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00:01.20mjcany ideas? :p
00:01.50CIA-703kebinusan * r3922 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua: BigWigs: Forgot to declare metrognome in Razuvious.lua
00:04.27Galka_goddamnit, not having a working baraddon blows
00:04.34Galka_Any recommendations for a baraddon?
00:04.39Kebinusanmjc, delete your saved variables.lua
00:04.49Kebinusanerr the bigwigs.lua in your saved variables file
00:05.07Kebinusanthere was a post on the forums sometimes, it gets corrupt or something it seems
00:05.34mjcthanks, we'l lsee how it goes
00:05.36mjc:)
00:05.49CIA-703mikma * r3923 10Bartender/Bartender.lua:
00:05.53hyperChipmunkbongos ftw
00:06.00mjcbongos?
00:06.09hyperChipmunkbar addon
00:07.09kergothbongos ram usage is bad
00:07.09Galka_bongos is large though
00:07.13Galka_Carbars still works no?
00:07.14kergothi'll stick to bartender
00:07.29Mikmawell this current version or Bartender is using 53KiB
00:07.33Mikmabut it's not workibf properly
00:07.37Galka_What version are you running, Kergoth?
00:07.41Galka_SVN version is fubared
00:08.02kergothi'm using 1.031b
00:08.16Galka_gotten off WoWI?
00:08.18mjcKebinusan: no luck
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00:08.49MikmaGalka_: it's in wowi, worldofwar.net and curse
00:09.08Kebinusanhm :-/  do the saved variables files actually have something in them?
00:10.13kergothsimpleminimap can do texture switching now. woot. stuffed mikma's texture in there and its all painless, no longer need the random bits addon at all
00:10.31Mikmayeah i removed the movable minimap from bartender today
00:10.35Galka_woot
00:10.37Galka_thank you for that
00:10.51Mikmabut, as you can see it's fucked up tho
00:10.55gnorlishwhat's mikma's texture
00:11.12Mikmai have checked and doublechecked the code and still haven't found out the reason why it won't work
00:11.33Mikmagnorlish: http://kergoth.com/images/wow_018.jpg
00:11.45gnorlishthat's tasty
00:11.57Galka_It is tasty, but I feel it doesn't belong in a Barmod
00:12.00Galka_That's my view.
00:12.15kergothagreed
00:12.19gnorlishpurist! i bet you hate the designated hitter in baseball too!
00:12.19MikmaGalka_: the texture hasn't been in for couple of versions
00:12.25Galka_I know
00:12.40Galka_I use Bartender religiously sir
00:13.52snurreMikma: what buffmod is that?
00:14.17Mikmasnurre: it's kergoth's ss but i bet it's Elkano's BuffBar
00:14.41snurreintriguing
00:14.58kergothindeed it is
00:14.59Galka_Aye, seems to be elkano's
00:15.04kergothits perty
00:15.12Galka_Elkanos looks especially sexy with Squeenix
00:15.57Mikmafuck this, i'm off to bed
00:15.57kergothshould try simpleminimap.  it includes the square minimap texture.  /smm skin flips between the defined textures.  can easily add mikma's to it, then you can flip between the 3 :)
00:16.23snurreim using idMinimap
00:16.41Galka_I used SMM awhile back, all I remember is it was buggy and not very small
00:16.42CIA-703mikma * r3924 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: This does not work. Don't use unless you are finding the reason for it.
00:16.46Galka_I use Squeenix now
00:17.15Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Bartender/Bartender.lua
00:17.23Mikmaanyone can look at the code now and see it's rather small now
00:17.23snurrewhat does bartender do anyway?
00:17.35kergothlets you move the blizzard actionbars and such. like cardbars
00:17.47kergothalso rips out the actionbutton borders, which i love
00:17.51Mikmaand it's light, 53KiB moment ago with semiworking crap
00:17.56Tekcub*erf*
00:18.00snurrehm
00:18.01snurreweird
00:18.10snurrewhen i use a custom buffbar, it doesnt show it at all
00:18.16snurresame problem with ctbuffbar too
00:18.18Mikmait _doesn't_ move the bars to correct locations, dunno why
00:18.32Mikmaalso it doesn't restore the positions without error, dunno why
00:18.32kergothsimpleminimap uses 45K of ram in game here
00:19.26Mikmakergoth: btw, in case you wanna do your own barmod/etc, look the BarFuncs.lua in Bartender folder ;)
00:19.36kergothnifty, will do :)
00:19.38Kebinusanwhere is a good place to get minimap textures anyway
00:20.09KebinusanIm looking for a good square one
00:20.14Mikmaok laters
00:23.08snurreTinyTipAnchor.lua:139: GameTooltip:SetPoint(): Unknown region point
00:24.06Thrae|WoWsnurre: What are you using for your anchor?
00:24.34snurreanchor cursor and uanchor smart i think it was
00:25.02Thrae|WoWsnurre: Did you do /ttip uanchor "SMART" or /ttip uanchor SMART
00:25.16snurrewithout the ""
00:25.35mjcMikma:  /bar micro /bar bag no longer work
00:25.54Wobinbah
00:26.05Thrae|WoWsnurre: Are you using 3906 SVN?
00:26.12Thrae|WoWSorry, 3915
00:26.23snurreyeah, the latest
00:26.30snurreupdated it a few mins ago
00:26.46WobinAs much as I like my roommate, the fact that his idea of 'washing the dishes' means that he lays out the thinnest possible number of dishes on the drying mat and then leaves the rest unwashed in the sink will never cease to piss me off.
00:27.20Wobinand his gf comes in and makes herself lunch.
00:27.23Wobinusing every single pot
00:27.28Wobinand leaves them
00:27.40Wobindoesn't even take them off the stove or rinse them a bit
00:27.46WobinAnd I end up cleaning it
00:27.55hyperChipmunklet it all out, brutha!
00:27.59Wobinrarararar
00:28.03Wobinoh well
00:28.07Wobinonly about 10 more days
00:28.27IndustrialWobin: just leave it
00:28.30Industrialthey'll notice
00:28.33Industrialand ask about it
00:28.38WobinIndustrial: I've tried that
00:28.43Industrialand then be like WOOOAAAHHHHHH :@:@:@:@:@:@
00:28.44Industrialon them
00:28.45Industrial:p
00:28.52WobinExcept I'm more likely to eat at home then they are
00:28.59Wobinthey'll just ignore it and eat out =P
00:29.04Industrialhmm
00:29.04Industrial:p
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00:33.32phyber0127.20 <     Wobin> and his gf comes in and makes herself lunch.
00:33.33phyber0127.23 <     Wobin> using every single pot
00:33.42phybermy gf does the same thing
00:33.47phyberit's why i refuse to wash up.
00:33.57WobinI've done that
00:34.04Wobinbut then they continue to use every single plate
00:34.09Wobintil I have to wash to eat
00:34.35WobinI've considered just moving all the dirty dishes and leaving them in a very flat pile on their bed
00:34.42WobinAs a 'subtle' reminder
00:35.03Wobinbut really, aside from that one quirk, he's a good roommate
00:38.13Tekcubstupid question guys.... anyone have a boss transcript that might have tranq shot messages in it?  preferrably in engrish...
00:39.08Gngskhow do I broadcast bigwigs warning to my raid with oRA?
00:41.07CIA-703thrae * r3925 10TinyTip/ (TinyTipAnchor.lua TinyTipChat.lua): TinyTip: - uanchor, uoffx, and uoffy are now properly part of TinyTipChat.lua and hence the slash commands. If you mistakely set anchor to SMART, set it again and no more errors.
00:41.52TekcubBigWigs_RaidWarn, no raid mods are needed
00:42.25Gngskahh, ok, is that in svn?
00:42.30Tekcubyes
00:42.41Gngskcool, thanks
00:47.32ag`what tools do you people use to create graphics for your addons?
00:49.13phyber3000 hours + mspaint
00:49.26phyberI use Paint.NET, when I'm attempting to make something
00:49.49ag`I was more thinking of the conversion tools :-)
00:50.48phyberah
00:51.43phyberI wrote my own conversion thing in perl
00:51.51phyberusing the Imager module
00:52.19mjcimagemagick :p
00:52.52ag`was thinking about how to convert BLP to TGA
00:53.01TekcubGIMP
00:53.18ag`the gimp can open BLP files?
00:53.28Tekcub*shrug* itt's what I use tho
00:54.27mjcaha
00:54.29mjcag`: sup
00:54.40ag`hi
00:58.08Wobiner it can't
00:58.24WobinFrom blp to tga...get xnview
00:58.44Wobinthe other way around? You'll have to find that converter on curse/wowi
01:00.51CIA-703tekkub * r3926 10GratuityLib/ (. Gratuity-2.0/Gratuity-2.0.lua GratuityLib.toc):
01:00.51CIA-7GratuityLib
01:00.51CIA-7- Fixed Set* methods not initialiving properly
01:00.52CIA-7- Added Externals for AceLibrary and Compost-2.0, also added to TOC (so that it'll function standalone)
01:01.00Tekcubthere :P
01:06.41mjcit'd be nice if there was a way to keep track of who's casting what when
01:06.46mjclike, other than combat log
01:07.02mjca window for mages casting X, window for rogues casting Y, and just a list of who casts and what spell
01:07.28Thrae|WoWPM for TinyTip "Hi, can you make it so you don't have to mouseover a unit to see if they're targeting you?"
01:08.24mjcheh
01:08.38hyperChipmunkawesome
01:09.18hyperChipmunkthat's definitely a tooltip mod's job to do
01:09.21mjcThrae|WoW: pwned
01:09.50Thrae|WoWReading further, they want Target of Target information...which is in the default UI
01:11.02Tekcubthrae
01:11.05Tekcub*slap*
01:11.09Tekcublern2commit note
01:11.26Tekcub:P I'm sick of your commits, I don't know what the fuck I'm looking at
01:11.28Thrae|WoWHey I added TinyTip: to the last commit
01:11.51Tekcub:P do it on all of em or incur furry wrath!
01:12.16Thrae|WoWCIA-7 made me believe it automatically added them :D
01:12.26Thrae|WoWWhy doesn't the SVN log at least add the main directory in which the update occur?
01:13.03Tekcubcause SVN isn't designed for multiple projects in one repo
01:13.10Tekcubor mass amounts of projects
01:13.16Thrae|WoWahh
01:13.38Tekcubbut the many-repos thing didn't work too well with sharing permissions
01:14.42cladhairewe could add the trunjk/branch info, but we strip it right now on purpose.
01:15.25Tekcubokey, I'm gonna toss out a vote again since we never got a decition last night
01:15.35TekcubModMenu, total rewrite, need a name...
01:16.01TekcubMM2?  MM3?  MMM?  MoreModMenu?  Fubar_MenFu?
01:16.08TekcubMenMe? MenYou! ?
01:16.29Kebinusandoes it do the same thing?
01:16.33KebinusanModMenuAce! <g>
01:16.35Tekcubit will bee functionally similar
01:16.45Tekcubbut the underlying framework will be totally different
01:16.46Thrae|WoWNo no, Fubar_ModMenuAceFu!
01:16.54Tekcubit'll be driven mostly off TOC metadata
01:17.04TekcubDeuceMenuFu
01:17.21Tekcubm^3
01:17.32Thrae|WoWTocanSam
01:17.52mjcttip is only reporting one person as targeting onyxia
01:17.54mjcheh
01:17.57TekcubKidsMenu
01:18.02TekcubLunchMenu
01:18.04TekcubWineMenu
01:18.21TekcubExtraValueMenu
01:19.47Tekcubis it just me, or is "Tiny" tip quickly ammassing features that are, well, not really necessary?
01:19.56MakkAvastMenu
01:20.07TekcubArrMenu?
01:20.09TekcubRMenu
01:20.17Thrae|WoWYou can delete stuff you don't want, hence keeping it Tiny
01:20.20TekcubREMenu
01:20.41MakkYarrVastMenu
01:20.56MakkMcMenu
01:21.01Tekcubmy personal "Tooltip mod" does one thing, anchor the tip in the same place it's noramlly anchored, but relative to WorldFrame instead of UIParent
01:21.17TekcubUnem
01:21.27MakkI like it on the mouse
01:21.43TekcubUfUnem
01:22.11TekcubNAMM, Not Another Mod Menu
01:22.27TekcubNavi?
01:22.43Tekcubbah, why can't I find a good name for this bitch
01:22.53TekcubI can't start coding without a name!
01:23.28ag`MadMenu
01:23.35Tekcub><
01:24.08Tekcubscrew clad, I'll name it PerfectMenu
01:24.54Tekcubfine, GenericMenu it is until something better comes along
01:24.57ag`isn't that what you call things you don't know what to name
01:25.55CIA-703thrae * r3927 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Target Of Raid should now iterate over all raid members instead of just up to 5.
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01:27.22mjcthrae: thanks
01:30.13mjcTekcub: MenuMagic ?
01:32.41Kyahxis oRA acting up for anyone else?
01:33.19mjcMikma: bartender is acting up too
01:33.23mjcKyahx: not me
01:34.57Thrae|WoWTekcub: Could you make a quick option to CorkFu to check if we're in a Battleground or not?
01:35.15Tekcubwhy?
01:35.25Gngskis wipe detection part of BW core?
01:35.29Tekcubno
01:35.39Tekcubbut it will be if ammo gets it working well
01:35.47Gngskahh
01:35.55Thrae|WoWAs a Druid, I don't normally care about others buffs in Arathi Basin or Warsong Gulch, and I care about Thorns on myself only in PvP
01:36.10Thrae|WoWSo I need to keep resetting my CorkFu settings when doing PvP
01:36.19Tekcubso you want totally different settings in PvP
01:36.28Tekcubthat's kinda annoying :P
01:36.28Thrae|WoWs/others/other's/
01:36.36Tekcubstupid PvP
01:36.57Thrae|WoWWell, how about just multiple profiles per character?
01:37.20Tekcubstill that's not like a 5min code job
01:37.35Tekcubbut yea, drop me a feature request so I don't forget
01:38.24KyahxThrae: just use the druid / charecter profiles that are already there :P
01:38.29Kyahxbut use one for normal play, and one for PvP
01:38.42Kyahxthen you swap profiles, instead of each setting
01:39.28Tekcubyea, that's an option too
01:57.30Kaeltenhows it going guys?
01:58.25hyperChipmunkeyo
02:01.46CIA-703kyahx * r3928 10oRA_Menu/ (Core.lua oRA_Menu.toc): (log message trimmed)
02:01.46CIA-7oRA Menu : 0.3a
02:01.46CIA-7<PROTECTED>
02:01.46CIA-7<PROTECTED>
02:01.46CIA-7<PROTECTED>
02:01.48CIA-7<PROTECTED>
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02:02.05Kyahxmmm, spammy
02:02.56kergothokay, i'm officially a moron
02:03.02Kyahxk
02:03.16kergothi havent been to brd in ages... i talked to someone i shouldnt have
02:03.21kergothand got us all killed :P
02:11.54GngskKyahx, if you use the style toggle will that work if your raid leader doesn't use oRA but uses the blizz readycheck?
02:12.19KyahxPromoteds can just set their style to oRA and send them
02:12.45Gngskwell, I wanna see the oRA ready check and sound when my raid leader uses /readycheck
02:12.59Kyahxno, you will still see the built in
02:13.22Gngskwould it ever be possible to do that though?
02:13.37Kyahxnot via oRA Menu, thats a job for oRA_Ready
02:13.44KyahxI believe its planned, but not top priority ATM
02:14.12Kyahxall the menu does is interface with the other shit you have =)  dosent change anything
02:16.33Galka_ok im using latest SVN oRA
02:16.41Galka_Not even getting my guild's MT targets
02:16.54KyahxMr hand broke it again
02:17.00Kyahxrevert one revision back
02:17.32Galka_Not sure how to do that on TortiousSVN
02:17.45Kyahxright-click -> tortise -> update to revision
02:17.45GngskKyahx, ahh thanks for the info :)
02:18.15Galka_Whats the # of the correct revision Kyahx?
02:18.28Kyahxjust click on the change-log
02:18.32KyahxI dont remember the number
02:18.50Galka_July 2nd?
02:18.53Gngsk3779
02:18.59Kyahxwhatever the second newest is, by otravi
02:20.36Galka_Hasnt fixed it
02:20.51Galka_still no MT windows
02:20.54Kyahxyou reloaded UI?
02:20.56GngskI'm running the latest revision with no problems
02:21.01Galka_Yes, reloaded
02:21.14Kyahxdid you roll back the oRA main tank or the oRA core?
02:21.45Galka_oRA core
02:21.50Kyahxhmmm
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02:21.57Kebinusanyeah Im looking at the diff right now
02:22.08KyahxGngsk, did you update today?
02:22.23Gngskyea, about 1/2 hour ago
02:22.26Kebinusan3896 works, but 3897 doesnt seem to
02:22.27Kyahxhmmm
02:22.36CIA-703joshborke * r3929 10HealWatch/ (4 files):
02:22.36CIA-7HealWatch:
02:22.36CIA-7- changed coms for CTRA a little bit
02:22.36CIA-7- made group heals work (hopefully)
02:22.36CIA-7- changed heals to be a single byte
02:22.37CIA-7- started removing UpdateBars everywhere
02:22.39CIA-7- working on a fix for targeting
02:22.48Kebinusanerr
02:22.50Kebinusan3779
02:22.54Kebinusanworks
02:22.55Kyahxyea
02:22.56Galka_3779 doesnt work for me
02:23.04Galka_oRA 3779 right?
02:23.11Kyahxdid you rejoin the channel and request a status update?
02:23.16Kebinusanyeah
02:23.34Kyahx3779 is working for me =/
02:26.14Galka_Yes, did that, and no, still doesnt work
02:26.47Kebinusan3779 works for me too, just join the channel and do a /ora request
02:28.03Galka_only reverted in oRA, right?
02:28.08Galka_not the other modules
02:28.24Kebinusanyeah
02:28.50Galka_Ok, yeah.  3779 isnt working for me
02:28.53CIA-703joshborke * r3930 10/branches/HealWatch/: Created folder remotely
02:28.57Galka_Have done everything suggested
02:29.17KebinusanI'll look at the diff and see if I can fix it here in a bit
02:29.46CIA-703joshborke 07joshborke * r3931 10HealWatch/: Created joshborke folder inside HealWatch folder in branches
02:35.04Wobinsnorf
02:36.16CIA-703joshborke * r3932 10HealWatch/ (7 files): HealWatch: reverting changes and moving changes to a branch
02:39.44CIA-703joshborke 07joshborke * r3933 10HealWatch/HealWatch/: HealWatch: branching to implement dynamic frames
02:40.09Galka_Ok
02:40.13Galka_3779 just started working.
02:40.15Galka_For some reason.
02:40.19Galka_And what triggered it:
02:40.33Galka_<PROTECTED>
02:40.34Galka_Did that
02:40.38Galka_And all of them popped up
02:40.51kergothhmm, i like fubar_restfu
02:42.00kergoththink i found a tinytip bug, perhaps
02:47.08Kyahxadding a slash command to a non-ace addon, why can't I figure this out
02:47.13CIA-703joshborke 07joshborke * r3934 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (6 files):
02:47.13CIA-7HealWatch: un-reverted changes from trunk into the branch:
02:47.13CIA-7- labels are dynamically created
02:47.13CIA-7- castbars are dynamically created
02:47.13CIA-7- having some trouble with some positioning
02:47.14CIA-7- having some trouble with targeting
02:55.42CIA-703silverwind * r3935 10AceTargetLog/AceTargetLog.lua:
02:55.42CIA-7AceTargetLog:
02:55.42CIA-7- tweaked locals
03:04.13CIA-703joshborke 07joshborke * r3937 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (5 files):
03:04.14CIA-7HealWatch: multiple changes
03:04.14CIA-7- added HealWatchFrames back in
03:04.14CIA-7- made raid changes set a dirty flag that is reset when the changes are propagated to the healwatch roster. hopefully saves a little bit of performance
03:04.14CIA-7- made some changes with targeting
03:04.15CIA-7- updated version to 0.51-11100
03:08.35mjcbartender is definitely fub'd
03:18.14Galka_get 1.031b off WoWI
03:18.26Galka_revert
03:29.55Thrae|WoWAnyone use Simple Combat Log?
