00:00.18 | Tek | I want to get rid of smartassist, I hate disabling everythding but the target logic everytime I make an alt |
00:00.22 | ckknight | if you have the same superclass, there is no issue at all |
00:00.41 | kergoth | i'm on it, just setting up tinypad and such, getting a wow development environment going, really :P |
00:00.56 | kergoth | its been ages since i worked on an actual addon |
00:01.02 | kergoth | probably back when i was hacking informatips |
00:01.32 | ckknight | hrm |
00:02.18 | Mikma | kergoth: tomorrow's gonna be a wild day for me ehhehe, i'm trying to learn the SavePosition and RestorePosition functions ;) |
00:03.32 | ckknight | yea, the issue is that you don't want to touch stuff that another lib is handling, but you want to update all your own stuff |
00:04.15 | ckknight | one hackish solution: |
00:04.32 | ckknight | on register, traverse the tree and keep a list of all tables associated with the lib |
00:04.48 | ckknight | weakly keyed and whatnot |
00:06.56 | kergoth | Mikma, have fun :) my knowledge of the wow api is so weak :( need to fix that |
00:07.17 | Mikma | kergoth: same goes with me :) |
00:07.48 | Mikma | kergoth: but after playing with the CreateFrame for a day i finally understood atleast that ;D |
00:08.15 | kergoth | hehe |
00:09.25 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/Bartender .. that's what i got done today, doesn't work nicely without TinyPad's scripts and needs the positionsaving but it's a start :D |
00:14.02 | Gngsk | looks good |
00:21.00 | kergoth | argh |
00:21.00 | Tain | I made some damn tasty dinner. Mmm mmm |
00:21.07 | kergoth | note to self: :w doesnt save in tinypad :P |
00:21.27 | Tain | hah sounds like you need to mod it kergoth |
00:21.50 | Tain | You know an in-game vim would go over well |
00:28.22 | kergoth | Mikma, looking good |
00:29.51 | Mikma | kergoth: notice how i did every frame by the easy way :P i tried the advanced ways too but they failed misserably |
00:36.36 | Mikma | haste: btw long lines will "break", something like Keeper Remulos in Moonglade, he has 89880 mana and it's stowing "89880/898..." on unitframe :) |
00:36.55 | Mikma | stowing yes! |
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00:39.44 | kergoth | opinions on handling breaking up of a single addon's chat options amongst multiple modules? whats cleanest? |
00:40.54 | ckknight | err |
00:41.42 | Thrae | kergoth: If it's ace, just table.insert your CHATCMD table. |
00:41.45 | Mikma | funny, lvl50 hunter asked me how did i get into Moonglade.. (i'm lvl10 druid) |
00:43.19 | kergoth | Thrae, i dont recall, do the elements need to be in the chat command table before doing a register for load? |
00:43.41 | Thrae | kergoth: Dunno, give it a try? |
00:43.57 | Kyahx | Mikma: tell him you learn a spell to teleport there at level 10 |
00:44.04 | Kyahx | :p |
00:44.18 | Mikma | well i did tell him "Teleport: Moonglade" and he asked "where is it?" |
00:44.52 | Thrae | Mikma: Tell him you get it from a scroll dropped randomly by Moonglade Wardens. |
00:45.06 | Mikma | Thrae: now that is a nice idea :D |
00:45.08 | Kyahx | ouu, thats a mean one |
00:46.28 | Thrae | Tell him it's BoE so that's how you got it, you bought it with your alt. |
00:46.43 | Thrae | Not BoE, it's not BoP like some of the scrolls out there. |
00:46.51 | haste | Mikma, no, that's intended atm |
00:47.00 | steino | omg haste is awake! |
00:47.00 | Tain | kergoth: if the main addon has registered for load you can insert chat commands for the "modules" before the module's register for load |
00:47.04 | steino | *points* |
00:47.09 | haste | I failed to fall a sleep :( |
00:47.15 | haste | I'm hungry, and my head hurts |
00:47.19 | steino | im bored |
00:47.27 | Thrae | kergoth: Can the modules be loaded before the main module? |
00:47.33 | Mikma | haste: ok, good to know :) |
00:48.05 | Mikma | haste: you should make a converter, larger numbers will be something like "89k/89k" ;) |
00:48.09 | haste | Mikma, I'm planning on auto-adjusting the length of the bars by how many numbers they have |
00:48.35 | kergoth | it annoys me that acechatcmd doesnt work independent of AceAddon. oh well |
00:48.52 | Thrae | I bet that's changed in Ace 2.0. |
00:50.45 | kergoth | ace 2.0 doesnt have any functional modules but acelibrary and aceoo, really. |
00:51.38 | kergoth | cladhaire, where's the new chat stuff you've been playing with? |
01:03.20 | ckknight | kergoth, woot. |
01:03.25 | ckknight | ;-) |
01:03.28 | ckknight | think I fixed the issue |
01:06.12 | kergoth | nice, how? |
01:06.41 | Thrae | ckknight, do both TabletLib and Dewdrop use tooltips as their main frames? |
01:06.49 | ckknight | neither do |
01:06.59 | ckknight | kergoth, it tracks what tables are part of what library |
01:08.04 | Thrae | Wait, so TabletLib provides a tooltip-style display, but it's not a tooltip? |
01:08.52 | ckknight | right. |
01:09.09 | ckknight | it's a Frame, not a GameTooltip |
01:11.01 | Thrae | ckknight: Tell me your secrets of frames containing only text. How do you make TabletLib scale properly? |
01:11.18 | ckknight | feel free to look at the code |
01:12.39 | Thrae | Wait...can you specify a width when adding text with TabletLib? |
01:12.52 | Thrae | IE, the point at which the text breaks and wraps. |
01:13.15 | ckknight | not to my knowledge |
01:13.19 | ckknight | but it could be easily set |
01:13.24 | ckknight | it's currently at 200 minimum |
01:13.34 | ckknight | but it grows to inf unless wrap is set |
01:14.06 | Thrae | You mean the frame itself has a default size of 200? |
01:14.38 | ckknight | far as I know |
01:14.48 | ckknight | well |
01:14.52 | ckknight | actually, that only applies if it wraps |
01:14.57 | ckknight | otherwise it's from like 20-inf |
01:15.12 | ckknight | if there's wrapping, pretty sure the minimum is either 100 or 200 |
01:15.26 | ckknight | 200 I think |
01:15.29 | Thrae | So you can specify the pixel width at which it should wrap? |
01:15.46 | ckknight | yea, but it's a local, at the top |
01:18.06 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2709 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: |
01:18.07 | CIA-17 | AceLibrary - now keeps track of what libraries handle which tables, thus preventing cross-library pollination. |
01:18.07 | CIA-17 | The side effect to this: register a Class with one superclass, then register a newer version with a different superclass, and it works now. |
01:18.17 | ckknight | man, this stuff is hard to track down |
01:20.12 | Tain | Wow there is some awesome, awesome shirts here. But a lot to go through. http://vbg.spreadshirt.com/ |
01:20.24 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2710 10AceLibrary/ (AceOO-LibraryClass-2.lua AceOO-LibraryClass-3.lua): AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceOO-LibraryClass-2.lua and AceOO-LibraryClass-3.lua |
01:23.36 | Thrae | Great, TabletLib gave me some ideas even though it doesn't seem you implemented exactly what I'm looking for...and the PTR is down. |
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01:24.13 | maia | can anyone with framce creation in lua help me with a problem? take a look at http://ace.pastebin.com/705394 and please tell me why I can't drag the frame at all. |
01:24.36 | maia | (make that: with knowledge in frame creation - I'm already tired) |
01:25.52 | ckknight | for one, don't have the top be SquishyFrame2 = , it's redundant |
01:25.57 | ckknight | that's what the second arg is for |
01:26.52 | maia | so if I do a f = CreateFrame(...), will I then reference the frame as f when creating a child frame? |
01:27.18 | ckknight | yea, that'd work |
01:27.24 | ckknight | but remember, locals are your friend |
01:27.37 | ckknight | I typically do local frame = CreateFrame(...) |
01:27.43 | ckknight | then manipulate with frame |
01:27.56 | maia | yeah, but how do you reference that frame lateron? |
01:28.11 | maia | aka do you then parent a child to frame or to its real name? |
01:28.25 | ckknight | they're the same |
01:28.35 | ckknight | I do to the frame |
01:28.54 | ckknight | many of the frames I use have no names |
01:28.59 | ckknight | and only exist in the local sphere |
01:29.29 | maia | okay, but that doesnt solve the problem of it not being movable at all |
01:30.01 | ckknight | um |
01:30.04 | ckknight | yea |
01:31.37 | ckknight | okay |
01:31.49 | ckknight | add an OnMouseDown event to the header, that prints out some text |
01:31.51 | ckknight | see if it works |
01:32.35 | maia | hrm. you know what? using local framenames helped. |
01:32.58 | maia | I can drag it. it's unresponsive, but its working |
01:33.18 | kergoth | argh, is the login server down again? |
01:33.21 | kergoth | oh, whew |
01:33.23 | kergoth | just took a while |
01:33.28 | ckknight | maia, hooray! |
01:33.50 | ckknight | so where do I go from here? |
01:33.51 | Thrae | I think doing local frame = CreateFrame("Frame", "SquishyFrame2", UIParent) will create a frame and put in the global SquishyFrame2, then assign a reference to that in local frame. |
01:34.17 | maia | now trying a b:RegisterForClicks("LeftButtonUp","LeftButtonDown") |
01:34.38 | Thrae | So I can see where trying to assign that to SquishyFrame2 made it explode. |
01:34.55 | maia | argh. back to: SquishyHeader2 doesn't have a "LeftButtonUp" script |
01:35.21 | maia | Thrae: so I should parent my children to the local names, not the global names? ah... |
01:35.46 | ckknight | maia, why are you doing RegisterForClicks? |
01:36.43 | Thrae | maia: The 'name' option is not needed unless you want it accessable from XML. |
01:36.49 | maia | ckknight: because StartMoving() on LeftMouseDown and StopMovingOrSizing() on up is more responsive |
01:37.08 | ckknight | so why not do SetScript("MouseButtonDown")? |
01:37.25 | maia | ckknight: because I havent heard about that possibility yet :) |
01:37.27 | ckknight | err |
01:37.31 | ckknight | OnMouseDown |
01:37.32 | ckknight | that's it |
01:37.36 | ckknight | and OnMouseUp |
01:37.38 | ckknight | it's shinier |
01:38.28 | Thrae | frame:RegisterForDrag(mousebuttons); frame:SetScript("OnDragStart", function(this) this:StartMoving() end ); frame:SetScript("OnDragStop", function(this) this:StopMoving() end ); |
01:39.23 | maia | Thrae: what I dislike about OnDragStart is that you have to move your mouse quite a bit before the frame starts moving with the mouse. |
01:39.44 | maia | this might be mac related though. but its definetly different than checking for mouse down/up |
01:39.53 | Thrae | Ah, I see. |
01:41.42 | maia | Thrae: I'm not sure about the 'name' you've been mentioning. Which part can I safely delete if I plan to delete all .xml? |
01:41.51 | maia | ckknight: and thanks for your help - it worked :) |
01:41.56 | maia | Thrae: http://ace.pastebin.com/705661 |
01:41.57 | ckknight | :-) |
01:42.16 | Thrae | CreateFrame(type,name,parent) |
01:42.29 | Thrae | I usually leave the second option nil. |
01:42.47 | maia | Thrae: but if the frame has no name, how do I ever do something like FrameName:Hide() from a different function? |
01:42.54 | Thrae | Actually on 1.11 it is now CreateFrame(type,name,parent,inheritedframe) |
01:43.35 | Thrae | maia: Well then you have a choice. Either give it a name or store the frame locally to the file. |
01:43.37 | ckknight | maia, you save the local somewhere |
01:43.44 | kergoth | maia, you dont need a global to keep around a reference to an object. use a local. use a member of your existing table. whatever. |
01:44.22 | Thrae | Giving the second option, name, creates a global with that name. Usually you don't need this, unless you are referencing the object from XML. |
01:45.05 | maia | well, but if I'd replace the name with something like self.frames.Main it's still a name and not nil in the CreateFrame() function |
01:45.13 | kergoth | this energy drink is called "Big Ol' can of Whoop Ass". so i just opened a can of whoop ass. |
01:45.23 | kergoth | maia, hm? |
01:45.32 | maia | its just a CreateFrame("Frame", self.frames.Main, UIParent) instead, right? |
01:45.35 | kergoth | no. |
01:45.44 | kergoth | local foo = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) |
01:45.47 | kergoth | self.frames.Main = foo |
01:45.48 | kergoth | ta da |
01:45.57 | kergoth | the name argument _creates a global_ |
01:46.01 | kergoth | self.frames.Main isnt a global. |
01:46.09 | maia | aaaah! |
01:46.10 | kergoth | it isnt even a string, which name has to be |
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01:48.04 | maia | maybe I just shouldnt try to code at 4am. |
01:48.26 | ckknight | maia, coding is best done in 24-36 hour chunks |
01:49.49 | maia | okay, so I'll catch some sleep and continue my work tomorrow. ;) |
01:50.22 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2711 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - changed local positions to be a member of the AceLibrary table. |
01:50.48 | ckknight | maia, good plan |
01:53.24 | maia | oh, last question: if my frames don't have a global name but are attached to my table, it's not that easy to reference it from outside the addon, right? |
01:53.48 | ckknight | well, you can just get them through your table |
01:53.59 | Mikma | ~C'thun |
01:54.01 | purl | *** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - Pleasure! *** |
01:54.08 | ckknight | lol. |
01:54.12 | ckknight | ~moredots |
01:54.14 | purl | more dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots! |
01:54.24 | maia | cant remember ever having seen a frame with such a name |
01:54.30 | Mikma | ~50dkp |
01:54.48 | Mikma | oh it wasn't that then |
01:55.08 | ckknight | ~moredots |
01:55.09 | purl | hit it like you mean it! |
01:55.15 | maia | it's also ChatFrame1ResizeTop, not ChatFrames[1].ResizeHandler["Top"] |
01:55.22 | ckknight | ~moredots |
01:55.24 | purl | 50 dkp minus! |
01:55.24 | Mikma | but i still like that "incoming tentacle rape party - pleasure!" |
01:55.27 | Mikma | it's.. awesome :D |
01:55.42 | Thrae | maia: It's probably safe to call it "SquishyFrame2", but we try not to pollute the global namespace as much as possible. |
01:56.07 | Mikma | hmm i had an interesting issue when i played with CreateFrame |
01:56.11 | Thrae | Coding the Ace Way(tm) means trying to do the right thing even if it's trivial! |
01:56.40 | maia | Thrae: yeah, I know - just wondering how people would be able to mess with frames without global name via Visor, MoveAnything etc. |
01:56.57 | Mikma | if i used: local foo = CreateFrame("Frame",nil,UIParent) .. it didn't work for some reason. i wasn't able to use it |
01:57.06 | Mikma | after removing the local it worked fine |
01:57.11 | ckknight | ? |
01:57.20 | Thrae | Mikma: Works fine for me... |
01:57.20 | ckknight | you did it wrong, then, Mikma |
01:57.38 | Mikma | ckknight: i know, that's why i tried to explain it |
01:57.45 | Thrae | Mikma: Did you do local foo = CreateFrame() inside of a function and then try to use that frame outside of the function? |
01:57.57 | ckknight | or if statement |
01:58.02 | Mikma | Thrae: yes, that's baaad? |
01:58.08 | ckknight | very. |
01:58.19 | Mikma | well hmm |
01:58.25 | ckknight | locals exist _only_ within the blocks they are declared |
01:58.31 | ckknight | which is why they're so awesome |
01:58.43 | Thrae | maia: They probably won't be able to, but if your frame already has movable options, who cares? |
01:58.44 | Mikma | ok that explained a whole lot to me |
01:59.02 | Thrae | Mikma: Do you know any languages besides Lua? |
01:59.05 | Mikma | the only thing i'm wondering now is how can i make the frames without having them in function |
01:59.05 | maia | Thrae: someone might want to remove the border,... I dont know. :) |
01:59.12 | ckknight | Mikma, I'll show you: |
01:59.27 | Mikma | Thrae: (joking: well yes, finnish and english) .. nope |
01:59.28 | ckknight | local frame; function monkey() frame = CreateFrame("Frame") end; print(frame) |
01:59.54 | Thrae | maia: They can ask you for the feature ;) |
02:00.09 | ckknight | maia, yea, what Thrae said |
02:00.22 | Mikma | ckknight: gotta copypaste that down and try it tomorrow |
02:00.25 | maia | Thrae: there's always more people asking for features than features you could ever add. ;p |
02:00.29 | ckknight | I have an innate fear and contempt for the user |
02:00.41 | Thrae | maia: Actually, wait. Visor and MoveAnything use GetChildren() on UIParent, so your frame will still be referenced there, it just won't have a name. |
02:00.43 | ckknight | I do not feel like they are going to do the right thing |
02:01.03 | ckknight | Thrae, it still needs a name to reference from |
02:01.09 | ckknight | to get the right one |
02:01.23 | ckknight | you can also enumerate the frames. |
02:01.49 | maia | Thrae: okay. I need to convert all the bars yet anyway, so it'll take a few more days until I have to make that decision. good night everyone, and thanks for your help. |
02:02.29 | Mikma | ckknight: with that codepiece, am i still able to use the frame outside the function? |
02:02.34 | ckknight | yep. |
02:02.44 | ckknight | note that print was outside the function/ |
02:04.04 | ckknight | local frame declares the scope of frame |
02:04.17 | ckknight | the frame was assigned in the function, not declared |
02:05.31 | Mikma | god damn i just found out a bug in MAMi, but doesn't matter after all it's going to be fixed in Bartender. ActionBars won't swap when shapeshifting :( |
02:06.31 | ckknight | hrm |
02:08.11 | kergoth | Mikma, read PIL |
02:08.21 | kergoth | heh |
02:08.38 | kergoth | i wish a reload got .toc updates |
02:08.46 | kergoth | restarting wow is annoying |
02:09.52 | Mikma | kergoth: drink milk :D |
02:12.28 | ckknight | ? |
02:12.37 | ckknight | milk has some freaky shit in it |
02:12.57 | Tain | Yeah like kaluah |
02:12.59 | Mikma | sure it has, it has come for a cows tit |
02:13.10 | Mikma | from* |
02:13.26 | kergoth | i cant drink milk much anymore. stopped drinking it for a while, now it fucks with my stomach. makes sense though, that shit's designed for babies, not adults |
02:15.51 | ckknight | no, kergoth, no it's not |
02:16.01 | ckknight | human milk is for humans |
02:16.05 | ckknight | cow milk is for cows |
02:16.32 | ckknight | plus, there's shitload of hormones and unnatural proteins in there |
02:16.59 | ckknight | I used to have _horrible_ _horrible_ acne |
02:17.04 | ckknight | worst in the entire school, even |
02:17.21 | ckknight | after I stopped drinking milk, in about a month, it went away |
02:17.27 | ckknight | all of it |
