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00:00.11*** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com)
00:01.01Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1347.msg30786.html#msg30786
00:01.07Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/todo
00:01.10Industrialgg =P
00:02.22Galka___Man, I'm itching to download and playtest IceHUD but can't.  
00:02.23Galka___*cry*
00:02.24Industrialavantasia* :s
00:02.29IndustrialGalka___: why?
00:02.35Galka___SVN is down for me.
00:02.52ag`what framestrata is fubar in?
00:04.08Industrialhow does  message from a raid leader work?
00:04.12Industrialerr, show in the chat
00:04.20IndustrialI never raid so i dont know
00:04.23Industrial[Raid Leader] ?
00:04.28Mikma[Raid Leader] ..
00:04.31Industrialoki
00:04.35Industrial*fixes*
00:04.37Mikmajust a sec
00:04.52Galka___Is SVN working for you Mikma?
00:05.00Galka___BTW Mikma, there's a funky issue with Bartender.
00:05.04Mikma[Raid Leader] [Name]: text
00:05.08Industrialthanks
00:05.09Galka___Sometimes the bars dont move at all unless you reloadui.
00:05.10MikmaGalka___: is not working, what issue?
00:05.35Mikmais this with the new version?`
00:05.43Galka___Last night's version.
00:05.48Galka___I can't update via SVN atm.
00:05.53Galka___So if youve updated since then
00:05.55Mikmagood. then it's fucked up ;)
00:05.59Mikmahaven't...
00:06.06MikmaNeronix's scaling was last commit there has been
00:06.47Industrialcrap svn is down for me too
00:08.00IndustrialMikma: so i cant upload my fix :(
00:08.04IndustrialidChatChannelnames: The addon now distinguishes between normal raid messages and raid leader messages. It shows raid leader messages prepended with 'R' and normal raid messages prepended with 'r'. This is untested.
00:08.45Mikmaag`: ag_UnitClass.lua:427: ;) ...
00:08.59ag`yeah, dunno what about it
00:09.46Mikmathe same thing still happens to me
00:09.59Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/aguf/aguf1.jpg
00:10.09Mikmalook at the buff-frames ^^
00:14.13Mikmaag`: so, have you tested that the raidcolors work for all classes?
00:14.21Mikmasince it's warrior-only bug..
00:14.39ag`Mikma, sure it is warrior only? :D
00:14.45ag`I can't see why the hell it should be that
00:14.54Mikmaag`: everytime warrior joins party that happens
00:15.02Mikmabut i can invite ie.rogue whenever i wan't
00:15.34ag`I will test it, I have two wow accounts (my brothers)
00:15.47Mikmai can help you..
00:17.58hasteI have access to 11 WoW accounts :<
00:18.05Mikmanerf
00:18.24hasteand most people have two or three L60s
00:18.43hasteI only know power gamers :p
00:19.12Mikmai'm going after my 4th lvl60 now :P
00:19.19Mikma17 levels to go ;)
00:19.38hasteI soon have three, but I do a lot also :p
00:19.50hasteand I went through hell year last year ^^
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00:22.06IndustrialI um
00:22.17Industrialsuck at keeping attention
00:22.22Industrial(to say the least)
00:22.42IndustrialDon't think its right to blame ADD :P
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00:25.35AmadeoThrae!
00:25.41Mikmaag`: and the damn frame sticks around even when i leave the party
00:25.57kergothif drathal didnt put in a license in his code that prevented copying without permission, he really has no room to whine about it
00:26.04kergotheither give it an appropriate license, or deal with it
00:26.08ag`Mikma, nice
00:26.14Industrialkergoth: where?
00:26.28kergothIndustrial: DHUD is DEAD - There will be no new Version of DHUD
00:26.29kergoth"Because of People only change some Textures and do a
00:26.29kergothBranch of DHUD without my Permisson.
00:26.30kergoth"
00:26.35Industriallol
00:26.36kergothfoolishness
00:26.42Industrialyeah
00:26.48Industrialthat addon sucks fps btw
00:27.05hyperChipmunkthe textures were the worst part; why would anyone lift those?
00:27.10kergothif he had given it a license saying you cant make derived works, and someone did, thatd be one thing.. but otherwise, fuck that
00:27.11Industrialits like a vacuum of resources
00:27.27IndustrialhyperChipmunk: I kinda like those textures :P
00:27.34hyperChipmunkthe bubblies?
00:27.39Industrialno the arcs
00:27.40Industrial( )
00:27.44hyperChipmunkthe arcs are fine
00:27.51kergothhyperChipmunk: what do you mean?  that quote shows him complaining about people rereleasing his code with different textures, not using his textures in other code, afaict
00:28.05kergothunless i'm missing something
00:28.21hyperChipmunkah, well then I don't blame 'em
00:28.25hyperChipmunki changed his textures too
00:28.45AmadeoI need some new Unit Frames to use
00:28.46hyperChipmunkeither way, I'm unsympathetic
00:28.48kergothi like the textures, myself.  i'd think about using his arc appearance in another hud
00:28.52Amadeoyet again
00:29.06Mikmaag`: so how's it going?
00:29.08kergothif he didnt want people taking either of his works, textures or code, he shouldve gotten a clue about copyright and licensing :P
00:29.18kergothbut ah well
00:29.30hyperChipmunknot that what he's doing now will accomplish ANYTHING
00:29.35kergothhe does have a point, in that in the US at least, copyright is implicit, and without an explicit license, nobody has any rights to use it even
00:29.47hyperChipmunkother than 'boo hoo I'm taking my ball and going home'
00:29.55kergothhehe
00:29.57ag`Mikma, I am currently adding updates to the menu
00:30.05hyperChipmunknot like he's profiting from it anyway
00:30.10ag`so when you change an option you can use it without /rl
00:30.18Mikmaag`: cool
00:30.40Mikmaag`: but isn't there a better way of getting the raidcolors?
00:30.49ag`I don't know
00:31.00ag`I will look into it in a minute
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00:32.21Grumpeyis the svn up ?
00:33.11Industrialwas down a sec ago
00:33.27kergothi want a blacklist/badapples list that lets me blacklist an entire guild
00:34.15Industrialyour mind? :P
00:34.20Industrial(sorry hehe :P)
00:34.28hastehyperChipmunk: what he does now will accomplish the oposite
00:34.35hastesomeone will pick it up, and continue on it
00:34.42haste(washes away the typos)
00:34.51ag`kergoth, just make Ace explode all thier items if they are on the list
00:34.56kergothhehe
00:35.06gnorlishohnoooooes, nil bug in oRA_Core
00:35.13hastegnorlish: 344?
00:35.14Grumpeyis it possible to display only debuffs on the player frame in oUF2 ?
00:35.23hasteGrumpey: edit the lua
00:35.29gnorlishyes haste
00:35.30hyperChipmunkyea, delete the code for buffs
00:35.33gnorlishnever seen it before
00:35.47hasteGrumpey: oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua and change debuff = false to debuff=true ;)
00:35.58hastegnorlish: give me a screen of your current raid, and leader status
00:36.02hastegnorlish: social panel -> Raid
00:36.08Grumpey.. I did . but it didn't seem to work unless i set buff to true?
00:36.12hasteI haven't been able to get that one myself
00:36.17hasteGrumpey: oh?
00:36.23hasteGrumpey: I'll test that in a sec
00:36.25NeronixGalka___: YOu must have last updatyed before I fixed all the bugs
00:36.36Galka___When did you fix the bugs?
00:36.40kergothis something up with the svn?
00:36.45Neronix2:30am UK time
00:36.47Galka___SVN is still down.  I haven't updated since last night.
00:36.52Galka___When is that in EST?
00:37.02Neronix9:30pm
00:37.10ag`how do I run a function by a string :-)
00:37.17Galka___I updated by then.
00:37.29Grumpey<PROTECTED>
00:37.31NeronixWeird...
00:37.34Galka___You don't understand.  I update like an OCD guy about to go berserk.
00:37.40Galka___I literally randomly update every hour or two.
00:37.50Galka___I also use Mr Plow every hour because I'm just that OCD.
00:38.09Neronix:P
00:38.10Mikmaag`: this line is from ChatMOD:
00:38.12kergothi mrplow constantly too
00:38.13Mikmaag`: -- because RAID_CLASS_COLORS is not working always as intended (dont figured out why exactly) I using this.
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00:38.27Mikmaag`: (insert here the colorcodes)
00:38.36Galka___If MrPlow didn't do anything, I'd still MrPlow
00:38.39ag`I will do that Mikma!
00:38.41Galka___Just because its something to click.
00:38.44kergothalright, who did archud2?
00:38.52kergoththe externals are wrong, they're on the main dir instaed of the Libs subdir
00:38.53hasteaah, I see the error Grumpey
00:38.57Galka___I badly want to use the damn SVN because IceHud looks so sexy
00:39.00Kaeltenback
00:39.00Amadeokergoth: That Ur-something guy :)
00:39.01Mikmaag`: nice and good colors in PerfectRaid <3
00:39.06kergothicehud makes my wow hang on login, galka :P
00:39.18kergothi use svk, which means i have a local mirror of upstream svn with all history. handy at times like this
00:39.36ag`Mikma, you mean the colors are in perfectraid or in chatmod?
00:39.37cladhaireicehud?
00:39.46Mikmaag`: i'll pastebin them both
00:39.50Galka___BTW DHUDBeta was updated!
00:39.50kergothcladhaire: new ace2 based hud thats on the svn
00:39.51Galka___Apparently.
00:39.57Industrialhttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info5174-Ludwig.html
00:39.57Galka___No notes on what was changed but its over at WOWI
00:40.00IndustrialItemDB anyone?
00:40.00Industrial:s
00:40.02Galka___That made me *glee*
00:40.20gnorlishhaste: http://destinysbane.com/album_pic.php?pic_id=310
00:40.22ag`thank you Mikma
00:40.27kergothIndustrial: yeah, its like itemdb only fast as hell to open and stuff, but without teh itemdb comm stuff
00:40.27ag`SVN working yet?
00:40.34gnorlishi shrunk it a little, it's from a widescreen monitor
00:40.37kergothIndustrial: its quite nice, and has a rudamentary linkerator for chat :)
00:41.13Industrialk
00:41.36kergothGalka___: fyi
00:41.51kergothGalka___: he just uploaded the same .zip's again, to ensure people see the note in the wowi pages about it being dead
00:41.56kergothGalka___: i just diff'd, there were no changes.
00:42.06Galka___Man :/
00:42.09Galka___Best HUD thus far
00:42.16Galka___And its abandoned :/
00:42.18Galka___*sniff*
00:42.31Amadeowait, which?
00:42.54Galka___DHUD Beta
00:43.00hyperChipmunkdrathal went on an emo-trip and made DHUD closed to only people in his guild
00:43.07Galka___Fucking for serious?
00:43.08hastegnorlish: thank you
00:43.12Galka___Quick someone leak it to us.
00:43.19Industrialits a crap code hud i think, it shaved like 30 fps off my 64 fps (seems to be max)
00:43.19Mikmaag`: http://ace.pastebin.ca/90758
00:43.21Amadeohaha wow
00:43.29Amadeowhat a dick
00:43.31Galka___Really Id?
00:43.32Mikmaag`: i'll arrange them now
00:43.36IndustrialGalka___: did for me
00:43.40hyperChipmunkarchud2 is great
00:43.50Industrialyeah but the arcs arent nice :<
00:43.52Galka___I can't stand ArcHUDs....arcs.
00:43.54hyperChipmunkI switched to it about a month ago
00:43.55Galka___^
00:44.03Amadeothe only thing ArcHUD needs is an easy way to change the rings :P
00:44.07Galka___Its hard to see and just ugly
00:44.15Galka___DHUD has the best bars I've seen
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00:44.16IndustrialIll just use unitframes below my character instead of a hud, thats my HUD
00:44.18hasteGrumpey: I'll commit a fix now, if the SVN is alive ;)
00:44.18Industrial;P
00:44.19Kebinusanhm I havent tried archhud in a while
00:44.35Galka___Hrm the DHUD FPS hit would make sense.
00:44.48kergothIndustrial: heh, yeah, i'm tempted to go back to that
00:44.50Galka___Does seem that my FPS has decreased but I couldn't put my finger on it.
00:44.54Grumpeytyvm Haste
00:45.06Industrialwhats the use of a hud really? its just like using 2 unitframe addons but one in the center of your screen
00:45.06Mikmaag`: http://ace.pastebin.ca/90762
00:45.07Galka___My HUD used to be Statusbars (old school) placed at cahracter level
00:45.09Galka___Best HUD ever :/
00:45.11Industrialkergoth: ^^
00:45.20Mikmaag`: seems like they are identical :)
00:45.24Industrialkergoth: seen my unitframes? heavily unfinished but the ieda is there
00:45.29ag`_Mikma, okies
00:45.32Galka___Well, StatusBars is abandoned and lacking new UI features
00:45.34kergothwell, when i use a hud, i generally disable my player and target unitframes, so its just one really
00:45.37Galka___So I had to find something else Id
00:45.42Galka___Same ehre Kergoth
00:45.42Industrialkergoth: ah right
00:46.07Mikmaag`_: aguf is 848KiB now
00:46.11ag`_ok
00:46.17kergothunless i needed clickcasting, and it looks like clique supports some of the huds, so..
00:46.25Galka___does oUF have a hide when out of combat feature?
00:46.30Galka___Thats the key to any HUD imo.
00:46.37ag`_I guess that isn't bad Mikma
00:46.42hasteYou can add that yourself VERY easily :p
00:46.54Mikmaag`_: well compare it to mg2, it's 50% smaller now
00:46.58Galka___You have no idea how inept I am at coding.
00:46.59kergothGalka___: good point
00:47.02Industrialah i found the name of the genre i totally love
00:47.03hasteI might be adding something similiar tho'
00:47.05IndustrialEPIC METAL
00:47.06hastein time
00:47.10Industrial\m/ -_- \m/
00:47.17ag`_Mikma, at least... Because you can set options too
00:47.23Galka___Im trying OHUD now
00:47.26Galka___Devla linked it
00:47.27Galka___But um
00:47.32Galka___The options are all slash commands
00:47.35Galka___And theres like a trillion of em
00:47.41Industrialkergoth: the huds can support clique, its really easy
00:47.42Amadeowhere are you guys finding all these HUDs?
00:47.45Mikmaag`_: btw, screw the GUI ;) and have the extra be LoD
00:47.59Industrialkergoth: made a plugin for clique in 20 secs
00:48.03Industrialfor idUnitframes
00:48.07ag`_I might move it over later Mikma
00:48.11Tupladhow do you get in Naxxramas ? :D
00:48.11Galka___Seriosuly someone leak Drathal's emohud to nonguildies!
00:48.17Galka___O_o
00:48.21Mikmaag`_: NOOOO! it's useless since you already have Dewdrop/AceOptions in
00:48.22Galka___Its in EPL near Plaguewood
00:48.28Tuplado_o
00:48.28Galka___One of the ziggurats
00:48.30ag`_Mikma, ok:p
00:48.33Mikmaag`_: the GUI is bloat! horrible memoryhogger
00:48.34kergothIndustrial: only annoying thing about using it with a hud is, for example, i use click casting on my hunter to switch aspects, and you switch aspects out of combat.. :)
00:48.44Industrialah yeah
00:48.47ag`_Mikma, you want me to remove dewdrop?:p
00:49.01Industriali dont use clique personally
00:49.04Mikmaag`_: hell no, it's so simple and easy config
00:49.15kergothclique rocks on my healers, have only started using it for other chars recently
00:49.16Industrialactivating the spell and clicking a unitframe works fine for me
00:49.22ag`_Not sure what you want then^_^. Did you find that color fix?
00:49.25Industrialeasier to remember too
00:49.39Mikmaag`_: i wan't you NOT to import the GUI from MG2
00:49.46ag`_Mikma, that's not the plan
00:49.52ag`_I am not going to do that =P
00:49.55*** part/#wowace Grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.88.18.213.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)
00:50.06ag`_It's too broken to be fixed, and I am not going to use that huge pile of stinking XML
00:50.21Mikmaag`_: and the colorfix... just don't use the RAID_CLASS_COLOR, use the values i pastebin'd
00:50.40ag`_ah, I didn't get highlighted
00:50.49Mikmaoh wow! /dev/null is 627KiB!
00:50.56Mikmaag`_: http://ace.pastebin.ca/90762
00:51.09ag`_yes, I found them
00:51.12Mikmaag`_: yeah you did but that one dropped
00:51.39Galka___wowzors
00:51.42Galka___Ohud IS rather sexy
00:51.49Galka___Trying it out now, and I was wrong, there is a GUI to it
00:52.03Kebinusanarc hud doesnt have bars atm it seems
00:52.25Gngskanyone know the name of the frame that the raid warnings print to?
00:52.28Gngskoff hand
00:53.12kergothGalka___: whats the ram usage on ohud?
00:53.29Galka___318kb
00:53.32MikmaWitchHunt is 604KiB
00:53.33Galka___Load on Demand options
00:53.40kergothcool, not bad at all
00:53.57kergothGalka___: url?
00:53.59MikmaAutoAttack is 876KiB ..
00:54.12Galka___One thing I love about DHUD that I cant seem to replicate in OHUD is the alignment of bars
00:54.17Galka___I like having MY bars on one side
00:54.20Galka___Target on another
00:54.32Mikmamy minimap ping addon 6KiB xD
00:54.32Galka___Not my hp and target hp on one, my mana, target mana on another
00:54.52kergothMikma: whats it do?
00:54.53TemTekkub, you around?
00:55.09Galka___Here you are my good man:  http://www.omegadrivers.net/files/wow/omega_hud_086.zip
00:55.13Galka___Kergoth ^
00:55.23kergoththanks :)
00:55.27Mikmakergoth: when someone other than you pings minimap it prints "foo pinged minimap" in chat.. yes, horrible flood if someone is annoying
00:55.36kergothMikma: ah
00:55.41kergothi like simpleminimap
00:55.47kergothit makes a mouseover tooltip for the pings
00:55.53Mikmayeap :)
00:55.53kergothjust mouse over it if you want to know who did it
00:55.57kergothhrm
00:56.01ag`_SVN up yet? I need to COMMIT ARGH motherland >_<
00:56.05Mikmai'm too lazy to mouseover the ping so i made that one hehe ;)
00:57.21kergothag`_: look into svk
00:57.23kergothMikma: ah, hehe
00:57.23Kebinusantrying ohud
00:58.31KyahxQuestion: Should I let anyone who is promoted broadcast the current MTs when someone new joins / syncs into the raid...or just the raid leader?
00:58.41hasteOnly raid leader IMO
00:58.43Kyahx(Fixing oRA_MainTank)
00:58.45Kyahxkk
00:58.52hastethe leader is almost always present
00:58.57Kyahxits working great BTW =)
00:59.07hasteand if the leader is offline more then X minutes, the leadership is transfered
00:59.15Kyahxleader only it is!
00:59.35hastethe solution CTRA uses, is faulty
00:59.37Mikmakergoth: http://pastebin.ca/90778 ;)
00:59.41hasteI have no idea how it works however
00:59.58Amadeogotta run! bbiab
00:59.58Kyahxjust means I need make all my guild officers / leaders to update :P
01:00.08hastehehe
01:00.24KyahxI've got half my guild switched :P
01:00.24kergothMikma: nice
01:00.33Kyahxand leaveing main tanks broken has gotten more to swtich... hehe
01:00.50Galka___Kergoth, type /ohud menu to config it easily
01:01.02Galka___Just thought id toss you a bone cuz my blindass eyes missed that command the first time
01:01.06haste*confused*
01:01.13Mikmascreenshots of ohud?
01:01.25KyahxI blamed CTRA for main tanks not working :P
01:01.34hasteYou should have poked me
01:01.40MikmaKyahx: so you stopped developing AceHeal ;)
01:01.41hasteI'm aware of basicly every problem there is with oRA
01:01.44hasteand how to solve it
01:01.47KyahxMikma: yea =/
01:01.58Kyahxhaste: I thought it was a problem with people running outdated CTRA
01:02.03kergothGalka___: hehe, i found it, because this looks like its based on another hud i used for a while, had the same commandline options
01:02.05Kyahxbecause some guilds who only run CTRA were haveing the same problem
01:02.08Galka___Mikma:  http://www.omegadrivers.net/files/wow/wowscrnshot_020406_163405.jpg
01:02.12hasteKyahx: I recommend you to poke me even tho' you think so
01:02.17kergothGalka___: i thought ohud was ugly as hell at first, but after hiding the borders i dont mind it so much
01:02.35Mikmaoh.. that
01:02.35Galka___Its configurable so you can get rid of stuff like the borders
01:02.35KyahxWill do =)
01:02.35gnorlishhaste: letting assists broadcast and whatnot takes some responsibility off the raid leader
01:02.35Galka___haha Kergoth!
01:02.35Galka___Same here
01:02.35Galka___Then again I hid borders on DHUD too
01:02.35kergothi quite like the look of the combo point display
01:02.41hastegnorlish: meep?
01:02.51KyahxWell, the leader should *always* be in the raid, meaing his MTs will get updated even if a promoted changes them
01:02.56hastethat bug was actually fixed in oRA before CTRAQ!
01:02.57haste-q
01:03.05Galka___Kergoth I also hated how far away the bars were
01:03.07Kyahx:)
01:03.07Galka___the left and right
01:03.08gnorlishi see what you mean
01:03.09Mikmakergoth: just use the iriel's original HUD ;) it's nice..
01:03.14Galka___then I saw the mash'em up option!
