| 00:00.01 | kergoth | but i never got around to it (*gasp*) |
| 00:00.14 | Tekcub | just manages hex and RGB colors... look at how BW's colors are handled right now.... |
| 00:00.23 | Tekcub | I'm just gonna drop that out to a lib and add the hex stuff to it |
| 00:00.29 | Tekcub | and the class and loot colors :) |
| 00:01.03 | Tem | woot |
| 00:01.05 | Tem | time to go home |
| 00:01.06 | hyperChipmunk | hyperPaintChip |
| 00:01.09 | Tekcub | I hate people declaring tables and passing em as args for RGB |
| 00:01.11 | kergoth | Gngsk: its great, especially when coupled with a nice irc proxy like 'bip', so all your messaging is logged and kept running in one place, independent of irc client |
| 00:01.27 | kergoth | Gngsk: it supports stripping html out of the messages, if they have it, even |
| 00:04.30 | ckknight | okay, figured out how to make items and all that work |
| 00:04.35 | ckknight | for AceConsole input = true |
| 00:04.43 | hyperChipmunk | woo |
| 00:05.19 | ckknight | slightly hackish |
| 00:05.45 | ckknight | okay, it gsubs item links replacing the internal spaces with \001 |
| 00:05.51 | ckknight | until it can't anymore |
| 00:06.01 | ckknight | then it splits up items that are connected |
| 00:06.10 | ckknight | then tokenizes by spaces |
| 00:06.16 | ckknight | then turns \001 into " " |
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| 00:07.37 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke 07joshborke * r4084 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (4 files): |
| 00:07.38 | CIA-7 | HealWatch: |
| 00:07.38 | CIA-7 | - fixed the targeting issues (almost positive) |
| 00:07.38 | CIA-7 | - got prayer of healing working |
| 00:07.38 | CIA-7 | - no errors during MC |
| 00:07.38 | CIA-7 | - still some bugs with the background |
| 00:09.19 | Tuplad | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/ag_Themes.lua wth ? ag_UF is for MG2 only? |
| 00:09.52 | ag` | no |
| 00:10.04 | ag` | It's me that didn't rewrite the description in that file |
| 00:10.22 | Tuplad | aah :) |
| 00:10.22 | Tuplad | k |
| 00:10.26 | Tuplad | ag, got a screenie ? :D |
| 00:10.47 | ag` | There's not much to see yet |
| 00:11.06 | ag` | it draws a simple player and target window with a grey health and mana bar |
| 00:11.55 | Tuplad | sounds sexy to me |
| 00:12.24 | ag` | heh it's not for use yet |
| 00:12.49 | Tuplad | :( |
| 00:13.04 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 00:13.04 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 00:13.10 | ag` | it *can* be used, but there's not much point as it's quite limited |
| 00:13.19 | Tem | fucking laptop batteries |
| 00:13.48 | Tuplad | =D |
| 00:13.59 | Tem | this one is completely dead |
| 00:14.04 | Tem | won't charge at all |
| 00:14.18 | ag` | hmm my laptop battery is 2 years old now |
| 00:14.23 | Tem | this one too |
| 00:14.36 | ag` | mine works fine though |
| 00:15.09 | ag` | a bit slow though |
| 00:15.15 | ag` | 1.5ghz G4 |
| 00:17.56 | Mikma | slow my ass :P |
| 00:18.01 | Mikma | i got 1.2GHz G4 |
| 00:18.14 | ag` | Well it locks up too much >:-( |
| 00:18.27 | ag` | I should upgrade to OS 10.4 |
| 00:18.38 | ag` | I lost my CD though |
| 00:19.23 | *** join/#wowace Tem_ (i=tardmrr@ip70-177-39-212.br.br.cox.net) |
| 00:19.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem_] by ChanServ |
| 00:19.29 | hyperChipmunk | mmmmm |
| 00:19.35 | hyperChipmunk | BulkMail ace2ified |
| 00:21.20 | Tuplad | someone here should make a dmg meter without all that crap like sync etc etc, just a simple DMG meter of the whole group and easy switching between healing and dmg |
| 00:21.55 | hyperChipmunk | how much you offering? |
| 00:22.06 | ag` | It would make a good FuBar module |
| 00:22.43 | Codayus | Tuplad: Without sync it'll lose a lot of effectiveness in many situations... |
| 00:22.53 | clad|sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.04 | Tuplad | Codayus: why is that ? |
| 00:23.07 | Tuplad | I never used it =] |
| 00:23.47 | Codayus | Tuplad: Damage meter runs off your combat log, and the combat log only "sees" events nearby. In, say, an Onyxia fight, you'll only have half the raid showing up on the meters. |
| 00:24.59 | Codayus | <shrug> In some sitations that's not really a problem though. |
| 00:25.19 | Tuplad | yea |
| 00:25.23 | Tuplad | I dont go onyxia |
| 00:25.25 | Tuplad | so I dont care :p |
| 00:25.33 | Tuplad | but well |
| 00:25.39 | Tuplad | damagemeters look butt ugly |
| 00:25.44 | Codayus | It does. |
| 00:25.56 | Codayus | That interface should have been drug out into the street and shot. oO |
| 00:26.14 | Codayus | I like SW_stats a fair bit. The interface isn't a vast improvement, but it's not quite so ugly. |
| 00:27.09 | Codayus | Recap is really nice and very slick, but it doesn't sync. Not sure if it still works either...haven't looked at it in a few patches. |
| 00:27.55 | FryGuy | only thing I don't like about syncing is it seems like every single attack gets sent over the sync chan |
| 00:28.39 | FryGuy | when it could use more of a buffering thing to only send out updates every 10 seconds or so, and use the combat log to fill up until then |
| 00:29.21 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4085 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - properly handles item links |
| 00:29.22 | Tuplad | imo |
| 00:29.24 | Tuplad | recap has too much functions |
| 00:29.28 | Codayus | FryGuy: A valid point. Are you volunteering? :-) |
| 00:29.30 | Tuplad | just give me damage meters |
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| 00:29.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+o tardmrr] by ChanServ |
| 00:29.41 | Tuplad | #1 / [Class Icon] Name / Damage |
| 00:29.43 | FryGuy | heh no :( |
| 00:30.05 | ckknight | tardmrr, why is there Tem, Tem_, and tardmrr? |
| 00:30.33 | tardmrr | because I screwed up my wireless settings and went afk for 10 minutes |
| 00:32.03 | Tuplad | anyone tried id UF yet ? :p |
| 00:32.12 | hyperChipmunk | should I just set empty functions for get and set of an AceConsole of type 'group'? |
| 00:34.25 | hyperChipmunk | afk dinner |
| 00:34.59 | FryGuy | is id the one that was saying he liked my unitframes? :p |
| 00:35.47 | Tuplad | idUnitFrames |
| 00:38.29 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, if you do, they won't do anything |
| 00:38.34 | ckknight | group doesn't use get/set |
| 00:39.33 | clad|sleep | ckknight: Did you remove the ability to tokenize and validate() an infinite number of arguments? It looks like it has to all be done manually in a single tyupe=string, validate function |
| 00:40.08 | ckknight | only type = 'text' has validate |
| 00:40.15 | clad|sleep | tyhats what i meant |
| 00:40.18 | ckknight | but if you set input = true, it splits up |
| 00:40.31 | clad|sleep | when i did that today it only ran validate on the first argument. |
| 00:40.40 | clad|sleep | is that intended? |
| 00:40.50 | ckknight | no |
| 00:40.53 | clad|sleep | ok |
| 00:40.55 | ckknight | I'll look into it |
| 00:40.58 | ckknight | actually |
| 00:41.05 | ckknight | yea, I'll look into it |
| 00:42.58 | FryGuy | Industrial = id? |
| 00:43.14 | ckknight | yes |
| 00:43.20 | ckknight | = indie |
| 00:43.28 | FryGuy | are there screenshots of idunitframes? |
| 00:44.13 | CIA-7 | 03cladhaire * r4086 10Clique/ (Clique.lua Clique.xml CliqueOptions.lua CliqueUtils.lua): |
| 00:44.13 | CIA-7 | Clique: |
| 00:44.13 | CIA-7 | * Fix for the spellbook issue, the spellbook parser was running too early |
| 00:44.13 | CIA-7 | * Moved the initialization data to PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 00:44.13 | CIA-7 | * Removed some old code for ranks from CliqueOptions |
| 00:44.18 | Industrial | FryGuy: yes in the dev forum |
| 00:44.26 | Industrial | FryGuy: yes im id |
| 00:44.27 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:45.11 | Industrial | FryGuy: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1634.0.html |
| 00:45.16 | Industrial | FryGuy: its only one frame atm |
| 00:45.33 | Industrial | im kinda lazy now to code |
| 00:45.34 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:46.15 | FryGuy | oh that one |
| 00:46.29 | FryGuy | you were saying you liked my unitframes right? :p |
| 00:46.58 | Industrial | yes |
| 00:47.01 | Industrial | and that i'd make my own |
| 00:47.02 | Industrial | :D |
| 00:48.52 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: when I put group, it gives me an error if there isn't a get/set field |
| 00:48.59 | hyperChipmunk | for all but the base |
| 00:49.05 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:49.09 | ckknight | pastebin it |
| 00:49.13 | ckknight | I'll reproduce |
| 00:51.30 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4087 10OneBank/ (OneBank.lua OneBank.xml): OneBank - More complete bank support, still has some bugs. |
| 00:51.49 | Tuplad | go ka-e-lten, go ka-e-lten ! |
| 00:51.52 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4088 10OneCore/templates.xml: OneCore - Cleanup |
| 00:53.18 | FryGuy | hmm crap |
| 00:53.25 | FryGuy | i forgot how to get the minimap button back on bigwigs :/ |
| 00:57.55 | Kaelten | OneBank is buggy some... hrm |
| 01:00.21 | kergoth | ckknight, you get my messages regarding acedb? |
| 01:00.28 | ckknight | no |
| 01:01.14 | hyperChipmunk | argh, I can't figure out how to fit bulkmail into the AceOptions model |
| 01:03.08 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, you do realize you still haven't pastebinned like I asked you to |
| 01:03.17 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 01:03.26 | hyperChipmunk | I'm trying not to make myself look ignorant first |
| 01:03.43 | hyperChipmunk | because I know there's some stuff I'm doing wrong =) |
| 01:05.02 | hyperChipmunk | I can't do an execute with arguments? |
| 01:05.03 | kergoth | ckknight, the behavior of SetProfile and self.profile needs to be documented -much- better, and i'd argue that the arguments for SetProfile should be changed. i floundered not knowing how the hell it worked for a while earlier |
| 01:05.10 | kergoth | until i finally got it |
| 01:05.22 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:05.44 | ckknight | self.db.profile, you mean |
| 01:05.51 | kergoth | yeah, that |
| 01:06.03 | ckknight | why do the arguments need to be changed? |
| 01:06.09 | kergoth | it isnt clear from the docs that "class/Warlock" sets your profile to class, then copies from warlock. |
| 01:06.13 | kergoth | because you're crossing namespaces |
| 01:06.23 | kergoth | i cant create a profile called 'char', due to it being handled specially, for one |
| 01:06.40 | kergoth | i'd say two args at a minimum, profile to set, and what to copy from |
| 01:08.02 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:08.07 | ckknight | that works for me |
| 01:10.09 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.ca/80080 |
| 01:13.15 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, why didn't you set a type for autosend? |
| 01:13.32 | hyperChipmunk | it's type=group |
| 01:13.43 | hyperChipmunk | # |
| 01:13.43 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.43 | hyperChipmunk | # |
| 01:13.43 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.43 | hyperChipmunk | # |
| 01:13.48 | ckknight | nvm |
| 01:13.52 | ckknight | couldn't see it |
| 01:14.08 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that funky syntax hilighting |
| 01:14.43 | ckknight | putting it on one line... |
| 01:14.44 | Tekcub | someone from <Ace> just tried to duel me... |
| 01:15.03 | Tem | BY FIRE BE PURGED |
| 01:16.06 | gnorlish | lfg non-blown up server |
| 01:17.16 | ckknight | oh |
| 01:17.23 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, _that's_ your problem |
| 01:17.39 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, for clear, do get = false |
| 01:17.47 | hyperChipmunk | ohhhhh |
| 01:18.57 | hyperChipmunk | is using 'set' correct for that other stuff? It gives me a generic 'set' feedback string that really doesn't apply to what I'm using it for |
| 01:19.29 | hyperChipmunk | like, I don't want to set an 'add' value |
| 01:19.39 | hyperChipmunk | I want to do an 'add' function with the arguments supplied by the user |
| 01:19.55 | CIA-7 | 03kyahx * r4089 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (. FuBar_CorkFu.toc): FuBar_CorkFu: Added proper embededs and externals to load CorkFu without FuBar. |
| 01:20.07 | hyperChipmunk | I'm guessing that's what the input field wasmeant for |
| 01:20.23 | hyperChipmunk | but does that go to the 'set' functioN? |
| 01:21.09 | ckknight | what the user puts in |
| 01:22.15 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 01:24.12 | ckknight | just do get = false |
| 01:24.14 | ckknight | see how it works for you |
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| 01:24.24 | clad|sleep | that doesn't make much sense =( |
| 01:25.34 | mjc | what's up claddy |
| 01:28.54 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: that works nicely =) |
| 01:28.58 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: that works nicely =) |
| 01:29.04 | hyperChipmunk | whoops |
| 01:29.07 | ckknight | yep. |
| 01:29.13 | ckknight | it does |
| 01:29.46 | Tem | Why does the server have to shit itself everytime we try to do BWL? |
| 01:29.59 | gnorlish | because everyone else is trying it too |
| 01:32.47 | CIA-7 | 03cladhaire * r4090 10Clique/Plugins/ (Clique_MarsRaid.lua Plugins.xml): |
| 01:32.47 | CIA-7 | Clique: |
| 01:32.47 | CIA-7 | * Fixed the MarsRaid plugin (i.e. added it to the load list) |
| 01:33.00 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: did you commit the item input filtering? |
| 01:33.10 | ckknight | 63w |
| 01:33.13 | ckknight | yes* |
| 01:33.18 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 01:33.19 | hyperChipmunk | heh k |
| 01:34.00 | Tuplad | hm; anyone has that command that was needed for cirk's chatmanager to sticky channels ? I deleted my Startup folder by accident >_< |
| 01:35.11 | kergoth | i just open its options screen and click on sticky |
| 01:35.13 | kergoth | myself |
| 01:35.19 | Tuplad | O_O |
| 01:35.28 | Tuplad | but it'll sticky that channel only right ? |
| 01:35.33 | Tuplad | someone gave me some command |
| 01:35.35 | Tuplad | just lost it :( |
| 01:35.40 | kergoth | to do it for all? |
| 01:35.52 | kergoth | thatd be useful. i just modified the .lua to change the default |
| 01:35.54 | kergoth | :P |
| 01:36.00 | Tuplad | what you mean ? :< |
| 01:36.24 | CIA-7 | 03cladhaire * r4091 10Clique/Clique.lua: |
| 01:36.24 | CIA-7 | Clique: |
| 01:36.24 | CIA-7 | * Fixed a logic issue that caused a default left click when Clique actually |
| 01:36.24 | CIA-7 | * took action |
| 01:38.09 | clad|sleep | ChatTypeInfo["OFFICER"].sticky = true |
| 01:38.31 | Tuplad | it was something like that |
| 01:38.35 | Tuplad | but it was for all channels |
| 01:38.39 | clad|sleep | "CHANNEL" |
| 01:38.47 | Tuplad | aaaaaah, good old clad :D thanks |
| 01:39.36 | Tuplad | good night all |
| 01:39.53 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
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| 01:40.14 | ag`_ | How do I reset the database for the addon? |
| 01:40.19 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: did you see the problem with the same AceLocale being called from two different files that I posted earlier? |
| 01:40.29 | ckknight | no |
| 01:40.56 | ckknight | ag`, how do you mean? |
| 01:41.00 | ckknight | clear it? |
| 01:41.11 | ag`_ | ckknight, yep, return it to defaults (ace2) |
| 01:41.25 | ckknight | the easiest would be to nil the global and ReloadUI |
| 01:42.04 | Gngsk | no quit msg? never seen that before |
| 01:42.23 | ag`_ | Dunno why I don't have one |
| 01:43.13 | hyperChipmunk | I had local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.0"):new("BulkMail") in my BulkMail.lua and my gui.lua, but the second one that loaded would 1) Trigger the error message that is the result of not finding _G[name.."_Locale_"..baseLocale], and 2) tell me that the function 'error' was nil |
| 01:44.34 | ckknight | you can only instantiate once per localization |
| 01:44.41 | CIA-7 | 03cladhaire * r4092 10Clique/Plugins/Clique_XRaid.lua: Clique: Added default clicks for XRaid |
| 01:44.42 | ckknight | I'll fix the nil error |
| 01:45.00 | hyperChipmunk | ok, so I have to put everything in one file? |
| 01:45.17 | hyperChipmunk | or not assign it to a local |
| 01:45.23 | ckknight | no, just store it |
| 01:45.39 | ckknight | local L = AceLocale:new("BulkMail") |
| 01:45.40 | ckknight | self.L = L |
| 01:45.44 | hyperChipmunk | nod |
| 01:46.38 | ag`_ | "self.db.profile = defaults" doesn't work :P |
| 01:47.04 | kergoth | thats not how you should be using defaults in acedb 2.0 |
| 01:47.16 | kergoth | meh, i need food and caffeine |
| 01:47.56 | ckknight | yea, that's quite wrong, ag |
| 01:48.07 | ag`_ | yep, I noticed that it didn't work |
| 01:48.29 | ckknight | as I said before, nil the global and ReloadUI |
| 01:51.16 | mjc | decursive sucks so much ass |
| 01:53.47 | kergoth | mjc, clique has a cureall function now.. have you tried it yet? if it works, maybe decursive can go away :) |
| 01:53.59 | mjc | kergoth: I haven't used it in MC yet |
| 01:56.45 | CIA-7 | 03cladhaire * r4093 10Clique/ (CliqueOptions.lua Plugins/Clique_MarsRaid.lua): |
| 01:56.45 | CIA-7 | Clique: |
| 01:56.45 | CIA-7 | * Removed a debug message from MarsRaid |
| 01:56.45 | CIA-7 | * The options screen will now remember your dropdown choices |
| 01:56.45 | CIA-7 | * The options screen will properly toggle between sets |
| 01:57.47 | clad|sleep | I've been told CureAny doesn't work |
| 01:57.48 | clad|sleep | but it should |
| 01:57.54 | clad|sleep | i'd uncomment those lines that are commented out |
| 01:58.02 | clad|sleep | if you can get me those, it'll make fixing it go a lot quicker =) |
| 01:58.10 | clad|sleep | just bind it to a second click and use it when/if you can |
| 01:58.45 | kergoth | k |
| 02:02.58 | clad|sleep | kthxbye |
| 02:02.59 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 02:06.57 | Tekcub | hrm.... is there a quickie function in lua to convert a hex number to decimal? |
| 02:07.16 | ckknight | tonumber(text, 16) |
| 02:08.14 | Tekcub | sweets |
| 02:09.25 | mjc | my rogue just wtfpwn looted a QSR cause nobody wanted it |
| 02:12.30 | mjc | https://thottbot.com/?i=9156 was my old ring lol |
| 02:13.24 | kergoth | damn, msbt rocks |
| 02:13.39 | hyperChipmunk | it is quite snazzy |
| 02:14.03 | ckknight | wait, what is msbt? |
| 02:14.27 | kergoth | mik's scrolling battle text |
| 02:15.08 | ckknight | okay |
| 02:16.40 | mjc | kergoth: yes it does |
| 02:16.44 | mjc | kergoth: particularly with archud |
| 02:17.18 | mjc | 'zomg testing' lol wtf |
| 02:17.44 | Gngsk | where can I find this msbt? |
| 02:18.21 | mjc | wowi |
| 02:18.24 | mjc | or curse |
| 02:18.26 | mjc | :P |
| 02:18.30 | Tem | FLAME! DEATH! DESTRUCTION! |
| 02:18.51 | kergoth | hmm, should try archud, havent tried that in a long time. using dhud atm |
| 02:19.15 | Gngsk | mjc, first place I checked but didn't see anything |
| 02:19.28 | mjc | kergoth: it still uses a lot of cpu |
| 02:20.16 | Tekcub | erf.... damn chlorine |
| 02:20.28 | mjc | Gngsk: http://curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4482-1-mikscrollingbattletext.html |
| 02:20.37 | Tekcub | I got a good wiff of it when I finally got that fucking bucket open... now I got a damn headache |
| 02:20.53 | mjc | kergoth: dhud is pretty |
| 02:20.57 | kergoth | indeed |
| 02:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: /bm autosend add [Arcane Crystal] --> function("|cff1eff00|Hitem:12363:0:0:0|h[Arcane", "Crystal]|h|r") |
| 02:21.33 | ckknight | goddammit |
| 02:21.38 | mjc | bm? |
| 02:21.51 | Gngsk | mjc, thx |
| 02:21.56 | mjc | Gngsk: np |
| 02:22.00 | hyperChipmunk | Oh |
| 02:22.01 | hyperChipmunk | wait =) |
| 02:22.07 | hyperChipmunk | let me try updating first ;) |
| 02:22.37 | hyperChipmunk | hey, lookie, an update to AceConsole =x |
| 02:23.02 | ckknight | ... |
| 02:23.16 | ckknight | http://www.starz.com/features/brokebackmountain/ <--- hehe |
| 02:23.31 | hyperChipmunk | hey, whattayaknow |
| 02:23.34 | hyperChipmunk | it works =D |
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| 02:26.05 | ckknight | try multiple ones |
| 02:26.12 | ckknight | and without spaces in between |
| 02:26.14 | hyperChipmunk | doing that once i get MY logic correct =D |
| 02:28.33 | ckknight | WTB [Brains] PST |
| 02:28.43 | kergoth | mjc, only thing i dont like about msbt is it gets hard to see other messages popping up in that area, like fubar_topscorefu's crit records, or the default spellalert messages (need to relocate it) |
| 02:28.58 | mjc | you can relocate msbt |
| 02:29.07 | mjc | and fubar_topscorefu needs a relocate feature |
| 02:29.26 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: looks good |
| 02:29.28 | kergoth | well, i like msbt in the default position.. it just takes a lot of room with all thsoe messages. nature of it |
| 02:31.10 | ckknight | mjc, it's in the chat commands |
| 02:31.40 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.40 | mjc | cool. |
| 02:31.42 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 02:31.44 | kergoth | ah thats cool |
| 02:37.16 | hyperChipmunk | how do I delete a realm db? |
| 02:37.31 | hyperChipmunk | I type /script BulkMail.db = nil and it keeps coming back O_o |
| 02:38.03 | Wobin | Wot? |
| 02:38.10 | Wobin | Womble |
| 02:38.57 | hyperChipmunk | good womble |
| 02:39.12 | kergoth | its fun watching all the [3 hit] etc go by in msbt. i love windfury |
| 02:39.43 | Gngsk | I'm trying to figure out how the 'hide' option is supposed to work for FuXP |
| 02:40.03 | Wobin | Gngsk: Poke ckknight =) |
| 02:40.13 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 02:40.24 | Wobin | That's not my department, I'm just taking advantage of a FuBar functionality |
| 02:40.32 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, BulkMailDB.realms["My realm - Alliance"] = nil |
| 02:40.34 | Gngsk | right, I just thought about that actually |
| 02:40.39 | Wobin | (PS where'd womble come about?) |
| 02:41.04 | Gngsk | uh, that whisper mod you made? |
| 02:41.41 | Wobin | I made a whisper mod? |
| 02:41.58 | Gngsk | erm |
| 02:43.46 | Gngsk | SwitchBoard! |
| 02:44.30 | Wobin | oh =) |
| 02:44.56 | Wobin | yeah, that's a holdover from my MUD coding |
| 02:45.04 | Thrae|Busy | ckknight: How would the resource comparison be of AceOO, AceLibrary, AceEvent, and AceHook be compared to doing it myself? |
| 02:45.07 | Wobin | we always used 'womble' 'frog' and 'cabbage' as variable names |
| 02:45.21 | Gngsk | yea, every time I create a new toon I am greeted by womble |
| 02:45.43 | ckknight | Thrae|Busy, if you were to do it yourself with no other mods, it'd be better. If a single other mod uses it as well, then Ace2 is better |
| 02:45.57 | ckknight | also, it's a lot faster than writing it all yourself |
| 02:46.29 | Thrae|Busy | Yeah, but people are already complaining about newer versions of TinyTip taking up too much resources. Hmm... |
| 02:47.30 | ckknight | solution: |
| 02:47.40 | ckknight | at the end of your lua file, put collectgarbage() |
| 02:47.48 | ckknight | it'll fuck up warmup pretty harsh |
| 02:47.57 | Thrae|Busy | hahaha |
| 02:48.17 | ckknight | wow, TinyTip is awesome, it saves me 500 KiB! |
| 02:49.08 | kergoth | tinytip is awesome indeed |
| 02:49.20 | ckknight | frankly, if you did that, it'd be okay. it's sate the users |
| 02:49.25 | ckknight | it'd* |
| 02:49.30 | kergoth | silly users |
| 02:49.33 | ckknight | win-win, without actually doing anything |
| 02:49.59 | ckknight | does collectgarbage() more expensive than a natural GC? |
| 02:50.13 | ckknight | is* |
| 02:50.15 | Thrae|Busy | I've already done a lot of optimization, but some of it requires stuff like tables being generated on load then thrown away |
| 02:50.46 | Thrae|Busy | But then again, maybe people are just looking at the FILE size not realizing how Lua works... |
| 02:50.49 | ckknight | compost ftw |
| 02:50.53 | ckknight | oh |
| 02:50.55 | ckknight | um |
| 02:51.28 | ckknight | tell em "go fuck yourselves. it's more efficient than before through advanced coding practices done by ckknight. blame him" |
| 02:51.36 | ckknight | then they blame me |
| 02:51.39 | ckknight | and everybody wins |
| 02:51.39 | Thrae|Busy | haha |
| 02:53.22 | Thrae|Busy | Does local _G = getfenv(0) actually speed things up? |
| 02:54.00 | kergoth | thats just a way to directly reference the global environment |
| 02:54.56 | Thrae|Busy | Hmm, is it any faster then getglobal() ? |
| 02:54.59 | ckknight | yea, to make sure you're getting a global and not a local |
| 02:55.08 | ckknight | probably faster, avoids a function call |
| 02:55.53 | ckknight | I don't like getglobal |
| 02:56.06 | ckknight | seems ickier than using _G |
| 02:56.16 | kergoth | well, its a C function, so i doubt its very slow, but yeah, pointless indirection |
| 02:57.37 | Thrae|Busy | Speaking of functions, what does Lua do with functions that are never called? Do they sit in memory in case the conditions change? |
| 02:58.40 | kergoth | calls are irrelevant to memory consumption |
| 02:58.47 | kergoth | if something holds a reference to the closure, the closure stays in ram |
| 03:01.25 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r4094 10BulkMail/ (7 files): |
| 03:01.25 | CIA-7 | 0.7.0: |
| 03:01.25 | CIA-7 | - Ace2 upgradinations. |
| 03:01.25 | CIA-7 | - Recommended you do a fresh checkout, as some library paths have changed. |
| 03:01.25 | CIA-7 | - Ditto on your saved vars. 'Nuke and pave' is the phrase of the day. |
| 03:01.30 | Thrae|Busy | Well let's put it this way. Say no one has any Targeting features enabled in TinyTip. That means no part of TinyTipTargets.lua is used. Will the file and function metadata still be sitting in memory, or will it read from the HDD when it needs it? |
| 03:01.51 | ckknight | sitting in memory |
| 03:01.57 | kergoth | wow reads in the entire file, compiles it into a lua chunk (a function), then executes it |
| 03:02.11 | kergoth | whether or not you use what was created by the execution of that chunk is irrelevent |
| 03:02.12 | ckknight | to prevent that, have it be LoD |
| 03:02.41 | Thrae|Busy | So I'd have to seperate out the pieces into seperate addons which are LoD. |
| 03:03.59 | kergoth | yep |
| 03:03.59 | ckknight | yes |
| 03:04.18 | ckknight | functions aren't too expensive |
| 03:04.29 | ckknight | just don't create any tables needlessly |
| 03:04.33 | ckknight | until you want em on-demand |
| 03:04.35 | ckknight | basically |
| 03:05.08 | Thrae|Busy | There are no tables made at global scope, period. Any other table is reused unless I need to keep its contents. |
| 03:05.44 | Thrae|Busy | Well, not counting the Saved Variable table. |
| 03:06.44 | ckknight | global scope doesn't matter |
| 03:06.51 | ckknight | it's the fact that they exist. |
| 03:07.03 | Thrae|Busy | Only TinyTip.lua is allowed to actually instantiate any variables or tables at initialization, everything else instantiates when needed. |
| 03:07.18 | Thrae|Busy | Well, I assumed just doing local foo without giving a value is basically free. |
| 03:10.00 | ckknight | basically. |
| 03:10.20 | Thrae|Busy | What if I had functions that create functions on-demand? |
| 03:10.26 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4095 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files): ag_UnitFrames - Just a few changes, added database |
| 03:10.28 | kergoth | hmm, the new version of glock doesnt seem to work |
| 03:10.33 | kergoth | isnt recording the resists |
| 03:11.51 | kergoth | friendsfu refuses to disbale |
| 03:11.53 | kergoth | disable |
| 03:12.01 | kergoth | when i disable it, it ends up attached to my minimap |
| 03:12.08 | kergoth | hrm |
| 03:12.21 | kergoth | yep, every time |
| 03:13.23 | ag`_ | I have created a frame in lua with a text string and a statusbar in it, and no matter what I do I can't make the text overlap the statusbar. It works fine for otravi in his addon though... Been looking at this for hours >.< |
| 03:16.34 | Wobin | kergoth: Why would you want to disable friendsfu! Don't you have friends? =) |
| 03:17.08 | ag`_ | oh well... tomorrow I'll have better luck I guess |
| 03:17.27 | kergoth | Wobin, hehe. i'm using the chatr buddy list :) |
| 03:17.56 | kergoth | man, had almost forgotten just how fast i burn through my little mana with my shammy |
| 03:19.53 | Wobin | hehe shammy ~= mana conservation =P |
| 03:20.01 | Wobin | esp elemental shammy =P |
| 03:20.23 | kergoth | not elemental, enh/resto, but even so |
| 03:21.11 | Wobin | same for any shammy, but just moreso for the elemental |
| 03:23.49 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r4096 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail-enUS.lua BulkMailLocals.lua): |
| 03:23.49 | CIA-7 | BulkMail: |
| 03:23.50 | CIA-7 | - Correct locale file now in the SVN |
| 03:24.26 | kergoth | pagefault, you should do a /topscorefu position 300 300 or so, to move the crit messages out of the area where all those scrolling battle text messages are. |
| 03:24.48 | kergoth | s/crit/record/ |
| 03:26.44 | hyperChipmunk | BulkMail cleared for usage. You may download when ready. >8D |
| 03:26.48 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:26.50 | hyperChipmunk | it passes the Girlfriend Test |
| 03:27.03 | ckknight | my mother is surprisingly okay with me starting a cult |
| 03:27.05 | ckknight | semi-surprising |
| 03:28.36 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, what changes have you been working on? |
| 03:29.32 | hyperChipmunk | it's Ace2 now |
| 03:29.53 | hyperChipmunk | the rest of the changes are waiting for AceGUI2 |
| 03:32.20 | Thrae|Busy | Hmmm. No matter what I do, if I have a bunch of string literals sitting anywhere, they're going to be sitting in memory along with everything else. |
| 03:32.42 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, ah nice |
| 03:32.52 | Thrae|Busy | Sounds like slash commands are a good opportunity for LoadOnDemand. |
| 03:33.13 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 03:33.40 | ckknight | like slash commands activating a LoD addon? |
| 03:34.35 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r4097 10BulkMail/gui.lua: |
| 03:34.35 | CIA-7 | BulkMail: |
| 03:34.35 | CIA-7 | - Drag-and-drop now works from bag #4 |
| 03:34.49 | Thrae|Busy | ckknight: Yeah, have /ttip or /tinytip activate the LoD addon TinyTipOptions. |
| 03:35.22 | ckknight | for GUI or what? |
| 03:35.35 | Thrae|Busy | Both slash commands and GUI. |