02:17.32 | Mikma | you switched to beer? :D |
02:17.47 | ckknight | no, I have the eating habits of a Mormon |
02:17.54 | ckknight | no drugs, alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, etc. |
02:18.20 | Mikma | now that's interesting. may i ask why? if so, why? :) |
02:19.05 | Gngsk | anyone know off the top of their head who wrote the BigWig C'thun mod? |
02:19.26 | kergoth | gah, used the wrong command.. hmmm |
02:19.47 | ckknight | part of it is a spiritual thing, I don't need those things to fulfill myself, plus, I'm healthier without it |
02:19.55 | ckknight | Only abuse those things on special occasions |
02:19.57 | ckknight | like weddings |
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02:20.16 | Mikma | well i myself like to drink like 3 times in a year |
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02:20.21 | ckknight | I know I'm gonna get smashed and end up in bed with someone I had just met when my brother gets married in August |
02:20.22 | Gngsk | nvm, checked the svn log myself |
02:20.27 | CIA-17 | 03kergoth * r2712 10MicroAssist/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
02:20.27 | CIA-17 | Figuring out the API/behavior of an element. Currently have a 'class' element. |
02:20.27 | CIA-17 | Next: adding the default weighting factor for the element, then adding |
02:20.27 | CIA-17 | commandline options to change weighting factors, then the actual metrognome |
02:20.27 | CIA-17 | ticker to calculate the weights of the units. |
02:20.38 | Kaelten | finnally back! |
02:20.43 | ckknight | hey Kaelten |
02:20.51 | ckknight | Kaelten, where do I go from here? |
02:21.11 | ckknight | and/or should we make a roadmap for Ace2? |
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02:41.00 | kergoth | warmup says the world entry was 12 seconds, and the total time was -128 seconds |
02:41.01 | kergoth | hehe |
02:47.34 | kergoth | buttonhole rocks when you arent using a minimap, or are using a square one. definately need to give it an api thats less crappy and clean it up |
02:48.04 | cladhaire | kergoth: its in Acechatcmd in the libraries |
02:48.23 | Tek | ckk: dewdrop editboxes, kickass! |
02:48.25 | ckknight | night, clad|sleep |
02:48.36 | ckknight | Tek, they're ugly, find a way to make them less ugly |
02:48.37 | Tek | yes, I'm slow, been busy lately |
02:49.06 | Tek | yea I know... hrm... can we nix the editbox border somehow and just have the dd broder? |
02:50.36 | ckknight | maybe |
02:50.46 | ckknight | but then it doesn't look there's anything there but the blinking cursor |
02:50.51 | Tek | man, this is gonna make putting slash commands into menus soooo frickin easy :) |
02:51.20 | Tek | yea, but I think it'd look better than the doubleborder |
02:51.55 | Tek | or maybe drop the editbox border and instead have a simple underline |
02:52.00 | ckknight | hrm |
02:52.03 | ckknight | that could work. |
02:52.15 | Tek | like [ Fill in the blank > ] [ ___________ ] |
02:53.33 | ckknight | yep |
02:53.46 | ckknight | maybe having it have a > sign would be a good idea |
02:54.42 | Tek | hrm... maybe drop the "arrow" in the main menu for some sort of "this is text input" icon |
02:54.52 | Tek | like how color swatches have the box |
02:56.31 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r2713 10/branches/FuBar_FriendsFu/FriendsFu.lua: |
02:56.31 | CIA-17 | FuBar_FriendsFu (Tekkub's branch) |
02:56.31 | CIA-17 | - Added editbox menu for adding new friends by name. |
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03:18.39 | ckknight | hrm |
03:18.49 | ckknight | then I'd want to have a slider one as well? |
03:21.12 | clad|sleep | Tek: Did you work on the table structure to add to ACC yet? |
03:22.01 | Wobin | damn. Needy users =P |
03:30.39 | CIA-17 | 03cladhaire 07Unstable * r2714 10Clique/Clique/Clique.lua: Clique: Added some calls to Clique:BuildActionTable() in response to edit functions |
03:39.49 | Tek | oro? |
03:40.45 | Tek | oh, no clad |
03:41.04 | clad|sleep | huh? |
03:41.08 | clad|sleep | oh |
03:41.09 | clad|sleep | okay |
03:41.11 | clad|sleep | lol |
03:41.16 | Tek | it'll probably be somethin I add to ACC after the fact |
03:41.19 | clad|sleep | i'm headed to bed, email me or post if you need me for anything |
03:41.21 | clad|sleep | *nod* cool |
03:41.24 | Tek | since we can tweak it bit by bit |
03:41.26 | clad|sleep | Tek: wouldn't hurt to map the elements out now. |
03:41.39 | Tek | if I get the time |
03:41.52 | Tek | trying to get my tranqshot mod started |
03:42.02 | Tek | since I know how to do CTRA chatter now |
03:42.15 | Tek | I want to get it going and I need to test in MC tomorrow |
03:43.27 | Mikma | is there any good Druid-debuff timers? |
03:43.33 | Mikma | like Aced CountMoon |
03:44.12 | Wobin | but that doesn't preclude you from writing one! |
03:45.33 | Wobin | huh |
03:45.37 | Wobin | fubar toggle for MrPlow |
03:45.40 | Wobin | I guess |
03:45.53 | Wobin | I should go and learn how to make one, anyway =P |
03:47.42 | Mikma | haste: Combo-points? :) |
03:47.57 | Wobin | Mikma: That's what gonffbar is for =P |
03:48.22 | Mikma | Wobin: i know, my GF just installed it |
03:48.34 | Mikma | but i wanna have haste's comment about it ;) |
03:48.41 | Wobin | Although, let me know if your gonffbar is having issues saving settings |
03:48.53 | Wobin | I have a couple of users which I can't figure out whiy they're not |
03:49.27 | Mikma | well, she only moved the bar so we shall see |
03:49.43 | Wobin | ckknight: Is there anything that should change about the FuBar_ExampleFu-1.2 template in light of any recent changes? |
03:50.00 | ckknight | don't think so |
03:50.03 | ckknight | who's to say, though |
03:50.56 | Wobin | -- this is run when the user types /bpex report |
03:50.58 | Wobin | hehe |
03:55.56 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2715 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon.lua AceOO.lua): |
03:55.56 | CIA-17 | AceOO - Mixins no longer fail if the superclass has the same mixin. |
03:55.56 | CIA-17 | It still fails if you specify the same mixin twice in one class declaration. |
03:56.15 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2716 10AceLibrary/ (AceOO-MixinInheritance-2.lua AceOO-MixinInheritance-3.lua): AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceOO-MixinInheritance-2.lua and AceOO-MixinInheritance-3.lua |
03:59.22 | Tek | kergy, you're not prefixing your commits *rulerslap* |
04:00.57 | kergoth | OW |
04:01.00 | kergoth | er, ow |
04:06.29 | Wobin | Tek used the ruler. WITH EMBEDDED RAZOR BLADES |
04:14.56 | Mikma | i found a cooldown-addon |
04:15.10 | Mikma | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,440.0.html |
04:16.04 | kergoth | thats for timers for spells, not cooldowns, afaik |
04:16.25 | Mikma | well anyways, something like that |
04:16.58 | Mikma | i kinda dislike the timex-thing but it's almost completely based on timex-bars :P |
04:19.41 | Wobin | heeh |
04:20.11 | Wobin | We need it to use otravi's castingbar textures =) |
04:20.27 | Mikma | and metrognome! |
04:20.41 | Wobin | hm yeah |
04:20.48 | Wobin | Since there'll be more than one bar |
04:21.26 | Wobin | neither GB or OCB use metrognome, but that's only cause we use onupdate for a single bar |
04:21.40 | Wobin | and it's just as easy to figure it out normally |
04:21.45 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2561 |
04:22.35 | Mikma | i like the bars more than plain icons |
04:24.11 | Wobin | I guess as a fubar plugin, I can assume all the libraries are there |
04:24.22 | Wobin | (dewdrop et al) |
04:34.07 | ckknight | yes |
04:34.17 | ckknight | dewdrop, tablet, metrognome, compost |
04:34.23 | ckknight | that's what all plugins will need |
04:34.55 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/ss1.jpg |
04:36.41 | Mikma | i really like this mac-feature on EmoteFu :D |
04:36.57 | Mikma | it's "EmoteF" on almost every screenshot i have taken |
04:37.01 | Tek | I think that should be name EmoFu :) |
04:37.16 | Tek | "that's so EmoFu" |
04:37.32 | Tek | okey, time for food, alchy, Colbert and then sleep |
04:37.59 | sedatedChipmunk | ff, time for sleep |
04:38.05 | sedatedChipmunk | s/ff/pff/ |
04:42.26 | Mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/site.pl/selain/?c=aidantakaa&i=457 |
04:46.11 | Wobin | That url plainly has far too many vowels |
04:47.26 | Kyahx | Im going to have to concur |
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04:59.27 | ckknight | API advice, people: if you call self:UnregisterEvent(event) and you aren't registered to the event, should it error or silently fail? (Ace2) |
05:00.02 | Wobin | silently fail |
05:00.20 | Wobin | or perhaps a debug message |
05:00.32 | Wobin | but not terminate any process |
05:01.25 | ckknight | gonna make it silently fail, I guess |
05:02.44 | Kyahx | I'd say pop out a debug warning. Let authors know what they are doing wrong, but not cause anything to break. |
05:03.22 | ckknight | alternatively, I could have a DEBUG = true thing at the top |
05:03.46 | ckknight | then have it either silently fail on DEBUG = false or pop an error on DEBUG = true |
05:04.34 | Kyahx | that would be my preferance |
05:07.02 | ckknight | and done |
05:07.23 | ckknight | note: it does fire errors if you mess up arguments, even without DEBUG being set |
05:07.28 | ckknight | so you can't self:RegisterEvent(42) |
05:08.02 | Kyahx | Im asumeing (hopeing) all the new AceDebug stuff is going to be integrated into the Ace core moduals |
05:09.30 | ckknight | um |
05:09.33 | ckknight | well |
05:09.36 | Kyahx | heh |
05:09.39 | ckknight | depends on what you mean by core |
05:09.40 | ckknight | really |
05:09.48 | ckknight | cause it's kinda...splattered |
05:09.53 | Kyahx | I have no idea how Ace 2 is designed really, so, yea =P |
05:09.55 | Kyahx | ignore me |
05:10.06 | ckknight | basically, if you want AceDebug capabilities: |
05:10.17 | ckknight | local addon = Class("AceAddon-2.0", "AceDebug-2.0") |
05:10.23 | Kyahx | easy enough |
05:10.29 | ckknight | probably. |
05:10.34 | Wobin | yeah |
05:11.41 | Kyahx | so if everything is imbeded, does that mean I am going to have 50 copies of Ace2 in my addons folder? |
05:11.52 | ckknight | yes. |
05:12.22 | kergoth | Kyahx, but only one is ever resident in ram. |
05:12.30 | ckknight | which is very shiny. |
05:12.41 | ckknight | you'll only ever have one AceLibrary or one AceOO |
05:12.43 | ckknight | never 2 |
05:12.45 | Kyahx | Yea, I get that |
05:13.08 | Wobin | You could actually delete most of them |
05:13.14 | Wobin | making one addon a dependancy =P |
05:13.22 | ckknight | right, Wobin |
05:13.22 | Wobin | as long as it loaded first |
05:13.27 | Kyahx | eh, too much work |
05:13.35 | ckknight | well, all addons should put in OptionalDeps: Ace2 |
05:14.30 | ckknight | so that if you download the Ace2 package, it'd load first |
05:14.39 | ckknight | granted, there likely won't be any real advantage :-P |
05:14.45 | Kyahx | thats not going to affect load times at all will it? |
05:14.55 | Kyahx | running that stub code that many times |
05:15.01 | ckknight | it doesn't run the stub code. |
05:15.14 | Kyahx | for the embededs? |
05:15.31 | ckknight | it runs: if not AceLibrary:IsNewVersion(MAJOR_VERSION, MINOR_VERSION) then return end |
05:15.40 | Kyahx | ah |
05:15.46 | ckknight | :-) |
05:15.51 | Kyahx | so all it does is compare a variable |
05:16.07 | ckknight | right. |
05:16.07 | Kyahx | relativly no work at all :P |
05:16.13 | ckknight | practically none |
05:16.21 | ckknight | you may gain 0.003 seconds |
05:16.23 | ckknight | or something |
05:16.31 | ckknight | and I know, it's tragic |
05:16.35 | Wobin | blink and you'll miss it =P |
05:16.37 | Kyahx | gasp! |
05:16.43 | Kyahx | thats quick enough for a rogue to gank me! |
05:16.44 | ckknight | but it's the best we can do thus far |
05:16.46 | Kyahx | DEATH TO ACE2 |
05:16.48 | ckknight | oh noes! |
05:16.58 | Wobin | Tragedy! Duhndundundundundundund It's a Tragedy! |
05:17.04 | Kyahx | People will go on an emeded strike isntead of a dependecy strike =P |
05:17.10 | ckknight | AceEvent-2.0 was really easy to write |
05:17.11 | ckknight | hrm |
05:17.12 | Wobin | Pity I can't recall any more of the words =P |
05:17.18 | Kyahx | "oh man, that mod uses embededs, stay away!" |
05:17.26 | Wobin | hehe |
05:17.42 | ckknight | Kyahx, I sure hope to hell people don't get that attitude in their heads |
05:18.04 | Kyahx | Wobin, your probley a good person to ask. How hard is splitting stacks of items and moveing crap around in the inventory |
05:18.06 | Wobin | Well they can't really spread FUD anymore, since the majority of the major coders have embraced it |
05:18.21 | Kyahx | Im working on the bank mode of FreeRefills, trying to think of where to start |
05:18.33 | Wobin | not too hard... |
05:18.43 | Wobin | one sec |
05:19.05 | Kyahx | I know Mr. Plow uses metrognome for something, is that something I want to be doing? |
05:19.20 | Wobin | SplitContainerItem(from[1], from[2], from[3] |
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05:19.41 | Wobin | MrPlow only really uses Metrognome for safety sake |
05:19.42 | ckknight_ | grr |
05:19.52 | ckknight_ | is there more args than arg3? |
05:19.56 | ckknight_ | in events, that is |
05:20.04 | Wobin | yeah, up to arg9 I think |
05:20.08 | ckknight_ | okay |
05:20.17 | Kyahx | so worst-case-scenario an item dosent get "looted" from the bank due to lag? |
05:20.49 | ckknight_ | I'm having AceEvent's frame just do a :TriggerEvent(event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9) |
05:20.50 | Wobin | There's a limitation that you can't move an item into the same spot twice in the same tick |
05:21.01 | ckknight_ | cause it seems just so simple to make everything streamlined that way. |
05:21.10 | Wobin | or something similar... have a look at the API on Wowwiki |
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05:21.33 | Jarenthal | Litestep has a Lua scripting module. |
05:21.33 | ckknight_ | so addons will be able to call them what they want (instead of sticking to arg1..9) |
05:21.38 | Jarenthal | I didn't know that. |
05:21.59 | Wobin | But really, chances are that there will never get so low a latency that the issue ever takes place |
05:22.29 | ckknight | oh, it'll also accept arbitrary functions in RegisterEvent |
05:22.32 | ckknight | :-) |
05:22.46 | Wobin | arbitary? |
05:23.20 | ckknight | self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM", function(text) print("system text: " .. text) end) |
05:24.09 | ckknight | instead of just a method |
05:26.01 | Wobin | nice |
05:29.25 | ckknight | expect these fun features and more! |
05:30.15 | ckknight | ;-) |
05:33.04 | kergoth | this soda tastes exactly like vanilla ice cream |
05:33.19 | Kyahx | which soda? |
05:33.35 | Kyahx | "Vanilla Ice Cream Soda" |
05:34.14 | kergoth | vanilla cream from Waialua, a hawaiian company. most vanilla flavored cream sodas taste just like cream soda, but with hints of vanilla. this is quite different |
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05:42.23 | ckknight | Waialua is a place, not a company, afaik |
05:42.39 | ckknight | it's over on the east side |
05:45.21 | Wobin | The company probably took the name from the location. Waialua Drink Co or something =P |
05:45.31 | kergoth | indeed, waialua soda works |
05:45.38 | ckknight | ah, okay |
05:45.40 | ckknight | yea |
05:45.48 | ckknight | that probably exists |
05:45.59 | ckknight | haven't heard of it, thouh |
05:46.01 | ckknight | though* |
05:46.56 | Kyahx | Wobin: when I split a stack, does the number I specifiy stay in that bag/slot, or do the leftovers stay in that slot. |
05:47.32 | ckknight | hrm |
05:47.33 | Wobin | I think the number you specify gets put onto the cursor |
05:47.40 | Wobin | So, leftovers |
05:47.47 | Wobin | But check the API |
05:47.55 | Kyahx | no details for it |
05:48.00 | ckknight | one nice thing about the mixin deal is that I can have a class that inherits from AceEvent without inheriting from AceAddon |
05:48.05 | Kyahx | if the amount I want gets dropped on the cursor, thats awesome |
05:48.07 | ckknight | or having AceAddon exist at all |
05:48.30 | Wobin | no?! |
05:48.34 | Wobin | funny that =\ |
05:48.44 | Wobin | Oh |
05:48.50 | Wobin | I picked up that function from FrameXML =P |
05:48.52 | Wobin | Probably |
05:49.54 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2718 10AceLibrary/AceEvent.lua: AceEvent - initial commit. |
05:50.42 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2719 10AceLibrary/ (4 files): AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceEvent-1.lua and FakeWoW.lua |
05:55.56 | Wobin | okay |
05:56.35 | Wobin | I need a nice icon for the MrPlowFu plugin. Maybe a small cartoon snowplow or something (if it could even be recognisable at that size...) |
05:56.52 | Kyahx | bulldozer? |
05:57.01 | ckknight | show a pile of snow |
05:58.10 | Cairenn | http://images.google.ca/images?q=plow%20icon&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi |
05:58.31 | Kyahx | http://www.iconarchive.com/icon/objects/copland3_by_iconfactory/Bulldozer.gif |
05:58.50 | Cairenn | nice one Kyahx |
05:58.59 | ckknight | omg, Cairenn's canadian! |
05:59.02 | Kyahx | I try =) |
05:59.13 | Cairenn | not news ckknight, we've had this conversation before ;) |
05:59.18 | ckknight | I know |
05:59.20 | ckknight | it's funny |
05:59.23 | Wobin | I <3 you Kyahx =) |
05:59.23 | Cairenn | lol |
05:59.30 | Kyahx | =) |
05:59.34 | ckknight | my mum still has a very Canadian accent |
06:00.18 | Kyahx | I want to use this for something: |
06:00.18 | Kyahx | http://www.iconarchive.com/icon/objects/copland3_by_iconfactory/Milk.gif |
06:00.29 | Wobin | ckknight: What format does the icon have to be in (and size?) |
06:00.35 | ckknight | tga or blp |
06:00.40 | ckknight | recommended 32x32 |
06:00.48 | Kyahx | (that image is 32x32 BTW) |
06:00.49 | ckknight | but it can be any (2^n)x(2^n) |
06:01.19 | Kyahx | have to convert it to TGA thou |
06:01.23 | ckknight | yea |
06:01.35 | ckknight | GIMP ftw |
06:01.36 | Kyahx | hmmm |
06:01.44 | Kyahx | I should look into that, I need a good TGA maker |
06:01.53 | Wobin | GIMP is really good |
06:01.56 | ckknight | or ImageMagick |
06:02.02 | ckknight | nice convert tool |
06:02.05 | Wobin | Now if only I could set it to load all images to the one instance |
06:02.16 | Wobin | rather than load up everything in a new one |
06:03.05 | Kyahx | actually, that website is a goldmine |
