00:00.10 | kergoth | ugh, i need to start bringing a bottle of excedrin tension headache to work |
00:00.12 | kergoth | not a good sign |
00:00.42 | cladhaire | whatcha working on kerg? |
00:00.59 | kergoth | ugly, ugly, ugly kernel code from a vendor |
00:01.11 | cladhaire | eew |
00:01.43 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
00:01.47 | kergoth | it's horrendous |
00:02.13 | [ven] | doesn't if( not UnitIsPlayer(unit) and UnitPlayerControlled(unit) ) work for pet checking? |
00:02.41 | *** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce5.disney.com) |
00:02.50 | cladhaire | eew |
00:02.54 | cladhaire | you'll be able to pull it out i hope? |
00:03.05 | kergoth | thats the plan, just hurts my head looking at it :P |
00:03.12 | cladhaire | hehe |
00:03.20 | cladhaire | do you have the prot documented, or do you have to pull it from the code? |
00:03.41 | Tekkub | I don't see one maia |
00:03.48 | kergoth | i just asked that myself, dont know yet. i really, really hope its the former :) |
00:04.13 | maia | Tekkub: yeah, there is nothing like UnitIsPet("raid23target") |
00:04.24 | maia | and UnitClass() returns stuff like WARRIOR for pets. |
00:04.39 | Tekkub | yea it returns Warrior for a lot of things |
00:04.57 | [ven] | didn't any of you read my line? ^^ |
00:05.15 | Tekkub | yea but I don't know if it works :P |
00:05.22 | Mikma | maia: UnitName("pet") ? |
00:05.59 | Tekkub | trying to discover if unitID's that don't contain "pet" are really pets... |
00:06.03 | Tekkub | IE targets |
00:06.14 | maia | Mikma: what if you don't have "pet" but unitids that are "...targettarget" |
00:06.22 | Mikma | TipBuddy has some lines for pets but don't know can it help you |
00:06.52 | maia | well, thanks anyway. I'll find a workaround. |
00:07.09 | maia | just thought wowwiki is incomplete |
00:11.04 | Kyahx | build a table of people with pets, and then use UnitIsUnit("raid32target","somethingInThePetTable") |
00:11.33 | Kyahx | ? |
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00:16.56 | cladhaire | Storm over Cair? |
00:17.01 | maia | Kyahx: yeah, thats possible. Just didnt want to have to build a table |
00:17.10 | Kyahx | understandable |
00:17.44 | Cairenn | at present, but they are predicting for them to continue off and on for a while yet |
00:30.48 | Mikma | cladhaire: now the alt+click won't work on my own frame (oUF2) :P |
00:33.14 | kergoth | heh, my bro's account got disabled cause someone got the password and got in |
00:33.27 | kergoth | now i get to fax them this form and a photocopy of my driver's license and shit to recover it |
00:33.31 | kergoth | fun fun |
00:34.16 | CIA-18 | 03maia * r2983 10Squishy/ (core.lua frames.lua roster.lua): Squishy: pet support now working properly (hopefully!) |
00:35.43 | cladhaire | Mikma: I dont know what you keep breaking |
00:35.47 | cladhaire | but i'll try to look at it some more this week |
00:35.59 | cladhaire | kergoth: Boo.. his WoW account? |
00:36.03 | mjc | maia: sorry that I didn't get 'round to it |
00:36.08 | maia | no worries |
00:36.09 | cladhaire | i'm suprised they don't need your birth cert =) |
00:37.30 | kergoth | cladhaire: under my name atm, since i'm paying and he's under age, was less hassle that way |
00:38.08 | cladhaire | understandable =) |
00:38.09 | cladhaire | same with my bro |
00:38.33 | kergoth | so now, since i'm at work, he's trying to get my main to blood guard |
00:38.35 | kergoth | hehe |
00:38.53 | cladhaire | haha |
00:39.14 | kergoth | i think its convinced him to roll a shaman, actually |
00:39.18 | mjc | heh |
00:39.21 | mjc | horde = meh |
00:40.04 | cladhaire | <3 my druid |
00:40.06 | cladhaire | made rank 10 |
00:40.08 | cladhaire | then topped out. |
00:40.38 | kergoth | pvp ranking sucks, impossible to do casually. should spend some time working on bg faction rep though, get some rewards |
00:41.19 | mjc | tome of the ice lord = woot |
00:41.40 | kergoth | hehe, http://cracki.incast-security.de/pub/geckosen1tor.hello.c is cute |
00:41.53 | kergoth | completely pointless and silly, but i'm easily amused |
00:42.08 | mjc | haha |
00:42.39 | cladhaire | hahah nice. |
00:42.55 | cladhaire | i was reading tdwtf archives today |
00:42.57 | cladhaire | made me smile |
00:44.00 | kergoth | hehe, http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/77862.aspx |
00:44.28 | cladhaire | hahah i loved that one. |
00:45.57 | Kyahx | gasp: I didnt list my mod as an Ace dependency when I uploaded to WoWI |
00:46.06 | Kyahx | It'll be placed in the wrong catagory =( |
00:48.37 | mjc | Ring of Fury doesn't have drop info meh |
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00:50.39 | Amadeo | Tekkub! Did you ever fix that GratuityLib bug that appears after you exit a BG? |
00:51.43 | Tekkub | don't think so ,and the bug isn't gratuity |
00:51.52 | Tekkub | it's probably SEAura |
00:52.06 | Amadeo | :( |
00:52.19 | Tekkub | *shrug* it's a minor error |
00:52.23 | Amadeo | it breaks all my addons |
00:52.26 | Amadeo | after a BG |
00:52.29 | Mikma | cladhaire: well the keybind's just don't work for some frames every now and then, just like now i can't alt+leftmouse on playerframe, nothing happens :P |
00:52.29 | Tekkub | since when? |
00:52.31 | Amadeo | well, FuBar addons |
00:52.43 | Tekkub | okey then it must not be the same error |
00:52.44 | Kyahx | Tekkub, I was meaning to talk to you about SE... :P |
00:52.56 | Tekkub | what about it? |
00:53.00 | cladhaire | doesn't alt-left move the frames? |
00:53.03 | Amadeo | Tekkub: I don't have the error message right now, but I'll have it again later...I've pasted it in here a few times though :D |
00:53.03 | cladhaire | and doesn't that still work? |
00:53.06 | cladhaire | hrm. |
00:53.10 | Kyahx | I really want to write a new raid tacker addon =/ I hate CT_RT |
00:53.19 | Kyahx | does SE have any special raid events? |
00:53.22 | Mikma | cladhaire: yes it does but it works on other frames |
00:53.31 | Tekkub | pasting it here doesn't do shit. put it on my portal if you want it to get on my todo list |
00:53.40 | Tekkub | raidtracker? |
00:53.47 | mjc | Kyahx: ditto |
00:54.00 | Kyahx | for tracking whos there, loot, people going afk, join / leaveing raids |
00:54.13 | Kyahx | who was part of certain boss kills, etc... |
00:54.14 | Tekkub | loot... FuBar GreedBeacon |
00:54.30 | Tekkub | as for the other shit, pulling a raid roster is fairly easy |
00:54.41 | Tekkub | tho slightly bugged till 1.11 |
00:54.57 | Tekkub | look at ProximityLib, it keeps a roster |
00:54.59 | Amadeo | Tekkub: It's already on your portal |
00:55.04 | mjc | be nice to have exoticmaterials work ;P |
00:55.06 | Kyahx | mmkay |
00:55.10 | Tekkub | okey then amad |
00:55.28 | Amadeo | I think it's the same one you're speaking of with SEAura |
00:55.37 | Amadeo | it just appears as GratuityLib? |
00:55.43 | Tekkub | tha shouldn't break Gratuity |
00:56.03 | Amadeo | but it only happens to me right after I've just finished a BG and I zone out |
00:56.05 | Tekkub | yes, I need to put in ckk's library assert so you can get the "real" error causer |
00:56.37 | Tekkub | Gratuity should re-owner it's tooltip when it needs it |
00:57.01 | Tekkub | and don't come back! |
00:57.06 | Amadeo | I know it breaks FuBar_QuestFu, not sure what else |
00:57.10 | Amadeo | have to check again |
00:57.18 | Tekkub | questfu uses gratuity? |
00:57.20 | Amadeo | er, QuestsFu |
00:57.30 | Amadeo | not sure, it's not in the folder |
00:57.48 | Tekkub | then prolly not |
00:57.56 | Tekkub | I don't think it's included in Fu core |
00:58.04 | Amadeo | maybe something else is causing the bug? |
00:58.28 | Tekkub | yea yea... I need to put in the error crap already |
00:58.35 | Tekkub | but my motivation is bluh |
00:58.44 | Tekkub | I have tomorrow off, we'll see what happens |
00:58.58 | Tekkub | gonna go veg in front of the TV for a few :) |
00:59.20 | Amadeo | hehe, take care man |
01:01.00 | Amadeo | I just can't live without your addons, otherwise I wouldn't bug you about it ;) |
01:01.11 | cladhaire | oh |
01:01.16 | cladhaire | taht's all we have to do to get rid of you? |
01:01.22 | cladhaire | is have tekkub stop releasing to you for a bit? |
01:01.29 | cladhaire | i didn't know it was so easy=) |
01:01.43 | Kyahx | :P |
01:01.49 | Amadeo | Tekkub always releases when I'm involved |
01:02.10 | mjc | you rock his boat eh |
01:02.25 | Amadeo | hahah |
01:02.45 | Amadeo | cladhaire loves me in disguise |
01:02.50 | Kaelten | wow http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/76850.aspx |
01:05.09 | cladhaire | lies |
01:05.19 | cladhaire | Kaelten: hehe |
01:05.19 | Amadeo | :) |
01:09.37 | ckknight | back |
01:10.02 | ckknight | yea, Neronix`sleep, Ace2 has a trojan that'll eat your brain |
01:12.55 | mjc | cladhaire: I <3 perfectraid |
01:13.00 | mjc | PRT is kind of icky though |
01:14.45 | cladhaire | sorry its buggy atm |
01:15.05 | mjc | it would be really nice if I could use PR for party frames too |
01:15.07 | mjc | instead of just raid |
01:16.40 | cladhaire | yeah i know |
01:16.47 | cladhaire | and i feel like i'm neglecting my users.. |
01:16.58 | cladhaire | but time has been a precious commodity lately |
01:22.11 | Kyahx | ~devtools |
01:22.13 | purl | methinks devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 |
01:22.21 | Kyahx | I should probley download that |
01:23.22 | cladhaire | my users are so patient with me |
01:23.24 | cladhaire | <3 them |
01:23.38 | cladhaire | of course it doesn't help that watchdog has been stable for quite some time |
01:24.58 | mjc | Uplink is bleh |
01:28.00 | Mikma | http://beta.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10871124&sid=1 |
01:29.27 | Mikma | http://beta.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10871124&pageNo=2 haha on the first blue reply |
01:29.40 | cladhaire | lol |
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01:36.14 | Tekkub | "A Tokyo police officer must travel to Paris to kill his daughter and her demonic fetus" <--- who was smoking what when they made this movie? |
01:36.32 | cladhaire | have you SEEN Snakes on a Plane? |
01:36.32 | cladhaire | lol |
01:36.45 | Tekkub | I don't wanna.... |
01:39.10 | Mikma | here's another nice feature of new forums: http://beta.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10681102&sid=1 (look at the last post on that page) |
01:39.45 | cladhaire | aye. |
01:39.48 | cladhaire | that and moving |
01:39.50 | cladhaire | very nice features. |
01:42.47 | ckknight_ | I implore the god of OO (who I still believe is also Gopala, protector of cows). Should I make subclasses inherit static methods? currently they do, I know how to easily make it not (so it acts like a normal OO scheme) |
01:42.58 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ |
01:44.28 | ckknight_ | Alpha = Class(); function Alpha:StaticMethod() print("thingy") end; Bravo = Class(Alpha) |
01:44.51 | ckknight_ | should Bravo:StaticMethod() exist or not? |
01:49.25 | Kaelten | ckknight_: static functions would be Bravo.StaticMethod() would it not? |
01:50.15 | ckknight_ | I guess |
01:50.28 | ckknight_ | I'm just talking about whether it should inherit static methods |
01:50.31 | ckknight_ | it's not "normal" |
01:50.40 | ckknight_ | Moonwolf said it was eeuuh yesterday |
01:50.51 | Kaelten | how do you define a static function compared to a normal function? |
01:51.05 | ckknight_ | function Alpha:StaticMethod() |
01:51.12 | ckknight_ | function Alpha.prototype:InstanceMethod() |
01:51.21 | Kaelten | ah |
01:51.30 | ckknight_ | Alpha:new():InstanceMethod() |
01:52.00 | ckknight_ | frankly, I'm gonna agree with Moonwolf and say that static methods shouldn't inherit |
01:52.12 | ckknight_ | just want to know how others feel |
01:52.28 | Kaelten | well then no they shouldn't inherit, because they aren't part of the prototype |
01:52.52 | ckknight_ | right |
01:53.04 | ckknight_ | it's a super easy change |
01:53.07 | Kaelten | can you do instance.class:StaticFunction() |
01:53.09 | Kaelten | ? |
01:53.12 | ckknight_ | yes. |
01:53.27 | Kaelten | k |
01:53.31 | ckknight_ | I don't really recommend it, though |
01:53.41 | Kaelten | I was just curious |
01:54.47 | ckknight_ | alright, now this way one class can override its new method without causing harm to its children |
01:55.54 | Kaelten | ok I'm stil leaning to AceAddon requiring AceEvents |
01:56.20 | Kaelten | and implicitly including it. does any devs here have any input on this? |
01:56.33 | cladhaire | every addon needs AceEvents |
01:56.36 | cladhaire | i dont know why it wouldn't be included. |
01:56.56 | ckknight_ | not every addon |
01:57.05 | ckknight_ | most |
01:57.07 | Kaelten | ckknight_ is leaning towards making it optional, but if its not present then AceAddon will work differently. |
01:57.20 | cladhaire | i would say that 70% of addons need to regieter for at least one event. |
01:57.30 | ckknight_ | what about the other 30%? |
01:57.32 | cladhaire | leaving it out saves you nothing. |
01:57.38 | cladhaire | which is an important point. |
01:57.46 | cladhaire | when the majority of addons need it. |
01:57.50 | ckknight_ | so why not include every single mixin available? |
01:57.57 | cladhaire | because they're not all 25 lines of code |
01:58.00 | hyperChipmunk | it's only a problem if no addons need it, correct? |
01:58.00 | cladhaire | and central to ALL addons |
01:58.02 | cladhaire | not all addons hook |
01:58.07 | cladhaire | almost every addon register for an event. |
01:58.10 | hyperChipmunk | I mean, only unnecessary |
01:58.15 | hyperChipmunk | if you have 10 ace addons |
01:58.15 | Kaelten | ckknight_: in the optional build will AceEvent be loaded up at all. |
01:58.17 | hyperChipmunk | one's bound to need it |
01:58.32 | Kaelten | ? |
01:58.32 | ckknight_ | Kaelten, it will, cause AceAddon proper uses it |
01:58.47 | ckknight_ | I just think that having it be explicit is better than implicit |
01:58.51 | Kaelten | then since its in memory whats gained by leaving it out of the standard interface? |
01:58.54 | cladhaire | for who? |
01:59.10 | hyperChipmunk | sounds like a good source of 'wtf' errors |
02:00.09 | hyperChipmunk | 'wuh, my addon can't handle events unless I say so? if I don't use ace, I can handle them without saying anything, why do I have to write code to activate it again?' |
02:00.26 | hyperChipmunk | 'wtf ace adds so much bloat, /delete' |
02:00.47 | ckknight_ | "omg, ace adds this for me even if I don't use it" |
02:00.54 | cladhaire | *sigh* |
02:00.59 | cladhaire | i won't get into this conversation again |
02:01.08 | clad|sleep | I'm off for the night folks. |
02:01.11 | clad|sleep | have a good evening. |
02:01.11 | hyperChipmunk | but ace uses it |
02:01.17 | hyperChipmunk | so it's loaded anyway |
02:01.33 | ckknight_ | yea? so I say again, why not load all available mixins? |
02:01.47 | clad|sleep | because they're not already loaded. |
02:01.48 | ckknight_ | if you implicitly load one |
02:01.49 | clad|sleep | its simple. |
02:02.03 | ckknight_ | and if they are? |
02:02.05 | hyperChipmunk | ace uses all mixins? |
02:02.28 | hyperChipmunk | I don't think anyone has any problem with just not using it if they don't want it |
02:02.46 | hyperChipmunk | it's not gonna make a difference in performance or memory usage |
02:03.00 | hyperChipmunk | I don't want to enable every API function when I use them |
02:03.21 | ckknight_ | how is an implicit programming model better than an explicit programming model? |
02:03.28 | hyperChipmunk | 'i'm only dealing with units, why is my addon allowed to use frame API' |
02:03.43 | hyperChipmunk | 'i should have to explicitly allow it to use frame functions' |
02:03.56 | hyperChipmunk | because ppl are moron |
02:04.17 | hyperChipmunk | there's no performance difference |
02:04.30 | hyperChipmunk | so don't make them deal with more than they have to |
02:04.50 | ckknight_ | what if I want to handle my own events? shouldn't I have the control? |
02:05.01 | ckknight_ | or if I don't use events |
02:05.07 | hyperChipmunk | then don't use ace events |
02:05.13 | hyperChipmunk | just do it the normal way |
02:05.17 | ckknight_ | right |
02:05.25 | ckknight_ | that's what people should be allowed to do |
02:05.27 | hyperChipmunk | ace is still using it |
02:05.37 | Kaelten | ok, here is my decision. |
02:05.39 | hyperChipmunk | so it isn't a problem making it available if they want it |
02:05.53 | hyperChipmunk | if they don't want it, they'll just use their own way |
02:06.11 | ckknight_ | you have to tell me how implicit programming is better than explicit programming? |
02:06.12 | Kaelten | In the spirit of keeping with the design philosphy for ace2 you'll have to include it explicitly like you would any other mixin |
02:06.24 | ckknight_ | alright |
02:06.37 | ckknight_ | implicit programming forces you to know things that are nonobvious |
02:06.42 | ckknight_ | that's my major beef with it |
02:06.45 | hyperChipmunk | explicit doesnt'? |
02:06.54 | ckknight_ | right, that's why it's explicit |
02:07.16 | ckknight_ | I think this all stems from the pythonic philosophy in my head |
02:07.29 | hyperChipmunk | how's someone going to intuitively guess that they need to write a specific line of code to allow them to use events |
02:07.44 | Kaelten | because we'll explain that in the headings |
02:07.48 | Kaelten | err documention |
02:07.59 | ckknight_ | I already made documentation, hyperChipmunk |
02:08.32 | ckknight_ | btw |
02:08.45 | hyperChipmunk | there are some that make sense to be in there by default, some that don't; I think anything that's a normal property of writing wow addons should be explicitly turned off, rather than on |
02:09.08 | ckknight_ | but that's not how the rest of the framework works |
02:09.23 | ckknight_ | I don't want AceEvent to be a fringe case |
02:09.38 | hyperChipmunk | I use string.find without loading the string library every time |
02:09.56 | ckknight_ | honestly, I personally think you should have to import the string namespace |
02:10.06 | hyperChipmunk | perhaps |
02:10.22 | Kebinusan | hmm |
02:10.31 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
02:10.32 | hyperChipmunk | but that's not consistent with the wow interface design conventions |
02:10.52 | ckknight_ | you don't have to use AceAddon to use the mixins |
02:11.10 | ckknight_ | if you want, you can make your own class that includes AceEvent, AceHook, AceDB |
02:11.13 | ckknight_ | and use that |
02:11.33 | hyperChipmunk | well, I'm working on a vastly ignorant sense of what Ace2 is |
02:11.41 | ckknight_ | hrm |
02:11.44 | hyperChipmunk | so I'm just talking from a 'user' perspective |
02:11.57 | ckknight_ | Ace2 is not Ace1 |
02:12.00 | Kaelten | it is a mixed perspective |
02:12.03 | hyperChipmunk | if I was writing code with Ace2 without studying it |
02:12.13 | ckknight_ | you'd probably read the tutorial |
02:12.29 | hyperChipmunk | like, using it as a tool, not caring about internal workings |
02:12.39 | ckknight_ | right. |
02:13.04 | snurre | meh, i need some php help |
02:13.10 | ckknight_ | hit me |
02:13.12 | hyperChipmunk | I wouldn't expect to have to load a whole thingy to do plugins; it would seem that I'm just bloating it, and will use the regular event handling interface |
02:13.21 | snurre | sec, lemme get a pastebin for you |
02:13.22 | hyperChipmunk | s/plugins/events/ |
02:14.03 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: I think once you see ace2 in action you may end up liking it. |
02:14.09 | hyperChipmunk | oh I don't doubt it |
02:14.13 | hyperChipmunk | and I trust your decisions |
02:14.18 | ckknight_ | hyperChipmunk, as an aside, could you read my tutorials? |
02:14.22 | ckknight_ | I want feedback |
02:14.22 | hyperChipmunk | I'm just trying to offer a different perspective |
02:14.30 | Kaelten | and its appriciated :) |
02:14.31 | ckknight_ | I do get that |
02:14.34 | hyperChipmunk | I did the same when ckknight was writing fubar |
02:14.41 | hyperChipmunk | I think it was for the better |
02:14.57 | Kaelten | part of our ideas come from the fact thatt is more than one way to do some things, like AceDB |
02:15.27 | snurre | http://pastebin.ca/67487 <-- for some reason it wont loop through the array $test the second time around.. seems reset() has no function :/ |
02:15.35 | ckknight | the system as it stands now, you could swap in your own database mixin if you want, no harm, no foul |
02:15.50 | Kaelten | One author may want to use one type of Db class where someone else might want to use a different type |
02:15.59 | Kaelten | same with any other part of it all |
02:16.34 | ckknight | snurre, omg complicated. been to long, ask in #php |
02:16.41 | snurre | meh |
02:16.44 | ckknight | too* |
02:17.32 | Kaelten | ckknight: where did you stick the documentation at? |
02:17.49 | ckknight | Examples folder in the acelibrary branch |
02:18.25 | Mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/AceLibrary/Examples/ |
02:18.37 | Kaelten | also are the classes you've been using ready for use in wow? |
02:18.50 | ckknight | in theory |
02:19.03 | ckknight | I still need to add interfaces to mixins |
02:19.11 | ckknight | then I'll be satisfied with AceOO |
02:19.56 | ckknight | e.g. I want a Barker mixin that inherits from IBarkable |
02:20.23 | Kaelten | eta on that? |
02:23.25 | ckknight | um, an hour? |
02:23.35 | Kaelten | lol |
02:23.37 | Kaelten | k |
02:23.45 | Kaelten | I forget you have too much free time |
02:23.46 | ckknight | mmm... cookie |
02:23.56 | ckknight | I went job searching earlier today |
02:24.08 | ckknight | apparently it's what I'm supposed to do in modern society |
02:25.15 | Kaelten | heh |
02:25.19 | Kaelten | if I didn't have to I wouldn't |
02:25.32 | Kaelten | I would find a way to make money doing something I enjoy. |
02:25.37 | ckknight | it's apparently to get in contact with real people |
02:25.54 | Mikma | ok Neo |
02:26.14 | Kaelten | real people or overrated I see them every day. |
02:26.39 | ckknight | Neo? |
02:27.05 | ckknight | I r teh 1, lol |
02:27.15 | Mikma | yeah, real people just reminded me of Matrix suddenly |
02:27.55 | ckknight | Es gibt kein Löffel |
02:28.51 | ckknight | that's one phrase I remember in German |
02:28.58 | ckknight | means "There is no spoon" |
02:29.33 | Mikma | löffel, i'll name my next char that :D |
02:30.06 | Mikma | but propable the best word in german is Lederhosen |
02:30.12 | snurre | wee i solved my php problem :p |
02:30.20 | snurre | foreach() > each() :p |
02:31.10 | ckknight | ah |
02:50.51 | Tekkub | joy, they fucked with DKP even more in my guild... |
02:51.36 | Tekkub | you can now earn it if you sign up but the raid is full and you sit on your ass outside the instance the whole time... while also on teamspeak and acknowledging you're still on your ass after every boss kill |
02:52.04 | hyperChipmunk | ownage |
02:52.04 | Tekkub | AND there's now a 20% DKP decay if you miss 4 raids.. IE you have to raid like once a week minimum |
02:52.23 | Tekkub | I hope my negative DKP decays too... |
02:52.27 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
02:52.33 | Tekkub | god that makes me want to not raid now |
02:52.39 | Kyahx | =/ |
02:52.58 | Kyahx | once a week isnt that bad thou |
02:52.59 | Tekkub | like, I cannot commit to anything, I don't even know my week's scheduled till monday |
02:53.10 | hyperChipmunk | I had DKP decay in my old system; it contributed to the zero-sum, iirc |
02:53.19 | Tekkub | yea but some weeks I can't do any raids Kyahx |
02:53.28 | hyperChipmunk | it was very little though |
02:53.30 | hyperChipmunk | 20% is harsh |
02:53.37 | Tekkub | 20 is very harsh |
02:53.48 | Tekkub | in a month's absence you'd loose all your DKP |
02:54.12 | Kebinusan | wow that is rough |
02:54.50 | Tekkub | plus it really doesn't solve any problems |
02:54.53 | Kebinusan | <-- having fun with double nullifier pull because someone wasnt following the MA |
02:55.15 | Tekkub | the people that "need" to lose DKP are the ones that attend every raid and are fully equipped... they got like 400+ |
02:55.22 | Tekkub | set items cost 25 |
02:55.41 | Kebinusan | yea, you need a cap type loss not an attendance based one |
02:55.55 | Tekkub | exactly |
02:56.05 | Tekkub | plus each run nets in about 15 DKP |
03:01.25 | Kebinusan | wow thats alot earned vs spent |
03:02.03 | Tekkub | yea this is why I am trying to get them to push 0-sum |
03:02.14 | Tekkub | DKP in the guild is badly inflated |
03:02.37 | Tekkub | the biggest issue is that MC runs really only bring in gear for the new, non-regular people |
03:02.57 | Tekkub | all the people that are there all the time are very well equipped |
03:03.05 | Kebinusan | yeah that sucks, hard to get the peopel who benefit from it to desire change |
03:03.23 | Kebinusan | yeah familiar with that problem, you earn more dkp in mc than you do in bwl from bringing newbs and alts |
03:03.24 | Tekkub | yea... |
03:03.33 | Tekkub | I need a new guild/server/class badly |
03:03.38 | Tekkub | someone please save me |
03:03.52 | Tekkub | and I need someone to level with me too :) |
03:04.52 | hyperChipmunk | would you like fries with that? |
03:05.18 | Kebinusan | wait for paid server transfers we could always use a lua bitch |
03:05.21 | Kebinusan | :-) |
03:05.34 | Tekkub | I don't want to transfer my toon |
03:05.38 | Tekkub | I want a healer |
