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| 00:12.45 | kergoth | i need to try out Squishy |
| 00:12.51 | kergoth | with my shaman |
| 00:21.18 | Tain | Why don't all druids understand yet that people want them on raids so that they can heal? Smaller groups, go crazy. But 40 man? Heal. |
| 00:21.58 | steino | most of our druids either go oomkin or feral |
| 00:21.58 | steino | :p |
| 00:22.16 | steino | and our shamans go either pewpew or melee |
| 00:22.40 | steino | and priests go damage |
| 00:23.08 | steino | xD |
| 00:23.13 | Tain | I think it's great that classes can do different things. It makes for nice fun and variety while playing. |
| 00:23.25 | Tain | But a 40 man raid needs healing. |
| 00:25.52 | Mikma | so, how was it.. druid doesn't use the DPS of the weapon, only it's stats? |
| 00:26.01 | Mikma | in feral-form i mean |
| 00:26.27 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:28.04 | Mikma | any idea where can i find good feral-info? |
| 00:28.22 | Mikma | all i have been able to find is builds, but not info |
| 00:29.49 | Tain | That's because everyone hates a feral druid. |
| 00:30.01 | Mikma | why's that? :) |
| 00:30.51 | Tain | Nah I don't know, I've never played a druid. |
| 00:31.03 | Tain | They're just a... mmm I'd term it as a very selfish class. |
| 00:31.31 | Tain | Very fun to play since you can do a lot of different things. |
| 00:31.52 | Tain | But nothign that really comes out to help other people if you play for a lot of melee, or a lot of casting damage. |
| 00:31.52 | Thrae | Mikma: What do you want to know about it? |
| 00:32.07 | Mikma | well i find it quite funny class after all, i just tanked/backstabbed 2x deadmines :D |
| 00:32.29 | Mikma | Thrae: the usual info, what stats are good, what items, what talents etc |
| 00:33.12 | Thrae | Tain: Feral Druids are just selfish because a lot of people pidgeon hole ALL Druids as healers only. |
| 00:33.32 | Thrae | Now that Feral Druids can actually DO something, they want to do it until they drop! |
| 00:33.51 | Tain | It's a fun class to play because of everything you can do, the variety. It's just that when you get to 40 man raids you can't tank things (except in short term emergencies, and no bosses), you can't compete sufficiently with other people's DPS. |
| 00:34.08 | Mikma | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/rainbow_dragon/Warcraft/eathed.jpg |
| 00:34.12 | Tain | You have to heal. And many druids don't want to do that because they feel like they can do a lot of other things. Which is true, you can do a lot of other things. |
| 00:34.28 | Tain | Just nothing that's not done better in a raid by someone else. |
| 00:34.30 | Thrae | Tain: Properly geared Druids can tank all the MC bosses. Go to http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/druids, they have pics and vids somewhere. |
| 00:34.49 | steino | 35 druids took ony! |
| 00:34.55 | steino | :P |
| 00:35.00 | Thrae | Well that's true, but what if you can't get a well-skilled Warrior? |
| 00:35.32 | Tain | Well, it's a lot more common to be short handed on healers than on tanks. |
| 00:35.34 | Mikma | hehe, our "well-skilled warrior" got lost in the holes of DM and left party :D |
| 00:36.08 | Tain | If you have an over-abundance of healers than a lot of different classes when "properly equipped" could take. |
| 00:36.12 | Mikma | this is something cool! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-druid&t=792259&p=1&tmp=1#post792259 |
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| 00:36.58 | Mikma | i think this is the best one http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/rainbow_dragon/Warcraft/noninervate.jpg :D |
| 00:37.15 | kergoth | i actually got bored of my shaman once i hit 60, since i got stuck in the healing role in raids, same shit, different day |
| 00:37.19 | kergoth | went back to new alts |
| 00:37.21 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:37.36 | Thrae | Mikma: Feral PvE Grinding -- Focus on Agility, then Strength. Because of Rogues, it's easier to find +Agi then +Str, but +Agi and +Str items are ++. +1 Agility gives you +1 AP in Cat, and increases your crit chance (here comes Blood Frenzy). |
| 00:38.26 | Thrae | Mikma: Feral PvE Grouping -- Healing Set (+Int, +Spirit, +Healing) and optional Bear Tanking Set (+Stamina, +Str). If you're grinding/questing your way to 40-50, don't bother with these. |
| 00:38.53 | Thrae | Well, until 40-50 that is, then you'll need them, ESPECIALLY for raids as Tain pointed out you may be called on to do some healing. |
| 00:40.25 | Mikma | ooh, thanks, copypaste |
| 00:40.34 | Thrae | Feral PvP -- Depends on what role you want to fill. Early on, +Stamina, +Str (in that order) makes a fine goal, especially since it's rather hard for Druids to kill things quickly in PvP. Later, if you find yourself healing more, swap out +Str for +Int. |
| 00:40.42 | Mikma | i noticed that my mana ran out _really_ fast in instance as healer |
| 00:40.58 | Mikma | like 4-5 heals and manapool was spent |
| 00:43.21 | Mikma | and only items's stats matter, not the dps / speed? |
| 00:44.04 | Thrae | Mikma: What level Feral Druid? |
| 00:44.10 | Mikma | Thrae: 22 :( |
| 00:44.48 | Mikma | as i said before, i got Smith's Mace from DeadMines |
| 00:45.03 | Mikma | but i sold it as crap and wasn't able to buyback it. goddamn i feel so owned |
| 00:45.11 | Mikma | owned by my own stupidity |
| 00:45.15 | kergoth | doh |
| 00:45.38 | Thrae | Mikma: Crowd Pummeler from Gnomergan, decent drop rate (~20%), much better stats |
| 00:46.18 | Thrae | Everyone's looking for Gnomergan groups on Maelstrom because it's such an evil instance at lower levels |
| 00:46.27 | Mikma | Thrae: yeah, but wil take some levels to get into gnomeregan. that's why i'm interested that is it really so that item dps/speed doesn't matter |
| 00:46.42 | Thrae | At Level 22, you shouldn't be worrying about your instancing power |
| 00:46.59 | Mikma | since i managed to do 200+ crits with shred |
| 00:46.59 | kergoth | gnomeregan is such a giant pain in the ass |
| 00:47.03 | kergoth | i hate that instance with a passion |
| 00:47.19 | Thrae | Also note: with Feral PvE Healing gear, CLOTH is ACCEPTABLE |
| 00:47.21 | kergoth | only time i go is to stealth run for a guild rogue to get an item off the end guy |
| 00:47.40 | Mikma | http://wow-loot.com/ |
| 00:47.40 | kergoth | and to finish taht quest for the pants |
| 00:47.43 | Thrae | You want to get Cloth replaced by Leather ASAP, but at Levels 1-40 you may not have much choice |
| 00:47.48 | Mikma | i must say that's a pretty damn good site |
| 00:48.04 | Thrae | I use Thottbot myself mostly. |
| 00:48.09 | Mikma | hmm well yeah, i need to get bigger bags first :P |
| 00:48.22 | Mikma | since it's a "new" server with new characters, no money to buy bags from ah |
| 00:48.43 | Mikma | but it's fun again to level a char |
| 00:48.46 | Thrae | For instance, I can use Thottbot to search for quests around my level that offer Cloth or Leather armour with +Int |
| 00:48.54 | Mikma | thinking about getting it near 29 and doing some heavy pvp |
| 00:48.59 | Thrae | And armour that has +Agi, etc. |
| 00:49.09 | Thrae | Mikma: Mining + Engineering is your friend |
| 00:49.31 | kergoth | i love making alts |
| 00:49.33 | kergoth | have too damn many |
| 00:49.36 | Thrae | Mikma: What you probably want to do is try Mining + Herbalism, get a good pot going, then blow it all away on Engineering around Level 40 |
| 00:49.55 | Thrae | Engineering is a Druid's best friend. Especially Goblin Jumper Cables for PvE and loads of toys for PvP. |
| 00:50.18 | Thrae | Did I mention you can't be mind controlled by the Gnomish Mind Cap's backlash effect if you're in kitty? :D |
| 00:50.30 | Mikma | haha |
| 00:51.02 | Mikma | well i already took herb+alch since my GF has skin+lw on her rougepouge |
| 00:51.40 | Thrae | Well, that's not too bad I guess. Play the AH. |
| 00:51.53 | Tain | I love herbalism and alchemy. It's the most useful while levelling. |
| 00:51.57 | Tain | (In my opinion.) |
| 00:52.20 | Mikma | well there's one little problem. can't play with AH much since there are already people doing MC + Onyxia and gathering-quests for AQ are almost done :P |
| 00:52.30 | Thrae | Probably Tain, but I like to do PvP when bored and Engineering's where its at. |
| 00:52.30 | kergoth | if you're a new char on a -somewhat- new server, not too new, i'd go herb/skin or mining/skin for the cashflow |
| 00:52.32 | Mikma | so it's not brand new server |
| 00:53.04 | Thrae | No no, I mean play the AH the normal way -- KCI + AH_ShowBid + MassActionBidder are all good mods. |
| 00:53.15 | Tain | I think Engineering is the most fun overall. |
| 00:53.37 | kergoth | hmm, massauctionbidder, havent messed with that |
| 00:53.38 | Tain | But I don't pvp before 60 anyway. |
| 00:53.52 | Thrae | MassAuctionBidder, yeah. |
| 00:54.05 | kergoth | i'm thinking about switching from my current herbalism/enchanting to engineering/enchanting once i hit 60 |
| 00:54.18 | kergoth | have the cash to buy up the necessary ore/bars |
| 00:54.24 | kergoth | (on the mage) |
| 00:54.45 | Thrae | Engineering/Enchanting is where its at for PvP. |
| 00:55.00 | Thrae | Or maybe Engineering/Alchemy if there are enough Herbalist sellers on the AH. |
| 00:55.11 | Thrae | Which sell the mats lower then the price of buying the potions. |
| 00:57.16 | Mikma | i think, i don't have the nerves for ah-play |
| 00:57.54 | Mikma | i'll rather try to grind my ass off just to see what i can get from the mobs |
| 00:58.06 | Thrae | Well, all you need is basically KCI/Auctioneer/whatever and look if something in your inventory is up on the auction. If it is, and you don't need it, sell it. |
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| 00:59.40 | kergoth | i loev playing the ah |
| 00:59.46 | kergoth | its as much fun as actually playing imo |
| 00:59.52 | Mikma | i was told that almost everything goes in AH on this server |
| 01:00.02 | Thrae | Mmmmm. Did I tell you how much I like Firefox + Fasterfox + Noscript + Flashblock + Adblock + Adblock Filter.G Updater |
| 01:00.12 | Mikma | haven't tried yet, but i'll wait for better items to sell ;) |
| 01:00.50 | Thrae | People that don't know why Firefox is so cool should take a look at these extensions in particular. |
| 01:00.54 | kergoth | Thrae: agreed |
| 01:01.00 | kergoth | i just wish firefox would stop hanging at random lately |
| 01:01.23 | Mikma | firefox 1.5.0.4 has started to crash on my mac |
| 01:01.30 | Mikma | the previous versions didn't :P |
| 01:02.24 | Thrae | Firefox almost never hangs or crashes for me on Windows or Linux. |
| 01:02.46 | Thrae | Flashblock got rid of a lot of the previous hanging on Linux, which was caused by evil Flash scripts. |
| 01:04.32 | kergoth | heh, i didnt even install flash till like last week |
| 01:08.58 | Thrae | Mikma: By the way, for a Feral build, I suggest http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids/talents.html?41000530100000005032201323202151050000000000000 |
| 01:09.46 | Thrae | It's the best PvP / PvE all-around spec build for Druids in my opinion. Respec as required by your guild, of course. |
| 01:09.49 | cladhaire | is it on a PVP server? |
| 01:09.52 | cladhaire | you lie. |
| 01:09.58 | cladhaire | NS > all balance for PVP |
| 01:10.35 | Mikma | Thrae: this one i had in mind http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?MZxxMsfbdtExco |
| 01:10.38 | cladhaire | im of course =) |
| 01:11.52 | Thrae | cladhaire: Eh, Nature's Swiftness isn't THAT important end-game, and the rest of the Resto talents are pretty useless for PvP unless you're mostly a healer. |
| 01:12.04 | cladhaire | I disagree =) |
| 01:12.07 | cladhaire | NS isn't for end game |
| 01:12.08 | cladhaire | its for PVP |
| 01:12.08 | Mikma | well, maybe i will remove the feline swiftness when i hit 40 |
| 01:12.13 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:12.19 | cladhaire | leave the feline swiftness |
| 01:12.25 | cladhaire | i'd go 30/21 |
| 01:12.29 | cladhaire | down to NS |
| 01:12.33 | cladhaire | taking LoTP out. |
| 01:12.38 | cladhaire | but thats if you plan to raid |
| 01:13.32 | cladhaire | and I would avoid Imp MoTW unless you have a specific reason to take it =0 |
| 01:13.40 | Mikma | well i was planning on doing some pvp also, so i'm not sure yet what do i wan't |
| 01:14.10 | Mikma | cladhaire: yeah, i'll get a ultimate nag++ if i leave it out, dunno why it's so freaking important for the ladies |
| 01:14.36 | cladhaire | =( |
| 01:14.47 | cladhaire | thats unfortunate |
| 01:15.07 | Mikma | well anyways the meaning is to be feral/healer, that way i can do something in instances |
| 01:15.18 | Mikma | and grind my ass off by actually killing something |
| 01:15.27 | cladhaire | Sublety is more imporant than MoTW in instances |
| 01:15.42 | cladhaire | i took that build from 0 to 60, and owned ass in pVP =) |
| 01:15.51 | Thrae | Mikma: For that type of spec, I'd recommend this -- http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?MZxGzsfbdxExboMo |
| 01:16.13 | cladhaire | depends if you're talking raid, or instances. |
| 01:16.20 | cladhaire | again sublety is important in lower man instances |
| 01:16.27 | Mikma | Thrae: bear/heal, right? |
| 01:16.27 | cladhaire | but i agree |
| 01:16.45 | cladhaire | bear > cat in BG pvp |
| 01:17.00 | Mikma | well i noticed i wasn't able to drop the aggro from myself in vancleef |
| 01:17.28 | cladhaire | i.e. you had too much healing aggro? |
| 01:17.38 | Mikma | yeah :) |
| 01:17.46 | cladhaire | sublety for the win =) |
| 01:17.50 | Mikma | and that was at level 21 :P |
| 01:17.52 | Thrae | What was your level relative to Vancleef? |
| 01:18.11 | Mikma | Thrae: hmm -3 |
| 01:18.17 | Thrae | Well, learning how to heal as a Druid is far more important then any talents you can pick. |
| 01:18.24 | cladhaire | very true |
| 01:18.27 | cladhaire | i love my druid so much |
| 01:18.30 | Mikma | if i remember correctly VC is lvl24? |
