| 00:00.09 | Industrial | I dont bring my cock when i visit people |
| 00:00.10 | Wobin | Cairenn's the MAN! |
| 00:00.18 | Tekcub | o/~ At first I was afriad, I was petrified o/~ |
| 00:00.30 | Tekcub | o/~ it was 13 inches long and nine inches wide o/~ |
| 00:00.37 | Wobin | Ow |
| 00:00.40 | hyperChipmunk | wha? |
| 00:00.42 | tragywydd | Industrial: best leave it at home, they make a lot of noise |
| 00:00.46 | Wobin | Anal tearing ftl =P |
| 00:00.52 | hyperChipmunk | why am I being coughed at? |
| 00:00.52 | Industrial | http://mamchenkov.net/wordpress/wp-content/cock.jpg |
| 00:00.53 | Industrial | yes |
| 00:00.58 | cladhaire | Cairenn: Sorry, should I not have said anything? |
| 00:01.09 | ckknight | hooray for trannies. |
| 00:01.30 | Wobin | Industrial: That's a pretty big cock |
| 00:01.40 | tragywydd | a big black cock |
| 00:01.58 | tragywydd | (zomg I don't even write UI mods why I am here?) |
| 00:02.08 | Industrial | Wobin: I give him a good workout |
| 00:02.09 | Wobin | guilt by association |
| 00:02.40 | Industrial | </random_blah> |
| 00:03.34 | *** part/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 00:03.43 | ckknight | maybe this is why people are wary of the ace community |
| 00:03.55 | tragywydd | because you talk about your penis size/ |
| 00:03.55 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1639.new#new |
| 00:03.58 | Industrial | what a topic |
| 00:04.00 | Industrial | :| |
| 00:04.50 | Industrial | ckknight: it prettymuch started with rowne not liking certain people, then wowi got its irc channel and it was already split up... dunno :s |
| 00:05.01 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:05.41 | Wobin | Aw, we scared Cair off =( |
| 00:05.51 | tragywydd | SHOCKING! |
| 00:09.09 | ckknight | um |
| 00:09.11 | ckknight | circle-jerk? |
| 00:09.17 | cladhaire | no thanks |
| 00:09.26 | tragywydd | i'm good |
| 00:09.28 | ckknight | I wanted to break the tension |
| 00:10.07 | Kaelten | err... you guys need therapy |
| 00:10.10 | Kaelten | :) |
| 00:10.14 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3987 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: Glory-2.0 - tweak |
| 00:10.19 | ckknight | Kaelten, :-P |
| 00:10.31 | ckknight | holy hell, close to 4000 |
| 00:10.38 | ag` | http://weallneedtherapy.ytmnd.com/ |
| 00:10.59 | tragywydd | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 00:11.02 | Kaelten | I will say this I'm going to be commiting all the damned time now. |
| 00:11.13 | tragywydd | that's the scariest ytmnd ever |
| 00:11.29 | ckknight | Kaelten, how come? |
| 00:11.33 | ckknight | cause you lost your work? |
| 00:11.37 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3988 10OneBag/OneBag.lua: OneBag - Optimized BuildFrame() |
| 00:11.49 | Kaelten | ya, I hadn't committed in some time. |
| 00:12.00 | Kaelten | lost hours of work on several different things |
| 00:12.37 | ckknight | yea, I commit all the time |
| 00:12.38 | ckknight | it's great |
| 00:12.45 | ckknight | you can always revert |
| 00:13.14 | ag` | real men doesn't take backups |
| 00:13.25 | tragywydd | or conjugate verbs? |
| 00:14.10 | ckknight | real men don't backup, they just have the whole world mirror their work for them |
| 00:14.12 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:14.18 | Kaelten | ya I had to convert back to hours ago |
| 00:14.27 | Kaelten | then I took a break |
| 00:16.57 | ag` | I like how they removed the stupid NPCs from AV |
| 00:21.31 | mjc | I like minimalist :) |
| 00:21.40 | mjc | ag`: made it hard to get rep for non-rogues :p |
| 00:22.25 | ag` | I'm a non-rogue :( |
| 00:23.03 | Industrial | http://break.com/index/deer_scare_prank.html |
| 00:25.40 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:27.04 | Industrial | http://break.com/index/ultimate_firework.html |
| 00:28.05 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3989 10OneBag/OneBag.lua: OneBag - Optimized OrganizeFrame() also combined Is<BagType> functions into one. |
| 00:36.41 | phyber | :p |
| 00:38.35 | ckknight | it's 2:40 PM here |
| 00:39.12 | Industrial | Am here |
| 00:39.13 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:39.28 | Industrial | phyber: haha |
| 00:39.46 | ag` | 2:40 AM here |
| 00:40.03 | mjc | 8:39pm |
| 00:40.03 | phyber | 01:40 |
| 00:40.32 | Industrial | phyber: uk, mjc: eh, india? :P |
| 00:40.40 | phyber | yup, uk. |
| 00:40.43 | mjc | US |
| 00:41.08 | ag` | hey, I could dig straight into the ground and end up at ckknight's place |
| 00:41.10 | Tekcub | HASTE! request for oRA |
| 00:41.17 | Tekcub | supress CTRA broadcast spam |
| 00:41.21 | ckknight | ag`, you're in Zimbabwe? |
| 00:41.28 | Tekcub | for the love of god, please... |
| 00:42.17 | ckknight | Zimbabwe is almost exactly on the opposite side of the world from Honolulu :-P |
| 00:42.28 | mjc | Tekcub: II hate people that think hitting it multiple times wll make it work better |
| 00:42.36 | ckknight | hit it! |
| 00:42.49 | Tekcub | yea they just spammed it like 8 times in 2 min |
| 00:42.49 | snurre | wee, 2.9k bloodthirst without deathwish and diamond flask |
| 00:42.49 | ckknight | ag`, you're probably in Europe, though |
| 00:42.56 | ag` | ckknight: dunno, It's 2:40 AM here and 2:40 PM at your place so.. :P |
| 00:43.21 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3990 10TouristLib/ (. Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua TouristLib.toc): TouristLib - now uses AceConsole (optional) for its chat command. |
| 00:46.01 | ckknight | Kaelten, OneBag's externals are funky |
| 00:49.04 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: omg |
| 00:49.08 | hyperChipmunk | you put in an ammo counter |
| 00:49.18 | hyperChipmunk | I love you, man |
| 00:52.50 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3991 10TouristLib/Tourist-2.0/Tourist-2.0.lua: Tourist - fix typo |
| 00:59.39 | Gngsk | speaking of ammo, is that guy around? |
| 01:01.12 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3992 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB - fixed funny thing. |
| 01:01.17 | ckknight | he's been around |
| 01:01.30 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:01.39 | ckknight | Ace2: currently known bugs (to me): 1 |
| 01:01.44 | Gngsk | well, I just tried his necro addon |
| 01:01.51 | Gngsk | was wondering easiest way to disable the spell timers |
| 01:02.06 | Gngsk | comment out the RegisterEvent and Hook lines? |
| 01:04.54 | Industrial | uh |
| 01:04.56 | Industrial | theres an option? |
| 01:05.13 | Tekcub | they're asking for a rebroadcast every 4 fucking minutes... |
| 01:05.47 | Gngsk | Industrial, is there? didn't notice one when I did /necro |
| 01:07.14 | Gngsk | nope, doesn't seem to be an option to disable the timers |
| 01:10.24 | Kaelten | Kaelten: what you mean? |
| 01:10.30 | Kaelten | err ckknight what you mean? |
| 01:10.45 | ckknight | I know of one bug in Ace2 |
| 01:10.48 | ckknight | only 1 |
| 01:10.51 | Kaelten | ? |
| 01:10.57 | ckknight | I'm fixing it now |
| 01:11.06 | ckknight | btw, fixed the upgrade error about AceDB requiring AceEvent |
| 01:11.17 | Kaelten | cool |
| 01:11.24 | ckknight | basically, the bug is that handlers for AceConsole don't upgrade |
| 01:11.41 | Kaelten | ah |
| 01:11.50 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: like the ammo counter? |
| 01:12.55 | Kaelten | ckknight: whats funky about onebags externals? |
| 01:13.06 | ckknight | unless... |
| 01:13.33 | ckknight | nvm |
| 01:13.40 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:13.45 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 01:16.10 | ckknight | my local version was messed up |
| 01:18.40 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: yes very much so =) |
| 01:19.14 | Kaelten | There are also soul slot counters and profession slot counters |
| 01:19.41 | hyperChipmunk | meh, I don't care about them |
| 01:19.57 | hyperChipmunk | don't waste your time |
| 01:20.01 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 01:21.37 | Kaelten | lol, they are already in |
| 01:22.10 | Kaelten | ckknight: in OnDisable do I need to do self.super.OnDisable(self)? |
| 01:22.22 | ckknight | it's not necessary, as nothing happens in the superclass |
| 01:22.40 | Kaelten | kk |
| 01:23.07 | ckknight | same with OnEnable |
| 01:23.15 | ckknight | even though the method exists :-P |
| 01:23.25 | Kaelten | heh |
| 01:23.29 | Kaelten | kk |
| 01:23.44 | Kaelten | jsut wanted to make sure that deregistring and dehooking would still happen |
| 01:24.11 | ckknight | yea, it does |
| 01:24.18 | ckknight | that's handled through AceDB |
| 01:24.29 | ckknight | things are unregistered, then OnDisable is called |
| 01:25.00 | Kaelten | kk |
| 01:25.07 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:25.23 | Kaelten | ? |
| 01:25.28 | ckknight | what'd be a good example of when you'd want to override when OnEnable gets called? |
| 01:25.49 | Kaelten | hrm. |
| 01:26.06 | Kaelten | I guess some addons might not want to be enabled until certain thigns get loaded |
| 01:26.22 | ckknight | hrm, guess so |
| 01:26.26 | Kaelten | I think cladhaire really pushed for that feature |
| 01:26.45 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:26.48 | ckknight | he did |
| 01:27.56 | Kaelten | it works though, and gives the flexability to control it |
| 01:28.04 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:28.18 | ckknight | but I'm just not sure whether said flexibility is worthwhile |
| 01:28.33 | Kaelten | I say we leave it be |
| 01:28.49 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:29.01 | ckknight | still want to hear clad's thoughts on it |
| 01:29.07 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-201264021785040724&q=muay+thai |
| 01:29.08 | ckknight | cladhaire, you here? |
| 01:29.11 | Industrial | cool footage |
| 01:29.54 | ckknight | I see it being worthwhile to have modules be run after their core |
| 01:30.03 | ckknight | but that can be handled in AceModuleCore |
| 01:30.17 | Neronix_ | Note to self: L2NotLetSleepWasteTime |
| 01:30.32 | Neronix_ | And I've just finished scrolling through the most intriguing convo ever O.o |
| 01:30.40 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3993 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua OneBag.xml): OneBag - Code cleanup. Now will go into standby without messing up the bag frames. A few more optimizations to standardize behavior. |
| 01:30.41 | ckknight | the sex one? |
| 01:30.52 | Neronix | Yeah, all 3 or 4 hours of it :P |
| 01:31.22 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:31.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 01:31.52 | gnorlish | kaelten: are you to the point now where your core code in onebag is clean and you're just squashing random bugs and adding options? |
| 01:31.55 | ckknight | hey Cairenn |
| 01:31.59 | Cairenn | hello |
| 01:32.05 | Kaelten | gnorlish: yes actually |
| 01:32.22 | Kaelten | about to start work on OneBank |
| 01:32.35 | Cairenn | I'm told it's supposedly safe to come back now, please don't feel you need to return to the previous conversation and prove me wrong |
| 01:33.03 | ckknight | actually Neronix brought it up just before you joined |
| 01:33.07 | Neronix | ~DrTran |
| 01:33.20 | Neronix | [02:38:19] [Neronix_] And I've just finished scrolling through the most intriguing convo ever O.o |
| 01:33.27 | Kaelten | well, lets keep the conversation clean an family friendly(at least remotely) |
| 01:33.51 | Neronix | ~whalenutshot ckknight |
| 01:33.59 | purl | ACTION smashes ckknight in the nuts with a huge, yet swift whale named Ricardo |
| 01:34.00 | ckknight | ... |
| 01:34.08 | ckknight | ~whaleparry Neronix |
| 01:34.14 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Neronix's attacks. |
| 01:34.53 | Kaelten | ok what options thats in OneBag don't need to be in OneBank? |
| 01:35.38 | Kaelten | I guess the ammo and soulshard counter doesn't need to be in OneBank |
| 01:36.34 | Neronix | ~whalenorris ckknight |
| 01:36.36 | purl | ACTION gets a whale with a facial hair issue named Reginald to roundhouse whack ckknight in the face with its tail |
| 01:37.54 | Wobin | Kaelten: Can you have the normal behavoiur for dragdrop in OneBag? |
| 01:38.13 | Wobin | Neronix: Reginald? Not Charles? |
| 01:38.23 | Kaelten | whatcha mean wobin? |
| 01:38.28 | Wobin | Hm |
| 01:38.46 | Wobin | atm, when I try to move stuff from one slot to another , I drag, then have to click on the destination slot |
| 01:38.53 | Wobin | instead of just letting go and it dropping in |
| 01:39.06 | Kaelten | talking about in OneBag? |
| 01:39.08 | Wobin | aye |
| 01:39.40 | Kaelten | I don't think the regular bags offer that functionality |
| 01:40.05 | Kaelten | oh actually they do |
| 01:40.14 | Kaelten | and in the current version of OneBag they do too |
| 01:40.48 | Kaelten | I didn't mess with the OnDrag handlers so they should behave as the standard bags do |
| 01:41.02 | Wobin | ah, k =) |
| 01:41.42 | Kaelten | now I did hijack the handlers on the actual bagbar but I changed the handling of those drastically anyway |
| 01:43.10 | ckknight | http://www.break.com/movies/alien_scare_scream.html |
| 01:43.12 | hyperChipmunk | yea they do |
| 01:43.18 | hyperChipmunk | that's what I wanted to ask you! |
| 01:43.22 | hyperChipmunk | now I remember =D |
| 01:43.25 | Kaelten | what? |
| 01:43.48 | hyperChipmunk | there was something I knew I wanted to ask you, but I forgot what it was |
| 01:43.53 | hyperChipmunk | it was the drag-drop thing |
| 01:43.58 | Kaelten | what about it? |
| 01:44.23 | hyperChipmunk | well, it was wrong; but now I see it is right |
| 01:44.25 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3994 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: |
| 01:44.25 | CIA-7 | AceConsole - keeps a registry, updates handlers now. |
| 01:44.25 | CIA-7 | More memory efficient handler. |
| 01:45.21 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: huh? |
| 01:45.30 | hyperChipmunk | you fixed it =) |
| 01:45.34 | hyperChipmunk | without me asking |
| 01:45.41 | Kaelten | oh, I must have did it on accident |
| 01:45.46 | hyperChipmunk | 8p |
| 01:46.32 | Kaelten | heh |
| 01:47.49 | Kaelten | no one wants to help me figure out what should be put into oneBank or not |
| 01:47.53 | Kaelten | :( |
| 01:48.09 | hyperChipmunk | I don't know what onebank is |
| 01:48.20 | hyperChipmunk | what are the options |
| 01:48.53 | Kaelten | well its OneBag for your bank |
| 01:49.06 | Kaelten | some things just don't seem to make sense in OneBank that do in OneBag |
| 01:49.23 | hyperChipmunk | everything but the ammo count, I'd think |
| 01:50.10 | Kaelten | hrm I'll dig at it |
| 01:52.32 | gnorlish | would an outdated module of oRA make me unable to see raid leader text |
| 01:53.07 | Codayus | Arg. What I wouldn't give for the ability to have my computer beep when a BG queue pops even when I'm tabbed out... |
| 01:53.19 | ckknight | me too |
| 01:53.34 | ckknight | it seriously sucks that it can't |
| 01:53.46 | hyperChipmunk | mine does |
| 01:53.46 | Codayus | That makes an AV and an AB I've missed today...sigh. |
| 01:53.56 | Codayus | And AV is horribly rare on my server. |
| 01:53.56 | hyperChipmunk | no matter what I do with it, I still get sound |
| 01:54.01 | Codayus | ..... |
| 01:54.02 | hyperChipmunk | the wow window, that is |
| 01:54.08 | ag` | Warcraft3 would maximize when it's matchmaking system found an opponent for you |
| 01:54.10 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, you're Linuxy |
| 01:54.31 | hyperChipmunk | I also have sound when wow isn't focused, so >8p |
| 01:55.34 | ag` | anyway I run my desktop at the same refresh rate and resolution as my desktop with maximize/minimize animation turned off, so I can alt-tab in/out instantly |
| 01:55.53 | Codayus | ag`: Ya, same. But...doesn't help too much for BGs. |
| 01:55.55 | ag` | didn't make sense |
| 01:56.13 | Codayus | Unless you tab back ocnstantly, in which case, why tab out to start with? |
| 01:56.41 | ag` | well, when you set it up like that so alt-tabbing is fast, checking often hurts a lot less |
| 01:57.02 | ag` | imho |
| 01:57.06 | Codayus | True... |
| 01:57.19 | ag` | that doesn't mean I don't think it is annoying |
| 01:57.21 | Codayus | But I think it moves it from the "impossible" to the "impractable"... |
| 01:57.27 | gnorlish | i use 2 monitors ;-| |
| 01:57.40 | ag` | yeah I use a laptop while I play :P |
| 01:57.51 | ag` | most of my BWL raids I'm just browsing |
| 01:57.54 | Codayus | I tab out to do some work, browse forums, code, etc...tabbing back every couple seconds to see if AV has popped destroys any productivity... |
| 01:58.13 | gnorlish | lets me control ventrilo very quickly |
| 01:58.15 | gnorlish | and check dkp |
| 01:58.16 | gnorlish | etc |
| 01:58.22 | gnorlish | (and watch movies) |
| 01:58.43 | Codayus | No room on my desk for a 2nd monitor sadly. |
| 01:58.48 | Codayus | Maybe I need a new desk... |
| 01:59.01 | Codayus | Actually, not really much space in this room for a bigger desk. |
| 01:59.08 | Codayus | I guess I'd need a new house. |
| 01:59.21 | Codayus | Buying a new house so I didn't miss AV queues MIGHT be ...hmm...excessive. |
| 01:59.21 | ag` | hmm, my desk isn't big but I would still have room for like 3 monitors |
| 01:59.27 | gnorlish | you use crt? |
| 01:59.40 | gnorlish | i jumped to lcd a few weeks ago |
| 01:59.42 | gnorlish | it's nice |
| 02:00.09 | ag` | yeah |
| 02:00.11 | Codayus | gnorlish: I have a 22" CRT. Very nice, extremely good refresh rate and colors, supports insanely high resolutions...takes up about TEN fricking times more space than it should. *sigh* |
| 02:00.29 | ag` | wow, 22" CRT |
| 02:00.37 | ag` | that must be a monster |
| 02:00.49 | Codayus | And because it's a very crappy desk, I actually couldn't fit two LCDs on it. |
| 02:00.53 | gnorlish | i got a really nice viewsonic 19" lcd that i shouldn't have bought |
| 02:01.03 | gnorlish | it's too much for what i use it for |
| 02:01.04 | ag` | hehe, buy a 15" LCD to browse on next to that 22" |
| 02:01.15 | gnorlish | so i ordered a 20.1" widescreen one that's cheaper |
| 02:01.22 | gnorlish | and now i have to get rid of the 19" one |
| 02:01.22 | Codayus | ag`: I'd have to ....I dunno. Hang it from the ceiling on a cable. oO |
| 02:01.34 | ag` | Mount it on the wall |
| 02:01.48 | Codayus | That could almost work.... |
| 02:01.51 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3995 10OneBank/ (27 files in 11 dirs): Initial Import |
| 02:02.05 | ag` | LCDs are easy to mount on the wall |
| 02:12.42 | gnorlish | if this were another channel |
| 02:12.52 | gnorlish | and you said mount in a sentence like that |
| 02:13.03 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3996 10OneBank/ (. libs/): OneBank - Setting stuff up. |
| 02:13.06 | gnorlish | the channel would explode |
| 02:14.08 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3997 10OneBank/libs/: OneBank - Added library externals |
| 02:14.25 | Wobin | gnorlish: You're saying that this channel out of all possible channels would be the least likely to deliberately misinterpret the verb 'mount'? =P |
| 02:14.52 | ckknight | hehe... sex |
| 02:15.10 | *** part/#wowace tragywydd (n=Tragywyd@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 02:15.10 | gnorlish | out of all my possible channels |
| 02:22.48 | Tekcub | my guild is poving that MT frames are NOT needed to raid :) |
| 02:22.53 | Tekcub | thank you broken CTRA |
| 02:23.40 | Tekcub | "making" :) |
| 02:24.02 | Tekcub | force assert too then |
| 02:24.18 | ckknight | none of Ace2's libs use assert |
| 02:24.24 | ckknight | I'm talking about the Ace*-2.0 libs |
| 02:24.34 | ckknight | like AceDB |
| 02:24.39 | ckknight | and AceOO |
| 02:29.24 | Tekcub | oh, I thought you meant any lib taht uses Ace2, not the Ace2 core |
| 02:29.40 | ckknight | is the svn down? |
| 02:29.57 | cladhaire | no |
| 02:33.00 | ckknight | okay, svn is working, just slow for me |
| 02:33.17 | ckknight | Tekcub, I can't force addons to not use error/assert |
| 02:33.33 | Tekcub | ya I didn't think so... |
| 02:33.33 | ckknight | well, actually I could with setfenv |
| 02:33.33 | ckknight | but I wouldn't want to |
| 02:33.37 | Tekcub | :P |
| 02:41.54 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3998 10Ace2/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Ace2 - all internal Ace2 libraries now use self:error instead of error. |
| 02:43.46 | Wobin | argh |
| 02:43.49 | Wobin | 34degrees |
| 02:43.52 | ckknight | CIA sucks :-P |
| 02:43.59 | ckknight | I committed a new Ace2 |
| 02:44.04 | ckknight | nvm, lag |
| 02:45.30 | cladhaire | http://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/log/ |
| 02:45.32 | cladhaire | dates dont work |
| 02:45.36 | cladhaire | i'm working on it. |
| 02:45.56 | cladhaire | meh |
| 02:46.52 | cladhaire | i'm going to camp rev 4000 |
| 02:47.17 | ckknight | http://www.break.com/movies/security_test.html |
| 02:47.20 | ckknight | hell no |
| 02:48.36 | Kaelten | oh awesome cladhaire didn't know that it was working now |
| 02:49.08 | cladhaire | it wasn't |
| 02:49.11 | cladhaire | until a few minutes ago |
| 02:49.14 | cladhaire | and its kinda not working |
| 02:49.17 | cladhaire | but *shrug* |
| 02:49.29 | cladhaire | the timestamp tests are all failing, and then timestamps dont work |
| 02:49.49 | Kaelten | well glad its back up |
| 02:49.50 | cladhaire | it'll due until dreamhost installs the module. |
| 02:50.11 | cladhaire | s/due/do/ |
| 02:53.23 | cladhaire | night all |
| 02:54.07 | ckknight | he's still camping 4000 |
| 02:54.07 | Kaelten | night clad |
| 02:54.08 | ckknight | I know it |
| 03:08.14 | CIA-7 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3999 10AceUtils/Misc-2.0/AceUtils-Misc-2.0.lua: AceUtils - Misc: Added note about MediaWiki comment formatting |
| 03:08.14 | CIA-7 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r4000 10AceUtils/Table-2.0/AceUtils-Table-2.0.lua: AceUtils - Maths: Added note about MediaWiki comment formatting |
| 03:08.18 | ckknight | ah, fuck |
| 03:08.23 | Neronix | /gquit |
| 03:08.25 | ckknight | those are fake, too |
| 03:08.28 | Neronix | /reroll |
| 03:08.29 | ckknight | dammit, man |
| 03:08.34 | ckknight | that's not code. |
| 03:08.42 | ckknight | failure. |
| 03:08.45 | Neronix | :< |
| 03:08.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Neronix] by ckknight |
| 03:08.55 | *** mode/#wowace [-v Neronix] by ckknight |
| 03:09.03 | ckknight | how do you like that? |
| 03:09.12 | ckknight | I stole your voice from you. |
| 03:09.27 | ckknight | btw, 0 errors when I upgrade all of ace2 |
| 03:10.42 | Kaelten | why the hell didn't blizzard keep things consistent when dealing with banks |
| 03:10.50 | Kaelten | mother fuckers.<Button name="OneBagItemButtonTemplate" inherits="ContainerFrameItemButtonTemplate" virtual="true"> |
| 03:10.50 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.50 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.50 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.52 | Kaelten | this:SetNormalTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\OneBag\\BagSlot") |
| 03:10.52 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.53 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.55 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.57 | Kaelten | whoops |
| 03:10.59 | Kaelten | sorry |
| 03:12.46 | Neronix`sleep | night |
| 03:12.54 | Kaelten | night neronix |
| 03:16.44 | Wobin | ~349/1141 |
| 03:16.45 | purl | 0.305872042068 |
| 03:17.11 | Wobin | hm |
| 03:17.22 | Wobin | 30% chance for a firey weapon proc |
| 03:27.20 | mjc | not bad |
| 03:29.44 | Wobin | granted, that's with two weapons enchanted |
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| 03:33.07 | Wobin | ckknight: Naitonal Security Video: That's so typically CNNNN =) |
| 03:33.14 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:34.28 | Wobin | I remember one 'survey' where they took a map with Australia marked as 'Iraq' and asked americans to place a flag in the 'Next Place America should Invade' =P |
| 03:35.17 | Wobin | And yes, most of the surveyed placed the flag on Australia =P |
| 03:35.26 | Wobin | Not even questioning the location =P |
| 03:35.56 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r4001 10Ace2/ (AceAddon-1.lua AceDB-standby-2.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - changed some tests |
| 03:36.06 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:36.11 | ckknight | that's great |
| 03:37.01 | Cairenn | and just how incredibly bad is that, that most of those surveyed didn't know Australia on a map :p |
| 03:37.01 | Wobin | ckknight: See the note from Devla on the boards? |
| 03:37.06 | ckknight | yes, Wobin |
| 03:37.07 | ckknight | I do. |
| 03:37.12 | Wobin | =) |
| 03:37.13 | Cairenn | s/bad/sad |
| 03:37.18 | ckknight | he sent me a note |
| 03:37.22 | ckknight | I will be making a proggie for it soon |
| 03:37.39 | Wobin | It's not like we're shaped like any other country =) |
| 03:37.57 | ckknight | if you were to name a country, I bet I could place it on a map |
| 03:38.17 | ckknight | at least in the right general area |
| 03:38.20 | Wobin | I have problems with the locations of a lot of the european countries |
| 03:38.26 | ckknight | I might flip Niger and Nigeria |
| 03:38.43 | Wobin | Ah, but can you sing the Nations of the World? =) |
| 03:38.45 | ckknight | Wobin, after playing enough Civ, I'm comfortable with Europe |
| 03:38.54 | ckknight | why would I? it's pointless |
| 03:39.02 | Wobin | heheh, but amusing |
| 03:41.25 | ckknight | okay! |
| 03:41.28 | ckknight | change to Ace2 |
| 03:41.34 | ckknight | which seems to be okay with everyone |
| 03:41.58 | ckknight | the superclass's OnInitialize will no longer need to be called to have OnEnable be called. |
| 03:42.32 | ckknight | also, if using AceModuleCore, modules' OnInitialize will definitely happen after their core's OnInitialzie |
| 03:42.41 | Wobin | Sounds good =) |
| 03:42.46 | ckknight | and their OnEnable will definitely happen after their core's OnEnable |
| 03:43.11 | Wobin | Was there a reason it wasn't so in the first place? (ie what sort of situation would it be where you -wouldn't- want to call init on the super first?) |
| 03:43.22 | ckknight | with a module system. |
| 03:43.49 | Wobin | how will they work now? |
| 03:44.11 | ckknight | if you use AceModuleCore, everything'll be peachy |
| 04:00.09 | ckknight | okay |
| 04:00.17 | ckknight | now it doesn't need AceModuleCore at all, even :-P |
| 04:00.25 | ckknight | any module system works now |
| 04:00.56 | Kaelten | ? |
| 04:01.27 | ckknight | Kaelten, clad was cool with the change, btw |
| 04:01.47 | Kaelten | which change? |
| 04:01.58 | ckknight | self.super.OnInitialize(self) going away |
| 04:02.22 | Kaelten | oh, cool |
| 04:03.14 | ckknight | and now that it works for modular systems, it's all cool |
| 04:03.34 | ckknight | basically, it is now guaranteed that if an addon is created first, it will be initted/enabled first |
| 04:04.54 | ckknight | also, this'll break current mods |
| 04:05.04 | ckknight | afaik, there aren't many mods that use Ace2 |
| 04:05.08 | ckknight | glad we're in beta. |
| 04:06.10 | Kaelten | why will it break current mods? |
| 04:06.13 | Kaelten | that doesn't make any sense |
| 04:13.06 | hyperChipmunk | oh good, you got rid of that super thingy |
| 04:13.14 | hyperChipmunk | that peeved me |
| 04:13.25 | hyperChipmunk | it didn't make any logical sense in the flow of programs |
| 04:14.06 | Kaelten | heh |
| 04:14.52 | hyperChipmunk | well it was difficult to tell what it does, if you're looking at the code |
| 04:15.09 | Kaelten | true |
| 04:15.19 | hyperChipmunk | you had to know 'inside seekrits' |
| 04:15.21 | Kaelten | bank bags's id is -1 correct? |
| 04:15.34 | hyperChipmunk | hm, I forget |
| 04:15.36 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 04:16.45 | hyperChipmunk | 0 |