03:05.52 | Tekkub | I only took hunter for the free bear |
03:06.01 | Kebinusan | ah |
03:06.24 | mjc | Tekkub: any plans to fix uplink? |
03:06.39 | Tekkub | no, it's gonna be unneeded come 1.11 |
03:06.45 | mjc | yeah |
03:06.52 | Tekkub | and uh... it's fixd locally :) |
03:07.06 | Tekkub | I don't know why self wasn't getting passed, but it was easily fixed |
03:07.13 | mjc | the function that it calls on line 44 doesn't exist |
03:07.16 | mjc | ;P |
03:07.31 | Tekkub | yea it does, self wasn't getting passed |
03:07.41 | Tekkub | the error is attempt to index 'self' a nil |
03:07.57 | Tekkub | change that self to Uplink and it works fine |
03:10.48 | Kebinusan | slowly converting my guildmates to ace mods is fun |
03:11.39 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2984 10AceLibrary/ (AceDB.lua AceOO.lua): |
03:11.39 | CIA-18 | AceOO - internals changed slightly. |
03:11.39 | CIA-18 | Mixins can now inherit from interfaces, which are passed on to the classes who inherit. |
03:12.02 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2985 10AceLibrary/ (AceOO-Mixin-3.lua AceOO-Mixin-4.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceOO-Mixin-3.lua and AceOO-Mixin-4.lua |
03:12.03 | ckknight | alright |
03:12.17 | ckknight | if I'm not mistaken, we now have a full-featured OO framework. |
03:13.11 | ckknight | with classes, interfaces, and mixins |
03:13.15 | ckknight | and all happy with each other |
03:14.42 | ckknight | :-) |
03:14.44 | Kyahx | if table.key[val] = 1 then self:dostuff() end <-- that should work right? |
03:14.51 | ckknight | nope. |
03:15.11 | ckknight | cannot assign a value in the middle of an if statement |
03:15.29 | Kyahx | s/=/== |
03:15.35 | ckknight | okay |
03:15.36 | ckknight | yes, then |
03:15.37 | Kyahx | the table.key[val] part is what im asking about |
03:15.39 | Kebinusan | btw doing trash pulls in windowed mode is hot |
03:15.40 | Kyahx | kk |
03:16.12 | hyperChipmunk | having a second monitor is hotter |
03:16.28 | Kebinusan | yes that would be |
03:16.54 | hyperChipmunk | MC is when I write most of my code |
03:16.59 | hyperChipmunk | and between BG matches |
03:17.38 | hyperChipmunk | nice thing running under wine, too, is that you never lose the sound effects |
03:20.55 | ckknight | woot: I did a very shiny advancement to AceDB's defaults system |
03:22.12 | ckknight | if your char defaults is { ["."] = true }, then self.db.char.<key> == true |
03:22.21 | ckknight | where <key> is any value |
03:22.35 | ckknight | it works for tables, too |
03:23.41 | hyperChipmunk | shoulda made it * |
03:23.45 | ckknight | hrm |
03:23.45 | ckknight | okay |
03:23.47 | ckknight | works for me |
03:23.50 | ckknight | ["*"] |
03:23.54 | hyperChipmunk | I do that sometimes, actually |
03:24.06 | hyperChipmunk | just by accident |
03:24.18 | hyperChipmunk | my brain types table.* = foo |
03:24.26 | ckknight | basically, you now can set a default value for the whole table |
03:24.42 | ckknight | which can be very handy |
03:24.47 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
03:25.01 | hyperChipmunk | like I said, I've actually tried doign it before =) |
03:25.17 | hyperChipmunk | that's awesome |
03:25.30 | mjc | we're using bigwigs and ora_bigwigs for ZG atm |
03:25.42 | ckknight | see, hyperChipmunk, I knew you'd like Ace2 ;-) |
03:25.56 | hyperChipmunk | I never doubted that for a minute |
03:27.37 | hyperChipmunk | now the next question |
03:28.08 | hyperChipmunk | foo.*.bar=baz |
03:28.17 | hyperChipmunk | great for unitframes, off the top of my head |
03:28.27 | ckknight | { foo = { ["*"] = { bar = baz } } } |
03:28.34 | hyperChipmunk | myunitframes.*.alpha=0.5 |
03:28.39 | ckknight | and yes, it's intelligent |
03:28.52 | ckknight | so a new table is made every time |
03:29.00 | ckknight | but only on first access |
03:29.00 | hyperChipmunk | to make all your frames alpha = 0.5 |
03:29.03 | ckknight | right |
03:29.15 | ckknight | it's fully available, chip |
03:29.31 | hyperChipmunk | beauty, eh |
03:29.32 | mjc | PerfectRaid needs to show DI's |
03:29.39 | hyperChipmunk | it does |
03:29.42 | hyperChipmunk | wait |
03:29.44 | hyperChipmunk | no it doesn't |
03:29.44 | ckknight | { myunitframes = { [*] = { alpha = 0.5 } } } |
03:30.51 | hyperChipmunk | what about CastSpellByName("Remove Curse", raid.*) |
03:31.05 | Kyahx | I've attempted to start work on a new Raid Track mod. I have it auto-tracking loot atleast :P thats a first step |
03:31.09 | hyperChipmunk | i.e. will it heal my raid for me? |
03:31.21 | ckknight | sadly, no |
03:31.27 | Kyahx | sadly no indeed =/ |
03:31.38 | ckknight | err, { myunitframes = { ['*'] = { alpha = 0.5 } } } |
03:31.39 | hyperChipmunk | then it isn't finished yet |
03:31.44 | ckknight | the quotes are important |
03:31.49 | hyperChipmunk | ya, I caught that |
03:31.52 | hyperChipmunk | I knew what you meant |
03:36.11 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2986 10AceLibrary/AceDB.lua: AceDB - now can use ["*"] as a defaults key to mean all keys. |
03:36.43 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2987 10AceLibrary/ (AceDB-defaults-3.lua AceDB-defaults-4.lua): Ace2/TestSuite - added AceDB-defaults-3.lua and AceDB-defaults-4.lua |
03:36.56 | ckknight | :-) |
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03:52.41 | Thiana | <PROTECTED> |
03:56.58 | mjc | me |
03:57.13 | mjc | #1 on the dps meter as usual with shitty gear :D |
03:57.29 | mjc | what do you need? |
03:57.35 | mjc | Thiana, that is |
03:57.57 | Thiana | Can you tell me what the exact name of the pick lock skill is in the skill window please? |
04:03.51 | hyperChipmunk | I think it's just Pick Lock |
04:04.03 | Kebinusan | hmm seems the Unit affecting combat scan to start the c'thun mod was taken out, so it throws peoples timers out of whack if they dont see the initial eye beam event in the combat log |
04:04.05 | hyperChipmunk | that's what the skill is called |
04:04.39 | FryGuy | does the c'thun mod use the sync? |
04:05.02 | Kebinusan | doesnt look like the latest svn does |
04:05.17 | Kebinusan | it definately should though or do the unit affecting combat scan |
04:05.37 | Thiana | It's apparently something else in the skill window though hC :/ I have Pick Lock and it's not working apparently. So I'm guessing it's Lock Picking, or Lockpicking, or some such? |
04:14.24 | hyperChipmunk | check globalstrings.lua |
04:15.42 | Tekkub | oh I had a kickass idea for one of the AQ20 modules |
04:15.59 | Tekkub | Oruo is it? the bug with the eggs you blow up on him... |
04:16.13 | Tekkub | send sync messages when the eggs are at 10% life |
04:16.24 | Tekkub | maybe have an option to set the % |
04:18.02 | hyperChipmunk | no |
04:18.11 | hyperChipmunk | um, something the Gorger |
04:18.28 | hyperChipmunk | Buru |
04:18.32 | hyperChipmunk | Buru the Gorger |
04:18.37 | Tekkub | yea that's it |
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04:21.14 | Thiana | hC: globalstrings.lua? |
04:23.15 | Kyahx | Tekkub: it would be nice during the Rajaxx fight if someone was targetting the general, and his HP was low to send a heal message. |
04:23.52 | Kyahx | ** General Andorov needs food badly ** |
04:24.01 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
04:24.16 | Thiana | ~poke hyperChipmunk |
04:24.22 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind hyperChipmunk, pokes hyperChipmunk repeatedly, hilarity ensues |
04:24.22 | Tekkub | yea that could be a good thing to add |
04:24.28 | Kyahx | the whole BigWigs sync thing could do some cool stuff CT never could even think of doing :P |
04:24.31 | Tekkub | we did our first time keeping him up finally |
04:24.36 | hyperChipmunk | er, in the FrameXML dir |
04:24.41 | Tekkub | and he broke and ran away |
04:24.58 | Kyahx | nice |
04:25.02 | Tekkub | yea |
04:25.03 | Kebinusan | yeah c'thun definately needs some sync code |
04:25.05 | hyperChipmunk | has all the interface strings |
04:25.30 | Kebinusan | you dont get weakened emotes when in the stomach so timers dont get reset, plus the timers dont properly start when the first person enters combat, so everyones timers are a little bit off |
04:25.36 | Tekkub | who wrote the AQ20 modules.. .we need to whine at him to do this |
04:25.39 | Kebinusan | makin notes |
04:25.40 | hyperChipmunk | and you can use the variable instead of the string itself, so you localize automatically |
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04:26.08 | Tekkub | you know... |
04:26.15 | Thiana | Doesnt look like any spells/skills are in that file. Just generic interface stuff. |
04:26.22 | Tekkub | I want to get some work on BW core done tomorrow if maint allows it |
04:26.35 | Tekkub | I want to get a beta up so we can con more people into using this |
04:26.45 | hyperChipmunk | which is what you're looking for |
04:26.48 | Kebinusan | sounds cool |
04:26.57 | Tekkub | at least make it easier for the Devs to get their guilds using it |
04:26.57 | Kyahx | a beta version worthy of WoWI posting? |
04:26.59 | Kebinusan | Im /combatlogging this c'thun fight so I have something to work off of |
04:27.27 | Kebinusan | I think most of the boss mods need to be re-written with some kind of sync code so that timer bars fire properly |
04:27.34 | Thiana | No... I need the skill name the client uses. |
04:28.07 | Thiana | [/netfs/wow/pluto/Blizzard Interface Data/FrameXML]$ grep -i lock GlobalStrings.lua | grep -i pick |
04:28.07 | Thiana | OPTION_TOOLTIP_LOCK_ACTIONBAR = "Prevents the user from picking up/dragging spells on the action bar. This function can be bound to a function key in the keybindings interface."; |
04:28.21 | Thiana | Nothing about lockpicking :( |
04:28.23 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?sp=1804 |
04:29.00 | Thiana | Thanks :) 'Lockpicking' apparently. |
04:33.27 | CIA-18 | 03thiana * r2988 10BabbleLib/Spell/BabbleLib-Spell.lua: BabbleLib-Spell: Added 'Lockpicking', needs de/fr/zh/etc translations though. |
04:35.38 | mjc | Thiana: http://www.canoo.net/services/Controller?dispatch=inflection&input=Dietrich&features=(Cat+N)&lang=en |
04:35.48 | mjc | there's the german translation :P |
04:36.28 | Thiana | Umm, which form on that page? ;) |
04:36.54 | Kaelten | night guys |
04:36.56 | Tain | The addon EasyUnlock has localizations around lockpicking, you might be able to pull from there. |
04:37.17 | Thiana | Oh, thanks Tain :) |
04:37.35 | Kyahx | I wonder if I should toss my branch of AceHeal onto WoWI, it hasnt been updated since Thristerhall's release. |
04:38.33 | mjc | why not |
04:39.47 | Kyahx | indeed, current one is stable enough. May as well upload it before I tear it apart. :P |
04:41.14 | CIA-18 | 03thiana * r2989 10BabbleLib/Spell/BabbleLib-Spell.lua: BabbleLib-Spell: Added DE translation for 'Lockpicking' from EasyUnlock addon. |
04:47.35 | Kyahx | WoWace.com down for anyone else? |
04:52.12 | hyperChipmunk | goodnight, losers whom I've always hated |
04:53.11 | CIA-18 | 03kyahx 07Kyahx * r2990 10AceHeal/AceHeal/ (. Changelog.txt Documentation.txt Locals/AceHealLocals.lua): |
04:53.11 | CIA-18 | AceHeal:R12kx03b |
04:53.11 | CIA-18 | <PROTECTED> |
04:53.30 | kergoth | the 11000 releases have started i see |
04:53.34 | Kyahx | woot for misspellings :P |
04:53.40 | Kyahx | thats not really a 11000 release |
04:53.59 | Kyahx | just comming what I have now before I tear it apart to try and add BabbleLib in |
04:54.13 | Cairenn | some of them have, yes kergoth |
04:54.25 | Cairenn | Iriel's stuff is all updated on WoWI |
04:54.30 | sedatedChipmunk | isn't 11000 the current one? |
04:54.56 | kergoth | sedatedChipmunk, 11000 is 1.11, the one coming out tomorrow |
04:55.11 | Cairenn | no, 11100 |
04:55.12 | sedatedChipmunk | no, 11000 is 1.10, I'm pretty sure |
04:55.23 | Thiana | Is 1.11 confirmed for tomorrow then? |
04:55.33 | Cairenn | yes |
04:55.48 | kergoth | oh, right, helps if i get it correct :) |
04:55.56 | Cairenn | it's been confirmed and in the subject line of the lounge for hours now |
04:56.03 | sedatedChipmunk | [staharaj@hyperion]$ grep Interface FrameXML.old/FrameXML.toc |
04:56.03 | sedatedChipmunk | ## Interface: 11000 |
04:56.23 | kergoth | yes, chipmunk, i was incorrect, the new one is 11100, as cair said |
04:56.27 | kergoth | you have a box named hyperion too? |
04:56.32 | kergoth | my fileserver is that |
04:56.47 | sedatedChipmunk | all my boxes are titans |
04:57.05 | kergoth | mine are all book references. hyperion after the 4 book series, hyperion, endymion, etc |
04:57.22 | kergoth | this box is crydee, from the krondor books |
04:57.29 | kergoth | kergoth.com is covenant, from thomas covenant the unbeliever |
04:58.04 | sedatedChipmunk | ah, mine are Hyperion, Prometheus, Mnemosyne, etc. |
04:58.19 | kergoth | nod, cool |
04:58.32 | Thiana | Mine are pluto, minerva, vulcan, mars, juno, janus, jupiter |
04:58.56 | sedatedChipmunk | Romans >8p |
04:59.06 | Thiana | Yes :) |
05:00.02 | kergoth | hmm, i need to name one after something from the song of ice and fire series |
05:08.37 | kergoth | my poor cpu just hit 83 degrees celcius |
05:08.59 | kergoth | tiny shuttle box, athlon 64, in a hotel room with a broken air conditioner, in arizona, in june = b00m |
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05:26.07 | Kyahx | allright, its bed time. GL with the patch tomarrow everyone |
05:27.04 | Tekkub | patch day tomorrow they say |
05:27.23 | Kebinusan | aye |
05:30.49 | ckknight_ | I have driven a van! |
05:34.35 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2991 10AceLibrary/ (AceLibraryBase.lua AceLocale.lua): |
05:34.35 | CIA-18 | AceLibraryBase - split into AceLibraryBase and AceLibraryBaseClass (requires AceOO) |
05:34.35 | CIA-18 | Only requires AceOO if you use AceLibraryBaseClass now. |
05:35.11 | Kebinusan | the tentacle respawn after weakenings is off too, but yay c'thun dead |
05:35.17 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2992 10AceLibrary/ (7 files): Ace2/TestSuite - changed AceLibraryBase unit tests for new API |
05:36.12 | haste_ | good morning |
05:36.54 | ckknight | morning |
05:36.59 | Kebinusan | mornin |
05:44.41 | ckknight | you know what's awesome? |
05:44.43 | ckknight | bagels. |
05:51.57 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2993 10AceLibrary/AceAddon.lua: |
05:51.57 | CIA-18 | AceAddon - instances not inheriting from AceEvent now get their OnEnable() fired for them on PLAYER_LOGIN. |
05:51.58 | CIA-18 | Note: this also happily decouples AceAddon from a hard tying with AceEvent. |
05:53.38 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2994 10AceLibrary/AceAddon-4.lua: Ace2/TestSuite - added AceAddon-4.lua |
05:57.33 | Kebinusan | indeed |
05:57.41 | Kebinusan | everything bagels |
05:58.05 | ckknight | yes |
05:58.09 | ckknight | bagels ftw |
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06:08.57 | ckknight | hey Wobin |
06:09.53 | ckknight | should I work on AceOptions, thus completing the last piece of the Ace2 puzzle or leave it to someone else? |
06:10.40 | Wobin | Is it assigned to anyone atm? |
06:10.52 | ckknight | I don't think anyone has claimed it |
06:14.18 | Wobin | Go for it |
06:15.23 | ckknight | if I do this, it means my grubby little fingers have meddled with every single part of Ace2 |
06:16.16 | ckknight | s/have/will have/ |
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06:27.12 | Wobin | That's not a bad thing, though |
06:27.42 | ckknight | yea |
06:27.49 | ckknight | I suppose |
06:28.17 | ckknight | not a single line of AceLibrary is the same as it was when I started |
06:28.25 | ckknight | and most of AceOO has been altered |
06:28.39 | ckknight | one thing I haven't overly meddled with is AceHook |
06:29.06 | MoonWolf | most likely because it has been worked on it so much. |
06:29.31 | Kebinusan | ho humm |
06:30.16 | ckknight | I'm writing the Coins example for Ace2 now |
06:32.24 | Kebinusan | arg this is so annoying, monster emotes dont appear in the combat log |
06:32.57 | ckknight | wouldn't it be in ChatFrame1? |
06:33.37 | Kebinusan | yea, but Im sorta doing this after the fact |
06:33.56 | MoonWolf | system message controll tool ftw. |
06:34.01 | CIA-18 | 03elkano * r2995 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua: GloryLib: changed IsInBattlegrounds() to use MiniMapBattlefieldFrame.status instead of zone name. The function will now return the correct value when PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fires |
06:34.09 | ckknight | thanks Elkano |
06:34.58 | Elkano | well, I just noticed that I didn't commit ^^' |
06:35.10 | ckknight | anyone know where Coins for Ace1.3 is? |
06:35.44 | ckknight | or what it does |
06:35.45 | haste_ | in the ace developement package |
06:35.51 | haste_ | no idea what it does :p |
06:36.10 | MoonWolf | i forgot what it did |
06:36.10 | MoonWolf | something to do with money |
06:36.20 | MoonWolf | counting money differences after transactions perhaps. |
06:36.45 | Elkano | ckknight, I'll remove the metrognome timer for the map from HonorFu since it's no longer needed :) |
06:36.51 | ckknight | k |
06:37.01 | Elkano | MoonWolf, found time to have a look? |
06:37.11 | MoonWolf | not yet |
06:37.14 | MoonWolf | when i get home |
06:37.15 | MoonWolf | again |
06:37.27 | MoonWolf | i blame my brothers birthday |
06:38.45 | haste_ | I'm going to sleep a little, hopefully I get a idea about how I can solve the little dewdrop issue ;D |
06:39.04 | ckknight | issue? |
06:39.29 | haste_ | I want one menu, for several addons |
06:39.34 | Elkano | btw: will 1.11 be released today in US? |
06:39.37 | haste_ | and not hard code it |
06:39.43 | ckknight | yes |
06:40.21 | Elkano | ok, so I'll have a lot of 'fun' tomorrow ;) |
06:40.28 | ckknight | ugh |
06:40.38 | ckknight | people are gonna bitch saying FuBar is out of date |
06:40.47 | ckknight | I won't disagree with em :-P |
06:41.29 | MoonWolf | hehe |
06:41.32 | weab | my bosspanel is out of date! |
06:41.38 | haste_ | haha |
06:41.39 | MoonWolf | load out of date addons people |
06:41.43 | MoonWolf | that check is your friend. |
06:42.00 | haste_ | I blame blizzard for putting a scary note on it |
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06:43.32 | ckknight | nah, I'll leave it out of date till FuBar 2.0 likely |
06:47.12 | Elkano | btw: if anyone of you using one of my addons finds a bug today, I'll try to fix it... but I won't be able to test myself until tomorrow |
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06:48.48 | ckknight | hey maia |
06:48.59 | maia | heya :) |
06:49.25 | MoonWolf | hello |
06:59.47 | Neronix`sleep | ckknight: I've got Coins and a commented template here if you still need them |
06:59.55 | ckknight | I got coins |
07:00.02 | ckknight | decided it was too complicated. |
07:00.04 | ckknight | :-P |
07:00.20 | Neronix | Well, this template's an order of magnitude simpler |
07:00.28 | ckknight | hrm |
07:00.29 | ckknight | okay |
07:00.36 | ckknight | email it to my gmail, I guess |
07:00.54 | ckknight | ah |
07:00.57 | ckknight | tricksy. |
07:01.01 | Neronix | :P |
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07:05.18 | ckknight | okay, there should be a proper AceConsole |
07:05.27 | ckknight | which is similar to the current AceChatCmd |
07:05.57 | ckknight | hrm |
07:06.07 | ckknight | should it be a library or a mixin? |
07:06.41 | ckknight | hrm, you do want it to be personalized to the addon... |
07:08.09 | Wobin | maia: Would it be possible with Squishy that we get an indicator if someone dies? |
07:09.03 | maia | Wobin: indicator? doesnt it say "xy dies." in the chat? |
07:09.19 | Wobin | well. yes it does, but -that- can easily get lost in the spam |
07:09.25 | Wobin | I mean the bar on squishy |
07:10.01 | Wobin | like have it white out, momentarily or something |
07:10.17 | Wobin | at the moment, it just disappears, and I don't know if they're dead, or if they just got uberhealed |
07:11.25 | maia | well, but the chat says if someone dies if I remember correctly. wouldnt that only duplicate available information? |
07:12.52 | Wobin | Well you could equally say Blizzard's raid frames show everyone's health, so isn't Squishy a duplication of information? |
07:13.33 | Wobin | When I'm healing, I'm not looking at the chatframe for death messages that can scroll off in the raidspam that occurs |
07:14.13 | Wobin | I'm too busy watching my heals and other's heals and everyone's health on squishy and HA et al |
07:14.34 | maia | i see |
07:14.48 | Wobin | just having the bar do -something- aside from just disappear would help out a lot in recognition of the death |
07:15.20 | maia | well, I guess it's easiest to use the message frame in the lower part of the Squishy frame |
07:15.22 | Wobin | Just to clear up the difference between them being dead or if someone critt'd a heal at the last minute |
07:15.38 | Wobin | I don't have the screen real estate to do that |
07:15.55 | maia | it has the height of a single bar? |
07:16.11 | Wobin | which message frame? |
07:16.29 | maia | between the 10th bar and the border of the squishy frame. |
07:16.47 | maia | the footer, which has the same size as the header saying "Squishy Emergency" |
07:16.56 | maia | it can be used for messaging |
07:17.21 | weab | squishy is just an emergency monitor? |
07:17.30 | maia | on steroids. yes |
07:17.47 | weab | why do you need to know if they died for squishy's purpose then |
07:18.00 | weab | either they died or got healed, either way, you dont have to worry about them anymore |
07:18.02 | Wobin | To shout out for a combat res |
07:18.27 | weab | i'd figure the dead person would ask for that and probably know they're dead :P |
07:18.43 | Wobin | weab: not always possible |
07:19.13 | Wobin | More to the point, with my latency (and really the latency of my guildies) it always takes a second to get anything done |
07:19.32 | maia | combat ressing is a good argument. hmm. |
07:19.50 | Wobin | I'd like to know if they're dead, I mean, even just a half second flash on the bar showing empty rather than just disappearing |
07:20.13 | HoJ|Slayman | So it's patchday once more |
07:20.16 | maia | problem is I cant think of an easy way to show bars for dead units |
07:20.36 | maia | especially if you want to hide that bar after a second or so |
07:20.44 | Wobin | hm |
07:21.01 | Wobin | maybe the message then would be best |
07:22.09 | maia | wait, its patch day? |
07:22.13 | weab | yes |
07:22.20 | weab | 1.11 today |
07:22.34 | maia | did anyone test squishy on 1.11? I didnt, and I'm busy in the next 2-3 days |
07:25.01 | FryGuy | ya |
07:25.10 | FryGuy | it worked on PTR last week |
07:25.17 | FryGuy | when I was still playing wow |
07:27.25 | maia | okay, good to know. |
07:27.31 | maia | you quit playing wow? |
07:27.40 | FryGuy | got kicked out of my guild |
07:27.47 | maia | eww. |
07:27.48 | FryGuy | and nothing left in wow besides naxx |
07:27.50 | MoonWolf | kick them back. |
07:28.03 | FryGuy | and no other guilds on the server are good enough for naxx |
07:28.11 | FryGuy | so.. i just quit since I don't want to reroll on another server |
07:28.16 | maia | wait for server transfers |
07:28.20 | maia | it's planned for summer. |
07:28.29 | FryGuy | eh |
07:28.34 | FryGuy | i'm interested in the naxx race |
07:28.49 | FryGuy | i won't care when it's on farm status :/ |
07:37.22 | CIA-18 | 03wobin * r2996 10GonffBar/ (GonffBar.lua GonffBarLocals.lua): GonffBar - Updated version |
07:37.32 | [Ammo] | silly posting on WoW forums |
07:37.34 | [Ammo] | I have a morning ritual that I need to share. I call it 'the terminator'. First I crouch down in the shower in the classic 'naked terminator traveling through time' pose. With my eyes closed I crouch there for a minute, visualizing either Arnold or the guy from the second movie (not the chick in the third one because that one sucked) and I start to hum the terminator theme. Then I slowly rise to a standing position and open my eyes. It helps me to |
07:37.50 | [Ammo] | as response to Patch Tomorrow! by Eyonix |
07:38.06 | ckknight | lol |
07:38.16 | ckknight | it helps me t |
07:38.21 | ckknight | what's the rest |
07:39.55 | [Ammo] | oh I see all |
07:40.01 | [Ammo] | hmm |
07:40.02 | [Ammo] | moment |
07:40.06 | [Ammo] | It helps me to proceed through my day as an emotionless, cyborg badass. The only problem is if the |
07:40.09 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
07:40.47 | weab | shower curtain. |
07:40.50 | ckknight | lol. |
07:40.51 | weab | i hate those |
07:41.03 | weab | sliding door is the way to go |
07:41.05 | Wobin | bah |
07:41.11 | Wobin | We have a shower curtain |
07:41.31 | Wobin | unfortunately we don't have a bath to keep the water in |
07:41.40 | Wobin | So we're thankful for that shower curtain |
07:41.56 | Wobin | even though the curtain rod keeps falling to the ground and we have to try and put it back up all the time |
07:42.16 | Wobin | Cause mopping the floor is infinitely easier than having to wipe -everything- down =P |
07:42.47 | weab | do you live in a third world country, or in the ghetto? |
07:43.37 | Wobin | Beijing |
07:43.50 | Wobin | Which isn't precisely third world |
07:44.00 | weab | oh, i think i actually knew that and forgot |
07:44.09 | weab | and i was only teasing |
07:44.57 | [Ammo] | hmm |
07:45.07 | [Ammo] | anyone here fought c'thun with goood memory? |
