00:01.20 | mjc | any ideas? :p |
00:01.50 | CIA-7 | 03kebinusan * r3922 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua: BigWigs: Forgot to declare metrognome in Razuvious.lua |
00:04.27 | Galka_ | goddamnit, not having a working baraddon blows |
00:04.34 | Galka_ | Any recommendations for a baraddon? |
00:04.39 | Kebinusan | mjc, delete your saved variables.lua |
00:04.49 | Kebinusan | err the bigwigs.lua in your saved variables file |
00:05.07 | Kebinusan | there was a post on the forums sometimes, it gets corrupt or something it seems |
00:05.34 | mjc | thanks, we'l lsee how it goes |
00:05.36 | mjc | :) |
00:05.49 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3923 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: |
00:05.53 | hyperChipmunk | bongos ftw |
00:06.00 | mjc | bongos? |
00:06.09 | hyperChipmunk | bar addon |
00:07.09 | kergoth | bongos ram usage is bad |
00:07.09 | Galka_ | bongos is large though |
00:07.13 | Galka_ | Carbars still works no? |
00:07.14 | kergoth | i'll stick to bartender |
00:07.29 | Mikma | well this current version or Bartender is using 53KiB |
00:07.33 | Mikma | but it's not workibf properly |
00:07.37 | Galka_ | What version are you running, Kergoth? |
00:07.41 | Galka_ | SVN version is fubared |
00:08.02 | kergoth | i'm using 1.031b |
00:08.16 | Galka_ | gotten off WoWI? |
00:08.18 | mjc | Kebinusan: no luck |
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00:08.49 | Mikma | Galka_: it's in wowi, worldofwar.net and curse |
00:09.08 | Kebinusan | hm :-/ do the saved variables files actually have something in them? |
00:10.13 | kergoth | simpleminimap can do texture switching now. woot. stuffed mikma's texture in there and its all painless, no longer need the random bits addon at all |
00:10.31 | Mikma | yeah i removed the movable minimap from bartender today |
00:10.35 | Galka_ | woot |
00:10.37 | Galka_ | thank you for that |
00:10.51 | Mikma | but, as you can see it's fucked up tho |
00:10.55 | gnorlish | what's mikma's texture |
00:11.12 | Mikma | i have checked and doublechecked the code and still haven't found out the reason why it won't work |
00:11.33 | Mikma | gnorlish: http://kergoth.com/images/wow_018.jpg |
00:11.45 | gnorlish | that's tasty |
00:11.57 | Galka_ | It is tasty, but I feel it doesn't belong in a Barmod |
00:12.00 | Galka_ | That's my view. |
00:12.15 | kergoth | agreed |
00:12.19 | gnorlish | purist! i bet you hate the designated hitter in baseball too! |
00:12.19 | Mikma | Galka_: the texture hasn't been in for couple of versions |
00:12.25 | Galka_ | I know |
00:12.40 | Galka_ | I use Bartender religiously sir |
00:13.52 | snurre | Mikma: what buffmod is that? |
00:14.17 | Mikma | snurre: it's kergoth's ss but i bet it's Elkano's BuffBar |
00:14.41 | snurre | intriguing |
00:14.58 | kergoth | indeed it is |
00:14.59 | Galka_ | Aye, seems to be elkano's |
00:15.04 | kergoth | its perty |
00:15.12 | Galka_ | Elkanos looks especially sexy with Squeenix |
00:15.57 | Mikma | fuck this, i'm off to bed |
00:15.57 | kergoth | should try simpleminimap. it includes the square minimap texture. /smm skin flips between the defined textures. can easily add mikma's to it, then you can flip between the 3 :) |
00:16.23 | snurre | im using idMinimap |
00:16.41 | Galka_ | I used SMM awhile back, all I remember is it was buggy and not very small |
00:16.42 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3924 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: This does not work. Don't use unless you are finding the reason for it. |
00:16.46 | Galka_ | I use Squeenix now |
00:17.15 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Bartender/Bartender.lua |
00:17.23 | Mikma | anyone can look at the code now and see it's rather small now |
00:17.23 | snurre | what does bartender do anyway? |
00:17.35 | kergoth | lets you move the blizzard actionbars and such. like cardbars |
00:17.47 | kergoth | also rips out the actionbutton borders, which i love |
00:17.51 | Mikma | and it's light, 53KiB moment ago with semiworking crap |
00:17.56 | Tekcub | *erf* |
00:18.00 | snurre | hm |
00:18.01 | snurre | weird |
00:18.10 | snurre | when i use a custom buffbar, it doesnt show it at all |
00:18.16 | snurre | same problem with ctbuffbar too |
00:18.18 | Mikma | it _doesn't_ move the bars to correct locations, dunno why |
00:18.32 | Mikma | also it doesn't restore the positions without error, dunno why |
00:18.32 | kergoth | simpleminimap uses 45K of ram in game here |
00:19.26 | Mikma | kergoth: btw, in case you wanna do your own barmod/etc, look the BarFuncs.lua in Bartender folder ;) |
00:19.36 | kergoth | nifty, will do :) |
00:19.38 | Kebinusan | where is a good place to get minimap textures anyway |
00:20.09 | Kebinusan | Im looking for a good square one |
00:20.14 | Mikma | ok laters |
00:23.08 | snurre | TinyTipAnchor.lua:139: GameTooltip:SetPoint(): Unknown region point |
00:24.06 | Thrae|WoW | snurre: What are you using for your anchor? |
00:24.34 | snurre | anchor cursor and uanchor smart i think it was |
00:25.02 | Thrae|WoW | snurre: Did you do /ttip uanchor "SMART" or /ttip uanchor SMART |
00:25.16 | snurre | without the "" |
00:25.35 | mjc | Mikma: /bar micro /bar bag no longer work |
00:25.54 | Wobin | bah |
00:26.05 | Thrae|WoW | snurre: Are you using 3906 SVN? |
00:26.12 | Thrae|WoW | Sorry, 3915 |
00:26.23 | snurre | yeah, the latest |
00:26.30 | snurre | updated it a few mins ago |
00:26.46 | Wobin | As much as I like my roommate, the fact that his idea of 'washing the dishes' means that he lays out the thinnest possible number of dishes on the drying mat and then leaves the rest unwashed in the sink will never cease to piss me off. |
00:27.20 | Wobin | and his gf comes in and makes herself lunch. |
00:27.23 | Wobin | using every single pot |
00:27.28 | Wobin | and leaves them |
00:27.40 | Wobin | doesn't even take them off the stove or rinse them a bit |
00:27.46 | Wobin | And I end up cleaning it |
00:27.55 | hyperChipmunk | let it all out, brutha! |
00:27.59 | Wobin | rarararar |
00:28.03 | Wobin | oh well |
00:28.07 | Wobin | only about 10 more days |
00:28.27 | Industrial | Wobin: just leave it |
00:28.30 | Industrial | they'll notice |
00:28.33 | Industrial | and ask about it |
00:28.38 | Wobin | Industrial: I've tried that |
00:28.43 | Industrial | and then be like WOOOAAAHHHHHH :@:@:@:@:@:@ |
00:28.44 | Industrial | on them |
00:28.45 | Industrial | :p |
00:28.52 | Wobin | Except I'm more likely to eat at home then they are |
00:28.59 | Wobin | they'll just ignore it and eat out =P |
00:29.04 | Industrial | hmm |
00:29.04 | Industrial | :p |
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00:33.32 | phyber | 0127.20 < Wobin> and his gf comes in and makes herself lunch. |
00:33.33 | phyber | 0127.23 < Wobin> using every single pot |
00:33.42 | phyber | my gf does the same thing |
00:33.47 | phyber | it's why i refuse to wash up. |
00:33.57 | Wobin | I've done that |
00:34.04 | Wobin | but then they continue to use every single plate |
00:34.09 | Wobin | til I have to wash to eat |
00:34.35 | Wobin | I've considered just moving all the dirty dishes and leaving them in a very flat pile on their bed |
00:34.42 | Wobin | As a 'subtle' reminder |
00:35.03 | Wobin | but really, aside from that one quirk, he's a good roommate |
00:38.13 | Tekcub | stupid question guys.... anyone have a boss transcript that might have tranq shot messages in it? preferrably in engrish... |
00:39.08 | Gngsk | how do I broadcast bigwigs warning to my raid with oRA? |
00:41.07 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r3925 10TinyTip/ (TinyTipAnchor.lua TinyTipChat.lua): TinyTip: - uanchor, uoffx, and uoffy are now properly part of TinyTipChat.lua and hence the slash commands. If you mistakely set anchor to SMART, set it again and no more errors. |
00:41.52 | Tekcub | BigWigs_RaidWarn, no raid mods are needed |
00:42.25 | Gngsk | ahh, ok, is that in svn? |
00:42.30 | Tekcub | yes |
00:42.41 | Gngsk | cool, thanks |
00:47.32 | ag` | what tools do you people use to create graphics for your addons? |
00:49.13 | phyber | 3000 hours + mspaint |
00:49.26 | phyber | I use Paint.NET, when I'm attempting to make something |
00:49.49 | ag` | I was more thinking of the conversion tools :-) |
00:50.48 | phyber | ah |
00:51.43 | phyber | I wrote my own conversion thing in perl |
00:51.51 | phyber | using the Imager module |
00:52.19 | mjc | imagemagick :p |
00:52.52 | ag` | was thinking about how to convert BLP to TGA |
00:53.01 | Tekcub | GIMP |
00:53.18 | ag` | the gimp can open BLP files? |
00:53.28 | Tekcub | *shrug* itt's what I use tho |
00:54.27 | mjc | aha |
00:54.29 | mjc | ag`: sup |
00:54.40 | ag` | hi |
00:58.08 | Wobin | er it can't |
00:58.24 | Wobin | From blp to tga...get xnview |
00:58.44 | Wobin | the other way around? You'll have to find that converter on curse/wowi |
01:00.51 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub * r3926 10GratuityLib/ (. Gratuity-2.0/Gratuity-2.0.lua GratuityLib.toc): |
01:00.51 | CIA-7 | GratuityLib |
01:00.51 | CIA-7 | - Fixed Set* methods not initialiving properly |
01:00.52 | CIA-7 | - Added Externals for AceLibrary and Compost-2.0, also added to TOC (so that it'll function standalone) |
01:01.00 | Tekcub | there :P |
01:06.41 | mjc | it'd be nice if there was a way to keep track of who's casting what when |
01:06.46 | mjc | like, other than combat log |
01:07.02 | mjc | a window for mages casting X, window for rogues casting Y, and just a list of who casts and what spell |
01:07.28 | Thrae|WoW | PM for TinyTip "Hi, can you make it so you don't have to mouseover a unit to see if they're targeting you?" |
01:08.24 | mjc | heh |
01:08.38 | hyperChipmunk | awesome |
01:09.18 | hyperChipmunk | that's definitely a tooltip mod's job to do |
01:09.21 | mjc | Thrae|WoW: pwned |
01:09.50 | Thrae|WoW | Reading further, they want Target of Target information...which is in the default UI |
01:11.02 | Tekcub | thrae |
01:11.05 | Tekcub | *slap* |
01:11.09 | Tekcub | lern2commit note |
01:11.26 | Tekcub | :P I'm sick of your commits, I don't know what the fuck I'm looking at |
01:11.28 | Thrae|WoW | Hey I added TinyTip: to the last commit |
01:11.51 | Tekcub | :P do it on all of em or incur furry wrath! |
01:12.16 | Thrae|WoW | CIA-7 made me believe it automatically added them :D |
01:12.26 | Thrae|WoW | Why doesn't the SVN log at least add the main directory in which the update occur? |
01:13.03 | Tekcub | cause SVN isn't designed for multiple projects in one repo |
01:13.10 | Tekcub | or mass amounts of projects |
01:13.16 | Thrae|WoW | ahh |
01:13.38 | Tekcub | but the many-repos thing didn't work too well with sharing permissions |
01:14.42 | cladhaire | we could add the trunjk/branch info, but we strip it right now on purpose. |
01:15.25 | Tekcub | okey, I'm gonna toss out a vote again since we never got a decition last night |
01:15.35 | Tekcub | ModMenu, total rewrite, need a name... |
01:16.01 | Tekcub | MM2? MM3? MMM? MoreModMenu? Fubar_MenFu? |
01:16.08 | Tekcub | MenMe? MenYou! ? |
01:16.29 | Kebinusan | does it do the same thing? |
01:16.33 | Kebinusan | ModMenuAce! <g> |
01:16.35 | Tekcub | it will bee functionally similar |
01:16.45 | Tekcub | but the underlying framework will be totally different |
01:16.46 | Thrae|WoW | No no, Fubar_ModMenuAceFu! |
01:16.54 | Tekcub | it'll be driven mostly off TOC metadata |
01:17.04 | Tekcub | DeuceMenuFu |
01:17.21 | Tekcub | m^3 |
01:17.32 | Thrae|WoW | TocanSam |
01:17.52 | mjc | ttip is only reporting one person as targeting onyxia |
01:17.54 | mjc | heh |
01:17.57 | Tekcub | KidsMenu |
01:18.02 | Tekcub | LunchMenu |
01:18.04 | Tekcub | WineMenu |
01:18.21 | Tekcub | ExtraValueMenu |
01:19.47 | Tekcub | is it just me, or is "Tiny" tip quickly ammassing features that are, well, not really necessary? |
01:19.56 | Makk | AvastMenu |
01:20.07 | Tekcub | ArrMenu? |
01:20.09 | Tekcub | RMenu |
01:20.17 | Thrae|WoW | You can delete stuff you don't want, hence keeping it Tiny |
01:20.20 | Tekcub | REMenu |
01:20.41 | Makk | YarrVastMenu |
01:20.56 | Makk | McMenu |
01:21.01 | Tekcub | my personal "Tooltip mod" does one thing, anchor the tip in the same place it's noramlly anchored, but relative to WorldFrame instead of UIParent |
01:21.17 | Tekcub | Unem |
01:21.27 | Makk | I like it on the mouse |
01:21.43 | Tekcub | UfUnem |
01:22.11 | Tekcub | NAMM, Not Another Mod Menu |
01:22.27 | Tekcub | Navi? |
01:22.43 | Tekcub | bah, why can't I find a good name for this bitch |
01:22.53 | Tekcub | I can't start coding without a name! |
01:23.28 | ag` | MadMenu |
01:23.35 | Tekcub | >< |
01:24.08 | Tekcub | screw clad, I'll name it PerfectMenu |
01:24.54 | Tekcub | fine, GenericMenu it is until something better comes along |
01:24.57 | ag` | isn't that what you call things you don't know what to name |
01:25.55 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r3927 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Target Of Raid should now iterate over all raid members instead of just up to 5. |
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01:27.22 | mjc | thrae: thanks |
01:30.13 | mjc | Tekcub: MenuMagic ? |
01:32.41 | Kyahx | is oRA acting up for anyone else? |
01:33.19 | mjc | Mikma: bartender is acting up too |
01:33.23 | mjc | Kyahx: not me |
01:34.57 | Thrae|WoW | Tekcub: Could you make a quick option to CorkFu to check if we're in a Battleground or not? |
01:35.15 | Tekcub | why? |
01:35.25 | Gngsk | is wipe detection part of BW core? |
01:35.29 | Tekcub | no |
01:35.39 | Tekcub | but it will be if ammo gets it working well |
01:35.47 | Gngsk | ahh |
01:35.55 | Thrae|WoW | As a Druid, I don't normally care about others buffs in Arathi Basin or Warsong Gulch, and I care about Thorns on myself only in PvP |
01:36.10 | Thrae|WoW | So I need to keep resetting my CorkFu settings when doing PvP |
01:36.19 | Tekcub | so you want totally different settings in PvP |
01:36.28 | Tekcub | that's kinda annoying :P |
01:36.28 | Thrae|WoW | s/others/other's/ |
01:36.36 | Tekcub | stupid PvP |
01:36.57 | Thrae|WoW | Well, how about just multiple profiles per character? |
01:37.20 | Tekcub | still that's not like a 5min code job |
01:37.35 | Tekcub | but yea, drop me a feature request so I don't forget |
01:38.24 | Kyahx | Thrae: just use the druid / charecter profiles that are already there :P |
01:38.29 | Kyahx | but use one for normal play, and one for PvP |
01:38.42 | Kyahx | then you swap profiles, instead of each setting |
01:39.28 | Tekcub | yea, that's an option too |
01:57.30 | Kaelten | hows it going guys? |
01:58.25 | hyperChipmunk | eyo |
02:01.46 | CIA-7 | 03kyahx * r3928 10oRA_Menu/ (Core.lua oRA_Menu.toc): (log message trimmed) |
02:01.46 | CIA-7 | oRA Menu : 0.3a |
02:01.46 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
02:01.46 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
02:01.46 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
02:01.48 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
02:01.53 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
02:02.05 | Kyahx | mmm, spammy |
02:02.56 | kergoth | okay, i'm officially a moron |
02:03.02 | Kyahx | k |
02:03.16 | kergoth | i havent been to brd in ages... i talked to someone i shouldnt have |
02:03.21 | kergoth | and got us all killed :P |
02:11.54 | Gngsk | Kyahx, if you use the style toggle will that work if your raid leader doesn't use oRA but uses the blizz readycheck? |
02:12.19 | Kyahx | Promoteds can just set their style to oRA and send them |
02:12.45 | Gngsk | well, I wanna see the oRA ready check and sound when my raid leader uses /readycheck |
02:12.59 | Kyahx | no, you will still see the built in |
02:13.22 | Gngsk | would it ever be possible to do that though? |
02:13.37 | Kyahx | not via oRA Menu, thats a job for oRA_Ready |
02:13.44 | Kyahx | I believe its planned, but not top priority ATM |
02:14.12 | Kyahx | all the menu does is interface with the other shit you have =) dosent change anything |
02:16.33 | Galka_ | ok im using latest SVN oRA |
02:16.41 | Galka_ | Not even getting my guild's MT targets |
02:16.54 | Kyahx | Mr hand broke it again |
02:17.00 | Kyahx | revert one revision back |
02:17.32 | Galka_ | Not sure how to do that on TortiousSVN |
02:17.45 | Kyahx | right-click -> tortise -> update to revision |
02:17.45 | Gngsk | Kyahx, ahh thanks for the info :) |
02:18.15 | Galka_ | Whats the # of the correct revision Kyahx? |
02:18.28 | Kyahx | just click on the change-log |
02:18.32 | Kyahx | I dont remember the number |
02:18.50 | Galka_ | July 2nd? |
02:18.53 | Gngsk | 3779 |
02:18.59 | Kyahx | whatever the second newest is, by otravi |
02:20.36 | Galka_ | Hasnt fixed it |
02:20.51 | Galka_ | still no MT windows |
02:20.54 | Kyahx | you reloaded UI? |
02:20.56 | Gngsk | I'm running the latest revision with no problems |
02:21.01 | Galka_ | Yes, reloaded |
02:21.14 | Kyahx | did you roll back the oRA main tank or the oRA core? |
02:21.45 | Galka_ | oRA core |
02:21.50 | Kyahx | hmmm |
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02:21.57 | Kebinusan | yeah Im looking at the diff right now |
02:22.08 | Kyahx | Gngsk, did you update today? |
02:22.23 | Gngsk | yea, about 1/2 hour ago |
02:22.26 | Kebinusan | 3896 works, but 3897 doesnt seem to |
02:22.27 | Kyahx | hmmm |
02:22.36 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke * r3929 10HealWatch/ (4 files): |
02:22.36 | CIA-7 | HealWatch: |
02:22.36 | CIA-7 | - changed coms for CTRA a little bit |
02:22.36 | CIA-7 | - made group heals work (hopefully) |
02:22.36 | CIA-7 | - changed heals to be a single byte |
02:22.37 | CIA-7 | - started removing UpdateBars everywhere |
02:22.39 | CIA-7 | - working on a fix for targeting |
02:22.48 | Kebinusan | err |
02:22.50 | Kebinusan | 3779 |
02:22.54 | Kebinusan | works |
02:22.55 | Kyahx | yea |
02:22.56 | Galka_ | 3779 doesnt work for me |
02:23.04 | Galka_ | oRA 3779 right? |
02:23.11 | Kyahx | did you rejoin the channel and request a status update? |
02:23.16 | Kebinusan | yeah |
02:23.34 | Kyahx | 3779 is working for me =/ |
02:26.14 | Galka_ | Yes, did that, and no, still doesnt work |
02:26.47 | Kebinusan | 3779 works for me too, just join the channel and do a /ora request |
02:28.03 | Galka_ | only reverted in oRA, right? |
02:28.08 | Galka_ | not the other modules |
02:28.24 | Kebinusan | yeah |
02:28.50 | Galka_ | Ok, yeah. 3779 isnt working for me |
02:28.53 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke * r3930 10/branches/HealWatch/: Created folder remotely |
02:28.57 | Galka_ | Have done everything suggested |
02:29.17 | Kebinusan | I'll look at the diff and see if I can fix it here in a bit |
02:29.46 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke 07joshborke * r3931 10HealWatch/: Created joshborke folder inside HealWatch folder in branches |
02:35.04 | Wobin | snorf |
02:36.16 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke * r3932 10HealWatch/ (7 files): HealWatch: reverting changes and moving changes to a branch |
02:39.44 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke 07joshborke * r3933 10HealWatch/HealWatch/: HealWatch: branching to implement dynamic frames |
02:40.09 | Galka_ | Ok |
02:40.13 | Galka_ | 3779 just started working. |
02:40.15 | Galka_ | For some reason. |
02:40.19 | Galka_ | And what triggered it: |
02:40.33 | Galka_ | <PROTECTED> |
02:40.34 | Galka_ | Did that |
02:40.38 | Galka_ | And all of them popped up |
02:40.51 | kergoth | hmm, i like fubar_restfu |
02:42.00 | kergoth | think i found a tinytip bug, perhaps |
02:47.08 | Kyahx | adding a slash command to a non-ace addon, why can't I figure this out |
02:47.13 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke 07joshborke * r3934 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (6 files): |
02:47.13 | CIA-7 | HealWatch: un-reverted changes from trunk into the branch: |
02:47.13 | CIA-7 | - labels are dynamically created |
02:47.13 | CIA-7 | - castbars are dynamically created |
02:47.13 | CIA-7 | - having some trouble with some positioning |
02:47.14 | CIA-7 | - having some trouble with targeting |
02:55.42 | CIA-7 | 03silverwind * r3935 10AceTargetLog/AceTargetLog.lua: |
02:55.42 | CIA-7 | AceTargetLog: |
02:55.42 | CIA-7 | - tweaked locals |
03:04.13 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke 07joshborke * r3937 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (5 files): |
03:04.14 | CIA-7 | HealWatch: multiple changes |
03:04.14 | CIA-7 | - added HealWatchFrames back in |
03:04.14 | CIA-7 | - made raid changes set a dirty flag that is reset when the changes are propagated to the healwatch roster. hopefully saves a little bit of performance |
03:04.14 | CIA-7 | - made some changes with targeting |
03:04.15 | CIA-7 | - updated version to 0.51-11100 |
03:08.35 | mjc | bartender is definitely fub'd |
03:18.14 | Galka_ | get 1.031b off WoWI |
03:18.26 | Galka_ | revert |
03:29.55 | Thrae|WoW | Anyone use Simple Combat Log? |
03:32.52 | kergoth | i do |