| 01:18.54 | Mikma | Thrae: ok, which healing is better? Healing Touch or Regrowth? |
| 01:19.04 | cladhaire | HT when used properly |
| 01:19.04 | Thrae | Usually, Rejuvination + Regrowth is your friend. Try not to use big HoTs unless you know your tank is good. |
| 01:19.05 | Mikma | i'm really having a hard time on figuring that out |
| 01:19.28 | cladhaire | regrowth is a mana hog.. only use it when you need a real quick heal |
| 01:19.33 | Thrae | 50% of the time I'm stuck with a sucky tank as the primary healer in PUGs. It happens. |
| 01:19.55 | cladhaire | in sucky tank time, rejuv with properly timed HT helps you a lot |
| 01:20.09 | Thrae | Well, it depends on HOW sucky the tank is ;) |
| 01:20.14 | cladhaire | very true |
| 01:20.35 | Thrae | Basically, you don't want to HT below 50% health, then try to keep them alive with Regrowth+Rejuv or you WILL most likely get aggro |
| 01:21.03 | Thrae | Mods like AceHeal are your friend, but you can do the calculations in your head. |
| 01:21.23 | Mikma | Thrae: hmm ain't the combo-talent abit useless? |
| 01:21.32 | cladhaire | keep a 500hp, 1000hp, 2000hp on your click-casting. |
| 01:22.30 | Thrae | Mikma: No, I'm level 39 with 17% crit already in Cat Form. |
| 01:22.45 | Mikma | nice :D |
| 01:22.58 | cladhaire | bear > cat =) |
| 01:23.08 | cladhaire | the rage talent is much bette |
| 01:23.13 | cladhaire | but i'm partial |
| 01:23.17 | Thrae | That's not with really twinked gear even, just regular quest items. |
| 01:23.26 | Mikma | doesn't that depend on the situation? |
| 01:23.40 | Mikma | in instances the bear/healer is good but with PvE cat/healer |
| 01:24.08 | Thrae | Mikma: PvP you need Cat too, for Casters and low-stamina end-game Casters |
| 01:24.39 | Thrae | 1-2 hits I can usually kill Casters, sometimes in 1 good ambush Tiger's Fury + Ravage crit |
| 01:24.47 | Thrae | 2-3 hits I mean |
| 01:25.05 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 01:25.23 | Mikma | ok, how about if i always move around with rogue |
| 01:25.29 | cladhaire | bear |
| 01:25.45 | Thrae | If you're talking about PvP at 29 you definately want to focus on Cat, especially because most people will have low stamina. Now the twinkers, they WILL kill you and you can't do much about it unles you're twinked too. Heavily. |
| 01:26.04 | cladhaire | if you engage a warrior or a rogue in cat form.. you should expect to die. |
| 01:26.07 | cladhaire | paladins you can get away with it |
| 01:26.10 | cladhaire | caus they're dumb |
| 01:26.22 | Mikma | haha that's... sad but true |
| 01:26.30 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:26.53 | Thrae | Well at Level 29 he's talking about WSG and AB, both times I try to avoid heavy armour opponents ;) |
| 01:27.09 | cladhaire | oh yes, in AB cat form all the way |
| 01:27.12 | cladhaire | at that level =) |
| 01:27.17 | cladhaire | WSG as well |
| 01:27.19 | cladhaire | if you're runnin |
| 01:27.22 | cladhaire | gwhich you should be |
| 01:27.38 | cladhaire | this makes me want to play my druid |
| 01:27.45 | Thrae | Bear really starts getting good in PvP when you have your pick of excellent items and talents, so maybe 40+. |
| 01:28.01 | Thrae | cladhaire: 1.11 -- Base Innervate!!!11 |
| 01:28.18 | cladhaire | hehe i'm not as excited about that. |
| 01:28.28 | cladhaire | well Bear is good once you get the 300% armor from Dire Bear Form =) |
| 01:28.37 | Thrae | With Base Innervate, I don't see why not the 30/21 build for PvE unless your low on Priests. |
| 01:28.43 | Thrae | Right ;) |
| 01:28.45 | cladhaire | free plate == teh win |
| 01:28.53 | cladhaire | i'm more excited about base evoc and IAE for leveling my mage |
| 01:28.55 | cladhaire | who is a sad level 34 |
| 01:29.19 | cladhaire | i'm playing my hunter until 1.11 then i'll catch my mage up |
| 01:29.23 | cladhaire | 45 on the hunter |
| 01:29.29 | cladhaire | 60 priest,rogue,druid |
| 01:29.31 | Mikma | base innervate? what am i missing now? |
| 01:29.43 | cladhaire | every level 40 druid gets innervate in 1.11 =) |
| 01:29.51 | Mikma | NERF! |
| 01:29.55 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:30.06 | Thrae | Nerf Innervate or it's a nerf to get Innervate? |
| 01:30.11 | cladhaire | grinding in the hinterlands is just cheap |
| 01:30.35 | Mikma | nref durids! :D |
| 01:30.41 | Mikma | ain't that just too imba haha |
| 01:31.37 | cladhaire | innervate just means i can heal more effectively in PVP |
| 01:31.41 | cladhaire | and run flags better =0 |
| 01:31.48 | Mikma | hmm, i was also thinking about this build for pve/instance/pvp |
| 01:31.49 | Mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?zZxxMsfbdLExboMo |
| 01:32.00 | cladhaire | doesn't help me tank in AV tho.. i do that on my own =) |
| 01:32.48 | Mikma | but then again the feline swiftness... |
| 01:32.58 | Mikma | when i get to use it i'm over 30 :P |
| 01:33.03 | cladhaire | you will |
| 01:33.04 | cladhaire | trust me |
| 01:33.07 | Thrae | cladhaire: So you like Thick Hide > Feral Instinct? |
| 01:33.07 | cladhaire | its useful like whoa |
| 01:33.18 | cladhaire | I didn't go thick hide, but yes. |
| 01:33.38 | cladhaire | lemme post mine quick |
| 01:33.45 | Mikma | all i think about is stealth-runs with rogues |
| 01:33.46 | Thrae | I dunno, even in 30/21 I want to keep Feral Instinct to try my hand at tanking. |
| 01:34.20 | Thrae | Threat +9% and Stealth Level +3 both have their uses. |
| 01:34.51 | cladhaire | http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?MZVxMscRdxVxfV0o is what I have i think |
| 01:34.55 | Mikma | that's why i wan't to put it 5/5 |
| 01:35.01 | cladhaire | and its solid |
| 01:35.40 | Thrae | Mikma: I've done lots of stealth runs before, mostly SM so far, and never had a problem with 3/5 in Feral Instinct. You're most likely not going be in a full group so you're already going to have to be near the level of the enemies in the instance. |
| 01:36.01 | Thrae | Also, there ARE items which increase Stealth Level, like Nightwhatever |
| 01:36.07 | Mikma | Thrae: _very_ good point |
| 01:36.08 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 01:36.10 | cladhaire | but not needed |
| 01:36.16 | cladhaire | not all rogues have MOD |
| 01:36.19 | cladhaire | cause you dont need it |
| 01:36.27 | cladhaire | (says the rogue) |
| 01:37.03 | Thrae | cladhaire: No Brutal Impact? I'm surprised. |
| 01:37.14 | cladhaire | tend to not need it with feral charge |
| 01:37.16 | Mikma | bloody hell, how in the hell didn't i notice the other bonus in feral aggression |
| 01:37.32 | cladhaire | its pimp =) |
| 01:37.39 | cladhaire | and druids already geta bonus to threat over warriors |
| 01:38.15 | cladhaire | i heal when i can.. but i've tanked every <= UBRS instance in the game |
| 01:38.39 | Mikma | i'm not sure, but ain't ferocious bite a catskill? |
| 01:38.41 | Thrae | Is your tanking why you did 5/5 Feral Instinct? |
| 01:38.56 | ckknight | back |
| 01:38.59 | cladhaire | and stealthing |
| 01:39.00 | cladhaire | but yes. |
| 01:39.07 | Thrae | Mikma: Yes, but it's really the only good PvP skill |
| 01:39.08 | cladhaire | 15% threat is insane =) |
| 01:39.27 | Thrae | PvP finisher I mean, I rarely use Rip |
| 01:39.31 | Mikma | Thrae: rraaar! i already have wasted points on ferocity |
| 01:39.46 | cladhaire | i just use maul |
| 01:39.50 | cladhaire | over and over and over again |
| 01:39.52 | Mikma | well anyways i might redo my talenttree soon |
| 01:39.53 | cladhaire | my crits are insane =) |
| 01:39.55 | Thrae | Well we're talking PvP here, not PvE |
| 01:40.02 | cladhaire | So am I =) |
| 01:40.07 | cladhaire | I'm the crazy bear who takes on casters |
| 01:40.08 | cladhaire | and wins |
| 01:40.11 | Thrae | At your level, take Ferocity over Feral Aggression |
| 01:40.15 | Thrae | Wait until Level 40 to respec |
| 01:40.15 | cladhaire | you invest the points right, and you're amazing |
| 01:40.31 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 01:40.34 | cladhaire | i think i have ferocity |
| 01:40.49 | cladhaire | *ponder* |
| 01:41.10 | Thrae | Bear 10-20, Cat 20-40, Bear 1st, Cat 2nd 40+ |
| 01:41.15 | Mikma | Thrae: well i already have put 5/5 imp motw and 5/5 furor. now i'm stacking the ferocity |
| 01:41.37 | Thrae | cladhaire: I was wondering, Ferocity seemed better then Feral Aggression overall. 15 Maul turning into a 10 Maul isn't that bad... |
| 01:41.48 | cladhaire | Cat is really your only focus until 40ish |
| 01:41.53 | cladhaire | unless its a heavy armor mob |
| 01:42.04 | Thrae | You did Resto before Feral? Usually you do Feral first. |
| 01:42.04 | cladhaire | same as rogue leveling.. rupture on high armor, DD otherwise. |
| 01:42.06 | cladhaire | feral first |
| 01:42.16 | cladhaire | you need it at level 20 |
| 01:42.19 | Thrae | The bonuses from anything in Resto pale in comparison to Feral at lower levels. |
| 01:42.43 | Thrae | I mean, healing is easy pie compared to later instances. |
| 01:42.51 | Thrae | Easy pie squared. |
| 01:43.06 | cladhaire | http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?MZxxMscRdxVxfV0o |
| 01:43.07 | cladhaire | that's me. |
| 01:43.32 | Thrae | Mikma: Take a look at a mod called FeralSkills too, it helps me out with PvE grinding and keeping Faerie Fire on mobs. |
| 01:43.46 | cladhaire | FF doesn't activate the global cooldown =0 |
| 01:43.48 | cladhaire | neither does maul |
| 01:43.53 | cladhaire | feral charge, FF, maul one-click =0 |
| 01:44.28 | Mikma | 5/5 Ferocity, 5/5 Feral Aggression, 5/5 Imp MotW, 5/5 Furor |
| 01:44.40 | Mikma | that sound's a pretty good start for lvl29 pvp meh |
| 01:45.28 | Thrae | Mikma: 5/5 Imp MotW at Level 29 does little overall, and Furor doesn't become necessary until at least Feral Charge. |
| 01:45.46 | cladhaire | your goal is to get Feline Swiftness at level 30 |
| 01:45.55 | cladhaire | or it should be =) |
| 01:46.10 | Thrae | Mikma: I'd take a respec, go all Feral -- 5/5 Fero, 2/2 Brutal, 3/5 Instinct, 2/2 Feline Swiftness, 1/1 Feral Charge |
| 01:46.24 | cladhaire | i agree completely |
| 01:46.48 | Tain | I'd respec also. Start over as a Rogue. |
| 01:46.50 | Thrae | Brutal Instinct is your "poor man's" Nature's Swiftness until Level 60 IMHO, it's worth the 2 points out of Feral Instinct |
| 01:47.01 | Thrae | Brutal Impact I mean |
| 01:47.15 | Thrae | Feral Charge is good, but doesn't cover all scenarios and needs skill to master ;) |
| 01:47.16 | cladhaire | unless you're a tauren |
| 01:47.20 | Thrae | True |
| 01:47.21 | cladhaire | Warstomp + Regrowth == teh win |
| 01:47.24 | Mikma | nelf :P |
| 01:47.49 | Thrae | Though one could say then you have 2 poor man's Regrowth FTW |
| 01:47.58 | cladhaire | indeed =) |
| 01:48.14 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2804 10AceLibrary/AceDB.lua: AceDB - added proper profiling support. |
| 01:48.26 | Thrae | At low level PvPs you'll find yourself without help a lot because people at stupid, selfish, and largely unorganized. Even twinks, they just want their glory kills. |
| 01:48.26 | Mikma | charge, regrowth. warstomp, regrowth. |
| 01:48.40 | cladhaire | neg |
| 01:48.44 | cladhaire | never waste the rage after a charge |
| 01:48.49 | cladhaire | charge + maul, then shift out if you need to =) |
| 01:48.53 | cladhaire | rage is hard to come by sometimes |
| 01:49.10 | Mikma | the thing is, i don't think that server has much of those glorykillers yet, as i said, AQ ain't open yet |
| 01:49.56 | Thrae | You'd be surprised, Mikma. Twinkers aren't just people in blue, they're also well geared, experienced players who only care about themselves and getting that kill (usually Rogues) |
| 01:50.49 | Thrae | Doesn't twinking gear drop in places like Dire Maul? |
| 01:51.00 | Thrae | That's what PT says anyway... |
| 01:51.01 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 01:51.29 | Thrae | Level 29 Blue drops in Dire Maul WTF? I said...is this a bug with PT or is this real? My chances with low drops are, well, low. |
| 01:52.01 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2805 10AceLibrary/ (6 files): AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceDB-related unit tests |
| 01:52.45 | Thrae | Mikma: Anwyay, remember to make your Druid so he's the most FUN possible. Too much min/maxing and you could pigeon-hole him. |
| 01:53.06 | Thrae | Take Insect Swarm. It's relatively useless at Level 60, but pre-60 it's fun solo and in groups. |
| 01:53.26 | cladhaire | just dont spec moonkin anywhere except the test server =) |
| 01:53.35 | Thrae | Just don't annoy Warlocks in raids taking up that debuff slot with "OMG Insect Swarmz" |
| 01:53.55 | cladhaire | ZOMG moonfirez is teh dot. |
| 01:54.17 | Thrae | In 1.11 do we have Moonfire stacking? |
| 01:54.22 | ckknight | moonspam ftw |
| 01:54.31 | Thrae | Or was that some rumor? |
| 01:54.32 | ckknight | lolzors, nub. |
| 01:55.09 | Thrae | No no, I mean stacking like Sunder Armour, not the current stacking. |
| 01:55.29 | Mikma | well i did have megafun in deadmines : |
| 01:55.32 | Mikma | :D |
| 01:55.35 | Thrae | IE, it always takes up 1 debuff slot. |
| 01:55.43 | cladhaire | doubtful |
| 01:55.49 | cladhaire | as long as fireball's dot doesn't stack |
| 01:55.55 | Mikma | i tanked, stealthed, backstabbed, healed! |
| 01:56.02 | Thrae | Well Fireball wasn't built around the DoT |
| 01:56.17 | Mikma | i stole aggros from rogues with catform. that was amazing :D |
| 01:56.56 | Thrae | Mikma: One thing I like about FeralSkills mod in groups is that it spams Cower when ToT = Me and I am Shred'ing ;) |
| 01:57.04 | Thrae | Although a macro to that effect is easy |
| 01:57.22 | Mikma | US Forums: Flagrunning in Warsong Gultch: A Druid's Guide .. ;) |
| 01:57.45 | Thrae | FeralSkills is basically all of what we want to put into macros, but can't due to lack of space. Cower + Faerie Fire + Tiger's Fury (for extra energy) + Shred/Claw |
| 01:58.07 | Mikma | well i'll look at it right now |
| 01:58.30 | Thrae | I've done so much low-level WSG it's coming out my ears. |
| 01:58.57 | Mikma | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-druid&t=75723&p=1&tmp=1#post75723 |