07:45.28 | [Ammo] | is the first green beam 3 seconds after the fight starts or at the start aka first action |
07:45.52 | [Ammo] | so: combat blam green beam or combat 3 seconds green beam |
08:02.07 | Kebinusan | im back |
08:08.24 | CIA-18 | 03ammo * r2997 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: |
08:08.24 | CIA-18 | BigWigs (C'Thun): |
08:08.24 | CIA-18 | * Changed starting time for the first Dark Glare and Tentacles to 42 seconds |
08:08.24 | CIA-18 | The first green beam is 3 seconds into combat, not at the start of combat. |
08:10.48 | CIA-18 | 03wobin * r2998 10PlowKing/ (5 files): |
08:10.48 | CIA-18 | PlowKing - Fixed binding issue |
08:10.48 | CIA-18 | - Fixed Junk/Empty spaces issue |
08:15.15 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
08:18.24 | FryGuy | you know those "tech support horror stories" moonwolf? |
08:18.42 | FryGuy | after being a tech support, they're really not that funny anymore :p |
08:22.25 | Wobin | FryGuy: Yes. they just make me weep |
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08:36.58 | Mikma | so the patch has gone live |
08:37.27 | CIA-18 | 03ammo * r2999 10BigWigs/Messages.lua: |
08:37.27 | CIA-18 | Bigwigs: |
08:37.27 | CIA-18 | * Added white toggle to the messages. It will ignore all coloring and display the messages in white if turned on. |
08:37.27 | CIA-18 | The colorblind will like this. |
08:37.31 | Kebinusan | go go 25k stormstrike |
08:37.56 | Kebinusan | but but.. the bars are still colored! |
08:38.02 | [Ammo] | screw the bars! |
08:38.04 | Kebinusan | rofl |
08:40.06 | [Ammo] | I'll go and add something now :) |
08:40.15 | [Ammo] | as an incentive |
08:40.33 | Wobin | woo |
08:40.41 | Wobin | massive Fizzwidget update for the patch |
08:40.48 | Wobin | oh |
08:40.51 | Wobin | toc changes =P |
08:41.12 | CIA-18 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r3000 10AceLibrary/AceLocale.lua: |
08:41.12 | CIA-18 | AceLocale - AceLibraryBase -> AceLibraryBaseClass |
08:41.12 | CIA-18 | 3000! |
08:41.20 | Mikma | ding! |
08:41.24 | ckknight_ | yes |
08:41.25 | ckknight_ | ding. |
08:41.42 | ckknight_ | that was a real commit, I wasn't saving it on purpose |
08:41.59 | CIA-18 | 03ammo * r3001 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Naxxramas/): |
08:41.59 | CIA-18 | BigWigs: |
08:41.59 | CIA-18 | * Added Naxxramas zone to the core and folder for bossmods, now get some modules in there! |
08:42.11 | Wobin | hehe |
08:42.47 | [Ammo] | now we wait for Shyva |
08:42.59 | [Ammo] | he made a good system for toggles inside bossmods |
08:43.04 | [Ammo] | which is Dewdrop compliant :) |
08:43.15 | [Ammo] | just needs dewdrop and optional Fu interface |
08:43.35 | [Ammo] | Shyva couldn't commit because his brother was hogging the PC :p |
08:54.30 | Mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5016-EkBomb.html |
09:02.39 | CIA-18 | 03ammo * r3002 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: |
09:02.39 | CIA-18 | BigWigs (C'Thun): |
09:02.39 | CIA-18 | * Fixed warning for Giant Eye tentacles, first one spawns with first set of small ones in phase 2 |
09:05.01 | [Ammo] | that C'thun fight is hard on the timers |
09:08.19 | Wobin | hehe |
09:08.22 | Wobin | that's great |
09:09.14 | Kebinusan | be nice if they actually did truely random events |
09:09.33 | Kebinusan | sometime between now and 50 seconds he'll dark glare sort of thing |
09:09.38 | [Ammo] | hehe |
09:10.00 | Kebinusan | or look for the mage that just used blink and target him! |
09:10.30 | Kebinusan | oh the fun that could be had with coding boss encounters |
09:11.11 | Kebinusan | we did find out that if c'thun dies while you're in the stomach that digestive acid seems to keep stacking on you even after you leave the stomach |
09:11.31 | Kebinusan | poor warlock had to run back after we couldnt stop digestive acid from stacking, finally killed him at 17 |
09:11.47 | [Ammo] | ugh |
09:20.19 | Wobin | arr numnumnum |
09:34.49 | Mikma | yarr! |
09:35.04 | Mikma | having huge backpacks + plowking = BAAAAD! |
09:45.23 | ckknight_ | Guns don't kill people; husbands that come home early do. |
09:46.00 | Gngsk | there was a screenshot of someone with digestive acid stacked to 60+ |
09:48.12 | Wobin | Mikma: An unfortunate state of affairs, to be true =) |
09:49.06 | Wobin | If you turn on debugging, you'll be able to see how many moves it tries to save =) and give you a spammy countdown =P |
09:49.53 | Mikma | Wobin: not nagging or whining, just saying it's baaad ;) |
09:50.04 | Wobin | Yeah =) |
09:50.33 | Mikma | when can you Close the frames? |
09:50.33 | Wobin | Given the nature of the beast, it's something that has to happen =) |
09:50.43 | Wobin | That's why PlowKing was made |
09:50.51 | Wobin | Close the frame? |
09:50.58 | Wobin | Bagframe? |
09:51.00 | Mikma | and, also remember to make option to open the Default-Frames back... |
09:51.14 | Mikma | well any frame you like, i was trying to close the "key" frame but it didn't |
09:51.20 | Wobin | oh |
09:51.46 | Wobin | I'm considering making it able to 'hide' frames |
09:51.48 | Mikma | opening the default frames from menu would be nice thing to have |
09:52.08 | Wobin | gah |
09:52.13 | ckknight_ | She grew on him like she was a colony of E. coli and he was room-temperature Canadian beef. |
09:52.16 | Mikma | meaning if you close your "Key" frame, then you can open it back from menu or so |
09:52.20 | Wobin | yeah |
09:52.45 | Wobin | except, I guess if someone 'hides' all the frames =P |
09:52.58 | Wobin | leaving no frame to grab the menu from =) |
09:53.06 | Mikma | is it on purpose, that when i press my B (binded to "open all bags") plowking opens too? (binded to shift+b) |
09:53.11 | Wobin | yes |
09:53.17 | Wobin | It's bound to OpenAllBags |
09:53.21 | Wobin | by request of Tekk |
09:53.26 | Mikma | zomg |
09:53.44 | Wobin | This was after the keybinding was put in |
09:54.19 | Mikma | well, then it would be nice thing to be able to hide the empty frames / empty slots |
09:54.34 | Wobin | hide labels |
09:54.46 | Wobin | will hide the empty frames |
09:55.04 | Mikma | found in where? |
09:55.28 | Wobin | um rightclick on a label maybe |
09:55.38 | Wobin | or on a frame |
09:55.54 | Mikma | not there, i tried with Key and Quiver |
09:55.56 | [Ammo] | FryGuy: I added Naxxramas to the core and made the folder |
09:56.05 | [Ammo] | FryGuy: how beta/unstable are your Naxx modules? |
09:56.11 | Wobin | Hide/Show Labes |
09:56.14 | Wobin | Labels |
09:56.53 | Mikma | Create New Category, Flatten Sections, Close Menu... |
09:57.07 | FryGuy | ammo: one is just a copy/paste of huhu :p |
09:57.11 | Wobin | try clicking on a space where there isn't a bagslot |
09:57.33 | Mikma | oooh |
09:57.34 | Mikma | bingo |
09:57.41 | [Ammo] | FryGuy: the Zone is "Naxxramas" not "Naxx" |
09:57.44 | [Ammo] | decided to use the full name |
09:57.49 | [Ammo] | but if one or more of them work |
09:57.51 | [Ammo] | feel free to commit them |
09:57.54 | Mikma | but.. now the useful names are gone too :( *sob* |
09:57.56 | [Ammo] | so we can get some testing going |
09:57.59 | Wobin | hehe |
09:58.08 | Wobin | I'll put in a 'hide empty frames' |
09:58.11 | Mikma | goodie |
09:58.27 | Mikma | you should make couple of keybinds |
09:58.39 | Mikma | something like "show all" and "show empty" |
09:58.47 | CIA-18 | 03ammo * r3003 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: |
09:58.47 | CIA-18 | BigWigs: |
09:58.47 | CIA-18 | * Added Moam AQ20 module to the toc |
09:59.04 | Wobin | hm |
09:59.14 | Mikma | meaning if someone is grinding their asses of they can use the "show empty" to see how much space they have left without having to look the full bags |
09:59.21 | Mikma | of=off |
09:59.23 | Wobin | hehe |
09:59.31 | Wobin | That's an idea |
09:59.41 | Wobin | Maybe have ShowEmpty also show the Junk category |
10:00.16 | FryGuy | ammo: the zone is "Temple of Ahn'qiraj" too |
10:00.16 | Mikma | hmm true |
10:00.24 | FryGuy | yet, it's "AQ40" :p |
10:00.27 | Mikma | by that way you can easily delete some crap to free up space |
10:00.40 | Mikma | without having to browse through bags again |
10:00.49 | Wobin | I wonder if I could autotrash everything in the junk cat |
10:00.57 | Wobin | (on command naturally) |
10:01.19 | Mikma | propably yes, but there's one catch |
10:01.26 | Mikma | Darkmoon Faire items.. |
10:01.43 | Mikma | they have to be behind a switch or you'll be assraped by users |
10:02.04 | Mikma | "zomg wtf it sold my itamz" |
10:02.31 | Mikma | oh btw, TheoryCraft seems like a nice addon |
10:02.49 | Wobin | True.. |
10:02.50 | Mikma | it names damage and heal-buttons with average damage/heal the spell does |
10:03.10 | Wobin | but really, the users themselves can move each of the items to their very own Darkmoon Faire section ) |
10:03.24 | Mikma | haha, make a slot |
10:03.39 | Mikma | "Returnable" |
10:03.40 | [Ammo] | FryGuy: just telling you what I added to the core :) |
10:04.01 | [Ammo] | use "Naxxramas" in your modules and it should work just fine :) |
10:04.11 | FryGuy | well |
10:04.22 | Wobin | What timing =P |
10:04.22 | [Ammo] | I can change it to Naxx if you want :p |
10:04.35 | FryGuy | MC, BWL, AQ40, AQ20, ZG.. all abbreviations less than 4 characters :p |
10:04.42 | [Ammo] | ok ok ok |
10:04.43 | [Ammo] | meh |
10:04.45 | FryGuy | 4 or less :p |
10:04.55 | FryGuy | meh i don't care |
10:05.05 | FryGuy | i'm just saying be consistant :p |
10:05.06 | [Ammo] | Ashenvale and hinterlands don;t :p |
10:05.20 | FryGuy | not like i'm going to be able to update them at all |
10:05.36 | Mikma | oh yeah you'll be getting the 1.11 on there now muah. we have 12+ hours left to play ;) |
10:05.56 | FryGuy | since I can't do naxx anymore |
10:06.01 | [Ammo] | oh ? |
10:06.11 | [Ammo] | not attuned? not in guild up to it? |
10:06.18 | FryGuy | my guild kicked me out :( |
10:06.24 | [Ammo] | ouch |
10:06.27 | [Ammo] | sigh |
10:06.31 | Wobin | lootdrama? |
10:06.34 | Wobin | dramalama? |
10:06.45 | FryGuy | no |
10:06.48 | Mikma | Wobin: hey.. umh... |
10:06.56 | FryGuy | GM said that i don't like healing, so i'm wasting their time |
10:07.03 | Wobin | o.O |
10:07.11 | FryGuy | ya doesn't make sense :/ |
10:07.11 | Mikma | the hide labels only removes the border from top, but lefts the name ontop of the frame |
10:07.13 | Wobin | you're a ... druid? |
10:07.17 | FryGuy | pries |
10:07.18 | FryGuy | t |
10:07.20 | Wobin | ah |
10:07.32 | FryGuy | but.. it's not true |
10:07.48 | Wobin | Mikma: hm |
10:08.02 | FryGuy | and it's not like i wasn't any good |
10:08.03 | Mikma | Wobin: wan't a screenshow? :) |
10:08.05 | Mikma | shot! |
10:08.10 | Wobin | yes please =) |
10:08.16 | [Ammo] | damn it sucks Fry |
10:08.23 | Mikma | ok i'll take a couple |
10:08.30 | Wobin | FryGuy: You weren't... like in shadowform all the time? =P |
10:08.37 | FryGuy | no |
10:08.52 | Wobin | And you weren't just standing around looking pretty? |
10:08.55 | FryGuy | i was disc/holy :p |
10:09.02 | Wobin | Madness |
10:09.26 | FryGuy | i would smite/dot on trash because i was always in groups with like 3 ranged and another healer |
10:09.30 | FryGuy | and they'd never take damage :/ |
10:09.45 | [Ammo] | silly reason |
10:10.07 | FryGuy | silly reason to do damage? |
10:10.14 | [Ammo] | no silly reason to kick you |
10:10.28 | FryGuy | nobody in my groups died :/ |
10:10.32 | FryGuy | i would pay attention |
10:11.00 | FryGuy | well people would die |
10:11.04 | FryGuy | but it was dumb mages pulling aggro :P |
10:11.55 | Mikma | FryGuy: well i got kicked from my previous guild by reason "whining", while i wasn't doing whining, i was being offensive ;) |
10:12.15 | Wobin | Mikma: It's all about semantics =) |
10:12.33 | Wobin | Although, I'd much prefer to be booted for being offensive than whining |
10:12.43 | Wobin | Since you get more satisfaction out of being offensive |
10:12.58 | Mikma | Wobin: http://wow.reaktio.net/pk1.jpg , pk2.jpg , pk3.jpg .. notice the HS slot |
10:13.35 | Mikma | yeah, i didn't like to whine, doesn't suit me, i always told them to piss off or something ;) |
10:13.56 | Mikma | but hey, they gave me 90% epic gear, doesn't matter haha |
10:14.02 | Wobin | aha |
10:15.59 | Mikma | Wobin: btw, try another border.. Interface\Tooltips\UI-Tooltip-Border that's pretty damn nice border |
10:16.16 | Wobin | Hm, I'll see if I can get some skins going =) |
10:17.11 | Mikma | yay, more the merrier! |
10:18.00 | phyber | yay, skins. Bagnon style one, please ;) |
10:18.17 | Wobin | phyber: Get me the texture paths and I'll put them in |
10:18.32 | Mikma | i kinda saw that answer in my head |
10:18.42 | Mikma | but it was something like "sure, just do me one and send it to me" |
10:18.43 | phyber | Wobin: ok. |
10:19.18 | Wobin | I don't mind working off custom ones either |
10:19.32 | phyber | WoWI is different today, more simple. I like it. |
10:19.42 | Mikma | yeah i noticed too |
10:19.50 | Wobin | Actually, you could probably commit directly to the SVN. I'll make a textures dir |
10:20.09 | Wobin | *ahem* |
10:20.25 | Wobin | s/ll make/ve made/ =P |
10:21.32 | Mikma | anyone tested the mouselook-feature in 1.11? or is there one? |
10:27.49 | Mikma | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20060619.jpg |
10:27.57 | Mikma | this one's damn funny |
10:30.59 | Mikma | "This is SO not my fault." |
10:38.59 | Mikma | http://www.leasticoulddo.com/comics/strips/20060614.gif :D |
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11:27.11 | Wobin | Mikma: Have you seen the movie about Wheelchair Rebecca? |
11:36.10 | Mikma | Wobin: hmm nope |
11:36.36 | Wobin | http://www.atomfilms.com/landing/landingIndex.jsp?id=atom_412&mature=accept |
11:36.45 | Wobin | nsfw |
11:36.50 | Wobin | (rrnsfw) |
11:37.10 | Wobin | Although no -real- nudity |
11:37.45 | Mikma | gah stupid firefox doesn't play but nags about missing players... altho i have them |
11:38.51 | Mikma | Wobin: btw i was walking outside and got an idea for plowking. "Smart-Open" for bags. Non-Combat will open empty slots/junk, Combat will open Potions and such, and merchant/cityzone will open all |
11:39.18 | Mikma | christ it's hot out |
11:39.42 | Mikma | +26 celsius |
11:40.10 | Mikma | temperature of the road: 43.7°C |
11:40.43 | Mikma | pretty soon we can start cooking eggs on the pavement |
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11:41.21 | Mikma | hiya again |
11:42.36 | CIA-18 | 03otravi * r3004 10oRA_RaidSay/ (oRA_RaidSay.lua oRA_RaidSay.toc oRA_RaidSay.xml): |
11:42.38 | CIA-18 | oRA_RaidSay: |
11:42.42 | CIA-18 | - Updated to 1.11. |
11:42.44 | CIA-18 | - XML removed. |
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11:49.06 | Mikma | Wobin: did you manage to see my idea for plowking? |
11:49.13 | Wobin | hm, possibly not |
11:49.22 | Mikma | Wobin: btw i was walking outside and got an idea for plowking. "Smart-Open" for bags. Non-Combat will open empty slots/junk, Combat will open Potions and such, and merchant/cityzone will open all |
11:49.23 | Wobin | <Mikma> gah stupid firefox doesn't play but nags about missing players... altho i have them |
11:50.02 | Wobin | hm |
11:50.19 | Wobin | open all can cover a lot of screen |
11:50.26 | Wobin | (for city) |
11:50.44 | Mikma | that's sad but true |
11:50.48 | Wobin | it -should- already open for merchants |
11:50.52 | Mikma | but so do the normal bags too |
11:51.07 | Wobin | I tend not to walk around a city with my bag open though |
11:51.59 | Wobin | but I can see a 'oncombat' or 'onloot' trigger working |
11:52.28 | Wobin | er incombat |
11:53.26 | [Ammo] | haste: shouldn't raidsay just send stuff to the raidwarning channel? |
11:53.32 | [Ammo] | and not do stuff over the ctra channel? |
11:54.09 | wereHamster | is the flood limit per chat channel or global? |
11:54.41 | Wobin | channel I'd say, but I don't know for certain |
11:55.20 | wereHamster | I though that, too.. that's the reacon for the three channel types in CC |
11:55.59 | Wobin | I don't really think three are necessary though |
11:56.22 | [Ammo] | 3 channels for what? |
11:56.27 | [Ammo] | oh that commchannel lib |
11:56.33 | wereHamster | maybe guild and raid are enough.. |
11:56.39 | [Ammo] | there is a channel limit |
11:56.50 | [Ammo] | so one module eating 3 channel is bad, real bad, and a good reason not to use it |
11:57.12 | wereHamster | it doesn't use all three.. |
11:57.40 | Wobin | It's more the point that there are a lot of people who simply cannot afford the channels to be able to use it where the possiblity of three of them being taken up |
11:57.48 | [Ammo] | yup |
11:57.50 | wereHamster | I mean.. if you have CTRA, damage meters and CTA you're up to three channels, too |
11:57.53 | Wobin | (if that last statement made any logical sense) |
11:58.03 | Wobin | will CC reuse those channels? |
11:58.08 | [Ammo] | euhm just point all of them to the same channel |
11:58.11 | [Ammo] | and you're done |
11:58.39 | wereHamster | You mean one global channel for each faction? |
11:58.43 | [Ammo] | no |
11:58.45 | Wobin | I've yet to have issues pointing all my mods to the one channel |
11:58.57 | [Ammo] | if you're in a raid etc |
11:59.00 | [Ammo] | and running damagemeters |
11:59.06 | [Ammo] | might as well use the same channel for both |
11:59.12 | Wobin | you point it at the ctra channel |
11:59.26 | [Ammo] | it's bullshit every mod and their mother needs a new channel |
11:59.51 | [Ammo] | what we need is a proper channel lib thing that just knows about the CTRA/oRA channel and makes sure you can send stuff over that if it's available |
11:59.54 | [Ammo] | no need for fancy other stuff |
12:00.03 | wereHamster | I'm just not a big fan of channel name broadcasts.. |
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12:00.50 | wereHamster | why should I depend on a raid leader broadcasting a channel name if I can reliably generate a unique channel name? |
12:00.53 | Wobin | It's kinda necessary. though, barring any formal method of working out someone elses addonlist |
12:00.57 | [Ammo] | I started on UhuruLib which does just that, detect channel for damagemeters / ctra and makes it available for other addons |
12:01.18 | [Ammo] | not finished though |
12:01.20 | Wobin | Nice name =) |
12:01.23 | [Ammo] | yarr |
12:02.01 | [Ammo] | the main problem is the raid is probably using CTRA so until they change their method there will always be a channel in use for that |
12:02.32 | wereHamster | I'm all for standards.. but there is currently none.. |
12:02.43 | MoonWolf | the current standard is the ctra channel |
12:02.44 | [Ammo] | there is 1 and it's used by oRA and CTRA |
12:02.57 | MoonWolf | and that was never ment for what some people use it for. |
12:02.58 | [Ammo] | which are the only raidassist mods out there |
12:03.18 | Wobin | Maybe we could suggest to Blizzard to offer us a instance specific channel |
12:03.42 | wereHamster | or the 'hidden' flag to SendChatMessage() so we can use the normal raid channekl |
12:03.52 | [Ammo] | yeah hidden flag will work just fine |
12:04.51 | Wobin | hehe you could then code a 'QuietTime' addon which hooks the SCM and autoadds on the flag =P |
12:06.43 | Wobin | PS did anyone use the OneBag++ addon? |
12:06.53 | Wobin | or InvSort I think it was |
12:08.54 | Mikma | i don't trust them anymore xD hehe i was once so stupid i sold the good rare bop mace and don't wan't to do it again |
12:09.28 | haste_ | [Ammo], I don't have any info on how, and I can't run the mpq programs :< |
12:10.07 | wereHamster | I know how I could re-route the raid/sync channel in CC to the CRTA channel.. But I have yet to find a description what CTRA broadcasts to announce a channel name.. without reading the CTRA source.. If you think it's a standard then there is not much support for the developers who want to use it.. |
12:10.13 | [Ammo] | haste_: aha |
12:10.21 | [Ammo] | that would explain :)) |
12:10.42 | haste_ | so I did what I could |
12:10.51 | [Ammo] | wereHamster: it's the only standard currently used |
12:10.58 | [Ammo] | wereHamster: and it's one easy string... |
12:11.21 | [Ammo] | oRA_CORE_CT_CHANNEL_BROADCAST = "<CTMod> This is an automatic message sent by CT_RaidAssist. Channel changed to: " |
12:11.25 | [Ammo] | from oRA |
12:11.36 | [Ammo] | anything behind that string is the channelanme |
12:15.12 | [Ammo] | oh and that broadcast message is localized in a few languages ofcurse |
12:17.01 | Mikma | i hate RealPlayer download |
12:17.16 | Mikma | they make people register before they can download |
12:17.27 | wereHamster | I think such an information would be worth a sticky somewhere... preferably in the official UI forums.. as said.. for a 'standard' I don't see much support from the community.. |
12:19.15 | [Ammo] | now you're being stubborn imho |
12:21.29 | wereHamster | maybe I am.. |
12:32.54 | Mikma | mmm, new ebm. let's see |
12:35.48 | Wobin | ebm? |
12:36.48 | Mikma | http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html -> Trance -> EBM (in the red area) |
12:39.28 | phyber | rename it if you don't like it :) |
12:40.04 | haste_ | I usually do |
12:40.15 | haste_ | but I patched to 1.10 now |
12:41.01 | Mikma | Psychedelic Trance removes the hindu/middle-eastern influences and melodies and full-on blasts you with mindfuck music. |
12:41.04 | Mikma | hehehee |
12:41.17 | Mikma | these texts in that address are quite good |
12:42.09 | Mikma | Goa Trance description: Imported from India, duty free, where it is so hot the DJs don't even bother mixing or else their faces melt off (and that's BEFORE you drop acid). |
12:42.31 | phyber | cool change. it's annoying when you can't watch the fight. |
12:42.49 | [Ammo] | and annoying for the insignia's in AQ40 |
12:42.53 | Mikma | Goa would be the best genre ever, if it weren't for the fucking hippies. xD |
12:45.20 | CIA-18 | 03otravi 07otravi * r3005 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Added support for MobHealth2. |
12:45.40 | Mikma | hey btw, where's the universal scale nero was making? |
12:48.14 | CIA-18 | 03otravi 07otravi * r3006 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - It will also hide the mobhealth text frame. |
12:50.30 | Wobin | hehe this is a great site |
12:52.22 | Mikma | Wobin: the descriptions rock, don't they? :) |
12:52.29 | Wobin | they're brilliant |
12:53.37 | Wobin | hehe Tubular Bells =) |
12:53.52 | Wobin | oh god |
12:53.54 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1564.0.html |
12:53.55 | Wobin | Philip Glass =P |
12:53.58 | Industrial | omfgizzle |
12:54.30 | Industrial | dat is juzt schweet |
12:55.46 | Mikma | humdidum |
12:56.01 | Wobin | hehe german trance |
12:56.02 | Mikma | too bad it's not real |
12:57.02 | Industrial | uhuh |
12:57.20 | Wobin | I'm impressed at the work gone into this |
12:57.52 | Mikma | the picture or the site |
12:58.09 | Industrial | someone knows photoshop |
12:58.10 | Industrial | :-) |
12:58.19 | Industrial | too bad I dont :( |
12:58.56 | Wobin | site =P |
12:59.26 | Mikma | it's funny how you can spend hours on reading the descriptions and listening the samples |
13:03.45 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1564.new#new |
13:03.50 | Industrial | made a reply ^^ |
13:04.04 | Industrial | yay karma -10! |
13:04.08 | Industrial | wewt |
13:04.40 | Mikma | i'll smite you! |
13:05.07 | Mikma | hehe joking |
13:05.14 | Mikma | i hate that kind of "votes" |
13:05.18 | Industrial | yep |
13:05.26 | Industrial | Doesnt work with users |
13:05.27 | Industrial | :P |
13:07.08 | Wobin | ~60*60/100 |
13:07.11 | purl | 36 |
13:07.40 | phyber | anyone who can get to 4chan right now that can paste (or mayeb you already have it) the O_O kind of text that's a face. the one that got photoshopped onto delay close a few times now. |
13:07.45 | phyber | </shitty description> |
13:08.14 | phyber | oh, and Opera 9 is out if anyone cares :) |
13:09.17 | Industrial | :o |
13:12.10 | phyber | hmm, maybe I can browse 4chan through links and find the text :) |
13:12.14 | Mikma | i must admit that the fubar-xp idea is nice tho on that picture |
13:13.48 | phyber | maybe I'll try to dominate the fubar border with one later. |
13:14.46 | Mikma | that would be nice |
13:19.10 | Wobin | I -do- like that xp bar |
13:19.15 | Wobin | it's very snazzy |
13:21.20 | haste_ | >http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/addons/xp/WoWScrnShot_061706_111926.png << I like my XP solution :p |
13:22.39 | Mikma | it's a funyn thing that the frames are centered on your pictures :P |
13:22.42 | [Ammo] | upgrade your perfectraidtargets haste :p |
13:23.58 | Mikma | haste_: have you seen the default layout i get when i pop oUF with fresh character |
13:24.12 | haste_ | Mikma, yes, and honestyl I can't be arsed to fix it :p |
13:24.27 | haste_ | I would rather have the default layout just be every frame in a bunch in the middle |
13:24.46 | Mikma | that's a start too |
13:25.08 | Mikma | also remember to make a huge huge popup window saying "move teh frames u nub" |
13:25.14 | Industrial | haste_: Whats that Xp thingy? |
13:26.04 | phyber | weee. found the thing. |
13:26.08 | phyber | ._. |
13:26.35 | Mikma | yeah, it's in pants for most men ;) |
13:26.36 | Wobin | >_< |
13:27.01 | Wobin | Actually, that xp bar shouldn't be too hard to write... |
13:27.19 | Mikma | do it do it woohoohoo! |
13:27.34 | Mikma | (that's from little nicky) |
