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00:05.00hasteaaw, there isn't a easy way to add options into another addons AceConsole?
00:05.01CIA-1103ag * r4954 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames - Added aura tooltips
00:05.03kergothis curse down?
00:05.18gnorlishno
00:05.26kergothhaste: well, look at how deucecommander gets to other addons aceoptions tables, then modify them
00:05.28ag`am I the only one FruityLoots is broken for?
00:05.50hastekergoth: doesn't it just for through the whole list?
00:06.26kergothhaste: yes, but you can get to the addon name
00:06.35kergoth.handler.name or so, its in the deucecommander code
00:06.39kergothso iterate, find the one you want, and modify or so
00:06.43kergoth(theoretical)
00:11.22ckknightback
00:13.02hasteI'll just hard code it for now
00:13.09kergothsomeone should do a version of atlasloot
00:13.15kergothwhich uses pt/mendy for the backend drop data
00:14.21hasteckknight: Is there a easier way of inserting chat commands into AceConsole then what kergoth suggested a couple of lines up?
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00:15.10ckknightoptionsTable.args.myModule = myTable
00:15.12ckknighttada.
00:15.19Tekkubkeep a local ref to the table before you register it?
00:15.37Neronixbasically, don't make it an anonytable
00:16.08NeronixAnd you don't need to reregister your slash command or dewdrop or both after you modify it
00:18.26CIA-1103phyber * r4955 10Fizzle/Core.lua:
00:18.26CIA-11Fizzle:
00:18.26CIA-11- Changed FontString to OVERLAY level, to make sure that it appears above the quality border.
00:19.32haste*pokes it*
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00:22.53snurremeh, all these new addon names, impossible to know wtf they're for :p
00:23.26ckknight*thumbs up*
00:23.33Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=9071775
00:23.35ag`imho - there should be a page with a table, where all addons are listed with a small description, maybe the one from the TOC file
00:24.21Tupladag
00:24.25Tupladcheck indy's thread
00:24.58ag`which subforum?
00:26.34SoltanisMikma : whats the thread in relation to?
00:27.52MikmaSoltanis: "funny"?
00:28.02mjcmaintankframes seem to be broken atm
00:28.08mjcora_maintankframes
00:28.21Soltanisi know it's funny , just wondered what started it
00:28.55Soltanisdon't get half the interesting threads us do , over on europe forums
00:29.19MikmaSoltanis: eu cm's aren't that active on forums
00:29.20CIA-1103ckknight * r4956 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - fixed /print
00:29.59Soltanisaye :-(
00:30.19Soltanisi mean right now we don't even have a working forum
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00:31.53Mikmanow this is one angry thread.. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-shaman&T=668661&P=1
00:32.22Soltanishmm whats he done now?
00:32.34Soltanisor is that sort of thing common?
00:33.51Mikmawell i think people hate him because of the shaman-"nerf" there was
00:36.23haste<PROTECTED>
00:36.25ckknightwell, I have to say, FuBarPlugin-2.0 is a lot cleaner than FuBarPlugin-1.2
00:36.29ckknightno evil hooking
00:36.44hasteto the already harder PvE world of horde
00:39.08Industrialeyonix i know that name
00:39.12Industrialdoes he lurk here?
00:40.05ckknightnah, he's a CM
00:40.06hastemeeep
00:40.11ckknightmeep.
00:40.16hastefuck this, I'll just hard code it
00:40.29hasteso I can finish up before the painkillers go away
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00:40.37hasteand I have to type with one arm again =\
00:41.20Mikmahaste: what's going on?
00:41.46Mikmayou've been saying about those painkillers for couple of days now, what's wrong?
00:41.56hasteMikma: I owned a muscle in my back, mostly connected to my right shoulder
00:42.06mjchaste: ora_maintankframes.lua:492: attempt to index field 'ptfmain' a nil value
00:42.12hastemjc: wrong author
00:42.19mjcah, soz
00:42.29Mikmahaste: aww crapman :(
00:42.42hasteMikma: I'm not able to use my arm without painkillers atm, and that does include sleeping
00:42.43Mikmas/crapman/crap man/
00:42.44mjcwho is icetrain lol, same irc name?
00:42.57hastepoke on the forums
00:43.00hasteor WoWI
00:43.14Mikmahaste: i can't imagine how that must feel, but just be sure to take it easy :P
00:43.24CIA-1103ckknight * r4957 10TabletLib/Tablet-2.0/Tablet-2.0.lua: Tablet - Dewdrop fix
00:43.32hasteIt's just a muscle that's overworked
00:43.44Mikmahaste: there's no point of breaking yourself more now
00:44.07hasteMikma: I think I mostly did that on Thuesday :p
00:44.21hasteanyway, compared to friday - it doesn't hurt much
00:44.24CIA-1103ckknight 07FuBarPlugin-2.0 * r4958 10FuBar/ (. FuBarPlugin-2.0/ FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua): FuBarPlugin-2.0 - initial commit.
00:44.41Soltanishaste : right you use your brain , ill type and you just speak using a mic with voice activation on so you don't have to move
00:44.54hasteSoltanis: haha :p
00:45.34Mikmamight be hard to code with mic
00:46.29hasteyes, and I will have to communicate in english.. where I don't know what half the symbols are named :p
00:47.49Mikma{}[]/\|"' ...
00:48.05Industrialthe curly.. thingy
00:48.08Industrialand then uh
00:48.13hasteI knoww hat slashes are named, and quotes!
00:48.14Industrialthe uh, diagonal one
00:48.16Industrialno
00:48.18Industrialthe other one
00:48.19Industrialyes
00:48.21Industrialuhm and then
00:48.22Industrial..
00:48.24Industrial:P
00:49.07Industrial() braces, [] brackets, {} curly brackets?
00:49.14ckknight() parentheses
00:49.17ckknight[] brackets
00:49.21hastesquare brackets?
00:49.22ckknight{} braces/curly brackets
00:49.32ckknight[] is brackets or square brackets
00:49.33Industrialo
00:49.35Industrialsee :p
00:50.02ckknight\ - backslash, / - slash, | - pipe
00:50.26hastethoe I also know
00:50.47hastebut I have no idea about ;:_~
00:50.56Mikmawhat about ! & =  ?
00:51.22Industrialexclamation mark, ampersand, equal sign
00:51.50Mikma> ?
00:51.59hastelarger and smaller then
00:52.25Mikmaokiedokie
00:52.32Mikmabot should have those in ;)
00:52.52CIA-1103thrae * r4959 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTipAnchor.lua): TinyTip: Fixed a LOT of bugs concerning the ExtraTooltip change.
00:53.08CIA-1103thrae * r4960 10TinyTipExtras/ (TinyTipExtras.lua TinyTipTargets.lua): TinyTipExtras: Fixed a LOT of bugs concerning the ExtraTooltip change.
00:53.32SoltanisShouldn't be a problem , you can just give nick names to all the symbols
00:53.52Soltanisso you have () tom , [] jack , {} peter , ect ect
00:54.22ckknighthehe... peter
00:54.33ckknightbtw, it's etc, not ect
00:54.54Soltanisthats just me typing too quickly :-)
00:55.00Soltanisbut yeah :-)
00:55.02Mikma~wtf btw
00:55.10ckknight~wtf etc
00:55.18Soltanishehe
00:55.20Mikmapurl: stupidass
00:55.24ckknightguess it's an abbreviation, not an acronym
00:55.32ckknightetcetera -> and so on
00:55.41ckknightbasically
00:55.44haste~wtf cba
00:55.49haste:(
00:55.55hastecba -> Can't be arsed
00:55.58Mikma~wtf newb
00:56.04Soltanis~wtf afaik
00:56.20Mikma~wtf rotfl
00:56.21Soltanis~wtf ttfn
00:56.30Mikmahah
00:56.33Mikmattfn!
00:56.39Neronix~wtf kek
00:56.46Mikma~wtf lol
00:56.53Mikma~wtf ace
00:56.55Neronixckknight: is FBP2.0 documented yet?
00:57.01ckknightno
00:57.04ckknightand I'll continue to change it
00:57.07ckknighte.g.
00:57.13ckknightUpdateTooltip -> OnUpdateTooltip
00:57.15ckknightand such
00:57.28ckknightalso, it's a mixin, not a subclass of AceAddon
00:57.32ckknight;-)
00:57.40NeronixSweet
00:57.40ckknightwhich just adds +10 pimp points
00:57.50Soltanisoh dear it's nearly time for me to get up :-( i had better goto sleep.
00:57.53ckknightClockFuClockFu = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("FuBarPlugin-2.0", "AceConsole-2.0", "AceDB-2.0")
00:57.58Thrae|AwayOnUpdateTooltip == The OnUpdate script for your Tooltip, or whenever the Tooltip's contents change?
00:58.00Soltanisbye all
00:58.12ckknightThrae|Away, whenever your Tooltip's contents change
00:58.27NeronixI'll switch DC to FBP2 as soon as you document it
00:58.46ckknightNeronix, right.
00:58.46ckknightI want to finish today
00:58.46Neronixhate having it on my minimap >.>
00:58.56IndustrialDC? FBP2?
00:59.03ckknightFBP2 = FuBarPlugin-2.0
00:59.05NeronixIndustrial: DC = DeuceCommander
00:59.09ckknightbasically, it should be supremely easy to add FuBar support.
00:59.11ckknightjust add the mixin
00:59.23Thrae|Awayckknight: I'd change it to "OnTooltipUpdate" instead of "OnUpdateTooltip" to avoid confusion, if you haven't set the API in stone
00:59.23ckknightand then you add the specific settings
00:59.32ckknightThrae|Away, I haven't yet.
00:59.32Industrialwhats deucecommander do? >_>
00:59.41ckknightI'm very much for changing the API
00:59.52NeronixIndustrial: Provides a dewdrop interface to aceconsole slash commands
01:00.00hasteI'm going to bed, hopefully I can finish the little dewdrop-1.0 -> dewdrop-2.0 change =\
01:00.00ckknightalso MenuSettings -> OnMenuSettings or something
01:00.17hastegn
01:00.18ckknightNeronix, I still don't get it.
01:00.27ckknightNeronix, isn't that already in Dewdrop-2.0?
01:00.44Thrae|Awayckknight: Does your tooltip comes from TabletLib, or is it a separate object managed by FubarPlugin?
01:00.54Thrae|AwayWell, psuedo-tooltip
01:00.56ckknightTablet-2.0
01:01.08Industrialk
01:01.08ckknightand it uses Dewdrop-2.0 for the menus
01:01.13ckknightno other required dependencies
01:01.16Neronixckknight: IF a mod doesn't already have a dewdrop interface, DC provides it itself
01:01.23ckknightNeronix, I see
01:01.28NeronixI'll need to code in the if part
01:01.29Thrae|AwayI noticed a lot of code for the creation of tooltips in FubarPlugin-1.2
01:01.39Thrae|AwaySo I guess that changed in FubarPlugin-2.0?
01:01.46Thrae|AwayPsuedo-tooltips, that is
01:01.48ckknightThrae|Away, no, it'll pretty much be the same
01:02.21Thrae|Awayckknight: It was either Fubar 1.2 or FubarPlugin-1.2 that I saw all the Tablet psuedo-tooltip code in
01:02.24IndustrialNeronix: doesnt dewdrop do that cause its a lib..
01:02.34Thrae|AwayIE, not in the Tablet lib itself
01:02.41NeronixDC lets dewdrop do the work
01:02.43ckknightThrae|Away, FuBarPlugin-1.0
01:02.45Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=415104&p=1&tmp=1#post415104
01:02.54Thrae|AwayAhhh, gotcha, that's probably where I saw it
01:02.56NeronixDC itself just creates the AceOptions table to house everything
01:03.13ckknightThrae|Away, FuBarTooltip evolved into Tablet
01:03.40Thrae|AwayNeronix: By the way, about DC's name...you do know that "Deuce" is American slang for a bowel movement, right?
01:03.45Thrae|Awayckknight: Gotcha.
01:03.52NeronixThrae|Away: O.o?
01:04.01ckknightThrae|Away, I didn't know that
01:04.06Thrae|AwayNeronix: Deuce, as in #2
01:04.07ckknightand I lived in America all my life
01:04.19ckknightDeuce is a playing card.
01:04.20Industrialnastyyyy :P
01:04.23ckknightit comes after Ace.
01:04.28NeronixI only used Deuce because Ace2Commander would have ckknight and Tem smiting m
01:04.33NeronixAnd that would sound lame
01:04.38phyberBowel Movement Commander.
01:04.43gnorlishcrap commander
01:04.45phybersounds like a PS3 launch title!
01:04.50NeronixAnd Deuce is the pet name for Ace2 that people have come up with :P
01:05.04ckknightthat was mostly Tek
01:05.32Thrae|AwayThe 2nd definition of "Deuce" in English is also "Bad Luck"
01:05.34ckknighthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuce
01:05.41Neronixanyways, the gist of it is this: The gist of it is this: theTable = { type = "group", args = {} }; for k,v in pairs(console.registry) do theTable.args = v end; dewdrop:Register(AFrame, "children", theTable)
01:06.10Neronixadd in all the checks and what have you and it's only 60 lines, including (lots of) comments and whitespace
01:06.22Thrae|AwayActually, the 2nd form of "Deuce" (there are two roots for the word)
01:06.23ckknightNeronix, alright
01:06.45Thrae|AwayThe 2nd form of "Deuce" is archaic
01:07.16ckknightalso, unlike FuBarPlugin-1.2, :RegisterForLoad() isn't needed at the end.
01:08.32ckknightit just knows, in the most Orwellian sense possible
01:08.52Thrae|AwayIs there an embeddable Minimap-button maker?
01:09.20hyperChipmunkwasn't someone using one for DeuceCommander?
01:09.32NeronixThrae|Away: MyMinimapButton
01:09.42NeronixIt's what I'm using until I can get my hands on FBP2
01:09.50Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4686
01:09.53ckknightThrae|Away, there will be in FuBarPlugin-2.0
01:09.55NeronixI hate minimap buttons as much as anyone else
01:09.59Thrae|AwayAh, cool.
01:10.12Thrae|AwayWell it makes sense that if you don't have FuBar, FuBarPlugin should make a Minimap button.
01:10.22ckknightright.
01:10.23NeronixIt does
01:10.31ckknightit does in 1.2, you know
01:11.50NeronixDoes DD2 have a registry where AO tables are put?
01:12.27ckknightprobably.
01:15.09ckknightwell, I got ClockFu 2.0 working
01:18.14NeronixCan you check if a table is the same as another without a metamethod?
01:18.40Thrae|AwayYou mean they have the same contents, or are the same instance?
01:18.41Neronixie, { foo = "foo!" } == { foo = "foo!" } --> true?
01:19.01ckknightno.
01:19.01hyperChipmunkno
01:19.06Thrae|AwayIf they're not the same instance, you'll need to iterate over their members.
01:19.25ckknightit could be done with AceOO
01:19.34ckknightif they're both instances and have an :Equals(other) method
01:20.00ckknightor what have you
01:20.01Neronixor foobox = { foo = "foo!" }; barbox = foobox; then foobox == barbox --> true?
01:20.31NeronixI just need a way to check whether an AceOptions table is both present in the AceConsole registry and the dewdrop registry
01:20.43ckknightyes, that's true.
01:22.00Thrae|AwayAceOO is smart enough to have two tables with the same contents be the same instance?
01:23.51kergothThrae|Away: it isnt aceoo. any class can define custom == operator
01:24.03kergoththat is, it isnt its smarts, it just gives yo ua way to define the metamethods
01:24.17Thrae|AwayYeah, but the only way I can think of would be to iterate over the members.
01:25.31ckknightpretty much.
01:25.37ckknightbasically, you can do
01:25.53ckknightfunction MyClass.prototype:Equals(other) return self.value == other.value end
01:27.02Thrae|AwayWait, how would that work to see if the contents of a table equaled a different table?
01:28.19ckknightfunction MyClass.prototype:Equals(other) for k,v in pairs(self) do if other[k] ~= v then return false end return true end
01:29.00Thrae|AwayAh, gotcha. I thought you were implying the first function you gave would do that.
01:29.17ckknightit was an example
01:30.25Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=414739&p=1&tmp=1#post414739
01:30.30Mikmaread and cry
01:30.36Mikmathe last reply is the best
01:34.25ckknighthehe.
01:34.36ckknightI should reply
01:34.40ckknightand talk about Dunbar's number
01:36.34MikmaDunbar's number?
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01:38.12ckknightaka. Monkeysphere
01:38.55ckknightbasically states that in survival-oriented situations, the most people you can care for is 150. In non-survival-oriented situations, it is much less
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01:39.44ckknightwtf
01:39.47ckknightforum's broken
01:39.48ckknightI can't log in
01:40.49Kyahx|afkhow the hell do people manage to make an interface that uses 125mg of memory...
01:41.10MikmaKyahx: dab + duf + crap
01:41.25Kyahxhttp://www.darksideprod.com/temporary/WoW/WoW-DualScreen03.jpg
01:41.27Kyahx133.4mb
01:41.30Mikmao yeah, titan
01:42.04ckknightCTRA
01:42.44KyahxoRA needs a decent Version Checking modual =/
01:42.58KyahxWe're still haveing MT issues, I think its becuase others aren't updated with whatever they use
01:43.12Kyahxbleh
01:43.21MikmaDAB, DUF, Titan, CTRA, SW Stats, DamageMeters, Itemrack, XXX Combat Lof
01:43.28Mikmalog*
01:44.31gnorlishi'm stay righ around 20mb
01:44.39ckknightwhat should I rename :MenuSettings()?
01:44.45ckknightit has to be :OnSomething()
01:44.52ckknightOnMenuRequest?
01:45.01KyahxWhy not just OnMenu?
