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00:00.02hyperChipmunkraid targets are icons
00:00.03Cairennewww, McDonalds ... why bother?
00:00.05tragywyddare ducks often hungry?
00:00.14Mikma~whalestab MoonWolf
00:00.15purlACTION stabs MoonWolf with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
00:00.19TekcubI have not eaten at McD's in... 7 years now
00:00.30Cairennlol, that's a new ~whale ... I like that one
00:00.41Mikmawell it's the only place open here, except of course those oh so hygienic kebab-places
00:00.42Tekcubyea, RAID_TARGET_UPDATE fires when icons change
00:00.45NeronixI'm trusting you guys to spread my whalestab :P
00:00.54hyperChipmunkmore appropriate for my ~whaleparry
00:01.02tragywydd~whalestab cladhaire
00:01.03purlACTION stabs cladhaire with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
00:01.05cladhaire~whaleparry
00:01.11cladhaire*gasp*
00:01.13cladhaireHE LIES TO ME
00:01.18hyperChipmunk~whaleparry tragywydd
00:01.19purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry tragywydd's attacks.
00:01.19tragywyddBWAHAHAHAHAHA
00:01.24Cairennyou forgot the variable, cladhaire :p
00:01.39Tekcubwe need a ~whalebubble
00:01.41Mikma~whaleblock Jesus
00:01.42purlACTION shields Jesus with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag
00:01.47hyperChipmunkyou are unskilled in the way of the whale
00:01.51tragywydd~whalecounterparry Cladhaire
00:01.53Tekcubare whale ally or horde?
00:02.03Cairennone might even say your whalefu is weak
00:02.06NeronixTekcub: bubble as in pally bubble?
00:02.10Tekcubduh
00:02.22KebinusanIm laughing so hard
00:02.25nullpuppyi would think whales lie in the goblin category
00:02.26NeronixI'm on it
00:02.30Kebinusanyou can whaleparry and block
00:02.32Wobin~literal whaleparry
00:02.38tragywydd~whaleriposte
00:02.42Cairennnuh uh! whales are totally pirates!
00:02.46Mikmagod damn, i'll have to simplify my slashcommands
00:02.49Mikmaninjapiratewhale!
00:02.50nullpuppyyeah, that works too
00:02.53tragywydd~whalecorpsacorps
00:02.54cladhairei just accidentally loaded my UI with almost everything enbled.
00:02.54Cairennlol Mikma
00:02.55*** join/#wowace Galka_ (n=Galka@pool-72-88-143-74.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
00:03.00Tekcub~manbearpig
00:03.04cladhaireand i ahve 5 sets of unit frames, and 3 sets of raid frames right now.
00:03.17Cairennyou *are* having a bad night, aren't you sweetie?
00:03.18Mikmai feel love i feel love
00:03.19TekcubTauren Druids == manbearcow
00:03.23cladhaireso true.
00:03.28hyperChipmunkpurl_: whalebubble is <action>orders a well-armored whale named Stevo to cast Blessing of Protection on $who!
00:03.30tragywydd~whalecoupdegrace cladhaire
00:03.32TainWhat is love?  Baby don't hurt me.
00:03.35NeronixNOOOO
00:03.44hyperChipmunkhm
00:03.54Wobinpurl_ is nonresponsive =(
00:03.55Tekcub~yiff
00:03.56purlhmm... yiff is at http://www.iki.fi/wwwwolf/games/xyiff.html
00:03.57hyperChipmunk=(
00:04.08Tekcuboh a link...
00:04.10Amadeocladhaire: I just figured it out....
00:04.11hyperChipmunk~whalebubble
00:04.12purlACTION orders a well-armored whale named Stevo to cast Blessing of Protection on hyperchipmunk!
00:04.17Amadeopurl coded PCUF!
00:04.18Wobinodd
00:04.20cladhaireAmadeo: ?
00:04.21cladhairehaha
00:04.23Makknoone? :(
00:04.29Kebinusanthats not how I would define yiff
00:04.31Makkwhich actionbars do you use?
00:04.32Kebinusanbut all good
00:04.48Tekcubthat link is wrong, stupid purl
00:04.53NeronixPCUF's code could actually be obfuscated perl in disguise :P
00:04.54tragywyddyour mom is wrong, imo
00:04.58hyperChipmunk~whalebubble
00:04.59purlACTION orders a well-armored whale named Stevo to cast Blessing of Protection on hyperchipmunk!
00:05.21Tekcubpurl, no yiff is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiff
00:05.22purlTekcub: okay
00:05.29Cairenngrarg! where the hell are all my neighbours! gd it!
00:05.31hyperChipmunk~whalebubble
00:05.32purlACTION orders a well-armored killer whale named Stevo to cast Blessing of Protection on hyperchipmunk!
00:05.36hyperChipmunkthere we go
00:05.43tragywydd~whalethrust cladhaire
00:05.51Cairenn*snicker*
00:05.54tragywyddthis whale fencing is all sortst of lacking
00:06.12Wobin~whalestab hyperChipmunk
00:06.14purlACTION stabs hyperChipmunk with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
00:06.33Neronixpurl_: whalenutshot $foo is <action> smashes $foo in the nuts with a huge, yet swift whale named Ricardo
00:06.36hyperChipmunk~whaleparry Wobin
00:06.37purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Wobin's attacks.
00:06.41Neronix~whalenutshot Neronix
00:06.53CIA-703cladhaire * r3636 10Clique/ (CliqueUtils.lua Plugins/Clique_PCUF.lua): Clique: Fixed the regexp in the spellbook scanner that caused spells rank 10 or higher to cast rank 1 instead =)
00:07.24Neronix~whalenutshot Neronix
00:07.26purlACTION smashes Neronix in the nuts with a huge, yet swift whale named Ricardo
00:07.45Wobin~whaleslap hyperChipmunk
00:07.47purlACTION beats hyperChipmunk upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
00:07.52hyperChipmunk~whalebubble
00:07.54purlACTION calls upon a well armoured whale called Stevo, who looks at what's arrayed against hyperchipmunk, casts a pallybubble and hearths.
00:08.01hyperChipmunklol
00:08.09tragywydd~whalebubble
00:08.10purlACTION calls upon a well armoured whale called Stevo, who looks at what's arrayed against tragywydd, casts a pallybubble and hearths.
00:08.20Tekcubshouln't that be !whalebubblehearth
00:08.25*** join/#wowace Tem_ (n=tardmrr@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)
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00:08.25Tekcub*~
00:08.34Galka_Someone kick Galka please :/
00:08.34Wobin~doom
00:08.35purlACTION stalks wobin, chanting doom on you, doom on you!
00:08.39Galka_So I can identify :/
00:08.43AmadeoNeronix: You broke Lexan!
00:08.43hyperChipmunkpurl_ no, whalebubble is <action>orders a well-armored killer whale named Stevo to cast Blessing of Protection on $who!
00:08.46haste~moredots
00:08.47purlRun to the centre!
00:08.49hyperChipmunkpurl no, whalebubble is <action>orders a well-armored killer whale named Stevo to cast Blessing of Protection on $who!
00:08.51purlhyperChipmunk: okay
00:08.53WobinGalka use /ghost
00:09.02tragywydd~moredots
00:09.04purlWhelps, LEFT SIDE!! Even side, MANY WHELPS!!
00:09.05Tekcub~Dr. Tran
00:09.06purlHere comes Dr. Tran!
00:09.06Galka_ghost Unknown command
00:09.07NeronixGalka: /nickserv ghost Galka password
00:09.08cladhairewow..
00:09.16cladhaireOMG GALKA USES PASSWORD AS PASSWORD
00:09.18NeronixAmadeo: Error?
00:09.26NeronixIt should be fixed now
00:09.32Tekcubis it bad that today a guy at work said "Hickory smoked" (I don't know why he did) and I broke into a giggle-fit?
00:09.33Mikmacladhaire: hah
00:09.38NeronixWait, I forgot to commit >.<
00:09.43WobinHickory smoked is so CRAZY
00:09.57AmadeoNeronix: Cannot find a library...oh :)
00:09.59tragywyddTekcub ummm...why?
00:10.07Tekcub~dr. Tran
00:10.08purl"Q" is for Dr. Tran
00:10.10GalkaDont make fun of my Clad -_-
00:10.13Galkame*
00:10.22Tekcubstupid purl... one sex taggy
00:10.31CIA-703cladhaire * r3637 10Clique/ (Clique.lua CliqueUtils.lua):
00:10.31CIA-7Clique:
00:10.31CIA-7* Removed the debug message from BestRank
00:10.31CIA-7* Fixed an issue where you'd randomly target the last known target when
00:10.31CIA-7* click-casting wihtout a target.
00:10.32CIA-7* target.
00:10.55CIA-703neronix * r3638 10Lexan/: Lexan - I suck at externaling
00:11.00Tekcubyoutube took down Dr. Tran... fuckers
00:11.07Wobinthey did?
00:11.10Wobinbastards
00:11.13Tekcubhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiff
00:11.17Tekcubsomeone reposted it :)
00:11.20NeronixBut who's dr tran?
00:11.29Tekcuboh stupid copy paste..
00:11.34Tekcubhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuN_VWZt35g
00:11.37tragywyddare you a furry tekcub?
00:11.41Tekcubyes
00:11.43Tekcub:P
00:11.49TekcubDUH!
00:11.54Tekcubare you new here?
00:12.00cladhairelol
00:12.02tragywyddlol yes, actually
00:12.10Tekcublikely excuse
00:12.10Neronixlol
00:12.15cladhaireand I'm dating a man.
00:12.21cladhaireAce made me gay
00:12.30AmadeoOh, so check this out...I'm watching TV last night and the typical eHarmony commercial comes on...Well, I wasn't paying much attention until I see some guy that I f'ing recognized...it was my old high school gym teacher...talking about some chick he met on eHarmony, hahah
00:12.43GalkaTek is a furry to the extent that he/she/it fondles even Galkas
00:12.49GalkaAnd Galkas were not made to be fondled.
00:12.50Industrialcladhaire: fo shizzle?
00:12.53Tekcubeven? mainly
00:13.00TekcubI like the big furry manly types
00:13.01IndustrialEW
00:13.02Industrial:|
00:13.17IndustrialI like me, and thats it
00:13.18Industrial;D
00:13.19Tekcuboh shut up you like it...
00:13.25Tekcuball that galkan sausage biz
00:13.26Industrialnu-uh
00:13.38WobinAmadeo: Scaaary
00:13.40cladhaireTekcub: Do you have animal transformation fantasies?
00:13.49AmadeoWobin: I freaked!
00:14.05Tekcubclad's been clicking links on that wikipedia page...
00:14.21tragywyddwell, to me furry = likes to dress as animals and have sex..
00:14.33Tekcuband if by that you mean "would you rather be a big furry beast than a human?"  yea prolly
00:14.36Tekcubhuman suck
00:14.36cladhaireTekcub: No, i've always known what it means
00:14.41cladhairebut i never asked that question
00:15.02cladhaire=)
00:15.06cladhaireand it felt it was pertinent
00:15.36Tekcub^^
00:16.15Galkahttp://fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/addons/ouf2/oUF2-r2692.png
00:16.22Galkalower left corner
00:16.24GalkaIs that DamageMeters in his screenshot?
00:16.38IndustrialTekcub: the movie is hilarious
00:16.53Tekcubindie... you hadn't seen Dr. Tran?
00:16.57Tekcub~Dr. Tran
00:16.58purlHickory smoked is so crazy what's wrong with you!?
00:17.12mjcGalka: ou mean lower right?
00:17.19Galkalower right, yes
00:17.21GalkaSorry brain fart
00:17.31mjcit looks like it ahs a changed font and modified color values
00:17.33mjcotherwise yes
00:17.37mjcsame addon
00:17.50Tekcub~horse buttholes
00:17.51purlfrom a cup!
00:17.56mjc~moredots
00:17.57purlFIFTY DKP MINUS!!
00:18.06Neronixwho/what's Dr Tran? O.o
00:18.07IndustrialHOT
00:18.08GalkaThat isn't ClearFont, is it?
00:18.08IndustrialDICKINGS
00:18.10Industriallmao
00:18.17Wobinhehe
00:18.19NeronixGalka: Bitstream Vera Serif :<
00:18.22Tekcuboh yea, our only lock in AQ20 got +50 DKP last night
00:18.26Tekcubit was great
00:18.51Tekcubthe Rajaax bullshit kept bugging on us, we'd take down like wave5 and then the next wouldn't come...
00:18.52WobinPoor purl, is like the guy at parties who knows every single movie quote and drunk people start yelling at him for random movies =P
00:18.58WobinTekcub: Oh we had that
00:19.14Tekcubwe'd fall out of combat, get everyone rezed, and try to pull... end up getting 2 waves and they'd wipe us...
00:19.16WobinThen the next day we came back, and all the waves had despawned
00:19.31WobinAnd RAjaxx was just sitting there waiting
00:19.32Tekcubso on the last attempt the lock gets SS up on himself just before the wipe
00:19.47CIA-703cladhaire * r3639 10MiniBlizzRaid/MiniBlizzRaid.lua: MiniBlizzRaid: Updated for 1.11.1
00:19.50Tekcubwe're all eating dirt, bitching... he rez's
00:20.06Tekcubthen "Kill Destruction!" *wave of mobs*
00:20.23Tekcubhe bolts off, people are just zoning in....
00:20.31Wobinand they get sucked in?
00:20.35Mikmacladhaire: so, we really don't need MiniBlizzRaid until the bug is fixed?
00:20.38Tekcubhe drags the whole wave to the door and they wipe everyone who ran back
00:20.40Wobinoh yeah, had that happen =P
00:20.52Galkalmao that DrTran link is hilarious
00:21.01WobinTekcub: We had that happen on Kurinaxx
00:21.06Tekcubit was great, they gave him 50 DKP just for making the Rajaxx bullshit amusing
00:21.14WobinSo everyone who ran in, got TELEPORTED TO KURI AND STOMPED =P
00:21.33TekcubGalka, now you get why I had a giggle-fit at work over "Hickory smoked!"
00:21.44GalkaHavent finished it yet
00:21.50WobinBut the buggy Rajaxx is funny
00:21.50Galkaup to the part where young wigger gets knocked out
00:21.52cladhaireMikma: It might still do something *shrug* I still seem to save memory
00:21.53Galkalol
00:21.53cladhairei just dont know how.
00:22.00Tekcubyea they need to just remove Rajaax, it's too fucking buggy
00:22.10WobinWe got to practice on Rajaxx alone
00:22.23WobinSince the waves despawned completely =P
00:22.35Tekcubmaybe we should go in tonight and take the bitch down if he's alone
00:22.37Tekcub*checks*
00:23.22AmadeoMiniBlizzRaid is the one that removes the raid to save memory if you use a different mod for it?
00:23.30tragywydd<PROTECTED>
00:23.44GalkaYes Amadeo
00:24.00Tekcubyea clad... if I could get bred by a werebear I would in a heartbeat, guess I do have animal transformation fantasies
00:24.00CIA-703mikma * r3640 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender: Remade the SavedVariables to be easier for myself. Misc changes.
00:24.43Amadeocool, gotta get it
00:26.27Mikmano more horrible BartenderConfig.Saved.BartenderActionBar1.PosX crap ;)
00:26.34cladhaireTekcub: =)
00:26.41cladhaireAnyone have any more bugs for me to work on?
00:26.43cladhairemy list is empty
00:26.50KyahxI got my guild leader and raid leader to switch to oRA :P
00:26.52Mikmanow it's shorter atleast haha, BarDB.Pos.Saved.BBar1.PosX
00:26.54Kyahxand PerfectRaid
00:26.56Kyahxhehe
00:27.00cladhairehehe
00:27.04cladhairePerfectRaid is so shitty righ tnow
00:27.06TekcubI have a big list of bugs if you want em clad :)
00:27.07cladhaireit'll be fun to finish it.
00:27.14KyahxIts shitty, yet still amazeing functional
00:27.17Kyahxthat says something :P
00:27.18cladhaireputting a new Clique beta up
00:27.20TekcubI need to clear out my RTM lists... stupid employment
00:27.21cladhairelol
00:27.28Mikmashitty shit is always the shit
00:27.30cladhairethats what i write.. amazingly functional half-finished code =)
00:27.36Kyahxhehe
00:27.47kergothi hate it when i forget that an irc window is up in the scrollback somewhere
00:27.52kergothit seemed awfully quiet here
00:27.55Tekcubyea I write functional but rarely configurable code :)
00:28.10cladhaireoh i remember now.
00:28.10Tekcubkerg: you need The Low Down... for IRC
00:28.20Tekcubffix web SVN?
00:28.21kergothhehe
00:28.23Tekcub*fix
00:28.31cladhaireno
00:28.35kergothor i need the blinky pagedown button
00:28.36cladhairethats.. somewhere on the list.
00:28.44Tekcubuhm... add raid icon/target raid icon to PR?
00:28.47cladhairekergoth: compile SWIG bindings for perl for me on the web account.
00:28.52cladhaireTekcub: nope,
00:28.56cladhaireClique:CureAny()
00:28.58TekcubGFY?
00:29.02cladhairelater
00:30.16Tekcubyou know, I really like Dranei... I just don't like their legs... they need to nix the hooves and give em short stubby legs...
00:30.33MikmaTekcub: with furr?
00:30.39GalkaI AM NOT A MOCCODITY!
00:30.45WobinThat's sort of... clashy with the rest of the body though
00:30.54Tekcub*shrug* they look like they could be furry anyway
00:31.04Tekcubno it's not wob
00:31.05WobinThey have tentacles!
00:31.13Mikma~c'thun
00:31.14purl*** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - Pleasure! ***
00:31.15Tekcubthe rest of the body is galkan... why not the legs?
00:31.17WobinHow can you be any less furry than tentacles!
00:31.32Galkahttp://www.dahv.com/
00:31.34Tekcubtentacles are a different fantany
00:31.35GalkaVisit.
00:31.39CIA-703cladhaire * r3641 10Clique/ (Clique.lua CliqueUtils.lua): Clique: the unit argument is optional in Clique:UnitMenu()
00:31.48GalkaAllow your ears to be stimulated by the greatest vocal talent the world can ever know.
00:31.58Tekcub*annoying music*  *closes*  Sorry
00:32.05Wobinrofl
00:32.09GalkaClearly you just couldn't handle the Dahv.
00:32.13TekcubI don't do web pages with sounds
00:32.17WobinIt's like a really really bad midnight ad
00:32.22Wobinbut for teenagers
00:32.28*** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com)
00:32.33Tekcubbowchickabowwow
00:32.36GalkaWobin, I challenge you to listen to all the streaming offerings.
00:32.40Mikmahmm
00:32.45GalkaYou will then understand what it means to pass the Shirley Temple.
00:32.46WobinGalka: My brain is melting already
00:32.47MikmaGalka: your favorite? ;)
00:32.48Industrialhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1175367493081978705&q=world+of+warcraft
00:32.50Industriallmfao
00:32.53Tekcubfrom those 1.6 seconds of sound, not my kind of music
00:33.20Wobinwtf?
00:33.25Wobinzingazingzong?
00:33.28GalkaMikma, I must say I do so enjoy a nice listen to Pass the Shirley Temple ever so often.
00:33.33GalkaIt piques my mental faculty.
00:33.43kergothis it bad that i had to bring excedrin tension headache into work, and generally take 2 every day?
00:33.55Industrialhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-982380251124231965&q=world+of+warcraft
00:34.02Wobinkergoth: Yes.
00:34.06Wobinkergoth: Time for a new job
00:34.28kergothgood thing my last day is a week from tomorrow
00:34.33Wobinyay!
00:34.50MikmaIndustrial: too bad i wasn't online when KR brought him in SW :P
00:34.59Mikmai would have owned his ass with my mage
00:35.14WobinLeave the empty boxes/bottles of excedrin lined up on the table when you go =P
00:35.14GalkaHow in the samhell did they get Kazzak to SW?  O_o
00:35.27Mikmakite :)
00:35.47Mikmathe route is simple really if you look the map
00:36.10WobinBlasted lands to SW isn't too hard, I guess
00:36.29WobinI think the devilsaur to Orgrimmar was a long kite
00:36.30GalkaLMAO at the volley in the throne room
00:37.00Makkhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3382491587979249836
00:37.06MakkJump in my car *sings*
00:37.34Makk(It's horrible oh my fucking god)
00:37.42Makkwith a , after horrible
00:37.57WobinTanaris->Shimmering->1k needles->Feralas->Desolace->StoneTalon->Barrens->Durotar =P
00:38.13GalkaThat is unequivocably, the best song ever.
00:38.17GalkaDahv has been surpassed.
00:38.27Neronixlmao yass
00:38.30Neronixthe wigger got pwnt
00:38.32Galkazomg at the dancing in frot of the stars and stripes
00:38.32Wobinbah
00:38.39Wobinany youtube equiv?
00:38.44GalkaHOT CUP OF HOFFEE
00:38.44hyperChipmunkwtf is this invalid version in MiniBlizzRaid
00:38.45Galkalawwwwwwwwwl
00:38.47MakkGalka: yeah O_O
00:38.50Wobingooglevideo is clearly griefing me
00:39.06GalkaDamn he is slutting it up with that hot blackhaired chick
00:39.28GalkaChrist he's wearing so much makeup
00:39.59kergothaw, cant watch google videos from work
00:40.12GalkaMikma that can't be real
00:40.15GalkaThat's him singing?
00:40.40MikmaGalka: what?
00:40.47GalkaHasslehoff
00:40.54Galkanm, Makk rather
00:41.14Wobinoh
00:41.43MikmaGalka: that's him singing alright :)
00:41.50NeronixGod, I've never seen so many shadowbolts flying
00:41.52mjcminiblizzraid only frees the memory until I actually join a raid
00:41.55mjcit's pretty lame
00:42.08*** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com)
00:42.47kergothmjc: its broken in general atm, due to the blizzard_raidui loading before the addons can do anything about it.  see the threads on the subject
00:42.50kergothheh
00:42.52mjcaha
00:43.03kergothbliz bug
00:43.06mjccan it not be unloaded?
00:44.21cladhaireno
00:44.27cladhaireit loads before ANY addon period.
00:45.05mjcso you can't force an unload?
00:45.35kergothyou cant unload addons, or delete frames
00:45.38MikmaUnRegister("Blizzard_RaidUI") ;)
00:46.00mjclame
00:46.44cladhairei can't get this scorpid to poison me =(
00:46.54Wobinkick it some more
00:47.00cladhaireif i kick it it'll die.
00:47.06cladhairesomeone have a rogue on kael'thas? =)
00:47.06cladhairelol
00:47.46NeronixDisableAddon("Blizzard_RaidUI") ?
00:48.28mjcprobably doesn't stick
00:56.14cladhairei'm sitting in tanaris trying desperately to get poisoned.
00:56.22cladhairekeeping muyself alive with renew
00:56.52NeronixMaybe you're resisting it all the time?
00:57.14cladhairei am
00:57.20cladhairewhich is annoying to say the least =)
00:57.46mjcget naked
00:59.14cladhairek it works now
00:59.16cladhairegets the right cure
00:59.18cladhairejust doesn't cast it.
00:59.18cladhairehrm
01:00.22AmadeoWhat do you guys use for a spell alert type mod?
01:00.43Wobinhttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e242/code_samurai/funny/supercrack.jpg
01:01.27kloppeSA-SCT, but most here probably use Witchhunt
01:01.42AmadeoI'm using SA-SCT also, but retargetting is broken it seems
01:01.47AmadeoWhich I need!
01:02.04GalkaWitchHunt, though its very feature-poor atm
01:02.11GalkaEagerly awaiting his planned update
01:02.19Industrial11k crit
01:02.21Industrialwarlock
01:02.24Industrialhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6213393313950116387&q=world+of+warcraft\
01:02.27Industrialo_O
01:03.36Kyahx|afkIndustrial: Hows that cheese meter going?
01:03.36kergothi use sa-sct too
01:03.37Kyahx|afk:P
01:03.58Amadeokergoth: Can you fix it so the retargetting works again? :D
01:04.14Temcladhaire, you around?
01:04.15mjchttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1578952315615314769
01:04.30CIA-703cladhaire * r3642 10Clique/CliqueUtils.lua: Clique: Finished Clique:CureAny(), tested it as best I could (I kept resisting wtf)
01:05.04cladhaireTem: Yeah for a bit, whats up?
01:05.06mjcI'll test it too
01:05.15cladhairemjc: please do
01:05.28Temcladhaire, I'm wondering if SciTe has an option for this
01:05.39cladhairek
01:05.42IndustrialKyahx|afk: ;D
01:05.46TemI want new instances of the program to be shoved into the other as new tabs
01:05.57Temso that when I double click shit it just opens a new tab
01:06.02cladhairethat's how mine works
01:06.03cladhaireby default.
01:06.13cladhairei couldn't live if it was anything else.
01:06.19cladhaireis it not that way for you?
01:06.21Temno
01:06.25Temand it's driving me nuts
01:06.30mjcreloadui'ing
01:06.35cladhaireO.o
01:06.38cladhairevery odd.
01:06.41mjccladhaire: only thing that keeps me from using clique all the time is spell ranking
01:06.42TemI've got like 7 instances of it up atm
01:06.42mjc=(
01:06.49cladhairemjc: we're working on it.
01:06.53mjcyay!
01:06.54cladhairecheck the forums =)
01:06.56Temand fucking windows keeps shoving them together
01:06.57mjcsomeone said you don't believe in it
01:07.00cladhairei dont
01:07.08cladhairetem: hrm.. lemme look
01:07.16mjcso off by default then ;)
01:07.39cladhaireno
01:07.40cladhairei'll include it.
01:07.45cladhaireeven tho i think its for stupid people.
01:07.55cladhairei will not include spell cancelling tho
01:07.56cladhaireever
01:08.06mjclol yeah, that's a retarded feature imo
01:08.22mjcI have no idea how to play a priest so ranking helps me a bunch
01:08.35mjcbut cancelling, it's like...learn to hit w
01:08.38cladhaireTem: check.if.already.open=1
01:08.42cladhairein your global.properties
01:08.51Temthanks
01:09.04cladhairemjc: let me know if i can help, if it works, etc.
01:09.23mjcof course, flying to IF to queue in a big then wetlands to get cursed :D
01:09.30mjcer poisoned
01:09.32cladhairehaha
01:09.34mjccan't remove curses myself ;D
01:09.39mjc*bg
01:09.41cladhaireit will always cast the strongest spell
01:09.59mjcmy priest only has 1 rank of abolish disease
01:10.02cladhairebecause, again.. its not for the game to decide when to cast abolish versus cure
01:10.14TemI don't have global.properties
01:10.19Temsend me yours?
01:10.26Mikmacladhaire: does Clique update the spellranks now properly? :)
01:10.31cladhairewhat scite distro are you using?
01:10.37Temdunno
01:10.38cladhaireMikma: What do you mean updat ethe spellranks?
01:10.46TemI picked it up somewhere a long time ago
01:10.56Tembecause it had no installer
01:10.57cladhaireTem: wat do you get if you go to "Options" > Open User Options File
01:11.05cladhaireTem: I have one up on wowi, packaged and ready to go
01:11.06Mikmacladhaire: so you can't remember when i said some time ago that it can't cast proper ranks for lowlevels
01:11.15cladhaireMikma: Only when you have rank 10 of a spell
01:11.20cladhaireMikma: but yes, its fixed.
01:11.27cladhairethat was the only lingering bug there.
01:11.40Temit opens SciTEGlobal.properties
01:11.46cladhaire*nod* just put it in there.
01:11.46Temand SciTEUser.properties
01:12.27Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1596.new#new
01:12.44IndustrialAt least I was informative too on this post..
01:12.45Industrialsigh..
01:13.38Mikma11/27
01:13.39Temthanks Clad
01:13.41Temthat works
01:14.25IndustrialTem: is it possible to shut the karma off?
01:14.39mjccladhaire: Clique:CureAny(Clique.unit) ?
01:14.42Temyou mean on the forums?
01:14.46Industrial<PROTECTED>
01:14.49IndustrialTem: yes
01:14.56Temwhy?
01:15.01IndustrialTem: people keep -'ing me, im at -27
01:15.05cladhairemjc: or just Clique:CureAny()
01:15.07Kyahx|afkI've decided that the "Disband Raid" option in oRA_Menu needs a confirmation dialog
01:15.11AmadeoAnyone happen to know if AlphaMap still works in 1.11?
01:15.13Temmaybe that should tell you something?
01:15.13mjckk
01:15.21Kyahx|afkI just accidentally disbanded our BWL raid
01:15.28Kyahx|afk=X
01:15.30MikmaKyahx|afk: hah! owned!
01:16.03IndustrialTem: All of my replies were correct and if not I was told so. I have negative karma because these people give it to me! (literally!)
01:16.36TemI don't follow you around, but I've only given negative karma once, and it was because the guy was bing a complete dickface
01:16.37mjcKyahx|afk: ahahaha
01:16.42Mikmano we don't! it's a lie!