06:03.12 | Kyahx | tons of free 32x32 icons |
06:03.19 | Wobin | I was so bookmarking it =) |
06:04.15 | Wobin | I wonder why firefox is always so laggy when you try to save something |
06:04.36 | ckknight | yea, I wonder why, too |
06:05.40 | haste | ugh, hate waking up, checking my IRC, see someone has highlighted me, but I don't have a highlight log on this IRC client :( |
06:05.56 | ckknight | hrm |
06:06.02 | ckknight | what you using? |
06:06.33 | haste | usually irssi, but I installed X-Chat on my laptop for now |
06:06.42 | ckknight | X-Chat has a log |
06:07.01 | haste | PAM died on my server, so I have to create a livecd and chroot it to fix it :( |
06:07.45 | ckknight | damn |
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06:21.54 | ckknight | hey Elkano |
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06:22.40 | ckknight | hey snurre, MoonWolf |
06:22.57 | snurre | good morning |
06:23.16 | ckknight | ~moredots |
06:23.24 | purl | 50 dkp minus! |
06:23.40 | ckknight | that's what you get, snurre |
06:25.10 | MoonWolf | your sleep cycle amazes me. |
06:25.14 | MoonWolf | morning btw. |
06:25.24 | ckknight | especially since it's like 8 PM for me |
06:26.03 | MoonWolf | its more the appernt lack of sleeping in the sleep cycle |
06:26.14 | ckknight | I slept like 7 hours today |
06:26.28 | MoonWolf | k |
06:27.33 | snurre | i slept <5 :( |
06:28.03 | MoonWolf | i slept from 0:20 to 6 |
06:28.14 | MoonWolf | well was in bed for that time anyway |
06:28.22 | MoonWolf | i dont sleep well when its hot. |
06:29.10 | ckknight | I make sure to focus my sleep to be as efficient as possible |
06:32.04 | snurre | had to get up early to migrate my chars :p |
06:32.08 | snurre | before work |
06:32.27 | snurre | too bad a 22 shaman has stolen my nick there, so I had to rename my warr :( |
06:32.36 | Wobin | bastard |
06:32.36 | ckknight | hrm |
06:32.49 | snurre | Capnaggro is cool enough tho :p |
06:34.16 | Elkano | any chance on patchday in US? |
06:34.24 | MoonWolf | i doubt it. |
06:34.37 | MoonWolf | hoping for next week. |
06:34.40 | Wobin | it's a nonpatch day |
06:34.42 | Wobin | definitely |
06:34.47 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
06:34.49 | snurre | that fucking sucks |
06:35.11 | ckknight | wonder if I can push out a beta of Ace2 by patch day |
06:35.33 | snurre | i want my updated equip damnit :( |
06:35.48 | snurre | (even though, the load at work is gonna suck ass) |
06:36.15 | snurre | i can't go home for a class reunion the first week in june cause of the damn patch :( |
06:36.30 | Elkano | ok, no US patch day today -> no EU patch day tomorrow :) good since I wouldn't have been there to fix my addons :) |
06:37.20 | ckknight | lol |
06:37.28 | CIA-17 | 03wobin * r2720 10FuBar_MrPlowFu/ (5 files): FuBar_MrPlowFu - Initial import |
06:37.32 | MoonWolf | not much breaking this patch anyway |
06:38.48 | Kyahx | hmmm, what does this mean: |
06:38.50 | Kyahx | Core.lua:173: attempt to compare number with boolean |
06:39.09 | ckknight | 1 < true |
06:39.14 | Kyahx | ah |
06:39.21 | Kyahx | so tonumber(variable) |
06:39.32 | ckknight | what's the line? |
06:39.48 | Kyahx | if not slotCount > amountNeeded then |
06:39.57 | Wobin | yeah |
06:40.06 | ckknight | oh |
06:40.06 | Kyahx | amountNeeded is passed into the function |
06:40.08 | Wobin | Your string.find returns a string |
06:40.10 | ckknight | I know your issue |
06:40.15 | Wobin | rather than an integer |
06:40.19 | ckknight | if (not slotCount) > amountNeeded then |
06:40.36 | ckknight | use if slotCount <= amountNeeded then |
06:40.43 | Kyahx | k |
06:41.14 | Elkano | ckknight, I had a strange bug with FuBar yesterday: some of the addons locked up their bar texts :/ eg the clock wasn't unpdated on the bar any longer but it's tooltip still showed the correct time |
06:41.23 | ckknight | Elkano, hrm |
06:41.23 | Kyahx | Core.lua:173: attempt to compare boolean with number |
06:41.30 | Kyahx | error reversed |
06:41.48 | ckknight | Kyahx, you don't have not in there, do you? |
06:42.05 | Kyahx | =X |
06:42.10 | Kyahx | my bad, one sec |
06:42.19 | Wobin | ckknight: For uploading MRPlowFu, I'll have to go through the FuBar entry and 'upload plugin'? |
06:42.34 | ckknight | yes. |
06:42.43 | Wobin | er 'upload Add-on' |
06:43.00 | ckknight | yea |
06:43.07 | Elkano | but maybe it was because of ArcHUD... I updated to it's latest svn version and it totaly screwed up... so maybe FuBar was affected somehow, too |
06:43.23 | ckknight | could be |
06:47.21 | Elkano | thinking about it, it wasn't the only thing that was screwed up :/ |
06:48.07 | Kyahx | ckknight: that fixed the logic, however apparently PutItemInBackpack() truely only covers the backpack an nothing more =( |
06:48.24 | ckknight | yep |
06:48.30 | ckknight | PutItemInBag(x) |
06:49.07 | Kyahx | bah, gotta find the number then |
06:49.19 | Kyahx | hmm, what about UseContainerItem |
06:50.33 | Kyahx | ha, that worked |
06:50.44 | Kyahx | UseContainerItem on a bank slot grabs it =P |
06:52.46 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
06:52.49 | Industrial | stupid computers |
06:52.51 | Industrial | laptop broke |
06:52.53 | Industrial | :E |
06:53.01 | Kyahx | but, it wont work for splitting stacks =( |
06:53.03 | Kyahx | bah |
06:53.08 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/linux/vim/vim-settings-060215.zip |
06:53.09 | Industrial | \o/ |
06:53.14 | MoonWolf | cheater. |
06:53.19 | ckknight | Kyahx, I've split stacks |
06:53.41 | Kyahx | yea, I just need to find an empty spot / partial stack to drop the item onto |
06:54.09 | ckknight | SplitContainerItem(i,j,1) |
06:54.27 | Industrial | MoonWolf: get a stack of fish, destack them into every slot, turn on the fishing bot - get 20 stacks |
06:54.33 | Industrial | :E |
06:54.40 | MoonWolf | .... |
06:54.47 | MoonWolf | thats cheating too. |
06:54.47 | Industrial | keeps the crap fish out of the inventory |
06:54.57 | ckknight | for slot = 1, GetContainerNumSlots(bag) do if not GetContainerItemLink(bag, slot) then return true end end |
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06:55.47 | ckknight | CIA-12? |
06:56.04 | ckknight | I miss CIA-17 |
06:56.06 | ckknight | he was fun |
06:56.13 | CIA-12 | ow |
06:56.15 | MoonWolf | yay |
06:56.19 | ckknight | yay |
06:56.22 | Kyahx | lol |
06:57.44 | *** topic/#wowace by MoonWolf -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | http://www.lua.org/pil <-- READ IT | Well, ain't that cute. BUT IT'S WRONG! |
06:57.52 | ckknight | ? |
06:58.06 | MoonWolf | nobody gets the qoute ? |
06:58.07 | MoonWolf | :( |
06:58.21 | ckknight | nope |
06:58.34 | Elkano | nope |
06:58.47 | MoonWolf | Cow and chicken. |
06:59.02 | ckknight | good show |
06:59.08 | ckknight | little childish, though |
06:59.29 | Industrial | I liked dexter more |
06:59.30 | Industrial | :E |
06:59.35 | ckknight | same |
07:00.00 | Industrial | You know what would be funny |
07:00.05 | Elkano | "Mama had a chicken, mama had a cow. Dad was proud. He didn't care how..." |
07:00.06 | Industrial | a macro program that uses LUA |
07:00.12 | Industrial | so you use lua to cheat |
07:00.14 | Industrial | xD |
07:00.19 | MoonWolf | eeeuh |
07:00.20 | MoonWolf | suuure |
07:00.38 | ckknight | macro program? |
07:00.38 | Industrial | dum dum dum dum dum cow and chicken! |
07:00.57 | Industrial | ckknight: yeah like, one that can scan for color ranges |
07:01.12 | Elkano | btw: would it be possible to implement a neuronal network via WoW's lua that would 'suggest' correct actions? |
07:01.28 | ckknight | Industrial, ah |
07:01.39 | ckknight | Elkano, theoretically |
07:02.15 | MoonWolf | not very efficient |
07:02.18 | MoonWolf | or usefull |
07:02.22 | MoonWolf | in the context of wow. |
07:02.29 | ckknight | right. |
07:04.32 | Wobin | hm |
07:04.40 | Wobin | Advice |
07:04.51 | ckknight | hit me |
07:04.53 | Wobin | With my MrPlowFubar plugin, I'm putting in all the settings |
07:05.05 | ckknight | k |
07:05.06 | Wobin | So it'll show what's being ignored and all |
07:05.14 | Wobin | So far it's like |
07:05.17 | Wobin | Ignoring bags: |
07:05.18 | Wobin | 1 |
07:05.18 | Wobin | 2 |
07:05.18 | Wobin | 3 |
07:05.27 | Wobin | Should clicking on those numbers unignore? |
07:05.40 | ckknight | checkboxes |
07:05.42 | Wobin | Or should they explicitly enter in what numbers to unignore |
07:05.53 | ckknight | click the numbers |
07:05.58 | Wobin | hm |
07:05.58 | ckknight | and have it be a submenu |
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07:06.12 | Wobin | That could work for the bags, since they're finite, but what about items |
07:06.19 | ckknight | hrm |
07:06.40 | Wobin | I have a editbox for them to fill in for adding and removing |
07:06.41 | ckknight | well, dewdrop supports scrolling. |
07:06.51 | ckknight | keep that in mind |
07:06.55 | ckknight | you have infinite number of lines |
07:06.57 | Wobin | Do we want to show the entire inventory? |
07:07.03 | Wobin | That's a bit unwieldy |
07:07.05 | Kyahx | when is dewdrop getting editboxs? |
07:07.05 | ckknight | prolly not |
07:07.10 | ckknight | Kyahx, already has it. |
07:07.15 | Kyahx | oh? |
07:07.20 | ckknight | on SVN |
07:07.21 | ckknight | yea |
07:07.28 | Kyahx | neat, I should play with that |
07:07.54 | ckknight | don't abuse it |
07:08.00 | ckknight | it's for fringe cases |
07:08.12 | Kyahx | ? |
07:08.13 | Wobin | hm, can you have the editBox accept shiftclick links? |
07:08.30 | ckknight | hrm |
07:08.36 | ckknight | prolly not |
07:08.40 | Wobin | =( |
07:08.47 | ckknight | it'd be tough |
07:08.48 | ckknight | maybe |
07:09.00 | Kyahx | I was under the impression that the editbox just passes whatever you put into it to the function |
07:09.23 | Kyahx | eh, I dont know how it works, I'd have to mess with it and see |
07:09.37 | ckknight | that is how it works, Kyahx |
07:09.52 | Kyahx | oh, why couldnt it take item links then? |
07:10.05 | Kyahx | wouldnt it just pass the item string? |
07:10.11 | ckknight | because those go to the chat edit box |
07:11.14 | Wobin | hm you can copypaste to it |
07:11.25 | Wobin | but that's just fiddly |
07:11.28 | Kyahx | hmm, I dont completly understand but thats ok. (sorry for being an inquisitive noob ^.^) |
07:11.33 | ckknight | nubtastic |
07:11.36 | Kyahx | hehe |
07:11.41 | Wobin | Well, the shiftclick pastes the lnk to the chatframe |
07:11.47 | Wobin | not to the active editbox |
07:17.55 | Kyahx | allright, its bed time |
07:18.01 | Kyahx | I'll try to get this working tomarrow =/ |
07:29.50 | Wobin | Bah, so much for a simple plugin =) |
07:30.06 | ckknight | lol |
07:37.28 | snurre | <3 my new guild name :p |
07:37.35 | ckknight | what is it? |
07:37.57 | snurre | Crit Happens |
07:38.17 | ckknight | lol |
07:38.49 | snurre | probably just temporary until we get settled, but its still funny |
07:40.14 | snurre | we had some decent suggestions tho... <I got phat epix, you don't>, <Overnukers Inc>, <Carebears>, <Right-click to attack>, <Pan-galactic gargleblasters>, <PvE server is THAT way -->> |
07:40.59 | ckknight | Right-click to attack is pretty funny |
07:41.39 | Elkano | <attack and I'll relog> |
07:41.57 | snurre | <I got phat epix, you don't> would be a little funny, considering its a complete noob server.. no horde guilds have killed ragnaros and only one alliance guild has killed razorgore |
07:42.53 | snurre | (we're migrating with 30ish tier2/rank14 equipped people) |
07:43.30 | snurre | <PvE server is THAT way -->> was simply a hint that we're not gonna bother with the "no ganking near instances" truce all the existing guilds have :p |
07:43.38 | Elkano | <he future is now>? |
07:44.23 | Elkano | ^<the fu.*$ |
07:46.54 | MoonWolf | <and two stealthed rogues> |
07:46.56 | MoonWolf | still owns. |
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07:58.17 | ckknight | hey [ven] |
07:59.45 | Elkano | <Pet of (some other player)> |
07:59.56 | ckknight | lol |
07:59.59 | ckknight | that would be good |
08:00.11 | Elkano | and then imagine a level 5 with a pack of lvl60 T2 'pets' |
08:00.14 | ckknight | or like a mob boss |
08:00.18 | ckknight | <Pet of C'thun |
08:00.20 | ckknight | > |
08:01.14 | ckknight | <Pet of Kel'thuzad> |
08:01.18 | ckknight | we all want to be that. |
08:04.25 | FryGuy | Pet of C'thun.. |
08:04.29 | FryGuy | ~emulate c'thun |
08:04.36 | ckknight | ~c'thun |
08:04.38 | purl | *** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - 5~ sec! *** |
08:04.45 | FryGuy | :D |
08:09.05 | ckknight | ~moredots |
08:09.06 | purl | you lose 50 dkp again! |
08:09.39 | Gngsk | this channel owns |
08:09.45 | ckknight | lol |
08:09.47 | ckknight | yea |
08:10.30 | phyber | ~moredots |
08:10.31 | purl | dps very, very slowly - I mean f*cking slow |
08:10.46 | phyber | flash animation of that is still funny. |
08:10.50 | ckknight | yea |
08:10.59 | ckknight | watch the tail! |
08:24.40 | Industrial | xI liked YOU STOLE MY FUCKING CLOUDSONG better |
08:26.34 | Elkano | any paladin players among you? |
08:28.23 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlLTVzt5qKA |
08:29.41 | phyber | I tried to play a paladin once, but I got bored. |
08:30.17 | MoonWolf | yeah |
08:30.24 | MoonWolf | hit hit hit, heal hit hit hit |
08:32.49 | phyber | started a Druid recently, that's been fun. |
08:33.07 | phyber | especially since I can wear some armour that's not cloth :p |
08:33.16 | phyber | my other chars are Warlock/Mage/Priest |
08:33.45 | Elkano | ^^ |
08:35.07 | Wobin | hrm, is there any identifying function for the backpack? |
08:35.19 | Wobin | ie, to check if the object is the backpack or not |
08:36.18 | Elkano | is the backpack an actual item at all? |
08:36.18 | phyber | I don't know of any other way than to scan through and check. |
08:36.28 | phyber | maybe you want to use QuartermasterLib? |
08:37.38 | phyber | I think that's what it did anyway. Put all your bag data in a table so you can check for stuff. |
08:42.08 | MoonWolf | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-hunter&T=1067267&P=1 <- read an laugh |
08:43.51 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oTG_RKzwvA |
08:43.52 | Wobin | oh god |
08:43.53 | Wobin | The HAIR |
08:44.11 | Wobin | Daggy Freddie! |
08:53.12 | ckknight | does anyone know why AceHooks uses self.Hooks instead of self.hooks? |
09:06.10 | [Ammo] | morning guys |
09:07.24 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2721 10FuBar_MrPlowFu/MrPlowFu.lua: MrPlowFu - Added in listing for ignore lists and modifications |
09:09.12 | phyber | read that thread before (well, the earlier replies). great stuff |
09:09.19 | phyber | - the signal of the hunter is as a great arrow of destination above your head that means the risk imminent. |
09:22.56 | *** join/#wowace maia (n=maia@84.112.137.81) |
09:23.59 | ckknight | mornin, [Ammo] |
09:24.22 | ckknight | wonder if clad'd mind if I changed self.Hooks to self.hooks |
09:30.21 | [Ammo] | for the new Ace? |
09:30.24 | [Ammo] | or for the current one |
09:30.37 | [Ammo] | I think some people depend on it being self.Hooks for the current version |
09:31.13 | ckknight | Ace2 |
09:31.20 | [Ammo] | then I have no opinion : |
09:31.22 | ckknight | where I am allowed to break things |
09:31.23 | ckknight | ;-) |
09:32.11 | ckknight | PascalCase is typically for methods, libraries, and classes, whereas camelCase is for other fields |
09:36.09 | Wobin | " |
09:36.09 | Wobin | ive had a look through the interfaces mods u got but the pictures keep puting me off." |
09:36.22 | Wobin | *facepalm* |
09:36.57 | ckknight | ? |
09:37.09 | haste | what have you done? |
09:37.16 | Wobin | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5083 |
09:38.54 | haste | "bottens" |
09:39.22 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2722 10AceLibrary/ (AceEvent.lua AceHook.lua): |
09:39.23 | CIA-12 | AceHook - tweaked AceHook slightly. |
09:39.23 | CIA-12 | changed self.Hooks to self.hooks, as PascalCase was out of place here, camelCase was more appropriate. |
09:39.59 | maia | what happened to CIA-17? |
09:40.19 | haste | who knows |
09:40.37 | maia | probably vacation. |
09:41.00 | ckknight | yea, he went on holiday |
09:41.09 | haste | I need some new music :( |
09:47.03 | ckknight | haste, what you in to? |
09:47.49 | haste | almost everything |
09:48.05 | haste | I dislike most pop songs tho' |
09:49.36 | [Ammo] | haste: fix the cthun mod! |
09:50.02 | [Ammo] | guild killed emps and cleared all trash last night |
09:50.11 | [Ammo] | so we're doing our first gazillion wipes on him |
09:50.31 | MoonWolf | lol |
09:50.43 | haste | it's working as inteded, except the disable part :p |
09:50.47 | [Ammo] | after first practicing positions in Sartura's room |
09:50.48 | [Ammo] | k cool |
09:50.57 | [Ammo] | not expecting to get him to phase2 |
09:50.59 | [Ammo] | the first night ;) |
09:51.14 | haste | the people whining about dark glare being off, is because I have set the timer to when he begins to casts and not when he beams |
09:51.30 | [Ammo] | yeah you'll have 1 second to run |
09:51.33 | haste | since, when he begings to casts... he doesn't move |
09:51.33 | [Ammo] | which is better |
09:51.55 | haste | I've also set the eye tentacle timer to one sec lower since they fade in then |
09:52.05 | haste | so you can target them before you see them *grin* |
09:53.33 | [Ammo] | sweet thanks |
09:53.37 | [Ammo] | I'll give it a whirl tonight |
09:53.45 | [Ammo] | once we're done rotating around sarturas room for practice :) |
09:54.10 | haste | hehe |
09:54.32 | FryGuy | heh |
09:54.36 | FryGuy | get ready for more rotating :) |
09:54.43 | FryGuy | thaddius is neat |
09:55.07 | haste | the mian problem on C'Thun is getting the healers used to looking around while keeping their groups up |
09:55.29 | haste | I got owned by the beam a couple of time because of it at start :D |
09:55.35 | FryGuy | the main problem on c'thun is making sure your warlocks aren't fat and standing by people :p |
09:55.56 | haste | why the warlocks? |
09:55.58 | FryGuy | and people standing where you're out of range of like everyone to heal |
09:56.01 | FryGuy | cause our warlocks are fat :p |
09:56.07 | haste | orcs? |
09:56.11 | FryGuy | gnomes |
09:56.15 | haste | they aren't fat! |
09:56.24 | FryGuy | heh |
09:56.34 | FryGuy | fat as in dumb at wow |
09:56.40 | ckknight | haste, I like The Mountain Goats, you might as well. I recommend the albums The Sunset Tree and We Shall All Be Healed. They also have a few other good songs here and there |
09:56.55 | FryGuy | squishy is sooo easymode for c'thun |