03:32.52kergothi do
03:33.06CIA-703joshborke 07joshborke * r3938 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (5 files):
03:33.06CIA-7HealWatch: lots of changes
03:33.06CIA-7- updated changes.txt
03:33.06CIA-7- fixed the targeting bug almost completely. still there is some way to confuse it.
03:33.06CIA-7- made healing touch a single target spell
03:33.07CIA-7- made UpdateTarget control all aspects of the update target process ;-)
03:44.08CIA-703joshborke 07joshborke * r3939 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (HealWatch.lua HealWatchEvents.lua HealWatchFrames.lua):
03:44.08CIA-7HealWatch:
03:44.09CIA-7- minor targeting tweaks
03:44.09CIA-7- minor frame and event tweaks
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04:12.52Tekcubwheeee
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04:19.40Tekcubmaybe I should just name it FuBar_ModMenuTwoFu
04:19.59hyperChipmunkModMenuDeuxFu
04:24.31Thrae|WoWHow do you get Simple Combat Log to display only numbers?
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04:38.15CIA-703kaelten * r3940 10Ace2/ (AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua readme.txt):
04:38.15CIA-7Ace2 -
04:38.15CIA-7Fixed bug in AceConsole when dealing with ranges that would allow invalid values to go through after a successful one.
04:38.15CIA-7Added enhancements to AceConsole when you are dealing with percentages in a rage type.
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04:39.38Kaeltenwb ckknight, you missed my commit! lol
04:39.53ckknightI was in the shower
04:39.58Kaeltenlol
04:40.01ckknightI've been working all day
04:40.48ckknightmy dad's employee is on holiday
04:40.59ckknightand he needed an extra pair of hands
04:41.24Kaeltenya Aceconsole was using a global good when validating the input on a range so after the first one then they would all pass
04:42.08ckknightoh
04:42.10ckknightmy bad
04:42.31Kaeltenya, np, its fixed now
04:43.32KaeltenI also made the output on percentage ranges look like precentages instead of decimals
04:45.59CIA-703kaelten * r3941 10Ace2/ (12 files in 11 dirs): Ace2 - Set the revision keyword up again.
04:48.01ckknightokay
04:48.16ckknightseems good
05:00.53Tekcubhey ckk, just had a thought for DewDrop, dunno if it already does this
05:01.12Tekcubif you don't define a value when you addline, will it pass the text as the value?
05:01.43ckknightum
05:01.45ckknightno
05:01.51ckknightI'd prefer an explicit value
05:01.58Tekcubokey
05:02.23TekcubI just find I almost always am setting value the same as text, unless I need to pass a table
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05:08.14CIA-7OneBag -
05:08.15CIA-7Added ability for the user to set the bag's scale, values must be between 20% and 200%
05:08.15CIA-7Added ability for the user to set the bag's transparency, values must be between 5% and 100%
05:08.15CIA-7They keyring frame will now show up right above the onebag frame when its opened from within onebag's frame.
05:09.32ckknightI should probably hack on something
05:09.38ckknightbut my leges hurt...
05:14.18ckknightlegs*
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05:19.21FryGuyungh I don't understand why the start trigger for patch isn't working :(
05:19.24ckknighthrm, indie still has voice
05:20.01FryGuyanyone see anything wrong with this?
05:20.02FryGuy"Patchwerk want to play!"
05:20.15FryGuyit's.. exactly what he says
05:23.21CIA-703kaelten * r3943 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua OneBag.xml): OneBag - Scale and Alpha settings will carry over to keyring bag and side bag bar.
05:23.48Kaeltenanyone think of any features/options I can put into onebag before I go to work on onebank?
05:26.04kergothooh, the new version of chatr has a buddy list thingy
05:26.15Kaeltenchatr?
05:27.30kergothaddon that pops up seperate little windows for each person you're whispering.  works really nicely
05:27.40kergothhttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2766
05:32.14hyperChipmunkwow errors
05:32.40hyperChipmunkonebag just nuked all my ace2 stuff O_o
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05:36.36KaeltenhyperChipmunk: huh?
05:36.42hyperChipmunk[01:35-2972] OneBag\AceDB\AceDB-2.0.lua:571: attempt to index a nil value
05:36.48hyperChipmunk[01:35-2972] ...nterface\OneBag\AceConsole\AceConsole-2.0.lua:1235: attempt to index a nil value
05:36.58hyperChipmunkOneBag\AceAddon\AceAddon-2.0.lua:334: attempt to index a nil value
05:37.05hyperChipmunkthere's about 7 of those
05:37.11hyperChipmunkhappens for oUF too
05:37.20Kaeltenhuh?
05:37.50Kaeltenthose can't be right
05:37.52hyperChipmunklast ace2 update seems to have done some badness
05:38.04Kaeltenwhats the first addon that loads with Ace2?
05:38.36hyperChipmunki only have 2, onebag and oUF; I tried them both individually, and together, and they both give the same errors, with only the paths different (obviously)
05:38.53Kaeltendid you update them right?
05:39.04hyperChipmunksvn update, like i"ve always done
05:39.18hyperChipmunksame line numbers with both
05:39.24hyperChipmunkI'm guessing that has to be an ace2 error
05:39.33hyperChipmunkline 571 of AceDB-2.0.lua
05:39.35Kaeltenthats just weird because I'm not getting the errors
05:39.44hyperChipmunkline 1235 of AceConsole-2.0.lua
05:39.50hyperChipmunkhm, sec
05:40.10hyperChipmunkhm
05:40.12hyperChipmunkall U's on the svn
05:40.14hyperChipmunkno conflicts
05:40.34hyperChipmunklemme nuke the SV
05:40.40Kaeltenwait
05:41.03Kaeltendoes oUF pull from the alpha branch or from the trunk?
05:41.23hyperChipmunklemme check
05:42.07hyperChipmunkAceOO           http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Ace2/AceOO-2.0/
05:43.38Kaeltenok all those errors seem to be erroring ont he same line
05:43.42Kaeltenthat you're reporting
05:43.54Kaeltendifferent line numbers but its all the same line
05:43.58KaeltenAceEvent:embed(self)
05:44.05hyperChipmunkyea
05:44.23Kaeltendid you try disabling oUF ?
05:44.33hyperChipmunkyes
05:44.45Kaeltentry fresh checkouts?
05:45.36hyperChipmunkhm
05:46.11Kaeltenckknight: why would instance be nil in the external methods?
05:46.29hyperChipmunkI just enabled the Ace2 in my AddOns directory and didn't load any addons, and still got the errors
05:46.35ckknightKaelten, it never should be
05:46.46Kaeltenwell thats what hyperChipmunk is reporting
05:46.49ckknighthrm
05:47.02hyperChipmunktrying a fresh co
05:47.08ckknightoriginating in AceDB or AceConsole?
05:47.16hyperChipmunkfirst one is acedb
05:47.22hyperChipmunklast one is aceconsole
05:47.32hyperChipmunker
05:47.40hyperChipmunkwhich way does bugsack display them
05:47.43hyperChipmunknewest first?
05:47.50Kaeltenmost recent first I think
05:47.52hyperChipmunkif so, then it's ace ...yea, you know what
05:48.04hyperChipmunk[01:45-2975] ...erface\Ace2\AceConsole-2.0\AceConsole-2.0.lua:1212: bad argument #1 to `pairs' (table expected, got nil) ---
05:48.30hyperChipmunkthat might be slightly more-helpful
05:49.03Kaeltenoddly though I don't get any of these errors
05:49.23hyperChipmunkmaybe I have inadequate mojo
05:49.31ckknightI'll look into it, though
05:49.42hyperChipmunkfresh checkout, only Ace2 loaded, still get it
05:50.28hyperChipmunkif I checkout a back-revision, will it pick up its contemporary externals, or the most recent
05:50.32KaeltenI'm in the same situation and I don't get it :s
05:50.42Kaeltenmost recent
05:51.27hyperChipmunkhum
05:51.42hyperChipmunksec
05:51.48hyperChipmunkmaybe I've got an ace2 addon I don't know about
05:51.58Kaeltenclique
05:52.01hyperChipmunkooh
05:52.04Kaeltenthe newest KC_Playerframeplus
05:52.53Kaeltenthose are both playerframeplush
05:52.57Kaeltenerr those are both ace2 rather
05:53.10hyperChipmunkyea
05:53.18ckknightprevious AceLibrary versions had a bad bug which caused upgrading errors
05:53.20hyperChipmunkclique disabled
05:53.25hyperChipmunkstill error
05:53.39ckknightdisable everything but KCPFP
05:53.49hyperChipmunkI don't have that
05:53.54ckknightoUF then
05:54.21ckknightand then enable OneBag
05:54.28ckknightsee if the errors still occur
05:54.34hyperChipmunkdoing that
05:57.04hyperChipmunkstrange
05:57.30Kaelten?
05:57.53hyperChipmunkgot it
05:57.59hyperChipmunkhm
05:58.05hyperChipmunkOneBag alone works
05:58.19Kaeltenwoot goes me!
05:58.25hyperChipmunk=)
05:58.52Kaeltennow I'm running Clique as well
05:58.55Kaeltenso that should work
05:58.55hyperChipmunkOneBag and oUF works
05:59.01hyperChipmunkloading oUF modules
05:59.52hyperChipmunk...works
06:00.30hyperChipmunkclique...work
06:00.52Kaeltenso everything is working now?
06:01.03hyperChipmunkeverything else moved back....kaboom
06:01.29Tekcubhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=408368
06:01.30Tekcub^^
06:01.40Kaeltenso if you're running all the ace2 addons everything works?
06:01.47Tekcubsupport me (and more than "/signed"s please)
06:01.47Kaeltenbut if you load the non ace2 addons then it blows up?
06:01.48hyperChipmunkmust be another addon
06:02.03hyperChipmunkfubar first =)
06:02.05ckknightit's another addon
06:02.11ckknightlikely
06:02.20ckknightwith an old AceLibrary
06:02.35hyperChipmunkwait, Ace first
06:02.37hyperChipmunkthen FuBZSR
06:02.45hyperChipmunkthat says fubar btw
06:03.16hyperChipmunkace survives
06:03.33hyperChipmunkFuBar...
06:03.39hyperChipmunkwin
06:03.53ckknight?
06:04.06hyperChipmunkdoesn't error
06:04.10hyperChipmunkoRa...
06:04.14hyperChipmunkworks
06:05.33ckknightclique?
06:05.34ckknightokay, it works
06:05.34ckknightum
06:05.42ckknightdo things before "Clique"
06:05.57hyperChipmunkI'm going one by one
06:06.01hyperChipmunkeverything from A-F works =P
06:06.41hyperChipmunksomething from I-M is the problem
06:06.59Kaeltenwhat addons you got in that range?
06:07.15hyperChipmunkiCU IDCard ItemRack KC...oooh
06:07.20hyperChipmunkLootSnob...sec =)
06:07.35hyperChipmunkthat's not in svn yet =p
06:07.43hyperChipmunkso it wasn't updated...
06:07.49hyperChipmunkthat's it
06:07.58KaeltenLootSnob?
06:07.58hyperChipmunkMY BAD!
06:08.07KaeltenhyperChipmunk: broke it!
06:08.08hyperChipmunkthe addon that I can't make work
06:08.10ckknightlol.
06:08.10Kaeltenyou broke it!
06:08.25ckknightupgrade Ace2 in it
06:08.43hyperChipmunkno need; it can't work with thej current API
06:08.52hyperChipmunkjust threw it in my src dir
06:09.00KaeltenI hope that once the last few copies of those old ace2 libs get weeded out that we won't have this issue any more
06:09.13KaeltenI'm tired of the library incompatability issues we've been having
06:10.31Kaeltenso hyperChipmunk on another note, any ideas for more features for OneBag?
06:11.56hyperChipmunkum, let me try it ;)
06:12.28hyperChipmunkI think it should have Stack, Sort, and TheWorks buttons if MrPlow is detected
06:12.31hyperChipmunkStack, at least
06:12.52hyperChipmunkjust along the top there maybe
06:12.56hyperChipmunknext to the close
06:13.00Kaeltenhrm
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06:31.52Kaeltenhows it going Amadeo
06:32.39Mikmamjc: for gods sake i cried about bartender not working for the whole yesterday night :D
06:32.48KaeltenAmadeo: do you have any ideas for features for onebag?
06:32.54Mikma03:25 #wowace: <mjc> Mikma:  /bar micro /bar bag no longer work
06:32.54Mikma04:33 #wowace: <mjc> Mikma: bartender is acting up too
06:32.58mjcmjc: :P
06:33.01Mikmaas if i didn't know hehehe :D
06:33.30mjcer,
06:33.33mjcMikma: :P
06:33.37Mikmamjc: this is the last commit message: Bartender: This does not work. Don't use unless you are finding the reason for it.
06:33.53mjcheh
06:35.24Kaeltenckknight: we got a small issue
06:35.38ckknightKaelten, k?
06:35.39Mikmaok let's have another look at the bug what foox
06:35.59Kaeltenif an addon is set to being disabled
06:36.09Kaeltenits OnEnable still gets called
06:36.12ckknighthrm
06:36.23Mikmamjc: btw, if you still wan't bartender to work you can use 2 slashcommands at the start..
06:36.30ckknightokay.
06:36.41Mikmamjc: and the micro + bags can then be hidden with rightmousebutton when the bars are unlocked
06:36.44mjcI just used svn revert :p
06:37.16Mikmackknight: my saviour! what's wrong with my code since it doesn't properly execute commands at login? http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Bartender/Bartender.lua
06:37.26ckknightbusy.
06:37.50Mikmabut can you still help me sometimes today?
06:38.10Mikmai really really need help since the bug has been there for over a day and i can't find it :(
06:38.37Kaeltenbut we can't check the db because thats not going to be initailized until after OnInit gets called
06:40.07Kaeltenmikma is that spost to be an ace2 addon?
06:40.32MikmaKaelten: nope but i heard it's rather easy to mod it ace2
06:40.42Kaeltenya it would be, just a few small changes
06:40.57Mikmabut, what would it help since it still doesn't work :)
06:41.09Mikmaand, i don't still see the need for ace2 since it's 50KiB now
06:42.25Kaeltenwell you'd only use AceEvent, AceAddon, AceConsole, AceOO and AceLibrary, and maybe AceDB
06:42.37Kaeltenthose are the ones I see you having a use for in that
06:43.15Mikmapeople expect me to ace2'd it... so i think i should but i really don't see any reasons for it :D
06:43.29Mikmabut first i need to find out the reason why it won't work at all
06:43.35Kaeltenpart of it is for ease of coding :
06:43.37Mikmaso i can start on putting some featuers bavk in
06:43.38Kaelten)
06:44.11Mikmawell, i hacked the blizz's original Grid-code and i think i did one good job at it :D
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06:44.41Kaeltenwell the first thing I'd check is that your Enable method might not be being called until after PEW and that means that OnEvent would never be called
06:44.49MikmaKaelten: can you remember when i cried here about button:Hide() and Button:Show() not working properly with empty slots with keybinds in them?
06:45.07Kaeltenerr... maybe
06:45.09Kaeltenheya MoonWolf
06:45.23MoonWolfhello people.
06:45.31MikmaKaelten: ok, 2 screenshots
06:45.41MikmaKaelten: this is when i login to game with no addons enabled http://wow.reaktio.net/show1.jpg
06:45.59Mikmaeverything's ok, buttons which are empty are invisible, including keybinds for them
06:46.19MikmaKaelten: this is after i do :Show() on the empty buttons: http://wow.reaktio.net/show2.jpg
06:46.47Mikmai managed to fix that! :D and i'm superhappy about it
06:47.02Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Bartender/BarFuncs.lua
06:47.11Mikmait's there on function BonusActionBar_OnEvent()
06:47.13Kaeltenckknight: any idea about how to get the standby thing working?
06:47.26Mikmaif ( HasAction(ActionButton_GetPagedID(button)) ) then
06:47.27Mikma:D
06:47.37ckknightyes, by fixing it
06:47.38Mikmaif button has id then show! simple lol
06:47.51Kaeltenlol
06:48.10Kaeltenwell I'm just talking about with the not being able to reliably access addon.db
06:48.15Mikmagoddamn i almost started hitting my head on the wall when i figured that out
06:48.20Kaeltenmikma hrm cool
06:48.39MoonWolf3 more people and we have more members in wowace then in wowi-lounge..... that just isnt right.
06:48.58Kaeltenlol
06:49.12Kaeltenit isn't bad though
06:49.44MikmaMoonWolf: i can pop up 3 dummys here ;)
06:49.55ckknightKaelten, addon.db should always be accessible after ADDON_LOADED
06:49.58MoonWolf<PROTECTED>
06:50.05ckknightwel, and if RegisterDB was called
06:50.06Kaeltenbut its not.
06:50.07Mikmawho me? nooooo :D
06:50.11Kaeltenexactlly
06:50.11ckknightKaelten, pastebin
06:50.17ckknightum
06:50.22ckknightwhat do you mean, exactly?
06:50.54ckknightyou doing RegisterDB in OnInitialize, aren't you
06:51.03Kaeltenyes
06:51.06ckknightI see
06:51.11Kaeltenbut after I call self.super
06:51.15Kaelten.initialize
06:51.39ckknighthrm
06:51.47ckknightfigured out a flaw in the system...
06:51.51Kaelten?
06:52.00AmadeoThrae, there?
06:52.04ckknightif it's after ADDON_LOADED, :OnEnable() is called directly by OnInitialize
06:52.14ckknighte.g. LoD addon
06:52.46ckknightif you do self.super.OnInitialize, then your OnEnabled code is executed before your OnInitialize code.
06:52.48Kaeltenright and we just need to put a check in those areas that if addon.db.standby then
06:53.04AmadeoTinyTip will take any anchor command.../ttip anchor argh! will set the anchor to "ARGH!"
06:53.08Amadeohaha
06:53.08Kaeltenright which means self.supper.OnInitialize needs to be moved to the bottom of the oninitalize block
06:53.19MikmaAmadeo: hehe cool
06:53.24ckknightbut that violates OO standards, Kael
06:53.32Kaeltenthats true
06:53.45ckknightI'll figure out a way...
06:53.57AmadeoMikma: I wish the offsetcursor faded like cursor did
06:54.03ckknightbasically, it has to fire once the OnInitialize is fully done
06:54.20Kaeltentalking about OnEnable?
06:54.25ckknightyes
06:54.31Kaeltenk
06:54.33Kaeltenhrm
06:54.38ckknightand the registration for OnEnable
06:55.01Kaeltenwell one way would be to have a manager function that just calls addon:OnIntiailze and then does the setup code
06:55.07Kaeltenfor onenable that is
06:55.28ckknightI don't know what you mean
06:56.06ckknightoh
06:56.06ckknighthrm
06:56.07ckknightmaybe.
06:56.29ckknightyea, that'd work...
06:56.32ckknighthacking...
06:56.39Kaeltenbasically I think you could just move the OnEnable code from OnIntialize to InitializeAddon
06:57.09Kaeltenafter OnInitialize gets called
06:57.18AmadeoKaelten: any luck on that OneBag optimization?
06:57.25Kaeltenamadeo which one?