| 03:35.41 | Kemayo | Ace2 newbie question - since self.super.OnInitialize(self) seems to be depreciated, and the wiki docs still use it, are we supposed to just hook PLAYER_LOGIN to call OnEnable ourselves? |
| 03:35.41 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:35.55 | ckknight | Kemayo, where does it say on the wiki docs? |
| 03:35.59 | Thrae|Busy | The GUI would use either Dewdrop or GooeyFigs, so the frames would be dynamically created, that's not a big deal. |
| 03:35.59 | ckknight | I need to remove it |
| 03:36.02 | ckknight | and the answer is no, Kemayo |
| 03:36.05 | Kemayo | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceAddon-2.0_API_Documentation |
| 03:36.33 | Thrae|Busy | It's all these strings that I want to get rid of from loading in memory unconditionally. |
| 03:37.13 | Kemayo | (In the OnInitialize example.) |
| 03:37.13 | Thrae|Busy | Anyway, most people don't use slash commands every session, if only once at all. |
| 03:38.21 | Kaelten | hows it going guys? |
| 03:39.12 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 03:39.28 | Thrae | Hey Kaelten, I had a crazy idea for you. What if KCI hooked Auctioneer to use KCI's database and some of its more optimized functions? |
| 03:39.43 | hyperChipmunk | wb k-man |
| 03:40.10 | Kaelten | thrae, errr... NO |
| 03:40.33 | Kaelten | Thrae: thats just way too evil |
| 03:40.43 | Thrae | "Too evil"? |
| 03:41.15 | Kaelten | ya, it'd be near impossible to reliably implement |
| 03:41.40 | Thrae | Ah, because Auctioneer's API could change at any time without you knowing. Gotcha. |
| 03:42.14 | Kaelten | also the drastic differences in the way the two mods work |
| 03:42.24 | Kaelten | I'd basically have to completely rewrite the back end of auctioneer |
| 03:43.17 | Thrae | Could PeriodicTable be put to use with Auctioneer? I wonder if the author would be interested. |
| 03:52.36 | Wobin | Thrae: In what way though? |
| 03:52.52 | Thrae | In what way what? |
| 03:52.55 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: heh, the fire in Rut'theran VIllage (darnassus) still causes damage too =) |
| 03:52.58 | Wobin | They're having problems with huge datafiles already, if you're following the conversation in wowi |
| 03:53.02 | Tem | :) |
| 03:53.56 | Wobin | how could PT be used in Auctioneer? |
| 03:54.17 | hyperChipmunk | you can also use your blossoms on it |
| 03:54.22 | hyperChipmunk | >8) |
| 03:54.49 | hyperChipmunk | for the fire festival buffs |
| 03:54.51 | mjc | Kaelten: it'd be nice to have the search pane that auctioneer has |
| 03:54.52 | hyperChipmunk | if you still have any left |
| 03:55.21 | Thrae | Wobin: It was my understanding that PTEmbed was designed as a compressed itemdb. |
| 03:55.43 | Kaelten | true |
| 03:55.51 | Wobin | In a way, yes |
| 03:55.57 | Kaelten | but right now I'm trying to figure out how to do a better job on OneBankBag |
| 03:56.06 | Wobin | I find it's more of a categoriser, though |
| 03:56.56 | Thrae | Yeah, that's why I suggested about merging parts with Auctioneer, but Kaelten's right about the problems. Poor Kaelten has all these great mods which are coded at such a high level compared to most people that only a relative few could update them further ;) |
| 03:57.23 | Kaelten | lol flattery is overrated |
| 03:57.31 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 03:58.19 | Thrae | If PT isn't the answer, I would like to see a lib geared towards itemdbs, if only to help out Auctioneer. |
| 03:59.05 | Kaelten | thrae what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 03:59.16 | kergoth | msbt reminds me of old batman shows. those colors.. parry! is like "kapow!" or something. its great. |
| 03:59.17 | mjc | fubar_debugprofiler doesn't save settings (onupdate frames, memory) |
| 03:59.25 | mjc | kergoth: me too :D |
| 03:59.30 | mjc | it owns SCT |
| 03:59.32 | Kaelten | kergoth msbt? |
| 03:59.37 | kergoth | mik's scrolling battle text |
| 03:59.41 | hyperChipmunk | it is <3 |
| 03:59.42 | kergoth | sweet replacement for sct* |
| 03:59.47 | Kaelten | link? |
| 03:59.47 | Thrae | Kaelten: Reduce Auctioneer's incredible memory usage |
| 03:59.59 | mjc | curse-gaming |
| 04:00.02 | Wobin | Thrae: Most of that is in raw data, though, isn't it? |
| 04:00.10 | Wobin | ie, prices, et al |
| 04:00.14 | Kaelten | the only way to dot hat is a complete restructoring of the mod to reduce raw data and condense it |
| 04:00.15 | kergoth | Kaelten, http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4482-1-mikscrollingbattletext.html |
| 04:00.20 | Kaelten | thanks ker |
| 04:00.29 | kergoth | np |
| 04:00.40 | Thrae | Yeah, but I would think KCI Auction stores the same information, just better. |
| 04:01.06 | Wobin | purl, msbt is Mikk's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4482-1-mikscrollingbattletext.html |
| 04:01.10 | purl | Wobin: okay |
| 04:01.12 | mjc | Thrae: the only thing that auctioneer has that kci doesn't, afaik, is the search tab |
| 04:01.23 | Kaelten | thrae not quite. |
| 04:01.39 | Kaelten | I do store less information |
| 04:02.07 | Kaelten | but I like to think its not as noticeable |
| 04:03.08 | *** join/#wowace Kyahx|afk (n=Kyahx@72.2.212.239) |
| 04:03.38 | kergoth | it is for those of us who rely on auctioneer's search feature. need to store all the info from the most recent scan, unfortunately |
| 04:03.44 | mjc | Kaelten: how hard would it be to implement something to search kci's db? |
| 04:04.57 | mjc | like even an sql-style cmdline thing even :p |
| 04:05.20 | kergoth | argh, not being able to disable fubar_friendsfu is annoying as hell |
| 04:05.20 | kergoth | stop attaching to my minimap you fucker |
| 04:05.21 | kergoth | i said disable |
| 04:07.35 | Wobin | 'Hide'? |
| 04:07.48 | Wobin | mjc: rofl |
| 04:07.54 | mjc | Wobin: hehe |
| 04:08.09 | Wobin | "SELECT * from KCI_DB WHERE Level=20" |
| 04:08.10 | mjc | kergoth: /ace disable fubar_friendsfu ; /rl |
| 04:08.11 | mjc | :p |
| 04:08.18 | mjc | Wobin: fuck yes |
| 04:08.22 | mjc | that'd wtfpwn |
| 04:08.26 | Wobin | DBLib! |
| 04:08.53 | Kaelten | err, pretty damn heard |
| 04:08.55 | Kaelten | err hard |
| 04:08.58 | kergoth | mjc, bah |
| 04:09.28 | mjc | kergoth: yeah, I don't use it |
| 04:10.06 | mjc | Kaelten: kci does use quite a bit of memory even on standby, btw... does it standby the whole thing with /kci standby ? |
| 04:10.34 | Kaelten | ya it does, the majority of kci is data storage |
| 04:10.42 | Kaelten | the mod by itself only uses up about 400kb |
| 04:10.57 | Kaelten | the rest is data |
| 04:11.01 | mjc | is there some way to get it to unload the data on standby? |
| 04:11.10 | Kaelten | nope |
| 04:11.24 | Kaelten | not unless you want to start from scratch on the next load |
| 04:11.35 | mjc | I'd be ok with that |
| 04:11.47 | mjc | I have to /ace disable kc_items ; /rl before raids as it is |
| 04:11.47 | Kaelten | most wouldn't though |
| 04:11.48 | kergoth | hrm, my wow lags during combat with my rogue, but only with my rogue, due to the amount of activity |
| 04:11.53 | mjc | Kaelten: /ace suspend |
| 04:11.54 | mjc | :p |
| 04:11.59 | kergoth | i wonder if its simple combat log, msbt, or just my computer |
| 04:12.15 | mjc | kergoth: mine gets a 5-6fps hit with SCT or MSBT |
| 04:12.51 | kergoth | ow |
| 04:12.52 | Kaelten | mjc /ace disable KC_Items |
| 04:12.57 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:13.00 | kergoth | and i'm under cedega, my fps isnt that high as is ;\ |
| 04:13.07 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:13.44 | Kaelten | then when you want to use it again do /ace enable KC_Items |
| 04:13.48 | Kaelten | and reload again |
| 04:13.53 | mjc | Kaelten: waiting on reloadui sucks |
| 04:13.53 | hyperChipmunk | my wow actually ran faster under wine than in windows, like a year ago when I still had a windows partition |
| 04:15.29 | mjc | same here |
| 04:15.32 | mjc | but ati sucks now :p |
| 04:15.47 | Kemayo | ...why might BulkMail be throwing errors when I try to use console commands on my own (totally a stub) Ace2 app? |
| 04:16.10 | Kemayo | Nothing else Ace2 is doing it, so I assume it must be something I'm doing wrong. |
| 04:16.17 | Wobin | Kemayo: It's not |
| 04:16.20 | Wobin | really |
| 04:16.32 | Wobin | It's just using the copy of Ace2 loaded with BM as it loaded first |
| 04:16.40 | Wobin | It's still your addon =) |
| 04:16.53 | hyperChipmunk | >8O |
| 04:16.55 | hyperChipmunk | totally NOT my fault |
| 04:17.07 | Kemayo | Ah, okay. Good to know. :) |
| 04:18.49 | Thrae | Wobin: Could you add bank sorting to MrPlow, or am I stupid? |
| 04:18.59 | Wobin | It's in there |
| 04:19.07 | Wobin | /mp theworks bank |
| 04:19.07 | Thrae | OK, then I'm stupid. |
| 04:19.07 | hyperChipmunk | you're stupid |
| 04:19.10 | Wobin | or |
| 04:19.15 | Wobin | /mp sort bank |
| 04:19.24 | Thrae | I thought that just took items from your inventory and stacked them in your bank? |
| 04:21.13 | Wobin | nah that's bankstack |
| 04:22.22 | Thrae | Ah, I misunderstood the slash command descriptions then. |
| 04:23.06 | Wobin | hm, is it overly unclear? =\ |
| 04:23.47 | Thrae | No, probably my fault. Sometimes I interpret something the wrong way, then that gets stuck in my head and never try to re-interpret it. |
| 04:24.33 | Thrae | With words, anyway. |
| 04:24.54 | CIA-7 | 03handdol * r4098 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:24.54 | CIA-7 | BigWigs |
| 04:24.54 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.21 | mjc | emeriss is a pain in the ass |
| 04:30.10 | kergoth | mjc: oddly enough, switching to opengl seems to have removed my lag issues in combat with my rogue, even though it didnt change my framerate at all as far as i can tell.. |
| 04:30.27 | kergoth | probably less cpu consumed by the additional emulation layer |
| 04:30.41 | mjc | kergoth: yeah |
| 04:30.58 | kergoth | at least its playable now, it wasnt before :) |
| 04:31.03 | kergoth | even if the frame rates suck ass |
| 04:31.08 | Tem | Tekcub, you around? |
| 04:31.16 | Tekcub | sorta |
| 04:31.24 | Tem | another thought about SEBags |
| 04:31.26 | kergoth | i used to get much better framerates in linux than windows |
| 04:31.28 | kergoth | i dunno what happened |
| 04:31.35 | Tem | when the new stack is 0, it passes nil |
| 04:31.37 | hyperChipmunk | where's my dr. who theme, punk |
| 04:31.53 | Tekcub | yea, no items == nil |
| 04:32.01 | Tekcub | I never found it hC >< |
| 04:32.09 | hyperChipmunk | slocate ftw |
| 04:32.42 | Tekcub | hC, my MP3s are spread across 4 HDD's, 3 computers, and a good dozen CDs... |
| 04:33.22 | Tekcub | http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/hashtorrent/3307830.torrent/Timelords_-_Doctorin__The_Tardis.3307830.TPB.torrent |
| 04:33.26 | mjc | kergoth: did you try turning off shaders? |
| 04:33.26 | hyperChipmunk | so you're saying you're an incompetent buffoon and not worth my attention? |
| 04:33.35 | Tekcub | http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/hashtorrent/3440054.torrent/the_KLF.3440054.TPB.torrent |
| 04:33.55 | kergoth | mjc: not yet.. i havent played around with the settings since my last linux reinstall |
| 04:34.52 | mjc | kergoth: shader support in cedega is a decent source of DX performance issues |
| 04:35.54 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:36.10 | mjc | kergoth: http://tinyurl.com/kkyjd tonight btw =) |
| 04:36.33 | kergoth | i'm also windowed, but its with cedega's desktop support, not wow's windowed support.. maybe i should try full screen though |
| 04:36.54 | Tekcub | hC... it's burried inside all those tracks in the second one... |
| 04:37.03 | Tekcub | that's like all of KLF's works :) |
| 04:37.30 | hyperChipmunk | yea I see it |
| 04:37.30 | Wobin | "Kylie said to Jason" ? |
| 04:37.31 | kergoth | mjc: oooh |
| 04:37.31 | Wobin | rofl |
| 04:37.58 | mjc | kergoth: wasn't really worth the dkp but I had a green ring |
| 04:38.10 | Wobin | alas for complete lack of seeders |
| 04:38.28 | Wobin | And the other peer I hvae is probably hC |
| 04:38.41 | hyperChipmunk | there's actually 3 seeders on the 3G KLF |
| 04:39.00 | hyperChipmunk | and yea, just one peer on the mpg |
| 04:39.09 | hyperChipmunk | hi wob! |
| 04:39.38 | Wobin | =) |
| 04:40.09 | Tekcub | that peer is prolly me >< |
| 04:40.11 | hyperChipmunk | *virus* |
| 04:42.15 | ckknight_ | ~beer |
| 04:42.16 | purl | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
| 04:42.32 | kergoth | mjc: does your cedega show a pass under its system test for opengl? |
| 04:42.37 | Tekcub | hC |
| 04:42.38 | Tekcub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdTELokKfCk |
| 04:43.02 | Tekcub | okey... that's not the techno mix I thought it was... |
| 04:43.42 | kergoth | Tip: all things in moderation, even world of warcraft |
| 04:45.04 | kergoth | hmm, disabling vertex shaders helped, but not much. brought me from like 11-12fps to like 16 :( |
| 04:45.10 | KaeltenAway | gnight guys |
| 04:45.15 | Tem | Tekcub, I think you should change it a bit |
| 04:45.34 | Tem | so that stack is always a number |
| 04:45.37 | Tekcub | to what, and why? |
| 04:45.43 | Tekcub | why? |
| 04:45.51 | Tem | because nil is counterintuitive |
| 04:46.18 | Tekcub | not to me... if there's no item nil makes sense |
| 04:47.35 | hyperChipmunk | hey, I'm getting 2.5KB/s on the KLF collection |
| 04:47.44 | kergoth | to me, nil makes more sense as a means of reporting an error than it does reporting successful execution, but 0 items |
| 04:47.49 | hyperChipmunk | in a mere 1h06m, I'll have it! |
| 04:48.03 | Tem | what kergoth said |
| 04:48.20 | kergoth | in fact, its a common convention in lua outside of wow to return nil, "error message" |
| 04:49.37 | Tekcub | well here's a thought for ya, I just pass what blizzy's functions return... why not take the issue up wi th slouken? |
| 04:50.10 | hyperChipmunk | thoughts suck |
| 04:50.11 | Tekcub | I'd rather SE's data be in sync with blizzy's... seem counterintuitive for mine to act one way and the default API act another |
| 04:50.21 | hyperChipmunk | down with thought |
| 04:50.26 | hyperChipmunk | Up With People! |
| 04:51.09 | Tem | Tekcub, this is the situation where I really think of it |
| 04:52.02 | Tem | a consumable is used |
| 04:54.22 | FryGuy | PT is an embed right? |
| 04:54.26 | FryGuy | and same with mendolev? |
| 04:59.33 | Tekcub | http://whomix.trilete.net/download.php?remixid=30 |
| 04:59.33 | Tekcub | hehe |
| 04:59.46 | Tekcub | god there's so many remixes |
| 05:00.02 | Tekcub | I don't think I have the CD it was on anymore... |
| 05:00.07 | hyperChipmunk | it's a catchy tune |
| 05:00.20 | hyperChipmunk | and it almost screams for remixes |
| 05:00.59 | Tekcub | okey, it doesn't help that this remix site's oldest one is 2003 |
| 05:01.09 | Tekcub | I know I got the tune back in 2000 |
| 05:01.10 | Tekcub | ish |
| 05:01.16 | Tekcub | http://whomix.trilete.net/?wmid=music |
| 05:01.40 | Wobin | Tekcub: Too soft to make out |
| 05:01.50 | hyperChipmunk | the whale thing is pretty cool =) |
| 05:02.00 | Tekcub | http://whomix.trilete.net/download.php?remixid=13 |
| 05:03.12 | Tekcub | http://whomix.trilete.net/download.php?remixid=41 |
| 05:03.18 | hyperChipmunk | one of the seeds logged off |
| 05:03.20 | hyperChipmunk | punk |
| 05:05.09 | Tekcub | http://whomix.trilete.net/download.php?remixid=52 |
| 05:05.10 | Tekcub | *giggle* |
| 05:09.36 | Thrae | Hmmm. _G.Var versus local Var if not Var then GetSingleInstanceOf("Var") end |
| 05:12.26 | mjc | heh something keeps spamming 'zomg testing' in my chatframe |
| 05:12.33 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 05:13.12 | mjc | well not spamming |
| 05:13.16 | mjc | but it shows up occaisionally |
| 05:14.18 | mjc | 25,022 |
| 05:14.25 | mjc | sell values in my kci db already |
| 05:18.02 | ckknight_ | GetSingleInstanceOf? |
| 05:18.34 | Thrae | Nevermind on that one. |
| 05:29.04 | mjc | anyone have a mod to help with the rhok'delar quest? |
| 05:29.53 | kergoth | hahahah, yay george carlin |
| 05:30.04 | kergoth | "It's called the american dream, folks, because you'd have to be asleep to believe it." |
| 05:30.09 | mjc | :D |
| 05:30.38 | kergoth | cant get my fps over 13 :( |
| 05:30.42 | kergoth | trying all sorts of shit |
| 05:30.46 | kergoth | bleh |
| 05:31.46 | mjc | anyone? |
| 05:32.07 | hyperChipmunk | l2p nub |
| 05:34.26 | Tem | ok, Sorry Tek. Was distracted by BWL raid |
| 05:34.33 | Tem | someone uses a consumable |
| 05:35.10 | Tem | (the last of that particular stack) |
| 05:35.24 | Tem | Currently the args are: bag, slot, nil, nil, [Potion of Whatever], 1 |
| 05:35.52 | Tem | I think they should be: bag slot, nil, 0, [Potion of Whatever], 1 |
| 05:36.34 | ckknight_ | so it turns out my brother, who went through 3 years of law school doesn't want to be a lawyer. Instead, he wants to write mystery books for 12-year-old girls |
| 05:37.11 | Tem | lol? |
| 05:37.18 | ckknight_ | yea |
| 05:37.23 | ckknight_ | that's a lol situation |
| 05:37.33 | Wobin | ... |
| 05:37.43 | hyperChipmunk | OWNED |
| 05:38.15 | ckknight_ | owned? |
| 05:41.01 | hyperChipmunk | whoever payed for his education =) |
| 05:43.15 | Tekcub | sorry hC, searched my old CDs, no findy |
| 05:43.26 | Tekcub | tho I did find MC Hawking - Fuck the Creationists |
| 05:43.39 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 05:43.44 | hyperChipmunk | the torrent just finished =) |
| 05:44.19 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/DocTheTARDIS.mp3 |
| 05:44.20 | ckknight_ | he paid for his own education. |
| 05:44.41 | hyperChipmunk | not that it'll be much faster downloading from me =) |
| 05:44.58 | Tekcub | taht's not it >< |
| 05:45.13 | hyperChipmunk | that's the one you gave me, loser |
| 05:45.31 | hyperChipmunk | the\ KLF/_Albums/1989\ Shag\ Times/\ 07\ -\ Doctorin\'\ The\ Tardis.mp3 |
| 05:45.37 | Tekcub | yea, and I found the video an hour ago, linked it, and said that wasn't the one |
| 05:45.39 | Tekcub | :P |
| 05:46.30 | hyperChipmunk | well you blow |
| 05:46.49 | hyperChipmunk | clearly you were unclear |
| 05:47.06 | Tekcub | the more I think about it, it was on a regular old audio CD, unlabeled, the only song on the disc.... |
| 05:47.22 | Tekcub | I might have made a copy for my dad tho |
| 05:47.33 | hyperChipmunk | that's the way to store music, as everyone knows |
| 05:50.29 | hyperChipmunk | Tip: Bring your friends to Azeroth, but don't forget to go outside Azeroth with them as well. |
| 05:50.32 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 05:50.39 | kergoth | damnit wow, perform! |
| 05:51.35 | kergoth | :( |
| 05:55.51 | ckknight_ | ~comfort kergoth |
| 05:55.52 | purl | There, there, kergoth. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 05:56.28 | kergoth | its hard to play at 10-13 fps |
| 06:01.38 | Wobin | Dr Who Dr WHO! |
| 06:01.44 | Wobin | *sigh* |
| 06:02.18 | hyperChipmunk | dun da-dun da-dun da-dun, dun |
| 06:02.21 | hyperChipmunk | dun da-dun da-dun da-dun, dun |
| 06:02.31 | hyperChipmunk | BOOOWEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 06:02.42 | hyperChipmunk | WEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOooooooO |
| 06:03.06 | Tekcub | god |
| 06:03.31 | Tekcub | WHEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOooooooo oooooooo oooowwwweeeeee ooooo ooooo! |
| 06:03.52 | hyperChipmunk | ...da-dun da-dun da-dun, dun |
| 06:07.00 | ckknight_ | you know what sucked? Casshern |
| 06:07.35 | Wobin | ? |
| 06:07.43 | Tekcub | ! |
| 06:08.42 | ckknight_ | . |
| 06:09.57 | ckknight_ | um |
| 06:09.58 | ckknight_ | ; |
| 06:10.02 | ckknight_ | there we go |
| 06:10.27 | Tekcub | ¿ |
| 06:11.29 | Tekcub | Ûž |
| 06:11.34 | Tekcub | bah that one didn't go |
| 06:12.19 | Wobin | ¡ |
| 06:12.21 | hyperChipmunk | I Ûž UTF-8? |
| 06:21.26 | Mikma | morning |
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| 06:24.14 | Wobin | Morning |
| 06:24.19 | Amadeo | morning! |
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| 06:29.13 | MoonWolf | morning people |
| 06:29.16 | FryGuy | gaaah this is frustrating :( |
| 06:29.25 | FryGuy | i stole this code from mendeleev but it's not working for me |
| 06:29.35 | MoonWolf | ? |
| 06:29.36 | FryGuy | well |
| 06:29.40 | FryGuy | it's working sort of |
| 06:29.45 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 06:29.53 | MoonWolf | What part ? |
| 06:29.54 | FryGuy | but somehow it doesn't have access to.. stuff |
| 06:30.18 | FryGuy | can i pastebin it and point out the lines? |
| 06:30.20 | ckknight_ | As men age, they encounter the sixth fear: loss of virility. just look him straight in the eye and invade his personal space by standing a little closer than normal |
| 06:30.27 | MoonWolf | FryGuy, sure. |
| 06:30.30 | Tekcub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=409551 |
| 06:30.41 | Tekcub | someone verbally abuse Zanzer for me |
| 06:30.51 | Tekcub | show him he's a total fucksmudge |
| 06:30.51 | MoonWolf | Never thought that someone would have trouble figuring out mendeleev code |
| 06:31.00 | MoonWolf | its really damn simple |
| 06:31.05 | Tekcub | my brain hurts too much to deal with him directly |
| 06:31.19 | hyperChipmunk | did you see my reply in your readycheck thread? |
| 06:32.19 | FryGuy | it could be an acedb issue |
| 06:32.39 | FryGuy | or a scoping issue |
| 06:32.41 | MoonWolf | to bad i cant post there |
| 06:32.49 | MoonWolf | FryGuy, just pastebin away |
| 06:33.02 | FryGuy | ya my comp is slow with wow running :p |
| 06:33.42 | Tekcub | i lost the readycheck thread hC |
| 06:34.07 | FryGuy | actually pastebin is broken or something :( |
| 06:34.48 | MoonWolf | http://rafb.net/paste/ <- use that then |
| 06:35.42 | FryGuy | http://rafb.net/paste/results/w143pi89.html |
| 06:36.13 | FryGuy | line 130 is calling my function |
| 06:36.24 | FryGuy | and same with 220 |
| 06:36.37 | FryGuy | but it works from the console, but not from the tooltip code |
| 06:36.46 | MoonWolf | and what exactly is the problem ? |
| 06:37.02 | kergoth | damnit damnit damnit damnit damnit |
| 06:37.15 | hyperChipmunk | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=408485 |
| 06:37.21 | MoonWolf | @@local players = self:GetPlayersNeedItem(id) <- what are the @@ for ? |
| 06:37.27 | Tekcub | yea hC, I saw it |
| 06:37.28 | FryGuy | oh |
| 06:37.29 | MoonWolf | kergoth, something bad happend ? |
| 06:37.29 | hyperChipmunk | Tekcub: the readycheck thread-----^ |
| 06:37.34 | FryGuy | in ace.pastebin it would've highlighted it :p |
| 06:37.36 | kergoth | just my 3d is shot to hell |
| 06:37.38 | FryGuy | local classes = self.db:get({"items", item}, "classes"); |
| 06:37.38 | FryGuy | if not classes then ace:print("no classes for: "..id) return end |
| 06:37.43 | kergoth | getting horrible performance in all 3d in linux right now |
| 06:37.43 | FryGuy | that code right there is the culprit |
| 06:37.45 | Tekcub | I'm at the "not giving a fuck" point on both subjects now |
| 06:37.45 | kergoth | way under what it should be |
| 06:38.05 | hyperChipmunk | the @@ in pastebin is how to designate a line you want unhighlighted |
| 06:38.13 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 06:38.22 | hyperChipmunk | or hypnotized |
| 06:38.30 | Tekcub | I did the nice "oh don't ask for shit in the changes thread" thing and they got ignored |
| 06:38.40 | Tekcub | I ask for changes in the thread and they happen |
| 06:38.53 | hyperChipmunk | ah, well |
| 06:39.16 | MoonWolf | FryGuy, you need to explain what is or is not happening for me to help you. |
| 06:39.28 | FryGuy | um |
| 06:40.07 | FryGuy | it always does the return on line 183 |
| 06:40.14 | FryGuy | when the function is called from the tooltip code |
| 06:40.40 | hyperChipmunk | it means you're a failure and nobody likes you |
| 06:40.42 | FryGuy | whereas if I do it from the commandline code (line 219) it works |
| 06:40.44 | FryGuy | :( |
| 06:40.45 | hyperChipmunk | not even wobin |
| 06:40.57 | FryGuy | ya i know, but if you could help me that'd be nice :p |
| 06:41.01 | hyperChipmunk | and he's like the retarded kid who's everyone's friend |
| 06:41.31 | FryGuy | is it like a datatype issue or something? :/ |
| 06:42.09 | kergoth | ah nvidia.. how i hate thee, but how well you work in linux |
| 06:42.12 | FryGuy | oh wow |
| 06:42.15 | FryGuy | there's a problem I see |
| 06:42.34 | Wobin | Goddamnit |
| 06:42.52 | Wobin | If the official forums were faster, I'd post more |
| 06:42.54 | MoonWolf | FryGuy, go fix it then. |
| 06:43.01 | hyperChipmunk | you mean "guaaaaa" |
| 06:43.02 | Wobin | But it takes so long just to make a single post |
| 06:43.24 | hyperChipmunk | wobin says, 'hrnnnnnnn' |
| 06:43.37 | kergoth | jlfkshalghsoeahteh1w56$@#%^$!#^#@!^# |
| 06:43.51 | FryGuy | hmm wtf's wrong :( |
| 06:44.01 | MoonWolf | kergoth, X.conf backups ? |
| 06:44.19 | hyperChipmunk | yea, kerg, that's a pretty good impression of an nvidia kernel driver =) |
| 06:44.21 | kergoth | nothing from back when it performed well, that was like 2 installs of linux ago :) |
| 06:44.44 | FryGuy | er wait the error was in my debug code |
| 06:44.59 | kergoth | i'm just farther along the debugging of my crappy wow performance. turns out it isnt specific to wow or cedega, theres something up with fglrx on my system |
| 06:45.40 | Mikma | Tekcub: good post about the hidden raid |
| 06:45.45 | MoonWolf | oh HAPPY FUN times. |
| 06:46.17 | FryGuy | this makes no sense :( |
| 06:46.50 | Kebinusan | bleh I hate that, I go to bwl to make flasks... and forget the damn vials |
| 06:47.01 | MoonWolf | FryGuy, I'm at work right now and I can' t see the problem right away, I' ll help you debugg when i get home. that should be in about 7 hours. |
| 06:48.07 | Mikma | http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-en&ThreadID=49085 |
| 06:48.15 | Mikma | decided to put my efforts in the work too |
| 06:49.48 | Wobin | FryGuy: Don't use AceDB =P |
| 06:49.54 | Wobin | It's more pain than it's worth =P |
| 06:50.17 | FryGuy | i found the bug :( |
| 06:50.26 | FryGuy | it's that "18103" ~= 18103 |
| 06:50.35 | Wobin | heh |
| 06:50.52 | mjc | FryGuy: you're the author of frylistdkp? |
| 06:51.06 | Mikma | hehehe |
| 06:51.17 | Mikma | i just noticed cladhaire's post and just had to edit mine |
| 06:51.24 | Wobin | hehe |
| 06:51.33 | Wobin | I was hoping you'd add more |
| 06:51.44 | FryGuy | i would hope so :P |
| 06:52.16 | Wobin | Not that you added much =P |
| 06:52.27 | Wobin | Hm |
| 06:52.49 | Wobin | I'd want email updates to threads I've posted to... but I can see how that might be... excessive with the number of readers |
| 06:53.36 | FryGuy | mjc: why do you ask? |
| 06:54.16 | mjc | FryGuy: be nice to have the parse.php in C or some bytecode language so that it can pull data off my dkp site directly into the folder |
| 06:54.20 | mjc | and beuseful after /rl |
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| 06:56.26 | FryGuy | heh |
| 06:56.38 | FryGuy | get wamp and run it on localhost :) |
| 06:56.50 | FryGuy | at the bottom of parse.php there's a code to save the file |
| 06:57.05 | FryGuy | or there's a php.exe standalone way you can do it |
| 06:57.20 | FryGuy | it's like `php.exe -c parse.php` i think |
| 07:03.29 | Mikma | http://wow.jaslaughter.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=921ቩ |
| 07:05.32 | MoonWolf | ahahhhaha |
| 07:07.07 | Mikma | whoever made that post could simply delete it |
| 07:07.27 | MoonWolf | does that peice of forum software support that though ? |
| 07:07.45 | Mikma | well if not he could erase his text |
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| 07:08.25 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4099 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: AceLocale - fixed error messages |
| 07:10.17 | MoonWolf | User: "When I type in the password wrong, I can't get in." |
| 07:10.30 | mjc | MoonWolf: ahahah |
| 07:10.34 | Mikma | well no matter if my addon sucks ass, some people seem to like it heh |
| 07:10.44 | mjc | FryGuy: I know but it'd be nice for that to be a binary |
| 07:11.51 | mjc | FryGuy: input your dkp site here. inpput location to save information here. |
| 07:11.58 | mjc | click 'go' |
| 07:13.20 | mjc | svn: PROPFIND of '/Ace': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://svn.wowace.com) |
| 07:13.25 | mjc | meh what's the url |
| 07:13.37 | Mikma | mjc: add /root |
| 07:13.38 | Thrae|Away | svn.wowace.com/root |
| 07:13.50 | mjc | thanks |
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| 07:20.57 | Mikma | just got an idea about bartender. maybe i should add a smart way of databaseimport :P |
| 07:21.07 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 07:21.24 | Mikma | the only problem is Bartender does save the sv as Bartender.lua and it needs to be renamed to other |
| 07:21.47 | Mikma | i would love a feature to say "save settings as 'thisandthat.lua'" |
| 07:22.22 | hyperChipmunk | you mean like a SavedVariable? |
| 07:22.38 | hyperChipmunk | why does it need to be a different file? |
| 07:22.48 | Thrae|Away | What's wrong with the default SavedVariable interface? |
| 07:22.48 | FryGuy | i guess i'll steal that code from bulkmail :p |
| 07:22.49 | hyperChipmunk | a lua chunk is a lua chunk |
| 07:22.49 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 07:22.55 | hyperChipmunk | thief! |
| 07:23.06 | hyperChipmunk | pirate! |
| 07:23.27 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: by that way i could rename the addon code to something else and have people import their Bartender.lua from SV into the folder of Bartender and have it load that file first |
| 07:23.35 | FryGuy | :O |
| 07:23.43 | FryGuy | sorry i didn't know how to do what I wanted! |
| 07:23.47 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 07:23.52 | hyperChipmunk | no, actually I'm flattered |
| 07:23.54 | Mikma | or, save the variables as BarConfig.lua and make the addon to load that |
| 07:24.14 | hyperChipmunk | why not just save it as another table, like everyone else? |
| 07:24.34 | Mikma | atleast what i think is the game will save the variables based on the addon's .lua, right? |
| 07:25.09 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but you can have as many savedvariables within that file as you like |
| 07:25.17 | Mikma | yea i know |
| 07:25.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 07:26.04 | kergoth | disabling full screen antialiasing made my framerate go from 13 to 80 |
| 07:26.12 | kergoth | sure is a lot more jaggy, but what the hell |
| 07:26.14 | hyperChipmunk | gj nub |
| 07:26.21 | Mikma | but i wan't the configfile to be another name than the addon so people could just drag & drop their existing .lua with saved places to addon folder without having to rename the file / fearing it will override the addon code |