13:27.41 | haste_ | Industrial, my little "cba to have a large bar on my screen telling me visually how much into the level I am" |
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13:30.35 | Industrial | gief |
13:30.36 | Industrial | :D |
13:33.32 | haste_ | I can see if I can upload it later on |
13:34.33 | Industrial | thanks |
13:34.54 | Industrial | Meh you can pastebin it if you want |
13:35.08 | Industrial | Pandora radio is really cool |
13:35.28 | Industrial | its way better ar deciding what music is nice then last.fm |
13:35.41 | Industrial | <3 the pandora opera widget |
13:36.16 | Mikma | www.philosomatika.com |
13:40.14 | haste_ | Industrial, I would, but my computer is currently overheating quite a lot :< |
13:40.42 | haste_ | Mikma, the current song is very strange |
13:40.54 | Mikma | yeah it is, i'm listening it too now |
13:41.05 | Mikma | but.. Get your stomp on! |
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13:41.26 | Mikma | <PROTECTED> |
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13:41.31 | haste_ | wrong key :< |
13:42.16 | Industrial | haste_: k |
14:02.20 | Wobin | bah |
14:02.32 | Wobin | Why do I always get the urge to write something when the servers are down |
14:03.22 | Mikma | because then you can't play and you feel like coding |
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14:03.32 | Mikma | i myself do have the same thing |
14:03.49 | Mikma | "ooooh now i figured out why my addon doesn't work! .. oh wait servers are down" |
14:09.40 | phyber | it helps to have your own server for that exact reason. |
14:10.03 | Mikma | oh boy i wish |
14:10.34 | phyber | i have one. it's fun for exploring too. |
14:11.01 | phyber | although, for some reason, spawning enemies doesn't work right. they are always dead when i spawn them |
14:11.14 | phyber | I wanted to own ragnaros with my ashbringer and level 1478 warrior ;) |
14:11.24 | Mikma | hahah |
14:11.42 | phyber | well, they are dead, but still move about. so it was just ragnaros mallet chasing me. |
14:12.07 | phyber | funny stuff :) |
14:12.16 | Mikma | sounds like it |
14:12.46 | Mikma | but doesn't that require alot of cpu power to run own server |
14:13.11 | phyber | not really. |
14:14.37 | Mikma | i happen to have extra 700MHz pc there, maybe i should do the same and screw around :P |
14:14.55 | phyber | I run it on a dual 900Mhz p3, 1GB RAM, slackware linux |
14:15.01 | phyber | it doesn't use all of that. |
14:15.06 | phyber | I also have my UT2004 server on there. |
14:15.27 | Mikma | hmm |
14:15.32 | Mikma | so it runs on linux? |
14:15.43 | phyber | but it's only for me, so it's not like hundreds of people running around in there. |
14:15.56 | phyber | maybe it would be different then |
14:15.56 | Mikma | yeah |
14:16.20 | phyber | in it's current idle state, it's using 180MB of RAM. |
14:16.29 | phyber | which is just the database stuff. |
14:16.37 | phyber | only active maps get loaded into memory, which is quite nice. |
14:16.43 | phyber | if they are inactive for a while, it unloads them |
14:16.52 | phyber | database is stored in mysql :) |
14:17.01 | phyber | it's an open source wow server :) |
14:17.38 | Wobin | Can I log in? =) |
14:17.44 | Wobin | And test stuff? =) |
14:18.52 | Mikma | phyber: about connecting. do you need to use dns to replace blizzards address' to your own or do you use some program to change the address where game connects? |
14:18.57 | Mikma | or, is it stored somewhere |
14:19.34 | phyber | Wobin: if you wanted to. I can create an account. |
14:19.47 | Wobin | Woo that'd be very cool =) |
14:19.50 | phyber | Mikma: you just change the IP address in realmlist.wtf |
14:19.53 | phyber | no patching the client |
14:19.56 | Wobin | What 'patch' is it up to? |
14:20.02 | phyber | 1.10.2 |
14:20.07 | phyber | always uses the latest version :) |
14:20.10 | Wobin | wow |
14:20.36 | phyber | some stuff doesn't work, like, at the moment if you speak to a vendor, you will crash the world server ;) |
14:20.41 | phyber | but I didn't svn up for a few days :) |
14:21.07 | Wobin | meh, I only need it for short term testing =) |
14:21.50 | phyber | I have a copy of my wow installation as WoWPrivate. just so they don't step on each other by changing that file each time. not that they should. |
14:22.33 | Mikma | http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/2020/banned4kx.png |
14:23.08 | phyber | ouch, banned account. I'd hate that to happen :( |
14:23.43 | Mikma | yeah, but that's what the guy deserved.. |
14:23.57 | Mikma | used 3rd party programs to float around |
14:24.00 | Mikma | and teleport.. |
14:24.31 | phyber | I didn't know priests could levitate until last week. I saw one running across the water and thought it was hax. |
14:24.55 | Mikma | http://www.kickassapps.com/wowmap/ |
14:25.10 | Mikma | phyber: water walking > levitate :P |
14:25.30 | phyber | who has Water Walking? |
14:25.40 | Mikma | Shaman |
14:26.02 | Mikma | shaman can cast it on others |
14:26.17 | Mikma | and atleast some time ago they could run across waters with mounts |
14:26.31 | phyber | cool |
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14:32.36 | Mikma | http://www.markeedragon.com/screenshots/data/3019/2fairecannonmap.avi |
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14:32.43 | Mikma | i might consider that as a cheat |
14:32.47 | Amadeo | Don't cheat! |
14:33.33 | Mikma | Amadeo: i won't but this program does.. http://www.kickassapps.com/wowmap/ |
14:34.03 | Mikma | you can see almost all with that program, chests, flowers, mobs, players... |
14:34.25 | phyber | I remember programs like that for UO. |
14:35.05 | Amadeo | wow, it's right there in the open? |
14:35.31 | Amadeo | that's definately cheating |
14:36.20 | Amadeo | 1.11 is out, woohoo |
14:36.27 | Tain | haha yeah they've been watching WoWGlider forever, people are constantly getting banned. |
14:36.30 | Amadeo | anyone have a mirror? |
14:36.45 | Amadeo | What's WoWGlider? |
14:37.10 | Tain | They host the Kickass maps thing forums. |
14:37.16 | Amadeo | hah |
14:37.24 | Amadeo | oh by the way, I meant mirror for the 1.11 patch :P |
14:37.36 | Mikma | wowglider is bot i believe |
14:37.41 | Tain | Yeah it is. |
14:38.56 | Amadeo | I heard that Blizzard accidentally banned a lot of peoples guild banks when banning gold farmers |
14:39.02 | Amadeo | I wonder if it's true or not |
14:39.09 | Mikma | might be true |
14:39.25 | Amadeo | I know some guild banks have a ton of gold |
14:39.29 | Tain | Never know. But I've rarely heard someone get banned who didn't claim innocense. |
14:39.43 | Amadeo | My old guild from Aggramar brought 50,000 gold to Test once |
14:39.46 | Amadeo | Tain: hahaha, so true |
14:40.13 | Amadeo | Every banned person, even the botters, seem to claim innocense |
14:48.44 | Amadeo | I like how they promote these cheats |
14:54.13 | Industrial | me2 |
14:54.19 | Industrial | cause its legal |
14:54.20 | Industrial | :P |
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15:01.03 | mjc | it is true, amadeo |
15:01.27 | mjc | they banned two of the guild banks for the top two guilds on Magtheridon :p |
15:01.51 | mjc | didn't ban me though ;P |
15:01.52 | Tain | Which doesn't mean that they weren't gold sellers! |
15:02.13 | mjc | they got their accounts back on friday |
15:06.15 | Mikma | with the gold or without |
15:07.04 | phyber | I don't like the whole banned for gold farming thing. I often wonder how much gold I'm allowed before blizzard ban me for no reason. |
15:07.31 | Mikma | hottest rogue ever: http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=805849649l9oy.jpg |
15:07.33 | phyber | I have about 1,500G now on my main character. I don't farm, I just don't spend much gold is all. |
15:07.36 | Mikma | seems like mace-spececd |
15:07.42 | mjc | phyber: 10,000 gold in a monthish |
15:07.53 | phyber | ah, that much is a silly amount. :) |
15:09.35 | Mikma | lol... "TRading Glider Key For EU time card." |
15:09.42 | Mikma | "Trading WOW Account for Glider Key" |
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15:09.58 | mjc | heh |
15:10.10 | Wobin | Did you notice the new T&C? |
15:10.12 | mjc | merc is a friend of mine |
15:10.13 | Mikma | "i will trade 2 wow guest pass keys whit a wow glider key.. " |
15:10.17 | Wobin | It's a lot more legalistic now |
15:10.27 | phyber | Wobin: 1.11 live in the US now? |
15:10.40 | steino | yes |
15:10.41 | steino | ! |
15:10.44 | mjc | yeah, it is. |
15:10.47 | phyber | nice |
15:10.54 | mjc | no servers up yet though :P |
15:11.19 | phyber | d'oh :) |
15:12.31 | phyber | is the scourge invasion a limited time thing like opening the AQ gates, or will it just happen forever, moving around various zones once in a while? |
15:13.06 | Shyva | the event stops after 2 weeks iirc |
15:13.38 | phyber | aww. oh well, will be fun for a while :) |
15:13.42 | Wobin | "http://www.kickassapps.com/wowmap/" |
15:13.45 | Wobin | er |
15:13.52 | Wobin | bag |
15:13.54 | Wobin | bah |
15:13.57 | Wobin | can't cp/ps |
15:13.57 | Tain | Wobin stop the hacks! |
15:14.15 | mjc | kickassmap needs a bit of work before it's really useful |
15:14.27 | phyber | there are some great buffs in this patch! (reading patch notes) |
15:14.28 | phyber | <PROTECTED> |
15:14.29 | phyber | Low level boars/wolves drop boar meat and wolf meat much more frequently now to facilitate cooking |
15:14.33 | phyber | awesome ;) |
15:14.38 | mjc | lol |
15:14.40 | Tain | kickassmap will just get more people banned. |
15:14.45 | Wobin | damn |
15:14.54 | mjc | Tain: there hasn't been one reported banning for it yet |
15:14.54 | Wobin | the group pulls before Drakkisath are now properly linked |
15:15.04 | mjc | Wobin: fuck! |
15:15.06 | Tain | Yet. :) |
15:15.15 | mjc | Tain: it's been around for a long ass time |
15:15.16 | Wobin | phyber: Yeah... all those recipes with no meat =P |
15:15.26 | Industrial | paradise lost - in all honesty |
15:15.43 | mjc | Tain: glider hasn't got anyone smart banned either |
15:15.50 | Wobin | woohoo |
15:16.00 | Wobin | Range for ress is the same whether the target has released or not |
15:17.10 | Tain | mjc I know all about glider, and yes people do get banned for being stupid. But it's still just a matter of playing the odds. |
15:17.18 | MoonWolf | what is glider ? |
15:17.23 | Tain | A wow bot. |
15:17.29 | Wobin | It's a 3rdparty botting prgram |
15:17.39 | MoonWolf | They should get banned. |
15:17.43 | Wobin | have a look at wwww.wowglide.com I think it is |
15:17.47 | mjc | wowglider.com |
15:17.51 | Tain | And a pretty crappy one. :) |
15:18.03 | mjc | crappy? it's better than all the others :p |
15:18.08 | Tain | Now WoWSharp! That was a bot system! |
15:18.34 | mjc | yeah, except everyone that used wow!sharp for any length of time got banned |
15:18.56 | mjc | glider's getting better, it doesn't need macros anymore, or chat/combat logs |
15:18.57 | Tain | Of course they did. |
15:19.17 | mjc | and he's working on an auto-repair feature |
15:19.33 | Tain | That's all any bots are, a temporary cheat you can use until you get banned. The length of time just varies depending on the person, and how you use it. |
15:19.59 | Mikma | http://www.gamerking.com/index.php?openg=73&id=380 WOHOO! |
15:20.20 | Mikma | hurry everyone! empty your visa and order some WoW gold!!!11oneone |
15:20.36 | mjc | glider is a far better source of gold than buying it, haha |
15:20.44 | phyber | Can I pay my mortgate with WoW gold? |
15:20.55 | haste_ | 1.11 Interface version is 11100 right? |
15:21.05 | MoonWolf | Blizzard might be artificially keeping glider around so the kiddies dont find something more advanced. |
15:21.36 | mjc | MoonWolf: merc is just good enough to keep it from getting detected by their automated stuff |
15:21.55 | mjc | as long as a human doesn't see you doing something suspicious, you're fine |
15:22.02 | *** join/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=kcummins@proxy-ce4.disney.com) |
15:22.05 | MoonWolf | Merc ? |
15:22.11 | mjc | mercury |
15:22.14 | mjc | its creator |
15:22.19 | MoonWolf | AHA |
15:23.32 | Industrial | Theres another cheat |
15:23.33 | Industrial | :-) |
15:23.38 | Tain | There's plenty of them. |
15:24.09 | Tain | If someone really wants to use them they're not hard to find. |
15:24.15 | Mikma | I got the best cheat available... |
15:24.18 | MoonWolf | wowemu and the likes are way more interesting then hacks anyway. |
15:24.20 | Tain | As long as you don't mind losing your account. |
15:24.23 | Mikma | haven't used it much but i'm planning on |
15:24.25 | phyber | <PROTECTED> |
15:24.27 | phyber | SetCursor() can now be passed a 32x32 texture filename, as well as a cursor mode, or nil to reset the cursor. |
15:24.33 | phyber | so, we'll see Cursor skinning packs? |
15:24.34 | Mikma | it's Called "life" and it starts when i close this laptop |
15:24.36 | Tain | Yeah phyber! |
15:24.48 | mjc | phyber: yep |
15:24.51 | phyber | cool |
15:25.26 | MoonWolf | aina! |
15:25.42 | Mikma | np: http://www.philosomatika.com :) |
15:25.53 | CIA-18 | 03otravi 07otravi * r3007 10otravi_UnitFrames/ (6 files in 6 dirs): oUF2 - Updated all TOCs to 1.11 |
15:25.57 | Mikma | been listening to it for 1h47min now |
15:26.50 | mjc | meh |
15:27.02 | Industrial | Your doom is nigh though you see it not, our forces ride and your hope will rot! |
15:27.06 | mjc | I never really liked oUF |
15:27.31 | mjc | I like archud but it doesn't hide the party frame and I'm far too lazy today to do anything about it :p |
15:27.44 | Industrial | Scream and run, run and fall. Fall and burn, burn and die. Die and rot, rot in hell! damn you all! |
15:28.03 | MoonWolf | that sounds a lot better if you hear it said . |
15:28.09 | Industrial | yeah |
15:28.13 | Mikma | Industrial: damz you too!11 |
15:28.20 | Industrial | Mikma: ;D |
15:28.36 | Mikma | oooh! |
15:28.52 | Mikma | Sesto Sento - Cookie Stealer (GMS remix) now on philo |
15:28.53 | mjc | perfectraid is really nice too. again too lazy to set it up in party mode instead of raid mode :P |
15:29.10 | Industrial | mjc: make your own |
15:29.11 | Industrial | :D |
15:29.50 | mjc | Industrial: I rather like the archud and PR interfaces, just I'm too lazy to fix the things I do't like about them right now |
15:30.10 | Industrial | its fun to learn |
15:30.10 | Industrial | :P |
15:30.54 | phyber | "The interface event processing has been optimized while zoning." Does that mean we can stop puting the PLAYER_<wibble>_WORLD stuff in our addons now? |
15:31.01 | mjc | Industrial: I've got enough experience with LUA programming in WoW to want to stab blizzard in the face:D |
15:31.15 | *** join/#wowace gnorlish (n=jaydee@ny-lackawannacadent4-chtwga3b-b-121.buf.adelphia.net) |
15:31.17 | Mikma | phyber: yeah i think they fixed it |
15:31.22 | mjc | phyber: believe so |
15:31.58 | wereHamster | no more PEW while zoning? |
15:33.11 | Tekkub | what? busy.... |
15:33.17 | mjc | fucking annoying that every time i disconnect my bluetooth mouse i have to reset the dashboard and expose shortcuts =( |
15:33.44 | Mikma | lol |
15:33.57 | mjc | wrote an applescript to do it for me though :P |
15:34.01 | Mikma | something nasty is going on with your osx |
15:34.20 | mjc | Mikma: fresh install does it too |
15:35.01 | mjc | naxxramas is still pretty much pointless btw |
15:35.23 | mjc | my guild on mug'thol got on the test server and had a GM handing out free repairs and flasks and stuff |
15:35.50 | mjc | full BWL gear on basically everyone... tanks had 10kish hp and they all get oneshotted |
15:36.21 | Mikma | neat |
15:36.34 | mjc | frustrating |
15:36.36 | Ratbert_CP | Tekkub: I was wondering if there was an element category that contained the profession "weapons". i.e., Fishing Pole is a subclass of weapon, but a player doesn't have the "Fishing Pole" skill... |
15:37.12 | Ratbert_CP | Obviously, I can create my own element category, but if you or your minions had already done the legwork... :)( |
15:37.17 | CIA-18 | 03otravi 07otravi * r3008 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: |
15:37.17 | CIA-18 | oUF2: |
15:37.17 | CIA-18 | - Coloring of debuffs on the party frames. Most likely 1.11 only. |
15:37.17 | CIA-18 | - Ability to only show dispellable debuffs (Interface Options). |
15:37.22 | Ratbert_CP | s/)(/)/ |
15:37.39 | Mikma | haste_: I love you! |
15:38.13 | haste_ | Test if it works btw :p |
15:38.16 | gnorlish | i forgot where i read a post about how high-end raiding is progressing |
15:38.24 | Mikma | haste_: i'm on it |
15:38.25 | mjc | crappily |
15:38.38 | gnorlish | but the guy made a good point when he said that all that's really happening is that timing has to be more and more precise |
15:38.49 | gnorlish | b/c bosses simply hit harder and faster |
15:40.44 | mjc | 'temporary item buffs will persist through zoning or logging out' finally fuckin a |
15:40.48 | *** join/#wowace Neronix (i=neronix@84.68.133.107) |
15:40.50 | mjc | poisons won't be wasted anymore woot |
15:41.18 | gnorlish | i'll believe that when windfury holds |
15:41.22 | gnorlish | i didn't get to check on test |
15:41.34 | gnorlish | along with my 2h axe/mace skill staying 300 |
15:41.47 | mjc | it held |
15:42.07 | Ratbert_CP | bouncing to circumvent firewall... |
15:42.23 | mjc | chain targetted spells don't affect stealth yay |
15:43.28 | Amadeo | where are the patch notes? main page? |
15:43.30 | mjc | I like that PoM stays when you use AE |
15:43.32 | *** join/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=kcummins@adsl-71-147-10-6.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
15:43.40 | mjc | Amadeo: they show up while thepatch is applying :P |
15:44.07 | Amadeo | oh, I'm not that far yet :P |
15:44.20 | mjc | use a torrent client to download the patch |
15:44.25 | mjc | instead of blizzard's retarded shit |
15:44.32 | Amadeo | I don't have the torrent for it |
15:44.41 | mjc | it's inside the patcher |
15:44.47 | mjc | wowtorrentex if you're on windows |
15:44.53 | Amadeo | thanks :) |
15:44.55 | mjc | or just get the torrent from inside the .app if you're on a mac |
15:45.03 | Tain | However if you use the patcher you can save yourself some time because some files were preloaded. |
15:45.13 | Mikma | Wobin: after using /script PlowKingDB = nil and /rl the windows seem to align nicely on my screen, even with big backpacks |
15:45.26 | Amadeo | Tain: I turned that off :( |
15:45.32 | Tain | I flew to 83% before it even slowed down to start downloading. |
15:45.34 | mjc | Tain: you just point it at the wow-patch folder |
15:45.41 | Tain | And was finished in 15 minutes or so. |
15:45.42 | mjc | the torrent client |
15:45.46 | Industrial | \m/ >_< \m/ |
15:46.47 | Amadeo | My Warrior is finally getting decent gear |
15:46.52 | Amadeo | I notice I have better +stats than some 60's |
15:47.01 | mjc | torrent client snagged the whole thing at 800K/s for me, where blizz's downloader didn't even start |
15:47.04 | MoonWolf | warriors are very much a gear class |
15:47.32 | Tain | All meleers are. |
15:47.40 | Amadeo | MoonWolf: Yeah, my next goal is the damn Ice Barbed Spear, but Alliance never f'ing wins AV on Akama |
15:47.41 | Wobin | Mikma: You can use 'flatten' to simulate that for existing windows |
15:47.55 | mjc | ToU hasn't changed since june 05 |
15:48.08 | mjc | Amadeo: you don't hav eto win to get it anymore |
15:48.08 | Amadeo | Tain: You can get by easier on other melee classes, I believe |
15:48.12 | Mikma | Wobin: ok so that's what's it for |
15:48.15 | Neronix | Ah, patch day |
15:48.17 | Amadeo | mjc: Huh? What do you mean? |
15:48.25 | mjc | Amadeo: you just have to complete a battle |
15:48.39 | Amadeo | I think you have to kill the general |
15:48.47 | Amadeo | I've completed them but it hasn't gotten me anywhere |
15:49.03 | Tain | I dunno Amadeo, well actually yeah you have more options with other melee classses. If you're losing a fight as a Paladin or Rogue you can do other things. As a Warrior you better be equipped enough to win the fight or you're done. |
15:49.26 | Amadeo | Tain: I just mean because certain abilities like Eviscerate aren't based on weapon damage and such |
15:49.27 | Tain | So I have changed my stance on the point! |
15:49.54 | Amadeo | Execute is the same way, but I can't do that much :( |
15:49.54 | mjc | pallies have bubblehearth regardless of gear :D |
15:49.59 | Amadeo | haha |
15:50.02 | Mikma | and i must repeat, TheoryCraft looks nice, it can label the damage/heal buttons with the average damage/heal they do |
15:50.26 | MoonWolf | Bubblehearth is a myth |
15:50.34 | MoonWolf | i have yet to see one actually do that . |
15:50.39 | Amadeo | seriously? |
15:50.50 | Neronix | I did |
15:50.57 | Mikma | i once made an addon to do the same, indie might remember it :) |
15:50.57 | Neronix | only once though :P |
15:51.06 | Industrial | no :< |
15:51.23 | Mikma | no? you tried to code a better version of it too |
15:51.37 | Industrial | what kinda of |
15:51.42 | Mikma | ButtonNamer |
15:51.54 | Industrial | dinnae :S |
15:51.58 | MoonWolf | wb cair |
15:52.03 | MoonWolf | wowi is doing good so far. |
15:52.15 | Mikma | just a sec i'll paste url when i find it |
15:52.20 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3457-1-buttonnamer-02.html |
15:52.54 | Amadeo | here's a pic from a LONG time ago |
15:52.58 | Amadeo | http://zenon.kills.us/joriusloses.jpg |
15:53.03 | Amadeo | it's no myth! |
15:53.30 | Industrial | Mikma: i really cant remember wanting to redo that |
15:54.03 | Mikma | yeah you did but you weren't playing wow back then |
15:54.22 | Mikma | so nobody tested it and i let it go |
15:54.33 | mjc | Mikma: I like that |
15:54.35 | mjc | ace it |
15:54.35 | mjc | :P |
15:54.36 | MoonWolf | Industrial, can you write a plugin for abinfo for Idactionbuttons ? |
15:54.57 | Mikma | mjc: sorry it was way too complicated to me either without ace :D |
15:55.05 | Industrial | i use RedRange and omniCC |
15:55.06 | Industrial | :X |
15:55.18 | MoonWolf | but i dont get spell uses with that do i ? |
15:55.32 | Industrial | they are normal action buttons |
15:55.34 | Industrial | should work |
15:55.47 | mjc | Mikma: commit it to ace svn at least, let someone else do the work :D |
15:56.16 | Mikma | mjc: well sure, i can do that but i still don't think anyone else than you and me would be interested :) just a sec |
15:56.34 | Amadeo | mjc: Are you sure of the Ice Barbed Spear thing? |
15:57.00 | mjc | Amadeo: my hunter got it without having won an AV, I don't know if the general was killed, it was right after 1.10 |
15:57.15 | mjc | if your faction loses, just lead the raids |
15:57.17 | mjc | simple |
15:57.38 | Amadeo | but if the general is killed, you win! |
15:58.13 | Amadeo | Opera 9.0 is out |
16:00.42 | Amadeo | I love Opera, but it has problems with a lot of sites :( |
16:03.10 | Amadeo | if it had better compatibility, I can't imagine anyone would use another browser |
16:03.39 | hyperChipmunk | newwwwwwwwwww arrmoooooooooorz |
16:03.52 | Amadeo | haha |
16:03.56 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
16:03.58 | Amadeo | yeah, time to rerank for me |
16:04.21 | hyperChipmunk | the new pvp update is going to increase my TOTAL agi by 24%, int by 23%, armor by 21% |
16:04.34 | hyperChipmunk | two more % crit, one more % hit |
16:04.37 | Amadeo | yeah, and you don't even have to do anything! |
16:04.45 | mjc | hyperChipmunk: paladin? |
16:04.50 | hyperChipmunk | hunter |
16:04.52 | mjc | ah |
16:04.54 | mjc | meh |
16:04.59 | hyperChipmunk | that's my TOTAL stats |
16:05.02 | hyperChipmunk | including all my other gear |
16:05.09 | hyperChipmunk | I'm getting 98 agi O_o |
16:05.34 | hyperChipmunk | about 700 armor |
16:05.39 | hyperChipmunk | and like 50 int |
16:05.52 | Amadeo | how much stamina? |
16:06.11 | mjc | hunters don't give a shit about stam |
16:06.14 | hyperChipmunk | like 10, but the set was already disgustingly sta-heavy |
16:06.16 | hyperChipmunk | I do |
16:06.20 | hyperChipmunk | survival hunter |
16:06.23 | Amadeo | everyone gives a shit about Stamina! |
16:06.34 | CIA-18 | 03tekkub * r3009 10PatchTorrents/ (. WoW.1.10.2.5302-to-1.11.0.5428-enUS.torrent): |
16:06.34 | CIA-18 | Patch Torrents |
16:06.34 | CIA-18 | - Added 1.10.2.5302 to 1.11.0.5428 enUS patch, because blizzard's download is a pain in the ass |
16:06.38 | Tekkub | ENJOY! |
16:06.42 | Amadeo | :D |
16:07.03 | hyperChipmunk | the 6 pieces of the pvp armor set had like 20 more sta than the 8 pieces of the tier 2 set, to begin with |
16:07.03 | MoonWolf | great |
16:07.13 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@204.90.50.252) |
16:07.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
16:07.18 | CIA-18 | 03otravi 07otravi * r3010 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Fixed the MobHealth2 support. |
16:07.44 | Neronix | What was broke? O.o |
16:07.54 | hyperChipmunk | if there was no data |
16:07.58 | hyperChipmunk | it displayed as 0/0 |
16:08.05 | Neronix | Ah, I didn't mind that |
16:08.14 | Neronix | Though my implementation had a check for it :P |
16:08.19 | Tem | haste_, did you fix oRA yet? |
16:08.38 | hyperChipmunk | I had that in my implementation, but I think I forgot to put it in the pastebin i posted =P |
16:09.07 | hyperChipmunk | either that or he just ignored it =) |
16:09.23 | CIA-18 | 03mikma * r3011 10ButtonNamer/: ButtonNamer: Initial Import, open for development |
16:09.28 | mjc | yay. |