| 01:59.01 | Mikma | there's some nice macros |
| 01:59.36 | cladhaire | i'm a suicidal flagrunner |
| 01:59.40 | cladhaire | i never wait for backup =) |
| 01:59.41 | Thrae | 20-29 WSG you want Feline Swiftness at least. Dodge + Speed OMG |
| 01:59.52 | Thrae | Bah, my PUGs are usually idiots anyway |
| 02:00.03 | cladhaire | and remember that priests can dispel ghost wolf form.. but not cat form =) |
| 02:00.08 | Mikma | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-druid&t=805660&p=1&tmp=1#post805660 :D |
| 02:00.17 | Mikma | wtf? dispel ghost wolf hahah |
| 02:00.19 | Thrae | And remember Druids can Hibernate both ;) |
| 02:00.22 | Mikma | that i didn't know |
| 02:00.54 | Thrae | Mikma: Look closer, I actually wrote a good deal of those macros...unless they revamped the thread again |
| 02:01.02 | cladhaire | nature's swiftness/entangling roots is fun =) |
| 02:01.11 | Thrae | Until about 1.9 I was very active in that forum |
| 02:01.16 | Mikma | ASHNOD! is it you?!? |
| 02:01.52 | Thrae | No, I'm Thrae there too, I think I had pages 5-9 or whatever |
| 02:02.08 | Thrae | But I think they revamped the thread since then due to length bug |
| 02:03.59 | Thrae | Mikma: Lemme give you the latest version of my personal functions for macros... |
| 02:04.36 | Mikma | oh goodie, i'll search up that addon too |
| 02:05.20 | Thrae | Mikma: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~generalmx/ThraeFuncs6_15_06.zip |
| 02:05.41 | Thrae | Mikma: http://www.matts-hosting.com/~generalmx/ThraeFuncs_6_15_06.zip |
| 02:05.59 | Mikma | thank you, i'll check them right now |
| 02:06.15 | Thrae | Those are functions either too big to fit in macros, or just put there so people know how to make a macro out of them. |
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| 02:08.57 | Kyahx | liar |
| 02:09.39 | Mikma | Rat Nova <3 |
| 02:09.48 | clad|sleep | rat nova is the best =) |
| 02:09.50 | clad|sleep | night all |
| 02:10.01 | Mikma | nightnigh |
| 02:10.03 | Kyahx | night clad |
| 02:10.21 | Kaelten | night clad |
| 02:11.29 | Mikma | gosh, there's alot of functions :D |
| 02:15.38 | Mikma | hmm, i'll have a nap, THEN FIRE ZE MISSILES! |
| 02:15.38 | Thrae | Phargh! What mod is causing me to auto-skip gossip... |
| 02:15.44 | Mikma | depends on the modlist |
| 02:15.59 | Thrae | I have a bazillion of them. |
| 02:16.36 | Mikma | ok, bbl, gotta take a nice 3h beautysleep :) |
| 02:18.49 | Kyahx | Denial? |
| 02:19.21 | Thrae | I just disabled them all with a Find/Replace in Addons.txt after backing it up. Eh. |
| 02:29.31 | Kyahx | boo, use LoadIT :P |
| 02:36.10 | CIA-12 | 03hk2717 * r2806 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: BigWigs: Well...Re-added Simplified Chinese localization to C'Thun module. |
| 02:43.31 | Tekcub | erf |
| 02:43.59 | Tekcub | well that was a waste of a BWL |
| 02:44.04 | Tekcub | but Sonar works :) |
| 02:44.58 | ckknight | what's it do? |
| 02:45.11 | Tekcub | PING! You're to close to someone PING! |
| 02:45.13 | Tekcub | PING! |
| 02:45.15 | Tekcub | PING! |
| 02:45.25 | Tekcub | it's like 10 lines of code :) |
| 02:46.43 | Kyahx | Bigwings needs to play FF Victory Theme when a boss is defeated IMO |
| 02:46.56 | Kyahx | :P |
| 02:47.22 | Tekcub | http://www.furaffinity.net/avatars/azurusnova.gif |
| 02:47.26 | Tekcub | !! funny |
| 02:47.30 | Tekcub | ^^ rather |
| 02:55.56 | Tekcub | Kya... I actually like that idea |
| 02:56.02 | Tekcub | I think I'll slip it in :) |
| 02:56.10 | Tekcub | with an option to disable, of course |
| 02:57.46 | Kyahx | Tek, GratuityLib is yours right? |
| 02:58.02 | Tekcub | yes and if you say what I think you're gonna say I'll twap you |
| 02:58.45 | Kyahx | GratuityLib.lua:319: Usage: SetUnitBuff("unit", index [,raidFilter]) |
| 02:58.46 | Kyahx | :P |
| 02:58.55 | Tekcub | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.23 | Tekcub | it's not gratuity |
| 02:59.34 | Tekcub | I think it's SEAura but havn't verrified that |
| 02:59.54 | Kyahx | hehe |
| 03:00.02 | Kyahx | its not affecting anything playability wise |
| 03:00.07 | Kyahx | im getting it when I zone |
| 03:00.36 | Gngsk | ya, that and the unit player does not exist |
| 03:01.03 | Tekcub | yes, there seems to be some instance where a raid unit (maybe the player?) doesn't exist after PEW |
| 03:01.28 | Kyahx | PEW? |
| 03:01.34 | Gngsk | player enter world |
| 03:01.38 | Kyahx | PlayerEnteringWorld |
| 03:01.39 | Kyahx | ah |
| 03:01.44 | Kyahx | I realized it as I asked |
| 03:01.46 | Tekcub | too much to type :P |
| 03:02.04 | Tekcub | and PEW PEW PEW |
| 03:02.14 | Kyahx | I have a PEW PEW PEW macro :P |
| 03:02.30 | Kyahx | pops power infusion and either trinket if I have it up :P |
| 03:02.41 | Tekcub | it must be player, that's the only one not tested against PlayerExists |
| 03:02.47 | Tekcub | *UnitExists |
| 03:03.44 | CIA-12 | 03tekkub 07tekkub * r2807 10SpecialEventsEmbed/Aura/SEEmbedAura.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed - Maybe this will get rid of that Gratuity error during zone |
| 03:05.14 | ckknight | pew pew pew lazers |
| 03:05.26 | Kyahx | ~c'thun |
| 03:05.29 | purl | *** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - Pleasure! *** |
| 03:05.38 | CIA-12 | 03tekkub * r2808 10Sonar/ (. Core.lua Sonar.toc beep.mp3): |
| 03:05.38 | CIA-12 | Sonar - Initial Submission |
| 03:05.38 | CIA-12 | - Simple mod, pings if there is a party/raid unit within 10 yards of you, useful for those "spread out" style bosses. |
| 03:05.38 | CIA-12 | - use "/sonar standby" to toggle the mod on and off, it's always off by default |
| 03:05.51 | ckknight | Tekcub, you _really_ need to wrap the gratuity methods in pcall |
| 03:06.32 | ckknight | and then raise the error in the correct place |
| 03:07.57 | Kyahx | god dammit, I keep getting d/c'd at login |
| 03:08.04 | CIA-12 | 03tekkub * r2809 10Sonar/ (. Sonar.toc): Sonar - Setting SVN:Externals |
| 03:08.15 | Tekcub | pcall? |
| 03:10.22 | ckknight | protected call |
| 03:10.27 | ckknight | it catches errors |
| 03:10.34 | ckknight | pcall(func, ...) |
| 03:10.44 | ckknight | will either return false, ... |
| 03:11.23 | Tekcub | okey but does it tell me who called the library in the first place? |
| 03:11.29 | ckknight | or true, "message" |
| 03:12.46 | Mikma | bah, couldn't sleep. |
| 03:12.56 | Tekcub | clowns? |
| 03:13.10 | Kyahx | evil pandabears |
| 03:13.21 | Tekcub | mmmm... panda.... |
| 03:13.46 | Tekcub | hell is there a way to dump a stack trace out in lua, that'd be handy in lots of places |
| 03:13.51 | Tekcub | ESPECIALLY libs |
| 03:14.12 | ckknight | Tekcub, you just do if errored then error(msg, 2) |
| 03:14.13 | ckknight | end |
| 03:14.15 | ckknight | tada. |
| 03:14.22 | Tekcub | 2? |
| 03:14.51 | Tekcub | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_debugstack |
| 03:16.11 | ckknight | yes. |
| 03:16.11 | ckknight | debugstack() |
| 03:16.11 | ckknight | I do it |
| 03:16.11 | ckknight | you do realize I've written an assert _for_ libs? |
| 03:16.11 | ckknight | that raises it above the lib |
| 03:16.25 | Tekcub | :P |
| 03:16.50 | Tekcub | where? |
| 03:18.25 | Tekcub | okey found it |
| 03:18.29 | Tekcub | I'll add dat tamara |
| 03:18.35 | Tekcub | but now sleepzzzz |
| 03:19.37 | Gngsk | good night |
| 03:19.41 | Kyahx | night Tek |
| 03:40.40 | Mikma | goddamn this auctioneer takes ages to scan |
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| 03:45.40 | Kyahx | I hate BWL |
| 03:45.56 | Kyahx | I get disconnected when zoneing in, constantly lag, blag |
| 03:46.05 | Kyahx | =( |
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| 04:45.55 | kergoth | whats your guys ram increase rate during combat with a single mob? |
| 04:46.01 | kergoth | mine just broke 105 K/s during that one |
| 04:48.22 | Mikma | ooh, owned |
| 04:54.04 | Thrae | http://ace.pastebin.com/712238 |
| 04:54.14 | Thrae | What weird oddities cause this function to fire once and only once? |
| 04:56.07 | Kyahx | CIA-12 dosent track branch updates? |
| 04:57.45 | Gngsk | think i've seen branch updates |
| 04:58.02 | Gngsk | clad's clique comes to mind first |
| 05:00.38 | kergoth | it does, yes |
| 05:00.43 | kergoth | but cia has had issues lately, who knows |
| 05:04.09 | Mikma | Thrae: line 24, is it supposed to be that way? not something like "if swipe and foo >= 30 then"? |
| 05:04.39 | Mikma | local foo = UnitMana("player") |
| 05:06.53 | Mikma | CastSpellByName("Faerie Fire (Feral)()" ? |
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| 05:34.09 | CIA-12 | 03kyahx * r2811 10SmartRes/ (SmartRes.lua SmartResLocals.lua): |
| 05:34.10 | CIA-12 | SmartRes: Minor Update |
| 05:34.10 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.10 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:44.43 | Kyahx | ~yawn |
| 05:44.50 | purl | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
| 05:45.16 | Kyahx | time for bed |
| 05:45.36 | [Wobin] | oh |
| 05:45.37 | [Wobin] | wait |
| 05:45.40 | [Wobin] | kyahx |
| 05:45.44 | Kyahx | hmm? |
| 05:45.48 | [Wobin] | What's the latest version of AceHeal? |
| 05:45.55 | [Wobin] | (and where on the SVN?) |
| 05:45.56 | Kyahx | R12kx02 |
| 05:46.05 | [Wobin] | trunk or branch? |
| 05:46.10 | Kyahx | Branch\AceHeal\Kyahx\AceHeal |
| 05:46.17 | [Wobin] | cool =) |
| 05:46.23 | Kyahx | I probley broke stuff |
| 05:46.28 | Kyahx | :P |
| 05:46.54 | Kyahx | I moved the mana-conserve check to the OnClick function. So now it will fire any-time you use aceheal to click. |
| 05:47.14 | Kyahx | it *seems* to work decent enough |
| 05:47.32 | [Wobin] | So I just hammerclick heal |
| 05:47.45 | [Wobin] | and it will cancel a current heal if there's no need? |
| 05:48.01 | Kyahx | it will cancell the current heal and start the one you just tried to initate... |
| 05:48.02 | Kyahx | hmmm |
| 05:48.23 | [Wobin] | No matter the target's health? |
| 05:48.23 | Kyahx | I wanted to eliminate "double clicking", but maybe thats not the smartest way |
| 05:48.41 | Kyahx | well, it checks the health obviously, its the same ManaConserve function that was there before |
| 05:48.47 | [Wobin] | hm We'd need an 'override overheal' key |
| 05:48.52 | Codayus | Kyahx: It seemed to me the right way to do it would be to start a new heal only if the new heal would have a different target than the cancelled heal. |
| 05:49.28 | Kyahx | good point |
| 05:49.51 | Kyahx | then you can hammer one unit to get mana conserve, or heal normal, and it will just abandon useless heals on your last target |
| 05:49.56 | Codayus | Otherwise you get weird loops sometimes, where it cancels a heal because they don't need it, then restarts it because AceHeal will heal people on full. |
| 05:50.25 | [Wobin] | hm |
| 05:50.56 | [Wobin] | Could you put in a 'I want to actuall cast the most 'efficient' spell, but X ranks higher' optionality? |
| 05:51.08 | [Wobin] | (ie emergency overheal) |
| 05:51.29 | Kyahx | I don't get what your asking |
| 05:52.00 | Codayus | Kyahx: I think he wants the ability to bind a heal which won't get ranked down. Can't you just specify the rank in the binding? |
| 05:52.01 | Kyahx | like if their HP is below a certain thershold, try to overheal? |
| 05:52.09 | Kyahx | Sure, just bind a spell |
| 05:52.09 | [Wobin] | probably hm |
| 05:52.19 | Kyahx | Spell (Rank X) |
| 05:52.32 | [Wobin] | actually, no, what I'd like is to ignore casting certain spells |
| 05:52.41 | Codayus | The ability of AceHeal to do it automagically is limited by the fact that efficiency is overwhelmingly dominated by your +heal gear, and AceHeal doesn't know how to scan for it. |
| 05:52.45 | [Wobin] | ie, it's not much point in me casting a lesser heal rank 1 |
| 05:53.08 | Kyahx | Im thinking about takeing BonusScanner, just converting it to a lib and useing that. |
| 05:53.08 | Codayus | Ah. |
| 05:53.15 | Codayus | If I was A) A good coder, and B) Had more time, I'd think about making an embeddable +heal scanning library... |
| 05:53.17 | [Wobin] | even though I don't have the mana for a larger heal, I'd like it just to do nothing |
| 05:53.31 | Codayus | I think Squishy has some good code you could ninja too for that. |
| 05:53.31 | Kyahx | have you looked at BonusScanner? |
| 05:54.00 | Kyahx | Wobin: you want it to ignore your lower ranks basically |
| 05:54.00 | Codayus | Not in any detail. I used to use it though. |
| 05:54.13 | [Wobin] | Kyahx: yeah =) |
| 05:54.47 | Codayus | Some sort of cutoff then? |
| 05:54.52 | Kyahx | We'll see. Im still trying to figure out how AceHeal even works. |
| 05:55.00 | Codayus | "Don't cast heals which will hit for less than X hp." |
| 05:55.07 | Codayus | Kyahx: Good luck with that. |
| 05:55.15 | Codayus | Some of the code is pretty confusing. |
| 05:55.20 | Kyahx | Heh, I know |
| 05:55.46 | Kyahx | Im tempted to try to tackle a re-write. But im not that good of a coder, and I dont fully understand how it works in the first place |
| 05:55.59 | Kyahx | Im just doing maintainace / adding unit frame support :P |
| 05:57.09 | Codayus | Kyahx: Okay, concern with moving the mana conserve function - it breaks it if you call AceHeal from macros or other addons, usually by calling AceHeal:Heal() or similar |
| 05:57.28 | Kyahx | good point |
| 05:59.23 | Kyahx | it was originally in the AceHeal:Heal function correct? |
| 05:59.36 | Codayus | No... |
| 05:59.41 | Codayus | It was...uh... |
| 05:59.54 | Codayus | In the CastHeal() function. |
| 06:00.01 | Kyahx | and Panic for some reason |
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| 06:02.07 | Kyahx | it sounds like a project for tomarrow /yawn |
| 06:02.11 | Codayus | :-) |
| 06:02.12 | Gngsk | :D |
| 06:02.19 | Codayus | Anyhow, thanks for taking up AceHeal. |
| 06:02.24 | [Wobin] | sleep well =) |
| 06:02.28 | Kyahx | it looks like the ManaConserve function already does target checking BTW |
| 06:02.29 | [Wobin] | Aye, we appreciate it =) |
| 06:02.31 | Gngsk | sends too |
| 06:02.35 | Codayus | Kyahx: Yes. |
| 06:02.39 | Codayus | I wrote it. :-) |
