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00:00.10kergothugh, i need to start bringing a bottle of excedrin tension headache to work
00:00.12kergothnot a good sign
00:00.42cladhairewhatcha working on kerg?
00:00.59kergothugly, ugly, ugly kernel code from a vendor
00:01.11cladhaireeew
00:01.43kergoth<PROTECTED>
00:01.47kergothit's horrendous
00:02.13[ven]doesn't if( not UnitIsPlayer(unit) and UnitPlayerControlled(unit) ) work for pet checking?
00:02.41*** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce5.disney.com)
00:02.50cladhaireeew
00:02.54cladhaireyou'll be able to pull it out i hope?
00:03.05kergoththats the plan, just hurts my head looking at it :P
00:03.12cladhairehehe
00:03.20cladhairedo you have the prot documented, or do you have to pull it from the code?
00:03.41TekkubI don't see one maia
00:03.48kergothi just asked that myself, dont know yet.  i really, really hope its the former :)
00:04.13maiaTekkub: yeah, there is nothing like UnitIsPet("raid23target")
00:04.24maiaand UnitClass() returns stuff like WARRIOR for pets.
00:04.39Tekkubyea it returns Warrior for a lot of things
00:04.57[ven]didn't any of you read my line? ^^
00:05.15Tekkubyea but I don't know if it works :P
00:05.22Mikmamaia: UnitName("pet") ?
00:05.59Tekkubtrying to discover if unitID's that don't contain "pet" are really pets...
00:06.03TekkubIE targets
00:06.14maiaMikma: what if you don't have "pet" but unitids that are "...targettarget"
00:06.22MikmaTipBuddy has some lines for pets but don't know can it help you
00:06.52maiawell, thanks anyway. I'll find a workaround.
00:07.09maiajust thought wowwiki is incomplete
00:11.04Kyahxbuild a table of people with pets, and then use UnitIsUnit("raid32target","somethingInThePetTable")
00:11.33Kyahx?
00:15.38*** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
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00:16.56cladhaireStorm over Cair?
00:17.01maiaKyahx: yeah, thats possible. Just didnt want to have to build a table
00:17.10Kyahxunderstandable
00:17.44Cairennat present, but they are predicting for them to continue off and on for a while yet
00:30.48Mikmacladhaire: now the alt+click won't work on my own frame (oUF2) :P
00:33.14kergothheh, my bro's account got disabled cause someone got the password and got in
00:33.27kergothnow i get to fax them this form and a photocopy of my driver's license and shit to recover it
00:33.31kergothfun fun
00:34.16CIA-1803maia * r2983 10Squishy/ (core.lua frames.lua roster.lua): Squishy: pet support now working properly (hopefully!)
00:35.43cladhaireMikma: I dont know what you keep breaking
00:35.47cladhairebut i'll try to look at it some more this week
00:35.59cladhairekergoth: Boo.. his WoW account?
00:36.03mjcmaia: sorry that I didn't get 'round to it
00:36.08maiano worries
00:36.09cladhairei'm suprised they don't need your birth cert =)
00:37.30kergothcladhaire: under my name atm, since i'm paying and he's under age, was less hassle that way
00:38.08cladhaireunderstandable =)
00:38.09cladhairesame with my bro
00:38.33kergothso now, since i'm at work, he's trying to get my main to blood guard
00:38.35kergothhehe
00:38.53cladhairehaha
00:39.14kergothi think its convinced him to roll a shaman, actually
00:39.18mjcheh
00:39.21mjchorde = meh
00:40.04cladhaire<3 my druid
00:40.06cladhairemade rank 10
00:40.08cladhairethen topped out.
00:40.38kergothpvp ranking sucks, impossible to do casually.  should spend some time working on bg faction rep though, get some rewards
00:41.19mjctome of the ice lord = woot
00:41.40kergothhehe, http://cracki.incast-security.de/pub/geckosen1tor.hello.c is cute
00:41.53kergothcompletely pointless and silly, but i'm easily amused
00:42.08mjchaha
00:42.39cladhairehahah nice.
00:42.55cladhairei was reading tdwtf archives today
00:42.57cladhairemade me smile
00:44.00kergothhehe, http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/77862.aspx
00:44.28cladhairehahah i loved that one.
00:45.57Kyahxgasp: I didnt list my mod as an Ace dependency when I uploaded to WoWI
00:46.06KyahxIt'll be placed in the wrong catagory =(
00:48.37mjcRing of Fury doesn't have drop info meh
00:50.06*** join/#wowace Amadeo (i=zenon@c-69-244-73-129.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
00:50.39AmadeoTekkub! Did you ever fix that GratuityLib bug that appears after you exit a BG?
00:51.43Tekkubdon't think so ,and the bug isn't gratuity
00:51.52Tekkubit's probably SEAura
00:52.06Amadeo:(
00:52.19Tekkub*shrug* it's a minor error
00:52.23Amadeoit breaks all my addons
00:52.26Amadeoafter a BG
00:52.29Mikmacladhaire: well the keybind's just don't work for some frames every now and then, just like now i can't alt+leftmouse on playerframe, nothing happens :P
00:52.29Tekkubsince when?
00:52.31Amadeowell, FuBar addons
00:52.43Tekkubokey then it must not be the same error
00:52.44KyahxTekkub, I was meaning to talk to you about SE... :P
00:52.56Tekkubwhat about it?
00:53.00cladhairedoesn't alt-left move the frames?
00:53.03AmadeoTekkub: I don't have the error message right now, but I'll have it again later...I've pasted it in here a few times though :D
00:53.03cladhaireand doesn't that still work?
00:53.06cladhairehrm.
00:53.10KyahxI really want to write a new raid tacker addon =/ I hate CT_RT
00:53.19Kyahxdoes SE have any special raid events?
00:53.22Mikmacladhaire: yes it does but it works on other frames
00:53.31Tekkubpasting it here doesn't do shit.  put it on my portal if you want it to get on my todo list
00:53.40Tekkubraidtracker?
00:53.47mjcKyahx: ditto
00:54.00Kyahxfor tracking whos there, loot, people going afk, join / leaveing raids
00:54.13Kyahxwho was part of certain boss kills, etc...
00:54.14Tekkubloot... FuBar GreedBeacon
00:54.30Tekkubas for the other shit, pulling a raid roster is fairly easy
00:54.41Tekkubtho slightly bugged till 1.11
00:54.57Tekkublook at ProximityLib, it keeps a roster
00:54.59AmadeoTekkub: It's already on your portal
00:55.04mjcbe nice to have exoticmaterials work ;P
00:55.06Kyahxmmkay
00:55.10Tekkubokey then amad
00:55.28AmadeoI think it's the same one you're speaking of with SEAura
00:55.37Amadeoit just appears as GratuityLib?
00:55.43Tekkubtha shouldn't break Gratuity
00:56.03Amadeobut it only happens to me right after I've just finished a BG and I zone out
00:56.05Tekkubyes, I need to put in ckk's library assert so you can get the "real" error causer
00:56.37TekkubGratuity should re-owner it's tooltip when it needs it
00:57.01Tekkuband don't come back!
00:57.06AmadeoI know it breaks FuBar_QuestFu, not sure what else
00:57.10Amadeohave to check again
00:57.18Tekkubquestfu uses gratuity?
00:57.20Amadeoer, QuestsFu
00:57.30Amadeonot sure, it's not in the folder
00:57.48Tekkubthen prolly not
00:57.56TekkubI don't think it's included in Fu core
00:58.04Amadeomaybe something else is causing the bug?
00:58.28Tekkubyea yea... I need to put in the error crap already
00:58.35Tekkubbut my motivation is bluh
00:58.44TekkubI have tomorrow off, we'll see what happens
00:58.58Tekkubgonna go veg in front of the TV for a few :)
00:59.20Amadeohehe, take care man
01:01.00AmadeoI just can't live without your addons, otherwise I wouldn't bug you about it ;)
01:01.11cladhaireoh
01:01.16cladhairetaht's all we have to do to get rid of you?
01:01.22cladhaireis have tekkub stop releasing to you for a bit?
01:01.29cladhairei didn't know it was so easy=)
01:01.43Kyahx:P
01:01.49AmadeoTekkub always releases when I'm involved
01:02.10mjcyou rock his boat eh
01:02.25Amadeohahah
01:02.45Amadeocladhaire loves me in disguise
01:02.50Kaeltenwow http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/76850.aspx
01:05.09cladhairelies
01:05.19cladhaireKaelten: hehe
01:05.19Amadeo:)
01:09.37ckknightback
01:10.02ckknightyea, Neronix`sleep, Ace2 has a trojan that'll eat your brain
01:12.55mjccladhaire: I <3 perfectraid
01:13.00mjcPRT is kind of icky though
01:14.45cladhairesorry its buggy atm
01:15.05mjcit would be really nice if I could use PR for party frames too
01:15.07mjcinstead of just raid
01:16.40cladhaireyeah i know
01:16.47cladhaireand i feel like i'm neglecting my users..
01:16.58cladhairebut time has been a precious commodity lately
01:22.11Kyahx~devtools
01:22.13purlmethinks devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999
01:22.21KyahxI should probley download that
01:23.22cladhairemy users are so patient with me
01:23.24cladhaire<3 them
01:23.38cladhaireof course it doesn't help that watchdog has been stable for quite some time
01:24.58mjcUplink is bleh
01:28.00Mikmahttp://beta.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10871124&sid=1
01:29.27Mikmahttp://beta.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10871124&pageNo=2 haha on the first blue reply
01:29.40cladhairelol
01:30.16*** join/#wowace ckknight_ (i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com)
01:36.14Tekkub"A Tokyo police officer must travel to Paris to kill his daughter and her demonic fetus" <--- who was smoking what when they made this movie?
01:36.32cladhairehave you SEEN Snakes on a Plane?
01:36.32cladhairelol
01:36.45TekkubI don't wanna....
01:39.10Mikmahere's another nice feature of new forums: http://beta.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10681102&sid=1 (look at the last post on that page)
01:39.45cladhaireaye.
01:39.48cladhairethat and moving
01:39.50cladhairevery nice features.
01:42.47ckknight_I implore the god of OO (who I still believe is also Gopala, protector of cows). Should I make subclasses inherit static methods? currently they do, I know how to easily make it not (so it acts like a normal OO scheme)
01:42.58Mikmahttp://ui.worldofwar.net/
01:44.28ckknight_Alpha = Class(); function Alpha:StaticMethod() print("thingy") end; Bravo = Class(Alpha)
01:44.51ckknight_should Bravo:StaticMethod() exist or not?
01:49.25Kaeltenckknight_:  static functions would be Bravo.StaticMethod() would it not?
01:50.15ckknight_I guess
01:50.28ckknight_I'm just talking about whether it should inherit static methods
01:50.31ckknight_it's not "normal"
01:50.40ckknight_Moonwolf said it was eeuuh yesterday
01:50.51Kaeltenhow do you define a static function compared to a normal function?
01:51.05ckknight_function Alpha:StaticMethod()
01:51.12ckknight_function Alpha.prototype:InstanceMethod()
01:51.21Kaeltenah
01:51.30ckknight_Alpha:new():InstanceMethod()
01:52.00ckknight_frankly, I'm gonna agree with Moonwolf and say that static methods shouldn't inherit
01:52.12ckknight_just want to know how others feel
01:52.28Kaeltenwell then no they shouldn't inherit, because they aren't part of the prototype
01:52.52ckknight_right
01:53.04ckknight_it's a super easy change
01:53.07Kaeltencan you do instance.class:StaticFunction()
01:53.09Kaelten?
01:53.12ckknight_yes.
01:53.27Kaeltenk
01:53.31ckknight_I don't really recommend it, though
01:53.41KaeltenI was just curious
01:54.47ckknight_alright, now this way one class can override its new method without causing harm to its children
01:55.54Kaeltenok I'm stil leaning to AceAddon requiring AceEvents
01:56.20Kaeltenand implicitly including it.   does any devs here have any input on this?
01:56.33cladhaireevery addon needs AceEvents
01:56.36cladhairei dont know why it wouldn't be included.
01:56.56ckknight_not every addon
01:57.05ckknight_most
01:57.07Kaeltenckknight_ is leaning towards making it optional, but if its not present then AceAddon will work differently.
01:57.20cladhairei would say that 70% of addons need to regieter for at least one event.
01:57.30ckknight_what about the other 30%?
01:57.32cladhaireleaving it out saves you nothing.
01:57.38cladhairewhich is an important point.
01:57.46cladhairewhen the majority of addons need it.
01:57.50ckknight_so why not include every single mixin available?
01:57.57cladhairebecause they're not all 25 lines of code
01:58.00hyperChipmunkit's only a problem if no addons need it, correct?
01:58.00cladhaireand central to ALL addons
01:58.02cladhairenot all addons hook
01:58.07cladhairealmost every addon register for an event.
01:58.10hyperChipmunkI mean, only unnecessary
01:58.15hyperChipmunkif you have 10 ace addons
01:58.15Kaeltenckknight_:  in the optional build will AceEvent be loaded up at all.
01:58.17hyperChipmunkone's bound to need it
01:58.32Kaelten?
01:58.32ckknight_Kaelten, it will, cause AceAddon proper uses it
01:58.47ckknight_I just think that having it be explicit is better than implicit
01:58.51Kaeltenthen since its in memory whats gained by leaving it out of the standard interface?
01:58.54cladhairefor who?
01:59.10hyperChipmunksounds like a good source of 'wtf' errors
02:00.09hyperChipmunk'wuh, my addon can't handle events unless I say so? if I don't use ace, I can handle them without saying anything, why do I have to write code to activate it again?'
02:00.26hyperChipmunk'wtf ace adds so much bloat, /delete'
02:00.47ckknight_"omg, ace adds this for me even if I don't use it"
02:00.54cladhaire*sigh*
02:00.59cladhairei won't get into this conversation again
02:01.08clad|sleepI'm off for the night folks.
02:01.11clad|sleephave a good evening.
02:01.11hyperChipmunkbut ace uses it
02:01.17hyperChipmunkso it's loaded anyway
02:01.33ckknight_yea? so I say again, why not load all available mixins?
02:01.47clad|sleepbecause they're not already loaded.
02:01.48ckknight_if you implicitly load one
02:01.49clad|sleepits simple.
02:02.03ckknight_and if they are?
02:02.05hyperChipmunkace uses all mixins?
02:02.28hyperChipmunkI don't think anyone has any problem with just not using it if they don't want it
02:02.46hyperChipmunkit's not gonna make a difference in performance or memory usage
02:03.00hyperChipmunkI don't want to enable every API function when I use them
02:03.21ckknight_how is an implicit programming model better than an explicit programming model?
02:03.28hyperChipmunk'i'm only dealing with units, why is my addon allowed to use frame API'
02:03.43hyperChipmunk'i should have to explicitly allow it to use frame functions'
02:03.56hyperChipmunkbecause ppl are moron
02:04.17hyperChipmunkthere's no performance difference
02:04.30hyperChipmunkso don't make them deal with more than they have to
02:04.50ckknight_what if I want to handle my own events? shouldn't I have the control?
02:05.01ckknight_or if I don't use events
02:05.07hyperChipmunkthen don't use ace events
02:05.13hyperChipmunkjust do it the normal way
02:05.17ckknight_right
02:05.25ckknight_that's what people should be allowed to do
02:05.27hyperChipmunkace is still using it
02:05.37Kaeltenok, here is my decision.
02:05.39hyperChipmunkso it isn't a problem making it available if they want it
02:05.53hyperChipmunkif they don't want it, they'll just use their own way
02:06.11ckknight_you have to tell me how implicit programming is better than explicit programming?
02:06.12KaeltenIn the spirit of keeping with the design philosphy for ace2 you'll have to include it explicitly like you would any other mixin
02:06.24ckknight_alright
02:06.37ckknight_implicit programming forces you to know things that are nonobvious
02:06.42ckknight_that's my major beef with it
02:06.45hyperChipmunkexplicit doesnt'?
02:06.54ckknight_right, that's why it's explicit
02:07.16ckknight_I think this all stems from the pythonic philosophy in my head
02:07.29hyperChipmunkhow's someone going to intuitively guess that they need to write a specific line of code to allow them to use events
02:07.44Kaeltenbecause we'll explain that in the headings
02:07.48Kaeltenerr documention
02:07.59ckknight_I already made documentation, hyperChipmunk
02:08.32ckknight_btw
02:08.45hyperChipmunkthere are some that make sense to be in there by default, some that don't; I think anything that's a normal property of writing wow addons should be explicitly turned off, rather than on
02:09.08ckknight_but that's not how the rest of the framework works
02:09.23ckknight_I don't want AceEvent to be a fringe case
02:09.38hyperChipmunkI use string.find without loading the string library every time
02:09.56ckknight_honestly, I personally think you should have to import the string namespace
02:10.06hyperChipmunkperhaps
02:10.22Kebinusanhmm
02:10.31Kaelten<PROTECTED>
02:10.32hyperChipmunkbut that's not consistent with the wow interface design conventions
02:10.52ckknight_you don't have to use AceAddon to use the mixins
02:11.10ckknight_if you want, you can make your own class that includes AceEvent, AceHook, AceDB
02:11.13ckknight_and use that
02:11.33hyperChipmunkwell, I'm working on a vastly ignorant sense of what Ace2 is
02:11.41ckknight_hrm
02:11.44hyperChipmunkso I'm just talking from a 'user' perspective
02:11.57ckknight_Ace2 is not Ace1
02:12.00Kaeltenit is a mixed perspective
02:12.03hyperChipmunkif I was writing code with Ace2 without studying it
02:12.13ckknight_you'd probably read the tutorial
02:12.29hyperChipmunklike, using it as a tool, not caring about internal workings
02:12.39ckknight_right.
02:13.04snurremeh, i need some php help
02:13.10ckknight_hit me
02:13.12hyperChipmunkI wouldn't expect to have to load a whole thingy to do plugins; it would seem that I'm just bloating it, and will use the regular event handling interface
02:13.21snurresec, lemme get a pastebin for you
02:13.22hyperChipmunks/plugins/events/
02:14.03KaeltenhyperChipmunk:  I think once you see ace2 in action you may end up liking it.
02:14.09hyperChipmunkoh I don't doubt it
02:14.13hyperChipmunkand I trust your decisions
02:14.18ckknight_hyperChipmunk, as an aside, could you read my tutorials?
02:14.22ckknight_I want feedback
02:14.22hyperChipmunkI'm just trying to offer a different perspective
02:14.30Kaeltenand its appriciated :)
02:14.31ckknight_I do get that
02:14.34hyperChipmunkI did the same when ckknight was writing fubar
02:14.41hyperChipmunkI think it was for the better
02:14.57Kaeltenpart of our ideas come from the fact thatt is more than one way to do some things, like AceDB
02:15.27snurrehttp://pastebin.ca/67487  <-- for some reason it wont loop through the array $test the second time around.. seems reset() has no function :/
02:15.35ckknightthe system as it stands now, you could swap in your own database mixin if you want, no harm, no foul
02:15.50KaeltenOne author may want to use one type of Db class where someone else might want to use a different type
02:15.59Kaeltensame with any other part of it all
02:16.34ckknightsnurre, omg complicated. been to long, ask in #php
02:16.41snurremeh
02:16.44ckknighttoo*
02:17.32Kaeltenckknight:   where did you stick the documentation at?
02:17.49ckknightExamples folder in the acelibrary branch
02:18.25Mikmahttp://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/AceLibrary/Examples/
02:18.37Kaeltenalso are the classes you've been using ready for use in wow?
02:18.50ckknightin theory
02:19.03ckknightI still need to add interfaces to mixins
02:19.11ckknightthen I'll be satisfied with AceOO
02:19.56ckknighte.g. I want a Barker mixin that inherits from IBarkable
02:20.23Kaelteneta on that?
02:23.25ckknightum, an hour?
02:23.35Kaeltenlol
02:23.37Kaeltenk
02:23.45KaeltenI forget you have too much free time
02:23.46ckknightmmm... cookie
02:23.56ckknightI went job searching earlier today
02:24.08ckknightapparently it's what I'm supposed to do in modern society
02:25.15Kaeltenheh
02:25.19Kaeltenif I didn't have to I wouldn't
02:25.32KaeltenI would find a way to make money doing something I enjoy.
02:25.37ckknightit's apparently to get in contact with real people
02:25.54Mikmaok Neo
02:26.14Kaeltenreal people or overrated I see them every day.
02:26.39ckknightNeo?
02:27.05ckknightI r teh 1, lol
02:27.15Mikmayeah, real people just reminded me of Matrix suddenly
02:27.55ckknightEs gibt kein Löffel
02:28.51ckknightthat's one phrase I remember in German
02:28.58ckknightmeans "There is no spoon"
02:29.33Mikmalöffel, i'll name my next char that :D
02:30.06Mikmabut propable the best word in german is Lederhosen
02:30.12snurrewee i solved my php problem :p
02:30.20snurreforeach() > each() :p
02:31.10ckknightah
02:50.51Tekkubjoy, they fucked with DKP even more in my guild...
02:51.36Tekkubyou can now earn it if you sign up but the raid is full and you sit on your ass outside the instance the whole time... while also on teamspeak and acknowledging you're still on your ass after every boss kill
02:52.04hyperChipmunkownage
02:52.04TekkubAND there's now a 20% DKP decay if you miss 4 raids.. IE you have to raid like once a week minimum
02:52.23TekkubI hope my negative DKP decays too...
02:52.27hyperChipmunkhehe
02:52.33Tekkubgod that makes me want to not raid now
02:52.39Kyahx=/
02:52.58Kyahxonce a week isnt that bad thou
02:52.59Tekkublike, I cannot commit to anything, I don't even know my week's scheduled till monday
02:53.10hyperChipmunkI had DKP decay in my old system; it contributed to the zero-sum, iirc
02:53.19Tekkubyea but some weeks I can't do any raids Kyahx
02:53.28hyperChipmunkit was very little though
02:53.30hyperChipmunk20% is harsh
02:53.37Tekkub20 is very harsh
02:53.48Tekkubin a month's absence you'd loose all your DKP
02:54.12Kebinusanwow that is rough
02:54.50Tekkubplus it really doesn't solve any problems
02:54.53Kebinusan<-- having fun with double nullifier pull because someone wasnt following the MA
02:55.15Tekkubthe people that "need" to lose DKP are the ones that attend every raid and are fully equipped... they got like 400+
02:55.22Tekkubset items cost 25
02:55.41Kebinusanyea, you need a cap type loss not an attendance based one
02:55.55Tekkubexactly
02:56.05Tekkubplus each run nets in about 15 DKP
03:01.25Kebinusanwow thats alot earned vs spent
03:02.03Tekkubyea this is why I am trying to get them to push 0-sum
03:02.14TekkubDKP in the guild is badly inflated
03:02.37Tekkubthe biggest issue is that MC runs really only bring in gear for the new, non-regular people
03:02.57Tekkuball the people that are there all the time are very well equipped
03:03.05Kebinusanyeah that sucks, hard to get the peopel who benefit from it to desire change
03:03.23Kebinusanyeah familiar with that problem, you earn more dkp in mc than you do in bwl from bringing newbs and alts
03:03.24Tekkubyea...
03:03.33TekkubI need a new guild/server/class badly
03:03.38Tekkubsomeone please save me
03:03.52Tekkuband I need someone to level with me too :)
03:04.52hyperChipmunkwould you like fries with that?
03:05.18Kebinusanwait for paid server transfers we could always use a lua bitch
03:05.21Kebinusan:-)
03:05.34TekkubI don't want to transfer my toon
03:05.38TekkubI want a healer
03:05.52TekkubI only took hunter for the free bear
03:06.01Kebinusanah
03:06.24mjcTekkub: any plans to fix uplink?
03:06.39Tekkubno, it's gonna be unneeded come 1.11
03:06.45mjcyeah
03:06.52Tekkuband uh... it's fixd locally :)
03:07.06TekkubI don't know why self wasn't getting passed, but it was easily fixed
03:07.13mjcthe function that it calls on line 44 doesn't exist
03:07.16mjc;P
03:07.31Tekkubyea it does, self wasn't getting passed
03:07.41Tekkubthe error is attempt to index 'self' a nil
03:07.57Tekkubchange that self to Uplink and it works fine
03:10.48Kebinusanslowly converting my guildmates to ace mods is fun
03:11.39CIA-1803ckknight 07ckknight * r2984 10AceLibrary/ (AceDB.lua AceOO.lua):
03:11.39CIA-18AceOO - internals changed slightly.
