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00:03.34*** join/#wowace Ratbert_C1 (n=KCummins@adsl-71-147-10-6.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
00:04.17GalkaJust logged in, lots of AceGUI errors and UberQuest got borked too :/
00:04.35kergothaw
00:06.05CIA-1003ratbert * r3052 10BagBoy/ (5 files):
00:06.05CIA-10BagBoy: Where to begin...
00:06.06CIA-10Updated for 1.11
00:06.06CIA-10When AceGUI is disabled, full item management is now available via FuBar(Plugin) menu
00:06.06CIA-10Rules support continuing to improve
00:08.49*** join/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce3.disney.com)
00:11.33snurrenerf us'ian chicks in paris :p
00:11.44hyperChipmunk?
00:12.02kergothi hate negotiating wage on a new job
00:14.31snurrewhy? get the chance to push up your salary?
00:14.47kergothin this case, it looks like i'll be taking a pay cut to take the position
00:16.32IndustrialWill it end your life as you know it?
00:16.46kergothno, but it will let me work from home full time
00:16.51Industrial\o/
00:16.56Industrial3. profit!
00:18.31snurreworking from home is teh shitz
00:18.45snurrehate having to spend 3ish hours every day just travelling back and forth to job
00:18.55kergothow
00:19.06kergothi'd like to put fewer miles on my car
00:19.47snurredamn french public transport.,.. the paris metro is imba, but the rest is so insanely crap... nothing is coordinated, ever
00:20.18snurrefor no reason at all the bus skipped two routes right after work tonight, so we didn't get into paris to watch the game until 21:30
00:20.22snurre:(
00:21.11hyperChipmunkhow is public transportation imbalanced?
00:21.31snurreit works.. nothing else in this damn country does..
00:21.31kergothi suck at bargaining
00:21.38kergothi'm one of those people that accepts teh first offer the car salesman gives me
00:22.35ckknighthrm
00:26.11snurre*pops a smirnoff signatures*
00:26.25snurredamnit, this stuff is turning me into an alcoholic
00:26.52*** join/#wowace Wobin (n=Wobin@221.221.37.148)
00:27.44ckknightI don't drink/eat any bad stuff
00:28.02snurrei dont drink any bad stuff either
00:28.14ckknightlemme rephrase that
00:28.34snurreoccational mcd's when nothing else is open (yes, there are times where only that damn place is open and nothing else.. curse this country)
00:28.35ckknightI don't take in any alcohol, tobacco, drugs, caffeine, red meat, or refined sugar
00:28.40snurreokay
00:28.41snurreone word
00:28.44snurreWTF?
00:29.02snurrei don't do drugs or tobacco..
00:29.03ckknightit's the way I choose to live
00:29.06ckknightit works for me
00:29.07snurrefreak
00:29.09snurre:p
00:29.24ckknightoh noes, I'll live a longer, healthier life
00:29.50snurrefreak :p
00:30.00ckknightwhat's the big deal?
00:30.20kergothlonger? i doubt that.
00:30.31ckknightwhy's that, kergoth?
00:30.59ckknightas far as my genes have shown, I'll live pretty long already without trying
00:31.38ckknightand I like to live and eat healthily
00:31.44kergothi've not seen any conclusive findings that removing those things from your diet will improve longevity
00:31.45ckknightmakes me feel better
00:32.17ckknightreally? I have
00:32.19Amadeockknight: Any plans on a new FuBar release for 1.11? :)
00:32.26ckknightAmadeo, yea, FuBar 2.0
00:32.36Amadeo:D
00:32.45snurre\o/
00:32.49ckknightAce2 has to be finished first
00:32.49Amadeonew SCT is out, on worldofwar
00:32.56Amadeockknight: Oh, nevermind then :P
00:33.08ckknightAmadeo, I'm writing Ace2.
00:33.16ckknightor at least a giant chunk of it
00:33.47AmadeoYou are?
00:33.51Amadeo:D
00:34.08AmadeoI thought it was mainly Kaelten, and he seems crazy busy
00:34.31ckknightyes, I've been ranting about it for a while
00:34.36ckknightyou been gone?
00:34.52AmadeoI haven't been on IRC as much
00:34.54ckknightKaelten makes the big decisions when me and cladhaire squabble
00:35.00Amadeobut I am coming back!
00:35.05ckknightbut he's been pretty busy
00:35.17ckknightso it's mostly mine, kergoth, and cladhaire's work
00:35.21AmadeoI can't wait
00:35.30ckknightfeel free to try it out
00:35.58ckknightif you can't wait
00:36.00Amadeohaha
00:36.13ckknightif you can wait, we'll put out an alpha soon enough
00:36.29Amadeowell, I don't know enough about that stuff, I just can't wait to see what it does for the end noobser
00:36.50ckknightI made tutorials
00:36.56ckknightyou may want to check em out
00:37.42Amadeowhere at? on SVN?
00:37.53mjcI just had 3 people switch to aced mods because of subversion :D
00:38.28ckknighthttp://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/AceLibrary
00:38.41snurrewow
00:38.42ckknightit's actually all of Ace2, not just AceLibrary
00:38.42mjcckknight: ace2? or
00:38.53snurremy guild killed sartura tonight
00:39.06mjcnice
00:39.59snurre(the guild was created 6 days ago.. since then we've killed all outdoors (kazzak and azuregos twice), onyxia thrice, cleared aq20, zg, bwl, mc and aq40 up to fankriss)
00:40.51snurrestupid green dragons didnt spawn today, so we werent able to do them twice within the first week
00:43.51mjcckknight: how do I load this :P
00:44.00ckknightload what?
00:44.03Kyahxmaia: new squishy isnt even showing the frame for some reason
00:44.06mjcace2 shiat
00:44.17Kyahxslash commands seemingly work
00:44.18maiaKyahx: what?
00:44.25ckknightnote: do not release any addons that use Ace2
00:44.30maiaare you solo, in party or raid?
00:44.34Kyahxraid
00:44.39ckknightmjc, Ace2 is just a bunch of embedded libraries
00:44.43maiathe version I uploaded 2 hours ago?
00:44.48mjcok, so you just make apps with it
00:44.51ckknightyes
00:44.54Kyahxyep
00:45.00mjcand they pull it in like svn externals
00:45.01mjccool
00:45.02maiaKyahx: pet support enabled?
00:45.06Kyahxnope
00:45.08ckknightthey will, mjc
00:45.10maiaenable it
00:45.15ckknightsee the examples for those
00:45.21maiaKyahx: might help enabling pet support
00:45.36kergoththe goal was to be highly modular, highly embeddable, no seperate ace2 addon necessary
00:45.37mjcwould be nice to not pull the externals if ace is already available
00:45.41kergothi need to look at ck's aceoo modifications
00:45.47mjckind of a waste of disk space
00:46.08maiaKyahx: did that solve the issue?
00:46.14Kyahxnope
00:46.31maiadoes the raid have any pet?
00:46.41ckknightmjc, if you have 25 addons that use Ace2, you will need less than a floppy drive's worth of disk space.
00:46.44Kyahxwarlocks
00:47.01maiasigh
00:47.10mjcckknight: +32k per file if you are on fat32 ;P
00:47.22ckknightdon't be on Fat32.
00:47.37kergothfat32 sucks.  we need a good fs that both windows and linux can deal with well
00:47.38maiaKyahx: I guess you don't have a chance to tell all others to abandon their pets and see if Squishy works then (with and w/O pet support enabled)
00:47.57Kyahxnope =/
00:48.14mjcshould I grab bagnon and banknon from wowace.com?
00:48.29kergothi download the releases from curse, myself
00:49.05kergothmjc: hehe, you should see what i do with my addon set.  the entire interface dir is in svn, and every version of every addon is imported on a vendor branch, so upgrades dont lose my local changes. its crazy
00:49.17mjcheh
00:49.43kergotheven scarier is that i have a trac for it.  http://kergoth.com/projects/wow/timeline
00:50.01CIA-1003maia * r3053 10Squishy/roster.lua: Squishy: next attempt on fixing problems in raids
00:52.54mjcabout to do zg maia, I'll let you know if there are problems
00:53.16maiamjc: well, seems there are. are you using AceDebug by any chance?
00:53.30mjcam now
00:53.57mjcit's not insvn
00:53.59mjcmaybe not =)
00:54.06mjcusing bugsack, though
00:54.09maiaI'll upload a version that spits debug code if it encounters roster erros
00:54.18maias/erros/errors
00:55.07mjcwhich fubar debug thingy is preferred?
00:55.11mjcand why are there two in the first place
00:56.32mjckergoth: how do I go about making my interface dir svn with externals for all the svn'd mods?
00:56.37AmadeoWoWI is having host issues I guess
00:57.13maiamjc: AceDebug is available at http://wowace.com/?page=download
00:57.20mjcmaia: cool
00:58.08mjcAmadeo: hwo so
00:58.22AmadeoIt's been down about 5 times tonight
00:58.29mjcpatch
00:58.53Amadeoyeah, but the other addon sites are working ok, so I'm assuming their host isn't as good
00:59.01mjcmaia: ok acedebug is on
00:59.19maiamjc: give me a minute to update the svn :)
00:59.37mjcI can just reloadui right?
00:59.41maiayup
00:59.45mjckk
01:00.01mjcmagtheridon is being retarded
01:00.22Kyahxmaia: I think the problem is the hideing backdrop support
01:00.26Kyahxits hideing the entire frame
01:00.27Amadeowhat's the difference between BugSack and AceDebug?
01:00.29mjctbh maia I'm not a healing class so I don't use squishy much but occasionally it works
01:00.37maiaKyahx: orly?
01:00.45mjcto remind me to grab aggro from the healers
01:00.47Kyahxhmm, well it was, now its working proper
01:00.49Kyahxaugh
01:00.53Kyahxwtf
01:00.55maiaKyahx: so it's working if you disable it?
01:01.09Kyahxit wasn't, now it is...hold on middle of a boss
01:03.37Kyahxok, just updated to the on you just uploaded.  Upon reloadingUI, nothing shows.
01:03.53Kyahxdoing /squishy backdrop - "backdrop hidden is now set to [off]" but nothing shows still
01:04.11Kyahxreloading the ui again, the frame shows
01:04.26Kyahxbut i have the dummy roster.
01:05.03maiahmm, svn.wowace.com down - can't upload the debug code
01:05.57Kyahxdoing a /squishy reload - the whole thing hides again
01:05.59maiato explain the problem: Squishy compares the number of units in its local roster table to the number of available units in the raid. If there's a mismatch, it will hide the frame and reschedule a roster update
01:06.15maiabut if the numbers stay different, it will loop forever
01:06.25maiaso something isn't counting correctly
01:06.36Kyahxjust turnedoff pet support
01:06.46WobinAmadeo: One catches bugs, the other shows them
01:06.49Kyahxit reloads itself and seems to back to normal
01:06.57WobinAmadeo: er actually not
01:07.14WobinAmadeo: I was trying to be witty, but clearly it's too early for that
01:07.15maiaKyahx: so without pet support it works in a raid, and with pet support it breaks as soon as someone has a pet summoned. hmm.
01:07.17Amadeohaha
01:07.37WobinBugsack catches and shows errors, Acedebug allows coders to put in debug messages that are shown
01:07.44AmadeoI see
01:08.18Amadeobbiab! thanks guys
01:08.36Kyahxmaia: conclusion - yea your pet support is still borked
01:08.36mjcfactionitemsfu is fuct
01:12.15mjcoRA_BigWigs still requires oRA_RaidSay
01:12.15Kaeltenacegui is part way better
01:12.17mjcBLAH
01:12.22Kaeltenhmm
01:12.58mjcKaelten: hey, didn't see you at first
01:13.08Kaeltenhi mjc
01:13.26mjcKaelten: KC_Item's database is kind of outdated these days :p
01:13.59Wobinoh yeah. is there a KCI fix in the works, Kael?
01:14.17Kaeltenas far as I know the only break in KCI is AceGUI
01:16.34Wobinirt the no child or something error?
01:17.55Kaeltenyep
01:23.10KaeltenTem:  do you know where listboxes get their data set in the new code?
01:23.14Kaeltenerr in the old code rather
01:25.28ckknightnew AceConsole is shiny, btw
01:26.40TemAceConsole?
01:26.45TemListbox?
01:26.47Temhrm
01:26.55Temnot off the top of my head
01:27.15gnorlishi need an addon genius to quickly list the likely culprits of this problem: i can't inspect anyone nor can i do any sort of party controls such as invite, kick, etc
01:27.38gnorlishready....
01:27.40gnorlishgo!
01:27.56KyahxAcePlayerMenu
01:28.14ckknightTem, AceConsole is like AceChatCmd
01:28.22Temoh
01:29.20mjchow do I move crap around with bartender
01:34.10CIA-1003lordrhys * r3054 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/FactionItemsFu.lua:
01:38.31kergothyay home!
01:40.07Wobinargh
01:40.13Wobinlack of log message =P
01:41.03clad|workckknight: what are you doing with AceConsole?
01:41.16ckknightnot too much. based heavily off yours
01:41.29ckknightI run the table through a validator
01:41.34ckknightto catch errors right away
01:41.35ckknightand such
01:41.49ckknightI allow for localization
01:42.06Wobinhuh. anyone fixing the acegui bugs?
01:42.09clad|workas long as we can still add options dynamically i'm okay with the validation.
01:42.10ckknighte.g. "Usage"
01:42.17WobinOr can we just disable it
01:42.22ckknightit validates at the start
01:42.23ckknighthrm
01:42.26clad|workckknight: Naturally.. i only code in one language, and then localize later
01:42.37ckknightyea
01:42.49clad|workdo you have a link?
01:42.52ckknightnot yet
01:42.58ckknightstill working on it
01:43.00ckknightwill commit soon
01:45.14kergothwhats a good wow talent calculator?
01:45.18hyperChipmunklol
01:45.22gnorlishwowhead.com?
01:45.25hyperChipmunkcurse-gaming.com
01:45.26CIA-1003kaelten * r3055 10AceGUI/elements/ (AceGUIButton.xml AceGUIListBox.lua AceGUIListBox.xml): Fixed to make compatabile with 1.11.
01:45.31hyperChipmunkUsers online: TOO MANY
01:45.34kergoththanks gnorlish
01:46.51Kaeltenwill those of you who use the svn please  test that fix with the other acegui addons and see if there is any issues?
01:47.19mjcyes
01:47.37Kaeltenthe only thing you have to do is /consoleui reload
01:47.43Kaeltendon't have to restart after the files update
01:49.31mjcI vhave
01:50.06mjcwho wrote oRA_BigWigs?
01:50.07ckknightclad|work, as long as you have a reference to the table beforehand, you should be able to add dynamically to it
01:50.53gnorlishora_bw looks to be ammo
01:51.04mjc[Ammo]: fixit
01:51.13hyperChipmunkmany people
01:51.25hyperChipmunkoh, ora-bw
01:52.00CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3056 10AceLibrary/AceConsole.lua: AceConsole - Initial commit
01:52.10mjchyperChipmunk: l2read
01:52.29kergothhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?uZfVfdV0ubVbet00o any opinions?
01:54.24Kyahxanyone else getting a ton of disconnects from wow?  =/
01:54.32CIA-1003ckknight 07TestSuite * r3057 10AceLibrary/ (AceConsole-1.lua FakeWoW.lua):
01:54.32CIA-10Ace2/TestSuite - added AceConsole-1.lua.
01:54.33CIA-10Added chat stuff to FakeWoW.lua
01:54.34KyahxI'm getting booted every 5 minutes, tops
01:55.00Wobinnetcurse: You about?
01:55.04gnorlishkergoth, do you raid with your shaman
01:55.33gnorlishand no, i'm not going to suggest mana tide
01:58.44kergothi used to. i never play him anymore though.. expect i'll be doing more pvp than raiding, but *shrug8
01:58.49Kaeltenanyone having an issue with the AceGUI I just submitted?
01:58.59kergothbefore the 1.11 reset he was mostly resto, with mana tide, and some enh
01:59.10WobinJust about to log in Kael
01:59.25mjcKaelten: not used it for anything yet
02:00.33mjcsomeone fix oRA_BigWigs to not use oRA_RaidSay
02:00.34mjcand erm
02:00.39mjcit confuses the crap out of me
02:01.08gnorlishwell then kergoth
02:01.21kergothhe was my main, but is sorely neglected :)
02:01.28gnorlishdo you have good enh gear and a crazy 2h?
02:01.44gnorlishb/c elem is gross now
02:02.07kergothnot bad, have an old taran icebreaker which was pretty decent for pvp, due to the fast attack speed.  could use some upgrades
02:02.10mjcBIGWIGS_MESSAGE is the offending function
02:02.21kergothhe used to be primarily enh long ago
02:02.31mjchow do you do a raidsay with 1.11?
02:02.55WobinAceGUIElement.lua:112: attempt to index field `?' (a nil value)
02:03.18WobinI still need to sell a Taran Icebreaker
02:03.22gnorlishgo full shield spec and get tidal mastery if at all possible
02:03.31WobinMaybe I should try on the neutral AH
02:03.50CIA-1003maia * r3058 10Squishy/ (core.lua roster.lua): Squishy: next attempt on fixing pet troubles
02:04.28kergothhmmmm
02:04.56gnorlishyou won't be wearing 3pc ef i take it?
02:05.13Kaeltenwobin?  whats that?
02:05.53maiaKyahx: get the new squishy please.
02:05.55kergothnot yet anyway, if i get it i'll respec.  gotta love the new diminishing respec cost
02:05.59kergoth:)
02:06.19WobinThat's the error on login
02:06.36Kaeltenwith the new AceGUI?
02:06.39Wobinyeah
02:06.44maiaKyahx: found out that the errors only happen in raids if you dont have a pet summoned yourself. which I never tried before...
02:06.47Kaeltenwhat acegui addons are you using?
02:06.50CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3059 10AceLibrary/AceConsole.lua: AceConsole - tweaked validator.
02:07.15CIA-1003ckknight 07TestSuite * r3060 10AceLibrary/ (AceConsole-2.lua AceConsole-3.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceConsole-2.lua and AceConsole-3.lua
02:07.27Wobinhm
02:07.29Wobinkci
02:07.34Wobinand bagboy
02:07.43Wobinalthough I'm sure I updated bagboy
02:07.47Wobinlemme check
02:07.55mjcbagboy?
02:07.56Kaeltentry disabling bagboy and see if you still get the error?
02:07.58mjcwhat's that for anyways
02:08.02mjcmrplowish?
02:09.12Wobinauto trash/sell thingie
02:10.57WobinInterface\AddOns\KC_Items\linkview\advsearch.lua:139 main chunk
02:11.18WobinAtttempt to index field '?'
02:13.03WobinThat's the trace from the AceGUI error btw
02:13.24mjcoRA ready check thing is broekn too
02:13.29WobinI can give more lines if you need
02:13.54Wobinbut they're all referencing: Interface\AddOns\AceGUI\AceGUIElement.lua:112 function `BuildElements'
02:14.46Kaeltenwobin: I'm not getting that error with KCI
02:15.10Wobin=\
02:15.16kergothbah, the new bagnon still uses Infield, not the new clamp to screen stuff
02:15.20kergothah well
02:15.23Kaeltenjust rechecked
02:19.01Gngskis it worth having catalyst with 1.11 out?
02:19.34gnorlishno
02:19.45Gngskthat's what I thought
02:21.48mjchealwatch is broked
02:21.51mjcpoisonmaster
02:21.56Kyahxnot even worth it to see what your zone times are?  :P
02:23.20kergothanyone played with the new winter's chill talent? worthwhile or no?
02:23.41KaeltenWobin:  any ideas?
02:23.42*** join/#wowace Amadeo (i=zenon@c-69-244-73-129.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
02:24.24Wobinnot offhand unfortunately... I'm a bit too tired to effectively debug =\
02:24.24Kaeltenheh
02:26.03Tekkubbleh
02:26.10Kaeltenhleh
02:26.27Tekkubguild drama is depressing
02:26.32kergoths/guild //
02:26.32TekkubI give the guild a week at best
02:28.40gnorlishwinter's chill is fairly nuts in pve
02:29.57Kebinusan:-/
02:33.14WobinKaelten: FontObject thing?
02:34.47KaeltenFontstring?
02:34.53CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3061 10AceLibrary/AceHook.lua: AceHook - added more checks.
02:35.52Wobinmeh
02:36.02Wobinthe only common element I can find is the OPTIONSBOX
02:41.07mjcwe need a ZG loot thingy
02:41.45Tekkubhuh?
02:49.25mjclike uplink
02:49.29mjcshows what the purples are for
02:49.37mjccause uplink doesn't work still :p
02:50.58WobinKaelten: Okay
02:51.00Wobinnow it works
02:51.07Wobin*sigh*
02:51.14Wobinyeay spontanaity
02:51.38hyperChipmunk...
