| 00:01.53 | mjc | kek |
| 00:02.27 | Kyahx | Wobin in here? |
| 00:02.32 | mjc | nevar |
| 00:02.37 | Kyahx | boo =( Paintball isnt working |
| 00:02.46 | mjc | how so |
| 00:02.48 | kergoth | whew, i think my tire pressure isnt dropping, or if it is, its incredibly slow, no need to buy a new one yet |
| 00:02.57 | Amadeo | What are some of the oldest US servers? |
| 00:03.06 | mjc | archimonde, magtheridon |
| 00:03.22 | maia | Amadeo: Proudmoore was online on day1 |
| 00:03.25 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07Alpha * r3711 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - changed description |
| 00:04.21 | Amadeo | thanks :) |
| 00:04.26 | Kebinusan | Shadowsong is a day 1 server I think |
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| 00:04.37 | Kebinusan | it certainly runs like it |
| 00:04.42 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:08.48 | Amadeo | The old servers will end up being the best when the expansion is out |
| 00:08.59 | Amadeo | they'll have newer hardware than the new servers |
| 00:09.18 | maia | Amadeo: we won't see the expansion before november |
| 00:09.41 | Amadeo | that's not too far off |
| 00:09.48 | cladhaire | 1.13 is likely prior to the expansion |
| 00:09.59 | Galka | I'm currently fighting Ossirian the Unscarred |
| 00:10.04 | Galka | BigWigs is not functioning |
| 00:10.09 | Galka | No Supreme timex bar, etc |
| 00:10.22 | maia | I said *not before* - possible it wont hit the shelves before april07 either |
| 00:12.17 | Amadeo | I bet you Blizzard doesn't fix the chat boxes before the patch |
| 00:12.27 | Amadeo | er, patch/expansion |
| 00:14.15 | ckknight | chat boxes? |
| 00:14.24 | Amadeo | yeah, the chat windows are all busted |
| 00:14.33 | Amadeo | switching tabs and losing lock/transparency settings |
| 00:14.34 | ckknight | how so? |
| 00:14.36 | ckknight | ah |
| 00:14.37 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:14.44 | Amadeo | haste even made an addon to fix the tab thing |
| 00:14.44 | Amadeo | haha |
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| 00:23.27 | Ratbert_CP | ~ping |
| 00:23.28 | purl | pong |
| 00:24.24 | Industrial | its alive its alive! |
| 00:24.26 | Industrial | http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/1466/wowscrnshot0701060223127br.jpg |
| 00:25.01 | phyber | cool |
| 00:25.40 | snurre | http://www.break.com/index/silentlibrary67_Break.html genious |
| 00:25.50 | Industrial | they just need a background but the StatusBar frame is being really gay and unsetting the backdrop everytime it updates |
| 00:26.01 | Industrial | so i need to make more frames :( |
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| 00:27.13 | Industrial | LOL snurre |
| 00:27.15 | Industrial | hah! |
| 00:27.32 | Industrial | i believe thats my kickboxing trainer |
| 00:27.35 | Industrial | ernesto hoost o_O |
| 00:30.33 | Amadeo | How is TinyTip working on SVN? |
| 00:31.01 | Industrial | ahahah |
| 00:31.02 | Industrial | ahah |
| 00:31.05 | Industrial | the slapping machine |
| 00:33.12 | Mikma | ewwwww, i just made the most horrible ui i have ever seen |
| 00:33.56 | ckknight_ | I still find it funny that I got AnduinLothar to leave #wowi-lounge |
| 00:34.17 | ckknight_ | I didn't even mean to, either |
| 00:34.17 | kergoth | ~praise ckknight_ |
| 00:34.19 | purl | All hail ckknight_! |
| 00:34.19 | Industrial | Mikma: shit shit! |
| 00:34.22 | Industrial | shot shot* |
| 00:34.24 | Industrial | lol |
| 00:34.24 | Industrial | :p |
| 00:34.25 | kergoth | :P |
| 00:34.33 | Mikma | Industrial: ogm teh tpyos |
| 00:34.39 | Industrial | kergoth: ;D |
| 00:34.41 | Industrial | Mikma: * |
| 00:34.41 | Industrial | :X |
| 00:34.57 | Mikma | Industrial: http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender/screenshots/Bartender_v103b_SS01.jpg -> SS04.jpg |
| 00:35.45 | Industrial | Mikma: eww |
| 00:35.48 | Mikma | i know |
| 00:35.51 | Industrial | Mikma: include buffs |
| 00:35.55 | Industrial | Mikma: and um, unitframes |
| 00:35.58 | Industrial | and the castingbar |
| 00:36.06 | Industrial | thats about the whole standard UI |
| 00:36.10 | Mikma | no, no, and yes |
| 00:36.19 | Industrial | why why? |
| 00:36.37 | Mikma | i'm not supporting the normal unitframes and buffs are a bitch to move ;) |
| 00:36.50 | ckknight | breath bar too. |
| 00:36.51 | Industrial | k |
| 00:37.09 | Mikma | oh yeah breathbar... i need to find out it's name |
| 00:37.45 | haste | MirrorBar1 - 3 |
| 00:37.47 | haste | I believe |
| 00:38.40 | Mikma | mmkay gotta check it out tomorrow |
| 00:39.26 | Mikma | and on the other hand i could leave the CastingBar support since haste has so sexeh castingbar addon already |
| 00:40.08 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub * r3712 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc ZG/Arlokk.lua): |
| 00:40.08 | CIA-7 | BigWigs |
| 00:40.08 | CIA-7 | - Removed icon from Arlokk... why do we need this? The player gets a big purple arrow over their head... Also hand, if you add a new feature make sure you also add a toggle for it! |
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| 00:47.53 | mjc | Tekcub: icon on arlokk is helpful to see the person if your raid likes to squish up against the wall |
| 00:48.13 | Kebinusan | hahahah |
| 00:48.22 | Tekcub | how is it any different from the purple arrow? |
| 00:48.25 | Kebinusan | the big purple arror isnt enough? |
| 00:48.40 | mjc | Tekcub: more visible |
| 00:48.46 | mjc | I almost never see that arrow |
| 00:49.00 | mjc | also |
| 00:49.10 | mjc | there are two targets, and one kind of mark |
| 00:49.24 | mjc | "help me, I'm the skull" vs. "help me, I'm marked" |
| 00:49.35 | Tekcub | uh... |
| 00:49.39 | Tekcub | wha? |
| 00:49.49 | Tekcub | there's only one sculler at a time |
| 00:49.57 | mjc | arlokk marks two people at a time |
| 00:50.19 | mjc | it's easier to say 'help me, I'm the one with the skull" vs. "help me, I have one of the purple arrows" |
| 00:50.31 | Mikma | huh, why can't i see the pictures i put into curse? |
| 00:50.34 | Tekcub | *shrug* I don't see why it's needed, but if you think it's so damn vital I can add it back |
| 00:50.45 | Kebinusan | but they both get big purple arrows |
| 00:50.51 | Kebinusan | just make sure there is a toggle option :-P |
| 00:51.14 | mjc | Tekcub: it'd be like if there were two bombs on geddon |
| 00:51.25 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-4415-1-bartender-103b.html |
| 00:51.30 | Mikma | can anyone see the pictures in there? |
| 00:51.40 | Kebinusan | its not like a seperate raid target icon is added to each person with the mark is there? |
| 00:51.42 | Tekcub | but geddon doesn't provide any mark... |
| 00:51.51 | mjc | the mod does |
| 00:51.54 | Kebinusan | well the burning flames around a body |
| 00:51.55 | mjc | :p |
| 00:53.50 | gnorlish | mikma: no |
| 00:54.18 | Mikma | bah why in the hell they won't show up :P |
| 00:54.32 | gnorlish | i don'[t know, but i can tell you what everyone is thinking |
| 00:54.39 | Tekcub | and we're back where we started... Arlockk provides an icon, why do we need to duplicate the functionality? |
| 00:54.44 | gnorlish | "if he can't even get pics to show on curse, i bet he sucks at addons!" |
| 00:55.05 | Mikma | i think you really are talking at yourself instead of everyone |
| 00:55.57 | Industrial | How do you like this? background colors (dynamic): http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/6006/wowscrnshot0701060254232mz.jpg |
| 00:56.19 | hyperChipmunk | who's gankin my geddon mod |
| 00:56.28 | Tekcub | not ged hC |
| 00:56.46 | Industrial | Mikma: eh? Tekcub: eh? gnorlish: eh? haste: eh? |
| 00:56.49 | hyperChipmunk | that reminds me |
| 00:56.54 | Tekcub | the icon got added to Arlokk, which casts it's own overhead icon, so I don't understand why it's needed and I removed it |
| 00:56.54 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: eh? |
| 00:57.03 | Mikma | Industrial: eh |
| 00:57.11 | gnorlish | what am i supposed to be opining |
| 00:57.17 | Industrial | Mikma: is eh good or bad |
| 00:57.26 | Industrial | < Industrial> How do you like this? background colors (dynamic): http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/6006/wowscrnshot0701060254232mz.jpg |
| 00:57.47 | Industrial | dynamic as in its yellow or blue or red |
| 00:57.50 | Industrial | :p |
| 00:57.55 | Industrial | the powerbar |
| 00:58.11 | gnorlish | i got nothin |
| 00:58.13 | Mikma | Industrial: colors are good |
| 00:58.28 | Industrial | oki |
| 00:58.44 | Mikma | so it seems like update is working now |
| 00:58.50 | Industrial | yesh |
| 01:03.09 | Mikma | ah fuck it, if the pictures won't show up until tomorrow i'll resubmit them |
| 01:03.39 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r3713 10BigWigs/ (AQ20/Buru.lua BWL/Vaelastrasz.lua MC/BaronGeddon.lua): |
| 01:03.39 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 01:03.39 | CIA-7 | - Bombs should now mark themselves if necessary |
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| 01:10.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 01:11.12 | mjc | cool. |
| 01:12.38 | Tekcub | uh, hC, didn't they already do that? |
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| 01:13.55 | Kyahx | 1192 ms latency...sitting in stormwind with no one around |
| 01:14.08 | Kyahx | my isp claims there is nothing wrong with my connection |
| 01:14.23 | Kyahx | =/ |
| 01:15.13 | hyperChipmunk | some didn't |
| 01:15.20 | hyperChipmunk | because Player was 'you' |
| 01:15.27 | hyperChipmunk | not your name |
| 01:15.38 | hyperChipmunk | so when it looked for raidX == player |
| 01:15.44 | hyperChipmunk | it never caught it |
| 01:15.50 | hyperChipmunk | er, UnitName('raidX') |
| 01:18.25 | ckknight | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Ace2#Documentation |
| 01:18.56 | Tekcub | hey GALKA! |
| 01:18.57 | Tekcub | http://www.wowwiki.com/Wushoolay |
| 01:19.09 | Tekcub | look at the pic's watermark :) |
| 01:19.23 | Galka | Raogrimm? |
| 01:19.28 | Tekcub | yes... |
| 01:19.29 | CIA-7 | 03mikma * r3714 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: Fixed the KeyRing highlight bug on mouseover after KeyRing has been open when bags are hidden |
| 01:19.38 | Galka | Name isn't ringing a bell |
| 01:19.45 | Tekcub | you fail at being a galka, you're disowned |
| 01:20.03 | Galka | Dude, the most badassedness mofakin Galka in FFXI wasn't named Raogrimm, was he? |
| 01:20.20 | ckknight | please check out the Ace2 link |
| 01:20.24 | ckknight | I added more documentation |
| 01:20.33 | Tekcub | *coughshadowlordcough* |
| 01:20.42 | Tekcub | *coughtalekeepercough* |
| 01:20.46 | Galka | Was named Raogrimm? |
| 01:20.51 | Galka | Why don't I remember that -_- |
| 01:21.11 | Tekcub | http://www.shadow-ffxi.com/HistoryofVanadiel/ |
| 01:21.13 | Tekcub | go, read |
| 01:21.22 | Tekcub | come back in a few days when you're done |
| 01:21.22 | Galka | In ZG, will read later |
| 01:21.29 | Tekcub | NOW FUCKEOR! |
| 01:30.36 | mjc | zg is for nubs |
| 01:33.20 | ckknight | your mom is for nubs. |
| 01:34.18 | ckknight | dear God, someone give me something to do... |
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| 01:34.56 | Mikma | do some ace2 addons |
| 01:36.05 | Mikma | ie. SCT Ace2'd, SCL Ace2'd, SpellAlert Ace2'd ... ;) |
| 01:36.33 | Kyahx | Just go Ace Discord Action Bars, that should be a fairly decent project |
| 01:36.34 | hyperChipmunk | spellalert -> witchcraft |
| 01:36.44 | mjc | Kyahx: bartender :p |
| 01:36.49 | hyperChipmunk | er, witchhunt |
| 01:37.11 | Kyahx | nah, bartender only lets me make 1x12 bars :P |
| 01:37.19 | Mikma | not for long ;) |
| 01:37.22 | Kyahx | don't tell Mikma, I've been useing Bongos =X |
| 01:37.24 | Kyahx | hehe |
| 01:37.42 | Mikma | i'm planning on braking them into 1x12 or 2x6 |
| 01:38.02 | Kyahx | anyone know a good blp -> tga converter? |
| 01:38.13 | Mikma | off to bed, thathaa |
| 01:38.18 | Kyahx | 'night Mikma |
| 01:39.04 | ckknight | I wonder what Kael would do if I declared Ace2 beta... |
| 01:39.19 | ckknight | I mean, I made a shitload of docs |
| 01:39.25 | hyperChipmunk | i used bartender for exactly 7 seconds before going back to bongos |
| 01:40.12 | Kyahx | So...Soap |
| 01:40.18 | Kyahx | Huge potential IMO |
| 01:41.10 | Kyahx | enemy casting bar with clique support for offensive casting, that would rock. |
| 01:44.14 | Codayus | Hm |
| 01:44.19 | Industrial | http://www.break.com/index/studiostreaker.html |
| 01:44.30 | Codayus | Ya |
| 01:44.49 | Industrial | when did break get a new site |
| 01:44.51 | Industrial | i like it |
| 01:44.54 | Industrial | its so web 2.0 |
| 01:44.55 | Industrial | *cough* |
| 01:45.26 | Kebinusan | I used Bongos for about 7 seconds before I went back to discord action bars |
| 01:46.02 | Kyahx | Kebinusan: Im sorry |
| 01:46.14 | Kebinusan | yeah :-/ |
| 01:46.24 | Kebinusan | biggest memory hog in warmup atm |
| 01:46.37 | Kyahx | What part of DAB do you use that bongo's cant do? |
| 01:47.40 | Kebinusan | well I have alot of floaters, and my main bar I have setup so that when I hold down the alt key it flips to page 2 so I have I have a set of buttons that are my normal buttons, then alt+normal buttons |
| 01:48.01 | Kebinusan | a few buttons/bars are conditionals |
| 01:48.10 | Kebinusan | only show up when targeting a caster, or a demon or an elemental |
| 01:48.28 | Kyahx | Couldn't you do that with Visor Buttons? |
| 01:48.39 | ckknight | http://pastebin.ca/76102 <--- this works. despite being horribly, horribly convoluted. |
| 01:48.39 | Kebinusan | yeah, if I took the time to learn it |
| 01:48.55 | Kyahx | Discord's Config frame is what kills it |
| 01:48.56 | ckknight | which means that AceLibrary is coded well and AceOO, too |
| 01:49.07 | Kebinusan | the config frame is load on demand though |
| 01:49.12 | Kyahx | is it? I thought it wasnt |
| 01:49.39 | Kebinusan | yeah he changed it some timeago, its a seperate addon folder now |
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| 01:50.24 | Kyahx | hmm, its been a while since I used them |
| 01:50.37 | Kebinusan | still uses ~4000KiB though |
| 01:50.41 | Kyahx | ouch |
| 01:51.36 | Kebinusan | yeah trying to cut down my bloated mods list |
| 01:52.16 | mjc | who was responsible for squishy? |
| 01:52.36 | mjc | maia |
| 01:52.41 | mjc | yay @ svn log |
| 01:52.54 | Kebinusan | DAB and Mobinfo2 are on my hitlist |
| 01:53.22 | Kyahx | eh, I just learned to live with perfecentages |
| 01:53.38 | Kyahx | er...percentages |
| 01:53.47 | Kebinusan | probably what Im going to do honestly |
| 01:53.56 | mjc | I like seeing what dropped what |
| 01:53.58 | CIA-7 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r3715 10BigWigs/MC/BaronGeddon.lua: |
| 01:53.58 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 01:53.58 | CIA-7 | - Typo in Baron Geddon update |
| 01:54.14 | Kebinusan | thats what thottbot is for |
| 01:54.21 | mjc | I mean, what I saw drop |
| 01:54.35 | Kyahx | blah, I can't find a good blp to tga converter =/ |
| 01:54.48 | mjc | imagemagick? |
| 01:55.11 | Kyahx | that works with blp? |
| 01:57.20 | hyperChipmunk | not afaik |
| 01:59.10 | Kyahx | success! |
| 01:59.19 | Kyahx | Found a command line proggy =/ |
| 02:00.41 | pagefault | nice deal |
| 02:01.06 | pagefault | nice deal |
| 02:01.06 | pagefault | oops |
| 02:01.17 | pagefault | haha |
| 02:01.20 | nullpuppy | haha, i should have |
| 02:01.27 | pagefault | rogue? |
| 02:01.29 | nullpuppy | yeah |
| 02:01.32 | Kyahx | =/ |
| 02:01.43 | Kyahx | Barman Shanker if you want a blue-tastic dagger |
| 02:01.44 | pagefault | which server are you on |
| 02:01.56 | nullpuppy | Surumar |
| 02:01.59 | pagefault | oh nice |
| 02:02.01 | pagefault | I am gonna get on in a sec |
| 02:02.05 | nullpuppy | cool |
| 02:02.10 | pagefault | I transferred |
| 02:02.16 | nullpuppy | awesome ;) horde? |
| 02:02.19 | pagefault | yep |
| 02:02.22 | nullpuppy | w00t |
| 02:02.23 | nullpuppy | name? |
| 02:02.46 | pagefault | I already forget |
| 02:02.48 | pagefault | I had to change it |
| 02:02.51 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 02:02.52 | nullpuppy | awww |
| 02:05.50 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07Alpha * r3716 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - made more efficient. |
| 02:10.35 | Kebinusan | more efficient! with teh power of lemon! |
| 02:10.44 | ckknight | I saved 2 tables per class |
| 02:10.53 | ckknight | now it only takes 4 |
| 02:11.39 | ckknight | instead of like ... 8 like it was previously |
| 02:11.45 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:12.32 | ckknight | I've been working on efficiency |
| 02:12.33 | ckknight | and such |
| 02:13.17 | ckknight | to have prototype-based OOP, like how Ace1 is, it takes a minimum of 2 tables |
| 02:13.47 | ckknight | since AceOO-2.0 has a separation between static and instance methods, it requires 2 extra tables |
| 02:14.15 | ckknight | granted, it's only 1 table per instance in Ace2 |
| 02:14.24 | ckknight | wheras it was 2 tables per instance in Ace1 |
| 02:14.31 | hyperChipmunk | wb k |
| 02:14.32 | Kaelten | ello again |
| 02:14.44 | Kaelten | so did I miss anything significant? |
| 02:15.28 | ckknight | I made AceOO take up half as many tables today. |
| 02:15.56 | ckknight | and a convoluted mixin structure properly upgrades itself and all its embeds |
| 02:16.21 | ckknight | oh, and I wrote up more documentation |
| 02:16.53 | ckknight | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Ace2#Documentation |
| 02:18.19 | Kaelten | hrm are we sure that aceoo still works the same? |
| 02:19.42 | ckknight | and I direct you to the ginormous amount of unit tests I wrote for it |
| 02:20.13 | ckknight | they all pass |
| 02:21.36 | Kaelten | k, did we ever nail down the AceLibrary upgrade bug? |
| 02:21.43 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:22.29 | Kaelten | cool |
| 02:22.53 | ckknight | AceLibrary works great now |
| 02:22.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 02:22.57 | ckknight | and AceOO is working nicely |
| 02:23.11 | Kaelten | cladhaire: kergoth: did you ever get my email? |
| 02:23.20 | ckknight | such power, envoping... my soul! |
| 02:23.24 | ckknight | err |
| 02:23.27 | ckknight | enveloping* |
| 02:23.33 | Kaelten | don't let it get to your head or I'll take it away :) |
| 02:23.39 | ckknight | don't worry |
| 02:23.41 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:23.48 | ckknight | I've had management positions before |
| 02:24.02 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, you're working for Christmas! |
| 02:24.40 | ckknight | and I'll hear naught of Tiny Tim |
| 02:24.46 | ckknight | he and his Ukelele shall go wanting |
| 02:28.07 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 02:34.47 | pagefault | ah |
| 02:34.47 | pagefault | yes |
| 02:34.49 | pagefault | my name is leogan |
| 02:35.01 | pagefault | nordic for "to lie" |
| 02:35.02 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:35.06 | nullpuppy | haha nice |
| 02:35.10 | pagefault | err old norse I mean |
| 02:35.10 | nullpuppy | i'm negaduck |
| 02:35.43 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 02:35.54 | hyperChipmunk | whazi do? |
| 02:49.28 | hyperChipmunk | haste: dropping food on the pet frame doesn't feed the pet, as it shoul |
| 02:49.30 | hyperChipmunk | d |
| 03:12.33 | Industrial | I just spent 4 hours on break.com |
| 03:12.35 | Industrial | :| |
| 03:12.49 | Industrial | no wait, 2.5 |
| 03:12.49 | Industrial | :P |
| 03:14.45 | Tekcub | someone kick thrae in the ass with the lern2commitnote boot |
| 03:25.47 | Industrial | I see oUF:OnAuraEnter() being used, is this Ace2 and/or does it handle buffs/debuffs? |
| 03:26.36 | Industrial | ah right |
| 03:26.52 | Industrial | oUF just used UnitBuff and checks them all |
| 03:30.06 | mjc | BigWigs_RaidWarn tries to whisper marked pets |
| 03:31.32 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 03:31.39 | mjc | 1liner incoming |
| 03:34.01 | Industrial | Can I do a={} a.1=foo ? |
| 03:34.15 | Industrial | my editor highlighting shws the .1 part as a number |
| 03:34.18 | mjc | if( (UnitIsPlayer(player) and ( not player ) or ( not msg ) or ( not self:GetOpt("whisper") ) ) then return end |
| 03:34.21 | mjc | does that sound right? |
| 03:34.38 | hyperChipmunk | it'd be a["1"] not a[1] |
| 03:34.52 | Industrial | but im using a . |
| 03:34.53 | Industrial | :p |
| 03:34.57 | hyperChipmunk | exactly |
| 03:35.13 | Industrial | .1 isnt [1] .. |
| 03:35.18 | hyperChipmunk | t.foo is t["foo"] |
| 03:35.22 | Industrial | yes |
| 03:35.28 | Industrial | so .1 isnt [1] |
| 03:35.29 | Industrial | :p |
| 03:35.38 | hyperChipmunk | t.1 is therefore t["1"] |
| 03:35.41 | hyperChipmunk | not t[1] |
| 03:35.45 | Galka | Guys |
| 03:35.48 | Galka | We've been in ZG |
| 03:35.54 | Galka | And are having lots of problems with oRA and CTRA |
| 03:35.58 | Galka | with synching maintanks |
| 03:35.59 | mjc | same here |
| 03:36.08 | mjc | none of them are working for us atm |
| 03:36.15 | Galka | CTRA users are not synching with ORA for MTs |
| 03:36.31 | mjc | Galka: ctra isn't synching with CTRA here either |
| 03:39.01 | Tekcub | lemme guess, they changed some fundamental thing in CTRA... but they didn't change the shit that's been added to the default UI to use the default UI... |
| 03:39.12 | Industrial | cant you just decide on the mt befor the raid and set your frame to that player? :| |
| 03:39.23 | mjc | Tekcub: CTRA doesn't work |
| 03:39.27 | mjc | with CTRA |
| 03:39.28 | mjc | so |
| 03:39.37 | Tekcub | i.e., they changed unimportantant shit and didn't change shit to try to transition users to the default UI so non-CTRA players would benefit as well |
| 03:39.42 | Industrial | meh 5:30 am |