03:11.39CIA-18Mixins can now inherit from interfaces, which are passed on to the classes who inherit.
03:12.02CIA-1803ckknight 07TestSuite * r2985 10AceLibrary/ (AceOO-Mixin-3.lua AceOO-Mixin-4.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceOO-Mixin-3.lua and AceOO-Mixin-4.lua
03:12.03ckknightalright
03:12.17ckknightif I'm not mistaken, we now have a full-featured OO framework.
03:13.11ckknightwith classes, interfaces, and mixins
03:13.15ckknightand all happy with each other
03:14.42ckknight:-)
03:14.44Kyahxif table.key[val] = 1 then self:dostuff() end   <-- that should work right?
03:14.51ckknightnope.
03:15.11ckknightcannot assign a value in the middle of an if statement
03:15.29Kyahxs/=/==
03:15.35ckknightokay
03:15.36ckknightyes, then
03:15.37Kyahxthe table.key[val] part is what im asking about
03:15.39Kebinusanbtw doing trash pulls in windowed mode is hot
03:15.40Kyahxkk
03:16.12hyperChipmunkhaving a second monitor is hotter
03:16.28Kebinusanyes that would be
03:16.54hyperChipmunkMC is when I write most of my code
03:16.59hyperChipmunkand between BG matches
03:17.38hyperChipmunknice thing running under wine, too, is that you never lose the sound effects
03:20.55ckknightwoot: I did a very shiny advancement to AceDB's defaults system
03:22.12ckknightif your char defaults is { ["."] = true }, then self.db.char.<key> == true
03:22.21ckknightwhere <key> is any value
03:22.35ckknightit works for tables, too
03:23.41hyperChipmunkshoulda made it *
03:23.45ckknighthrm
03:23.45ckknightokay
03:23.47ckknightworks for me
03:23.50ckknight["*"]
03:23.54hyperChipmunkI do that sometimes, actually
03:24.06hyperChipmunkjust by accident
03:24.18hyperChipmunkmy brain types table.* = foo
03:24.26ckknightbasically, you now can set a default value for the whole table
03:24.42ckknightwhich can be very handy
03:24.47hyperChipmunkyes
03:25.01hyperChipmunklike I said, I've actually tried doign it before =)
03:25.17hyperChipmunkthat's awesome
03:25.30mjcwe're using bigwigs and ora_bigwigs for ZG atm
03:25.42ckknightsee, hyperChipmunk, I knew you'd like Ace2 ;-)
03:25.56hyperChipmunkI never doubted that for a minute
03:27.37hyperChipmunknow the next question
03:28.08hyperChipmunkfoo.*.bar=baz
03:28.17hyperChipmunkgreat for unitframes, off the top of my head
03:28.27ckknight{ foo = { ["*"] = { bar = baz } } }
03:28.34hyperChipmunkmyunitframes.*.alpha=0.5
03:28.39ckknightand yes, it's intelligent
03:28.52ckknightso a new table is made every time
03:29.00ckknightbut only on first access
03:29.00hyperChipmunkto make all your frames alpha = 0.5
03:29.03ckknightright
03:29.15ckknightit's fully available, chip
03:29.31hyperChipmunkbeauty, eh
03:29.32mjcPerfectRaid needs to show DI's
03:29.39hyperChipmunkit does
03:29.42hyperChipmunkwait
03:29.44hyperChipmunkno it doesn't
03:29.44ckknight{ myunitframes = { [*] = { alpha = 0.5 } } }
03:30.51hyperChipmunkwhat about CastSpellByName("Remove Curse", raid.*)
03:31.05KyahxI've attempted to start work on a new Raid Track mod.  I have it auto-tracking loot atleast :P  thats a first step
03:31.09hyperChipmunki.e. will it heal my raid for me?
03:31.21ckknightsadly, no
03:31.27Kyahxsadly no indeed =/
03:31.38ckknighterr, { myunitframes = { ['*'] = { alpha = 0.5 } } }
03:31.39hyperChipmunkthen it isn't finished yet
03:31.44ckknightthe quotes are important
03:31.49hyperChipmunkya, I caught that
03:31.52hyperChipmunkI knew what you meant
03:36.11CIA-1803ckknight 07ckknight * r2986 10AceLibrary/AceDB.lua: AceDB - now can use ["*"] as a defaults key to mean all keys.
03:36.43CIA-1803ckknight 07TestSuite * r2987 10AceLibrary/ (AceDB-defaults-3.lua AceDB-defaults-4.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceDB-defaults-3.lua and AceDB-defaults-4.lua
03:36.56ckknight:-)
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03:52.41Thiana<PROTECTED>
03:56.58mjcme
03:57.13mjc#1 on the dps meter as usual with shitty gear :D
03:57.29mjcwhat do you need?
03:57.35mjcThiana, that is
03:57.57ThianaCan you tell me what the exact name of the pick lock skill is in the skill window please?
04:03.51hyperChipmunkI think it's just Pick Lock
04:04.03Kebinusanhmm seems the Unit affecting combat scan to start the c'thun mod was taken out, so it throws peoples timers out of whack if they dont see the initial eye beam event in the combat log
04:04.05hyperChipmunkthat's what the skill is called
04:04.39FryGuydoes the c'thun mod use the sync?
04:05.02Kebinusandoesnt look like the latest svn does
04:05.17Kebinusanit definately should though or do the unit affecting combat scan
04:05.37ThianaIt's apparently something else in the skill window though hC :/ I have Pick Lock and it's not working apparently. So I'm guessing it's Lock Picking, or Lockpicking, or some such?
04:14.24hyperChipmunkcheck globalstrings.lua
04:15.42Tekkuboh I had a kickass idea for one of the AQ20 modules
04:15.59TekkubOruo is it?  the bug with the eggs you blow up on him...
04:16.13Tekkubsend sync messages when the eggs are at 10% life
04:16.24Tekkubmaybe have an option to set the %
04:18.02hyperChipmunkno
04:18.11hyperChipmunkum, something the Gorger
04:18.28hyperChipmunkBuru
04:18.32hyperChipmunkBuru the Gorger
04:18.37Tekkubyea that's it
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04:21.14ThianahC: globalstrings.lua?
04:23.15KyahxTekkub: it would be nice during the Rajaxx fight if someone was targetting the general, and his HP was low to send a heal message.
04:23.52Kyahx** General Andorov needs food badly **
04:24.01hyperChipmunkhehe
04:24.16Thiana~poke hyperChipmunk
04:24.22purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind hyperChipmunk, pokes hyperChipmunk repeatedly, hilarity ensues
04:24.22Tekkubyea that could be a good thing to add
04:24.28Kyahxthe whole BigWigs sync thing could do some cool stuff CT never could even think of doing :P
04:24.31Tekkubwe did our first time keeping him up finally
04:24.36hyperChipmunker, in the FrameXML dir
04:24.41Tekkuband he broke and ran away
04:24.58Kyahxnice
04:25.02Tekkubyea
04:25.03Kebinusanyeah c'thun definately needs some sync code
04:25.05hyperChipmunkhas all the interface strings
04:25.30Kebinusanyou dont get weakened emotes when in the stomach so timers dont get reset, plus the timers dont properly start when the first person enters combat, so everyones timers are a little bit off
04:25.36Tekkubwho wrote the AQ20 modules.. .we need to whine at him to do this
04:25.39Kebinusanmakin notes
04:25.40hyperChipmunkand you can use the variable instead of the string itself, so you localize automatically
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04:26.08Tekkubyou know...
04:26.15ThianaDoesnt look like any spells/skills are in that file. Just generic interface stuff.
04:26.22TekkubI want to get some work on BW core done tomorrow if maint allows it
04:26.35TekkubI want to get a beta up so we can con more people into using this
04:26.45hyperChipmunkwhich is what you're looking for
04:26.48Kebinusansounds cool
04:26.57Tekkubat least make it easier for the Devs to get their guilds using it
04:26.57Kyahxa beta version worthy of WoWI posting?
04:26.59KebinusanIm /combatlogging this c'thun fight so I have something to work off of
04:27.27KebinusanI think most of the boss mods need to be re-written with some kind of sync code so that timer bars fire properly
04:27.34ThianaNo... I need the skill name the client uses.
04:28.07Thiana[/netfs/wow/pluto/Blizzard Interface Data/FrameXML]$ grep -i lock GlobalStrings.lua | grep -i pick
04:28.07ThianaOPTION_TOOLTIP_LOCK_ACTIONBAR = "Prevents the user from picking up/dragging spells on the action bar. This function can be bound to a function key in the keybindings interface.";
04:28.21ThianaNothing about lockpicking :(
04:28.23hyperChipmunkhttp://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?sp=1804
04:29.00ThianaThanks :) 'Lockpicking' apparently.
04:33.27CIA-1803thiana * r2988 10BabbleLib/Spell/BabbleLib-Spell.lua: BabbleLib-Spell: Added 'Lockpicking', needs de/fr/zh/etc translations though.
04:35.38mjcThiana: http://www.canoo.net/services/Controller?dispatch=inflection&input=Dietrich&features=(Cat+N)&lang=en
04:35.48mjcthere's the german translation :P
04:36.28ThianaUmm, which form on that page? ;)
04:36.54Kaeltennight guys
04:36.56TainThe addon EasyUnlock has localizations around lockpicking, you might be able to pull from there.
04:37.17ThianaOh, thanks Tain :)
04:37.35KyahxI wonder if I should toss my branch of AceHeal onto WoWI, it hasnt been updated since Thristerhall's release.
04:38.33mjcwhy not
04:39.47Kyahxindeed, current one is stable enough.  May as well upload it before I tear it apart. :P
04:41.14CIA-1803thiana * r2989 10BabbleLib/Spell/BabbleLib-Spell.lua: BabbleLib-Spell: Added DE translation for 'Lockpicking' from EasyUnlock addon.
04:47.35KyahxWoWace.com down for anyone else?
04:52.12hyperChipmunkgoodnight, losers whom I've always hated
04:53.11CIA-1803kyahx 07Kyahx * r2990 10AceHeal/AceHeal/ (. Changelog.txt Documentation.txt Locals/AceHealLocals.lua):
04:53.11CIA-18AceHeal:R12kx03b
04:53.11CIA-18<PROTECTED>
04:53.30kergoththe 11000 releases have started i see
04:53.34Kyahxwoot for misspellings :P
04:53.40Kyahxthats not really a 11000 release
04:53.59Kyahxjust comming what I have now before I tear it apart to try and add BabbleLib in
04:54.13Cairennsome of them have, yes kergoth
04:54.25CairennIriel's stuff is all updated on WoWI
04:54.30sedatedChipmunkisn't 11000 the current one?
04:54.56kergothsedatedChipmunk, 11000 is 1.11, the one coming out tomorrow
04:55.11Cairennno, 11100
04:55.12sedatedChipmunkno, 11000 is 1.10, I'm pretty sure
04:55.23ThianaIs 1.11 confirmed for tomorrow then?
04:55.33Cairennyes
04:55.48kergothoh, right, helps if i get it correct :)
04:55.56Cairennit's been confirmed and in the subject line of the lounge for hours now
04:56.03sedatedChipmunk[staharaj@hyperion]$ grep Interface FrameXML.old/FrameXML.toc
04:56.03sedatedChipmunk## Interface: 11000
04:56.23kergothyes, chipmunk, i was incorrect, the new one is 11100, as cair said
04:56.27kergothyou have a box named hyperion too?
04:56.32kergothmy fileserver is that
04:56.47sedatedChipmunkall my boxes are titans
04:57.05kergothmine are all book references. hyperion after the 4 book series, hyperion, endymion, etc
04:57.22kergoththis box is crydee, from the krondor books
04:57.29kergothkergoth.com is covenant, from thomas covenant the unbeliever
04:58.04sedatedChipmunkah, mine are Hyperion, Prometheus, Mnemosyne, etc.
04:58.19kergothnod, cool
04:58.32ThianaMine are pluto, minerva, vulcan, mars, juno, janus, jupiter
04:58.56sedatedChipmunkRomans >8p
04:59.06ThianaYes :)
05:00.02kergothhmm, i need to name one after something from the song of ice and fire series
05:08.37kergothmy poor cpu just hit 83 degrees celcius
05:08.59kergothtiny shuttle box, athlon 64, in a hotel room with a broken air conditioner, in arizona, in june = b00m
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05:26.07Kyahxallright, its bed time.  GL with the patch tomarrow everyone
05:27.04Tekkubpatch day tomorrow they say
05:27.23Kebinusanaye
05:30.49ckknight_I have driven a van!
05:34.35CIA-1803ckknight 07ckknight * r2991 10AceLibrary/ (AceLibraryBase.lua AceLocale.lua):
05:34.35CIA-18AceLibraryBase - split into AceLibraryBase and AceLibraryBaseClass (requires AceOO)
05:34.35CIA-18Only requires AceOO if you use AceLibraryBaseClass now.
05:35.11Kebinusanthe tentacle respawn after weakenings is off too, but yay c'thun dead
05:35.17CIA-1803ckknight 07TestSuite * r2992 10AceLibrary/ (7 files): Ace2/TestSuite - changed AceLibraryBase unit tests for new API
05:36.12haste_good morning
05:36.54ckknightmorning
05:36.59Kebinusanmornin
05:44.41ckknightyou know what's awesome?
05:44.43ckknightbagels.
05:51.57CIA-1803ckknight 07ckknight * r2993 10AceLibrary/AceAddon.lua:
05:51.57CIA-18AceAddon - instances not inheriting from AceEvent now get their OnEnable() fired for them on PLAYER_LOGIN.
05:51.58CIA-18Note: this also happily decouples AceAddon from a hard tying with AceEvent.
05:53.38CIA-1803ckknight 07TestSuite * r2994 10AceLibrary/AceAddon-4.lua: Ace2/TestSuite - added AceAddon-4.lua
05:57.33Kebinusanindeed
05:57.41Kebinusaneverything bagels
05:58.05ckknightyes
05:58.09ckknightbagels ftw
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06:08.57ckknighthey Wobin
06:09.53ckknightshould I work on AceOptions, thus completing the last piece of the Ace2 puzzle or leave it to someone else?
06:10.40WobinIs it assigned to anyone atm?
06:10.52ckknightI don't think anyone has claimed it
06:14.18WobinGo for it
06:15.23ckknightif I do this, it means my grubby little fingers have meddled with every single part of Ace2
06:16.16ckknights/have/will have/
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06:27.12WobinThat's not a bad thing, though
06:27.42ckknightyea
06:27.49ckknightI suppose
06:28.17ckknightnot a single line of AceLibrary is the same as it was when I started
06:28.25ckknightand most of AceOO has been altered
06:28.39ckknightone thing I haven't overly meddled with is AceHook
06:29.06MoonWolfmost likely because it has been worked on it so much.
06:29.31Kebinusanho humm
06:30.16ckknightI'm writing the Coins example for Ace2 now
06:32.24Kebinusanarg this is so annoying, monster emotes dont appear in the combat log
06:32.57ckknightwouldn't it be in ChatFrame1?
06:33.37Kebinusanyea, but Im sorta doing this after the fact
06:33.56MoonWolfsystem message controll tool ftw.
06:34.01CIA-1803elkano * r2995 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua: GloryLib: changed IsInBattlegrounds() to use MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status instead of zone name. The function will now return the correct value when PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fires
06:34.09ckknightthanks Elkano
06:34.58Elkanowell, I just noticed that I didn't commit ^^'
06:35.10ckknightanyone know where Coins for Ace1.3 is?
06:35.44ckknightor what it does
06:35.45haste_in the ace developement package
06:35.51haste_no idea what it does :p
06:36.10MoonWolfi forgot what it did
06:36.10MoonWolfsomething to do with money
06:36.20MoonWolfcounting money differences after transactions perhaps.
06:36.45Elkanockknight, I'll remove the metrognome timer for the map from HonorFu since it's no longer needed :)
06:36.51ckknightk
06:37.01ElkanoMoonWolf, found time to have a look?
06:37.11MoonWolfnot yet
06:37.14MoonWolfwhen i get home
06:37.15MoonWolfagain
06:37.27MoonWolfi blame my brothers birthday
06:38.45haste_I'm going to sleep a little, hopefully I get a idea about how I can solve the little dewdrop issue ;D
06:39.04ckknightissue?
06:39.29haste_I want one menu, for several addons
06:39.34Elkanobtw: will 1.11 be released today in US?
06:39.37haste_and not hard code it
06:39.43ckknightyes
06:40.21Elkanook, so I'll have a lot of 'fun' tomorrow ;)
06:40.28ckknightugh
06:40.38ckknightpeople are gonna bitch saying FuBar is out of date
06:40.47ckknightI won't disagree with em :-P
06:41.29MoonWolfhehe
06:41.32weabmy bosspanel is out of date!
06:41.38haste_haha
06:41.39MoonWolfload out of date addons people
06:41.43MoonWolfthat check is your friend.
06:42.00haste_I blame blizzard for putting a scary note on it
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06:43.32ckknightnah, I'll leave it out of date till FuBar 2.0 likely
06:47.12Elkanobtw: if anyone of you using one of my addons finds a bug today, I'll try to fix it... but I won't be able to test myself until tomorrow
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06:48.48ckknighthey maia
06:48.59maiaheya :)
06:49.25MoonWolfhello
06:59.47Neronix`sleepckknight: I've got Coins and a commented template here if you still need them
06:59.55ckknightI got coins
07:00.02ckknightdecided it was too complicated.
07:00.04ckknight:-P
07:00.20NeronixWell, this template's an order of magnitude simpler
07:00.28ckknighthrm
07:00.29ckknightokay
07:00.36ckknightemail it to my gmail, I guess
07:00.54ckknightah
07:00.57ckknighttricksy.
07:01.01Neronix:P
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07:05.18ckknightokay, there should be a proper AceConsole
07:05.27ckknightwhich is similar to the current AceChatCmd
07:05.57ckknighthrm
07:06.07ckknightshould it be a library or a mixin?
07:06.41ckknighthrm, you do want it to be personalized to the addon...
07:08.09Wobinmaia: Would it be possible with Squishy that we get an indicator if someone dies?
07:09.03maiaWobin: indicator? doesnt it say "xy dies." in the chat?
07:09.19Wobinwell. yes it does, but -that- can easily get lost in the spam
07:09.25WobinI mean the bar on squishy
07:10.01Wobinlike have it white out, momentarily or something
07:10.17Wobinat the moment, it just disappears, and I don't know if they're dead, or if they just got uberhealed
07:11.25maiawell, but the chat says if someone dies if I remember correctly. wouldnt that only duplicate available information?
07:12.52WobinWell you could equally say Blizzard's raid frames show everyone's health, so isn't Squishy a duplication of information?
07:13.33WobinWhen I'm healing, I'm not looking at the chatframe for death messages that can scroll off in the raidspam that occurs
07:14.13WobinI'm too busy watching my heals and other's heals and everyone's health on squishy and HA et al
07:14.34maiai see
07:14.48Wobinjust having the bar do -something- aside from just disappear would help out a lot in recognition of the death
07:15.20maiawell, I guess it's easiest to use the message frame in the lower part of the Squishy frame
07:15.22WobinJust to clear up the difference between them being dead or if someone critt'd a heal at the last minute
07:15.38WobinI don't have the screen real estate to do that
07:15.55maiait has the height of a single bar?
07:16.11Wobinwhich message frame?
07:16.29maiabetween the 10th bar and the border of the squishy frame.
07:16.47maiathe footer, which has the same size as the header saying "Squishy Emergency"
07:16.56maiait can be used for messaging
07:17.21weabsquishy is just an emergency monitor?
07:17.30maiaon steroids. yes
07:17.47weabwhy do you need to know if they died for squishy's purpose then
07:18.00weabeither they died or got healed, either way, you dont have to worry about them anymore
07:18.02WobinTo shout out for a combat res
07:18.27weabi'd figure the dead person would ask for that and probably know they're dead :P
07:18.43Wobinweab: not always possible
07:19.13WobinMore to the point, with my latency (and really the latency of my guildies) it always takes a second to get anything done
07:19.32maiacombat ressing is a good argument. hmm.
07:19.50WobinI'd like to know if they're dead, I mean, even just a half second flash on the bar showing empty rather than just disappearing
07:20.13HoJ|SlaymanSo it's patchday once more
07:20.16maiaproblem is I cant think of an easy way to show bars for dead units
07:20.36maiaespecially if you want to hide that bar after a second or so
07:20.44Wobinhm
07:21.01Wobinmaybe the message then would be best
07:22.09maiawait, its patch day?
07:22.13weabyes
07:22.20weab1.11 today
07:22.34maiadid anyone test squishy on 1.11? I didnt, and I'm busy in the next 2-3 days
07:25.01FryGuyya
07:25.10FryGuyit worked on PTR last week
07:25.17FryGuywhen I was still playing wow
07:27.25maiaokay, good to know.
07:27.31maiayou quit playing wow?
07:27.40FryGuygot kicked out of my guild
07:27.47maiaeww.
07:27.48FryGuyand nothing left in wow besides naxx
07:27.50MoonWolfkick them back.
07:28.03FryGuyand no other guilds on the server are good enough for naxx
07:28.11FryGuyso.. i just quit since I don't want to reroll on another server
07:28.16maiawait for server transfers
07:28.20maiait's planned for summer.
07:28.29FryGuyeh
07:28.34FryGuyi'm interested in the naxx race
07:28.49FryGuyi won't care when it's on farm status :/
07:37.22CIA-1803wobin * r2996 10GonffBar/ (GonffBar.lua GonffBarLocals.lua): GonffBar - Updated version
07:37.32[Ammo]silly posting on WoW forums
07:37.34[Ammo]I have a morning ritual that I need to share. I call it 'the terminator'. First I crouch down in the shower in the classic 'naked terminator traveling through time' pose. With my eyes closed I crouch there for a minute, visualizing either Arnold or the guy from the second movie (not the chick in the third one because that one sucked) and I start to hum the terminator theme. Then I slowly rise to a standing position and open my eyes. It helps me to
07:37.50[Ammo]as response to Patch Tomorrow! by Eyonix
07:38.06ckknightlol
07:38.16ckknightit helps me t
07:38.21ckknightwhat's the rest
07:39.55[Ammo]oh I see all
07:40.01[Ammo]hmm
07:40.02[Ammo]moment
07:40.06[Ammo]It helps me to proceed through my day as an emotionless, cyborg badass. The only problem is if the
07:40.09[Ammo]<PROTECTED>
07:40.47weabshower curtain.
07:40.50ckknightlol.
07:40.51weabi hate those
07:41.03weabsliding door is the way to go
07:41.05Wobinbah
07:41.11WobinWe have a shower curtain
07:41.31Wobinunfortunately we don't have a bath to keep the water in
07:41.40WobinSo we're thankful for that shower curtain
07:41.56Wobineven though the curtain rod keeps falling to the ground and we have to try and put it back up all the time
07:42.16WobinCause mopping the floor is infinitely easier than having to wipe -everything- down =P
07:42.47weabdo you live in a third world country, or in the ghetto?
07:43.37WobinBeijing
07:43.50WobinWhich isn't precisely third world
07:44.00weaboh, i think i actually knew that and forgot
07:44.09weaband i was only teasing
07:44.57[Ammo]hmm
07:45.07[Ammo]anyone here fought c'thun with goood memory?
07:45.28[Ammo]is the first green beam 3 seconds after the fight starts or at the start aka first action
07:45.52[Ammo]so: combat blam green beam or combat 3 seconds green beam
08:02.07Kebinusanim back
08:08.24CIA-1803ammo * r2997 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:
08:08.24CIA-18BigWigs (C'Thun):
08:08.24CIA-18* Changed starting time for the first Dark Glare and Tentacles to 42 seconds
08:08.24CIA-18The first green beam is 3 seconds into combat, not at the start of combat.