16:09.32 | Ratbert_CP | Hmmm... Bad Torrents!?! |
16:09.34 | Ratbert_CP | [2006-06-20 09:08:24] "wow-patch" : bad data from tracker - not a valid bencoded string |
16:09.35 | Ratbert_CP | [2006-06-20 09:09:24] "wow-patch" : bad data from tracker - not a valid bencoded string |
16:09.35 | Ratbert_CP | [2006-06-20 09:11:15] (global message) : This is not a valid torrent file. (invalid bencoded value (data after valid prefix)) |
16:09.35 | Ratbert_CP | [2006-06-20 09:11:23] (global message) : This is not a valid torrent file. (invalid bencoded value (data after valid prefix)) |
16:09.51 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
16:09.54 | hyperChipmunk | hoho denied |
16:09.55 | Neronix | Must be something SVN did to it O.o |
16:09.58 | Mikma | mjc: uploading files soon |
16:10.04 | haste_ | Tem, I'm unable to patch to 1.11 PTR |
16:10.14 | Ratbert_CP | First two errors were from the wowtorrentex2 extraction |
16:10.19 | haste_ | and I'm unable to extract the 1.11 PTR MPQs |
16:10.36 | Ratbert_CP | The last two were from SVN |
16:10.41 | Tem | well, patch today |
16:10.45 | Tem | so eeuh |
16:10.49 | mjc | Ratbert_CP: wowtorrentex2 worked for me |
16:10.54 | Tem | I raid at 8 |
16:10.56 | haste_ | Tem, I play EU so |
16:11.03 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
16:11.06 | hyperChipmunk | i just finished patching wee |
16:11.07 | haste_ | I can't do shit before tomorrow |
16:11.10 | haste_ | and then I start working also :p |
16:11.28 | hyperChipmunk | now only 2 more hours of weeping at the login |
16:11.30 | Tem | so, what you're saying is I'm boned? |
16:11.38 | mjc | haste_: you can use my spare account on .us |
16:11.49 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: what's wrong with it? |
16:11.51 | Neronix | Oo, who got rev 3k? |
16:11.53 | Ratbert_CP | Wait a second... Does BitTorrent get pissy if you already have a partial D/L from the Blizz "tool"? |
16:11.54 | haste_ | nah, updated the raidsay at least |
16:12.05 | Tem | hyperChipmunk, well, they changed the ready check stuff |
16:12.09 | Tem | and blizzard's version sucks |
16:12.09 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
16:12.57 | mjc | Ratbert_CP: no |
16:13.08 | mjc | haste_: do you have the US version available? |
16:13.10 | CIA-18 | 03mikma * r3012 10ButtonNamer/ButtonNamer.lua: Bartender: 0.2 Version, works for default ActionBars. Does not work properly when swapping Bars. |
16:13.18 | haste_ | mjc, no, I don't |
16:13.27 | Mikma | whatta... |
16:13.42 | mjc | haste_: sec, I can provide a private torrent ;D |
16:13.47 | Mikma | why in the hell it only committed that one when i selected and added all |
16:14.01 | hyperChipmunk | because you didn't change the others? |
16:14.15 | Tain | I'm so happy they increased the stack sizes to 20 for a bunch of things. |
16:14.18 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: they are all new files |
16:14.53 | CIA-18 | 03mikma * r3013 10ButtonNamer/ (ButtonNamer.toc ButtonNamer.xml): Bartender: trying to add rest of the files ^^ |
16:15.57 | Mikma | there, all 3 files added :P have fun testing mjc |
16:16.08 | Ratbert_CP | mjc: Is there a better torrent app than BitTorrent.com's? |
16:16.15 | Tain | uTorrent! |
16:16.15 | mjc | Ratbert_CP: fuck yes |
16:16.17 | mjc | uTorrent |
16:16.20 | mjc | azureus |
16:16.25 | Ratbert_CP | :) |
16:16.26 | mjc | there are a lot of them |
16:16.27 | Shyva | uTorrent is the best there is! :-D |
16:16.28 | haste_ | uTorrent for windows indeed |
16:16.30 | Tain | If you're on Windows use uTorrent. |
16:16.35 | Ratbert_CP | Maybe that's the problem... |
16:16.49 | mjc | Ratbert_CP: redownload the downloader exe first |
16:17.16 | Ratbert_CP | Huh? |
16:17.19 | Neronix | Ratbert_CP: Never, ever, ever use BT.com's |
16:17.23 | mjc | the wow downloader thing |
16:17.29 | mjc | it sounds like it was corrupted |
16:17.35 | Ratbert_CP | OK... |
16:17.38 | Neronix | it's sucky and iirc, doesn't try to support protocol extensions |
16:17.45 | Neronix | And Bram Cohen's a sellout |
16:17.58 | MoonWolf | Ofcourse he is |
16:18.03 | hyperChipmunk | tell us how you really feel |
16:18.08 | MoonWolf | i would be to if i invent the new internet protocol of this age. |
16:18.48 | hyperChipmunk | can someone pastebin the Patch.txt from the wowtest directory for me? |
16:19.03 | Tain | Yeah really, you can call me a sellout all you want on my way to the bank. |
16:19.21 | MoonWolf | tain, my point exactly |
16:19.31 | *** join/#wowace ariose (n=waffle@ppp-70-247-190-157.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
16:20.09 | hyperChipmunk | anybodyanybody? |
16:20.15 | ariose | what's the location of aceheal? i don't see it in my repos. browser looking at http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk |
16:20.25 | Neronix | Well, he could've sold out in a good way, but now he speaks for Hollywood and isn't too interested in working with the community |
16:20.29 | mjc | I don't think it's in the svn |
16:20.41 | Neronix | hyperChipmunk: I just deleted mine :( |
16:20.44 | MoonWolf | can someone pass me the executable for downloading the patch ? |
16:20.53 | mjc | MoonWolf: you can't run the program? |
16:20.55 | MoonWolf | ill see if i can extract the torrent for you. |
16:20.59 | MoonWolf | europe. |
16:21.02 | mjc | ah |
16:21.07 | mjc | I have the .torrent |
16:21.11 | mjc | let me put it on my website |
16:21.11 | MoonWolf | nevermind then. |
16:21.25 | MoonWolf | i thought tekkubs torrent was corrupt or something. |
16:21.38 | hyperChipmunk | no, just tekkub |
16:21.44 | MoonWolf | so i wanted to help a bit. |
16:21.48 | Wobin | ariose: It should be there... |
16:21.55 | Kebinusan | aceheal is in branch I think |
16:22.27 | MoonWolf | not to mention dll's , direct x en all that good stuff |
16:22.32 | MoonWolf | dont tell to many people though. |
16:22.43 | ariose | ah. yes. it is in /branches |
16:23.07 | mjc | 325i.org/wow |
16:23.07 | Wobin | ah yes there it is |
16:23.13 | Wobin | I'd already switched =) |
16:23.17 | mjc | http://325i.org/wow even |
16:23.46 | Tekkub | the torrent works for me... |
16:24.04 | Tekkub | granted it's only .1% done tho... hrm... |
16:24.08 | MoonWolf | maybe the svn fucked it up ? |
16:24.10 | mjc | haste_: 10 minutes on having a private US torrent for you :P |
16:24.16 | Tekkub | 1 seed, 413 peers |
16:24.17 | MoonWolf | although it should not do that |
16:24.20 | haste_ | ;O |
16:24.21 | Ratbert_CP | uTorrent seems to be taking the torrent... |
16:24.21 | mjc | Tekkub: I went to 100% on mine |
16:24.27 | mjc | using utorrent |
16:24.32 | MoonWolf | utorrent = love. |
16:25.15 | Tekkub | yea utorrent grabbed it fine, but it only sees one seed |
16:25.18 | haste_ | I miss uTorrent :( |
16:25.21 | Codayus | Hm |
16:25.25 | mjc | I have a couple hundred, tek |
16:25.28 | Codayus | Hey, anyone got an actual torrent for the patch? |
16:25.30 | Tekkub | maybe THAT is why blizzy's downloader sucks... |
16:25.35 | mjc | Codayus: http://325i.org/wow |
16:25.52 | mjc | Tekkub: upnp = win |
16:26.03 | Tain | hehe I always have great luck with the Blizzard downloader. |
16:26.14 | Tain | Of course that doesn't mean I always use it. |
16:26.21 | Tain | But when I do! It works fine for me. |
16:26.44 | Tekkub | mjc, I have a dedicated torrent box |
16:26.45 | Codayus | I hate it. :-) |
16:26.47 | MoonWolf | blizzard has a great patching system anyway |
16:26.47 | mjc | blizz's downloader is almost exactly the same as the bittorrent.com one |
16:26.50 | Tekkub | no need for UPnP |
16:26.50 | mjc | Tekkub: ah |
16:26.53 | MoonWolf | no download 888000 patches |
16:27.03 | MoonWolf | and applying them one by one when you reisntall. |
16:27.11 | Tain | Yeah that's always fun with games. |
16:27.21 | mjc | MoonWolf: to go from 1.0.0 to 1.10.2 I had to apply like fourish |
16:27.23 | Tekkub | blizzy's downloader used to work fine for me, now it hates me, nothing has changed on my network |
16:27.25 | mjc | was a pain |
16:28.00 | MoonWolf | mjc, try eeuh most other MMO's out there |
16:28.03 | MoonWolf | and i think it was 3 |
16:28.09 | mjc | MoonWolf: I don't play other MMOs. |
16:28.13 | mjc | and I probably won't |
16:28.23 | MoonWolf | one 1.00 to 1.10 one 1.10 to 1.10.1 and one 1.10.1 to 1.10.2 |
16:28.25 | Tekkub | FFXI's patcher always ran fine |
16:28.27 | mjc | too much of a time investment, WoW rewards much better |
16:28.46 | Mikma | mm, maybe i should later combine ButtonNamer and Bartender + make it use DewdropLib |
16:28.50 | MoonWolf | I played some lineage 2 on a pricate server that was bad. |
16:28.53 | mjc | Mikma: yes! |
16:28.59 | MoonWolf | and ragnarok online :O :( |
16:29.07 | Neronix | I played RO private servers |
16:29.25 | mjc | every MMO except wow that I know anyone that played put an immense amount of work into something that gave shitty rewards |
16:29.39 | Neronix | The decent ones were run an order of magnitude better than Gravity evenr hoped to |
16:29.40 | MoonWolf | I would not play RO on a normal server if they payed me to do it. |
16:29.44 | mjc | blizz has the upgrade system right |
16:29.46 | Neronix | s/evenr/ever |
16:29.58 | Neronix | I even helped rune one at one time |
16:30.26 | Neronix | s/rune/run |
16:30.32 | Neronix | but it couldn't take off. No chance in hell of getting users because the market's so frickin saturated |
16:30.33 | Tain | Ah see I think if you look for rewards in the game more than "enjoying playing with people" you're going to be disappointed eventually. |
16:30.37 | MoonWolf | RO servers were mostly places to have fun anyway. |
16:30.39 | mjc | Neronix: unterminated regex |
16:30.48 | Neronix | mjc: I noticed :P |
16:31.11 | mjc | s^run^run/^\ |
16:31.14 | MoonWolf | with all the funky weird stuff you could get. |
16:31.23 | mjc | s/^\/^/ |
16:31.44 | Neronix | At any one time, there's 3 huge uberpopular servers, 2 dozen not so huge and uberpopular but still great places and 10^googol shitty, shity ones |
16:31.45 | mjc | bah! |
16:31.51 | mjc | s/^\\/^/ |
16:31.51 | Tekkub | *pokes muTorrent with a stick |
16:32.08 | Tekkub | ah better, a restart of muTorrent got it downloading |
16:32.09 | mjc | Tekkub: my dedicated torrent box uses rtorrent |
16:32.16 | haste_ | I use rtorrent :p |
16:32.41 | Tekkub | I use Azureus, now muTorrent... need to get RSS working completely tho |
16:32.44 | mjc | meh, only getting 5MB/s at the moment =( |
16:32.58 | Tekkub | but rssfwd keeps me up to date in case the RSS downloader misses something |
16:33.11 | Tekkub | 56.7 kB/s |
16:33.20 | Tekkub | whichever k and B mu uses... |
16:33.52 | mjc | I'm downloading the US install on my dedicated box so I can prod haste_ to fix ora before my raid :D |
16:34.14 | haste_ | Good that I'm not raiding today :p |
16:35.24 | CIA-18 | 03neronix * r3014 10/branches/Lexan-Ace2/: Created folder remotely |
16:35.26 | gnorlish | from looking at the info on utorrent |
16:35.28 | mjc | haste_: if I poke my guild hard enough they'd let you come on one of my chars :D |
16:35.32 | gnorlish | it seems much better than azureus? |
16:35.35 | gnorlish | resource-wise? |
16:35.37 | mjc | gnorlish: yes |
16:35.41 | Neronix | Hell yes |
16:35.48 | mjc | order of magnitude |
16:35.58 | Neronix | It starts in 5 seconds at the absolute maximum |
16:36.08 | Neronix | Azureus took 30 secs for me |
16:36.22 | Neronix | Uses about 5-7mb at any one time, Azureus >100mb |
16:36.43 | Neronix | Only issue I have with it is that its closed source |
16:37.05 | mjc | and platform dependant |
16:37.14 | hyperChipmunk | and no linux, yea |
16:37.26 | mjc | I run it on darwine though |
16:37.56 | gnorlish | i'll have to try it out, azureus hurts when i'm running wow on one monitor and surfing the net + watching a movie on the other |
16:38.20 | mjc | you'll love it. |
16:38.26 | CIA-18 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3015 10Lexan-Ace2/: Lexan (Ace2 conversion) - Creating branch to convert Lexan to Ace2. Will act as a real-world type test for it. |
16:38.38 | Neronix | You could easily run ut and wow at the same time, if you have the bandwidth :P |
16:38.40 | mjc | lexan is fun |
16:38.52 | Neronix | /cheer |
16:39.45 | haste_ | I need to convert oUF2 into Ace2 also :p |
16:39.49 | mjc | the fuck is my keyboard |
16:39.52 | Amadeo | Ace2 is out? |
16:39.58 | haste_ | not really |
16:40.02 | mjc | ah, it was hiding |
16:40.45 | Neronix`afk | Amadeo: It's still in earlyish beta |
16:41.09 | Amadeo | I see |
16:41.19 | Amadeo | Anyone happen to know how to extract the music from Half Life 2? haha |
16:41.20 | Tekkub | I think we need to rally slouken to make the CTRA channel an in-game thing |
16:41.30 | Tekkub | then we can drop CTRA completely |
16:41.40 | Mikma | hey, about Ace2... is it an required addon or does it only provide libraries which will be included within addon? |
16:41.53 | Tekkub | just give us a starndarized, not displayed chat channel for the party/raid |
16:42.03 | [Ammo] | Tekkub: but still use it for item checks etc |
16:42.07 | Shyva | you're in the usa right? ask him |
16:42.41 | Tekkub | yea ammo, the "standard" for the comm useage is already there, just make the channel shit in-game like the raidsay/raidwarning channel is now |
16:44.01 | [Ammo] | yeah |
16:45.05 | Kebinusan | that would be nice |
16:45.21 | Kebinusan | tired of 20 mods using 10 different comm channels |
16:45.46 | Tekkub | yea, and it would honestly kill any "need" for CTRA |
16:46.09 | [Ammo] | the raidwarning channel overhead display doesn't show the author right? |
16:46.11 | Tekkub | mods could still be used for dura checks and the like, but it wouldn't rely on CTRA/oRA to manage the channel |
16:46.13 | CIA-18 | 03otravi * r3016 10oRA_RaidSay/oRA_RaidSay.lua: oRA_RaidSay - Now sends over the Raid Warning channel (I hope). |
16:46.17 | mjc | all of my mods share the CTRA channel we use |
16:46.23 | Tekkub | do believe so ammooo |
16:46.43 | [Ammo] | kinda sucky |
16:47.07 | Tekkub | why? |
16:47.19 | [Ammo] | well I like to see who's spamming :p |
16:47.26 | [Ammo] | guess I can see it from the chatframe |
16:47.27 | [Ammo] | but still |
16:47.35 | Tekkub | ah, the info may be passed with the event |
16:47.45 | Tekkub | it doesn't go to the chat frame |
16:47.51 | Tekkub | it goes to an overhead frame |
16:48.03 | [Ammo] | I thought I saw a Raidwarning channel in some movies from PTR |
16:48.14 | [Ammo] | maybe you can turn it on/ |
16:48.21 | Tekkub | I dunno, maybe |
16:48.28 | Kebinusan | you know ammo I was thinking about the C'Thun timer thing, if we dont sync the start of the fight then even if we adjust the start time, we're still going to have people with timer bars that are off |
16:48.37 | Tekkub | but by default it goes to an overhead frame like UIErrorsFrame |
16:48.39 | Kebinusan | its really a problem for just about any fight |
16:49.10 | Tekkub | it's funny, the whole code of the thing is like a dozen lines at best :) |
16:49.10 | Tekkub | it's extremely simple |
16:49.50 | Kebinusan | or at least the slight delay between the time you get aggro and the time of the zonewide combat pulse |
16:50.13 | Tekkub | going into combat is very susceptable to lag |
16:50.18 | Tekkub | but then so is comm... |
16:50.22 | Tekkub | so yea... |
16:50.38 | Kebinusan | yeah but on c'thun for example, some peopel were having timers 10 seconds off |
16:50.38 | Tekkub | comm messages should be your first priorty, combat being a backup detection |
16:50.47 | Kebinusan | because they never saw the first eye beam event |
16:50.59 | Tekkub | yea, that's the point of sync :P |
16:51.13 | Tekkub | use every method you can to detect it, and take the first one you see |
16:51.18 | Kebinusan | yeah, hence me saying its probably going to be needed |
16:51.23 | [Ammo] | well for now I want to get the timings right for smoeone who does see the eye beam |
16:51.31 | [Ammo] | then I can worry about syncing those events |
16:51.35 | [Ammo] | I think |
16:52.00 | Tekkub | god I need a new guild that runs AQ40 and is closer to my schedule... |
16:52.05 | Tekkub | anyone want to help me? |
16:52.10 | mjc | sup |
16:52.14 | Kebinusan | come to shadowsong :-) |
16:52.15 | Tekkub | seriously, my guild is dying and I'm sick of this shit |
16:52.18 | mjc | ah |
16:52.20 | Tekkub | I want a healer now |
16:52.23 | mjc | transfer to magtheridon alliance :P |
16:52.27 | Mikma | I don't get it.. what does this last post got to do with MG2 download? http://wow.jaslaughter.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=899ሖ |
16:52.33 | Kebinusan | its carebear pve, and we have a reputation of being elitist jerks |
16:52.37 | mjc | or mug'thol horde |
16:52.43 | Tekkub | I don't PvP :) |
16:52.49 | Tekkub | and I hate elitists :) |
16:52.53 | *** join/#wowace CIA-10 (i=cia@cia.navi.cx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
16:52.57 | mjc | I don't pvp either |
16:52.59 | Tekkub | that's why I hang with the Ace crew *snicker* |
16:52.59 | Kebinusan | its not really elitist if you're better than everyone else |
16:53.01 | Kebinusan | ;-) |
16:53.03 | mjc | on a pvp server though |
16:53.07 | mjc | Tekkub: haha |
16:53.16 | Tekkub | I don't do PvP servers, period |
16:53.23 | Mikma | purl welcome CIA-10 |
16:53.24 | purl | [all in unison] Hi, CIA-10! |
16:53.25 | mjc | don't like getting ganked? |
16:53.33 | Kebinusan | heh you could come roll a druid or something here Tekk |
16:53.37 | Tekkub | no it's a waste of my time |
16:53.45 | Tekkub | I want a druid, yes :) |
16:53.54 | Shyva | priest is cooler :o |
16:53.58 | Mikma | druid <3 priest <3 |
16:53.58 | [Ammo] | levelling a char is meh |
16:54.05 | Tekkub | *shrug* I don't care I want fur |
16:54.10 | Mikma | lol |
16:54.15 | Kebinusan | yiff yiff |
16:54.19 | Mikma | fur-fetishist |
16:54.23 | Tekkub | and if it's horde I only play Orc and Tauren, and orcs have no class I want to be |
16:54.23 | hyperChipmunk | can someone please pastebin the Patch.txt from the WoWTest directory? |
16:54.26 | mjc | only place I have ever had a serious issue with ganking is silithus |
16:54.34 | wereHamster | ganking isn't that bad as it used to be.. at least on my realm |
16:54.42 | Kebinusan | yeah chip one sec |
16:54.47 | hyperChipmunk | awesome, thanks |
16:54.50 | Kebinusan | the one from the test or the actual patch |
16:54.54 | Tekkub | pasebin's being retarded |
16:54.55 | hyperChipmunk | from test |
16:55.03 | Tekkub | commit it to the torrent thing on the SVN :) |
16:55.21 | hyperChipmunk | there's usually subtle differences, and I like to run a diff on them to find out what they are |
16:55.22 | CIA-10 | 03otravi * r3017 10oRA/oRA.toc: oRA - Updated the TOC to 1.11. |
16:55.29 | hyperChipmunk | only I couldn't install the test patch |
16:55.34 | hyperChipmunk | so I don't have the test Patch.txt |
16:55.38 | mjc | omg |
16:55.43 | Kebinusan | hmm |
16:55.50 | Kebinusan | except that pastebin cant connect todatabase |
16:55.55 | Tekkub | 78.7% done... go g oMu |
16:55.59 | Tekkub | *go go Mu |
16:55.59 | CIA-10 | 03otravi * r3018 10oRA_Assist/oRA_Assist.toc: oRA_Assist - Updated the TOC to 1.11. |
16:56.05 | hyperChipmunk | pastebin.ca works |
16:56.06 | *** join/#wowace [ven] (n=ven@dynadsl-080-228-76-072.ewetel.net) |
16:56.15 | Tekkub | I now see... 12 seeds! |
16:56.15 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: pastebin.ca ? |
16:56.17 | CIA-10 | 03otravi * r3019 10oRA_Cooldowns/oRA_Cooldowns.toc: oRA_Cooldowns - Updated the TOC to 1.11. |
16:56.19 | mjc | I just sneezed into my water and iti went EVERYWHERE |
16:56.19 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
16:56.22 | hyperChipmunk | pastebin.ca rules |
16:56.38 | hyperChipmunk | and it isn't ever slow |
16:56.43 | Tekkub | *spits up mtndew laughing at mjc |
16:56.46 | CIA-10 | 03otravi * r3020 10oRA_Durability/oRA_Durability.toc: oRA_Durability - Updated the TOC to 1.11. |
16:56.51 | mjc | Tekkub: all over the walls |
16:56.54 | mjc | and the monitor |
16:56.55 | mjc | keyboard |
16:56.57 | mjc | two laptops |
16:56.59 | mjc | speakers |
16:57.09 | Mikma | ok, that sounds pro |
16:57.13 | Tekkub | hrm... I guess I should do the TOC bullshit to or I'll forget the meaningless numbers |
16:57.17 | mjc | im pro |
16:57.36 | hyperChipmunk | sed ftw |
16:57.55 | Mikma | how can you sneeze in water? |
16:57.56 | CIA-10 | 03otravi * r3021 10oRA_Item/oRA_Item.toc: oRA_Item - Updated the TOC to 1.11. |
16:58.00 | Tekkub | 11100? |
16:58.02 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
16:58.05 | [Ammo] | yarr |
16:58.14 | Wobin | Bah, Tekk |
16:58.32 | Wobin | I'd play with Cham and you, but we're never on at the same time =( |
16:58.34 | CIA-10 | 03tekkub * r3022 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs - TOC to the hand... |
16:58.45 | Wobin | Unless I start with the freaky sleeping patterns |
16:58.51 | CIA-10 | 03otravi * r3023 10oRA_MainTank/oRA_MainTank.toc: oRA_MainTank - Updated the TOC to 1.11. |
16:59.04 | Kebinusan | Chip: http://www.passage.bz/~kebinusan/patch.txt |
16:59.13 | CIA-10 | 03tekkub * r3024 10BossBlock/BossBlock.toc: BossBlock - TOC to the hand.... |
16:59.22 | CIA-10 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r3025 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/FuBar_BattlegroundFu.toc: |
16:59.22 | CIA-10 | FuBar_BattlegroundFu: |
16:59.23 | CIA-10 | - TOC to 11100 |
16:59.43 | CIA-10 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r3026 10BulkMail/BulkMail.toc: |
16:59.43 | CIA-10 | BulkMail: |
16:59.43 | CIA-10 | - TOC to 11100 |
16:59.45 | hyperChipmunk | thanks man |
16:59.55 | CIA-10 | 03otravi * r3027 10oRA_Ready/oRA_Ready.toc: oRA_Ready - Updated the TOC to 1.11. |
16:59.57 | CIA-10 | 03tekkub * r3028 10CompostLib/ (. CompostLib.toc): CompostLib - TOC to the hand.... |
17:00.17 | mjc | do them all at once guys |
17:00.30 | mjc | no point in making 5000 commits for a simple sed line |
17:00.31 | [Ammo] | more spam! |
17:00.39 | Tekkub | you know what, fuck it |
17:00.43 | Tekkub | I'll change em locally |
17:00.51 | [Ammo] | hehe |
17:00.53 | Tekkub | and they'll go up the next time I make a USEFUL change |
17:01.02 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I'd do that, but I only have 2 projects |
17:01.08 | hyperChipmunk | so best to get it out of the way |
17:01.23 | Tekkub | I hate TOC updates anyway, I don't want to promote mass updates for one tiny number change |
17:01.40 | phyber | if we all change our TOCs, we can get to the top of the CIA activity chart. |
17:01.49 | Kebinusan | I promote loading out of date addons |
17:02.09 | CIA-10 | 03otravi * r3029 10oRA_Resist/oRA_Resist.toc: oRA_Resist - Updated the TOC to 1.11. |
17:02.11 | haste_ | that should be all of them |
17:02.14 | hyperChipmunk | only diff between the test and the live versions is that the following entry doesn't appear in the live version: |
17:02.18 | hyperChipmunk | - Elemental Mastery: If you have this effect and Clearcasting at the same time, the Clearcasting effect will be consumed first. |
17:02.43 | Mikma | hiv-infections are rising again in europe :P |
17:03.50 | Mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4572-CastingBarTimer.html <- das sum nice texture! |
17:04.21 | Mikma | i wanna have that on my durid |
17:04.34 | [Ammo] | they look like some kid took a green grayon to the blizz textures |
17:04.44 | [Ammo] | crayon probably but shrug |
17:05.21 | Mikma | yeah, but how is that different from original textures then? ;) |
17:06.10 | [Ammo] | I never liked the original textures |
17:06.12 | [Ammo] | way too bulky |
17:10.42 | CIA-10 | 03tekkub * r3030 10ExpressMail/ (. ExpressMail.lua ExpressMail.toc): |
17:10.42 | CIA-10 | ExpressMail - Initial submission |
17:10.42 | CIA-10 | - Simple mailbox mod, makes shift-clicking a message in the inbox take the cash or item in the box. |
17:12.00 | CIA-10 | 03tekkub * r3031 10ExpressMail/ (ExpressMail.lua ExpressMail.toc): ExpressMail - Updated metadata |
17:12.17 | Amadeo | so now that 1.11 is here, I guess it's time to delete Catalyst |
17:12.21 | Wobin | Tekkub: And deletes the remainder? |
17:12.26 | Tekkub | no wob |
17:12.34 | Tekkub | auction auto-delete |
17:12.44 | Tekkub | I never sat down and got peoplemails to delete |
17:12.52 | Wobin | You need more bank alts |
17:13.44 | Amadeo | so for 1.11, Mages and Druids are invincible |
17:13.59 | gnorlish | ?_? |
17:14.13 | hyperChipmunk | ah and no-body messages delete automatically when their item is taken |
17:14.32 | hyperChipmunk | that's why bulkmail doesn't include write the silly 'item n of m' in the body field |
17:15.18 | hyperChipmunk | and Tekkub, you gonna relieve me from making an inbox handler for bulkmail? =) |
17:15.44 | hyperChipmunk | like the name too =) |
17:15.54 | Kebinusan | The last time I tried bulkmail I got kind of annoyed that if I typed in the player name after putting items in the window, I had to put the items in all over again |
17:16.13 | Wobin | poor shammies: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman&t=615735&p=1&tmp=1#post615735 |
17:16.15 | hyperChipmunk | there's a reason for that |
17:16.30 | Kebinusan | yeah I know, thats why I went back to CT_Mail mod |
17:16.36 | hyperChipmunk | =\ |
17:16.52 | *** join/#wowace Ratbert_C1 (n=kcummins@proxy-ce5.disney.com) |
17:17.35 | Mikma | Wobin: "Height, Level 60" .. doesn't say character :D |
17:17.54 | Wobin | Wuh? |
17:18.19 | Mikma | the author of the post doesn't have character listed hehe |