| 03:39.45 | Tekcub | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.46 | Industrial | nn peeplz |
| 03:39.51 | mjc | Tekcub: hear hear |
| 03:40.03 | Industrial | Tekcub: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1634.new#new |
| 03:40.11 | Industrial | got my unitframes done a bit more |
| 03:40.11 | Industrial | :D |
| 03:40.14 | mjc | [ammo]: ping |
| 03:40.18 | Tekcub | we need to hound slowken for a hidden raid channel so CTRA can be totally unneeded |
| 03:40.24 | Industrial | buffs are up tomorrow and after that click thingies :o |
| 03:40.25 | Kebinusan | yeah Galka I noticed that too tonight |
| 03:40.28 | Tekcub | gg indie |
| 03:40.29 | Industrial | nn |
| 03:40.42 | Kebinusan | just a flag to hide text sent to any channel |
| 03:40.53 | Kebinusan | so its not visible but still processed would be nice |
| 03:41.03 | Tekcub | hrm... that could work I guess, I don't know if they'll even consider it tho |
| 03:41.04 | Kebinusan | if that would be possible |
| 03:41.19 | Tekcub | in the past they've been less that thrilled at inter-mod comm |
| 03:41.43 | Tekcub | hell, you know what could be done |
| 03:42.06 | Tekcub | just start spamming up the raid channel with a prefix on it like "<oRA>" |
| 03:42.30 | Tekcub | then release a mini "filter" mod that blocks them for people that don't wanna run the full mod |
| 03:42.44 | Tekcub | force people into installing it, if they don't like spammy raid chat |
| 03:42.49 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 03:42.51 | Tekcub | that'll piss people off |
| 03:43.07 | Kebinusan | that it would |
| 03:44.15 | Kebinusan | its weird that channels are such a limited resource |
| 03:44.26 | Kebinusan | hell just run an IRC server or something for chat functions |
| 03:44.50 | Kebinusan | but alas, we're stuck with it I guess |
| 03:49.31 | Kyahx | a flag to hide chat messages would be the ultimate solution for mod communications |
| 03:49.40 | Kyahx | could use the party channel, guild channel, raid channel |
| 03:52.10 | Kebinusan | indeed |
| 03:52.16 | Kyahx | In retrospect: I should have posted the Transcriptor thread in the Raid Mods sub-forum |
| 03:54.59 | Tekcub | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=406803 |
| 03:55.07 | Tekcub | please sign |
| 03:55.18 | Tekcub | provide more posative examples too |
| 03:55.20 | Tekcub | :) |
| 03:56.45 | mjc | paintball bombed on line 107... compost is nil |
| 03:56.49 | mjc | 100 too |
| 03:57.01 | mjc | and perfectraid:548, comparing string iwth nil |
| 04:02.24 | mjc | paintball.lua first bombs on 100, my bad |
| 04:05.57 | mjc | aha |
| 04:06.04 | mjc | if you have no raidicon compost can be nil |
| 04:06.28 | hyperChipmunk | Tekcub: s/"standard"/"protocol" |
| 04:06.31 | hyperChipmunk | cuz it really is |
| 04:20.04 | Tekcub | oh yea |
| 04:30.54 | KaeltenAway | gnight guys |
| 04:31.36 | hyperChipmunk | sweet dreams |
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| 04:56.08 | Tem | AAARG |
| 04:56.24 | Tem | why are there only 3 smart officers in my guild? |
| 04:56.26 | Tem | why? |
| 04:56.54 | Tem | the rest of them are too fucking stupid to understand a zero-sum dkp system |
| 04:57.58 | gnorlish | 3 is the limit |
| 04:58.32 | Kebinusan | eyah 3 wise men and all that, its biblical |
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| 05:01.21 | hyperChipmunk | ~wut is teh dkp??? |
| 05:01.24 | purl | ...but wut is already something else... |
| 05:01.33 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 05:01.37 | hyperChipmunk | ~wut |
| 05:01.38 | purl | well, wut is a lamer way of saying what |
| 05:01.38 | Kebinusan | hmm c'thun module is being wonky |
| 05:01.48 | Kebinusan | I wonder if everyone updated like I told em to |
| 05:02.44 | Kebinusan | <BW> Im sorry version shows your module as being out of date, disabling because you're a dumbass who cant follow directions on how to update |
| 05:04.00 | Tekcub | hrm.... we want to start adding rev keywords to every module to compare against? |
| 05:04.08 | Tekcub | that could actually work... |
| 05:04.19 | Tekcub | send with an enable sync message |
| 05:06.15 | Tekcub | "Your BigWigs appears to be out of a date. Module: Ragnaros, local version r3333, reported version r3456" |
| 05:07.12 | Tekcub | I like that idea actually... would only bitch at the user if the current module was out of date |
| 05:12.49 | gnorlish | you'd have to do 10 updates a day then |
| 05:12.58 | gnorlish | to keep people on their toes |
| 05:13.17 | Tekcub | no |
| 05:13.30 | Tekcub | look at what mods are getting tweaked a bunch right now |
| 05:13.36 | Tekcub | AQ40 and Naxx |
| 05:14.00 | Tekcub | and how solid is CTRABM's AQ40/naxx support anyway? |
| 05:17.30 | Kebinusan | not very good |
| 05:18.20 | Tekcub | exactly |
| 05:18.54 | Tekcub | I like the idea of per-boss update nag messages |
| 05:19.21 | Tekcub | we could even throw in an annoying "splat" sound to pester the user, and not give an option to disable that |
| 05:21.19 | Kebinusan | heheh |
| 05:21.22 | Tekcub | bedtiem! |
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| 05:21.48 | Tekcub | wob... sign http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=406803 |
| 05:22.12 | Tekcub | Tem: plaese SVN or release iTemFu already |
| 05:22.18 | Tekcub | that is all, I gone now |
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| 05:26.24 | Wobin | signed |
| 05:31.40 | Tem | iTemFu, Banter, Detox, AceGUI + all other open projects |
| 05:36.03 | Wobin | wow Indy |
| 05:36.06 | Wobin | -38 |
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| 05:47.54 | Amadeo | :DDD |
| 06:02.48 | Wobin | heheh brilliant icon: http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/47344258/768981 |
| 06:06.22 | sedatedChipmunk | Wobin: I'm sleeping |
| 06:06.24 | sedatedChipmunk | shh |
| 06:06.31 | sedatedChipmunk | no laughing |
| 06:06.38 | sedatedChipmunk | you'll wake me up |
| 06:07.09 | Wobin | s/hehe// |
| 06:07.45 | sedatedChipmunk | ty |
| 06:10.26 | Amadeo | I should sleep :/ |
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| 06:42.58 | Codayus | hmmm |
| 06:48.29 | Wobin | Is AceLibraryBase a library template? |
| 07:03.35 | Kyahx | "He likes to spend his time on top of a mountain, swinging a chain around" |
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| 07:12.14 | Wobin | dear god |
| 07:12.19 | Wobin | 613k |
| 07:12.20 | Wobin | PK |
| 07:12.26 | Wobin | with Ace2 externals |
| 07:12.33 | Wobin | plus libraries |
| 07:12.43 | Wobin | That's insane =P |
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| 07:28.06 | Neronix`sleep | Wobin: No, but it's for use in libraries if you want to use the methods it provides |
| 07:28.23 | Wobin | ah |
| 07:31.07 | Codayus | having issues with oRA with the latest SVN version |
| 07:31.22 | Codayus | don't seem to be receiving ANY messages on the sync chan |
| 07:31.52 | Codayus | correction, still receiving ready checks. not seeing MTs or resist checks...odd |
| 07:51.24 | CIA-7 | 03icetrain * r3717 10BigWigs/BWL/Flamegor.lua: BigWigs: Changed notFrenzy to notWingBuffet in BIGWIGS_SYNC_FLAMEGOR_WING_BUFFET() |
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| 08:14.03 | [Ammo] | mjc: ping spotted but I am usually not awake at 5:40am |
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| 08:20.50 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r3718 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: |
| 08:20.50 | CIA-7 | BigWigs (C'Thun): |
| 08:20.50 | CIA-7 | * Learn to type variables the same twice. |
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| 08:21.24 | ckknight | hey |
| 08:21.37 | Kebinusan | heheh |
| 08:21.49 | ckknight | how's everyone today? |
| 08:21.57 | ckknight | whew, long program |
| 08:22.11 | ckknight | went to the Rotary Change of Officers |
| 08:22.20 | ckknight | my dad was president |
| 08:25.08 | Tuplad | o_O |
| 08:25.23 | Tuplad | wtf |
| 08:25.33 | ckknight | what? |
| 08:25.34 | Tuplad | tinytip is 14 files now ? oO_ |
| 08:25.43 | ckknight | it's just that tiny. |
| 08:26.37 | Tuplad | :< it was like 3 files before |
| 08:27.05 | Tuplad | where should I set my settings ? local AllOptions or local DefaultOptions |
| 08:36.50 | Wobin | Attempt to index field 'positions' a nil value: ...nterface\AddOns\PlowKingOO\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:35 function |
| 08:36.58 | Wobin | =( |
| 08:38.07 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07Alpha * r3719 10Ace2/ (AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua): AceLibrary - fixed nonobvious error. |
| 08:38.35 | Wobin | They're always the best ones =) |
| 08:40.29 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:40.36 | ckknight | lol, Wobin |
| 08:40.41 | ckknight | it actually fixes that bug |
| 08:40.45 | ckknight | the line 35 bug |
| 08:41.08 | Wobin | yow |
| 08:41.09 | ckknight | it was doing a check on a new lib, but not on an existing lib |
| 08:41.14 | Wobin | Attempt to modify a read only class: nterface\AddOns\oUF\AceOO\AceOO-2.0.lua:832 function |
| 08:41.19 | ckknight | where the lib is AceLibrary |
| 08:41.33 | Wobin | hm |
| 08:41.39 | ckknight | line 832 i a comment. |
| 08:42.15 | ckknight | is* |
| 08:42.25 | Tuplad | Imma try oUF2 right now :) |
| 08:42.56 | ckknight | hehe, I have ops... shiny |
| 08:43.17 | ckknight | and the true test of power is knowing that someone has wronged you, and then set them free |
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| 08:55.41 | ckknight | http://bash.org/?664845 |
| 08:57.02 | Kebinusan | lol |
| 08:59.40 | Wobin | hm |
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| 08:59.56 | Tuplad | some kinky shit :O |
| 09:00.08 | Tuplad | TinyTip conflicts with TargetTell(both /tt) |
| 09:01.50 | Wobin | Attempt to index local 'self' a number value: Interface\AddOns\oUF\AceOO\AceOO-2.0.lua:607 function `init' |
| 09:01.50 | Wobin | I |
| 09:02.32 | Tuplad | Elkano's Buffbar gives me an error :( |
| 09:02.38 | ckknight | wtf, weird |
| 09:02.51 | ckknight | Wobin, can you somehow get a debugstack()? |
| 09:03.01 | Wobin | hokay |
| 09:03.26 | Wobin | spam: |
| 09:03.27 | Wobin | Interface\AddOns\oUF\AceOO\AceOO-2.0.lua:607 function `init' |
| 09:03.27 | Wobin | Interface\AddOns\PlowKingOO\PlowKingBagSlot.lua:15 function `init' |
| 09:03.27 | Wobin | Interface\AddOns\oUF\AceOO\AceOO-2.0.lua:444 function `new' |
| 09:03.27 | Wobin | Interface\AddOns\PlowKingOO\PlowKing.lua:213 function `CompleteBagScan' |
| 09:03.27 | Wobin | Interface\AddOns\PlowKingOO\PlowKing.lua:127 function `Initialize' |
| 09:03.28 | Wobin | Interface\AddOns\Ace\Ace.lua:243 function `InitializeApp' |
| 09:03.29 | Wobin | Interface\AddOns\Ace\AceState.lua:63 function `Finish' |
| 09:03.31 | Wobin | Interface\AddOns\Ace\AceState.lua:128 function `?' |
| 09:03.33 | Wobin | Interface\AddOns\Ace\AceEvent.lua:81 function `EventHandler' |
| 09:03.35 | Wobin | [string "AceEventFrame:OnEvent"]:2 main chunk |
| 09:03.40 | Tuplad | :O |
| 09:04.03 | Wobin | The bottom half probably isn't too helpful |
| 09:04.22 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:04.33 | ckknight | can you pastebin PlowKingBagSlot.ua? |
| 09:04.35 | ckknight | lua* |
| 09:04.38 | Wobin | sure |
| 09:06.07 | Wobin | http://pastebin.ca/76234 |
| 09:06.08 | ckknight | cause I believe the error is in there |
| 09:06.12 | Wobin | That's just the init function |
| 09:06.20 | ckknight | yep |
| 09:06.21 | ckknight | it is |
| 09:06.27 | Wobin | cause Vim makes copying more than a page irritating =P |
| 09:06.38 | ckknight | change PlowKing.BagSlot.super.prototype.init(bag, slot) |
| 09:06.42 | ckknight | to PlowKing.BagSlot.super.prototype.init(self, bag, slot) |
| 09:06.44 | ckknight | and you're good. |
| 09:07.02 | Wobin | aha |
| 09:07.05 | Wobin | hm |
| 09:07.20 | Wobin | I tried setting it to ...prototype:init(bag, slot) |
| 09:07.28 | Wobin | earlier but it came up with another error... lemme try |
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| 09:07.42 | ckknight | problem with that is that you give an improper self |
| 09:07.55 | Wobin | ah, true |
| 09:08.38 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07Alpha * r3720 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - added error when init fails. |
| 09:08.40 | ckknight | :-) |
| 09:08.47 | ckknight | and now it's all fixed |
| 09:10.11 | ckknight | well, it yells at you right away now |
| 09:10.15 | Wobin | hehe =) |
| 09:10.29 | Wobin | awright =) |
| 09:10.37 | Wobin | BagSlot converted successfully |
| 09:10.41 | Wobin | (ish) |
| 09:10.44 | Wobin | now for the others =P |
| 09:11.32 | ckknight | compost:GetTable() is deprecated |
| 09:11.48 | ckknight | compost:Acquire() is what you're supposed to do |
| 09:13.25 | Wobin | orly? |
| 09:13.32 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:13.36 | Wobin | damnit, Tekk needs to update his API |
| 09:13.38 | ckknight | it's in the docs |
| 09:13.39 | ckknight | he did. |
| 09:13.45 | Wobin | Bah. |
| 09:13.51 | Wobin | Has he done it for Metrognome? |
| 09:13.57 | Wobin | Last I checked they were pretty old |
| 09:14.22 | ckknight | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Compost_Embedded_Library_Methods#GetTable |
| 09:15.17 | Wobin | Thanks =) |
| 09:15.46 | Kebinusan | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7957304890038761655&q= <-- scares me |
| 09:16.14 | ckknight | once Ace2 reaches beta, I'll be converting my addons and then putting the API up on the wiki |
| 09:17.55 | Gngsk | Kebinusan, you've been added to the blacklist |
| 09:18.00 | Kebinusan | hahah |
| 09:19.20 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:19.26 | ckknight | that was silly |
| 09:19.30 | ckknight | and quite gay. |
| 09:20.09 | Gngsk | the only thing amusing about that whole video is the oversized xbox in that guys living room |
| 09:20.14 | Gngsk | and the demented face on the wall |
| 09:20.29 | ckknight | hehe |
| 09:38.14 | [Ammo] | damn good party last night |
| 09:38.31 | [Ammo] | but I can't remember cycling the 10km back home |
| 09:38.33 | [Ammo] | not a damn part of it |
| 09:43.03 | MoonWolf | finally |
| 09:43.08 | MoonWolf | my screen is in! |
| 09:43.13 | MoonWolf | 19" tft, here i come. |
| 09:43.24 | MoonWolf | 14" crt POS get off my desk! |
| 09:43.33 | MoonWolf | well, in a few hours anyway |
| 09:43.35 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:44.05 | [Ammo] | I need some coffee |
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| 09:54.22 | CIA-7 | 03ammo * r3721 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/ (Anubrekhan.lua Razuvious.lua): |
| 09:54.22 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 09:54.22 | CIA-7 | * Updated Razuvious and Anub'Rekhan to the versions Sirian posted. |
| 09:54.22 | CIA-7 | * Changed a small thing about Razuvious to prevent excessive spamming of the SYNC. |
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| 10:02.48 | CIA-7 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3722 10AceUtils/Maths-2.0/AceUtils-Maths-2.0.lua: AceUtils - Maths: Forgot to get rid of debug string in :Median() |
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| 11:34.34 | Mikma | *yawn* |
| 11:34.50 | Mikma | hiya all, i think i slept too much since my head feels like asscrack now |
| 11:38.27 | Iceroth | someone give me a paper copy of lua reference, reading from the screen while waiting in bg queue wow in window mode ain't really fun :s |
| 11:47.37 | Kebinusan | Iceroth, http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3696-1-bgswitch.html |
| 11:48.11 | Gngsk | don't do it, he's on the blacklist |
| 11:48.30 | Kebinusan | you're just jealous you didnt find that video on your own |
| 11:48.34 | Kebinusan | heheh |
| 11:48.35 | Gngsk | false |
| 11:49.37 | Kebinusan | well its curse, it cant be that harmful |
| 11:49.55 | Kebinusan | although I cant vouch for the heterosexuality of the link |
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| 11:52.03 | haste | The song / video I found yesterday also scares me |
| 11:52.40 | Mikma | the japanese one? |
| 11:52.52 | Kebinusan | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7957304890038761655&q=label%3Aavrage+homeboy that one |
| 11:53.00 | haste | Mikma, yeh :p |
| 11:53.07 | Mikma | haste: it kinda rocked ;) |
| 11:53.27 | haste | I had heared the song before howevre :p |
| 11:53.38 | haste | mini moni is quite "known" |
| 11:58.51 | CIA-7 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3723 10AceUtils/Table-2.0/AceUtils-Table-2.0.lua: AceUtils - Table: First method: :DestroyTable() - Removes the contents of a table and detaches its metatable |
| 12:01.21 | Mikma | hmmmm |
| 12:01.31 | Neronix | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceUtils-Table-2.0_Documentation |
| 12:01.35 | Neronix | check out the example :P |
| 12:01.39 | Mikma | should i make the movable bars only to show if the bar is toggled visible? |
| 12:04.43 | Neronix | If you want |
| 12:08.06 | Mikma | that would be smart i think |
| 12:12.32 | Mikma | so what the hell |
| 12:12.41 | Mikma | now it blocks the blizzard raidui (miniblizzraid) |
| 12:13.44 | Wobin | I'm thinking we should incorporate Compost into Ace2 |
| 12:15.23 | haste | hah! |
| 12:15.28 | haste | I got infantry running under Linux |
| 12:23.24 | Neronix | Infantry? |
| 12:24.00 | haste | I had a movie here, give me a sec |
| 12:24.01 | Neronix | oh, a SOE game =/ |
| 12:24.14 | haste | yep |
| 12:24.29 | haste | damn SoE killed the game several years ago |
| 12:24.36 | haste | when I bought the creater |
| 12:24.42 | haste | and made it pay2play =\ |
| 12:25.35 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-c5HbD2tWo << little movie :p |
| 12:26.24 | Neronix | purl: SOE is <reply>See "cyanide" |
| 12:26.30 | purl | okay, Neronix |
| 12:26.32 | haste | a group released a emulated server pack a month ago |
| 12:26.52 | haste | so it's actually possible to play it again |
| 12:26.57 | Neronix | Ah, cool |
| 12:27.48 | haste | it's five years since I played it now tho' :p |
| 12:34.53 | Mikma | ah |
| 12:35.11 | Mikma | 3-0 victory in wsg feels good after a while |
| 12:35.27 | Neronix | Why doesn't it feel good at the time? O.o |
| 12:35.39 | Mikma | because it's a shock that we won |
| 12:36.11 | Mikma | you should have guessed by now that we are alliance... |
| 12:37.13 | Neronix | Heh |
| 12:39.11 | Mikma | is there any addons which will make me not target pets |
| 12:39.13 | Hakker | alliance winning WSG is very speacial... I won the very first round I ever played ;) |
| 12:39.36 | Gngsk | out of all the games I've played tonight we scored once |
| 12:40.51 | Hakker | therefor AB is alot more fun for alliance since it's more a 50/50 game ;) |
| 12:41.16 | Hakker | AV on Trollaben is more alliance which frankly I don't mind at all ;) |
| 12:41.42 | haste | EU? |
| 12:41.47 | Hakker | yeah |
| 12:42.12 | haste | how's the server? I didn't migrate there when I had the chance |
| 12:42.24 | Hakker | good actually |
| 12:42.26 | haste | (luckily, since Grim Batol is almost perfect) |
| 12:42.42 | haste | <3 23 ms |
| 12:42.47 | steino_ | Grim Batol IS perfect |
| 12:42.48 | steino_ | :) |
| 12:43.01 | Hakker | ratio could be a bit less gimped but for the rest it's good |
| 12:43.49 | Mikma | grim batol is perfect for alliance or horde |
| 12:43.55 | Hakker | evening runs it's 120-150 ms so it's nothing to worry about and in the evening about half the realm is prolly online |
| 12:44.33 | haste | Mikma, both |
| 12:45.38 | Hakker | but then again anything besides Bloodscalp is an improvement ;) |
| 12:45.40 | haste | the only thing that sucks with grim batol is that there is a queue on 200 when I get home from work :p |
| 12:45.52 | Hakker | no queue ;) |
| 12:46.01 | haste | queue isn't much of a problem |
| 12:46.17 | haste | it goes fast, and I would have stayed on the server even if it was a 1k queue |
| 12:46.22 | haste | (which it was in the start) |
| 12:46.24 | Hakker | depends 200 is like 10-14 minutes |
| 12:46.44 | haste | that's 10 more min of coding ;) |
| 12:47.18 | Hakker | Bloodscalp always had 200 minimum and in the end it was normal to have 500-600 and if you were unlucky 1000-1200 :( |
| 12:47.21 | CIA-7 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3724 10AceUtils/Table-2.0/AceUtils-Table-2.0.lua: AceUtils - Fixed typo in docs |
| 12:47.26 | Hakker | 1200 is like 1,5 hours |
| 12:47.38 | haste | we had 1k queues after we migrated ;) |
| 12:47.50 | steino_ | yep |
| 12:48.00 | steino_ | but its not a problem anymore |
| 12:48.13 | haste | the server is stable, and the ms is really low |
| 12:48.19 | Hakker | it's on of the reasons we went to Trollbane from Bloodscalp |
| 12:48.48 | Hakker | BS always had issues... loads of huns :( and a terrible queue |
| 12:49.42 | haste | on Burning Blade we had high ms (like 1k), random disconnects, instance servers dying, people teleporting around, zeppelins going to strange places |
| 12:50.13 | haste | http://www.beverpung.net/filer/wow/burning_blade_-_the_drop.avi << *points at server* |
| 12:50.29 | Hakker | well most of the Burning Blade guilds died on Trollbane though |
| 12:50.48 | haste | that might be, only "shit guilds" migrated |
| 12:51.17 | Hakker | only ONIX survived I believe |
| 12:51.33 | haste | ah, the STV campers ;) |
| 12:51.48 | Hakker | not anymore ;) |
| 12:52.19 | Hakker | they've transformed to one of the best guilds on the realm in terms of progress |
| 12:53.46 | Hakker | the only other guilds that exist a long time are Sultans of Swing and Puppies on Acid |
| 12:54.01 | haste | hehe |
| 12:56.25 | Gngsk | so does miniblizzraid work again? |
| 12:56.48 | haste | think os |
| 12:57.07 | Gngsk | brilliant! |
| 12:57.14 | steino_ | yep |
| 12:57.15 | steino_ | it does |
| 12:58.14 | Hakker | from Bloodscalp all the high level guild migrated to Trollbane ;) |