| 04:17.35 | hyperChipmunk | for the first 24 |
| 04:17.46 | hyperChipmunk | the main frame |
| 04:18.10 | hyperChipmunk | then the bags are 5-10 |
| 04:20.01 | Kaelten | no 0 is the bag id for your backpack |
| 04:20.05 | Kaelten | can't be for the bankframe |
| 04:23.11 | ckknight | yea, I don't like the seekrits |
| 04:23.40 | hyperChipmunk | 0 is the default |
| 04:24.31 | Kaelten | ckknight: [23:24-628] ...terface\OneBag\libs\AceEvent\AceEvent-2.0.lua:93: attempt to call local `method' (a nil value) |
| 04:24.31 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.38 | ckknight | k |
| 04:25.08 | hyperChipmunk | all frames return 0 for GetID() if no id is set |
| 04:25.23 | ckknight | Kaelten, weird. |
| 04:25.26 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: ya but the bag# is actually -1 |
| 04:25.28 | ckknight | shouldn't do that |
| 04:25.41 | Kaelten | ckknight: I'm doing my standard updating a later loading version |
| 04:25.47 | ckknight | ah |
| 04:25.52 | hyperChipmunk | might be in the api |
| 04:26.01 | hyperChipmunk | but the frame itself has no id |
| 04:27.23 | Kaelten | actually that may be a bug on my part of calling something too early |
| 04:28.53 | Kaelten | ckknight: seems if you call member methods from within OnInitialize you can get that bug |
| 04:29.07 | ckknight | okay |
| 04:29.09 | ckknight | member methods? |
| 04:29.46 | Kaelten | ckknight: self:UpdateStuff() |
| 04:29.59 | ckknight | okay |
| 04:37.37 | Kaelten | ckknight: it seems if there is an error in an OnInitialize it gives you that line 93 error |
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| 04:45.51 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4002 10Ace2/ (AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua): AceAddon - :OnInitialize() no longer uses .super.OnInitialize(self) |
| 04:46.15 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r4003 10Ace2/ (7 files): Ace2/TestSuite - updated tests |
| 04:46.19 | ckknight | okay |
| 04:46.23 | ckknight | plz test kthx |
| 04:49.27 | ckknight | Kaelten, please give me the first error you get, it's much more useful |
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| 04:55.42 | Kaelten | calling a method, or indexing a nil doesn't seem to matter what it is |
| 05:02.43 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:02.54 | ckknight | but an error occurs, it's not really AceEvent's fault |
| 05:03.10 | ckknight | because the one error causes the other |
| 05:03.19 | ckknight | if the first doesn't exist, the second wouldn't occur |
| 05:03.25 | ckknight | so how do you account for that properly? |
| 05:05.03 | Kaelten | right |
| 05:05.08 | Kaelten | I don't know |
| 05:05.10 | Kaelten | its very odd |
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| 05:07.19 | mjc | what hapepend to acewardrobe?? |
| 05:07.28 | ckknight | um |
| 05:07.32 | ckknight | God smited it. |
| 05:10.13 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4004 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - fixed possible bug. |
| 05:10.16 | mjc | looks it |
| 05:10.36 | mjc | I'm tired of itemrack |
| 05:10.46 | mjc | it's my only non-ace'd mod |
| 05:10.50 | mjc | make it go away!! |
| 05:11.35 | Thrae|WoW | Itemrack is made by Gello, and he's good at what he does. |
| 05:11.52 | ckknight | Kaelten, try now ;-) |
| 05:12.02 | mjc | it uses an obscene amount of memory. |
| 05:12.07 | Thrae|WoW | If you really want, use Ace'd Wardrobe. |
| 05:12.36 | Thrae|WoW | It uses about 12KB/s when I swap equipment, that's nothnig. |
| 05:12.37 | mjc | that's what i was asking. it's not in the svn anymore (I thought it one was?) |
| 05:13.11 | Thrae|WoW | Try wowinterface |
| 05:13.40 | mjc | yep, I got thato ne |
| 05:13.50 | mjc | all the ace tocs need version bumping again btw |
| 05:14.24 | Kaelten | ckknight: ok I just get the error messages I should now |
| 05:14.34 | ckknight | it was a loop issue |
| 05:14.36 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:14.38 | Kaelten | although I think we should put OnInitialize's prototype back in. |
| 05:14.41 | ckknight | possibly also a gc issue |
| 05:14.43 | ckknight | why? |
| 05:14.47 | ckknight | I don't think so. |
| 05:14.48 | mjc | FuBar_PetitionFu is kind of useless |
| 05:14.50 | ckknight | it does nothing |
| 05:14.58 | Kaelten | simply to avoid breaking what few addons are out there that uses it |
| 05:15.04 | Cairenn | mjc: in your opinion |
| 05:15.17 | ckknight | Kaelten, there are so few addons that use it |
| 05:15.28 | ckknight | frankly, I'd rather get it out sooner than later |
| 05:15.31 | Kaelten | true, but someone just pings the svn for an update sundly their addons break |
| 05:15.44 | Kaelten | who's fault do they think it is? |
| 05:15.46 | ckknight | what if I make it spam a message at the user? |
| 05:15.51 | ckknight | telling the issue |
| 05:15.56 | ckknight | but letting it pass, still |
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| 05:15.59 | ckknight | so no error |
| 05:16.07 | mjc | Cairenn: there's micromenufu |
| 05:16.08 | Kaelten | how about a debug message if debug is loaded |
| 05:16.22 | mjc | Cairenn: uses about the same amount of memory |
| 05:16.24 | Kaelten | so the dev will see it while he's testing |
| 05:16.25 | Cairenn | mjc: and if you don't want the entire menu? |
| 05:16.36 | Thrae|WoW | Reported! uses almost no memory ;) |
| 05:16.37 | mjc | well then micromenu should have a way to turn off each one |
| 05:16.43 | mjc | and I think it does |
| 05:17.12 | Cairenn | but why use a mod that you turn most of it off, when you can use a mod that only has the one thing you want? |
| 05:17.23 | Cairenn | as I said, *in your opinion* it is useless |
| 05:17.33 | ckknight | Kaelten, how bout we leave it in and then take it out at a set time |
| 05:17.42 | mjc | to minimize clutter in the svn repo :p |
| 05:18.07 | Kaelten | Agreed. Although I'd still do the debug statement in the mean time |
| 05:18.10 | Cairenn | well if that is the case, then you also need to remove .............. |
| 05:18.29 | Cairenn | "because there are other mods out there that do basically the exact same thing" |
| 05:18.53 | Cairenn | sorry, no offense to you personally, but your reasoning is faulty |
| 05:19.13 | mjc | well |
| 05:19.13 | hyperChipmunk | who needs addons at all! |
| 05:19.21 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: indeed |
| 05:19.26 | mjc | why do we have fubar_experienced vs experiencedfu |
| 05:19.34 | Thrae|WoW | I play with the UI turned off. All you people are just cheaters. |
| 05:19.42 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: that's really keep the svn repo clutter-less, wouldn't it? |
| 05:19.43 | hyperChipmunk | /script does so much more and uses EVEN LESS memory |
| 05:19.49 | mjc | and duratek vs. durabilityfu |
| 05:20.25 | hyperChipmunk | I actually play WoW in a console |
| 05:20.25 | Thrae|WoW | mjc, it's because ckknight doesn't make all FuBar plugins. |
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| 05:20.48 | mjc | so why not let the author that already has access to wowace svn simply patch experiencefu with the features he wants |
| 05:20.48 | Thrae|WoW | Tekkub made Duratek, whereas someone else made DurabilityFu (porting it from TitanPanel). |
| 05:20.58 | gnorlish | thrae |
| 05:21.04 | gnorlish | i demand more tooltip releases |
| 05:21.07 | hyperChipmunk | DIRE MAUL WEST -- You enter a corridor of marble. There are gold elven statues about you and some evil-looking trees are glaring in your direction. |
| 05:21.09 | ckknight | and I merged tek's stuff into DurabilityFu |
| 05:21.12 | hyperChipmunk | >>PUNT GNOME |
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| 05:21.41 | Thrae|WoW | gnorlish: I've been working on TinyTip for like a week straight, gimmie a break :D |
| 05:21.52 | mjc | ckknight: so duratek is unmaintained? |
| 05:21.59 | ckknight | yes |
| 05:22.05 | mjc | so blow it away :p |
| 05:22.09 | hyperChipmunk | uh |
| 05:22.18 | ckknight | frankly, I'd be fine if someone updated my plugins |
| 05:22.18 | hyperChipmunk | that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard |
| 05:22.35 | mjc | put it somewhere outside of the main repo |
| 05:22.55 | hyperChipmunk | I have 'unmaintained' mods that I've written that I've used every day for the last 8 months |
| 05:23.20 | Thrae|WoW | mjc: When you're trying to adapt other people's code, many times you'll find it would have been easier to start from stratch if you know what you're doing. |
| 05:23.51 | mjc | I dunno it looks pretty haphazard.... imagine throwing all of the mods in svn in at once |
| 05:23.52 | Thrae|WoW | Not better for the community, but easier on yourself. |
| 05:23.57 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4005 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - added default :OnInitialize method |
| 05:24.10 | Thrae|WoW | Bah, the entir SVN takes up about 15MB. |
| 05:24.31 | ckknight | hehe |
| 05:24.50 | mjc | Thrae|WoW: I'm just thinking it would be best to try not to duplcate things |
| 05:25.14 | hyperChipmunk | Ace isn't a compilation |
| 05:25.16 | ckknight | Kaelten, it prints a message, with the line number, and says it'll stop working on July 11 |
| 05:25.23 | hyperChipmunk | it's a community |
| 05:25.39 | ckknight | with your logic, FuBar wouldn't exist. |
| 05:25.42 | Thrae|WoW | You are correct there mjc, however, we're not dealing with people who code these addons for their job, we're talking about people that do it as a hobby and out of the goodness of their hearts. |
| 05:25.51 | Kaelten | eh, that works |
| 05:26.04 | hyperChipmunk | there's no call to 'cull' the SVN |
| 05:26.06 | ckknight | I code because it satisfies my ego |
| 05:26.18 | Thrae|WoW | If someone feels like they can only use maybe 30% of the code in an addon, they might as well start over. |
| 05:26.30 | ckknight | guess what percentage I used from FuBAr |
| 05:26.32 | ckknight | er |
| 05:26.34 | ckknight | Titan* |
| 05:26.35 | hyperChipmunk | for one thing, it's a wealth of ideas and coding techniques |
| 05:26.48 | hyperChipmunk | everyone has a different style |
| 05:26.53 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:27.12 | hyperChipmunk | and when I'm trying to do something that I'm not sure how to implement, I just search the svn for something that seems similar, and i'm rarely disappointed |
| 05:27.27 | hyperChipmunk | always come out with something learned |
| 05:27.39 | Thrae|WoW | I always look to see if an addon has been made before I make a serious effort. |
| 05:28.08 | ckknight | I will say one thing |
| 05:28.10 | hyperChipmunk | BatFu started with TitanBG |
| 05:28.16 | Thrae|WoW | If I think I can do a better job then the original author optimizing, then I might start mostly from stratch. |
| 05:28.29 | ckknight | had Titan been properly documented, it's much more likely that I would've just hacked on it |
| 05:28.37 | ckknight | but because there was no good documentation, I couldn't |
| 05:28.51 | hyperChipmunk | and I realized it was so crappy that it was unsalvageable, so I ended up going from scratch |
| 05:29.06 | ckknight | note: my stuff is all properly documented, because it is very important |
| 05:29.29 | Thrae|WoW | I like tha comments. |
| 05:31.49 | ckknight | I hardly ever comment |
| 05:31.58 | ckknight | I just write docs instead :-P |
| 05:32.10 | ckknight | in overly complex structures, I'll commment |
| 05:32.11 | ckknight | comment* |
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| 05:32.46 | Thrae|WoW | Yeah but you've mainly put out APIs. |
| 05:33.03 | Thrae|WoW | Docs would make things more complicated for a simple addon ;) |
| 05:33.12 | hyperChipmunk | depends |
| 05:33.44 | hyperChipmunk | FuBar and Ace and Titan are written for other programmers |
| 05:34.00 | ckknight | right |
| 05:34.29 | ckknight | and I document FuBar pretty well |
| 05:34.29 | ckknight | at least for the plugin writers viewpoint |
| 05:34.54 | hyperChipmunk | Ratbert_CP: indeed |
| 05:35.19 | Ratbert_CP | Of course, my wife is not to hear a word of it... |
| 05:35.36 | hyperChipmunk | naturally |
| 05:35.54 | hyperChipmunk | I keep my AddOn Bimbos from my girlfriend too |
| 05:36.00 | Ratbert_CP | And the kids will have to be kept out of the international press... |
| 05:36.12 | mjc | it doedns't save forms |
| 05:36.21 | mjc | it always overwrites the new form with the old |
| 05:36.27 | mjc | and when I tell it to put on the old |
| 05:36.32 | hyperChipmunk | hm, oUF go boom |
| 05:36.34 | mjc | it sayys tere are none at all |
| 05:37.06 | ckknight | I think we all want that |
| 05:37.19 | ckknight | well, except apparently clad and Tek |
| 05:37.31 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:38.17 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4006 10OneBank/ (OneBank.lua OneBank.toc OneBank.xml): OneBank - Incremental backup. |
| 05:39.08 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4007 10/branches/FuBar/ (. 2.0/): FuBar - created 2.0 branch |
| 05:40.55 | Kaelten | gods I'm going to end up going back and turning OneBag/OneBank into a AceModuleCore application. |
| 05:41.02 | Kaelten | alot of the code is identical or can be |
| 05:41.20 | hyperChipmunk | =O |
| 05:41.22 | ckknight | hehe, fun |
| 05:41.33 | ckknight | just have OneCore |
| 05:41.34 | hyperChipmunk | but isn't that the point of having that? |
| 05:41.45 | ckknight | and have OneBag and OneBank register from that |
| 05:41.51 | ckknight | I'd say |
| 05:42.00 | Kaelten | thats what I'm going to do |
| 05:42.08 | Kaelten | hell I could even make OneBag and OneBank LoD |
| 05:42.17 | ckknight | maybe |
| 05:42.27 | ckknight | nah |
| 05:42.29 | ckknight | make OneBank yes |
| 05:42.32 | ckknight | OneBag no |
| 05:42.36 | ckknight | I'd say |
| 05:42.42 | Kaelten | ya probably |
| 05:42.48 | ckknight | have OneBag be part of OneBagCore |
| 05:42.56 | ckknight | and then have OneBank be LoD |
| 05:43.04 | ckknight | so that when you get to a bank, it'd load |
| 05:43.09 | ckknight | that'd be pimp and you know it |
| 05:43.54 | Kaelten | hrm maybe |
| 05:44.37 | Kaelten | One thing I'm trying tot hink about is should I offer away from bank viewing, and viewing of alts |
| 05:45.26 | Cairenn | yes |
| 05:45.27 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:45.27 | ckknight | but on-demand |
| 05:45.57 | Kaelten | hrm, maybe I'll look into that after I get done with OneBank |
| 05:46.38 | Kaelten | heh, even a large portion of the console array can be identical |
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| 05:52.34 | asxu | anyone play on dethecus? |
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| 05:53.49 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4008 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - fixed possible bug. |
| 05:55.01 | ckknight | I know what I need to do |
| 05:55.05 | ckknight | hack up Dewdrop-2.0 |
| 05:56.36 | asxu | just curious, is it possible to make fubar see-through? so everything can be seen on it, but there is no background? |
| 05:56.52 | hyperChipmunk | right click, transparency |
| 05:57.07 | hyperChipmunk | it's labelled transparency, but it's actually opacity. 0% is fully transparent |
| 05:57.17 | asxu | great, thanks for your help |
| 05:57.45 | hyperChipmunk | certainly |
| 05:57.59 | asxu | also, is there an ace'd addon like clearfont? |
| 05:58.21 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 05:59.09 | ckknight | there doesn't need to be, honestly |
| 05:59.15 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 05:59.21 | hyperChipmunk | ClearFont is pretty lean as it is |
| 05:59.33 | hyperChipmunk | acing it would just add a framework that really doesn't need to be there |
| 05:59.37 | gnorlish | i forget what life was like before clearfont |
| 05:59.42 | gnorlish | it was... blurrier |
| 06:00.56 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, actually with Ace2 it wouldn't really be too bad now, since it's embedded |
| 06:01.09 | ckknight | but it still isn't needed :-P |
| 06:01.15 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but all it does is redefine fontstring templates, no? |
| 06:02.16 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4009 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop-2.0 - removed cancelFunc and opacityFunc. now all handed with swatchFunc, which takes r,g,b,a. |
| 06:02.43 | ckknight | pretty much |
| 06:02.52 | ckknight | it also overrides addons fonts |
| 06:03.47 | Kaelten | gnight guys |
| 06:03.51 | ckknight | g'night |
| 06:04.00 | Kaelten | I'm going to work more on the world of banking tommorow |
| 06:04.17 | Cairenn | night Kaelten |
| 06:04.32 | Codayus | hmmm |
| 06:04.57 | hyperChipmunk | sweet dreams |
| 06:05.00 | Codayus | Interface\AddOns\oUF\AceAddon\AceAddon-2.0.lua:288: bad argument #3 to 'gsub` (string or function expected) |
| 06:05.35 | ckknight | working. |
| 06:06.05 | ckknight | oh right |
| 06:06.06 | ckknight | "my bad" |
| 06:06.31 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4010 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - fix line 288 bug. |
| 06:07.25 | Codayus | Heh, I love the bug fixing process around here. |
| 06:07.46 | ckknight | how so? |
| 06:08.03 | Codayus | Fixed, btw. |
| 06:08.15 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight writes something, doesn't test it at all, someone gripes, he fixes it |
| 06:08.19 | hyperChipmunk | the circle of life continues |
| 06:08.19 | Codayus | Most projects don't have 2 minute turnaround times, in my experience it. |
| 06:08.35 | ckknight | it works, though |
| 06:08.42 | gnorlish | E/ |
| 06:08.42 | ckknight | I code, others test |
| 06:09.05 | ckknight | I do unit testing and such |
| 06:09.11 | Codayus | That sounds like a perfectly sensible approach. |
| 06:09.13 | ckknight | but I don't waste time testing in WoW |
| 06:09.23 | ckknight | least not initially |
| 06:09.38 | ckknight | and as long as I fix the bugs ASAP, people tend to be cool with it |
| 06:09.43 | Codayus | If I didn't want to test stuff, I would be running stable releases from WoWI. :-) |
| 06:09.53 | Codayus | I just like how fast the fixes follow the testing. |
| 06:09.59 | ckknight | hehe, yep |
| 06:10.07 | ckknight | in turn, you get to see bleeding-edge stuff |
| 06:10.09 | hyperChipmunk | if they didn't |
| 06:10.21 | hyperChipmunk | it'd take 2 years for him to write something |
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| 06:10.29 | hyperChipmunk | if every bugfix took a day |
| 06:10.36 | ckknight | oh, right |
| 06:10.41 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 06:10.46 | Codayus | I like bleeding edge stuff. |
| 06:10.53 | ckknight | actually, it'd be more like, omg, it only took a week to write |
| 06:11.00 | ckknight | first person who uses it. failure |
| 06:11.10 | ckknight | :-P |
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| 06:16.45 | ckknight | glad that's not the case |
| 06:16.45 | ckknight | the current system works reasonably well |
| 06:17.26 | asxu | can anyone possibly identify the font used in this screenshot? http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8427/ui20zg.jpg |
| 06:17.34 | asxu | in the chat window. |
| 06:18.42 | hyperChipmunk | isn't that the font the game uses for numbers? |
| 06:18.45 | kergoth | stupid people need to fucking die |
| 06:18.56 | Cairenn | uh oh |
| 06:19.23 | kergoth | stupid bitch in the parking lot where we were seeing fireworks parked in a no parking spot at the end of a lane, making it so you can only drive in one direction down that row. naturally, i was turning in the direction she blocked |
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| 06:19.35 | kergoth | and traffic flow was so fucked up that i ended up stuck there for an _hour_ because of her |
| 06:19.39 | Cairenn | ugh |
| 06:19.42 | hyperChipmunk | gg |
| 06:20.08 | kergoth | i said "learn how to fucking park, bitch" |
| 06:20.10 | kergoth | she called me a punk |
| 06:20.14 | kergoth | as if that's an insult |
| 06:20.16 | kergoth | i was amused |
| 06:20.18 | asxu | lol. |
| 06:20.46 | kergoth | </rant> |
| 06:21.03 | hyperChipmunk | tell us how you really feel |
| 06:21.13 | Cairenn | *chuckle* |
| 06:21.24 | hyperChipmunk | go ahead, don't hold back |
| 06:21.33 | kergoth | hahah |
| 06:21.47 | kergoth | "hold back". i know not what this holding back is |
| 06:21.47 | kergoth | :P |
| 06:21.56 | ckknight | it's not your fault, kergoth |
| 06:21.58 | ckknight | it's not your fault |
| 06:22.21 | kergoth | i wouldve said worse to her, but her kids were there |
| 06:22.40 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 06:22.42 | hyperChipmunk | . |
| 06:22.53 | Cairenn | you said that with kids there? |
| 06:22.58 | hyperChipmunk | kerg =\ |
| 06:23.05 | Elkano | did anyone of you try EBB's svn version? |
| 06:23.09 | ckknight | gonna add sliderMin and sliderMax and sliderIsPercent to Dewdrop :-P |
| 06:23.10 | hyperChipmunk | you're joking, right |
| 06:23.11 | kergoth | yep, i did. with a mom like that, i'm sure they've heard worse |
| 06:23.14 | hyperChipmunk | Elkano: it's beauty |
| 06:23.15 | kergoth | anyway, how was everyone elses 4th? |
| 06:23.24 | kergoth | the fireworks here were quite good, i was pleasantly surprised |
| 06:23.35 | Cairenn | please tell me they weren't KIDS ... like, teens or something, right? |
| 06:23.48 | Elkano | hC, question was most likely: noticed any bugs? |
| 06:23.59 | kergoth | youngest was probably 10, but she didnt just call me a punk, she told me to "go eat shit and die, punk" |
| 06:24.04 | kergoth | so i felt better, they've definately heard worse |
| 06:24.07 | kergoth | :P |
| 06:24.08 | Cairenn | ah, okay |
| 06:24.43 | hyperChipmunk | no, but I did add a line to clamp it to screen |
| 06:24.47 | ckknight | pfft |
| 06:24.49 | hyperChipmunk | in my local copy |
| 06:24.52 | ckknight | you don't die from eating shit |
| 06:24.56 | ckknight | you might get sick |
| 06:25.01 | Cairenn | lol ckknight |
| 06:25.06 | kergoth | hahah |
| 06:25.19 | Elkano | hmmm... good point hC, which one? |
| 06:25.27 | kergoth | still, you could eat shit, then die of something unrelated |
| 06:25.43 | hyperChipmunk | what do you mean, which one? |
| 06:25.45 | kergoth | so 'eat shit and die' would still have held true |
| 06:25.54 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I added it before you svn'ed it |
| 06:26.06 | hyperChipmunk | it's in my miscellaneous stuff addon |
| 06:26.18 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:26.53 | Elkano | <Frame clampToScreen="true"> ? |
| 06:27.19 | kergoth | Elkano, your buff bar is gorgeous. i love it. nice work :) |
| 06:27.28 | Elkano | :) |
| 06:27.34 | hyperChipmunk | not sure how to do it in the declaration |
| 06:28.49 | hyperChipmunk | and yea |
| 06:28.54 | hyperChipmunk | that is seriously slick |
| 06:31.03 | CIA-7 | 03kyahx * r4011 10Transcriptor/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 06:31.03 | CIA-7 | Transcriptor:01d |
| 06:31.03 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.03 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.06 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:31.09 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:35.42 | CIA-7 | 03elkano * r4012 10ElkBuffBar/ (ElkBuffBar.lua ElkBuffBar.xml): |
| 06:35.42 | CIA-7 | ElkBuffBar: |
| 06:35.42 | CIA-7 | - hopefully fixed possible nil error in 475 |
| 06:35.42 | CIA-7 | - added clampToScreen |
| 06:35.42 | CIA-7 | - added option to toggle type colored debuff bars |
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| 06:45.13 | MoonWolf | heeelloooo world |
| 06:45.22 | kergoth | hey moon |
| 06:47.53 | asxu | is there a guide / wiki to using svn? i have no idea how to browse it. |
| 06:47.58 | asxu | i'm just getting confused. |
| 06:48.43 | ckknight | browse to http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk |
| 06:48.57 | ckknight | everything is pretty much just dumped in there |
| 06:49.11 | asxu | ok |
| 06:49.14 | asxu | latest versions? |
| 06:49.31 | ckknight | yep |
| 06:49.40 | asxu | is there a client or something i can use? |
| 06:49.43 | ckknight | SVN is where developers dump their latest work |
| 06:49.55 | ckknight | when we release, we take a snapshot of the SVN |
| 06:50.01 | asxu | ok. |
| 06:50.02 | ckknight | you on Windows? |
| 06:50.07 | asxu | yes |
| 06:50.12 | ckknight | TortoiseSVN |
| 06:50.17 | asxu | mac soon |
| 06:50.18 | asxu | ;) |
| 06:50.32 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:51.28 | asxu | i just prefer the simplicity of them. |
| 06:51.36 | asxu | it won't be my 'all out' computer |
| 06:51.49 | asxu | because a lot of things that run on windows, don't on mac.. obviously |
| 06:51.49 | ckknight | I don't like the culture |
| 06:52.00 | asxu | and i'm not a fan of virtual windows or whatever it's called. |
| 06:52.09 | Ratbert_CP | Emphasis on "cult" |
| 06:52.19 | asxu | haha |
| 06:52.21 | ckknight | the cult of mac is based around being pretentous |
| 06:52.37 | Ratbert_CP | Of course, I'm a raving unix/linux bigot, so go figure... ;) |
| 06:52.59 | ckknight | by being a blinded mass of sheep who listen only to what the ads say is cool and don't have a real opinion of their own |
| 06:53.07 | Ratbert_CP | Then again, I'm also phenomenally azy, so I run Windows for compatability... |
| 06:53.13 | Ratbert_CP | s/azy/lazy/ |
| 06:53.28 | ckknight | Ratbert_CP, same here. I wish Linux had better ISV support |
| 06:53.36 | ckknight | if it did, I'd be using it |
| 06:54.13 | Ratbert_CP | I wish I had the skillz and time/energy to do what a co-worker does. Runs linux, and "works" inside a vmware session. |
| 06:54.42 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:54.48 | ckknight | I've done that |
| 06:55.18 | ckknight | it's not just about productivity, it's about harnessing the killing chi of the forefathers |
| 06:56.23 | Ratbert_CP | Of course, he also has about 4 vmware snapshots that he runs to test various applications and servers... Frankly, he scares me. |
| 06:56.50 | Ratbert_CP | And BSoD never, *ever* bothers him. |
| 06:58.53 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4013 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - fixed bug |
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| 07:01.04 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4014 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - removed debug line |
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| 07:03.59 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4015 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - inject initial handler if not set. |
| 07:06.40 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4016 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
| 07:06.40 | CIA-7 | Dewdrop-2.0 - |
| 07:06.40 | CIA-7 | changed sliderTop to sliderMaxText |
| 07:06.40 | CIA-7 | changed sliderBottom to sliderMinText |
| 07:06.40 | CIA-7 | added sliderMax, sliderMin, and sliderIsPercent |
| 07:07.12 | ckknight | now to get Dewdrop to take an AceOptions data table... |
| 07:10.25 | MoonWolf | citrix is the most fun tool EVER |
| 07:10.30 | MoonWolf | although i have never gamed on it. |
| 07:10.48 | MoonWolf | is that in the realm of the possible, gaming through citrix ? |
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| 07:28.59 | Slayman | Thrae where are you? Be so kind and talk to me for a sec! |
| 07:33.35 | ckknight | how many emo kids does it take to screw in a lightbulb? |
| 07:33.57 | ckknight | it doesn't matter anyway - they'll just sit in the dark and cry. |
| 07:34.14 | MoonWolf | heh |
| 07:35.16 | MoonWolf | one to cry about the loss of light in their life, one to cut himself with the shards of glass of the broken bulb, one to screw a new lightbulb in and one to write bad poetry about the symbolic meaning of it all. |
| 07:38.47 | ckknight | hehe |
| 07:38.50 | ckknight | that's a good one too |
| 07:41.17 | kergoth | argh |