01:45.19ckknightcause that's not really a verb
01:45.28Kyahxverb smerb
01:45.41Kyahx:P
01:45.42ckknightblurb
01:50.19Kyahxckknight: Any updates on FuBar-2.0?
01:50.21Kyahx=)
01:50.41ckknightKyahx, got OnMenuRequest to be an AceOptions table
01:50.45ckknight:-)
01:50.51Kyahxhehe
01:51.25ckknighton first using, it looks really icky
01:51.53ckknightI need to add an order thing to it or something
01:52.03ckknightor rethink how to do it
01:54.19ckknightand, the profile thing in dewdrop isn't right
01:54.48kergothckknight: mousing over profile while moving my char with wasd is annoying :P
01:54.55kergothdefaultwwwwwww :P
01:56.11ckknightthe profile thing should be a list of available ones, then an other thing, which is a text box
01:56.20ckknightbut only for the gui
01:56.21ckknightblah...
02:01.46Thrae|AwayOooo, LCDText Widget. I missed that one.
02:02.18kergothgar, cant find the bliz xp gain fading message in framexml
02:02.21kergothhrm
02:02.56Thrae|Awaykergoth: Mikord and I were trying to find it, we concluded it's not in XML or Lua.
02:03.15Thrae|AwayI'm not sure if Mikord found a CVar to disable it or not, he was looking for one.
02:03.30kergothwaw
02:03.38kergother, aww
02:03.43TupladKyahxhttp://www.darksideprod.com/temporary/WoW/WoW-DualScreen03.jpg
02:03.44Tupladlmao
02:03.46kergothi love the new xp display in msbt, but the duplicate is annoying
02:03.57Kyahx133mg!!
02:04.11Tuplad:\
02:04.14Tupladrich kid ?
02:04.20Tupladno, rich parents?
02:05.04Tupladmeh Im off, good night everyone, didnt watch the time >:|
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02:17.11ckknighthehe
02:17.24ckknightmy mom's comp got bitten by Microsoft WGA
02:18.37IndustrialWGA?
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02:20.59ckknightWindows Genuine Advantage(TM)
02:21.35ckknightit shows you the advantage to having a genuine Windows(TM) desktop by preventing piracy
02:23.18hyperChipmunkawesome!
02:24.09hyperChipmunkit warms my heart to know that my computer will stop me from voluntarily pirating movies and games
02:24.38ckknightno
02:24.38ckknightpirating Windows.
02:24.38ckknightnow she can't log in
02:26.00ckknighthaha
02:26.07ckknightserves her right for using Windows, I say
02:27.55hyperChipmunkpwndf
02:28.50ckknighton a side note, I'm downloading Ubuntu
02:29.06ckknightnot cause I have to, but because I found a lot of blank CDs
02:29.12Industriallol
02:29.30Industrialdo something useful with them
02:29.36Industrialmake frisbees
02:30.32ckknightthey're blank, thus useful.
02:30.55hyperChipmunkput aol on 'em
02:31.08ckknight...
02:31.08ckknightheinous
02:31.46hyperChipmunkserves 'em right for slackin' around bein' all blank
02:32.48ckknightit's not their fault
02:32.53ckknightthey were born that way!
02:33.00ckknightthey didn't _choose_ to be blank
02:34.34kergothi hate grinding timbermaw rep.  too damn many people killing the mobs
02:34.55TainNeed to convince people to group up since almost no one does it for exp anyway
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02:49.16mjcgeddon bomb targetting doesn't clear the skull target when the leader dies
02:50.13mjcand corkfu keeps wanting to rebuff me with mage armor
02:50.14mjc;P
02:54.02kergothTain: yea, cept everyone in the area atm is fucking alliance, and i'm horde :P
02:54.44hyperChipmunkwell that's your own fault
02:55.30mjcblink isn't workin either
02:55.33mjcon shaz
02:57.07Tem_what made you think that blink ever works?
02:57.46mjcTem: there's an option to warn on shazz's blink
02:57.49mjcin BW
02:58.22Temoh
02:58.30TemI thought you meant the mage ability
02:58.52mjcshazz is an arcanist :D
03:03.12Tekkub"FuBarPlugin-2.0 - initial commit."  That means release quality "go ahead and use it" right?
03:05.38ckknightin 1 hour
03:05.46ckknightI just wanted to save what I had
03:10.37ckknightkergoth, go Horde
03:18.14CIA-1103ckknight * r4961 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - :GetAceOptionsTable() -> :GetAceOptionsTable(target)
03:22.24CIA-1103ckknight 07FuBarPlugin-2.0 * r4962 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin-2.0/FuBarPlugin-2.0.lua: FuBarPlugin - more stuff
03:22.33ckknighttheoretically, you could use that
03:22.45ckknightnote: it's not documented ;-)
03:22.55ckknightbbl
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04:08.11Kaeltenhows it going guys?
04:08.17hyperChipmunkhey frood
04:09.08Kaeltenfrood?
04:09.13Kaeltenso is AceConsole using AceTab yet?
04:10.06hyperChipmunkno, I'm just kinda staring at it right now
04:10.46hyperChipmunkit's really...lots of words
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04:11.10Kaeltenwhats the purpose of the usage function?
04:11.21hyperChipmunkok
04:11.30hyperChipmunkthat gets passed the possible completions
04:11.53Kaeltenhuh?
04:11.57Kaeltenis it required or optional?
04:12.00hyperChipmunkoptional
04:13.03hyperChipmunkan example, bulkmail allows: about, autosend, defaultdest, profile, standby
04:13.23hyperChipmunkif i type a<tab>, by default AceTab would print:
04:13.26hyperChipmunkabout
04:13.28hyperChipmunkautosend
04:14.36hyperChipmunkbut, if you provide a 'usage' function, it will pass 'about' and 'autosend' to that function instead of printing them out, and will print the return from that
04:14.59Kaeltenah cool
04:15.07Kaeltenso it lets you print custom usage instructions basically
04:15.29hyperChipmunkso you can write a function that says, say, function(arg) if arg=='about' then return 'about - Print out addon info' end end
04:15.34hyperChipmunkprecisely
04:17.19Kaeltenwhat about the target frames? thats optional right?
04:17.28hyperChipmunkthat, too, is optional, yes
04:17.41hyperChipmunkif not set, it defaults to ChatEditFrame
04:17.50Kaeltencool
04:18.16hyperChipmunker, ChatFrameEditbox, whatever it's called
04:18.25hyperChipmunkand conveniently, it also takes care of VisorEditBox
04:18.37hyperChipmunkso if you use that, it doens't need to be defined explicitly like AceTab does
04:20.30hyperChipmunker
04:20.32hyperChipmunklike Tab does
04:22.50Kaeltenright
04:24.05hyperChipmunkonce I prove that it can work in its current form by writing AceConsole completion with it, I'll write some wiki pages explaining it and I'll post all of my examples; ckknight made me take out the file that I had my examples cuz I had it in the lib directory
04:24.27hyperChipmunki'll stick them in my htdocs directory so you can read 'em if you want to see
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04:25.26hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/AceTabExamples.lua
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04:26.29hyperChipmunkI don't have any there using usage yet, but it worked with some dummy tests; AceConsole will use it, for certain, though
04:27.33hyperChipmunkthis is the first time I've ever written a library for anything, so I'm doin' my best.  Hopefully I'll get it finished in time for everybody's satisfaction
04:33.48Kaeltenk, I got to get some sleep
04:33.52Kaeltengnight
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04:38.37kergothwoot, just leveled an alt to 60, that makes my second 60 tod ate
04:40.51hyperChipmunkgratz
05:20.50mjcrag deosnt reset on defeat
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07:28.37vhaarr*fontstrings
07:34.05Wobinhttp://www.jigsawdoku.com/
07:40.54Icerothdoes anyone know when the event MIRROR_TIMER_PAUSE fires?
07:41.44Wobinduring one of the countdowns?
07:41.53Wobinlike when you stop being underwater maybe?
07:41.57Icerothnope
07:42.13Wobincan't think of any situation offhand then
07:42.35Icerothsame here :-/
07:42.43Icerothkinda hard to test it if i can't find a way to fire it =)
07:44.36UrulokeIceroth: had the same problem when I did my mirrortimer... couldn't find any situation when it fires
07:44.52Icerothhow did you solve it?
07:45.00UrulokeI mean... it's either counting or it's not valid
07:45.49UrulokeI just looped through the timers and put pause = (arg1 > 0 and 1 or nil)
07:46.24Icerothhmm... could it possibly pause if you leave world or something like that?
07:46.38Urulokehmm... maybe
07:46.48Icerothhunter accepts summon when feigning?
07:47.09Urulokewouldn't it just stop feign then though?
07:47.23Icerothno clue, haven't played hunter ever :)
07:47.39Urulokeheh
07:47.52UrulokeI got a hunter but no feign death on her yet
07:48.13Icerothor hmm.. being underwater and getting summoned? as the breath bar doesn't fill instantly
07:48.58Urulokeyeah..
07:49.43Icerothand wowwiki documentation is off again, it speaks of some duration when blizz code clearly uses the argument as a boolean
07:50.30Urulokeyeah
07:50.50Urulokeif you look at the blizz code for the mirrortimer you'll see that they do use it as such
07:51.11Urulokesimilarly to what I showed above
07:51.16Icerothyep
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08:08.58Urulokehmm, the SVN seem incredibly slow today
08:09.11Urulokeor my svn client has crashed
08:09.42Elkanohow is AceHud2 going? worth replacing AceHud with it?
08:09.56Elkanoand I still have no clue why my druid bar doesn't show up :/
08:10.07Icerotharchud?
08:10.18Urulokenot yet
08:10.37Urulokewell, unless you mind not being able to configure anything ;)
08:13.17Elkanois it not configurable or simply no GUI for doing so? (eg do it via SVs)
08:16.31Urulokeno GUI and no chat commands
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08:19.52UrulokeI want AceGUI2 for the GUI ;)
08:20.14Icerothany ideas what's that gonna be like?
08:20.25Urulokenope
08:20.32Icerothif dewdrop can eat aceCommandTable (or smthing), that's kinda cool
08:21.06Urulokehmm, Dewdrop uses a standalone menu, or something no?
08:21.34Icerothtry tinytip, that has some nice dewdrop usage
08:22.16Urulokehmm
08:22.36Urulokemight use that for configuration instead of a difficult to manage frame
08:23.15Elkanowasn't DeducCommander made in order to allow exactly that?
08:23.34Urulokewhat?
08:23.36vhaarrDeuceCommander just enumerates all the AceConsole (command line) options and puts them into a dewdrop.
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08:24.43vhaarrso as long as your addon properly uses AceConsole for command line options, if the user has DeuceCommander he will already have a dewdrop menu with your addons settings in it.
08:25.25Urulokewee, DruidMana ring active in 2.0
08:26.11Urulokewell, as long as I can't use 2 levels deep passing groups I can't use AceConsole for configuration
08:26.26vhaarrwhat's a "passing group"?
08:27.11Urulokea group that takes a func/get/set methods and recieves the key of the next level command
08:27.49vhaarrso your options are not static?
08:28.29Urulokemy module options are defined in the modules
08:29.06vhaarrah
08:30.13Urulokeso each module need to add their own options to the AceOptions table.. but in order to identify which module is which I need a way to pass say /archud rings <ring> <command>
08:30.26Urulokeso, a 2 levels deep passing group
08:30.31vhaarrindeed
08:30.57Urulokewhich currently isn't supported in AceConsole
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08:33.21Urulokeooh, they got a sound when you get a combo point now
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08:38.26vhaarrMG2-style oRA_MainTankFrames would be sweet.
08:39.53Soltanisi like the dire style at the moment :-)
08:39.55Sairenhi
08:40.00SoltanisHello
08:40.06vhaarrmorning
08:42.50Industrialmorning
08:45.36Urulokewhat's happened with the SVN today? It's slower than ever...
08:46.34Uruloketransferring at... 25 Bytes/s
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08:59.29Elkanook, svn is dieing today :/
08:59.36Kirov_?
09:00.04Elkanowell, try to do sth with it :/
09:03.17Elkanook, it seems like it crashed ^^
09:05.25Urulokewhat have you done, Elk!
09:05.27Elkanoit's back to life and working fine again :)
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09:05.36Urulokeyay
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09:07.01Urulokethere's one thing I've wondered... why is the SVN always so slow in general?
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09:31.20vhaarrhm, |UpdateName|
09:32.41vhaarrhm, added some code to |UpdateName|, but it seems that it's not called so often, because this didn't work:
09:32.43vhaarrif string.find(unit, "party") or unit == "player" then
09:32.45vhaarr<PROTECTED>
09:32.46vhaarr<PROTECTED>
09:32.48vhaarr<PROTECTED>
09:32.49vhaarrend
09:33.17vhaarr(|or unit == "player"| just there for testing)
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09:37.39ckknighthey all
09:37.41Sairenhi
09:39.39Sairenvhaarr: to update it more often, add a self:UpdateName("partyXtarget") call in the OnUpdate func
09:41.24vhaarrSairen: ah, nice, that worked, but I have to add self:UpdateName(...) for player and party1-4, oh well.
09:42.23vhaarrhm
09:43.39vhaarrcool, it concatenates the name pretty early, but that doesn't really matter.
09:47.03vhaarrKemayo: I just noticed that ALS displays "1 day ago" even if they just logged out
09:49.59wereHamstersedatedChipmunk, wake up,  you've had enough sleep..
09:52.10ckknightfun trivia time: what did Einstein say the most powerful force in the universe was?
09:52.32ckknightfirst one to get it deserves a cookie
09:52.37ckknightand no cheating
09:53.00Neronixstupidity?
09:53.01Icerothstupidity of the mankind?
09:53.09Icerothheh
09:53.16ckknightno
09:53.57Neronixthat strong force that binds subtomic particles together?
09:54.38ckknightnah
09:54.43NeronixI gave up and googled
09:54.44ckknightyou guys fail
09:54.47ckknightyou did?
09:54.48NeronixHave to agree with him
09:54.53ckknightit's compound interest
09:58.10Wobins/@/2/
09:58.24WobinQuite a lot of fun =)
09:58.39CIA-1103chinkuwaila * r4964 10BabbleLib/Boss/BabbleLib-Boss.lua: BigWigs (BabbleLib-Boss): updated deDE localization
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10:05.26ag`Neronix: Did you fix Fruityloots? I am getting AceLibrary is nil errors...
10:07.27Industrialwhats fruityloots?
10:12.21Neronixag`: I'm not Neriak
10:12.34NeronixIndustrial: New name for AceLoot
10:13.07ag`Sorry Neronix. I couldn't remember the authors name and yours looked similar :-)
10:15.08Neronixlol :P
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10:17.16vhaarrKemayo: I updated my local ALS to show a more detailed report of last online
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10:18.09NeronixSomeone's been clocking the tubes in ckknight's internet again
10:18.25Neronixs/clock/block/
10:18.31Neronix:P
10:18.55vhaarrKemayo: http://pastebin.ca/89500
10:19.04Urulokeclocking the tubes? interesting ;)
10:19.06Neronixhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iMDRVzMfEM for those who didn't get that
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10:19.11vhaarrKemayo: not sure if it's bugfree but it works here for now :P
10:19.26Kebinusanwow this is kinda hot
10:19.39Kebinusanhave any of you played around with this thing called RDX
10:19.43ckknight_see, you got these tubes...
10:20.00ckknight_and if there's too much in the tubes
10:20.08ckknight_then other stuff gets stuck in the tubes
10:20.36Kebinusanhahah
10:21.01ckknight_and I want the stuff that I'm working on to go through the tubes faster
10:21.07NeronixPerhaps a little fiber optic cable might be the answer?
10:21.11Kebinusanhttp://files.filefront.com/RDXzip/;5259775;;/fileinfo.html
10:22.58vhaarrhaha "you could masturbate at the roulette table, just keep giving them money"
10:26.17ckknight_hehe
10:29.07vhaarrKemayo: I just e-mailed you a diff of my changes to the latest SVN revision.
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10:29.17Solehi
10:30.40Soleammo you there?
10:30.53Soleor anyone? :(
10:30.59vhaarryes
10:31.03Shyvaya
10:31.35Solehave either of you used CandyBar?
10:33.13ShyvaNot really, I'm currently converting modules for bw2, which uses CandyBar tho :p
10:33.40Soleah
10:33.53Solewell Im trying to convert Soap from using Timex to candybar
10:34.01Soleand PaintChips is being a pain
10:34.27Solekeep getting the following error when I try to load CandyBar and PaintChips
10:34.59SoleAceLibrary: Bad argument #3 to 'nil' (nil expected, got nil)
10:35.31Solewhen i remove PaintChips all I get is a message from candybar saying it needs paintchips so Its def candybar
10:35.35Soleerr paintchips
10:35.39Shyvao.0
10:35.44Soleyar
10:35.49Solei was like wtf
10:36.02Soleif it expected nil and it got nil then wth is the problem o.0
10:36.55Soleis bw2 up on the SVN?
10:36.57Solecouldnt find it
10:37.04SoleIll see if theres something different in there
10:37.11Shyvait is, it's a branch
10:37.15Soleahh
10:37.46Solei wanna get CandyBar working, that gradient stuff looks nifty
10:39.41vhaarrhm, how can I get string.gsub("hey", ...) to also match "Hey" and "HEY"?
10:40.11Solehmm
10:40.40Solerun 3 seperate string.gsub  I guess
10:40.59Urulokestring.gsub("hey|Hey|HEY",...) or somesuch... use patterns
10:41.09Soleor that :P
10:43.25Solelol does BigWigs use about 80% of all ace libraries or what?