| 13:07.29 | haste | looks like ti's time to slice tinytip alittle |
| 13:07.45 | Industrial | *yawn* |
| 13:07.48 | Industrial | morning |
| 13:08.07 | haste | morning id |
| 13:10.05 | Mikma | jesus, second victory in a row, i captured 2 times, go durids |
| 13:12.25 | Kebinusan | So is the difference between onebag and bagnos more defined than the difference between coke and pepsi? |
| 13:12.58 | Kebinusan | err bagnon |
| 13:13.17 | Kebinusan | Im trying to determine what the differences are |
| 13:13.51 | Kebinusan | nm, updates.. back to idling |
| 13:14.19 | haste | *confused* |
| 13:14.24 | Kebinusan | me too |
| 13:14.34 | Kebinusan | Im reworking my ui trying to get rid of cruft |
| 13:14.44 | Kebinusan | so I was trying to find a new bag mod to replace engbag |
| 13:15.13 | haste | engbag isn't that the one which makes memory increase rate go crazy on each bag change? |
| 13:15.21 | Kebinusan | yeah |
| 13:15.53 | Kebinusan | its a nice idea, and I like it, but ugh.. it uses more memory than dab |
| 13:16.06 | haste | hehe |
| 13:16.28 | Mikma | so, can RaidTargets put to horde if you are alliance? |
| 13:16.35 | Kebinusan | sadly no |
| 13:16.45 | haste | which is a good thing IMO |
| 13:16.52 | haste | think of WSG with... |
| 13:16.57 | Kebinusan | yeah, no kill on site targets |
| 13:17.04 | Kebinusan | or tag the shaman who just got the flag, etc |
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| 13:27.47 | Kaelten | good top of the mornin all! |
| 13:28.01 | Kebinusan | mornin |
| 13:29.22 | Neronix | morning |
| 13:31.23 | Kaelten | One bag is almost done |
| 13:32.07 | Kebinusan | so what makes it different than say... bagnon |
| 13:33.15 | Mikma | it's made by Kaelten? |
| 13:33.32 | haste | it's maintained by Kael? |
| 13:33.43 | CIA-7 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3725 10AceUtils/Table-2.0/AceUtils-Table-2.0.lua: AceUtils - Table: Updated credits for :DestroyTable() |
| 13:33.43 | Kebinusan | yeah yeah ok ok :-) I get it |
| 13:34.42 | Kaelten | The new OneBag dynamically creates its slots so you don't have any more in memory than you actually need. :) |
| 13:34.43 | Neronix | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceUtils-Table-2.0_Documentation - Best example ever :P |
| 13:34.52 | Neronix | better than poop-flinging monkeys :P |
| 13:35.10 | snurre | meh, time to swap back to LUF from ouf2 i guess, since the ToT isnt working :/ |
| 13:35.14 | Kebinusan | sounds like a good selling point to me |
| 13:35.54 | Kaelten | its warmup numbers are currently .021 secs and 364kb |
| 13:36.10 | haste | snurre, it wans't fixed with what I commited yesterday either? |
| 13:36.30 | [Ammo] | haste: it wasn't working for me an hour agao |
| 13:36.32 | Kebinusan | <-- cringed when he looked at the warmup numbers from engbag |
| 13:36.34 | [Ammo] | or rather it worked half |
| 13:36.38 | [Ammo] | sometimes it stopped working |
| 13:36.45 | [Ammo] | retarget -> tot back |
| 13:37.45 | Gngsk | anyone here familiar with how squishy works? |
| 13:37.48 | Gngsk | got a quick question |
| 13:38.12 | Kebinusan | pazzazz |
| 13:38.19 | Gngsk | no |
| 13:38.40 | Kebinusan | :-) |
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| 13:39.21 | snurre | haste: hm, lemme update and see |
| 13:44.27 | Kaelten | ohw bad where enginv's numbers? |
| 13:45.26 | Kaelten | what kinda screen ya got moon? |
| 13:45.59 | snurre | updated ouf from svn |
| 13:46.01 | snurre | now it bugs |
| 13:46.11 | snurre | in raid so dont have time to check it too much |
| 13:46.37 | Kaelten | do we have an ace'd ctmail mod? |
| 13:46.53 | haste | BulkMail |
| 13:46.59 | haste | it replaces the mail part |
| 13:47.07 | haste | but not grabbing of mails |
| 13:47.37 | Kaelten | darn the grabbing of mails is what I use the most. |
| 13:47.48 | Kaelten | my modding character is also a auction mule |
| 13:47.49 | Mikma | why not use CT_MailMod then? :) |
| 13:47.49 | Kaelten | :) |
| 13:47.51 | Mikma | it's rather good |
| 13:48.08 | Kaelten | I do, but was curious to see if ours was better memory wise:) |
| 13:52.49 | Neronix | http://www.weebls-stuff.com/games/Mouse+Balancing/ |
| 13:54.22 | Neronix | 68.56 >.> |
| 13:54.39 | Kaelten | oh now thats just cool if you use ipairs it skips over the non integer indexed values |
| 13:57.22 | haste | Neronix, that game isn't designed for laptops :< |
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| 14:13.52 | Tem | cladhaire, which event fires to tell me people in my party/raid have been debuffed? |
| 14:13.55 | Mikma | lol wtf, Rogue's Detect Traps is now passive |
| 14:14.09 | Tem | didn't read the patch notes? |
| 14:14.21 | Mikma | did not read the rogue since didn't interest me that much |
| 14:14.36 | Tem | cladhaire, *poke* |
| 14:14.36 | haste | Tem, isn't it UNIT_AURA ? |
| 14:14.48 | Tem | that's kinda what I think Haste |
| 14:15.24 | Tem | just want to confirm with a few people who have actually written unitframes-- like you |
| 14:17.02 | Tem | oh well, I've gotta run and hide again |
| 14:17.13 | Tem | hopefully I'll be back in here before next wee |
| 14:17.13 | Tem | k |
| 14:17.16 | Tem | later guys |
| 14:17.19 | CIA-7 | 03cladhaire * r3726 10Clique/Clique.lua: |
| 14:17.19 | CIA-7 | Clique: |
| 14:17.19 | CIA-7 | * Added the ability for a plugin to specify a new set of click-castings and make them available. |
| 14:17.19 | CIA-7 | * RegisterModule() now accepts module.clickSet = "SomeClickSetName" |
| 14:17.19 | CIA-7 | * Clique:OnClick() now accepts a third argument "set" which specifies the |
| 14:17.20 | CIA-7 | * click set to use |
| 14:17.27 | Tekcub | damnit tem |
| 14:17.31 | Tekcub | give us iTem |
| 14:18.07 | Tem | ok, really gotta go now |
| 14:18.15 | Tem | I'm being yelled at to get ready faster |
| 14:18.25 | Tekcub | whateva! |
| 14:18.33 | Industrial | Tem: have fun ! |
| 14:18.43 | Industrial | :-_) |
| 14:20.23 | Mikma | now the horde quit the WSG :( |
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| 14:22.48 | Industrial | Mikma: kek |
| 14:22.52 | Industrial | camp their ass |
| 14:22.58 | Industrial | at the respawn |
| 14:22.59 | Industrial | ;D |
| 14:23.36 | Mikma | Industrial: well hard to since they don't go to lvl20-29 wsg |
| 14:23.42 | Industrial | :( |
| 14:23.43 | Mikma | i've been waiting for 40mins now |
| 14:24.00 | Industrial | try at 1900 |
| 14:24.19 | Industrial | go get some twink items |
| 14:24.20 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:25.03 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/templates/twinks/20-29/hunter |
| 14:25.12 | Industrial | unfinished but might be useful for you too |
| 14:25.18 | CIA-7 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3727 10AceUtils/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:25.18 | CIA-7 | AceUtils |
| 14:25.18 | CIA-7 | Table: Credit removed for :DestroyTable() and replaced with note that it's public domain |
| 14:25.18 | CIA-7 | Maths: Optimisations to methods that take values either as a table or as a bunch of args |
| 14:25.30 | Neronix | K, enough coding |
| 14:25.38 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:25.45 | Neronix | Must level >.> |
| 14:28.22 | [Wobin] | meh |
| 14:28.25 | [Wobin] | I'm a lousy aoefarmer |
| 14:28.59 | Neronix | Aoe... |
| 14:29.01 | Neronix | Hmm |
| 14:29.11 | Industrial | AoE :P |
| 14:29.21 | Neronix | Can warlocks aoe grind efficiently? |
| 14:29.22 | Mikma | AE |
| 14:29.33 | Industrial | hmm in dark age of camelot you had this caster class with PBAoE spells |
| 14:29.43 | Kebinusan | Neronix, yes |
| 14:29.44 | Industrial | tanks ran for him |
| 14:29.45 | Kebinusan | ~moredots |
| 14:29.47 | purl | Run to the centre! |
| 14:29.47 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:29.58 | Kebinusan | ~moredots |
| 14:29.59 | purl | NOW HANDLE IT!! |
| 14:30.00 | Neronix | Kebinusan: Ok, thanks. I'll give it a try |
| 14:30.04 | Neronix | ~deadpeople |
| 14:30.06 | purl | I'm f*cking 39 degrees temperature! |
| 14:30.09 | cladhaire | later folks, off to a graduation party |
| 14:30.12 | Industrial | Point Blank Area Of Effect, so it begins at your position and spreads out in a circle |
| 14:30.16 | Industrial | clad|afk: bye |
| 14:30.19 | Neronix | bye |
| 14:30.45 | Industrial | it was funny cause you had this really little dude running at some big plate wearing people and they ran |
| 14:31.02 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:31.16 | Industrial | and the minstrel, how i miss the minstrel |
| 14:31.46 | Industrial | The minstrel uses instruments to buff people and himself and to mezz the enemy |
| 14:31.48 | Neronix | I remember in RO with my old wizard |
| 14:32.05 | Neronix | I'd be in GHGHY kiting prisoners |
| 14:32.26 | Neronix | I'd go into the little walkway in the middle, icewall twice and then SG twice ^^ |
| 14:32.36 | Industrial | oh yeah the walls |
| 14:32.37 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:32.50 | Industrial | I remember the lag in cities >_> |
| 14:32.55 | Neronix | And the people who were sitting there regening would stare in awe |
| 14:33.13 | Neronix | Heh, the servers I played on were too small for that |
| 14:33.18 | Wobin | Tekcub: We need to add Managems to Corkfu |
| 14:33.27 | Mikma | hmm |
| 14:33.37 | Mikma | where can i find a good version of GhostBar? |
| 14:33.52 | Kebinusan | I'd be interesting if corkfu had a raidleader mode |
| 14:34.02 | Kebinusan | so you could see what buffs the raid was missing even if you couldnt cast them |
| 14:34.12 | Mikma | CorkFu needs a priority-list |
| 14:34.41 | Iceroth | corkfu needs to stop choking my comp when the entire raid gets some debuff |
| 14:34.53 | Kebinusan | is that corkfu that does that? |
| 14:35.01 | Kebinusan | Id been tryin to figure out what it was |
| 14:35.02 | Iceroth | at least did for me |
| 14:35.26 | Kebinusan | I'll disable it and see if if it does the trick for me |
| 14:36.18 | Iceroth | after my 1st bug family fight with corkfu i stopped using it :-/ |
| 14:37.02 | Kebinusan | yeah I was getting weird lag on the penis/whirly bitch packs after twin emps I couldnt quite explain |
| 14:37.27 | Iceroth | heh, we ain't there yet, emps at 11% |
| 14:37.37 | Kebinusan | thats pretty close |
| 14:37.49 | Kebinusan | you guys have a caster tank one or just battle shout tank with a warrior"? |
| 14:38.30 | Iceroth | we've been using lock to tank the caster mob but i guess we'll try with warrior next time, lock has always been melee'd to death by the caster mob |
| 14:39.56 | Kebinusan | yeah we tried that for the first time this week, didnt go well, made about four attempts at it, then went back to warriors... we just have a caster get aggro for the first 30 seconds of the fight |
| 14:40.09 | Kebinusan | so annoying to sit around with a full mana pool for 15 minutes |
| 14:40.40 | Iceroth | i suppose the mutated bugs don't really pose a problem.. |
| 14:41.04 | Kebinusan | nope |
| 14:41.14 | Kebinusan | all the casters just sitting around waiting for somethign to kill |
| 14:41.39 | Iceroth | lua question: string indexing starts at 1 but table indexes start at 0? |
| 14:42.34 | Wobin | no |
| 14:42.36 | Wobin | both at 1 |
| 14:43.20 | MoonWolf | Kaelten, 19" tft |
| 14:46.23 | Industrial | http://pastebin.ca/76378 |
| 14:46.28 | Industrial | theres something wrong with this code |
| 14:46.36 | Industrial | Buffs[i] is not being set |
| 14:46.40 | Industrial | but why |
| 14:46.41 | Industrial | :| |
| 14:47.05 | Mikma | clearallpoints? |
| 14:47.24 | Industrial | no, Buffs[i] is false |
| 14:47.33 | Wobin | Debuffs:ClearAllPoints()? |
| 14:47.56 | Industrial | im doing that |
| 14:47.58 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:48.02 | Wobin | cause one is Buffs['1'] and the other Buffs[2]? |
| 14:48.11 | Industrial | ahh |
| 14:48.17 | Industrial | hmm |
| 14:48.29 | Neronix | WoWHead launched |
| 14:48.30 | Neronix | zomg |
| 14:48.33 | Industrial | then how do i set them correctly |
| 14:48.37 | Mikma | zomg! |
| 14:48.54 | Industrial | Neronix: did some time ago, Im uploading my cache already |
| 14:48.59 | Industrial | 10k items or so? |
| 14:48.59 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:49.29 | Neronix | I only just noticed they launched now |
| 14:49.40 | Mikma | is there ace'd version of ghostbar? |
| 14:49.44 | Wobin | Buffs[1]? |
| 14:50.05 | Wobin | And I don't see how Debuffs:ClearAllPoints is supposed to work |
| 14:50.09 | Wobin | since Debuffs is a table |
| 14:50.40 | Industrial | no its a frame |
| 14:50.46 | Industrial | (but a frame is a table) |
| 14:51.22 | Industrial | you can do frame1 = createframe() frame1.frame2 = createframe |
| 14:51.35 | Industrial | I think its the [i] thingy |
| 14:52.10 | Industrial | asking in #lua about that |
| 14:53.28 | Wobin | Why are you using Debuffs['1'] anyway? |
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| 14:54.12 | Industrial | Well, how else am I going to access them? I'm not giving the frames a name |
| 14:54.33 | Wobin | Debuffs[1]? |
| 14:55.01 | Wobin | you're creating a hash with a key of '1' otherwise |
| 14:55.21 | Industrial | ah I was confused last nigt avout wether I could use numbers as keys |
| 14:55.25 | Industrial | so i can |
| 14:55.34 | Industrial | testing :-) |
| 14:55.45 | Kebinusan | mmm clique looks like alot of fun |
| 14:56.26 | Iceroth | clique gives me a lot of trouble :s |
| 14:56.44 | Kebinusan | only works for frames though right? you cant like use it by clicking directly on a player? |
| 14:56.45 | Iceroth | doesn't play well with lucenunitframe |
| 14:57.29 | Kebinusan | yeah Im not using a unit frame really atm |
| 14:57.37 | Kebinusan | just dhud |
| 14:57.43 | Kebinusan | and praid |
| 14:57.55 | Industrial | Im using idUnitframes :-) |
| 14:57.58 | Industrial | just kidding :p |
| 14:58.15 | Industrial | I use the default unitframes atm |
| 14:58.17 | Iceroth | praid and archud but archud party rings are kinda hard to see so i have lucen for those |
| 15:00.39 | Iceroth | btw, why is it (is it?) necassary to call ClearAllPoints() right after you've created a frame? |
| 15:03.03 | Industrial | I think because to be shown at all it has to have points, and frames are as large as UIParent when they are created |
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| 15:09.28 | Thrae | *yawn* |
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| 15:09.52 | Mikma | Thrae: it's still buggy |
| 15:10.32 | Mikma | Thrae: and, does the latest work with monkeyquest? |
| 15:11.32 | Amadeo | TinyTip is 80k now! |
| 15:11.57 | Thrae | Yes, but you can delete the parts you don't use. |
| 15:12.24 | Thrae | Mikma: If you go into those mods and put TinyTip as an OptionalDeps |
| 15:12.31 | Mikma | ok |
| 15:12.42 | Mikma | will try it now |
| 15:13.51 | Mikma | Thrae: but, the rank on items-bug still exists |
| 15:15.12 | Mikma | Thrae: aye, with optionaldeps it works like it should |
| 15:17.20 | Amadeo | Are there any Auctioneer alternatives besides KCI? |
| 15:18.35 | Mikma | auctioneeraddon.com |
| 15:19.37 | Mikma | Thrae: i was about to hack TinyTip to have a Anchor :P |
| 15:19.48 | Amadeo | Mikma: That's Auctioneer :P |
| 15:20.02 | Thrae | Right now I'm more concerned with the DB errors. |
| 15:20.46 | Amadeo | Thrae: I haven't had any TinyTip SVN errors yet |
| 15:20.52 | Amadeo | what's wrong with it? |
| 15:20.53 | Mikma | me neither |
| 15:21.57 | Industrial | back |
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| 15:54.51 | Amadeo | So Auctioneer is still the best for that stuff? |
| 15:57.50 | Mikma | propably, or KC_Items |
| 15:57.59 | Wobin | I need someone to level with |
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| 16:04.03 | Amadeo | Mikma: Which do you use? |
| 16:04.38 | Amadeo | Kaelten's gone, you can be honest! ;) |
| 16:08.19 | Wobin | I use KCI |
| 16:08.43 | Wobin | Since the item database is used elsewhere, I may as well use the auctioneer functionality |
| 16:09.42 | Amadeo | Wobin: What do you mean the item database is used elsewhere? |
| 16:09.55 | Wobin | For like linking to chat etc |
| 16:10.05 | Amadeo | oh yeah |
| 16:10.09 | Wobin | I assume all that info is linked |
| 16:10.11 | Mikma | Amadeo: none :P |
| 16:10.13 | Wobin | (it'd make sense) |
| 16:10.20 | Mikma | oh man wtf is going on |
| 16:10.29 | Wobin | Diseased walruses? |
| 16:10.36 | Mikma | every time i hit someone in catform i hear a priest-shield voice |
| 16:11.00 | Mikma | (Claw) |
| 16:11.14 | Wobin | priest shield voice? |
| 16:11.20 | Mikma | yeah |
| 16:11.29 | Mikma | the one that comes when you shield yourseld, "doing* |
| 16:19.11 | Industrial | Why aren't my buffs showing >_< |
| 16:21.10 | Wobin | sigh |
| 16:21.19 | Wobin | If the forums were faster, I'd probably post more =P |
| 16:21.56 | Tuplad | um btw |
| 16:22.01 | Tuplad | TinyTip conflicts with Target Tell |
| 16:22.04 | Tuplad | both are /tt |
| 16:22.18 | Tain | Yep if you do want both you have to change one. |
| 16:22.35 | hyperChipmunk | i just changed SLASH_TINYTIP2 in the chatlocale to /tinytip |
| 16:24.20 | Gngsk | ckknight, you around? |
| 16:25.07 | Neronix | Oh, England's fucked :P |
| 16:25.12 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 16:25.12 | Neronix | Rooney sent off |
| 16:25.14 | Amadeo | bah |
| 16:25.21 | Neronix | Beckham substituted for some reason |
| 16:25.24 | hyperChipmunk | injury |
| 16:25.45 | hyperChipmunk | rooney kicked the portugese dude in the balls while he was down |
| 16:25.46 | Gngsk | What's does the rating limit mean in HonorFU? |
| 16:25.49 | Neronix | :O |
| 16:26.15 | CIA-7 | 03wobin * r3728 10PaintBall/PaintBall.lua: PaintBall - Fixed a compost reference |
| 16:26.15 | hyperChipmunk | it's the maximum rank a person your level can get |
| 16:26.33 | Neronix | Fuck England |
| 16:26.36 | Neronix | Italy FTW! |
| 16:27.04 | Industrial | soccer-- |
| 16:27.19 | Gngsk | thx hC |
| 16:27.45 | hyperChipmunk | certainly |
| 16:27.58 | Gngsk | hmm |
| 16:28.02 | Gngsk | sure that's not the rank limit? |
| 16:28.07 | Gngsk | I don't personally use that plugin |
| 16:28.11 | Gngsk | but a guild mate is asking |
| 16:28.18 | Gngsk | says the rating limit is 65000 |
| 16:28.20 | hyperChipmunk | it's the same |
| 16:28.35 | hyperChipmunk | rating of 65000 is full rank 14 |
| 16:28.46 | hyperChipmunk | if you were like level 30 |
| 16:29.02 | hyperChipmunk | it would be less |
| 16:29.07 | hyperChipmunk | because you can't be rank 14 at level 30 |
| 16:29.21 | Industrial | too bad |
| 16:29.22 | Industrial | :p |
| 16:29.28 | Gngsk | heh |
| 16:29.34 | Industrial | getting the same honour in all bg's would be cool |
| 16:29.35 | Industrial | :p' |
| 16:29.37 | Gngsk | ok, that makes more sense then |
| 16:29.43 | hyperChipmunk | 'rating' is the numerical result in the honor equation that determines your rank |
| 16:30.19 | snurre | weekly honor decay is Rating * 20% |
| 16:30.20 | hyperChipmunk | 60000+ = rank 14, 55000-55999 = rank 13, 50000-54999 = rank 12, ... |
| 16:30.44 | snurre | and weekly standing 1 gives you 13000 rating |
| 16:31.10 | Amadeo | You know |
| 16:31.12 | Amadeo | Honor is so weird |
| 16:31.17 | hyperChipmunk | the theoretical limit of the equation is 65000 |
| 16:31.28 | Amadeo | my friend was rank 3, level 54...he pushed 130,000 honor one week, and only made it to rank 4 |
| 16:31.34 | snurre | standing is all that matters |
| 16:31.36 | Mikma | lol clever hunter |
| 16:31.39 | hyperChipmunk | honor is nothing |
| 16:31.41 | snurre | not contribution points |
| 16:31.45 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 16:31.46 | Mikma | he's shooting flightmaster and using FD after |
| 16:31.52 | Amadeo | Honor = Contribution now |
| 16:31.56 | Amadeo | I'm not talking about HKs |
| 16:31.58 | Mikma | he has gathered now 20-30 birds in one stack already |
| 16:32.07 | snurre | hk doesnt matter, honor doesnt matter, standing does matter |
| 16:32.09 | Tuplad | but wtf IS the rating limit ? I dont get it |
| 16:32.21 | hyperChipmunk | it's the highest rating a person your level can get |
| 16:32.26 | hyperChipmunk | since rating determines rank |
| 16:32.29 | Tuplad | what rating ? |
| 16:32.33 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Is there a penalty for non-60's? |
| 16:32.37 | Tuplad | oh, you mean on honor page like 1337 etc |
| 16:32.40 | snurre | your honor rating.. <hyperChipmunk> 60000+ = rank 14, 55000-55999 = rank 13, 50000-54999 = rank 12, ... |
| 16:32.41 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 16:32.46 | Amadeo | what's the penalty? |
| 16:32.52 | Mikma | Thrae: people are whining that /tt overrides targettell |
| 16:33.02 | Amadeo | Yeah, I don't like /tt for TinyTip either :P |
| 16:33.03 | hyperChipmunk | you just get less honor |
| 16:33.05 | hyperChipmunk | but the point is |
| 16:33.22 | Tuplad | :\ |
| 16:33.25 | hyperChipmunk | if you're 130000 honor and standing 50, then it means nothing |
| 16:33.31 | hyperChipmunk | honor only counts AFTER standing |
| 16:33.43 | Amadeo | but isn't standing 50 pretty damn good for rank 3? |
| 16:33.44 | snurre | honor determines standing, standing determines rating gain |
| 16:33.47 | Thrae | Hmm |
| 16:34.03 | hyperChipmunk | honor determines what portion of the 130000 you get after rank 1 |
| 16:34.10 | hyperChipmunk | er, 13000 |
| 16:34.15 | Thrae | I could make it /tit ;) |
| 16:34.15 | Tuplad | and how do I find out my rating ? |
| 16:34.21 | hyperChipmunk | it's on the pvp ranking page |
| 16:34.22 | Tuplad | do that thrae :d |
| 16:34.26 | Tuplad | hyperChipmunk: kk lets see |
| 16:34.34 | hyperChipmunk | or just divide out what percentage of your pvp rank you're at |
| 16:34.48 | Iceroth | am i the only one who can't get guild/friend background working with tit? |
| 16:35.00 | hyperChipmunk | if you're 50% through rank 13, your rating will be about 57500 |
