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00:02.20TekkubI need to get a proper fileserver set up and get all our miscshit sorted out
00:02.28Tekkuband all our music put in one place
00:04.37Mikkwoot. SVN RSS feed.
00:04.44MikkI'm liking this SVN =)
00:06.27Mikmaag`: shift+rightclick = menu?
00:06.54*** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce5.disney.com)
00:10.38hasteargh
00:10.44hasteWTS 35% mount speed :/
00:15.10haste-25% movement speed + dazed + CoEX = evil
00:18.28AmadeoCoEX is very situational
00:18.34Amadeoif you get lucky enough to cast it first, you can do well
00:18.40Amadeousually you don't
00:18.54*** join/#wowace sedatedChipmunk (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com)
00:19.20Nightdewi love the idiots that run away from me and i get to slow them and curse them and just seem them dot to their knees
00:19.48hastewhat the fuck
00:19.55hastea L50 mob crited my rogue for 590?!
00:20.14hastethat's 1/4th of my total HP (well, almost)
00:23.24Nightdewmust have pissed him off
00:24.50*** join/#wowace Tekcub (n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net)
00:26.44*** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)
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00:29.09ag`Tem, what do you mean? It hides the target fine
00:29.17ag`oh, you mean the blizzard target?
00:29.20ag`I should fix that
00:29.24Tem...
00:29.28Temlol
00:29.42Temfor now, I will continue to type TargetFrame.Show = function() end
00:29.45Temeverytime I login
00:29.58ag`I will fix it now
00:30.30Temwhat have you been doing to not see it?
00:30.48Mikmaag`: i'm getting aguf menu when shift+rightbutton on Partymember4
00:31.01Thrae|Away~~yawn
00:31.05Kemayoag`: onload I get this:  Error: Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:335: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value)
00:32.03Kemayoand this every time I select someone:  Error: Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames.lua:150: attempt to index field `target' (a nil value)
00:32.53Tekcub~Dr. Who
00:32.55purlbwweeeeeooouuuuu
00:32.59ag`Kemayo, when did you check out
00:33.03*** part/#wowace Amadeo (i=zenon@c-69-244-74-206.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
00:33.05ag`and waht class do you play
00:33.19Mikmaag`: got it huh? ;)
00:33.36Mikmaag`: it's rather annoying :( prevent's me from shielding that partymember
00:33.41KemayoI checked out about five minutes ago, and I am a hunter.
00:34.57Tem~dr. tran
00:34.59purl"Q" is for Dr. Tran
00:35.30Temteehee
00:36.15KemayoI shall take this opportunity to level my priest, who doesn't get the errors.
00:42.13Mikmaag`: LOL nice 'bug'
00:42.32Mikmaag`: when some mob has me as Target (ToT), and someone ie. saps the mob
00:43.27Mikmathe ToT quickly displays "MyName    DISCONNECTED" :D
00:46.45Kemayoag`, changing line 335 to the following seems to fix it:  and ((self.CanDispel[eClass] and self.CanDispel[eClass][type]) or aura == "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Holy_AshesToAshes") then
00:47.55Temag`, is agUF incomplete?
00:48.09Tempvp icons don't show at all for me
00:48.21Temand I can't seem to find raid groups at all
00:48.58Thrae|AwayI think agUF only deals with Party Frames?
00:49.11mjcit can do raid frames if you use a /script command
00:49.49Temaah
00:50.26ckknightback
00:50.36ckknightand now I'm certified to give First aid and CPR
00:50.54KyahxI instantly feel safer
00:51.03mjclol grats
00:51.13Thrae|Awayckknight completed IRL Triage Quest? :D
00:52.29ag`Tem, of course it is incomplete
00:52.51Temyes, I realize that was kind of a dumb question
00:53.17Temwhat I meant to ask was, "Can I make it show me pvp icons?"
00:55.29ckknightnot quite, I took a CPR & First Aid course
00:55.31ckknightirl
00:56.32Mikkwhat thrae said =P
00:56.49Mikkthe quest rewards are kind of pissy though
00:57.12Mikk"I completed the IRL Triage Quest and all I got was this piece of paper in a plastic folder"
00:57.31ThraeNo, I can see it. ckknight gained a level!
00:58.05MikkLol. Shoulda shouted DING!
00:58.42ckknighthehe.
00:58.51ckknightI was able to upgrade my First Aid profession
00:58.59ckknightnow I'm a Journeyman
00:59.03Mikkoo
00:59.18ckknighthehe.
00:59.27ckknightessentially
00:59.41ckknightgranted, I also took the military medic training previously
00:59.43hastearr... I'm in "smash keyboard into the screen" mood :(
01:01.46Industrialhaste, goto bed
01:01.47Industrial:P
01:01.56hasteI should :(
01:02.16ckknighteveryone should have some medical training, in my opinion
01:02.30ckknightyou're not going to use it, but at least if you had to, you could
01:02.31Industrialeveryone should have some military training, in my opinion
01:02.36ckknightI agree
01:02.57ckknight2 years in the military after high school would do so much for Americans
01:02.58Industrialstraigthen those street kids out
01:03.10ckknightI'm not talking going to war
01:03.16Industrialnop just training
01:03.24ckknightthough they should be able to elect to
01:03.25ThraeI got my CPR training in college.
01:03.41ckknightbut just getting training
01:03.49ckknightboth males and females, too, I'd say
01:03.53Industrialyea
01:04.25Industrialfatties get slim
01:04.30ckknighthells yea
01:04.31Industrialeveryone stop eating mcdonalds
01:04.32ThraeEspecially if you get to partner up with the opposite sex (or same sex if that's your thing) and "practice mouth-to-mouth ressucitation"
01:04.34Industrialthe world is saved!
01:04.37Industrialhaleluja!
01:04.39Industrial:)
01:04.42ckknightThrae, I don't think so
01:04.51ckknightit'd be more likely that they should be split up
01:04.59ckknightand meeting only on special occassions
01:05.02ckknightor whatnot
01:05.07Industrialpyisicals, anyway
01:05.30ckknightit'd also probably drop the rate of teen pregnancy and such as well ;-)
01:05.36Industrialhehe
01:05.52ThraeThat's just unfair! Then the homosexuals have all the fun =/
01:05.53Nightdewoh please
01:06.00ckknightI guess, Thrae
01:06.13IndustrialOh and then one more thing for the absolute salvation of america (well theres more but lets do babysteps)
01:06.27ckknightI was more talking about by putting them through training, they'd be more responsible
01:06.36Industrialalthough its a bit controversial to what i just said
01:06.39Industrialforbid guns
01:06.42Industrialperiod
01:06.45ckknightno
01:06.50ckknightdon't take away my goddamn guns!
01:07.03Industrialno guns sxcept for in the force and police
01:07.05ckknightI have to protect myself from the government with them.
01:07.06ckknightno!
01:07.16ckknightwhat if the police are evil?
01:07.22ckknightor the government?
01:07.24Industrialthey aren't
01:07.26ckknighthow do you protect yourself
01:07.29Nightdewwhat yall need to do is reverse this bs of being able to drive a car before you can drink
01:07.31ckknightyes they are, in America.
01:07.38Industrialoh that too
01:07.40Industrialcar -> 18
01:07.45Industrialmotor -> 21
01:07.47Nightdewin holland
01:07.48ThraeIf the government and police are evil, you can get the guns illegally
01:07.54Nightdewyou can drink at 16..
01:07.58Nightdewdrive a car at 18
01:08.03Nightdewby the time ur 18
01:08.05ckknightThrae, there shouldn't be laws preventing it in the first place.
01:08.10Nightdewthe whole fun of drinking is over
01:08.19ckknighthey Kaelten
01:08.24Kaeltenhows it goin?
01:08.31mjchey you
01:08.37IndustrialNightdew, I'm 19 and its still fun to get pissed - especially with friends
01:08.41IndustrialxD
01:08.47Nightdewbecause its illegal
01:08.50ckknightI'm 18 and I don't drink
01:08.51KebinusanIs anyone else disappointed at the shaman/paladin thing with the newraces
01:08.52Nightdewa thril
01:08.54Nightdewl
01:09.02IndustrialI am
01:09.06KaeltenI am
01:09.07ckknightKebinusan, hrm?
01:09.10Kaeltena elvish paladin?
01:09.13Kaeltenwtf?
01:09.25ckknightlink
01:09.27Kebinusanyeah blood elf paladin
01:09.32hasteKebinusan: Kebinusan:
01:09.33haste0304.35| [@          haste] Yes, fetch more shamans!
01:09.33ckknightwtf.
01:09.33haste0304.38| [@          haste] so mine can rot
01:09.35KebinusanDranei Shaman
01:09.39Nightdewwerent they supposed to be evil
01:09.45Nightdewwouldnt it be a deathguard?
01:09.50ckknightnot evil, just drug addicts
01:09.56ThraeI thought Blood Elves were Horde, how can they be Paladins?
01:09.57Industrialno, a Blood Knight
01:10.00Industrial:P
01:10.03Nightdewlol
01:10.07Kaeltendranei shamans are more belivable than elvish paladins
01:10.10Kebinusanhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/townhall/classcombo.html
01:10.26IndustrialKaelten, id say the other way around actually
01:11.03Kaeltenhrm, regardless, I think it looses something in the game that way
01:11.09IndustrialDont see dranei in that much of a link with nature
01:11.34Industrialand blood elves were high elves so the light fits them more then the elements do dranei
01:11.40Industrialimho
01:11.47ckknightDraenei were Shamans long back
01:11.52ThraeThe origin of Shamans are from Warlocks, and I can definately see the Dranei becoming Shamans after they wrestled away from the Burning Legion
01:11.52Kaeltenplus we've all grown to hate the opposites so much that its going to be weird sing shaman on the alliance
01:11.56Industrialorly?
01:11.59Industrial:o
01:12.04ckknightThrae, other way around.
01:12.32KaeltenThrae: shamans are nature attuned, the orcs where shamans before the burning legion came into view.
01:12.49Industrialand then tauren?
01:12.52Industrialthe*
01:12.53Mikmaag`: i really hope you get to see what's going on with the shift+rightclick on PartyMember4
01:12.59Mikmaag`: it's _REALLY_ annoying
01:13.05Kaeltenand the orcs and dranie shared the same planet at that phase
01:13.33ag`Mikma, all units are the same
01:13.46ag`I blame it on clad
01:14.23ckknightfrankly, I agree with Bliz's decision to have pallies on Horde and shammies on Alliance
01:14.46MikkO.O
01:15.11ThraeExcept that Paladins > Shamans in PvE and PvP according to most people
01:15.38MikkPvE? Pallies need ankhs =P
01:15.40ThraeShamans are good in solo PvP, but Paladins are arguably the best healbots in PvP
01:15.48Industrialwell ckknight, what I can't understand is that undead priests have holy spells. shouldnt they be all but holy?
01:16.08ckknightI'd say no
01:16.09Nightdewits mislabled perhaps
01:16.15Nightdewbut evil can stil heal
01:16.15CIA-1103ag * r5315 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Defaults.lua ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
01:16.15CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
01:16.15CIA-11<PROTECTED>
01:16.16CIA-11<PROTECTED>
01:16.18Mikmaag`: well, can you atleast have a look at it? since it's rather annoying to get the menu open all the time when shift+click on the last partymember
01:16.21ckknightyes, it is mislabled
01:16.25Industrialand where does the priest dark energy come from
01:16.29Kaeltenwell the undead are technically the scourge with a soul  so
01:16.29Industrialnot from the light..
01:16.45Industrial^^
01:16.49ag`Mikma, what menu. THere's no menu related to the shift button.
01:17.11Kaeltenmaybe its the soul that makes them able to use holy magic
01:17.46Kebinusanmight as well just phase out shaman
01:18.53ag`Go ahead, search through all my code. IsShiftKeyDown is not there, so I'm not doing anything wrong Mikma
01:18.56Kebinusanso far they've said they have no intention of increasing the raid size beyond 40.. I can see maybe a token shaman for the dps group but I dont really see them having a huge spot in raids, plus it kind of dilutes the loot pool even more
01:19.00ckknightbut I mean, the Forsaken and the Scourge are not the same
01:19.00ckknightScourge are obviously evil
01:19.00ckknightForsaken are just misplaced
01:19.42MikkKebinusan: Shammy healing no good in raids?
01:19.43Mikmaag`: well i'll still show you my lovely ss
01:19.49ag`I don't know ckknight, did you listen to the forsaken intro when you create a character?
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01:20.04KebinusanMikk, I think I'd take a paladin over a shaman if I needed healing
01:20.31ckknight_and on Horde, the only people that need to worry about mail/plate are Warriors
01:20.44ckknight_whereas on Alliance, both Wars and Pals need to fight over it
01:20.44MikkYeah but a +600 healing spells paladin outheals EVERYTHING, so that's an irrelevant statement imo =)
01:20.54Mikmaag`: http://wow.reaktio.net/agmenu.jpg .. this happens when i shift+rightclick on partymember4
01:21.54Thraeckknight: Shamans can use Mail?
01:22.26KaeltenThrae: yes they can at 40
01:22.28ag`Mikma, disable clique... I bet it won't happen anymore
01:23.38ThraeAt least all that BoP Paladin and Shaman gear won't go to waste, and the BoE stuff not get gouged by Gadget AH
01:25.59ckknight_yea
01:27.31Mikmaag`: well something is still doing it
01:28.55hasteThrae: Naxx is a token system, and so will the next instances be
01:28.56Mikmaag`: and this is only with clique and aguf :) so it's up to you and clad|dinner to fix it ;D
01:30.40ThraeThat's true haste, but that doesn't negate all the stuff beforehand
01:31.00hasteThrae: well, it's only BWL and MC that doesn't use it
01:31.04Kebinusanmeh, just means less nexus crystals too
01:31.23Kebinusansince you cant DE the pieces
01:31.30ThraeToken systems are cool though. Not having to wait for a 5% drop is awesome.
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01:32.06KebinusanI dont know I think its pretty messed up in naxx
01:32.17ThraeWell, the -idea- is cool.