06:57.49Mikmai think i'll have to pop the .xml back soon and check is there something wrong with my OnEvent
06:58.11Mikmasince the addon doesn't properly execute the functions at login, that means there's something wrong :)
06:58.44ckknightyea, that got it, Kael
06:58.49AmadeoKaelten: I dunno, whatever is making Mr Plow laggy :)
06:59.40Kaeltenckknight: then we can reliably check addon.db, and if it doesn't exisit then we can call OnEnable
06:59.53Kaeltenand if it does then we check addon.db.profile.standby
07:00.09Kaeltenwhich I'm assuming where that info is stored
07:01.05Kaeltenamadeo I'm not seeing much lag really
07:01.22KaeltenI'm seeing 2 or 3 change at a time
07:01.32ckknightKaelten, it checks :IsEnabled()
07:01.33CIA-703ckknight * r3945 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - now calls/registers OnEnable _after_ OnInitialize
07:01.36Kaeltenso it can't be too bad
07:01.39ckknightit already does that
07:01.48ckknightit only was weird cause you had RegisterDB in the initialize
07:01.52ckknightnow it's all good
07:02.21CIA-703ckknight 07TestSuite * r3946 10Ace2/ (AceDB-standby-2.lua AceDB-standby-3.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceDB-standby-2.lua and AceDB-standby-3.lua
07:02.24Kaeltenupdating and testing
07:02.40Kaeltenso is there any point in calling self.super.OnInitialize anymore?
07:03.39Kaeltenckknight: after updating I get this: [02:03-567] AceAddon: AceAddon-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0
07:03.39Kaelten<PROTECTED>
07:03.57ckknightthere is a point, Kael
07:04.07ckknightit has to be called in order to get OnEnable to fire
07:05.08Kaeltenhrm I see another way of doing it compared to what you did that would negate the need for that
07:05.32ckknightno issues here, Kael
07:05.43ckknight_no_
07:05.45Kaeltenwell I purposely updated a later loading copy
07:06.03ckknightthe point of the super call is to purposely make OnEnable occur
07:06.14ckknightwithout it, it's manual
07:06.18Kaeltenhrm true
07:06.20ckknightthat's the point
07:06.21Kaeltenforgot about that
07:06.25ckknightit's so you can do it manually
07:06.31ckknightcause it'd be very easy to make it automatic
07:06.33Mikmalol Bartender doesn't work even with .xml
07:06.39ckknightit's just not what we want
07:06.44Kaelten[02:03-567] OneBag\AceAddon\AceAddon-2.0.lua:343: attempt to index a nil value
07:06.49Kaeltenthats the source of it erroring btw
07:07.17ckknightodd
07:07.22KaeltenI updated OneBag's code but not my other addons code, however all the other addons have new enough code where we sohuldn't have any upgrade issues
07:07.23ckknightthat's from the external function
07:07.27Kaeltenyep
07:07.29Mikmai'm having a feeling i miss a ; somewhere or something
07:07.32ckknightinstance must've ben nil
07:07.34ckknightbenn*
07:07.37ckknightbeen*
07:07.38Kaeltenyep
07:07.43ckknightwhich is wrong.
07:08.07Kaeltenyep, which means its an upgrade issue
07:08.19ckknightpossibly.
07:08.33ckknightokay, right at there, change AceEvent = instance to AceEvent = AceLibrary(major)
07:08.37ckknightsee what happens
07:09.18Kaeltenthat error went away but now I have this one
07:09.19Kaelten[02:08-568] OneBag\AceAddon\AceAddon-2.0.lua:407: attempt to index a nil value
07:09.19Kaelten<PROTECTED>
07:09.37ckknightwtf
07:09.41ckknightokay, hacking AceLibrary
07:10.40Kaeltenhrm
07:11.11Kaeltenwhen does external get called?
07:11.45ckknight2 places
07:11.56ckknightwhen your lib gets registered, it calls it for every existing lib
07:12.08ckknightand when a new lib gets registered, it gets called
07:12.36ckknightlol
07:12.39ckknightfound the issue
07:12.41Kaeltenchanging line 347 to this AceConsole = AceLibrary(major)
07:12.42ckknightblast
07:12.45Kaeltenfixed it
07:12.50Kaeltenwhats the issue?
07:13.05Thrae|WoWAbout Warmup...if I do stuff like have 3 tables which I use at ADDON_LOADED then nil out, and nil about 5 different functions, will that make my addon appear "larger" then it really is?
07:13.16ckknight"my bad"
07:13.21CIA-703ckknight * r3947 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - fixed external issue
07:13.27ckknightforgot to pass instance when your lib upgrades
07:13.27Kaeltensimple mistake type thing?
07:13.32Kaeltenlmao
07:13.36Kaeltenthat'll do it eh?
07:13.39ckknightyep.
07:13.49ckknightthat's a major bug :-P
07:13.58ckknightcaused chip's errors earlier
07:14.16ckknightThrae|WoW, technically, yes.
07:14.41Kaeltenok got the work and no errors
07:14.46ckknightright
07:14.48Kaeltenhowever its still calling on enable
07:15.00ckknightum
07:15.04ckknightbadness
07:15.08ckknightokay
07:15.10ckknightin your code
07:15.13ckknightafter registerdb
07:15.20ckknightdo print(self:IsEnabled())
07:16.29Kaeltensays true
07:16.35Kaeltenhowever when I do /ob it says disabled
07:16.52ckknightokay...
07:16.55ckknighttesting.
07:17.52Kaeltenother options are saving properly
07:18.06ckknightokay, seems to be an issue with :RegisterDB not explicitly knowing it's hit ADDON_LOADED yet.
07:18.19ckknightomg tangled web
07:18.31Kaeltenlmao
07:18.37Kaeltenand thats why we're in a beta mode :)
07:18.46Kaeltenbecause I'm going to churn out addons until we find all these damned bugs!
07:19.22ckknightyep
07:19.23ckknightworking.
07:19.38ckknightimportant thing is I'm writing unit tests for each bug we run in to
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07:20.32Kaeltenheh the unit tests are getting truely impressive in pure quantity
07:21.37ckknightyea
07:21.51ckknightyou know what it means when all unit tests go green?
07:22.05ckknight(green meaning pass)
07:22.31ckknightmeans we need to write more unit tests
07:22.46Kaeltenheh
07:23.16Elkano^^
07:27.30Mikmasoon i have changed everything back the way it was and still the addon won't seem to work
07:27.36Elkanook, google has indexed the first chinese page for ElkBuffBar :)
07:28.02Kaeltenneat
07:29.42hyperChipmunk03:13 <@ckknight> that's a major bug :-P
07:29.43hyperChipmunk03:13 <@ckknight> caused chip's errors earlier
07:29.49hyperChipmunkdoes this mean it's not my fault anymore?
07:30.53ElkanoI wonder if I should put it onto svn... since it's not aced (yet? ;) )
07:30.58Kaeltenyep
07:31.01Kaeltennot your fault chip
07:31.04Kaeltenits ck's
07:31.16hyperChipmunkElkano: yes
07:31.20hyperChipmunki had to go to wowi!
07:31.22Kaeltenyou're welcome too if you'd like
07:31.36Kaeltenoh elkano, you looked at Ace2 yet?
07:31.42hyperChipmunkKaelten: good, I can rest easily then
07:31.47Kaeltenlol
07:31.50Kaeltenlike you cared anyway
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07:32.02Kaeltenhehe
07:32.02sedatedChipmunkI care now that it isn't my fault
07:32.16Elkanonot yet, but that's the reason why I've added the "(yet? ;) )" ^^
07:32.29sedatedChipmunkElkano: that addon rules
07:32.32sedatedChipmunkit better go in the svn
07:33.00sedatedChipmunkthe ace project must lay claim to all cool addons if it can
07:33.15Kaeltenlol
07:33.16sedatedChipmunkso we can say, 'yep, that's ours; we totally did that'
07:33.23Elkanook, if someone introduces me into the maic of externals... ;)
07:33.35Kaeltenwhatcha need to know elkano?
07:33.36sedatedChipmunksvn propedit svn:externals
07:34.00Kaeltenckknight: so the problem is that AceAddon's AddonLoaded is getting called first?
07:34.07sedatedChipmunkdo it on a directory that already has externals, and it'll be self-explanatory from there
07:34.43Elkanowell, I've included compost into the addon and I know I should set that file as an external ^^ but how to start? first upload the addon to the svn and than change that file to an external?
07:34.45sedatedChipmunke.g. svn propedit svn:externals Ace2
07:34.59sedatedChipmunkeither way
07:35.05sedatedChipmunkthe external will go in with a commit
07:35.15sedatedChipmunkor an import, I'd assume
07:35.17Kaeltenwell you should delete that folder,s et the external and do an update
07:35.25Mikmawell i switched back to Bartender 1.031b .. atleast it works
07:35.33sedatedChipmunkright, you don't want the external directory with the import/commit
07:35.39sedatedChipmunkthe svn puts it there for you
07:36.00sedatedChipmunkwhat I do is import the project without any of the externals
07:36.06sedatedChipmunkthen edit the externals
07:36.13sedatedChipmunkcommit to apply them
07:36.17sedatedChipmunkand update
07:36.27sedatedChipmunkto get them from the svn
07:36.48sedatedChipmunkfrom then on, it's just update
07:36.53Galka_Let see
07:36.56Galka_Lets see...
07:36.57sedatedChipmunkprobably better ways of doign it
07:36.58ElkanoI'm using Tortoise as svn client (or better said as GUI)
07:37.00Galka_Druid or Rogue?
07:37.18sedatedChipmunkbut it's the way I ended up doing the first time, and it works =P
07:37.22Thrae|WoWDruid if you like to hurt yourself, Rogue if you like to hurt others.
07:37.32sedatedChipmunkand i do it infrequent enough not to care about shaving seconds off the process
07:38.11sedatedChipmunkthe process would be the same; you'll have to ask someone else how to edit the properties
07:38.20Elkanoso I would do a checkout of compost into EBB's folder and then comit EBB?
07:38.21KaeltenElkano: go to the property tabs of the folder and see the subversion tab
07:38.22sedatedChipmunkcommandline it's just propadd
07:38.27Kaeltenno
07:38.48Kaeltenon the drop down on that tab you go to svn:externals
07:38.53sedatedChipmunkyou commit EBB with external properties
07:38.55CIA-703ckknight * r3948 10Ace2/ (AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua): Ace2 - :RegisterDB now works in :OnEnable
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07:39.06sedatedChipmunkand the svn will include them on anyone's checkout/export/update
07:39.14ckknightI'm mad at the bunny for being sick.
07:39.23sedatedChipmunkyou don't upload them; the external files are already there in the svn
07:39.31sedatedChipmunkyou just tell where to find them
07:39.33Kaeltenand then type in "<TargetDirectory> <svnLocation>"
07:39.45KaeltensedatedChipmunk: I'm telling him how to do it, not just to do it :)
07:40.00sedatedChipmunkand where they go in your project
07:40.03ckknightI'll tell him how!
07:40.07CIA-703mikma * r3949 10Bartender/ (BarFuncs.lua BarLayout.lua Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: switched the old working version back to SVN in case someone actually uses this addon
07:40.07sedatedChipmunkwell there's no Tortoise for linux
07:40.14ckknighthttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/svn:external
07:40.15sedatedChipmunkI'm doing the best i can =\
07:40.26ckknighthttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Svn:external actually
07:40.40ckknightyea.
07:40.41Mikmaoh right
07:40.45Kaeltenya thats a good tutorial on how to do it :)
07:40.52Kaeltenckknight: [02:40-575] OneBag\AceDB\AceDB-2.0.lua:476: attempt to index field `addonsLoaded' (a nil value)
07:40.52Kaelten<PROTECTED>
07:41.02ckknightk
07:41.48CIA-703mikma * r3950 10Bartender/Bartender.xml: Bartender: This file is still needed in old version
07:41.51sedatedChipmunkk, i'm go bed now
07:41.55Kaeltenhow does that get called before activate?
07:41.58sedatedChipmunknothing is my fault
07:42.01CIA-703ckknight * r3951 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB - tweaked activate function
07:42.06ckknighttry now?
07:42.18sedatedChipmunkand I'll go before I manage to change that
07:42.20Elkanook, when I import my ElkBuffBar directory, I'll have to import to http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/ElkBuffBar/ correct? or to trunk/?
07:42.38Kaeltensame error
07:42.46ckknightum
07:42.47Kaeltenelkano correct
07:42.48MikmaElkano: that's correct
07:42.50ckknightwtf, mate?
07:43.29sedatedChipmunkonly Thrae|WoW updates to trunk /smirk
07:43.35Kaeltenckknight: I get the same error
07:43.37CIA-703elkano * r3952 10ElkBuffBar/ (6 files): ElkBuffBar - initial import of 1.1a
07:43.49Kaelten~cheer Elkano
07:43.54purlACTION cheers Elkano on
07:43.56sedatedChipmunkand there was much rejoicing
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07:44.45Kaeltenwb ckknight
07:45.06sedatedChipmunknow jsut edit your externals and commit, and everything's peachy
07:45.20sedatedChipmunkyour next update will pull down the libs
07:45.25Kaeltenckknight: looks like ADDON_LOADED is getting called before activate
07:46.18ckknightseems so
07:46.27sedatedChipmunkElkano: hurry up so i can go to bed =)
07:46.32ckknightwhich is thoroughly odd
07:46.45ckknightsince activate is called as soon as :Register is
07:46.45Kaeltenwell I jury rigged the event handler
07:46.52Kaeltenand now I'm getting some truely fucked up errors
07:46.58ckknighthrm?
07:47.16ckknightdo a print(debugstack()) on the error line.
07:47.26Kaelten[02:46-579] OneBag\AceDB\AceDB-2.0.lua:547: AceDB-2.0: AceDB-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0
07:47.26Kaelten<PROTECTED>
07:47.26Kaelten[02:46-579] ...erface\KC_PlayerFramePlus\AceOO\AceOO-2.0.lua:566: AceDB-2.0: AceDB-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0
07:47.40Elkanowin svn:externals seperating name and folder by spaces? or tabs?
07:47.47sedatedChipmunkeither
07:47.48Kaeltenspace
07:47.51Elkanok
07:47.55Kaeltenat least I do space
07:47.56sedatedChipmunkfine, space
07:48.01Kaeltennever tried tab
07:48.02sedatedChipmunki think I do tab =)
07:48.22ckknightElkano, spaces or tabs
07:48.36sedatedChipmunkno, looks liek I do spaces, too
07:48.51sedatedChipmunkonly because Metrognome and CompostLib are the same length though
07:48.59sedatedChipmunkotherwise I would have tabbed it =p
07:49.02CIA-703elkano * r3953 10ElkBuffBar/: ElkBuffBar - first try on externals
07:49.13sedatedChipmunkwoo
07:49.15sedatedChipmunkworks
07:49.21sedatedChipmunkway to not suck
07:49.44sedatedChipmunklook out folks
07:49.45Elkanook, next step will be taging this version and then I'll put up my working copy :)
07:49.46sedatedChipmunkhe's dangerous
07:49.47Kaeltenck I did the debug stack but can't copy and paste because blizz's chatframe sucks
07:49.55ckknight:-P
07:49.59sedatedChipmunkhehe
07:50.07sedatedChipmunkchatcopy!
07:50.17Kaeltenchatcopy?
07:50.20sedatedChipmunkan addon
07:50.24Kaeltenhrm
07:50.29sedatedChipmunkpops up an editbox wiht your current chat contents
07:50.34sedatedChipmunkit's really crappily done
07:50.37sedatedChipmunkbut it works
07:50.53Mikmawhat about ChatLog?
07:50.57sedatedChipmunki never really checked for anything else; probably something out there that does it better
07:50.58Mikmacan you copy text from that one?
07:51.13KaeltenAceDB: 546 AceLibrary :623 AceDB: 591 are the file and lines of the error trace though
07:51.16sedatedChipmunki just downloaded one day that I needed to copy
07:51.31Industrialhaste: 1) http://tinyurl.com/oplmd  2) http://tinyurl.com/o9n3e  3) http://tinyurl.com/pcnlo  4) http://tinyurl.com/llkgr  5) http://tinyurl.com/nggxz
07:51.32sedatedChipmunkand i just leave it disabled 99% of the time
07:51.34Industrialhaste: :p
07:51.38MikmaIndustrial: /poke
07:51.40Industrialmorning
07:51.44Mikmamorning
07:51.52sedatedChipmunkg'night
07:52.02IndustrialsedatedChipmunk: nn
07:52.04sedatedChipmunkmonitor *off*
07:52.08sedatedChipmunkreally =P
07:52.20sedatedChipmunkok not really
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07:52.43Kaeltenckknight: what the hell changed to make activate bomb?
07:53.12ckknight_just throw print statements everywhere
07:53.20ckknight_specifically in AceLibrary
07:53.24Elkanook, so taging is simply copying to root/tags/<addon>/<version>/ ?
07:53.36KaeltenElkano: yes
07:53.52KaeltenElkano: but you'll need to manually create the <addon> part of that before you try to tag or it'll bomb
07:54.25Elkanosince it can't create two folders at the same time?
07:54.30Kaeltenright
07:54.48Kaeltenyou can make the folder using tortises repo-browser
07:55.16CIA-703elkano * r3954 10/tags/ElkBuffBar/: ElkBuffBar - Created tag folder
07:55.41CIA-703elkano 071.1a * r3955 10ElkBuffBar/: ElkBuffBar - added tag for 1.1a
07:55.49Kaeltenwoot
07:58.00CIA-703elkano * r3956 10ElkBuffBar/ (ElkBuffBar.lua ElkBuffBar.xml):
07:58.00CIA-7ElkBuffBar - updated to working copy
07:58.00CIA-7added some new slash commands
07:58.00CIA-7took over positioning
07:58.35Elkanook, here you go :)
08:00.04Elkanofeel free to test the new features :)
08:01.55CIA-703mikma * r3957 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: Shapeshift bar is back
08:02.31CIA-703mikma * r3958 10Bartender/Bartender.xml: Bartender: removed useless .xml
08:02.34Mikmaoh btw that version is prpably the same as some revisions back
08:02.53Mikmaand it will restore db since the shapeshift bar is back, enjoy i'm off to do some hard work
08:08.57Kaeltenckknight_: I think I understand some of whats going on
08:09.01Kaeltenits another upgrade issue
08:09.07AmadeoCan someone take the addon called ChatBox and Ace it? :P
08:09.11AmadeoOh yeah, and maintain it? hahah
08:09.22Kaeltenna I don't do that second thing Amadeo
08:09.51Kaeltenckknight_: I'm pretty sure it has to do with the small lapse between upgrades
08:10.07Kaeltenor I could be sleep deprived and out of my mind
08:10.23AmadeoKaelten: I'll make you a deal...I'll upload it if you code it :P
08:10.41Kaeltenlol
08:10.46AmadeoFair, right!?
08:10.53Kaeltenerr
08:10.55Amadeohahah
08:10.57Kaeltenmaybe one day
08:11.27AmadeoDon't worry, I don't want to take you away from OneBag/Ace2/KCI/Insert_Mod
08:11.44Kaeltenheh, I do have a handful don't I?
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08:12.12Kaeltenluckily I have a wonderful new python script based off of ck's to help with distroing them
08:12.58AmadeoYeah, you code too much!
08:13.09AmadeoYou should do one at a time so they get finished fast :)
08:13.30Kaeltenheh, that kinda works
08:13.32Kaeltenbut not really
08:14.25Amadeohaha
08:14.33AmadeoDo you have ADD like me? :P
08:15.11KaeltenI got diagnosed with a very slight case of ADD years and years ago
08:15.38Kaeltenthink I should bother to allow the user to colorize the background of the onebag frame?
08:16.48Amadeohm
08:17.07MoonWolfrelevant to this channel
08:17.14MoonWolfelestic tabstops!
08:17.16MoonWolfhttp://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/
08:17.16AmadeoI'd never use it, personally...how much would it add to the code?