17:18.20 | hyperChipmunk | if the mail system didn't try to automatically fill in names, then it woulnd't be a problem; I'd just add autosend items when you reached the name |
17:18.30 | Mikma | oh, nobody has :P |
17:18.41 | Wobin | heh, I think that's a Blizzard forum problem atm, none of them are showing it |
17:18.42 | hyperChipmunk | but if you type in a name, you'll get the autosends of all of the intermediate names added to the list |
17:19.17 | Mikma | yeah hehe, maybe it won't work since servers are down? |
17:19.28 | haste_ | ~laziness |
17:19.30 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
17:20.16 | Wobin | hm |
17:20.38 | Wobin | I'm actually finding the WoWi - Lite version a whole lot easier to read |
17:20.42 | hyperChipmunk | say you have a friend called Fatman and an alt called Foo; you send the gems you get from mining to Fatman for his tradeskilling, and send random tradeskilling stuff of your own to Foo |
17:20.50 | hyperChipmunk | so, you want to send some stuff to Foo |
17:21.09 | Amadeo | is that what it is, Wobin? I was wondering why I didn't like it |
17:21.10 | Amadeo | haha |
17:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | you type F, and Fatman is autocompleted, and any gems you have get added to the send list |
17:21.51 | hyperChipmunk | then you type o, and it changes to autocomplete Foo, but if it didn't clear the list, you'd get Fatman's stuff going to Foo, which is not what you want |
17:22.47 | hyperChipmunk | and if you had stuff to send to Fonz, his stuff would be added on the way there |
17:22.56 | hyperChipmunk | and they'd all go to Foo |
17:23.21 | hyperChipmunk | the situation is inconsistent, and changes depending on the person's friendslist |
17:23.25 | Amadeo | Fonz?? Ayyyyy |
17:23.44 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
17:23.55 | hyperChipmunk | maybe I can tag manually-added items and not change those |
17:23.58 | Kebinusan | yeah, I tried it for a while, but I always forgot to type in my bank mules name before putting in the items |
17:24.09 | CIA-10 | 03thiana * r3032 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc): |
17:24.09 | CIA-10 | FuBar_tcgTradeskills: |
17:24.09 | CIA-10 | * Update toc for 1.11 |
17:24.09 | CIA-10 | * Use the new GetAddOnMetadata() for version/etc data. |
17:24.15 | hyperChipmunk | would that work? |
17:27.29 | Kebinusan | not sure, I just kind of figured bulkmail wasnt for me because all I do is mass mail items between my bank mule and my main |
17:27.42 | hyperChipmunk | that's the entire point of BUlkMail =x |
17:28.20 | hyperChipmunk | do you use the autosend features at all? |
17:28.35 | Kebinusan | I played iwth it for a whole two hours over a week ago, so let me give some honest feedback once the servers come back up |
17:28.52 | Mikma | oh right, shamans are getting a +spell damage on frostband and flametongue |
17:29.15 | *** join/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=kcummins@adsl-71-147-10-6.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
17:29.40 | Kebinusan | might be nice if you could predefine mules, like always send herbs to this guy, generic fallback bank is x |
17:29.46 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
17:29.54 | hyperChipmunk | /facepalm |
17:29.58 | Kebinusan | heheh, I'll shut up till I can play wiht it |
17:30.58 | hyperChipmunk | Kebinusan: that is EXACTLY what BulkMail does =P |
17:31.01 | Mikma | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman&t=607966&p=1&tmp=1#post607966 lol :D |
17:31.08 | Kebinusan | I must have been using it wrong |
17:31.13 | Wobin | When are the servers back up? |
17:31.15 | Kebinusan | so forgive me, I'll give it another shot |
17:31.22 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
17:31.24 | hyperChipmunk | read the readme |
17:31.28 | CIA-10 | 03phyber * r3033 10AceGCInfo/ (AceGCInfo.lua AceGCInfo.toc): |
17:31.28 | CIA-10 | AceGCInfo: |
17:31.28 | CIA-10 | - Changed TOC to 11100 |
17:31.28 | CIA-10 | - Fixed the stuff I borked last night |
17:31.41 | hyperChipmunk | I worked hard on it! |
17:31.44 | hyperChipmunk | it's funny! |
17:32.00 | Kebinusan | yeah I figured, I liked how clean the ui looekd for it |
17:32.37 | Kebinusan | I just didnt really give myself a chance to learn the difference from ct_mailmod |
17:32.53 | hyperChipmunk | please read the readme =) |
17:33.00 | ckknight | hrm, Opera 9 was released |
17:33.08 | Kebinusan | yeah, I am |
17:33.08 | hyperChipmunk | you don't need servers for that |
17:33.12 | hyperChipmunk | yay =D |
17:33.13 | Mikma | someone made Eyonix mad within that post :P |
17:33.19 | Amadeo | Eyonix is always mad |
17:33.26 | Amadeo | he's mad because he doesn't know what's going on in WoW! |
17:33.40 | Kebinusan | or he's mad because he does and is powerless to change it! |
17:33.54 | Amadeo | Eyonix was just a troll a while back, not sure what he does now |
17:34.00 | Amadeo | he used to just go around insulting people |
17:34.05 | Mikma | ok then haha |
17:34.17 | Mikma | no wonder they wanted him to get hit by a bus |
17:34.49 | Amadeo | they said get hit by a bus, rofl |
17:35.04 | Kebinusan | wow, I really should have read the readme |
17:35.07 | Kebinusan | hahahahah |
17:35.11 | Amadeo | He called it a real life threat |
17:35.28 | Amadeo | I don't see it as a threat, he didn't say he would drive a bus into him |
17:35.37 | Mikma | "This is a video game. There is never just cause or reason to wish serious real life harm, or even death upon someone due any aspect of this game's design." |
17:38.31 | wereHamster | are only WoW addons allowed in the ace svn repo? |
17:38.43 | ckknight | not necessarily |
17:38.54 | Tekkub | *points at patch torrent* |
17:39.05 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
17:39.12 | wereHamster | what about (php-)code for something like this: http://dbservice.com/tom/guildprogress/ ? |
17:39.14 | hyperChipmunk | I should upload the wowmodelview source |
17:39.22 | hyperChipmunk | and get it to ACTUALLY compile for linux |
17:39.39 | wereHamster | yay :) |
17:40.00 | hyperChipmunk | dude has like, hard-coded directory names from /root and crap |
17:40.13 | hyperChipmunk | in the Makefile |
17:40.53 | Cairenn | tem, you around? |
17:41.02 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-184.handshake.de) |
17:43.43 | hyperChipmunk | LIBS = -lmpq /root/cximage599c/build-linux/libCxImage.a /root/cximage599c/build-linux/libCxImage.a /root/cximage599c/build-linux/libjasper.a |
17:43.47 | Elkano | hyperChipmunk? with GloryLib fixed bg status now also updates on join :) |
17:43.57 | hyperChipmunk | yay |
17:44.37 | Elkano | I'll try to get in BGs know to test my latest change to HonorFu and that will be ready then, too :) |
17:49.28 | *** join/#wowace Makk (n=marcus@trondelag-dhcp-214-66.bluecom.no) |
17:49.59 | Elkano | hmpf... BattlegroundFu.lua:661: GloryLib: Bad argument #2 to `GetFactionColor' (string or number expected, got nil) |
17:50.14 | Elkano | (not the 1.11 build) |
17:50.17 | hyperChipmunk | that's ckknight's error-check code |
17:50.36 | hyperChipmunk | i have to write a workaround |
17:51.03 | Makk | hm |
17:51.06 | ckknight | should it accept nil? |
17:51.16 | Makk | Anyone gonna fix keyrings and CardBars for 1.11? |
17:51.50 | hyperChipmunk | yea, because the server takes a second to respond |
17:52.23 | kergoth | heh, our air conditioning in the hotel room didnt work yesterday, at all |
17:52.28 | kergoth | last night's sleep sucked ass. |
17:52.37 | hyperChipmunk | so the value for the GetLandmarkInfo API function doesn't exist |
17:52.51 | hyperChipmunk | and we don't get a faction |
17:53.18 | hyperChipmunk | so it has to run through and do nothing if it gets nil |
17:53.32 | hyperChipmunk | which is what it did before you made nil throw an error |
17:53.42 | hyperChipmunk | it still works, it just generates errors |
17:53.48 | hyperChipmunk | the function wasn't doing anything if it's nil anyway |
18:00.49 | Ratbert_CP | What's a good CLI linux torrent client? |
18:01.13 | hyperChipmunk | bittorrent? =x |
18:01.18 | kergoth | something wrong with teh bittorrent one? |
18:01.23 | kergoth | there's both headless and curses, iirc |
18:01.30 | hyperChipmunk | correct |
18:01.54 | kergoth | now if you'd asked about gui ones, thats a bit uglier :) |
18:02.00 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
18:02.03 | Ratbert_CP | Well... given the general animosity to the bottorrent client for Windows, I didn't know if there was a similar feeling for Linux clients |
18:02.09 | Ratbert_CP | :) |
18:02.20 | mjc | ugh |
18:02.24 | mjc | taking forever to get back up |
18:02.25 | kergoth | for guis, sure, the graphical stock bt client sucks |
18:02.28 | mjc | rtorrent is good |
18:02.31 | kergoth | for both linux and windows |
18:03.56 | mjc | yep |
18:04.04 | mjc | kergoth: still have that crossfire? |
18:05.22 | Tekkub | wheeeee I love causing guild drama |
18:05.35 | Tekkub | I'm stiring the pot over this whole DKP decay bullshit :) |
18:06.11 | kergoth | mjc: yeah. unfortunately had to bring it back to minnesota for 6 months... partly into the winter... |
18:06.12 | Gngsk | teeth decay, why shouldn't dee kay pee? |
18:06.19 | mjc | kergoth: sucks |
18:06.22 | kergoth | mjc: i got stucdk in the snow 10 feet from my front door, sitting in front of my mailbox. |
18:06.24 | Tekkub | but trying to give them constructive solutions to their "infrequent raiders ninjaing good items from the core raiders" problem |
18:06.25 | kergoth | :P |
18:06.36 | mjc | kergoth: subaru wrx ftw |
18:06.44 | MoonWolf | Master loot people. |
18:06.52 | kergoth | wide tires + rear wheel drive + light backend / hatchback / no backseats + MN winter = bad |
18:06.54 | MoonWolf | oh |
18:06.57 | Tekkub | I don't mean ninja in that sence moon |
18:07.00 | MoonWolf | ah |
18:07.05 | Gngsk | attendance threshold set to 75%! |
18:07.06 | kergoth | i had to load up the back with my weights from my weight bench |
18:07.07 | kergoth | hehe |
18:07.14 | hyperChipmunk | I think we gave 10% less zero-sum adjustment to inactive players |
18:07.15 | mjc | hahah |
18:07.19 | Tekkub | I mean people who are gone a month, show up and spend old points to get a nice item, and dissappear another month |
18:07.34 | mjc | kergoth: I picked up a 2003 WRX STI for a project car |
18:07.37 | kergoth | nice |
18:07.43 | Tekkub | I suggested they weight bids against attendance % over the last 6 weeks |
18:07.56 | Tekkub | give to the highest "effective bid" at the full bid price |
18:08.07 | MoonWolf | this caused huge drama ? |
18:08.13 | MoonWolf | actually, not a bad suggestion. |
18:08.18 | Tekkub | so if someone inactive really wants an item they can still get it, but a much higher price |
18:08.39 | MoonWolf | and the actual amount doesnt decay |
18:08.45 | Tekkub | yea cause it's the people who are in every raid, who have 500 DKP that are bitching that they can't get the items they want |
18:08.50 | MoonWolf | so be active for a decent time and you whole value is back. |
18:08.57 | Tekkub | exactly |
18:09.02 | MoonWolf | your* |
18:09.05 | Tekkub | lets see this was my example... |
18:09.11 | Tekkub | A has 100 DKP, B has 150 |
18:09.21 | Tekkub | A has 80% attendance, B has 20% |
18:09.33 | Tekkub | A bids 25... effective bid of 20 |
18:09.45 | Tekkub | if B wants the item he need EB of 21 |
18:09.51 | Tekkub | which would cost him 105 DKP |
18:10.04 | Tekkub | so if he wants the item he can spend 2/3 of his DKP |
18:10.29 | Codayus | not a bad suggestion... |
18:10.29 | Tekkub | or raid more and it'd cost less |
18:10.30 | Kebinusan | sounds complicated |
18:10.36 | Mikma | no, not really |
18:10.38 | MoonWolf | sounds pretty fair. |
18:10.42 | Tekkub | the yalready track attendace Keb |
18:10.47 | Mikma | that sounds pretty good actually |
18:10.48 | Codayus | really emphasizes qattendance...which isn't a bad thing per se |
18:10.53 | Mikma | low attendance = costs more |
18:10.59 | Tekkub | the current "idea" was after 4 raids missed in a row you lose x% |
18:11.00 | Tekkub | and x == 20 |
18:11.01 | MoonWolf | its better then a normal decay |
18:11.03 | MoonWolf | thats for sure. |
18:11.06 | Tekkub | noone liked the 20 |
18:11.13 | Kebinusan | yeah wouldnt be bad if you could automate that |
18:11.27 | Mikma | what about if someone misses 3 and appears in 4th for 15mins |
18:11.31 | Tekkub | well you've got DKP and attendance % numbers already at the satrt of the raid |
18:11.41 | Tekkub | the bid taker just needs to do some quick math |
18:11.43 | Codayus | my guild rewards attendance with rampant inflation. :/ |
18:11.51 | Mikma | you should name it DeKkup |
18:11.57 | Mikma | p=P |
18:12.00 | Tekkub | yea I'm still pushing 0-sum on them to at least stop the inflation |
18:12.13 | Tekkub | it won't correct the inflation that's already there, but it would help |
18:12.16 | Kebinusan | yeah, write a mod to do the math automagically |
18:12.19 | Kebinusan | then it sounds good |
18:12.24 | Kebinusan | :-) |
18:12.25 | MoonWolf | i dont like 0 sum |
18:12.31 | MoonWolf | i like hoarding dkp |
18:12.31 | Codayus | well, depends what you want the system to do... |
18:12.41 | Tekkub | meh, a calculator is easier than trying to get a mod to work |
18:12.43 | hyperChipmunk | I like watching MoonWolf die in a fire |
18:12.50 | MoonWolf | so do I |
18:12.54 | MoonWolf | wait that didnt make sense. |
18:13.03 | Tekkub | that's why you must die |
18:13.35 | Kebinusan | heh, we hav ea mod to handle bidding in raids that integrates with getdkp which integrates with eqdkp, then use the eqdkp modded raidtracker to upload raids, so thinking is kept to a level somewhere between 0 and 1 on a scale of 10 |
18:13.39 | mjc | Tekkub: why not just give priority to the core team |
18:13.39 | mjc | can't connect to svn.wowace |
18:13.42 | Codayus | I'm kind of pushink for us to use suicide kings on our casual 20 mans. we currently just random |
18:13.42 | Tekkub | the guild leader like my attendance weighting idea, good |
18:13.47 | mjc | works now |
18:13.54 | Tekkub | he's the one that manages DKP, it might just happen |
18:14.02 | Kebinusan | I dont like SK |
18:14.13 | Kebinusan | people pass on upgrades too much |
18:14.20 | kergoth | our guild is so casual, we still just roll. course we cant even do a full guild MC run yet, just ZG |
18:14.24 | MoonWolf | people that think it sucks plan on taking advantage of the current system! |
18:14.31 | Codayus | I like the concept for, say, zg. not so much for mc |
18:14.59 | mjc | we got ragnaros down to 1% last attempt =( |
18:15.07 | Codayus | ow |
18:15.11 | Kebinusan | more dots |
18:15.17 | mjc | first attempt though |
18:15.21 | mjc | yeah, more dots :D |
18:15.21 | Mikma | ~moredots |
18:15.23 | purl | more dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots! |
18:15.26 | mjc | haha |
18:15.29 | Kebinusan | heheh |
18:15.30 | mjc | that's great |
18:15.49 | Kebinusan | oh I remember back to our first rag kill |
18:15.55 | Kebinusan | farming large rope nets to cc sons of flame |
18:16.08 | Kebinusan | oh what fun |
18:16.11 | MoonWolf | you can still farm rope nets ? |
18:16.21 | Kebinusan | no, thats how long ago it was |
18:16.21 | MoonWolf | i thought those were removed. |
18:16.23 | steino | <PROTECTED> |
18:16.25 | Tekkub | you know kerg, I need to get leveled up so I can play with you guys |
18:16.30 | steino | *weee* |
18:16.33 | Codayus | ....rope nets? oO |
18:16.34 | kergoth | you should, my mage just hit 40 :P |
18:16.42 | steino | cant say aq was any better :| |
18:16.44 | Tekkub | someone force me to level there... who did I give that job? wasn't it wobblin? |
18:16.45 | kergoth | i should roll a hunter and level with you one of these days |
18:16.47 | Kebinusan | or making horde alts for really sticky glue, we did that too |
18:16.51 | kergoth | yeah it was wobin |
18:17.08 | MoonWolf | wowi is holding up pretty well |
18:17.08 | Wobin | feh |
18:17.08 | Tekkub | wob is fired, you have the job now kergy |
18:17.14 | kergoth | hehe |
18:17.21 | MoonWolf | curse.... not that much |
18:17.22 | Wobin | You just ignore me =P |
18:17.29 | mjc | what are the links for the more dots guy |
18:17.32 | Tekkub | I'm serious, I want to do MC the way it was meant to |
18:17.34 | kergoth | tonight will be fun, the usual 8 quadrillion addon updates, i'm sure |
18:17.43 | Tekkub | not just show up and get the tablescraps |
18:17.48 | kergoth | sure as hell glad my addon seti s maintained in svn |
18:17.49 | MoonWolf | worldofwar is doing good too. |
18:17.52 | Kebinusan | the way it was meant to? with half the raid alt tabbed? |
18:17.53 | kergoth | nice |
18:18.10 | Tekkub | quiet you |
18:18.23 | Mikma | hmm i remember our Hakkar-kill once. last people standing were 2 priests, and we managed to kill him hehe |
18:18.36 | mjc | http://onyserious.ytmnsfw.com/ |
18:18.38 | Codayus | Heh, my guilds first rag kill was uh....3 weeks ago. a real rush....no char in the raid (or guild) had seen him die before, and only 2 players had |
18:18.40 | Mikma | and yes i was the other priest |
18:18.46 | Tekkub | lol that's how raids should end |
18:18.59 | Tekkub | then the priests ninja any good items, as they earned them |
18:19.03 | Tekkub | then rez the others |
18:19.07 | Codayus | I think 1 person had 8/8 t1. Most had much less. |
18:19.28 | Codayus | fun! |
18:19.34 | Kebinusan | those are good times |
18:19.40 | Kebinusan | our first c'thun kill was an amazing rush |
18:19.49 | Codayus | I bet |
18:20.05 | Codayus | progression = fun |
18:20.17 | Kebinusan | it was funny cause for the first four kills everyone would start to get all excited towards the end |
18:20.39 | Kebinusan | we'd lose more people because they were over anxious than anything |
18:20.50 | Mikma | ~moredots |
18:20.52 | purl | more dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots! |
18:21.02 | CIA-10 | 03ammo * r3034 10oRA_RaidSay/oRA_RaidSay.lua: |
18:21.02 | CIA-10 | oRA_RaidSay: |
18:21.02 | CIA-10 | * Put the UIERRORSHOLDTIME back. Want those messages to fade, not stay there forever. |
18:21.13 | Tekkub | oh yea keyrings... blizzy just gave me 6 new bag slots, thank you blizzy |
18:21.30 | Makk | yeah |
18:21.30 | Tekkub | same with the mat stack increases |
18:21.35 | Mikma | "who da fuuuck was that?!?" ;) |
18:21.40 | Tekkub | leathers were soooo stupid at 10 |
18:21.43 | Kebinusan | yeah, too bad potions dont stack to 20 |
18:21.45 | Makk | are anyone gonna add Keyrings to cardbars? |
18:21.58 | Gngsk | Mikma, crushim |
18:21.59 | Codayus | the onsumables nerfs suck... |
18:22.00 | Tekkub | do we NEED keyrings in the bag mods? |
18:22.02 | Wobin | oh, but I love the poisons restack |
18:22.11 | Wobin | and the rogue consumables |
18:22.16 | Tekkub | I mean, they go into em by default right... would you ever want to remove an item? |
18:22.27 | Codayus | we used zanzas for our first two rag kills. don't need them any more thankfully |
18:22.28 | Tekkub | item/key |
18:23.16 | Kebinusan | yeah at least I dont have to buy bijous and coins from famers anymore |
18:23.16 | kergoth | * "Disable All Addons" will obey the character/all selection. |
18:23.17 | kergoth | thank god |
18:23.20 | kergoth | (1.12) |
18:23.25 | kergoth | that one bugged the hell out of me |
18:23.44 | Mikma | hell yeah |
18:24.14 | Tekkub | anyone happen to have itemid's for the new ZG enchant questitem drops? (no) |
18:24.27 | Codayus | blasted lands buffs got the nerf bat too. :-( |
18:24.49 | *** join/#wowace SilverShadow (n=silversh@69-2-90-22.wan.networktel.net) |
18:24.58 | Kebinusan | yeh bl buffs are only +25 stat |
18:25.04 | Gngsk | /mourn tubers |
18:25.16 | Tekkub | ^^ |
18:25.30 | Codayus | I guess to try and make the nerfed zanzas seem worthwhile |
18:25.33 | Codayus | lame |
18:25.47 | Makk | 20:30:28 * Tekkub deletes oRA ready and oRA Raidsay |
18:25.50 | Makk | huh, why? |
18:25.56 | MoonWolf | 1.11 |
18:25.59 | Tekkub | the new raid shit |
18:26.02 | Kebinusan | blizzard hates fun |
18:26.05 | Makk | oh |
18:26.24 | Tekkub | install faster damnit! |
18:26.30 | Codayus | oh well, at least where my guild is we can just make it up by getting more epics |
18:26.36 | Tekkub | I want to get in and like, spend more money on runecloth |
18:26.45 | Tekkub | I'm in a good mood, I want a kitty |
18:26.50 | Codayus | If we were on say, twin emps...and horde....I'd be more upset. :-) |
18:26.53 | mjc | http://content.ytmnd.com/content/3/2/4/3241105d468916477614d8a8243725b6.mp3 |
18:26.53 | mjc | heh |
18:29.40 | haste_ | that's a former guildy of mine |
18:30.45 | Shyva | nice guy ^^ |
18:30.52 | mjc | haste_: seriously? |
18:31.07 | Mikma | haste_: is that you? ;) |
18:31.39 | Tekkub | !hug Pandora |
18:31.42 | Ratbert_CP | mjc, still have that torrent active? I can't seem to get anything working (including an attempt to use torrentflux!?!) |
18:31.45 | Tekkub | ~hug Pandora |
18:31.46 | purl | ACTION hugs Pandora |
18:31.51 | mjc | Ratbert_CP: http://325i.org/wow |
18:31.56 | Tekkub | ~molest Panaran |
18:31.57 | mjc | wtf is torrentflux |
18:32.13 | Tekkub | *Pandaren |
18:32.26 | haste_ | mjc, yeh, he is :p |
18:32.45 | Tekkub | GOD DAMNIT INSTALL FASTER! *kicks HDD |
18:32.57 | Tekkub | oh look it's done |
18:32.59 | mjc | Tekkub: the servers aren't up |
18:33.09 | mjc | ~moredots |
18:33.10 | purl | left side! even side! |
18:33.12 | Tekkub | bah they said 11 pacific |
18:33.29 | Shyva | "they said" ... |
18:34.22 | Tekkub | and it downloads another patch already? bad sign |
18:34.26 | Mikma | wow that was a long mp3 |
18:34.47 | Ratbert_CP | Grrr.... Damned tracker doesn't respond... |
18:34.52 | mjc | Ratbert_CP: works for me |
18:35.13 | *** join/#wowace Sare (n=Sare@216.46.139.115) |
18:36.00 | mjc | hey hun |
18:36.03 | Sare | heya |
18:36.17 | mjc | ~hug Sare |
18:36.19 | purl | ACTION hugs Sare |
18:36.33 | mjc | kergoth: meet my girlfriend =) |
18:36.51 | Sare | tricky tricky. lol |
18:36.53 | mjc | Tekkub: 1.11 is the only patch I needed |
18:37.02 | Sare | Hello Kergoth =) |
18:37.02 | mjc | ~moredots |
18:37.03 | purl | handle it! |
18:37.16 | Mikma | hey girlfriend! |
18:37.19 | Tekkub | hrm... |
18:37.21 | mjc | ~moredots |
18:37.22 | purl | dps very, very slowly - I mean f*cking slow |
18:37.25 | mjc | haha |
18:37.28 | Kebinusan | ~C'thun |
18:37.30 | purl | *** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - Pleasure! *** |
18:37.35 | Sare | ahha |
18:37.41 | mjc | hahah |
18:37.51 | mjc | Tekkub: hm? |
18:37.57 | mjc | ~love Sare |
18:37.58 | purl | If you love Sare so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
18:38.02 | mjc | :D |
18:38.02 | Tekkub | shit I installed the PTR patch >< |
18:38.06 | Tekkub | go g ome... |
18:38.08 | mjc | Tekkub: hahah |
18:38.10 | Tekkub | *go go me... |
18:38.16 | haste_ | fail! |
18:38.30 | mjc | Sare: the more dots guy is one of haste_'s former guildies :D |
18:38.55 | Sare | o.O |
18:38.58 | Tekkub | note to self, delete patches from BT box after installed |
18:39.00 | Mikma | i'm starting to believe it's haste himself nihaha |
18:39.03 | mjc | haha |
18:39.08 | mjc | Tekkub: yes |
18:39.11 | mjc | that might help |
18:39.12 | haste_ | what the hell.. |
18:40.15 | mjc | haste_: ? |
18:41.48 | haste_ | Mikmas comment :p |
18:41.52 | mjc | ah |
18:42.16 | Elkano | damn patch, tomorrow I'll loose the legendary AQ mount (wrt my ItemDB) :( |
18:42.26 | Mikma | haste_: sorry, it really really was a joke, i was hoping you understand it as one |
18:43.20 | haste_ | Mikma, no harm done, *points at the :p* |
18:44.23 | Mikma | BAH! 20:34: 24.5°C .. |
18:45.05 | CIA-10 | 03elkano * r3035 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: HonorFu: removed BattlegroundMap timer since the fixes to GloryLib made it obsolete |
18:48.31 | Tekkub | heh, remember what maia was asking last night... |
18:48.53 | Tekkub | oh fuck you copy/paste... please hold |
18:49.18 | Tekkub | "All controlled units will now be titled based on the creature type. All beasts will be referred to as Pets, for example (no matter how they are controlled). Previously, there were several inconsistencies." |
18:49.20 | Tekkub | *grin* |
18:50.11 | mjc | magtheridon US is on the list now yay |
18:50.27 | Tekkub | ah ha, they gave a list |
18:50.30 | hyperChipmunk | gogogo |
18:50.40 | Tekkub | there's 8 "keys" in the game |
18:50.55 | Tekkub | so by level 40 your keyring is plenty big enough, for now |
18:51.34 | Amadeo | where do you get the keyrings? or is it automatic? |
18:51.39 | Elkano | Tekkub, any eta when you will port CorkFu to BabbleLib? I tryed it myself but I failed :( |
18:51.50 | Tekkub | it's half done on my side |
18:51.59 | Tekkub | I need to finish that |
18:53.09 | hyperChipmunk | 8 keys, hmm...crescent key, key to scholomance, key to stratholme, scarlet key, darkforge key, workshop key... |
18:53.10 | Wobin | Amadeo: automatic |
18:53.24 | hyperChipmunk | i guess the mauradon staff and postbox keys don't count? |
18:53.33 | haste_ | dm key |
18:53.33 | Wobin | don't believe so |
18:53.33 | Amadeo | nice |
18:53.38 | hyperChipmunk | dm is crescent |
18:53.51 | hyperChipmunk | and the lockbox keys from brd |
18:53.58 | hyperChipmunk | they prolly don't count either? |
18:54.00 | Tekkub | no, the "item" keys don't count |
18:54.02 | kergoth | would be nice if the mara staff counted |
18:54.05 | Wobin | spam |