08:10.48CIA-1803wobin * r2998 10PlowKing/ (5 files):
08:10.48CIA-18PlowKing - Fixed binding issue
08:10.48CIA-18- Fixed Junk/Empty spaces issue
08:15.15MoonWolf<PROTECTED>
08:18.24FryGuyyou know those "tech support horror stories" moonwolf?
08:18.42FryGuyafter being a tech support, they're really not that funny anymore :p
08:22.25WobinFryGuy: Yes. they just make me weep
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08:36.58Mikmaso the patch has gone live
08:37.27CIA-1803ammo * r2999 10BigWigs/Messages.lua:
08:37.27CIA-18Bigwigs:
08:37.27CIA-18* Added white toggle to the messages. It will ignore all coloring and display the messages in white if turned on.
08:37.27CIA-18The colorblind will like this.
08:37.31Kebinusango go 25k stormstrike
08:37.56Kebinusanbut but.. the bars are still colored!
08:38.02[Ammo]screw the bars!
08:38.04Kebinusanrofl
08:40.06[Ammo]I'll go and add something now :)
08:40.15[Ammo]as an incentive
08:40.33Wobinwoo
08:40.41Wobinmassive Fizzwidget update for the patch
08:40.48Wobinoh
08:40.51Wobintoc changes =P
08:41.12CIA-1803ckknight 07ckknight * r3000 10AceLibrary/AceLocale.lua:
08:41.12CIA-18AceLocale - AceLibraryBase -> AceLibraryBaseClass
08:41.12CIA-183000!
08:41.20Mikmading!
08:41.24ckknight_yes
08:41.25ckknight_ding.
08:41.42ckknight_that was a real commit, I wasn't saving it on purpose
08:41.59CIA-1803ammo * r3001 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Naxxramas/):
08:41.59CIA-18BigWigs:
08:41.59CIA-18* Added Naxxramas zone to the core and folder for bossmods, now get some modules in there!
08:42.11Wobinhehe
08:42.47[Ammo]now we wait for Shyva
08:42.59[Ammo]he made a good system for toggles inside bossmods
08:43.04[Ammo]which is Dewdrop compliant :)
08:43.15[Ammo]just needs dewdrop and optional Fu interface
08:43.35[Ammo]Shyva couldn't commit because his brother was hogging the PC :p
08:54.30Mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5016-EkBomb.html
09:02.39CIA-1803ammo * r3002 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:
09:02.39CIA-18BigWigs (C'Thun):
09:02.39CIA-18* Fixed warning for Giant Eye tentacles, first one spawns with first set of small ones in phase 2
09:05.01[Ammo]that C'thun fight is hard on the timers
09:08.19Wobinhehe
09:08.22Wobinthat's great
09:09.14Kebinusanbe nice if they actually did truely random events
09:09.33Kebinusansometime between now and 50 seconds he'll dark glare sort of thing
09:09.38[Ammo]hehe
09:10.00Kebinusanor look for the mage that just used blink and target him!
09:10.30Kebinusanoh the fun that could be had with coding boss encounters
09:11.11Kebinusanwe did find out that if c'thun dies while you're in the stomach that digestive acid seems to keep stacking on you even after you leave the stomach
09:11.31Kebinusanpoor warlock had to run back after we couldnt stop digestive acid from stacking, finally killed him at 17
09:11.47[Ammo]ugh
09:20.19Wobinarr numnumnum
09:34.49Mikmayarr!
09:35.04Mikmahaving huge backpacks + plowking = BAAAAD!
09:45.23ckknight_Guns don't kill people; husbands that come home early do.
09:46.00Gngskthere was a screenshot of someone with digestive acid stacked to 60+
09:48.12WobinMikma: An unfortunate state of affairs, to be true =)
09:49.06WobinIf you turn on debugging, you'll be able to see how many moves it tries to save =) and give you a spammy countdown =P
09:49.53MikmaWobin: not nagging or whining, just saying it's baaad ;)
09:50.04WobinYeah =)
09:50.33Mikmawhen can you Close the frames?
09:50.33WobinGiven the nature of the beast, it's something that has to happen =)
09:50.43WobinThat's why PlowKing was made
09:50.51WobinClose the frame?
09:50.58WobinBagframe?
09:51.00Mikmaand, also remember to make option to open the Default-Frames back...
09:51.14Mikmawell any frame you like, i was trying to close the "key" frame but it didn't
09:51.20Wobinoh
09:51.46WobinI'm considering making it able to 'hide' frames
09:51.48Mikmaopening the default frames from menu would be nice thing to have
09:52.08Wobingah
09:52.13ckknight_She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was room-temperature Canadian beef.
09:52.16Mikmameaning if you close your "Key" frame, then you can open it back from menu or so
09:52.20Wobinyeah
09:52.45Wobinexcept, I guess if someone 'hides' all the frames =P
09:52.58Wobinleaving no frame to grab the menu from =)
09:53.06Mikmais it on purpose, that when i press my B (binded to "open all bags") plowking opens too? (binded to shift+b)
09:53.11Wobinyes
09:53.17WobinIt's bound to OpenAllBags
09:53.21Wobinby request of Tekk
09:53.26Mikmazomg
09:53.44WobinThis was after the keybinding was put in
09:54.19Mikmawell, then it would be nice thing to be able to hide the empty frames / empty slots
09:54.34Wobinhide labels
09:54.46Wobinwill hide the empty frames
09:55.04Mikmafound in where?
09:55.28Wobinum rightclick on a label maybe
09:55.38Wobinor on a frame
09:55.54Mikmanot there, i tried with Key and Quiver
09:55.56[Ammo]FryGuy: I added Naxxramas to the core and made the folder
09:56.05[Ammo]FryGuy: how beta/unstable are your Naxx modules?
09:56.11WobinHide/Show Labes
09:56.14WobinLabels
09:56.53MikmaCreate New Category, Flatten Sections, Close Menu...
09:57.07FryGuyammo: one is just a copy/paste of huhu :p
09:57.11Wobintry clicking on a space where there isn't a bagslot
09:57.33Mikmaoooh
09:57.34Mikmabingo
09:57.41[Ammo]FryGuy: the Zone is "Naxxramas" not "Naxx"
09:57.44[Ammo]decided to use the full name
09:57.49[Ammo]but if one or more of them work
09:57.51[Ammo]feel free to commit them
09:57.54Mikmabut.. now the useful names are gone too :( *sob*
09:57.56[Ammo]so we can get some testing going
09:57.59Wobinhehe
09:58.08WobinI'll put in a 'hide empty frames'
09:58.11Mikmagoodie
09:58.27Mikmayou should make couple of keybinds
09:58.39Mikmasomething like "show all" and "show empty"
09:58.47CIA-1803ammo * r3003 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc:
09:58.47CIA-18BigWigs:
09:58.47CIA-18* Added Moam AQ20 module to the toc
09:59.04Wobinhm
09:59.14Mikmameaning if someone is grinding their asses of they can use the "show empty" to see how much space they have left without having to look the full bags
09:59.21Mikmaof=off
09:59.23Wobinhehe
09:59.31WobinThat's an idea
09:59.41WobinMaybe have ShowEmpty also show the Junk category
10:00.16FryGuyammo: the zone is "Temple of Ahn'qiraj" too
10:00.16Mikmahmm true
10:00.24FryGuyyet, it's "AQ40" :p
10:00.27Mikmaby that way you can easily delete some crap to free up space
10:00.40Mikmawithout having to browse through bags again
10:00.49WobinI wonder if I could autotrash everything in the junk cat
10:00.57Wobin(on command naturally)
10:01.19Mikmapropably yes, but there's one catch
10:01.26MikmaDarkmoon Faire items..
10:01.43Mikmathey have to be behind a switch or you'll be assraped by users
10:02.04Mikma"zomg wtf it sold my itamz"
10:02.31Mikmaoh btw, TheoryCraft seems like a nice addon
10:02.49WobinTrue..
10:02.50Mikmait names damage and heal-buttons with average damage/heal the spell does
10:03.10Wobinbut really, the users themselves can move each of the items to their very own Darkmoon Faire section )
10:03.24Mikmahaha, make a slot
10:03.39Mikma"Returnable"
10:03.40[Ammo]FryGuy: just telling you what I added to the core :)
10:04.01[Ammo]use "Naxxramas" in your modules and it should work just fine :)
10:04.11FryGuywell
10:04.22WobinWhat timing =P
10:04.22[Ammo]I can change it to Naxx if you want :p
10:04.35FryGuyMC, BWL, AQ40, AQ20, ZG.. all abbreviations less than 4 characters :p
10:04.42[Ammo]ok ok ok
10:04.43[Ammo]meh
10:04.45FryGuy4 or less :p
10:04.55FryGuymeh i don't care
10:05.05FryGuyi'm just saying be consistant :p
10:05.06[Ammo]Ashenvale and hinterlands don;t :p
10:05.20FryGuynot like i'm going to be able to update them at all
10:05.36Mikmaoh yeah you'll be getting the 1.11 on there now muah. we have 12+ hours left to play ;)
10:05.56FryGuysince I can't do naxx anymore
10:06.01[Ammo]oh ?
10:06.11[Ammo]not attuned? not in guild up to it?
10:06.18FryGuymy guild kicked me out :(
10:06.24[Ammo]ouch
10:06.27[Ammo]sigh
10:06.31Wobinlootdrama?
10:06.34Wobindramalama?
10:06.45FryGuyno
10:06.48MikmaWobin: hey.. umh...
10:06.56FryGuyGM said that i don't like healing, so i'm wasting their time
10:07.03Wobino.O
10:07.11FryGuyya doesn't make sense :/
10:07.11Mikmathe hide labels only removes the border from top, but lefts the name ontop of the frame
10:07.13Wobinyou're a ... druid?
10:07.17FryGuypries
10:07.18FryGuyt
10:07.20Wobinah
10:07.32FryGuybut.. it's not true
10:07.48WobinMikma: hm
10:08.02FryGuyand it's not like i wasn't any good
10:08.03MikmaWobin: wan't a screenshow? :)
10:08.05Mikmashot!
10:08.10Wobinyes please =)
10:08.16[Ammo]damn it sucks Fry
10:08.23Mikmaok i'll take a couple
10:08.30WobinFryGuy: You weren't... like in shadowform all the time? =P
10:08.37FryGuyno
10:08.52WobinAnd you weren't just standing around looking pretty?
10:08.55FryGuyi was disc/holy :p
10:09.02WobinMadness
10:09.26FryGuyi would smite/dot on trash because i was always in groups with like 3 ranged and another healer
10:09.30FryGuyand they'd never take damage :/
10:09.45[Ammo]silly reason
10:10.07FryGuysilly reason to do damage?
10:10.14[Ammo]no silly reason to kick you
10:10.28FryGuynobody in my groups died :/
10:10.32FryGuyi would pay attention
10:11.00FryGuywell people would die
10:11.04FryGuybut it was dumb mages pulling aggro :P
10:11.55MikmaFryGuy: well i got kicked from my previous guild by reason "whining", while i wasn't doing whining, i was being offensive ;)
10:12.15WobinMikma: It's all about semantics =)
10:12.33WobinAlthough, I'd much prefer to be booted for being offensive than whining
10:12.43WobinSince you get more satisfaction out of being offensive
10:12.58MikmaWobin: http://wow.reaktio.net/pk1.jpg , pk2.jpg , pk3.jpg .. notice the HS slot
10:13.35Mikmayeah, i didn't like to whine, doesn't suit me, i always told them to piss off or something ;)
10:13.56Mikmabut hey, they gave me 90% epic gear, doesn't matter haha
10:14.02Wobinaha
10:15.59MikmaWobin: btw, try another border.. Interface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Border that's pretty damn nice border
10:16.16WobinHm, I'll see if I can get some skins going =)
10:17.11Mikmayay, more the merrier!
10:18.00phyberyay, skins.  Bagnon style one, please ;)
10:18.17Wobinphyber: Get me the texture paths and I'll put them in
10:18.32Mikmai kinda saw that answer in my head
10:18.42Mikmabut it was something like "sure, just do me one and send it to me"
10:18.43phyberWobin: ok.
10:19.18WobinI don't mind working off custom ones either
10:19.32phyberWoWI is different today, more simple.  I like it.
10:19.42Mikmayeah i noticed too
10:19.50WobinActually, you could probably commit directly to the SVN. I'll make a textures dir
10:20.09Wobin*ahem*
10:20.25Wobins/ll make/ve made/ =P
10:21.32Mikmaanyone tested the mouselook-feature in 1.11? or is there one?
10:27.49Mikmahttp://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060619.jpg
10:27.57Mikmathis one's damn funny
10:30.59Mikma"This is SO not my fault."
10:38.59Mikmahttp://www.leasticoulddo.com/comics/strips/20060614.gif :D
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11:27.11WobinMikma: Have you seen the movie about Wheelchair Rebecca?
11:36.10MikmaWobin: hmm nope
11:36.36Wobinhttp://www.atomfilms.com/landing/landingIndex.jsp?id=atom_412&mature=accept
11:36.45Wobinnsfw
11:36.50Wobin(rrnsfw)
11:37.10WobinAlthough no -real- nudity
11:37.45Mikmagah stupid firefox doesn't play but nags about missing players... altho i have them
11:38.51MikmaWobin: btw i was walking outside and got an idea for plowking. "Smart-Open" for bags. Non-Combat will open empty slots/junk, Combat will open Potions and such, and merchant/cityzone will open all
11:39.18Mikmachrist it's hot out
11:39.42Mikma+26 celsius
11:40.10Mikmatemperature of the road: 43.7°C
11:40.43Mikmapretty soon we can start cooking eggs on the pavement
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11:41.21Mikmahiya again
11:42.36CIA-1803otravi * r3004 10oRA_RaidSay/ (oRA_RaidSay.lua oRA_RaidSay.toc oRA_RaidSay.xml):
11:42.38CIA-18oRA_RaidSay:
11:42.42CIA-18- Updated to 1.11.
11:42.44CIA-18- XML removed.
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11:49.06MikmaWobin: did you manage to see my idea for plowking?
11:49.13Wobinhm, possibly not
11:49.22MikmaWobin: btw i was walking outside and got an idea for plowking. "Smart-Open" for bags. Non-Combat will open empty slots/junk, Combat will open Potions and such, and merchant/cityzone will open all
11:49.23Wobin<Mikma> gah stupid firefox doesn't play but nags about missing players... altho i have them
11:50.02Wobinhm
11:50.19Wobinopen all can cover a lot of screen
11:50.26Wobin(for city)
11:50.44Mikmathat's sad but true
11:50.48Wobinit -should- already open for merchants
11:50.52Mikmabut so do the normal bags too
11:51.07WobinI tend not to walk around a city with my bag open though
11:51.59Wobinbut I can see a 'oncombat' or 'onloot' trigger working
11:52.28Wobiner incombat
11:53.26[Ammo]haste: shouldn't raidsay just send stuff to the raidwarning channel?
11:53.32[Ammo]and not do stuff over the ctra channel?
11:54.09wereHamsteris the flood limit per chat channel or global?
11:54.41Wobinchannel I'd say, but I don't know for certain
11:55.20wereHamsterI though that, too.. that's the reacon for the three channel types in CC
11:55.59WobinI don't really think three are necessary though
11:56.22[Ammo]3 channels for what?
11:56.27[Ammo]oh that commchannel lib
11:56.33wereHamstermaybe guild and raid are enough..
11:56.39[Ammo]there is a channel limit
11:56.50[Ammo]so one module eating 3 channel is bad, real bad, and a good reason not to use it
11:57.12wereHamsterit doesn't use all three..
11:57.40WobinIt's more the point that there are a lot of people who simply cannot afford the channels to be able to use it where the possiblity of three of them being taken up
11:57.48[Ammo]yup
11:57.50wereHamsterI mean.. if you have CTRA, damage meters and CTA you're up to three channels, too
11:57.53Wobin(if that last statement made any logical sense)
11:58.03Wobinwill CC reuse those channels?
11:58.08[Ammo]euhm just point all of them to the same channel
11:58.11[Ammo]and you're done
11:58.39wereHamsterYou mean one global channel for each faction?
11:58.43[Ammo]no
11:58.45WobinI've yet to have issues pointing all my mods to the one channel
11:58.57[Ammo]if you're in a raid etc
11:59.00[Ammo]and running damagemeters
11:59.06[Ammo]might as well use the same channel for both
11:59.12Wobinyou point it at the ctra channel
11:59.26[Ammo]it's bullshit every mod and their mother needs a new channel
11:59.51[Ammo]what we need is a proper channel lib thing that just knows about the CTRA/oRA channel and makes sure you can send stuff over that if it's available
11:59.54[Ammo]no need for fancy other stuff
12:00.03wereHamsterI'm just not a big fan of channel name broadcasts..
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12:00.50wereHamsterwhy should I depend on a raid leader broadcasting a channel name if I can reliably generate a unique channel name?
12:00.53WobinIt's kinda necessary. though, barring any formal method of working out someone elses addonlist
12:00.57[Ammo]I started on UhuruLib which does just that, detect channel for damagemeters / ctra and makes it available for other addons
12:01.18[Ammo]not finished though
12:01.20WobinNice name =)
12:01.23[Ammo]yarr
12:02.01[Ammo]the main problem is the raid is probably using CTRA so until they change their method there will always be a channel in use for that
12:02.32wereHamsterI'm all for standards.. but there is currently none..
12:02.43MoonWolfthe current standard is the ctra channel
12:02.44[Ammo]there is 1 and it's used by oRA and CTRA
12:02.57MoonWolfand that was never ment for what some people use it for.
12:02.58[Ammo]which are the only raidassist mods out there
12:03.18WobinMaybe we could suggest to Blizzard to offer us a instance specific channel
12:03.42wereHamsteror the 'hidden' flag to SendChatMessage() so we can use the normal raid channekl
12:03.52[Ammo]yeah hidden flag will work just fine
12:04.51Wobinhehe you could then code a 'QuietTime' addon which hooks the SCM and autoadds on the flag =P
12:06.43WobinPS did anyone use the OneBag++ addon?
12:06.53Wobinor InvSort I think it was
12:08.54Mikmai don't trust them anymore xD hehe i was once so stupid i sold the good rare bop mace and don't wan't to do it again
12:09.28haste_[Ammo], I don't have any info on how, and I can't run the mpq programs :<
12:10.07wereHamsterI know how I could re-route the raid/sync channel in CC to the CRTA channel.. But I have yet to find a description what CTRA broadcasts to announce a channel name.. without reading the CTRA source.. If you think it's a standard then there is not much support for the developers who want to use it..
12:10.13[Ammo]haste_: aha
12:10.21[Ammo]that would explain :))
12:10.42haste_so I did what I could
12:10.51[Ammo]wereHamster: it's the only standard currently used
12:10.58[Ammo]wereHamster: and it's one easy string...
12:11.21[Ammo]oRA_CORE_CT_CHANNEL_BROADCAST = "<CTMod> This is an automatic message sent by CT_RaidAssist. Channel changed to: "
12:11.25[Ammo]from oRA
12:11.36[Ammo]anything behind that string is the channelanme
12:15.12[Ammo]oh and that broadcast message is localized in a few languages ofcurse
12:17.01Mikmai hate RealPlayer download
12:17.16Mikmathey make people register before they can download
12:17.27wereHamsterI think such an information would be worth a sticky somewhere... preferably in the official UI forums.. as said.. for a 'standard' I don't see much support from the community..
12:19.15[Ammo]now you're being stubborn imho
12:21.29wereHamstermaybe I am..
12:32.54Mikmammm, new ebm. let's see
12:35.48Wobinebm?
12:36.48Mikmahttp://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html -> Trance -> EBM (in the red area)
12:39.28phyberrename it if you don't like it :)
12:40.04haste_I usually do
12:40.15haste_but I patched to 1.10 now
12:41.01MikmaPsychedelic Trance removes the hindu/middle-eastern influences and melodies and full-on blasts you with mindfuck music.
12:41.04Mikmahehehee
12:41.17Mikmathese texts in that address are quite good
12:42.09MikmaGoa Trance description: Imported from India, duty free, where it is so hot the DJs don't even bother mixing or else their faces melt off (and that's BEFORE you drop acid).
12:42.31phybercool change.  it's annoying when you can't watch the fight.
12:42.49[Ammo]and annoying for the insignia's in AQ40
12:42.53MikmaGoa would be the best genre ever, if it weren't for the fucking hippies. xD
12:45.20CIA-1803otravi 07otravi * r3005 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Added support for MobHealth2.
12:45.40Mikmahey btw, where's the universal scale nero was making?
12:48.14CIA-1803otravi 07otravi * r3006 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - It will also hide the mobhealth text frame.
12:50.30Wobinhehe this is a great site
12:52.22MikmaWobin: the descriptions rock, don't they? :)
12:52.29Wobinthey're brilliant
12:53.37Wobinhehe Tubular Bells =)
12:53.52Wobinoh god
12:53.54Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1564.0.html
12:53.55WobinPhilip Glass =P
12:53.58Industrialomfgizzle
12:54.30Industrialdat is juzt schweet
12:55.46Mikmahumdidum
12:56.01Wobinhehe german trance
12:56.02Mikmatoo bad it's not real
12:57.02Industrialuhuh
12:57.20WobinI'm impressed at the work gone into this
12:57.52Mikmathe picture or the site
12:58.09Industrialsomeone knows photoshop
12:58.10Industrial:-)
12:58.19Industrialtoo bad I dont :(
12:58.56Wobinsite =P
12:59.26Mikmait's funny how you can spend hours on reading the descriptions and listening the samples
13:03.45Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1564.new#new
13:03.50Industrialmade a reply ^^
13:04.04Industrialyay karma -10!
13:04.08Industrialwewt
13:04.40Mikmai'll smite you!
13:05.07Mikmahehe joking
13:05.14Mikmai hate that kind of "votes"
13:05.18Industrialyep
13:05.26IndustrialDoesnt work with users
13:05.27Industrial:P
13:07.08Wobin~60*60/100
13:07.11purl36
13:07.40phyberanyone who can get to 4chan right now that can paste (or mayeb you already have it) the O_O kind of text that's a face.   the one that got photoshopped onto delay close a few times now.
13:07.45phyber</shitty description>
13:08.14phyberoh, and Opera 9 is out if anyone cares :)
13:09.17Industrial:o
13:12.10phyberhmm, maybe I can browse 4chan through links and find the text :)
13:12.14Mikmai must admit that the fubar-xp idea is nice tho on that picture
13:13.48phybermaybe I'll try to dominate the fubar border with one later.
13:14.46Mikmathat would be nice
13:19.10WobinI -do- like that xp bar
13:19.15Wobinit's very snazzy
13:21.20haste_>http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/addons/xp/WoWScrnShot_061706_111926.png << I like my XP solution :p
13:22.39Mikmait's a funyn thing that the frames are centered on your pictures :P
13:22.42[Ammo]upgrade your perfectraidtargets haste :p
13:23.58Mikmahaste_: have you seen the default layout i get when i pop oUF with fresh character
13:24.12haste_Mikma, yes, and honestyl I can't be arsed to fix it :p
13:24.27haste_I would rather have the default layout just be every frame in a bunch in the middle
13:24.46Mikmathat's a start too
13:25.08Mikmaalso remember to make a huge huge popup window saying "move teh frames u nub"
13:25.14Industrialhaste_: Whats that Xp thingy?
13:26.04phyberweee.   found the thing.
13:26.08phyber._.
13:26.35Mikmayeah, it's in pants for most men ;)
13:26.36Wobin>_<
13:27.01WobinActually, that xp bar shouldn't be too hard to write...
13:27.19Mikmado it do it woohoohoo!
13:27.34Mikma(that's from little nicky)
13:27.41haste_Industrial, my little "cba to have a large bar on my screen telling me visually how much into the level I am"
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13:30.35Industrialgief
13:30.36Industrial:D
13:33.32haste_I can see if I can upload it later on
13:34.33Industrialthanks
13:34.54IndustrialMeh you can pastebin it if you want
13:35.08IndustrialPandora radio is really cool
13:35.28Industrialits way better ar deciding what music is nice then last.fm
13:35.41Industrial<3 the pandora opera widget
13:36.16Mikmawww.philosomatika.com
13:40.14haste_Industrial, I would, but my computer is currently overheating quite a lot :<
13:40.42haste_Mikma, the current song is very strange
13:40.54Mikmayeah it is, i'm listening it too now
13:41.05Mikmabut.. Get your stomp on!