01:32.33Kebinusanyou have rogues and warriors competing for the same pieces, priests, mages, and warlocks... then hunters, druids, shaman, paladins,
01:34.06mjchearthsinger foresten drops magister boots now
01:34.39Mikkmm. there number of people with the Piccolo From Hell is increasing
01:34.44Mikks/there/the/
01:35.09ThraeHmm, this guys has a full, untrimed beard on Monk. He must be the killer!
01:35.47Tekcubmmmm..... beardyhead...
01:36.07Mikmaaye Tekcub, fur
01:36.38mjcmm fur
01:42.06Tekcubo/~ Light up, light up.  As i fyou have a choice, even if you cannot hear my voice, I'll be right beside you dear. o/~
01:43.33hasteGod damn the black night, with all its foul temptations - I've become what I always hated when I was with you then
01:44.39Neronix`outI think I used to be someone, now I just stare into the sun
01:44.48Neronix`sleepnight
01:46.11MikkUm whoa? FontString:GetWidth() returns how long the text wants to paint and not the actual region width?
01:46.51ThraeMikk: You are correct sir. It's the same as FontString:GetStringWidth AFAIK
01:46.58*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
01:47.03MikkThat's just evil
01:47.06ThraeMikk: I had allll kinds of problems until I figured that out
01:48.57MikkSo why the hell can't GetHeight() return how HIGH it wants to paint? =P
01:49.57ThraeGetHeight can change if you manually set the width, breaking the text
01:52.57Mikk?
01:53.06MikkMaybe not if I've already set GetHeight then
01:53.30Mikkerr done SetHeight i mean
01:54.26Mikkahh lookie
01:54.50MikkAnd I really do have to SetWidth. Just computing it from SetPoint(TOPLEFT), SetPoint(TOPRIGHT) doesn't work
01:55.28ThraeWell yeah, then it should adhear to your set height. But the default is the font height for GetHeight and StringWidth for Width.
01:55.44TemhyperChipmunk,  you around?
01:55.57MikkThrae: Whoops, this only works for 2 lines
01:56.06MikkIf I add a 3rd line, it truncates
01:56.16ThraeThe width can change if you change NoSpaceWrap depending on your set height.
01:57.28MikkUmm no wait I take that back
01:57.34MikkOk this is seriously confusing
01:57.55MikkIt will obey TOPLEFT + TOPRIGHT for what width is actually used to paint
01:57.59Tekcubo/~ bumbahdum ... bumbahdum ... bumbahdum ... Maybe I'm a lion o/~
01:58.09MikkAnd then use SetWidth to compute how many lines it needs
01:58.32MikkIf for some reason the physical dimensions can't hold that, (RIGHT-LEFT < Width), it'll truncate
01:59.33Thraehttp://pastebin.ca/95487 <-- this is code from a lib I was working on a while back, data["_f"] is the main frame
02:00.10ThraeMikk: I think I solved the problems I was having with FontStrings back then
02:00.25MikkAnd if the width<5, it'll always go single line
02:00.43Mikk(And paint as much as the ACTUAL physical dimensions allow)
02:01.39ThraeYeah, I think I had to manually set "RIGHT" to the edge of the frame to make sure it doesn't go over the frame.
02:02.40MikkHm no, SetWidth will keep it from painting more than SetWidth
02:03.22ThraeExcept I believe it'll truncate instead of allowing proper linebreaks
02:04.02MikkNope
02:04.21MikkAt least not these days
02:05.53MikkThis deserves a thorough writeup
02:06.34Mikmalol
02:06.35Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1727.msg31281.html#msg31281
02:07.45mjc"Sapped girls can't say no!"
02:08.07Mikmahahaha
02:08.34Nightdewis there an effective way to tell that a button clicked.. therefore executing UseAction.. is a spell
02:09.04MikkEverything is a spell
02:09.11Nightdew..?
02:09.16Nightdewit can be a macro as well
02:09.28Nightdewdont know what else it can be
02:09.30ThraeNow, please everyone try to break TinyTip for me so I can fix the bugs and release v1.4 soon.
02:09.33MikkTrue.. it can be several things
02:09.46Nightdewso spell, macro and what else?
02:09.47MikkSpells, macros, items to wear, items to USE
02:10.09TemhyperChipmunk, I get a shitstorm of errors in AB that have no error message whenever the shouts happen
02:10.30Temcould that be Glorylib?
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02:12.50Mikkckknight_: here's a random idea. get a shell account on some box and run irc in a screen there
02:13.15ckknight_here's another random idea: penguins wearing tophats
02:13.28Neronix`sleepMikma: The guy called himself Gamefaq. That explains everything
02:13.28Mikk(though if your link is as laggy as it is unreliable that might suck merrily)
02:13.35ThraeI use screen myself for irssi, and switch between my Linux box and Windows box
02:13.40Neronix`sleepI'm preparing a carefully-worded ninja-insult
02:13.50ThraeWindows box + PuTTy
02:13.52Mikkckknight_: oooo, mind if i snag that? :-P
02:14.04*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
02:14.09ckknightanyways, I like XChat
02:14.23MikkRun that somewhere else then? =)
02:14.38ThraeVNC / FreeNX baby
02:14.55MikkNah, X is all about running apps on different machines anyway =)
02:15.11mjcirssi.
02:15.35ThraeExcept Windows freeware X servers suck.
02:15.50ThraeIf you have another Linux box, then by all means!
02:15.56kergoththe cygwin one gets the job done
02:16.14MikkI just wish they'd change the X client/server network thinking around
02:16.24MikkIt's so bloody busted for firewalls and NATs
02:16.35Neronix`sleepIf the Cygwin one can REPLACE explorer, like all those fancy shell replacements can
02:16.44Neronix`sleepthen maybe I'll switch to gnome or something
02:17.08ThraeNeronix`sleep: coLinux!
02:17.13Mikk(Though arguably, that's precisely what VNC is doing...)
02:17.43Neronix`sleepThrae: I'll have a look at that, thanks
02:17.58ThraecoLinux == run a Linux kernel along side your Windows kernel
02:18.17MikkO.O
02:18.29kergothheh, vnc is quite inefficient though, just given the way it works
02:18.32kergothcolinux rocks
02:18.35kergothso fast
02:18.38ThraeI think kergoth turned me on to it.
02:18.39kergothcompared to cygwin anyway :P
02:19.34Neronix`sleephow does booting up colinux solely to get a bash console up quickly compare to opening cygwin bash?
02:19.45Neronix`sleeper, rephrase
02:19.47Thraekergoth: xvnc is pretty good for a LAN if you tweak both the server and client
02:19.52Neronix`sleephow does booting up colinux solely to get a bash console up quickly, compare to opening cygwin bash?
02:20.34ThraeNeronix`sleep: There wouldn't be any "booting up", it runs along side the Windows kernel. The Linux kernel itself is relatively tiny.
02:20.58kergoththere is booting up, just mostly likely you'd do that in the background as a service or something, just leave it running
02:21.06ThraeRight
02:21.13kergothi prefer using putty to connect to the local colinux myself, as the colinux console apps suck
02:22.36ThraeThere's some cool screenshots on the coLinux place of people setting it up so it looks like Gnome or KDE became integrated into Windows, they put its bar on the top ;)
02:23.34Neronix`sleepSounds too overly complicated for the odd occasion when I want to open bash
02:23.53Neronix`sleepAnd: "coLinux currently doesn't support running an X server that requires a graphic adapter, because such virtual adapter doesn't exist at the moment. If you want to use X, you can run a Windows X server such as Cygwin/X, and launch an X session across the virtual network."
02:23.58Neronix`sleepNo thanks =/
02:24.37Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1614.msg31356.html#msg31356
02:25.29MikmaNeronix`sleep: well i was referring to this comment: "Tekkub, do you ever regret creating Warmup?"
02:26.46Neronix`sleepYeah, it's supposed to just give a very, very rough idea of memory usage
02:27.24Neronix`sleepand now the 3.25billion people who are dumber than the average person (Statistically correct) treat it as gospel truth
02:28.09Neronix`sleepIt's a cat that escaped from a non-existant bag, and then mutated
02:29.05CIA-1103kaelten * r5316 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua OneCore.lua templates.xml): OneBag - Added in an option to change the direction of bags shown
02:29.18CIA-1103kaelten * r5317 10OneBank/ (OneBank.lua OneBank.xml): OneBank - Added in an option to change the direction of bags shown
02:30.02KaeltenThere is one of the requests I had
02:31.16ThraeWarmup should come with a disclaimer at the end of its listing - "This is only a rough estimate of each addon's memory usage upon initial load-up, and may be more or less then indicated."
02:31.35Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/pirate.jpg
02:31.39Mikks/may be/is probably/
02:31.42Mikmahave a look of the chat ;)
02:31.45Mikmasee my comment hehe
02:33.23ThraeHow about "This is only a rough estimate of each addon's memory usage upon initial load-up, and the amount an addon takes up in memory may be more or less then indicated. The load times are pretty accurate."
02:33.52Mikmaoh yeah right
02:33.57Mikmahere's a winner!
02:33.57Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/myfaceismeltinginlava.jpg
02:35.28Mikmaoh yeah had a nice run.. 5x righteous orbs
02:38.31KyahxMikma: wtf
02:38.45Kyahxodd SS
02:39.01CIA-1103neronix * r5318 10EarPlug/ (Earplug.lua Earplug.toc):
02:39.01CIA-11EarPlug
02:39.01CIA-11- Saved vars are back
02:39.01CIA-11- Fixed reset
02:39.01CIA-11- Added /ep basic: Adds lfg, lfm and lf%dm to the pattern list
02:39.06Neronix`sleepMikk: There you go
02:41.07MikmaKyahx: screenshot about what?
02:41.13Kyahxthat face
02:41.20Kyahxmessed up textureing
02:41.33Mikmaoh "odd" not "add"
02:41.42Kyahxindeed
02:41.43Mikmayeah that happens with mac's sometimes :)
02:41.44Kyahx:)
02:41.46Mikmawait, waaaaait..
02:42.21Mikmahttp://mikma.homelinux.net/wow3/
02:42.22Mikma:D
02:42.44Mikma(may not work properly with firefox, use opera or something else to see BIG pictures)
02:42.54ThraeI remember when...I think it was the Wildheart helmet...had a tiny little human face texture right below its top
02:43.14ThraeIf you zoomed in enough on your SS, you could see it grinning back at you. Very spooky :D
02:43.56Mikmahttp://mikma.homelinux.net/wow3/?sivu=full&pg=5
02:44.02Mikmathere's a better url..
02:44.19MikmaSeuraava = next ..
02:44.40mjcckknight: around?
02:44.45ckknightyea
02:45.10Kyahxheh
02:45.13KyahxEtchASketch?
02:45.23mjcup for ZG on my mage? or not enough time
02:45.29MikkKyahx: in-game ui editor in the works
02:45.30MikmaKyahx: i'm giving it a go now :D
02:45.38MikmaMikk: hope it works ;)
02:45.40Kyahxhmmm
02:45.58KyahxPvP is makeing me bored =(
02:46.13Mikmalol, Bulkmail -Ace2- depency missing ACEGUI
02:46.21MikkMikma: If you're hoping on actually designing something for an addon, you're in for a disappointment
02:46.38MikmaMikk: nope i'm just hoping to give it a go to see what's it like
02:46.43Mikkokay =)
02:46.59Mikmai have a interest of looking through new addons ;)
02:47.28Mikmawow
02:49.20MikkThere's so much missing =/
02:49.29MikkLike being able to drag stuff around
02:49.35Mikmawell the start looks good
02:49.48MikkHeh. Thanks =)
02:50.08Mikmaall the flashing things makes my ... drip something
02:50.37Mikmahttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1731.0.html
02:50.43Mikmawell i guess someone had to do it
02:52.11ckknightmjc, nah, I have an hour till dinner
02:52.18mjcah, k
02:52.38ckknightI mean, it's a 15-minute stop now
02:52.48ckknightbut still
02:52.59ckknightalso, I'm not on wireless, so no d/c ;-)
02:53.07Mikmaso, will there be a broadcast-feature on bigwigs? :D
02:53.27Mikmai'm planning on putting it to my GF's comp so i can see raidwarnings even when i'm far away
02:57.32Mikma~wtf diy
02:58.01Mikk~wtf wtf
02:58.17Nightdewdeformat will handle the globalstring.lua entries?
02:58.19Industrialwhen whom
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02:58.23Industrial:P
02:58.28Nightdewwhen using gratuity?
02:58.32snurremoo
02:58.44Industrialmoo. are you happy now?
02:59.05ckknightNightdew, :FindDeformat ftw.
02:59.15snurreIndustrial: indeed
02:59.17Nightdewi know.. not the question
02:59.17snurrei r drunk thpo
02:59.19ckknightI use it in DurabilityFu
02:59.28Industrialsnurre, \o/
02:59.38ckknightDeformat will handle all format strings in GlobalStrings.lua
02:59.42Industrialsnurre, you had to see cairenn that one time
02:59.43Nightdewty
02:59.43ckknightno matter the locale.
02:59.55Industrialshe was all like
03:00.02Industrialasdf uuer jncxz ppwer laslasd
03:00.07Industrial=P
03:01.14snurrelawl
03:01.19snurredrunk ftw
03:01.29snurretrying to talk this rl friend of mine into learning addons
03:01.44snurreanother one of those "addons is bad mkay" type
03:02.11ThraeLearning how to install addons can be a big step. Right up there with how to do a Google Search.
03:03.38Thrae"OK, so if I want to find a Florist in Maryland for a Wedding, I type in 'flowers wedding arrange maryland shop porn', right?"
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03:05.33snurretrying to convince him that the 100ish applications loaded when i log in might not be as nasty as it seems  :p
03:05.35Mikkomg, googling "porn" actually produced something
03:05.50snurre0.1 kb/s gc and 30mb mem load
03:05.51Mikki thought it'd be another one of those "this is too common and has been excluded from your search" =P
03:05.56Tekcubpeople need more descriptive initial commit notes
03:06.02Tekcub*glares at Mikk*
03:06.03ckknight_I hate this damn island's crappy bandwidth
03:06.30MikkTekcub: Mm. Yeah, it didn't strike me until a few seconds after I slammed enter >.<
03:06.39Tekcubwhateva!