| 07:26.49 | hyperChipmunk | so name your file something different |
| 07:27.18 | Mikma | which file? |
| 07:27.28 | hyperChipmunk | the one in your bartender directory |
| 07:27.44 | Mikma | addoncode or locationfile |
| 07:27.56 | hyperChipmunk | whichever one is Bartender.lua |
| 07:28.10 | hyperChipmunk | that way it won't be overwritten |
| 07:28.31 | Mikma | ok. Let's imagine i change the maincode Bartender.lua to BarCode.lua. won't the SavedVariables-file be named BarCode.lua too? |
| 07:28.40 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 07:28.52 | Mikma | well what then? |
| 07:29.15 | hyperChipmunk | you could name it to WobinSux.lua, so long as you point to it correctly in the .toc/xml files |
| 07:29.25 | hyperChipmunk | it'll always be the name of your directory/toc |
| 07:29.59 | Mikma | so if i have the .toc names as Bartender.toc and the addoncode named as BarCode.lua, which one will the SavedVariables be names? |
| 07:30.12 | hyperChipmunk | Bartender |
| 07:30.18 | Mikma | oh? |
| 07:30.21 | hyperChipmunk | heck, look at a lot of ace addons |
| 07:30.28 | hyperChipmunk | all they have is Core.lua and locals.lua |
| 07:30.37 | Mikma | i really thought it would be named as the addoncode is |
| 07:30.49 | hyperChipmunk | your addoncode has no self-identity |
| 07:30.56 | hyperChipmunk | only the toc |
| 07:31.03 | hyperChipmunk | lua chunks are lua chunks |
| 07:31.07 | Mikma | that changes everything |
| 07:31.16 | Mikma | then there's no need for the "feature" i said |
| 07:31.25 | Mikma | if it will be named after dir/toc |
| 07:31.44 | Mikma | will make it easy then |
| 07:31.49 | hyperChipmunk | most people do it by making a simple loader addon |
| 07:31.58 | hyperChipmunk | that you can run once and delete |
| 07:32.19 | FryGuy | woah this is complicated |
| 07:32.27 | FryGuy | you have to do all this just to get what item they clicked on? :/ |
| 07:32.32 | ckknight | in Ace2, use Locale, not Locals |
| 07:32.34 | ckknight | it makes more sense. |
| 07:32.57 | ckknight | least AceLocale is designed that way |
| 07:33.00 | hyperChipmunk | FryGuy: in what situation? |
| 07:33.05 | FryGuy | uh |
| 07:33.20 | FryGuy | i want to alt-click an item and open a dewdrop menu and know the item's itemid |
| 07:34.09 | FryGuy | i got the bag & slot.. can i just use the wow api to get the item? |
| 07:34.15 | FryGuy | with your code I mean |
| 07:34.21 | hyperChipmunk | GetContainerItemLink(frame:GetParent():GetID(), frame:GetID()) |
| 07:34.27 | hyperChipmunk | wel |
| 07:34.35 | hyperChipmunk | string.find the id out of that |
| 07:34.44 | FryGuy | ya i got all that code already :) |
| 07:35.31 | hyperChipmunk | I have to get all frames with that corresponding bag/slot, among all different addons |
| 07:35.35 | hyperChipmunk | that's what the complication is |
| 07:35.42 | FryGuy | ooh |
| 07:35.43 | FryGuy | i see |
| 07:35.47 | FryGuy | so you can highlight htem? |
| 07:35.51 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 07:36.00 | FryGuy | yay |
| 07:36.02 | Thrae|Away | ckknight: BTW, Adding a collectgarbage() at the bottom of my file or at ADDON_LOADED doesn't fool Warmup ;) |
| 07:36.02 | hyperChipmunk | it was originally designed without a gui |
| 07:36.03 | FryGuy | thanks hc :) |
| 07:36.10 | ckknight | Thrae|Away, really? |
| 07:36.11 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:36.13 | hyperChipmunk | and it can still be used as such |
| 07:36.22 | Wobin | Mikma: CAn't you just add a MySAvedBarVariables to the toc? |
| 07:36.24 | hyperChipmunk | with the highlighting the indicator |
| 07:36.29 | Thrae|Away | Actually adding it at the bottom of my file causes Warmup to think it takes up MORE memory. |
| 07:36.31 | FryGuy | now I just need to get dewdrop working |
| 07:36.35 | FryGuy | is there a good tutorial? :p |
| 07:36.37 | hyperChipmunk | that sets the table name |
| 07:36.38 | FryGuy | i'll look |
| 07:36.43 | hyperChipmunk | not the filename |
| 07:36.50 | Wobin | ah, j |
| 07:36.51 | Wobin | k |
| 07:36.52 | Mikma | Wobin: ? |
| 07:37.04 | hyperChipmunk | he's an idiot |
| 07:37.11 | hyperChipmunk | don't pay attention to that lewz0r |
| 07:37.34 | Wobin | Isn't he cute |
| 07:38.04 | hyperChipmunk | i heard he once lost a duel to a feral druid |
| 07:38.15 | FryGuy | dewdroplib is the one that is the expanding menus with checkboxes and stuff right? |
| 07:38.20 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 07:38.22 | Wobin | I was afk =P |
| 07:38.23 | hyperChipmunk | aye |
| 07:38.27 | hyperChipmunk | hehe =D |
| 07:38.29 | Wobin | But it was close =P |
| 07:38.36 | MoonWolf | dewdrop is the best thing since titanpanel. |
| 07:38.50 | Wobin | since? |
| 07:38.53 | Wobin | feh |
| 07:39.00 | Wobin | It's better than titanpanel =) |
| 07:39.15 | hyperChipmunk | dewdrop cured my sick dog |
| 07:39.26 | Wobin | wewt. |
| 07:39.32 | Wobin | PlowKing is now Ace2'd |
| 07:39.35 | Mikma | yeah i just did a test, renamed Bartender.lua to Core.lua and changed it into .toc... the SV is Bartender.lua. sweet, will make DB-import much easier now :D |
| 07:39.38 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk: Did it heal your raid? |
| 07:39.40 | hyperChipmunk | then wobin killed it anyway =\ |
| 07:39.49 | Wobin | yeah, I was afk =( |
| 07:39.55 | hyperChipmunk | hehehe |
| 07:40.07 | FryGuy | what about tabletlib? :p |
| 07:40.11 | hyperChipmunk | no, alas, it must ye still unfinished |
| 07:40.16 | Wobin | Tabletlib is good |
| 07:40.20 | Wobin | but not as good as Dewdrop |
| 07:40.24 | FryGuy | where's the docs :( |
| 07:40.43 | Wobin | For Dewdrop and TabletLib? |
| 07:40.50 | FryGuy | aye |
| 07:40.52 | Wobin | The API files in with the directory |
| 07:41.13 | Wobin | In ckknight typical HUGE FONT |
| 07:41.25 | ckknight | not anymore |
| 07:41.27 | ckknight | wikitastic |
| 07:41.29 | Wobin | s/typical/trademark |
| 07:41.38 | ckknight | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Dewdrop-2.0 |
| 07:41.42 | ckknight | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Tablet-2.0 |
| 07:42.00 | FryGuy | oh it's 2.0? |
| 07:42.03 | Wobin | Fry's using 1.0 though |
| 07:42.05 | ckknight | oh |
| 07:42.06 | ckknight | um |
| 07:42.06 | FryGuy | i wonder if I should make my mod 2.0 |
| 07:42.11 | FryGuy | it's not hard is it? |
| 07:42.15 | ckknight | no |
| 07:42.17 | Wobin | Depends on when you want to release it =) |
| 07:42.18 | ckknight | it's not |
| 07:42.22 | FryGuy | although I'm using acedb so i've heard it's confusling |
| 07:42.24 | ckknight | I'm making FuBar 2.0 now |
| 07:42.32 | Wobin | acedb is horrible =( |
| 07:42.37 | ckknight | AceDB-2.0 is much better |
| 07:42.38 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:42.40 | FryGuy | well |
| 07:42.45 | Thrae|Away | ckknight: Have you ever made a Tooltip dynamically? |
| 07:42.52 | hyperChipmunk | AceDB-2.0 is <3 |
| 07:43.19 | hyperChipmunk | it's like if my dog came back to life as a zombie and ran wobin over in a car |
| 07:43.24 | hyperChipmunk | that's how good it is |
| 07:43.29 | ckknight | yes |
| 07:43.40 | ckknight | Thrae|Away, see Gratuity-2.0 |
| 07:43.46 | FryGuy | i would want to use the "account" setting for dkp-type settings right? |
| 07:43.51 | ckknight | yes. |
| 07:44.01 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk: That'd be kinda cool, actually |
| 07:44.24 | Wobin | Imagine the street cred I'd get. "I got run over by a zombie dog that can drive a car!" |
| 07:45.33 | hyperChipmunk | yea, you'd prolly get a speech by snoop dog at your funeral |
| 07:45.35 | FryGuy | is http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/Ace2/Alpha/ still the correct path for ace2? |
| 07:45.42 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 07:45.45 | hyperChipmunk | trunk/Ace2 |
| 07:45.48 | FryGuy | or http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Ace2/ |
| 07:45.49 | FryGuy | ok |
| 07:45.54 | FryGuy | fix the docs then :) |
| 07:46.05 | FryGuy | er i guess i could |
| 07:46.08 | FryGuy | but I don't have an acct |
| 07:46.10 | hyperChipmunk | the .toc example in the docs needs updated too |
| 07:46.16 | hyperChipmunk | at least, last i checked |
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| 07:48.33 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4100 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - fixed odd error |
| 07:49.00 | ckknight | where does it say in the docs? |
| 07:50.06 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4101 10JostleLib/Jostle-2.0/Jostle-2.0.lua: Jostle - fixed major version |
| 07:51.08 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r4102 10/branches/Bartender/ (6 files): Bartender: Minor changes, mainly filenames |
| 07:51.34 | CIA-7 | 03fryguy * r4103 10FryListDKP/ (6 files): temp commit to grab externals |
| 07:52.22 | MoonWolf | update spreee |
| 07:52.46 | Mikma | what can we say... wowace.com rocks like cocks |
| 07:52.51 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:52.58 | CIA-7 | 03fryguy * r4104 10FryListDKP/: lern2spel |
| 07:53.12 | ckknight | FryGuy, you're committing wrong |
| 07:53.18 | FryGuy | oh ya :( |
| 07:53.26 | ckknight | prefix your commit notes with your project |
| 07:53.28 | FryGuy | sorry i forgot about that |
| 07:54.18 | Mikma | yeah atleast svnX doesn't show the names on revision list, therefore the projectname infront is pretty good to be |
| 07:54.39 | kergoth | meh |
| 07:56.10 | Mikma | i must say.. BarFuncs.lua turned out to be pretty nifty after all |
| 07:56.54 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/Bartender/BarFuncs.lua |
| 07:57.36 | ckknight | what's it do? |
| 07:58.39 | Mikma | ckknight: it will display grid for all blizzard actionbuttons (default ui doesn't show them for AB1-12), and removes the gray border around the buttons. also changes KeyRing not to pop up eve if you set it :Hide() |
| 07:58.56 | Mikma | oh and the grid is colored darkblue |
| 07:59.08 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:59.30 | Mikma | and by grid i mean the one coming up when you open spellbook or drag spells. and it will also show and hide the keybinds for empty spots |
| 07:59.56 | Mikma | it can be used with ie. CardBars, and not having to change it at all.. i think :D |
| 08:00.08 | Mikma | just put the .lua in .toc and it should work nicely |
| 08:00.30 | Mikma | oh yeah, and also shows talent-button for levels under 10, eventho it won't work for them ;) |
| 08:02.16 | CIA-7 | 03fryguy * r4105 10FryListDKP/: FryListDKP: A couple more externals for Ace2 |
| 08:02.28 | Mikma | god damn, the forecast says there will be over 30°C in the weekend in here |
| 08:03.27 | Wobin | moan moan complain complain =P |
| 08:03.27 | ckknight | yea, but you're on celcius, not fahrenheit. Celcius is probably colder. |
| 08:03.47 | Wobin | It's 36degC here atm =P |
| 08:03.50 | ckknight | like 0 degrees is freezing for Celcius |
| 08:04.01 | Mikma | and i must remind you all that in winters we have something like -20°C in here |
| 08:04.03 | ckknight | 30 isn't too far off |
| 08:04.20 | Mikma | i think last winter they break the record with nearly -50°C |
| 08:04.32 | Shyva | o.0 |
| 08:04.37 | ckknight | where are you? |
| 08:04.53 | Shyva | 30degC here, I like it :) |
| 08:05.04 | Mikma | ckknight: Finland |
| 08:05.27 | Mikma | (it's the place near northpole haha) |
| 08:05.45 | ckknight | so like you're neighbors with Santa? |
| 08:06.01 | ckknight | cause I mean, I don't trust Santa |
| 08:06.09 | ckknight | he never gives me the cool gifts anymore |
| 08:06.12 | Mikma | good don't, he's an evil lying bastard |
| 08:06.39 | Mikma | http://www.santapark.fi/ |
| 08:07.22 | Wobin | ckknight: Oh of course =P Since the numbers are closer together in Celcius, it means that everything's colder =P |
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| 08:07.43 | ckknight | Wobin, right. |
| 08:07.48 | Mikma | C as Cold |
| 08:07.50 | CIA-7 | 03shyva * r4106 10BigWigs/AQ20/Ossirian.lua: BigWigs: Fixed event bug in Ossirian.lua |
| 08:08.03 | ckknight | our 0 degrees is warmer than their 0 degrees |
| 08:08.17 | hyperChipmunk | K is for Krazy Kold |
| 08:09.05 | Mikma | 0 means usually that lakes start to freeze :P |
| 08:09.12 | Mikma | and roads turn slippery |
| 08:10.28 | Wobin | See, Celsius makes sense |
| 08:10.42 | FryGuy | does acedb work similarly to 1.0? |
| 08:10.43 | Wobin | 0 == freezing, 100 == boiling |
| 08:11.00 | Mikma | Wobin: well, yeah, 100 means water starts to boil |
| 08:11.01 | FryGuy | like would this be correct? there's not really much docs on actually using it |
| 08:11.02 | FryGuy | self.db.account.info[UnitName("target")].class = UnitClass("target") |
| 08:11.50 | Mikma | usually when temperature goes near 0 it means that on the next morning all the ponds and such are frozen and the roads really are slippery because of the black ice |
| 08:15.08 | hyperChipmunk | farenheit makes sense for weather |
| 08:15.20 | hyperChipmunk | celsius for science |
| 08:16.39 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:16.44 | Wobin | Should I name it PlowKing2? |
| 08:16.54 | hyperChipmunk | PlowEmperor |
| 08:16.56 | Wobin | even if it doesn't make sense? |
| 08:17.07 | Wobin | Bah, screw it. |
| 08:17.09 | hyperChipmunk | PlowCzar |
| 08:17.11 | Wobin | It'll just be PlowKing |
| 08:17.20 | hyperChipmunk | I kept BUlkMail |
| 08:17.27 | Wobin | I don't want to have to transcript into cyrillic, hC |
| 08:17.30 | Mikma | wobler |
| 08:17.37 | hyperChipmunk | but I'd call it PlowCzar |
| 08:17.37 | Mikma | or wobbly |
| 08:17.40 | hyperChipmunk | that'd rule |
| 08:17.42 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 08:17.56 | hyperChipmunk | literally! |
| 08:19.09 | sedatedChipmunk | night folks |
| 08:19.36 | ckknight | g'night |
| 08:19.48 | CIA-7 | 03wobin * r4107 10PlowKing/ (9 files): |
| 08:19.48 | CIA-7 | PlowKing - Now Ace-2.0! |
| 08:19.49 | CIA-7 | - Please to be deleting all previous savefiles. |
| 08:19.49 | CIA-7 | - Minimal functionality |
| 08:19.49 | CIA-7 | - Single frame view |
| 08:19.49 | CIA-7 | - Rightclick on category name to set Active |
| 08:19.54 | Wobin | night chipper |
| 08:19.56 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 08:20.06 | sedatedChipmunk | 'Minimal functionality' <---is that a feature? |
| 08:20.10 | Wobin | absolutely! |
| 08:20.13 | Mikma | hehe |
| 08:20.18 | ckknight | hooray for minimalism |
| 08:20.27 | sedatedChipmunk | awesome; so it's an improvement |
| 08:20.30 | Wobin | (In that it works! Minimally at best =)) |
| 08:20.58 | Mikma | Wobin: i agree! |
| 08:21.23 | Mikma | that's the reason i deleted almost all features from Bartender 1.04 :) |
| 08:21.43 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4108 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: |
| 08:21.44 | CIA-7 | WitchHunt: |
| 08:21.44 | CIA-7 | * Fixed the toggle for targetonly |
| 08:23.12 | CIA-7 | 03fryguy * r4109 10FryListDKP/ (5 files): FryListDKP: Another step on the road to ace 2.0 |
| 08:23.25 | kergoth | foo |
| 08:25.12 | phyber | morning |
| 08:25.33 | FryGuy | bar |
| 08:27.01 | FryGuy | wow what kind of error is this :( |
| 08:27.09 | FryGuy | [01:26-953] attempt to compare nil with string |
| 08:27.09 | FryGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:27.33 | MoonWolf | well |
| 08:27.39 | MoonWolf | isn' t that kinda obvious |
| 08:27.44 | FryGuy | wheerre |
| 08:27.45 | Wobin | you're missing the first line of that error btw |
| 08:27.55 | Wobin | disable bugsack or something and try again |
| 08:28.12 | Wobin | All of the bugsack/FullError type addons do that for some reason =( |
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| 08:35.01 | FryGuy | uh no :( |
| 08:35.05 | FryGuy | that's the full error |
| 08:36.14 | FryGuy | i think it has to do with me using L"blah" outside of a function |
| 08:36.46 | FryGuy | hmm i guess not :( |
| 08:37.30 | kergoth | bleh |
| 08:38.41 | MoonWolf | blizzard should fix the error reporting code then |
| 08:40.07 | FryGuy | oh it was because i put "AceLocale-2.0" into the mixins |
| 08:44.54 | CIA-7 | 03fryguy * r4110 10FryListDKP/ (. FryListDKP-enUS.lua FryListDKP.lua FryListDKP.toc): FryListDKP: Hopefully the last time i need to mess with externals |
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| 08:55.52 | ckknight | FryGuy, hrm |
| 08:55.57 | ckknight | that's not an obvious error |
| 08:56.02 | ckknight | should be fixed... |
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| 09:00.18 | Elkano | ok, since there haven't been any new bug reports for EBB's svn version, I'll bundle 1.2 now :) |
| 09:02.33 | [Ammo] | there's one complaint |
| 09:02.39 | [Ammo] | it's not Ace2.0 |
| 09:02.45 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 09:02.49 | CIA-7 | 03elkano * r4111 10ElkBuffBar/readme.txt: |
| 09:02.49 | CIA-7 | ElkBuffBar: |
| 09:02.49 | CIA-7 | - updated readme for 1.2 |
| 09:03.43 | CIA-7 | 03elkano 071.2 * r4112 10ElkBuffBar/: ElkBuffBar: tag for 1.2 |
| 09:03.52 | Elkano | it's not a bug, it's a feature ;) |
| 09:04.38 | [Ammo] | it's a complaint! |
| 09:08.03 | Elkano | well, I haven't looked at Ace2.0, yet. Thus I don't know yet to what extend it would come in handy. |
| 09:08.10 | [Ammo] | it's so damn easy |
| 09:09.33 | [Ammo] | the main thing is the profiling, easy commandline options, etc |
| 09:09.59 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07FuBar-compat-1.2 * r4113 10FuBar/: FuBar-compat-1.2 - initial |
| 09:10.35 | [Ammo] | I converted witchhunt in 1 hour or so rebuilding it from scratch |
| 09:10.51 | [Ammo] | amazed at the easy, so I applaud CKk, Kaelten, Clad for their work |
| 09:10.59 | [Ammo] | s/easy/ease/ |
| 09:11.48 | ckknight | don't tell the others, but I wrote about 80% of it or so |
| 09:11.49 | ckknight | shh |
| 09:12.51 | [Ammo] | hence your name was first in the list! |
| 09:15.21 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4114 10BigWigs/BWL/Chromaggus.lua: |
| 09:15.21 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Chromaggus): |
| 09:15.22 | CIA-7 | * Replaced the Timex timer for resetting the vulnerability with a Metrognome one |
| 09:18.53 | ckknight | it's also alphabetical, ammo |
| 09:19.08 | [Ammo] | c k c ? |
| 09:19.23 | [Ammo] | dunno what alfphabet you're using :p |
| 09:19.28 | ckknight | whatever |
| 09:19.29 | ckknight | don't care. |
| 09:19.30 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 09:19.54 | CIA-7 | 03shyva * r4115 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Anubrekhan.lua: BigWigs: Added a timer to start Locust swarm after Anub starts casting. |
| 09:23.13 | XLVII | this may seem stupid to ask, but what's the best pve class? |
| 09:23.24 | [Ammo] | depends on what you like |
| 09:23.34 | [Ammo] | there's a class for every situation |
| 09:24.25 | XLVII | general solo pve. |
| 09:24.35 | XLVII | with plenty of pvp once i hit 60 |
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| 09:24.47 | [Ammo] | hunter I'd say, or warlock :) |
| 09:24.52 | XLVII | ok |
| 09:24.58 | n0time | bleh, shyva here -_- stupid DC's |
| 09:25.05 | [Ammo] | doh |
| 09:25.31 | Wobin | yeah |
| 09:25.37 | Wobin | hunter is easiest for solo pve |
| 09:25.51 | Wobin | FD ftw |
| 09:26.05 | Wobin | rogue would come in second, maybe |
| 09:26.08 | Wobin | lock only cause of the pet |
| 09:26.30 | [Ammo] | warlock because of pet + dots |
| 09:26.36 | [Ammo] | and pvp at 60 |
| 09:26.42 | [Ammo] | I love WSG with my lock |
| 09:26.54 | [Ammo] | soullinked feldoggy out, and just eat shamans for breakfast |
| 09:28.59 | XLVII | s/test/testing |
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| 09:29.11 | XLVII | isn't that like, a linux command? |
| 09:29.17 | XLVII | thank for your help [ammo] |
| 09:29.23 | XLVII | s/thanks/thank |
| 09:29.38 | XLVII | it doesn't love me. |
| 09:29.55 | XLVII | s/thanks/thank/ |
| 09:30.03 | XLVII | this is a test |
| 09:30.07 | XLVII | this is a tes |
| 09:30.13 | XLVII | s/tes/test/ |
| 09:30.17 | XLVII | woot. |
| 09:31.35 | kergoth | welp, i got rid of most of my performance issues.. now to resolve the issue with targeting / entering or leaving stealth lag |
| 09:31.50 | kergoth | last time i hit the lag issues, switching to a preempt kernel solved it.. will see |
| 09:31.59 | Jens | I've gotten a bug report for my mod :( |
| 09:32.11 | Jens | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5121 |
| 09:32.15 | Jens | But I can't reproduce. |
| 09:32.27 | Jens | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5121 <-- source |
| 09:32.42 | Jens | Arg, wrong paste. |
| 09:32.45 | Jens | http://ace.pastebin.ca/80328 <-- source |
| 09:33.12 | Jens | Seems related to BabbleLib somehow. |
| 09:34.44 | FryGuy | FryListDKP.lua:208: table index is nil |
| 09:34.44 | FryGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:34.54 | FryGuy | that means you're doing var[x] where x is nil right? |
| 09:35.58 | CIA-7 | 03shyva * r4116 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Anubrekhan.lua: BigWigs: Changed the timer for Anubrekhan from 3 sec to 3.25 sec. |
| 09:39.25 | FryGuy | oh i see my problem :( |
| 09:39.35 | FryGuy | i was assuming my lambda function would save the state of the var |
| 09:40.13 | kergoth | time to read more about how closures behave in lua, eh? |
| 09:41.13 | Wobin | Jens: pastebin your toc? |
| 09:41.55 | Jens | http://ace.pastebin.ca/80333 |
| 09:43.47 | Wobin | Put the babblelib ref before your lua refs |
| 09:44.02 | Jens | Okay. |
| 09:44.08 | Wobin | That way your file can reference it |
| 09:44.22 | Jens | Any idea why I don't get this error, but random people do? |
| 09:44.28 | Wobin | The reason why -you- can't replicate the problem is that Babblelib is loaded elswhere first for you |
| 09:44.33 | Wobin | probably on FuBar or something |
| 09:44.43 | Jens | Ah... |
| 09:44.44 | Wobin | so you're using a prevoiusly called instance |
| 09:44.49 | Jens | Of course. |
| 09:45.11 | XLVII | does anyone know of any 'cool' looking damage meters? |
| 09:45.15 | Jens | In other news... I just broke Ace. |
| 09:46.11 | Wobin | Jens: Woohoo! |
| 09:46.42 | Jens | Ace throws an error on startup now, and all I changed was commenting out a line that spams to the chat window... sigh. |
| 09:47.26 | XLVII | can anyone make some damage meters that have bars that look like this - http://mysite.verizon.net/vze74c6r/AceLucenFramesSS.jpg? |
| 09:47.36 | [Ammo] | you can just modify the normal damagemeters |
| 09:47.42 | XLVII | you can? |
| 09:47.46 | [Ammo] | ask Haste/Otravi :) |
| 09:47.49 | [Ammo] | he did it |
| 09:47.50 | Jens | This is probably one of those days where I should put down the code, and go outside in the sunshine with a cold beer. |
| 09:48.36 | Jens | Interface\AddOns\Ace\Ace.lua:169: No key supplied to AceDatabase:set. |
| 09:49.00 | Jens | I think my recent round of SVN updates pulled in some nasty code from somwhere :) |
| 09:50.27 | Kebinusan | swstats can do bars like that I think |
| 09:50.49 | Kebinusan | I just realized why I hate pvp... I get into this premade... and they're just swapping flag caps.. not killign eachother |
| 09:51.02 | [Ammo] | that's not pvp that's honorgrind |
| 09:51.23 | Kebinusan | yeah... pretty much |
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| 09:52.29 | XLVII | Jen, I am listening to that song. |
| 09:52.39 | XLVII | Well, I was before I started watching boss fights. |
| 09:53.36 | Jens | Note to self: Turning amp volume way up while listening to RATM also turns up WoW sounds. |
| 09:53.41 | Jens | Ouch. |
| 09:54.04 | Wobin | omg |
| 09:54.12 | Wobin | There's a Blade: The Series, tv show? |
| 09:54.28 | haste_ | Jens, get better drivers :p |
| 09:54.58 | Jens | I usually have WoW running on a second soundcard, and Foobar2000 on another... but not today. |
| 09:55.17 | MoonWolf | on two soundcards ? |
| 09:55.31 | [Ammo] | me too |
| 09:55.38 | [Ammo] | mp3 on one soundcard, wow on the other |
| 09:55.52 | Jens | I have the onboard sound, and a Terratec EWX 24/96 hooked up to my amp for music playing. |
| 09:57.05 | Jens | Back on topic: are there any reserved variable names in LUA? Things seems to have gone bad after I made a variable called STFU_NAME. |
| 09:59.24 | Tuplad | jens, you run foobar ? |
| 09:59.33 | Jens | Yes. |
| 09:59.33 | Tuplad | and in foobar you increase volume ? |
| 09:59.37 | Jens | No. |
| 09:59.42 | Tuplad | where then ? |
| 09:59.50 | Jens | Volume dial on my amp. |
| 09:59.58 | Tuplad | wth is an amp ? :o |
| 10:00.03 | Jens | Amplifier. |
| 10:00.25 | Tuplad | oh |
| 10:00.35 | Tuplad | that thingie that you can scroll to increase/decrease volume ? |
| 10:00.44 | Tuplad | A device that increases the power or amplitude of a signal. |
| 10:00.59 | Jens | Big black box with speakers connected to it. |
| 10:01.09 | Tuplad | same stuff :] |
| 10:01.24 | Tuplad | just bind ctrl + to increase volume and ctrl - to decrease, and make it global hotkeys |
| 10:01.45 | [Ammo] | why trust the soundcard to output more volume when you have an amp sitting next to you |
| 10:02.18 | Jens | Or... move left hand about 50 cm to the left, and manipulate volume dial until desired volume is achieved. |
| 10:02.38 | MoonWolf | i adjust my volume in 4 places |
| 10:02.44 | MoonWolf | wait 3 |
| 10:03.01 | MoonWolf | windows, the appliaction, the speakers and the headphones plugged into the speaker. |
| 10:03.02 | [Ammo] | jens: that's what I meant |
| 10:03.04 | MoonWolf | so that is 4 |
| 10:03.20 | Jens | If you want to get anal about it, software attenuation creates dithering noise in the bitstream :) |
| 10:04.54 | Jens | Not that I care. |
| 10:06.10 | Wobin | Jens: STFU_NAME shouldn't be a problem |
| 10:06.15 | Wobin | What's the error that's occuring? |
| 10:07.24 | Jens | I narrowed it down to declaring 'STFU_NAME = "AceSTFU"' and using that in 'AceAddon:new' as 'name = "STFU_NAME"' |
| 10:07.47 | Tuplad | Jens, there's an addon named "STFU" on ui.worldofwar.net |
| 10:07.53 | Tuplad | It has been released like a year ago :) |
| 10:08.02 | Jens | I know. That's why I'm changing mine to AceSTFU henceforth. |
| 10:08.30 | Jens | But nothing I code today works :/ |
| 10:08.36 | Tuplad | :E |
| 10:09.46 | ckknight | Note: don't prefix your addons with Ace |
| 10:09.54 | Jens | Okay. Why? |
| 10:10.07 | ckknight | because it's not part of Ace |
| 10:10.13 | Jens | Ahh. |
| 10:10.18 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/wow_020.jpg .. heh, sure looks pretty, but look at the fps and ram consumption rate |
| 10:10.29 | ckknight | it just uses Ace as a framework |
| 10:10.47 | Tuplad | doesnt look pretty at all o_O |
| 10:11.06 | kergoth | what doesnt? |
| 10:11.07 | ckknight | it's like calling America EnglandAmerica |
| 10:11.09 | Tuplad | sCT |
| 10:11.15 | kergoth | it isnt sct. |
| 10:11.17 | Tuplad | you should disable all that crap sct has :\ |
| 10:11.19 | Tuplad | what is it ? :o |
| 10:11.24 | kergoth | its mik's scrolling battle text |
| 10:11.26 | ckknight | or Linux GNU/Linux |
| 10:11.52 | kergoth | and i like all the info it displays. it isnt captured well by a screenshot |
| 10:12.03 | Jens | Alright... anyways... if I could get this stuff working, I'd only need to change my addon name in one place. |
| 10:12.16 | Tuplad | :O kergoth, give link |
| 10:12.47 | kergoth | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4482-1-mikscrollingbattletext.html |
| 10:12.58 | Jens | http://ace.pastebin.ca/80353 <-- throws errors in Ace.lua |
| 10:14.13 | Jens | STFU_NAME is declared in STFU_Locals.lua as 'STFU_NAME = "AceSTFU"' (disregard the name for now, please) |
| 10:14.37 | FryGuy | hmm |
| 10:14.44 | Tuplad | that looks pretty kergoth |
| 10:14.55 | FryGuy | is there a good way to hook clicking on items in loot windows and/or links in the chat window? |
| 10:15.53 | kergoth | Tuplad: i'd recommend trying it out. its really configurable, like sct is. really cant get a good feel for it without trying it. thats true of sct too, really.. lacking the fade in/out and movement, its hard to grasp how itll be in actual use |
| 10:16.00 | kergoth | meh, i wish this lag issue would go away |
| 10:16.41 | Tuplad | kergoth - but any memory difference between the 2 addons? |
| 10:17.27 | ckknight | Jens, is this Ace1 or Ace2? |
| 10:17.31 | Jens | 1 |
| 10:17.35 | ckknight | okay |
| 10:18.04 | Tuplad | http://forums.worldofwar.net/showthread.php?p=3736408#post3736408 lol |
| 10:18.16 | Tuplad | he created a translator but is unsure wether it's accurate or not -_-" |
| 10:18.30 | Jens | If I just do 'name = "whatever"' in AceAddon:new() it's all good. |
| 10:20.31 | haste_ | Jens, is it loaded before the addon ;) ? |
| 10:20.48 | haste_ | the locals that is |
| 10:20.50 | Jens | Hmm... |
| 10:21.06 | Jens | Damn. |
| 10:21.25 | Jens | Didn't think of that, since variabled I use elsewhere in STFU.lua worked fine. |
| 10:21.30 | Jens | *variables |
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| 10:29.56 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 10:31.13 | CIA-7 | 03fryguy * r4117 10FryListDKP/ (FryListDKP-enUS.lua FryListDKP.lua FryListDKP.toc): |
| 10:31.13 | CIA-7 | FryListDKP: Got the dewdrop windows working. Unfortunately there's no |
| 10:31.13 | CIA-7 | command-line config options anymore since I couldn't figure out how to get the |
| 10:31.14 | CIA-7 | registration working. This should register on an alt-left-click of an item in |
| 10:31.14 | CIA-7 | your inventory or the loot frame. Upon doing so you can select the classes that |
| 10:31.16 | CIA-7 | can get the item & the points the item costs and broadcast it to the raid as |
| 10:31.18 | CIA-7 | well. |
| 10:31.34 | *** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 10:31.39 | Tuplad | heh, is witchhunt Ace2 now ? :< |
| 10:32.47 | Jens | Okay, STFU is out. AceSTFU is forbidden. Help me name my addon :) |
| 10:33.17 | haste_ | Tuplad, yes |
| 10:34.34 | Tuplad | haste_: will it cause any problems if I dont have Ace2 ? |
| 10:34.36 | Wobin | ImNotListening |
| 10:34.54 | Wobin | You can tack any number of "Lalalala"s to the end |
| 10:35.03 | Tuplad | jens, just name it YellBlock ? |
| 10:35.13 | Jens | Meh. |
| 10:35.13 | Wobin | Tuplad: Er, No =) Ace2 is embedded |
| 10:35.21 | Jens | STFU was catchy :/ |
| 10:35.23 | Wobin | That's the point |
| 10:37.29 | Jens | STFUPLZKTHX v1.1 |
| 10:37.53 | Tuplad | aha ! |
| 10:37.57 | Jens | Nah. |
| 10:40.37 | Jens | I could just name it "ShutTheFuckUp"... |
| 10:40.58 | Jens | Morons would probably bitch and moan about that though. |
| 10:41.42 | Industrial | morning |
| 10:42.17 | Industrial | Wobin: Hows PK doing? Got anything on the single window thingy? :) |