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13:41.31haste_wrong key :<
13:42.16Industrialhaste_: k
14:02.20Wobinbah
14:02.32WobinWhy do I always get the urge to write something when the servers are down
14:03.22Mikmabecause then you can't play and you feel like coding
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14:03.32Mikmai myself do have the same thing
14:03.49Mikma"ooooh now i figured out why my addon doesn't work! .. oh wait servers are down"
14:09.40phyberit helps to have your own server for that exact reason.
14:10.03Mikmaoh boy i wish
14:10.34phyberi have one.  it's fun for exploring too.
14:11.01phyberalthough, for some reason, spawning enemies doesn't work right.  they are always dead when i spawn them
14:11.14phyberI wanted to own ragnaros with my ashbringer and level 1478 warrior ;)
14:11.24Mikmahahah
14:11.42phyberwell, they are dead, but still move about.  so it was just ragnaros mallet chasing me.
14:12.07phyberfunny stuff :)
14:12.16Mikmasounds like it
14:12.46Mikmabut doesn't that require alot of cpu power to run own server
14:13.11phybernot really.
14:14.37Mikmai happen to have extra 700MHz pc there, maybe i should do the same and screw around :P
14:14.55phyberI run it on a dual 900Mhz p3, 1GB RAM, slackware linux
14:15.01phyberit doesn't use all of that.
14:15.06phyberI also have my UT2004 server on there.
14:15.27Mikmahmm
14:15.32Mikmaso it runs on linux?
14:15.43phyberbut it's only for me, so it's not like hundreds of people running around in there.
14:15.56phybermaybe it would be different then
14:15.56Mikmayeah
14:16.20phyberin it's current idle state, it's using 180MB of RAM.
14:16.29phyberwhich is just the database stuff.
14:16.37phyberonly active maps get loaded into memory, which is quite nice.
14:16.43phyberif they are inactive for a while, it unloads them
14:16.52phyberdatabase is stored in mysql :)
14:17.01phyberit's an open source wow server :)
14:17.38WobinCan I log in? =)
14:17.44WobinAnd test stuff? =)
14:18.52Mikmaphyber: about connecting. do you need to use dns to replace blizzards address' to your own or do you use some program to change the address where game connects?
14:18.57Mikmaor, is it stored somewhere
14:19.34phyberWobin: if you wanted to. I can create an account.
14:19.47WobinWoo that'd be very cool =)
14:19.50phyberMikma: you just change the IP address in realmlist.wtf
14:19.53phyberno patching the client
14:19.56WobinWhat 'patch' is it up to?
14:20.02phyber1.10.2
14:20.07phyberalways uses the latest version :)
14:20.10Wobinwow
14:20.36phybersome stuff doesn't work, like, at the moment if you speak to a vendor, you will crash the world server ;)
14:20.41phyberbut I didn't svn up for a few days :)
14:21.07Wobinmeh, I only need it for short term testing =)
14:21.50phyberI have a copy of my wow installation as WoWPrivate.  just so they don't step on each other by changing that file each time.  not that they should.
14:22.33Mikmahttp://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2020/banned4kx.png
14:23.08phyberouch, banned account.  I'd hate that to happen :(
14:23.43Mikmayeah, but that's what the guy deserved..
14:23.57Mikmaused 3rd party programs to float around
14:24.00Mikmaand teleport..
14:24.31phyberI didn't know priests could levitate until last week.  I saw one running across the water and thought it was hax.
14:24.55Mikmahttp://www.kickassapps.com/wowmap/
14:25.10Mikmaphyber: water walking > levitate :P
14:25.30phyberwho has Water Walking?
14:25.40MikmaShaman
14:26.02Mikmashaman can cast it on others
14:26.17Mikmaand atleast some time ago they could run across waters with mounts
14:26.31phybercool
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14:32.36Mikmahttp://www.markeedragon.com/screenshots/data/3019/2fairecannonmap.avi
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14:32.43Mikmai might consider that as a cheat
14:32.47AmadeoDon't cheat!
14:33.33MikmaAmadeo: i won't but this program does.. http://www.kickassapps.com/wowmap/
14:34.03Mikmayou can see almost all with that program, chests, flowers, mobs, players...
14:34.25phyberI remember programs like that for UO.
14:35.05Amadeowow, it's right there in the open?
14:35.31Amadeothat's definately cheating
14:36.20Amadeo1.11 is out, woohoo
14:36.27Tainhaha yeah they've been watching WoWGlider forever, people are constantly getting banned.
14:36.30Amadeoanyone have a mirror?
14:36.45AmadeoWhat's WoWGlider?
14:37.10TainThey host the Kickass maps thing forums.
14:37.16Amadeohah
14:37.24Amadeooh by the way, I meant mirror for the 1.11 patch :P
14:37.36Mikmawowglider is bot i believe
14:37.41TainYeah it is.
14:38.56AmadeoI heard that Blizzard accidentally banned a lot of peoples guild banks when banning gold farmers
14:39.02AmadeoI wonder if it's true or not
14:39.09Mikmamight be true
14:39.25AmadeoI know some guild banks have a ton of gold
14:39.29TainNever know.  But I've rarely heard someone get banned who didn't claim innocense.
14:39.43AmadeoMy old guild from Aggramar brought 50,000 gold to Test once
14:39.46AmadeoTain: hahaha, so true
14:40.13AmadeoEvery banned person, even the botters, seem to claim innocense
14:48.44AmadeoI like how they promote these cheats
14:54.13Industrialme2
14:54.19Industrialcause its legal
14:54.20Industrial:P
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15:01.03mjcit is true, amadeo
15:01.27mjcthey banned two of the guild banks for the top two guilds on Magtheridon :p
15:01.51mjcdidn't ban me though ;P
15:01.52TainWhich doesn't mean that they weren't gold sellers!
15:02.13mjcthey got their accounts back on friday
15:06.15Mikmawith the gold or without
15:07.04phyberI don't like the whole banned for gold farming thing.  I often wonder how much gold I'm allowed before blizzard ban me for no reason.
15:07.31Mikmahottest rogue ever: http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=805849649l9oy.jpg
15:07.33phyberI have about 1,500G now on my main character.  I don't farm, I just don't spend much gold is all.
15:07.36Mikmaseems like mace-spececd
15:07.42mjcphyber: 10,000 gold in a monthish
15:07.53phyberah, that much is a silly amount. :)
15:09.35Mikmalol... "TRading Glider Key For EU time card."
15:09.42Mikma"Trading WOW Account for Glider Key"
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15:09.58mjcheh
15:10.10WobinDid you notice the new T&C?
15:10.12mjcmerc is a friend of mine
15:10.13Mikma"i will trade 2 wow guest pass keys whit a wow glider key.. "
15:10.17WobinIt's a lot more legalistic now
15:10.27phyberWobin: 1.11 live in the US now?
15:10.40steinoyes
15:10.41steino!
15:10.44mjcyeah, it is.
15:10.47phybernice
15:10.54mjcno servers up yet though :P
15:11.19phyberd'oh :)
15:12.31phyberis the scourge invasion a limited time thing like opening the AQ gates, or will it just happen forever, moving around various zones once in a while?
15:13.06Shyvathe event stops after 2 weeks iirc
15:13.38phyberaww.  oh well, will be fun for a while :)
15:13.42Wobin"http://www.kickassapps.com/wowmap/"
15:13.45Wobiner
15:13.52Wobinbag
15:13.54Wobinbah
15:13.57Wobincan't cp/ps
15:13.57TainWobin stop the hacks!
15:14.15mjckickassmap needs a bit of work before it's really useful
15:14.27phyberthere are some great buffs in this patch! (reading patch notes)
15:14.28phyber<PROTECTED>
15:14.29phyberLow level boars/wolves drop boar meat and wolf meat much more frequently now to facilitate cooking
15:14.33phyberawesome ;)
15:14.38mjclol
15:14.40Tainkickassmap will just get more people banned.
15:14.45Wobindamn
15:14.54mjcTain: there hasn't been one reported banning for it yet
15:14.54Wobinthe group pulls before Drakkisath are now properly linked
15:15.04mjcWobin: fuck!
15:15.06TainYet. :)
15:15.15mjcTain: it's been around for a long ass time
15:15.16Wobinphyber: Yeah... all those recipes with no meat =P
15:15.26Industrialparadise lost - in all honesty
15:15.43mjcTain: glider hasn't got anyone smart banned either
15:15.50Wobinwoohoo
15:16.00WobinRange for ress is the same whether the target has released or not
15:17.10Tainmjc I know all about glider, and yes people do get banned for being stupid.  But it's still just a matter of playing the odds.
15:17.18MoonWolfwhat is glider ?
15:17.23TainA wow bot.
15:17.29WobinIt's a 3rdparty botting prgram
15:17.39MoonWolfThey should get banned.
15:17.43Wobinhave a look at wwww.wowglide.com I think it is
15:17.47mjcwowglider.com
15:17.51TainAnd a pretty crappy one. :)
15:18.03mjccrappy? it's better than all the others :p
15:18.08TainNow WoWSharp!  That was a bot system!
15:18.34mjcyeah, except everyone that used wow!sharp for any length of time got banned
15:18.56mjcglider's getting better, it doesn't need macros anymore, or chat/combat logs
15:18.57TainOf course they did.  
15:19.17mjcand he's working on an auto-repair feature
15:19.33TainThat's all any bots are, a temporary cheat you can use until you get banned.  The length of time just varies depending on the person, and how you use it.
15:19.59Mikmahttp://www.gamerking.com/index.php?openg=73&id=380 WOHOO!
15:20.20Mikmahurry everyone! empty your visa and order some WoW gold!!!11oneone
15:20.36mjcglider is a far better source of gold than buying it, haha
15:20.44phyberCan I pay my mortgate with WoW gold?
15:20.55haste_1.11 Interface version is 11100 right?
15:21.05MoonWolfBlizzard might be artificially keeping glider around so the kiddies dont find something more advanced.
15:21.36mjcMoonWolf: merc is just good enough to keep it from getting detected by their automated stuff
15:21.55mjcas long as a human doesn't see you doing something suspicious, you're fine
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15:22.05MoonWolfMerc ?
15:22.11mjcmercury
15:22.14mjcits creator
15:22.19MoonWolfAHA
15:23.32IndustrialTheres another cheat
15:23.33Industrial:-)
15:23.38TainThere's plenty of them.
15:24.09TainIf someone really wants to use them they're not hard to find.
15:24.15MikmaI got the best cheat available...
15:24.18MoonWolfwowemu and the likes are way more interesting then hacks anyway.
15:24.20TainAs long as you don't mind losing your account.
15:24.23Mikmahaven't used it much but i'm planning on
15:24.25phyber<PROTECTED>
15:24.27phyberSetCursor() can now be passed a 32x32 texture filename, as well as a cursor mode, or nil to reset the cursor.
15:24.33phyberso, we'll see Cursor skinning packs?
15:24.34Mikmait's Called "life" and it starts when i close this laptop
15:24.36TainYeah phyber!
15:24.48mjcphyber: yep
15:24.51phybercool
15:25.26MoonWolfaina!
15:25.42Mikmanp: http://www.philosomatika.com :)
15:25.53CIA-1803otravi 07otravi * r3007 10otravi_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 6 dirs): oUF2 - Updated all TOCs to 1.11
15:25.57Mikmabeen listening to it for 1h47min now
15:26.50mjcmeh
15:27.02IndustrialYour doom is nigh though you see it not, our forces ride and your hope will rot!
15:27.06mjcI never really liked oUF
15:27.31mjcI like archud but it doesn't hide the party frame and I'm far too lazy today to do anything about it :p
15:27.44IndustrialScream and run, run and fall. Fall and burn, burn and die. Die and rot, rot in hell! damn you all!
15:28.03MoonWolfthat sounds a lot better if you hear it said .
15:28.09Industrialyeah
15:28.13MikmaIndustrial: damz you too!11
15:28.20IndustrialMikma: ;D
15:28.36Mikmaoooh!
15:28.52MikmaSesto Sento - Cookie Stealer (GMS remix) now on philo
15:28.53mjcperfectraid is really nice too. again too lazy to set it up in party mode instead of raid mode :P
15:29.10Industrialmjc: make your own
15:29.11Industrial:D
15:29.50mjcIndustrial: I rather like the archud and PR interfaces, just I'm too lazy to fix the things I do't like about them right now
15:30.10Industrialits fun to learn
15:30.10Industrial:P
15:30.54phyber"The interface event processing has been optimized while zoning."  Does that mean we can stop puting the PLAYER_<wibble>_WORLD stuff in our addons now?
15:31.01mjcIndustrial: I've got enough experience with LUA programming in WoW to want to stab blizzard in the face:D
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15:31.17Mikmaphyber: yeah i think they fixed it
15:31.22mjcphyber:  believe so
15:31.58wereHamsterno more PEW while zoning?
15:33.11Tekkubwhat? busy....
15:33.17mjcfucking annoying that every time i disconnect my bluetooth mouse i have to reset the dashboard and expose shortcuts =(
15:33.44Mikmalol
15:33.57mjcwrote an applescript to do it for me though :P
15:34.01Mikmasomething nasty is going on with your osx
15:34.20mjcMikma: fresh install does it too
15:35.01mjcnaxxramas is still pretty much pointless btw
15:35.23mjcmy guild on mug'thol got on the test server and had a GM handing out free repairs and flasks and stuff
15:35.50mjcfull BWL gear on basically everyone... tanks had 10kish hp and they all get oneshotted
15:36.21Mikmaneat
15:36.34mjcfrustrating
15:36.36Ratbert_CPTekkub: I was wondering if there was an element category that contained the profession "weapons".  i.e., Fishing Pole is a subclass of weapon, but a player doesn't have the "Fishing Pole" skill...
15:37.12Ratbert_CPObviously, I can create my own element category, but if you or your minions had already done the legwork... :)(
15:37.17CIA-1803otravi 07otravi * r3008 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua:
15:37.17CIA-18oUF2:
15:37.17CIA-18- Coloring of debuffs on the party frames. Most likely 1.11 only.
15:37.17CIA-18- Ability to only show dispellable debuffs (Interface Options).
15:37.22Ratbert_CPs/)(/)/
15:37.39Mikmahaste_: I love you!
15:38.13haste_Test if it works btw :p
15:38.16gnorlishi forgot where i read a post about how high-end raiding is progressing
15:38.24Mikmahaste_: i'm on it
15:38.25mjccrappily
15:38.38gnorlishbut the guy made a good point when he said that all that's really happening is that timing has to be more and more precise
15:38.49gnorlishb/c bosses simply hit harder and faster
15:40.44mjc'temporary item buffs will persist through zoning or logging out' finally fuckin a
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15:40.50mjcpoisons won't be wasted anymore woot
15:41.18gnorlishi'll believe that when windfury holds
15:41.22gnorlishi didn't get to check on test
15:41.34gnorlishalong with my 2h axe/mace skill staying 300
15:41.47mjcit held
15:42.07Ratbert_CPbouncing to circumvent firewall...
15:42.23mjcchain targetted spells don't affect stealth yay
15:43.28Amadeowhere are the patch notes? main page?
15:43.30mjcI like that PoM stays when you use AE
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15:43.40mjcAmadeo: they show up while thepatch is applying :P
15:44.07Amadeooh, I'm not that far yet :P
15:44.20mjcuse a torrent client to download the patch
15:44.25mjcinstead of blizzard's retarded shit
15:44.32AmadeoI don't have the torrent for it
15:44.41mjcit's inside the patcher
15:44.47mjcwowtorrentex if you're on windows
15:44.53Amadeothanks :)
15:44.55mjcor just get the torrent from inside the .app if you're on a mac
15:45.03TainHowever if you use the patcher you can save yourself some time because some files were preloaded.
15:45.13MikmaWobin: after using /script PlowKingDB = nil and /rl the windows seem to align nicely on my screen, even with big backpacks
15:45.26AmadeoTain: I turned that off :(
15:45.32TainI flew to 83% before it even slowed down to start downloading.
15:45.34mjcTain: you just point it at the wow-patch folder
15:45.41TainAnd was finished in 15 minutes or so.
15:45.42mjcthe torrent client
15:45.46Industrial\m/ >_< \m/
15:46.47AmadeoMy Warrior is finally getting decent gear
15:46.52AmadeoI notice I have better +stats than some 60's
15:47.01mjctorrent client snagged the whole thing at 800K/s for me, where blizz's downloader didn't even start
15:47.04MoonWolfwarriors are very much a gear class
15:47.32TainAll meleers are.
15:47.40AmadeoMoonWolf: Yeah, my next goal is the damn Ice Barbed Spear, but Alliance never f'ing wins AV on Akama
15:47.41WobinMikma: You can use 'flatten' to simulate that for existing windows
15:47.55mjcToU hasn't changed since june 05
15:48.08mjcAmadeo: you don't hav eto win to get it anymore
15:48.08AmadeoTain: You can get by easier on other melee classes, I believe
15:48.12MikmaWobin: ok so that's what's it for
15:48.15NeronixAh, patch day
15:48.17Amadeomjc: Huh? What do you mean?
15:48.25mjcAmadeo: you just have to complete a battle
15:48.39AmadeoI think you have to kill the general
15:48.47AmadeoI've completed them but it hasn't gotten me anywhere
15:49.03TainI dunno Amadeo, well actually yeah you have more options with other melee classses.  If you're losing a fight as a Paladin or Rogue you can do other things.  As a Warrior you better be equipped enough to win the fight or you're done.
15:49.26AmadeoTain: I just mean because certain abilities like Eviscerate aren't based on weapon damage and such
15:49.27TainSo I have changed my stance on the point!
15:49.54AmadeoExecute is the same way, but I can't do that much :(
15:49.54mjcpallies have bubblehearth regardless of gear :D
15:49.59Amadeohaha
15:50.02Mikmaand i must repeat, TheoryCraft looks nice, it can label the damage/heal buttons with the average damage/heal they do
15:50.26MoonWolfBubblehearth is a myth
15:50.34MoonWolfi have yet to see one actually do that .
15:50.39Amadeoseriously?
15:50.50NeronixI did
15:50.57Mikmai once made an addon to do the same, indie might remember it :)
15:50.57Neronixonly once though :P
15:51.06Industrialno :<
15:51.23Mikmano? you tried to code a better version of it too
15:51.37Industrialwhat kinda of
15:51.42MikmaButtonNamer
15:51.54Industrialdinnae :S
15:51.58MoonWolfwb cair
15:52.03MoonWolfwowi is doing good so far.
15:52.15Mikmajust a sec i'll paste url when i find it
15:52.20Mikmahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3457-1-buttonnamer-02.html
15:52.54Amadeohere's a pic from a LONG time ago
15:52.58Amadeohttp://zenon.kills.us/joriusloses.jpg
15:53.03Amadeoit's no myth!
15:53.30IndustrialMikma: i really cant remember wanting to redo that
15:54.03Mikmayeah you did but you weren't playing wow back then
15:54.22Mikmaso nobody tested it and i let it go
15:54.33mjcMikma: I like that
15:54.35mjcace it
15:54.35mjc:P
15:54.36MoonWolfIndustrial, can you write a plugin for abinfo for Idactionbuttons ?
15:54.57Mikmamjc: sorry it was way too complicated to me either without ace :D
15:55.05Industriali use RedRange and omniCC
15:55.06Industrial:X
15:55.18MoonWolfbut i dont get spell uses with that do i ?
15:55.32Industrialthey are normal action buttons
15:55.34Industrialshould work
15:55.47mjcMikma: commit it to ace svn at least, let someone else do the work :D
15:56.16Mikmamjc: well sure, i can do that but i still don't think anyone else than you and me would be interested :) just a sec
15:56.34Amadeomjc: Are you sure of the Ice Barbed Spear thing?
15:57.00mjcAmadeo: my hunter got it without having won an AV, I don't know if the general was killed, it was right after 1.10
15:57.15mjcif your faction loses, just lead the raids
15:57.17mjcsimple
15:57.38Amadeobut if the general is killed, you win!
15:58.13AmadeoOpera 9.0 is out
16:00.42AmadeoI love Opera, but it has problems with a lot of sites :(
16:03.10Amadeoif it had better compatibility, I can't imagine anyone would use another browser
16:03.39hyperChipmunknewwwwwwwwwww arrmoooooooooorz
16:03.52Amadeohaha
16:03.56hyperChipmunkdude
16:03.58Amadeoyeah, time to rerank for me
16:04.21hyperChipmunkthe new pvp update is going to increase my TOTAL agi by 24%, int by 23%, armor by 21%
16:04.34hyperChipmunktwo more % crit, one more % hit
16:04.37Amadeoyeah, and you don't even have to do anything!
16:04.45mjchyperChipmunk: paladin?
16:04.50hyperChipmunkhunter
16:04.52mjcah
16:04.54mjcmeh
16:04.59hyperChipmunkthat's my TOTAL stats
16:05.02hyperChipmunkincluding all my other gear
16:05.09hyperChipmunkI'm getting 98 agi O_o
16:05.34hyperChipmunkabout 700 armor
16:05.39hyperChipmunkand like 50 int
16:05.52Amadeohow much stamina?
16:06.11mjchunters don't give a shit about stam
16:06.14hyperChipmunklike 10, but the set was already disgustingly sta-heavy
16:06.16hyperChipmunkI do
16:06.20hyperChipmunksurvival hunter
16:06.23Amadeoeveryone gives a shit about Stamina!
16:06.34CIA-1803tekkub * r3009 10PatchTorrents/ (. WoW.1.10.2.5302-to-1.11.0.5428-enUS.torrent):
16:06.34CIA-18Patch Torrents
16:06.34CIA-18- Added 1.10.2.5302 to 1.11.0.5428 enUS patch, because blizzard's download is a pain in the ass
16:06.38TekkubENJOY!
16:06.42Amadeo:D
16:07.03hyperChipmunkthe 6 pieces of the pvp armor set had like 20 more sta than the 8 pieces of the tier 2 set, to begin with
16:07.03MoonWolfgreat
16:07.13*** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252)
16:07.14*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ
16:07.18CIA-1803otravi 07otravi * r3010 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Fixed the MobHealth2 support.
16:07.44NeronixWhat was broke? O.o
16:07.54hyperChipmunkif there was no data
16:07.58hyperChipmunkit displayed as 0/0
16:08.05NeronixAh, I didn't mind that
16:08.14NeronixThough my implementation had a check for it :P
16:08.19Temhaste_, did you fix oRA yet?
16:08.38hyperChipmunkI had that in my implementation, but I think I forgot to put it in the pastebin i posted =P
16:09.07hyperChipmunkeither that or he just ignored it =)
16:09.23CIA-1803mikma * r3011 10ButtonNamer/: ButtonNamer: Initial Import, open for development
16:09.28mjcyay.
16:09.32Ratbert_CPHmmm...  Bad Torrents!?!
16:09.34Ratbert_CP[2006-06-20 09:08:24] "wow-patch" : bad data from tracker - not a valid bencoded string
16:09.35Ratbert_CP[2006-06-20 09:09:24] "wow-patch" : bad data from tracker - not a valid bencoded string
16:09.35Ratbert_CP[2006-06-20 09:11:15] (global message) : This is not a valid torrent file. (invalid bencoded value (data after valid prefix))
16:09.35Ratbert_CP[2006-06-20 09:11:23] (global message) : This is not a valid torrent file. (invalid bencoded value (data after valid prefix))
16:09.51hyperChipmunkO_o
16:09.54hyperChipmunkhoho denied
16:09.55NeronixMust be something SVN did to it O.o
16:09.58Mikmamjc: uploading files soon
16:10.04haste_Tem, I'm unable to patch to 1.11 PTR
16:10.14Ratbert_CPFirst two errors were from the wowtorrentex2 extraction
16:10.19haste_and I'm unable to extract the 1.11 PTR MPQs
16:10.36Ratbert_CPThe last two were from SVN
16:10.41Temwell, patch today
16:10.45Temso eeuh
16:10.49mjcRatbert_CP: wowtorrentex2 worked for me
16:10.54TemI raid at 8
16:10.56haste_Tem, I play EU so
16:11.03Tem<PROTECTED>
16:11.06hyperChipmunki just finished patching wee
16:11.07haste_I can't do shit before tomorrow
16:11.10haste_and then I start working also :p
16:11.28hyperChipmunknow only 2 more hours of weeping at the login
16:11.30Temso, what you're saying is I'm boned?