03:07.54ThraeCome on now Tekcub, we all need to get used to SVN. And CIA is deceptive, makes you think the addon's directory is added into the commit notes.
03:08.07MikkTHAT bit i didn't miss
03:08.26MikkIt has "EtchASketch" prefixed all nicely n all
03:08.35ThraeI've never used SVN or CVS before ^^;;
03:08.46Tekcubuse tort? you can set a commit note template :)
03:08.54MikkIt's just that the comment after doesn't really describe the mod...  it just says "initial import" and that it's in pre-alpha condition
03:09.29Tekcubyea I ususally do "Initial submission - A litte mod that does crap and shit for you"
03:11.03MikkSpeaking of... how about hacking up a little script that iterates over trunk/ and looks for comments in the toc files and posts that to the front page of http://svn.wowace.com/?
03:11.37Mikmaso anyone knows... is oRA2 working yet?
03:12.08Tekcubhrm... some sort of TOC-parsing script would be nice, yes
03:12.16Tekcubor just getting more people to use the Wiki
03:13.06Mikkbit of find+awk would do it nicely
03:13.38Mikkerhm.. depending on which db the wowace svn is using
03:13.45Nightdewstring.find("abc", "b") will return 2 correct?
03:13.54Mikkyes
03:14.05TekcubI wish the wiki had some sort of "Summary" tag you could stick on pages that would show up in the categroy indexes
03:14.18MikkTekcub: Yhea no kidding
03:14.31TainClerks 2 was sufficiently funny.
03:14.38TekcubI hate mediawiki's indexes, otherwise it's a kickass wiki
03:14.42NightdewTekcub: so then gratuity doesnt have a function to find an exact match
03:14.46Tekcubclerks two?
03:14.46Nightdew?
03:14.51IndustrialI wish wiki was more of a directory then just a collection of pages that have to link to eachother
03:15.00MikkTekcub: the question is if that doesn't actually exist as a plugin
03:15.02Tekcublern2regex :)
03:15.05MikkThere's plenty of fun stuff for mw
03:15.15Tekcubhrm... I assign you that task
03:15.19Tekcubnight....
03:15.21Nightdew..?
03:15.30Tekcub"^This is an exact match$"
03:15.52ThraeI thought regex ~= pattern matching?
03:16.01Nightdewcan add a simple additional parameter to Find
03:16.06Nightdewexact
03:16.23Nightdewi like ur lazy coding in Find too lol
03:16.24ThraeI think it was kergoth who blasted me for saying "string.find uses regexp"
03:16.36Tekcubwell do you need to find across many lines or just one specific line every time
03:16.44Tekcublike line2left == "Something"
03:17.14Nightdewmost likely one specific
03:17.16Nightdewi mean i do
03:17.25Nightdewi dont know if it would be useful for anyone else
03:17.33Tekcubwell you could just grab that line and compare instead of using find
03:17.40Tekcubbut yea sure, I can
03:18.01MikmaIndustrial: your addon sucks. (idChatPlayerNames) or something. clicking on items in chat won't work at all
03:18.19Nightdewi think its funny you use compost.. but lazy code a string.find twice instead of temp storing the vars ;)
03:18.27IndustrialMikma, you suck go fix it
03:18.40Tekcubthe string.find only fires twice if there's a match :)
03:18.45MikmaIndustrial: nah, i disabled it and am happy about my decision
03:18.54IndustrialMikma, good for you!
03:18.58Tekcuband gratuity doesn't require compost, so I don't want to make a table there...
03:19.30Mikmayeap, no more buggy chats, i can click items once again :)
03:20.00Mikmamjc: yeah try deleting the idChatPlayerNames.lua, that was my problem when clicking on the items
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03:20.09NightdewTekcub: thanks for making that change
03:20.21Nightdewnot yet comfortable enough with svn to do so
03:20.24Tekcubyea... whenever I get to it
03:20.24mjcMikma: yeah but I want those features :(
03:20.33Nightdewlol
03:20.34Nightdewj
03:20.36Nightdewk
03:20.46Tekcubhint: put a feature request on mah WoWI portal so I don't forget
03:21.21Mikmamjc: i chose clicking on the items
03:21.33mjc:P
03:29.27kergothi like this ancient addon that gives you an item tooltip when mousing over an item link in chat.  screw clicking
03:35.02ThraeIs there an easy way to tell what spell ranks people have? Anyone know of an example addon?
03:35.43Kyahxranks that players have?
03:35.51ThraeYeah.
03:36.32Nightdewthat reminds me
03:36.44KebinusanThrae whats TinyTipExtras
03:36.57Nightdewdoes anyone know the exact logic on what rank and therefore associated level can be casted on other players?
03:37.38ThraeKebinusan: All the extra, more "bloated" features of TinyTip. It's LoadOnDemand so you can safely download it and forget about it if you don't use any of its options.
03:37.39kergothKebinusan: adds the fancy stuff like showing target of mouseover and all that
03:37.41Nightdewlike a rank 5 fort cant be cast on a lvl 6 player
03:38.30ThraeKebinusan: LoadOnDemand == File itself is not loaded unless LoadAddOn is called.
03:39.52MikkTekcub: Meh. There's lots of page listing addons but nothing capable of pulling a description from the page itself
03:39.55Kebinusangotcha
03:48.22ThraeDoes %d with string.format just cut off the decimal place without a given percision, or does it floor or ceil it?
03:50.01ckknightfloor
03:50.19ckknightwhich is just truncating it to the decimal place
03:50.22ThraeYeah, thought so.
03:50.23ThraeRight.
03:50.29hyperChipmunkthat's kind of the s...yea
03:51.17Kebinusanhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4587-1-anzac-holdem.html
03:51.24KebinusanI think this is going to be alot of fun in raids
03:51.55Wobinhehe cool
03:52.50CIA-1103thrae * r5319 10ThraeFuncs/ThraeDruid.lua:
03:52.50CIA-11ThraeFuncs - Renamed Thrae_DruidTotemKiller to Thrae_MF. Not only will this
03:52.50CIA-11function use a much lower rank Moonfire on totems, but it will also use your
03:52.50CIA-11highest rank Moonfire - 1 if your highest rank's Moonfire has already been
03:52.50CIA-11applied (omfg moonspam!)
03:53.36Icerothheh kewl :)
03:53.47Icerothi made a similar for myself some time ago
03:55.29ThraeIceroth: If you think there's anything that could be added to ThraeFuncs, by all means.
03:55.49ThraeIt's just a bunch of functions for macros, nothing expensive.
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04:02.11hasteNumber of times I have compiled Quake2 today: Uknown, but more then 30
04:02.20hasteUnknown*
04:04.00WobbleIndustrial: You've done a playername colour chat addon, haven't you?
04:06.13Industrialerrr
04:06.15Industrialnot yet
04:06.18IndustrialxD
04:06.27Wobbleoh =P
04:06.39WobbleI thought the idChatnamecolor or something was finished =)
04:07.43Industrialna :X
04:07.52Wobbleoh alrighty then
04:08.19IndustrialIt'l only color the class colors of players you know it of ofcource
04:08.25Industrialnot gunna send out any whos :>
04:11.34CIA-1103nightdew * r5320 10GratuityLib/Gratuity-2.0/Gratuity-2.0.lua:
04:11.34CIA-11Changed the method signature of Gratuity:Find to :Find(txt, startln, endln,
04:11.34CIA-11ignoreleft, ignoreright, exact). If exact is passed as true, the method will
04:11.34CIA-11only return values if one of the lines matches txt exactly, rather than txt
04:11.35CIA-11existing somewhere in a line.
04:12.10Nightdewwoohoo my first commit
04:12.30Tekcubyou lose!
04:12.42Nightdewlol?
04:12.49Tekcub"Modname - Commit notes"
04:12.51Tekcub:P
04:13.29hyperChipmunknice commit note, though
04:13.35mjc:P
04:13.42Tekcubyarr, just remember to tag with the mod name
04:13.51Nightdewits a lib though ;)
04:14.01Tekcuband if you subimt a new mod, for the love of jeebus have a descriptive first commit
04:14.48hyperChipmunkwe'll break your knees if you don't
04:14.52Tekcublern2speakcommon
04:15.09hyperChipmunkthe version control mafia will be on you
04:15.14Nightdewthats funny hyper.. because when i first came to america..
04:15.22Nightdewthe folks at Enron saw my first name...
04:15.28hyperChipmunkNight?
04:15.35hyperChipmunk=x
04:15.36NightdewI had the nick name "Kneebreaker" before i even joined lol
04:15.40hyperChipmunkhaha
04:15.42Wobble'Nightd'!
04:16.00hyperChipmunkah
04:16.01Nightdewlittle did they know that Guido in dutch is pronounced Heedo lol
04:16.08hyperChipmunkhaha guido
04:16.32WobbleIndustrial: Isn't that the point? (ie, raid colours)?
04:17.42Icerotheeeh.. furor is apparently still broken in prts
04:18.38Icerothdid they outsource their druid division to elbonia or wth is going on... can't be that hard to fix one single talent _that_wasn't_broken_in_the_first_place_
04:18.53ckknightPHP is teh devil
04:20.09WobbleIndustrial: So should I bother writing the playername colouring in chat, or just leave you to it?
04:20.25ThraeI know there has to be an algorithmn to determine what rank of spell to cast give the spell rank increment.
04:20.37Thraes/give/given/.
04:21.19IndustrialWobin, you can do it if you want, in fact im fine with it because its not my idea ;)
04:21.44Wobinwell it's not mine either =) But in case you had already started
04:23.12Industrialnop 0%
04:51.24Mikkhttp://www.wowwiki.com/UIOBJECT_FontString <- right, I've straightened it out now =)
04:53.58ThraeDammit I know there's an algorithmn to determine a spell's rank and level based on the player's level (assuming they have that rank)
04:54.30MikkHrms? There's addons that handle that
04:54.51clad|dinnerThrae: look in cliqueutils.lua
04:54.53Thrae6,14,24,34,44,54, there's a universal pattern here somewhere.
04:54.58clad|dinnerits not an algorithm, its hardcoded per spell
04:55.06Thraeclad|dinner: Does it use--yeah, I was trying to avoid that
04:55.08clad|dinnersince they all have different learning levels.
04:55.18clad|dinnerevery implementatino i've seen uses a lookup table =)
04:56.14ThraeI might as well use a lookup table and divide the player level by the size of the array.
04:56.27MikkBeh. I somehow enabled caret positioning inside the page in FF. It just popped up some bloody dialog that I managed to okay by just typing.
04:59.11Icerothyou probably hit "space" and the focus was on the ok button
04:59.14Icerothhappens :)
04:59.21Mikkwell yeah
04:59.28Mikkbut i have no idea how i managed the dialog popping up
05:00.00Icerothi don't know what key combo changes the keyboard language but i've managed to do that a couple of times
05:00.15Mikkalt-shift =)
05:00.57Icerothdoesn't work for me
05:02.27Mikkleft
05:02.50Mikkthough you need to actually have more than one keyboard design enabled
05:03.17Icerothwell that's the thing.. i usually don't and yet it changes that sometimes
05:03.45Mikki was bitten by something last week or so
05:03.54Mikksuddenly it installed four keyboard layouts
05:04.06Mikkno idea where they came from
05:04.20Mikki know for a fact i didn't do it because i make damn sure to have only a single layout when i install my machines
05:06.52NightdewThrae: What spell is that?
05:07.22ThraeNightdew: Thorns
05:10.57Iceroth"Note that you can never un-set a width or height once set. If you want to clear it, you need to create a new fonstring or reload the UI." :o
05:11.18Icerothno wonder my spell casting text acted weird
05:11.32MikkThat's from my observations anyway
05:11.43MikkYou can CHANGE the width
05:11.43Icerothhmm.. can you alter it though?
05:11.49MikkHmmm i need to rephrase that
05:13.11NightdewThrae
05:13.20NightdewThrae: got my messages?
05:14.55ThraeNightdew: lvlofspell - 10 SHOULD be true
05:15.19ThraeIt's just I was trying to avoid using a lookup table.
05:15.42Nightdewi know
05:15.45Nightdewi tried too lol
05:16.21Nightdewbut too many exceptions
05:16.29Nightdewlike AI
05:16.39Nightdew1, 14, 28, 42, 56
05:16.51Nightdew14 all the way.. except it starts at 1
05:17.14Nightdewor divingspirit
05:17.20Nightdew30, 42, 54, 60
05:17.25Nightdew12 except capped at 60
05:21.44KebinusanIs there an api call to get the a buff/debuff name, UnitDebuff looks like it doesnt return that info
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05:22.51ThraeKebinusan: Either hope the texture name is unique, or scan the tooltip.
05:23.15ThraeKebinusan: You can take a look at CliqueUtils or ThraeFuncs for a simple scanning function for buffs and debuffs.
05:24.45KebinusanYeah, I sort of had this idea for the Maexxna bigwigs module, I wanted to slap raid target icons on the three people who get web wrapped so they were easier to spot on the web
05:24.56Nightdewckknight: is there a major danger to make the library object not local?
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05:25.01Kebinusanso I was trying to figure out how to go about it
05:27.24Amadeobrb
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05:42.33ckknightNightdew, yes, don't do it.
05:43.00AmadeoThrae: The manabar doesn't seem to want to stay on (check is there, but doesn't display)
05:44.43Nightdewckknight: heh, why if you dont mind me asking.. just becomes this enormous file..
05:45.24CIA-1103thrae * r5321 10ThraeFuncs/ (Bindings.xml ThraeDruid.lua ThraeFuncs.lua):
05:45.24CIA-11ThraeFuncs - Fixed Bindings for Druid change. Changed Thrae_DruidBuff to use new
05:45.24CIA-11function ThraeFuncs_SmartBuff, dropping the AceHeal requirement. Added optional
05:45.24CIA-11"buff" or "debuff" explicit type check to ThraeFuncs_IsBuffActive, speeding up
05:45.24CIA-11the search.