01:16.50Temso, maybe you should take a more objective look at your posting habits
01:16.54Temperhaps you are offending people
01:17.00Kyahx|afkits ok...oRA Invite dosent have a mass guld invite options >.<
01:17.05Temwether you are wrong or right means nothing
01:17.18Temwhat you meant also means nothing
01:17.26Temit's all how you are perceived
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01:17.43Temso, if you are getting this much negative karma, that tells me you are being perceived as an asshat
01:18.05Mikma~emulate Industrial
01:18.10purlOgm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls!
01:18.10WobinIndustrial: You are an asshat, but a likable one. We like to call it being 'blunt' =P
01:18.31mjchahaha
01:18.39Industrialwell, yeah
01:18.40mjcWobin: :D
01:18.49Industrialbut the karma still sucks
01:18.51Industrial:P
01:18.59WobinIt just means you're succeeding =)
01:19.04Industrialtrue, true
01:19.14AmadeoHm...did anyone ever make an AlphaMap type thing for Ace?
01:19.32kergothAmadeo: tried just using the battlefield minimap outside of bg? i've found that nearly as useful as alphamap was
01:19.59Amadeokergoth: How do you do that?
01:19.59Templus, I don't think I can turn it off anyway
01:20.02kergothor the small yatlas window.. and it looks like end will be trying to get an alphamap style view in yatlas future versions
01:20.02TemIndustrial, don't bother
01:20.05Industrialjust to see how I am going to make stuff myself
01:20.10IndustrialTem: looks pretty cool
01:20.19Temit makes me want to remove my eyes
01:20.26Temwith a blunt object
01:20.51WobinLike Industrial
01:20.59kergothon a completely off topic note, i wonder how my red crossfire would look with some black rims with a chrome lip.  /me ponders
01:21.12Amadeokergoth: Yatlas looks very interesting
01:21.18cladhaireanyone have a good svn > changelog convertor?
01:21.24Mikmakergoth: pink lipstick?
01:21.26cladhairei may just link directly to it for shits and giggles.
01:21.32IndustrialTem: here have an Industrial
01:21.57kergothAmadeo: quite.  look forward to future developments
01:22.07Mikma~whaleindustrial tem
01:22.11AmadeoIt's kind of hefty, does it use much memory?
01:22.16kergothhttp://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10031 shows the black rims on a black xfire... pretty sexy
01:22.38kergothAmadeo: less than you'd expect, he made improvements in that regard.  iirc its like 1.5 megs.. smaller than alphamap was
01:22.48kergothbut dont trust my memory, test for yourself :)
01:22.52Mikmakergoth: yes they are sexy for black car
01:22.58Mikmabut for red... hmm
01:23.11kergothhmm indeed
01:23.16Temkergoth, I think it looked *way* better without the black shit on the wheels
01:23.17kergothperhaps photoshopping is in order
01:23.24Mikmaaye
01:23.40Mikmalaters
01:23.55kergothTem: i think its a welcome change from teh typical 'lets chrome everything!' attitude.  different look
01:24.05Temmeh
01:24.08Amadeokergoth: I didn't think AlphaMap was that big
01:24.10Industrialhttp://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7918/wowscrnshot0630060323173sj.jpg
01:24.12kergothchrome wheels, especially when they're as big as those, can draw the eyes away from teh car itself. i hate that.
01:24.19Industrialneeds different bar textures but looks pretty neat
01:24.22Tempersonaly, I'd rather just have a nice looking car
01:24.32kergothIndustrial: what is that?
01:24.38Industrialdiscord
01:24.38Industrial:p
01:24.43kergothheh
01:24.47kergothdare i ask about the ram usage? :P
01:25.11IndustrialWhat was the function for it again?
01:25.20IndustrialI gotta remember
01:25.20Industrial:p
01:25.36IndustrialGCInfo() or something?
01:26.19Temawww
01:26.27kergothheh, i dunno, i rely on fubar's performance plugin or acegcinfo or whatever
01:26.33IndustrialYou are right though, I should probably get rid of it before it starts eating other parts of my pc aswell
01:26.38kergothhttp://kergoth.com/images/crossfire/crossfire5.jpg is my car the day or two after i bought it
01:26.41kergothIndustrial: hah
01:27.03Industrialkergoth: wah nice :o
01:27.38kergothand http://kergoth.com/images/crossfire/crossfire_boom1.jpg is two months after i bought it.  /me shakes fist at idiot drivers
01:28.00Industrialomfg?
01:28.00kergothmjc: what are you driving nowadays, again?
01:28.52Wobinkergoth: yow =(
01:29.02hyperChipmunkkergoth: your car looks a little broked
01:29.27cladhaireClique 2.0 released
01:29.32cladhaireerr
01:29.32cladhairewow
01:29.38cladhaireClique 0.2.0 released: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5108
01:29.39Temkergoth, and how is your car now?
01:29.43cladhairemjc: How's the testing going?
01:30.18Kyahx|afkClad: I'm doing BWL with no problems so far
01:30.49Amadeokergoth: Does Yatlas have instance maps too?
01:31.29kergothAmadeo: not that i know of, i think thats one of the most requested features.  but End would be the person to ask, over in the wowi lounge, he's the dev
01:31.44kergothTem: its fine, though the loan is naturally a lot more than its worth now :P
01:31.46kergothgotta love new cars
01:31.52Amadeogotcha
01:32.19AmadeoI hate to admit it, but I love the way the Saturn Sky looks
01:32.33kergoththat was $8k in damage to repair what you saw in that borked picture.  was tempted to sue the fucker for lowering my resale value
01:32.36kergothAmadeo: yeah, me too
01:32.42kergothits pretty underpowered though :\
01:32.54kergoththey need a turbocharger available for it
01:32.55AmadeoYeah, and I've heard it's got some cheap parts
01:33.07AmadeoI think the next Sky is going to be that "Red Line" version
01:33.10Amadeoso it should be
01:33.12kergoththe pontiac solstice looked like it had potential before it came out, but it looks pretty weak now
01:33.15cladhaireKyahx|afk: Are you using Clique:CureAny()?
01:33.20Kyahx|afkNope :P
01:33.35Kyahx|afkStill useing the version from yesterday, didnt want to update mid-raid
01:33.40AmadeoClique:CureAny? Sounds like a Decursive move!
01:34.01cladhairelol
01:34.04cladhairewell its there,
01:34.06cladhaireso use it.
01:34.07cladhaireand test it please.
01:34.17cladhairejust add a second binding for it.. leave DCR inthere for now
01:34.19cladhaireutnil it works =)
01:34.19kergotherrr, cureany? if i can drop decursive i'll be dancing a jig
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01:34.48cladhairekergoth: Well the code is all in there
01:34.49cladhairelol
01:34.56cladhairekergoth: Please test it all out for me.
01:35.10Amadeocladhaire: Don't forget Warlock Felhunters!
01:35.50mjcdecursive sucks ass
01:35.59Industrialckknight__: you there?
01:37.04cladhaireAmadeo: dont forget what about them?
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01:37.12Amadeothey can Devour Magic!
01:37.18cladhaireAmadeo: Meh.. i'll think about it
01:37.20Amadeo:)
01:37.24mjcdevour magic?
01:37.45AmadeoDispels one magic effect off self or target, and heals the Felhunter for whatever the rank amount is
01:38.16mjccool.
01:38.18Kyahx|afkClad: Does it scan the raid and cure?  Or is it a Cure unit?
01:38.29mjcunit
01:38.34Kyahx|afkkk, thats what I assumed
01:38.47mjcthe whole point of clique is unit click casting isn't it?
01:39.05mjchow can I cast arcane brilliance on rogues only with clique :p
01:39.12AmadeoI think clicking is better anyway for dispel
01:39.17Kyahx|afkwell, never know :P
01:39.18Amadeogives you control over what you're doing
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01:39.34Amadeoinstead of when 20 people have the same effect and it's random
01:39.54cladhaireyep
01:39.56cladhaireits not decursive
01:39.58mjc(that was partially a joke btw)
01:40.01cladhaireand its the most AI i'll code
01:40.03mjcbut partially true
01:40.09cladhairedeciding what spell to use to cure which ailments =)
01:40.12cladhaireanything else is for losers
01:40.23mjchaha
01:40.24mjctrue that
01:45.29cladhaireok
01:45.31cladhairei'm going to bed
01:46.40Industrialnn clad|sleep
01:50.47Wobininteresting article
01:50.48Wobinhttp://www.gameguidesonline.com/guides/articles/ggoarticleoctober05_01.asp
01:52.29AmadeoHow much Script Memory should I allocate on the Addons screen?
01:52.41Amadeo(Generally)
01:53.08WobinA little bit more than what addons you have use =)
01:53.23gnorlishjust to be safe
01:53.28gnorlish100x the amount you use
01:53.33gnorlishyou never know!
01:53.41Amadeois Script Memory the same as the MiB readout in FuBar's Performance? :P
01:54.07CIA-703thiana * r3643 10BabbleLib/Spell/BabbleLib-Spell.lua: BabbleLib-Spell: Fixed deDE 'Smelting' translation
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01:54.22mjccladhaire:  you wrote perfectraid as well?
01:55.49Industrial< cladhaire> i'm going to bed
02:02.35Industrialhttp://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7523/wowscrnshot0630060401449gi.jpg
02:02.38Industrialgo unitframe
02:05.23mjcol wtf
02:08.40Amadeois it possible to detect when a player is swimming in water?
02:11.56mjcBigwigs raidwarn thingy tried to /rw when I am not promoted
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02:15.52Amadeobbiab
02:17.37ckknighthrm
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02:19.41Industrialaaaand we have a name
02:20.34mjccladhaire wrote PR and PRT right?
02:20.45Industrialhttp://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5765/wowscrnshot0630060419519nd.jpg
02:20.49Industrialsurprisingly easy
02:20.54Industrialmjc: I believe so
02:21.12mjcI want to use PR for party frame =(
02:21.24Industrialim gunna use these
02:21.25Industrial:P
02:21.31Industrialsome time
02:21.31Industrial..
02:21.51IndustrialI like to stack them
02:21.52mjcwhat is that
02:21.57Industrialso i can compare the bars
02:22.05Industrialmy unit frames
02:22.13Industrialin the making
02:22.13Industrial:P
02:22.44Industrialbuffs will be on the right
02:22.59Industrialmeh its 4:20 am - again - so ill be goin to bed
02:23.05Industrialnn
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02:27.03Kaeltenheya guys
02:27.18AmadeoBye Kaelten
02:27.20Amadeo...
02:27.21Amadeolol
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02:27.27AmadeoHi Kaelten
02:27.45Kaeltenheya Amadeo
02:29.42Kyahx|afkmjc: I believe PRT is Tekkub's work
02:30.20mjcaha
02:30.26mjcbut pr is claidhaire?
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02:34.19Kyahx|afkyes
02:34.32Kyahx|afkYay!  Illidan down, even before the xpac is out!
02:34.42Kyahx|afk:(
02:35.06Kyahx|afkdamn servesr
02:37.00Temdewhahuh?
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02:43.25Kyahx|afkthe server im on is Illidan
02:43.46Kyahx|afk=( and Illidan blows
02:44.30Temoh lol
02:47.32mjchttp://www.deviantart.com/view/14080073/
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02:49.22Wobinaye mjc, that's just cool =)
02:49.31CIA-703tardmrr * r3644 10Detox/: Detox: Creating Project trunk.
02:56.21Kyahx|afkDetox?
02:58.30ckknighthttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/Svn:external
03:02.52CIA-703tardmrr * r3645 10Detox/: Detox: Commit of externals settings.
03:07.09TemDetox is a small I'm writing for myself
03:07.16Temfew reasons
03:07.30TemTo further familiarize myself with the Ace2 API
03:07.44Temto get a decursive-like system that doesn't make my eyes bleed
03:07.57ckknightcool name
03:08.05Temoh, I alsmost forgot the most important part
03:08.10Temfor shits
03:14.34Wobinman
03:14.39Wobinmost important reason ever
03:14.42Wobinshould have said that first =(
03:15.02Wobin"For shits? Then why question the man!?"
03:15.50Wobinckknight: hehe your externals are so nicely lined up in your example =)
03:18.29ckknighthehe
03:18.43TemWobin, I know right?
03:18.53Wobin=)
03:19.14GalkaAny high level Hunters in here?
03:20.24Wobin"This addon is awesome - great for the OCD in  all of us. I assume no Titan support? Odd that there's Fu but no Titan ... unless I missed something. "
03:20.27Wobinhehe
03:20.29WobinGalka: yes
03:20.42GalkaDo you use any tranq shot addons?
03:20.43WobinHow do I answer that question? =P
03:20.46GalkaSimpleTranqShot for example?
03:20.52WobinGalka: Ah, not quite that high =)
03:20.56Galka-_-
03:20.58WobinGalka: Might ask Tekk
03:21.05WobinHe's got a tranq timer if I recall
03:21.06GalkaTried
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03:24.54GalkaAnyone happen to have an older version of bartender?
03:24.59GalkaNOT the latest one on the SVN
03:25.00mjcsvn revert
03:25.23Galka"file list is empty"
03:25.46mjcyou have to specify a path and revision number
03:25.51mjcsvn help revert
03:26.09nullpuppyhmm.. who was having problems with bartender earlier with bars being outside of the screen?
03:27.18GalkaUsing Tortoise SVN
03:27.30GalkaDon't see anywhere to specify on the Revert popup
03:27.37GalkaActually I think he did upload Bartender to WoWI
03:27.54Galkalove the addon but I really dont want QuestTracker and Minimap features :/
03:28.39nullpuppyi just want bar4 to be visibile again :(
03:29.05Galka<PROTECTED>
03:29.12Galka<PROTECTED>
03:29.15nullpuppynope, it resets it off the screen
03:29.22GalkaHave you tried limiton?
03:29.26nullpuppydon't have the option
03:30.31GalkaUpgrade to the latest version
03:30.34Galkaits a new option
03:32.00kergothGalka, i dislike the map and questracker features from a correctness standpoint... dont like a bar addon going that far beyond its scope
03:32.02kergothheh
03:32.31GalkaSame
03:32.40GalkaI requested that he break it up like id's Chat suite
03:35.14GalkaIs it possible to just make a macro that detects if Tranq shot hits or misses than prints a string indicating it?
03:35.23GalkaWould like to rid myself of SimpleTranqShot
03:37.03mjcbigwigs should do that
03:37.50GalkaI don't follow.  BigWigs reports when a mob is enraged
03:38.03GalkaSimpleTranqShot reports if my shot hit or missed
03:39.43mjcit should report if it was tranqued, it would be a good idea at least
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03:41.58gngskif you use sct you could prolly set that up to show hit/miss
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03:42.46GalkaSCT would only tell ME that it hit or miss
03:42.54GalkaI want to tell a chatchannel that it hit or miss
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03:47.09GalkaSomehow my UI has increased by 6mb in size, and I have no idea how considering all i've done is update addons via SVN and introduce no new ones
03:48.28kergothif you're using miniblizzraid, probably got increased by that much due to it not working anymore
03:48.43GalkaActually...
03:48.45GalkaYes
03:48.47GalkaYou are right.
03:48.49GalkaThat's why :/
03:49.37ckknighthttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/How_to_Write_API_Documentation
03:52.49Wobinhm
03:53.02Wobincan you get more whitespace between the table borders and the text?
03:55.10Wobinor perhaps not as thick lines
03:56.03kergothand oUF explodes, despite not changing it since yesterday.... error trying to call AceLibrary, a table value
03:57.47Tekcuband my guild drags me to BWL and I don't get to play with Ace2... again
03:58.40Wobinhehe
03:58.59WobinTekcub, Galka's looking for you
03:59.06nullpuppyhehe
04:01.21kergothsigh, what the hell is causing this acelibrary error
04:02.50Tekcubuhm, acelibrary?
04:02.55Tekcub*hides*
04:03.29kergoththis worked flawlessly yesterday, no changes to oUF, just upgraded clique
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04:03.57kergothonly diff is the minor versions of acelibrary between the two
04:04.25kergothwhich implies a problem with the acelibrary upgrade process
04:04.39kergothyep, acelibrary error gone
04:04.41kergothaceoo error now
04:04.54kergothckknight: i think we need better unit testing of upgrades to acelibrary itself.
04:05.24kergothnow its saying Mixin.super is nil
04:05.26kergothjesus
04:07.41Tekcub"Clique: I am going to stab myself in the face with a ballpoint pen."
04:07.44Tekcubpoor clad
04:08.04Kaeltenkergoth: I'm not having any bugs and I have 3 or 4 ace2s running
04:08.13TekcubKael, a request!
04:08.18kergothwell, neither did i until today
04:08.24Kaeltentekcub ?
04:08.26kergothrunning the 0.2.0 release of clique with oUF from svn
04:08.30kergoth=boom
04:08.39TekcubA Ace Raid Addons sub-forum that we can divide oRA and BigWigs out into module topics
04:08.55Tekcubthose two threads are getting nasty
04:09.48KaeltenTekcub: what would be best?  I could create a subcat for the two addons, or just one subcat?
04:10.15Kaeltenkergoth hmm I'm running clique but not oUF
04:10.15Tekcubjust one forum should be fine
04:10.59WobinCould you move the PaintBall thread to the RaidAddon section, if it'll fit?
04:11.14Wobinunless it's just a discussion forum
04:11.27kergothKaelten, i also have ace2 as a seperate addon w/ its .toc
04:11.47kergothstill getting attempt to index field super: a nil value in aceoo-2.0.lua
04:11.49kergothline 761
04:11.51kergothhrm
04:11.55TekcubKael, after I get the seperate threads startod and the old thread edited, I'll want a lock on it :)
04:12.27Kaeltenkergoth any errors in the framexml log?
04:12.33KaeltenTekcub: created
04:12.42Kaeltenpaste links to threads that need to get moved
04:12.44mjcout-dkped on NS pants and head
04:12.46mjciopdasfopjkd
04:14.29kergothKaelten, ckknight: as it just broke
04:14.30kergother
04:14.33kergothKaelten, http://ace.pastebin.ca/75404
04:14.39kergothdamn multiple clipboards
04:14.43nullpuppykergoth: whats the name of the addon that does the whisper windows?
04:14.54kergothnullpuppy: chatr
04:14.57kergothnullpuppy: /chatr to configure
04:15.05Tekcubin a few kael, need to run to bank
04:15.09Tekcubthanks :)
04:15.31nullpuppygah, wtf, why isn't it here.. /me does a fresh co
04:16.56Kyahx|afkI was haveing trouble with Chatr earlier
04:17.02Kyahx|afkCauseing a game crash when I closed a whisper
04:17.53ckknightkergoth, what's just broke?
04:18.37kergothacelibrary freaks out about not being able to call a table when i have two minor versions of acelibrary in my tree, ouf and clique.. then aceoo-2.0 is erroring about Mixin.super being nil, no idea whats causing that one
04:18.39kergothmy wow has gone insane
04:18.58kergothno errors with just oUF
04:19.17CIA-703kaelten 07Alpha * r3646 10Ace2/Ace2.toc: fixed toc file reference
04:19.35kergothalso no errors with just clique
04:19.37kergothdoesnt bode well.
04:20.08KaeltenI can't seem to reproduce
04:20.25Kaeltenat leat not yet
04:20.31kergothclique 0.2.0 and svn oUF off the branch, errors immediately on login
04:20.58Kaeltenalthough I have to head to bed..  I have to be up extra early in the morning
04:21.22Kaeltenif you guys don't figureit out i'll dig into it more tommorow night.
04:21.37Kaeltenhate to leave on this note though
04:21.40Kaeltenarg, must sleep
04:21.43Kaeltenjob depends on it
04:21.47Kaeltengnight guys
04:21.56ckknightcya
04:22.01kergothnight kael
04:24.09kergothckknight: i overwrote oUF's ace2 bits with cliques, now no errors.  clearly upgrade problems in acelibrary & aceoo
04:24.12kergoth:(
04:24.20ckknightlooking into it no
04:24.21ckknightnow*
04:25.04kergoththanks
04:25.51ckknightfixed that.
04:25.55ckknight"my bad"
04:26.32CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3647 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - fixed AceLibrary upgrade bug.
04:26.58kergothdamnit, ctrl+rightclick isnt being intercepted by clique. oUF is stealing it regardless of the clique onclick hook, somehow
04:27.35ckknightit'd occur if oUF hooks it after Clique hooks it
04:29.14ckknightAceOO still has that bug, though...
04:29.22kergothoUF is clearly checking the mouse click for ctrl+rightclick before it calls the oUFOnClick that it has to facilitate clickcasting
04:29.24ckknightblasted horribly complicated structure
04:31.34kergothdagnabit, oUF doesnt check the return value of oUFOnClick... so there's no way for the hook function to fall back to oUF's default behavior
04:31.42kergoth~herring haste_
04:31.43purlACTION whacks haste_ on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred
04:36.15TainHoly tired Batman
04:36.36gngskBatman sleeps during the day
04:36.39Galkaholy 53 KiB/s increase batman -_-
04:36.55GalkaI want you back MiniBlizzRaid my dearest love!
04:37.07gngsk/mourn
04:39.23Tainerm you mean the version of MiniBlizzRaid posted tonight doesn't work?
04:42.19kergothdamnit, acehook hates me
04:42.55TainYeah well svn on Windows hates me.
04:43.38kergothAceHook-2.0.lua:147: attempt to index a nil value
04:43.38TainSomething keeps setting the read-only attribute on files when I check things out and it won't update.
04:43.39kergoth:(
04:43.43kergothwerid
04:44.48nullpuppyhrm
04:45.04nullpuppyitemdb is causing a window to come up and can't get rid of it ;(
04:47.22nullpuppywtf
04:47.29kergothargh!
04:47.29nullpuppycan't use the primary bar when i'm stealthed
04:47.33kergothclad|sleep, poke
04:48.26nullpuppy*sigh*
04:48.44kergotham i missing something, or should clique be optionally depending on all the unitframe addons it has plugins for?
04:48.51CIA-703wobin * r3648 10PaintBall/PaintBall.lua: PaintBall - Added in target by unitname search
04:52.33nullpuppy*sigh* i disabled clique and i'm able to use the bar again.. but now it doesn't change to the stealth bar
04:55.09kergothwhat the fuck is going on. goddamnit
04:56.08nullpuppymyBindings looks to be broken :(
04:58.11kergothyea, its a pain setting up keybindings without its groupings
04:58.34nullpuppyARG!
04:58.40nullpuppythis is pissing me off...
04:58.55nullpuppyfor some reason, in steatlth, i can't use my primary action bar
05:03.06TainWell.. when you go into stealth normally you're not using your primary action bar anymore, you're using BonusActionBar
05:03.32nullpuppythen something broke
05:03.35nullpuppygrr
05:04.30kergothprobably.  it has to handle that
05:04.33ckknightlol, I know the reason AceOO is fucking up.
05:04.45ckknighthot damn that's a complicated thingy
05:05.08kergoththat it is.  conceptually its clean, but its a tangled web
05:06.04ckknightit has to do with AceLibrary's updating madness
05:06.11ckknightbasically
05:06.13ckknight:
05:06.38ckknightfirst lib: local Mixin = { super = Class }; AceOO.Mixin = Mixin
05:06.59ckknightin the second lib, all the internal references were checked to remain constant to an outside viewer
05:07.14ckknightwhich means that the old Mixin's table reference is the same
05:07.32ckknightbut the new one (still at a local scope) is emptied
05:07.57ckknightin conclusion, table references = brainfuck
05:08.10ckknightsince it needs to remain consistent to an outside onlooker
05:08.19ckknightbut in doing so, it messes up the internals
05:10.48ckknightthe fix is to recheck the internal references on activate
05:11.20kergothi hate you, acehooks.
05:12.37ckknightlol, kergoth
05:13.50Wobingah
05:13.52WobinI hate this bug
05:14.01WobinIt makes all my menus invisible til I mouseover them
05:14.06Wobin(in Windows)
05:15.31kergothAceHook-2.0.lua:147: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value)
05:18.46ckknightyea, that's not supposed to happen, kergoth
05:18.48Tekcubstupid clad doesn't play a hunter aparently
05:18.58ckknightwhy would he?
05:19.07Tekcubhis Clique hunter example misses the one thing I use WD's ClickCasting for....
05:19.20Tekcubto trigger Feed-o-Matic
05:20.01WobinTekcub: http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a343/lesslikeyou3/Friends/zoo/zoo62806024copy.jpg
05:20.18Tekcubmmm. hairy bear ass
05:20.49kergoththis error confuses me.  it doesnt error at Hook() time, so those references should be fine
05:23.43kergothand why is oUF pulling in the AceHook mixin when it doesnt use it? :P
05:24.21Tekcubbecause it can?
05:24.37kergothah, it does, i just misgrepped
05:24.38kergothwhew
05:45.22ckknightlol
05:45.27ckknightthat was a freaky error
05:46.23ckknightbut I have learned this: if you have tables in locals which aren't explicitly referenced in the table or subtables of a library, you gotta make sure that their internal references are up to snuff.
05:47.39ckknightClassFactory.prototype wasn't changed during the upgrade because ClassFactory wasn't referenced by anything, thus was out of AceLibrary's reach. but Class's __call method still existed and referenced ClassFactory
05:49.50CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3649 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - now has activate function which updates internal references.
05:50.01kergothtraversing that maze gets confusing fast
05:50.32ckknightAceLibrary traverses fine, it's just that AceOO had ClassFactory in a local. if it were in the lib itself, there'd be no issue
05:51.13ckknightshould all be fixed now
05:52.09kergothyeah, thats the issue with using locals.  cant get to those references from outside. makes upgrades difficult
05:52.12kergothah well
05:55.18ckknightit's unlikely that 3rd party libs will have this issue
05:55.33ckknightit's just that AceOO is a tangled web
05:55.48ckknightwith references pointing all over the place
05:56.08ckknightstill, it works well enough
05:56.23ckknightyour error about .super won't show up anymore
05:56.30kergothi had to draw diagrams on paper to grasp it myself, and i designed the base of it
05:56.31kergothhehe
05:57.14ckknightyea
05:57.26ckknightit took me a while to actually figure it all out
05:57.27ckknightI got it now
05:57.32ckknightit's quite elegant in its own way
05:57.50ckknightI added a lot of little things since you rescinded
05:58.32kergothyeah i saw some of it, still havent reviewed it all
05:59.18kergoththe most confusing part, at first, and even occasionally later, is the whole factory thing, and how init() is handled
05:59.22ckknightyea
05:59.30kergoththough it gives a great deal of flexibility, more than most will ever need :)
05:59.30ckknightlike omg brainfuck
05:59.38ckknighthehe, yea
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06:00.16Amadeo:DD
06:00.22ckknighthey Amadeo
06:00.30WobinHappy? =)
06:00.51ckknightso happy you could commit... MURDER?
06:01.07WobinIf it weren't for you meddling kids...
06:01.08ckknightba bum bum...........
06:01.28Amadeohiyas
06:01.33ckknightit's not a werewolf, it's just a Bulgarian lady with a mustache!
06:01.45AmadeoWerewolves in...Bulgaria
06:02.51AmadeoSo my texture.mpq is corrupt
06:02.56kergothMikma: whenever you're awake, bartender has a bug in the shapeshifting/stealth handling. the name of the main bar option in bardb must have changed at some point and you didnt alter all the references.
06:02.57Amadeoany way I can fix that without a reinstall?
06:03.37ckknightAmadeo, yes.C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Repair.exe
06:03.44Amadeoreally? haha
06:04.41Amadeowhat's it actually do?
06:04.53ckknightchecks your mpqs and such, I think
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06:04.59Amadeowhat's stored in cache data?
06:05.02AmadeoI unchecked the first two
06:05.07ckknightjust run it. can't hurt
06:05.41ckknightalright, gonna start an OO tutorial
06:05.42Wobingnarf
06:05.50WobinI read that as "don't run, it can hurt"
06:06.12Wobin>.<
06:06.43ckknightI'll be taking the puppy dog/other animal route to explain OO
06:06.52ckknightlikely dogs and cats
06:06.55ckknightthey're easy
06:07.18kergothckknight, we need good terminology to explain the difference between blahclass:foo() and blahclass.prototype:foo()
06:07.52ckknightstatic fields and instance fields
06:08.18kergothhmm... instance is good.. static sounds too c/c++ish to me :)
06:08.23kergothcant think of anything better though
06:08.24ckknightblahclass:foo() is a static method
06:08.24ckknightblahclass.prototype:foo() is an instance method
06:08.57ckknightVB uses shared
06:08.57ckknight:-P
06:08.57ckknightstatic works
06:08.58ckknightdon't see anything wrong with it
06:09.33ckknightand people are used to it
06:11.02AmadeoYou're making Ace2 get here too fast, we're supposed to be at least a year off!
06:11.52Wobinblahclass:foo() is the cat, blahclass.prototype:foo() is the kitten =P
06:12.43ckknightno, Wobin
06:13.10ckknightblahclass:Foo() is the Aristotilean essence of a cat
06:13.23ckknightblahclass.prototype:Foo() is mr. fluffers
06:13.56ckknight;-)
06:15.00WobinI was going to say GeneticProfile of the cat, but that'll do =)
06:15.15ckknightyea, both work
06:15.17WobinOr rather. blahclass:foo() is Cat.