02:51.43hyperChipmunkthe game tells you now
02:52.00hyperChipmunkyou can delete uplink
02:53.56CIA-1003lordrhys * r3062 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/Readme.txt:
02:54.04CIA-1003wobin * r3063 10PlowKing/ (PlowKing.lua PlowKingBagSection.lua PlowKingBagSlot.lua): PlowKing - Hide Label... actually hides the label now...
02:54.52hyperChipmunkle gosh
02:55.03hyperChipmunkbut does the rest of the addon still suck?
02:56.18WobinWell
02:56.29WobinIf you don't know for yourself, I'm not going to tell you =P
02:56.31WobinGo find out
02:56.55WobinIt's not like I complain about BulkMail without trying it
02:57.04WobinJust cause it doesn't heal my raid
02:57.47hyperChipmunk=)
03:00.33CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3064 10AceLibrary/AceHook.lua: AceHook - script hooking now works properly.
03:02.34CodayusIs there a working AceGui yet?
03:02.42clad|workckknight: Umm.. what was wrong with script hooking?
03:02.43Kaeltenits on the svn
03:02.51CodayusWicked
03:02.55ckknightI fucked with your code :-P
03:02.56KaeltenCodayus:  I'm wanting  a few people to test it before I release it
03:03.05CodayusI'll test.  :-)
03:03.07ckknightmade an optimization earlier that must've broken it.
03:03.08clad|workyes.. but what did you change to stop it from working?
03:03.42Cairennnight clad|sleep
03:03.49clad|sleepIn a few minutes =)
03:03.49ckknightI treated it like a normal method instead of a script
03:03.49Kaeltennight clad
03:04.00Kaeltenah, can't do that
03:04.01ckknightso obj[method](obj, ...) didn't quite work
03:05.26clad|sleepah
03:07.59hyperChipmunkWobin: lookin good
03:08.18WobinCool =) Any suggestions for implementation?
03:08.24hyperChipmunkyes
03:08.41hyperChipmunkI don't want them to only gravitate to squares
03:08.55hyperChipmunklike my ammo window
03:09.05hyperChipmunkI'd like to hide that, ideally
03:09.15hyperChipmunkbut being able to make it 8x2 or 16x1 would be nice, too
03:09.30WobinI'm going to make the frames specifically hidable
03:09.44hyperChipmunksometimes the puzzle pieces get quite nausty
03:09.56mjcwhat are we suggesting?
03:09.58hyperChipmunkand are you going to autoadjust stuff when new rows and columns are added?
03:09.59mjcplowking?
03:10.02Wobinhehe I can envisage a tetris thing
03:10.08hyperChipmunkyea
03:10.22hyperChipmunkI need 4x1s for my tetris, darnit!
03:10.25WobinAt the moment, it automatically readjusts to the closest square
03:10.36hyperChipmunkyou can't get a tetris with only 2x2s!
03:10.40Wobin(reducing height if it can)
03:11.01hyperChipmunkyea, I browsed the code some
03:11.48WobinBut it shouldn't be too difficult to allow input on rows or cols
03:12.43hyperChipmunkyou ought to try organizing them into a golden-ratio rectangle on open
03:12.44WobinAlthough, you'd only be able to set one
03:12.55Wobin(ie either rows or columns)
03:13.01hyperChipmunkofc
03:13.21hyperChipmunkalso
03:13.43WobinHehe, I was considering reworking the flatten code to take up the least amount of space... but figured the user could do that =P
03:13.56hyperChipmunkwhen a row or column gets added to a frame that's part of a block, the other frames in the block should shift to accomodate it w/o overlap
03:14.20Wobinhm
03:14.47hyperChipmunkthat's the single biggest thing keeping it from general use for me
03:14.50WobinThe whole 'block' thing is pretty tenuous really
03:14.58Kebinusanhextris
03:15.09Wobinat the moment, all it's doing is checking if it has common edges, then recursing
03:15.18mjcwelpo
03:15.19hyperChipmunkyea, the block needs to be more stable and consistent too =)
03:15.22mjcmy tooltips ar e fucked
03:15.26mjcbut server is being restarted in 5mins
03:16.45kergothwell that was odd
03:16.53kergothcedega crashed trying to patch, fell back to regular wine, which works fine
03:16.55kergothhehe
03:17.07hyperChipmunkI did the same
03:17.09WobinThe thing is, blocks are only ever temporary on hitting Shift while clicking
03:17.15hyperChipmunkwell winex/wine
03:17.39hyperChipmunkwell, check for edges when new items are picked up
03:17.47WobinI guess I could have an 'attach' to option instead?
03:17.54Wobinfor a more permanant solution?
03:18.03mjcyes
03:18.05hyperChipmunkand move them recursively
03:18.20mjcit would be nice to attach slots to a bar also
03:18.20mjcor
03:18.23mjcto FuBar
03:19.19mjcit would also be nice to attach individual slots instead of categories of items
03:19.38ckknight\lua\lua50: invalid key for `next'
03:19.39ckknighthelp.
03:19.45hyperChipmunkO_o
03:19.50Wobin><
03:19.58hyperChipmunkat least they've added SOME info to that stupid error
03:20.03WobinAny more code? =P
03:20.15ckknightnext(AceEvent.registry[event], obj) causes the error
03:20.27ckknightobj is not nil, AceEvent.registry[event] is a table
03:20.28Wobin~lua next
03:20.42Wobinmeh, only put in strings
03:20.46ckknightcan't.
03:20.49hyperChipmunkit used to just say "Invalid key for `next'"
03:20.56hyperChipmunkand absolutely nothing else
03:23.11Wobinhm
03:23.21ckknightfigured it out.
03:23.32Wobinobj is not a key?
03:24.16ckknightit used to be.
03:24.23ckknight*thumbs up*
03:25.49kergothwhee, error central.  /me logs in for the first time
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03:27.26CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3065 10AceLibrary/AceEvent.lua: AceEvent - fixed once dealy.
03:28.10CodayusHaving a tooltip issue with an "extra" tooltip in the bottom right.  Anyone else seen that?
03:28.23Codayus(I use tipbuddy to stick the tooltip to my cursor normally)
03:28.31ThraeI just had to reinstall Debian after one of the main partitions failed. Damn my lazy ass for not setting up at least a RAID0.
03:28.41mjcfuck raid0
03:28.49mjcraid0 makes it *MORE* liikely to lose shit
03:29.10ThraeWell, I could also make a crontab to do a incremental backup every night.
03:29.11kergothraid0 is a performance thing,t hats all
03:29.27kergothi probably wont go mirroring, but i'll at least go with a parity drive
03:29.36mjcraid0 is stupid
03:30.43CIA-1003kaelten * r3066 10AceGUI/AceGUI.toc: Updated Toc for 1.11
03:31.28AmadeoKaelten: Did ya fix the bug already?
03:31.43hyperChipmunklol Kaelten
03:31.55hyperChipmunkthat wasn't quite the fix we were all looking for >8D
03:32.13kergothMikma, can you add options to hide each bar as well as the micro/bags?
03:32.59mjcyes
03:33.01mjcthat would be great
03:33.09mjcparticularly the shapeshift bar
03:33.22mjcKaelten: heading to the AH to try kci
03:33.26mjcand er
03:33.33mjchow do you add items to the master db
03:33.35mjchttp://rafb.net/paste/results/geOEuV99.html (1 line)
03:34.03mjcwtf?
03:34.11mjcoh
03:34.14mjcthat was not intentional
03:35.55CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3067 10AceLibrary/AceConsole.lua: AceConsole - now validates methods after ADDON_LOADED
03:36.30CIA-1003ckknight 07TestSuite * r3068 10AceLibrary/ (5 files): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceConsole-related tests
03:36.37mjcckknight: what mods are you responsible for? that you still putz with
03:36.47kergothi want to hide the actionbars myself, i use ghostbarmod and selectionring for most things
03:36.54ckknighta few
03:36.57ckknightFuBar and such
03:37.01mjcaha
03:37.01ckknightAutoAttack
03:37.06ckknightAce2
03:37.18ckknightabout 7 libs
03:37.28ckknightwhy?
03:37.34mjcjust curious
03:37.40ckknightwell
03:37.43mjctrying to put nicks to code
03:37.43ckknightyou're a towel.
03:38.06ckknight~moredots
03:38.07purlmore dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!
03:39.12ckknightmjc, you?
03:39.18mjcI'm a nublet
03:39.29mjcbut I've done a bit of random things to other mods
03:39.30kergothwhats with the weird extra tooltip that shows up?
03:39.56mjckergoth: it hates you
03:39.57Cairennno one seems to really know
03:39.58Codayuskergoth: If you work that out, let me know.
03:40.20ckknightI'm thinking of adding implicit interface inheritance
03:40.36ckknighte.g. if I have an interface IBarkable
03:40.47ckknightand have a Dog that Barks
03:41.01ckknighttesting for inheritance would return true
03:41.09mjcsounds cool
03:41.19ckknighteven if Dog doesn't explicitly inherit from IBarkable
03:41.43kergothhmm, not a bad idea
03:41.50kergothi still need to look at how you implemented interfaces
03:41.53ckknightI forget what it's called in Python
03:42.01ckknightkergoth, with magic!
03:42.03ckknightand pies.
03:42.06Cairennkergoth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=397675&p=1&tmp=1#post397675
03:42.08ckknightcan't forget the pies.
03:42.14kergothi kinda miss the old multiple inheritence implementation.  it was filled with niftiness, though it was completely overkill :)
03:42.49ckknightMixins are shiny.
03:42.55ckknightthey inherit from interfaces as well
03:43.12ckknighton that note, food.
03:43.21hyperChipmunkcan they heal my raid?
03:44.04kergothmixins are shiny indeed. i love that D has them
03:47.00Kyahxgrrrr
03:47.07Kyahxdisconnects make me angry =(
03:52.44WobinHow does Dog link up with IBarkable? Cause IBarkable has a Barks?
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03:55.34Kaeltenheads up everyone acegui is up on all thre sites?
03:55.43Kaeltenerr that was no ?
03:56.02Kaeltengnight
03:56.05Wobin?
03:56.09Codayus?
03:56.20KaeltenI posted a new AceGUI on all 3 sites
03:56.38Kyahxinteresting
03:56.52Kyahxmy AceHealFu work was all for naught!
03:57.09hyperChipmunkyou mean with the updated toc O_o?
03:57.35kergothKyahx, ?
03:57.44Kyahxlol
03:57.49KyahxI hate this game tonight =(
03:57.54KyahxIm getting disconnected every 5 minutes
03:57.58kergothouch
03:58.13Kyahxeven broke down and loged in with 0 mods
03:58.16Kyahxstill didnt last
03:58.21mjcthey are in the middle of rebooting the servers
03:58.22mjclearn to read
03:58.24mjckthx
03:58.25mjcdiaf
03:58.27kergothi'm getting better framerates after 1.11
03:58.32kergothmust be that m2faster option
03:58.41mjcm2faster is a mac think
03:58.43mjcthing
03:58.48kergothwell dunno then
03:58.53mjcand I'm getting worse framerates ;P
03:58.53kergothits noticably better for me
03:59.04mjclike.. 5-10 in the middle of SM
03:59.14kergothow
03:59.50mjcyeah
03:59.55Wobinm2faster isn't just mac
04:00.06mjcit was when they released it
04:00.11mjcmaybe not in 1.1
04:00.11mjc1
04:00.36WobinIt was only active in Cities anyway
04:04.21kergothwhen Bartender gets the ability to hide individual bars i'll drop cardbars in a heartbeat
04:05.26KyahxMy raid is naked.
04:05.33ckknightsexy.
04:05.57kergothwoo, my wow is almost playable again, thats good
04:05.58KyahxIt is somewhat humerous to see everyone wearing nothing but cloaks and tabards
04:07.36mjckergoth: agreed
04:08.12kergothmikma should make it so those bars stick to the edges of the screen though, and to fubar frames
04:08.18kergoth:)
04:08.24mjcMikma: ping
04:08.31mjc9fps
04:08.34kergothoww
04:09.14mjcit's a radeon 9800 pro on a dual opteron 242 with 4GB RAM
04:09.16mjcfuckin gay
04:09.59AmadeoAceGUI works
04:10.01Kyahxsticking to FuBar frames would be nice
04:10.02Amadeothanks Kaelten
04:12.00kergothigor's mass auction kicks so much ass, at least once you fix it to not depend on the blizzard auction ui, which was forcing it to load early
04:12.08kergothmake it LOD and life is good
04:14.15mjcwe need a way to make the minimap fullsize
04:14.48mjcso that we don't have to use distorted crappy maps like metamap or atlas
04:15.42Wobinhehe
04:15.51Wobinwasn't there that 3rd party mapmod?
04:16.49ckknightyatlas?
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04:20.12kergothyatlas is very nice
04:20.19kergothmjc, thats basically yatlas, it looks like the minimap does
04:20.30kergothhas both a full screen mode and a smaller mode
04:20.39mjchow can I check how many items are in my KCI DB
04:20.40kergoths/full screen/world map size/
04:21.57hyperChipmunkWobin: if you hide labels, the category disappears
04:22.04mjc<PROTECTED>
04:22.10hyperChipmunkthen if you click an item and assign it to that category
04:22.11Wobinonly if it's empty
04:22.16hyperChipmunkright
04:22.25Wobinit doesn't show the label?
04:22.33hyperChipmunkdoesn't show the frame at all
04:22.36hyperChipmunkjust the buttons
04:22.37Wobinoo
04:22.40hyperChipmunkso i can't even move 'em
04:22.40Wobinhokay
04:23.05hyperChipmunkreload fixes
04:23.43mjcbagnon is kind of bleh
04:24.58*** mode/#wowace [+v ckknight] by KaeltenAway
04:25.04*** mode/#wowace [+v kergoth] by KaeltenAway
04:25.16*** mode/#wowace [+v clad|sleep] by KaeltenAway
04:27.32gnorlishwhat don't you like about it
04:27.37gnorlishi find that it does everything i need
04:27.41mjc#1 no svn
04:27.49mjc#2 can't scale it
04:27.57ckknightomg voice!
04:28.00gnorlishright click on the top area next to your name
04:28.04gnorlishnot on top of your name
04:28.09gnorlishyou will get an entire menu of options
04:28.12mjcaha
04:28.21mjcwell, then, svn :P
04:28.25ckknightnow that I'm voiced, I demand tithings
04:28.26gnorlishi like to make the background invisible
04:28.27ckknightfrom hyperChipmunk
04:28.30ckknightand Amadeo
04:28.34hyperChipmunkO_o
04:28.38ckknightand Elkano, but he's not here
04:28.46gnorlishdon't let that stop you
04:28.52ckknight~finger hyperChipmunk
04:28.53purlACTION raises middle finger to hyperChipmunk
04:29.04ckknightsee, I have purl to do it for me.
04:29.11mjc~finger sare
04:29.12purlACTION raises middle finger to sare
04:29.15kergoth~botsnack
04:29.15purlthanks, kergoth
04:29.17kergoth~emulate chris
04:29.19purlIt's partially an expression of my teenage angst...but mostly, it's a moo cow!
04:29.25ckknight~chippersnack hyperChipmunk
04:29.27purlACTION feeds hyperChipmunk some nuts.
04:29.27mjc~moredots
04:29.28purlyou lose 50 dkp again!
04:29.28kergothhehe
04:29.35ckknighthehe.
04:29.37gnorlishwhat the hell
04:29.40gnorlishchippersnack
04:29.52hyperChipmunkmy g/f added it =D
04:29.52ckknight~chippersnack gnorlish
04:29.53purlACTION feeds gnorlish some nuts.
04:30.05gnorlishdoes purl learn dynamically from what people feed it
04:30.12gnorlishor does someone select what to add
04:30.19hyperChipmunkyou teach him
04:30.21hyperChipmunkand he learns
04:30.31gnorlish~tran
04:30.37ckknight~emulate cookie monster
04:30.38purlMe want cookie!
04:30.42ckknight~dr. tran
04:30.43purlHickory smoked is so crazy what's wrong with you!?
04:30.44mjc~emulate ckknight
04:30.45purlI like Trillian
04:30.47hyperChipmunkpurl, gnorlish is an ignorant fool.
04:30.48purlhyperChipmunk: okay
04:30.54hyperChipmunk~gnorlish
04:30.56purlit has been said that gnorlish is an ignorant fool.
04:31.04mjc~emulate ckknight
04:31.05purlI like Trillian
04:31.09ckknightpurl, no, emulate ckknight is <reply>now that I'm voiced, I demand tithings
04:31.10purlokay, ckknight
04:31.13ckknightthere we go
04:31.16ckknightsomething more recent
04:31.17kergoth~emulate fry
04:31.19purlWords. Nothing but sweet, sweet words that turn into bitter orange wax in my ears.
04:31.19mjchaha
04:31.19gnorlishthe bot is obviously delusional
04:31.29mjc~emulate ckknight
04:31.31purlnow that I'm voiced, I demand tithings
04:31.32ckknight~emulate bender
04:31.33purlWell I don't have anything else planned for today, let's get drunk!
04:31.47gnorlishis this bot cross-server
04:32.04ckknighthrm
04:32.09kergoththe bot is freenode only
04:32.21ckknightnow that AceCommand is "done". All the major parts of Ace2 are in place
04:32.22kergothabout 4-5 individual connections.  it's apt, ibot, jbot, purl, and i think another one
04:32.25ckknightthe puzzle is complete
04:32.38ckknightturns out it was an image of a tractor.
04:32.40kergoth~purl
04:32.41purlrumour has it, purl is such a homo
04:32.48kergothpurl, forget purl
04:32.51kergoth~ibot
04:32.52purlrumour has it, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported.
04:33.28ckknightpurl, no, purl is <reply>rumor has it, $who owes me 5 dollars.
04:33.29purlckknight: okay
04:33.34ckknight~purl
04:33.36purlrumor has it, ckknight owes me 5 dollars.
04:33.40ckknightsee
04:33.44ckknightnice and plain
04:33.49ckknightand random
04:34.02gnorlishwe need to get it to say hot dickings
04:34.17kergothpurl, no, purl is <reply> see ibot
04:34.18purlkergoth: okay
04:34.23kergothpurl sukcs
04:34.24kergothpurl sucks
04:34.25purlI'm only as good as you've helped make me .. idiot
04:34.32kergothawwww they changed it
04:34.37kergoth~factinfo sucks
04:34.37purlsucks -- last modified at Sun May  1 18:43:03 2005 by learner!~brlcad@brlcad.bronze.supporter.pdpc; it has been requested 40 times, last by kergoth, 12s ago.
04:34.42hyperChipmunkpurl sux
04:34.44purlextra, extra, read all about it, sux is su with xauth, to run X apps as root : http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ or sucks, or "I have an exagerrated opinion about something I don't really know much about."
04:34.56ckknightpurl sucks
04:34.58purlYou suck.
04:34.58kergothpurl, no, sucks is <reply> For $5 I'll do more than that!
04:34.59purlokay, kergoth
04:34.59hyperChipmunkO_o it got changed
04:35.10kergothpurl sucks
04:35.12purlFor $5 I'll do more than that!
04:35.16kergoththere, all better
04:35.21ckknightback to normal.
04:35.33hyperChipmunkpurl sux used to be 'no you @#$%ing suck, hyperChipmunk!'
04:39.24kergothhmm, plowking is erroring, nil concatenation on line 12
04:39.26kergothwonder why
04:41.03*** part/#wowace kergoth (n=kergoth@216.237.114.82)
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04:41.13Kyahx~emulate Kyahx
04:41.14kergothheh, wrong button
04:41.24Kyahxawww, no response :P
04:41.40mjcpurl: emulate Kyahx is I can't read to save my life
04:41.41purlmjc: okay
04:41.45mjc~emulate kyahx
04:41.47purlmethinks emulate kyahx is I can't read to save my life
04:41.53Kyahxhaha
04:41.53mjchmm
04:42.17mjc~emulate kyhax is <reply>I can't read to save my life!
04:42.18purlokay, mjc
04:42.18KyahxI digress!
04:42.26mjcdammit!
04:42.44mjc~emulate kyahx is <reply>I can't read to save my life!
04:42.45purl...but emulate kyahx is already something else...
04:42.59mjcpurl, no, emulate kyhax is <reply>I can't read to save my life!
04:43.01purli already had it that way, mjc
04:43.06Kyahxheh
04:43.09mjc< I suck
04:43.21kergoth~emulate kergoth
04:43.22purlACTION wields a mean spiked metal cluebat
04:43.23mjcpurl, no, emulate kyahx is <reply>I can't read to save my life!
04:43.25purlokay, mjc
04:43.26kergoth~botsnack
04:43.26purlkergoth: thanks
04:43.29mjc~emulate kyahx
04:43.31purlI can't read to save my life!
04:43.38kergoth~emulate kergoth
04:43.39purlHmm... I know I was supposed to be doing something.  I wonder what it was.
