irclog2html for #wowace on 20060610

`00:06.52`	`*** join/#wowace Parak (i=PROFI@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com)`
`00:19.12`	`cladhaire`	`Evening all.`
`00:20.30`	`*** join/#wowace Galka (n=Galka@pool-72-88-141-39.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)`
`00:20.49`	`ckknight`	`hey Galka`
`00:20.56`	`Galka`	`hello`
`00:22.11`	`Tekkub`	`erf.... bastard CTRA`
`00:22.24`	`Tekkub`	`the core file is a fucking novel`
`00:22.25`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`00:22.33`	`ckknight`	`ah, yes`
`00:22.49`	`Tekkub`	`just hacking into CTRA to see how to hook it's message recieve stuff`
`00:23.07`	`Tekkub`	`almost thinking it'd be simpler to just do ye ol nomral event registering`
`00:23.24`	`ckknight`	`could be`
`00:24.45`	`*** join/#wowace Codayus (i=cody@l0gical.net)`
`00:28.20`	`CIA-17`	`03uruloke * r2567 10ArcHUD/ (25 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)`
`00:28.20`	`CIA-17`	`ArcHUD`
`00:28.21`	`CIA-17`	`- Reworked the base for rings, making them completely standalone`
`00:28.21`	`CIA-17`	`- Added support for clickcasting addons by means of ArcHUD_CustomClick. Control is handed back to ArcHUD if the function returns false (ie, ArcHUD_CustomClick didn't do anything).`
`00:28.21`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed pet mana ring showing for warriors`
`00:28.21`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed party pet's nameplates not being clickable`
`00:28.25`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed party rings not hiding along with the rest of the UI on ALT+Z`
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`00:30.11`	`CIA-17`	`03uruloke * r2568 10ArcHUD/ (ArcHUDRing.xml ArcHUDRingHelper.lua):`
`00:30.11`	`CIA-17`	`ArcHUD`
`00:30.11`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed old files`
`00:31.08`	`CIA-17`	`03uruloke * r2569 10ArcHUD/Rings/ (10 files):`
`00:31.08`	`CIA-17`	`ArcHUD`
`00:31.08`	`CIA-17`	`- Removed old files`
`00:31.42`	`Mikma`	`http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/just_plain_stupid/Airbus_built_in_340_seconds/`
`00:41.35`	`Tekkub`	`haste you on?`
`00:42.31`	`haste`	`yes`
`00:42.35`	`haste`	`I'm slightly afk tho`
`00:42.48`	`haste`	`since my backup hds partition table has died`
`00:43.09`	`Tekkub`	`if I send something thru oRA to chat, like say "SOME TEXT" what does it come thru on the channel as, raw?`
`00:43.19`	`Tekkub`	`[Tekkub] SOME TEXT ?`
`00:43.36`	`Tekkub`	`or is there some funky command design?`
`00:43.48`	`haste`	`oRA replaces S and s with some ASCII letters`
`00:44.03`	`haste`	`so it's the same, only those replaced`
`00:44.18`	`Tekkub`	`yea that's what the clean function undoes, right?`
`00:44.23`	`Tekkub`	`to avoid drunkenness`
`00:44.40`	`haste`	`yeh`
`00:44.49`	`haste`	`it also checks for the "hic..."`
`00:44.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`lol`
`00:44.54`	`Tekkub`	`yea I saw`
`00:45.20`	`haste`	`I'm so hoping I have enough free space now`
`00:45.27`	`*** join/#wowace Galka_ (n=Galka@pool-72-88-129-235.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)`
`00:45.33`	`Tekkub`	`so If I'm sendng "BIGWIGSSYNC COMMANDTHINGYHERE" I don't have to expect anything different out of the channel, on the sobriety filter is undone?`
`00:46.10`	`haste`	`I didn't understand that sentence :(`
`00:46.24`	`Tekkub`	`okey lets put it this way.....`
`00:47.08`	`Tekkub`	`I put in "random text" ... it goes thru the drunk filter, sends across the channel, if I pull right out of the channel, unfilter I'll get "randow text"`
`00:47.13`	`Tekkub`	`*m`
`00:47.28`	`haste`	`yes`
`00:47.45`	`Tekkub`	`it's not gonna be some extra crap like "CTRA666:: randomtext"`
`00:48.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`lol`
`00:48.14`	`haste`	`nope :p`
`00:48.24`	`haste`	`You get it back as you send it`
`00:48.25`	`Tekkub`	`okeydoodle`
`00:48.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`CTRA666`
`00:48.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`how apropos`
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`01:00.57`	`Tekkub`	`WTB free gold from Kerg PST`
`01:02.27`	`Industrial`	`3am nn`
`01:26.43`	`haste`	`I'm going to bed now`
`01:26.57`	`haste`	`I'm also praying that my HD is rebuilt when I get up tomorrow`
`01:27.10`	`haste`	`since I never got to commit oUF2 before this happened :<`
`01:27.24`	`haste`	`gn`
`01:28.49`	`Thiana`	`Night`
`01:31.56`	`Thiana`	`Cairen?`
`02:01.26`	`*** join/#wowace Jarenthal (n=Roo@cpe-066-057-087-213.nc.res.rr.com)`
`02:02.58`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2571 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - deactivate is no longer implicitly called, it is fed into activate to be called there.`
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`02:03.28`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2572 10AceLibrary/ (3 files): AceLibrary/TestSuite - updated for new API`
`02:05.09`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2573 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - internally changed create/destroy to activate/deactivate`
`02:07.41`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2574 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - error message on obselete (with DEBUG flag set)`
`02:20.55`	`Mikma`	`http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/just_plain_stupid/Russian_on_the_Beach/`
`02:20.58`	`Mikma`	`there you go`
`02:22.53`	`Gngsk`	`remind me to never click on any links you paste ever again!`
`02:24.21`	`Mikma`	`muaha`
`02:28.18`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2575 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - fixed bug, made slight optimization`
`02:31.31`	`ckknight`	`fat chix!`
`02:40.28`	`Tain`	`I like the show Numb3rs.`
`02:41.32`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2576 10AceLibrary/ (22 files):`
`02:41.32`	`CIA-17`	`AceLibrary/TestSuite - renamed unit tests to format <module>-<short description>-<number>.lua`
`02:41.32`	`CIA-17`	`e.g. AceLibrary-access-1.lua`
`02:41.32`	`ckknight`	`me too.`
`02:44.37`	`Mikma`	`http://www.stupidvideos.com/video/just_plain_stupid/Darth_Vader_Prank_2/`
`02:44.45`	`Mikma`	`i'll go and test that now`
`02:44.50`	`Mikma`	`gn`
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`02:51.05`	`Tekcub`	`huzzah, netfart`
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`02:57.20`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ`
`03:04.14`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r2577 10BigWigs/ (8 files in 2 dirs):`
`03:04.14`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs`
`03:04.14`	`CIA-17`	`- Tweaked how anchors work, sorry handdol but I didn't like how you did it. Slash command is now /bigwigs anchor`
`03:04.14`	`CIA-17`	`- Added a little local to the Messages.lua file, if you set it to true messages will go to the default error frame (where "Action in progress" text goes)`
`03:04.14`	`CIA-17`	`- Moved test stuff into it's own module`
`03:04.16`	`CIA-17`	`- Moved the delay logic into it's own module, just to make it easier to upkeep.`
`03:07.44`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2578 10AceLibrary/AceLibraryClass.lua: AceLibraryClass - initial commit`
`03:12.45`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2579 10AceLibrary/AceLibraryClass-creation-1.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceLibraryClass-creation-1`
`03:16.23`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2580 10AceLibrary/ (AceLibraryClass-assert-1.lua AceLibraryClass-creation-1.lua): AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceLibraryClass-assert-1.lua`
`03:20.53`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2581 10AceLibrary/AceLibraryClass.lua: AceLibraryClass - changed format to string.format and assert to self:assert`
`03:21.17`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2582 10AceLibrary/AceLibraryClass-argCheck-1.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceLibraryClass-argCheck-1.lua`
`03:26.58`	`ckknight`	`okay, to all you lib writers out there, what functions would be useful to have for your libs that's standardized and whatnot?`
`03:29.36`	`Tekcub`	`lib:WriteSelf`
`03:29.44`	`Tekcub`	`lib:ReadMyMind`
`03:30.04`	`Tekcub`	`lib:MakeMeAPieBitch`
`03:30.05`	`Kaelten`	`heh`
`03:30.08`	`Kaelten`	`afk a few guys`
`03:31.13`	`ckknight`	`MakeMeAPieBitch might be able to work itself in`
`03:35.15`	`ckknight`	`just so you know, I'm gonna end up making AceLocale very much like BabbleLib, I think`
`03:35.19`	`ckknight`	`local L = AceLocale:new("MyAddon")`
`03:35.46`	`ckknight`	`actually it'll be`
`03:36.01`	`ckknight`	`local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.0"):new("MyAddon")`
`03:36.47`	`ckknight`	`L"Zomg" == "Zömg"`
`03:37.22`	`ckknight`	`that seem reasonable?`
`03:37.40`	`ckknight`	`it'd have pretty similar checks to what BabbleLib does now`
`03:38.55`	`*** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=Tekk@ip70-178-135-244.ks.ks.cox.net)`
`03:39.46`	`ckknight`	`hey Tekkub`
`03:40.19`	`Tekkub`	`erf`
`03:40.27`	`ckknight`	`what's the last thing I said?`
`03:40.32`	`ckknight`	`got to talking about AceLocale`
`03:40.53`	`Tekkub`	`pie`
`03:41.44`	`ckknight`	`<ckknight> just so you know, I'm gonna end up making AceLocale very much like BabbleLib, I think`
`03:41.44`	`ckknight`	`<ckknight> local L = AceLocale:new("MyAddon")`
`03:41.44`	`ckknight`	`<ckknight> actually it'll be`
`03:41.44`	`ckknight`	`<ckknight> local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.0"):new("MyAddon")`
`03:41.44`	`ckknight`	`<ckknight> L"Zomg" == "Zömg"`
`03:41.45`	`ckknight`	`<ckknight> that seem reasonable?`
`03:41.47`	`ckknight`	`<ckknight> it'd have pretty similar checks to what BabbleLib does now`
`03:43.03`	`ckknight`	`dinner, gtg`
`03:44.10`	`Tekkub`	`fine by me, I like how Babble works`
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`03:48.53`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r2583 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs - Forgot to tweak a few things with frame scaling`
`03:49.19`	`Tekkub`	`please test new improved (removed handdol's shit, mostly) anchors guys`
`04:00.40`	`ckknight`	`back`
`04:01.05`	`ckknight`	`yea, so that means that AceLocale won't be a mixin`
`04:01.12`	`ckknight`	`it'll just be a library`
`04:05.34`	`kloppe`	`Tekkub: anchors seem to be working fine`