| 06:02.47 | Codayus | But I wasn't sure how much you'd changed it. |
| 06:02.51 | Kyahx | ah, well then I'll fix the call in the OnClick |
| 06:03.18 | Kyahx | I had just |
| 06:03.20 | Codayus | (Or if Devla had changed it. My local copy of AceHeal diverged quite a bit from his (her?) branch.) |
| 06:03.24 | Kyahx | self:ManaConserve(unit) |
| 06:03.26 | Kyahx | instead of |
| 06:03.28 | Kyahx | if self:ManaConserve(unit) then return end |
| 06:04.43 | CIA-12 | 03kyahx 07Kyahx * r2812 10AceHeal/AceHeal/AceHeal.lua: |
| 06:04.43 | CIA-12 | AceHeal:R12kx02 Ninja Update |
| 06:04.43 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.52 | Kyahx | a sneaky ninja update, no one will ever know! |
| 06:05.39 | [Wobin] | Nobody but the CIA! |
| 06:08.51 | kergoth | an item that mendy says drops in mara just dropped for me grinding on level 37 elementals in the badlands :P |
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| 06:24.05 | MoonWolf | morning. |
| 06:36.40 | kergoth | MoonWolf, an item mendy said drops in mara just dropped grinding in the badlands. is that expected? i mean, when it shows that, is it definitive, or just high probability? |
| 06:37.06 | MoonWolf | its most likely a mistake |
| 06:37.17 | MoonWolf | we get the drop information out of item sites |
| 06:38.01 | MoonWolf | either give tekk the item id or go in there and fix it yourself. |
| 06:38.42 | MoonWolf | All information in PT is only as good as the source, and the source is not blizzard so its never 100% correct. |
| 06:39.12 | kergoth | k |
| 06:41.10 | [Wobin] | hm http://www.thottbot.com/?i=10465 |
| 06:41.14 | [Wobin] | is a nice drop |
| 06:41.30 | [Wobin] | kergoth: Mug 'o' Hurt? |
| 06:41.47 | MoonWolf | HUNTAR WAEPONN |
| 06:41.58 | kergoth | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=4024 is the one that just dropped |
| 06:42.00 | [Wobin] | Goddamnt itemdblag |
| 06:42.02 | kergoth | gave it to a guildie |
| 06:42.24 | [Wobin] | ragent dawn is starting to piss mne off |
| 06:42.27 | [Wobin] | rararr |
| 06:42.34 | MoonWolf | looks like a world drop |
| 06:42.39 | kergoth | indeed |
| 06:42.54 | MoonWolf | no idea what its doing in the maraudon table |
| 06:43.08 | kergoth | sheesh, badlands is herb central |
| 06:43.12 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 06:43.25 | MoonWolf | fireblood is everywhere there |
| 06:43.31 | kergoth | yup |
| 06:43.33 | MoonWolf | bloom* |
| 06:46.34 | MoonWolf | Mulder: I'm telling you, the source-code is out there, on a recycled-PC - it was responsible for these... COM objects. |
| 06:46.34 | MoonWolf | Scully: There is no such thing as source-code. Look at the evidence. All we've found are these COM objects. All our investigations turn up nothing but COM objects. Ever heard of Occam's Razor? Use the simplest explanation that fits the facts. To explain the evidence, there is absolutely no reason to invent fictitious PC's which hold imaginary text files to create these COM objects. Make the theory fit the facts, not the other way aroun |
| 06:46.34 | MoonWolf | d. |
| 06:46.35 | MoonWolf | Mulder: You just don't believe... in CVS |
| 06:46.39 | MoonWolf | Scully: there you go again, inventing even more crazy theories to bolster your pipe dream of finding not just source code, but entire repositories of it. |
| 06:46.42 | MoonWolf | brilliant. |
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| 07:00.29 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 07:00.54 | Gngsk | http://youtube.com/watch?v=T2Rvxdvq8zY |
| 07:01.00 | Gngsk | pwnage |
| 07:01.11 | Codayus | Anyone around here raid a lot (hopefully as a pally, or failing that, as alliance) that I can ask a couple questions of? :-) |
| 07:01.25 | Gngsk | I raid alliance, not as a paladin though |
| 07:02.09 | Codayus | Gngsk: Hmm, alright. How does your guild view the role of pallies in raids? |
| 07:02.33 | Gngsk | buffs, spot heals, fill in dps/tank |
| 07:03.13 | Codayus | When your fighting, say, a lava pack - do pallies mostly cleanse, heal, dps, tank? |
| 07:03.55 | Gngsk | we haven't cleared MC as a guild in a long time, but when we did pallies healed first in that situation |
| 07:03.59 | Codayus | Better yet, if your progressed beyond MC, what did your pallies do back when you were noobs who had only downed Rag a few times? |
| 07:04.14 | Codayus | Hmm, thanks. |
| 07:04.17 | Gngsk | heal only |
| 07:04.17 | Gngsk | well |
| 07:04.25 | Gngsk | we had one pally who had really good +def gear |
| 07:04.29 | Gngsk | and he off tanked a lot |
| 07:04.52 | Gngsk | he did a really good job too, so it's possible for pallies to fulfill certain roles if they're well geared for it |
| 07:05.02 | Gngsk | but generally pallies are best serving the raid when they heal |
| 07:05.15 | Codayus | Thanks. |
| 07:05.38 | Codayus | We're pretty new, and kinda having erm...issues between the priest and pallies as to the proper role of pallies in raids. |
| 07:05.52 | Gngsk | are you playing a priest? |
| 07:05.56 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 07:06.45 | Gngsk | cool |
| 07:06.51 | Gngsk | you want them to heal then? |
| 07:06.54 | Codayus | Priest class leader, actually. But like I said, we're all nubs, so I'm not really sure how to work out if priests are doing their jobs, or pallies are doing their jobs... |
| 07:07.09 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 07:07.18 | Codayus | Well, it'd be nice. :-) |
| 07:07.25 | Gngsk | well, pallies are hybrid, so like I said they can fulfill different roles very well |
| 07:07.36 | Gngsk | you both share the same primary role, healing |
| 07:07.42 | Gngsk | just in different capacities |
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| 07:08.28 | Codayus | Hmm. |
| 07:08.29 | Gngsk | by that I mean, you can both provide dps and healing to the raid |
| 07:08.33 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 07:08.40 | Gngsk | sure, priests are best suited for providing healing |
| 07:08.44 | Gngsk | same goes for paladins in truth |
| 07:08.56 | Gngsk | if both classes aren't on the same page with that you might have issues |
| 07:09.12 | Codayus | I feel a bit bad trying to force all priests to spec holy/disc, when the pallies are running around with halberds of smiting and tank/DPS gear. |
| 07:09.29 | Gngsk | I see |
| 07:09.35 | Gngsk | so you have priests who want to dps too? |
| 07:09.45 | Codayus | A couple. |
| 07:10.01 | Gngsk | well, if I were you and just starting out |
| 07:10.34 | Gngsk | I would try to convince them to heal during 40 man raid and give them the option to dps/tank(pallies) during 20 man raids |
| 07:11.37 | Gngsk | but in truth a priest is more valuable to the 40 man raid casting flash heal on a warrior than mind blast on a mob |
| 07:11.52 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 07:11.56 | Gngsk | and the same for pallies casting flash of light on a rogue than a judgement on a mob |
| 07:13.05 | Gngsk | I mean, there's certain people in our guild who wouldn't choose to heal if given the choice, but raiding isn't a democracy in difficult encounters |
| 07:13.14 | Gngsk | so you'd hope that they're smart enough to realize that |
| 07:13.22 | Gngsk | and well, if they aren't, you might try to find someone else who is... |
| 07:13.27 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 07:13.31 | Codayus | *sigh* |
| 07:14.08 | Codayus | The issue here is that the palladin class leader is probably the worst offender of the "zomg cleansing is boring, I'm going to hit trash mobs with my halbers of smiting" school. |
| 07:14.09 | Gngsk | it helps once you get a bit more geared, have more options and can let people pursue their true play styles on 'off nights' in 20 mans etc |
| 07:14.19 | Codayus | (Note: He said that. And did it too...) |
| 07:14.33 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 07:14.45 | Gngsk | ahh, I see |
| 07:14.49 | [Ammo] | paladins are the most efficient healers in a raid |
| 07:15.03 | Gngsk | true |
| 07:15.04 | [Ammo] | they have the most manaefficient heal, and if decked out in manaregen and +healing they own |
| 07:15.08 | Gngsk | that doesn't mean they're the most effective |
| 07:15.23 | [Ammo] | well they can keep a raid going a long time |
| 07:15.30 | Gngsk | yah, that's their deal |
| 07:15.30 | [Ammo] | priests are the 'OH SHIT' healers with shield |
| 07:15.38 | [Ammo] | paladins keep a steady flow of healing up |
| 07:15.48 | [Ammo] | if they're spec'd and geared properly |
| 07:15.48 | Gngsk | yah, priests are the best 'reactive' healers |
| 07:15.50 | [Ammo] | and willing to do so |
| 07:15.57 | [Ammo] | if they don't want to do it, recruit others |
| 07:16.05 | Gngsk | yea, we've two paladins who do nothing but spam heals |
| 07:16.11 | [Ammo] | we have several paladins in cloth running around |
| 07:16.13 | Gngsk | and never run out of mana |
| 07:16.16 | [Ammo] | and they do an amazing job |
| 07:16.17 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 07:16.32 | Gngsk | kinda tough to find people who find that 'fun' though :\ |
| 07:16.38 | [Ammo] | anyone here test the new Twins module for bigwigs btw? |
| 07:16.42 | [Ammo] | with the syncing in it |
| 07:16.46 | Gngsk | no, I haven't |
| 07:16.52 | [Ammo] | I kinda got no enrage bar :) |
| 07:16.58 | [Ammo] | but teleport sync'd perfectly |
| 07:16.58 | Gngsk | but I have really wanted that |
| 07:17.01 | Gngsk | :D |
| 07:17.04 | Gngsk | that's all I care about |
| 07:17.15 | Gngsk | we kill 'em easy before 15m I could care less about enrage |
| 07:17.17 | [Ammo] | well we had 3 seconds to spare last night |
| 07:17.26 | Gngsk | but I get annoyed when there's no timex teleport |
| 07:17.29 | Gngsk | heh! |
| 07:17.36 | Gngsk | our 2nd kill was 10s to spare |
| 07:17.49 | [Ammo] | but we killed Skeram, bugfam, Sartura, Fankriss, huhuran, emps in 3 hours 30 mins |
| 07:17.55 | [Ammo] | best run we had so fatr |
| 07:18.00 | Gngsk | nice |
| 07:18.05 | Gngsk | working on c'thun then? |
| 07:18.14 | [Ammo] | yeah we had first night on him last week |
| 07:18.18 | Gngsk | wow |
| 07:18.20 | [Ammo] | hence my work on the cthun module :) |
| 07:18.27 | Gngsk | our guilds are about the exact same progression :) |
| 07:18.38 | [Ammo] | phase1 should be good now |
| 07:18.40 | [Ammo] | in the module |
| 07:18.44 | Gngsk | good |
| 07:18.49 | Gngsk | I'm trying to push ace mods on my guild |
| 07:18.51 | [Ammo] | but since we've only had him to 49% it hard |
| 07:18.53 | Gngsk | and bigwigs specificly |
| 07:18.55 | [Ammo] | to test for me |
| 07:19.09 | [Ammo] | but sunday I meet the eye again |
| 07:19.14 | Gngsk | ditto. |
| 07:19.35 | Gngsk | what class do you play? |
| 07:19.56 | MoonWolf | he is a lock |
| 07:20.00 | Gngsk | ahh, cool |
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| 07:21.27 | [Ammo] | warlock yeah |
| 07:40.40 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r2813 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: |
| 07:40.40 | CIA-12 | Bigwigs: |
| 07:40.41 | CIA-12 | * Applied fixes by Kebinusan, tried to keep the Chinese translation in tact this time, sorry about that :) |
| 07:44.51 | MoonWolf | how needs chinese anyway! |
| 07:44.55 | MoonWolf | wobin can read english fine. |
| 07:45.01 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 07:45.08 | [Wobin] | shenme? |
| 07:45.13 | [Ammo] | well I think I accidently destroyed it last time :) |
| 07:45.39 | MoonWolf | ni hao ? |
| 07:48.41 | [Wobin] | hao bu hao? |
| 07:53.02 | MoonWolf | sure |
| 07:53.26 | MoonWolf | I don' t even know what ni hao means. |
| 07:53.40 | MoonWolf | we just keep pestering gold miners with that. |
| 07:54.24 | [Wobin] | Hello =P |
| 07:54.42 | [Wobin] | or more literally You good |
| 07:55.16 | MoonWolf | k |
| 07:55.52 | MoonWolf | you good as in "Everything okay" or as in a compliment ? |
| 07:56.51 | Industrial | lol =P |
| 07:56.53 | Industrial | morning |
| 07:56.56 | Industrial | LAST DAY WOO |
| 07:57.00 | Industrial | <-- extatic |
| 07:57.03 | MoonWolf | thats what you said last week |
| 07:57.13 | sedatedChipmunk | ^---unable to spell |
| 07:57.14 | Industrial | fo sho now |
| 07:57.16 | MoonWolf | lrn2match |
| 07:57.27 | MoonWolf | math* |
| 07:57.35 | Industrial | lern2spell |
| 07:57.38 | Industrial | :> |
| 07:57.54 | sedatedChipmunk | says the guy who spells 'ecstatic' with an 'x' |
| 07:57.55 | Industrial | Now I'm finally gunna have time to play wow AND go to gym 4 times a week |
| 07:58.11 | MoonWolf | :O |
| 07:58.21 | MoonWolf | You, are a sick person. |
| 07:58.29 | Industrial | why? :) |
| 07:58.38 | Industrial | oh, AND be on the beach |
| 07:58.40 | Industrial | nn sedatedChipmunk |
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| 07:58.53 | sedatedChipmunk | sorry, my bad-spelling sense was tingling |
| 07:58.57 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 07:58.57 | sedatedChipmunk | and I just had to address it |
| 07:59.00 | Industrial | wobblewobble |
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| 08:06.31 | Industrial | forum-read-time |
| 08:16.33 | Wobin | You good as in 'everything okay' =) |
| 08:16.47 | Wobin | It's still more of a greeting though |
| 08:17.28 | Wobin | hao bu hao means 'well or not well', or 'how are you' |
| 08:17.47 | MoonWolf | k' |
| 08:18.49 | MoonWolf | i think instead of our weekly x-raods 3 man raid |
| 08:18.58 | MoonWolf | we should go gank a few farmers this weekend. |
| 08:19.04 | Wobin | Do it in felwood |
| 08:19.11 | Wobin | I'd like to go farm for some essence of water |
| 08:19.21 | Wobin | but the farming there is rife |
| 08:19.33 | Wobin | even if you're not on the same server, it'll be the thought that counts =) |
| 08:19.38 | MoonWolf | k |
| 08:20.23 | MoonWolf | between a 53 warrior a lvl 6o rogue and a lvl 50 hunter most players dont live |
| 08:21.08 | MoonWolf | actually me (hunter) and the warrior are enough to take out most 60 players. |
| 08:21.19 | MoonWolf | 75% of the players suck anyway |
| 08:24.29 | Industrial | ~emulate Infdustrial |
| 08:24.36 | Industrial | ~emulate Industrial |
| 08:24.37 | purl | Ogm teh tpyoas! Mroe ceffein pls! |