03:33.06 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke 07joshborke * r3938 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (5 files): |
03:33.06 | CIA-7 | HealWatch: lots of changes |
03:33.06 | CIA-7 | - updated changes.txt |
03:33.06 | CIA-7 | - fixed the targeting bug almost completely. still there is some way to confuse it. |
03:33.06 | CIA-7 | - made healing touch a single target spell |
03:33.07 | CIA-7 | - made UpdateTarget control all aspects of the update target process ;-) |
03:44.08 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke 07joshborke * r3939 10HealWatch/HealWatch/ (HealWatch.lua HealWatchEvents.lua HealWatchFrames.lua): |
03:44.08 | CIA-7 | HealWatch: |
03:44.09 | CIA-7 | - minor targeting tweaks |
03:44.09 | CIA-7 | - minor frame and event tweaks |
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04:12.52 | Tekcub | wheeee |
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04:19.40 | Tekcub | maybe I should just name it FuBar_ModMenuTwoFu |
04:19.59 | hyperChipmunk | ModMenuDeuxFu |
04:24.31 | Thrae|WoW | How do you get Simple Combat Log to display only numbers? |
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04:38.15 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3940 10Ace2/ (AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua readme.txt): |
04:38.15 | CIA-7 | Ace2 - |
04:38.15 | CIA-7 | Fixed bug in AceConsole when dealing with ranges that would allow invalid values to go through after a successful one. |
04:38.15 | CIA-7 | Added enhancements to AceConsole when you are dealing with percentages in a rage type. |
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04:39.38 | Kaelten | wb ckknight, you missed my commit! lol |
04:39.53 | ckknight | I was in the shower |
04:39.58 | Kaelten | lol |
04:40.01 | ckknight | I've been working all day |
04:40.48 | ckknight | my dad's employee is on holiday |
04:40.59 | ckknight | and he needed an extra pair of hands |
04:41.24 | Kaelten | ya Aceconsole was using a global good when validating the input on a range so after the first one then they would all pass |
04:42.08 | ckknight | oh |
04:42.10 | ckknight | my bad |
04:42.31 | Kaelten | ya, np, its fixed now |
04:43.32 | Kaelten | I also made the output on percentage ranges look like precentages instead of decimals |
04:45.59 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3941 10Ace2/ (12 files in 11 dirs): Ace2 - Set the revision keyword up again. |
04:48.01 | ckknight | okay |
04:48.16 | ckknight | seems good |
05:00.53 | Tekcub | hey ckk, just had a thought for DewDrop, dunno if it already does this |
05:01.12 | Tekcub | if you don't define a value when you addline, will it pass the text as the value? |
05:01.43 | ckknight | um |
05:01.45 | ckknight | no |
05:01.51 | ckknight | I'd prefer an explicit value |
05:01.58 | Tekcub | okey |
05:02.23 | Tekcub | I just find I almost always am setting value the same as text, unless I need to pass a table |
05:08.14 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3942 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua OneBag.xml): |
05:08.14 | CIA-7 | OneBag - |
05:08.15 | CIA-7 | Added ability for the user to set the bag's scale, values must be between 20% and 200% |
05:08.15 | CIA-7 | Added ability for the user to set the bag's transparency, values must be between 5% and 100% |
05:08.15 | CIA-7 | They keyring frame will now show up right above the onebag frame when its opened from within onebag's frame. |
05:09.32 | ckknight | I should probably hack on something |
05:09.38 | ckknight | but my leges hurt... |
05:14.18 | ckknight | legs* |
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05:19.21 | FryGuy | ungh I don't understand why the start trigger for patch isn't working :( |
05:19.24 | ckknight | hrm, indie still has voice |
05:20.01 | FryGuy | anyone see anything wrong with this? |
05:20.02 | FryGuy | "Patchwerk want to play!" |
05:20.15 | FryGuy | it's.. exactly what he says |
05:23.21 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3943 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua OneBag.xml): OneBag - Scale and Alpha settings will carry over to keyring bag and side bag bar. |
05:23.48 | Kaelten | anyone think of any features/options I can put into onebag before I go to work on onebank? |
05:26.04 | kergoth | ooh, the new version of chatr has a buddy list thingy |
05:26.15 | Kaelten | chatr? |
05:27.30 | kergoth | addon that pops up seperate little windows for each person you're whispering. works really nicely |
05:27.40 | kergoth | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2766 |
05:32.14 | hyperChipmunk | wow errors |
05:32.40 | hyperChipmunk | onebag just nuked all my ace2 stuff O_o |
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05:34.32 | FryGuy | mine crashes wow when I close a chat window, so I had to remove it |
05:36.36 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: huh? |
05:36.42 | hyperChipmunk | [01:35-2972] OneBag\AceDB\AceDB-2.0.lua:571: attempt to index a nil value |
05:36.48 | hyperChipmunk | [01:35-2972] ...nterface\OneBag\AceConsole\AceConsole-2.0.lua:1235: attempt to index a nil value |
05:36.58 | hyperChipmunk | OneBag\AceAddon\AceAddon-2.0.lua:334: attempt to index a nil value |
05:37.05 | hyperChipmunk | there's about 7 of those |
05:37.11 | hyperChipmunk | happens for oUF too |
05:37.20 | Kaelten | huh? |
05:37.50 | Kaelten | those can't be right |
05:37.52 | hyperChipmunk | last ace2 update seems to have done some badness |
05:38.04 | Kaelten | whats the first addon that loads with Ace2? |
05:38.36 | hyperChipmunk | i only have 2, onebag and oUF; I tried them both individually, and together, and they both give the same errors, with only the paths different (obviously) |
05:38.53 | Kaelten | did you update them right? |
05:39.04 | hyperChipmunk | svn update, like i"ve always done |
05:39.18 | hyperChipmunk | same line numbers with both |
05:39.24 | hyperChipmunk | I'm guessing that has to be an ace2 error |
05:39.33 | hyperChipmunk | line 571 of AceDB-2.0.lua |
05:39.35 | Kaelten | thats just weird because I'm not getting the errors |
05:39.44 | hyperChipmunk | line 1235 of AceConsole-2.0.lua |
05:39.50 | hyperChipmunk | hm, sec |
05:40.10 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
05:40.12 | hyperChipmunk | all U's on the svn |
05:40.14 | hyperChipmunk | no conflicts |
05:40.34 | hyperChipmunk | lemme nuke the SV |
05:40.40 | Kaelten | wait |
05:41.03 | Kaelten | does oUF pull from the alpha branch or from the trunk? |
05:41.23 | hyperChipmunk | lemme check |
05:42.07 | hyperChipmunk | AceOO http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Ace2/AceOO-2.0/ |
05:43.38 | Kaelten | ok all those errors seem to be erroring ont he same line |
05:43.42 | Kaelten | that you're reporting |
05:43.54 | Kaelten | different line numbers but its all the same line |
05:43.58 | Kaelten | AceEvent:embed(self) |
05:44.05 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
05:44.23 | Kaelten | did you try disabling oUF ? |
05:44.33 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
05:44.45 | Kaelten | try fresh checkouts? |
05:45.36 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
05:46.11 | Kaelten | ckknight: why would instance be nil in the external methods? |
05:46.29 | hyperChipmunk | I just enabled the Ace2 in my AddOns directory and didn't load any addons, and still got the errors |
05:46.35 | ckknight | Kaelten, it never should be |
05:46.46 | Kaelten | well thats what hyperChipmunk is reporting |
05:46.49 | ckknight | hrm |
05:47.02 | hyperChipmunk | trying a fresh co |
05:47.08 | ckknight | originating in AceDB or AceConsole? |
05:47.16 | hyperChipmunk | first one is acedb |
05:47.22 | hyperChipmunk | last one is aceconsole |
05:47.32 | hyperChipmunk | er |
05:47.40 | hyperChipmunk | which way does bugsack display them |
05:47.43 | hyperChipmunk | newest first? |
05:47.50 | Kaelten | most recent first I think |
05:47.52 | hyperChipmunk | if so, then it's ace ...yea, you know what |
05:48.04 | hyperChipmunk | [01:45-2975] ...erface\Ace2\AceConsole-2.0\AceConsole-2.0.lua:1212: bad argument #1 to `pairs' (table expected, got nil) --- |
05:48.30 | hyperChipmunk | that might be slightly more-helpful |
05:49.03 | Kaelten | oddly though I don't get any of these errors |
05:49.23 | hyperChipmunk | maybe I have inadequate mojo |
05:49.31 | ckknight | I'll look into it, though |
05:49.42 | hyperChipmunk | fresh checkout, only Ace2 loaded, still get it |
05:50.28 | hyperChipmunk | if I checkout a back-revision, will it pick up its contemporary externals, or the most recent |
05:50.32 | Kaelten | I'm in the same situation and I don't get it :s |
05:50.42 | Kaelten | most recent |
05:51.27 | hyperChipmunk | hum |
05:51.42 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
05:51.48 | hyperChipmunk | maybe I've got an ace2 addon I don't know about |
05:51.58 | Kaelten | clique |
05:52.01 | hyperChipmunk | ooh |
05:52.04 | Kaelten | the newest KC_Playerframeplus |
05:52.53 | Kaelten | those are both playerframeplush |
05:52.57 | Kaelten | err those are both ace2 rather |
05:53.10 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
05:53.18 | ckknight | previous AceLibrary versions had a bad bug which caused upgrading errors |
05:53.20 | hyperChipmunk | clique disabled |
05:53.25 | hyperChipmunk | still error |
05:53.39 | ckknight | disable everything but KCPFP |
05:53.49 | hyperChipmunk | I don't have that |
05:53.54 | ckknight | oUF then |
05:54.21 | ckknight | and then enable OneBag |
05:54.28 | ckknight | see if the errors still occur |
05:54.34 | hyperChipmunk | doing that |
05:57.04 | hyperChipmunk | strange |
05:57.30 | Kaelten | ? |
05:57.53 | hyperChipmunk | got it |
05:57.59 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
05:58.05 | hyperChipmunk | OneBag alone works |
05:58.19 | Kaelten | woot goes me! |
05:58.25 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
05:58.52 | Kaelten | now I'm running Clique as well |
05:58.55 | Kaelten | so that should work |
05:58.55 | hyperChipmunk | OneBag and oUF works |
05:59.01 | hyperChipmunk | loading oUF modules |
05:59.52 | hyperChipmunk | ...works |
06:00.30 | hyperChipmunk | clique...work |
06:00.52 | Kaelten | so everything is working now? |
06:01.03 | hyperChipmunk | everything else moved back....kaboom |
06:01.29 | Tekcub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=408368 |
06:01.30 | Tekcub | ^^ |
06:01.40 | Kaelten | so if you're running all the ace2 addons everything works? |
06:01.47 | Tekcub | support me (and more than "/signed"s please) |
06:01.47 | Kaelten | but if you load the non ace2 addons then it blows up? |
06:01.48 | hyperChipmunk | must be another addon |
06:02.03 | hyperChipmunk | fubar first =) |
06:02.05 | ckknight | it's another addon |
06:02.11 | ckknight | likely |
06:02.20 | ckknight | with an old AceLibrary |
06:02.35 | hyperChipmunk | wait, Ace first |
06:02.37 | hyperChipmunk | then FuBZSR |
06:02.45 | hyperChipmunk | that says fubar btw |
06:03.16 | hyperChipmunk | ace survives |
06:03.33 | hyperChipmunk | FuBar... |
06:03.39 | hyperChipmunk | win |
06:03.53 | ckknight | ? |
06:04.06 | hyperChipmunk | doesn't error |
06:04.10 | hyperChipmunk | oRa... |
06:04.14 | hyperChipmunk | works |
06:05.33 | ckknight | clique? |
06:05.34 | ckknight | okay, it works |
06:05.34 | ckknight | um |
06:05.42 | ckknight | do things before "Clique" |
06:05.57 | hyperChipmunk | I'm going one by one |
06:06.01 | hyperChipmunk | everything from A-F works =P |
06:06.41 | hyperChipmunk | something from I-M is the problem |
06:06.59 | Kaelten | what addons you got in that range? |
06:07.15 | hyperChipmunk | iCU IDCard ItemRack KC...oooh |
06:07.20 | hyperChipmunk | LootSnob...sec =) |
06:07.35 | hyperChipmunk | that's not in svn yet =p |
06:07.43 | hyperChipmunk | so it wasn't updated... |
06:07.49 | hyperChipmunk | that's it |
06:07.58 | Kaelten | LootSnob? |
06:07.58 | hyperChipmunk | MY BAD! |
06:08.07 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: broke it! |
06:08.08 | hyperChipmunk | the addon that I can't make work |
06:08.10 | ckknight | lol. |
06:08.10 | Kaelten | you broke it! |
06:08.25 | ckknight | upgrade Ace2 in it |
06:08.43 | hyperChipmunk | no need; it can't work with thej current API |
06:08.52 | hyperChipmunk | just threw it in my src dir |
06:09.00 | Kaelten | I hope that once the last few copies of those old ace2 libs get weeded out that we won't have this issue any more |
06:09.13 | Kaelten | I'm tired of the library incompatability issues we've been having |
06:10.31 | Kaelten | so hyperChipmunk on another note, any ideas for more features for OneBag? |
06:11.56 | hyperChipmunk | um, let me try it ;) |
06:12.28 | hyperChipmunk | I think it should have Stack, Sort, and TheWorks buttons if MrPlow is detected |
06:12.31 | hyperChipmunk | Stack, at least |
06:12.52 | hyperChipmunk | just along the top there maybe |
06:12.56 | hyperChipmunk | next to the close |
06:13.00 | Kaelten | hrm |
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06:25.38 | Amadeo | hola |
06:29.00 | CIA-7 | 03maia * r3944 10Squishy/roster.lua: Squishy: attempt to fix roster.lua:112 nil error with raidpets. |
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06:31.52 | Kaelten | hows it going Amadeo |
06:32.39 | Mikma | mjc: for gods sake i cried about bartender not working for the whole yesterday night :D |
06:32.48 | Kaelten | Amadeo: do you have any ideas for features for onebag? |
06:32.54 | Mikma | 03:25 #wowace: <mjc> Mikma: /bar micro /bar bag no longer work |
06:32.54 | Mikma | 04:33 #wowace: <mjc> Mikma: bartender is acting up too |
06:32.58 | mjc | mjc: :P |
06:33.01 | Mikma | as if i didn't know hehehe :D |
06:33.30 | mjc | er, |
06:33.33 | mjc | Mikma: :P |
06:33.37 | Mikma | mjc: this is the last commit message: Bartender: This does not work. Don't use unless you are finding the reason for it. |
06:33.53 | mjc | heh |
06:35.24 | Kaelten | ckknight: we got a small issue |
06:35.38 | ckknight | Kaelten, k? |
06:35.39 | Mikma | ok let's have another look at the bug what foox |
06:35.59 | Kaelten | if an addon is set to being disabled |
06:36.09 | Kaelten | its OnEnable still gets called |
06:36.12 | ckknight | hrm |
06:36.23 | Mikma | mjc: btw, if you still wan't bartender to work you can use 2 slashcommands at the start.. |
06:36.30 | ckknight | okay. |
06:36.41 | Mikma | mjc: and the micro + bags can then be hidden with rightmousebutton when the bars are unlocked |
06:36.44 | mjc | I just used svn revert :p |
06:37.16 | Mikma | ckknight: my saviour! what's wrong with my code since it doesn't properly execute commands at login? http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Bartender/Bartender.lua |
06:37.26 | ckknight | busy. |
06:37.50 | Mikma | but can you still help me sometimes today? |
06:38.10 | Mikma | i really really need help since the bug has been there for over a day and i can't find it :( |
06:38.37 | Kaelten | but we can't check the db because thats not going to be initailized until after OnInit gets called |
06:40.07 | Kaelten | mikma is that spost to be an ace2 addon? |
06:40.32 | Mikma | Kaelten: nope but i heard it's rather easy to mod it ace2 |
06:40.42 | Kaelten | ya it would be, just a few small changes |
06:40.57 | Mikma | but, what would it help since it still doesn't work :) |
06:41.09 | Mikma | and, i don't still see the need for ace2 since it's 50KiB now |
06:42.25 | Kaelten | well you'd only use AceEvent, AceAddon, AceConsole, AceOO and AceLibrary, and maybe AceDB |
06:42.37 | Kaelten | those are the ones I see you having a use for in that |
06:43.15 | Mikma | people expect me to ace2'd it... so i think i should but i really don't see any reasons for it :D |
06:43.29 | Mikma | but first i need to find out the reason why it won't work at all |
06:43.35 | Kaelten | part of it is for ease of coding : |
06:43.37 | Mikma | so i can start on putting some featuers bavk in |
06:43.38 | Kaelten | ) |
06:44.11 | Mikma | well, i hacked the blizz's original Grid-code and i think i did one good job at it :D |
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06:44.41 | Kaelten | well the first thing I'd check is that your Enable method might not be being called until after PEW and that means that OnEvent would never be called |
06:44.49 | Mikma | Kaelten: can you remember when i cried here about button:Hide() and Button:Show() not working properly with empty slots with keybinds in them? |
06:45.07 | Kaelten | err... maybe |
06:45.09 | Kaelten | heya MoonWolf |
06:45.23 | MoonWolf | hello people. |
06:45.31 | Mikma | Kaelten: ok, 2 screenshots |
06:45.41 | Mikma | Kaelten: this is when i login to game with no addons enabled http://wow.reaktio.net/show1.jpg |
06:45.59 | Mikma | everything's ok, buttons which are empty are invisible, including keybinds for them |
06:46.19 | Mikma | Kaelten: this is after i do :Show() on the empty buttons: http://wow.reaktio.net/show2.jpg |
06:46.47 | Mikma | i managed to fix that! :D and i'm superhappy about it |
06:47.02 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Bartender/BarFuncs.lua |
06:47.11 | Mikma | it's there on function BonusActionBar_OnEvent() |
06:47.13 | Kaelten | ckknight: any idea about how to get the standby thing working? |
06:47.26 | Mikma | if ( HasAction(ActionButton_GetPagedID(button)) ) then |
06:47.27 | Mikma | :D |
06:47.37 | ckknight | yes, by fixing it |
06:47.38 | Mikma | if button has id then show! simple lol |
06:47.51 | Kaelten | lol |
06:48.10 | Kaelten | well I'm just talking about with the not being able to reliably access addon.db |
06:48.15 | Mikma | goddamn i almost started hitting my head on the wall when i figured that out |
06:48.20 | Kaelten | mikma hrm cool |
06:48.39 | MoonWolf | 3 more people and we have more members in wowace then in wowi-lounge..... that just isnt right. |
06:48.58 | Kaelten | lol |
06:49.12 | Kaelten | it isn't bad though |
06:49.44 | Mikma | MoonWolf: i can pop up 3 dummys here ;) |
06:49.55 | ckknight | Kaelten, addon.db should always be accessible after ADDON_LOADED |
06:49.58 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
06:50.05 | ckknight | wel, and if RegisterDB was called |
06:50.06 | Kaelten | but its not. |
06:50.07 | Mikma | who me? nooooo :D |
06:50.11 | Kaelten | exactlly |
06:50.11 | ckknight | Kaelten, pastebin |
06:50.17 | ckknight | um |
06:50.22 | ckknight | what do you mean, exactly? |
06:50.54 | ckknight | you doing RegisterDB in OnInitialize, aren't you |
06:51.03 | Kaelten | yes |
06:51.06 | ckknight | I see |
06:51.11 | Kaelten | but after I call self.super |
06:51.15 | Kaelten | .initialize |
06:51.39 | ckknight | hrm |
06:51.47 | ckknight | figured out a flaw in the system... |
06:51.51 | Kaelten | ? |
06:52.00 | Amadeo | Thrae, there? |
06:52.04 | ckknight | if it's after ADDON_LOADED, :OnEnable() is called directly by OnInitialize |
06:52.14 | ckknight | e.g. LoD addon |
06:52.46 | ckknight | if you do self.super.OnInitialize, then your OnEnabled code is executed before your OnInitialize code. |
06:52.48 | Kaelten | right and we just need to put a check in those areas that if addon.db.standby then |
06:53.04 | Amadeo | TinyTip will take any anchor command.../ttip anchor argh! will set the anchor to "ARGH!" |
06:53.08 | Amadeo | haha |
06:53.08 | Kaelten | right which means self.supper.OnInitialize needs to be moved to the bottom of the oninitalize block |
06:53.19 | Mikma | Amadeo: hehe cool |
06:53.24 | ckknight | but that violates OO standards, Kael |
06:53.32 | Kaelten | thats true |
06:53.45 | ckknight | I'll figure out a way... |
06:53.57 | Amadeo | Mikma: I wish the offsetcursor faded like cursor did |
06:54.03 | ckknight | basically, it has to fire once the OnInitialize is fully done |
06:54.20 | Kaelten | talking about OnEnable? |
06:54.25 | ckknight | yes |
06:54.31 | Kaelten | k |
06:54.33 | Kaelten | hrm |
06:54.38 | ckknight | and the registration for OnEnable |
06:55.01 | Kaelten | well one way would be to have a manager function that just calls addon:OnIntiailze and then does the setup code |
06:55.07 | Kaelten | for onenable that is |
06:55.28 | ckknight | I don't know what you mean |
06:56.06 | ckknight | oh |
06:56.06 | ckknight | hrm |
06:56.07 | ckknight | maybe. |
06:56.29 | ckknight | yea, that'd work... |
06:56.32 | ckknight | hacking... |
06:56.39 | Kaelten | basically I think you could just move the OnEnable code from OnIntialize to InitializeAddon |
06:57.09 | Kaelten | after OnInitialize gets called |
06:57.18 | Amadeo | Kaelten: any luck on that OneBag optimization? |
06:57.25 | Kaelten | amadeo which one? |
06:57.49 | Mikma | i think i'll have to pop the .xml back soon and check is there something wrong with my OnEvent |
06:58.11 | Mikma | since the addon doesn't properly execute the functions at login, that means there's something wrong :) |
06:58.44 | ckknight | yea, that got it, Kael |
06:58.49 | Amadeo | Kaelten: I dunno, whatever is making Mr Plow laggy :) |
06:59.40 | Kaelten | ckknight: then we can reliably check addon.db, and if it doesn't exisit then we can call OnEnable |
