01:16.09Mikmahaste: 20-1 rocks
01:16.12Kyahxand now I almost never leave shadowform, lol
01:16.23Kyahxpewpewpew!
01:16.29Syzxpew pew :o
01:16.39Syzxmore like bzzzzzzz facemelted
01:16.51Kyahxhehe
01:17.10Syzxdamn I'm bored. how about brining those servers back up ^^
01:17.12WobinI picked up some nice shadowdamage shoes last night in ST
01:17.20Wobin+24 to shadowdamage I think it was
01:17.30Kyahxyea, can't remember what they're called
01:17.33KyahxI used to have those
01:17.42Mikmaeventho we are on pve, my gf and i enjoy ganking pvp flagged hordies
01:18.15SyzxAs soon as you get the chance to migrate to a PvP server do so Mikma ;-)
01:18.38SyzxMy gf and I are on a PvP server
01:18.40Kyahxcome to Illidan, its terrible!
01:18.40MikmaSyzx: i already have a mage on pvp server
01:18.49Kyahxlol
01:19.12Mikmaillidrama.us? ;)
01:19.58Wobin~pinky
01:20.00purlAnd what are we going to do tomorrow night, Pinky?
01:20.10Wobin??
01:20.11Syzxhaha, Blizzard has posted about the servers being down:
01:20.13Wobin~pinky
01:20.14purlAnd what are we going to do tomorrow night, Pinky?
01:20.17Syzx"Breaking News!"
01:20.25Wobin~literal pinky
01:20.26purl"pinky" is "<reply> And what are we going to do tomorrow night, Pinky?"
01:20.32Wobin~brain
01:20.33purlit has been said that brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up
01:20.43Wobin~Pinky
01:20.44purlAnd what are we going to do tomorrow night, Pinky?
01:20.47Wobinbah
01:20.51Wobinwhat happened to NARF?
01:21.16MikmaSyzx: where?
01:21.29MikmaSyzx: ingame?
01:22.15haste~Dr. Tran
01:22.16purlYou making my teeth hurt so bad!
01:23.32Wobin~Dr. Tran
01:23.33purlCowboy hat!
01:23.45Wobin~narf
01:23.47purlnarf are you pondering what I'm pondering? ZORT!
01:23.52Wobin~zort
01:24.32Mikmathere's a typo in the blizzard's breaking news
01:24.59hasteWobin: seen Dr. Tran ;D ?
01:25.07Mikma"this requires a period of emergency maintenance while our technical team is works on resolving the matter as soon as possible."
01:25.37phyberso they take it down without yet having resolved it?
01:26.06phybertake it down to resolve without having figured out how to resolve.  \o/
01:27.24Wobin<PROTECTED>
01:27.52haste;D
01:28.28Syzxyes Mikma ingame
01:29.00gnorlishhot dickings.
01:29.46WobinJUST HANDING THEM OUT
01:30.40MikmaWobin: lol, you just had to go and comment on that post with leetspeak on ;D
01:30.42SyzxBlizzard, please call me when the servers are back online. I'm off to bed. nn
01:30.47Syzx~nn
01:30.49purlnini
01:30.57Syzx~nini
01:30.58purlLightweight, secure imap server project. URL: http://snork.capybara.org/~george/nini/
01:31.09Syzx:-/
01:31.12Syzxnight night :P
01:31.40Mikmapurl_: Server not found
01:31.49Syzxindeed
01:31.56Mikmapurl_: forget nini
01:32.07Mikmammkay, don't.
01:32.13Syzxpurl_: wish me a goodnight next time
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01:34.07Mikmahttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=22739
01:34.14WobinMikma: I couldn't resist =P
01:34.55Mikmai should by a wow us game just to post in there hah
01:35.10Wobinoh that's where it drops, is it?
01:35.27gnorlishsummon water boss in zg
01:35.34WobinThe pig polymorph is so cute =)
01:35.43Mikmayeah there's turtle, but, where to get the pig?
01:35.49WobinThat's a DM quest, isn't it?
01:35.52gnorlishpig is quest in azshara
01:35.55gnorlishvery quick
01:36.01Wobinah
01:36.01Mikmameh
01:36.05Mikmagotta do it for my mage
01:36.26CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5367 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
01:36.26CIA-11AceTab-2.0:
01:36.26CIA-11- Usage can now accept a return value of a table with entries of the form candidate = "usage text", and will print 'candidate - usage text' if a usage text exists whose key is a valid completion.
01:36.32Mikmagod damn
01:36.37Mikmai really wan't that staff from ZG
01:36.38gnorlishtinytip beat up my dad today
01:36.43gnorlishand took my lunch money
01:36.44Wobinwhich staff?
01:36.44Mikmahttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=19944
01:36.57WobinThat's such a druid staff =P
01:37.09Mikmathat's why
01:37.16Mikma<- lvl46 druid ;)
01:37.19Wobinhehe
01:37.25Wobinyou'll need a -few- more levels =P
01:37.34Mikmaonly couple
01:37.42Mikmaand a full-epix guild to go to ZG
01:37.48Mikmawith 300 fishing
01:37.53CIA-1103grennon * r5368 10GMail/GMail.lua: GMail: Redundant AutoComplete Code Removed (Default UI Does it Already)
01:38.08WobinI dunno
01:38.10Wobinit's only ZG20
01:38.11phyberGMail? :o
01:38.18WobinGrennonMail
01:38.30Mikmact_mailmod ace2
01:38.36phyberyah, just checked the toc :)
01:38.37WobinMy raid just downed Hakkar =)
01:38.43WobinAnd we're anything but epix'd up
01:38.50phyberWobin: grats :)
01:38.52MikmaWobin: cool :)
01:39.01Mikmai was today raiding after a long pause
01:39.10Mikmai played so nicely i got promoted as officer ^^
01:39.12Mikmawell
01:39.23Mikmaof COURSE i did play nicely coz i had oRA broadcasting etc etc
01:39.36Mikmawhich rocked the place
01:39.55Mikmai laughed my ass off when i saw the skull on a watched player at mandokir
01:40.10Wobinhehe
01:40.11mjcit's cute hehe
01:40.15Wobinit's great =)
01:40.21Mikmait really is great
01:40.27WobinI need to get oRA working again =(
01:40.29Mikmayou can't miss that
01:40.34hastebut doctor tran sets them straight with a god hot dicking!
01:41.12hastegood*
01:41.12hastekek
01:41.18WobinIt's kinda like the pantherboss
01:41.20Wobinwith her 'mark'
01:41.23Wobinbut noone sees that
01:41.38Mikmais the skull there?
01:41.45hasteWobin: oRA.. not working?
01:41.47Mikmai remember tekkub removing it some time ago
01:42.09Mikmaoh god how i hope the bomb in mc is marked also :D
01:42.16tekkubI removed it from arlokk, yes
01:42.27tekkubit's useless on arlokk :P
01:42.36tekkub*points at big purple arrow*
01:42.40Wobinyeah
01:42.42cladhairehehe
01:42.48Mikmathat was.. fast
01:43.00Mikmatekkub has some sort of "ring alarm when my name mentioned" on
01:43.08WobinI have that too =P
01:43.09cladhairewe all do =)
01:43.14tekkubyup, it's a nice long C# even
01:43.16Mikmai don't :D
01:43.19tekkubthe hubby hates it
01:43.32WobinTekkub
01:43.33WobinTekkub
01:43.38Wobin=)
01:43.45Mikmatekkub: tekkub
01:43.51tekkubdoesn't overlap playback, xchat not that sophisicatied
01:44.14Mikmaso, you REALLY have that feature.. ok then
01:44.56tekkubso I need something that will tag my music and rearrange files, and do it on a fucking per-album basis with minimal user input
01:45.09tekkubI'm sick of WMP's "one song at a time" bullshit
01:45.17Mikmatekkub: it's called "hubby" like you say it
01:45.22tekkuband musicbrains goes per-album but it's slow as fuck to do
01:45.36tekkubfind album
01:45.40tekkubmatch up
01:46.01tekkubfix mismatches that make no sense because track # should work 95% of the time...
01:46.05tekkubthen save...
01:46.07tekkub*wait*
01:46.21Mikmatekkub: winamp library?
01:46.28tekkuband this is why my music collection is so scattered
01:46.45tekkubwinamp's been less than useful last time I tried...
01:46.56tekkuband will it rename files/folders and move across drives?
01:46.56phyberlast time I retagged stuff, I used EasyTAG.  but that was quite a few years ago.
01:47.01Mikmawell the library is only thing i like about winamp
01:47.14Mikmanow i have to use itunes since there ain't no good players for os x
01:47.28tekkubI'm (now) using Jinzora for my "library"... I just need to get my music sorted out for it now
01:49.56Wobintekkub: QMP
01:50.11tekkubqueer media player?
01:50.15Mikmaaye
01:50.19tekkubqueer eye for the media player?
01:50.20Mikmasuits you sir, uh, suits you
01:50.21WobinQuintessence
01:50.23hyperChipmunkhttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceTab-2.0 <---this make sense?
01:50.33Wobiner Quintessential Media Player
01:50.45Wobinmake sure you get the QMP, not the other one
01:51.05tekkubit has a good, fast tagger that'll move and rename files?
01:51.10hastethere's way to many mixes of ayumis songs :<
01:51.25Mikmaor, is it BigWigs or oRA that puts the skull on the player...
01:51.26hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/images/wtf/flyhigh_mixes.png << example
01:51.31hasteMikma: BW
01:51.32tekkubBW
01:51.37phyberayumi \o/
01:51.48Mikmawell BW + raidspam rocks
01:51.59hastephyber: want to see something "funny" ?
01:52.02Mikmai was the onlyone broadcasting crap and it was cool
01:52.11Wobintekkub: I dunno, I like the way it organises everything
01:52.18phyberhaste: "sure" :)
01:52.24Wobinie, easy to find anything by anything
01:52.30Wobin(album, artist, etc)
01:52.34tekkubI don't want a player/library, I want something to tag and rearrange my files
01:52.40hastehaste@Midkemia Ayumi Hamasaki $ du -sh
01:52.40haste13.5G    .
01:52.42Wobinah, dunno then =)
01:52.58WobinhyperChipmunk: I'm not sure what that function is doing
01:52.58tekkubsomething that'll get all the damn data right and consistant so any player/library can use it
01:53.06hasteI bet 200MB of that is the original mixes :p
01:53.22tekkubmusicbrainz is the best I've seen so far... but it's still too slow of a job
01:53.24Mikma<PROTECTED>
01:53.24Mikma7.1G    .
01:53.26Mikma:(
01:53.28phyberhaste: nice :)
01:53.32hasteokey, 1.7GB is albums
01:53.42Mikmai lost my mp3 collection when my hdd died
01:53.43Kyahxhmmm, ag_unitframes dosent show how many debuffs are stacked
01:53.49tekkubI want: import, match to an album, click "do it"
01:53.56Kyahxala Shadow Vunerability x 4
01:54.02MikmaKyahx: yeah i just whined about it today, like 3h ago ;D
01:54.23Kyahxok, I wont bother whineing then
01:54.27Kyahxwas going to post :P
01:54.42MikmaKyahx: here's a paste :)
01:54.44Mikma<0132> <Mikma> ag`: oh yeah btw, would like to have numbers for debuffs...
01:54.44Mikma<0133> <Mikma> ag`: warrior needs to see how many sunders there is on mob
01:54.44Mikma<0133> <ag`> Mikma, yeah... It will come
01:55.05Mikma3h20mins ago
01:55.43Kyahxkk
01:56.47cladhairef:\Music - 36.5 GB
01:57.30Mikmathis sucks.
01:57.43Mikmai always get an inspiration "now i will code Bartender ace2"
01:57.47cladhairelol
01:57.53Mikmathen i'll come to my comp and get lazy
01:57.56cladhairei am coding tomorrow
01:57.57cladhaireno dota
01:58.02cladhaireno wow
01:58.10Mikmaor, when i look at the ace2 howto i give up
01:58.24phyberhaste: I have under 1GB of ayumi stuff.  :/
01:58.30Mikmayay servers came back!
01:58.37Mikmathe serverlist updated automatically
01:58.38phybermy favourite is Ayu-Mi-x 4
01:59.37phyber$ du -smh MP3
01:59.37phyber106G    MP3
01:59.42Mikmacladhaire: remember to close irc while you code
01:59.59cladhaireMikma: .. not a chance
02:00.06Mikma:D
02:00.13Mikmathen your codingpeace is spoiled
02:00.22Temoh god oh god
02:00.31cladhairei can't have codingpeace
02:00.31TemI just hearthed into a shitstorm in Silithus
02:00.34cladhairei need some chaos
02:00.46phyberTem: what is it? Did you fix ItemCompare?! ;)
02:00.47Temmental note: don't leave yourself flagged for pvp
02:00.53Mikmacladhaire: PR, WD, CLIQUE, FIX THEM NOW!
02:00.58Mikmathere's some chaos for ya
02:01.06cladhairewell, i ignore you
02:01.08cladhaireso..
02:01.11Mikmacool
02:01.14cladhaire=)
02:01.19Mikmacladhaire: PR, WD, CLIQUE!
02:01.24Wobincladhaire: Perhaps you need Khaos!
02:01.26Mikmalah lah
02:01.34Mikmahahaa
02:01.39phyberTem: I frequently do that.  usually after i had to enable PvP in a raid because the paladins just came out of BGs or something :/
02:01.40Mikmawobin to the rescue
02:01.55Temphyber, IC isn't going anywhere until cladhaire finishes the item parser he was writing for me
02:02.02cladhairewait what?
02:02.03Mikmawhile you at it, put sea in it too
02:02.04cladhaireyou still want that?
02:02.10Temfor us it's always this one rogue that shows up pvped
02:02.18Temcladhaire, you know how much I hate parsing
02:02.24Temof course I still want that :)
02:02.37Temesp since someone released something similar recently
02:03.12hastephyber: you have three times the MP3 I have tho' :p
02:03.17cladhaireblah
02:03.20cladhairei'll work on it.
02:03.25Temno rush man
02:03.31Temacegui2 has to happen first
02:03.32cladhairehehe
02:03.35cladhairei have a list a mile long :P
02:05.46Tupladlol
02:05.48TupladIceroth is a pimp
02:05.57Tupladwhen you ALT+Z(make the UI clean) IceHUD wont disappear :D
02:07.32hasteIt's 'cause IceHUD is anchored to the WorldFrame
02:07.50Kyahxit shows during cutscenes when you start a new charecter too :P
02:07.59haste^^
02:09.41Tuplad:O
02:09.43Tupladnerf!
02:09.47KyahxMC + Fire Mage = :(
02:09.49TupladIm off, good night
02:09.54Kyahxlater Tup
02:09.54TupladKyahx: Fire Mage = :(
02:10.04Tupladfrost > any mage :( sadly enough
02:10.10Tupladwell, except elementals then :p
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02:10.13Kebinusannah
02:10.22Kebinusan10k ignite ticks on patchwerk 4tw
02:11.13Kyahx:D
02:11.21KyahxIm 0/30/21
02:11.33KyahxCold Snap Ice Block is amazeing
02:11.39mjc0/13/38 here
02:11.55mjcI need to make a portal bot
02:13.05mjchits accept when people open trade and put 2G in, then hits 1
02:13.06mjchmm
02:16.06Kaeltenback
02:23.56kergothwtf
02:24.03kergothi cant pull up any dialogs
02:24.08kergothescape to the menu, character page, nothing
02:24.12kergoththey all get immediately closed back out
02:24.17kergothwhat the fuck addon is doing that
02:25.29hastekergoth: someone said something about a improved quest log or something doing it
02:26.00kergothhmm
02:27.11kergothgood call, eql3 was doing it indeed
02:27.12kergoththanks
02:27.35Mikmakergoth: how's the MSBT aggroalert going? ;)
02:33.35gnorlish~msbt
02:33.36purlmethinks msbt is Mikk's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html
02:35.45mjc"remember to take all things in moderation (even world of warcraft!)"
02:41.55CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5369 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
02:41.55CIA-11AceTab-2.0:
02:41.55CIA-11- Simplified 'usage' handling. See wiki for proper, er, usage.
02:50.21CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5370 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
02:50.21CIA-11AceTab-2.0:
02:50.21CIA-11- IsTabCompletionRegistered(desc) and UnregisterTabCompletion(desc) fixed
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02:59.16Kyahxwhoa, im getting huge garbace churn with ag_UnitFrames in a raid
02:59.30Kyahxgarbage*
03:17.08hyperChipmunkhoho acetab docs are complete
03:17.11hyperChipmunkI own yer soulz
03:17.38hyperChipmunkhttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceTab-2.0 read 'em and weep
03:18.01Kaeltenno I  own yer soulz hyperChipmunk
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03:18.50hyperChipmunkperhaps, but you can't make my OneBag stay put
03:19.13Kaeltenya for some reason I can't make OnMouseUp work...
03:19.14gnorlishhow's the onebag development coming along
03:19.26cladhaireKaelten: what do you want it to do?
03:19.30Kaeltenits going very well and very stable
03:19.38Kaeltencladhaire: anything, its not doing a damn thing
03:19.51cladhairehrm
03:20.00hyperChipmunkalso, please share your completions! I made a page for it: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceTab-2.0_Quickies
03:20.04KaeltenhyperChipmunk: is it just OneBank thats having issues staying put or is all of them having that issue?
03:20.13hyperChipmunkall 'em
03:20.55Kaeltencladhaire: I put print(1) in it and it didn't go off
03:21.19Kaeltencladhaire: then I just did OneBagFrame:GetScrip("OnMouseUp")() and it worked
03:21.28hyperChipmunkKaelten: I think AceTab-2.0 is ready for dissemination now
03:21.40cladhairedid you register for a click
03:21.42cladhairedo you need to
03:21.48cladhairei think you need to registerforclick(leftbuttonup)
03:22.10Kaeltenhrm let me try that
03:24.11KaeltenOnly Buttons have RegisterForClicks
03:24.37hyperChipmunkyea, that's why you can't drag-drop directly onto bulkmail's listbox; I had to make that button at the bottom
03:26.06Amadeowhere's ag`? :(
03:26.45Cairenn~seen ag
03:26.53purlag is currently on #gnu-kbsd #nslu2-linux #debianppc, last said: 'dalibor: asm volatile may help you there'.