09:57.00 | FryGuy | it's not even funny |
09:57.17 | FryGuy | as a healer I mean |
09:57.34 | haste | ckknight, thanks, I'll have a look at them later today |
09:57.42 | haste | I think C'Thun is fun as a healer ;o |
09:57.51 | FryGuy | it's the most fun fight in the game IMO |
09:57.51 | haste | compared to other encounters |
09:57.59 | haste | yeh, nothing beats it |
09:58.08 | haste | the magnet boss in Naxx sounds fun tho' |
09:58.13 | FryGuy | heh |
09:58.18 | FryGuy | we were doing him on sunday |
09:58.20 | ckknight | yea, the frankenstein dude |
09:58.26 | FryGuy | and by we, i mean other people in my guild |
09:58.36 | FryGuy | cause they had 8 priests in raid and they wouldn't let me in :( |
09:58.55 | FryGuy | the +/- buff thingy is neat |
09:59.00 | FryGuy | i don't want to spoil it for yout hough :p |
09:59.29 | phyber | spoil it for me instead then. I like hearing about these encounters since I won't see them for about 2 years. |
10:00.38 | FryGuy | ya |
10:00.41 | ckknight | the dude makes half your raid positive and half your raid negative |
10:00.45 | FryGuy | patchwerk is probably unkillable :( |
10:00.49 | ckknight | if you get close, static charge |
10:00.58 | FryGuy | yet gluth is pretty easy |
10:01.03 | FryGuy | even though he's two bosses ahead :/ |
10:01.17 | FryGuy | well i'm talking about the other part |
10:01.26 | FryGuy | and the design of phase 2 of that encounter |
10:02.48 | FryGuy | it's kind of in the design that you need 40 people :p |
10:07.37 | Wobin | http://www.coolfrenchcomics.com/tintinbatman.htm |
10:11.16 | [Ammo] | fryguy just get as much information in your naxxramas bigwigs modules as possible |
10:11.28 | FryGuy | :p |
10:11.30 | [Ammo] | even if it's just casting messages with timestamps |
10:11.42 | [Ammo] | can always analyze the timestamps afterwards to get timerbars in |
10:13.59 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2723 10AceLibrary/AceHook.lua: AceHook - minor tweaking |
10:14.24 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2724 10AceLibrary/AceHook-1.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceHook-1.lua |
10:16.52 | Wobin | heheh |
10:16.54 | Wobin | In 1954 when Ireland were playing Luxembourg, they had an inside left called F**kinger. To my eternal glee, he was the best player on the pitch. He was everywhere. (Radio Eireann sports commentator Philip Greene, who would therefore have had to say the player's name about eight hundred times) |
10:17.50 | Wobin | "..And it's Fuckinger over on the left, now the right! Oh my god, it's Fuckinger up against the goals!" |
10:39.18 | ckknight | lol |
10:39.42 | ckknight | hrm |
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10:39.58 | ckknight | kergoth didn't update Classpool for the new mixin deal |
10:41.18 | ckknight | e.g. Classpool(alpha, bravo) == Classpool(bravo, alpha) |
10:44.32 | MoonWolf | keep buggin him |
10:44.35 | MoonWolf | he will one day |
10:45.16 | [Ammo] | or do it yourself and wear your asbestos suit |
10:45.47 | ckknight | I already coded it, MoonWolf :-P |
10:45.50 | ckknight | lol |
10:45.55 | ckknight | asbestos? |
10:50.24 | [Ammo] | yarr |
10:50.34 | [Ammo] | to prevent burning when kergoth flames you |
10:51.34 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2725 10AceLibrary/AceOO.lua: |
10:51.34 | CIA-12 | AceOO - now assigns all classes a uid. |
10:51.34 | CIA-12 | Classpool now takes in arguments arbitrarily. e.g. Classpool(alpha, bravo) == Classpool(bravo, alpha). This reflects the current mixin scheme. |
10:52.55 | ckknight | flames me? |
10:52.59 | ckknight | what for? |
10:53.06 | ckknight | I'm sure he just forgot to update it |
10:53.13 | ckknight | or didn't have a proper unit test for it |
10:53.15 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2726 10AceLibrary/AceOO-Classpool-1.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceOO-Classpool-1.lua |
10:55.11 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2727 10AceLibrary/AceOO-Classpool-2.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceOO-Classpool-2.lua |
10:58.29 | [Ammo] | hehe |
11:02.38 | [Ammo] | I wonder how many times we'll have to explain the difference between oRA_BigWigs and Bigwigs and meh |
11:02.45 | [Ammo] | people need to learn to read the threads |
11:02.52 | [Ammo] | but 13:02 so lunchtime |
11:02.57 | MoonWolf | poeple dont learn. |
11:04.45 | steino | "do i need bigwigs AND ora_bigwigs?" |
11:04.47 | steino | :p |
11:05.15 | phyber | "I was wondering if someone could inform me as to which is my arse and which is my elbow. Thanks." |
11:06.05 | Industrial | whats bigwigs? |
11:06.14 | ariose | or, before there was ora_maintankframes: "I installed oRA, but it doesn't do anything!!" |
11:06.36 | phyber | Industrial: fake hair store for people with large heads. |
11:06.44 | Industrial | k |
11:06.49 | Industrial | bet tekkub thought of that |
11:07.07 | Industrial | People need to get 'an addon does something i can see' out of their head. |
11:07.27 | maia | and do I need oRa_BigWigsCTRA? |
11:07.36 | Industrial | I dont raid, do i need this? |
11:07.41 | Industrial | HOW I MINE FOR FISH? |
11:07.56 | Industrial | :P |
11:08.04 | MoonWolf | i dont breathe, do i need air ? |
11:08.17 | phyber | pick axe the water O_o |
11:09.10 | maia | still, a compilation of all the addons that together resemble ctra would be good to put up at wowi. |
11:09.35 | ariose | didn't someone do that? alt_raid or something |
11:10.01 | maia | yeah, but I think it's not on wowi but just a dl link to a private website |
11:10.54 | ckknight | MyAddon = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0")("AceEvent-2.0", "AceHook-2.0") |
11:10.59 | ckknight | that's the basic API for Ace2, I think |
11:11.50 | ckknight | then you do your basic addon methods and whatnot |
11:12.39 | ckknight | just a heads up, I guess |
11:13.46 | phyber | so Ace2 will be like using embeded libraries? |
11:13.52 | ckknight | yes |
11:13.58 | phyber | nice :) |
11:14.08 | ckknight | Ace2 will be all embedded |
11:14.17 | ckknight | users won't install it |
11:15.20 | ckknight | and it'll be quite modular and whatnot |
11:15.54 | maia | so if I have 50 ace addons, and each addon has the ace2 libraries embedded, how many GB will I need extra? ;p |
11:16.14 | MoonWolf | about 50kb per addon |
11:16.25 | MoonWolf | and it wont affect ingame memory at all. |
11:16.26 | ckknight | so, that's 2.5 MiB |
11:16.35 | ckknight | right, MoonWolf |
11:16.35 | maia | hmm... |
11:17.08 | maia | now all I'll need to find out is how to prevent a grep over the entire addons folder to grep all the libraries dozen of times. |
11:17.13 | MoonWolf | thats right people, 25 ace addons create a foppydisk of overhead, in hd space only! |
11:17.23 | ckknight | embedded libraries are good, maia |
11:17.56 | maia | ckknight: I know. but it can also be a pain |
11:18.01 | ckknight | how? |
11:18.25 | maia | tekkub updated metrognome, user updated squishy (and got the new metrognome), FuBar broke. users blame squishy. |
11:18.37 | ckknight | I blame squishy. |
11:18.42 | ckknight | jk |
11:18.59 | maia | also, a grep for SetBackdropBorderColor in my addons folder will return 25 instances of DewDropLib |
11:18.59 | ckknight | see, that can be averted if Tekkub coded properly :-P |
11:19.07 | ckknight | yep. |
11:19.18 | Elkano | I'd blame tekkub for having a change marked as minor that changed API behaviour |
11:19.20 | phyber | maia: --exclude |
11:19.34 | ckknight | right, Elkano |
11:19.39 | maia | --exclude DewdropLib.lua? |
11:20.11 | phyber | that should work |
11:20.52 | phyber | $ grep --exclude=test.pl blah * |
11:20.52 | phyber | test.pl~:my $quote = "<b>bleh weeeee\nblah b lah</b>"; |
11:20.55 | maia | well, but what if I want to grap it once, but not a dozen times? |
11:20.56 | phyber | yup. :) |
11:21.11 | phyber | then you write a chunky wrapper script, maybe :) |
11:21.17 | maia | ouch. |
11:22.52 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2728 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon.lua AceHook.lua): |
11:22.52 | CIA-12 | AceAddon - added minimal functionality |
11:22.52 | CIA-12 | AceHook - fixed typo |
11:22.55 | maia | do a grep -r ChangeRate . for your interface folder and tell me the output is useful :) |
11:23.57 | maia | dont get me wrong, embedded libraries are great, but thats a big downside. |
11:24.58 | ckknight | how many devs use *nix? |
11:25.18 | maia | I'm using mac. |
11:25.25 | ckknight | hrm |
11:25.48 | ckknight | btw, a mac is *nix |
11:25.53 | maia | bsd. |
11:25.57 | ckknight | yea |
11:26.00 | ckknight | which is *nix |
11:26.03 | maia | ;) |
11:28.57 | Industrial | http://www.osvids.com/ |
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11:49.47 | [Ammo] | I use *nix |
11:49.49 | [Ammo] | just play on win32 |
11:50.50 | Industrial | *nix is only play for me |
11:50.53 | Industrial | but then again |
11:50.56 | Industrial | windows is too |
11:50.57 | Industrial | :D |
11:54.56 | ckknight | yea, I too wish linux had better ISV support |
11:55.07 | ckknight | if it did, there'd be no issue with running games |
11:56.24 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2729 10AceLibrary/ (AceAddon.lua AceOO.lua): AceOO - default tostring is more complex and always properly returns a string. |
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12:19.03 | ckknight | Kaelten, I'm confused |
12:19.44 | MoonWolf | confusion ftw ? |
12:20.15 | ckknight | AceAddon is confusing me a bit |
12:51.50 | Wobin | The time when I want some chatter, nobody's awake =P |
12:52.17 | steino | im fully asleep |
12:53.45 | Wobin | 1) I hope they actually start those Oceanic servers somewhere in Oceania |
12:53.51 | Wobin | 2) I hope they offer transfers |
12:53.56 | Wobin | Cause I'd so hit that shit |
12:54.11 | Wobin | Being able to play with American latency would be a wonder to behold =P |
12:56.07 | MoonWolf | I care shit about 1.11, can we have 1.12 now and 1.11 after ? |
12:56.30 | Tek | Keyrings! |
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12:56.56 | MoonWolf | not worth it enough |
12:57.01 | MoonWolf | i want abetter pvp system. |
13:02.55 | [ven] | i want the mage revamp and a better pvp system.. i don't care about naxx.. :( |
13:05.16 | Wobin | dear god |
13:05.17 | Wobin | titleevents today |
13:05.17 | Wobin | david_williams127 |
13:05.32 | Wobin | I think Mr Williams is mass importing into SVN =P |
13:07.38 | Wobin | Damnit |
13:07.44 | Wobin | Devla's not working on AceHeal anymore |
13:07.52 | Wobin | Will Squishy be able to take it's place? |
13:08.15 | Thrae | Clad is prob. going to add AceHeal functionality into Clique. |
13:08.28 | Thrae | Or make a separate module for it to go along with Clique. |
13:09.49 | ariose | what is Clique? |
13:09.59 | Wobin | clickcasting module |
13:09.59 | ariose | an in devel mod to do.. ____ |
13:10.01 | ariose | ahh |
13:10.02 | Makk | what's Industrial's website? |
13:10.02 | ariose | cool. |
13:10.56 | Makk | Btw, BigWigs doesn't lower the timer stuff for C'Thun phase two |
13:11.24 | Makk | it still says that the tentacles spawn after 45 sec, but in phase two it is lowered to 30 sec |
13:12.11 | Wobin | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial |
13:12.50 | Makk | thanks |
13:12.51 | Makk | err |
13:12.56 | Makk | password ftw? |
13:13.12 | Wobin | oh |
13:13.31 | Wobin | I dunno... try tacking on /game/WoW |
13:13.53 | Makk | huh? |
13:14.07 | Wobin | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/ |
13:14.59 | Makk | thanks |
13:15.04 | Wobin | np |
13:15.14 | Wobin | Hm, I should write the Roshambo addon |
13:15.23 | Makk | O_o |
13:15.32 | Wobin | It'll be good learning for a comm addon |
13:15.54 | Wobin | Instead of /roll 100 you use rock/paper/scissors to find out who wins! |
13:16.24 | steino | you have such nice ideas :p |
13:16.29 | Wobin | Hehe it wasn't mine =) |
13:16.48 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
13:17.10 | Wobin | Where's the fun in that =P |
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13:19.26 | phyber | <PROTECTED> |
13:19.45 | Wobin | only if you subscribe to the Deadpool School of Thought =P |
13:19.52 | Wobin | (Which I wholeheartedly do!) |
13:20.19 | phyber | is that where South Park got it from? |
13:20.52 | Wobin | I'm not sure |
13:20.55 | Wobin | Actually |
13:21.05 | Wobin | I -know- that DP comic came out before SP |
13:21.08 | Wobin | So probalby |
13:21.45 | phyber | in one of the episodes cartman goes around doing it to people :) |
13:22.28 | Thrae | What, kicking people in the groin? |
13:22.53 | phyber | Thrae: yeah, roshambo'ing them for stuff. instead of rock/paper/scissors. |
13:24.33 | Wobin | http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/1664980.html |
13:25.56 | Wobin | hm, I'm pretty sure it came out before SP did |
13:26.16 | Wobin | Anyway Deadpool pulls it off with far more panache than Cartman ever could =P |
13:27.03 | phyber | hehe |
13:30.19 | haste | 12http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warrior&t=1071285&p=1&tmp=1 << hehe, last post |
13:30.39 | phyber | ahahaha |
13:30.45 | phyber | win. |
13:32.33 | Wobin | Cor wins the interweb =) |
13:36.34 | Mikma | hehehe |
13:36.39 | Mikma | owned |
13:37.24 | ariose | sweet, plowfu |
13:40.56 | Wobin | yay kyahx! |
13:41.01 | Wobin | Who is taking over AceHeal |
13:41.48 | steino | You! |
13:42.35 | Elkano | one could convert AceHeal into a ClickCast addon with moduls ;) |
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13:44.25 | Wobin | nono |
13:44.31 | Wobin | Kyahx is taking over AceHeal |
13:44.50 | steino | oO |
13:44.54 | Wobin | hm, anyone know the link to where someone moved all of Rowne's addons? |
13:44.58 | steino | who's that? |
13:45.20 | Wobin | The person currently doing the top up X at merchant addon |
13:45.21 | steino | http://rowne.wowace.com/ ? :O |
13:46.01 | Wobin | FreeRefills |
13:46.15 | Wobin | woo ta |
13:52.02 | [Ammo] | Elkano: how do you mean ClickCast addon with modules? |
13:52.20 | [Ammo] | it's currently a clickcast addon but has mostly healing functionality |
13:52.34 | maia | Wobin: as for Squishy and AceHeal: I guess Cladhaire's Clique is a simple click cast addon (and I wonder if he has seen JustClick yet, which doesn't even need its own UI as it's using the keybindings dialog) |
13:53.00 | haste | what the fuck... |
13:53.06 | maia | besides that, I have some code that will select the appropriate rank for a squishy unit, depending on current health, aggro and healing status |
13:53.08 | [Ammo] | I should try Clique |
13:53.17 | haste | I'm trying to mount on my rogue, but when I right click the mount.. it just moves :> |
13:53.22 | Wobin | maia: And +heal? =) *looks hopeful* |
13:53.28 | maia | of course |
13:53.31 | Wobin | woohoo! |
13:53.41 | sedatedChipmunk | so you're saying it will heal my raid for me/ |
13:53.50 | haste | ahha |
13:53.52 | Wobin | yes, hC! =) |
13:53.56 | haste | do you have a highlight on heal hC? |
13:54.04 | hyperChipmunk | brilliant! |
13:54.13 | maia | right now it can also target the unit in range with highest priority, and also it will skip people with active renew if you want to renew them. |
13:54.20 | hyperChipmunk | haste: ? |
13:54.22 | maia | just don't know what to do with that code. |
13:54.28 | Wobin | put it in? =) |
13:54.32 | maia | in what? |
13:54.37 | maia | it doesnt belong into squishy. |
13:54.37 | Wobin | squishy? |
13:54.39 | Wobin | oh |
13:54.53 | Wobin | What's the functional definition of squishy? |
13:54.59 | maia | Squishy is an emergency monitor, and I know lots of people dislike addons that make choices for you |
13:55.59 | Wobin | meh =) |
13:56.17 | Wobin | Maybe have it as an optional module for squishy |
13:56.31 | Wobin | AutoSquish |
13:56.38 | maia | simplest way (but probably not the best): an addon with squishy as dependency, offering macros like HealFast(unitid[,aggro, heal]) and HealSlow() |
13:56.41 | Wobin | SquishSmart |
13:56.50 | hyperChipmunk | SquishMyRaidForMe |
13:57.15 | maia | but - is an addon with squishy as dependency the best solution? I doubt it |
13:57.23 | hyperChipmunk | SMRFM for short |
13:57.25 | Wobin | As opposed to what, however? |
13:57.29 | maia | maybe it would be better to have it as library. I dunno. |
13:57.33 | hyperChipmunk | pronounced "Smrifum" |
13:57.48 | Wobin | You always had a way with words, Chipper |
13:57.59 | hyperChipmunk | it's a talent I have |
13:58.01 | Wobin | Granted, that way is usually illegal in most states... |
13:58.13 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
14:01.01 | MoonWolf | eeeuh |
14:01.03 | MoonWolf | suuuuure |
14:02.06 | Wobin | heheh |
14:02.07 | Wobin | The only thing holding that top up is the collective will of everyone in this room." |
14:02.07 | Wobin | This was regarding one woman wearing an outfit that signified she expected her anatomy to defy gravity, which it wasn't, but somehow her top did, despite no means of support. Group horror is the new Wonderbra. |
14:02.37 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
14:04.22 | maia | Wobin: http://pastebin.com/706501 |
14:04.40 | maia | (thats what I'm planning for SquishyHealer) |
14:05.42 | Wobin | what are the effects of the last two flags? |
14:06.27 | maia | if aggro is true: damage = damage + (lvl*5*spelltime) |
14:06.45 | maia | if heal is true: damage = damage - (lvl*10) |
14:07.08 | maia | to adjust the rank it will choose. |
14:07.09 | Wobin | hm, is squishy synching between healers? |
14:07.36 | maia | Wobin: Squishy knows which units are being healed - by parsing the combat log but also by sending info to other squishy users. |
14:07.44 | Wobin | cool |
14:07.52 | maia | the latter is more exact, but if you're the only one in the raid using Squishy you'll be fine too. |
14:08.03 | Wobin | unless everyone is clickcasting =) |
14:08.44 | maia | but I'd still want to finish Squishy first. Trying to convert the xml to lua today, but a few more things are left to do |
14:09.29 | haste | I have a little question btw, where did Thirsterhall go? just *poff* gone? |
14:09.29 | maia | also I'm unsure about CommChannel and HealSync libraries - I'd want to use them, but only if they use the ctra channel if available. |
14:09.46 | maia | haste: yeah, more or less. |
14:09.59 | Wobin | haste: Haven't seen nor heard from him in ages |
14:10.08 | maia | but I think he's still in college, so he might be back in a few weeks. |
14:10.27 | maia | (similar to AngreasG) |