06:59.53 | Kaelten | and if it does then we check addon.db.profile.standby |
07:00.09 | Kaelten | which I'm assuming where that info is stored |
07:01.05 | Kaelten | amadeo I'm not seeing much lag really |
07:01.22 | Kaelten | I'm seeing 2 or 3 change at a time |
07:01.32 | ckknight | Kaelten, it checks :IsEnabled() |
07:01.33 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3945 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - now calls/registers OnEnable _after_ OnInitialize |
07:01.36 | Kaelten | so it can't be too bad |
07:01.39 | ckknight | it already does that |
07:01.48 | ckknight | it only was weird cause you had RegisterDB in the initialize |
07:01.52 | ckknight | now it's all good |
07:02.21 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r3946 10Ace2/ (AceDB-standby-2.lua AceDB-standby-3.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceDB-standby-2.lua and AceDB-standby-3.lua |
07:02.24 | Kaelten | updating and testing |
07:02.40 | Kaelten | so is there any point in calling self.super.OnInitialize anymore? |
07:03.39 | Kaelten | ckknight: after updating I get this: [02:03-567] AceAddon: AceAddon-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0 |
07:03.39 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
07:03.57 | ckknight | there is a point, Kael |
07:04.07 | ckknight | it has to be called in order to get OnEnable to fire |
07:05.08 | Kaelten | hrm I see another way of doing it compared to what you did that would negate the need for that |
07:05.32 | ckknight | no issues here, Kael |
07:05.43 | ckknight | _no_ |
07:05.45 | Kaelten | well I purposely updated a later loading copy |
07:06.03 | ckknight | the point of the super call is to purposely make OnEnable occur |
07:06.14 | ckknight | without it, it's manual |
07:06.18 | Kaelten | hrm true |
07:06.20 | ckknight | that's the point |
07:06.21 | Kaelten | forgot about that |
07:06.25 | ckknight | it's so you can do it manually |
07:06.31 | ckknight | cause it'd be very easy to make it automatic |
07:06.33 | Mikma | lol Bartender doesn't work even with .xml |
07:06.39 | ckknight | it's just not what we want |
07:06.44 | Kaelten | [02:03-567] OneBag\AceAddon\AceAddon-2.0.lua:343: attempt to index a nil value |
07:06.49 | Kaelten | thats the source of it erroring btw |
07:07.17 | ckknight | odd |
07:07.22 | Kaelten | I updated OneBag's code but not my other addons code, however all the other addons have new enough code where we sohuldn't have any upgrade issues |
07:07.23 | ckknight | that's from the external function |
07:07.27 | Kaelten | yep |
07:07.29 | Mikma | i'm having a feeling i miss a ; somewhere or something |
07:07.32 | ckknight | instance must've ben nil |
07:07.34 | ckknight | benn* |
07:07.37 | ckknight | been* |
07:07.38 | Kaelten | yep |
07:07.43 | ckknight | which is wrong. |
07:08.07 | Kaelten | yep, which means its an upgrade issue |
07:08.19 | ckknight | possibly. |
07:08.33 | ckknight | okay, right at there, change AceEvent = instance to AceEvent = AceLibrary(major) |
07:08.37 | ckknight | see what happens |
07:09.18 | Kaelten | that error went away but now I have this one |
07:09.19 | Kaelten | [02:08-568] OneBag\AceAddon\AceAddon-2.0.lua:407: attempt to index a nil value |
07:09.19 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
07:09.37 | ckknight | wtf |
07:09.41 | ckknight | okay, hacking AceLibrary |
07:10.40 | Kaelten | hrm |
07:11.11 | Kaelten | when does external get called? |
07:11.45 | ckknight | 2 places |
07:11.56 | ckknight | when your lib gets registered, it calls it for every existing lib |
07:12.08 | ckknight | and when a new lib gets registered, it gets called |
07:12.36 | ckknight | lol |
07:12.39 | ckknight | found the issue |
07:12.41 | Kaelten | changing line 347 to this AceConsole = AceLibrary(major) |
07:12.42 | ckknight | blast |
07:12.45 | Kaelten | fixed it |
07:12.50 | Kaelten | whats the issue? |
07:13.05 | Thrae|WoW | About Warmup...if I do stuff like have 3 tables which I use at ADDON_LOADED then nil out, and nil about 5 different functions, will that make my addon appear "larger" then it really is? |
07:13.16 | ckknight | "my bad" |
07:13.21 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3947 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - fixed external issue |
07:13.27 | ckknight | forgot to pass instance when your lib upgrades |
07:13.27 | Kaelten | simple mistake type thing? |
07:13.32 | Kaelten | lmao |
07:13.36 | Kaelten | that'll do it eh? |
07:13.39 | ckknight | yep. |
07:13.49 | ckknight | that's a major bug :-P |
07:13.58 | ckknight | caused chip's errors earlier |
07:14.16 | ckknight | Thrae|WoW, technically, yes. |
07:14.41 | Kaelten | ok got the work and no errors |
07:14.46 | ckknight | right |
07:14.48 | Kaelten | however its still calling on enable |
07:15.00 | ckknight | um |
07:15.04 | ckknight | badness |
07:15.08 | ckknight | okay |
07:15.10 | ckknight | in your code |
07:15.13 | ckknight | after registerdb |
07:15.20 | ckknight | do print(self:IsEnabled()) |
07:16.29 | Kaelten | says true |
07:16.35 | Kaelten | however when I do /ob it says disabled |
07:16.52 | ckknight | okay... |
07:16.55 | ckknight | testing. |
07:17.52 | Kaelten | other options are saving properly |
07:18.06 | ckknight | okay, seems to be an issue with :RegisterDB not explicitly knowing it's hit ADDON_LOADED yet. |
07:18.19 | ckknight | omg tangled web |
07:18.31 | Kaelten | lmao |
07:18.37 | Kaelten | and thats why we're in a beta mode :) |
07:18.46 | Kaelten | because I'm going to churn out addons until we find all these damned bugs! |
07:19.22 | ckknight | yep |
07:19.23 | ckknight | working. |
07:19.38 | ckknight | important thing is I'm writing unit tests for each bug we run in to |
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07:20.32 | Kaelten | heh the unit tests are getting truely impressive in pure quantity |
07:21.37 | ckknight | yea |
07:21.51 | ckknight | you know what it means when all unit tests go green? |
07:22.05 | ckknight | (green meaning pass) |
07:22.31 | ckknight | means we need to write more unit tests |
07:22.46 | Kaelten | heh |
07:23.16 | Elkano | ^^ |
07:27.30 | Mikma | soon i have changed everything back the way it was and still the addon won't seem to work |
07:27.36 | Elkano | ok, google has indexed the first chinese page for ElkBuffBar :) |
07:28.02 | Kaelten | neat |
07:29.42 | hyperChipmunk | 03:13 <@ckknight> that's a major bug :-P |
07:29.43 | hyperChipmunk | 03:13 <@ckknight> caused chip's errors earlier |
07:29.49 | hyperChipmunk | does this mean it's not my fault anymore? |
07:30.53 | Elkano | I wonder if I should put it onto svn... since it's not aced (yet? ;) ) |
07:30.58 | Kaelten | yep |
07:31.01 | Kaelten | not your fault chip |
07:31.04 | Kaelten | its ck's |
07:31.16 | hyperChipmunk | Elkano: yes |
07:31.20 | hyperChipmunk | i had to go to wowi! |
07:31.22 | Kaelten | you're welcome too if you'd like |
07:31.36 | Kaelten | oh elkano, you looked at Ace2 yet? |
07:31.42 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: good, I can rest easily then |
07:31.47 | Kaelten | lol |
07:31.50 | Kaelten | like you cared anyway |
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07:32.02 | Kaelten | hehe |
07:32.02 | sedatedChipmunk | I care now that it isn't my fault |
07:32.16 | Elkano | not yet, but that's the reason why I've added the "(yet? ;) )" ^^ |
07:32.29 | sedatedChipmunk | Elkano: that addon rules |
07:32.32 | sedatedChipmunk | it better go in the svn |
07:33.00 | sedatedChipmunk | the ace project must lay claim to all cool addons if it can |
07:33.15 | Kaelten | lol |
07:33.16 | sedatedChipmunk | so we can say, 'yep, that's ours; we totally did that' |
07:33.23 | Elkano | ok, if someone introduces me into the maic of externals... ;) |
07:33.35 | Kaelten | whatcha need to know elkano? |
07:33.36 | sedatedChipmunk | svn propedit svn:externals |
07:34.00 | Kaelten | ckknight: so the problem is that AceAddon's AddonLoaded is getting called first? |
07:34.07 | sedatedChipmunk | do it on a directory that already has externals, and it'll be self-explanatory from there |
07:34.43 | Elkano | well, I've included compost into the addon and I know I should set that file as an external ^^ but how to start? first upload the addon to the svn and than change that file to an external? |
07:34.45 | sedatedChipmunk | e.g. svn propedit svn:externals Ace2 |
07:34.59 | sedatedChipmunk | either way |
07:35.05 | sedatedChipmunk | the external will go in with a commit |
07:35.15 | sedatedChipmunk | or an import, I'd assume |
07:35.17 | Kaelten | well you should delete that folder,s et the external and do an update |
07:35.25 | Mikma | well i switched back to Bartender 1.031b .. atleast it works |
07:35.33 | sedatedChipmunk | right, you don't want the external directory with the import/commit |
07:35.39 | sedatedChipmunk | the svn puts it there for you |
07:36.00 | sedatedChipmunk | what I do is import the project without any of the externals |
07:36.06 | sedatedChipmunk | then edit the externals |
07:36.13 | sedatedChipmunk | commit to apply them |
07:36.17 | sedatedChipmunk | and update |
07:36.27 | sedatedChipmunk | to get them from the svn |
07:36.48 | sedatedChipmunk | from then on, it's just update |
07:36.53 | Galka_ | Let see |
07:36.56 | Galka_ | Lets see... |
07:36.57 | sedatedChipmunk | probably better ways of doign it |
07:36.58 | Elkano | I'm using Tortoise as svn client (or better said as GUI) |
07:37.00 | Galka_ | Druid or Rogue? |
07:37.18 | sedatedChipmunk | but it's the way I ended up doing the first time, and it works =P |
07:37.22 | Thrae|WoW | Druid if you like to hurt yourself, Rogue if you like to hurt others. |
07:37.32 | sedatedChipmunk | and i do it infrequent enough not to care about shaving seconds off the process |
07:38.11 | sedatedChipmunk | the process would be the same; you'll have to ask someone else how to edit the properties |
07:38.20 | Elkano | so I would do a checkout of compost into EBB's folder and then comit EBB? |
07:38.21 | Kaelten | Elkano: go to the property tabs of the folder and see the subversion tab |
07:38.22 | sedatedChipmunk | commandline it's just propadd |
07:38.27 | Kaelten | no |
07:38.48 | Kaelten | on the drop down on that tab you go to svn:externals |
07:38.53 | sedatedChipmunk | you commit EBB with external properties |
07:38.55 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3948 10Ace2/ (AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua): Ace2 - :RegisterDB now works in :OnEnable |
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07:39.06 | sedatedChipmunk | and the svn will include them on anyone's checkout/export/update |
07:39.14 | ckknight | I'm mad at the bunny for being sick. |
07:39.23 | sedatedChipmunk | you don't upload them; the external files are already there in the svn |
07:39.31 | sedatedChipmunk | you just tell where to find them |
07:39.33 | Kaelten | and then type in "<TargetDirectory> <svnLocation>" |
07:39.45 | Kaelten | sedatedChipmunk: I'm telling him how to do it, not just to do it :) |
07:40.00 | sedatedChipmunk | and where they go in your project |
07:40.03 | ckknight | I'll tell him how! |
07:40.07 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3949 10Bartender/ (BarFuncs.lua BarLayout.lua Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: switched the old working version back to SVN in case someone actually uses this addon |
07:40.07 | sedatedChipmunk | well there's no Tortoise for linux |
07:40.14 | ckknight | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/svn:external |
07:40.15 | sedatedChipmunk | I'm doing the best i can =\ |
07:40.26 | ckknight | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Svn:external actually |
07:40.40 | ckknight | yea. |
07:40.41 | Mikma | oh right |
07:40.45 | Kaelten | ya thats a good tutorial on how to do it :) |
07:40.52 | Kaelten | ckknight: [02:40-575] OneBag\AceDB\AceDB-2.0.lua:476: attempt to index field `addonsLoaded' (a nil value) |
07:40.52 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
07:41.02 | ckknight | k |
07:41.48 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3950 10Bartender/Bartender.xml: Bartender: This file is still needed in old version |
07:41.51 | sedatedChipmunk | k, i'm go bed now |
07:41.55 | Kaelten | how does that get called before activate? |
07:41.58 | sedatedChipmunk | nothing is my fault |
07:42.01 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3951 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB - tweaked activate function |
07:42.06 | ckknight | try now? |
07:42.18 | sedatedChipmunk | and I'll go before I manage to change that |
07:42.20 | Elkano | ok, when I import my ElkBuffBar directory, I'll have to import to http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/ElkBuffBar/ correct? or to trunk/? |
07:42.38 | Kaelten | same error |
07:42.46 | ckknight | um |
07:42.47 | Kaelten | elkano correct |
07:42.48 | Mikma | Elkano: that's correct |
07:42.50 | ckknight | wtf, mate? |
07:43.29 | sedatedChipmunk | only Thrae|WoW updates to trunk /smirk |
07:43.35 | Kaelten | ckknight: I get the same error |
07:43.37 | CIA-7 | 03elkano * r3952 10ElkBuffBar/ (6 files): ElkBuffBar - initial import of 1.1a |
07:43.49 | Kaelten | ~cheer Elkano |
07:43.54 | purl | ACTION cheers Elkano on |
07:43.56 | sedatedChipmunk | and there was much rejoicing |
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07:44.45 | Kaelten | wb ckknight |
07:45.06 | sedatedChipmunk | now jsut edit your externals and commit, and everything's peachy |
07:45.20 | sedatedChipmunk | your next update will pull down the libs |
07:45.25 | Kaelten | ckknight: looks like ADDON_LOADED is getting called before activate |
07:46.18 | ckknight | seems so |
07:46.27 | sedatedChipmunk | Elkano: hurry up so i can go to bed =) |
07:46.32 | ckknight | which is thoroughly odd |
07:46.45 | ckknight | since activate is called as soon as :Register is |
07:46.45 | Kaelten | well I jury rigged the event handler |
07:46.52 | Kaelten | and now I'm getting some truely fucked up errors |
07:46.58 | ckknight | hrm? |
07:47.16 | ckknight | do a print(debugstack()) on the error line. |
07:47.26 | Kaelten | [02:46-579] OneBag\AceDB\AceDB-2.0.lua:547: AceDB-2.0: AceDB-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0 |
07:47.26 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
07:47.26 | Kaelten | [02:46-579] ...erface\KC_PlayerFramePlus\AceOO\AceOO-2.0.lua:566: AceDB-2.0: AceDB-2.0 requires AceEvent-2.0 |
07:47.40 | Elkano | win svn:externals seperating name and folder by spaces? or tabs? |
07:47.47 | sedatedChipmunk | either |
07:47.48 | Kaelten | space |
07:47.51 | Elkano | k |
07:47.55 | Kaelten | at least I do space |
07:47.56 | sedatedChipmunk | fine, space |
07:48.01 | Kaelten | never tried tab |
07:48.02 | sedatedChipmunk | i think I do tab =) |
07:48.22 | ckknight | Elkano, spaces or tabs |
07:48.36 | sedatedChipmunk | no, looks liek I do spaces, too |
07:48.51 | sedatedChipmunk | only because Metrognome and CompostLib are the same length though |
07:48.59 | sedatedChipmunk | otherwise I would have tabbed it =p |
07:49.02 | CIA-7 | 03elkano * r3953 10ElkBuffBar/: ElkBuffBar - first try on externals |
07:49.13 | sedatedChipmunk | woo |
07:49.15 | sedatedChipmunk | works |
07:49.21 | sedatedChipmunk | way to not suck |
07:49.44 | sedatedChipmunk | look out folks |
07:49.45 | Elkano | ok, next step will be taging this version and then I'll put up my working copy :) |
07:49.46 | sedatedChipmunk | he's dangerous |
07:49.47 | Kaelten | ck I did the debug stack but can't copy and paste because blizz's chatframe sucks |
07:49.55 | ckknight | :-P |
07:49.59 | sedatedChipmunk | hehe |
07:50.07 | sedatedChipmunk | chatcopy! |
07:50.17 | Kaelten | chatcopy? |
07:50.20 | sedatedChipmunk | an addon |
07:50.24 | Kaelten | hrm |
07:50.29 | sedatedChipmunk | pops up an editbox wiht your current chat contents |
07:50.34 | sedatedChipmunk | it's really crappily done |
07:50.37 | sedatedChipmunk | but it works |
07:50.53 | Mikma | what about ChatLog? |
07:50.57 | sedatedChipmunk | i never really checked for anything else; probably something out there that does it better |
07:50.58 | Mikma | can you copy text from that one? |
07:51.13 | Kaelten | AceDB: 546 AceLibrary :623 AceDB: 591 are the file and lines of the error trace though |
07:51.16 | sedatedChipmunk | i just downloaded one day that I needed to copy |
07:51.31 | Industrial | haste: 1) http://tinyurl.com/oplmd 2) http://tinyurl.com/o9n3e 3) http://tinyurl.com/pcnlo 4) http://tinyurl.com/llkgr 5) http://tinyurl.com/nggxz |
07:51.32 | sedatedChipmunk | and i just leave it disabled 99% of the time |
07:51.34 | Industrial | haste: :p |
07:51.38 | Mikma | Industrial: /poke |
07:51.40 | Industrial | morning |
07:51.44 | Mikma | morning |
07:51.52 | sedatedChipmunk | g'night |
07:52.02 | Industrial | sedatedChipmunk: nn |
07:52.04 | sedatedChipmunk | monitor *off* |
07:52.08 | sedatedChipmunk | really =P |
07:52.20 | sedatedChipmunk | ok not really |
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07:52.43 | Kaelten | ckknight: what the hell changed to make activate bomb? |
07:53.12 | ckknight_ | just throw print statements everywhere |
07:53.20 | ckknight_ | specifically in AceLibrary |
07:53.24 | Elkano | ok, so taging is simply copying to root/tags/<addon>/<version>/ ? |
07:53.36 | Kaelten | Elkano: yes |
07:53.52 | Kaelten | Elkano: but you'll need to manually create the <addon> part of that before you try to tag or it'll bomb |
07:54.25 | Elkano | since it can't create two folders at the same time? |
07:54.30 | Kaelten | right |
07:54.48 | Kaelten | you can make the folder using tortises repo-browser |
07:55.16 | CIA-7 | 03elkano * r3954 10/tags/ElkBuffBar/: ElkBuffBar - Created tag folder |
07:55.41 | CIA-7 | 03elkano 071.1a * r3955 10ElkBuffBar/: ElkBuffBar - added tag for 1.1a |
07:55.49 | Kaelten | woot |
07:58.00 | CIA-7 | 03elkano * r3956 10ElkBuffBar/ (ElkBuffBar.lua ElkBuffBar.xml): |
07:58.00 | CIA-7 | ElkBuffBar - updated to working copy |
07:58.00 | CIA-7 | added some new slash commands |
07:58.00 | CIA-7 | took over positioning |
07:58.35 | Elkano | ok, here you go :) |
08:00.04 | Elkano | feel free to test the new features :) |
08:01.55 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3957 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: Shapeshift bar is back |
08:02.31 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3958 10Bartender/Bartender.xml: Bartender: removed useless .xml |
08:02.34 | Mikma | oh btw that version is prpably the same as some revisions back |
08:02.53 | Mikma | and it will restore db since the shapeshift bar is back, enjoy i'm off to do some hard work |
08:08.57 | Kaelten | ckknight_: I think I understand some of whats going on |
08:09.01 | Kaelten | its another upgrade issue |
08:09.07 | Amadeo | Can someone take the addon called ChatBox and Ace it? :P |
08:09.11 | Amadeo | Oh yeah, and maintain it? hahah |
08:09.22 | Kaelten | na I don't do that second thing Amadeo |
08:09.51 | Kaelten | ckknight_: I'm pretty sure it has to do with the small lapse between upgrades |
08:10.07 | Kaelten | or I could be sleep deprived and out of my mind |
08:10.23 | Amadeo | Kaelten: I'll make you a deal...I'll upload it if you code it :P |
08:10.41 | Kaelten | lol |
08:10.46 | Amadeo | Fair, right!? |
08:10.53 | Kaelten | err |
08:10.55 | Amadeo | hahah |
08:10.57 | Kaelten | maybe one day |
08:11.27 | Amadeo | Don't worry, I don't want to take you away from OneBag/Ace2/KCI/Insert_Mod |
08:11.44 | Kaelten | heh, I do have a handful don't I? |
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08:12.12 | Kaelten | luckily I have a wonderful new python script based off of ck's to help with distroing them |
08:12.58 | Amadeo | Yeah, you code too much! |
08:13.09 | Amadeo | You should do one at a time so they get finished fast :) |
08:13.30 | Kaelten | heh, that kinda works |
08:13.32 | Kaelten | but not really |
08:14.25 | Amadeo | haha |
08:14.33 | Amadeo | Do you have ADD like me? :P |
08:15.11 | Kaelten | I got diagnosed with a very slight case of ADD years and years ago |
08:15.38 | Kaelten | think I should bother to allow the user to colorize the background of the onebag frame? |
08:16.48 | Amadeo | hm |
08:17.07 | MoonWolf | relevant to this channel |
08:17.14 | MoonWolf | elestic tabstops! |
08:17.16 | MoonWolf | http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ |
08:17.16 | Amadeo | I'd never use it, personally...how much would it add to the code? |
08:17.41 | Kaelten | maybe 15 lines |
08:17.48 | Amadeo | I mean if it's just a quick and easy thing, why not? But if it'll add too much, no reason to imo |
08:18.38 | Amadeo | I like how the keyring opens up top now |
08:19.52 | Kaelten | thanks, makes more sense |
08:20.14 | Kaelten | it also gets the same alpha properties and scaling as you setup for ob |
08:20.28 | Amadeo | very nice |
08:20.49 | Kaelten | I just don't see the point of rewriting the keyring to look like ob's frames |