| 07:41.28 | kergoth | one of my addons seems to somehow result in wow crashing |
| 07:41.30 | kergoth | and i have no idea which |
| 07:41.33 | kergoth | fun fun |
| 07:42.36 | Mikma | g'morning |
| 07:42.45 | Mikma | slept like 10h :D |
| 07:43.54 | MoonWolf | kergoth, have fun finding out. |
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| 07:44.09 | kergoth | indeed |
| 07:44.11 | kergoth | hit the wrong button, foo |
| 07:44.15 | MoonWolf | you have about a 150+ running right / |
| 07:44.18 | MoonWolf | ?* |
| 07:45.11 | kergoth | around there |
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| 07:51.01 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4017 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - self.error -> options.error |
| 07:52.45 | Wobin | hm |
| 07:54.05 | Slayman | slept like 5.5h fucking heat |
| 07:54.58 | Wobin | thank god for AC |
| 07:55.14 | Wobin | how hotis it over there Slay? |
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| 07:58.31 | Slayman | i would say like 30 degree Celsius in the shadow |
| 07:58.38 | Slayman | possibly a little less |
| 07:59.16 | Wobin | ah |
| 07:59.18 | Wobin | yea. |
| 07:59.23 | Wobin | It's about 36 here atm =) |
| 07:59.24 | Slayman | it sucks ass |
| 08:00.00 | Slayman | lucky me i have a fan! otherwise I'd die |
| 08:00.29 | kergoth | logigng in with a certain char with all addons enabled doesnt crash.. but multiple other chars do... /me thinks its time to cp -av some saved vars around |
| 08:02.23 | Slayman | rm -R wtf/ |
| 08:02.43 | kergoth | :'( |
| 08:04.43 | kergoth | i did that, still crashes on login with my mage... /me tries other chars |
| 08:06.17 | kergoth | what the hell |
| 08:06.22 | kergoth | crashes with my level 48 mage on login |
| 08:06.27 | kergoth | doesnt crash wtiha level 1 mage on another server |
| 08:06.39 | kergoth | just rm -rf'd WTF, so same addons being loaded, same settings (lack thereof) |
| 08:07.16 | kergoth | must be an addon with a level specific block of code doing something that makes wow unhappy |
| 08:07.21 | Slayman | rm -R wdb ? |
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| 08:09.01 | Slayman | i have an addon which prints ItemIDs in the general chatwindow wheneveri receive an item. THAT sucks! |
| 08:14.05 | MoonWolf | Slayman, cool. |
| 08:14.15 | Slayman | i pisses me off |
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| 08:26.01 | FryGuy- | woot |
| 08:26.14 | FryGuy- | converted my dkp thingy to curl |
| 08:26.15 | FryGuy- | :D |
| 08:27.14 | FryGuy- | http://burntpopcorn.net/parse.php |
| 08:27.54 | Shyva | I got a script here which does exactly the same thing for me, for my own mod :p |
| 08:28.01 | FryGuy- | hey :( |
| 08:28.03 | FryGuy- | my mod is cooler |
| 08:28.10 | FryGuy- | it filters out people that already have the item |
| 08:28.32 | Shyva | ooooh, that's cool, mine only tells me the amount of dkp people have ;p |
| 08:28.44 | Shyva | And my php script is a commandline thingie :p |
| 08:28.47 | FryGuy- | i need to get it working for the naxx items though |
| 08:28.53 | FryGuy- | like where it's multiple people |
| 08:28.59 | FryGuy- | and also a nicer interface |
| 08:29.05 | FryGuy- | cause I have to type in the classes each time :/ |
| 08:29.12 | FryGuy- | i suppose that's something for PT though |
| 08:29.29 | FryGuy- | hmm |
| 08:29.42 | FryGuy- | i guess my dkp thing isn't on the svn |
| 08:32.01 | CIA-7 | 03fryguy * r4018 10AceListDKP/ (7 files): AceListDKP: Initial import since I forgot I didn't add this to repository ages ago. |
| 08:41.28 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4019 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: |
| 08:41.28 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (CThun): |
| 08:41.28 | CIA-7 | * Again some adjustments to the warnings and timers. |
| 08:41.28 | CIA-7 | * The dark glare duration bar should now show up and give warnings about incoming green beam. |
| 08:41.43 | [Ammo] | fryguy: I hope you have permission to use teh Ace prefix |
| 08:41.48 | kergoth | what the fuck |
| 08:42.08 | kergoth | whenever i run wow with opengl instead of direct3d, which gets rid of the annoying targeting lag, the game crashes on login with only higher level characters |
| 08:42.53 | [Ammo] | weird |
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| 08:45.03 | netcurse | hello |
| 08:45.12 | Shyva | Yow |
| 08:46.56 | FryGuy- | ammo: did I need permission? |
| 08:47.04 | FryGuy- | I wrote it when everything was acexxx |
| 08:47.15 | Wobin | quick rename it |
| 08:47.24 | MoonWolf | we want to reserve acexxx names to things that are used inside ace itself to keep confusion down. |
| 08:47.31 | FryGuy- | oh ok |
| 08:47.33 | FryGuy- | i'll change it |
| 08:47.39 | FryGuy- | what should I call it? :p |
| 08:47.47 | Wobin | ListDKP? =) |
| 08:47.52 | Wobin | What does it do? |
| 08:47.54 | FryGuy- | i think something already has that :p |
| 08:47.55 | FryGuy- | uh |
| 08:48.02 | FryGuy- | lists's people's dkp |
| 08:48.06 | Kebinusan | haha |
| 08:48.11 | Kebinusan | like from eqdkp or something? |
| 08:48.17 | FryGuy- | and also scans the raid to filter out people that already have the items |
| 08:48.18 | FryGuy- | ya |
| 08:48.26 | FryGuy- | i plan on doing more though |
| 08:49.00 | FryGuy- | making so you can do something like "/shards Lucifron" and list all the items that'll get sharded |
| 08:49.24 | FryGuy- | something witty like PT :p |
| 08:49.35 | FryGuy- | i guess I could rename it FryListDKP :p |
| 08:49.55 | MoonWolf | deepfrydkp |
| 08:50.06 | FryGuy- | Fry me a river? :P |
| 08:50.16 | phyber | FryGuy-: *** Incoming wrath of Tem in <whenever he sees that commit> *** |
| 08:50.52 | MoonWolf | good going setting of his highlite |
| 08:51.17 | phyber | incoming phase 2? |
| 08:51.23 | phyber | :) |
| 08:51.38 | CIA-7 | 03fryguy * r4020 10AceListDKP/ (6 files): guess not supposed to use the Ace* name for addons anymore. Someone else delete the directory please :( |
| 08:52.20 | phyber | you can rename the directory on svn, i think. |
| 08:52.38 | FryGuy- | only if you have the entire repo checked out |
| 08:52.57 | FryGuy- | should I remove my other 2 addons that are on there that are named ace*? |
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| 08:56.49 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4021 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Grobbulus.lua: |
| 08:56.49 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 08:56.50 | CIA-7 | * Added Grobbulus module based on Lute's work. Needs testing before adding to the .toc |
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| 08:58.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem_] by ChanServ |
| 08:58.24 | FryGuy- | ungh that lute guy is annoying.. showing me up on making these mods :p |
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| 09:00.24 | CIA-7 | 03fryguy * r4022 10FryListDKP/ (7 files): |
| 09:01.19 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4023 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: |
| 09:01.19 | CIA-7 | Bigwigs (Gluth): |
| 09:01.19 | CIA-7 | * Added Fear warnings for Gluth. By Lute. |
| 09:16.15 | Neronix`sleep | ckknight_: Is dewdrop:Feed() still in the works? |
| 09:16.17 | Wobin | rara |
| 09:16.21 | ckknight_ | Neronix, writing it now. |
| 09:16.23 | Wobin | How is this WORKING?! |
| 09:16.36 | Neronix | ckknight_: \o/ |
| 09:16.37 | Wobin | I pretty much restructured the objects in PlowKing |
| 09:16.38 | ckknight_ | I've done color, toggle, execute, and range |
| 09:16.42 | ckknight_ | working on text/set |
| 09:16.45 | Wobin | But I didn't expect it to load =\ |
| 09:16.49 | ckknight_ | I have group to go |
| 09:25.10 | ckknight_ | woot, got text/set to work |
| 09:26.58 | ckknight_ | writing this was basically just translating the table into dewdrop commands |
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| 09:55.50 | ckknight_ | woot, text w/ validation works for dewdrop, albeit semi-strangely |
| 10:00.01 | phyber | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=8850782&p=1&tmp=1#post8850782 |
| 10:00.04 | phyber | you guys read that? |
| 10:00.22 | phyber | Re: Scourge Invasion |
| 10:01.25 | CIA-7 | 03otravi 07otravi * r4024 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Telo's MobHealth should be supported now. |
| 10:02.47 | FryGuy- | otravi: that's based on aceunitframes right? |
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| 10:09.26 | Elkano^wtf | k, anyone told you about the argcheck bug with deformat-2.0? |
| 10:09.40 | Elkano^wtf | ck... |
| 10:10.17 | ckknight_ | it was fixed |
| 10:10.21 | ckknight_ | someone fixed it, afaik |
| 10:10.28 | haste_ | FryGuy-, not anymore |
| 10:15.14 | phyber | Elkano^wtf: I fixed it |
| 10:15.24 | phyber | check it out again, fine now :) |
| 10:15.38 | FryGuy- | hmm it's not? :p |
| 10:15.56 | FryGuy- | i was thinking about someone making a new version with the createframe stuffs :p |
| 10:16.45 | haste_ | AceUnitFrames has problems which we were unable to solve, and re-create |
| 10:16.49 | haste_ | and a little memory leak |
| 10:18.46 | ckknight_ | thanks for fixing it, phyber |
| 10:19.00 | ckknight_ | okay, done Dewdrop's AceOptions data table handler |
| 10:19.12 | haste_ | :OO |
| 10:20.32 | CIA-7 | 03otravi 07otravi * r4025 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF_Target/target.lua: oUF2 - The target frame now 'works' without a border, but it looks fugly... |
| 10:21.12 | Gngsk | beauty is in the eye of the beholder |
| 10:22.24 | ckknight_ | your mom is in the eye of the beholder |
| 10:22.45 | MoonWolf | NO YOUR MOM |
| 10:23.16 | Gngsk | or the pants of the beholder |
| 10:24.31 | ckknight_ | or the eye of the beer holder |
| 10:24.43 | MoonWolf | your mom is in the eye of the pants holder ? |
| 10:27.51 | ckknight_ | your mom's going to go watch some anime |
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| 10:39.00 | Neronix | ~whalenametheft me |
| 10:39.01 | purl | ACTION watches in awe as a rather menacing whale named Reginald (who also happens to be well versed in the art of marketing) steals neronix's name. The now anonymous target weeps. |
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| 10:40.01 | MoonWolf | Neronix, how many more are you going to make ? |
| 10:41.04 | Slayman | is "DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("some fucking text")" legal? can't find it in the wiki |
| 10:41.14 | Neronix | As many as necessary |
| 10:41.29 | Neronix | Whale battles have gotten stale :( |
| 10:41.32 | ckknight_ | yes, Slayman |
| 10:41.41 | Slayman | ty |
| 10:42.04 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4026 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: |
| 10:42.04 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 10:42.04 | CIA-7 | * Added Grobbulus module to the .toc. |
| 10:42.04 | CIA-7 | * The module needs live testing in the fight still. |
| 10:43.07 | FryGuy- | hopefully we kill patchwerk tomorrow and find out :p |
| 10:43.47 | [Ammo] | ;) |
| 10:43.55 | [Ammo] | make sure to get transcripts~ |
| 10:44.29 | Slayman | ckknight: is there some sort of a newline command for DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("some fucking text") ? |
| 10:44.47 | [Ammo] | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("some fucking text\n") |
| 10:44.53 | [Ammo] | methinks |
| 10:45.44 | haste_ | I know that \n works fine on UIErrorsFrame |
| 10:46.08 | ckknight_ | Ammo's riht |
| 10:46.10 | ckknight_ | right* |
| 10:48.34 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4027 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: Dewdrop - feeding a table into the children statement of register will use the AceOptions data table format. |
| 10:51.28 | Slayman | Wooohooo ! i fucking made it ^^ |
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| 10:52.51 | Neronix | Todo for today: Get a job :O |
| 10:52.55 | Neronix | Wish me luck :P |
| 10:53.53 | phyber | Slayman: made what? |
| 10:54.30 | Slayman | a simple function allowing me to switch between battle and berserker stance with one key |
| 11:01.24 | phyber | ahh :) |
| 11:05.57 | haste_ | wee, I'm moving at the end of this month |
| 11:06.56 | ckknight_ | hooray |
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| 11:13.52 | haste_ | which means I'm most likely without internet a month |
| 11:15.26 | [Ammo] | in .nl 3-5 days is normal for internet :) |
| 11:16.20 | ag` | does anyone know of a good read if I were to learn object oriented coding? |
| 11:16.29 | haste_ | Telenor has a monopoly in norway |
| 11:16.35 | haste_ | and they are VERY slow :( |
| 11:21.01 | [Ammo] | hrmf, people whinging about tentacle rape :p |
| 11:23.09 | haste_ | really? |
| 11:23.13 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 11:23.33 | [Ammo] | not inclined to change it though |
| 11:23.46 | [Ammo] | that's what the profanity filter is for :p |
| 11:29.15 | Gngsk | hey ammo, is there any chance you would add an option to necro for disabling the timers? |
| 11:30.33 | ckknight_ | ~C'thun |
| 11:30.35 | purl | *** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - 10~ sec! *** |
| 11:31.26 | [Ammo] | gngsk: there already is |
| 11:31.55 | Gngsk | I couldn't find it |
| 11:33.07 | [Ammo] | gngsk: /necro timers or /necro timer |
| 11:33.10 | [Ammo] | will toggle em |
| 11:34.02 | Gngsk | ahh, it's not listed when I do /necro or /necro report |
| 11:34.11 | Gngsk | I'm running the version that's on wowi |
| 11:34.30 | [Ammo] | oh I must have forgotten it :) |
| 11:34.36 | [Ammo] | I'm working on an Ace2 version though |
| 11:34.42 | [Ammo] | with no silly Timex dependancy |
| 11:35.31 | Gngsk | bonus! |
| 11:35.42 | Gngsk | so disabling the timers will unhook and unregister those events? |
| 11:35.48 | Gngsk | cuz I'm using acetimers |
| 11:35.52 | ckknight_ | well, I got a unified Dewdrop/AceConsole system now |
| 11:36.32 | Gngsk | hrmm |
| 11:36.41 | ckknight_ | which is pimp |
| 11:36.44 | Gngsk | I get invalid option error for both 'timer' and 'timers' |
| 11:36.46 | ckknight_ | you can't deny |
| 11:37.24 | [Ammo] | hmm then use the svn version I guess :) |
| 11:37.30 | [Ammo] | think I forgot to put it up on wowi |
| 11:37.39 | [Ammo] | but it'll disable the updating of the timers etc etc |
| 11:37.44 | [Ammo] | it should be resource free |
| 11:37.48 | [Ammo] | if disabled |
| 11:38.12 | phyber | awww, poor babies. scared by tentacle rape. maybe their mummy should use the parental controls :| |
| 11:38.17 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 11:38.21 | Gngsk | ok, I'll updated to svn, thx for the info |
| 11:38.56 | phyber | I'm looking forward to one day being at C'Thun and having that popup on my screen :p |
| 11:39.04 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4028 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Patchwerk.lua: |
| 11:39.04 | CIA-7 | BigWigs(Patchwerk): |
| 11:39.04 | CIA-7 | * Removed sync starting, it's a unique yell so we trigger of that much cleaner code now :) |
| 11:39.47 | CIA-7 | 03silverwind * r4029 10AceTargetLog/AceTargetLog.lua: |
| 11:39.47 | CIA-7 | AceTargetLog |
| 11:39.47 | CIA-7 | - Fixed typo in locals |
| 11:41.28 | FryGuy- | ammo: unfortunately I couldn't get the yell trigger to work on the "patchwerk want to play!" yell :( |
| 11:41.36 | haste_ | "Tem's furious anger crits AceTargetLog 399." |
| 11:41.54 | haste_ | should be a for in there also |
| 11:43.01 | FryGuy- | what's acetargetlog? |
| 11:44.04 | haste_ | no idea |
| 11:44.27 | FryGuy- | oh and there's 2 start yells ammo: |
| 11:44.27 | FryGuy- | starttrigger1 = "Kel'thuzad make Patchwerk his avatar of war!", |
| 11:44.27 | FryGuy- | starttrigger2 = "Patchwerk want to play!", |
| 11:45.09 | FryGuy- | although there's something wrong with either the second one, or this: |
| 11:45.10 | FryGuy- | if (arg1 == self.loc.starttrigger1 or arg1 == self.loc.starttrigger2) then |
| 11:45.20 | [Ammo] | oh 2 |
| 11:45.21 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 11:45.22 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 11:45.29 | haste_ | http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/38256/Free_Candy.html ;D |
| 11:45.30 | [Ammo] | working on Gluth's AOE zombie thing atm |
| 11:45.33 | FryGuy- | can you see anything wrong with that? :/ |
| 11:45.42 | FryGuy- | heh |
| 11:45.46 | FryGuy- | it's every 2 minutes |
| 11:45.53 | FryGuy- | and triggered on "Gluth gains Decimate" i think |
| 11:46.13 | [Ammo] | 105 seconds afaik |
| 11:46.24 | [Ammo] | but I'd need a log :) |
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| 11:47.58 | haste_ | ckknight_, was there added a funtion to check if a event is registered? |
| 11:48.11 | ckknight_ | :IsEventRegistered("event") |
| 11:48.17 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4030 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Patchwerk.lua: |
| 11:48.17 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Patchwerk): |
| 11:48.17 | CIA-7 | * Added second start yell trigger |
| 11:48.17 | ckknight_ | check the API docs next time |
| 11:48.37 | haste_ | I'm short on time :( |
| 11:48.41 | FryGuy- | pssh whatever :p |
| 11:49.48 | [Ammo] | fryguy: happen to have a transcript of gluth? |
| 11:51.17 | CIA-7 | 03otravi 07otravi * r4031 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Event error fixed. |
| 11:51.41 | FryGuy- | nah we're not there yet |
| 11:51.47 | FryGuy- | i'm going by the curse video |
| 11:51.57 | FryGuy- | it's the event that a boss gains a buff |
| 11:52.43 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 11:52.57 | [Ammo] | I just found some other gluth mod and it says 105 seconds |
| 11:53.13 | FryGuy- | should be decimatetrigger = "Gluth gains Decimate." |
| 11:53.26 | [Ammo] | but which event :) |
| 11:54.01 | FryGuy- | and |
| 11:54.02 | FryGuy- | function BigWigsGluth:CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_CREATURE_BUFFS() |
| 11:54.02 | FryGuy- | if (arg1 == self.loc.decimatetrigger) then |
| 11:54.02 | FryGuy- | self:TriggerEvent("BIGWIGS_SYNC_SEND", "SARTURA_DECIMATE") |
| 11:54.02 | FryGuy- | end |
| 11:54.02 | FryGuy- | end |
| 11:54.21 | [Ammo] | k I'll go with that |
| 11:54.22 | FryGuy- | er |
| 11:54.26 | FryGuy- | GLUTH_DECIMATE :p |
| 11:54.42 | ag` | what is coldfusionshell? |
| 11:56.00 | haste_ | ag`, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4946 |
| 11:56.32 | ag` | thanks |
| 12:01.27 | CIA-7 | 03otravi 07otravi * r4032 10otravi_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 6 dirs): oUF2 - More updates *yay*. |
| 12:02.09 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4033 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole - added aliases |
| 12:04.19 | Mikma | updates!! |
| 12:04.27 | Mikma | haste_: what's new? :) |
| 12:04.44 | haste_ | nothing, just bug fixes |
| 12:04.50 | Mikma | ok, gotta fly again, laters |
| 12:05.59 | ckknight_ | http://www.break.com/index/blindedbylove3.html |
| 12:06.02 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4034 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Gluth.lua: |
| 12:06.02 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Gluth): |
| 12:06.03 | CIA-7 | * Added Decimate warnings. |
| 12:06.03 | CIA-7 | * Added start trigger. |
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| 12:33.13 | ckknight_ | http://www.break.com/movies/howardclock.html |
| 12:34.17 | Industrial | 14:34 .. morning |
| 12:34.29 | SunTiger | yes |
| 12:34.32 | SunTiger | good morning |
| 12:34.38 | haste_ | http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=1z22h4i << uhm? |
| 12:34.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 12:34.48 | haste_ | I can't check that one out myself, leaving for work in a couple of secs :p |
| 12:35.05 | MoonWolf | loading very slowly |
| 12:35.22 | haste_ | 450 was self:UnregisterEvent("PARTY_MEMBER_CHANGED") |
| 12:36.07 | Industrial | haste_: what kind of work do you do? |
| 12:36.29 | Industrial | coding?:p |
| 12:36.32 | haste_ | nope |
| 12:36.45 | haste_ | I needed to get a job fast :p |
| 12:36.52 | haste_ | so I applied for basicly everything |
| 12:36.57 | haste_ | and took the first I got |
| 12:37.18 | haste_ | which was managing what goes out of a slaughterer here |
| 12:37.36 | haste_ | but I'm leaving now - bye bye |
| 12:38.09 | Industrial | eck :\ |
| 12:38.12 | Industrial | bye |
| 12:45.24 | Industrial | how can a checkout of trunk take 10+ mins :| |
| 12:45.29 | Industrial | oh yeah, externals |
| 12:45.31 | Industrial | :> |
| 12:46.41 | ckknight_ | lol |
| 12:47.09 | Industrial | I'm about to add idUnitframes, how do these externals work? |
| 12:47.30 | Industrial | so people can play with the only frame there is :P |
| 12:47.47 | Industrial | yet :> |
| 12:48.09 | ag` | How come each Ace2 mod includes parts of ace where old ace mods didn't have to? |
| 12:48.21 | Industrial | because its embedded |
| 12:48.33 | ag` | Ok |
| 12:48.34 | MoonWolf | ag`, because its embedded, this is the nature of embedded addons. |
| 12:48.34 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten 072.0.4033 * r4035 10OneBag/: Tagging for release of OneBag 2.0.4033 |
| 12:48.53 | Tain | It just means you won't have to download a separate standalone Ace addon, ag. |
| 12:49.21 | Tain | So no one will ever have to have an Ace2 directory as a dependancy for any addon. |
| 12:50.01 | MoonWolf | the only people who should ever have an ace2 directory should be authors. |
| 12:50.05 | MoonWolf | and even then |
| 12:50.08 | MoonWolf | its not necesary |
| 12:50.15 | Industrial | is ace2 big? |
| 12:50.17 | ckknight_ | yea, authors shouldn't really have it even |
| 12:50.19 | Industrial | in filesize |
| 12:50.19 | ckknight_ | no, indie |
| 12:50.22 | Industrial | k |
| 12:50.29 | Tain | It's one hundred million kilomegocyclobites |
| 12:50.36 | Industrial | hehe |
| 12:50.40 | MoonWolf | its one kiloquad. |
| 12:50.53 | MoonWolf | </startrek> |
| 12:50.57 | [Ammo] | kebinusan around? |
| 12:51.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 12:54.32 | CIA-7 | 03id * r4036 10idUnitframes/ (5 files in 2 dirs): idUnitframes: first commit, you get an unmovable player frame. |
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| 12:55.21 | Wobin | huzzah |
| 12:55.27 | Wobin | server reboot =P |
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| 12:55.33 | Wobin | no npcs at all |
| 12:55.45 | phyber | they went for lunch. |
| 12:55.47 | Wobin | Although we were safely tucked away in ZG |
| 12:55.53 | Industrial | there we go, idUnitframes up for grabs :P |
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| 12:56.16 | Wobin | Wow |
| 12:56.19 | Wobin | A queenslander |
| 12:56.27 | Wobin | g'day =) |
| 12:56.30 | XLVII | what's the repository path? |
| 12:56.32 | XLVII | hey wobin |
| 12:56.34 | MoonWolf | ooh an aussie |
| 12:56.41 | Wobin | http://svn.wowace.com |
| 12:56.46 | MoonWolf | we were lacking those. |
| 12:56.48 | Wobin | http://svn.wowace.com/root |
| 12:56.50 | Wobin | oi |
| 12:56.54 | Wobin | what am I? |
| 12:56.58 | Industrial | :p |
| 12:57.10 | MoonWolf | we did not have enough of those < fixed. |
| 12:57.12 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4037 10BigWigs/AQ40/Ouro.lua: |
| 12:57.12 | CIA-7 | BigWigs(Ouro): |
| 12:57.12 | CIA-7 | * Should have fixed the submerge triggering |
| 12:57.12 | XLVII | you're 221.221.19.150 which i can't be bothered to tracert. |
| 12:57.17 | Wobin | hehe |
| 12:57.29 | XLVII | can't setup smartsvn |
| 12:57.35 | XLVII | just saying |
| 12:57.40 | XLVII | svn: wowace: wowace |
| 12:57.42 | [Ammo] | use tortoise :) |
| 12:57.45 | Wobin | I'm from sydney |
| 12:57.50 | Wobin | but I'm currently in Beijing |
| 12:57.52 | XLVII | tortoise doesn't load for me. |
| 12:58.15 | XLVII | worked now. |
| 12:58.19 | XLVII | smartsvn that is. |
| 12:58.24 | Wobin | hm, not sure about smartsvn |
| 12:58.28 | ckknight | XLVII, you're not a real person. you're a number |
| 12:58.32 | Wobin | is there a rapidsvn? |
| 12:58.46 | XLVII | Tim Nickname is already in use. |
| 12:58.47 | [Ammo] | commandline linux svn ftw ;) |
| 12:58.48 | XLVII | *sigh* |
| 12:59.12 | ckknight | you're like 47, I think |
| 12:59.17 | Wobin | yes |
| 12:59.24 | XLVII | i remember using a svn back in the days when i used to run a lineage 2 private server. |
| 12:59.30 | XLVII | but i forget the program i used back then |
| 12:59.58 | XLVII | ckknight, yes.. 47 |
| 13:00.04 | ckknight | bam! |
| 13:00.11 | ckknight | kick it up one notch |
| 13:00.12 | XLVII | the ideal number of people to have in a raiding guild |
| 13:00.16 | MoonWolf | what is with all the old people here |
| 13:00.20 | MoonWolf | isharra is old too. |
| 13:00.23 | XLVII | i'm not old, i'm 15. |
| 13:00.38 | CIA-7 | 03id * r4038 10idUnitframes/: idUnitframes: uh, externals? :S |
| 13:00.47 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:00.47 | XLVII | 16, soon. |
| 13:00.48 | MoonWolf | misunderstanding discussions ftw. |
| 13:01.00 | MoonWolf | PWND |
| 13:01.10 | XLVII | industrial, would just like to say, i'm a big fan of your addons |
| 13:01.21 | Industrial | :O |
| 13:01.23 | XLVII | so simplistic, and exactly what i was looking for. |
| 13:01.27 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 13:01.30 | MoonWolf | damnit phyber |
| 13:02.03 | phyber | MoonWolf: hmm? |
| 13:02.11 | XLVII | telstra sucks. |
| 13:02.23 | MoonWolf | I'm going to have to "take care" of you now. |
| 13:02.38 | XLVII | to run tortoise svn i run tortoiseproc.exe right? |
| 13:02.45 | Industrial | *wild west whistle* |
| 13:02.50 | Wobin | It should be integrated into the shell |
| 13:02.56 | Wobin | (hoho shell) |
| 13:03.02 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:03.03 | phyber | heh |
| 13:03.07 | XLVII | huh? |
| 13:03.13 | XLVII | don't get too technical now. |
| 13:03.18 | [Ammo] | rightclick the folder in windows |
| 13:03.20 | Wobin | rightclick on an empty space and choose either 'Checkout' or Repo Browser |
| 13:03.23 | [Ammo] | and there's an SVN checkout options |
| 13:03.36 | XLVII | i see. |
| 13:03.37 | XLVII | ^_^ |
| 13:03.40 | [Ammo] | bunch of youngsters :p |
| 13:03.42 | MoonWolf | an empty place that can hold files that is. |
| 13:03.49 | Wobin | whippersnappers |
| 13:03.57 | [Ammo] | 1 hint, I learned programming on a ZX80 when it was hot and hip :p |
| 13:04.05 | XLVII | https://opensvn.csie.org/L2J_Datapack |
| 13:04.10 | MoonWolf | ishara actually remembers working with punchcards. |
| 13:04.13 | XLVII | i must have used tortoise for l2j.. |
| 13:04.58 | phyber | we have some punch cards here. I keep wondering what data/program is on them. |
| 13:05.22 | XLVII | everything is in branch right? |
| 13:05.25 | Slayman | anyone of you has to take over AceTimer it needs fixing big time :( |
| 13:05.29 | XLVII | the latest verions anyway. |
| 13:05.32 | phyber | well, what they make the machine do when they are put into the punch-card-hole. |
| 13:05.38 | Industrial | [Ammo]: you are 43! :P |
| 13:05.42 | Wobin | XLVII: Nah, trunk |
| 13:05.46 | Industrial | or.. somethin.. |
| 13:06.06 | [Ammo] | industrial not really :p |
| 13:06.07 | MoonWolf | [Ammo], you better not be my dad in disguise. |
| 13:06.07 | Wobin | XLVII: Well, the stable versions are |
| 13:06.14 | [Ammo] | <-- 30 :p |
| 13:06.15 | Wobin | XLVII: Well the relatively stable versions are |
| 13:06.23 | [Ammo] | learned programming at 7 |
| 13:06.24 | XLVII | wobin, true. |
| 13:06.33 | MoonWolf | 7.... |
| 13:06.34 | XLVII | 7, crikey! |
| 13:06.41 | MoonWolf | i only started qbasic at 13/14 |
| 13:06.44 | XLVII | i learnt the basics of python when i was 12? |
| 13:06.54 | [Ammo] | well, you had to learn stuff |
| 13:06.55 | XLVII | python i have forgot. |
| 13:07.06 | [Ammo] | if you wanted to play a game you had to type it all in from a magazine |
| 13:07.11 | [Ammo] | and save it on a tape |
| 13:07.16 | [Ammo] | from typing over you learn a lot |
| 13:07.30 | XLVII | now that's cool. |