`04:05.40`	`kloppe`	`better than the previous`
`04:06.09`	`kloppe`	`however, self:Msg(ORA_BIGWIGS_CONST.Chat.Whisper, line 49 of oRA_BigWigs.lua, should be oRA_BIGWIGS ;)`
`04:10.38`	`*** join/#wowace Kyahx (n=Kyahx@72.2.212.239)`
`04:10.58`	`Kyahx`	`Tekkub!`
`04:11.19`	`Kyahx`	`Does the FreeRefills not-quite-good-enough-to-be-called-beta work for you?`
`04:14.27`	`Wobin`	`"Interface\AddOns\GonffBar\GonffBar.lua:529: attempt to index global`
`04:14.28`	`Wobin`	`"ACEG_MAP_ONOFF' (a nil value)'`
`04:14.37`	`Wobin`	`Has anyone ever come across htat error?`
`04:16.09`	`CIA-17`	`03kyahx * r2584 10FreeRefills/ (Core.lua Locals.lua): FreeRefills: Now has the ability to handle stacked items! Also added "/freerefills addstack [item] #"`
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`04:27.50`	`Wobin`	`Anyone? =(`
`04:39.38`	`CIA-17`	`03kyahx * r2585 10FreeRefills/Core.lua: FreeRefills: Fixed a bug with the database not being created on a fresh install.`
`04:40.49`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2586 10AceLibrary/AceLocale.lua: AceLocale - initial commit`
`04:41.37`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2587 10AceLibrary/AceLocale-1.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceLocale-1.lua`
`04:41.43`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`04:41.55`	`Kaelten\|afk`	`gnight guys`
`04:42.07`	`ckknight`	`g'night`
`04:42.32`	`ckknight`	`I figure there should be two kinds of localizations`
`04:42.35`	`ckknight`	`harsh and lazy`
`04:42.49`	`ckknight`	`lazy is what all normal addons would use`
`04:43.27`	`ckknight`	`so that errors won't be fired if a translation doesn't exist, it'd fall back to english or whatever you set as your base language`
`04:43.59`	`ckknight`	`harsh would be how BabbleLib works now, throwing an error whenever a translation doesn't exist`
`04:44.25`	`ckknight`	`all AceLocale does is return a function to you`
`04:44.45`	`ckknight`	`so local L = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.0"):GetLocalization("MyAddon")`
`04:44.52`	`ckknight`	`L"Zomg" == "Zomg"`
`04:45.04`	`ckknight`	`but you can also have tiered translations`
`04:45.20`	`ckknight`	`L("Classes", "Good") == "Good"`
`04:45.30`	`ckknight`	`or however you choose to do it`
`04:49.39`	`ckknight`	`it will also only return strings`
`04:49.41`	`ckknight`	`otherwise it errors`
`04:51.18`	`ckknight`	`one thing this doesn't take into account is library upgrades won't change the translation tables or anything`
`04:56.34`	`Wobin`	`what level of library upgrades`
`04:57.05`	`Wobin`	`and aside from the fact that this is a translation thing and translations won't change, isn't that thefunctionality you want from the library?`
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`05:02.08`	`ckknight`	`pretty much`
`05:02.15`	`ckknight`	`basically, if the function itself were to change`
`05:02.41`	`ckknight`	`I could allow for upgrades if I had it return a table with a metatable whose __call was attached to a function`
`05:03.00`	`ckknight`	`but that seems like too much effort for something that shouldn't be a big deal`
`05:05.31`	`CIA-17`	`03kyahx * r2588 10SmartRes/ (. SmartRes.lua SmartRes.toc SmartResLocals.lua):`
`05:05.31`	`CIA-17`	`SmartRes:`
`05:05.31`	`CIA-17`	`-- Added BabbleLib-Spell Embedded to localize the spell names.`
`05:05.31`	`CIA-17`	`-- 'OFF' is now a valid channel type (to disable standard channel output)`
`05:14.26`	`Wobin`	`"The company says its customers are expected to take delivery of their $4,000 hypoallergenic kittens in early 2007."`
`05:14.44`	`Wobin`	`er. Woot?`
`05:18.15`	`ckknight`	`those'd actually be useful`
`05:18.33`	`ckknight`	`really good idea, actually`
`05:18.39`	`ckknight`	`though a bit pricy, in my opinion`
`05:21.12`	`Tekkub`	`WTF?`
`05:22.55`	`Wobin`	`yeah =) I was thinking the price is a fraction high`
`05:23.23`	`Wobin`	`http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot?m=5959`
`05:23.42`	`Wobin`	`hm, y'know what would be a cool purlbot function?`
`05:23.53`	`Wobin`	`You pm purl a long url and he tinyurls it`
`05:24.04`	`Wobin`	`and reports it to the specified channel`
`05:29.44`	`ckknight`	`meh`
`05:29.47`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2589 10AceLibrary/AceLibraryClass.lua: AceLibraryClass - added self:error(["message"])`
`05:32.21`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2590 10AceLibrary/AceLibraryClass.lua: AceLibraryClass - changed self:error(["message"]) to self:error(["message", ...]), which runs a string.format on it a la ace:print`
`05:33.53`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2591 10AceLibrary/AceLibraryClass.lua: AceLibraryClass - changed self:argCheck() to use the string.format of error instead of assert(false`
`05:59.45`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2592 10AceLibrary/ (6 files): AceLibrary/TestSuite - added UnitTest.lua, which has checkError(func, ...) or checkError(object, "method", ...)`
`06:06.39`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2593 10AceLibrary/AceLocale.lua: AceLocale - added harsh argument, which allows for more harsh error checking. i.e. it won't fall back to enUS if harsh is set.`
`06:07.34`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2594 10AceLibrary/ (AceLocale-1.lua AceLocale-2.lua): AceLibrary/TestSuite - updated AceLocale-1.lua, added AceLocale-2.lua`
`06:09.57`	`ckknight`	`what now...`
`06:11.58`	`Tekkub`	`buttsecks`
`06:12.17`	`ckknight`	`...`
`06:21.15`	`Codayus`	`Yay, oneshotted rag. Our 2nd ever kill.`
`06:21.16`	`Codayus`	`So happy.`
`06:21.22`	`Codayus`	`Not that anyone else cares.`
`06:22.36`	`*** join/#wowace quoin (n=mhowell@60-240-215-50.tpgi.com.au)`
`06:25.42`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2595 10AceLibrary/AceLocale.lua: AceLocale - better Debug method.`
`06:26.04`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2596 10AceLibrary/AceLocale-3.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceLocale-3.lua`
`06:26.06`	`ckknight`	`oneshotted?`
`06:34.20`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2597 10AceLibrary/AceLocale.lua: AceLocale - fixed bug in tiered translations`
`06:35.04`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2598 10AceLibrary/ (AceLocale-4.lua AceLocale-5.lua): AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceLocale-4.lua and AceLocale-5.lua`
`06:35.49`	`ckknight`	`http://cia.navi.cx/`
`06:35.52`	`ckknight`	`take a look`
`06:35.54`	`ckknight`	`funny`
`06:35.57`	`ckknight`	`we're on top`
`06:36.10`	`ckknight`	`beating KDE and the rest`
`06:36.50`	`*** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl)`
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`06:37.03`	`ckknight`	`hey MoonWolf`
`06:37.51`	`MoonWolf`	`hey everybody`
`06:38.05`	`ckknight`	`MoonWolf, http://cia.navi.cx/ <- look`
`06:38.29`	`MoonWolf`	`oops`
`06:39.45`	`MoonWolf`	`you have been having fun with your unit tests i see.`
`06:40.48`	`ckknight`	`I also made AceLocale`
`06:41.40`	`ckknight`	`it's kind of a user-defined BabbleLib the way I made it`
`06:41.48`	`MoonWolf`	`is that the new localistion lib ?`
`06:41.48`	`ckknight`	`well, author-defined`
`06:41.54`	`ckknight`	`yea, for Ace2.0`
`06:53.17`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2599 10AceLibrary/AceLocale.lua: AceLocale - fixed :Debug for tiered translations`
`06:53.55`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2600 10AceLibrary/AceLocale-6.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceLocale-6.lua`
`06:54.07`	`ckknight`	`woot! 2600`
`06:58.06`	`kergoth`	`Cars is cute and amusing`
`06:58.14`	`kergoth`	`Tekkub, what are the names of your and wobin's chars?`
`06:58.33`	`Tekkub`	`Huslu and Cham`
`06:58.37`	`kergoth`	`k`
`06:58.47`	`Tekkub`	`WTB free gold`
`06:58.50`	`Tekkub`	`PST`
`06:59.08`	`Tekkub`	`I'ma heading to try to be sleep again`
`06:59.22`	`Tekkub`	`night`
`07:01.47`	`kergoth`	`Lua 5.1.1 has been frozen and is now the official release of Lua 5.1.`
`07:01.47`	`kergoth`	`It's available at`
`07:01.47`	`kergoth`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:04.48`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2601 10AceLibrary/AceLibraryClass.lua: AceLibraryClass - :error now works properly.`
`07:05.17`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, link to changelog?`
`07:06.35`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, got any unit tests for AceOO?`
`07:06.55`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: see http://www.lua.org/bugs.html, all the 5.1 bugs listed there were fixed in 5.1.1, apparently`
`07:07.01`	`kergoth`	`yes, a number of them, i'll see where i put them`
`07:07.06`	`kergoth`	`need to organize my code directory`
`07:09.27`	`ckknight`	`I made AceLocale, it's pretty shiny, imo`
`07:12.05`	`[Ammo]`	`morning`
`07:13.24`	`ckknight`	`hey [Ammo]`
`07:16.25`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r2602 10oRA_BigWigs/oRA_BigWigs.lua:`
`07:16.25`	`CIA-17`	`oRA_BigWigs:`
`07:16.25`	`CIA-17`	`* Fixed typo referring to one of the locals`
`07:21.28`	`Wobin`	`http://static.flickr.com/27/99473839_ec188c7d3d_o.jpg`
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`07:24.11`	`wereHamster`	`cladhaire, so my other name was too offensive ;)`
`07:25.09`	`Wobin`	`?`
`07:25.22`	`Wobin`	`Shag?`
`07:25.42`	`wereHamster`	`yes..`
`07:27.10`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r2603 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua:`
`07:27.10`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs:`
`07:27.10`	`CIA-17`	`* Added Throtteling for the Twins Enrage timer start.`
`07:28.04`	`Wobin`	`Well you're either a seabird or a good hard dicking`
`07:28.12`	`Wobin`	`~hot dicking`
`07:28.40`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`07:29.17`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2604 10HealSync/: Share project 'HealSync' into 'http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/HealSync'`
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`07:36.09`	`Wobin`	`wereHamster, you could probably reregister Shag on freenode`
`07:36.11`	`Wobin`	`as a nicek`
`07:38.57`	`CIA-17`	`03ammo * r2605 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua:`
`07:38.57`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs:`
`07:38.57`	`CIA-17`	`* Cleaned up Enrage Syncing`
`07:38.57`	`CIA-17`	`* Added Teleport Syncing`
`07:39.32`	`kergoth`	`Wobin, sent huslu and cham cash on suramar`