06:15.26Wobinprototype.foo is a cat =)
06:15.36ckknightyep
06:19.34Amadeohaha
06:19.37Amadeoit downloaded something
06:19.38Amadeoit said
06:19.44Amadeo"red leather bracer" or something like that
06:19.48Amadeofor the texture file
06:20.00AmadeoONE texture
06:20.29Amadeothanks ckknight :)
06:20.41ckknight:-)
06:24.38Amadeosleepy time
06:24.40Amadeonight :D
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06:32.01ckknightanyone know how I can have collapsable sections in the wiki?
06:32.26sedatedChipmunkyou have to sacrifice Mr. Fluffers to the Wikilords
06:32.46ckknightbut Mr. Fluffers was my best friend...
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06:33.01sedatedChipmunkit's ok, you can generate mr. fluffers in a while loop
06:33.22sedatedChipmunkyou won't miss him!
06:34.41ckknightcrap
06:34.49ckknightwhat's a good example of a static method?
06:34.53sedatedChipmunkbesides, you'd only be sacrificing a pointer to the real mr. fluffers anyway
06:35.47ckknightI can't think of one
06:37.04sedatedChipmunki can, but it doesn't make sense in LUA =P
06:37.43ckknighthrm
06:37.50ckknightwell, what is it anyway?
06:37.55sedatedChipmunkexists
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06:37.58gngskis it possible to change the color of the dots on your minimap based on raid class color?
06:38.06sedatedChipmunkstatic bool exists
06:39.11sedatedChipmunkhm
06:39.45ckknighthrm
06:39.50sedatedChipmunkhashing
06:39.51ckknightthat'd probably work
06:39.53gngskI see a few mods that do it for the worldmap, but nothing for the minimap
06:39.57ckknightokay, what're two good names for cats
06:40.02sedatedChipmunkhashing would be better
06:40.16MoonWolfI don' t think you can influence the minimap in anyway but overlaying it.
06:40.20sedatedChipmunkwell
06:40.33sedatedChipmunkharder to apply hashing to a cat =)
06:40.38gngskk, thx moon
06:41.00kergothwoa, wowhead doesnt just have a talent calc now eh?
06:41.14sedatedChipmunkMacavity and Mr. Mistoffelees =D
06:41.51ckknighttoo late, they're already regenald and fluffers
06:41.58sedatedChipmunkespecially good candidates for 'exists'
06:42.05ckknightreginald*
06:42.16sedatedChipmunkif you understand the reference
06:42.54MoonWolfyou could call the checking function schroedinger and the cat cat
06:43.03MoonWolfor would that be to obvious ?
06:43.19sedatedChipmunkdoesn't make sense
06:43.24sedatedChipmunkbecause it's boolean
06:43.46ckknightit'd return nil unless you check
06:43.50ckknight:-P
06:43.53sedatedChipmunkha
06:48.09ckknighthttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceOO-2.0_Tutorial
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06:48.26ckknightI'm not done, but what do you think so far?
06:50.20sedatedChipmunkI think I'm sleeping
06:58.05MoonWolfStop sleeping damnit!
06:58.21sedatedChipmunkscrew you; I'll sleep if I want!
06:58.47sedatedChipmunker, I mean 'zzzzz'
06:59.34MoonWolfWeirdest thing ever. someone on msn tells me his internet is down.
06:59.38MoonWolfon msn!
06:59.43MoonWolffrom his own home.
07:00.53sedatedChipmunkmsn isn't teh internet, duh
07:01.06sedatedChipmunkinternet explorer is teh internet
07:01.16Elkanoanyone knows if Clique works with deDE?
07:06.58ckknighthope no one gets offended by having a Pig class and having an instance named bacon
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07:11.25MoonWolfeeeuh bacon that can oink ?
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08:05.32ckknighthey zheele
08:06.30zheeleHey
08:06.34MoonWolfZinrokh should have a 0.01% chance to kill everybody in the current zone.
08:06.43zheeleI just bought myself a house! :)
08:06.47MoonWolfyou call it a destroyer of worlds for a reason.
08:06.52MoonWolfzheele, wow.
08:08.42zheeleI know. Means I won't have time to code and play for a while :(
08:09.41ckknightcongrats, zheele
08:09.55ckknightwith mortgage, right?
08:10.34Wobinzheele: Wow =) Congratulations! Is it a nice place?
08:10.35MoonWolfthat or i want to be very close friend with zheele right now so i can mooch of his money
08:11.56ckknightshoot for a high ROI
08:11.58ckknight:-P
08:15.09MoonWolfblizzard had a great idea
08:15.18MoonWolfyou wont be able to trade in cross realm bg' s
08:15.26MoonWolf\o/
08:15.33ckknightah
08:15.34MoonWolfi was worried that would cause a problem.
08:16.45ckknightwhen will cross ream bgs be?
08:19.33ckknightrealm*
08:20.39MoonWolf2.23
08:20.39MoonWolf1.12
08:20.40MoonWolfwrong row :o
08:20.40ckknight1.12?
08:20.40ckknightah
08:20.40ckknightokay
08:20.40ckknightcool
08:20.40ckknighthttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceOO-2.0_Tutorial
08:20.40MoonWolfeurope had servers moved in preparation for it.
08:21.02zheeleIt's a nice place yea. :) And no. You can't mooch my money since I'm flat broke now and in debt for the rest of my sorry life. :P
08:21.15MoonWolfdamnit
08:21.29ckknightokay
08:21.38ckknightanyone mind reading the AceOO tutorial?
08:24.26WobinHey ckknight,
08:24.27MoonWolfi did
08:24.35WobinWith TabletLib, we get: local category = tablet:AddCategory()
08:24.55Wobinis there any way ...
08:24.56Wobin=\
08:24.59MoonWolfhow am i supposed to give feedback to him how ?
08:25.09WobinCome back ckknight! All is forgiven!
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08:26.44Wobinwb =)
08:26.52Wobinanyway =P
08:27.13Wobinis there any way, with the return from AddCategory, that I can use it as a parent for a dewdrop?
08:27.58MoonWolfckknight, i think the aceoo tutorial is pretty good, but no matter how good you make it. some people are going to be pretty confused at certain concepts
08:28.11ckknightdewdrop uses categories?
08:28.23ckknightthis is new.
08:28.36ckknightMoonWolf, yea, I know
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08:29.39MoonWolfbtw, if you do a print on object it calls tostring ? you might want to explictly tell people this instead of letting them figure it out by looking at the examples.
08:30.06ckknightprint also doesn't exist in wow.
08:30.27MoonWolfhmmm
08:30.30MoonWolfgood point.
08:31.43Wobinckknight: I'm trying to branch a menu off a TabletLib tablet.
08:32.01ckknightah, okay
08:32.28ckknightyea, you can't really do that
08:32.39WobinCan I just use the implicit return from AddCategory, or is there another reference I can use?
08:32.49Wobin(as the parent for the dewdrop registration)
08:33.20ckknightyou can't
08:33.33Wobinhm =(
08:33.41ckknightjust use the standard right-click menu
08:34.04WobinThere's a standard rightclick menu?
08:34.33ckknightyes
08:34.53ckknightyou using FuBar or just TabletLib straight-up?
08:35.01WobinTabletLib straightup
08:35.13ckknightyea, it's in the registration
08:35.17ckknightmenu argument
08:35.52Wobinhm, aha
08:36.19Wobinor rather, I'm using FuPlugin's tablet
08:37.12ckknightokay, so not TabletLib straight-up
08:37.22ckknightit uses the MenuSettings thing, then
08:37.57Wobinaha, brilliant
08:37.59WobinThank you =)
08:42.09phyber(off topic).  any of you guys played the new Mario game on the DS yet?
08:44.45ckknightnah
08:44.58ckknightI can't play handhelds
08:45.10ckknightplus, I'm too frugal
08:46.41ckknightI do want to get a Wii, though
08:48.32phyberthis new one looks interesting.  I just want to know if they make you do anything retarded with the touch screen.
08:48.48phyberfor example, using it as an analog controller in Mario 64 DS.  That was a terrible idea.
08:48.56phybertotally destroyed the game :|
08:51.19ckknighthrm
08:53.51Wobinhm, how does AceOO deal with lua's sorting like with the metatable __lt()?
08:54.25WobinOr do we still have to setup the metatable functions?
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08:55.34WobinHow does AceOO deal with lua's sorting like with the metatable __lt()?
08:55.35WobinOr do we still have to setup the metatable functions?
08:58.04ckknightWobin, :CompareTo(x), :IsLessThan(x), :IsLessThanOrEquals(x)
08:58.37ckknight:-)
08:59.07Wobinif I use a table.sort(listofAceOOclasses) and set the IsLessThan(x) function on the class, it'll be all handydoody, eh?
08:59.16ckknightyep.
08:59.23Wobinfantastic
08:59.23ckknightinstances, not classes.
08:59.26Wobinaye
08:59.29Wobinwell
08:59.34Wobinthe function will be in the class
08:59.41WobinlistofAceOOInstances =)
08:59.53ckknightfunction will be on the instance, not the class
09:00.26ckknightToString, Equals, CompareTo, IsLessThan, IsLessThanOrEquals, Add, Subtract, Multiply, Divide, Exponent, UnaryNegation, Concatenate
09:00.33ckknightthat's all the methods
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09:02.33ckknightthey convert to metamethods
09:02.35ckknightall happily
09:02.48ckknightso Number(1) + Number(2) == Number(3)
09:03.00ckknightassuming Number is a class with those methods
09:08.19Wobinhm
09:08.32WobinYou may want to put in more detail about the prototype
09:09.04Wobinah, hm
09:09.19ckknightlike what?
09:10.12WobinOr at least indicate that 'prototype' is 'instance method'
09:10.15CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3650 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - fixed comparison metamethods
09:10.35WobinThere's not an implicit link in the documentation, just implied from the examples
09:10.39CIA-703ammo * r3651 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Anubrekhan.lua:
09:10.39CIA-7BigWigs (Anub'Rekhan):
09:10.39CIA-7* Attempt at better timers. Silly fight.
09:10.51WobinAt least for the words themselves =)
09:13.02ckknightadded that bit, Wobin
09:13.08WobinCool =)
09:13.43Kebinusanammo, the twin emps enrage timer still seems bjorked
09:13.48WobinOkay, now we need someone who knows even less about OO than me to read it =)
09:13.51Wobinand see if they follow
09:14.01WobinAs it all reads fairly clearly to me
09:14.10Wobin(and makes me want to redo PK already =P)
09:14.33Wobincause <3 static methods
09:14.54phyberI know zero!  what am I reading? :p
09:15.08Wobinhttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceOO-2.0_Tutorial
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09:22.07[Ammo]Kebinusan: in what way?
09:22.18[Ammo]just borked isn't giving enough info ;)
09:23.55CIA-703ammo * r3652 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Anubrekhan.lua:
09:23.55CIA-7BigWigs (Anub'Rekhan):
09:23.55CIA-7* Added better wipe detection.
09:26.20ckknighthttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceOO-2.0_Tutorial#Metamethods
09:36.07Kebinusanoh sorry pvp
09:36.17Kebinusanumm the enrage bar is not resetting on a wipe
09:36.34[Ammo]ah hmm
09:36.40[Ammo]guess the wipe detection is not perfect yet :)
09:37.04Kebinusantried telling my guildies 'lets just not wipe then'
09:37.11Kebinusanbut sadly, they didnt think it was funnyh
09:37.46[Ammo]I'm thinking of a manual disable/enable toggle to the fumenu
09:38.00[Ammo]so you can just disable the modules that are running from the menu
09:38.13[Ammo]it's highly annoying that wipe detect doesn't work correctly
09:39.43Kebinusanyeah
09:40.13Kebinusanproblem is there is no event to just cancel any bars or things that are scheduled
09:40.27Kebinusanotherwise you could just have a global reset function instead of one for each boss mod
09:40.45[Ammo]well some modules have vars that need resetting on disable
09:40.53KebinusanBigWigsCancelEverythingPleaseThnx
09:41.16Kebinusanyeah but they should be reset when the module is enabled right?
09:41.41[Ammo]I'm talkinga bout schedules as well
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09:42.12[Ammo]but an event like: BIGWIGS_CANCEL_ALL would be good
09:46.21Kebinusanyeah
09:46.23Kebinusantrue enough
09:47.31KebinusanI spec'd conflag this week because we decided to try learning twin emps with a caster tank
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09:48.53ckknightwoot
09:49.21ckknightthrough my master powers of efficiency, classes now take up one less table per
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09:51.14ckknighte.g. they all share the same metatable instead of one per class
09:53.40MoonWolfwarlocks are actually pretty good tanks
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09:55.02Kebinusanyeah it makes the fight alot more exiciting than battleshout tanking warriors
09:56.06[Ammo]I'd rather keep it controlled :)
09:56.09[Ammo]hence we use the warriors
09:56.25[Ammo]I'm a control freak I guess
09:56.43KebinusanI dunno you get alot more control with a caster tank I think
09:56.51[Ammo]naah
09:56.53Kebinusanno worrying about what happens if a tank dies
09:56.55[Ammo]we only damage the melee one
09:57.07[Ammo]and 1 or 2 bolts per teleport on the caster
09:57.15[Ammo]works fine for us :)
09:57.15Kebinusanwe'll see how it goes next week
09:57.23Kebinusanyeah thats what we've done
09:57.37Kebinusanjust trying to prevent casters from sitting around with full mana pools for 15 minutes
09:57.39[Ammo]I have little faith in some of my raidmembers
09:57.58[Ammo]last night on Anub'Rekhan the same 3 people kept dying
09:58.03MoonWolfammo, " casual"  aside
09:58.03Kebinusanheh
09:58.03[Ammo]over and over and over
09:58.09[Ammo]:)
09:58.09MoonWolfsometimes you have to kick people in the head.
09:58.15[Ammo]yeah
09:58.20Kebinusanboot to the head
10:00.30Kebinusanhmm Xraidstatus is pretty spiffy
10:02.59haste_morning
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10:04.40haste_You don't have to be conflag to tank the caster on Twin Emps tho!
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10:06.25Kebinusanyeah
10:06.28ckknightTuplad, connection issues?
10:06.36Kebinusanit was an excuse
10:06.45Kebinusanbut its alot easier with 10% more crit on searing pain
10:08.45Tupladnope
10:08.51MoonWolfdoes demonology tanking work out on twin emps ?
10:09.51haste_it does
10:10.08NeronixI'd imagine soul link + affliction up to fel concentration spec would be perfect
10:10.11Neronixjust drain tank ^^
10:10.20Neronixbtw, Morning
10:10.28haste_not enough aggro I would guess
10:10.54Neronixmaybe
10:10.54Kebinusanyeah you could probably do it with shadowbolt spam too
10:11.05Neronixtry throwing a searing pain in between drains?
10:11.15KebinusanI wanted to pick up demonic embrace and so I had to respec anyway
10:11.22Neronixand with all the +damage gear you'll have by AQ, you'd probably end up with a net gain of health O.o
10:11.34Kebinusanbesides the damage per mana efficiency on searing pain is kinda good with the 10% crit talent
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10:11.59[Ammo]I'm doing emps with Soul Link'd Feldog
10:12.02[Ammo]and spam searing pain
10:12.13[Ammo]open with deathcoil, shadowburn, and then just pain em
10:12.21Kebinusanhave problems with your dog getting hit by blizzard or anything?
10:12.30[Ammo]just park him somwhere out of range :)
10:13.25Neronixso with +600 damage, it'd be 355 + (0.5 * 600) = 655 dmg + 655 healed every 5 secs
10:13.38NeronixSounds godly :P
10:13.56FryGuydoesn't +damage work poorly on drain life?
10:14.16Neronixiirc, it's modifier is 50%
10:14.43Neronixbecause it affects both the damage done and the amount you heal
10:14.52haste_[Ammo], I believe our warlock uses immmolate -> Death coil to get aggro :p
10:15.02[Ammo]immolate is too slow
10:15.06[Ammo]emperor can run away
10:15.11[Ammo]but that's on the pull
10:15.27Kebinusanyou can get within 36 yards of him
10:15.45Kebinusanon the opener we just have the caster pull with soulfire or whatever, then the warrior can just get aggro with bloodrage or something
10:16.35Kebinusanso you dedicate a healer to your dog on the caster mob?
10:16.47[Ammo]yeah
10:16.52Mikmakergoth: thanks, fixing it now
10:17.27haste_http://infected.nu/upload/twinemp.wmv << he uses immolate + death coil :p
10:17.43NeronixHow much do the emps hit for?
10:17.47Kebinusanalot
10:18.00Mikmalike, many
10:18.31Neronixnumbers?
10:19.07Mikma0 to 100000
10:19.10haste_4k5 unbalancing strikes on MTs I think
10:19.30Mikmacan't login to WoW :(
10:19.49NeronixAnd for the warlock tank?
10:20.24haste_no idea at all
10:20.38haste_I can check actually :p
10:20.47haste_since I have a video of ours with warlock PoV
10:21.41haste_I can see everything from resist to 3k :p
10:21.56NeronixI'll round it up to 4kish them
10:21.57Neronix*then
10:22.46Wobinany oRA people here?
10:22.48Neronix* 0.7 for soul link --> 2800
10:23.15Neronix- 100 for a +600dmg siphon tick --> 2700
10:23.45Neronix-400 for a half-done drain -- > 2300
10:23.57NeronixConclusion: Drain tanking's finally got a use in raids :P
10:23.57haste_it's no problem healing the warlock
10:24.02haste_it's the warrior that is the problem
10:24.16haste_the warrior can take 9k damage pretty instant
10:24.29NeronixOw :<
10:24.44haste_crushing + unbalancing strike = ouch
10:24.56NeronixWell, my stuff was all theorycraft :P I've nto set foot in a raid instance yet
10:26.24Kebinusan100 siphon ticks are a bit off
10:27.06Kebinusanplus theres exploding bugs and blizzards so you cant really sit still a bunch
10:27.15WobinAnyone know the format of the TankTables in oRA and CT?
10:27.30WobinAre they just [1]  = MrTank [2] = MrsTank ?
10:27.40Neronixsiphon rank 4 is 450 over 30 seconds, + dmg adds to the total dmg of a dot, siphon ticks 10 times --> 1050 over 30 sec --> 105 per tick
10:27.53Neronixs/+ dmg/+ 600dmg/
10:28.51NeronixBut then again, that was all proved useless
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10:29.03ShyvaYow
10:29.16NeronixHai
10:29.24ShyvaHow are you? :)
10:29.35Neronixexhausted, thanks :P
10:29.36Neronixand you?
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10:29.55Shyvahaha, same.. school :(
10:29.59Mikmaoh fuck i messed my svn up again
10:30.01Mikmaoh joy
10:30.59gngskwhat'd you do?
10:31.09Mikmadeleted the .svn folder in Bartender
10:31.13Mikma\o/
10:31.15gngskd'oh
10:31.16MoonWolfah
10:31.18Mikmanot the smartest thing to do
10:31.19MoonWolfnothing major then
10:31.24MoonWolfctrl-z
10:31.35Mikmactrl-z = ?
10:31.41gngskundo
10:31.47Mikmain what os? :)
10:31.51gngskwindoze
10:32.08Mikmaolé! i have osx (unix), trust me it's gone ;)
10:32.26Shyvawindows > osx ;p
10:32.27NeronixStill easy
10:32.27ckknightTrash can?
10:32.34Neronixcheckout + copy/paste modified files
10:32.38ckknightShyva, they both equally suck.
10:32.46phybertime to unmount the device and use dd to recover the data from the disk!
10:32.52MikmaNeronix: yeah but now i need to do it on command prompt
10:32.56phyberyou do know the exact part of the drive it was on, right? :p
10:33.02Mikmaand i'm not good at that since i have been using GUI
10:33.07ShyvaHehe, and what do you use ckk? ;p
10:33.14ckknightShyva, Windows
10:33.16Shyva^^
10:33.23ckknightit still sucks.
10:33.24Neronixsvn co http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/Bartender
10:33.28Neronix*badoom tisch*
10:33.33Shyvayea, but the rest sucks more imo :)
10:34.06MikmaNeronix: thanks mate :) putting that to .txt
10:34.14Neronixnp
10:35.19Mikmagah
10:35.28Mikmablah blah already exists
10:35.41Kebinusansiphon only gets a 50% bonus because half is applied to the damage and half to the heal
10:35.43Neronixmove the existing files elsewhere
10:35.55Mikmai tried to commit the files to svn
10:35.57CIA-703facboy * r3653 10Timex/ (Core/TimexCore.lua Timex.toc): TimexTimex: R23.1 - fixed a bug where runCount could be too large sometimes.
10:36.02NeronixKebinusan: I see. I thought only drain got a 50% modifier
10:36.09Kebinusansadly nope
10:36.24gngskhmm
10:36.31Kebinusanstill ~80dmg
10:36.37gngskbreweries in germany are reportedly running out of beer?
10:36.55gngskgg world cup!
10:37.20Mikmaoh well
10:37.33Mikmai made a backup of the files, used svn del . --force
10:37.45Mikmathen i copied the backups back into Bartender and i'll try again
10:40.03Mikmagod damn...
10:40.21MikmaFile /root/trunk/Bartender/Bartender.lua already exists
10:40.53Neronixcommit
10:40.59Neronixnot import
10:41.19Mikmai did try to commit with gui
10:42.15NeronixWeird...
10:42.24Neronixdon't understand why commit would spit that error out
10:42.52Mikmame neither and can't remember how i fixed it earliar
10:44.38CIA-703mikma * r3654 10Bartender/ (7 files): Blah, let's do this by the hard way then. Be gone!
10:44.44Mikma:D
10:45.16Mikma"this place is clean now"
10:45.22Mikmamehehehe.. go ace ventura
10:47.51CIA-703mikma * r3655 10Bartender/ (7 files): Bartender: Bugfix for Shapeshift Bar
10:47.54Mikmathere ;)
10:48.17CIA-703otravi * r3656 10oRA/oRA_CoreLocals.lua: oRA - Updated to the latest CTRA version.
10:48.22Mikmai did it alot smarter this time hehe, it takes the files from different place in my HDD this time
10:48.32Mikmaby that way i shouldn't mess up
10:49.09Mikmahaste_: you should make a invisible CTRA version-broadcast to oRA ;D
10:49.35haste_a what?
10:49.41Mikmaif someone who is leader/officer announces channel, oRA announces newest version for ctra too and everyone using it gets the same version ;)
10:50.09Mikmabut that would of course require the leader/officer always to have the newest version hehe
10:50.11haste_it would be a pain in the ass to make :p
10:50.34Mikmabut i thought you like it hardcore
10:50.40[Ammo]and not needed imho :)
10:50.46[Ammo]btw haste the maintanks worked perfect again
10:50.50[Ammo]thanks for the revert once more :)
10:51.38Mikmahmmmm i just got an idea hehe
10:51.50Mikmamaybe i'll try to make symbolic links of the Bartender files
10:51.53Mikmalet's see
10:52.34haste_[Ammo], I'll upload it to WoWI then ;)
10:54.16MoonWolfhaste, clique casting support, does it work out of the box  ?
10:54.31hasteMoonWolf, I have no idea
10:54.39MoonWolfk
10:54.39hasteI don't like click-cast addons :p
10:54.51hastethey usually select rank and all that - makes my job as a healer a little to easy
10:54.51MoonWolfill check when i get home
10:55.01MoonWolfclique has no rank selection
10:56.21Mikmaclique = LUV!
10:57.39MoonWolfthe fact that you can use lua in it sounds very good.
10:58.04Mikmaoh damn well my idea of symbolic links don't work for SVN
10:58.11Mikmamaybe i'll try to link them in the other way then
10:58.17Mikmahave the symbolic links in wow
10:58.57hasteit doesn't work well with Cedega / Wine
11:01.37Mikmahehe, in osx it seems to work :D
11:04.23Mikmacool, even zipping works hehe. problem solved
11:04.56hastehmm, my cedega version is kind of out dated :p
11:05.12hasteI can't even use the update tool to update
11:06.22CIA-703ammo * r3657 10BigWigs/Core.lua:
11:06.23CIA-7BigWigs:
11:06.23CIA-7* Restored registering of the ENABLEMODULE sync. It got lost somehow.
11:10.15CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3658 10Ace2/ (AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua):
11:10.15CIA-7AceOO - one metatable for all classes now.
11:10.15CIA-7Class:new(...) now works like Class(...)
11:14.58Mikmayay! i'm remaking Bartender slashcommands now :) removing like 50% of them
11:15.07[Ammo]make bartender Ace2 kk
11:15.15Mikmalike /bar lock - will toggle lock on/off
11:15.20Mikma[Ammo]: no skill, can't do it.
11:16.15NeronixIt's easy, check out the docs
11:16.55[Ammo]it's ubereasy
11:17.06Mikmawhy don't you do it then :P
11:17.15Mikmai could need help with it anyway hehe
11:17.18ckknightmikma, the docs are easy to follow
11:17.29[Ammo]but if I do it, you will never learn
11:17.42Mikmabut, what would be the point on making it ace2?
11:18.11ckknightAce2 is coded better
11:18.12ckknightit's easier
11:18.16ckknightyou have more control
11:18.20ckknightno dependencies
11:18.20[Ammo]it's easy on the slashcommands etc
11:19.53ckknightbetter OO
11:20.25Mikmawhat's that OO then
11:20.49[Ammo]your bartender is polluting the global namespace with lots of functions etc :)
11:20.52[Ammo]which is not needed
11:21.08ckknightew.
11:21.12ckknightglobals are icky.
11:21.14Mikmayeah i'm planning on changing that soon :)
11:21.22[Ammo]well when you change that, change to ace2
11:21.28[Ammo]you will be a happy little camper
11:21.34Mikmagah!
11:21.39ckknightwe'll release beta tomorrow or the next day
11:21.41Mikmagod damn you :)
11:21.42ckknightlikely.
11:24.44Mikmawhile i try to make the funtions local i also try to remove the .xml
11:28.50NeronixOk, when I find out who the wankers on my server are that forgot to double the price of leathers after the stack changes, I'll shove watermelons in their eyes
11:28.53NeronixTHEIR EYES!!
11:29.28[Ammo]rofl
11:29.50NeronixHow the fuck do I expect to make money from skinning now? -_-
11:30.01Neronixwhen shit's selling for half the price it should
11:30.13NeronixOk, plan B. Buy everything and resell
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11:33.37ckknight_Mikma, this is a perfect opportunity for a "noob" such as yourself to read my documentation and see where you get confused
11:35.34Neronix620 light leather, and it's going on for the proper price >.>
11:35.56Mikmackknight_: well i can try just for your pleasure but i can't promise when i'll do it
11:36.12ckknight_okay
11:37.57ckknight_likely if you read it, you'll want to use it
11:37.58ckknight_:-P
11:37.59ckknight_hehe
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11:39.57Mikmayeah propably if i understand even half of the monkeythings :D
11:40.15ckknight_the monkeys get the point across
11:40.21ckknight_we can learn from them
11:40.41ckknight_I've written an AceLibrary and an AceOO tutorial, with assorted animals
11:40.47CIA-703shyva * r3659 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Faerlina.lua:
11:40.47CIA-7BigWigs:
11:40.47CIA-7- Faerlina: Added silence detection. It will also remake a enrage timer with the correct time, if neccecary.
11:40.52ckknight_how do I do an AceAddon tutorial?
11:40.56Mikmayeah i checked them through with my gf looking them too
11:41.00Mikmathey were funny
11:41.06ckknight_alright
11:41.09ckknight_hehe
11:41.11ckknight_poo.
11:42.09phyberNeronix: I think I know what's happening there.  it seems simple enough.
11:42.27phyber(AceOO thing)
11:43.08WobinIf you can get someone who professes not to understand OO to at least not be confused by the doc, you've done well =)
11:43.18ckknight_yea
11:44.13CIA-703ammo * r3660 10BigWigs/Naxxramas/Anubrekhan.lua:
11:44.13CIA-7BigWigs (AnubRekhan):
11:44.14CIA-7* No wipe detection needed, event will restart properly anyway.
11:44.16ckknight_it has a lot of confusing things in it
11:44.32ckknight_holy hell, we're already at 3660
11:44.45MoonWolfi think it start to get confusing at interfaces static methods and inherentence
11:44.52MoonWolfthe rest is easy enough
11:44.56ckknight_yea...
11:45.11ckknight_what can I change, though?
11:45.22MoonWolfno clue
11:46.05ckknight_thus the connundrum
11:47.31gngskbleh, golden pearls are a bitch to farm
11:47.57Kebinusanyeah
11:48.03Kebinusanwee killing naga for hours
11:48.18gngski go back and forth between fishing and killing naga
11:48.35Kebinusanat least at the right time with fishing you can get lots of eels
11:48.35[Ammo]the naga's north of booty bay have a sweet droprate (or are bugged)
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11:48.42[Ammo]at least they used to be in 1.10
11:48.46[Ammo]got 3 pearls in an hour there
11:48.54[Ammo]and guildmate got 2 in 30 mins
11:49.14gngskhmm
11:49.50gngskI might just break down and buy the 3 more I need
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11:52.33CIA-703mikma * r3661 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: Simple slashcommands! Joy!