14:11.10 | haste | don't think he dissapers for three months just 'cause of college :o |
14:12.13 | haste | well, it doesn't matter much |
14:12.57 | haste | [Ammo], I'm thinking about putting the current oRA on WoWI, and update it as the SVN updates |
14:13.53 | haste | I just need to write a new description for everything :p |
14:16.16 | hyperChipmunk | soccer announcers rule |
14:20.11 | maia | did anyone ever consider adding DewDrop to oRa, and maybe a (oh noes!) minimap button? |
14:21.01 | maia | I can't remember all the slash commands, but I do know I had to type quite a lot when initially configuring oRa |
14:21.33 | Wobin | oRaFu? =) |
14:21.39 | maia | yes! |
14:21.52 | Wobin | That'd be kinda nifty |
14:22.08 | maia | and BigWigsFu |
14:22.36 | maia | just for configuration purpose. |
14:23.56 | haste | maia, I was thinking about DewDrop + slash command to open it |
14:24.22 | haste | the problem is that, how would you add extra levels for the modules |
14:25.16 | maia | I don't know. Codayus added dewdrop to Squishy, I've never taken a close look at the api. |
14:25.45 | Codayus | Hmm |
14:26.00 | Codayus | Levels for the modules? Hm |
14:26.18 | haste | and how would you add the content in the level? |
14:26.33 | haste | hmm, it might work :o |
14:26.58 | Codayus | I think it should. |
14:27.08 | haste | I'll tinker with this idea later today, or when I'm done with the pre-exam things |
14:27.46 | hyperChipmunk | I just got a message in my spambox with the subject: 'dismember' |
14:32.08 | Wobin | hehe |
14:32.15 | Wobin | The Koreans downstairs are going apeshit |
14:32.21 | Wobin | I figure they scored =) |
14:35.04 | Slayman | hey folks |
14:35.47 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
14:35.49 | hyperChipmunk | 2-1 |
14:36.12 | hyperChipmunk | they were down 1-0, but Togo got redcarded in the 54th minute and Korea scored on the ensuing freekick |
14:36.30 | hyperChipmunk | now it's 2-1 |
14:36.41 | hyperChipmunk | in the 77th minute |
14:38.56 | Wobin | hehe brilliant |
14:39.24 | Slayman | we have 30 degree Celsius over here in Germany that's crazy |
14:40.28 | haste | same here in norway :( |
14:41.10 | Slayman | and those poor guys have to play soccer |
14:41.12 | Slayman | hehe |
14:41.53 | Wobin | woo |
14:41.58 | Wobin | feelin hothothot |
14:42.14 | Wobin | That just reminds me of cricket =P |
14:42.28 | Wobin | Having to stand in the blazing sun for hours, hardly moving =P |
14:42.29 | Tain | That's some fine sports playing weather. |
14:42.46 | phyber | nice cool day here \o/ |
14:42.50 | phyber | clouds in the sky :) |
14:43.19 | Tain | They don't play soccer in the snow do they? |
14:43.27 | hyperChipmunk | I've seen it |
14:43.51 | hyperChipmunk | played in it too |
14:44.14 | Slayman | well inside of the stadiums there is no snow, but yeah the also have longer clothes for cold days |
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14:51.42 | Mikma | Grendel - Interrogation Leash [http://stream.reaktio.net:8000 with 1 listener(s)] <- i'm streaming EBM ;) |
14:53.24 | maia | guys, try telnet ascii-wm.net 2006 |
14:53.39 | Mikma | http://www.thepalsforlife.com/~palupload/Neverendingagony.jpg |
14:53.40 | maia | it's the live WM signal in ascii |
14:53.43 | Mikma | pretty nice ui |
14:54.01 | MoonWolf | to many connections |
14:54.05 | MoonWolf | WM ? |
14:54.06 | Mikma | too many connections :) .. try later |
14:54.06 | Mikma | Connection closed by foreign host. |
14:54.40 | Mikma | HAHA! |
14:54.44 | Mikma | look at the screenshot i posted |
14:54.51 | Mikma | search for celebrity in the shot |
14:55.00 | maia | Leeroy |
14:55.08 | MoonWolf | booring. |
14:58.13 | Mikma | well teach me how to make the SavePosition working |
14:58.25 | Mikma | then you're not bored, you're pissed |
15:01.05 | Wobin | connection to host lost =( |
15:01.08 | Tain | I want a Belt of Neverending Agony |
15:03.31 | Mikma | hmm |
15:03.43 | Mikma | gonffbar seems to be visible on druid all the time |
15:04.52 | Wobin | ooh! |
15:04.52 | Slayman | I Fucking Love Ajax that thing is the future of dynamic websites ! |
15:05.00 | Wobin | someone who I can bug about the bugs |
15:05.44 | Wobin | hm, Mikma: What version is returned by /gb ? |
15:05.54 | Mikma | just a moment, login |
15:06.20 | Slayman | Mikma: What Unitframes are used in that screen u posted? DUF ? |
15:06.24 | Mikma | and, i'm always glad to help you guys :) |
15:06.43 | Mikma | Slayman: it's PALS 4 LIFE -screenshot, and it's DiscordUnitBars |
15:07.00 | haste | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-tech-support&t=899782&p=1&tmp=1#post899782 << rofl at ascii art |
15:07.02 | Mikma | Wobin: 1.1.2067 |
15:07.51 | Mikma | haste: omg! blizz has started using ascii-art! :D |
15:08.03 | haste | looks like it ;D |
15:08.40 | Mikma | haste: i love you and oUF2 |
15:08.45 | Slayman | u know of that telnet Server presenting Star Wars ASCII on connect? the best stuff on the net |
15:09.13 | Tain | That reminds me, in a drunken stupor one night I thought I wanted to make faux ASCII unit frames |
15:09.29 | MoonWolf | this is going to be good. |
15:09.48 | Tek | erf |
15:10.17 | Tek | so got my lil stubby written up, hopefully tonights MC works well and all the hunters installed it so I can see their tranqs :) |
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15:13.49 | wereHamster | is PerfectRaid still being developed? |
15:14.25 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
15:15.27 | wereHamster | the last commit is 1212 .. and HEAD is something like 2600 |
15:15.57 | haste | branch |
15:16.08 | Wobin | Hey were, you're working on making all the stuff for HealSync embedded, aren't you? |
15:16.16 | wereHamster | yes |
15:16.19 | Wobin | Cool =) |
15:16.45 | Mikma | oooh that is lovely <3 collecting herbs in bearform <3 <3 <3 |
15:16.47 | wereHamster | should be functional by now.. |
15:16.57 | Wobin | I love gathering in catform =) |
15:17.00 | Wobin | It looks so cute |
15:17.26 | Mikma | i bet it's the same thing as bear, it's clawing the ground hehe |
15:17.29 | Wobin | Mikma: And GB is showing in bearform? |
15:17.39 | Mikma | Wobin: was just writing that yes |
15:17.44 | Wobin | What level are you? |
15:17.45 | Mikma | Wobin: when i lose some health it appears on screen |
15:17.48 | Mikma | 11 :) |
15:17.53 | Wobin | ah, hm |
15:18.01 | Mikma | but doesn't matter, i can login to lvl60 druid too |
15:18.03 | Wobin | Do you have Iriel's Devtools installed? |
15:18.14 | Mikma | no but paste me the link and i do have in 2mins |
15:18.29 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 |
15:18.36 | Wobin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 |
15:18.43 | Cairenn | beat ya! |
15:18.44 | Wobin | man... fingers of lightning |
15:19.17 | Mikma | that was incredibly fast |
15:19.32 | wereHamster | can't we teach purl ~devtools ? |
15:19.57 | Mikma | try it :P |
15:20.06 | Wobin | purl, devtools is Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 |
15:20.08 | purl | okay, Wobin |
15:20.34 | Cairenn | ~devtools |
15:20.35 | purl | [devtools] Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 |
15:21.01 | Wobin | ~botsnack |
15:21.01 | purl | Wobin: aw, gee |
15:21.20 | Mikma | Wobin: installed and ready to go |
15:21.44 | Wobin | okay, hit /dump GetShapeshiftFormInfo(3) |
15:21.51 | Wobin | (and that was incredibly fast =P) |
15:22.10 | Mikma | empty result |
15:22.36 | Wobin | hm |
15:22.41 | Wobin | As it should be =P |
15:22.52 | Mikma | 3 = normal bear or dire bear |
15:23.04 | Mikma | since i only have normal atm :) |
15:23.05 | Wobin | hm, not cat? |
15:23.11 | Mikma | lvl11 ;) |
15:23.18 | Wobin | yeah, 3 is Cat afaik |
15:23.36 | Mikma | 1 results something hehe |
15:23.46 | Wobin | /dump GonffBar.k.Class |
15:23.47 | Mikma | i'll look on readme |
15:23.54 | haste | check if the person is a druid and higher level then X ? |
15:24.21 | Mikma | Wobin: [1]="DRUID" |
15:24.23 | Wobin | yeah, it'll be easier to just disable if they don't have the cat |
15:24.32 | Wobin | But I need to figure out why it's showing =\ |
15:24.38 | haste | no, don't disable it |
15:24.39 | Mikma | but GetShapeshiftFormInfo(1) .. |
15:24.50 | haste | just don't register all the events, and register the level changed event |
15:25.09 | haste | just in-case the person gets it later on |
15:25.12 | Wobin | oh duh |
15:25.20 | Mikma | is there any way of copying the info from chat without chatlog |
15:25.27 | Wobin | I'm silly. |
15:25.42 | Mikma | well.. nvm :) |
15:26.20 | Wobin | oh, are the settings saving for you? |
15:26.31 | haste | actually, ti's better to check if he gains a spell I guess then level |
15:26.42 | Mikma | funny thing |
15:26.53 | Mikma | now it appears and disappears :D |
15:27.37 | Wobin | Could you move it around/resize/change colour and /rl to see if the settings stick? |
15:27.50 | phyber | MoonWolf: nice topic :) (cute but wrong thing) |
15:27.55 | Mikma | sure, just a moment |
15:27.58 | Wobin | cool |
15:28.05 | MoonWolf | hehe |
15:28.10 | haste | where is that quote from? |
15:28.21 | phyber | Ren and Stimpy |
15:28.25 | phyber | the horse guy. |
15:28.27 | haste | aah |
15:28.40 | phyber | wait, maybe not him. |
15:28.48 | phyber | he says "No Sir, I don't like it". |
15:30.12 | Mikma | ok i now completely fooked up the settings, and now i'll /rl |
15:30.41 | Mikma | ahm.. didn't save settings :P |
15:31.30 | Wobin | hm |
15:32.12 | Mikma | well i didn't do lock on it but aren't they still supposed to save :P |
15:32.37 | Wobin | Can I send you a file? |
15:32.39 | phyber | hmm. actually that quote seems to be from 2 Stupid Dogs. |
15:32.43 | phyber | which was also good :) |
15:32.51 | phyber | sure I remember it from Ren and Stimpy though :/ |
15:32.57 | phyber | cowboy guy. |
15:33.02 | Mikma | yea |
15:34.03 | Mikma | (stalled) |
15:34.08 | Mikma | you have firewall on? |
15:34.10 | Wobin | bah |
15:34.14 | Wobin | probably, one sec |
15:34.48 | Mikma | ::: DCC can't connect to 221.221.25.152 port 18344 |
15:34.51 | Mikma | interesting :) |
15:35.01 | Wobin | damn GFoC |
15:35.07 | Wobin | Got an email? =) |
15:35.25 | Mikma | sure i got but easier would be if you could pop it on net or so |
15:35.54 | Mikma | can't conenct to plaa plaa |
15:36.02 | Mikma | just a sec i'll start another irc |
15:36.07 | Wobin | nono |
15:36.09 | Wobin | it's my connection |
15:36.22 | Wobin | Probably the fact of my location than anything else |
15:36.24 | Mikma | sure sure, but i started one locally so i don't have to ftp ;) |
15:36.38 | Mikma | try sending it to mikma_ :) |
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15:39.13 | Mikma | Wobin: well the gonffbar seems to become visible while not shapeshifter too |
15:39.33 | Wobin | yeah, I'm hoping this new file fixes that |
15:39.53 | Wobin | what's a quick file upload site? |
15:40.00 | Wobin | oh buggrit |
15:40.02 | Mikma | bah... |
15:40.05 | Mikma | do you have ftp |
15:40.21 | Mikma | (program) |
15:40.53 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2730 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - Fixed some bugs |
15:41.02 | Wobin | huh |
15:41.05 | Wobin | That shouldn't have happened? |
15:41.57 | Wobin | I don't know if that actually updated |
15:42.44 | Wobin | okay |
15:42.47 | Wobin | well try that file |
15:42.51 | Mikma | okeis |
15:43.01 | Wobin | and use /script GonffBarDB = {} |
15:43.03 | Wobin | first |
15:44.06 | Slayman | DUF hates me |
15:44.19 | Mikma | disable it and take oUF2 |
15:44.27 | Slayman | Wobin: www.rapidshare.de |
15:44.37 | Mikma | Wobin: so, what do you wan't me to test now? :) |
15:44.37 | Wobin | Slayman: Ta |
15:44.44 | Wobin | Just see if it does the same thing |
15:44.57 | Wobin | ie, shows up at inopportune moments and doesn't save settings |
15:47.53 | Slayman | WoW & DuF ate my mouse i cannot get lose of the playerframe, and i can't click my Firefox, stupid bullcrap |
15:48.12 | Mikma | Wobin: didn't save settings |
15:48.18 | Wobin | grump |
15:48.24 | Mikma | Wobin: but doesn't seem to appear anymore |
15:48.46 | Wobin | Are the US servers back up yet? |
15:49.09 | Cairenn | no |
15:49.12 | Wobin | =\ |
15:49.17 | Mikma | 1.11? ;) |
15:49.18 | Cairenn | couple more hours |
15:49.19 | Cairenn | no |
15:49.26 | Mikma | what's taking so long :P |
15:49.32 | Wobin | hokay. |
15:49.40 | Wobin | Mikma: /dump GonffBarDB |
15:49.42 | Cairenn | usual length of time |
15:49.52 | Wobin | and just tell me if the variables are all within default |
15:49.57 | Wobin | er "default" |
15:50.21 | Wobin | should be something like profiles = { default = {... |
15:50.46 | Mikma | hmm gotta pop the lua in editor to see the defaults too |
15:50.54 | Wobin | nono |
15:51.00 | Wobin | shouldn't need to |
15:51.26 | Mikma | hmmm.. seems like the settings are what i edited |
15:51.40 | Wobin | Just appear not to be loading... |
15:51.44 | Mikma | yeah they are, but the bar is default |
15:53.01 | Slayman | Mikma: oUF2 ? is there a version 2 of otravis? |
15:54.27 | Mikma | yeah it's in svn http://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/otravi_UnitFrames/ |
15:54.58 | Mikma | hahahah cruel! i aggroed 3 bears, and tried to run away... well i wasn't able to do that but i happened to die on cemetary |
15:55.04 | Mikma | don't have to run to my corpse :D |
15:55.53 | Wobin | hehe |
15:55.58 | Wobin | oh the branch |
15:56.02 | Wobin | I was wondering where it was |
15:56.35 | Slayman | anyone knows why Watchdog is opt. dependency? for some supernifty features? |
15:57.38 | Tain | Just so it will load after WD if it's there |
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15:59.55 | Mikma | hehe http://wow.reaktio.net/corpserun.jpg |
16:01.27 | Wobin | hehe I love that. |
16:01.31 | Wobin | Death [You] |
16:02.02 | Wobin | where to read up about AJAX, Slayman? |
16:02.35 | Ratbert_CP | Wobin: Why did you split out MrPlowFu? Why not bundle it with MrPlow? |
16:02.40 | wereHamster | I think I had a DC .. so whatever you told me.. I couldn't read it :( |
16:02.45 | Wobin | erm |
16:02.51 | Wobin | I don't know =) |
16:02.54 | Slayman | start at the wiki in your language, as far as german is considered there is a ton of more links about it |
16:03.04 | Wobin | I'll go do that =P |
16:03.26 | Ratbert_CP | Just curious. I bundle BagBoyFu because I've stopped supporting slash commands... :) |
16:03.40 | Wobin | Hehe, it just never occurred to me =) |
16:04.30 | Slayman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_%28programming%29 good point to start at, but the german article is better |
16:04.44 | Wobin | sob wikipedia =( |
16:04.51 | Wobin | I have to go through anonymouse =P |
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16:05.32 | Shyva | Yow |
16:06.47 | Mikma | yesh |
16:06.56 | Tain | Goddamnit I moved 15 miles and they want to double my car insurance rate. |
16:07.29 | Wobin | Did you move 15miles up a cliff? |
16:08.54 | Mikma | i must say, simple combatlog is pretty good too |
16:09.06 | Mikma | nurfed has so aggressive colors in it |
16:09.50 | Mikma | Wobin: gonffbar appeared again |
16:10.09 | Wobin | from combat? |
16:10.14 | Wobin | or just randomly |
16:10.18 | Mikma | yeah in combat |
16:10.29 | Mikma | i was having a nice bear vs bear combat while it appeared |
16:10.43 | Wobin | from the start of combat? |
16:10.44 | Mikma | when i got ravaged (stunned) it disappeared but came back after it ended |
16:10.48 | Mikma | no in middle of combat |
16:10.57 | Mikma | atleast i think so hehe |
16:11.08 | Slayman | lol how do i modify oUF2 frames? |
16:11.09 | Wobin | I need a low level druid =P |
16:11.17 | Wobin | I think there are dewdrop menus? |
16:11.19 | Mikma | well in middle yeah when i entered combat as bear |
16:11.32 | Wobin | changing from elfform? |
16:11.34 | Mikma | lol now it appeared when i moonfired the bear as nelf |
16:11.46 | Wobin | this is wacky |
16:11.56 | Mikma | i bet the file didn't update at all |
16:12.25 | Mikma | because it's acting the same way like it did before update |
16:12.33 | Tek | mmmm.... bear...... |
16:13.23 | Wobin | lemme recommit |
16:14.41 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2731 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - Recommitting |
16:14.54 | Mikma | this is really interesting i must say :D |
16:15.03 | Mikma | it randomly appears and disappears |
16:18.27 | Mikma | Wobin: well, it didn't load the settings |
16:18.41 | Wobin | hm |
16:18.55 | Wobin | I'm thinking I might just revamp the whole setting saving thing |
16:19.08 | Wobin | can you /dump GonffBar:Get("xPos") |
16:19.08 | Wobin | ? |
16:19.21 | Mikma | empty result |
16:22.03 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2732 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - Moved some functions around |
16:22.12 | haste | Wobin, drop AceDB :p |
16:22.35 | Wobin | yeah |
16:22.43 | Mikma | haste: you should make combopoints for ouf :) |
16:22.43 | Wobin | I'm thinking exactly that =P |
16:24.27 | Slayman | haste my friend, how to access configuration for ouf ? can't find it |
16:24.49 | haste | I have a slightly modified GonffBar which places itself on the PowerBar in the player frame |
16:25.03 | haste | Slayman, <Ctrl> Right Click |
16:25.05 | Mikma | haste: uh! |
16:25.10 | haste | (on the player frame) |
16:25.20 | Mikma | gimme gimme gimme <3 |
16:25.30 | Mikma | oUF_GonffBar |
16:26.08 | haste | I'm going to change it some before I toss it out |
16:26.10 | Slayman | a proposition add that information to the /ouf information so ppl like myself don't have to ask ^^ |
16:26.17 | Mikma | oh noes, delay :( |
16:26.26 | haste | Slayman, it's still pretty alpha :p |
16:26.41 | haste | so I have no problem with people asking ;) |
16:27.18 | Wobin | bah |
16:27.26 | Slayman | now as i see that beautiful dewdrop I'm already liking it! |
16:27.31 | Wobin | Okay. I'm rewriting GB to get rid of AceDB |
16:27.33 | Wobin | and use DewDrop |
16:27.39 | Mikma | haste: a right end of energybar would be a perfect place to have combos :) |
16:28.23 | haste | Wobin, give me a highlight when your done |
16:28.35 | Wobin | Will do =) |
16:29.53 | Slayman | lovely absolutely lovely haste |
16:30.30 | Mikma | haste: we were planning on a remake of AceTimers using otravi_CastingBar texture on bars and Metrognome ;) |
16:31.26 | haste | I need to finish oCB also :( |
16:31.43 | Wobin | s/planning on/discussing on putting on you the task to do/ |
16:31.52 | Wobin | =) |
16:31.58 | Mikma | s/planning on/discussing on putting on you the task to do/ |