08:21.06 | Kaelten | I say that and I think of an easy way to do it |
08:21.34 | Kaelten | should I? |
08:21.35 | Wobin | hehe |
08:21.41 | Industrial | < Amadeo> Can someone take the addon called ChatBox and Ace it? :P |
08:21.43 | Wobin | Damn you inspiration, damn you |
08:21.45 | Industrial | what does chatbox do? |
08:21.54 | Amadeo | Industrial: More than you want in yours :) |
08:21.55 | Amadeo | haha |
08:22.02 | Amadeo | like... |
08:22.19 | Amadeo | colors player names by class in the box |
08:22.19 | Wobin | Kael, if you find an easy way to do it, do it. |
08:22.25 | Amadeo | and that enchant stuff |
08:23.05 | Industrial | you can only color the class of the players you know the class of |
08:23.13 | Industrial | and thats unneeded because you know their class |
08:23.14 | Industrial | :P |
08:23.17 | Industrial | like, raid people |
08:23.45 | Industrial | and everyone sells enchants differently |
08:23.54 | Industrial | i cant cater to 30 styles of selling anchants |
08:23.57 | Industrial | enchants* |
08:24.35 | Wobin | That's what Fizzwidget's advertising thing does |
08:24.54 | Industrial | yep |
08:25.01 | Industrial | but in 1 format |
08:25.02 | Industrial | :P |
08:25.39 | Amadeo | Industrial: Ew, so maybe ChatBox is making some huge name database |
08:26.18 | Industrial | *shrug* |
08:26.54 | Industrial | hmm |
08:27.04 | Industrial | anyone know some good torrent sites? i always use mininova.org |
08:27.40 | Wobin | m |
08:27.41 | Wobin | um |
08:27.46 | Wobin | thepiratebay.org |
08:27.51 | Wobin | isohunt.com |
08:28.16 | Wobin | that usually covers what I'm looking for |
08:28.31 | Industrial | thepiratebay got closed remember :P |
08:29.47 | phyber | morning. |
08:29.55 | Amadeo | I use isohunt too |
08:30.12 | Wobin | Go to www.thepiratebay.org =P |
08:30.19 | Wobin | Note their new logo |
08:30.47 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1640.new#new |
08:30.50 | Kaelten | tell me how that looks? |
08:31.42 | Kaelten | I could hide the keys and resize it to be smaller |
08:31.43 | Kaelten | hrm |
08:33.26 | MoonWolf | well, the ability to HIDE it would be nice. |
08:34.18 | Kaelten | well what I'm actually doing with that one is hiding the textures on the default blizz's keyring and giving it a backdrop |
08:35.19 | Kaelten | but I can butcher their frame a little bit more :) |
08:35.51 | Kaelten | ckknight_: when I upgrade the other instance of ace2 libs I had the errors all went away |
08:36.11 | MoonWolf | Kaelten, CHEATER.' |
08:36.19 | Amadeo | Question about addons...if you're using an addon to replace one of Blizzard's...will Blizzards load also, like the raid stuff currently does? |
08:36.24 | Kaelten | talking about on the keyring? |
08:36.29 | MoonWolf | yes |
08:36.32 | Kaelten | amadeo depends, but mostlikely yes |
08:36.38 | MoonWolf | :p |
08:36.40 | Amadeo | how can you stop that? |
08:36.41 | Kaelten | moonwolf well what can I say, its easy :) |
08:36.48 | Kaelten | amadeo depends on the addon |
08:37.10 | Kaelten | I can't stop the container code from loading |
08:37.16 | Amadeo | I see |
08:37.43 | Kaelten | pretty much you can only stop the ones that show up in the addons folder |
08:37.55 | Amadeo | Kaelten: Do you use Mr. Plow? |
08:38.01 | Kaelten | yes |
08:38.26 | Amadeo | Do you notice it lagging you more than usual with OneBag compared to others? |
08:38.35 | Amadeo | not sure if it's just me or what |
08:38.36 | Kaelten | one sec I'll test |
08:38.58 | Amadeo | my bags are nearly full also |
08:39.01 | Amadeo | probably doesn't help |
08:39.22 | Wobin | I've never noticed slowdowns in MrPlow that I haven't attributed to lag =( |
08:39.36 | Wobin | so I need people with no latency to test it for me =P |
08:40.24 | Amadeo | that counts me out |
08:40.24 | Amadeo | haha |
08:40.47 | Kaelten | Amadeo: I don't notice any major difference between onebag and bagnon |
08:41.00 | Amadeo | ok, maybe it's just me then :) |
08:41.12 | Amadeo | I'll test it again later today, after I sleep |
08:41.13 | Amadeo | haha |
08:41.16 | Kaelten | lol |
08:41.36 | Kaelten | I'm going to start cleaning up the code more for OneBag and then work on OneBank |
08:41.44 | Kaelten | do you guys think I should write a OneCore? |
08:42.27 | Kaelten | to sorta do the same thing as Bagnon_core (i.e. the dynamic LOD of OneBag and OneBank)? |
08:43.33 | Kaelten | ....? |
08:43.36 | Kaelten | .?. |
08:45.04 | Industrial | no idea ;p |
08:46.06 | Amadeo | I think I have no ability left to think |
08:46.07 | Amadeo | night :) |
08:46.36 | Wobin | Kaelten: Meh |
08:46.41 | Wobin | I don't think it's necessary |
08:49.39 | Industrial | doo dee doo |
08:49.45 | Kaelten | I've thought about it anyway as a place to store common code for the two mods |
08:49.56 | Industrial | Kaelten: make an embed :P |
08:49.59 | Industrial | just kidding |
08:50.00 | Industrial | :> |
08:50.21 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3959 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: version changed, nothing else |
08:50.29 | Mikma | gah |
08:50.37 | Mikma | gotta go work some outside :P |
08:50.42 | Mikma | it's freaking hot in there |
08:51.06 | Mikma | 10:34: 24.1°C (in shadow) |
08:51.18 | Mikma | it's getting warner every moment |
08:51.36 | Industrial | ;\ |
08:52.38 | Mikma | Industrial: you gotta help me later with bartender! :P nobody want's to help me *sob* |
08:53.28 | Industrial | Mikma: Later (tm) |
08:54.11 | Industrial | I need to go to school and fill some stuff in |
08:54.11 | Industrial | Mikma: Ill be back around 1300 gmt+1 |
08:54.22 | Mikma | Industrial: well i will be on much later than that :P |
08:54.27 | Industrial | ;X |
08:54.43 | Mikma | my sister and her husband are building a house next to my mom... |
08:54.56 | Industrial | :o |
08:55.34 | Mikma | now we gotta take the wooden frame off around it |
08:56.03 | Mikma | they did the concrete or something some days ago and it's dry now |
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08:59.42 | Industrial | \m/ -_- \m/ |
09:00.26 | Mikma | omg teh mark of teh devil! |
09:01.05 | Kaelten | gnight everyone |
09:03.02 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4430-1-autobar-toadkiller.html |
09:09.53 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r3960 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua: |
09:09.53 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Razuvious): |
09:09.53 | CIA-7 | * Registering the PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED event since we're trying to do stuff with it. |
09:10.13 | MoonWolf | ammo, brilliant move! |
09:10.38 | Elkano | MoonWolf, how is Mendeleev going? ;) |
09:10.48 | MoonWolf | not! |
09:11.01 | MoonWolf | i should find some motivation somwhere |
09:11.12 | MoonWolf | maybe i can borrow some of kergoths medication |
09:11.38 | Elkano | if you find some, bring some more for the other in the channel... or take some from ck ;) |
09:12.23 | MoonWolf | its working for now anyway |
09:16.58 | [Ammo] | Moonwolf: yeah well Kebinusan tried to make a wipe detection thing for razuvious but he failed because he didn't register that event :p |
09:17.17 | MoonWolf | hehe |
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09:25.38 | Tuplad | OneBag has Bank Support right ? |
09:28.01 | MoonWolf | no |
09:28.11 | Tuplad | will it have one ? |
09:30.02 | MoonWolf | i do think kael wants to make it yes. |
09:32.29 | Tuplad | great |
09:37.19 | *** topic/#wowace by MoonWolf -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT | Ace 2.0.3768 Beta Release [07/01/06] |PLEASE HELP. I'VE FALLEN OFF THE INTERNETS AND I CAN'T GET UP! |
09:45.12 | Wobin | ~58/2.8 |
09:45.16 | purl | 20.714285714286 |
09:45.35 | Wobin | ~41/1.8 |
09:45.36 | purl | 22.777777777778 |
09:45.40 | Wobin | feh |
09:45.49 | Wobin | my wand has better dps than my shadowbolt =P |
09:46.24 | MoonWolf | yay |
09:46.36 | MoonWolf | wands should take into account +spelldamage |
09:46.44 | MoonWolf | and they should receive the full bonus |
09:46.50 | MoonWolf | and then you get a 1.00 speed wand |
09:47.06 | MoonWolf | ragnaros wanded to death by 40 priests |
09:51.08 | Elkano | anyone that is thinking that logic is fun? http://www.ps.uni-sb.de/courses/cl-ss06/assignments/ass-10.pdf :/ |
09:58.22 | haste | this computer dies when it opens a pdf file |
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10:15.24 | MoonWolf | the pdf is fine. |
10:16.06 | Mikma | Wobin: use wand then ;D |
10:16.17 | Mikma | people always underestimate the power of wand |
10:16.21 | Wobin | It's just ironic =P |
10:16.26 | Mikma | yeah it really is |
10:16.33 | Tuplad | wand > bow imo |
10:16.35 | Wobin | I'm supposed to be a 'lock |
10:16.44 | Wobin | with the damage dealing and all |
10:16.46 | Neronix | Morning |
10:16.49 | Wobin | (granted, I'm only level... 14) |
10:17.05 | Mikma | the best method for priests is sw:p, wand, wand, wand, wand, lowlevel fear, wand, wand, wand |
10:17.44 | Mikma | ok gone again -> |
10:18.22 | Slayman | the best for priest is: PW:S Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2, Heal Rank 2 .... tank alive, mana saved, everything's fine |
10:19.06 | Wobin | why lowlevelfear? |
10:19.12 | Wobin | aside from mana |
10:19.20 | Slayman | lower mana costs |
10:19.30 | Wobin | which you shouldn't have a problem with using that technique =P |
10:19.39 | Slayman | and the lower the fear the lesser targets affected |
10:19.57 | Slayman | s/lesser/lesser numbers/ |
10:20.08 | Slayman | mmh that sentence sucks |
10:38.51 | haste | note to self: don't travel to booty bay now |
10:43.16 | Shyva | nooty bay is fun :P |
10:43.33 | Shyva | *booty |
10:46.56 | Mikma | Wobin: leveling a priest like that usually is the best tactic |
10:47.18 | Wobin | but slow =P |
10:47.37 | Mikma | slow? if wand has more dps than spells |
10:47.59 | Mikma | that means less manadrinkpauses |
10:50.05 | Shyva | just go shadow, and power lvl :) |
10:50.22 | Mikma | that's a good way too |
10:50.40 | Mikma | remember to have MageInaLeach |
10:54.11 | haste | Shyva, it's not fun with a L40 char when it's being camped by a 100 L60s :p |
10:54.14 | haste | since the guards are drunk |
10:55.10 | Shyva | ooh ;p go there with a lvl 60 then xD and help them ganking lowbies? :p |
10:55.28 | MoonWolf | Slayman, why the rank 2 ? |
10:55.42 | MoonWolf | whats wrong with higher ranks or greater heal ? |
10:56.07 | Slayman | U didn't come up with that in the firt place moony |
10:56.12 | Slayman | aahhh u mean heal |
10:56.24 | MoonWolf | yeah |
10:57.05 | haste | Shyva, I don't think my shaman/warlock can solo all those alliance :p |
10:57.22 | Slayman | well Heal rank 2 with decent healing gear heals 1000HP noncrit, and costs 205 Mana so you have a decent Mana to hp quote, and i can heal continously without a break for at least 5-6mins |
10:57.29 | Shyva | Your shaman can :o they can do everything! :o |
10:57.39 | MoonWolf | Slayman, so why not heal rank 1 ? |
10:57.57 | haste | Shyva, my shamans spec is: 0/5/46 ie: spell damage/melee damage/healing |
10:58.13 | haste | I can heal myself untill they get tired of beating on me however |
10:58.14 | Slayman | that one heals only about 750 which is too little for raiding as heal hast a cast time of 2.5 secs |
10:58.28 | Shyva | hehe, ok haste :p |
10:58.56 | haste | and my warlock is destrution atm :p |
11:00.12 | MoonWolf | k |
11:01.57 | Slayman | mathematically: rank 1 has an efficiency of around 4.8 (rounded) and Rank 2 has 4.9 (rounded), higher ranks appear to have higher effiency after all, but in the 2.5sec of cast time i can reg about 100-150 mana so u see in the end it's a question of favor ... |
11:02.50 | Gngsk | you must be horde, because last time I checked, paladins had pretty good 2.5s heals |
11:03.03 | MoonWolf | we are talking about priests |
11:03.18 | Mikma | proies |
11:03.26 | Gngsk | right, but what's the point of spamming a 2.5s heal as a priest if paladins are already doing the same thing? |
11:03.47 | haste | and druids :p |
11:04.18 | Gngsk | well, druids have HoTs, so they're usually less likely to just be spamming their healing touch |
11:04.38 | Elkano | priests have HoTs, too ;) |
11:04.44 | MoonWolf | renew! |
11:04.52 | Shyva | renew rocks :) |
11:04.53 | haste | druids in our guild have around 1k +healing, the cast time is shorter, and the mana cost of basicly zero |
11:05.14 | MoonWolf | riiight, so why do we have priests then ? |
11:05.28 | haste | druids can mostly only be used for MT healing |
11:05.32 | haste | since their heals are slow |
11:05.51 | Shyva | priests heal more per second, so when needed they can burst out a lot of health |
11:06.14 | haste | then again, my shaman can burst as much |
11:06.16 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r3961 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Patchwerk.lua: |
11:06.16 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
11:06.16 | CIA-7 | * Added Patchwerk module based on Lute's work. |
11:06.16 | CIA-7 | * Corrected all the stuff he did wrong :) |
11:06.16 | CIA-7 | * TODO: Patchwerk enrages at 7 minutes or 5% whichever comes first, fix that. Add to .toc as well if anyone tested it :) |
11:06.40 | Shyva | flash heal > gheal |
11:06.55 | MoonWolf | isnt flash heal less efficient ? |
11:06.58 | Shyva | it is |
11:07.09 | Shyva | but gheals are always to late in a raid |
11:07.24 | MoonWolf | (has a lvl 21 priest) I never even touched flash heal. |
11:07.29 | Shyva | o.0 |
11:08.02 | haste | how much does the highest rank of flash heal crit for? |
11:08.11 | Gngsk | omg ammo! wipe detection in raz module plz |
11:08.18 | Shyva | depends on your talents |
11:08.18 | haste | I ask crit since I don't remember what my lesser healing waves hit for :p |
11:08.26 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r3962 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua: |
11:08.26 | CIA-7 | Bigwigs (Razuvious): |
11:08.26 | CIA-7 | * corrected metro, Metro typos. |
11:09.12 | MoonWolf | in dm i usually chain cast heal rank 1 on tanks |
11:09.28 | MoonWolf | and sometimes lesser heal rank 3 on others when they need some help |
11:09.35 | Gngsk | deadmines? |
11:09.39 | MoonWolf | yeah |
11:09.44 | haste | raided* :< |
11:09.52 | MoonWolf | why raid deadmines ? |
11:10.07 | haste | we were bored at a LAN |
11:10.12 | haste | we even put up a DKP site that time -> http://der.se/mms/viewnews.php |
11:10.20 | MoonWolf | lolol |
11:10.29 | Shyva | haha |
11:10.48 | MoonWolf | lol |
11:10.51 | MoonWolf | cookie is a whimp |
11:11.01 | MoonWolf | actually every boss in dm is a whimp |
11:11.14 | haste | not when they are red :p |
11:11.26 | MoonWolf | last run the lvl 19 warrior tanked vc en combat stance. |
11:11.30 | MoonWolf | in* |
11:11.36 | haste | we were L15 tho :p |
11:11.45 | haste | the bosses are red for us then |
11:11.49 | MoonWolf | kk |
11:11.59 | MoonWolf | whole team of priests taking care of the mt ? |
11:12.19 | haste | we had one priest and a paladin |
11:12.20 | MoonWolf | some of the "trash" pulls might be pretty hard then. |
11:12.41 | MoonWolf | like the last ramp up to Vancleef |
11:12.45 | MoonWolf | or the ore melting room place |
11:13.24 | haste | the last guy (which I don't remmeber the name of etc) was rahter interesting |
11:13.29 | MoonWolf | http://bin.4chan.org/a/src/1151969597524.jpg |
11:13.34 | haste | since non of us had played alliance / been in DM before ;D |
11:13.36 | MoonWolf | last guy ? |
11:13.45 | MoonWolf | vancleef with his adds ? |
11:13.48 | haste | the one in the room at the top of the boat |
11:13.55 | MoonWolf | yeah that is vancleef |
11:14.13 | MoonWolf | starts with two stealthed adds, gets two more along the way |
11:14.34 | haste | we wiped a couple of times on him ;D |
11:15.12 | haste | and that image - that sounds so wierd when you remove the whole discussion |
11:15.20 | MoonWolf | usually , sheep on add, have on person tank vc, take down one add, kill sheeped add, dps vancleef. ignore the new adds untill vancleef dies. |
11:15.34 | haste | we didn't have a mage I think |
11:15.50 | MoonWolf | sap works too. |
11:15.55 | haste | not at L15 :p |
11:15.59 | MoonWolf | right |
11:16.01 | MoonWolf | fucked then |
11:16.03 | haste | you can't even sap the trash |
11:16.21 | MoonWolf | you might get really lucky |
11:16.35 | haste | we managed to kill him before the adds took us I think |
11:17.12 | haste | It's half a year since we did it tho :p |
11:18.12 | haste | anyway, going to buy myself a new headset now |
11:18.22 | MoonWolf | have fun |
11:18.23 | haste | *waves* |
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11:27.26 | Wobin | oh. |
11:27.34 | Wobin | Doesn't onebag have cooldown indicators? |
11:27.38 | Wobin | or do I have an old version? |
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11:38.22 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r3963 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Patchwerk.lua: |
11:38.22 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (Patchwerk): |
11:38.22 | CIA-7 | * Further cleanup of the code and toggleoptions |
11:40.26 | Elkano | wow, just notice how good google earth's quality of my place is... |
11:40.59 | [Ammo] | google earth, terrorisms best friend |
11:45.22 | Shyva | pff, bullshit [Ammo] :o |
11:46.11 | Shyva | terrorism is just a populair word for a criminal who believes in another god.. :-/ |
11:47.55 | [Ammo] | :) |
11:48.17 | [Ammo] | I mean why scout a neighbourhood in person when you can do it with google earth, or better microsoft virtual earth with birdseye view :) |
11:53.11 | Neronix | Wall of gaming nostalgia hits Neronix for 16 |
11:59.41 | MoonWolf | why scout a neighbourhood when you can buy a map ? |
11:59.57 | MoonWolf | a map, terrorisms best friend. |
12:00.34 | MoonWolf | i loved those games. |
12:00.48 | haste | MoonWolf, ended up with Koss Porta Pro |
12:01.09 | MoonWolf | :O |
12:02.42 | MoonWolf | never heard of them |
12:02.52 | MoonWolf | got a link to the specific model / |
12:02.53 | MoonWolf | ?* |
12:03.33 | haste | http://www.geocities.com/jyroflux/images/porta-pro.jpg |
12:03.45 | MoonWolf | looks nice |
12:05.25 | MoonWolf | how is the sound on it so far ? |
12:06.29 | haste | good, but not as good as my Sony headset |
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12:06.52 | haste | little bit to much bass, but I guess it's more or less a personal opinion |
12:07.26 | MoonWolf | cant you tune the bass down a bit in the driver/software/profile |
12:08.15 | haste | using it on my MP3 player ;) |
12:09.18 | haste | hehe: start -> Programs; I see three programs: Firefox, Ventrilo and X-Chat |
12:09.36 | haste | Pretty much displays what I use this laptop for :p |
12:10.29 | MoonWolf | hehe |
12:10.37 | MoonWolf | its a communication laptop |
12:11.48 | haste | it was only running Ventrilo before, but I decided to move IRC to the laptop since my computer was haivng X lockups quite often for a while |
12:11.53 | phyber | \o/ I might have a trial with the top guild on my realm. maybe i can see something other than lava packs now. |
12:12.16 | haste | phyber, I've been in the same guild since L50 ;D |
12:12.22 | haste | which is the top guild atm :p |
12:12.37 | haste | we have only changed a couple of members since we merged the guild alliance |
12:13.30 | phyber | this guild were looking for a hunter and a warlock. tons of hunter apps, but only me applying for the warlock one, it seems. |
12:13.43 | phyber | unless others did it privately like i did. |
12:13.50 | phyber | guild officers spying on other forums, etc. |
12:15.07 | haste | hehe |
12:15.12 | Industrial | haste: not sure if you got it |
12:15.14 | Industrial | haste: 1) http://tinyurl.com/oplmd 2) http://tinyurl.com/o9n3e 3) http://tinyurl.com/pcnlo 4) http://tinyurl.com/llkgr 5) http://tinyurl.com/nggxz |
12:15.18 | Industrial | :P |
12:15.27 | Industrial | you asked for industrial samples |
12:15.36 | Industrial | All I could find in a short time |
12:15.39 | haste | industrial metal! :p |
12:15.45 | haste | in the style of Kovenant |
12:15.47 | Industrial | there is no such thing :> |
12:15.50 | Industrial | oh uhm |
12:16.19 | Industrial | *think* |
12:16.29 | Industrial | ask MoonWolf |
12:16.30 | Industrial | :P |
12:16.36 | haste | Kovenant is industrial (black at times) metal / avent garden |
12:17.47 | MoonWolf | industrial metal.... that wold be new. |
12:18.02 | MoonWolf | would* |
12:18.29 | MoonWolf | I know of no really industrial metal, most of those things would go under another name i think, dark or speed metal. |
12:19.19 | Industrial | power metal! \m/ -_- \m/ |
12:22.10 | Neronix | Hmm.. WCRadio's live |
12:22.28 | Neronix | And it's metal, metal, a bit more metal, and by the way... some metal :P |
12:22.54 | Neronix | And it's J-Metal right now O.o |
12:23.10 | Neronix | HaMC... never heard them for a while ^^ |
12:24.06 | haste | Industrial, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebfpI9obBOQ << it's more or less avent garden however |