`07:39.42`	`Wobin`	`omg =)`
`07:39.45`	`Wobin`	`Thank you =)`
`07:40.00`	`kergoth`	`20g a piece for now, should relieve most of the headaches`
`07:40.06`	`Wobin`	`heheh totally`
`07:40.14`	`kergoth`	`get you some damn bags and all`
`07:40.20`	`kergoth`	`hate being a lowbie with no cash`
`07:40.29`	`[Ammo]`	`oh yeah`
`07:40.42`	`Wobin`	`argh, Mazzranche with no bags == teh pain`
`07:40.43`	`[Ammo]`	`down to 25g due to wiperepairs`
`07:40.54`	`wereHamster`	`all my projects disappeared in eclipse when I imported my addon into svn :(`
`07:41.30`	`Wobin`	`erg`
`07:41.35`	`Wobin`	`That's... odd`
`07:41.52`	`Wobin`	`Surely eclipse can handle existing projects?`
`07:42.36`	`Wobin`	`http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://play-wow.blogspot.com/2005/11/one-shots-4.html`
`07:42.40`	`Wobin`	`er`
`07:42.47`	`Wobin`	`kill the first big =P`
`07:42.49`	`Wobin`	`bit`
`07:42.54`	`Wobin`	`http://play-wow.blogspot.com/2005/11/one-shots-4.html`
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`07:44.10`	`Wobin`	`rofl`
`07:44.14`	`Wobin`	`all of them are funny =P`
`07:44.30`	`Wobin`	`http://play-wow.blogspot.com/2005/10/vol-4-shepherds-episode-2.html`
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`07:55.43`	`ckknight`	`hooray.`
`07:55.56`	`ckknight`	`breakfast _is_ the most important meal of the day`
`07:56.07`	`CIA-17`	`03facboy * r2606 10Timex/ (Core/TimexCore.lua Support/TimexChronosSupport.lua): Timex: R23.1-beta4 - fixed a bug with entering -ve times (honestly :P)`
`07:56.29`	`ckknight`	`who is facboy?`
`07:56.30`	`MoonWolf`	`thats what they keep telling me`
`07:56.44`	`MoonWolf`	`facboy is the person rowne appointed to keep timex goign.`
`07:56.47`	`MoonWolf`	`going*`
`07:56.48`	`[Ammo]`	`he's the guy doing timex nowadays`
`07:56.57`	`ckknight`	`granted, I eat about 6 meals a day`
`07:57.03`	`ckknight`	`so who's to say`
`07:57.19`	`MoonWolf`	`but one of those meals is breakfast`
`07:57.24`	`MoonWolf`	`and that is the most important one.`
`07:57.30`	`MoonWolf`	`according to those healthy people anyway.`
`07:59.19`	`ckknight`	`actually since they're all equally spaced, they're pretty much all important`
`08:00.02`	`MoonWolf`	`hehe`
`08:00.10`	`MoonWolf`	`you eat in the middle of the night ?`
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`08:00.37`	`MoonWolf`	`on that note`
`08:00.43`	`MoonWolf`	`when is the last time you slep man ?`
`08:01.09`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`08:01.19`	`MoonWolf`	`you were busy when i loged of, your still here, you were going when i was working yesterday`
`08:01.21`	`ckknight`	`I sleep`
`08:01.35`	`MoonWolf`	`power naps or something ?`
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`08:05.14`	`ckknight_`	`gah`
`08:05.18`	`ckknight_`	`what's the last thing I said?`
`08:06.58`	`MoonWolf`	`<ckknight> I slee`
`08:07.01`	`MoonWolf`	`<ckknight> I sleep*`
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`08:09.35`	`ckknight_`	`damn wireless`
`08:10.02`	`MoonWolf`	`power naps ?`
`08:10.37`	`ckknight`	`I actually did used to have a polyphasic sleep cycle`
`08:10.39`	`ckknight`	`good times`
`08:10.52`	`MoonWolf`	`id hate that`
`08:10.55`	`ckknight`	`not anymore, cause I'm at my parents for now`
`08:10.55`	`MoonWolf`	`i like sleeping`
`08:10.58`	`MoonWolf`	`i yust dont sleep a lot`
`08:11.00`	`ckknight`	`no, it was amazing`
`08:11.02`	`MoonWolf`	`5 or 6 hours.`
`08:11.08`	`ckknight`	`so productive`
`08:11.14`	`ckknight`	`and constant dreams`
`08:11.20`	`ckknight`	`while controlling the dreams fuly`
`08:11.22`	`ckknight`	`fully*`
`08:11.39`	`ckknight`	`and feeling the hot breath of a tiger and rubbing my hands through its fur in a very lucid way`
`08:11.42`	`ckknight`	`pretty fun stuff`
`08:12.56`	`CIA-17`	`03facboy * r2607 10Timex/Support/TimexChronosSupport.lua: TimexTimex: R23.1-beta4 - oops, missed something.`
`08:13.44`	`MoonWolf`	`if you say so`
`08:13.53`	`MoonWolf`	`ill take my regular sleep cycle`
`08:14.08`	`MoonWolf`	`ofcourse, you dont school/work to worry about.`
`08:16.49`	`ckknight`	`when I did it, I was in school`
`08:16.54`	`CIA-17`	`03maia * r2608 10SmartRes/credits.txt: SmartRes: added credits.txt`
`08:16.56`	`ckknight`	`did it with my roommate`
`08:17.01`	`MoonWolf`	`eeeuh`
`08:17.07`	`MoonWolf`	`how does that work out with classes ?`
`08:17.53`	`ckknight`	`our breaks worked out well`
`08:18.06`	`ckknight`	`it was a 26 minute nap every 4 hours`
`08:18.11`	`ckknight`	`we squeezed it in`
`08:20.23`	`kergoth`	`lucid dreaming is quite nifty, i read a great deal on the subject. never did get focused enough on it to get past the actually improving my dream recall. doesnt do much good to have them lucid if i dont remember them anyway. heh`
`08:23.15`	`wereHamster`	`Tekkub, why do you put the embedded libs to a subdirectory 'Lib' ?`
`08:23.53`	`ckknight`	`it's for externals`
`08:23.56`	`ckknight`	`I do it too`
`08:24.13`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, hrm`
`08:24.22`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, it's easy with meditation`
`08:25.07`	`wereHamster`	`wouldn't it be better to put it to a subdirectory named like the addon? so that potential user just could copy it to their addon folder and use? Or do you put all embedded libs into 'Lib' ?`
`08:26.33`	`ckknight`	`doesn't work that way`
`08:26.45`	`ckknight`	`it's for svn:externals, not cold copying`
`08:34.05`	`wereHamster`	`ah.. now I see..`
`08:37.05`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
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`08:49.55`	`ckknight`	`hey Kyahx`
`08:50.02`	`Kyahx`	`Hey hey`
`08:51.10`	`ckknight`	`what's up?`
`08:52.36`	`Kyahx`	`the webmaster of my guild's website game me my own UI forum`
`08:52.41`	`Kyahx`	`so im creating a ton of links =P`
`08:53.40`	`ckknight`	`http://www.punksandnerds.com/d/0149.html`
`08:53.49`	`haste`	`note to self: don't rec-compile the kernel when tired.`
`08:54.05`	`wereHamster`	`dri still not working?`
`08:54.12`	`Kyahx`	`heh`
`08:54.16`	`haste`	`I fixed it yesterday actually ;D`
`08:54.25`	`haste`	`but I managed to remove my sata support`
`08:55.42`	`ckknight`	`lol`
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`08:59.17`	`wereHamster`	`does pastebin have problems?`
`08:59.32`	`wereHamster`	`Query failure: Table 'pastebin.pastebin' doesn't exist`
`08:59.48`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`08:59.51`	`ckknight`	`not getting it here`
`09:00.07`	`ckknight`	`nvm`
`09:00.09`	`ckknight`	`there it is`
`09:01.53`	`wereHamster`	`my embed. lib stub: http://pastebin.ca/63583 ?`
`09:13.32`	`ckknight`	`err`
`09:14.24`	`ckknight`	`um`
`09:14.34`	`ckknight`	`it's a bit flawed`
`09:14.39`	`ckknight`	`though good start`
`09:14.54`	`wereHamster`	`why?`
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`09:17.19`	`ckknight_`	`gah`
`09:17.34`	`ckknight_`	`well, actually it's not officially flawed, because it has no methods`
`09:17.55`	`ckknight_`	`therefore, it theoretically works fine at not doing anything`
`09:18.25`	`wereHamster`	`it's just the stub..`
`09:19.11`	`ckknight_`	`yea`
`09:19.25`	`ckknight_`	`I dunno, don't ask me`
`09:19.52`	`ckknight_`	`I'd have to see it with some methods injected in`
`09:21.20`	`ckknight_`	`been working on AceLibrary for the past two days straight, pretty much`
`09:23.46`	`ckknight_`	`http://www.punksandnerds.com/d/20051211.html`
`09:23.48`	`ckknight_`	`hehe`
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`09:39.50`	`wereHamster`	`how do I use svn:keywords: Rev ?`
`09:41.57`	`ckknight_`	`with magic!`
`09:42.16`	`ckknight_`	`see any of my libraries for reference`
`09:43.32`	`wereHamster`	`DewdropLib kas svn:keywords 'Rev', but in the svn manual I only see 'Revision' ..`
`09:43.53`	`Wobin`	`wH: Are you using any particular program for SVN?`
`09:43.59`	`Wobin`	`access`
`09:44.00`	`Wobin`	`?`
`09:44.40`	`wereHamster`	`subversive.. a eclipse plugin`
`09:46.02`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`09:46.34`	`Wobin`	`Basically you have to use $Rev$ somewhere in your file then set the svn:keyword for that file to Rev`
`09:46.43`	`Wobin`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:49.19`	`wereHamster`	`will $Revision$ work, too ?`
`09:49.40`	`wereHamster`	`It may also be specified as LastChangedRevision or Rev .. yep ;)`
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`10:00.12`	`Hakker`	`tried eclipse but too damn large for me`
`10:00.39`	`Hakker`	`I only use it for SVN and nothing more`
`10:01.01`	`MoonWolf`	`are you looking for an editor ?`
`10:01.04`	`Hakker`	`so I went to TurtoiseSVN`
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`10:07.29`	`Wobin`	`I <3 TortoiseSVN`
`10:08.28`	`Kyahx__`	`I <3 sleep, night all`
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`10:09.15`	`Hakker`	`turtoise just does what it needs to do, Eclipse is nice if you use the program for more than just SVN :P`
`10:10.13`	`MoonWolf`	`eclipse is nice if you want a huge dev environment.`
`10:10.58`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`10:11.01`	`Wobin`	`I might try it anyway`
`10:13.06`	`Hakker`	`I don't like it for lua though`
`10:15.06`	`Hakker`	`but I prolly code to little anyway :P`
`10:19.02`	`Wobin`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCnioLOANaM`
`10:19.07`	`Wobin`	`An oldie but a goodie`
`10:19.15`	`Hakker`	`too bad no one uses Samurize... can't seem to figure out a small thing with pNews :(`
`10:19.21`	`Wobin`	`Very well done`
`10:23.00`	`Hakker`	`IMBA`
`10:23.04`	`wereHamster`	`what does <3 mean ?`
`10:24.47`	`Hakker`	`04(Wobin04): http://macgyver-tn.ytmnd.com/`
`10:25.07`	`Wobin`	`wereHamster: 'heart' =P`
`10:25.19`	`Wobin`	`as in I <3 New York`
`10:26.13`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2609 10CommChannel/: Share project 'CommChannel' into 'http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/CommChannel'`
`10:26.28`	`wereHamster`	`damn... CIA is everywhere.. always watching me..`
`10:26.38`	`Wobin`	`Hakker: I'd watch that just to hear the MacGuyver music over and over =)`
`10:27.00`	`Wobin`	`Hehe CIA was named for being "A mindless bot that watched for Subversion" =P`
`10:29.02`	`Hakker`	`http://youtube.com/watch?v=yKSUt8yY7Q8&search=dr%20tran still stays IMBA`
`10:29.23`	`Wobin`	`~dr. tran`
`10:29.29`	`purl`	`Cowboy hat!`
`10:29.34`	`Wobin`	`~dr. tran`
`10:29.35`	`purl`	`3, 2, 1... Dr Tran!`
`10:29.45`	`Wobin`	`~dr. tran`
`10:29.46`	`purl`	`Cowboy hat!`