10:43.51vhaarrhm
10:44.08NeronixSole: Yep
10:44.14UrulokeArcHUD uses hmm... all of them I think
10:44.36SoleO_O
10:45.58vhaarrhm, I really just needed "Hey", so "[Hh]ey" works
10:50.23Soledammit
10:50.53SolePaintChips doesnt wanna work
10:50.56Solefor me :(
10:52.09Soledid bw2 have the same error?  AceLibrary: Bad argument #3 'nil' (nil expected, got nil)
10:52.41ShyvaNo
10:52.44SoleO_O
10:52.45ShyvaBW2 works fine here
10:53.19Solethen wth
10:53.33Soleits using the latest revision of Ace2
10:58.57vhaarrSairen: it seems the latest MG2 don't respect the settings to get the right-click menu up?
10:59.17vhaarrit doesn't work here, at least.
10:59.29Sairenyou mean my version?
11:00.57SairenI had the problem too with the right click menu, but uhm... it's working now ^^
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11:04.08vhaarr:P
11:05.06Tupladhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4992-Scholomance_UI.html that guy has a chuck norris filter LOL!
11:05.08vhaarrI guess /script LeaveParty(); works :P
11:05.27Solecan someone please get the latest EyeCandy and test it
11:05.47Solemaybe the one the svn is broked
11:05.57NeronixTuplad: And for good reason
11:08.20TupladNeronix: orly?
11:13.40Tupladhttp://home.c2i.net/blili/ZoinkFuBarError.jpg - this guy tells me that Discord is so cool and that people make the best UIs, check his UI lol.
11:14.26Icerothcool colours
11:14.31Sairenomg
11:14.55Tupladhm >:)
11:15.04Tupladhe removed the memory from his screenie
11:18.44Soltanisthink ill just stick with my boring 3 sets of buttons ui
11:20.29Tupladyea ^^_^^
11:23.25CIA-1103shyva 07Ace2 * r4965 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
11:23.25CIA-11BigWigs (Ace2 Branch):
11:23.25CIA-11- Added some missing locals to Core.lua
11:23.25CIA-11- Added Flamegor.lua and Nefarian.lua
11:23.25CIA-11- Fixed errors in Huhuran.lua
11:23.29mjc205 FR yay.
11:27.02Tuplado_O
11:27.07Tuplad37 FR :D
11:30.08Neronix0 :(
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11:32.34haste217 FR if I don't respec
11:32.40haste247 FR if I respec :p
11:32.54hastemy shaman can't wield maces anymore :(
11:34.13ShyvaI whish my priest could wield Lok'Amir and the C'Thun mace :X
11:34.42hasteIn the time we have pumped Nef, we have only gotten one Lok'Amir
11:35.07hasteand we killed him: 2005-11-08
11:35.20Shyvawe've got 3 now, 2 went to shadow priests, and now I got one too (since last friday), first dicp / holy priest to get get
11:35.33Shyvaand we killed him first in march I think
11:35.40hasteOur Teslacow got it ;)
11:35.46Shyvalol
11:35.58hasteWe have gotten four or five askandhi's tho'
11:36.11hasteWe've started to give them to hunters and alts
11:36.30Shyvawe've got 3 staffs of the shadowflame, 3 maces, 2 Ashkandis, who both left the guild because they went pvping with it, sucker, never trust melee :X
11:36.41Shyvain like 4 months time :)
11:36.43steinohaste: two!
11:36.46haste:<
11:36.49hastesteino: oh rly?
11:36.51steinoyes
11:36.56hasteWho got that one?
11:36.58steinoDark
11:37.09hastehehe
11:37.30steinoBut we still havent seen the bonreavers edge drop :p
11:37.57Shyvawe got 2 or 3 I think
11:38.28Shyvaanyways, melee sucks, they get a good weapon, and then leave to pvp -_-
11:38.51hasteand Ragnaros died: 2005-07-31
11:38.55hasteShyva: no one has in our guild
11:38.56snurremy new guild has gotten 2 staff of the shadowflame, 2 lok'amir and 1 ashkandi on the 5 neffy kills we've done ;)
11:39.06Shyvao.0
11:39.33hasteI bet you made it drop!
11:39.38Shyvasounds like a new guild on our server, they formed a week ago, and are now at C'Thun o.0
11:39.55ShyvaAnd are lucky with every boss
11:40.03snurretwo DFTs, three rejuvenating gems, one CTS, two maladath, two styleens and one elemntium reinforced bulwark ;)
11:40.10snurreweve been extremely lucky tbh
11:40.15hastesnurre: We've gotten three gems so far :<
11:40.27hasteand one bulwark
11:40.33Shyvawe got 5 bulwarks I think
11:40.47Shyva3 maladaths
11:40.55Shyva5 or 6 gems
11:40.59snurrethis is in 5 weeks tho ;)
11:41.13Shyvawhat I just said is in half a year o.0
11:41.18steinohaste: 4 gems!
11:41.28hastestop dropping when I'm casual!
11:41.35Urulokeuh... I just created a menu with Dewdrop... however with my sliders as soon as you move your cursor away from the slider it jumps back to whatever value it had from the start. why? ;)
11:41.37steinoerm
11:41.43steino8 gems
11:41.45steinoactually :p
11:41.49hasteerrrr
11:41.52Shyvasteino and haste, are you in the same guild?
11:41.52WobinUruloke: Have you got a return to your function for the slider?
11:41.55hasteShyva: yes
11:41.56steinoShyva: yes
11:41.59Shyvacool =)
11:42.10Shyvawhipe club guy was it right haste?
11:42.19hasteRefusion :p
11:42.24UrulokeWobin: I need to return the value or a true?
11:42.36Wobinthe value
11:42.42Wobinas a number between 0 and 1
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11:42.49ShyvaOh ;p I thought you were with the Whipe Club guy in a guild, or you only knew him?
11:42.59hastedon't think so :<
11:43.00Grumpeyelo/Morning ./
11:43.01steinoThat was some other guy
11:43.02ShyvaHmm
11:43.18UrulokeWobin: but my sliders are between say -50 to 200
11:43.29WobinUruloke: You'll have to convert it =)
11:43.35Urulokemeh
11:43.41ckknight_or set a min/max
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11:43.46ShyvaMeh, I hope we'll finally reach C'Thun this week -_-
11:43.48UrulokeI have a min/max
11:44.15ShyvaAQ40 is such a sucky instance
11:44.21hasteyou still have to convert the 0-1 into the correct value
11:44.44Urulokethe value the function gets is the actual value between -50 to 200
11:44.47hasteAQ40 was nice at start, untill you had to do the 20min corpse run without a mount due to everyone being stuck in combat
11:44.52UrulokeI checked that with a debug print
11:59.50Wobinhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/eagleseye_rats/cats/July15082.jpg
12:00.18GrumpeyDamn ./ oneview doesn't like servers with two words in the name
12:00.50Wobinwouldn't that be a problem with Ace2? =\
12:01.33GrumpeyNot really sure .. I'm still trying to learn most of this stuff ..
12:11.26Sairenhas anyone got an example of how to create a multiline textedit dynamically?
12:12.48Urulokeeven with a return value it STILL jumps back to the original value
12:20.45Urulokejust looked at TinyTip's Dewdrop menu and the SetScale function that is called on the slider there doesn't return any value, yet it sets it properly and doesn't jump back
12:25.36Grumpey<PROTECTED>
12:28.39Urulokebah...
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12:38.36Mikmaag`: well aura tooltips don't work likethey should
12:38.47ag`probably not
12:39.25Mikmai can only see tooltips for buffs i can handle myself
12:39.53Mikmaor atleast it looks like it
12:40.01Mikmasince i don't get any travelform tooltip
12:41.49Mikmaag`: and, the debuffs still don't work :)
12:43.22ag`Mikma: what isn't working?
12:43.58ag`nm I found out what was wrong
12:45.01Urulokehmm, it appears nothing in my Dewdrop menu changes although the functions behind runs properly and changes the actual DB values. the menu itself though seems as though it is static
12:45.59CIA-1103ag * r4967 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_FrameTemplate.xml: ag_UnitFrames - Fixed a wrong texture patch causing debuffs not to show properly
12:46.08Mikma:)
12:46.15ag`s/patch/path
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12:47.16Urulokeanyone wanna take a look at the code and see if they find any obvious errors with my Dewdrop?
12:47.46ag`maybe you have to run something to update the menu? Dunno, haven't tried using dewdrop yet
12:48.09Urulokedoesn't seem like it... TinyTip doesn't
12:49.26Grumpeybleh .. that wasn't it ./
12:49.48ag`tried isolating the problem to a small example to see if it still happens?
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12:52.37Mikmaloool
12:53.37Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/elf.jpg
12:54.04ag`yep
12:56.20SoltanisMikma : swamp of sorrows , cave near the spiders that drop specks of dream dust for that quest
12:56.28Mikmaaye :)
12:56.35Mikmanever seen that elf before
12:58.28ag`TinyTip crashes me wow.
12:59.38Mikmamy wow crashes just by typing /tiny and pressing tab
12:59.48Mikmabut when i write the complete word it works ok
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13:01.59CIA-1103lordrhys * r4968 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/Readme.txt:
13:02.45Grumpey.. Think there was an update to aceconsole yesturday
13:05.45ag`_I got tinytip working now
13:05.47ag`_it's nice
13:06.19Urulokeokay, I got a very small example Dewdrop which still doesn't behave
13:06.58ag`if you write /tinytip wow dies
13:07.10Mikmaag`: yeah try typing /tiny and press tab
13:07.36Urulokedoesn't die for me
13:07.51UrulokeI can through chat commands just fine
13:07.56Tekkubdoes the tabcomplete apply to the actual slash command or just the args?  I thought it was only the args
13:07.57Urulokecan tab*
13:08.06Urulokeboth I think
13:08.42Mikmait will only complete the slashcommand, not args
13:08.58Mikmaif you try to complete args it will erase them and change the slash
13:09.08CIA-1103thrae * r4969 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.lua: TinyTipOptions: Fixed Unit Anchoring options.
13:09.40ag`what about tt killing wow Thrae :-)
13:09.49Thrae|Away"Killing WoW" ?
13:10.11ag`TinytipExtras is a 60 second load on warmup
13:10.12MikmaThrae|Away: when I type /tin and press tab my wow freezes
13:10.37TekkubI have a feeling we're gonna need a FAQ about embedlibs soon...
13:11.04Thrae|AwayMikma: I don't have tab completion?
13:11.04Tekkubcause mods that have embeds can be kinda big in their warmup stats
13:11.29Tekkuband we're gonna have some people that want to do the "old way" of actually managing dependancies
13:11.50ag`Thrae|Away: tinytipextras or tinytipoptions causes a lockup when they're loaded, tinytipextras is listed as 60seconds in my warmup
13:11.57TekkubI personally am prolly gonna check some stuff out without externals since I always have the libs in as standalone
13:12.03Thrae|Awayag`: Do you have a Mac?
13:12.28MikmaThrae|Away: everyone has it afaik
13:12.30ag`Thrae|Away: yes, but this on my gaming pc
13:12.58Thrae|Awayag`: Weird. Have you tried with all other addons disabled?
13:13.11ag`Thrae|Away: not yet
13:13.15ag`I will
13:13.29ag`but disabling them makes the problem go away
13:13.46ag`and warmup says it is tinytipextras
13:14.15Thrae|AwayTinyTipExtras is LoadedOnDemand, another addon may be interfering with that
13:15.06ag`when I do "/tinytip" tinytipoptions is loaded
13:15.12ag`which causes a lockup too
13:15.39ag`after about 60 seconds with wow not responding the dewdrop menu appears
13:15.41Thrae|AwayYeah, sounds like one of your addons is causing a hooking LoadAddon or something.
13:15.51Thrae|Aways/is causing/is/
13:16.10ag`I will look into it, but I am not really using that many addons
13:16.21Tupladisnt gatherer kinda useless?
13:16.28Urulokeno?
13:16.36Thrae|AwayI don't have that problem when running about 60 different addons even on my laptop, which can barely run WoW
13:16.37Tupladwhat's the use of it ?
13:17.01Urulokeshows location of all the gathering veins/herbs/treasures you've found
13:17.06Thrae|AwayTuplad: Knowing where they usually spawn so you can run through a zone and gather them quickly
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13:21.16Urulokeanyone know Dewdrop take a look at this little bit: http://ace.pastebin.ca/89552 that is the example menu I did and which is not updating checked status and keeps jumping back to the startvalue for the slider
13:21.38Thrae|Awayag`: Just uploaded a profiling version of TinyTipOptions for you, it'll tell you how long it takes to initialize
13:21.49ag`ok
13:22.05ag`just doing UBRS, I will do more detailed tests for you when I get out
13:22.15ag`Mika seems to have the same problem
13:22.16Thrae|Awayag`: If it says something like "0 time" (like me on my laptop), then you know something's screwy with LoadAddon
13:22.34ag`0 time?
13:22.58ag`what was the mac problem you were mentioning?
13:23.56CIA-1103thrae * r4970 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.lua: TinyTipOptions: Will temporarily tell you how long the function takes to initialize.
13:24.09CIA-1103handdol * r4971 10BabbleLib/Boss/BabbleLib-Boss.lua:
13:24.09CIA-11BigWigs
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13:24.44Neronix20$ that he's messes up :P
13:24.56Neronixs/sses/ssed/
13:24.57Thrae|AwayCIA-11 is slow today
13:25.13Thrae|Awayag`: No, but I don't have a Mac, so I can't test the addon on it
13:25.21CIA-1103moonwolf * r4973 10Counterder/Counterder.lua: Counterder: Redid the logic for the use count.
13:25.25CIA-1103thrae * r4974 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.lua: TinyTipOptions: Fixed bug with new profiling, and made it precision 2.
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13:28.34CIA-11ItemBonusesFu: Initial commit
13:28.34CIA-11- updated for new bonuses in BonusScanner
13:28.37MikmaThrae|Away: but, you do have 2 users here with mac's which will be happy to test
13:30.15CIA-1103moonwolf * r4976 10Counterder/Counterder.lua: Counterder: Added colours, blue for a spell based count, green for an inventory based count, Items till have their white colour.
13:31.27Kaeltenhows it going guys
13:31.35KaeltenMoonWolf: whats counterder?
13:31.36MikmaKaelten: crashing wow's
13:31.44MikmaKaelten: it's ABInfo replacement
13:31.51MoonWolfIt the count part of abinfo
13:31.58Urulokeenabling the Extras bit with TinyTip to show other addon's info causes errors in Stubby (Auctioneer)
13:31.59MoonWolfwith a reagent counter built in it.
13:32.24Kaeltenheh, I've discovered that OneView has serious issues with server names that that have a space in them :s
13:32.29Mikmaoh yeah hehe i do get these weird messages in my chat at startup
13:32.53ag`btw Thrae|Away thanks for adding interface tooltips, now it's the best tooltip addon out there
13:33.00Mikma[AceConsole-2.0]: "OnTabPressed" already has active hook from this source.
13:33.20Mikma[AceConsole-2.0]: "ChatEdit_OnLoad" already has an active hook from this source.
13:33.24GrumpeyIt's not happy
13:33.37ag`I have those two errors too Mikma, what causes them?
13:33.56Mikmaag`: i have no idea
13:33.58Grumpey<PROTECTED>
13:34.07UrulokeI think so
13:34.34Thrae|Awayag`: Interface tooltips? You mean the Extra Tooltip?
13:34.35ag`Mikma: it must be an addon we're both using
13:34.45Mikmaag`: ag_UnitFrames? :)
13:35.07Grumpey? are all your Ace2.0 libraries the same revision ?
13:35.10ag`Thrae|Away: for spell buttons, etc
13:35.19ag`Mikma: I am not hooking the chatframe
13:35.32Kaeltena bunch of libs had updates yesterday
13:36.20Thrae|Awayag`: ? The only thing I change about those is the anchoring
13:36.35Mikmaag`: http://wow.reaktio.net/addons.txt
13:37.11ag`Thrae|Away: I remember them not anchorable
13:37.25ag`Mikma: I will look at it when I get out of UBRS :<
13:37.30UrulokeMikma: you still use Catalyst?
13:37.52ag`blizzard added catalyst thingy right?
13:37.59Urulokeuh huh
13:38.00Tekkubno
13:38.06MikmaUruloke: of course i am :)
13:38.07Tekkubblizzard fixed the bug
13:38.10Mikmait reduces my loadingtimes still
13:38.27ag`by how much?
13:38.42Mikma50% or so when instancing
13:39.08Mikmai usually have to wait 2-5 seconds for others to zone
13:39.23Urulokeso does about 5-10 seconds then?
13:42.33CIA-1103handdol * r4977 10BigWigs/ZG/Thekal.lua:
13:42.33CIA-11BigWigs
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13:42.40Mikmawell only thing i can say is try it yourself :)
13:42.41CIA-1103kaelten * r4978 10OneView/OneView.lua: OneView - Fixed issues with servers that have more than one name.
13:42.46Mikmayou'll see that you zone faster than others
13:42.49Kaeltenwow that was slow
13:47.46Thrae|AwayI thought Catalyst wasn't necessary anymore? My zone time is usually ~2 seconds
13:49.01Tupladit has a use they say
13:49.46GrumpeyThanks Kaelten ./ works now
13:50.09KaeltenGrumpey: np
13:54.33ElkanoThrae|Away, there seems to be a bug in TT :/
13:54.44Thrae|AwayElkano: Yes?
13:54.53Elkanosometimes I have to hover over buttons twice in order to have the tooltip shown
13:55.07Thrae|AwayElkano: With the Extra Tooltip enabled, right?
13:55.08Elkanoand tooltips for world objects seem to not always show
13:55.12Elkanoyes
13:55.26Thrae|AwayYeah, I fixed that in my version.
13:55.36Elkanogood :)
13:56.09Elkanoand I was somehow able to unachor the tootlips health bar by turning the extra tooltip on and off
13:56.41Thrae|AwayYep, fixed that too.
13:59.13Sarozhttp://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-en&t=50205&p=1 anyone?