01:03.23Kyahxexcept the SVN is being wonky and I can't upload the change =/
01:03.23gnorlishso many people in my guild have been crying about how ctra is broken
01:03.32gnorlishi haven't gotten the courage to have them try oRA yet
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01:03.37gnorlishbecause then i'd have to deal with all of them
01:03.41Grumpeyblhe ./
01:03.50hastegnorlish: at least you don't have a whole server on your back :p
01:03.54KyahxoRA Menu came about so I could get my guild to switch :P
01:04.12Galka___Cant seem to find a way to change the offsets on the CastingTime though
01:04.16Galka___Thats kinda ugly up there
01:04.16KebinusanI should just go back to unit frames
01:04.43KebinusanI prefer the dhud, player left target right thing
01:04.44Galka___Also like that the buff/debuff icons are way larger than DHUDs
01:04.49Galka___Same here Kebu
01:04.53Galka___Thats the other feature thats irking me
01:04.58Galka___But beggars cant be choosers I guess :/
01:05.13Galka___Seems like switching from DHUD to OHUD netted me 1-fps too
01:05.13Galka___10
01:05.21Kebinusanwow
01:05.41Industrial;)
01:05.46KyahxI like dhud personally =/
01:05.52KyahxIm sad to see the project somewhat abandoned
01:05.54KebinusanI forgot to look :-/  the arc's were bugging me too much
01:06.01Kebinusansame Kyahx
01:06.16Industrialthe fps shit in dhud is mostly in the shading effect when you get hit
01:06.23Industrialor something drains
01:06.38Galka___I like DHUD as well Kyahx, wishing someone would leak the version he updates for his guild
01:06.45Galka___DHUD is still more attractive than OHUD
01:07.01*** part/#wowace Grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.88.17.41.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)
01:07.06KyahxYea, its visually attractive
01:07.10Kyahxbut not as efficent as it could be =/
01:07.12Kyahxnot nearly
01:07.24hyperChipmunkif you like BUBBLES
01:07.34Kyahxlol
01:07.40KyahxI just ment the bar shape itself
01:07.47Kyahxslightly curved but not as extream as ArcHUD rings
01:08.00hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
01:08.01Kebinusanagreed
01:08.01Galka___Exactly
01:08.08Galka___I dont care for the bubbles
01:08.10Galka___But the bars are lovely
01:08.11Kebinusanarchud wasnt giving me any bars
01:08.19hyperChipmunkyea, it isn't now for some reason
01:08.29hyperChipmunkwhen I updated this morning they went away
01:08.43Mikmaeveryone use TURBOSTATUS! http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2919-1-turbostatus-english-version.html
01:09.17kergothhttp://kergoth.com/images/wow_026.jpg is my shot of ohud
01:09.25hasteI don't get those huds...
01:09.30kergothignore the k/s in my fubar performance, some rogue addon is doing that whether the hud is up or not
01:09.31haste(turbostatus)
01:09.42hasteit's IMPOSSIBLE to see what the current values are
01:09.47hyperChipmunkif it's turbo then it must be better
01:10.03ag`_svnsvnsvn :(
01:10.06MikmahyperChipmunk: amen
01:10.08Galka___christ you like the bars to be that seperated?
01:10.14Mikmai'll rename Bartender to Turbotender
01:10.35hyperChipmunkTurboMail
01:10.44kergothme? no, i just havent tweaked it much yet
01:10.45KyahxTurboHeal
01:10.47Galka___What timestamps are those?
01:10.50KyahxTurboRaid?
01:10.52hyperChipmunkwow, those are pretty wicked, I must admit
01:10.56hasteag`_: I'm also up just to commit right now =\
01:11.01kergothi need to figure out which addon is being a bitch
01:11.08kergothin combat my k/s is like 300 :P
01:11.08KyahxTURBOACE
01:11.08KebinusanI hate wonkly tribal hud bars
01:11.10ag`_I need to commit now
01:11.16ag`_I have elite changes coming up
01:11.22hastelo
01:11.22IndustrialKebinusan: yeah how do you do that :P mine is like 1-2
01:11.34IndustrialI need to commit too
01:11.46Industrials/need/want/
01:11.54hastehmm, PTR is up ;O
01:12.00ag`_not in EU >.<
01:12.22Kebinusankergoth, do you use engbags?
01:12.27kergothnope, i use bagnon
01:12.35kergoth(with mrplow, naturally)
01:12.38ag`_onebag!
01:12.42Galka___Anyone here a Bagnon user who turned into a OneBag (Ace2) user?
01:12.58Kebinusanmy onebags dont seem to save posistion
01:12.59hyperChipmunkme, but i barely used bagnon
01:13.09Galka___I mean Bagnon is already damn great and light
01:13.13Galka___OneBag even lighter?
01:13.13hyperChipmunkneither do mine
01:13.19ag`_no bagnon on the svn I see
01:13.25hyperChipmunknot ace
01:13.26Galka___Its not an ace addon
01:13.34Kebinusanbagnon is good
01:13.43KebinusanI just prefer the laziness of updating addons via svn
01:13.44hasteag`_: I'm on EU...
01:13.45hyperChipmunki really wish onebag had a mrplow button
01:13.46kergothonebag is a bit heavier than bagnon from what i've seen so far
01:13.53kergothbut still looks nice
01:13.56Kebinusanhc, thats a nice idea
01:13.56hyperChipmunkright at the top
01:13.57Kebinusanheh
01:14.00hyperChipmunkso I could just punch it
01:14.00ag`_haste, so we can use the test now? Cool. See you there?:D
01:14.23hyperChipmunkI ought to just branch it myself
01:14.28hasteholy shit
01:14.34hastethe Interface Options has changed :OO
01:14.38Mikmaaye
01:14.52hyperChipmunkyea they mentioned that
01:15.05Mikmatake a screenshot and show us
01:15.13hastesure
01:15.16ag`_haste, can you give me the download likn?
01:15.16KyahxTest is up?
01:15.19ag`_I can't find it
01:15.27hyperChipmunkFLOATING COMBAT TEXT (tm)
01:15.46Kyahxheh
01:15.48Kyahxis it any good?
01:15.53hasteag`_: uhm, I downloaded some while ago, so no :<
01:16.08ag`_I can't find the shizzle
01:16.16ag`_send me the torrent haste -_-
01:16.37hasteag`_: I don't have one :p
01:16.49hasteI patched it from my laptop
01:16.52ag`_the downloader is the torrent, kinda
01:17.03Galkacry
01:17.06GalkaImma have to go back to DHUD
01:17.06hasteI've deleted it, that's the whole deal
01:17.11Galkacant abide opposing side player bars
01:17.29hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/1.12/
01:17.47Mikmawhat's the FCT like?
01:18.15Tupladauto self cast :O
01:18.15hasteI haven't tested yet :p
01:18.22hasteI've just logged in
01:18.24hasteand I'm enablding addons
01:18.27Kyahxmy question - is it a frame just like SCT is, or is it actually part of the 3D world
01:18.30hastechecking what's dying etc
01:18.46ag`_what's up with the paper background
01:18.47Mikmaoh lol
01:18.57Mikmayeah, blizzards own auto selfcast
01:19.05Kyahxgood
01:19.14hyperChipmunkBlizzard CombatText is checkable from the AddOns menu at character screen
01:19.42ag`_I need the testrealm patch >_<
01:19.42hastethey've fixed the sound issue btw
01:19.49hastefirst test passed!
01:20.39kergothhaste: nice
01:20.59Mikmamohr screenshots!
01:21.21cladhairesorry about the svn.. but it, along with assloads of websites are down right now: http://status.dreamhost.com/
01:21.55hyperChipmunkyou suck clad
01:22.15ag`_Hey, it's a priveledge, not a right, we can't complain. =)
01:22.27Tuplad<PROTECTED>
01:22.27Industrialhe was joking
01:22.29Industrial:P
01:22.37hyperChipmunkthat wasn't a complaint; it was an insult!
01:22.48ag`_~roulette
01:22.49purlACTION watches ag`_ pull the trigger:  Click!
01:22.49MikmahyperChipmunk: you fight like a cow.
01:22.55kergothjeuss, my k/s is like 15-30 at idle. what the hell is doing it
01:22.57kergothhrm
01:22.59Industrial~roulette
01:23.01purlACTION watches industrial pull the trigger:  BANG!
01:23.02hastecedega goes emo everytime I log out on 1.12 =\
01:23.07Industrialouch!
01:23.10IndustrialxD
01:23.18ag`_bai bai Industrial
01:23.26IndustrialX_X
01:23.34hyperChipmunkMikma: oh, man; it's been awhile
01:23.51hasteand I can see Blizzard_CombatText as an addon ON my addon list
01:23.54hasteat char screen
01:24.04kergothcool, so you could disable it from loading entirely?
01:24.12cladhairehaste: Thats probably intentional
01:24.27MikmahyperChipmunk: well i'm clad you remembered ;)
01:24.37kergothwhats your guys k/s when in combat with a mob?
01:24.38cladhairehyperChipmunk: Well I'm mikma you remembered ;P
01:24.43kergothmine spikes to 100 :(
01:24.48hyperChipmunkI totally forget the response to that one
01:24.56Mikmas/clad/scumm/
01:24.59hastecladhaire: hopefully
01:25.13cladhaireI'm checking on the raid UI and its tricksieness right now with legorol
01:25.14hastethey have also removed the FPS lock !
01:25.14hasteyay
01:25.34cladhaire?
01:25.35kergothfps lock?
01:26.03Mikmait's like a cocklock, only, not..
01:26.09Wobinhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5419944823518404383
01:26.11Wobinnsfw
01:26.16Mikmahaste: more screenies!
01:26.30hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/1.12/WoWScrnShot_071806_032509.png << and people say WoW runs shit under Linux
01:26.54kergothhaste: in the past, i've gotten better fps than in windows
01:26.59kergothbut i havent had that in a whiel :\
01:27.04Mikmahahahaha
01:27.07Mikmaneed glasses?
01:27.36hyperChipmunknice
01:27.42hyperChipmunkI haven't had it in awhile either
01:27.50hyperChipmunkbut I've not had any windows in awhile to compare it to
01:28.07Kyahxhaste: I couldn't get it working smooth =/
01:28.15Kyahxwound up re-installing windows
01:28.33hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/1.12/WoWScrnShot_071806_032646.png << it jumps from 120 to 190 in doors :p
01:28.49Kyahxheh
01:28.55kergothcan someone check their k/s increase during combat please?
01:28.57*** join/#wowace ckknight_ (i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com)
01:28.58Kyahxgeez, what kind of PC do you have?
01:29.07ag`_Mr. Haste
01:29.17Tupladnice gear haste
01:29.21hasteTuplad: Test server
01:29.45Tuplad:0
01:30.10ag`_real men uses athlon XPs on 2.1 voltage :(
01:32.07kergothis there a good standalone performance meter addon?
01:34.03Industrialamd athlon 64 dual core 2hgz
01:34.06Industrial<--^
01:34.14Mikmahmm
01:35.08Tuplad<- amd sempron 2ghz with 1gb ram ^_^
01:35.09Tupladlol
01:35.24Tupladflatscreen 1280x1024
01:35.55ag`_hmm
01:36.03ag`_I found the test server patch on a russian site
01:36.08TupladO_O
01:36.10ag`_should I doubleclick?
01:36.12ag`_haha
01:36.20ag`_blizzard.ru
01:36.26Tupladofc
01:36.31Tupladit's a well known site
01:36.51ag`_good
01:37.04ag`_nobody wants to give out links
01:37.20ag`_with about 10 google searches I found it on a russian site, pretty lame
01:37.30Tupladhttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/itemadvsearch.html?itemname=&itemclass=0&slot=0&binds=-1&stat1=0&statval1=&stat2=0&statval2=&stat3=0&statval3=&sort1=0&sortwt1=0&sort2=0&sortwt2=0&sort3=0&sortwt3=0&minlevel=&maxlevel=&mindps=&maxdps=&quality=5&speed=0&effect=0&showall=0&dep=n&locale=enUS&search=1
01:37.31Tuplad:O
01:37.33ag`_I still need a link to the character copy
01:37.35hyperChipmunkwhy not just use www.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr?
01:37.48Tupladso many legendaries o_O
01:37.52hastehyperChipmunk: eu
01:38.16ag`_haste, have the link to the character copy?
01:38.29hastenope :>
01:38.35hastes/>/</
01:39.01KyahxHow well does XRaid status work?
01:39.26hasteit works, but likes to pull memory
01:39.34Tupladhttp://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=13262 is this real ?
01:39.50ag`_http://test.worldofwarcraft.com/en/copy
01:40.11ag`_so for whoever wants to run the test on EU
01:40.19*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)
01:40.24ag`_get the patch from blizzard.ru and create a character there
01:41.11ag`_actually you can get the patch from the char transfer site
01:43.19hastewhy does a battle map pop up all the time :p
01:45.22kergoththere we go, acegcinfo, thats what i needed
01:46.04hyperChipmunkalrighty; got my interface on test all lined up
01:46.07hyperChipmunknow let's do some 'splorin
01:46.59hyperChipmunkgah, fullscreen interface options
01:47.12hyperChipmunkit's like EQ!
01:47.14*** join/#wowace quoin (n=mhowell@220-245-170-217.tpgi.com.au)
01:47.20hastehttp://www.beverpung.net/1.12/WoWScrnShot_071806_034350.png << floating combat text
01:47.23ag`_I am going to add a secret backdoor to all my addons with the 1.12 chat API
01:47.26Industrial"The stage is set for intense, objective-based land battles as Horde and Alliance vie for control over important strategic positions and resources around Azeroth. Head out for Silithus and Eastern Plaguelands to engage the enemy on the field!"
01:47.30Industrialwhat resources?
01:47.34Industrialis it like the notum towers in AO?
01:47.36ag`_Industrial, sand
01:47.49Industrialwhat do you mean sand
01:48.16ag`_the resources = sand
01:48.33Industrialwhat do you mean sand
01:48.38Industrialhaste: me so useh
01:48.42Mikmahttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6002479527438850286&q=genre%3Acomedy
01:48.44Mikmaput that on loop
01:48.59ag`_haste, that looks useless... Long live SCT
01:49.08kergothnot just useless, but ugly too
01:49.12IndustrialMikma: meh so old
01:49.12hasteag`_: yeh, it's SCT for blind people
01:49.18kergothsct and msbt
01:49.31ag`_isn't msbt the ripoff :)
01:49.45Industrialmore like better :P
01:49.48MikmaIndustrial: yes it's as old as dinosaurs, still you should loop it
01:49.52hasteeverything is a ripoff
01:50.03ag`_I can't remember if it was msbt
01:50.03kergothit isnt stolen code. it does the same sorts of things, yes
01:50.38Industrialhow do i loop it
01:51.10ag`_Ah, it's just Greyhoof saying that the author went line by line and copied his code :P
01:51.38Mikmahe also said sct5 will use ace2, he's 80% sure it will
01:52.03Mikmahaste: what's that map on the screen?
01:52.09hasteno idea :p
01:52.12hasteit keeps popping up
01:52.17hyperChipmunkthat's an honorfu thing
01:52.25hasteI don't have fubar
01:52.29hyperChipmunkweird
01:52.39hyperChipmunki don't know of any other addon that pops it up
01:52.40kergothag`_: if you look at his post, he says msbt didnt copy his code
01:52.52hyperChipmunkit's the battleground minimap
01:53.00ag`_yeah, ok
01:54.25hyperChipmunkit does that fountainy thing that SCT 'rainbow' does
01:54.45ag`_they probably didn't even add heals in the 3d world over those you heal
01:55.19hasteag`_: it's a addon, not a hardcoded thingy
01:55.25hastehmm
01:55.32hasteI get tossed to char screen when I do a /rl
01:55.45ag`_haste, they should get off their asses and fix healing
01:55.51hyperChipmunkhahahaha
01:56.05hyperChipmunk0.000 sec | Blizzard_CombatText (1 KiB)
01:56.20hyperChipmunksomehow I doubt it
01:56.28cladhairehttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=416391
01:57.51hastehyperChipmunk: :O CHEAT
01:59.23hyperChipmunkhttp://ace.pastebin.ca/90829
02:00.08hyperChipmunkhttp://ace.pastebin.ca/90831
02:00.33hyperChipmunkthe .lua and the .xml
02:00.52hyperChipmunkinteresting that it appears on the character screen list
02:01.00cladhaireok.
02:01.05cladhairewell i'd expect it to
02:01.14hyperChipmunktoo bad the other stuff doesn't
02:01.15cladhaireso it can be disabled without going to the interface options, imo
02:01.19hyperChipmunkyea
02:01.22hyperChipmunkit should be
02:01.26cladhairehyperChipmunk: The issue I see is that the text lines arne't dynamic.
02:01.27hyperChipmunkbut so should some other things that aren't
02:01.29cladhairesuch a perfect use for it.
02:01.41hyperChipmunkyea
02:02.01hyperChipmunkif you see 20 one-line fontstrings in a row, it's a good indication
02:02.44hyperChipmunkit's buggy too
02:03.16hyperChipmunkwhen I dodge something, there's like 4 GINORMOUS <Mongoose Bite!> text strings that pop up, all overlaid on each other so you can't read any of them +P
02:03.33cladhairelol
02:04.11IndustrialI copied a lv60 premade char to the test thing
02:04.14Industrialwhen i login there is nothing
02:04.16Industrialno chars
02:04.24hyperChipmunkpick the right server
02:04.29hyperChipmunkthere are 3
02:04.31Industrial2
02:04.41hyperChipmunkthere's pvp, pve, and rppvp
02:04.48Industriali saw only pvp and pve
02:04.56hyperChipmunkwhat kind of realm do you play on?
02:05.20Industrialnot my own char
02:05.22Industrialsome premade char
02:05.26Industrialor something :P
02:05.28hyperChipmunkoh, i duno then
02:06.18Industrialah you are right it was on the other server :P
02:06.41IndustrialI get to play a lv 60 first time now :>
02:07.05cladhairenight all
02:07.45hasteIndustrial: EU = PvE server
02:07.56hastebut I'm going to zhe bed now
02:07.58hastework again today ;D
02:08.02hastegood night
02:08.12hyperChipmunk[2. WorldDefense] : The Plaguewood Tower has been taken by the Horde!
02:08.25hyperChipmunk[2. WorldDefense] : Crown Guard Tower has been taken by the Alliance!
02:08.29gnorlishoh good lord
02:08.38gnorlishi guess i'm never joining that channel every again
02:08.52hyperChipmunkyea, I turned it on, and turned it right back off
02:09.22hyperChipmunkbe nice if you could see that on the worldmap
02:10.02hyperChipmunk[Reins of the Black War Tiger] are purple now! omg nerf!
02:11.26gnorlishhC, are you sure you understood my 2nd sentence with that horrible mistype
02:11.32gnorlishor should i have purl correct it
02:11.35gnorlishthe one letter
02:12.41hyperChipmunkno, I understood
02:12.53hyperChipmunki just never had it ever on in the first place
02:13.41hyperChipmunktest realms should get Captain Placeholder
02:14.39hyperChipmunkthe inspect thing is normal again
02:15.30kergothargh, slowly enabling addons one at at ime takes a long fucking time
02:16.22gnorlishdo it binary search style!
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02:17.25hyperChipmunkheh, all the alliance hunters have raptor mounts
02:17.27kergotha binary search is only useful if the list is sorted :P
02:17.31kergothuseless for this
02:17.31hyperChipmunkthe premades
02:17.32kergothhrm
02:17.46hyperChipmunkkergoth: no, he means split it in half
02:17.54hyperChipmunkand if the spike persists, then it's in that half
02:18.00hyperChipmunkthat's what I do
02:18.10hyperChipmunkwhen checking weird bugs
02:18.14TemhyperChipmunk, the PTR is up now?
02:18.17hyperChipmunkyea
02:18.40TemI tried earlier and they were down
02:18.57hyperChipmunkwell, um
02:19.01hyperChipmunkthey're not
02:19.03hyperChipmunk=P
02:19.10hyperChipmunkeither that or I am hax0r
02:19.21Grumpeyand Twisting Nether goes boom
02:19.55TemhyperChipmunk, so how does the world pvp work?
02:20.12hyperChipmunkit spams WorldDefense a lot
02:20.25hyperChipmunki'm checking champhall first to see if I can buy GM weapons
02:20.30hyperChipmunkcuz everyone's going to ask me
02:20.48hyperChipmunkheh, ALL alliance premades have raptor mounts
02:20.57hyperChipmunkstormwind is infested
02:21.18hyperChipmunksick-looking dinosaur mounts everywhere O_o
02:21.37hyperChipmunklol wrath shoulders for everyone
02:21.41kergothhyperChipmunk: ah, right
02:21.42kergothhrm
02:22.16TemhyperChipmunk, what did they give mages?
02:22.29hyperChipmunkduno, haven't seen one yet
02:23.18ag`_testrealms wasn't that fun :S
02:23.33TemI managed to transfer my main yesterday
02:23.53Tembut I'll probably get a premade too
02:24.30hyperChipmunkfriggin raptors
02:24.45hyperChipmunkfor some reason the GCs are extremely harsh
02:25.58hyperChipmunkheh everyone's looking at me weird cuz I don't look like everyone else
02:26.10hyperChipmunkall the hunters have this horrible mishmash of equipment
02:26.19ag`_Priests have gimp gear
02:26.28hyperChipmunkand I'm running around in my perfectly matched gold field marshal attire and GM handblades
02:26.45hyperChipmunkfind a hunter
02:26.52ag`_Epic mace of eternal uselessness +189
02:26.55hyperChipmunktry nto to laugh at his sense of style
02:26.56kergothmjc: groupcalendar = 5-10K/s memory increase at idle :\
02:27.13mjcyeah
02:27.21mjcit's got a leak somewhere
02:27.34ckknight_that's icky
02:27.43ag`_the priest gear of +900 useless
02:28.01ag`_360 tick renew? lol.
02:28.11hyperChipmunkhunters get Vest of Swift Execution (a leather item)
02:28.19kergothlooks like guildmap is 1-2K/s, i can deal with that as long as its temporary allocations that get freed at gc
02:28.24Temag`_, they gave people t3?