`10:36.18`	`Hakker`	`http://epicninjamaneuver.ytmnd.com/ imba rogue ;)`
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`10:49.25`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2610 10CommChannel/ (4 files in 2 dirs): CommChannel: Initial import`
`10:49.46`	`MoonWolf`	`I need a name for a mod that helps in BG communications`
`10:49.54`	`MoonWolf`	`with default messages for stuff`
`10:50.02`	`MoonWolf`	`anybody got inspiration ?`
`10:50.32`	`Hakker`	`gankcentral`
`10:50.35`	`Wobin`	`Intelligence`
`10:50.52`	`Wobin`	`TacInt`
`10:51.18`	`Hakker`	`GIA Ganking Intelligence Agency`
`10:51.27`	`MoonWolf`	`its not aboug ganking`
`10:51.32`	`MoonWolf`	`BGIA would be good`
`10:51.50`	`MoonWolf`	`BGIA it is.`
`10:52.35`	`Hakker`	`horse=axe meat`
`10:52.43`	`Hakker`	`oops horde = axe meat that is`
`10:52.44`	`MoonWolf`	`hmm`
`10:52.51`	`MoonWolf`	`or chain of command.`
`10:53.19`	`Hakker`	`problem comes probably from my PVPing`
`10:53.43`	`Hakker`	`i'm like a bull I respond to red tooltips ;)`
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`11:13.28`	`wereHamster`	`does anyone know where I can get improvederrorframe with stack backtrace support?`
`11:23.14`	`Wobin`	`ooh`
`11:23.17`	`Wobin`	`I'd like that too`
`11:25.06`	`wereHamster`	`who is 'maia' ?`
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`11:29.25`	`haste`	`the author of smartres and squishy!`
`11:30.22`	`wereHamster`	`does he come to this IRC channel?`
`11:31.52`	`Wobin`	`~last maia`
`11:31.59`	`Wobin`	`~seen maia`
`11:32.02`	`purl`	`maia <n=maia@84.112.137.81> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 14h 40m 35s ago, saying: 'Mikma: you just reminded me of my time as teenager.'.`
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`11:39.30`	`cladhaire`	`you can just add stack backtraces to IEF or bugsack on your own`
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`11:48.48`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2611 10HealSync/ (HealSync.toc Lib/ Lib/HealSync.lua): HealSync: Initial import`
`11:57.05`	`MoonWolf`	`~emulate zim`
`11:57.12`	`purl`	`THE DIB! HE'S MISSING! THEY'VE TAKEN HIM AND DRAINED HIM OF HIS _sweet sweet blood candies_`
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`12:06.49`	`Mikma`	`http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2712`
`12:07.27`	`MoonWolf`	`thats good`
`12:11.38`	`wereHamster`	`hey maia..`
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`12:24.02`	`CIA-17`	`03uruloke * r2612 10ArcHUD/ (11 files in 2 dirs):`
`12:24.02`	`CIA-17`	`ArcHUD`
`12:24.02`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed ring settings not being saved`
`12:24.02`	`CIA-17`	`- Fixed percentages being slightly off`
`12:27.08`	`maiaAFK`	`wereHamster: heya. I'm semi-afk, working on something, but tabbing in every hour or so :)`
`12:29.19`	`wereHamster`	`~wereHamster`
`12:29.27`	`purl`	`well, werehamster is not scary, but Shaggy`
`12:29.27`	`wereHamster`	`~emulate wereHamster`
`12:29.39`	`wereHamster`	`maiaAFK, there you go.. I'm Shag ;)`
`12:30.13`	`maiaAFK`	`I know ;)`
`12:31.02`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`uhm anyone got the link to the SVN my bookmark appears to be broken`
`12:31.21`	`maiaAFK`	`svn.wowace.com/root`
`12:33.54`	`wereHamster`	`maiaAFK, where did you find out?`
`12:36.17`	`maiaAFK`	`huh?`
`12:36.39`	`wereHamster`	`not many know that I'm aka Shag..`
`12:37.02`	`maiaAFK`	`it was obvious, who else should have commited your addon to the svn`
`12:37.17`	`wereHamster`	`-.-`
`12:38.05`	`haste`	`:d`
`12:44.13`	`maia`	`wereHamster: as you're converting HealSync to a library, does that mean you're splitting frontend and spell communication code?`
`12:44.46`	`wereHamster`	`maia, yes`
`12:44.49`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2613 10CommChannel/ (Lib/CommChannel.lua README): CommChannel: add 'Revision' to svn:keywords and a README file`
`12:46.42`	`wereHamster`	`HealSync, right now, is just a library that allows addons to register themselves and receive HealSync messages sent to the comm-channel..`
`12:47.47`	`maia`	`I see. we need an API documentation.`
`12:48.13`	`maia`	`I'd then convert Squishy to use HealSync library before releasing it at wowi`
`12:51.19`	`wereHamster`	`local iface = HealSync("1.0"):Create("Squishy"); function iface:Start(caster, target, spell, start, duration) ... end <= that should do it ;)`
`12:51.30`	`wereHamster`	`I'm working on a documentation for HealSync right now..`
`12:52.13`	`maia`	`great.`
`12:52.41`	`maia`	`oh, and I'd not only need to know how to send outgoing spells, but how to parse incoming spells.`
`12:52.59`	`maia`	`and I'd strongly suggest to create a oRa module with healsync.`
`12:54.11`	`wereHamster`	`CommChannel("1.0"):Call("sync", "HealSync", "Start", target, spell, duration, lag)`
`12:55.12`	`wereHamster`	`.. this is for outgoing spells..`
`12:55.12`	`maia`	`huh?`
`12:55.15`	`maia`	`oh`
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`12:57.14`	`Industrial`	`haste: why did we get kicked?`
`12:57.19`	`Industrial`	`errr.. servers offline..`
`12:58.05`	`haste`	`how should I know :< ?`
`13:03.00`	`maia`	`wereHamster: oh, please create a thread in the library forum so we don't need to keep hijacking the Squishy thread`
`13:03.21`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2614 10HealSync/README: HealSync: Add a README file`
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`13:12.42`	`Wobin`	`..rface\AddOns\BigWigs\MetrognomeLib\MetrognomeLib.lua:255: in function <...rface\AddOns\BigWigs\MetrognomeLib\MetrognomeLib.lua:249>`
`13:12.56`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`13:13.00`	`Wobin`	`didn't paste what I expected`
`13:14.24`	`Wobin`	`bah`
`13:14.34`	`Wobin`	`I can't seem to c/p my ora error`
`13:14.47`	`Wobin`	`core.lua:334`
`13:14.59`	`Wobin`	`attempt to index field '?'`
`13:15.13`	`maia`	`wereHamster: iface:Start(caster, target, spell, start, duration) - is spell the (localized) spell name? is the duration in ms? is start GetTime()? does one need to send current latency?`
`13:17.26`	`wereHamster`	`wereHamster, spell is whatever the other side sends.. I'm using my 'i18nCore' addon to translate spell names to non-localized versions ("Paryer of Healing" => "PrayerOfHealing" etc.) and maybe it would be a good idea to use numbers to reduce traffic..`
`13:17.53`	`wereHamster`	`duration is whatever argX hold when you receive SPELLCAST_START ;)`
`13:19.23`	`maia`	`well, shouldnt all addons using this library send the same information? aka shouldnt HealSyncLib convert the spell to either a non-localized version, a spellID or anything else?`
`13:19.43`	`maia`	`oh, and BabbleLib, which is used by a ton of Ace addons, provides spell localization.`
`13:19.54`	`wereHamster`	`start is GetTime() .. and when sending the message to the channel, the last argument is your local lag...`
`13:21.55`	`Wobin`	`I wish we had a Blizzard SpellID like we do itemIDs`
`13:23.53`	`Tekkub`	`erf`
`13:24.50`	`Tekkub`	`isn't GetTime specific to the computer you're running on?`
`13:25.02`	`wereHamster`	`local start = GetTime() - ( remoteLag + localLag ) / 1000 * 1.3`
`13:25.15`	`wereHamster`	`this is how 'start' is computed..`
`13:25.30`	`wereHamster`	`when I receive the message`
`13:26.50`	`wereHamster`	`I think it would be better to use the non-localized spell name as long as possible and convert it just before displaying.. I'm using a spell-name-to-spell-duration map table in my code and it's better to have just one version instead of having to localize it for every single addon..`
`13:26.51`	`Tekkub`	`so you're not sending GetTime, only the local lag?`
`13:26.55`	`wereHamster`	`yes`
`13:26.58`	`Tekkub`	`ahso`
`13:27.00`	`Tekkub`	`:)`
`13:27.19`	`maia`	`so it's rather: iface:Start(caster, target, spell, latency, duration)`
`13:27.24`	`Tekkub`	`as for localizing, yea use Babble`
`13:27.28`	`wereHamster`	`HealSync has worked very well for my guild so far,, the code should be quite stable..`
`13:27.40`	`Tekkub`	`it'll let you work with both the engrish name and the local localization`
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`13:32.57`	`maia`	`so, tekkub, you just added a comm module, and wereHamster is doing the same? :)`
`13:33.20`	`Tekkub`	`yea, but it only works on CTRA channel :)`
`13:33.26`	`Tekkub`	`it's simple tho`
`13:33.29`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ`
`13:33.39`	`Tekkub`	`I might change it into an embed so anyone can use it`
`13:33.45`	`wereHamster`	`what's the name?`
`13:33.52`	`Tekkub`	`it's in BigWigs`
`13:33.53`	`Kaelten`	`ello`
`13:33.59`	`MoonWolf`	`sup`
`13:34.32`	`Kaelten`	`not much, how about you moon?`
`13:34.39`	`MoonWolf`	`nothing special`
`13:34.48`	`Kaelten`	`Tekkub, please make a feature request on my portal about that event`
`13:35.04`	`Tekkub`	`okeydoodle`
`13:35.20`	`Kaelten`	`that way I'll hopefully remember it :)`
`13:35.33`	`MoonWolf`	`event ?`
`13:35.46`	`Kaelten`	`he asked for an event in KC_Auction after prices have updated`
`13:35.52`	`MoonWolf`	`ah`
`13:35.54`	`MoonWolf`	`cool idea`
`13:36.32`	`wereHamster`	`morning`
`13:36.38`	`Kaelten`	`ya it is, there are probably other places where I could put things like that in.`
`13:36.43`	`Kaelten`	`heya Cairenn`
`13:36.51`	`MoonWolf`	`hi Cairenn`
`13:37.00`	`Cairenn`	`morning guys`
`13:37.11`	`Tekkub`	`Ci Hairenn`
`13:38.14`	`Kaelten`	`Anyone running the Vista 2.0 beta?`
`13:38.31`	`Kaelten`	`or beta 2 rather`
`13:39.29`	`MoonWolf`	`nope, but i am hearing good stuff.`
`13:39.30`	`MoonWolf`	`and bad stuff`
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`13:39.48`	`MoonWolf`	`you cant have windows and not hear negative things about it.`
`13:40.17`	`Kaelten`	`ya I've ordered the dvd kit and now I finally got through to download it`
`13:40.36`	`Kaelten`	`It's odd that the 64bit version is almost a gig larger`
`13:40.44`	`MoonWolf`	`eeuh`
`13:40.45`	`MoonWolf`	`yeah`
`13:40.48`	`MoonWolf`	`thats new to me.`
`13:41.00`	`Kaelten`	`ya I'm running an AMD 64`
`13:41.07`	`Kaelten`	`not sure which one I should really run`
`13:41.15`	`Kaelten`	`so I'm just dl the 32 bit one`
`13:41.16`	`MoonWolf`	`i did hear that 64 bit is working as good as regular.`
`13:41.27`	`Kaelten`	`thats cool`
`13:41.43`	`Kaelten`	`but is it for the intel 64 bit one or the amd 64s?`
`13:41.54`	`MoonWolf`	`nothing specific.`
`13:42.13`	`MoonWolf`	`i assume that if any platform has worse suport it would be intel`