| 13:07.34 | MoonWolf | or you could record it from the radio transmissions. |
| 13:07.39 | XLVII | the magazines were probably dirt cheap too. |
| 13:07.39 | [Ammo] | yeah you could |
| 13:07.48 | [Ammo] | or tape trading |
| 13:07.56 | [Ammo] | but tape trading isn't a thing a 7 year old does :p |
| 13:07.58 | XLVII | like pokemon cards. |
| 13:07.59 | MoonWolf | and they say piracy is bad nowaway' s |
| 13:08.03 | XLVII | lol. |
| 13:08.16 | [Ammo] | so my dad just brought me copies of magazines |
| 13:08.18 | MoonWolf | XLVII, like photocopied pokemon cards |
| 13:08.29 | [Ammo] | and I meticilusly(sp?) typed in the games |
| 13:08.54 | MoonWolf | damnit i fucked up something on line 38892 |
| 13:09.03 | [Ammo] | that kinda thing hurts yeah |
| 13:09.21 | [Ammo] | some games were like 10 pages of code |
| 13:09.24 | MoonWolf | wait a minute, why do i even HAVE line 38892, this is a incement system of 10... |
| 13:09.29 | [Ammo] | with half of it poke poke poke poke poke poke |
| 13:09.35 | MoonWolf | increment* |
| 13:09.45 | MoonWolf | poke and peek |
| 13:09.49 | MoonWolf | fucking your brain up |
| 13:10.00 | [Ammo] | btw need a nifty name for an embedded timerbar lib |
| 13:10.01 | MoonWolf | and a large part of sprite definitions |
| 13:10.08 | [Ammo] | it's time to make timex obsolete in bigwigs |
| 13:10.11 | [Ammo] | and make the move to Ace2 |
| 13:10.15 | MoonWolf | yay |
| 13:10.20 | [Ammo] | but... |
| 13:10.22 | MoonWolf | is it metrognome based ? |
| 13:10.25 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:10.43 | [Ammo] | discussed it some with Tekkub, he said he'd branch last night |
| 13:10.45 | [Ammo] | guess he didn't |
| 13:10.55 | [Ammo] | but we still need a good name for the timerbars |
| 13:11.07 | MoonWolf | do you have anythings against names ? |
| 13:11.10 | [Ammo] | bars chocolate bars snickers mars |
| 13:11.25 | MoonWolf | as in names of gods or mythiology ? |
| 13:11.36 | [Ammo] | MetroGnome is a kinda cool name |
| 13:11.42 | [Ammo] | the accompanying bars should be as good |
| 13:11.58 | [Ammo] | Goblin<something> ? |
| 13:12.04 | Shyva | I'm sure tekkub will come withsomething good :) |
| 13:12.14 | [Ammo] | naah he said to me: Figure me a good name! |
| 13:12.18 | [Ammo] | so I come to you guys :p |
| 13:12.24 | Shyva | ^^ |
| 13:12.29 | [Ammo] | couldn't come up with a good one |
| 13:13.47 | MoonWolf | Saturn. |
| 13:14.00 | XLVII | what are we making a name for? |
| 13:14.14 | MoonWolf | saturn was the god of time, also its the logical step up from mars. |
| 13:14.15 | Shyva | Timer bars |
| 13:15.36 | XLVII | Kala? |
| 13:15.51 | XLVII | Moirae? |
| 13:15.54 | Tain | How about... "Timer Bars" |
| 13:16.03 | MoonWolf | thats a lame name |
| 13:16.07 | MoonWolf | and not obscure enough |
| 13:16.10 | Shyva | original Tain! :-D |
| 13:16.23 | XLVII | Mahakala? |
| 13:16.29 | XLVII | Alchera? |
| 13:16.38 | MoonWolf | what is the name of the bunny in alice in wonderland that is alway' s late ? |
| 13:16.45 | MoonWolf | does he HAVE a name ? |
| 13:16.50 | Tain | "Last Call" |
| 13:16.57 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 13:17.12 | Tain | He's just the White Rabbit |
| 13:17.17 | MoonWolf | damnit |
| 13:18.22 | XLVII | Cronos but that's a bit to similar. |
| 13:18.28 | XLVII | to Chronos |
| 13:18.29 | Industrial | lol :P |
| 13:18.53 | XLVII | just a bit.. |
| 13:19.16 | XLVII | Aion? |
| 13:19.17 | Industrial | UiBarThingyReducEmeraldLiekWhoa! |
| 13:19.24 | Industrial | UiBarThingyReduxEmeraldLiekWhoa! |
| 13:19.26 | Industrial | :P |
| 13:19.36 | XLVII | Yama? |
| 13:20.42 | MoonWolf | Chronos++ ? |
| 13:21.15 | [Ammo] | no ffing way :p |
| 13:21.28 | Tain | Gyrochronatom |
| 13:21.35 | XLVII | Tai-sui-xing? Give it a Chinese Farmer feeling.. |
| 13:21.38 | [Ammo] | that's more like it tain |
| 13:21.52 | MoonWolf | my vote goes to gyro(complicated word) |
| 13:22.23 | [Ammo] | TIRO Time Is Running Out |
| 13:22.24 | phyber | make it longer and more complicated. |
| 13:22.28 | phyber | Gyrochronatomicinstansiatormatron |
| 13:22.30 | Tain | Unfortunatly the addon also has dependancies of Iron Bar and Gold Power core |
| 13:22.30 | phyber | for example :p |
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| 13:29.52 | Kaelten | hows it going |
| 13:29.59 | MoonWolf | homosexual are gay |
| 13:30.41 | Kaelten | mostly |
| 13:30.55 | Tain | They're not all happy. |
| 13:31.04 | Wobin | They're the emohomos |
| 13:31.08 | Wobin | they're just ghey |
| 13:31.09 | Tain | Oh that's bad. |
| 13:31.44 | Wobin | hoemos? |
| 13:31.46 | Tain | Straighten out the bank frame problems yet for OneBag, Kaelten? :) |
| 13:31.47 | MoonWolf | down syndrome is retarded |
| 13:31.57 | Wobin | buggery is boring |
| 13:32.04 | Wobin | necrophilia is dead boring |
| 13:32.09 | Wobin | incest is relatively boring |
| 13:32.32 | Kaelten | Tain: party :) |
| 13:32.48 | MoonWolf | incest , that can be as boring or unboring as any other normal partner |
| 13:33.08 | Tain | There's another part of the joke you missed, MoonWolf |
| 13:33.18 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 13:35.59 | ag` | is there a method that runs when you create a new object from a class? |
| 13:36.07 | ag` | ace2 |
| 13:36.08 | Wobin | init? |
| 13:36.21 | ag` | thanks |
| 13:36.25 | Wobin | =) |
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| 13:39.54 | ag` | hmm, getting initialization not completed, be sure to call the superclass's init method |
| 13:45.29 | ag` | nm I found the problem |
| 13:45.31 | Wobin | I just met a rogue with 31 points free |
| 13:45.43 | XLVII | talent points? |
| 13:45.45 | Wobin | ag`: hehe you didn't call the superclass |
| 13:45.48 | Wobin | XLVII: yeah |
| 13:45.50 | ag` | Wobin: yep |
| 13:45.52 | XLVII | wobin, lol. |
| 13:45.59 | Wobin | I mean, wtf? |
| 13:46.00 | XLVII | wobin, which server do you play on? |
| 13:46.05 | Wobin | ARgent Dawn =) |
| 13:46.09 | XLVII | ok |
| 13:46.13 | XLVII | anyone on dethecus? |
| 13:46.14 | XLVII | ;F |
| 13:47.16 | XLVII | i have to go out of redrige somehow, lol. |
| 13:48.43 | Shyva | "Prey-CloneDVD-MDAtje" Yeaaay :-D |
| 13:48.48 | Shyva | Prey is cool :-D |
| 13:49.50 | Kebinusan | want pray vaporware from like 10 years ago |
| 13:49.57 | Kebinusan | err prey |
| 13:50.42 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten 072.0.4033 * r4039 10OneBag/OneBag/: Tagging for release of OneBag 2.0.4033 |
| 13:51.13 | Hakker | I want Supreme Commander actually ;) |
| 13:51.25 | Hakker | might cure me a bit from my wow addiction ;) |
| 13:52.14 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4040 10OneCore/ (. libs/): Initial import |
| 13:55.24 | ag` | Wobin: How do I call a prototype function inside another prototype function? |
| 13:55.53 | Wobin | you shouldn't have to |
| 13:55.58 | Wobin | call it through the class |
| 13:56.06 | Kaelten | self:FunctionName() I'd think |
| 13:56.46 | ag` | well I created the init function, and I created another function that I would like to be called by the init |
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| 14:12.20 | CIA-7 | 03neronix * r4041 10Lexan/Lexan.lua: |
| 14:12.20 | CIA-7 | Lexan |
| 14:12.20 | CIA-7 | - Lots of minor logic optimisations |
| 14:12.20 | CIA-7 | - Renamed Lexan:AH_ON/OFF() to the names of the events they handle. Should be a minor optimisation |
| 14:12.20 | CIA-7 | -- These changes are untested |
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| 14:31.04 | Tain | Just saw the book for Backstab 9 for the first time. Very disappointing upgrade. |
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| 14:41.46 | Wobin | self.super:Function() |
| 14:41.51 | Wobin | self.super:Function(self) |
| 14:42.00 | Wobin | oh wait |
| 14:42.05 | Wobin | no that's calling a super function |
| 14:42.17 | Wobin | What Kael said |
| 14:43.13 | ag` | I did self:functionname() |
| 14:43.15 | ag` | it worked fine |
| 14:46.14 | Mikma | yello! |
| 14:46.51 | ag` | I'm trying out to see if OO would work for a unit/party frame addon |
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| 14:49.19 | Mikma | let's hope internet can help me |
| 14:49.36 | Mikma | i'm trying to look the person who sold me my cat almost 10 years ago |
| 14:50.28 | ag` | I know you can find weird things on the net, but that's a tough call |
| 14:50.51 | Mikma | yeah :P |
| 14:51.18 | Tain | I bet the first link you find is to an underage hooker. |
| 14:51.42 | Mikma | well the thing is the cat's "race" was Ragdoll, and there aren't many raisers in finland |
| 14:52.08 | Mikma | Tain: yeah if you look for "seller of pussycat" ;) |
| 14:53.03 | Wobin | aww ragdolls |
| 14:53.08 | Wobin | They're freaky =) |
| 14:53.09 | Wobin | in a cute way |
| 14:53.15 | Mikma | yeah that's true |
| 14:53.22 | Mikma | i tought my cat on how to open doors |
| 14:53.28 | Mikma | .. i think it was a mistake |
| 14:53.36 | Wobin | By ringing the doorbell and running? |
| 14:53.51 | Mikma | no but pushing down the doorhandle and push/pull the door |
| 14:54.01 | Wobin | it's probably broken into someone else's house |
| 14:54.06 | Wobin | cat burglar style |
| 14:54.38 | Mikma | well.. the thing is we had to put that cat out yesterday and now i'm trying to find the person who sold me the ragroll :P |
| 14:55.11 | Cairenn | Mikma: :( |
| 14:55.27 | ag` | Mikma: you need to toilet train your cat |
| 14:56.18 | Mikma | http://www.finragdolls.net/mittedit/vv6.jpg .. it looked almost like that :P |
| 14:57.11 | MoonWolf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUKaaE32QQo&mode=related&search= <- lol |
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| 15:06.12 | Neronix | MoonWolf: That scares me O.o |
| 15:07.18 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 15:07.25 | Wobin | hehe |
| 15:07.31 | Wobin | cuream craker! |
| 15:09.50 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4042 10WitchHunt/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:09.50 | CIA-7 | WitchHunt: |
| 15:09.50 | CIA-7 | * Changed to Ace2.0, don't use yet though ;) |
| 15:09.58 | Kebinusan | ]heh |
| 15:10.04 | Neronix | My face is going to be stuck in the O.o position for the next 5 or so hours |
| 15:10.46 | [Ammo] | well it works |
| 15:10.48 | [Ammo] | I think :) |
| 15:10.51 | [Ammo] | it didn't barf on me |
| 15:11.21 | [Ammo] | but damn it's clean now ! |
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| 15:11.51 | Kebinusan | I'll update and take it for a spin |
| 15:12.15 | [Ammo] | you can always revert :) |
| 15:12.24 | Kebinusan | yeah |
| 15:12.49 | [Ammo] | this one has less options though |
| 15:12.55 | [Ammo] | just the Error frame is used, and combatonly, targetonly |
| 15:13.54 | [Ammo] | no toggles, no nothing |
| 15:13.54 | [Ammo] | I even pondered on removing those options, but that would not give me the oppertunity to play with AceConsole :) |
| 15:14.29 | Amadeo | You're updating WitchHunt!? |
| 15:15.13 | Wobin | downdating it =) |
| 15:15.22 | Neronix | [Ammo]: Btw, thanks for the suggestion to witch to dmg gear while levelling |
| 15:15.23 | MoonWolf | downdating ? |
| 15:15.31 | Neronix | Things die in about 15 seconds now |
| 15:15.42 | Neronix | And I've got +139 dmg gear already and I'm only lv 44 |
| 15:15.52 | Kebinusan | Im in the mood to respec again, my respec fees are never going to go below 50g |
| 15:16.05 | Amadeo | downdating, haha |
| 15:16.13 | Tain | I know what you mean Kebinusan, I respec'd 3 times before 50 on my current char. |
| 15:16.32 | MoonWolf | its the worst when you play that type of char for the first time. |
| 15:17.00 | Tain | What's worse is I've already played this class to 60 before. |
| 15:17.04 | Kebinusan | yeah I keep going between a couple spec's, I really like SM/ruin... but 7/5/39 is kinda fun too |
| 15:17.26 | Tain | haha we were having a vicious argument in guildchat last night between warlocks. |
| 15:17.46 | Neronix | I'm thinking MD/Ruin for when I'm 60 |
| 15:17.56 | Tain | One guy was insisting he is the top DPS guy on raids and anyone who doesn't spec that way is an idiot. |
| 15:17.59 | MoonWolf | spec x vs spec y ? |
| 15:18.37 | Tain | While another experienced Warlock was suggesting it may be better in a support role to help boost people's STA/HP. |
| 15:19.27 | Kebinusan | as far as pure damage output in pve you really cant beat 7/21/21 |
| 15:20.33 | [Ammo] | Neronix: dmg gear is best for levelling |
| 15:20.33 | Kebinusan | My biggest hangup on anything but sm/ruin is not having both grim and destructive reach... its annoying to have to get closer to cast affliction spells |
| 15:20.33 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 15:20.37 | [Ammo] | witchhunt isn't reporting stuff :p |
| 15:20.42 | Tain | The one thing I say goes for Warlocks and Druids and Shamans especially, but for most classes. You *can* do high DPS. But other classes can't do the *other* things you can add. |
| 15:20.57 | [Ammo] | I thought arguments to events got passed to the function ? |
| 15:21.02 | [Ammo] | or do I still need to use arg1? etc |
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| 15:21.17 | Wobin | Tain: agreed |
| 15:21.33 | Wobin | There are certain skills that are specifically class only support skills |
| 15:21.49 | Tain | I'm very much against guilds forcing a spec on classes. |
| 15:22.00 | Tain | But not against forcing a role on classes in certain encounters. |
| 15:22.02 | Wobin | And to ignore those skills is never a good thing, though, it makes you lose all individuality of the class |
| 15:22.19 | Mikma | Tain: yeah druid can do high dps, i've noticed that :) |
| 15:22.25 | Tain | They can Mikma. |
| 15:22.28 | Mikma | i can almost match the damage the same level rogue does |
| 15:22.29 | Tain | Druids can do a lot. |
| 15:22.30 | Wobin | ie, if we need healers on one boss, please heal =P |
| 15:22.35 | Kebinusan | pretty much, we have a few warlocks who take one for the team and put an odd point or two into improved healthstone sot he raid has some variety |
| 15:22.37 | Tain | The difference is the Rogue can't heal the Druid. |
| 15:22.41 | Wobin | Cause the rogues can't heal =P |
| 15:22.43 | Shyva | [Ammo]: "The only major difference is that you receive arg1, arg2, arg3 as proper arguments to your methods, not globals." |
| 15:22.50 | [Ammo] | aha |
| 15:22.50 | Mikma | Tain: true :D and can't hibernate/soothe ;) |
| 15:23.09 | Wobin | As a rogue, though, I can bandage like a champ! =) |
| 15:23.32 | Tain | I don't know as much about Warlocks, but even if a Druid can outdps someone else, we probably still need him to do something that no one else can do. |
| 15:23.48 | Wobin | Hehe, like that shadow priest we had on a Mara run who wanted to shadowheal on Landslide cause he said he could 'outdps' me =) |
| 15:24.01 | Kebinusan | heh yeah |
| 15:24.18 | Wobin | "Rightio, I'll stand here and bandage you while you get hit, then!" |
| 15:24.42 | Neronix | Speaking of shadow priests, I'd like to see more people with vampiric embrace |
| 15:24.52 | Tain | And the Warlock who was super DPS guy bragged that he pulled aggro off of a Warrior. |
| 15:25.02 | Tain | Honestly if I were an officer I would have guildremoved him right there. |
| 15:25.04 | Wobin | I would too, but my raiding group isn't big enough to not need the priests as uberhealers |
| 15:25.13 | Tain | Since that's just a raid wipe waiting to happen. |
| 15:25.16 | Wobin | Tain: That's -not- a good thing =P |
| 15:25.17 | Kebinusan | hahah |
| 15:25.19 | Neronix | Last SM run I did with a (now former) guildy priest, the only healing that was necessary was vampirirc embrace |
| 15:25.24 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 15:25.25 | Kebinusan | I brag how much dps I can do w/o pulling aggro |
| 15:25.27 | Neronix | Because I was doing crazy damage |
| 15:25.29 | Wobin | Neronix: Yeah, same =) |
| 15:25.39 | Wobin | That was fun |
| 15:25.45 | Neronix | (And making sure all the mobs had tongues and recklessness on) |
| 15:25.46 | Tain | Neronix: I actually think you can run most 5 man instances with almost any party makeup. |
| 15:25.50 | Mikma | Tain: oh oh, innervate and combatress |
| 15:25.51 | Wobin | Although later on my guildmate switched to prayer of healing =P |
| 15:26.09 | Tain | People are still hungup on priests and warriors, but changing it up a bit makes things a hell of a lot of fun. |
| 15:26.12 | MoonWolf | does warlock damage count for vampiric embrace ? |
| 15:26.19 | Neronix | Yeah, it's shadow |
| 15:26.28 | Wobin | I've done a mara purple run with myself as a rogue, a mage, warlock and a hunter |
| 15:26.32 | Wobin | No |
| 15:26.32 | Kebinusan | no only shadow damage done by the caster |
| 15:26.36 | Neronix | Any shadow damage triggers it |
| 15:26.38 | Wobin | Only damage by the caster |
| 15:26.38 | Neronix | Oh? |
| 15:26.47 | Neronix | There goes my argument >.> |
| 15:26.50 | Kebinusan | not to mention shadow priests are the worst debuff slot abusers |
| 15:26.55 | Tain | Also, I want to know who exactly this person is talking about when it comes to people misusing fireworks: |
| 15:26.56 | Kebinusan | well behind warriors |
| 15:26.56 | Tain | "It's teenagers having bottle rocket wars, parents giving sparklers to 2-year-olds and people having too much to drink and putting firecrackers up their nose." |
| 15:26.59 | Wobin | You can get shadowboost from the shadowweakness debuff, though |
| 15:27.22 | Neronix | Well, in that case, forget shadowpriests :P |
| 15:27.25 | MoonWolf | the shadowweaving is no waste of a debuff slot. |
| 15:27.32 | Wobin | Not a waste at all! |
| 15:27.35 | Tain | I've been known to have a drink or two in my day. But never have I contemplated putting a firecracker up my nose. |
| 15:27.37 | Wobin | 15% shadow damage?! |
| 15:27.39 | Wobin | Hello? |
| 15:27.39 | MoonWolf | 15% more damage for your warlocks is not waste. |
| 15:27.44 | Neronix | Shadoweaving? |
| 15:27.46 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:27.55 | Mikma | 5/5 shadowweaving rocks |
| 15:28.01 | Neronix | This a new priest talent? |
| 15:28.04 | MoonWolf | no |
| 15:28.05 | Wobin | on application of -any- shadow spell adds a debuff |
| 15:28.06 | Mikma | i know as shadowpriest how much warlocks love the feature |
| 15:28.07 | Wobin | not at all |
| 15:28.07 | MoonWolf | this is an old one. |
| 15:28.11 | Neronix | Ah |
| 15:28.18 | Mikma | Neronix: it's basic shadowtalent |
| 15:28.25 | Wobin | I used to spam SW:P rank 1 to both proc blackout and shadowweave |
| 15:28.28 | MoonWolf | shadowpriest + warlock is best synergy in the game. |
| 15:28.32 | Neronix | Well in that case, bring at least 1 shadowpriest to a raid or you're gimping DPS |
| 15:28.35 | Wobin | MoonWolf: Agreed |
| 15:28.52 | Mikma | when you put the shadowweaving 5/5 it's 100% change to get shadowweacing on target when casting shadowspell |
| 15:29.01 | Mikma | and it stacks 5x = 15% more shadowdamage |
| 15:29.02 | Amadeo | I hate "login failure" on the forums...why don't they just say "we broke our login server again" |
| 15:29.05 | MoonWolf | i think we are talking about 30% extra damage not counting the resistance lowering. |
| 15:29.10 | Wobin | Mikma: aye =) Which is why I was tossing out SW:P Rank 1 =) |
| 15:29.20 | Kebinusan | yeah but warlocks are mostly pushing aggro limits on aggro sensitive fights as it is |
| 15:29.22 | Wobin | MoonWolf: With Curse of Shadows |
| 15:29.23 | MoonWolf | and not counting the improved shadowbolt proc either. |
| 15:29.32 | Wobin | Although that's not precisely the same |
| 15:29.41 | Wobin | since it drops the target's shadow resist |
| 15:29.45 | Wobin | I think |
| 15:29.51 | Mikma | Wobin: yeah :D that's the best way of stacking it up fast |
| 15:29.54 | MoonWolf | and adds a a % od extra damage |
| 15:29.56 | Amadeo | SW:P damage is ridiculously high on Shadow Priests |
| 15:30.01 | MoonWolf | because it wont drop it to negative anymore. |
| 15:30.10 | Wobin | It's the best DoT there is =) |
| 15:30.18 | Neronix | CoS + Shadoweaving + sacced succy + Trinkets = :O |
| 15:30.22 | Wobin | Luckily for the 'locks, it's the only one we have |
| 15:30.27 | Kebinusan | = deadlock |
| 15:30.29 | Amadeo | 52 Priest was doing 212 damage per tick |
| 15:30.33 | Wobin | Neronix Sac/res'd Succy =) |
| 15:30.35 | Amadeo | that's a bit high imo :P |
| 15:30.37 | Mikma | oh boy how the warlocks loved my priest when i was still shadow in my last guidd |
| 15:30.47 | Mikma | every warlock was against that i have to turn to holy |
| 15:30.47 | Neronix | Wobin: I've never met anyone with jumper cables :P |
| 15:30.51 | Wobin | I have |
| 15:30.51 | Kebinusan | actually as far as best talent, improved SW:P is crazy |
| 15:30.59 | Wobin | Although I can res the demon as a priest |
| 15:30.59 | Kebinusan | its like a 23% improvement in the dot |
| 15:31.04 | Wobin | You just have to be fast enough |
| 15:31.06 | Tain | haha love goblin jumper cables. |
| 15:31.10 | Amadeo | Jumper cables work like 1% of the time |
| 15:31.11 | Wobin | and have minimal latency |
| 15:31.20 | MoonWolf | Amadeo, make that 25% |
| 15:31.21 | Kebinusan | I havent tried that demonic sac/res pet thing |
| 15:31.23 | Tain | Yeah but they're great anyway! |
| 15:31.29 | Kebinusan | I keep waiting for them to fix it |
| 15:31.38 | Mikma | Wobin: oh yeah and i could do shitloads of shadowdamage at vael' when we raided him ;) |
| 15:31.49 | Amadeo | MoonWolf: Well, 25% in the case of Orc stun resist, which is actually about 99%? Or true 25% which feels more like 1%? :P |
| 15:31.52 | Wobin | And MindFlay rocks |
| 15:31.58 | Mikma | i milked SW:P best rank on him in shadowform and used mindblast + mindflay |
| 15:32.01 | Neronix | Wobin: Ah, I thought priests were too slow |
| 15:32.14 | Wobin | Neronix: Nah, it's close though |
| 15:32.16 | MoonWolf | shadowdamage it might look like a dot damage type, but in secrecy, it has the best nukes in the game. |
| 15:32.17 | Mikma | when our groups other priest was exploded i replaced him |
| 15:32.18 | Kebinusan | damage per mana of a priest sucks though |
| 15:32.27 | Neronix | Anyways, I need to hurry the fuck up and level |
| 15:32.36 | Wobin | Kebinusan: true |
| 15:32.45 | Neronix | No point talking about the cool stuff I can do when I hit 60 when I'm only lv 44 >.> |
| 15:32.54 | Mikma | MoonWolf: best nukes? like what? |
| 15:33.03 | Wobin | shadowburn? |
| 15:33.16 | MoonWolf | shadowbolt when fully debuffed. |
| 15:33.22 | Wobin | Ah yeah |
| 15:33.30 | Mikma | hmm well yeah |
| 15:33.38 | Neronix | dmg gear helps the dots too |
| 15:33.42 | Wobin | Hehe, my friend was trying out his +shadow gear. |
| 15:33.53 | Wobin | He could drop two ranks worth of bolt for the damage he was doing |
| 15:33.57 | Neronix | Corruption and CoA are insane for me |
| 15:33.59 | Mikma | yeah shadowbolt buffed is really the best dps spell, |
| 15:34.13 | Neronix | Same with drain life and siphon - and they only take half the bonus |
| 15:34.13 | Kebinusan | yeah same Neronix, Im really tempted to go SM/DS for a week |
| 15:34.15 | Wobin | each bolt hit for 800 |
| 15:34.18 | Kebinusan | just for the crazy dot ticks |
| 15:34.25 | Neronix | I get a net gain of health when draintanking an even level elite |
| 15:34.29 | MoonWolf | firebolt has nothing on a fully buffed shadowbolt, to bad naxx has lots of shadow resistance on some mobs. |
| 15:34.29 | Wobin | or maybe 900 |
| 15:34.38 | Neronix | Er, net loss of like 20hp per hit |
| 15:35.04 | Wobin | I need to level more |
| 15:35.08 | Wobin | *grindgrindgrind* |
| 15:35.09 | MoonWolf | it was super crazy in the times of negative resisting crits! |
| 15:35.25 | MoonWolf | 6k damage .... oops. |
| 15:35.25 | Mikma | really, what's the best tactic on grinding with warlock? |
| 15:35.34 | Wobin | draintanking |
| 15:35.36 | Mikma | my friend did warlock and wasn't able to level it fast |
| 15:35.37 | Neronix | 31 points in affliction |
| 15:35.48 | Wobin | Neronix: Not really necessary |
| 15:35.51 | MoonWolf | Mikma, you can go for the draintaking or my favourite, fear dots. |
| 15:35.53 | Mikma | i told him later to always send pet in first |
| 15:35.54 | Neronix | Dark pact |
| 15:35.55 | Neronix | IMBA |
| 15:35.58 | Kebinusan | my corruption ticks for ~269 when Im spec'd for shadow mastery |
| 15:36.07 | Wobin | Feardots is situational though |
| 15:36.08 | Mikma | MoonWolf: feardots is freaking annoying in BG :D |
| 15:36.14 | Mikma | i really hate it lol |
| 15:36.18 | Wobin | Mikma: Agreed =) |
| 15:36.19 | MoonWolf | we were talking about grinding.... |
| 15:36.24 | Neronix | Fear seems to break a lot easier now |
| 15:36.29 | Wobin | Mikma: In a duel, I couldn't even get a hit in |
| 15:36.30 | Kebinusan | dark pact is nutty for grinding |
| 15:36.35 | MoonWolf | fear takes in to account +damage gear now. |
| 15:36.45 | Neronix | Yeah |
| 15:36.54 | MoonWolf | and thats is a good change |
| 15:36.54 | Neronix | Dark pact = nil downtime |
| 15:36.55 | Mikma | i thought fear is harder to break now |
| 15:36.57 | Wobin | Neronix: True =) Draintanking with a succy |
| 15:37.02 | MoonWolf | I was suprised it wasnt like that to begin with. |
| 15:37.17 | Wobin | Neronix: Technically there's downtime when you fire off the DP |
| 15:37.43 | Neronix | Wobin: Do it while skinning/looting, while running or while sending the succy in for the next pull |
| 15:37.51 | Wobin | There's a good thread on the Warlock board about this |
| 15:38.05 | Neronix | Mikma: Turn your succy's skills off, send her in, manually do lash of pain, put corruption and siphon on, spam SB until it's in melee range, drain life, loot. |
| 15:38.09 | Neronix | Rinse, lather and repeat |
| 15:38.13 | Amadeo | The only thing the Fear change did was make Fear break less |
| 15:38.24 | Amadeo | It lasts almost full duration with DoTs up now |
| 15:38.28 | Mikma | Neronix: sounds complicated :D |
| 15:38.31 | Amadeo | and still breaks on 1 bolt as it used to |
| 15:38.31 | MoonWolf | Amadeo, for dots that is |
| 15:38.33 | MoonWolf | not for nukes. |
| 15:38.33 | Mikma | thank god i'm not a warlock |
| 15:38.39 | Amadeo | MoonWolf: It always broke on a bolt |
| 15:38.46 | Neronix | Mikma: Not really. Takes about 10 mins to get used to it |
| 15:38.47 | Kebinusan | it used to break on dots all the time |
| 15:38.49 | Amadeo | maybe in some *rare* case it wouldn't break on the first shadowbolt |
| 15:38.52 | MoonWolf | Mikma, warlocks are not THAT hard. |
| 15:38.52 | Kebinusan | I havent really tested it lately |
| 15:39.05 | MoonWolf | its just that you dont have 3 skills and thats it. |
| 15:39.12 | MoonWolf | like a rogue and a hunter |
| 15:39.21 | MoonWolf | and i get to say that because i have all three classes. |
| 15:39.24 | Mikma | MoonWolf: DoT SP SP SP SP SP DoT |
| 15:39.34 | Amadeo | Kebinusan: You can almost count on 15 seconds with full DoTs up now |
| 15:39.38 | MoonWolf | SP ? |
| 15:39.43 | Wobin | CS+SnD+SS+SS+SS+SS+SS+Evisc |
| 15:39.44 | Amadeo | Searing Pain |
| 15:39.47 | Kebinusan | wow |
| 15:39.50 | Mikma | oh lol |
| 15:39.53 | Kebinusan | ... if thats the case... |
| 15:39.53 | Mikma | sb not sp |
| 15:39.56 | Kebinusan | talk about imba |
| 15:39.59 | MoonWolf | who the hell grinds with searing pain ? |
| 15:40.10 | Mikma | let's try this hehe |
| 15:40.14 | Mikma | MoonWolf: DoT SP SP SP SP SP DoT |
| 15:40.18 | Mikma | s/SP/SB/ |
| 15:40.21 | Neronix | Nice way to quickly finish off a mob if it's not worth draining or SBing |
| 15:40.22 | Amadeo | Kebinusan: That's how it was on Test at least, and those Warlocks had a lot of +damage gear |
| 15:40.24 | Neronix | or DCing |
| 15:40.25 | Mikma | hah xD |
| 15:40.25 | Wobin | hehe |
| 15:41.04 | Kebinusan | yeah those ptr locks were almost like my main |
| 15:41.32 | MoonWolf | I prefer Send felpuppy, immolate while puppy walks to mod, corruption, CoA, Fear, wand, redo immolate, wand more. |
| 15:41.47 | Mikma | wand wand wand wand |
| 15:42.17 | Mikma | when i "grinded" with holy build it was something like SW:P, mindblast, wand, wand, fear rank1, wand wand wand mindblast |