02:28.32hyperChipmunkmages:
02:28.40hyperChipmunkmindflayer helm
02:28.46Temenigma shoulders
02:28.51ag`_Tem, I have 3 tier 2 items, and random epics.. but they're really, really good
02:28.53TemNW robe
02:28.56ag`_for a healbot that is
02:28.57hyperChipmunknetherwind gloves and robe
02:29.01ag`_they're pretty useless actually
02:29.04TemTear
02:29.05hyperChipmunkenigma shoulders and legs
02:29.11TemThreat trinket
02:29.22Tembroodlord cloak with subtly enchant
02:29.26hyperChipmunkc'thun ring
02:29.32Temgloves have +20 fire
02:29.37hyperChipmunkand dragonslayer ring
02:29.40Temya, so the same crap they gave us last time
02:30.04hyperChipmunkArathi Basin 45
02:30.06hyperChipmunkO_o
02:30.08hyperChipmunkand 0 wsg
02:30.12ag`_It was a bit more cool when they gave priests neltharions tear
02:30.21hyperChipmunkAV13
02:30.30hyperChipmunkI'm in AB44!
02:31.05kergothmjc: did you check gem?
02:31.06hyperChipmunkhaha the three test servers are in a battlegroup
02:31.17mjcgem? :p
02:31.20mjcoh
02:31.25mjcinterface blows
02:31.31kergoth:\
02:31.44mjcand I mean, blows
02:31.44kergothit any more efficient than guildcalendar?
02:31.53ag`_Dreamhost says the problems are gone, gogo setup the SVN
02:31.59ag`_nah...going to bed
02:32.17hyperChipmunk[Gnomeanator-Test Server (RPPVP)] has joined the battle.
02:33.46hyperChipmunkautomatic raidparty in battleground
02:34.41hyperChipmunkthey seemed to have disabled communication O_o
02:34.44hyperChipmunkI can't speak in the raid
02:36.30hyperChipmunkI can't send /tells to players not from my realme ither
02:36.30kergothbah, guildeventmanager spikes the ram usage quite a bit more than guildcalendar initially, probably the receipt of new events
02:36.48kergothdrops to lower than guildcalendar after that though, averaging like 1-3K/s
02:36.52hyperChipmunk~or invite them
02:37.02kergothmust be less random spam in the chnanel for gem
02:38.23hyperChipmunklol error: [22:38-2997] Couldn't load Blizzard_CombatText: Disabled
02:38.31hyperChipmunkthat's cuz I disabled you, punk
02:38.36hyperChipmunkthat isn't an error
02:39.21kergothhah
02:39.26kergothshould report that
02:40.55Gngskowned
02:41.27hyperChipmunk~the battleground lag is atrocious
02:41.28purlokay, hyperChipmunk
02:41.41hyperChipmunkoops x=
02:41.49hyperChipmunk~forget the battleground lag
02:41.49purli didn't have anything called 'the battleground lag' to forget, hyperChipmunk
02:41.55hyperChipmunk~forget the
02:41.56purlhyperChipmunk: i forgot the
02:42.25hyperChipmunkha
02:42.30hyperChipmunkthere's no resource accumulation
02:42.35hyperChipmunkI just noticed
02:42.41hyperChipmunkwondered why it seemed to be going on forever
02:46.41TemhyperChipmunk, does the Combat Text have incoming and outgoing damage as well?
02:51.01kergothhuh, stopthelagness doesnt seem to do anything at all
02:52.06Kaeltenkergoth are you running it along side KC_Items?
02:52.22hyperChipmunkyes
02:53.09kergothnot i, dont have kci loaded
02:53.54Kaeltenk, I know I tested stop the lagness not too long ago and the need was still there, I ended up embeding it into KCI so that if stop the lagness is not present then kci's copy kicks in
02:54.09mjcFryGuy-: around?
02:55.19kergothmaybe i'm just not testing well, very possible
02:55.27kergothwhat am i lookign for?
02:56.50Kaeltenon item mouseover ram usage goes up
02:57.17Kaeltenits not as prevelent if you're not using a mod that does something to the item tooltips on mouseover
02:57.56KaeltenTuran wanted to find other similar things and add them into it, but that never came to fruition
02:58.10hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/testab.jpg
02:58.27hyperChipmunkit's like Highlights for Children
02:58.36hyperChipmunkCan you spot 7 rogues in the above picture?
02:58.39kergothi'm showing a 6K/s increase on mouseover of an item whether stopthelagness is in or out. let me enable mendeleev and check that
03:01.04kergothi dunno, with mendy enabled i can mouse over an item, wait for it to stabilize, and i see roughly 13-14k/s after it stabilizes.  with stopthelagness loaded it never drops below 18K/s
03:01.24hyperChipmunk12/15 horde in that battle were rogues, 11 of which were undead
03:01.39kergothhah
03:01.49kergothundead rogues look cool, i'll give em that
03:01.54kergothi like troll ones myself though, berserk
03:02.26hyperChipmunkthat was the 12th
03:02.48kergothKaelten: tested again, with mendeleev adding data to the jade in my inventory, the K/s is higher on average with stopthelagness than without
03:03.06kergoth13-14 vs 18-22 (both occasionally spiking beyond those bounds)
03:03.17kergoth(using acegcinfo to test)
03:03.36Kaeltenhrm, maybe blizz fixed it
03:03.58KaeltenI'll look at it soon and see if its need has passed.
03:03.59kergothwithout mendy, the K/s is identical with and without it
03:04.10kergoth(nothing adding to hte item tooltip)
03:05.56hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/mongoose.png
03:06.30hyperChipmunkthe floating combat text is pretty bad; I just wish I could get some real figures on the memory usage
03:06.43hyperChipmunkrather than 0.000 second load and 1KiB, which i am certain is incorrect
03:12.21mjcwhat mod is that, msbt?
03:13.24Gngsklol, that's blizz' implementation?
03:14.13kergothdamn thats ugly
03:14.59ckknight_Jesus was a masochist
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03:18.06Maxinnanybody know of a way to detect when a spell cooldown is completed?
03:22.27Gngskcheck spell cooldown every second?
03:24.18Maxinnactually execute a script on the event - when the cooldown is over on a particular button
03:24.56MaxinnI'm trying to run a script which plays a sound file when the cd is over on a spell (button)
03:25.35Maxinncooldownmet event in flexbar is being triggered by the global cooldown :(
03:29.06gnorlishtoss a conditional that check for cooldown > 1s?
03:31.23Maxinnthe global cooldown is 1s right?
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03:33.30gnorlishgive or take a small amount of time
03:34.25Maxinndo you know the syntax for if cooldown >1s ?
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03:52.33Maxinnanybody know how to find the spell id number from the spell book?
03:53.42hyperChipmunkyou look on wowwiki.com and find the API function
03:54.51hyperChipmunkalternatively, you look in Spellbook.lua in your FrameXML and see how it's done there
03:55.15Maxinnthx
03:55.32Maxinnscript x, y = GetSpellName(81, 1); SendChatMessage(x, "WHISPER", "COMMON",UnitName("player"));
03:55.56kergothfyi, if anyone here uses the "coolDown" addon, which is a cooldown display, quite nice and functional
03:56.00hyperChipmunklooks like GetSpellName is a good place to start looking in the Wiki
03:56.04kergothit causes a 75-120K/s ram usage spike during combat
03:56.05kergoth:'(
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04:02.36Kyahx|afkI am not going to miss my isp come tomarrow
04:02.38Kyahx|afkgrrr
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04:06.33Amadeo:)
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04:09.39Amadeowhat unit frames do you all use?
04:10.38TainWatchDog
04:10.43TainAnd PerfectRaid
04:11.37AmadeoI can't get WatchDog set up like I want it :(
04:12.32kergothoUF and perfectraid here
04:13.08AmadeooUF1 or 2?
04:14.01AmadeoSVN is dead?
04:14.03Amadeo:(
04:14.05kergothouf2
04:14.06kergothyep
04:14.17IndustrialInto the arms of armageddon. Let it pour, more and more.
04:14.30IndustrialPURE FUCKING ARMAGEDDON! LET IT POUR! MORE AND MORE!
04:14.30Amadeowhat happened to it?
04:15.01IndustrialI remember wild concerts :P
04:16.38Maxinncan you add a delay in a script?
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04:17.43kergothMaxinn: delay?
04:18.13Maxinnlike wait 6s before playing a sound
04:18.51KemayoSVN down?
04:19.45kergothMaxinn: if you delay without returning control to wow for that long, you'll halt all processing of the ui, and likely disconnect from the server
04:19.54hyperChipmunkhas been for awhile; probably still is
04:20.05kergothMaxinn: you probably want to use an onupdate and check how much time has passed
04:20.11kergothMaxinn: but its easier to just use Timex
04:21.02Maxinndamn.. this seems impossible.. I'm trying to play a sound when the cooldown on a button is over but the global cooldown start and stop is messing things up
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04:28.57KebinusanThis is kinda cool http://christophe.calmejane.free.fr/wow/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25
04:35.24ckknight_anyone know how to fake a folder as if it were a CD-ROM drive?
04:36.00hyperChipmunkmkisofs and mount it?
04:36.40ckknight_ah, in Windows
04:36.58hyperChipmunkisn't there equivalents?
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04:37.01ckknight_yea
04:37.03ckknight_it'd work
04:37.18ckknight_I just know there's a better way
04:37.18hyperChipmunkin linux, there's no difference
04:37.25kergothidcard is cute
04:37.26kergothits in my set now
04:37.34hyperChipmunkis there anything not in your set?
04:37.56Kyahx|afkI bet Khaos isnt
04:38.05hyperChipmunki bet it is
04:38.09Kyahx|afklol
04:38.32kergothoh hell no :)
04:38.40kergothactually i removed about 15 addons so far today :P
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04:38.54kergothi painstakingly checked the idle and combat ram increase rate as i enabled the addons
04:38.58kergothwent through almost all of them
04:39.03kergothkilled some inefficient ones
04:39.13kergothhttp://kergoth.com/images/wow_027.jpg
04:39.34kergoth(see the Inc. rate on the fubar, much better than the 150K/s the other day :P)
04:39.36Maxinnxkergoth what do you use to check ram increase rate?
04:39.42kergothacegcinfo works really well
04:39.47kergothbut fubar's performance plugin can do it too
04:39.52kergothacegcinfo works with or without fubar though
04:40.19Maxinnxis that the best way to see which mods are slowing down your system the most?
04:40.51ckknight_you can't know on a per-mod basis except through endpoint titration
04:41.13kergothi enabled the addons one or two at a time, comparing behavior before and after of both fps and ram usage
04:41.18kergothpain in the ass
04:42.17Maxinnxmy system seems to be much slower in instances like MC... is that cuz of addons or the instance?
04:42.36Industrialthats the same thing
04:42.36Industrial:P
04:43.04Industrialdepends on what addons ofcource
04:46.27Kyahx|afkanyone have a better link for the test server?
04:46.33Kyahx|afktest server patch*
04:53.50ckknight_grr
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04:54.02ckknight_how do I get mkisofs for windows?
04:54.03ckknight_:-P
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05:29.14Kebinusanhmm updated eng bag http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4333-1-engbags-updated.html
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05:38.35hyperChipmunknice, filesize is 2x the original
05:39.51mjcis there a minimap-based instance map mod?
05:41.17kergothafaik atlas is now using the better quality maps, which were based on the minimap
05:41.26mjccool
05:41.37mjcatlasloot enhanced in curse now btw
05:49.19Kebinusanmjc yatlas
05:49.25mjcno instances
05:49.32Kebinusanhm ok I stand corrected
06:02.47mjcthe PTR charactersa re fucking decked out
06:02.49mjcholy crap
06:03.41Amadeobetter than last time?
06:03.52Maxinnxanybody know how to use Timex?
06:04.30Amadeoah, I should sleep
06:04.31Amadeonight :)
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06:51.08hyperChipmunksup noober
06:55.59hyperChipmunkgood god
06:56.09hyperChipmunkthis guy actually made EngInv MORE bloated
06:56.12kergothhahah
06:56.14kergothwow
06:58.58hyperChipmunkand added 500k to the total size-on-disk, too...it can now be skinned to taste!
06:59.06hyperChipmunk(or lack thereof)
06:59.40hyperChipmunk[staharaj@hyperion]$ du -sh Eng*
06:59.40hyperChipmunk936KEngBags
06:59.40hyperChipmunk584KEngInventory
07:01.56hyperChipmunkyou know, cuz if there was one thing I really disliked about the original EngInv, it was the lack of a 64x64 pandaran brewmaster portrait in the corner
07:02.48kergothheh, if i grab the current icehud or bulkmail with latest ace2, my wow hangs on login, if i'm lucky
07:03.06hyperChipmunkhm
07:03.07hyperChipmunksec
07:04.15kergothhrm
07:04.48CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5067 10Ace2/AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua:
07:04.48CIA-11AceTab:
07:04.48CIA-11- More fiddling with efficiency
07:04.56hyperChipmunkI don't think anything actually loads acetab yet, though, so... =P
07:05.02hyperChipmunkbut I know that works
07:05.33ckknightMandarin is complicated...
07:05.57ckknightwhy do you need 4 syllables for "boy"?
07:06.11hyperChipmunkhe might be a fake girl
07:06.19ckknightthat's also 4 syllables
07:07.14hyperChipmunkmakes you spend enough time saying it that you can ponder its accuracy while you do so
07:08.59kergothyep, current ace2 causes an immediate disconnect on login, or a hang, depending
07:09.09kergothenable the ace2 standalone addon, cant login
07:09.14kergothdisable it, in the ah no problem
07:09.39hyperChipmunksee what happens if you remove acetab from the toc =P
07:09.42kergothsaw this with a number of addons that tried to pull current ace2 externals as well, bulkmail and icehud are two of them
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07:10.43hyperChipmunki can almost guarantee it's my fault
07:11.25gnorlishgood one hC
07:11.30gnorlishmake everyone hate ace
07:11.56kergothremoving it from the .toc didnt solve it, i still get immediate disconnect
07:11.56hyperChipmunk'twas my ebil plot all along
07:12.04hyperChipmunkO-o
07:12.13hyperChipmunkit's not my fault!
07:14.11FryGuy-woot
07:14.14FryGuy-got heigan down.
07:14.24FryGuy-unfortunately the timers are way messed up :(
07:14.34XLVIIjust curious
07:14.43XLVIIcan i run ace2 and ace1 at the same time/
07:14.54XLVIIso ace2 addons can use ace2, vica versa..
07:15.11FryGuy-ya
07:15.19XLVII~seen ag`
07:15.31purlag` <n=Andreas@0x535cbbaa.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 35m 4s ago, saying: 'SVN working yet?'.
07:15.34kergothace2 and ace1 are so fundamentally different that they could have been named something else entirely
07:15.45kergothno relationship between the two at all
07:16.40hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/engbags.png <--witness the madness yourselves...if youdare
07:18.10hyperChipmunkhe's taken EngInv, and ADDED keyrings and skinning
07:19.01hyperChipmunkhow in crap do you look at enginv's code and think, "this is good, but it could be better. let me add a few things'
07:19.25hyperChipmunkmy brain cannot wrap itself around this mystery
07:20.28hyperChipmunklook, instead of empty bagslots, you get picturres of the bags that have the empty slots...and all the keyring empty slots, designated by a picture of keys
07:20.49hyperChipmunkthe entire point of an addon such as this is that it doesn't MATTER what bags you have things in
07:21.27hyperChipmunkwhy would i care to know the bag to which an empty slot belongs?!
07:23.26ckknightkergoth, right
07:23.41hyperChipmunkand this is wonderful...you open it with your bag hotkey...but you have to click the X in the corner to close it
07:23.47ckknightbasically, Ace2 is a project that stole ideas from Ace1
07:24.01ckknightgranted, it stole ideas from Sea and such as well
07:24.07hyperChipmunkckknight: excuse me.  I'm RANTING here
07:24.18ckknightyour mom's ranting here.
07:24.25hyperChipmunkdo you MIND!?
07:24.49hyperChipmunkI stoled my ideas from zsh
07:28.20hyperChipmunkand EngBags still shoots up to 120KiB/s when I shoot my gun
07:31.25sedatedChipmunkg'night folks
07:33.00sedatedChipmunkpurl, goodnight
07:33.01purlHave a goodnight!
07:33.07sedatedChipmunkthanks! you too
07:33.38KemayoGoodnight!
07:35.26ckknighthttp://www.toothpastefordinner.com/071806/chronically-depressed-meat.gif
07:35.58Solelol
07:48.00ckknightis there Japanese WoW?
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08:15.56SoltanisHello All
08:22.05ckknighthey Soltanis
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08:35.40KebinusanIceroth,, Im guessing the increasing rate on engbags is terrible still eh?
08:36.08Kebinusandamn tab completion
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09:19.35CIA-1103sole * r5069 10Soap/ (Options/SoapOptions.xml Soap.lua Soap.toc):
09:19.35CIA-11Soap:
09:19.35CIA-11- "only show casting time" option now works
09:19.35CIA-11- fixed "only casting time" and "stop bars on hostile death" checkboxes in the options menu
09:19.35CIA-11- fixed bug where if a player casts a spell more than once then after the first time the bars wont appear for that player and spell
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10:24.33kergothhaha, i used my everlook transporter
10:24.42kergothand now it says, as a debuff, that i've been replaced by my evil twin
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10:37.27XLVIIag, mind checking your memo? ;)
10:40.04CIA-1103ag * r5070 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files): ag_UnitFrames - Dropdown menus will now update the unit frames
10:40.26ag`XLVII, memo?
10:43.21CIA-1103otravi 07otravi * r5071 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Displaying of debuffs no longer requires buffs also to be enabled.
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11:01.19Tupladwow oh no, im so sorry i didnt read it properly, wow ur so smart. Even tho in real life, im a premed major with a full scholarship to my college, with a 3.8 gpa. WOW you know how to install a mod for a game, cool. That will get you far. Also i did read it, but didnt understand it, not everyone uses their time to for game realted things, and third i did to that, but there was a problem as i stated in my other post. please reply so we can cont. t
11:01.19Tupladwonderful convo.
11:01.21Tupladlol !
11:01.51TupladI like the real life part :D
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11:03.15XLVIIdoes anyone have a twink guide for a horde warrior (19)?
11:04.24Tupladvisit DM
11:10.31ag`Tuplad, where's that from :P
11:10.59Tupladforums
11:11.09TupladI laughed
11:14.32ag`he sounds a bit selfconsious
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11:23.03Slaymanmornings
11:23.07Slaymanhey guys
11:24.17Industrialmorning
11:25.11kergothhey
11:25.29hastemorning
11:25.33Industrial< XLVII> does anyone have a twink guide for a horde warrior (19)?
11:25.35Industrialthats not so hard
11:25.51hasteThe twink master saw your question!
11:25.58Industrialfor starters get the tho handed axe that drops in SFK
11:25.59Slaymando you think this:  http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4226   is a FuBar EmoteMenu Ripoff? well judging the emotedata.lua it clearly is !!!
11:26.02Industrialand get engineering to 150
11:26.09Industrialfor the green tinted goggles
11:26.19Industrialshould keep you going for a while =P
11:27.06IndustrialSlayman: its EmoteMenu FOR titan
11:27.14Industrialand EmoteMenu FOR FuBar :P
11:27.43hasteand the titan version was out first?
11:27.48SlaymanIndustrial: I've added a new gsub to idChannelNames  [  text = string.gsub(text, '%[Raid Leader%]', 'RL') ] i felt it was missing. So the author is the same?
11:28.05hasteIndustrial: commit!
11:28.32Slayman## Author: Cilraaz  == ## Author: Dsanai ??  i don't get this !
11:29.00hasteI don't get the problem either
11:29.11IndustrialSlayman: actually im about to commit that to svn
11:29.19Neronix`sleepIndustrial: How do I turn up the gamma in DaoC? O.o
11:29.22hastethen again, I didn't use Titan Panel, and I don't use FuBar
11:29.23Neronix`sleepI can't see shit
11:29.40haste~poke Industrial
11:29.41purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Industrial, pokes Industrial repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
11:29.48CIA-1103id * r5072 10idChatChannelnames/idChatChannelnames.lua: idChatChannelnames: The addon now distinguishes between normal raid messages and raid leader messages. It shows raid leader messages prepended with 'R' and normal raid messages prepended with 'r'. This is untested.
11:29.50Industrialthere we ho
11:29.52Industrialgo*
11:30.17IndustrialNeronix: YOu already logged in on Uthgard?
11:30.34NeronixYeah
11:30.38Industrialoh good
11:30.38Industrial:D
11:30.46Industrialwell at the char selection theres the options screen
11:31.00Slaymanmy point is, what's the original and what's the ripoff? was TitanEmoteMenu First or was FuBar EmoteFu first. What's original what's copy. Blue Pill or Red Pill .....
11:31.12NeronixIndustrial: Yeah, but I don'y see a gamma option
11:31.35hasteSlayman: investigate yourself
11:31.43Slaymantoo lazy
11:31.44hasteSlayman: todays hint: Changelog
11:31.52IndustrialNeronix: ah you're right
11:31.58Industrialsec ill ask i some channels
11:33.15IndustrialSlayman: My point of view is that it doesnt matter as long as they dont know the other exists (one has to) or they both dont care. If the users like it then yay.
11:33.29kergothIndustrial: http://kergoth.com/images/wow_027.jpg (current setup, though the oUF unitframes on the bottom are no longer enabled)
11:33.36IndustrialNeronix: you cant
11:33.42NeronixIndustrial: :(
11:33.51NeronixI'll see if I can do it driver-side then
11:34.13Industrialyeah :X
11:36.25Industrialhey Neronix I figured that the best combo we can make is Warrior+Shaman or Warrior+Healer
11:36.54Industrialthat means one of us gets to tank and the other gets to buff, /stick, and heal once in a while
11:37.00Industrial:P
11:37.18IndustrialWe can ofcource always try something different with tank+caster
11:38.01Industrialbut DaoC mob aggro lists work pretty intelligently. they pick the DD casters quite fast so you'd have to keep dps low :<
11:40.46Industrialkergoth: on last.fm: I want to be able to listen to two entirely different genres/collections of music genres
11:40.59Industrialnamely hardcore/industrial/power noise and different kinds of metal
11:41.37IndustrialNow its one of the two because it would mix them up and thats weird :P
11:42.01IndustrialAnd i'd like to clean my whole hate/love list
11:42.06Industrialdo you know how to do this?