04:43.43kergoth:D
04:43.57KyahxI should skip work tomarrow
04:44.02Kyahxtoo tired =/
04:44.09Kyahxsleep > paycheck
04:44.35kergothi'm having trouble motivating myself, since i'm spending most of my time trying to decide whether or not to quit and take this other job :)
04:45.09Kyahxeh, im stuck with shitty summer job.  It'll be over soon enough, but that also means I have 0 motivation whatsoever :P
04:45.32kergothhehe
04:45.40Kyahxthen back to school, where internet is free*!
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04:45.46mjcbagnon seems to consume more memory once you first open your bag
04:45.48Kyahxand fast >.<
04:46.04Kyahxdosent Bagnon only load when you open your bags?
04:46.06gnorlishi had problems when i used aioi
04:46.11gnorlishwith memory and whatnot
04:46.13KyahxIt just loads a stub right away or some such
04:46.20gnorlishbagnon stays very quick for me
04:47.20Thraegnorlish: Keep checking on PlowKing, it's doing pretty well.
04:47.41ThraePlowKing = EngInv-style bag listing
04:47.44KyahxI always liked Discord Mini Panels
04:48.03Kyahxbut I have a very low desire to use any discord stuff =/
04:49.33gnorlishi was going to try plowking but i'm waiting until all my addons are stable again
04:49.37gnorlishbefore i add new ones
04:51.10CodayusWhat's the Lua command to set the raid symbols?  Anyone recall?
04:53.21mjchum
04:53.44mjc"Medallion of the Dawn x 1" "max stack size of (1)" with no item tooltip
04:54.34mjcdone that since 1.10 also
04:57.48mjcarchud needs to be able to turn off the blizzard party frame
04:57.49KebinusanI need to take the time to setup something other than dab
04:58.08Kebinusanmostly havent due to laziness
04:58.28ThraeKebinusan: Try Visor+VisorGUI+EasyVisor
04:58.39CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3069 10AceLibrary/AceOO.lua: AceOO - added implicit interface inheritance.
04:59.04Kebinusanyeah I was looking at visor the other day, it looked promising
04:59.11CIA-1003ckknight 07TestSuite * r3070 10AceLibrary/ (AceOO-inheritance-7.lua AceOO-inheritance-8.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceOO-inheritance-7.lua and AceOO-inheritance-8.lua
05:00.27ckknightimplicit interface inheritance means arbitrary API checks without having classes explicitly depend on an interface, which is a Good Thing (TM)
05:02.05kergothwoot, 28K xp/hr at level 40.  gotta love the woodpaws
05:02.09weabGood Thing™
05:02.39ckknightokay
05:02.41ckknightwhat next?
05:03.17hyperChipmunkfriggin bongos
05:03.27hyperChipmunkwon't let me place things beyond the edge of the screen
05:04.54gnorlish~factinfo chippersnack
05:04.55purlchippersnack -- created by hyperChipmunk <n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com> at Sat Apr  8 18:24:11 2006 (73 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by ckknight at Tue May  9 17:18:37 2006.
05:05.18ckknightit's been requested more than 4 times.
05:05.27gnorlishtalk to purl about that
05:05.43hyperChipmunkyea, my g/f uses it every night O_o
05:05.51gnorlishpurl: you must be a woman, because you lie with every word you say
05:06.52Kebinusan~C'Thun
05:06.54purl*** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - 5~ sec! ***
05:07.02Kebinusan<3
05:08.35hyperChipmunkthis is pissing me off
05:08.41hyperChipmunklet me place my bars where I want them
05:08.53Kebinusanits for your own safety
05:08.56Kebinusanheheh
05:09.05hyperChipmunkI don't give a crap about my own safety
05:09.23hyperChipmunkI'll chance the consequences of putting it 5 pixels off the edge
05:09.49Kebinusanhm thsi ct_colorbuffs looks like an interesting buff frame
05:10.16Kebinusanthe background doubles as a bar timer for the buff
05:11.30Tekkubmuahahahahahaha
05:12.01Kebinusanevil laugh
05:12.01TekkubI think, if the new torgetting icons will do what I want them to do, that I can blow CTRA's assist shit to pieces
05:12.12Tekkuband I will name the mod TekTacTics
05:12.17hyperChipmunkyou can't target an icon
05:12.26Tekkubnot directly
05:12.26Kebinusanstep1, change them numbers
05:12.28hyperChipmunknot that I've seen
05:12.38hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
05:12.42Tekkubwhatabout a mouseover sweep hC?
05:12.56Tekkublike that "Target unique" mod
05:13.07Tekkubwell anywho here's my design thought...
05:13.07KebinusanI hate the feeling like Im staring at a bowl of lucky charms
05:13.09hyperChipmunknothing changes in the interface
05:13.18hyperChipmunkjust renders the icon and nothing else
05:13.25Tekkubyou tag each mob with an icon
05:13.27hyperChipmunkthere's nothing in the target frame that indicates that it's tagged
05:13.34Tekkubyou pick an attack order
05:13.34hyperChipmunkor anything else
05:13.48Tekkubyou assign a tank or CCer to each and a job
05:13.53hyperChipmunkwell yea
05:14.06hyperChipmunkbut there's no way for a mod to do the targetting for you
05:14.11Tekkubyou click a button, the raid is told the attack order, each tank/CCer is set a tell with their instructions
05:14.22hyperChipmunkpeople still have to target them
05:14.41TekkubhC: GetRaidTargetIndex("target");
05:14.53Tekkubanyway, I'll toy with this tomorrow
05:15.07KyahxYou can mark raid members too
05:15.08Tekkubbut basically it will at least make target assignment simple on the leader
05:15.21KyahxI was thinking it'd make a nice addition to BigWigs
05:15.30Tekkuband if I can get the peon end working as I think I can, target acquistion easy too
05:15.45Tekkuband it'll totaly remove the need for tank frames
05:16.03Tekkuband I'm gonna add the icons to PRT too :)
05:16.35Tekkubanyone not busy that can log in and join a raid for me to look at these?
05:16.49hyperChipmunkyou can join my raid
05:17.11Tekkubwhich server again?
05:17.17hyperChipmunkfeathermoon
05:17.18Tekkuband I need leadership
05:20.36mjcou can't /archud options when dead
05:20.39mjcand even if you could
05:20.45mjcevery time I die the blizzard party frame comes back
05:20.46mjcreally gay
05:21.36CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3071 10AceLibrary/AceLocale.lua: AceLocale - added :GetTable() and :GetTableStrict()
05:21.54ckknightwhat's your death have to do with sexual orientation?
05:26.29Tekkubyea I think I'll be able to do what I want, kickass
05:27.20Tekkubsimple plan, send a tell:  <TekTacTics> Polymorph >> Star
05:27.42Tekkub<TekTacTics> Tank >> Skull
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05:28.05Tekkubif the user runs the "client" mod it'll supress the tells and use them to get your assignment
05:28.24Tekkubthis is gonna be sweet
05:30.04hyperChipmunkLET ME MOVE MY FRICKIN BARS
05:31.00Tekkubokey, we got the dura and resist, raidsay and ready are now built in... we have bossmods, with use of the new icons I'm gonna fuck CTRA's assist functions in the ass, raw... what else do we need to make CTRA look worse?
05:31.01Kebinusanwtb convert my action bar setup to some less bulky action bar mod
05:31.18hyperChipmunkTekkub: a user base?
05:31.22Kebinusanhahaha
05:31.26Tekkubmeh, screw that
05:31.45Tekkubokey, bedtime
05:31.47Kebinusan.  /rainvite 60 and /razoneinvite
05:32.04Tekkubhope I can churn out the leader version of TekTacTics tomorrow after work
05:32.55Tekkubman I could do a mass icon assign on mouseover even... sweets
05:32.57KebinusanI was thinking of going through the existing bigwigs mods and adding sync functions where it seemed appropriate
05:33.02Tekkub*evil plans*
05:33.10CIA-1003ckknight 07TestSuite * r3072 10AceLibrary/ (AceLocale-7.lua AceLocale-8.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceLocale-7.lua and AceLocale-8.lua
05:33.23Kebinusanlike chromaggus breaths, wing buffets
05:34.49ckknightadvice:
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05:35.31ckknightshould I have AceConsole automatically add certain inputs? e.g. standby, info, report
05:35.44KebinusanI know, you need a bayesian type boss mod or something, it learns from your encounter wipes and deaths and tries to give appropriate warnings in the future
05:35.52Kyahxon a related note: build in ready-check sucks.
05:36.00Kyahxonly the raid leader can trigger it
05:36.05Kebinusanbleh
05:36.10Kyahxand its got that ugly blizzard look to it :P
05:36.12Kebinusanand its 30 seconds before you get feedback right?
05:36.20ckknightI think that you can totally replace DKP with RPS-25
05:36.20Kyahxyea, and feedback is in your chat frame
05:36.38Kyahxno nice window with a list of raid members either green or red ala oRA
05:37.17Kebinusanrps-25?
05:37.59ckknighthttp://www.umop.com/rps25.htm
05:38.16ckknightzomg flash game: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/319609
05:38.47KyahxTekkub, we still need a decent raid tracker addon :P
05:38.51KyahxCT is still the only choice
05:39.18Kebinusanfreddys modified one works great
05:39.28Kyahxso does CTRA
05:39.32Kyahxdosent mean we dont want options
05:39.35Kyahxand alternatives
05:39.37Kebinusanwell
05:39.52Kebinusanit would need to have an eqdkp import plugin :-)
05:40.25ckknightI figure that you could have RPS-25 be tiered, e.g. you get a certain score depending on how badly you beat each opponent
05:40.32Kyahxthat can come later :P
05:40.39ckknighti.e. 0-24
05:40.44ckknightadd em up for every opponent
05:41.02ckknightthen you calculate
05:41.04Kebinusanwow, 25 tiered rps
05:41.15Kebinusanerr dimension
05:41.28ckknightactually you could do -12 to 12 as well
05:41.35ckknightthat way it's zero-sum
05:41.39Kebinusanlol
05:41.55ckknightbam, person on top gets a shiny new axe
05:42.00ckknightperfect replacement for DKP.
05:42.07Kebinusanso man beats monkey you win at a cost of 2
05:42.15ckknightyep.
05:42.37ckknightwell, it wouldn't quite work that way
05:43.32KebinusanIf anything rock paper scissors for loot should let everyone understand the importance of purple junk in the grand scheme of things
05:43.49ckknightto bring in the DKP-esque element, you could go with system that gives you points
05:43.58ckknightyou spend those points to raise your score
05:44.03weabpurple junk? you mean nexus crystals?
05:44.07Kebinusantheres a system like that
05:44.11Kebinusanlemme find a link
05:44.17ckknightKebinusan, it's gotta have RPS.
05:44.40ckknightyou know how awesome it'd be to play RPS over loot?
05:44.51ckknightespecially with like 10 people throwing
05:45.00ckknightman disproves alien ftw.
05:48.43TainThat rock paper scissors is awsome.  I was going through that a couple weeks ago.
05:49.19Kebinusanheheh
05:49.27Kebinusanyeah its called NKS
05:50.14Kebinusantheres a mod and description on curse for it, it seemed like a great concept
05:51.16Kebinusanhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/cn/wow/download-731.html for the rtf of the description
05:56.36hyperChipmunki can't figure out how this thing is keeping its bars inside the borders of the screen
05:57.29Kebinusanmaybe another mod is?
05:57.40AmadeohyperChipmunk: Bongos?
05:58.22AmadeoI love that feature in Bongos
05:58.25weabFrame XML Change - There is a new "clampToScreen" attribute, which will prevent the frame from being dragged off the screen.
05:58.26weab?
05:58.27Amadeothe whole sticky frames, it's awesome
06:00.29Amadeoanyone ever use this? Looks pretty cool
06:00.30Amadeohttp://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1740
06:01.41KyahxIm getting drustrated with bongos atm, things arent sticking like I want them to
06:02.15Amadeohave the sticky frames enabled?
06:02.36Amadeohehe
06:03.50Kyahxyes :P
06:08.55mjcaceaccept is good stuff
06:10.59KebinusanAmadeo, I was looking at that earlier today, havent tried it though
06:11.41Kebinusanmainly because its not really its own mod, you need ct_mastermod, and buffmod and itembuffs
06:11.56Amadeoyeah, same
06:12.04AmadeoAnd he states he's not a coder, and it's mostly trial and error
06:12.08Amadeoso I can't imagine it's too efficient
06:13.26Kebinusanthe concept is cool though
06:13.30Amadeovery
06:14.07Kebinusanbeen kinda half lookign for a new buff frame and action bar mod
06:14.29Kebinusanvisor seems overly complex to setup, same with flexbar
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06:17.57hyperChipmunkbongos is pissing me off
06:18.08Kebinusanand ^-- is making me second guess bongos
06:18.18hyperChipmunkits' great
06:18.28hyperChipmunkbut for some reason I can't get it back to how I want it
06:18.42hyperChipmunkI want my bars a few pixels off the edge of the screen; is that too much to ask?
06:18.48hyperChipmunkI can't even figure out what code is keeping it on there
06:25.11hyperChipmunkaha!
06:25.20hyperChipmunkSetClampedToScreen
06:25.40gnorlishHACKER
06:27.04AmadeoWhoaaaa
06:27.32hyperChipmunkthe forces of good prevail
06:27.32AmadeoMythic Entertainment was bought out by Electronic Arts
06:27.32TainYeah, poor DaoC and Warhammer Online.
06:27.51AmadeoThat's disappointing
06:27.57AmadeoI was looking forward to Warhammer Online
06:28.11TainI would have liked to see a good Warhammer Online, not that Mythic was going to do as much as people would have liked, but now it's just doomed.
06:28.28AmadeoYeah
06:28.42Amadeoand so is Vanguard
06:29.22AmadeoCan't f'ing believe Brad McQuaid went with SOE
06:29.59TainThe Penny Arcade comic about it was perfect.
06:30.26Amadeooh?
06:33.03TainFound it!  http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/05/10
06:36.15Amadeohahahaha
06:36.30AmadeoI used to love Smedley
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06:36.52Amadeoback when it was pre-SOE, he was awesome, possibly the most passionate about EQ
06:40.22AmadeoWhat level can I do BRD as a Warrior?
06:40.33TainThe thing is I still think Brad was the one who reigned everyone in and kept things under control.  Once he was gone the game went nuts with absurd equipment and jacking levels up just to keep people paying.
06:41.27ckknightElkano, you owe me a tithin
06:41.30ckknighttithing*
06:41.41Elkanohmm?
06:42.02AmadeoTain: I'm not sure that was Brad though, I think it was just SOE in general, and I expect the exact thing to happen with Vanguard now
06:42.09AmadeoThe publisher has the power, not the developer
06:43.18Amadeoat least when money talks
06:43.54ckknightElkano, I have +v for assorted reasons, thus you owe me a tithing
06:43.56ckknightAmadeo too
06:44.38CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3073 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon.lua AceChatCmd.lua AceConsole.lua):
06:44.38CIA-10AceAddon - fixed bug with AceDB.
06:44.38CIA-10AceConsole - added default chat commands (report, standby, about, profile)
06:44.44MoonWolfhow is the patch madness going /
06:44.45ckknightaw
06:44.46MoonWolf?*
06:44.49ckknightyou're no fun
06:44.52ckknightMoonWolf, hrm?
06:45.03ckknightwell
06:45.05ckknightrather mad
06:45.08MoonWolfsites, complaining, the svn.
06:45.12ckknightwell, not as mad as last time
06:45.17Elkanosorry, ck, but I still don't get it ^^
06:45.19ckknightbut mad nonetheless
06:45.19MoonWolfthe general crazy things that happen.
06:45.36ckknightElkano, a tithing is when vassals give their lords 10% of their earnings
06:45.54ckknightMoonWolf, I've placed in the final piece of Ace2
06:45.54Amadeockknight: I don't have any money for Kaelten
06:46.23ckknightvassals only tithe to their own lords, who then tithe to the King
06:46.30Elkanowell, I'm already doing your work, so what do you want? ;)
06:46.31Amadeohaha
06:46.36Amadeooh I see
06:46.39ckknightyep
06:46.46ckknightVassalship is pretty complicated
06:46.56ckknightso many oaths.
06:47.53CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3074 10AceLibrary/AceConsole.lua: AceConsole - changed :Report() to :PrintReport()
06:48.06MoonWolfaceconsole ?
06:48.08ckknight"I will to my lord be true and faithful, and love all which he loves, and shun all which he shuns"
06:48.13MoonWolfis that the new ace command ?
06:48.16TainI rob from the rich and give to the whores.
06:48.17ckknightyep.
06:48.23ckknightAceConsole deals with chat IO
06:48.36MoonWolfbasically the same deal ?
06:48.39ckknightyep.
06:48.46ckknightonly with a better name
06:48.57ckknightwell, clearer
06:49.04ckknightpretty much.
06:49.25ckknightdon't know how to get :PrintReport() to work
06:49.35ckknightI kinda want it to be automatic
06:54.19ckknightI also need to make a global /ace command
06:54.31ckknightone issue with that is that Ace1 may replace it
06:54.35ckknightor it might replace Ace1's
06:57.13ckknightso I might just have /ace2
06:57.24MoonWolfmaybe we need a serious new name for ace2 ?
06:57.28mjc<PROTECTED>
06:57.35mjc<PROTECTED>
06:58.46ckknightMoonWolf may be right.
06:58.56Neronix`sleepHmm
06:58.59ckknightbut then again, Ace already has branding.
06:59.04Neronix`sleepTrump?
06:59.19ckknightfrom all the marketing books I've read, it may not be for the best
06:59.20MoonWolfdouce
06:59.23ckknightDeuce
06:59.28MoonWolfright
06:59.29ckknightgranted, it is a whole new product
06:59.42MoonWolfwell, khaos and cosmos worked out fine.
06:59.43ckknightand we already have wowace.com
06:59.49ckknight#wowace
06:59.51ckknightet.
06:59.54ckknightetc.*
07:00.12MoonWolfright
07:00.24MoonWolfbut during the transition phase wich may last up to well
07:00.26MoonWolfa long time
07:00.31ckknightnot on my watch.
07:00.46MoonWolfseeing as ace1 wont really brake and certain mods wont get updated.
07:00.54hyperChipmunkckknight: on your watch, everything is in transition
07:00.58ckknightAce1 and Ace2 should live side by side
07:01.07TainIt's in German, but you get the idea from the pictures.  972 ways to open a beer bottle.   http://stuff.twoday.net/
07:01.15ckknighthyperChipmunk, no, everyone else is merely out of date.
07:01.16TainSide by side, like ebony and ivory.
07:01.32ckknightin perfect harmony.
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07:07.12CIA-1003neronix 07Neronix * r3075 10Lexan-Ace2/ (Lexan.lua Lexan.toc):
07:07.12CIA-10Lexan (Ace2 conversion)
07:07.12CIA-10- Changed references to AceChatCmd to AceConsole
07:07.13CIA-10- I still need to test this :(
07:07.49Neronix`sleepAnd I can't until after school
07:11.15AmadeoSpeaking of testing, I'm going to go beta test my bed
07:13.08kergothckknight, honestly, it might be good to lose the old branding.  just as with cosmos, there's still some irrational adversity to it
07:16.04TainThat is true, but I do think you'd have to look at whether that's more pervasive than the positive connotations that other people have.
07:17.09TainPlus if the idea with Ace2 is to embed then will it be to the point that people won't have to actually download an Ace component at all?  Will it all be embedded libs with addons?
07:24.35ckknightkergoth, lousy cosmos.
07:24.53ckknightTain, Ace no longer exists.
07:24.56ckknightin that case
07:25.00ckknightAce becomes an idea
07:25.04ckknightnot an entity
07:25.27ckknightmore becomes a philosophy on how to do things
07:25.33ckknightwith some handy libraries to do them with
07:25.48ckknightbut what qualifies a library/addon as being Ace'd now?
07:26.00ckknightis it using AceLibraries? using AceAddon?
07:26.10ckknightthey aren't required to hold the same philosophy
07:26.38ckknightand what qualifies my library as being Ace'd? Is it that I register with AceLibrary?
07:29.41weabace always has seemed to me more philosophy than library
07:29.52ckknightright.
07:30.08ckknightwe need to define the philosophy outright
07:30.25weabto what end
07:30.37ckknightfor people to see that they adhere to it
07:30.42ckknightI'd say
07:33.06ckknightI think it has to do with minimal memory usage, minimal CPU usage, modularity, Object Orientation (if it makes sense)
07:34.07Shyvaace is for me just an easy base to start my addon on, that's all, loads of things I don't need to do, but which ace does, that's ace for me :)
07:34.53ckknightyea, pretty much
07:35.23ckknightbut given that you use part of Ace, is your addons still Ace'd?
07:35.30ckknightwhat if you use only one bit?
07:35.38ckknightwhat is the defining point?
07:36.01Shyvabecuase the other addons use the other parts, but yea, I understand what you mean :)
07:36.18mjcif it uses as many features as necessary to complete the task ?