16:11.38mjchaste_: you can use my spare account on .us
16:11.49hyperChipmunkTem: what's wrong with it?
16:11.51NeronixOo, who got rev 3k?
16:11.53Ratbert_CPWait a second...  Does BitTorrent get pissy if you already have a partial D/L from the Blizz "tool"?
16:11.54haste_nah, updated the raidsay at least
16:12.05TemhyperChipmunk, well, they changed the ready check stuff
16:12.09Temand blizzard's version sucks
16:12.09hyperChipmunkah
16:12.57mjcRatbert_CP: no
16:13.08mjchaste_: do you have the US version available?
16:13.10CIA-1803mikma * r3012 10ButtonNamer/ButtonNamer.lua: Bartender: 0.2 Version, works for default ActionBars. Does not work properly when swapping Bars.
16:13.18haste_mjc, no, I don't
16:13.27Mikmawhatta...
16:13.42mjchaste_: sec, I can provide a private torrent ;D
16:13.47Mikmawhy in the hell it only committed that one when i selected and added all
16:14.01hyperChipmunkbecause you didn't change the others?
16:14.15TainI'm so happy they increased the stack sizes to 20 for a bunch of things.
16:14.18MikmahyperChipmunk: they are all new files
16:14.53CIA-1803mikma * r3013 10ButtonNamer/ (ButtonNamer.toc ButtonNamer.xml): Bartender: trying to add rest of the files ^^
16:15.57Mikmathere, all 3 files added :P have fun testing mjc
16:16.08Ratbert_CPmjc: Is there a better torrent app than BitTorrent.com's?
16:16.15TainuTorrent!
16:16.15mjcRatbert_CP: fuck yes
16:16.17mjcuTorrent
16:16.20mjcazureus
16:16.25Ratbert_CP:)
16:16.26mjcthere are a lot of them
16:16.27ShyvauTorrent is the best there is! :-D
16:16.28haste_uTorrent for windows indeed
16:16.30TainIf you're on Windows use uTorrent.
16:16.35Ratbert_CPMaybe that's the problem...
16:16.49mjcRatbert_CP: redownload the downloader exe first
16:17.16Ratbert_CPHuh?
16:17.19NeronixRatbert_CP: Never, ever, ever use BT.com's
16:17.23mjcthe wow downloader thing
16:17.29mjcit sounds like it was corrupted
16:17.35Ratbert_CPOK...
16:17.38Neronixit's sucky and iirc, doesn't try to support protocol extensions
16:17.45NeronixAnd Bram Cohen's a sellout
16:17.58MoonWolfOfcourse he is
16:18.03hyperChipmunktell us how you really feel
16:18.08MoonWolfi would be to if i invent the new internet protocol of this age.
16:18.48hyperChipmunkcan someone pastebin the Patch.txt from the wowtest directory for me?
16:19.03TainYeah really, you can call me a sellout all you want on my way to the bank.
16:19.21MoonWolftain, my point exactly
16:19.31*** join/#wowace ariose (n=waffle@ppp-70-247-190-157.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net)
16:20.09hyperChipmunkanybodyanybody?
16:20.15ariosewhat's the location of aceheal? i don't see it in my repos. browser looking at http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk
16:20.25NeronixWell, he could've sold out in a good way, but now he speaks for Hollywood and isn't too interested in working with the community
16:20.29mjcI don't think it's in the svn
16:20.41NeronixhyperChipmunk: I just deleted mine :(
16:20.44MoonWolfcan someone pass me the executable for downloading the patch ?
16:20.53mjcMoonWolf: you can't run the program?
16:20.55MoonWolfill see if i can extract the torrent for you.
16:20.59MoonWolfeurope.
16:21.02mjcah
16:21.07mjcI have the .torrent
16:21.11mjclet me put it on my website
16:21.11MoonWolfnevermind then.
16:21.25MoonWolfi thought tekkubs torrent was corrupt or something.
16:21.38hyperChipmunkno, just tekkub
16:21.44MoonWolfso i wanted to help a bit.
16:21.48Wobinariose: It should be there...
16:21.55Kebinusanaceheal is in branch I think
16:22.27MoonWolfnot to mention dll's , direct x en all that good stuff
16:22.32MoonWolfdont tell to many people though.
16:22.43arioseah. yes. it is in /branches
16:23.07mjc325i.org/wow
16:23.07Wobinah yes there it is
16:23.13WobinI'd already switched =)
16:23.17mjchttp://325i.org/wow even
16:23.46Tekkubthe torrent works for me...
16:24.04Tekkubgranted it's only .1% done tho... hrm...
16:24.08MoonWolfmaybe the svn fucked it up ?
16:24.10mjchaste_: 10 minutes on having a private US torrent for you :P
16:24.16Tekkub1 seed, 413 peers
16:24.17MoonWolfalthough it should not do that
16:24.20haste_;O
16:24.21Ratbert_CPuTorrent seems to be taking the torrent...
16:24.21mjcTekkub:  I went to 100% on mine
16:24.27mjcusing utorrent
16:24.32MoonWolfutorrent = love.
16:25.15Tekkubyea utorrent grabbed it fine, but it only sees one seed
16:25.18haste_I miss uTorrent :(
16:25.21CodayusHm
16:25.25mjcI have a couple hundred, tek
16:25.28CodayusHey, anyone got an actual torrent for the patch?
16:25.30Tekkubmaybe THAT is why blizzy's downloader sucks...
16:25.35mjcCodayus: http://325i.org/wow
16:25.52mjcTekkub: upnp = win
16:26.03Tainhehe I always have great luck with the Blizzard downloader.
16:26.14TainOf course that doesn't mean I always use it.
16:26.21TainBut when I do!  It works fine for me.
16:26.44Tekkubmjc, I have a dedicated torrent box
16:26.45CodayusI hate it.  :-)
16:26.47MoonWolfblizzard has a great patching system anyway
16:26.47mjcblizz's downloader is almost exactly the same as the bittorrent.com one
16:26.50Tekkubno need for UPnP
16:26.50mjcTekkub: ah
16:26.53MoonWolfno download 888000 patches
16:27.03MoonWolfand applying them one by one when you reisntall.
16:27.11TainYeah that's always fun with games.
16:27.21mjcMoonWolf: to go from 1.0.0 to 1.10.2 I had to apply like fourish
16:27.23Tekkubblizzy's downloader used to work fine for me, now it hates me, nothing has changed on my network
16:27.25mjcwas a pain
16:28.00MoonWolfmjc, try eeuh most other MMO's out there
16:28.03MoonWolfand i think it was 3
16:28.09mjcMoonWolf: I don't play other MMOs.
16:28.13mjcand I probably won't
16:28.23MoonWolfone 1.00 to 1.10 one 1.10 to 1.10.1 and one 1.10.1 to 1.10.2
16:28.25TekkubFFXI's patcher always ran fine
16:28.27mjctoo much of a time investment, WoW rewards much better
16:28.46Mikmamm, maybe i should later combine ButtonNamer and Bartender + make it use DewdropLib
16:28.50MoonWolfI played some lineage 2 on a pricate server that was bad.
16:28.53mjcMikma: yes!
16:28.59MoonWolfand ragnarok online :O :(
16:29.07NeronixI played RO private servers
16:29.25mjcevery MMO except wow that I know anyone that played put an immense amount of work into something that gave shitty rewards
16:29.39NeronixThe decent ones were run an order of magnitude better than Gravity evenr hoped to
16:29.40MoonWolfI would not play RO on a normal server if they payed me to do it.
16:29.44mjcblizz has the upgrade system right
16:29.46Neronixs/evenr/ever
16:29.58NeronixI even helped rune one at one time
16:30.26Neronixs/rune/run
16:30.32Neronixbut it couldn't take off. No chance in hell of getting users because the market's so frickin saturated
16:30.33TainAh see I think if you look for rewards in the game more than "enjoying playing with people" you're going to be disappointed eventually.
16:30.37MoonWolfRO servers were mostly places to have fun anyway.
16:30.39mjcNeronix: unterminated regex
16:30.48Neronixmjc: I noticed :P
16:31.11mjcs^run^run/^\
16:31.14MoonWolfwith all the funky weird stuff you could get.
16:31.23mjcs/^\/^/
16:31.44NeronixAt any one time, there's 3 huge uberpopular servers, 2 dozen not so huge and uberpopular but still great places and 10^googol shitty, shity ones
16:31.45mjcbah!
16:31.51mjcs/^\\/^/
16:31.51Tekkub*pokes muTorrent with a stick
16:32.08Tekkubah better, a restart of muTorrent got it downloading
16:32.09mjcTekkub: my dedicated torrent box uses rtorrent
16:32.16haste_I use rtorrent :p
16:32.41TekkubI use Azureus, now muTorrent... need to get RSS working completely tho
16:32.44mjcmeh, only getting 5MB/s at the moment =(
16:32.58Tekkubbut rssfwd keeps me up to date in case the RSS downloader misses something
16:33.11Tekkub56.7 kB/s
16:33.20Tekkubwhichever k and B mu uses...
16:33.52mjcI'm downloading the US install on my dedicated box so I can prod haste_ to fix ora before my raid :D
16:34.14haste_Good that I'm not raiding today :p
16:35.24CIA-1803neronix * r3014 10/branches/Lexan-Ace2/: Created folder remotely
16:35.26gnorlishfrom looking at the info on utorrent
16:35.28mjchaste_: if I poke my guild hard enough they'd let you come on one of my chars :D
16:35.32gnorlishit seems much better than azureus?
16:35.35gnorlishresource-wise?
16:35.37mjcgnorlish: yes
16:35.41NeronixHell yes
16:35.48mjcorder of magnitude
16:35.58NeronixIt starts in 5 seconds at the absolute maximum
16:36.08NeronixAzureus took 30 secs for me
16:36.22NeronixUses about 5-7mb at any one time, Azureus >100mb
16:36.43NeronixOnly issue I have with it is that its closed source
16:37.05mjcand platform dependant
16:37.14hyperChipmunkand no linux, yea
16:37.26mjcI run it on darwine though
16:37.56gnorlishi'll have to try it out, azureus hurts when i'm running wow on one monitor and surfing the net + watching a movie on the other
16:38.20mjcyou'll love it.
16:38.26CIA-1803neronix 07Neronix * r3015 10Lexan-Ace2/: Lexan (Ace2 conversion) - Creating branch to convert Lexan to Ace2. Will act as a real-world type test for it.
16:38.38NeronixYou could easily run ut and wow at the same time, if you have the bandwidth :P
16:38.40mjclexan is fun
16:38.52Neronix/cheer
16:39.45haste_I need to convert oUF2 into Ace2 also :p
16:39.49mjcthe fuck is my keyboard
16:39.52AmadeoAce2 is out?
16:39.58haste_not really
16:40.02mjcah, it was hiding
16:40.45Neronix`afkAmadeo: It's still in earlyish beta
16:41.09AmadeoI see
16:41.19AmadeoAnyone happen to know how to extract the music from Half Life 2? haha
16:41.20TekkubI think we need to rally slouken to make the CTRA channel an in-game thing
16:41.30Tekkubthen we can drop CTRA completely
16:41.40Mikmahey, about Ace2... is it an required addon or does it only provide libraries which will be included within addon?
16:41.53Tekkubjust give us a starndarized, not displayed chat channel for the party/raid
16:42.03[Ammo]Tekkub: but still use it for item checks etc
16:42.07Shyvayou're in the usa right? ask him
16:42.41Tekkubyea ammo, the "standard" for the comm useage is already there, just make the channel shit in-game like the raidsay/raidwarning channel is now
16:44.01[Ammo]yeah
16:45.05Kebinusanthat would be nice
16:45.21Kebinusantired of 20 mods using 10 different comm channels
16:45.46Tekkubyea, and it would honestly kill any "need" for CTRA
16:46.09[Ammo]the raidwarning channel overhead display doesn't show the author right?
16:46.11Tekkubmods could still be used for dura checks and the like, but it wouldn't rely on CTRA/oRA to manage the channel
16:46.13CIA-1803otravi * r3016 10oRA_RaidSay/oRA_RaidSay.lua: oRA_RaidSay - Now sends over the Raid Warning channel (I hope).
16:46.17mjcall of my mods share the CTRA channel we use
16:46.23Tekkubdo believe so ammooo
16:46.43[Ammo]kinda sucky
16:47.07Tekkubwhy?
16:47.19[Ammo]well I like to see who's spamming :p
16:47.26[Ammo]guess I can see it from the chatframe
16:47.27[Ammo]but still
16:47.35Tekkubah, the info may be passed with the event
16:47.45Tekkubit doesn't go to the chat frame
16:47.51Tekkubit goes to an overhead frame
16:48.03[Ammo]I thought I saw a Raidwarning channel in some movies from PTR
16:48.14[Ammo]maybe you can turn it on/
16:48.21TekkubI dunno, maybe
16:48.28Kebinusanyou know ammo I was thinking about the C'Thun timer thing, if we dont sync the start of the fight then even if we adjust the start time, we're still going to have people with timer bars that are off
16:48.37Tekkubbut by default it goes to an overhead frame like UIErrorsFrame
16:48.39Kebinusanits really a problem for just about any fight
16:49.10Tekkubit's funny, the whole code of the thing is like a dozen lines at best :)
16:49.10Tekkubit's extremely simple
16:49.50Kebinusanor at least the slight delay between the time you get aggro and the time of the zonewide combat pulse
16:50.13Tekkubgoing into combat is very susceptable to lag
16:50.18Tekkubbut then so is comm...
16:50.22Tekkubso yea...
16:50.38Kebinusanyeah but on c'thun for example, some peopel were having timers 10 seconds off
16:50.38Tekkubcomm messages should be your first priorty, combat being a backup detection
16:50.47Kebinusanbecause they never saw the first eye beam event
16:50.59Tekkubyea, that's the point of sync :P
16:51.13Tekkubuse every method you can to detect it, and take the first one you see
16:51.18Kebinusanyeah, hence me saying its probably going to be needed
16:51.23[Ammo]well for now I want to get the timings right for smoeone who does see the eye beam
16:51.31[Ammo]then I can worry about syncing those events
16:51.35[Ammo]I think
16:52.00Tekkubgod I need a new guild that runs AQ40 and is closer to my schedule...
16:52.05Tekkubanyone want to help me?
16:52.10mjcsup
16:52.14Kebinusancome to shadowsong :-)
16:52.15Tekkubseriously, my guild is dying and I'm sick of this shit
16:52.18mjcah
16:52.20TekkubI want a healer now
16:52.23mjctransfer to magtheridon alliance :P
16:52.27MikmaI don't get it.. what does this last post got to do with MG2 download? http://wow.jaslaughter.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=899&#4630
16:52.33Kebinusanits carebear pve, and we have a reputation of being elitist jerks
16:52.37mjcor mug'thol horde
16:52.43TekkubI don't PvP :)
16:52.49Tekkuband I hate elitists :)
16:52.53*** join/#wowace CIA-10 (i=cia@cia.navi.cx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
16:52.57mjcI don't pvp either
16:52.59Tekkubthat's why I hang with the Ace crew *snicker*
16:52.59Kebinusanits not really elitist if you're better than everyone else
16:53.01Kebinusan;-)
16:53.03mjcon a pvp server though
16:53.07mjcTekkub: haha
16:53.16TekkubI don't do PvP servers, period
16:53.23Mikmapurl welcome CIA-10
16:53.24purl[all in unison] Hi, CIA-10!
16:53.25mjcdon't like getting ganked?
16:53.33Kebinusanheh you could come roll a druid or something here Tekk
16:53.37Tekkubno it's a waste of my time
16:53.45TekkubI want a druid, yes :)
16:53.54Shyvapriest is cooler :o
16:53.58Mikmadruid <3 priest <3
16:53.58[Ammo]levelling a char is meh
16:54.05Tekkub*shrug* I don't care I want fur
16:54.10Mikmalol
16:54.15Kebinusanyiff yiff
16:54.19Mikmafur-fetishist
16:54.23Tekkuband if it's horde I only play Orc and Tauren, and orcs have no class I want to be
16:54.23hyperChipmunkcan someone please pastebin the Patch.txt from the WoWTest directory?
16:54.26mjconly place I have ever had a serious issue with ganking is silithus
16:54.34wereHamsterganking isn't that bad as it used to be.. at least on my realm
16:54.42Kebinusanyeah chip one sec
16:54.47hyperChipmunkawesome, thanks
16:54.50Kebinusanthe one from the test or the actual patch
16:54.54Tekkubpasebin's being retarded
16:54.55hyperChipmunkfrom test
16:55.03Tekkubcommit it to the torrent thing on the SVN :)
16:55.21hyperChipmunkthere's usually subtle differences, and I like to run a diff on them to find out what they are
16:55.22CIA-1003otravi * r3017 10oRA/oRA.toc: oRA - Updated the TOC to 1.11.
16:55.29hyperChipmunkonly I couldn't install the test patch
16:55.34hyperChipmunkso I don't have the test Patch.txt
16:55.38mjcomg
16:55.43Kebinusanhmm
16:55.50Kebinusanexcept that pastebin cant connect todatabase
16:55.55Tekkub78.7% done... go g oMu
16:55.59Tekkub*go go Mu
16:55.59CIA-1003otravi * r3018 10oRA_Assist/oRA_Assist.toc: oRA_Assist - Updated the TOC to 1.11.
16:56.05hyperChipmunkpastebin.ca works
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16:56.15TekkubI now see... 12 seeds!
16:56.15MikmahyperChipmunk: pastebin.ca ?
16:56.17CIA-1003otravi * r3019 10oRA_Cooldowns/oRA_Cooldowns.toc: oRA_Cooldowns - Updated the TOC to 1.11.
16:56.19mjcI just sneezed into my water and iti went EVERYWHERE
16:56.19hyperChipmunkyea
16:56.22hyperChipmunkpastebin.ca rules
16:56.38hyperChipmunkand it isn't ever slow
16:56.43Tekkub*spits up mtndew laughing at mjc
16:56.46CIA-1003otravi * r3020 10oRA_Durability/oRA_Durability.toc: oRA_Durability - Updated the TOC to 1.11.
16:56.51mjcTekkub: all over the walls
16:56.54mjcand the monitor
16:56.55mjckeyboard
16:56.57mjctwo laptops
16:56.59mjcspeakers
16:57.09Mikmaok, that sounds pro
16:57.13Tekkubhrm... I guess I should do the TOC bullshit to or I'll forget the meaningless numbers
16:57.17mjcim pro
16:57.36hyperChipmunksed ftw
16:57.55Mikmahow can you sneeze in water?
16:57.56CIA-1003otravi * r3021 10oRA_Item/oRA_Item.toc: oRA_Item - Updated the TOC to 1.11.
16:58.00Tekkub11100?
16:58.02hyperChipmunkyes
16:58.05[Ammo]yarr
16:58.14WobinBah, Tekk
16:58.32WobinI'd play with Cham and you, but we're never on at the same time =(
16:58.34CIA-1003tekkub * r3022 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs - TOC to the hand...
16:58.45WobinUnless I start with the freaky sleeping patterns
16:58.51CIA-1003otravi * r3023 10oRA_MainTank/oRA_MainTank.toc: oRA_MainTank - Updated the TOC to 1.11.
16:59.04KebinusanChip: http://www.passage.bz/~kebinusan/patch.txt
16:59.13CIA-1003tekkub * r3024 10BossBlock/BossBlock.toc: BossBlock - TOC to the hand....
16:59.22CIA-1003hyperactiveChipmunk * r3025 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/FuBar_BattlegroundFu.toc:
16:59.22CIA-10FuBar_BattlegroundFu:
16:59.23CIA-10- TOC to 11100
16:59.43CIA-1003hyperactiveChipmunk * r3026 10BulkMail/BulkMail.toc:
16:59.43CIA-10BulkMail:
16:59.43CIA-10- TOC to 11100
16:59.45hyperChipmunkthanks man
16:59.55CIA-1003otravi * r3027 10oRA_Ready/oRA_Ready.toc: oRA_Ready - Updated the TOC to 1.11.
16:59.57CIA-1003tekkub * r3028 10CompostLib/ (. CompostLib.toc): CompostLib - TOC to the hand....
17:00.17mjcdo them all at once guys
17:00.30mjcno point in making 5000 commits for a simple sed line
17:00.31[Ammo]more spam!
17:00.39Tekkubyou know what, fuck it
17:00.43TekkubI'll change em locally
17:00.51[Ammo]hehe
17:00.53Tekkuband they'll go up the next time I make a USEFUL change
17:01.02hyperChipmunkyea, I'd do that, but I only have 2 projects
17:01.08hyperChipmunkso best to get it out of the way
17:01.23TekkubI hate TOC updates anyway, I don't want to promote mass updates for one tiny number change
17:01.40phyberif we all change our TOCs, we can get to the top of the CIA activity chart.
17:01.49KebinusanI promote loading out of date addons
17:02.09CIA-1003otravi * r3029 10oRA_Resist/oRA_Resist.toc: oRA_Resist - Updated the TOC to 1.11.
17:02.11haste_that should be all of them
17:02.14hyperChipmunkonly diff between the test and the live versions is that the following entry doesn't appear in the live version:
17:02.18hyperChipmunk- Elemental Mastery: If you have this effect and Clearcasting at the  same time, the Clearcasting effect will be consumed first.
17:02.43Mikmahiv-infections are rising again in europe :P
17:03.50Mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4572-CastingBarTimer.html <- das sum nice texture!
17:04.21Mikmai wanna have that on my durid
17:04.34[Ammo]they look like some kid took a green grayon to the blizz textures
17:04.44[Ammo]crayon probably but shrug
17:05.21Mikmayeah, but how is that different from original textures then? ;)
17:06.10[Ammo]I never liked the original textures
17:06.12[Ammo]way too bulky
17:10.42CIA-1003tekkub * r3030 10ExpressMail/ (. ExpressMail.lua ExpressMail.toc):
17:10.42CIA-10ExpressMail - Initial submission
17:10.42CIA-10- Simple mailbox mod, makes shift-clicking a message in the inbox take the cash or item in the box.
17:12.00CIA-1003tekkub * r3031 10ExpressMail/ (ExpressMail.lua ExpressMail.toc): ExpressMail - Updated metadata
17:12.17Amadeoso now that 1.11 is here, I guess it's time to delete Catalyst
17:12.21WobinTekkub: And deletes the remainder?
17:12.26Tekkubno wob
17:12.34Tekkubauction auto-delete
17:12.44TekkubI never sat down and got peoplemails to delete
17:12.52WobinYou need more bank alts
17:13.44Amadeoso for 1.11, Mages and Druids are invincible
17:13.59gnorlish?_?
17:14.13hyperChipmunkah and no-body messages delete automatically when their item is taken
17:14.32hyperChipmunkthat's why bulkmail doesn't include write the silly 'item n of m' in the body field
17:15.18hyperChipmunkand Tekkub, you gonna relieve me from making an inbox handler for bulkmail? =)
17:15.44hyperChipmunklike the name too =)
17:15.54KebinusanThe last time I tried bulkmail I got kind of annoyed that if I typed in the player name after putting items in the window, I had to put the items in all over again
17:16.13Wobinpoor shammies: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman&t=615735&p=1&tmp=1#post615735
17:16.15hyperChipmunkthere's a reason for that
17:16.30Kebinusanyeah I know, thats why I went back to CT_Mail mod
17:16.36hyperChipmunk=\
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17:17.35MikmaWobin: "Height, Level 60" .. doesn't say character :D
17:17.54WobinWuh?
17:18.19Mikmathe author of the post doesn't have character listed hehe
17:18.20hyperChipmunkif the mail system didn't try to automatically fill in names, then it woulnd't be a problem; I'd just add autosend items when you reached the name
17:18.30Mikmaoh, nobody has :P
17:18.41Wobinheh, I think that's a Blizzard forum problem atm, none of them are showing it
17:18.42hyperChipmunkbut if you type in a name, you'll get the autosends of all of the intermediate names added to the list
17:19.17Mikmayeah hehe, maybe it won't work since servers are down?