| 16:35.06 | Tuplad | 98.43% rank 7 |
| 16:36.11 | hyperChipmunk | so you're at approximately .9843 * 5000 + 25000 rating |
| 16:36.34 | Tuplad | o_O |
| 16:36.40 | hyperChipmunk | so 29921 |
| 16:36.45 | hyperChipmunk | there's some rounding errors usually |
| 16:36.45 | Tuplad | .9843, not 98.43 ? |
| 16:36.47 | hyperChipmunk | but that's close |
| 16:36.51 | Amadeo | I always thought rating was based on other peoples honor gain |
| 16:36.54 | snurre | .9843 = 98.43% |
| 16:37.12 | hyperChipmunk | it is |
| 16:37.12 | Tuplad | where did u get the 25000 from ? |
| 16:37.16 | snurre | your standing |
| 16:37.17 | hyperChipmunk | the rank below you |
| 16:37.34 | snurre | rank 0 = 0 rank1 = 5000 rank2 = 10000 rank3 = 15000 etc |
| 16:37.43 | hyperChipmunk | rank 1 is actually 15000 |
| 16:37.46 | Amadeo | are they defined? |
| 16:37.47 | hyperChipmunk | and it goes from there |
| 16:37.59 | hyperChipmunk | Tuplad: you're 98.43% from 25000 to 30000 |
| 16:38.07 | Tuplad | aaah |
| 16:38.31 | Amadeo | What is Rank Limit? |
| 16:38.46 | snurre | the highest rating you can get at a given level |
| 16:38.50 | hyperChipmunk | if you're level 50, you can only get to like rank 10 |
| 16:39.08 | Amadeo | I could go from Rank 5 to 10 in a week? I'd have to get like 2,000,000 honor |
| 16:39.08 | Tuplad | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Honor_System |
| 16:39.28 | hyperChipmunk | you can't |
| 16:39.29 | snurre | at 60, that's 65000.. since weekly decay is 20% of your rating and standing 1 is 13000, you will gain 0 rating if you already have 65000 |
| 16:39.34 | hyperChipmunk | you can't gain more than 13000 rating |
| 16:39.38 | Amadeo | I've been like 6 in standing before, and I didn't even go up a rank |
| 16:40.04 | snurre | Amadeo: i spent 9 weeks at rank12, standing 9-2 every week |
| 16:40.15 | hyperChipmunk | the portion of 13000 you get in a week is determined by the ratio of your honor to the honor received by the #1 standing that week |
| 16:40.15 | Tuplad | hyperChipmunk: (98.43 * 5 000) + 25 000 = 517 150 that's the amount of honor I need for something ? |
| 16:40.25 | Mikma | rank-gank |
| 16:40.28 | snurre | before they tuned rating gain at standing <1 tho |
| 16:40.48 | hyperChipmunk | 0.9843, not 98.43 |
| 16:40.49 | Amadeo | Does the #1 standing guy affect how much it takes for someone to get Rank 1? |
| 16:41.06 | snurre | 98.43% = 0.9843 |
| 16:41.07 | Tuplad | :O |
| 16:41.12 | snurre | 100% = 1 ;) |
| 16:41.18 | Tuplad | (0.9843 * 5 000) + 25 000 = 29 921.5 |
| 16:41.21 | Tuplad | now what ? |
| 16:41.23 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 16:41.38 | hyperChipmunk | now, that should be approximately the rating you have on the pvp page |
| 16:41.43 | Tuplad | aha |
| 16:41.45 | hyperChipmunk | at worldofwarcraft.com |
| 16:41.51 | Tuplad | aaah I see |
| 16:41.52 | Neronix | Amadeo: It's always 25hks for rank 1 |
| 16:42.06 | Tuplad | but I still dont understand what it's good for :) |
| 16:42.21 | snurre | it's for calcing decay etc |
| 16:42.32 | hyperChipmunk | and that number will be decayed 20% on Tuesday, and up to 13000 will be added to it, depending on your standing, for next week's honor |
| 16:43.12 | Amadeo | Neronix: Really? I could go make a level 1, get 25 HK's in a group and get rank 1 next week? |
| 16:43.15 | hyperChipmunk | if that total is greater than 30000, you will go up to rank 8 |
| 16:43.23 | snurre | think of it as one, long continous bar, starting at 15000 and ending at 65000, divided into 14 segments of 5k each |
| 16:43.46 | Tuplad | 29.921.5 will be daceded by 20% or my procents ? |
| 16:43.53 | snurre | your standing gives you X amount of standing points, progressing the bar, but the weekly decay deducts 20% of what you previously had. |
| 16:43.54 | hyperChipmunk | 29921 |
| 16:44.45 | snurre | next week you'll lose 29921*0.2 = 5984 rating points, that's what you need to stay at your current position |
| 16:44.47 | Neronix | Amadeo: Probably |
| 16:45.02 | Industrial | Cant we make an addon that calculates 'kills to rank' ? |
| 16:45.35 | snurre | impossible, as kills or honor matters nothing.. it all depends on your standing (which is your placement in the "who gained most honor last week" competition) |
| 16:46.07 | snurre | one week you can get standing 1 with 300k honor and 2000hk, the next week you might need 1mill hk and 10000hk |
| 16:46.23 | snurre | but both weeks (if you get standing1) you'll gain 13000 rating points |
| 16:46.41 | Amadeo | but you don't get standing without honor |
| 16:46.44 | snurre | yes |
| 16:46.49 | Amadeo | So honor matters most |
| 16:47.07 | snurre | honor matters for determining your standing, it is all relative to your competition |
| 16:47.26 | Amadeo | Right, but if you gain more honor, you have a higher chance of getting a better standing |
| 16:47.30 | snurre | honor is a race, standing is the final results, rating is the reward |
| 16:47.45 | snurre | indeed, amadeo |
| 16:48.14 | snurre | like when i was getting my rank14, the last weeks we simply arranged who got X standing, to optimize the rank gain for those who were in our raid |
| 16:48.25 | Amadeo | that's why I don't understand why someone pushing 130,000 honor in a week only went from rank 3 to 4 instead of 3 to 5 :) |
| 16:48.42 | snurre | because maybe the entire server got more honor in general that week |
| 16:49.11 | Amadeo | so if standing 1 pushed 2 million honor one week, then it fucks everyone over? |
| 16:49.18 | snurre | 130k honor might lead you to standing 1 a week, if there's very little action and nobody grinding.. but if there are others who gain more, it might only give you standing 1000 |
| 16:50.03 | snurre | the *amount* of honor means nothing for your rating gain, it only gives you a standing.. standing1 gains 2mill, standing 2 gains 500k.. they both will earn the same amount as if standing1 gained 500k and standing2 400k |
| 16:50.08 | Tuplad | european honor site not working ? =_= |
| 16:50.13 | snurre | Tuplad: never works |
| 16:50.16 | Tuplad | bah |
| 16:50.40 | snurre | european wow site might very well be the least stable website in the history of the internet |
| 16:51.02 | Tuplad | :D could be |
| 16:51.32 | Amadeo | I see what you're saying |
| 16:51.44 | Amadeo | but people get an idea of what others are pushing |
| 16:51.51 | Amadeo | so they all get more honor |
| 16:51.56 | snurre | yeah |
| 16:52.10 | snurre | which means you have to push more too, to get the standing you want |
| 16:52.18 | snurre | and that all ends up in the big flaw of the honor system imo |
| 16:52.21 | Amadeo | Almost every rank 14 I know hasn't done it on their own |
| 16:52.23 | snurre | you compete with your teammates |
| 16:52.29 | Amadeo | they usually have 2-5 people playing their account |
| 16:52.34 | snurre | <-- didnt |
| 16:53.08 | *** join/#wowace hyperChipmunk (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 16:53.08 | Amadeo | I liked the DAoC system...everyone could make rank, it just took longer |
| 16:53.08 | snurre | nobody else has ever had access to my account, and im quite sure it'll stay that way :p |
| 16:53.12 | snurre | yep |
| 16:53.14 | snurre | way better |
| 16:53.21 | snurre | wow honor is, and has always been, fucked. |
| 16:53.51 | Amadeo | They should just do this...leave in a Ladder system that determines your title...but allow people to gain high "rank" to gain rewards without competing with each other |
| 16:54.16 | hyperChipmunk | they do |
| 16:54.21 | hyperChipmunk | it's faction rewards |
| 16:54.21 | Amadeo | no |
| 16:54.28 | hyperChipmunk | you get more faction for winning |
| 16:54.41 | Amadeo | there's only a few good rewards for that |
| 16:54.59 | Amadeo | they should let everyone be able to get rank 14 rewards, but it should just take longer, like DAoC had it |
| 16:55.02 | hyperChipmunk | there's lots of good rewards |
| 16:55.12 | Mikma | PlaySound("igBonusBarOpen"); |
| 16:55.14 | Mikma | i hate that sound |
| 16:55.18 | Mikma | will nuke it soon :P |
| 16:56.29 | hyperChipmunk | every piece of equipment I had was a pvp reward in some form or another when I reached rank 14 |
| 16:57.15 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: The PvP rewards in general are decent, but not that great overall...I guess it varies by class though |
| 16:57.34 | Amadeo | Warriors don't get enough strength on their sets |
| 16:57.37 | Amadeo | it's all Stamina |
| 16:57.59 | hyperChipmunk | it's not pve gear |
| 16:58.23 | Amadeo | Exactly |
| 16:58.29 | Iceroth | sorry to interrupt your pvp discussion but lemme just ask this: is this .prototype thing in Ace2 just a way around that you don't have real classes and lua? |
| 16:58.31 | Amadeo | So why's it all Stamina? :P |
| 16:58.39 | hyperChipmunk | because sta > all in pvp |
| 16:58.46 | Amadeo | not when you can't do any damage |
| 16:59.00 | Amadeo | I bet the Hunter set has tons of Stamina *AND* Agility |
| 16:59.02 | Amadeo | right? |
| 16:59.11 | hyperChipmunk | you're one of those 'killshots ftw' pvpers? |
| 16:59.33 | Amadeo | Well if I'm a Warrior, I'm not going to be using a shield in PvP unless I have the flag or something |
| 16:59.36 | Amadeo | so... |
| 17:00.18 | Amadeo | if you have 300 stamina and 100 strength, and I have 200 stamina and 200 strength, I'm going to beat you |
| 17:00.36 | snurre | <3 warr pvp set :p |
| 17:01.05 | hyperChipmunk | yea, you are |
| 17:01.10 | hyperChipmunk | what rank are you? |
| 17:01.12 | snurre | http://ctprofiles.net/1652113 |
| 17:01.49 | Amadeo | Me? My Warrior is 54 still |
| 17:01.51 | hyperChipmunk | wow pvp is group pvp |
| 17:01.57 | snurre | it's grinding |
| 17:01.59 | hyperChipmunk | it's not solo combat |
| 17:02.14 | Amadeo | So a Warriors job is to stand around while people attack casters? |
| 17:02.16 | hyperChipmunk | nobody cares about 300sta/100str vs. 200sta/200str |
| 17:02.18 | Amadeo | You have to be able to deal damage too |
| 17:02.21 | Wobin | I need a good name for a warlock |
| 17:02.24 | Amadeo | Nobody just goes and attacks a Warrior |
| 17:02.25 | snurre | Overnuker |
| 17:02.31 | Amadeo | Warrior has to contribute by dealing damage |
| 17:02.36 | Amadeo | or else you're not helping |
| 17:02.45 | Wobin | snurre: I'm on a RP realm =P |
| 17:02.50 | Amadeo | 300 stamina does nothing when a Warlock is killing your Priest |
| 17:02.51 | hyperChipmunk | a warrior's job is to carry the flag and stand on the banners in ab interrupting anyone who channels and not dying ever |
| 17:03.12 | hyperChipmunk | warriors are so annoying in AB |
| 17:03.16 | Amadeo | I like Druids carrying the flag :P |
| 17:03.54 | hyperChipmunk | if you're not carrying the flag, you should be hamstringing everyone chasing the flag |
| 17:04.20 | hyperChipmunk | kills are entirely useless in wsg |
| 17:04.26 | Amadeo | I dunno, there's a Warrior on Eredar with great end-game gear, he has healers follow him around and takes down like 20 people at once :P |
| 17:04.58 | Tuplad | amadeo I bet he has skills |
| 17:05.00 | hyperChipmunk | hurray for him; nobody cares about kills |
| 17:05.08 | Amadeo | if you don't kill, you don't win |
| 17:05.14 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 17:05.28 | Amadeo | in your games, nobody dies? |
| 17:05.45 | Tuplad | amadeo: in my games, I ignore horde :) |
| 17:05.54 | Tuplad | we just deliver 3 flags |
| 17:06.07 | Amadeo | Well, usually Horde attacks when you get their flag :P |
| 17:06.10 | Tuplad | our defense team does all the killing job |
| 17:06.13 | Amadeo | so you just let them live? :P |
| 17:06.23 | hyperChipmunk | if they're casters, you drain them and let them live |
| 17:06.25 | Tuplad | amadeo: fear, sheep, nova, fear, bof on me - they gonna attack ? |
| 17:06.29 | hyperChipmunk | if they're not, you crowd-control |
| 17:06.48 | Tuplad | and sapping rogues + I got repentance and hammer of justice :D |
| 17:07.33 | hyperChipmunk | we usually laugh at people who have obviously ridiculous numbers of kills and killing blows |
| 17:07.52 | hyperChipmunk | then we kick them out of the group before requeuing |
| 17:07.58 | Amadeo | I'm not talking about farming KBs |
| 17:08.04 | hyperChipmunk | because they don't know how to pvp |
| 17:08.37 | Tuplad | hyperChipmunk: killing & killing blows arent pvp, well, they were before, but blizzard made BG the real pvp |
| 17:08.55 | snurre | i usually topped the scoreboards in all our games, but i guess that was mainly because i was target #1, so had unlimited amounts of rage :p |
| 17:09.03 | Amadeo | Ok, maybe in WSG you don't have to kill as much |
| 17:09.05 | Tuplad | communication is the key to win - Im not trading someone that cant kill for someone that doesnt talk or is being a rebel =] |
| 17:09.08 | Amadeo | but that's all AB/AV is about |
| 17:09.31 | hyperChipmunk | and Amadeo: the pvp team I run has produced 18 out of 20 grand marshals on the server; I have a bit of an idea what I'm talking about |
| 17:09.45 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: But all you talk about is WSG! |
| 17:09.56 | hyperChipmunk | nope, same is true for AB |
| 17:10.01 | *** join/#wowace mjc_ (n=mjc@c-66-176-173-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 17:10.09 | Tain | The planet I live on has produced 20 out of 20 grand marshals on the server, I know what I'm talking about! |
| 17:10.24 | snurre | nerf your planet |
| 17:10.25 | Amadeo | So you don't kill in AB either? :P |
| 17:10.26 | Amadeo | come on |
| 17:10.29 | Amadeo | you're skewing things now |
| 17:10.31 | hyperChipmunk | the longer you can keep an attacking force alive while defending a node, the more resources you sap from them |
| 17:11.00 | hyperChipmunk | you kill as you need, but a good team knows when NOT to kill |
| 17:11.07 | Amadeo | Linkerator took a 10MB Lootlink file down to 1MB |
| 17:11.08 | hyperChipmunk | and it's more often than you think |
| 17:11.11 | Amadeo | that's pretty awesome |
| 17:11.41 | mjc_ | Amadeo: by doing waht |
| 17:11.42 | mjc_ | what |
| 17:11.45 | hyperChipmunk | battlegrounds are about control, not kills |
| 17:12.02 | Amadeo | mjc_: Linkerator is a small item-linking addon, without the browsing features of Lootlink, etc |
| 17:12.07 | mjc_ | aha |
| 17:12.08 | hyperChipmunk | if a warrior is dead, he's worthless |
| 17:12.13 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: You control the nodes, but when people attack, you have to kill them |
| 17:12.17 | hyperChipmunk | and it only takes one point of damage to interrupt a flag cap |
| 17:12.17 | Industrial | blah cant curse of doom on players? |
| 17:12.20 | Industrial | that sucks |
| 17:12.21 | Industrial | :> |
| 17:12.36 | Industrial | (im reading spells) |
| 17:12.42 | Industrial | hehehe imagine cursing everyone |
| 17:12.44 | Industrial | >:) |
| 17:12.53 | hyperChipmunk | Amadeo: you do it as you need, but it definitely isn't the warrior's job to do so |
| 17:13.12 | Amadeo | So what does the Warrior do? |
| 17:13.16 | hyperChipmunk | he doesn't die |
| 17:13.21 | Amadeo | Yeah, because nobody attacks him |
| 17:13.25 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 17:13.28 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 17:13.30 | hyperChipmunk | so he's free to pick people off the flag |
| 17:13.41 | hyperChipmunk | and fear |
| 17:14.00 | Amadeo | If there's 5 people defending a node, and a bunch of people attack, if people are trying to ninja the node in the middle of it, they're just being stupid |
| 17:14.02 | hyperChipmunk | if you have a warrior you know has no hp, you kill him |
| 17:14.11 | hyperChipmunk | and he's useless |
| 17:14.32 | hyperChipmunk | it's the warriors that don't ever die that you're forced to ignore |
| 17:14.32 | Amadeo | it's much easier for a Mage to sweep by and do one AE than a Warrior to wait on WW cooldown or tab through all the targets |
| 17:16.06 | Amadeo | The thing is, you can get PvE sets that have just as much stamina but more Strength and Agility |
| 17:17.18 | hyperChipmunk | but you can't get them while pvping |
| 17:17.23 | hyperChipmunk | if you pvp, you get pvp sets |
| 17:17.48 | Amadeo | I think you're too used to getting all the stats you need as a Hunter :) |
| 17:18.21 | hyperChipmunk | cuz I pvp; all i care about is sta |
| 17:18.48 | Amadeo | I bet if you wear a set that has all +stamina and no Agility, you won't do well |
| 17:18.49 | hyperChipmunk | a dead hunter with 600 agi is worthless |
| 17:19.03 | Amadeo | You're playing off other stats too much |
| 17:19.05 | hyperChipmunk | sure I will |
| 17:19.11 | Amadeo | Go get a bunch of greens with only +Sta |
| 17:19.14 | Amadeo | and take a video :) |
| 17:19.28 | hyperChipmunk | I play in RP gear, actually |
| 17:19.32 | hyperChipmunk | to be totally honest |
| 17:19.51 | hyperChipmunk | I am El Mynito Bandito, Liberator of Darnassus |
| 17:19.54 | Amadeo | lol |
| 17:20.15 | hyperChipmunk | 90% of my pvp is wing clip and traps |
| 17:20.35 | Amadeo | Warrior rank 10 PvP set has 56 Strength, let me check Stamina |
| 17:21.12 | Amadeo | 130 stamina |
| 17:21.25 | Amadeo | let me check my level 54 gear |
| 17:22.07 | Industrial | now your making me angry >:( (deadmines anyone? :P) |
| 17:22.44 | Amadeo | My level 54 gear has 89 Strength...lol, and... |
| 17:23.48 | Amadeo | 86 Stamina |
| 17:23.57 | Amadeo | and I'm not even 60 |
| 17:24.08 | Amadeo | I also have a lot of Agility |
| 17:25.59 | Amadeo | So by getting 60 and Rank 10, I gain 44 Stamina and lose 33 Strength..and X Agility |
| 17:26.08 | Amadeo | I bet I can do better with instance drops |
| 17:26.49 | Amadeo | Hard to say though, I have to get 60 and see what loot there is first |
| 17:28.54 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/hCpvp.png |
| 17:29.09 | hyperChipmunk | only one I could find |
| 17:30.13 | Amadeo | that's a lot of kills for only a 28 minute WSG |
| 17:30.21 | CIA-7 | 03wobin * r3729 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: |
| 17:30.21 | CIA-7 | FuXP - Added in an intensity slider |
| 17:30.21 | CIA-7 | - flipped the shadow texture properly 180 when changing bars |
| 17:30.21 | CIA-7 | - More details in the 'rep/xp to go' for both text and click events |
| 17:30.38 | hyperChipmunk | only 2 players on our team had more kills than deaths |
| 17:30.50 | Amadeo | are you alliance? |
| 17:30.53 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 17:30.55 | Amadeo | obviously, Darnassus, nevermind |
| 17:30.55 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:30.59 | hyperChipmunk | Mynithrosil |
| 17:31.07 | Amadeo | You should kick Celassar out of your guild! |
| 17:31.20 | Amadeo | wtf is he doing, killing people! PSH! |
| 17:31.37 | hyperChipmunk | playing defense |
| 17:31.37 | Industrial | news flash thats what you 'do' in games |
| 17:31.42 | Amadeo | :) |
| 17:31.51 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:31.54 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: What class is he? |
| 17:32.03 | hyperChipmunk | rog |
| 17:32.21 | hyperChipmunk | we won that game 3-0 |
| 17:32.37 | Amadeo | are they a team or a PUG? |
| 17:34.27 | hyperChipmunk | both are teams, though my team has a few non-regs |
| 17:34.54 | hyperChipmunk | celassar, casketsales, and jeros aren't actually mine |
| 17:35.36 | CIA-7 | 03joshborke * r3730 10HealWatch/ (HealWatch.lua HealWatchEvents.lua HealWatchFrames.lua): |
| 17:35.36 | CIA-7 | HealWatch: getting closer to full dynamic frame creation. |
| 17:35.36 | CIA-7 | - having problems with mouse-over casting. |
| 17:35.53 | Amadeo | Jesus, I can't believe how many tells I get a day for money |
| 17:35.55 | Amadeo | I'm not even 60 |
| 17:36.00 | Amadeo | people want me to give them every penny I have |
| 17:36.07 | Mikma | :) |
| 17:36.26 | Amadeo | I logged in to check my stats and I've gotten 4 tells already |
| 17:36.31 | Amadeo | "plz can I have 3g I need it rly bad" |
| 17:36.32 | Amadeo | etc |
| 17:37.27 | Wobin | "What is this 'plz'"? |
| 17:37.37 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Don't get me wrong, I like stamina, and I think you need a good amount of it as a Warrior...but I like having a balance, or at least enough Strength to get 1000 attack power or so :) |
| 17:37.49 | Wobin | "Why can't you type "Please""? |
| 17:37.55 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:37.58 | mjc_ | amadeo: 'ni hao' |
| 17:38.01 | Wobin | hehe |
| 17:38.13 | Amadeo | I usually ask them why they are abbreviating "Plaza" |
| 17:41.29 | Wobin | "If you feel justified in saying 'plz' because it's shorter than 'please', I feel justified in saying 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'" |
| 17:42.16 | snurre | having a balance between hp, crit, hit and ap is the best imo.. should focus too much on only one part |
| 17:42.31 | Amadeo | What's the Tier 3 Rogue set called? |
| 17:42.40 | hyperChipmunk | bonescythe |
| 17:42.43 | Amadeo | hm |
| 17:42.46 | Amadeo | 2.5? |
| 17:42.52 | steino | Deathdealer |
| 17:42.54 | Amadeo | I'm looking for a name, I don't know what Tier it is |
| 17:43.22 | Amadeo | is it Deathdealer? |
| 17:43.30 | Amadeo | I have a link for [Deathdealer Breastplate] and it's Mail |
| 17:43.40 | snurre | that's a green one or something |
| 17:43.46 | steino | dungeon 1 = Shadowcraft, dungeon 2 = Darkmantle, tier1 = Nightslayer, tier2 = Bloodfang, tier2.5 = Deathdealer, tier3 = bonescythe |
| 17:43.57 | snurre | tier 2.5 is Deathdealer's Blabla |
| 17:43.58 | steino | Amadeo: the chest is called Deathdealer's Vest :) |
| 17:44.05 | Amadeo | ohhh :) |
| 17:44.10 | Amadeo | thank ya |
| 17:44.39 | snurre | ooh, england losing :p |
| 17:44.44 | snurre | \o/ |
| 17:45.19 | steino | we just wiped on trash cause portugeese ppl started yelling :s |
| 17:45.30 | steino | at the english |
| 17:45.37 | snurre | lol |