05:46.13ThraeAmadeo: Works fer me with latest TinyTipExtras and TinyTip
05:49.11Kyahxgaurds in EPL all bullshit =(
05:49.23Kyahxthey have retarded "aggro"range
05:50.04ckknightNightdew, enormous file?
05:50.24Nightdewi need to hook functions
05:50.30Nightdewi have to register for events
05:50.54Nightdewplus a bunch of larger methods to process logic
06:00.51AmadeoThrae: hm, I just updated
06:01.01AmadeoThrae: it works but seems to keep resetting
06:02.16Amadeoon relog, it resets
06:02.23CIA-1103thrae * r5322 10TinyTip/ (CHANGELOG.TXT README.TXT TinyTip.lua): TinyTip - Updated README.TXT and CHANGELOG.TXT in preparation for release.
06:02.42Amadeooooh :)
06:02.53CIA-1103thrae * r5323 10TinyTipExtras/ (CHANGELOG.TXT README.TXT): TinyTipExtras - Added README.TXT and CHANGELOG.TXT.
06:03.09CIA-1103thrae * r5324 10TinyTipOptions/ (CHANGELOG.TXT README.TXT): TinyTipOptions - Added README.TXT and CHANGELOG.TXT.
06:04.13ThraeAmadeo: It's working fine for me even after a reload.
06:04.28ThraeSounds like your SV database may be corrupt...
06:06.10AmadeoI'll delete em and check
06:06.14ThraeAmadeo: Exit WoW. 1) Delete TinyTip, TinyTipExtras, and TinyTipOptions. Do a fresh CheckOut. If that doesn't work, 2) Rname your SV files to something like "TinyTip.old" and restart WoW.
06:06.26ThraeActually, stratch #2
06:07.04Thrae2) Try /tinytip default, then /tinytip confirm to reset your SV database back to defaults. If problem still persists, then backup & delete the SV files for TinyTip.
06:07.17KemayoThrae:  If I tell PVP rank to display as number-after-name then mousing over things gives this error:  Error: Interface\AddOns\TinyTip\TinyTip.lua:355: bad argument #3 to `format' (number expected, got no value)
06:07.40Amadeook :)
06:08.39AmadeoThrae: am I supposed to have to reloadui after I reset my ttip settings?
06:08.48CIA-1103thrae * r5325 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Fixed PvPRank after name bug.
06:09.19ThraeAmadeo: Yes, that should save a blank DB.
06:09.33ThraeKemayo: Thanks for pointing that out, fixed
06:10.16Amadeokk
06:11.09Amadeodefaults didn't fix it
06:11.13Amadeogonna delete everything and get it again
06:15.47Kemayonp
06:18.21AmadeoThrae: Same problem
06:18.25TemWobin, I have a bug report
06:18.35Wobinwhazzat?
06:18.39AmadeoThrae: Y Offset is 30, ToT is Next line, and Mana bars are on
06:18.43hyperChipmunkyou suck and nobody likes you
06:18.45TemFuXPFu doesn't show it's bar when you are level 1 without any experience
06:18.46Amadeoresets on reload
06:18.56Wobinhm
06:19.00hyperChipmunkTem: not just that
06:19.01TemhyperChipmunk, did you see my question earlier about Glorylib?
06:19.11Amadeo"Show Mana Statusbar" is still checked, though it's not showing up
06:19.22hyperChipmunkit just doesn't show up at all on first use until some experience moves
06:19.23TemWobin, though, it's not really a big deal since people very rarely stay at that point
06:19.31TemhyperChipmunk, aahhh
06:19.40Wobinah, yeah
06:19.48WobinSince it triggers on the update event
06:19.54Wobinor restxp
06:20.14hyperChipmunk/nod
06:20.20Temanyway, on to the more annoying issue
06:20.30TemhyperChipmunk, I'm getting spammed by erros in AB
06:20.38TemI think it's glorylibs fault
06:20.55Tembecause they all happen on the shouts
06:21.08Tem"Bob has assaulted the lumber mill"
06:21.10Temect
06:21.13hyperChipmunkit is; ckknight changes the behavior of it every week.  I've given up trying to keep it from erroring
06:22.17Temckknight, fixplz
06:22.51ThraeAny Libs in Trunk should not have Major version changes, IMHO.
06:23.32hyperChipmunkthey SHOULD have version changes if they change
06:23.40TemhyperChipmunk, though, BatFu seems to work just fine
06:23.42hyperChipmunkthe library that works got overwritten
06:23.57hyperChipmunkbecause it thinks it's the same version
06:24.26ThraeIt just needs to be kept in a different place when you External it
06:24.43ThraeOtherwise SVN will update it automatically.
06:24.56hyperChipmunki don't think libraries should change in functionality post-release
06:25.12hyperChipmunkI wrote batfu and bugfixed it, and was happy with it
06:25.28ThraeWhat does BatFu do?
06:25.39hyperChipmunkI shouldn't have to program against a moving target
06:25.49hyperChipmunkI write code to not have to maintain it
06:25.57IcerothThrae, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4722
06:25.57TemThrae, no, if the dev is worried about the revision of the externals, they will speicify the revision to pull instead of the head revision
06:25.59hyperChipmunkit's a battlegrounds plugin for fubar
06:26.28Nightdewuh oh  Warning Warning... Disgruntled coder detected!!!
06:26.37Icerothi had troubles with batfu in av for a long time, couldn't use objective timers but it's working again <3
06:26.41mjctoo much gnomeregan for Nightdew
06:26.44hyperChipmunkyea, but if another addon loads the library over it, then the new one loads
06:27.21TemhyperChipmunk, that, IMO, is when a new major version should be made
06:27.22ThraeIceroth: But I'm too laaaaaazy to click a link :D
06:27.31Icerothoffs :P
06:27.53Icerothand you get away with only clicking? i need to select it and paste it to my browser
06:28.03ThraeWait that's BattlegroundFu. Is that the same as BatFu?
06:28.12ckknightback
06:28.17ThraeI'm using irssi, so yes I have to copy&paste ;)
06:28.20ckknightjust watched A Scanner Darkly
06:28.33Icerothwell same, so why are you talking about clicking?)
06:28.39ckknightTem, fix what?
06:28.46Nightdewckknight: seems you have been tooo practical lol
06:28.49Temdunno
06:29.04ThraeIceroth: Fine - I'm even MORE lazy when it comes to copy&paste'ing a link!
06:29.05Temwhatever you did to glorylib to make it spam me with errors in AB
06:29.16ckknightNightdew, hrm?
06:29.30ckknightTem, blame Elkano
06:29.43TemI'm not on a german client?
06:29.52Nightdewckknight: too many code changes i am getting the feeling that are warrant major version changes
06:30.09Nightdewckknight: but i dont have specifics lol
06:30.39hyperChipmunkhe keeps adding artificial checks to the code, where I expect it to fall through when it fails
06:30.45hyperChipmunkall of the code works
06:30.50hyperChipmunkit just causes errors to get thrown
06:30.51ThraeAmadeo: I deleted my own SV database and -now- I'm getting your problem. Troubleshooting now.
06:30.54ckknightNightdew, I have 0 idea what you're talking about.
06:31.35ckknighthyperChipmunk, I haven't been adding checks.
06:31.41ckknightI haven't touched GloryLib in a while
06:31.47ckknightlast change I did was converting it to 2.0
06:31.52ckknightthat may have broken something
06:32.20hyperChipmunkit been telling me I'm only allowed to have 4 nodes or something
06:32.22hyperChipmunkin AB
06:32.27ckknightNOT MY GODDAMN FAULT.
06:32.32ckknightblame someone else.
06:32.56ckknightI didn't add a check like that.
06:33.21AmadeoThrae: haha ok
06:35.19hyperChipmunksvn blame shows:
06:35.21hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
06:35.33hyperChipmunki get 1-4 expected, got 5
06:35.36ckknightI don't remember putting that in.
06:35.53ckknighttake it out if you want.
06:36.13ckknightand that should say self:assert
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06:36.20ckknightor self:error
06:36.34hyperChipmunki don't know what it's supposed to do
06:36.49ckknightneither do I, I never messed with that stuff
06:37.00ckknightI'm gonna go through the logs and see
06:39.26ckknightI didn't add the error
06:39.33ckknightsomeone added it before me
06:39.38ckknightI just changed the text
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06:41.40AmadeoOneBag is going to drive me nuts, resetting its position all the time :)
06:42.13ckknightrev.2422
06:42.17ckknightit was added
06:42.44hyperChipmunk2422 is yours
06:42.49hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
06:42.56ckknightI know.
06:43.11CIA-1103thrae * r5326 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - TinyTip will now properly initialize TinyTipExtras if you have JUST the ManaBar or Extra Tooltip enabled.
06:43.23CIA-1103thrae * r5327 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtras.lua: TinyTipExtras - Init logic tweak.
06:43.34hyperChipmunkanyway, doesn't matter to me; I just squelch bugsack, cuz the code works
06:43.46ThraeAmadeo: Should work now.
06:43.48hyperChipmunkonly the asserts throw errors
06:43.53AmadeoThrae: Awesome, thanks :)
06:44.28ckknightso you're saying it should return nil instead of erroring?
06:45.23hyperChipmunkoh I have no idea
06:45.33hyperChipmunkI finished batfu long time ago
06:45.48hyperChipmunkworkin' on other stuff
06:46.15AmadeoBatFu always says "No Queues" for me, even if I'm queued
06:46.34hyperChipmunkyou unchecked the battlegrounds from showing up
06:46.47hyperChipmunkrightclick and check their names
06:47.06hyperChipmunkwhere it says, e.g.
06:47.08hyperChipmunkArathi Basin
06:47.10hyperChipmunkChange Instance
06:47.12hyperChipmunkLeave Queue
06:47.16ckknightwhatever, feel free to take out the assert
06:47.20hyperChipmunkArathi Basin must've gotten unchecked
06:47.29Amadeowhere does it say al that?
06:47.31Amadeoer, all
06:47.47hyperChipmunkrightclicking on the plugin fubar
06:48.00hyperChipmunkright where it says 'no queues'
06:48.00Amadeodo I have to queue up to see those options?
06:48.35Amadeoeverything is checked under tooltip display
06:48.45hyperChipmunkit's not an 'option', per say
06:48.47hyperChipmunkse*
06:49.00hyperChipmunkyea, you'd have to be queued to see the header
06:49.25Amadeolet me queue an then click it
06:49.45AmadeoI do't know if it's my fingers or my keyboard getting bad, but this is sucking
06:50.47ckknightbbl
06:51.27Amadeohm, looks like it's showing up now, who knows
06:51.39CIA-1103thrae * r5328 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Reseting options does not require a UI reload anymore.
06:51.41hyperChipmunkmaybe you're just stupid!
06:51.51Amadeowell that too ;)
06:53.30hyperChipmunknot really; I'm not in the habit of breaking code that works
06:53.45hyperChipmunkif someone else does it, then it's not my problem
06:55.23hyperChipmunklike I said, the code all still works
06:55.29hyperChipmunkit just spams you with errors
06:55.37hyperChipmunkif you ignore the errors, everything is fine
06:55.53hyperChipmunkcuz they're assert() errors
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07:10.21hyperChipmunkg'night, weirdos
07:10.35Nightdewgnight
07:23.59Nightdewgnight all
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07:31.31ckknightI need something to distract me from reality for a while
07:32.56ckknightno alcohol around here
07:33.02ckknightactually, there might be
07:35.32ckknightnope, not really
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07:48.30kergoth00:53 < Eclipser> welcome to IRC, where men are men, women are men and the little girls are FBI agents.
07:48.35kergothclassic.
07:52.28Mikkmen are boys, women are boys...  but otherwise correct =
07:53.29kergoth00:55  * kaitlyn 's 12
07:53.29kergoth00:55 < kaitlyn> Who do  get to arrest tonight?
07:53.30kergoth00:55 < praetis> well if you are an FBI agent I'd go elsewhere because there's not gonna be  a ton of harassment in a text editor channel
07:53.32kergoth00:55 < kaitlyn> s/her\./here./
07:53.35kergoth00:56 < kergoth> "Where did he touch you, honey? Was it in the commandline, or visual mode?"
07:53.38kergoth:P
07:53.52ckknighthehe
07:54.40sedatedChipmunkI swear! It was only so I could see her at the beginning of an ls -t!
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07:58.42snurre-Thrae: any luck with the raid target icons?
08:01.56mjcSetRaidTarget() ?
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08:15.54mjc!seen ag`
08:16.12mjc~seen ag1
08:16.15purlmjc: i haven't seen 'ag1'
08:16.15mjcarg
08:16.18mjc~seen ag`
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08:19.09CIA-1103mikk * r5331 10EtchASketch/ (6 files):
08:19.09CIA-11EtchASketch:
08:19.09CIA-11- Implement nifty tooltip that handles very Windowsy. Multiline implemented by just feeding LFs in the string.
08:19.09CIA-11- EAS_Ed_Methods tooltip: description of widget methods, including info about variants
08:19.09CIA-11- EAS_ED_Arg# toolip: Show description of method arguments (type, ranges, possible values for option lists...)
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08:27.48Wobinhm
08:28.00WobinI find it worrying that I'm outdamaging a rogue that's 5 levels above me
08:28.10WobinAnd he tells me that mace spec is a waste of points =P
08:28.38Wobinand outdamaging him by half =P
08:28.50mjcit is a waste of points
08:28.53mjcbut he's a shitty rogue
08:28.57mjcit won't be a waste in 1.12
08:29.01Wobinyus =)
08:29.08WobinI'm still not doing too badly
08:29.13WobinAnd I like the maceproc anyway
08:29.18Wobinit's useful for grinding
08:29.22vhaarrThrae: |elseif db["FAnchor"] == "STICKY" then TinyTip_Msg( "Sticky" )| :
08:29.33vhaarrThrae: I'm getting spammed by "TinyTip: Sticky"
08:33.26ckknightI think Barney was actually a propaganda machine
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08:40.53CIA-1103thrae * r5332 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtras.lua: TinyTipExtras - The Extra Tooltip will now work properly with MobInfo-2, and any other tooltip mod that hooks OnShow.