| 15:42.34 | Mikma | oh and sometimes PW:S and Starfire |
| 15:42.39 | Wobin | CoA before Corruption, though |
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| 15:43.04 | Neronix | Mikma: Never buy Rank =>2 of drain soul and curse of recklessness btw |
| 15:43.14 | Neronix | Waste of money and mana |
| 15:43.19 | MoonWolf | Mikma, with my lvl 20 priest i do, Holy nova, SW:P, mindblast, shield, wand. |
| 15:43.22 | Kebinusan | actually even with over 650 plus damage gear and no talents in improved voidwalker, I can go all out shadowbolt spamming and not steal aggro if my Fetish of the sandreaver is up |
| 15:43.24 | Wobin | Neronix: Why's that? |
| 15:43.33 | Amadeo | Neronix: Lower rank spells have a higher chance of resisting on higher level targets |
| 15:43.34 | Kebinusan | yeah I only use rank1 drain soul |
| 15:43.40 | Kebinusan | not true Amadeo |
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| 15:43.46 | Amadeo | Kebinusan: They did that a while back |
| 15:43.51 | Mikma | haven't seen that happen |
| 15:43.53 | Amadeo | So people couldn't use rank 1 for everything |
| 15:43.54 | Neronix | Amadeo: They have never, ever resisted for me |
| 15:44.00 | MoonWolf | nobody uses anything but rank 1 drain soul. |
| 15:44.15 | Wobin | It's not supposed to be a damage dealing spell =P |
| 15:44.21 | Wobin | merely a utility one |
| 15:44.21 | Kebinusan | yeah same I use rank 6 shadowbolts in raids sometimes |
| 15:44.38 | Kebinusan | because of the higher damage per mana |
| 15:44.41 | Neronix | Wobin: Drain soul's damage sucks. Save yourself mana. Curse of Recklessness' armor lowering isn't worth it unless you're in a 40man raid wtih rogues hitting like they mean it |
| 15:44.56 | Wobin | oh yeah |
| 15:45.01 | Wobin | CoR =) |
| 15:45.16 | Wobin | I've heard warlocks useing it to 'lower their aggro' =) |
| 15:45.16 | Amadeo | Depends how you're using it, if you're trying to get a shard off a player and you're on your own, sometimes you need the extra damage to finish them off |
| 15:45.28 | Kebinusan | rank 1 drain soul is 55 mana vs 290 for the highest rank |
| 15:45.33 | Kebinusan | so its quite a mana saver |
| 15:45.39 | Wobin | (basically by raising the aggro of everyone else in the raid =P) |
| 15:45.56 | Amadeo | Most players will gouge/silence/etc if they see you trying to get a shard |
| 15:46.08 | Kebinusan | not to mention with CoR, some bosses that have an enrage or frenzy .. it multiplies attack power |
| 15:46.16 | MoonWolf | CoR is usefull for running humanoids |
| 15:46.23 | MoonWolf | and before rainding, nothing else |
| 15:46.32 | MoonWolf | CoW is sometimes usefull on cat pets. |
| 15:46.46 | Wobin | low damage fast attack? |
| 15:46.50 | Neronix | Yeah |
| 15:46.51 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 15:46.54 | Wobin | They'll still interrupt though |
| 15:46.57 | Neronix | And rogues too, kinda |
| 15:46.59 | Wobin | well, slowdown |
| 15:47.12 | Amadeo | Rogues usually only hit you once though |
| 15:47.14 | MoonWolf | Neronix, only for the SnD types |
| 15:47.17 | Amadeo | the opening stun :P |
| 15:47.19 | Wobin | Neronix: I dunno, most white damage for rogues is pretty high |
| 15:47.22 | Neronix | Which is why I said Kinda |
| 15:47.23 | MoonWolf | the backstab and combat rogues dont even notice. |
| 15:47.29 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:47.36 | Wobin | My white damage is half my damage applied |
| 15:47.38 | Kebinusan | it mitigates most of the offhand damage |
| 15:47.53 | Neronix | Cat mobs and pets become useless with CoW on |
| 15:48.01 | Neronix | except for the interrupting, as Wobin mentioned |
| 15:48.03 | MoonWolf | a 40dps offhand sword on a combat spec rogues hits for high damage. |
| 15:48.07 | *** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-66-176-173-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 15:48.21 | mjc | mornin |
| 15:48.26 | Neronix | And I'm still talking when I should be grinding -_- |
| 15:48.26 | MoonWolf | morning. |
| 15:48.29 | Neronix | Morning |
| 15:48.29 | Wobin | and if it procs, they get an extra strike in from the onhand |
| 15:48.39 | Kebinusan | of course rogues are going to be a different beast next patch |
| 15:48.41 | MoonWolf | and the mainhand HURTS |
| 15:48.42 | Wobin | hehe |
| 15:48.55 | MoonWolf | as its usually the highest damage range weapon they can find. |
| 15:48.56 | Wobin | I love macespec though |
| 15:49.00 | MoonWolf | like a 3.6 mace. |
| 15:49.02 | Wobin | the stunproc is priceless |
| 15:49.08 | Mikma | well, about druids. i like the,! |
| 15:49.12 | Wobin | saved my arse plenty of times |
| 15:49.19 | Mikma | s/the,/them/ |
| 15:49.47 | MoonWolf | i want a proc for rogues like the hunter proc on aspect of the hawk. |
| 15:49.56 | MoonWolf | 30% free attack speed. |
| 15:49.57 | Wobin | auto snd? |
| 15:50.00 | Mikma | it's different enough to keep my interest on |
| 15:50.17 | Amadeo | MoonWolf: Rogues got everything in 1.11! |
| 15:50.25 | MoonWolf | but not that! |
| 15:50.26 | Wobin | Amadeo: They'll get even more 1.12 |
| 15:50.29 | Amadeo | er |
| 15:50.31 | Amadeo | I meant 1.12 |
| 15:50.32 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:50.35 | Neronix | Rogues get nerfed in 1.12 |
| 15:50.39 | Neronix | Watch :P |
| 15:50.41 | Wobin | *crai* |
| 15:50.42 | MoonWolf | and we are still waiting on the way they are going to improve evisc and rupture damage. |
| 15:50.51 | Kebinusan | Im waiting for a few more of the nerfs |
| 15:50.56 | Kebinusan | the kidney shot nerf is nice though |
| 15:50.57 | Wobin | Hopefully with a spurting blood animation |
| 15:51.02 | Neronix | The world will be turned upside down for 3 months while rogues rule the world |
| 15:51.14 | MoonWolf | kebunisan... weird neft you have in mind. |
| 15:51.30 | MoonWolf | no more reduced energy cost..... |
| 15:51.33 | Neronix | and any cookie-cutter-"zomg! I cen pown pplz two lal!" dumbass who HASNT roleld a rogue will roll one |
| 15:51.37 | MoonWolf | like that matters much if you can get extra damage. |
| 15:51.39 | Amadeo | Good Rogues can already beat almost all classes |
| 15:51.40 | Kebinusan | Well imp kidneyshot no longer has a reduced cooldown |
| 15:51.41 | Neronix | and terrorise their own faction |
| 15:51.50 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4043 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: |
| 15:51.50 | CIA-7 | WitchHunt: |
| 15:51.50 | CIA-7 | * Tested and working version. |
| 15:51.50 | CIA-7 | * Only uses the UIErrorsframe |
| 15:51.51 | CIA-7 | * Only options are combatonly and targetonly |
| 15:51.53 | Kebinusan | which means it will impossible to keep a person stunlocked |
| 15:52.02 | Amadeo | Improved Kidney Shot will now increase Rogue damage |
| 15:52.04 | Amadeo | so.. |
| 15:52.09 | Amadeo | it's like the same thing! |
| 15:52.22 | MoonWolf | your taking more damage, so you dont have to be stunned as long. |
| 15:52.42 | Tem_ | they announce the rogue changes? |
| 15:52.47 | MoonWolf | yep |
| 15:52.48 | Amadeo | MoonWolf: Right |
| 15:52.55 | Amadeo | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=1271292&p=1&tmp=1#post1271292 |
| 15:52.58 | Wobin | And you're not only taking more damage from the rogue, but fron anyone else hitting you |
| 15:53.05 | MoonWolf | besides, i alway's was a fan of the combat rogue |
| 15:53.09 | MoonWolf | fuck stunlocking |
| 15:53.14 | MoonWolf | here i come 0/30/21 |
| 15:53.16 | Amadeo | Combat Rogue is my favorite also |
| 15:53.19 | Amadeo | even in PvP |
| 15:53.20 | MoonWolf | where is my huge damage mace! |
| 15:53.21 | Wobin | Hehe I can almost manage stunlock on maceproc alone sometimes |
| 15:53.27 | Neronix | haste_! |
| 15:53.34 | Wobin | MoonWolf: The Punisher =P |
| 15:53.39 | Neronix | haste_: UnitFrames.lua:491: attempt to compare number with ni |
| 15:54.09 | Mikma | omfg those roguechanges rock |
| 15:54.18 | MoonWolf | cheapshot, hemo hemo, kidneyshot , hemo some more. |
| 15:54.21 | MoonWolf | wait, don't die yet |
| 15:54.25 | MoonWolf | i was only getting started. |
| 15:54.29 | Kebinusan | they better normalize hemo too |
| 15:54.30 | Wobin | http://wow.allakhazam.com/dyn/items/wname4.html |
| 15:54.34 | Mikma | imp sprint..... |
| 15:54.40 | Mikma | nerf that really! |
| 15:54.47 | mjc | hum |
| 15:54.49 | MoonWolf | Kebinusan, in that case, they better take that whole ability out. |
| 15:54.56 | mjc | frylistdkp is a nice idea |
| 15:54.57 | Amadeo | As my Warrior, I always save my trinket for Kidney Shot, so maybe it'll help me more |
| 15:55.26 | MoonWolf | most rogues are currently whinng how most dagger specs dont get improved. |
| 15:55.27 | MoonWolf | its funny |
| 15:55.29 | Mikma | Expose Armor will now reduce armor by a percentage. |
| 15:55.32 | MoonWolf | i laugh at them a lot |
| 15:55.35 | Mikma | aye that's lovely |
| 15:55.44 | mjc | Mikma: drool |
| 15:55.58 | Wobin | Mikma: I hope that stacks with whatsit, the warrior skill |
| 15:55.58 | Mikma | MoonWolf: why daggers while you can use swords/maces |
| 15:56.02 | Tain | Actually Expose Armor won't matter how much it does if it still blocks Sunder. |
| 15:56.09 | Wobin | Sunder thassit |
| 15:56.14 | Mikma | Wobin: sunder armor |
| 15:56.26 | Tain | Expose Armor could do 100% redux and you couldn't use it if it blocks Sunder. |
| 15:56.29 | Kebinusan | it should stack in its new form |
| 15:56.40 | Kebinusan | because they are no longer the same effect |
| 15:56.43 | CIA-7 | 03neronix * r4044 10Lexan/Lexan.lua: Lexan - Fixed error |
| 15:56.45 | Tain | Hopefully! |
| 15:56.50 | Tain | I'll believe it when I see it though. |
| 15:57.06 | Tem_ | wow |
| 15:57.08 | Wobin | Hehe that would be so deadly |
| 15:57.09 | Mikma | i really like expose armor when i play against elite targets |
| 15:57.10 | Tem_ | nice changes to sub rogues |
| 15:57.12 | Tain | And Dagger specs could be increased a lot depending on the upgrade to damage they're talking with SS |
| 15:57.16 | Tain | And Evis |
| 15:57.17 | Tem_ | so sorry for stunlock rogues |
| 15:57.18 | Amadeo | Backstab/Ambush is overrated, you can get more damage just using SS/Hemo |
| 15:57.26 | MoonWolf | nice changes for most rogues. |
| 15:57.34 | Tem_ | oh shit |
| 15:57.38 | Tem_ | I'm gonna be late for work |
| 15:57.42 | MoonWolf | and anybody who whines about no pve improvements doesnt understand how weapons skill will help. |
| 15:57.46 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.52 | Tain | Amadeo it depends on crits. Average damage probably yeah. |
| 15:58.05 | Amadeo | Tain: Yeah, but at 60 and decent gear, Rogues crit almost every hit! |
| 15:58.09 | Tain | But a lot of Rogues have insanely high crit rates which helps burst. |
| 15:58.30 | Kebinusan | well the real difference is if the rogue keeps slice and dice up or not |
| 15:58.33 | Tain | But the crit on SS is static damage, crits on % damage can go higher. |
| 15:58.35 | Wobin | I like CheapShot cause I can just wander up to a mob from any direction |
| 15:58.41 | Kebinusan | that makes a huge dps difference from the white damage alone |
| 15:58.59 | Amadeo | But Ambush/Backstab uses 60 energy, which is more than two improved Sinister Strikes use |
| 15:59.05 | Wobin | CS+ SnD+SS(or Hemo)+etcetc |
| 15:59.10 | Wobin | Evisc |
| 15:59.14 | Wobin | SS+SS+SnD |
| 15:59.17 | Wobin | repeat |
| 15:59.19 | mjc | Wobin: rupture |
| 15:59.23 | Tain | It just depends how much burst damage you need. |
| 15:59.27 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 15:59.35 | Kebinusan | mjc, stay away from my debuff slots |
| 15:59.38 | MoonWolf | I onlu use rupture agains plate and mail. |
| 15:59.47 | MoonWolf | only* |
| 15:59.51 | mjc | Kebinusan: max dps =P |
| 15:59.51 | Tain | Dagger specs need improved Backstab damage though, right now it really is pretty bad. |
| 15:59.52 | Wobin | Garotte to start off those unstunnable mobs |
| 15:59.59 | Wobin | eg elites |
| 16:00.08 | Amadeo | I always liked to hit Mages with CS and get a Gouge off before or during the Blink, though |
| 16:00.10 | Tain | Ug Garotte.. I can't see using it. |
| 16:00.24 | mjc | I usually garotte, snd, ss, rupture, spam ss |
| 16:00.32 | mjc | I don't pvp at all :p |
| 16:00.41 | Amadeo | mjc: I think you're the only Rogue in the game that uses Garrote |
| 16:00.42 | MoonWolf | garotte, you are better of ambushing with a bad dagger then using garrote |
| 16:00.43 | Amadeo | ! |
| 16:00.50 | Tain | Backstab IX is so horrible too, just saw it for the first time today. What a piss poor upgrade to be as a raid drop. |
| 16:00.57 | Wobin | Well, I don't BS =) |
| 16:01.05 | mjc | it proves to be very useful when you can't CS |
| 16:01.11 | Wobin | Since I haven't bothered getting a macro/thingie to change weapons on unstealting |
| 16:01.12 | mjc | and the cooldown on switching weapons isn't worth it |
| 16:01.12 | Mikma | well no matter what rogues can still do shitloads of dps if they have proper gear |
| 16:01.13 | CIA-7 | 03neronix 07otravi * r4045 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Fixed line 491 error when using mobhealth2 |
| 16:01.23 | Tain | Most of the time I just Cheap Shot when the asshole turns towards me at the last minute. |
| 16:01.35 | MoonWolf | every rogue should have a weapon switcher and a dagger(decent one not epic or anything) for those situations where he can take advantage of a good ambush or backstab. |
| 16:01.35 | Mikma | and being backstabbed/stunlocked by epic-gear rogue can hurt alot for cloth users |
| 16:01.40 | Neronix | haste_: Fixed |
| 16:01.42 | Amadeo | Tain: Don't most of those spell/skill upgrades suck? They're very minimal |
| 16:01.49 | Wobin | MoonWolf: Have a suggestion as to which addon to use? |
| 16:01.53 | Tain | Or if I'm soloing something big that I know I'm going ot need a couple full SS cycles of. |
| 16:02.08 | MoonWolf | not currently, quickweaponswap and stancesets was what i used. |
| 16:02.14 | MoonWolf | when i played my rogue. |
| 16:02.16 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4482-1-mikscrollingbattletext.html |
| 16:02.17 | mjc | Mikma: I have crappy daggers and I'm 20/31/0 swords and I can still 2shot most mages :p |
| 16:02.18 | Mikma | holy crap! |
| 16:02.37 | Mikma | mjc: exactly :) |
| 16:02.43 | Tain | Maybe Amadeo, but it's like a 15 point damage upgrade. Static damage. |
| 16:02.55 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4046 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: |
| 16:02.55 | CIA-7 | WitchHunt: |
| 16:02.55 | CIA-7 | * .toc update |
| 16:03.01 | Amadeo | Mikma: it's a new SCT type mod? |
| 16:03.07 | Mikma | Amadeo: looks like it |
| 16:03.16 | Amadeo | hm |
| 16:03.25 | mjc | should be aced. |
| 16:03.29 | Mikma | agreed |
| 16:03.30 | mjc | molest the author |
| 16:03.33 | Wobin | Hm, I wonder if I could build it into GonffBAr =P |
| 16:03.37 | MoonWolf | time for dinner |
| 16:03.38 | Amadeo | I'm surprised someone would challenge the throne |
| 16:03.43 | mjc | Wobin: gogogo |
| 16:03.51 | mjc | I hate SCT |
| 16:03.53 | Wobin | mjc: It's a little out of scope though =P |
| 16:04.18 | Wobin | (I was talking about the weaponswap) |
| 16:04.19 | mjc | Wobin: so make AceCT and build in some support in gonffbar |
| 16:04.21 | mjc | oh |
| 16:04.25 | Mikma | boo |
| 16:04.31 | mjc | Wobin: just add wardrobe support |
| 16:04.35 | Mikma | wobin codes aced SCT gogo |
| 16:04.40 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r4047 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: |
| 16:04.41 | CIA-7 | WitchHunt: |
| 16:04.41 | CIA-7 | * Fixed line 169 gfind nil error |
| 16:04.45 | Wobin | Is it really needed though? |
| 16:04.48 | Amadeo | but damn |
| 16:04.55 | Amadeo | I use SCT_SpellAlert now |
| 16:05.03 | Amadeo | and I can't use WitchHunt, because Ammo is breaking it!!! |
| 16:05.06 | Amadeo | ;) |
| 16:05.08 | mjc | Amadeo: works for me |
| 16:05.08 | [Ammo] | it's working now! |
| 16:05.12 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 16:05.13 | sedatedChipmunk | witchhunt is <3 |
| 16:05.21 | mjc | Wobin: set 'daggers' and set 'swords' :p |
| 16:05.21 | [Ammo] | but has less features though atm |
| 16:05.28 | mjc | my mainhand is a mace atm =( |
| 16:05.34 | Amadeo | mjc: You're using the Ace2 WitchHunt already? |
| 16:05.40 | Tain | I loved levelling with maces though. |
| 16:05.41 | Tain | It was fun. |
| 16:05.46 | Wobin | Tain: Agreed =) |
| 16:05.47 | mjc | Amadeo: zoning in =) |
| 16:05.50 | Amadeo | haha |
| 16:05.53 | Wobin | Thunkathunkathunkathunka |
| 16:05.59 | [Ammo] | mjc: I suggest updating to 4047 :p |
| 16:06.04 | Tain | Raiding you sort of have to use either swords or daggers though. |
| 16:06.10 | [Ammo] | unless you ddon't intend to fight hostiles |
| 16:06.15 | Amadeo | I'm gonna try out this new combat thingy |
| 16:06.16 | Kebinusan | so here is the question, MikScrollingBattleText... does it use less memory than sct |
| 16:06.26 | mjc | ammo: it is already |
| 16:06.27 | Mikma | Kebinusan: test it and tell us :) |
| 16:06.29 | Wobin | ask in the other channel =P |
| 16:06.31 | Wobin | Mikk's there |
| 16:06.36 | mjc | Kebinusan: finding out :) |
| 16:06.46 | Kebinusan | yeah was just about to actually |
| 16:06.53 | Amadeo | Kebinusan: Tell him to Ace2 it |
| 16:06.54 | Amadeo | gogogo |
| 16:06.55 | Amadeo | :D |
| 16:07.11 | Kebinusan | what? its not done in ace? well then only 1 star for you |
| 16:07.28 | Kebinusan | <g> |
| 16:07.29 | Amadeo | Mikma: You just like it because it has "Mik" in it |
| 16:07.39 | Mikma | Amadeo: of course |
| 16:07.45 | mjc | Amadeo: lol |
| 16:08.11 | mjc | Kebinusan: it's not aced? reported as a hack! |
| 16:08.20 | Wobin | And that's -never- good! |
| 16:08.35 | Neronix | lol |
| 16:08.39 | Mikma | oh loooool, id has released his unitframes on svn |
| 16:08.41 | Neronix | that joke will -never- die |
| 16:09.18 | Mikma | i just had to pop in to look what's going on in there |
| 16:09.47 | Wobin | not too much atm =P |
| 16:09.59 | *** join/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce1.disney.com) |
| 16:10.08 | mjc | Ratbert_CP has arrived! |
| 16:10.09 | mjc | :D |
| 16:10.22 | Ratbert_CP | Alert the media! |
| 16:10.23 | Neronix | And he's wrote his own parser rather than using parser lib |
| 16:10.27 | Neronix | Automagic 5/5 |
| 16:10.28 | Ratbert_CP | Shoot the paparazzi! |
| 16:10.34 | mjc | haha |
| 16:11.05 | Ratbert_CP | Wasn't that a Shakespeare line? "First thing we do, we kill all the paparazzi."? |
| 16:11.08 | Amadeo | Mikma: Not under branch anymore? |
| 16:11.30 | Mikma | Amadeo: what? |
| 16:11.33 | [Ammo] | I like his function names: |
| 16:11.34 | [Ammo] | function MikCEL_ParseForOutgoingPetSpellHitsAndMisses(combatMessage) |
| 16:11.39 | [Ammo] | zomg how long can you get |
| 16:11.41 | Ratbert_CP | Or was that a Pizza Hut's add? "One large paparazzi lovers for only $8.99" |
| 16:11.42 | Wobin | Descriptive =) |
| 16:11.46 | Wobin | Better than Rowne's =P |
| 16:11.49 | Amadeo | haha |
| 16:11.49 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 16:11.53 | Amadeo | Mikma: For oUF2 |
| 16:11.54 | [Ammo] | I like the middleway |
| 16:12.09 | Neronix | Rowne: mcel:pfopsham(cm) |
| 16:12.15 | Neronix | Seriously |
| 16:12.15 | Mikma | Amadeo: umh, dunno haven't checked lately, ask haste :) |
| 16:12.22 | Ratbert_CP | Neronix: Drop the vowels. |
| 16:12.29 | Neronix | oh yeah! |
| 16:12.35 | Amadeo | Mikma: Oops, you said "id", I'm confusing myself |
| 16:12.39 | Neronix | mcl:pfpshm(cm) |
| 16:12.47 | Ratbert_CP | And with only one parameter, why waste a byte? |
| 16:12.54 | Neronix | m |
| 16:13.07 | Neronix | and while we're at it, remove those useless consonants |
| 16:13.09 | Neronix | :() |
| 16:13.09 | Mikma | Amadeo: that's ok it's allowed to be confused in here |
| 16:13.13 | Neronix | PERFECT! |
| 16:13.16 | [Ammo] | m:p(c) |
| 16:13.18 | Amadeo | :D |
| 16:13.26 | Ratbert_CP | I kinda like :() |
| 16:13.37 | Mikma | function :() |
| 16:13.41 | Ratbert_CP | That's how I usually look, reading Rowne's code... |
| 16:13.46 | Neronix | No wait, it isn't quite right |
| 16:13.50 | Ratbert_CP | Well... :()~ |
| 16:13.51 | Neronix | :(...) |
| 16:13.53 | Neronix | PERFECT! |
| 16:14.01 | Neronix | you can't forget the ...! |
| 16:14.02 | [Ammo] | he keeps redeclaring his locals |
| 16:14.06 | [Ammo] | local blah = something |
| 16:14.13 | Ratbert_CP | Damned Lua and the *three* character elipsis... |
| 16:14.15 | [Ammo] | if something then return end |
| 16:14.19 | [Ammo] | local blah = somethingelse |
| 16:14.34 | Neronix | Ratbert_CP: I need to essentially decrypt all the old util functions he wrote |
| 16:14.38 | Industrial | oo oo oo |
| 16:14.38 | Neronix | and document them |
| 16:14.44 | Neronix | For AceUtils |
| 16:14.54 | Mikma | oh yeah i got rank2 from pvp |
| 16:14.56 | Industrial | family guy season 3 download complete :D |
| 16:14.59 | Ratbert_CP | Neronix: Looks like a job for sed! |
| 16:15.00 | Mikma | gotta go and buy my anti-warlock trinket |
| 16:15.03 | Industrial | *coke* *popcorn* |
| 16:15.12 | Mikma | Industrial: i'm just starting wow to try out your code again |
| 16:15.45 | Neronix | Ratbert_CP: sed? |
| 16:15.46 | Industrial | Mikma: idUnitframes? :P its on the svn now |
| 16:15.50 | Mikma | Ratbert_CP: "I'm looking into it" |
| 16:15.52 | Mikma | Industrial: yeap :) |
| 16:15.55 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 16:16.15 | Mikma | SoB = Son of a Bitch? |
| 16:16.19 | Kebinusan | SCT+SCTD=512, MSBT 1042KiB according to warmup, but the options arent load on demand yet in MSBT it looks like |
| 16:16.27 | Ratbert_CP | Neronix: Stream EDitor... handy unix tool that does loverly things like regex replacements... |
| 16:16.33 | Mikma | Industrial: out of date.. |
| 16:16.37 | Neronix | Ah, cool |
| 16:16.43 | Amadeo | Kebinusan: Ouch.. |
| 16:16.46 | Ratbert_CP | SoB == "Start of Business" It's 9:20AM here |
| 16:17.23 | mjc | Ratbert_CP: yay @ sed |
| 16:17.39 | mjc | who needs alcohol when you have regexps :D |
| 16:17.40 | Mikma | i wan't the blizzard addonlist to show out of date addons eventho the cross is checked |
| 16:17.53 | [Ammo] | now that I'm 'done' converting WitchHunt it's time to put some more attention towards Necronomicon conversion and modularisation thingies |
| 16:18.48 | Amadeo | I need a new auto-retarget addon, for Hunters and their crappy FD! |
| 16:19.41 | mjc | ammo: necronomicon = <3 |
| 16:19.42 | [Ammo] | you need to learn to play better... |
| 16:19.43 | mjc | :) |
| 16:20.01 | [Ammo] | if you're fighting a hunter always kick them while they're down |
| 16:20.04 | *** join/#wowace Dulark (n=Dulark@207.250.72.2) |
| 16:20.11 | [Ammo] | it's good practice :) |
| 16:20.15 | Amadeo | [Ammo]: I do! But when there's a big zerg you can't target them :( |
| 16:20.23 | Amadeo | since too many people tend to stand on their corpse...or their pets do :( |
| 16:20.41 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.45 | Dulark | hi everyone |
| 16:20.48 | [Ammo] | what chipmunk says :) |
| 16:20.49 | Kebinusan | mik I love this already |
| 16:20.51 | hyperChipmunk | bind it |
| 16:20.55 | Kebinusan | the curved left/right thing is sexy |
| 16:20.56 | hyperChipmunk | use it |
| 16:20.58 | hyperChipmunk | love it |
| 16:20.59 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Argh, I'm already out of keys to bind! |
| 16:21.00 | Amadeo | haha |
| 16:21.17 | hyperChipmunk | it's my X key |
| 16:21.20 | mjc | I use multimedia keys :p |
| 16:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | it's that important |
| 16:21.28 | hyperChipmunk | I use it all the time |
| 16:21.28 | Amadeo | X is Piercing Howl for me |
| 16:21.32 | Mikma | Kebinusan: mikk is not here ;) |
| 16:22.05 | Kebinusan | oh I misread something earlier, gg lack of sleep |
| 16:22.21 | Kebinusan | or lack of reading comprehension whichever you want to blame |
| 16:23.47 | mjc | rofl |
| 16:23.55 | mjc | one of these mods replaced the playerframe |
| 16:23.57 | mjc | and I like it |
| 16:24.02 | mjc | but I cna't figure out which one it is >_> |
| 16:24.16 | Mikma | mjc: replaced to what? ss us so we can tell you |
| 16:24.41 | hyperChipmunk | ArcHUD or DHUD maybe |
| 16:24.51 | mjc | I have archud enabled |
| 16:24.59 | mjc | but it looks like it's something else |
| 16:25.16 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Do your Freezing Traps wear off early much? I was fighting a Hunter yesterday and they basically all lasted 20 seconds while he fought a Rogue |
| 16:25.42 | hyperChipmunk | no, they're pretty solid |
| 16:25.51 | Amadeo | that's crazy |
| 16:26.11 | mjc | gnome rogue? |
| 16:26.56 | Amadeo | I think it was a NE or Human |
| 16:27.20 | mjc | gnomes have escape artist |
| 16:27.21 | Mikma | hmmmmmm |
| 16:27.26 | Mikma | i just got a wild idea about bartender |
| 16:27.31 | Mikma | maybe i should test it out |
| 16:27.32 | Amadeo | You can't use that in a freezing trap, can you? |
| 16:27.46 | mjc | Amadeo: might be able to, never tried |
| 16:27.50 | Amadeo | that would be awesome |
| 16:27.59 | mjc | Mikma: bartender doesn't respect fubar's adjust frame thing |
| 16:28.04 | Amadeo | Hunters are still pretty overpowered in my eyes :P |
| 16:28.14 | Mikma | mjc: meaning what? |
| 16:28.15 | mjc | Amadeo: :D |
| 16:28.24 | Mikma | mjc: frames don't move when using autoadjust? |
| 16:28.27 | mjc | Mikma: SS incoming, also for someoneo to tell me what mod is replacing my crap :p |
| 16:28.30 | mjc | Mikma: nope |
| 16:28.54 | Amadeo | You have to gauge a class on what a *great* player can do with it...not what a bunch of bad players can get by with, and that's the mistake I think a lot of people make |
| 16:29.22 | mjc | http://mjc.325i.org/weird.jpg |
| 16:29.48 | mjc | the playerframe thing is in the top left |
| 16:29.55 | Amadeo | I have a 24 Hunter...I was killing a 60 Warrior with Sulfuras |
| 16:30.11 | mjc | Amadeo: bad warrior |
| 16:30.12 | Kebinusan | looks like perl unit frame maybe? |
| 16:30.13 | Mikma | mjc: looks like watchdog/ some unitframes |
| 16:30.15 | Amadeo | mjc: Nah |
| 16:30.17 | [Ammo] | did you just download idUnitFrames mjc? |
| 16:30.17 | Amadeo | he couldn't do anything |
| 16:30.24 | [Ammo] | or something silly |
| 16:30.30 | Amadeo | I kept at 41 yards the whole time with Cheetah |
| 16:30.35 | Amadeo | what was he gonna do? |
| 16:30.40 | [Ammo] | screenshot your addons folder :p |
| 16:30.42 | [Ammo] | that might help |
| 16:31.35 | mjc | I have aceunitframes, archud, and that seems to be about it for obvious unitframe stuff |
| 16:31.55 | CIA-7 | 03neronix 07otravi * r4048 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Optimisations and a possible compatibility fix in the Mobhealth/Mobhealth2/Mobinfo2 support |
| 16:32.51 | Amadeo | Neronix is taking over! |
| 16:32.52 | Mikma | Industrial: why do you wan't to put the text on left of the frames? :) |
| 16:32.53 | mjc | I'd like to be able to just hide the playerframe and targetframe completely |
| 16:32.59 | Mikma | Industrial: why not put it over healthbar |
| 16:34.51 | mjc | Mikma: cause this is how he wants it |
| 16:35.07 | Mikma | mjc: yeah but that ain't really minimal heh :P |
| 16:35.24 | Mikma | name over healthbar means that the bars can be dragged to left after that |
| 16:35.40 | mjc | meh, so no ideas about the unitframe? rebooting so I can take a shot of the folder :p |
| 16:35.40 | Mikma | but.. he likes them centered so let him do what he want's :) |
| 16:36.10 | CIA-7 | 03silverwind * r4049 10RepToGo/ (RepToGo.lua RepToGo.toc): |
| 16:36.10 | CIA-7 | RepToGo: |
| 16:36.10 | CIA-7 | - v9 update |
| 16:36.20 | Mikma | mjc: is the issue with autoadjust and bartender in that picture in lower-right? |
| 16:36.56 | *** join/#wowace [Wobin] (n=Wobin@221.221.19.150) |
| 16:37.01 | Mikma | i can add another way to move minimap in 1.04 than frames, that way it should work with FuBar too |
| 16:37.43 | Industrial | Mikma: because else it will be over the healbar :P |
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| 16:39.08 | CIA-7 | 03elkano * r4050 10ElkBuffBar/ (ElkBuffBar.lua readme.txt): |