`13:42.21`	`MoonWolf`	`since amd was first on the 64 bit market.`
`13:43.12`	`Kaelten`	`that and AMD's was backwards compatabile and the intel was a new branch`
`13:45.27`	`MoonWolf`	`CoCLocals.WSGAloc["Horde"]["Tunnel"] = "stuff" <- should there be a dot in there or not ?`
`13:45.59`	`Kaelten`	`assuming that WSGAloc is a array no.`
`13:46.13`	`MoonWolf`	`okay`
`13:46.55`	`Kaelten`	`although you'll still need the one before it`
`13:48.31`	`KyleFurlong`	`hola!`
`13:48.43`	`Kaelten`	`dhi`
`13:48.53`	`KyleFurlong`	`I have a small noobie question`
`13:48.53`	`MoonWolf`	`pineapple!`
`13:49.04`	`MoonWolf`	`check the dylithium matrix!`
`13:49.08`	`Kaelten`	`well I'm still a noob but I'll try to help`
`13:49.23`	`KyleFurlong`	`is there any sort of wait(seconds) function that will block?`
`13:49.36`	`MoonWolf`	`sadly`
`13:49.37`	`KyleFurlong`	`Chronos is all non-blocking`
`13:49.44`	`MoonWolf`	`no`
`13:49.48`	`MoonWolf`	`i dont think so.`
`13:49.52`	`KyleFurlong`	`:-(`
`13:50.01`	`MoonWolf`	`why would you want to block though ?`
`13:50.03`	`Kaelten`	`do you mean that will just pause the function in the function?`
`13:50.17`	`KyleFurlong`	`I'm writing a server client addon`
`13:50.23`	`KyleFurlong`	`and I want to have some blocking commands`
`13:51.04`	`Kaelten`	`do you mean jsut being able to call wait(2) inside a funciton and have it pause for 2 seconds?`
`13:55.37`	`KyleFurlong`	`yes`
`13:55.53`	`Kaelten`	`you could write it, but it'd freeze wow for 2 seconds`
`13:56.03`	`KyleFurlong`	`obviously that is what I'm trying to avoid`
`13:56.10`	`maia`	`Metrognome?`
`13:56.27`	`wereHamster`	`server-client in WoW?`
`13:56.40`	`KyleFurlong`	`yup`
`13:57.00`	`MoonWolf`	`what will it DO ?`
`13:59.01`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:59.34`	`MoonWolf`	`Tekkub, wont that create an infinte loop ?`
`13:59.43`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea...`
`13:59.44`	`MoonWolf`	`unless time counts down where you are.`
`13:59.48`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:00.43`	`Tekkub`	`t == 1, GetTime() == 2 ... (1+2) < 2 == false`
`14:00.50`	`Kaelten`	`you'd have to do it via a onupdate handler, pref. through something like metrognome`
`14:01.14`	`Kaelten`	`97% done on the DL`
`14:01.36`	`Tekkub`	`whatcha downloadin?`
`14:01.51`	`MoonWolf`	`vista beta 2`
`14:02.00`	`Kaelten`	`yep`
`14:02.10`	`Tekkub`	`ah`
`14:02.25`	`Kaelten`	`I think I'm going to install it`
`14:02.26`	`KyleFurlong`	`sorry was in game`
`14:02.33`	`Kaelten`	`but I'll have to repartition my Hard drive`
`14:02.38`	`KyleFurlong`	`Tekkub, that will freeze the ui though`
`14:02.46`	`MoonWolf`	`i dont really like operating systems the require more out of my computer then WoW does.`
`14:02.49`	`Kaelten`	`kylefurlong, you'd have to do it via a onupdate handler, pref. through something like metrognome`
`14:03.00`	`KyleFurlong`	`okay`
`14:03.14`	`KyleFurlong`	`MoonWolf, It is a Guild Auction House ^_^`
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`14:03.23`	`MoonWolf`	`wow`
`14:03.23`	`KyleFurlong`	`I thought about doing it P2P`
`14:03.28`	`MoonWolf`	`that sounds interesting.`
`14:03.36`	`KyleFurlong`	`but I think Server - Client will be more feasible`
`14:03.47`	`Tekkub`	`yea, I know :)`
`14:03.56`	`KyleFurlong`	`it will conserve bandwidth`
`14:03.59`	`MoonWolf`	`hmm, but then the ah is only up when the Auctioneer server is up.`
`14:04.07`	`KyleFurlong`	`true`
`14:04.20`	`KyleFurlong`	`but with a P2P solution you run into the same sort of issues`
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`14:04.53`	`KyleFurlong`	`I'm working on a system whereby the server stores backups on client addons`
`14:04.57`	`MoonWolf`	`i am very interested how this will end up.`
`14:05.08`	`KyleFurlong`	`so that if the server goes down, there can be read only access`
`14:05.24`	`KyleFurlong`	`possibly some P2P syncronization`
`14:05.35`	`KyleFurlong`	`to go along with that feature`
`14:05.49`	`MoonWolf`	`promote another client to server ? if they have all the info.`
`14:06.50`	`KyleFurlong`	`well`
`14:06.55`	`KyleFurlong`	`possibly`
`14:07.01`	`KyleFurlong`	`wait`
`14:07.07`	`KyleFurlong`	`Yes, something like tthat`
`14:07.20`	`KyleFurlong`	`but that would only be allowed between people with high enough rank`
`14:07.38`	`MoonWolf`	`guild internal policy imho`
`14:07.44`	`KyleFurlong`	`lol`
`14:07.54`	`KyleFurlong`	`but actually there are two separate addons ATM`
`14:08.01`	`KyleFurlong`	`a server addon and a client addon`
`14:08.19`	`KyleFurlong`	`I'm trying to make it as unhackable as possible`
`14:08.39`	`KyleFurlong`	`another reason for not using P2P`
`14:08.47`	`KyleFurlong`	:`-(
`14:09.39`	`MoonWolf`	`im sure you will do a great job`
`14:09.46`	`KyleFurlong`	`I hope so!`
`14:09.48`	`MoonWolf`	`although its kinda of a big thing to do`
`14:09.57`	`KyleFurlong`	`Ideally it will use the Blizz AH ui`
`14:10.15`	`KyleFurlong`	`and the auctioneer server will use mail commands to emulate the AH mail system`
`14:10.21`	`KyleFurlong`	`^_^`
`14:10.23`	`MoonWolf`	`ideally blizzard needs to add more categories to their ah.`
`14:10.34`	`MoonWolf`	`and change stuff around`
`14:10.37`	`Tekkub`	`gee really?`
`14:10.44`	`MoonWolf`	`yeah`
`14:10.44`	`KyleFurlong`	`Tekkub, @ me?`
`14:10.45`	`Tekkub`	`eyeroll`
`14:10.50`	`Tekkub`	`no at moon`
`14:10.51`	`MoonWolf`	`we need a minipet category.`
`14:11.01`	`Tekkub`	`hey moonie.....`
`14:11.12`	`MoonWolf`	`sup ?`
`14:11.21`	`Tekkub`	`I'm sensing you want to write PeriodicAuctionHouse....`
`14:11.39`	`MoonWolf`	`if it has a minipet categorie`
`14:11.41`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`14:11.59`	`MoonWolf`	`and get trickets/rings/amulets out of the armor categorie`
`14:12.01`	`Tekkub`	`you're writing it, of course it will`
`14:12.14`	`MoonWolf`	`i want to`
`14:12.17`	`MoonWolf`	`not going to.`
`14:12.21`	`Tekkub`	`I hate you`
`14:12.50`	`MoonWolf`	`right back at you buddy.`
`14:12.53`	`Tekkub`	`okey, lesse if I can churn out some Bigwigs features today while the hubby is away`
`14:13.10`	`Tekkub`	`I'm thinking blinkable icon ala CooldownPulse`
`14:13.37`	`KyleFurlong`	`So my addon sound like a hot topic?`
`14:13.46`	`MoonWolf`	`intersting at least.`
`14:13.53`	`Tekkub`	`cough what addon was it again?`
`14:14.07`	`MoonWolf`	`the guild ah addon`
`14:14.27`	`Tekkub`	`oh, I missed that was thinking we were still on CTRA/oRA comm`
`14:14.29`	`Tekkub`	`hrm...`
`14:14.38`	`Industrial`	`WTB snow`
`14:14.45`	`Thiana`	`Morning guys`
`14:14.50`	`Industrial`	`morning Thiana`
`14:14.50`	`Tekkub`	`there was a neat lil theory-addon out there by the minigroup author you should look at`
`14:14.51`	`Kaelten`	`I love it I can burn 3gb dvd in 5 mins now :)`
`14:14.55`	`MoonWolf`	`morning thia`
`14:14.56`	`Tekkub`	`playermerchant, it was neat`
`14:14.58`	`Industrial`	`MoonWolf: its way too hot outside :(`
`14:15.07`	`MoonWolf`	`no kidding ind`
`14:15.19`	`MoonWolf`	`its a ffing 28 here.`
`14:15.37`	`MoonWolf`	`oh i was meaning ot ask you`
`14:15.38`	`Tekkub`	`28? cry`
`14:15.45`	`Kaelten`	`its 78f atm`
`14:15.54`	`Kaelten`	`going to get up into the 90s`
`14:15.58`	`MoonWolf`	`if you are not going to play on defias brotherhood anymore`
`14:15.59`	`KyleFurlong`	`Tekkub, you got a link?`
`14:16.06`	`MoonWolf`	`can i have the bags back please ?`
`14:16.08`	`Tekkub`	`lemme see`
`14:16.15`	`KyleFurlong`	`it probably implemented some things that I'm going to need to ^_^`
`14:16.32`	`Tekkub`	`http://wow.jaslaughter.com/PlayerMerchant.asp`
`14:16.50`	`Tekkub`	`it was a very neat concept, but never got fleshed out into a fully working mod`
`14:17.00`	`MoonWolf`	`oh god`
`14:17.03`	`MoonWolf`	`playermerchant`
`14:17.14`	`MoonWolf`	`i was waiting for someone to do something with that for aaages.`
`14:17.28`	`Tekkub`	`:) maybe someone will now FUCKINGHINT`
`14:18.15`	`KyleFurlong`	`^_^`
`14:18.24`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`14:18.37`	`KyleFurlong`	`I'm focused on my addon, but maybe the ui will be that`
`14:18.46`	`MoonWolf`	`if you can make a player ah`
`14:18.54`	`KyleFurlong`	`what would be the point?`
`14:18.54`	`MoonWolf`	`you damn well should be able to make a player merchant.`
`14:19.06`	`KyleFurlong`	`of a realm wide player ah that is`
`14:19.10`	`phyber`	`Tekkub: did you check out the SVN AceGCInfo? start of AceGCInFu is there.`
`14:19.16`	`MoonWolf`	`guild ah i mean.`
`14:19.20`	`phyber`	`it shows the Inc: value on FuBar :)`
`14:19.25`	`Tekkub`	`oh I forgot fiber, thanks for reminding me`
`14:19.39`	`Tekkub`	`I star'ed the commit note in gmail and fogot it :)`
`14:19.48`	`phyber`	`I going to put the Used: and Threshold: in the tooltip.`
`14:20.25`	`Tekkub`	`give toggles for each item on the bar :)`
`14:20.31`	`phyber`	`yup, that too.`
`14:20.58`	`KyleFurlong`	`I always wondered this:`
`14:21.05`	`phyber`	`at the moment, I've done it so that if it detects FuBar, it shows on FuBar right away, but if you hit Disable in FuBar, the normal frame reappears.`
`14:21.09`	`KyleFurlong`	`how do I make my own custom links in chat?`
`14:21.16`	`KyleFurlong`	`is there an api somewhere?`
`14:21.18`	`Tekkub`	`you don't`
`14:21.23`	`phyber`	`and then if you enable on FuBar again, the frame goes away.`
`14:21.33`	`MoonWolf`	`Tekkub, it is possible`
`14:21.43`	`MoonWolf`	`there are addons that turn http into links`
`14:21.44`	`Tekkub`	`oh you mean shown clientside?`
`14:21.55`	`KyleFurlong`	`yeah`
`14:21.57`	`MoonWolf`	`and long chat lines`
`14:21.59`	`KyleFurlong`	`like item links`
`14:22.01`	`Tekkub`	`I thought you mean SEND custom link`
`14:22.08`	`Tekkub`	`*meant`
`14:22.10`	`KyleFurlong`	`well`
`14:22.11`	`Tekkub`	`*l/inks`
`14:22.11`	`KyleFurlong`	`yeah`
`14:22.15`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`14:22.17`	`KyleFurlong`	`like Enchantrix`
`14:22.28`	`KyleFurlong`	`you know (Regarding [Enchantments])`
`14:22.40`	`Tekkub`	`you have to send jibbery code thru the channel and decode it on the other side and insert a custom linkstring...`
`14:22.50`	`KyleFurlong`	`eeew`
`14:22.53`	`Kaelten`	`hmm I've started the vista install`
`14:22.55`	`Kaelten`	`:s`
`14:23.02`	`KyleFurlong`	`double eeew`
`14:23.02`	`Tekkub`	`then you have to hook the function that handles the link and handle your special case`
`14:23.06`	`haste`	`it will explode!!1`
`14:23.12`	`KyleFurlong`	`nm then`
`14:23.16`	`Tekkub`	`hehe`
`14:23.22`	`MoonWolf`	`and you better damn well handle that custom link properly`