08:17.41Kaeltenmaybe 15 lines
08:17.48AmadeoI mean if it's just a quick and easy thing, why not? But if it'll add too much, no reason to imo
08:18.38AmadeoI like how the keyring opens up top now
08:19.52Kaeltenthanks, makes more sense
08:20.14Kaeltenit also gets the same alpha properties and scaling as you setup for ob
08:20.28Amadeovery nice
08:20.49KaeltenI just don't see the point of rewriting the keyring to look like ob's frames
08:21.06KaeltenI say that and I think of an easy way to do it
08:21.34Kaeltenshould I?
08:21.35Wobinhehe
08:21.41Industrial< Amadeo> Can someone take the addon called ChatBox and Ace it? :P
08:21.43WobinDamn you inspiration, damn you
08:21.45Industrialwhat does chatbox do?
08:21.54AmadeoIndustrial: More than you want in yours :)
08:21.55Amadeohaha
08:22.02Amadeolike...
08:22.19Amadeocolors player names by class in the box
08:22.19WobinKael, if you find an easy way to do it, do it.
08:22.25Amadeoand that enchant stuff
08:23.05Industrialyou can only color the class of the players you know the class of
08:23.13Industrialand thats unneeded because you know their class
08:23.14Industrial:P
08:23.17Industriallike, raid people
08:23.45Industrialand everyone sells enchants differently
08:23.54Industriali cant cater to 30 styles of selling anchants
08:23.57Industrialenchants*
08:24.35WobinThat's what Fizzwidget's advertising thing does
08:24.54Industrialyep
08:25.01Industrialbut in 1 format
08:25.02Industrial:P
08:25.39AmadeoIndustrial: Ew, so maybe ChatBox is making some huge name database
08:26.18Industrial*shrug*
08:26.54Industrialhmm
08:27.04Industrialanyone know some good torrent sites? i always use mininova.org
08:27.40Wobinm
08:27.41Wobinum
08:27.46Wobinthepiratebay.org
08:27.51Wobinisohunt.com
08:28.16Wobinthat usually covers what I'm looking for
08:28.31Industrialthepiratebay got closed remember :P
08:29.47phybermorning.
08:29.55AmadeoI use isohunt too
08:30.12WobinGo to www.thepiratebay.org =P
08:30.19WobinNote their new logo
08:30.47Kaeltenhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1640.new#new
08:30.50Kaeltentell me how that looks?
08:31.42KaeltenI could hide the keys and resize it to be smaller
08:31.43Kaeltenhrm
08:33.26MoonWolfwell, the ability to HIDE it would be nice.
08:34.18Kaeltenwell what I'm actually doing with that one is hiding the textures on the default blizz's keyring and giving it a backdrop
08:35.19Kaeltenbut I can butcher their frame a little bit more :)
08:35.51Kaeltenckknight_: when I upgrade the other instance of ace2 libs I had the errors all went away
08:36.11MoonWolfKaelten, CHEATER.'
08:36.19AmadeoQuestion about addons...if you're using an addon to replace one of Blizzard's...will Blizzards load also, like the raid stuff currently does?
08:36.24Kaeltentalking about on the keyring?
08:36.29MoonWolfyes
08:36.32Kaeltenamadeo depends, but mostlikely yes
08:36.38MoonWolf:p
08:36.40Amadeohow can you stop that?
08:36.41Kaeltenmoonwolf well what can I say, its easy :)
08:36.48Kaeltenamadeo depends on the addon
08:37.10KaeltenI can't stop the container code from loading
08:37.16AmadeoI see
08:37.43Kaeltenpretty much you can only stop the ones that show up in the addons folder
08:37.55AmadeoKaelten: Do you use Mr. Plow?
08:38.01Kaeltenyes
08:38.26AmadeoDo you notice it lagging you more than usual with OneBag compared to others?
08:38.35Amadeonot sure if it's just me or what
08:38.36Kaeltenone sec I'll test
08:38.58Amadeomy bags are nearly full also
08:39.01Amadeoprobably doesn't help
08:39.22WobinI've never noticed slowdowns in MrPlow that I haven't attributed to lag =(
08:39.36Wobinso I need people with no latency to test it for me =P
08:40.24Amadeothat counts me out
08:40.24Amadeohaha
08:40.47KaeltenAmadeo: I don't notice any major difference between onebag and bagnon
08:41.00Amadeook, maybe it's just me then :)
08:41.12AmadeoI'll test it again later today, after I sleep
08:41.13Amadeohaha
08:41.16Kaeltenlol
08:41.36KaeltenI'm going to start cleaning up the code more for OneBag and then work on OneBank
08:41.44Kaeltendo you guys think I should write a OneCore?
08:42.27Kaeltento sorta do the same thing as Bagnon_core (i.e. the dynamic LOD of OneBag and OneBank)?
08:43.33Kaelten....?
08:43.36Kaelten.?.
08:45.04Industrialno idea ;p
08:46.06AmadeoI think I have no ability left to think
08:46.07Amadeonight :)
08:46.36WobinKaelten: Meh
08:46.41WobinI don't think it's necessary
08:49.39Industrialdoo dee doo
08:49.45KaeltenI've thought about it anyway as a place to store common code for the two mods
08:49.56IndustrialKaelten: make an embed :P
08:49.59Industrialjust kidding
08:50.00Industrial:>
08:50.21CIA-703mikma * r3959 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: version changed, nothing else
08:50.29Mikmagah
08:50.37Mikmagotta go work some outside :P
08:50.42Mikmait's freaking hot in there
08:51.06Mikma10:34: 24.1°C (in shadow)
08:51.18Mikmait's getting warner every moment
08:51.36Industrial;\
08:52.38MikmaIndustrial: you gotta help me later with bartender! :P nobody want's to help me *sob*
08:53.28IndustrialMikma: Later (tm)
08:54.11IndustrialI need to go to school and fill some stuff in
08:54.11IndustrialMikma: Ill be back around 1300 gmt+1
08:54.22MikmaIndustrial: well i will be on much later than that :P
08:54.27Industrial;X
08:54.43Mikmamy sister and her husband are building a house next to my mom...
08:54.56Industrial:o
08:55.34Mikmanow we gotta take the wooden frame off around it
08:56.03Mikmathey did the concrete or something some days ago and it's dry now
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08:59.42Industrial\m/ -_- \m/
09:00.26Mikmaomg teh mark of teh devil!
09:01.05Kaeltengnight everyone
09:03.02Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4430-1-autobar-toadkiller.html
09:09.53CIA-703ammo * r3960 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua:
09:09.53CIA-7BigWigs (Razuvious):
09:09.53CIA-7* Registering the PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED event since we're trying to do stuff with it.
09:10.13MoonWolfammo, brilliant move!
09:10.38ElkanoMoonWolf, how is Mendeleev going? ;)
09:10.48MoonWolfnot!
09:11.01MoonWolfi should find some motivation somwhere
09:11.12MoonWolfmaybe i can borrow some of kergoths medication
09:11.38Elkanoif you find some, bring some more for the other in the channel... or take some from ck ;)
09:12.23MoonWolfits working for now anyway
09:16.58[Ammo]Moonwolf: yeah well Kebinusan tried to make a wipe detection thing for razuvious but he failed because he didn't register that event :p
09:17.17MoonWolfhehe
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09:25.38TupladOneBag has Bank Support right ?
09:28.01MoonWolfno
09:28.11Tupladwill it have one ?
09:30.02MoonWolfi do think kael wants to make it yes.
09:32.29Tupladgreat
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09:45.16purl20.714285714286
09:45.35Wobin~41/1.8
09:45.36purl22.777777777778
09:45.40Wobinfeh
09:45.49Wobinmy wand has better dps than my shadowbolt =P
09:46.24MoonWolfyay
09:46.36MoonWolfwands should take into account +spelldamage
09:46.44MoonWolfand they should receive the full bonus
09:46.50MoonWolfand then you get a 1.00 speed wand
09:47.06MoonWolfragnaros wanded to death by 40 priests
09:51.08Elkanoanyone that is thinking that logic is fun? http://www.ps.uni-sb.de/courses/cl-ss06/assignments/ass-10.pdf :/
09:58.22hastethis computer dies when it opens a pdf file
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10:15.24MoonWolfthe pdf is fine.
10:16.06MikmaWobin: use wand then ;D
10:16.17Mikmapeople always underestimate the power of wand
10:16.21WobinIt's just ironic =P
10:16.26Mikmayeah it really is
10:16.33Tupladwand > bow imo
10:16.35WobinI'm supposed to be a 'lock
10:16.44Wobinwith the damage dealing and all
10:16.46NeronixMorning
10:16.49Wobin(granted, I'm only level... 14)
10:17.05Mikmathe best method for priests is sw:p, wand, wand, wand, wand, lowlevel fear, wand, wand, wand
10:17.44Mikmaok gone again ->
10:18.22Slaymanthe best for priest is: PW:S Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2 .... tank alive, mana saved, everything's fine
10:19.06Wobinwhy lowlevelfear?
10:19.12Wobinaside from mana
10:19.20Slaymanlower mana costs
10:19.30Wobinwhich you shouldn't have a problem with using that technique =P
10:19.39Slaymanand the lower the fear the lesser targets affected
10:19.57Slaymans/lesser/lesser numbers/
10:20.08Slaymanmmh that sentence sucks
10:38.51hastenote to self: don't travel to booty bay now
10:43.16Shyvanooty bay is fun :P
10:43.33Shyva*booty
10:46.56MikmaWobin: leveling a priest like that usually is the best tactic
10:47.18Wobinbut slow =P
10:47.37Mikmaslow? if wand has more dps than spells
10:47.59Mikmathat means less manadrinkpauses
10:50.05Shyvajust go shadow, and power lvl :)
10:50.22Mikmathat's a good way too
10:50.40Mikmaremember to have MageInaLeach
10:54.11hasteShyva, it's not fun with a L40 char when it's being camped by a 100 L60s :p
10:54.14hastesince the guards are drunk
10:55.10Shyvaooh ;p go there with a lvl 60 then xD and help them ganking lowbies? :p
10:55.28MoonWolfSlayman, why the rank 2 ?
10:55.42MoonWolfwhats wrong with higher ranks or greater heal ?
10:56.07SlaymanU didn't come up with that in the firt place moony
10:56.12Slaymanaahhh u mean heal
10:56.24MoonWolfyeah
10:57.05hasteShyva, I don't think my shaman/warlock can solo all those alliance :p
10:57.22Slaymanwell Heal rank 2 with decent healing gear heals 1000HP noncrit, and costs 205 Mana so you have a decent Mana to hp quote, and i can heal continously without a break for at least 5-6mins
10:57.29ShyvaYour shaman can :o they can do everything! :o
10:57.39MoonWolfSlayman, so why not heal rank 1 ?
10:57.57hasteShyva, my shamans spec is: 0/5/46 ie: spell damage/melee damage/healing
10:58.13hasteI can heal myself untill they get tired of beating on me however
10:58.14Slaymanthat one heals only about 750 which is too little for raiding as heal hast a cast time of 2.5 secs
10:58.28Shyvahehe, ok haste :p
10:58.56hasteand my warlock is destrution atm :p
11:00.12MoonWolfk
11:01.57Slaymanmathematically:  rank 1 has an efficiency of around 4.8 (rounded) and Rank 2 has 4.9 (rounded), higher ranks appear to have higher effiency after all, but in the 2.5sec of cast time i can reg about 100-150 mana so u see in the end it's a question of favor ...
11:02.50Gngskyou must be horde, because last time I checked, paladins had pretty good 2.5s heals
11:03.03MoonWolfwe are talking about priests
11:03.18Mikmaproies
11:03.26Gngskright, but what's the point of spamming a 2.5s heal as a priest if paladins are already doing the same thing?
11:03.47hasteand druids :p
11:04.18Gngskwell, druids have HoTs, so they're usually less likely to just be spamming their healing touch
11:04.38Elkanopriests have HoTs, too ;)
11:04.44MoonWolfrenew!
11:04.52Shyvarenew rocks :)
11:04.53hastedruids in our guild have around 1k +healing, the cast time is shorter, and the mana cost of basicly zero
11:05.14MoonWolfriiight, so why do we have priests then ?
11:05.28hastedruids can mostly only be used for MT healing
11:05.32hastesince their heals are slow
11:05.51Shyvapriests heal more per second, so when needed they can burst out a lot of health
11:06.14hastethen again, my shaman can burst as much
11:06.16CIA-703ammo * r3961 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Patchwerk.lua:
11:06.16CIA-7BigWigs:
11:06.16CIA-7* Added Patchwerk module based on Lute's work.
11:06.16CIA-7* Corrected all the stuff he did wrong :)
11:06.16CIA-7* TODO: Patchwerk enrages at 7 minutes or 5% whichever comes first, fix that. Add to .toc as well if anyone tested it :)
11:06.40Shyvaflash heal > gheal
11:06.55MoonWolfisnt flash heal less efficient ?
11:06.58Shyvait is
11:07.09Shyvabut gheals are always to late in a raid
11:07.24MoonWolf(has a lvl 21 priest) I never even touched flash heal.
11:07.29Shyvao.0
11:08.02hastehow much does the highest rank of flash heal crit for?
11:08.11Gngskomg ammo! wipe detection in raz module plz
11:08.18Shyvadepends on your talents
11:08.18hasteI ask crit since I don't remember what my lesser healing waves hit for :p
11:08.26CIA-703ammo * r3962 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua:
11:08.26CIA-7Bigwigs (Razuvious):
11:08.26CIA-7* corrected metro, Metro typos.
11:09.12MoonWolfin dm i usually chain cast heal rank 1 on tanks
11:09.28MoonWolfand sometimes lesser heal rank 3 on others when they need some help
11:09.35Gngskdeadmines?
11:09.39MoonWolfyeah
11:09.44hasteraided* :<
11:09.52MoonWolfwhy raid deadmines ?
11:10.07hastewe were bored at a LAN
11:10.12hastewe even put up a DKP site that time -> http://der.se/mms/viewnews.php
11:10.20MoonWolflolol
11:10.29Shyvahaha
11:10.48MoonWolflol
11:10.51MoonWolfcookie is a whimp
11:11.01MoonWolfactually every boss in dm is a whimp
11:11.14hastenot when they are red :p
11:11.26MoonWolflast run the lvl 19 warrior tanked vc en combat stance.
11:11.30MoonWolfin*
11:11.36hastewe were L15 tho :p
11:11.45hastethe bosses are red for us then
11:11.49MoonWolfkk
11:11.59MoonWolfwhole team of priests taking care of the mt ?
11:12.19hastewe had one priest and a paladin
11:12.20MoonWolfsome of the "trash"  pulls might be pretty hard then.
11:12.41MoonWolflike the last ramp up to Vancleef
11:12.45MoonWolfor the ore melting room place
11:13.24hastethe last guy (which I don't remmeber the name of etc) was rahter interesting
11:13.29MoonWolfhttp://bin.4chan.org/a/src/1151969597524.jpg
11:13.34hastesince non of us had played alliance / been in DM before ;D
11:13.36MoonWolflast guy ?
11:13.45MoonWolfvancleef with his adds ?
11:13.48hastethe one in the room at the top of the boat
11:13.55MoonWolfyeah that is vancleef
11:14.13MoonWolfstarts with two stealthed adds, gets two more along the way
11:14.34hastewe wiped a couple of times on him ;D
11:15.12hasteand that image - that sounds so wierd when you remove the whole discussion
11:15.20MoonWolfusually , sheep on add, have on person tank vc, take down one add, kill sheeped add, dps vancleef. ignore the new adds untill vancleef dies.
11:15.34hastewe didn't have a mage I think
11:15.50MoonWolfsap works too.
11:15.55hastenot at L15 :p
11:15.59MoonWolfright
11:16.01MoonWolffucked then
11:16.03hasteyou can't even sap the trash
11:16.21MoonWolfyou might get really lucky
11:16.35hastewe managed to kill him before the adds took us I think
11:17.12hasteIt's half a year since we did it tho :p
11:18.12hasteanyway, going to buy myself a new headset now
11:18.22MoonWolfhave fun
11:18.23haste*waves*
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11:27.26Wobinoh.
11:27.34WobinDoesn't onebag have cooldown indicators?
11:27.38Wobinor do I have an old version?
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11:38.22CIA-703ammo * r3963 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Patchwerk.lua:
11:38.22CIA-7BigWigs (Patchwerk):
11:38.22CIA-7* Further cleanup of the code and toggleoptions
11:40.26Elkanowow, just notice how good google earth's quality of my place is...
11:40.59[Ammo]google earth, terrorisms best friend
11:45.22Shyvapff, bullshit [Ammo] :o
11:46.11Shyvaterrorism is just a populair word for a criminal who believes in another god.. :-/
11:47.55[Ammo]:)
11:48.17[Ammo]I mean why scout a neighbourhood in person when you can do it with google earth, or better microsoft virtual earth with birdseye view :)
11:53.11NeronixWall of gaming nostalgia hits Neronix for 16
11:59.41MoonWolfwhy scout a neighbourhood when you can buy a map ?
11:59.57MoonWolfa map, terrorisms best friend.
12:00.34MoonWolfi loved those games.
12:00.48hasteMoonWolf, ended up with Koss Porta Pro
12:01.09MoonWolf:O
12:02.42MoonWolfnever heard of them
12:02.52MoonWolfgot a link to the specific model /
12:02.53MoonWolf?*
12:03.33hastehttp://www.geocities.com/jyroflux/images/porta-pro.jpg
12:03.45MoonWolflooks nice
12:05.25MoonWolfhow is the sound on it so far ?
12:06.29hastegood, but not as good as my Sony headset
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12:06.52hastelittle bit to much bass, but I guess it's more or less a personal opinion
12:07.26MoonWolfcant you tune the bass down a bit in the driver/software/profile
12:08.15hasteusing it on my MP3 player ;)
12:09.18hastehehe: start -> Programs; I see three programs: Firefox, Ventrilo and X-Chat
12:09.36hastePretty much displays what I use this laptop for :p
12:10.29MoonWolfhehe
12:10.37MoonWolfits a communication laptop
12:11.48hasteit was only running Ventrilo before, but I decided to move IRC to the laptop since my computer was haivng X lockups quite often for a while
12:11.53phyber\o/ I might have a trial with the top guild on my realm.  maybe i can see something other than lava packs now.
12:12.16hastephyber, I've been in the same guild since L50 ;D
12:12.22hastewhich is the top guild atm :p
12:12.37hastewe have only changed a couple of members since we merged the guild alliance
12:13.30phyberthis guild were looking for a hunter and a warlock.  tons of hunter apps, but only me applying for the warlock one, it seems.
12:13.43phyberunless others did it privately like i did.
12:13.50phyberguild officers spying on other forums, etc.
12:15.07hastehehe
12:15.12Industrialhaste: not sure if you got it
12:15.14Industrialhaste: 1) http://tinyurl.com/oplmd  2) http://tinyurl.com/o9n3e  3) http://tinyurl.com/pcnlo  4) http://tinyurl.com/llkgr  5) http://tinyurl.com/nggxz
12:15.18Industrial:P
12:15.27Industrialyou asked for industrial samples
12:15.36IndustrialAll I could find in a short time
12:15.39hasteindustrial metal! :p
12:15.45hastein the style of Kovenant
12:15.47Industrialthere is no such thing :>
12:15.50Industrialoh uhm
12:16.19Industrial*think*
12:16.29Industrialask MoonWolf
12:16.30Industrial:P
12:16.36hasteKovenant is industrial (black at times) metal / avent garden
12:17.47MoonWolfindustrial metal.... that wold be new.
12:18.02MoonWolfwould*
12:18.29MoonWolfI know of no really industrial metal, most of those things would go under another name i think, dark or speed metal.