17:19.28haste_~laziness
17:19.30purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
17:20.16Wobinhm
17:20.38WobinI'm actually finding the WoWi - Lite version a whole lot easier to read
17:20.42hyperChipmunksay you have a friend called Fatman and an alt called Foo; you send the gems you get from mining to Fatman for his tradeskilling, and send random tradeskilling stuff of your own to Foo
17:20.50hyperChipmunkso, you want to send some stuff to Foo
17:21.09Amadeois that what it is, Wobin? I was wondering why I didn't like it
17:21.10Amadeohaha
17:21.21hyperChipmunkyou type F, and Fatman is autocompleted, and any gems you have get added to the send list
17:21.51hyperChipmunkthen you type o, and it changes to autocomplete Foo, but if it didn't clear the list, you'd get Fatman's stuff going to Foo, which is not what you want
17:22.47hyperChipmunkand if you had stuff to send to Fonz, his stuff would be added on the way there
17:22.56hyperChipmunkand they'd all go to Foo
17:23.21hyperChipmunkthe situation is inconsistent, and changes depending on the person's friendslist
17:23.25AmadeoFonz?? Ayyyyy
17:23.44hyperChipmunkhm
17:23.55hyperChipmunkmaybe I can tag manually-added items and not change those
17:23.58Kebinusanyeah, I tried it for a while, but I always forgot to type in my bank mules name before putting in the items
17:24.09CIA-1003thiana * r3032 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc):
17:24.09CIA-10FuBar_tcgTradeskills:
17:24.09CIA-10* Update toc for 1.11
17:24.09CIA-10* Use the new GetAddOnMetadata() for version/etc data.
17:24.15hyperChipmunkwould that work?
17:27.29Kebinusannot sure, I just kind of figured bulkmail wasnt for me because all I do is mass mail items between my bank mule and my main
17:27.42hyperChipmunkthat's the entire point of BUlkMail =x
17:28.20hyperChipmunkdo you use the autosend features at all?
17:28.35KebinusanI played iwth it for a whole two hours over a week ago, so let me give some honest feedback once the servers come back up
17:28.52Mikmaoh right, shamans are getting a +spell damage on frostband and flametongue
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17:29.40Kebinusanmight be nice if you could predefine mules, like always send herbs to this guy, generic fallback bank is x
17:29.46hyperChipmunk...
17:29.54hyperChipmunk/facepalm
17:29.58Kebinusanheheh, I'll shut up till I can play wiht it
17:30.58hyperChipmunkKebinusan: that is EXACTLY what BulkMail does =P
17:31.01Mikmahttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman&t=607966&p=1&tmp=1#post607966 lol :D
17:31.08KebinusanI must have been using it wrong
17:31.13WobinWhen are the servers back up?
17:31.15Kebinusanso forgive me, I'll give it another shot
17:31.22hyperChipmunk=)
17:31.24hyperChipmunkread the readme
17:31.28CIA-1003phyber * r3033 10AceGCInfo/ (AceGCInfo.lua AceGCInfo.toc):
17:31.28CIA-10AceGCInfo:
17:31.28CIA-10- Changed TOC to 11100
17:31.28CIA-10- Fixed the stuff I borked last night
17:31.41hyperChipmunkI worked hard on it!
17:31.44hyperChipmunkit's funny!
17:32.00Kebinusanyeah I figured, I liked how clean the ui looekd for it
17:32.37KebinusanI just didnt really give myself a chance to learn the difference from ct_mailmod
17:32.53hyperChipmunkplease read the readme =)
17:33.00ckknighthrm, Opera 9 was released
17:33.08Kebinusanyeah, I am
17:33.08hyperChipmunkyou don't need servers for that
17:33.12hyperChipmunkyay =D
17:33.13Mikmasomeone made Eyonix mad within that post :P
17:33.19AmadeoEyonix is always mad
17:33.26Amadeohe's mad because he doesn't know what's going on in WoW!
17:33.40Kebinusanor he's mad because he does and is powerless to change it!
17:33.54AmadeoEyonix was just a troll a while back, not sure what he does now
17:34.00Amadeohe used to just go around insulting people
17:34.05Mikmaok then haha
17:34.17Mikmano wonder they wanted him to get hit by a bus
17:34.49Amadeothey said get hit by a bus, rofl
17:35.04Kebinusanwow, I really should have read the readme
17:35.07Kebinusanhahahahah
17:35.11AmadeoHe called it a real life threat
17:35.28AmadeoI don't see it as a threat, he didn't say he would drive a bus into him
17:35.37Mikma"This is a video game. There is never just cause or reason to wish serious real life harm, or even death upon someone due any aspect of this game's design."
17:38.31wereHamsterare only WoW addons allowed in the ace svn repo?
17:38.43ckknightnot necessarily
17:38.54Tekkub*points at patch torrent*
17:39.05hyperChipmunkhm
17:39.12wereHamsterwhat about (php-)code for something like this: http://dbservice.com/tom/guildprogress/ ?
17:39.14hyperChipmunkI should upload the wowmodelview source
17:39.22hyperChipmunkand get it to ACTUALLY compile for linux
17:39.39wereHamsteryay :)
17:40.00hyperChipmunkdude has like, hard-coded directory names from /root and crap
17:40.13hyperChipmunkin the Makefile
17:40.53Cairenntem, you around?
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17:43.43hyperChipmunkLIBS = -lmpq /root/cximage599c/build-linux/libCxImage.a /root/cximage599c/build-linux/libCxImage.a /root/cximage599c/build-linux/libjasper.a
17:43.47ElkanohyperChipmunk? with GloryLib fixed bg status now also updates on join :)
17:43.57hyperChipmunkyay
17:44.37ElkanoI'll try to get in BGs know to test my latest change to HonorFu and that will be ready then, too :)
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17:49.59Elkanohmpf... BattlegroundFu.lua:661: GloryLib: Bad argument #2 to `GetFactionColor' (string or number expected, got nil)
17:50.14Elkano(not the 1.11 build)
17:50.17hyperChipmunkthat's ckknight's error-check code
17:50.36hyperChipmunki have to write a workaround
17:51.03Makkhm
17:51.06ckknightshould it accept nil?
17:51.16MakkAnyone gonna fix keyrings and CardBars for 1.11?
17:51.50hyperChipmunkyea, because the server takes a second to respond
17:52.23kergothheh, our air conditioning in the hotel room didnt work yesterday, at all
17:52.28kergothlast night's sleep sucked ass.
17:52.37hyperChipmunkso the value for the GetLandmarkInfo API function doesn't exist
17:52.51hyperChipmunkand we don't get a faction
17:53.18hyperChipmunkso it has to run through and do nothing if it gets nil
17:53.32hyperChipmunkwhich is what it did before you made nil throw an error
17:53.42hyperChipmunkit still works, it just generates errors
17:53.48hyperChipmunkthe function wasn't doing anything if it's nil anyway
18:00.49Ratbert_CPWhat's a good CLI linux torrent client?
18:01.13hyperChipmunkbittorrent? =x
18:01.18kergothsomething wrong with teh bittorrent one?
18:01.23kergoththere's both headless and curses, iirc
18:01.30hyperChipmunkcorrect
18:01.54kergothnow if you'd asked about gui ones, thats a bit uglier :)
18:02.00hyperChipmunk=P
18:02.03Ratbert_CPWell...  given the general animosity to the bottorrent client for Windows, I didn't know if there was a similar feeling for Linux clients
18:02.09Ratbert_CP:)
18:02.20mjcugh
18:02.24mjctaking forever to get back up
18:02.25kergothfor guis, sure, the graphical stock bt client sucks
18:02.28mjcrtorrent is good
18:02.31kergothfor both linux and windows
18:03.56mjcyep
18:04.04mjckergoth: still have that crossfire?
18:05.22Tekkubwheeeee I love causing guild drama
18:05.35TekkubI'm stiring the pot over this whole DKP decay bullshit :)
18:06.11kergothmjc: yeah.  unfortunately had to bring it back to minnesota for 6 months... partly into the winter...
18:06.12Gngskteeth decay, why shouldn't dee kay pee?
18:06.19mjckergoth: sucks
18:06.22kergothmjc: i got stucdk in the snow 10 feet from my front door, sitting in front of my mailbox.
18:06.24Tekkubbut trying to give them constructive solutions to their "infrequent raiders ninjaing good items from the core raiders" problem
18:06.25kergoth:P
18:06.36mjckergoth: subaru wrx ftw
18:06.44MoonWolfMaster loot people.
18:06.52kergothwide tires + rear wheel drive + light backend / hatchback / no backseats + MN winter = bad
18:06.54MoonWolfoh
18:06.57TekkubI don't mean ninja in that sence moon
18:07.00MoonWolfah
18:07.05Gngskattendance threshold set to 75%!
18:07.06kergothi had to load up the back with my weights from my weight bench
18:07.07kergothhehe
18:07.14hyperChipmunkI think we gave 10% less zero-sum adjustment to inactive players
18:07.15mjchahah
18:07.19TekkubI mean people who are gone a month, show up and spend old points to get a nice item, and dissappear another month
18:07.34mjckergoth: I picked up a 2003 WRX STI for a project car
18:07.37kergothnice
18:07.43TekkubI suggested they weight bids against attendance % over the last 6 weeks
18:07.56Tekkubgive to the highest "effective bid" at the full bid price
18:08.07MoonWolfthis caused huge drama ?
18:08.13MoonWolfactually, not a bad suggestion.
18:08.18Tekkubso if someone inactive really wants an item they can still get it, but a much higher price
18:08.39MoonWolfand the actual amount doesnt decay
18:08.45Tekkubyea cause it's the people who are in every raid, who have 500 DKP that are bitching that they can't get the items they want
18:08.50MoonWolfso be active for a decent time and you whole value is back.
18:08.57Tekkubexactly
18:09.02MoonWolfyour*
18:09.05Tekkublets see this was my example...
18:09.11TekkubA has 100 DKP, B has 150
18:09.21TekkubA has 80% attendance, B has 20%
18:09.33TekkubA bids 25... effective bid of 20
18:09.45Tekkubif B wants the item he need EB of 21
18:09.51Tekkubwhich would cost him 105 DKP
18:10.04Tekkubso if he wants the item he can spend 2/3 of his DKP
18:10.29Codayusnot a bad suggestion...
18:10.29Tekkubor raid more and it'd cost less
18:10.30Kebinusansounds complicated
18:10.36Mikmano, not really
18:10.38MoonWolfsounds pretty fair.
18:10.42Tekkubthe yalready track attendace Keb
18:10.47Mikmathat sounds pretty good actually
18:10.48Codayusreally emphasizes qattendance...which isn't a bad thing per se
18:10.53Mikmalow attendance = costs more
18:10.59Tekkubthe current "idea" was after 4 raids missed in a row you lose x%
18:11.00Tekkuband x == 20
18:11.01MoonWolfits better then a normal decay
18:11.03MoonWolfthats for sure.
18:11.06Tekkubnoone liked the 20
18:11.13Kebinusanyeah wouldnt be bad if you could automate that
18:11.27Mikmawhat about if someone misses 3 and appears in 4th for 15mins
18:11.31Tekkubwell you've got DKP and attendance % numbers already at the satrt of the raid
18:11.41Tekkubthe bid taker just needs to do some quick math
18:11.43Codayusmy guild rewards attendance with rampant inflation.  :/
18:11.51Mikmayou should name it DeKkup
18:11.57Mikmap=P
18:12.00Tekkubyea I'm still pushing 0-sum on them to at least stop the inflation
18:12.13Tekkubit won't correct the inflation that's already there, but it would help
18:12.16Kebinusanyeah, write a mod to do the math automagically
18:12.19Kebinusanthen it sounds good
18:12.24Kebinusan:-)
18:12.25MoonWolfi dont like 0 sum
18:12.31MoonWolfi like hoarding dkp
18:12.31Codayuswell, depends what you want the system to do...
18:12.41Tekkubmeh, a calculator is easier than trying to get a mod to work
18:12.43hyperChipmunkI like watching MoonWolf die in a fire
18:12.50MoonWolfso do I
18:12.54MoonWolfwait that didnt make sense.
18:13.03Tekkubthat's why you must die
18:13.35Kebinusanheh, we hav ea mod to handle bidding in raids that integrates with getdkp which integrates with eqdkp, then use the eqdkp modded raidtracker to upload raids, so thinking is kept to a level somewhere between 0 and 1 on a scale of 10
18:13.39mjcTekkub: why not just give priority to the core team
18:13.39mjccan't connect to svn.wowace
18:13.42CodayusI'm kind of pushink for us to use suicide kings on our casual 20 mans.  we currently just random
18:13.42Tekkubthe guild leader like my attendance weighting idea, good
18:13.47mjcworks now
18:13.54Tekkubhe's the one that manages DKP, it might just happen
18:14.02KebinusanI dont like SK
18:14.13Kebinusanpeople pass on upgrades too much
18:14.20kergothour guild is so casual, we still just roll.  course we cant even do a full guild MC run yet, just ZG
18:14.24MoonWolfpeople that think it sucks plan on taking advantage of the current system!
18:14.31CodayusI like the concept for, say, zg.  not so much for mc
18:14.59mjcwe got ragnaros down to 1% last attempt =(
18:15.07Codayusow
18:15.11Kebinusanmore dots
18:15.17mjcfirst attempt though
18:15.21mjcyeah, more dots :D
18:15.21Mikma~moredots
18:15.23purlmore dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!
18:15.26mjchaha
18:15.29Kebinusanheheh
18:15.30mjcthat's great
18:15.49Kebinusanoh I remember back to our first rag kill
18:15.55Kebinusanfarming large rope nets to cc sons of flame
18:16.08Kebinusanoh what fun
18:16.11MoonWolfyou can still farm rope nets ?
18:16.21Kebinusanno, thats how long ago it was
18:16.21MoonWolfi thought those were removed.
18:16.23steino<PROTECTED>
18:16.25Tekkubyou know kerg, I need to get leveled up so I can play with you guys
18:16.30steino*weee*
18:16.33Codayus....rope nets?  oO
18:16.34kergothyou should, my mage just hit 40 :P
18:16.42steinocant say aq was any better :|
18:16.44Tekkubsomeone force me to level there... who did I give that job? wasn't it wobblin?
18:16.45kergothi should roll a hunter and level with you one of these days
18:16.47Kebinusanor making horde alts for really sticky glue, we did that too
18:16.51kergothyeah it was wobin
18:17.08MoonWolfwowi is holding up pretty well
18:17.08Wobinfeh
18:17.08Tekkubwob is fired, you have the job now kergy
18:17.14kergothhehe
18:17.21MoonWolfcurse.... not that much
18:17.22WobinYou just ignore me =P
18:17.29mjcwhat are the links for the more dots guy
18:17.32TekkubI'm serious, I want to do MC the way it was meant to
18:17.34kergothtonight will be fun, the usual 8 quadrillion addon updates, i'm sure
18:17.43Tekkubnot just show up and get the tablescraps
18:17.48kergothsure as hell glad my addon seti s maintained in svn
18:17.49MoonWolfworldofwar is doing good too.
18:17.52Kebinusanthe way it was meant to? with half the raid alt tabbed?
18:17.53kergothnice
18:18.10Tekkubquiet you
18:18.23Mikmahmm i remember our Hakkar-kill once. last people standing were 2 priests, and we managed to kill him hehe
18:18.36mjchttp://onyserious.ytmnsfw.com/
18:18.38CodayusHeh, my guilds first rag kill was uh....3 weeks ago.  a real rush....no char in the raid (or guild) had seen him die before, and only 2 players had
18:18.40Mikmaand yes i was the other priest
18:18.46Tekkublol that's how raids should end
18:18.59Tekkubthen the priests ninja any good items, as they earned them
18:19.03Tekkubthen rez the others
18:19.07CodayusI think 1 person had 8/8 t1.  Most had much less.
18:19.28Codayusfun!
18:19.34Kebinusanthose are good times
18:19.40Kebinusanour first c'thun kill was an amazing rush
18:19.49CodayusI bet
18:20.05Codayusprogression = fun
18:20.17Kebinusanit was funny cause for the first four kills everyone would start to get all excited towards the end
18:20.39Kebinusanwe'd lose more people because they were over anxious than anything
18:20.50Mikma~moredots
18:20.52purlmore dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!
18:21.02CIA-1003ammo * r3034 10oRA_RaidSay/oRA_RaidSay.lua:
18:21.02CIA-10oRA_RaidSay:
18:21.02CIA-10* Put the UIERRORSHOLDTIME back. Want those messages to fade, not stay there forever.
18:21.13Tekkuboh yea keyrings... blizzy just gave me 6 new bag slots, thank you blizzy
18:21.30Makkyeah
18:21.30Tekkubsame with the mat stack increases
18:21.35Mikma"who da fuuuck was that?!?" ;)
18:21.40Tekkubleathers were soooo stupid at 10
18:21.43Kebinusanyeah, too bad potions dont stack to 20
18:21.45Makkare anyone gonna add Keyrings to cardbars?
18:21.58GngskMikma, crushim
18:21.59Codayusthe onsumables nerfs suck...
18:22.00Tekkubdo we NEED keyrings in the bag mods?
18:22.02Wobinoh, but I love the poisons restack
18:22.11Wobinand the rogue consumables
18:22.16TekkubI mean, they go into em by default right... would you ever want to remove an item?
18:22.27Codayuswe used zanzas for our first two rag kills.  don't need them any more thankfully
18:22.28Tekkubitem/key
18:23.16Kebinusanyeah at least I dont have to buy bijous and coins from famers anymore
18:23.16kergoth* "Disable All Addons" will obey the character/all selection.
18:23.17kergoththank god
18:23.20kergoth(1.12)
18:23.25kergoththat one bugged the hell out of me
18:23.44Mikmahell yeah
18:24.14Tekkubanyone happen to have itemid's for the new ZG enchant questitem drops? (no)
18:24.27Codayusblasted lands buffs got the nerf bat too. :-(
18:24.49*** join/#wowace SilverShadow (n=silversh@69-2-90-22.wan.networktel.net)
18:24.58Kebinusanyeh bl buffs are only +25 stat
18:25.04Gngsk/mourn tubers
18:25.16Tekkub^^
18:25.30CodayusI guess to try and make the nerfed zanzas seem worthwhile
18:25.33Codayuslame
18:25.47Makk20:30:28  * Tekkub deletes oRA ready and oRA Raidsay
18:25.50Makkhuh, why?
18:25.56MoonWolf1.11
18:25.59Tekkubthe new raid shit
18:26.02Kebinusanblizzard hates fun
18:26.05Makkoh
18:26.24Tekkubinstall faster damnit!
18:26.30Codayusoh well, at least where my guild is we can just make it up by getting more epics
18:26.36TekkubI want to get in and like, spend more money on runecloth
18:26.45TekkubI'm in a good mood, I want a kitty
18:26.50CodayusIf we were on say, twin emps...and horde....I'd be more upset.  :-)
18:26.53mjchttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/3/2/4/3241105d468916477614d8a8243725b6.mp3
18:26.53mjcheh
18:29.40haste_that's a former guildy of mine
18:30.45Shyvanice guy ^^
18:30.52mjchaste_: seriously?
18:31.07Mikmahaste_: is that you? ;)
18:31.39Tekkub!hug Pandora
18:31.42Ratbert_CPmjc, still have that torrent active?  I can't seem to get anything working (including an attempt to use torrentflux!?!)
18:31.45Tekkub~hug Pandora
18:31.46purlACTION hugs Pandora
18:31.51mjcRatbert_CP: http://325i.org/wow
18:31.56Tekkub~molest Panaran
18:31.57mjcwtf is torrentflux
18:32.13Tekkub*Pandaren
18:32.26haste_mjc, yeh, he is :p
18:32.45TekkubGOD DAMNIT INSTALL FASTER! *kicks HDD
18:32.57Tekkuboh look it's done
18:32.59mjcTekkub: the servers aren't up
18:33.09mjc~moredots
18:33.10purlleft side! even side!
18:33.12Tekkubbah they said 11 pacific
18:33.29Shyva"they said" ...
18:34.22Tekkuband it downloads another patch already? bad sign
18:34.26Mikmawow that was a long mp3
18:34.47Ratbert_CPGrrr....  Damned tracker doesn't respond...
18:34.52mjcRatbert_CP: works for me
18:35.13*** join/#wowace Sare (n=Sare@216.46.139.115)
18:36.00mjchey hun
18:36.03Sareheya
18:36.17mjc~hug Sare
18:36.19purlACTION hugs Sare
18:36.33mjckergoth: meet my girlfriend =)
18:36.51Saretricky tricky. lol
18:36.53mjcTekkub: 1.11 is the only patch I needed
18:37.02SareHello Kergoth =)
18:37.02mjc~moredots
18:37.03purlhandle it!
18:37.16Mikmahey girlfriend!
18:37.19Tekkubhrm...
18:37.21mjc~moredots
18:37.22purldps very, very slowly - I mean f*cking slow
18:37.25mjchaha
18:37.28Kebinusan~C'thun
18:37.30purl*** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - Pleasure! ***
18:37.35Sareahha
18:37.41mjchahah
18:37.51mjcTekkub: hm?
18:37.57mjc~love Sare
18:37.58purlIf you love Sare so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
18:38.02mjc:D
18:38.02Tekkubshit I installed the PTR patch ><
18:38.06Tekkubgo g ome...
18:38.08mjcTekkub: hahah
18:38.10Tekkub*go go me...
18:38.16haste_fail!
18:38.30mjcSare: the more dots guy is one of haste_'s former guildies :D
18:38.55Sareo.O
18:38.58Tekkubnote to self, delete patches from BT box after installed
18:39.00Mikmai'm starting to believe it's haste himself nihaha
18:39.03mjchaha
18:39.08mjcTekkub: yes
18:39.11mjcthat might help
18:39.12haste_what the hell..
18:40.15mjchaste_: ?
18:41.48haste_Mikmas comment :p
18:41.52mjcah
18:42.16Elkanodamn patch, tomorrow I'll loose the legendary AQ mount (wrt my ItemDB) :(
18:42.26Mikmahaste_: sorry, it really really was a joke, i was hoping you understand it as one
18:43.20haste_Mikma, no harm done, *points at the :p*
18:44.23MikmaBAH! 20:34: 24.5°C ..
18:45.05CIA-1003elkano * r3035 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: HonorFu: removed BattlegroundMap timer since the fixes to GloryLib made it obsolete
18:48.31Tekkubheh, remember what maia was asking last night...
18:48.53Tekkuboh fuck you copy/paste... please hold
18:49.18Tekkub"All controlled units will now be titled based on the creature type. All beasts will be referred to as Pets, for example (no matter how they are controlled). Previously, there were several inconsistencies."
18:49.20Tekkub*grin*
18:50.11mjcmagtheridon US is on the list now yay
18:50.27Tekkubah ha, they gave a list
18:50.30hyperChipmunkgogogo
18:50.40Tekkubthere's 8 "keys" in the game
18:50.55Tekkubso by level 40 your keyring is plenty big enough, for now
18:51.34Amadeowhere do you get the keyrings? or is it automatic?
18:51.39ElkanoTekkub, any eta when you will port CorkFu to BabbleLib? I tryed it myself but I failed :(
18:51.50Tekkubit's half done on my side
18:51.59TekkubI need to finish that
18:53.09hyperChipmunk8 keys, hmm...crescent key, key to scholomance, key to stratholme, scarlet key, darkforge key, workshop key...
18:53.10WobinAmadeo: automatic
18:53.24hyperChipmunki guess the mauradon staff and postbox keys don't count?
18:53.33haste_dm key
18:53.33Wobindon't believe so
18:53.33Amadeonice
18:53.38hyperChipmunkdm is crescent
18:53.51hyperChipmunkand the lockbox keys from brd
18:53.58hyperChipmunkthey prolly don't count either?