18:54.06 | Wobin | Key to Searing Gorge |
18:54.06 | Wobin | Workshop Key |
18:54.06 | Wobin | The Scarlet Key |
18:54.06 | Wobin | Shadowforge Key |
18:54.06 | Wobin | Key to the City |
18:54.08 | Wobin | Skeleton Key |
18:54.10 | Wobin | Prison Cell Key |
18:54.12 | Wobin | Crescent Key |
18:54.18 | Tekkub | oh just as I was gonna paste |
18:54.23 | hyperChipmunk | there isn't a key for searing gorge |
18:54.29 | Wobin | sure there is |
18:54.30 | Tekkub | yes there is |
18:54.33 | gnorlish | alliance |
18:54.36 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
18:54.37 | Tekkub | you dirty hordeie |
18:54.42 | hyperChipmunk | no, I'm alliance |
18:54.42 | Tekkub | *grin* |
18:54.42 | Wobin | for the gate from Therawhateveritis |
18:54.46 | Amadeo | You've never been to the gate? |
18:54.48 | hyperChipmunk | I know where the gate is |
18:54.51 | hyperChipmunk | I didn't think they gave you a key |
18:54.56 | Tekkub | "Do you not speak common?" I love that NPC |
18:55.04 | Industrial | Mikma: im leveling |
18:55.08 | Mikma | Industrial: good :) |
18:55.10 | Amadeo | Looks like the servers are slowly coming up |
18:55.13 | Wobin | You kill an elite thunderlizard, grab the horn then run back and forth across all of existance for a key you'll never use |
18:55.20 | Industrial | gunna head to westfall now |
18:55.44 | Mikma | hyperChipmunk: there's some monster in searing gorge which will drop the key and it needs to be returned to the npc guarding the gate in loch modan |
18:55.45 | hyperChipmunk | so I missed, what, prison cell and searing gorge? |
18:55.47 | Tekkub | just in time... come on icecrown! |
18:55.54 | Wobin | Since by the time you have the chance to get the key, you already have the flightpoint =P |
18:56.05 | hyperChipmunk | oh I did the quest |
18:56.13 | Tekkub | yea but the key was in long before the flightpoint |
18:56.16 | Wobin | skeleton key |
18:56.42 | Tekkub | I need a Shadowforge key sometime.. I don't have one yet |
18:56.49 | hyperChipmunk | that's scholomance key |
18:56.50 | Tekkub | and prison cell |
18:57.08 | Amadeo | MetaMap is useless for me now, they removed all of the mob points for instance maps |
18:57.32 | Wobin | I use Atlas for that |
18:57.33 | hyperChipmunk | prison cell is the one for the ony quest |
18:57.36 | Mikma | so any ETA on char transfers? |
18:57.41 | kergoth | mmm, those stack size boosts are yummy |
18:57.42 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I always destroy that one and get a new one =P |
18:57.42 | Amadeo | Wobin: Atlas is a lot larger though |
18:57.50 | Wobin | meh, worthwhile |
18:57.51 | Tekkub | "Primal Hakkari Tokens: These items from Zul'Gurub now identify which classes can use them in their item descriptions." |
18:58.01 | kergoth | metamap is a beast. consuming functionality that never belonged in it |
18:58.06 | kergoth | i refuse to even attempt to use it |
18:58.09 | kergoth | heh |
18:58.18 | hyperChipmunk | metamap is one mod to rule them all |
18:58.30 | hyperChipmunk | it should be destroyed |
18:58.42 | hyperChipmunk | it's the friggin borg of addons |
18:58.50 | kergoth | hmm, my poor neglected main, the 60 shammy... i have no idea how to spec him now, never play him |
18:58.52 | Amadeo | MetaMap is a bit much, but it's smaller than Atlas |
18:58.56 | Amadeo | by a meg or more |
18:59.07 | hyperChipmunk | maybe diskspace |
18:59.20 | Tekkub | Elements... Five Thunders... Ten Storms... ... Fifteen whats? |
18:59.25 | Amadeo | the default full-screen low-res map is awful |
18:59.36 | kergoth | Tekkub: shaman sets. |
18:59.37 | hyperChipmunk | Fifteen Drummers Drumming |
18:59.51 | Tekkub | yea kerg... what's gonna be fifteen? |
18:59.53 | haste_ | Earthshatter is the next one in the line |
19:00.02 | hyperChipmunk | fifteen typhoons |
19:00.04 | kergoth | ah, hehe |
19:00.06 | Tekkub | bah earthshaker don't fit the pattern |
19:00.15 | haste_ | not shaker :p |
19:00.26 | Kebinusan | the only thing I use metamap for is the alphamap functionality I really should try and find something smaller |
19:00.36 | kergoth | Eating and Drinking: You will no longer fall through a chair you are sitting in if you eat or drink. |
19:00.45 | kergoth | amusing bugs |
19:01.07 | Gngsk | yea, it wanted to put your but on the ground |
19:01.09 | Gngsk | *butt |
19:01.09 | mjc | http://facesofwow.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=76&pos=248 |
19:01.11 | hyperChipmunk | what's alphamap? |
19:01.16 | Tekkub | "Eating and Drinking: You will no longer fall through a chair you are sitting in if you eat or drink." |
19:01.18 | Slayman | Am i able to find out in which stance i am, i need a quick hack to use only one key from battle to berserker and back |
19:01.20 | Tekkub | I love things like that |
19:01.21 | Gngsk | old school transparent map |
19:01.25 | Wobin | kergoth: Wait for 1.12 |
19:01.36 | hyperChipmunk | /script WorldMap:SetAlpha(0.5) |
19:01.40 | hyperChipmunk | er |
19:01.40 | kergoth | alphamap is a beast for what it does, we need a minimal map like that |
19:01.46 | hyperChipmunk | /script WorldMapFrame:SetAlpha(0.5) |
19:01.46 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk: it also let you move while it was up and stuff |
19:02.00 | Kebinusan | yeah move and rescale |
19:02.09 | kergoth | i'm actually enjoying using battlefield commander for that, it just needs all the fancy shit ripped out |
19:02.24 | Kebinusan | I guess you could use the battlfield map frame outside of bgs |
19:02.29 | Kebinusan | Ive never tried it though |
19:02.31 | kergoth | :) |
19:02.48 | Amadeo | kergoth: I thought AlphaMap was dead |
19:03.02 | kergoth | its unmaintained. does work though |
19:03.22 | kergoth | gods, i wont know what to do having un'goro and ratchet flight points finally |
19:03.42 | Amadeo | ungoro? I didn't see that one |
19:03.43 | Amadeo | awesoem |
19:04.39 | Kebinusan | I use it more more outside of bg's than anything, riding on my mount to different locations and whatnot |
19:05.27 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.geekily.com/wowfaces/index.php?module=My_eGallery&do=showpic&pid=3823 <--me =) |
19:06.11 | mjc | heh |
19:06.14 | mjc | hyper indeed |
19:07.07 | Tekkub | "The Group Loot/Need before Greed dialogue will now show a golden dragon border around Bind on Pickup items." |
19:07.09 | Tekkub | kickass! |
19:07.18 | hyperChipmunk | >8p |
19:07.19 | Tekkub | now i don't have to implement a check |
19:07.33 | Tekkub | I wonder if the bind info is available in the API now too |
19:07.39 | hyperChipmunk | omg |
19:07.41 | Tekkub | it has to be, at least for rolls |
19:08.02 | hyperChipmunk | woot, my server is le upz0rs |
19:08.03 | Tekkub | oh yea.. I need to too |
19:08.13 | kergoth | should add that to the mini n/g dialog addon too |
19:08.16 | kergoth | i like that one |
19:09.01 | Elkano | if any problems arise with ItemDB or FramesResized, just tell me :) |
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19:09.36 | mjc | Ace itself needs toc update |
19:09.37 | hyperChipmunk | LCDXML O-o |
19:10.04 | phyber | a moment ago it was 20:06 20/06 2006 |
19:10.08 | phyber | the sky will fall soon. |
19:10.11 | haste_ | for the fugly keyboard |
19:10.16 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
19:10.52 | Tekkub | local texture, name, count, quality, bindOnPickUp = GetLootRollItemInfo(this.rollID); |
19:11.02 | hyperChipmunk | beh |
19:11.03 | Tekkub | kick ass |
19:11.33 | hyperChipmunk | hopefully this.rollID is an item id |
19:12.16 | hyperChipmunk | actually, it can't be |
19:12.26 | hyperChipmunk | because if more than one of the same item drops, they have to have different IDs |
19:12.43 | Tekkub | it's not chip |
19:12.54 | Tekkub | it's sequenial from group formation |
19:12.55 | hyperChipmunk | then it's only useful for rolling =P |
19:13.08 | Tekkub | look at the numbers in GreedBeacon, it's the roll id |
19:13.26 | hyperChipmunk | you still have to ttscan for bind info |
19:13.32 | hyperChipmunk | on arbitrary item |
19:14.46 | hyperChipmunk | holy freaking errors batman |
19:14.56 | Tekkub | yea |
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19:15.01 | Kebinusan | clearfont kicked up an error, but most thigns seemed fine |
19:15.01 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
19:15.06 | hyperChipmunk | looks to be AceGUI |
19:15.10 | Tekkub | but rolling has been most the places I wanted to know BoP stuff |
19:15.18 | Tekkub | I'm gonna push out TreyIs Greedy now |
19:15.19 | hyperChipmunk | my fricking armor ftw |
19:15.22 | Kebinusan | is there a script command to open the keyring, dab doesnt have support yet |
19:15.23 | Tekkub | still need a better name |
19:15.29 | Tekkub | maybe PartnersInCrime |
19:15.30 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I want to implement bound items in BulkMail though |
19:15.31 | mjc | treyls greedy? |
19:15.33 | kergoth | you add the stack size changes to pt? |
19:15.45 | Tekkub | duo-autorolling mod :) |
19:15.57 | Tekkub | kerg, stack size comes from the API |
19:16.27 | Tekkub | and I will fix the ZG quest sets shortly, I need an ids for that enchant stuff tho |
19:17.47 | kergoth | ah, cool cool |
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19:19.32 | Tekkub | "Shapeshifted Druids now maintain proper voice over." kek! |
19:19.45 | Tekkub | anyone else notice the shapshift voices before? |
19:19.57 | Wobin | I think I hvae |
19:20.02 | Tekkub | bear was male NE and cat was female NE if I remember right |
19:20.28 | Tain | No, but I did replace the shapeshift sound effect to the Transformers transforming sound. |
19:20.55 | Wobin | furbots in disguise |
19:22.22 | Mikma | Wobin: seems like PK doesn't remember the "Show/Hide Labels" yet? because they do open everytime i pop the bags open |
19:23.26 | Mikma | Wobin: and what's with the empty slots-frame? it doesn't show them all for some reason |
19:23.40 | Neronix | Bah, no docs for Ace2 |
19:23.41 | Wobin | Still? =\ |
19:23.47 | Neronix | need to do trial and error >.> |
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19:24.07 | Mikma | Neronix: look from the examples if there's some help |
19:24.08 | Syzx | Does anyone know if Squishy is broken? :( |
19:24.16 | mjc | cegui hates me |
19:24.24 | mjc | and I had a problem trying to show my keys with card_bars loaded |
19:25.04 | Mikma | mjc: try my Bartender ;) it's almost like CardBars but it does remember the positions. not across characters tho |
19:25.16 | mjc | I use CB for autohide |
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19:26.48 | Mikma | oh right |
19:26.52 | Mikma | autohide is fun |
19:27.00 | Amadeo | Bongos! |
19:29.01 | gnorlish | is bartender nice and simple like cardbars |
19:29.10 | gnorlish | i just use cb to move and scale |
19:29.18 | Amadeo | Bartender is new? |
19:29.21 | Industrial | idActionBar! |
19:29.22 | Industrial | :P |
19:29.29 | Tekkub | CT hasn't removed /rs yet have they? the fools... |
19:29.48 | haste_ | :-P |
19:30.15 | Mikma | they work slow |
19:30.16 | Industrial | Tekkub: cide is i #wowi-lounge go tell him |
19:30.24 | Tekkub | haste, you gonna make oRA send to the RW channel instead of the CTRA channel? *grin* |
19:30.38 | Tekkub | id: meh I'm sure he knows |
19:30.44 | kergoth | Mikma: you release bartender yet, or just in svn? |
19:30.44 | haste_ | Tekkub, it already does |
19:30.53 | Mikma | kergoth: released |
19:30.55 | haste_ | the RS messages that is |
19:30.58 | Tekkub | I was hoping they had a 1.11-ready CTRA lying in wait, aparently they don't |
19:31.02 | Industrial | Tekkub: thats not my point |
19:31.02 | Industrial | :P{ |
19:31.04 | kergoth | Mikma: yay, i'll switch when i get home :) |
19:31.17 | Tekkub | that's what I mean hastey :) |
19:31.19 | Mikma | kergoth: but, haven't uploaded it anywhere yet since i still wanna know is there bugs left :) |
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19:31.56 | Amadeo | I'm afraid to update FuBar :P |
19:31.56 | Kebinusan | bleh tipbuddy is broken again |
19:32.15 | Neronix | Mikma: Will do, thanks |
19:32.33 | Amadeo | TipBuddy was broken on Test for weeks |
19:32.37 | kergoth | Mikma: okay, i'll poke at it incessently |
19:33.38 | ariose | anyone ever see these weird white little bars from minigroup2? anyone know what they are? |
19:33.50 | kergoth | i like that blizz added range indicators |
19:33.54 | kergoth | no more redrange, yay |
19:34.21 | gnorlish | holy goal |
19:34.23 | Mikma | oh they did? huzzah! |
19:36.29 | CIA-10 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3036 10Lexan-Ace2/ (. Lexan.toc): |
19:36.29 | CIA-10 | Lexan (Ace2 conversion) |
19:36.29 | CIA-10 | - Added ckknight's Ace2 branch to externals |
19:36.29 | CIA-10 | - Added everything except AceLibraryBase to toc |
19:37.43 | Amadeo | how come everyone's moving to Ace2 already? |
19:38.07 | Neronix | It's just me I think |
19:38.11 | kergoth | lets see.. when i get home, need to remove ora_raidsay, ora_ready, redrange, catalyst, infield (make bagnon/banknon use the new clamping if they dont already), .. |
19:38.17 | Neronix | I'm doing this to help test it |
19:38.33 | Neronix | kergoth: rememberthemilk :P |
19:38.39 | kergoth | ooh good idea |
19:38.42 | kergoth | :) |
19:38.52 | Amadeo | oh ok |
19:39.09 | Amadeo | kergoth: There's a new bagnon already |
19:39.28 | Wobin | hurrah |
19:39.31 | Wobin | AD is back up |
19:39.33 | kergoth | ah good |
19:39.33 | Wobin | finally |
19:39.40 | hyperChipmunk | this is like fricking christmas |
19:39.41 | mjc | bagnon? |
19:39.52 | hyperChipmunk | all my reflectors are on separate cooldown |
19:39.57 | kergoth | mjc: small all in one inventory type bag addon. like onebag, but with smaller in game ram usage |
19:40.07 | kergoth | works pretty well |
19:40.17 | gnorlish | bagnon is very nice |
19:40.30 | kergoth | that and mrplow = happy kergoth |
19:40.48 | Amadeo | MrPlow is strange sometimes, I can't figure out its sorting method always |
19:41.10 | mjc | AceAutoInvite broke |
19:41.13 | kergoth | hehe. it still gets awfully confused by my enchanting bag |
19:41.17 | mjc | IsPlayerInGuild is broken |
19:41.18 | Neronix | Some servers still not up? Bleh, sounds like datacentre problems as always |
19:41.20 | kergoth | need to get debug output aout it yet |
19:41.22 | mjc | kergoth: it likes my enchanting bag |
19:41.26 | Neronix | s/datacentre/datumcentre/ |
19:41.28 | kergoth | huh |
19:41.35 | Neronix | This is blizzard we're talking about ;P |
19:41.36 | Amadeo | like I'll have marks of honor from each BG, but MrPlow doesn't put them together |
19:41.38 | kergoth | mine stalls momentarily, then continues |
19:41.49 | kergoth | and when it stalled, i get those red 'you cant equp more than one of that type of bag' messages |
19:41.56 | kergoth | kinda wierd |
19:42.11 | Amadeo | kergoth: I think I had that on my Warlock with a shard bag |
19:43.00 | Wobin | Tekkub: metrognome:Start("Myname", 1) will only run it once, won't it? |
19:43.57 | Industrial | How does a human get his warlock lv 10 pet? |
19:44.03 | kergoth | mjc: what class/race are you, out of curiosity? |
19:44.14 | mjc | human mage and gnome rogue |
19:44.34 | kergoth | ugh, gnome rogue. always stabbing at my knees and shit |
19:44.36 | kergoth | ;) |
19:44.36 | Tekkub | yes wob |
19:44.54 | Amadeo | AceGUI is broken? |
19:45.03 | Tekkub | sweet, they dropped te DKP decay and are implementing my attendance-weighted bids instead |
19:45.32 | steino | oO |
19:46.01 | Tain | I like a well-implemented dkp decay. |
19:46.10 | Amadeo | AceGUIElement.lua:44: 'KC_LinkviewFrameSortBoxTier2MenuRow12' has no child 'DisabledText' |
19:46.11 | Tain | Get that old stinky dkp out and get the new in. |
19:46.58 | Amadeo | is that an AceGUI bug or a KCI bug? |
19:47.02 | hyperChipmunk | acegui |
19:47.05 | hyperChipmunk | happens w/ bulkmail too |
19:48.04 | Neronix | Hmm, what's self.super? |
19:48.30 | wereHamster | the better part of you :-P |
19:48.52 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Argh, it'll never work then :P |
19:51.15 | Amadeo | Stormwind is all dark |
19:51.16 | Amadeo | haha |
19:51.52 | Industrial | Neronix: inheritance |
19:52.04 | Industrial | Neronix: you have a fruit class and an apple class |
19:52.11 | Industrial | apple inherits some things from fuit |
19:52.13 | Neronix | And fruit is apple.super? |
19:52.19 | Industrial | yes |
19:52.24 | Neronix | I see, thanks |
19:52.26 | Industrial | np |
19:53.14 | Elkano | tekkub, is it intentionaly that PT doesn't update tradeskill item's skill level during a session? |
19:53.20 | Industrial | 'apple inherits from fruit so fruit its apples partne/super class' - I love to see the faces of people that cant program |
19:53.33 | Industrial | also its funny to talk about how some sorts of programming si 'dirty' |
19:53.37 | Industrial | ;D |
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19:54.16 | Tekkub | uh, it should update every time the frame is opened |
19:54.54 | Elkano | well, it doesn't |
19:56.11 | Amadeo | I can't live without ClearFont |
19:56.22 | Neronix | Did CF break? |
19:56.39 | Wobin | Tek |
19:57.02 | Wobin | If you pass self as an arguement to the register for mG, does it set the self on the Start execution, or the Register? |
19:57.30 | Amadeo | Neronix: Yep |
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19:57.51 | Neronix | :'( |
19:57.59 | Beladona | hiya |
19:58.21 | Shyva | if (x == false) then, is that the same as if (x == nil) then ? |
19:59.02 | Neronix | No |
19:59.06 | Mikma | i don't think so, nil means "not found" |
19:59.12 | Neronix | false is a value |
19:59.19 | Neronix | and if a var has a value, it can't be nil |
19:59.25 | Beladona | false is an evaluation |
19:59.27 | Shyva | ok :) |
19:59.29 | Shyva | Thanks guys |
19:59.33 | Wobin | Oh dear |
19:59.36 | Neronix | np |
19:59.40 | Wobin | LFG is so going to be overspam now |
19:59.42 | Shyva | I think I made a mistake in my test then ^^ |
20:00.05 | Beladona | I would assume it is a bug though right? the LFG thing |
20:00.09 | Neronix | For God's sake, Iriel's already posted a 1.12 changes thread |
20:00.19 | Neronix | even worse, it has content! |
20:00.23 | Wobin | Neronix: He posted that ages ago =) |
20:00.30 | Neronix | I fail |
20:00.50 | Mikma | Neronix: link link |
20:01.02 | Neronix | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=396933&p=1&tmp=1#post396933 |
20:01.25 | Mikma | teh dinohead |
20:02.09 | Cairenn | unh, yeah, I've already copied it over to WoWI, sheesh ... get with the times! |
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20:03.22 | netcurse | the love of patchdays |
20:03.27 | Wobin | Interface\AddOns\!!Warmup\Warmup.lua:72 function `LoadAddOn' |
20:03.35 | Wobin | Unexpected Symbol near ')' |
20:03.38 | mjc | haha |
20:03.45 | mjc | Sare: sup |
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20:10.13 | CIA-10 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3037 10Lexan-Ace2/ (Lexan.lua Lexan.toc): |
20:10.13 | CIA-10 | Lexan (Ace2 conversion) |
20:10.13 | CIA-10 | - Replaced TRUE and FALSE with true and false |
20:10.13 | CIA-10 | - Changed order libs are loaded in to one that I think would work |
20:11.28 | netcurse | to update on curse us http://beta1.curse-gaming.com/en/ btw |
20:12.09 | hyperChipmunk | was there always Target of Target in default interface? |
20:12.21 | Neronix | New in 1.11 |
20:12.23 | Amadeo | the LFG chat needs removed - NOW |
20:12.34 | hyperChipmunk | /leave LookingForGroup |
20:12.40 | Neronix | Then how will people look for groups? |
20:12.41 | kergoth | Shyva: 'if not foo' will evaluate as true if foo is either false or nil. it's quite rare to need to distinguish between nil and false. one should really only use the latter if you truly need to distinguish between a value being defined vs being undefined. |
20:12.48 | kergoth | imo |
20:12.56 | Amadeo | LFG is worldwide now |
20:13.06 | Amadeo | it's really a bad idea |
20:13.10 | hyperChipmunk | so turn it off |
20:13.20 | Amadeo | it's going to lag the server regardless of it being on or off |
20:13.41 | Wobin | It's horrifically spammy |
20:13.42 | Wobin | [4. LookingForGroup] [Rubius]: because it's world linked now, everyone can see everyone's chat, that's why they're doing it |
20:13.42 | Wobin | [4. LookingForGroup] [Noctemar]: Because everyone can hear you, and we're all attention whores. |
20:13.53 | weab | you do know the chat channels are on completely different servers than the world right |
20:13.58 | Wobin | And I just got dumped back to the character page |
20:14.01 | Amadeo | Wobin: How'd you copy/paste text lines? |
20:14.13 | Mikma | chatlog? |
20:14.15 | Wobin | With one of AL's new addons |
20:14.15 | kergoth | huh. global lfg eh, no need for calltoarms anymore |
20:14.19 | Amadeo | weab: Then why did chat spamming crash the Test server? |
20:14.29 | Wobin | Although it's not perfected, as he's still working on it |
20:14.37 | Wobin | but it works fairly well |
20:15.04 | Neronix | kergoth: I'd say keep it. They'll probably change it back to being zone-specific |
20:15.08 | Amadeo | SuperInspect is broken :( |
20:16.07 | Amadeo | I love SuperInspect |
20:16.12 | CIA-10 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3038 10Lexan-Ace2/Lexan.lua: Lexan (Ace2 conversion) - Initialize(), Enable() and Disable() --> OnInitialize(), OnEnable() and OnDisable() |
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20:16.23 | Codayus | Hmm |
20:16.42 | Mikma | just use /inspect meanwhile :P |
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20:16.50 | Amadeo | hehe |
20:16.50 | Codayus | Okay, how do I *install* 1.11? :-( |
20:17.09 | Amadeo | Mikma: My reasons for loving SuperInspect are mainly for color coded items and durability info on each at a glance :P |
20:17.12 | Wobin | isn't the patcher doing itself? |
20:17.12 | Codayus | Grabbed it from a torrent... |
20:17.26 | Codayus | And have hmm, 3 MPQs. |
20:17.34 | Mikma | Amadeo: i know my gf uses it too :P but use the normal inspect while chester fix it |
20:17.50 | Mikma | or, fix it yourself :D |
20:18.26 | Amadeo | haha |
20:18.49 | Codayus | nm |
20:19.22 | Neronix | Amadeo: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/download-13579.html |
20:19.42 | Neronix | CF beta for 1.11 |
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20:20.00 | Neronix | Kirkburn says he's quickly recoding his site before releasing the final ver |
20:20.47 | CIA-10 | 03wobin * r3039 10PlowKing/ (PlowKingBagSlot.lua PlowKingLocals.lua): PlowKing - Fixed an issue with items that needed to update after a tick due to loading |
20:21.58 | Amadeo | thanks Neronix |
20:21.59 | Amadeo | :) |
20:22.38 | haste_ | Xull hits you for 2195. |
20:22.39 | Neronix | np |
20:22.46 | haste_ | Warriors aren't imba ! |
20:23.17 | Kebinusan | sweet thanks for the clearfont dl |
20:25.24 | Neronix | Who wrote AceEvent? |
20:25.59 | kergoth | the ace1 incarnation? |
20:26.39 | Neronix | Ace2 |
20:27.01 | Neronix | Proposing a minor optimisation :P |
20:27.04 | kergoth | ah, pretty sure that was clad |
20:27.17 | Neronix | I'll send him a botmail then |
20:28.45 | Tekkub | PK handle the keyring yet? :) |
20:28.48 | Mikma | ~moredots |
20:28.49 | purl | handle it! |
20:29.03 | Mikma | Wobin: yes, just as purl said |
20:31.10 | Wobin | I don't know, I've not been able to log on for any appreciable time |
20:31.26 | Wobin | But if the keys get automatically moved into the ring, then no |
20:31.34 | Wobin | since they no longer exist in the bags |
20:33.12 | Tekkub | they don't if you have the keys right now |
20:33.27 | Tekkub | well you could bounce em into the bank and back to fix that tho |
20:33.34 | MoonWolf | does the Keyring handle as a bag |
20:33.39 | MoonWolf | or as a seperate baglike system ? |
20:33.43 | Wobin | I honestly don't know |
20:33.44 | Tekkub | it looks like a bag :) |
20:33.52 | Tekkub | it acts like a bag to the user |
20:34.30 | MoonWolf | it could be an extra bag slot that act much the same as the soulbags, or the enchanting bags |
20:34.37 | MoonWolf | it could be something totally different. |
20:36.56 | Neronix | There's a small button to the left of bag4's button |
20:37.02 | Neronix | that opens up the keyring |
20:37.37 | Neronix | The number of slots gets bigger as the player levels |
20:37.51 | Mikma | crap |
20:38.06 | Mikma | that means i have to mod Bartender when 1.11 is live here |
20:38.50 | Mikma | anyone knows what's the button called? |
20:40.03 | haste_ | Mikma, http://fuxsake.net/ << search for keyring :p |
20:40.34 | Mikma | *drool* thanks bookmarking that |
20:41.03 | Wobin | KeyRingButton |
20:41.36 | haste_ | I suck at updating it tho' Mikma :p |
20:42.00 | netcurse | http://narcissus-guild.com/raidassistant.swf |
20:42.06 | Mikma | haste_: doesn't matter, you're still doing fine job on putting it on the net |
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20:43.26 | Mikma | i wonder is the BG statuswindow properly sized now |
20:43.36 | Mikma | it has been too small for 2 mayor patches |
20:46.05 | MoonWolf | i hope |
20:46.11 | MoonWolf | annoyed the hell out of me. |
20:46.46 | netcurse | 2-2 |
20:46.47 | netcurse | lol |
20:47.41 | Neronix`afk | ? |
20:48.00 | netcurse | swe-eng |
20:48.10 | Neronix`afk | ooo |
20:53.56 | Industrial | hope swe wins |
21:20.36 | maia | icehockey? swimming? beachvolleyball? |
21:20.59 | Mikma | soccer |