12:19.19Industrialpower metal! \m/ -_- \m/
12:22.10NeronixHmm.. WCRadio's live
12:22.28NeronixAnd it's metal, metal, a bit more metal, and by the way... some metal :P
12:22.54NeronixAnd it's J-Metal right now O.o
12:23.10NeronixHaMC... never heard them for a while ^^
12:24.06hasteIndustrial, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebfpI9obBOQ << it's more or less avent garden however
12:25.59MoonWolfNeronix, luku is playing, that guy only plays  everything you sendhim :P
12:26.12MoonWolfTB ftw!
12:26.33NeronixYeah
12:26.41NeronixAnd I need to listen to EPIC more
12:27.07Industrialhaste: !! -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqYjqyHnVNs&search=dragonforce
12:27.13Industrial\o/
12:27.13Neronixhaste: If you're looking for any kind of metal, listen to WoW Radio :P
12:27.15Industrial_o_
12:27.17Industrial\o/
12:27.18MoonWolfI mostly like TB because you can have cool discussions about music with him
12:27.21Industrial_o_
12:28.20hasteIndustrial, dragonforce on solos, but they sound good ;)
12:28.35hastetheir solos that is
12:28.37MoonWolfexcept for the looks of the band members
12:28.42MoonWolfthats a pretty good band (kovenant)
12:29.06hasteKovenant was named Covenant before, makes it a PITA to get their old songs
12:29.22hastebut then agian - most people don't like the old kovenant
12:30.58hastehttp://youtube.com/watch?v=sOy0wQaCfS8 << that song is from the album before the one Star By Star is on
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12:37.30Industrialhaste: yeah but there was this ebm/industrial band (lol) named Covenant in 1988
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12:40.29hasteIndustrial, it was the swedish industrial band covenant that sued them ;D
12:40.38hastewhich is basicly the one you are refering too
12:40.55hasteand the old Kovenant was symphonic black metal
12:40.59hasteand I'm leaving for work now, bye
12:41.31ShyvaCyu haste
12:44.20IndustrialMoonWolf: :)
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12:50.01MoonWolfyay
12:50.06MoonWolfluku is playing my request.
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13:34.08phyberhttp://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-en&t=48525&p=1&tmp=1#post48525
13:34.14phybersomeone put Tekkub's post in the EU forum :)
13:34.44phyber(asking for blizzard to add a "CTRA channel" to the standard API)
13:35.32CIA-703ammo * r3964 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc:
13:35.32CIA-7BigWigs:
13:35.32CIA-7* added patchwerk to the .toc.
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14:14.34AmadeoIt's quiet...too quiet...
14:15.10MoonWolfGnome dualwielding polearms in slow motion...
14:16.02AmadeoPain...
14:16.08KebinusanDarmok and Gilad at Tanagra.
14:18.14TekcubDarmok on the ocean!
14:18.50KebinusanShaka, when the walls fell.
14:19.56AmadeoTekcub: QuestFu looks kinda funny now
14:20.03Tekcubwhy?
14:20.27AmadeoIt has green <1> things, which I think represent if someone else is on the quest...but I don't remember them being there before
14:20.38Amadeoit's to the right of quests
14:20.43Amadeowithout a space I believe
14:20.44Tekcubokey, so why are you telling me?
14:21.11AmadeoAfter you fixed the bug it showed up!
14:22.00Kebinusanhot
14:22.01Kebinusanhttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2839
14:22.11Kebinusansomeone was asking for something like that a week ago or so
14:22.11MoonWolfhttp://home.comcast.net/~gotnks2/WoW/PrivateParts.jpg <- lol
14:22.12Tekcubokey....
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14:22.29Kebinusanmoon, yeah we have a private parts on our server
14:22.46Kebinusanmade me laugh pretty hard
14:24.12AmadeoDAMN
14:24.13AmadeoThat was my idea
14:24.19Amadeowhat server are you from?
14:24.26KebinusanShadowsong-US
14:24.44Amadeohm
14:25.13AmadeoWhen the honor system was just added in, I told my friend I was going to make a Private Parts...I made the Dwarf and all and got about 100 HKs in a group, but I never ranked up
14:25.16Amadeoso I gave up, lol
14:25.22AmadeoI didn't want to level him, he was like level 3
14:25.30Kebinusanheh
14:26.17AmadeoHow does a um...
14:26.22Amadeoargh, now I forgot the name
14:26.30Amadeothe trinket that changes you into an enemy race
14:26.36Amadeo...mind is blank
14:26.44mjchttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/05/08
14:26.56AmadeoOrb of Deception
14:27.09AmadeoCan that turn you into a female if you're a male, and so forth?
14:27.10IndustrialMoonWolf: LOL
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14:29.20ag`is there any way to detect if you're moving or not?
14:29.28Amadeohey Industrial
14:29.50AmadeoIs there or can you add a slash command or something to idChat that will let you change the language you're speaking?
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14:36.16Wobinblah
14:36.40WobinThere's something about using '-smile-' instead of ':)' in a post that comes across as so utterly condescending =P
14:37.05Wobin"IIRC, you said DP was slightly better than DS. Not exactly the exact opposite, IMO. -smile- "
14:37.14Wobin. o O (So smarmy =P)
14:37.36CIA-703kaelten * r3965 10OneBag/libs/: OneBag - testing
14:38.27AmadeoWobin: I think using proper smilies is the best way to piss someone off
14:38.28Amadeohaha
14:39.02AmadeoKaelten is pretending to be away
14:39.13Amadeobut you can't hide things from CIA-7
14:40.58Amadeowhoa! NO WAY
14:41.02AmadeoMiniGroup Pre5 is out
14:41.08Amadeoandreasg didn't lie!
14:41.34ag`why would I? :o
14:41.52NeronixAmadeo's pwnt
14:42.01CIA-703kaelten * r3966 10OneBag/ (. OneBag.toc): OneBag - Moved externals all under a libs folder.
14:42.14Amadeohahaha
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14:43.02Amadeoag`: Any plans on Ace2'ing it up?
14:46.23ag`yeah
14:46.32ag`Don't think that's going to be hard
14:46.37KaeltenAwayI'm away I swear!
14:46.47ag`or so've people said
14:46.55KaeltenAwayits not too bad
14:46.59Neronixag`: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Ace2_Tutorial_For_Those_Familliar_With_Ace1.x
14:47.36ag`Oh, you include all the files in each addon?
14:47.39NeronixAnd don't forget that we have an SVN for anyone to use
14:48.04ag`yeah, I am using to SVN til get addons (haven't put anything there though, yet)
14:48.09ag`*to get
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14:49.33TainOneBag is working good for me so far.  I haven't had any issues yet.
14:49.58ag`I can't scale it anymore ^^
14:50.46TainScale.. I never tried!
14:53.27phyberthen I'll try it, but the screenshots look nice :)
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15:03.39KaeltenAwayScaling of Onebag is back in on the svn
15:03.42KaeltenAwaybut I gotta run
15:03.45Mikmayo
15:04.01TainRun Kaelten, run!
15:04.29Mikma:D
15:04.44ag`nice, gotta update it then
15:05.05ag`hey Mikma, dunno if you're still interested in MG but I fixed combo points
15:05.41MikmaMonty: [using a Forrest Gump voice] Momma said they's my magic shoes. Mama said they would take me anywhere. 'Course Mama used to beat me with a rubber hose and call me a retard.
15:05.58Mikmaag`: define fix ;)
15:06.04[Ammo]ag': submit it to the SVN
15:06.11[Ammo]for easier updates ;)
15:06.11Mikmayeah
15:06.25Mikmaemail to cladhaire for account and upload it to /trunk
15:06.29[Ammo]yarr
15:06.40ag`yeah I plan to
15:06.43[Ammo]cool
15:07.19ag`I wish I knew object oriented programming
15:07.46ag`but I don't know what it is, so I don't know if it would be good for an unit frame addon anyway
15:09.07MikmaDean: [Justifying the 'game' to Mitch] If heterosexual men can't show their cocks to each other, then what the hell are we doing here?
15:09.55[Ammo]ag': check out oUF2 in otravi's branch
15:11.34ag`ok
15:12.52GngskWhat's the best way to check what kind of pet you have out currently?
15:13.13TainYay for new uTorrent version.
15:13.38AmadeoGngsk: Just look at it
15:13.40Amadeo;)
15:13.46GngskI mean in script
15:13.51Amadeohaha
15:14.10Gngsksomeone wants to setup a macro that performs different pet actions depending on which pet is currently out
15:14.15Gngskguessing for warlock
15:14.31TainIf you hook DirectX video handling and scan the pixels on the screen you can compare them to a matrix you have stored of existing pet models...
15:14.52cladhaireUnitModel("pet") is really it.
15:14.58cladhaireor GetUnitModel()
15:14.59Wobinheheh if it's a majority of blue... it's a VW, red, a feldog and purple, a succy
15:15.02cladhaireor whatever the hell it is.
15:15.33TainActually pixel scraping is now some minor botting is done today.  Bad bots!  Bad!
15:15.44Wobin~bad bot
15:15.45purlBad bot, bad! No cookie for you!
15:16.02AmadeoThere are tons of bots on Akama
15:16.12AmadeoI don't think Warden works very well!
15:16.29Mikmahmm
15:16.29TainI just realized for the first time yesterday that people are uploading character profiles to thottbot from private servers.
15:16.37TainIt made me laugh.
15:16.38Mikmai should fix bartender but don't have the interest for it
15:16.52TainWelcome to addon authoring, Mikma. ;)
15:16.57Mikmamaybe i'll just hang around and scratch my balls
15:17.04AmadeoTain: Yeah, I also love the "GM Power" videos...of people running private servers..so unimpressive
15:17.11Gngskhmm, not finding anythingn ifor UnitModel on wowwiki
15:17.25MikmaTain: well the problem i have is stupid and i don't knwo how to fix it so i lost my interest on doing it ;)
15:17.43TainAlways remember, if something is really hard then it probably isn't worth doing in the first place.
15:17.48Mikmai really really had a working hide/show function for buttons too but that's kinda wasted now
15:19.40MikmaTain: check out BonusActionBar_OnEvent() in here http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender/104/BarFuncs.lua
15:20.13TainI'm overwhelmed with the desire to buy Pirate Bay merchandise.  http://www.peer99.com/peer99W/swe/shoppen/steg1.asp?hkat=Piratshoppen
15:20.52Mikma"got film?"
15:21.53TainI haven't been following along Mikma, are you having trouble with the BonusActionBar?
15:22.24MikmaTain: nope it's just a fix for the button:Show() we talked some days ago :)
15:22.30TainOh right right!
15:22.49MikmaTain: but, i DO have problems with bartender (that version in the link), since it doesn't work at all and i can't find out why
15:22.52TainNow does that leave blank spaces for empty buttons?
15:23.01Mikmanope it doesn't :D
15:23.18Mikmait checks the space, and if it doesn't have ButtonID it :Hide() them ;)
15:23.25TainI know it skips the show, so it loads buttons next to each other instead of blank?
15:23.39Mikmalocal button = getglobal("BonusActionButton"..i) if ( HasAction(ActionButton_GetPagedID(button)) ) then ..
15:23.46TainLike if you have something on button 1 and 3 does it place 1 and 3 directly next to each other?
15:23.51Mikmano no
15:23.59Mikmathere's a blank space but no background
15:24.02Mikmathat's the whole idea
15:24.21Mikmasince if i used Hide() and Show() it did leave the background and keybind on
15:24.26TainOk, I .. oh never mind, I forgot you're using the default Bliz bars.  
15:24.26Mikmaif the spot was empty :)
15:24.29NeronixMikma: Instead of doing getglobal all the time, why not make a local copy of the environment?
15:24.39MikmaNeronix: how is that done?
15:24.44Neronix"local _G = getfenv(0)"
15:25.01Neronixand then _G["BonusActionButton"..i]
15:25.04TainI was thinking of something else I saw in an addon.
15:25.21MikmaNeronix: thanks will put that up and do it when i start coding again
15:25.25Neronixgetglobal does "getfenv(0)["foo"..bar]
15:25.37NeronixSo you save yourself from having to do that all the time
15:25.38Neronixnp
15:25.59Mikmadoes the name have to be _something like everyone is using?
15:26.00TainThat works well when you're doing a lot of getglobals, just have to make sure you're doing it in places where the environment isn't changing on you during that function.
15:26.36Mikmaanyone wanna help me testing out that Bartender version and telling me why it won't work?
15:26.58Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender/104/
15:27.28Mikmathe thing is, it won't move the buttons to correct frames at login
15:27.36Mikmaor doesn't load the frame positions
15:27.54Mikmabut i can use /script Bartender:SetPlaces() and /script Bartender:RestorePositions() after that
15:28.18MikmaRestorePositions will result an error which is something i don't understand but the function will still work
15:29.05Mikmaoh right, i changed the functions back to Bartender_something() just to test is it up with that one, and it wasn't
15:29.21phyberlocal version = "1.04 piece of crap"
15:29.23phyber\o/
15:29.36Mikmayeah since it won't work it's piece of crap :D
15:29.47AmadeoWhat really takes so long on Tuesday Maintenence?
15:29.51AmadeoAnyone know?
15:30.51TainIt takes a while to kill a whole keg.
15:31.00AmadeoTain: Yeah but they buffed Rogues
15:32.00ag`fromt my point of view they can't cheap shot as often
15:32.21Amadeoag`: Cheap Shot or Kidney Shot?
15:32.30ag`ah, I don't remember
15:32.42TainKidney Shot
15:32.48AmadeoThink it's Kidney...but it depends how much damage the talent increases now
15:32.49TainCheap Shot is from stealth.
15:32.51AmadeoThey may not even need to
15:33.08Tekcubokey vote time... a color embed... named: PaintChips, PaintSwatch, BobRoss, ColorBlind, or Palette?
15:33.37Icerothcolorblind
15:33.42phyberNoneOfTheAbove
15:33.47AmadeoTekcub: Dutch Boy
15:33.49Amadeohahah
15:33.50TekcubI like PaintChips myself
15:33.52Tainehn... not feeling a lot from those.  Palette probably out of any.
15:34.04Tekcubif we're using paintnames it has to be Behr
15:34.09MikmaSmackByBitchUp
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15:36.28MikmaTekcub: palette
15:37.12ag`anyway, looking through the SVN, I must say that you guys are better at coming up with names than the KDE developers
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15:37.39Mikmaag`: you know, you really should abandon MG2 and start out addon with your own
15:38.26ag`well there's almost nothing left that isn't mine :P
15:39.21AmadeoYeah, MG2 totally changed when ag tookover
15:40.17ag`I'm not sure if my code is that beautiful or optimized though
15:40.37AmadeoI really like this guys unit frames, even though they're Discord :(  http://users.bigpond.net.au/kornish68/synchui.jpg
15:41.00AmadeoI wish my fonts looked that good
15:41.32ag`MG could look like that with no trouble
15:41.52Amadeoag`: Oh, I'm sure, I'm just admiring...I probably wouldn't do it up like that though :)
15:41.55AmadeoI need my basic colors
15:42.54Amadeowhat font is he usin though?
15:42.59Amadeojust basic chat and such
15:43.00ag`no idea :)
15:43.10Icerothclearfont addon?
15:43.18Amadeomy clearfont doesn't look that good
15:43.44NeronixHe's probably using the code from clearfont, but with a different font
15:44.07Amadeoyeah
15:44.27AmadeoNeronix: Finish your combat log addon yet?
15:44.32Amadeo;)
15:44.37NeronixI'm not making one :P
15:44.48AmadeoI was trying to volunteer you :(
15:45.03Icerothwhat's wrong with Simple Combat Log?
15:45.18AmadeoNeronix: I think this is for you to handle
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15:47.02NeronixIceroth: It's not so simple anymore
15:47.24NeronixAnd I have no need for a custom combat log, hence I have no interest in writing on
15:47.26Neronix+e
15:48.11AmadeoIceroth: Neronix is just admitting defeat to rophy!
15:48.18NeronixBut expect work to begin on NanoStats2 as soon as FuBar2 comes out, or ckknight haxors FuBar 1.2 to to be a mixin
15:48.27NeronixHe's not defeated me yet :P
15:49.04AmadeoNeronix: I'm riling you up so you make a combat log addon
15:49.06AmadeoShh
15:51.49AmadeoSome Priest tried to gank my 55 Warrior last night
15:51.57AmadeoI was standing outside of Horde's AV entrance, so I guess I was asking for it
15:52.10AmadeoI couldn't fight back because she was too close to the guards
15:52.16AmadeoSo I ran!
15:52.31AmadeoBut she chased me, and pissed me off, so I burned Recklessness and smashed her face in!
15:52.54phyberNurfedCombatLog is quite nice.
15:53.20Amadeophyber: I don't like how you have to uncheck everything in your combat log frame just for it to not display double of everything
15:53.31ag`nurfedcombatlog kills my chat windows
15:53.38Icerothi hate how nurfed utility invades my bars
15:53.59phyberAmadeo: ah.  I display it in a new frame so I never noticed that. :)
15:54.17AmadeoYeah, I wish all the addons didn't need Utility, because that's the biggest addon in the package
15:54.29phybersince I find looking at the regular CombatLog is still useful for some stuff.
15:55.05ag`So is there no Ace guild? >.<
15:55.56phyberMikma: this:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERiNG_WORLD")
15:56.04phyberis registerevent case sensitive?
15:56.51phyber(from the Bartender URL you posted before)
15:57.14Mikmaphyber: yeah i think it is
15:57.22Mikmathat's the way everyone else has it in theyr addon
15:57.29Mikmatheir*
15:58.53Mikmait's really interesting how addon can work and not work at the same time
15:59.44Amadeoag`: Nobody wants Tain! He's a level 1 Dwarf with tons of money!
16:00.00TainLevel 14!
16:00.18TainAnd not as much money these days. Spent too much time levelling my rogue and not playing the AH.
16:00.24Amadeohaha
16:00.47AmadeoWhat do you guys use to make WoW videos? Everyone makes good vids these days
16:01.02MikmaAmadeo: i believa fraps + editor
16:01.14TainI bought Fraps, there's probably cheap/free ones.  But Fraps was always the common choice.
16:01.18Kebinusanyeah pretty much fraps and your favorite editor
16:01.30AmadeoI mean the editor though!
16:01.33AmadeoI use fraps too
16:01.37TainOh editor.
16:01.45Mikmaadobe...
16:01.48Mikmacan't remember the rest
16:01.59Mikmabut i like it _alot_ and have worked with it couple of times
16:02.06AmadeoPremier?
16:02.20TainI used Womble for a long time, got away from it for some reason though.
16:02.26Mikmathat's the one amadeo
16:02.29AmadeoNever heard of Womble
16:02.50MikmaAmadeo: premiere may be abit advanced but it's still propably the best one out there
16:02.58NeronixIs tinytip working for anyone?
16:03.09[Ammo]delete savad vars
16:03.12[Ammo]I had trouble too
16:03.13AmadeoNeronix: No...but it's not TinyTip's fault, the servers are down :P
16:03.15TainI tried Sony Vegas as well, but didn't really spend any time.
16:03.15MikmaNeronix: dunno haven't tried today :)
16:03.29AmadeoHmm
16:03.31Neronix[Ammo]: slash command won't work
16:03.44AmadeoNeronix: /ttip default ?
16:03.45Amadeoor none at all?
16:03.58Mikmaok ok. let's have another look at the Bartender 1.04
16:04.03NeronixDoesn't exist
16:04.11Amadeomaybe it's "defaults"
16:04.12AmadeoI forget
16:04.17NeronixI mean the whole thing
16:04.26Amadeook, haha
16:04.36Neronix/ttip --> "Type /help nubcake! Lots of love, Blizzard"
16:04.38AmadeoTain: I hear a lot of people are using Vegas now
16:05.13NeronixI deleted everything, including SVs, checked out again
16:05.33TainI had heard it was good, Amadeo.  But don't know enough about video editing to know.