11:42.12Industrialor is there a last.fm irc channel :p
11:46.34hastehttp://www.last.fm/user/haste/ << haha, now that's old ;D
11:48.00kergothdont know offhand, you should see mine
11:48.16kergothmy last.fm streams jump from fucking louis armstrong to viking metal
11:48.21kergothits odd
11:50.04Tupladkergoth:
11:50.07Tupladwhat hud is that on your screenie ?
11:50.52kergoththats OHUD
11:50.58kergothswitched to it since dhud isnt maintained now
11:51.09kergothhttp://www.omegadrivers.net/files/wow/omega_hud_086.zip
11:51.17kergothgalka posted the link earlier
11:52.36hasteOmegadrivers, now with WoW add ons!
11:52.47kergothhehe
11:52.51Tuplad:O
11:52.53Tupladcool
11:52.54kergothit works well
11:53.09kergoththe main addon uses 124K according to warmup
11:53.11kergothwhich isnt bad at all
11:56.37NeronixIndustrial: I was thinking of picking some hybrid like a thane
11:56.46NeronixAnd what's /stick?
11:57.51Industrialauto follow but closer
11:57.53Industrialyou can do it to enemies
11:57.54Industrialtoo
11:58.00Industrialalways do that in rvr/pvp
11:58.02Industrial;P
11:58.13NeronixI see
11:58.33Industrialthane is cool
11:58.35Industrial:)
11:59.44Industrialhttp://daoc.catacombs.com/forum.cfm?ThreadKey=10853&DefMessage=693096&forum=48
12:01.01Neronix`afkI'll deal with stuff later :P
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12:10.01CIA-1103silverwind * r5073 10BlackSheeps/ (BlackSheeps.lua BlackSheeps.xml):
12:10.01CIA-11BlackSheeps:
12:10.01CIA-11- Added support for debuffs
12:10.01CIA-11- UI is now 2*20 rows
12:10.01CIA-11- Refresh button added to UI
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12:20.03Industrial...ddOns\idActionBar\Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:298: AceHook-2.0: The object you supplied could not be found, or isn't a table.
12:20.17Industrial:|
12:20.25IndustrialId added the ace2 external before you ask
12:20.41Industrialand Ace2\ is there
12:21.12Mikmawell atleast svn works
12:23.12CIA-1103ag * r5074 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames - Added function "CallUnitMethods". Pass a type ("player","party",etc) and a unit class method to have all unit objects of that type run that method. Handy for the dewdrop menu.
12:23.40Mikmaag`: how about the warriorbug? ;)
12:23.54ag`I put in that color table you gave me
12:23.57ag`so check it out
12:24.01Mikmammkays
12:24.54CIA-1103silverwind * r5075 10EnhancedLootFrames/ (5 files): EnhancedLootFrames: Initial Import (v0.5)
12:32.08ag`Mikma, is it working :O
12:32.32Mikmaag`: dunno yet i'm just waking up :D
12:32.37Mikmahttp://www.snabbstart.com/film/roesterna-fraan-the-simpsons.aspx
12:32.44ag`okie
12:32.44ag`s
12:35.30CIA-1103kaelten * r5076 10OneView/OneView.lua: OneView - fixed frame height bug.
12:36.26Mikmaag`: ok testing it now
12:36.30ag`ok
12:38.20Mikmaag`: no error
12:38.37ag`Mikma, guess that's good
12:39.08Mikmayeah, i'm still testing it tho
12:39.32Mikmayeah, no errors atleast with my tests
12:41.33Mikmaag`: btw, test "HideMana" for player ;) the background does not resize properly when you hide it
12:42.12ag`I've seen it yep
12:45.37CIA-1103ag * r5077 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames - Added some more options, fixed manabar hiding for player/pet doing funny stuff
12:55.26CIA-1103ag * r5078 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Themes.lua ag_UnitClass.lua): ag_UnitFrames - Fixed a bug with powerbar pecentage style
12:56.18Mikmaoh ffs :D i'm just updating the 5077 rev ;D
12:57.01ag`~roulette
12:57.02purlACTION watches ag` pull the trigger:  Click!
12:57.16Mikma~roulette
12:57.17purlACTION watches mikma pull the trigger:  Click!
12:57.44ag`I feel like adding perfectraid, idframes and oUF frame styles as a proof of concept
12:59.08ag`~roulette
12:59.10purlACTION watches ag` pull the trigger:  Click!
12:59.42Mikma:D
13:00.02Neronix`afk~roulette
13:00.03purlACTION watches neronix`afk pull the trigger:  Click!
13:00.25Neronix~roulette
13:00.26purlACTION watches neronix pull the trigger:  BANG!
13:00.34Mikmaolé!
13:00.38Neronix:<
13:01.23ag`~roulette
13:01.25purlACTION watches ag` pull the trigger:  Click!
13:01.30ag`wohoo!
13:01.35Mikma~rinsult
13:01.50Neronix~whalecrit Mikma
13:01.52purlACTION crits Mikma with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #Nan. Mikma dies
13:02.26Mikmarez plz
13:07.57Mikmakk :(
13:07.59Mikmai'll walk
13:11.57Jagobahhey :(
13:12.55NeronixYay, Blizzy has apparently obsoleted ParserLib!
13:13.08Neronix(And the need for all other mods to do their own parsing)
13:13.18NeronixUnless I read something wrong
13:13.35phyberthey made an event which gives you all the nice info?
13:13.53NeronixIf I'm running on enough caffeine, yes
13:15.22ag`http://wendydiscoversthehorribletruth.ytmnd.com/
13:15.32ag`woops, wrong channel
13:15.39NeronixTem and rophy suggest something like that in the split off from witchhunt 2.0 thread
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13:16.32phyberhmm, Neronix, where did you read about this?
13:16.39phyberit doesn't seem to be in Iriel's thread.
13:18.23Neronixhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1694.0.html
13:18.35NeronixTem mentions something on the first page, and rophy says something on page 2
13:18.49NeronixSeems like something introduced by Blizzy's FCT
13:19.51phyber"As to why I am here...I'm about 80% sure SCT 5.0 is going to be using Ace2 =)"
13:19.54phyber:o
13:22.58phyberhas anyone got a screenshot of Blizzard's Combat Text thing?
13:23.16Neronixphyber: There's one on page 2 of that thread
13:23.21Mikmahttp://www.beverpung.net/1.12/
13:23.23Neronixand see the code for yourself: http://wdn.wowinterface.com/diff.php?mode=live&id=01205496
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13:23.53NeronixIt passed the quantities as args and everything
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13:25.42Slaymanlol if I write /tinytip     my client say fuck you and freezes
13:25.43phyberoh man, ouch.  Blizzard's version looks quite pathetic.
13:26.10phyberbut at least they added some nice new events to get rid of parsing stuff. :)
13:26.17NeronixIt uses 20 fucking fontstrings
13:26.24phyberNeronix: yeah, I was looking at that page just before I asked for the screenshot :)
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13:30.12phyberGlobalStrings: BINDING_HEADER_ITUNES_REMOTE = "iTunes Remote";
13:30.13phyber?
13:30.45phyberBINDING_NAME_ITUNES_PLAYPAUSE = "iTunes Play/Pause";
13:30.47NeronixI hope that's not mac-only, and also that someone will write a foobar2000 plugin for that
13:31.11phyberyeah, that's quite nice if we can control media players from wow.
13:32.49Tekcublern2mediakeyboard *eyeroll*
13:33.13TekcubI don't get that, go spent fuckin $20 and get a keyboard with the keys, problem sloved.... universally
13:33.49Shyvafoorbar2000 global hotkeys work fine too :)
13:33.57NeronixOh ya, there's those >.<
13:35.01NeronixBut they won't be enough if they have a window that shows what's currently playing
13:35.02vhaarrShyva, FryGuy-: http://brz.nu/wow/transcriptor.lua.gz <- Gluth transcriptor logs.
13:35.57Shyvawhoo, 2mb, big log =)
13:36.23phyberTekcub: I did.  but I still want more buttons in wow :p
13:36.34vhaarrShyva: most of it is Toxic Tunnel's Gas :(
13:36.48Shyvalol vhaarr :p
13:36.52vhaarrShyva: (a tunnel you have to run through to get to Gluth)
13:37.00phyberactually, I don't.  but it's still a cool feature :)
13:37.01vhaarrShyva: (that does periodic damage)
13:37.31ShyvaI know it vhaarr, watched a movie :)
13:37.32SlaymanIf I run oUF2 and Tinytip 2gether,  typing  /tinytip freezes my Client  WTF?
13:37.38vhaarrShyva: ah :)
13:37.46MikmaSlayman: update your Ace2 addons
13:38.24SlaymanTortoiseSVN checkout would suffice?
13:38.40phyberheh, looks like they made it harder to delete blue items and above.
13:38.46phyberyou have to type DELETE into a box now.
13:39.14MikmaSlayman: there was some problem with AceConsole, atleast with ag and me, we updated all our ace2 addons and the crash was gone
13:40.10Slaymanis that possibly the same crash which occurs while trying to  <TAB>  through your whispers?
13:41.34ShyvaI had that problem Slayman :-/
13:41.51SlaymanShyva: solved it?
13:42.43Shyvauuh no, happend only once, dunno whuit happend, I was typing a whipser and pressed tab to finish a name (use tot do that because of mirc)
13:43.23NeronixAfter some digging into Blizzy's FCT code...
13:43.46Neronixarg1 is the message type (either "crit", "sticky", or some other string which I assume is for normal messages)
13:44.01Neronixarg2 is the quantity (how much dmg/heaing you did/took)
13:44.16Neronixarg3 is partial quantity (for artial blocks/resists)
13:44.40NeronixWait, I'm talking crap
13:45.51Neronixarg1 is the message type ("DAMAGE", "DAMAGE_CRIT", "MISS", etc)
13:46.31SlaymanPraise you Mikma, error's gone for good
13:48.09Slaymanis any Ace/Ace2 addon expected to be broken in 1.12 due to changes?
13:49.33NeronixSlayman: The only change is the addition ofthe FCT files
13:49.41Neronixaccording to wdn
13:49.48SlaymanFCT?
13:49.54Neronixfloating combat text
13:50.04Slaymanah
13:50.48MikmaSlayman: hehe, glad you got rid of it too :)
14:03.38Slaymanluckily SCT works flawless too, so Patch 1.12 I'm ready hit me!
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14:30.56Mikmaag`_: you might wan't to concider of removing the links to svn from jaslaughter.com ;)
14:32.35ag`_I don't think there are direct links
14:32.39ag`_are there?
14:32.45Mikmayes there is
14:33.06Mikmahttp://wow.jaslaughter.com/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=4&TOPIC_ID=944&#4919
14:34.50Mikmawell, it's not a problem to me, but i remember someone saying that there shouldn't be any links on webpages directing to svn since they don't wan't the extra traffic
14:35.32Mikmahttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2918
14:36.05ag`_how do you know if a unit is a pet?
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14:36.44Mikmai think it returns a "pet"
14:36.52Mikmanot sure tho, i'll check the addon now
14:37.48Mikmaif (UnitFactionGroup("target") == "Horde") or (UnitFactionGroup("target") == "Alliance") then
14:37.55Mikmaif not (UnitCreatureType("target") == "Humanoid") then
14:39.14NeronixUnitPlayerControlled?
14:40.23Mikmaj ca
14:40.25Mikmadcasda :S
14:40.27Mikmasorry
14:40.32Mikmai can pastebin the whole code
14:40.39Mikmain case you wan't..
14:41.13ag`_if it is easy to do for you
14:41.16ag`_I am just interested
14:41.29Mikmayah it's easy
14:42.17Mikmahttp://pastebin.ca/91328
14:42.58Mikmathe thing is the addon uses .xml ;)
14:43.56vhaarrMikma: it shouldn't need XML
14:44.13Mikmavhaarr: i'm modding it atm :)
14:44.20vhaarrMikma: good
14:44.34vhaarrMikma: looks like something I'd use, it's annoying in AV when you tab the zerg :D
14:44.50Mikmai also removed the stupid MYADDONS support mehehe
14:44.54vhaarrhehe
14:45.04Mikmavhaarr: i personally _HATE_ the "feature" that pets get targeted first
14:45.09Mikmai ALWAYS nuke the damn pets
14:45.17vhaarrMikma: actually you should Ace it and add BabbleLib-Zone support and add zone support.
14:45.33vhaarrMikma: because I'd most likely only use it in AV
14:45.38vhaarrMikma: i.e. large zergs
14:45.53Mikmavhaarr: it has slashcommand for that one
14:46.00Mikmai'm not that pro to do zone support :)
14:46.11vhaarrbah, the slash command is just on/off
14:46.19vhaarrthen I'd have to remember to enable/disable it all the time
14:46.21vhaarr:(
14:46.33Mikmawhy do you need it disabled afterall?
14:46.42vhaarrbecause sometimes you want to CC the pet
14:46.55vhaarrfear, sleep, etc
14:47.01Mikmawell then you can just select the pet, i think
14:47.12vhaarryes but I tab usually
14:47.19vhaarrI just don't want to tab into pets in AV
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14:47.39vhaarrMikma: :P
14:47.48Mikmai'll rename the addon to something nicer
14:47.52Mikmaany ideas for name?
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14:48.14vhaarrIgnorePetsWhenTabTargetting :P
14:48.27Mikmaor how about SadPanda
14:49.24Mikmai wanna name it after tekkub ;)
14:54.43Mikmahmm
14:54.47Mikmaseems like i have to put a SV in it too
14:56.50CIA-1103ratbert * r5079 10BagBoy2/ (7 files):
14:56.50CIA-11BagBoy2: Fixed bad Ace2 externals
14:56.50CIA-11Added preliminary DewDrop menu functionality
14:56.50CIA-11Fixed localization issues
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15:00.00Icerothis there anything to worry about threads in my addon? if i trigger own event, can i trust that all event handlers have finished when my function executes the next statement?
15:01.11vhaarrI don't think there is any threading going on
15:01.25vhaarrwithin the script host
15:01.28vhaarrbut I don't know for sure
15:02.08Icerothit *seems* to work that way but from my past brief experience with threading, i wouldn't count on that :D
15:02.51vhaarrindeed if there IS any threading
15:02.58vhaarrbut I don't think there is, so you don't have to worry
15:03.06vhaarrof course, you should get that confirmed
15:05.57Icerothand if there would be, it would most likely be with the build-in stuff instead of aceEvent
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15:10.16AmadeoThrae: You punk!
15:12.05Icerothwhat's the diffecent between frame:GetScale() and frame:GetEffectiveScale()?
15:13.12Icerothah nwm
15:13.26Mikmai think i messed up the code somehow.. oh boohoo
15:14.45CIA-1103ag * r5080 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Defaults.lua ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames - Partypets works now
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15:17.51NeronixHahahahaha
15:17.59NeronixUD locks on test have orc racials xD
15:18.06Mikma:D
15:18.33Amadeoalong with WoTF?
15:18.36Amadeoor just Orc only?
15:19.07phybernice bug.  fixed by 1.12.2 ? :p
15:19.17Amadeoprobably not
15:19.29AmadeoBlizzard doesn't actually fix bugs that are on PTR :P
15:20.08vhaarrhe said 1.12.2 ;)
15:21.19Amadeoyeah
15:21.37AmadeoI said Blizzard doesn't actually fix bugs that are on PTR!
15:21.55SlaymanMikma u got screens of ag_UF ?
15:22.03MikmaSlayman: hmm
15:22.12TupladSlayman: it's just minigroup
15:22.18AmadeoSlayman: Have you seen MiniGroup2?
15:22.26Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/aguf.jpg
15:22.31Slaymani think so
15:22.42Mikma+ it now has buffs shown..
15:22.47Mikmathat's a version without buffs
15:22.50Slaymank nice
15:23.22vhaarrMikma: does it have scaling yet?
15:23.38Mikmavhaarr: afaik, no
15:23.45vhaarrThrae: poke
15:23.48Mikmajust give ag`_ some time ;)
15:23.49ag`_yes it does have scaling
15:23.55vhaarroh, nice!
15:23.59vhaarrI'll try it tonight then
15:23.59Mikmaok i lied ;D
15:24.18Mikmaok i just completely fucked up the TabPetRemover -code ;)
15:24.22Mikmaand i lost my interest on it haha
15:24.47vhaarrag`_: it doesn't have raid support yet?
15:24.52ag`_no raid yet
15:24.54vhaarrokay
15:25.01Mikmaag`_: NO! NEVER ever raid-support
15:25.01ag`_actually it would take like 5 lines or something
15:25.01vhaarrI need that anyway, so I'll stick with MG2
15:25.13Mikmaag`_: let people use PerfectRaid instead
15:26.22Icerothcan't wait to see the next version of pr
15:26.56Mikmai have a feeling that code is just... bloat of TabPetRemover
15:27.29Mikmaof=in
15:27.40vhaarrag`_: if you add that I'll be playing with ag_UF for tonights raid ;)
15:27.41ag`_Mikma, I don't need to "support" raid. Because aguf is object oriented, anyone could simply create raid units by running self.aUFunit:new
15:28.03NeronixToday's excuse of the day: David Lee Roth leaving Van Halen
15:28.07ag`_vhaarr, the problem with it is that currently all frames are floating... They don't group together, so
15:28.17Neronix20$ that Blizzy will quote that :P
15:28.18vhaarraha
15:29.10KebinusanSo with BigWigs, it just supposed to be timer bars or a boss mod thing... I think it might be kinda cool for like Maexxna to have a seperate frame to show people who get stuck to the all
15:29.38ag`_but uh vhaarr, without me doing anything raidunits should work if you did:"for i=1,40 do aUF:CreateObject("raid"..i) end"
15:29.54Mikmaag`_: you should have a look what takes up so much mem in aguf
15:30.16ag`_it could be the defaults file
15:30.19ag`_I dunno
15:30.37Mikmawell i have a feeling that it shouldn't take that much mem now
15:30.49Mikmasince the code should be much better than mg2 was
15:32.23ag`_it is smaller than mg
15:32.25ag`_I think
15:32.59Mikmayeah but still you should compare the memusage of other ace* unitframes
15:33.25Amadeowhich Ace Unit Frames are up to date still?
15:33.29AmadeoJust oUF2?
15:33.52AmadeoI mean, besides agUF
15:34.12Icerothi'm using lucen unit frames but clique hates it
15:35.01AmadeoI really like the look of the unit frames in this...but I know they're Discord :(
15:35.04Amadeohttp://static.curse-gaming.com/mscreens/9623.jpg
15:35.28NeronixKebinusan: You can easily add custom functionality into a module
15:35.34vhaarrAmadeo: is that elkbuffbar?
15:35.38vhaarrAmadeo: top left
15:35.45Amadeono idea, I didn't look that much into it :P
15:35.55Amadeothat's not mine
15:35.58Icerothelk doesn't have that "spark"
15:36.36vhaarrIceroth: which one is it then, do you know?
15:36.44vhaarrthe spark looks slick
15:36.47Icerothno clue
15:36.52Tupladvhaarr: it's not
15:36.56Icerothi'm happy with elk
15:36.57Tupladit's CT_BuffMod Colored
15:37.00Mikmaag`_: another good idea might be doing the addon like haste has, splitting it to parts which can be disabled
15:37.27vhaarrTuplad: hm, eh from ctmod.net?
15:37.34AmadeoYou guys notice that Discord mod users hardly ever have the Performance plugin for Titan or FuBar? :P
15:38.10MikmaAmadeo: they cry when they see it so they don't use it ;)
15:38.26Amadeohehe
15:38.35AmadeoI've never seen one under 35MiB so far
15:39.31NeronixJesus, no addons make the game run so much faster
15:39.43NeronixEither that, or they optimised tons of stuff in 1.12
15:40.16Mikmawell ok..
15:41.17MikmaoUF2 = 768KiB + 25KiB + 16KiB + 7KiB (oUF, oUF_Player, oUF_Target, oUF_TargetsTarget)
15:41.25Mikmaoh
15:41.34Mikma+ 26KiB (oUF_Party)
15:41.43AmadeoNeronix: No, it's always been that way
15:41.43Amadeohaha
15:41.50Amadeoyou just never notice it until you're forced to have none
15:42.03NeronixThat's it
15:42.07NeronixI'm removing tons of crap
15:42.21ag`_Mikma,
15:42.26ag`_aguf is around 300kb
15:42.28Mikmaag_UnitFrames = 926KiB
15:42.36ag`_go to the toc and remove all my files
15:42.44ag`_so you only have the libs
15:43.09Mikmalibs are 600+?
15:43.12ag`_ag_unitframes = 672kib
15:43.15ag`_yes
15:43.25Mikmathat's...
15:43.30Mikmanot so cool, really
15:43.34ag`_so with a small subtraction
15:43.46ag`_my memory usage is 254KiB
15:44.08Mikma600+KiB of Libs ain't that cool
15:44.18ag`_You'd have to talk about the Ace2 devs/warmup about that
15:44.38MikmaKaeltenAway: your fault! you're the head of ace2!
15:45.24Amadeohow big is Ace?
15:45.25ag`_if I go to onebag and remove all files from it too
15:45.26Amadeo(not Ace2)
15:45.31MikmaAmadeo: checking..
15:45.40Amadeoag`_: but Ace2 only loads once, right?
15:45.45ag`_it says onebag = 583KiB
15:45.45TupladvhaarrTuplad: hm, eh from ctmod.net?