13:59.46Mikmaag`: do you use either witchhunt or clique?
14:00.26Thrae|AwayI use WitchHunt myself, so that can't be it, as I have no problems.
14:00.34ag`not yet, used to use my own spellalert
14:00.38ag`but it is broken now
14:00.44ag`I have plans about fixing it
14:00.45Mikmaag`: well clique?
14:00.50ag`not yet
14:00.55ag`I have plans about testing it out
14:01.00Mikmammkay
14:01.15Mikmawell i only got 3 addons using AceConsole, Clique, Witchhunt, ag_UnitFrames
14:01.23ag`Just because I just castparty *cough* but I need the thing where it casts renew if the target is only missing x hp
14:01.33ag`clique doesn't have that
14:01.45Mikmaag`: error!
14:02.01Thrae|AwayI wouldn't like that, I'd rather cast Regeneration / Renew myself
14:02.11Mikmaag`: ag_UnitClass.lua:428: attempt to index local 'raidColor' (a number value) ... warrior joined our party
14:02.29ag`I know that error :) just not why the fuck it happens
14:02.33Thrae|AwayI use AceHeal myself
14:02.40ag`Thrae|Away: I know many would feel that way but I am used to it :P
14:02.42Mikmaoh yeah i took a screenshot
14:02.45Mikmainterestinh issue
14:03.35ag`I have a problem where I keep getting the BG/instance zoning sound at random times when I am in an instance
14:03.36Mikmaag`: http://wow.reaktio.net/aguf/aguf1.jpg
14:03.44ag`that sound pisses me off
14:04.05Thrae|AwayWhat's ag unit frames called on SVN?
14:04.12Mikmaag_UnitFrames
14:04.13ag`ag_unitframes
14:04.56ag`anyway, for the Ace people who thought MG2 was horrible crap.. MG2 is horrible crap code, and ag_unitframes is nothing like that.
14:04.58Thrae|AwayOdd, it's not being shown in trunk
14:05.01Mikmaag`: nice issue huih? ;)
14:05.39Mikmaag`: you have an issue of displaying partyframes after /rl
14:05.45Mikmamy partymember2 is missing
14:05.47ag`<PROTECTED>
14:06.10Mikmayes, /rl = /console reloadui
14:06.15Thrae|AwayAh wait there it is, it sorts uppercase then lowercase
14:06.16ag`oh
14:06.36ag`o.o
14:06.46ag`Thrae|Away: it is there when I check out
14:07.52Mikmaag`: and !!!111 my targetframe + tot is missing too
14:08.05Mikmareally freaking annoying to /rl many times to get them to show
14:08.23ag`Mikma: aUF:Reset()
14:08.39Mikmawhat's wrong with it?
14:09.13Thrae|Awayag`: Found your problem with warrior colors
14:09.26ag`oh, nice
14:09.30Thrae|Awayfunction aUF:GetRaidColors(class)
14:09.30ag`pastebin!
14:09.30Thrae|Awayif class then
14:09.30Thrae|Awayreturn RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class], RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class], RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class]
14:09.33Thrae|Awayelse
14:09.36Thrae|Awayreturn 1,1,1
14:09.38Thrae|Awayend
14:09.57Thrae|AwayYou need to do RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class].r, RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class].g, RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class].b
14:10.06Thrae|AwayOtherwise you're returning a table each time
14:10.13ag`strangely it works for other classes
14:10.20ag`or at some times
14:10.29Thrae|AwayWell you're converting it to HEX somewhere, right?
14:10.39ag`yes
14:11.00Thrae|AwaySo that means the table pointer is valid to be converted to HEX, it's very possible
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14:12.20ag`whatever the name of the blizz color table is
14:12.30ag`what if class was "bleh"?
14:12.33Thrae|AwayRAID_CLASS_COLORS is correct
14:12.52ag`but if class was "somethingwrong"
14:13.04ag`then RAID_CLASS_COLORS["somethingwrong] would be nil
14:13.09ag`and the function would return nil
14:13.11Thrae|AwayUnitClass returns either the correct English class name in uppercase, or nil
14:13.19Thrae|AwayJust check if it's nil
14:13.27ag`I do there I think
14:13.40ag`it never returns something like "not found" or something?
14:13.55Thrae|AwayIt won't do that unless you're not dealing with a player.
14:14.04ag`but I am dealing with a player
14:14.15ag`it's unit frames! :P
14:14.15Syzxcan you change what ChatFrame has 'focus' on 'startup'?
14:14.33Thrae|AwayI use it with TinyTip, and you haven't had a problem with it, right?
14:14.44Thrae|AwayBesides the problem you're having with the two LoD addons ;)
14:14.54ag`hehe, nope
14:15.01ag`but that error rarely happens anyway
14:15.02hasteSyzx: Kinda :p
14:15.19hasteSyzx: http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/ShowMyChat/
14:15.26Thrae|AwayI've never, ever seen the second return from UnitClass be anything but valid or nil
14:16.01ag`it's just that some of the ancient code from the old minigroup, kaitlin checked it against some string
14:16.04ag`let me see
14:16.16Syzxthanks haste, i'll give that a try
14:16.34Thrae|Awayag`: Maybe he was checking the 1st return?
14:16.50Thrae|AwayAnyway, ancient MiniGroup code conforms to ancient Blizzard API
14:17.03Thrae|AwayI'll say that RECENTLY UnitClass has not had that problem
14:17.06ag`if ( class ~= MG_MSG_UNKNOWNGENERIC ) then
14:17.06ag`return RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class]
14:17.39Thrae|AwayYeah, I'm pretty sure that's not necessary.
14:18.31Thrae|Awayag`: If you reaaaaally want to be sure, then check if RAID_CLASS_COLORS[englishClass] is not nil
14:19.01Thrae|Awayag`: If englishClass is something like "Not Specified", then hashing into RAID_CLASS_COLORS with that will return nil
14:19.21ag`yeah, that's the problem
14:19.36Thrae|AwayLua just returns nil if the hash key has no associated value
14:19.39ag`because the code you posted and that I'm using would return nil, instead of 1,1,1
14:20.13Thrae|AwayActually you'd get an error if englishClass wasn't valid, because .r, .g, .b would not exist
14:20.37ag`oh yeah. I need to add .r, .g, .b
14:20.41ag`I am missing those
14:20.55Thrae|AwayI'm dealing with tooltips, which the game engine deals with differently. Perhaps that's why I have not encountered that problem.
14:21.12Thrae|AwaySo just check if RAID_CLASS_COLORS[class] is valid before sending back .r, .g, .b, else send back 1,1,1
14:21.31ag`yep, fixing it when I get out of this instance
14:22.42Thrae|AwayWow, even pastebin.ca is slow today.
14:24.37ag`hay, what are you pasting? If it is a function, just commit it instead :P
14:26.05Thrae|AwayPeople like to look at pastebins instead rifling through code
14:28.46Thrae|Awayhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1699.0.html <-- posted it here instead
14:28.53Thrae|AwayHaving problems with the new Mana Bar in TinyTipExtras
14:29.38CIA-1103kaelten * r4979 10OneView/ (OneStorage.lua OneView.lua): OneView - Tweaked a few things to offer better localization support.
14:32.47Thrae|AwayHmmm, I think I know the problem.
14:35.54Thrae|AwayGameTooltip.unit is getting nil'd out somewhere.
14:36.33Mikmathat bastard!
14:37.00ag`I need to get rid of that instance zoning sound that randomly plays when I am in an instance
14:37.08ag`I suspect it might be an addon but I don't know
14:37.13ag`it pisses me off
14:37.23ag`It might be the same sound that plays when you log in
14:37.28ag`to your server with a char
14:38.13Tupladhttp://static.curse-gaming.com/mscreens/9674.jpg loool, show me memory usage plz :)
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14:41.07Mikmaag`: god damn it fix the disappearing frames already
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14:42.10Tupladhaste: what are you plans for ouF2?
14:42.40hastehi-mi-tsu!
14:42.44hastewell, not really
14:42.53ag`Mikma: dissapearing? :S
14:42.59ag`Mikma: just reset the settings
14:43.08ag`and they will be back
14:43.22Thrae|AwayHmmm, StatusBar still not showing
14:43.26ag`lol
14:45.00TupladKaelten: cant link items from OneView
14:45.45Mikmaag`: if i reset the settings, my positions will be reseted... remember?
14:46.01ag`'yes, so do that and they will reappear!
14:46.21Mikmaand i need to reposition them over and over and over and over and over
14:46.32ag`just once
14:48.16Thrae|Away<PROTECTED>
14:48.18Thrae|AwayWhoops
14:48.31ag`qrong window?
14:48.44Thrae|Awayhehe
14:48.49Mikmasomething keeps removing my actiontexts from castingbar :D
14:50.56CIA-1103kaelten * r4980 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua OneBag.xml OneCore.lua templates.xml): OneBag - Added ability to set frame strata, defaults to "Low"
14:51.17CIA-1103kaelten * r4981 10OneBank/ (OneBank.lua OneBank.xml): OneBank - Added ability to set frame strata, defaults to "Low"
14:51.19Thrae|AwayGrrr, why doesn't this StatusBar work...
14:51.43CIA-1103kaelten * r4982 10OneView/ (OneView.lua OneView.xml): OneView - Added ability to set frame strata, defaults to "High"
14:55.09TupladKaelten: I cant link items from oneview :<
14:56.06CIA-1103chinkuwaila * r4983 10BabbleLib/Boss/BabbleLib-Boss.lua: BigWigs (BabbleLib-Boss.lua): updated deDE localization for some Naxxramas bosses
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14:57.26KaeltenTuplad: um....   I know why!
14:57.35KaeltenTuplad: I never thought to add support for that!
14:59.21vhaarrSairen: With the latest MG2-sairen, I don't get mobhealth info when I have the display set to "smart"
15:00.26Sairenvhaarr:  lol k, I took it out myself without any reason ^^
15:00.50vhaarrSairen: you removed the mobhealth support? :P
15:00.59Sairenvhaarr: ye but don't know why ^^
15:01.07Sairenvhaarr: maybe was this night or so ^^
15:01.13vhaarrhaha :D
15:01.18vhaarrokay can you put it back in? :P
15:01.25Sairenyep one mom
15:01.32vhaarrlol
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15:02.07CIA-11BigWigs (Ace2 Branch):
15:02.07CIA-11* Lucifron.lua -> self.prior should be prior
15:06.46Sairenvhaarr: it's up *lol*
15:07.00vhaarrSairen: :D okya thanks, raiding now
15:07.04Sairenhave fun
15:07.45SyzxSairen: what FuBar texture are you using in the screenshots?
15:08.06SairenSyzx: http://www.wind-force.net/sairenui/misc/background.tga
15:08.42Sairenif you have your panel on top of the screen, you need to rotate it 180°
15:08.57Sairenit = the texture
15:09.04CIA-1103shyva 07Ace2 * r4985 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc MC/Gehennas.lua MC/Majordomo.lua):
15:09.04CIA-11BigWigs (Ace2 Branch):
15:09.04CIA-11Fixed some more mistakes.
15:09.47Syzxwill do, thanks :)
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15:12.50Tupladwhich screenshot ? :p
15:13.02Syzxhttp://www.wind-force.net/sairenui/
15:13.21CIA-1103kaelten * r4986 10OneView/OneView.lua: OneView - Added option /ov show bagslots to toggle the display of the bagslots. Defaults to showing.
15:13.25Tupladboohoohoo, that's sexy o_O
15:13.29Syzxthe tga is 194Kb, after rotating only 17kb :-/
15:13.29Sairen:D
15:13.44Sairenmh didn't compress it then
15:15.07wereHamsteris this a white color: "|c00FFFFFF" ?
15:15.18NeronixThat's a fully transparent white
15:15.21SairenSyzx: with what are you saving .tga?
15:15.27Sairenapp*
15:15.28Neronix|cFFFFFFFF is what you're after
15:15.31SyzxPaint.NET :o
15:16.04Sairenand the texture is workin?
15:16.11Saireningame
15:16.17Syzxdunno, still have to test it
15:16.24Syzxadded them to FuTextures
15:16.55wereHamsterKC Autorepair uses "|c00FFFF66" to color the amount of gold you've spent on repairs..
15:17.00CIA-1103shyva 07Ace2 * r4987 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc MC/BaronGeddon.lua MC/Shazzrah.lua):
15:17.00CIA-11BigWigs (Ace2 Branch):
15:17.00CIA-11Added syncing to Shazzrah
15:17.51Syzxnot working Sairen :(
15:18.08NeronixwereHamster: It does?
15:18.31NeronixI'm sure the first 2 digits were for alpha
15:19.05Thrae|ReallyAwayThe first two digits do not always work for alpha
15:19.42ThraeIt's safer to use FontString:SetTextColor(r,g,b,alpha)
15:21.19SyzxSairen: 24bit tga?
15:21.45SairenSyzx: my .tga saved with Paint.net didn't work either
15:21.49NeronixWhat if I'm not using a fontstring (e.g., I'm using a tablet) and/or I don't need alpha? Will |cXXXXXXXX do?
15:22.51SyzxI just tried with Photoshop, doesnt work either Sairen.
15:22.59Syzxwhat prog did you use/
15:23.55SairenCorel Paint Shop Pro X, but the trial version just ran out
15:24.16Sairenso ^^
15:24.33ag`Photoshop works for me...
15:24.57Syzxhow much bit does the texture need to be?
15:25.05Syzxi'm guessing 24 from the size
15:25.22Syzxbut in FuTextures are 14kb files that work too
15:25.37ag`32b
15:25.41ThraeNeronix: If you don't need alpha, then use FF as the first two characters
15:25.45ag`afaik
15:26.17ThraeSairen: GIMP man, GIMP! It was the original Adobe Photoshop, and it's still free and under development without all the bloat of Photoshop!
15:26.39ag`it was the original photoshop? o.O
15:26.40Sairenk then, installing it ^^
15:26.53ThraeYes, Adobe Photoshop was developed from GIMP.
15:27.05Sairennever got used to gimp
15:27.10ag`holy bananas, didn't know that
15:27.11ThraeThey added in enough of their own code that they were able to sell it.
15:27.31ThraeNow it's a few relations far from GIMP in code, but the interface is still similiar.
15:27.49SyzxThrae: that's quite something you're claiming there :P
15:27.53Syzxgot any proof? :o
15:27.55ag`ps is like 10 years old
15:28.00hasteGIMPShop !
15:29.32Neronixisn't Gimp GPL'd?
15:29.40ag`im  FaG
15:29.43NeronixIf so, how the hell did Adobe manage to legally use the code?
15:29.52ag`I AM A BIG FAGGOT I SUCK COCK FOR FREE
15:30.15Neronixag` got trojaned?
15:30.15ThraeSorry, Photoshop was released before GIMP, but Photoshop took features from GIMP ala Microsoft and Macintosh
15:30.30NeronixAh
15:31.02NeronixAnyways, whether you use Gimp or not, it's still an important thing.
15:31.12hasteGimpshop!
15:31.13vhaarrThrae: I have "hide tooltip on party frames" on, and when I hover MG2 frames, it shows "Player Options" tooltip instead, it's a really large help tooltip with lots of text in it.
15:31.16NeronixWithout it, GTK would not exist, and by extension, Gnome would not exist
15:31.24vhaarrThrae: so it's even worse than the unit tooltips
15:31.38Thraevhaarr: I believe I fixed that in my version.
15:31.48ThraeGIMP also accept most Adobe plugins.
15:31.49vhaarrThrae: latest SVN?
15:32.02hastehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop !
15:32.06ag`hmmm
15:32.14vhaarrThrae: at, locally
15:32.17Thraevhaarr: I was hoping to wait until I got the Mana Bar working.
15:32.20vhaarrThrae: yeah because I have the latest SVN
15:32.20ag`my friend has good humour
15:32.24vhaarrThrae: cool
15:32.34vhaarrThrae: well I'm raiding now and it's really annoying ... ;)
15:32.36vhaarr:P
15:32.40ThraeRight now the Mana Bar is baffling me.
15:32.59vhaarrdid you see my bugreport last night about the hp bar?
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15:34.01CIA-1103thrae * r4988 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTipAnchor.lua): TinyTip: Fixed anchoring issues with Extra Tooltip enabled.
15:34.43CIA-1103thrae * r4989 10TinyTipExtras/ (TinyTipExtras.lua TinyTipExtras.toc TinyTipIcons.lua): TinyTipExtras: Anchoring issues with ExtraTooltip, and readying for ManaBar.
15:35.05CIA-1103thrae * r4990 10TinyTipOptions/ (TinyTipChatLocale_enEN.lua TinyTipOptions.lua): TinyTipOptions: ManaBar option, not yet implemented.
15:35.20Thraevhaarr: Fixed that too.
15:35.54ThraeThose versions should be fine, I commented out the ManaBar code.
15:36.04Syzxoh, Sairen the texture was working
15:36.13Amadeohey Thrae
15:36.19AmadeoI'm not getting tooltips on objects
15:36.27Amadeolike corpses and such
15:36.39ThraeThat should be fixed in the SVN I just uploaded.
15:36.52Amadeoer
15:36.55Amadeobeing player corpses
15:36.55Amadeokk
15:36.57Amadeothanks :)
15:39.34NeronixAnd I should watch more SB emails :P
15:41.30CIA-1103kaelten * r4991 10OneView/ (OneView.lua OneView.xml): OneView - You can now link items from within oneview.
15:41.38KaeltenTuplad: there ya go
15:43.32Thrae|AwayIf anyone could comment on this thread if they know what's going on... http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1699.0.html
15:43.33Tupladwoohoo :D
15:43.52Neronixhttp://homestarrunner.com/sbemail153.html
15:44.04Neronix"Squish it! Skew it! And turn it all around!"
15:44.20Neronix"Now dip it into molten plexiglass... and I forgot the fangs."