| 17:45.45 | steino | multinational guild ftw :s |
| 17:45.57 | steino | we even have some hollanders |
| 17:46.09 | steino | so they yell at them too |
| 17:47.17 | snurre | got sweeds, germans, dutchies, spaniards, danes, brits and norwegians in my guild |
| 17:47.58 | CIA-7 | 03otravi 07otravi * r3731 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF_TargetsTarget/targetstarget.lua: oUF2 - A quick fix for the Target's target problem. Will get a better one done later today. |
| 17:48.05 | snurre | \o/ |
| 17:48.35 | haste | the metrognome ticker doesn't stop now however |
| 17:50.30 | hyperChipmunk | I wrote a fixed one right before you switched to Ace2 and it got deleted somewhere on the update =P |
| 17:52.29 | haste | You should have told me =\ |
| 17:52.30 | Thrae | clad, ckknight, or Kaelten awake? |
| 17:52.55 | MoonWolf | kael aint here, clad is afk |
| 17:53.00 | MoonWolf | ckknight is your best bet. |
| 17:53.45 | MoonWolf | steino, why yell at is perfectly insane dutch people ? |
| 17:53.56 | steino | dunno |
| 17:54.05 | Thrae | The version of AceHook in WatchDog is causing a stack overflow if I hook "OnHide" for GameTooltip. |
| 17:54.10 | steino | prolly cause of the football thingy |
| 17:55.53 | steino | but the dutch seems to yell back |
| 17:55.55 | steino | :O |
| 17:57.49 | Tuplad | Omg, 7 Jews added me to their MSN lists this week o_O I dont even know them |
| 17:58.01 | mjc_ | Wobin: ping |
| 17:58.04 | mjc_ | Tuplad: ? |
| 17:58.11 | Wobin | yo? |
| 17:58.16 | Tuplad | people from israel, you know |
| 17:58.23 | mjc_ | israelis? |
| 17:58.27 | Tuplad | yea |
| 17:58.39 | mjc_ | Wobin: lexan + pk = no way to bring pk in front of the AH window |
| 17:58.40 | Tuplad | not same as jews ? |
| 17:58.49 | snurre | hm, the people outside here are either cheering that england lost, or tour de france might be going on around here atm |
| 17:58.51 | Wobin | =\ |
| 17:58.56 | mjc_ | Tuplad: why would it matter what race or religion they are |
| 17:59.43 | Tuplad | mjc_: well, wouldnt you find it weird when suddenly 7 russians add you to their list and start talking about wow ? :O |
| 17:59.55 | mjc_ | no |
| 18:00.10 | Tuplad | :\ aight, but it's weird tho |
| 18:02.00 | Tuplad | who here could actually code lua after reading http://www.lua.org/pil ? |
| 18:02.15 | mjc_ | me |
| 18:02.19 | Wobin | me |
| 18:02.24 | hyperChipmunk | <-- |
| 18:02.32 | hyperChipmunk | pil wins everything |
| 18:02.36 | Tuplad | :o |
| 18:02.41 | Tuplad | with pil and only pil ? |
| 18:03.01 | hyperChipmunk | well, and common programming sense |
| 18:03.16 | Tuplad | :] |
| 18:03.20 | Tuplad | du'uh |
| 18:04.23 | Amadeo | so, I'm about to use Auctioneer...but all I want is the AH part, not anything else |
| 18:04.30 | Amadeo | which folders do I need? |
| 18:04.36 | Tuplad | auctioneer, studdy, enhtooltip |
| 18:04.36 | *** join/#wowace Jens (i=Jens@unaffiliated/jens) |
| 18:04.44 | Amadeo | what's studdy do? |
| 18:04.51 | Tuplad | some shit for auctioneer |
| 18:04.52 | Amadeo | er, it's Stubby! :) |
| 18:04.55 | Amadeo | ok, thanks :) |
| 18:05.01 | Tuplad | dont know what fo' sure |
| 18:05.08 | Tuplad | lets see |
| 18:05.19 | Tuplad | Allows on-demand addons to load automatically based upon simple event notification hooks [3.5.0.0908] This AddOn is licenced under the GNU GPL, see GPL.txt for details. |
| 18:05.41 | Amadeo | does 3.4.3 have the new-ish auction pane that searches other items when you drag em in? |
| 18:05.42 | Tuplad | oh yea, when you start WoW, auctioneer isnt loaded, so you either gotta visit AH or type /auctioneer load |
| 18:05.44 | Amadeo | or only the alpha? |
| 18:05.51 | Tuplad | hm ? |
| 18:05.56 | Tain | 3.4.3 has it. |
| 18:05.57 | kergoth | ~mornings |
| 18:05.59 | purl | Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) |
| 18:05.59 | Amadeo | nice |
| 18:06.06 | Amadeo | Thanks guys |
| 18:06.12 | Tuplad | ;) |
| 18:06.24 | Amadeo | So, I was thinking... |
| 18:06.26 | kergoth | if anyone plays with igor's mass auction, remember to make it load on demand, otherwise itll force the AH to load early |
| 18:06.30 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 18:06.30 | purl | aw, gee, kergoth |
| 18:06.36 | Tuplad | Wobin plays a cow ... ugh |
| 18:06.54 | Wobin | oh that's my testing alt =P |
| 18:06.59 | Tuplad | aha :D |
| 18:07.13 | Tuplad | I wonder, should I replace AceXPBar by FuXP? |
| 18:07.32 | Amadeo | Elkano has that addon that reads your WoW item cache file to view items...as you see new items, I assume it writes them to that WoW cache or whatever....so what about an addon that will import an item database (such as a lootlink 37,000 item database) into your WoW cache file thingy? :P |
| 18:07.49 | Tuplad | they both dont have exp/hour :\ dont think there'll be a difference :p any difference in memory maybe? |
| 18:08.15 | Tuplad | Amadeo: it doesnt write it in there, I think |
| 18:08.20 | Tuplad | cuz on every server I play, I see different items |
| 18:08.26 | Tuplad | on one server 5k, on other 7k |
| 18:08.35 | Amadeo | with ItemDB? |
| 18:08.47 | Tuplad | and basically, I should see the highest amount on all servers, as people share items with you, and they gotta go to itemdb, right ? |
| 18:08.51 | Tuplad | yes |
| 18:09.01 | MoonWolf | Amadeo, the wow cache is an automatic things, its done by the wow client itself, the database by kci is done by that addon, it will only read actually use items that are also in the SERVER cache. |
| 18:09.04 | Amadeo | it only shares items that can be linked on that server, so you never get all the good items |
| 18:09.17 | Tuplad | amadeo: nevar! |
| 18:09.34 | Tuplad | I had hand of ragnaros in itemdb when no1 on the server was even 60 |
| 18:09.41 | snurre | an item can't be linked/viewed until the server has seen at least one since last maintenance |
| 18:09.44 | Jens | I have an idea for a mod... shouldn't take long to create. |
| 18:09.53 | Tuplad | jens: shoot |
| 18:09.54 | Amadeo | MoonWolf: So there's no way to make the WoW client automatically see that you can see all the items in a cache? only if they're server-linkable? |
| 18:09.55 | mjc | so write it |
| 18:10.01 | Jens | Automatically turn off the yell channel in capital cities. |
| 18:10.02 | Tuplad | lol @ mjc |
| 18:10.09 | Tuplad | there is no yell channel |
| 18:10.23 | Tuplad | just right click your chat tab and remove yelling ? o_O |
| 18:10.46 | Amadeo | but I don't even mean to link it, I just mean so you can browse it in another database without having an .lua storage file |
| 18:11.08 | Tuplad | ~confused |
| 18:11.09 | purl | ACTION sings: Been DAZED and CONFUSED for so long it's not true... |
| 18:11.09 | Jens | I like the yell "channel". But morons in IF are abusing it. |
| 18:11.23 | MoonWolf | Amadeo, indeed, only items actually seen by the server can be linked, in some weirdo situation it might occur that you cant link some common weapon yet because you dont have one and neither does anyone who logged in since the maintanace. |
| 18:11.32 | Amadeo | I see |
| 18:12.22 | Jens | I need to learn LUA scripting though. I just don't know where to start, |
| 18:12.33 | snurre | start with hello world :p |
| 18:12.39 | Jens | Already clicked that :) |
| 18:12.48 | Amadeo | What I did was load up Lootlink Enhanced plus some 37k Database...it was HUGE...my memory jumped from 20 to 40+...then I imported that data into Linkerator, and it trimmed it down to almost nothing |
| 18:12.49 | hyperChipmunk | read it cover to cover and you win lua |
| 18:12.54 | Amadeo | got rid of Lootlink |
| 18:12.57 | Jens | I have previous experience with other scripting languages. |
| 18:13.03 | Tuplad | Amadeo: Let's say you go on a server that has Hand of Ragnaros and shitload of epics, and someone links them to you(someone that uses ItemDB automatically shares items with you), they link it by whispering, the whispers are hidden but you can see them with the addon "Autorespond" :P Well, those items should be saved in your itemcache, right ? Right. But when you go to another server that doesnt have those items, it wont appear in there, but |
| 18:13.04 | Tuplad | Elkano's ItemDB gets all the items from the itemcache, right ? Righ(elkano told me), so the items arent there? |
| 18:13.08 | Amadeo | so I have tons of items now, but the type-link system in it kinda sucks |
| 18:13.36 | Tuplad | Jens: cant be ... |
| 18:13.46 | Jens | Pardon? |
| 18:13.55 | Tuplad | If you have experience with 1 language, I bet you know how to start with another :\ |
| 18:14.29 | Jens | Well, I can read and understand much of the LUA code I see in various addons... |
| 18:14.44 | hyperChipmunk | seriously, read PIL |
| 18:15.00 | mjc | jens: PIL + http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 18:15.03 | Tuplad | http://www.lua.org/pil/ is more than a friend :P(not that I ever read it - but seems it's good) |
| 18:15.05 | Jens | I even have a good idea how my proposed ignoreyell mod would work. |
| 18:15.51 | Jens | Something like... register the zone change event. Check current zone against list of places to ignore yell, and turn off yell if comparison is true. |
| 18:16.07 | Tuplad | Since 1.11 I started putting people on ignore, plain and simple, never done it before :D and I remove 'em after a hour or so |
| 18:16.08 | hyperChipmunk | can you even turn off yell? |
| 18:16.22 | Tuplad | hyperChipmunk: you can, by rightclicking chat tab and unmarking yell |
| 18:16.30 | hyperChipmunk | yea, just checked |
| 18:16.44 | hyperChipmunk | should be really easy; good starter addon for ya, jens |
| 18:16.49 | Jens | Yes. |
| 18:16.53 | Tuplad | or just filter messages that contain [%name%]: yell |
| 18:17.00 | Tuplad | ^.^ |
| 18:17.03 | Jens | That's a dirty way to do it :) |
| 18:17.37 | Tuplad | that's how I would of done it 8_8 |
| 18:17.42 | Jens | *have |
| 18:17.46 | hyperChipmunk | that's why we normally ignore you |
| 18:17.56 | kergoth | Tuplad, heh. my ignore list exceeded the max size like a year ago :\ |
| 18:17.58 | Tuplad | :< |
| 18:18.04 | Tuplad | kergoth: holy sh |
| 18:18.17 | Jens | I ignored 15 people in 5 minutes just before, due to football idiocy. |
| 18:18.19 | Tuplad | I once ignored a guy cuz he was /spit spamming me, and it was a horde |
| 18:18.31 | Jens | Get SpamGuardPlus :) |
| 18:18.35 | Amadeo | I want a guild addon that lets you create a Guild-friend and blacklist...you could add guilds you are in an alliance or enemies with as well as individuals, and share them with your guild based on their rank in your guild |
| 18:18.40 | Amadeo | :0 |
| 18:18.50 | Tuplad | Opium |
| 18:18.57 | Jens | Opium is cool. |
| 18:18.59 | hyperChipmunk | unfortunately, when you ignore someone, you don't get e.g. their wsg flag pickup messages |
| 18:19.02 | Tuplad | you can send thru Sky |
| 18:19.04 | Amadeo | Tuplad: You think I'm into drugs!? |
| 18:19.14 | Tuplad | hyperChipmunk: you dont ? I bet you do |
| 18:19.17 | Tuplad | lol :D |
| 18:19.17 | mjc | Tuplad: ew, sky |
| 18:19.19 | hyperChipmunk | you don't |
| 18:19.29 | Tuplad | hm |
| 18:19.42 | Amadeo | I can't use Sky, that's like cheating on Ace |
| 18:19.44 | hyperChipmunk | I've had to take people off /ignore for that reason several times |
| 18:20.07 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Seriously? That's lame! |
| 18:20.14 | Tuplad | once I ignored a guy named Pedro because he bitched in raid, then he tried to pickup flag and hide it so neither we or horde could take it, and I saw his messages :\ |
| 18:20.25 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, wow, thats stupid. |
| 18:20.32 | kergoth | hm |
| 18:20.34 | Tuplad | lets complain to blizzard? |
| 18:20.39 | Tuplad | I see it, I swear |
| 18:20.54 | hyperChipmunk | yea, took me forever to figure out why I wasn't getting a message when our flag was getting taken |
| 18:20.56 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.58 | kergoth | WOW_ADDON: Version 0.1.0 of FuBar - |cffffffffFuXP|r|cff00ff00Fu|r is already imported and tagged. |
| 18:21.00 | Amadeo | Tuplad: Is there something like Opium...but up to date? :) |
| 18:21.14 | kergoth | ~fishslap Wobin |
| 18:21.15 | purl | ACTION slaps Wobin up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 18:21.17 | Jens | What the hell... IsLinuxClient() o_^ |
| 18:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | the flag-carrier was someone I had on /ignore for /gloat-spamming |
| 18:21.27 | Tuplad | Amadeo: Dont think so, but Opium is aight, no need for update |
| 18:21.40 | Amadeo | Tuplad: I don't want it to keep track of PvP stats though :( |
| 18:21.42 | Tuplad | Jens: if isLinuxClient() = 1 ? |
| 18:21.49 | Amadeo | or duels |
| 18:21.53 | Tuplad | Amadeo: :( it's good for scoreboard tho |
| 18:21.58 | Tuplad | it doesnt keep track of duels |
| 18:22.09 | Tuplad | havent used it since umm ... 2005 ? |
| 18:22.14 | hyperChipmunk | it's in there; but it never returns true |
| 18:22.15 | kergoth | i liked opium, though i switched to skmap for pvp stat info |
| 18:22.20 | Jens | It just strikes me as odd that there's a function for that, given that there is no Linux client. |
| 18:22.21 | Wobin | meh |
| 18:22.25 | Wobin | Get a better script =P |
| 18:22.26 | Amadeo | "Opium is a tool for managing KoS lists, keeping track of PvP (and duel) stats and generally storing player info." |
| 18:22.30 | Amadeo | :P |
| 18:22.31 | Tuplad | Jens: there is ... :\(I think) |
| 18:22.41 | Tuplad | mayb he means pvp duels ? |
| 18:22.42 | Tuplad | :d |
| 18:22.44 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's there to torture me |
| 18:22.54 | Amadeo | what's a PvP duel! :) |
| 18:23.04 | Tuplad | 1vs1 ? :P |
| 18:23.11 | Tuplad | http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=ru&q=define:duel&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 |
| 18:23.21 | Jens | I can't really find a function in the API to turn off yells. |
| 18:23.21 | Tuplad | a prearranged fight with deadly weapons by two people (accompanied by seconds) in order to settle a quarrel over a point of honor |
| 18:23.48 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 18:23.51 | Tuplad | Jens: you wont, try to get funcs of that tab |
| 18:23.52 | hyperChipmunk | i think you actually just set a table value jens |
| 18:24.16 | Tuplad | nvm me, I cant code, just giving lame advice :< |
| 18:24.26 | Jens | So I have to parse all open tabs/windows, and find out which displays yells... |
| 18:24.27 | kergoth | woot, switched my rogue to http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=whesoxcoxGctz0xz (seal fate combat) from my old combat daggers build.... soo much more fun |
| 18:24.30 | hyperChipmunk | ChatFrame1.messageTypeList["YELL"] |
| 18:24.47 | Wobin | damnit |
| 18:24.48 | mjc | yuck SF |
| 18:24.49 | Wobin | Chopit |
| 18:24.55 | Tuplad | baha |
| 18:24.57 | Wobin | I want the old method of getting new pets |
| 18:25.07 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 18:25.22 | hyperChipmunk | that's a crappy way to do it, the way they have it |
| 18:25.24 | Amadeo | Wobin: a rope? |
| 18:25.31 | hyperChipmunk | ChatFrames have a table called messageTypeList |
| 18:25.35 | Wobin | For renaming purposes |
| 18:25.44 | hyperChipmunk | and it's an array of strings of what channels are enabled |
| 18:25.57 | hyperChipmunk | so you gotta remove the table entry that says "YELL" |
| 18:26.14 | Jens | Now I'm already in over my head :/ |
| 18:26.46 | Tuplad | kergoth: try http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=whesoxcoxGctz0xz |
| 18:26.48 | Amadeo | I need an addon that automatically death touches players who ask me for money |
| 18:26.53 | Amadeo | Just logged in, have gotten two tells |
| 18:26.55 | hyperChipmunk | download iriel's DevTools first, Jen |
| 18:27.00 | Tuplad | death touches ? =P |
| 18:27.06 | Jens | I need to make a basic ace addons, that I can start playing with to learn how stuff works. |
| 18:27.07 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 18:27.08 | Amadeo | they just die instantly |
| 18:27.09 | hyperChipmunk | eq thing |
| 18:27.20 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: I played EQ! |
| 18:27.32 | Tuplad | Amadeo: when people go like: give 1g plz for waepon, Im like: "give 600g plz for maount" |
| 18:27.37 | kergoth | Tuplad, you just copied and pasted my own |
| 18:27.41 | kergoth | Tuplad, url back to me |
| 18:27.45 | kergoth | Tuplad, :P |
| 18:27.45 | Tuplad | ooh, oops |
| 18:27.54 | Tuplad | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fheboZGZVEVozcRco there ya go ) |
| 18:27.59 | mjc | 20/31/0 is my rogue's build |
| 18:28.00 | Amadeo | EQ was fun, pre-SOE |
| 18:28.07 | Tuplad | 20/31 is basic imo |
| 18:28.12 | Jens | DevTools looks cool. |
| 18:28.25 | hyperChipmunk | after you install that |
| 18:28.25 | Tuplad | o wait kergoth, imp sinister strike is useless when u got hemmorhage |
| 18:28.29 | hyperChipmunk | do a /dump ChatFrame1 |
| 18:28.31 | Jens | In fact, it looks completely awesome. |
| 18:28.33 | hyperChipmunk | and you'll see it instantly |
| 18:28.39 | hyperChipmunk | it owns face |
| 18:28.58 | kergoth | hehe. thats a cool build Tuplad, other than what you mentioned. not really what i'm looking for though :) |
| 18:29.00 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:29.00 | mjc | Tuplad: for pve it's unbeatable |
| 18:29.01 | Tuplad | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhebobZhZVEVozcRco or put the 2pts of lethality in imp vanish |
| 18:29.08 | Tain | Imp SS is always useful. |
| 18:29.14 | kergoth | moo |
| 18:29.19 | Jens | Now I just need to unfuck whatever new nVidia drivers did to my WoW. I can't select resolutions higher than 1024*768. I'm gaming like it's 1999! |
| 18:29.20 | Tuplad | mjc: pvp, you get combo pts as a bitch |
| 18:29.27 | mjc | I don't pvp |
| 18:29.37 | Tuplad | Jens: I gamed with 1024*768 till a few months ago |
| 18:29.41 | Tuplad | mjc: k ;\ |
| 18:29.41 | Mikma | hmm i need a good pvp timer |
| 18:29.46 | Tain | Tonight we're gonna game like it's 1999. |
| 18:29.47 | mjc | 2560x1600 = win |
| 18:29.59 | Jens | But my LCD panel is 1280*1024, to 1024*768 looks like ass. |
| 18:30.10 | Tuplad | I just got a LCD panel aswell :p 1820*1024 |
| 18:30.13 | Tuplad | 1280* |
| 18:30.20 | Tuplad | nvidia ftl, ati > nvidia |
| 18:30.27 | Jens | But I think my secondary monitor might have something to do with it. It's 1024*768. Maybe WoW thinks it's running on that, for some reason. |
| 18:30.47 | Amadeo | whoa |
| 18:30.59 | Amadeo | Auctioneer brought my UI to 30MiB |
| 18:31.04 | Amadeo | it was about 22MiB |
| 18:31.18 | Tain | Auctioneer has a lot with it by default. Some of it you can disable if you dont' want it. |
| 18:31.26 | Jens | When I "/auc load" my UI mem jumps from ~28 to ~61. |
| 18:31.28 | Tain | But, it's hefty no matter what. |
| 18:31.47 | Amadeo | Tain: I don't want most of it :D |
| 18:31.54 | Tuplad | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=wGeboxcotG0VbhZx this is a killer build too, more or less |
| 18:31.58 | Tain | I just have most of it set to load on demadn and then /reload after each AH session. |
| 18:32.06 | Jens | Me too. |
| 18:32.08 | Amadeo | To be honest, all I care about is the ONE frame that scans the items as you place them up for auction :P |
| 18:32.09 | Mikma | haste should put pvp-icon in his oUF2 |
| 18:32.19 | kergoth | i prefer my build. +5 to dagger spec is nice when you've got seal fate |
| 18:32.20 | Mikma | or atleast a (PvP) after name |
| 18:32.27 | hyperChipmunk | Mikma: we took care of that last saturday or so |
| 18:32.32 | hyperChipmunk | that's exactly what it does |
| 18:32.35 | Tuplad | who here plays a paladin ? |
| 18:32.36 | Amadeo | Tain: You know which I mean? |
| 18:32.39 | Jens | Anyways... I should go and undo the mess I made last night. I killed all the street lights in my moms neighbourhood last night :D |
| 18:32.44 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: umh, what and where? |
| 18:32.52 | Tain | I still say you should simply adjust your build around the best weapons you currently have. |
| 18:33.08 | *** join/#wowace Hakker (i=UPP@a82-93-101-11.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 18:33.23 | Amadeo | The "Post Auction" tab |
| 18:33.25 | Tain | Amadeo: I'm not sure, I only reinstalled Auctioneer last week for the first time in a long time. Still working out the parts I do want to keep. |
| 18:33.27 | Amadeo | that's all I want in all of Auctioneer |
| 18:33.48 | Wobin | my god |
| 18:33.50 | kergoth | Amadeo, and for that, it needs its entire db of the last auction scan... so it can show you the competition.. |
| 18:33.52 | mjc | I like the search part |
| 18:33.52 | Wobin | warlocks are so overpowered |
| 18:34.01 | kergoth | mjc, me too, it makes me $$ |
| 18:34.03 | mjc | search auctions |
| 18:34.07 | Amadeo | kergoth: Really? I thought it scanned the AH for those items as you place it |
| 18:34.08 | Tain | Yeah it doesn't actually do a search, it bases that on its last scan. |
| 18:34.08 | Wobin | I can't believe I'm multitanking mobs as a level 4 caster |
| 18:34.11 | hyperChipmunk | [staharaj@hyperion]$ grep PvP oUF/* |
| 18:34.11 | hyperChipmunk | oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua:if (UnitIsPVP(u)) then h = "(PvP)" end |
| 18:34.22 | mjc | kergoth: only thing missing from KCI is that tab, imo |
| 18:34.37 | hyperChipmunk | line 638 |
| 18:34.41 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 18:34.48 | Amadeo | Hey, I invented another addon :P |
| 18:34.51 | hyperChipmunk | your line may vary =P |
| 18:35.03 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: i'll check it out do i have it |
| 18:35.13 | Tain | Amadeo: What I used to do was use an addon that would search the AH when I right-clicked on an item. |
| 18:35.34 | Tain | Not as convenient, but that's what I did. |