16:32.12 | Wobin | hehe |
16:32.13 | haste | haha, that turned out evil |
16:32.21 | Mikma | hey! you tricked me! i like that |
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16:36.28 | Mikma | Wobin: gonffbar appeared again ;) |
16:36.34 | Wobin | hehe |
16:36.41 | Wobin | Hopefully this rewrite will fix it =P |
16:37.01 | Amadeo | I noticed GB was showing up when I level |
16:37.04 | Amadeo | then disappearing again |
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16:37.55 | Mikma | why made AutoAttack? can't remember right now :P |
16:38.54 | haste | who? |
16:39.01 | Mikma | sorry tpyo |
16:39.03 | Wobin | ckknight: |
16:39.05 | haste | Ckk I think |
16:39.46 | Mikma | he did like when people submitted bugs on his portal, right? |
16:39.46 | Wobin | Ratbert_CP: To integrate directly into FuBar without the dependancy I just use the \FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua, right? |
16:39.57 | Ratbert_CP | Yes. |
16:40.19 | Ratbert_CP | It'll also create a minimap button if there's no FuBar. |
16:40.32 | Ratbert_CP | I set FuBar as an optional dep. |
16:40.40 | Ratbert_CP | Dunno if even that is needed. |
16:40.51 | wereHamster | Wobin, another thing with HealSync.. many seem to dislike the backend, CommChannel.. especially that it creates it's own channel.. |
16:41.10 | Wobin | wereHamster: Is there any issue with using the ctra channel? |
16:41.19 | Wobin | That seems to be the most common method |
16:41.55 | haste | the reason using the CTRA channel is bad is because it creates extra resources usage on clients that use CTRA |
16:42.03 | Wobin | ah, point |
16:42.04 | Amadeo | haaasstteeee |
16:42.13 | haste | I've seen CTRA users crash due to it being overused by the threat meter thingy |
16:42.22 | Wobin | but you're tossing that up against "I don't have another channel free" |
16:42.31 | haste | yeh |
16:42.32 | Mikma | ckknight: raptor strike on my lvl1-2 hunter turned Attacking off when used while AutoAttack was loaded. Wan't me to submit a bug on portal? |
16:42.36 | Tain | Wow I am using Google Notebook a lot, it's great. |
16:42.49 | wereHamster | and I don't know what do do about it. I can't convince myself to support such a braindead system like CTRA (even though it's a de-facto standart) .. these security issues could be resolved so that nobody could find out the generated channel name.. |
16:42.52 | Wobin | Tain: Is that the one where you can c/p from webpages? |
16:43.30 | Wobin | wereHamster: Can't you see what channels you're subscribed to on the chatframe dropdown? |
16:43.44 | haste | and through /chatlist |
16:43.47 | wereHamster | yes, sure.. |
16:43.49 | Wobin | Or are you talking about from the outside |
16:43.58 | Wobin | (ie noone without the addon would be able to tell) |
16:44.33 | Tain | Yeah Wobin, it can copy entire sections of webpages formatted nicely and all. |
16:44.43 | wereHamster | because the channel name that is now generates uses only the leader name.. I also could include the whole raid setup, do some checksums etc.. that should ensure a unique and secure channel name |
16:44.51 | Tain | But I'm also using it just to make notes of things in general and I can access them anywhere else |
16:44.57 | Wobin | Is the security such an issue? |
16:45.02 | wereHamster | apparently.. |
16:45.09 | Wobin | o_O |
16:45.38 | Wobin | I would say that anyone using your library for secure communication should encrypt the commnication themselves |
16:45.41 | wereHamster | see http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1455.msg26453.html#msg26453 |
16:47.01 | Ratbert_CP | Lua-PKI! Whoot! Who wants to develop the CA for WoW? :-P |
16:47.37 | Wobin | Lua-PK? |
16:47.45 | Ratbert_CP | PKI |
16:48.07 | Ratbert_CP | Public Key encryption for communications. X.509 certificates, and all that jazz |
16:48.46 | Elkano | wobin, wtf is a GnoffBar? |
16:48.49 | Ratbert_CP | Required by Sarbanes-Oxley, HIPPA, PCI, etc... |
16:48.52 | Wobin | Energy Ticker |
16:49.04 | Elkano | hmm |
16:49.14 | Wobin | wereHamster: It's a pity you can't find the 'load' of a channel =\ |
16:49.31 | Elkano | what exactly does it do? |
16:49.34 | Wobin | ie "This channel has sent X messages in the last Y minutes" |
16:50.05 | Wobin | graphically tracks energy regen, and combo points, while changing colour if you mouse over an action that has sufficient energy to execute |
16:50.23 | wereHamster | Wobin, that's why I created specs for three channels.. guild, raid and sync. sync channel for potentially high traffic addons.. and raid for the usual raid stuff.. |
16:51.08 | Wobin | are those the actual channels you're using or arbitary names for the messageload? |
16:51.18 | Elkano | ah, that thing :) didn't it have another name before? |
16:51.20 | Wobin | like "light/medium/heavy"? |
16:51.29 | Wobin | Elkano: Not afaik =) |
16:51.41 | Elkano | hmm |
16:51.42 | Wobin | I'm pretty sure I named it GonffBar relatively early |
16:52.04 | wereHamster | names you can use when creating a channel module.. guild channel is a unique channel for the guild etc.. |
16:52.23 | Wobin | ah |
16:52.39 | Wobin | We're still up against the 10channel limit though =( |
16:53.01 | wereHamster | so if you're writing an addon that will send lots of synchronization you'll choose sync.. |
16:53.48 | Wobin | What about global addons? |
16:54.07 | wereHamster | well.. suppose you have GuildEventManager, CTRA and a damagemeters channel, you're already using three channels.. |
16:54.11 | Elkano | wobin, I'm planing HiveMindLib for that |
16:54.25 | Wobin | Elkano: What'll it do? |
16:54.45 | wereHamster | global addons? you mean for the whole realm? |
16:54.47 | Wobin | (If you say, fake a channel so that other comm mods get channeled into a single channel, I'll love you for it) |
16:55.03 | Wobin | Well, say like FlagRSP |
16:55.09 | Wobin | (or whatever it's called =)) |
16:55.12 | wereHamster | don't know.. |
16:55.16 | Wobin | It's not a guild specific addon |
16:55.22 | Wobin | just ... global |
16:55.30 | Wobin | in that it communicates with everyone else who has the addon |
16:55.41 | Wobin | kinda of like GEM |
16:55.41 | Mikma | hmm there was this brilliant communication-addon i saw months ago |
16:56.03 | Wobin | Cause we use GEM for raiding, but it's more a loose collection of people in our timezone, not a single guild |
16:56.08 | wereHamster | I don't know if that won't produce too much traffic.. |
16:56.09 | Wobin | (well we -did- anyway) |
16:56.23 | Wobin | Well, there will be mods that will need it =\ |
16:56.24 | Mikma | the addon used same channel but you could still make it not to mix with other addons |
16:56.41 | Wobin | Mikma: Sorry? |
16:56.46 | wereHamster | but if you don't have a clear scope, generating a channel name will be difficult... |
16:56.54 | Mikma | Wobin: you're excused.. hehe |
16:57.02 | Wobin | yes |
16:57.23 | Elkano | Wobin -> http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5010 ? |
16:57.46 | Mikma | Wobin: there was this communication-addon i saw months ago, i like the idea of it, you can make addons use it so they all use the same sync-channel but still the addons won't get mixed by other addons using the same channel to sync |
16:58.02 | Mikma | hard to explain, i should find it so you could read and understand yourself |
16:58.20 | Wobin | I wonder... |
16:58.38 | Wobin | Could you possibly hook an addons' hooks for the communication channel |
16:58.49 | Wobin | and redirect the info to your own channel? |
16:59.02 | Mikma | the whole idea was you could call the addon like this: addon:sendmessage("youraddon","text") and addon:receivemessage("youraddon","text) |
16:59.05 | Wobin | So the addons would -think- they're chatting to their own specific channel.... |
16:59.16 | wereHamster | Mikma, that's my addon ;) |
16:59.29 | Mikma | wereHamster: really? :D url please :) |
16:59.32 | Wobin | Ah, the problem would be all the addons would have to use it |
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16:59.38 | Wobin | which wouldn't work =P |
16:59.57 | wereHamster | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2606-1-commchannel.html .. but that's an older version.. not embedded |
17:01.34 | Mikma | wereHamster: well i don't think it was that, but very much like it |
17:02.25 | Mikma | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2870-1-globalcomm.html |
17:02.26 | Mikma | found it |
17:02.50 | Mikma | i think the idea in that addon is great |
17:04.05 | wereHamster | one channel for all players.. imagine 10 raids and all sending their messages to this one channel.. |
17:04.46 | Wobin | See that's the problem most people aren't thinking of |
17:04.49 | Mikma | the channel would really be stuffed up |
17:04.53 | Wobin | Overloading the channel |
17:05.14 | Mikma | but for addons with minimal syncneed that would be great |
17:05.33 | Wobin | hey... how about using channels that are currently in use... |
17:05.38 | Wobin | Sort of a peer to peer thing? |
17:06.08 | Wobin | hm |
17:06.14 | Wobin | still a problem in setting up initial communication |
17:06.17 | Wobin | (without spam) |
17:06.24 | wereHamster | and a too big delay.. |
17:06.56 | Wobin | well, I was initially thinking that your addon gets a list of channels currently in use by your users |
17:07.15 | Wobin | and then tries to create a network to send out using those channels |
17:07.31 | wereHamster | and then spams the General - Ironforge channel? |
17:07.36 | Wobin | hehe |
17:07.44 | Mikma | why of course! |
17:07.50 | Mikma | ain't that the purpose of the channel |
17:07.52 | Wobin | well, more piggybacking on existing addon channels |
17:08.25 | Mikma | blizzard should allow more than 10 channels :P |
17:08.41 | Wobin | for a raid for example, you could send a synch message over the raid channel, and everyone who has the addon then sends hidden whispers to you with a channel list |
17:09.48 | wereHamster | Elkano, creating a new spec for a CommChannel global channel wouldn't be that hard.. see for yourself how easy it is to create a channel spec ;) http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/CommChannel/Lib/CommChannelSpecs.lua |
17:09.50 | Wobin | Or just use whispers |
17:11.29 | Elkano | well, wereHamster, I basicly need one channel and whispers, best would be both with a queue that I can fill from the addon and then 'forget' |
17:12.10 | Tain | haha poor druids. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/rainbow_dragon/Warcraft/bareattack.jpg |
17:12.46 | wereHamster | I had a buffering code in CommChannel.. but I removed it.. |
17:13.58 | kergoth | the one annoying thing about the use of whispers is if someone stops running the addon, but is inadvertantly still in the channel, they can get spammed. itemdb does that |
17:15.08 | Wobin | ACK perhaps? |
17:15.14 | Wobin | if no ACK then stop sending? |
17:15.21 | wereHamster | why does it send whispers when it also uses a channel? |
17:15.24 | Wobin | (granted, that doubles communication) |
17:15.45 | kergoth | that sounds like it has a fair amount of overhead. i'd just broadcast an "i exist!" at channel join, and when new people log on |
17:15.58 | kergoth | then if the addon isnt running, that doesnt occur |
17:16.40 | kergoth | "As an adolescent I aspired to lasting fame, I craved factual certainty, and I thirsted for a meaningful vision of human life - so I became a scientist. This is like becoming an archbishop so you can meet girls." |
17:17.43 | MoonWolf | lol |
17:17.50 | MoonWolf | who are you qouting ? |
17:18.05 | Mikma | dear god i hope he's not quoting himself |
17:18.18 | MoonWolf | kergoth is a programmer, not a scientist. |
17:18.27 | kergoth | M. Cartmill, whoever that is |
17:18.42 | MoonWolf | sthe anology is good. |
17:19.03 | wereHamster | .. HealSync already as the hooks in place to properly catch all spellcasts.. but I need CreateFrame("Tooltip") .. so it will be disabled until 1.11 |
17:19.38 | wereHamster | have to go... be back in ~1h |
17:19.44 | Elkano | kergoth nobody told me about that :( |
17:19.59 | kergoth | hehe, sorry, i keep meaning to submit a bug report, but i get distracted |
17:20.27 | Elkano | but it won't spam you because of you beeing in the channel but because of you being still queued |
17:20.40 | kergoth | ah |
17:21.01 | Elkano | since whispers are always a reaction, either to a message so sent into the channel or a whisper recived |
17:21.08 | kergoth | actually, i've seen my brother get spam from itemdb whispers even while running itemdb, but i dont think that was with current versions :) |
17:21.15 | Tain | What we need is an Ace bug reporting addon. |
17:21.51 | Elkano | hmm, I've hooked the standard chat frame to not display whispers containing key words :/ |
17:21.53 | Tain | File your bugs in-game when they happen with whatever detail, saves to your save vars, export to wowi or whatever. |
17:22.23 | kergoth | Elkano: shrug, i'll let ya know if i manage to reproduce it again |
17:24.01 | Wobin | Tain: That would imply that Ace is buggy =) |
17:31.42 | Wobin | Industrial: You around? |
17:31.58 | Industrial | yes |
17:32.23 | Wobin | Can I get a link to your Vim profiles again? |
17:32.49 | Industrial | sure |
17:33.19 | Industrial | digigen.nl/~Industrial/linux |
17:33.42 | Wobin | Thanks =) |
17:33.49 | Industrial | I should pack my latest - just tweaks to ym setup |
17:33.50 | Industrial | np |
17:34.04 | kergoth | wonder if theres anything in there that i dont have. should check :) |
17:34.49 | Mikma | hmm seems like angler won't work anymore? |
17:39.03 | Industrial | http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/tekken/tekken-with-actual-humans-178609.php |
17:40.06 | kergoth | i love you, gvimdiff |
17:41.22 | Wobin | hehe |
17:41.26 | Wobin | love the wall with the chicks on it |
17:42.23 | Wobin | I actually recognise that taichi pattern =P |
17:46.05 | Wobin | This is really cool =) |
17:46.09 | Wobin | I'm impressed |
17:46.35 | Mikma | ooh FishButton is lovely |
17:47.04 | Wobin | hah! |
17:47.05 | Wobin | I was right |
17:47.09 | Wobin | chen style taichi |
17:48.02 | Mikma | hehe i just realized that no wonder why the actionbar changing won't work.. the code is misshng |
17:48.11 | Mikma | + small typo in the end ;) |
17:49.47 | Wobin | hehe that's what I was learning earlier this year |
17:50.11 | Mikma | martial arts? :) |
17:50.15 | Wobin | taichi |
17:50.34 | Wobin | taijichuan |
17:51.02 | Mikma | hmm seems like AceLoot is being misplaced by some pixels |
17:56.43 | Mikma | fook! i have deleted the code :( |
17:56.56 | kergoth | what code? |
17:59.48 | Mikma | actionbar swap for stances/stealth/shapshift |
18:00.45 | kergoth | ah |
18:00.47 | kergoth | :( |
18:01.05 | kergoth | doesnt that just change all the button ids? |
18:01.31 | Mikma | dunno |
18:06.05 | Tain | I hate actionbar swapping. It's so ugly. |
18:06.31 | Mikma | i hate it too |
18:06.44 | Mikma | but atm bonusactionbar goes over actionbar when shapeshifted |
18:06.57 | Mikma | i had a complete code for it but i lost it in HDD crash |
18:09.14 | Mikma | heh, seems like my friend has MAMi 1.0 code on his pc |
18:09.19 | Mikma | let's hope it's in there ;) |
18:12.38 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com) |
18:12.39 | Kaelten | ckknight: I use cracked software. Type "/msg Kaelten !assclown <msg>" to make me disconnect from IRC with the message of your choice and shut off my computer. |
18:13.58 | Mikma | that's cool... |
18:14.11 | MoonWolf | not really |
18:14.42 | Wobin | ? |
18:14.44 | MoonWolf | having peole disconnect you is not that fun. |
18:14.58 | Mikma | but of course it is |
18:15.25 | Tain | Someone already tried to do it I think so I don't think it actually works. |
18:15.36 | Tain | It's just absurdly annoying. |
18:16.19 | kergoth | methinks kael should get a better irc client, like xchat |
18:16.33 | MoonWolf | i agree |
18:16.42 | Tain | At least I know for sure what irc client I won't ever be getting. |
18:16.49 | kergoth | indeed |
18:17.24 | Wobin | What software is he using? |
18:17.35 | kergoth | 15:16 CTCP VERSION reply from Kaelten: Klient 2.1.4 (www.klient.com) |
18:17.47 | Tain | Yeah, it's a Windows IRC client. |
18:18.16 | Tain | The author used to have even more nonsense in there when it detected a "cracked" version, it looks like they were removed. |
18:18.19 | Mikma | cool my friend had MAMi1, here's the code i was missing in mami2: http://pastebin.com/706993 |
18:18.37 | haste | It looks like HydraIRC, only not free |
18:18.44 | Mikma | that swaps bonusactionbar and actionbar on rogues/warriors/druids etc |
18:19.02 | Tain | haha this is awesome. According to data from the NPD Group: |
18:19.04 | Tain | "In May, the PS2 sold approximately 232,000 units to the Xbox 360's 221,000." |
18:19.31 | *** join/#wowace maia (n=maia@84.112.137.81) |
18:19.31 | Kaelten | maia: I use cracked software. Type "/msg Kaelten !assclown <msg>" to make me disconnect from IRC with the message of your choice and shut off my computer. |
18:19.47 | maia | huh? |
18:19.53 | haste | that will become really annoying in the long run |
18:20.17 | MoonWolf | YEAH |
18:20.40 | *** kick/#wowace [Kaelten!n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl] by MoonWolf (Sorry, but having you spam that message would get really annoying. ) |
18:20.54 | Mikma | umh, you know, i thought it was a joke |
18:21.01 | Mikma | but seems like it's not :D |
18:21.07 | haste | so did I at start |
18:21.11 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=kaelten@68.63.3.183) |
18:21.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
18:21.19 | haste | auto-join :( |
18:21.23 | Mikma | someone try the !assclown |
18:21.29 | haste | no, that's just evil |
18:21.43 | Mikma | so's "onjoin-spam" ;D |
18:22.49 | MoonWolf | looks like it |
18:22.57 | MoonWolf | and i dont really want to ban him either. |
18:22.57 | kergoth | MoonWolf: just do a tempban for a few hours |
18:23.06 | Mikma | knockout is nice |
18:23.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*n=kaelten@68.63.3.*] by MoonWolf |
18:23.26 | *** kick/#wowace [Kaelten!n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl] by MoonWolf (Sorry, give me a pm when its fixed.) |
18:23.58 | Tain | If you do it through chanserv he can also undo it himself when he's back. |
18:24.15 | MoonWolf | he can undo it anyway |
18:24.18 | MoonWolf | he is channel owner. |
18:24.29 | kergoth | chanserv is the better way anyway, no point keeping +b's ont he channel all the time. chanserv will add them when needed adn remove when not |