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15:49.58Kaeltenwb ckknight
15:51.19Kaeltenwho writes confab?
15:51.45Kaeltenheya Cairenn.
15:52.04Cairennhello
15:52.47SyzxSairen: you should add your FuBar texture as link somewhere on your site, I'm sure more people would like it :)
15:56.12SlaymanThat sound after a boss is defeated comes from BigWigs?
15:56.17SlaymanAWESOME !
15:57.03Mikmadadaa
15:57.54gnorlishoh man thrae
15:57.56gnorlishmana bar
16:00.20vhaarrThrae|Away: SVN update, reload UI, still get the tooltip.
16:00.29ag`ugh
16:00.37ag`random runs = :(
16:02.28Mikmaaye
16:04.22CIA-1103uruloke * r4992 10ArcHUD2/ (16 files in 2 dirs):
16:04.23CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
16:04.23CIA-11- Semi-functional but static Dewdrop menu for configuration added
16:05.01Mikmaoh surprise surprise, layout was reseted
16:05.16Urulokecan someone get that new ArcHUD version and see if it works for them?
16:06.39Mikmaneinrrrrr!
16:07.58Mikmaag`: the layout does not save at all.
16:08.14Mikmaag`: i have to drag the frames to their positions everytime i login / /rl
16:08.20Mikmathat's not funny anymore
16:08.43Mikmaif i disable the Reset() then the frames are missing at startup
16:09.19Sairenis it possible to lock an multiline editbox?
16:10.01ag`Mikma: it is a problem with the saving loading code of positions I guess
16:10.25Neronixhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=gSYlrTt51nU
16:10.41Mikmaag`: anyway, it sucks
16:11.50ag`yeah it does
16:11.59ag`It's what I told you
16:12.09ag`I hate saving frame positions with lua
16:12.24ag`blizzard should just fix their code
16:19.16Thrae|AwayKaelten: There is no error, it just never shows.
16:19.53Neronixhttp://www.consumerist.com/consumer/top/scientologists-bullying-mans-mind-181442.php - I actually loled at this one
16:19.56Thrae|AwayUgghh headache and tired, maybe I should take a break.
16:21.56vhaarrThrae|Away: I'm still getting the tooltip :( I haven't relogged though, just reloaded UI.
16:28.26UrulokeAceConsole with passing groups doesn't work for me and Dewdrop menus doesn't work. I must have something majorly messed up in my code somewhere...
16:36.44clad|sleepAnyone happen to know the deDE or zhCN word for "Rank", like "Spell (Rank X)"?
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16:37.36clad|sleepncm
16:37.37clad|sleepnvm/
16:37.38clad|sleepnick cladhaire
16:38.00Kaeltenlol
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16:39.07Urulokesleepy, clad? ;)
16:39.29Soltaniskaelten : OneView appears to have a counting problem, Should i reset save variables and see if it happens again?
16:39.45KaeltenSoltanis: describe the bug please.
16:39.48wereHamsterclad|sleep, deDE: 'Rang'
16:39.56Urulokeaha!! I think I have finally figured out why my Dewdrop menus aren't updating!
16:39.59Soltanisyeah just shugging out a screenshot
16:40.02Soltanisgimp is loading :-)
16:40.19CIA-1103cladhaire * r4993 10Clique/ (4 files):
16:40.19CIA-11Clique:
16:40.19CIA-11* Added localization patterns for spell ranks
16:40.19CIA-11* Updated frFR localisation for Mark of the Wild
16:43.41ag`Thrae|Away: I am going to test what addon that interferes with LoadAddon now
16:45.18clad|sleepwereHamster: Are you deDE?  Would you mind trying that out for me?
16:45.29CIA-1103cladhaire * r4994 10Clique/ (7 files):
16:45.29CIA-11Clique:
16:45.29CIA-11* Fixed all occurances of spell rank localisation. MAX rank should work
16:45.29CIA-11* Spell display will now be "Rank X" instead of "RankX" on list screen
16:46.41SoltanisKaelten : mind if i pm you the link?
16:46.52Kaeltenago for it
16:47.02ag`Thrae|Away: you forgot to add ace as a req for TinyTip
16:47.10clad|sleepElkano: Hewwo =)
16:48.13Elkanoit's nice to see how everyone sends me little bday presents even without knowing ^^
16:49.05ag`<PROTECTED>
16:52.46Mikmaag`: it's depfree i think
16:52.54ag`depfree?
16:53.27Mikmadependency
16:54.15ag`for what?
16:54.19ag`I don't use that
16:54.23Mikma<PROTECTED>
16:54.29Neronixdepfree = dependency-free = no dependencies
16:54.46Mikmaya thx Neronix =)
16:54.53Neronixnp
16:55.34Elkanoace2 isn't a dep but a set of emblibs
16:59.31ag`Ok, Thrae|Away ... Are you there?
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17:01.47Mikmai was having a hard time writing since i was on phone with my mom :)
17:01.59ag`I found the problem with Tinytip
17:02.03ag`It's Ace2
17:02.33ag`if I have any addon enabled that uses Ace2 TinyTipExtras/Options gets a loading time of 60sec+
17:02.52wereHamstercladhaire, I have an enGB client.. but I know Rank is Rang
17:04.09CIA-1103ag * r4995 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames - Attempt at fixing nil error related to raid coloring
17:04.26hasteag`: Tinytip options work just fine here :<
17:04.44ag`I will try to update all my Ace2 addons from SVN now
17:04.59Mikmahaste: not in here, every time i type /tiny and press tab to complete it my wow crashes
17:05.10hasteTinyTipOptions took 00 to initialize. << sup with that one?
17:05.23Mikmahaste: debug message
17:05.25ag`Mikma: try to disable all Ace2 addons and try again
17:05.38hasteMikma: yes, but why is it enabled in the first place :p ?
17:05.58Mikmahaste: tabcomplete?
17:06.02hastealso, if I write /tiny it completes it
17:06.07hasteto tinypad, then tinytip
17:06.22ag`Mikma: try to disable all Ace2 addons and try again
17:06.26ag`tell me what happens
17:06.29Mikmaag`: i will
17:06.48Mikmai still have 1,5h playtime left :D
17:08.20vhaarrSairen^Naxx: Okay mobhealth support works now :P
17:08.30Sairen^Naxxvhaarr: ok
17:08.33Mikmaag`: disabled all addons and works now
17:08.41ag`no problems at all?
17:08.48ag`then try enabling all non-ace2
17:09.44ag`you need to type faster Mikma :-D
17:09.58Mikmaag`: i'm watching a movie too ;)
17:10.27Mikmathe problem is i can't remember which addons use ace2 :D
17:10.33Mikmasome of them don't have the tag in the name
17:10.47Mikmayeah tested without ace2 addons. does not crash
17:11.14vhaarrthat reminds me, cladhaire should add "Ace2" to Clique :P
17:11.21vhaarrto the .toc name
17:11.29Mikmavhaarr: clique is depfree ..
17:11.30hasteclad isn't one of those who does that
17:11.34Mikmai don't think it even uses ace2
17:11.43Mikmait's completely standalone
17:11.58vhaarrit uses ace2
17:12.10vhaarrconsole, hook, library, oo
17:12.19Mikmaoh yeah, seems like it ;)
17:12.24Mikmahaven't looked in the folder yet hehe
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17:13.16FryGuy-http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2097/pigtailshr7.png
17:13.20FryGuy-haha such a funny picture
17:13.24Mikmaag`: seems like i got 3 ace2 addons loaded. clique, witchhunt and ag_UnitFrames
17:13.36Mikmatried now with Clique and Witchhunt, didn't crash
17:13.37FryGuy-the gnomes got new helmets last night and are showing them off :p
17:13.52ag`Mikma: find out what causes it
17:14.18Mikmaag`: i now enabled ag_UnitFrames and boom! there goes wow
17:14.27ag`for me it could be any ace2 mod, even with just Onebag + tinytip causes the problem for me
17:14.30MikmaFryGuy-: what hat is that?
17:16.08ag`nope Mikma, the problem is fixed for me now
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17:16.55Mikmaag`: well?
17:17.06ag`I updated everything from the SVN
17:17.10mjcitembonusesfu, yay!
17:17.52Mikmaag`: i just tested with only aguf.. guess what happened
17:18.05ag`well the problem happened?
17:18.08Mikmanope :D
17:18.12ag`oh
17:18.14ag`anyway
17:18.21ag`I have everything running now
17:18.37Mikmait's some sort of 2x ace2 addons problem or so
17:18.44Mikmai'll try enabling witchhunt now and see what happens
17:19.01CIA-1103uruloke * r4996 10ArcHUD2/ (Core.lua Rings/Health.lua):
17:19.01CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
17:19.01CIA-11- Dewdrop menu system has been fixed! Woohoo!
17:20.37Mikmawell...
17:20.44Mikmaseems like clique is the problem for me ;)
17:21.04Mikmait was the last addon i enabled
17:21.20ag`try updating it from SVN
17:21.54cladhairewhat issue/error are you having?
17:22.07Mikmacladhaire: crash when i type /tiny and press tab
17:22.13Elkanocladhaire, it seems like the spells had been added with max set so that's the reason max was disabled
17:22.26Mikmaag had some interesting crash too but after he updated addons from svn it's gone
17:22.30Mikmai'm doing the same now
17:22.32cladhaireMikma: I don't even touch AceTab
17:22.39cladhaire*shrug*
17:22.44Mikmacladhaire: yeah but we think it's AceConsole problem
17:22.49ElkanoThrae, tooltips for eg chairs still don't show up for me and those for action buttons and items are still buged
17:22.50cladhaireremove the AceConsole from my directory
17:22.52cladhairei dont even use it atm
17:24.34MikmaFryGuy-: yahoo? what helm is that?
17:24.46CIA-1103phyber * r4997 10XPBarNone/Core.lua:
17:24.46CIA-11XPBarNone:
17:24.46CIA-11- Fixed a nil error.
17:25.31ElkanoThrae: and setting ttextra to sth else then off and back to off again results in the unit tooltips not being possitioned correctly (they stay at the plce the last tooltip was shown) and being empty, but the background is colored correctly
17:26.23ag`<PROTECTED>
17:27.02Mikmaag`: mmkay
17:27.13Mikmaag`: well i'm updating all addons now and see does the error exist
17:27.24Mikmaerror=crash
17:27.38Mikmagod damn, 1h togo :P
17:27.53Mikmatoo bad i realized too late today that stores are open :P
17:28.03Mikmacouldn't go and buy a gamecard
17:28.12ag`No credit card? :D
17:28.54Mikmanope, i have used my mom's visa for some time but now did take it off from subscription...
17:29.07Mikmawill use my own visa electron on it when the card arrives on next week
17:29.57CIA-1103cladhaire * r4998 10Clique/ (Clique.lua Plugins/Clique_PCUF.lua):
17:29.57CIA-11Clique:
17:29.58CIA-11* Changed the plugin for PCUF to use the new super magical custom func
17:29.58CIA-11* Thanks to global for making the framework changes for me.
17:30.09Mikmacladhaire: :DD
17:30.16hastehaha
17:30.19NeronixBut he still sucks :P
17:30.20Mikmai thought that update on PCUF will make you happy puppy
17:30.24hasteI bet you tortured him ;p
17:30.27cladhaireyeah, global and i worked on it a bit.
17:30.31cladhairenah, just send him one PM =)
17:30.38cladhaireand now Tivoli is making the nurfed changes for me
17:30.45cladhairejust need to get the X-Perl guy to change
17:31.04Mikmacladhaire: was it something like "if you don't do *this* and *that* i will have you hanged from your balls to flagpole
17:31.09Mikma"
17:31.41cladhairenah
17:31.44cladhairei just asked =)
17:31.53cladhairethe X-Perl guy I said I woudln't add it until he made the code changes =)
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17:33.18cladhairelol =)
17:33.42Urulokewas gonna have YOU change the ArcHUD Clique plugin logic :)
17:34.54Mikmaag`: doesn't crash anymore
17:35.04ag`Mikma: goodie
17:35.12ag`we just had too old Ace2 libs
17:35.17ag`I guess
17:35.41Mikmacladhaire: remember to delete the AceConsole off from Clique :)
17:35.41UrulokeAce2 is in stage of much change and uh... something
17:35.42hastequestion!
17:36.01Neronixanswer?
17:36.13hastehttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1596.msg30544.html#msg30544 << Is that the problem you guys had?
17:37.02NeronixCan't remember last time I pressed tab, sorry :(
17:37.05Neronixgo bug hC
17:37.15hasteMikma: look two lines above
17:37.39Mikmahaste: <2037> <Neronix> Can't remember last time I pressed tab, sorry :(
17:37.53hasteuhm
17:38.02hasteIT WAS TWO!
17:38.13Neronixnow it's 7
17:38.20Urulokeor is it?
17:38.31haste:----(
17:38.38hastejust answer me so I can give a reply
17:39.14NeronixhC wrote the tab complete stuff in AceConsole and AceTab, /annoy him
17:39.15Mikmahaste: aye, same problem atleast on me... i updated Clique, Witchhunt, ag_UnitFrames and /dev/null from SVN and the error is gone
17:48.13Mikmaag`: fix the positioning please? i just got whacked because i didn't see my health
17:49.08CIA-1103neronix 07Neronix * r4999 10AceUtils/Table-2.0/AceUtils-Table-2.0.lua: AceUtils - Table: Added note about origin of the :DestroyTable() included
17:49.08CIA-1103neronix * r5000 10DeuceCommander/ (DeuceCommander.lua DeuceCommander.toc Libs/):
17:49.09CIA-11DeuceCommander
17:49.09CIA-11- Added debug strings
17:49.09CIA-11- Added slash command (Which is accessible via the menu as well :P)
17:49.10CIA-11- Various comment tweaks. Some unnecessary ones removed, others replaced by ones that make more sense
17:49.14Neronix^^
17:49.14CIA-11- Fixed savedvars. Minimap button shouldn't reset position anymore
17:49.26NeronixNow I own revs 1k, 3k, 4k and 5k!
17:51.12vhaarrhaha
17:51.19vhaarrI bet you wait with committing ;)
17:53.35hastehe commited twice to get it
17:53.46NeronixThey were different mods
17:53.50NeronixSo it's valid
17:55.51CIA-1103uruloke * r5001 10ArcHUD2/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
17:55.51CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
17:55.52CIA-11- Added remaining options
17:55.52CIA-11- Fixed option defaults in DruidMana and ComboPoints
17:55.52CIA-11- Removed old GUI dialog files
18:00.28ag`Mikma: going to MC now
18:00.36Mikmaag`: good, FIX IT!
18:01.04ag`no, that means that I can't do it
18:01.06ag`now
18:01.14Mikmayes you can since it bugs :P
18:01.38ag`no
18:01.47ag`I don't have time now :D
18:01.54Mikmawell skip the raid ;)
18:02.19ag`No man, epix > coding :p
18:03.05wereHamsterhyperChipmunk, morning
18:03.34wereHamsterI found why sending items CoD doesn't work when BM is enabled
18:04.31hasteag`: I disagree!
18:05.00ag`I kinda do too but I just tried to sound e-cool
18:08.33wereHamsterhyperChipmunk, you're hooking 'SendMailMailButton_OnClick', but if GetSendMailItem() returns something, which is the case if I want to send an item, you take a different codepath and don't execute the original function.
18:08.58Soltanisvhaarr : i did it again... killed myself at gluth
18:09.05Soltanisi think i need to learn to play :-(
18:09.59wereHamstersending money along with items also doesn't work :(
18:12.30hyperChipmunkso you're saying that line 432 should be replaced with self.hooks[SendMailMailButton].OnClick.orig()
18:12.59hyperChipmunkand 404
18:14.42vhaarr:P
18:15.33wereHamsterhyperChipmunk, why not, but that would mean when the user sets CoD and puts item into the BM list, it will send them all CoD
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18:15.48wereHamsteris that's acceptable, then that would be one solution
18:15.57hyperChipmunkcod isn't cleared?
18:17.00wereHamsteryes, so only the first item would be CoD..
18:17.05hyperChipmunkright
18:17.17hyperChipmunksame as what happens if you send a message
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18:20.11hastehmm
18:20.30hastemy tinytip is... strange
18:20.56hyperChipmunkgood bug report
18:21.00Elkanostate the bug and I'll say mine is behaving the same ;)
18:21.02hastelike.. a single healthbar in the corcer, and a little black tooltip at the minimap with nothing in it
18:21.29Elkanoyou messed with tinytps extra tooltip, didn't you?
18:21.40hastenope
18:21.46hasteI only have Tinytip and tinytipoptions
18:21.59Elkanohmm... that was causing this for me
18:22.03hasteI can upload a screen ;D
18:22.16Elkanobut maybe it only results in a bug in the core ^^
18:22.55hastemaybe I should revert to the old old old version :p
18:23.11hastefirst one with a HP bar
18:23.46CIA-1103uruloke * r5002 10ArcHUD2/ (Core.lua Rings/Casting.lua):
18:23.46CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
18:23.46CIA-11- Removed version check since it's not necessary anymore
18:23.46CIA-11- Fixed bug in Casting ring causing resuming from standby to fail
18:23.46CIA-11- Removed code not used anymore
18:23.47CIA-11- Changed clickcasting behaviour
18:24.59hyperChipmunkjust checked it out
18:25.21Urulokeooh really? :)
18:25.33hyperChipmunkyep
18:25.38hyperChipmunkstarting wow now
18:26.40hastewee
18:26.42hastefound a solution
18:26.52hastedefautl anchoring = bad :p
18:27.26hyperChipmunkUruloke: mm, crash and burn
18:27.55wereHamsterhyperChipmunk, also, why not wait for MAIL_SEND_SUCCESS until you send the next item?
18:28.19UrulokehyperChipmunk: eep?