| 08:25.29 | Industrial | *bullit* |
| 08:25.44 | MoonWolf | Taurine too. |
| 08:25.56 | Industrial | yes |
| 08:25.56 | Industrial | :D |
| 08:45.43 | snurre | http://sickflash.com/bunny_suicides.html |
| 08:45.44 | snurre | awesome |
| 08:46.11 | MoonWolf | litttle old |
| 08:46.14 | MoonWolf | but yeah, awesome. |
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| 09:02.57 | Industrial | aw thats cute |
| 09:03.03 | Industrial | *bookmark* |
| 09:03.16 | Industrial | gotta show that to my gothic friend :) |
| 09:03.19 | Industrial | (lady) |
| 09:03.48 | Mikma | YAY! |
| 09:04.00 | MoonWolf | is she hot and single ? |
| 09:04.02 | Mikma | (just had a nice day) |
| 09:04.19 | Industrial | MoonWolf: hot yes YES YES! single no :( |
| 09:04.30 | MoonWolf | congrats mikma, now grab a beer and chill out |
| 09:04.32 | MoonWolf | Industrial, damnit. |
| 09:04.39 | Industrial | We've been friend for YEARS now tho, like 10 years |
| 09:04.48 | Industrial | before the whole goth thingy :P |
| 09:05.10 | Mikma | MoonWolf: dude, that's a freaking good idea! |
| 09:05.24 | Mikma | or maybe i should sleep/sheep, been up almost 24h now meh |
| 09:05.27 | MoonWolf | more one stands with shallow people from the local bar it is then! |
| 09:05.29 | Industrial | Mikma: yay! im having a good last day wt work :P |
| 09:05.40 | Mikma | or should i code my addon and not have a nice day anymore |
| 09:05.52 | Industrial | How is that not nice? |
| 09:05.57 | Industrial | have a beer AND code |
| 09:05.58 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:06.08 | Mikma | because i can't code the good stuff :D |
| 09:06.38 | Mikma | i have a issue, so give me a tissue |
| 09:10.04 | Industrial | I can't code the good stuff either - from out of nowhere. I have a great imagination of how I'd like to see stuff, but most of the time I can't make it. That doesnt matter but I'm happy with what I've made. Also its a process. You learn more while you are doing it. Saying you can't do it upfront means you won't be learning because you aren't DOING |
| 09:10.30 | Industrial | s/but/cause/ |
| 09:10.39 | Industrial | ... |
| 09:10.50 | Industrial | imho |
| 09:12.27 | FryGuy | damnit |
| 09:12.32 | FryGuy | i can't get to sleep :( |
| 09:13.16 | Industrial | Mikma: so how are you and yor gf leveling? |
| 09:13.23 | Industrial | I'm 11 now - ill be leveling all weekend |
| 09:15.02 | Mikma | Industrial: "Daria" is lvl24 and i'm lvl22 |
| 09:15.35 | Mikma | Industrial: i don't think we will be "leveling" much at the weekend, mainly focusing on getting better shit from instances |
| 09:16.42 | Industrial | k |
| 09:17.08 | Industrial | thats gud :P try SFK/Dm/WC ? |
| 09:17.24 | Mikma | Industrial: i got the kickass lowlevel mace from smith, but i sold it to vendor, lame i know :( |
| 09:17.39 | Industrial | the face crusher thing? |
| 09:17.42 | Industrial | or w/e |
| 09:18.05 | Mikma | wow-loot.com |
| 09:20.05 | Industrial | smites mighty hammer? |
| 09:20.59 | Mikma | yeah if it's the 2hander |
| 09:21.07 | Industrial | zomg why'd you sell it? |
| 09:21.12 | [Ammo] | you can buy it back |
| 09:21.16 | Industrial | yes |
| 09:21.18 | Industrial | buy it back |
| 09:21.22 | Mikma | [Ammo]: sold too much crap after it |
| 09:21.26 | Industrial | ack |
| 09:21.33 | Mikma | i had inv full of DM crap and sold everything... |
| 09:21.50 | Mikma | the damn Bagnon doesn't color the items bright enough :P (rare items) |
| 09:22.47 | MoonWolf | btw, indu, got any wuppies ? |
| 09:25.20 | Mikma | OH that BASTARD cat!! the stink is horrible |
| 09:26.24 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 09:26.31 | MoonWolf | cat poop/fart ? |
| 09:27.02 | Mikma | poop in the litterbox and didn't cover. and i'm not going to do it for it |
| 09:27.32 | MoonWolf | our cats use the huge feild outside of our house |
| 09:27.41 | MoonWolf | worse case, a horse steps in it. |
| 09:27.53 | Mikma | on cat or poop? ;) |
| 09:28.14 | MoonWolf | poop |
| 09:28.29 | Mikma | oh man i'm tired, sorry :P |
| 09:28.33 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 09:28.48 | Mikma | but, i think i finally understood the SavePosition and RestorePosition |
| 09:29.10 | Mikma | i noticed that MonkeyQuest also has a nice simple save/restore and i think i will be copying it |
| 09:29.37 | Mikma | the only bad thing about monkeyquests position is it won't look scale at all |
| 09:29.51 | Mikma | so if you change the scale the window will be misplaced |
| 09:30.20 | Mikma | but i'll just copy haste/cladhaire's pattern for it meheh |
| 09:34.01 | Mikma | oh yeah... |
| 09:34.21 | Mikma | the cat's poop may stink bad, but the cat still has to lick his arse clean haha! |
| 09:34.31 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 09:36.44 | Mikma | np: The Prodigy - No Good (Start The Dance) |
| 09:36.50 | Mikma | .ogg support on iTunes! |
| 09:36.54 | Mikma | this is really nice :D |
| 09:40.22 | Wobin | Oh darlin.. there are a million ways to be cruel |
| 09:41.02 | Wobin | http://youtube.com/watch?v=XkCfh7ayDms&search=ok%20go |
| 09:42.24 | Mikma | this sounds better: Anti-Gay Church Spokesperson on Fox News |
| 09:42.59 | Industrial | MoonWolf: WUP HOLLAND WUP |
| 09:43.03 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:43.10 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 09:43.15 | Industrial | land hup hup hol |
| 09:43.16 | Industrial | :D |
| 09:43.57 | Mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM9cyzNnDZg |
| 09:44.03 | Mikma | haha nice broadcast, REALLY! |
| 09:44.10 | Industrial | no sound :( |
| 09:44.17 | Mikma | 2 chicks fighting at tv |
| 09:44.32 | Mikma | not the way you would imagine |
| 09:45.01 | Wobin | The ok go video is priceless though =) |
| 09:45.02 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 09:45.05 | MoonWolf | that interview |
| 09:45.11 | MoonWolf | i read a report on their father and the whole family |
| 09:45.13 | MoonWolf | not good |
| 09:45.16 | MoonWolf | DO NOT WANT. |
| 09:45.34 | Mikma | well this is hilarious |
| 09:45.43 | Mikma | the other messed up the funeral and now has to suffer |
| 09:46.03 | Mikma | the fox lady is giving her hard time hehe |
| 09:46.22 | Wobin | meow |
| 09:46.23 | Wobin | rawr |
| 09:46.28 | MoonWolf | Woof |
| 09:46.30 | Mikma | touché |
| 09:47.03 | Wobin | woah |
| 09:47.07 | Wobin | Balanced reporting! |
| 09:47.16 | Mikma | "ok. ok. you are an abomination" |
| 09:47.37 | Mikma | Wobin: good video, ain't it :D |
| 09:47.42 | Wobin | It's great |
| 09:48.08 | Wobin | You are the devil! |
| 09:48.28 | Wobin | Hehe big story |
| 09:48.45 | Wobin | ooh |
| 09:48.47 | Wobin | Raging mad god |
| 09:49.07 | Wobin | Hehe I -like- her |
| 09:49.22 | Mikma | which one? :D |
| 09:50.40 | Wobin | The interviewer |
| 09:50.52 | Wobin | The interviewee is batshit crazy |
| 09:51.32 | Mikma | well yeah, messing up someones funeral and having people say that the boy was gay... |
| 09:51.41 | Mikma | that's a way to get noticed for sure |
| 09:53.59 | Wobin | which was the point |
| 09:56.15 | Mikma | yeah but i think almost everyone thoughts that they are bunch of idiots who have created their own bible |
| 09:56.52 | Industrial | Relogion is the root of all evil |
| 09:56.56 | Industrial | well, alot of evil |
| 09:56.58 | Industrial | most evil |
| 09:57.00 | Industrial | >:P |
| 09:57.13 | Industrial | not to start about religion! |
| 09:57.27 | Mikma | bungholio |
| 09:59.05 | Mikma | about religion.. http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/sinfest/2094/20060518.gif |
| 10:00.20 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:00.44 | MoonWolf | christian hate |
| 10:00.47 | MoonWolf | it dont get more intense. |
| 10:00.56 | Mikma | i must say thet those sinfest comics are really awesome |
| 10:01.09 | Wobin | aye |
| 10:01.38 | Mikma | has ui.worldofwar.net been down long? |
| 10:02.04 | MoonWolf | what bible are you reading , thats the best comment yet. |
| 10:02.29 | Mikma | MoonWolf: <1247> <Mikma> "ok. ok. you are an abomination" |
| 10:02.54 | Mikma | and you can hear it comes straight from her heart |
| 10:03.08 | MoonWolf | christian hate |
| 10:03.13 | MoonWolf | it doesnt get more intense. |
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| 10:03.26 | Industrial | What's green and smells of pork? |
| 10:03.31 | Industrial | Kermitt's finger |
| 10:03.33 | Industrial | HAHAHAH |
| 10:03.48 | Mikma | Industrial: i would have said "pork which is green" |
| 10:04.24 | Industrial | :P |
| 10:05.24 | Wobin | just like "What's brown and sticky?" |
| 10:05.27 | Wobin | "A stick" |
| 10:05.49 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 10:05.53 | Industrial | what do you call a boomerang that doesnt work? |
| 10:05.55 | Industrial | a stick |
| 10:06.11 | MoonWolf | whats red and round ? |
| 10:06.13 | MoonWolf | A red circle |
| 10:06.18 | Industrial | its green and sits on the fence |
| 10:06.20 | Industrial | paint |
| 10:06.34 | Wobin | What's yellow and can't climb trees? |
| 10:06.38 | Wobin | A bulldozer |
| 10:06.43 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 10:06.53 | Industrial | how does a cow jump into the water? |
| 10:06.57 | Industrial | splash |
| 10:07.02 | MoonWolf | its green and moving down a mountain |
| 10:07.06 | MoonWolf | Skiwi. |
| 10:07.13 | Mikma | haahaaa! |
| 10:07.34 | Industrial | a drum set falls off a cliff |
| 10:07.36 | Industrial | badoom tisch |
| 10:08.41 | Mikma | how chinese/japanese name their children? |
| 10:09.01 | Mikma | they take a handful of coins and throw them down the stairs: zing dang dojong |
| 10:09.22 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 10:10.05 | Industrial | lol |
| 10:10.05 | Industrial | :P |
| 10:11.14 | MoonWolf | One day, the belgian king calls up the dutch queen, " You are alway' s making fun of us belgians" he complains, and demands that the dutch do something stupid so they can make fun of them. "Alright" the queen replies, And build a bridge in the sahara desert. |
| 10:12.06 | MoonWolf | A month or two later the king calls again, " Okay that was a great laugh, you can take it down again now" , "We would like too", the queen replies " but first you need to get all those fishing belgians off of it" |
| 10:12.30 | Mikma | :D |
| 10:12.46 | Mikma | got fish? :D |
| 10:14.08 | Mikma | wobin got a brain overload |
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| 11:01.47 | MoonWolf | http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11504549264041wk.jpg < NSFW WATCH AT OWN RISK |
| 11:04.52 | Wobin | I hope that's not the 'Wall of 'ho' |
| 11:05.10 | MoonWolf | nope |
| 11:05.18 | [Ammo] | it's more evil |
| 11:05.18 | MoonWolf | its yust a guy cutting the head off of his penis. |
| 11:05.37 | Wobin | dear god it's worse |
| 11:05.44 | Wobin | why do you look these images up, Moonwolf? |
| 11:05.52 | Wobin | Have you a fetish you've not revealed? =P |
| 11:05.59 | MoonWolf | well |
| 11:06.00 | MoonWolf | eeuh |
| 11:07.56 | Wobin | They're such lovely people! |
| 11:08.11 | MoonWolf | Next morning he woke up and was like "What a crazy night, 3 bottles of Absinth! Wait, why does my penis feel funny?" |
| 11:08.59 | Wobin | OMG The Green Absinthe Fairy stole my dick! |
| 11:09.09 | Wobin | Damn you Kylie! Damn you! |
| 11:09.18 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 11:09.41 | MoonWolf | looks like ckk is either sleeping or not here |
| 11:09.48 | MoonWolf | thats something new. |
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| 12:33.39 | CIA-12 | 03werehamster * r2814 10CommChannel/Lib/CommChannel.lua: CommChannel: Fixed bug that would cause 'self' to be invalid in the client's interface |
| 12:35.26 | CIA-12 | 03werehamster * r2815 10HealSync/Lib/HealSync.lua: HealSync: Save heal informations in HealSync itself to avoid code duplication in clients. |
| 12:38.56 | CIA-12 | 03werehamster * r2816 10HealSync/README: HealSync: Updated README |
| 13:04.51 | phyber | some 4chan users you can easily spot. |
| 13:04.53 | phyber | 1348.05 >>> LoliDesu!n=nate@whoisyou.resnet.tamu.edu |
| 13:04.58 | phyber | :/ |
| 13:05.03 | haste | Loli :( |
| 13:05.13 | haste | wait a sec... |
| 13:05.27 | haste | 4chan doesn't have a loli board? that's so not4chan |
| 13:19.23 | MoonWolf | basically the same, not4chan is only maintaned seperate in case that link would disadvantage 4chan |
| 13:19.29 | MoonWolf | like for advertisements. |
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| 13:30.31 | Neronix | Being in Menorca for a week --> me out of sync with the world |
| 13:30.47 | Neronix | anyways, good afternoon |
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| 13:33.22 | Neronix | So did anything remotely significant happen in the past week? |
| 13:36.10 | MoonWolf | ckknight, decided to speed up ace 2 devlopment |
| 13:36.17 | MoonWolf | ouf2 is looking better |
| 13:36.22 | MoonWolf | we did not get a patch |
| 13:36.24 | MoonWolf | thats about it. |
| 13:39.47 | Neronix | I see, thanks |
| 13:52.11 | haste | so warm... not able to work :( |
| 13:52.23 | Wobin | yeah =( |
| 13:52.36 | Wobin | thank god for aircon |
| 13:52.52 | haste | :( |
| 13:52.58 | haste | I don't have such technology here |
| 13:53.09 | haste | I have a.. way to large fant tho |
| 13:53.17 | haste | s/fant/fan/ |
| 13:54.21 | haste | It's 35cm in diameter ;D |
| 13:54.23 | Wobin | oh haste! |
| 13:54.24 | Wobin | yes. |
| 13:54.26 | Wobin | um |
| 13:54.34 | Wobin | Aceheal clickcasting on the ToT bar? |
| 13:54.39 | Wobin | Is that possible? |
| 13:55.04 | haste | not sure :< |
| 13:55.26 | haste | I don't use AceHeal, so it's not very motivating to write a better module for it |
| 13:55.56 | haste | and I still have lots of work left on other addons |
| 13:57.18 | haste | does anyone know of a ape to mp3 converter for linux? |
| 13:57.25 | haste | I haven't been able to find one |
| 13:58.02 | Wobin | =( |
| 13:58.15 | haste | maybe compiling the mac version works |
| 13:59.33 | steino | i've tried that |
| 13:59.42 | steino | didnt work that good :| |