03:26.56hyperChipmunk~seen ag`
03:26.58purlag` <n=Andreas@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 59m 36s ago, saying: 'I have a hard time grasping how that could only happen on party member 4'.
03:26.58Mikmapropably sleeping ;)
03:27.20hyperChipmunk.dk = he's sleeping yo
03:27.52hyperChipmunkWobin!
03:27.57KaeltenhyperChipmunk: actually you could do it without the button
03:28.20hyperChipmunkoh?
03:28.29Kaeltenframe:RegisterForDrag("LeftButton") and then do <OnReceiveDrag> </OnReceiveDrag> in the scripts section of the frame
03:28.39hyperChipmunkI thought I couldn't do that either
03:28.45Kaeltennope that does work
03:28.48KaeltenI just tested that
03:29.24Kaeltennot what I was looking for but it does fire the event handler off
03:29.43CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5371 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
03:29.43CIA-11AceTab-2.0:
03:29.44CIA-11-Typo; I'm a moron.
03:48.57Mikmastop blaming yourself already fucknuts :D
03:49.10Mikmatypos are part of this world
03:51.35hyperChipmunkscrwe yo
03:51.51cladhaireno screw yo
03:52.20tekkub~more dots
03:52.55Mikmapurl_: wake up
03:55.03MikmahyperChipmunk: ksis my sas
03:55.14Kebinusan~whaleslap purl_
03:55.16purlACTION beats purl_ upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
03:55.42Mikmapurl_: burn purl_
03:55.50Kebinusan~whaleparry Kebinusan
03:55.51purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Kebinusan's attacks.
03:56.07Mikmapurl has ignored me and tekkub, that's cool
03:56.23Mikmazomg i highlighted him
03:56.59tekkub~Dr. Tran
03:57.00purlI'ma not a macodoty!
03:58.18MikmaMikk: Expiration date for IgnoreMore would really rock, or just having an option to toggle the ignore either 30days and counting / infinite
03:59.43Mikmaanyways, i'm installing it now just to test it
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04:09.35Kebinusan~moredots
04:09.36purlFIFTY DKP MINUS!!
04:11.20Kebinusan~botsnack
04:11.21purlaw, gee, Kebinusan
04:11.29tekkub~fuck you
04:11.30purlI have a headache
04:11.37tekkub~horse buttholes
04:11.38purlfrom a cup!
04:11.42tekkub~hot dickings
04:11.44purlJUST GIVING EM OUT!
04:11.47Mikma~screw you
04:11.49purlno thanks
04:13.02Mikmadamn those servers
04:15.48hyperChipmunknobody is adding to http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceTab-2.0_Quickies
04:15.50hyperChipmunkeveryone sucks
04:16.04Mikmathank you :)
04:25.01Kyahx...
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04:25.42Kaeltenok apprently if you have a title region it kills the Mouse events
04:26.17hyperChipmunkdie die die!
04:26.30Industrial~stab hyperChipmunk
04:26.33purlACTION runs at hyperChipmunk with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
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04:29.26Industrialhttp://hellsblade.xs4all.nl:81/
04:29.31IndustrialThat work for anyone?
04:29.40Industrial(If it shows an error then thats a good thing)
04:40.54CIA-1103thrae * r5372 10TinyTip/ (CHANGELOG.TXT README.TXT TinyTip.lua): TinyTip - Fixed "attempt to compare number with nil"
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04:41.22AmadeoKaelten: Please make OneBag remember its location!
04:41.34CIA-1103thrae * r5373 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Oops, really fixed it
04:42.02CIA-1103joshborke 07joshborke * r5374 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (6 files):
04:42.02CIA-11HealWatch:
04:42.02CIA-11- re-organized some code
04:42.02CIA-11- added option to hide background
04:42.02CIA-11- made cast bars a little prettier
04:42.02CIA-11- made menu a little better
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04:47.01CIA-1103kaelten * r5375 10OneBag/templates.xml: OneBag - I think the frames should now stay where the hell you dragged them too. I think.
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04:47.16KaeltenhyperChipmunk: TEST IT!
04:47.27hyperChipmunkO_o
04:47.45hyperChipmunkonly if you test AceTab
04:47.59KaeltenI'll work something up with it :)
04:48.52CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5376 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
04:48.52CIA-11AceTab-2.0:
04:48.52CIA-11-Nuther typo >8P
04:49.32hyperChipmunkhttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceTab-2.0_Quickies for ideas
04:49.52CIA-1103kaelten * r5377 10OneBank/OneBank.xml: OneBank - Fixed one over site in the movement code.
04:50.01hyperChipmunkoversight
04:50.15CIA-1103kaelten * r5378 10OneBag/templates.xml: OneBag - Fixed one over site in the movement code.
04:50.20hyperChipmunkoversight!
04:50.41[Wobin]hm
04:50.54Kyahxheh
04:50.55[Wobin]is there any way I can get some default settings in the commandline svn?
04:51.01Kaeltenheh, woops
04:51.04Kyahxso I joined an MC pug
04:51.13Kyahxthinking it was the pug of alts from our server's top guild
04:51.16Kyahxit wasnt...
04:51.18Kaeltenand I broke movement in OneView so let me fix that real quick.
04:51.31Kyahx=(
04:51.43hyperChipmunkactually, for some reason, movement seems to be saving; restarting wow to be sure
04:52.10KaeltenhyperChipmunk: with the update I made?
04:52.22hyperChipmunkhaven't updated yet
04:52.49hyperChipmunkI wanted to find a specific procedure I could get it to repeat on to see if ther ewas a difference
04:52.52KaeltenI know OneBank wasn't saving right
04:56.31hyperChipmunk[00:56-4239] [string "OneBankFrame:OnShow"]:4: attempt to call method `ClearallPoints' (a nil value)
04:56.35hyperChipmunktypo
04:56.44hyperChipmunks/ClearallPoints/ClearAllPoints/
04:57.03CIA-1103kaelten * r5379 10OneBank/OneBank.xml: OneBank - Fixed type on ClearAllPoints()
04:57.30KaeltenhyperChipmunk: fixed
04:57.36hyperChipmunkyep, checking again
04:57.48hyperChipmunkon a side note, it did show up in the right spot =p
04:58.06hyperChipmunklooks good
04:58.07Kaeltenhehe
04:58.32Kaeltenya there seems to be some bugs with wow remembering placement like it does for most spots when an addon is load on demand
04:58.49hyperChipmunkya
04:58.58hyperChipmunkbulkmail didn't have any problem
04:59.12Kaeltenso I had to use the same trick I used in KC_Mobility
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04:59.35hyperChipmunkthe one where you check out AceTab and do something spiffy with it?
04:59.38hyperChipmunkI like that trick
04:59.42CIA-1103thrae * r5380 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Fixed another bug concerning RTIcon.
04:59.46Kaeltenlol
04:59.52CIA-1103thrae * r5381 10TinyTipExtras/ (TinyTipExtras.lua TinyTipIcons.lua): TinyTipExtras - Fixed another bug concerning RTIcon.
04:59.55hyperChipmunk>8p
04:59.56Kaeltenoh I have plans to use AceTab
05:00.03Thrae|Away~~sigh
05:00.08Kaeltenso think we can declare the placement bug a fix?
05:00.08hyperChipmunkI need some link feedback
05:00.15KaeltenOr rather fixed.
05:00.18Thrae|AwayWhenever I want to release something, I make a smaaaaaall change that screws everything up
05:00.23hyperChipmunkwell, it's one of those bugs that tends to show up when you least expect
05:00.25hyperChipmunkgive it a day =)
05:00.47hyperChipmunkit always gets me thinking it's fixed
05:00.49hyperChipmunkbut it isn't
05:00.51[Wobin]Is there anything else beside TinyTip and TinyTipExtras?
05:00.53gnorlishtinytip stole my lunch money
05:01.10Thrae|Away[Wobin]: TinyTipOptions is the GUI menu for TinyTip, et. all
05:01.27[Wobin]ta
05:03.35KebinusanTinyTip got me pregnant and left me in a trailerpark with three kids
05:03.35Kaeltenanyone think of any options I'm missing from OneBag?
05:03.43Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1731.new#new
05:03.46Industrialhah priceless
05:03.48[Wobin]CAn it heal my raid?
05:03.50hyperChipmunkit doesn't heal my raid
05:03.52hyperChipmunkdarn
05:03.58hyperChipmunkthat was totally my idea
05:04.03[Wobin]hehe
05:04.13Industrialit was a joke but he actually did follow my advice
05:05.20KaeltenhyperChipmunk:  Can you think of any options or features I'm missing?
05:05.20KebinusanIt would be nice if onebag/bank remembered my bag locations.. it seems every time I oppen my bank the two bags are always stacked on top of eachother at weird spots
05:05.21[Wobin]And that's how he saved Christmas!
05:06.09KebinusanLove 2kms lag spikes when clearing post Huhuran trash
05:06.19KaeltenKebinusan: [23:47] <CIA-11> kaelten * r5375 OneBag/templates.xml: OneBag - I think the frames should now stay where the hell you dragged them too. I think.
05:06.23Kaeltenand it seems to be working
05:06.27hyperChipmunkKaelten: nothing that really stikes me at the moment
05:06.45gnorlish~botsnack
05:06.45purlgnorlish: thanks
05:06.47Kebinusanoh snap, didnt see that, I'll have to try it
05:09.49Kaeltenalthough I will say this it remembers placement by profile now.
05:11.05KyahxhC: I'm getting errors constantly in battlegroups from BatFu
05:11.27Kyahxwell, fake errors it seems.   BugSack goes off, but shows no error
05:12.05ZigidiasHow about # of bag slots left?
05:13.05Kyahxn/m : still getting them again, hmmm
05:13.27KaeltenZigidias: well it shows the # used, is showing the number left something that would be in replacement or in addition?
05:13.41Zigidiasaddition
05:13.51Kyahxline 664: GloryLib: Bad argument #2 to 'NodeToPOI' (out of bounds: [1, 4] expected, got 5)
05:13.56Kaeltenwhere would it go though?
05:13.59hyperChipmunksubtraction is for smart people only
05:14.21hyperChipmunkKyahx: I didn't add those; we went over this yesterday =P
05:14.36KyahxI wasn't here yesterday when it was discussed ^.^
05:14.46Zigidiasdouble clicking the text? #/# Slots
05:15.33hyperChipmunkheh
05:15.59KyahxQuestion is, how to fix it?  :P
05:16.09KyahxBecause hearing "fatality" any time a node changes is healla-annoying
05:16.12hyperChipmunkclicking on the frame w/o dragging spams MouseUp to chat frame
05:16.21hyperChipmunkKyahx: comment the asserts at those lines ou
05:16.26hyperChipmunkthey're not real errors
05:17.16CIA-1103kaelten * r5382 10OneBank/OneBank.xml: OneBank - Cleaned up code.
05:18.45CIA-1103kaelten * r5383 10OneBag/templates.xml:
05:18.45CIA-11OneBag -
05:18.45CIA-11- Cleaned up code.
05:18.45CIA-11- Fixed the spam of Mouse Up
05:19.21ThraeChatr (whisper handler) v0.3.8 - "Added AIOI support." What the hell?! That's like saying OneBag added BattlegroundFu support!
05:21.01Kaeltenum,  what does a whisper manager have to do with a bag mod?
05:21.10ThraeExactly...
05:21.22gnorlishthe fact that you question it at all just shows how small-minded you are
05:21.28gnorlishit's obviously brilliant
05:21.38Kyahxyou can open conversations with your loot?
05:21.47CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5384 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua:
05:21.47CIA-11GloryLib:
05:21.48CIA-11-Quick-fix for AB spam
05:21.51KebinusanI was trying to figure out why chatmod added a sync channel
05:21.52Kyahxthank you hC
05:22.31hyperChipmunkduno if it works
05:22.37KyahxWe'll see
05:22.45KyahxI've got 500 rep to go to exaulted :P
05:22.47hyperChipmunkif not, I'll fix it next time =p
05:22.54hyperChipmunkit's either one or the other that's causing it
05:22.55CIA-1103kaelten * r5385 10OneView/OneView.xml: OneView - added draggins back into OneViewFrame.
05:23.01hyperChipmunkso I have 50/50 chance
05:23.46KaeltenThrae: although one thing I have seen is that the Wow_MSN mod does hook into the bag frames.
05:23.55Kaeltenand its a chatr type mod.
05:24.17Kaeltenthey did it to allow item linking.
05:24.28Kaeltenthere is a better way to do it however though
05:24.45KyahxI wish someone would make Banter =/
05:24.46hyperChipmunkther'es better ways of doing that
05:24.46hyperChipmunkyea
05:24.50KyahxWe need an ace chat mod
05:24.54ThraeAhhh
05:24.57KaeltenBanter?
05:25.05Kyahxan ace chat mod!
05:25.10Kaeltenlol
05:25.19KaeltenI thought about aceing WOW_MSN
05:25.26KyahxWas the chat type presented in Bant's UI concept
05:25.50[Wobin]Banter
05:25.52Mikk"AceAddon: AccAddon-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0"
05:26.00MikkIt's be nice if the error message said which mod is causing it
05:26.05MikkIt'd *
05:27.17MikkHmm.. EarPlug prolly
05:27.30ThraeMikk: By the way, have you tried out TinyTip + MobInfo-2 like you wanted? I think I finally got rid of all the bugs caused by MobInfo-2 hooking OnShow.
05:27.49MikkHeh, no, I haven't actually PLAYED the last couple of weeks
05:27.52IndustrialMikk: the message could be too long
05:28.21MikkThrae: I deffo will as soon as I actually start playing again though =)
05:28.21Industrialtry bugsack :)
05:28.26MikkIt's not too long
05:28.30Industrialk
05:28.35MikkThat's just 1.5 lines. 3 lines is NP
05:28.50Industrialbut all errors say what file they are in
05:28.50Industrial..
05:29.02MikkAye, but it's a message()
05:29.03Industrial(dont they?)
05:29.07ThraeYeah, damn me and my typos when I released v1.4 =/
05:29.11Industrialhm k
05:29.19MikkIt doesn't say "ERROR:" anywhere or anything like that
05:29.23MikkI pasted the full text
05:29.35MikkIt's a message generated by Ace itself
05:29.36gnorlishthrae tinytip physically assaulted me today
05:29.41gnorlishthat 1.4 version is mean
05:29.47Industrialpoke ck to add showing what addon caused it
05:29.48Industrial:D
05:30.17kergothow, damn tiger boss in zg
05:30.32Mikkhe's so much fun
05:30.47Thraegnorlish: Did you get an error, or are you just being silly? :D
05:31.49gnorlishcouple errors
05:31.53gnorlishand a bloody nose
05:32.19ThraeI -think- the latest SVN cleared out all the bad errors. And also gave TinyTip a timeout.
05:32.34gnorlishi think it needs jail time, not just a time ouut
05:34.09Kaeltenok, I think I'm going to post the new OneBag on wowi
05:35.40CIA-1103kaelten * r5386 10OneBag/ (OneBag.toc readme.txt): OneBag - Updating Revision #s
05:36.28kergothour guild has the first part of tiger down, but the second part = ow :)
05:36.42gnorlishpriest in each party for PoH
05:36.45gnorlishbacks to walls
05:36.55gnorlishkill spawns fast
05:37.13Mikkhave 2 tanks
05:37.16CIA-1103kaelten * r5387 10OneBank/ (OneBank.toc readme.txt): OneBank - Updating Revision #s
05:37.20Mikklet them build aggro for quite a while
05:37.22CIA-1103kaelten * r5388 10OneView/ (OneView.toc readme.txt): OneView - Updating Revision #s
05:37.25Mikknasty aggro reducing knockbacks
05:38.47CIA-1103kaelten 072.0.5386 * r5389 10OneBag/: Tagging for release of OneBag 2.0.5386
05:38.52CIA-1103kaelten * r5390 10/tags/OneBank/: Creating directory for tags
05:39.00CIA-1103kaelten * r5392 10/tags/OneView/: Creating directory for tags
05:39.01CIA-1103kaelten 072.0.5387 * r5391 10OneBank/: Tagging for release of OneBank 2.0.5387
05:39.03Industrialaggro is about the only statistic you want to know but dont of a mob, isnt it?
05:39.04CIA-1103kaelten 072.0.5388 * r5393 10OneView/: Tagging for release of OneView 2.0.5388
05:39.26Kaeltensorry for all the spam guys
05:39.29gnorlishlooking better thrae
05:39.32gnorlishno errors so far
05:40.09Industrialkergoth: pmpmpm :D
05:41.21[Wobin]<PROTECTED>
05:41.22[Wobin]' =)
05:41.42Kaeltenlol
05:42.10Kaeltenthose last several commits are the result of a python script I adapted from the one Ck uses
05:42.22Kyahx[Wobin]: Think you could add an option to Mr. Plow to hide the minimap button :P
05:42.37[Wobin]That's a fubar option, isn't it?
05:42.48KyahxDoes that just disable the FuBar button?
05:42.49Thrae[Wobin]: By the way, you said MrPlow could sort your Bank Bags too. You lie!
05:42.56KyahxIt can :P
05:43.00[Wobin]It can't?
05:43.01KyahxKeybindings FTW
05:43.02kergothit does just fine
05:43.05kergothi use it regularly
05:43.08Thrae"Mr Plow TheWorks" doesn't
05:43.15[Wobin]/mp theworks bank
05:43.18Kyahx:)
05:43.19kergoththere's a seperate the works for the bank..
05:43.23[Wobin]like the tooltip says =)
05:43.23ThraeAhh
05:43.36[Wobin]er not tooltip, command info
05:43.44KyahxYour right, im dumb.  Disable in the FuMenu just disabled the button...
05:43.46Kyahxheh
05:44.02KyahxI thought that disabled the whole thing =X
05:44.07ThraeHmm maybe I have an old MrPlow, but I thought I updated it recently...