| 10:42.48 | Wobin | Industrial: In a way |
| 10:42.54 | Wobin | grab the latest version |
| 10:43.04 | Wobin | I'm still having issues with StickyFrames throwing errors though |
| 10:43.08 | Industrial | k |
| 10:43.26 | Wobin | Jens: BlessedSilence |
| 10:43.33 | Wobin | SilenceIsGolden |
| 10:43.38 | Wobin | SeenButNotHeard |
| 10:43.58 | Shyva | lol, Wobin, are you a name generator? :-D |
| 10:44.04 | Wobin | hehe |
| 10:44.18 | Wobin | It's either Tekk or I that comes up with the good names =) |
| 10:44.19 | Jens | "Shut Up" is probably taken too. |
| 10:44.40 | Jens | Devnull |
| 10:44.51 | MoonWolf | devnull is good |
| 10:44.55 | Jens | YUO => DEVNULL!!! v1.1 |
| 10:45.37 | MoonWolf | Talk to dev/null *makes that weird hand movement* |
| 10:46.38 | Industrial | hehe |
| 10:46.43 | Jens | I won't bother changing all instances "STFU" in the code though. |
| 10:46.49 | Jens | +of |
| 10:46.58 | Industrial | regular expression replace \o/ |
| 10:47.08 | Jens | Bah. |
| 10:47.12 | Industrial | :P |
| 10:55.15 | Industrial | Wobin: plowking isnt doing anythin at all atm |
| 10:55.37 | Industrial | Wobin: no slash commands (if any) and it doesnt open when I press the key |
| 10:55.39 | Wobin | did you wipe your DB? |
| 10:56.10 | Industrial | no :p |
| 10:57.18 | Industrial | ah hey |
| 10:57.20 | Industrial | cool :) |
| 10:58.31 | Jens | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD seems to trigger my mod to display "Yell chat enabled." some how, though I don't hook that event. |
| 11:00.36 | Jens | Ah, but only if I name the mod "/dev/null" in the toc :( |
| 11:02.17 | Jens | Wait... |
| 11:02.19 | Jens | GRR! |
| 11:02.29 | Jens | That's not it. |
| 11:02.46 | Jens | This happened after I changed STFU to devnull everywhere. |
| 11:02.56 | FryGuy | haha |
| 11:03.15 | FryGuy | i logged in to take a ss of my ui to submit to wowi and two rogues killed me in IF right as I was tking the ss :( |
| 11:03.27 | Industrial | Who knows the names of the bag frames? |
| 11:03.40 | Industrial | FryGuy: hehe |
| 11:03.52 | FryGuy | i'm like what are these red numbers on my screen |
| 11:03.55 | FryGuy | oh i'm dead :( |
| 11:03.58 | Industrial | hehehe |
| 11:04.07 | Jens | Nerf rogues. |
| 11:04.16 | FryGuy | dang |
| 11:04.23 | FryGuy | i guess my printscreen button doesn't take ss anymore :( |
| 11:04.33 | CIA-7 | 03wobin * r4118 10PaintBall/PaintBall.lua: PaintBall - Added in a 'clear targets on combat end' option |
| 11:04.43 | Industrial | I'm rock. Nerf paper. Scissors is fine. |
| 11:05.32 | FryGuy | we're allowed to release ace2 mods right? |
| 11:06.00 | Industrial | uh, why not |
| 11:06.01 | Wobin | nope |
| 11:06.04 | Industrial | not? |
| 11:06.05 | Industrial | :S |
| 11:06.09 | Wobin | Are we? |
| 11:06.16 | FryGuy | i thought it was out of the alpha state |
| 11:06.17 | Wobin | As long as you mark them Beta, I think so |
| 11:07.02 | Jens | Does this make sense? Maybe the zone info isn't available at the time the mod loads, so the comparison to the blacklisted zones is always false, so yells are enabled. |
| 11:07.16 | Wobin | maybe? |
| 11:07.31 | Wobin | maybe have it check a few seconds after it loads? |
| 11:07.56 | Jens | But that must mean that ZONE_CHANGE_NEW_AREA also fires on startup, since it disables yells, right after I login in a blacklisted zone. |
| 11:08.09 | Jens | But this didn't happen before. |
| 11:08.20 | Jens | I need a more elegant way to detect zones on startup. |
| 11:08.48 | Jens | Waiting isn't elegant :) |
| 11:11.28 | haste_ | hehe, L60 warrior with TF ganls my alt, and that person happens to be talking with me on IRC |
| 11:11.50 | haste_ | then I just relog my warlock and start poking him, untill a L60 dps warrior also joins in |
| 11:12.24 | Jens | Is there any event I can hook that will fire after all initialization is complete and everything is ready to go? |
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| 11:12.44 | Jens | Hmm, maybe WORLD_MAP_UPDATE |
| 11:13.41 | Soltanis | afternoon all |
| 11:18.45 | haste_ | hi there |
| 11:20.09 | Industrial | flkasdf where do i get a decent color picker |
| 11:20.09 | Shyva | from the wiki: "Now that Ace2 is at the RC stage, you may release your addons to the major sites." |
| 11:20.25 | Industrial | I dont want anything with HTML or the web, just want to get some pixel colors out of an image |
| 11:20.40 | Industrial | I get spammed with shitty html color picker javascript things |
| 11:20.44 | Industrial | >:| |
| 11:20.56 | Industrial | oh wait |
| 11:21.06 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 11:21.39 | phyber | 1221.00 * Industrial wakes up the gimp |
| 11:21.41 | phyber | ^ fixed |
| 11:21.50 | kergoth | argh. when i use direct3d, i get random pauses that make it really hard to play. when i use opengl, the framerate is below 10fps, unplayable |
| 11:22.18 | Industrial | kergoth: on linux? :S |
| 11:22.25 | kergoth | yep |
| 11:22.33 | kergoth | stupid ati |
| 11:22.36 | Industrial | how can you have <10fps |
| 11:22.42 | MoonWolf | kergoth, and it is now tha t you find that graphix drivers/software on linux needs some more work |
| 11:22.51 | Industrial | oh ati |
| 11:22.52 | Industrial | :\ |
| 11:22.57 | Industrial | get a geforce :P |
| 11:23.07 | MoonWolf | get decent drivers damnit! |
| 11:23.09 | haste_ | *gasps*, new Billy Talent album |
| 11:23.33 | kergoth | i much prefer ati to nvidia, but these drivers are flaming piles of crap |
| 11:23.54 | haste_ | I scrapped my ATi card last week |
| 11:23.58 | haste_ | haven't had a X lockup since |
| 11:24.38 | MoonWolf | drivers figure into graphics card choice for me too |
| 11:24.49 | Jens | If I do this in Enable() : |
| 11:24.51 | MoonWolf | and nvidia vs ati... nividia wins! |
| 11:25.03 | Jens | if GetRealZoneText() ~= "" then devnull:ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA() end |
| 11:25.21 | Jens | Can I safely assume that ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA will fire later? |
| 11:25.33 | MoonWolf | We system state reversal software here at my workplace, and the ati drivers still manage to go corrupt. |
| 11:25.35 | Jens | Since it seems to fire at some point during startup. |
| 11:25.43 | MoonWolf | the nvidia drivers never do. |
| 11:28.12 | FryGuy | ungh i have no preview image since my capture didn't work :( |
| 11:38.34 | haste_ | http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/beast+enders/ << that one slightly scares me |
| 11:42.20 | MoonWolf | riiiiight |
| 11:42.23 | MoonWolf | that was weird |
| 11:42.40 | FryGuy | /agree |
| 11:49.00 | MoonWolf | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7084489538066105747&q=word+disassociation |
| 11:51.10 | FryGuy | heh wierd video |
| 11:51.13 | FryGuy | i like that song though :P |
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| 11:53.22 | Kebinusan | wow wtf |
| 11:53.27 | Kebinusan | that beast enders thing is crazy |
| 11:53.44 | phyber | http://qdb.us/35078 |
| 12:00.20 | MvA|Slayman | OMG PHYBER I MEAN WTF ! |
| 12:00.28 | CIA-7 | 03silverwind * r4119 10BlackSheeps/ (BlackSheeps.lua BlackSheeps.toc ReadMe.txt): |
| 12:00.28 | CIA-7 | BlackSheeps: |
| 12:00.29 | CIA-7 | - Locals added |
| 12:00.29 | CIA-7 | - Shift-click buttons to insert into ChatFrameEditBox |
| 12:18.12 | haste_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-pBT9Iksts << Hard Gay ftw ;D |
| 12:21.47 | Kebinusan | hmm, lua question: Can you declare a function inside of an If statement or is this broken? http://pastebin.ca/80446 |
| 12:30.41 | Elkano | should work since you're actually setting a table entry to a functional value |
| 12:30.54 | Industrial | haste_: haha |
| 12:32.03 | Kebinusan | its not my code, it just looked really weird |
| 12:32.46 | Industrial | Kebinusan: sure you can |
| 12:33.24 | Industrial | function a() b=function() print('foo') end b() end a() |
| 12:33.26 | Industrial | foo |
| 12:33.26 | Industrial | :P |
| 12:33.50 | Kebinusan | ok |
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| 12:45.54 | Jens | WoWInterface is slow to update :( |
| 12:46.35 | Tuplad | hm |
| 12:46.40 | Tuplad | can stealth be binded to a key ? |
| 12:46.47 | Jens | *bound :) |
| 12:47.48 | MoonWolf | sure |
| 12:48.00 | MoonWolf | dump it in a regular actionslot |
| 12:48.42 | Soltanis | Tuplad : special action 1 |
| 12:50.49 | Soltanis | same for druid shifts and Warrior Staces |
| 12:50.51 | Soltanis | stances* |
| 12:52.42 | Kebinusan | if a variable isnt declared is its value nil the first time its called or does it have to be defined |
| 12:53.20 | MoonWolf | a var is nil untill it has a value assigned. |
| 12:53.33 | Kebinusan | ok thanks |
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| 13:02.08 | Tuplad | Soltanis: what you mean special action ? o_O |
| 13:02.08 | Tuplad | oh I found it :d |
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| 13:13.45 | Soltanis | :-) |
| 13:37.12 | phyber | http://www.cartalk.com/content/read-on/2006/06.17.html |
| 13:39.28 | phyber | fake, but funny list :) |
| 13:40.03 | MoonWolf | hehe |
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| 13:43.17 | Wobin | "Dan Brown...has a gift for metaphor and detail. |
| 13:43.17 | Wobin | Unfortunately, they're both seriously defective and need very badly to be returned." |
| 13:44.12 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 13:46.31 | FryGuy | have you ever heard that show? car talk? it's pretty funny :P |
| 13:46.53 | MoonWolf | never |
| 13:46.56 | MoonWolf | wrong country |
| 13:47.04 | FryGuy | can listen to it online :p |
| 13:47.06 | FryGuy | http://www.cartalk.com/Radio/Show/online.html |
| 13:49.15 | XLVII | i'm so bored! |
| 14:02.31 | Tain | Must have a good car if you can listen to car talk streaming online while in the car. |
| 14:09.28 | Tekcub | erf |
| 14:15.15 | [Ammo] | morning I guess tekk |
| 14:15.48 | Tekcub | hey ammo, in case you didn't know, there are some bug reports in my portal for BW |
| 14:16.08 | Tekcub | you might wanna jump in and commet as I don't have a clue at all if/when they get fixed :) |
| 14:16.08 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 14:16.13 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 14:16.16 | [Ammo] | I'll go and check that |
| 14:16.21 | Tain | I have a bug report to file, I tried using BW but the boss still won. |
| 14:16.22 | [Ammo] | btw how about MetroLine for metro timer bars ;) |
| 14:16.36 | [Ammo] | or Underground :) |
| 14:16.40 | [Ammo] | Subway |
| 14:16.49 | Tekcub | I'm gonna brance BW for Ace2 today... although the Timex/Ace1 dependancy will stay for the time being |
| 14:16.52 | Tain | SmellyCab |
| 14:17.05 | [Ammo] | well we need to get rid of it |
| 14:17.20 | Tekcub | I got PaintChipsLib written last night but never tested cause lexan's Ace2 was throwing n error |
| 14:17.42 | Tekcub | yea well we need someone to make TimexBars into an embed |
| 14:17.44 | Shyva | what does PaintChipsLib do? |
| 14:18.21 | Tekcub | it just manages colors, basically like what BW core was doing, but a bit more robust so other mods can use it |
| 14:18.23 | FryGuy | <[Ammo]> btw how about MetroLine for metro timer bars ;) |
| 14:18.32 | FryGuy | ooh you're making a timexbar replaecment with metro? :p |
| 14:18.57 | Tekcub | if I write it it won't use metro, it'll be entirely standalone |
| 14:19.22 | [Ammo] | which is fine |
| 14:19.44 | [Ammo] | it could reuse a lot of the metrognome code though |
| 14:20.49 | [Ammo] | answered all bugs btw Tekcub |
| 14:21.01 | [Ammo] | read my comments and correct their status plix :) |
| 14:24.35 | Shyva | I'll add the sync thingie for Shadowflame and fear at nefarian [Ammo] |
| 14:25.35 | [Ammo] | k |
| 14:26.01 | Industrial | http://pastebin.ca/80517 |
| 14:26.06 | Industrial | This addon is doing |
| 14:26.08 | Industrial | nothing.. |
| 14:26.13 | Industrial | :S |
| 14:26.19 | Industrial | *confused* |
| 14:26.34 | Industrial | Its loaded for sure but im not seeing anything |
| 14:27.07 | Industrial | ah ther ewe go, didnt see that bugsack got an error |
| 14:27.14 | Industrial | idUnitframes.lua:201: Usage: <unnamed>:SetAlpha(alpha 0 to 1) |
| 14:27.20 | Industrial | -_^ |
| 14:27.35 | [Ammo] | no oninitialze either |
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| 14:27.43 | [Ammo] | you should setup the args etc on init |
| 14:27.46 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 14:28.40 | Industrial | why do i need an initialize |
| 14:28.49 | Industrial | whats de difference between that and enable/disable |
| 14:28.54 | Industrial | and, what args |
| 14:28.55 | Industrial | :d |
| 14:28.56 | Industrial | :D* |
| 14:29.00 | [Ammo] | for chatcommand |
| 14:29.04 | Industrial | nah |
| 14:29.13 | Industrial | there wont be any |
| 14:29.36 | [Ammo] | well for a very simple ace2 thing with some slashcommands, read WitchHunt.lua |
| 14:29.42 | [Ammo] | has 2 toggles |
| 14:31.40 | Wobin | ~29037/341 |
| 14:31.41 | purl | 85.152492668622 |
| 14:31.44 | Wobin | meh |
| 14:31.49 | Wobin | 85 more furbolg to level |
| 14:31.58 | Industrial | ... |
| 14:32.41 | Wobin | if I was rested, I'd probably do it |
| 14:34.22 | FryGuy | it's only like an hour :p |
| 14:34.22 | ag` | aI have created a frame in lua with a text string and a statusbar in it, and no matter what I do I can't make the text overlap the statusbar. Been looking at this for hours >.< |
| 14:35.53 | [Ammo] | make sure the font-string is in the OVERLAY layer I think |
| 14:36.14 | [Ammo] | CreateFontString(nil,"OVERLAY") |
| 14:36.15 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 14:36.20 | ag` | Yeah, I made it like that |
| 14:36.47 | [Ammo] | and the fontstring is a child of the statusbar? |
| 14:36.58 | [Ammo] | so: fstring = self.mystatusbar:CreateFontString() |
| 14:37.24 | [Ammo] | that should make it work |
| 14:37.25 | ag` | It's a child of the main frame |
| 14:37.32 | [Ammo] | make it a child of the statusbar |
| 14:37.47 | [Ammo] | I think that's where your problem lies |
| 14:38.04 | ag` | The wierd thing about that is, in MG2 I didn't have to do that, everything in the overlay/artwork layer overlapped the statusbars |
| 14:38.34 | [Ammo] | but those were created from .xml right? |
| 14:39.00 | ag` | No, I changed it over til lua for the party, raid, etc |
| 14:39.07 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 14:39.17 | [Ammo] | did you set the points for the fontstring? |
| 14:39.21 | [Ammo] | so it's in the correct spot etc |
| 14:39.25 | ag` | yep |
| 14:39.27 | [Ammo] | weird |
| 14:39.38 | [Ammo] | anyway, check how otravi is doing it I guess |
| 14:39.43 | [Ammo] | that's the only unitframes I can think of atm |
| 14:39.54 | [Ammo] | but still think font needs to be a child of the bar |
| 14:40.40 | ag` | pretty strange how it worked for me in MG2 without doing that |
| 14:41.43 | [Ammo] | must be a difference somewhere |
| 14:41.46 | ag` | It annoys me that you can't set a drawlayer for statusbars using lua functions like you can do it XML |
| 14:43.03 | ag` | I might just go create the template in XML and use the new inherit thing that came with 1.11 to create lua copies of it |
| 14:43.36 | [Ammo] | or fiddle some more and figure out what's causing it :) |
| 14:43.51 | ag` | I've just been looking at it for 4 hours+ :P |
| 14:43.58 | [Ammo] | try my suggestion! |
| 14:44.15 | ag` | I've tried making the text a child of the statusbars, and it works |
| 14:44.28 | ag` | however, I have lots of things that needs to be able to overlap the statusbars |
| 14:44.37 | ag` | like small icons, etc |
| 14:45.03 | ag` | but they don't have to, depends on the "theme" |
| 14:45.11 | [Ammo] | those are textures, they should overlap if set to OVERLAY as well |
| 14:45.26 | ag` | but they don't :P |
| 14:45.27 | [Ammo] | all I can say is check out oUF2 and borrow some of his :) |
| 14:45.31 | [Ammo] | it works for him |
| 14:45.46 | ag` | he makes the text strings child of his bars |
| 14:47.14 | [Ammo] | I suggest naming your addon agUF btw |
| 14:47.28 | [Ammo] | since the auf == ace unit frames and already taken |
| 14:47.32 | [Ammo] | just to avoid confusion :) |
| 14:48.08 | ag` | Good idea |
| 14:48.21 | Industrial | mine are called idUnitframes and nothing else :P |
| 14:48.37 | Industrial | ag`: How do they look? got screenie? |
| 14:48.50 | [Ammo] | they will probably look like MG2 in ABF mode I presume :) |
| 14:49.00 | [Ammo] | as that was the default look of MG2 |
| 14:49.00 | ag` | mine? they pretty simple, just started out experimenting with AceOO-2.0 |
| 14:49.37 | Industrial | k |
| 14:49.45 | ag` | Anyway, my approach is to read a table with a style in it |
| 14:50.14 | ag` | and then apply it to the frames |
| 14:51.17 | [Ammo] | you're approach is interesting ag' |
| 14:51.41 | ag` | currently agUF only uses one style |
| 14:51.47 | ag` | but it is complete in MG2 |
| 14:51.59 | ag` | I am just reusing that bit of code, I wrote it recently |
| 14:52.42 | ag` | check function aUF.aUFunit.prototype:ApplyTheme() |
| 14:52.56 | [Ammo] | checking |
| 14:53.13 | [Ammo] | i see :) |
| 14:53.26 | [Ammo] | I'm too lazy to make my own unitframes |
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| 14:53.42 | [Ammo] | although I liked MG2 64pre4 with the debuff glow etc in ABF style |
| 14:53.57 | [Ammo] | switched to oUF2 now due to the many annoyances in 64pre4 |
| 14:54.32 | ag` | yep, it was getting too unorganized and big for me to handle |
| 14:54.40 | ag` | that's why I am rewriting it using AceOO |
| 14:54.47 | ag` | hopefully I'll get much cleaner code this time |
| 14:54.59 | ag` | I fixed a lot of bugs in 64pre5 though |
| 14:55.05 | [Ammo] | oh is it out? |
| 14:55.19 | ag` | yeah, dunno if your annoyances are fixed |
| 14:55.19 | [Ammo] | not that I will change from oUF2 atm, but my guildmates love MG2 |
| 14:55.33 | [Ammo] | annoyance #1 => not showing party frame or remembering its position |
| 14:55.42 | [Ammo] | annoyance #2 => not showing 16 debuffs |
| 14:55.45 | [Ammo] | that's them |
| 14:55.50 | ag` | ok |
| 14:56.05 | ag` | well hopefully that's going to be fixed with agUF |
| 14:56.16 | [Ammo] | were those 2 fixed in pre5? :) |
| 14:56.48 | ag` | Not sure, the first one is related to frames being created in lua, which means I need to save and load all frame positions, which is hell because of scaling |
| 14:57.01 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 14:57.02 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 14:57.06 | ag` | I think I am going to look at what otravi does |
| 14:57.12 | [Ammo] | I didn't have that problem with Necronomicon |
| 14:57.33 | ag` | when you create a movable frame in lua, wow doesn't save it's position |
| 14:57.42 | [Ammo] | I do it manual in necro |
| 14:57.45 | [Ammo] | but it's fairly easy |
| 14:58.16 | ag` | I can't remember why, but I just found it to be hell because of scaling |
| 14:58.26 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.26 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.26 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.40 | [Ammo] | I save x and y of the frame |
| 14:58.43 | [Ammo] | and on load I do |
| 14:58.48 | [Ammo] | self.frames.main:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", UIParent, "TOPLEFT", x, y ) |
| 14:59.08 | [Ammo] | where x and y are getopt("mainx") and y etc |
| 14:59.16 | [Ammo] | no scaling issues |
| 14:59.25 | ag` | but the problem is that those x and y coordinates isn't independant of scale |
| 14:59.28 | Tain | But if someone changes their UI scale they have to reposition. |
| 14:59.34 | [Ammo] | oh hmmm |
| 14:59.51 | [Ammo] | but I only scale once :p |
| 14:59.52 | Tain | A lot of people simply leave it at that and let people move themselves if they change scale. |
| 14:59.55 | [Ammo] | upon install without any addons |
| 15:00.07 | Tain | Since most people I don't think change their scale much. |
| 15:00.09 | [Ammo] | there's a reset option to put the frames back in the default position |
| 15:00.20 | [Ammo] | so if you change your scale you have to repoisiotn |
| 15:00.25 | [Ammo] | argh that was a bad typo |
| 15:00.32 | ag` | hehe |
| 15:00.51 | [Ammo] | I think leaving it at that is just fine |
| 15:01.17 | ag` | anyway I am going to move some of the frame creation code to XML due to the new "inherit" thing in CreateFrame, so I can skip that annoying OVERLAY problem I was talking about |
| 15:01.34 | [Ammo] | or you could store a saved scale, and check the scale often enough |
| 15:01.40 | ag` | in |
| 15:01.40 | [Ammo] | and just multiply by that |
| 15:01.50 | ag` | yeah, that's what I try to do |
| 15:01.58 | ag` | can't remember how it worked out though |
| 15:02.06 | [Ammo] | just make sure you don't multiply when the scale hasn't changed :) |
| 15:02.24 | [Ammo] | too much hassle imoh |
| 15:02.43 | ag` | yep, I just remember that positioning thing pissed me off |
| 15:02.52 | ag` | blizzard should make wow save positions for created frames |
| 15:02.57 | [Ammo] | just give people a reset option |
| 15:03.02 | [Ammo] | and don't take scale in account |
| 15:03.11 | ag` | yeah |
| 15:03.13 | [Ammo] | and reset should move the frame somewhere in the topleft corner |
| 15:03.17 | [Ammo] | so they're always in view |
| 15:03.30 | [Ammo] | or just dead center ofcourse :) |
| 15:03.42 | ag` | yeah, was about to say that |
| 15:03.51 | [Ammo] | include the solution to the problem in a readme and tell people to read it |
| 15:04.08 | [Ammo] | or tell them to use a different product and not bother you with their sillyness :) |
| 15:05.06 | phyber | who was going on about donna and william the other day? |
| 15:05.07 | phyber | http://darklegacycomics.com/24.html |
| 15:05.08 | [Ammo] | I like the lua frame creation because my brain can get around that, xml frame stuff I can't handle :) |
| 15:05.09 | phyber | :) |
| 15:06.31 | Soltanis | you can problem , but you don't like mark up? |
| 15:06.44 | Soltanis | :-) |
| 15:07.05 | Soltanis | ] |
| 15:07.08 | Soltanis | program* |
| 15:07.15 | ag` | I am going to test out the new Inherit 1.11 CreateFrame thing now, seems like the best worlds of XML and LUA in the same |
| 15:07.24 | Industrial | Soltanis: the key is readability |
| 15:07.30 | Industrial | tbh, XML SUCKS |
| 15:07.35 | Industrial | its so inefficient |
| 15:07.36 | Industrial | :P |
| 15:07.39 | ag` | :P |
| 15:07.46 | Industrial | and unreadable, too |
| 15:08.04 | ag` | anyway it's nice to be able to create a frame from a virtual XML template now |
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| 15:08.15 | Soltanis | unreadable? :-( it's a set of box's :-( |
| 15:08.39 | Tain | XML isn't meant to be effecient, it's meant to be portable. And it is good at that. |
| 15:08.40 | Soltanis | i guess, if you are not used to it , it would become unreadable |
| 15:08.54 | Tain | I don't like using it with WoW, but it has a purpose it fits nicely. |
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| 15:19.00 | Industrial | http://www.pault.com/xmlalternatives.html |
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| 15:24.20 | XLVII | stupid question |
| 15:24.29 | XLVII | what are all ace plugins actually coded in? |
| 15:24.56 | MoonWolf | lua |
| 15:25.19 | MoonWolf | every wow addon ever is written in lua |
| 15:29.30 | Jens | The events that Warmup lists are the ones that are fired at startup, right? |
| 15:30.24 | Jens | The duplicate message bug I thought I fixed is back with a vengeance. |
| 15:31.02 | Tuplad | Ace = Lua, Ace Addons = Lua |
| 15:31.03 | Tuplad | :P |
| 15:31.51 | Tem | what the fuck |
| 15:32.02 | Tem | I'm gonna kill KarlKFI |
| 15:32.11 | [Ammo] | can we know the reason? |
| 15:32.24 | [Ammo] | so we can cheer you with appropriate enthousiasm |
| 15:32.39 | Tem | He took my addon name |
| 15:32.49 | Tuplad | Lal ! |
| 15:32.49 | Tem | for something that doesn't even make sense |
| 15:32.52 | Tuplad | which one ? |
| 15:33.05 | Tem | Satellite |
| 15:33.17 | Tem | it's supposed to be a communication library |
| 15:33.26 | MoonWolf | that makes sense. |
| 15:33.32 | Tem | no no |
| 15:33.42 | Tem | he used the name for slash commands |
| 15:33.43 | Tain | haha well he's bitched a bunch of times about someone "stealing" his addon names for Ace addons, and then flipped out over BabbleLib. |
| 15:33.58 | MoonWolf | that doesnt make sense. |
| 15:34.06 | Tem | hence my pissedoffness |
| 15:34.07 | Tain | I'm willing to be, although it may be false, that he did it purposely to spite. |
| 15:34.28 | Tem | I fucking hate that guy |
| 15:34.47 | Tuplad | which of these http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/otravi_UnitFrames/otravi/oUF/textures/ is haste using on this screen: http://fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/addons/ouf2/oUF2-r2692.png |
| 15:35.02 | [Ammo] | Tuplad: how about you install and find out |
| 15:35.24 | Tuplad | :( |
| 15:35.25 | Tuplad | will do |
| 15:35.41 | [Ammo] | or think about this... haste created the addon |
| 15:35.42 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4120 10BigWigs/: BigWigs - Branching for conversion to Ace2 |
| 15:35.44 | [Ammo] | it's his screenshot |
| 15:36.00 | [Ammo] | now what would _his_ defaults do? |
| 15:36.39 | [Ammo] | now look in the textures folder.... |
| 15:36.49 | Tuplad | :0 |
| 15:36.58 | Tuplad | good idea! |
| 15:37.14 | hyperChipmunk | asking Tuplad to think for himself is like asking a concrete brick to stand up and do a jig |
| 15:37.27 | [Ammo] | I'm feeling lenient atm |
| 15:37.28 | Tuplad | ^__^ |
| 15:37.30 | [Ammo] | I've had a beer |
| 15:37.38 | [Ammo] | if he had asked an hour ago |
| 15:37.44 | [Ammo] | I'd told him to grow a brain and return |
| 15:37.50 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 15:39.39 | Kebinusan | hm |
| 15:39.51 | ag` | [Ammo], wohooo! I made it work by creating a virtual template in XML and then using CreateFrame to load it |
| 15:39.57 | [Ammo] | sweet ag |
| 15:40.19 | Kebinusan | I need an addon to check my mood and determine if I am in a button mashing mood or not and alter my TOEP/Shadowbolt macro appropriately |
| 15:40.32 | [Ammo] | Kebinusan want mine? |
| 15:40.36 | [Ammo] | it's called: TrinketBolt! |
| 15:40.48 | Kebinusan | sounds functional |
| 15:40.55 | [Ammo] | one moment :) |
| 15:41.27 | [Ammo] | this is it: /script local s,d,e = GetInventoryItemCooldown("player", 13); if s<=0 then UseInventoryItem(13); end; CastSpellByName("Shadow Bolt"); |
| 15:41.57 | [Ammo] | 13 = top trinket 14 = bottom trinket |
| 15:42.01 | [Ammo] | change appropriatly :) |
| 15:42.05 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 15:42.07 | Kebinusan | yep |
| 15:42.07 | hyperChipmunk | nice |
| 15:42.09 | XLVII | where can i learn lua? |
| 15:42.10 | XLVII | ;F |
| 15:42.17 | [Ammo] | check the topic |
| 15:42.21 | [Ammo] | it has <-- READ IT |
| 15:42.21 | Shyva | by reading other mods :) |
| 15:42.24 | [Ammo] | pointing at something |
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| 15:42.38 | [Ammo] | start there and then do what shyva says |
| 15:42.49 | [Ammo] | and you can check the topic by typing /topic |
| 15:42.57 | [Ammo] | instead of rejoining the channel like a nubber :) |
| 15:43.04 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 15:43.10 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 15:43.10 | XLVII | i know, i'm too lazy to type 6 characters though. |
| 15:43.16 | Shyva | I started with reading mods :o and reading wowwiki api list thingie.. all I did :) |
| 15:43.18 | XLVII | 4 is fine for me. |
| 15:43.48 | hyperChipmunk | if you have a nice client, it might even tab-complete after two or three |
| 15:44.10 | [Ammo] | or... use irssi and just ahve it in a bar at the top of the window :) |
| 15:44.28 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: nifty macro eh? :) |
| 15:44.51 | Kebinusan | yeah, that works, mine was similar, but a bit more annoying if my trinket wasnt cooled down |
| 15:45.04 | [Ammo] | yeah I got annoyed by my gnome telling me I couldn't use that yet |
| 15:45.38 | [Ammo] | if you want support for 2 trinkets you should be able to change it easily |
| 15:45.39 | Jens | This bug is driving me mad :( |
| 15:45.52 | Kebinusan | yeah one trinket is fine, my other trinket slot never changes |
| 15:46.14 | [Ammo] | I actually have 2 shadowbolt buttons bound |
| 15:46.15 | Jens | Aparently ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA may or may not trigger at the time my mod is loaded. |
| 15:46.23 | [Ammo] | 1 that doesn't trinket and 1 that does |
| 15:46.31 | [Ammo] | incase I want to save my trinket for something special |
| 15:46.33 | [Ammo] | like Huhuran 30% |
| 15:46.49 | Kebinusan | yeah, I was looking at setting up something like that |
| 15:46.59 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but you can't do the 'detect mood' thing with two trinket support |
| 15:47.04 | [Ammo] | I have 2 for shadowbolt |
| 15:47.13 | [Ammo] | or rather 2 for trinketbolt |
| 15:47.17 | hyperChipmunk | with one specific trinket, you just swap it to the other slot when you don't want it used |
| 15:47.19 | [Ammo] | and shift-2 for shadowbolt without trinkets |
| 15:47.34 | MoonWolf | [Ammo], why not reversed |
| 15:47.41 | [Ammo] | because I always use my trinket? |
| 15:47.46 | [Ammo] | unless I don't want to |
| 15:47.49 | MoonWolf | but what is the cooldown on it ? |
| 15:47.52 | [Ammo] | 2 mins |
| 15:47.58 | MoonWolf | hmm |
| 15:48.03 | [Ammo] | andn my macro checks the cooldown and just fires shadowbolts |
| 15:48.07 | MoonWolf | aha |
| 15:48.12 | [Ammo] | see 17:41 :p |
| 15:48.19 | hyperChipmunk | specifying slot lets you do trinket in top slot = button mash mode on, trinket in bottom slot = button mash mode off |
| 15:48.34 | [Ammo] | but that requires switching trinkets |
| 15:48.38 | MoonWolf | i made some code to add a castingbar to my aimedshot again |
| 15:48.39 | MoonWolf | best thing |
| 15:48.43 | MoonWolf | this bar cancells |
| 15:48.49 | Kebinusan | I was trying to streamline my curses, Ive been thinking of trying to button swap curses depending on the target... so have one button that if targeting a caster will be curse of tounges, if melee, agony, if annoying hunter pet, weakness, if shift modified exhaustion |
| 15:48.50 | MoonWolf | unlike the one added my huntertimers. |
| 15:48.54 | Kebinusan | or something similar |
| 15:49.00 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 15:49.08 | [Ammo] | I don't use CoT on casters |
| 15:49.12 | [Ammo] | I'd rather CoA them |
| 15:49.23 | [Ammo] | and spelllock with the feldog |
| 15:49.46 | [Ammo] | I also have an ampcoa macro |
| 15:49.48 | [Ammo] | if you want it :p |
| 15:49.51 | Kebinusan | have one of those |