12:25.59 | MoonWolf | Neronix, luku is playing, that guy only plays everything you sendhim :P |
12:26.12 | MoonWolf | TB ftw! |
12:26.33 | Neronix | Yeah |
12:26.41 | Neronix | And I need to listen to EPIC more |
12:27.07 | Industrial | haste: !! -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqYjqyHnVNs&search=dragonforce |
12:27.13 | Industrial | \o/ |
12:27.13 | Neronix | haste: If you're looking for any kind of metal, listen to WoW Radio :P |
12:27.15 | Industrial | _o_ |
12:27.17 | Industrial | \o/ |
12:27.18 | MoonWolf | I mostly like TB because you can have cool discussions about music with him |
12:27.21 | Industrial | _o_ |
12:28.20 | haste | Industrial, dragonforce on solos, but they sound good ;) |
12:28.35 | haste | their solos that is |
12:28.37 | MoonWolf | except for the looks of the band members |
12:28.42 | MoonWolf | thats a pretty good band (kovenant) |
12:29.06 | haste | Kovenant was named Covenant before, makes it a PITA to get their old songs |
12:29.22 | haste | but then agian - most people don't like the old kovenant |
12:30.58 | haste | http://youtube.com/watch?v=sOy0wQaCfS8 << that song is from the album before the one Star By Star is on |
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12:37.30 | Industrial | haste: yeah but there was this ebm/industrial band (lol) named Covenant in 1988 |
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12:40.29 | haste | Industrial, it was the swedish industrial band covenant that sued them ;D |
12:40.38 | haste | which is basicly the one you are refering too |
12:40.55 | haste | and the old Kovenant was symphonic black metal |
12:40.59 | haste | and I'm leaving for work now, bye |
12:41.31 | Shyva | Cyu haste |
12:44.20 | Industrial | MoonWolf: :) |
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12:50.01 | MoonWolf | yay |
12:50.06 | MoonWolf | luku is playing my request. |
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13:34.08 | phyber | http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-en&t=48525&p=1&tmp=1#post48525 |
13:34.14 | phyber | someone put Tekkub's post in the EU forum :) |
13:34.44 | phyber | (asking for blizzard to add a "CTRA channel" to the standard API) |
13:35.32 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r3964 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: |
13:35.32 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
13:35.32 | CIA-7 | * added patchwerk to the .toc. |
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14:14.34 | Amadeo | It's quiet...too quiet... |
14:15.10 | MoonWolf | Gnome dualwielding polearms in slow motion... |
14:16.02 | Amadeo | Pain... |
14:16.08 | Kebinusan | Darmok and Gilad at Tanagra. |
14:18.14 | Tekcub | Darmok on the ocean! |
14:18.50 | Kebinusan | Shaka, when the walls fell. |
14:19.56 | Amadeo | Tekcub: QuestFu looks kinda funny now |
14:20.03 | Tekcub | why? |
14:20.27 | Amadeo | It has green <1> things, which I think represent if someone else is on the quest...but I don't remember them being there before |
14:20.38 | Amadeo | it's to the right of quests |
14:20.43 | Amadeo | without a space I believe |
14:20.44 | Tekcub | okey, so why are you telling me? |
14:21.11 | Amadeo | After you fixed the bug it showed up! |
14:22.00 | Kebinusan | hot |
14:22.01 | Kebinusan | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2839 |
14:22.11 | Kebinusan | someone was asking for something like that a week ago or so |
14:22.11 | MoonWolf | http://home.comcast.net/~gotnks2/WoW/PrivateParts.jpg <- lol |
14:22.12 | Tekcub | okey.... |
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14:22.29 | Kebinusan | moon, yeah we have a private parts on our server |
14:22.46 | Kebinusan | made me laugh pretty hard |
14:24.12 | Amadeo | DAMN |
14:24.13 | Amadeo | That was my idea |
14:24.19 | Amadeo | what server are you from? |
14:24.26 | Kebinusan | Shadowsong-US |
14:24.44 | Amadeo | hm |
14:25.13 | Amadeo | When the honor system was just added in, I told my friend I was going to make a Private Parts...I made the Dwarf and all and got about 100 HKs in a group, but I never ranked up |
14:25.16 | Amadeo | so I gave up, lol |
14:25.22 | Amadeo | I didn't want to level him, he was like level 3 |
14:25.30 | Kebinusan | heh |
14:26.17 | Amadeo | How does a um... |
14:26.22 | Amadeo | argh, now I forgot the name |
14:26.30 | Amadeo | the trinket that changes you into an enemy race |
14:26.36 | Amadeo | ...mind is blank |
14:26.44 | mjc | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/05/08 |
14:26.56 | Amadeo | Orb of Deception |
14:27.09 | Amadeo | Can that turn you into a female if you're a male, and so forth? |
14:27.10 | Industrial | MoonWolf: LOL |
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14:29.20 | ag` | is there any way to detect if you're moving or not? |
14:29.28 | Amadeo | hey Industrial |
14:29.50 | Amadeo | Is there or can you add a slash command or something to idChat that will let you change the language you're speaking? |
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14:36.16 | Wobin | blah |
14:36.40 | Wobin | There's something about using '-smile-' instead of ':)' in a post that comes across as so utterly condescending =P |
14:37.05 | Wobin | "IIRC, you said DP was slightly better than DS. Not exactly the exact opposite, IMO. -smile- " |
14:37.14 | Wobin | . o O (So smarmy =P) |
14:37.36 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3965 10OneBag/libs/: OneBag - testing |
14:38.27 | Amadeo | Wobin: I think using proper smilies is the best way to piss someone off |
14:38.28 | Amadeo | haha |
14:39.02 | Amadeo | Kaelten is pretending to be away |
14:39.13 | Amadeo | but you can't hide things from CIA-7 |
14:40.58 | Amadeo | whoa! NO WAY |
14:41.02 | Amadeo | MiniGroup Pre5 is out |
14:41.08 | Amadeo | andreasg didn't lie! |
14:41.34 | ag` | why would I? :o |
14:41.52 | Neronix | Amadeo's pwnt |
14:42.01 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3966 10OneBag/ (. OneBag.toc): OneBag - Moved externals all under a libs folder. |
14:42.14 | Amadeo | hahaha |
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14:43.02 | Amadeo | ag`: Any plans on Ace2'ing it up? |
14:46.23 | ag` | yeah |
14:46.32 | ag` | Don't think that's going to be hard |
14:46.37 | KaeltenAway | I'm away I swear! |
14:46.47 | ag` | or so've people said |
14:46.55 | KaeltenAway | its not too bad |
14:46.59 | Neronix | ag`: http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Ace2_Tutorial_For_Those_Familliar_With_Ace1.x |
14:47.36 | ag` | Oh, you include all the files in each addon? |
14:47.39 | Neronix | And don't forget that we have an SVN for anyone to use |
14:48.04 | ag` | yeah, I am using to SVN til get addons (haven't put anything there though, yet) |
14:48.09 | ag` | *to get |
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14:49.33 | Tain | OneBag is working good for me so far. I haven't had any issues yet. |
14:49.58 | ag` | I can't scale it anymore ^^ |
14:50.46 | Tain | Scale.. I never tried! |
14:53.27 | phyber | then I'll try it, but the screenshots look nice :) |
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15:03.39 | KaeltenAway | Scaling of Onebag is back in on the svn |
15:03.42 | KaeltenAway | but I gotta run |
15:03.45 | Mikma | yo |
15:04.01 | Tain | Run Kaelten, run! |
15:04.29 | Mikma | :D |
15:04.44 | ag` | nice, gotta update it then |
15:05.05 | ag` | hey Mikma, dunno if you're still interested in MG but I fixed combo points |
15:05.41 | Mikma | Monty: [using a Forrest Gump voice] Momma said they's my magic shoes. Mama said they would take me anywhere. 'Course Mama used to beat me with a rubber hose and call me a retard. |
15:05.58 | Mikma | ag`: define fix ;) |
15:06.04 | [Ammo] | ag': submit it to the SVN |
15:06.11 | [Ammo] | for easier updates ;) |
15:06.11 | Mikma | yeah |
15:06.25 | Mikma | email to cladhaire for account and upload it to /trunk |
15:06.29 | [Ammo] | yarr |
15:06.40 | ag` | yeah I plan to |
15:06.43 | [Ammo] | cool |
15:07.19 | ag` | I wish I knew object oriented programming |
15:07.46 | ag` | but I don't know what it is, so I don't know if it would be good for an unit frame addon anyway |
15:09.07 | Mikma | Dean: [Justifying the 'game' to Mitch] If heterosexual men can't show their cocks to each other, then what the hell are we doing here? |
15:09.55 | [Ammo] | ag': check out oUF2 in otravi's branch |
15:11.34 | ag` | ok |
15:12.52 | Gngsk | What's the best way to check what kind of pet you have out currently? |
15:13.13 | Tain | Yay for new uTorrent version. |
15:13.38 | Amadeo | Gngsk: Just look at it |
15:13.40 | Amadeo | ;) |
15:13.46 | Gngsk | I mean in script |
15:13.51 | Amadeo | haha |
15:14.10 | Gngsk | someone wants to setup a macro that performs different pet actions depending on which pet is currently out |
15:14.15 | Gngsk | guessing for warlock |
15:14.31 | Tain | If you hook DirectX video handling and scan the pixels on the screen you can compare them to a matrix you have stored of existing pet models... |
15:14.52 | cladhaire | UnitModel("pet") is really it. |
15:14.58 | cladhaire | or GetUnitModel() |
15:14.59 | Wobin | heheh if it's a majority of blue... it's a VW, red, a feldog and purple, a succy |
15:15.02 | cladhaire | or whatever the hell it is. |
15:15.33 | Tain | Actually pixel scraping is now some minor botting is done today. Bad bots! Bad! |
15:15.44 | Wobin | ~bad bot |
15:15.45 | purl | Bad bot, bad! No cookie for you! |
15:16.02 | Amadeo | There are tons of bots on Akama |
15:16.12 | Amadeo | I don't think Warden works very well! |
15:16.29 | Mikma | hmm |
15:16.29 | Tain | I just realized for the first time yesterday that people are uploading character profiles to thottbot from private servers. |
15:16.37 | Tain | It made me laugh. |
15:16.38 | Mikma | i should fix bartender but don't have the interest for it |
15:16.52 | Tain | Welcome to addon authoring, Mikma. ;) |
15:16.57 | Mikma | maybe i'll just hang around and scratch my balls |
15:17.04 | Amadeo | Tain: Yeah, I also love the "GM Power" videos...of people running private servers..so unimpressive |
15:17.11 | Gngsk | hmm, not finding anythingn ifor UnitModel on wowwiki |
15:17.25 | Mikma | Tain: well the problem i have is stupid and i don't knwo how to fix it so i lost my interest on doing it ;) |
15:17.43 | Tain | Always remember, if something is really hard then it probably isn't worth doing in the first place. |
15:17.48 | Mikma | i really really had a working hide/show function for buttons too but that's kinda wasted now |
15:19.40 | Mikma | Tain: check out BonusActionBar_OnEvent() in here http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender/104/BarFuncs.lua |
15:20.13 | Tain | I'm overwhelmed with the desire to buy Pirate Bay merchandise. http://www.peer99.com/peer99W/swe/shoppen/steg1.asp?hkat=Piratshoppen |
15:20.52 | Mikma | "got film?" |
15:21.53 | Tain | I haven't been following along Mikma, are you having trouble with the BonusActionBar? |
15:22.24 | Mikma | Tain: nope it's just a fix for the button:Show() we talked some days ago :) |
15:22.30 | Tain | Oh right right! |
15:22.49 | Mikma | Tain: but, i DO have problems with bartender (that version in the link), since it doesn't work at all and i can't find out why |
15:22.52 | Tain | Now does that leave blank spaces for empty buttons? |
15:23.01 | Mikma | nope it doesn't :D |
15:23.18 | Mikma | it checks the space, and if it doesn't have ButtonID it :Hide() them ;) |
15:23.25 | Tain | I know it skips the show, so it loads buttons next to each other instead of blank? |
15:23.39 | Mikma | local button = getglobal("BonusActionButton"..i) if ( HasAction(ActionButton_GetPagedID(button)) ) then .. |
15:23.46 | Tain | Like if you have something on button 1 and 3 does it place 1 and 3 directly next to each other? |
15:23.51 | Mikma | no no |
15:23.59 | Mikma | there's a blank space but no background |
15:24.02 | Mikma | that's the whole idea |
15:24.21 | Mikma | since if i used Hide() and Show() it did leave the background and keybind on |
15:24.26 | Tain | Ok, I .. oh never mind, I forgot you're using the default Bliz bars. |
15:24.26 | Mikma | if the spot was empty :) |
15:24.29 | Neronix | Mikma: Instead of doing getglobal all the time, why not make a local copy of the environment? |
15:24.39 | Mikma | Neronix: how is that done? |
15:24.44 | Neronix | "local _G = getfenv(0)" |
15:25.01 | Neronix | and then _G["BonusActionButton"..i] |
15:25.04 | Tain | I was thinking of something else I saw in an addon. |
15:25.21 | Mikma | Neronix: thanks will put that up and do it when i start coding again |
15:25.25 | Neronix | getglobal does "getfenv(0)["foo"..bar] |
15:25.37 | Neronix | So you save yourself from having to do that all the time |
15:25.38 | Neronix | np |
15:25.59 | Mikma | does the name have to be _something like everyone is using? |
15:26.00 | Tain | That works well when you're doing a lot of getglobals, just have to make sure you're doing it in places where the environment isn't changing on you during that function. |
15:26.36 | Mikma | anyone wanna help me testing out that Bartender version and telling me why it won't work? |
15:26.58 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender/104/ |
15:27.28 | Mikma | the thing is, it won't move the buttons to correct frames at login |
15:27.36 | Mikma | or doesn't load the frame positions |
15:27.54 | Mikma | but i can use /script Bartender:SetPlaces() and /script Bartender:RestorePositions() after that |
15:28.18 | Mikma | RestorePositions will result an error which is something i don't understand but the function will still work |
15:29.05 | Mikma | oh right, i changed the functions back to Bartender_something() just to test is it up with that one, and it wasn't |
15:29.21 | phyber | local version = "1.04 piece of crap" |
15:29.23 | phyber | \o/ |
15:29.36 | Mikma | yeah since it won't work it's piece of crap :D |
15:29.47 | Amadeo | What really takes so long on Tuesday Maintenence? |
15:29.51 | Amadeo | Anyone know? |
15:30.51 | Tain | It takes a while to kill a whole keg. |
15:31.00 | Amadeo | Tain: Yeah but they buffed Rogues |
15:32.00 | ag` | fromt my point of view they can't cheap shot as often |
15:32.21 | Amadeo | ag`: Cheap Shot or Kidney Shot? |
15:32.30 | ag` | ah, I don't remember |
15:32.42 | Tain | Kidney Shot |
15:32.48 | Amadeo | Think it's Kidney...but it depends how much damage the talent increases now |
15:32.49 | Tain | Cheap Shot is from stealth. |
15:32.51 | Amadeo | They may not even need to |
15:33.08 | Tekcub | okey vote time... a color embed... named: PaintChips, PaintSwatch, BobRoss, ColorBlind, or Palette? |
15:33.37 | Iceroth | colorblind |
15:33.42 | phyber | NoneOfTheAbove |
15:33.47 | Amadeo | Tekcub: Dutch Boy |
15:33.49 | Amadeo | hahah |
15:33.50 | Tekcub | I like PaintChips myself |
15:33.52 | Tain | ehn... not feeling a lot from those. Palette probably out of any. |
15:34.04 | Tekcub | if we're using paintnames it has to be Behr |
15:34.09 | Mikma | SmackByBitchUp |
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15:36.28 | Mikma | Tekcub: palette |
15:37.12 | ag` | anyway, looking through the SVN, I must say that you guys are better at coming up with names than the KDE developers |
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15:37.39 | Mikma | ag`: you know, you really should abandon MG2 and start out addon with your own |
15:38.26 | ag` | well there's almost nothing left that isn't mine :P |
15:39.21 | Amadeo | Yeah, MG2 totally changed when ag tookover |
15:40.17 | ag` | I'm not sure if my code is that beautiful or optimized though |
15:40.37 | Amadeo | I really like this guys unit frames, even though they're Discord :( http://users.bigpond.net.au/kornish68/synchui.jpg |
15:41.00 | Amadeo | I wish my fonts looked that good |
15:41.32 | ag` | MG could look like that with no trouble |
15:41.52 | Amadeo | ag`: Oh, I'm sure, I'm just admiring...I probably wouldn't do it up like that though :) |
15:41.55 | Amadeo | I need my basic colors |
15:42.54 | Amadeo | what font is he usin though? |
15:42.59 | Amadeo | just basic chat and such |
15:43.00 | ag` | no idea :) |
15:43.10 | Iceroth | clearfont addon? |
15:43.18 | Amadeo | my clearfont doesn't look that good |
15:43.44 | Neronix | He's probably using the code from clearfont, but with a different font |
15:44.07 | Amadeo | yeah |
15:44.27 | Amadeo | Neronix: Finish your combat log addon yet? |
15:44.32 | Amadeo | ;) |
15:44.37 | Neronix | I'm not making one :P |
15:44.48 | Amadeo | I was trying to volunteer you :( |
15:45.03 | Iceroth | what's wrong with Simple Combat Log? |
15:45.18 | Amadeo | Neronix: I think this is for you to handle |
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15:47.02 | Neronix | Iceroth: It's not so simple anymore |
15:47.24 | Neronix | And I have no need for a custom combat log, hence I have no interest in writing on |
15:47.26 | Neronix | +e |
15:48.11 | Amadeo | Iceroth: Neronix is just admitting defeat to rophy! |
15:48.18 | Neronix | But expect work to begin on NanoStats2 as soon as FuBar2 comes out, or ckknight haxors FuBar 1.2 to to be a mixin |
15:48.27 | Neronix | He's not defeated me yet :P |
15:49.04 | Amadeo | Neronix: I'm riling you up so you make a combat log addon |
15:49.06 | Amadeo | Shh |
15:51.49 | Amadeo | Some Priest tried to gank my 55 Warrior last night |
15:51.57 | Amadeo | I was standing outside of Horde's AV entrance, so I guess I was asking for it |
15:52.10 | Amadeo | I couldn't fight back because she was too close to the guards |
15:52.16 | Amadeo | So I ran! |
15:52.31 | Amadeo | But she chased me, and pissed me off, so I burned Recklessness and smashed her face in! |
15:52.54 | phyber | NurfedCombatLog is quite nice. |
15:53.20 | Amadeo | phyber: I don't like how you have to uncheck everything in your combat log frame just for it to not display double of everything |
15:53.31 | ag` | nurfedcombatlog kills my chat windows |
15:53.38 | Iceroth | i hate how nurfed utility invades my bars |
15:53.59 | phyber | Amadeo: ah. I display it in a new frame so I never noticed that. :) |
15:54.17 | Amadeo | Yeah, I wish all the addons didn't need Utility, because that's the biggest addon in the package |
15:54.29 | phyber | since I find looking at the regular CombatLog is still useful for some stuff. |
15:55.05 | ag` | So is there no Ace guild? >.< |
15:55.56 | phyber | Mikma: this:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_ENTERiNG_WORLD") |
15:56.04 | phyber | is registerevent case sensitive? |
15:56.51 | phyber | (from the Bartender URL you posted before) |
15:57.14 | Mikma | phyber: yeah i think it is |
15:57.22 | Mikma | that's the way everyone else has it in theyr addon |
15:57.29 | Mikma | their* |
15:58.53 | Mikma | it's really interesting how addon can work and not work at the same time |
15:59.44 | Amadeo | ag`: Nobody wants Tain! He's a level 1 Dwarf with tons of money! |
16:00.00 | Tain | Level 14! |
16:00.18 | Tain | And not as much money these days. Spent too much time levelling my rogue and not playing the AH. |
16:00.24 | Amadeo | haha |
16:00.47 | Amadeo | What do you guys use to make WoW videos? Everyone makes good vids these days |
16:01.02 | Mikma | Amadeo: i believa fraps + editor |
16:01.14 | Tain | I bought Fraps, there's probably cheap/free ones. But Fraps was always the common choice. |
16:01.18 | Kebinusan | yeah pretty much fraps and your favorite editor |
16:01.30 | Amadeo | I mean the editor though! |
16:01.33 | Amadeo | I use fraps too |
16:01.37 | Tain | Oh editor. |
16:01.45 | Mikma | adobe... |
16:01.48 | Mikma | can't remember the rest |
16:01.59 | Mikma | but i like it _alot_ and have worked with it couple of times |
16:02.06 | Amadeo | Premier? |
16:02.20 | Tain | I used Womble for a long time, got away from it for some reason though. |
16:02.26 | Mikma | that's the one amadeo |
16:02.29 | Amadeo | Never heard of Womble |
16:02.50 | Mikma | Amadeo: premiere may be abit advanced but it's still propably the best one out there |
16:02.58 | Neronix | Is tinytip working for anyone? |
16:03.09 | [Ammo] | delete savad vars |
16:03.12 | [Ammo] | I had trouble too |
16:03.13 | Amadeo | Neronix: No...but it's not TinyTip's fault, the servers are down :P |
16:03.15 | Tain | I tried Sony Vegas as well, but didn't really spend any time. |
16:03.15 | Mikma | Neronix: dunno haven't tried today :) |
16:03.29 | Amadeo | Hmm |
16:03.31 | Neronix | [Ammo]: slash command won't work |
16:03.44 | Amadeo | Neronix: /ttip default ? |
16:03.45 | Amadeo | or none at all? |
16:03.58 | Mikma | ok ok. let's have another look at the Bartender 1.04 |
16:04.03 | Neronix | Doesn't exist |
16:04.11 | Amadeo | maybe it's "defaults" |
16:04.12 | Amadeo | I forget |
16:04.17 | Neronix | I mean the whole thing |
16:04.26 | Amadeo | ok, haha |
16:04.36 | Neronix | /ttip --> "Type /help nubcake! Lots of love, Blizzard" |
16:04.38 | Amadeo | Tain: I hear a lot of people are using Vegas now |
16:05.13 | Neronix | I deleted everything, including SVs, checked out again |