| 13:59.46 | steino | atleast on 64bit |
| 14:01.07 | haste | it compiled at least here |
| 14:01.18 | haste | tried compiling it through linux32? |
| 14:01.23 | steino | dont remember |
| 14:01.29 | steino | i think i complied |
| 14:01.54 | steino | it borked when i ran it |
| 14:05.58 | steino | zomg.. i cant cod with Bulkmail! |
| 14:06.01 | steino | :| |
| 14:06.31 | haste | he ran away :p |
| 14:06.35 | steino | !!! |
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| 16:20.21 | *** topic/#wowace is wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT | Well, ain't that cute. BUT IT'S WRONG! |
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| 16:25.42 | Wobin | purl welcome back =) |
| 16:25.44 | purl | Hey, back =)! Glad you could join us. |
| 16:25.51 | Wobin | hehe |
| 16:28.21 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 16:28.21 | hyperChipmunk | ~wb |
| 16:28.24 | purl | thx |
| 16:28.35 | hyperChipmunk | still a bit slow on the uptake, I see |
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| 16:39.41 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2818 10PlowKing/ (5 files): PlowKing - slot highlighting added (thank you phyber) for special bags |
| 16:40.07 | Mikma | Neronix: let the oUF2 madness begin! |
| 16:45.59 | Mikma | haha gf in the store... refridferator is full of cider |
| 16:46.07 | Mikma | + typo, again. |
| 16:50.16 | Mikma | Industrial: come along, level your huntah |
| 16:53.54 | Mikma | you're no good for me, i don't need nobody. don't need no-one, that's no good for me! |
| 17:02.04 | MoonWolf | Mikma, your gf is pretty weird. |
| 17:02.15 | Mikma | MoonWolf: well she likes strawberry-cider :) |
| 17:02.36 | MoonWolf | Still pretty weird, not that that is a bad thing. |
| 17:02.58 | Mikma | hehe |
| 17:03.12 | MoonWolf | if you ask me weird people are way more fun. |
| 17:04.04 | MoonWolf | I mean, if you had a choice, who would you rather spend you whole life with, brave little next door girl. or someone with for instance, tekkubs personality. |
| 17:04.16 | Mikma | aye, must agree on the weird-fun -thingy |
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| 17:05.58 | MoonWolf | DAMN, shackle undead looks cool. |
| 17:06.30 | Mikma | bondage s/m yeah |
| 17:08.15 | Mikma | yeah, shackle undead is dominatrix-skill |
| 17:10.10 | phyber | Wobin: :) |
| 17:11.01 | Mikma | http://stream.reaktio.net:8000 |
| 17:11.10 | Mikma | i found a pretty interesting songs... yet again :D |
| 17:13.21 | Mikma | whops.. oh well, there she blows.. quited the streamsoft lol |
| 17:14.13 | haste | I dueled a shadow priest now |
| 17:14.19 | haste | after 6min, we gave up |
| 17:14.24 | Mikma | :D |
| 17:15.03 | Mikma | 6min? bah |
| 17:15.10 | haste | maybe more |
| 17:15.14 | haste | I used two instant heals |
| 17:15.35 | Mikma | and you are a? |
| 17:15.46 | haste | shaman, full resto |
| 17:15.54 | Mikma | nice.. |
| 17:16.59 | Mikma | usually shaman vs. priest fights are short. if shaman happens to be melee :P |
| 17:17.43 | Mikma | i remember my fastest duel against a priest.. was something like 3 seconds |
| 17:17.45 | kergoth | hehe. purge, flurry/windfury, smoosh |
| 17:17.50 | Mikma | kergoth: amen. |
| 17:17.58 | Mikma | exactly that happened |
| 17:17.58 | haste | notice the _if_ |
| 17:18.11 | haste | my shaman uses cloth |
| 17:18.12 | Mikma | haste: yes that's why i said if ;) |
| 17:18.34 | Mikma | well cloth is better for healing |
| 17:18.44 | haste | exactly |
| 17:18.51 | Mikma | shaman still is one of my favorite classes |
| 17:19.03 | Mikma | eventho i don't play with it anymore :( |
| 17:19.05 | kergoth | i stopped playing mine once i started raiding |
| 17:19.09 | kergoth | get too pigeonholed into a single role |
| 17:19.11 | kergoth | less interesting |
| 17:20.59 | Mikma | do the shamans get pimped much in 1.11? |
| 17:21.33 | haste | elemental shamans get quite the boost |
| 17:21.41 | haste | restoration and enchancement get a nerf |
| 17:22.17 | haste | they change wf, so it's ~350 AP extra, instead of ~600 now |
| 17:22.39 | haste | so a restoration shaman in 1.10, get's the same boost from WF as a enchamcement shaman in 1.11 |
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| 17:36.13 | Wobin | kergoth: =( Vim is still doing that multiframe thing |
| 17:39.59 | Mikma | let's give another go on PlowKing just to see what's been done ;) |
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| 17:41.47 | MoonWolf | Wobin, quick, give me a witty reply to ni hao. |
| 17:42.03 | Wobin | hao! |
| 17:42.07 | Wobin | ni ne? |
| 17:42.08 | Mikma | siao |
| 17:43.39 | MoonWolf | Ni ne ? |
| 17:45.05 | Mikma | just say siao .. it means something like crazy |
| 17:45.09 | MoonWolf | annoying gold farmers for the win. |
| 17:45.59 | Mikma | mm, on nordrassil where i have my priest, there's always that freakin Huee lvl60 Undead Rogue grinding the birds on DWP |
| 17:46.45 | Mikma | 90% of the times i go there to check out the situation i find him there killing the birds |
| 17:48.01 | phyber | tao ni ma. |
| 17:48.35 | phyber | i think that roughly translates to "fuck your mother" ;) |
| 17:48.42 | Mikma | haha |
| 17:48.57 | MoonWolf | HEHE |
| 17:49.39 | phyber | I used to work with a few chinese girls, they taught me some cool stuff, but that's the only one I remember now. |
| 17:50.01 | MoonWolf | What is this going to be ? |
| 17:51.00 | steino | wtb haste ingame :O |
| 17:51.51 | haste | I am in-game ; |
| 17:52.00 | haste | not getting a ginvite tho' ^^ |
| 17:52.07 | haste | cba to whine about it also |
| 17:52.24 | steino | you're getting it now |
| 17:52.24 | steino | :p |
| 17:52.50 | steino | you shouldnt whine about it either, it was me starting it |
| 17:54.39 | haste | well, I wasn't going to leave at first, but after hearing anarc saying fuck off on VT, it basicly made me decide a lot faster :p |
| 17:54.58 | steino | <3 |
| 17:55.04 | steino | id do the same for you! |
| 17:55.56 | haste | ^^ |
| 18:10.10 | Mikma | should i try to code my bartender :P |
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| 18:10.22 | Mikma | i'm bored as hell and i need something to do. don't wan't to level either |
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| 18:22.09 | Industrial | IM FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 18:22.53 | Mikma | kkk? |
| 18:24.22 | Mikma | Industrial: go level, i'll code while waiting |
| 18:24.32 | Industrial | ;P |
| 18:24.36 | Industrial | yarly |
| 18:24.47 | Industrial | 20 today |
| 18:24.49 | Mikma | we're heading for 20-29 pvp so.. |
| 18:25.14 | Industrial | oh cool |
| 18:25.35 | Industrial | I better make a twink profile then |
| 18:26.49 | kergoth | 8 minutes from hitting 39 with my mage. can /finally/ wear the whitemane's chapeau i've been carrying for 4 or 5 levels |
| 18:33.06 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r2819 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: |
| 18:33.06 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 18:33.06 | CIA-12 | * Added CThun Dark Glare Group Warnings. |
| 18:33.06 | CIA-12 | * 4 seconds before Dark Glare it'll warn which group is going to be hit by the glare. |
| 18:35.56 | Wobin | kergoth: ugliest hat evar |
| 18:36.28 | kergoth | is it? i havent worn it before. sure is a nice mage hat attribute wise though |
| 18:37.16 | Wobin | That hat made me turn of show helm for the first time =P |
| 18:37.20 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:37.25 | Wobin | It's a fantastic caster hat =) |
| 18:37.37 | Wobin | But -everyone- wears it =) and it looks horrible =) |
| 18:41.13 | Mikma | hmm |
| 18:41.35 | Mikma | somehow i still don't get the way ckknight told me to do frames |
| 18:41.43 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2820 10PlowKing/ (PlowKing.lua PlowKingBagSlot.lua): PlowKing - Now has cooldown indicators |
| 18:42.02 | Wobin | Mikma: How do you mean? |
| 18:42.33 | Mikma | local frame; function monkey() frame = CreateFrame("Frame") end; print(frame) |
| 18:43.58 | Mikma | but i'm experimenting it atm |
| 18:44.50 | Mikma | Could not find frame "BartenderBar1" |
| 18:44.56 | Mikma | yeah figures |
| 18:48.25 | Ratbert_CP | Mmmm... Rules are working better and better... |
| 18:52.29 | Wobin | print(frame)? |
| 18:52.53 | Wobin | isn't frame an object? |
| 18:52.58 | Mikma | yeah i was wondering the same thing |
| 18:53.06 | Mikma | but that's a complete copypaste what ckknight said :P |
| 18:53.25 | Mikma | and.. don't i need the print-function also for that |
| 18:53.43 | kergoth | print(frame) makes sense outside of wow. the print function automatically does a tostring() |
| 18:53.49 | Mikma | but the main thing is i still can't use "local frame = CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 18:53.51 | kergoth | in wow you'd probably have to have Ace:print(tostring(frame)) |
| 18:53.58 | kergoth | but at any rate |
| 18:54.12 | Mikma | kergoth: yeah well that is a problem to me, since i don't code with ace :P |
| 18:54.48 | ckknight | Mikma, do you have FuBar? |
| 18:54.52 | kergoth | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(tostring(frame)) if you are wanting to print it at all |
| 18:54.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:54.58 | Mikma | ckknight: yeah but not enabled |
| 18:55.01 | ckknight | ah |
| 18:55.02 | ckknight | okay |
| 18:55.14 | ckknight | it has a print() and printFull() delivered with it |
| 18:55.26 | Mikma | ok that explains alot |
| 18:55.33 | ckknight | also /print |
| 18:56.01 | Mikma | you see, i'm trying to make this addon completely independent with no dependencies :D |
| 18:56.13 | Tain | I would have stayed away from actually creating a print() named that. |
| 18:56.17 | Mikma | we need a way to scroll the WarmUp without mouse :( |
| 18:56.29 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r2821 10BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua: |
| 18:56.29 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 18:56.29 | CIA-12 | * Fixed timer typo in Cthun module |
| 18:56.53 | Mikma | ckknight: but anyway i still don't get the whole idea on the local frame = ... :( |
| 18:57.04 | Mikma | no matter what i try it keeps saying there's no frame called that |
| 18:57.32 | ckknight | Mikma, local function print(text, ...) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(string.format(tostring(text), unpack(arg))) end |
| 18:57.44 | ckknight | okay, pastebin? |
| 18:58.03 | kergoth | ckknight: what i -hate- about string.format is that it doestn call tostring on its arguments if they arent strings |
| 18:58.06 | kergoth | i mean, what the fuck |
| 18:58.12 | ckknight | yea |
| 18:58.12 | kergoth | what use is it without converting them to strings? |
| 18:58.30 | ckknight | %.1f would still work, right? |
| 18:58.33 | ckknight | or would it not? |
| 18:58.33 | kergoth | i end up iterating over arg in my version converting tem all |
| 18:58.37 | kergoth | s/tem/them/ |
| 18:59.04 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r2822 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua: |
| 18:59.04 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 18:59.04 | CIA-12 | * Should have fixed the Enrage timer bar. |
| 18:59.05 | ckknight | okay, apparently it does |
| 19:01.21 | Mikma | ckknight: remember, nonace code http://pastebin.com/713573 |
| 19:02.36 | ckknight | change BartenderBar1 = CreateFrame("Frame",nil,UIParent) to CreateFrame("Frame", "BartenderBar1", UIParent)? |
| 19:06.05 | Mikma | heh |
| 19:06.32 | Mikma | works like a charm now with local foo = CreateFrame |
| 19:07.15 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:07.16 | Industrial | Mikma: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/templates/twinks/20-29/hunter |
| 19:07.17 | Mikma | ckknight: that's nice, thanks :) |
| 19:07.20 | Industrial | some for you to look at |
| 19:07.22 | Industrial | gunna level now |
| 19:07.42 | Mikma | wall of text crits you for 1702306. you die. |
| 19:07.52 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:07.57 | ckknight | doesn't work, Indie |
| 19:08.16 | ckknight | Ringed Helm, the first item, requires level 25 |
| 19:08.18 | Mikma | you spent 30min on good playingtime doing that?! |
| 19:08.27 | Mikma | omg omg zomg! |
| 19:08.48 | Mikma | ckknight: it's 20-29 hunter |
| 19:09.03 | ckknight | that's why it says Level 19 hunter twink template at the top |
| 19:09.28 | Mikma | Industrial: you made a poopie there |
| 19:09.40 | ckknight | poop! |
| 19:09.57 | Mikma | poop poopie doop |
| 19:10.09 | Tain | So I picked up a classic safety razor, the ones that take the dual edged razor blades. |
| 19:10.21 | Tain | Just shaved with it for the first time. What a different experience. |
| 19:10.30 | Mikma | half of the face is missing? |
| 19:10.41 | Tain | Nah, only cut myself once!@ |
| 19:13.11 | Industrial | Mikma: oops |
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| 19:15.53 | Mikma | Wobin: was it you who made the 0 sized frame with custom Hide and Show? |
| 19:16.08 | Wobin | yeah |
| 19:16.20 | Mikma | Wobin: where can i see the code? |
| 19:16.43 | Wobin | Sure, it's in PlowKing.lua |
| 19:17.12 | Wobin | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/PlowKing/PlowKing.lua |
| 19:17.14 | Wobin | maybe |
| 19:17.53 | Mikma | Wobin: thanks :) |
| 19:18.13 | Wobin | np |
| 19:19.37 | Mikma | ooh! i got the actionbarswapping (bonus <-> main) working! |
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| 19:26.44 | Jarenthal | Out of curiosity, has anyone ace'd RogueTracker since I checked last? |
| 19:27.43 | haste | Don't think so, but then again I don't know what the addon even does. |
| 19:28.19 | wereHamster | why do you people always want to aceify everything? |
| 19:28.45 | kergoth | it isnt the acing its important, its that its rewritten to be more efficient. |
| 19:28.56 | Ratbert_CP | It's the implied optimizations that those who tend to Ace addons provide. |
| 19:28.57 | kergoth | it just happens that the devs in the ace community tend to prefer that efficiency |