| 15:49.54 | [Ammo] | k |
| 15:50.02 | [Ammo] | checks cooldown for amplify and applies before the coa |
| 15:50.06 | hyperChipmunk | Tekcub: have you added AD quest loots to PT? |
| 15:50.12 | Kebinusan | ./script local e, f, g = GetSpellCooldown(16, SpellBookFrame.bookType); if (f <= 0) then CastSpellByName("Amplify Curse"); SpellStopCasting();end; CastSpellByName("Curse of Agony"); |
| 15:50.17 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:50.20 | [Ammo] | exactly that :) |
| 15:50.28 | [Ammo] | my Amp curse is on 16 too :) |
| 15:50.31 | Tekcub | no hC, but I have the list... you mean all the 30-pack items right? |
| 15:51.01 | hyperChipmunk | ya |
| 15:51.05 | Tekcub | I have all the tokens too... AD Valor, Zandalar honor, AD and SC seals |
| 15:51.21 | hyperChipmunk | I only care about mailable stuff =0 |
| 15:51.23 | Tekcub | gimme a sex I'll slip em in |
| 15:51.33 | Tekcub | I care about being complete |
| 15:51.41 | hyperChipmunk | well, I don't care what you care about |
| 15:51.49 | Kebinusan | got any for more intelligent felpuppy bindings, like devour magic self if debuffed otherwise target? |
| 15:52.45 | Thrae|Away | Hmmmm. |
| 15:53.20 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: not really |
| 15:53.27 | [Ammo] | they usually don't fit into 256 chars |
| 15:53.36 | [Ammo] | I intended to make a small util thing in Necronomicon |
| 15:53.41 | [Ammo] | with functions you could call from macros |
| 15:53.55 | Kebinusan | yeah, pretty much, I hate servitude its kinda too intelligent for my liking |
| 15:53.58 | [Ammo] | like: Necronomicon:Devour() for the felpup |
| 15:54.06 | Kebinusan | and bloated |
| 15:54.06 | Thrae | It appears that strings in Lua are treated a little bit differently then I expected. Any new string will put the old object on GC instead of re-using the array. |
| 15:54.37 | [Ammo] | I don't use servitude because I like to have a choice in what I do |
| 15:54.46 | [Ammo] | instead of automatically having stuff done for me |
| 15:55.18 | ag` | !chtun |
| 15:55.21 | [Ammo] | argh |
| 15:55.23 | Kebinusan | ~c'thun |
| 15:55.24 | purl | *** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - 5~ sec! *** |
| 15:55.34 | ag` | !:D |
| 15:56.11 | [Ammo] | I think I have to make some screenshots |
| 15:56.18 | Kebinusan | yeah I use keybindings for primary/secondary pet actions in servitude thats really about it, its a nice easy way to accomplish that debuff self or target depending if Im debuffed or not... problem is thats an awful lot of memory for a simple application |
| 15:56.22 | Kebinusan | heheh of what? |
| 15:56.25 | [Ammo] | [b][/b] is obviously not working |
| 15:56.30 | [Ammo] | read the raid addons bigwigs core thread |
| 15:56.40 | [Ammo] | brb making a couple |
| 15:57.20 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub * r4121 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: |
| 15:57.20 | CIA-7 | PeriodicTable |
| 15:57.20 | CIA-7 | - Added sets to Misc: reputationjunk and reputationtokens |
| 15:57.34 | Tekcub | hC: junk is not necessarily mailable, but I'm sure you can test for that :) |
| 15:57.51 | Tekcub | junk == collection quest items |
| 15:58.20 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I havent' figured out a way to do that yet |
| 15:58.25 | hyperChipmunk | I leave it to the user |
| 15:58.28 | hyperChipmunk | not to be a moron |
| 15:58.35 | Tekcub | really? well you can make a custom set then... |
| 15:58.54 | hyperChipmunk | nah, I'm gonna need to do it for real sometime anyway |
| 15:58.56 | Tekcub | 22525-22529 are the itemid's of the new collectables that are not bound |
| 15:59.29 | Soltanis | hmm would switching from necrosis LDC to Necronomicon cause problems with thier specific keybindings? |
| 15:59.40 | hyperChipmunk | because it's not just those; I want to implement pt across the board |
| 16:00.00 | [Ammo] | Necronomicon's keybindings are bugged atm |
| 16:00.03 | Tekcub | :) |
| 16:00.03 | [Ammo] | because they don't check your class |
| 16:00.11 | hyperChipmunk | and I'm not going to manually split off the soulbound stuff |
| 16:00.25 | [Ammo] | but other than that necrosis LDC has a lot more features |
| 16:00.33 | [Ammo] | Necronomicon just has the stuff I use |
| 16:00.40 | [Ammo] | nothing more |
| 16:00.42 | Soltanis | yeah but they should still work if im on my Lock right? |
| 16:00.44 | [Ammo] | and it will never have more |
| 16:00.45 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 16:00.48 | hyperChipmunk | I can't find any API for bound items, though =\ |
| 16:00.54 | Soltanis | hmm wonder what my problem is then |
| 16:00.57 | [Ammo] | necronomicon has it's own keybindings things |
| 16:01.04 | [Ammo] | so you will have to set it up |
| 16:01.31 | Soltanis | maybe ill delete both save variables and try again |
| 16:04.27 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4122 10ag_UnitFrames/ (4 files): ag_UnitFrames - Changed the way frames are created (XML template, CreateFrame 1.11 inherit!) |
| 16:04.55 | ag` | sweet |
| 16:06.21 | Soltanis | nope still not working :-( |
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| 16:16.33 | *** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-69-244-73-129.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
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| 16:18.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 16:29.22 | XLVII | boo? |
| 16:31.24 | Jens | Any idea why GetAddOnMetadata("/dev/null", "Version") returns nil? |
| 16:31.55 | XLVII | don't ask me, lol. |
| 16:32.21 | Kebinusan | anyone tried using clique with dhud? |
| 16:35.20 | [Ammo] | k |
| 16:35.21 | [Ammo] | timerbars... |
| 16:35.28 | [Ammo] | how about ePeen! shrinks as time goes by |
| 16:35.38 | [Ammo] | ePeen! large at first sight only! |
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| 16:37.27 | Kebinusan | nah thats more of a damagemeter name |
| 16:37.33 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 16:37.37 | [Ammo] | well I need a good name |
| 16:37.44 | [Ammo] | got the API written down now |
| 16:37.46 | [Ammo] | just need a name |
| 16:37.52 | [Ammo] | I hate search and replacing |
| 16:37.56 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 16:38.20 | Kebinusan | Silly over functional name? |
| 16:38.27 | [Ammo] | ofcourse |
| 16:38.37 | [Ammo] | MetroGnome >> Onupdatehandlingthing |
| 16:38.40 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 16:39.19 | Kebinusan | <-- not creative |
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| 16:41.09 | Kebinusan | oh man clique would be soo amazingly cool if you could use the keybindings anywhere on UIParent or somethin |
| 16:41.11 | Amadeo | [Ammo]: Did you fix WitchHunt by chance? :) |
| 16:44.11 | [Ammo] | fix what? |
| 16:44.11 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4123 10BigWigs/Options.lua: |
| 16:44.12 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 16:44.12 | CIA-7 | * added a hint for nubbers to the BigWigs menu tooltip thanks Kyahx :) |
| 16:44.22 | [Ammo] | it's Lexan that's br0ken not witchhunt |
| 16:45.22 | [Ammo] | at least that's my suspicion |
| 16:46.47 | Amadeo | hm |
| 16:46.52 | Amadeo | let me get the error, I had removed it last night |
| 16:47.01 | [Ammo] | something with the DB? |
| 16:47.09 | Mikma | yello |
| 16:47.46 | Mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/kamut/2377/20060706.gif |
| 16:49.09 | Amadeo | [Ammo]: I can't remember, give me one min :) |
| 16:49.30 | [Ammo] | k I'll go next door and grab my thai food |
| 16:49.33 | [Ammo] | brb |
| 16:54.41 | Amadeo | there it is |
| 16:54.44 | Amadeo | yeah DB |
| 16:55.04 | Amadeo | WitchHunt.lua:56: attempt to call method `RegisterDB' (a nil value) |
| 16:57.55 | Mikma | how's it hanging? :) |
| 16:58.12 | Tem | down and to the left |
| 16:58.48 | [Ammo] | Amadeo: running lexan as well? |
| 16:58.58 | Amadeo | [Ammo]: ayup |
| 16:59.12 | [Ammo] | there's nothing better than walking into a loaded takeaway shop, and getting your food in 10 seconds flat because you pre-ordered by phone |
| 16:59.20 | [Ammo] | Amadeo: lexan plays naughty |
| 16:59.21 | Amadeo | haha, I love that |
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| 16:59.31 | Tem | ~dr tran |
| 16:59.36 | Tuplad | hm |
| 16:59.40 | Tem | ~dr. tran |
| 16:59.42 | purl | You making my teeth hurt so bad! |
| 16:59.43 | Tuplad | what was the name of the Ace'd tooltip wrangler ? |
| 16:59.53 | [Ammo] | tipster |
| 17:00.09 | Amadeo | I'm using this addon called AdWS...and it has a bug whenever you mouseover a wand...the author isn't fixing it :( |
| 17:00.27 | Tuplad | thx ammo |
| 17:00.33 | [Wobin] | Amadeo: Ace the addon =) |
| 17:01.03 | Amadeo | [Wobin]: Sure, what's your email? |
| 17:01.10 | Amadeo | ;) |
| 17:01.16 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:01.40 | [Ammo] | doubt tuplad could ever find tipster btw |
| 17:01.47 | [Ammo] | so he'll be back shortly to ask where to download it |
| 17:02.04 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:02.10 | Amadeo | it's all about TinyTip now anyway |
| 17:02.53 | *** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:03.08 | Tuplad | crap irc keeps closing this chan ;\ |
| 17:03.26 | Tuplad | A viewport addon wont increase your fps right ? |
| 17:03.43 | Mikma | of course it does, so use 200x200 playarea |
| 17:03.50 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4124 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: |
| 17:03.50 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (gluth): |
| 17:03.50 | CIA-7 | * fixed error with decimate warnings |
| 17:03.52 | Jens | Bahahaha.... I broke WoWInterface. It doesn't escape /, so my addon breaks the file listing. |
| 17:03.55 | Jens | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/cat72.html |
| 17:04.15 | Tuplad | it does mikma? :O |
| 17:04.24 | Tem | bwahahahaha |
| 17:04.24 | Mikma | Tuplad: would i lie to you? |
| 17:04.35 | Tuplad | dunno : |
| 17:04.35 | Tuplad | :P |
| 17:04.46 | Tem | Cairenn, you see that? |
| 17:05.17 | Mikma | Jens: /dev/null? |
| 17:05.21 | Jens | Yes. |
| 17:05.33 | Cairenn | how do you figure it breaks the site? |
| 17:05.37 | Mikma | showing files 1 to 7 of 7 |
| 17:05.42 | Jens | CLick it. |
| 17:05.42 | Cairenn | ah |
| 17:05.54 | Jens | I changed it to devnull now :/ |
| 17:06.38 | Mikma | oh you changed the name |
| 17:07.06 | Jens | Yea... getting 404 errors on WoWI won't really attract users to my addon. |
| 17:07.16 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 17:07.18 | Mikma | i mean the addon... |
| 17:07.21 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4125 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: |
| 17:07.21 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Gluth): |
| 17:07.21 | CIA-7 | * now has an icon for the decimate bar |
| 17:07.49 | Mikma | hmmh, who was the one which made the addon to hide keyring? |
| 17:08.02 | [Ammo] | no idea, but it's small, really small :p |
| 17:08.05 | [Ammo] | and owrks |
| 17:08.22 | Jens | I had actually expected more problems with using /dev/null as the name, but so far it has been minimal. |
| 17:08.22 | Tain | Mikma: Use OneBag, it does it for you. ;) |
| 17:08.23 | Mikma | [Ammo]: you mean the keyring-addon? |
| 17:08.26 | Jens | Hide keyring? Why would you do that? |
| 17:08.29 | [Ammo] | LostKeys |
| 17:08.34 | [Ammo] | to hide the keyring button |
| 17:08.36 | [Ammo] | that's all it hides |
| 17:08.37 | Mikma | ok let's have a look |
| 17:08.41 | Cairenn | Los ... yeah, what ammo said |
| 17:08.41 | Mikma | no don't use it it bugs |
| 17:08.43 | Jens | But why hide it? |
| 17:08.50 | [Ammo] | it works for me :) |
| 17:08.53 | Mikma | phyber.. |
| 17:08.56 | [Ammo] | because I don't need it? |
| 17:09.03 | Mikma | [Ammo]: ok, do this. |
| 17:09.05 | [Ammo] | bagnon has the keys in it as well |
| 17:09.16 | Mikma | use keyind to open KeyRing |
| 17:09.26 | [Ammo] | I don't use that :) |
| 17:09.26 | Mikma | s/keyind/keybind/ |
| 17:09.39 | [Ammo] | keyring is inside bagnon hence I never noticed any problems |
| 17:09.43 | [Ammo] | or in onebag for that matter |
| 17:09.45 | Mikma | then mouseover the missing-keyring slot :P |
| 17:09.50 | Mikma | the border is still there |
| 17:10.14 | Mikma | so the maintexture is hidden but the border do exist in the default place |
| 17:10.18 | Tain | Actually i don't even know where the default UI keyring button is. I've never seen it. |
| 17:10.27 | Mikma | Tain: next to lagmeter |
| 17:10.38 | [Ammo] | what lagmeter? |
| 17:10.44 | [Wobin] | latency meter |
| 17:10.44 | Gngsk | latency meter? |
| 17:10.44 | Tain | Actually i don't even know where the default UI lagmeter is. It's been months since I've seen it. |
| 17:10.50 | [Ammo] | what latency meter :) |
| 17:10.51 | phyber | hmm? |
| 17:11.05 | [Wobin] | Now you're just being silly |
| 17:11.15 | [Ammo] | It's been motnhs since I've seen it as well |
| 17:11.19 | Gngsk | between the little menu thing and the bags |
| 17:11.22 | phyber | Mikma: what about LostKeys? I know it doesn't work with Bartender. |
| 17:11.26 | [Ammo] | same for the little menu |
| 17:11.26 | phyber | should I look into it? |
| 17:11.30 | MoonWolf | its been ages since i have seen my default layout. |
| 17:11.42 | Tain | I couldn't tell you what the default UI looks like, I havent' used it in at least six months, possibly a year. |
| 17:11.48 | Mikma | phyber: well use another feature to hide the keyring since the method i told you bugs |
| 17:11.49 | Gngsk | I haven't seen it either, but I know it's there! |
| 17:12.10 | Mikma | phyber: just like i told to [ammo], open up the keyring with keybind |
| 17:12.21 | Mikma | then mouseover the slot where the keyring would normal be |
| 17:12.29 | Mikma | you can see a border and tooltip "Keyring" |
| 17:12.33 | [Ammo] | but the slot isn't there :) |
| 17:12.40 | Tekcub | you know what I want.... an MP3 player that mork similar to Pandora's ratings |
| 17:12.50 | Tekcub | if you rate up a song it'll play more often... doewn, less often |
| 17:12.51 | [Ammo] | tekcub: there are plugins for winamp |
| 17:13.07 | [Ammo] | just feed winamp your entire songlist |
| 17:13.09 | phyber | Mikma: I added a :Hide(), which prevented that |
| 17:13.14 | phyber | for me at least. |
| 17:13.20 | Tekcub | I don't want the "similar to" functions, just increased/decresed play frequency |
| 17:13.21 | Mikma | phyber: didn't work for me but... |
| 17:13.41 | Mikma | phyber: http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/Bartender/BarFuncs.lua .. look there for function MainMenuBar_UpdateKeyRing() |
| 17:13.47 | Amadeo | Where's Neronix! |
| 17:14.04 | Mikma | using that you the game won't try to show the keyring anymore |
| 17:14.25 | Tain | I have seen plugins like that Tekkub, let you rate songs in your playlist to weight how often they play on random. |
| 17:14.25 | Mikma | (there should be a KeyRing:Show() line under the last line but i removed it ;) |
| 17:14.36 | Tain | I can't tell you where though. |
| 17:14.48 | [Ammo] | can't tell you either, but a friend used to have such a thing |
| 17:14.53 | [Ammo] | with mood settings as well |
| 17:15.08 | [Ammo] | set your mood, give ratings :) |
| 17:15.22 | Tain | I generally have two types of playlists. Entire albums from beginning to end in order, or pure random of thousands of songs. |
| 17:15.25 | Elkano | tekkub, any news on deDE CorkFu? |
| 17:15.40 | Tain | Speaking of music, I saw Sammy Hagar last night. |
| 17:16.02 | Cairenn | so, Jens, are you uploading an update with the new name? |
| 17:16.07 | Tain | Highly entertaining show. |
| 17:16.13 | Jens | I already did. |
| 17:16.21 | Jens | Hours ago. |
| 17:16.56 | Cairenn | hours ago? |
| 17:17.01 | [Ammo] | I got me some missing ZZtop vinyls last night |
| 17:17.10 | Cairenn | you mean the one uploaded at 12:58? that I've already approved? |
| 17:17.38 | Tain | I'm confused too, I thought you just said the addon name was breaking the site. |
| 17:17.50 | Jens | I uploaded 1.2 earlier today with the /dev/null name (formerly STFU). |
| 17:18.04 | Jens | A few minutes ago I uploaded 1.2.1 that unfixed a fix :) |
| 17:18.25 | Tekcub | I think OMGSTFU! would have been sufficient :) |
| 17:18.25 | Cairenn | okay, just was confused, don't worry about it |
| 17:18.29 | Jens | But I changed the name on WoWI to just "devnull" so as not to break anything. |
| 17:19.00 | Jens | I know... /dev/null is asking for trouble. But it's a fitting name, since that's essentially what it does. |
| 17:19.24 | Cairenn | stfu was fitting as well, although a tad rude ;) |
| 17:19.29 | Jens | Aye. |
| 17:19.40 | Jens | Fix WoWI, plzkthx :) |
| 17:19.43 | Tain | Especially when some twelve year old has to explain to their mom what it means. ;) |
| 17:19.48 | Jens | So I can name it /dev/null again. |
| 17:20.13 | Jens | Notice the screenshot I submitted as well :D |
| 17:20.18 | Cairenn | Jens: post in the site bufs forum :p |
| 17:20.21 | Tain | Actually I'd suggest making slashes invalid characters for addon names. |
| 17:20.24 | Tekcub | okey, time to get BW Deuce'd |
| 17:20.30 | Jens | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/small3207.jpg |
| 17:21.23 | Tekcub | elton john.. Bette Midler.... Celien Dion... yup, this is a homo's MP3 collection... |
| 17:21.46 | Tekcub | and he thought I'd like this shit... he should know better |
| 17:21.47 | Mikma | ag`: remove the wowace svn-thread from jaslaughter if you can |
| 17:21.58 | ag` | sure |
| 17:22.33 | ag` | I think I'll just respond to it |
| 17:22.43 | [Wobin] | What... no... whatsername? Stresiand? |
| 17:23.14 | [Ammo] | alan parsons? |
| 17:24.02 | [Wobin] | Barbera Streisand |
| 17:24.05 | [Wobin] | But close |
| 17:24.33 | Mikma | ag`: well the point was wowace admins don't like people to link to svn much, dunno their opinnion in this one |
| 17:25.58 | ag` | Mikma, afaik the thread doesn't link to the SVN but only the Wiki about what SVN is |
| 17:26.41 | [Wobin] | what's wrong with linking to the SVN? Don't we have the web interface back? |
| 17:27.13 | Tain | It makes people lazy! Linking to svn instead of doing releases. |
| 17:27.22 | Mikma | [Wobin]: clad didn't like addons to be linked to wowi either |
| 17:27.37 | [Wobin] | =\ |
| 17:27.50 | [Wobin] | s/=\/o.O/ |
| 17:28.05 | [Wobin] | ...why not? |
| 17:28.23 | Mikma | didn't wan't to stress wowace.com i think |
| 17:30.34 | [Wobin] | er, but linked -to- Wowi? |
| 17:30.43 | [Wobin] | wouldn't that unstress wowace? |
| 17:31.07 | Mikma | didn't like the links in wowi pointing into wowace.com |
| 17:32.16 | [Wobin] | ah |
| 17:32.31 | [Wobin] | well. since wowace and wowi are pretty much one and the same now... =) |
| 17:33.52 | Tem | 47? |
| 17:34.21 | Mikma | [Wobin]: yeah :) |
| 17:34.29 | [Wobin] | 47 =P |
| 17:34.43 | Mikma | what's 47 |
| 17:34.49 | Tem|Food | XLVII |
| 17:34.56 | Mikma | mmkay |
| 17:35.01 | Mikma | i waas about to say "more than 42" |
| 17:35.01 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 17:35.20 | Mikma | ag`: ain't CreateFrame fun? |
| 17:41.09 | ag` | Mikma, yep |
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| 17:41.31 | mjc | moo |
| 17:44.10 | Mikma | don't have a cow man |
| 17:44.11 | Jens | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA > Note: When this event fires, the UI may still think you're in the zone you just left. Don't depend on GetRealZoneText() and similar functions to report the new zone in reaction to ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA. |
| 17:44.23 | Jens | Then how the heck I'm I supposed to get that info? |
| 17:45.01 | Tekcub | don't need RegisterForLoad in Ace2 do I?.... *grin* |
| 17:45.08 | XCIX | Tekcub: No |
| 17:45.14 | Tekcub | wewt! |
| 17:45.27 | Tekcub | I always forgot to put it in anyway |
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| 17:46.54 | Mikma | Wobin: hi wobbly |
| 17:46.59 | CIA-7 | 03wobin * r4126 10PaintBall/PaintBall.lua: PaintBall - Now ignores critters |
| 17:48.31 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 17:48.40 | hyperChipmunk | DESTROY ALL RATS |
| 17:48.46 | hyperChipmunk | FOCUS FIRE! |
| 17:48.46 | Mikma | i'll paste the same question here :D |
| 17:48.48 | Mikma | anyone remembers a name for addon which doesn't allow you to stealth/prowl if you have DoT/Poison on you? |
| 17:49.01 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4127 10CandyBar/ (. CandyBar-2.0/ CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua): |
| 17:49.01 | CIA-7 | CandyBar: |
| 17:49.01 | CIA-7 | * Initial commit. |
| 17:49.01 | CIA-7 | * Intended to be a timer bar embed lib. |
| 17:49.01 | CIA-7 | * Does nothing, just here so I can document the API and implement it. |
| 17:49.10 | Mikma | there has been one atleast |
| 17:49.19 | Industrial | http://pastebin.ca/80656 |
| 17:49.19 | Industrial | see line 29 |
| 17:49.19 | Industrial | and 314 |
| 17:49.27 | Industrial | at 314, Unit is 'Druid' |
| 17:49.31 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: I already played EQ |
| 17:49.33 | Industrial | and it exists |
| 17:49.42 | Industrial | however at line 315: |
| 17:49.53 | Industrial | dUnitframes.lua:315: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value) |
| 17:49.53 | hyperChipmunk | 70 minute ooze fights ftw? |
| 17:49.56 | Industrial | :S |
| 17:49.58 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:50.04 | Amadeo | EQ was fun back in the day |
| 17:51.31 | Industrial | anyone? |
| 17:52.28 | Tain | I had a lot of fun in EQ. From March 1999 through the launch of Kunark. It lost the fun after that for me. |
| 17:52.47 | Tain | I still played for an absurdly long time after of course. |
| 17:52.56 | MoonWolf | how many expansions (not counting the adventure packs ) are there for eq1? |
| 17:53.44 | hyperChipmunk | seventy hundred billion, at last count |
| 17:54.12 | Tain | I think 11 |
| 17:54.24 | Tain | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest |
| 17:54.40 | Tain | The first few were a year apart, then they started pumping them out. |
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| 17:57.17 | Tem | welcom back 47 |
| 17:58.38 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4128 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: |
| 17:58.38 | CIA-7 | CandyBars: |
| 17:58.38 | CIA-7 | * Empty functions. |
| 17:58.43 | Tem | s/m back /me back, / |
| 18:00.45 | Mikma | oh a timerbar! |
| 18:01.16 | [Ammo] | it's still very void in there |
| 18:01.17 | Mikma | i hope it has some porn textures... like otravi_CastingBar or so... |
| 18:01.30 | [Ammo] | it'll have a SetTexture function :p |
| 18:01.37 | [Ammo] | just add your own pr0n :p |
| 18:01.38 | Mikma | candybar + metrognome = acetimer2 ! |
| 18:01.50 | steino | oO |
| 18:01.54 | steino | orly?! |
| 18:02.03 | [Ammo] | don't expect much |
| 18:02.11 | [Ammo] | but Tekkub is pressing for end of the weekend :) |
| 18:02.20 | Mikma | well if it's a "replacement" for timexbar... or is it? |
| 18:02.23 | [Ammo] | it is |
| 18:02.27 | Mikma | ! |
| 18:02.30 | [Ammo] | Metrognome + Candybar == bye bye timex |
| 18:02.41 | Mikma | aye |
| 18:03.01 | Mikma | that also means easy acetimer2 with those 2 |
| 18:04.42 | steino | hmm |
| 18:04.49 | steino | autoshot timer.. yees |
| 18:04.52 | steino | i can feel it |
| 18:05.06 | Kebinusan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igC4bPDp6cU |
| 18:05.31 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Karen@CPE00045a2bfcbc-CM000f212f84be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 18:05.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 18:06.45 | Tekcub | hC... guess what I might have found... |
| 18:06.52 | Wobin | Industrial: line 215: Powerbar:SetStatusBarColor(self.Constants.Powerbar.Color.r, self.Constants.Powerbar.Color.g, self.Constants.Powerbar.Color.b) |
| 18:06.59 | Wobin | How are you referencing that? |
| 18:07.03 | hyperChipmunk | seven giraffes doing the polka? |
| 18:07.17 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk: That's one giraffe without a partner =( |
| 18:07.20 | Mikma | lol |
| 18:07.22 | Tekcub | ORbital's mix of Who |
| 18:07.35 | hyperChipmunk | darn, I was close |
| 18:07.52 | Tekcub | it's very ambiant and ominous |
| 18:11.06 | Wobin | Linky? |
| 18:11.15 | Wobin | And Hard Gay is scary |
| 18:11.23 | Wobin | in an oddly amusing way |
| 18:12.08 | Mikma | wtf |
| 18:12.19 | Mikma | i just got my first ever wow ingame spam-mail |
| 18:12.54 | Wobin | rofl |
| 18:12.59 | Wobin | In the park with the kids |
| 18:13.04 | Wobin | only in Japan could you pull that off =) |
| 18:13.17 | Wobin | Anywhere else you'd have the fundies screaming pink murder |
| 18:13.48 | Tekcub | I can't find where I got the torrent from now >< |
| 18:14.08 | Wobin | Just send the file then =) |
| 18:15.31 | Tekcub | emails? |
| 18:15.39 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/spam.jpg |
| 18:15.58 | Wobin | yeah I've gotten those |
| 18:16.23 | Wobin | wow |
| 18:16.27 | Wobin | They sent you JERKY |
| 18:16.44 | XLVII | i've never gotten one of them |
| 18:16.49 | XLVII | tem, thanks for the welcome too. |
| 18:17.01 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4129 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: |
| 18:17.01 | CIA-7 | CandyBar: |
| 18:17.01 | CIA-7 | * started implementing functions heavily based upon Metrognome, will fill in the rest later, now time for party & beer. |
| 18:17.13 | Wobin | [Ammo]: hehe |
| 18:17.14 | [Ammo] | later guys, take care :) |
| 18:19.11 | Amadeo | [Ammo]: is there a way to move the message location in WitchHunt? |
| 18:20.12 | Tem | [Ammo], is there a way I can tell WitchHunt to ignore the techies in BWL? |
| 18:20.22 | Tem | I don't want to use the "target only" option |
| 18:21.35 | Amadeo | [Ammo]: We need ways, man! Ways! |
| 18:21.48 | XLVII | http://carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.private_vehicle?vehicle_id=3039863¤t_rec=16&used_rec=63&total_rec=48&sort_type=&total_rec=48&sort_type=&make_id=15&model_id=273&state_id=-1&search_distance=25 Honda Integra advertised as a Volkswagen Polo. |
| 18:22.09 | Tem | seriously, I don't need to see *Blackwing Techinician: Bomb* |
| 18:22.10 | Tem | *Blackwing Techinician: Bomb* |
| 18:22.12 | Tem | *Blackwing Techinician: Bomb* |
| 18:22.14 | Tem | *Blackwing Techinician: Bomb* |
| 18:22.16 | Tem | *Blackwing Techinician: Bomb* |
| 18:22.20 | Tem | *Blackwing Techinician: Bomb* |
| 18:22.38 | hyperChipmunk | hmm, I wonder what the blackwing technicians are doing THIS tenth of a second... |
| 18:22.50 | XLVII | perhaps arming a bomb? |
| 18:22.50 | Tem | *Blackwing Techinician: Bomb* |
| 18:22.57 | XLVII | naw, couldn't be.. |
| 18:23.08 | Tem | *Blackwing Techinician: Sending Flowers* |
| 18:23.17 | hyperChipmunk | perhaps; alternatively, they may be auditioning for the part of 8th polka giraffe |
| 18:23.24 | hyperChipmunk | we'd better check |
| 18:24.14 | Mikma | Tem: someone said to me once i need to mod it to announce only the persons targeting me |
| 18:24.31 | Tem | that isn't practically possible |
| 18:24.34 | Wobin | Tekcub: Did you read what Greyswandir posted about the RaidChannelAPI? |
| 18:24.51 | hyperChipmunk | linx |
| 18:25.02 | Tekcub | no.... |
| 18:25.03 | Wobin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=409557 |
| 18:25.22 | Wobin | about 6 posts worth =) |
| 18:26.27 | Wobin | Well, tbh, that's something we should ask Cide. If there -was- an embeddable comm libarary made, would CTRA use it? |
| 18:27.13 | *** join/#wowace Dulark (n=Dulark@207.250.72.2) |
| 18:27.14 | hyperChipmunk | the third point he makes is good |
| 18:27.17 | hyperChipmunk | the rest is trash |
| 18:27.27 | hyperChipmunk | er, second |
| 18:27.51 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:28.21 | hyperChipmunk | though one could write a relay easily enough to account for that |
| 18:28.24 | Wobin | yeah |
| 18:28.36 | Wobin | It's not a limitation of the raidchannel |
| 18:28.37 | hyperChipmunk | the overall effort would be less |
| 18:29.11 | Wobin | although a relay would be... process consuming |
| 18:29.31 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but overall, the benefit outweighs |
| 18:29.33 | Wobin | you'd have to specify one person to do the channel relay |
| 18:29.46 | hyperChipmunk | how often would you need that though |
| 18:29.55 | Wobin | from the sounds of his post, every raid |
| 18:30.16 | hyperChipmunk | well, he and his mighty 'write it yourself' attitude can make a relay |
| 18:30.36 | Wobin | I think the biggest problem with writing it ourselves is getting people to use it |
| 18:30.50 | Wobin | We've all got certain ... opinions about other people's coding |
| 18:31.03 | Wobin | Perhaps if Iriel wrote it =) |
| 18:31.09 | hyperChipmunk | agreed; I delete all mods written by Wobin |
| 18:31.19 | Wobin | Yeah, they're not worth it |
| 18:31.34 | hyperChipmunk | and all apis written by ckknight |
| 18:31.44 | Wobin | But can you see how many people would use the library if it was written by, say, Miravlix? |
| 18:31.55 | hyperChipmunk | those big letters fill up all my hard drive space |
| 18:32.24 | hyperChipmunk | given history...probably 90% of all wow raiders =\ |
| 18:32.44 | Wobin | the raiders aren't the ones implementing it, the coders are |
| 18:33.24 | hyperChipmunk | but the raiders are the ones doubleclicking their OMGCOSMOSUPDATE.exe |
| 18:33.36 | Amadeo | I love how a level 36 Hunter can kite me indefinately |
| 18:34.45 | Amadeo | That's balance! |
| 18:34.47 | Wobin | well.. a well played one, no doubt? |
| 18:35.00 | hyperChipmunk | You're right in why Ace is not widely used. Users don't want to download this addon to use that addon. It's why I don't write addons that use Ace; As an author I refuse to make my users download something else to use my addon. If Ace ever became embedded, I would bet it'd see a lot more use. |
| 18:35.04 | Wobin | I know I'm lousy at pvp |
| 18:35.22 | Wobin | Wow |
| 18:35.25 | Wobin | I hope that happens soon! |
| 18:35.29 | Amadeo | Wobin: It's not too hard to kite as a Hunter, but I imagine most aren't great at it |
| 18:35.31 | hyperChipmunk | me too |
| 18:35.50 | Wobin | Amadeo: I've been practicing, but pvp is so different from pve |
| 18:36.01 | Wobin | My reaction times are lousy =) |
| 18:36.08 | hyperChipmunk | your form is weak |
| 18:36.20 | Wobin | aye |
| 18:36.22 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:36.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 18:36.23 | Amadeo | all you have to do against a Warrior is keep Cheetah on and stay at 41 yards, he'll never touch you |
| 18:36.37 | Amadeo | I was killing a 60 Warrior with Sulfuras on my 24 Hunter |