18:24.46 | *** mode/#wowace [-b *!*n=kaelten@68.63.3.*] by MoonWolf |
18:25.05 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl) |
18:25.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
18:25.07 | kergoth | foo |
18:25.55 | MoonWolf | wrong buttonz |
18:34.04 | *** part/#wowace maia (n=maia@84.112.137.81) |
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18:34.14 | maia | MoonWolf: Type "/msg Maia !assclown <msg>" to make me disconnect from IRC with the message of your choice and shut off my computer. |
18:34.29 | Mikma | umh |
18:34.40 | Wobin | ... |
18:34.53 | maia | :) |
18:34.57 | Wobin | =P |
18:35.00 | MoonWolf | you are faking it. |
18:35.09 | Mikma | no he's not, kick! ;D |
18:35.10 | maia | certainly I am. |
18:35.11 | Wobin | You forgot to say you're using cracked software =P |
18:35.27 | maia | well, I'm not using cracked software ;) |
18:35.44 | MoonWolf | minor details. |
18:36.38 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2733 10MrPlow/ (. MrPlow.toc MrPlowFu.lua icon.tga): MrPlow - Put the fubar plugin into the main package |
18:38.44 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2734 10MrPlow/ (MrPlow.lua MrPlow.toc): MrPlow - And as usual I forget to upgrade the version |
18:46.02 | Tain | I almost want to make something to run /mrplow theworks every single time I close my bag. |
18:46.14 | MoonWolf | lol |
18:46.19 | MoonWolf | cant be hard to do. |
18:47.02 | Tain | Maybe just plow instead |
18:48.37 | Wobin | The function is easily callable =) |
18:49.03 | Wobin | Just call MrPlow:Defrag() for plowing |
18:49.39 | Wobin | You can click on the minimap button to theworks now |
18:49.46 | Wobin | (and click again to cancel) |
18:50.05 | kergoth | ooh, sweet |
18:50.11 | MoonWolf | canceling |
18:50.12 | MoonWolf | cool |
18:50.29 | kergoth | oh, is mrplow still broken wrt the enchanting bag? |
18:50.43 | kergoth | mine halts the plow half way through and gets error messages about equippinjg more than one of those bags |
18:52.18 | Wobin | really? |
18:52.20 | Wobin | hm |
18:52.30 | Mikma | now there is a surprised person |
18:53.07 | kergoth | it seems to then finish up the plow, but it definately seems to stall for a bit when it encounters it |
18:54.21 | Wobin | I've been testing on my enchanter, but have never come across this error =( |
18:54.34 | Wobin | Is your enchanting bag the last one? |
18:54.43 | kergoth | i think so, yes |
18:54.48 | Wobin | =\ |
18:54.51 | kergoth | 24 slotter, iirc |
18:55.43 | Mikma | hmm CardBars 1.3 ain't downloadable anymore |
18:55.49 | Wobin | PS anyone else know of the Interface\Addons\Fubar\SEEmbedKeys\SEEmbed... error? |
18:56.03 | Mikma | Wobin: update metrognome |
18:56.19 | Mikma | Wobin: you use ouf + fubar? |
18:56.27 | Wobin | Aye, but it's not my error =) |
19:07.33 | Gngsk | I got rid of that error by using fubar from svn |
19:07.53 | Gngsk | was previously using one from wowi |
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19:13.00 | Wobin | Interface\Addons\Fubar\SEEmbedKeys\SEEmbed... |
19:13.02 | Wobin | er |
19:13.20 | Mikma | update oUF2 metrognome |
19:13.24 | Wobin | http://worstmmorpgever.ytmnd.com/ |
19:15.13 | Wobin | http://www.magneticinkcomics.com/moreDots.mp3 |
19:15.17 | Wobin | NPSFW |
19:16.37 | kergoth | P? |
19:16.47 | Wobin | Particularly |
19:16.51 | kergoth | ah. |
19:16.56 | Wobin | But if you've got earphones you should be fine |
19:17.01 | Wobin | since it's an mp3 |
19:17.51 | wereHamster | re |
19:20.16 | maia | hmm. what's wrong with: local t = frame:SetNormalTexture("Interface\\QuestFrame\\UI-QuestTitleHighlight"); t:SetVertexColor(1,1,1,0.5) |
19:20.27 | maia | ( attempt to index local `t' (a nil value) ) |
19:21.25 | wereHamster | maia, does SetNormalTexture have a return value? |
19:21.30 | Wobin | I don't believe it does |
19:21.38 | Wobin | Do you want CreateTexture? |
19:22.02 | maia | I want to change the alpha of the texture, thats all. |
19:22.31 | Wobin | Is the texture already created? |
19:22.31 | Mikma | hmm.. anyone remember who modded SCT here? |
19:22.56 | maia | Wobin: I assume it is. Don't I create it with the above? At least it's shown properly. |
19:23.17 | Wobin | SetNormalTexture doesn't return the texture object |
19:23.24 | Wobin | Is that a button? |
19:23.32 | maia | or maybe I should CreateTexture() first then... thanks. |
19:23.45 | maia | Wobin: yup. well, not really. a unit frame in squishy. |
19:24.10 | Wobin | yeah, use CreateTexture first then use the object ref in the SetNormalTexture |
19:25.57 | maia | hmm, so I create an empty texture via CreateTexture() and then use SetNormalTexture(<path>) ? |
19:28.38 | Wobin | nono |
19:29.12 | Wobin | local t = frame:CreateTexture(<path>); frame:SetNormalTexture(t); t:SetVertexColor(1,1,1,0.5) |
19:29.43 | Wobin | and you might want to save the reference to t if you're modifying it later |
19:29.46 | maia | ah! |
19:29.52 | wereHamster | not t:SetNormalTexture() ? |
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19:30.10 | Wobin | Isn't frame the 'button'? |
19:30.18 | wereHamster | ah.. you're right |
19:30.21 | Wobin | (ie it's a button uiobject) |
19:32.04 | maia | hmm. no error message, but it's not working either. |
19:32.34 | maia | local t = frame:CreateTexture("Interface\\QuestFrame\\UI-QuestTitleHighlight"); frame:SetPushedTexture(t); frame:SetHighlightTexture(t) |
19:32.48 | maia | that should highlight the area on mouseover, right? |
19:34.27 | maia | interestingly frame:SetHighlightTexture("Interface\\QuestFrame\\UI-QuestTitleHighlight") does work. but not the above. |
19:36.48 | maia | as I can toggle the pushed state (which I didnt know before) I don't need to change the vertex anymore, but still this is confusing as I don't know how to reference a texture to modify it later. |
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19:39.40 | Cairenn | if Kaelten arrives (for real), let him know I'll get in touch with him later to sort out the issue with the #wowi-lounge channel |
19:40.47 | maia | is he using cracked software? ;p |
19:42.19 | Wobin | maia maybe t:Show() ? |
19:42.23 | Cairenn | unfortunately, I can't ban him from this channel, my access level isn't high enough and I'm not a "contact", so if he does show up in here and starts the same thing, I can't do anything about it |
19:42.40 | maia | Cairenn: it happened here an hour ago or so. we temp-banned him |
19:42.53 | maia | (well, MoonWolf did) |
19:43.00 | maia | Wobin: hmm. |
19:43.05 | Cairenn | I'm surprised you were able to, since he has the highest access |
19:43.23 | Cairenn | anyway, good to hear |
19:43.36 | Wobin | --- MoonWolf sets ban on *!*n=kaelten@68.63.3.* |
19:47.19 | maia | a few days ago someone asked if it was faster to :Hide() or check for IsVisible() first to then optionally hide - did we get results? |
19:48.06 | Wobin | I'd say the former, no? |
19:48.11 | Wobin | Since it's one function call |
19:48.28 | Wobin | rather than at most two |
19:49.10 | maia | testing |
19:51.19 | Tain | Pretty sure Iriel tested that at one point and said just doing the :Hide() was faster. |
19:51.37 | maia | yup, thats right. |
19:51.56 | maia | IsVisible() is about 25% overhead. |
19:52.31 | ckknight_ | hey all |
19:52.47 | Shyva | yow |
19:54.58 | Industrial | *pokes Mikma* |
19:55.03 | Mikma | kekek |
19:55.55 | Mikma | np: Alice Cooper - Poison |
19:56.20 | Mikma | the funny thing is i'm really listening a house-dj set :P |
19:56.39 | Industrial | psyclon nine - tyranny |
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20:02.09 | maia | Mikma: that sounds like electroclash to me. |
20:02.39 | Mikma | !assclown :P |
20:03.04 | Mikma | sorry, not you lol |
20:03.20 | Mikma | it just did come in my mind |
20:28.33 | maia | hmm. I can't properly find a way to toggle button textures (pushed, normal) |
20:30.02 | maia | if I SetPushedTexture, do I also need to SetNormalTexture() - and if yes, how do I set an empty texture? |
20:32.33 | maia | hmm, guess everyone is watching soccer. |
20:33.03 | hyperChipmunk | yarr |
20:40.16 | Wobin | nil |
20:40.26 | Wobin | SetNormalTexture(nil) |
20:45.22 | maia | Wobin: my problem: when using f:SetButtonState("NORMAL") the pushed texture is still displayed |
20:45.42 | maia | shouldnt it only display the PushedTexture when the ButtonState is PUSHED? |
20:45.51 | Wobin | technically yes =) |
20:45.55 | maia | but? |
20:46.06 | Wobin | I'm not sure exactly why it wouldn't |
20:46.16 | Wobin | Do we have GetButtonState yet? |
20:46.39 | maia | yes. and I did check, its NORMAL |
20:46.45 | maia | but the pushed texture is still shown |
20:47.54 | maia | hmm. |
20:47.55 | Wobin | Does it change if you manually call SetButtonState? |
20:48.18 | maia | I only use SetButtonState |
20:48.26 | maia | well, I hope it doesnt catch clicks. |
20:48.53 | maia | you do know Squishy? Your target is always highlighted in the frame. That's what I'm trying to do. |
20:49.20 | maia | when updating the frames, compare if unit == target, and if yes, SetButtonState("PUSHED") else NORMAL |
20:49.33 | Wobin | I've never had great luck in getting my textures to do what I want...=\ |
20:50.18 | maia | hm. so I can neither find a way to properly reference a texture to modify it, nor find out why a pushed texture is shown on a normal state. gah. |
20:53.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
20:59.43 | *** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-59-191-241.twcny.res.rr.com) |
21:00.49 | ckknight | hey cladhaire |
21:01.44 | wereHamster | hey clad.. I've been using PerfectRaid for the last few days.. any chance you could update the version in trunk? |
21:01.47 | hyperChipmunk | awesome |
21:02.00 | hyperChipmunk | ESPN2 showing the 2005 World Domino Tournament |
21:02.20 | cladhaire | wereHamster: What do you mean? |
21:02.51 | cladhaire | job interview monday... yay! |
21:02.59 | cladhaire | ckknight: Heyas |
21:03.03 | kergoth | nice, good luck |
21:03.10 | hyperChipmunk | trunk is usable |
21:03.10 | hyperChipmunk | only a few errors |
21:03.37 | ckknight | yea, good luck, clad |
21:03.57 | CIA-12 | 03uruloke * r2735 10ArcHUD/ (19 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
21:03.58 | CIA-12 | ArcHUD |
21:03.58 | CIA-12 | - New options: - Show/Hide buffs (two options, one for target, one for party) |
21:03.58 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
21:03.58 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
21:03.58 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
21:04.00 | CIA-12 | - Cleaned up the code a bit |
21:04.40 | Industrial | I dont like how archud is like, arced :E |
21:04.51 | ckknight | arced? |
21:05.33 | cladhaire | kergoth: Its very much up my alley with what I like to do, and a big step up from the monkey position i'm in now, and closer to where i was two years ago (http://ace.pastebin.com/707374) |
21:06.57 | kergoth | it doesnt like me, timing out |
21:08.05 | cladhaire | pastebin.ca work for you? |
21:08.22 | Wobin | aiee |
21:08.25 | Wobin | working in a uni |
21:08.32 | kergoth | looks that way, yep |
21:08.34 | cladhaire | http://pastebin.ca/65250 |
21:08.42 | cladhaire | Wobin: I love higher education. |
21:08.50 | cladhaire | Wobin: I work as an admin for them.. and teach on teh side. |
21:08.55 | Wobin | But... but... dealing with students... |
21:09.17 | MoonWolf | keal ha been unbanned for some time now |
21:09.27 | MoonWolf | yust had to keep the ban up long enough for the retry's to stop. |
21:09.30 | cladhaire | MoonWolf: I can kick him again, and make him rejoin =) |
21:09.32 | cladhaire | *cackle* |
21:09.49 | Amadeo | Is the ArcHUD authoer in here? |
21:09.49 | MoonWolf | hehe |
21:09.53 | kergoth | cladhaire: ah cool |
21:09.56 | Amadeo | er |
21:09.58 | Amadeo | author, too |
21:10.06 | wereHamster | cladhaire, the last rev of PerfectRaid in /trunk is ~1200 .. the versions in /branch/PerfectRaid/... are much newer.. |
21:10.24 | cladhaire | wereHamster: Yeah, and they dont work =) |
21:10.38 | cladhaire | wereHamster: It works if you want nothing more than a raid UI that you can't configure at all.. and can only click to target =) |
21:11.10 | kergoth | i'm thinking about pursuing a software architect type role. sit between teh engineers and management, make architectural decisions on the design of the systems, and let the engineers actually implement it, since that part bores me :P |
21:11.25 | Wobin | ~seen uruloke |
21:11.37 | purl | i haven't seen 'uruloke', Wobin |
21:11.37 | cladhaire | The priority at the moment is Get Sleep Cause 90 hours of work in one week sucks > Get a New Job Cause THis One Sucks > CGo to the gym > Clique > PerfectRaid > WatchDog |
21:11.37 | wereHamster | are the bugs known and easy to fix? |
21:11.38 | Wobin | ~last uruloke |
21:11.39 | MoonWolf | kergoth, but that means less cool code. |
21:11.39 | cladhaire | kergoth: See, I love being the admin and codemonkey at the same time. |
21:11.47 | cladhaire | wereHamster: What bugs.. the features aren't there.. its a rewrite. |
21:11.51 | cladhaire | its THIS close |
21:11.52 | wereHamster | ah.. |
21:11.55 | cladhaire | but i have a priority list atm |
21:11.57 | cladhaire | sadly |
21:11.58 | cladhaire | it will be coming. |
21:12.00 | wereHamster | kk.. |
21:12.06 | kergoth | MoonWolf: i'll do cool code on my own time :) |
21:12.08 | cladhaire | CLique is a worthwhile diversion |
21:12.09 | cladhaire | trust me |
21:12.24 | MoonWolf | kergoth, good point. |
21:12.42 | cladhaire | I'd like a job where I dont need to code libraries and addons for WoW to get my intellectual stimulation. |
21:12.44 | cladhaire | that would make me happy |
21:12.47 | cladhaire | and be able to IRC at work |
21:12.47 | kergoth | half the time they dont give you the time to do the code properly, cleanly, and elegantly when doing so at work |
21:12.51 | cladhaire | which i can do there. |
21:12.53 | kergoth | if they would, i might not hate it as much |
21:13.03 | cladhaire | kergoth: Thats why higher edi is a whole different ballgae |
21:13.11 | cladhaire | driven by research and innovation instead of bottom line. |
21:13.18 | kergoth | thats true |
21:13.46 | kergoth | at one point i was talking to the engineering manager at nokia's linux lab in norway... was gonna see about applying for a position (they contacted me in the past about my openembedded project being used there for somethign or other) |
21:13.53 | kergoth | but its fucking cold out there |
21:14.00 | MoonWolf | hehe |
21:14.01 | cladhaire | haha |
21:14.17 | MoonWolf | norway is a cool place |
21:14.24 | MoonWolf | :P |
21:14.45 | kergoth | my ancestry, all swedish and norwegian.. would be good to go there sometime, and iceland as well, but i dunno about moving there :) |
21:15.29 | MoonWolf | the houses there are great, or so my uncle told me. |
21:15.44 | MoonWolf | ofcourse, a city is a city is a city |
21:15.53 | kergoth | quite |
21:16.35 | kergoth | i like it in the phoenix area so far. the large amount of sun agrees with me, since my moods are so driven by the weather |
21:16.43 | MoonWolf | why does the damn background download recheck my last patch every time i start wow. |
21:16.48 | kergoth | i'm thinking about seeing if i can telework for the top position at http://www.openedhand.com/jobs/ |
21:16.48 | MoonWolf | cant it flag it as done or something. |
21:17.04 | kergoth | what's it do, anyway? i generally move it away so it wont run |
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21:20.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
21:20.39 | hyperChipmunk | downloads patch stuff as they complete it, instead of all on patch day |
21:20.49 | kergoth | ah |
21:20.52 | hyperChipmunk | there's about 97mb worth downloaded by the downloader |
21:21.04 | hyperChipmunk | of 1.11 |
21:22.03 | MoonWolf | 127 here |
21:22.22 | Amadeo | hahahahaha |
21:22.35 | hyperChipmunk | oh, you're right |
21:22.36 | Amadeo | Vanguard: SoH went with SOE |
21:22.37 | hyperChipmunk | 128mb |
21:22.41 | Amadeo | That's awful |
21:22.43 | MoonWolf | Amadeo, ooooold news. |
21:22.46 | MoonWolf | but yeah |
21:22.49 | MoonWolf | not good. |
21:22.49 | Amadeo | oh well |
21:22.54 | Amadeo | could have been a good game, now it's trash |
21:23.07 | kergoth | "The thing that has always disturbed me abuot O_DIRECT is that the whole interface is just stupid, and was probably designed by a deranged monkey on some serious mind controlling substance." -- Linus |
21:23.11 | kergoth | (from the open() man page0 |
21:23.12 | MoonWolf | instant fucked up economy as EQ players convert theyr money to vangaurd money. |
21:23.16 | kergoth | s/0$/)/ |
21:23.34 | Amadeo | MoonWolf: Yep, not to mention...Brad McQuaid was finally lured into the company he tried to escape |
21:23.40 | Amadeo | so there must have been some big dollar signs |
21:23.49 | MoonWolf | no doubt. |
21:24.11 | MoonWolf | at least microsoft had no bad reputation |
21:24.17 | MoonWolf | it yust wanted to make it vista only |
21:24.22 | MoonWolf | another bad thing (tm) |
21:24.34 | MoonWolf | but maybe they actually have enough brains to not fuck it up. |
21:24.48 | Amadeo | MMOG's take so long to make that the graphics look amazing when they introduce it, then when it finally comes out it's outdated |
21:25.13 | MoonWolf | i dont play mmorpgs for graphics |
21:25.26 | hyperChipmunk | graphics are the most important, so they get done first, duh |
21:25.43 | Amadeo | hm |
21:25.52 | Amadeo | Vanguard is looking pretty EQ2'ish |
21:25.54 | Amadeo | same engine now? |
21:26.01 | MoonWolf | wow has a nice thing for graphics, the style is so unique that actual detail matters a lot less |
21:26.07 | MoonWolf | as compared to eq. |
21:26.13 | MoonWolf | eq2 |
21:26.31 | MoonWolf | the cartoonish style simply looks good longer. |
21:26.37 | MoonWolf | like wc3 |
21:26.39 | Amadeo | yeah, I agree |
21:27.20 | Amadeo | brb |
21:28.11 | MoonWolf | kergoth, who designed the O_DIRECT interface ? linux himself ? |
21:28.45 | MoonWolf | k |
21:36.47 | kergoth | looks like i'll be getting the official job offer to move to a direct hire position here within the week. looks like around a $7-8k raise to the salary |
21:37.33 | Tain | kergoth did you get yourself an actual apartment yet? |
21:37.43 | MoonWolf | damn |
21:37.45 | MoonWolf | thats a nice raise. |
21:38.17 | ckknight | kergoth, would you disagree with me adding .virtual and .sealed to classes? |