| 18:35.47 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: not on my ouf :P is that version submitted? |
| 18:35.52 | Amadeo | Tain: that's not bad |
| 18:35.57 | hyperChipmunk | [staharaj@hyperion]$ svn blame oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua|grep PvP 3331 otravi if (UnitIsPVP(u)) then h = "(PvP)" end |
| 18:36.07 | hyperChipmunk | looks like r.3331 |
| 18:36.17 | Tain | AuctionLookup it was called. |
| 18:36.37 | hyperChipmunk | afk a bit |
| 18:36.43 | Tain | But I also had to look at other stuff I was running as other things tried to use alt-click at the AH for different purposes, like auto-posting an auction. |
| 18:36.47 | Tain | Which made me angry. |
| 18:39.13 | Amadeo | I don't care much for knowing what stuff is worth...maybe I should, but I'm too lazy for it...I just look if anyone else has my item on the AH...and if it's more money than mine, I undercut them by a bit :P |
| 18:39.46 | Tuplad | if a letter isnt capital, what is it ? |
| 18:39.52 | Amadeo | So I'm wondering if it's possible to just have a Post Auction window that would scan it for items as you put one in the Post box, and show you...rather than showing you a database-stored list |
| 18:40.01 | Amadeo | Tuplad: Lowercase |
| 18:40.03 | Tuplad | (white - black, small - big, capital - ...) |
| 18:40.10 | Tuplad | aight, thanks |
| 18:40.12 | Amadeo | :) |
| 18:40.39 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: that version ain't on svn branches |
| 18:41.01 | snurre | BigWigs_RaidWarn = oRA_BigWigs? |
| 18:41.30 | Mikma | hmm let me recheck |
| 18:41.56 | Mikma | mmkay it was on 624 line |
| 18:43.03 | mjc | ora_bw is no more |
| 18:44.52 | snurre | that's what i thought.. i guess bw_raidwarn is the same? |
| 18:45.14 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: the only bad thing is that it won't work on target |
| 18:47.08 | ckknight | hey |
| 18:47.41 | mjc | snurre: uses the official blizzard raidwarning channel thing |
| 18:47.43 | mjc | otherwise yes |
| 18:48.09 | snurre | that was the answer i wanted, thx :) |
| 18:48.22 | mjc | and a lot less memory =) |
| 18:49.48 | Tuplad | zomg, I hope the money is in else I'll have to wait till 3rd to play my paladin :( |
| 18:51.00 | kergoth | i love gonffbar |
| 18:51.12 | kergoth | especially with the border removed and shrunk down all small and unobtrusive |
| 18:51.17 | Amadeo | hola ckknight |
| 18:51.18 | Tuplad | I dont :( couldnt move it |
| 18:51.34 | Wobin | ctrl drag? |
| 18:51.48 | haste | alt drag? |
| 18:51.51 | Tuplad | :O |
| 18:51.55 | Tuplad | didnt think about that |
| 18:52.01 | Tuplad | I usually moved it with visor :D |
| 18:52.05 | kergoth | its alt drag |
| 18:52.14 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183) |
| 18:52.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 18:52.37 | Mikma | yay new loadscreen in deeprun tram |
| 18:52.43 | pagefault | 10111 | 10101 |
| 18:52.45 | pagefault | oops |
| 18:53.45 | ckknight | hey Kaelten |
| 18:54.11 | kergoth | hmm.. mobinfo2 is nifty, though it has more than what i need |
| 18:55.22 | haste | use mobhealth2 instead then |
| 18:55.27 | kergoth | already do :) |
| 18:55.31 | snurre | hm, isnt it possible to remove the [R8] thingy in tinytip? |
| 18:55.39 | kergoth | kinda like the drop rate bits in mobinfo2.. not sure if ill keep it, but.. |
| 18:55.42 | Kaelten | heya ckknight |
| 18:55.45 | hyperChipmunk | back |
| 18:55.46 | Kaelten | hows it going guys? |
| 18:55.49 | ckknight | well |
| 18:56.14 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:56.29 | hyperChipmunk | yo K |
| 18:56.55 | hyperChipmunk | Mikma: the target's border gives you that info |
| 18:57.02 | hyperChipmunk | it's only needed for player |
| 19:03.49 | gnorlish | should i use telo's or wyv's mobhealth |
| 19:03.53 | gnorlish | i'm downgrading from mobinfo |
| 19:04.10 | Jens | True or false: RemoveChatWindowMessages(3, "YELL") should remove yells from chat window 3. |
| 19:05.02 | *** join/#wowace Andalia_ (n=xx@p54ADC304.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:05.31 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: is the border green if he has pvp on? |
| 19:06.28 | Mikma | hmm.. |
| 19:06.31 | wereHamster | [Ammo], is there a combat event when someone gets out of the web wrap at Maexxana in naxx? |
| 19:06.47 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2805 |
| 19:06.58 | Mikma | rather interesting comments, some people can't move the minimap vertically |
| 19:07.02 | hyperChipmunk | it's red if it's a pvp opponent; green if it's a pvp ally |
| 19:10.28 | Industrial | I'd do that with the name.. |
| 19:13.06 | hyperChipmunk | green name on a green health bar |
| 19:13.08 | hyperChipmunk | good idea |
| 19:13.41 | Mikma | well i must say that andreasg did a nice solution to mg2 by coloring the healthbar differently |
| 19:13.57 | Mikma | hostiles have red, neutrals have yellow, allies have green |
| 19:14.02 | hyperChipmunk | I'd prefer my colors to be consistent |
| 19:14.08 | hyperChipmunk | if it's red, they're almost dead |
| 19:14.15 | hyperChipmunk | if it's yellow, they're half health |
| 19:14.19 | hyperChipmunk | if it's green, they're full |
| 19:14.45 | hyperChipmunk | health bars should give consistent information; they're at-a-glance things |
| 19:14.59 | hyperChipmunk | you shoulnd't have to process two levels of logic to know what it's saying |
| 19:15.02 | Mikma | Industrial: quickly now, code your bars too |
| 19:15.26 | gnorlish | mik: does bartender have the ability to change # of rows in bars |
| 19:15.27 | Amadeo | ~moredots |
| 19:15.29 | purl | Whelps, LEFT SIDE!! Even side, MANY WHELPS!! |
| 19:16.03 | Industrial | Mikma: ? |
| 19:16.09 | Mikma | Industrial: i wanna test it in action |
| 19:16.19 | Industrial | Mikma: Im working on the buffs |
| 19:16.20 | Mikma | gnorlish: nope |
| 19:16.30 | gnorlish | and no scaling yet? |
| 19:16.33 | Mikma | gnorlish: nope |
| 19:16.44 | Industrial | Mikma: basically its just copying some lines over and maybe add 10-20 lines and im done after that |
| 19:16.56 | Industrial | Mikma: for the first svn release |
| 19:17.21 | Mikma | Clique is sexyness |
| 19:17.25 | Industrial | yea |
| 19:17.38 | Industrial | oh and im lv 17 now |
| 19:17.56 | Mikma | good, i'm lvl 30 :( |
| 19:18.04 | Industrial | Does leveling get easier? :| |
| 19:18.33 | Mikma | yeah atleast for me |
| 19:18.36 | Industrial | k |
| 19:19.09 | Mikma | the more levels the more power to kitty |
| 19:22.35 | Industrial | and warlock? :p |
| 19:22.56 | Wobin | warlock is so overpowered =\ |
| 19:23.50 | Mikma | well my friend leveled it faster to lvl60 than i did with my shadowpriest |
| 19:23.51 | Thrae | CIA-7 doesn't like TinyTip |
| 19:23.53 | Amadeo | I haven't had that much trouble with Warlocks on my Warrior..unless they outgear me |
| 19:24.14 | Thrae | Revision v0.31.3387 - Hopefully fixed all the errors of the last revision. Hooking is now again done immediately (like v1.02), so maybe this'll bring back MobInfo2 support. |
| 19:24.22 | Mikma | Thrae: btw, /tt pvprank doesn't work |
| 19:24.36 | Amadeo | when I type /tt, you know what happens? :) |
| 19:24.44 | Amadeo | "idChatTellTarget: Invalid target." |
| 19:24.46 | Amadeo | :) |
| 19:24.53 | Industrial | yeah |
| 19:24.54 | snurre | sm/ruin or lollink warlock should beat an equally geared warr 100 times out of 100 |
| 19:25.00 | Industrial | because you didnt have a target |
| 19:25.01 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:25.07 | haste | wonder if tinytip still anchors strange |
| 19:25.09 | Amadeo | Industrial: I know, I'm talking about TinyTip :P |
| 19:25.22 | Thrae | Amadeo: Changed to /ttip |
| 19:25.29 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 19:25.36 | haste | yep, it still does |
| 19:25.37 | Thrae | Mikma: You need to give it a number, either 1 or 2. |
| 19:25.50 | Mikma | Thrae: yeah but read the slashcommands help... |
| 19:25.51 | Amadeo | :D |
| 19:25.54 | Amadeo | Thrae: <3 |
| 19:26.33 | Thrae | Mikma: Oh, "give no input to disable" was fixed in this version. |
| 19:26.36 | Amadeo | What is \o/ anyway? it looks like a guy with his arms up! |
| 19:26.45 | snurre | it is a guy with his arms up |
| 19:26.51 | Mikma | Thrae: thanks! :D ok, and about the mailboxes having ranks? :) |
| 19:26.57 | Mikma | Thrae: and, pvpicon scale? :D |
| 19:26.59 | Amadeo | so you can dance? |
| 19:27.08 | snurre | \o\ |
| 19:27.09 | snurre | \o/ |
| 19:27.13 | snurre | ./o/ |
| 19:27.15 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:27.26 | Mikma | /o/ |
| 19:27.30 | Thrae | Mikma: Both fixed, unnnnnlessss you quickly mouseover from your unit frames to a mailbox/other doodad without the tooltip hiding itself. |
| 19:27.37 | Amadeo | -^-/o/-- |
| 19:27.42 | Amadeo | Shark is after him |
| 19:27.56 | Thrae | Mikma: Which will be probably be a rare case. |
| 19:28.06 | Mikma | Thrae: roger :) normally it takes me 2-3 seconds to mouseover the mailbox/doodad after a person |
| 19:28.08 | Amadeo | ~^~/o/~~ would have been better |
| 19:28.20 | *** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 19:28.21 | Tuplad | lol |
| 19:28.23 | Tuplad | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3160.jpg read chat |
| 19:28.33 | Tuplad | and then this chat: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full3162.jpg |
| 19:29.22 | Wobin | rofl |
| 19:29.30 | pagefault | x` |
| 19:29.30 | pagefault | `x |
| 19:30.00 | Amadeo | If he took the time to figure out Discord, he might find he needs a new computer to run it! |
| 19:30.14 | Tuplad | true story |
| 19:30.33 | Tuplad | I should release my UI once I pimp it |
| 19:30.50 | Tuplad | I want more graphics in it, and I know it can be done with XML :P just dont know how |
| 19:30.57 | Wobin | I decided to start a warlock |
| 19:31.00 | Wobin | Named FaShuShi |
| 19:31.07 | Wobin | to keep up on my chinese practice |
| 19:31.08 | Mikma | Wobin: eu or us? |
| 19:31.10 | Tuplad | ;\ |
| 19:31.11 | Wobin | us |
| 19:31.19 | Wobin | I have not a eu account |
| 19:31.27 | Tuplad | zomg |
| 19:31.30 | Wobin | And he looks asian too =) |
| 19:31.35 | Tuplad | gnome ? |
| 19:31.38 | Wobin | human |
| 19:31.42 | Tuplad | bah |
| 19:31.45 | Wobin | gnomes just look freaky |
| 19:31.52 | Tuplad | gnomes got the looks |
| 19:32.00 | Wobin | of a half eaten shoe |
| 19:32.06 | Tuplad | <:O |
| 19:32.20 | Tuplad | pink haired gnome in crimson fel hat & pink robe > all |
| 19:32.41 | Mikma | i don't understand the idea of those screenshots |
| 19:32.49 | Tuplad | mikma: read chat |
| 19:32.57 | Mikma | i did and still don't get what's so funny |
| 19:32.58 | Tuplad | someoen tells him |
| 19:33.11 | Tuplad | "if you took the time to learn discord stuff you would *NEVER* go back" |
| 19:33.21 | Mikma | and? |
| 19:33.24 | Tuplad | -_-" |
| 19:33.33 | Tuplad | AmadeoIf he took the time to figure out Discord, he might find he needs a new computer to run it! |
| 19:33.54 | Tuplad | someone said before: "Discord has more options than Hugh Heffner had sex partners" |
| 19:33.57 | Mikma | and? :) |
| 19:34.01 | Tuplad | omg |
| 19:34.01 | CIA-7 | 03wobin * r3733 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.toc: |
| 19:34.01 | CIA-7 | FuXP - removed version from toc for Kergoth |
| 19:34.01 | CIA-7 | ~lart kergoth |
| 19:34.37 | Tuplad | nothing to explain really, you either get it or you dont |
| 19:34.43 | Mikma | Wobin: why did you have to remove it? don't it say now "out of date" all the time or so |
| 19:34.57 | Mikma | well i do get it but i still don't find it funny |
| 19:35.01 | Wobin | er |
| 19:35.05 | Wobin | no, not that versoin |
| 19:35.12 | Mikma | addon version? |
| 19:35.13 | Wobin | just the program version |
| 19:36.01 | haste | interface version vs addon version |
| 19:37.08 | *** join/#wowace Neronix (i=neronix@user-3701.wfd88a.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 19:37.10 | hyperChipmunk | these shard quests are gonna push me to finally making an addon that only loots items for which you already have a stack when you do a Loot All |
| 19:37.27 | hyperChipmunk | I been putting it off for like ever |
| 19:38.21 | Tuplad | tinytip been updated? |
| 19:39.07 | hyperChipmunk | maybe I'll do that to get my feet wet in Ace2 |
| 19:39.54 | hyperChipmunk | first I need a name |
| 19:40.02 | hyperChipmunk | hmm |
| 19:40.19 | hyperChipmunk | Stockpile? |
| 19:41.02 | hyperChipmunk | or Hoarder maybe |
| 19:41.14 | Tuplad | you need an account on svn to "commit" files ? :p |
| 19:41.19 | hyperChipmunk | where's wobin |
| 19:41.20 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 19:41.23 | Tuplad | aight |
| 19:41.31 | Tuplad | tried to upload /tit instead of /tt :< |
| 19:41.33 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: gimme a name |
| 19:41.34 | mjc | hyperChipmunk: farm |
| 19:41.40 | hyperChipmunk | it's ttip |
| 19:41.43 | mjc | :p |
| 19:41.47 | Tuplad | :O |
| 19:41.47 | mjc | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.48 | hyperChipmunk | alread been changed |
| 19:41.51 | Tuplad | titty lol |
| 19:41.54 | Wobin | for? |
| 19:41.59 | Tuplad | hyperChipmunk: :x is it on svn ? |
| 19:42.02 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 19:42.05 | Tuplad | o_O |
| 19:42.08 | Wobin | ah |
| 19:42.23 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: I need a name for an addon that only loots items for which you already have a stack when you do a loot all |
| 19:42.35 | Wobin | lemme think |
| 19:42.57 | haste | Treasure chest? |
| 19:43.11 | Tuplad | name it after me 8) |
| 19:43.17 | Industrial | *cough* |
| 19:43.19 | Wobin | top of the pack? |
| 19:43.24 | Industrial | *choke* |
| 19:43.31 | Tuplad | lel |
| 19:43.42 | mjc | lootstacker |
| 19:44.02 | Wobin | Finicky |
| 19:44.24 | Kyahx|afk | Thrae: TinyTip's scale setting isnt working for me |
| 19:44.40 | hyperChipmunk | Finicky is close |
| 19:44.45 | hyperChipmunk | to what I'm looking for |
| 19:45.53 | hyperChipmunk | PickyLooter |
| 19:46.38 | hyperChipmunk | LootSnob hehe |
| 19:46.58 | Wobin | FussBudget |
| 19:47.46 | CIA-7 | 03shyva * r3734 10BigWigs/ZG/Venoxis.lua: |
| 19:47.46 | CIA-7 | BigWigs: |
| 19:47.46 | CIA-7 | Fixed the bug where you couldn't disable Venoxis in the Fubar menu. |
| 19:48.21 | Wobin | NeatFreak |
| 19:48.50 | hyperChipmunk | I'm going with LootSnob, I think |
| 19:49.07 | Amadeo | What CombatLog addons are there? |
| 19:49.08 | hyperChipmunk | I like the idea of someone in a dungeon shift-clicking all the mobs and leaving only trash for everyone else |
| 19:49.13 | Wobin | hehe |
| 19:49.28 | Wobin | are we talking about existant stacks, or just not full stacks? |
| 19:49.40 | hyperChipmunk | if it's in your inventory, you loot it |
| 19:49.49 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Don't forget AV loots |
| 19:49.51 | hyperChipmunk | so you loot the first one |
| 19:49.58 | hyperChipmunk | manually |
| 19:50.18 | hyperChipmunk | it being in your inventory defines it as being autolootable |
| 19:50.44 | hyperChipmunk | I won't even need to save a table or anything that way |
| 19:51.03 | Industrial | nice |
| 19:51.29 | Mikma | Industrial: join nordrassil |
| 19:51.36 | hyperChipmunk | might have a cache or something for speed, but that's it |
| 19:52.11 | Wobin | I'd cache it |
| 19:52.21 | Wobin | Since you don't want to scan bags each time you try to loot |
| 19:52.23 | Thrae | Kyahx|afk: Did you get the latest SVN? |
| 19:52.27 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 19:52.28 | Kyahx|afk | yep |
| 19:52.39 | Industrial | Mikma: uh ok? |
| 19:52.39 | Wobin | and you can use SEBags to check that the incoming is in the list |
| 19:52.51 | Wobin | and if not, add it in |
| 19:53.03 | hyperChipmunk | good idea |
| 19:53.13 | Mikma | Industrial: yeah i got priest with shield there ;) |
| 19:53.18 | Industrial | Mikma: hehe |
| 19:53.21 | Mikma | Industrial: easier to test the debuff |
| 19:53.23 | Industrial | yeah |
| 19:53.24 | Kyahx|afk | Thrae: Im also getting an when it tries to scale the PvPTexture |
| 19:53.31 | Kyahx|afk | line 33 of the icons lua |
| 19:55.57 | Thrae | Kyahx: I JUST updated the SVN about 5 minutes ago, do you have THAT copy? |
| 19:56.13 | Kyahx | No, becuase I updated, ate breakfast, then logged on :P |
| 19:56.18 | Kyahx | lol |
| 19:56.22 | Thrae | Well, ~14 minutes ago |
| 19:56.32 | Kyahx | I'll just update now and try again |
| 19:56.38 | Thrae | Oh, I just uploaded a version with lots and lots of bug fixes, that was one of them |
| 19:56.50 | haste | Thrae, it anchors strange on frames near the top of the screen btw |
| 19:56.56 | haste | ends up in the middle of the screen |
| 19:57.09 | Thrae | haste: You mean UnitFrames? |
| 19:57.20 | haste | yes, it doesn't have much to say for my part tho' |
| 19:57.25 | haste | I don't use mouse anchoring ;) |
| 19:57.44 | Thrae | haste: If you turn off mouse anchoring, then you're looking at the default anchoring. |
| 19:57.57 | haste | it's fine on default anchoring |
| 19:58.03 | Kyahx | Thrae: Working perfect :P |
| 19:58.06 | Kyahx | heh |
| 19:58.10 | haste | and I don't use mouse so I haven't been whining about it |
| 19:58.21 | haste | but it does display strange when mouse anchoring is used |
| 19:58.34 | hyperChipmunk | mouse anchoring pisses me off |
| 19:58.36 | Thrae | haste: Hmmm, well I'm using PerfectTooltip's code, I'll have to talk to cladhaire to understand his code better |
| 19:58.45 | haste | Thrae, I had the same problem there so :p |
| 19:58.45 | hyperChipmunk | it needs to be like 30 pixels below the mouse |
| 19:58.50 | hyperChipmunk | so I can still see my cursor |
| 19:59.13 | hyperChipmunk | for worldframe targets at least |
| 19:59.24 | Kyahx | Thrae: PerfectTooltip has the same anchoring problem. |
| 19:59.58 | haste | I'll probably stab TinyTip hard with a fork soon anyway |
| 20:00.21 | Thrae | Eh? What'd TinyTip ever do to you? |
| 20:01.15 | Industrial | he killed my teddybear |
| 20:01.30 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:03.07 | Wobin | sunk my battleship =( |
| 20:03.46 | Kyahx | Wobin: Think we could get a "Flip Shadow" option in FuXP? After haveing it wrong for a while, I grew to like it :P |
| 20:04.01 | Wobin | wuh? |
| 20:04.04 | Kyahx | haha |
| 20:04.09 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 20:04.24 | Kyahx | Shadows don't cast up! It looks weird! |
| 20:04.35 | Wobin | Go and edit the file yourself =) |
| 20:04.41 | Kyahx | haha, mmkay |
| 20:09.26 | Industrial | Theres something up with ace2 |
| 20:09.28 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:12.54 | Industrial | latest revision has an erro in aceoo that acelibrary doesnt exist |
| 20:14.03 | haste | Thrae, I only want a tooltip that looks okey, not everything else :p |
| 20:14.36 | Mikma | AceOO-2.0.lua:17: AceOO-2.0 Requires AceLibrary |
| 20:14.52 | Industrial | --^ that |
| 20:14.54 | Wobin | You've got it defined first? |
| 20:15.00 | hyperChipmunk | make sure you defined it first in the .toc |
| 20:15.05 | Wobin | in the toc |
| 20:15.07 | hyperChipmunk | you can actually fix that without restarting wow |
| 20:15.15 | haste | Industrial, it works here :op |
| 20:15.15 | Industrial | Ace2\AceLibrary-2.0\AceLibrary-2.0.lua |
| 20:15.15 | Industrial | Ace2\AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.lua |
| 20:15.15 | Industrial | Ace2\AceAddon-2.0\AceAddon-2.0.lua |
| 20:15.15 | Industrial | Ace2\AceDB-2.0\AceDB-2.0.lua |
| 20:15.21 | Industrial | from the toc |
| 20:15.32 | haste | isn't AceLibary named AceLibary and not AceLibary-2.0 ? |
| 20:15.42 | Industrial | hmm |
| 20:15.43 | Mikma | yeah |
| 20:15.50 | Industrial | 'oops' |
| 20:16.17 | Mikma | ~whalestap Industrial |
| 20:16.23 | Mikma | whops |
| 20:16.30 | Mikma | ~whalestab Industrial |
| 20:16.32 | purl | ACTION stabs Industrial with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 20:16.57 | Mikma | zomg wtf blizzard should make /console reloadui to reload .toc too |
| 20:18.30 | Industrial | ah im hungry |
| 20:18.37 | Industrial | sec :> |
| 20:20.08 | Industrial | Mikma: /script idUnitframes.Frames.player.Buffs:SetPoint('LEFT', UIParent, 'LEFT') |
| 20:20.12 | Industrial | :) |
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| 20:21.06 | Mikma | Industrial: danke |
| 20:27.59 | Industrial | *munch munch* |
| 20:31.00 | Industrial | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20060605.html |
| 20:31.01 | Industrial | lol |
| 20:35.23 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07Alpha * r3735 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - changed tostring for classes without :ToString() |
| 20:36.43 | ckknight | now a subclass of MyClass without its own name is "Sub-MyClass" |
| 20:36.44 | ckknight | an |
| 20:36.46 | ckknight | and such |
| 20:38.01 | Tuplad | anyone seen the match England vs Portugal ? |
| 20:38.35 | hyperChipmunk | depends on if you're about to ask a stupid question |
| 20:39.02 | Slayman | Jeepers Creepers 2 appears to be a funny movie for tonight |
| 20:39.13 | Tuplad | hyperChipmunk: nope, what happened to rooney ? |
| 20:39.20 | Tuplad | with* |
| 20:39.25 | Mikma | Industrial: wake up already |
| 20:39.28 | hyperChipmunk | he kicked a potugal player in the nuts when he was on the ground |
| 20:39.34 | Tuplad | LOL OWNED |
| 20:40.17 | Slayman | it was more like stepping on the other players balls then kicking |
| 20:40.29 | hyperChipmunk | ok he stomped on them |
| 20:40.45 | hyperChipmunk | either way, it frickin hurts |
| 20:40.55 | snurre | meh, brazil score plx! :( |
| 20:40.57 | Slayman | it sure does |
| 20:41.03 | Tuplad | brazil is playing ? |
| 20:41.08 | snurre | brazil - france |
| 20:41.13 | snurre | 0-1 |
| 20:41.21 | snurre | if france win i wont be able to sleep |