16:05.35Kebinusanyeah the guy who makes most of our videos uses Sony Vegas
16:05.58Amadeohm
16:05.58TainMy editing has only consisted of taking a clip and removing bits.  Nothing more.
16:06.12AmadeoWell I have no video editing experience, but I'd like to make something nice...one day...if I get unlazy
16:06.34TainYeah, I have a couple ideas for videos that I think would be awesome. In a fun sort of way.
16:06.52NeronixFireworks in TB right now ^^
16:06.54AmadeoTain: Like winning auctions?
16:07.30TainI'm not sure a video of winning aucitons would have much of a dramatic pull to it. :)
16:07.54TainAlthough...
16:08.15TainIt could make for an episodic content type show.
16:08.17NeronixWith the right director, even THAT could appear exciting
16:08.21TainSpotlight on an auctioneer.
16:08.48Tain"Today we follow Bankmulebob as he tracks a Krol Blade."
16:09.07ag`ok, UnitBuff will only return spells from some kind of filter if you use UnitBuff(unit, id, 1), but is it possible to add a buff to that filter?
16:10.02AmadeoTain: haha
16:10.39ag`Or is it some list that we don't have access to?
16:11.28ag`It just annoys me that I have to keep my own table with all the buffs in it to get around this
16:16.06AmadeoSorry ag, I don't know a thing about coding :P
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16:18.38CIA-703mikma * r3967 10/Bartender/: Bartender Making new folder in tags for beta-code
16:19.09Mikmalol!
16:19.13Mikmait made it in root
16:20.30CIA-703mikma * r3968 10/ (Bartender/ tags/Bartender/): Bartender: moving
16:23.02CIA-703mikma * r3969 10/tags/Bartender/ (BarFuncs.lua BarLayout.lua Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: Comitting the nonworking beta into Tags
16:23.10Mikmathere
16:26.40ag`Bartender is yours Mikma? What does it do?
16:34.02Amadeoag`: I have a silly request for a frame in MG2 :P
16:34.12ag`sure
16:34.27AmadeoThe ToT frame is like a pixel less wide than the target frame, so when I put it above it, I can't ever line it up right!
16:34.30Amadeo:)
16:34.35Amadeowell, by wide I mean long
16:35.38ag`that's pretty damn strange, as width is set by the theme
16:35.59AmadeoI'll show you what I mean
16:37.08AmadeoI made rank 6 :D
16:37.25AmadeohyperChipmunk: It seems the Warrior PvP set stats I was looking at were the old ones, they are much better now
16:37.39hyperChipmunkgood deal
16:38.31Amadeoag`: Now it's lining up, I'm starting to think I'm blind
16:39.04Amadeono wait
16:39.07Amadeoat scale 1.2 it stops lining up
16:39.52ag`I bet it's a scale problem and that every other addon is affected in the same way
16:40.12Amadeoag`: A Blizzard issue?
16:40.19Mikmaag`: it's ActionBar addon, allows you to move the bars like CardBars but is really simple and low on memory
16:40.47ag`Ok, I should check it out
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16:41.33Amadeoag`: Yeah, it looks like everything above 1.2 on the indepenent scale makes it a little off
16:42.16ag`Mikma: Can it show cooldown in numbers and range? :)
16:42.32ag`or is there another addon for that
16:42.51Amadeoag`: I think Bartender uses the standard Blizzard bars, but just removes the crap and allows you to move them, iirc :)
16:42.56Mikmaag`: sure if you add another addon to show the,
16:43.01AmadeoI might start using it, actually
16:43.16ag`Yeah, I am looking to replace my discord action bars
16:43.39AmadeoDiscord stuff is good, but it's just so big
16:43.45Mikmawell the newest version which is not working would rock the world ;)
16:44.00Mikmait has some frames as "hide when righclick" on them
16:44.13Mikmaand it has smart grid on _all_ buttons
16:44.22Mikma1.03x don't have that feature
16:44.23MoonWolfwhat does that mean ?
16:44.27AmadeoWhat's smart grid?
16:44.29Amadeohehe
16:44.38MoonWolfwhy do i want it on my buttons ?
16:45.00Mikmasimple, when you open spellbook you'll get a grid to show empty spots.
16:45.13Mikmablizzard doesn't provide the code to show the grid for ActionButton1-12
16:45.21Mikmamy code does that
16:45.40Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender/104/BarFuncs.lua
16:45.56Mikmathat can be used with almost any addon which modifies blizzard buttons
16:46.03hyperChipmunkTekcub: you around?
16:46.22Mikmabut you should comment out the bonusactionbar_onevent since usually addons can handle that
16:46.37Mikmaoh yheah
16:46.48Mikmait also has the code to hide keyringbutton
16:46.59Mikmamuch smarter than the previous piece of code i had
16:47.55Mikmaoh yeah that BarFuncs.lua also works with CardBars by removing the stupid border in the buttons
16:51.15AmadeoMikma: Can you move all six bars that Blizzard allows?
16:51.41MikmaAmadeo: the sixth = bonusbar = will be swapped with Bar1
16:51.54Amadeowhat happens when you swap stances and such?
16:51.56MoonWolfhttp://www.thejapanesearecrazy.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=139&Itemid=29 <- pwnzzz
16:52.06MikmaAmadeo: bar1 will change to correct buttons
16:52.10Amadeocool
16:52.11Mikmajust like blizzards ui does
16:52.40ag`How much KiB/s do you have in a raid in combat using all your addons, etc
16:53.06Mikmaag`: I dunno since I don't raid anymore
16:53.28Mikmabut with the 74 addons i have i got something like 16-19mb
16:53.38ag`Just wondering because I am trying to figure out if I have addons that's using too much :)
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17:00.59Amadeoag`: Do you use Warmup?
17:01.20ag`yeah, Warmup doesn't show running usage though, I use FuPerformance for that
17:01.32Amadeoyeah
17:03.01AmadeoWell certain things you know are using a lot, like Discord*
17:03.02Amadeo:)
17:03.14ag`yeah
17:03.17ag`I want to replace that
17:04.21AmadeoI've been using Bongos for bars
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17:06.02ag`I just need an aced mod that adds cooldown and range coloring to the buttons
17:06.30TainHave you used RedRange?  
17:06.42TainIt isn't Aced but doesn't need to be, it's very simple.
17:06.50Mikmaredrange works with bartender ;)
17:06.52Grumpeynot aced but what about !omnicc'd
17:07.00ag`Thanks, I'll check it out
17:07.04ag`How about cooldown?
17:07.05[Ammo]redrange is perfect
17:07.12AmadeoIsn't range coloring built into the interface now?
17:07.37Amadeoas of 1.11
17:07.40Mikmaag`: haven't checked but as fast as i know every addon that mods blizzard buttons will work with bartender
17:07.40[Ammo]only the numbers
17:07.43[Ammo]not the whole button
17:07.46MikmaAmadeo: no, only keybinds
17:07.52AmadeoReally? I could have sworn they added it
17:07.55Amadeooh well
17:08.06Mikmai thought so too but was wrong
17:08.10Grumpeyhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4836
17:08.14GrumpeyOmniCC
17:09.00ag`thanks
17:09.21ag`Guess I'll try those two with your Bartender Mikma
17:10.09Mikmaag`: yeah i myself use redrange
17:10.24Mikmaalso every now and then i got theorycraft loaded too (text on buttons)
17:10.34ag`theorycraft is nice
17:10.49[Ammo]theorycraft is kinda useless imho
17:10.52[Ammo]one time use only
17:10.52[Ammo]etc
17:10.55ag`if it's that simple (redrange), why not add it to Bartender? (Or is that a bad idea..)
17:11.11ag`I liked it for my priest
17:11.21[Ammo]it's kinda bloaty too
17:11.22TainDifferences in philosphy in a way.  I prefer separate addons for separate purposes, personally.
17:11.29TainI don't like all-in-one solutions.  
17:11.31Mikmaag`: i thought of that but then i realized it's useless since it works fine together :)
17:11.53Mikmaand iriel's code is usually pretty nice
17:12.14ag`you could've borrowed it :P
17:12.25Mikmayeah i know but i wan't him to get credit of it
17:12.30Mikmahim/her
17:13.03Gngskcan any warlocks here tell me what the index is of the felhunter's spell lock?
17:13.11Gngsk6 or 7?
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17:16.31[Ammo]ctrl-6 is spelllock
17:20.11Gngskthx
17:21.18AmadeoI'd say that you should only add a feature to your basic addon if you can do it better than another
17:27.47AmadeoIf RedRange is as good as it gets, then just use that...but if someone can make it even smaller..why not? :)
17:28.42ag`If it's a small addon I see no reason not to include it in a bigger action bar addon :)
17:30.33TainBecause not everyone wants it.
17:30.54TainSo why add code that's going to sit there taking up space.
17:31.43TainOf course judging by the popularity of compilations and all-in-one packages my view is probably in the minority.
17:31.59TainBut I like modular better than all-encompasing.
17:32.09Mikma*yawn*
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17:34.04ag`I can see where you're coming from Tain and I hate those packages too
17:34.28cladhairei hate em all
17:34.29cladhairegrr
17:34.55Mikmacladhaire: help me to fix my addon :)
17:35.01Iceroth:)
17:35.14Mikmai don't see the reason why it won't work at all lol
17:35.54cladhaire?
17:36.29Mikmacladhaire: yeah bartender doesn't work anymore, it stopped working and haven't worked eversince
17:36.32Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/root/tags/Bartender/
17:38.03Gngskclad, fyi the pet thing I was asking about, if you cared UnitCreatureFamily("pet") worked
17:38.13cladhaireGngsk: cool =)
17:39.38MoonWolfhttp://www.thejapanesearecrazy.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=108&Itemid=29 <- what is wrong with japanese people ?
17:40.01Icerothi fail to grasp the idea behind ModuleCore.. what can i really use it for?
17:42.26MikmaBartender.lua:228: attempt to index local 'arg1' (a nil value) ... 228 is empty line after SavePosition and before LoadPosition
17:43.05Mikmait loads the startmessage but doesn't load anything else after that
17:43.37Mikmaoh, the only thing my addon does load at startup is: UIPARENT_MANAGED_FRAME_POSITIONS["MultiBarBottomLeft"] = {baseY = 5, anchorTo = Bar2, point = "BOTTOMLEFT", rpoint = "BOTTOMLEFT", xOffset = 5};
17:44.01Mikmaain't that coooool?
17:46.42AmadeoI really hate Shaman in 1.11, they're stupid overpowered in PvP
17:47.01CIA-703cladhaire * r3970 10Clique/ (Clique.lua CliqueUtils.lua):
17:47.01CIA-7Clique:
17:47.01CIA-7* Added Clique:CastSpell(spell, unit) which handles targeting
17:47.01CIA-7* Clique:BestRank() and the default casts now use :CastSpell()
17:52.02AmadeoWhat's the proc chance on Windfury? 98%?
17:55.16Mikmadum di dum
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17:57.53AmadeoI'm serious :P
17:58.34Icerothermh... how is it possible to have function MyClass.protype:SomeMethod() and then have assert(self, "I'm nil") fire?
17:59.00Icerothhow is it even possible to call instance method without the instance?
18:02.05Galka_TinyTipUtil.lua:15: attempt to concatenate local `msg' (a nil value)
18:02.06Galka_<PROTECTED>
18:02.24ThraeWho, what, where?
18:03.28phyberckknight: where is the function 'argCheck' defined?  Deformat-2.0 is having issues.
18:03.43phyber[19:01-964] ...terface\Fizzle2\Deformat-2.0\Deformat-2.0.lua:317: attempt to call global `argCheck' (a nil value)
18:04.13MikmaBartender.lua:208: attempt to index local 'frame2show' (a nil value)
18:04.47Mikmawtf it's not even supposed to execute that function
18:07.10ag`cladhaire: you there?
18:16.22Mikmammkay
18:17.02Mikmai really really don't feel like coding this addon again from ground to up
18:17.31Mikmaid should redo his actionbars so i can delete this crap and forget it
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18:26.07IndustrialI have my own
18:26.08Industrial:P
18:26.13Industrialoh, redo MINE
18:26.15Industrialuh, no
18:26.16Industrial:p
18:26.19Industrialwhy?
18:26.30Industrialworks fine with me :X
18:27.03MikmaIndustrial: shapeshift doesn't work
18:27.41IndustrialMikma: It does exactly what the forum thread describes
18:30.26IndustrialGuess I could redo it just for fun :P
18:30.49Icerothwhy is pastebin so slow :/
18:30.57IndustrialAnd make it all shiny with like 12 bars and options and dragging and shapeshifting and shit
18:31.13IndustrialThe problem is time and will :P
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18:31.16Icerothbongos *cough*
18:31.25Industrialyeah, we have bongos for that
18:31.37phyberMikma: I like Bartender, what's wrong with it?  the version I'm using seems ok.
18:31.44phyberexcept the shapeshiftbar can go offlimits.
18:31.51Mikmaoh yeah
18:31.55Mikmai forgot that one
18:32.59CIA-703mikma * r3971 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: Shapeshift now stays on screen
18:33.08Mikmaphyber: well i got new better code for it but it's not working
18:33.52Industrialwhy is there BlizzardUI in tags
18:33.55phyberah
18:33.59Industrialim checking out the whole thing
18:34.00IndustrialoO
18:34.17Industrialsince 1.3
18:34.21Mikmabut, the new code ain't the one that bugs
18:34.28Mikmait's something completely different
18:34.50MikmaIndustrial: i bet it's just the code they use for the addons
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18:37.16IndustrialMikma: well its every file of every version
18:37.19Industrial:P
18:38.04Icerothok, help me out here, what's wrong with this (assert fails): http://ace.pastebin.com/740151
18:39.06IndustrialIceroth: 404?
18:39.21IcerothO.o
18:39.48Mikmapage doesn't load
18:40.01Industrial:)
18:40.04Industrialpastebin.ca
18:40.09Mikmahttp://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/
18:41.00Icerothhttp://pastebin.ca/78941
18:42.57IndustrialMikma: :po
18:43.04SlaymanThrae, u received my qry ?
18:43.52Slaymanwhose originating oRA unit frames? haste?
18:47.01CIA-703mikma * r3972 10/tags/Bartender/Bartender.lua:
18:47.53Icerothany ideas about that lost self?
18:53.20IndustrialIceroth: nop, youd have to ask kergoth/ckknight
18:53.33Icerothkk
18:54.48IndustrialMikma: you are not using 'self[something] = name' or 'setglobal('somename', name)' in Bartender:CC()
18:55.02IndustrialMikma: so the other part ant get to that frame
18:55.07IndustrialMikma: so its a nil value
18:55.32SlaymanFirst Semifinal Germany vs. Italy is now going to start. Fasten Your Seatbelt As It Will Be One Hell Of A  Game!
18:56.50IndustrialDF()*
18:56.53IndustrialCF**
19:00.38IndustrialSlayman: Half Life 1:Team Fortress Classic
19:00.40Industrialthere you go
19:00.43Industrialyou
19:00.45Industrialme
19:00.47Industrialmano a mano
19:00.48Industrial:P
19:01.37Slayman1.) HL is not installed 2.) I don't possess a legal copy of HL 3.) I can't play TFC as i have no skills in it
19:01.48Industrial:(
19:01.57Industrialso you dont have a steam account?
19:02.29Slaymanof course not
19:02.41Slaymani will never ever possess one
19:02.43Industrialbah :(
19:03.03Slaymanas steam is one the things i hate most
19:03.12IndustrialI never had problems with it
19:03.13IndustrialEVER
19:03.18Industrialever ever
19:03.19Industrial:P
19:03.32Industrialbeen usig it since launch (ofcource)
19:03.42Mikmatry Wolfenstein Eney Territory CTF
19:03.46MikmaEnemy*
19:03.46SlaymanLucky me hating something doesn't really requires reason
19:03.47Mikmait's free
19:03.58IndustrialMikma: yeah but its based on quake so the bunnyhopping sucks
19:03.59Industrial:P
19:04.20Mikmashit happens then you die :D
19:04.26SlaymanI'm more a fan of DoD on LANs with friends
19:04.29Industriali can not not bunnyhop
19:04.29Industrial:P
19:04.36Elkanohmm... why did TFC come up as topic?
19:04.46Mikmaforget about it!
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19:05.53Slaymanthe reason was football (yes it is not SOCCER suckers)
19:06.07Elkanooh, so no game between devs? :( ;)
19:06.54Slaymanwell i would invite you all to nice round of Soldier (Soldat) free of charge and very entertaining
19:07.15ElkanoI suck at that game ^^
19:07.21Slaymanso do i
19:07.27Slaymanbut its fun anyways
19:08.33Elkano1.3.0? 1.3.1?
19:09.23Slayman1.3.1 afaik
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19:12.18*** topic/#wowace is wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT | Ace 2.0.3768 Beta Release [07/01/06] |PLEASE HELP. I'VE FALLEN OFF THE INTERNETS AND I CAN'T GET UP!
19:13.53kergothwoot, http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2839 looks promising
19:13.55kergothpurl, wb
19:13.56purlIt's great to be back!
19:13.58kergoth~mornings
19:13.59purlMornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/)
19:15.44Industrialkergoth: "Oh well, was fun to make it, but don't think I'll keep updating this one."
19:16.11Industrialhttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2126
19:16.12Industrial:
19:16.13Icerothah, kergoth, i heard you might know something about this: why does the assert fire here: http://pastebin.ca/78941 ?
19:16.13Industrial:X
19:17.33kergothIceroth, because you're using aceevent incorrectly.
19:17.52Icerothwhat's the correct way?
19:18.03kergothIceroth, you want self:RegisterEvent("TestTrigger_Event", "EventHandler")
19:18.16kergothif you pass a function object, itll call it as is, with no arguments, not passing self.  afaik.
19:18.27kergothcould be wrong, i'm rusty with aceevent, but pretty sure thats how it works
19:18.45kergothcould also do self:RegisterEvent("TestTrigger_Event") and just define a TestTrigger_Event method
19:18.56Icerothhmh.. but it's specifically that instance that i want to handle the event
19:18.57kergothor self:RegisterEvent("TestTrigger_Event", function() self:EventHandler() end)
19:19.03kergothyes, and?
19:20.55kergoth"No, they never did turn me into a toad."  "Oh.  Well that was our mistake then."
19:20.58kergothi love this movie
19:25.13Icerothah, working now, thank you
19:36.05SlaymanThrae come 'ere !!!!!
19:36.12CIA-703kyahx * r3973 10oRA_Menu/Core.lua:
19:36.12CIA-7oRA Menu : 0.3b
19:36.12CIA-7<PROTECTED>
19:37.47Industrialdmmit, why are japanese chicks so cute http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=533398683545758639
19:37.57Kyahxmagic?
19:38.19Industrial*shrug*
19:38.25Kyahxand that link doesnt work
19:38.34Slaymanit's a question of taste
19:38.45Slaymanlink is wrong
19:39.13Industrialhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5333986835457586393&q=morning+musume
19:39.22Industrial::P
19:39.34Kyahxah
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19:46.24Kaeltenhappy 4th for our us people
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19:50.14Mikmazomg id4!
19:50.51Kaeltenckknight: looks like you got the bugs sorted out
19:54.43Mikmahttp://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5871/242/1600/sharapovacameltoe.jpg <- bad boys pasted this one
19:55.56CIA-703kaelten * r3974 10OneBag/OneBag.toc: OneBag - Fixed typo in Toc file.
19:57.18CIA-703handdol * r3975 10BabbleLib/Spell/BabbleLib-Spell.lua: Korean localization add
19:58.55Amadeois there any way to get into the admin account in Windows if you don't have the password?