07:36.40mjcor
07:36.50mjcif it tries not to duplicate ace's functionality
07:36.52mjchow'sh tat
07:37.29ckknightalso, because of the modularity, what determines a part of Ace now?
07:37.55ckknighteverything is modular, plug-and-play style
07:38.09MoonWolfdont hurt my head
07:38.13MoonWolfits to early for hurting my head.
07:38.29mjchen it just has to meet the minimal thing
07:38.36ckknightwhat minimal thing?
07:39.01sedatedChipmunkwhat does it matters; it's embedded anyway
07:39.10sedatedChipmunkno need to distinguish
07:39.31sedatedChipmunkbecause there's no need to tie them together with anything exterior
07:49.44Wobinoh AceConsole is Ace2ChatCmds?
07:51.12ckknightyes
07:52.07WobinIs there the option for empty arguments to run a function?
07:53.12Wobineg, at the moment, I can't have just '/pk' to open and close the bags, I need '/pk open' or something
07:53.28ckknightyes.
07:53.40Wobinwoohoo
07:54.14ckknightMyAddon:RegisterInputCommand({ "/pk" }, { method = "ToggleBags" })
07:54.58ckknightnote: you can register more than one command/set of commands per addon
07:56.31ckknighthey, how does "|cffffffff thing |cffff0000 boom |r |r" look?
07:56.43ckknightdoes it fuck up royally or what's the deal with that?
07:58.19ElkanoI love lectures where the prof is writing sth on the table not noticing that windows just made an automatic update and will reboot soon, taking his whole presentation down ^^
07:59.01ckknightlol.
08:02.22Elkano"this finishes the proof, right in time for our break and... uhmm... the system went down... Oo"
08:06.32Wobinrofl
08:06.57Wobin"Put up, or Shut Up" - Uwe Boll challenges his detractors to a boxing match - http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=24707327&sid=6152650
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08:20.53CIA-10BigWigs (C'Thun):
08:20.53CIA-10* Added warning for ending of Dark Glare to assume positions again.
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08:28.24ckknight_like what AceOptions was doing/planning on doing
08:29.05MoonWolfstrings / number specific stuff ?
08:29.11ShyvaAceOptions was the gui right? that used same kind of input as the cmd thingie?
08:29.16MoonWolfckknight_, while aceoptions is still somewhat liquid
08:29.38MoonWolfhow about an option to space seperate the input string
08:31.37ckknight_space separate?
08:32.18MoonWolfwhen you do /command something 1 2 3 4 abba pineapple
08:32.23ckknight_yea
08:32.31MoonWolfeverything after something becomes a single var
08:32.44ckknight_MoonWolf, hate to break it to you, but it already does that
08:32.57ckknight_self:SomethingMeth(1, 2, 3, 4, "abba", "pineapple")
08:33.06ckknight_yes, it properly turns strings into numbers
08:33.13MoonWolfkk
08:33.30ckknight_currently all inputs are of type "text", which includes a validate function
08:33.35ckknight_there should be other types, too
08:33.40ckknight_such as "bool"
08:33.52ckknight_"range" (with a start and an end)
08:33.59ckknight_um
08:34.45ckknight_"func", which flat out executes a command
08:34.54ckknight_(no getter)
08:35.07ckknight_anyone have any other ideas?
08:35.16ckknight_I'd like to know...
08:35.45ckknight_this would also allow for easier transition to GUI
08:36.31MoonWolftoggle ?
08:36.35ckknight_"set", which is like "text", but only from a specified arbitrary set
08:36.38ckknight_toggle is "bool"
08:36.43ckknight_that should be called toggle, though
08:37.06ckknight_set'd be good for { "warrior", "hunter", "rogue", "mage" } etc.
08:37.13MoonWolfyeah
08:37.28ckknight_it'd also be able to make standardized usage statements from these
08:38.06ckknight_"text", "toggle", "func", "set", "range"
08:38.11MoonWolfi have a command that takes chat, yell, emote, guild, officer, and the 1/8 channels
08:38.20MoonWolfhow would i handle that in this system ?
08:38.29ckknight_"set"
08:38.44ckknight_{"chat", "yell", "emote", "guild", "officer", 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 }
08:38.51MoonWolfi cant combine set with range ?
08:39.01ckknight_no combining
08:39.05MoonWolfk
08:39.11ckknight_it'd be like a select statement in HTML
08:39.22ckknight_with multiple defined options
08:39.26MoonWolfyeah
08:39.31MoonWolfmakes sense
08:39.43ckknight_radio buttons, essentially
08:39.51ckknight_"func" would be a pushbutton
08:39.57ckknight_"toggle" would be a checkbox
08:40.02ckknight_"text" would be an edit box
08:40.08ckknight_"range" would be a slider
08:40.39ckknight_I'll put in a specialized "color" one
08:40.45ckknight_I think
08:40.51ckknight_that'll pop up that color wheel
08:41.22Shyvasounds cool :)
08:41.35ckknight_basically, I want to be able to easily feed the table into both Dewdrop and AceConsole
08:41.43MoonWolfyeah
08:41.58MoonWolfthe color picker is actually one of the bets colour pickers in games ever.
08:42.09ckknight_it's pretty good
08:42.12MoonWolfbest*
08:42.30MoonWolfthe fact that it handles alpha is cool too
08:42.34ckknight_yep
08:43.54ckknight_sounds workable, though, like you'd be comfortable using this?
08:46.38Mikmamorning all
08:46.57ckknight_hey Mikma
08:47.05mjchey Mikma
08:47.23MoonWolfid be fine working with this system.
08:47.42CodayusHmm, is there an addon like myBindings that works in 1.11?
08:48.04ckknight_my head...
08:48.26Mikmaso how's the 1.11 working so far
08:49.07ckknightokay, the types will be "func","toggle", "text", "range", "set", and "color"
08:49.16ckknightseems like there should be a better name for func
08:49.17MoonWolfcolour!!!
08:49.20mjcfunc?
08:49.28MoonWolfexec ?
08:49.33ckknightexec it is.
08:49.34MoonWolfas in execute
08:49.35ckknightsorry, enUS, not enGB
08:49.55ckknightactually, "execute"'d be better
08:50.09ckknight"execute", "toggle", "text", "range", "set", and "color"
08:50.18ckknightcan anyone think of anything else?
08:50.18MoonWolfgreat.
08:50.27MoonWolfnot at the moment.
08:50.30mjcglob?
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08:50.34ckknightglob?
08:50.40ckknightpretty sure that'd be text.
08:50.58[Wobin]gah
08:51.08ckknighthey fake Wobin
08:51.11mjcyeah, sorry
08:51.19mjc5am here
08:51.27ckknight11pm here :-P
08:51.46ckknightdamn Daily Show, download faster
08:52.25Wobinoh ckknight, there was a bug with the current AceChatcmds that if you had '/myaddon option1 option1argument' it would take out the 'option1' from the arguement as well
08:52.47ckknighthrm
08:52.52ckknightshouldn't do that now
08:52.53Wobinso like /womble frog frogcabbage, it'd only return 'cabbage' as the argument
08:53.12ckknightit splits it up to a table and feeds the unpacked table to the handler
08:53.58ckknightit tokenizes the arguments
08:53.59ckknightparses it
08:54.04ckknightfind the correct level
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08:54.13ckknightpasses the arguments to the correct handler
08:54.23ckknightalso, all tokens are checked to see if they are numbers
08:54.29ckknightif they are, they are properly fed in
08:54.43ckknighterr
08:54.43ckknightchanged to numbers
08:55.18ckknightwell, time to watch Daily Show and the Colbert Report
08:55.20Wobinhurrah =)
08:56.16ckknightwill write this after tv time
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09:09.32ckknightlol, "while there is no 'i' in 'team', there are two in 'dickishness'"
09:09.54Mikmahehe
09:10.32MoonWolflol
09:14.54MoonWolfIndustrial, looks like you get your dream
09:14.56MoonWolfhttp://worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/
09:15.06MoonWolf"  While the Battlegrounds are about to receive a major upgrade of their own, players interested in World PvP will be glad to hear that patch 1.12 will introduce a brand-new type of PvP content to the game. The stage is set for objective-based land battles of truly epic proportions as Horde and Alliance vie for control over important strategic positions and resources around Azeroth. Stay tuned for more news about these new world PvP en
09:15.07MoonWolfhancements coming to World of Warcraft."
09:15.54Shyvathat's an fast update :o
09:16.39MoonWolfi think 1.12 has been getting development from another team separete from the raiding instance team
09:17.05MoonWolfso while we were drooling/getting bored by naxx, blizz has been working on the pvp stuff too
09:17.10MoonWolfdoesnt mean it will be in soon.
09:18.18Shyva3 months I think
09:18.24ckknightprobably
09:18.39ckknightwhen do you predict Burning Crusade?
09:18.58Shyvadecember
09:19.29Shyvaso about 3 months after 1.12
09:24.25haste_good morning
09:24.49ShyvaYow haste
09:28.21hastehmm, EU not even allowed to patch before the servers are up today?
09:28.40Shyvanopes..
09:29.22MoonWolf:(
09:29.31MoonWolfi wanted start the patcher download before i went to work
09:29.35MoonWolfbut no go :9
09:29.37MoonWolf:(*
09:30.02hasteI'm not leaving for work untill 14:30, so I get som time to fix addons if any there are any problems
09:30.14MoonWolfmost wont
09:30.22MoonWolfmost things were additions not changes.
09:30.24hastes/if any/if/
09:30.38hasteyes, but you never know what Blizzard breaks :p
09:31.16haste1.7: WF effect broke, 1.10: WF effect fixed, 1.10.1: WF effect broke again
09:42.56CIA-1003neriak * r3078 10BigWigs/AQ40/ (BugFamily.lua Sartura.lua Skeram.lua):
09:42.56CIA-10BigWigs: Added some AQ40 german localization.
09:42.56CIA-10tried to fix error in BugFamily mod (when you hovered over a boss and mod was activated, you did get an error message: BigWigs\\AQ40\\BugFamily.lua:83: bad argument #1 to `find' (string expected, got nil)\ )
09:42.56CIA-10same for line 98,100 and 101. I guess it was because BigWigs:Message event was registered to the fear check, so I commented it out and got no more errors.
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09:46.28CIA-1003otravi 07otravi * r3079 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Removed the code that made it run on 1.10.
09:53.18MoonWolfhaste :OOO
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09:55.01hasteI used a global tableswhich only was avaible in 1.11
10:04.54hasteEU servers are up
10:04.57hastelogin at least
10:10.57CIA-1003neriak * r3080 10BigWigs/BWL/Chromaggus.lua: BigWigs: changed DE localization for Chromaggus, still trying to get the timer bar working for Ignite Flesh, which is Fleisch entz\195\188nden in german. Maybe it's the search pattern not catching it :-/
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10:24.31SlaymanAny of you has a suitable Link for the enGB Patch 1.11 ?
10:28.00Shyvahaste, do you have the patch downloader?
10:29.08haste84% in-game currently
10:29.14Shyva:(
10:29.24Shyvaif you have it, can you rip the torrent for me?
10:29.49hasteI don't have any tools to do that tho' :<
10:30.14Shyvasearch google for: WoWTorrentEx =)
10:30.48hasteI'll do it soon, just going to finish this episode of Chappelle's show
10:31.22Shyva^^
10:35.02wereHamsterShyva, a small shell script to extract the torrent from the downloader: dbservice.com/tom/downloadPatches.sh .. but you may need to change the offset because it changed some patch versions ago
10:36.46Shyvadoesn't WoWTorrentEx work good?
10:37.45wereHamster.. just in case you'd be running linux ;)
10:38.20Shyvaoh, no, I'm just a normal windows user :p thanks anyways ^_-
10:39.23haste*wgets*
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10:45.03hasteShyva, http://fuxsake.net/filer/WoW-1.10.2.5302-to-1.11.0.5428-enGB-patch.torrent << should be the correct one
10:45.35wereHamsterhaste, in case you have 'ctoorrent', you can add 'ctorrent -e 0 $torrentFile' to the end of the loop and it will automatically download all patches ;)
10:45.56ShyvaIt gives an error in utorrent Haste
10:46.15hasteShyva, I'll just upload the downloader :p
10:46.19wereHamstererror,initial meta info failed.
10:46.20Shyva:-D
10:46.32Shyva^_-
10:46.47Shyvait's good to be lazy, else you would be tired all day long ;o
10:47.17wereHamsterShyva, did you use WoWTorrentEx?
10:47.19hastehttp://fuxsake.net/filer/WoW-1.10.2.5302-to-1.11.0.5428-enGB-downloader.exe
10:47.45wereHamster.. that question should go to haste ;)
10:47.56Shyvacheer haste
10:47.59Shyva*cheers
10:48.01hasteno, I used the little bash script
10:48.24hastethe tracker is currently down tho'
10:49.17wereHamsterthe script won't work for all downloaders :(
10:49.47hasteI couldn't be arsed to change it and try again :p
10:50.50wereHamsterhttp://www.dbservice.com/ftpdir/tom/WoW-1.10.2.5302-to-1.11.0.5428-enGB-patch.torrent
10:51.32hasteI'll just use the Blizzard downloader ;)
10:51.36CIA-1003neriak * r3081 10BossBlock/Core.lua: BossBlock: added an addon cmd /bossblock so you can do a /bossblock standby
10:51.36hasteleaving for work soon anyway
10:52.50Makk12:53:38 < haste> the tracker is currently down tho'
10:52.52Makkyeah
10:52.55Makksux
10:53.22hastenot much of a problem for me ;)
10:53.25Makkoh?
10:53.32Shyvathey should set the tracker to thepiratbay, they know how to handle much data ;P
10:53.39Makk:P
10:53.46hasteI won't be able to play before it's downloaded anyway
10:54.44Shyvaremaining: 10m 5s
10:54.46Shyva;)
10:55.34Makk*cry* our DSL central is fuxered
10:55.50Makkit disconnects us every ~30 minutes
10:56.51CIA-1003werehamster * r3082 10PatchTorrents/enGB/ (. WoW-1.10.2.5302-to-1.11.0.5428-enGB-patch.torrent): PatchTorrents: Add enGB 1.10.2-to-1.11.0 patch torrent
11:02.26Wobinhehe useful
11:03.01Wobin"You can use the torrents on our SVN, but you must learn how to use a SVN client"
11:03.09Wobin(well not really, but it'd be nice to say that =P)
11:07.58Mikmago blizzard!
11:12.19[Ammo]eeep Yauj will heal Kri and vem during the fight
11:12.29[Ammo]need to keep her well away from Kri then :)
11:16.51hastejust killl her first?
11:17.36wereHamsterdoes she heal herself, too?
11:18.07[Ammo]yeah she heals herself to
11:18.19[Ammo]well if you kill her first, kri becomes pretty damn ugly :p
11:18.22[Ammo]but we'll see
11:18.36[Ammo]I guess people were taking the easy way all the time, killing kri, then yauj then vem
11:18.43[Ammo]and blizzard wanted people to consider other optios
11:19.05[Ammo]with the loottable not being enough incentive I guess tehy changed the fight
11:20.01Mikma~stab Blizzard
11:20.02purlACTION runs at Blizzard with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
11:20.19MoonWolfhehe
11:24.19hasteextended maintaince :(
11:24.26hasteand "we don't have a ETA"
11:25.11Mikma4% downloaded
11:29.15phyberI heard that onyxia deep breaths more in this patch
11:29.25phyber;)
11:29.28phyberhi :)
11:29.55phyberpurl: where are the mirrors for the enGB 1.11 patch?
11:29.57purlI think you lost me on that one, phyber
11:31.04Mikmapurl: that's because your stupid
11:31.16phyberoh, the torrent is in the SVN.  nice, I'll just use that.
11:32.01Mikmahmm..
11:32.05Mikmapurl: who's your daddy?
11:32.07purlYOU are, Mr Sexy Pants!
11:34.26MoonWolflol
11:35.12phyber$ bittorrent-console WoW-1.10.2.5302-to-1.11.0.5428-enGB-patch.torrent
11:35.12phyberinvalid bencoded value (data after valid prefix)
11:35.14phyber:(
11:35.38Mikma26% with wowloader... and this one is in game :P
11:35.45Mikmafor some reason heh
11:36.23hastephyber, get a better client !
11:36.26hastetry rtorrent :p
11:38.54phyberbah, "install libs x,y and z before you compile"
11:39.02hasteget gentoo
11:39.04hasteor debian
11:39.39phyberstrange flags in libtorrent
11:39.39phyber<PROTECTED>
11:39.53phyberwhy would a lib even care about the filesystem :|
11:41.19phyberdebian really irritated me recently.   i hate their method of compiling modules for kernels.
11:41.55phybersomeone rebooted one of my remote boxes that has a few loop-aes filesystems.  debian suddently decided to not like multi-key-v3 support on loop-aes anymore.
11:42.20phyberI ripped out their crappy kernel packages and installed one the Good Old Fashioned Way (TM)
11:42.26phyberfixed it right up.
11:43.22hasteI would guess it checks,
11:43.31hasteI would guess it checks, 'cause it can optimize towards filesystem X
11:44.53phyberyay! friend at a university is going to mirror the patch once it's done :)
11:47.14MoonWolfhehe
11:47.15MoonWolfgrats
11:47.36hasteservers aren't up anyway :p
11:47.44MoonWolfhehe
11:47.51MoonWolfim stuck here for another 3 hours.
11:48.08hasteI'm leaving soon :(
11:48.24hasteI don't even know when I'm finished at work today :p
11:48.41MoonWolfyou dont know /
11:48.45MoonWolfno fixed times ?
11:49.13phyberI'm at work anyway, another 4 hours.  but I want to wget the patch at home so it's all ready for when i get there :)
11:49.14hasteit's work untill it's done basicly
11:49.32hasteand it's a lot of overtime atm
11:49.37hastebut that is optional also
11:49.42MoonWolfeeeuh
11:50.15hasteI'm most likely moving soon
11:50.27hasteso I'll just work untill I hit the "you have to pay taxes" limit
11:50.55MoonWolf:D
11:54.40hasteI'm leaving now, bye ^^
11:54.53MoonWolfcya
11:56.54phyberbye.
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12:07.26Mikmafuckings to blizzard, tracker is down etc
12:08.04ShyvaRESULT: Patch failed :-/
12:08.51Elkanouse DHT
12:09.11Mikma128 MB of 152 MB, Less than 2 minutes... been that for 5min :/
12:09.50Shyvathe 128 mb you got are downloaded by the background downloader
12:10.05MoonWolfyep
12:10.09MoonWolfartwork and the likes.
12:10.39Mikmayeap
12:10.56MikmaTracker is not responding :)
12:11.24[Ammo]indeed meh
12:11.49ShyvaI got the 3 files.. but it errors when I start the patch, now that's Meh
12:13.19Mikmawow, 129MB
12:15.36Mikmabut i'm le tired. ok have a nap THEN FIRE ZE MISSILES! ->
12:16.27Shyva"the end of the world" ^^
12:23.20[ven]it says my computer appears to be behind a firewall :o
12:24.37Makkhmm
12:24.52MakkMany broken addons?
12:25.31HoJ|SlaymanLink for the torrent to the   enGB  patch 1.11 from 1.10  ->   http://rapidshare.de/files/23679539/WoW-1.10.2.5302-to-1.11.0.5428-enGB-patch.torrent.html   <-
12:32.25KaeltenAwayI always download the patch from fileplanet
12:32.56Shyvabut the service in the EU is so bad, that it take a week before their patches are on fileplanet :-.
12:32.59Shyva* :-/
12:33.07KaeltenAwayah
12:34.05[Ammo]shyva: it's usually pretty quick on: http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/games/
12:34.31[Ammo]still not there though :(
12:34.32[Ammo]http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/games/worldofwarcraft/patches/enGB/
12:34.34[Ammo]etc
12:35.48ShyvaI know, it was always fast their, until 1.10, then it took them a week or something to get it there..
12:36.00ShyvaI used that site ever before
12:38.04ShyvaI guess I have to reinstall my game.. stupid errors :(
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13:03.18Industrial<@MoonWolf> Industrial, looks like you get your dream
13:03.22Industrialfuck yes, FUCK YES
13:03.25Industrialwohooo
13:03.32Mikmawhat dream
13:03.38ShyvaWorld pvp
13:03.40MoonWolfhe wanted seiges.
13:03.42Industrialsiege combat >:)
13:03.45MoonWolfsieges*
13:03.49phyber?
13:03.53MoonWolflooks like he can have them
13:04.00Industrialwell i hope
13:04.06MoonWolfhttp://worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/
13:04.45IndustrialHow about needing blacksmithing and engineering and enchanting etc to build a iege weapon
13:04.49Industrialfor your guild or faction
13:04.56phybercross-realm battlegrounds, interesting.
13:05.12MoonWolfseige weapons were not mentioned indu
13:05.19Industriali know
13:05.20Industrial:P
13:05.59MoonWolfalthough the faire tanks might have been practice material for making seige weapons....