08:40.53CIA-1103thrae * r5333 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Updated for change in TinyTipExtras.
08:46.53CIA-1103thrae * r5334 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtras.lua: TinyTipExtras - Fixed last fix
08:47.03CIA-1103chinkuwaila * r5335 10BigWigs/AQ20/ (6 files): BigWigs (AQ20): added deDE localization
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09:05.19CIA-1103chinkuwaila * r5336 10BigWigs/ZG/ (6 files): BigWigs (Zul Gurub): updated deDE localizations
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09:51.28Icerothhow do i change the alpha of minimap so that it doesn't lose the map texture once i change zone? >.<
10:03.32ThianaHmm... Does DoEmote take a unit type, or an actual name? ie, DoEmote("BLAH", ??)
10:07.31Kebinusanhmm
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10:15.42Neronix`sleepHm, I need 2x advisors' rings and 2x of those spell penetration trinkets to boost my levelling
10:15.47Neronix`sleepproblem is, I have to pvp
10:16.04Neronix`sleepSomething I haven't done since lv... 27?
10:16.13Neronix`sleepAlso something I suck donkey balls at
10:16.34Kebinusanheh
10:17.50KebinusanI wish I spent more time learning to code and less time doing other things.. it'd make things alot easier
10:29.48Soltanishow will getting items from pvp , boost your leveling?
10:32.02Kebinusanspell penetration and chance to hit I think
10:34.09NeronixThe penetration trinkets also happen to have a bit of stamina on them too
10:35.42Kebinusanbleh
10:37.20KebinusanSomeone make my idea into lua so I dont have to figure it out :-0
10:40.21NeronixAnd said idea is? :P
10:40.44KebinusanI just want raid target icons slapped on people who get hit with Web wrap on Maexxna
10:41.19Kebinusanbut its like... there isnt just a function I can call to say  'person x is debuffed with web wrap'
10:41.26ThianaAsk whoever wrote the Bigwigs module for that to include it.
10:41.40KebinusanYeah I posted on the thread, just trying to figure it out and my head hurts
10:42.49KebinusanTheres alot I dont really like about the Maexxna module though, its too busy, everythign is tracked on a single bar with warnings at liek 45, 35, 20 seconds for different events instead of seperate bars
10:43.05Kebinusanbut Im trying not to think about that at the moment
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10:52.43Neronixtodo: Draft up some RFCs for a few AceUtils modules for people to comment on... as you would with an RFC :P
10:54.23ckknightRFC's a fun instance
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10:59.34Grumpeymorning.//
11:00.07TupladGMail is same as BulkMail ?
11:00.22vhaarrno
11:00.25vhaarrGMail = CT_MailMod
11:00.32Tupladaha!
11:00.48Tupladwell, bulkmail does kinda the same as CT_MM did for me :\
11:08.12SoltanisKebinusan : sure having people with icons over thier head would help?
11:18.31CodayusHmm
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11:36.15Andaliais there a parameter for dewdrop:AddLine to set the steps for a slider? atm i can choose 1.5 etc. but i only want 1, 2, 3 etc
11:36.47ckknightisn't that a step of 1?
11:37.40Andaliayes but i don't know how to define the steps. the is no such parameter like 'sliderStep' or so
11:37.55ckknightshould be
11:38.06ckknightI mean, I did add it
11:38.12Andaliathen it is not documented ;)
11:38.16Andaliaok ill try it out
11:38.16ckknightsee if sliderStep works
11:38.24ckknightmy guess is it will
11:39.47Andaliaok it seems like it should work but the problem now is that i have maxvalue 1 and minvalue 20 because i want the slider to be inverted
11:40.03Andaliathat doesn't work with a step :(
11:40.12CIA-1103ag * r5337 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames-enUS.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
11:40.12CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
11:40.12CIA-11<PROTECTED>
11:40.12CIA-11<PROTECTED>
11:41.15ckknightyea, you can't invert the values
11:41.19ckknightI didn't design it that way
11:41.34NeronixWould anyone want to convert a decimal greater than 255 to hex?
11:41.47ckknightyes?
11:42.11ckknight65535 and 4294967295
11:42.11NeronixKael's ToHex which will end up in AU-Maths only likes numbers up to 255
11:42.13Neronixd'oh
11:42.28ckknight:-P
11:42.43ckknighthave a pad value.
11:44.08CodayusI seem to be confusing myself.
11:44.24CodayusWhen/what is the difference between checking if a string is nil, and checking if it == ""?
11:44.29NeronixHmm, sea does it nicely
11:44.45Neronixstring.format("%.2x", decimal)
11:45.09ckknight.2?
11:45.22NeronixDunno, but it works with your numbers at least
11:45.34Neronix> print(string.format("%.2x", 4294967295))
11:45.34Neronixffffffff
11:45.43ckknightwhat about 10?
11:45.48ckknightwhat does it turn into?
11:45.53Soltaniscodayus, if a variable doesn't exist it will return as nil anyway
11:46.16Neronix0a
11:46.20ckknighthrm
11:46.25ckknightgo with that, then
11:46.30ckknightwait
11:46.32CodayusSoltanis: Hmph.  I'm going insane.  :-/
11:46.33ckknight65537
11:46.37ckknightwhat's it turn into?
11:46.40NeronixWell, their method has a minlength arg
11:46.49Neronix10001
11:46.53ckknighthrm.
11:47.03NeronixSeems they did something right for once
11:47.10ckknightnot in my opinion :-P
11:47.26Grumpeylol .. note to self .. disable scheduled virus scan before switching unit frame addons and wondering why frame rate is in the dirt
11:47.28Neronixwhat's wrong with it?
11:47.30Soltaniscos if you have 10 varibles 6 have values and 4 are nothing , it's the same as having 6 variables and checking to see if the other 4 exist
11:47.33Soltanisthat make sense?
11:47.56ckknight65537 shouldn't really turn into 10001 if 10 turns into 0a
11:48.07Soltanisat least thats how i have seen it , by reading hte jargon that goes through this channel
11:48.27Neronix%.1x gives 10001 too, and gives 10 as a
11:48.34ckknightyea
11:48.51ckknightit needs a set pad with a default of 2.
11:49.49CodayusOh, hmm.
11:50.04Neronixfmt = minlength and "%."..minlength.."x" or "%.2x"?
11:50.06CodayusYeah, makes sense.
11:50.12Neronixthat's kinda what they have
11:50.14Soltanisok cool
11:50.21ckknightyep, Neronix
11:50.37NeronixThey're still stupid though
11:50.58Neronixthey have a crazy looking IntFromHex method
11:51.06ckknighttonumber(x, 16)
11:51.12Neronixwhen one can just do tostring("F00", 16) and be done with it
11:52.35ckknighttonumber
11:53.28Neronixyeah, tonumber >.<
11:54.05ckknightnote how I don't need caffeine to know the right answer
11:54.19NeronixNoted
11:55.05ckknightvery well
11:55.07ckknightcarry on then.
12:05.28Tupladhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3349.jpg lol
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12:14.30MikkWanna bet there's people that accept by mistake?
12:19.21wereHamsterI couldn't even accept it.. I don't have 300g :)
12:19.36wereHamsterthe best protection against fraud
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12:28.53CodayusI got a wrapped package in the mail...COD for 100g or so.  MEssage claimed it was an epic (that normally went for 200g on the AH)
12:29.17CodayusNot a horrible attempt at a scam, I guess.
12:39.31CIA-1103neronix 07Neronix * r5338 10AceUtils/Maths-2.0/AceUtils-Maths-2.0.lua:
12:39.31CIA-11AceUtils - Maths:
12:39.31CIA-11- Cleaned up :Round
12:39.31CIA-11- New Method: :ToHex - Converts a decimal number to hexadecimal
12:39.31CIA-11- New Method: :GetHexColourCode - Converts passed values to hex and then returns them as a colour code
12:41.45CIA-1103neronix 07Neronix * r5339 10AceUtils/Maths-2.0/AceUtils-Maths-2.0.lua: AceUtils - Maths: Added :GetHexColor code as syntactic sugar for :GetHexColourCode
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12:58.11Grumpey.. Do debuffs show on the player frame in ag?
13:05.54MikkArf. It's "Color" all over the API. You don't go and make your APIs brittish =)
13:26.17NeronixMikk: That's why I put syntactic sygar in :P
13:35.26Industrialmorning cair
13:41.14Kaeltengood morning everyone
13:47.17CIA-1103neronix 07Neronix * r5340 10AceUtils/Maths-2.0/AceUtils-Maths-2.0.lua:
13:47.17CIA-11AceUtils - Maths:
13:47.17CIA-11- Changed remarks for :GetHexColourCode
13:47.18CIA-11- Optimised :GetHexColourCode
13:50.54NeronixWiki docs updated: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceUtils-Maths-2.0_Documentation
13:51.07NeronixAnd read this please: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1735
13:52.10Mikkhahaha
13:52.35Mikktortoisesvn might not have a "move" command, but renaming something into a different directory works fine :-P
13:55.11CIA-1103mikk * r5341 10EtchASketch/ (makeblplist.lua nodist/makeblplist.lua tooltip.lua):
13:55.11CIA-11EtchASketch:
13:55.11CIA-11- Move makeblplist.lua to nodist subdir. My bad.
13:57.11wereHamstermikk, what does EtchASketch do?
13:57.59WobinIt's for ingame design of guis
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13:58.00Wobinetc
13:58.02Wobinyada
13:58.04Wobinsoforth =)
13:58.31wereHamsterlike AceGUI ?
13:58.49Wobinnah
13:58.53WobinIt's actual in game
13:59.04Wobinie you can move stuff around and add stuff
14:13.30vhaarrwhat's the point of it?
14:13.37vhaarrDiscordArt replacement?
14:13.43Wobinno for addons
14:13.53Wobinso you can make a gui for your addon
14:14.04vhaarrand it saves it to savedvars?
14:14.11vhaarrso you can copy/paste to your XML?
14:14.28WobinI think it saves as something else you just drop into your addon
14:14.38Wobinand the code reconstructs the gui on load
14:14.42vhaarrit can't save as anything but a savedvar
14:14.44vhaarraah
14:14.47vhaarrcool
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14:16.30snurreTinyTip: Sticky
14:16.34snurrespamming me :(
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14:47.58CIA-1103facboy 07facboy * r5342 10Ace2/: Created folder remotely
14:49.05CIA-1103facboy 07facboy * r5343 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0.lua/: AceEvent-2.0: heap-based implementation
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14:58.38Tekcuberf
15:00.14MikmaGod damn!
15:00.26Mikmai just got a wild vision of Bartender using Ace2 :P
15:00.39Mikmai feel so dirty now, gotta go to shower or something
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15:04.28Amadeo:X
15:04.46snurregah, tinytip is spamming so badly atm :(
15:05.22vhaarrchange it from Sticky to something else then
15:05.25vhaarruntil the bug is fixed
15:05.34snurreyeh
15:05.39snurrecursor
15:05.40vhaarror just remove the TinyTip_Print("Sticky") line from the lua
15:05.44vhaarrnot really that hard
15:05.50Mikmackknight: so where are the ace2 examples huh?
15:06.17Gngskon the wiki?
15:06.36Gngskhttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Ace2#Documentation
15:06.46vhaarrMikma: there are lots of Ace2 addons already, just use those for examples :)
15:08.18hastehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prGb2pLzclI << People get bored I see
15:08.56GngskTekcub, where can I find CorkFu's Update() ?
15:09.07Tekcubwhat update?
15:09.14Tekcubit fires an event
15:09.22GngskI see self:Update() called twice
15:09.27Tekcuboh
15:09.31Tekcubuh..
15:09.40TekcubI was thinking the menu update thing :P
15:10.03Grumpey:Mikma do debuffs show on your the player frames for ag_unitframes?
15:10.20Tekcub:Update() is inherited from FuBarPlugin
15:10.28MikmaGrumpey: last time i checked, yes. i also updated them after that check
15:10.34Gngskahh, ok
15:10.36Tekcubit calls UpdateData(), UpdateText() and if applicable, UpdateTooltip
15:11.12GngskUpdateData() inherited too?
15:11.42Tekcubno, optional
15:11.56Gngskwas just curious because I saw the rescan event being trigger, but didn't understand what it was actually doing
15:12.10GngskI also don't see where that event is handled
15:12.47Grumpeybleh ./ not working on my shaman or mage ./ think I found it though
15:12.54Tekcubrescan *should* make every module doublecheck it's need list and then update core
15:13.10Tekcubbut I don't think I got the checks correct in the (de)bufftemplates
15:13.27Gngskwell, i only use CorkFu on my priest and rescan always works
15:13.37GngskI was just trying to see if I could avoid having to click it so often
15:14.11Gngskguess I'll just bind a key to a macro that calls RescanAll() for the time being
15:15.40Tekcub:)
15:15.56Tekcubyea I think the issue stems from SEAura
15:16.16Tekcuband I'm still seeing cases when someone isn't reclaiming tables into compost and niling out their refs
15:16.19Gngskthat would make sense
15:16.37Tekcuband the seaura gets one of those tables, the other mod changes it, and seaura goes bonkers
15:16.48TekcubQuestFu was doing that
15:17.06GrumpeyIt's something to do with self.database.AuraFilter .. it doesn't always have a value
15:20.26TekcubI don't use the filter
15:20.43GngskI think he's talking about agUF
15:20.50Tekcuboh
15:20.51Grumpeyyup aguf
15:21.11Grumpeyjust posted it ./
15:21.53Gngskok, one more quick question about corkfu
15:22.16Gngskwell, it's prolly more about dewdrop
15:22.49GngskI altered the code so the OnClick() toggles attachment of tooltip instead of calling CorkFirst() because I use the keybinding
15:23.03Gngskbut if it's attached and I detach, then there's two tooltips for a split second
15:23.20Gngskwas wondering if that was a bug or there's some way to hide the original
15:24.31snurrebtw, anyone got a hotfix to solve the problem in aguf where unitframes are moved 10ish pixels upwards on load and when you mouseover the scale menu?