| 18:36.39 | Amadeo | he had to run away |
| 18:36.46 | Amadeo | it's so stupid how imbalanced they are |
| 18:36.46 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:37.11 | Wobin | heh, that's if you have the room |
| 18:37.28 | Amadeo | If you're a Hunter that's good with a Boar, you really can't lose |
| 18:37.46 | Wobin | boar? |
| 18:38.04 | Amadeo | they have a short root "charge" type thing |
| 18:38.05 | Tem | Tekcub, please smack that guy with a cluebat |
| 18:38.27 | Tekcub | hehe, not in the mood to waste time debating a point that blizzy hasn't commented on |
| 18:38.30 | Amadeo | it's good for getting range |
| 18:38.35 | Tekcub | have better shit to do on my day off |
| 18:38.47 | Tem | All his arguments are moot |
| 18:39.06 | Amadeo | I don't know how hard they hit..but who cares! Hunter DPS is higher than most classes without a pet |
| 18:39.16 | *** join/#wowace [Wobin] (n=Wobin@221.221.19.150) |
| 18:39.16 | Tekcub | I agree with "bad mods could cause issues" ... but that just means good mods would have good error checking |
| 18:39.47 | Tem | bad mods already cause issues |
| 18:39.47 | Tain | Bad mods can always cause issues, no matter what they're for. |
| 18:39.55 | Tekcub | exactly |
| 18:40.04 | Tekcub | but good mods compensate for that :) |
| 18:40.08 | Tem | For example: Arcanum |
| 18:40.15 | Tekcub | ckk... I had a though about something for you |
| 18:40.20 | Tekcub | but I don't remember what |
| 18:40.21 | Tem | Spend 200 milliseconds on each BAG_UPDATE? |
| 18:40.23 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 18:40.24 | [Wobin] | Sorry... "Boar?" |
| 18:40.24 | ckknight | oh |
| 18:40.27 | ckknight | you suck |
| 18:40.28 | Tekcub | regardless, implement or fix whatever it was |
| 18:40.41 | Amadeo | [Wobin]: Thet pig-looking pets |
| 18:40.44 | Amadeo | with little tusks |
| 18:40.45 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 18:40.49 | [Wobin] | yes, but why? =P |
| 18:40.58 | Amadeo | They have a charge-stun (root) skill |
| 18:41.08 | Tekcub | BAG_UPDATE is the most painful error I can think of anymore, at least they don't harm zoning events anymore |
| 18:41.48 | Tem | Tekcub, were you around when I found that yesterday? |
| 18:41.57 | Tekcub | found what now? |
| 18:42.02 | Tem | I was testing SEEBags |
| 18:42.30 | Tem | and I noticed that I was getting a tiny bit of lag on each BAG_UPDATE |
| 18:42.35 | Tem | I feared it was SEEBags |
| 18:42.47 | Tem | so I enabled Gello's OnEventWatch |
| 18:42.47 | Tekcub | and was anything using SEBags |
| 18:42.54 | Tem | Tekcub, ya, I was |
| 18:43.09 | Tem | so then I ran a mrplow theworks |
| 18:43.16 | Tem | then I had to walk away |
| 18:43.21 | Tekcub | because you're not considering that everything that runs from the trigger event will show up in that timespace that SEBag's event runs |
| 18:43.24 | Tem | because it was painful to watch |
| 18:43.40 | Tem | so then I looked at the stats on Gello's thing |
| 18:43.56 | Tem | and the shitty Mage addon was the culprit |
| 18:43.58 | Tekcub | trust me, I've profiled SE's times on events |
| 18:44.03 | Tem | taking 200ms per BAG_UPDATE |
| 18:44.10 | Tem | the next longest was AceEventFrame |
| 18:44.15 | Tem | taking 4ms |
| 18:44.16 | Tekcub | you have to remove the times when it's off in trigger event |
| 18:44.19 | [Wobin] | checking for? Mana agates and stuff? |
| 18:44.27 | Tem | Wobin, that's my guess |
| 18:44.38 | Amadeo | [Wobin]: So you'd have...Freezing Trap, Scatter Shot, Concussion Shot (and Improved), Wing Clip, Feign Death + Trap, and Boar-root....how could you *not* get range on someone and win? :) |
| 18:44.42 | Tekcub | cause that's not SE's code running at those times, but it'll show up wi thin SE's event execution |
| 18:44.45 | Tem | I took one look inside the file and I didn't have the stomach to get all the way to the OnEvent handler |
| 18:44.59 | Tekcub | which is why I pestered ckk to put profiling info ino Ace2 |
| 18:45.01 | Tem | Tekcub, chill. I'm complimenting SE |
| 18:45.09 | Tekcub | :P |
| 18:45.12 | Kebinusan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warlock&t=1141445&p=1&tmp=1#post1141445 hmmm good info |
| 18:45.15 | Tekcub | 200 is a bad number to me |
| 18:45.23 | Kebinusan | If you're a warlock |
| 18:45.33 | Tekcub | anyway... yea Ace2's profilenig in the event thing might helps ya |
| 18:45.40 | Tem | I just found it pretty funny that the crappy mage addon took 200 ms to process the event |
| 18:45.49 | Tem | and ALL my ace addons combined only took 4ms |
| 18:45.50 | Tekcub | root out what's doing what on a Special bag update |
| 18:45.57 | Tem | no n o |
| 18:46.03 | Tekcub | oh iceeee |
| 18:46.11 | Tekcub | it wasn't sebags on the 200 |
| 18:46.16 | Tem | no, you tard |
| 18:46.24 | Tekcub | yea *points at InvSort* |
| 18:46.31 | Tekcub | pulls like 50KiB per BU |
| 18:46.36 | Tem | *shudder* |
| 18:46.52 | Tekcub | damn xele and his lack of beingaround to fix shit |
| 18:47.04 | Tekcub | his metatables scare me or I woulda fixed it already |
| 18:47.15 | Amadeo | Kebinusan: Bah, like 0.5% of WoW players will ever have Tier 3 sets :P |
| 18:48.16 | Tekcub | yea ama, look at the dynamis relics in FFXI |
| 18:48.21 | *** join/#wowace Neronix (i=neronix@user-6937.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 18:48.36 | Neronix | Evening |
| 18:48.37 | Tekcub | there's like a whole 300 stage 4 and stage5 relics owned across all servers |
| 18:49.11 | ckknight | Tekcub, AceEvent-2.0 only gets info about Ace Events, not all events |
| 18:49.40 | Amadeo | Tekcub: haha, I've never played it...I heard a few bad things about the game |
| 18:49.49 | Amadeo | Neronix: Ammo says it's all your fault! |
| 18:49.50 | Tekcub | erm... you should profile all code trigged from AceEvents... |
| 18:50.00 | ckknight | yea, it does |
| 18:50.02 | mjc | relics? |
| 18:50.04 | Tekcub | how will we root out bad BAG_UPDATES taht use AE-2.0? |
| 18:50.08 | ckknight | but it only works for things that use AceEvent-2.0 |
| 18:50.15 | Tekcub | yea... duh |
| 18:50.17 | Tekcub | :) |
| 18:50.29 | Tekcub | I have other means of profiling for the "outsiders" |
| 18:50.34 | ckknight | so stuff like other people's addons will still be a black box |
| 18:50.36 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 18:50.59 | Tekcub | FFXI's relics are like uhm... hrm... there isn't a WoW comparioson... |
| 18:51.00 | Neronix | Amadeo: O.o? |
| 18:51.08 | Tekcub | basically you get a POS weapon from a drop |
| 18:51.14 | Amadeo | Tekcub: Are they like Relics in DAoC? |
| 18:51.16 | hyperChipmunk | k wtf Tekcub how come your tooltip thinger in ExpressMail works and my BUlkMail one doesn't |
| 18:51.18 | Tekcub | and there are currencies that drop, like ZG coins |
| 18:51.25 | Mikma | it's all neronix's fault |
| 18:51.30 | Tekcub | you take a ton of the coins and a bunch of money and upgrade |
| 18:51.38 | Amadeo | I see |
| 18:51.48 | Neronix | What did I do? |
| 18:51.50 | Tekcub | so in the end you just spend a lot of time, money and EXP upgrading the weapon |
| 18:51.55 | Amadeo | in DAoC there were relics that started out pretty crappy...and you had to kill mobs to level them up, it took forever |
| 18:51.58 | Amadeo | yeah, seems similar |
| 18:52.09 | Tekcub | each stage is better that the last... sage one is like 1 DMG 99 Dealy |
| 18:52.12 | Tekcub | *delay |
| 18:52.26 | Jens | How the devil does X-Code work on ui.worldofwar.net? Trying to make a simple bulleted list, but this markup seems different from any other forum markup out there, and their help is useless. |
| 18:52.45 | Tekcub | good luck Jens... |
| 18:52.51 | Jens | Bah. |
| 18:52.55 | Tekcub | hint: don't use links, they just delete them... |
| 18:53.04 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 18:53.07 | Tekcub | which is why I don't upload there anymore.. |
| 18:53.11 | Amadeo | Tekcub: I also heard that if you aren't Japanese nobody wants to do anything with you in FFXI :P |
| 18:53.14 | hyperChipmunk | someone's bitter =) |
| 18:53.15 | Neronix | Mikma, Amadeo: What? |
| 18:53.28 | Amadeo | Neronix: Oh, I msg'd it to you |
| 18:53.30 | Tekcub | yea.. .the JP's are kinda hard to get used to |
| 18:53.44 | Neronix | Ah, ok |
| 18:53.46 | Mikma | Neronix: i dunno, i was just going with the flow |
| 18:53.47 | [Wobin] | hrm |
| 18:53.56 | Tekcub | example, you cannot check people without asking permission... they seem to take it as though you're feeling them up |
| 18:54.06 | Tekcub | and they get really pissy |
| 18:54.11 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:54.21 | Tekcub | and there's always the translator wars |
| 18:54.26 | [Wobin] | Does anyone know how to implement sending attachments in php from a form? Like for example, I have a form that takes a file from the users hard drive, and I want to attach that file and email it. |
| 18:54.31 | Amadeo | That's so strange, because you generally find that Japanese people love Americans and our culture and Americans are the same way about the Japanese |
| 18:54.32 | Tekcub | (english) (party) (too weak) (leave!) |
| 18:54.56 | Tekcub | in game there's a rather harsh divide usually |
| 18:55.12 | Tekcub | but if you can get along with them, JP groups are kickass |
| 18:55.18 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:55.33 | Amadeo | The translator idea was one of the best I've heard of |
| 18:55.35 | Tekcub | my fastest leveling night ever was an all JP party with a Galka SMN/WHM |
| 18:55.50 | Tekcub | americans tend to think galka mages == gimp |
| 18:55.53 | [Wobin] | what's the acronyms stand for? |
| 18:55.59 | Tekcub | summoner/white mage |
| 18:56.23 | Amadeo | Oh, so a Black Mage isn't good enough? Has to be White? I see how it is! |
| 18:56.44 | Tekcub | WHM == priest |
| 18:56.49 | Tekcub | BLM == mage |
| 18:56.54 | Tekcub | RDM == druid :) |
| 18:57.05 | Neronix | BLM = I copy your skills! >) |
| 18:57.07 | Amadeo | Are there Warriors/Rogues? |
| 18:57.32 | Tekcub | RDM can do a bit of everything, but people only want them for Refresh (innervate) and healing |
| 18:57.40 | Tekcub | WAR, THF |
| 18:57.49 | ckknight | woot |
| 18:57.58 | ckknight | ClockFu 1.2 works with FuBar 2.0 |
| 18:58.02 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:58.03 | Tekcub | Pally is more a tanky class than a supportish healer class |
| 18:58.38 | Tekcub | BST + RNG == Hunter |
| 18:58.40 | Neronix | ckknight: How much overhead does the 1.x compatibility add? |
| 18:59.11 | ckknight | well, I basically just hacked FuBar until it didn't require Ace1 |
| 18:59.18 | ckknight | and not changing the way plugins are handled |
| 18:59.36 | ckknight | so the 1.2 compatibility is moot |
| 18:59.51 | Tekcub | wewt! BigWig's module works! |
| 19:00.15 | Tekcub | ckk, modules from ModuleCore don't have their enable or init methods ever called by the library, right? |
| 19:00.25 | Tekcub | i.e. I need to handle it myself |
| 19:00.35 | ckknight | it's all handled for you :-P |
| 19:00.41 | Tekcub | it is? okeydoodle |
| 19:00.46 | Tekcub | oh yea... it is |
| 19:00.48 | ckknight | and it is guaranteed that their enable/init functions are called after the core |
| 19:00.55 | Tekcub | I neve called it and it registered events |
| 19:01.14 | Tekcub | unless modulename.disabled == true, then no enable right? |
| 19:01.16 | Neronix | Oh god |
| 19:01.20 | Neronix | they made Sea embedded |
| 19:01.33 | ckknight | Tekcub, right, only not module:IsEnabled() |
| 19:01.39 | Tekcub | (Run away!) |
| 19:01.48 | ckknight | lol |
| 19:01.49 | [Wobin] | Neronix: Where They == AnduinLothar |
| 19:01.51 | Tekcub | hrm... |
| 19:01.54 | ckknight | it still sucks |
| 19:02.06 | ckknight | and I wonder what versioning system they use |
| 19:02.16 | ckknight | cause if it's Iriel's old one, it has serious flaws |
| 19:02.26 | Tekcub | so I need to define IsEnabled or just set disabled to true still? |
| 19:02.27 | ckknight | ones I know how to break :-P |
| 19:02.33 | ckknight | Tekcub, it's all handled for you |
| 19:02.34 | Neronix | They use somethign totally different |
| 19:02.45 | ckknight | Neronix, hrm, I'd like to see :-P |
| 19:02.51 | Neronix | brb, pastebinning |
| 19:03.08 | Tekcub | well ckk, I need to load some modules in a disabled state is all, what's the correct way to do that? |
| 19:03.25 | ckknight | Tekcub, :ToggleStandby() |
| 19:03.48 | Neronix | ckknight: http://ace.pastebin.ca/80704 |
| 19:03.52 | Neronix | That's SeaPrint |
| 19:04.50 | Tekcub | okey, thank ckk |
| 19:05.11 | Industrial | < Wobin> How are you referencing that? |
| 19:05.18 | Industrial | uhm its just an r g and b |
| 19:05.31 | Industrial | darn, gone |
| 19:05.39 | Industrial | [Wobin]: oh there you are |
| 19:05.40 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:05.52 | [Wobin] | relink the pastebin? |
| 19:06.05 | ckknight | Neronix, how primitive |
| 19:06.13 | ckknight | http://ace.pastebin.ca/80704 |
| 19:06.16 | Neronix | Indeed |
| 19:06.35 | [Wobin] | Oh |
| 19:06.38 | [Wobin] | It just replaces it |
| 19:06.53 | Industrial | http://pastebin.ca/80656 |
| 19:07.19 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=Andreas@0x57317a46.bynxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 19:07.26 | Mikma | ag`: hiya |
| 19:07.33 | ckknight | yea, that is horribly flawed |
| 19:07.49 | ckknight | especially in the event that they take out a field |
| 19:07.49 | ag` | Hi |
| 19:07.53 | ckknight | or anything like that |
| 19:07.54 | ckknight | hey ag` |
| 19:07.57 | ckknight | how's things? |
| 19:08.01 | [Wobin] | Industrial: You have self.Constants.Powerbar.Color.[Druid|Hunter|...] |
| 19:08.06 | ag` | Fine, just ordered my pizza :o |
| 19:08.14 | [Wobin] | Industrial: You have self.Constants.Powerbar.Color.[Druid|Hunter|...].[r|g|b] |
| 19:08.29 | [Wobin] | how is it referencing Constants.Powerbar.Color.r? |
| 19:08.54 | Industrial | uh |
| 19:08.57 | Industrial | thats an error |
| 19:08.59 | Industrial | ... |
| 19:09.08 | Industrial | but.. how is that possible :O |
| 19:09.18 | Industrial | lol |
| 19:10.47 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07FuBarPlugin-1.2 * r4130 10FuBar/ (. FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua): Created FuBarPlugin-1.2 branch |
| 19:11.17 | Tain | Wow. Guild I'm in is conemplating a policy where people who transfer in from other servers who have epic gear from content we hvaen't done yet (new server, just started MC this week) will have to pay the guild DKP for their existing epics. |
| 19:11.31 | Tain | I'm floored that they're even arguing with me on the absurdity of this. |
| 19:11.54 | Jens | I know how it it. |
| 19:11.56 | Jens | *is |
| 19:12.06 | Industrial | that is so not right Tain |
| 19:12.15 | Neronix | AL's also went and written a /command ebed |
| 19:12.16 | Industrial | as you having more epics means they get a better chance |
| 19:12.32 | Jens | I spent weeks arguing with my guild abour their retarded rule that you were only allowed to buy one item per run, regardless of how much DKP you had. |
| 19:12.46 | XLVII | tain, that's completely stupid? they should be greatful that they have epicced out characters |
| 19:12.54 | Industrial | are epics BoP? (I dont know) |
| 19:12.59 | Jens | Yes, Industrial. |
| 19:13.00 | Neronix | Industrial: Some are |
| 19:13.08 | Industrial | then thats also crap |
| 19:13.09 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:13.11 | Neronix | s/Some/Most/ |
| 19:14.11 | [Wobin] | Jens: That rule would encourage me to play that run only til I got what I wanted then leave =P |
| 19:14.28 | Jens | Yes. And their argument was that it was "more fair". |
| 19:14.52 | [Wobin] | But if someone blows all their DKP on a single run.... they won't be able to buy anything after that =P |
| 19:15.00 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07FuBar-compat-1.2 * r4131 10FuBar/ (4 files): FuBar-compat-1.2 - updated |
| 19:15.01 | Jens | How exactly is it fair to me that I spend so much time raiding, and have to pass Robes of Prophecy to a noob priest on his first run? |
| 19:15.08 | [Wobin] | ow |
| 19:16.36 | [Wobin] | How'd he get the dkp to buy that? =P |
| 19:16.37 | Jens | I passed, because I wanted EoD if it dropped (which it didn't). So I got nothing at all that run. |
| 19:16.37 | Tain | That's what some see as the problem, DKP hoarding. |
| 19:16.37 | XLVII | i swear, i am having to enter "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" -ProfileManager into the run box more then 5 times each week. |
| 19:16.37 | Jens | Luckily now I have both :D |
| 19:16.37 | Tain | Personally I don't see it as a problem, but that's what it is being said. |
| 19:16.37 | [Wobin] | hehe have decaying DKP =) |
| 19:16.37 | Jens | We use null DKP. |
| 19:16.37 | hyperChipmunk | DecayP? |
| 19:16.49 | [Wobin] | badum, tich! |
| 19:17.11 | XLVII | i've never reached endgame. |
| 19:17.20 | ag` | Hey ammo, could you post that position saving code? |
| 19:17.24 | Jens | [Wobin]: He got that DKP because the other priests had negative DKP. |
| 19:17.25 | ag` | [Ammo] |
| 19:17.26 | XLVII | i'm too picky when it comes to making a character |
| 19:17.28 | XLVII | ;( |
| 19:17.29 | Industrial | me too |
| 19:17.33 | Industrial | i lpayed everything to 20 |
| 19:17.34 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:17.40 | XLVII | same.. |
| 19:17.45 | XLVII | still can't decide what i like. |
| 19:17.50 | Industrial | Instead I code or do wsg |
| 19:17.55 | XLVII | haha |
| 19:17.57 | Industrial | but i leveled my twink rogue to 21 |
| 19:18.00 | Industrial | <--- ass |
| 19:18.05 | XLVII | heh. |
| 19:18.06 | Industrial | so now im bored, REALLY bored |
| 19:18.20 | XLVII | i'm thinking of going hunter |
| 19:19.04 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4133 10ag_UnitFrames/ (5 files): ag_UnitFrames - Wow! HP/Mana text works now, reads settings from DB =P |
| 19:19.04 | Jens | I think I'll level my mage alt. |
| 19:19.17 | Jens | Or my warlock. I tried playing rogue a bit, but I didn't like it. |
| 19:20.12 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4134 10BigWigs/ (. BigWigs.toc): |
| 19:20.12 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 19:20.12 | CIA-7 | - Setting up SVN:Keywords and TOC for Ace2 libraries |
| 19:20.39 | Wobin | ~x ge en Die von Ihnen angeforderte Seite steht vorübergehend nicht zur Verfügung |
| 19:20.56 | Wobin | aw =( |
| 19:21.00 | Jens | I can't look at Orlando Bloom without thinking "Many whelps! Now handle it!". |
| 19:21.06 | Wobin | heheh |
| 19:21.09 | Wobin | ~moredots |
| 19:21.11 | purl | You are going to DPS very, very slowly... and I mean f*cking slow! |
| 19:21.23 | Wobin | ~moredots |
| 19:21.25 | purl | You lose fifty DKP again, because you didn't know what he f*ck to do! |
| 19:21.30 | kergoth | meh |
| 19:21.36 | kergoth | i'm in wow video performance hell |
| 19:21.38 | kergoth | ~stab ati |
| 19:21.40 | purl | ACTION runs at ati with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 19:21.49 | Neronix | ~whalenametheft ati |
| 19:21.50 | purl | ACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) steals ati's name. The now anonymous target weeps. |
| 19:21.53 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4135 10BigWigs/ (. Core.lua): |
| 19:21.54 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 19:21.54 | CIA-7 | - Converted core to use AceAddon-2.0, AceEvents-2.0, AceLocale-2.0, and AceModuleCore-2.0 |
| 19:21.55 | *** join/#wowace Syzx (n=syzx@82.192.87.96) |
| 19:22.01 | Jens | On one of my Onyxia raids, I had to pass leadership to someone else, because I couldn't explain tactics without lauging :) |
| 19:22.08 | Neronix | lol |
| 19:22.14 | kergoth | woot, i found a setting tha tmakes opengl performance in wow under cedega get 30fps instead of 8! |
| 19:22.28 | ag` | what setting? |
| 19:22.38 | ag` | and what graphics card/cpu |
| 19:22.41 | XLVII | purl, that video is so damn funny. |
| 19:22.43 | purl | XLVII: what are you talking about? |
| 19:22.46 | Neronix | But I need help in getting opengl performance under windows above 8 fps >.> |
| 19:23.02 | XLVII | purl, ytmnd* |
| 19:23.05 | hyperChipmunk | 47 pwnd by bot |
| 19:23.07 | kergoth | ag`: its ati, hence the issues. athlon 64 box, radeon 9600xt w/ 128 megs of video ram |
| 19:23.18 | kergoth | ag`: direct3d performs well, but i get random pauses that make the game unplayable |
| 19:23.22 | XLVII | oh.. |
| 19:23.23 | Jens | Using ATI under Linux? Good riddance. |
| 19:23.24 | kergoth | opengl was <10fps |
| 19:23.26 | XLVII | teh fark? |
| 19:23.27 | XLVII | :( |
| 19:23.27 | ag` | kergoth, get a 6600GT... They're like free these days, Linux+ATI = pain |
| 19:23.29 | kergoth | Jens: yes, its a bitch |
| 19:23.31 | hyperChipmunk | ~purl |
| 19:23.33 | purl | well, purl is not one of the smart ones |
| 19:23.33 | Neronix | And why did I attack ATI? I use an nvidia card O.o |
| 19:23.43 | XLVII | i forgot he was a bot. |
| 19:23.51 | XLVII | didn't realise wobin executed commands on him. |
| 19:23.52 | XLVII | ;F |
| 19:23.55 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r4136 10/branches/Bartender/BarFuncs.lua: Bartender: BarFuncs error fixed |
| 19:23.59 | kergoth | ~remulate |
| 19:24.00 | purl | No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. |
| 19:24.19 | ag` | ~remulate |
| 19:24.20 | purl | dooom doooom doom |
| 19:24.23 | Neronix | kergoth: What setting? |
| 19:24.35 | hyperChipmunk | do not spam the happy fun bot! |
| 19:24.51 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4137 10BigWigs/Sound.lua: |
| 19:24.51 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 19:24.51 | CIA-7 | - Converted sounds module to use AceEvents-2.0, AceLocale-2.0, and AceModuleCore-2.0 |
| 19:25.05 | Jens | I hate that you can't trigger your own scripts in mIRC :/ |
| 19:25.20 | ag` | ~c'thun |
| 19:25.21 | purl | *** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - 10~ sec! *** |
| 19:25.57 | Neronix | ~drtran |
| 19:26.03 | Wobin | ~dr tran |
| 19:26.08 | Wobin | ~dr. tran |
| 19:26.09 | purl | Oh my god, look at that fat cock! |
| 19:26.14 | Wobin | =P |
| 19:26.17 | Jens | ^_o |
| 19:26.22 | kergoth | ag`: "clip space fix" |
| 19:26.29 | kergoth | ag`: that option caused my opengl to get 8fps instead of 35 |
| 19:26.35 | kergoth | having ti checked did, that is |
| 19:26.37 | ag` | oh |
| 19:26.56 | Neronix | That an ATI driver setting? |
| 19:27.00 | Neronix | Never seen that before |
| 19:27.05 | ag` | I'd still advice against running ATI+Linux though |
| 19:27.07 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub * r4138 10PaintChipsLib/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:27.07 | CIA-7 | PaintChipsLib - Initial submission |
| 19:27.07 | CIA-7 | - Color managing embedlib |
| 19:27.23 | XLVII | http://qdb.us/62580 |
| 19:27.35 | Wobin | oder Internetzugangs-Kennung |
| 19:27.41 | Wobin | bah |
| 19:28.14 | kergoth | Neronix: no, its a cedega setting |
| 19:28.44 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub * r4139 10PaintChipsLib/ (. PaintChips-2.0/PaintChips-2.0.lua PaintChipsLib.toc): PaintChipsLib - Setting SVN:Keywords |
| 19:29.30 | Kebinusan | does corkfu support group buffs like greater paladin blessings? |
| 19:30.19 | Neronix | kergoth: I see |
| 19:30.22 | Kebinusan | guess I could jsut open it up and look |
| 19:30.41 | Wobin | How's PaintChips differ from CrayonLib? |
| 19:31.25 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r4140 10BulkMail/ (6 files): |
| 19:31.25 | CIA-7 | BulkMail: |
| 19:31.25 | CIA-7 | - New feature: QuickSend |
| 19:31.25 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.47 | hyperChipmunk | >8) |
| 19:31.48 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4141 10BigWigs/ (. BigWigs.toc): |
| 19:31.48 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 19:31.48 | CIA-7 | - Added PaintChip-2.0 |
| 19:32.28 | XLVII | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.39 | XLVII | turned out it was just a huge amount of gas |
| 19:33.59 | hyperChipmunk | oh man |
| 19:34.01 | snurre | that's good, even i was a little worried |
| 19:34.11 | hyperChipmunk | I am SO abusing this QuickSend, now that it's in |
| 19:34.19 | XLVII | sorry, i speak what's on my mind before thinking about it. |
| 19:34.27 | XLVII | now, that in itself is a contradiction.. |
| 19:35.47 | Wobin | Although in consideration, SeaEmbedLib's methodology works fine for Sea |
| 19:35.53 | Tekcub | ckk, I don't need to call self.super.OnInitialize(self) now, right? |
| 19:35.57 | Wobin | Cause noone else other than AL is going to be working on it |
| 19:35.58 | ckknight | right |
| 19:39.26 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 072.0 * r4142 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBar_Panel.lua): FuBar - fixed drag & drop |
| 19:39.44 | ckknight | Wobin, I guess so |
| 19:39.56 | ckknight | I still much prefer the full-featuredness of AceLibrary |
| 19:40.01 | mjc | what was broken? |
| 19:40.09 | ckknight | mjc, FuBar 2.0 |
| 19:40.13 | mjc | aha |
| 19:40.17 | Wobin | yeah, you're planning on more than one developer |
| 19:40.29 | ckknight | well, not necessarily |
| 19:40.39 | Wobin | Well it has the capability to support |
| 19:40.43 | ckknight | AceLibrary just allows for API changes and complex backreferences |
| 19:40.57 | ckknight | and reference stability |
| 19:41.02 | Wobin | Sea is never going to change beyond what it is, probably. |
| 19:41.20 | Wobin | And if it does, AL will probably rewrite it fully |
| 19:42.08 | ckknight | best thing about AceLibrary is that we can upgrade horribly, horribly complex things like AceOO :-P |
| 19:44.15 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07FuBar-compat-1.2 * r4143 10FuBar/ (FuBar-compat-1.2.toc FuBarUtils.lua): FuBar-compat-1.2 - added FuBarUtils.lua |
| 19:44.20 | Neronix | http://qdb.us/60986 |
| 19:46.02 | XLVII | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DeMikg2TFE |
| 19:46.38 | ckknight | lol, Neronix |
| 19:47.32 | Thrae|Away | Damn, I hope it was my computer that locked up and not my code causing it. |
| 19:48.03 | Neronix | XLVII: That somehow reminds me of the dildo song |
| 19:48.05 | Amadeo | Thrae|Away: TinyTip will kill us!? |
| 19:48.16 | kergoth | ckknight: its funny how something as -conceptually- simple as aceoo becomes so complex an -implementation- |
| 19:48.31 | Thrae|Away | Amadeo: Haha, maybe. |
| 19:48.42 | ckknight | it is kinda complex, though |
| 19:49.39 | kergoth | well, classes and objects are basic, and the way i use factories to implement them makes it conceptually simple (at least once it stops melting your brain).. but i suppose once you throw in mixins and interfaces and such.. |
| 19:49.45 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x53584611.virnxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 19:49.57 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r4144 10BulkMail/gui.lua: |
| 19:49.57 | CIA-7 | BulkMail: |
| 19:49.57 | CIA-7 | - Minor bugfix |
| 19:50.07 | Wobin | BigBlueDress is still one of the best ones |
| 19:50.20 | Kebinusan | Hahah, I just introduced our paladins to corkfu |
| 19:50.22 | Kebinusan | they love me |
| 19:51.00 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqO7zEWu0W0&mode=related&search= |
| 19:52.09 | XLVII | http://www.uneasysilence.com/archive/2006/07/6919/ |
| 19:54.54 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4145 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Options.lua Sound.lua): |
| 19:54.54 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 19:54.54 | CIA-7 | - Converted Options.lua to use an Ace2 module with core. Menu now shows info for mods that have been converted, instead of ones that havn't |
| 19:57.02 | Neronix | Anyone feel like playing Sauerbraten or something? |
| 19:57.17 | Wobin | XLVII: That's great |
| 19:57.49 | Elkano | Sauerbraten? Oo |
| 19:58.34 | Neronix | http://sauerbraten.org/ |
| 20:00.27 | Wobin | XLVII: My god, slapping machine =P |
| 20:00.33 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 20:03.08 | Neronix | So nobody wants to play then? :( |
| 20:05.41 | Elkano | hmm... well... no... |
| 20:06.03 | Elkano | any other suggestions? popular HL/HL² mods? ET? |
| 20:06.07 | Wobin | Neronix: Nice atmospherics |
| 20:06.47 | Wobin | ~paper |
| 20:06.49 | purl | paper, play again. |
| 20:06.54 | Wobin | ~rock |
| 20:06.56 | purl | [rock] kinda bsd-ish, too - in the future i'll probably transfer to rock, when it's default devfs doesn't screw up with xonox's partitioning nightmare |
| 20:07.02 | Wobin | ~stone |
| 20:07.03 | purl | paper, I win. |
| 20:07.06 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 20:07.06 | Wobin | bah |
| 20:07.10 | Wobin | ~scissors |
| 20:07.12 | purl | rock, I win. |
| 20:07.19 | Wobin | purl cheats =( |
| 20:07.39 | Elkano | ~well |
| 20:07.40 | purl | That's a deep subject, elkano. |
| 20:07.51 | XLVII | just curious |
| 20:08.09 | XLVII | didn't bandages used to be instant instead of channeled before 1.11? |
| 20:08.20 | Elkano | no |
| 20:08.25 | Neronix | They were always channeled |
| 20:08.30 | XLVII | ok.. |
| 20:08.38 | XLVII | i wonder what made me think that then |
| 20:08.40 | XLVII | i'm heading to bed |
| 20:08.41 | XLVII | night. |
| 20:08.47 | hyperChipmunk | ~paper |
| 20:08.50 | purl | paper, play again. |
| 20:09.02 | hyperChipmunk | ~paper |
| 20:09.03 | purl | rock, you win. |
| 20:09.08 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 20:09.09 | ckknight_ | ~rock |
| 20:09.10 | purl | i guess rock is kinda bsd-ish, too - in the future i'll probably transfer to rock, when it's default devfs doesn't screw up with xonox's partitioning nightmare |
| 20:09.13 | Neronix | ~penmissile |
| 20:09.15 | hyperChipmunk | ~stone |
| 20:09.16 | purl | scissors, you win. |
| 20:09.21 | ag` | anyway when inside an object of your addon you can't call addon things with self... as that refers to the object itself :-) |
| 20:09.25 | hyperChipmunk | that's awesome |
| 20:09.43 | hyperChipmunk | pass it a new self |
| 20:10.42 | Neronix | (For those who don't get the pen missile joke... http://www.rockpapersaddam.com/one.html ) |
| 20:11.13 | hyperChipmunk | where do those who don't care go? |
| 20:11.28 | Tem | Tekcub, there. I did your job for you |
| 20:11.35 | hyperChipmunk | ooh |
| 20:11.36 | Tem | take a look at the raid API thread |
| 20:11.37 | hyperChipmunk | do mine next |
| 20:11.39 | Tekcub | oreo? |
| 20:11.43 | Tekcub | oh |
| 20:12.26 | Amadeo | double stuff |
| 20:13.26 | mjc | heh |
| 20:15.45 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 20:15.49 | purl | There's this game where you put in a dollar and you win four quarters. I win every time! |