13:06.01MoonWolfwe can hope.
13:16.39Mikmayayh got the game patched
13:16.43Mikmabut realms are still offline
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13:27.10Mikmaok, another time to fire ze missiles ->
13:29.20phyberI have a link to the wow-final.mpq if people still need it.
13:29.24phyberjust don't pass the link around :)
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13:40.34MoonWolfim already downloading one
13:40.36MoonWolffrom work.
13:41.16MoonWolfnormally i dont do that
13:41.21MoonWolfbut since the MIRROR is down.
13:41.30MoonWolfand i have not started yet
13:41.35MoonWolfeeuh TRACKER
13:41.37MoonWolfnot mirror
13:41.56MoonWolfthats not a very nice view on getting the patch via blizz downloader.
13:42.56Industrialwtf
13:42.57Industrialis up
13:43.01Industrialwith the tracker
13:43.09MoonWolfits not up
13:43.09Industrialstalling on 84%
13:43.11MoonWolfthat is the point
13:43.15MoonWolfthe tracker is not up.
13:43.21Industrialboo :(
13:43.35MoonWolfno trackers = no peers  no peers = no downloading.
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13:49.34Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1564.0.html
13:49.42Industrialbottomleft damage thingy
13:49.44Industrialthats great
13:51.45Shyvathe druid 3/5 frame is so cool!
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14:00.51TainHey Hulk Hogan is selling his house.  Only $25 million!
14:01.49phyberhmm, take out a 25 year mortgage, $1million/year.  easy to pay for!
14:04.40IndustrialA new LEGENDARY item quest has been added! Casters rejoice (and druits too)!
14:04.44Industrialdruids*
14:04.48Industrial:-O
14:05.12Shyvadruids aren't casters.. Pfffff
14:05.36Industrialyou dont want to meet a rank 14 shaman
14:05.39Industrial:-)
14:06.03Industrial(so i guess druid neither)
14:07.17Industrialratchet flight point
14:07.19Industrialyay
14:07.29Shyva:)
14:08.08phyberjust handed my notice in here.  that was awkward, because I wasn't even here for a month yet and the people are really nice.
14:09.35Industrialwell.. ya.. :P
14:10.41Shyvaforums are up again :) (wow eu)
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14:15.56WobinKyahx|sleep: An idea for your
14:16.01Wobinbleh
14:16.04Wobinoh cool flightpoints
14:16.49MoonWolfphyber, why then ?
14:17.25phyberMoonWolf: new job is better.  Sys Admin / Software Engineer.
14:17.34phyberalso, more pay.
14:17.38MoonWolfaha
14:17.48MoonWolfweird combo
14:17.54MoonWolfnot a very large company /
14:17.56MoonWolf?*
14:18.08phybernah, it's not.
14:18.09phyberhttp://www.ipec.co.uk/jobs.php
14:18.45phybergetting bigger though, they are starting to sub-contract some of the work since demand is getting too much for them.
14:18.46MoonWolfsounds cool
14:19.09phyberyeah, it should be interesting.  really cool stuff to work with :)
14:29.39WobinThat's a really odd combination =)
14:29.58Wobinlinux admin, C/C++, Perl, PHP, SQL (pref. postgres), HTML/CSS
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14:44.53phyberhttp://imdb.com/title/tt0805537/
14:45.01phyberGhostbusters in Hell
14:45.02phyber:|
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14:51.10mjcrofl
14:53.09phybertelnet pinguin.eikon2.fs.ei.tum.de 2006
14:53.20phyberportugal - mexico match via telnet :)
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15:03.15Neronixafternoon
15:04.17mjchey.
15:08.21wereHamsterphyber, is that TV ?
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15:11.53phyberwereHamster: yeah, I think it's live.
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15:38.45Makkserver up!
15:39.48MoonWolfwhat server in specific ?
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15:51.14Neronixnetcurse: Hehe, "Users Online: Too many"
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15:56.47NeronixDear god
15:57.05NeronixOwe Boll has challenged his critics a boxing match
15:57.08NeronixI kid you not
15:57.21NeronixEr, Uwe Boll
15:57.23MoonWolfIndustrial, someone wants to fight you.
15:57.29TainYeah, saw that last week.  Lowtax from Something Awful claims he's going out there.
15:57.48TainIt's all going to be filmed and in whatever godawful movie he's doing now.
15:58.06MoonWolfwe should make industrial go
15:58.25MoonWolfand im sure a few other people that do dangerous sports that like games and hate uwe boll are out there.
15:58.39MoonWolfwe can beat the living shit out of him!
15:59.52Neronixhttp://ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060621.jpg
16:10.27Industrial<@MoonWolf> Industrial, someone wants to fight you.
16:10.28Industrial?
16:11.55MoonWolfuwe boll
16:18.24NeronixShould I call the lib AceUtils2 to avoid confusion with the old AceUtil?
16:21.23WobinWhat was the old AceUtil?
16:21.36Wobin(and actually by that response I kinda show it's probably not necessary =))
16:21.55IndustrialMoonWolf: uhh/
16:21.58Industrial*confused*
16:23.03NeronixIndustrial: Scroll up
16:23.52NeronixWobin: A bunch of utility functions that were registered in a way that's like the embed system, but on some serious crack
16:24.10IndustrialNeronix: im not seeing it. at what time? (GMT)
16:24.15WobinJust use Ace2Utils if you really need to differentiate =)
16:24.33NeronixFrom 18:04 CET on wards
16:24.38Neronixs/on /on/
16:25.45Industrial*shrug*
16:26.43NeronixOk, Uwe Boll challenged his critics to a boxing match
16:26.55NeronixUwe Boll = Nasty director who does game movies
16:27.07Industriallol
16:27.08Industrial:P
16:27.37NeronixResponsible for grotesque beasts such as the House of the Dead and Silent Hill movies
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16:39.45phyber:|
16:39.51phyberwhy is my patch failing :(
16:40.00phyberERROR: unknown command on line 6 of file patch.cmd
16:41.33HoJ|SlaymanGuys u know how to simply suppress the standard error frame ?
16:42.27IndustrialWhy would you want to do that?
16:42.50HoJ|Slaymansomeone uses Perl and it's putting errors all along, i have almost no problems
16:43.11IndustrialHow can the solution be to hide the error
16:43.18HoJ|Slaymanmybindings doesn't work anymore at all and somehow XRaid Frames cannot target of spells ....
16:43.29Industrialbecause of the new update?
16:44.25HoJ|SlaymanIndustrial: regarding Perl, i don't know i don't care I'm not using it, regarding mybindings: YES regarding XRaid no was in 1.10 the same issue
16:46.00Industrialwell um, hiding the error cant ever be the solution
16:46.01Industrial:P
16:46.46Industrialits like not washing the sand of fruit that you dropped and eating it like that - pretending nothing happened
16:46.49Industrial:P
16:48.29TainThat's not sand, it's seasoning.
16:48.32TainHerbs and spices.
16:55.59HoJ|Slaymanand as we are once more going to BWL to farm our asses off, why can't i spelltarget an XRaid Unitframe?
16:59.33Neronixclad|afk: did you get my botmail?
17:00.24mjcxraid uses too much memory for my liking
17:01.18WobinSand?
17:01.22WobinWe call them Bush Croutons
17:01.26mjchaha
17:01.39WobinWhen you're out in the bush, it's the crunchy stuff that ends up in your meals
17:02.06TainBad touch!
17:08.23wereHamsterWobin, when can we expect MrPlow to know about the keyring ?
17:08.37WobinAs in moving a key to it?
17:08.57wereHamsteryes
17:09.00WobinI'm not sure if it exists as a separate entity or not
17:09.07phybersage is broken :(
17:09.07mjcit does it already for me
17:09.09Wobinie what inventory slot it is etc
17:09.21wereHamster.. and skeletin keys can't be put into the keyring bag :(
17:09.25Wobinno =(
17:09.45wereHamsterhow stupid.. I have a total of three normal keys
17:09.55wereHamsterand two stacks of skeleton keys
17:10.10[ven]two bad seal of ascension doesnt go into that bag :o
17:10.21WobinOr Ony's necklace
17:10.24Wobinor the Maraudon sceptre
17:10.39mjcrelic coffer keys
17:10.44[ven]gnomeregan teleport thingy :o
17:16.57mjcteleport thingy?
17:18.44[ven]horde needs to teleport into gnomeregan from bb and therefore u need something which is called "Goblin Transponder"
17:21.25Wobinhm, anyone had any issues with MrPlow and the new stack sizes?
17:21.33mjcah
17:21.33Mikmaumh wow
17:21.57mjcWobin: not I
17:21.57mjcPT gets its stack info from the game
17:21.57Mikmablizzard has made a support for keybinds in actionbars, they are showing now
17:22.07mjcyep
17:22.56WobinI have to say, the alliance have easy mode for the Midsummer Quests
17:22.58Mikmaif i'm not mistaken, mouseovering the buttons in charactermenu also has new images
17:23.17MoonWolfI think that key's that are actually equipment items should not go in it.
17:23.30MoonWolfbut the pasive non key inventory items should.
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17:24.35mjcI dunno I kinda want to put my drakefire amulet in it
17:25.05Mikmacan't you take them off from there?
17:25.35mjcKaeltenAway: ping
17:25.46Kyahx|sleepWobin: you had an idea for me like 3 hours again? :P
17:26.22Kyahxer...3 hours ago*
17:26.31Wobinbuttons in charoh
17:26.35WobinI ...
17:26.39mjccharoh?
17:26.44Wobinoh
17:26.48Industrialuh, where did SetAlpha go?
17:26.54mjcIndustrial: I ate it
17:26.58mjcwas kind of tasty
17:27.04Industrialwell i want it back
17:27.06mjcbut I'm getting indigestion :x
17:27.09WobinI was going to suggest for FreeRefills for it to autobuy poison ingredients by recipe
17:27.20Wobin(like 20 Instant Poison IV)
17:27.26Wobinbut that's a bit out of scope
17:27.36Kyahxindeed
17:27.38mjcKyahx: PoisonMaster is a good place to steal code from for that
17:28.12WobinPM doesn't deal well with multiple lots of selections
17:28.16IndustrialInterface\Addons\idActionBar\idActionBar.lua:95:attempt to call method `SetAlpha' (a nil value)
17:28.22Wobinapparantly
17:28.31Kyahxheh
17:28.37mjcWobin: it's buggy yes
17:28.39Industrial<PROTECTED>
17:28.43Industrial<PROTECTED>
17:28.43Industrialthats what happens there
17:28.48mjcbut it does have the right code for obtaining hte necessary ingredient info
17:29.36WobinI'll have a look at it
17:29.59wereHamsterIndustrial, I had a similar problem with Nurfed..
17:30.05ckknightback
17:30.29wereHamstergetglobal(name..i.."NormalTexture"):SetWidth(texturesize*scale); .. and name was "PetActionBar" which apparently doesn't exist anymore
17:31.52Industrialhm
17:31.53ckknightNeronix`afk, the library name should be "AceUtils-2.0"
17:31.58Industrialim using it on actionbuttons
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17:32.21Amadeoboo
17:33.41Industrialeep
17:34.10AmadeoI know, I'm pretty scary
17:34.30IndustrialWobin: You might want to switch right click drag and shift right click drag around on PlowKing
17:34.37Industrialmore usable imo
17:34.58Wobinshiftrightclickdrag to do single movement?
17:35.31Industrialyeah
17:35.45Industrialso you can quickly drag the whole thing around
17:35.53Industrialand use shift to 'set it up'
17:35.58Wobinokay
17:36.01Industrial^_^
17:36.08Wobindamnit, why am I getting 2fps in the WP?
17:36.17WobinEspecially when I'm level 49 =P
17:36.35sedatedChipmunkbecause there's 70 billion people there
17:36.35MoonWolfdamnit
17:36.40MoonWolfinformatips broke.
17:36.40Mikmathe blizzard's ToT is pretty nice also
17:36.51AmadeoI don't like it
17:36.53Amadeocovers up buffs
17:37.21Mikmathat's true but it looks nice tho
17:37.55Amadeoyeah
17:38.45IndustrialWobin: Plowking is cool cause Now i wont have to hide my bags, ever
17:38.47Industrial:P
17:39.44Industrialguess I still could..
17:40.05wereHamsterPlowking?
17:40.38Industrialhimmmmm
17:40.42wereHamsterwhat does it do?
17:40.46Industrialstowmwind got all these torches..
17:40.58Industrialcategorized inventory wereHamster, Wobin made it
17:41.05Industrials/made/is making/
17:41.13wereHamsterhow does it differ from MrPlow?
17:42.12wereHamsterit it an addition to MrPlow or rather a replacement?
17:45.00mjccalltoarms is such a pain
17:45.00CIA-1003neronix 07Neronix * r3085 10AceUtils2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): AceUtils - Renamed back to AceUtils
17:45.15Elkanobtw: does amyone know how to use the built in TicTacToe?
17:45.19mjcWobin: I like PK but it seems like it should replace bag mods and such
17:45.39CIA-1003neronix 07Neronix * r3086 10AceUtils2/Lib/AceUtils.lua: AceUtils - Whoops
17:46.12phyberdoes anyone here know Tuller? (Sage/OmniCC/Bagnon author)
17:46.17phybergive him a poke to fix Sage :(
17:46.28mjcand commit his crap to ace svn
17:46.34phyber\o/
17:46.34Makkwhat's sage?
17:46.40phyberhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4862
17:46.44Neronix`afkBut he doesn't code with ace
17:46.50phyberunitframes
17:46.55Makkok
17:47.02mjche should
17:47.05mjcbagnon is cool
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17:47.42[Wobin]Gah
17:47.44[Wobin]Froze up
17:47.50[Wobin]Did I miss any messages?
17:48.29NeronixSince what time?
17:48.32Wobinhm
17:48.38WobinI was complaining about my 2fps =)
17:48.42Industrial<Russians in Azeroth>
17:48.44IndustrialFAIL
17:48.45WobinAt which point it turned into 0fps
17:49.29WobinIn Solviet Russia, Craft Worlds YOU
17:50.01Wobins/Worlds/WarWorlds/
17:50.40NeronixWobin: Only important messages were that Indy and mjc think PK is cool
17:50.47Wobin=)
17:50.56mjcand it needs a little work =)
17:51.02WobinAye
17:51.16WobinLemme know what features you need, what you want changed
17:51.20WobinSo I can note it down
17:54.04mjcit should hide/show on bag open event
17:54.13Neronixhmm, 7 million subscribers * 151mb = total of >1000 TB BW used per patch
17:54.34Neronixand that's solely downstream
17:55.03Wobinmjc It does
17:55.11Wobinwell it's hooked into OpenAllBags
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17:55.20WobinI could hook it into OpenBackpack as well
17:55.27mjctaht would be nice
17:55.31mjcso I don't need bagnon
17:56.32wereHamsterWobin, you missed me asking what the difference between MrPlow and PK is.. ;)
17:56.38Wobinoh
17:56.41Wobincompletely different
17:56.50Wobinone is a restacker/sorter (MrPlow)
17:56.58mjcPK is like onebag
17:57.07WobinThe other is an inventory displayer (PK)
17:57.13Wobinkind of like EngInv
17:57.16wereHamsterah.. and does it display pots when I'm in-combat etc?
17:57.20Amadeohow far along is PK?
17:57.23WobinIt will eventually =)
17:57.30TainPK is stuck in a snowbank!
17:57.41WobinI'm adding in the ability to show frames on certain events
17:57.55Wobinlike the 'empty slots' and 'junk' frames on loot
17:58.07Wobinor a potions frame (or whatever) in combat
17:58.21MoonWolfthere is now a ticket wait time indication.....
17:58.28WobinAmadeo: Have a look. it's on the SVN
17:59.07mjcWobin: attaching bag slots to Bartender bars would be really sweet
17:59.16Wobinhm
17:59.17mjcso I don't have to have a bar to clicky potions and stuff
17:59.38WobinThere will be functionality to specify the cols or rows
17:59.53WobinSo you'd essentially be able to make bars =)
18:00.08WobinI guess I could try linking them to other frames
18:00.18WobinIt'd only work if the frames were named though
18:00.28Wobinand if they loaded up before PK
18:00.32ckknighthttp://pastebin.ca/68501 <-- command tree
18:00.39ckknighttake a look at that
18:00.42ckknighttell me what you think
18:00.53wereHamsterPK has a lot externals =-O
18:00.57ckknightI think the "pass" type should have a better name or something
18:01.17Wobinhehe
18:01.36WobinPT, Metrognome, Dewdrop...
18:01.46Wobinthe more features I add in, the more externals get added on...
18:01.54WobinThere'll be tooltip scanning too
18:01.56hyperChipmunkhm
18:01.59Wobinso eventually Gratuity
18:02.27ckknightI need people to give me feedback on the command tree
18:02.37hyperChipmunkis just 'type' reserved?
18:02.55hyperChipmunkoh, right
18:03.00hyperChipmunkhm
18:03.03Wobin'pass'?
18:03.10ckknightyea, pass is odd
18:03.26WobinWhat does it signify?
18:03.27hyperChipmunkwhat to convert the string to
18:03.29hyperChipmunki assume
18:03.36hyperChipmunkwhat the function that processes it expects
18:03.37Wobinlike password?
18:03.40ckknightbasically, it is a method that has arguments, and changes based on the arguments given
18:03.42ckknightnot like password
18:03.47ckknightit was something clad had
18:03.49hyperChipmunklike now, everything from the commandline comes in as a string
18:03.55ckknightyea
18:04.05ckknightexcept numbers, which turn into numbers
18:04.07Wobinso pass it in as a number or something?
18:04.19hyperChipmunk(hopefully) this lets them be exported as something else
18:04.22Wobinor an instantiation of an object?
18:04.34ckknightWobin, what object?
18:04.56ckknightlemme put more comments...
18:05.13hyperChipmunkif i say /ace foo true
18:05.25hyperChipmunkand pass that to my function
18:05.33hyperChipmunkthe function will get 'true', not the boolean true
18:05.58hyperChipmunkpassType, I think, allows you to set what you want the type to be, other than string
18:06.11Wobinbool/int/string/?
18:06.15Wobinetc
18:06.20hyperChipmunkyea
18:06.36MoonWolfi cant righclick on my fubar anymore.....
18:06.48Wobin=\
18:06.58hyperChipmunkthat's an xraid conflict; it's on your end, MoonWolf
18:06.58WobinI'm having no problems with my FuBar
18:07.12MoonWolfdamnit
18:07.23MoonWolfill go take this operunity to update my interfaces
18:07.25hyperChipmunkyou should really fix it
18:08.18TainThis invasion stuff is nice and all but did they really have to drop down guys of level ?? in places I'm exping?
18:09.44phyberhehe
18:09.52phyberI have a rare spawn right on top of me before
18:09.57phybers/have/had/
18:10.39TainI'd be fine if they'd just put guys of appropriate level for the areas they drop them in.  All it does otherwise is make me not play.
18:10.50Kaeltenello
18:10.59MoonWolfhiya
18:11.04Kaeltenhiya
18:11.21Neronixhi
18:11.30Kaeltenhi
18:11.42mjchow goes it kae
18:11.50Kaeltenit goes
18:11.53Kaeltenhome for lunch
18:11.58mjcaha
18:12.19mjcI asked last night but passed out by accident shortly thereafter... is there some way to export my item db
18:12.49Kaeltenexport it too?
18:12.57Kaeltens/too/to/
18:13.20NeronixKaelten: Who were the original authors of AceUtil?
18:13.44KaeltenNeronix: a mix between myself, turan, and rowne for the most part
18:13.54Kaeltenalthough the core code was written by turan
18:13.57Neronixok, thanks
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18:14.04kergothmorning
18:14.05Kaeltenwhy?
18:14.09Kaeltenheya Kebinusan
18:14.13Kaeltenerr kergoth
18:14.17mjcI want to send it to you to add to the master db
18:14.37mjc42,940 items :P
18:14.41Kaeltenmjc just send me your KC_Items.lua in the saved variables section
18:14.43NeronixJust so I could give the proper credit to the original authors while writing AceUtils-2.0
18:14.53Neronixmorning kergoth
18:15.01Kaeltenhmm
18:15.29KaeltenNeronix: well really just the functions should be in a group of mixins grouped by type I'd think
18:15.50mjcalrighty
18:15.53kergotha mixin only really makes sense if you know the function needs access to the addon object as self
18:16.01kergothi'd say most utils are relatively standalone
18:16.15Kaeltenkergoth:  hmm I guess your right
18:16.24kergothhow are you planning on doing aceutils-2.0?  aceutils is just like a higher granular form of a library stub / acelibrary, really
18:16.32Mikmaumh didn't blizzard made redrange afterall?
18:16.45NeronixI'm making it as an embed that uses AceLibrary
18:16.52kergothi think so, they supposedly added a red dot to the actionbuttons when out of range
18:16.56kergothNeronix: that isnt what i mean.