20:00.51mjcyeah
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20:00.57mjcboot off a CD
20:02.10CIA-703mikma * r3976 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: forgot to change the next 1.033 version for files
20:03.35CIA-703mikma * r3977 10/tags/Bartender/: This is a wrong place
20:15.41AmadeoKaelten: I was wondering why it wasn't working :)
20:15.54Mikmazomg there it is! someone has requested a moving unitframes for Bartender
20:16.07Mikmai have to say "hell no" for myself
20:16.40kergoththe chatr buddy list rocks
20:18.31Mikmahey everyone! kergoth fixed Bartender. Therefore I LOVE him!
20:19.03Mikmakergoth: i really didn't see any idea with the buddylist
20:19.13Mikmait shows you buddies online. whopee?
20:20.33kergothits just convenient
20:20.48Mikmalol i just realized i have forgotten to update the Bartender file in wowi
20:20.53ThraeWhat's a good BG assistance mod that's not horribly bloated?
20:20.58Mikmai updated the info and stuff but not the new file
20:24.21Mikmathere's also coming up the 1.04 version which kergoth fixed but it might not be suitable for all since it lacks almost all "features" 1.033 has in
20:24.30phyberkergoth: don't suppose you could fix Deformat-2.0 while you're fixing things?  I think ckknight_ forgot to write the argCheck function. :p
20:24.37Mikmaie. no moving minimap, no actionbar1 hiding..
20:24.55phyberalthough, if it's the same as the argCheck I see in some other mods, I could just copy paste it.
20:25.07Mikmaonly thing that is there is 5x better code and righclick on bags and micros
20:25.36phyberright click for what?
20:26.53Mikmahide
20:27.07Mikmahide/show sorry
20:27.08kergoththe right click to hide thing rocks.  so easy
20:27.19Gngskoh, I want
20:27.21kergothi was about to request the ability to hide the pet bar, too
20:27.22kergothhehe
20:27.52Mikmakergoth: well i'm planning on adding all that now in when you got it working
20:28.41Mikmaand, since the move and lock feature you did seem to be super-easy i think it's going to be nice afterall
20:38.18Mikmacan i load an external .lua file with some command in lua?
20:39.43Thrae|WoWOnly WoW can do that, but that'd be cool if you could.
20:40.05Mikmayeah :P
20:40.24Mikmai would wan't to load my layout from another file if database is not found
20:40.32Mikmabut oh well...
20:41.23Thrae|WoWWell if you make it a global, load the files sequentially, and encompass the entire file in an IF statement
20:41.56Mikmathat's what i had in mind
20:42.22Thrae|WoWThen the file will get loaded only to get parsed, but then thrown away since it'll never get used.
20:42.45IndustrialMikma: im gunna run this mofo through all of darkshore
20:42.50Industrialand then maybe all of westfall too
20:42.52Industrialhuah!
20:42.55Industrialtonight!
20:43.04MikmaIndustrial: i'd like to see that :)
20:44.06Mikmahmm, Bartender 1.04 without extracrap is now 60KiB
20:46.33CIA-703mikma * r3979 10/branches/Bartender/: Development version
20:47.21CIA-703phyber * r3980 10Deformat/Deformat-2.0/Deformat-2.0.lua:
20:47.21CIA-7Deformat:
20:47.22CIA-7- Fixed Deformat-2.0. argCheck -> self:argCheck
20:47.48phyberFizzle2 works now :)
20:50.07Amadeofo'rizzle?
20:50.33phyberword.
20:50.51Mikmaoh great "is already working in another url"
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20:54.10IndustrialDeformat?
20:54.28Mikmahow can i clear the entity in commandline?
20:55.02IndustrialMikma: #wowi-lounge
20:55.17MikmaIndustrial: what's in there?
20:55.52phyberIndustrial: for cool stuff like...
20:55.52phyberlocal deformat = AceLibrary("Deformat-2.0")
20:55.53phyberlocal alpha, bravo = deformat("Durability: 40 / 50", "Durability: %d / %d")
20:55.53phyber-- alpha, bravo is now 40, 50.
20:56.18phyberI use it since it's used by Gratuity.
20:56.20phyberif hasItem then v1, v2 = self.gratuity:FindDeformat(DURABILITY_TEMPLATE) end
20:58.36kergothi want a bumper sticker that says "I'd rather be grinding."
20:59.22CIA-703mikma * r3981 10/branches/Bartender/ (BarFuncs.lua BarLayout.lua Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: 1.04 devel version
21:00.47Kaeltenkergoth: lmao
21:01.07Industrialhehe
21:01.08IndustrialCan druid dual wield?
21:01.13Mikmano
21:01.13Galka_no
21:01.14steinono
21:01.17Industrial:(
21:01.21phyberso, did Blizzard's zoning fix mean I can remove PLAYER_wibble_WORLD stuff from my addons, or is it better to keep it in?
21:01.23steinoonly warr, rogue and hunters
21:01.24steino:)
21:01.28Industrialbooo :P
21:01.38phyberi think someone said they only fixed it for their stuff last time I checked.
21:02.08Mikmawell i kept using Catalyst and have faster loadings than with blizz code
21:02.13steinosame
21:02.19phyberok.
21:02.30phyberI'll leave that stuff in then :)
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21:03.00MoonWolfSwords in hand at the bloody fields of history
21:03.02MoonWolfWe rend our blades through dogma and humility
21:03.04MoonWolfCarve the future according to our will
21:03.06MoonWolfSet worlds ablaze with our seething fire
21:03.08MoonWolfLet you all acknowledge that we are here
21:03.10MoonWolfAs masters to rule this failing humanity
21:03.12MoonWolfOur beings formed in rage and defiance
21:03.14MoonWolfWith strength to trample the weak and the foolish
21:03.18MoonWolfAnd so we march with burning brands
21:03.20MoonWolfTemples of flame on our path to glory
21:03.32MoonWolfcradle of filth for the win.
21:03.47Mikma*** Signoff: Moonwolf (foo@bar) Reason: (Excess flood)
21:03.59MoonWolfnot really
21:04.05Galka_Mikma, SVN versionm works?
21:04.20kergoththe chatr guy should make it so right clicking on a player in the buddy list pulls up the menu that right clicking on a player link opens
21:04.33MikmaGalka_: both of them, in /trunk is 1.033 with all extragoodies and in /branches is simple version of 1.04
21:04.44Galka_Define simple version my good man?
21:04.52Galka_no questwatch, no minimap?
21:04.59Mikmadoes not have mocing minimap / hide bar1
21:05.17Mikmaquestwatch is there to stay since the default is not movable at all
21:05.35KaeltenI'm doing evil code condensing :)
21:05.42Galka_boo
21:05.44Galka_ok
21:05.47Mikmaand people don't have to use it if they don't like the default, there's always MonkeyQuest etc
21:06.03Galka_Your minimap code works with Squeenix now?
21:06.24Mikmathere's no code for minimap in 1.04
21:06.46IndustrialMikma: l12
21:07.05Mikmal12?
21:07.35Industriallevel 12
21:07.51Mikmaoh right, only 21 to catch
21:08.02Galka_1.033 has hide bar 1 and a movable minimap for squeenix users?
21:08.07CIA-703phyber * r3982 10Fizzle2/ (. Core.lua Fizzle2.toc):
21:08.07CIA-7Fizzle2:
21:08.07CIA-7- Initial Import
21:08.21MikmaGalka_: yeah something like that :)
21:12.11haste_I need to reroll irssi again
21:12.29Mikmasome people love the minimap feature of bartender and some people hate it
21:12.30steinoyes
21:12.31steinoyou do
21:12.32MoonWolflol
21:12.44haste_I don't see my highlighst anymore
21:13.27Mikmahaste_: /set hilight_nick_matches ON
21:14.39phyber/hilight haste
21:14.41phyberwill also help
21:15.38haste_Mikma, I miss irssi however
21:15.57Mikmahaste_: oh you don't even use it :P
21:16.07CIA-703phyber * r3983 10Fizzle2/:
21:16.07CIA-7Fizzle2:
21:16.07CIA-7- Set externals
21:17.14ag`I need cladhaire :(
21:17.42Mikmaag`: try kergoth, he's a god too
21:17.56ag`Can he like, add me to the SVN?
21:18.07haste_ag`, you have to mail him
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21:18.47Mikmaclad won't add nobody without email
21:23.51Wobincladhaire@gmail.com
21:24.24ag`aha
21:28.07Kaeltenhackish ftw!
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21:30.05kergothIndustrial, gar, idautoattack engaged my autoattack when i sapped a guy, breaking the sap :P
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21:31.31Industrialkergoth: told you so
21:31.31Industrial:P
21:31.42Industrialkergoth: I should svn it and recode it
21:32.16ag`man, I wish I had the coding skills of some of the aces here
21:32.19ckknight_happy America day, everyone
21:32.24ag`I would make some good code
21:32.30*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
21:33.05Industrialckknight: :)
21:33.09KaeltenI have no coding skillz
21:33.25ckknightKaelten, hrm?
21:33.32IndustrialI make errors and repeatedly try to fix them
21:33.37Industrialand then it works and its done
21:33.38Industrial:P
21:33.40Kaeltenwas responding to ag` comment :)
21:33.56Kaeltenya Industrial is right, errors I know
21:34.00ag`:P
21:34.00ckknightag`, I have coding skills
21:34.24Kaeltenna he just copies other peoples work
21:34.35Kaeltenand has a trained monkey
21:34.37ag`I am just too sloppy
21:34.42Kaeltenthose trained code monkys are awesome
21:34.53ckknightum
21:34.56Industrialckknight: i want 2
21:34.56ckknightdo you mean Indians?
21:34.58ag`I try to make it work fast rather than it being pretty
21:35.02ag`or efficient
21:35.15Kaeltenckknight: hrm
21:35.20ckknightfast = efficient?
21:35.30Kaeltenag`: I get it working then I go back in and clean it up
21:35.40Kaeltensometimes I go and rewrite something 3 times
21:35.44ag`Well
21:35.49KaeltenKC_Items has been rewritten about 5 or 6 times sof ar
21:35.56ag`I just go on to the next thing I want to do :p
21:35.57Kaeltenand is about to be again coming up soon
21:36.15Kaeltenckknight:  its a scary concept isn't it?
21:36.20ckknightyea
21:36.33ckknightI'll be doing it in a very OO fashion, though
21:36.38Kaeltenyou've mode it pretty modular but its still not going to be a 100% smooth transistion
21:36.40ckknightwith AceOO
21:36.49Kaeltenwill it support Fubar 1.x plugins?
21:36.52Icerothagain aceoo2 question: how do i access parent from child class (instance method)?
21:36.56ckknightI don't know
21:37.09KaeltenIceroth: one thats been overriden?
21:37.13Icerothyea
21:37.19ckknightIceroth, by calling its name
21:37.26Kaeltenself.super.<functionname(self)
21:37.38Kaeltenor rather
21:37.38ckknightself.super is only for sealed instances
21:37.51Kaeltenhrm?
21:37.52ckknightsuch as AceAddon and such
21:38.29ckknightotherwise call the class directly
21:38.32ckknighte.g.
21:38.35ckknightAlpha = Class()
21:38.40ckknightBravo = Class(Alpha)
21:38.44Kaeltenoh ck, how bad was the fixes for the bugs last night?
21:38.53ckknightfixes?
21:39.06Kaelten?
21:39.09ckknightfunction Bravo.prototype:Method()
21:39.21ckknightBravo.super.prototype.Method(self)
21:39.23ckknightend
21:39.35ckknightKaelten, I don't know what you're talking about
21:39.57Kaeltenlast night when I went to bed we were working on some of those weird upgrade bugs
21:40.09ckknightoh
21:40.12ckknightum
21:40.16ckknightI read a book instead
21:40.20Kaeltenlol
21:40.32ckknightMyths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity
21:40.34ckknightgood book
21:40.42Kaeltenwell the upgrading seems to be working for now at least and standby is now working right
21:40.59ckknightoh
21:40.59ckknightyea
21:41.02ckknightI fixed all that
21:41.08ckknightbut that was before you left
21:41.09ckknightI thought
21:41.12Kaeltenah
21:41.18KaeltenI thought there was a small continuation
21:41.25ckknightwhat upgrade bugs were there?
21:41.29Kaeltenbut that seems to have gone away when updating from the newer to the newest
21:41.31ckknightoh, the fucked up ADDON_LOADED before activate
21:41.39Kaeltenya that was a upgrade bug
21:41.47ckknightwas it fixed or not yet?
21:42.03Kaeltenwell I updated the first loading copy and then it went away
21:42.16Kaeltenand then I updated the last loading copy tonight and no errors
21:42.26Kaeltenso I'm not sure if it was fixed but just needs to get weeded out or what
21:42.43Kaeltenit was giving more of the libs not being present errors
21:42.52ckknighthrm
21:44.45Kaeltenwas the external function present in RC2?
21:44.50Kaeltenerr RC1?
21:45.05Kaeltenor was that something you added in right after?
21:45.06ckknightno
21:45.10ckknightright after
21:45.13Kaeltenkk
21:45.21Kaeltengood then that bug never made it in a main release
21:45.29ckknightgrr, can't svn up
21:45.38Kaelten?
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21:47.10ckknightit's just...stalled
21:47.27cladhairei.e. the server is locked at the moment.
21:48.05cladhairethey
21:48.19cladhairethey've been actively lookgin at the outage for 3 minutes, since it was first reported
21:48.26ckknightoky
21:48.34ckknightat least it's not my connection
21:49.50cladhairei was in the midst of working on the SVN::Web installation
21:49.54cladhairesince i had a few moments.
21:50.48MoonWolfsome day's
21:51.28Iceroththanks again, got the parent thing working.. syntax ain't the most intuitive but at least it works :)
21:52.58ckknightit's not parent, btw, it's superclass
21:53.35Icerothhmm? what's the diffecent?
21:53.41MoonWolfoperator, Iceroth here needs an OO lesson.
21:54.51MoonWolfand i need a bed
21:54.52MoonWolfnight
21:54.57ckknightum
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21:55.09ckknightI haven't paid the dues to get the schoolhouse rock people to sing
21:56.08Icerothi've been under impression superclass means same as parent
21:57.13Icerothhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is-a#Examples -> "We therefore define Mammal as a subclass of Animal (we then say that Animal is Mammal's superclass or parent class)"
21:57.24ckknightyea
21:57.29ckknightsuperclass is more correct
21:57.45ckknightbut they're sometimes used in the same context
21:58.25kergothi dont likek the use of parent/child.  imho it implies a different relationship.
21:58.35kergothparenting could be completely independent from the class hierarchy
21:58.53kergoth(which it is, for example, in Qt.  parenting is used to manage lifetime of QObject's)
22:02.51*** part/#wowace ag`_ (n=andreasg@0x57317a46.bynxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
22:03.39Industrialkergoth: you there?
22:10.48Industrialkergoth: nm
22:13.13ckknightsvn's fixed
22:16.06ckknightKaelten, there?
22:18.18Kaeltenwhats up?
22:18.37Kaeltenckknight: yep I'm here
22:18.55ckknightHow did you get the errors before?
22:18.58ckknightI want to recreate
22:19.48KaeltenI had an old pre external copy loading first
22:20.05Kaeltenand then I had a current copy loading last
22:20.10Kaeltenpre-external fix copy that is
22:20.27*** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@c-24-130-132-88.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
22:21.04ckknightokay
22:21.04ckknightalright
22:21.10ckknightso it should be fixed now?
22:21.24ckknightI'm gonna do more testing anyway :-P
22:22.22*** join/#wowace Kaelten_ (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183)
22:22.41ckknightconnection issues?
22:22.44Kaelten_crashed again
22:23.08Kaelten_no comp froze
22:23.54*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ
22:24.01Kaeltenthere we go
22:24.06ckknightokay
22:24.10ckknightI'm gonna do more testing
22:24.25ckknightand I'm in the process of updating Glory-2.0 to use AceEvent-2.0
22:24.51Kaeltennoooooooooo
22:24.57Kaeltenit looks like my file got corrupted
22:24.59Kaeltenshit!
22:25.09Shyvadispel them!
22:27.18Kaeltendamnit I just lost a few hours worth of work
22:35.05haste_I have a SVN server on my server after that happened :p
22:35.05ckknight~comfort Kaelten
22:35.14purlThere, there, Kaelten.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
22:35.14Cairennugh, that sucks Kael
22:35.14ckknightpurl sucks
22:35.16purlFor $5 I'll do more than that!
22:35.16KaeltenI had actually gotten quite a few solid optimizations in
22:35.16Kaeltendamnit
22:35.16Kaeltennow I'm going to be pissy for a while
22:35.16Kaeltendamnit
22:35.16ckknightum
22:35.17ckknightcookie?
22:35.17Kaeltenbah, the changes in one file survived but the other file got trashed
22:35.17CairennKaelten, sweetie! Welcome to the club!
22:35.17Cairenn<== Queen of pissy :p
22:35.17Kaeltenheh
22:35.17ckknightno rebuttals here
22:35.17Cairenn:p
22:35.17ckknightKael, it is in these dark hours that we must hold true to our values and respect those who have wronged you
22:35.17ckknightfor only in doing so can they learn the error of their ways and the general welfare will increase
22:35.18CIA-703handdol * r3984 10/trunk/ (22 files in 5 dirs):
22:35.18CIA-7BigWigs
22:35.18CIA-7<PROTECTED>
22:35.18CIA-7<PROTECTED>
22:35.18CIA-7<PROTECTED>
22:35.27Wobin...
22:35.28ckknightgood timing, purl
22:35.29Wobinso slow =P
22:35.37ckknight~emulate ckknight
22:35.38purlACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:35.50ckknight~beer
22:35.52purlACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer))
22:35.52hyperChipmunkpurl right on the ball
22:37.52ckknightI am contemplating whether to provide support for FuBar1.x plugins...
22:43.16WobinI'd say do so
22:44.15CIA-703handdol * r3985 10BigWigs/BWL/ (6 files):
22:44.15CIA-7BigWigs
22:44.16CIA-7<PROTECTED>
22:49.21ckknightyea...
22:49.25ckknightI guess
22:49.42ckknightthe FuBar2 plugins'd have preferential treatment for some things
22:53.01hyperChipmunkO_
22:56.04ckknight?
22:56.14hyperChipmunkmouse focus
22:56.31hyperChipmunkwas typing into the wrong window
22:59.27FryGuy-nooo
22:59.37FryGuy-someone else did a patchwerk module after I spent so much time on it :(
23:00.41ckknighttime for ckknight's handy Ace2 tips and tricks:
23:00.50ckknighttoday's lesson: optional chat commands in libraries
23:01.09hyperChipmunkoptional?
23:01.14hyperChipmunkarent' all chat commands optional?
23:01.31ckknightusing AceConsole.
23:01.33hyperChipmunkaliases would be nice though; can Ace2 do that?
23:01.51ckknightlibraries that give off info, e.g. TouristLib or GloryLib, could handily support chat commands
23:02.09ckknightso that /glory bg could list your current scores
23:02.10ckknightor whatnot
23:02.36ckknightto accomplish this, we set up our external function that checks for AceConsole-2.0, and if so, register a chat command
23:02.42ckknightall very easily
23:03.10ckknightlocal function external(self, major, instance) if major == "AceConsole-2.0" then instance.RegisterChatCommand(self, { ... }) end end
23:04.41ckknightthis has been ckknight's handy Ace2 tips and tricks
23:05.24hyperChipmunkdo you take requests?
23:05.32ckknightoh yea
23:05.37ckknightI should actually wikify this
23:06.01ckknightstill, it's pretty cool, isn't it?
23:06.30ckknightI'm putting it in for GloryLib and TouristLib
23:06.44hyperChipmunkit is quite nifty
23:06.50ckknightalso, if you do this, /ace2 list libs will show the slashcommand.
23:06.55hyperChipmunkwhy not put it in your main addon though?