| 16:39.08 | CIA-7 | ElkBuffBar: |
| 16:39.09 | CIA-7 | - renamed growup to invert |
| 16:39.09 | CIA-7 | - updated readme |
| 16:39.09 | mjc | Mikma: yep |
| 16:39.19 | mjc | er |
| 16:39.21 | mjc | lower portion, period |
| 16:40.27 | mjc | Mikma: I think it should only override that if you move the bars/map with 'adjust frames' already turned on.. either that or ahve an option to override it |
| 16:42.52 | mjc | http://mjc.325i.org/list.jpg |
| 16:43.21 | mjc | I have maybe 3 mods that aren't in the ace svn repo atm >_> |
| 16:43.30 | [Wobin] | or scans_daily even |
| 16:44.05 | mjc | penny arcade |
| 16:44.16 | Tain | Aw OneBank doesn't work for me |
| 16:44.22 | [Wobin] | meh, you woudn't get the joke =( |
| 16:45.00 | [Wobin] | Although I find PA, although sometimes amusing, to be far more often just plain... dumb. |
| 16:45.14 | [Wobin] | As in, not even funny |
| 16:45.45 | [Wobin] | Most of the time you have to read the news article to figure out what's the 'funny' |
| 16:46.00 | [Wobin] | and it often turns out to be a 'you had to be there' joke |
| 16:46.06 | *** join/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce4.disney.com) |
| 16:46.07 | [Wobin] | which never works in print media =P |
| 16:47.00 | Elkano | I wonder if I should put EBB 1.2 live... any spontaneous ideas of missing features or bugs? |
| 16:47.07 | mjc | ebb? |
| 16:47.13 | [Wobin] | buffbar |
| 16:47.15 | mjc | ah |
| 16:47.15 | Elkano | ElkBuffBar |
| 16:47.26 | mjc | I can try it out for you, if you want :p |
| 16:47.42 | Elkano | feel free to do so :) |
| 16:47.57 | Kebinusan | works great for for me so far |
| 16:48.01 | mjc | btw, still no idea on what mod is making that neat playerframe replacement :pp here's my list http://mjc.325i.org/list.jpg |
| 16:48.09 | mjc | and the shot http://mjc.325i.org/weird.jpg |
| 16:49.21 | Mikma | mjc: aceunitframes |
| 16:50.02 | Amadeo | haha |
| 16:50.16 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252) |
| 16:50.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 16:50.19 | mjc | I thought auf was just a library :p |
| 16:50.31 | Tem | it is? |
| 16:50.43 | Elkano | hmm, none of my addons used :( ;) |
| 16:50.52 | mjc | Elkano: :p |
| 16:50.59 | mjc | I just started redoing my addon list |
| 16:51.13 | Gngsk | Elkano, I use a few of your addons :D |
| 16:51.19 | Elkano | \o/ |
| 16:51.42 | Gngsk | lol, what's a rogue need squishy for? |
| 16:51.55 | Elkano | always good to see that you're not wasting your time :) |
| 16:51.57 | ag` | Is it possible to have a class register an event? |
| 16:52.00 | mjc | Gngsk: didn't bother to turn it off |
| 16:52.07 | mjc | I have a priest and a mage too |
| 16:52.53 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 16:53.10 | Amadeo | Gngsk: Rogues are Squishy |
| 16:57.03 | Kebinusan | Gngsk, how else are you going to know who needs bandaging on ouro |
| 17:00.29 | mjc | heh |
| 17:02.57 | mjc | hum, acewardrobe could use a stealthed set and an EPL set and I'd be totally happy |
| 17:07.45 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.51 | mjc | hey K |
| 17:10.02 | hyperChipmunk | heyo |
| 17:11.35 | Mikma | wow-eu is down, damn blizzard |
| 17:17.54 | mjc | MSBT + archud = really cool |
| 17:18.30 | [Wobin] | MSBT? |
| 17:19.05 | mjc | mikscrollingbattletext |
| 17:19.12 | Amadeo | what's different about MSBT? |
| 17:19.50 | Industrial | mjc: its AceFry |
| 17:19.59 | Industrial | thw unitframes |
| 17:20.02 | Industrial | the* |
| 17:20.03 | Kebinusan | yeah I like MSBT and dhud |
| 17:20.06 | mjc | aha |
| 17:20.07 | Kebinusan | it looks really sexxy |
| 17:20.22 | Amadeo | I don't understand why it's sexier than SCT :P |
| 17:21.28 | Industrial | MSBT? |
| 17:21.43 | mjc | the left and right scrolling things scroll at the same angle as archud |
| 17:21.44 | Industrial | url? |
| 17:21.45 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:21.46 | Amadeo | Industrial: I thought it was like SCT |
| 17:21.54 | Amadeo | mjc: I see |
| 17:21.57 | Industrial | Amadeo: I have no idea what MSBT is |
| 17:22.05 | Amadeo | but is it worth 500 more KiB!? |
| 17:23.24 | mjc | doesn't seem to actually use that much |
| 17:23.30 | mjc | or if it does, I don't notice |
| 17:23.34 | Wobin | I don't see why SCT needs to be 'Aced' |
| 17:23.36 | Wobin | tbh |
| 17:23.39 | Mikma | lalaaah, brb |
| 17:24.05 | mjc | ora_invite needs a /rainvite 60 |
| 17:25.10 | Industrial | whats MSBT and wheres the URL? :P |
| 17:26.59 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4482-1-mikscrollingbattletext.html |
| 17:29.39 | Kaelten | Should I put OneCore and OneBag togather in the same folder? |
| 17:30.07 | Amadeo | what's the best gnutella client? |
| 17:30.44 | Tain | Kaelten: Had a suggestion, when mousing over bag icons in OneBag can you show the tooltip so you know what type of bag it is? |
| 17:31.06 | Kaelten | Tain: Example? |
| 17:31.46 | Tain | When I have my OneBag open and click to show my bags, if I want to replace one of my bags with a larger one it's easy to see what type of bag your'e replacing if the tooltip for that bag shows |
| 17:31.52 | Kaelten | just bag name and slots? |
| 17:31.53 | Tain | Right now it just highlights the slots |
| 17:31.59 | Tain | yeah |
| 17:32.10 | Kaelten | yeah I can work on that soon |
| 17:32.31 | Tain | Just a cosmetic feature request. :) |
| 17:32.41 | Kaelten | OneBank and OneBag use so much of the same code that I'm working on combining them where appropriate |
| 17:34.07 | kergoth`zzz | Kaelten: did you find the source of the massive ram usage in the old onebag? |
| 17:34.41 | Kaelten | perhaps. |
| 17:34.58 | Kaelten | OneBag is using about 20-25% of the old one. |
| 17:35.05 | kergoth | cool |
| 17:35.11 | *** join/#wowace XLVII (n=XLVII@CPE-58-162-91-73.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 17:35.12 | kergoth | that was the main reason i ditched it for bagnon |
| 17:35.25 | Kaelten | but I'm digging in over design decisions. |
| 17:35.43 | Kaelten | OneBank and OneBank's code is highly similar |
| 17:35.50 | Kaelten | err OneBag and OneBanks |
| 17:35.51 | Kaelten | rather |
| 17:36.29 | Wobin | Give the option to disable one or the other then? |
| 17:36.57 | Kaelten | So I'm combining the common code for the two into a AceModuleCore |
| 17:38.34 | mjc | wtf @ fubar_factionitems |
| 17:38.40 | mjc | does it actually do anything? lol |
| 17:39.10 | kergoth | last 3 days of work.. i'm gonna be bored outo f my damn mind |
| 17:41.53 | Kebinusan | mjc, /rainvite 60 and /razinvite |
| 17:42.09 | mjc | Kebinusan: shorthands is on and yet neither work |
| 17:42.19 | Kebinusan | yeah the functions arent there |
| 17:42.30 | Kebinusan | Autopromote by guild rank would be nice too |
| 17:43.02 | Kebinusan | the rainvite functions wouldnt take much to gut from ctra I think |
| 17:43.10 | Kebinusan | if you didnt want to write them from scratch |
| 17:43.25 | mjc | too lazy to bother :p |
| 17:43.25 | Kebinusan | just edit the toc to only load the ctraslashcmd file |
| 17:44.04 | Kebinusan | I know the feeling |
| 17:44.18 | Kebinusan | Ive just taken to using guildfu and going down the invite list clicking everyone |
| 17:46.43 | Mikma | mm kk |
| 17:46.47 | Mikma | shower = rock |
| 17:49.33 | kergoth | hmmmm |
| 17:51.06 | *** join/#wowace _kaybe_ (n=kaybe@p54867A95.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:57.26 | Mikma | kergoth: morning ;D |
| 17:57.37 | kergoth | unfortunately :P |
| 17:58.02 | Mikma | it's 20:57 here and temperature has cooled down abit from yesterday |
| 18:00.17 | Industrial | Anyone tried out idUnitframes yet? its on the svn :P |
| 18:00.24 | Mikma | i did |
| 18:00.28 | Industrial | Gunna try addong target frame and stuff |
| 18:00.29 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten_ (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183) |
| 18:00.31 | Slayman | i bet they suck |
| 18:00.31 | Mikma | didn't test on combat tho |
| 18:00.40 | Industrial | Slayman: not as much as you \o/ |
| 18:00.54 | Mikma | hah meatshields |
| 18:01.04 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten_ (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183) |
| 18:01.04 | Slayman | mikma made me say it! |
| 18:01.12 | Mikma | aye, i have hacked his system |
| 18:01.16 | Mikma | you should ban him now |
| 18:01.17 | Slayman | due to his superior psionic powers |
| 18:01.26 | Mikma | i can do it again, and only on slayman |
| 18:01.36 | Slayman | No please not |
| 18:01.41 | Industrial | hey lookies family guy |
| 18:07.53 | Dulark | ah, family guy... got to get the old episodes |
| 18:08.04 | Dulark | haven't seen very many of them |
| 18:08.48 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 18:08.55 | purl | One day I got caught with my hand down my pants at school, and I had to keep it there all week...What a week! |
| 18:09.03 | mjc | haha |
| 18:09.09 | Dulark | lol |
| 18:11.35 | mjc | hum, I want to play the MGS death music when my character dies |
| 18:12.41 | kergoth | hmm, i should play with wowbench. stuck at work for the next 3 days and not exactly motivated to do work |
| 18:12.57 | mjc | wowbench? |
| 18:12.58 | mjc | :p |
| 18:12.59 | Mikma | damn |
| 18:13.10 | Mikma | i can't download mikscrollingsomething |
| 18:13.17 | Mikma | atleast from curse |
| 18:14.27 | kergoth | mjc: its stubs for teh wow api for addon testing in a lua interpreter, as i understand ti |
| 18:14.33 | mjc | ah |
| 18:15.16 | kergoth | Mikma: i've run into the inability to download a file from curse af ew times in the past week.. pretty odd |
| 18:15.32 | Mikma | kergoth: yeah i had the same with that one now |
| 18:15.38 | Mikma | all i got was pink page with error |
| 18:15.41 | kergoth | :( |
| 18:20.53 | Kaelten_ | hrm |
| 18:20.57 | Mikma | so, is it ok to link Bartender in svn to WoWI? |
| 18:22.05 | kergoth | i'd think no, itd put a lot of pressure on the wowace server. |
| 18:22.09 | kergoth | but thatd probably be clad's call to make |
| 18:22.37 | Mikma | mmkay i'll just tease them then |
| 18:23.24 | Ratbert_CP | Hrmmm... |
| 18:24.24 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4051 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua OneBag.toc OneBag.xml libs/): OneBag - Made dependent on OneCore, which is for now a separate addon, will probably be merged back into OneBag |
| 18:24.49 | Mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5112#cmnt9804 |
| 18:24.51 | Mikma | there, lol :D |
| 18:24.52 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4052 10OneBank/ (OneBank.lua OneBank.toc OneBank.xml libs/): OneBank - Made dependent upon OneCore |
| 18:25.56 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4053 10OneCore/ (BagSlot.blp OneCore.lua OneCore.toc libs/ templates.xml): OneCore - Building One core up from the ground with the common portions of OneBank and OneBag, will be merged back in with OneBag after development is done. |
| 18:27.01 | Kaelten_ | gods is onebag changing appearences |
| 18:27.55 | kergoth | zeppelinmaster looks cute |
| 18:28.02 | kergoth | consumes a chat channel though, and those are precious |
| 18:28.37 | Mikma | is there any place where i can download the mikscrolsadasegeas? |
| 18:33.19 | hyperChipmunk | [Ammo]: you've got a copy/paste typo in your chat commands |
| 18:33.30 | hyperChipmunk | combatonly and targetonly have the same description |
| 18:33.57 | Mikma | hmm now it worked |
| 18:46.05 | Ratbert_CP | Hrmmm... Is there any way to get the event name from within an event handler in AceEvent-2.0? |
| 18:47.57 | Ratbert_CP | Specifically, I'm trying to dynamically register for events and properly dispatch them. But the design in my head is to register the event, and have a generic dispatch function handle them. But I don't want an individual handler for each event... |
| 18:48.07 | Tem | the global "event" should be set |
| 18:49.49 | Ratbert_CP | Can I reference it thusly: if event == "BAG_UPDATE" then ... end, or do I need to get it some other way? |
| 18:50.21 | Tem | that should work |
| 18:50.29 | Tem | unless AceEvent-2.0 did something I don't know about |
| 18:50.47 | Ratbert_CP | :) |
| 18:51.21 | ag` | Ahhh, why is my statusbar on top of my text even when I create the font string to the "OVERLAY" layer? |
| 18:58.34 | CIA-7 | 03elkano * r4054 10ElkBuffBar/ElkBuffBar.lua: |
| 18:58.34 | CIA-7 | ElkBuffBar: |
| 18:58.34 | CIA-7 | - some fixes to invert |
| 19:09.24 | Amadeo | Hey Neronix |
| 19:09.45 | Neronix | Amadeo: Perfect timing. Just back from afkland |
| 19:09.55 | Mikma | k! |
| 19:10.11 | Neronix | Are you going to beg me to make a combat log mod again? :P |
| 19:10.14 | Amadeo | Lexan\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:49: bad argument #1 to `pairs' (table expected, got number) |
| 19:10.18 | Amadeo | no :P |
| 19:10.28 | Amadeo | that happened after I left a mailbox |
| 19:10.28 | Mikma | Neronix: please please please make us a combat log mod which is not as big as ps3 |
| 19:10.58 | Amadeo | Neronix: Yes please please! :D |
| 19:11.17 | Neronix | Amadeo: O.o? |
| 19:11.27 | Neronix | Lemme check that out quickly |
| 19:12.12 | Mikma | Amadeo: YAY he checks combat log quickly ;) |
| 19:12.20 | Neronix | I mean the lexan error |
| 19:12.22 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:12.22 | ckknight | back |
| 19:12.37 | Mikma | no you didn't, you meant combat log by neronix! |
| 19:12.44 | Neronix | I never look at my combat log, therefore I don't need a custom combat log, therefore I won't make one |
| 19:13.18 | Mikma | but your parser is as big as ps1 |
| 19:13.27 | Neronix | No, it's as big as a wii |
| 19:13.45 | Neronix | Partly because I only want to look at a small number of possible combat log messages :P |
| 19:14.06 | Neronix | Hmm, line 49 of acelibrary is the local error function |
| 19:14.20 | ckknight | http://www.break.com/movies/startswiththekids.html |
| 19:14.24 | Neronix | Now I need to find out WHY it's on the local error function >.> |
| 19:15.23 | Neronix | Hmm, I don't think it's Lexan |
| 19:15.39 | Neronix | Lexan doesn't create the variable that's causing the error |
| 19:15.45 | ckknight | Kaelten_, there? |
| 19:15.57 | Kaelten_ | sup? |
| 19:16.30 | ckknight | you had a weird name with the _ |
| 19:16.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 19:16.45 | ckknight | also, Dewdrop can now take an AceOptions data table as its children statement in Register |
| 19:16.45 | Kaelten | got dc'd earlier forgot to change it |
| 19:16.55 | ckknight | which I'm proud of :-) |
| 19:17.18 | Kaelten | cool |
| 19:17.20 | Neronix | Amadeo: Is Lexan the only Ace2 mod you have? |
| 19:17.36 | Kaelten | so I can easily add a rightclick menu to OneBag now? |
| 19:18.36 | Kaelten | oh, had an idea for AceModuleCor |
| 19:19.04 | Kaelten | being able to set required mixins or something like that or just a standard mixin set that gets included in with each module no matter what |
| 19:22.25 | Amadeo | Neronix: I also have OneBag |
| 19:23.48 | Neronix | Amadeo: Doesn't seem to matter. I got the error too and none of the Ace2 mods I have do anything with a variable called tmp |
| 19:24.05 | Neronix | Grep to the rescue! |
| 19:24.30 | Amadeo | hm |
| 19:25.17 | Neronix | (Grep is like grope, but not as entertaining) |
| 19:25.41 | kergoth | yay grep |
| 19:28.29 | kergoth | hmm, i never really look at my combat log either, just occasionally to see exactly what happeend if i didnt catch it with sct while it happened. i'd be happy if sct kept a backlog |
| 19:28.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:29.06 | ag` | Why is the statusbar frame on top of my font string even when I create the font string to the "OVERLAY" layer? How do I make it go behind? |
| 19:29.51 | Mikma | ag`: SetFrameStrata("LOW") ? |
| 19:31.01 | ckknight | Kaelten, yea, I thought of that |
| 19:31.34 | ckknight | Kaelten, um, what'd be a good API for that? |
| 19:31.56 | Kaelten | self:SetStandardMixins(arg1....arg20) |
| 19:31.58 | Kaelten | ? |
| 19:32.46 | Kaelten | and then in NewModule those mixins plus the ones that get passed in get merged |
| 19:33.08 | Neronix | Amadeo: Do you use tinytip? |
| 19:33.34 | Neronix | It's using a global tmp variable |
| 19:33.35 | ckknight | sounds good to me |
| 19:33.39 | Neronix | And putting a number value in it |
| 19:33.55 | Amadeo | Neronix: I do |
| 19:34.04 | ag` | Mikma: It's strange though, because if you look at otravi's unit frame, he doesn't have to do anything to make his text on top of his bars |
| 19:34.16 | Neronix | Unload tinytip and tell me if the error's still there |
| 19:34.22 | Neronix | I can't test myself right now |
| 19:34.30 | Mikma | ag`: well does he have SetFrameStrata("HIGH") on his frame then? |
| 19:34.36 | Mikma | ag`: and, did it work? |
| 19:35.28 | ag` | nope, it didn't work |
| 19:36.10 | Mikma | mm |
| 19:36.14 | Mikma | i'll have to test that now |
| 19:36.16 | ag` | and he doesn't use Strata |
| 19:37.13 | ckknight | Kaelten, so should it a) force people to specify the mixin or b) automatically add the mixin |
| 19:37.28 | Kaelten | hrm, I'd think automatically add the mixin |
| 19:37.44 | Kaelten | its explicitly implicit |
| 19:37.50 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:38.33 | ckknight | (a) is easier to code :-P |
| 19:39.06 | Kaelten | lol, true |
| 19:39.29 | ag` | How do I upload a project to the SVN? I have an account |
| 19:39.29 | Kaelten | I guess the biggest thing I want to protect against is WTF errors because the module prototype assumes a mixin is present |
| 19:39.37 | ag` | I'm using tortoiseSVN |
| 19:39.55 | Neronix | ag, go to your project's folder, right click on empty space and choose import |
| 19:39.58 | kergoth | ag`: svn generally has an 'import' |
| 19:40.42 | ag` | and then I select trunk? |
| 19:41.21 | ckknight | yea, agreed |
| 19:42.02 | ckknight | with (b), how should it react if you specify a mixin that's the same as a standard one? |
| 19:42.12 | ckknight | silently skip? |
| 19:42.14 | Neronix | ag`: The path should be /trunk/MyMod |
| 19:42.29 | kergoth | ckknight: i'd say think of it like doing a union on two sets |
| 19:42.38 | Neronix | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/MyMod |
| 19:42.40 | ckknight | alright |
| 19:43.44 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4055 10/trunk/ (39 files in 13 dirs): ag_UnitFrames - first upload |
| 19:44.06 | ag` | ah |
| 19:44.59 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4056 10/trunk/ag_Themes.lua: Removed file/folder |
| 19:45.13 | ag` | I'm cleaning it up now |
| 19:45.25 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4057 10/trunk/ag_UnitFrames.lua: Removed file/folder |
| 19:45.52 | kergoth | ag, you dont have to do it manually. |
| 19:46.00 | kergoth | this is source control, revisions can be reverted in one fell swoop |
| 19:46.10 | kergoth | just so you know for hte future |
| 19:46.55 | ag` | Yeah sorry, pretty new to SVN. :) |
| 19:46.55 | Amadeo | Neronix: Disabling TinyTip fixed it |
| 19:47.00 | Amadeo | sorry, I was afk before |
| 19:47.21 | Neronix | Amadeo: K, time to annoy Thrae |
| 19:47.25 | Neronix | /annoy Thrae |
| 19:47.51 | Neronix | /annoy Thrae|WoW |
| 19:47.53 | kergoth | ag`: if you need something reverted, your best bet is to just let me or clad know, and we can take care of it for you, save you the trouble |
| 19:47.57 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:48.22 | Neronix | I need to make grope an alias for grep somehow |
| 19:48.22 | kergoth | hehe, thrae forgot a 'local ' eh |
| 19:48.26 | Neronix | Yeah |
| 19:48.27 | kergoth | ~remulate |
| 19:48.28 | purl | i need tacos! i need tacos or i'll explode. that happens to me sometimes. |
| 19:48.28 | Kaelten | ckknight: well we wouldn't want to try to include the same one twice |
| 19:48.32 | ag` | kergoth: I can either delete the rest of the stuff I uploaded in the wrong place now, I you could revert it |
| 19:48.35 | kergoth | $ alias grope=grep |
| 19:48.38 | Neronix | kergoth: Caused an error in AceLibrary |
| 19:48.42 | Neronix | Ah, thanks |
| 19:49.14 | kergoth | ag`: i'll revert it for ya |
| 19:49.16 | kergoth | np |
| 19:49.20 | ag` | thanks |
| 19:49.33 | kergoth | ~emulate fry |
| 19:49.34 | purl | People said I was dumb, but I proved them. |
| 19:49.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:50.21 | Mikma | hha |
| 19:50.27 | Mikma | that's cool |
| 19:51.05 | ckknight | Kaelten, this is a bitch to code. can't I just take the lazy way out and raise an error if a standard mixin isn't provided |
| 19:51.06 | ckknight | ? |
| 19:51.39 | ckknight | blah |
| 19:52.05 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@dyndsl-085-016-093-162.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 19:54.23 | Tem | checkouts just got sloooow |
| 19:54.30 | Tem | oh yeah |
| 19:54.36 | Tem | damn you people and your svn:externals |
| 19:54.46 | Tem | svn update * takes WAY longer because of you |
| 19:55.08 | kergoth | :'( |
| 19:55.18 | kergoth | haha, this guy on the lua list is one sick bastard |
| 19:55.20 | Neronix | Why can't the client just cache all the externals? |
| 19:55.27 | kergoth | he's messing with attaching a metatable to nil |
| 19:55.34 | kergoth | Neronix: hm? |
| 19:55.46 | ckknight | kergoth, lol. how's it work? |
| 19:55.55 | kergoth | he set an __len |
| 19:56.00 | kergoth | > nilmt.__len = function()return 7 end |
| 19:56.00 | kergoth | > return #nil |
| 19:56.00 | kergoth | 7 |
| 19:56.08 | ckknight | hehe |
| 19:56.23 | kergoth | apparently theres a bug with it, if you do that, then #function() end also returns 7 |
| 19:56.25 | kergoth | leaks into other types |
| 19:56.26 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:56.30 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:56.31 | ckknight | fun |
| 19:57.08 | ckknight | same |
| 19:57.24 | kergoth | it shows creativity, and thinking outside the box, dangit |
| 19:57.26 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:58.15 | Mikma | right, now after i have updated my addons i can play abit |
| 19:59.46 | CIA-7 | 03neronix * r4058 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip - Made tmp and tmp2 in TinyTip.lua local. Should stop it from causing errors in AceLibrary, and possibly others |
| 19:59.56 | Neronix | Hope Thrae won't mine |
| 20:00.01 | Neronix | Amadeo, test please :P |
| 20:01.09 | Mikma | can i test it too? what's the bug? :D |
| 20:01.30 | Neronix | Mikma: If there's no errors, all is well :P |
| 20:02.05 | Mikma | Neronix: it bugs with what and how, and should i try that or not? |
| 20:02.32 | Neronix | Mikma: If there's no line 49 error in AceLibrary when you use a mailbox with Lexan, it should be fine |
| 20:02.46 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4059 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: AceModuleCore - added :SetModuleMixins(...) |
| 20:03.05 | Mikma | Neronix: mmkay then, don't use lexan so propably there's no error on me |
| 20:03.27 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r4060 10Ace2/ (AceModuleCore-1.lua AceModuleCore-2.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceModuleCore-1.lua and AceModuleCore-2.lua |
| 20:03.59 | *** join/#wowace Soltanis (i=as@81.168.16.197) |
| 20:04.05 | Soltanis | yey , there we go |
| 20:04.56 | ag` | kergoth, did you revert it? If so, I'll try again :P |
| 20:05.23 | kergoth | Tem: heh, you'd like my use of svk. svk doesnt support externals. i use svk to maintain local mirrors of the upstream repositories, so i then have a python script that does a checkout from my local mirror and pulls the associated externasl out of -those- mirrors as well. so the net connection isnt the bottleneck |
| 20:05.44 | Tem | mmmm |
| 20:05.48 | Tem | *jealous* |
| 20:05.52 | kergoth | ag`: my damn svn co is still going, but i thuink the trunk checkout just finished, doign so now |
| 20:06.06 | Tem | ckknight, do I have to give a name to CreateBasicPluginFrame? |
| 20:06.12 | Mikma | zomg i got error |
| 20:06.14 | kergoth | hahah |
| 20:06.14 | ckknight | Tem, probably |
| 20:06.20 | Tem | bleh |
| 20:06.23 | Neronix | Mikma: !? |
| 20:06.24 | Tem | I hate naming frames |
| 20:06.25 | ckknight | tem, how's AceGUI? |
| 20:06.27 | Mikma | Cannot find library instance with version 'Zone 1.2' |
| 20:06.29 | kergoth | i have lots of strange perverse shell and python scripts on my drive |
| 20:06.31 | kergoth | my laziness abounds |
| 20:06.36 | Mikma | i just updated WitchHunt Ace2 |
| 20:06.36 | Neronix | Mikma: Wrong mod :P |
| 20:06.41 | Tem | on hold until my brain un-freezes |
| 20:06.44 | ag` | Is anyone doing an unit frame addon with AceOO-2.0 btw? |
| 20:06.53 | ckknight | ag`, indie |
| 20:06.53 | Tem | learning the FuBar API to thaw myself |
| 20:06.56 | Amadeo | Neronix: Ok, testing now |
| 20:07.05 | ag` | ckknight: what is it called on the SVN? |
| 20:07.06 | Neronix | ~amadeosnack |
| 20:07.07 | purl | ACTION hands a snack to Amadeo |
| 20:07.18 | ckknight | ag`, idSomething |
| 20:07.24 | ckknight | Tem, but I want FuBar-2.0 to use AceGUI-2.0 |
| 20:07.25 | ag` | ok |
| 20:07.26 | Neronix | idUnitFrames? :P |
| 20:07.29 | Mikma | yeah |
| 20:07.34 | Tem | ckknight, why? |
| 20:07.38 | ckknight | why not? |
| 20:07.41 | Tem | AceGUI is mostly useful for other things |
| 20:07.46 | ckknight | actually, it probably doesn't matter |
| 20:07.51 | ckknight | just wondering if I _could_ |
| 20:07.52 | CIA-7 | 03kergoth * r4061 10/trunk/ (Images/ ag_UnitFrames.toc fonts/ libs/): Revert revision 4055. |
| 20:07.58 | Amadeo | Neronix: Fixed, thank ya sir :) |
| 20:07.58 | Tem | CreateFrame is /better/ in most cases |
| 20:08.05 | Amadeo | Neronix: Now make the combat log please :D |
| 20:08.06 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 20:08.09 | Amadeo | brb |
| 20:08.18 | Tem | AceGUI is useful for creating pretty guis without much effort |
| 20:08.19 | kergoth | ag`: there ya go |
| 20:08.26 | Tem | something like FuBar isn't going to benefit from it |
| 20:08.33 | Mikma | wtf is going on |
| 20:08.33 | Tem | least, I don't think it would |
| 20:08.40 | hyperChipmunk | well, I'M waiting for it |
| 20:08.41 | kergoth | Tem: btw, svn co has a --ignore-externals |
| 20:08.42 | Mikma | what addon is broken on my comp :P |
| 20:08.46 | hyperChipmunk | so hurry up, slacker |
| 20:08.54 | kergoth | Tem: nice if your'e checking out the entire wowace repo, but thats about it |
| 20:09.05 | Tem | I've done that once |
| 20:09.19 | Mikma | oh right |
| 20:09.22 | Tain | It's worth it for checking out the entire thing and just copy in the deps yourself. |
| 20:09.23 | Tem | I have a "whole trunk" folder on my desktop |
| 20:09.24 | Mikma | it was STFU which is broken |
| 20:09.47 | Tain | Makes checkouts a lot faster. |
| 20:09.49 | Tem | which I run svn update * on every once in a while |
| 20:10.14 | Tain | And I'm off to see Sammy Hagar. See yas! |
| 20:10.14 | hyperChipmunk | hmm |
| 20:10.14 | hyperChipmunk | I wonder... |
| 20:10.32 | Neronix | Amadeo: No |
| 20:10.34 | hyperChipmunk | svn update */Ace*; svn --ignore-externals update * |
| 20:10.35 | Tem | hyperChipmunk, you remind me of someone in my guild, but I can't put my finger on it |
| 20:10.57 | kergoth | if anyone ends up trying out svn, i'll give you my externals checkout script |
| 20:11.01 | kergoth | i should put it in my homefiles svn |
| 20:12.10 | hyperChipmunk | we really do abuse SVN =P |
| 20:12.25 | kergoth | er, s/trying out svn/trying out svk/ |
| 20:12.27 | kergoth | silly fingers |
| 20:12.35 | hyperChipmunk | couldn't get svk to compile =\ |
| 20:12.42 | kergoth | aw |
| 20:12.49 | kergoth | you're on windows? |
| 20:12.51 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 20:13.03 | kergoth | what distro? |
| 20:13.11 | hyperChipmunk | perl just went ape on me and died |
| 20:13.17 | kergoth | ah :( |
| 20:13.27 | Tem | I didn't get that far |
| 20:13.37 | Tem | but I had svk's homepage opened for like a month |