18:29.29hyperChipmunkwereHamster: i duno; cuz I don't =P
18:30.04ag`cladhaire: is it possible to put a macro on a clique action?
18:30.07hyperChipmunkwereHamster: your externals look to be jacked
18:30.16hyperChipmunkthis is what my directory listing looks like
18:30.41hyperChipmunkArcHUD2.toc Core.lua Core.xml Icons Libs Libs\AceAddon Libs\AceConsole Libs\AceDB etc.
18:31.05hyperChipmunker
18:31.08hyperChipmunknot wereHamster, Uruloke
18:31.26cladhaireag`Not a macro.. we have no way to access them
18:31.40cladhaire<PROTECTED>
18:31.46ag`more like a script
18:31.56ag`ok
18:32.07UrulokehyperChipmunk: you saying you're missing files or... what?
18:32.11ag`How do I do that? I have to add it in a lua file or is there an edit box?
18:32.27hyperChipmunkno I'm saying there's a directory literally named Libs\AceAddon in my ArcHUD2 directory
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18:32.42UrulokehyperChipmunk: yeah, it's supposed to be that way
18:32.45hyperChipmunkinstead of a Libs directory with an AceAddon directory inside of it
18:32.46hyperChipmunknono
18:32.56hyperChipmunkthat's the name of the directory
18:32.58Urulokeooooh!
18:33.03Urulokeuhm...
18:33.04hyperChipmunkwell, technically, Libs\\AceAddon
18:33.25hyperChipmunkyou used backslashes in your externals
18:33.37UrulokeI shouldn't?
18:33.54hyperChipmunkapparently not =p
18:34.00UrulokeI've never noticed since it's worked for me
18:34.25hyperChipmunkwell, it interprets it literally in unix
18:34.35Urulokeyeah
18:34.44hyperChipmunkand since I haven't seen the problem with any other addon...
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18:36.09CIA-1103moonwolf * r5003 10Counterder/Counterder.lua: Counterder: Colours should work now.
18:36.27CIA-1103uruloke * r5004 10ArcHUD2/ (. Core.lua):
18:36.28CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
18:36.28CIA-11- Fixed reset not using the new settings
18:36.28CIA-11- Fixed externals
18:36.48Uruloketry again
18:37.43Elkanoseems to be working for me, but a) name plates are buged in drewdrop and DruidMana still not showing
18:37.54Elkanoor do I need an addon in order to have it work?
18:38.10UrulokeDruidBar or SoleManax is needed for DruidMana
18:38.23Elkanoand having both druidmana and combo on 1, what will happen?
18:38.37Urulokethey'll be on top of each other
18:38.41Elkanoah, ok, that's why it didn't work ^^
18:38.51Urulokehehe
18:38.58ckknighthey all.
18:39.02Urulokeheya
18:39.04Mikmahi boss
18:39.08ckknightwhat's up?
18:39.38Mikmanothing much
18:40.59Urulokehaving TinyTip anchor frame tooltips with STICKY makes it appear underneath Dewdrop's menus so err... you can't really see them
18:41.07hyperChipmunkUruloke: scale can't be set over 100%
18:41.13vhaarrMoonWolf: what's Counterder? maybe you can add a proper Note to the .toc
18:41.30hyperChipmunknot with the gui, anyways
18:41.43UrulokehyperChipmunk: aah yes.. forgot to set the max higher
18:42.11NeronixhC: Sorry for the rather random question, but how fun are hunters?
18:43.11hyperChipmunkI'd say they're the most fun class ever, but I haven't played any others, so my opinion MAY be skewed a tad
18:43.20Urulokehehe
18:43.56CIA-1103moonwolf * r5005 10Counterder/ (Counterder.lua Counterder.toc): Countender: Returning RetVal now, added description to the toc like <vhaarr> asked me too.
18:44.11vhaarrMoonWolf: you rock
18:44.13vhaarr:D
18:44.26vhaarraah
18:44.41CIA-1103uruloke * r5006 10ArcHUD2/Core.lua:
18:44.41CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
18:44.41CIA-11- Scaling can now go up to 200%
18:44.45hyperChipmunkty
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18:45.21vhaarrThrae|Away: maybe you could add that to TinyTip, too
18:45.35vhaarrThrae|Away: that scaling can go to 200%, has bothered me a little to have only 100%
18:46.46Elkanobtw: ck, have you changed the font for tabletlibs cols 2+?
18:47.23ckknightnot to my knowledge
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18:47.36Elkanofor me they are different from col1
18:47.41ckknightit's easy to change
18:47.43ckknighthrm, odd
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18:50.37CIA-1103ckknight * r5007 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - added disabled/hidden capabilities
18:50.50hyperChipmunkUruloke: turning off player/pet nameplates works for the player, but the pet's nameplate comes back after a couple seconds
18:51.18UrulokehyperChipmunk: ooh? Hmm... maybe forgot to turn off a timer
18:52.05hyperChipmunkor it shows when pet happiness changes, or something
18:52.26Urulokenah, forgot timers
18:52.36Elkanohmmm... ck, if I detach the 'tooltip' from fubar its fine again :/ but fubar's tooltips are messed up
18:53.38CIA-1103uruloke * r5008 10ArcHUD2/Core.lua:
18:53.38CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
18:53.38CIA-11- Fixed pet nameplate not disabling properly
18:53.46ckknightlooks fine to  me
18:53.56Mikmackknight: yeah you are hot piece of ass we know
18:54.05ckknight...
18:54.14Mikmadid i just say that out loud?
18:54.51ag`no, just continue
18:55.08ElkanoI'll give you a screenshot after the bg
18:55.13ckknightlol, Amadeo
18:55.47Urulokehmm, TinyTip's extra tooltip still doesn't play well with Auctioneer when mousing over action buttons and the like
18:56.21AmadeoIt doesn't get any more serious than a Rhinocerus about to charge your ass
18:57.00KebinusanSo I started playing around with this mod called RDX.. its like a ctra/boss mod thing.. I have to say its fairly impressive looking although Im not liking this 20kib increasing while idle
18:57.23AmadeoRDX
18:57.29AmadeoIsn't that an SUV by Acura?
18:57.40UrulokeRSX?
18:57.43Amadeono!
18:57.48Urulokehehe
18:57.58Amadeohttp://www.motortrend.com/future/spied_vehicles/112_0308_2007_acura_rdx/
18:57.59Amadeo:D
18:58.07ag`loot the dog
18:58.14Urulokethat's an SUV?
18:58.37Urulokenuh uh
18:58.37ckknightokay, the current AceOptions thing is flawed. It needs ordering, and possibly blank spaces
18:58.46ckknightcause it looks weird in Dewdrop
18:58.54Urulokeand deeper passing groups!
18:59.11AmadeoUruloke: Sport Utility Vehicle
18:59.21Amadeosomething that's not a truck and not a van
18:59.25Amadeobut kinda both
18:59.29Amadeoand likes gas
18:59.33Urulokehehe
18:59.41Kebinusanhahah no not the rv
18:59.56AmadeoUruloke: Ok, it's an um...
18:59.58Amadeohm
19:00.01Amadeowhat are those called now
19:00.03AmadeoCrossovers?
19:00.14Urulokeriiight
19:00.15NeronixHybrid
19:00.26Neronixkek
19:00.27Kebinusanits some raid mod developed by a guild called Scions of Destiny or something... I saw a few screenshots before, but there was a link posted on the raids and dungeon forums
19:00.30Amadeohaha
19:00.57Amadeo:D
19:01.01ckknightyou people aren't helpful :-P
19:01.10Urulokewe're not?
19:01.25Amadeockknight: I'd say that your ideas are spot on
19:01.50ckknightI wanted advice on how to remedy the situation
19:02.10Urulokeuh... well uhm... recode the whole thing? o.o
19:02.20hyperChipmunkhelps if you ask for it
19:02.37Amadeockknight: I think it needs ordering and some blank spaces
19:02.49Urulokeand deeper passing groups!
19:02.56AmadeoI don't even know what any of it does :(
19:02.56ckknightbut how would I add it?
19:02.57Uruloke*coughs*
19:03.05NeronixAnd magic fairy dust
19:03.09ckknightUruloke, that'd fuck up the current system pretty harsh
19:03.12Amadeockknight: Stop trying to pretend like you don't have skills!
19:03.16Urulokeckknight: aww :(
19:03.24hyperChipmunki think it's good enough; the effort required to implement it would negate the simplicity
19:03.59Urulokeckknight: would it really? I mean if you have a group with pass=true and no func it'll just fall back until it gets to a group with pass=true and a func
19:04.22ckknightUruloke, no, it'd fuck things up to the extreme to have >1 passing value
19:04.42hyperChipmunkplus, your mother is a whore
19:04.46hyperChipmunkand you smell
19:04.49Urulokeguess I don't know how it works, eh? ;)
19:05.02Urulokethen again, AceOptions was very confusing to begin with *nods*
19:06.18Urulokesomething I was confused about was that the key != name
19:06.44Uruloke...I'm not helping now am I?
19:06.51ckknightprolly not
19:06.57ckknightname is a short description
19:07.00Amadeowhat do you guys use for a Windows Gnutella client?
19:07.26Urulokename is a short description and desc is a... long description?
19:07.43hyperChipmunkand dissertation is a very long description
19:08.48Urulokeanyway... if you turn the key to a field instead you can have ordering by having numerical keys?
19:09.06hyperChipmunkls -> list -> List contents of a directory :: key -> name -> desc
19:09.50UrulokehyperChipmunk: that almost makes sense :)
19:10.00hyperChipmunkthe key is what you enter in the commandline
19:10.16hyperChipmunkyou might use rm
19:10.28hyperChipmunkthat's the key
19:10.34hyperChipmunkthe name would be 'remove'
19:10.35Elkanockknight, here you go: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8443/tabletbug001sy9.jpg
19:10.45Urulokethe name part doesn't show up in the command listing though
19:10.47hyperChipmunkdescription would be 'Removes files'
19:10.53Kebinusanhttp://www.simplicity-guild.com/Updates/RDXSS.png  Here is a screenshot of what Im talking about
19:11.09Elkanoas you can see, the upper right strings are smaller than the rest
19:11.33ckknightyea, weird
19:12.41wereHamsterKebinusan, ist that BigWigs2?
19:13.12Kebinusanno its something called rdx
19:13.30KebinusanI guess it was privately written, here lemme dig up the post
19:14.21ag`I want to delete the blizzard addons
19:14.25ag`and keep them away
19:14.28ag`and unloaded
19:15.01Kebinusanhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-dungeons&t=610405
19:15.50Kebinusantheres the thread about it, apparently there is a free version floating about and a new version will be released soon, but I really liked the interface and the stopwatch type timer thing, Ive never seen another mod do something like that
19:15.57CIA-1103kyahx * r5009 10FreeRefills/ (. libs/): FreeRefills : Adding libs folder for Ace2 conversion
19:22.45MikmaNeronix: oh yeah gz on 5k :)
19:26.05Amadeoag`: me too
19:26.35Mikmaag`: me three
19:27.30CIA-1103uruloke * r5010 10ArcHUD2/ (12 files in 2 dirs):
19:27.30CIA-11ArcHUD (Ace2):
19:27.30CIA-11- Updated TOC file and removed redundant files
19:27.40ag`what?
19:29.20Urulokeanyone wanna do translations for other locales for ArcHUD?
19:34.08Urulokeguess not ;)
19:34.43SoltanisKebinusan : haha at some of the comments on there
19:37.59wereHamsterKebinusan, I'm wondering how they can 'protect' their addon O.o
19:39.10Urulokeif(not UnitGuild("player") == "Scions of Whatever") then killself end ? ;)
19:40.52ckknightthink so
19:42.06wereHamsterno.. then drop all epics ;)
19:42.29wereHamsterthat would be much more.. evil
19:42.33Urulokehehe
19:42.48Urulokewell, he did say you'd probably regret trying it
19:44.27Urulokehmm, seems like I've broken FlightMap support... again
19:44.55Urulokeif only Dhask could add those hooks
19:47.37mjcflightmap sucks :p
19:48.03Urulokenoooo!
19:48.12Urulokeerr... I mean. Elaborate!
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19:49.47Soltanisanyone else tested bigwigs on Gluth?
19:50.41mjcI wish
19:51.42Soltanishmm im still having problems catching the first Decimate, anything i can do to help?
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19:58.08AmadeoThrae|Away, are you really away? :)
19:59.12FryGuy-Soltanis: ya i had problems on first decimate so I changed it to the enter-combat thing
19:59.40Soltanisyou updated one in branches/
20:00.16Soltanis?*
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20:00.59ToastTheifokay how do I save files on the SVN?
20:02.03AmadeoThrae|Away: tooltips still aren't working on player corpses/mineral veins, etc :(
20:02.26vhaarrToastTheif: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/What_is_the_SVN%3F
20:03.18vhaarrspecifically http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/What_is_the_SVN%3F#Importing
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20:06.54Mikmafirst you need an account
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20:10.17ToastTheifI need an accnt?
20:10.21ToastTheifsigh SVN is confusing
20:11.15ToastTheifso Im reading the wiki..
20:11.20ToastTheifand it says I should use a client
20:11.39ToastTheifTortise, Smart, and Rapid..
20:12.12ckknightto commit, you need an account
20:12.16ckknighttalk to cladhaire
20:12.17ToastTheifSmartSVN sounds safe?
20:12.23ckknightuse Tortoise
20:12.45ToastTheifokay
20:13.42ToastTheifWoWI seems so much simplier ;)
20:14.51hyperChipmunknot if you're writing addons
20:16.03hasteI agree
20:16.24ToastTheifI figured the answer would be something like that
20:16.29MikmaThis account has been frozen and cannot be used for playing.
20:16.30Mikmaboo
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20:17.07ToastTheifhehe I hate that
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20:17.33AmadeoHow do accounts get frozen?
20:17.49ToastTheifnot paying
20:18.04Amadeoso it's just cancelled?
20:18.13ToastTheifpretty much
20:18.22MikmaAmadeo: yeah cancel subscription/don't enter gamecard :)
20:18.32Amadeogotcha
20:22.53vhaarrSoltanis: are you doing Gluth now?
20:22.59vhaarrSoltanis: is the mod wrong?
20:23.50hasteWhich is why you pay with a credit card
20:23.52vhaarrtimers off or something?
20:25.04Soltanisit's not picking up the first timer for decimate
20:25.08ToastTheifokay tortisesvn dled
20:25.11ToastTheifIm gonna restart my comp
20:25.14ToastTheifcuz it said to..
20:25.22Soltanisi don't think it's set to start on getting in combat
20:26.18ToastTheifbrb
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20:27.02vhaarrSoltanis: aha
20:27.07vhaarrSoltanis: have you fixed it locally?
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20:29.39ToastTheifokay
20:29.53hyperChipmunkFunny error --> Bad argument #3 to `nil' (nil or nil expected, got nil)
20:30.04ToastTheifso installed tortise and restarted comp
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20:30.09ToastTheifnow to finish reading the wiki..
20:30.35ToastTheifRight Click in explorer
20:30.37ToastTheifwhat does that mean?
20:30.47hyperChipmunkMy Computer
20:30.51hyperChipmunkthose windows
20:30.57hyperChipmunkwith your files inside
20:31.00hyperChipmunkthat's explorer
20:31.06ToastTheifoh
20:31.12vhaarr[Ammo]: The Gluth mod doesn't start the Decimate timer when you engage him.
20:31.45vhaarr[Ammo]: So there's no warning for the first decimate zerg.
20:32.50ToastTheifso I just put http://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/browse/trunk/TinyTip/
20:32.54ToastTheifin the little url box?
20:33.31ToastTheifapparently not, that gave me an error..
20:34.22Soltanisvhaarr : nope haven't looked at it, i think FryGuy- said he had switched to "in combat" or something
20:34.51Soltanis" [FryGuy-] Soltanis: ya i had problems on first decimate so I changed it to the enter-combat thing"
20:36.24ToastTheiferm, so then
20:36.39ToastTheifacewiki isn't much of a help for me
20:36.43vhaarrSoltanis: okay cool, I guess it's not committed yet
20:36.44ToastTheifanyone know how to do this?
20:37.01Soltanisno idea , he didn't reply after
20:37.36vhaarrToastTheif: I'm guessing cladhaire or ckknight_ could help you
20:39.02hyperChipmunkit's just /root/trunk
20:39.06hyperChipmunkno browse
20:39.14ToastTheifyeah Im a noob with all this stuff
20:39.15venToastTheif: try http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/TinyTip
20:39.15Mikmazomg
20:39.51ToastTheifhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/TinyTip worked
20:41.30ToastTheifone more quest
20:41.34ToastTheifquestion*
20:41.47ToastTheifTinyTip has the Extras and Options thing too
20:42.06ToastTheifbut now when I right click the TinyTip folder, it doesn't have checkout, just update
20:42.14ToastTheifso how will I go about doing that?
20:44.05NeronixExtras and options are separate addons
20:44.40ToastTheifooh
20:44.41vhaarrThrae|Away: poke
20:44.43ToastTheifokay then
20:50.02ToastTheifthis svn thing is kinda nice
20:50.13ToastTheifjust look in my addons folder and see all the ace addons I have to update..
20:52.30vhaarrindeed and you don't have to check any websites for updates
20:52.34vhaarrjust SVN update every day
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21:09.38CIA-1103chinkuwaila * r5011 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Maexxna.lua: BigWigs (Maexxna): added deDE translation
21:11.59Mikmai don't get the "wah wah" of RDX / RXD / something
21:12.13Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-realm-kilrogg&T=153780&P=1
21:13.39ToastTheifis there a way to see what addons do on the SVN?