11:53.08Mikmano more /bar showbag etc, /bar bag will toggle them :)
11:54.30Mikmalooooool cats are stupid, gf bought them "catnip pillows"
11:54.48Mikmahaven't seen them happier in a while hehe
11:54.57phyberO_o
11:54.58phyberpics
11:55.19phyberit's almost caturday, so post some fucking cats! :p
11:55.20Mikmahmm that takes too long to put them on comp :P
11:56.02Mikmabut every grown up cat just loooooves catnip :D
11:56.13Mikmait's some sort of lovepotion for them or something
11:58.31Mikmait's really funny how those names and places are pronounced in LOTR
11:58.52ckknightwhat is catnip anyway?
11:59.02FryGuyit's happy juice for cats
11:59.04FryGuyer
11:59.11Mikmahttp://science.howstuffworks.com/question303.htm
11:59.12FryGuymakes them high or something :/
11:59.18MikmaFryGuy: bingo :D
11:59.46gngsklol
11:59.46phyberhttp://www.wesh.com/news/9447058/detail.html
11:59.49gngskI was just about to post that link
12:00.01MikmaGiven to the right cat, catnip can cause an amazing reaction! The cat will rub it, roll over it, kick at it, and generally go nuts for several minutes. Then the cat will lose interest and walk away. Two hours later, the cat may come back and have exactly the same response.
12:00.08Mikmalol that's so true in this case
12:00.42ckknighthrm
12:00.44ckknightokay
12:03.01ckknightlol, who would make a bong out of a dead guy's head?
12:03.05Mikmamy gf asked does catnip work in barrens too
12:03.28gngskgood question ck
12:03.49ckknightoh well
12:04.03ckknightmy main beef is health issues
12:04.28ckknightnot the whole desecration of corpses thing
12:04.32Kebinusanas long as you properly boil the skull, you should be fine
12:04.39Industrialhttp://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5765/wowscrnshot0630060419519nd.jpg
12:04.44ckknightyea, it'd seem so
12:04.45Neronixckknight: Is it safe to make the addon object local now, as long as you don't want anything else interacting with it?
12:04.54MikmaA psychiatrist has diagnosed Buckalew with mental health issues.
12:05.10MikmaIndustrial: gg
12:05.11ckknightyea, you could. I don't see why, though
12:05.15IndustrialMikma: lD
12:05.15ckknight:-P
12:05.17Industrial;D*
12:05.42Neronixckknight: Was just wondering. I just realised I did it by accident in my random sutff mod
12:05.50Kebinusaneven my bank mules have mules now
12:05.57ckknightyea, it's no big deal at all
12:06.14ckknightonly place you couldn't is with core addons like KCI or FuBar
12:06.17MoonWolfKebinusan, lol.
12:06.33MikmaIndustrial: u
12:06.36Mikmadas :D
12:06.42KebinusanI have a banker with like four 16 slotters full of elemental water... I think maybe I can stop stacking it now
12:06.43MoonWolfi am close to needing a second mule though
12:06.49MikmaIndustrial: update your itemdb, ain't there 1.0i
12:06.56MoonWolfa second mule is simply cheaper then a 25 gold bankslot.
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12:07.05MikmaGalka_: hello
12:07.45MoonWolfkebunisan, what are you going to do, throw all the elemenatl water on the burning crusade an hope it goes out ?
12:08.01gngskgreater frost protection potions
12:08.40Neronixlol MoonWolf
12:09.37Kebinusanhahah
12:09.49Kebinusanwell ... yeah greater frost pots forever
12:10.22CIA-703shyva * r3662 10BigWigs/BWL/Chromaggus.lua:
12:10.22CIA-7BigWigs:
12:10.22CIA-7Chromaggus: The breaths will now use the sync feature.
12:10.46gngskplzzz, make twin teleport use sync!
12:10.51Shyvait does
12:10.54[Ammo]they do
12:10.59gngskhrmm
12:11.00Mikmaheadshot!
12:11.04Shyva:)
12:11.21IndustrialBOOM HADSHOT
12:11.22gngsksomeone else needs to be using BW?
12:11.27[Ammo]ofoucrse
12:11.27Industrialheadshot, even
12:11.38[Ammo]can't smell teleports from afar :p
12:11.39gngskk, that must be why it wasn't working :p
12:12.21Kebinusanwtb  /bw versioncheck
12:12.37KebinusanI hate having to trust tanks to be running the right version ;-)
12:12.53Mikmacatnip owns again
12:13.09gngskwtb humanip
12:13.31Kebinusanits called crack
12:13.41Industrialnoes, weed
12:13.49ckknightI don't like cocaine
12:13.51mjcheh
12:13.57ckknightI just like the way it smells
12:14.05Mikmaso you sniff it?
12:14.29ckknightthanks for catching such an obvious joke, Mikma
12:14.57Mikmajoke? where? xD
12:15.46ckknight...
12:16.24mjcBigWigs_RaidWarn needs to check if you're promoted. let me produce a patch >_>
12:17.04Shyvawhy should it check that? if you're not promoted it will just do nothing? or will it return errors?
12:17.13Icerothwhat's with the promote thing anyway? why can't anyone who is interested in what other people are running check it?
12:17.17mjcit spams "you are not the party  leader" in chat
12:17.28Shyvaah, ok mjc :)
12:17.36mjcyou can't /rw without benig promoted at least
12:18.05Icerothversion check doesn't need /rw i think?)
12:18.21mjcI didn't say it did
12:18.32Icerothi mean, is there a reason for that or is it just something that came from ctra?
12:19.33mjccame from ctra
12:19.45mjcdidn't want people spamming ctra chan I suppose
12:19.55[Ammo]mjc what?
12:20.03[Ammo]bigwigs_raidwarn does not need promoted checks
12:20.04mjcon line 77 of BigWigs_RaidWarn.lua, addif( not IsRaidLeader() or (not IsRaidOfficer()) ) then return end
12:20.10mjcI'll test it when I get home
12:20.20[Ammo]it just sends to the raidwarning channel
12:20.29[Ammo]which you can only do as a raidleader / raidofficer
12:20.32mjcyes
12:20.46mjcif you aren't either, it spits out "You are not the party leader."
12:20.50mjc(blizz)
12:20.54[Ammo]so?
12:20.59[Ammo]disable broadcasting then :p
12:21.02mjcmakes it hard to read /raid
12:21.15[Ammo]but ok, I'll add the check :)
12:21.25mjc:p
12:21.44mjctest it first, I can't launch wow right now... gotta run
12:22.22mjcammo, I like that it sends whispers when you're not promoted, so you can leave thato ne :p
12:22.27CIA-703otravi 07otravi * r3663 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF_Party/party.lua: oUF2 - Party member's pet now hide like they should when hide party interface while in raid is on.
12:23.20Mikmawhat's the blizz command for raready?
12:23.55gngsk/readycheck
12:24.09CIA-703ammo * r3664 10BigWigs_RaidWarn/BigWigs_RaidWarn.lua:
12:24.09CIA-7BigWigs_RaidWarn:
12:24.09CIA-7* Added checking for Raidleader of Officer status to prevent spamming of the chatframe with "You are not the party leader."
12:24.20[Ammo]blizzards ready check is retarded imho
12:24.27gngskwhy?
12:24.36[Ammo]you have to wait 30 seconds for output
12:24.42[Ammo]it has no GUI
12:24.45[Ammo]it s u c k s
12:25.02[Ammo]I changed your logic a bit mjc :p
12:25.20[Ammo]to if( not IsRaidLeader() and not IsRaidOfficer() ) then return end :)
12:25.29mjcthanks, I didn't think hard on it
12:25.40mjcjust looked at the api list and spat out whatever came to mind
12:26.03[Ammo]I sure hope the newest CTRA still uses their own readycheck
12:26.05[Ammo]checking that quickly
12:26.26Icerothat least i got spammed by it yesterday in raid :)
12:26.34Mikmawell the people do get the GUI box infront of them
12:27.09Icerothbut someone complained that the ora readycheck never got to the raid leader on forums
12:27.28mjchow does the reagent check work? calls item checks for all the different reagents form a table?
12:27.33[Ammo]every class has reagents
12:27.41Kebinusanthe ora cooldown module doesnt seem to return anything
12:27.41[Ammo]and CTRA and oRA send the number back
12:27.46mjcaha
12:27.49[Ammo]ora cooldown works, but has no UI
12:27.58[Ammo]it's just there for compat with CTRA
12:28.05[Ammo]still needs some timers to show if you want it to etc
12:28.19[Ammo]I added rogue vanish reagent too ;)
12:28.30mjcflash powder :p
12:28.32[Ammo]so oRA users send that reagent
12:28.41mjcshould add the poisons too :p
12:28.44[Ammo]naah
12:28.52[Ammo]poisons not important, vanish at 50% into the fight is
12:28.57[Ammo](for most of the fights)
12:29.12mjcany rogue that doesn't have crippling poison shouldn't call themselves a rogue :p
12:29.28[Ammo]lunchtime ;)
12:29.29[Ammo]~
12:29.45NeronixHmm, I'm anticipating a problem with Ace2 adoption
12:29.56Industrial?
12:30.01NeronixThe problem: Joe Average misunderstanding how GC works
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12:30.27NeronixEach Ace2 addon "appears" to use at 200-300 kb at least in warmup
12:30.48NeronixBut joe average doesn't understand that this all goes away after a gc
12:31.03Neronixresult: Joe average thinks Ace2 mods are bloated and sucky
12:31.26hastebut joe average doesn't use warmup ;)
12:31.32NeronixJoe average does
12:31.37NeronixBelieve me :P
12:31.48mjcGroupCalendar is such a pain in my ass
12:31.55Mikmaok now, anyone can tell me the default position blizzard anchors MinimapCluster?
12:32.00FryGuyheh
12:32.02Mikmai really really need it :(
12:32.10NeronixSo does Mrs Average, Joe Average Jr, Joe Average's pal, and Joe Average's long lost 22nd cousin
12:32.20FryGuywonder if you could sneak a fix into warmup that reduces the memory of an addon with ace2 by 200 :p
12:32.35FryGuyand by fix I mean "fix"
12:34.17NeronixMikma: 928, 675
12:34.19CIA-703wobin * r3665 10PaintBall/ (Bindings.xml PaintBall.lua):
12:34.19CIA-7PaintBall - Keybindings.
12:34.19CIA-7- Ability to assign and announce raidicon tanktargets
12:34.22Neronixor so visor says
12:34.39MikmaNeronix: no i mean the SetPoint("blah",blah,"blah",x,y)
12:34.59NeronixI'll grep framexml for you
12:35.12Mikmai tried the same but can't find it there :(
12:35.21Mikma<Frame name="MinimapCluster" frameStrata="BACKGROUND" enableMouse="true" parent="UIParent">
12:35.24KebinusanI should install warmup and check out what mods I should look at replacing
12:35.25Mikmathat doesn't help me much
12:35.58Mikma<Anchor point="TOPRIGHT"/>
12:38.07NeronixThere you go :P
12:38.39Mikmawell that don't help me much
12:38.39CIA-703wobin * r3666 10PaintBall/ (PaintBall.lua PaintBall.toc): PaintBall - Incremented version
12:38.50Mikmabut i think i got an idea
12:38.57MikmaDiscord Frame Modifier...
12:39.03Mikmait has all the default positions in it or so
12:40.17ZheeleAfkWhy not use GetPoint() ?
12:40.47Mikmahmm
12:40.59Mikmawell how can i get the data from it and print it to chat?
12:41.09Mikmalocal x = MinimapCluster:GetPoint()
12:41.15Mikmaprint(x) ?
12:41.38ZheeleWowWiki: Region:GetPoint(point)  - Get details for an anchor points for this frame  (point,relativeTo,relativePoint,xofs,yofs) - New in 1.10.
12:41.57NeronixRegion:SetAllPoints(frame or "frameName")?
12:42.17Neronix--> MinimapCluster:SetAllPoints(MinimapCluster)
12:42.32ZheeleWouldn't that be rather pointless?
12:42.46NeronixWait, I don't think that actually moves it
12:42.53Mikmano it won't
12:42.54Kebinusananyone name a good alternative to engbags or metamap?
12:42.55Mikmai just tested
12:43.16ZheeleTo get a frame to move you need to do a :ClearAllPoints() first.
12:43.21Mikmacan't anchor to self
12:43.49Zheele:SetAllPoints just copies point information from one region to another.
12:43.57NeronixMinimapCluster:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", UIParent, "TOPRIGHT")
12:44.30Neronixafter clearing points
12:44.32Mikmayeah but i need coords too
12:44.37Mikmahumm
12:44.40ZheeleThen use GetPoint
12:45.00ZheeleReturns the same parameters as SetPoint uses.
12:45.17Neronix`afkI know nothing about frames, so that's all I can do to help :(
12:45.17Mikmai don't know what to put in GetPoint
12:45.25Mikmait only returns "TOPRIGHT"
12:45.25Zheelelocal point,relativeTo,relativePoint,xofs,yofs = MinimapCluster:GetPoint(1)
12:45.36Mikmaoh
12:46.15ZheeleDid that help?
12:46.54Mikmawell how do i print that out
12:47.32ZheeleDEFAULT_MESSAGE_FRAME:AddMessage("%s, %s, %s, %s, %s", point,relativeTo,relativePoint,xofs,yofs)
12:47.38ZheeleOr such.
12:48.27Mikmahmm nope
12:48.49ZheeleNot sure about the DEFAULT_ thingie. Hang on.
12:49.02Mikmadefault_chat_frame
12:49.13Mikmabut i get %s, %s, %s, %s, %s in chat now
12:49.37ZheeleMy bad. AddMessage don't take the same arguments as string.format
12:49.50ZheeleDEFAULT_MESSAGE_FRAME:AddMessage(string.format("%s, %s, %s, %s, %s", point,relativeTo,relativePoint,xofs,yofs))
12:49.52ZheeleShould work.
12:50.28Mikmanope
12:50.44Mikmabad argument "format"
12:50.56ZheeleMeh.
12:51.15Mikmastring expected, got table
12:52.37CIA-703wobin * r3667 10PaintBall/PaintBall.lua: PaintBall - Now has a toggle to automark selected target on activation
12:53.12Mikmahmm that got me thinking
12:53.24Mikmaif that would work wouldn't it be a smart way to save positions?
12:53.59ZheeleAh. I know where the error is.
12:54.12ZheelerelativeTo is a reference to the frame, not the name of the frame.
12:54.40Mikmaso it needs to be.. what?
12:54.40ZheeleDEFAULT_MESSAGE_FRAME:AddMessage(string.format("%s, %s, %s, %s, %s", point,relativeTo:GetName(),relativePoint,xofs,yofs))
12:55.24gngskthat works
12:55.33Mikmaworks
12:55.36gngskTOPRIGHT, UIParent, TOPRIGHT, 0, -3.05
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12:55.43Mikmawell i got 0, 0
12:55.49Mikmathat's funny heh
12:55.54gngskcuz I have fubar up top
12:55.59Mikmacool
12:56.00gngskwith the frame moving
12:56.13Mikmanow that got me thinking... what about if i use that to save and restore positions..
12:56.37Zheelegngsk: What is your UI scale?
12:57.17Mikmawell, i added local relativeTo = relativeTo:GetName() ..
12:57.22Mikmaand it still seems to work nicely :)
12:57.50Mikmaand local xofs = tonumber(xofs)
12:57.50Mikmasame to yofs
12:57.50gngskzheele, lemme check
12:57.59gngsk0.64
12:58.10gngskerr
12:58.12gngskthat's the smallest
12:58.16gngsknot sure what mine's set at
12:58.36Mikmalocal scale = UIParent:GetScale
12:58.40Mikmaprint(x)
12:58.48Mikmasorry, x=scale :P
12:59.02Mikmaand i forgot () after GetScale ;)
12:59.16ZheeleOr just: print(UIParent:GetScale())
12:59.28gngsk0.83999997377396
12:59.32Mikmarofl that's even better :)
12:59.57ZheeleI'm trying to figure out why my bottom GFX that is the same width as the screen don't fit as it should unless I scale it...
13:00.15ZheeleI suspect that when you uncheck "Use UI Scale" it doesn't set the scale to 1.
13:00.57gngskno, it does
13:00.58gngskjust checked
13:01.17gngskwell, unchecked, and tested
13:01.24ZheeleThen there's something else that's the problem.
13:01.41Mikmaoooh it works! movable minimap on/off :)
13:01.52ZheeleOne could, theoretically do a UIParent:SetScale(0.25)
13:02.02ZheeleThough it wold be painful on the eyes. :)
13:02.09Mikmalet's test!
13:02.21Mikmalol
13:02.43Mikmass coming up ;)
13:02.50gngskheh
13:02.52gngskI'm too scared
13:03.11ZheeleOr a UIParent:SetAlpha(0.5) to fade all UI elements to 50% opacity.
13:03.38Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/xtreme.jpg
13:03.54gngskheh
13:04.19Mikmai'll just disable all addons and test again ;D
13:04.19ZheeleQuote: "Wow... What's your resolution!!?!?!?!?"
13:04.27gngskheh
13:05.43GngskWorldMapFrame:SetScale(0.5) doesn't seem to do anything
13:05.55Gngsker, SetAlpha
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13:07.04Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/025.jpg
13:07.04Mikmathere's _GOOD_ jpg
13:07.06Mikmatry to read what does my chateditbox say? :)
13:07.16[Ammo]why oh why
13:07.17Gngskhello something
13:07.38[Ammo]hello world!
13:07.41Mikmayeah sorry i just noticed the cursor was showing on the moment :P
13:07.45Mikma[Ammo]: correct!
13:07.49Kebinusanomg
13:07.59Kebinusanit hurts us
13:08.24Kebinusanmakes your interface look really clean though :-)
13:08.32Mikmahehehe
13:08.52Mikmanotice my supermega-combatlog on bottomright
13:08.59ZheeleNot entirely sure about the syntax for SetScript here but this should work to enable moving the minimap:
13:09.01ZheeleMinimapCluster:RegisterForDrag("rightbutton")
13:09.01ZheeleMinimapCluster:SetScript("OnDragStart", function () this:StartMoving() end)
13:09.02ZheeleMinimapCluster:SetScript("OnDragEnd", function () this:StopMovingOrSizing() end)
13:09.25MikmaZheele: yeah that should work
13:10.17Kebinusanugh maybe I shouldnt have loaded warmup
13:10.40CIA-703mikma * r3668 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Mikma-Minimap.tga idMinimap.lua): Bartender: Minimap movable on/off works correctly, thanks Zheele!
13:10.51Zheele;)
13:11.19Gngskmeh
13:11.27Gngskget rid of the minimap and questframe stuff from a bar mod :P
13:11.28CIA-703mikma * r3669 10Bartender/UI-Minimap-Border.blp: Bartender: Useless file removed
13:11.52MikmaGngsk: minimap is not movable by default, but questwatch is. ain't that a good thing?
13:12.24steino!!
13:12.27ZheeleDoes WorldFrame:SetAlpha(0.5) work?
13:12.36Mikmayou know, you really can't move the default blizz questwatch, but with bartender you can :)
13:12.38steino./bar minimap only turns the minimap thingy ON
13:12.40steinonot off :(
13:12.49Mikmasteino: try the new svn
13:12.56steinoi am
13:13.11Mikmauh?
13:13.14GngskMikma, good or bad is irrelevent, it's the same issue I had with bartender moving the editbox
13:13.19steinoi updated like.. 1min ago
13:13.20steino:P
13:13.46GngskZheele, doesn't seem to do anything
13:14.02steinoBartender.lua:625: attempt to call method `Enable' (a nil value)
13:14.03Mikmasteino: well your SV is fooked up in that case i think, try /script BarDB = nil and /rl
13:14.06Mikmathen it should work
13:14.09ZheeleAh. Figures. WorldFrame doesn't inherit all the methods that normal frames do.
13:15.14GngskI get an error when I try the minimap movement script
13:15.34Mikmadid you clear settings?
13:15.49steinodoing it
13:15.52GngskRegisterForDrag("rightbutton..."]:3: MinimapCluster doesn't have a "OnDragEnd" script
13:16.11steinoMikma: same
13:16.13steino:|
13:16.30ZheeleAh. You need to set the scripts before you call RegisterForDrag maybe then.
13:16.30steinoit just says "Movable Minimap [ON]
13:16.35steinoand gives me that error
13:17.14Mikmasteino: 625: BarDB.Extra.SetMmap = "on"
13:17.52GngskZheele, I moved the 1st line to 3rd and same error
13:18.02ZheeleBah.
13:18.05Zheele*cries*
13:18.18steinowoo
13:18.20steinoworking!
13:18.29steinosvn messed up :s
13:18.30Gngskodd
13:18.35Mikmaheh
13:18.39Mikmahey...
13:18.43Mikmagalka had the same issue last night
13:18.45steinoi ran a svn update before i logged in
13:18.50Mikmahe got the wrong revision
13:18.53steinoand i ran one now
13:18.54Gngskoh, duh
13:19.02GngskI'm running CleanMiniMap, it prolly messes around with stuff
13:19.11steinoim running idminimap actually
13:19.12steino:s
13:19.24Mikmasteino: i tested with idMinimap and it should work perfectly
13:19.35steinoyep
13:19.36steinoit does
13:19.56MikmaGngsk: i'll have a look what could bork it with CleanMinimap
13:20.32Mikmai hope the slashcommands are much better now :)
13:20.47Gngskdunno, I'm not running bartender though, just using zheele's 3 lines
13:21.20steinoMikma: much better tbh :)
13:21.23Mikmayou should try wdn.Minimap
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13:21.42Mikmathat allows you to move the minimap too and has nice stuff in it
13:21.49Mikmasteino: well i thought so, that's the reason i wanted to redo them :D
13:23.02ZheeleGngsk: If you remove the space between function and () it still doesn't work does it?
13:24.20Gngskgets rid of the error, but minimap doesn't budge
13:24.27Gngsklemme relog w/o CMM enabled
13:24.56Mikmahmm
13:25.03Gngskooh, new error
13:25.06Hakkerdang haste working again I guess
13:25.09Mikmai should do the vertical/horizontal switching too for bars
13:25.19GngskRegisterForDrag("rightbutton..."]:2: Frame MinimapCluster is not movable
13:25.25GngskMikma, yes!
13:25.28ZheeleDoh.
13:25.35Gngskand eventually the ability to split bars up maybe?
13:25.49MikmaZheele: heh i realized what'swrong
13:25.50Gngskability to set row/col settings
13:26.00Mikmaname:SetMovable(true)
13:26.06ZheeleAdd: MinimapCluster:SetMovable(true)
13:26.07Mikmareplace name with MinimapCluster
13:26.38MikmaGngsk: helllllll no :D that's bloating hehe xD Nurfed_ActionBars does that nicely :)
13:26.47ZheeleTime to head home again I guess. :)
13:27.14Zheele4 weeks of vacation ahead. Time to slack.
13:27.19Gngsk:D
13:27.24Mikmaoh cool, grats :)
13:27.52Mikmasteino: have a look at the SavedVariables/Bartender.lua when you have used /rl once :) it should be pretty now too!
13:27.54ZheeleTake care. And don't move your minimaps where you can't reach them.
13:28.08steinozomg!
13:28.12steinoi love pretty savedvars
13:28.13Mikmai spent many hours yesterday redoing the SV and it ended up to be nice :)
13:28.13ZheeleMikma: You should probably add a /resetminimap option
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13:28.30MikmaZheele: well there is /bar reset which resets the minimap too
13:28.50GngskMikma, how is that bloat?
13:28.54ZheeleSaweet. I dislike addons that let you move stuff off the screen and you can't get them back.
13:28.59MikmaGngsk: since i can't code it haha :D
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13:29.20Gngskok, that's a better reason
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13:29.37Mikmayeah sorry should have said that in the first place
13:29.57Mikmalook at the start of the Bartender.lua in the AddOns ..
13:30.01Mikmayou'll see my todo list :P
13:34.30Mikmanow i'll fix the Shapeshift and MainBar hiding-bug :)
13:35.51Neronix`afkMikma: Screen limit doesn't actualyl toggle
13:35.58Neronix`afkit just prints that it's on
13:36.14MikmaNeronix: ok i'll have alook
13:36.20NeronixThanks <3
13:37.42Mikmais this with the latest svn?
13:37.55NeronixYeah
13:38.12Mikmait should be on by default, right?
13:38.36Mikmaoh yeah
13:38.39Mikmaon on on on..
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13:40.45MikmaThrae: code tinytip1
13:40.47Mikma2
13:41.03ThraeI'm working off a laptop here at my parents' house.
13:43.33MikmaNeronix: quickfix you can do: /script BarDB.Extra.SetLimit = "off"
13:43.39Mikmathen you can move them etc :)
13:45.12CIA-703mikma * r3670 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: Screenlimit fix
13:45.41Mikmaone damn set in toggle was missing "Set" ;)
13:47.07NeronixThanks a bunch <3
13:47.38Mikmanp :)
13:47.46NeronixTip of the day: Tell annoying fucks who beg for summons/conjures, act like arseholes, etc to do /script setfenv(0, {})
13:47.59NeronixFucks up their UI until that alt-f4, and wipes their settings
13:48.04Mikmaput that to purl
13:48.07NeronixI found out the last part the hard way :(
13:48.09Mikma~beg
13:48.10purlACTION begs
13:48.54Mikmalet's try!
13:49.25Neronixpurl_: wowlart is /script setfenv(0, {}) - Fucks up the luser's UI until that alt-f4, and wipes their settings. By ckknight, testing by Neronix
13:49.30Mikmapurl_ no, begger is /script setfenv(0, {})
13:49.40Mikmaheh :P
13:51.38phybersweet.
13:52.44NeronixNow I have to reconfig everything :<
13:54.08FryGuyhmm wonder if you'd get suspended for tricking people to doing that
13:54.29Shyvawhy should you? it's their own fault for listening to you :o
13:55.16phyberyeah, if you're dumb enough to execute that command you don't have the right to complain.
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13:58.44phyberNeronix: does it wipe all of the SavedVariables too?
13:58.51phyberNeronix: oh, never mind
13:58.54phyberjust saw that it does ;)
13:59.51NeronixI warned you :P
14:00.59phyberNeronix: no, I didn't do it
14:01.02phyberbut I saw this...
14:01.04phyber1452.44 <   Neronix> Now I have to reconfig everything :<
14:01.06phyber;)(#
14:01.17phyberbah, who put those extra keys near Enter.
14:06.09MikmaRAAAAR!!!
14:06.23Mikmamy quickhack sucks ass
14:08.26phyberMikma: I'm going to try hacking FlyPaper and Infield into Bartender later.
14:08.54phyber(sticky frames + stop going offscreen) ;)
14:09.18Mikmak then, try to make it in the code if possible :)
14:09.29TekcubFlypaper?
14:09.42TekcubInfield - I wrote StayWithinTheLines bishies
14:09.52Tekcuband mine supports multimon, Infield don't
14:09.59phyberTekcub: FlyPaper is Tullers's Sticky Frames lib
14:10.04Tekcuband mine's embeddable
14:10.05phyberahh, fair enough.  I'll try that one then :)
14:10.22phyberTullers's?  gg.
14:10.39Tekcuband, uhm, there's that new API thing to restrict a frame to the visible UI
14:10.40Mikma~wowlart phyber
14:11.05Mikmathe whole screen?
14:11.22Mikmawith blizzards SetClampedToScreen there's 3pixel border going around the screen
14:11.22phyberTekcub: yeah, but it sucks.  there is a 3 pixel border or something.
14:17.53phyberTekcub: got any documentation for StayWithinTheLines?
14:17.55phyberwiki is empty
14:20.06ThraeAny Ace2 devs awake?
14:24.57CIA-703mikma * r3671 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: Switching MainBar to visible after Shapeshift -bug fixed
14:25.14Mikmaone less on todo!
14:25.59Mikmaplease test that with classes who have swapping bars :)
14:26.25Mikmafirst do a /bar bar1, then shapeshift/switch stance, and use /bar bar1 again to get the MainBar visible
14:26.56Mikmabefore that commit it always showed the ActionButton1-12 always, but now it should show the correct bar
14:27.31Mikmanotice! you won't hear the *DOH* sound when shapeshifting if the MainBar is visible, it's on purpose :)
14:27.55Mikmas/visible/invisible/
14:29.00steinoi never use sound!
14:29.04steino*gasp*
14:29.26Mikmawell do you even know there's a sound when you ie. shapeshift with druid? :)
14:29.40Mikmasome kind of *DOGHN* sound or so
14:31.07Gngskthe sound you hear when you dismount?
14:31.19Mikmanope
14:31.25Mikmajust a sec
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14:31.43steinothere is?
14:31.53steinocant remember last time i played with sound :p
14:32.03IndustrialTekcub: Did you make that lib that makes things stick in the visible part of the interface?\
14:32.09Mikmatry: /script ShowBonusActionBar()
14:32.15Mikmathen you'll hear the sound
14:32.18IndustrialTekcub: if so it always leaves 1pxof free space
14:32.24IndustrialTekcub: :\
14:34.22Tekcub:P
14:35.16ZheeleTime to carry boxes. See you later.
14:36.01Industrialhumm cant we split up all the addons int he forum
14:36.02Industrial?
14:36.06Industrial;D
14:37.51MikmaOOOOH!