15:35.33Tekcubgng, talk to ckk, I know nothing of the tooltip I just use his API
15:37.07Gngskok, that's what I figured
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15:47.47Nightdewgood morning
15:52.57hasteoh yay
15:53.03hastemy laptops hard drive just died
15:53.10Nightdewouch
15:53.18Nightdewthats fucked up
15:53.30Mikmahaste: welcome to the club
15:53.49Mikmai spent 250e couple of months ago to buy a new one and change it in
15:54.59hasteMy laptop is.. uhm.... seven years old tho'
15:55.16hasteI only use it to run apps that don't run on *nix
16:04.09Mikmai started to think about bartender and ace2...
16:04.24Mikmaseems like i could use AceDB and AceOptions for it
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16:07.08vhaarryarr, that would be nice
16:08.34Mikmadropdown menu for configuring etc
16:08.48Mikmabut i bet that's far in the future :D
16:12.23vhaarrno
16:12.36vhaarrjust use AceOptions and deucecommander fixes it for you
16:13.15hasteor just use AceOptions and dewdrop-2.0
16:13.20hastesince they use the same table
16:13.58Mikma~rinsult
16:15.12Tekcubballs?
16:15.18Tekcub(where?)
16:22.20Nightdewif i create a class through AceOO.Class()
16:22.26Nightdewi cant embed debug into it?
16:22.42Nightdewblabla = AceOO.Class;
16:22.51NightdewAceDebug.embed(blabla);
16:22.59Nightdew?
16:24.02Icerothyou can use the mixin
16:24.29Nightdewblabla = AceOO.Class(AceDebug);
16:24.30Nightdew?
16:24.53Icerothyea but "AceDebug-2.0"
16:24.58vhaarrSairen: with MG2 raid frames I have the "don't show tooltips for unit frames" option on in Tinytip, it still shows when you move the mouse at the very edge of the frames
16:25.01vhaarrThrae|Away: ^^
16:25.30Nightdewunless i s local AceDebug = AceLibrary("AceDebug-2.0");
16:25.33Nightdewcorrect?
16:25.48vhaarrSairen: it's really annoying because it shows whenever you mouse out of the raidframes, which happens alot
16:26.08Mikmavhaarr: 1 word: ag_UnitFrames
16:26.25vhaarrMikma: 1 word: notyet
16:26.36vhaarr:P
16:26.57Mikma4 words: your loss, not mine :D
16:27.28Icerothyea i suppose you could use something like that as well
16:28.33Gngskvhaarr, you using borders with MG2?
16:28.42vhaarrGngsk: yes, it happens on the borders
16:29.18vhaarrGngsk: do you know if it's tinytip or MG's fault?
16:29.26Gngskyah, they're a different frame
16:29.36vhaarrmaybe I can fix it myself
16:29.49vhaarrokay hm
16:30.03Tekcubgod I hate making PT sets
16:30.05Tekcub*whine*
16:30.37NightdewPT sets?
16:30.45vhaarrGngsk: "Toggle borders" and it still happens with them off
16:30.45Gngskperiodic table?
16:30.47TemsedatedChipmunk, FYI, TTV is broken on the PTR
16:31.11Nightdewdont know what it does
16:31.30sedatedChipmunkwhen I went on PTR, the resources collected 10x slower than normal
16:33.53sedatedChipmunkif that goes live like that, I won't have to worry
16:34.04sedatedChipmunkbecause nobody will play AB anyway
16:34.34sedatedChipmunk2.5 hours to win a match not exactly fun
16:34.55mjcsedatedChipmunk: bulkmail should be LoD
16:34.58mjc:P
16:35.04mjcand wtf @ gmail :p
16:35.07sedatedChipmunkno, just the gui
16:35.37sedatedChipmunkyou need to be able to manage your autosend list anytime
16:37.43TemsedatedChipmunk, well it appears that the resource gui changed
16:37.55Temand I can no longer see the opposing team's score
16:38.03Temwhich is... odd
16:38.27sedatedChipmunkoh, yea
16:38.29sedatedChipmunkthat too
16:48.58Temwhy would they do that?
16:51.38hyperChipmunkcuz they hate me
16:52.09Tupladis AceHeal better for healing than Clique ?(the interrupting of the healing spell when someone healed ur target etc)
16:55.43Tupladnvm
16:56.13Mikmai'm thinking of switching back to AceHeal again
16:56.26Mikmasince i don't like how Clique bugs with aguf PartyMember4
16:56.29Tupladwhich aceheal should I download in the branch btw ? oO
16:59.07Mikmadunno
16:59.14Mikmakyaxh version propably
16:59.25Mikmasince he's the last developer for AceHeal there has been
16:59.46Tupladaight :]
17:00.00mjcMikma: I blew away the playernames file and removed it from the toc and still ahve problems :P
17:00.20Mikmamjc: then delete all id's addons and see how it goes
17:00.57mjck
17:01.51mjcoh nm it was just under the auction window
17:02.30mjcsilly tooltip
17:09.15Tupladhm
17:09.18TupladI have this great idea :p
17:09.49TupladLets say, a client whispers another client with the word "follow" - and client #1 does /target client #2 and /follow
17:10.05Mikmablocked i think
17:10.09TupladQ_Q
17:10.25mjcno, it works
17:10.31mjc'omw'
17:10.36Tuplad>:O
17:10.57Tupladsweet, have to try it out
17:11.10Tupladanyone been on test servers yet ? It's filled with locks, shamans and rogues
17:11.22MikmaTuplad: well try search feature in curse. it already exists, i have seen it
17:11.23Tupladin 1 WSG team 8 rogues 2 shamans lol
17:11.28TupladMikma: aight
17:11.29mjchaha
17:11.31Andaliais there something ican do so that my dewdrop-menu doesn't close when i click in a 'hasColorSwatch'-button? Because it's really annoying that i have to reopen it after changing the color
17:16.42mjcTuplad: http://curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3217-1-autofollow.html
17:17.44Nightdewhehe
17:17.49Nightdewi should use that dualboxed
17:17.55Nightdewrather than include it
17:18.03Nightdewin my 2nd chars macros ;)
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17:24.41[Ammo]good evening
17:24.59Tupladmjc: thanks!
17:25.15mjcyep
17:25.18mjchey ammo
17:26.51hastehello
17:26.57Nightdewhi
17:26.59snurreThe format did not complete successfully.  <-- meh, my new hdd is fawked :(
17:29.08hasteI'm very confused right now
17:29.34hastefor some reason, WoW still loads a addon - even tho' I've restarted the client and deleted the folder :<
17:30.57Nightdew~seen ckknight
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17:32.06Nightdewsomeone wanne help me look at deformat?
17:32.55Nightdewit wont recognize a pattern of SPELL_CAST_TIME_SEC
17:33.13Nightdewwhich is %.3g sec cast
17:34.01TupladAceHeal.lua:167: attempt to compare number with nil
17:34.01Tuplad<PROTECTED>
17:34.05Tupladlol, now I cant leave my group :\
17:34.09Tupladtried right clicking on my unit frame
17:34.49TupladI guess AceHeal isnt compatible with 1.12 yet ?
17:35.10hasteweee
17:35.12hasteI figured it out ;D
17:35.58hastebut it was 1h 30min of nothingness thanks to a typo
17:36.20Nightdewshit
17:36.31Nightdewdeformat cant handle %.3g ...
17:38.14hasteokey, whatever you do.. don't make a typo in your little "SavedVariables" TOC field
17:38.32hastelike for example... writing oUF instead of oUFDB *cough*
17:38.57Mikmamehehe
17:39.07hastesuddenly only half the addon worked!
17:39.09hasteI wonder why?
17:39.19hasteso I removed the addon, oh neos! It's still there!
17:39.37hastegrep'd through my Interface folder - nothing
17:39.50Mikmai have come to a conclusion
17:40.04hasteand then I just do /script oUF = nil ReloadUI(), and it's like... oh fuck... *checks toc*
17:40.55TupladI think that AceHeal confused Heal & EmergencyHeal
17:41.08Tupladheal = slow heal, I bind it to middle button, it casts a fast heal
17:41.23Tupladsame with emergency, I bind to ctrl+middlebutton = slow heal
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17:58.03Tupladhm, can you bind AceHeal to do 2 actions ? select+heal
18:00.34CIA-1103tekkub * r5346 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Tradeskills/PTEmbedElemTradeskill.lua:
18:00.34CIA-11PeriodicTable - Added vendor recipes with price and reputation data to PTEmbedElemTradeskill.lua
18:00.34CIA-11- This data was parsed from GFW_AdSpace
18:07.07Mikmaam i the onlyone who is having troubles of noticing raidleaders texts?
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18:10.51CIA-1103tekkub * r5347 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Tradeskills/PTEmbedElemTradeskill.lua:
18:10.51CIA-11PeriodicTable
18:10.51CIA-11- Added ally, horde and neutral factions for non-rep recipes... again pulled from GFW_AdSpace
18:13.56tekkub215 different rec vendors in GFW_AS's data... mast have 3 recs or less
18:14.03tekkubI still think that's a waste of space...
18:14.24tekkublet the user find their info on thott/alla
18:14.58Mikmaye nob!
18:17.02SyzxPTEmbedElemTradeSkill.lua:57: `}' expected (to close `{' at line 11) near `recipevendoralchemy'
18:17.09Syzxwhen using MrPlow
18:43.31Kyahx|afkTuplad: are you useing AceHeal or AceHealLight?
18:44.27vhaarrKyahx: could you fix 2 small things in your AceHeal branch? just 2 1-liners
18:44.56KyahxWhat's wrong with them?
18:45.04vhaarrAceHeal.lua:167: |if self.Get("cancelthreshold") > 0 then| needs to be |if self.Get("cancelthreshold") and self.Get("cancelthreshold") > 0 then|
18:45.23Kyahxyea thats the bug I was just going to tell Tuplad about :p
18:45.30vhaarrAceHealLocals.lua: "Prayer of Spirit" is missing a space
18:45.56Kyahxvhaarr: I don't even use AceHeal anymore thou, if you have SVN access feel free to fix it.
18:46.01vhaarrI don't
18:46.04vhaarror I would fix it
18:46.09Kyahxkk, I'll re-download them quick
18:46.10TupladKyahx: AceHeal
18:46.13Tupladbut anyways :p
18:46.16TupladAceHeal works allright
18:46.26KyahxYea, just set the cancell theshold to 0
18:46.26TupladI'd love if Squishy would work with 1.12 too :(
18:46.33Kyahxthen bring it back up, see if that works
18:46.34Tupladblah :p doesnt matter :) it heals
18:46.55vhaarrwhy won't squishy work in 1.12?
18:48.24MikmaBigWigs needs a warning for these bombbats that explode :P
18:48.31Mikmanoobs always go near them and die
18:48.31Kyahxmeh
18:48.41KyahxL2WitchHunt
18:48.42Mikmahalf of our raid was killed with the first bat :D
18:48.43Kyahx:P
18:48.46Mikma*boom*
18:48.53KyahxThey'll learn in time, we used to have the same problem
18:48.56Kyahxbut now people don't
18:50.08Kyahxvhaarr: where is the locals bug i'm fixing now?  Line?
18:50.48Kyahxoh, extra space
18:50.50KyahxI see it
18:51.04Icerothwhat's wrong with going near the bats? just dps them down
18:51.26KyahxIts the big bats that blow up
18:51.29Kyahxthe trash before the boss
18:51.40Icerothyes, you can kill them before they blow up
18:51.49Mikmanever seen that happen
18:51.59Icerothassist ma, etc..
18:53.04CIA-1103kyahx 07Kyahx * r5348 10AceHeal/AceHeal/ (AceHeal.lua Locals/AceHealLocals.lua):
18:53.04CIA-11AceHeal: Added fixes by Vhaarr
18:53.04CIA-11<PROTECTED>
18:53.05CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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18:53.38Icerothdefinitely doable though
18:54.06KyahxHas anyone used the BigWigs NefCounter?
18:54.13Tupladvhaarr:why won't squishy work in 1.12? nope :(
18:54.54hasteTuplad: can you fix that name completer of yours?
18:55.09Tupladerm ?
18:55.15Tupladwhat you mean ?
18:55.15haste<nick>":I"<message>
18:55.27Tupladin irc ?
18:55.34hasteYes, on IRC
18:55.38Tupladno, I can not
18:55.43hyperChipmunkit's a tab
18:55.47Tupladthis is how I see my messages: hasteYes, on IRC
18:56.00Tupladyour name and timestamps are on a darker background, the text is on a lighter background
18:56.01hyperChipmunkthat shows a tab for us
18:56.02Icerothlooks seriously weird, inversed capital i on my screen
18:56.04TupladOpera's IRC client
18:56.08hyperChipmunkyea
18:56.10Tuplado_O
18:56.14hasteIceroth: same ;)
18:56.15CIA-1103kyahx 07Kyahx * r5349 10AceHeal/AceHealLight/Locals/AceHealLocals.lua:
18:56.15CIA-11AceHealLight: Added fix by Vhaarr
18:56.16CIA-11<PROTECTED>
18:56.16TupladHA!!!!
18:56.22hyperChipmunkeveryone else gets an I with inverted color
18:56.22TupladI always knew Im pro :]
18:56.29Tupladgimme a screenshot :p
18:56.34hastecan't be arsed
18:56.40Tuplad=_=
18:58.53Tupladgief squishy for 1.12 :(
18:59.03KyahxWhat's wrong with it?
18:59.11KyahxI'm sure it's fixable
18:59.27Tupladsec, I'll copy the errors >_<
18:59.35IcerothTuplad, http://tatexi.net/tatexi/wow/irssi.png
18:59.56Tupladhar har har >:]
18:59.59Tupladlets see
19:00.13TupladTuplad: HA!!!!