| 20:13.39 | hyperChipmunk | iirc, I needed like 5300 CPAN dependencies |
| 20:14.04 | kergoth | i just sudo aptitude install svk and then go on with my day. i presume itd be in a 'yum' feed somewhere too |
| 20:14.10 | kergoth | yeah, i hate that about perl apps |
| 20:14.51 | hyperChipmunk | and surprise of all surprises, there was one combination in that 5300 that didn't play well together |
| 20:15.16 | hyperChipmunk | and the whole thing went *bzzonk* |
| 20:15.57 | ckknight | kergoth, does your think fuck up if I have "Version: 2.0" in my toc and don't change it? |
| 20:16.09 | ckknight | thing* |
| 20:17.59 | kergoth | if the version in the .toc doesnt change with each release, i have to force the version to what it really is. this normally isnt troublesome, other than as a minor annoyance. but when its 14 different addons with independent versions that may or may not be correct (the fubar starter pack), then its a problem |
| 20:18.04 | kergoth | if thats what you mean |
| 20:18.07 | kergoth | s/$/t |
| 20:18.31 | ckknight | okay |
| 20:18.37 | kergoth | meh, need more caffeine |
| 20:18.49 | ckknight | Kael's gone. |
| 20:19.14 | kergoth | ckknight: course if you were to, say, put the real release version in an X- field, but use Version for the api version, and told me about it, that i could deal with.. but you could just as easily flip it around, putting api version in an X- field and release version in Version |
| 20:19.42 | ckknight | nah, I don't want to deal with updating the toc each time |
| 20:21.00 | kergoth | please just leave it out if thats the case then :) |
| 20:21.16 | kergoth | i'm probably one of the only people using the version field for anything. hehe |
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| 20:22.55 | kergoth | jeeze, theres a lot of stuff in svn that ive never heard of. should poke at them |
| 20:23.09 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 072.0 * r4062 10FuBar/libs/: FuBAr - added libs dir |
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| 20:28.14 | ckknight_ | in upgrading FuBar to Ace2, and subsequently FuBar2, I am very glad I exported almost everything to libraries |
| 20:28.16 | ckknight_ | this will be pretty easy |
| 20:31.12 | ag` | kergoth: can I go on now? |
| 20:31.54 | kergoth | 13:15 <@kergoth> ag`: there ya go |
| 20:32.14 | ag` | thanks |
| 20:32.18 | kergoth | i look forward to the day when i can remove ace and acegui from my addons dir :) |
| 20:33.05 | ag` | so I am going to import to http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/addonname |
| 20:33.11 | kergoth | yup |
| 20:33.38 | kergoth | (in case you were wondering, a revert of a revision is generally done using svn's "merge" functionality. see the svn book for details) |
| 20:33.58 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4063 10ag_UnitFrames/ (41 files in 13 dirs): |
| 20:34.06 | hyperChipmunk | dear god |
| 20:34.22 | kergoth | ag`: is this the successor to mg2? |
| 20:34.28 | hyperChipmunk | you write an entire operating system into your unit frames or something? |
| 20:34.32 | Mikma | ! |
| 20:34.33 | kergoth | hahah |
| 20:34.38 | ag` | haha |
| 20:34.43 | ag` | no, it's images |
| 20:34.49 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 20:34.50 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 20:34.54 | Mikma | porn?!? |
| 20:35.01 | ag` | actually they are redundant |
| 20:35.31 | hyperChipmunk | does ace2 give us a select function? |
| 20:35.51 | ag` | kergoth: I wrote a new unit frame addon from scratch using AceOO-2.0 |
| 20:36.04 | Mikma | hmm |
| 20:36.08 | Mikma | should i test that ag`? |
| 20:36.12 | Tem | pix! |
| 20:36.16 | ag` | well |
| 20:36.27 | ag` | it can't really be used atm |
| 20:36.33 | ag` | well it does show health, and mana |
| 20:36.52 | Mikma | ok, then i'll wait 5 more mins |
| 20:36.56 | Mikma | hurry up plzzzzzzxxx |
| 20:37.03 | ag` | maybe 10 |
| 20:37.49 | ag` | anyway kergoth, it is using ace2 embedded, but I uploaded that. Can I sort of link it instead? |
| 20:38.45 | Tem | uuuh |
| 20:38.51 | Tem | wiki.wowace.com is down? |
| 20:39.14 | kergoth | ag`: oh nice |
| 20:39.22 | kergoth | Tem: i'm on it right now.. |
| 20:39.33 | Mikma | ag`: good to have you back :) |
| 20:40.00 | Tem | maybe my dns server is retarded |
| 20:40.04 | Tem | got an ip for it? |
| 20:40.54 | kergoth | 65.98.29.122 |
| 20:41.06 | ag` | Is there a way I can tell SVN that the libs folder in my addon is a link to ace2 |
| 20:41.20 | kergoth | yes, using the svn:externals property |
| 20:41.47 | Tem | "There is no website configured at this address." |
| 20:42.04 | kergoth | are you trying to go to th eip in your browser directly? |
| 20:42.09 | kergoth | that probably wont work |
| 20:42.20 | kergoth | at least if it uses name based virtual hosts |
| 20:42.23 | kergoth | add it to your hosts file |
| 20:43.35 | kergoth | hrm, i dont remember |
| 20:44.15 | Dulark | C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts |
| 20:44.16 | Tem | my guess was system32 |
| 20:44.22 | Tem | ah, gotta go deeper |
| 20:44.22 | Tem | thanks |
| 20:44.27 | Dulark | :) |
| 20:44.42 | Dulark | ls -l /etc/hosts in cygwin ;) |
| 20:44.45 | kergoth | ckknight_: imho, AceModuleCore could use a module iterator |
| 20:45.00 | ckknight_ | k |
| 20:45.09 | ckknight_ | :IterateModules() |
| 20:45.17 | Tem | yep, adding it to hosts works |
| 20:46.34 | kergoth | ckknight_: yeah. assuming you have a modules table, making function IterateModules() return next, self.modules, nil end would probably do |
| 20:46.37 | phyber | anyone know if there is a way to get a new [Key to Searing Gorge] ? |
| 20:46.43 | shield|Slayman|s | How much mana does a mage gain from 1 INT ? |
| 20:46.46 | phyber | I threw mine away ages ago, but want a new one for my keyring :/ |
| 20:46.52 | ckknight_ | kergoth, wouldn't pairs(self.modules) work just as well? |
| 20:46.53 | Tem | shield|Slayman|s, 16, iirc |
| 20:46.57 | Tem | (without talents) |
| 20:47.10 | kergoth | ckknight_: if self.modules is expected to be used directly, it should be a documented part of the api |
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| 20:47.17 | Tem | there is a talent to make it more |
| 20:47.29 | MoonWolf | make what more ? |
| 20:47.29 | ckknight_ | kergoth, I mean function self:IterateModules() return pairs(self.modules) end |
| 20:47.40 | ckknight_ | and no, it shouldn't be accessed directly |
| 20:47.57 | kergoth | ah, yes thatd work fine, just an extra function call. |
| 20:48.24 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4064 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: AceModuleCore - added :IterateModules() |
| 20:48.34 | Mikma | ZOMG |
| 20:48.38 | Mikma | error with ouf2 |
| 20:48.43 | MoonWolf | GMOZ |
| 20:48.44 | Mikma | i joined party and got error with ipairs |
| 20:48.45 | Neronix | ckknight_: Win |
| 20:48.50 | Mikma | sorry pairs :P |
| 20:48.52 | ckknight_ | win? |
| 20:48.59 | kergoth | ckknight_: i'm just thinking about clean ways to offload portions of the chat commands to modules without them having to modify the aceoptions table before console registration |
| 20:49.04 | Neronix | You win for putting in IterateModules |
| 20:49.13 | ckknight_ | kergoth, you can modify it after, no problem |
| 20:49.31 | kergoth | oh really? it doesnt copy the table, uses a reference to it directly? |
| 20:49.42 | ckknight_ | yea |
| 20:49.47 | ckknight_ | hehe |
| 20:49.49 | kergoth | should probably document that somewhere :) |
| 20:49.57 | ckknight_ | I figured that'd be implied |
| 20:50.22 | kergoth | i'd see that as an assumption that may or may not be valid. it isnt clear what the registration function is doing with the arguments |
| 20:50.28 | ckknight_ | yea, but basically, you handle modules this way: |
| 20:50.50 | ckknight_ | module:RegisterChatCommand("/addon_module", myOptionsTable) |
| 20:51.13 | ckknight_ | myCoreOptionsTable.args['myModule'] = myOptionsTable |
| 20:51.29 | Neronix | How expensive is using AceModuleCore? |
| 20:51.35 | ckknight_ | horribly cheap. |
| 20:51.41 | ckknight_ | atrocious even |
| 20:51.45 | kergoth | then the individual modules modify the optionis table when they get set up.. clean |
| 20:51.48 | Neronix | I don't want NanoStats to turn into MilliStats:P |
| 20:51.57 | Neronix | or KiloStats |
| 20:51.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:52.01 | Mikma | haste_: everytime i join party i get error with oUF2 |
| 20:52.04 | Slayman | Tem: my calcs say it's 11,86 mana per int |
| 20:52.24 | ckknight_ | Neronix, it's very cheap, just know that |
| 20:52.32 | Tem | ah, then perhaps the talent is what increases it to 16ish |
| 20:52.43 | MoonWolf | kergoth and ckknight_ , do you think this is a good response to the "why do all the ace2 addons have all the ace2code in them"question ? |
| 20:52.43 | MoonWolf | This is because of the embedded lib design. |
| 20:52.44 | MoonWolf | But do not worry, the ace2 parts are only loaded once, there is code to check if the current version or a higher of the embedded libs is already loaded, if so it will stop loading itself, the few bytes of data that is loaded for this check is then removed at the next garbage collection cycle. |
| 20:53.09 | ckknight_ | right. |
| 20:53.12 | ckknight_ | good answer |
| 20:53.14 | kergoth | looks good |
| 20:53.21 | MoonWolf | submitting then. |
| 20:53.27 | Neronix | Looks fine |
| 20:53.32 | Slayman | that's the one possibility or thottbot is wrong about the percentage of Blink |
| 20:53.54 | Slayman | @ Tem |
| 20:54.10 | Tem | oh right |
| 20:54.13 | Tem | blink is a percentage |
| 20:54.21 | Tem | but that's of base mana, yes? |
| 20:54.23 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 20:54.24 | Slayman | 35% as thott says |
| 20:54.28 | Tem | wow |
| 20:54.30 | hyperChipmunk | 35% base mana |
| 20:54.31 | Tem | that's expensive |
| 20:54.35 | Slayman | yeah i calculated back from that |
| 20:54.55 | Slayman | stripped naked i have 2013 mana @ lvl 45 |
| 20:54.58 | Tem | wouldn't it just be easier to put items on? |
| 20:55.12 | Slayman | blink is 335Mana |
| 20:55.18 | MoonWolf | damnit |
| 20:55.22 | MoonWolf | i have negative karma |
| 20:55.32 | Slayman | 335 != 35% x 2013 |
| 20:55.49 | Neronix | MoonWolf: Voted up |
| 20:56.03 | Slayman | so i said (335 / 35) x 100 = base mana |
| 20:56.27 | Slayman | 957,14.. Mana |
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| 20:56.50 | Slayman | 2013- 957,14 = 1055,86 |
| 20:57.03 | Slayman | 1055,86 => 89Int |
| 20:58.31 | Tem | Slayman, I get 15 mana per int |
| 20:58.40 | Slayman | mmh putting on trousers i also get 15 mana |
| 20:58.41 | Tem | or, 16.5 mana per int with talents |
| 20:58.51 | Slayman | where |
| 20:58.57 | ag` | externals+tortoiseSVN is killing me |
| 20:59.00 | Slayman | is the error in the above calc? |
| 20:59.10 | Slayman | i don't get it |
| 21:00.58 | Slayman | fucking game that is |
| 21:01.45 | Mikma | damn i keep getting errors with ouf and witchhunt |
| 21:03.06 | Mikma | Interface\AddOns\oUF\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:49: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got number) |
| 21:03.13 | Mikma | if i join party with newest ouf |
| 21:03.23 | Mikma | but if i have witchhunt loaded the error changes to witchhunt.lua |
| 21:03.26 | Mikma | but same line |
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| 21:05.23 | ckknight | Mikma, looking into it |
| 21:05.33 | Mikma | ckknight: oh, okay :) |
| 21:05.48 | ckknight | oh, crap |
| 21:05.51 | ckknight | "my bad" |
| 21:06.19 | hyperChipmunk | ok, so when we have big error messages with AceLocale-2.0 |
| 21:06.28 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4065 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - fix line 48 bug |
| 21:06.40 | Amadeo | hm |
| 21:06.46 | Amadeo | Neronix said that bug was from TinyTip |
| 21:06.50 | Amadeo | and I think he fixed it |
| 21:06.52 | Amadeo | wonder what happens now |
| 21:06.52 | Amadeo | haha |
| 21:07.01 | Mikma | oh nice |
| 21:07.11 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, big error messages? |
| 21:07.13 | Mikma | should i redownload witchhunt + ouf or just the file and replace it in the folders? |
| 21:07.14 | hyperChipmunk | we'd have something like: ["Default destination for autosend items is |cffffff78%s|r."] = "Default destination for autosend items is |cffffff78%s|r." |
| 21:07.20 | ckknight | right. |
| 21:07.42 | hyperChipmunk | that seems like it could get out of hand |
| 21:07.46 | ckknight | which is honestly the best solution I see |
| 21:07.51 | ckknight | I don't think so |
| 21:07.59 | ckknight | it's the simplest for localization |
| 21:08.04 | ckknight | I took queues from how gettext is done |
| 21:08.10 | ckknight | err |
| 21:08.11 | ckknight | cues |
| 21:08.39 | Neronix | Amadeo: It was |
| 21:08.39 | kergoth | figured you did. L is not unlike the usual _ |
| 21:08.44 | ckknight | right |
| 21:08.50 | ckknight | except _ is lua's garbage deal |
| 21:08.59 | Neronix | But the way that function in AceLibrary worked previously, it was just asking for bugs like that |
| 21:09.01 | kergoth | _ isnt special, its just a convention |
| 21:09.04 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 21:09.10 | kergoth | but yeah, avoiding conflicts with user conventions is a Good Thing(tm) |
| 21:09.10 | Amadeo | Neronix: so all should be good still? |
| 21:09.11 | ckknight | Neronix, it was using a global by accident |
| 21:09.19 | Neronix | ckknight: Yeah |
| 21:09.29 | ckknight | kergoth, well, you could actually do local _ = AceLocale:new("thing") |
| 21:09.31 | ckknight | no big deal |
| 21:09.33 | Neronix | and addons shouldn't be using a global called tmp anyway |
| 21:09.37 | ckknight | it's up to the user |
| 21:09.45 | ckknight | right. |
| 21:12.27 | MoonWolf | a global tmp var |
| 21:12.34 | MoonWolf | thats asking for trouble |
| 21:13.21 | Amadeo | Anyone ever convince Mikk to Ace2 his addon? |
| 21:13.22 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 21:13.51 | kergoth | okay, i'm working on this addon, and a number of my modules are both modules and 'elements' for this addon. would it be safe to subclass AceAddon and set self.moduleClass to the new class for subsequent NewModule calls? i want to ensure that my modules comply with the element interface. |
| 21:13.51 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.ca/79899 <----so this is correct |
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| 21:15.46 | ckknight | kergoth, I don't recommend it |
| 21:15.49 | kergoth | hmm, on second thought, i could subclass acemodulecore and change the mixin methods |
| 21:15.52 | kergoth | thatd rpobably be safer |
| 21:15.57 | Amadeo | ag`: Is that MiniGroup2, or a new addon? |
| 21:15.59 | ckknight | you can't subclass a mixin |
| 21:16.04 | mjc | MG2 uses a lot of memory =( |
| 21:16.07 | ckknight | why do you want to change moduleClass? |
| 21:16.18 | ag` | Amadeo: It's a new addon |
| 21:16.26 | Amadeo | very cool |
| 21:16.31 | kergoth | if you cant subclass a mixin, you broke my model. Mixin is a class like any other. |
| 21:16.37 | ckknight | it is |
| 21:16.38 | Mikma | wtf :D |
| 21:16.43 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4495-1-arcana-minimap.html |
| 21:16.44 | ckknight | but mixins themselves are instances of the Mixin class |
| 21:16.52 | ckknight | I didn't break your model, that's how it was |
| 21:16.53 | ag` | anyway it's in its pretty early stages so don't expect to raid with it |
| 21:17.07 | kergoth | ahhh right right, gotcha |
| 21:17.13 | mjc | everyone that's bored check out my post about all the aced addons I used and see if there's anything you want to add :p http://t4eguild.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=435 |
| 21:17.19 | ckknight | kergoth, why do you want another class besides AceAddon? |
| 21:17.52 | kergoth | because my modules are objects that comply with a completely different interface, and interfaces are the class's responsibility |
| 21:17.53 | Mikma | i mean really... |
| 21:18.05 | Mikma | check out the description in that addon |
| 21:18.05 | hyperChipmunk | self.cmd:Msg is what, now? self:print? |
| 21:18.09 | Mikma | that's really weird lol |
| 21:18.27 | ckknight | kergoth, and altering .modulePrototype won't do? |
| 21:18.29 | Tem | Mikma, do you have a complilation out somewhere? |
| 21:18.30 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, self:Print |
| 21:18.57 | Mikma | Tem: yeah but i didn't think it's out public hehe http://wow.reaktio.net/comix |
| 21:18.59 | kergoth | of course it will, but i want to -force- my modules to comply with the defined interface. thats the whole point of supporting interfaces. |
| 21:19.03 | ckknight | oh |
| 21:19.08 | Mikma | haven't updated it in month or more |
| 21:19.08 | ckknight | then just make an interface |
| 21:19.26 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 21:19.32 | ckknight | that wouldn't work cause modules are instances |
| 21:19.40 | hyperChipmunk | where is that in the API? |
| 21:19.46 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, AceConsole |
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| 21:19.57 | kergoth | right, hence my desire to have a different moduelclass |
| 21:19.58 | hyperChipmunk | ah, just found it =) |
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| 21:20.08 | ckknight | kergoth, okay then |
| 21:20.12 | ckknight | hey Kael |
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| 21:20.27 | Kaelten | whats going on guys? |
| 21:20.29 | ckknight | kergoth, would it be worthwhile to have AceModuleClass be able to change the class? |
| 21:20.34 | ckknight | err, AceModuleCore* |
| 21:21.02 | Kaelten | change the class? you mean isntead of using AceAddon-2.0? |
| 21:21.05 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:21.14 | kergoth | for the modules, yeah. not sure if thats the best approach to it, let me think a minute |
| 21:21.15 | ckknight | kergoth's doing something crazy |
| 21:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 21:21.22 | kergoth | dont i usually? ;) |
| 21:21.26 | ckknight | suppose so |
| 21:21.31 | Kaelten | whats he doing? |
| 21:21.40 | ckknight | something with modules |
| 21:21.43 | hyperChipmunk | the proper term is 'kergothian' |
| 21:21.53 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4067 10ag_UnitFrames/libs/ (9 files in 9 dirs): ag_UnitFrames - cleaned up some redundant files |
| 21:22.01 | kergoth | i want my modules to be instances of a different class, one that forces them to comply with a different interface |
| 21:22.17 | ckknight | btw, Kaelten, :IterateModules() and :SetModuleMixins(...) are now in AceModuleCore |
| 21:22.24 | Mikma | ag`: neat, you deleted 32 files or so ;) |
| 21:22.42 | Kaelten | kergoth talking about in general? |
| 21:23.04 | Kaelten | or just in your addon? |
| 21:23.11 | hyperChipmunk | I don't think Kergoth has addons |
| 21:23.14 | Mikma | oh right, it's the texture i have on my minimap or something |
| 21:23.15 | hyperChipmunk | so I'm guessing in general =) |
| 21:23.23 | kergoth | specific case. i'm writing an assist logic addon along the lines of smartassist, but without all the cruft. i'll have a number of "elements" which have a specific interface the main addon expects in order to create its unit weighting for its formula |
| 21:23.31 | kergoth | and i want to force those modules to comply with that interface |
| 21:23.36 | kergoth | hence creating a new class for teh modules |
| 21:23.52 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 21:24.08 | kergoth | it really isnt all that crazy, i'm just actually -using- the object model more than most ;) |
| 21:24.14 | mjc | hum, I wonder if there's an exclude parameter to /usr/bin/zip |
| 21:24.17 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 21:24.21 | mjc | -x |
| 21:24.39 | ag` | Mikma: trying to figure out how to link Ace2 into my addon on the SVN |
| 21:24.39 | kergoth | ckknight: i have a crazy possibility |
| 21:24.50 | mjc | Elkano wrote elkbuffbar? |
| 21:24.51 | kergoth | i cant subclass a mixin, but i can subclass Mixin and mix in that mixin into my new mixin! |
| 21:24.52 | mjc | or someone else |
| 21:25.09 | ckknight | ag`, http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Svn:external |
| 21:25.10 | hyperChipmunk | it was written by an actual elk |
| 21:25.15 | hyperChipmunk | no kidding |
| 21:25.21 | Elkano | I wrote ElkBuffBar and a lot of other stuff ^^ |
| 21:25.29 | kergoth | itemdb kicks ass |
| 21:25.30 | MoonWolf | kergoth, and that wont cause some sort of bugged behaviour ? |
| 21:25.32 | ckknight | kergoth, that doesn't really work, hate to break it to you |
| 21:25.32 | kergoth | when it doesnt spam my chat |
| 21:25.40 | Mikma | ag`: i have no idea on that one |
| 21:25.44 | Kaelten | kergoth: thats a scary concept.... |
| 21:25.50 | ckknight | also, feel free to just do mixin:embed(myObject) |
| 21:25.52 | kergoth | ckknight: why not? |
| 21:26.02 | Elkano | well, kergoth, unfortionaly there are some problems I can't fix 100% :/ blame blizzard :/ |
| 21:26.11 | kergoth | :\ |
| 21:26.40 | Elkano | btw: ever tryed my FramesResized? |
| 21:27.04 | mjc | Elkano: I like EBB. thanks! :) |
| 21:27.11 | kergoth | ckknight: i still dont see why it wouldnt work. any class can have mixins. a subclass of Mixin should be no exception |
| 21:27.35 | ckknight | guess so |
| 21:27.38 | kergoth | i'd just have to instantiate an object from my new mixin class and mix that in |
| 21:28.01 | Mikma | ckknight: now i got another error... otravi_UnitFrames.lua:448: AceEvent-2.0: Bad argument #nan to '?' (nil expected, got string) |
| 21:28.11 | Kaelten | I don't think mixins can override methods, so you wouldn't be able to overwrite NewModule |
| 21:28.15 | ckknight | err, crap |
| 21:28.24 | mjc | bigwigs fubar menu can't be used to set settings anymore |
| 21:29.01 | kergoth | Kaelten: you've got it backwards. mixins cant override methods, but i can override the methods a mixin put in my class. |
| 21:29.02 | ckknight | Mikma, what does otravi_UnitFrames.lua:448 say? |
| 21:29.06 | kergoth | Kaelten: :) |
| 21:29.22 | Kaelten | true |
| 21:29.44 | Mikma | ckknight: if(self:IsEventRegistered("PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED")) then self:UnregisterEvent("PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED") end |
| 21:30.01 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4068 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - fix UnregisterEvent bug. |
| 21:30.03 | kergoth | at any rate, being able to customize the class of an addon's modules would probably be a generally useful thing |
| 21:30.06 | Mikma | ckknight: and that's what exactly happens. when i join party i get that :) |
| 21:30.22 | ckknight | Mikma, fixed. |
| 21:30.30 | Mikma | omg you are really fast |
| 21:30.34 | Tem | Mikma, I can't download from your link |
| 21:30.38 | ckknight | kergoth, what's wrong with altering the prototype? |
| 21:30.48 | Mikma | Tem: mm ok try without the /comix |
| 21:32.13 | Tem | Mikma, I can see the directory |
| 21:32.17 | Tem | and I can go into it |
| 21:32.34 | Tem | but when I try to download the comp, I get a forbidden page |
| 21:32.36 | Mikma | Tem: the link may be fucked up, use the latest version in the directory |
| 21:32.40 | kergoth | ckknight: once again, i want to force module objects to comply with an interface. and you're assuming i dont want to go further than that, defining a custom constructor for my elements. |
| 21:32.54 | kergoth | i can come up with any number of reasons to want a custom class for your module objects |
| 21:32.58 | Mikma | it's not updated tho in 1month or so since i have been working on bartender :P |
| 21:33.02 | kergoth | hrmmmm |
| 21:33.03 | ckknight | oh, you can define a custom constructor easy |
| 21:33.32 | ckknight | function core.modulePrototype:init(...) end |
| 21:33.58 | kergoth | the fact is, we have an object model for a reason. if i create a class for elements in my addon and still want them to be valid modules for the acemodulecore mixed in methods, i should be able to. |
| 21:34.34 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:34.45 | kergoth | i dont know what the best way to make that happen is, but.. |
| 21:34.52 | Kaelten | well what kinda changes can we make to the api to make that possible |
| 21:35.00 | Kaelten | self:SetClass()? |
| 21:35.06 | ckknight | probably all of 1 method which I already proposed |
| 21:35.06 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:35.18 | ckknight | :SetModuleClass("name" or class) |
| 21:35.44 | Kaelten | you call it before you do any NewModule |
| 21:35.55 | ckknight | and everybody wins |
| 21:35.58 | ckknight | except Tekcub |
| 21:36.09 | kergoth | thatd work. somethign in the back of my mind says theres a cleaner way, but that little voice isnt telling me what it is, so thatll do |
| 21:36.13 | kergoth | :P |
| 21:36.33 | Kaelten | well we can always come up with a cleanerway after the fact |
| 21:36.38 | ckknight | alright |
| 21:38.42 | Tem | Tekcub, are you here? |
| 21:39.05 | *** part/#wowace Cairenn (n=Karen@CPE00045a2bfcbc-CM000f212f84be.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:39.07 | kergoth | ckknight: where is the interface checked against, to ensure an object complies |
| 21:39.26 | ckknight | kergoth, when :new() is called, it verifies the interfaces |
| 21:40.47 | Mikma | omg, msbt is neat! |
| 21:41.18 | ckknight | msbt? |
| 21:41.23 | netcurse | on est en finallllllllllll |
| 21:41.30 | Mikma | mikscrollingbattletext |
| 21:41.35 | Mikma | 1.02 is on curse |
| 21:43.52 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4069 10Ace2/AceModuleCore-2.0/AceModuleCore-2.0.lua: AceModuleCore - added :SetModuleClass(class) |
| 21:44.05 | mjc | Mikma: http://325i.org/wow/hope_addons_07052006.jpg:p |
| 21:44.06 | mjc | er |
| 21:44.08 | mjc | http://325i.org/wow/hope_addons_07052006.jpg |
| 21:44.15 | Kaelten | now we need to figure out how many things we just broke :s |
| 21:44.22 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:44.33 | mjc | brb |
| 21:44.49 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 21:44.57 | Mikma | mjc: yeah, only i did put it on smaller font |
| 21:45.02 | Mikma | and clearer |
| 21:45.42 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4070 10OneBag/OneBag.xml: OneBag - Cleanup |
| 21:45.49 | kergoth | Mikma: hmm, is msbt like sct then? |
| 21:46.04 | Mikma | kergoth: exactly like sct but i think it runs smoother on my lowend mac |
| 21:46.18 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4071 10OneBank/ (OneBank.lua OneBank.xml): OneBank - Adding bagbar |
| 21:46.21 | kergoth | nifty |
| 21:46.25 | kergoth | will have to try it |
| 21:46.36 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r4072 10OneCore/templates.xml: OneCore - Cleanup |
| 21:47.17 | kergoth | mjc: looking good, you just need some better looking unitframes. hehe |
| 21:47.46 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4073 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - fixed standalone lua error |
| 21:47.53 | *** join/#wowace ag`_ (n=andreasg@0x57317a46.bynxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 21:48.04 | Tem | oh hell yes |
| 21:48.07 | haste_ | http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-realm-talnivarr-en&T=14764&P=1 << some people from Norway scare me |
| 21:48.16 | Tem | they made the fubar exp display thing pretty |
| 21:48.35 | Amadeo | Kaelten: How do you adjust OneBank settings? |
| 21:48.37 | MoonWolf | yay |
| 21:48.47 | ag`_ | Ok, when using svn:externals to link to the Ace2 library, where on the SVN should I link from? /trunk/Ace2 ? |
| 21:49.11 | kergoth | Tem: fuxpfu? |
| 21:49.15 | Tem | that's the one |
| 21:49.26 | Mikma | Tem: /cheer wobin |
| 21:49.28 | kergoth | yeah, its gorgeous. i love the new dropshadowey thing |
| 21:49.36 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: you've used bulkmail, right? |