| 20:41.25 | Tuplad | hyperChipmunk: imo, that's something that you expect from England, their fans are crazy - so should the players be :D |
| 20:41.28 | Tuplad | france wont win :) |
| 20:41.34 | Tuplad | ronaldinho will pwn |
| 20:41.37 | hyperChipmunk | they're dominating brazil |
| 20:41.41 | snurre | 9mins to go, theyre up with 1 |
| 20:41.45 | Tuplad | when's the 1/4 final ? |
| 20:41.53 | hyperChipmunk | this is |
| 20:41.57 | Tuplad | aha :O |
| 20:42.02 | Tuplad | brb gonna check tv |
| 20:42.04 | hyperChipmunk | this the last one |
| 20:42.27 | Tuplad | last match overall ? |
| 20:42.42 | snurre | last 1/4 final |
| 20:44.01 | Tuplad | ah good |
| 20:44.05 | Neronix | England suck at football |
| 20:44.09 | Tuplad | never |
| 20:44.13 | Neronix | but Andrew Murray doesn't suck at tennis ;P |
| 20:44.23 | Tuplad | England always been good |
| 20:44.26 | Slayman | brazil loses against a team which average age is 30+ |
| 20:44.28 | Neronix | He just wtfpwnt Andy Roddick in straight sets |
| 20:45.01 | Tuplad | Slayman: exactly, those 30+ have been training when brazilians were running in pampers, give 'em a break |
| 20:45.29 | Tuplad | brazil is good, always been good, but so been france :D |
| 20:45.51 | snurre | brazil started out as shit this year, but got better |
| 20:46.08 | snurre | im really disappointed argentina went out tho, they played the best so far |
| 20:46.44 | Tuplad | http://rooneyred.ytmnd.com/ omg |
| 20:47.05 | Slayman | snurre not good enough to beat us! |
| 20:47.19 | snurre | damn germans :p |
| 20:47.23 | haste | [Ammo], I see a quite large flaw in oRA_MainTank |
| 20:48.23 | Tain | Happy Birthday Canada! |
| 20:48.46 | ckknight | hooray! |
| 20:48.48 | Slayman | close one |
| 20:48.54 | hyperChipmunk | stoppage time now |
| 20:49.13 | Slayman | even closer |
| 20:49.26 | hyperChipmunk | >8O |
| 20:49.43 | Tuplad | bah, poor brazil :( |
| 20:50.08 | hyperChipmunk | did anyone hear how many mins of stoppage? |
| 20:50.18 | Tuplad | who's gonna play 1/2 ? |
| 20:50.23 | trollied | England deserved to win. Outplayed them with 10 men. I'm depressed :-( |
| 20:50.52 | hyperChipmunk | england needs to lern2score |
| 20:51.04 | Tuplad | and not to kick portuguese guys :D |
| 20:51.10 | trollied | yeah, was nobody in the box to finish |
| 20:51.16 | Neronix | I'm from Scotland |
| 20:51.22 | trollied | hey, you say that but they're a bunch of divers! |
| 20:51.26 | Neronix | I'm slightly biased :P |
| 20:51.30 | hyperChipmunk | has england scored even one goal in run-of-play all tournament? |
| 20:51.33 | trollied | the Scots in the pub were very happy... |
| 20:51.59 | Slayman | that's it for brazil |
| 20:52.00 | Neronix | But I'm actually of Italian descent |
| 20:52.04 | Neronix | Italy FTW |
| 20:52.11 | Tuplad | http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/4991618.stm accident imo |
| 20:52.32 | Tuplad | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.44 | Tuplad | no extra mins ? |
| 20:52.49 | Tuplad | Im watching thru google RSS >_> |
| 20:53.01 | Tuplad | cant find a channel that'll broadcast football |
| 20:53.03 | Slayman | 3 extra mins |
| 20:53.37 | Tuplad | k |
| 20:53.42 | Tuplad | brazil MIGHT score |
| 20:53.51 | Slayman | it#s over |
| 20:53.54 | gnorlish | it's over |
| 20:53.56 | Kaelten | ok who wants to help me test OneBag |
| 20:54.10 | Slayman | the 3 mins are gone, they didn't made it |
| 20:54.25 | trollied | "for a stamp". wtf? Rooney was getting held back by 2 guys and struggled on. A Portugese bloke in the same position would have just dived! |
| 20:54.25 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: whatcha need? |
| 20:54.46 | hyperChipmunk | he stamped him in the balls |
| 20:55.00 | Kaelten | I'm about to commit the new verison and I just wanted to know if anyone would go ahead a give it a whirl. |
| 20:55.08 | hyperChipmunk | throw it up there |
| 20:55.31 | Industrial | Kaelten: mememe |
| 20:55.37 | Kaelten | I will say this, OneBankBag is going to be a seperate addon, and as such its not in this release. |
| 20:55.44 | hyperChipmunk | that's fine |
| 20:55.51 | Kaelten | also options are not in yet. |
| 20:56.01 | hyperChipmunk | I don't think LootSnob can be done =( |
| 20:56.04 | Tuplad | :( damn you brazil, damn you |
| 20:56.14 | Kaelten | but I'll be adding those over the course of the next few hours. |
| 20:56.34 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: youd have to hook shift+right click or the loot all function and then do a normal loot only looting the things you want |
| 20:56.41 | Industrial | why wouldnt that be possible |
| 20:56.42 | Industrial | ? |
| 20:57.33 | hyperChipmunk | because there isn't a loot all function =P |
| 20:57.33 | Industrial | :o |
| 20:57.37 | hyperChipmunk | and you can't hook shift-right click on a corpse |
| 20:57.38 | Tuplad | :\ |
| 20:57.48 | Industrial | well, umm |
| 20:57.50 | Industrial | poo |
| 20:57.50 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:57.54 | hyperChipmunk | it's an event |
| 20:58.15 | hyperChipmunk | but it's just a generic loot-open event |
| 20:58.20 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3736 10OneBag/ (21 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:58.20 | CIA-7 | Initial Commit of the new OneBag. |
| 20:58.20 | CIA-7 | Options are still to be done, and OneBankBag is no longer included as it will be a separate addon. |
| 20:58.23 | hyperChipmunk | and the full loot will get run anyway |
| 20:58.30 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: heres another idea |
| 20:58.39 | Industrial | loot everything and trash the things you dont need |
| 20:58.44 | Kaelten | lootSnob? |
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| 20:58.52 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: thats doable |
| 20:58.55 | hyperChipmunk | there's already Trash-o-Matic for that |
| 20:59.10 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: no, because that uses a database of items |
| 20:59.12 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: loot only items that are already in your inventory when you shift-click |
| 20:59.22 | Kaelten | hmm, that'd be neat |
| 20:59.26 | hyperChipmunk | and I don't want to destroy stuff for everyone else |
| 20:59.31 | hyperChipmunk | like, if I'm not collecting runecloth |
| 20:59.39 | Industrial | oh yeah |
| 20:59.39 | Industrial | :p |
| 20:59.41 | Industrial | lol |
| 20:59.42 | Industrial | ;x |
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| 20:59.43 | hyperChipmunk | then I don't want to destroy runecloth |
| 20:59.47 | Kaelten | OneBag update has been commited. |
| 21:00.19 | hyperChipmunk | I'm gonna see if I can make the client think the items that aren't in my bag are not there to begin with |
| 21:00.21 | Industrial | *try* |
| 21:01.13 | Mikma | Industrial: well contact me when you do wanna code again |
| 21:01.26 | Industrial | Mikma: yeah sorry Ive been at this _all_ day |
| 21:01.36 | Mikma | well it's life |
| 21:01.43 | Industrial | :p |
| 21:02.06 | Mikma | but i don't have the interest to help someone if he just quits by saying "i don't feel like it" :( |
| 21:02.12 | Industrial | Kaelten: do you know AuctionFilterPlus? |
| 21:02.20 | haste | people find the strangest things to discuss while waiting for people. |
| 21:02.40 | steino | ye |
| 21:02.48 | Industrial | Mikma: sometimes you've just had enough |
| 21:02.50 | steino | "how do you fap and eat pizza at the same time?" |
| 21:03.03 | Mikma | Industrial: but without trying it won't get done. |
| 21:03.14 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:03.21 | Mikma | and? |
| 21:03.35 | Industrial | im not a robot :p |
| 21:03.41 | Mikma | imagine how many days cladhaire has been working on clique ^^ |
| 21:03.57 | Industrial | So i cant take a break ? :p |
| 21:04.03 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: don't alphabetize your addon with a color code =P |
| 21:04.09 | hyperChipmunk | I couldn't find it |
| 21:04.28 | Mikma | no you can't if you ask me to help you and i sacrifice my playtime with gf for it ;) |
| 21:05.06 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1640.new#new |
| 21:05.12 | Kaelten | put a screenshot there |
| 21:05.47 | Industrial | uh If you were playing with your gf then help me some other time :P |
| 21:06.16 | Mikma | you asked my help, remember? :P |
| 21:06.27 | Kaelten | Mikma: Ya Gello also helped him on the gui though |
| 21:07.21 | snurre | wts being in france right now.. theyre so loud, you'd think they actually wont the whole thing |
| 21:12.12 | gnorlish | they beat the favorites |
| 21:12.19 | gnorlish | i think they're allowed to be quite excited |
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| 21:13.08 | FryGuy | is there a way to move the loot windows? they always show up on top of my unitframes when people loot in combat :( |
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| 21:15.11 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: looks good |
| 21:15.12 | Kaelten | AceLoot makes the loot window movable |
| 21:15.45 | hyperChipmunk | there needs to be a button for plowing if you have mr plow |
| 21:15.55 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 21:15.57 | FryGuy | noo the other one |
| 21:16.01 | FryGuy | the group loot box |
| 21:16.20 | Kaelten | no idea on that one fry |
| 21:16.22 | hyperChipmunk | what's the point of the click-out bag list; whenever you click on any of them, they close |
| 21:17.03 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 21:17.30 | Kaelten | the purpose of them is to make it easy to work with your bags |
| 21:17.33 | hyperChipmunk | like, you click the arrow |
| 21:17.39 | hyperChipmunk | and if you click any of the bags, the whole thing closes |
| 21:18.04 | Kaelten | hrm, so should I just make them not toggle? |
| 21:18.20 | hyperChipmunk | I don't know what they're supposed to do |
| 21:18.30 | hyperChipmunk | is that for moving stuff into them? |
| 21:18.43 | Kyahx | FryGuy: Bongo's can move them, might want to look there |
| 21:18.45 | Kaelten | their main purpose is to allow you to switch out bags |
| 21:19.15 | hyperChipmunk | how often do you actually do that? |
| 21:19.27 | Mikma | haste: zomg! |
| 21:19.30 | Kaelten | depends on what level you are |
| 21:19.31 | Kaelten | :) |
| 21:19.32 | Mikma | ~seen haste |
| 21:19.34 | purl | haste is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 107 messages. Is idling for 17m 14s, last said: 'people find the strangest things to discuss while waiting for people.'. |
| 21:19.34 | hyperChipmunk | any way to turn off this debug spam w/o editing the lua? |
| 21:19.47 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: sadly no, I forgot to do it, here let me commit. |
| 21:19.47 | gnorlish | you could make a way to toggle bags |
| 21:20.06 | gnorlish | as a 60 i haven't touched mine in forever since i got an ony bag |
| 21:20.17 | haste | Mikma, ? |
| 21:20.19 | CIA-7 | 03kaelten * r3737 10OneBag/OneBag.lua: Disabled Debug Spam |
| 21:20.48 | Kaelten | gnorlish: the bags by default don't show, you have to click that little arrow button to show/hide them |
| 21:21.02 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: there ya go, no debug spam |
| 21:21.26 | Mikma | haste: seems like oUF2 doesn't remember positions |
| 21:22.51 | gnorlish | kaelten: clicking a bag when using a allinone type mod probably shouldn't do anything.. the only other thing i can think of is simply having it close the inventory like yours apparently does |
| 21:23.44 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 21:23.55 | Kaelten | I got some ideas. |
| 21:24.02 | Tuplad | onebag is being updated ? :D |
| 21:24.05 | gnorlish | bagnon highlights the bag slots that bag covers on mouseover |
| 21:24.14 | gnorlish | that excited me when i first saw it |
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| 21:24.29 | Tuplad | Kaelten: that's one huge screen you've got there |
| 21:25.06 | Kaelten | 1600x1200 :) |
| 21:25.14 | Tuplad | but is there a difference between let's say, mybags or bagnon ? |
| 21:25.36 | Kaelten | yes |
| 21:25.40 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: I missed your response to the debug question, if you gave one =P |
| 21:25.57 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: I submitted a commit that has that fixed |
| 21:26.54 | Kaelten | tuplad One difference is that OneBag now dynamically creates the frames and buttons |
| 21:27.27 | Tuplad | :( explain please |
| 21:27.50 | Kaelten | well most bag mods have one slot available for every possible bag size |
| 21:27.57 | haste | Mikma, restart your WoW and try again |
| 21:27.58 | Kaelten | that being 36x4 + 16 |
| 21:28.13 | haste | Mikma, I had the same problem with my casting bar for some reason a couple of hours ago |
| 21:28.21 | Tuplad | yes |
| 21:28.33 | Mikma | haste: well i had addons disabled and switched servers |
| 21:28.39 | Kaelten | or 160 slots each of which takes memory |
| 21:28.57 | haste | Mikma, it's saved by profile so you can change it in-game |
| 21:28.59 | Kaelten | with OneBag if you only have 4 16 slot bags then you only have a total of 80 slots in memory |
| 21:29.11 | Mikma | haste: well seems like the profile is gone |
| 21:29.14 | Tuplad | :O |
| 21:29.18 | Tuplad | so it reduces the memory usage ? |
| 21:29.22 | Kaelten | yes |
| 21:29.27 | Tuplad | is aced ? :O |
| 21:29.29 | Tuplad | omg ! |
| 21:29.33 | Kaelten | Ace2 actually |
| 21:29.37 | Tuplad | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.25 | Tuplad | Rowne visits forums :O Last Active: 16-06-2006, 15:11:29 |
| 21:30.38 | Kaelten | lol, cool |
| 21:30.46 | haste | I think he also replied that time |
| 21:30.49 | haste | in the bug sack thread |
| 21:31.08 | Tuplad | on: 29-05-2006, 04:16:27 |
| 21:31.54 | Tuplad | I loved his addons |
| 21:32.06 | Kaelten | Also OneBag uses the default blizz code for handling the bags |
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| 21:32.36 | Kaelten | so it should have an easier time being compatabile with mods that interact with other mods |
| 21:32.42 | Tuplad | :o |
| 21:32.43 | haste | Mikma, so every saved var was killed of? |
| 21:32.51 | Wobin | ie bag/slotid? =P |
| 21:32.51 | Tuplad | no you mean no addons like "OneBag_KC" needed ? |
| 21:32.56 | Wobin | with GetID()? =) |
| 21:32.57 | Mikma | haste: yeah seems like it since they are at your def positions |
| 21:32.58 | Tuplad | no = so |
| 21:33.39 | Mikma | haste: can i request a feature? |
| 21:33.40 | Kaelten | no it doesn't do that type of stuff yet |
| 21:34.21 | Tuplad | Teach me master Kaelten ! |
| 21:34.41 | Tuplad | What's the benefit of using default blizz code then ? |
| 21:34.49 | Mikma | haste: use oUF_Layout.lua for default layout, that way when once modded the way people like it they can quickly use the previous layout for new releases etc |
| 21:35.36 | Kaelten | one its easier to code since In total I have less than 300 lines of code written for that |
| 21:36.06 | haste | Mikma, I'm going to change quite a lot, be patient :p |
| 21:36.08 | Kaelten | its also less likely to break overall |
| 21:36.13 | Tuplad | Industrial: http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/6006/wowscrnshot0701060254232mz.jpg what addon are you using for ToT ? |
| 21:36.18 | haste | Mikma, and AceDB2 handles the whole saving of vars |
| 21:36.20 | Mikma | haste: i am :) |
| 21:36.20 | Tuplad | aha ! |
| 21:36.38 | Tuplad | Kaelten: so is OneBag safe to use atm ? |
| 21:36.59 | Amadeo | Tuplad: ToT is built into the Blizzard Unit Frames now |
| 21:37.06 | Tuplad | :O |
| 21:37.08 | Tuplad | cool |
| 21:37.41 | Kaelten | yes, the options are not in yet but should be soon |
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| 21:38.25 | Tuplad | aight |
| 21:38.29 | Tuplad | I like the looks of it ;) |
| 21:38.30 | Kaelten | its functional |
| 21:38.34 | Kaelten | and as best I can tell bugfree |
| 21:38.56 | ckknight | externals make my connection cry |
| 21:39.11 | Tuplad | Industrial: you there? ;] |
| 21:39.16 | Industrial | sup |
| 21:39.26 | Tuplad | lemme try idUnitFrames |
| 21:39.42 | Industrial | by far not finished |
| 21:39.43 | Mikma | Tuplad: it's not functional yet |
| 21:39.44 | Industrial | not even usable |
| 21:39.50 | Tuplad | that's EXACTLY why I wanna test it |
| 21:39.58 | Mikma | to see it's not working? gg |
| 21:40.00 | Tuplad | yes :D |
| 21:40.14 | Kaelten | ckknight: too many externals :)? |
| 21:40.23 | Tuplad | he showed screenies so it has to be functional :( |
| 21:40.29 | ckknight | trunk has a few, Kaelten |
| 21:40.37 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: it works with BulKMail out of the box |
| 21:40.39 | hyperChipmunk | you win |
| 21:41.34 | Kaelten | do others break builkmail? |
| 21:42.15 | Kaelten | just a few ckknight ? hehe |
| 21:42.26 | hyperChipmunk | they just don't work with it |
| 21:42.28 | Mikma | Tuplad: so if goatse shows you pictures of his rectum you think it's functional? |
| 21:42.31 | Kaelten | wait till Ace2 gets popular, we're going to have 8 or 9 externals per addon |
| 21:42.38 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:42.41 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 21:42.41 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: really? |
| 21:43.18 | hyperChipmunk | EngInv doesn't; it doesn't preserve GetID on frames |
| 21:43.25 | hyperChipmunk | and now I have nothing for some reason |
| 21:43.32 | Tuplad | Mikma: well, that's something different =] you cant compare that with a piece of code |
| 21:44.25 | Tuplad | Help good ol' Tuplad out - http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs302&d=06266&f=ace.png - anything else to (repl)Ace or just to remove ? |
| 21:44.31 | Mikma | yes i can, i just did :D |
| 21:44.35 | Tuplad | :P |
| 21:44.42 | Kebinusan | hc, give us engInv Aced! |
| 21:44.43 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: have nothing? |
| 21:44.58 | Kaelten | Kebinusan: booo |
| 21:45.11 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 21:45.16 | Tuplad | Aced EngInv coming ? |
| 21:45.31 | Kebinusan | as soon as you start it Tuplad |
| 21:45.34 | Tuplad | :( |
| 21:45.42 | Tuplad | kk sec |
| 21:45.52 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/ob.png |
| 21:46.22 | hyperChipmunk | reload fixed it |
| 21:46.40 | Kaelten | hrm, thats not good |
| 21:46.46 | Kaelten | any errors or anything? |
| 21:47.57 | Tuplad | ok wtf I dont get past AceInventory = AceAddonClass:new({ |
| 21:48.13 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: whats the font? |
| 21:48.20 | Tuplad | yeh looks sexy |
| 21:50.06 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: any idea what you where doing that triggered that, or if there was any errors? |
| 21:51.14 | haste | "Does your BigWigs still keep on going?" "Yes, you fix it with /rl" "omg, my computer locke..... err no" |
| 21:52.59 | Tuplad | haha |
| 21:53.51 | Kebinusan | They changed the combat pulse on c'thun, its now possible to rez between phases |
| 21:54.04 | haste | Kebinusan, they changed it that much? |
| 21:54.06 | Kebinusan | in fact its possible to rez twice |
| 21:54.14 | haste | so 20 sec without combat now? |
| 21:54.19 | haste | instead of 1 sec :p |
| 21:54.22 | Tuplad | Hm, what's the memory difference between KC_Items auction & Auctioneer ? |
| 21:54.25 | Kebinusan | yeah can you believe that |
| 21:54.37 | Industrial | Tuplad: try them both |
| 21:54.39 | Industrial | . |
| 21:54.54 | Tuplad | um |
| 21:55.01 | Tuplad | Cant atm |
| 21:55.09 | Kaelten | hehe, I'm confident that I stop auctioneer unless its changed drastically |
| 21:56.49 | Tuplad | what you mean you stop auctioneer ? o_O |
| 21:58.04 | hyperChipmunk | ooh, kael |
| 21:58.08 | hyperChipmunk | yea, was visor error I think |
| 21:58.14 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: ? |
| 21:58.16 | hyperChipmunk | Visor\Basics\VisorBasics.lua:213: CharacterBag3Slot:SetPoint(): CharacterBag0Slot is dependent on this --- |
| 21:58.25 | hyperChipmunk | and the font is Bitstream Vera Sans |
| 21:59.08 | hyperChipmunk | no worms fatality makes me forget to check errors =P |
| 21:59.45 | Kaelten | err stomp |
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| 22:04.22 | haste | haha |
| 22:04.42 | haste | on VT: *nerdorgasm* "oh, shit ... the adds.. shield wall!!1" |
| 22:06.43 | steino | :) |
| 22:06.47 | steino | haste's first naxx kill |
| 22:06.55 | steino | everyone say grats! |
| 22:06.58 | haste | yay, I have dkp now! |
| 22:07.03 | steino | you had dkp :p |
| 22:07.07 | Neronix | Conclusion: LFG is... Normal person + anonymity + audience = total fuckwad |
| 22:07.10 | Neronix | grats haste :P |
| 22:07.12 | haste | yeh, but more then average |
| 22:07.15 | steino | :) |
| 22:07.18 | steino | you have more then me now |
| 22:07.21 | steino | *curses* |
| 22:08.38 | Wobin | hurrah |
| 22:08.41 | Wobin | level 10 on my new lock |
| 22:08.54 | Wobin | And it only took me four hours =P |
| 22:10.08 | haste | steino, what boss drops shoulders? |
| 22:10.50 | steino | patchwerk |
| 22:10.56 | steino | first in abom |
| 22:11.11 | haste | blargh |
| 22:11.17 | haste | Guess I'll have to wait then ;) |
| 22:11.19 | steino | prolly the next one we'll go for |
| 22:11.20 | Tekcub | you know what they need to do to LFG (aside from make the REAL system they asked for ideas on like 3 months back...) |
| 22:11.23 | steino | :) |
| 22:11.30 | Tekcub | make it only take predetermined phrases |
| 22:11.58 | Tekcub | (Looking for group) (Stratholme) (Huter) |
| 22:12.06 | Tekcub | like FFXI's translator |
| 22:13.19 | mjc | definitely having problems with MT list lately |
| 22:13.24 | mjc | as in, never working :p |
| 22:13.37 | [Ammo] | it's working for me now |
| 22:13.54 | [Ammo] | after updating |
| 22:16.15 | mjc | I'm on the most recent svn |
| 22:16.25 | mjc | from like 20mins ago |