18:16.56Kaeltenwe havn't really talked about AceUtils yet
18:17.11Neronixand none of the original funcs use self so I don't think I'll need a mixin
18:17.13kergothwhats the api? how do you use it? how is the versioning handled? is versioning handled the way acelibrary does?
18:17.14mjcKaelten: a wowroster plugin for KCI would be pretty neat too heh
18:17.19NeronixGood because I don't understand objects at all
18:17.33Mikmaatleast on my end the redrange ain't working
18:17.57Neronixyou do "local utils = AceLibrary("AceUtils-2.0")" to get instance like any other lib
18:17.57Kaeltenmjc: write it :)
18:18.11kergothMikma: hmm, i forgot to test it :)
18:18.17kergothNeronix: yes, AND?
18:18.18mjcKaelten: just throwing up the idea, I'm rewriting wowroster in RoR anyways
18:18.18ckknightright, Neronix
18:18.19Neronixthen stuff like utils.Foo(bar,baz) like any other lib
18:18.22kergothwhat exactly is in utils?
18:18.26kergothhow are the methods of utils versioned?
18:18.31Kaeltenhmm
18:18.33kergothaceutils had rudamentary versioning for individual utils
18:18.34kergothnot the whole
18:18.38Mikmakergoth: forgot what?
18:18.39WobinDoes anyone know a good web anonymiser, like Anonymouse, but faster? =)
18:18.57CIA-1003neriak * r3088 10AceLoot/AceLoot.toc: AceLoot: toc update
18:19.00kergothMikma: to test redrange, in the new patch.. i just went and removed the redrange addon without making sure it worked without it. hehe
18:19.06ckknightAceUtils2 does not resemble AceUtils 1
18:19.16NeronixIt'll have stuff in the original aceutil source plus some mic util funcs I found in the ace source (ace.toggle, etc)
18:19.22Kaeltenckknight:  well we havn't discussed aceutils at all
18:19.24Neronixs/mic/misc/
18:19.24Mikmakergoth: well, on my screen it only colors the keybinds
18:19.30ckknightKaelten, that's Neronix's deal
18:19.35kergothi dont think one monolithic aceutils object is a good thing
18:19.37ckknighthe claimed it
18:19.48kergothmost utils probably belong in individual libraries based on the type of functionality
18:19.48ckknightneed advice for AceConsole
18:19.52kergothlike, say, the color functions
18:19.58Kaeltenckknight:  that may be but design desicions still need to be made
18:19.58mjcckknight: sure, what's up
18:20.12ckknightsay you have a toggle /addon thing
18:20.12NeronixYou mean to split it up into parts like how PT and BabbleLib work?
18:20.21Kaeltenneronix not exactly
18:20.23ckknightshould /addon thing toggle or print out the current value?
18:20.30mjcKaelten: http://325i.org/wow/KC_Items.lua in a moment
18:20.34ckknightand if it prints out the current value, how does one toggle?
18:20.36NeronixI only claimed it because ckknight said that stuff like ace.toggle wouldn't make it into ace2
18:20.41kergothwe need to review exactly what sort of utils you're wanting to include, and decide whether those even belong there
18:20.48kergothimho
18:20.59NeronixYeah, good idea
18:21.19kergothmaybe make a wiki page? with a list of the functions?
18:21.42mjcyep, there we are
18:21.51Kaeltenwell the original point of AceUtils was to allow a central location of resuable code that didn't have to be in memory for each addon that used them
18:21.52Mikmaanyone been into Stormwind yet?
18:21.54mjc0.97MB haha
18:21.58Mikmawalk outside and see what's there ;)
18:21.58ckknightmaybe make `/addon thing on` switch it on and `/addon thing off` switch it off?
18:22.08NeronixAll that's going in for now is a bunch of stuff I found in the old acedev package
18:22.17Kaeltenckknight:  pardon?
18:22.21kergothKaelten: right, and for the most part thats exactly what libraries give us... so the only question is, are there a set of misc utilities that people need that arent yet in a library
18:22.21WobinMikma: .. like every other major city? =)
18:22.25kergothimho
18:22.26ckknightKaelten, I'm working on AceConsole
18:22.29Mikmammkay?
18:22.32ckknightfor toggles
18:22.42NeronixLike SplitString, BuildItemLink, Capitalize, etc
18:22.44ckknightwhat should be the standard for switching
18:22.54Mikmawell atleast i put my redrange back in
18:23.05ckknight`/addon thing` typically prints out the current value, and lists a usage
18:23.08Kaeltenckknight:  um that'd be in the function that handels the response for the given command
18:23.18ckknightKaelten, not quite.
18:23.22CIA-1003neriak * r3089 10AceLoot/AceLoot.lua: AceLoot: date rev not updated ...
18:23.37kergothMikma: hey, i dunno if you checked the logs, but would it be possible for you to add commands to disable each actionbar to your chat commands in bartender? tahts the only thing preventing me from dropping cardbars like a bad habit
18:23.41kergoth:)
18:23.56ckknightI could make `/addon thing` toggle it and list the new value
18:23.58KaeltenNeronix: well AceUtils could be redone as a more granular version of AceLibrary to keep with what kergoth was saying
18:24.11Mikmakergoth: no since blizzard already has the function in their configmenu ;)
18:24.12Kaeltenwhen you say /addon thing could you give a real world example?
18:24.34kergothMikma: ah, you dont override those?  i thought i had those checked.. guess not
18:24.56ckknightKaelten, `/myaddon standby`
18:24.59ckknightthat's a toggle.
18:25.01Mikmakergoth: well i think it overwrites them at startup or so, but atleast i could disable them
18:25.03mjcKaelten: did you snag the kc_items.lua?
18:25.08Kaeltenmjc not yet
18:25.47NeronixKaelten: But now that I've ended up causing a minor argument over the issue, should I wait for whatever design decisions to be made first?
18:25.47Kaeltenmjc email it to me please kaelten@gmail.com
18:25.47mjckk
18:25.47Mikmakergoth: yeah just tested, i was able to disable everything
18:25.47Kaeltenneronix well we can work those out and then figure it out
18:25.47kergothMikma: okay. otherwise i absolutely love bartender.  the new look when unlocked is nice, and i love the way you ditch the actionbutton borders.. makes me want that in all my other actionbar addons :)
18:25.50kergothgreat
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18:26.21Kaeltenckknight:  right thats a toggle but that'd be handled by a funciton including the output of the new value
18:26.33ckknightnope.
18:26.34Mikmakergoth: i'm glad you like it hehe :)
18:26.39MoonWolfhmmm
18:26.41ckknightI'll show you what I mean, Kael
18:26.43Kaeltenjust changing the value and outputting is not everything that needs to be done.
18:26.49MoonWolfhow do i configure Ouf2 again ?
18:26.58Mikmai have always hated the damn borders around the buttons, they're really useless in mods afterall
18:27.07Wobinctrl-click?
18:27.32kergothi need to get off my fat ass and get moving on some addon work
18:27.34kergothbut i keep playing instead
18:27.39MoonWolfnot working :(
18:27.52ckknightKaelten, this much more resembles AceOptions now.
18:29.07Mikmahow can i leave the LookingForGroup?
18:29.11Kaeltenckknight:  huh?
18:29.21Kaeltenckknight:  ok I think we're not seeing eye to eye
18:29.25ckknightprolly not
18:29.26ckknightlemme paste.
18:29.27TainMikma: /leave 4   - I think
18:29.39Mikmanope :(
18:30.05Mikmaoh well i just disabled it from chat-tab
18:30.51ckknightKaelten, http://pastebin.ca/68514
18:30.53Wobinhm
18:30.58kergothhmm, suppose i should rejoin lfg so calltoarms can pick up people saying lfg/lfm there, just move it to a spam tab
18:31.00WobinWoW is freezing a whole lot more for me =(
18:31.20Wobinkergoth: Shouldn't CTA work if you just mute it?
18:31.26Wobinlike ctra?
18:31.57kergothoh good point, probably
18:32.13Makkanyone here work with networks and such?
18:32.18Mikmawhat the hell am i going to do with the keyring-button :P
18:32.34Makkintegrate it with BagNon :P
18:32.35phyberMikma: hide it :)
18:32.44phyberBagnon has the keyring button already ;)
18:32.44MakkAdditional "bag"-button
18:32.47Makkoh
18:32.48Makk:P
18:32.49Makkgif
18:32.58Makkanyone here work with networks and such?
18:33.09Mikmaphyber: i was planning on docking it with bags but the problem is it's 1px longer than bags
18:33.21Mikmaor, atleast it looks like it
18:33.41kergothMakk: thats a pretty broad question.
18:33.46Makkhehe
18:33.51Makkwell, our modem is fucked
18:33.54MakkADSL
18:34.05Makkor it might not be
18:34.06Makk2 sec
18:34.50MakkWe get the following message every 30 minutes, and internet kinda stops working: >>WAN: data link deactivated
18:35.06MakkNetopia router/modem
18:35.09Makkbrb, pizza
18:36.00kergothadsl is a weak point for me.  i know ethernet, and i know ppp, frame relay, countless other protocols. pppoe, not as well.  regardless, wonder what the best step is to diagnose.  does that modem have a web interface?
18:36.29Mikmaoh for crying out loud, do i really have to do another frame for the keyring ^^
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18:43.24Makkkergoth: no, only telnet
18:43.45MakkWe're afraid it might be the DSL central nearby that's malfunctioning
18:46.12mjcKaelten: mailed
18:49.22Kaeltenmjc:  thanks
18:49.41mjcno prob
18:52.33CIA-1003neriak * r3091 10AceLoot/AceLoot.lua: AceLoot: wrong version number
18:59.56Mikmaseems like my default-positions for 1.0 scale is slightly misaligned, gotta fix it now before releasing 1.1 'tender :)
19:00.07CIA-1003neriak * r3092 10AH_Wipe/AH_Wipe.lua: AH_Wipe: fixed some typos, changed behaviour of the "usable" cmd
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19:10.39CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3093 10AceLibrary/AceConsole.lua: AceConsole - Mixin -> LibraryMixin
19:11.02ckknighteverything's coming up Milhouse!
19:14.33Mikmawtf is going on with the KeyRingButton
19:14.40Mikmaeventho i hide it it keeps appearing :D
19:15.22ckknightit's cause you touch yourself at night.
19:15.59Mikmaoh yes please
19:16.18KaeltenAwaybe back in a few guys
19:21.22Mikmathis is really horrible
19:21.33Mikmaeventho i hide it it keeps appearing after /rl
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19:32.10IndustrialMikma: you have to hook its onshow or something then
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19:34.09ToastTheifhey
19:34.19ToastTheifanyone here who could maybe answer some visor questions?
19:34.23MikmaIndustrial: doesn't matter, i managed to hide it with KeyRingButton:Disable() and KeyRingButton:DisableDrawLayer() :)
19:34.40ToastTheifIndustrial is here :O
19:34.58WobinToast, ask away
19:35.02Wobinwe can only try =P
19:35.02ToastTheifhey Industrial
19:35.05ToastTheifalright
19:35.20ToastTheifso all my of saved varibles decided to reset last night
19:35.37ToastTheifand Im trying to fix my UI up better this time
19:35.41Mikmalol i wrote my comment to wrong channel
19:35.47Mikma<2231> <@Mikma> woot! KeyRingButton:DisableDrawLayer() FTW!
19:36.09ToastTheifso, Im trying to parent VisorActionButton2-12 to VisorActionButton1
19:36.14ToastTheifand it works all fine and stuff
19:36.21phyberMikma: does that stop the button from reappearing all the time?
19:36.28ToastTheifbut when I go to move VisorActionButton1, 2-12 do not move with it
19:36.30Mikmathose 2 lines does
19:36.39phyberMikma: ahh, nice.
19:36.47Mikmaor atleast i hope so since i will be using it with Bartender :P
19:36.51ToastTheifbut any other command, such as transparency I do to VAB1, the same settins are applied to 2-12
19:36.59Wobinp and pr?
19:37.05kergothi just hid it with visor, but i'll be happy when i can finally disable visor
19:37.31IndustrialToastTheif: I have my own actionbar addon now, I dont use visor anymore
19:37.40IndustrialToastTheif: why dont you just idle here :P
19:37.40MikmaWobin: hey dude, did you have a look at the cool FuBar-XP yet?
19:37.46IndustrialToastTheif: or ask someone else?
19:37.54ToastTheifhmm?
19:38.08ToastTheifidle here?
19:38.11Industrialhere
19:38.15Industrialin this irc channel
19:38.19wereHamsterI simply disabled MainMenuBar and it removed all of the standard UI elements that are on the bottom :)
19:38.26ToastTheifwhat do you mean lol
19:38.26WobinMikma: Which one?
19:38.40IndustrialToastTheif: I mean stay here when you are done asking a question
19:38.45MikmaWobin: the line-xp one which was in the picture
19:38.45Industrialim here 24/7
19:38.50ToastTheifoh okay
19:39.01kergothhmm
19:39.03WobinDid someone write it?
19:39.03kergoth~seen kergoth
19:39.06purlkergoth is currently on #oe (14h 57m 57s) #wowace (14h 57m 57s) #uclibc (14h 57m 57s) #elinux (14h 57m 57s). Has said a total of 1197 messages. Is idling for 3s, last said: '~seen kergoth '.
19:39.16MikmaWobin: you said it's easy, but nobody has
19:39.17kergothonly connected for 14 hours? sheesh
19:39.19Wobinomg recursive seen
19:39.20kergothstupid wireless
19:39.22kergothhehe
19:39.37Industrial~seen Industrial
19:39.39purlindustrial is currently on #wowi-lounge (11d 4h 40m 21s) #wowace (11d 4h 40m 21s). Has said a total of 1866 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen Industrial'.
19:39.45ToastTheifsigh I hate these damn buttons
19:39.56WobinMikma: If I could actually ever get textures working the first time round, it've already been done =P
19:40.08WobinBut I have horrific luck with textures
19:40.24Mikmahey a question. should i include RedRange in Bartender?
19:40.38Mikmasince the blizzards doesn't seem to color the entire button
19:40.51ToastTheifIndustrial
19:41.01ToastTheifI can't even get to your addons on your site anymore
19:41.05kergothi wouldnt if i were you, i'd let people use iriel's redrange if they want that
19:41.10kergothleaves it in their hands
19:41.17kergothbut /shrug
19:41.18KyahxMikma: Whats this I hear about FuBar-XP?
19:41.32Mikmakergoth: well it _IS_ iriel's redrange which i'm using :)
19:42.09kergothhahah
19:42.10kergoth12:46 < Slade-> -hmm this require system seems interesting
19:42.10kergoth12:47 < Slade-> -its like a class system almost
19:42.10kergoth12:48 < rici> +what, it involves a struggle between the wealthy aristocratic modules and the struggling worker modules for control of the means of production?
19:42.12MikmaKyahx: the layout some dude had designed in wowace forums had a nice idea of FuBar-XP .. the line of FuBar would be colored
19:42.27KyahxI saw that, did someone make it?
19:42.35Industrialkergoth: :P
19:42.44IndustrialToastTheif: No, they are on the SVN
19:43.02ToastTheifoh
19:43.20Mikmakergoth: now i got it! i'll make it switchable with slash ;)
19:43.40ToastTheifwwell
19:43.44KyahxFuBar - Experienced?
19:43.45ToastTheifSVN confusing the hell out of me
19:43.53KyahxReleased today, is that it?
19:43.57ToastTheifso yeah I'll be back in a little bit when I Find it
19:44.23MikmaKyahx: nobody has done it as far as i know but we kinda hoped someone would :)
19:44.45KyahxI've half-emulated the look with Bongo's XP bar, but its not perfect :P
19:45.20IndustrialToastTheif: check the forums
19:46.37ToastTheifyeah
19:46.54ToastTheifso far I've found an SVN page and industrial.wowi thing
19:47.12CIA-1003phyber * r3094 10LostKeys/ (. LostKeys.lua LostKeys.toc):
19:47.12CIA-10LostKeys:
19:47.12CIA-10- Disable the KeyRing button. Thanks Mikma.
19:47.55phyberit was irritating me.  I had hidden it with Visor and it kept coming back >_<
19:48.45Wobinoh wow
19:48.47Wobinit worked
19:48.56CIA-1003mikma * r3095 10Bartender/ (Bartender.lua Bartender.toc): Bartender 1.01: Patch 1.11 update, KeyRing included with bags
19:49.02WobinMy bug was I was anchoring it enitrely the wrong way =P
19:49.06Wobinand it ended up offscreen
19:49.15IndustrialHow do i remove things from the wiki?
19:49.18IndustrialI need my pages removed
19:51.31Kyahxhas anyone figured out why tipbuddy shows two tiooltips now?
19:52.01Mikmai just got informed from bedroom that tipbuddy is "broken" :P
19:52.10Industrialhehe
19:52.52Kyahxoh well, PerfectTooltip still works
19:52.58Mikmabut but..
19:53.04Mikmait doesn't show ToT :(
19:53.15Mikmaand doesn't have an reaction-background
19:53.17KyahxI just want my tootips at my mouse-cursor
19:53.24Kyahxthats all
19:53.37Industrial<PROTECTED>
19:53.47Industrialunit name
19:58.17TainI just use Reactips, and then Tooltip Wrangler for position.
19:58.23ToastTheifHey Industrial, Im checking out your actionbar addon
19:58.39ToastTheifIm wondering, I haven't read or seen anyhting that deals with Shapeshifting/stance changing
19:58.41IndustrialIm having an error in 11100
19:58.49IndustrialNope, its just buttons
19:58.52Industrialnothing more
19:58.59ToastTheifdo you plan to implement that or should I just do it with visor?
19:59.23IndustrialNot until I have a good plan for it
19:59.36ToastTheifI'll do it with visor for now then I guess
19:59.42Wobinhehe
20:00.05WobinThe midsummer maypole thing is highly reminsicent of Revenge of the Sith
20:01.04ToastTheifhmm
20:01.49ToastTheifIdActionBar doesn't play nice with VisorGui :)
20:01.54ToastTheifoh well, chat cmds ftw!
20:01.56Wobinhokay
20:02.17Industrialvisor? whats that :P
20:02.33KyahxMago patch rules BTW
20:02.36KyahxMage*
20:02.57ToastTheifyou don't like Visor or something Id?
20:03.06kergothi'm only 40 and i'm loving it, that talent that gives a chance to freeze on hitting with a frost spell makes me happy
20:03.21Kyahx:P  stuns galore.  Impact + Frostbite
20:03.30KyahxIm 30/21
20:03.33Kyahxfire/ice
20:03.33IndustrialI dont use it anymore, so I can't support it :P
20:03.36Wobinhttp://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xpbar9oz.png
20:03.42kergothah cool, i'm looking to be 14/0/37 atm
20:03.46kergothstill debating it
20:03.51Wobincomments? suggestions?
20:04.03IndustrialWobin: hey thats cool!
20:04.08ToastTheifwell fine then lol
20:04.10WobinI'll make the colour changeable
20:04.18Wobins/colour/colours/
20:04.24IndustrialWobin: maybe a bit bigger flash thingy
20:04.28Kyahxthat was what I was about to suggest
20:04.32Wobinand whether you want it stuck on the top bar or bottom bar
20:04.44Wobin(bottommosttop or topmostbottom)
20:04.58[Ammo]coool wobin
20:05.00Kyahxsteal the castingbar spark and put it at the end of your XP?
20:05.02[Ammo]be sure to credit the guy ;)
20:05.05Wobinayup
20:05.16WobinMaybe I'll call it BastXPBarFu
20:05.21Kyahxwhats unrested loot like.  Clear or black?
20:05.32[Ammo]Wobin: that's credit alright :)
20:05.37Wobinhehe
20:05.48[Ammo]I'll use it, that's for sure
20:05.53WobinAh, Bant
20:06.02MikmaWobin: umh, huh? who did that?
20:06.07[Ammo]BantasicXPFU
20:06.19WobinBant came up with the idea
20:06.26IndustrialXpFu
20:06.26Industrial:P
20:06.31WobinAs I said, it was fairly simple to implement
20:06.34MikmaFuXp
20:06.52Wobinatm it's XPBarFu
20:07.01Mikmagimme gimme gimme!
20:07.12[Ammo]keep it XPBarFu and give the current texture the name Bant
20:07.26Wobin(I actually made the texture too =P)
20:07.29[Ammo]rofl
20:07.32[Ammo]k
20:07.48KyahxI like FuXp
20:07.49WobinIt's a simple gradiaent
20:07.52[Ammo]what is the rested and unrested difference?