14:38.01Mikmachemical brothers - block rocking beats - on tv!
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14:40.10Mikmaok let's have another approach on the SavePosition and RestorePosition
14:42.08CIA-703shyva * r3672 10BigWigs/AQ20/Ossirian.lua:
14:42.08CIA-7BigWigs:
14:42.08CIA-7Ossirian - Synchronization added.
14:42.18Tekcubckk, you around?
14:45.18Industrialthe guild bank and forums guy decided to leave
14:45.20Industrialand take the bank
14:45.24Industrialand forums are gone
14:45.29IndustrialWHAT A FUCKING DICK
14:45.33Industrial</rant>
14:45.50Mikma:D
14:46.35Mikmayay i managed to crash wow
14:47.10IndustrialPersonally I believe in a guild system where everyone gives what they dont need, and people take what they want.
14:47.21IndustrialI really believe that the guild will benefit alot from that
14:47.53IndustrialEspecially with a few high levelers that just trash their stuff and the low levelers that can level up quicker
14:47.57Industrialwith the trash
14:47.58Industrial:P
14:48.12IndustrialAnd if you ask someone to make you an item it gets made without a price
14:48.16Industrialand vise versa
14:48.29Industrialoh well
14:48.32Industrial*schoolwork*
14:49.38Industrial(ive been in a few of these guilds in other games and because of that system and the respect it shows to other guildmembers theres also respect to other people. We always had a very good standing and were respected as a guild. etcetc)
14:49.56Industrialit DOES work ;)
14:50.14Wobinif the guildbank isn't a fuckwit
14:50.25Industrialyes
14:50.48IndustrialIts good to start with people you know IRL
14:50.52Industrialso you can kick their ass
14:50.53Industrial:p
14:51.33Industrial~wts.remotion.nl
14:51.38Industrialoops wrong window
14:52.02CIA-703ammo * r3673 10BigWigs/AQ40/Sartura.lua:
14:52.02CIA-7BigWigs (Sartura):
14:52.02CIA-7* Added syncing of the Whirlwind events.
14:57.22Mikmaargh
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15:01.52Mikmazheele's script doesn't seem to work with frames created with CreateFrame
15:09.21Mikmahmm i just got a idea on how to position the frame on screen no matter what scale is in use
15:11.19Mikmai'll move the frames to correct positions with SetPoint, then I use GetLeft and GetTop to get the position and save it as default
15:30.32Wobinhm
15:30.42WobinI want to convert PlowKing completely to AceOO
15:30.48Wobinbut it's such a large task =P
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15:33.12Amadeo:DD
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15:38.50KaeltenWobin: heh ya it can be
15:39.05KaeltenWobin:  I'm converting OneBag over to Ace2 while at the same time rewriting it
15:39.13[Wobin]woot
15:39.34[Wobin]Well.. I may as well start =P
15:39.34[Wobin]I'll thank myself later, I'm sure =P
15:39.38Kaeltenhehe
15:40.22AmadeoI didn't know you wrote OneBag
15:40.30KaeltenTuran did
15:40.34Amadeoohh
15:40.37KaeltenHe handed it off to me when he left
15:40.47Kaeltenso Its not mine to mutilate
15:40.48Kaelten:)
15:40.49AmadeoKaelten: You should make it better than Bagnon :D
15:41.07KaeltenI'm trying lol
15:41.12Amadeohehe
15:41.20Kaeltenright now my memory # from warmup is 333kb
15:41.25Kaeltenand its usable
15:41.38[Wobin]Kael, can you do me a favour?
15:41.42Kaelten?
15:41.53[Wobin]Move the PaintBall thread to the RaidAddon forum?
15:41.55Amadeothis is a cool addon: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4264
15:42.05Kaeltenwobin: give me a link
15:42.09[Wobin]k, one sec
15:42.18Kaeltenamadea hmm neat
15:42.39Amadeolooks old though
15:42.43Amadeo10900
15:42.44Amadeohehe
15:43.44[Wobin]http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1585.0.html
15:45.45Kaeltendone
15:46.30[Wobin]Thank you =)
15:46.44phybermaybe Tekcub's READ ME thing should be a sticky.
15:47.02phyberif you have that power :)
15:47.18Kaeltenphyber: I have all the power :)
15:47.21Kaeltenwhat readme?
15:48.01phyberhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1620.0.html
15:48.07phyberthis post, in the Raid Addons forum
15:48.39Kaeltensticked
15:49.28phybercool :)
15:50.01phyberhttp://www.yatblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/pm20060621.png
15:51.30KaeltenI never used baggon whats theb ig deal with it anyway?
15:52.24Icerothbagnon?
15:52.48phyberKaelten: it's really nice is the deal :)
15:53.00Icerothand lol at the web design pic :)
15:53.08AmadeoKaelten: Works well and is lightweight :)
15:53.16Icerothbagnon the updated version of onebag
15:53.31Icerothi was reluctant to give up on onebag but it wasn't updated in ages
15:53.51Ratbert_CPWhee!  BagBoy2 rules seem to be working...
15:53.57Kaeltensounds about right iceroth
15:54.11Kaelteniceroth well Onebag is coming back with a vengence :)
15:54.50Icerothi've been wanting to ask, is there really a point of keeping 2 almost similar addons? i mean, bagnon does everything i fell in love with onebag plus a little more
15:55.24Icerothand it's being updated :)
15:55.36TainKaelten: Bagnon just took up less resources than OneBag and was being updated frequently.  You know how people start to shy away from older addons becaue they think new has to be better.
15:55.39Kaeltenwell the lack of updates is my fault, because I havn't devoted any time to it
15:56.19TainBut I've barely noticed any difference using Bagnon and having used Onebag forever.  Except just recently with the keyrings added to Bagnon.
15:56.24Icerothnot wishing to blame anyone here but i'm just saying there's an excellent "all in one bag" mod out there already
15:56.53TainWhich means it's better to have more than one excellent one. :)
15:57.19Ratbert_CPDang!  Forgot that AceDB-2.0 doesn't do the nifty auto-create...  Which means I need to use the handy-dandy :RegisterDefaults function!
15:57.52Icerothand if you have Kaelten already some other mod ideas in mind/things to do, imo give bagnon a try before you do the onebag rewrite :)
15:58.08CIA-703joshborke * r3674 10HealWatch/ (5 files):
15:58.08CIA-7HealWatch: Too many changes to list. Currently broken!
15:58.08CIA-7- Dynamically creating label frames
15:58.08CIA-7- Working on getting the label frames to work properly
15:58.19CIA-703mikma * r3675 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: Default Layout changes :) Love ya!
15:58.21AmadeoI like how you can choose to display your bags in Bagnon, and mousing over them highlights the spaces they take up
15:58.33Icerothsame
15:58.40Icerothas i have the bag slots hidden in my ui
15:59.03TainI like that however I also found it was completely meaningless to me after a while.
15:59.07Kaeltenwell part of my problem is there are features I want to see
15:59.09Icerothwas a fuzz to find them bag to change my new shiny onyxia bag to replace traveler's :)
15:59.19AmadeoTain: It's nice when you're leveling up and swapping bags out and such
15:59.21KebinusanI just picked it because engbag is just too damn bulky
15:59.22Kaeltenand its my nature that I just make it instead of asking for someone else to do it
15:59.36Iceroth=)
15:59.52TainYeah Amadeo but it's still easier/faster (to me) to click show bags for 2 seconds to find the bag you want rather than counting highlighted spaces.
15:59.57TainDont' get me wrong I do think it's a nice feature.
15:59.57Icerothnih syndrome :)
16:00.09TainJust that it was less useful than I thought it would actually be to me.
16:00.17Kaeltenalso I think it can be done more effeciantly :)
16:00.20TainSo it's more of a, "oooh sparkly"
16:00.26Amadeohaha
16:00.27KaeltenTuran over complicated things honestly
16:00.38AmadeoTain: I didn't know OneBag could even show bags, it's been a long time since I used it
16:00.47Kaeltenit can't yet :)
16:00.52TainOh i was talking about Bagnon. hehe
16:01.01Amadeooh ok :)
16:01.06AmadeoTain: Yeah, taht's how I do it
16:01.38Mikmalol ok i have to go to movies to watch tokyo drift again with my GF and with our friends
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16:01.41TainAnd Kaelten I always just try to keep in mind that Turan (and a lot of people) were still flying blind a little with Lua and WoW when a lot of this stuff was put together.
16:01.43clado hai
16:01.48TainWe have a lot of benefit of experience now.
16:01.51Mikmahi clad-cgi:irc
16:01.53Kaeltenmikma how was it?
16:02.07MikmaKaelten: i myself _did_ like it, it's different than the other 2 were
16:02.15Mikmabut some people say it's pure shit etc etc
16:02.27Kaeltentain: they where, also the enviroment in general has evolved a lot.  Some things that where needed then are not anymore.
16:02.36TainThat's absolutely true
16:02.43Mikmathis is not about speed, it's about drifting, as the name does say ;)
16:03.03Mikmaphyber: if you mod Bartender, Submit it to branches and let me know :)
16:03.11TainAlthough one thing I'd like to see is MyBindings updated, it doesn't work (at least for me) and I didn't realize how much better it was than the default until trying to use the default again.
16:03.13cladwhat are we discussing?
16:03.22Mikmaclad: bees and honey
16:03.42Tainclad: We're discussing the economic and societal conditions of post World War I Baltic states.
16:04.06AmadeoDamn.  OneBag is a diverse addon
16:04.48KaeltenTain: I've asked Delva to take that one over but he said he didn't want to, there is a working update in the forums that he put togather though
16:04.58cladTain: I'm not a fan of the ballz.  Its been downhill there sinec WWI for sure.
16:05.11TainOh right forums.
16:05.21TainYes I ah... have kept up on the forums very actively.  err
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16:05.34Ratbert_CPFor Ace2, does OnEnable fire after the UI is loaded?  I'm trying to figure out if I have to keep up the massive Optional dep list, or if I can just set up teh connectors after all teh addons have loaded...
16:06.12MikmaAce2 handles OnLoad and OnEvent nicely?
16:06.14KaeltenOnEnable fires roughly on PLAYER_LOGIN I believe
16:07.37cladOnEnable fires after VARIABLES_LOADED if that's the question =)
16:07.38Ratbert_CPSo I can check IsAddOnLoaded then, and be relatively confident that all modules have, in fact, loaded?
16:07.52cladRatbert_CP: Absolutely
16:07.53KaeltenI believe so Ratbert
16:08.11Mikmawhich one is better sentence: "Toggle the Moving of Minimap" or "Toggle the Movable Minimap"
16:08.14Ratbert_CPCoolio...  Makes it a lot easier to add support of third-party addons...
16:08.36Ratbert_CP"Toggle the moveability of the minimap"
16:08.54Mikmaok thanks
16:09.16TainDo people really move the minimap around a lot?
16:09.21AmadeoMS has a new keyboard/mouse combo coming :P   http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/ultimatekeyboard/default.mspx
16:09.29TainYeah it's Ultimate.
16:09.44AmadeoI still want a G15
16:09.45MikmaTain: propably not, that's why it's on OFF in my addon ;)
16:10.11TainI love my G15.  The LCD support that was added is pretty meaningless to me, but I use it for other things.
16:11.24cladtain is a chinese farmer.
16:11.31AmadeoYou should buy me one, and we can enjoy it together
16:11.36cladok, back to work-- lunch and more factorylink
16:11.37clad*vomit*
16:11.44Industrialhttp://www.wolf-claw.com/eboutique/product.php
16:11.49IndustrialI have a Wolf Claw Devour
16:12.08Industrialits pretty handy
16:12.22IndustrialCan use 1-10 now without moving my hand
16:12.23TainIt's not handy.  It's claw-y.
16:12.27Industrialhah
16:12.28Industrial;P
16:12.29MikmaHAHAHA clad owns xD
16:12.45AmadeoSlow website, waiting on pics :P
16:12.49Industrial:>
16:12.55Industrialthe bottom one
16:13.00Mikma<2320> <clad> its just a proxy for big brother reasons
16:13.00Mikma<2320> <Mikma> *** Signoff: clad (foo@bar) Reason: "Big Brother is watching"
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16:13.10Mikmahehehe
16:13.40AmadeoIndustrial: Whoa, that's weird
16:13.55IndustrialYep, had to get used to it - it arrived a few days ago
16:14.01AmadeoIt's kinda like a um...
16:14.04Amadeothat N52 thing?
16:14.16Industrialyeah but more buttons :P
16:14.43Industrialim a button fetishist, my mouse has 12
16:14.54Amadeowtfff
16:14.55Amadeohaha
16:15.02CIA-703handdol * r3676 10BigWigs/ZG/ (Arlokk.lua Marli.lua Venoxis.lua):
16:15.02CIA-7BigWigs
16:15.02CIA-7<PROTECTED>
16:15.02CIA-7<PROTECTED>
16:15.08Industrial(logitech ms 1000)
16:15.09Industrialmx*
16:15.18TainMouse buttons bug me.  
16:15.19KebinusanThe wolf claws look pretty nice
16:15.42Amadeoa lot of companies forget the biggest problem with most keyboards used for gaming
16:15.51Industrial?
16:15.52Amadeothe hardware key buffer is usually too small in most
16:16.02Industrialuh, what do you mean?
16:16.18AmadeoHow many keys you can press at one time before they stop registering
16:16.35CIA-703handdol * r3677 10BigWigs/MC/Ragnaros.lua:
16:16.35CIA-7BigWigs
16:16.35CIA-7<PROTECTED>
16:16.41AmadeoDoesn't happen as much in an MMOG, but in FPS games it does
16:16.46Industrialah yes
16:17.25Industrialwell its still not the ultimate keyboard for me
16:17.28Amadeohah
16:17.34Amadeolooks like everyone is making those pads now
16:17.38Amadeohttp://www.zboard.com/experience/FANG/
16:17.58TainThey've actually been around a while, just weren't getting much exposure.
16:18.01AmadeoI don't like that one at all
16:18.12Industrialme neither
16:18.16Tainzboard has some other ones that are highly configurable button-wise.
16:18.37IndustrialAmadeo: oh oh the 1-10 keys are neat tho
16:18.42Industrialthat i like
16:18.50AmadeoTain: Yeah, and they have a surprisingly nice key feel for being a modular design
16:18.54AmadeoIndustrial: Yeah, I just noticed that
16:19.29Amadeothey have one like those other keyboards on your page too
16:19.31Amadeohttp://www.zboard.com/experience/MERC/
16:20.13Industrialyeh
16:20.24AmadeoI used one at QuakeCon years ago...original Zboards...they weren't bad, some keys were too small though
16:20.28IndustrialThere was one keyboard where you get loose keys and place them
16:20.31Industrialbut it was expensive
16:20.47Ratbert_CPAnyone use the Orb 360?
16:20.56TainI did once.
16:20.58TainI couldn't get the hang of it.
16:21.05TainI bought one to play Descent/Descent 2.
16:21.09Amadeooh man
16:21.14AmadeoDescent series was the best
16:21.17Ratbert_CPI couldn't get it either, but watching one guy in Duke Nukem3d damned near made me sick...
16:21.18TainAnd Forsaken.
16:21.20AmadeoStill mad they didn't make 4
16:21.23Industrialhttp://www.3dgamers.com/articles/more/37/ ?
16:21.48TainI really did try, but I couldn't manage to ever use it well.
16:21.52KebinusanI think I still have one of those space orbs
16:22.22TainI used to have the best Descent deathmatches for hours upon end with friends.
16:22.37TainTrue 3d environment, it was great.
16:22.53AmadeoDescent 4, made well, would be a huge hit
16:23.18TainI dunno, Descent and 2 never caught on big.  At least not compared to the Dooms and Quakes at the time.'
16:23.48AmadeoI think because people weren't into the 3D thing as much yet
16:24.14TainA couple of us played a mean trick on a couple of people we were playing with, took the default maps and edited them and added some "secret" tunnels and whatnot.  Put the maps on everyone's computer.
16:24.30Amadeohaha
16:24.45TainIt was so funny to burst out of a wall firing away.
16:25.09TainActually Descent also had the first time I'd ever seen anyway the ability to take 3 PCs networked together and have them act as one.
16:25.20AmadeoDescent was the first game that using a joystick actually made you play better
16:25.28TainYou could have 3 PCs next to each other, right monitor was your right display, left monitor left, center, etc.
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16:26.39Wobinrar
16:26.44Wobinmonthly disconnect =P
16:26.49WobinWelcome to July btw =P
16:28.38Industrialheh
16:28.56Industrialyou are 6 hours too early you silly
16:29.00Industrial:.
16:29.01Industrial:>
16:36.52Amadeoaiyeee
16:38.44Ratbert_CPOoops...  Note: Never, *ever* accidentally list your Ace2 object as a saved variable.  It's bad.
16:40.05Ratbert_CP31Mb SV...  Ow.
16:40.45phyber:o
16:42.35Ratbert_CPIt's not good, but it would be worse (?) if it actually managed to properly serialize all the functions.
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16:48.07Kaeltenso is a warmup # of 341 for onebag a little nicer sounding :)
16:48.22hyperChipmunk!
16:48.34hyperChipmunknicer than 2650
16:48.40Kaeltenhehe
16:48.51Kaeltenits not quite up to where it was, but I don't expect to break 400
16:48.58Kaeltenor if I do not by much
16:49.23Kaeltenhowever if its the only ace2 addon it'd be closer to 800 because of ace2 loading up
16:49.31Industrial<PROTECTED>
16:49.41Industrialattempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
16:49.42Industrial:S:S
16:49.58Kaeltenself.Frames[Unit] is probably nil
16:50.06Industrialhmm
16:50.08Kaeltenor maybe Unit is nil
16:50.28Kaeltenone of those two most likely
16:50.34Industrialk
16:51.05Kaeltenotherwise it'd tell you what is nil, I guess that Unit is nil
16:51.18Industrialhttp://pastebin.ca/75825
16:51.21Industrialmaking unitframes ^__^
16:51.53Kaeltenwhats the line number the error is on?
16:52.06Industrial142
16:52.24Industrialon line 60 you can see
16:52.25Industrialah
16:52.37Industrialim making self.Frames.Player and Unit is player
16:53.08Kaeltenyep
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16:55.01hyperChipmunkomg wobin's ebil twin
16:55.05hyperChipmunker, more ebil
16:55.28hyperChipmunkhehe
16:57.03Kaelten[11:51-202] OneBag\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:35: attempt to index field `positions' (a nil value)
16:57.03Kaelten<PROTECTED>
16:57.04Kaelten...
16:57.04Kaeltendamnit
16:57.13hyperChipmunkKaelten fails at life
16:57.28Kaeltenlife?
16:57.39hyperChipmunklife, the universe, and everything
16:57.58Kaeltenheh
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17:00.54Icerothha, i just made a bug submission for you elkano :)
17:01.07Elkanojust answered it ^^
17:01.42Industrialwewt
17:02.50Icerothto clarify: it doesn't happen every time, that was the first time i saw it
17:03.29Elkanook, hen it will be even harder to track it down :/
17:04.00Elkanosince you are here, may I assume that you are into coding, too?
17:04.15Icerothcoding generally yea, not too much to lua i'm afraid
17:04.49Elkanowell, do you feel able to do some debuging on your own?
17:05.13Icerothi'll look into it if it happens again?)
17:06.13Icerothoh btw, doing reloadui 'resets' the bars, 15mins left on motw looks like full bar (but i suppose this is by design?)
17:08.23Elkanowell, there is no way to get the max time of a buff. so I store the max known timeleft until the buff expires
17:09.14Icerothbut apparently not in the savedvariables thing though?
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17:11.03Kaeltenlol well that error doesn't happen anymore now you get a new one.
17:11.12Kaeltenkergoth:  you around?
17:12.47Elkanono, since I see no point in wasting space for this
17:13.20Elkanoalso there are buffs/debuffs that have the same name but different times (eg Shadowword: Pain)
17:14.18HakkerHakker entered the linux era or so he thought...
17:14.40Hakkerhe just spend 3 hours working on the Ubuntu install cd without actually installing it
17:14.44Elkanowelcome on the road to damnation :)
17:14.52Icerothyea, so it's by design and i shouldn't worry about it :)
17:15.03Elkanoyes :)
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17:18.14Hakker04(haste04): come in please
17:20.49Temholy cow they made debuff curing easy this patch
17:21.08TemI don't even have to scan tooltips
17:21.08[Wobin]hows that?
17:21.37TemdebuffTexture, debuffApplications, debuffDispelType = UnitDebuff(unitID, debuffIndex, showDispellable)
17:21.45[Wobin]nice
17:22.17Elkano-> debuffType = GetPlayerBuffDispelType(id)
17:23.17TemI don't plan on fooling with the PlayerBuff functions
17:23.29Temthose have different returns and that sort of wierd stuff
17:23.36Amadeohaha
17:23.48Amadeoran into a 60 Shaman who laughed at me when I attacked him...well, he did win, but he had to pot to do so :)
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17:24.25HakkerI laugh at any rogue and hunter with my warrior
17:24.58ElkanoI laugh at any other class with my rogue...
17:25.04Tupladlolz
17:25.05Elkano...after I hit the floor
17:25.11TupladI laugh at everyone when I bubble+hs in AV
17:26.46AmadeoHow come Bloodvenom Post has guards but Talonbranch Glade doesn't?
17:28.10Hakkerseriously warrior easily pwn rogues
17:28.21Hakkerbut mages generally fuck up warriors
17:28.30Hakkernot to mention locks :(
17:28.37TupladHakker: Stunlocking Rogue > Warrior
17:28.52Tupladrogue without cooldowns and perfect stunlock -> dead warrior, seriously
17:29.28Tupladif warrior resists or w/e the stun, evasion - I'd like to get hit every 5 seconds(or w/e the CD on overpower is) instead of every sec, and usually at that point, warrior will be in berserker.
17:30.07Tupladhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2119399306660584495 that's an example
17:30.34Tupladrogue's got blind, vanish, kidney shot, cheapshot, sap(sap + bandage), they can drink tea if needed
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17:30.44Tupladrogues*
17:31.00MoonWolf: The makers of Azarath and Metrion are proud to introduce: Zinthos. New and improved Zinthos gives you exactly what you need, exactly when you need it. And because it's blue, Zinthos goes with everything. Zinthos isn't right for everyone and may cause bloating, cramping, hair loss, disturbing visions, fits of rage, and growth of additional eyes. Children under three should not be exposed to Zinthos. Do not get Zinthos wet and never feed it a
17:31.02MoonWolffter midnight. If you experience trouble meditating, stop saying Zinthos and consult your ancient scrolls immediately
17:31.26Hakkeruntil a warrior gets a window thanks to dodge/block/evade and rogues are generally dead
17:32.29Tupladgouge, tea, vanish, stunlock
17:32.33Tupladgouge can be replaced by blind
17:32.45Tupladthen use that thing in subtlety that resets all cooldowns, and there you go again
17:33.53TainEhn I only pve with my Rogue anyway.
17:35.24Tupladpve pvp, same shit for a rogue
17:36.11Amadeoit all depends on gear and windows
17:36.28Amadeoif a really well equipped Warrior can get two hits off, it's over
17:36.35Amadeoif they can't, they're done
17:37.41Amadeoif a Rogue is gonna use all cooldowns, they should win
17:39.48Tuplad2 hits ?
17:39.50Tupladhm
17:39.56ThraeBut if a Druid uses all their cooldowns, they should survive ;)
17:40.01Tupladthat something to discuss about
17:40.08Tupladdruid is very very good imo
17:40.09Hakkerwell it's almost impossible to not get 4 secs on a rogue and that's all we need
17:40.12AmadeoTuplad: Yeah, if they have really good gear :)
17:40.14Tupladit wont survive a warrior, but a rogue fo' sho'
17:40.29AmadeoTuplad: You ever see that Rogue video...argh, I forget the name...it was an Orc Rogue with dual maces
17:41.07ThraeOOMkin can easily beat a Warrior (especially now with base Innervate), Resto can beat a Warrior given enough time, Feral it's tricky but doable.
17:41.30Amadeohe was fighting a Rank 14 Warrior, he had the Warrior stunned about 98% of the fight, the Warrior got in one round and the Rogue was at about 10% health...the Rogue ended up winning, but it all depends on gear and if the Warrior can ever do anything...a good Rogue can sometimes make that not happen
17:41.38Amadeoand then, other factors...Orc Warriors resisting all stuns... :P
17:42.06AmadeoThrae: With proper roots and bash/heals, yeah
17:42.32ThraeYeah, the CMs confirmed that's +25% resistance to stuns, not 125% of your base chance to resist stuns
17:42.49AmadeoI still think it's a little high
17:43.02Tainpvp and pve are completely different for rogues.
17:43.03ThraeThat IS higher then people usually think it is.
17:43.04AmadeoOrcs resist my Charge almost 90% of the time
17:43.21TainAs they are for almost every class.
17:43.33ThraeWhat they really need to do is separate all effects into PvE and PvP catagories.
17:43.48AmadeoThe next class I play, I want to be able to use ONE set of gear for everything :P
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17:43.53Amadeolike a hunter or something
17:43.57Amadeothey don't have to do anything but DPS!
17:44.24SlaymanGermany just made it to the semifinals of the world cup, that was one hell of game i tell you
17:44.41AmadeoThrae: Anything new on TinyTip?
17:44.46ThraeWhatever class you play, if you ever plan on PvP'ing while you might go on instances, you will need a PvE and a PvP set.
17:45.07ThraeEspecially when it comes time for raiding.
17:45.28ThraePriests don't need stamina in PvE Raid as much as they need Spirit, but in PvP they should have lots and lots of Stamina.
17:45.33HakkerI always have 3 sets
17:45.47AmadeoThrae: What about Hunters?
17:45.55ThraeAmadeo: My little brother stole my laptop for a while to play WoW with a friend, I just got it back a few minutes ago.
17:45.58HakkerPVE set with loads of sta and strenght
17:46.10ThraeHunters don't need Stamina in PvE
17:46.15HakkerPVP set with agi +hit and +crit
17:46.20TainOnce you start raiding you'll probably end up with more than 3 sets. :)
17:46.31Hakkerand fire res since it's just 4 pieces ;)
17:46.39ThraeHunters should have Agi, Int, Spirit in about that order
17:46.42SlaymanHunters pick up lot's of +hit and +INT in PvE and in PvP it's +Sta and +Crit
17:46.45ThraeFor PvE
17:46.55ThraeAs Slayman said
17:47.33AmadeoRogues? :P
17:47.48ThraeBy the way Slayman, I could use your Germanic expertise for TinyTip, if you have time.
17:47.55Slaymanof course
17:48.46Slaymanjust hit me Thrae, I have kind of a heartbeat right now but it'll go down
17:49.54ThraeSlayman: http://pastebin.ca/75865 <-- you might have a heartattack after you read how much text there is in TinyTipChatLocale
17:50.28Slaymani would have a heart attack right now if we lost that damn game
17:50.54ThraeWas it against the Americans?
17:51.12SlaymanArgentina
17:51.19[Wobin]At what level to pallies get judge?
17:51.24Slaymani don't know how you call that country in english sry
17:51.30hyperChipmunkArgentina
17:51.35[Wobin]Did Germany win?
17:51.41hyperChipmunkin penalties
17:51.45[Wobin]Woohoo
17:51.49[Wobin]Go germany!
17:52.01hyperChipmunkthey tied it 1-1 in the 80th minute
17:52.03ThraeWe crazy Americans usually try to keep the names of the countries intact in English :D
17:52.09[Wobin]heheh
17:52.15[Wobin]unlike the chinese =P
17:52.15IndustrialNeed help getting ym hp bar to actually work. http://pastebin.ca/75863
17:52.16Industrialits not doing anything atm
17:52.17Industrial:P
17:52.33[Wobin]Well apart from the fact they're from deutchland
17:52.33SlaymanThrae, just for understanding:  targeted by ###  really means the the tooltipped unit is the target of ###   ?
17:52.52Slaymanit's deutschland at least don't omit the s
17:53.09Hakkerunbelievable
17:53.13ThraeSlayman: Right.
17:53.17Industrialinconceivable!
17:53.18Industrial:P
17:53.25Hakkerbecause it isn't really a good team imo
17:54.59SlaymanOMG THRAE u gotta be kidding me ..., just a joke, it'll take some time so please be patient
17:55.36Industrialno-one? =(
17:55.44ThraeHaha no worries, I'm still trying to fix bugs anyway.
17:55.44Industrialhelp meeee
17:55.45Industrial:D
17:55.59ThraeThose Frenchies will just have to wait until I can find someone, too :D
17:56.01[Wobin]?
17:56.23Industrial< Industrial> Need help getting ym hp bar to actually work. http://pastebin.ca/75863
17:58.03Tupladanyone seen the beta forums ? :O
17:58.04Tupladthey're wicked
17:59.18Industrialthe fault is somewhere at line 146-147
17:59.25SlaymanThrae: "Setting with defaults..." means creating a new one with default
17:59.26Slaymans
18:02.47TupladIndustrial: Non aced addons are welcome in your topic too, right ?
18:03.13Industrialin my topic?