`14:23.28`	`KyleFurlong`	`I thought it was a hidden api that all clients used`
`14:23.34`	`Tekkub`	`check out Enchanter Add Shrinker for the custom link/handler code`
`14:23.40`	`Tekkub`	`it's not all that horrible`
`14:23.44`	`haste`	`Going to test Lamip now ;D`
`14:23.47`	`MoonWolf`	`cause if you dont im going to hunt you down and kill you with mendleev errors.`
`14:23.51`	`Tekkub`	`Lamip?`
`14:24.03`	`haste`	`basicly foobar for linux`
`14:24.08`	`Tekkub`	`oh`
`14:24.11`	`Tekkub`	`meh`
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`14:24.45`	`KyleFurlong`	`Tekkub, yeah I've seen it`
`14:24.48`	`Kaelten`	`good morning tem`
`14:24.56`	`KyleFurlong`	`I was trying to do it without an addon`
`14:24.57`	`Tem`	`morning`
`14:25.02`	`Tekkub`	`okey so aside from an icon and seperate scales for bags and text... and the send to UIErrors option, anything else I should slip into BigWigs today?`
`14:25.03`	`KyleFurlong`	`like for guild recruitment`
`14:25.16`	`Tekkub`	`you can't Kyle`
`14:25.26`	`KyleFurlong`	`... okay`
`14:25.35`	`Tekkub`	`you have to have an addon clientside or you're restricted to blizzy's links`
`14:25.54`	`Kaelten`	`tem I'm installing Vista :s`
`14:26.11`	`Tem`	`I played with that at work during the week some`
`14:26.16`	`Tem`	`I was actually impressed`
`14:26.34`	`Kaelten`	`cool`
`14:26.35`	`Tem`	`(with arrow)`
`14:26.37`	`MoonWolf`	`how is the installer looking ?`
`14:26.42`	`Kaelten`	`it looks spiffy`
`14:26.46`	`MoonWolf`	`great`
`14:26.53`	`MoonWolf`	`finally a non crappy installer`
`14:26.53`	`Tem`	`the installer looks nice until you're almost finished`
`14:26.57`	`haste`	`Does Vista still block Linux?`
`14:27.09`	`Kaelten`	`If I can free up enough hard drive space I'll be able to upgrade`
`14:27.13`	`Tem`	`then it gives you a "Preparing to complete installation..." on a black screen`
`14:27.16`	`Kaelten`	`which at least means faster recovery time`
`14:27.22`	`Tem`	`and it adds "..." over time`
`14:27.26`	`KyleFurlong`	`is vista 64-bit yet?`
`14:27.31`	`Hakker`	`no`
`14:27.36`	`Tem`	`and eventually fills like 4 lines of the screen with dots`
`14:27.40`	`MoonWolf`	`yes`
`14:27.45`	`MoonWolf`	`there is a 64 bit version.`
`14:27.47`	`Tem`	`yes and no`
`14:27.53`	`Hakker`	`not for the beta's`
`14:27.55`	`Tem`	`no one is using the 64bit version`
`14:27.59`	`Tem`	`but it exists`
`14:28.31`	`Hakker`	`kinda weird because the first blablabla-ing by m$ was that it would be fully 64 bit`
`14:29.02`	`Hakker`	`but the memory it will needs makes me even cry alot more`
`14:29.04`	`haste`	`the first beta or something did at least`
`14:29.41`	`Kaelten`	`so did xp for a while I think`
`14:29.47`	`Hakker`	`they recommend to use atleast 2 GB of memory`
`14:29.57`	`KyleFurlong`	`Any of you reroll on AoS?`
`14:30.06`	`haste`	`AoS?`
`14:30.08`	`Hakker`	`I just went WTF 2GB for an OS`
`14:30.33`	`KyleFurlong`	`Altar of Storms`
`14:30.51`	`Hakker`	`also not delivering DX10 for XP made me cry`
`14:31.05`	`Kaelten`	`hmm I'm having to uninstall Alchohol 120`
`14:31.09`	`KyleFurlong`	`they are bastards its true`
`14:31.16`	`Hakker`	`in general MS makes me cry`
`14:32.24`	`Hakker`	`I really hope games will come with native linux support soon because it's getting out of control]`
`14:32.55`	`haste`	`Well, things works pretty well with Cedega/Wine`
`14:33.00`	`Hakker`	`so you could run them without wine`
`14:33.13`	`Kaelten`	`and here it goes`
`14:33.17`	`Kaelten`	`hrm`
`14:33.20`	`haste`	`:D`
`14:33.22`	`Kaelten`	`I hope I don't end up regreting this`
`14:33.34`	`Hakker`	`I give you 5 minutes`
`14:33.43`	`Kaelten`	`heh`
`14:33.54`	`Kaelten`	`well I was wanting to reformat anyway, so if this bombs gives me a good reason too`
`14:34.02`	`Industrial`	`Ihttp://pastebin.ca/63710`
`14:34.06`	`Industrial`	`http://pastebin.ca/63710`
`14:34.16`	`Hakker`	`go Ubuntu or something`
`14:34.20`	`Industrial`	`I'm making me a mod that sets and does little things for me`
`14:34.30`	`Industrial`	`Is this set/getvar a good idea?`
`14:34.44`	`Industrial`	`(so i can destroy all data in disable)`
`14:35.35`	`Industrial`	`ill have other methods for savedvariables ofcource`
`14:36.50`	`MoonWolf`	`Kaelten, so how is it ?`
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`14:37.20`	`Kaelten`	`I'm 30% into the first step`
`14:37.23`	`Kaelten`	`heh`
`14:38.11`	`Kaelten`	`I'm running the beta for Office 2007`
`14:38.14`	`Kaelten`	`its very different`
`14:38.28`	`haste`	`zomg! Lamip + Foobar clone = <3<3<3`
`14:38.41`	`pagefault`	`i'm about to install vista myself here`
`14:38.53`	`Kaelten`	`I'm doing the upgrade`
`14:39.15`	`MoonWolf`	`there is a linux foobar clone ?`
`14:39.26`	`Kaelten`	`eventually I'm sure I'll have to reboot`
`14:39.32`	`MoonWolf`	`ofcourse`
`14:39.35`	`MoonWolf`	`its windows.`
`14:40.05`	`Industrial`	`I reboot enough with *nix tbh`
`14:40.27`	`Industrial`	`But thats because I'm always tinkering with it`
`14:40.33`	`MoonWolf`	`no raining on my microsoft bashing parade.`
`14:40.49`	`Industrial`	`But thats the same process as installing new things on windows`
`14:40.55`	`Industrial`	`:-)`
`14:41.11`	`pagefault`	`ah beta 2 can upgrade?`
`14:41.28`	`Kaelten`	`yep`
`14:41.43`	`pagefault`	`maybe i'll ghost my OS partition and try that`
`14:42.07`	`Kaelten`	`so far once I clicked upgrade and made a confirmation I havn't had to click on anything`
`14:45.49`	`wereHamster`	`Tekkub, I believe you that using the CTRA channel is easy.. but the design is just braindead..`
`14:46.14`	`KyleFurlong`	`I'm using Muxer`
`14:49.56`	`Kaelten`	`muxer?`
`14:51.35`	`Kaelten`	`woot step 3`
`14:51.37`	`Kaelten`	`:)`
`14:52.19`	`haste`	`step 3 of ?`
`14:52.35`	`Kaelten`	`restarting`
`14:52.39`	`Kaelten`	`be back later guys`
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`14:56.13`	`KyleFurlong`	`yeah its a library that multiplexes virtual data channels onto one WoW chat channel`
`14:56.28`	`KyleFurlong`	`so you can have as many addons with data channels as you want`
`14:56.43`	`Industrial`	`How do I move a frame with setpoint without moving one corner/point - so the whole thing`
`14:57.23`	`Industrial`	`Like with visor`
`14:57.25`	`Industrial`	`:)`
`15:00.11`	`Industrial`	`A sudden silence...`
`15:00.26`	`MoonWolf`	`not a clue`
`15:02.54`	`maia`	`.`
`15:04.15`	`Industrial`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:04.17`	`Industrial`	`--^ pacman`
`15:05.59`	`Industrial`	`I forgot ClearAllPoints(), works now :)`
`15:07.53`	`MoonWolf`	`svn*`
`15:07.55`	`MoonWolf`	`slooooooow`
`15:07.58`	`MoonWolf`	`thank you externals.`
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`15:13.22`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2615 10ColdFusionShell/: Share project 'ColdFusionShell' into 'http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/ColdFusionShell'`
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`15:20.03`	`KyleFurlong`	`CIA-17 's pupose is what?`
`15:20.18`	`MoonWolf`	`telling us what happens on the svn.`
`15:20.27`	`KyleFurlong`	`ah`
`15:21.19`	`MoonWolf`	`on a side note, we produce more changes per day then a lot of large linux distro's (this doesnt really mean anything )`
`15:21.30`	`haste`	`MoonWolf, You should try a full checkout now`
`15:21.34`	`haste`	`on a clean dir`
`15:21.47`	`MoonWolf`	`hell, its taking ages on a 2 week old dir.`
`15:21.47`	`haste`	`I compiled Firefox before it was done`
`15:22.02`	`MoonWolf`	`stil going`
`15:22.13`	`MoonWolf`	`if it wasnt for the externals`
`15:22.18`	`MoonWolf`	`i would be done a long time ago.`
`15:22.25`	`haste`	`yeh, damn externals!`
`15:22.30`	`haste`	`and they clutter the output :(`
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`15:55.22`	`KyleFurlong`	`Question!`
`15:55.44`	`KyleFurlong`	`anyone around to answer?`
`15:56.44`	`Tekkub`	`nope`
`15:57.41`	`KyleFurlong`	`:-(`
`15:58.05`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`15:58.23`	`KyleFurlong`	`nm`
`15:58.36`	`Tekkub`	`fien!`
`16:07.32`	`Wobin`	`What's the question?`
`16:07.43`	`KyleFurlong`	`I'm a fucking idiot`
`16:08.06`	`KyleFurlong`	`So I was all like, why are all these blocking requests to the server timing out`
`16:08.28`	`KyleFurlong`	`Then it hit me. If the client and server are on the same interface, and the client is blocking....`
`16:08.38`	`KyleFurlong`	`-_-`
`16:09.51`	`Tekkub`	`oreo?`
`16:11.09`	`KyleFurlong`	`mmmm cookie`
`16:11.14`	`KyleFurlong`	`^_^`
`16:11.31`	`Wobin`	`hehe`
`16:12.33`	`Tekkub`	`hey webbler`
`16:12.38`	`Tekkub`	`*wobbler`
`16:13.03`	`Tekkub`	`is CIA broken?`
`16:13.41`	`Tekkub`	`maybe just slow`
`16:15.27`	`haste`	`I bet it's ignoring you!`
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`16:21.38`	`phyber`	`sound in BigWigs needs to be a toggle.`
`16:22.02`	`phyber`	`really irritating when it keeps doing it as you're flying along because blizzard makes the flight path keep crossing a zone`
`16:23.02`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea, I wanted to make those soundless anyway`
`16:25.29`	`cladhaire`	`http://www.ceilingcat.com/`
`16:27.09`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r2617 10BigWigs/ (Core.lua Sound.lua):`
`16:27.09`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs`
`16:27.10`	`CIA-17`	`- Tweaked BIGWIGS_MESSAGE to take a 4th arg, sound. Currently only one value exists, 0 == don't play a sound. more sounds will be added in the future`
`16:27.10`	`CIA-17`	`- Changed the "target monitoring" messages to not play any sounds`
`16:31.49`	`MoonWolf`	`wb chipper`
`16:31.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yo`
`16:32.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`what's happenin'`
`16:34.54`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2618 10ColdFusionShell/ (7 files): ColdFusionShell: Initial import`
`16:34.58`	`CIA-17`	`03moonwolf * r2619 10CoC/ (. CoC.lua CoC.toc CoCGlobals.lua):`
`16:34.58`	`CIA-17`	`CoC: Adding Chains of Command, This addon is for macro's that allow you to let`
`16:34.58`	`CIA-17`	`people know what is happining in a bg. For instance, announces what bases are`
`16:34.59`	`CIA-17`	`under attack, where the enemy flag carrier is leaving your base, etc. (initial`
`16:34.59`	`CIA-17`	`import)`
`16:35.17`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r2620 10Metrognome/Lib/MetrognomeLib.lua:`
`16:35.17`	`CIA-17`	`MetrognomeLib`
`16:35.17`	`CIA-17`	`- Added 3 more args in register for passing to the timer's function. Note that if you pass a value for the second arg then elapsed time WILL NOT be passed to your function.`