21:38.22 | kergoth | Tain: no, i spent my savings on debt. just mailed my damn tax return today (idiot tax guy didnt send it in electronically, he MAILED IT TO ME, so i could send it. wtf?) |
21:38.52 | ckknight | also, why aren't you in the ace2 channel? |
21:39.00 | Mikma | anyone remembers who's the person who modded SCT to have the gui load on demand? |
21:39.04 | MoonWolf | people are actually talking today :O |
21:39.42 | kergoth | honestly with all the drama and people not listening, i care less and less about ace2. i have other projects to work on |
21:39.48 | kergoth | so i parted |
21:40.10 | ckknight | okay. |
21:47.37 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2736 10AceLibrary/AceOO.lua: AceOO - added sealed and virtual classes. |
21:48.47 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2737 10AceLibrary/ (AceOO-sealed-1.lua AceOO-virtual-1.lua): AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceOO-sealed-1.lua and AceOO-virtual-1.lua |
21:49.05 | Wobin | ckknight: How do I get a radiobutton set to work in DewDrop? |
21:49.29 | ckknight | Wobin, um, set isRadio to true on the buttons |
21:49.35 | Wobin | yeah |
21:49.42 | ckknight | that's about it |
21:49.58 | ckknight | it just changes the image |
21:50.01 | Wobin | I'm getting a tiny circle |
21:50.06 | Wobin | for all of them |
21:50.07 | ckknight | yea |
21:50.17 | ckknight | is one set to checked? |
21:50.30 | ckknight | isChecked I think |
21:51.03 | Wobin | 'checked'? |
21:51.16 | ckknight | probably. |
21:52.26 | Wobin | ah, okay, my checked function is not working |
21:52.35 | ckknight | hrm |
21:52.48 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2738 10AceLibrary/AceOO.lua: AceOO - better logic for setting virtual = false |
21:52.59 | ckknight | good times |
21:53.08 | MoonWolf | oh yes |
21:53.30 | kergoth | goddamnit, i cant find the OOo form of my resume, only the pdf :( |
21:53.36 | kergoth | i think the original is on the machien thats down in MN |
21:54.06 | hyperChipmunk | I just finished doing up my resume in TeX x |
21:54.09 | hyperChipmunk | =x |
21:54.17 | ckknight | that sucks, kergoth |
21:54.18 | kergoth | hehe. i never got around to learning it :\ |
21:54.18 | MoonWolf | TeX? ? |
21:54.26 | hyperChipmunk | same |
21:54.32 | hyperChipmunk | figured it was a good opportunity |
22:01.29 | kergoth | ~emulate pinky |
22:01.31 | purl | NARF! |
22:01.34 | kergoth | :D |
22:01.50 | kergoth | ~emulate pinky |
22:01.51 | purl | NARF! |
22:01.54 | kergoth | aw |
22:01.57 | kergoth | ~emulate brain |
22:01.58 | purl | the same thing we do every week pinky |
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22:02.40 | ckknight | ~moredots |
22:02.41 | purl | you lose 50 dkp again! |
22:03.53 | MoonWolf | good |
22:03.56 | MoonWolf | i dont need it anyway |
22:06.14 | ckknight | lol |
22:06.19 | ckknight | who is [ven]? |
22:07.04 | Wobin | ~pondering |
22:07.14 | kergoth | ~emulate kergoth |
22:07.15 | purl | ACTION wields a mean spiked metal cluebat |
22:07.23 | Wobin | ~ponderings |
22:07.24 | kergoth | heh, true that |
22:07.30 | Wobin | ~ponder |
22:07.31 | purl | Wuh, I think so, wobin, but if we didn't have ears, we'd look like weasels. |
22:07.36 | kergoth | hehe |
22:07.44 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r2739 10AceLibrary/AceOO.lua: AceOO - Classes created through Classpool are now sealed. |
22:09.11 | ckknight | ~literal ponder |
22:09.12 | purl | "ponder" is "<reply> (I think so, $nick, but where are we going to find a duck and a hose at this hour?|I think so, but where will we find an open tattoo parlor at this time of night?|Wuh, I think so, $nick, but if we didn't have ears, we'd look like weasels.|Uh... yeah, $nick, but where are we going to find rubber pants our size?)" |
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22:19.28 | Wobin | ckknight: Hm, the color swatch doesn't seem to setting colours correctly |
22:19.39 | maia | hmm. GameTooltip problem: |
22:19.40 | Wobin | It just appears to jump back to the original colours |
22:19.49 | Wobin | (for dewdrop) |
22:20.11 | maia | whats the lua equivalent to <GameTooltip name="x" hidden="true" parent="UIParent" inherits="GameTooltipTemplate"> ? |
22:20.44 | kergoth | you cant do that until 1.11, afaik |
22:20.44 | Wobin | We can't create the tooltip in 1.10 |
22:20.52 | hyperChipmunk | I wasn't aware you could do tooltips or inherits in lua |
22:20.59 | maia | aww. |
22:21.13 | Wobin | maia: yeah =) that one is holding all of us back =) |
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22:21.19 | maia | thought its possible to CreateFrame("GameTooltip") |
22:21.37 | hyperChipmunk | you can make a frame that looks like a tooltip |
22:21.57 | maia | nah, I need a tooltip to parse spells |
22:22.05 | maia | gonna keep the xml file until 1.11 |
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22:23.44 | kergoth | please say you got a new irc client. please. |
22:23.56 | maia | <PROTECTED> |
22:25.22 | Kaelten | lmao |
22:25.25 | Kaelten | bah |
22:25.32 | Kaelten | damn trial ran out one day after I installed |
22:25.42 | Kaelten | then I crack it and now this |
22:25.45 | Kaelten | bah |
22:25.48 | Kaelten | I'll be back in a few |
22:25.52 | Wobin | assclown =P |
22:26.02 | Mikma | boo |
22:26.06 | Mikma | someone should have dropped him |
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22:28.42 | Wobin | graagh |
22:28.55 | Wobin | Why isn't the colorpicker keeping it's settings? |
22:29.16 | hyperChipmunk | cuz u sux |
22:29.38 | Wobin | It's all your fault |
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22:48.33 | Mikma | god damn |
22:48.42 | Mikma | something's wrong with my tooltip-mod |
22:48.53 | Mikma | when i mouseover someone i see his/her guild. |
22:49.09 | Mikma | but if i move my mouse off from the person and mouseover again the guild is missing |
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22:53.01 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2740 10GonffBar/ (. GonffBar.lua GonffBar.toc GonffBarLocals.lua): |
22:53.01 | CIA-12 | GonffBar - Now uses Dewdrop for the majority of customisability |
22:53.01 | CIA-12 | - Hopefully saves properly |
22:53.21 | Wobin | Mikma, could you test that? |
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22:53.34 | Wobin | shiftclick to move, control rightclick to pop up menu |
22:53.35 | Mikma | Wobin: yayaya sure |
22:53.40 | Mikma | btw. New Versions of SCT and SCTD will be released the day of or the day after the WoW 1.11 patch. Overall, there aren't a ton of new features, but some "basic" features that probably should have been in long ago. |
22:53.48 | Mikma | SCT |
22:53.49 | Mikma | - Options Frame is now Load on Demand. This significantly reduces SCT's size when you don't need the options menu. |
22:54.18 | kergoth | Mikma: sweet |
22:54.32 | Mikma | someone got his point through |
22:54.40 | Wobin | what is sctd? |
22:54.51 | Mikma | scrolling combat text -damage |
22:55.08 | Wobin | ... |
22:55.15 | Wobin | Any futher clarification? =) |
22:55.44 | Mikma | http://grayhoof.wowinterface.com/portal.php |
22:55.55 | Mikma | haven't had the time to look yet :) |
22:55.56 | kergoth | Wobin: it shows the damage you cause, like the blizzard default damage text |
22:55.59 | kergoth | its quite nice |
22:56.02 | Mikma | trying to get my druid to IF |
22:56.05 | kergoth | since its in the center of the screen, not over the target |
22:56.23 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/wow_007.jpg shows two plowking bugs, probably both known, but wanted to point them out |
22:57.11 | Wobin | oh cool |
22:57.35 | Mikma | the empty frames? |
22:57.36 | Wobin | I hate having to pan up to large mobs to see what's happening =P |
22:57.48 | kergoth | the empty frames, and the Key text being outside of its frame entirely |
22:58.03 | Mikma | i thought they are there on purpose :/ |
22:58.03 | kergoth | its in with miscellanious |
22:58.14 | Wobin | ah, the second is... well I won't say intentional, but deliberate |
22:58.30 | kergoth | well, the first time i dragged it over, it wasnt like that |
22:58.35 | kergoth | so one or the other is a bug, pick one |
22:58.37 | kergoth | :P |
22:58.41 | Wobin | in that if the frame is too small to fill in the number of categories, it drops it up a row |
22:59.01 | Wobin | I didn't want to expand the frame to fit the categories |
22:59.20 | Wobin | since they're temporary at best |
22:59.32 | Wobin | ish |
23:00.25 | Wobin | The empty frames are there cause I've not done anything with them yet =) |
23:00.35 | kergoth | hehe, i figured |
23:00.45 | kergoth | how are you planning on showing the category text long term? icons? |
23:00.59 | kergoth | having the text outside the frame looks.. ehm. unprofessional |
23:01.04 | kergoth | or rather, unfinished |
23:01.08 | kergoth | which the addon is, so its appropriate ;) |
23:01.25 | Wobin | I'm not sure tbh |
23:01.37 | Wobin | I was at first, just going to hide them |
23:01.55 | Wobin | You'd know what categories they were cause of where you'd place them on the screen |
23:02.01 | Mikma | Wobin: do i need to reset the settings? |
23:02.08 | kergoth | ah, show them as a sort of 'unlock' state, when you want to drag them between frames? |
23:02.10 | Wobin | Mikma: Probably best |
23:02.13 | kergoth | but not always? |
23:02.16 | Wobin | yeah |
23:02.50 | Wobin | The subcategories automatically remerge after a couple of seconds |
23:02.55 | Wobin | (after splitting) |
23:03.22 | Wobin | But that's mostly cause there usually are a lot of them per major category |
23:03.24 | kergoth | makes sense. still shouldnt have text outside the frame though :) just stretch the very top where the text is, or better yet, attach icons in button like frames to the top of the frame in question, would look better than free floating text, or at least give the text a background/border texture |
23:03.53 | Wobin | I'll possibly go the last or the second to last option |
23:03.57 | kergoth | anyway, just wanted to make sure it was behaving as expected :) |
23:04.04 | Wobin | =) |
23:04.08 | kergoth | looking good, i'm impressed |
23:04.26 | Wobin | ta =) |
23:04.27 | Mikma | hey dudes btw, can i make a local like this: local foo = ActionButton1,ActionButton2,ActionButton3 .. and foo:Hide() ? |
23:04.44 | Wobin | no |
23:04.48 | kergoth | ? |
23:04.52 | Wobin | as only ActionButton1 will be assigned to foo |
23:05.20 | kergoth | Mikma: what exactly are you trying to do with that? |
23:05.23 | Mikma | so is there a way to assing them all to foo and use foo:Hide() |
23:05.26 | Wobin | and you can't run a function on a table of objects, unfortuately |
23:05.33 | Mikma | kergoth: simple hide and show for all buttons |
23:05.43 | kergoth | foo is a variable, it cant contain more than one thing. |
23:05.48 | kergoth | unless you make it a table containing those elements |
23:06.00 | Wobin | Mikma: You'd be better off parenting them to a frame of your making then hiding that frame |
23:06.14 | Mikma | Wobin: hmm that's a good idea |
23:06.16 | kergoth | Wobin: i think he wants to avoid that, due to changes in button behavior based on parenting? |
23:06.30 | Wobin | possibly |
23:06.37 | Mikma | well, this has something to do with the ActionBar swap -function i have |
23:06.41 | Tain | It's always the parent's fault. |
23:06.49 | kergoth | so true |
23:06.56 | Wobin | You'd have to SetPoint them to your frame |
23:07.03 | Mikma | because everytime ie. druid changes shapeshift i need to hide the ActionButton1-12 and show BonusActionButton1-12 |
23:07.05 | Wobin | That's what I did for PlowKing =) |
23:07.47 | Wobin | I needed a named frame to put into the 'hit escape to hide' table, so I put a zero sized one in the bottom corner and setpointed all the bagsections to it |
23:08.16 | kergoth | "You know how it is when you go to be the subject of a psychology experiment, and nobody else shows up, and you think maybe that's part of the experiment? I'm like that all the time." |
23:08.19 | Mikma | huh that can be done? 0 size? |
23:09.40 | kergoth | hahah, "The thing that impresses me the most about America is the way parents obey their children." --King Edward VIII |
23:09.46 | Mikma | this is because i had some problems in the past when i swapped the actionbars by simply moving them off the screen |
23:09.51 | kergoth | theres the quote i was looking for |
23:09.54 | kergoth | Tain: "Psychiatry enables us to correct our faults by confessing our parents' shortcomings." |
23:10.11 | Mikma | later i realized if i move the actionbars to topscreen the swapped buttons will become visible hehe |
23:11.01 | Wobin | Actually, no, what I did was override the Show and Hide functions of the unsized frame to hide or show the bagsections |
23:11.16 | Wobin | More controllable that way |
23:11.55 | Mikma | soon in IF \o/ |
23:13.38 | Tain | haha kergoth that's great |
23:13.45 | Mikma | Wobin: i wonder when plowking is going to be so ready i can use it to replace my bags ;) |
23:13.51 | Slayman | i took the WoWI Favorites Feed and put it on my personalized starting page for google, That fucking rocks! but now I'm going to bed have a nice day/night folks |
23:14.02 | Wobin | Hehe, there's still a lot of futzing to do |
23:14.11 | Wobin | tooltip scanning for one |
23:14.40 | Mikma | oh, once i had an interesting issue with plowking, but i think it's fixed now: |
23:15.02 | Wobin | Although I still have to figure out why it doesn't scan the bags properly on login |
23:15.08 | Mikma | when it wasn't switchable yet i had to use esc to close it. when i sold some stuff from my inv i got a new empty slot on screen which wouldn't go away :D |
23:16.12 | Wobin | You should see the debug messages fly when I use my hunter =( |
23:16.21 | Wobin | Updating Slot |
23:16.23 | Wobin | Updating Slot |
23:16.51 | Mikma | hehe, damn arrows/bullets |
23:17.21 | Mikma | omg i just got a terrific addon idea! |
23:17.27 | Mikma | anyone has used AutoBar? |
23:17.45 | Wobin | rofl |
23:17.46 | Wobin | From the article: "People drinking one cup of coffee per day were, on average, 20% less likely to develop alcoholic cirrhosis. For people drinking two or three cups the reduction was 40%, and for those drinking four or more cups of coffee a day the reduction in risk was 80%." |
23:18.02 | Wobin | (yes... the reason being they had no room in their bladders for alcohol =P) |
23:18.04 | Mikma | AutoBar, but with Quest Items! QuestBar! |
23:18.32 | Wobin | what's autobar do? |
23:19.13 | Mikma | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=274 |
23:19.49 | CIA-12 | 03thiana * r2741 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Bumped rev to 1.0 for WoWI release |
23:22.16 | CIA-12 | 03maia * r2742 10Squishy/ (6 files): |
23:22.16 | CIA-12 | Squishy: |
23:22.17 | CIA-12 | - converted frame xml to lua |
23:22.17 | CIA-12 | - merged SquishyFrame and screen alert messages |
23:22.17 | CIA-12 | - indicator for party, player, higest priority next to unit bars |
23:22.24 | CIA-12 | 03thiana * r2743 10/tags/FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (20 files in 9 dirs): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Tag for 1.00 |
23:23.58 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2744 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - Fixed a typo |
23:25.57 | Wobin | Mikma: How would you use that for quest items? |
23:26.11 | Mikma | it would show usable questitems on screen |
23:26.17 | Wobin | It' seems like pothead to me, ie pick the best yada for the category |
23:26.29 | Wobin | ugh =\ |
23:26.37 | Wobin | I don't think that's possible =\ |
23:26.38 | Mikma | i'm not talking about modding that one of course |
23:27.39 | Wobin | I mean I dno't know if you can detect if a quest item is usable or not |
23:29.26 | Slayman | ONe last thing Wobin: MrPlow: should check if the user is riding an Item Mount, cuz moving that mount is dismounting, at least it dismounts me, maybe omit the the mount Item if the char is mounted ... |
23:30.05 | kergoth | Mikma: thats a damn good idea. i dont have any actionbuttons on my screen by default other than autobar and class specific bars like conjurebar, and ghostbar is for my combat abilities, and selectionring for profs... no real place to drag a quest item for temporary use |
23:30.42 | Mikma | well your too damn minimalistic i think hehe ;) |
23:30.57 | kergoth | not minimalistic at all, i think i'm using 160 addons right now |
23:31.00 | Mikma | autobar CAN hold items in it too |
23:31.04 | kergoth | i just like things out of the way until i need them :) |
23:31.06 | Wobin | Slayman: That's what the item ignore is for |
23:31.13 | Mikma | but you'll have to punch in the itemid/name |
23:31.29 | kergoth | someone needs to do something like autobar that just uses PT sets |
23:32.08 | Wobin | Tek has it basically set up to work |
23:32.12 | Mikma | well, items can be scanned to see if they are used in a quest or not |
23:32.21 | Mikma | ie. monkeyquest does this and updates the tooltip |
23:32.30 | kergoth | fubar_questsfu does it too |
23:32.51 | Wobin | but are you talking about quest items that you collect or quest items you have to use at a certain location? |
23:33.04 | Mikma | well there is a way then to know atleast what items are used in quest |
23:33.04 | Cairenn | ckknight: you there? |
23:33.12 | Mikma | now the only thing we would need is a way to display the items on screen |
23:33.34 | kergoth | Wobin: hmm, wonder how you could catch the latter. just watch for items received when talking to a quest giver and accepting the quest? |
23:33.50 | Wobin | kergoth: scary |
23:34.11 | Wobin | which doesn't preclude items you have to wear |
23:34.17 | kergoth | http://paste.dprogramming.com/dpg152i0.php is sick and scary and awesome. setting up interrupt vectors using recursion in templates |
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23:47.48 | Mikma | wtb working tooltip with ToT support |
23:50.31 | Mikma | this tooltip i use would be great if it would show the questkills in it :P |
23:52.10 | CIA-12 | 03wobin * r2745 10MrPlow/ (. MrPlow.lua MrPlow.toc MrPlowFu.lua): MrPlow - Added the required libraries to work without FuBar |
23:56.31 | Wobin | Cairenn: Could you remove the FuBar-MrPlowFu page at ( http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5052-FuBar_-_MrPlowFu.html ) ? |
23:56.53 | Cairenn | gone |
23:57.06 | Wobin | Thank you =) |
23:57.52 | Cairenn | welcome |
23:59.34 | Mikma | can someone tell me why these 3 lines are preventing QuestsFu and MonkeyQuest to display the Quest Info in tooltip? http://pastebin.com/707635 |