21:24.37 | kergoth | the US not calling it football doesnt make any sense |
21:24.41 | kergoth | silly americans |
21:24.43 | kergoth | (and i am one) |
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21:26.49 | CIA-10 | 03shyva 07Shyva * r3040 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs/ Shyva/): Removed file/folder: Cleaning up my branch. |
21:27.29 | pagefault | blah |
21:27.31 | pagefault | patch day |
21:27.41 | kergoth | indeed |
21:27.43 | kergoth | madness! |
21:27.51 | netcurse | first time i like a patchday |
21:28.01 | pagefault | are the notes up yet |
21:28.01 | netcurse | because i m not bloody stressed of the site totally down |
21:28.35 | kergoth | netcurse: grats :) |
21:28.37 | CIA-10 | 03shyva 07Shyva * r3041 10BigWigs/BigWigs/: |
21:28.37 | CIA-10 | BigWigs: |
21:28.37 | CIA-10 | - Added an easy way to add toggles to warnings. See Twins.lua and Test.lua for examples. (/bw warnings to toggle the warnings) |
21:28.42 | pagefault | I am interested in this new shadow ward |
21:28.59 | kergoth | i'm interested in all sorts of things. i still have no idea how to respec my main |
21:29.02 | kergoth | :) |
21:29.07 | pagefault | haha wow |
21:29.13 | pagefault | CoA works even when I am dead or leave |
21:30.03 | pagefault | it's cool that respec gold amount will diminish now |
21:30.05 | maia | anyone have an easy solution for the following problem? I'd want to identify the numbers in strings like "raid2", "raidpet24" etc. I guess there's an easier way than: if string.find(unitid,"partypet") then num = tonumber(string.sub(unitid,8)) else num = tonumber(string.sub(unitid,5)) end |
21:30.14 | maia | *raidpet |
21:30.31 | kergoth | pagefault: yeah, that is nice. i often switch chars, go months without playing one.. will be nice to be able to go back and easily respec :) |
21:30.53 | pagefault | I am up to 50g per respec on my main now |
21:31.07 | kergoth | ow |
21:31.16 | FryGuy | maia: why not just string.find(unitid, "(%d+)") |
21:31.28 | kergoth | i'm so happy i wont lose my 2h weapon skill when i respec my shammy anymore |
21:31.37 | maia | FryGuy: because I didn't know that works. Thanks :) |
21:32.02 | FryGuy | i think it's _, _, num = string.find(unitid, "(%d+)") |
21:32.05 | FryGuy | i could be wrong |
21:32.17 | pagefault | what are key rings |
21:33.03 | pagefault | <PROTECTED> |
21:33.11 | pagefault | then I saw shards |
21:33.14 | pagefault | and I almost wet myself |
21:33.18 | pagefault | but that wasn't soul shards |
21:33.32 | maia | FryGuy: well, it doesnt work. |
21:34.18 | kergoth | key rings are nifty |
21:34.21 | CIA-10 | 03shyva 07Shyva * r3042 10BigWigs/BigWigs/: Removed file/folder: going to try that again :-/ |
21:34.23 | kergoth | no more wasting space in my bank |
21:34.33 | pagefault | so they hold your keys? |
21:34.47 | kergoth | yep, the permanent instance keys. scarlet, etc |
21:34.54 | pagefault | ah nice |
21:35.04 | pagefault | no more "brb while I port to org to get key can you summon me back kthx" |
21:35.12 | kergoth | hehe, yep |
21:35.15 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
21:36.13 | maia | FryGuy: my bad, the second one works |
21:38.02 | CIA-10 | 03shyva 07Shyva * r3043 10BigWigs/BigWigs/ (20 files in 9 dirs): |
21:38.02 | CIA-10 | BigWigsBigWigsBigWigs: (second try) |
21:38.02 | CIA-10 | - Added an easy way to add toggles to warnings. See Twins.lua and Test.lua for examples. (/bw warnings to toggle the warnings) |
21:38.43 | Shyva | branching is hard |
21:38.57 | maia | eww: UnitInRaid("raidpet2") is false. |
21:38.59 | kergoth | its a copy |
21:39.03 | kergoth | thats all |
21:39.53 | Shyva | so many wrong buttons to press kergoth :o |
21:40.02 | kergoth | oh, gui. pfft |
21:40.03 | kergoth | :P |
21:40.19 | Shyva | ^^ |
21:41.07 | Shyva | I'm going to sleep now, nn people |
21:53.18 | Neronix`afk | How am I supposed to register an addon with Ace2? Do I just do MyAddon = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0")() and MyAddon.author = "Dr Foo" etc, or do I pass a table to it like the way it was done in Ace1? |
21:53.54 | maia | tekkub, you there? |
21:54.18 | Neronix | I know it can take data via GetAddonMetadata, but 1.11's not out for EU yet :P |
21:59.37 | maia | anyone noticed any changes with PlaySoundFile() ? |
21:59.41 | Syzx | maia: is Squishy broken? :( |
21:59.53 | maia | 1.11 doesnt play any soundfiles triggered by addons at the moment |
22:00.00 | maia | Syzx: I'm working on a fix right now |
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22:00.32 | Syzx | it doesnt show up :( |
22:00.52 | Syzx | i want to get C'Thun down before the servers go down, and i'm playing without your fabulous mod now :( |
22:01.04 | maia | Syzx: it's broken in raids, hopefully have a fix in the next 20min |
22:01.12 | Syzx | please do :D |
22:01.34 | maia | all I need is to find out why PlaySoundFile() doesnt work :) |
22:04.41 | maia | can anyone confirm the problem with PlaySoundFile() ? |
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22:08.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
22:09.17 | Tem | awesome... |
22:09.24 | Tem | today fucking sucked |
22:09.26 | CIA-10 | 03maia * r3044 10Squishy/ (Squishy.toc core.lua developer-todo.txt roster.lua): Squishy: raid problems fixed, updated toc for 1.11 |
22:09.30 | Tem | and it's almost donw |
22:09.32 | Tem | done |
22:09.36 | Tem | just 2 more hours |
22:09.49 | maia | Syzx: I just uploaded the 1.11 version, even though I didnt find a solution for PlaySoundFile() |
22:10.07 | Tem | oh yay. wowace is down too |
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22:13.48 | kergoth | hehe, the channel for the d language is 100% poltics, not D, today |
22:14.27 | MoonWolf | it happens. |
22:15.00 | netcurse | Hey Moon |
22:15.01 | netcurse | how are you |
22:15.06 | MoonWolf | fine |
22:15.14 | MoonWolf | making rounds before going to bed. |
22:15.34 | netcurse | nice |
22:15.40 | kergoth | not just politics, but gun control |
22:15.41 | kergoth | this is fun |
22:15.43 | MoonWolf | hope you are all set for the hell that is going to be tommorow. |
22:15.57 | netcurse | yep |
22:16.04 | netcurse | tomorow is the real patchday |
22:16.07 | Tekkub | they nerfed texture/model replacement didn't they? |
22:16.28 | MoonWolf | they did |
22:16.29 | MoonWolf | damnit |
22:16.37 | MoonWolf | no more black dragonstalker |
22:16.44 | Tekkub | note to slouken: the default lootFX are shit |
22:17.44 | MoonWolf | night people |
22:17.53 | Neronix | night |
22:19.51 | maia | Tekkub: found a bug in ProximityLib: in raids, the library doesnt return any data for your own pet |
22:20.42 | ckknight | back |
22:21.24 | Tekkub | yea maia, it doesn't track pets just normal units |
22:21.34 | maia | ew. |
22:21.43 | Tekkub | I don't know if interact distance even works with pets |
22:22.22 | CIA-10 | 03ammo * r3045 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: |
22:22.22 | CIA-10 | BigWigs (C'Thun): |
22:22.22 | CIA-10 | * It's getting old, but timer adjustments again, this time verified, and working, not touching phase 1 anymore. |
22:22.22 | CIA-10 | * Fixed the group warning for dark glare it should be more accurate now. |
22:22.22 | CIA-10 | * The offset into phase 2 is tested now and working as well. Couldn't get C'Thun weakened, so that rescheduling needs |
22:22.24 | CIA-10 | <PROTECTED> |
22:22.46 | [Ammo] | had around 15 wipes on C'Thun :) |
22:22.54 | [Ammo] | lots of time to adjust code |
22:22.59 | hyperChipmunk | you mean 'test cases' |
22:23.03 | [Ammo] | yeah |
22:23.07 | [Ammo] | put bugmount on follow |
22:23.09 | [Ammo] | alt-tab fix mod |
22:23.10 | hyperChipmunk | 'whoops sorry guys' |
22:23.12 | [Ammo] | and reload :) |
22:23.28 | [Ammo] | well we got into phase 2 with 38 alive for the first time |
22:23.30 | Makk | http://www.deface.no/img/seal.png |
22:23.52 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
22:23.55 | maia | Tekkub: planning to test it? Squishy pet support is a problem with ProximityLib not working for pets :) |
22:24.17 | Tekkub | not right now, but sometime soon |
22:24.23 | Tekkub | or you can, it's not hard to do |
22:24.34 | Tekkub | you'll only need to add the units to the iterator |
22:24.48 | [Ammo] | interactdistance works on pets |
22:24.58 | [Ammo] | (since the cthunwarner beepbeep mod reports pets of others) |
22:25.08 | [Ammo] | and it uses interactdistance as well |
22:25.11 | Kebinusan | ouch |
22:25.40 | CIA-10 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3046 10Lexan-Ace2/ (Lexan.lua Lexan.toc): |
22:25.41 | CIA-10 | Lexan (Ace2 conversion) |
22:25.41 | CIA-10 | - Updated TOC for 1.11 |
22:25.41 | CIA-10 | - Updated TOC to work with GetAddonMetadata |
22:25.41 | CIA-10 | - Added GetInstances |
22:25.41 | CIA-10 | - Added metadata compatibility code for 1.10 clients |
22:25.43 | CIA-10 | Ready to test!! |
22:26.02 | Kaelten | Neronix: are you coding with ace2 already? |
22:26.26 | Neronix | I'm just helpin to test it by creating a real-world example |
22:26.34 | maia | Tekkub: hmm, UpdateUnit() is already called for all units in self.vars.roster, which probably also includes pets, right? |
22:27.32 | Tekkub | no the roster is created from the iterator, the itorator doesn't handle pets |
22:27.32 | Tekkub | you need to add pets to the iterator |
22:28.22 | maia | Tekkub: pets already are in - UnitIDIter() does not ignore pets |
22:28.27 | Kaelten | Neronix: ah, its apprciated :) |
22:28.41 | Kaelten | Neronix: is it working for you? |
22:28.44 | Tekkub | okey then I don't know |
22:29.00 | maia | Tekkub: well, I think it does work for other pets, but not for your own pet |
22:29.03 | Neronix | No idea, login server's down |
22:29.11 | Kaelten | lol |
22:29.12 | maia | remember the problem with "player"? |
22:29.18 | maia | guess it's the same for the pet |
22:29.26 | [Ammo] | european login servers were shut down at 0:00 |
22:30.01 | Neronix | And it probably won't work immediately since I had to work out how to do things by reading each lib's code and stuff in the test suite |
22:30.07 | Neronix | [Ammo]: maintenance already? |
22:30.18 | [Ammo] | yeah |
22:30.21 | Neronix | k |
22:30.23 | [Ammo] | they announced login servers to be down |
22:30.26 | [Ammo] | for upgrades |
22:30.32 | [Ammo] | so if you logout you can't get back in |
22:30.52 | CIA-10 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3047 10Lexan-Ace2/Lexan.lua: Lexan (Ace2 conversion) - Removed <1.11 compatibility code |
22:30.56 | Tekkub | pet is in the iter, it must not work then |
22:31.01 | Syzx | maia: Thanks, I'm still on 1.10 here in Europe though ;-) |
22:31.12 | Makk | they're speaking fucking danish on VT |
22:31.13 | Makk | :X |
22:31.25 | Neronix | Can someone test it please? |
22:31.29 | Makk | no |
22:31.30 | Makk | ^^ |
22:31.35 | Neronix | ;_; |
22:31.42 | Makk | Because *drumroll* you can't restart the game |
22:31.55 | Neronix | well, I was looking for someone American |
22:31.55 | Makk | 00:35:36 < [Ammo]> they announced login servers to be down |
22:31.58 | Makk | 00:35:45 < [Ammo]> so if you logout you can't get back in |
22:32.00 | Makk | ah |
22:32.03 | Makk | emericans |
22:32.06 | Makk | err |
22:32.08 | Makk | >_> |
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22:38.41 | maia | seems as if myBags doesn't support the keyring bag |
22:38.52 | Kaelten | I doubt any of them will at first |
22:39.17 | maia | assumed the keyring bag is technically like the enchanting/ammo/ bags |
22:39.34 | Neronix | Shigeru Miyamoto: "We're looking to push boundaries and attract new admirers. Women, girls… They're only the beginning." |
22:39.39 | Kaelten | its probably an additional bag slot, isn't it? |
22:39.41 | Neronix | And then, we're going to Mississippi |
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22:39.47 | Neronix | and Alabama! |
22:39.49 | Neronix | And Idaho! |
22:39.56 | Neronix | and South Carolina |
22:40.00 | Cairenn | yo, guys, getting an error with AceGUI: \AceGUIElement.lua:44: 'KC_LinkviewFrameSortBoxTier2MenuRow12' has no child 'DisabledText'. |
22:40.01 | Neronix | And then the White House! YEARGH! |
22:40.02 | kergoth | 15:46 < TrevorParscal> +void anger() { delete society[rand(0, society.length)]; } |
22:40.19 | Kaelten | Cairenn: I know but I need to get into game to test and fix those |
22:40.31 | Neronix | I'm surprised that nobody seems to get it |
22:40.46 | Ratbert_CP | AceGUI is hosed... Buttons now have *one* fontstring, and three fonts. (I think) |
22:41.09 | Cairenn | first got it saying BulkMail, disabled it then got it said KCI ... |
22:41.33 | Kaelten | ya I need to fix a few things in AceGUI Cairenn |
22:41.43 | Ratbert_CP | Could even be BagBoy (although I *did* make AceGUI an optional dep) |
22:41.54 | Cairenn | just figured I'd let you know in case no one else had reported it yet |
22:42.07 | Kaelten | but until the login server is fixed I can't do much :s |
22:42.22 | Cairenn | I just logged in fine |
22:42.56 | Kaelten | :s its still not letting me in |
22:43.03 | Ratbert_CP | Nor I... |
22:43.13 | Cairenn | guess Blizz just hates you guys |
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22:43.57 | Kaelten | well I'll be back in a min, gotta go get me daughter |
22:45.51 | maia | as for myBags - is this the recommended bags addon anyway? I've noticed quite a mem usage with open bags, and it hasnt been updated in the past months either. I might have missed the shiny new bag mod. |
22:46.08 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: in addition to the error message with AceGUI, I am also getting this error message with BulkMail (may be related): \BulkMail\BulkMail.lua:90: attempt to index field 'gui' (a nil value) |
22:46.37 | Cairenn | maia: check out bagnon |
22:47.11 | hyperChipmunk | that's because there's no gui =x |
22:47.19 | hyperChipmunk | because AceGUI isn't there, so it can't load |
22:48.17 | Kebinusan | I like engbags |
22:48.23 | Kyahx | PlowKing! |
22:48.25 | Kyahx | hehe |
22:48.51 | ckknight | do people want :print() or :Print()? |
22:49.01 | gnorlish | maia: try bagnon |
22:49.04 | ckknight | :Print() is technically more consistent |
22:49.15 | gnorlish | updated today with keyrings! |
22:50.00 | maia | will do so. I lately reduced my addon usage to addons available on the wowace svn ;) |
22:50.21 | gnorlish | i have a couple that aren't from there |
22:50.25 | gnorlish | bagnon, superinspect |
22:50.36 | Kyahx | bongos :) |
22:50.48 | Industrial | idActionBar |
22:50.50 | Industrial | :P |
22:50.53 | gnorlish | natur enemy cast bar |
22:51.21 | Industrial | noesssss |
22:51.23 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, :print() or :Print()? note: there will also be a :PrintStatus() |
22:51.25 | hyperChipmunk | bongos, superinspect, and tinypad |
22:51.25 | Industrial | servers down |
22:51.27 | Industrial | :( |
22:51.42 | Industrial | (eu) |
22:51.45 | hyperChipmunk | what are we printing? |
22:51.56 | ckknight | text |
22:52.00 | ckknight | :Print("zomg!" |
22:52.02 | ckknight | ) |
22:52.10 | Mikma | Industrial: nope |
22:52.10 | Kyahx | not :msg("Zomg!") |
22:52.11 | Industrial | I'd say printStatus |
22:52.12 | Kyahx | ? |
22:52.13 | hyperChipmunk | both |
22:52.13 | Industrial | :P |
22:52.19 | Mikma | i'm still inside EU |
22:52.19 | Kyahx | I've never used print, haha |
22:52.27 | Industrial | Mikma: i cant login |
22:52.34 | ckknight | :PrintStatus('thingy', true) |
22:52.41 | Mikma | you're not the only one, i was able moment ago |
22:52.43 | hyperChipmunk | I'll use print('foo') anyway |
22:52.47 | hyperChipmunk | if you want a special ace print |
22:52.47 | ckknight | would print out "thingy is now set to On" |
22:52.49 | Industrial | ok |
22:52.49 | Mikma | my friend can't log in either |
22:52.53 | hyperChipmunk | like the acecmd.msg stuff |
22:52.57 | hyperChipmunk | make it Print |
22:53.06 | ckknight | yea, this replaces self.cmd:msg |
22:53.12 | maia | ckknight: I'd want a :debug that doesn't error if one of the strings is nil. |
22:53.13 | ckknight | it's just self:Print |
22:53.21 | ckknight | maia, hush, you |
22:53.37 | ckknight | yea, gotta make AceDebug... |
22:53.37 | Kyahx | maia: is the newest version of squishy working? I heard there was some bugs with pets. |
22:53.59 | maia | Kyahx: yeah, the one I uploaded 40min ago should work for raids. |
22:54.23 | Kyahx | mmkay |
22:54.56 | ckknight | btw, self:Print("alpha %s %s %s", 1, nil, 2) works. |
22:55.10 | ckknight | it'll actually print out "alpha 1 nil 2" |
22:55.25 | maia | ckknight: so :debug will behave the same? |
22:55.33 | Tekkub | it better! |
22:55.35 | ckknight | I don't know, maia |
22:55.45 | ckknight | I haven't made AceDebug |
22:55.54 | CIA-10 | 03otravi 07otravi * r3048 10otravi_UnitFrames/oUF/otravi_UnitFrames.lua: oUF2 - Fixed smoothbars not working on party and party member's pets. |
22:55.59 | ckknight | I'm making AceConsole now. |
22:56.09 | maia | AceConsole? |
22:56.09 | haste_ | console? |
22:56.19 | ckknight | yea, it's basically AceChatCmd |
22:56.24 | ckknight | only with a more relevant name |
22:57.00 | maia | yay |
22:57.12 | ckknight | also, shinier |
22:57.12 | maia | hopefully with less code duplication for dewdrop? |
22:57.30 | ckknight | code duplication for dewdrop? |
22:57.52 | ckknight | it's likely I'll be making AceMenu |
22:58.10 | maia | :) |
22:58.17 | ckknight | which'll take the same table as AceCommand's RegisterInputCommand |
22:58.23 | ckknight | err |
22:58.26 | ckknight | AceConsole* |
22:58.36 | maia | hmm, Bagnon is nice, but I'm missing scaling and the option to define the number of slots per line |
22:59.07 | Industrial | OneBag |
22:59.47 | maia | gah, I just replaced myBags with Bagnon as everyone suggested it. Industrial, your suggestion is too late ;) |
23:00.11 | Industrial | y:p |
23:00.28 | gnorlish | bagnon has those options |
23:01.11 | Neronix | ckknight: Are all the misc functions like ace.toggle and ace.round going to be in too? |
23:01.19 | ckknight | prolly not. |
23:01.23 | maia | gnorlish: only slash options are: help, bags, bank, overridebank, tooltips |
23:01.32 | Neronix | Why? |
23:01.35 | gnorlish | right click on the top area of the actual bag |
23:01.41 | ckknight | because Ace no longer exists as an entity. |
23:01.42 | gnorlish | but not on your name, to the right |
23:02.12 | ckknight | I'm sure if you made a library with those commands, people might use it |
23:02.14 | Neronix | So what should be done instead? An AceMiscFuncs embed or something? |
23:02.22 | Neronix | Yeah, I might go do that |
23:02.23 | ckknight | yep |
23:02.32 | ckknight | library, not mixin |
23:03.10 | ckknight | but that'd be a good idea, Neronix |
23:03.28 | maia | gnorlish: aah, thanks. |
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23:04.47 | maia | ckknight: what about GetOpt, SetOpt, TogOpt, TogMsg, Report - I see them in nearly every ace addon |
23:04.55 | ckknight | not anymore! |
23:05.06 | ckknight | doesn't fit with the new database system |
23:05.27 | ckknight | though you theoretically could put em in manually |
23:05.42 | ckknight | function self:GetOpt(key) return self.db.profile[key] end |
23:05.49 | ckknight | or what have you |
23:05.55 | ckknight | I'd prefer people to deal with it raw |
23:06.04 | ckknight | it's faster and often clearer |
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23:08.14 | ckknight | Report will probably be added in for you |
23:09.11 | ckknight | or more likely PrintReport() |
23:09.59 | maia | ckknight: well, something that would replace self.cmd:status(text, self.db:toggle({self.profilePath}, var), MAP_ONOFF) would be nice |
23:11.10 | Neronix | Hmm, should it be called AceUtils rather than AceMiscFuncs, or would that cause confustion? |
23:11.32 | Neronix | actually, it won't be a bad idea |
23:12.06 | maia | AceUtilsLib? |
23:12.07 | Neronix | AceUtils is currently the whole embed concept on crack |
23:12.09 | ckknight | self:PrintStatus('thingy', self.db.profile.thingy) |
23:12.09 | ckknight | done. |
23:12.18 | maia | nice |
23:12.22 | ckknight | Neronix, AceUtils. |
23:12.32 | Neronix | K |
23:12.38 | ckknight | if you don't provide a map to PrintStatus, and it's a boolean, it automatically goes to On/Off |
23:12.38 | maia | ckknight: wait - self.db.profile.thingy will toggle? |
23:12.51 | ckknight | maia, self.db.profile.thingy = not self.db.profile.thingy |
23:12.55 | kergoth | hehe, my bro played on my shaman yesterday cause his account got comprimised an disabled.. apparently he took me from scout to sargeant already. that was fast |
23:13.10 | ckknight | how, kergoth? |
23:13.17 | ckknight | oh |
23:13.21 | ckknight | nvm |
23:13.23 | ckknight | his account |
23:13.26 | maia | ckknight: you're confusing me. |
23:13.26 | ckknight | not yours |
23:13.33 | ckknight | maia, self.db.profile.thingy gets a value |
23:13.38 | ckknight | the thingy key of your profile |
23:13.45 | ckknight | self.db.profile.thingy = true |
23:13.54 | maia | ckknight: ah, value = not value is a nice trick ;) |
23:14.00 | ckknight | self.db.profile.thingy = not self.db.profile.thingy |
23:14.02 | ckknight | zomg toggle |
23:14.12 | ckknight | it's clear, though, right? |
23:14.26 | Amadeo | I have two chat tabs, one is the typical chat page and one is made by me...whenever I log in, my tab is focused on the second tab every time |
23:14.37 | Amadeo | is this a WoW bug, or a bug in idChat? |
23:15.25 | Amadeo | started with 1.11 |
23:15.32 | maia | ckknight: yeah, it is. so value = not value will toggle between 1 and false? or is it true/false? or 1 and nil= |
23:15.36 | maia | ...nil? |
23:17.54 | Neronix | toggles between true and false |
23:18.17 | Neronix | Just tested that a few mins ago while I was thinking about ace.toggle |
23:19.02 | Neronix | turns out ace.toggle wasn't as good as it could've been |
23:19.36 | Neronix | It's "if( val ) then return FALSE end; return true;" when it can just be "return not val;" |
23:19.54 | Neronix | s/return true/return TRUE; |
23:20.06 | Neronix | trailing slash... |
23:23.41 | ckknight | true and false, maia |
23:23.52 | ckknight | Ace2 will no longer use the TRUE/FALSE scheme |
23:24.23 | hyperChipmunk | I love how these symbols have compression artifacts |
23:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | the raid markers |
23:24.49 | ckknight | TRUE/FALSE are no longer needed with AceDB2 |
23:24.56 | CIA-10 | 03neronix * r3049 10/branches/AceUtils/: Created folder remotely |
23:25.31 | ckknight | Neronix, you should just need AceLibrary.lua |
23:25.43 | ckknight | it's in AceLibrary/ckknight/AceLibrary.lua |
23:26.00 | Kaelten | back |
23:26.05 | ckknight | hey Kaelten |
23:26.16 | maia | so when do you expect Ace2 to be ready? Is it now rather a matter of days or something like 3 weeks? Wondering if I should wait for Ace2 and convert Squishy to Ace2 before releasing it on wowi. |
23:26.24 | CIA-10 | 03neronix 07Neronix * r3050 10AceUtils/ (. API.txt AceUtils.toc Lib/ Lib/AceUtils.lua): AceUtils - Created branch. Will aim to include all the misc functions that were in Ace 1.x and the old AceUtils. Currently blank for now becuase I need sleep :P |
23:26.46 | ckknight | we'll have an alpha soon |
23:27.05 | Neronix | ckknight: I know. It's your branch I'm testing Lexan 2.0 with |
23:27.06 | Kaelten | back |
23:27.20 | ckknight | you already said back, Kaelten |
23:27.27 | Kaelten | oh woops |
23:28.14 | Neronix | Well, actually I haven't been able to test yet because maintenance is starting in Eu |
23:28.26 | ckknight | okay |
23:28.55 | Kaelten | woot I can log in |
23:29.52 | ckknight | yea, I'm gonna do WoW testing for Ace2 now |
23:30.07 | Amadeo | hey Kaelten |
23:30.12 | Amadeo | AceGUI isn't happy :( |
23:31.04 | Kaelten | Amadeo: I know and am working on it now that I'm logged in |
23:31.19 | Amadeo | :) |
23:31.20 | Amadeo | <3 |
23:31.31 | Neronix`sleep | night |
23:32.07 | Amadeo | night Neronix |
23:32.56 | Kaelten | night Neronix`sleep |
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23:39.46 | hyperChipmunk | hi middleclick |
23:40.00 | Tain | :) |
23:40.04 | kergoth | i wish i'd stop trying to middle click paste in windows |
23:40.09 | Tain | Word to me |
23:40.16 | Tain | ./dev/md0 688G 129M 653G 1% /home/store |
23:40.43 | Tain | Hello RAID-5, goodbye lost music! |
23:41.46 | kergoth | hooray |
23:49.40 | CIA-10 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r3051 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon.lua AceDB.lua AceEvent.lua): Ace2 - fixed assorted bugs. |
23:50.39 | ckknight | Ace2 now works in WoW :-) |
23:53.17 | Amadeo | SCT faction bugs are driving me NUTS! |
23:53.20 | Kebinusan | ok totally needs to be a function to turn off these raid target icons |
23:56.54 | Amadeo | is there an addon that totally supresses error message popups? that's what I want |
23:57.10 | kergoth | iirc its errorredirect |
23:57.13 | kergoth | i used to use it |
23:58.07 | Amadeo | nice |
23:58.13 | Amadeo | because SCT is popping stuff up every second in AV |
23:58.23 | Amadeo | and I don't need to see it, it works, just no faction scrolls |
23:58.29 | hyperChipmunk | bugsack is your friend |
23:59.00 | kergoth | ah yeah, actual lua errors rather than the red messages, those you want bugsack |
23:59.14 | maia | bugsack has no sound though in 1.11. I miss it. |
23:59.55 | hyperChipmunk | worms speech sounds ftw |