`16:35.18`	`MoonWolf`	`nothing much`
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`16:41.02`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`the SVN version of FreeRefill is not working at all ...`
`16:43.27`	`wereHamster`	`is it possible to embed a library that uses textures?`
`16:43.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`MoonWolf: how'd that tracking mod work for you`
`16:43.40`	`MoonWolf`	`fine`
`16:43.48`	`hyperChipmunk`	`cool`
`16:44.02`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r2621 10Metrognome/Lib/MetrognomeLib.lua: Metrognome - What the hell lets make it 6 args`
`16:44.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`let me know if you make any changes`
`16:44.25`	`MoonWolf`	`Tekkub :O`
`16:44.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`O_o`
`16:44.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`sure why not`
`16:44.35`	`Tekkub`	`I needed 6 args :)`
`16:44.51`	`Tekkub`	`replacing Bigwig's timers with metro`
`16:45.00`	`Tekkub`	`still using Timex for the bars of course`
`16:45.17`	`MoonWolf`	`timex bars rock`
`16:45.42`	`Tekkub`	`timex bars should be an embed :)`
`16:45.57`	`MoonWolf`	`hell yeah`
`16:46.10`	`Industrial`	`hey slashdot got a spiffy new theme`
`16:46.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`timex bars should look not-crappy`
`16:46.30`	`Tekkub`	`chipmunks should lern2stfu`
`16:46.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so tiny...so ugly`
`16:47.03`	`Tekkub`	`some like it small`
`16:47.23`	`MoonWolf`	`its not about size`
`16:47.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so unmovable`
`16:47.27`	`MoonWolf`	`its what you do with it.`
`16:48.10`	`wereHamster`	`.. is it possible to embed a library that loads textures?`
`16:48.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`they're way over on the top of my screen all the way away from all my useful information`
`16:48.43`	`MoonWolf`	`http://dat.4chan.org/b/src/1149955966511.jpg <- sick.`
`16:48.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`uh, sick in what way`
`16:49.53`	`MoonWolf`	`a guy jerking of in anime panties.`
`16:50.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, I think I'll pass`
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`17:04.08`	`Industrial`	`MoonWolf: very very sad`
`17:04.15`	`Industrial`	`#FAIL`
`17:04.21`	`Kaelten`	`well I'm running vista`
`17:04.35`	`Industrial`	`and? :D`
`17:04.38`	`Industrial`	`how is it`
`17:04.44`	`Kaelten`	`its sleek`
`17:04.49`	`Kaelten`	`graphics wise is awesome`
`17:04.51`	`MoonWolf`	`i dislike an os that takes more system power then a game.`
`17:04.53`	`Kaelten`	`some neat features as well`
`17:05.00`	`Kaelten`	`but I'm using way too much ram`
`17:05.03`	`Kaelten`	`it doesn't make sense`
`17:05.22`	`MoonWolf`	`how much ?`
`17:05.39`	`Kaelten`	`on startup is around 650MB`
`17:05.46`	`MoonWolf`	`that yust isnt right.`
`17:05.47`	`Industrial`	`JEEZ`
`17:05.51`	`Industrial`	`just*`
`17:05.52`	`MoonWolf`	`vista is not for me.`
`17:05.55`	`MoonWolf`	`just*`
`17:06.04`	`Kaelten`	`ya I can't actually log in to play wow`
`17:06.09`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`17:06.18`	`MoonWolf`	`they cant expect gamers to use that.`
`17:06.22`	`Kaelten`	`I have 2 GB of ram and a GeForce 6800 GT`
`17:06.23`	`MoonWolf`	`you dont waste 1g on ram.`
`17:06.30`	`MoonWolf`	`for you damn OS`
`17:06.37`	`MoonWolf`	`your*`
`17:06.47`	`Kaelten`	`in a nother couple of years this system will rock`
`17:06.56`	`Kaelten`	`right now I'm using 718M`
`17:07.07`	`Kaelten`	`and all I got up is HydraIRC and theTask Manager`
`17:07.14`	`MoonWolf`	`right now im using the difference between those two values`
`17:07.21`	`Kaelten`	`hehe`
`17:07.38`	`Kaelten`	`I normally idled about 220 or so under XP`
`17:08.08`	`Kaelten`	`what the hell is dwm.exe?`
`17:08.17`	`MoonWolf`	`something new ?`
`17:08.25`	`Kaelten`	`and using 100MB of ram`
`17:09.07`	`MoonWolf`	`try to kill it ?`
`17:09.39`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r2622 10BigWigs/ (DelayedEvents.lua Other/Test.lua): BigWigs - DelayedEvents module now uses Metrognome for timings (Timex is still used for bars, of course.`
`17:10.02`	`Kaelten`	`it just restarts when you kill it`
`17:10.56`	`MoonWolf`	`6 years of development`
`17:11.01`	`MoonWolf`	`but no efficiency`
`17:11.47`	`Kaelten`	`I had to disable a lot of the security features`
`17:11.58`	`Kaelten`	`one in particular was just damned annoying`
`17:12.10`	`MoonWolf`	`?`
`17:12.30`	`Kaelten`	`everytime I was trying to access a system setting or something I had to authorize it`
`17:12.44`	`MoonWolf`	`ah`
`17:12.55`	`MoonWolf`	`sounds like linux, only worse.`
`17:13.42`	`Kaelten`	`lol my system is rated as a 3`
`17:14.35`	`Industrial`	`it doesnt feature somthinglike gnome keyring?`
`17:14.43`	`Industrial`	`where you enter it once for the session`
`17:14.49`	`wereHamster`	`does anyone here play WoW under linux?`
`17:14.57`	`Tekkub`	`nope`
`17:14.58`	`MoonWolf`	`i did for a while`
`17:15.06`	`MoonWolf`	`but switched back because i missed certain aps.`
`17:15.39`	`MoonWolf`	`kergoth and haste also play it under linux.`
`17:15.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I do`
`17:16.03`	`wereHamster`	`yay :)`
`17:20.07`	`Kaelten`	`it recommends a 3gb pagefile?`
`17:20.08`	`Kaelten`	`geez`
`17:22.42`	`Industrial`	`I just put my pagefile fixed at 2*ram size`
`17:22.56`	`Industrial`	`on a different drive`
`17:23.12`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2623 10IFrameManager/: Share project 'IFrameManager' into 'http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/IFrameManager'`
`17:24.30`	`Kaelten`	`apparently dwm.exe is what runs the high level interface graphics`
`17:25.04`	`MoonWolf`	`tried switching to something more basic yet ?`
`17:25.13`	`Kaelten`	`ya it dropped it down a good bit`
`17:25.29`	`Kaelten`	`I'm back at windoes 98 type graphics`
`17:26.02`	`Kaelten`	`I've never understood why 700 mb of memory use makes this big of an impact when I have 2gb of ram`
`17:26.50`	`CIA-17`	`03cladhaire 07Unstable * r2624 10Clique/Clique/ (5 files):`
`17:26.50`	`CIA-17`	`Clique:`
`17:26.50`	`CIA-17`	`* Added syntax coloring in the editor`
`17:26.50`	`CIA-17`	`* Added a name edit field`
`17:26.50`	`CIA-17`	`* Added preliminary support for shapeshift/forms (They dont work yet)`
`17:26.50`	`CIA-17`	`* Currently hooks PlayerFrame, and does just fine =)`
`17:26.55`	`Kaelten`	`brb`
`17:27.30`	`Tekkub`	`god I love Hybrid, whatever happened to dem?`
`17:27.33`	`MoonWolf`	`what is clique ?`
`17:27.51`	`Tekkub`	`watchdog clickcasting`
`17:27.54`	`MoonWolf`	`hybrid as in class, band, developer, person ?`
`17:28.27`	`Tekkub`	`band/DJ/mixer/whatever`
`17:28.40`	`cladhaire`	`Better than WatchDog clickcasting`
`17:28.44`	`MoonWolf`	`never heard of it/them.`
`17:28.52`	`Tekkub`	`it was something I picked up (for free^^) at walmart when I worked there...`
`17:29.05`	`Tekkub`	`I picked up this CD with this ugly face on it...`
`17:29.12`	`Tekkub`	`lesse digs on allmusic`
`17:29.27`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:6gjuear54xd7`
`17:29.37`	`Tekkub`	`I see that and I'm like "WTF mate?"`
`17:30.00`	`MoonWolf`	`wow`
`17:30.01`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2625 10IFrameFactory/: Share project 'IFrameFactory' into 'http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/IFrameFactory'`
`17:30.03`	`Tekkub`	`so I listened to the sample, liked it, stole it, and it's been one of my fav electronica groups since`
`17:30.17`	`Tekkub`	`and they only made like 2 albums cry`
`17:30.24`	`MoonWolf`	`some people really look fucked up :P`
`17:30.50`	`Tekkub`	`oh hey, they put out something in 04 also`
`17:30.51`	`MoonWolf`	`reminds me off http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/rubberjohnny.html`
`17:30.57`	`Tekkub`	`*mininovas`
`17:31.19`	`Tekkub`	`stupid rubbr jhonny`
`17:31.40`	`MoonWolf`	`it just remided me`
`17:32.08`	`Tekkub`	`wasn't RJ somehow related to Aphex Twin or something?`
`17:32.25`	`MoonWolf`	`eeeuh`
`17:32.32`	`MoonWolf`	`dont remember anything of the sort.`
`17:33.05`	`Tekkub`	`meh, who knows`
`17:33.16`	`Tekkub`	`RJ makes me think of AT's odd ambient stuff`
`17:33.42`	`cladhaire`	`Tekkub: would you mind looking at Clique when you get a moment.`
`17:33.51`	`cladhaire`	`you can edit any set of click castings, but only Default Friendly work`
`17:33.52`	`Tekkub`	`whatcha needink?`
`17:33.55`	`cladhaire`	`and only on the playerframe at the momen.`
`17:34.01`	`cladhaire`	`just take a look at it in general`
`17:34.06`	`cladhaire`	`get a feel for how it works, make suggestions`
`17:34.14`	`Tekkub`	`k`
`17:34.42`	`cladhaire`	`i dont like having to make the key each click, but thats minimal`
`17:34.51`	`cladhaire`	`just open your spellbook to play with it.`
`17:35.10`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.mininova.org/tor/330782 <-- Hybrid - Wide Angle, go DL it`
`17:35.15`	`Tekkub`	`it's mah favs :)`
`17:36.50`	`clad\|gym`	`Tekkub: Right now, it CLears your target, runs the actino, spelltargetunit the unit, then targetlasttarget`
`17:36.56`	`clad\|gym`	`it'll be more complex, since it allows arbitrary scrits`
`17:37.01`	`clad\|gym`	`s/scrits/scripts/`
`17:37.04`	`clad\|gym`	`but you'll get the idea for it.`
`17:37.04`	`Tekkub`	`:) okey`
`17:37.06`	`clad\|gym`	`bbl`
`17:37.53`	`MoonWolf`	`damn heat`
`17:41.06`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2626 10IFrameFactory/ (IFrameFactory.toc Lib/ Lib/IFrameFactory.lua README): IFrameFactory: Initial import`
`17:42.25`	`MoonWolf`	`http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5497/mmorpgpopular7hl.jpg SFW funny`
`17:47.40`	`Industrial`	`its saturday`
`17:48.08`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2627 10IFrameManager/ (5 files): IFrameManager: Initial import`
`17:49.26`	`CIA-17`	`03werehamster * r2628 10IFrameFactory/Lib/IFrameFactory.lua: IFrameFactory: add svn:keywords Revision`
`17:59.43`	`Kyahx`	`morning =)`
`18:10.35`	`Industrial`	`morning`
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`18:18.31`	`Kyahx`	`Whats the best way to stop an addond from loading if playing isnt "x" class?`
`18:18.46`	`Kyahx`	`Silly druids trying to load SmartRes =P`
`18:19.24`	`phyber`	`put a big if statement around it :p`
`18:20.26`	`Kyahx`	`seriously?`