18:54.00Tekkubno, the "item" keys don't count
18:54.02kergothwould be nice if the mara staff counted
18:54.05Wobinspam
18:54.06WobinKey to Searing Gorge
18:54.06WobinWorkshop Key
18:54.06WobinThe Scarlet Key
18:54.06WobinShadowforge Key
18:54.06WobinKey to the City
18:54.08WobinSkeleton Key
18:54.10WobinPrison Cell Key
18:54.12WobinCrescent Key
18:54.18Tekkuboh just as I was gonna paste
18:54.23hyperChipmunkthere isn't a key for searing gorge
18:54.29Wobinsure there is
18:54.30Tekkubyes there is
18:54.33gnorlishalliance
18:54.36hyperChipmunkhm
18:54.37Tekkubyou dirty hordeie
18:54.42hyperChipmunkno, I'm alliance
18:54.42Tekkub*grin*
18:54.42Wobinfor the gate from Therawhateveritis
18:54.46AmadeoYou've never been to the gate?
18:54.48hyperChipmunkI know where the gate is
18:54.51hyperChipmunkI didn't think they gave you a key
18:54.56Tekkub"Do you not speak common?" I love that NPC
18:55.04IndustrialMikma: im leveling
18:55.08MikmaIndustrial: good :)
18:55.10AmadeoLooks like the servers are slowly coming up
18:55.13WobinYou kill an elite thunderlizard, grab the horn then run back and forth across all of existance for a key you'll never use
18:55.20Industrialgunna head to westfall now
18:55.44MikmahyperChipmunk: there's some monster in searing gorge which will drop the key and it needs to be returned to the npc guarding the gate in loch modan
18:55.45hyperChipmunkso I missed, what, prison cell and searing gorge?
18:55.47Tekkubjust in time... come on icecrown!
18:55.54WobinSince by the time you have the chance to get the key, you already have the flightpoint =P
18:56.05hyperChipmunkoh I did the quest
18:56.13Tekkubyea but the key was in long before the flightpoint
18:56.16Wobinskeleton key
18:56.42TekkubI need a Shadowforge key sometime.. I don't have one yet
18:56.49hyperChipmunkthat's scholomance key
18:56.50Tekkuband prison cell
18:57.08AmadeoMetaMap is useless for me now, they removed all of the mob points for instance maps
18:57.32WobinI use Atlas for that
18:57.33hyperChipmunkprison cell is the one for the ony quest
18:57.36Mikmaso any ETA on char transfers?
18:57.41kergothmmm, those stack size boosts are yummy
18:57.42hyperChipmunkyea, I always destroy that one and get a new one =P
18:57.42AmadeoWobin: Atlas is a lot larger though
18:57.50Wobinmeh, worthwhile
18:57.51Tekkub"Primal Hakkari Tokens: These items from Zul'Gurub now identify which classes can use them in their item descriptions."
18:58.01kergothmetamap is a beast.  consuming functionality that never belonged in it
18:58.06kergothi refuse to even attempt to use it
18:58.09kergothheh
18:58.18hyperChipmunkmetamap is one mod to rule them all
18:58.30hyperChipmunkit should be destroyed
18:58.42hyperChipmunkit's the friggin borg of addons
18:58.50kergothhmm, my poor neglected main, the 60 shammy... i have no idea how to spec him now, never play him
18:58.52AmadeoMetaMap is a bit much, but it's smaller than Atlas
18:58.56Amadeoby a meg or more
18:59.07hyperChipmunkmaybe diskspace
18:59.20TekkubElements... Five Thunders... Ten Storms... ... Fifteen whats?
18:59.25Amadeothe default full-screen low-res map is awful
18:59.36kergothTekkub: shaman sets.
18:59.37hyperChipmunkFifteen Drummers Drumming
18:59.51Tekkubyea kerg... what's gonna be fifteen?
18:59.53haste_Earthshatter is the next one in the line
19:00.02hyperChipmunkfifteen typhoons
19:00.04kergothah, hehe
19:00.06Tekkubbah earthshaker don't fit the pattern
19:00.15haste_not shaker :p
19:00.26Kebinusanthe only thing I use metamap for is the alphamap functionality I really should try and find something smaller
19:00.36kergothEating and Drinking: You will no longer fall through a chair you are sitting in if you eat or drink.
19:00.45kergothamusing bugs
19:01.07Gngskyea, it wanted to put your but on the ground
19:01.09Gngsk*butt
19:01.09mjchttp://facesofwow.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=76&pos=248
19:01.11hyperChipmunkwhat's alphamap?
19:01.16Tekkub"Eating and Drinking: You will no longer fall through a chair you are sitting in if you eat or drink."
19:01.18SlaymanAm i able to find out in which stance i am, i need a quick hack to use only one key from battle to berserker and back
19:01.20TekkubI love things like that
19:01.21Gngskold school transparent map
19:01.25Wobinkergoth: Wait for 1.12
19:01.36hyperChipmunk/script WorldMap:SetAlpha(0.5)
19:01.40hyperChipmunker
19:01.40kergothalphamap is a beast for what it does, we need a minimal map like that
19:01.46hyperChipmunk/script WorldMapFrame:SetAlpha(0.5)
19:01.46kergothhyperChipmunk: it also let you move while it was up and stuff
19:02.00Kebinusanyeah move and rescale
19:02.09kergothi'm actually enjoying using battlefield commander for that, it just needs all the fancy shit ripped out
19:02.24KebinusanI guess you could use the battlfield map frame outside of bgs
19:02.29KebinusanIve never tried it though
19:02.31kergoth:)
19:02.48Amadeokergoth: I thought AlphaMap was dead
19:03.02kergothits unmaintained. does work though
19:03.22kergothgods, i wont know what to do having un'goro and ratchet flight points finally
19:03.42Amadeoungoro? I didn't see that one
19:03.43Amadeoawesoem
19:04.39KebinusanI use it more more outside of bg's than anything, riding on my mount to different locations and whatnot
19:05.27hyperChipmunkhttp://www.geekily.com/wowfaces/index.php?module=My_eGallery&do=showpic&pid=3823  <--me =)
19:06.11mjcheh
19:06.14mjchyper indeed
19:07.07Tekkub"The Group Loot/Need before Greed dialogue will now show a golden dragon border around Bind on Pickup items."
19:07.09Tekkubkickass!
19:07.18hyperChipmunk>8p
19:07.19Tekkubnow i don't have to implement a check
19:07.33TekkubI wonder if the bind info is available in the API now too
19:07.39hyperChipmunkomg
19:07.41Tekkubit has to be, at least for rolls
19:08.02hyperChipmunkwoot, my server is le upz0rs
19:08.03Tekkuboh yea.. I need to too
19:08.13kergothshould add that to the mini n/g dialog addon too
19:08.16kergothi like that one
19:09.01Elkanoif any problems arise with ItemDB or FramesResized, just tell me :)
19:09.35*** join/#wowace steino (n=stein-iv@ti531210a080-2868.bb.online.no)
19:09.36mjcAce itself needs toc update
19:09.37hyperChipmunkLCDXML O-o
19:10.04phybera moment ago it was 20:06 20/06 2006
19:10.08phyberthe sky will fall soon.
19:10.11haste_for the fugly keyboard
19:10.16hyperChipmunkyea
19:10.52Tekkublocal texture, name, count, quality, bindOnPickUp = GetLootRollItemInfo(this.rollID);
19:11.02hyperChipmunkbeh
19:11.03Tekkubkick ass
19:11.33hyperChipmunkhopefully this.rollID is an item id
19:12.16hyperChipmunkactually, it can't be
19:12.26hyperChipmunkbecause if more than one of the same item drops, they have to have different IDs
19:12.43Tekkubit's not chip
19:12.54Tekkubit's sequenial from group formation
19:12.55hyperChipmunkthen it's only useful for rolling =P
19:13.08Tekkublook at the numbers in GreedBeacon, it's the roll id
19:13.26hyperChipmunkyou still have to ttscan for bind info
19:13.32hyperChipmunkon arbitrary item
19:14.46hyperChipmunkholy freaking errors batman
19:14.56Tekkubyea
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19:15.01Kebinusanclearfont kicked up an error, but most thigns seemed fine
19:15.01hyperChipmunkhm
19:15.06hyperChipmunklooks to be AceGUI
19:15.10Tekkubbut rolling has been most the places I wanted to know BoP stuff
19:15.18TekkubI'm gonna push out TreyIs Greedy now
19:15.19hyperChipmunkmy fricking armor ftw
19:15.22Kebinusanis there a script command to open the keyring, dab doesnt have support yet
19:15.23Tekkubstill need a better name
19:15.29Tekkubmaybe PartnersInCrime
19:15.30hyperChipmunkyea, I want to implement bound items in BulkMail though
19:15.31mjctreyls greedy?
19:15.33kergothyou add the stack size changes to pt?
19:15.45Tekkubduo-autorolling mod :)
19:15.57Tekkubkerg, stack size comes from the API
19:16.27Tekkuband I will fix the ZG quest sets shortly, I need an ids for that enchant stuff tho
19:17.47kergothah, cool cool
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19:19.32Tekkub"Shapeshifted Druids now maintain proper voice over." kek!
19:19.45Tekkubanyone else notice the shapshift voices before?
19:19.57WobinI think I hvae
19:20.02Tekkubbear was male NE and cat was female NE if I remember right
19:20.28TainNo, but I did replace the shapeshift sound effect to the Transformers transforming sound.
19:20.55Wobinfurbots in disguise
19:22.22MikmaWobin: seems like PK doesn't remember the "Show/Hide Labels" yet? because they do open everytime i pop the bags open
19:23.26MikmaWobin: and what's with the empty slots-frame? it doesn't show them all for some reason
19:23.40NeronixBah, no docs for Ace2
19:23.41WobinStill? =\
19:23.47Neronixneed to do trial and error >.>
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19:24.07MikmaNeronix: look from the examples if there's some help
19:24.08SyzxDoes anyone know if Squishy is broken? :(
19:24.16mjccegui hates me
19:24.24mjcand I had a problem trying to show my keys with card_bars loaded
19:25.04Mikmamjc: try my Bartender ;) it's almost like CardBars but it does remember the positions. not across characters tho
19:25.16mjcI use CB for autohide
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19:26.48Mikmaoh right
19:26.52Mikmaautohide is fun
19:27.00AmadeoBongos!
19:29.01gnorlishis bartender nice and simple like cardbars
19:29.10gnorlishi just use cb to move and scale
19:29.18AmadeoBartender is new?
19:29.21IndustrialidActionBar!
19:29.22Industrial:P
19:29.29TekkubCT hasn't removed /rs yet have they? the fools...
19:29.48haste_:-P
19:30.15Mikmathey work slow
19:30.16IndustrialTekkub: cide is i #wowi-lounge go tell him
19:30.24Tekkubhaste, you gonna make oRA send to the RW channel instead of the CTRA channel? *grin*
19:30.38Tekkubid: meh I'm sure he knows
19:30.44kergothMikma: you release bartender yet, or just in svn?
19:30.44haste_Tekkub, it already does
19:30.53Mikmakergoth: released
19:30.55haste_the RS messages that is
19:30.58TekkubI was hoping they had a 1.11-ready CTRA lying in wait, aparently they don't
19:31.02IndustrialTekkub: thats not my point
19:31.02Industrial:P{
19:31.04kergothMikma: yay, i'll switch when i get home :)
19:31.17Tekkubthat's what I mean hastey :)
19:31.19Mikmakergoth: but, haven't uploaded it anywhere yet since i still wanna know is there bugs left :)
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19:31.56AmadeoI'm afraid to update FuBar :P
19:31.56Kebinusanbleh tipbuddy is broken again
19:32.15NeronixMikma: Will do, thanks
19:32.33AmadeoTipBuddy was broken on Test for weeks
19:32.37kergothMikma: okay, i'll poke at it incessently
19:33.38arioseanyone ever see these weird white little bars from minigroup2?  anyone know what they are?
19:33.50kergothi like that blizz added range indicators
19:33.54kergothno more redrange, yay
19:34.21gnorlishholy goal
19:34.23Mikmaoh they did? huzzah!
19:36.29CIA-1003neronix 07Neronix * r3036 10Lexan-Ace2/ (. Lexan.toc):
19:36.29CIA-10Lexan (Ace2 conversion)
19:36.29CIA-10- Added ckknight's Ace2 branch to externals
19:36.29CIA-10- Added everything except AceLibraryBase to toc
19:37.43Amadeohow come everyone's moving to Ace2 already?
19:38.07NeronixIt's just me I think
19:38.11kergothlets see.. when i get home, need to remove ora_raidsay, ora_ready, redrange, catalyst, infield (make bagnon/banknon use the new clamping if they dont already), ..
19:38.17NeronixI'm doing this to help test it
19:38.33Neronixkergoth: rememberthemilk :P
19:38.39kergothooh good idea
19:38.42kergoth:)
19:38.52Amadeooh ok
19:39.09Amadeokergoth: There's a new bagnon already
19:39.28Wobinhurrah
19:39.31WobinAD is back up
19:39.33kergothah good
19:39.33Wobinfinally
19:39.40hyperChipmunkthis is like fricking christmas
19:39.41mjcbagnon?
19:39.52hyperChipmunkall my reflectors are on separate cooldown
19:39.57kergothmjc: small all in one inventory type bag addon.  like onebag, but with smaller in game ram usage
19:40.07kergothworks pretty well
19:40.17gnorlishbagnon is very nice
19:40.30kergoththat and mrplow = happy kergoth
19:40.48AmadeoMrPlow is strange sometimes, I can't figure out its sorting method always
19:41.10mjcAceAutoInvite broke
19:41.13kergothhehe. it still gets awfully confused by my enchanting bag
19:41.17mjcIsPlayerInGuild is broken
19:41.18NeronixSome servers still not up? Bleh, sounds like datacentre problems as always
19:41.20kergothneed to get debug output aout it yet
19:41.22mjckergoth: it likes my enchanting bag
19:41.26Neronixs/datacentre/datumcentre/
19:41.28kergothhuh
19:41.35NeronixThis is blizzard we're talking about ;P
19:41.36Amadeolike I'll have marks of honor from each BG, but MrPlow doesn't put them together
19:41.38kergothmine stalls momentarily, then continues
19:41.49kergothand when it stalled, i get those red 'you cant equp more than one of that type of bag' messages
19:41.56kergothkinda wierd
19:42.11Amadeokergoth: I think I had that on my Warlock with a shard bag
19:43.00WobinTekkub: metrognome:Start("Myname", 1) will only run it once, won't it?
19:43.57IndustrialHow does a human get his warlock lv 10 pet?
19:44.03kergothmjc: what class/race are you, out of curiosity?
19:44.14mjchuman mage and gnome rogue
19:44.34kergothugh, gnome rogue.  always stabbing at my knees and shit
19:44.36kergoth;)
19:44.36Tekkubyes wob
19:44.54AmadeoAceGUI is broken?
19:45.03Tekkubsweet, they dropped te DKP decay and are implementing my attendance-weighted bids instead
19:45.32steinooO
19:46.01TainI like a well-implemented dkp decay.
19:46.10AmadeoAceGUIElement.lua:44: 'KC_LinkviewFrameSortBoxTier2MenuRow12' has no child 'DisabledText'
19:46.11TainGet that old stinky dkp out and get the new in.
19:46.58Amadeois that an AceGUI bug or a KCI bug?
19:47.02hyperChipmunkacegui
19:47.05hyperChipmunkhappens w/ bulkmail too
19:48.04NeronixHmm, what's self.super?
19:48.30wereHamsterthe better part of you :-P
19:48.52AmadeohyperChipmunk: Argh, it'll never work then :P
19:51.15AmadeoStormwind is all dark
19:51.16Amadeohaha
19:51.52IndustrialNeronix: inheritance
19:52.04IndustrialNeronix: you have a fruit class and an apple class
19:52.11Industrialapple inherits some things from fuit
19:52.13NeronixAnd fruit is apple.super?
19:52.19Industrialyes
19:52.24NeronixI see, thanks
19:52.26Industrialnp
19:53.14Elkanotekkub, is it intentionaly that PT doesn't update tradeskill item's skill level during a session?
19:53.20Industrial'apple inherits from fruit so fruit its apples partne/super class' - I love to see the faces of people that cant program
19:53.33Industrialalso its funny to talk about how some sorts of programming si 'dirty'
19:53.37Industrial;D
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19:54.16Tekkubuh, it should update every time the frame is opened
19:54.54Elkanowell, it doesn't
19:56.11AmadeoI can't live without ClearFont
19:56.22NeronixDid CF break?
19:56.39WobinTek
19:57.02WobinIf you pass self as an arguement to the register for mG, does it set the self on the Start execution, or the Register?
19:57.30AmadeoNeronix: Yep
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19:57.51Neronix:'(
19:57.59Beladonahiya
19:58.21Shyvaif (x == false) then, is that the same as if (x == nil) then ?
19:59.02NeronixNo
19:59.06Mikmai don't think so, nil means "not found"
19:59.12Neronixfalse is a value
19:59.19Neronixand if a var has a value, it can't be nil
19:59.25Beladonafalse is an evaluation
19:59.27Shyvaok :)
19:59.29ShyvaThanks guys
19:59.33WobinOh dear
19:59.36Neronixnp
19:59.40WobinLFG is so going to be overspam now
19:59.42ShyvaI think I made a mistake in my test then ^^
20:00.05BeladonaI would assume it is a bug though right? the LFG thing
20:00.09NeronixFor God's sake, Iriel's already posted a 1.12 changes thread
20:00.19Neronixeven worse, it has content!
20:00.23WobinNeronix: He posted that ages ago =)
20:00.30NeronixI fail
20:00.50MikmaNeronix: link link
20:01.02Neronixhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=396933&p=1&tmp=1#post396933
20:01.25Mikmateh dinohead
20:02.09Cairennunh, yeah, I've already copied it over to WoWI, sheesh ... get with the times!
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20:03.22netcursethe love of patchdays
20:03.27WobinInterface\AddOns\!!Warmup\Warmup.lua:72 function `LoadAddOn'
20:03.35WobinUnexpected Symbol near ')'
20:03.38mjchaha
20:03.45mjcSare: sup
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20:10.13CIA-1003neronix 07Neronix * r3037 10Lexan-Ace2/ (Lexan.lua Lexan.toc):
20:10.13CIA-10Lexan (Ace2 conversion)
20:10.13CIA-10- Replaced TRUE and FALSE with true and false
20:10.13CIA-10- Changed order libs are loaded in to one that I think would work
20:11.28netcurseto update on curse us http://beta1.curse-gaming.com/en/ btw
20:12.09hyperChipmunkwas there always Target of Target in default interface?
20:12.21NeronixNew in 1.11
20:12.23Amadeothe LFG chat needs removed - NOW
20:12.34hyperChipmunk/leave LookingForGroup
20:12.40NeronixThen how will people look for groups?
20:12.41kergothShyva: 'if not foo' will evaluate as true if foo is either false or nil. it's quite rare to need to distinguish between nil and false.  one should really only use the latter if you truly need to distinguish between a value being defined vs being undefined.
20:12.48kergothimo
20:12.56AmadeoLFG is worldwide now
20:13.06Amadeoit's really a bad idea
20:13.10hyperChipmunkso turn it off
20:13.20Amadeoit's going to lag the server regardless of it being on or off
20:13.41WobinIt's horrifically spammy
20:13.42Wobin[4. LookingForGroup] [Rubius]: because it's world linked now, everyone can see everyone's chat, that's why they're doing it
20:13.42Wobin[4. LookingForGroup] [Noctemar]: Because everyone can hear you, and we're all attention whores.
20:13.53weabyou do know the chat channels are on completely different servers than the world right
20:13.58WobinAnd I just got dumped back to the character page
20:14.01AmadeoWobin: How'd you copy/paste text lines?
20:14.13Mikmachatlog?
20:14.15WobinWith one of AL's new addons
20:14.15kergothhuh. global lfg eh, no need for calltoarms anymore
20:14.19Amadeoweab: Then why did chat spamming crash the Test server?
20:14.29WobinAlthough it's not perfected, as he's still working on it
20:14.37Wobinbut it works fairly well
20:15.04Neronixkergoth: I'd say keep it. They'll probably change it back to being zone-specific
20:15.08AmadeoSuperInspect is broken :(
20:16.07AmadeoI love SuperInspect
20:16.12CIA-1003neronix 07Neronix * r3038 10Lexan-Ace2/Lexan.lua: Lexan (Ace2 conversion) - Initialize(), Enable() and Disable() --> OnInitialize(), OnEnable() and OnDisable()
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20:16.23CodayusHmm
20:16.42Mikmajust use /inspect meanwhile :P
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20:16.50Amadeohehe
20:16.50CodayusOkay, how do I *install* 1.11?  :-(
20:17.09AmadeoMikma: My reasons for loving SuperInspect are mainly for color coded items and durability info on each at a glance :P
20:17.12Wobinisn't the patcher doing itself?
20:17.12CodayusGrabbed it from a torrent...
20:17.26CodayusAnd have hmm, 3 MPQs.
20:17.34MikmaAmadeo: i know my gf uses it too :P but use the normal inspect while chester fix it
20:17.50Mikmaor, fix it yourself :D
20:18.26Amadeohaha
20:18.49Codayusnm
20:19.22NeronixAmadeo: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/download-13579.html
20:19.42NeronixCF beta for 1.11
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20:20.00NeronixKirkburn says he's quickly recoding his site before releasing the final ver
20:20.47CIA-1003wobin * r3039 10PlowKing/ (PlowKingBagSlot.lua PlowKingLocals.lua): PlowKing - Fixed an issue with items that needed to update after a tick due to loading
20:21.58Amadeothanks Neronix
20:21.59Amadeo:)
20:22.38haste_Xull hits you for 2195.
20:22.39Neronixnp
20:22.46haste_Warriors aren't imba !
20:23.17Kebinusansweet thanks for the clearfont dl
20:25.24NeronixWho wrote AceEvent?
20:25.59kergoththe ace1 incarnation?
20:26.39NeronixAce2
20:27.01NeronixProposing a minor optimisation :P
20:27.04kergothah, pretty sure that was clad
20:27.17NeronixI'll send him a botmail then
20:28.45TekkubPK handle the keyring yet? :)
20:28.48Mikma~moredots
20:28.49purlhandle it!
20:29.03MikmaWobin: yes, just as purl said
20:31.10WobinI don't know, I've not been able to log on for any appreciable time
20:31.26WobinBut if the keys get automatically moved into the ring, then no
20:31.34Wobinsince they no longer exist in the bags
20:33.12Tekkubthey don't if you have the keys right now
20:33.27Tekkubwell you could bounce em into the bank and back to fix that tho
20:33.34MoonWolfdoes the Keyring handle as a bag
20:33.39MoonWolfor as a seperate baglike system ?
20:33.43WobinI honestly don't know
20:33.44Tekkubit looks like a bag :)
20:33.52Tekkubit acts like a bag to the user
20:34.30MoonWolfit could be an extra bag slot that act much the same as the soulbags, or the enchanting bags
20:34.37MoonWolfit could be something totally different.
20:36.56NeronixThere's a small button to the left of bag4's button
20:37.02Neronixthat opens up the keyring
20:37.37NeronixThe number of slots gets bigger as the player levels
20:37.51Mikmacrap
20:38.06Mikmathat means i have to mod Bartender when 1.11 is live here
20:38.50Mikmaanyone knows what's the button called?
20:40.03haste_Mikma, http://fuxsake.net/ << search for keyring :p
20:40.34Mikma*drool* thanks bookmarking that
20:41.03WobinKeyRingButton
20:41.36haste_I suck at updating it tho' Mikma :p
20:42.00netcursehttp://narcissus-guild.com/raidassistant.swf
20:42.06Mikmahaste_: doesn't matter, you're still doing fine job on putting it on the net
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20:43.26Mikmai wonder is the BG statuswindow properly sized now
20:43.36Mikmait has been too small for 2 mayor patches
20:46.05MoonWolfi hope
20:46.11MoonWolfannoyed the hell out of me.
20:46.46netcurse2-2
20:46.47netcurselol
20:47.41Neronix`afk?
20:48.00netcurseswe-eng
20:48.10Neronix`afkooo
20:53.56Industrialhope swe wins
21:20.36maiaicehockey? swimming? beachvolleyball?
21:20.59Mikmasoccer
21:24.37kergoththe US not calling it football doesnt make any sense
21:24.41kergothsilly americans
21:24.43kergoth(and i am one)
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21:26.49CIA-1003shyva 07Shyva * r3040 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs/ Shyva/): Removed file/folder: Cleaning up my branch.