19:00.18Tupladis that giving u an "i" ?
19:00.49hasteyes
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19:01.15hastewait a sec
19:01.20hasteI was thinking of the "i" :p
19:01.22hasteso no
19:01.27Tuplado_O
19:01.31Tupladk
19:02.15hasteIceroth: how can you use the default theme :p
19:02.52Icerothtoo lazy
19:03.26TupladKyahx: http://users.telenet.be/tuplad/wow/errors.txt
19:03.27Tupladcheck
19:03.39Icerothbut feel free to show me better ones, i might wanna experiment
19:03.43Kyahxhmmm
19:04.10Tupladcore.lua is squishy
19:04.50Kyahxhmmm, looks like other mods are haveing similar problems
19:04.57Kyahxand try AceHeal now with Vhaarr's fix
19:05.09Tupladyea already updated :]
19:05.12Tupladhave to /rl
19:05.28Tupladresto shamans are fun
19:06.06hasteIceroth: http://www.fuxsake.net/images/nix/screenshot.png << theme I'm usin
19:06.11hastes/in/ing/
19:06.33hyperChipmunkthat's wicked ugly
19:06.49Kyahxlol
19:07.02hastehyperChipmunk: haha :p
19:07.43Tupladhaste, sham on you, Im not on the screenshot :<
19:07.49Tuplads/sham/shame/
19:07.56hastenot my fault your "casual"
19:08.00Tuplad>_>
19:08.11TupladI r live @ wowace
19:09.09KyahxTuplad: Squishy is working fine for me in test
19:09.26KyahxIm seeing myself show up (in solo mode) when damaged
19:10.31KyahxI'll try out a BG
19:11.17hastelol, I'm being spammed with "ping" messages in-game :p
19:11.24hastefriend trying to get a hold of me
19:13.23Mikmahttp://edu.joroinen.fi/~mikma/theme/Mikma.theme.png
19:13.27Mikmamy theme is something like that
19:14.11hasteI don't understand how people can have IRC like that :p
19:14.15hasteI _have
19:14.23hasteI _have_ to have the nicks on a line downwards
19:14.53KyahxTuplad: Squishy seems fine in BG as well, people showing up as exptected.  I guess its a mod conflict
19:15.18Mikmahaste: well this is the look i learned with ircII so that's the reason i'm using it :D
19:18.22hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/irc.png
19:19.17hasteI've never liked the window split function in irssi :p
19:19.19Mikmathat's not bad actually
19:19.35cladhairei'm still using gaim
19:19.39cladhaireso i dont have to switch windows for anything
19:19.39ThianaOk, why do I see lots of <tooltip>.name = getglobal("<tooltipname>TextLeft1") when "<tooltipname>TextLeft1" is never set anywhere? Is
19:19.44cladhaireand i'm lazy, running windows.
19:19.52ThianaCan someone explain that please?
19:20.05cladhaireThiana: GameTooltipTextLeft1 is the first line of the tooltip
19:20.09cladhaireon the left.
19:20.17Nightdewcladhaire: have you worked on deformat at all?
19:20.19cladhaireIf my battery reported charge outside of windows, i'd use bsd =(
19:20.22cladhaireNightdew: no i haven't.
19:20.51ThianaSo it's defined by WoW itself Clad?
19:20.58Nightdewk
19:21.31cladhaireThiana: Yes, its a member of GameTooltip
19:21.33cladhaireor any tooltip
19:21.40ThianaThanks :)
19:21.44hastetake a look at the gametooltip template!
19:21.51cladhaireaye
19:25.57Kyahxwow, epic'd out rogues are fun
19:27.31TupladKyahx: I have the latest Squishy tho, just updated from SVN.
19:27.36TupladThe Ace2 one
19:27.37Tupladwanna send me yours?
19:28.02MikkThiana: The game engine modifies those fontstrings itself. It assumes that they will be there. Calling any of the Set...() methods on a gametooltip will cause the game engine to fill them out.
19:28.12Tupladone thing that amazes me in AceHeal is when I just resurrect, and like 50%, and I use a heal on me, it chooses rank 1 all the time till Im 100% o_O
19:28.15KyahxI havent changed anything :P
19:28.23Kyahxbut im not running any other mods
19:28.28Kyahxdid you try that?
19:29.04Tupladhm
19:29.12Tupladso you have the latest Squishy from svn just like me ?
19:29.14KyahxIm also playing a rogue atm, if that makes a differance
19:29.16Kyahxyep
19:29.20TupladIm playing shammy
19:29.22Tupladhmm >:|
19:29.28Kyahxdisable everything except squishy
19:29.30Kyahxsee what you get
19:29.33Tupladk lets see :]
19:29.39hasteyou know.. there are way to many mixes of ayumi's songs :<
19:29.48Tupladbtw
19:29.53TupladOmniCC wont work if CD is above 1min
19:29.59KyahxI noticed that as well
19:30.01Tupladit shows like 1%d harharhar
19:30.49KyahxWhats your toon's name on Test tuplad?
19:31.13Tupladerm
19:31.19TupladIm on EU servers, u ?
19:31.47Kyahxn/m :P
19:31.58Tuplad:D
19:32.14TupladI have a very bad name btw
19:32.17hasteI need to get myself a US account =\
19:32.19Tupladdidnt think about it when I was creating it
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19:35.41cladhaireso do we... so do we=)
19:36.21wereHamsterhow far is the BigWigs Ace2 version?
19:36.32Icerothstack trace would rock
19:36.47cladhairelocal text = debugstack()
19:36.49cladhaireprint(text)
19:36.58TupladKyahx: same error, at like 193 with "frames"
19:37.02Iceroth"attempting to index field '?' - nil value" tells soooo much :)
19:37.22Nightdew... and how to do that at the moment of error?
19:37.37Nightdewoh wait, nvmd
19:38.20Nightdewwould have to place that everytime in the error location if unclear
19:38.30Nightdewmaybe something to add to AceDebug
19:38.50cladhairether is something there
19:38.50cladhairei think
19:38.54cladhaireor hook error
19:38.56cladhaireor make your new error
19:39.03KyahxTuplad: =/
19:39.06cladhairei.e. Error = error(debugstack())
19:39.07TupladKyahx: =\
19:39.21Kyahxtry clearing your saved variables?
19:39.29Kyahx<PROTECTED>
19:40.44Tupladkk
19:41.06Kyahxcladhaire: PerfectRaid is semi-broken on test
19:41.06Tupladsame shit
19:41.06Kyahxits not detecting when you leave a BG raid group
19:41.40cladhairehrm fun
19:41.40cladhairelol
19:41.45Kyahx:)
19:41.47cladhairethen i suppose i have some coding to do
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19:42.32Icerothah, when is the new version of praid coming?) you've been hinting about it for so long already :)
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19:43.01cladhairewhen clique is done
19:46.50Kyahxactually: maybe its a blizzard bug
19:46.55cladhairelol
19:46.59Kyahxwhen
19:47.01kergothsomeone did an error catching addon ala bugsack that prints a debugstack for each error it encounters
19:47.02Kyahxr
19:47.04kergothseemed promisin
19:47.07kergothg
19:47.09Kyahx<PROTECTED>
19:47.13Kyahxwhen im standing in orgrimar
19:49.25Nightdewkergoth: indeed
19:50.24TupladKyahx: send me your squishy!
19:50.43kergothhttp://endif.cjb.net/wowui/wiki/FullError
19:50.53Kyahxlol
19:50.58KyahxIts the same im telling you
19:51.12Tupladyou have the latest latest latest squishy off the svn ?
19:51.14TupladAce2
19:51.24Tuplad?
19:51.34Kyahxyep
19:51.39Kyahxtrunk version
19:53.03Tuplad:\
19:53.05Tupladhar har har
19:53.12Nightdewkergoth: have you tried it?
19:53.35kergothNightdew: yes, it works well, the only annoyance is that you can copy & paste the traceback, but not the main error, since that main error is in the titlebar of the error window
19:53.46kergothbeen meaning to pester end about that
19:53.48Kyahxworking on a brand new shaman (not that I think its a class problem anyways)
19:54.47Nightdewheh
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19:54.57Tupladharr
19:55.05Tupladdeleted saved vars
19:55.07Tupladreloaded
19:55.08Tupladcore.lua:193: attempt to index field `frames' (a nil value)
19:55.08Tuplad<PROTECTED>
19:56.28Kyahx=/
19:57.29CIA-1103thrae * r5350 10TinyTip/TinyTipAnchor.lua: TinyTip - Removed debug line from SVN
19:58.33snurreis there a way to scale praidtargets?
19:59.40tekkubwhy oh why must people use retarded-ass yahoo IM?
20:00.26Kyahxbecuase they are retarded-asses?
20:00.41ThraeBecause Yahoo used to be balanced against Google in market share, and it still has a fair following.
20:01.07tekkub*grumble*
20:01.16ThraeAnyway, Yahoo used to be a lot less evil then AOL or MSN, and ICQ has its own problems. Yahoo IMs are mostly for old people.
20:01.40tekkubICQ got fucked up about 4 months before AOL absorbed it
20:01.47tekkuband it's been stagnant since
20:01.50ThraeRight
20:01.59Tuplad^afkICQ is being widely used in Russia and the ex-USSR countries :]
20:02.08Tuplad^afkyou'll barely see ppl using yahoo, aol or msn
20:02.14tekkubAIM is simple, but the client just bloated like no other, Yahoo did the same
20:02.34tekkubit's like cell phones, I don't need file xfer and cute icons and voice and all that shit
20:02.44tekkubgive me text-exchange, kthxbi
20:02.46tekkubbbiab
20:02.59ThraeI think Yahoo was one of the first popular ones to have "all that shit" ;)
20:03.26Temgaim ftw
20:04.09Andaliaim not shure if it is a bug but i have 2 addons that use :RegisterEvent("AceEvent_FullyInitialized", nil, true) with AceEvent and since i have the second one, the first doesn't receive the event anymore
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20:15.09KebinusanSo Im trying to hack together a a bit of code to put raid target icons on peoples heads when they get afflicted with web wrap during the Maexxna fight....  if anyone wants to take a look at this hack job and offer some feedback it would be appreciated http://ace.pastebin.ca/96316  .. Im not even sure if it will compile yet
20:20.33Tuplad^afkhey kebinusan
20:20.35Tuplad^afkthat's cool
20:20.46TupladI think you could even use it for more than "maexnna"
20:23.01snurrebigwigs does that in mc
20:23.30hasteyou know, realm forums are so...
20:23.45hastehttp://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-grimbatol-en&t=14237&p=1&tmp=1#post14237 << example :p
20:24.28KebinusanThe way it does it in MC and Vael is a bit different since it just looks for Xxx afflicted by, but since its multiple targets not a single target I thought I'd need to check debuffs
20:25.56Kebinusanhaste, wow.
20:26.21hasteyeh, we have those on IRC also :p
20:26.41Thraehaste: Branch your PRT modifications :D
20:26.41hastemost of the "fake quotes" are inspired from 4chan I believe
20:27.18Kebinusanreminded me of a number of bash quotes
20:27.20hasteThrae: I've only removed the background tho' :OOO
20:27.41Thraehaste: Oh? It looks like you scaled it too
20:27.51hasteI haven't
20:28.10ThraeWell I guess that's not too hard to do.
20:28.56hastejust remove the SetBackdrop()'s
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20:46.22snurrehttp://www.spectral-lords.co.uk/random/shaman2.mp3
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20:52.52Tupladomg @ that song ;\
20:53.12Tupladthat guy is a good singer, he can become the second eminem
20:53.55Temcladhaire, that's not Praid's fault on the PTR
20:54.14Temthat's the the BG raid being stupid
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20:58.17ckknightmjc, ping?
20:59.33TupladKyahx|afk: dunno wtf is wrong
20:59.35Tupladbut still getting that error with squishy
20:59.35Tupladcore.lua:193: attempt to index field `frames' (a nil value)
20:59.46Jagobahhttp://www.whiteninjacomics.com/comics/city.shtml <--- Kyahx's avatar!
20:59.51Kyahx|afk:)
21:00.08Jagobahhttp://jagobah.org/dog.gif is my favorite
21:00.56hastehttp://www.whiteninjacomics.com/comics/pie.shtml << my fav
21:01.11JagobahXD
21:01.16Nightdew....
21:01.40Kyahx|afk:) I love White Ninja
21:01.45Kyahx|afkok afk for real now
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21:04.26Tem~raid status
21:04.28purlWe are currently at smiley face raid status.
21:05.19hastewtf
21:05.45ckknightwhat's the color code yellow-orange-red thing for terrorists called?
21:05.54ckknightyou know, we're at orange threat today
21:06.00ckknightor whatever
21:06.12ckknightit seems to show up right before elections
21:06.18ckknight(probably a coincidence)
21:07.38TupladKyahx|afk:
21:07.49Tupladwhat's the url again ? I closed the window by accident >_<
21:08.25Tupladharrrrrrrrr! itw orks
21:08.27Tupladit works*
21:12.14ckknightork!
21:12.31Tupladtrollpatrolol
21:12.37Tupladpatroll*
21:15.19Tupladhar, could anyone clarify this for me ? How does Ace2 work ? It's embed, I know - but let's say, Warmup is the first Ace2 addon in my list(starts with !! so I guess its the first that being loaded), but lets say - it doesnt have the newest Ace2, what happens ? Will all the other addons have to use the not updated Ace2 ?
21:17.23hyperChipmunkembedded libraries load newer versions of themselves
21:17.31Nightdewckknight: Threat Level ..?
21:17.42Nightdewckknight: def con?
21:17.47ThraeTuplad: Embedded libraries work like so - they have a MAJOR version and a MINOR version. Once loaded into memory, each time an addon requests an instance of the library, it must specify which MAJOR version it wants. If the instance in memory matches the MAJOR version the addon wants, then it uses that. If that addon has a higher MINOR version embedded with the same MAJOR version as in memory, then it updates the current library instance.