05:44.35KyahxhyperChipmunk: No AB spam anymore, works great
05:44.46Thrae"Last Modified May 28" <-- ahh
05:45.09[Wobin]hm
05:45.16[Wobin]I haven't updated MrPlow for a while...
05:45.34Kyahxwhat needs adding?
05:46.48[Wobin]nothing afaik =)
05:46.51ThraeAhh, /mrplow sort and /mrplow theworks do not tell you that it can take "bank" option
05:47.00[Wobin]hm
05:47.06[Wobin]try /mp
05:47.35ThraeThat's the same thing as /mrplow
05:48.06Thrae<PROTECTED>
05:48.37ThraeThat was where I became confused, I just have a keybind to TheWorks (Inventory)
05:49.01[Wobin]ah
05:49.02[Wobin]hm
05:49.12[Wobin]I could have sworn it -used- to be in there somewhere
05:49.35mjcThrae: ping
05:49.39ThraeAhh
05:49.49mjchttp://ohdarn.net/ttip.jpg
05:50.03ThraeAt the very top "Append 'bank' to your commands while the bank window is open to apply them to your bank contents"
05:50.13[Wobin]aha =)
05:50.24ThraeI just had to scroll up in my chat window. I'm used to seeing extra arguments explained for each option.
05:51.16Thraemjc: OK nice screenshot?
05:51.26mjclook at the center of the screen
05:51.51ThraeYou mean the money thingie?
05:51.55mjcyes
05:52.08ThraeDoes that always happen?
05:52.11mjcyes
05:52.19ThraeWhen does it happen?
05:52.25mjcanytime I get a tooltip
05:52.47mjckc_items and ttip are te only installed tooltip mods
05:53.02ThraeI have KC_Items + TinyTip as well, and I'm not getting that problem.
05:53.09mjcand it does it with /kci tooltip toggle 'd off
05:53.25mjcI also get problems with separated mode
05:53.34ThraeExtra Tooltip you mean?
05:53.44mjcsometimes it shows the separate frame but not the original frame
05:53.59ThraeHmmmm.
05:54.06mjcsometimes it shows the original but no extra
05:54.13mjcand when I click on one it switches to the other
05:54.42ThraeDisable all your addons except TinyTip and see if the problem still occurs.
05:54.55mjcit
05:54.59mjcit doesn't
05:55.04mjcit's between ttip and kci
05:55.09ThraeOK, hmmm
05:55.13ThraeUpdate KCI from SVN
05:55.16mjcis
05:55.33mjcmy addons folder is a svn repo
05:56.10gnorlishyou, sir
05:56.17gnorlishlive life on the edge
05:57.02kergothgnorlish: that doesnt imply he uses svn versions of everything, persay.  my addon set is in svn for example, for tracking history, merges, etc
05:57.20ThraeAlright lemme take a closer look after this AB. mjc, follow the troubleshooting steps on the TinyTip thread, 1st mage.
05:57.30Thraes/mage/page/
05:57.46ThraeI also have the updated KC_Items and TinyTip and do not have this problem.
05:57.50mjck
05:57.50kergothhrm
06:00.40mjcThrae|BG: it is a kc_items issue
06:01.27mjchttp://ohdarn.net/ttip-2.png
06:01.46mjcwhoops
06:02.01Kyahxheh
06:02.46Kaeltenwhats a KC_Items issues?
06:02.50mjchttp://ohdarn.net/ttip-2.jpg
06:03.01mjcartg
06:03.02mjcsec
06:03.16Kaeltenerr. what am I looking for there?
06:03.42mjctry now
06:03.45mjcrefresh
06:05.07mjcKaelten: ?
06:06.15Kaeltenwhats the issue?
06:06.27mjcrefresh the image
06:06.34Kaeltenoh the little moneyframes hanging off the image
06:06.41mjcyes
06:06.42Kaeltenweird.  It'll get fixed in the next version
06:06.48mjcoff of every tooltip
06:06.55mjcon the whole system
06:07.25mjceven the tooltip for my friend lochlin ha s a floating 4g8s
06:07.34Thrae|BGIt might be a TinyTip issue, but I'm not seeing it with my UI setup
06:08.14mjcI don't even know what it's a value OF
06:08.24mjclike... noething nearthere is 90s93c
06:08.49hyperChipmunkthe value of wobin's eternal soul is worth about that
06:09.01mjcs/noet/not/ s/earth/ear th/
06:09.08[Wobin]Aw
06:09.16[Wobin]I didn't think you valued me so much hC!
06:09.22hyperChipmunk<3
06:09.27mjcI'll give you 1G for it wobin
06:09.57hyperChipmunki don't, but I have high faction with the vendor
06:10.22mjcso he gets a soul discount
06:11.59[Wobin]<PROTECTED>
06:12.58mjcKaelten: you know what the problem is, and will have it fixed by release?
06:14.12Kaeltenya the problem is the moneyframes aren't getting hidden properly,  I'll get fixed when I work on KCI2
06:14.19mjckk
06:16.03Thrae|BGKaelten: Is it TinyTip's fault?
06:23.06Icerothgod damn
06:23.10Icerothstupid world frame
06:23.45Iceroth05:05:57 < Tuplad> when you ALT+Z(make the UI clean) IceHUD wont disappear :D
06:24.32Iceroth"I would recommend anchoring the HUD to the center of WorldFrame rather than UIParent for a better default position for viewport mod users like myself."
06:30.30sedatedChipmunkgoodnight, losers whom I've always hated
06:32.51Industrialup yours
06:32.54IndustrialxD
06:34.04KaeltenThrae|BG: I don't think so :s
06:34.43Kaeltenhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4207
06:35.14CIA-1103ag * r5394 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
06:35.14CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
06:35.14CIA-11<PROTECTED>
06:35.49Amadeohey, ag is cheating
06:35.51Amadeowhere's he at?
06:42.30Kaeltenheh OneBags description has gotten a lot longer
06:44.09CIA-1103mikk * r5395 10EtchASketch/ (designs.lua widgetmethods.lua):
06:44.09CIA-11EtchASketch:
06:44.09CIA-11- Add Region:SetSize() wrapper for Height/Width
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06:58.16CIA-1103handdol * r5396 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (Noth.lua Patchwerk.lua): BigWigs(Noth,Patchwerk):Korean localization is added
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07:33.58ckknighthey all, back
07:35.45Kaeltenwb ck
07:37.38ckknighthttp://mensleadershiphawaii.com/
07:38.53Kaeltennot bad, its a little slow to load, and I can see all the edit buttons
07:39.04ckknightyea, he didn't want any safety
07:39.23ckknighthe just wanted it to be pretty open
07:39.35ckknightdon't know why the images are so slow to load
07:39.47ckknightthey only come at like 8 KiB/s even on a local network
07:40.00Kaeltenewe
07:40.22ckknightwait
07:40.29ckknightthrough local network it's 200 KiB/s
07:40.45ckknightbut when I access it through the .com, it's 8 KiB/s
07:43.32ckknightokay, it appears that the router's forwarding it causing the drop
07:43.40ckknightcause the router forwards port 80
07:43.57Kaeltenewe
07:44.07Kaeltenpay for a cheap hosting package somewhere, it'd work wonders
07:44.30ckknightnot gonna happen.
07:44.54Kaeltenno budget?
07:44.57ckknightright.
07:44.58ckknighthow would the router cause it to go slowly?
07:45.38Kaeltenhrm, not sure exactly. firewall?
07:47.32ckknighthrm, appears to be a firmware issue
07:47.42ckknightgonna upgrade and see how it goes
07:50.47Kaeltenhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4207-OneBag.html now has new screen shots
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07:52.36ckknight_okay
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07:52.43ckknight_that seems to be fixed now
07:53.09Kaeltencool
07:53.33*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
07:53.35ckknighthooray
07:53.42ckknightsee, no need for your hosting package
07:54.15ckknightit's an internal site, really
07:54.25ckknightjust for people interested in the club and in the club
07:54.33ckknightthat's why the horrid lack of security
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07:57.38Kaeltencool
07:57.47vhaarrKyahx: ping
07:57.52Kyahxwhats up
07:58.18vhaarrKyahx: I'm trying to make a ag_UnitFrames plugin for AceHeal, and it's giving me a stack overflow error
07:58.20vhaarrin OnClick
07:58.32KyahxCheck the Clique plugin to see what it does.
07:58.37Kyahxfor ag_
07:58.41vhaarrthat's what I copied
07:58.48Kyahxpastebin?
07:59.27vhaarrhttp://pastebin.ca/96900
07:59.54vhaarrstack overflow at line 19
08:00.27vhaarrI added a |DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(this:GetName())| and it spammed alot
08:00.30vhaarrfrom 1 click
08:00.42Kyahxhmmm
08:00.46vhaarrbut this is exactly how the clique plugin does it, so I don't understand
08:00.49Kyahxit should only spam once if your doing it right
08:00.51vhaarrunless the clique plugin doesn't work either
08:01.19vhaarrit spammed so many times that it gives a stack overflow
08:01.38Thrae|BGWhat's the name of the Alterac Valley-specific Field Rations? "Alterac Valley Field Ration" ?
08:04.13Kyahxvhaarr: this looks weird to me :P
08:04.17vhaarrKyahx: :
08:04.19vhaarr:(
08:04.20Kyahxheh
08:04.21Kaeltengnight guys
08:04.26Kyahxlater Kael
08:04.35vhaarrgn
08:05.01Amadeonight night
08:05.06CIA-1103thrae * r5397 10ThraeFuncs/ThraeFuncs.lua: ThraeFuncs - Thrae_UseBGRation, which will use the appropriate ration for your level if found.
08:05.27ckknightlol, vhaarr
08:05.29ckknightI see the overflow
08:05.38vhaarrI KNEW it was a "lolerror"
08:05.41vhaarrgive it to me baby
08:05.46Kyahx:)
08:05.59ckknightdo you realize what self:OnClick is calling?
08:06.03ckknightline 20
08:06.28ckknightAceHealAGUF.AGUFClick(self, ...)
08:06.31vhaarrAceHeals OnClick?
08:06.47ckknighthehe.
08:06.53ckknightTerrorists win.
08:07.04Kyahxthe bomb has been planted =(
08:07.06ckknightyour concept of self is flawed in this case.
08:07.11ckknight~threat level
08:07.17purlWe're currently at threat level: red
08:07.17vhaarrso it should be |if not AceHeal:OnClick(button, unit) then| ?
08:07.21ckknightright.
08:07.28gnorlish~panic
08:07.30purlsomebody please DO something!
08:07.30ckknightooh,red.
08:08.17ckknightand change aUF[this:GetName()]:OnClickOld(button) to self:OnClickOld(button)
08:08.34vhaarrright
08:09.10vhaarrhah
08:09.12vhaarrworks perfectly
08:09.20ckknightalso, the string.gsub thing is a hack
08:09.29ckknightdon't you save what unit you are on the object itself?
08:09.35ckknighte.g. self.unit == "player"
08:10.03vhaarrwould have to ask ag about that
08:10.17Kyahxag has alot of memory churn =/
08:10.31KyahxI was in a raid earlier and getting 30-50 kib/s
08:10.37ckknighthrm
08:10.58Kyahxdisableing ag brought me down to 6-10 (which is normal for me)
08:11.28Kyahxout-of-raid im fine thou =/
08:12.35vhaarrKyahx: should |if not AceHeal:OnClick(button, unit) then| match if AceHeal has an action configured for the combination you used when clicking?
08:12.44vhaarrKyahx: so whatever is inside the if should not happen
08:12.58KyahxAceHeal:OnClick reutrns true if an action does NOT take place
08:13.02vhaarrKyahx: or am I mistaken?
08:13.12vhaarrokay
08:13.32vhaarrso it should be |if AceHeal:OnClick(button, unit) then self:OnClickOld(button) end|
08:13.34Kyahxso | if AceHeal:OnClick(button, unit) then -- fallout code goes in here |
08:13.38vhaarrright
08:13.39Kyahxyep
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08:14.46vhaarrokay seems the plugin is working
08:14.55vhaarrKyahx: could you add it to your branch, if  you have a local copy?
08:15.05vhaarrKyahx: I noticed you fixed the 2 things I reported yesterday, thanks
08:15.11Kyahxbleh, I deleted it again =/
08:15.20vhaarrmeh
08:15.26Kyahxlol, I dont use it anymore, you should really get SVN access if your going to start playing with it :P
08:16.07vhaarraceheal > clique
08:16.28vhaarrwhy is your branch != trunk, btw?
08:16.28Kyahxmeh, I stoped useing AceHeal and my average overhaling in raids dropped 10%  :)
08:16.33vhaarrI've never used aceheal trunk
08:16.58vhaarrI don't overheal with aceheal
08:17.02vhaarrif I did I wouldn't  use it
08:17.40Kyahxwell, thats why you set multiple ranks of cast :P
08:17.44vhaarrexcept in BWL where I don't give a crap if I overheal, spamming FHr1 on all bossfights the entire fight
08:18.15Kyahxwe're still working on BWL, first serious nef attempt tomarrow
08:18.19vhaarroh
08:18.25vhaarrgood luck with that, it's a cool fight
08:18.37KyahxI've done it before :P  Just my guild who hasn't
08:18.39Kyahxhehe
08:18.49vhaarr:D
08:19.08vhaarr:(
08:19.14vhaarrnah guess it can wait
08:19.23Kyahxmaybe tomarrow :P  I'm going to sleep now
08:19.36vhaarrthanks for the help Kyahx and ckknight
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08:19.40Kyahxnp
08:20.22[Ammo]molrning
08:20.28ckknightokay
08:22.16Kyahxhmmm, would a library for a spell database be usefull?  So you wouldnt have to do a tooltip scan of the spellbook to get information?
08:22.29Kyahxor is tooltip scanning not that difficult / expensive?
08:23.49vhaarrthere are such libraries already I think
08:23.51ThianaYes it would be useful Kyahx
08:23.56ThianaNot Ace2 based.
08:24.04vhaarr"spellBook" comes to mind, but I'm not sure if it parses the spellbook or not
08:24.09vhaarrThiana: no I didn't say that
08:24.14Kyahxwell, something like babble lib that just had all the information hardcoded
08:24.27Kyahxso it just loads up a table of the spells your class / local has
08:24.42ThianaHardcoded isnt that useful. Parsing the spellbook and cacheing it would be :)
08:24.50Kyahxhmmm
08:24.56Kyahxtoo tired / unmotived
08:24.58Kyahxg'night
08:25.00Kyahx:P
08:25.50ThianaNight Kyahx
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08:34.48vhaarrThrae|WoW: I've checked the "don't show tooltips for unit frames" option, but it still shows when I mouse over the edges of MG2 and ag_UnitFrames
08:35.03vhaarrThrae|WoW: not quite sure if I should poke you or ag or sairen about it :P
08:36.41Thrae|WoWvhaarr: Hmmmm.
08:39.03vhaarrThrae|WoW: think I've had the problem for quite a while, it's not a new one
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08:39.26Thrae|WoWvhaarr: Put TinyTip as an OptionalDeps for your unit frame mod.
08:39.37Thrae|WoWIt might be hooking SetUnit.
08:40.32vhaarrokay, relogging in a sec
08:40.51Thrae|WoWvhaarr: You'll need to restart WoW for TOC changes to take effect.
08:41.04vhaarryarr, I know, thanks
08:41.16Icerothcommenting files in/out works with reloadui though
08:41.32vhaarryes but this was an addition
08:41.50Thrae|WoWIceroth: That only works if it's not an addition to the TOC, yeah
08:42.34vhaarrThrae|WoW: hm, still the same
08:43.07Thrae|WoWvhaarr: I'll check their code later.
08:43.10vhaarrThrae|WoW: the tooltip I get is actually the default WoW tooltip with 2 differences: 1. it's at the cursor, 2. it has the hp and mana bars from TinyTip
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08:43.36vhaarrThrae|WoW: and it also fades (I have tt set to 'always fade')
08:44.29CIA-1103thrae * r5398 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - If the tooltip is supposedly hidden, TinyTip will no longer do anything.
08:44.31Thrae|WoWvhaarr: That latest commit prob. won't fix your problem, but it'll fix the manabar appearing
08:44.40vhaarrand hp bar?
08:44.43vhaarrokay I'll try
08:44.53Thrae|WoWHP Bar is from the default GameTooltip, I neither hide nor show it
08:44.59vhaarrah of course
08:45.08Thrae|WoWAnd the Fading is the default game engine action
08:45.28vhaarroh, thought that was TT too
08:45.43vhaarrit works, the tooltip no longer has a manabar
08:45.44Thrae|WoWUnless the tooltip is ANCHOR_CURSOR, it will fade
08:46.15vhaarrthey are both ANCHOR_CURSOR
08:46.23vhaarrUnit and Frame
08:46.41vhaarrso it shouldn't be fading then?
08:46.55vhaarrwell it shouldn't even be there anyway
08:46.56vhaarr:P
08:50.01CIA-1103ammo * r5399 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua:
08:50.01CIA-11WitchHunt:
08:50.01CIA-11* Enlarged WH's own frame to fit more messages.
08:50.35Iceroth[Ammo], changing position/font size would rock as well
08:50.41[Ammo]pff
08:50.49[Ammo]I personally use the SCT option :p
08:50.52Iceroththe font is HUGE :o
08:50.57Icerothsct is confusing
08:51.06[Ammo]it's GameFontNormalLarge
08:51.06Icerothas i have only the stuff i gain on sct
08:51.36Iceroth"oh, heal - no wait, damnit, wasn't cast on me but on my target" etc :)
08:52.07Icerothor at least add an option to flag it as "message" for sct
08:52.35[Ammo]I could do that
08:59.35CIA-1103ammo * r5400 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua:
08:59.35CIA-11WitchHunt:
08:59.35CIA-11* Now has an option to send it to SCT as a 'message' making it stick etc..
09:00.25[Ammo]hehe
09:22.17Grumpeymorning
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09:48.13CIA-1103ammo 07Ace2 * r5401 10BigWigs/ (AQ40/Twins.lua Bars.lua):
09:48.13CIA-11BigWigs (Ace2 Branch):
09:48.13CIA-11* Menusettings removed from Bars.lua, they should be generated from the command options eventually.