18:03.15Industrialyes
18:03.17Tupladkk :)
18:03.23Industrialbut only the ones that arent complete trash
18:03.37Industriallike discord or nymbias perl unitframes
18:03.49Tupladyeh
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18:04.09Industrialonly a few exceptions on the ones we DONT have ont he forum just because they are very good
18:04.22Tuplad:O like ?
18:04.30Industrialimno cooldowncount
18:04.31Industrialredrange
18:04.33Industrialbagnon
18:04.38Tupladaah :)
18:04.38Industrialthats about it :P
18:04.45Tupladyeah that's some good stuff
18:05.02TupladI think Bartender is a worthy replacement for Bagnon now :) together with RedRange
18:05.08TupladBongos*
18:05.57Tupladhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1591.msg28540.html#msg28540
18:06.37IndustrialTuplad: werent you banned?
18:07.22TainHe was, and then unbanned.
18:07.38MoonWolftupload is unbanned
18:08.38Kaeltenwhats bartender?
18:08.46AmadeoThey serve you drinks
18:08.56Amadeo;)
18:09.24TupladTupload -_-"
18:09.31Industrialkek
18:09.36TupladIndustrial: Im immune to bans ! 8_8
18:10.06phyberKaelten: Bartender is cool :) action bar moving thing
18:10.18Kaeltenah
18:11.13ThraeSlayman: Right
18:12.52Tupladhttp://paradoxguild.net/gogu/gogusrl-ui.jpg is that XRaid Status fo' real ? or did he modify it ?
18:14.29ThraeSlayman: I also forgot one item for TinyTipChatLocale, "is not a valid command."
18:14.53Slaymanproblem:TinyTipChatLocale_Confirm = confirm" -- must be lowercase!
18:15.04Kaeltenyou know Industrial you have some serious bad karma
18:15.41Slaymanconfirm is best translated with bestنtigen and there u have that nasty ن which need to encoded is that usable?
18:15.51AmadeoTuplad: Gogu modified it
18:16.18AmadeoThat's my old server...he has crazy gear
18:16.23ThraeSlayman: Hmmm not sure, I run string.lower on msg, I think string.lower is region-free
18:17.17ThraeSlayman: Actually, wait, it doesn't really matter...that is fine
18:17.27Kaeltenwtf.... SetItemButtonNormalTextureVertexColor what kinda funciton name is that
18:17.44Tema blizzard function name
18:18.14Kaeltenits nucking futz is what it is
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18:19.06Neronix~whalenutshot Blizzard
18:19.07purlACTION smashes Blizzard in the nuts with a huge, yet swift whale named Ricardo
18:19.34ThraeKaelten: I guess you think TinyTipIcons_AddPvPTextureAndHookShow() is too long, too :D
18:20.11Kaeltenum...... YA!
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18:20.17Kaelten:)
18:20.30phyberKaelten: I was using that in Fizzle until I added my own borders.
18:20.34phyberand yeah, stupid name.
18:20.52KaeltenFizzle?
18:20.57ThraeI like descriptive function names. I'd make it shorter, but I couldn't think of one that told you all that.
18:21.29ThraeTinyTipIcons_AddPvPIconAndHook is a little smaller.
18:21.41phyberKaelten: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full2973.jpg
18:21.43phyberthis :)
18:21.47hyperChipmunkjust make sure you alias them to some kind of shorthand version
18:21.53phyberquality borders and durability in the character window :)
18:22.22ThraehyperChipmunk: That defeats the purpose of naming them in the long-hand version.
18:22.30Kaeltenah cool
18:22.54hyperChipmunkuntil you have to debug them
18:22.55Tupladhttp://forums.goha.ru/image.php?u=45117&dateline=1150836238 made me smile :p
18:22.59ThraePeople would look at my code and go, "wtf does tti_apiah do?!"
18:23.36ThraeHow does long function names interfer with debuging?
18:23.38phyberit's called Fizzle because I didn't want to call it AceDurabilityNumbersInYourCharacterWindow :p
18:24.00TainFo fizzle my drizzle
18:24.37hyperChipmunkcuz typing /script TinyTipIcons_AddPvPTextureAndHookShow(), edit, /rl, /script TinyTipIcons_AddPvPTextureAndHookShow() gets tiring after like, halfway through the first time
18:25.11ThraeHaha, well, I don't usually debug that way anyway ;)
18:25.27kergothtinypad is your friend
18:25.43hyperChipmunkyea, <3 tinypad
18:25.50Slaymanmmh there is no german equivalent for tooltip, that sux
18:26.00hyperChipmunkthere must be
18:26.19hyperChipmunktooltips are in every program ever
18:26.22phyberTain: my next addon will probably be called Twizzle :)
18:26.32phybergrabbing the char and using the mouse to spin him around
18:26.32Tupladhttp://www.thepalsforlife.com/images/Leeroy/KdmLeeroyCoreiel.jpg <- this is leeroy, the pic was posted on his guild's forums, the chicks are from his guild aswell :O
18:26.36phyberlike on the login screen
18:26.46ThraeSlayman: I'd expect they just call it "tooltip" in WoW, check GlobalStrings.lua
18:26.57phybermaybe I can rename AceXPBar to some kind of Izzle
18:26.59ThraeSlayman: If you've ever extracted FrameXML, that is
18:27.12Slaymani never did
18:27.19hyperChipmunksee what GTK calls 'em
18:27.36kergothTuplad: -the- leeroy?
18:27.42kergothmoo, i need caffeine
18:27.48Tupladkergoth: THE leeroy!
18:28.02Tupladhttp://www.thepalsforlife.com/images/Leeroy/LeeroyandBabe.jpg here's another one
18:28.15ThraeBy the way, any Ace2 devs in here?
18:28.28kergothno, absolutely not
18:28.50hyperChipmunkthey all hang out in #cosmos
18:28.51Thraes/in here/awake/
18:29.12TemBY FIRE BE PURGED
18:29.15kergothfor some values of "awake" perhaps
18:29.23Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1634.new#new
18:29.42ThraeWell anyway, does AceDB have a prune and migrate option?
18:29.56kergothlast night i realized i now want to start playing -two- of my old neglected alts.  i dont have enough time to play them all, damnit
18:30.19Kaeltenit could be this simple ! local texture = getglobal(slot:GetName().."NormalTexture"):SetVertexColor(1,0,1)
18:30.26Kaeltenbut I guess thats not simple to blizz...
18:30.32Kaeltenor its just 6 of one half a dozen of the other
18:32.00Kaeltenweeps?
18:32.06Industrialit wont woooork bwahahahaha :(
18:32.19kergothclad|work: acehooks hates me.
18:32.33Industrialto shed tears as an expression of emotion
18:32.34hyperChipmunkI think he's at work, dude
18:32.50kergothi know, i'm just throwing that in case he's logging
18:32.50hyperChipmunkI could be wrong
18:33.01ThraeAck
18:33.19hyperChipmunkACK
18:33.24kergothack?
18:33.32IndustrialACK!
18:33.33ThraeI accidentially messed clad|work, seems mirc ignores leading spaces in / commands
18:33.41Thraes/messed/messaged/
18:33.53Kaeltenkergoth whats wrong with acehooks, and which version?
18:34.22kergothacehooks-2.0
18:34.25kergothnot sure on the minor version
18:34.38kergothits erroring on line 147 with cannot index a nil value, which makes no sense
18:34.42Kaeltenwhats it doing that makes you think it doesn't like you?
18:34.49kergothif any of those were nil, i'd think itd have failed at :Hook() time
18:35.10kergothinstead it only errors when the function gets called
18:35.16kergothdoing a method hook
18:35.19Kaeltenhmm
18:35.35kergothself:Hook(oUF, "OnClick") = b00m
18:35.36KaeltenI think there was something that got changed with methods
18:35.57Kaeltendoes it boom onhook or on call?
18:36.05kergothon call. the Hook() is successful.
18:36.10Kaeltenhmm
18:36.15Kaeltenwhats the call line your using?
18:36.20kergothnono
18:36.26kergothno matter whats in self.OnClick
18:36.28kergothit errors
18:36.30kergothregardless of what i do
18:36.36kergothi can stub it
18:36.47kergothself:Hook(oUF, "OnClick", function() end)
18:36.53kergotherrors when oUF.OnClick is called
18:36.55kergothin acehook
18:37.01nullpuppykergoth: i hit 51 finally :) and at 190 lock picking now :)
18:37.05kergothgrats :)
18:37.21kergothnullpuppy: gettign to 175 when you no ldonger have the poison or lockpicking quest is a pain. cant level it on those chests
18:37.32kergothnullpuppy: i got mine to like 160 in stonetalon, time consuming as hell
18:37.38nullpuppyyeah
18:37.51Tainheh lockpicking is such a pain in the ass.  I'm 255 now
18:37.53nullpuppywent from 158 to here in angor fortress in badlands
18:38.00ckknighthaving issues, kergoth?
18:38.13Kaelten<+kergoth> its erroring on line 147 with cannot index a nil value, which makes no sense
18:38.23*** mode/#wowace [+v ckknight] by Kaelten
18:38.28kergothwith acehook-2.0, yeah. i tried to change the way clique's oUF support worked. made it hook oUF.OnClick, a method hook, and acehooks goes boom
18:38.51snurrehm, is there any point dl'ing addons that are already in /trunk if they are in /branches?
18:38.57CIA-703joshborke * r3678 10HealWatch/ (HealWatch.lua HealWatchEvents.lua HealWatchFrames.lua):
18:38.57CIA-7HealWatch: more stuff with labels
18:38.57CIA-7- getting closer to the labels working properly
18:38.58Tupladif (GetLocale() == "deDE") | the english locale is enGB right ?
18:39.07kergothjust give us access levels and set op/vocal to the appropriate level(s)
18:39.07ckknightTuplad, no.
18:39.08ckknightenUS
18:39.11kergoths/levels //
18:39.16Tupladaogjt =)
18:39.23snurreenglish = enGB
18:39.25snurreus = enUS
18:39.26Tuplads/aogjt/aight/
18:39.34Tupladok thanks snurre
18:39.37hyperChipmunkwow doesn't use enGB afaik
18:39.44snurrein europe it does
18:39.48hyperChipmunkah
18:39.59Slayman["ToM"]= "Showing the target of tooltips unit ",   U gotta be fucking kidding mwe
18:40.09Kaeltenautovoice is set to OFF and Level is set to level 50
18:40.12Industrialstill we have no colour :<
18:40.18KaeltenI for somereason am set to Level 49....
18:40.50kergothKaelten: as the channel owner, you should have the highest access level possible..
18:41.07KaeltenI know....
18:41.10Kaeltenits urking me
18:41.16hyperChipmunkirking
18:41.18kergothi'd pester an ircop
18:41.21Tupladwhat does afaik mean ? :\
18:41.27kergothas far as i know
18:41.30hyperChipmunk~wtf afaik
18:41.32nullpuppywas about to ask if you were identified.. but you have to be to be opped so... huh..
18:41.35Tupladaight
18:42.21snurrestupid svn requiring passwd :(
18:42.22Kaeltenls
18:42.23kergothnullpuppy: i've forgotten how to play zebrin.  i died from an equal level caster in the plaguelands.  lol
18:42.34nullpuppylol
18:43.03Kaeltenany quick easy way to get a ircop attention?
18:43.06kergoth(for everyone else, thats a level 55 rogue dying from a 55 caster mob :()
18:43.22kergothnot really, just join #freenode, do the /who to find them, and pester one that isnt idle
18:45.51CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3679 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - fix in crawlReplace
18:50.12Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1634.0.html
18:50.53ThraeSlayman: Sorry, switching back and forthe between debugging TinyTip v1.3 in WoW...huh?
18:51.22ThraeSlayman: You'd get my attention easier if you /msg me :D
18:51.36Slaymani worked around it Thrae, I'll do so in the future
18:52.07ThraeOh, and thanks for pointing out the typo, should have been "tooltip's unit"
18:53.24ThraeKaelten: What tooltip do items and doodads use? MobileGameTooltip instead of GameTooltip?
18:53.44KaeltenAs far as I know it uses GameTooltip
18:54.28ThraeKaelten: Hmmm, I hook'd GameTooltip.Show for hiding a texture I added to it, and that works with players but not doodads
18:55.18Kaeltenhmm
18:55.24kergothoh, are you fixing the tintyip but wrt the pvp rank?
18:55.34ThraeHuh?
18:55.39CIA-703cladhaire * r3680 10Clique/Plugins/Clique_MarsRaid.lua: Clique: Added a plugin for MarsRaid
18:55.51kergothwhere the pvp rank icon sticks around when mousing over things other than the unit
18:56.06ThraeI'm fixing the PvP icon appearing on Doodads, yes
18:56.07kergothokay, cool :)
18:56.18ThraeWell, trying to ;)
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18:57.49ThraeOuch, Stormwind crawls on this laptop in windowed mode
18:58.11Kaeltenarnt the decimal rgb values for rarity stored somewhere in the frame xml files?
18:58.49ThraeKaelten: I think so, but I couldn't find RAID_CLASS_COLORS
18:58.58phyberwow, Clique is quite excellent.
18:59.06kergothindeed it is
18:59.12phyberI'm using it in Molten Core on my warlock to give people Unending Breath :p
18:59.17kergothclad: acehooks go boom for me
19:00.35Kaeltenahaha its in ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS
19:03.03phyberooo
19:03.59mjcmoo
19:04.14mjcphyber: someone was doing that to me in MC last night
19:04.20mjcphyber: what server :p
19:04.20Makkgood evening
19:04.24phyberwhat's cheaper?  GetItemQualityColour(wibble), or getglobal(ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS[quality]), (or however it would look)
19:04.33CIA-703cladhaire * r3681 10Clique/Plugins/ (Clique_DHud.lua Clique_MarsRaid.lua): Clique: Added a plugin for DHud, only works on target
19:04.33phybermjc: Bloodhoof
19:04.36mjcah
19:04.39mjcmagtheridon
19:04.47cladkergoth: What do you mean it went boom for you?
19:04.58mjchas anyone tested BigWigs_RaidWarn lately?
19:05.24kergothclad: self:Hook(oUF, "OnClick", function() Ace:print("whee!") end)
19:05.26ckknightthink I figured out a fix for AceHook...
19:05.29mjcsomeone committed my oneliner to not spam if you're not raid leader or promoted
19:05.38kergothclad: when oUF.OnClick is called, line 147 gets attemtp to index a nil value in acehooks-2.0.lua
19:06.30cladThat was always a legal hook before, what changed?
19:06.31cladhgrm
19:06.39mjckergoth: I have svk mostly working now, planning on moving my interfaces dirs to it tonight =)
19:06.52kergothcool :)
19:07.04Makkwhich bar addon do you guys use?
19:07.12ckknightFuBar
19:07.18Makk*actionbar
19:07.34kergothclad: i dunno.. i wanted to fix the clique oUF stuff, because the oUFOnClick hook that oUF provides doesnt have a means to facilitate fallback to oUF's original click logic.. to make a long story short, ctrl+rightclick bypasses clique :P
19:07.35ckknightif I still played WoW, prolly Mikma's
19:07.38mjcbartender
19:07.50Makklink to both please
19:07.53mjcckknight: heh, you just write addons for it now?
19:07.56mjcMakk: svn
19:07.58ckknightyea
19:08.01Makkok
19:08.03kergothdefinately bartender out of svn
19:08.05mjcckknight: heh
19:08.11kergothyou may want to rip out the minimap bits if you use a seperate minimap addon
19:08.15MakkMikma's are Bartender?
19:08.20kergothyep
19:08.24Makkoki.
19:08.33Makkdoes it have show on mouseover functionality?
19:08.35Makk:>
19:08.47cladckknight: It looks like some of the params got renamed
19:08.50cladckknight: and misused.
19:08.51mjckergoth: have any screenshots lately?
19:09.08ckknighthrm
19:09.10kergothof anythign in particular, or..?
19:09.30cladckknight that function is quite changed from what it used to be =)
19:09.31mjchow you ahve your interface laid out :p
19:09.37ckknightyea, I know, clad
19:09.40kergothhttp://kergoth.com/images/wow_016.jpg is the last shot i took
19:09.46mjccool.
19:09.56mjc50.8MB? yuck :p
19:10.10kergoththast what happens when i hit teh AH
19:10.12kergothauctioneer loads
19:10.20kergothnormally its like 29 now that miniblizzraid isnt working
19:10.41mjcI like KC_I better... it needs a way to search its auction DB though
19:10.43cladckknight: pass obj as the first, not self.
19:10.55cladbut.. hrm.
19:10.57ckknightwhere?
19:11.06cladyeah hold on a second.
19:11.08mjcclad: any plans to make PerfectRaid work in  a party as well? :p
19:11.17cladmjc: PerfectRaid
19:11.19hastekergoth, hot tooltip, tell me more ;D
19:11.25cladmjc: err yes.. sorry was on the phone =)
19:11.29mjcclad: it's ok
19:11.31mjccool
19:11.35mjccause I like the design
19:11.47mjcbut I hate not being able to use it in a 5man
19:11.50Makk21:16:49 < haste> kergoth, hot tooltip, tell me more ;D
19:11.54Makk^2
19:12.01cladckknight: Just make obj the second argument to _hookMethod..
19:12.06kergothhaste: thats tinytip 1.29, before he yanked it
19:12.10kergothhaste: isnt it beautiful? :)
19:12.13mjcclad: how about an option to hide the PlayerFrame? I tried to do something like that with visor but to no avail
19:12.19hyperChipmunkit's moved to !TinyTip
19:12.22cladlooks like there were some changes when moving to a Mixin, and other stuff just compounded that.
19:12.22ckknightclad, that's kinda what I'm doing now
19:12.32cladckknight: *nod*
19:12.37mjchaste: rm -rf
19:12.38kergothhyperChipmunk: yeah, i renamed it back for my use..
19:12.46kergothhaste: removed. 1.29 had bugs he said, so he pulled it off of wowi
19:12.52kergothso only 1.25 is there now
19:12.52cladTinyTip has been yanked?
19:12.55Tupladanyone here understand french ?
19:13.01ckknightI'm actually saving the original function in a local, to make sure it's called on "failure"
19:13.03mjcTuplad: I do
19:13.14hastekergoth, in the mood to share it?
19:13.16Tupladmjc: check /msg
19:13.27kergothhaste: i put _everything_ in svn
19:13.36kergothhaste: http://kergoth.com/svn/wow/vendor/TinyTip/1.29
19:13.42hastethank you
19:13.44kergothnp
19:13.53hasteI forget that all the time ;)
19:13.57kergothclad: just version 1.29 was
19:14.01Tupladٍَے ûىٍ ـ ‏ù
19:14.03Tupladnew svn ? :O
19:14.24clad*shake* his personal svn
19:14.35Tupladaha :)
19:14.52ckknightit really seems like you're having an epilleptic fit, clad
19:14.54cladalright folks, I'll check back in an hour or so.. Thanks for looking at the oUF plugin kergoth =)
19:15.01cladckknight: I'm having a fit?
19:15.04cladO.o
19:15.10hyperChipmunklater c
19:15.15ckknightthe *shake*
19:15.29cladoh lol.. *shakes head* just doesn't work for me.
19:16.09Makkthink I'm gonna go back to CardBars
19:16.10Makk>_<
19:16.40Kaeltenits wonderful when blizz's functions don't work right :s
19:17.23hyperChipmunkblizz functions make me cry on the inside
19:19.21CIA-703cladhaire * r3682 10Clique/Clique.lua:
19:19.21CIA-7Clique: Any custom script that returns true will run through the final logic
19:19.21CIA-7(i.e. apply the spell is IsSpellTargeting(), and restore the target if we did a
19:19.21CIA-7ClearTarget() and only if we did a clear target. Custom scripts that don't
19:19.21CIA-7return true will have to handle this on their own. Should the behavior be
19:19.21CIA-7reversed and this be default?
19:19.55TupladCosmos is one of the first UIs that has been release for WoW ? o_O
19:20.35ThraeAlright, lemme see
19:21.04mjcjust because it was one of the first doesn't mean it's good
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19:21.17hyperChipmunkI'm doing that every time you ask a retarded question
19:21.18cladwhat do you guys think on that last question?
19:21.21TupladIm not saying it is, used it for 2 days, but was it one of the first ?
19:21.22mjcMakk: keep playing with it
19:21.27cladshould custom scripts always run through that logic?
19:21.28ThraeGameTooltip_Show(arg1,arg2,arg3,arg4) return Original_GameTooltip_Show(arg1,arg2,arg3,arg4) <-- I think this is less expensive then ...
19:21.48Makkmjc: wtb show on mouseover >_<
19:21.52TainIt is, Thrae.
19:21.56mjcMakk: planned
19:22.01Makkgood :D
19:22.02hyperChipmunkclad: don't use it; no idea what you're askin
19:22.06ThraeLooks like it just throws away extraneous variables when calling a function
19:22.14ThraeLua doesn't have polymorphism anyway, does it?
19:22.40mjcMakk: tbh after I started using bartender for a while I really discovered that I have no need for show on mouseover... ended up binding everything
19:22.52CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3683 10Ace2/AceHook-2.0/AceHook-2.0.lua: AceHook - theoretically fixed issues.
19:23.01hyperChipmunkmjc: indeed; the best action bars are no action bars
19:23.02ckknightkergoth, that should fix things
19:23.07mjcclad: clique is still misbehaving on my mage
19:23.15Makkmjc: well. I play a lock
19:23.20Makktoo many buttons :P
19:23.36Thraeckknight: Hey, does AceDB have migrate and pruning functions?
19:23.37mjcMakk:  necronomicon
19:23.38Kaeltenwhats regex for any character?
19:23.39cladhyperChipmunk there's a tiny bit of logic at the end of Clique:OnClick() that says "if the function i just ran left us with a IsSpellTargeting() hand, to SpelltargetUnit(CLique.unit) to finish the click-cast.  Also, if we used ClearTarget() to set the spell up, make sure we restore it using TargetLastTarget().  "  Right now if you click-cast on a friendly unit while you're targeting ANOTGHER friendly unit via custom script, you won't go back to the o
19:23.41mjcand clique
19:23.44hyperChipmunk*
19:23.45hyperChipmunker
19:23.47hyperChipmunk.
19:23.55ckknightThrae, yea, but I call em injection and cleanup
19:24.12ThraeWeird names, but OK ;)
19:24.18Kaelten. dioesn't seem to work
19:24.25hyperChipmunkpaste the regex
19:24.29ckknightKaelten, it's .
19:24.42ckknightfor any number of chars, .*
19:24.58hyperChipmunkand there's no such thing as too many buttons; you can page even in the default UI
19:24.59Kaeltenstrfind(link or "", "(|cff)")
19:25.01cladKaelte: Any alphanumeric or ANY character?
19:25.11KaeltenI want it to return the entire color code
19:25.14hyperChipmunk||
19:25.15cladi need to leave here.. bye
19:25.35hyperChipmunk||cff%x||r
19:25.43ckknight(|cff%x%x%x%x%x%x)
19:25.44hyperChipmunk||cff%x+||r
19:26.11hyperChipmunker, no, you're right; it's single bar
19:26.15ckknightnot qyite, hyperChipmunk
19:26.16ckknightyea
19:26.40ThraeHmmm, would he need to do string.lower on the link?
19:26.48Kaeltenwoot this works
19:26.48Kaelten|cff%x+
19:26.52hyperChipmunk|cff(%x+)|r
19:26.58ckknightit's wrong, Kaelten
19:27.17Kaeltenstrfind(link or "", "(|cff%x+)") works
19:27.21ckknightwhat if I have |cffffffff50 eggs|r
19:27.23kergothckknight: thanks for looking into the acehooks issue
19:27.30kergothi seem to run into more bugs than most lately :P
19:27.34ckknightkergoth, did it fix it or fuck it up more?
19:27.36kergothGood Thing though
19:27.39kergothdont know yet, i'm atw ork :P
19:27.42ckknightokay.
19:28.00ckknightKaelten, your regex would pick up the 50
19:28.04ckknightjust use the one I put
19:28.10ckknight|cff%x%x%x%x%x%x
19:28.11hyperChipmunkyea, %x+ assumes the user isn't a dink
19:28.25TemKaelten, you want |cff%x%x%x%x%x%x
19:28.38ThraehyperChipmunk: You mean the WoW designers with naming items, there are items that start with a number ;)
19:29.52hyperChipmunkI can't think of any items like that
19:29.55ThraeWhat SVN client does everyone use here? I was hoping for something a little lighter weight then Tortoise SVN for this laptop.
19:29.59TemhyperChipmunk, I can
19:30.13hyperChipmunkThrae: svn?
19:30.47mjchum
19:30.51Kaeltenckknight:  I'm dealing with item links
19:30.53mjcclad|work: fixed it :)
19:31.01ThraehyperChipmunk: http://www.thottbot.com/?s=5 brings up quite a few, like "52 Pound Grouper" (I've caught those before)
19:31.08ckknightKaelten, hrm. still go with the 6 %x's
19:31.09hyperChipmunkoh, right, the fishes
19:31.10Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1634.0.html
19:31.38ThraeKaelten: Take a look at http://www.thottbot.com/?s=5 and you'll realize why your regex won't work ;)
19:32.26TemhyperChipmunk, FISH
19:32.32hyperChipmunkFISHIES
19:32.35Tem"fishes" is not a fucking word
19:32.42ckknight1 fish
19:32.43ckknight2 fishes
19:32.53Temckknight fails at engrish
19:32.55hyperChipmunkfishes and loaves
19:33.22Temit's like sheep and shrimp
19:33.33Ratbert_CPand moose
19:33.34hyperChipmunkTem: I know
19:33.45Ratbert_CPand algae
19:33.52Elkanomoose? wasn't that elks? ;)
19:33.53Temthough, "fishes" is the least offensive of them all
19:34.15hyperChipmunkthe plural of moose is moosae
19:34.23ThraeI remember we used to tease one player from Brazil on a MMORPG I played when he was roleplaying and saying stuff like "meats". That became my friends' official greeting for him -- "How's the meats today?"
19:34.26hyperChipmunk/nod
19:34.32Ratbert_CPAnd Tekcub (at least, I *hope* there's no plural form)
19:34.41Temlol
19:34.59ckknightthe plural of goose is sheep.
19:35.53Kaeltenbtw on OneBag I'm breaking it up into two seperate addons just straight out
19:36.09ThraeOneBag and OneBank?
19:36.19KaeltenOneBag OneBankBag, and probably OneKeyBag
19:36.27Kaeltenalthough thats just kinda silly
19:36.45hyperChipmunkOneBag, TwoBag, RedBag, BlueBag?
19:36.56TemYou spankt it; you tank it!
19:37.00ckknightone bitch, two bitch, black bitch, blue bitch
19:37.09ThraeI think you should just keep KCI_Bank as a dependency and allow KCI_Bank to be embeddable.
19:37.26KaeltenKC_Bank can't be embeddable since it requires a SV to work right
19:37.35Kaeltenif I still had access to RegisterForSave I could do it
19:37.48ThraeAh, good point.
19:38.05KaeltenRFS would actually be awesome with the new embedable library madness
19:38.14ckknightyea...
19:38.23ckknightI got GloryLib to use a saved varable
19:38.26ckknightvariable*
19:38.34ckknightit was up to the addons to provide access
19:38.40ckknightit's crazy complicated, though
19:38.50Kaeltenya RFS would make it easy
19:38.51ckknightand definitely not kosher
19:38.52ThraeYou could have OneBag merge its bank data with KCI_Bank if you load it later, and then nil out its Bank SV.
19:39.29KaeltenRight now I'm focused on the actually Bag part,  So far it can dynamcially size, displays right, and colors border based on rarity
19:39.38ThraeNeat!
19:40.18KaeltenI need to make it where you can set colors for ammo/soul... and the other subbag types
19:40.26Kaeltenalso want to add the ability to just not show them
19:40.27ckknightKaelten, did you see my AceOO tutorial?
19:40.51KaeltenI think I glanced at it briefly
19:40.58ThraeI'd awaiting new OneBag for 1.11, Bagnon has a lot of options I don't care about.
19:41.05ckknightalright, what'd you think?
19:41.23KaeltenIt looked good but I didn't read it in depth to be honest
19:41.38Kaeltenthrae: I'm worried about adding in too many features
19:41.46ckknightokay
19:41.47ThraeKaelten: Since you can't have more then one KeyChain, then what would KeyBag do exactly?
19:41.47Kaeltensince there are a few things I want to do that Turan didn't
19:41.54ckknightI need to write an AceAddon tutorial
19:42.09KaeltenThrae: I really don't know :s
19:42.09Ratbert_CPbouncing to get outside of the proxy...
19:42.28KaeltenI probably just need to add it in as part of OneBag just to make it easy for it to show
19:42.56ThraeWell I use stuff like OneBag and Bagnon to have one bag interface -- that's it. I don't care about coloring for rarity, etc. because I use MrPlow for that anyway.
19:43.08ThraeYeah, like Bagnon does.
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19:43.43Kaeltenwell one thing I'm looking at doing is having the bags "fold" out on one side for easy arangements
19:44.07ThraeAnchoring the default Bag Bars to OneBag like Bagnon does would be cool too.
19:44.17Kaeltenya.