| 20:15.56 | Kebinusan | wow, I was in tears watching that library antics video |
| 20:16.32 | kergoth | hrm, i loveses msbt, but its ram usage is up there, isnt it. didnt expect itd break 1 meg |
| 20:16.55 | Kebinusan | kergoth, yeah the options need to be load on demand |
| 20:17.04 | hyperChipmunk | ya |
| 20:17.11 | hyperChipmunk | it's still less than sct+sctd |
| 20:17.36 | Amadeo | eh? |
| 20:17.40 | Amadeo | SCTD must be huge then |
| 20:17.45 | kergoth | Kebinusan: good point, thatd probably do it |
| 20:17.47 | Mikma | kergoth: yeah author said he will be making lod config |
| 20:18.19 | kergoth | slick |
| 20:18.27 | Amadeo | Anyone have a website that lets you try on high tier armor sets? official WoW is down |
| 20:18.38 | kergoth | wheres a working acewardrobe? |
| 20:18.44 | kergoth | i grabbed the one on wowi and it errors :P |
| 20:19.15 | Kebinusan | sct+sctd is about 512kib |
| 20:19.30 | Kebinusan | I checked yesterday, thats w/o the options menus loaded of course |
| 20:19.42 | kergoth | woot, kael's onebag is looking good |
| 20:19.47 | Amadeo | Kebinusan: Yeah, didn't you say the other was like 1000-something KiB? |
| 20:19.57 | Kebinusan | yeah just lover 1meg |
| 20:20.05 | Thrae|Away | Dammit I used to know this...how do I do global substitutions in vi? |
| 20:20.16 | kergoth | :%s/foo/bar/ |
| 20:20.17 | Kebinusan | :%s/ |
| 20:20.20 | Amadeo | Kebinusan: That's a huge difference imo :P |
| 20:20.24 | Thrae|Away | Ahhh, %s |
| 20:20.25 | kergoth | s accepts a range. % is all lines |
| 20:20.57 | Kebinusan | Amadeo, it is but the configuration menu is a huge part of that, sct used to take up quite a bit before the menu was switched to load on demand |
| 20:21.16 | Amadeo | I see |
| 20:21.18 | kergoth | i wonder if its easy to inject messages into msbt's event display |
| 20:21.22 | Amadeo | so how big is SCT+SCTD with the menu open? :) |
| 20:21.33 | kergoth | could modify the new witchhunt 2.0 to put its messages there :) |
| 20:21.41 | Amadeo | kergoth: That would rock |
| 20:21.50 | Amadeo | for SCT too :P |
| 20:21.54 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:22.00 | Thrae|Away | :%s/TinyTipUtil_GetDB\(".\+"\)/db\["\1"\]/ <-- isn't making any substitutions |
| 20:22.03 | kergoth | i used spellalertsct for quite a while |
| 20:22.43 | kergoth | likely a pro blem with your escaping. vi's is different than perl's. i dont recall if [] have to be escaped to act like normal brackets for example |
| 20:22.44 | Mikma | hmm |
| 20:23.16 | Thrae|Away | [] are used for sets, so they need to be escaped |
| 20:23.19 | hyperChipmunk | it's \( \) |
| 20:23.25 | hyperChipmunk | oh n/m |
| 20:23.42 | hyperChipmunk | thought you were trying to capture with the [] |
| 20:23.43 | kergoth | Thrae|Away: in the replacement side? i doubt that. |
| 20:23.44 | Amadeo | kergoth: Yeah, SASCT is nice too |
| 20:23.49 | kergoth | Thrae|Away: on the search side, sure |
| 20:23.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:24.10 | hyperChipmunk | deleting MSBTOptions.* drops 600K from the WU |
| 20:24.37 | Amadeo | damn |
| 20:24.44 | Amadeo | that's good then! |
| 20:24.45 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't work, of cuorse =) |
| 20:24.50 | Amadeo | hahahaha |
| 20:24.54 | Thrae|Away | Alright, I removed the escaping from the rep, but still not doing anything... |
| 20:25.06 | kergoth | looking into it, thrae |
| 20:25.14 | hyperChipmunk | MikScrollingBattleText.lua:834: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value) --- |
| 20:25.16 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
| 20:25.48 | Thrae|Away | Ah wait |
| 20:26.07 | Thrae|Away | I got confused by Lua regexp -- \( \) captures, ( ) are regular parentheses |
| 20:26.13 | ckknight_ | http://qdb.us/60728 |
| 20:26.15 | Thrae|Away | Which is the opposite for Lua |
| 20:26.44 | kergoth | yes, as i explained, its escaping is different :) |
| 20:26.47 | kergoth | it does get confusing |
| 20:26.57 | kergoth | especially if you use perl, python, lua, and vim on a daily basis, which i do :\ |
| 20:27.10 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 20:27.25 | hyperChipmunk | that's the ONLY error you get |
| 20:27.40 | hyperChipmunk | hardcode it with the font you use and you're good to go |
| 20:28.07 | hyperChipmunk | well, its index in localization.lua |
| 20:28.17 | Thrae|Away | What's so hot about Mikk's Scrolling Battle Text, anyway? The multiple Scrolling windows? |
| 20:29.10 | hyperChipmunk | it's nice and small after you delete the options =D |
| 20:29.49 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: sweet. you should just make it lod for him ;) |
| 20:30.17 | hyperChipmunk | screw that |
| 20:30.20 | hyperChipmunk | wfm! |
| 20:31.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:31.37 | Amadeo | kergoth: He just did! |
| 20:31.49 | Amadeo | 16:24 < hyperChipmunk> deleting MSBTOptions.* drops 600K from the WU |
| 20:31.55 | Amadeo | To load it, you just put the directory back in! |
| 20:32.01 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I don't know anything about LoD |
| 20:32.01 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 20:32.02 | Amadeo | or whatever it comes in! |
| 20:32.03 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 20:32.48 | kergoth | hrm |
| 20:33.10 | kergoth | acewardrobe is teeny, but so much less flexible than itemrack, and no trinketmenu-like quick item switching |
| 20:33.56 | Amadeo | Row row row your bloat, gently down the stream |
| 20:34.36 | kergoth | functionality isnt bloat if used on a daily basis :P |
| 20:34.58 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 20:35.04 | hyperChipmunk | no, I'm all for it |
| 20:35.15 | kergoth | bah, i seem to always get 16-20K/s when not doing anything at all |
| 20:35.18 | hyperChipmunk | if you can replace IR/TM for me, I will <3 you |
| 20:36.00 | Wobin | meh, I hear Bulkmail sends you spam |
| 20:36.05 | Wobin | And that slows you down |
| 20:36.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:36.19 | kergoth | i really like the new onebag kael's been working on |
| 20:36.25 | Tain | Me too kergoth |
| 20:36.26 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 20:36.38 | Kebinusan | I havent tried it yet, sounds like I should get with the times |
| 20:36.40 | Tain | I use Bulkmail to send people viagra ads |
| 20:36.46 | kergoth | even colors the borders for professions specific slots purple |
| 20:36.50 | hyperChipmunk | hmm...BulkMail needs spam-sending features |
| 20:36.51 | kergoth | its all nifty |
| 20:37.16 | Kebinusan | I miss engbags too much despite the bloat |
| 20:37.35 | kergoth | mrplow is your friend |
| 20:37.41 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4146 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_Defaults.lua ag_UnitClass.lua ag_UnitFrames.lua): ag_UnitFrames - Position saving added |
| 20:37.46 | kergoth | cant wait for plowking to stabilize though |
| 20:37.54 | Wobin | It's Ace2 now =) |
| 20:37.57 | hyperChipmunk | Greetings, sir or madam. My family was killed in the destruction of Gnomeregan and I have inherited a large amount of gold... |
| 20:37.57 | ag` | pro |
| 20:38.05 | Wobin | hC =) |
| 20:38.08 | ckknight_ | lol |
| 20:38.19 | ckknight_ | you should totally send out spam like that |
| 20:38.21 | ckknight_ | over WoW |
| 20:38.37 | ag` | hopefully someone would mail you gold |
| 20:38.41 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 20:38.43 | Wobin | "However, it has been held by thank Bank of Stormwind pending release of certain investigations into tax related issues..." |
| 20:38.46 | hyperChipmunk | I'll build it into bulkmail |
| 20:38.50 | ag` | hey, people fails to those scams in real life each day |
| 20:39.09 | hyperChipmunk | it'll scan your friendslist and covertly send spam to all of them |
| 20:39.23 | Wobin | and redirect the resultant gold to a mule =) |
| 20:39.32 | Wobin | hm, haven't we discussed this before ? =) |
| 20:39.34 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 20:40.08 | Kebinusan | see we need bulkmail to do /chatwho lfg and mail them all some weird item giftwrapped with a large COD |
| 20:40.11 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub * r4147 10PaintChipsLib/PaintChips-2.0/PaintChips-2.0.lua: |
| 20:40.11 | CIA-7 | PaintChipsLib |
| 20:40.11 | CIA-7 | - RGB functions now return the rgb values as returns 2-4 |
| 20:40.19 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 20:40.27 | ckknight_ | I'm surprised no one has made a trojan in a mod to mail gold to their chars |
| 20:40.56 | Tain | I thought I had one somewhere, I was hearing the gold sound occasionally. |
| 20:41.06 | Wobin | hehe |
| 20:41.08 | Tain | Until I realized it was the new flight stuff autopaying midflight. |
| 20:41.08 | Wobin | eeevil |
| 20:41.21 | ckknight_ | ah |
| 20:41.26 | ckknight_ | it pays mid-flight? |
| 20:41.29 | Wobin | yeah |
| 20:41.29 | hyperChipmunk | ya |
| 20:41.38 | hyperChipmunk | like a toll booth =) |
| 20:41.44 | Wobin | that way if you cancel midflight, it won't charge you full fare =P |
| 20:42.01 | Neronix | You can cancel midflight? |
| 20:42.04 | Tain | How do you actually cancel? I've done it but I don't know how. |
| 20:42.05 | hyperChipmunk | except the only way to cancel is completely out of character |
| 20:42.09 | hyperChipmunk | logout and back in |
| 20:42.15 | Neronix | Ah |
| 20:42.19 | hyperChipmunk | you'll drop off at the next stop |
| 20:42.25 | Tain | I could swear I did something else that made me drop out at the next stop without quitting out. |
| 20:42.35 | hyperChipmunk | afaik there's no in-character way to do it |
| 20:42.36 | Tain | But, I don't know that for a fact. |
| 20:42.46 | Wobin | It'll drop you off at the next stop |
| 20:42.56 | Wobin | maybe reloadui? |
| 20:43.01 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 20:43.02 | Wobin | I've never tried that midflight |
| 20:43.10 | hyperChipmunk | I do that enough to have noticed |
| 20:43.20 | Neronix | Reloadui doesn't do i |
| 20:43.23 | Neronix | +t |
| 20:44.41 | Neronix | Grr.. Do LCD and TFT monitors use less energy and generate less heat than CRTs? |
| 20:44.55 | Neronix | CRT's about to burst into flames, and the room's well ventilated |
| 20:45.09 | Neronix | and the electricity bill's £230 >.> |
| 20:47.05 | Wobin | Neronix: I -think- so |
| 20:47.15 | Wobin | They may generate less heat |
| 20:47.39 | Neronix | Noted, thanks |
| 20:47.53 | Tekcub | hey ckk, if I were to try to get a localestirng from AceLocale that was never defined in any locale, would AL just return back the string I passed to it? |
| 20:47.56 | Wobin | Neronix: They're also cooler =) |
| 20:48.07 | ckknight_ | no, Tekcub |
| 20:48.26 | ckknight_ | to prevent casing errors and such |
| 20:48.28 | Tekcub | bugger, I hate making locale tables of ["option"} = "option" |
| 20:48.28 | gnorlish | a quick search comes up with lcd's using 50% - 60% less energy than crt |
| 20:48.37 | Tekcub | hrm... true... okey |
| 20:48.39 | Neronix | Fandabidozi |
| 20:48.52 | ckknight_ | sorry, but it's needed. the locale needs something to compare to when translating |
| 20:49.01 | Neronix | do they still look horrible in games? The ghosting and stuff... |
| 20:49.10 | mjc | immediately after I /kci broker ahcolor with the AH browse window open, I got a grey tooltip in the upper right hand corner with one of the items that were in the browse window in it, and it wouldn't go away until I /rl'd |
| 20:49.15 | hyperChipmunk | I was thinking about that |
| 20:49.19 | mjc | screenshot incoming |
| 20:49.21 | gnorlish | i haven't played an fps on either of my new lcds, but wow certainly looks badass |
| 20:49.21 | Tain | That hasn't been the case with most current LCDs in a few years, Neronix |
| 20:49.26 | Tekcub | yea I didn't think of case typos and such |
| 20:49.27 | gnorlish | and ghosting really isn't an issue lately |
| 20:49.29 | hyperChipmunk | can it return just the tsring if it' snot found in the table? |
| 20:49.49 | Neronix | K, I'll be hunting for a decent one |
| 20:49.52 | hyperChipmunk | that would at least eliminate one localization file |
| 20:49.52 | Neronix | Thanks for the advice |
| 20:49.56 | mjc | meh the screenshot didn't fire before the /rl did |
| 20:50.21 | gnorlish | viewsonic, samsung both make excellent lcd monitors |
| 20:50.33 | gnorlish | that aren't incredibly expensive |
| 20:50.40 | hyperChipmunk | e.g. print(L"hyperactiveChipmunk owns your soul") prints 'hyperactiveChipmumk owns your soul' if it doesn't find it in the table for your locale |
| 20:50.44 | Neronix | Noted, thanks |
| 20:51.22 | hyperChipmunk | just return the key if the value is nil |
| 20:51.25 | Tain | Of course once you start gaming with a widescreen LCD you never go back. :) |
| 20:51.36 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 20:51.45 | Neronix | No room on this tiny desk for a widescreen :( |
| 20:51.52 | gnorlish | i've got the 20.1" viewsonic ws |
| 20:51.57 | Neronix | 15" will do |
| 20:52.05 | gnorlish | it's so good i'm trading in my 19" one for another |
| 20:52.19 | Tain | I used a 17" widescreen before this one and it was still better in my opinion than a 19" normal CRT. |
| 20:52.37 | Wobin | I used to have a 21"CRT |
| 20:52.39 | Tain | Different, but I liked it a lot better. |
| 20:52.49 | Wobin | I had maybe 5 or so inches in front of it for desk space |
| 20:52.56 | Tain | My 19" died and I had to pick up something quick and grabbed a cheap Westinghouse 17" WS. Was great. |
| 20:53.21 | pagefault | yeah |
| 20:53.27 | pagefault | I am so tempted to buy this 20"1 WS on sale |
| 20:53.28 | Neronix | This CRT's about to die too |
| 20:53.37 | Neronix | Sometimes the red gun dies |
| 20:53.44 | Neronix | have to punch the corner a few times to fix it |
| 20:53.47 | Tain | When I had to give it a couple whacks on the side to make the picture come in I knew it was time. :) |
| 20:53.53 | Tain | haha yeah |
| 20:54.13 | Neronix | And it only goes up to 1024x768 (But I don't need to go higher anyway) |
| 20:54.53 | gnorlish | where do you euro guys get your computer gear? newegg doesn't reach you does it? |
| 20:56.46 | Tekcub | there's europeans in here? get the fuck out! NOW!!! |
| 20:56.58 | ckknight_ | http://qdb.us/31823 |
| 20:56.59 | Neronix | K |
| 20:57.00 | *** part/#wowace Neronix (i=neronix@user-6937.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 20:57.08 | *** join/#wowace Neronix (i=neronix@user-6937.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 20:57.08 | Tekcub | and don't come back! |
| 20:57.14 | *** part/#wowace Neronix (i=neronix@user-6937.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 20:57.15 | Tain | As much as I've loved Newegg over the years now that they don't fo free FedEx supersaver I use zipzoomfly.com a lot more. |
| 20:57.25 | Thrae|Away | UK has some decent computer prices. |
| 20:57.43 | *** join/#wowace NotNeronix (i=neronix@user-6937.l3.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 20:57.50 | Amadeo | Where's Neronix!?!?! |
| 20:57.59 | NotNeronix | Europe |
| 20:58.20 | NotNeronix | Damn not-very-far-eastern bastard and his weird £ currency! |
| 21:00.55 | Mikma | rofl it works |
| 21:01.24 | hyperChipmunk | what works? |
| 21:02.03 | Tem | lol Tekcub |
| 21:02.07 | Tem | that's my new favorite verb |
| 21:02.16 | Tem | "Deucing" |
| 21:02.17 | Tekcub | deucing? |
| 21:02.20 | Tekcub | :) |
| 21:02.24 | *** join/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce5.disney.com) |
| 21:02.27 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: i did an interesting function that sets the default layout no matter what uiscale is on use |
| 21:02.53 | Neronix`afk | Deuce: Advantage! |
| 21:03.16 | clad|sleep | Who the hell is this guy |
| 21:03.17 | clad|sleep | O.o |
| 21:03.24 | Ratbert_CP | Alright, why the heck do we have to have chat commands in AceConsole-2.0? Hmmm? I've decided to for TinyPad as a dependancy, and tell people to use that... |
| 21:03.34 | CIA-7 | 03id * r4148 10idUnitframes/idUnitframes.lua: idUnitframes: We have a target frame! |
| 21:03.40 | Industrial | HUAH |
| 21:03.41 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:03.50 | clad|gym | your mom has a target frame |
| 21:03.57 | Industrial | hehe |
| 21:04.10 | Ratbert_CP | My mom has an elite unit frame... |
| 21:04.15 | Mikma | LOL i managed to do a smart move too in accident |
| 21:04.20 | Industrial | im rare.. |
| 21:04.28 | Industrial | Mikma: \o/ |
| 21:04.33 | clad|gym | i dont want to go to the gym |
| 21:04.35 | clad|gym | I want to code Luna |
| 21:04.36 | Industrial | I CBA to code any further right now |
| 21:04.37 | clad|gym | =( |
| 21:04.37 | Industrial | it works |
| 21:04.38 | Mikma | if you drag bar1 others will follow |
| 21:04.38 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:04.44 | Industrial | Luna? |
| 21:04.48 | Mikma | that really wasn't on purpose but hey it's freaking good lol! |
| 21:04.53 | Industrial | clad|gym: gym is good |
| 21:05.09 | Industrial | Mikma: heh |
| 21:05.11 | hyperChipmunk | ew, why would you want to code Luna |
| 21:05.12 | clad|gym | Luna will implement most of this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=406803&s=new&tmp=1#new |
| 21:05.13 | Tem | ugh |
| 21:05.19 | Tem | this guy is annoying the hell out o me |
| 21:05.22 | clad|gym | I KNOW |
| 21:05.27 | Tem | he clearly has no clue wtf he's talking about |
| 21:05.31 | clad|gym | not at all |
| 21:05.32 | Neronix`afk | The Zander guy? |
| 21:05.37 | Neronix`afk | Or the one with the weird name? |
| 21:05.49 | clad|gym | Tem: I'm coding it tonight if you want to play =) |
| 21:05.51 | clad|gym | lol |
| 21:05.54 | Tem | I have to restrain myself from posting "You post is nonsense" |
| 21:06.00 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 21:06.00 | Tem | yay! |
| 21:06.06 | Tem | I don't have a raid tonight |
| 21:06.14 | Tem | well, there is ZG, but that's short |
| 21:06.36 | clad|gym | what i need |
| 21:06.41 | clad|gym | is a standard for channel name |
| 21:06.44 | clad|gym | that doesn't rely on a token |
| 21:06.52 | clad|gym | i already can handle non-raid member messages |
| 21:07.29 | ckknight_ | http://qdb.us/30241 |
| 21:09.24 | CIA-7 | 03cladhaire * r4149 10Luna/: Luna: Directory creation, to signify intent |
| 21:09.27 | clad|gym | *flex* |
| 21:09.31 | clad|gym | Tem: Feel free to get started |
| 21:09.37 | MoonWolf | luna |
| 21:09.39 | clad|gym | I wanted to go with Luna, since Satellite is now taken |
| 21:09.40 | MoonWolf | nice name |
| 21:09.44 | clad|gym | *shrug* |
| 21:09.47 | Tem | clad|gym, too many plates |
| 21:09.47 | Amadeo | Luna?! |
| 21:09.51 | clad|gym | and its still "spacey" |
| 21:09.55 | Amadeo | I keep thinking about the Windows UI now |
| 21:09.59 | Tem | clad|gym, it was supposed to be Satellite |
| 21:10.01 | Mikma | crap |
| 21:10.03 | Tem | fuck the bastard |
| 21:10.07 | clad|gym | Tem: Satellite is already written. |
| 21:10.08 | Tem | damnit that pisses me off |
| 21:10.15 | Tem | and it makes no sense for that name |
| 21:10.15 | clad|gym | i know |
| 21:10.15 | Mikma | the only problem is my database import won't work properly :( |
| 21:10.18 | Amadeo | Tem: Who/wha? |
| 21:10.19 | clad|gym | not at all |
| 21:10.26 | clad|gym | Amadeo: Anduin |
| 21:10.31 | Thrae|Away | clad|gym: Did you ever hash out psuedo-code for AceDB dynamic string compression? |
| 21:10.37 | Tem | damnit, I hate that guy so much |
| 21:10.37 | Amadeo | That name is familiar |
| 21:10.45 | Neronix`afk | Amadeo: Responsible for Sea |
| 21:10.51 | Neronix`afk | and bits of Cosmos |
| 21:10.57 | Amadeo | ohhhh |
| 21:11.02 | Amadeo | Yeah, I remember now |
| 21:11.07 | Amadeo | he's that elitist guy, right/ :P |
| 21:11.07 | clad|gym | Thrae|Away: No, I pushed it off-- for a number of reasons |
| 21:11.16 | clad|gym | there is no heuristic way to detemine what level to compress (don't ask) |
| 21:11.17 | Neronix`afk | Go make a voodoo doll of him and let your imagination go wild ;P |
| 21:11.38 | Thrae|Away | Anduin maintains all of Cosmos's libs, to my knowledge. |
| 21:11.41 | clad|gym | and we'd have to do the entire thing in bitlib, which would pretty much kill any efficiency we have |
| 21:11.53 | clad|gym | I'll ask him to let us take Satellite |
| 21:11.55 | clad|gym | but i doubt he will |
| 21:12.03 | clad|gym | given that he already thinks sky does it all beautifully |
| 21:12.05 | Mikma | rofl symbolic link was missing |
| 21:12.08 | Mikma | it works! |
| 21:12.24 | Amadeo | Last time I tried Sky+Addons was ages ago, and I hated it with a passion |
| 21:13.11 | ckknight_ | bitlib? |
| 21:13.34 | clad|gym | yes, the bit library? |
| 21:13.56 | Tem | clad|gym, you going to support all types of comm or just raid? |
| 21:14.53 | Ratbert_CP | How would bitlib kill effeciency? |
| 21:15.01 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r4150 10/branches/Bartender/ (BarFuncs.lua Bartender.toc Core.lua Layout.lua): |
| 21:15.01 | CIA-7 | Bartender: |
| 21:15.01 | CIA-7 | * Default Layout will be loaded for _ALL_ UIScales! |
| 21:15.01 | CIA-7 | * DataBase import works! |
| 21:15.02 | CIA-7 | * Drag the Bar1 and rest will follow |
| 21:15.20 | clad|gym | Tem: This would just be raid |
| 21:15.22 | Thrae|Away | clad|gym: I think you're making it more complicated then it needs to be. I was just thinking of a simple compress-nested-tables-into-strings approach for large DBs. |
| 21:15.25 | clad|gym | Ratbert_CP: Function calls are expensive. |
| 21:15.26 | Mikma | i must say that turned out to be superb |
| 21:15.41 | clad|gym | when your're talking about something liek huffman coding. |
| 21:15.42 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight_: did you see my sugquestion about default locale in Ace2? |
| 21:15.45 | clad|gym | and i dont want to half-ass it. |
| 21:15.56 | ckknight_ | no, hyperChipmunk |
| 21:15.58 | Ratbert_CP | Gotcha. |
| 21:16.01 | clad|gym | Thrae|Away: well thats simple, just serialization. |
| 21:16.27 | hyperChipmunk | can the localization return the string you want to convert if it can't find it? |
| 21:16.27 | ckknight_ | no |
| 21:16.31 | ckknight_ | and I will not add it |
| 21:16.31 | clad|gym | O.o? |
| 21:16.32 | hyperChipmunk | that would allow a default localization to be built-in |
| 21:16.45 | Thrae|Away | clad|gym: Yeah, but for absurdly large DBs like LootLink, having 90% of your DB usually compressed can result in HUGE savings. |
| 21:16.47 | ckknight_ | it doesn't fit the schema, and it'd fuck up debugging |
| 21:16.47 | clad|gym | ckknight_: That doesn't seem like an obscene request |
| 21:16.47 | hyperChipmunk | and we wouldn't have to write those silly unreadable loc files |
| 21:16.56 | ckknight_ | and it'd cause casing errors |
| 21:17.09 | clad|gym | Thrae|Away: There is already an addon that does that. |
| 21:17.15 | clad|gym | and I could give Kael a data-specific algorithm |
| 21:17.18 | hyperChipmunk | but the localization files are hard enough to read and debug as it is |
| 21:17.19 | clad|gym | but thats really the best option |
| 21:17.26 | clad|gym | trust me I spent days on it to begin with =) |
| 21:17.34 | Thrae|Away | Really? Which addon? |
| 21:17.39 | clad|gym | umm |
| 21:17.52 | Tekcub | hey uhm ckk.... :GetModule("name") should return a reference to the module, don't ya think? returning back tho name might as well just return true, which might as well use :IsModule |
| 21:17.56 | hyperChipmunk | or maybe a token we could use to say "use the key" |
| 21:18.03 | ckknight_ | hyperChipmunk, tell me a way to know what translations are available, in order to prevent other locales from fucking up the casing.... and to prevent you from casing errors/silly typos |
| 21:18.15 | ckknight_ | Tekcub, eep. it should |
| 21:18.19 | ckknight_ | Tekcub, wait, it does |
| 21:18.22 | hyperChipmunk | well, typo's can't be worse than the current implementation |
| 21:18.24 | clad|gym | Thrae|Away: I'm not sure off the top of my head |
| 21:18.36 | ckknight_ | hyperChipmunk, they're caught right away |
| 21:18.40 | Tekcub | oh yea... I forgot the ToStirng |
| 21:18.47 | Tekcub | I did a print and just got the name :) |
| 21:18.53 | ckknight_ | hehe |
| 21:18.55 | Tekcub | and the API docs say it retrns the name |
| 21:19.21 | Tekcub | oh wait... yea that needs reworded |
| 21:19.40 | Tekcub | "The module "name" if it exists." --> "The module requested, if it exists" |
| 21:20.00 | Tekcub | that combined with the tostring is kinda confusing |
| 21:20.24 | hyperChipmunk | anything at all so that at least the programmer's native locale file doesn't look like this: http://ace.pastebin.ca/79898 |
| 21:20.24 | ckknight_ | yea, change it |
| 21:20.44 | Tekcub | doned |
| 21:20.45 | ckknight_ | hyperChipmunk, also, how do I tell apart translations like Tauren vs. Tauren? |
| 21:20.53 | ckknight_ | with your way |
| 21:21.08 | ckknight_ | with the current way, I have Tauren and Tauren_PL |
| 21:21.11 | Mikma | anyone knows is there any way to snap the actionbars to each other and prevent them to go ontop of each other? |
| 21:21.11 | haste_ | hyperChipmunk, haha, change resolution to 800x600, it becomes unreadable then ;D |
| 21:21.16 | clad|gym | hyperChipmunk: Can't you just do L"DEFAULT_DEST_MESSAGE" |
| 21:21.18 | ckknight_ | which both translate to English Tauren |
| 21:21.26 | ckknight_ | yea, clad's right |
| 21:21.27 | ckknight_ | you can |
| 21:21.30 | ckknight_ | no big deal |
| 21:21.31 | hyperChipmunk | it's unreadable at 1280x1024 |
| 21:21.35 | clad|gym | not that i dislike your idea |
| 21:21.39 | clad|gym | i think it makes sense, BUT |
| 21:21.41 | Thrae|Away | Mikma: :SetFrameLevel |
| 21:21.50 | clad|gym | you shoudln't be passing the TEXT to L, but some identifier. |
| 21:21.55 | Mikma | Thrae|Away: thanks, will check it now |
| 21:22.02 | ckknight_ | right. |
| 21:22.11 | ckknight_ | I just like to use the text as the identifier |
| 21:22.21 | clad|gym | for "Tauren" it makes sense |
| 21:22.21 | ckknight_ | well, english text |
| 21:22.35 | clad|gym | but "TT_MAX_BUTTON" is the tooltip for my max button |
| 21:22.50 | Mikma | Thrae|Away: doesn't work on this occasion i think since i wan't to prevent them from overlapping |
| 21:22.53 | ckknight_ | yea, and that's perfectly fine |
| 21:23.24 | Thrae|Away | Mikma: So make one have a higher level then the other. |
| 21:23.28 | Thrae|Away | Be right back. |
| 21:23.41 | *** part/#wowace Dulark (n=Dulark@207.250.72.2) |
| 21:23.58 | clad|gym | ok off to the gym with me. |
| 21:24.40 | Mikma | bah, they will still overlap eventho i would set them... |
| 21:24.44 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07FuBarPlugin-1.2 * r4151 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua: FuBarPlugin - fixed pluginDB |
| 21:27.49 | Amadeo | Was that it, ckknight? |
| 21:27.58 | Amadeo | oh woops |
| 21:28.01 | Amadeo | that said FuBar |
| 21:28.07 | mjc | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5344009891776329150&q=garr+tank |
| 21:28.30 | ckknight_ | testing Lexan vs. Witchhunt now |
| 21:29.24 | Amadeo | :D |
| 21:29.40 | haste_ | versus? |
| 21:29.56 | Wobin | how are they comparable? |
| 21:31.21 | ckknight_ | apparently they cause a bug or something |
| 21:31.46 | mjc | I dumped witchhunt for msbt =( |
| 21:31.55 | mjc | I like witchhunt a lot though I wish it did all the stuff msbt does :p |
| 21:33.10 | Mikma | can someone test the 1.04 Bartender in /branches? |
| 21:33.14 | Mikma | would really appreciate it :) |
| 21:33.35 | Mikma | (just remember to backup your SV first so you can try importing it too) |
| 21:36.42 | Neronix`afk | I honestly don't know how Lexan would cause that error |
| 21:37.05 | Neronix`afk | It doesn't even load or mixin AceDB |
| 21:37.15 | Amadeo | mjc: MSBT has Spell Alert built in? |
| 21:37.26 | mjc | Amadeo: seems to |
| 21:37.29 | mjc | at least I get +combat and such |
| 21:37.29 | Amadeo | hm |
| 21:37.40 | Amadeo | no not that! |
| 21:38.06 | Amadeo | Spell Alert tells you when an enemy player/mob is casting a spell and what spell it is |
| 21:38.12 | Amadeo | same thing WitchHunt does |
| 21:38.14 | mjc | I know what it is |
| 21:38.24 | mjc | I get a lot of spam when I'm on my rogue |
| 21:38.24 | mjc | lol |
| 21:39.39 | ckknight_ | hrm |
| 21:39.45 | ckknight_ | I have gotten to the root of the error |
| 21:39.48 | ckknight_ | fixing! |
| 21:40.27 | Neronix`afk | /dance |
| 21:40.44 | Neronix | What caused it? |
| 21:42.11 | ckknight_ | seems to be an issue with Classpool |
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| 21:43.32 | Wobin | mjc: hehe totally |
| 21:43.39 | mjc | check out the video |
| 21:43.44 | mjc | I posted earlier :p |
| 21:43.48 | mjc | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5344009891776329150&q=garr+tank |
| 21:43.51 | Wobin | I have a huge wall of text on my right with MSBT |
| 21:43.52 | mjc | pretty sick. |
| 21:44.07 | kergoth | mjc: i dont see msbt doing witchhunt functionality... maybe i'm missing something, but i dont see it tell me when a mob is starting to cast a heal on himself |
| 21:44.07 | Wobin | I can't watch googlevideo here =( |
| 21:44.12 | Neronix | How's this? http://www.amazon.co.uk:80/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009XEF8G/sr=1-68/qid=1152220863/ref=sr_1_68/026-6278166-0074817?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=electronics&v=glance |
| 21:44.14 | mjc | why not? plugin/ |
| 21:44.20 | Neronix | 3ms response time fast enough? |
| 21:44.38 | mjc | 8ms is plenty |
| 21:44.57 | pagefault | response time is so misleading anyway |
| 21:45.02 | pagefault | you want grey to grey response |
| 21:45.06 | pagefault | and no one ever lists that |
| 21:45.26 | gnorlish | neronix: do you want this monitor for all around use? or gaming? or what |
| 21:45.59 | Neronix | Should at least look nice for gaming |
| 21:46.15 | Neronix | I don't want to lose the image quality of this CRT |
| 21:46.35 | pagefault | go with a not cheap digital panel |
| 21:46.38 | pagefault | and it should look just as good |
| 21:46.49 | gnorlish | there are some recent reviews up at tomshardware.com and anandtech.com |
| 21:46.52 | ag`_ | what is MSBT? |
| 21:46.56 | gnorlish | which will give you some basis for decisions |
| 21:47.21 | Neronix | Ok, thanks |
| 21:47.29 | pagefault | you want one with a good exchange policy too |
| 21:47.37 | kergoth | ~msbt |
| 21:47.38 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, msbt is Mikk's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4482-1-mikscrollingbattletext.html |
| 21:47.54 | ag`_ | how do you add that info to purl? |
| 21:48.03 | Mikma | kergoth: can you test the new version of bartender in branches? |