09:48.13CIA-11* Converted Twin Emperors module
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10:00.10CIA-1103ammo * r5402 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua:
10:00.10CIA-11CandyBar:
10:00.10CIA-11* Bugfix in IsRegistered
10:00.10CIA-11* Bugfix in SetHeight
10:00.10CIA-11* Added missing SetText
10:02.16Kebinusanno stances are a shapeshift form like druid cat or bear
10:02.23Kebinusanbleh wrogn channel
10:05.51kergothwoot, quickcompare is nice.  like equipcompare but seemingly lighter, and also adds tooltips on mousing over itemlinks in chat
10:09.13vhaarrequipcompare is huge
10:09.30vhaarralways wanted to slim it down
10:09.38kergothwarmup said quickcompare was -4K.  i somehow doubt thats the case, but its nonetheless teeny :)
10:32.14Industrial:o
10:42.51CIA-1103ammo * r5403 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua:
10:42.51CIA-11CandyBar:
10:42.51CIA-11* Bugfix in SetWidth
10:47.23NeronixSo nobody had a look at the RFC I posted in the dev corner?
10:49.59[Ammo]what rfc?
10:50.36Neronixhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1735.0.html
10:51.33[Ammo]ther's an extra " in the link btw
10:52.56Neronixfixed, thanks
10:53.11[Ammo]other than that I don't see the need for all those utils, but others might :)
10:54.52NeronixYeah, I don't think the maths module would be used much because I don't think many mods would be handling statistics
10:55.12Neronixexcept KCI, which is were Kael said I could borrow methods from :P
10:55.16[Ammo]I'm missing Time
10:55.47[Ammo]for instance for CandyBars I format a time based on some microtime etc
10:56.02[Ammo]if I had several options for that easily from a util that would be good
10:56.17NeronixI'll look into that
10:56.33[Ammo]don't know if I'll use it though, but might be a good optional dep
11:00.49FtH|Eaglehi, can anyone help me with the aceoption data table?
11:02.06[Ammo]sure
11:02.10[Ammo]what's your problem
11:02.23FtH|Eaglei am currently rewriting my xrs command structure into the new one
11:02.49FtH|Eagleand my old one looks a little messy, but it worked: /xrs new name=Test c=Shaman Druid Priest w=mana pos=4
11:03.03FtH|Eagleand now I wonder how I could change it to be compatible with the new structure
11:03.26FtH|Eagleor is the only way to create a graphical window?
11:03.35[Ammo]I suggest changing to something like this:
11:03.41[Ammo]<PROTECTED>
11:03.52[Ammo]<PROTECTED>
11:04.04[Ammo]<PROTECTED>
11:04.11[Ammo]or something similar
11:04.18[Ammo]bit more typing to set it up
11:05.15FtH|Eagleok thanks, will try that
11:05.29[Ammo]or...
11:05.34[Ammo]you could use the text input
11:05.40[Ammo]and create a command new
11:05.43Thrae|WoWChatr is excellent, but it needs to be optimized or at least Ace2'd.
11:05.47[Ammo]and just use your old stuf :)
11:05.57[Ammo]and parse the 1 argument given to new
11:06.27FtH|Eagleah, this would be nice
11:06.35[Ammo]that would be ugly imho
11:06.38[Ammo]but that's just me :)
11:06.57[Ammo]oh and it's easier to create a nice dewdrop from my first suggestion ;)
11:07.11FtH|Eagleyeah it is, but I could change that in the future and go this way for now
11:07.15[Ammo]and almost automatically too when dew2 gets done I think
11:08.02KebinusanId like to be able to have alive/dead counts by class
11:09.03FtH|Eaglethat's something I will implement if the first version is set up and works
11:09.13FtH|Eaglefor now I'll create a static bar like before
11:09.34KebinusanCould you easily make it gui, type bar name, select what you want to monitor, select classes or something
11:09.46Kebinusanfor the configuration of new bars
11:09.55Kebinusanmight be a bit easier for some folk to figure out that way
11:10.08FtH|Eaglemy idea is to create a dewdrop if you rightclick a bar
11:10.29KebinusanThat sounds pretty good
11:10.52FtH|EagleI've started yesterday, so it might take some days since I will release the first version ;)
11:20.53FtH|EagleIs there a good tutorial beside the api from dewdrop?
11:25.12Kebinusanyou could look at something like the tinytip options its all done in dewdrop I believe
11:25.31CIA-1103ammo 07Ace2 * r5404 10BigWigs/AQ40/ (7 files):
11:25.31CIA-11BigWigs (Ace2):
11:25.31CIA-11* Cleaned up translations
11:25.36Thrae|AwayAll done in Dewdrop indeed.
11:29.30CIA-1103ammo * r5405 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:
11:29.30CIA-11BigWigs (C'Thun):
11:29.30CIA-11* Hopefully fixed the Giant Eye spawn after a weakened.
11:32.41CIA-1103mikk * r5406 10EtchASketch/ (7 files):
11:32.41CIA-11EtchASketch:
11:32.41CIA-11- Add "Region:SetTexCoordModifiesRect" method
11:32.41CIA-11- Editboxes will now show tooltips if the string is too long to be displayed
11:32.41CIA-11- Extend dropdown menu to max 5 levels. Add tooltip capability.
11:32.41CIA-11- "New Method" dropdown finished with tooltips and variants and everything
11:33.12CIA-1103ammo 07Ace2 * r5407 10BigWigs/BWL/ (Nefarian.lua Vaelastrasz.lua):
11:33.12CIA-11BigWigs (ace2):
11:33.12CIA-11* Cleaned up some BWL translations
11:33.33Thrae|AwayWhat does EtchASketch do?
11:33.40MikkMy in-game UI editor
11:33.59Mikk(not currently usable, but toyable-with)
11:34.05Thrae|AwayUI Editor? You mean like Visor?
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11:34.14MikkNo, like replacing XML
11:34.23MikkAnd WoWUIEdit
11:34.36MikkWoWUIDesigner even
11:35.13Thrae|AwayAhhh. So how does it work? Does it write out its own file to the addon's directory (not sure if you can do that anymore), or does it save everything in a SVDatabase?
11:35.42vhaarrfrom what I understand it just saves it to SavedVars and then you need EtchASketch to load the UI for you
11:35.51vhaarrso your addon will depend on it
11:36.12Mikkno
11:36.26vhaarrit outputs proper XML to SV?
11:36.28MikkWhile working, it saves a table to SVs (its own or the addon's doesn't matter)
11:36.39MikkWhen you're done, you just copy&paste that table into your addon
11:36.43MikkAlong with a 100 line stub
11:36.51MikkExceute stub = your UI is up and running
11:37.10vhaarraha
11:37.11NeronixSounds sexcellent
11:37.30MikkIt has some pretty nifty side effects
11:37.39MikkLike being able to loop constructs (think lines in list views and stuff)
11:37.46MikkAnd referencing the previous object created (for setpoint et al)
11:37.52MikkOr previous object of a given type
11:38.16MikkOh, and automagically binding scripts based on the existance of e.g. MyFrame_OnUpdate, MyFrame_OnEvent et al =)
11:38.57MikkThe generator stub is actually fully usable right now. For anyone that's been using CreateFrame and the Widget API it shouldn't be very hard
11:39.03MikkEtchASketch's own UI is built with it
11:39.37Thrae|AwayCool beans. Maybe it'll replace AceGUI2.
11:39.46Mikkpoke around in EtchASketch/designs.lua and you'll see example designs along with the generator stub at the bottom
11:40.11MikkThrae|Away: it doesn't really help with creating stuff dynamically runtime though
11:40.27MikkUnless you want to dynamically create etchasketch tables and call the stub
11:40.30MikkWhich works i suppose
11:40.37MikkJust seems a bit pointless =)
11:40.44Thrae|AwayAhh.
11:40.56MikkThen again, that's basically what AceGUI2 is doing isn't it?
11:41.32Thrae|AwayYeah, AceGUI2 is suppose to create everything dynamically and give an easy interface to the Widget API.
11:42.32MikkThough I suppose there's some things that AceGUI does that the Widget API doesn't?
11:42.37MikkVariable bindings and stuff perhaps?
11:42.55MikkI can certainly see how it might be worthwhile to get these two things to play nicely together
11:43.03MikkOr perhaps all-out integrate the ideas
11:43.07Thrae|AwayAceGUI mostly gives a lot of templates to work with, and has a non-sucky UIDropDownMenu.
11:43.28TupladI think there was a bug lol, but when I was given 2 transfer to public test server - I transferred 2 chars, but I got only 1 of them, but I still wanted the UD Warrior, so I went to transfer char to sever thingie, and well oh well, 2 more chars to transfer :D :D :D
11:43.31Thrae|AwayIt gives a different perspective on how to utilize the Widget API.
11:43.48MikkHeh. Whaddayaknow. I implemented a dropdown of my own too =P
11:43.56Mikk(DAMN the built-in one blows)
11:44.23Thrae|AwayYeah, there are three non-sucky Dropdowns -- yours, ckknight's Dewdrop, and AceGUI
11:44.53MikkTemplates.. hmmmm
11:45.07MikkI've been thinking on how to implement nice and easy-to-use templates in EAS
11:45.33MikkStandard edit boxes.. Standard buttons.. Standard sliders...
11:45.44MikkCouple of dialog/pane templates
11:45.58MikkPerhaps some with extra code
11:46.10Thrae|AwayRight, there's a lot of bloat that can come about doing either XML or CreateFrame.
11:46.42Thrae|AwayLots of people just use standard settings, but inheriting can be a pain, especially if you don't need the globals.
11:47.11MikkAnything in particular you're thinking about now?
11:47.41Thrae|AwayYou should probably speak to Tem or PM him on Wowace, he's in charge of AceGUI2.
11:48.46Thrae|AwayI myself was working on GooeyFigs until I found out Dewdrop was "sufficient", and implementing dropdowns myself becoming too big of a pain.
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11:49.47Thrae|AwayOne of the main ideas with GooeyFigs is that you added objects by columns, and the elements would automatically position themselves and the main frame would automatically resize.
11:50.07MikkVery specialized
11:50.25MikkThough sufficient for 90% of addon GUIs I suppose =)
11:50.35Thrae|AwayExactly ;)
11:50.54MikkAnyway... do me a favor? Download EAS and tell me how to best implement a shortcut for TYPING method names rather than selecting them from menu
11:51.09Mikk(Not in code.. just your take on how to do it in the UI)
11:51.36MikkI've got this nice an n00b-friendly menu for selecting methods now but I have a feeling it's going to drive me nuts personally
11:52.18MikkGranted, I'll be adding the most commonly used methods for each widget type by default when they're created, but still.....
11:56.11Thrae|AwayMikk: What editor are you using to create a prj file?
11:56.18Mikkultraedit
11:56.24Mikkdid i check that in? oops.
11:56.30Thrae|AwayHeh, yep
11:57.19Thrae|AwayDoes UltraEdit have good find-and-replace features? I've been using gvim for its awesome regexp.
11:57.48Mikkit's got regexp replace but it's not exactly pcre cool
11:58.21Thrae|AwayEtchASketch\designs.lua:812:attempt to call global 'gfind' (a nil value)
11:58.32CIA-1103mikk * r5408 10EtchASketch/EtchASketch.prj: Removed EtchASketch.prj. Whoops =)
11:58.44Thrae|AwayHmmm, I don't think gfind is declared by Blizzard.
11:58.53MikkWtf do I have installed that declares it then o.O
11:58.54[Ammo]probably forgot: string.gfind
11:58.57Mikkyeah
11:58.58[Ammo]isnstead of gfind :)
12:00.11CIA-1103mikk * r5409 10EtchASketch/designs.lua:
12:00.11CIA-11EtchASketch/designs.lua:
12:00.11CIA-11- "gfind" -> "string.gfind"... Wonder what AddOn I have installed that's defining it for me.. Ohwell.
12:00.18TupladWhere did oUF2 go ? Cant find it on the SVN.
12:03.01MikkThrae|Away: Can you tell how I've had a severe coder's block? I've copied half the bloody wiki into the addon it feels like :-P
12:03.38Thrae|AwayHaha yeah I see
12:04.00Thrae|AwayMaybe it's the sleep deprivation, but...how does this work?
12:04.25MikkIt doesn't actually add something atm
12:04.29MikkClick an object
12:04.36MikkRight click in the method list
12:04.44MikkFollow menu etc
12:04.45Thrae|AwayAhhh, no wonder when I added something it kept giving me an error
12:04.50Tupladhaste: u there ?
12:06.29MikkJust think "windows" rather than "wow" and it should be easier =)
12:07.07Thrae|AwayOK, so your original question was, what's a good slash command shortcut design?
12:07.08Mikknah
12:07.28Mikkwhat a good UI manouver to give me an editbox somewhere somehow where i can just type a method name?
12:07.57Mikkbeen considering having a dummy entry below the existing methods that you can click and just get an edit box
12:08.10Mikkbut that of course means you can only add at the bottom =P
12:08.21Thrae|AwayAhh, gotcha.
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12:09.44Thrae|AwayHow about just adding a field to all dropdowns called "Custom" where it pops up an editbox so you can enter in your own method and arguments.
12:10.35MikkNew Above -> Custom?
12:10.41Mikk(and New Below -> Custom)
12:10.55Thrae|AwayRight, put it at the bottom, then use RunScript on it.
12:11.26MikkOh, THAT custom even
12:11.34MikkYeah that could be useful I suppose
12:12.05MikkBut for that you really want a bigger  edit box where you can type a couple of lines
12:12.12MikkAdding custom lines one by one makes little sense to me
12:12.20FtH|EagleIs there a way to use a function in the 'checked' attributed at dewdrop? Or do I have to define a boolean value before and use it then?
12:12.39Thrae|AwayFtH|Eagle: Yes, check the documentation.
12:12.48FtH|Eaglehave, didn't find it, sry :/
12:13.01MikkI was more thinking along the lines of just being able to type in an existing method name which I can parse and add as a regular entry
12:13.12MikkAlong with parameters that I also parse
12:13.28MikkExcept it seems a bit slow to keep having to walk through the dropdown to add more
12:13.38MikkThen again, just as I'm saying it, it hits me...ö
12:14.00MikkThe dialog would of course have an "Add" and "Close" button, not just "OK" and "Cancel" =P
12:14.04Thrae|AwayWhy not add a Copy feature, that copies an existing field
12:14.14MikkThat's definitely going in there
12:14.25MikkFull cut, copy and paste on everything
12:14.27MikkIncluding objects
12:14.43Thrae|AwayWhen you say an existing method, you mean one that's already being used with that object, rigt?
12:14.55MikkNo, one that's available through the menus
12:15.04Thrae|AwayAhh, hmm.
12:15.05MikkOne that I know how to parse
12:15.24MikkIt doesn't know about the entire Widget API
12:15.32MikkOnly methods I've deemed useful during object creation
12:15.40MikkI.e. it doesn't know a single Get... or Is... call
12:17.45MikkNah, this'll work. As long as you can add several new methods without having to click your way through the menu
12:17.53MikkAnd your ideas with custom scripts was kinda spiffy too
12:18.13MikkNot ultra high prio though I don't think, since it'll call _OnLoad functions if they exist when the object is created
12:18.48Thrae|AwayWell, you could use the Custom script idea and if only a method name is given, it'll just put in default values.
12:19.23Mikk...
12:19.24Mikkdoh =)
12:19.39Thrae|AwaySince from your specifics, I don't see anything but New Above -> (Open Edit Box), etc. working
12:19.40MikkOr if I only type in known functions, it converts them to regular lines
12:19.47Thrae|AwayRight
12:20.19MikkYeah I was just bashing my head against the wall with how to make it easily repeatable
12:20.30MikkMultiline editbox just didn't occur to me :-P
12:20.31MikkThanks ! =)
12:20.38Thrae|AwayAnother thing you might want to do is instead of doing Above/Below -> Object Type -> Method, you do Object Type -> Method -> Above/Below
12:21.10Thrae|AwayStarting with a larger tree just looks cleaner to me.
12:21.17MikkEven if i'll be adding lots more options to the base menu?
12:21.31Mikkcut,copy,paste,changing the variant used....
12:21.43Mikkok i can only think of 4
12:22.06Thrae|AwayHmm, I guess it depends on how many Objects you want to add.
12:22.07TupladoUF2 is not on SVN :\
12:22.48hasteyse it is
12:22.55Thrae|AwayIn fact, you could get rid of New Above / New Below altogether and add a "Up / Down" option.
12:23.12hasteTuplad: and yes, I'm here now
12:23.25NeronixTuplad: In branches
12:23.38MikkThrae|Away: I hate up/down toggling
12:23.38Thrae|AwayThe base menu could be Object Types (New Line) Entry Up Entry Down (Other Options)
12:23.51MikkCut&Paste does the job
12:23.54MikkSomething hits me though
12:24.01TupladNeronix: only 3 files
12:24.03MikkIf I always keep a dummy at the bottom, I can always use "Insert"
12:24.08Mikk"New Above"
12:24.10Tupladhaste: gief oUF2 :(
12:24.24Thrae|AwayYou could also allow the line to be "dragged" upwards with a mouseclick
12:24.30Thrae|Awayupwards / downwards
12:24.41Thrae|AwayThat would be the best positioning option
12:24.52hasteTuplad: branch/otravi_UnitFrames/otravi
12:25.16Thrae|AwayYeah, you do that too.
12:25.51Tuplado_O
12:25.58Tupladoh
12:26.04Thrae|AwayMikk: By the way, just your default look you have so far is very, very sexy.
12:26.08Tupladhaste: now it's there, but it wasnt a minute ago oO
12:26.11MikkThat way I could have "Insert" and "Insert Custom" in the top level menu
12:26.14MikkThrae|Away: hehe thanks =P
12:26.29hasteTuplad: You fail.
12:26.35Thrae|AwayIt reminds me of that "Dream Mockup" that was on the Wowace forums. Did you ever see that?