16:05.33 | Tain | I had heard it was good, Amadeo. But don't know enough about video editing to know. |
16:05.35 | Kebinusan | yeah the guy who makes most of our videos uses Sony Vegas |
16:05.58 | Amadeo | hm |
16:05.58 | Tain | My editing has only consisted of taking a clip and removing bits. Nothing more. |
16:06.12 | Amadeo | Well I have no video editing experience, but I'd like to make something nice...one day...if I get unlazy |
16:06.34 | Tain | Yeah, I have a couple ideas for videos that I think would be awesome. In a fun sort of way. |
16:06.52 | Neronix | Fireworks in TB right now ^^ |
16:06.54 | Amadeo | Tain: Like winning auctions? |
16:07.30 | Tain | I'm not sure a video of winning aucitons would have much of a dramatic pull to it. :) |
16:07.54 | Tain | Although... |
16:08.15 | Tain | It could make for an episodic content type show. |
16:08.17 | Neronix | With the right director, even THAT could appear exciting |
16:08.21 | Tain | Spotlight on an auctioneer. |
16:08.48 | Tain | "Today we follow Bankmulebob as he tracks a Krol Blade." |
16:09.07 | ag` | ok, UnitBuff will only return spells from some kind of filter if you use UnitBuff(unit, id, 1), but is it possible to add a buff to that filter? |
16:10.02 | Amadeo | Tain: haha |
16:10.39 | ag` | Or is it some list that we don't have access to? |
16:11.28 | ag` | It just annoys me that I have to keep my own table with all the buffs in it to get around this |
16:16.06 | Amadeo | Sorry ag, I don't know a thing about coding :P |
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16:18.38 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3967 10/Bartender/: Bartender Making new folder in tags for beta-code |
16:19.09 | Mikma | lol! |
16:19.13 | Mikma | it made it in root |
16:20.30 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3968 10/ (Bartender/ tags/Bartender/): Bartender: moving |
16:23.02 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3969 10/tags/Bartender/ (BarFuncs.lua BarLayout.lua Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: Comitting the nonworking beta into Tags |
16:23.10 | Mikma | there |
16:26.40 | ag` | Bartender is yours Mikma? What does it do? |
16:34.02 | Amadeo | ag`: I have a silly request for a frame in MG2 :P |
16:34.12 | ag` | sure |
16:34.27 | Amadeo | The ToT frame is like a pixel less wide than the target frame, so when I put it above it, I can't ever line it up right! |
16:34.30 | Amadeo | :) |
16:34.35 | Amadeo | well, by wide I mean long |
16:35.38 | ag` | that's pretty damn strange, as width is set by the theme |
16:35.59 | Amadeo | I'll show you what I mean |
16:37.08 | Amadeo | I made rank 6 :D |
16:37.25 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: It seems the Warrior PvP set stats I was looking at were the old ones, they are much better now |
16:37.39 | hyperChipmunk | good deal |
16:38.31 | Amadeo | ag`: Now it's lining up, I'm starting to think I'm blind |
16:39.04 | Amadeo | no wait |
16:39.07 | Amadeo | at scale 1.2 it stops lining up |
16:39.52 | ag` | I bet it's a scale problem and that every other addon is affected in the same way |
16:40.12 | Amadeo | ag`: A Blizzard issue? |
16:40.19 | Mikma | ag`: it's ActionBar addon, allows you to move the bars like CardBars but is really simple and low on memory |
16:40.47 | ag` | Ok, I should check it out |
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16:41.33 | Amadeo | ag`: Yeah, it looks like everything above 1.2 on the indepenent scale makes it a little off |
16:42.16 | ag` | Mikma: Can it show cooldown in numbers and range? :) |
16:42.32 | ag` | or is there another addon for that |
16:42.51 | Amadeo | ag`: I think Bartender uses the standard Blizzard bars, but just removes the crap and allows you to move them, iirc :) |
16:42.56 | Mikma | ag`: sure if you add another addon to show the, |
16:43.01 | Amadeo | I might start using it, actually |
16:43.16 | ag` | Yeah, I am looking to replace my discord action bars |
16:43.39 | Amadeo | Discord stuff is good, but it's just so big |
16:43.45 | Mikma | well the newest version which is not working would rock the world ;) |
16:44.00 | Mikma | it has some frames as "hide when righclick" on them |
16:44.13 | Mikma | and it has smart grid on _all_ buttons |
16:44.22 | Mikma | 1.03x don't have that feature |
16:44.23 | MoonWolf | what does that mean ? |
16:44.27 | Amadeo | What's smart grid? |
16:44.29 | Amadeo | hehe |
16:44.38 | MoonWolf | why do i want it on my buttons ? |
16:45.00 | Mikma | simple, when you open spellbook you'll get a grid to show empty spots. |
16:45.13 | Mikma | blizzard doesn't provide the code to show the grid for ActionButton1-12 |
16:45.21 | Mikma | my code does that |
16:45.40 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender/104/BarFuncs.lua |
16:45.56 | Mikma | that can be used with almost any addon which modifies blizzard buttons |
16:46.03 | hyperChipmunk | Tekcub: you around? |
16:46.22 | Mikma | but you should comment out the bonusactionbar_onevent since usually addons can handle that |
16:46.37 | Mikma | oh yheah |
16:46.48 | Mikma | it also has the code to hide keyringbutton |
16:46.59 | Mikma | much smarter than the previous piece of code i had |
16:47.55 | Mikma | oh yeah that BarFuncs.lua also works with CardBars by removing the stupid border in the buttons |
16:51.15 | Amadeo | Mikma: Can you move all six bars that Blizzard allows? |
16:51.41 | Mikma | Amadeo: the sixth = bonusbar = will be swapped with Bar1 |
16:51.54 | Amadeo | what happens when you swap stances and such? |
16:51.56 | MoonWolf | http://www.thejapanesearecrazy.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=139&Itemid=29 <- pwnzzz |
16:52.06 | Mikma | Amadeo: bar1 will change to correct buttons |
16:52.10 | Amadeo | cool |
16:52.11 | Mikma | just like blizzards ui does |
16:52.40 | ag` | How much KiB/s do you have in a raid in combat using all your addons, etc |
16:53.06 | Mikma | ag`: I dunno since I don't raid anymore |
16:53.28 | Mikma | but with the 74 addons i have i got something like 16-19mb |
16:53.38 | ag` | Just wondering because I am trying to figure out if I have addons that's using too much :) |
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17:00.59 | Amadeo | ag`: Do you use Warmup? |
17:01.20 | ag` | yeah, Warmup doesn't show running usage though, I use FuPerformance for that |
17:01.32 | Amadeo | yeah |
17:03.01 | Amadeo | Well certain things you know are using a lot, like Discord* |
17:03.02 | Amadeo | :) |
17:03.14 | ag` | yeah |
17:03.17 | ag` | I want to replace that |
17:04.21 | Amadeo | I've been using Bongos for bars |
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17:06.02 | ag` | I just need an aced mod that adds cooldown and range coloring to the buttons |
17:06.30 | Tain | Have you used RedRange? |
17:06.42 | Tain | It isn't Aced but doesn't need to be, it's very simple. |
17:06.50 | Mikma | redrange works with bartender ;) |
17:06.52 | Grumpey | not aced but what about !omnicc'd |
17:07.00 | ag` | Thanks, I'll check it out |
17:07.04 | ag` | How about cooldown? |
17:07.05 | [Ammo] | redrange is perfect |
17:07.12 | Amadeo | Isn't range coloring built into the interface now? |
17:07.37 | Amadeo | as of 1.11 |
17:07.40 | Mikma | ag`: haven't checked but as fast as i know every addon that mods blizzard buttons will work with bartender |
17:07.40 | [Ammo] | only the numbers |
17:07.43 | [Ammo] | not the whole button |
17:07.46 | Mikma | Amadeo: no, only keybinds |
17:07.52 | Amadeo | Really? I could have sworn they added it |
17:07.55 | Amadeo | oh well |
17:08.06 | Mikma | i thought so too but was wrong |
17:08.10 | Grumpey | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4836 |
17:08.14 | Grumpey | OmniCC |
17:09.00 | ag` | thanks |
17:09.21 | ag` | Guess I'll try those two with your Bartender Mikma |
17:10.09 | Mikma | ag`: yeah i myself use redrange |
17:10.24 | Mikma | also every now and then i got theorycraft loaded too (text on buttons) |
17:10.34 | ag` | theorycraft is nice |
17:10.49 | [Ammo] | theorycraft is kinda useless imho |
17:10.52 | [Ammo] | one time use only |
17:10.52 | [Ammo] | etc |
17:10.55 | ag` | if it's that simple (redrange), why not add it to Bartender? (Or is that a bad idea..) |
17:11.11 | ag` | I liked it for my priest |
17:11.21 | [Ammo] | it's kinda bloaty too |
17:11.22 | Tain | Differences in philosphy in a way. I prefer separate addons for separate purposes, personally. |
17:11.29 | Tain | I don't like all-in-one solutions. |
17:11.31 | Mikma | ag`: i thought of that but then i realized it's useless since it works fine together :) |
17:11.53 | Mikma | and iriel's code is usually pretty nice |
17:12.14 | ag` | you could've borrowed it :P |
17:12.25 | Mikma | yeah i know but i wan't him to get credit of it |
17:12.30 | Mikma | him/her |
17:13.03 | Gngsk | can any warlocks here tell me what the index is of the felhunter's spell lock? |
17:13.11 | Gngsk | 6 or 7? |
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17:16.31 | [Ammo] | ctrl-6 is spelllock |
17:20.11 | Gngsk | thx |
17:21.18 | Amadeo | I'd say that you should only add a feature to your basic addon if you can do it better than another |
17:27.47 | Amadeo | If RedRange is as good as it gets, then just use that...but if someone can make it even smaller..why not? :) |
17:28.42 | ag` | If it's a small addon I see no reason not to include it in a bigger action bar addon :) |
17:30.33 | Tain | Because not everyone wants it. |
17:30.54 | Tain | So why add code that's going to sit there taking up space. |
17:31.43 | Tain | Of course judging by the popularity of compilations and all-in-one packages my view is probably in the minority. |
17:31.59 | Tain | But I like modular better than all-encompasing. |
17:32.09 | Mikma | *yawn* |
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17:34.04 | ag` | I can see where you're coming from Tain and I hate those packages too |
17:34.28 | cladhaire | i hate em all |
17:34.29 | cladhaire | grr |
17:34.55 | Mikma | cladhaire: help me to fix my addon :) |
17:35.01 | Iceroth | :) |
17:35.14 | Mikma | i don't see the reason why it won't work at all lol |
17:35.54 | cladhaire | ? |
17:36.29 | Mikma | cladhaire: yeah bartender doesn't work anymore, it stopped working and haven't worked eversince |
17:36.32 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/root/tags/Bartender/ |
17:38.03 | Gngsk | clad, fyi the pet thing I was asking about, if you cared UnitCreatureFamily("pet") worked |
17:38.13 | cladhaire | Gngsk: cool =) |
17:39.38 | MoonWolf | http://www.thejapanesearecrazy.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=108&Itemid=29 <- what is wrong with japanese people ? |
17:40.01 | Iceroth | i fail to grasp the idea behind ModuleCore.. what can i really use it for? |
17:42.26 | Mikma | Bartender.lua:228: attempt to index local 'arg1' (a nil value) ... 228 is empty line after SavePosition and before LoadPosition |
17:43.05 | Mikma | it loads the startmessage but doesn't load anything else after that |
17:43.37 | Mikma | oh, the only thing my addon does load at startup is: UIPARENT_MANAGED_FRAME_POSITIONS["MultiBarBottomLeft"] = {baseY = 5, anchorTo = Bar2, point = "BOTTOMLEFT", rpoint = "BOTTOMLEFT", xOffset = 5}; |
17:44.01 | Mikma | ain't that coooool? |
17:46.42 | Amadeo | I really hate Shaman in 1.11, they're stupid overpowered in PvP |
17:47.01 | CIA-7 | 03cladhaire * r3970 10Clique/ (Clique.lua CliqueUtils.lua): |
17:47.01 | CIA-7 | Clique: |
17:47.01 | CIA-7 | * Added Clique:CastSpell(spell, unit) which handles targeting |
17:47.01 | CIA-7 | * Clique:BestRank() and the default casts now use :CastSpell() |
17:52.02 | Amadeo | What's the proc chance on Windfury? 98%? |
17:55.16 | Mikma | dum di dum |
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17:57.53 | Amadeo | I'm serious :P |
17:58.34 | Iceroth | ermh... how is it possible to have function MyClass.protype:SomeMethod() and then have assert(self, "I'm nil") fire? |
17:59.00 | Iceroth | how is it even possible to call instance method without the instance? |
18:02.05 | Galka_ | TinyTipUtil.lua:15: attempt to concatenate local `msg' (a nil value) |
18:02.06 | Galka_ | <PROTECTED> |
18:02.24 | Thrae | Who, what, where? |
18:03.28 | phyber | ckknight: where is the function 'argCheck' defined? Deformat-2.0 is having issues. |
18:03.43 | phyber | [19:01-964] ...terface\Fizzle2\Deformat-2.0\Deformat-2.0.lua:317: attempt to call global `argCheck' (a nil value) |
18:04.13 | Mikma | Bartender.lua:208: attempt to index local 'frame2show' (a nil value) |
18:04.47 | Mikma | wtf it's not even supposed to execute that function |
18:07.10 | ag` | cladhaire: you there? |
18:16.22 | Mikma | mmkay |
18:17.02 | Mikma | i really really don't feel like coding this addon again from ground to up |
18:17.31 | Mikma | id should redo his actionbars so i can delete this crap and forget it |
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18:26.07 | Industrial | I have my own |
18:26.08 | Industrial | :P |
18:26.13 | Industrial | oh, redo MINE |
18:26.15 | Industrial | uh, no |
18:26.16 | Industrial | :p |
18:26.19 | Industrial | why? |
18:26.30 | Industrial | works fine with me :X |
18:27.03 | Mikma | Industrial: shapeshift doesn't work |
18:27.41 | Industrial | Mikma: It does exactly what the forum thread describes |
18:30.26 | Industrial | Guess I could redo it just for fun :P |
18:30.49 | Iceroth | why is pastebin so slow :/ |
18:30.57 | Industrial | And make it all shiny with like 12 bars and options and dragging and shapeshifting and shit |
18:31.13 | Industrial | The problem is time and will :P |
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18:31.16 | Iceroth | bongos *cough* |
18:31.25 | Industrial | yeah, we have bongos for that |
18:31.37 | phyber | Mikma: I like Bartender, what's wrong with it? the version I'm using seems ok. |
18:31.44 | phyber | except the shapeshiftbar can go offlimits. |
18:31.51 | Mikma | oh yeah |
18:31.55 | Mikma | i forgot that one |
18:32.59 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3971 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: Shapeshift now stays on screen |
18:33.08 | Mikma | phyber: well i got new better code for it but it's not working |
18:33.52 | Industrial | why is there BlizzardUI in tags |
18:33.55 | phyber | ah |
18:33.59 | Industrial | im checking out the whole thing |
18:34.00 | Industrial | oO |
18:34.17 | Industrial | since 1.3 |
18:34.21 | Mikma | but, the new code ain't the one that bugs |
18:34.28 | Mikma | it's something completely different |
18:34.50 | Mikma | Industrial: i bet it's just the code they use for the addons |
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18:37.16 | Industrial | Mikma: well its every file of every version |
18:37.19 | Industrial | :P |
18:38.04 | Iceroth | ok, help me out here, what's wrong with this (assert fails): http://ace.pastebin.com/740151 |
18:39.06 | Industrial | Iceroth: 404? |
18:39.21 | Iceroth | O.o |
18:39.48 | Mikma | page doesn't load |
18:40.01 | Industrial | :) |
18:40.04 | Industrial | pastebin.ca |
18:40.09 | Mikma | http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ |
18:41.00 | Iceroth | http://pastebin.ca/78941 |
18:42.57 | Industrial | Mikma: :po |
18:43.04 | Slayman | Thrae, u received my qry ? |
18:43.52 | Slayman | whose originating oRA unit frames? haste? |
18:47.01 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3972 10/tags/Bartender/Bartender.lua: |
18:47.53 | Iceroth | any ideas about that lost self? |
18:53.20 | Industrial | Iceroth: nop, youd have to ask kergoth/ckknight |
18:53.33 | Iceroth | kk |
18:54.48 | Industrial | Mikma: you are not using 'self[something] = name' or 'setglobal('somename', name)' in Bartender:CC() |
18:55.02 | Industrial | Mikma: so the other part ant get to that frame |
18:55.07 | Industrial | Mikma: so its a nil value |
18:55.32 | Slayman | First Semifinal Germany vs. Italy is now going to start. Fasten Your Seatbelt As It Will Be One Hell Of A Game! |
18:56.50 | Industrial | DF()* |
18:56.53 | Industrial | CF** |
19:00.38 | Industrial | Slayman: Half Life 1:Team Fortress Classic |
19:00.40 | Industrial | there you go |
19:00.43 | Industrial | you |
19:00.45 | Industrial | me |
19:00.47 | Industrial | mano a mano |
19:00.48 | Industrial | :P |
19:01.37 | Slayman | 1.) HL is not installed 2.) I don't possess a legal copy of HL 3.) I can't play TFC as i have no skills in it |
19:01.48 | Industrial | :( |
19:01.57 | Industrial | so you dont have a steam account? |
19:02.29 | Slayman | of course not |
19:02.41 | Slayman | i will never ever possess one |
19:02.43 | Industrial | bah :( |
19:03.03 | Slayman | as steam is one the things i hate most |
19:03.12 | Industrial | I never had problems with it |
19:03.13 | Industrial | EVER |
19:03.18 | Industrial | ever ever |
19:03.19 | Industrial | :P |
19:03.32 | Industrial | been usig it since launch (ofcource) |
19:03.42 | Mikma | try Wolfenstein Eney Territory CTF |
19:03.46 | Mikma | Enemy* |
19:03.46 | Slayman | Lucky me hating something doesn't really requires reason |
19:03.47 | Mikma | it's free |
19:03.58 | Industrial | Mikma: yeah but its based on quake so the bunnyhopping sucks |
19:03.59 | Industrial | :P |
19:04.20 | Mikma | shit happens then you die :D |
19:04.26 | Slayman | I'm more a fan of DoD on LANs with friends |
19:04.29 | Industrial | i can not not bunnyhop |
19:04.29 | Industrial | :P |
19:04.36 | Elkano | hmm... why did TFC come up as topic? |
19:04.46 | Mikma | forget about it! |
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19:05.53 | Slayman | the reason was football (yes it is not SOCCER suckers) |
19:06.07 | Elkano | oh, so no game between devs? :( ;) |
19:06.54 | Slayman | well i would invite you all to nice round of Soldier (Soldat) free of charge and very entertaining |
19:07.15 | Elkano | I suck at that game ^^ |
19:07.21 | Slayman | so do i |
19:07.27 | Slayman | but its fun anyways |
19:08.33 | Elkano | 1.3.0? 1.3.1? |
19:09.23 | Slayman | 1.3.1 afaik |
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19:13.53 | kergoth | woot, http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2839 looks promising |
19:13.55 | kergoth | purl, wb |
19:13.56 | purl | It's great to be back! |
19:13.58 | kergoth | ~mornings |
19:13.59 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
19:15.44 | Industrial | kergoth: "Oh well, was fun to make it, but don't think I'll keep updating this one." |
19:16.11 | Industrial | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2126 |
19:16.12 | Industrial | : |
19:16.13 | Iceroth | ah, kergoth, i heard you might know something about this: why does the assert fire here: http://pastebin.ca/78941 ? |
19:16.13 | Industrial | :X |
19:17.33 | kergoth | Iceroth, because you're using aceevent incorrectly. |
19:17.52 | Iceroth | what's the correct way? |
19:18.03 | kergoth | Iceroth, you want self:RegisterEvent("TestTrigger_Event", "EventHandler") |
19:18.16 | kergoth | if you pass a function object, itll call it as is, with no arguments, not passing self. afaik. |
19:18.27 | kergoth | could be wrong, i'm rusty with aceevent, but pretty sure thats how it works |
19:18.45 | kergoth | could also do self:RegisterEvent("TestTrigger_Event") and just define a TestTrigger_Event method |
19:18.56 | Iceroth | hmh.. but it's specifically that instance that i want to handle the event |
19:18.57 | kergoth | or self:RegisterEvent("TestTrigger_Event", function() self:EventHandler() end) |
19:19.03 | kergoth | yes, and? |
19:20.55 | kergoth | "No, they never did turn me into a toad." "Oh. Well that was our mistake then." |
19:20.58 | kergoth | i love this movie |
19:25.13 | Iceroth | ah, working now, thank you |
19:36.05 | Slayman | Thrae come 'ere !!!!! |
19:36.12 | CIA-7 | 03kyahx * r3973 10oRA_Menu/Core.lua: |
19:36.12 | CIA-7 | oRA Menu : 0.3b |
19:36.12 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
19:37.47 | Industrial | dmmit, why are japanese chicks so cute http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=533398683545758639 |
19:37.57 | Kyahx | magic? |
19:38.19 | Industrial | *shrug* |
19:38.25 | Kyahx | and that link doesnt work |
19:38.34 | Slayman | it's a question of taste |
19:38.45 | Slayman | link is wrong |
19:39.13 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5333986835457586393&q=morning+musume |
19:39.22 | Industrial | ::P |
19:39.34 | Kyahx | ah |
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19:46.24 | Kaelten | happy 4th for our us people |
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19:50.14 | Mikma | zomg id4! |
19:50.51 | Kaelten | ckknight: looks like you got the bugs sorted out |
19:54.43 | Mikma | http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5871/242/1600/sharapovacameltoe.jpg <- bad boys pasted this one |
19:55.56 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3974 10OneBag/OneBag.toc: OneBag - Fixed typo in Toc file. |
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19:58.55 | Amadeo | is there any way to get into the admin account in Windows if you don't have the password? |