| 19:29.41 | Ratbert_CP | Unlike me, who destroy all traces of effeciency when coding with Ace and Ace byproducts... |
| 19:29.48 | wereHamster | sure.. I like efficiency, too, but I avoid ace because it's possiblt to write efficient addons even without it |
| 19:29.58 | kergoth | yes, it is |
| 19:30.45 | ckknight | Ratbert_CP, I've been writing AceDB2 |
| 19:30.48 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 19:31.12 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2823 10AceLibrary/AceDB.lua: AceDB - profiles are now case-insensitive |
| 19:31.34 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2824 10AceLibrary/AceDB-profiles-4.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceDB-profiles-4.lua |
| 19:32.01 | Ratbert_CP | Mainly, I want to get away from the Ace profiles, which aren't needed as much with the whole SavedVariablesByCharacter (or whatever the directive is) |
| 19:32.03 | ckknight | it's a mite bit more efficient than AceDB1 |
| 19:32.32 | ckknight | SavedVariablesPerCharacter |
| 19:32.39 | kergoth | imo they're definately needed. i almost never have character specific stuff, prefer class specific |
| 19:32.41 | Tain | I like Ace for the idea of coding my addons in a similar way across the board and not havign to worry about some things. Chat commands for example. |
| 19:32.53 | ckknight | same, Tain |
| 19:33.15 | wereHamster | me too.. teh chat commands |
| 19:33.16 | Tain | And yeah kergoth class specific is far more important to me. |
| 19:33.24 | ckknight | lol, yea |
| 19:33.57 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender/Bb_Ss_01.jpg and http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender/Bb_Ss_02.jpg :) |
| 19:34.04 | Ratbert_CP | It'd be nice to have floating icons for FuBarPlugin, rather than cluttering the minimap... |
| 19:34.32 | ckknight | floating icons? |
| 19:35.11 | ckknight | Mikma, why all capital letters? |
| 19:35.23 | Tain | I hate minimap icons. |
| 19:35.28 | Tain | Just me of course, but they bug me. |
| 19:35.31 | kergoth | buttonhole is my new best friend |
| 19:35.35 | kergoth | just need to make its api not suck |
| 19:35.55 | hyperChipmunk | Tain: isn't just you |
| 19:35.58 | Mikma | ckknight: just to catch my own attention :) won't stay around when i manage to code it more |
| 19:36.02 | hyperChipmunk | those things suck |
| 19:36.10 | ckknight | Mikma, ah, okay |
| 19:36.12 | hyperChipmunk | only one I have is the tracking one |
| 19:36.19 | hyperChipmunk | and that's in there by default |
| 19:36.26 | Tain | haha ok I need to pay attention. kergoth I thought you just said, "butthole is my new friend" and I was confused to all hell. |
| 19:36.32 | hyperChipmunk | I even get rid of the mail, time of day, etc. |
| 19:36.36 | hyperChipmunk | lol I read that too |
| 19:36.51 | Mikma | same here |
| 19:37.07 | Tain | Yeah I have my time on FuBar, use MailFu, nothing at all but the minimap. |
| 19:37.11 | kergoth | hahahah |
| 19:38.22 | Tain | haha wow it's like.. a real billboard; http://www.neatorama.com/2006/06/16/we-should-like-stop-saying-like/ |
| 19:39.37 | Mikma | Tain: like, you don't like the word like? |
| 19:39.56 | hyperChipmunk | that's stupid |
| 19:40.25 | hyperChipmunk | do they have ones in Canada saying, "Cut the 'eh', eh?" |
| 19:40.37 | ckknight | see, like isn't a bad word, just in the context and the amount of times that she used it was poor |
| 19:40.58 | ckknight | Tain sayin "it's like.. a real billboard" has no grammatical flaws |
| 19:41.16 | hyperChipmunk | well, when you're the ones making the poster, you make it ridiculous to prove your point |
| 19:41.33 | hyperChipmunk | I've only known a few people who ACTUALLY talk that way |
| 19:41.58 | Tain | Well, according to the billboard she's from Santa Barbara. |
| 19:42.07 | Mikma | eww, i hope you bitchslapped them back to africa (quess from what movie) |
| 19:42.13 | Mikma | guess* |
| 19:42.24 | Tain | Jungle Heat? |
| 19:42.25 | hyperChipmunk | I'd like to read that asterisk text |
| 19:42.41 | ckknight | lol, "Acadamy of Linguistic Awarness" |
| 19:42.51 | ckknight | misspelled both Academy and Awareness |
| 19:43.01 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 19:43.07 | Mikma | well the movie was rush hour2 and jackie chan said that to chris tucker |
| 19:43.46 | hyperChipmunk | like I said, I'm curious as to what the asterisk footnote is |
| 19:43.57 | hyperChipmunk | First post to not say “likeâ€! |
| 19:44.01 | hyperChipmunk | Edit: DAMN >_ |
| 19:46.02 | kergoth | ckknight: it's like.. a real billboard implies that it isnt a real billboard, but is similar to one. imo using like as a generic pause/delimiter is a Bad Thing, and isnt grammatically correct |
| 19:46.29 | ckknight | yea, using like as a simile is fine, but as a pause, it isn't |
| 19:46.38 | ckknight | as it construes the meaning to something you didn't want |
| 19:46.44 | Tain | I was using it as a joke in reference to what I was linking! |
| 19:46.53 | Industrial | like, no wai |
| 19:47.44 | Tain | Of course just the headlines at fark are better than any of the news stories. |
| 19:47.46 | ckknight | lolzors, Industrial |
| 19:47.48 | Tain | "Study: Black adults hear better than other racial groups. Say "what" again... SAY "WHAT" AGAIN... I dare you, I double-dare you, motherfarker... Say "what" one more goddamn time" |
| 19:48.30 | ckknight | "now does he look like a bitch to you?" "What?" *gunfire* |
| 19:48.45 | Tain | haha wikipedia is the best thing in the universe |
| 19:48.46 | Tain | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_problems_solved_by_MacGyver |
| 19:49.42 | Neronix | Is concactenating a string an expensive operation at all? |
| 19:50.00 | kergoth | Neronix: somewhat, but lua optimizes multiple concats on a single line into a single concat. |
| 19:50.14 | kergoth | local a = b .. c .. d .. e is actually one CONCAT vm instruction |
| 19:50.23 | Neronix | hmm |
| 19:50.35 | kergoth | whereas for i=1,1000 do a .. tostring(i) end will actually do 1000 concatenations |
| 19:51.47 | Neronix | bleh, I'll try and concactenate once somewhere rather than on every event, albeit at a minor cost of simplicity |
| 19:52.49 | Neronix | thanks for the info |
| 19:55.12 | Industrial | How the bloody fucken hell do i train my pet nw talents |
| 19:55.16 | Industrial | I have 17 points |
| 19:55.29 | Industrial | cant find it |
| 19:55.30 | Industrial | :| |
| 19:55.46 | Ratbert_CP | Damn you Tain! I actually wasted some time reading that! |
| 19:55.53 | Mikma | Industrial: skillbook, "Train Pet" |
| 19:56.12 | Mikma | Ratbert_CP: i thought i was the only one |
| 19:56.32 | Mikma | where's the part where macgyver disarms a nuclear weapon with tennisracket? |
| 19:56.52 | Industrial | spellbook? talents? |
| 19:57.05 | haste | or where he breaks into the worlds safest museum with cola can |
| 19:57.55 | Mikma | Industrial: press P and look there a skill "Train Pet" or something |
| 19:57.57 | Mikma | gah |
| 19:58.02 | Mikma | i'll check it |
| 19:58.14 | Industrial | i dont have default bindings - ofcoure |
| 19:58.14 | Wobin | It's under beast training |
| 19:58.18 | Wobin | it looks like a slingshot |
| 19:58.20 | Ratbert_CP | ckknight: When will AceDB2 be ready? (And will IBM issue a C&D if we call it AceDB2?) |
| 19:58.44 | Wobin | PS can someone break plowking? |
| 19:58.52 | Industrial | well i dont have it |
| 19:58.55 | Industrial | Wobin: k |
| 19:58.58 | kergoth | i'll try when i get home |
| 19:59.03 | Wobin | Industrial: have you done the quests? |
| 19:59.07 | ckknight | Ratbert_CP, soonish, IBM can't, since AceDB2 and DB2 do not resemble each other, thus no trademarking issues |
| 19:59.08 | Wobin | chat to the trainer now |
| 19:59.08 | Industrial | goess not |
| 19:59.14 | Ratbert_CP | :) |
| 19:59.24 | Industrial | im in westfall now :< (im NE) |
| 19:59.29 | Wobin | hehe |
| 19:59.31 | Wobin | alas |
| 19:59.34 | Wobin | IF |
| 19:59.36 | Wobin | ftw |
| 19:59.36 | ckknight | it's actually AceDB-2.0, technically |
| 19:59.38 | Industrial | *sigh* |
| 19:59.47 | Wobin | I know how you feel =) |
| 19:59.58 | Mikma | Industrial: General -> Beast Training (from spellbook) |
| 20:00.12 | Tain | But will AceDB-2.0 support SQL? |
| 20:00.22 | Wobin | And will it heal my raid? |
| 20:00.31 | ckknight | Tain, I wish |
| 20:00.32 | ckknight | but no. |
| 20:00.46 | ckknight | it just uses a raw table structure |
| 20:00.54 | Wobin | gah |
| 20:00.56 | ckknight | lua-tables, not SQL tables |
| 20:00.57 | Wobin | have to sleep |
| 20:01.01 | Wobin | nini =) |
| 20:01.06 | ckknight | cya |
| 20:01.07 | kergoth | hehe. sql in lua. sick bastards |
| 20:01.15 | Ratbert_CP | ckknight: Why not? My old roommate coded up a SQL-77 compliant db in Perl (without any of the DB libraries)... |
| 20:01.24 | ckknight | hehe, neat |
| 20:01.31 | ckknight | naw, it's overboard and would be expensive |
| 20:01.32 | Mikma | Industrial: /script CastSpellByName("Beast Training") |
| 20:01.36 | Industrial | nn wobble |
| 20:01.37 | ckknight | we just don't need it |
| 20:01.44 | Tain | select * from chars where class = "Mage" |
| 20:01.53 | kergoth | heh, that exact same argument applies to the old automagic tables, ckk :) |
| 20:02.06 | ckknight | kergoth, yes, and I no longer have them. |
| 20:02.09 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:02.16 | kergoth | thank god |
| 20:02.16 | Industrial | Tain: noes we'd want a spiffy frontend |
| 20:02.35 | Industrial | Currentarea.Chars.Warlock.All() |
| 20:02.39 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:02.50 | Industrial | *cough* ckknight |
| 20:03.36 | ckknight | currentarea.chars.warlock.filter(name__startswith="Ind") |
| 20:03.36 | Mikma | Industrial: tried it? |
| 20:03.40 | ckknight | too bad this isn't python |
| 20:03.46 | ckknight | btw, that was Django syntax |
| 20:04.23 | ckknight | lua doesn't have **kwargs, though |
| 20:04.38 | Industrial | nice Mikma |
| 20:04.40 | Industrial | works |
| 20:04.45 | Mikma | goodie :) |
| 20:04.50 | ckknight | personally, I really wish that WoW used SQLite |
| 20:04.51 | kergoth | heh, yeah, you'd have to pass a table, more overhead |
| 20:04.59 | Mikma | Industrial: just remember later in the game... don't train the rank1 and rank2 talents for pets |
| 20:05.02 | kergoth | filter{name__startswith="Ind"} |
| 20:05.10 | kergoth | ckknight: agreed |
| 20:05.13 | kergoth | sqlite3 is awesome |
| 20:05.20 | ckknight | yes. |
| 20:05.20 | Mikma | Industrial: always train the best rank there is, that way you will save the points on training |
| 20:05.21 | ckknight | it is. |
| 20:05.28 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.32 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.35 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:05.37 | ckknight | that seems odd |
| 20:05.44 | ckknight | for a big server, it's be postgres for me |
| 20:05.47 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.50 | kergoth | agreed |
| 20:05.54 | ckknight | for something small/single-threaded, sqlite all the way |
| 20:06.08 | kergoth | mian concern with sqlite is locking |
| 20:06.12 | kergoth | not exactly good concurrency |
| 20:06.15 | ckknight | yea... |
| 20:06.22 | Tain | My system's database consists of grep and text files. |
| 20:06.22 | ckknight | it's still good at what it does, though |
| 20:06.27 | kergoth | lock by the entire file. course you can combine multiple files in a query now, so that helps, but.. |
| 20:06.43 | Industrial | Mikma: yeh |
| 20:06.56 | Jarenthal | This is funny. Lua to the rescue! |
| 20:07.12 | Industrial | haste: neato |
| 20:07.20 | Industrial | haste: OUF! (just kidding) |
| 20:07.26 | Jarenthal | I get to use a Lua startup script to try to make my Litestep theme work the way I want. |
| 20:07.53 | kergoth | i use lua scripts for my window manager too |
| 20:07.55 | kergoth | ion3 |
| 20:07.57 | kergoth | :) |
| 20:10.48 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2825 10AceLibrary/AceDB.lua: AceDB - added :IsEnabled() and :ToggleStandby() to mixin methods. |
| 20:11.21 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2826 10AceLibrary/AceDB-standby-1.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceDB-standby-1.lua |
| 20:11.27 | Neronix | How expensive is getglobal? |
| 20:11.37 | ckknight | not too bad |
| 20:11.52 | ckknight | basically it's just running getfenv(0)[key] |
| 20:13.12 | Neronix | hmm, getfenv itself is as slow as string concats |
| 20:13.24 | Tain | Just do a local copy if you're doing a getglobal on the same thing many times. |
| 20:15.01 | Neronix | I'll try that, thanks |
| 20:15.33 | kergoth | i do that quite a bit. local _G = getfenv(0) |
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| 20:39.15 | Mikma | now i need to remember how the saved variables work |
| 20:40.45 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2827 10AceLibrary/AceAddon.lua: AceAddon - if mixins provide :OnEmbedDisable(target), then that will be fired when an addon's :OnDisable() is called. |
| 20:40.58 | ckknight | Mikma, :-P |
| 20:41.11 | ckknight | why not require Ace? |
| 20:42.16 | Mikma | ckknight: because i can't code with ace :P |
| 20:42.23 | ckknight | why not? |
| 20:42.49 | Mikma | haven't learned |
| 20:43.06 | Mikma | been focusing on very small addons / codings so haven't needed the skill |
| 20:49.41 | haste | skill :o ? |
| 20:50.43 | Mikma | yeah, the one you guys have and i don't |
| 20:52.27 | ckknight | ... |
| 20:52.31 | haste | Use the tools that are at your hand |
| 20:52.41 | ckknight | it'd be easier to use Ace |
| 20:52.49 | haste | Heck, I wouldn't have even botherered touching lua if it would have to make my own slash handler :< |
| 20:53.18 | Tain | haha yeah haste |
| 20:54.06 | haste | I absolutly _hate_ doing slash commands without Ace |
| 20:54.18 | Mikma | well i don't see a big difference between any of the codes i look, they're all too hard for me anyway ;) |
| 20:54.19 | haste | I would rather make a GUI in XML then doing it :< |