12:26.39MikkNope
12:27.01MikkI was aiming at something kinda-windowsy that wouldn't collide too bad with the rest of the interface
12:27.09MikkBut still stand out enough that you don't confuse it with stuff that you're editing
12:28.01Thrae|AwayMikk: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1603.0.html, 2nd post
12:28.05CIA-1103neronix 07Neronix * r5410 10AceUtils/Maths-2.0/AceUtils-Maths-2.0.lua: AceUtils - Maths: Fixed line 451 typo
12:28.20MikkThere's shooting offenses for checking comments like that, Neronix =P
12:28.27Thrae|AwayIf WoW's default UI looked like that, I think they could easily add more players. It's just too sexy.
12:30.49hasteThrae|Away: it doesn't have a actionbar :----(
12:30.54Thrae|AwayYou need to register just to view the forums? I don't think that was the case with the old forums.
12:31.29Thrae|Awayhaste: I guess the maker was counting on just no backdrop textures for his action bars.
12:32.04Thrae|AwayI don't know what else you need added to your action bars other then positioning, scaling, and removing the backdrop texture.
12:32.19TupladThrae|AwayMikk: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1603.0.html, 2nd post
12:32.22Tupladthats sexy o_O
12:32.29hasteThrae|Away: he needs to register to watch the image
12:32.39Tupladbut yea, where are the action bars ? :D
12:32.48Thrae|Awayhaste: ahh
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12:34.55Thrae|AwayWe should post this mockup on WoWI.
12:35.11MikkThrae|Away: You need registration to view attachments
12:35.23Thrae|AwayMikk: Yeah so haste told me ;)
12:37.46Neronixhaste: WTB ability to move buffs/debuffs to the bottom of each frame
12:38.20hasteNeronix: WTB less mods to work on
12:38.39MikkCan someone just upload that image to the wowace wiki or something? =P
12:38.45Thrae|AwayMikk: http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sexyuijq0.jpg
12:38.50Thrae|AwayOne step ahead of ya.
12:39.32Thrae|AwayBant, the maker of that Dream Mockup, said he's willing to provide the textures for it, but he knows nothing about coding.
12:40.50FtH|EagleI have an error with the tooltip in dewdrop, it's in the wront place and without a text, maybe a problem with tipbuddy? anyone knows about it?
12:42.05MikkThrae|Away: Heh, that's like 2 textures needed total
12:42.11Mikkok 3
12:42.24Thrae|AwayThe glow effects would need their own textures, right?
12:42.37Thrae|AwayFtH|Eagle: Are you using TipBuddy or TinyTip?
12:42.42FtH|Eagletipbuddy
12:42.53Thrae|AwayTry disabling TipBuddy.
12:43.19hasteTipBuddy doesn't support CreateFrame's
12:43.37hasteI told someone on wowace how to fix the problem on oUF2, and that he should notice the author
12:43.44hastedon't know if he did it or not tho'
12:43.49Thrae|AwayI use Dewdrop for TinyTip's options, so I know it works there.
12:43.51MikkYeah the glow effect would need to be a simplistic fuzzy thing that you just draw on top of the existing one with the right VertexColor and blendmode set to "ADD"
12:44.07hasteThrae|Away: the author sets the parent with frame:GetName()
12:44.16hastejust frame would work fine, and it would work on everything
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12:44.45FtH|Eaglek, it's definitely the source of the problem, will try tinytip then
12:45.04MikkAll the frames would be drawn in grayscale, just apply different VertexColors to them
12:45.43MikkThere's also some shady things in the MT display but that's just a solid texture with a gradient
12:46.07MikkWhat worries me most is the font
12:46.23MikkAnd the shading around it
12:47.08Thrae|AwayYou know, how that I look at it, only the buddy list and combat log is really missing from already being implemented.
12:47.12Thrae|Aways/how/now/
12:47.37hasteAnyone know if it's possible to fetch the information of all 32 buffs a player can have?
12:47.53Mikkof course it is
12:47.55Mikkjust loop them
12:48.05Thrae|AwayYep
12:48.05hasteNever know if there is a limitation
12:48.15hastebut I believe I had it on the early version of oUF
12:48.32Thrae|AwayIf the index for UnitBuff(unit,index) isn't valid, it'll just return nil.
12:48.50Mikki suppose you could draw the same fontstring like 3 times
12:49.01Mikkonce in white, twice in blackish with alpha set
12:49.05Mikkwon't look the same though
12:49.24Mikkyou'd need like 9 fontstrings to make it look even remotely the same
12:49.35Mikkand that'd be a severe fps killer i think
12:49.47Thrae|AwayAh, I didn't even notice the special font.
12:49.56MikkIt's half of what's making it look good tbh
12:50.09MikkThe font itself plus the outline
12:50.12Thrae|AwayI think ClearFont and its derivitives look good enough for me.
12:50.39MikkExcept I don't think kirkburn will be distributing that font much longer
12:50.42MikkIt's a windows font
12:50.51Thrae|AwayI just thought it was sexy by the way the information was organized.
12:50.52MikkAnd some loonie told MS on him
12:51.04Thrae|AwayDoesn't WoW use a MS font?
12:51.38MikkWell, not the one that kirkburn had ripped out of the new unreleased windows version, that's for sure =P
12:51.46Mikks/windows/office/
12:51.46Thrae|AwayHaha
12:52.14Thrae|AwayThere's a font replacement for ClearFont that looks just as sexy, and I think that one is freeware.
12:52.16hasteMikk: Wasn't the case only that someone said he used the Calibri font, and owners of the interface sites started to complain?
12:52.37MikkSaid nutter also went to MS
12:52.44MikkAnd started threatening Cairenn with legal action
12:52.49MikkThat didn't go down well
12:53.32hasteHopefully it changes to Bitstream or some hot font ;)
12:53.50MikkIt's damn hard to find free good-looking fonts though =(
12:54.00MikkIt's easy to find "fun" fonts
12:54.01NeronixI tried bitstream vera sans and it looked messy :(
12:54.03Thrae|AwayI think Bitstream is one of the ClearFont font replacements.
12:54.04MikkBut good-looking? Ergh
12:54.06hasteBitstream, it's like Georgia, only better
12:54.12NeronixI went back to calibri
12:54.13Neronixfuck MS
12:54.36MikkAye, it's not like they're going to go after single people copying the font and using it at hom
12:55.05hasteMikk: actually, a long time ago - when it was leaked... they shut down web pages
12:55.23Mikki know
12:55.24Neronix"ONOES, someone is using our font to make a game look better! This means we did the job RIGHT! What? sue him? pfft, no"
12:55.46Neronixwhy can't people think like that? -_-
12:55.55MikkHehe
12:55.56hasteI do :<
12:56.02MikkYou should look at the license for the font
12:56.08MikkYou're not even allowed to use it if Office isn't running
12:56.30Mikk- RUNNING!
12:56.33MikkNot just installed
12:56.34NeronixO.o
12:57.00hasteWell, the office license is also strange
12:57.14hasteyou are allowed have to a copy of it at work and at home, but not if they both are running
12:57.18MikkJust a matter of time before MS starts charging us for pages printed
12:57.40MikkPerhaps extra if it was set in Calibri
12:57.53NeronixOr charging us by the minute
12:57.54Mikkpurl: bugger BillGates
12:57.57purlACTION grabs hold of the Eiffel tower, dips it in Tabasco and fresh metal shavings, and asks BillGates to please bend over.
12:58.07Neronix~steveballmer Bill Gates
12:58.08purlACTION throws a chair at Bill Gates
12:58.19Mikknice verb =P
12:58.24Thrae|AwayOn a different subject, I think I'm about done with adding features into TinyTipExtras and the core TinyTip. I believe I've now got all the features of the original TipBuddy and more.
12:58.35Thrae|AwayNow I just need to FIX the features >.<
12:58.50MikkJoy =P
12:59.08Thrae|AwayDamn Extra Tooltip and damn GameTooltip object weirdness.
13:00.17NeronixComing soon (today?) from Neronix's single brain cell: NanoPerfsFu and NavigatorFu
13:01.02Thrae|AwayNeronix: Did you take a look at that sexy UI?
13:01.32Soltaniswhich sexy ui is that?
13:01.38NeronixThe dream mockup?
13:01.51Thrae|AwayNeronix: I think that Combat Log mockup looks nice.
13:02.08Thrae|AwaySoltanis: http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sexyuijq0.jpg
13:02.13NeronixAre you Amadeo in disguise? O.o
13:02.21Thrae|AwayHaha.
13:02.52Thrae|AwayMaybe I'll just implement it myself. Give me an excuse to learn about frames I haven't used yet.
13:04.06Soltanisit's a bit "big" for me
13:04.19Thrae|AwayThe damage thingie in the bottom-left ?
13:09.11CIA-1103thrae * r5411 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTipAnchor.lua): TinyTip - You can now choose to apply TinyTip's custom anchoring to custom tooltips (which use SetDefaultAnchor).
13:09.24CIA-1103thrae * r5412 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipChatLocale_enEN.lua TinyTipOptions.lua): TinyTipOptions - Updated for new option in TinyTip.
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13:11.52NeronixClockFu is 11kb of stuff I don't actually need :P
13:12.12NeronixENCFu = self:SetText(date("%X"))
13:12.13Neronix^^
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13:13.09cladhairemorning.
13:13.13Neronix~mornings
13:13.16purlMornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/)
13:18.56Tupladhttp://www.destroymornings.com/solution.php is it meant to be like that ?
13:19.02Tupladno solution found :p
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13:23.08ag`~roulette
13:23.09purlACTION watches ag` pull the trigger:  Click!
13:24.01Tuplado_O
13:24.05Tupladdoes it ever go "Boom!" ?
13:25.18Thrae|Away~roulette
13:25.20purlACTION watches thrae|away pull the trigger:  Click!
13:25.37Thrae|Away~roulette
13:25.38purlACTION watches thrae|away pull the trigger:  Click!
13:25.40hasteTuplad: it does
13:25.59Thrae|Away~roulette
13:26.00purlACTION watches thrae|away pull the trigger:  BANG!
13:26.31hasteso who will maintain Tinytip now?
13:26.32Tuplad:O
13:27.05TupladI will :]
13:28.02Tupladhttp://beta.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=15281627&sid=1 - this is silly
13:29.17ag`if I update tt to the newest svn, will it explode?
13:29.36Tuplad~roulette
13:29.38purlACTION watches tuplad pull the trigger:  Click!
13:29.46Tupladpurl you suck
13:29.47purlno, *you* suck!
13:30.08Thrae|Awayag`: Newest SVN = bug fixes + 1 new feature
13:30.12Thrae|AwayThat shouldn't make it explode.
13:30.19ag`sounds great, will do :-)
13:31.05Mikma*boom*
13:34.05hasteThe one new feature will eat your party!
13:35.59Mikmazomg
13:38.55CIA-1103thrae * r5413 10ThraeFuncs/ThraeDruid.lua: ThraeFuncs - Thrae_DruidCC will now include the level of the unit it's targeting.
13:47.56CIA-1103thrae * r5414 10ThraeFuncs/ (ThraeDruid.lua ThraeFuncs.lua): ThraeFuncs - Added Thrae_Helpme function, which will shout out if your target is targeting you. Additionally, doubled spam wait for Thrae_Druid functions.
13:47.56CIA-1103cladhaire 07Unstable * r5415 10Clique/Clique/: Clique: Branching for unstable development
13:48.26Neronix~roulette
13:48.32purlACTION watches neronix pull the trigger:  Click!
13:49.15Thrae|AwayIs there a working mod which can do actions based on combat log damage events?
13:49.31Thrae|AwayI'd like an automatic "Under attack!" message.
13:49.47Thrae|AwayBecause sometimes my tanks don't pay close enough attention.
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13:50.53Mikmahi wobbly
13:51.07Wobin'lo Miklemas
13:53.39snurreTinyTipIcons.lua:90: attempt to call global `txSetTextCoord' (a nil value)   ---TinyTipAnchor.lua:147: GameTooltip:SetPoint(): Unknown region point   ---[15:53-38] ...ce\ag_UnitFrames\libs\Dewdrop\Dewdrop-2.0.lua:1386: attempt to call field `editBoxFunc' (a boolean value)   ---
13:54.49vhaarrThrae|Away: SCT's +Combat?
13:55.32MikmaWitchHunt needs support for MSBT
13:55.47Thrae|AwayMikma: WitchHunt already has support for MSBT
13:55.51Wobiner doesn't it?
13:56.11Mikmaoh? i saw a post that it has support for SCT
13:56.16Mikmadidn't see anything about MSBT
13:56.33Wobinkergoth added something
13:56.41WobinI think
13:56.59Mikmaaye it's in i see
13:57.12Mikma./witchhunt display Mik's Scrolling Battle Text
13:57.25Mikmathat's supercool
13:58.06CIA-1103thrae * r5417 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipIcons.lua: TinyTip - Fixed typo with RTIcon.
13:58.26Mikmathat should be changed to /witchhunt display MSBT
13:58.50hastehe couldn't have used MSBT :p
13:59.07Mikmahow come
13:59.57Thrae|Awaysnurre: Reset your options to fix the SetPoint bug.
14:00.21Thrae|Awaysnurre: As for the Dewdrop error, disable ag_UnitFrames and see if it goes away.
14:00.31snurrebut..but.. :(
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14:02.51Mikmaho wobster
14:02.59Mikmawhops, hi..
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14:07.37Wobblehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faB1ZdcsWa8
14:07.46WobbleBilly Maclure, has got some trouble...
14:07.58snurrereset all options for ttip
14:07.58snurreTinyTipAnchor.lua:147: GameTooltip:SetPoint(): Unknown region point   ---
14:09.12Thrae|Awaygmmmm
14:09.23snurreanchoring with extras enabled is very broken
14:10.19vhaarrThrae|Away: oh god this tooltip is annoying when I use clickcasting on raidframes
14:10.40Thrae|Awaysnurre: Are you using CURSOR for Extra Tooltip Anchor?
14:10.52Thrae|AwayI just noticed that was an option, when it shouldn't be.
14:11.50snurrehm, k.. might be the problem then
14:12.32CIA-1103thrae * r5418 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.lua: TinyTipOptions - Removed invalid option CURSOR for Extra Tooltip.
14:13.35Thrae|Awayvhaarr: HideInFrames option still isn't working for you?
14:13.51vhaarrThrae|Away: it works on the actual unitframes
14:13.55vhaarrThrae|Away: but not on their borders
14:14.14vhaarrThrae|Away: so when I drag my mouse across, I get a tooltip
14:14.31vhaarrThrae|Away: the one I told you about earlier
14:14.34vhaarrthe default gametooltip
14:14.39vhaarrwith fading
14:18.52vhaarrThrae|Away: (MG2 and ag_UF)
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14:22.40cladhaireAnyone here played with AceDebug2?
14:24.13Wobinsomewhat
14:25.18Thrae|Awayvhaarr: This is very, very ugly.
14:25.44vhaarrThrae|Away: do you know what's going on?
14:26.07Thrae|Awaycladhaire: You made WatchDog. Were you aware that moving your mouse to the border of unit frames makes the game engine internally show the tooltip and internally call SetUnit ?
14:27.29CIA-1103kaelten * r5419 10OneBag/ (readme.txt version history.txt):
14:27.29CIA-11OneBag -
14:27.29CIA-11- Updated readme.txt
14:27.29CIA-11- Added version history.txt
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14:27.45Thrae|AwayActually it looks like it may be an OnLeave event that triggers it.
14:27.50[Wobin]I hate my router =(
14:27.59Thrae|Aways/event/handler/
14:28.55Thrae|AwayI could run an OnUpdate script, but I don't know how to without royally screwing up other tooltips. Hmmmmmmm.
14:29.33Thrae|AwayOh wait I know.
14:30.58cladhaireThrae|Away: yES, ITS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.
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14:31.30Thrae|AwayYou don't have to shout! >.<
14:31.46cladhaireBUT I LIKE SHOUTING
14:31.51cladhairesorry was in WSG, not paying much attention =)
14:31.54Thrae|Awaycladhaire: Any ideas on catching that event? OnShow isn't called.
14:31.55vhaarr:D
14:32.06cladhaireits triggered from the xml, just look at what handler its using.
14:32.13Kaeltendamn computer crashing
14:32.34Thrae|AwayHmmmmmm.
14:32.35cladhaireat least i think
14:32.38CIA-1103kaelten * r5420 10OneBank/ (readme.txt version history.txt):
14:32.38CIA-11OneBank -
14:32.38CIA-11- Updated readme.txt
14:32.38CIA-11- Added version history.txt
14:32.45cladhaireGameTooltip:SetOwner(this, "ANCHOR_BOTTOMRIGHT", 15, -15);
14:32.45cladhaireGameTooltip:SetUnitBuff(this:GetParent():GetParent().unit, this.id);
14:32.49cladhaireOnEnter on my frames
14:32.56Kaeltencladhaire: I figured out my Mouse problems
14:33.15Mikmacladhaire: oh oh, i'm in a 5man party atm and will test the menuproblem now :D
14:33.25CIA-1103kaelten * r5421 10OneView/ (readme.txt version history.txt):
14:33.25CIA-11OneView -
14:33.25CIA-11- Updated readme.txt
14:33.25CIA-11- Added version history.txt
14:34.43Thrae|Awaycladhaire: So I guess I need to do something like GameTooltip.owner:SetScript("OnLeave", TinyTipDoSomething) ?
14:35.10cladhaireKaelten: What was the issue?
14:35.16cladhaireThrae|Away: What's the problem you'r ehaving with it?
14:35.21Thrae|AwayAh wait, I know.
14:35.30hastenoes!
14:35.33Thrae|Awaycladhaire: It's not a WatchDog problem.
14:35.49hasteL50 vs L52 rogue duel, I lost :/
14:35.52Thrae|AwayWhen I leave Unit Frames, the tooltip re-appears, spawned internally by the game engine. I want it to always hide.
14:36.06Thrae|AwayI think I just need to unclamp and set owner to ANCHOR_NONE.