19:44.35mjcum
19:44.36mjcer
19:44.38mjchum
19:44.40KaeltenI'm just looking at ways to do  these different things that are intuitive without being clunky
19:44.45Kaeltenbut usefull
19:44.59mjcyou can't use clique on yourself by clicking on yourself =( has to be on the unitframe
19:45.48CIA-703ckknight 07TestSuite * r3684 10Ace2/ (3 files): Ace2/TestSuite - updaed tests
19:46.44hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/hCEngInv.png <---until another bag addon can give me something this clean and organized, I don't see myself ever switching =\
19:47.13mjckergoth: omnicc?
19:47.27ThraehyperChipmunk: Taken a look at PlowKing recently?
19:47.36kergothmjc: cooldown count for the actionbuttons
19:47.42mjcaha
19:47.57CIA-703ckknight 07TestSuite * r3685 10Ace2/ (AceLibrary-version-6.lua AceOO-LibraryClass-3.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added stuff
19:48.24hyperChipmunkplowking doesn't auto-shape
19:48.28ThraeEngInv is still around 100-200KB/s when gaining an item or anytime else it needs to sort, PlowKing is a bit better.
19:48.58hyperChipmunkit has no single-window
19:49.07hyperChipmunkso when items change, they overlap
19:49.13ckknightokay, what should determine when Ace2 reaches "Beta" status, which means that addons will be able to release to addon sites and such
19:49.33hyperChipmunkand you can't change the ratio of the frames' widthxheight
19:49.35mjcminiblizzraid was fixed?
19:49.58Kaeltenwe're sorting out most of the bugs now, however new ones might show up
19:50.27ckknightthe most hideous ones will involve the upgrade path and AceLibrary
19:50.35ckknightand I think I got most of that stuff tacked down
19:50.44hyperChipmunkI really don't want a 4x4 square for my ammo and no way to hide it
19:50.47Kaeltena little more documentation wouldn't hurt.  all in all I think we just should wait a little bit more maybe go into beta this weekend or next week
19:50.53CIA-703ratbert * r3686 10BagBoy2/ (6 files):
19:50.53CIA-7BagBoy2: Initial import
19:50.53CIA-7Basic rules processing working
19:50.56mjchyperChipmunk: agreed
19:51.15kergothi dunno, i'm pretty happy with bagnon + mrplow for now
19:52.22hyperChipmunkit almost cuts it; I'm going to play with running TheWorks OnHide
19:52.39ThraeVisor fun
19:52.41Kaeltenhrm is it bad that memory use jumps up when you move items around?
19:52.49mjcKaelten: stopthelagness
19:52.54mjcotherwise, nothing you can do
19:53.11Kaeltenmjc thats actually a mouse hover bug fix
19:53.24ThraePlowKing is still better then EngInv's memory usage
19:53.45mjcbut it cuts mrplow's usage while moving items by a lot
19:53.46Kaeltenwell I'm just testing my new OneBag, and memory usage jumps up when you move an item
19:53.56snurregivf PlowKing with EngInv's interface
19:54.12ThraeKaelten: Interesting, do you have any sorting going on?
19:54.26Kaeltenno, there is processing on BagUpdate though
19:54.31Kaeltenhmm I wonder if I can cut any of that down
19:54.39kergothPK just needs more intelligent placement / optional autoarranging of its windows
19:54.40kergothimo
19:54.41ThraeKaelten: Ahhh, take a look at Tekkub's SpecialEvents lib
19:54.59ThraeKaelten: He initially wrote that JUST for BAG_UPDATE, which can get fired 1 bazillion times when only 1 is needed
19:55.23Kaeltenwell problem is BagUpdate is also the only event that reliably gets fired (or so it seems) when you switch your bags around.
19:55.24hyperChipmunkkergoth: agreed
19:55.37ThraeYeah, exactly
19:56.47Kaeltenhmm lit seems that a lot of that mem usage is caused by blizz's update function.
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19:56.53mjcyes
19:57.01cladnsfw (depending on your work): http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/SporkHead/teenagegirl.jpg
19:57.02cladhahaha
19:57.03cladhaha
19:57.04cladhi
19:57.20ThraeKaelten: Yeah, that's what Tekkub tried to fix in SpecialEvents. It's embeddable.
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19:57.49Kaeltenthrae that won't fix the issue I'm having thrae
19:58.02KaeltenI'm not just processing some info about items, I'm writing a bagmod
19:59.08ThraeWell the code might at least give you an idea ;)
19:59.53Tupladlolz @clad
20:00.08mjcclad: clique works on mym age now
20:00.29mjcclad: I wanted to set middle click as an oh shit iceblock button but apparently I have to target something :(
20:00.47mjccan I just use a custom lua for that? can't think of how to do it though
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20:01.02CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3687 10Ace2/AceOO-2.0/AceOO-2.0.lua: AceOO - slight cleanup
20:01.03CIA-703thrae * r3688 10!TinyTip/: Deleted trunk/!TinyTip
20:01.28hyperChipmunkthat'd be easier to do with just a binding
20:01.35hyperChipmunkno need to use an entire addon
20:01.46ThraeYeah, just make a macro.
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20:02.38cladYou dont need to target anything to trigger iceblock
20:03.21mjcclad: yes but middle clicking on the ground doesn't cast iceblock w/ clique
20:03.43cladClique doesn't grab clicks in the worldframe.. you'd want a binding for that like reccomended.
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20:05.22cladmeh ihate this
20:05.22cladok
20:05.23cladback to work
20:06.27Kaeltenhrm, I hate looped math/logic
20:07.51Thraefor i = 1,121,1 do sortt = {} for j = 1,50,1 do if blah then tinsert(sortt, foo[j]) end end end
20:08.47Kaeltenheh
20:11.05AmadeoThrae: So no more !TinyTip? Just TinyTip?
20:11.20ThraeAmadeo: Indeed.
20:11.27ThraeOne of the reasons I pulled 1.29.
20:11.31Amadeokk
20:11.49AmadeoWhat does the ! do? Just make WoW load it before other non-wildcard addons?
20:12.40Elkanodoesn't work :) WoW doesn't load these addons first... :/
20:12.55hyperChipmunknothing at all
20:13.14AmadeoI have at least three addons that have the ! though
20:13.28hyperChipmunkoh, it does do something
20:13.30kergothit depends on the os/install.  relies on the os providing in alphabetic order, which isnt guaranteed, even on windows boxes
20:13.41AmadeoI see
20:13.57hyperChipmunkit makes me pissed off having to type \! at the beginning and tabcompleting wrong
20:14.00kergothAmadeo: they were attempting to get themselves loaded first, before everything else, but it isnt reliable
20:14.01Amadeohaha
20:14.03kergothhahah
20:14.24Amadeokergoth: I was also wondering what happens when too many addons have ! and it needs to load before those :P
20:14.36hyperChipmunkAmadeo: oh naturally, !!
20:14.42hyperChipmunk!!Addons ftw
20:14.44Amadeohaha
20:14.59hyperChipmunkwhich is even more fun
20:16.50hasteI renamed my warmup !!!!! it was painfull to rename it back :<
20:17.10hyperChipmunk...
20:17.11hasteI'm also very tired right now *points at sentence above*
20:17.36Amadeohaste has been up all night finishing up oUF2
20:17.46hasteno, I've been all day at work :p
20:17.47hyperChipmunkif that were true, it wouldn't sux
20:17.52Amadeoooooh!
20:18.50Amadeohaste has been at work all day ignoring his job just to finish up oUF2
20:18.56ThraeHonestly, I don't understand the allure of AceLocale
20:19.32hasteAmadeo, I don't think they have a computer in the freezer
20:19.41Kaeltenwell thats a hackish way of doing it but it works.
20:19.48Amadeohaste: Someone tried to snuff you!?
20:20.05SlaymanThrae, received my msg ? u need to replace the  ن ِ ü ك  with their equivalent encoding of course
20:20.50Elkano/cheer for German Umlauts ;)
20:21.00kergoth"with their equivalent encoding"?
20:21.01SlaymanI do !
20:21.13Slaymanevery day a say a prayer for them !
20:21.24hyperChipmunkyea, you have to use \### for wow special characters
20:21.38ThraeSlayman: No =/ Did you try to send me your entire translation as a msg?
20:21.38Kaeltenhrm when MrPlow was running my mem use got up to ~250kb/s is that more than average?
20:21.43kergothif the .lua is utf8, that shouldnt be necessary.
20:21.45kergothif its something else, sure
20:21.49mjcKaelten: no
20:21.51Slayman. /msg Thrae http://pastebin.ca/75946
20:22.02mjcbut I swear mine only goes up to 30ish with STL
20:22.06hasteutf8 is your friend
20:22.10TemKaelten, I get worried when mine goes up to 40
20:22.11kergothindeed it is
20:22.20hyperChipmunkI thought I read somewhere that wow didn't like it
20:22.23hasteI even use it on IRC
20:22.35ThraeI save my files with GVIM, so whatever that uses. Probably compatible.
20:22.36hyperChipmunkbut agreed, <3 utf-8
20:22.37hastewhich also pisses of every norwegian who hasn't updated their mIRC ;)
20:22.46mjchaste: screw them
20:22.47ThraeSlayman: Ah thanks...darn MIRC
20:23.05kergothhaste: i want http://www.cafepress.com/nucleartacos.26746951
20:23.10hastemjc, yeh, that's my usual solution
20:23.24SlaymanThrae: forgot to delete a line: updated here:  http://pastebin.ca/75946
20:23.25Makkrhm
20:23.27mjchaste: their dresses look nice on your bedroom floor eh
20:23.28Makkon tinytip
20:23.35hyperChipmunkha that's great shirt
20:23.38Makkwhat's the [RX] thing?
20:23.55SlaymanRank Number
20:23.57Makkah
20:23.59Slaymani suppose
20:24.03Makkoje, I just saw
20:24.18mjckergoth: heh
20:24.44ThraeSlayman: Mmm, excellent work.
20:24.56ThraeHeh, is [R3] too ambigious?
20:25.16ThraeI would think people would get the idea after the 3rd guy they mouse-over.
20:25.23TainOh I changed mine to have R3 after the player name, by the way.  I think it looks much better.
20:25.24Makk:P
20:25.33kergothi like it, the icons are nice, but i never remember what icon is what rank number
20:25.46KaeltenAwaybe back later guys
20:26.02hyperChipmunktake care
20:26.07SlaymanThrae: not to me. I furthermore give no guarantee that this translation is free of error, it should be, and it should be understandable. I had a hard time on tooltip and tooltips unit those really suck
20:26.17[Wobin]KaeltenAway: are you running PlowKing at the same time as MrPlow? =0
20:26.45ThraeSlayman: Doesn't German have an "of" relationship, such as "Unit Of Tooltip"?
20:26.50AmadeoWhere can I get StopTheLagness?
20:27.05hasteI miss my healthbar, on the tooltip
20:27.05hyperChipmunk[Wobin]: make PK look like http://69.14.77.214/hCEngInv.png and I will sing praises to your name forevermore
20:27.45Tupladgief full size screen
20:27.52Tupladfull screen screenshot*
20:27.57ElkanoThrae, you mean genitive? get's hard: "Einheit des Tooltips"
20:28.01Slaymanyeah that's what i used there but it might be ambigious (ambigious??) as there are multiple possible words for this
20:28.26hyperChipmunkSlayman: ~spell is your friend
20:28.32hyperChipmunk~spell ambigious
20:29.04ckknightambiguous.
20:29.07ThraeSlayman: If you're unsure, you could check GlobalStrings.lua and use whatever they use. Even if Blizzard is wrong, at least you'd be consistent!
20:29.15Makkomg :P
20:29.25MakkThat PvP rank icon has to be scaled down
20:29.34Makkcan you set it to scale instead of true?
20:29.50Industrial<sneaky_commercial> http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1634.0.html </sneaky_commercial>
20:29.51ThraeYes, I fixed that in my version, which I am uploading as soon as I figure out this "SmartSVN".
20:30.00mjcIndustrial: lol
20:30.07Slaymanfirst, i use the enGB client myself. Second i don't know where to obtain this lua
20:30.29ThraeenGB?
20:30.42Industrialenglish
20:30.44Industrialgreat britain
20:30.45Industrial:P
20:30.46Slaymanlike enUS just enGB
20:30.47ThraeAhhh
20:31.07ThraeI guess the Irish would have been offended at enUK ;)
20:31.11AmadeoIndustrial: Where did your Gnome get that propeller hat?
20:31.17IndustrialPropeller hat?
20:31.20Industrialthat ym hair!
20:31.24Amadeohaha
20:31.26Industrialthat's my*
20:31.46hyperChipmunklol
20:31.48Industrialdont you make fun of my hair youngman!
20:32.31AmadeoYou dye each strand a different color!
20:33.13ThraeDammit, SmartSVN did a Checkout into the TinyTip directory instead of an Export
20:33.21Industrialouch
20:33.43Makkdoes MiniBlizzRaid work?
20:34.07Industrialdo undead make good priests?
20:34.19MoonWolfokaaay
20:34.20MoonWolfwhat happen
20:34.22kergothIndustrial: yeah, the priest racial ability for undead is very nice
20:34.28MoonWolfwhen did kergoth talk in wowi ?
20:34.33Industrialkergoth: i was kidding
20:34.37kergothi rejoined a while back to pester End
20:34.38ThraeUndead make good Shadow / PvP Priests
20:34.41kergothabout yatlas
20:34.49MoonWolfhehe
20:35.08CodayusIf you roll a horde priest, go undead.
20:35.18CodayusIf you roll an alliance priest, go dwarf.
20:35.28kergoththe troll racial isnt bad either, but not as good as undead
20:35.31Amadeokergoth: In yatlas, if you mouse-over areas in a map, will it give you a tooltip or something giving the name of that area?
20:35.32SlaymanAbsolutely Thrae, an additional dot is by far the best racial for shadow priests
20:35.45IndustrialWhere can i see these racials?
20:35.47Industrialthe NE one sucks
20:35.49Slaymans/additional/addition/
20:35.58CodayusAnything else is suboptimal at this time.  I rolled a human priest, and I like it, and they do have some good points, but I knew going in that I wouldn't be as good as a dwarf priest...and I'm not.
20:36.00Slaymani cann tell em all Industrial
20:36.05ThraeSlayman: Your first spelling was correct.
20:36.07AmadeoIndustrial: Dwarf or Undead, it's all you need to know :)
20:36.26IndustrialSlayman: if you'd like
20:36.27Slaymani read  "in additional" i hate my eyes
20:36.28Industrial::
20:37.11MoonWolf14"sucks!
20:37.54CodayusIndustrial: The differences are the normal racials, plus priests get two racial spells above that.  Sadly, 90% suck, and 10% are game breakingly good.  :-)
20:38.13Codayushttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-priest&t=125973&p=1&tmp=1#post125973
20:38.23CodayusThe 3rd question has the info on the priest racials.
20:38.40kergothAmadeo: no, but it has points for specific landmarks, like orgrimmar, other towns, etc.  might be sufficient if you add more to it
20:38.58SlaymanIndustrial: Alliance:  Human: Desperate Prayer(Instant self heal for free 10min CD) Feedback (auraesque buff burning the attackers mana if the priest is hit)
20:39.29Makk16.3 MB used
20:39.36hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/hCui.png whoever wanted a full screenshot
20:39.42Makkin raid, 2.5KB/s increase
20:39.46ThraeDammit, no more SmartSVN.
20:39.49Amadeokergoth: gotcha
20:39.55SlaymanDwarf: Desperate Prayer(same as human), Fear Ward( immune to fear, buff ,30sec CD 10min active)
20:39.57AmadeoSmartSVN isn't very...Smart...eh?
20:39.58CodayusUh...correction, the link I just posted is wrong...it has the pre 1.10 info listed still.
20:40.09ThraeSmartSVN is TOO smart.
20:40.16kergothyatlas needs a full world view, so i can see my party members and raid members across both continents at once
20:40.32Hakker04(haste04): you got a sec
20:41.02ThraeYeah I like yatlas, but I also like WoWKB from MetaMap, because I often forget where I saw a mob.
20:41.13ThraeI don't mind the extra memory usage from the data collection.
20:41.30kergothwowkb looks nifty, but doesnt belong in metamap, damnit! *shakes fist*
20:41.35phyberok, addon idea for somebody!
20:41.52phyberat Garr, mosing over his adds should give them each a RaidIcon
20:41.55phybermousing
20:41.59Hakkerdunno what's wrong with metamap?
20:42.01SlaymanNelf: Starshards(channeled Dot (arcane) increasing damge with time channeled), Elunes grace (self buff, reduces Ranged dmg increases Dodge by 10%) 5min CD)
20:42.01Codayusphyber: paintball
20:42.04Codayusphyber: been done
20:42.07phyberCodayus: yay!
20:42.09hyperChipmunkwow, phyber what a great idea
20:42.10Codayus:-)
20:42.15hyperChipmunkit's a shame nobody's done it yet
20:42.27phybersomebody forsaw this conversation.
20:42.28CodayusI was halfway through writing an addon to do it but I was beaten to the punch.  *cry*
20:42.32hyperChipmunkyou should write one...call it, say, PaintBall
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20:42.46ThraeHakker: MetaMap does things a lot of other addons do better, except it also has WoWKB which isn't updated anymore.
20:43.02mjcHakker: it's huge?
20:43.03hasteWoWKB?
20:43.08hyperChipmunkomg someone uses metamap?
20:43.16hyperChipmunklike, for real and not jokingly?
20:43.23Hakkeryes I use it
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20:43.28hyperChipmunkdear God why
20:43.41hasteI ask again: WoWKB?
20:43.41AmadeoI use MetaMap, because it's lighter weight than Atlas :)
20:43.45hyperChipmunkwhat in the world would you need wiht that many features
20:43.48Hakkersame
20:43.57Hakkerand wowkb ;)
20:44.00CodayusMetaMap is LIGHTER than Atlas?  oO
20:44.02mjcI want yatlas to work with instances
20:44.06AmadeoCodayus: Yeah
20:44.12Hakkerthe integrated notes
20:44.14Codayus...how?
20:44.18Codayusmjc: Agreed.
20:44.20AmadeoWell, filesize is about a meg smaller at least
20:44.24ThraeMetaMap is not lighter weight then Atlas + CT_MapMod
20:44.26SlaymanHorde: Undead: Touch of Weakness(selfenchant ur next melee weakens the enemys dmg by x) Devouring Plague(DoT, Disease, expensive, but hurting)
20:44.32hyperChipmunkmaybe diskspace
20:44.40ThraeAmadeo: Maybe you downloaded the high-res version of Atlas
20:44.43kergothdevouring plague is -awesome- in pvp
20:44.44hyperChipmunkbut diskspace is cheap
20:44.46Amadeoisn't it loading that stuff up when you use it?
20:44.48Hakkerwell it is than mapnotes + atlas
20:45.05ThraeAtlas also has boss loot tables, which MetaMap doesn't have yet.
20:45.17AmadeoThrae: I thought MetaMap did
20:45.19kergothdoes it?  screw that, i'll rely on mendy
20:45.22AmadeoYou just have to load em
20:45.22Hakkerloottables = menedeleev
20:45.27mjcmendy?
20:45.28mjcah
20:45.29mjcyeah
20:45.49SlaymanTroll: Shadowguard (Shamans lightning shield with shadow dmg) Hex of Weakness(like UD touch of Weakness but as a castable debuff)
20:45.59Slaymanthat's all until BL comes out
20:46.09Hakkerhaste how could I add MT hp to the dire profile of the MT frames?
20:46.22hasteHakker, what?
20:46.41AmadeoAll I know is Atlas is 2.92MB compressed, and MetaMap is 2.37MB compressed...so it's less than a meg, but I find it strange that MetaMap does about 200 more things, but Atlas is bigger
20:46.46IndustrialSlayman: k
20:46.46[Wobin]hyperChipmunk: PlowKing development is on hold until I get it shoved into AceOO
20:46.53Hakkerwell alot of my guildies like to see the MT health in MT window
20:46.53kergothwho cares about disk space usage?
20:46.55kergothi certainly dont
20:47.10hasteHakker, aah, you are so talking to the wrong author now
20:47.12Amadeokergoth: My MiB doesn't change with MetaMap in there or not
20:47.13[Wobin]Hakker: Feh =)
20:47.21HakkerDire is probably the best profile to use then so how could I add it
20:47.25kergothAmadeo: use warmup.
20:47.29[Wobin]Hakker: If the healers don't have another addon watching that health, they should have =P
20:47.31ThraeThe main problem I have with MetaMap is that it has no DB compression what-so-ever, even though its DB can get amazingly huge.
20:47.37Amadeokergoth: You mean !!!!Warmup!!!!!
20:47.38Amadeo:)
20:47.44[Wobin]!!!
20:47.58kergothi refuse to use metamap on principle.  all that shit should never have been folded into what started out as a nice simple effective addon
20:47.58hyperChipmunk!!!!!!!!!!!!!Warmup
20:48.03kergothtalk about feature creep
20:48.07ThraeI sent an email to MetaMap's creator with an algorithmn and he never responded.
20:48.18hyperChipmunkkergoth: I hear that
20:48.28Industrialkergoth: agreed
20:48.29AmadeoI'll compare Atlas to MetaMap with warmup in a sec!
20:48.39ckknightwe should make a bunch of Ace2 stuff to replace MetaMap.
20:48.47ElkanoAmadeo, code has almost no size, especialy when compressed. all the textures (especially the new hires instance maps) are what makes the atlas archive that big
20:49.06[Wobin]DesperatePrayer is great, btw
20:49.08mjchell yeah it is
20:49.15[Wobin]I can't recall the cooldown, but it's fantastic now
20:49.17kergothneed a teeny addon to manage pulling up the battlefield minimap outside of bg, not something bloated like bfc
20:49.28mjcckknight: yatlas + metamap + instance maps aced = win
20:49.28CodayusDesperate Prayer is solid.  Fear Ward is imba.  All other alliance priest racials are useless wastes of mana.  :-)
20:49.34[Wobin]yeah
20:49.37Codayus10 min cooldown now.
20:49.39hyperChipmunkstarshards BOOM!
20:49.46Hakkerwell anyone who could help me out then?
20:49.49[Wobin]Starshards are PRETTY
20:49.57Thraeckknight: I missed your previous answer if you gave it -- what does AceLocale do again?
20:50.02kergothbetween teh battlefield minimap, yatlas, and atlas, i'm pretty happy.  just need to enhance yatlas a bit
20:50.04ckknightuser-defined BabbleLib
20:50.12CodayusI use it all the time, esepcially in 10 mans.  It's like a free health potion that's up almost whenever I need it, and doesn't start my mana pot/fire pot cooldown.  What's NOT to like?
20:50.16Thraemjc: We really just need to yank out WoWKB from MetaMap, that's the only worthwhile thing in there.
20:50.18Codayuser...20 mans, I meant.
20:50.18ckknightfor localizing your addons
20:50.25ckknighthere's example usage
20:50.37kergothThrae: wowkb started outu independent of metamap.. i presume you want his fixes to it though
20:50.40ckknightlocal L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.0"):new("MyAddon")
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20:50.56ckknightassert(L"English text") == "Deutsche text"
20:50.58[Wobin]ps phyber: Just updated PaintBall to assign targets to tanks and announce it to raid
20:50.59Thraekergoth: Yeah, exactly. WoWKB last time I checked was even more sloppy then it was in MetaMap.
20:51.06kergothouch
20:51.16[Wobin]What -is- WoWKB?
20:51.18AmadeoBiggest addon: FuBar (2792 KiB)!
20:51.21SilverShadowhey guys.. wanna take a lot at something really odd?
20:51.24CodayusI assume it's some sort of knowledge base.
20:51.26[Wobin]Sure
20:51.27mjccorkfu should do self buffs first
20:51.37[Wobin]Corkfu should do manashield -last- =P
20:51.37SilverShadowsomeone posted this over on curse, asking for help: http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-en&ThreadID=48455
20:51.39ThraeWoWKB is a knowledge base of NPC data.
20:51.40kergothAmadeo: its just due to the libraries.  chances are you've got other addons using them too
20:51.49ThraeIt gathers them on mouseover.
20:51.51CodayusAmadeo: That's a tricky number to interpret.  It's counting libraries which are needed by other addons.
20:51.52[Wobin]ah, like Mobinfo?
20:52.03SilverShadowsorta broke my brain trying to think it would work.. but i guess it would.
20:52.08CodayusOr are probably needed.  <shrug>
20:52.14ThraeYes...so I guess you could say WoWKB is MI2 + MI2 Browser
20:52.26ThraeHmmm, maybe I should switch to MI2 + MI2 Browser
20:52.27ElkanoI hope tekkub finds some time to finaly ajust CorkFu for deDE :/
20:53.09[Wobin]DAmn the forums are timing out on me
20:53.11ThraeEspecially because people keep asking for MI2 "support" in TinyTip (doesn't MI2 give you huge amounts of information?)
20:53.24[Wobin]I only use it for hp
20:53.36kergothdoesnt it add bits to the tooltip via the normal mechanisms, so you'd support it automatically? or does it do something magic?\
20:53.39Amadeook, MetaMap is 2510 KiB, let me try Atlas now
20:53.51[Wobin]What's the gist of the matter, Silver?
20:53.55Thraeckknight: But what are the less intuitive features?
20:54.04kergothi'd love to see yatlas support atlas instance maps.  thatd be slick
20:54.07Thrae[Wobin]: I use WatchDog as my frames, they have that functionality built-in.
20:54.14Hakkeratlas itself is about 1800 I believe
20:54.22SilverShadowLooks like he's trying to make a mod that is literally storing addons in his SV file. He's getting a fatel error and disconnects him.
20:54.31ThraeI think DUF also has that built-in too if you're the man that likes his frames pretty and pretty resource intensive ;)
20:54.34SilverShadowIs that.. even possible??
20:54.36[Wobin]Storing addons?
20:54.50[Wobin]like saving the whole object?
20:54.52SilverShadowBasically just a bunch of scripts..
20:55.09SilverShadowI'm not sure.. he's got the code and the error posted on the EU wow forums..
20:55.19ckknightThrae, with regards to?
20:55.30ThraeI love a minimalist UI that gives me all the info I need. The rest of the stuff just gets in the way of WoW itself, which is a LOT prettier.
20:55.36Amadeoargh, you win! Atlas is 737 KiB...but isn't that just zone loading time?
20:55.47kergoth?
20:55.55SilverShadow"When trying to log out, the program crashes with Fatal Error. Memory Dump contains references to <AddOn>.lua.bak "
20:56.04kergoth737KiB isnt a measurement of time
20:56.10SilverShadowthat's the error he's getting.. but he deltes the .bak file and it still happens.
20:56.15ThraeAmadeo: That's only initial memory usage, yes. But unless you have MapNotes and WoWKB functionality disabled, I can't see how Metamap would ever win over Atlas.
20:56.57ElkanoAtlas has AtlasLoot *hides*
20:57.05SilverShadowhere is his original post on Cruse: http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?p=32294
20:57.28Industrial<sneaky_commercial> http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1634.0.html </sneaky_commercial>
20:57.29SilverShadowThe only reason why i'm asking is the whole concept for it is really.. interesting.
20:57.48Thraeckknight: Well, what's so bad about if GlobalLocaleThingy and GlobalLocaleThingy == "deDE" // localized text GlobalLocaleThingy = nil end
20:58.01[Wobin]Edit: Adding a single space in the beginning of the above variable prevented the crash.
20:58.05AmadeoFuBar_MailFu is 548 KiB
20:58.17ckknightThrae, AceLocale handles the icky details for you, is all.
20:58.43AmadeoThrae: But then I have to use Atlas along with some mod that puts my map in a frame instead of taking up the whole screen!
20:58.57kergothAmadeo: teh battlefield minimap can be used outside of bg...
20:59.05kergothand yatlas can be made transparent..
20:59.07ThraeI guess I haven't coded an addon yet where I have icky details with localization ;)
20:59.09kergoth:)
20:59.14SilverShadow[Wobin]: Hrm.. he never updated his post on curse... still.. the concept of it is quite interesting.
20:59.18kergothhrm, need food
20:59.31ckknightThrae, with AceLocale, it makes it supremely easy to localize your code
20:59.33Amadeokergoth: When you mouseover stuff in the BFMM, will it show a tooltip or something?
20:59.39Hakkercould anyone tell me how I can add HP bars for the assigned MT in oRa maintankframes dire profile?
20:59.42ckknightyou just put L before all your strings
20:59.46[Wobin]serialising addons
21:00.11ckknightL"Here is some text"
21:00.23ckknightand it'll all be peachy
21:00.29Amadeohm
21:00.44Thraeckknight: Uhh, but I still need to set what each word translates to, right?
21:00.44AmadeoI'm Shift-M'ing! But no Battlefield Minimap :(
21:00.44kergothAmadeo: iirc it does, but only for player/party/raid.  not sure.
21:00.46ckknightThrae, right
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21:00.54ckknightthink of the Furriners!
21:00.57Thraeckknight: Oh wait, AceLocale goes by word or by sentence?
21:01.01[Wobin]Tekkub?