20:08.05Wobinah... nothing
20:08.06[Ammo](colorwise)
20:08.16Wobinie, rested truncates before the end of the bar
20:08.16Kyahxpfft, just add him to the toc and he'll be happe :P  (FuXP (by Wobin, Concept by Bant)
20:08.18[Ammo]but damn nice xp bar
20:08.20Wobin(I hope)
20:08.26Kyahxs/happe/happy
20:08.40WobinUnfortunately I don't have any chars with not full rested =P
20:08.51[Ammo]create a new one :)
20:08.52Wobinmeh, I'll SVN it and one of you can test it for that =)
20:08.58MikmaWobin: so, someone told me recently that you suck on doing textures ;)
20:09.02Wobinyus
20:09.07KyahxMy mage has 0 rested
20:09.09KyahxI'll test :P
20:09.20[Ammo]just svn it :)
20:09.29WobinYou should have seen the angst I went through for the PK textures =P
20:14.03KyahxI still like FuXP
20:14.12Kyahxhehe
20:19.12Mikmanice wow crashed gege
20:37.58phyberanyone know what the stuff at the entrance of Un'Goro is for?
20:38.06phyberThe Ribbon Pole and Flame of Un'Goro
20:38.25Kebinusansummer solstice event
20:39.40phyberI got +30 fire res for 60 mins by dancing around the pole with someone
20:39.58Kebinusanyeah, I want to get a 40 man raid dancing around one of those poles
20:47.38WobinI want the ribbons to actually entwine
20:53.14Wobinckknight: You around?
20:53.20ckknightyes.
20:53.40TainPlay with the ribbon pole, it's lots of fun.
20:54.43ckknightwhat do you need, Wobin?
20:54.48Wobinwoot
20:55.09Wobinum. You have a FuBar:TriggerEvent("FUBAR_CHANGED_PANELS")
20:55.14Wobinin PanelClass
20:55.22WobinIs there any way I can also hook into that event?
20:55.46ckknightself:RegisterEvent("FUBAR_CHANGED_PANELS")
20:55.51ckknightit's an ace event
20:55.54kergothisnt that just aceevent? the same way you do any ace .. yeah, that
20:55.55kergothhehe
20:56.06Wobinhokies =)
20:56.08Wobineasy
20:56.56WobinAh but I should ask, what triggers that? If I move a plugin from one panel to another?
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20:58.01ckknightum
20:58.04TupladHm, oRA_RaidSay became useless ? :(
20:58.07ckknightI think when the panels change shape
20:58.19Wobin=(
20:58.33WobinIs there anything I can work off that'll tell me if a plugin changes panels?
20:58.38KyahxWobin: did you commit it yet?  :P
20:58.44WobinKyahx: No =P
20:59.28KyahxTuplad: Its my understanding that oRA_RaidSay is just a wrapper now to send messages to the raid warning channel
20:59.36Kyahxfor other mods that still call RaidSay
20:59.55ckknightWobin, probably not
21:00.00Wobinokay
21:00.04ckknightwhy do you want it?
21:00.11WobinFor FuXP
21:00.11TupladMeh :(
21:00.22WobinI'd like it to tie the xpbar to whatever panel it's currently on
21:00.36TupladBlizzard disappointed me when I saw that I couldnt print any messages on the screen ;(
21:01.02KyahxIm personally disapointed with Blizzard's Ready Check
21:01.10WobinIt's got a nice portrait =P
21:01.13TupladIt's included aswell ? :O
21:01.18Kyahxonly the leader can initiate it, and the feedback is in the chatframe
21:01.23Wobinfeh
21:01.29Wobinpretty useless =P
21:01.43Tuplad-_-"
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21:02.06KyahxI think oRA_Ready should be modified to hook the new blizzard functions, and replace the frame / feedback frame with what we're used to ^.^
21:02.33Tupladhttp://www.speedshare.org/iYFd2tLUWw so which addons could I remove then ?
21:02.36MoonWolfIndustrial, are you there ?
21:03.27KyahxTuplad: you can ditch Catalyst for sure.  Blizzard fixed their own zoneing system
21:03.31TupladThe sad thing is, I cant lead my premade properly anymore :(
21:03.54MoonWolfcatalyust can still show you zoning time :P
21:03.59[Ammo]Kyahx: that's what we plan
21:04.08Kyahxyay!
21:04.15[Ammo]but for that need some testing :)
21:04.26[Ammo]and I need to unpack the mpq to check out how the blizz thing works
21:04.42kergothi really hate it when an addon uses PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD thinking its where they should initialize
21:04.51Kyahxcan the READY_CHECK function be called without a keypress?  :P
21:05.02Kyahxthen raid promoted could still call it, remotely via oRA
21:05.18[Ammo]can only the raidleader do a readycheck/
21:05.23Kyahxyea
21:05.25[Ammo]meh
21:05.26Kyahxwhich is retarded
21:05.27TupladoRA_RaidSay & oRA_Ready -> remove ?
21:05.29[Ammo]stupid blizzard
21:05.31[Ammo]no
21:05.34[Ammo]not yet :)
21:05.36Tuplad:O
21:05.43Tupladplx plx plx, I want messages on screen again ;(
21:05.43[Ammo]at least you can remove them but some other modules still depend on em
21:05.51Kyahxsome mods still call RaidSay stuff, you need it so the messages will get routed properly
21:06.02[Ammo]and you need it for /rs instead of /rw
21:06.08[Ammo]:)
21:06.22[Ammo]I'm so used to typing /rs I can't live without it
21:06.32kergothonly the rl can do the check? not those who've been promoted/
21:06.33Kyahxthe new blizzard frame dosent add who's talking either
21:06.39Kyahxa minor annoyance
21:06.42TupladThe dumb thing is, Blizzard made it so that LFG is being seen everywhere, and you cant see leaders talking in raids - I almost lost with my pvp group :\
21:06.59Kyahxyea, im not even in the LFG channel anymore
21:07.03Kyahxtoo much spam
21:07.08TupladSo you still can print messages on screen ?
21:07.08ckknightwhy did they do that?
21:07.11ckknightsuch a bad idea
21:07.19TupladIm confused :-]
21:07.21KyahxBlizzard should ditch the entire LFG channel and integrame Call to Arms into the default UI
21:07.27kergothyes
21:07.27Kyahxintegrate*
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21:07.33ckknightthat'd be nie.
21:07.34ckknightnice*
21:07.38Kyahxit would be amazeing
21:08.02Tuplad:O
21:08.19KyahxI also think they should add a flag to SendChatMessage that would cause the message to be sent, but not shown in any of the user's chat frames
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21:08.35Kyahxthat would allow mods to send info via the "RAID" channel, without disrupting chat
21:08.45Kyahxand always have a syncronized channel for mods useing raid, guild, etc...
21:09.43Mikmaoh motherf*** alliance sucks on evert server in pvp
21:09.56Mikmaidiots don't heal druid with flag...
21:10.03Mikmathey just let him die <- me
21:10.13Tupladum
21:10.16Tupladpaladin > druid in FC
21:10.20Kyahxnope
21:10.22Tupladyep
21:10.22Kyahxlol
21:10.24TupladI play paladin, I know :)
21:10.30Tupladhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Honor_System is that info even right ?
21:10.37Kyahxpsh, we always have druids run the flag
21:10.40Tuplad60k to get high warlord, lol, I got 70k in one week
21:10.53Kyahxthats alot?
21:10.53kergothon our server horde utterly annihilates alliance in pvp until level 60, then theres a bit of turnabout
21:11.09Kyahxon my server you have to get 600k...
21:11.20Tekkubugh
21:11.27TekkubI hate working with teenagers
21:11.36kergothheh
21:11.40Kyahx:P
21:11.43kergoths/working with //
21:11.46kergoth:P
21:11.53TupladKyahx: yeh that's alot, pvp weekend only, 70k and Im 45
21:11.57kergothhehe
21:12.02MoonWolfill get back when im 20
21:12.02CIA-1003phyber * r3096 10LostKeys/LostKeys.lua:
21:12.02CIA-10LostKeys:
21:12.03CIA-10- Added a Hide() so that the border doesn't keep showing up when you open the escape menu.
21:12.28Kyahxah
21:12.28kergothi'm getting old.  26 and i'm losing my hair on top, and starting to grey on the sides :'(
21:12.48MoonWolfbit early for greying kerg
21:12.53kergothyeah
21:12.56Kyahxheh, I just turned 20 and I felt old :P
21:12.57ckknightholy hell, kergoth
21:13.02kergothi blame newbs causing me stress
21:13.12ckknightmy dad's in his mid-50's and he still has a full head of hair without graying
21:13.22kergothi was screwed no matter what
21:13.34kergothmy grandpas on both sides of the family are near bald
21:13.41kergothdad's balding
21:13.47MoonWolfah well
21:13.52ckknightyea, too bad it travels down the X-chromosome, not the Y.
21:13.54MoonWolfhope your girlfriend likes bald.
21:14.01ckknighthow's your maternal uncle doing?
21:14.02kergothat some point i'll say fuck it and shave it all off.  no combover for me, thanks
21:14.18Kyahxheh
21:14.19kergothhmm, not sure, i havent seen my mom's side of the family in a while
21:14.27ckknighthrm
21:14.44ckknightwell, your mother's brothers will tell you how bald you'll get
21:14.51ckknightand also her mother's brothers
21:14.53MoonWolfckknight, what does it matter, he is balding at 20.....
21:14.59MoonWolf26
21:15.20MoonWolfzero and six are really close on my keyboard :P
21:15.52MoonWolfdamnit why wont my ouf2 config dropdown show up.
21:16.22NeronixSame problem here
21:16.45TupladUmmm, could anyone fix SmartChat maybe ?
21:17.01MoonWolfstill way to busy with my own prblems
21:17.06NeronixTry /script DewdropLib:GetInstance("1.0"):Open(oUF.frames.Player)
21:17.14Mikmahaste: oUF doesn't update properly, after i died in BG and typed /afk my bar shows me i'm dead
21:17.42IndustrialCan someone help me with 1.11 and SetAlpha?
21:17.56Industrial<PROTECTED>
21:17.59Industrial<PROTECTED>
21:18.00MoonWolfwhen you figure that one out tell me what you did indu
21:18.02IndustrialIt says SetAlpha is nil
21:18.11MoonWolfi need to fix my custom IDactionbuttons.
21:18.15Industrial:P
21:18.18Industrialme2 :>
21:18.44Neronixmight be something to do with the object type changes
21:19.52MikmaIndustrial: really depends on what you're doing? :P
21:20.11Mikmasince my border-mod works fine
21:20.25MoonWolfdoes yours affect the pet one ?
21:20.33Mikmayeap
21:20.41Mikmawell, haven't looked hunter within 1.11
21:20.43Mikmajust a sec
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21:21.00MoonWolfbecause my pet bar flatout disaperead.
21:21.09MoonWolfand i think its to do with the setaplha
21:21.43Mikmauh, has mousescroll always worked in AddOn-list?
21:21.50Mikmayeah, mine works with petbar too :)
21:21.57MoonWolfhmmm
21:22.11Mikmalook at the code from svn
21:22.19Mikmapetbar has NormalTexture2, not 1
21:22.32Mikmas/1/NormalTexture/
21:23.24CIA-1003neronix 07Neronix * r3097 10Lexan-Ace2/ (Lexan.lua Lexan.toc):
21:23.24CIA-10Lexan (Ace2 conversion)
21:23.24CIA-10- Fixed GetInstance-ing
21:23.24CIA-10- Changed self.Hooks to new self.hooks
21:23.24CIA-10- Removed RegisterForLoad since it's unused now
21:23.25CIA-10- Converted chat cmd to new AceConsole system
21:23.27CIA-10- Now the first working mod for Ace2! \o/
21:23.49ckknightNeronix, do _not_ release the addon to the general public
21:23.56NeronixI won't
21:23.56Tekkubso uhm, does that mean Ace2 is going live or not?
21:24.03TekkubI guess not :)
21:24.07NeronixThat was only to help test
21:24.08ckknightparts of Ace2 may change and we don't want to change the minor versions
21:24.23ckknightTekkub, not quite
21:24.28ckknightI'm almost done the new AceConsole
21:24.38Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/omglolwtf.jpg
21:24.57NeronixIs having it under branches in the SVN ok?
21:25.00ckknightoh yes
21:25.01Tekkubso I'm gonna throw togethre LuckyCharms tonight I think, need to grab some random person to test raid shit on :)
21:25.12NeronixNormal lusers won't look in branches anyway :P
21:25.15ckknightI just don't recommend putting it in trunk until alpha
21:25.21ckknightwhich I want to happen later today
21:25.26MoonWolfaha
21:25.28MoonWolffound it
21:25.29Tekkubyea people don't go in branch often :)
21:25.30MoonWolfthanks mikma
21:25.58Tekkubwhere's clad, I have a vital idea for PR
21:26.04MoonWolfIndustrial, still there ?
21:26.22Tekkubneeds support for the raid target icons, both on the players themselves and on their targets
21:26.36Tekkubone could see, at a glance, if every mage had a unique target to sheep
21:26.43WobinWe need an easier interface to assign symbols
21:26.50Tekkubnone of this BS of setting all the CCers as tanks
21:26.53WobinMy raid leader was complaining how clunky the Blizzard method is
21:26.58TekkubWob: I'm working on it
21:27.02MikmaMoonWolf: np :)
21:27.04MoonWolftake this line:  background = getglobal(Button:GetName()..'NormalTexture') or getglobal(Button:GetName()..'NormalTexture'2) and change it to     background = getglobal(Button:GetName()..'NormalTexture2') or getglobal(Button:GetName()..'NormalTexture')
21:27.10Tekkubif it works as intended (it should...)
21:27.13MoonWolftada, pet bar, no errors.
21:27.17[Ammo]Tekkub: also integrate the icons into PRT
21:27.24Tekkub*click*, swipe mouse over field of mobs, profit!
21:27.24[Ammo]and place the marked targets on the list :)
21:27.32Tekkubammo: planin on it
21:27.35[Ammo]woot
21:27.49Tekkuband it'll sort them by icon index too, so less jumpy targets
21:27.59[Ammo]yeah just keep the icons on top
21:28.01[Ammo]and any extras below
21:28.07[Ammo]icon in front of the mob eh voila ;)
21:28.11Tekkuband on the client side, select symbol, swipe mouse, now targetting your symbol
21:28.18Tekkubshould make resheeping hella easy
21:28.49Tekkubit'll of course scan the raid's targets first and then if the symbol isn't available toss a "swip your mouse" error
21:29.22[Ammo]cool
21:29.31Tekkuboh and the one other feature for leader side, it'll always assign bosses with the skull symbol :)
21:29.50Tekkuband if there's a second boss, the X
21:29.50[Ammo]:)
21:29.53[Ammo]I'll use it :)
21:29.58Tekkubso you can give a simple kill order....
21:29.59[Ammo]can only raidleader assign targets?
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21:30.03[Ammo]or assisted as well?
21:30.10Tekkub"Star circle Tri Boss
21:30.24Tekkubno clue there, assists might get to
21:30.29[Ammo]hmm
21:30.47TupladIs there something like smartchat ? remember the chat you were talking in and everytime you press enter you type in that channel
21:31.18Tekkubbut yea, get target icons in PR and it'll be so easy for the leader... swipe to assign symbols, check your CCer's all have unique, give kill order, fight
21:31.50Tekkubthere'll be no need for the peons/clients to run a mod at all, but they could for resheep targetting simplicity
21:32.02[Ammo]yeah
21:33.40Tupladdamn damn patch, why did they have to make LFG worldwide ? Trying to lead a raid and some 21 years old spam with "RECRUITING SHAMADINS" -_-"
21:34.01[Ammo]leave it
21:34.01WobinTuplad: I'm using Cirk's ChatManager
21:34.06WobinBut it needs patching
21:34.12Tupladwobin: like ?
21:34.13Wobinbut it deals with the sticky
21:34.15[Ammo]Wobin, where is the xp bar!
21:34.23TupladAmmo: cant :( Im lowbie and need groups
21:34.37[Ammo]ouch
21:34.45[Ammo]put it in a seperate tab
21:34.49Tupladgood idea!
21:34.57Wobin[Ammo]: You should know I have certain standards before I put something out. At the very least it has to work =P
21:35.24Tupladwobin: it does nothing fancy right?
21:35.37WobinChatmanager?
21:35.40Tupladyes
21:35.58Wobinit just allows you to reorder your channels, and set stickys
21:36.41kergothchatmanager is nice, i use it too
21:36.46TupladOh, and anyone experiencing some problems with wow like, I just formatted, and I started wow, my rights ide and the top were too far right and too far to top, so I couldnt see a bit, I moved it, but like 3cm on the left are still black :\ is it me or is it the game ?
21:36.52Tupladok, I downloaded it!
21:37.04Tupladnow Im off, blizzard gives me headaches -.-
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21:38.22Mikmarofl! the raidtargets work in party also
21:40.43netcursesomeone with ie6 can help me 2 minute please
21:41.07hastemy legs hurt :(
21:41.14hastestanding for almost 8 hours = suck
21:41.58netcursei m trying to understand why it take 20 seconds with ie6 to make the first connection with http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/ then it s smouth
21:42.06netcursewhile with ie7 and FF it s fast all the time
21:42.17hasteie6 is a broken browser
21:42.20hasteproblem solved
21:42.30netcursewell it s not that simple:)
21:42.36netcurselet me check how many ppl still use ie6
21:42.55Mikmahttp://www.cryptofreak.org/projects/reciperadar/
21:42.59hasteeach and everyone of them should be blocked from the site untill they download something else :p
21:44.03netcurse43% of today users on curse use ie6
21:44.16Kyahxthats too bad
21:44.19kergothugh. bad users, bad
21:44.57netcurse42% use FF
21:45.14netcurseand 73% of these 42% got 1.5.4 version
21:45.35[Ammo]hmm miniblizz raid blocks the raidui from loading at start as well
21:45.39[Ammo]it didn't do that 1.10
21:45.45[Ammo]does blizz load it at the start now?
21:46.32hyperChipmunkif it's blocking it, then that'd seem to be the logical conclusion
21:46.46[Ammo]yeah, but would it hurt to still block it
21:46.49[Ammo]with the new raidwarning etc etc
21:47.02hyperChipmunkthe warnings work fine for me
21:47.46[Ammo]the default rightclick on the partyframes nolonger work, which is weird
21:47.56gnorlishyou don't get ready checks
21:48.00gnorlishwith miniblizz running
21:48.02[Ammo]ah
21:48.04[Ammo]that would be bad
21:48.12gnorlishyou are "afk"
21:48.14[Ammo]can't really fix oRA_Ready with it runnig then :p
21:48.31TainI... you know sometimes the real headlines are better than anything you could make up.
21:48.33Tain"State offers new guidelines on oral-suction circumcision"
21:49.07kergoth..
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21:52.31MikmaWobin: so how's the xpfu doing? :)
21:52.36Neronix`afkWasn't Tuplad banned?
21:52.41Wobinalmost done
21:52.59WobinHe seems to have calmed down if he was =P
21:53.07WobinI can't recall the name
21:53.20MoonWolfyes it was tupload.
21:53.52MoonWolfand im watching him
21:53.53CIA-1003ratbert * r3098 10BagBoy/ (BagBoy.toc BagBoyFu.lua): BagBoy: Allow menu item management with AceGUI active, since AceGUI is still borked...
21:54.06[Ammo]hmm
21:54.28Mikmait is? works fine for me
21:54.30kergothacegui's borked? didnt kael's new release fix things?
21:54.45Mikmayeah i thought so too, 0.9.1
21:54.46[Ammo]if I do /ace profile char all -> FuBar gives some PanelClass error meh
21:54.51MoonWolfall is fine on acegui stuff here.
21:54.56[Ammo]acegui works fine
21:55.21MoonWolfonly remaining problem here is the ouf2 config menu not showing.
21:55.34Mikmahuh
21:55.44Mikmagotta check that out too when i download the newest
21:55.47hyperChipmunkacegui borked for me
21:55.59kergothafter upgrading?
21:55.59MoonWolfluckely all the ouf2 settings are in the saved var by default, and are easy to interpret.
21:56.16MoonWolfi usually do a whole interface whipe, updating as much as i can at new patches.
21:56.18TainThe only addon I'm having trouble with is UberQuests. :(
21:56.24kergoth:(
21:56.37kergothi had to disable battlefield commander, chatmanager, and uberquest
21:56.52MikmaWobin: btw, does the xpfu also have the normal text-support telling amounts and percent?
21:57.14TainI am going crazy without it.  I'm going ot have to put in Monkey Quest until it's fixed, I can't deal without the active quest window.
21:57.39Wobinno
21:57.40ckknightTain, QuestFu?
21:57.48WobinI can have it show it on the tooltip
21:57.56kergothi use fubar_quests, that helps
21:57.59TainYeah, I use QuestFu also but don't like detaching the tooltip since it only shows all quests.
21:58.02Wobin?
21:58.07TainI only want to see the ones I'm currently working on.
21:58.15hyperChipmunkheh, that'd be annoying
21:58.22kergothcant you collapse sections?  thought you could
21:58.24WobinQuestsFu can show only the current zone
21:58.39ckknightnot true, Wobin.
21:58.47WobinTrue
21:58.49ckknightoh
21:58.50ckknightnvm
21:58.54ckknightread it wrong
21:59.10Wobin(PS where should I put the numerical data for FuXPFu?)