23:06.56ckknight- Glory-2.0 (/glory)
23:07.14ckknighthyperChipmunk, it will be, it's just that Glory-2.0 can be independant :-P
23:10.07hyperChipmunkwhat I want to know is how to alias '/bm as' to '/bm autosend'
23:10.23ckknighthrm
23:10.25ckknight...
23:10.37ckknightno current way that I know of now...
23:10.39hyperChipmunkwithout listing it twice
23:10.55ckknightwould this work:
23:11.08ckknightautosend = { ..., aliases = { "as" } }
23:12.44hyperChipmunkdoes it follow the same option = 'autosend' like Ace 1?
23:12.48hyperChipmunkfor defining?
23:13.34hyperChipmunkhm, no it doesn't
23:13.56hyperChipmunkyea, an aliases field would be great
23:16.51ckknightwhat's option = 'autosend' do?
23:17.22hyperChipmunknothing
23:17.32hyperChipmunk/bm autosend add
23:17.34hyperChipmunk/bm autosend rm
23:17.36hyperChipmunk/bm autosend ls
23:17.40hyperChipmunketc.
23:17.43hyperChipmunkthey do stuff
23:17.46ckknightokay
23:17.51hyperChipmunkmanipulate your automatic send list
23:17.55ckknightI think the option field is just the key now.
23:18.01hyperChipmunkyea
23:18.04hyperChipmunkI saw that
23:18.08ckknightwhich I much prefer
23:18.13hyperChipmunkotherwise I would have suggested allowing option to be a table
23:18.35hyperChipmunkso an alias field would be the way to do it
23:18.44hyperChipmunkI mean, I could as = autosend
23:18.57hyperChipmunkbut then they're gonna get it twice when they type just /bm
23:19.46ckknightwhat aliases will do:
23:19.49hyperChipmunkand someone will ask, 'what's the difference between as and autosend? they have the same description'
23:19.58ckknightit'll show
23:20.13ckknight- autosend | as - desc
23:20.19ckknightsince as is an alias
23:20.21hyperChipmunkthat's cool
23:20.38hyperChipmunki honestly dont' care if it shows =)
23:20.53hyperChipmunki just want to be able to use it, because typing it out is annoying when debugging
23:20.56ckknightshould it show?
23:21.03hyperChipmunkyea, it should
23:21.15hyperChipmunkbut it's no skin off MY back if it dont'
23:21.19hyperChipmunk>8p
23:21.57hyperChipmunkas long as I can use it in without some yerk askin' questions
23:22.23hyperChipmunkbut in terms of design, it should be visible when the list is printed
23:23.20hyperChipmunkhm
23:23.28hyperChipmunkisn't type reserved?
23:23.31hyperChipmunkapparently not
23:26.27Tekcubtype's just another function
23:26.33hyperChipmunkya
23:26.44Tekcubonly the syntax keywords are reserved AFAIK
23:27.32cladhairethe cub is correct
23:27.44cladhaireeverything else is valid due to scoping.
23:27.46Tekcub*rawr*
23:27.57cladhaireguess what i'm working on
23:27.58TekcubI almost licked a customer today
23:28.04cladhairewas he cute?
23:28.07Tekcubvery
23:28.10ckknightlol
23:28.23Tekcubcuhbbyish but not fat, nice SnP beard
23:28.37Tekcubdeep daddy voice
23:30.01cladhairemy boyfriend is playing the techno remix of "I like to move it, move it" from Madagascar.. over.. and over.. again.
23:30.11hyperChipmunkhahaha
23:30.22hyperChipmunkdoes he do the voice?
23:30.24netcursei like to move it move it
23:30.26cladhaireyes
23:30.27cladhaireits horrible.
23:30.37hyperChipmunkpwnd
23:30.37netcursethat remind me one of our raid
23:30.43Tekcuboh god
23:30.46netcurseMOVE IT MOVE IT
23:31.01Tekcub*digs up his Techno Dr Who mix to counter*
23:31.15hyperChipmunkooh
23:31.16*** join/#wowace tragywydd (n=Tragywyd@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com)
23:31.24hyperChipmunklink it up yo
23:31.24tragywyddit's NOT the techno remis
23:31.26tragywyddremix even
23:31.28tragywyddit's the actual song
23:31.33hyperChipmunklol
23:31.34TekcubI wonder where that dissappeared to.... god I need to get my server up and start sorting out my music
23:31.35cladhaireyes.. and it was cute.
23:31.36cladhaireonce.
23:31.38cladhairemaybe twice.
23:31.42cladhaire~Dr. Tran
23:31.55purl3, 2, 1... Dr Tran!
23:31.55tragywydd~drtran
23:32.04cladhaire~whalestab tragywydd
23:32.13purlACTION stabs tragywydd with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
23:32.13hyperChipmunkpurl is not to be relied upon today
23:32.20cladhaireapparently
23:32.21cladhairewow
23:32.21cladhairelol
23:32.21tragywydd~whaleparry cladhaire
23:32.29purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry cladhaire's attacks.
23:32.29Tekcubis wadd... uhm... spread acroos clad's face often?
23:32.29hyperChipmunk~whalebubble cladhaire
23:32.42tragywyddTekcub: WHAT?!
23:32.42cladhaireI'm working on SVN::Web.
23:32.42cladhairewe'll see how it goes
23:33.02Tekcubwell you logged in at the right moment and clad glared, I thought you might be the one he was bitching about
23:33.10tragywyddyes
23:33.23Tekcubso you are spread across his face nightly, okey
23:33.32cladhaireso not true =)
23:33.49snurreja kjenner en bott hon heter anna anna heter hon
23:33.51CIA-703ckknight * r3986 10GloryLib/ (. Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua GloryLib.toc): GloryLib - revamp to use Ace2 better.
23:33.52Tekcuboh, does clad do the spreading?
23:33.59cladhairewouldn't you lik to know.
23:34.05tragywyddhe was referring to my comment, lol
23:34.28ckknight...
23:34.41ckknightwhy does this channel always turn into a convo about gay sex?
23:34.42Tekcubmy manager's new nickname is NotInTheFace ^^
23:34.55tragywyddTekcub started it!
23:35.03Tekcubcause, uhm, it's all the gay sex I get?
23:35.11Tekcubwait I got some yesterday
23:35.12tragywyddDo you want to finish him off, ckknight?
23:35.14ckknight...
23:35.15TekcubI dunno then
23:35.19tragywyddCongrats, Tekcub.
23:35.27ckknightsadly, trag, I happen to be straight
23:35.38tragywyddI figured as much
23:35.52Tekcubsometimes I drive by those "Kum 'n Go" gas stations and I giggle
23:36.07tragywyddyou do a lot of giggling, I suspect.
23:36.19cladhaireand he's playing it again
23:36.23cladhairewe're even watching a nice movie
23:36.23tragywyddam not
23:36.29Tekcubyes... well I see that and I think "rest stop glory hole"
23:36.30hyperChipmunkit's because homosexuals as a rule feel the need to flaunt it to try to make everyone else uncomfortable
23:36.39cladhaire<-- not the rule
23:36.48Tekcub^^
23:36.49hyperChipmunkclad keeps it low-key
23:36.56ckknightyea, I didn't know clad was gay until this convo :-P
23:36.56tragywydd<-- doesn't flaunt anything except his superior intellect
23:37.05Tekcubckk, you're slow
23:37.05ckknightsurely it explains why he's so uppity, though.
23:37.07hyperChipmunkTekcub, on the other hand...
23:37.10cladhaireckknight: Really?  How'd you miss it?
23:37.15TainThat's hardly a rule.
23:37.17ckknightyou never talk about it, clad
23:37.17cladhaireckknight: no, I'm uppity because i'm an asshole.
23:37.29cladhaireckknight: the channel has this conversatino once every two weeks =)
23:37.30Tekcubhe was fooled by all your haire
23:37.33*** join/#wowace ag` (n=andreasg@0x57317a46.bynxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
23:37.34ckknightreally?
23:37.36cladhairebut its possible you weren't here for those
23:37.37ckknightmust've missed it.
23:37.37cladhaire*nod*
23:37.42Wobin*facepalm*
23:37.42cladhairesomeone new finds out each week or so :P
23:37.44cladhaireamadeo was last week
23:37.54Taincladhaire's gay?
23:37.58ckknightI know Tek's gay cause he constantly talks about chubby guys.
23:37.59Cairennlol
23:38.01Tekcubwhy do you think cair calls him "Honey" and such?
23:38.04ckknightapparently, Tain
23:38.04Tekcubshe's such a faghag
23:38.08hyperChipmunkthey say it's because they're more comfortable with their sexuality and aren't ashamed to discuss it openly like straight people tend to be
23:38.17Cairennfaghag?! FAGHAG?!
23:38.24Tekcubokey, just hag
23:38.24cladhaireTain: you're a vagina-face
23:38.26hyperChipmunkbut I just think it's impolite
23:38.26tragywydduh oh...
23:38.30WobinBut really, it's all about making other people squirm =P
23:38.30TainI'm not ashamed of my sexuality.
23:38.37CairennTekcub: ><
23:38.41ckknightcladhaire, don't diss the act of diving for oysters.
23:38.41Tekcublag hag?
23:38.41TainI happen to be a big fan of vagina-face.
23:38.42hyperChipmunkWobin: you got it
23:38.57ckknightTekcub, lol.
23:38.58Tekcubrag(naros) hag?
23:39.02WobinSit on my face, and tell me that you love me!
23:39.09TekcubI bet Cair is a crazy cat lady
23:39.16ckknightbag hag.
23:39.22WobinThat's Kael
23:39.23Tekcubbag lady!
23:39.29WobinOneBagHag
23:39.32ckknightlol.
23:39.44Tekcuboh thunder.... I love when holidays get fucked up on people :)
23:39.52ckknight?
23:39.53Wobinhehe, no fireworks for YOU!
23:39.56TainOk I'm going back to what I was actually doing.
23:40.02TekcubI don't do the 4th
23:40.11TekcubI don't do holidays in general really
23:40.11ckknightbut it's America Day, Tek
23:40.22TekcubAmerica can GFY
23:40.30Tekcubwhat's it done for me?
23:40.32tragywyddTek, Jehovah's Witness?
23:40.37Tekcub-
23:40.51Tekcubno, I'm a canadien trapped in an american's body
23:40.57WobinAmerica did Jehova's witnesses?
23:40.59ckknightI'm a Canadian
23:41.00hyperChipmunkironically, that's basically what got us this holiday, except the target was england
23:41.03ckknightoot
23:41.08Industrialhttp://www.mininova.org/tor/197730
23:41.10Industrial*queue*
23:41.16tragywyddif you're American, it's provided domestic security, certain civil rights, economic prosperity, and ignorance
23:41.27ckknightI've sent my American citizenship application form in :-P
23:41.29WobinI thought ignorance was inbuilt =P
23:41.36Tekcubuhm, prosperity?
23:41.39Wobinor maybe hereditary
23:41.53tragywyddHow many places in America have you been, Wobin?
23:41.55Tekcuband security? kek, not according to the prez
23:42.01WobinA few. Not too many
23:42.03hyperChipmunkIndustrial: dang, I only get 5G a month usenet
23:42.14IndustrialhyperChipmunk: see the number of seeds
23:42.27Industrialthat means full download all the way
23:42.28Industrial:P
23:42.32Industrial600kbps
23:42.36hyperChipmunkO_o
23:42.37Industrialcant wait for the 20mbit
23:42.38Industrial:p
23:42.39Wobinyow
23:42.41Wobin12g
23:42.42ckknightif you're a polygamist, do you have a "Better Third" instead of a "Better Half"?
23:42.58Industrialckknight: hehe
23:43.02Wobinhehe, A Better Twelfth
23:43.09Tekcubfor some reason I think "better half" is a stupid phrase
23:43.12IndustrialWobin: yeah but 5 season :>
23:43.22Tekcuband it's not the half that bothers me like it does most
23:43.27Wobincrazy =)
23:43.49WobinIs that the top or bottom half? =)
23:44.06Tekcubwob: vers, so how would we fit into that?
23:44.10ckknighttragywydd, I think the concept of a legal marriage should be abolished :-P
23:44.17tragywyddhahah why?
23:44.19Wobinhehe, my friend freaks out the roleplayers on our server by relating the Story of Solomon the Wise Orc
23:44.20TekcubhC gotta find it
23:44.28hyperChipmunkhurry
23:44.29ckknightI'm fine with spiritual marriage
23:44.33ckknightgo to a church, get married
23:44.33Tekcubhum... "Doctorin the TARDIS" I think was the name...
23:44.34Wobinwho vivisected a NightElf to solve a problem
23:44.42ckknightI just don't think there should be laws regarding marriage
23:44.43hyperChipmunklol doctorin' the tardis
23:44.54Tekcubckk, I'm not spiritual in that sense, so marriage is meaningless to me there
23:44.56ckknightkeep the government out of my pants.
23:45.06ckknightthey're my pants.
23:45.09tragywyddbut what about spousal rights?
23:45.16Wobinaye that's the nub
23:45.18hyperChipmunkpfft, I'll take the benefits thx
23:45.28ckknighttragywydd, I believe business arrangements regarding that should be handled outside of a marriage context.
23:45.31Tekcubyea but "marrage" is an easy way to define a pair of people that get special tax bullshit
23:45.32WobinMarriage is more concerned with the legal rights
23:45.39hyperChipmunkTekcub: right on
23:46.01ckknightsimple solution to marriage: get rid of those damn taxes.
23:46.03WobinThe secular portion of it, anyway
23:46.04tragywydda _lot_ more than taxes deal with marriage law
23:46.10TekcubI want marriage rights, I don't give a flying fuck if someone's diety approves of my lifesyle
23:46.19ckknightthere are 61 rights granted with marriage :-P
23:46.28hyperChipmunkthey can come measure my penis if it gives me a tax break
23:46.39WobinhyperChipmunk: They might come up short, though =)
23:46.47TekcubPeniles Wellfare for the less fortunate?
23:46.49tragywyddhyperChipmunk: agreed, though I'm afraid they'd end up charging me a luxury tax.
23:46.51Tekcub*Penile
23:47.19hyperChipmunk~whaleslap wobin
23:47.27purlACTION beats wobin upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
23:47.28ckknightsame here
23:47.41Wobin"Your Honour, my client has enacted the "It's Fucking Cold" defense in his claim for Penile Tax..."
23:47.50ckknightI blame my penis size on hormones I was fed a kid :-P
23:48.10TekcubI blame me size on... meh I don't have a reason
23:48.21ckknightI'm not really complaining, though
23:48.29ckknightI mean, I'm above-average
23:48.43Tekcubat least I don't have "fat man dick".... tho that'll change if I gain any more weight from my hubby's fatty diet
23:48.55ckknightI see sex as a cruel joke by biology
23:49.09ckknightit's trying to keep us down and prevent us from doing other, more productive things
23:49.21WobinSince they piped the sewerage system through the same place as the pleasure one? =P
23:49.29ckknightno
23:49.34ckknightthat we have sex at all
23:49.43WobinDamn that reproductive drive
23:49.52ckknightif we eliminated sex, we wouldn't need to deal with all the shit.
23:49.58ckknightbitchy women
23:50.00Tekcubit's just like game of biological Super Soakers
23:50.02WobinFor at least one or so generations =P
23:50.24ckknightlet's just go for a whole Brave New World approach.
23:50.27Tekcubshootin DNA at each other...
23:50.39Wobinwhile pumping frantically?
23:50.57TekcubI put that bender quote into purl somewhere...
23:51.01Industrial<@ckknight> I mean, I'm above-average
23:51.05Industrialthat goes in the quotes
23:51.06Tekcub~shooting dna
23:51.21purlPlease, he's no different from the rest of you organisms. Shooting DNA at each other to make babies. I find it offensive!
23:51.21Industrial:P
23:51.21cladhairelol
23:51.22ckknightlol
23:51.22Tekcubnope...
23:51.22ckknightTekcub, your sex doesn't even have any point at all :-P
23:51.22WobinIndustrial: Not enough context
23:51.25IndustrialWobin: line above too
23:51.28hyperChipmunkhaha
23:51.28Tekcubthat's why I don't have it very often I think
23:51.40Tekcubtoo much effort for the gooey payoff
23:51.41hyperChipmunkpurl late to the party again
23:51.54trolliedPopulation paste
23:51.57ckknightlol
23:52.02ckknighttrollied, who're you?
23:52.22trolliedsorry, i'm new around here. only been playing a month or so :)
23:52.27ckknightokay
23:52.31Tekcuba troll, duh, rate him down!
23:52.31ckknightI don't even play anymore
23:52.33ckknightso no biggie
23:52.38Tekcuboh wait, alla forum flashback
23:52.54IndustrialTekcub: youve come to the right place
23:53.03Industrialerr, trollied
23:53.09Tekcubyea....
23:53.12Industrialtrollied: but avoid my karma please :D
23:53.18Industrial(on the forum)
23:53.30Tekcubindie, you're fired, again... why are you still here?  You've been off the payroll for months
23:53.44ckknighthe has voice
23:53.45Industrialbut, but!
23:53.48Industrialyeah :P
23:53.57ckknightI gave it to him a few days ago
23:54.01ckknightand he hasn't lost it yet
23:54.01Industrialand im still spewing out addons..
23:54.08ckknighttek keeps d/c'ing
23:54.12hyperChipmunkspew is about right
23:54.13*** mode/#wowace [+v Tekcub] by ckknight
23:54.40Tekcub*shrug* I could just log out when I'm not here, but that's never been my style
23:54.53ckknightI d/c when my connection fails
23:54.56Tekcubit's easier to ignore my mother's IMs if I can pretend to be elsewhere
23:55.04Industriali d/c once a few months
23:55.18ckknightyou'll have voice for a while, then
23:55.24Industrial:)
23:56.30Industrialwhere were we, oh right, ckknight's penis size
23:56.40ckknightyea
23:56.45ckknightI'm like 7.5"
23:56.51ckknightlast time I measured
23:57.10tragywyddwell, unless it was when you were 16 it probably hasn't changed much
23:57.12Tekcubthat's 5.5 real world inches, for anyone who doesn't have their chart
23:57.23Industrialghe ghe
23:57.23Industrial:P
23:57.28CairennIndustrial: what?
23:57.35tragywyddnow now, don't put him down just because you're jealous, tekcub
23:57.51cladhairei think we've hit a new low.
23:58.08Wobincladhaire: Give it time, I'm sure we cn get lower
23:58.08Tekcubwhat's to be jealous of, I'm more of a bottom I like guys who are big
23:58.14ckknightlol, no, Tek
23:58.25ckknightit's actually 7.5"
23:58.27ckknightI'm not ashamed
23:58.30ckknightif I were, I'd be 9.5"
23:58.37Tekcubthick is more enjoyable than long tho, which is half the reason I like bears
23:58.38ckknightwhich is just too much to manage
23:58.51ckknightyea, girth is more important than length
23:58.53Wobin*zip* *rollrollroll* *thud*
23:58.57ckknightthough they typically go hand in hand
23:59.03TekcubI've had a hard nine before, it IS too much
23:59.07IndustrialWobin: lol
23:59.07cladhaireckknight: You'd be suprised.
23:59.14ckknightoh well
23:59.15ckknight*shrug*
23:59.25ckknightI don't compare cocks with guys I meet
23:59.32ckknightunlike some people
23:59.32cladhairewhy not?  everyone should.
23:59.35cladhairecair showed me her cock
23:59.38tragywyddbut apparently you've thought about it enough
23:59.39WobinIt'd make for good conversation starters
23:59.42ckknight<cough>hyperChipmunk</cough>
23:59.42Industrialckknight: LOL
23:59.44Tekcubthick ones are great, especially on abear that puts his weight into it :)
23:59.44cladhaireHUGE btw

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