21:01.03ckknightsentence
21:01.06ckknightphrase
21:01.06Thraes/sentence/phrase/
21:01.08ckknightwhatever
21:01.10ckknightyou want
21:01.18hyperChipmunkwhatever's in the quotes, I imagine
21:01.38ckknightL"My dog's name is Rover" == "Meine Hunde heisst Rover"
21:01.45ckknightHund*
21:01.50ThraeI'm already a string.format whore, though. *grins*
21:01.55ckknightwhatever
21:01.59kergothwhats the syntax to define the localization vs just using it?
21:02.11ThraeI really should put local strformat = string.format somewhere
21:02.34AmadeoDoes anyone use KC_Items only for the Item/Link database, with everything else off?
21:02.40ckknightfunction MyAddon_Locale_deDE() return { ["My dog's name is Rover"] = "Meine Hund heisst Rover" } end
21:02.46kergothi like being a string.format whore. and % in python.  gets you out of the habit of doign string concatenations all over the place
21:02.47hyperChipmunkwhy not just use format?
21:03.25ckknightfunction MyAddon_Locale_enUS() return { ["My dog's name is Rover"] = "My dog's name is Rover" } end
21:03.28TainI'm using both KCI and Auctioneer, Amadeo.
21:03.46ckknightthen you call local L = AceLocale:new("MyAddon")
21:03.53ThraeDoes Auctioneer have some uber new abilities?
21:04.02kergothi use itemdb for an in game db, then i use either packrat or sellvalue for sell values, and auctioneer
21:04.03ckknightL"My dog's name is Rover"
21:04.05kergothyes
21:04.14ckknightI'll write up a tutorial later
21:04.16AmadeoTain: I've been using KCI for everything, but I think I want to only use it for the item linking and such now...if I turn the other features off, is it still going to load the database for all the scans I've done and such?
21:04.21kergothit has new tabs at teh AH to search for deals, to post an item and at the same time immediately view your competition, ..
21:04.28kergothincredibly useful
21:04.32Amadeohm
21:04.49TainYeah kergoth those new Auctioneer tabs are insanely useful.
21:04.52Amadeokergoth: I really like how I can type item links with KCI right into chat rather than looking up the item
21:04.57kergothyeah, that is cool
21:05.23CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3690 10Ace2/AceLocale-2.0/AceLocale-2.0.lua: AceLocale - changed _Locals_ to _Locale_
21:05.24ThraeAlthough that feature is still broken in KCI =/
21:05.26TainThat's why I use both. Amadeo I just started with Auctioneer so I didn't try wiping my KCI database.
21:05.39TainSince I wanted to make sure I could go back to it if necessary.
21:05.45AmadeoThrae: Which?
21:06.02pagefaultawesome
21:06.05pagefaultI can transfer off my realm
21:06.11AmadeoI was thinking about trying out WoWEcon, see how accurate it is for my server
21:06.34hyperChipmunkThrae: use the safe mode
21:07.11kergothigor's mass auction is awesome too.. that coupled with auctioneer and auction filter plus, and i'm a happy moneymaking auction monkey
21:07.14ThraehyperChipmunk: Oh there's a safe mode?
21:07.22hyperChipmunkyea, so you type $[item link]
21:07.34hyperChipmunkand you don't have to worry about normal ['s in chat
21:07.37CIA-703ckknight 07TestSuite * r3691 10Ace2/ (8 files): Ace2/TestSuite - changed _Locals_ to _Locale_
21:08.02ThraehyperChipmunk: Ah thanks, didn't know that.
21:08.34AmadeoHm
21:08.39AmadeoAuctioneer is pretty big, isn't it?
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21:09.03maiahmm. wowwiki removed the old widgetAPI, and most of the 1.11 api isn't documented. anyone know how to set a laver of a frame? I can add the layer to CreateFontString as second argument, but for CreateFrame?
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21:09.22Icerothnnngghhh this is so stupid.. why are people so tied down to ctra? people are reluctant to try anything new that doesn't say "ctra" but every one in our raid group that has tried bigwigs has instantly fallen in love with it
21:09.52[Wobin]technically ora can't replace ctra completely
21:09.55TainAuctioneer is fairly big.  But to me it's worth it with what it does right now.
21:09.59ThraeInstead of providing ALL of Auctioneer's features in KCI, it'd be cool if Kaelten hook'd Auctioneer's SV functions to use KCI's database.
21:10.26Icerothwell the point is, they can use bigwigs _with_ ctra
21:10.41ThraeThat way he doesn't have to worry about keeping up with Auctioneer's features, and we get the huge memory savings of KCI.
21:10.46TainYeah, but (and I could be talking out my ass from faulty memory here) I think KCI and Auctioneer save different information.
21:11.34kergothauctioneer remembers all the info from the previous scan. kci just holds the averages and such
21:11.40TainOh kergoth: also add to the AH suite Fizzwidget's Shopping List.  I *love* that thing.
21:11.42kergoththats why kci catn provide the auctioneer style functionality
21:11.45[Wobin]anyhoo. night
21:11.50kergothTain: ah, good idea
21:11.56hyperChipmunksweet dreams wob
21:12.01AmadeoWhere does KCI store its data? in an .lua in SavedVariables?
21:12.15hyperChipmunkthat's the only place you can store data
21:12.18TainAs soon as you finish a scan it lists out the curent prices of anything you have on your list, and whether they're above/below/equal to average prices.
21:12.19Amadeohaha, oh :D
21:12.34maiaanyone available with frame lua knowledge please? :)
21:12.52Mikmasquirrel please!
21:14.58hyperChipmunkframe:SetDrawLayer
21:15.21MikmaMakk: does not have yet, since i need to learn how to use Metrognome first
21:15.46kergothTain: ooooh, thats gonna be so nice, especially for my enchanter :P
21:17.29maiahyperChipmunk: hmm. bar = CreateFrame("StatusBar", nil, frame); bar:SetDrawLayer("ARTWORK")   ->  attempt to call method `SetDrawLayer' (a nil value)
21:18.34maiaall I want is a bar with text above and not below the bar. so I assume I'd set the bar to artwork and the hp deficit info to overlay...
21:19.29phybercreate the frame, then create a fontstring as "ARTWORK"
21:19.41phyberlocal AceXPBarText = AceXPBarFrame:CreateFontString("AceXPBarText", "ARTWORK")
21:20.32maiaahh, so the parent of my fontstring is the bar and not the general frame. thats an idea...
21:21.02AmadeoSVN is down?
21:21.22Amadeonevermind
21:21.25AmadeoI forgot /root again :P
21:21.47phybermaia: you can also use SetFrameLevel to change the level of stuff too.
21:21.51phyberAceXPBarB:SetFrameLevel(1)
21:21.52phyberAceXPBarR:SetFrameLevel(AceXPBarB:GetFrameLevel() + 1)
21:22.02phyberI do something like that to make sure AceXPBar is all in the right order.
21:22.59maiaphyber: doesnt clicking on the bar lead to it being moved to the top level? then I'd have to reorder everything on each click...
21:23.36Mikmahum hum
21:24.13phybermaia: nope
21:24.48phyberI set the levels once in my MakeFrame() function and that's it
21:24.57maiaphyber: thanks.
21:25.08LyfeAny way of putting Praid into multiple columns? :)
21:25.57Mikmatry the slashcommands
21:26.03Mikmaif there ain't option you can't then
21:26.58maiaLyfe: only the alpha had that option, afaik it was removed
21:27.19Icerothcan't wait for the new version
21:27.48LyfeAhh that's a bugger.
21:28.16Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1637
21:28.18Industrialnews flash
21:28.35Mikmalol 14/34
21:29.05Icerothmaybe it's time for bed, i read "news flesh"
21:29.17Mikmaholy shit change the topic of that thread to "We hate Industrial -fanclub?"
21:29.50kergothhahah
21:30.58TainIndustrial what the hell do you expect?
21:31.18TainAlmost every single post you make is insulting someone with no other helpful value.
21:32.05IndustrialNo way.
21:32.29Mikma.. way
21:32.49TainI only haven't given you negative karma because I didn't realize I could!
21:33.08kergothhahah
21:33.14Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=204;sa=showPosts
21:33.17Industrialread the first page please
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21:33.48Industrialand the second
21:34.05Industrialand note that there are 3-4 posts WITH humour intended that give no help
21:34.08Industrialand all the others do
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21:34.20steinooO
21:34.32Industrial>_o
21:34.33maiahmm, shouldnt the 1.11.1 patch have fixed the PlaySoundFile() problem? for some reasons my addons still are quiet.
21:34.41steinoi finally replaced my Blackhands Breath
21:34.42steino!
21:35.20Icerothpatch notes only mentioned the soft lock maia
21:35.24steinobtw [Ammo], the meaxxna mod is kinda working :)
21:35.30IndustrialTain: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1484.msg25008.html#msg25008
21:35.38IndustrialYes i was rude there
21:35.41steino[Ammo]: the "xxx is webbed" didnt work
21:35.42maiaIceroth: yeah, but Slouken mentioned that the fix should be in 1.11.1 a week ago
21:35.43Iceroththough i remember reading slouken saying it would be fixed in 1.11.1
21:35.49maia:)
21:35.49Industrialthere arent mny i can pick out on wich i am not helpful also
21:35.50Icerothecho :)
21:36.25Icerothbut i don't really consider this as a negative thing! i REALLY hate bigwigs victory sound :P
21:36.26MikmaRAW and Smackdown in row. good way to melt brains
21:36.26maiaokay, so it's not a problem on my side.
21:36.47IndustrialSo that's why I expect people to talk back to me or tell me if im wrong
21:36.57Industrialand not silently -karma me
21:37.55Icerothdoes anyone even know what that soft lock thing was? i don't remember seeing any angry posts about it
21:38.18mjcMikma:  I don't know anyone that watches that that HAS a brain
21:38.49Mikmamjc: yeah i know, i don't have brains :I
21:38.57TainPeople have told you Industrial.  You don't agree with them, so of course you're not goign to agree with the subsequent karma.
21:39.59Industrialexcept for the french cheese thing there wasnt anything..
21:41.03Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1561.msg26933.html#msg26933
21:41.19Industrialeven though it was a joke
21:41.21Industrial:p
21:41.21Mikmamoonwolfie had brainfart
21:41.55MikmaIndustrial: seems like people don't get them as jokes, use ;) or "lol" or "j/k" in posts
21:42.39Industriali could say 'thats not my error' but I might offend someone ;) lol j/k
21:42.55Industrial:>
21:43.14Mikmajust like that
21:43.20snurrehm, target's target cant be working quite right in ouf2 :(
21:43.28Icerothhaha @ tekkub's signature
21:43.47kergothsnurre: it acts weird.  target yourself, then immediately target a unit that has no target... the tot showing you is still up.
21:43.50kergothhehe
21:44.11snurreatm its not showing at all
21:44.13Mikmahaste: fix it!
21:44.31hastefix what meep ek?
21:45.04Mikmahaste: hi
21:45.04hastewhy am I not able to re-create that!
21:45.50Icerothpretty much every unit frame mod i've used that has tot ability is a bit slow with updating it
21:46.04Industrialeven blizzards
21:46.05Industrial;)
21:46.13Icerothwell i haven't tried that one :)
21:46.19Industrialits nice
21:46.22Industrialtoo small imo
21:46.22kergothwell, if it isnt slow updating it, then its going to hurt performance since its updating so often :)
21:46.26kergothjust the nature of it
21:46.31Industrialsits under the target portrait
21:47.19snurreit works right after ive died (in av), but as soon as i start fighting its gone
21:48.56hasteIceroth, I delay the ToT updating with .5 sec
21:49.11Icerothbecause?
21:49.25hasteit will really hit performance to do it more then needed
21:49.33hasteand make memory increate rate go wild
21:49.35hastelike AUF does
21:49.36CIA-703maia * r3692 10Squishy/ (5 files): Squishy: added option to display health deficit
21:49.56Icerothah.. i thought you delayed it when one changes targets :)
21:49.57hastedid*
21:50.07FryGuyis there a way to bind a key to target highest need on squishy?
21:50.21hasteI'm thinking about adding a menu so people can select how fast it should update however
21:50.27Icerothyou could make a macro, drag it to hotbar and bind a key for that
21:50.31FryGuyother than adding a macro for the command
21:51.20Icerothmy healing has been so lazy lately, "select prio 1 target from squishy, cast ht rank 4. repeat". all in one button
21:51.45hasteI did that on CTRA once, the day after I started leveling a new class
21:51.56hastewhen the class hit L60 I started working on oRA
21:52.14CIA-703joshborke * r3693 10HealWatch/ (HealWatch.lua HealWatchFrames.lua): HealWatch: added cast bars to dynamic creation
21:52.38FryGuydo you know the macro?
21:53.11Icerothi'm sure maia can tell it from memory but it's in the squishy thread as well
21:53.41maiaTargetSquishyUnitByPriority = function (self, priority, idreturn)
21:53.45maiaerr.
21:54.00maiaTargetSquishyUnitByPriority(1) will target the unit
21:54.13Icerothoh, that reminds me, what's the difference between Foo = function() and function Foo() ?
21:54.16maiaTargetSquishyUnitByPriority(1,true) will return the unitid
21:54.36maiaIceroth: nothing really.
21:54.39hyperChipmunkfoo = function(self) is equivalent to function Foo
21:54.53hyperChipmunks/Foo/foo()/
21:54.56maiaits just 2 ways of coding (think its called inside the constructor)
21:54.59FryGuy:O
21:55.02FryGuythanks maia
21:55.15NeronixzOMG!
21:55.22NeronixNone of my friends have heard of Dr Tran! :O
21:55.26NeronixI need to correct this
21:55.28snurredr tran!
21:55.44FryGuybut I gotta do SquishY:TargetSqui.. right?
21:56.24maiaFryGuy: yup
21:56.46FryGuymind if I commit a keybinding for this?
21:57.11FryGuyi mean make it so it shows up in the keybindings list
21:57.25ckknightobject.foo = function(self) end is equivalent to function object:foo() end
22:00.27ThraeI broke CIA-17
22:00.35CIA-703joshborke * r3695 10HealWatch/ (HealWatch.lua HealWatchFrames.lua): HealWatch: more tweaks to the castbars, getting closer
22:00.41Icerothguess i'ِِ try to educate myself a bit more (and leech from you); is anyone of you familiar with the stuff this article talks (http://www.wowwiki.com/SetTexCoord_Transformations) and could direct me to some page that would explain it futher?
22:00.47Icerothi'll even
22:00.53Mikmaِنه
22:01.02ThraeI broke CIA-7 even
22:01.27ThraeTinyTip v0.31 up on SVN
22:01.59MikmaOH mamma!
22:02.46hastehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnGVgV4ZlnM
22:03.03hasteit's like terror, but music
22:03.50Icerothis it only me or didn't you Thrae create a directory for tinytip?
22:03.50ThraeHmmm
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22:04.07hyperChipmunknow, with more \!s?
22:04.11Mikmahaste: ZOMG
22:04.36ThraeAh crap, I didn't think I had permissions to /trunk
22:04.49ThraeOK, lemme fix that.
22:05.15hyperChipmunkawesome
22:05.18hyperChipmunkit's in /root
22:05.42hyperChipmunkTabletLib/
22:05.43hyperChipmunkTheBigPicture/
22:05.43hyperChipmunkTheLowDown/
22:05.43hyperChipmunkTimex/
22:05.43hyperChipmunkTinyTip.lua
22:05.45hyperChipmunkTinyTip.toc
22:05.47hyperChipmunketc
22:07.48ThraeOK, CIA-7 didn't pick up on it, but it's in /TinyTip now too
22:08.06CIA-703maia * r3697 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: attempt to fix core.lua:343 error
22:08.42CIA-703thrae * r3698 10TinyTip/README.TXT: FOOOOO
22:08.53ThraeOK, at least I didn't break SVN.
22:10.39ThraePlease find me some errors, I k
22:12.20MikmaThrae: so where's the latest now?
22:12.29CIA-703thrae * r3700 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTipIcons.lua): Fixed PvPIcon scale issue before anyone hopefully saw it.
22:12.44ThraeMikma: /trunk/TinyTip
22:13.07Mikmakk :) did you manage to fix the pvprank on mail box-bug?
22:13.11ThraeJust as I said "find me some errors", I remembered some old code which would error out
22:13.19ThraeYes, by hooking GameTooltip:Hide as well as Show
22:13.29Mikmagood, going to test now
22:13.51ThraeIf you have errors, put them on the WoWAce forum, as I must go AFK for 30min or so
22:15.03maiacan anyone recommend hunter addons? I've been playing healers all my life and am rolling a hunter for Squishy pet support. So far I found Feed-O-Matic and PetExtend.
22:15.38hyperChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/hC-ICU.zip
22:15.50MikmahyperChipmunk: what's that? :)
22:16.00hyperChipmunkICU with some modifications
22:16.01kergothfeed-o-matic is awesome.  i like beastmaster as well, makes the beast training dialog all spiffy and grouped instead of one monster list
22:16.10Mikmawhat's icu
22:16.23hyperChipmunkminimap track-targetting and info
22:16.25ckknight~wtf icu
22:16.35mjc~icu
22:16.43mjc~moredots
22:16.44purlNOW HANDLE IT!!
22:17.01Mikma~whalestab mjc
22:17.02purlACTION stabs mjc with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
22:17.05mjcouch
22:18.57hyperChipmunkooh, TinyTip looks nice
22:19.18ckknight~moredots
22:19.19purlHit it like you mean it!
22:21.52maiathanks, just downloaded ICU and BeastMaster
22:23.30Mikmamm got an error with tinytip
22:23.39maiahow is TinyTip performancewise compared to other addons that display all units targetting someone? I experienced major fps drops in 40man raids with other addons
22:25.56ckknighthttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceAddon-2.0
22:32.45maiahyperChipmunk: a question related to ICU: if I hover over a unit in the minimap, a small frame is shown, displaying name and class of the target. I can click on this frame and my chatframe will display "ICU -> NPC ..." - but no matter what I set "/icu announce" to, it doesnt announce the target.
22:36.27CIA-703maia * r3701 10Squishy/ (Bindings.xml locals.lua locals_frFR.lua): Squishy: added keybindings to target the three units with the highest priority
22:36.55maiaFryGuy: there ya go. you'll need to restart wow though as I added a file.
22:42.24snurrehm, it feels like ouf2 ToT doesn't update while you're in combat
22:42.43Galka_So MiniBlizzRaid works again?  D
22:46.41MikmaGalka_: works and works, they say there's bug in blizzard
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22:48.26Thrae|AFKmaia: TinyTip's main goal is to be as optimized as possible.
22:48.39MikmaThrae|AFK: fix teh bug :(
22:48.50ThraeYeah, I'm on it...I got a bug myself just starting up
22:49.09MikmaThrae: clear settings and /tt pvpicon = the error i messaged
22:51.56Galka_works and works?
22:52.05Galka_Does that mean it works?  Or is this just crazy Mikma speak.
22:52.57Mikmathere is a bug in blizzard code which makes RaidUI load even if MiniBlizzRaid is loaded
22:53.14Mikmasome people say it still reduces memory on raid but not the 6megs the raidui takes
22:53.43Galka_I see
22:53.54IndustrialTinyTip has /tt ?
22:53.58Industrialthats uncool
22:54.05Industrialcause idChatTellTarget has /tt
22:54.06Industrial:P
22:54.54Mikmawell use /tinytip then xD
22:56.01Galka_Mikma my good man
22:56.07Galka_I reverted to an older Bartender :/
22:56.09Amadeoyeah! no /tt !
22:56.37MikmaGalka_: ok?
22:56.43Galka_>.>
22:57.14Mikmayou might have a good reason to use buggy version :)
22:57.52AmadeoWoW = Buggy Version
22:58.27kergothi'm pretty happy with a modified bartender and the old 1.29 tinytip
22:58.36Kebinusan..... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7957304890038761655&q=
22:58.48ThraeMikma: I'm not getting your bug, even going back to default values.
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22:58.52ThraeLet me delete my SV database.
23:00.19Mikmakergoth: yeah the beauty of addons is the freedom to mod them
23:00.46GalkaI missed your responses after my statement :/
23:00.51GalkaI just want a barmod >.>  <==
23:01.02kergothMikma: indeed :)
23:01.03Mikmahello?
23:01.12kergothMikma: the beauty of open source and free software in general
23:01.19MikmaGalka_: it _IS_ barmod with movable QuestWatch...
23:01.30Mikmaand minimap which is toggled OFF by default
23:01.44Mikmaand, it doesn't even touch the textures anymore
23:02.58ThraeAhhhh, there we go.
23:03.19Mikmapoo!
23:03.25CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3702 10Ace2/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
23:03.25CIA-7AceAddon - now accepts X-Email as well as X-eMail.
23:03.25CIA-7AceEvent - :IsEventRegistered("event") now returns isRegged, func
23:03.25CIA-7AceHook - :IsHooked() now returns ishooked, func
23:03.32GalkaYou've changed it since last night?  It was changing the texture when I used it last night
23:03.34AmadeoI need a US server where lots of people use ItemDB, lol
23:03.47MikmaGalka_: changed it many many many times today :)
23:03.57GalkaWhat's new?
23:04.02Mikmalook at the revisions and you'll see
23:04.21Mikmamainly bugfixes
23:06.45maiawhat does UnitName() return for warlock pets?
23:06.59Mikmapaladin?
23:07.02ckknightits name?
23:07.06Thraemaia: The name, sometimes nil
23:07.25KyahxI wish Discord mods weren't so bulky =/
23:07.26maiayeah, I'm having the problem that it returns UNKNOWNOBJECT
23:07.27Kyahxhttp://www.hybrid-fusion.com/~pots/Images/beckon_ui2.jpg
23:07.33Kyahxthats a neat setup
23:08.12Mikmapretty
23:08.15Kebinusanjust a fear button?
23:08.20Kyahxhotkey'd
23:08.21GalkaEh, I don't think its aesthetically pleasing
23:08.28Kyahxno need to see your buttons after you memorize them for a year :P
23:08.55Kebinusaneasy to remember 2 2 22 2 3
23:09.09Kyahxheh
23:10.48snurrehttp://www.break.com/index/japaneseprank9.html lol
23:11.44maiaThrae: any idea under which circumstances warlock pets have no name?
23:12.44Kyahxlag?
23:13.05maianope - Squishy ends up in a endless loop with lock pets
23:13.11Kyahxlike when you load in and everything is "Unknown Entity"
23:13.52maiait attempts to get the name for the pet every second - and sometimes it'll never manage to do so
23:14.18Kyahxdoes it have the same response as if they have no pet, or does it know there is a pet there, just can't get the name
23:14.51TainI think people have found a way to make a pet name that is blank, or comes across as blank.  Becuase I've seen that before in default tooltip.
23:16.34maiaI see. I thought locks can't name their pets?
23:17.35maiaKyahx: if Squishy notices that there's a unit in the raid without a name, it will schedule a new attempt to update the roster.
23:17.54maianow if a pet doesnt have a name for some reason, thats a problem
23:18.02Kyahxwhat if you just named the unit "raid32pet" if the name is nil?
23:18.22maianot really perfect ;)
23:19.23Tekcubwhy would a pet not have a name?
23:19.33maiaI'd like to know too.
23:20.24maiaKyahx: the problem with your suggestion is that it'll break my logic that will notice any weird changes in the roster, as this will compare the saved names with the real names and update the roster if it encounters any differences
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23:22.18maiais it possible pets have no name when out of range?
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23:24.51Mikmahmm
23:25.13maiaactually, I just realized I'm only having the problem if I'm in range of a warlock pet.
23:25.27Galkazomg
23:25.28Galkazomg
23:25.31maia(which is somewhat weird)
23:25.35GalkaBartender plays nice with Squeenix
23:25.37Galkagleeeeee
23:25.56CIA-703thrae * r3703 10TinyTip/ (6 files): Quick fix for enabling/disabling PvPIcons and Anchors. Known bug: Anchor to mouse on/off value not saved.
23:26.21Neronix`sleepnight
23:26.32MikmaGalka: good! :)
23:26.36Mikmathat was my main goal
23:26.57MikmaGalka: also, try /bar minimap and then /bar lock ... move the minimap and test does it work too
23:27.11GalkaIts been very long since ive used Blizzards quest system
23:27.12Mikmathen, if you wan't the minimap back to the place it was /bar minimap
23:27.16GalkaWas the minion not mobile?
23:27.28Mikmait's not mobile, it sticks in one place
23:27.37Galkak
23:28.05Mikmabut, with bartender it is mobile hehe :)
23:28.25Mikmai think Neronix was mastermind behind that idea
23:29.17CIA-703thrae * r3704 10TinyTip/ (TinyTip.lua TinyTipAnchor.lua): Fixed missing module bug. Fixed Anchor always nil'd out on reload bug.
23:29.43ThraeBe back later.
23:29.53Neronix`sleepYeah, I needed it because blizzard is stupid
23:30.12Neronix`sleepwhen you enable one of the right side bars, it moves the minion about 3 miles to the left
23:30.36Neronix`sleepwhich A) is too far to bein with B) I don't need it that far to the right because I scaled all my bars down
23:31.09Mikma:)
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23:32.53Mikmai hope i managed to fix the shapeshift+mainbarhide bug too
23:33.13Mikmai tested it for 1 hour with different shapes and it seems to work nicely
23:34.31FryGuycrap i need a mod to auto-pass on this shit that drops in naxx :(
23:34.55CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3705 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: AceEvent - added :EnableDebugging()
23:34.56CIA-703id * r3706 10idActionBar/idActionBar.lua: idActionBar: Haven't worked on it for a while so heres an unfinished in functionality as what I had in mind but still functioning right version. Cheers.
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23:36.24Neronix`sleeps/to the right/to the left/
23:36.34Neronix`sleepSee? That's why I'm sleeping :P
23:36.50Ratbert_CP~ping
23:36.51purlpong
23:37.26ckknight~pong
23:37.27purl|    .
23:37.36ckknight~literal pong
23:37.37purl"pong" is "<reply> |    ."
23:38.02maiaFryGuy: did you notice I added the Squishy keybinding you requested?
23:39.09IndustrialICH WILL DEINE SEELE
23:39.50ckknightAber es ist meine Seele :-(
23:40.49Mikmalol the bug is still there
23:41.02Mikmai just got rank11 icon on my Mage Quarter -sign
23:41.32Industrialwhahahahhahaha
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23:43.15GalkaHrm yeah iD
23:43.17Galkaid*
23:43.29GalkaTinyTips replacing /tt makes me sadface :/
23:43.54Industrialguess theres also a larger version
23:44.01Industrial/tinytip or something
23:44.11TainBah addon commands should be named like the addons they're for.
23:44.18mjcheh
23:44.28IndustrialTain: target tell needs to be small because you need it to be fast
23:44.43ckknightGalka, turn that frown upside down
23:45.00Industrial/: ?
23:45.01TainWell it's an issue for any number of addons, just have to change it for one. :)
23:45.14Industrialyeah
23:45.33GalkaAgree id, if it was /targettell instead of /tt, there'd be no point to that addon
23:45.43Industrialis there a /t ?
23:45.55MikmaIndustrial: yes
23:45.57mjcsend tell
23:45.57Industrialk
23:45.58TainI thought /t was /t <target>
23:45.59Mikmai use it to message
23:46.00mjc<PROTECTED>
23:46.04Industrialah
23:46.05Industrialk
23:46.09Industrialim used to using /w
23:46.11Industrial:)
23:46.23Mikmabut i myself will propably replace /m for tell too
23:46.30Industrialot simply re-tell or reply
23:46.34Industrialwich i have bound
23:46.35CIA-703ckknight 07Alpha * r3707 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: AceAddon - accepts X-ReleaseDate as well as X-Date
23:47.03TainAh yeah different games used different in the past so kept the same for different people
23:47.38CIA-703tekkub * r3708 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Core.lua Sound.lua):
23:47.39CIA-7BigWigs
23:47.39CIA-7- Tweaked sound module to always use the RaidWarning sound, until Blizzy fixes PlaySoundFile()
23:51.58ckknighthttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceHook-2.0
23:52.01ckknighthttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/AceEvent-2.0
23:52.37CIA-703otravi 07otravi * r3709 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF_TargetsTarget/targetstarget.lua: oUF2 - Target's target should now work a little bit better.
23:55.29cladhaireevening.
23:55.37mjchey cladhaire
23:57.29Tekcub"Titan Panel [War Bonds]  http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1868
23:57.29TekcubHopefully this mod gets an update to the new patch soon. One of the adds that I just can\'t imagine playing without!"
23:57.33Tekcubretards....
23:57.42kergothhah
23:57.54Tekcubwhy would I update that mod?  the "war effort" has been over for like 2 months now on my server...
23:57.57mjcheh
23:58.09cladhairehaha
23:58.24MikmaTekcub: coz you're a god to that person
23:58.41mjcwhat server hasn't finished their war efforts? zomg.
23:58.50Mikmaeonar eu
23:58.50Tekcubif he can't imagine playing without it he's in for a big surprize when AQ opens...
23:59.13CIA-703maia * r3710 10Squishy/ (core.lua frames.lua roster.lua): Squishy: 2nd fix for core.lua:443 problem plus attempt to fix roster loop with pets without name
23:59.29Tekcubhttp://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20060630
23:59.30Tekcubkek

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