21:59.14[Ammo]ckknight: can there be a problem with the SVN FuBar and doing /ace profile char all?
21:59.22ckknightprobably.
21:59.26[Ammo]k
21:59.26ckknighthave fun.
21:59.29[Ammo]hehe
21:59.29TainWell feature request!  Add in collapsable quest headings in QuestFu and/or allow you to choose what quests to show in the tooltip and I can get rid of another addon entirely.
21:59.30MikmaWobin: put some logo on Fu what people can mouseover to get info
21:59.39Wobink
21:59.43ckknightTain, they are collapsable.
21:59.46[Ammo]Tain there are collapsable headings?
21:59.47MikmaWobin: also!!! please please put a option to paste info in chat!
21:59.53Wobinyerg
21:59.54Wobinhm
22:00.05WobinHow do we dump to clipboard?
22:00.06TainWell then, that's good service on my feature request, thank you.
22:00.08Wobinoh
22:00.12Wobindirect to the chatframe
22:00.13Wobinokay
22:00.33kergothahehe
22:00.37kergoths/^.//
22:01.02Wobinkergoth meant: hehe
22:01.07kergothhehe
22:01.10ckknightlol
22:01.28Wobin~chippersnack Wobin
22:01.29purlACTION feeds Wobin some nuts.
22:01.38Mikmanutsucker :D
22:04.04WobinHehe, people are already making "don't cross the streams" jokes at the maypole =P
22:04.37MoonWolfooh
22:04.41MoonWolfi should have thought of that.
22:04.44TainAs long as it's not at the urinal.
22:05.50MoonWolfWTF
22:05.54Wobinright
22:05.55Wobindone
22:05.58MoonWolfmy epic bow got buffed this patch
22:06.04MoonWolfhurricane got a severe buff.
22:06.23MoonWolfno longer a 1 to 4 frot damge
22:06.24TainYeah the Scorpions were complaining that it didn't rock enough.
22:06.40MoonWolfchance to hit with 31 to 41 frost arrow
22:06.43MoonWolfand it crits!
22:06.56MoonWolfand it procs a lot.
22:07.04kergothooh
22:07.17Mikmaseems like hunters rock in 20-29 pvp
22:07.20MoonWolfdont kno wit slows.
22:07.24TainIs Hurricane bop?  
22:07.40MoonWolfBoE epic bow
22:07.46Mikmaso sad alliance wasn't playing together, i was running with the flag all the time and nobody healed me in battle
22:07.57MoonWolf30.2 dps
22:08.01TainOk, I thought so but wasn't sure.  I thought I almost bought one from the AH once.
22:08.02MoonWolfused to slightly more
22:08.05Mikmabut god damn it's fun to escape mages etc with shapeshift! LUV!
22:08.30Mikmaand being immune to sheeps, baa-aa-aa! :D
22:08.43CIA-1003wobin * r3099 10FuBar_FuXPFu/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
22:08.43CIA-10FuXP - Initial import.
22:08.43CIA-10- Ties a coloured xp bar to the FuBar panel
22:08.43CIA-10- Inspired by art by Bant
22:08.51Mikmauh uh!
22:09.02MoonWolfDoes it handle to rep bar too ?
22:09.03WobinI should put a grey bar for xp non rested too
22:09.11WobinMoonWolf: er no
22:09.11Mikmasing hallelujaaa!
22:09.13Wobinnot yet
22:09.29MoonWolfminor thing
22:09.29MikmaWobin: FuXPFu?
22:09.38Wobinsing it! Sing hallelujah. Sing it! yeah, Sing halleluh, sing hallelujah!!!
22:09.49WobinNaming conventions =P
22:09.49MoonWolfOoh
22:10.00MoonWolffrost arrow procs on special shots too.
22:10.28WobinI'd call it FuXP cause it implicitly requires the FuBar
22:10.40Wobinand FuXPFu, cause it's a FuBar plugin
22:10.53Mikmawhy now "FuXPlu"
22:10.55hasteokey... I like 1.11
22:10.58TainAnd so you can make jokes about calling it fux
22:11.01hasteI took the Zeppeling from Undercity
22:11.07hastewhere do you think I end up?
22:11.10hasteALTERAC MOUNTAINS
22:11.14MoonWolfcool
22:11.16WobinWELCOME TO ALTERAC
22:11.18Mikmaawesome
22:11.49TainAt least Horde get to jump off the zeppelin when they get close to somewhere they want to go.
22:11.55TainAnd some classes can even survive it.
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22:12.06MoonWolfrogue and mages and priests
22:12.11MoonWolfrogues get an innate ability
22:12.17TainOr an Engineer
22:12.17MikmaTain: *cough* rogue *cough*
22:12.19Mikmapriests?
22:12.26MoonWolfshiled ?
22:12.31MoonWolfshield*
22:12.33Mikmashouldn't anymore
22:12.43TainReally?  One of the priest spells used to stop falling damage.
22:12.47Mikmasince they removed the "protection" damage
22:12.47MoonWolfmages can blink and frostblock.
22:12.52TainBut that was a long time ago tht I knew
22:12.57MoonWolflevitate should work too
22:12.58Mikmawell priests have levitation
22:12.59TainMages can feather fall or whatever.
22:13.02MoonWolfand mages have slowfall.
22:13.04TainLevitate!  That's right.
22:13.09Mikmabut the shield no longer protects from falldamage
22:13.18Mikmait was removed in.. 1.06?
22:13.32TainOne of the Pally spells protected them too, but again this was a long time ago that I knew.
22:13.36Mikmait was fun as hell to jump down from high places when someone was chancing you
22:13.48TainBut an Engineer can make gnomish parachutes or some such.
22:13.57Wobinaye
22:14.00TainAs alliance though, good luck falling off the deeprun tram.
22:14.01Wobinparachute cloak
22:14.17WobinI've been tempted to make one.
22:14.23WobinJust to get into Un'goro
22:14.26WobinBut now there's a FP
22:14.34kergothbetween the rogue passive fall ability, and the cloak from the class specific st quest, sit pretty well in that department
22:14.35MikmaWobin: Noggenfogger
22:14.37TainThere's a FP in Un'goro?  
22:14.40Mikmait has no cooldown anymore
22:14.42Mikmayeah there is
22:14.45WobinSame diff =)
22:14.48Mikmaand also one in ratchet
22:14.49TainI missed that somehow.  
22:14.50WobinNow there's a FP =P
22:14.51TainI knew ratchet
22:15.03TainWehre is the FP?  I was wandering arount most of ungoro today and didnt' see it.
22:15.06WobinNoggenfogger's cooldown
22:15.10Wobinwas too irritating
22:15.17WobinMarshal's refuge
22:15.23Wobin(I almost typed refuse)
22:15.26TainIt is?  
22:15.32TainI'm.. confused and blind.
22:15.34Mikmayeap
22:15.38Wobinyeah up to the right, and above the cave entrance
22:15.44Wobinhard to find
22:16.25Wobinhm
22:16.26Wobinokay
22:16.33Wobinoh yeah, numbers
22:18.32TekkubKICKASS!
22:18.40TekkubLucky Charms works like a charm :)
22:18.57Mikmawhat charms? :)
22:18.58MoonWolfWhat does it do ?
22:19.18Tekkubsimple "swipe your mouse over a heard of mobs" icon setting
22:19.30MoonWolfcool
22:19.38Tekkubnow to make the targetting logic :)
22:19.39Mikmaso..
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22:19.47Mikmaanyone tested is Catalyst needed anymore?
22:19.48kergothDragon: *roar* I'm afraid of nothing!  Charlie: Nothing?  Dragon: Nothing!  Charlie: Are you very afraid of nothing?  Dragon: (admits) terrified of it.  Charlie: I have nothing in my pockets.  Would you like to see it?  Dragon: No, I certainly would not *flies away*  Charlie: That was much too easy.
22:19.52Tekkubso on the peon end... /lc target star
22:19.57Tekkub*swip mouse
22:20.52KyahxMikma: Catalyst shouldn't be needed for any reason anymore
22:21.10MikmaKyahx: but, has anyone tested the zonetimes with and without now? :)
22:21.17Kyahxhehe
22:21.43KyahxTekkub: You should bind a modifier key, such as 'ctrl'.  When its held down the "swipe" logic is enabled.
22:22.20ckknightwoot, new AceConsole works and is shiny.
22:22.37Mikmahey, is there now the MouseLook in wow?
22:23.24kergothi wish i'd stop accidentally getting into mouselook mode
22:23.28kergothshould look up what key combination it is
22:23.31kergothdrives me nuts
22:25.26mjcmoo
22:25.42mjclostkeys?
22:26.25MikmaWobin: FuXP is lovely!
22:26.26Kyahxwhat is Lostkeys btw?
22:26.29kergothhttp://pastebin.ca/raw/68671 thats better, quoted properly
22:27.41Wobin=)
22:27.43Mikmalol
22:27.49Mikmaanyone noticed the bank is smart now
22:27.58Wobinhow smart?
22:27.59kergothsmart?
22:28.01Mikmaopen bank with bags close, then press "open all bags"
22:28.04Mikmasee what happens
22:28.39kergothoh yeah, i remember reading that in the patch notes
22:28.45Wobinoh yeah
22:28.47Wobin(thank god)
22:28.53WobinI hated having to click through a menu
22:29.03Mikma:)
22:30.23Mikmaok let's read the patchnotes again
22:30.46kergothfoo
22:30.58KyahxWobin: you win.  FuXP is awesome
22:31.10Mikmaerrormessage with fuxp :/
22:31.22Mikmaand it removed my FuBar completely
22:31.59WobinGot the errormessage?
22:32.13MikmaWobin: FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:66: attempt to index a nil value
22:32.53Wobinwhat were you doing?
22:33.04Mikmai logged in
22:33.16Mikmaand it happened again when i logout and login again
22:33.24Mikmanow the whole bar is gone
22:33.37Wobinhm
22:33.46Mikmawell, sorry
22:33.50Mikmathe bar is there, line is missing
22:33.56WobinCan you check what that line is?
22:34.07Mikmait jsut removed everything from the bar :D
22:34.44Mikmaif(self:GetPanel():GetAttachPoint() == "BOTTOM") then
22:35.15Mikmathat's odd
22:35.38WobinIt should certainly have that at that point...
22:35.46Mikmawell i can't enable anything now in FuBar :P
22:36.00Mikmai'll try removing all settings
22:36.34Wobinjust /script FuXPDB = {}
22:36.37Wobinshould do it
22:36.46Mikmaok good to know, now when it's too late ;)
22:37.38KyahxWobin: can I hide the FuXP button in my menu?  Does the bar still update?
22:38.08Mikmareally, those are new gfx at the login-screen and at addons-menu
22:38.22Mikmawhen you mouseover and click the buttons they are different
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22:39.16Wobintbh, I don't know...
22:39.24MikmaWobin: deleting database helped
22:39.33WobinIt -may- update...
22:39.42Industrialwent*
22:40.30MikmaIndustrial: that's nice, what was the reason?
22:41.42kergothi always try to trim down, but i can hardly ever find anything that i dont use on a daily basis
22:41.45kergothheh
22:43.33Wobinself.cannotHideText (optional) (added 1.1)
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22:43.34MikmaIndustrial: did you count the blizzard folders too in that amount?
22:43.38IndustrialMikma: no
22:43.43Industrialactuall addons
22:43.43WobinHow does that make sense?
22:44.25IndustrialMikma: I did it because I want to prove to myself that I don't need alot of extra functionality to be good at the game
22:44.28IndustrialMikma: I'
22:44.50IndustrialMikma: I'm making G's at the AH and leveling fine. So i guess that works :P
22:45.09IndustrialMikma: Nah its just that I want to make everything myself
22:45.18Industrialcause its fun
22:45.19Industrial:P
22:46.29MikmaWobin: ok here's the beef. I logged in with my Druid with FuXP enabled and database reseted. works. then I logout and entered another server with all addons disabled. then I logout again and change back to my druid with addons enabled. Boom! :66: attempt to index a nil value
22:47.00Wobin=\
22:47.19Wobinthat's really.. odd
22:47.34CIA-1003mikma * r3100 10Bartender/Bartender.lua: Bartender: Next version of DataBase changed, since default layout is different with KeyRing. *Will reset positions!*
22:47.37Mikmai know i am, what about you? ;)
22:48.16MikmaWobin: and, the error won't go away
22:48.32WobinKyahx|afk: Are you having the same issue?
22:48.49WobinLemme try a few of my characters
22:50.33MikmaI'm guessing that the error is really not in the position..
22:53.03MikmaWobin: now i disabled every other FuBar addon and it works
22:53.16Wobinwhat profile are you using?
22:53.20Mikmaso it must be another FuBar plugin which pisses in my eye
22:53.25Mikmadefault propably
22:53.42mjcyeah, pet support is still broken in squishy
22:54.01Kebinusanno one heals pets
22:54.06Wobinthat's true
22:54.11CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3101 10AceLibrary/AceConsole.lua: AceConsole - made shiny. method validation not done yet.
22:54.11Mikmayeah
22:54.14WobinI don't really want pet support in Squishy
22:54.26Mikmai always disable partypets
22:54.38WobinI spent far too much time ignoring a character named 'Akanax' once, cause a hunter had a pet named 'Aranax'
22:54.44ckknightI uploaded cause I gotta take my computer in to fix the space bar
22:54.50WobinPoor Akanax kept dying =P
22:55.06WobinCause every healer in the raid was making the same mistake =P
22:55.48Wobinckknight: I can't seem to get the tablet tooltip thing working
22:56.01ckknightgotta go
22:56.15MikmaWobin: i wonder what's the matter. I got BattlegroundFu, ClockFu, CorkFu, EmoteFu, FuXPFu, HonorFu, MoneyFu and PerformanceFu. with those i'm getting the error
22:57.09Mikmalol
22:58.00mjcok
22:58.02mjcapparently
22:58.21mjcblizz reloads the party frame every time there is a debuff or a player leaves or joins the group/raid
22:58.35mjcso archud needs to re-hide the party frame on those events
22:58.37mjcthat's lame
22:58.56Mikmaheh.
22:59.01Mikmajust do a quick hack :P
22:59.25Mikma<PROTECTED>
22:59.30Mikmaor something
22:59.35Makksquishy looks NICE :)
23:00.19IndustrialDisableDrawLayer() ?
23:00.59Mikmaor something, like i said :)
23:02.21Mikmayeah it's DisableDrawLayer()
23:02.34Mikmai use the same on hiding the god damn KeyRingButton
23:04.50MikmaWobin: now i can't reproduce the error anymore
23:06.02Wobin*headdesk*
23:06.17mjcMikma:  that doesn't do the trick on my PlayerFrame
23:06.44Mikmamjc: well change the name to match? :P
23:06.48mjcI did
23:06.52mjcit hides the portrait
23:07.00mjcnot the rest of the frame
23:07.13mjcvisor says it's PlayerFrame
23:07.26Mikmathen you need to do the same for the frame perhaps?
23:11.06mjcI did PlayerFrame
23:11.12Mikmaso PlayerFrame only disables portrait?
23:11.52mjcyes
23:12.06mjcand visorgui isn't letting me pick any frame for the health and energy bar etc
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23:12.33Mikmatry getting Discord Frame Modifier and look if it finds the framename
23:12.57kergothjust do a /vz set f=PlayerFrame h=TRUE and be done with it.  visor hooks the Show and Hide methods to ensure it stays gone
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23:15.08WobinMikma: What xp info do you want in the tooltip?
23:16.24Industrial<remaining>< +rested> <timetolevel in minutes>|<mobstokilltolevel>
23:16.24MikmaWobin: now/togo (% to level) would be nice. and possibly amount of rested
23:16.24Industrial:-)
23:16.24Wobinindie: no
23:16.24WobinSorry
23:16.24Industrial? :(
23:16.42WobinThere's no way this addon will track xp over time
23:16.42Industrialthats like.. so useful info..
23:16.42Industrialwhy not, its just an average
23:16.42Wobinyeah, but there are other addons that do that
23:16.47kergothunderstandable, i'll be sticking to fubar_experience myself, need xp/hr info
23:17.04Industrial<remaining>< +rested>
23:17.05Industrialthen
23:17.05Industrial:p
23:17.09Wobindone
23:17.49IndustrialI could make my own fontstring wnd put my xp in there... just comes to mind...
23:17.54Mikmasimples is always now/togo (togo%)
23:17.58Industrial(Ill still use this ofcource)
23:18.29IndustrialMikma: thats 'defautest' :P
23:18.53Mikmamahadevaaa
23:19.46Mikmaanyone ever heard of Astral Projection - Mahadeva?
23:19.55Mikmait's Goatrance..
23:20.09kergothastral projection i've heard, i have a few of their cds on my fileserver
23:20.12kergothdont know which ones though
23:20.15kergothmeh
23:20.21kergothi wish my fileserver was up, i miss having music
23:20.31Mikmai got 8.5h of them on my pc :P
23:20.40Mikmanot sorted by albums but by songnames
23:21.26MikmaWobin: imho the line can be a little thinner
23:21.40kergothat last count i had 34,000 mp3s on that box
23:21.40Wobinand the spark?
23:21.47kergothnow i have the 20 cds on my mp3 player
23:22.02MikmaWobin: spark is nice, but it goes under the items/icons on FuBar :(
23:22.07Wobinyeah
23:22.11MikmaWobin: SetFrameStratta("HIGH") ;)
23:22.15WobinI don't really want it to go over it
23:22.26Wobinsince it sticks out a lot
23:22.58Mikmathen make it a little shorter on Y-axel
23:23.15Mikma1-2px
23:23.38Mikmajust make a menu "fat line / thin lin"
23:26.54Wobinmeh
23:27.18Industrialis it on the svn?
23:27.19Industrial:p
23:27.31Wobinyes
23:27.33Mikmahow else could we test it hehe
23:27.37Industrial:>
23:30.02CIA-1003wobin * r3102 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: FuXPFu - Added in xp to tooltip
23:30.11WobinWhat do you want sent to the chatframe?
23:30.26Wobinmeh
23:30.37WobinI'll have to make it go to party/tell etc
23:30.40WobinI'll do that after =P
23:30.43Mikmawell
23:30.56Mikmaeasiest would be it simply pastes the info into whatever chat is open
23:31.19WobinI'd have to look into that
23:31.34Mikmaand the same simple paste would be nice, now/togo (%togo)
23:34.37MikmaBlizzard_GMSurveyUI ...
23:34.49kergoth?
23:35.04Mikmacheck out the Interface/AddOns
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23:35.27kergothhmm
23:36.47Mikmai wonder is it "GuildMaster" or "Game Master"
23:36.50Industrialerror on line 145, attempt to perform arithmic on local restXP
23:37.08IndustrialGM is Game Master
23:37.12IndustrialGL is Guild Leader
23:39.07gnorlishis moonsorrow part of the ACE community
23:39.59IndustrialWobin: fix:
23:40.01Industriallocal restXP = GetXPExhaustion() or 0
23:40.05Industrialon line 141
23:40.06Industrial:)
23:40.19WobinI just did
23:40.52Industrial;o
23:41.38MikmaWobin: the tooltip information is perfect. adding more would propably bloat
23:41.43Mikma+it
23:42.43CIA-1003wobin * r3103 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: FuXPFu - Now sends the current details to an open chat edit box (So prefix your type of send ie '/p' first)
23:42.57Mikmawohoo!
23:43.22Mikmapeople are always asking "how much to level?" now it's easy to paste ;)
23:46.36MikmaWobin: btw the glow is nice now
23:46.40CIA-1003id * r3104 10idChatTimestamps/idChatTimestamps.lua: idChatTimestamps: timestamps are now colored white.
23:47.16MikmaIndustrial: all timestamps?
23:47.49WobinTime to post this up, I guess =)
23:48.02MikmaWobin: wait a tick
23:48.07Wobink
23:48.09Mikmajust one thing...
23:48.29Mikmahow about putting the missing xp-amount as gray-default FuBar line?
23:48.41Wobinhokay
23:49.04Mikmajust a thought :)
23:49.27Mikmameaning if you hit lvl60 the line will be completely default FuBar-line instead of colored purple
23:49.53Mikmaand if you have 25% leveled and 25% more as rested, the rest 50% would be a default FuBar-line
23:53.27WobinWhat's the default fubar colour?
23:53.32kergothhttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic
23:53.40Mikmahumh don't know
23:53.46Mikmai'll try to search
23:58.46Tekcubwewt!
23:58.49TekcubI got a kitty!
23:58.59Tekcubfinally....
23:59.08WobinIRL?
23:59.12TekcubI'm a dorf
23:59.14MikmaLil' Timmy? ;)
23:59.14Wobinah
23:59.17TekcubI hate runecloth...
23:59.21WobinI bet
23:59.34WobinOne of my dorf friends is making the trek towards a strider
23:59.56Tekcub*barf*

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