14:36.35cladhairehrm that makes sense
14:37.08IcerothKaelten, does OneView have any search functionality (or if not, is such a feature planned)? i've been using Sanity but lately i've noticed it isn't really accurate, doesn't show stuff i have on my alts i know are there
14:38.40CIA-1103neronix * r5422 10FuBar_NanoClockFu/ (. FuBar_NanoClockFu.toc NanoClockFu.lua): NanoClockFu - Initial commit. An extremely minimalistic clock that can show either game or local time in the panel. 3kb vs ClockFu's 11kb
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14:39.48NeronixAnd it shows both in the tooltip
14:40.30Iceroththat sounds exactly what clockfu does, so what did you do to cut the size to third?)
14:40.36vhaarrindeed
14:40.43vhaarrshould've just replaced clockfu
14:40.49vhaarrand it sounds like a fubar plugin for nanostats
14:40.59cladhaireindeed
14:41.01NeronixClockFu is highly configurable
14:41.19NeronixIt can show offsets, both times in the panel, customisable offsets, etc.
14:41.22NeronixI didn't need all that
14:41.49NeronixAs for renaming, I dunno what to call it :P
14:42.36vhaarr:P
14:42.46CIA-1103thrae * r5423 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - HideInFrames will now really, really stop the tooltip from re-appearing when exiting a frame.
14:42.51NeronixWatchFu?
14:43.07Thrae|Awayvhaarr: There you go
14:43.23vhaarrThrae|Away: wow
14:43.26vhaarrThrae|Away: testing soon
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14:48.53CIA-1103ag * r5424 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
14:48.53CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
14:48.53CIA-11<PROTECTED>
14:48.54CIA-1103kaelten * r5425 10OneView/ (OneView.toc readme.txt): OneView - Updating revision #s
14:49.49CIA-1103kaelten * r5426 10OneBank/ (OneBank.toc readme.txt): OneBank - Updating revision #s
14:49.58CIA-1103kaelten * r5427 10OneBag/ (OneBag.toc readme.txt): OneBag - Updating revision #s
14:50.14vhaarrag`: I can't seem to find any option for grouping ag_UF frames, is it not implemented yet?
14:51.20NeronixTimeFu?
14:51.31NeronixDrWhoFu? ;P
14:51.36vhaarrI think you should just replace the old clockfu
14:51.59vhaarrThrae|Away: ya, you rock! thanks alot mate
14:52.14NeronixBut my version only has a small subset of the functionality in ClockFu
14:52.36NeronixI replace ClockFu --> people who used its features lose them --> angry mob
14:53.30ag`vhaarr, nope
14:53.37vhaarrag`: ah, ok
14:54.04vhaarrag`: and you should get the "Smart" style from Sairen
14:54.08vhaarrag`: for hp/mana display
14:54.13vhaarrit rawks
14:54.36Sairenthis would be nice :)
14:55.38CIA-1103neronix * r5428 10/trunk/ (FuBar_MiniClockFu/ FuBar_NanoClockFu/): Renamed remotely
14:55.45CIA-1103ag * r5429 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
14:55.45CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
14:55.45CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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14:59.13CIA-1103neronix * r5430 10FuBar_MiniClockFu/ (4 files): MiniClockFu - Renamed mod from NanoClockFu
14:59.53cladhaireckknight: You around?
15:00.36CIA-1103neronix * r5431 10EarPlug/Libs/: EarPlug - Forgot to add AceEvent to externals >.<
15:00.41NeronixThanks Mikk
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15:05.17vhaarrThrae|Away: the .toc changes I did earlier are not required?
15:05.22CIA-1103kaelten 072.0.5427 * r5432 10OneBag/: Tagging for release of OneBag 2.0.5427
15:05.27vhaarradded OptionalDeps: TinyTip to ag_UF and MG2
15:05.28CIA-1103kaelten 072.0.5426 * r5433 10OneBank/: Tagging for release of OneBank 2.0.5426
15:05.32CIA-1103kaelten 072.0.5425 * r5434 10OneView/: Tagging for release of OneView 2.0.5425
15:05.42Thrae|Awayvhaarr: No, prob. not
15:06.18cladhaireKaelten: PING
15:07.34CIA-1103ag * r5435 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
15:07.34CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
15:07.34CIA-11<PROTECTED>
15:09.28Kaeltencladhaire: sup?
15:09.36cladhaireKaelten: Have you played with AceModuleCore at all?
15:09.47KaeltenOneBag uses it
15:09.56Kaeltenhavn't gotten around to using it for KCI2 yet
15:09.58cladhaireI dont like how all modules are active by default.
15:10.04cladhairei want the exact opposite.
15:10.30cladhairewell, to be clear, they're IsActive(), but my enable method isn't being called.
15:11.05KaeltenI'm not sure I'm following that last statement
15:11.13Kaeltenyou mean your OnEnable isn't being called?
15:11.33cladhairewell first issue first, to make sure i'm not doing anythign wrong =)
15:11.47cladhaireif you create a module, i.e. Clique:NewModule("blizzuf")
15:12.02cladhaireClique:IsModuleActive("blizzuf") returns true
15:12.32cladhaireMy addon in particular absolutely wants the opposite of that, for modules to be disabled by default, and enabled later on.
15:13.04Kaeltenok, now we did include a way for you to override the active state
15:13.11KaeltenI just gotta remember what it was
15:13.22cladhaireyes, but my :OnEnable() code is already called at that point
15:13.45cladhaireI feel it should either be a function called prior to any new calls (similar to setting prototypes)
15:13.51cladhaireClique:SetModuleDefaultState(nil)
15:14.12cladhairethat way I dont' have to override the IsActive code and implement my own module activation system
15:15.12cladhaireCause I can easily make a Module:IsActive() Which will get called by IsModuleActive, but that's quite hacky, considering modularity is designed to help write unobtrusive code :P
15:15.40Kaeltenhehe.
15:15.42cladhairethe rest of it looks great =)
15:15.56KaeltenI think we anticipated people doing SetModuleState() in the OnInitialize block
15:16.30Kaeltenor ToggleModuleActive rather
15:16.50cladhairebut instead its called automatically
15:16.53cladhairewhich is the issue =)
15:17.33Kaeltenhrm
15:17.45Kaeltenok so you want a way to be able to say all modules need to be disabled by default
15:17.48cladhaireyep
15:18.05cladhaireand the logic in IsModuleActive() is specifically (hand) coded to have enabled be the default.
15:18.43cladhairereturn not self.db or not self.db.raw or not self.db.raw.disabledModules or not self.db.raw.disabledModules[profile] or not self.db.raw.disabledModules[profile][module.name]
15:19.11cladhairesince the disabledModules table doesn't exist, everything's enabled
15:20.53cladhaireOnEnable is being called from AceEvent somewhere
15:21.31cladhaireI can write my own IsActive stuff if I need to, just a suggestion =)
15:23.54IcerothNeronix, you forgat to modify the toc file after you renamed nanoclock
15:24.46CIA-1103ag * r5436 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames - (works this time. I promise)
15:27.36Kaeltencladhaire: I'm working on somethin :)
15:27.42cladhairehehe
15:29.02Kaeltenhow about I create a function SetDefaultActive(true/false)
15:29.08Kaeltenwould that be sufficient?
15:29.19Kaeltenor would it really be called in time :s
15:29.22cladhairewould it be per module, or for all modules?
15:29.31cladhaireas long as its called by AcefUllyinit i think it'd be fine.
15:29.46KaeltenIt'd be for all modules
15:29.53cladhairei could roll with that =)
15:29.55Kaeltenit'd be a method in the core.
15:30.00cladhairewould be more than sufficient
15:30.11cladhairewell SetModuleDefaultActive(true/false) if its in the core
15:30.12cladhaireto be consistent.
15:30.20Kaeltenright
15:30.24Mikmacladhaire: what's this "calling the original function" with clique debug?
15:30.56cladhaireMikma: It means its using the ag click function
15:31.08cladhaireyou should only see that when you dont have a bound clique function
15:31.09Mikmawhich is what? :?
15:31.10Kaeltenok other concern though
15:31.16Mikmacladhaire: mmkay
15:31.28cladhaireKaelten: It can be handled manually without TOO much heartache.. just wanted to see if there was a good reason for it.
15:31.51cladhaireI can actually make my system work with a custom IsActive prototype, because of when the addon tries to enable its modules.
15:31.56cladhairei was concerned about timing before
15:31.58Kaeltenonly thing I can really see as working easily is to have the core add an IsActive
15:32.11cladhairein that case i'll do it manually
15:32.15cladhairei just think its a bad design =)
15:32.27Kaeltenit is, there should be an easy way to override it
15:33.31Kaeltenif it was using parts of the standard database it would be a simple RegisterDefaults statement
15:35.07KaeltenI have an idea let me see how easy it would be to do
15:35.35cladhaireok
15:35.41cladhairedon't stress too hard =)
15:35.56Icerothcan i lock OneBag frame?
15:36.06Icerothposition i mean
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15:48.30KaeltenIceroth: not atm, I can add it pretty easy though
15:52.01Icerothi'd appreciate
15:52.35mjchmm
15:52.42Mikmacladhaire: interesting that it hasn't bugged now since the debugmessages are on
15:52.59mjcis it possible to update local svn repos against other local svn repos?
15:53.05cladhaireMikma: hehe
15:53.17mjcKaelten: onebank doesn't always open for me, I have to /rl sometimes
15:57.34Kaeltenmjc, in the latest version?
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16:07.16Mikmaag`: Nice job! the debuffcounts work nicely
16:07.18Icerothanyone using LuaProfiler? i can't see column headers :|
16:08.23ag`yay
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16:08.47NeronixIceroth: sorry
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16:17.39hyperChipmunk=D
16:17.43hyperChipmunksup folks
16:19.07Amadeoparty's over
16:24.23Amadeo:X
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16:26.11Mikmahow does the whisper function work?
16:26.17Mikmai wan't to make a /m alias for it
16:29.12Thrae|AwaySendChatMessage(text, WHISPER)
16:29.52Mikmawhere does the target go?
16:30.02Mikmaor does it even need it?
16:30.09Thrae|AwayOh, right.
16:30.24Thrae|AwayLookup SendChatMessage on wowwiki.
16:30.30Mikmathanks, all i really needed was the function :)
16:34.50Mikmahttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage
16:34.51Mikmaping
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16:57.47snurreany plans on making tooltips for the aguf buff icons?
16:59.46ag`there is tooltips on
16:59.54FtH|Eagleis there an automatic way to create a dewdrop menu from the aceoption table?
17:01.07hasteyou feed Dewdrop the AceOption table
17:02.24ag`dewdrop:Register(UIParent, 'children', table)
17:02.39FtH|Eagleoh, that easy :)
17:02.46hyperChipmunkyerp
17:03.00FtH|Eaglethx ;)
17:03.10NeronixIf you want it to pop up next to a frame, replace UIParent with whatever parent frame you want to use
17:03.20hastehyperChipmunk: How imba is the current PvP gear?
17:03.34hasteyou had a rank14 hunter if I remember correct ;D
17:03.50snurreag`: i can only see tooltips on debuffs, not buffs
17:05.14ag`works fine here
17:06.57Amadeosnurre: I think ag fixed that one of the recent updates
17:12.14TainI have the latest svn and it didn't show tooltips on buffs for me when I tried it yesterday.
17:12.32TainUnless it's been updated since yesterday.  Which would mean I don't have latest.
17:13.10TainThere has been an update since what I had so I will try that before saying anything else foolish.
17:16.46cladhairemmm. the clique rewrite is going well
17:17.46CIA-1103cladhaire 07Unstable * r5439 10Clique/Clique/ (10 files in 3 dirs):
17:17.46CIA-11Clique:
17:17.46CIA-11* Initial conversion over to AceDB, etc.
17:17.47CIA-11* Externals update
17:17.47CIA-11* Using AceLocale for enUS, still in progress
17:17.47CIA-11* Appears to actually work (I'm healing atm).. we'll see.
17:27.27Mikmalol 2x tabard of scarlet crusades on first run
17:27.34Mikmaand it's unique :D
17:27.43Mikma(i soloed herold with my priest)
17:28.19FtH|Eaglesomebody knows if there is a way to keep a frame on the position when the scale changes? my frame is going to the top left if I'm changing this.
17:29.40TainYou have to adjust the x/y offsets at the same time as changing the scale and run a new SetPoint
17:30.07FtH|Eaglemh ok
17:40.50Mikmahaste: error with ora :P
17:40.56hasteMikma: 355?
17:41.33Mikmahaste: 329: attempt to index gloabal oRA_MainTank a nil value ;) don't have it enabled tho
17:41.47hastewhat file?
17:41.56MikmaCore.lua
17:42.12Mikmai didn't have oRA_MainTank enabled when i targeted player and clicked the oRA menu from fubar
17:42.18hastewhat revision
17:42.24Amadeosomeone help me design a cool guild tabard...I'm awful at this :)
17:42.24hasteerrr
17:42.27hasteoRA_Menu is not my doing
17:42.45TainI dislike the guild tabard designs.  I've never found one I liked.
17:43.09hasteAmadeo: and line 329 on the SVN is "end"
17:43.15hasteso what revision?
17:43.20hasteand what file
17:43.23hastesince there is no Core.lua in oRA
17:43.41Mikmahaste: can i see the revision from somewhere
17:43.53hastepora
17:43.57Amadeohaste: Did you mean to say "Amadeo"? :)
17:43.59haste/ora
17:44.11hasteAmadeo: no, wrong tab press
17:44.19hasteyou replied when I pressed my tab :p
17:44.24hastewhich is auto-complete last highlight
17:44.29Amadeoheheh
17:44.57AmadeoI hate this tabard stuff :(
17:45.07Mikmahaste: 1.1.4820, and the error is gone when i enabled ora_maintank
17:45.53hasteMikma: you said you created the error with oRA_Menu?
17:46.01haste'cause I didn't write oRA_Menu ;D
17:46.12Mikmahaste: yeah that might be the reason ;)
17:46.33AmadeoWhat's with the Tabard Maker on Cursed? It has textures and such that don't even exist
17:49.34hastewonder if I can solo Herod with my L50 rogue
17:51.13Mikmawell anyway, ora_menu is sweet
17:51.19Mikmai dig it
17:58.41hasteweee
17:58.48hasteherod 0 - my L50 rogue 1
17:59.17cladhairelol nayce
17:59.50hastehe hits hard ^^
18:00.01IcerothThrae|Away, TinyTipIcons.lua:90: Usage: <unnamed>:SetTexCoord(minX, maxX, minY, maxY) or SetTexCoord(ULx, ULy, LLx, LLy, URx, URy, LRx, LRy)
18:00.12hasteand I got 1600 XP for it :p
18:01.58cladhairewoot
18:02.01cladhairefull exalted with AV
18:02.13haste;D
18:03.41AmadeoRogue specs are a lot harder to do in 1.12
18:05.25AmadeoCombat gets screwed the most, Assassination gets the best reorganization
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18:08.01cladhairecombat didn't get screwed
18:08.04cladhairehow can you say that? =)
18:08.14Amadeobecause all the talents take too many points
18:08.24hasteerr
18:08.28cladhairei dont think so
18:08.35cladhairedaggers are fixed FINALLY
18:08.39hasteif you put points in everything taht's good
18:08.47hasteand you end up with 40 points in a tree
18:08.50cladhairewell its no different than frost or fire for mages
18:08.52hasteit most likely means that tree owns ;D
18:08.58AmadeoIn Assassination, you can get every single worthwhile talent and only spend 31 points
18:09.04cladhairebecause assass sucks.
18:09.11hasteyou can do the same thing with mages
18:09.12cladhairesublety sucks.,
18:09.15cladhairecombat has all the good talents =)
18:09.20cladhaireso you put lal your points there.
18:09.29AmadeoYeah, but you need stuff in the other trees to make Combat good also
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18:09.51cladhaire*shrug*
18:09.58cladhaireif you mean its bad, because there are too many good specs, then you're right
18:10.01cladhaireotherwise i disagree =)
18:10.14cladhaireand i've been playing a rogue for almost 2.25 years now :P
18:10.32AmadeoNo, I just mean because there are too many 5 point talents in the tree, and the new talents they added take 3 or so
18:10.40hastehaha
18:10.43TupladKyahx: Mana Conserve doesnt work in AceHeal ?
18:10.44hasteHerod becomes enraged.
18:10.49hasteHerod hits you for 588.
18:10.55KyahxTuplad: It never worked taht well to begin with :P
18:11.01TupladQ_Q
18:11.05hasteYou gain vanish.
18:11.14TupladKyahx: copy it from CTRA :D
18:11.20Tupladthey have a working one
18:11.22Amadeocladhaire: I'm trying to get a good Combat Swords PvP spec going
18:11.33hasteTuplad: Mana Conserve = LEARN TO PLAY FFS
18:11.51KyahxHow long will be be before I stop maintaing AceHeal when I don't use it  :'(
18:11.56Kyahxheh
18:12.03vhaarr:/
18:12.07hasteKyahx: Hopefully the same amount as oRA and me
18:12.13Kyahx:)
18:12.16Tupladhaste: FFS ? No, FCS ! But umm :\ how are you going to l2p in a 40man raid ? :D
18:12.16vhaarrKyahx: got the branch on your computer now? :P
18:12.22Kyahxno, hehe
18:12.25cladhaireShould i equip my [Frostwolf Insignia Rank 6], my [Insignia of the Horde], or my [Rune of Perfection]?
18:12.39Tupladclad wot class ru ?
18:12.43cladhairedrood on this one.
18:12.43Kyahxdrood?
18:12.46Kyahxah
18:12.54cladhairei'm roguepriestdruidhunter
18:12.58TainThe problem with Rogue is no matter what build you want if you odn't spend 16 in Assassination you're going to do less damage.
18:13.07Tupladthen take insignia
18:13.10Tupladand av
18:13.15Kyahxso Haste, how is oRA2 comeing along?  :P
18:13.17Kyahxlol
18:13.55TainI dunno but the last time I tried oRA it made every popup window close instantly on me.  Char screen, spellbook, vendors, etc.
18:14.17AmadeoWell maybe that's what it is then, they fixed daggers and ruined swords :P
18:14.19hasteahahha
18:14.21KyahxThat was a bug with some other mod in conflict
18:14.25hasteHeord crits you for 791.