15:45.46Tupladno
15:45.51Tupladfrom ui.worldofwar
15:45.56vhaarraha
15:46.04MikmaAce = 243KiB
15:46.10ag`_I don't know Amadeo, but at my place an empty Ace2 mod with libs loaded is 570kb in Warmup
15:46.39phyberAmadeo: only one copy will be in memory.
15:47.01phyberbut as it goes along, if someone has a newer version of Ace2 than the one with your addon, the Ace2 will get upgraded.
15:47.14Neronixhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=470265548857355052
15:48.12phyberthe usage still shows in Warmup since wow had to load the files as it went along.  but it's not really very accurate about the addons memory usage.
15:48.19phybermaybe it should be trained to ignore Ace2 libs :p
15:48.44sedatedChipmunkload the Ace2 directory/.toc at the start
15:48.58hyperChipmunkyou can checkout Ace2 directly from trunk; it has a .toc
15:49.07hyperChipmunkyou can treat it as a normal addon
15:50.30AmadeoHow'd Ace go from 243KiB to 600+KiB? hehe
15:50.48hyperChipmunkfilesize?
15:50.53hyperChipmunklots and lots of boilerplate
15:50.54Amadeoin Warmup
15:51.02NeronixAmadeo: New functionality
15:51.04Neronixlots of it
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15:51.24hyperChipmunkit cures cancer
15:51.32Neronixand the common cold
15:51.39hyperChipmunkAce2 saved my baby
15:51.45NeronixAnd provides 315 Norris Resistance
15:51.59hyperChipmunkand then healed my raid
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15:52.10Amadeotwice
15:52.20Mikmaag`_: you should rename your addon to something like XXxXxXXXzXXY_UnitFrames so it get's loaded last (meaning some other addon will load ace2 ;)
15:52.23NeronixAnd brought a hosepipe to Ragnaros
15:52.33AmadeoMikma: hahaha
15:52.44Amadeoxag_UFx
15:52.46Amadeohaha
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15:56.00vhaarrct colored buffs looks really nice
15:56.14vhaarrelk needs to ace his addon and add those sparks
15:56.15Mikmatoo bad it requires the ct_core :P
15:56.22vhaarrya I'm not using it
15:58.00ag`ok, so I missed part of the discussion
15:58.07ag`but aguf is around 300KiB
15:58.15ag`everything else is warmup screwing up
15:58.20ag`so I don't want more shit about memory usage
15:58.36ag`an empty Ace2 addon is 500KiB in warmup
15:59.06Mikmawell as soon as wu is fixed you won't get "shit" about memusage :)
15:59.44ag`are you sure it is possible to fix?
16:00.22vhaarrit's not possible, afaik
16:00.35ag`ok
16:01.09ag`So from now on we should either A. stop using any Ace2 addon as they will always be >500kb, or B. stop using warmup
16:01.28ag`I think I'll be going for option B
16:01.42vhaarror C. force blizzard to add an API that reports proper mem usage
16:01.44vhaarr:P
16:01.53ag`not sure if blizzard cares
16:02.10vhaarrI'm not even sure that's possible anyway
16:02.14vhaarrdepends on Lua
16:02.25ag`yeah
16:02.43Amadeoag`: But only one Ace2 addon should have the 500kb load
16:02.45ag`you would think it should be possible to garbage collect after each addon loaded
16:02.59vhaarryes that would be possible
16:03.05vhaarrbut it would also be a hack
16:03.08ag`Amadeo, warmup adds Ace2 size to every ace2 addon
16:03.18Amadeoag`: does it?
16:03.18vhaarrand it would need blizzard changes
16:03.43ag`Amadeo, what I've seen, yes. But I think some of the Ace gurus could tell us more about it
16:03.53KaeltenAwaynot quite adding it to everyone
16:04.19Kaeltenthe first time a library is loaded it uses up memory, and then everytime a library gets updated it uses up memory
16:04.35Kaeltenthe libs do use a little bit of memory when they check if they need to be done, but its not a major amount.
16:05.22ag`the point is that warmup doesn't know about when this happens
16:06.22Kaeltenwell that doesn't matter
16:06.34Kaeltenwarmup simply messures memory usage on each addon.
16:06.47Kaeltenfrom one Addon_Loaded to another
16:07.30ag`but if an addon loads the acelibs, people using warmup thinks that the addon is huge
16:07.52Kaeltenand thats something that we're going to have to explain.
16:08.02Kaeltenbut really the usage is there.
16:08.28ag`Yes, warmup isn't broken
16:08.31vhaarrthe usage is there, it's just misreported
16:08.32AmadeoKaelten: But only one addon should have the additional memory shown from the libs, assuming all are updated, right?
16:08.44vhaarrKaelten: and in some cases the usage might not be there
16:08.44KaeltenAmadeo: correct
16:08.52vhaarrKaelten: like if you have 2 versions of a ace2 library
16:08.57vhaarrKaelten: it will report the memory for both
16:09.03Kaeltenwell not ness.
16:09.05vhaarrKaelten: but one will be gc'ed away at the next gc
16:09.11AmadeoMikma: So just grab Ace2 and treat it like an addon, that should load first and you can look at the rest :)
16:10.45Kaeltenthere should be a very minor memory use from each lib, but if there is no actual update needed then usage should be much less.
16:14.52Kaeltenhope that makes sense
16:15.44NeronixThunderfury got buffed
16:15.59Neronixthe speed decrease is 25% now and it's one-hand instead of main hand
16:16.13Amadeoag`: I don't know if you plan on renaming your addon, but I'm suggesting something that starts with a Z ;)
16:17.01ag`That's going to be hell. Everyone naming their addons to start with Z they don't have to load the libs
16:17.05AmadeoNeronix: What was the old speed decrease?
16:17.16ag`20%
16:17.25Amadeothat's pretty good
16:17.30Amadeoag`: I'm just joking :)
16:18.09ag`I know, but it could be reality :P
16:18.15AmadeoIf you compare every class, some seem more overpowered than others, but I'd have to say that overall, Druids are the most BS class in WoW :P
16:18.20Icerothwell... warmup still shows the increase so what's the big deal who actually loads it?
16:19.09ag`when the first addon loads ace2 warmup shows a huge increase, then all addons afterwards that uses the libs looks small
16:19.13AmadeoIceroth: I was thinking agUF was 900+KiB when it was really about 300KiB!
16:20.40Icerothi was/am under the impression that after when icehud loads after aguf it still shows ace libraries in the memory footprint even though they are going to be gc'ed pretty soon?
16:20.57Amadeowhat's icehud?
16:21.34CIA-1103ag * r5081 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua ag_UnitFrames.toc): ag_UnitFrames - Leader crown now disappears from the player when leaving a party
16:21.44Icerothreplace it with "random ace2 addon that is later in the alphabetical order than aguf"
16:21.52Icerothor check ace2 addons forum ;)
16:21.55Amadeohaha
16:23.45Amadeooh yeah, you're a Druid >:|
16:24.03Iceroth?)
16:25.02AmadeoI don't like Druids :P
16:25.12AmadeoI hit Bear form for like 100's
16:25.17Amadeowhile they hit me for 500's
16:25.22Amadeoyet I wear plate!
16:26.28Icerothlocks and shadow priests are pain, every other class is beatable
16:27.00Amadeoyeah
16:27.03Amadeothey need to tone down Druids
16:27.36Amadeothey're like 95% of each class they can be
16:27.58Amadeo95% as good as a Warrior in tanking, 95% as good as a Rogue for DPS :P
16:28.04Amadeotoo much
16:28.08Amadeobetter healers than Priests now
16:28.11Amadeobrb
16:28.14Icerothgive me a working stun in cat and viable rage dump in bear and i might agree with you
16:29.06Icerothbut currently cat is good only as an opener against most classes
16:29.19Icerothand bear lacks seriously any burst dmg
16:29.51Iceroththere's practically nothing i can do to prevent a class that can heal from healing
16:33.20hyperChipmunkbearcharge RAWR!
16:33.29hyperChipmunk*CHOMP*
16:33.56Icerothyeah.. and most heals are around 2s or less, try to get range in that time when you see someone healing.. not gonna happen
16:34.12Icerothworks against druids and their slow heals only
16:34.37ag`I think the game is kinda balanced,
16:34.44ag`though hunters mana drain is too fucked
16:34.59ag`and priests PWS and MF should scale better with gear
16:35.39Icerothpriests do insane damage already with good gear
16:37.24ag`so if you have 900+ healing
16:37.30ag`PWS gets 90 extra hp
16:37.34ag`woah, that's epic
16:40.09AmadeoIceroth: Bear lacks burst damage but you don't need it, you can switch roles
16:40.20AmadeoOpen with Cat, go to Bear, how could you possibly die?
16:40.26AmadeoYou can't even be CC'd
16:40.30Amadeo(which is BS!)
16:41.27Icerothwell, for instanse my heals are so slow that most classes can interrupt then easily
16:41.39Amadeodefine so slow
16:41.42Amadeofor your fastest heal
16:42.04Icerothregrowth is 2s, 1k heal and 1k hot, costs 880 mana
16:42.10Icerothwhich is a lot
16:42.11Amadeook
16:42.17Amadeoso it's 0.5s slower
16:42.32Icerothhealing touch is 3.5s, heals around 2k and costs 800
16:42.39Amadeobut you have Bash + Heal, Root + Heal, Travel Form Run + Heal and NS + Heal to make up for it :P
16:43.00Icerothif you have NS, you are not doing too much damage
16:43.09Amadeoyeah, but you still can't lose
16:43.09Wobinor Stomp + Heal
16:43.18Amadeoyeah! warstomp + heal
16:43.18Icerothno stomp for nelfs
16:43.21Wobinfeh
16:43.25WobinThat's your fault =)
16:43.27Amadeohaha
16:43.33AmadeoIceroth: I thought NS was free now
16:43.39Icerothno, innervate is
16:43.41Amadeoahh
16:44.02AmadeoI just don't think a Hybrid class should be almost as good if not better than their pure counterparts who can't change roles
16:44.16Icerothyes druids can outlast pretty much everything but how often does it happen that you can fight 5mins uninterrupted?
16:44.37Amadeoand once you factor in the inability to be CC/rooted/snared, it's unbalanced
16:44.43hyperChipmunkyou don't need to; you just have to outlast the other guy
16:44.49hyperChipmunkwho won't be staying up no 5 mins
16:44.50Icerothhamstring spam eats mana really fast
16:44.56Amadeobah
16:44.59Icerothand no way out of ice trap
16:45.03hyperChipmunkOH NOZ
16:45.05Amadeowell geared Druids can shift 15+ times without running out of mana
16:45.06Icerothplus trinket works only once in 5mins against fear
16:45.08NeronixIs the Fubar2 branch stable enough to use?
16:45.32hyperChipmunksome of us have no way out of ice trap, seduce, fear, or morph
16:45.34Icerothdruid that can shift out 15 times isn't doing any damange
16:45.37AmadeoIceroth: Doesn't matter, how much damage is a Huntr even going to do to you with 10k-15k defense? :P
16:45.43Amadeoer
16:45.45Amadeoarmor, not defense
16:45.53hyperChipmunkdude, bear druids are perma-shieldwall
16:45.56Amadeoyeah
16:46.10hyperChipmunkYour Auto-Shot crits Beardurid for 247.
16:46.11hyperChipmunkwtf
16:46.21AmadeohyperChipmunk: I was fighting a Druid yesterday, and it's not like he was an amazing player, but when my IBS hits him in Bear Form for 100-150, and 200 crits...
16:46.22hyperChipmunkI'm using Grand Marshal's Hand Cannon
16:46.31AmadeoIt's pretty damn lame
16:46.32Amadeohaha
16:46.39hyperChipmunkI took a screenshot
16:46.46Icerothwhat good does it do to have 10k armor if you can't land a single hit? and when you shift to remove snares, you get tons of damage in caster form
16:46.59AmadeoIceroth: YOu can shift faster than someone can get a cast off
16:47.05hyperChipmunkIceroth: stop trolling and go whine someplace else
16:47.11Amadeoand you can land hits easy, come on :P
16:47.24AmadeoBears crit hard
16:47.35Icerothif you can't scatter shot a druid when he's in caster, you should really consider rerolling
16:47.54hyperChipmunkscattershot is a talent; way up on the tree, at that
16:47.56Icerothhigh mana or high armor means you are not doing practically any damage
16:48.40AmadeoIceroth: Even without gearing for armor, you will have more armor than Warriors/Paladins that are geared for armor :P
16:49.20Icerothmy pvp gear has 7.5k armor, it's not that hard to get for a warrior
16:49.44Amadeo7.5k armor without a shield?
16:49.47Amadeoyou're nuts
16:50.18Amadeo:)
16:50.22Icerothyou were talking about gearing for armor, doesn't that include a shield?
16:50.32Amadeowell you said PvP gear
16:50.43AmadeoI'd say a Warrior can get 8k with a shield
16:51.09Amadeobut your PvP gear is DPS, right?
16:51.34Icerothyes
16:51.56Amadeoare you Feral?
16:51.59Icerothyes
16:52.25AmadeoNow, here's something we'll all agree on
16:52.43AmadeoA bad Druid is beyond easy to kill, because they don't know what they're doing :P
16:53.26AmadeoI love Druids that stay in Cat or Caster
16:53.33AmadeoOnce they Bear, it's overe
16:53.34Amadeo-e
16:53.36Icerothhere's a link to my profile, it's not complete up-to-date but close enough: http://ctprofiles.net/222618
16:53.54Mikmabear is love
16:54.11AmadeoI'm just glad my main is a Warlock
16:54.15AmadeoI at least have one overpowered class
16:54.16Wobin<PROTECTED>
16:54.29Mikmai can tank 5 mobs which are at same level than i am when my GF keeps hammering them in the back with her rogue
16:54.33hyperChipmunkWobin: *snicker* I was about to make a similar comment
16:54.54AmadeoMikma: That's scary...and I mean about your girlfriend
16:55.23MikmaAmadeo: how come? you dis girlrogues? :D
16:55.45AmadeoShe's hammering stuff in the back
16:56.37AmadeohyperChipmunk: Are Warlocks tough for you as a Hunter?
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16:56.37hyperChipmunkdepends
16:56.42AmadeoI actually haven't had much problem with them on my Warrior as of yet, which is strange
16:56.55hyperChipmunkgenerally I can blast them to pieces
16:56.58Amadeothe only problem I have is dying after they die, due to DoTs
16:57.13AmadeoWarriors tend to stay in combat longer for some reason :(
16:57.20hyperChipmunkbut a really sinister lock who gets the jump on you is tough to beat without a shadow reflector to disable the succubus
16:57.41Amadeowill it seduce itself?
16:57.44hyperChipmunkyes
16:57.45Amadeohahahaha
16:57.49AmadeoI've never seen that
16:58.03hyperChipmunkit's awesome
16:58.05Amadeowhat do you do against SL?
16:58.13hyperChipmunkright up there with the warlock fearing itself
16:58.18hyperChipmunkSL?
16:58.21AmadeoSoul Link
16:58.32hyperChipmunkdon't even know what that does
16:59.08Amadeoshares 30% of the Warlocks damage taken with the pet
16:59.15Amadeothey're the Warlocks that never seem to die
16:59.18Amadeousually with Felhunter out
16:59.27hyperChipmunk=x all warlocks die
16:59.30NeronixFun fact: SL means no ruin
16:59.37Neronixwhich in turn means no conflag
16:59.43AmadeoYou don't need it though
16:59.51Neronixand no-lots-of-other-destruction-tree-stuff
16:59.53MikmaAmadeo: so, what's so scary about my gf? :D
16:59.53hyperChipmunkI just blast 'em
17:00.00MikmaAmadeo: she just loves her new rogue..
17:00.05AmadeoMikma: Nothing :P I was just kidding
17:00.12NeronixYeah, hunters are the scissors to the warlock's paper
17:00.22AmadeoWell geared SL Warlocks are unstoppable
17:00.28hyperChipmunkI've never noticed any warlock that can stand up to a good barrage
17:00.31MikmaAmadeo: she's different player than others, she has full-epic warrior on other realm :D
17:00.40AmadeoMikma: Nice :)
17:00.56Mikmait was leveled with def-spec ^^
17:01.01hyperChipmunkno matter how much hp you have, you're still wearing cloth, and I'm going to crit you for 3k with an aimed shot
17:01.01Mikmafrom 1 to 60
17:01.15AmadeohyperChipmunk: Not with SL!
17:01.27hyperChipmunk2k then
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17:01.42Amadeothen you have at least 3000 HP to go!
17:01.54hyperChipmunkthat's a multishot and a few aimed shots
17:02.01AmadeoGogusrl had 4900 HP and +633 spell damage about 3 months ago
17:02.05Amadeothat's pretty scary to me
17:02.12hyperChipmunkI also crit raptorstrike for 1300 =)
17:02.18Amadeohehe
17:02.57hyperChipmunkhonestly, I've never seen a warlock that could tank me
17:03.25Amadeohahah, wtf...
17:03.27Amadeohttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-eredar&t=289978&p=1&tmp=1#post289978
17:04.33hyperChipmunknice, my server is back up
17:04.49hyperChipmunkan hour early!
17:05.02Amadeooh wow
17:05.04AmadeoGogusrl quit
17:05.05Amadeo:(
17:05.24hyperChipmunkwtf how did bulkmail get to be 4713KiB
17:05.40AmadeoGuys, is there any way to reset my chat windows and their settings without losing anything else?
17:05.59AmadeohyperChipmunk: I heard the author can't code at all
17:06.00Cairenndelete chat-cache.txt in your wtf folder
17:06.24AmadeoCairenn: <3
17:06.51Cairennthe other option is to go to interface options in game, click "simple chat" then turn it back off (if you want)
17:06.51hyperChipmunkwhat a loser
17:07.16AmadeoCairenn: Does the same thing?
17:07.24Cairennyup
17:07.33AmadeoAwesome, that makes me happy :)
17:07.35Amadeothank you again
17:07.38Cairennnp
17:07.55AmadeoSo does that mean, haste could send me his chat-cache.txt and I'd get his chat color settings? :)
17:08.57NeronixThe quicker I can get rid of that, the better O.o
17:11.08Amadeoag`: How do I get the options menu up in agUF?
17:11.18Amadeonevermind..lol
17:12.25Amadeohm
17:12.31Amadeothe text gets blurry as you scale it larger
17:12.45Mikma...
17:12.45Mikmahttp://irc-galleria.net/view.php?nick=aingsu&image_id=34265500
17:12.50Mikmaeventho it's in finnish
17:12.57Mikmahave a look at the shit she's put in her face
17:13.27mjc"Fixed a bug that caused the Blooddrenched Mask to hide a character's hair."
17:13.27mjc1:13 PM AIM echoeshopey:
17:13.29mjcyay
17:13.33mjcsorry about the last one :P
17:15.02mjc'theka the martyr will now only remain immune to physical damage for 30 seconds before returning to normal"
17:15.11mjcnice,  I used to hate that in ZF
17:18.34Amadeoso weird how FruityLoot goes to 1800 KiB only if you have agUF installed
17:18.57Amadeowithout agUF in, FruityLoot is about 400KiB I think
17:19.26mjcwtf is fruityloot
17:19.36AmadeoAceLoot renamed
17:19.44TupladMikmahttp://irc-galleria.net/view.php?nick=aingsu&image_id=34265500 O M G
17:19.59Tuplademo kid
17:20.04mjcwell what was aceloot :p
17:21.13hyperChipmunkmoved lootframe under your cursor
17:21.29hyperChipmunkso you could just clickclickclick to loot stuff
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17:22.47Cairennyeah, I absolutely hate the new name ... enough so that I'm considering going back to Telo's
17:23.03hyperChipmunklol
17:23.15hyperChipmunkhe didn't want to change it in the first place
17:23.15mjcI just use shift click to loot
17:23.18mjcand bagboy
17:23.25MoonWolfgood morning
17:23.27MoonWolfevening
17:23.31AmadeoCairenn: He had asked what to name it, and I said FruitLoots as a joke, and he actually used it :(
17:23.36hyperChipmunkyo mw
17:24.07hyperChipmunkI think it's actually FrootLoops, so you even spelled it wrong
17:24.25Amadeois it?
17:24.27AmadeoI don't eat them
17:24.28Amadeohaha
17:24.43Tupladmjc: shift loot > all
17:24.54hyperChipmunkneither do I, but I seem to recall them using the actual cereal as the letters in the logo
17:25.08AmadeoI always thought when people said FrootLoops they were just being noobs
17:25.24hyperChipmunkhttp://www.frootloops.com
17:25.44mjcyep
17:25.51hyperChipmunkhttp://flakmag.com/misc/images/frootloops.jpg
17:25.54hyperChipmunkha!
17:25.58Tupladhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=yheboxZGcV0bZV0ecz would this be a good dps build for a rogue ?
17:25.58hyperChipmunkI am teh awesome
17:26.00Amadeohah
17:26.12mjcTuplad: pve or pvp
17:26.20Tupladpvp
17:26.31Tupladits for dagger+sword rogue
17:26.36Tupladwith ambushes and backstabs
17:27.40Icerothi think i hate the imp. sprint already
17:27.41hyperChipmunkTuplad: there are irc channels for general wow discussion; this isn't one of them
17:29.07Wobin<PROTECTED>
17:30.05Amadeosee ya guys later
17:30.08Amadeo!
17:33.36TupladWobin:  k :)
17:33.51Tupladiceroth: imp sprint in 1.12 is gonna be good ^^
17:34.10ag`hmm
17:34.11ag`ok
17:34.17ag`he should change the name to Frootloots
17:35.41TupladKaelten: funny bug with OneBag
17:36.07TupladKaelten: when you set the strata to 7 in OneBag, the bag covers the menu then too, you cant click anything in the menu anymore ;(
17:40.09hyperChipmunkathat's not a bug
17:40.17hyperChipmunkthat's the definition of strata
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17:43.11Slaymandamn it,  I LOVE FuBar, that had to be said !