| 20:55.46 | haste | also, I don't think of my self as a skilled coder, at least not in lua :p |
| 20:56.52 | Mikma | eventho you still manage to do something with it :) |
| 20:57.15 | steino | haste is a good coder, he's just shy :p |
| 20:57.15 | haste | Yes, because I have a tendency to never stop when I hit the wall :p |
| 20:59.41 | Mikma | if not oUFDB then oUFDB = self.defaults end , this seems to be easy enough hehe |
| 21:00.53 | haste | ;p |
| 21:02.24 | Mikma | the only thing that confuses me about those ace-codes are still the self's in there |
| 21:04.48 | Mikma | but on the other hand.. |
| 21:05.02 | Mikma | some of the ace-codes seem 20x easier than doing things in pure lua |
| 21:06.19 | Mikma | haste: feature-request, PartyPets in it's own addon |
| 21:06.37 | haste | why? |
| 21:06.44 | haste | It's... 4 lines of code |
| 21:06.53 | Mikma | if you don't want' to see partypets but wanna see your own pet |
| 21:07.04 | Mikma | well make it switchable then :D |
| 21:07.05 | haste | then turn them off in the interface options |
| 21:07.20 | haste | I'm so one step infront of others at times xD |
| 21:07.57 | Mikma | interface options? |
| 21:08.08 | Mikma | that's interesting, didn't know |
| 21:08.17 | haste | ;D |
| 21:08.33 | Mikma | you mean default blizz interfaceor ouf's? |
| 21:08.46 | haste | default |
| 21:08.56 | Mikma | oh there it is |
| 21:09.02 | haste | I wonder why no one uses those :< |
| 21:09.04 | Mikma | "show party member's pets" |
| 21:09.17 | Mikma | well no-one knows they exist hehe |
| 21:09.59 | Mikma | make a readme! :D |
| 21:11.02 | haste | I'm going to make a post on the forums today |
| 21:11.24 | Mikma | support-flood continues on forums |
| 21:12.50 | Mikma | haste: i may be either stupid or blind, but you're not setting the oUFDB as database anywhere and still it seems to work? |
| 21:13.22 | haste | It's in the TOC |
| 21:13.33 | haste | I don't use AceDB in oUF |
| 21:14.07 | Mikma | hmm. that explains why it's not there |
| 21:19.52 | Mikma | so it seems that with ace i don't need the .xml file at all |
| 21:21.08 | haste | You don't need the XML file without ace either |
| 21:21.26 | Mikma | then how will the OnLoad and OnEvent be handled? |
| 21:22.34 | haste | You create the frame with CreateFrame and SetScript (think that was correct) |
| 21:22.44 | haste | OnLoad will however be called when the frame is created. |
| 21:23.11 | Mikma | right. now i need to find an example of that |
| 21:23.26 | haste | It's on the Ace fourm |
| 21:23.48 | haste | The example is how you do OnUpdate tho' |
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| 21:32.45 | Neronix | http://ace.pastebin.com/713885 - This any good? |
| 21:35.39 | Mikma | zomg. /script WarmupChatFrame:PageUp() and /script WarmupChatFrame:PageDown() |
| 21:38.13 | Mikma | hmm atm Bartender is 55KiB |
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| 21:43.45 | Amadeo | hiya |
| 21:43.48 | Mikma | hi |
| 21:43.52 | Amadeo | what's that website that automatically tracks people and their honor again? |
| 21:45.41 | Amadeo | someone showed your char on it once, Mikma |
| 21:46.14 | Mikma | Amadeo: hmm |
| 21:46.24 | Mikma | i think i did show it myself or so, let me see |
| 21:46.26 | haste | rofl |
| 21:46.31 | haste | I'm so stupid today |
| 21:46.51 | haste | I sit for HOURS and try to split a .ape file on my linux box |
| 21:47.01 | Mikma | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/ |
| 21:47.07 | haste | then I suddenly get idea; Why not use the laptop, which runs windows to do it? |
| 21:47.42 | Amadeo | thanks Mikma |
| 21:48.01 | Mikma | np :) |
| 21:48.24 | Mikma | if you lose it for some reason, just google "world of warcraft census" and hit "i'm feeling lucky" |
| 21:48.40 | Amadeo | haha ok |
| 21:48.55 | Mikma | that's how i find it moment ago hehe |
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| 22:00.57 | haste | splitting a 400MB long file, on my poiwerful 600MHz laptop = time taking |
| 22:01.24 | haste | s/long/large/ |
| 22:05.10 | Industrial | haste: fixz0r y00r pc |
| 22:05.20 | Industrial | you cant play wow yet/ |
| 22:05.27 | haste | uhm? |
| 22:05.43 | haste | I fixed it like, last week ;D |
| 22:06.01 | haste | but I used two days on preparing for my exam |
| 22:08.11 | kergoth | FOO |
| 22:08.16 | haste | BAR |
| 22:17.19 | Industrial | haste: oic |
| 22:17.39 | Industrial | haste: btw, im playing with Mikma and his gf on a new server :X |
| 22:17.49 | Industrial | NE hunter |
| 22:17.50 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:18.01 | haste | Last time I played NE, I deleted WoW |
| 22:18.07 | Industrial | ;x |
| 22:18.37 | Industrial | why is there a bloodelf in wow atm btw |
| 22:18.55 | haste | some of them in BWL also |
| 22:19.01 | Industrial | k |
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| 22:25.45 | Mikma | ARGH! how can i turn of the completion of items in KC_Items? |
| 22:27.42 | Mikma | if i paste quest from monkeyquest it results the following: [Green Hills of Stranglethorn - Page 24] An Unwelcome Visitor |
| 22:27.48 | Shyva | ./kci chatlink, there you can turn save mode on or turn it of |
| 22:28.12 | Mikma | thanks |
| 22:28.24 | Shyva | save mode will only complete the word if you put a $ in front of the [x] |
| 22:28.47 | Mikma | that sound much better |
| 22:28.57 | kergoth | heh, that should probably be default :P |
| 22:29.42 | Shyva | yea :p |
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| 22:31.03 | kergoth | hey clad |
| 22:31.05 | cladhaire | heyas |
| 22:31.09 | cladhaire | the new forums are shiny |
| 22:31.22 | Industrial | new forums?! |
| 22:31.51 | cladhaire | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=10001&sid=1 |
| 22:32.06 | Industrial | ooooo |
| 22:32.07 | kergoth | neat |
| 22:32.40 | cladhaire | i posted on my priest in the forum avatar sticky |
| 22:32.41 | cladhaire | sagart |
| 22:32.45 | Mikma | bling bling |
| 22:32.45 | cladhaire | check out how pimpshe is =0 |
| 22:33.14 | Mikma | cladhaire: what page |
| 22:33.30 | cladhaire | 4 |
| 22:33.38 | cladhaire | lts post on 4 |
| 22:33.48 | cladhaire | WHOA |
| 22:33.48 | cladhaire | you can ignore users on the forums |
| 22:33.49 | cladhaire | zomg |
| 22:34.11 | Mikma | hehe |
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| 22:35.11 | Makk | yo. |
| 22:36.17 | cladhaire | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10481095&postId=104501444&sid=1#104501444 |
| 22:36.22 | cladhaire | you can list your talent builds. |
| 22:36.27 | cladhaire | I just added Draoi's |
| 22:39.48 | Mikma | thats nice! |
| 22:40.34 | MoonWolf | i love these forums. |
| 22:41.08 | cladhaire | theyre very speedy |
| 22:41.11 | cladhaire | which.. is.. refreshing. |
| 22:41.28 | kergoth | google scholar rocks. i had no idea |
| 22:41.29 | Mikma | well they are speedy now, but wait for n+1 useris |
| 22:41.35 | cladhaire | scholar? |
| 22:41.46 | kergoth | searches academic papers |
| 22:41.49 | kergoth | like citeseer type stuff |
| 22:41.54 | cladhaire | nice |
| 22:41.58 | kergoth | works really well |
| 22:42.15 | kergoth | searched it for quicksort recursion pattern, and first link was the paper on sorting morphisms, exactly what i was looking for |
| 22:42.24 | cladhaire | very nice |
| 22:44.41 | kergoth | sorting morphisms is an interesting one. classifies a number of sorting algorithms by their recursion pattern |
| 22:45.02 | kergoth | coming to the conclusion that quick and heap sort are binary trees which are never visible. rici over in #lua used that idea to implement an incremental quicksort |
| 22:45.05 | kergoth | cool stuff |
| 22:45.16 | MoonWolf | way over my head. |
| 22:46.27 | CIA-12 | 03cladhaire 07Unstable * r2828 10Clique/Clique/CliqueModules.lua: Clique: Added rudimentary support for WatchDog |
| 22:53.40 | Tain | Alright, going to wipe and install fBSD. |
| 22:54.02 | cladhaire | tho i'd support openbsd as well |
| 22:54.10 | cladhaire | hope you dont need it for desktop stuff =) |
| 22:54.16 | cladhaire | or if you do you install a distro for it. |
| 22:55.56 | Tain | No, I actually use it just for a file and web server, and remote console. |
| 22:56.03 | CIA-12 | 03cladhaire 07Unstable * r2829 10Clique/Clique/CliqueModules.lua: Clique: Added conditional code for DUF.. i'll get to the others later |
| 22:56.38 | Tain | I haven't used FreeBSD myself at home since around... v3.8 I think. |
| 22:56.51 | cladhaire | i still prefer open |
| 22:57.03 | cladhaire | only reason i ever used free was raid support for PERC3 in a dell server |
| 22:57.05 | Mikma | how's Clique coming along? :) |
| 22:57.15 | cladhaire | well |
| 22:57.19 | cladhaire | need to hack on it a bit this week |
| 22:57.20 | cladhaire | but it works |
| 22:57.24 | cladhaire | almost in its entirety |
| 22:57.36 | kergoth | did that gui ever end up being done? |
| 22:57.39 | Tain | Funny story though, I had switched to running Linux at home because I couldn't get ShowEQ working in BSD and after using it never wanted to play EverQuest without it again. |
| 22:57.39 | cladhaire | need to clean some stuff up and get it releas ready |
| 22:57.40 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 22:57.42 | cladhaire | the GUI is done |
| 22:57.46 | cladhaire | can see it on branches |
| 22:57.56 | kergoth | neat |
| 22:57.56 | cladhaire | whats showeq |
| 22:58.16 | Tain | heh ShowEQ was a horrible horrible program that no one should have ever had. |
| 22:58.48 | Tain | You ran it next to your EQ system on the same network and it sniffed the packets from EQ and showed you everything that was sent to your client. Full maps, full mobs positions realtime in the zone. |
| 22:59.14 | Tain | Keep in mind this was when there was NO map in the client at all. |
| 22:59.39 | cladhaire | not exp log srand xor s qq qx xor s x x length uc ord and print chr ord for qw q join use sub tied qx xor eval xor print qq q q xor int eval lc q m cos and print chr ord for qw y abs ne open tied hex exp ref y m xor scalar srand print qq q q xor int eval lc qq y sqrt cos and print chr ord for qw x printf each return local x y or print qq s s and eval q s undef or oct xor time xor ref print chr int ord lc fore |
| 23:00.12 | Mikma | . |
| 23:00.22 | cladhaire | run that in perl =) |
| 23:02.01 | *** join/#wowace Galka (n=Galka@pool-72-88-135-22.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:02.04 | Mikma | pastebin it, too long to copy ;)I |
| 23:02.50 | cladhaire | i'm too lazy |
| 23:05.06 | kergoth | "Assuming either the Left Wing or the Right Wing gained control of the country, it would probably fly around in circles." |
| 23:07.55 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:07.59 | cladhaire | i laughed. |
| 23:08.00 | cladhaire | out loud. |
| 23:08.11 | Tain | I cried because it's already true. :( |
| 23:08.15 | kergoth | hahah |
| 23:12.03 | KaeltenAway | just stoping in for a moment to let everyone know that I'm going to be out of town till late tommorow |
| 23:12.52 | KaeltenAway | so later guys see you all then |
| 23:13.00 | kergoth | later, have fun |
| 23:13.11 | Kaelten | I'm looking forward to it |
| 23:36.19 | Tekcub | OH |
| 23:36.20 | Tekcub | MAH |
| 23:36.23 | Tekcub | GAWD |
| 23:36.24 | Tekcub | BECKY! |
| 23:36.37 | Tekcub | they added the one feature I always wanted on the o.forum |
| 23:37.26 | Mikma | Who's he? |
| 23:37.39 | kergoth | ~emulate saien |
| 23:37.41 | purl | Slash commands are ameturish. |
| 23:37.57 | kergoth | ~emulate saien |
| 23:37.58 | purl | Why do I care? Why are you posting here? |
| 23:39.38 | Shyva | in the ace cmd options, can I add this: method = "func(2)" ? (if I;m not understandeble I'll ask it after i've been to bed :p) |
| 23:39.55 | cladhaire | Shyva: Not in the current, you can emulate that pretty well in the new version tho |
| 23:40.10 | Shyva | Oh, okay, thanks cladhaire |
| 23:40.13 | Tekcub | hey clad had a thought for the command handler |
| 23:40.17 | cladhaire | k k |
| 23:40.26 | Tekcub | a flag: tokenize = true, |
| 23:40.46 | Tekcub | it'd tokenize the command the user entered and pass as seperate args |
| 23:40.55 | cladhaire | it does it by default. |
| 23:41.00 | cladhaire | with validation if you supply a function |
| 23:41.07 | cladhaire | turns numbers into numbers, etc |
| 23:41.08 | Tekcub | oh, okey nevermind :) |
| 23:41.59 | cladhaire | input = TRUE |
| 23:42.05 | cladhaire | anything is tokenized |
| 23:42.08 | cladhaire | which .. could be annoying. |
| 23:42.08 | Shyva | when will ace 2 come? not asking for a date, but something rough, 1 month? half a year? something like that, any idea? |
| 23:42.10 | cladhaire | come to think of it. |
| 23:42.19 | cladhaire | hmm |
| 23:43.28 | cladhaire | Tekcub: How do you think we should handle that? |
| 23:43.37 | cladhaire | i think string input is the exception |
| 23:44.09 | Tekcub | whatcha mean? |
| 23:44.33 | Tekcub | I think tokenizing shouldn't happen unless there's a subcommand defined or the author tells it to happen |
| 23:44.42 | cladhaire | I think it should be the default. |
| 23:44.54 | cladhaire | ./praid message This is a long message |
| 23:44.56 | cladhaire | should be the exception |
| 23:45.02 | Tekcub | then revere the logic, noTekenize = true |
| 23:45.08 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 23:45.10 | cladhaire | something like that |
| 23:45.10 | kergoth | i dont think its the common case that the user would want to do their own direct parsing of the input |
| 23:45.37 | cladhaire | Which is why i did it |
| 23:45.42 | cladhaire | and provided the validate option |
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| 23:57.18 | CIA-12 | 03neronix * r2830 10FuBar_NanoStatsFu/NanoStatsFu.lua: |
| 23:57.18 | CIA-12 | NanoStatsFu - Rewrote the way text updates are handled. Now should run |
| 23:57.18 | CIA-12 | about 5-10x faster |
| 23:59.38 | CIA-12 | 03neronix * r2831 10NanoStats/NanoStats.lua: |
| 23:59.38 | CIA-12 | NanoStats |
| 23:59.38 | CIA-12 | - Minor optimisations |
| 23:59.38 | CIA-12 | - Will not count events with negative damage and healing |