21:13.48ToastTheifthere's a lot on there that I've never seen on the ace forums
21:13.52ToastTheifand I have no idea what they do
21:15.14NeronixToastTheif: TOC is your best bet atm
21:15.28ToastTheifyeah that's what I've been looking at
21:15.46ToastTheifsome dont tell though, is there plans to add descs? on SVN?
21:20.13ckknight_the TOC?
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21:20.35Kyahxhey hey
21:20.52Kyahxhaste: I added a new texture for oUF bars, mind if I upload it?
21:21.08Mikmano ;)
21:21.21Kyahx=)
21:23.01Mikmai'm something like 3h overtime ingame now ;D
21:23.03Mikmahehehehehee
21:23.49CIA-1103neriak 07Paparazzi * r5012 10Paparazzi_R3/: Paparazzi: tagged R3
21:25.07vhaarrKyahx: I got some strange errors with AceHeal today, too bad I got them in combat so I had to click them away quickly.
21:25.07wereHamsterwhat's Paparazzi?
21:25.19vhaarrKyahx: so I guess telling you this has no purpose .. :P
21:25.25KyahxUse BugSack :p
21:25.34MikmawereHamster: something to do with clear screenshot or so
21:25.45KyahxI haven't looked at AceHeal in a while thou, I don't even use it anymore :X
21:25.51vhaarrwell you use AHL?
21:25.59KyahxI dont use anything, heh
21:26.14vhaarrcan't be arsed to heal?
21:26.15vhaarr:P
21:26.20NeronixSo what's the opinion on this RDX thing? Good? Bad? Bloated and buggy?
21:26.20KyahxWent to manually chooseing ranks and my overheal went from an average of like 15% to 6%
21:26.29KyahxI haven't seen RDX
21:26.57ToastTheifwhat's RDX?
21:27.15NeronixSome weird raidmod set
21:27.34ToastTheiffor healing?
21:28.01wereHamsterNeronix, looks quite nice..
21:28.10Neronixa total replacement for CTRA and bossmods
21:28.17NeronixDoesn't look that good tbh
21:28.29CIA-1103kyahx 07otravi * r5013 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/ (otravi_UnitFrames.lua textures/striped.tga): oUF2 : Added 'Striped' texture.
21:28.39wereHamsterwhether it's functional or not is another story..
21:28.51Kyahxoh wait, I've seen RDX in some screenshots
21:29.21KyahxHas some nice concepts atleast.  Grouping people by "Healers", "Ranged DPS" etc...
21:30.48ToastTheifI wish people would actually say what their addons do in the tocs
21:31.11ckknight_I do :-P
21:31.12ToastTheif"Find the black sheeps in your raid!" doesn't tell me much
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21:32.41KyahxI *believe* BlackSheep is for buff-scanning.
21:32.53CIA-1103neriak * r5014 10Paparazzi/ (. Bindings.xml Paparazzi.lua Paparazzi.toc libs/): Paparazzi - updated to Ace2
21:33.05ToastTheifSome addons like DuctTape don't offer any explantion in the toc at all hmm
21:33.41AmadeoWhat's Paparazzi? Something with screenshots? lol
21:34.19ToastTheifI think it auto hides your interface when you take a ss
21:34.45Amadeocool
21:36.21ToastTheifanyone know waht Sheppard is?
21:37.19ToastTheifSwitchBoard sounds intresting
21:42.42KyahxSwitchBoard isnt very functional
21:42.58Kyahxatleast I didnt find it to be
21:51.30KebinusanNeronix, I think its pretty nice
21:51.40Kebinusanthe rdx thing
21:52.04Kebinusanthough, it seems to have some memory issues, 30kib increasing while idle .. I was getting
21:52.10Kyahxwow
21:52.17Kebinusanbut its got sync code, fairly flexible boss mod structure
21:52.17Kyahxtime to steal the idea and Ace it!
21:52.21Kyahxhehe
21:52.28Kyahxwell, so does BigWigs :P
21:52.31Kebinusanand the interface is pretty creative
21:52.32kergothmorning
21:52.46Kebinusanhttp://www.simplicity-guild.com/Updates/RDXSS.png
21:52.50Kebinusanhere is a screenshot I took earlier
21:53.02Kyahxhow did you even get ahold if it BTW?
21:53.08KyahxI can't find a link anywhere
21:53.16Kebinusanit was on rnd forums
21:53.37Kyahxrnd?
21:53.45Kebinusanhttp://files.filefront.com/RDXzip/;5259775;;/fileinfo.html
21:53.48Kebinusanraids and dungeons
21:54.56KebinusanAnyway, the little stopwatch widget is pretty nice IMO... theres a centerscreen alert frame, and a timer frame... you can move bars between the frames at specific intervals so that timers become more intrusive as the events occur.
21:55.20Kebinusansome of the boss modules are fairly complex and create windows showing things like number of frost spells/frost damage on viscidus
21:55.39hasteKyahx: :OOOOOO
21:55.50KyahxUgly or good?
21:55.53Kyahxlol
21:55.58MikmaKebinusan: what's the fuzz about that addon
21:56.49Kebinusanthe fuzz is that it was developed privately for use by a few specific guilds.. it got released a while back then they decided to pull it or something
21:57.10Kyahxwhy spend that much time deving something to not release it?
21:57.32KebinusanI dont know, but it has pretty good RPC code for syncing and quite a few other interesting elements
21:57.53KyahxWhat all does it sync?
21:58.06KyahxJust boss mod stuff?  What else would even *need* to be syncd
21:58.38Kebinusanwell boss events
21:58.46Kebinusanthere is an interesting buff/debuff system
21:58.56KyahxIm loading it up right now to see
21:59.07Kebinusanyou can setup layouts per boss event
21:59.21Kebinusanso if you wanted to see all groups on Boss X, but only groups 1 3 and 5 on boss Y
21:59.23Kebinusanyou could do that
21:59.45Kebinusanthere are alot of very nice elements to it imo
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22:01.20Wobin*cough*
22:01.26WobinSwitchboard is -anything- but functional =P
22:01.45WobinThe only thing that kinda worked was the tab dragging
22:01.57WobinAnd I think I've redone it better in PlowKing anyway
22:03.19Kyahxhaste: I have some questions on how MainTanks work with oRA/CTRA
22:03.33WobinAnd that black sheep mod?
22:03.47WobinI think it finds people in your raids who -don't- have a buff or something
22:03.55Mikmaag`: c'mon start your coding!
22:03.55KyahxWobin: I think BlackSheep is a buff scanning mod.
22:04.09ag`Mikma: yeah... about time now, raids are done
22:04.15ag`I won head of onyxia xD
22:04.19hyperChipmunkplowking blows!
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22:04.35Mikmaag`: gz :D
22:04.41ckknighthyperChipmunk, hrm?
22:04.46ag`is it any good for a priest ? >.<
22:05.03Mikmaag`: i won't have the time to celebrate the code much, since my account has been frozen for 3 hours already hehe ;D
22:05.10hyperChipmunkoh, i just realized that I hadn't randomly insulted plowking for at least 2 days
22:05.13Mikmai won't logout until late night
22:05.19ag`Mikma: get credit cards :D
22:05.34Mikmaag`: nah i'll go and buy the prepaid tomorrow when stores open up
22:05.53ag`okies
22:06.28Mikmabut now i'll just continue playing without having to logout hehehe
22:06.39Mikmaand i hope i won't get any dc's either ;D
22:07.24Wobinhehe
22:07.28WobinSo desperate =)
22:07.41KyahxKebinusan: How do I move the damn windows ???
22:07.49Kebinusanshift leftclick drag
22:07.51Mikmawell my own stupidity that i didn't go and buy the card yesterday / today when the stores were open ;)
22:08.12Mikmafirst time i watched the clock it was 18:05 .. and stores did close on 18 ;)
22:09.03AmadeoIs that how it works? YOu can play forever until you are logged out somehow?
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22:11.05KyahxAmadeo: Yep, so if you ever get banned be sure to remember that before you log off with the guild's herb bank >.<
22:11.13KyahxTrue story: stupid leaders in my last guild
22:12.02MikmaAmadeo: yeah that's why i'm still in the game :)
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22:13.38Amadeohahah
22:16.30NeronixMikma: WTB stickyframes toggle
22:16.41Kebinusanhmm, wow these boss mods are kinda crazy
22:16.57KyahxKebinusan: How so?
22:17.11NeronixI've scaled my bars down, but the translucent border thing didn't scale down along with the bars --> PITA moving things :(
22:17.13MikmaNeronix: why? :P
22:17.42Neronixbasically, I can't align my frames properly without visor hax :(
22:18.01MikmaNeronix: damn :(
22:18.17AmadeoI wish Blizzard would f'ing fix inspect
22:18.19Mikmakergoth: care to help modding toggle for StickyFrames? :P
22:18.23Amadeoeach patch they break something that they'll never fix again
22:18.46kergothMikma: hmm, shouldnt stickyframes be able to handle scaling of the frames you register with it intelligently?
22:18.57KebinusanOk well take the Razuvious mod. ..  We create a frame and table that we use to track each of the understudies... does it have the debuff, is shieldwall active, is it currently charmed, if yes, by whoom, how long has it been charmed, how long until the debuff from charm breaking wears off each mob, etc
22:19.01Neronixand visor hax stops the frames from being movable :(
22:19.32Neronixkergoth: It's apparently the translucent green border thing that's registered, and it doesn't scale down with the bar itself
22:20.04kergothahhh
22:20.09kergothwell mikma, fix your capsules :)
22:20.59Neronixscaling them down along with the bars themselves would require reparenting I think
22:21.04Mikmakergoth: fix what what?
22:21.18Neronixwhich would probably break a couple of things
22:21.32kergothMikma: nero just said your green capsules that show when in move mode dont scale with the bars
22:22.07MikmaNeronix: scale down how?
22:23.43Kebinusanoh wow
22:23.48Kebinusandont look at the memory usage though
22:24.06NeronixI did it with visor on MainMenuBar (actio, bags and micros), MultiBarBottomLeft, MultiBarBottomRight, MultiBarRight and PetActionBarFrame
22:25.02Neronixstill makes them movable, but the green things, being unchanged and the frames that are sticky, make positioning properly impossible :(
22:25.20kergothNeronix: maybe mikma should just add a scale option to bartender and scale both capsule and bar?
22:25.37Kebinusanyeah Im going to have to bite the bullet kick the tires on this for a bit I think
22:26.30Mikmawell there' ain't a way to scale down the bars now so no wonder they don't scale properly..
22:26.34NeronixYeah, won't be hard
22:26.38Mikmathey DO scale nicely with you adjust UIScale
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22:28.54CIA-1103chinkuwaila * r5015 10BabbleLib/Boss/BabbleLib-Boss.lua: BigWigs (BabbleLib-Boss): updated deDE translations
22:30.25NeronixMikma: Want me to try writing it for you?
22:31.00MikmaNeronix: all yours :)
22:31.11Mikmacommit in the trunk
22:38.34MikmaNeronix: the present code in trunk has my start on the bar-swap too, but there's nothing much in yet ;)
22:39.42NeronixBarswap?
22:40.02Mikmahorizontal/vertical
22:40.10Mikmait's rather easy to do in after all
22:40.15Mikmajust SetHeight and SetWidth
22:40.42Neronixcool
22:43.32Neronixhow does slash command input work? /foo bar baz --> "bar baz" or { "bar", "baz" }?
22:43.44Mikmait doesn't :(
22:44.02hyperChipmunkdepends
22:44.44hyperChipmunkfirst one, unless you're using AceOptions with a 'text' type and have 'input=true'; in which case, they'll be sent as arguments to the function you specified
22:44.45MikmaNeronix: it needs some sort of table or so before it works
22:45.08NeronixI see
22:45.34Mikmai think cladhaire has some neat way in his code for PR, not sure tho
22:47.23Mikmaag`: PvP icon does not update when pvp goes off, it sticks around
22:47.56ag`Mikma: yes, I need to update it at the event FACTION_UPDATE
22:48.06ag`just forgot that it wasn't related to reputation
22:48.08Mikmaag`: glad you know :)
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22:54.00vhaarrFryGuy-: poke
22:55.31FryGuy-:O
22:55.45MikmaFryGuy-: hey, what were the helmets in the picture you pasted?
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23:05.27mjcthreat meters are so retarded
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23:06.20Industrialthreat meters are for people that cant fogure out whats happening in a game
23:06.27Industrialand instead rely on a list of names or numbers
23:06.32Industrialand colors
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23:06.49IndustrialOOH OOH RED OMG OMG  OMG WQHAT I DO WHAT I DO?
23:07.15Kebinusanyou should really be able to feel it by the damage you do
23:07.15vhaarrFryGuy-: Soltanis said you had a local update of the Gluth bw module, when are you planning to commit?
23:07.22kergothdangit, where'd moonwolf go
23:07.29kergothhm
23:13.40Tekkub"Wiping would about half of the time cause an error pop-up, which I foolishly didn't screeny, basically stating that some part of the Wyvern Sting bar's code was cross with me and didn't feel like cooperating further."
23:13.43TekkubI like this guy
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23:17.01hasteyay
23:17.09hasteI think my net is stable now
23:19.19Wobin* haste has timed out (Connection reset by peer)
23:20.04haste~emulate haste
23:20.05purl:---------(
23:20.21Tekkubwhat?
23:20.39ToastTheifso about the SVN
23:21.07Tekkubwhat about it?
23:21.10ToastTheifI don't mean to be a pain or anything, but the addons really do get confusing as to what they do
23:21.31Tekkubsorry, the SVN isn't a release platform ya know :P
23:21.49ToastTheifwell exactly
23:22.20ToastTheifbut the thing is half the ace authors use it as such, and don't even post a thread about their addon
23:22.26vhaarrToastTheif: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1353.msg29800.html#msg29800
23:22.35hastehalf... :<
23:22.50TekkubI don't really post threads much anymore.. they're annying to keep up with
23:23.18Tekkubif people don' submit to my portal I'm likly to forget their bug, period
23:23.33Tekkubportal == goes onto todo list automatically
23:23.38vhaarrwowace should get a bugzilla
23:23.39ToastTheifI don't even see a few of your addons on your portal Tekk ;)
23:23.47Tekkubforum == I forget it once we're on the next page
23:24.02Tekkubyou can still submit under "miscellaneous"
23:24.27vhaarrFryGuy-: if you don't I'll have to try to cook something up myself, and I know it'll be messy :P
23:24.39TekkubI've taken a liking to the talk page on the wiki as well
23:24.46Tekkubbut noone wants to talk there
23:24.48ToastTheifI understand the whole bug thing
23:25.01ToastTheifbut Im talking about the end-user here trying to figure out what your addon does
23:25.11CIA-1103chinkuwaila * r5016 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Noth.lua: BigWigs (Noth): corrected German message for his back teleport to have it announce how long he's gonna stay downstairs (thx to Sirian for pointing this out)
23:25.22Tekkub"end users" don't belong on the wiki :P
23:25.34Tekkubs/wiki/svn/
23:25.42hastethe end user doesn't belong at the SVN either :p
23:25.48ToastTheifthere are a LOT of addons on the SVN that just have a lua and toc and no explanation in either
23:25.59vhaarrToastTheif: did you read that link?
23:26.04ToastTheifyeah
23:26.12hasteand some of those addon might never be ment to be released also
23:26.18ToastTheifI know more about addons than the average end user and all
23:26.22Tekkub<PROTECTED>
23:26.29ToastTheifbut even programmers can't read minds
23:26.41Tekkubbut programmers CAN read code ^^
23:26.44vhaarrToastTheif: point is that the SVN is not for end users at all, it's for developers, and developers can read code.
23:26.54hasteotravi_UnitFrames in the trunk is a example
23:26.59NeronixI include as good a description as I can fit in the notes field at least
23:27.09NeronixAnd an extended proper one on mod sites
23:27.17TekkubI include a description in every TOC!
23:27.22ToastTheifmy point is the authors use it like a realse site
23:27.30hasteWhat authors?
23:27.30TekkubI just... don't always remember to change what I copy/pated from
23:27.32ToastTheifrelease*
23:27.35hastemay I ask :p
23:27.46NeronixAnd another little one in the header of the core files of my addons
23:27.48Tekkubwell 90% of my work is SVN-only
23:27.48kergothToastTheif: hm? just about every author releases to wowi when its ready for release.
23:27.58Tekkubbut 90% of my work isn't release-quality
23:28.08ToastTheifI'll go and find specific examples if I really must
23:28.16kergothwoot, my microphone works both in linux and under windows emulation in linux
23:28.25TekkubI don't write mods for users, I write mods for me and share them with those willing to tinker with em
23:28.26hasteyay ;D
23:28.47kergothsound in linux is still a damn mess
23:28.57vhaarris CandyBar ready for use yet?
23:29.05vhaarrI seem to remember someone saying it bugged alot
23:29.08ToastTheifokay by end user Im not really talking people straight off the wowforums
23:29.10Tekkubyou know, I'm beginning to think Linux is like my cat
23:29.27Mikmadon't drink cider, it gets into your head really fast
23:29.29Tekkubit's cute, everyone likes it, but it's like pulling teeth to get it to actually do anything useful
23:29.29ToastTheifIm talking about people that hang around here, and the forums and see what you and others are working on
23:29.31ag`_kergoth, my audigy1 from 5 years ago seems pretty stable
23:29.33Tekkub*snicker*
23:29.37kergothToastTheif: if the addon isnt released, you take what you get. if it isnt up to your standards, its your own damn fault
23:29.41kergothperiod.
23:29.54vhaarrToastTheif: don't expect anything, you're getting it all for free
23:29.57kergothag`_: i mean the apis and such, not the drivers themselves.