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17:46.27Industrial_lo
17:46.32Industrial_just testing a tiny irc client ^^
17:46.45Industrial_0irc
17:47.08Industrial_Im looking into alternatives to screen+irssi. lately my host became crappy (free host from a friend)
17:47.09Industrial_bbl
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17:54.49CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5082 10/branches/OneBag/ (32 files in 14 dirs):
17:54.49CIA-11OneBag (hC branch):
17:54.49CIA-11- Plow! button added for instant TheWorks if MrPlow is installed
17:54.54Kaeltenhrm, so I need to remove 7 as a valid strata option
17:55.00Wobinhehe
17:55.18KaeltenhyperChipmunk: why you messing with my stuff! lol
17:55.24mjchttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=nhecoxZMxA00Vzxf
17:55.28hyperChipmunkcuz I wanted a button
17:55.30mjcer whoops
17:56.07mjcsucks taht I can't get AR with that build
17:56.23CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5083 10OneBag/ (OneCore.lua templates.xml):
17:56.23CIA-11OneBag (hC branch):
17:56.23CIA-11- Kael sux! Long live the rodent!
17:56.44Kaeltenwtf?
17:56.47Kaeltenlol
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17:59.38CIA-1103kaelten * r5084 10OneBag/OneBag.lua: OneBag - Removed 7 as a valid option for strata
18:00.13CIA-1103ratbert * r5085 10BagBoy2/ (. BagBoy2.toc):
18:00.13CIA-11BagBoy2: Adding external for FuBarPlugin support
18:00.13CIA-11Added Rev keyword for toc file.
18:00.27CIA-1103kaelten * r5086 10OneBank/OneBank.lua: OneBank - Removed 7 as a valid option for strata
18:00.54CIA-1103kaelten * r5087 10OneView/OneView.lua: OneView - Removed 7 as a valid option for strata
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18:01.15KaeltenhyperChipmunk: what files did you actually edit?
18:01.17Industrial`xchat it is..
18:04.22ag`I like xchat
18:04.38Wobinhe made his own branch
18:04.45KaeltenWobin:  I know
18:04.51Kaeltenwobin I was looking at how he implemented it
18:05.05WobinYou could diff it =)
18:05.53ag`you can't diff when it isn't the same file I think, at least not using tortoise, then you would need another diff program
18:07.56hyperChipmunkoh
18:08.04hyperChipmunk13:56 < CIA-11> hyperactiveChipmunk * r5083 OneBag/ (OneCore.lua templates.xml):
18:08.13hyperChipmunksorry, got into a wsg game
18:08.25KaeltenhyperChipmunk: I'll go ahead and put it in the trunk :p
18:08.32hyperChipmunkprobably not optimal; I just wanted to work
18:09.40hyperChipmunkbut it's only like 5 lines diff
18:14.21vhaarrShyva, FryGuy-: Something happens on a boss that generates 40 events (1 for each player), and I want to print 1 raid warning text when that happens
18:14.28vhaarrwhat would be the best way?
18:15.09vhaarrit happens on the same time, so a timer to check when we last warned could work
18:15.16vhaarrunless BW has some builtin way that is better
18:15.21vhaarranyone know?
18:15.28Shyvacheck Maddog fear warning
18:15.43vhaarrwho's maddog?
18:16.05ShyvaMolten core -> Magmadar =)
18:17.10vhaarraha, thanks
18:21.26CIA-1103kaelten * r5088 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua OneCore.lua templates.xml):
18:21.26CIA-11OneBag -
18:21.26CIA-11- Reduced size of Config Menu button to save on frame real estate.
18:21.26CIA-11- If MrPlow is now installed there will now be a plow option in the config menu.
18:21.53CIA-1103kaelten * r5089 10OneBank/OneBank.lua:
18:21.53CIA-11OneBank -
18:21.53CIA-11- Reduced size of Config Menu button to save on frame real estate.
18:21.54CIA-11- If MrPlow is now installed there will now be a plow option in the config menu.
18:22.04KaeltenhyperChipmunk: think thats good enough?
18:26.11NeronixAnyone know a LFG filter mod that lets me specify my own filter patterns?
18:26.27NeronixPreferably one that does proper hooks
18:27.47MoonWolfno, but we look forward to you making one.
18:28.05NeronixSo be it
18:29.45Kaeltenlol
18:29.58Soltaniscan i ask what mrplow is or are you just going to direct me to a wiki?
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18:33.50WobinIt's a bagsorting addon
18:34.02Wobinuseful for onebag style addons
18:35.08Kaeltenheh, after doing some tests it appears OneBag and OneView actually only use 350ish kb of memory on load
18:35.22Neronixsorts and defragments your items
18:36.17Kaeltenwhile warmup says 800ish kb
18:36.24Kaeltenerr 900ish
18:36.43Kaeltenso thats what 550kb off?
18:36.47Kaeltendamn
18:37.36hyperChipmunkMoonWolf: best answer ever
18:37.47Industrial`...ddOns\idActionBar\Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua:298: AceHook-2.0: The object you supplied could not be found, or isn't a table.
18:37.51hyperChipmunkKaelten: updating now
18:37.52Industrial`latest rev
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18:38.18NeronixIndustrial: Sure you passed the object itself and not the name of it?
18:38.22KaeltenIndustrial: thats because someone is trying to hook a method that doesn't exist
18:38.24SunTigeryeah
18:38.32SunTigeri though it was pretty funny
18:38.57KaeltenhyperChipmunk: I took the button out and made it an option under the drop down
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18:39.44NeronixSo what could I call this superior LFG blocker?
18:39.52hyperChipmunkhm, two clicks?
18:40.00maiaLooking For Silence?
18:40.02NeronixIHateHormel?
18:40.06Industrial`self:Hook(ActionButton_HideGrid, 'HideGrid') <-- that function does exist
18:40.15SunTigerEarplug
18:40.15hyperChipmunkguess it's better than before =)
18:40.39KaeltenhyperChipmunk: I was having a problem when people had a narrow bag there just was too much stuff on the screen everything was overlapping
18:40.45hyperChipmunkah
18:40.51Industrial`ICantDeactivateAChannelSoINeedAnAddonToDoItForMe
18:40.56Industrial`:P
18:41.00hyperChipmunkwell then those people suck
18:41.05KaeltenhyperChipmunk: lol
18:41.39Industrial`SO i dont know why it gives the error. the method and my method both exist
18:42.27WobinSilenceIsGolden
18:42.32KaeltenIndustrial: when you do /dump ActionButton_HideGrid.HideGrid does it say empty result?
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18:42.46WobinPhoneTap
18:43.02Industrial`Kaelten, ActionButton_HideGrid is a function not a table
18:43.15Kaeltenah
18:43.23Industrial`and i dont seem to have a /dump
18:43.24Industrial`:x
18:43.32WobinIndustrial: You need to get devtools
18:43.35Kaeltenthen you need to do Hook("ActionButton_HideGrid", "HideGrid")
18:43.38Wobin~devtools
18:43.40purlfrom memory, devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999
18:43.52Industrial`Kaelten, ah k
18:44.08KaeltenIndustrial: if the first argument isn't a string it thinks your trying to hook a member method of an object
18:44.18Kaeltenso it was looking for an object named ActionButton_HideGrid
18:44.51Industrial`right i get it
18:45.18Kaeltenkk
18:48.52KaeltenAwaybe back later guys
18:49.58Ratbert_CPAnyone know if AceOptions type = 'text' with a table validation value will allow multiple selections?  i.e., ctrl-click on a list...
18:52.09SunTigerFrom the makers of the famous biscuit comes something better, more advanced and allround tastier!
18:52.20SunTigerTriscuit
18:52.35NeronixWhat's the difference between table.foreach/foreachi and pairs/ipairs?
18:52.39Ratbert_CPWhat drugs are you taking? (Or not taking...)
18:52.49SunTigernone
18:53.13NeronixThe first 2 are legacy functions from before for loops were implemented?
18:53.13Ratbert_CPipairs only works with sequential, integer elements.  i.e., tinsert'ed values
18:53.43Ratbert_CPI think so...
18:53.49Ratbert_CPstick with pairs/ipairs
18:54.05SunTigermonoscuit never worked out, researchers are currently working on Quadscuit.
18:54.28Ratbert_CPOK, there is a DEA-controlled cabinet of drugs you *should* be taking... ;)
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18:55.44SunTigeroooh, i want the red ones. NO NOT THE BLUE ONE the blue one taste like blueberry, i don' t like blueberry.
18:56.30CIA-1103id * r5090 10idActionBar/ (. idActionBar.lua idActionBar.toc): idActionBar: Converted to Ace2. Now hides/shows the petbar when the pet is summonned/dismissed/dead
18:56.34MoonWolfSo, what happend ?
18:57.30Ratbert_CPYour multiple personalities were causing confusion and delay...
18:57.50MoonWolfwhat multiple personalities. i am completely sane.
18:57.51Ratbert_CPThey are not useful personalities...
18:58.12Ratbert_CPThe delusion of sanity is the hallmark of deep psychosis...
18:58.23Industrial`heh :P
18:58.31SlaymanBigWigs Bars for Noth spawn all at the same position so there's like 4 Bars one over another
18:59.03MoonWolfI am completly sane and not in denial.
18:59.20MoonWolfDon't look at me like that!
19:00.28vhaarranyone know the regexp to get the name from "Blah performs xx on Playername" ?
19:00.31vhaarrI want playername
19:00.47vhaarrnot even sure what to use
19:02.11Neronix_, _, _, victim = string.find(mytext, "performs (.+) on (.+)")
19:02.45hyperChipmunk_, _, victim = string.find(mytext, "performs .+ on (.+)")
19:03.16vhaarr2 or 3 _ ? :)
19:03.19hyperChipmunkno need for the extra capture
19:03.31hyperChipmunkeither works
19:03.35vhaarrokay
19:03.47vhaarrcool, thanks
19:03.50hyperChipmunkbut nero's captures the XXX unnecessarily
19:03.54vhaarrya
19:04.21NeronixI see
19:04.22Ratbert_CP_, _, Dom, Pleasure, Sub = strfind(mytext, "(.+) performs (.+) on (.+)")
19:04.35NeronixI didn't know how to make it not capture :(
19:04.37Neronixlol Ratbert_CP
19:05.47Ratbert_CPIf you don't want to capture, don't use ()'s
19:06.56Industrial`http://pastebin.ca/91588
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19:09.30NeronixK, list of proposed features for LFGTap (Thanks wobin for name idea): Custom pattern definition (Can be any lua pattern, also case insensitive), comes with default patterns for lfg, lfm and lf%dm, safe hookinh
19:10.24vhaarrNeronix: level check
19:10.27NeronixNeed anything else?
19:10.38vhaarrNeronix: Like don't list LFG messages that are +/- 5 of your level
19:10.40vhaarror something
19:10.42vhaarr10 maybe
19:10.46vhaarrfor instances
19:10.49NeronixNah, unnecessary
19:11.00Neronixand would make /whoing a nightmare
19:11.04Neronixfor both mod and user
19:11.05vhaarrI disagree, if I'm in with my lvl 20 druid I don't want strat/scholo crap
19:11.49Neronixvhaarr: Then add dm, deadmines, vc, wc and wailing to the patterns list
19:12.00Neronixor if you're not lfging, leave the channel
19:12.09vhaarrah
19:12.38Industrial`Be careful with using ^ in your regex. Some other addon might have prepended something
19:12.42Industrial`;P
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19:13.37MoonWolfindustrial O RLY
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19:36.49mjcasf
19:37.05mjcI need my fucking SC pants and stupid baron has dropped druid loot 3x in a row
19:40.03vhaarrshould've rolled a druid
19:40.13vhaarr:P
19:41.32NeronixBut then when his druid raids, only rogue loot will drop
19:41.40NeronixMurphy's a sadistic fucker :P
19:42.03steinoi rolled a rogue AND a druid!
19:42.08steinoand a hunter
19:42.10steinoand a priest
19:42.11steino...
19:44.38mjcNeronix: yeah
19:44.53CIA-1103neronix * r5091 10EarPlug/ (. Earplug.lua Earplug.toc):
19:44.53CIA-11EarPlug - Initial commit. LFG filter that allows you to specify your own
19:44.53CIA-11patterns (Can be lua patterns, and case insensitive (Messages are string.lower'd
19:44.53CIA-11before testing) or else use the standard lfg, lfm and lf%m patterns. Thanks to
19:44.53CIA-11MoonWolf for the name.
19:44.54CIA-11As always with my first commits, the files are blank :P
19:59.37CIA-1103neronix * r5092 10EarPlug/ (. Earplug.toc Libs/): EarPlug - Added TOC data, log template and externals
20:02.10CIA-1103ag * r5093 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
20:02.10CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
20:02.10CIA-11<PROTECTED>
20:02.10CIA-11<PROTECTED>
20:02.10CIA-11<PROTECTED>
20:03.46CIA-1103id * r5094 10idUnitframes/ (idUnitframes.lua idUnitframes.toc):
20:03.47CIA-11idUnitframes:
20:03.47CIA-11<PROTECTED>
20:03.47CIA-11<PROTECTED>
20:04.02Industrial`there we go
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20:12.13maiaanyone familiar with Ace2 AceOptions? I'm trying to convert an addon and am stuck with "All values in argument #2 must be in the form of "/word""
20:13.54maiais there any Ace2 addon that is simple to understand and is using the AceOptions data table?
20:14.31Icerothi spied stuff from agUF
20:14.51Icerothwiki docs don't really cover it all
20:15.17maiaoh, thanks.
20:15.25hyperChipmunkyou can look at BulkMail
20:17.40Tainhaha so one of my friends is writing up his first addon right now and I can't wait until it's done.
20:18.07TainThere's a group of 6-10 of us or so who use our own channel and pretty much make fun of the rest of the guild all night long.
20:18.39TainSo we're going to vote on things that people say in guildchat, and his addon will collect the votes and report in guildchat what our score fo their story was.
20:19.55hyperChipmunklol
20:19.59maiasigh, ag_UF doesnt really help either. he's not using any slash commands, besides opening a classic dewdrop table
20:20.37hyperChipmunkbulkmail yo
20:20.51Icerothit's the same format for slash commands
20:20.52hyperChipmunkit's all /-commands
20:21.08hyperChipmunkno, the only slash command he has is /auf config
20:21.18hyperChipmunkand it opens a 1.0 dewdrop
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20:21.41Amadeo:D
20:21.59hyperChipmunkBulkMail has subgroups and different types and will destroy Amadeo  if he doesn't close that mouth
20:22.08snurrewow needs a /wrist emote for the emos
20:22.11Amadeo:X
20:23.40maiauum, would anyone have a spare minute to take a look at my 10 lines of AceOptions trouble?
20:24.46hyperChipmunkpastebin 'em and I'll take a look when I have a moment
20:25.11maiapastebin seems to be even slower than our svn right now :)
20:25.14Icerothwhat i was trying to say is you can take the table structure from aguf and feed it to aceconsole
20:25.36maiaI'm not having a big structure yet. I can't even get a single option to work
20:25.55hyperChipmunkbut it doesnt' have but one simple execute entry
20:26.09maiayeah, but I need a toggle, not a execute.
20:26.16hyperChipmunkunless all you want is executes, then you're better off with something else
20:26.19maiaI'd want to add all the toggles Squishy has
20:26.27Ratbert_CPace.pastebin.ca is pretty zippy..
20:26.37maiaso I created an empty addon and am slowly moving stuff.
20:26.47hyperChipmunkace.pastebin.ca is ftw; someone should change the topic
20:27.35steinoOo
20:27.42maiahttp://ace.pastebin.ca/91690
20:27.47hyperChipmunk^---much <3 for that guy
20:28.45Ratbert_CPDang!  No shift-click item links into AceOptions.type='text' Dewdrop fields?  Bummer!
20:29.02maiaAll values in argument #2 must be in the form of "/word". Hmm.
20:31.07NeronixRatbert_CP: Ckknight knows about that bug
20:31.35hyperChipmunkyou have a type field in frame
20:31.41Neronixmaia: self:RegisterChatCommand({'/sq2'}, Sq2options )
20:31.46Amadeoanyone remember what revisions of TinyTip work right?
20:31.46Neronixarg1 is self btw
20:31.56hyperChipmunkig
20:31.57hyperChipmunkoh
20:32.00hyperChipmunkyou forgot the /
20:33.18maiaooh, arg1 = self. so I was staring at the wrong part.
20:33.42maiawell, that leads to a new problem:  attempt to index global `self' (a nil value) when trying /sq2
20:34.16maiaguess I'd need to replace the 'self' in the options table by my addon name.
20:34.19Ratbert_CPNeronix: Ah!  So it's a bug, and not a design shortcoming...  Cool.  I kinda like/need that functionality
20:34.45Ratbert_CPWhat about selecting more than one item in a text field with a validation table?
20:35.14NeronixNo clue, ask ckk
20:35.39Icerothmaia, i had trouble with 'self' and options table as well...
20:35.47Icerothtrial & error & horror ftw
20:36.10maiaso are toggles still saved as 1 and false?
20:36.27Neronixthey're saved as real booleans now
20:36.34Neronixno TRUE/FALSE stuff now
20:37.07maiathx.
20:37.11Neronixnp
20:37.18ag`svn = dead?
20:37.27maiaso who said converting an addon to Ace2 is a matter of minutes, not hours? :)
20:37.40NeronixI did O.o
20:37.42steinoprolly a ace2 dev!
20:37.49steino:)
20:38.09NeronixI excluded AceConsole and AceDB when I said that :P
20:38.51maialol
20:39.16maiaprobably you also excluded AceHooks and AceEvents?
20:39.37Ratbert_CPHooks and
20:39.40Ratbert_CP<PROTECTED>
20:39.53Ratbert_CPConsole suxxors...
20:39.55Ratbert_CP;)
20:42.47Icerothi really could have used some more complex examples about options table on wiki docs
20:43.33Iceroththanks to ag for figuring it out for me though :)
20:43.57NeronixIndustrial: I've optimised timestamps a bit
20:44.10NeronixNow uses only 1 replacement function instead of 7
20:44.23Neronixand addmessages run twice as fast
20:44.34ag`did the svn die again?
20:45.19steinoseems like it
20:47.57NeronixI made indy all emo :(
20:50.16kergoth:(
20:50.47Ratbert_CPGrrr...  Is it possible to force order in Dewdrop when using an AceOptions table?
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20:51.49Industrial`http://industrial.infogami.com/
20:51.50Industrial`:)
20:52.00MoonWolfNeronix, yay
20:52.07MoonWolfpeople adoptied a name i suggested.
20:52.15Industrial`Iceroth, is it possible to have the textures in your hud be tga instead of blp
20:52.19Industrial`?
20:52.39NeronixIndustrial`: Can I commit it please?
20:52.58kergothi wonder if ace2 still makes my wow hang on login :\
20:53.00Industrial`commit what?
20:53.03Industrial`oh
20:53.12SoltanisBigwigs / Thadiuss : it's not warning to what charge you have, even though there are options to say it's meant to... haven't looked at the code to see if it has the code for it though
20:53.17Industrial`Neronix, sure :-)
20:54.09kergothsvn down again?
20:54.10kergothsheesh
20:55.42maiais there any documentation for AceTab? Seems as if it could be used for auto-completion of slash commands?
20:55.50Neronix~(4/9)*100
20:55.56purl44.444444444444
20:55.56Soltaniswho's bw module is the thadiuss one?
20:57.01Shyvanot one certain dev, and it has code to announce it Soltanis
20:58.50Soltanishmm odd, ill look harder this time then
20:59.04FryGuy-Soltanis: i think lute made it
20:59.12ag`I need to commit :-)
20:59.16ag`~roulette
20:59.17purlACTION watches ag` pull the trigger:  Click!
20:59.33Industrial`~roulette
20:59.35purlACTION watches industrial` pull the trigger:  Click!
20:59.40Industrial`*phew*
21:00.40wereHamster~roulette
21:00.41purlACTION watches werehamster pull the trigger:  Click!
21:00.51wereHamsterwho's next?
21:01.17Ratbert_CP~roulette
21:01.19purlACTION watches ratbert_cp pull the trigger:  Click!
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21:01.42Soltanisguess ill go post on the forum after the raid
21:02.13Soltanis~roulette
21:02.14purlACTION watches soltanis pull the trigger:  BANG!
21:02.19Soltanismpppp
21:02.22Soltanisnooooo#
21:02.49wereHamstermppp .. :P
21:03.34Soltanishand one letter to far to the right :-(
21:03.40Soltanisanyway back to raid
21:03.51maiaerr. another AceOptions question. This time regarding executes. As it's not  func = self.Blah() not func = MyAddon.Blah() nor func = Blah(), what is it?
21:04.19maia(aka how do I call a function via a ace options execute)?
21:06.08steinoisnt.. func = function() or something :o
21:06.09maiaI can't imagine it's   func = function() MyAddon:DoSomething() end,   is it?
21:06.29steinocheck the wiki!
21:06.36maiait's not in the wiki
21:06.58steinooh
21:06.58steinothen you blame the devs for not making docs!
21:06.59maiaall wiki knows: "function - function to call"
21:06.59maiayay.
21:07.19steinohttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceOptions_data_table#execute
21:07.32steinoits a example there!
21:07.41Icerothfunc = function() self:blah() end ?
21:07.50maiasteino, I'm staring at that page.
21:07.54steinooh
21:08.08Ratbert_CPGrrr...
21:08.22snurre<3 unnerfing WF totem
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21:08.34Ratbert_CPI don't need #@&*($^! message, current or error with my type='text' options...
21:09.24SlaymanCurse this Noth the Plaguebringer Son of a Bitch
21:09.47steinonoth is fun!