20:00.51 | mjc | yeah |
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20:00.57 | mjc | boot off a CD |
20:02.10 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3976 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: forgot to change the next 1.033 version for files |
20:03.35 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3977 10/tags/Bartender/: This is a wrong place |
20:15.41 | Amadeo | Kaelten: I was wondering why it wasn't working :) |
20:15.54 | Mikma | zomg there it is! someone has requested a moving unitframes for Bartender |
20:16.07 | Mikma | i have to say "hell no" for myself |
20:16.40 | kergoth | the chatr buddy list rocks |
20:18.31 | Mikma | hey everyone! kergoth fixed Bartender. Therefore I LOVE him! |
20:19.03 | Mikma | kergoth: i really didn't see any idea with the buddylist |
20:19.13 | Mikma | it shows you buddies online. whopee? |
20:20.33 | kergoth | its just convenient |
20:20.48 | Mikma | lol i just realized i have forgotten to update the Bartender file in wowi |
20:20.53 | Thrae | What's a good BG assistance mod that's not horribly bloated? |
20:20.58 | Mikma | i updated the info and stuff but not the new file |
20:24.21 | Mikma | there's also coming up the 1.04 version which kergoth fixed but it might not be suitable for all since it lacks almost all "features" 1.033 has in |
20:24.30 | phyber | kergoth: don't suppose you could fix Deformat-2.0 while you're fixing things? I think ckknight_ forgot to write the argCheck function. :p |
20:24.37 | Mikma | ie. no moving minimap, no actionbar1 hiding.. |
20:24.55 | phyber | although, if it's the same as the argCheck I see in some other mods, I could just copy paste it. |
20:25.07 | Mikma | only thing that is there is 5x better code and righclick on bags and micros |
20:25.36 | phyber | right click for what? |
20:26.53 | Mikma | hide |
20:27.07 | Mikma | hide/show sorry |
20:27.08 | kergoth | the right click to hide thing rocks. so easy |
20:27.19 | Gngsk | oh, I want |
20:27.21 | kergoth | i was about to request the ability to hide the pet bar, too |
20:27.22 | kergoth | hehe |
20:27.52 | Mikma | kergoth: well i'm planning on adding all that now in when you got it working |
20:28.41 | Mikma | and, since the move and lock feature you did seem to be super-easy i think it's going to be nice afterall |
20:38.18 | Mikma | can i load an external .lua file with some command in lua? |
20:39.43 | Thrae|WoW | Only WoW can do that, but that'd be cool if you could. |
20:40.05 | Mikma | yeah :P |
20:40.24 | Mikma | i would wan't to load my layout from another file if database is not found |
20:40.32 | Mikma | but oh well... |
20:41.23 | Thrae|WoW | Well if you make it a global, load the files sequentially, and encompass the entire file in an IF statement |
20:41.56 | Mikma | that's what i had in mind |
20:42.22 | Thrae|WoW | Then the file will get loaded only to get parsed, but then thrown away since it'll never get used. |
20:42.45 | Industrial | Mikma: im gunna run this mofo through all of darkshore |
20:42.50 | Industrial | and then maybe all of westfall too |
20:42.52 | Industrial | huah! |
20:42.55 | Industrial | tonight! |
20:43.04 | Mikma | Industrial: i'd like to see that :) |
20:44.06 | Mikma | hmm, Bartender 1.04 without extracrap is now 60KiB |
20:46.33 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3979 10/branches/Bartender/: Development version |
20:47.21 | CIA-7 | 03phyber * r3980 10Deformat/Deformat-2.0/Deformat-2.0.lua: |
20:47.21 | CIA-7 | Deformat: |
20:47.22 | CIA-7 | - Fixed Deformat-2.0. argCheck -> self:argCheck |
20:47.48 | phyber | Fizzle2 works now :) |
20:50.07 | Amadeo | fo'rizzle? |
20:50.33 | phyber | word. |
20:50.51 | Mikma | oh great "is already working in another url" |
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20:54.10 | Industrial | Deformat? |
20:54.28 | Mikma | how can i clear the entity in commandline? |
20:55.02 | Industrial | Mikma: #wowi-lounge |
20:55.17 | Mikma | Industrial: what's in there? |
20:55.52 | phyber | Industrial: for cool stuff like... |
20:55.52 | phyber | local deformat = AceLibrary("Deformat-2.0") |
20:55.53 | phyber | local alpha, bravo = deformat("Durability: 40 / 50", "Durability: %d / %d") |
20:55.53 | phyber | -- alpha, bravo is now 40, 50. |
20:56.18 | phyber | I use it since it's used by Gratuity. |
20:56.20 | phyber | if hasItem then v1, v2 = self.gratuity:FindDeformat(DURABILITY_TEMPLATE) end |
20:58.36 | kergoth | i want a bumper sticker that says "I'd rather be grinding." |
20:59.22 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3981 10/branches/Bartender/ (BarFuncs.lua BarLayout.lua Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: 1.04 devel version |
21:00.47 | Kaelten | kergoth: lmao |
21:01.07 | Industrial | hehe |
21:01.08 | Industrial | Can druid dual wield? |
21:01.13 | Mikma | no |
21:01.13 | Galka_ | no |
21:01.14 | steino | no |
21:01.17 | Industrial | :( |
21:01.21 | phyber | so, did Blizzard's zoning fix mean I can remove PLAYER_wibble_WORLD stuff from my addons, or is it better to keep it in? |
21:01.23 | steino | only warr, rogue and hunters |
21:01.24 | steino | :) |
21:01.28 | Industrial | booo :P |
21:01.38 | phyber | i think someone said they only fixed it for their stuff last time I checked. |
21:02.08 | Mikma | well i kept using Catalyst and have faster loadings than with blizz code |
21:02.13 | steino | same |
21:02.19 | phyber | ok. |
21:02.30 | phyber | I'll leave that stuff in then :) |
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21:02.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
21:03.00 | MoonWolf | Swords in hand at the bloody fields of history |
21:03.02 | MoonWolf | We rend our blades through dogma and humility |
21:03.04 | MoonWolf | Carve the future according to our will |
21:03.06 | MoonWolf | Set worlds ablaze with our seething fire |
21:03.08 | MoonWolf | Let you all acknowledge that we are here |
21:03.10 | MoonWolf | As masters to rule this failing humanity |
21:03.12 | MoonWolf | Our beings formed in rage and defiance |
21:03.14 | MoonWolf | With strength to trample the weak and the foolish |
21:03.18 | MoonWolf | And so we march with burning brands |
21:03.20 | MoonWolf | Temples of flame on our path to glory |
21:03.32 | MoonWolf | cradle of filth for the win. |
21:03.47 | Mikma | *** Signoff: Moonwolf (foo@bar) Reason: (Excess flood) |
21:03.59 | MoonWolf | not really |
21:04.05 | Galka_ | Mikma, SVN versionm works? |
21:04.20 | kergoth | the chatr guy should make it so right clicking on a player in the buddy list pulls up the menu that right clicking on a player link opens |
21:04.33 | Mikma | Galka_: both of them, in /trunk is 1.033 with all extragoodies and in /branches is simple version of 1.04 |
21:04.44 | Galka_ | Define simple version my good man? |
21:04.52 | Galka_ | no questwatch, no minimap? |
21:04.59 | Mikma | does not have mocing minimap / hide bar1 |
21:05.17 | Mikma | questwatch is there to stay since the default is not movable at all |
21:05.35 | Kaelten | I'm doing evil code condensing :) |
21:05.42 | Galka_ | boo |
21:05.44 | Galka_ | ok |
21:05.47 | Mikma | and people don't have to use it if they don't like the default, there's always MonkeyQuest etc |
21:06.03 | Galka_ | Your minimap code works with Squeenix now? |
21:06.24 | Mikma | there's no code for minimap in 1.04 |
21:06.46 | Industrial | Mikma: l12 |
21:07.05 | Mikma | l12? |
21:07.35 | Industrial | level 12 |
21:07.51 | Mikma | oh right, only 21 to catch |
21:08.02 | Galka_ | 1.033 has hide bar 1 and a movable minimap for squeenix users? |
21:08.07 | CIA-7 | 03phyber * r3982 10Fizzle2/ (. Core.lua Fizzle2.toc): |
21:08.07 | CIA-7 | Fizzle2: |
21:08.07 | CIA-7 | - Initial Import |
21:08.21 | Mikma | Galka_: yeah something like that :) |
21:12.11 | haste_ | I need to reroll irssi again |
21:12.29 | Mikma | some people love the minimap feature of bartender and some people hate it |
21:12.30 | steino | yes |
21:12.31 | steino | you do |
21:12.32 | MoonWolf | lol |
21:12.44 | haste_ | I don't see my highlighst anymore |
21:13.27 | Mikma | haste_: /set hilight_nick_matches ON |
21:14.39 | phyber | /hilight haste |
21:14.41 | phyber | will also help |
21:15.38 | haste_ | Mikma, I miss irssi however |
21:15.57 | Mikma | haste_: oh you don't even use it :P |
21:16.07 | CIA-7 | 03phyber * r3983 10Fizzle2/: |
21:16.07 | CIA-7 | Fizzle2: |
21:16.07 | CIA-7 | - Set externals |
21:17.14 | ag` | I need cladhaire :( |
21:17.42 | Mikma | ag`: try kergoth, he's a god too |
21:17.56 | ag` | Can he like, add me to the SVN? |
21:18.07 | haste_ | ag`, you have to mail him |
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21:18.47 | Mikma | clad won't add nobody without email |
21:23.51 | Wobin | cladhaire@gmail.com |
21:24.24 | ag` | aha |
21:28.07 | Kaelten | hackish ftw! |
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21:30.05 | kergoth | Industrial, gar, idautoattack engaged my autoattack when i sapped a guy, breaking the sap :P |
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21:31.31 | Industrial | kergoth: told you so |
21:31.31 | Industrial | :P |
21:31.42 | Industrial | kergoth: I should svn it and recode it |
21:32.16 | ag` | man, I wish I had the coding skills of some of the aces here |
21:32.19 | ckknight_ | happy America day, everyone |
21:32.24 | ag` | I would make some good code |
21:32.30 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
21:33.05 | Industrial | ckknight: :) |
21:33.09 | Kaelten | I have no coding skillz |
21:33.25 | ckknight | Kaelten, hrm? |
21:33.32 | Industrial | I make errors and repeatedly try to fix them |
21:33.37 | Industrial | and then it works and its done |
21:33.38 | Industrial | :P |
21:33.40 | Kaelten | was responding to ag` comment :) |
21:33.56 | Kaelten | ya Industrial is right, errors I know |
21:34.00 | ag` | :P |
21:34.00 | ckknight | ag`, I have coding skills |
21:34.24 | Kaelten | na he just copies other peoples work |
21:34.35 | Kaelten | and has a trained monkey |
21:34.37 | ag` | I am just too sloppy |
21:34.42 | Kaelten | those trained code monkys are awesome |
21:34.53 | ckknight | um |
21:34.56 | Industrial | ckknight: i want 2 |
21:34.56 | ckknight | do you mean Indians? |
21:34.58 | ag` | I try to make it work fast rather than it being pretty |
21:35.02 | ag` | or efficient |
21:35.15 | Kaelten | ckknight: hrm |
21:35.20 | ckknight | fast = efficient? |
21:35.30 | Kaelten | ag`: I get it working then I go back in and clean it up |
21:35.40 | Kaelten | sometimes I go and rewrite something 3 times |
21:35.44 | ag` | Well |
21:35.49 | Kaelten | KC_Items has been rewritten about 5 or 6 times sof ar |
21:35.56 | ag` | I just go on to the next thing I want to do :p |
21:35.57 | Kaelten | and is about to be again coming up soon |
21:36.15 | Kaelten | ckknight: its a scary concept isn't it? |
21:36.20 | ckknight | yea |
21:36.33 | ckknight | I'll be doing it in a very OO fashion, though |
21:36.38 | Kaelten | you've mode it pretty modular but its still not going to be a 100% smooth transistion |
21:36.40 | ckknight | with AceOO |
21:36.49 | Kaelten | will it support Fubar 1.x plugins? |
21:36.52 | Iceroth | again aceoo2 question: how do i access parent from child class (instance method)? |
21:36.56 | ckknight | I don't know |
21:37.09 | Kaelten | Iceroth: one thats been overriden? |
21:37.13 | Iceroth | yea |
21:37.19 | ckknight | Iceroth, by calling its name |
21:37.26 | Kaelten | self.super.<functionname(self) |
21:37.38 | Kaelten | or rather |
21:37.38 | ckknight | self.super is only for sealed instances |
21:37.51 | Kaelten | hrm? |
21:37.52 | ckknight | such as AceAddon and such |
21:38.29 | ckknight | otherwise call the class directly |
21:38.32 | ckknight | e.g. |
21:38.35 | ckknight | Alpha = Class() |
21:38.40 | ckknight | Bravo = Class(Alpha) |
21:38.44 | Kaelten | oh ck, how bad was the fixes for the bugs last night? |
21:38.53 | ckknight | fixes? |
21:39.06 | Kaelten | ? |
21:39.09 | ckknight | function Bravo.prototype:Method() |
21:39.21 | ckknight | Bravo.super.prototype.Method(self) |
21:39.23 | ckknight | end |
21:39.35 | ckknight | Kaelten, I don't know what you're talking about |
21:39.57 | Kaelten | last night when I went to bed we were working on some of those weird upgrade bugs |
21:40.09 | ckknight | oh |
21:40.12 | ckknight | um |
21:40.16 | ckknight | I read a book instead |
21:40.20 | Kaelten | lol |
21:40.32 | ckknight | Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity |
21:40.34 | ckknight | good book |
21:40.42 | Kaelten | well the upgrading seems to be working for now at least and standby is now working right |
21:40.59 | ckknight | oh |
21:40.59 | ckknight | yea |
21:41.02 | ckknight | I fixed all that |
21:41.08 | ckknight | but that was before you left |
21:41.09 | ckknight | I thought |
21:41.12 | Kaelten | ah |
21:41.18 | Kaelten | I thought there was a small continuation |
21:41.25 | ckknight | what upgrade bugs were there? |
21:41.29 | Kaelten | but that seems to have gone away when updating from the newer to the newest |
21:41.31 | ckknight | oh, the fucked up ADDON_LOADED before activate |
21:41.39 | Kaelten | ya that was a upgrade bug |
21:41.47 | ckknight | was it fixed or not yet? |
21:42.03 | Kaelten | well I updated the first loading copy and then it went away |
21:42.16 | Kaelten | and then I updated the last loading copy tonight and no errors |
21:42.26 | Kaelten | so I'm not sure if it was fixed but just needs to get weeded out or what |
21:42.43 | Kaelten | it was giving more of the libs not being present errors |
21:42.52 | ckknight | hrm |
21:44.45 | Kaelten | was the external function present in RC2? |
21:44.50 | Kaelten | err RC1? |
21:45.05 | Kaelten | or was that something you added in right after? |
21:45.06 | ckknight | no |
21:45.10 | ckknight | right after |
21:45.13 | Kaelten | kk |
21:45.21 | Kaelten | good then that bug never made it in a main release |
21:45.29 | ckknight | grr, can't svn up |
21:45.38 | Kaelten | ? |
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21:47.10 | ckknight | it's just...stalled |
21:47.27 | cladhaire | i.e. the server is locked at the moment. |
21:48.05 | cladhaire | they |
21:48.19 | cladhaire | they've been actively lookgin at the outage for 3 minutes, since it was first reported |
21:48.26 | ckknight | oky |
21:48.34 | ckknight | at least it's not my connection |
21:49.50 | cladhaire | i was in the midst of working on the SVN::Web installation |
21:49.54 | cladhaire | since i had a few moments. |
21:50.48 | MoonWolf | some day's |
21:51.28 | Iceroth | thanks again, got the parent thing working.. syntax ain't the most intuitive but at least it works :) |
21:52.58 | ckknight | it's not parent, btw, it's superclass |
21:53.35 | Iceroth | hmm? what's the diffecent? |
21:53.41 | MoonWolf | operator, Iceroth here needs an OO lesson. |
21:54.51 | MoonWolf | and i need a bed |
21:54.52 | MoonWolf | night |
21:54.57 | ckknight | um |
21:55.02 | *** part/#wowace MoonWolf (n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl) |
21:55.09 | ckknight | I haven't paid the dues to get the schoolhouse rock people to sing |
21:56.08 | Iceroth | i've been under impression superclass means same as parent |
21:57.13 | Iceroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is-a#Examples -> "We therefore define Mammal as a subclass of Animal (we then say that Animal is Mammal's superclass or parent class)" |
21:57.24 | ckknight | yea |
21:57.29 | ckknight | superclass is more correct |
21:57.45 | ckknight | but they're sometimes used in the same context |
21:58.25 | kergoth | i dont likek the use of parent/child. imho it implies a different relationship. |
21:58.35 | kergoth | parenting could be completely independent from the class hierarchy |
21:58.53 | kergoth | (which it is, for example, in Qt. parenting is used to manage lifetime of QObject's) |
22:02.51 | *** part/#wowace ag`_ (n=andreasg@0x57317a46.bynxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
22:03.39 | Industrial | kergoth: you there? |
22:10.48 | Industrial | kergoth: nm |
22:13.13 | ckknight | svn's fixed |
22:16.06 | ckknight | Kaelten, there? |
22:18.18 | Kaelten | whats up? |
22:18.37 | Kaelten | ckknight: yep I'm here |
22:18.55 | ckknight | How did you get the errors before? |
22:18.58 | ckknight | I want to recreate |
22:19.48 | Kaelten | I had an old pre external copy loading first |
22:20.05 | Kaelten | and then I had a current copy loading last |
22:20.10 | Kaelten | pre-external fix copy that is |
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22:21.04 | ckknight | okay |
22:21.04 | ckknight | alright |
22:21.10 | ckknight | so it should be fixed now? |
22:21.24 | ckknight | I'm gonna do more testing anyway :-P |
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22:22.41 | ckknight | connection issues? |
22:22.44 | Kaelten_ | crashed again |
22:23.08 | Kaelten_ | no comp froze |
22:23.54 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
22:24.01 | Kaelten | there we go |
22:24.06 | ckknight | okay |
22:24.10 | ckknight | I'm gonna do more testing |
22:24.25 | ckknight | and I'm in the process of updating Glory-2.0 to use AceEvent-2.0 |
22:24.51 | Kaelten | noooooooooo |
22:24.57 | Kaelten | it looks like my file got corrupted |
22:24.59 | Kaelten | shit! |
22:25.09 | Shyva | dispel them! |
22:27.18 | Kaelten | damnit I just lost a few hours worth of work |
22:35.05 | haste_ | I have a SVN server on my server after that happened :p |
22:35.05 | ckknight | ~comfort Kaelten |
22:35.14 | purl | There, there, Kaelten. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
22:35.14 | Cairenn | ugh, that sucks Kael |
22:35.14 | ckknight | purl sucks |
22:35.16 | purl | For $5 I'll do more than that! |
22:35.16 | Kaelten | I had actually gotten quite a few solid optimizations in |
22:35.16 | Kaelten | damnit |
22:35.16 | Kaelten | now I'm going to be pissy for a while |
22:35.16 | Kaelten | damnit |
22:35.16 | ckknight | um |
22:35.17 | ckknight | cookie? |
22:35.17 | Kaelten | bah, the changes in one file survived but the other file got trashed |
22:35.17 | Cairenn | Kaelten, sweetie! Welcome to the club! |
22:35.17 | Cairenn | <== Queen of pissy :p |
22:35.17 | Kaelten | heh |
22:35.17 | ckknight | no rebuttals here |
22:35.17 | Cairenn | :p |
22:35.17 | ckknight | Kael, it is in these dark hours that we must hold true to our values and respect those who have wronged you |
22:35.17 | ckknight | for only in doing so can they learn the error of their ways and the general welfare will increase |
22:35.18 | CIA-7 | 03handdol * r3984 10/trunk/ (22 files in 5 dirs): |
22:35.18 | CIA-7 | BigWigs |
22:35.18 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
22:35.18 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
22:35.18 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
22:35.27 | Wobin | ... |
22:35.28 | ckknight | good timing, purl |
22:35.29 | Wobin | so slow =P |
22:35.37 | ckknight | ~emulate ckknight |
22:35.38 | purl | ACTION quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
22:35.50 | ckknight | ~beer |
22:35.52 | purl | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
22:35.52 | hyperChipmunk | purl right on the ball |
22:37.52 | ckknight | I am contemplating whether to provide support for FuBar1.x plugins... |
22:43.16 | Wobin | I'd say do so |
22:44.15 | CIA-7 | 03handdol * r3985 10BigWigs/BWL/ (6 files): |
22:44.15 | CIA-7 | BigWigs |
22:44.16 | CIA-7 | <PROTECTED> |
22:49.21 | ckknight | yea... |
22:49.25 | ckknight | I guess |
22:49.42 | ckknight | the FuBar2 plugins'd have preferential treatment for some things |
22:53.01 | hyperChipmunk | O_ |
22:56.04 | ckknight | ? |
22:56.14 | hyperChipmunk | mouse focus |
22:56.31 | hyperChipmunk | was typing into the wrong window |
22:59.27 | FryGuy- | nooo |
22:59.37 | FryGuy- | someone else did a patchwerk module after I spent so much time on it :( |
23:00.41 | ckknight | time for ckknight's handy Ace2 tips and tricks: |
23:00.50 | ckknight | today's lesson: optional chat commands in libraries |
23:01.09 | hyperChipmunk | optional? |
23:01.14 | hyperChipmunk | arent' all chat commands optional? |
23:01.31 | ckknight | using AceConsole. |
23:01.33 | hyperChipmunk | aliases would be nice though; can Ace2 do that? |
23:01.51 | ckknight | libraries that give off info, e.g. TouristLib or GloryLib, could handily support chat commands |
23:02.09 | ckknight | so that /glory bg could list your current scores |
23:02.10 | ckknight | or whatnot |
23:02.36 | ckknight | to accomplish this, we set up our external function that checks for AceConsole-2.0, and if so, register a chat command |
23:02.42 | ckknight | all very easily |
23:03.10 | ckknight | local function external(self, major, instance) if major == "AceConsole-2.0" then instance.RegisterChatCommand(self, { ... }) end end |
23:04.41 | ckknight | this has been ckknight's handy Ace2 tips and tricks |
23:05.24 | hyperChipmunk | do you take requests? |
23:05.32 | ckknight | oh yea |
23:05.37 | ckknight | I should actually wikify this |