| 21:48.38 | ag`_ | what's the difference between stuff in branches and trunk= |
| 21:49.10 | Mikma | trunk is horrible code, branches is upcoming version with nice features in it |
| 21:49.32 | Mikma | and branches version can apply the default layout to all uiscales :) |
| 21:49.55 | Mikma | that's why i wan't people to test it and inform me does it work properly on zoning, reload, login, etc |
| 21:50.29 | Amadeo | ckknight_: yay |
| 21:50.39 | kergoth | Mikma: k, will do |
| 21:50.46 | Mikma | kergoth: thanks :) |
| 21:51.15 | haste_ | Mikma, he asked in general |
| 21:52.24 | Mikma | haste_: whatwhatwhaaat? |
| 21:53.29 | haste_ | Mikma, about trunk and branches ;) |
| 21:53.39 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4152 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - uid assigned to each object now. |
| 21:53.46 | Mikma | haste_: hah kk |
| 21:53.58 | haste_ | but I'm going to bed now, good night |
| 21:54.03 | Mikma | ag`_: don't mind me i was explaining about bartender to you meh |
| 21:54.52 | ckknight_ | all fixed |
| 21:54.53 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r4153 10Ace2/ (AceAddon-5.lua AceConsole-6.lua AceOO-Classpool-3.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added tests. |
| 21:55.08 | ckknight_ | now Classpool tells mixins apart |
| 21:55.13 | ckknight_ | which was the issue |
| 21:55.51 | ckknight_ | it was using Lexan's mixins in WitchHunt, which didn't include AceDB |
| 21:56.18 | Amadeo | thanks ckknight_ :) |
| 21:56.24 | Neronix | Thanks |
| 21:56.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:56.53 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4154 10Lexan/Lexan.lua: Lexan - removed self.super.OnInitialize(self) |
| 21:57.08 | Neronix | Was going to go do that :P |
| 21:57.57 | ckknight | oh well |
| 21:58.27 | Neronix | And why did you have to call it with . notation? |
| 21:58.40 | Neronix | Wouldn't self.super:OnInitialize() be the same? |
| 21:58.45 | ckknight | not at all |
| 21:59.01 | ckknight | self.super:OnInitialize() == self.super.OnInitialize(self.super) |
| 21:59.10 | Industrial | http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7927/wowscrnshot0706062314413te.jpg |
| 21:59.10 | Neronix | Ah |
| 21:59.15 | hyperChipmunk | Elkano: you here? |
| 21:59.15 | Industrial | :) |
| 21:59.36 | Elkano | for a few more seconds... |
| 21:59.41 | Elkano | so make it a no |
| 21:59.48 | ag`_ | Mikma, what? :) |
| 21:59.53 | Elkano | back in 8-9h or so |
| 22:00.05 | hyperChipmunk | =( |
| 22:00.06 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 22:00.10 | Industrial | ag`_: those are my unitframes atm |
| 22:00.12 | Industrial | :) |
| 22:00.13 | Mikma | ag`_: look! an elephant is flying behind your window! |
| 22:00.56 | Wobin | mjc: The Great Firewall of China blocks googlevideo |
| 22:01.07 | ag`_ | Industrial, looks nice |
| 22:01.23 | Industrial | :) |
| 22:01.28 | mjc | Wobin: lame |
| 22:01.33 | Wobin | yup |
| 22:02.27 | ag`_ | anyway Industrial, I could add that layout in my ag_Themes.lua table ^^ |
| 22:03.07 | Gngsk | reminds me of statusbars |
| 22:03.29 | Industrial | ag`_: :) |
| 22:04.07 | ag`_ | are you using AceOO btw? |
| 22:04.39 | Industrial | no |
| 22:05.06 | Industrial | I tried but got in trouble soon, and wanted to get this done asap |
| 22:05.07 | ag`_ | oh, ok. Someone just told me you were making an Ace2 AceOO unit frame |
| 22:05.10 | Mikma | Industrial: starting to look nice |
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| 22:05.21 | Industrial | so i got it back to normal |
| 22:05.25 | Industrial | Mikma: :) |
| 22:05.27 | snurre | meh, i wonder wtf the green dragons have gone on my realm :( |
| 22:05.32 | snurre | havent spawned since last thursday *panics* |
| 22:05.40 | Industrial | next up on the list is name coloring and more flags like pvp and stuff |
| 22:05.43 | hyperChipmunk | back to sleep +) |
| 22:05.48 | ag`_ | anyway I am using AceOO for ag_UnitFrames |
| 22:05.49 | Industrial | nn hyperChipmunk |
| 22:05.51 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:05.56 | Industrial | ag`_: k |
| 22:06.33 | ag`_ | You can't assign events to objects though |
| 22:07.00 | ag`_ | not that it is that much of a problem |
| 22:08.03 | ckknight | yes you can |
| 22:08.08 | ckknight | why can't you? |
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| 22:10.23 | ckknight | http://qdb.us/30354 |
| 22:11.09 | Amadeo | brb |
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| 22:16.26 | ckknight | Amadeo's back. hoorays |
| 22:16.32 | Amadeo | :D |
| 22:16.35 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:21.33 | hyperChipmunk | "The fact that CTRA didn't offer this sort of functionality is not a weakness on Blizzard's part. As I said before, CTRA is old and inflexible. It is the C language prior to the budding C++ languages, to use a coding analogy." |
| 22:21.51 | mjc | acewardrobe not respecting /ace profile char really pisses me off |
| 22:21.52 | Wobin | *facepalm* |
| 22:22.17 | ckknight | C++ sucks. |
| 22:22.51 | Wobin | so does his analogies |
| 22:23.03 | ckknight | why said that? |
| 22:23.11 | ckknight | who* |
| 22:23.22 | ckknight | man, it's awesome when Chinese girls deliver food to me |
| 22:23.26 | gnorlish | his analogies are old and inflexible. they are the C language prior to the budding C++ languages, to use a coding analogy. |
| 22:23.30 | hyperChipmunk | the raidchannel thread guy |
| 22:23.41 | kergoth | the budding C++ languages? |
| 22:23.41 | kergoth | hahahah |
| 22:24.55 | ckknight | what's the link, again? |
| 22:25.09 | Wobin | he's conceded the argument btw |
| 22:25.16 | Wobin | rather suddenly, mind you =P |
| 22:25.18 | Wobin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=409984 |
| 22:25.21 | ckknight | btw, everyone FuBar 2 preliminarily works :-) |
| 22:25.40 | ckknight | it doesn't have FuBar-2.0 plugins yet |
| 22:25.43 | ckknight | but it supports 1.2 |
| 22:25.48 | hyperChipmunk | hook it up |
| 22:26.00 | Mikma | Wobin: lolled |
| 22:26.24 | Wobin | Mikma: =P |
| 22:26.41 | kergoth | i had no idea autobar can do poisons. bye bye, weaponrebuff |
| 22:26.58 | Mikma | kergoth: orlyowl? |
| 22:27.14 | Mikma | i really love autobar |
| 22:27.26 | Mikma | it's a must now and can't think how could i have played without it |
| 22:27.42 | Neronix | I switched to a bunch of pothead macros, but it's not the same |
| 22:27.45 | Mikma | bad thing about it is bandages should have selfcaston by default |
| 22:28.01 | Neronix | There needs to be a rewritten autobar, sans Saien |
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| 22:28.47 | Kebinusan | Mikma, they can |
| 22:28.54 | Kebinusan | just go into the autobar group for bandages |
| 22:28.59 | Kebinusan | there is a little self cast clicky there |
| 22:29.10 | Mikma | yeah i know but by default so i wouldn't have to do it |
| 22:29.20 | Mikma | since i always forget about it when updating it or so |
| 22:29.31 | Kebinusan | ah familiar with that |
| 22:29.38 | Mikma | and when i'm starting to use bandage i lose too much time on realizing "crap" |
| 22:29.46 | Kebinusan | Im just glad someone updated it so that the battleground potions work in all zones now |
| 22:30.04 | Mikma | yeah it has the better magebread in it too |
| 22:30.17 | Kebinusan | yeah our mages arent admitting they have that yet |
| 22:30.25 | Mikma | btw seems like us wow customization has turned into a battleground ;) |
| 22:30.44 | Kebinusan | over? |
| 22:30.49 | Mikma | let teh flamewar begin! |
| 22:31.27 | Kebinusan | oh fubar vs titan panel that could get juicy |
| 22:31.42 | Mikma | Industrial: btw remember to make a onclick function for clique ;) |
| 22:32.15 | Industrial | Mikma: yeah |
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| 22:32.21 | Industrial | Mikma: and mouseovers |
| 22:32.33 | Wobin | Kebinusan: really? =P |
| 22:32.46 | Mikma | Industrial: minor things, mouseover is important if you wan't ie. me to test it ;D |
| 22:33.25 | Mikma | s/mouseover/onclick/ |
| 22:33.40 | kergoth | Mikma: yeah, the poisons, you left click on the poison in the autobar to apply to mh, right click to apply to oh. works well |
| 22:34.04 | Mikma | kergoth: oh! gotta tell that to GF :) |
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| 22:34.16 | Mikma | she loves her rogue now heh |
| 22:34.34 | Wobin | Kebinusan: Not really a flamewar yet =P |
| 22:34.45 | ckknight | Kebinusan, FuBar vs. Titan? |
| 22:34.47 | Wobin | There haven't been any Titan proponents |
| 22:34.56 | hyperChipmunk | link? |
| 22:34.59 | ckknight | I need to post. |
| 22:35.04 | ckknight | seeing as I'm the author |
| 22:35.16 | Mikma | ckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=409949&p=1&tmp=1#post409949 |
| 22:35.32 | hyperChipmunk | actually, that's a good reason NOT to post |
| 22:35.42 | hyperChipmunk | you really oughtn't get yourself mixed up in that |
| 22:35.52 | hyperChipmunk | you'll have plenty to speak for you |
| 22:35.57 | Amadeo | My Warrior so far! http://ctprofiles.net/1980988 |
| 22:36.17 | Mikma | seems like most of the comments are about fubar being better than titan anyway |
| 22:36.38 | Neronix | Gah, my netvibes freezes opera for a few secs now :( |
| 22:36.52 | Mikma | soon someone posts "FuBar and Titan sucks ass, FuBar2 rocks" and everyone is "zomg wtf bbq?!?" |
| 22:37.13 | ag`_ | but is FuBar2 out? :o |
| 22:37.58 | Mikma | <0125> <@ckknight> btw, everyone FuBar 2 preliminarily works :-) |
| 22:38.06 | Tain | kergoth/mikma - I've been using WeaponRebuff(Fu) to do poisons. Similar idea, click and shift click for main/off, but from FuBar |
| 22:38.52 | ckknight | ag`_, it's in branch |
| 22:38.56 | Industrial | whats different on fubar 2? |
| 22:39.01 | ckknight | it uses Ace2. |
| 22:39.02 | ckknight | that's it. |
| 22:39.09 | Amadeo | I hit a 1275 MS on a Warlock today :D |
| 22:39.13 | Mikma | oh christ.. i had to listen for the nag about weaponrebuff not working for couple of days when patch came |
| 22:39.27 | ag`_ | is there any modules for it? |
| 22:39.34 | ckknight | the 1.2 plugins work for it |
| 22:39.59 | Mikma | well, how many 2.0 plugins there is? |
| 22:40.08 | ag`_ | So it just works as a drop in replacement for the old one, I guess |
| 22:40.39 | Wobin | Are there still 1.0 plugins floating about? |
| 22:40.57 | Neronix | I hope not |
| 22:41.19 | Neronix | and if there are, and aren't updated yet |
| 22:41.26 | Neronix | Then they probably won't be worth running |
| 22:41.37 | Neronix | 1.0 compatibility's goiong to be needless bloat imo |
| 22:41.39 | mjc | why the hell do my targets jump to friendlies every now and then |
| 22:42.06 | Wobin | goddamnit |
| 22:42.18 | Wobin | I'm so glad I'm going home on monday |
| 22:42.25 | Wobin | I'll have a proper oven |
| 22:42.39 | Neronix | And no great firewall to deal with? |
| 22:42.46 | Wobin | I want banana bread!! |
| 22:43.10 | Mikma | i'm getting bad wibes about Satrina.. |
| 22:43.23 | Mikma | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=404759&p=1&tmp=1#post404759 |
| 22:43.47 | Wobin | what sort of vibes? |
| 22:44.07 | Mikma | Wobin: gayish O_o |
| 22:44.13 | ckknight | I'm not supporting FuBar-1.0 addons |
| 22:44.20 | ckknight | just 1.2 and higher |
| 22:44.44 | Mikma | Wobin: Satrina's comment about Clique: " You are enabling the clickers =( " |
| 22:45.05 | ckknight | and note that 1.2 plugins are supported through a compatibility package |
| 22:45.34 | Wobin | Tain: heheh I noticed your comment about Satellite |
| 22:45.51 | Mikma | ~steveballmer ckknight |
| 22:45.53 | purl | ACTION bounces on ckknight screaming, "DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS!!" |
| 22:45.58 | ckknight | ... |
| 22:46.04 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:46.16 | Mikma | oh man i really wished for that to come :D |
| 22:46.51 | Neronix | We should have some kind of presence on WowWiki |
| 22:46.55 | ckknight | so we should probably write AceComm, then |
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| 22:47.05 | Neronix | Mod authors are always told to go there to l2code |
| 22:47.11 | Thrae | Mmm, UPS. |
| 22:47.11 | Mikma | Thrae: hi tooltipmonsterman |
| 22:47.20 | Neronix | And what're the only things mentioned there? Sea and its partners in crime |
| 22:47.52 | Mikma | ace of diamonds. DiamondComm |
| 22:48.44 | Mikma | Neronix: well, usually there's examples of api-functions but atleast for me they don't help that much |
| 22:49.00 | Mikma | i myself get much better help by looking other addons and figuring out how they are done |
| 22:49.10 | Wobin | Mikma: You should edit the wiki then |
| 22:49.22 | Neronix | Mikma: Look on the front page |
| 22:49.28 | Mikma | Wobin: yeah right.. that would be hot |
| 22:49.33 | ag`_ | Hilarious: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006300747,00.html |
| 22:50.28 | Wobin | "The US star had his arm in a brace after severing a tendon in a hotel accident. " |
| 22:50.32 | Mikma | ag`_: Server not found :( |
| 22:50.32 | Wobin | Those are -never- good =P |
| 22:50.44 | Amadeo | brb |
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| 22:52.16 | Mikma | clad has really put some effort on cliques portal on wowi :) |
| 22:52.59 | hyperChipmunk | AceComm? Call it TableTalk |
| 22:53.35 | ag`_ | Don't you know who I am? I'm the Hoff! |
| 22:53.45 | kergoth | woot, the version of witchhunt 2.0 in my addons dir puts its messages in the msbt notifications frame |
| 22:53.48 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:54.03 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 072.0 * r4155 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBar_Panel.lua): |
| 22:54.03 | CIA-7 | FuBar - self.cmd:msg -> self:Print |
| 22:54.03 | CIA-7 | added svn:keywords |
| 22:54.19 | Wobin | Radar |
| 22:54.23 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, maybe if we went with some professionalism it'd be better. |
| 22:54.36 | Industrial | hey ckknight you have an autoattack mod? didnt know |
| 22:54.44 | ckknight | yea, cause you lost yours |
| 22:54.50 | kergoth | Mikma: got an error about Frames being nil on login with bartender form the svn branch. i presume thats due to not resetting the db |
| 22:54.56 | Industrial | ckknight: :X |
| 22:54.58 | ckknight | so I made it built on Gratuity and BabbleLib |
| 22:55.05 | kergoth | ckknight: autoattack addon? does it avoid breaking sap and all? |
| 22:55.07 | Industrial | ckknight: is it fast? |
| 22:55.11 | kergoth | and not interfere with hunter autoshot/ |
| 22:55.14 | Industrial | as in you stop attacking when you gouge someone? |
| 22:55.17 | ckknight | kergoth, it should |
| 22:55.22 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:55.24 | Industrial | k |
| 22:55.26 | kergoth | yes, not breaking gouge would be a Good Thing |
| 22:55.29 | ckknight | try it out |
| 22:55.30 | Industrial | had that problem with idAutoAttack |
| 22:55.31 | ckknight | it should work |
| 22:55.35 | kergoth | i'm anxious to drop defendyourself, but none of the alternatives handle it all |
| 22:55.38 | kergoth | k |
| 22:55.38 | Industrial | it was too slow |
| 22:56.00 | Mikma | kergoth: propably, but it should reset the database.. or not if it already exists :D |
| 22:56.06 | ckknight | kergoth, try out AutoAttack |
| 22:56.11 | ckknight | it's on the svn |
| 22:56.16 | CIA-7 | 03kyahx * r4156 10Transcriptor/Core.lua: |
| 22:56.16 | CIA-7 | Transcriptor:01e |
| 22:56.16 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.43 | Mikma | kergoth: previous versions had database version check, this one doesn't have one yet and i don't think it will since the database layout is pretty nice now |
| 22:57.36 | kergoth | Mikma: well, i'd at least say check for the Frames member, and if it doesnt exist, reset .. forcing the user to remove a billion individual character specific sv files is a real pain |
| 22:57.36 | hyperChipmunk | WUT IS PROFESSIONALISM??? |
| 22:57.45 | kergoth | especially since not all users use linux and have 'find' at their fingertips |
| 22:58.35 | hyperChipmunk | mmm |
| 22:58.51 | Mikma | kergoth: hmm well yeah then i should hit some sort of databasecheck in |
| 22:58.53 | hyperChipmunk | and xargs |
| 22:58.55 | hyperChipmunk | mmmm |
| 22:59.10 | hyperChipmunk | what were we talking about? |
| 22:59.11 | Thrae | Mikma: An example of backwards compatible databases can be found in TinyTipUtil. |
| 22:59.27 | Thrae | AceDB also has similiar functions. |
| 22:59.40 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 22:59.41 | hyperChipmunk | I was going to write backwards compatibilty in the jump to Ace2 for bulkmail |
| 23:00.00 | Wobin | hm y'know, I wonder how I ever fell into Ace.... |
| 23:00.02 | ckknight | my solution: change the DB from FuBarDB to FuBar2DB |
| 23:00.03 | hyperChipmunk | but in the end I took the far superior route of telling the user, 'screw you, you have to start over' |
| 23:00.03 | ckknight | hehe |
| 23:00.07 | Mikma | Thrae: i'm not making it compatible, i'm making it to erase database when there's something big changed ;) |
| 23:00.12 | ckknight | Wobin, hrm? |
| 23:00.24 | hyperChipmunk | <---FuBar |
| 23:00.31 | Wobin | How I started with Ace, instead of like... Cosmos =P |
| 23:00.33 | Thrae | Mikma: Bah, there's a very easy way to make the database mostly backwards compatible without using up any extra resources |
| 23:00.36 | Wobin | I can't really recall |
| 23:00.42 | hyperChipmunk | oh, hm |
| 23:00.44 | Wobin | It was back when Rowne was about |
| 23:00.46 | hyperChipmunk | I remember hating ace |
| 23:00.53 | ckknight | I remember hating deps |
| 23:00.54 | hyperChipmunk | there was a mod that required it |
| 23:01.02 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:01.04 | hyperChipmunk | and I was like, 'screw you I'm not installing that crap' |
| 23:01.19 | ckknight | now we avoid bitches with Ace2 :-) |
| 23:01.37 | Wobin | They'll never appreciate it though =P |
| 23:01.42 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 23:01.46 | ckknight | but devs will |
| 23:01.59 | hyperChipmunk | oh, I know what it was |
| 23:02.09 | hyperChipmunk | when FlexBar went to the pooper |
| 23:02.10 | ckknight | and everyone should put |cff7fff7f -Ace2-|r at the end of their title |
| 23:02.14 | Wobin | It's painful trying to convince some of my friends to use certain ace mods |
| 23:02.19 | hyperChipmunk | and I switched to Visor |
| 23:02.32 | Wobin | That could have been it |
| 23:02.33 | hyperChipmunk | it was downhill from there |
| 23:02.33 | Wobin | Visor |
| 23:02.42 | Wobin | It was just ... so much better than flexbar |
| 23:02.48 | Wobin | no wait |
| 23:02.58 | Wobin | I was around before Visor =\ |
| 23:03.04 | hyperChipmunk | yea, and FlexBar let a patch go like a week before update |
| 23:04.19 | ckknight | I never used Visor |
| 23:04.30 | ckknight | I remember why I got into ace |
| 23:04.35 | ckknight | I liked the standardization |
| 23:04.40 | ckknight | all chat commands worked the same |
| 23:04.54 | ckknight | and I liked its OO approach |
| 23:04.59 | ckknight | so I coded BossPanel |
| 23:05.02 | ckknight | my first mod |
| 23:05.07 | ckknight | heheh |
| 23:05.17 | ckknight | kinda funny that something so ginormous was my first |
| 23:05.20 | hyperChipmunk | BossPanel was what actually brought me into Ace coding |
| 23:05.30 | hyperChipmunk | well, into this channel |
| 23:05.49 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:05.50 | hyperChipmunk | I didn't intend to do anything more than BatFu |
| 23:05.59 | hyperChipmunk | but channel and community kind of grows on you |
| 23:06.00 | Mikma | i think PeriodicTable + Mendeleev brought me |
| 23:06.19 | Thrae | OK, I got it. Instead of calling it "Luna" or "AceComm", we should call...Spy. |
| 23:06.26 | Wobin | hC: We're like a wasting disease |
| 23:06.28 | Thrae | s/call/call it/ |
| 23:06.34 | Wobin | hehe |
| 23:06.36 | ckknight | call iting |
| 23:06.47 | ag`_ | What is Spy? |
| 23:06.57 | Mikma | Thrae: "007" would be better ;) |
| 23:07.01 | Thrae | Spy is only one letter away from Sky. |
| 23:07.02 | Wobin | But Spy has bad connotations.... like hack. And that's -never- good |
| 23:07.20 | Wobin | ShoePhone |
| 23:07.36 | Thrae | Wobin: Tons of people use Thottbot ;) |
| 23:07.44 | ckknight | yea, hacks are never good |
| 23:08.05 | Wobin | Thrae: And I like cheese? |
| 23:08.10 | ckknight | when and if I ever code it (which'd be after FuBar), I'd call it AceComm |
| 23:08.15 | ag`_ | I approve of ShoePhone |
| 23:08.16 | ckknight | and just push it as part of Ace proper |
| 23:08.16 | Thrae | Ooo, how about "COSLIB", standing for "Cone Of Silence Lib" |
| 23:08.20 | Wobin | Isn't Clad looking into it? |
| 23:08.21 | Tain | I'd call it, "SeaSick" |
| 23:08.26 | ckknight | is he? |
| 23:08.27 | Wobin | Tain: rofl |
| 23:08.27 | snurre- | Bananaphone |
| 23:08.29 | Mikma | shoephone! Maxwell Smart! |
| 23:08.34 | *** join/#wowace Saroz (n=tomsomme@50C59393.flatrate.dk) |
| 23:08.34 | Wobin | Mikma: Yes! |
| 23:08.36 | ckknight | I haven't really heard anythng |
| 23:08.37 | Kebinusan | BigBrotherIsWatchingLib |
| 23:08.41 | cladhaire | what is clad looking into? |
| 23:08.41 | Wobin | We need more GetSmart love |
| 23:08.42 | ckknight | Bananaphone! |
| 23:08.48 | Mikma | ! |
| 23:08.49 | Wobin | ShoePhone! |
| 23:08.53 | ckknight | cladhaire, comm lib |
| 23:09.04 | ag`_ | **Bananaphone** |
| 23:09.09 | Mikma | how about... AllYourChatAreBelongToUs |
| 23:09.15 | ckknight | ring ring ring ring ring ring ring Bananaphone |
| 23:09.21 | Saroz | Is there a small alternative to the Castparty frames? |
| 23:09.29 | Mikma | WeAreTheAce,ResistanceIsFutile,YouWillBeAced |
| 23:09.33 | Thrae | Saroz: WatchDog + AceHeal |
| 23:09.49 | ckknight | or WatchDog + Clique |
| 23:10.01 | Mikma | but clique ain't spellselect addon |
| 23:10.03 | Wobin | Mikma: Can you imagine writing the function names for that? =P |
| 23:10.17 | Saroz | don't want spellselection :) |
| 23:10.19 | Mikma | Wobin: um, no. is that good? :D |
| 23:10.25 | *** part/#wowace Grumpey (n=Owner@dialup-4.152.210.44.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) |
| 23:10.27 | Mikma | Saroz: watchdog + clique |
| 23:10.36 | Thrae | cladhaire: Does Clique have mana conservation? |
| 23:10.39 | Wobin | function WeAreTheAce,ResistanceIsFutile,YouWillBeAced:MyfunctionName() |
| 23:11.07 | Kebinusan | WeAreControllingEverythingYouSeeAndHear |
| 23:11.07 | ckknight | Wobin, commas don't work |
| 23:11.19 | Wobin | ckknight: That's only a minor consideration |
| 23:11.19 | Mikma | Wobin: yeah, sounds.. lame. Bananaphone:ZomgLol() |
| 23:11.32 | ckknight | Wiretap |
| 23:11.35 | Kebinusan | AceFuComm-2.0 |
| 23:11.37 | Kebinusan | wiretap is good |
| 23:11.39 | Wobin | I'd have 'local yarr = WeAreTheAce,ResistanceIsFutile,YouWillBeAced' at the top anyway |
| 23:11.39 | Mikma | TwilightComm! |
| 23:11.47 | Wobin | Geico |
| 23:12.00 | Thrae | CommiComm |
| 23:12.00 | ckknight | Wiretap would be good, I think |
| 23:12.02 | ag`_ | Bananaphone isn't a joke |
| 23:12.18 | Wobin | Xylophone |
| 23:12.19 | kergoth | ugh |
| 23:12.20 | Mikma | x-files |
| 23:12.27 | Saroz | watchdog has built in clickasting it seems? |
| 23:12.28 | snurre- | mulder&scully |
| 23:12.34 | kergoth | msbt creates a table for each event its displaying! |
| 23:12.37 | Wobin | TheTruthIsOutThere? |
| 23:12.38 | kergoth | compost, anyone? |
| 23:12.44 | Mikma | murder/snully |
| 23:12.50 | Thrae | Saroz: Yes, but it'll use Clique instead if you have it. |
| 23:12.56 | Wobin | Moldy&Sulky |
| 23:13.09 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: post patch thx =D |
| 23:13.25 | Kebinusan | just name it RequiresCTRAidAssist |
| 23:13.26 | Saroz | ok, giving it a whirl.. castparty is one huge mofo |
| 23:13.27 | Thrae | kergoth: You should upload your modifications to MSBT to the SVN under branches ;) |
| 23:13.28 | Kebinusan | that should confuse people |
| 23:13.46 | Wobin | Actually, talk to Mikk |
| 23:13.46 | Mikma | kergoth: thrae has point, ace it! |
| 23:13.55 | Wobin | he seems fairly open to discussion |
| 23:14.05 | Kebinusan | modifications.. you mean deleting the options.lua file? |
| 23:15.39 | Wobin | oh wait |
| 23:15.41 | Wobin | Not Mikk |
| 23:15.42 | Wobin | Nik |
| 23:15.44 | Wobin | Mik |
| 23:15.47 | Wobin | my mistake |
| 23:15.55 | Thrae | Says "Mikk" on curse-gaming |
| 23:16.01 | Wobin | hm |
| 23:16.10 | Thrae | But he's not Mikk1 from wowi-lounge |
| 23:16.17 | Mikma | yeah i learned thattoday |
| 23:16.28 | ckknight | damn |
| 23:16.33 | Wobin | oh |
| 23:16.34 | ckknight | people need original names. |
| 23:16.43 | Thrae | Mikk1 would have MUCH tighter code ;) |
| 23:16.47 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 23:16.52 | Wobin | That's what I was thinking =) |
| 23:16.57 | ckknight | I'm pretty sure another ckknight won't join the addon community |
| 23:16.58 | Wobin | I mean... wowbench |
| 23:16.59 | Mikma | toight like a toiger? |
| 23:17.12 | Wobin | that's just scary |
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| 23:20.18 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4157 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Options.lua Sound.lua): |
| 23:20.18 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 23:20.18 | CIA-7 | - Changed how core manages module init, the register module event is no longer needed in modules. |
| 23:21.02 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 072.0 * r4158 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBar_Panel.lua): FuBar - panels now save |
| 23:21.52 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4159 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Messages.lua Messages.xml): |
| 23:21.52 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 23:21.53 | CIA-7 | - Converted sounds module to use AceEvents-2.0, AceLocale-2.0, AceModuleCore-2.0, and Piantchips-2.0 |
| 23:26.14 | hyperChipmunk | sounds? |
| 23:26.19 | hyperChipmunk | we have no sounds =P |
| 23:26.32 | kergoth | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4482-1-mikscrollingbattletext.html#comments |
| 23:26.35 | kergoth | hows that post look? |
| 23:27.12 | hyperChipmunk | hopefully like a pathc |
| 23:27.20 | hyperChipmunk | s/pathc/patch/ |
| 23:27.38 | kergoth | hehe, havent sent him any patches yet. still wading through his code |
| 23:27.52 | Wobin | diplomatic |
| 23:28.02 | Wobin | We should send in Industrial to be the 'Bad Cop' |
| 23:28.05 | hyperChipmunk | yea that's good |
| 23:28.06 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 23:28.23 | hyperChipmunk | indy will make him feel bad about his code, so he comes to us for help? |
| 23:28.35 | kergoth | hahah |
| 23:30.00 | Wobin | ooh |
| 23:30.05 | Wobin | latest versoin of HealersAssist |
| 23:30.13 | hyperChipmunk | will it heal my raid? |
| 23:30.26 | Wobin | oh |
| 23:30.36 | Wobin | not the latest version of healersassist =( |
| 23:30.39 | Wobin | hC: yes |
| 23:30.49 | Wobin | Well I use it to heal -my- raid =P |
| 23:30.59 | Mikma | kergoth: goodcall on asking him over :) |
| 23:31.06 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:31.23 | kergoth | no point forking unnecessarily. i'd rather see his skills improve |
| 23:31.33 | hyperChipmunk | yea, there's potential there |
| 23:31.58 | kergoth | kergoth being diplomatic. are pigs flying? |
| 23:31.59 | kergoth | ;) |
| 23:32.14 | hyperChipmunk | oink oink weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! |
| 23:32.16 | Wobin | *squeal* |
| 23:32.40 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:32.45 | ckknight | yes, good call, kergoth |
| 23:34.04 | Wobin | hehe |
| 23:34.13 | Wobin | although advertising the #wowi channel on Curse =) |
| 23:34.29 | ckknight | meh |
| 23:34.39 | ckknight | I'm in #curse-wow |
| 23:34.41 | ckknight | nothing happens there |
| 23:35.03 | ckknight | just a lot of joins/quits |
| 23:35.07 | ckknight | WoWI is a lot more active |
| 23:35.07 | Wobin | yeah |
| 23:35.14 | cladhaire | ... |
| 23:35.15 | Wobin | well WoWi is more focused on the developers |
| 23:35.36 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:35.53 | Tain | I curse wow all the time. |
| 23:35.56 | hyperChipmunk | omg can you imagine an irc channel full of curse's focus audience? |
| 23:36.07 | Wobin | ~emulate ckknight |
| 23:36.08 | purl | ACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 23:39.41 | cladhaire | you just convulsed purl out of the channel |
| 23:39.51 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 23:39.58 | Wobin | ~botsnack |
| 23:39.58 | purl | Wobin: aw, gee |
| 23:39.59 | hyperChipmunk | actually, that's just purl emulating ckknight |
| 23:40.21 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub 07Ace2 * r4160 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Messages.lua): |
| 23:40.21 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Ace2 Branch) |
| 23:40.21 | CIA-7 | - Added AceConsole-2.0 to core, Messages now uses it's Print to provide chat feedback |
| 23:40.36 | hyperChipmunk | has anyone used the new quicksend I put in BulkMail? |
| 23:41.04 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: no |
| 23:41.09 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: does BM work? |
| 23:41.23 | cladhaire | i had acegui isslues last time |
| 23:45.05 | Kaelten | hello |
| 23:45.10 | *** join/#wowace Kyahx (n=Kyahx@72.2.212.239) |
| 23:45.15 | Kyahx | SUCCESS! |
| 23:45.18 | Kyahx | ItemRackFu |
| 23:45.30 | Kyahx | =) |
| 23:45.34 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:46.56 | Kyahx | Thats been long overdue |
| 23:48.19 | Codayus | Oh, excellent. |
| 23:48.31 | Codayus | Where? |
| 23:48.40 | Kyahx | finishing it off ATM |
| 23:48.46 | ckknight | hey Kaelten |
| 23:48.46 | Codayus | Good, good. |
| 23:48.47 | Kyahx | will upload in like 10 minutes |
| 23:48.58 | ckknight | neat, Kyahx |
| 23:49.06 | ckknight | fun fact: it'll be obselete soon |
| 23:49.11 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:49.26 | Kyahx | psh |
| 23:49.40 | Kyahx | Im going to use old FuBar forever! |
| 23:49.56 | Kyahx | Btw, how is the moveing plugins from 1.2 -> 2.0 going to work? |
| 23:50.32 | Neronix`sleep | night |
| 23:52.11 | Tekcub | ckk, your AceDB example uses self.super.OnInitialize... |
| 23:53.16 | Wobin | wow |
| 23:53.23 | Wobin | /mydebug show PlowKing |
| 23:53.36 | Wobin | "Your UI is using more than 64M of memory -> Restart" |
| 23:54.08 | gnorlish | hooboy |
| 23:56.06 | ckknight | Tekcub, fix it? |
| 23:56.22 | Tekcub | :P you, I'm trying to learn off that example right now |
| 23:56.32 | ckknight | just remove that line |
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