21:09.57Industrial`Iceroth, hey thanks gunn mess with the textures now :P
21:09.57maiaapparently Iceroth is correct, you have to enclose the function you want to call in a function.
21:10.32Icerothmaia, funky isn't it?
21:11.05Industrial`Iceroth, :)
21:11.54Icerothah, and eye tentacles killed me so more time to chat
21:12.30IcerothIndustrial`, i was going to say that i can send you my photoshop file as well if you want to mess with them
21:12.45kergothyep, once again, reliably, enabling bulkmail or icehud makes my wow hang on login
21:12.48Industrial`s'ok
21:12.50ag`~c'thun
21:12.52purl*** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - Pleasure! ***
21:13.03maiaso, does anyone know anything about AceTab? I'm getting a mixin error when trying to add it to my AceLibrary(...):new(...)
21:13.11Ratbert_CPDamnit!  I want to disable the #*&$!@ current, message and error "reporters" in type='text' options...
21:14.35Icerothif i remember correctly, something like func = self.somefunction worked as well but passing parameters with that is kinda hard :|
21:15.51Icerothand adding savedvariables: blah in toc requires restart, reloadui won't do the trick :-/
21:16.22MoonWolfchanging anything in the toc requires a reload.
21:16.45Industrial`I love this song
21:16.52Icerothreload yes but not restart
21:17.09MoonWolfthats what i ment.
21:18.09Mikmaag`: ZOMG! layouts!
21:21.22MoonWolfhey kergoth i have a nice new toy
21:21.50MoonWolflua scripting for xchat.
21:22.12Mikmaheh
21:22.18Mikmaif irc then end
21:22.53MoonWolfI'm going to build a nice thingy for processing small snippets of code.
21:23.23MoonWolfwho needs luac if you can do things like that right in your irc client.
21:25.17Soltaniswhat menu is gaining a debuff, in normal blizzard combat log?
21:27.11Mikmagod damn we need a new, and better AceTimer
21:27.29CIA-1103ag * r5095 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Themes.lua ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
21:27.29CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
21:27.30CIA-11<PROTECTED>
21:27.30Mikmai hate the "feature" that it loses it's saved position if i enter the game without having the addon loaded
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21:28.22Ratbert_CPAhhh... Damn!  AceOptions isn't what I need...  *grumble*
21:28.32Ratbert_CPWell...  Maybe...  Hmmm...
21:29.32Mikmaag`: ag_UnitFrames.lua:593: attempt to call a nil value
21:29.38Mikmaag`: i tried to change layout to oUF
21:30.16Industrial`Mikma, wanna test idUnitframes for a sec? alt drag should work now.
21:30.31MikmaIndustrial`: what's there to test then?
21:30.38Industrial`nothing :<
21:31.19ag`Mikma, did you just check this out
21:31.27ag`r5095
21:31.53Mikmaag`: just downloaded that one, too.
21:32.00ag`did you get any errors?
21:32.00Amadeoaww
21:32.07Mikmabut the error i got was with the previous version
21:32.13AmadeoMicrosoft bought Winternals, omg
21:32.26maiaAce2 question: what's the replacement for   function MyAddon:msg(...) self.cmd:msg(unpack(arg)) end   ?
21:33.20MikmaIndustrial`: and yes, i can test it
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21:34.20Mikmaag`: seems like when i deleted my SV and updated the layouts work
21:34.31Mikmaag`: the PerfectRaid layout is sweet ;)
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21:35.04Mikmaag`: altho! one bug!
21:35.10ag`what
21:35.26Mikmaag`: try switching from ABF to PerfectRaid ;)
21:35.29Mikmayou'll see what happens
21:35.34ag`ok
21:35.39ag`watching a movie so
21:35.41Mikmawell i'll spoil it anyway
21:35.50ag`ok
21:35.59Mikmaxp-bar stops moving and stick around the place where the bar was
21:36.24Mikmadoesn't move with the unitframe at all. just stays where it was before the layout-change
21:36.33ag`hehe
21:36.35ag`funky
21:36.47ag`I think it's easy to fix
21:36.58ag`anyway, watching a movie so I will fix it after that
21:37.10Mikmaokies :)
21:37.13ag`when it's done I'll commit and add a forum post for the addon
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21:37.34ThraeYawn, yawn.
21:37.40ag`~roulette
21:37.42purlACTION watches ag` pull the trigger:  Click!
21:38.21AmadeoThrae: FINALLY!
21:38.23Amadeo:P
21:38.25snurrewhat damagemeters is in photekui?
21:38.35AmadeoThrae: The tips for corpses/minerals and stuff like that won't show up still!
21:38.38AmadeoI've been dyinngggggg
21:38.45Amadeook now brb ;P
21:39.18Soltaniscan't find anything in combat log for gaining a charge and thaddius... anyone know what it would be under?
21:39.28Soltanisat*
21:39.50ThraeAmadeo: That's only with the Extra Tooltip enabled, right?
21:40.35kergothdamnit
21:40.47kergothi wish outfitter would remember what set i had on across logout/reloadui
21:40.52kergothsays custom, when its really normal+riding
21:41.00MikmaIndustrial`: is the "simon says" bug fixed?
21:41.18Industrial`Mikma, no not yet
21:41.34Mikmakkk, klux klux klan etc
21:41.35maiaAce2 question: is it faster to copy the AceDB data to locals and use them instead? Did so in Ace1 as I assumed GetOpt() would cause extra cpu load.
21:41.43Industrial`Mikma, I did fix the raid leader thing and idActionButtons' pet bar works correctly now
21:42.09kergothmaia: copy?
21:42.25kergothlocal a = b doesnt copy b, it just creates a local reference to the value stored in b
21:43.17maiaaka  function self:GetSettings() self.OptionA = self.db.profile.OptionA; self.OptionB = self.db.profile.OptionB end
21:43.44kergothits -slightly- faster since theres less table lookups. you dont have to look up db in self, then profile in the db table, then..
21:43.48Thraemaia: To your question, it's faster doing local db = self.db, though self is already a local
21:43.51maiaor can I directly use self.db.profile. even in fuctions that are triggered hundreds of times per second
21:44.20maiaI see. hmm. thanks. :)
21:44.29MikmaIndustrial`: for some reason i don't see your uf's at all
21:44.39Thraemaia: Using local references (which are not copies) to avoid deeply nested table lookups will give a tiny bit of speed improvement.
21:44.50maiaokay, so I'll stick to them
21:45.03Thraemaia: The only time you should really worry about it is when you have a function that is called a LOT.
21:45.08Industrial`Mikma, hmm weird try using idUnitframes.Frames.player:SetPoint()
21:45.11ThraeLike a UNIT_HEALTH event, etc.
21:45.50MikmaIndustrial`: nope, only error
21:46.12Industrial`Mikma, hmm weird try using idUnitframes.Frames.player:SetPoint('CENTER', UIParent, 'CENTER', 0, 0)
21:46.15Industrial`:p
21:46.21Mikmai did, error
21:46.25Industrial`what error
21:46.40Thraemaia: Now if you REALLY want to speed things up, make local references to frame methods. Like local fSetPoint = UIParent.SetPoint
21:46.41Mikmai'll type it soon
21:46.51maiaokay.
21:47.17maiawill try to convert my addon to Ace2 first, then optimize stuff. good to know though.
21:47.21Industrial`mmmmm/nick Industrial
21:47.24Neronix`afkmaia: self:print (provided by aceconsole) replaces self:msg
21:47.30Thraemaia: The code for using a frame's method means it has to iterate over all frame methods to find the right one. It's a pretty slow process.
21:48.11CIA-1103neronix * r5096 10idChatTimestamps/idChatTimestamps.lua:
21:48.11CIA-11idChatTimestamps
21:48.11CIA-11- Added some optimisations
21:48.11CIA-11- Changed date format to %X (A short way of doing %H:%D:%S)
21:48.11CIA-11- Changed so it only uses one replacement function rather than 7
21:48.11CIA-11- As a result, CFX:AddMessage now runs in 44% of the time
21:48.32ag`in a fuction called on UNIT_HEALTH, where I need to get a setting, should I copy that setting from the db to an addon local or can I use self.db.profile.setting... without using too much mem/cpu?
21:48.35NeronixAt least according to my test code which I run inside of scite :P
21:49.40Thraeag`: We just went over this...it's marginally better to use local profiledb = self.db.profile
21:50.15ThraeIf your function gets called enough, like UNIT_HEALTH, it's probably a good idea. Little optimizations add up.
21:50.36ag`but it doesn't increase memory usage a lot though not to
21:50.53Thraeag`: It doesn't increase memory usage at all.
21:51.07ag`as I remember using GetOpt in Ace1 would skyrocket your memory usage
21:51.46ThraeThere was no such function GetOpt in Ace1
21:51.57ThraeI think you mean self.db:get
21:52.02ag`yeah
21:52.28snurrehttp://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2874/patchwerkdpska1.png  <-- which addon is that?
21:52.35ThraeWell, this is Ace2. In Ace1, the db was a special object which had functions associated with it.
21:52.41Tekcubeveryone wrapped a self.db:get into a GetOpt, I don't know why it was the standard
21:52.46steinosnurre: swstas
21:52.47ThraeThat may not be the case with Ace2.
21:52.49steinoswstats*
21:52.56steinoafaik
21:52.59SunTigerTekcub, i blame rowne for that one.
21:53.05hyperChipmunkwtf *adjusts moire*
21:53.15ThraeAnyway, I'm sure Ace2 has better optimized code.
21:53.45ag`I like the Ace2 way better
21:54.54Thraeag`: If you really want a speed up, put Frame:Foo calls into local references. Like I said, those are horribly slow.
21:55.23NeronixIndexing a frame is much slower than indexing a normal table?
21:55.25ThraeFrame:Foo becomes local fFoo = Frame.Foo, then you call it by fFoo(Frame,...)
21:55.58Tekcubyea
21:56.01ThraeYou're not indexing a Frame when you do Frame:Foo. Instead, it is an iterative function which finds the correct C function to call.
21:56.01NeronixI see
21:56.09AmadeoThrae: I have everything at defaults
21:56.12AmadeoThrae: So I have no idea
21:56.22AmadeoTell me how to check :)
21:56.27AmadeoSince I'm back now!
21:56.39Neronixwas wondering why everyone's so uptight. Just tested running an empty function called lol.kek.bur.foo 100k times
21:56.52CIA-1103chinkuwaila * r5097 10BigWigs/MC/ (Lucifron.lua Magmadar.lua): BigWigs (Lucifron, Magmadar): updadet deDE localization
21:57.11ThraeAmadeo: /ttip to open up the config menu, then go to Extras->Extra Tooltip
21:57.11Neronix0.03 seconds, and that's as heavily affected by os.time's rounding
21:57.30AmadeoThrae: It's off
21:57.34Amadeoshould I turn it on?
21:57.45ThraeNo, let me check if --I-- can see corpses.
21:57.55snurrehm, can swstats sync with dm?
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21:58.02Amadeook :)
21:58.09NeronixThrae: By the way, object tooltips don't work (mines, herbs, quest things, etc)
21:58.12AmadeoThrae: minerals too!
21:58.20AmadeoNeronix knows!
21:58.21Amadeo:D
21:58.24ThraeYeah, I heard ya.
21:58.25AmadeohyperChipmunk: Sorry :X
21:58.31NeronixResetted to defaults via menu, rled - no worky
21:58.37NeronixTinyTipDB = nil, rl, no worky
21:58.42hyperChipmunk?
21:58.49AmadeohyperChipmunk: You didn't get my joke :P
21:59.08hyperChipmunkwasn't paying attention
21:59.11hyperChipmunkjust saw the yellow
21:59.40Amadeo17:58 < Amadeo> :D
21:59.42Amadeo17:58 < Amadeo> hyperChipmunk: Sorry :X
21:59.44Amadeoget it!?
21:59.54hyperChipmunkah
22:00.00hyperChipmunkyea, shut that mouth
22:00.05Ratbert_CPHmmm...  Any way to get the frame from Dewdrop?  i.e., local UIFrame = dewdrop:Open(UIParent, 'children', AceOptionsTable)
22:00.16hyperChipmunkjust got out of a 1h17m wsg match
22:00.23Amadeohaha
22:00.27steinosnurre: not with DM, only with itself
22:00.30hastezomg!
22:00.35snurrethat sucks :(
22:00.37hasteag`: oUF theme ;D ?
22:00.39steinoyep
22:00.41AmadeoThrae: I turned on the extra tooltip and then back off again, now the tooltips are totally broken
22:00.43steinotho
22:00.47steinoits like recap with sync!
22:00.52hyperChipmunkso I'm still a bit tuned in
22:00.54ag`haste, yeah :o
22:01.03Mikmaouf-theme :)
22:01.07hyperChipmunkthat swstats looks like a moire adjustment gone horribly wrong; who would do that on purpose
22:01.28maiahyperChipmunk: can you give me a hint on how to use AceTab?
22:01.30hastemore competition!
22:01.38hasteand still the same amount of time to code :(
22:01.43hyperChipmunkmaia: soon as it works!
22:01.46ag`I read the layouts from a table
22:01.53hasteTime for food! ;D
22:01.55maiahyperChipmunk: oh, okay.
22:02.04ag`I just ate some food :o
22:02.10hyperChipmunkag`: gratz
22:02.41Mikmawho want's some screenshots of new aguf themes? ;)
22:02.58hyperChipmunkwill they make me reach for my monitor controls?
22:03.44AmadeohyperChipmunk: Mikma's hoping it'll make you reach for your groin!
22:03.52hyperChipmunkschweet
22:04.00ag`~roulette
22:04.03purlACTION watches ag` pull the trigger:  Click!
22:04.07ThraeHmmm.
22:04.20AmadeoThrae: I was lost without you
22:04.23ThraeI am getting herb tooltips.
22:04.25AmadeoI didn't want to live
22:05.27ThraeI am also getting Corpse tooltips of dead Players and NPCs.
22:05.34AmadeoThrae: I also tried deleting my saved variable files and reloading
22:05.35Amadeobut no go
22:05.50ThraeAmadeo: Disable all your addons except TinyTip and see if that does anything.
22:05.58Amadeook
22:06.09Amadeolet me find a corpse first :P
22:06.23snurreis there any good reason to use msbt over sct btw?
22:06.31Amadeoyeah
22:06.31hyperChipmunkpersonal preference
22:06.39AmadeoGrayhoof didn't make MSBT!
22:06.42snurrelol
22:06.43Amadeoooooh!
22:06.44Amadeojust kidding
22:06.48snurreany good reason? :p
22:06.52AmadeoI have nothing against him or anyone
22:06.57hyperChipmunkpersonal preference is good enough for me
22:07.14snurrehavent really had time to try out msbt yet
22:07.16hyperChipmunkbut if you like 'em equally, then not really
22:07.27hyperChipmunki fell in love with it immediately
22:07.27Tupladbah
22:07.30Tupladgonna get BugSack back
22:07.32TupladIEF sucs
22:07.33Tupladsucks*
22:07.47hyperChipmunkwelcome to clueville, Tuplad
22:07.50AmadeoThrae: Interesting, I'm getting corpse tooltips now.....and I had just removed Nurfed Combat Log and Unit Frames recently...wonder if that's why
22:07.51Tuplad:D
22:08.07TainI like MSBT's three different zones more.  It's so simple to configure.
22:08.14AmadeoNeronix: Do you use Nurfed addons at all?
22:08.44TupladDoes AceTimer still looks the same ?
22:09.19Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/aguf/aguf-themes.jpg
22:09.31Mikmathere's some layouts for you :)
22:09.32AmadeoThrae: but when I turned on extra tooltips and back off again, they still broke!
22:09.43hasteMikma: I do, wonder how the oUF theme looks :p
22:09.53Mikmahaste: it's in that picture
22:10.20hasteIt looks, strange :OO
22:10.37Mikmaag`: aye! HideXPBar is missing!
22:10.54Amadeoag`: I'm still getting the error when I try to turn off party aura filter
22:11.10ThraeAmadeo: Yes, I know about that bug, but more importantly, what about corpses, herbs, et. all?
22:11.15MikmaAmadeo: newest revision + deleted your SV?
22:11.16TupladWorf: you there?
22:11.19AmadeoMikma: Yeah
22:11.24WorfTuplad: yep
22:11.40TupladWobin: Got a screenie of CC_Note?
22:11.41MikmaAmadeo: what'cha trying to do? i'll test it too
22:11.44AmadeoThrae: I'm getting the tooltips now, but earlier today I had removed Nurfed Unit Frames, Utilities and Combat Log, so I'm wondering if that was the conflict
22:11.50Jagobahmikma!!
22:11.56JagobahWhere can I get that minimap art :O
22:12.05MikmaJagobah: http://wow.reaktio.net/Mikma
22:12.10AmadeoMikma: /aguf > Units > Party > Aura Filter
22:12.14Jagobah^_^
22:12.15Jagobahty
22:12.30ThraeNeronix: Do you use Nurfed UNit Frames, Utilities, and/or Nurfed Combat Log?
22:12.46NeronixNope
22:12.54TupladWobin: that message wasnt for you, my bad
22:12.57TupladWorf: Got a screenie of CC_Note?
22:13.07MikmaAmadeo: works for me tho, but the partymember doesn't have any buffs on
22:13.09AmadeoThrae: I'm way confused why it's working now then
22:13.14NeronixThrae: I have corpse tooltips btw
22:13.15WorfTuplad: i do think i did add one to the download page
22:13.17TainMikma: The trade channel on your server sells a LOT different things than on my server, judging from that screenshot.
22:13.21Amadeowtf is going on!
22:13.22Amadeohaha
22:13.26ThraeNeronix: Whenever you get a chance, please try disabling all your addons and see if the corpses, etc. come back.
22:13.29AmadeoI did *not* have corpse tooltips last night
22:13.29WorfTuplad: hold on...
22:13.36ThraeAmadeo: Enable all your addons and see if the tooltips go away again.
22:13.37NeronixI DO have corpse tooltips
22:13.44Amadeoyeah!
22:13.49Tuplad:o Worf: I was browsing the SVN, actually
22:13.50NeronixIt's just resource nodes and quest objects that are missing for me
22:13.53Tupladis it on wowi?
22:13.54MikmaTain: yeah sorry about that, my GF started some Keira Knightley / Lesbian talk in there, and they switched into privatechannel after that ;D
22:13.56Amadeoer
22:13.58Neronixbut I'll try that anyway
22:14.10AmadeoThrae: All my addons are enabled and it seems my tips are working again
22:14.22Amadeobut I swear I've been playing for 3-4 days with them missing
22:14.29Amadeoand I've been deleting saved variables/reloading, etc
22:14.29ThraeHmmm, odd.
22:14.30Amadeohaha
22:14.34AmadeoI'm way confused now
22:14.43TupladWorf: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5082 I found it :)
22:14.59WorfTuplad: i was just about to give you that link :)
22:15.17ThraeWith the Extra Tooltip disabled, I don't see why you'd be getting hidden tooltips. I don't hide GameTooltip.
22:15.23Worfsigh - i should really continue my work on that
22:15.45Amadeoag`: /aguf > Units > Party > Aura Filter -- ag_UnitFrames.lua:605: attempt to call a nil value
22:15.46hastehttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4606-1-iscasting.html << comment there :p
22:16.17ag`ok
22:16.17ag`afk for one hour or so btw
22:16.33MikmaAmadeo: redownload the current version and delete your WTF/Account/YOU/SavedVariables/ag_UnitFrames.lua and try again
22:16.37Neronixhaste: Wait till he finds out that embedded libs don't hurt computers, and that Ace2 is a set of them :P
22:16.53ag`Amadeo, try /script aUF:Reset() and then reloadui and see if it helps
22:17.00Amadeook
22:17.27hasteNeronix: he complains that it uses sea, and wants it to use Ace2 :p
22:17.31Mikmahaste: umh... that comment makes no sense :D
22:17.37hasteNeronix: or any other libary that doesn't hurt his computer
22:17.54hastesome people really dislike Sea I guess
22:18.02NeronixSeems I misinterpreted him
22:18.09Mikmawell that person has had less info about ace2 than he have thought...
22:18.12Amadeoag`: Same error
22:18.18Mikma"so sad, this seems so useful, but i just hate sea so much. :/ any chance you can do an ace2 version, or one that doesn't have embedded libraries that hurt my computer and make it work at half the speed? "
22:18.32Mikma"ace2 or ont that doesn't have embedded libraries"
22:18.33Mikmakk
22:18.51Industrialhttp://img469.imageshack.us/img469/313/wowscrnshot071906001649rp3.jpg
22:18.53IndustrialIceroth, --^
22:18.57Industrial^_________^
22:19.48maiahmm, is it possible the old MetrognomeLib doesn't work in Ace2 addons? None of my former working scheduled functions are triggered.
22:20.08WorfTuplad: i started to do a Core module, porting to Ace2, etc... however - i stopped when having troubles handling the console commands
22:20.35*** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be)
22:20.48Mikmastart the party!
22:20.51Mikmatuplad left!
22:20.56Worfhmm... i seem to scare people off :)
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22:21.22Worfah - there he is again :)
22:21.41Tupladme ? :p
22:21.46WorfTuplad: i started to do a Core module, porting to Ace2, etc... however - i stopped when having troubles handling the console commands
22:22.07Tuplad:(
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22:22.41Worfactually i hoped for a good example... maybe i should check the wiki again :)
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22:23.15Amadeoag`: I can't get the PvP icon to hide anymore either
22:23.41Tupladanyone here uses Alkitron_HonorTab ?
22:24.17Industrialme
22:24.19Industrialno just kidding
22:24.20Industrial:P
22:24.38Tuplad=_=
22:25.25hastehaha
22:25.30hastepaladins are fun in groups
22:25.37hastemy rogue was stun locked to death by three paladins
22:25.43Tuplad:D
22:25.56hasteHoJ, HoJ, HoJ, The thing on R x3
22:25.56CodayusAnyone got a torrent/dl link for the 1.12 ptr patch?