21:18.05ckknightThreat Level
21:18.08ckknightnot def con
21:18.13ckknightthat's a soviet-era thing
21:18.19ckknightdidn't strike hard enough at home
21:18.29Nightdewlol im being help full and this is what i get
21:18.47ckknight~threat level
21:18.49Nightdewi think the offical name is
21:18.54ThraeTuplad: If the addon requests a MAJOR version of the library that is not in memory, then it will load its own embedded instance of the library. MAJOR version changes usually indicate major behavior changes or removal of API functions.
21:18.58NightdewAmerica's Terror Threat Level
21:20.39Tupladaha
21:20.42Tupladkewl!
21:21.00CIA-1103thrae * r5351 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipIcons.lua: TinyTipExtras - You can now toggle whether to show the appropriate Raid Target Icon on your tooltip.
21:21.12CIA-1103thrae * r5352 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Updated for change in TinyTipExtras.
21:21.24CIA-1103thrae * r5353 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipChatLocale_enEN.lua TinyTipOptions.lua): TinyTipOptions - Updated for change in TinyTipExtras.
21:21.40ckknightpurl, threat level is <reply>We're currently at threat level: (red | orange | yellow | blue | white | mauve | turqoise | fuchsia | brown | periwinkle | almond | beige | aqua )
21:21.41purlckknight: okay
21:21.45ckknight~threat level
21:21.47purlWe're currently at threat level:  beige
21:21.51ckknight*thumbs up*
21:22.15Nightdew...
21:22.59Nightdeweasy way to stuff a boolean in a format("" ..?
21:24.09ThraeNightdew: Try tostring(booleanValue)
21:24.40ThraeOf course that'll give "nil" if it's nil instead of false.
21:25.19ckknightor table: 4528436 if it's a table
21:25.27Nightdewty
21:25.35Tem~raid status
21:25.36purlWe are currently at smiley face raid status.
21:26.49ThraePeople using purl in other channels: "What the hell does 'raid status' mean?"
21:26.52ckknightanyone know a cheap place to register a domain name?
21:27.10Nightdewyahoo has some ad for 2.99 a year
21:27.13ckknight~literal raid status
21:27.14purl"raid status" is "<reply> We are currently at smiley face raid status. || <reply> We are currently at frowny face raid status."
21:27.15ckknightno ads.
21:27.19ckknightand I'll be hosting
21:27.25Nightdewdidnt look what it entailed
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21:27.42Thraeckknight: godaddy.com if you're feeling brave
21:27.54ThraeCheapest around, and you get what you paid for!
21:27.59ckknightpurl, no raid status is <reply>We are currently at (smiley|frowny) face raid status.
21:28.00purlckknight: okay
21:28.11ckknighthrm
21:28.13Thrae~raid status
21:28.15purlWe are currently at smiley face raid status.
21:33.52ckknight~threat level
21:33.54purlWe're currently at threat level:  fuchsia
21:34.59ckknighthehe.
21:37.35CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5354 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
21:37.35CIA-11AceTab-2.0:
21:37.35CIA-11- Usage printout altered slightly. If usageFunc returns a string, then it will print it out; otherwise, it will assume that the function itself handled the printout and will print nothing.
21:40.06hyperChipmunkI think I've got all the kinks out of aceTab now =)
21:40.20hyperChipmunksuch a pain in the neck
21:42.21phyberyay, we finally got raggy down :)
21:42.51ThraeAlright, I think it's time to release TinyTip v1.4. Much easier to work out smaller kinks with a larger audience.
21:44.05Kyahxphyber: grats
21:46.25phyberKyahx: thanks :)
21:46.34phyberwas a smooth run, and i even survived :p
21:46.43phyberwe had him at ~45% before he submerged.
21:47.29hasteMr. Rag always loved to knock my shaman silly
21:47.40hasteThink the max combo is four times :<
22:01.29MikmaLOOOOL i just love the oRA's Bloodlord module
22:01.40Mikmait put's a skull on person who's being watched haha
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22:02.05Mikmaag`: i got a error on aguf when targeting ZG Speakers
22:02.16ag`what line
22:02.19ag`and what is a ZG speaker
22:02.20Mikma472
22:02.24Mikmajust a sec
22:02.27Mikmalovely screenshot
22:02.39ag`what file too
22:03.46Thraeag`: Always remember, UnitName, UnitClass, UnitRace, UnitClassification, and UnitCreatureType may all be nil even if UnitExists returns true.
22:04.06ag`I hate that
22:04.20ag`I am very bad at nils
22:04.25ThraeIt's just the server being slow giving you the info, so there may be like 2-3 frames where it's nil
22:04.38Mikmaag`: http://wow.reaktio.net/speaker.jpg
22:05.01ThraeWhenever I display text from a Blizzy API, I add 'or "Unknown"', or 'or ""'
22:06.15ag`yeah
22:06.18ag`I should do that too
22:06.44ag`Mikma, what is the IRC wannabe addon called you have down in the corner?
22:07.35mjcckknight: pong
22:07.41ThraeLooks like rChat
22:08.15mjcidChatPlayerNames
22:08.27mjcit doesn't quite work right atm
22:08.39ckknightmjc, was gonna get on your account, but not anymore
22:08.45mjckk
22:09.40ThraeMake that Chatr
22:14.14Mikmaag`: Chatr yeah
22:14.24ag`is it on the svn
22:14.29Mikmanope
22:14.36Mikmahttp://ui.worldofwar.net
22:18.13snurreTinyTipIcons.lua:69: Attempt to find 'this' in non-table object (used '.' instead of ':' ?)   ---
22:18.22Mikmaag`: oh yeah the colors fooked up also when i targeted the speaker after a player
22:18.34Mikmaag`: the speaker got frienly-colors as hpbar
22:18.34Amadeosnurre: I think if you get rid of your saved variables that should fix...but I don't remember
22:18.53Amadeoback em up in case :)
22:19.09Mikmaag`: i'll put a SS up from that one too ;D
22:19.47CIA-1103thrae * r5355 10TinyTipExtras/ (CHANGELOG.TXT TinyTipIcons.lua): TinyTipExtras - Typo
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22:19.56Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/speaker2.jpg
22:20.07Mikmaag`: notice the "60 warrior dwarf" ;D
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22:20.59Thrae|Awaysnurre: Sorry, fixed
22:21.02hasteI had the same problem on oUF2
22:21.10hastedon't remember what I did to fix it tho'
22:21.36Amadeosnurre: or not :P
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22:27.00CIA-1103ag * r5356 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
22:27.00CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
22:27.00CIA-11<PROTECTED>
22:27.23ag`somebody real sharp at coding should take a look at my code and tell me where I did stupid things
22:27.34ag`I bet there are more optimized ways to do some of the stuff I do
22:28.34ckknightprobably
22:28.38ckknightI'm busy now, though
22:29.02Nightdewfixing deformater?
22:29.04Nightdew;)
22:29.11Grumpe1ag: are debuffs working for you on the player frame?
22:29.30ag`Grumpe1, yes
22:29.39ag`tell me if you're using a german/french client
22:29.43Grumpe1english
22:30.07ag`what class
22:30.12Grumpe1Shaman
22:30.41Grumpe1Posted under the ag_unitframes thread earlier
22:30.56ThianaAnyone recall offhand if the mage Innervate is self-only?
22:31.11ThianaEvocation I think it's called?
22:31.15Amadeoself
22:31.19ThianaThanks :)
22:31.20Amadeo:)
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22:31.37CIA-1103ag * r5357 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua:
22:31.37CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
22:31.37CIA-11<PROTECTED>
22:31.50ag`Grumpe1 what if you turn the filter off
22:32.25Nightdewhaste: you around?
22:32.33hasteNightdew: yes
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22:32.57Mikmaag`: oh yeah btw, would like to have numbers for debuffs...
22:33.02Nightdewwith SPELLCAST_DELAYED
22:33.21Nightdewhave you seen a strange difference between the finaly time of the when a cast completes
22:33.26Mikmaag`: warrior needs to see how many sunders there is on mob
22:33.31ag`Mikma, yeah... It will come
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22:33.34Nightdewand the values of startime + all delays
22:33.46hastedoesn't SD just say how much it was delayed?
22:33.53Nightdewyes
22:33.56Nightdewhence
22:34.02Nightdewstarttime + delay
22:34.10Nightdew+delay = delay
22:34.10hasteI've seen it give a delay on 0 once
22:34.12Nightdewoops
22:34.17Nightdew+delay +delay
22:34.48Nightdewbut starttime + n-delays ~= final completetime
22:35.43hasteI don't remember that being incorrect
22:35.50hastebut then again, I'm very tired right now :p
22:35.59Tupladdidnt try out squishy in a raid yet, but does it only show your party or the whole raid ?
22:36.18CodayusWhole raid.
22:36.34CodayusPeople in your raid group are marked with blue '<'s though.
22:37.19ag`Grumpey, you there? Did you try to turn off the aura filter
22:37.29Grumpeyyeah ./
22:38.28Grumpey<PROTECTED>
22:38.56Grumpeylogging in game to try it again now
22:39.38Neronixhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1735.0.html -- Read please
22:40.02NeronixThis is a community project, and I need community feedback :P
22:40.32CIA-1103ag * r5358 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua:
22:40.32CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
22:40.32CIA-11<PROTECTED>
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22:42.27Grumpey:haste .. you got a sec to check out http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1596.180.html , I tweaked to do coloring of the healthbar based on debuff, and added an option to turn on and off
22:42.44hasteGrumpey: I've seen the post
22:43.00Grumpey:haste .. nvm then ./
22:43.11hasteBut I'm not only working on oUF, oRA and oCB :p
22:43.35hasteoh btw
22:43.46hasteif you want me to add it.. like now.. provide me a diff :p
22:43.57Grumpeyno worries .. I'm just trying to learn some of this stuff ..
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22:47.37hasteI'm also trying to get oCB2 out, people have waited long enough - by far :p
22:51.10Nightdewa question with casting bars in mind.. would anybody like to see any casting bars optionally show instant casts as well?
22:51.34Nightdewor am i the only fool?
22:52.13hasteYou've already seen my comment on that ;)
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22:53.21Mikmaag`: what tweaks? :)
22:53.26CIA-1103ckknight * r5359 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - fixed bug in :IsScheduledEvent
22:58.06CIA-1103ag * r5360 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
22:58.06CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
22:58.06CIA-11<PROTECTED>
23:05.50hastetekkub: when will you fix SE to use Ace2?
23:05.59tekkubNEVAR!
23:06.03tekkubuhm
23:06.05haste;OO
23:06.07tekkubwhen I get to it? :)
23:06.18hasteYour making my life harder :(
23:06.20tekkubin the process of dealing with a lot of shit
23:06.35tekkubhubby quit job, started new one for a day, quit it
23:06.41tekkubhis mom broke her ankle
23:06.47tekkubtrying to move back to CO
23:06.51NightdewSE?
23:06.52tekkubetc etc blah blah blah
23:07.07ckknightoff I go to the mystical magical land of my brother's place.
23:07.10ckknightcya
23:07.13mjccya ckk
23:07.15Nightdewbye
23:07.30mjctekkub: that sucks
23:07.40mjcsorry to hear it
23:07.43tekkubyarr
23:07.57mjc~pirates
23:08.04mjc~pirate
23:08.06purlrumour has it, pirate is So forgive me my rough mood unaccustomed to sue; I woo not, perhaps, as your landlubbers do.
23:08.06tekkub~Dr. Who
23:08.07purlbwweeeeeooouuuuu
23:08.08mjcdammit
23:08.19mjcthere we go
23:08.19Nightdewhaste: SE?
23:08.25mjcspecialevents
23:08.27hasteNightdew: Special events
23:08.33Nightdewoh right
23:09.54CIA-1103silverwind * r5361 10BigWigs/AQ20/Ossirian.lua: BigWigs (Ossirian): Added check for "Expose Weakness" debuff. Locals still missing (Are they even needed?)
23:17.38*** join/#wowace Kemayo (n=Kemayo@pool-71-103-166-178.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)
23:17.50mjcMC pickups are fun.
23:19.18mjchttp://thottbot.com/?i=37602 last time I was in one
23:20.02NeronixThey actually get by the first pull?
23:27.43CIA-1103ag * r5362 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua:
23:27.43CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
23:27.43CIA-11<PROTECTED>
23:27.49KyahxNeronix: We have MC pugs all the time that down Rag
23:29.35NeronixReally?
23:30.06NeronixAre they 40 people in greens/blues or people who are BWL/AQ/Naxx geared?
23:30.26Kyahxblues
23:30.46phyberfull of alts of people who have killed raggy, i guess.
23:30.55Kyahxyep
23:30.56phyberthat's what it usually is on bloodhoof eu
23:31.39*** join/#wowace pagefault (n=pagefaul@HSE-Montreal-ppp135045.qc.sympatico.ca)
23:32.33NeronixI see
23:32.41snurreis the nudge issue in aguf fixed?
23:34.14*** part/#wowace wereHamster (n=tomc@gw.ptr-62-65-141-13.customer.ch.netstream.com)
23:37.10ag`"nudge"?
23:37.35Grumpey:ag . no filter working :-), filter not working on shaman also poison debuff showing up with a red border
23:37.56snurrewhen ui is loaded, the unitframes are nudged ~10 pixels upwards
23:38.10snurresame also happens when you mouseover the scale option in menu
23:38.32snurredon't think it happens when xp bar is shown tho
23:44.51Mikmaag`: so what did you fix?
23:47.37Nightdewhmmm
23:47.42Nightdewwho has used triggerevents?
23:50.03ag`nothing
23:50.08ag`it is probably broke atm
23:51.00Mikmakergoth`bbl: wtb aggro-alert for MSBT ;D
23:52.19hasteMikma: WTF learn2play !
23:52.26haste/s/F/S/
23:53.31Mikmanab
23:54.52hyperChipmunkMSBT shows agro
23:54.57hastehttp://plixx.org/?6l << corrects my mistake!
23:56.39MikmahyperChipmunk: not the way it should
23:59.14Mikmaseems like grim batol is open for transfer
23:59.38hasteI'm on Grim Batol EU

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