| 21:49.40 | Tem | now it just needs to support other things |
| 21:49.48 | Tem | I mean the rep thing |
| 21:49.58 | Tem | god I need food and caffeine |
| 21:50.07 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: yup, i use it every day |
| 21:50.12 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 21:50.15 | Mikma | Tem: it _has_ the rep in it |
| 21:50.19 | Tem | yay |
| 21:50.26 | Gngsk | FuXPFU? |
| 21:50.28 | hyperChipmunk | actually, this is something I suppose I can ask in general |
| 21:50.47 | hyperChipmunk | this is the usage statement for one of my chat commands: |
| 21:50.55 | hyperChipmunk | "add items to your AutoSend list (Usage: /bulkmail autosend add <destination> <item> [item2 item3 ...]", |
| 21:51.08 | Mikma | Gngsk: yeap |
| 21:51.15 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4074 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - warning no longer fires if OnInitialize isn't declared |
| 21:51.23 | hyperChipmunk | now, where does that fall in the AceConsole categories? |
| 21:51.27 | Mikma | ckknight: thanks for the really fast fixed, no errors now :) |
| 21:51.47 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Ace2_Categories |
| 21:51.58 | hyperChipmunk | nono |
| 21:52.01 | hyperChipmunk | i mean types =P |
| 21:52.05 | ckknight | oh |
| 21:52.12 | ckknight | type = 'text' |
| 21:52.13 | hyperChipmunk | do I take that as a text? |
| 21:52.14 | ckknight | input = true |
| 21:52.20 | hyperChipmunk | ah aha |
| 21:52.44 | hyperChipmunk | oooh |
| 21:52.49 | ckknight | actually I may have to make input more intelligent, i.e. not split up items |
| 21:52.49 | hyperChipmunk | oh daddy likes |
| 21:52.52 | ckknight | cause I think it will now |
| 21:53.11 | hyperChipmunk | splitting them up is fine |
| 21:53.15 | ckknight | no |
| 21:53.25 | ckknight | I mean "[42" "pound" "catfish]" |
| 21:53.27 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 21:53.36 | hyperChipmunk | that not fine |
| 21:53.39 | ckknight | right |
| 21:53.43 | ckknight | I'll look into it |
| 21:53.44 | hyperChipmunk | also |
| 21:53.51 | kergoth | good luck getting that pattern right. lua's "regex" is weak |
| 21:53.54 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:54.03 | hyperChipmunk | you ought to be able to not put spaces between items, and still have them be separate |
| 21:54.16 | hyperChipmunk | if you want to just spam-click the links |
| 21:54.39 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:54.51 | hyperChipmunk | /bm autosend add Foochar [Big Sword][Bigger Sword][Biggest Sword] |
| 21:54.54 | hyperChipmunk | instead of |
| 21:54.58 | hyperChipmunk | /bm autosend add Foochar [Big Sword] [Bigger Sword] [Biggest Sword] |
| 21:55.02 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:55.08 | ckknight | um... |
| 21:55.14 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:55.18 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 21:55.21 | hyperChipmunk | I can give you some help |
| 21:55.29 | ckknight | what does an item link look like? |
| 21:55.31 | hyperChipmunk | I already do such a separation |
| 21:55.35 | ckknight | the full string |
| 21:55.41 | kergoth | if you're gonna be that fancy about it, maybe you shoudl have a whole new type, 'items' rather than text, and manipulate it differently? |
| 21:55.48 | ckknight | kergoth, nah. |
| 21:55.56 | hyperChipmunk | no, because even my example is mixed |
| 21:56.03 | hyperChipmunk | there's an optional text field for the destination |
| 21:56.04 | hyperChipmunk | then items |
| 21:56.09 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:56.19 | Tem | Mikma, what's the minimap thing supposed to do? |
| 21:56.21 | hyperChipmunk | if the first argument is an item, it uses a default destination =) |
| 21:56.40 | Mikma | Tem: what thing? my minimap? it's only a texture |
| 21:57.15 | hyperChipmunk | I'd rather keep the flexibility than have ckknight try to code all possible systems someone might use |
| 21:57.21 | kergoth | mjc: http://kergoth.com/images/wow_018.jpg is my current setup. wonder how mbst would look with dhud |
| 21:57.36 | Mikma | hey, is there any addons that prevent you from stealthing if you have any kind of dot on? |
| 21:57.54 | hyperChipmunk | is there a way to pass the entire string as a single input |
| 21:58.00 | Tem | Mikma, so, it doesn't rotate? |
| 21:58.05 | Tem | I'm so disappointed |
| 21:58.17 | hyperChipmunk | or do i have to concat 'em myself |
| 21:58.20 | Mikma | Tem: heh no, but the arcane's version seems to do that with chronos |
| 21:58.24 | Neronix | haste_: I fixed some oUF stuff |
| 21:58.26 | Tem | aye |
| 21:58.30 | Tem | which is why I didn't install it |
| 21:58.33 | hyperChipmunk | oog, this will get complicated =\ |
| 21:58.40 | haste_ | Neronix, spit it out fast - I was heading towards my bed :< |
| 21:58.55 | Neronix | I fixed the compare number to nil error when using mobhealth2 |
| 21:59.00 | *** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 21:59.03 | Neronix | And slightly optimised the mobhealth code too |
| 21:59.04 | Tuplad | hm, sup with the site ? |
| 21:59.07 | kergoth | hmm, i should disable the elkbuffbar weapon buff display on my characters that use weaponrebuff |
| 21:59.09 | Tuplad | I want to see ag_UnitFrames |
| 21:59.35 | haste_ | Neronix, Well, slap it in then :p |
| 22:00.20 | Tem | Tekcub, you here? |
| 22:00.25 | Tem | Tem to Tekcub |
| 22:00.28 | Tem | do you read? |
| 22:00.31 | Tuplad | meh, wowi wont work, wowace wont work - is it me or are the sites down ? |
| 22:00.31 | Tem | (over) |
| 22:00.32 | kergoth | i cant wait till more addons are using acedb-2.0, so we have decent profile selection |
| 22:01.09 | Tem | kergoth, you familliar with xchat? |
| 22:01.34 | kergoth | somewhat. i use it at home. use irssi when i'm at work |
| 22:01.49 | Tem | what does a yellowish orb next to someone's name mean? |
| 22:02.01 | Tem | (in the userlist) |
| 22:02.04 | kergoth | i dont remember the colors, but the orbs are either ops or voice |
| 22:02.11 | Tem | green is ops |
| 22:02.16 | kergoth | its voice then |
| 22:02.16 | Tem | so yellow must be voice |
| 22:02.18 | Mikma | Tuplad: buy a interweb |
| 22:02.24 | Amadeo | Neronix: Lexan\AceAddon-2.0.lua:287: attempt to index global `_G' (a nil value) |
| 22:02.28 | Tuplad | :< |
| 22:02.28 | *** mode/#wowace [-v Industrial] by Tem |
| 22:02.29 | kergoth | yeah, that just meanst hey can speak if you flip the moderated channel mode |
| 22:02.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Industrial] by Tem |
| 22:02.40 | Tem | yep, that's what it was |
| 22:03.09 | Tem | any idea why tek and indi have voice set? |
| 22:03.09 | ag`_ | kergoth: Sorry for bugging you so much. I'm having trouble adding Ace2 as an external to my project. I can't figure out which directory svn:externals should point at. |
| 22:03.23 | kergoth | Tem: to make them feel special? |
| 22:03.24 | kergoth | no idea |
| 22:03.30 | Tem | lol |
| 22:03.36 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4075 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - fixed _G bug. |
| 22:03.39 | hyperChipmunk | ag`_: all of them |
| 22:03.40 | kergoth | ag`_: afaik /trunk/Ace2 should be fine |
| 22:03.43 | Amadeo | thanks ckknight :) |
| 22:03.50 | kergoth | or you can just pull in the specific ace2 libs that you need |
| 22:03.55 | kergoth | as seperate externals |
| 22:04.35 | Tem | I'd rather show which I *don't* need |
| 22:04.41 | Tem | since adding externals is a bitch |
| 22:04.41 | Amadeo | Neronix: Nevermind :P |
| 22:05.40 | Amadeo | now I'm getting... |
| 22:05.55 | Amadeo | WitchHunt.lua:56: attempt to call method `RegisterDB' (a nil value) |
| 22:06.02 | haste_ | good night ;) |
| 22:06.22 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4076 10ag_UnitFrames/libs/: ag_UnitFrames - added /trunk/Ace2 as externals |
| 22:06.41 | kergoth | how efficient is aceevent-2.0's triggerevent? is there much overhead if it gets used a lot? :) |
| 22:06.53 | ckknight | kergoth, it's no overhead if nothing is registered to it |
| 22:07.01 | ckknight | otherwise O(n) |
| 22:07.01 | Amadeo | kergoth: You're being very secretive about your addon! |
| 22:07.02 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: "|cffa335ee|Hitem:18843:2564:0:0|h[Grand Marshal's Right Hand Blade]|h|r" is a link |
| 22:07.18 | ckknight | where n is based on amount of registrations |
| 22:07.21 | Neronix | kergoth wrote an addon? :O |
| 22:07.26 | kergoth | Amadeo: nope, this one is just a minimal assist logic addon, for assisting based on class, # of people targeting, etc. a sane weighting system |
| 22:07.29 | kergoth | Neronix: in progress |
| 22:07.33 | kergoth | after that i've got a few others planned |
| 22:07.36 | Amadeo | oh ok :) |
| 22:07.36 | Neronix | zomg |
| 22:07.45 | kergoth | ckknight: okay, cool, as long as it isnt worse than that i'm happy |
| 22:07.50 | Amadeo | brb |
| 22:07.50 | Tuplad | screenshot of ag_uf plx |
| 22:07.54 | ckknight | nope |
| 22:08.03 | ckknight | and no memory increase by using it |
| 22:08.03 | ag`_ | Hmm, that worked out wrong. Now I have in "myaddon/libs/Ace2/AceLibrary..." instead of "myaddon/libs/AceLibrary..." |
| 22:08.18 | ckknight | ag`_, right. you need to do individual folders |
| 22:08.38 | kergoth | ag`_: then you should remove libs, and add an svn:externals to the root of your addon dir to libs |
| 22:08.46 | kergoth | or do what ck says, and add all of them individually to libs's externals |
| 22:09.14 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: for now, what's the easiest way to get the input as one string? Use function(...) string.concat(arg)? or is there something built in that I'm missing? |
| 22:09.29 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, input = false |
| 22:09.42 | hyperChipmunk | will that pass to a function? |
| 22:09.52 | kergoth | Amadeo: http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/MicroAssist/README.TXT |
| 22:09.54 | ckknight | if input is true, it splits up the string |
| 22:09.54 | kergoth | Amadeo: :P |
| 22:09.59 | ckknight | if it's false, it keeps it as one string |
| 22:10.02 | hyperChipmunk | okay |
| 22:10.22 | hyperChipmunk | then I'll use my existing code for now =) |
| 22:11.44 | hyperChipmunk | it will send it to the 'set' function? |
| 22:11.54 | Tuplad | Is there a screenie up of ag_UnitFrames ? I cant access it on svn ;\ "The requested URL /root/trunk/ag_UnitFrames/libs/AceAddon/ was not found on this server." |
| 22:15.00 | kergoth | hmm. for assisting, i presume one would want the time between hitting the button and the unit being targeted to be as small as possible, so any actual work/computation should have been done in the background |
| 22:15.20 | kergoth | thats the premise i've been working from so far. making it more lazy could get someoen killed |
| 22:19.32 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r4077 10Ace2/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Ace2 - removed lua standalone hacks |
| 22:19.59 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r4078 10Ace2/ (FakeWoW.lua UnitTest.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added more stuff to FakeWoW.lua |
| 22:20.30 | CIA-7 | 03ag * r4079 10ag_UnitFrames/libs/: ag_UnitFrames - updated externals |
| 22:22.43 | Amadeo | kergoth: Cool :) |
| 22:24.54 | Amadeo | f'ing "Login failure" all day on the forums |
| 22:24.56 | Amadeo | I hate that :( |
| 22:25.32 | Tuplad | ;( |
| 22:26.52 | Amadeo | Someone fix WitchHunt :( |
| 22:27.43 | Mikma | fix how? |
| 22:28.13 | Amadeo | WitchHunt.lua:56: attempt to call method `RegisterDB' (a nil value) |
| 22:28.25 | Amadeo | started after ckknight fixed the _G thing in Ace2 I think |
| 22:28.37 | Mikma | right then i'm not updating lol |
| 22:29.14 | ag`_ | Thanks people, it is working like it is supposed to now! |
| 22:29.37 | Tem | yay. easy tweaking of fubar textures to let FuXPFu be my border |
| 22:29.53 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=andreasg@0x57317a46.bynxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 22:30.29 | Amadeo | ag`: Any preliminary screenshots? :) |
| 22:30.34 | Amadeo | I'm sure I spelled that damn word wrong |
| 22:31.03 | ag` | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.04 | kergoth | ckknight: is it safe to modify the defaults registered with RegisterDefaults in acedb after the registration? |
| 22:31.17 | Tem | ckknight, why does FuBar Insist on overflowing plugins even when I tell it not to? |
| 22:31.37 | Amadeo | ag`: Oh I know, I'm just curious how you're styling it |
| 22:31.39 | Tem | hmm, wrong questsion |
| 22:31.54 | Tem | why does FuBar not remember my Overflow Plugins setting? |
| 22:31.58 | ag` | Amadeo: But it's going to have a pretty flexible look, the default will probably be the one of MG2, but it can look like anything easily |
| 22:32.07 | Amadeo | Nice :) |
| 22:33.39 | ag` | Anyway thanks for the SVN help people |
| 22:34.13 | ag` | It seems pretty powerful |
| 22:35.03 | kergoth | indeed it is :) |
| 22:36.01 | kergoth | hmm, is the standby stuff in acedb because disabled state wouldnt be persistant without a db to store the state in? |
| 22:39.24 | Tem | oh my god |
| 22:39.33 | Tem | something is spending WAY too much time processing a BagUpdate |
| 22:39.41 | Tem | ooh, /me has a guess |
| 22:39.44 | *** join/#wowace FryGuy (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:40.07 | Tem | probably the shitty Mage Necrosis addon /me installed for shits earlier today |
| 22:41.58 | Tuplad | Anyone using ag_UnitFrames? |
| 22:41.59 | Tem | golly |
| 22:42.00 | Tem | how did I guess |
| 22:42.22 | Tuplad | o_O |
| 22:43.03 | Tem | it was taking on average 200 milliseconds for it to process every BAG_UPDATE |
| 22:43.20 | hyperChipmunk | the "put this in your .toc" part of the documentation needs updating; the files are called e.g. AceConsole-2.0.lua for all except AceLibrary |
| 22:43.28 | hyperChipmunk | the docs just say, e.g. AceConsole.lua |
| 22:43.34 | kergoth | hehe, i was gonna try out that addon tem, thanks, now i wont bother |
| 22:43.42 | Tem | next longest is AceEventFrame (so that's, ALL ace addons I have installed COMBINED) taking about 5ms per BAG_UPDATE |
| 22:44.16 | Tem | kergoth, so, besides the fact that it's shittily coded, it's also got interface issues. |
| 22:44.20 | Tem | don't bother indeed |
| 22:44.30 | Mikma | Tuplad: <0131> <ag`> Amadeo: It isn't ready for day-to-day use yet |
| 22:45.10 | ag` | People can check it out, it runs fine without errors, it's just not very advanced yet |
| 22:46.35 | Tem | kergoth, DONT open the code to that thing |
| 22:46.44 | Tem | for your safety and health, just don't do it |
| 22:46.46 | Industrial | < Tuplad> Anyone using ag_UnitFrames? |
| 22:46.49 | Industrial | wots that |
| 22:47.01 | ag` | It's just me messing around with AceOO |
| 22:47.05 | Industrial | o :) |
| 22:48.41 | Mikma | Industrial: check out svn mofo! |
| 22:49.27 | Industrial | got a screenshot? :P |
| 22:50.44 | ag` | It's not far enough in development to get any wow factor from screenshots |
| 22:51.07 | Mikma | ag`: betascreenshots are best |
| 22:51.20 | Mikma | when we look later on another new screenshots we can see what has been changed |
| 22:51.27 | Tem | ag`, screenshots or it doesn't exist |
| 22:52.51 | Tem | oh god |
| 22:52.52 | Tem | fuck me |
| 22:53.01 | phyber | no, I'm busy. |
| 22:53.06 | *** join/#wowace gnorlish (n=jaydee@ny-lackawannacadent4-chtwga3b-b-121.buf.adelphia.net) |
| 22:53.21 | phyber | checking out OneBag/Bank :) |
| 22:53.34 | Tem | mental note: DONT run /mrplow theworks when you have an addon that spends a .2 seconds on each BAG_UPDATE |
| 22:53.44 | hyperChipmunk | owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwned |
| 22:54.04 | hyperChipmunk | owned very very slowly |
| 22:55.35 | Tem | rofl |
| 22:55.42 | CIA-7 | 03handdol * r4080 10BabbleLib/Babble-Class-2.0/Babble-Class-2.0.lua: Korean localization added |
| 22:55.43 | Tem | go stand in the spot where the fire fest fires used to be |
| 22:57.09 | *** join/#wowace Kyahx|afk (n=Kyahx@72.2.212.239) |
| 22:57.23 | kergoth | ckknight: i need a hand with something. if i do self:SetProfile("char"), it sets to a character specific profile, but 'self.db.profile' is nil. can i not reference self.db.profile to get to the currently selected profile when it isnt a deep copied one? |
| 22:57.38 | Mikma | Tem: i'm lazy, screenshot us |
| 22:57.46 | kergoth | Tem: hahah |
| 22:57.53 | ag` | What is it with you people and screenshots |
| 22:58.00 | CIA-7 | 03handdol * r4081 10BabbleLib/Babble-Race-2.0/Babble-Race-2.0.lua: Korean localization added |
| 22:58.05 | Tem | Mikma, nothing really to SS |
| 22:58.09 | Tem | it's just something to see |
| 22:58.23 | Mikma | Tem: ok, what place? if/sw/org/uc? |
| 22:58.45 | Tem | I did it in IF |
| 22:58.53 | Tem | kergoth, what city did you do it in? |
| 22:59.31 | kergoth | havent done it yet, i was amused by your mrplow evilness |
| 23:00.05 | Tuplad | Industrial: Im asking for it myself |
| 23:00.47 | hyperChipmunk | AceLibrary.lua:82: attempt to index local `self' (a string value) --- |
| 23:00.57 | Tem | kergoth, oh lol |
| 23:01.00 | Tem | Mikma, if you stand where a fire fest bonfire used to be, you take fire damage as if you were standing on a fire |
| 23:01.02 | hyperChipmunk | what am I doing wrong 'ere |
| 23:01.14 | Tem | doesn't seem to work in SW |
| 23:01.26 | Tem | so do it in IF |
| 23:01.27 | Mikma | Tem: ok, can't find the place then since nothing is happening to me |
| 23:02.46 | Mikma | i'm running around in the spot it was but nothing happens |
| 23:03.04 | Mikma | umh, have those 2 pilars been there always? |
| 23:05.17 | Tem | Mikma, 64,24 in IF |
| 23:07.29 | Tem | Tekcub, SEBags has a bug |
| 23:09.22 | kergoth | ckknight: let me clarify. The SetProfile documentation and the behavior of self.profile is extremely confusing. as i understand it, _which profile is selected_ is stored in the db's character specific area, since which profile is currently used is character bound. thats about all i've been able to grasp so far. why would class/Warlock result in a deep copy between profiles? if i set that profile, it should use that profile. i dont get it. |
| 23:09.51 | Mikma | Tem|Food: yeah nothing on 2 eu servers i tested |
| 23:11.50 | kergoth | ckknight: i can understand 'char', 'realm', and 'class', since those are just convenience, so i don thave to manually pass the return of a UnitClass() or whatever, though i kinda dislike the fact that you're mixing namespaces. that means i cant name a profile 'char' |
| 23:11.58 | kergoth | ckknight: but the copying stuff, you lost me |
| 23:13.53 | Makk | guys :D |
| 23:14.01 | Makk | BigWigs is now the guild official bossmod |
| 23:14.03 | Makk | :D |
| 23:14.06 | hyperChipmunk | w00 |
| 23:14.22 | Makk | and yes, we are a real guild |
| 23:14.24 | Makk | :P |
| 23:14.51 | Makk | rnn |
| 23:14.51 | kergoth | yay |
| 23:14.54 | Makk | nn |
| 23:15.02 | Makk | NOW MAKE IT WORK |
| 23:15.18 | Makk | <3 |
| 23:18.40 | clad|sleep | ckknight: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=408576&p=1&tmp=1#post408576 |
| 23:20.01 | Industrial | official forums? |
| 23:20.11 | Industrial | why even go there |
| 23:20.12 | Industrial | :P |
| 23:22.22 | Mikma | because it's official lolz |
| 23:23.53 | clad|sleep | anyone using clique and having the Target too low level issue? |
| 23:24.14 | kergoth | target too low level issue? |
| 23:24.24 | clad|sleep | when casting buffs |
| 23:24.25 | Industrial | Need I remind you of the number of people that play wow and thus how the official forums will look? |
| 23:24.33 | clad|sleep | having it not select the max rank |
| 23:24.35 | kergoth | oh, i use cirk's autorank |
| 23:24.39 | kergoth | so would never have hit it |
| 23:24.46 | kergoth | i woudlnt thin, anyway |
| 23:24.49 | kergoth | gods, i cant type today |
| 23:24.55 | *** join/#wowace steino (n=stein-iv@ti531210a080-6704.bb.online.no) |
| 23:25.01 | Industrial | ~emulate Industrial |
| 23:25.07 | purl | Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls! |
| 23:25.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:27.41 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.ca/80014 kergoth? clad|sleep? ckknight? |
| 23:27.59 | kergoth | ckknight: personally, i'd rather you made the profile to copy from / initialize with as a second optional argument to setprofile, to make ti clear that its independent of the name of the profile actually being set. |
| 23:28.11 | kergoth | ckknight: oh, i get it now. it sets the profile to char/realm/class of the current char, then copies from the source... the docs need to be much, much more clear |
| 23:30.21 | Mikma | clad|sleep: haven't had the chance to buff lowlevels yet with my durid |
| 23:30.43 | clad|sleep | Mikma: It works on my druid |
| 23:30.47 | clad|sleep | but i've reproduced it on my priest |
| 23:30.52 | clad|sleep | just dont dare reload and fix the issue =) |
| 23:32.18 | Mikma | clad|sleep: yeah i had problems some times ago with my priest, remember? |
| 23:32.29 | hyperChipmunk | if I put print(self) above that block, it prints 'Cannot find a library instance of AceLocale-2.0' |
| 23:33.09 | hyperChipmunk | oho |
| 23:33.35 | hyperChipmunk | that's because my external downloads AceDebug.lua into AceLocale |
| 23:33.44 | hyperChipmunk | it's everyone's fault but mine |
| 23:34.02 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 23:34.08 | hyperChipmunk | you'll never guess what's in AceDebug =P |
| 23:34.28 | Codayus | hyperChipmunk: ...cupcakes? |
| 23:34.33 | hyperChipmunk | close |
| 23:34.35 | Codayus | Yay! |
| 23:34.40 | Codayus | Do I win a prize? |
| 23:34.42 | hyperChipmunk | but, actually, it's AceLocale |
| 23:34.51 | Codayus | I'll take that as a no then. |
| 23:35.03 | kergoth | "*sniff* I miss you, cupcake." --Gir |
| 23:35.38 | Codayus | You know, it'd be cool to display a list of key combinations and what they did...kind of the reverse of the normal bindings interface. Help you find spare key combos to bind something too... |
| 23:37.37 | hyperChipmunk | [19:36-3027] ...face\BulkMail\lib\AceLocale\AceLocale-2.0.lua:45: attempt to call method `error' (a nil value) --- |
| 23:37.40 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 23:37.41 | Codayus | Maybe graphical...color buttons based on whether something was bound to it...pop up the function on mouseover... |
| 23:39.05 | hyperChipmunk | sounds good, cod; how long do you think it'll take you to write? |
| 23:40.01 | Codayus | Heh |
| 23:40.29 | Codayus | It'd be really nifty. But I'm sure if I wait long enough, someone else will write it. :-) |
| 23:40.46 | hyperChipmunk | that's the spirit |
| 23:42.02 | Amadeo | That's the coding way |
| 23:42.10 | Amadeo | The people who invent addons don't want/know how to make them |
| 23:42.16 | Amadeo | and the people who code them don't want to make them either! |
| 23:46.28 | Tem|Food | Codayus, potential problems with that: |
| 23:46.39 | Tem|Food | 1) different layouts than QWERTY |
| 23:46.46 | Codayus | Yeah, I was thinking of that... |
| 23:46.55 | Tem|Food | 2) Mac / Win differences |
| 23:47.08 | Codayus | Hm? |
| 23:47.15 | Codayus | What mac/win differenceS? |
| 23:47.18 | hyperChipmunk | yea, you'd have to have some sort of nice keyboard iterator =) |
| 23:47.24 | Mikma | Codayus: OS haha |
| 23:47.32 | Tem|Food | on Mac, "alt" is like apple or something |
| 23:47.46 | Codayus | ...I was thinking of an in-game addon...OS wouldn't matter. |
| 23:47.49 | Mikma | yeah they call it command |
| 23:47.51 | Tem | yeah, but |
| 23:47.58 | Codayus | Actually, I guess an out of game one could work though..hm |
| 23:48.04 | Tem | for a graphical thing.... you'd need a picture of a keyboard |
| 23:48.27 | Tem | and a mac keyboard looks distinctly different than a windows keyboard |
| 23:48.44 | Tem | not to mention when layouts other than QWERTY are used |
| 23:48.46 | Mikma | that's true |
| 23:49.02 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 23:49.10 | Tem | I think you could pretty easily detect a Mac client |
| 23:49.19 | Tem | but you'd have to ask for layout |
| 23:49.36 | Gngsk | Mikma, can bartender make the vertical bars horizontal? |
| 23:49.37 | Codayus | It wouldn't be a huge problem though - the bulk of keys exist on non-qwerty keyboards, they're just in different places. |
| 23:49.45 | Tem | right |
| 23:49.48 | Tem | oh, also |
| 23:49.52 | Tem | EU keyboards |
| 23:49.57 | Codayus | And I was mainly thinking of it as a "what can I bind this new addons functionality to", not a "zomg what does this key do"... |
| 23:50.08 | Tem | those have all those funny buttons with the symbols over stuff |
| 23:50.30 | Tekcub | erf |
| 23:50.31 | Mikma | Gngsk: not yet |
| 23:50.37 | Gngsk | ahh, ok |
| 23:50.45 | ag` | what text editors do you people use? |
| 23:50.50 | Tem | SciTe |
| 23:50.52 | Tekcub | scite |
| 23:51.07 | Tekcub | clad'sn version :) |
| 23:51.15 | ag` | I'm using that one too, mine is damn old though |
| 23:51.44 | ag` | anyone who can provide me with a link to a good one? |
| 23:51.53 | Tem | clad has one on wowi |
| 23:51.59 | ag` | Thanks |
| 23:52.09 | ckknight | back |
| 23:52.59 | Gngsk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4989 |
| 23:53.37 | Tem | Tekcub, SEBags has a bug |
| 23:53.42 | Tem | mind if I commit the fix? |
| 23:53.43 | Tekcub | what is it? |
| 23:54.26 | Tem | not enough args on Trigger Event |
| 23:54.38 | Tekcub | eh? |
| 23:54.59 | Tem | TriggerEvent only takes 4 args to pass |
| 23:55.01 | Tem | but you need 6 |
| 23:55.14 | Tem | bag,slot,link,stack,oldlink,oldstack |
| 23:55.20 | Tekcub | oh, kek |
| 23:55.42 | Tekcub | kael's the one that asked for the extra args, but I don't think he even uses em so he never caught that |
| 23:55.52 | ag` | thanks, it's great |
| 23:56.00 | Tem | Tekcub, I am using them |
| 23:56.13 | Tekcub | yea, commit away, gonna be porting them to Ace2, BTW |
| 23:56.21 | Tem | fine with me |
| 23:56.26 | Tekcub | when I get to it |
| 23:56.27 | Tem | mixins? |
| 23:56.27 | kergoth | woot, bitlbee rocks |
| 23:56.38 | Tekcub | no, they'll use AceEvent again |
| 23:56.52 | Tekcub | no need to mixin, they load and fire events |
| 23:57.03 | Tekcub | that's all :) |
| 23:57.05 | CIA-7 | 03tardmrr * r4083 10SpecialEventsEmbed/Bags/SEEmbedBags.lua: SEEmbedBags: Fixed an issue where oldlink and oldstack were not passed to event handlers. |
| 23:57.18 | Tekcub | well true some of em have query methods, but those don't need mixin'd |
| 23:57.24 | hyperChipmunk | if I try to load the same AceLocale file as a local in two different files, the second one doesn't work and errors |
| 23:57.51 | Tekcub | so *cough* who wants to convert Timex Bars into an Ace2 embed? |
| 23:57.57 | Tekcub | I don't.... but I need it |
| 23:58.03 | Tem | I'd do it |
| 23:58.11 | Tem | but I'm spinning 1 too many plates atm |
| 23:58.13 | Tekcub | Bigwigs is gonna be making the push to ACe2 over the weekend I think |
| 23:58.18 | hyperChipmunk | soon as I get BulkMail working |
| 23:58.22 | Tekcub | I know that feeling Temmy |
| 23:58.25 | Gngsk | kergoth, wow that looks pretty cool |
| 23:58.28 | hyperChipmunk | I'm ohhhh so close |
| 23:58.55 | Tekcub | I want to push BW to Ace2, but it's pointless with the Timex and therefore Ace1 dependancy still in place |
| 23:59.08 | Tem | hah |
| 23:59.32 | Tekcub | also, I need a name for the color manager mod still.... I'm thinking PaintChips unless oneone gets something better |
| 23:59.34 | Tem | I'm not a huge fan of the way he did timex bars |
| 23:59.42 | Tem | color manager mod? |
| 23:59.48 | Tem | what's it do? |
| 23:59.50 | Tekcub | you mean visually or code wise tem? |
| 23:59.53 | kergoth | i was planning on doing it, as an aceoo-2.0 class "timerbar" or so, then another class to maintain "sets" of bars which move together and such...looking all perty like elkano's or like haste's casting bar.. |
| 23:59.59 | Tem | Tekcub, a little of both |