18:14.27hasteYou die.
18:14.34hasteHP acording to mobhealth 79
18:14.51haste791 white damage crit, that hurts ^^
18:15.05hasteKyahx: I haven't looked much at it yet, due to the fact that I don't raid
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18:15.31TainNah Amadeo  they really didn't ruin anything, all weapons will get a slight boost in the review.  It's the other stuff that is still ehn.
18:15.35hasteTain: that's the Improved Quest thingy
18:15.41hasteTain: not a oRA problemm
18:15.41cladhaireok
18:15.43cladhairelaundry
18:15.43cladhairebrb
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18:17.12TainWell I got rid of the quest addon so I guess I can try oRA again.  I won't pretend that makes any sense to me.
18:17.19MoonWolflooks like ill have to spend 90 euro's in order to be able to actually usefully USE my pc again
18:17.45MoonWolfwhat does ora have to do with quests ... ?
18:18.05hasteTain: People say it's the quest thingy
18:18.11hasteI've never had the problem myself =
18:18.47TainLots of problems I"ve never had myself but others have.
18:19.10hasteI love when that happens
18:19.47mjcMoonWolf: what's up with it
18:19.51TainI'm just annoyed because all I really want is a quest tracker window like Monkeyquest's that shows only the quests I want to currently track.
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18:20.06MoonWolfsomething on it is damaged
18:20.11mjcTain: just shift click em
18:20.17mjcthe blizz one works great :p
18:20.27hasteI agree
18:20.31mjcMoonWolf: ...
18:20.48MoonWolfrandomly when i use the pc it wil crash with either a irq_not_less_then_or_equal or page_fault_in_nonpaged_area
18:20.56mjcdrivers or memory
18:21.01mjcusually not motherboard
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18:21.16MoonWolfi ruled out driver issues when it did those crashes with a windows install cd
18:21.16mjcdo you have any pci cards ?
18:21.22MoonWolfand memtest86 found zip.
18:21.47mjcMoonWolf: some pci cards don't like irq sharing
18:21.48TainWhat the hell when did Blizz add that.
18:21.53mjclike creative sound cards and crap
18:21.59mjcTain: 1.9ish
18:22.15MoonWolfmjc, no pci cards , only my pci-e nvidia
18:22.39mjcMoonWolf: check your irqs, see if they're all set to the same address
18:22.41MoonWolfand it has not produces this error since i built it.
18:22.47MoonWolfproduced*
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18:24.08mjcwho the heck is Suntiger
18:24.13hasteMoonWolf...
18:24.43MoonWolfmjc, no errors that i could find.
18:25.08MoonWolfbeleive me, I have a hint of knowing what i am doing. And I am positive its my mobo.
18:25.35mjctry turning off ACPI
18:25.37MoonWolf(yes i have cleaned and reseated all cards and the memory too)
18:26.06MoonWolfill try
18:26.08MoonWolfbrb
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18:31.53MoonWolfi could not find a way to disable acpi in my bios.
18:33.05mjchmm.
18:33.11mjcwhat motherboard?
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18:36.56Suntigerfuckit
18:37.01Suntigerwhere did i keep my aida install
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18:47.13Tupladhmmm, lol
18:47.19TupladI kill a mob and get: [20:47-146] ...BulkMail\lib\Ace2\AceLocale\AceLocale-2.0.lua:345: attempt to index field `translations' (a nil value)
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18:49.31MoonWolfdid any of what i said get through ?
18:50.05hastelast thing was about aida install
18:50.19MoonWolf<[MoonWolf]> mjc, if you wondered where i went. that was me waiting 5 minutes so that windows would boot without a bsod again
18:50.19MoonWolf<[MoonWolf]> its gigabyte mobo ga-k8nf-9
18:50.28mjcMoonWolf: hmm
18:53.17mjcwell these people sound dumb, but have you tried playing with CAS settings or memory voltage?
18:53.25mjcand/or bios update
18:55.24ckknighthey all, back
18:55.38mjcupping memory voltage seems to have worked for at least two people... from 2.6 to 2.7
18:56.31Tupladhmm, how does perfectraidtargets work ? It counts the amount of ppl targetting the same target or wha ?
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18:57.43CIA-1103ckknight * r5440 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: AceLocale - fixed line 345 bug
18:58.02CIA-1103kaelten * r5441 10OneBank/ (OneBank.lua version history.txt):
18:58.02CIA-11OneBank -
18:58.02CIA-11- Added ability to lock the frame in place.
18:58.25CIA-1103kaelten * r5442 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua templates.xml):
18:58.25CIA-11OneBag -
18:58.25CIA-11- Added ability to lock the frame in place.
18:58.56Kaeltenthere ya go
18:58.56mjcKaelten: still occaisionally getting onebank to not show until I /rl
18:59.07Tupladyay :D
18:59.19Kaeltenmjc: any bugs messages to go along with it?
18:59.28mjc<PROTECTED>
18:59.43mjcresolution is 2560x1600 so I doubt it was off the screen or something
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19:05.54TupladVoices From Beyond wont announce anything to guild btw :(
19:08.17CIA-1103kyahx 07Kyahx * r5443 10SmartRes/SmartRes/SmartRes.lua: SmartRes v2.0: Now has all the options of the original SmartRes! (Changing the res message and sending to custom chat channels work now.)
19:11.10TupladI feel ignored :]
19:11.24mjcyou're annoying
19:14.34Kaeltenmjc, it won't go off of screen, I have it clamped
19:15.20Kaeltenmjc, next time it happens do /bs show
19:15.22mjck, then I don't know what it is, but sometimes when  I right click on the bank npc I get the 'bank opened' sound and no onebank
19:15.31mjcKaelten:  /bs list didn't give anything
19:15.40KaeltenI need you to help me figure out how to reproduce it
19:15.44mjcok
19:18.53JagobahSmartRes!
19:20.11Jagobahoh darn, I thought SMartRes was for in game resolutions
19:20.34Kyahxlol
19:20.58KyahxI have no idea how to merge it into the trunk and replace the current, so yea...
19:21.01JagobahKinda like gfxtoggle, only with resolutions!
19:21.03Kyahx:P it'll sit in branches
19:21.23Kyahxnah, changeing resolutions would be ... not useful
19:21.25Kyahxlol
19:21.50Jagobahyeaaaah I guess you're right
19:25.00mjcit'd be nice to ahve a way to see how many people in giuld are in the same zone
19:26.37CIA-1103kyahx * r5444 10FreeRefills/ (Core.lua FreeRefills.toc Locals.lua libs/):
19:26.37CIA-11FreeRefills v2.0:
19:26.37CIA-11<PROTECTED>
19:26.37CIA-11<PROTECTED>
19:27.38mjccool.
19:27.46mjcKyahx: does that handle rogue poisons? :P
19:27.53KyahxNo!
19:27.57mjc:(
19:28.10Kyahxlol, thats been asked forever :P  Just use Fizwidle's Auto-Craft
19:28.18Kyahx(Poisions is a Trade Skill)
19:28.34mjcI was using poisonmaster before
19:28.57mjcI'd rather whatever solution I use be in svn somewhere
19:29.04mjcupdating mods by hand is retarded
19:29.27Kyahxeh, poisions are really unique as they'd require alot more processing than just regular items.  FR is more of a general soultion for everything else
19:29.43Kyahxreagents, scrolls, combat potions, anything you keep in your bank
19:29.46Kyahxetc...
19:29.49Tuplad:o
19:30.11TainUpdating addons from svn is a good way to break your UI. :)
19:30.19Kyahx<3 broken UIs
19:30.25mjcTain: svn revert
19:30.28Kyahxmy addons folder is a SVN repo as well
19:30.30Kyahxlol
19:31.00mjcsvn revert > "wtf was my old version of that bullshit mod?"
19:31.10TainI only update from svn if I have no choice or if someone says the current version is working.
19:31.35TainFuckers need to stop being so lazy and actually release addons instead of perpetual svn.
19:31.35Kyahxmjc: http://www.fizzwidget.com/autocraft/
19:31.40steinoI do "svn update *" and hope it works :p
19:31.42mjcI already downloaded it
19:31.47Kyahx:) kk
19:32.10mjcpoisonmaster is better for poisons, though
19:32.15mjccept it's poorly written
19:32.26TainIt's fine if you only do one poison type at a time.
19:32.38TainTry to do more than one and you're rolling the dice.
19:32.41mjcI just put in 20 deadly poison, rank 5, 20 instant poisons, rank 4, and hit create a few times
19:33.18Kyahxyou could make an assload of posions, keep them in your bank, and then have FR bank loot them ^.^
19:33.33mjcFR?
19:33.38KyahxFreeRefills
19:33.40mjcah
19:33.49mjctoo lazy to buy more bank bags
19:33.56TainI don't have enough room in the bank for that.
19:34.08KyahxJuggleing reagents vs. bag stock is too much of a hassle, esepcially considering it only applies to one tradeskill that only one class can have.
19:34.15TainDisregarding the fact that that will only work once you hit 60 and aren't upgrading poisons.
19:34.46CIA-1103cladhaire 07Unstable * r5445 10Clique/Clique/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
19:34.46CIA-11Clique:
19:34.46CIA-11* Worked through the module system so everything is disabled by default, and properly enabled when necessary
19:34.46CIA-11* Updated plugins for BUF and PerfectRaid, they will be the only ones that work at the moment
19:34.46CIA-11* Changed the SV structure to a new variable name, so everyone will be cleared. These settings should be final
19:34.49CIA-11* Updated the old key modifier system to bitpack for a number of reasons.
19:35.02KyahxBUF?
19:35.08KyahxBlizzard Unit Frames
19:35.22Kyahxtook me a second
19:36.21cladhairelol
19:36.47mjcKyahx: yeah, this addon is nice
19:36.52mjcit needs to be in SVN though :P
19:37.08Kyahxeh, its not ace'd nor by someone who makes ace mods :P
19:37.28KyahxAllthou I agree, a WoWInterface SVN would be kinda nice.  A giant repo of everything ever.
19:38.42cladhaireand an insane pain in the ass to manage =)
19:38.48TupladCIA-11* Updated plugins for BUF and PerfectRaid, they will be the only ones that work at the moment
19:38.50Tupladwhat's BUF ?
19:38.51cladhairebut a good idea, that they're always looking at :P
19:38.54Tupladoh nvm
19:38.57cladhairelol
19:42.41snurrewonder what in aguf/clique that is making the menu come up if you shift+rclick on party4, target or targetstarget
19:47.28Tupladtekkub: you there ?
19:48.59CIA-1103cladhaire 07Unstable * r5446 10Clique/Clique/Plugins/Clique_PluginTemplate.lua:
19:48.59CIA-11Clique:
19:48.59CIA-11* Created and commited a plugin template. Should be obvious how to convert plugins to the new format
19:48.59CIA-11* I can't guarantee how speedy that conversion will be, if people wanna help =)
20:00.57CIA-1103phyber * r5447 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
20:00.57CIA-11XPBarNone:
20:00.57CIA-11- Added a few missing options, 'hidetext' and 'resting'.
20:06.37CIA-1103cladhaire 07Unstable * r5448 10Clique/Clique/ (Localization.de.lua Localization.fr.lua Localization.zh.lua):
20:06.38CIA-11Clique:
20:06.42CIA-11* Updated localization files
20:09.47KyahxHow come Lucen's branch of PerfectRaid was never merged into the trunk?
20:09.54CIA-1103neronix * r5449 10FuBar_NavigatorFu/ (. FuBar_NavigatorFu.toc NavigatorFu.lua icon.tga):
20:09.54CIA-11NavigatorFu - Initial commit. Lightweight and minimalistic mod that shows your
20:09.55CIA-11current coordinates in the panel and on the world map and the cursor coordinates
20:09.55CIA-11on the world map. All coordinates rounded as %.1f. Based on LocationFu and
20:09.55CIA-11MapCoords
20:10.02NeronixI needed something that does JUST that
20:10.50Neronix`afkComing soon (Later tonight?) - MiniPerfsFu! PerformanceFu, but with only the features I need :P
20:11.05Kyahxheh
20:12.42hastehmm
20:13.07hasteor no....
20:13.08hastedamn my ides
20:13.37hasteideas even
20:14.05hasteI got a really strange solution to how I should make the mirror bars
20:14.09hasteHave to test it now
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20:37.03CIA-1103cladhaire 07Unstable * r5450 10Clique/Clique/ (24 files in 2 dirs):
20:37.03CIA-11Clique:
20:37.03CIA-11* Updated all plugins to new format, will not load currently
20:37.03CIA-11* Need to unit test each of them to ensure they work for main release
20:37.03CIA-11* Click-to-res needs to be rewritten with the new hook system, which I haven't implemented yet.
20:44.20Mikmasupermega-updates by clad
20:46.59cladhaireit was close to a rewrite
20:47.01cladhairesince that's how i roll =)
20:47.09Mikmahehe
20:47.19cladhairenot that anyone other than me will notice.
20:47.20Mikmaeverytime i look into irc i see a new clique commit
20:47.26cladhaireSV reset in this versino
20:47.30cladhairebe aware =)
20:47.33cladhaireits on branches tho
20:47.46Mikmawill test it after this raid ends
20:47.52cladhaireack
20:47.52cladhairedont
20:47.53cladhairelol
20:48.00Mikmawhy not? :D
20:48.01cladhaireonly two unit frames are guaranteed to work
20:48.06cladhaireyou can if you wanna
20:48.07cladhairelol
20:48.08cladhairebut
20:48.09cladhaire=)
20:48.31Mikmawell i'll be testing aguf then won't i? ;)
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21:00.32ag`cladhaire, tell me when to write new plugins :-)
21:01.32Icerothag`, some option to anchor/lock party frames (and party pets) would be really sweet
21:01.32cladhaireag`: I've converted it already
21:01.35cladhairejust needs to be tested
21:03.08ag`Iceroth, there already is
21:04.43Icerothoh?
21:04.56ag`type /aguf
21:05.07Icerothi don't mean lock as in "lock in position" but as group them together or so
21:05.23ag`ah, haven't worked on that yet
21:05.30ag`I am trying to figure out a good aproach
21:05.53Icerothoh, and "filter buffs" doesn't show druid thorns
21:06.05ag`complain to blizzard about that
21:06.08ag`it's their filter
21:06.13Icerothoh :)
21:06.32ag`I'd like to edit the list of buffs/debuffs to display but I can't
21:06.50Icerothtoo bad.. i'd like to see hots as well
21:07.01Icerothbesides the ones i cast
21:07.41ag`the only way for me to do that would to read the spellbook for castable spells and then sort the buffs by looking at the tooltips
21:07.47ag`but I think that's butugly
21:13.58CIA-1103otravi * r5451 10/branches/otravi_CastingBar/ (14 files in 4 dirs):
21:13.58CIA-11oCB2:
21:13.58CIA-11- Not recommended to use.
21:13.58CIA-11- Has support for MirrorTimers (ie. Feign Death, Breath and Fatigue).
21:13.58CIA-11- It works however.
21:14.23hastemore or less a direct change atm, going through it piece by piece :p
21:15.28hasteI also didn't follow blizzards way of solving the MirrorTimers
21:20.11phybernice :)
21:22.33CIA-1103cladhaire 07Unstable * r5452 10Clique/Clique/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
21:22.33CIA-11Clique:
21:22.33CIA-11* Added the click-to-res system back in in the new format
21:22.33CIA-11* Made some changes to the debug system in preparation of AceDebug changes
21:24.18Mikmalook, new commit for clique when i looked in irc
21:24.26CIA-1103kaelten * r5453 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua templates.xml):
21:24.26CIA-11OneBag - Added ability to adjust color and alpha of the background separate from
21:24.26CIA-11the whole frame. This let you make the background completely transparent or
21:24.26CIA-11completely opaque. Also added in options to reset the color options if you want
21:24.26CIA-11to go back to the defaults.
21:24.34CIA-1103kaelten * r5454 10OneBank/OneBank.lua:
21:24.34CIA-11OneBank - Added ability to adjust color and alpha of the background separate
21:24.34CIA-11from the whole frame. This let you make the background completely transparent
21:24.35CIA-11or completely opaque. Also added in options to reset the color options if you
21:24.36hasteMikma: to slow :p
21:24.37CIA-11want to go back to the defaults.
21:25.00Kaeltengotta run guys
21:25.03Kaeltenbe back later
21:25.51Amadeome too!
21:26.06CIA-1103maia * r5455 10Squishy/frames.lua: Squishy: small unit frame layout tweak
21:30.37Kyahxcladhaire: I'm trying to add an option to perfect raid to change the bar texture, but I can't seem to get the bars to change unless I reloadUI
21:30.48Kyahxself:UpdateVisibility() should rebuild all the frames shouldn't it?
21:33.17Icerothag`, i got a funny request: add option to player frame: "show only in party/raid"
21:34.11Icerothreason being that i don't usually have player frame shown (due to hud) but when healing party (like on Vael), it would be extremely handy to have own frame as 5th party member
21:34.50Mikmaour second guildrun..
21:34.54Mikmawe are at hakkar atm
21:35.05Mikmathis guild is 3days old
21:35.46Icerothwell hows your gear? at least on the horde side on our server, guilds seem to come and go, epic geared ppl are more or less the same
21:36.27Mikmamy gear is almost full epic, but the rest aren't
21:36.37Mikmai'd say 35% of the people in this raid are wellgeared
21:37.24Mikka.k.a 7 out of 20
21:38.42Mikmayeap
21:38.44kergothgod i need better gear.  my 60 rogue is using a julie's still, and a dagger off of erakanis in st :(
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21:41.25SarozIs anyone making some raid frames for oRA?
21:42.54hasteuhm
21:42.59hastePerfectRaid, XRaid?
21:43.28SarozCTRA style frames
21:44.09hyperChipmunkthat's Xraid
21:44.30hyperChipmunkbut that's got nothing to do with oRA
21:44.32kergothisnt the whole point of ora _not_ to have that crap?