| 22:17.04 | [Ammo] | I'm too |
| 22:17.14 | [Ammo] | time for bed though |
| 22:19.29 | Wobin | Tekcub: With spelling counting =P |
| 22:20.00 | Tekcub | :P whateva! |
| 22:20.57 | haste | the problem with the MT module I Was thinking of is: It's not reporting when requested |
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| 22:22.42 | Kebinusan | "<01:09:43> --| Regen Enabled : Left Combat |--", |
| 22:22.42 | Kebinusan | "<01:10:28> --| Regen Disabled : Entered Combat |--", |
| 22:22.52 | Kebinusan | thats the ooc time between phase 1 and 2 on c'thun |
| 22:22.55 | Kebinusan | big change |
| 22:23.09 | Shyva | time enough to ress some people :o |
| 22:23.19 | Kebinusan | yeah, rez lots of people |
| 22:23.28 | hyperChipmunk | time enough to rez everyone |
| 22:24.48 | Thrae | Hmmm, why doesn't CIA-7 announce anything for TinyTip? |
| 22:25.08 | Amadeo | My sct.lua file keeps getting larger and larger....and it's all default settings.... |
| 22:25.14 | Thrae | - Fixed a bug or two. |
| 22:25.14 | Thrae | - You may now set the tooltip's anchor (/ttip anchor) as well as offsets (/ttip offx) (/ttip offy) |
| 22:25.17 | Thrae | - Added experimental SMARTCURSOR anchor which allows you to adjust the anchor relative to the cursor. |
| 22:25.20 | Thrae | - Disabling Fadeout effect is back in. |
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| 22:26.21 | Kebinusan | corkfu doesnt have unending breath :-) |
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| 22:27.35 | Tekcub | ...yet... |
| 22:27.42 | Tekcub | you know what I need |
| 22:27.50 | Kebinusan | a beer? |
| 22:27.56 | Tekcub | I need someone to go to work for me so I can get caught up on all my mods |
| 22:28.00 | Tekcub | I don't do beer |
| 22:28.05 | Tekcub | I do bears tho |
| 22:28.06 | haste | :OOOO |
| 22:28.17 | snurre | beer ftw |
| 22:28.20 | snurre | *gets a corona* |
| 22:29.09 | snurre | mmm.. corona with lime and nachos with salsa and guacamole |
| 22:30.46 | Wobin | as much as I don't normally go for beer... that combo is unbeatable =) |
| 22:30.56 | Wobin | cause like.. yum |
| 22:31.22 | Amadeo | bears, roflmao |
| 22:31.32 | Wobin | only a couple of keystrokes away! |
| 22:32.35 | Industrial | snurre: GIEF |
| 22:33.24 | Amadeo | Thrae: offy doesn't seem to work when anchored to the cursor |
| 22:34.10 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r3739 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: Guildmates should now be colored special. |
| 22:35.12 | Neronix | Tekcub: There was a translator in FFXI? |
| 22:36.02 | Tekcub | (Galka) (rod) (penta-thrust) (burst) (Can I have it?) (inside) (fun) (hole) |
| 22:36.11 | Galka | lol |
| 22:36.27 | Thrae | Amadeo: You must use SMARTCURSOR instead of CURSOR. |
| 22:37.02 | mjc | is there not a BW module for lethon? |
| 22:38.25 | haste | do you need that? |
| 22:38.56 | haste | Lethon is pretty much: dps -> run -> heal -> run -> dps -> run -> heal -> run -> dps -> loot |
| 22:39.25 | Tuplad | who's lethon ? :_: |
| 22:39.31 | haste | a dragon |
| 22:39.49 | Thrae | Lethon sounds like a ninja. |
| 22:39.55 | Thrae | Therefore, he is a NINJA DRAGON. |
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| 22:40.00 | haste | lol |
| 22:40.04 | Tuplad | ^^ |
| 22:40.10 | Thrae | NINJA-RYU WAI WAI WAI |
| 22:40.26 | mjc | haste: never done him, idk |
| 22:40.27 | mjc | ;P |
| 22:40.29 | Neronix | purl: lethon is <reply> NINJA DRAGON! |
| 22:40.30 | purl | Neronix: okay |
| 22:40.40 | Tuplad | lol what the, someone kited ysondre to darkshire o_O |
| 22:41.05 | haste | uhm |
| 22:41.08 | haste | Ysondre can spawn there |
| 22:41.25 | Neronix | Yep :P |
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| 22:43.04 | snurre | Thrae: hm, is it possible to turn off background colouring in tinytip? |
| 22:43.38 | Wobin | yay |
| 22:43.40 | Wobin | voidy |
| 22:43.41 | Thrae | snurre: Altogether? No. |
| 22:43.57 | Thrae | snurre: It only colors for players by default. |
| 22:44.10 | snurre | hm, wtb pure black bg |
| 22:44.35 | snurre | would be cool to be able to disable bg colouring, and remove border (opacity=0 or something) |
| 22:45.16 | Thrae | You want it completely transparent?! |
| 22:45.21 | snurre | the border |
| 22:45.23 | snurre | not bg |
| 22:45.27 | Thrae | Oh, OK. |
| 22:50.03 | Thrae | snurre: What about when a unit is tapped or dead? Do you still want the default of gray, or black? |
| 22:50.15 | gnorlish | can i get hot pink |
| 22:50.16 | Wobin | Does anyone know what characters are used for Warlock in the chinese edition? |
| 22:50.17 | snurre | black all over imo |
| 22:50.18 | haste | gtk+ takes ages to compile :( |
| 22:50.48 | mjc | haste: ccache ftw |
| 22:52.04 | haste | mjc, w00t? |
| 22:52.53 | snurre | french people needs to stfu after winning football matches |
| 22:53.00 | mjc | ccache... |
| 22:53.14 | haste | I'll google it after AQ :p |
| 22:53.46 | snurre | lol, someone just wanted to buy my guild's entire ZG bank (of coins and bijous) |
| 22:54.00 | snurre | at 2g per coin and 10g per bijous as he suggested, it would be about 10.4k gold |
| 22:55.13 | Wobin | That's not too bad a pile of money =P |
| 22:55.34 | Kebinusan | Any idea whats causing a /ora maintank list not to retrieve the main tanks? It seems like they arent getting broadcast possibly or something |
| 22:55.57 | mjc | Kebinusan: broken for me too |
| 22:56.26 | haste | Kebinusan, that function only uses your local copy of the MT table |
| 22:56.56 | haste | Kebinusan, if you want to recieve a new one from a raid leader / raid officer use /ora request |
| 22:59.11 | Kebinusan | yeah tried that too, not getting the set main tank list |
| 22:59.29 | Kebinusan | hmm/boggle |
| 23:00.43 | snurre | Thrae: oh btw.. what I find a bit hard to notice is if my target has me targeted or not.. TipBuddy shows it as [YOU] in white, and on a dark bg it's alot easier to spot (plus that it shows it on the same line as your mouseover-target's name "Randomnoob : [YOU]" |
| 23:01.13 | snurre | in tt it feels a little hidden in the other info, especially with red background and red text saying "You" |
| 23:01.34 | CIA-7 | 03wobin * r3740 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: FuXP - Fixed a error in rep reporting |
| 23:02.43 | Tuplad | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5431139248643558220&q=pvp omg look at his unitframes |
| 23:03.33 | Thrae | snurre: Post your suggestions on the wowace.com thread |
| 23:03.55 | snurre | omg, that sounds like work |
| 23:04.08 | Tekcub | muahahahhaha! |
| 23:05.01 | Amadeo | Thrae: You should have a WoWI Portal :) |
| 23:05.40 | snurre | Tuplad: that is so horrible |
| 23:06.22 | Tuplad | I agree |
| 23:07.06 | Tuplad | but he's god |
| 23:07.07 | Tuplad | good* |
| 23:07.32 | hyperChipmunk | yea, getting high numbers from the RNG is mad skill |
| 23:08.40 | snurre | h4x |
| 23:09.15 | Tuplad | rng? |
| 23:10.13 | Amadeo | wow, that's bad |
| 23:10.19 | Amadeo | horrible UI, horrible music :P |
| 23:10.30 | Amadeo | Plus he's....OOMkin :P |
| 23:11.35 | CIA-7 | 03tekkub * r3741 10GratuityLib/ (Lib/GratuityLib.lua SampleTooltip.xml): |
| 23:11.35 | CIA-7 | GratuityLib |
| 23:11.35 | CIA-7 | - Now dynamically allocates a tooltip via LUA if one is needed on init, thanks |
| 23:11.35 | CIA-7 | to Patch 1.11 XML-declared tooltips, and thus RegisterTooltip, are totally |
| 23:11.35 | CIA-7 | unneeded. This also means the mod is library is fully functional on load now! |
| 23:11.36 | CIA-7 | - Removed SampleTooltip.xml since IT'S NOT NEEDED NOW! |
| 23:11.48 | Tekcub | *dancedancedance* |
| 23:12.11 | Amadeo | Tekcub: Did that fix that bug? :D |
| 23:12.15 | Amadeo | the um... |
| 23:12.22 | Amadeo | something about buffs :P |
| 23:12.23 | Tekcub | s/mod is library/library/ |
| 23:12.44 | Tekcub | no that fixes nothing, just removes the need to register a tooltip now |
| 23:13.12 | Tekcub | and "I hate to sound like a dick" but right now I don't give a rat's ass about that error :) |
| 23:13.20 | Amadeo | haha |
| 23:13.21 | Tekcub | I'll fix it when I have the time to hunt it down |
| 23:13.49 | Amadeo | Why do you think I'm on your case about it? :D |
| 23:14.38 | Amadeo | I'd do it for you, but I want to make sure everyone in here learns |
| 23:14.42 | Tuplad | moonkin is never an oomkin imo, they're being under estimated |
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| 23:14.45 | Amadeo | You know...I'm a teacher in a way |
| 23:14.47 | Amadeo | :P |
| 23:14.59 | Tekcub | bullshit, you just don't want to :P |
| 23:15.03 | Amadeo | Tuplad: In his 1v1 with the Rogue, he almost ran out of mana :P |
| 23:15.20 | Tuplad | well |
| 23:15.21 | Tuplad | that's onrmal |
| 23:15.26 | Amadeo | Tekcub: Correction, I don't know wtf I'm doing :P |
| 23:15.30 | Tekcub | I drove our guild moonkin to respec |
| 23:15.35 | Tekcub | same thing |
| 23:15.38 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 23:15.38 | Tuplad | a fire mage would run out of mana after 1 kill aswell, an elemental shaman runs out of mana after huge burst dps aswell I have been told |
| 23:15.54 | Tuplad | moonkin is sick dps: D |
| 23:16.03 | Amadeo | 3 second casts suck though |
| 23:16.11 | Amadeo | or whatever it is |
| 23:16.13 | Amadeo | is it 3.5? |
| 23:17.16 | Tuplad | but the result ... the result ! |
| 23:17.27 | Tuplad | with mage gear you got like 2.5k starfires and 1k moonfires |
| 23:17.48 | Tuplad | that druid does a good job on outhealing warlock's damage imo |
| 23:17.52 | Amadeo | I've had a Rank 14 Druid Ravage me in Cat form for 2200 before |
| 23:18.34 | snurre | http://snurre.110mb.com/tinytip.jpg (imagine red tooltip bg) vs http://snurre.110mb.com/tipbuddy.jpg |
| 23:18.37 | steino | that what a bluegeared roge can ambush |
| 23:18.39 | steino | thats* |
| 23:18.51 | steino | xD |
| 23:18.58 | Amadeo | steino: Yeah, but that Druid can root, heal and run too :P |
| 23:18.59 | Tuplad | true |
| 23:19.04 | Tuplad | and 2200 is weak |
| 23:19.05 | steino | true enough |
| 23:19.17 | Tuplad | I had 2k ravages in blue gear on my druid |
| 23:19.17 | Amadeo | Tuplad: It was a while back, they might hit for more now |
| 23:19.24 | Tuplad | they do fo' sho' ! |
| 23:19.31 | Tuplad | with that epic 1h mace, rawrrr |
| 23:19.33 | Amadeo | Someone told me their bear form can crit 1500's |
| 23:19.37 | Amadeo | but I dunno |
| 23:19.46 | Amadeo | I don't know Druid moves or anything |
| 23:19.47 | Tuplad | well, I think I told you about the druid that has 2300 ap |
| 23:20.01 | Tuplad | he literally 2-3 shots clothies |
| 23:20.05 | snurre | i tried a pre-aq druid with 1616 unbuffed AP |
| 23:20.09 | Tuplad | SL warlocks aint a prob |
| 23:20.10 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 23:20.15 | Tuplad | snurre: evil |
| 23:20.18 | Amadeo | brb |
| 23:20.26 | Tuplad | druids are under estimated imo |
| 23:20.35 | Tuplad | but druid vs druid ... never ends |
| 23:21.02 | Tuplad | feral or not, one goes out of form, sleeps, heals or eats & drinks, goes again |
| 23:21.55 | Tuplad | when I was like 48, I lold at a sitting troll mage level 53 |
| 23:21.58 | snurre | not like warr vs warr where whoever gets the lucky crit and parry wins .p |
| 23:22.04 | Tuplad | and the worst thing .... he tried to sheep me 3 times -_-" |
| 23:22.14 | Tuplad | snurre: I never lost to a druid, only a paladin |
| 23:22.31 | snurre | i got like 2 shotted or wtfever by a guildie once |
| 23:22.33 | Tuplad | the paladin was a pro tho, when I played my druid, I didnt even know what stats I needed |
| 23:22.36 | snurre | 2.8k starfire etc |
| 23:22.40 | Tuplad | o_O |
| 23:22.45 | Wobin | hehe |
| 23:22.51 | Wobin | I'm reminded of the Brother's mechanima |
| 23:22.52 | Tuplad | that shows you how powerful druids are :p |
| 23:23.21 | snurre | are.. or can be.. slight difference :p |
| 23:23.28 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07Alpha * r3743 10Ace2/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Ace2 - fixed real-life upgrading bugs |
| 23:23.36 | Wobin | ... |
| 23:23.44 | snurre | real-life upgrading bugs lol |
| 23:23.44 | Wobin | You can upgrade real-life? |
| 23:23.45 | Thrae | Changes in v0.30.3743 |
| 23:23.45 | Thrae | - New settings for backdrop and border: You can now specify if you want the backdrop to ALWAYS be black, and if you want to hide the border. |
| 23:23.48 | Thrae | - /ttip report should now work for variables that store numbers, too. |
| 23:24.02 | snurre | *hugs* |
| 23:24.28 | Tuplad | :> |
| 23:24.34 | ckknight | I mean, I put em into WoW |
| 23:24.40 | Thrae | Alright, I'm going to try and stick with my current version of TinyTip, no more feature creeps until after Release Candidate. |
| 23:24.47 | ckknight | two equal versions with different minor versions |
| 23:24.50 | ckknight | then upgraded all of Ace2 |
| 23:24.53 | ckknight | and made it work |
| 23:25.02 | Kebinusan | mjc, have you tried reverting a couple versions to fix that tank thing? I just did and no love, I wonder if ctra changed something |
| 23:26.08 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r3744 10TinyTip/CHANGELOG.TXT: |
| 23:26.17 | Thrae | Ohhhh TinyTip catches that, but not my 5 other commits |
| 23:26.24 | Thrae | s/TinyTip/CIA-7/ |
| 23:26.36 | hyperChipmunk | you have to have a comment |
| 23:26.48 | hyperChipmunk | oh hm |
| 23:26.49 | hyperChipmunk | you didn't |
| 23:27.02 | hyperChipmunk | anyway, start commenting; it pisses people off |
| 23:27.32 | ckknight | agreed. |
| 23:27.46 | Thrae | I WAS commenting, check the logs for the folder |
| 23:27.50 | Tuplad | bah, gonna corpse camp some cows on my brother's rogue >_> |
| 23:27.52 | ckknight | minimally put the name of your project, i.e. TinyTip |
| 23:28.02 | hyperChipmunk | does TinyTip allow you to have an offset from the mouse cursor? |
| 23:28.14 | hyperChipmunk | so it's not covering everything up |
| 23:28.21 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Since the new version with the SMARTCURSOR option, yes, kinda |
| 23:28.38 | hyperChipmunk | oh, I see |
| 23:28.39 | hyperChipmunk | offy |
| 23:28.44 | Thrae | Except I use GetCursorPosition() in a hacky way, so be prepared -- you can't normally offset ANCHOR_CURSOR |
| 23:29.30 | hyperChipmunk | ah, well it doesn't do anything =P |
| 23:29.44 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: That's because the default is CURSOR, not SMARTCURSOR |
| 23:30.00 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 23:30.02 | Tuplad | http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6229/16021ph.jpg omg, where do they get such lameness ? :\ |
| 23:30.14 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.18 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07Alpha * r3745 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: AceDB - added svn:keywords |
| 23:31.03 | hyperChipmunk | k looks like it'd work if 0 was centered on the cursor =p |
| 23:31.35 | hyperChipmunk | or even if the X value was correct; you could compensate |
| 23:31.46 | hyperChipmunk | but it's about 400 pixels to the left and about 200 down from center |
| 23:31.53 | hyperChipmunk | s/center/cursor/ |
| 23:31.59 | *** part/#wowace Tuplad (n=tuplad@d54C52170.access.telenet.be) |
| 23:32.12 | Thrae | Hmmm, are you using a custom ui scale? |
| 23:32.24 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 23:32.26 | hyperChipmunk | also |
| 23:32.30 | hyperChipmunk | the backdrop doesn't change |
| 23:34.00 | CIA-7 | 03ckknight 07Alpha * r3746 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - fixed /ace2 about version |
| 23:34.09 | hyperChipmunk | ooh, there's an offx |
| 23:35.14 | hyperChipmunk | now it needs to only apply to world frame stuff |
| 23:35.32 | hyperChipmunk | how do I get it back to the default anchor |
| 23:36.04 | hyperChipmunk | n/m...TinyTipDB.Anchor=nil worked |
| 23:36.25 | gnorlish | hacker! |
| 23:36.44 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r3747 10TinyTip/TinyTipTargets.lua: - Changed Target Of Mouse option to display <<YOU>> in white for best compatibility with backdrop coloring. |
| 23:37.04 | Thrae | snurre: There you go. |
| 23:37.13 | snurre | hihi |
| 23:37.17 | snurre | *humps* |
| 23:37.29 | hyperChipmunk | does it actually use black for my backdrop when I set it to 3 now? |
| 23:37.53 | hyperChipmunk | nope |
| 23:37.57 | hyperChipmunk | people are still pink =P |
| 23:38.37 | hyperChipmunk | ooh, that's just friends |
| 23:38.49 | hyperChipmunk | k got it |
| 23:39.00 | Thrae | oops |
| 23:39.31 | Thrae | No, I'll keep that in there |
| 23:39.51 | Thrae | Waaaait...I'll change that |
| 23:39.56 | *** join/#wowace Jens (i=Jens@unaffiliated/jens) |
| 23:40.09 | Jens | Anyone using RepToGo? |
| 23:40.49 | Tekcub | ckk, I think that's a great idea! |
| 23:40.57 | ckknight | hey people, what do you all think about putting specialized library asserts into AceLibrary? |
| 23:41.03 | Tekcub | *grin* |
| 23:41.21 | snurre | thanks Thrae, alot better now |
| 23:41.32 | ckknight | e.g. self:error("message") would cause an error to raise right above the library, not inside it |
| 23:42.17 | ckknight | currently you can use em with AceLibraryBase, but that's a whole extra dependency |
| 23:42.43 | ckknight | basically, if I put em into AceLibrary, every library will have access to the methods |
| 23:43.26 | ckknight | already AceLibrary injects :GetLibraryVersion() into the libs |
| 23:44.13 | Wobin | Man, this LiveTrumps is addictive: http://www.remotegoat.co.uk/livetrumps.php?a=eb08d&u=wobin&r=97 |
| 23:45.46 | Neronix | ckknight: Go ahead |
| 23:45.49 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r3748 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: - BGColor == 3 and NotFriends (friends coloring) are now mutually exclusive. Guildmates and Friends NAMES will still be colored. |
| 23:46.24 | ckknight | I do think it'd cause more good than harm... |
| 23:46.48 | gnorlish | oh dear lord |
| 23:46.57 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 23:46.57 | gnorlish | i acidentally toggled pvp icons |
| 23:47.08 | gnorlish | and now i have a pvp icon next to everything i mouse over |
| 23:47.19 | Tekcub | having the better assert available is a good thing, it'll cause less headaches like that zoning bug in Gratuity taht's not Gratuity, of course |
| 23:47.48 | ckknight | yes |
| 23:47.55 | ckknight | along with every other lib that uses em. |
| 23:47.58 | Tekcub | I hate that error |
| 23:48.15 | Neronix | Would there be a way to replace the global error() with self:error() but just for my lib only? |
| 23:48.32 | ckknight | that's what it is |
| 23:48.38 | ckknight | it's error, assert, and argCheck |
| 23:48.59 | snurre | lol Thrae, now it shows all player names in purple |
| 23:49.08 | Neronix | Yeah, but wouldn't doing say... passing a string to table.setn() still call the global error()? |
| 23:49.16 | ckknight | ah, yes |
| 23:49.17 | Thrae | dammit |
| 23:49.20 | ckknight | which it should |
| 23:49.25 | ckknight | because that's an error in your library |
| 23:49.26 | snurre | guild names too |
| 23:49.30 | ckknight | not in what called your library |
| 23:49.47 | Neronix | I'd love errors in my lib to be redirected to self:error so that it'd show up for whatever called it |
| 23:49.48 | ckknight | that's the point of these functions |
| 23:49.49 | snurre | shows your friends/guild backdrop as purple too, very strong purple |
| 23:49.51 | ckknight | no, Neronix |
| 23:49.53 | ckknight | that'd be bad. |
| 23:50.09 | ckknight | and technically impossible |
| 23:50.16 | Neronix | Ah, ok then |
| 23:51.11 | ckknight | okay, I'll put it in |
| 23:51.15 | ckknight | if people bitch, I'll take it out |
| 23:51.50 | Tekcub | ckk, wasn't there a wikipage with the library file naming standard somewhere? |
| 23:52.00 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:52.05 | ckknight | AceLibrary_Template |
| 23:52.08 | ckknight | either way |
| 23:52.14 | ckknight | it's <Name>-#.# |
| 23:52.18 | Tekcub | oh there it is |
| 23:52.19 | ckknight | a la Compost-1.0 |
| 23:52.26 | Tekcub | not CompostLib |
| 23:52.28 | Tekcub | -1 |
| 23:52.29 | ckknight | right |
| 23:52.46 | ckknight | DewdropLib's major version will be Dewdrop-1.0 |
| 23:53.05 | ckknight | and Babble's will be Babble-1.2 |
| 23:53.33 | CIA-7 | 03thrae * r3749 10TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: If BGColor == 3, names should no longer be purple unless they're your friends and NotFriends is not set. |
| 23:54.00 | Tekcub | I actually think, to prevent confusion with the standalones, I'm gonna up the major version on each |
| 23:54.06 | ckknight | actually Babble will be Babble-Spell-1.2 |
| 23:54.10 | Tekcub | for mine |
| 23:54.15 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:54.19 | ckknight | I prolly will too |
| 23:54.20 | ckknight | 2.0 ftw |
| 23:54.32 | ckknight | or more likely 1.3 |
| 23:54.40 | Tekcub | well else I'll have "Lib" and Compost-1.0" and people will be like "omg which ones!" |
| 23:54.49 | snurre | Thrae: working now |
| 23:54.54 | ckknight | prolly |
| 23:55.09 | ckknight | I want to have optional Compost support for the Ace2 components that use it |
| 23:55.17 | ckknight | well, that can use it |
| 23:55.49 | ckknight | did you get my message on how to use AceEvent? |
| 23:55.52 | ckknight | with a lib |
| 23:58.31 | Mikma | was there any way of detecting that player is under water (breathbar) |
| 23:59.06 | Thrae | Mikma: Check for the breathbar frame, check for underwater breathing buffs (aquatic form, hydro cane, bubbles, et. all) |
| 23:59.22 | Mikma | Thrae: mmkay, well FeralSkills is kinda stupid on that one |
| 23:59.43 | Mikma | Thrae: it always throws me a message "Another action is in progress" when i use the travel form/aquatic form |
| 23:59.56 | Thrae | Mikma: Yes, because that's the best way to do it. |