23:30.00kergothag`_: case in point
23:30.05hasteToastTheif: trust me on this, I _hate_ releasing addons :p
23:30.16hasteI just do it since people ask me if I could share it
23:30.20Tekkubsame here, users suck they always want me to fix shit
23:30.29kergothag`_: if your sound card doesnt support harddware mixing, you can only play one sound at a time, unless you set up alsa to use dmix,a nd then call all your apps that use oss with the 'aoss' command
23:30.33Tekkuband I'm already off on my latest neat concept trying to make it work :)
23:30.49ToastTheifIm not demanding it or anything it was just a suggestion and Im trying to back my suggestion up
23:30.55ag`_kergoth, but isn't OSS dying
23:31.01ag`_I don't see any programs using OSS anymore
23:31.05hasteOSS is deprecated
23:31.08hasteso, yes
23:31.12vhaarrslowly
23:31.15hastebut who uses OSS anyway :< ?
23:31.18ag`_everything's alsa nowadays
23:31.20kergothi have about 10 apps i run every day that use oss.
23:31.21vhaarrlots of things
23:31.28ag`_which ones?
23:31.32kergothwine still uses oss by default, the last.fm player uses oss, etc
23:31.38Tekkubtake for example Cork, I know it's incomplete, I know it's atad buggy, but I don't have a heal/buff class to play every night so I don't get around to fixing it... I _DO_ have raids every other night or so, so bigwigs is something I can activly test
23:31.42vhaarrTeamSpeak uses OSS
23:31.54kergothcedega can use alsa, but its alsa support doesnt get hooked by dmix correctly afaik, cause it monopolizes my sound card despite my settings
23:32.03AmadeoHey! What's OSS? :)
23:32.07ToastTheifIm not talking about bugs or the actual addon at all
23:32.17TekkubI know TT
23:32.17hasteAmadeo: Open Sound System I believe
23:32.18ag`_open sound system I think
23:32.21Amadeoohh
23:32.25Amadeowhat does Ventrilo use?
23:32.27ToastTheifIm talking about a one time thing where you give one sentence, maybe two
23:32.28vhaarrAmadeo: linux sound system, and yes, it's open sound system.
23:32.30kergothvent is a windows app.
23:32.31vhaarrAmadeo: this is linux only
23:32.34Amadeoahh
23:32.38vhaarrTS doesn't use OSS on win32
23:32.43ag`_there's no vent for linux
23:32.47Mikmaag`_: fix it fix iiiit ;)
23:32.49TekkubI'm just saying, some of the shit on the SVN is a 10-min "I had an idea and the fucking server is down" kinda mod
23:32.50vhaarryet
23:32.53ag`_guess you could run through wine
23:32.54Tekkub*points at Squeenix*
23:32.54AmadeoWhy don't they make TS sound quality as good as Vent anyway?
23:33.01vhaarrag`_: yes you can, I do that
23:33.05ag`_Mikma, position saving pisses me off :D
23:33.06vhaarrag`_: works perfectly
23:33.07kergothag`_: you can, i do so as wel
23:33.13kergothwas a pain in the ass for me
23:33.19vhaarrno problem here :o
23:33.19Mikmaag`_: position not saving pisses me off :D
23:33.22kergothi have a usb mic and onboard out audio
23:33.26kergothwhich means two dsp devices
23:33.27vhaarrah lol
23:33.29hyperChipmunkLinux Vent is "Coming Soon"
23:33.30ag`_vhaarr, what?
23:33.33hyperChipmunk...for the last three years
23:33.35vhaarrag`_: what what?
23:33.38ag`_kergoth, what?
23:33.40ToastTheifpersonally I've seen just about every addon on the SVN at one point, I just cant remember what they all do
23:33.43AmadeoI hate Vent, except for the sound quality
23:33.44kergothtwo sound drivers.
23:33.48kergothtwo /dev/dsp devices
23:33.54ToastTheifand to find out what they all do if it doesn't say in the toc.. is a pain
23:34.06vhaarrToastTheif: learn lua then, maybe you can find out
23:34.09hasteToastTheif: I still want a example of what addons / authors that use the SVN as a release function ;)
23:34.09kergothand i want one of those dsp devices to use dmix for audio out..
23:34.11kergothjust a mess.
23:34.17kergothsomething windows does without breaking a sweat
23:34.20kergothits pathetic
23:34.21ToastTheifI have learned lua..
23:34.22ag`_I wouldn't mind a database in the wiki containing a small description for each addon
23:34.34hyperChipmunkag`_: knock yourself out =)
23:34.37kergothToastTheif: if it isnt released, you're on your own.
23:34.39kergothToastTheif: deal with it.
23:34.43Neronixnow to get it to save
23:34.44Amadeokergoth: I have onboard audio and a DSP built into the line of my headset, hehe
23:34.45Tekkubpeople just have to write up wiki pages and tag them with the right category
23:34.52ToastTheifas soon as I get my Baskilisk Brain I'll show you an example ><
23:34.58kergothAmadeo: ah nice, i dont have a headset, just this logitech usb mic
23:35.01ag`_hyperChipmunk, I would add a description of my addon, and so could everyone else do, and all of a sudden every addon is listed there
23:35.04Tekkubshould we make a push to get everyone to spend some time on the wiki?
23:35.09Mikmaag`_: the "warrior joins party" bug should be fixed too )
23:35.11Mikma;)
23:35.13TekkubI need to update my shit and get some API docs up
23:35.18Amadeokergoth: It's a great headset for sound quality, but it's so cheaply made that they break easily
23:35.29ag`_Mikma, I don't know what the fuck is up with that bug ^_^
23:35.40Tekkubhell maybe we can move addon threads to the wikitalk pages instead :)
23:35.49hastenoes!
23:35.52hasteI like forums :(
23:35.56vhaarrdo you think converting AceTimer to Ace2 would be a good project now? I need to code something to learn Ace.
23:36.03Tekkubyou tried the wikitalk pages?
23:36.04AmadeoI wish TS had better sound quality, because I think it blows Ventrilo away in every other category
23:36.10hasteTekkub: partly
23:36.35TekkubI don't like forums cause shit gets lost 30 pages in and people don't read the thread
23:36.50hasteTekkub: the oRA thread is a good example =\
23:36.51Tekkubwith a talk page you can prune out the old unnedded topics and such
23:36.53vhaarrmailinglists ftw
23:37.00TekkuboRA needs split up already
23:37.04hasteI know
23:37.07TekkubI got us a raid forum for BW and oRA
23:37.21hastebut I'll have to write lots of pages of text then
23:37.33hastefor an addon I can't test myself the next couple of weeks
23:37.33Tekkubnah you don't
23:37.35Tekkub:P
23:37.41ToastTheifIm not suggesting everyone spend time writting stuff, but I am suggestion that in the "standards" thread that is some where on the Ace forums, one of the suggestions standards might be to include some helpful info in the toc
23:37.46Tekkub"Molten core stuf goes here"
23:37.57Tekkubseriously look at all my irst topics :)
23:38.04Tekkubgah typing > me
23:38.07hasteI've seen it Tekkub
23:38.11hasteand it's nice
23:38.39Mikmaag`_: me neither :P
23:38.40hasteI could do it as quick and dirty as that :<
23:38.47Mikmaag`_: but you do remember the screenshot?
23:38.49ToastTheifwhen I first joined the Ace community shortly after it was created by Turan it was all about sharing code and what not, just makes sense to me at least that we try to make that sharing easier
23:39.02ag`_Mikma, like what line the error is on?
23:39.05ag`_yes
23:39.08kergothvhaarr: i think thatd be a good project, yes.  could use the new candybars lib for the bars, probably
23:39.08ag`_I know where it is
23:39.16ag`_but I odn't know why the fuck it happens
23:39.22TekkubTT, start getting people onto the wiki them
23:39.26kergothvhaarr: and make sure it can show a timer for kidney shot, dangit. acetimer doesn tshow that :\
23:39.28vhaarrkergoth: thinking the same thing
23:39.32Tekkubonly ckk and I put addon pages up right now
23:39.34vhaarr:P
23:39.40hyperChipmunkToastTheif: we share our code; you can figure out what stuff does basically by watching commit notes
23:39.40Tekkuband his are all API docs
23:39.42ckknight_what what?
23:39.52Tekkubshoe you
23:40.01hyperChipmunkmost people include the description of the addon with the initial import comment
23:40.12TekkubI already told him that hC
23:40.17Tekkubhe just chittered at me
23:40.18hyperChipmunkoh
23:40.29ToastTheifIm not trying to be an ass at all
23:40.30TekkubI'm hungry...
23:40.39ToastTheifIm just trying to suggest something
23:40.41TekkubTT, get people on the wiki, simplest solution
23:40.49Tekkubforum threads are meh
23:40.49ag`_just add a page on the wiki with an empty table in it
23:40.52hyperChipmunkI just suggested a solution
23:40.56Tekkubpeople might not want discussion
23:41.09Tekkubbut wiki will give description and optional chat
23:41.14ToastTheifIm not quite sure what Commit Notes are
23:41.16hyperChipmunkif you can't be bothered to type 'svn log' to see what an addon does, then don't come to us telling us WE should change
23:41.36Tekkubhttp://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/log/
23:41.41Tekkub^ Commit notes ^
23:42.01Tekkubyou can pull a revision log on any folder via the webSVN
23:42.24ToastTheifearlier in the day I was in here asking if there was a way to see what an addon does, no one mention commit notes so I came up with a suggestion
23:42.56Tekkub-
23:42.58Tekkubgah
23:43.05TekkubI'll say it one more time...
23:43.09hyperChipmunkcuz asking a question like that won't get you an answer
23:43.10Tekkubwiki wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki
23:43.13ag`_Mikma, can bartender do padding between buttons yet ^_^
23:43.17kergothif it isnt released, the developers have -zero- obligation to those who use it
23:43.19Mikmaag`_: nope
23:43.25ag`_argh :)
23:43.26ToastTheifKergoth
23:43.27kergothwhy people dont get this, ill never understand
23:43.39ToastTheifI heard you the first time, I've known that since I started programming
23:43.42Mikmaag`_: after i manage to do dewdrop support in then it should be rather easy
23:43.43hyperChipmunkwe're not here to answer addon questions
23:43.49ag`_Mikma, ok
23:43.52kergothif you want to know what it does, go look into it yourself or await a release
23:44.03ag`_Dewdrop/AceOptions is going to be hell for me too
23:44.06Tekkubor ask about that one addon
23:44.26Tekkubexample: "<Me> WTF is AuldLangSine?"
23:44.26ag`_I miss a detailed example on how to init a slash system in ace2
23:44.32hyperChipmunkif you have a specific question about one of our addons, then ask it, but there are better places to go to ask general questions like, 'how does addon wurk?'
23:45.01hasteWUT IS <Insert Addon>?
23:45.13kergothag`_: witchhunt is a decent example of an aceoptions table.. not a huge number of options, but a couple different types.  the api docs should make it fairly clear
23:45.27ag`_kergoth, thanks
23:45.29hyperChipmunkbulkmail is a decent option too
23:45.34NeronixMikma: Almost done! ^^
23:45.38hyperChipmunkI even have a subgroup
23:45.43MikmaNeronix: cool :)
23:45.52ag`_kergoth, and dewdrop takes aceoptions tables right?
23:45.58hyperChipmunkdd2 does
23:46.07hasteag`_: dewdrop-2.0 does
23:46.07ToastTheifI don't see why you all are yelling at me for a suggestion about toc files
23:46.16ToastTheifIm not demanding you do it at all
23:46.18ag`_haste, yep
23:46.24haste'cause most of us here does it
23:46.31Tekkubwe're just telling you that the SVN is offered "as-is"
23:46.31hasteIt's only Tem whose lazy :p
23:46.56hyperChipmunkyea, you don't get to complain about our svn
23:47.01Tekkubwell I often copy/paste and forget to change it
23:47.09Tekkubbut if people point it out I usually fix it
23:47.23vhaarrFor any AuldLangSyne users out here: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1668.msg30605.html#msg30605
23:47.43hyperChipmunkinsult a programmer, all is good; insult his tools, and prepare to be flamed mercilessly
23:47.50ToastTheifIm just going to be quiet before I say something that will really upset you all
23:47.55kergothag`_: yeah.  you can install deucecommander if you want, it creates a big dewdrop that includes the aceoptions/aceconsole from all the ace2 addons with them.  thatll let you see how your aceconsole setup will look visually, wihtout having to set up your dewdrop right away
23:48.12kergothone step at a time
23:48.15ToastTheifI made a simple SUGGESTION, I didn't expect to get flamed for it
23:48.18*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
23:48.25ag`_kergoth, sounds cool
23:49.02Tekkubyou said "hey you should do this" and we said "use at your own risk" and then you said "but but..." and then here we are now :P
23:49.10kergothToastTheif: the point is, you arent in a position to expect anything. the addons are offered as is. if at some point they get released, then you'll be in a position to say something about its state
23:49.19kergothbut until then, i think not
23:49.23hyperChipmunkand you also said, 'gee back when ace started it was about sharing code' as if we don't do that
23:49.58Tekkubheh, yea sharing code is, "oh yea hC I wrote up a little something that does that... *commits*"
23:50.00hyperChipmunkyou don't get much share-ier than open svn
23:50.02ToastTheifit still is as far as Im concerned
23:50.03kergoththats a load of crap. the addon development is far more open now that we have svn than it ever was in the beginning
23:50.07vhaarrToastTheif: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#keepcool
23:50.12vhaarrToastTheif: read the first paragraph there
23:50.17vhaarrToastTheif: then read the rest of the essay
23:50.32hyperChipmunkyea, I was too lazy to dig up the link =)
23:50.42vhaarrI have it bookmarked :(
23:50.44ckknightesr's funny
23:50.45hyperChipmunkthat ought to be in the topic next to pil
23:50.49Tekkubyea when I came in and said "oh I wrote this mod and it's here" half the people in the room go "oh god I don't download there, release it here"
23:50.50ToastTheifIm not here to get lectured or read a paper
23:50.57ckknighthe has a lot of good stuff to say
23:50.59Tekkubnoone does that with the SVN :)
23:51.01vhaarrToastTheif: then you have nothing to do here
23:51.04ckknightToastTheif, then please don't lecture us.
23:51.11ToastTheifIm not..
23:51.15ToastTheifI asked a question
23:51.21hyperChipmunknot saying anything about him in general, but that essay is spot on
23:51.27Tekkuband we gave an answer!
23:51.28vhaarrhC: indeed
23:51.33vhaarrToastTheif should read it anywya.
23:51.34Mikmacalm down bastards
23:51.38Tekkubwhy are we still lingering on that answer?
23:51.44Mikmaeat some soup and be happy
23:51.47kergothToastTheif: if you cant be bothered to learn how to ask questions of developers without running into problems, you shouldnt be here.
23:51.52kergothhmm, soup
23:51.59hastedamn you!
23:52.03hastenow I'm hungry :(
23:52.12TekkubI was already hungry
23:52.21hyperChipmunkTekkub: you should make your variable names more descriptive
23:52.22Mikmaserves you right, noobbashing mofos!
23:52.24hyperChipmunkbecause I said so
23:52.25vhaarryou made me feel like making vegetable soup with sausagebits
23:52.26ToastTheifI don't even know why Im getting yelled at
23:52.33ToastTheifI said okay to your suggestions
23:52.41vhaarrToastTheif: read that paragraph
23:52.47Tekkubdon't make me whip out the single char vars on your ass
23:52.48vhaarrToastTheif: and you'll see that you're NOT getting yelled ayt
23:53.12AmadeoTekkub yells at me :(
23:53.21hasteTekkub always yells
23:53.22MikmaAmadeo: it's just the way he talks ;)
23:53.24Amadeohahaha
23:53.34hyperChipmunkif you were getting yelled at, it'd be 'bugger off, newb' not 'here's where you can find the answers you seek'
23:53.38TekkubTT: we're pissy cause this convo doesn't seem to be going anywhere... we settled the matter what, 10 min ago, but we're still dwelling over our attitude or something :P
23:53.50Tekkub<PROTECTED>
23:53.54vhaarrhC: 2slow
23:53.56vhaarr:P
23:54.07hastewhat game?
23:54.08hyperChipmunkcan we insult tekkub now?
23:54.12vhaarrTEH game
23:54.15ckknightyea
23:54.18ckknightlet's all insult Tek!
23:54.18haste;O
23:54.21kergoth~insult Tekkub
23:54.23kergoth:D
23:54.23hyperChipmunktekkub yOU aRe tEH sUX
23:54.35ckknightTekkub, you're a towel.
23:54.47hasteI think purl did most of the hard work.
23:54.51vhaarrwherever you go in the galaxy, always bring Tekkub ?
23:54.53Tekkubthis girl at work has these big furry balls
23:54.59TekkubI got to hold them
23:55.09Tekkubmy boss enjoyed rubbing them on her face
23:55.13MikmaTekkub: your have a hairy butt
23:55.31kergoth~rinsult
23:55.36kergothaw
23:55.39kergothyay
23:56.02hyperChipmunkA Tekkub is about the most massively useful thing in the galaxy.
23:56.11hasterinsult?
23:56.15hasteoh... random kek
23:56.20hyperChipmunki think they're all random
23:56.21hyperChipmunkoh
23:56.23vhaarrhaha
23:56.25vhaarr:P
23:56.27hyperChipmunkmaybe insult someone at random
23:56.32hyperChipmunkthat would be great
23:56.33vhaarrdouble "oh"
23:56.37haste~rpoke
23:56.41haste:(
23:56.43ckknightyour retarded.
23:56.47kergoth~rinsult
23:56.51hyperChipmunkyou can't speel
23:56.59ckknightthanks for catching the irony.
23:57.00hyperChipmunkthere ya go
23:57.09hyperChipmunkright back atcha
23:58.20Soltanismooo
23:58.23Mikmaare you happy now, you made TT sad panda
23:59.04hyperChipmunkmeh, he didn't have to be; he only is because he tried really hard to make it happen
23:59.28AmadeoHe's telling all his friends that Ace sucks now!

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