21:44.40hyperChipmunkexactly
21:44.54Sarozwell, can't replace CTRA with oRA without some frames for the raid
21:44.55hyperChipmunkunit frames and raid mods are totally different things
21:45.02Sarozapparently there are no CT-like raid frames for it
21:45.11hyperChipmunkthere's no connection
21:45.15hyperChipmunkuse any raid frames you like
21:45.28hyperChipmunkyou don't make raid frames 'for' a raid addon
21:45.35hyperChipmunkyou have a raid addon and you have raid unitframes
21:45.37Sarozok, well let me rephrase, is there any raid frames that look like the CTRA ones?
21:45.38kergoththeres plenty of raid frames that work wonderfully
21:45.48kergothyou're probably looking for xraid
21:45.51hyperChipmunkXraid
21:48.33ag`just wondering why they 'have' to look like CTRA :P
21:48.43ag`I would say perfectraid is better
21:49.00Sarozdon't think they are better for a healing class
21:49.05Sarozthat's my problem :/
21:49.27ag`Not sure why you would think that, they show all the same information afaik
21:49.37steinoi think praid is better suited for a healing class :o
21:49.56hasteI also like PRaid as a healer
21:51.06gnorlishi don't even use raid frames as a healer
21:51.16gnorlishi just click on all 40 people in the raid
21:51.20gnorlishin sequence
21:51.39Sarozhow do you click them? you must have frames to gain overview?
21:51.48gnorlishno way, that's cheating
21:51.51Sarozlol
21:52.29CIA-1103kyahx * r5456 10PerfectRaid/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
21:52.29CIA-11PerfectRaid:
21:52.29CIA-11<PROTECTED>
21:52.29CIA-11<PROTECTED>
21:52.29CIA-11<PROTECTED>
21:52.43ag`for i = 1,40 do if lowhealth then cast heal end
21:53.19CIA-1103grennon * r5457 10GMail/GMail.xml: GMail: Fix AutoComplete Buglet
21:53.20Sarozafaik there is no way to change the split for perfectraid? I mean, you can't have group 1-4 on top, and then 5-8 below?
21:53.23Sarozit has to be vertical?
21:53.28Kyahxyep
21:53.33Sarozwtb
21:53.37Kyahxthats kinda the point :P  a single simple list
21:54.14Sarozcan you order by HP?
21:54.22gnorlishclad has to do a total rewrite before he releases a new version with all sorts of nice sorting methods
21:54.29gnorlishand he's working on some other addons first
21:55.11Sarozyou can't see mana in perfectraid either :/ only the mana warning
21:55.24KyahxYou dont need to :P
21:55.39Kyahxand if you want sorted by health, use Squishy (an emergency moniter)
21:55.46Sarozyea I know
21:56.12CIA-1103kyahx * r5458 10otravi_CastingBar/ (Textures/striped.tga otravi_CastingBar.lua): otravi_CastingBar: Added my Striped texture because I like it, and sharing is good.
21:56.35CIA-1103otravi 07otravi * r5459 10otravi_CastingBar/oCB/ (casting.lua core.lua frame.lua mirror.lua):
21:56.35CIA-11oCB2:
21:56.35CIA-11- Can now save frame position, and restore!
21:56.35CIA-11- Minor tweaks.
21:56.41hasteKyahx: it's in oCB2 however ;)
21:56.48Kyahxopps?
21:56.56KyahxIm useing the old oCB, heh
21:57.07hastenot recommended to use oCB2 (yet)
21:57.22Kyahxmmm, stripes
21:57.39hastenoes! Glaze = win
21:57.43Kyahxhehe
21:57.54KyahxI use smooth for hp bars, and striped for mana / casting :P
21:58.04hasteI actually believe I improved the MirrorTimer system quite well
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22:00.01kergothuh, you can sort perfectraid by need just fine.. health, curse, poison, etc
22:00.07kergothright?
22:00.44Kyahx|afkdon't think so :P
22:06.20hyperChipmunkyou can
22:06.27hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
22:17.14Mikmawell hakkar didn't go down :)
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22:17.34Mikmawas too hard for us, but people are learning :D
22:17.48TemHOT DICKINGS
22:18.08Mikkand balls
22:18.10Mikksummer sucks
22:18.14Mikkexcept not in that way
22:18.21Mikmasummer sucks balls
22:18.22Mikmaok
22:18.44Mikmacladhaire: PR UPDATE! zomg
22:20.12gnorlishit's a merge
22:21.04Mikkoo tem btw
22:21.17Mikki'd like to bounce some ideas re: etchasketch and acegui off you
22:21.31Temwhat's etchasketch?
22:21.34Temoh, nevermind
22:21.36TemI remember that
22:21.37Mikkmy in-game ui editor to be
22:21.50Temyou solved my biggest annoyance in line 1 lines
22:21.52Temline*
22:22.09TemI really like the idea of the "method" table
22:22.19Temsolves a lot of annoyances
22:22.55Mikkit just seemed like the easiest way to store data without ruining flexibility :P
22:23.24TemI just don't want to change that part of the AceGUI api
22:23.27Mikkanyway... i'm kind of a total acegui nub. i've looked at a doco page real quick but that's about it
22:23.32Mikkno, i realize that
22:23.46Mikkbut what etchasketch is right now is fairly .... raw ....
22:23.47Temsince I'd rather it be a <15 minute job to switch from old to new AceGUI
22:24.07Mikkas far as i've been told, there's a bunch of useful templates in acegui?
22:24.12Temah
22:24.14Temyes there are
22:24.20Temthey just don't exist in the new version
22:24.22Tem... yet
22:24.30Mikkthat's okay, etchasketch doesn't really exist either =)
22:24.38Mikk... yet
22:24.41TemThey'll be the last thing we write
22:24.47Temright now I'm working on the backend
22:24.56Temthe part that gives you headaches if you think about too long
22:25.13Temok, sorry, you had ideas?
22:25.32Mikkaeuhh well the obvious idea would be more along the lines of letting EAS know about AceGUI so it can make use of it
22:25.57Mikkwhich means 0 effort for you and lots for me i think =P
22:26.08Temshouldn't be that bad really
22:26.55TemI had the idea for my own in-game gui maker a long time ago and was plannning to build it right on top of AceGUI
22:27.04Mikkor perhaps i should say ... make use of its templates?
22:27.19Tem(in that the user creates their gui with the addon, and it spits out an AceGUI config table for them
22:27.21Tem)
22:27.55Mikksince i'm the acegui nub, perhaps you can tell me better where we might want to look at making life easier for the devs out there?
22:28.11Mikki'll mention one thing
22:28.20Mikki'm planning on making a sort of template system
22:28.34Mikkwhere people can install more or less complex templates into etchasketch
22:28.35Mikmano your not, your just teasing us with the idea
22:28.48Temshush you
22:28.57Mikmalike giving us a porn-dvd with lord of the rings inside
22:29.07Mikkthe no-brainer version is just having a bunch of design snippets that are basically just copy&pasted into the design
22:29.25hyperChipmunksweet! free lotr dvds
22:29.30Mikkthough i'm thinking that more advanced templates might want to have actual code associated with them
22:29.39TemMikk, hmm... I'm not sure exactly what you mean
22:29.58TemI was thinking that EAS wouldn't really do anything other than make it easy to design the gui
22:30.09tekkuberf
22:30.27MikkWell yeah, but having a library of common gui components sounds useful to designers, no?
22:30.37Mikk"Simple" templates: Buttons, Editboxes
22:30.37Tem(is it unnerd-like for me to think of "EA Sports" everytime I say EAS?)
22:30.42Mikkyes
22:30.42Temugh, brb
22:30.48Mikkok, grabbing a smoke then
22:31.34Temback
22:32.24TemI'm gonna have to go soon
22:35.37Tembah
22:35.39Temoff I go
22:35.45TemI'll be back later tonight
22:35.54Mikmai just love bigwigs :D
22:36.02Tem(I'm sure there will be lots of time for me to tab out during AQ ><)
22:36.06Mikmai'm the onlyone who broadcasts stuff in raids <3
22:36.28TemI am now the one who broadcasts stuff to our raids
22:36.40Tembecause BW has such better messages than CTRABM
22:37.09Templus some bosses that the other doesn't have
22:37.10Tem(like fear warnings for Vem and pals)
22:37.21Mikkokay tem
22:37.22Temanyway, I've gotta head out
22:37.27Mikkexcept i'll probably go sleep
22:37.29Mikkahwell catch you later
22:37.31Tembah
22:37.31Mikkno hurry =)
22:37.39TemI'll be back in a few hours
22:37.42Tem3 tops
22:37.49Mikkokies
22:38.14hyperChipmunkTinyTipIcons.lua:90: Usage: <unnamed>:SetTexCoord(minX, maxX, minY, maxY) or SetTexCoord(ULx, ULy, LLx, LLy, URx, URy, LRx, LRy) ---
22:39.10Mikkaka "stop feeding me nil values from uninitialized tables ya nub!"
22:42.15Kyahxinteresting
22:49.30tekkubkergoth, which server are you on again
22:57.08MikkCan anyone think of a sane way of implementing modal dialogs in wow?
22:57.33MikkOr hm.. perhaps not modal
22:57.48MikkBut disabling the parent dialog to then point where you can't click or type anywhere
22:58.12MikkOhwait... i r st00pid
22:58.31MikkSlap a frame on top of the dialog you want disabled and EnableMouse it =P
23:02.12hyperChipmunkblizz does it all the time
23:12.49CIA-1103neronix * r5460 10FuBar_NavigatorFu/NavigatorFu.lua: NavigatorFu - Minor optimisation by doing less formats
23:22.10Tupladcladhaire or Kyahx, whoever is updating PerfectRaid :D could you add a lock command to it ?
23:23.25MikmaNO! it's impossible at this stagee
23:24.14Tupladno shit ?
23:24.21Mikmayes, shit
23:24.25Tuplad:(
23:24.39Tupladexplain :D
23:24.50Mikmai think i will name my next character after you, tuplad
23:24.50Tupladno !
23:24.50Mikmai will call it "Assmore"
23:24.52Tupladmy name is unique :D
23:24.57Tuplad¬_¬
23:25.01Tuplad~whalestab Mikma
23:25.04purlACTION stabs Mikma with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
23:25.18Tuplads
23:25.22Mikmana
23:25.27Mikmai made it simple
23:25.31Tupladyou cant dodge THE montgomery!
23:25.34Mikmaso you can understand it too ;)
23:25.39Tuplad-_-
23:25.44Mikmamehehe
23:25.48Neronix~whalesquash Tuplad
23:25.49purlACTION runs out the way as a whale of biblical size named Gordo lands on Tuplad
23:25.55TupladO_O
23:26.05Mikmahaha
23:26.09Neronixyou can't dodge THE Gordo!
23:26.10cladhaireTuplad: Is Kya working on it?
23:26.17TupladI feel abused ¬_¬
23:26.20Tupladcladhaire: he just upped a version
23:26.45KyahxI just merged the changes from Lucan's branch with the growup feature hC added
23:26.51Kyahxand attempted to add a texture option :P
23:26.52Tuplad<PROTECTED>
23:26.52Tuplad<PROTECTED>
23:26.52Tuplad<PROTECTED>
23:27.09Tupladlucan or lucen ?
23:27.19Kyahxdunno, I probley spelled it wrong
23:27.33Tuplad:\
23:27.34Mikmaseplled waht?
23:27.41Tupladwell it might be lucan, dont know
23:27.48Tupladbut if it's lucen ... I luv his unitframes :(
23:27.49NeronixIt's definitely Lucen
23:28.00Mikmateh leis
23:28.07Tupladhe said he was making something like haste
23:28.10Mikmais't lucen
23:28.13hastewhat?
23:28.34Kyahxhmmm
23:28.37Tupladhaste: remember ages ago ...
23:28.43Tupladhaste: when you and lucen were using AceUnitFrames ?
23:28.52hasteYes, it was: Who will release the standalone frames first?
23:28.56Tupladhaste: and Lucen told me that you and him were working an an independent version
23:29.00TupladOo
23:29.04hasteWill it be Lucen or will it be Haste?!
23:29.10Tuplad<PROTECTED>
23:29.18KyahxWhat's going on?!?!
23:29.19TupladI like that style, been using it with discord :]
23:29.20hasteLucen hasn't been here since that discussion
23:29.22haste~seen lucen
23:29.33purllucen <n=Lucen@pool-68-237-211-4.ny325.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 54d 3h 4m 26s ago, saying: 'howdy'.
23:29.33Tupladhahaha
23:29.37TupladI think purl wasnt born then
23:29.41Tuplad:o
23:29.47Tupladmaybe he lost his inet connection ? :p
23:29.57hastefor 60 days :p ?
23:30.07Tuplad55!
23:30.15Kyahx54!!
23:30.18Tupladna'ah
23:30.21Tuplad54.3.4.26
23:30.33hastehis still active on the forums however
23:30.44hasteyou can poke him there with a PM I guess
23:31.04Tuplad:o
23:31.12Tuplad[AceHeal v1.2] : AceHeal XRaid Frames extention - why xraid ?
23:31.36cladhairenice
23:31.45cladhaireKyahx: Feel free to hack at it
23:31.49cladhaireespecially if it fixes issues =)
23:32.03Kyahxwell, mainly was working on getting the textures working :P
23:32.11Tupladcladhaire: you dont develop PR anymore ?
23:32.13KyahxIt works, just wont instantly change when you change settings =/
23:32.16cladhairei do
23:32.19Tuplad:0
23:32.22cladhairebut its 2nd on my list
23:32.26cladhaireso i haven't recently
23:32.28TupladClique #1 ?
23:32.40Tuplad!need /praid lock :(
23:33.05Tupladclique is nice, gonna try it out one day :p
23:33.06cladhaireso code a praid lock
23:33.08cladhaireits trivial =)
23:33.21cladhairei'm coding somethign else at the moment :P
23:33.23Tupladcladhaire: there are 2 types of people - coders and users.
23:33.25hyperChipmunkanyone else's KCI broker autofill use vendor mode, regardless of what you have set?
23:33.38TupladhyperChipmunk: works fine here
23:33.38KyahxI could probley add a lock while alt-tabbed during this MC run...
23:33.40Kyahxlol
23:33.46cladhairewe're in bwl
23:33.48cladhaireso its a bit more difficult =)
23:33.53Kyahxhehe
23:33.53Tuplad:D
23:34.09hyperChipmunkis it supposed to show something other than 'Vendor' next to the auction box, or is that a different setting
23:34.12*** join/#wowace Tain (n=tain@ip68-109-29-175.ri.ri.cox.net)
23:34.36TupladHmm, I've seen this mouse gestures addon once - is it like Clique but with mouse movements ?
23:35.51cladhairemeh kinda
23:36.05TupladHmmm :o
23:36.09*** join/#wowace Wobin (n=Wobin@218-214-59-86.people.net.au)
23:38.48hyperChipmunkkael keeps trying to sell my direwing legguards for 5g =(
23:39.13hyperChipmunk2g bid =x
23:40.20KyahxTuplad: /script PerfectRaid.master:SetMovable(false)
23:41.07Kyahx:)
23:41.32CIA-1103cladhaire * r5461 10Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua:
23:41.32CIA-11AceDebug:
23:41.32CIA-11* Added SetDebugLevel, GetDebugLevel, LevelDebug and CustomLevelDebug
23:41.32CIA-11* Level 1: Very high overview debug messages, i.e. plugins loading, etc.
23:41.32CIA-11* Level 2: Local debug information, i.e. function calls, etc.
23:41.32CIA-11* Level 3: Very verbose debug level, will show everything.
23:41.46*** join/#wowace ckknight (i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com)
23:41.46*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
23:41.55cladhaireckknight: Evening
23:42.03ckknighthey all
23:42.05ckknightI'm back
23:42.08KyahxHey ckk
23:42.14cladhairewb
23:42.21haste~hug ckknight
23:42.22purlACTION hugs ckknight
23:42.29ckknightwhy all the love?
23:42.32hasteno idea
23:42.55Kyahxwhy not?
23:42.58ckknightand why's purl have an _
23:42.59ckknight?
23:43.29hyperChipmunkhe got d/ced yesterday
23:43.35hyperChipmunkhasn't changed back yet
23:43.47mjcag`: ping
23:45.42Mikmagah
23:45.47Mikmastupid server booted me out
23:49.12mjc~seen ag`
23:49.22purlag` is currently on #wowi-lounge (10h 39m 16s) #wowace (10h 39m 16s). Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 1h 56m 39s, last said: 'for i = 1,40 do if lowhealth then cast heal end'.
23:49.58Mikmaag`: stop idling, people need your love
23:51.53Tupladnice one Kyahx :O
23:52.22Kyahxadding the toggle is the *harder* part (Allthou still relatively easy)
23:52.53Tupladhm
23:52.59TupladI remember the good old Counter Strike scripting days
23:53.05Tupladtoggling was the easy part :D
23:53.37Tuplad+command1 { lock command }
23:53.38Tuplad-command2 { unlock command }
23:53.38Tupladbind "button" "+command1"
23:54.16Mikmai just realized i don't need any extra slashcommands for Bartender ace2 :P only one will do
23:54.57CIA-1103cladhaire * r5462 10Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua: AceDebug: Fixed a typo in LevelDebug
23:58.29CIA-1103cladhaire 07Unstable * r5463 10Clique/Clique/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
23:58.29CIA-11Clique:
23:58.29CIA-11* Updated all debug messages to :LevelDebug() using the newest AceDebug
23:58.29CIA-11* Level 1 messages will tell you which plugins are loaded, and other trivial information
23:58.29CIA-11* Level 2 will give you function calls and other sequence information
23:58.30CIA-11* Level 3 will spam your chat, but give you the information we need to diagnose issues-- in theory.
23:58.48TupladMikma: 1 ?!
23:58.52Tupladwhat about scaling foo' ?
23:59.12cladhaireKyahx: Where is the PR you updated, trunk?
23:59.30Kyahxyep
23:59.33cladhairek
23:59.44cladhaireyou sure?
23:59.45MikmaTuplad: foo'? whatta foo' are you talking about
23:59.50KyahxI believe so
23:59.52cladhairetrunk shows no updates for me today

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