21:27.29pagefaultblah
21:27.31pagefaultpatch day
21:27.41kergothindeed
21:27.43kergothmadness!
21:27.51netcursefirst time i like a patchday
21:28.01pagefaultare the notes up yet
21:28.01netcursebecause i m not bloody stressed of the site totally down
21:28.35kergothnetcurse: grats :)
21:28.37CIA-1003shyva 07Shyva * r3041 10BigWigs/BigWigs/:
21:28.37CIA-10BigWigs:
21:28.37CIA-10- Added an easy way to add toggles to warnings. See Twins.lua and Test.lua for examples. (/bw warnings to toggle the warnings)
21:28.42pagefaultI am interested in this new shadow ward
21:28.59kergothi'm interested in all sorts of things.  i still have no idea how to respec my main
21:29.02kergoth:)
21:29.07pagefaulthaha wow
21:29.13pagefaultCoA works even when I am dead or leave
21:30.03pagefaultit's cool that respec gold amount will diminish now
21:30.05maiaanyone have an easy solution for the following problem? I'd want to identify the numbers in strings like "raid2", "raidpet24" etc. I guess there's an easier way than: if string.find(unitid,"partypet") then num = tonumber(string.sub(unitid,8)) else num = tonumber(string.sub(unitid,5)) end
21:30.14maia*raidpet
21:30.31kergothpagefault: yeah, that is nice.  i often switch chars, go months without playing one.. will be nice to be able to go back and easily respec :)
21:30.53pagefaultI am up to 50g per respec on my main now
21:31.07kergothow
21:31.16FryGuymaia: why not just string.find(unitid, "(%d+)")
21:31.28kergothi'm so happy i wont lose my 2h weapon skill when i respec my shammy anymore
21:31.37maiaFryGuy: because I didn't know that works. Thanks :)
21:32.02FryGuyi think it's _, _, num = string.find(unitid, "(%d+)")
21:32.05FryGuyi could be wrong
21:32.17pagefaultwhat are key rings
21:33.03pagefault<PROTECTED>
21:33.11pagefaultthen I saw shards
21:33.14pagefaultand I almost wet myself
21:33.18pagefaultbut that wasn't soul shards
21:33.32maiaFryGuy: well, it doesnt work.
21:34.18kergothkey rings are nifty
21:34.21CIA-1003shyva 07Shyva * r3042 10BigWigs/BigWigs/: Removed file/folder: going to try that again :-/
21:34.23kergothno more wasting space in my bank
21:34.33pagefaultso they hold your keys?
21:34.47kergothyep, the permanent instance keys. scarlet, etc
21:34.54pagefaultah nice
21:35.04pagefaultno more "brb while I port to org to get key can you summon me back kthx"
21:35.12kergothhehe, yep
21:35.15hyperChipmunkyea
21:36.13maiaFryGuy: my bad, the second one works
21:38.02CIA-1003shyva 07Shyva * r3043 10BigWigs/BigWigs/ (20 files in 9 dirs):
21:38.02CIA-10BigWigsBigWigsBigWigs: (second try)
21:38.02CIA-10- Added an easy way to add toggles to warnings. See Twins.lua and Test.lua for examples. (/bw warnings to toggle the warnings)
21:38.43Shyvabranching is hard
21:38.57maiaeww: UnitInRaid("raidpet2") is false.
21:38.59kergothits a copy
21:39.03kergoththats all
21:39.53Shyvaso many wrong buttons to press kergoth :o
21:40.02kergothoh, gui. pfft
21:40.03kergoth:P
21:40.19Shyva^^
21:41.07ShyvaI'm going to sleep now, nn people
21:53.18Neronix`afkHow am I supposed to register an addon with Ace2? Do I just do MyAddon = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0")() and MyAddon.author = "Dr Foo" etc, or do I pass a table to it like the way it was done in Ace1?
21:53.54maiatekkub, you there?
21:54.18NeronixI know it can take data via GetAddonMetadata, but 1.11's not out for EU yet :P
21:59.37maiaanyone noticed any changes with PlaySoundFile() ?
21:59.41Syzxmaia: is Squishy broken? :(
21:59.53maia1.11 doesnt play any soundfiles triggered by addons at the moment
22:00.00maiaSyzx: I'm working on a fix right now
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22:00.32Syzxit doesnt show up :(
22:00.52Syzxi want to get C'Thun down before the servers go down, and i'm playing without your fabulous mod now :(
22:01.04maiaSyzx: it's broken in raids, hopefully have a fix in the next 20min
22:01.12Syzxplease do :D
22:01.34maiaall I need is to find out why PlaySoundFile() doesnt work :)
22:04.41maiacan anyone confirm the problem with PlaySoundFile() ?
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22:08.47*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ
22:09.17Temawesome...
22:09.24Temtoday fucking sucked
22:09.26CIA-1003maia * r3044 10Squishy/ (Squishy.toc core.lua developer-todo.txt roster.lua): Squishy: raid problems fixed, updated toc for 1.11
22:09.30Temand it's almost donw
22:09.32Temdone
22:09.36Temjust 2 more hours
22:09.49maiaSyzx: I just uploaded the 1.11 version, even though I didnt find a solution for PlaySoundFile()
22:10.07Temoh yay. wowace is down too
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22:13.48kergothhehe, the channel for the d language is 100% poltics, not D, today
22:14.27MoonWolfit happens.
22:15.00netcurseHey Moon
22:15.01netcursehow are you
22:15.06MoonWolffine
22:15.14MoonWolfmaking rounds before going to bed.
22:15.34netcursenice
22:15.40kergothnot just politics, but gun control
22:15.41kergoththis is fun
22:15.43MoonWolfhope you are all set for the hell that is going to be tommorow.
22:15.57netcurseyep
22:16.04netcursetomorow is the real patchday
22:16.07Tekkubthey nerfed texture/model replacement didn't they?
22:16.28MoonWolfthey did
22:16.29MoonWolfdamnit
22:16.37MoonWolfno more black dragonstalker
22:16.44Tekkubnote to slouken: the default lootFX are shit
22:17.44MoonWolfnight people
22:17.53Neronixnight
22:19.51maiaTekkub: found a bug in ProximityLib: in raids, the library doesnt return any data for your own pet
22:20.42ckknightback
22:21.24Tekkubyea maia, it doesn't track pets just normal units
22:21.34maiaew.
22:21.43TekkubI don't know if interact distance even works with pets
22:22.22CIA-1003ammo * r3045 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua:
22:22.22CIA-10BigWigs (C'Thun):
22:22.22CIA-10* It's getting old, but timer adjustments again, this time verified, and working, not touching phase 1 anymore.
22:22.22CIA-10* Fixed the group warning for dark glare it should be more accurate now.
22:22.22CIA-10* The offset into phase 2 is tested now and working as well. Couldn't get C'Thun weakened, so that rescheduling needs
22:22.24CIA-10<PROTECTED>
22:22.46[Ammo]had around 15 wipes on C'Thun :)
22:22.54[Ammo]lots of time to adjust code
22:22.59hyperChipmunkyou mean 'test cases'
22:23.03[Ammo]yeah
22:23.07[Ammo]put bugmount on follow
22:23.09[Ammo]alt-tab fix mod
22:23.10hyperChipmunk'whoops sorry guys'
22:23.12[Ammo]and reload :)
22:23.28[Ammo]well we got into phase 2 with 38 alive for the first time
22:23.30Makkhttp://www.deface.no/img/seal.png
22:23.52hyperChipmunkhehe
22:23.55maiaTekkub: planning to test it? Squishy pet support is a problem with ProximityLib not working for pets :)
22:24.17Tekkubnot right now, but sometime soon
22:24.23Tekkubor you can, it's not hard to do
22:24.34Tekkubyou'll only need to add the units to the iterator
22:24.48[Ammo]interactdistance works on pets
22:24.58[Ammo](since the cthunwarner beepbeep mod reports pets of others)
22:25.08[Ammo]and it uses interactdistance as well
22:25.11Kebinusanouch
22:25.40CIA-1003neronix 07Neronix * r3046 10Lexan-Ace2/ (Lexan.lua Lexan.toc):
22:25.41CIA-10Lexan (Ace2 conversion)
22:25.41CIA-10- Updated TOC for 1.11
22:25.41CIA-10- Updated TOC to work with GetAddonMetadata
22:25.41CIA-10- Added GetInstances
22:25.41CIA-10- Added metadata compatibility code for 1.10 clients
22:25.43CIA-10Ready to test!!
22:26.02KaeltenNeronix: are you coding with ace2 already?
22:26.26NeronixI'm just helpin to test it by creating a real-world example
22:26.34maiaTekkub: hmm, UpdateUnit() is already called for all units in self.vars.roster, which probably also includes pets, right?
22:27.32Tekkubno the roster is created from the iterator, the itorator doesn't handle pets
22:27.32Tekkubyou need to add pets to the iterator
22:28.22maiaTekkub: pets already are in - UnitIDIter() does not ignore pets
22:28.27KaeltenNeronix:  ah, its apprciated :)
22:28.41KaeltenNeronix:  is it working for you?
22:28.44Tekkubokey then I don't know
22:29.00maiaTekkub: well, I think it does work for other pets, but not for your own pet
22:29.03NeronixNo idea, login server's down
22:29.11Kaeltenlol
22:29.12maiaremember the problem with "player"?
22:29.18maiaguess it's the same for the pet
22:29.26[Ammo]european login servers were shut down at 0:00
22:30.01NeronixAnd it probably won't work immediately since I had to work out how to do things by reading each lib's code and stuff in the test suite
22:30.07Neronix[Ammo]: maintenance already?
22:30.18[Ammo]yeah
22:30.21Neronixk
22:30.23[Ammo]they announced login servers to be down
22:30.26[Ammo]for upgrades
22:30.32[Ammo]so if you logout you can't get back in
22:30.52CIA-1003neronix 07Neronix * r3047 10Lexan-Ace2/Lexan.lua: Lexan (Ace2 conversion) - Removed <1.11 compatibility code
22:30.56Tekkubpet is in the iter, it must not work then
22:31.01Syzxmaia: Thanks, I'm still on 1.10 here in Europe though ;-)
22:31.12Makkthey're speaking fucking danish on VT
22:31.13Makk:X
22:31.25NeronixCan someone test it please?
22:31.29Makkno
22:31.30Makk^^
22:31.35Neronix;_;
22:31.42MakkBecause *drumroll* you can't restart the game
22:31.55Neronixwell, I was looking for someone American
22:31.55Makk00:35:36 < [Ammo]> they announced login servers to be down
22:31.58Makk00:35:45 < [Ammo]> so if you logout you can't get back in
22:32.00Makkah
22:32.03Makkemericans
22:32.06Makkerr
22:32.08Makk>_>
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22:38.41maiaseems as if myBags doesn't support the keyring bag
22:38.52KaeltenI doubt any of them will at first
22:39.17maiaassumed the keyring bag is technically like the enchanting/ammo/ bags
22:39.34NeronixShigeru Miyamoto: "We're looking to push boundaries and attract new admirers. Women, girls… They're only the beginning."
22:39.39Kaeltenits probably an additional bag slot, isn't it?
22:39.41NeronixAnd then, we're going to Mississippi
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22:39.47Neronixand Alabama!
22:39.49NeronixAnd Idaho!
22:39.56Neronixand South Carolina
22:40.00Cairennyo, guys, getting an error with AceGUI:  \AceGUIElement.lua:44: 'KC_LinkviewFrameSortBoxTier2MenuRow12' has no child 'DisabledText'.
22:40.01NeronixAnd then the White House! YEARGH!
22:40.02kergoth15:46 < TrevorParscal> +void anger() { delete society[rand(0, society.length)]; }
22:40.19KaeltenCairenn:  I know but I need to get into game to test and fix those
22:40.31NeronixI'm surprised that nobody seems to get it
22:40.46Ratbert_CPAceGUI is hosed...  Buttons now have *one* fontstring, and three fonts.  (I think)
22:41.09Cairennfirst got it saying BulkMail, disabled it then got it said KCI ...
22:41.33Kaeltenya I need to fix a few things in AceGUI Cairenn
22:41.43Ratbert_CPCould even be BagBoy (although I *did* make AceGUI an optional dep)
22:41.54Cairennjust figured I'd let you know in case no one else had reported it yet
22:42.07Kaeltenbut until the login server is fixed I can't do much :s
22:42.22CairennI just logged in fine
22:42.56Kaelten:s its still not letting me in
22:43.03Ratbert_CPNor I...
22:43.13Cairennguess Blizz just hates you guys
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22:43.57Kaeltenwell I'll be back in a min, gotta go get me daughter
22:45.51maiaas for myBags - is this the recommended bags addon anyway? I've noticed quite a mem usage with open bags, and it hasnt been updated in the past months either. I might have missed the shiny new bag mod.
22:46.08CairennhyperChipmunk: in addition to the error message with AceGUI, I am also getting this error message with BulkMail (may be related): \BulkMail\BulkMail.lua:90: attempt to index field 'gui' (a nil value)
22:46.37Cairennmaia: check out bagnon
22:47.11hyperChipmunkthat's because there's no gui =x
22:47.19hyperChipmunkbecause AceGUI isn't there, so it can't load
22:48.17KebinusanI like engbags
22:48.23KyahxPlowKing!
22:48.25Kyahxhehe
22:48.51ckknightdo people want :print() or :Print()?
22:49.01gnorlishmaia: try bagnon
22:49.04ckknight:Print() is technically more consistent
22:49.15gnorlishupdated today with keyrings!
22:50.00maiawill do so. I lately reduced my addon usage to addons available on the wowace svn ;)
22:50.21gnorlishi have a couple that aren't from there
22:50.25gnorlishbagnon, superinspect
22:50.36Kyahxbongos :)
22:50.48IndustrialidActionBar
22:50.50Industrial:P
22:50.53gnorlishnatur enemy cast bar
22:51.21Industrialnoesssss
22:51.23ckknighthyperChipmunk, :print() or :Print()? note: there will also be a :PrintStatus()
22:51.25hyperChipmunkbongos, superinspect, and tinypad
22:51.25Industrialservers down
22:51.27Industrial:(
22:51.42Industrial(eu)
22:51.45hyperChipmunkwhat are we printing?
22:51.56ckknighttext
22:52.00ckknight:Print("zomg!"
22:52.02ckknight)
22:52.10MikmaIndustrial: nope
22:52.10Kyahxnot :msg("Zomg!")
22:52.11IndustrialI'd say printStatus
22:52.12Kyahx?
22:52.13hyperChipmunkboth
22:52.13Industrial:P
22:52.19Mikmai'm still inside EU
22:52.19KyahxI've never used print, haha
22:52.27IndustrialMikma: i cant login
22:52.34ckknight:PrintStatus('thingy', true)
22:52.41Mikmayou're not the only one, i was able moment ago
22:52.43hyperChipmunkI'll use print('foo') anyway
22:52.47hyperChipmunkif you want a special ace print
22:52.47ckknightwould print out "thingy is now set to On"
22:52.49Industrialok
22:52.49Mikmamy friend can't log in either
22:52.53hyperChipmunklike the acecmd.msg stuff
22:52.57hyperChipmunkmake it Print
22:53.06ckknightyea, this replaces self.cmd:msg
22:53.12maiackknight: I'd want a :debug that doesn't error if one of the strings is nil.
22:53.13ckknightit's just self:Print
22:53.21ckknightmaia, hush, you
22:53.37ckknightyea, gotta make AceDebug...
22:53.37Kyahxmaia: is the newest version of squishy working?  I heard there was some bugs with pets.
22:53.59maiaKyahx: yeah, the one I uploaded 40min ago should work for raids.
22:54.23Kyahxmmkay
22:54.56ckknightbtw, self:Print("alpha %s %s %s", 1, nil, 2) works.
22:55.10ckknightit'll actually print out "alpha 1 nil 2"
22:55.25maiackknight: so :debug will behave the same?
22:55.33Tekkubit better!
22:55.35ckknightI don't know, maia
22:55.45ckknightI haven't made AceDebug
22:55.54CIA-1003otravi 07otravi * r3048 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Fixed smoothbars not working on party and party member's pets.
22:55.59ckknightI'm making AceConsole now.
22:56.09maiaAceConsole?
22:56.09haste_console?
22:56.19ckknightyea, it's basically AceChatCmd
22:56.24ckknightonly with a more relevant name
22:57.00maiayay
22:57.12ckknightalso, shinier
22:57.12maiahopefully with less code duplication for dewdrop?
22:57.30ckknightcode duplication for dewdrop?
22:57.52ckknightit's likely I'll be making AceMenu
22:58.10maia:)
22:58.17ckknightwhich'll take the same table as AceCommand's RegisterInputCommand
22:58.23ckknighterr
22:58.26ckknightAceConsole*
22:58.36maiahmm, Bagnon is nice, but I'm missing scaling and the option to define the number of slots per line
22:59.07IndustrialOneBag
22:59.47maiagah, I just replaced myBags with Bagnon as everyone suggested it. Industrial, your suggestion is too late ;)
23:00.11Industrialy:p
23:00.28gnorlishbagnon has those options
23:01.11Neronixckknight: Are all the misc functions like ace.toggle and ace.round going to be in too?
23:01.19ckknightprolly not.
23:01.23maiagnorlish: only slash options are: help, bags, bank, overridebank, tooltips
23:01.32NeronixWhy?
23:01.35gnorlishright click on the top area of the actual bag
23:01.41ckknightbecause Ace no longer exists as an entity.
23:01.42gnorlishbut not on your name, to the right
23:02.12ckknightI'm sure if you made a library with those commands, people might use it
23:02.14NeronixSo what should be done instead? An AceMiscFuncs embed or something?
23:02.22NeronixYeah, I might go do that
23:02.23ckknightyep
23:02.32ckknightlibrary, not mixin
23:03.10ckknightbut that'd be a good idea, Neronix
23:03.28maiagnorlish: aah, thanks.
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23:04.47maiackknight: what about GetOpt, SetOpt, TogOpt, TogMsg, Report - I see them in nearly every ace addon
23:04.55ckknightnot anymore!
23:05.06ckknightdoesn't fit with the new database system
23:05.27ckknightthough you theoretically could put em in manually
23:05.42ckknightfunction self:GetOpt(key) return self.db.profile[key] end
23:05.49ckknightor what have you
23:05.55ckknightI'd prefer people to deal with it raw
23:06.04ckknightit's faster and often clearer
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23:08.14ckknightReport will probably be added in for you
23:09.11ckknightor more likely PrintReport()
23:09.59maiackknight: well, something that would replace self.cmd:status(text, self.db:toggle({self.profilePath}, var), MAP_ONOFF)  would be nice
23:11.10NeronixHmm, should it be called AceUtils rather than AceMiscFuncs, or would that cause confustion?
23:11.32Neronixactually, it won't be a bad idea
23:12.06maiaAceUtilsLib?
23:12.07NeronixAceUtils is currently the whole embed concept on crack
23:12.09ckknightself:PrintStatus('thingy', self.db.profile.thingy)
23:12.09ckknightdone.
23:12.18maianice
23:12.22ckknightNeronix, AceUtils.
23:12.32NeronixK
23:12.38ckknightif you don't provide a map to PrintStatus, and it's a boolean, it automatically goes to On/Off
23:12.38maiackknight: wait - self.db.profile.thingy will toggle?
23:12.51ckknightmaia, self.db.profile.thingy = not self.db.profile.thingy
23:12.55kergothhehe, my bro played on my shaman yesterday cause his account got comprimised an disabled.. apparently he took me from scout to sargeant already.  that was fast
23:13.10ckknighthow, kergoth?
23:13.17ckknightoh
23:13.21ckknightnvm
23:13.23ckknighthis account
23:13.26maiackknight: you're confusing me.
23:13.26ckknightnot yours
23:13.33ckknightmaia, self.db.profile.thingy gets a value
23:13.38ckknightthe thingy key of your profile
23:13.45ckknightself.db.profile.thingy = true
23:13.54maiackknight: ah, value = not value is a nice trick ;)
23:14.00ckknightself.db.profile.thingy = not self.db.profile.thingy
23:14.02ckknightzomg toggle
23:14.12ckknightit's clear, though, right?
23:14.26AmadeoI have two chat tabs, one is the typical chat page and one is made by me...whenever I log in, my tab is focused on the second tab every time
23:14.37Amadeois this a WoW bug, or a bug in idChat?
23:15.25Amadeostarted with 1.11
23:15.32maiackknight: yeah, it is. so value = not value will toggle between 1 and false? or is it true/false? or 1 and nil=
23:15.36maia...nil?
23:17.54Neronixtoggles between true and false
23:18.17NeronixJust tested that a few mins ago while I was thinking about ace.toggle
23:19.02Neronixturns out ace.toggle wasn't as good as it could've been
23:19.36NeronixIt's "if( val ) then return FALSE end; return true;" when it can just be "return not val;"
23:19.54Neronixs/return true/return TRUE;
23:20.06Neronixtrailing slash...
23:23.41ckknighttrue and false, maia
23:23.52ckknightAce2 will no longer use the TRUE/FALSE scheme
23:24.23hyperChipmunkI love how these symbols have compression artifacts
23:24.33hyperChipmunkthe raid markers
23:24.49ckknightTRUE/FALSE are no longer needed with AceDB2
23:24.56CIA-1003neronix * r3049 10/branches/AceUtils/: Created folder remotely
23:25.31ckknightNeronix, you should just need AceLibrary.lua
23:25.43ckknightit's in AceLibrary/ckknight/AceLibrary.lua
23:26.00Kaeltenback
23:26.05ckknighthey Kaelten
23:26.16maiaso when do you expect Ace2 to be ready? Is it now rather a matter of days or something like 3 weeks? Wondering if I should wait for Ace2 and convert Squishy to Ace2 before releasing it on wowi.
23:26.24CIA-1003neronix 07Neronix * r3050 10AceUtils/ (. API.txt AceUtils.toc Lib/ Lib/AceUtils.lua): AceUtils - Created branch. Will aim to include all the misc functions that were in Ace 1.x and the old AceUtils. Currently blank for now becuase I need sleep :P
23:26.46ckknightwe'll have an alpha soon
23:27.05Neronixckknight: I know. It's your branch I'm testing Lexan 2.0 with
23:27.06Kaeltenback
23:27.20ckknightyou already said back, Kaelten
23:27.27Kaeltenoh woops
23:28.14NeronixWell, actually I haven't been able to test yet because maintenance is starting in Eu
23:28.26ckknightokay
23:28.55Kaeltenwoot I can log in
23:29.52ckknightyea, I'm gonna do WoW testing for Ace2 now
23:30.07Amadeohey Kaelten
23:30.12AmadeoAceGUI isn't happy :(
23:31.04KaeltenAmadeo:  I know and am working on it now that I'm logged in
23:31.19Amadeo:)
23:31.20Amadeo<3
23:31.31Neronix`sleepnight
23:32.07Amadeonight Neronix
23:32.56Kaeltennight Neronix`sleep
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23:39.34TainFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
23:39.46hyperChipmunkhi middleclick
23:40.00Tain:)
23:40.04kergothi wish i'd stop trying to middle click paste in windows
23:40.09TainWord to me
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23:40.43TainHello RAID-5, goodbye lost music!
23:41.46kergothhooray
23:49.40CIA-1003ckknight 07ckknight * r3051 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon.lua AceDB.lua AceEvent.lua): Ace2 - fixed assorted bugs.
23:50.39ckknightAce2 now works in WoW :-)
23:53.17AmadeoSCT faction bugs are driving me NUTS!
23:53.20Kebinusanok totally needs to be a function to turn off these raid target icons
23:56.54Amadeois there an addon that totally supresses error message popups? that's what I want
23:57.10kergothiirc its errorredirect
23:57.13kergothi used to use it
23:58.07Amadeonice
23:58.13Amadeobecause SCT is popping stuff up every second in AV
23:58.23Amadeoand I don't need to see it, it works, just no faction scrolls
23:58.29hyperChipmunkbugsack is your friend
23:59.00kergothah yeah, actual lua errors rather than the red messages, those you want bugsack
23:59.14maiabugsack has no sound though in 1.11. I miss it.
23:59.55hyperChipmunkworms speech sounds ftw

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