22:26.08Tupladeh, a question, lets say, I select 10 addons in my folder that are on the SVN, but I didnt get them from the svn, is there a way of updating all of the selected ones from the svn ?
22:26.38Mikmawhat?
22:26.57hyperChipmunkjust check them out
22:27.05Tupladum
22:27.17TupladI selected all oRA addons, I didnt update them for a long time.
22:27.30TupladBut none of them are from the SVN. They are on the SVN but I didnt get them from there.
22:28.04hastedelete and checkout
22:28.10TupladIf I select all folder that I got from the SVN(with a green icon), and select update, it'll update them all, I wanna do the same but for the folders without green icon.
22:28.14Tuplad:(
22:28.22TupladCant I mass download them ?
22:28.40Amadeowhy is it that my mouse skips pixels?
22:28.52Tupladtoo high sensitivity?
22:28.54TupladI had it in CS :)
22:28.56MikmaTuplad: they are not from svn if you didn't get them from svn..
22:29.05AmadeoTuplad: But it's a 1600 DPI mouse
22:29.12TupladMikma: They are on the SVN, but I downloaded them from WoWi.
22:29.34TupladAmadeo: no idea wether that's much or not
22:29.44MikmaTuplad: they are not from svn if you didn't get them from svn..
22:29.52TupladX_X k
22:30.09TupladBigWigs is a timer AND blocks the spam in chat, right ?
22:30.11AmadeoTuplad: it's higher but not highest...I think 2000 is highest now or so, and 600 - 800 is usually default
22:30.22Tupladaha
22:30.26hasteon the way from the Bulwark to UC - I got ganked seven times
22:30.41hasteor actually
22:30.45hasteI'm only half-way :p
22:31.10Tupladhaha
22:31.33Tupladkergoth: I love you for MSBTLoot
22:34.31snurrehm, ora maintankframes not working with ora2? :(
22:34.59hasteyou shouldn't be using oRA2 after what I know :p
22:35.09steinoxD
22:35.46snurrepfft, don't put it in trunk then! :p
22:36.22hastewrong
22:36.28hastetrunk is usually "bleeding edge"
22:36.35hastejust that people here think trunk = stable
22:36.48snurreit should be! :(
22:36.51snurrei blame you!
22:37.24ThraeGreat. Now I'm getting the impossibly long pauses when loading TinyTipOptions.
22:37.33maiaanyone know how to feed Dewdrop-2.0 with the slash command table?
22:38.05maiaor anyone know an addon that is using Dewdrop-2.0?
22:38.25Thraemaia: TinyTip uses it, but it doesn't use AceConsole.
22:38.30maiahmm.
22:38.33ThraeTinyTipOptions, to be more specific.
22:38.35Neronixmaia: dewdrop:Register(MyFrame, "children", AnAceOptionsTable)
22:38.44maiaNeronix: thats all? wow.
22:38.51Neronixyep
22:39.17Amadeogod
22:39.20AmadeoI hate mouse acceleration
22:39.48hyperChipmunkyea, DD2 works right with AceOptions
22:39.51ThraeI bet something is hooking LoadAddon, but I don't know why TinyTip is making it freeze.
22:43.16maiaNeronix: thanks, it really worked. Now the only 2 remaining questions are: how can I hide stuff from being displayed in the dewdrop menu, and how can I sort the options (other than alphabetically)?
22:44.18hyperChipmunkheh heh
22:44.25hyperChipmunkthose are dangerous questions
22:44.37NeronixI think the sorting thing is a current design limitation. Bug ckk
22:44.46AmadeoAnyone use a G5 or Copperhead?
22:44.46hyperChipmunkbasically, you don't; that's the price you pay for 1-line, three-arg GUI
22:44.59hyperChipmunkuse a full DewDrop if you want that
22:45.48NeronixAnd hiding can be done by including the optional disabled field in things
22:46.13Tupladhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4599-1-enemy-cooldown-count.html
22:46.15Tupladthis is great!
22:46.51Tupladgonna try it out :D
22:46.52maiawouldnt it be possible to add a simple number to each option in the table, and then the dewdrop is sorted by these numbers?
22:47.07hyperChipmunkmaia: not at the moment
22:47.16maiaNeronix: if I use the disabled field, I assumed it's not being displayed in the chat options either?
22:47.16Neronixagain, bug ckknight
22:47.19Neronixwherever he is
22:47.20hyperChipmunkwe're working out how we're going to do it
22:47.24Neronixmaia: correct
22:47.29maiahrm
22:47.30hyperChipmunkit's currently a matter of debate
22:48.11maiaokay, so people just have to deal with it and I'll keep hoping for an improved Dewdrop-2.0 / AceOptions
22:48.13Neronixthough you could maybe add dewdrop:IsOpen(MyParentFrame) to the function that does disabled
22:48.24hyperChipmunkmaia: it's basically a graphical console
22:48.35hyperChipmunkfor people who are afraid of slash-commands
22:49.09hyperChipmunkwhen AceGUI2 comes around, we'll have an AceOptionsGUI that lets you organize and stuff
22:49.10Neronixdisabled = function() if dewdrop:IsOpen(MyParent) then return true; else return false; end
22:49.12Neronixend
22:49.14maiahyperChipmunk: yeah, but I'd still like to be able to sort stuff (actually also in the console), plus hide the option to hide the frame in the dewdrop menu, as otherwise you won't be able to bring back the frame (unless you know the console command)
22:49.54Neronixmaia: look 3 lines up
22:49.55hyperChipmunkyou can make a binding for the menu
22:50.05maiaNeronix: trying it this moment.
22:50.14hyperChipmunkDewdrop lets you do all sorts of stuff
22:50.21MikmaAmadeo: what about g5?
22:50.37hyperChipmunkthat's what you get with a simple aceoptions table though
22:50.59hyperChipmunkit's pretty good, if you ask me
22:51.15NeronixDoing it raw lets you do powerful stuff
22:51.19hyperChipmunkyea
22:51.27hyperChipmunkif you want bells and whistles, make a real dewdrop
22:51.57AmadeoMikma: Do you have one?
22:52.10maiaNeronix: hmm, I don't really know how to use the disabled setting in the AceOptions table - there's no example and I can't think of a way to add a boolean, a function and a string at once.
22:52.13hyperChipmunkor wait until a way to designate ordering is included in aceoptions
22:52.26snurrehaste: any plans of adding hp% in ouf?
22:52.37hastesnurre: on the bar?
22:52.46snurreyeah
22:52.54maiahyperChipmunk: I just deleted 150 lines of code by replacing the old dewdrop - I'll wait for the ordering.
22:52.57hasteI've been thinking about it ;)
22:52.59hyperChipmunksnurre: it's extremely easy to code locally
22:53.06snurrecould show on the right-hand end of the bar
22:53.12hyperChipmunkthat's where I put it
22:53.13snurrehyperChipmunk: im sure it is..... :p
22:53.14Neronixmaia: You give it either a boolean, function or string
22:53.37maiaoh
22:53.38hyperChipmunkjust copy the stuff that's .HP and .Power and make .HPPerc and .PowerPerc
22:53.47snurreI'm more of the... testing part of this community, I couldn't code if my life dependant on it :p
22:54.11hyperChipmunksec, i'll throw my local up in a branch
22:55.12MikmaAmadeo: nope, G4
22:55.41Amadeooh ok
22:56.39MikmaAmadeo: but, what about it? :)
22:57.28hastesnurre: That's were I've thought about puting it
22:57.46hastemaybe a option between there, and outside the frame (on the right)
22:57.52maiaNeronix: thanks. it's working. any idea on how to also hide stuff like About, Active, Profile?
22:58.33CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5098 10/branches/oUF/ (12 files in 3 dirs):
22:58.33CIA-11oUF (hC branch): Initial import
22:58.33CIA-11- Right-aligned single-line buff and debuff rows
22:58.33CIA-11- Percentage display on the right inside edge of the HP/Power bars
22:59.50maiaNeronix: oh, and your code doesn't work for execute, only for toggle (and maybe others)
22:59.51Neronixmaia: Hmm, we could employ a slightly hackish way
23:00.19Neronixyeah, there doesn't seem to be a hidden field for execute, only disabled, which greys it out
23:00.27CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk 07hC * r5099 10oUF/:
23:00.27CIA-11oUF (hC branch):
23:00.27CIA-11- externals set
23:01.03hyperChipmunkthere, that ought to do it
23:01.19Neronixdo for k,v in pairs(YourOptionsTable.args) do print(k) end and tell me if about, active and profile come up
23:01.32maiaNeronix: actually, your code only hides one of the options. The disabled code seems to be ignored for latter options
23:01.52maia(I added it to 3 toggles and 2 executes, only the first toggle is hidden)
23:01.56NeronixWeird
23:02.28NeronixThink we should bug ckknight about that
23:02.36maiapossible that it's related to me using   if dewdrop and dewdrop:IsOpen(MyParent) then  ... ?
23:02.49maiaas I had a bug when not checking for the existance of dewdrop initially
23:03.36Maxinnxwhat program do you guys use to edit lua files?
23:05.24ThraehyperChipmunk: Something about BulkMail (probably the libraries BulkMail includes) is causing LoadAddon to get into an endless loop.
23:05.26Mikmasmultron <3
23:05.33NeronixMaxinnx: cladhaire's custom scite distro
23:06.06ThraeI think it has to do with AceLibrary.
23:06.26MaxinnxNeronix: thx, I'll check it out
23:06.33CIA-1103hyperactiveChipmunk * r5100 10Ace2/ (AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua AceTab-2.0/AceTab-2.0.lua):
23:06.33CIA-11AceTab-2.0:
23:06.33CIA-11- completion list header not shown if a usage function is provided
23:06.33CIA-11AceConsole-2.0:
23:06.34CIA-11- restructured for altered behavior of AceTab: receives table from AceTab, rather than creating its own and returning
23:06.43maiaNeronix: actually it doesnt work at all. Hmm.
23:07.00hyperChipmunkTem: like so?
23:07.30snurreoh, thanks for the branch hC.. working like a charm :)
23:08.01Tupladbah, someone should add a "lock" option to perfect raid
23:08.43maiaNeronix: ooh. I was using local dewdrop ... in a different file than I'm using my options in.
23:09.11hyperChipmunksnurre: my pleasure; hopefully makes it easier for haste to implement, as well
23:09.47hyperChipmunkbest way to get what you want is to do the work yourself, I find =)
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23:11.14CIA-1103neronix * r5101 10Lexan/Lexan.lua: Lexan - Fixed "no AH_OFF" error
23:11.24AmadeoThrae: Is that why FruityLoot is taking up 1700 KiB only when agUF is "installed"?
23:11.48ThraeAha! Updated BulkMail and all is well.
23:11.55snurrelol
23:12.05ThraeAmadeo: Not sure...
23:12.21snurre0.301 - FruitLoots (3865KiB) -GC-
23:12.23snurreno thanks
23:12.37Amadeoyeah, something is wrong with it
23:12.47Thraesnurre: Probably just your first addon to load Ace2
23:12.59kergothmy warmup shows 25K for fruityloots
23:13.03AmadeoThrae: In my case it isn't, it's ag_UnitFrames
23:13.12Amadeokergoth: If you throw agUF in there, it gets huge
23:13.14AmadeoI dunno why
23:13.33kergothodd. i'm using oUF atm, though i have the player, target, and targettarget disabled
23:13.35Amadeois it a warmup bug?
23:14.22kergothwarmup does need adjusting, it needs to initiate a GC before it takes its measurement after an addon loads, in case there were temporary allocations thatll just get freed
23:14.28kergothck branched it, dunno if he's modified i tyet
23:14.36kergothi made that change locally and its quite a bit more accurate
23:14.49hyperChipmunkck's branched version lists all ace2 addons at like 6MiB
23:16.13AmadeoI love how Southshore has like no f'ing guards
23:16.17kergothmine did that at first too
23:16.18AmadeoHorde can pretty much just stand *IN* town
23:16.23Amadeoand no guards spawn
23:16.30kergothhad to comment out some of tek's code to attempt to detect the gc's and stuff
23:16.34kergoththen it was fine
23:16.56kergothsvn co http://kergoth.com/svn/wow/trunk/KergothWOWBits/Addons/Warmup .. its hacked up, but it does work
23:17.10kergothreally it needs to get trimmed down and cleaned up to the basics, i think ck was planning on doing that
23:17.37Mikmakergoth: hacked how?
23:17.38Tekcubokey, noone explained AceLocale to the people editing BW did they?
23:17.50Wobinhttp://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/3802326.html?style=mine#cutid1
23:17.52Wobinomg so cute
23:17.52Tekcubif you don't translate the sting, don't redefine it...
23:18.12kergothMikma: just shoveled in the collectgarbage's and commented out some of the code that interfered with the numbers
23:18.13WobinI love the tauren baby
23:18.16CIA-1103ag * r5102 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua):
23:18.17CIA-11ag_UnitFrames -
23:18.17CIA-11<PROTECTED>
23:18.34Neronixugh
23:18.43ThraeYeah, TinyTipOptions and TinyTipExtras causing an infinite loop is definately a problem with AceLibrary.
23:18.47Neronixckknight needs to make having a get method in text type options optional
23:19.08kergothThrae: hmm, i've been seeing hangs on login with icehud and bulkmail with current ace2...
23:19.13kergothThrae: wonder if its a related issue
23:19.31NeronixFor example, Bulkmail's autosend add and EarPlug's add pattern don't need it >.>
23:20.07Thraekergoth: I just updated BulkMail and the hangs stopped. I noticed AceLibrary.lua was deleted and redownloaded.
23:20.26maiaNeronix: finally found the problem I had: your code was using MyParent. Well, that sounded so official I didn't even think of replacing it with my frame name.
23:20.55hyperChipmunkcircuscookies: I love how the dwarf already has assloads of hair.
23:20.59hyperChipmunkhehhee
23:21.03kergothThrae: ah, svn is back i take it..
23:21.11Neronixmaia: haha
23:21.13ThraeInteresting, AceLibrary's externals are all screwy in TortoiseSVN
23:21.29kergotha lot of addons have borked externals
23:21.38kergothsome have 'libs' dirs but put the external on the main dir, not libs
23:21.42kergothso they end up in the wrong place
23:21.52Neronixyeah
23:21.55hyperChipmunkyea, if you do externals with a \, you suck
23:22.08ThraehyperChipmunk: Isn't BulkMail your project?
23:22.14hyperChipmunkyes
23:22.22ThraeThat's what YOU do >.<
23:22.27hyperChipmunkdo I?
23:22.39hyperChipmunkno I don't, you moron
23:22.42ThraeYou have a "lib" directory and put all the externals in your root directory
23:22.48hyperChipmunklib/Ace2/AceLibrary                     http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Ace2/AceLibrary
23:22.52hyperChipmunkright
23:22.55hyperChipmunkbut I use /, not \
23:23.04hyperChipmunk\ screws it up something fierce
23:23.17maiaNeronix: but now I managed to click on the "Active" button in my dewdrop menu. Well. now my addon seems to be in a semi-dead state. /ace list is saying it's enabled. but the slash command doesnt even exist.
23:23.23hyperChipmunker, I don't put them in the root directory
23:24.10ThraehyperChipmunk: I'm talking about the svn:externals tag
23:24.14maiaI assume I toggled the standby mode - but how to I get an addon back again?
23:24.30hyperChipmunkoh
23:24.55hyperChipmunkI think they got grandfathered there when I switched to Ace2; I didn't have a lib directory before
23:25.06hyperChipmunkthen ace2 and pt got put in, and it was like omfg
23:25.15hyperChipmunk70 externalz
23:25.17Neronixmaia: No clue, sorry
23:25.30NeronixI haven't used that stuff yet
23:25.40hyperChipmunk:%s/^/lib\/
23:25.46maiahmm, /ace2 list ace2 is telling my my addon is in Standby mode. There's no option to get it back. gah.
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23:26.38hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
23:27.28maiahyperChipmunk: well, as soon as an addon is in standby mode it's chat handler is deactivated.
23:27.43maiaso there is no /sq2 (which I renamed back to /squishy btw)
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23:34.21maiahmm. a restart fixed it. weird.
23:34.46ThraeCrap, I killed the SVN by asking to Update two different mods =/
23:34.59kergothkilled?
23:35.12ThraeYeah, it's not responding anymore.
23:35.32cladhairei can get to teh svn just fine
23:35.37cladhairelol
23:35.49ThraeAh, there it goes, it just took about 2 minutes to start
23:36.13CIA-1103tekkub 07Ace2 * r5103 10BigWigs/ (13 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
23:36.13CIA-11BigWigs (Ace2 Branch)
23:36.13CIA-11- Cleaned up translation functions.
23:36.13CIA-11*** NOTE TO TRANSLATORS ***
23:36.14CIA-11You don _NOT_ need to declare a stirng in your table if you don't translate it.
23:36.16CIA-11AceLocale will automatically fall back to the english version if a local version
23:36.18CIA-11is not found. If you only declare strings that are translated, this will help
23:36.38NeronixSomeone's been clogging Thrae's tubes
23:36.52TekcubI can healp clear those out
23:36.52NeronixThrae's internets no worky :(
23:36.58Tekcub*grabs the inflatable*
23:37.07cladhaireThrae: My ISP had serious issues last night, they're still cleaning up
23:38.09Thraecladhaire: By the way, I found a rather serious bug with AceLibrary + LoadOnDemand addons. It seems certain revisions of AceLibrary, when auto-updated by TinyTipOptions / TinyTipExtras's newer revision during the LoadAddOn process, cause WoW to lock up in an infinite loop.
23:38.41Thraecladhaire: Updating all my Ace2 mods so their AceLibrary revisions match my mod's fixed this problem.
23:39.16Amadeohey look, a new addon from your favorite author
23:39.20Amadeohttp://wowinterface.com/downloads/info5181-ReURL.html
23:39.34Mikmaya
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23:46.33NeronixhyperChipmunk: Is there a way to stop the "X has been set to Y" spam from AceConsole?
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23:46.58hyperChipmunkthat's not my code; talk to ck
23:47.15NeronixI know ,but I don't remember seeing the spam in bulkmail
23:47.27ThraeAre we still behind on a good alternative to MetaMap?
23:48.21hyperChipmunk....
23:48.36Neronixnvm
23:48.45NeronixI'm in retard mode right now because I need sleep >.>
23:48.47hyperChipmunkThrae: you're joking, i hope
23:48.50hyperChipmunklol
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23:49.28Thraeckknight: Got a problem for ya with AceLibrary.
23:49.45ThraehyperChipmunk: Why, because MetaMap is so beautifully coded in the first place? ;)
23:50.04hyperChipmunkyou'll never see any ace coder doign that kind of mishmash in one addon
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23:50.26ThraeWell, OK. How about an alternative to MetaMap's embedded WoWKB and/or MapNotes that doesn't suck?
23:51.03ThraeFrom what I've seen, CT_MapMod's DB isn't much better then MetaMap.
23:51.06Neronixckknight: Can we have a way to suppress the "X is now set to Y" message in a text option? And Can we make get optional?
23:52.06NeronixI'd rather be able to spam "Added pattern ^[example] to list" than "Add pattern is now set to ^[example]"
23:52.19AmadeoThrae: I like your idea :)
23:52.45Neronixand having a get is unsuitable for that kind of option, and using an empty function to work around it is kinda hackish
23:53.22ThraeI have been thinking of coding an alternative to MobInfo2 / WoWKB, but I'd need a MapNotes lib for putting notes on the map.
23:53.28cladhaireDoes get not accept nil values?
23:54.26Neronixcladhaire: Yes, but when your command's help is printed, it's like "Add pattern [None]: Add a pattern to the list"
23:54.37Neronixthe [None] part shouldn't be there
23:55.29cladhairehrm, k
23:56.59Mikmaag`: btw...
23:57.07maiaexternals question (I know, I'm asking lots of questions today): what's the command to properly set Ace2 externals via command line? the svnbook only shows how to get them, not how to set them. I assume something like svn propset svn:externals libs/AceAddon-2.0.lua http://svn.wowace.com/trunk/Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua ?
23:57.19Mikmaag`: put the ToT frame as PerfectRaid-layout and 100% scale.. it's pretty neat that way :D
23:57.30cladhairemaia: svn propedit svn:externals
23:57.41cladhairepropset has been sticky for me
23:57.51hyperChipmunkyea I don't propset
23:57.54maiasvn: Explicit target argument required
23:57.56hyperChipmunkpropedit makes me feel safe
23:57.58hyperChipmunk.
23:58.07hyperChipmunksvn propedit svn:externals .
23:58.22NeronixI just do my proediting with Tortoise for easiness and tidiness
23:58.23maiasvn: None of the environment variables SVN_EDITOR, VISUAL or EDITOR is set, and no 'editor-cmd' run-time configuration option was found
23:58.24ag`Mikma, what was it that made the xp bar stuck, you said?
23:58.45Mikmaag`: aye, PerfectRaid layout on player when xp-bar is showing will cause the bar to "drop dead"
23:58.47hyperChipmunkEDITOR=edit svn propedit svn:externals .
23:58.51maia(I'm using OSX, and svnX, the GUI client, doesnt support externals yet)
23:58.52ag`Mikma, ok
23:58.54hyperChipmunkor notepad.exe
23:58.55hyperChipmunkoh
23:59.12hyperChipmunkthen EDITOR=whatever ...
23:59.18cladhairemaia: EDITOR=vi
23:59.19Mikmaag`: and, put the xpbar toggleable in options!
23:59.25maiavi? you're kidding, right? :)
23:59.32ag`Mikma, it is
23:59.34cladhairedoes osx have nano installed?
23:59.35hyperChipmunkgvim if you're cool; something else if you're lame
23:59.40Mikmaag`: not on my version :P
23:59.44ag`cladhaire, not by default I think
23:59.45cladhairepico, nano, vi, emacs, dunno how to help =)

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