23:06.01 | ckknight | still, it's pretty cool, isn't it? |
23:06.30 | ckknight | I'm putting it in for GloryLib and TouristLib |
23:06.44 | hyperChipmunk | it is quite nifty |
23:06.50 | ckknight | also, if you do this, /ace2 list libs will show the slashcommand. |
23:06.55 | hyperChipmunk | why not put it in your main addon though? |
23:06.56 | ckknight | - Glory-2.0 (/glory) |
23:07.14 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, it will be, it's just that Glory-2.0 can be independant :-P |
23:10.07 | hyperChipmunk | what I want to know is how to alias '/bm as' to '/bm autosend' |
23:10.23 | ckknight | hrm |
23:10.25 | ckknight | ... |
23:10.37 | ckknight | no current way that I know of now... |
23:10.39 | hyperChipmunk | without listing it twice |
23:10.55 | ckknight | would this work: |
23:11.08 | ckknight | autosend = { ..., aliases = { "as" } } |
23:12.44 | hyperChipmunk | does it follow the same option = 'autosend' like Ace 1? |
23:12.48 | hyperChipmunk | for defining? |
23:13.34 | hyperChipmunk | hm, no it doesn't |
23:13.56 | hyperChipmunk | yea, an aliases field would be great |
23:16.51 | ckknight | what's option = 'autosend' do? |
23:17.22 | hyperChipmunk | nothing |
23:17.32 | hyperChipmunk | /bm autosend add |
23:17.34 | hyperChipmunk | /bm autosend rm |
23:17.36 | hyperChipmunk | /bm autosend ls |
23:17.40 | hyperChipmunk | etc. |
23:17.43 | hyperChipmunk | they do stuff |
23:17.46 | ckknight | okay |
23:17.51 | hyperChipmunk | manipulate your automatic send list |
23:17.55 | ckknight | I think the option field is just the key now. |
23:18.01 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
23:18.04 | hyperChipmunk | I saw that |
23:18.08 | ckknight | which I much prefer |
23:18.13 | hyperChipmunk | otherwise I would have suggested allowing option to be a table |
23:18.35 | hyperChipmunk | so an alias field would be the way to do it |
23:18.44 | hyperChipmunk | I mean, I could as = autosend |
23:18.57 | hyperChipmunk | but then they're gonna get it twice when they type just /bm |
23:19.46 | ckknight | what aliases will do: |
23:19.49 | hyperChipmunk | and someone will ask, 'what's the difference between as and autosend? they have the same description' |
23:19.58 | ckknight | it'll show |
23:20.13 | ckknight | - autosend | as - desc |
23:20.19 | ckknight | since as is an alias |
23:20.21 | hyperChipmunk | that's cool |
23:20.38 | hyperChipmunk | i honestly dont' care if it shows =) |
23:20.53 | hyperChipmunk | i just want to be able to use it, because typing it out is annoying when debugging |
23:20.56 | ckknight | should it show? |
23:21.03 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it should |
23:21.15 | hyperChipmunk | but it's no skin off MY back if it dont' |
23:21.19 | hyperChipmunk | >8p |
23:21.57 | hyperChipmunk | as long as I can use it in without some yerk askin' questions |
23:22.23 | hyperChipmunk | but in terms of design, it should be visible when the list is printed |
23:23.20 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
23:23.28 | hyperChipmunk | isn't type reserved? |
23:23.31 | hyperChipmunk | apparently not |
23:26.27 | Tekcub | type's just another function |
23:26.33 | hyperChipmunk | ya |
23:26.44 | Tekcub | only the syntax keywords are reserved AFAIK |
23:27.32 | cladhaire | the cub is correct |
23:27.44 | cladhaire | everything else is valid due to scoping. |
23:27.46 | Tekcub | *rawr* |
23:27.57 | cladhaire | guess what i'm working on |
23:27.58 | Tekcub | I almost licked a customer today |
23:28.04 | cladhaire | was he cute? |
23:28.07 | Tekcub | very |
23:28.10 | ckknight | lol |
23:28.23 | Tekcub | cuhbbyish but not fat, nice SnP beard |
23:28.37 | Tekcub | deep daddy voice |
23:30.01 | cladhaire | my boyfriend is playing the techno remix of "I like to move it, move it" from Madagascar.. over.. and over.. again. |
23:30.11 | hyperChipmunk | hahaha |
23:30.22 | hyperChipmunk | does he do the voice? |
23:30.24 | netcurse | i like to move it move it |
23:30.26 | cladhaire | yes |
23:30.27 | cladhaire | its horrible. |
23:30.37 | hyperChipmunk | pwnd |
23:30.37 | netcurse | that remind me one of our raid |
23:30.43 | Tekcub | oh god |
23:30.46 | netcurse | MOVE IT MOVE IT |
23:31.01 | Tekcub | *digs up his Techno Dr Who mix to counter* |
23:31.15 | hyperChipmunk | ooh |
23:31.16 | *** join/#wowace tragywydd (n=Tragywyd@cpe-69-202-110-177.twcny.res.rr.com) |
23:31.24 | hyperChipmunk | link it up yo |
23:31.24 | tragywydd | it's NOT the techno remis |
23:31.26 | tragywydd | remix even |
23:31.28 | tragywydd | it's the actual song |
23:31.33 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
23:31.34 | Tekcub | I wonder where that dissappeared to.... god I need to get my server up and start sorting out my music |
23:31.35 | cladhaire | yes.. and it was cute. |
23:31.36 | cladhaire | once. |
23:31.38 | cladhaire | maybe twice. |
23:31.42 | cladhaire | ~Dr. Tran |
23:31.55 | purl | 3, 2, 1... Dr Tran! |
23:31.55 | tragywydd | ~drtran |
23:32.04 | cladhaire | ~whalestab tragywydd |
23:32.13 | purl | ACTION stabs tragywydd with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
23:32.13 | hyperChipmunk | purl is not to be relied upon today |
23:32.20 | cladhaire | apparently |
23:32.21 | cladhaire | wow |
23:32.21 | cladhaire | lol |
23:32.21 | tragywydd | ~whaleparry cladhaire |
23:32.29 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry cladhaire's attacks. |
23:32.29 | Tekcub | is wadd... uhm... spread acroos clad's face often? |
23:32.29 | hyperChipmunk | ~whalebubble cladhaire |
23:32.42 | tragywydd | Tekcub: WHAT?! |
23:32.42 | cladhaire | I'm working on SVN::Web. |
23:32.42 | cladhaire | we'll see how it goes |
23:33.02 | Tekcub | well you logged in at the right moment and clad glared, I thought you might be the one he was bitching about |
23:33.10 | tragywydd | yes |
23:33.23 | Tekcub | so you are spread across his face nightly, okey |
23:33.32 | cladhaire | so not true =) |
23:33.49 | snurre | ja kjenner en bott hon heter anna anna heter hon |
23:33.51 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight * r3986 10GloryLib/ (. Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua GloryLib.toc): GloryLib - revamp to use Ace2 better. |
23:33.52 | Tekcub | oh, does clad do the spreading? |
23:33.59 | cladhaire | wouldn't you lik to know. |
23:34.05 | tragywydd | he was referring to my comment, lol |
23:34.28 | ckknight | ... |
23:34.41 | ckknight | why does this channel always turn into a convo about gay sex? |
23:34.42 | Tekcub | my manager's new nickname is NotInTheFace ^^ |
23:34.55 | tragywydd | Tekcub started it! |
23:35.03 | Tekcub | cause, uhm, it's all the gay sex I get? |
23:35.11 | Tekcub | wait I got some yesterday |
23:35.12 | tragywydd | Do you want to finish him off, ckknight? |
23:35.14 | ckknight | ... |
23:35.15 | Tekcub | I dunno then |
23:35.19 | tragywydd | Congrats, Tekcub. |
23:35.27 | ckknight | sadly, trag, I happen to be straight |
23:35.38 | tragywydd | I figured as much |
23:35.52 | Tekcub | sometimes I drive by those "Kum 'n Go" gas stations and I giggle |
23:36.07 | tragywydd | you do a lot of giggling, I suspect. |
23:36.19 | cladhaire | and he's playing it again |
23:36.23 | cladhaire | we're even watching a nice movie |
23:36.23 | tragywydd | am not |
23:36.29 | Tekcub | yes... well I see that and I think "rest stop glory hole" |
23:36.30 | hyperChipmunk | it's because homosexuals as a rule feel the need to flaunt it to try to make everyone else uncomfortable |
23:36.39 | cladhaire | <-- not the rule |
23:36.48 | Tekcub | ^^ |
23:36.49 | hyperChipmunk | clad keeps it low-key |
23:36.56 | ckknight | yea, I didn't know clad was gay until this convo :-P |
23:36.56 | tragywydd | <-- doesn't flaunt anything except his superior intellect |
23:37.05 | Tekcub | ckk, you're slow |
23:37.05 | ckknight | surely it explains why he's so uppity, though. |
23:37.07 | hyperChipmunk | Tekcub, on the other hand... |
23:37.10 | cladhaire | ckknight: Really? How'd you miss it? |
23:37.15 | Tain | That's hardly a rule. |
23:37.17 | ckknight | you never talk about it, clad |
23:37.17 | cladhaire | ckknight: no, I'm uppity because i'm an asshole. |
23:37.29 | cladhaire | ckknight: the channel has this conversatino once every two weeks =) |
23:37.30 | Tekcub | he was fooled by all your haire |
23:37.33 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=andreasg@0x57317a46.bynxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
23:37.34 | ckknight | really? |
23:37.36 | cladhaire | but its possible you weren't here for those |
23:37.37 | ckknight | must've missed it. |
23:37.37 | cladhaire | *nod* |
23:37.42 | Wobin | *facepalm* |
23:37.42 | cladhaire | someone new finds out each week or so :P |
23:37.44 | cladhaire | amadeo was last week |
23:37.54 | Tain | cladhaire's gay? |
23:37.58 | ckknight | I know Tek's gay cause he constantly talks about chubby guys. |
23:37.59 | Cairenn | lol |
23:38.01 | Tekcub | why do you think cair calls him "Honey" and such? |
23:38.04 | ckknight | apparently, Tain |
23:38.04 | Tekcub | she's such a faghag |
23:38.08 | hyperChipmunk | they say it's because they're more comfortable with their sexuality and aren't ashamed to discuss it openly like straight people tend to be |
23:38.17 | Cairenn | faghag?! FAGHAG?! |
23:38.24 | Tekcub | okey, just hag |
23:38.24 | cladhaire | Tain: you're a vagina-face |
23:38.26 | hyperChipmunk | but I just think it's impolite |
23:38.26 | tragywydd | uh oh... |
23:38.30 | Wobin | But really, it's all about making other people squirm =P |
23:38.30 | Tain | I'm not ashamed of my sexuality. |
23:38.37 | Cairenn | Tekcub: >< |
23:38.41 | ckknight | cladhaire, don't diss the act of diving for oysters. |
23:38.41 | Tekcub | lag hag? |
23:38.41 | Tain | I happen to be a big fan of vagina-face. |
23:38.42 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: you got it |
23:38.57 | ckknight | Tekcub, lol. |
23:38.58 | Tekcub | rag(naros) hag? |
23:39.02 | Wobin | Sit on my face, and tell me that you love me! |
23:39.09 | Tekcub | I bet Cair is a crazy cat lady |
23:39.16 | ckknight | bag hag. |
23:39.22 | Wobin | That's Kael |
23:39.23 | Tekcub | bag lady! |
23:39.29 | Wobin | OneBagHag |
23:39.32 | ckknight | lol. |
23:39.44 | Tekcub | oh thunder.... I love when holidays get fucked up on people :) |
23:39.52 | ckknight | ? |
23:39.53 | Wobin | hehe, no fireworks for YOU! |
23:39.56 | Tain | Ok I'm going back to what I was actually doing. |
23:40.02 | Tekcub | I don't do the 4th |
23:40.11 | Tekcub | I don't do holidays in general really |
23:40.11 | ckknight | but it's America Day, Tek |
23:40.22 | Tekcub | America can GFY |
23:40.30 | Tekcub | what's it done for me? |
23:40.32 | tragywydd | Tek, Jehovah's Witness? |
23:40.37 | Tekcub | - |
23:40.51 | Tekcub | no, I'm a canadien trapped in an american's body |
23:40.57 | Wobin | America did Jehova's witnesses? |
23:40.59 | ckknight | I'm a Canadian |
23:41.00 | hyperChipmunk | ironically, that's basically what got us this holiday, except the target was england |
23:41.03 | ckknight | oot |
23:41.08 | Industrial | http://www.mininova.org/tor/197730 |
23:41.10 | Industrial | *queue* |
23:41.16 | tragywydd | if you're American, it's provided domestic security, certain civil rights, economic prosperity, and ignorance |
23:41.27 | ckknight | I've sent my American citizenship application form in :-P |
23:41.29 | Wobin | I thought ignorance was inbuilt =P |
23:41.36 | Tekcub | uhm, prosperity? |
23:41.39 | Wobin | or maybe hereditary |
23:41.53 | tragywydd | How many places in America have you been, Wobin? |
23:41.55 | Tekcub | and security? kek, not according to the prez |
23:42.01 | Wobin | A few. Not too many |
23:42.03 | hyperChipmunk | Industrial: dang, I only get 5G a month usenet |
23:42.14 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: see the number of seeds |
23:42.27 | Industrial | that means full download all the way |
23:42.28 | Industrial | :P |
23:42.32 | Industrial | 600kbps |
23:42.36 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
23:42.37 | Industrial | cant wait for the 20mbit |
23:42.38 | Industrial | :p |
23:42.39 | Wobin | yow |
23:42.41 | Wobin | 12g |
23:42.42 | ckknight | if you're a polygamist, do you have a "Better Third" instead of a "Better Half"? |
23:42.58 | Industrial | ckknight: hehe |
23:43.02 | Wobin | hehe, A Better Twelfth |
23:43.09 | Tekcub | for some reason I think "better half" is a stupid phrase |
23:43.12 | Industrial | Wobin: yeah but 5 season :> |
23:43.22 | Tekcub | and it's not the half that bothers me like it does most |
23:43.27 | Wobin | crazy =) |
23:43.49 | Wobin | Is that the top or bottom half? =) |
23:44.06 | Tekcub | wob: vers, so how would we fit into that? |
23:44.10 | ckknight | tragywydd, I think the concept of a legal marriage should be abolished :-P |
23:44.17 | tragywydd | hahah why? |
23:44.19 | Wobin | hehe, my friend freaks out the roleplayers on our server by relating the Story of Solomon the Wise Orc |
23:44.20 | Tekcub | hC gotta find it |
23:44.28 | hyperChipmunk | hurry |
23:44.29 | ckknight | I'm fine with spiritual marriage |
23:44.33 | ckknight | go to a church, get married |
23:44.33 | Tekcub | hum... "Doctorin the TARDIS" I think was the name... |
23:44.34 | Wobin | who vivisected a NightElf to solve a problem |
23:44.42 | ckknight | I just don't think there should be laws regarding marriage |
23:44.43 | hyperChipmunk | lol doctorin' the tardis |
23:44.54 | Tekcub | ckk, I'm not spiritual in that sense, so marriage is meaningless to me there |
23:44.56 | ckknight | keep the government out of my pants. |
23:45.06 | ckknight | they're my pants. |
23:45.09 | tragywydd | but what about spousal rights? |
23:45.16 | Wobin | aye that's the nub |
23:45.18 | hyperChipmunk | pfft, I'll take the benefits thx |
23:45.28 | ckknight | tragywydd, I believe business arrangements regarding that should be handled outside of a marriage context. |
23:45.31 | Tekcub | yea but "marrage" is an easy way to define a pair of people that get special tax bullshit |
23:45.32 | Wobin | Marriage is more concerned with the legal rights |
23:45.39 | hyperChipmunk | Tekcub: right on |
23:46.01 | ckknight | simple solution to marriage: get rid of those damn taxes. |
23:46.03 | Wobin | The secular portion of it, anyway |
23:46.04 | tragywydd | a _lot_ more than taxes deal with marriage law |
23:46.10 | Tekcub | I want marriage rights, I don't give a flying fuck if someone's diety approves of my lifesyle |
23:46.19 | ckknight | there are 61 rights granted with marriage :-P |
23:46.28 | hyperChipmunk | they can come measure my penis if it gives me a tax break |
23:46.39 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk: They might come up short, though =) |
23:46.47 | Tekcub | Peniles Wellfare for the less fortunate? |
23:46.49 | tragywydd | hyperChipmunk: agreed, though I'm afraid they'd end up charging me a luxury tax. |
23:46.51 | Tekcub | *Penile |
23:47.19 | hyperChipmunk | ~whaleslap wobin |
23:47.27 | purl | ACTION beats wobin upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
23:47.28 | ckknight | same here |
23:47.41 | Wobin | "Your Honour, my client has enacted the "It's Fucking Cold" defense in his claim for Penile Tax..." |
23:47.50 | ckknight | I blame my penis size on hormones I was fed a kid :-P |
23:48.10 | Tekcub | I blame me size on... meh I don't have a reason |
23:48.21 | ckknight | I'm not really complaining, though |
23:48.29 | ckknight | I mean, I'm above-average |
23:48.43 | Tekcub | at least I don't have "fat man dick".... tho that'll change if I gain any more weight from my hubby's fatty diet |
23:48.55 | ckknight | I see sex as a cruel joke by biology |
23:49.09 | ckknight | it's trying to keep us down and prevent us from doing other, more productive things |
23:49.21 | Wobin | Since they piped the sewerage system through the same place as the pleasure one? =P |
23:49.29 | ckknight | no |
23:49.34 | ckknight | that we have sex at all |
23:49.43 | Wobin | Damn that reproductive drive |
23:49.52 | ckknight | if we eliminated sex, we wouldn't need to deal with all the shit. |
23:49.58 | ckknight | bitchy women |
23:50.00 | Tekcub | it's just like game of biological Super Soakers |
23:50.02 | Wobin | For at least one or so generations =P |
23:50.24 | ckknight | let's just go for a whole Brave New World approach. |
23:50.27 | Tekcub | shootin DNA at each other... |
23:50.39 | Wobin | while pumping frantically? |
23:50.57 | Tekcub | I put that bender quote into purl somewhere... |
23:51.01 | Industrial | <@ckknight> I mean, I'm above-average |
23:51.05 | Industrial | that goes in the quotes |
23:51.06 | Tekcub | ~shooting dna |
23:51.21 | purl | Please, he's no different from the rest of you organisms. Shooting DNA at each other to make babies. I find it offensive! |
23:51.21 | Industrial | :P |
23:51.21 | cladhaire | lol |
23:51.22 | ckknight | lol |
23:51.22 | Tekcub | nope... |
23:51.22 | ckknight | Tekcub, your sex doesn't even have any point at all :-P |
23:51.22 | Wobin | Industrial: Not enough context |
23:51.25 | Industrial | Wobin: line above too |
23:51.28 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
23:51.28 | Tekcub | that's why I don't have it very often I think |
23:51.40 | Tekcub | too much effort for the gooey payoff |
23:51.41 | hyperChipmunk | purl late to the party again |
23:51.54 | trollied | Population paste |
23:51.57 | ckknight | lol |
23:52.02 | ckknight | trollied, who're you? |
23:52.22 | trollied | sorry, i'm new around here. only been playing a month or so :) |
23:52.27 | ckknight | okay |
23:52.31 | Tekcub | a troll, duh, rate him down! |
23:52.31 | ckknight | I don't even play anymore |
23:52.33 | ckknight | so no biggie |
23:52.38 | Tekcub | oh wait, alla forum flashback |
23:52.54 | Industrial | Tekcub: youve come to the right place |
23:53.03 | Industrial | err, trollied |
23:53.09 | Tekcub | yea.... |
23:53.12 | Industrial | trollied: but avoid my karma please :D |
23:53.18 | Industrial | (on the forum) |
23:53.30 | Tekcub | indie, you're fired, again... why are you still here? You've been off the payroll for months |
23:53.44 | ckknight | he has voice |
23:53.45 | Industrial | but, but! |
23:53.48 | Industrial | yeah :P |
23:53.57 | ckknight | I gave it to him a few days ago |
23:54.01 | ckknight | and he hasn't lost it yet |
23:54.01 | Industrial | and im still spewing out addons.. |
23:54.08 | ckknight | tek keeps d/c'ing |
23:54.12 | hyperChipmunk | spew is about right |
23:54.13 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekcub] by ckknight |
23:54.40 | Tekcub | *shrug* I could just log out when I'm not here, but that's never been my style |
23:54.53 | ckknight | I d/c when my connection fails |
23:54.56 | Tekcub | it's easier to ignore my mother's IMs if I can pretend to be elsewhere |
23:55.04 | Industrial | i d/c once a few months |
23:55.18 | ckknight | you'll have voice for a while, then |
23:55.24 | Industrial | :) |
23:56.30 | Industrial | where were we, oh right, ckknight's penis size |
23:56.40 | ckknight | yea |
23:56.45 | ckknight | I'm like 7.5" |
23:56.51 | ckknight | last time I measured |
23:57.10 | tragywydd | well, unless it was when you were 16 it probably hasn't changed much |
23:57.12 | Tekcub | that's 5.5 real world inches, for anyone who doesn't have their chart |
23:57.23 | Industrial | ghe ghe |
23:57.23 | Industrial | :P |
23:57.28 | Cairenn | Industrial: what? |
23:57.35 | tragywydd | now now, don't put him down just because you're jealous, tekcub |
23:57.51 | cladhaire | i think we've hit a new low. |
23:58.08 | Wobin | cladhaire: Give it time, I'm sure we cn get lower |
23:58.08 | Tekcub | what's to be jealous of, I'm more of a bottom I like guys who are big |
23:58.14 | ckknight | lol, no, Tek |
23:58.25 | ckknight | it's actually 7.5" |
23:58.27 | ckknight | I'm not ashamed |
23:58.30 | ckknight | if I were, I'd be 9.5" |
23:58.37 | Tekcub | thick is more enjoyable than long tho, which is half the reason I like bears |
23:58.38 | ckknight | which is just too much to manage |
23:58.51 | ckknight | yea, girth is more important than length |
23:58.53 | Wobin | *zip* *rollrollroll* *thud* |
23:58.57 | ckknight | though they typically go hand in hand |
23:59.03 | Tekcub | I've had a hard nine before, it IS too much |
23:59.07 | Industrial | Wobin: lol |
23:59.07 | cladhaire | ckknight: You'd be suprised. |
23:59.14 | ckknight | oh well |
23:59.15 | ckknight | *shrug* |
23:59.25 | ckknight | I don't compare cocks with guys I meet |
23:59.32 | ckknight | unlike some people |
23:59.32 | cladhaire | why not? everyone should. |
23:59.35 | cladhaire | cair showed me her cock |
23:59.38 | tragywydd | but apparently you've thought about it enough |
23:59.39 | Wobin | It'd make for good conversation starters |
23:59.42 | ckknight | <cough>hyperChipmunk</cough> |
23:59.42 | Industrial | ckknight: LOL |
23:59.44 | Tekcub | thick ones are great, especially on abear that puts his weight into it :) |
23:59.44 | cladhaire | HUGE btw |