`18:21.59`	`[ven]`	`Gello made wow quit with Waterboy if the client wasn't enUS`
`18:22.08`	`Industrial`	`if not ({Classes=1,Be=1,Here=1})[UnitClass('player')] then self:Disable() end`
`18:22.09`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`18:26.05`	`Wobin`	`Interesting`
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`18:31.46`	`Tekcub`	`damnit`
`18:31.54`	`Tekcub`	`<Tekkub> define "prevent from loading"`
`18:31.54`	`Tekcub`	`<Tekkub> you want it to not even pull itsself into memory or just load and not run?`
`18:32.35`	`Tekcub`	`if you just want not even loaded.... local _,c = UnitClass("player") if c == "DRUID" then return end`
`18:32.41`	`Tekcub`	`at the top of your file`
`18:34.59`	`Wobin`	`I like Indy's`
`18:35.09`	`Wobin`	`if not ({Classes=1,Be=1,Here=1})[UnitClass('player')] then self:Disable() end`
`18:35.14`	`Wobin`	`but just have return end`
`18:35.36`	`Tekcub`	`shrug either works`
`18:35.46`	`Tekcub`	`mine will save you a smidgen of memory`
`18:36.05`	`Tekcub`	`and assure that they never ever use it :)`
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`18:42.27`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hehe`
`18:42.42`	`MoonWolf`	`brilliant.`
`18:43.11`	`wereHamster`	`what's naxxaramis?`
`18:43.36`	`MoonWolf`	`new highend instance of doom.`
`18:44.00`	`wereHamster`	`naxxaramas?`
`18:44.28`	`MoonWolf`	`whaterver you spell it.`
`18:46.01`	`Kyahx`	`hmm, it still loads the keybinding file. Oh well I guess`
`18:48.16`	`wereHamster`	`you mean Bindings.xml?`
`18:48.45`	`Kyahx`	`yea`
`18:49.04`	`wereHamster`	`that will be loaded always..`
`18:49.06`	`Kyahx`	`so, I still have the SmartRes keybinding in my keybindings menu, even thou the mod isn't loaded`
`18:49.17`	`Kyahx`	`Necronomicon bypasses loading it if your not a warlock somehow`
`18:49.29`	`wereHamster`	`even the keybindings?`
`18:50.24`	`Kyahx`	`yea, you dont get the keybindings unless your a warlock`
`18:52.44`	`Kyahx`	`Blizard should make this easier, they should just give us an option in the TOC :P`
`19:01.06`	`wereHamster`	`Kyahx, then look at the Necronomicon source how he did it ;)`
`19:01.27`	`Kyahx`	`I can't figure it out, thats what I was doing. hehe`
`19:02.13`	`wereHamster`	`isn't he just hiding the keybindings?`
`19:04.16`	`wereHamster`	`does tortoisesvn automatically fetch exteral references?`
`19:05.28`	`haste`	`You could also ask him ;D`
`19:07.13`	`CIA-17`	`03kyahx * r2629 10SmartRes/ (SmartRes.lua SmartResLocals.lua): SmartRes: Will no longer load for Unsupported classes.`
`19:12.24`	`Tekcub`	`yes wH`
`19:12.30`	`Tekcub`	`unless you tell it not to`
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`19:20.14`	`clad\|gym`	`Tekcub: Did you take a look at all?`
`19:20.38`	`Tekcub`	`not yet, trying to accomplish something with BigWigs for once`
`19:20.46`	`Tekcub`	`BTW did I mention I hate AceDB?`
`19:20.52`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`19:20.53`	`cladhaire`	`so dont use it`
`19:20.55`	`cladhaire`	`and quit bitching =)`
`19:21.06`	`Tekcub`	`yea but I do need the profiley shit... hrm...`
`19:21.10`	`Tekcub`	`or do I?`
`19:21.18`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`19:21.20`	`cladhaire`	`i make my own profiles`
`19:21.28`	`Tekcub`	`IRC vote! Ditch savedvar profiles in BigWigs?`
`19:21.37`	`Tekcub`	`yea I know clad :P`
`19:21.46`	`cladhaire`	`local profile = SavedVariable[string.format("%s of %s", UnitName("player"), GetRealmName())]`
`19:21.48`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`19:22.08`	`Tekcub`	`think I should just say fuckit and run SVPC?`
`19:22.16`	`Tekcub`	`I like that idea kinda`
`19:22.38`	`cladhaire`	`svpc?`
`19:22.45`	`Tekcub`	`savedvarperchar`
`19:22.49`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`19:22.55`	`cladhaire`	`if you dont need to copy setting from user to user, yes.`
`19:23.00`	`Tekcub`	`makes it easy on me`
`19:23.12`	`Tekcub`	`I don't feel like implementing that... no`
`19:23.19`	`Tekcub`	`options:`
`19:23.24`	`Tekcub`	`implement profiles`
`19:23.30`	`Tekcub`	`implement copying`
`19:23.40`	`Tekcub`	`just let the user reconfig on ever char`
`19:23.48`	`Tekcub`	`I pick (C)`
`19:24.07`	`Wobin`	`yargh`
`19:24.14`	`Tekcub`	`what wobble?`
`19:24.14`	`Wobin`	`longest zg ever =P`
`19:24.17`	`Tekcub`	`kek`
`19:24.29`	`Wobin`	`now I have to go kill kurinaxx again`
`19:24.36`	`Wobin`	`since my venom sac went missing for some reason`
`19:24.38`	`Tekcub`	`our ZG is later today, but my will to raid is as high as my DKP`
`19:24.47`	`Wobin`	`negative?`
`19:24.52`	`Tekcub`	`-81 BTW`
`19:25.47`	`Wobin`	`ZG is pretty easy as a hunter`
`19:25.57`	`Wobin`	`I switched out halfway on this pug from hunter to priest`
`19:25.59`	`Tekcub`	`hey there's an idea for better AceDB if it happens`
`19:26.19`	`Tekcub`	`when you make a new one, option to take a global SV table and a per-char`
`19:26.23`	`Wobin`	`but damn.. the Bloodlord battle was just me piling on PW:S over and over =P`
`19:26.31`	`Tekcub`	`screw the copy between toons stuff :)`
`19:26.38`	`Tekcub`	`they can inherrit from global`
`19:27.21`	`Wobin`	`What time is it atm for you Tekk?`
`19:41.13`	`ckknight`	`back`
`19:41.42`	`Elkano`	`ho ckknight :)`
`19:43.28`	`ckknight`	`lol, Tekcub, getting impatient now that you see AceLocale?`
`19:43.34`	`Elkano`	`I'm working on a fix for the BattlegroundMinimap not opening by HonorFu. I've hunted down the bug: when PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fires, GetRealZoneText doesn't return the correct value yet so GloryLib returns false for IsInBattlegrounds(). This results in the timer not being started so the Minimap is not opend.`
`19:43.59`	`Tekcub`	`^^`
`19:44.08`	`ckknight`	`oh, I fixed that, I thought, Elkano`
`19:44.16`	`ckknight`	`it was a bug with HonorFu`
`19:44.22`	`ckknight`	`metrognome name`
`19:44.31`	`ckknight`	`did you get the SVN?`
`19:45.06`	`Elkano`	`nope, the timer is only started if GloryLib returns true for IsInBattlegrounds(), but it doesn't when called on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD`
`19:45.14`	`CIA-17`	`03cladhaire 07Unstable * r2630 10Clique/Clique/CliqueModules.lua: Clique: Module system is in place, kinda =) Shoudl work on all default Blizzard unit frames (player, target, party, partypet)`
`19:45.16`	`Elkano`	`and yes, I'm using the SVN version`
`19:45.22`	`ckknight`	`rm`
`19:45.24`	`ckknight`	`hrm*`
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`19:45.28`	`ckknight`	`I dunno, then`
`19:45.50`	`Elkano`	`I'm working on a fix atm, will check if it's working when I get into a BG next time`
`19:45.53`	`Tekcub`	`getting command handlers and savedvar management added to BigWigs grin`
`19:46.11`	`Tekcub`	`so that modules can now toggle on-off certain messages/bars/etc`
`19:46.15`	`haste`	`can this be true? is Tekcub actually working on bigwigs?`
`19:46.43`	`Tekcub`	`yea haste, added sync stuff yesterday`
`19:46.50`	`Wobin`	`Tekcub: What time is it for you atm?`
`19:46.51`	`Elkano`	`I've changed it in a way that the timer is always started on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD and will stop if you are in BG and the map is open or if GetRealZoneName returns sth ~= ""`
`19:46.53`	`haste`	`gasps`
`19:47.01`	`Tekcub`	`want to get core complete so maybe we can push out a real release`
`19:47.10`	`Elkano`	`btw: you never stoped the timer. intentionaly?`
`19:47.15`	`Tekcub`	`Wob: 14:47`
`19:47.24`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`19:47.31`	`Tekcub`	`nani?`
`19:47.40`	`Wobin`	`And what time are you available to play on Suramar generally?`
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`19:47.55`	`ckknight`	`Elkano, eep?`
`19:48.01`	`Tekcub`	`depends on work... if I'm nights after 9:30ish`
`19:48.17`	`Tekcub`	`if I'm days, 6-9ish`
`19:48.23`	`Wobin`	`pm?`
`19:48.27`	`Tekcub`	`yarr`
`19:48.30`	`Wobin`	`hm`
`19:48.35`	`Elkano`	`eep?`
`19:48.37`	`Tekcub`	`I got my sched in a google calendar if you want`
`19:48.39`	`Wobin`	`hokay`
`19:49.21`	`Wobin`	`I'ma gonna go sleep now`
`19:49.25`	`Wobin`	`night all`
`19:49.27`	`Tekcub`	`you got gmail?`
`19:49.32`	`Wobin`	`wobster@gmail.com`
`19:49.37`	`Tekcub`	`righto`
`19:50.03`	`Wobin`	`Oh and please break PlowKing if you can`
`19:50.08`	`Wobin`	`it probably won't be too hard =P`
`19:53.03`	`ckknight`	`Elkano, the timer should stop, I think`
`19:53.26`	`Elkano`	`the only stop I found was when you disable the plugin`
`19:54.22`	`Elkano`	`btw: having ExpFu and HonorFu shown seperatly I can't disable HonorFu :/ I have to disable ExpFu, too in order to disable it`
`19:54.36`	`Elkano`	`(haven't checked other way around yet)`
`19:56.31`	`ckknight`	`you separate HonorFu, then disable`
`19:56.59`	`Elkano`	`as I said: I have them sperated`
`19:59.31`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`19:59.32`	`ckknight`	`odd`
`20:00.25`	`Elkano`	and I get the following bug when clicking HonorFu's disable: HonorFu.lua:220: GloryLib: Bad argument #2 to `UnregisterAll' (table expected, got nil)
`20:01.50`	`Elkano`	`ah, OK, HonorFu will disable with the next plugin I disable. So nothing to do wit ExpFu`
`20:06.45`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight * r2631 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua: GloryLib - fixed nil bug.`
`20:06.47`	`Thrae`	`Hmmm. What's the difference between hiding UI children by hiding their parents, and iterating through a list of the same frames?`
`20:12.08`	`haste`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8Ec7pxC8ts << cool serie`
`20:12.11`	`ckknight`	`what can I work on now?`
`20:12.46`	`Tekcub`	`make me dinner`
`20:12.55`	`Tekcub`	`my hubby's out playing and I'm hungry`
`20:13.00`	`Tekcub`	`will program for food`
`20:14.18`	`haste`	`I can compile subversion and commit the backup I had of oUF2`
`20:15.35`	`kergoth`	`"Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."`
`20:22.45`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`20:23.04`	`Elkano`	`ok, my fix isn't working :( GetRealZoneText is simply lagging behind :/`
`20:23.31`	`Elkano`	`But now I've got the battlefieldmap showing SW ^^ who needs alphamap with sth like this ;)`
`20:25.00`	`kergoth`	`ooh, it works outside of bg? i want`
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`20:29.56`	`Kaelten`	`ok its official`
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`20:30.04`	`Kaelten`	`vista is unusable`
`20:30.05`	`Kaelten`	`:s`
`20:30.20`	`Kaelten`	`I'm going to have to reformat tonight`
`20:31.17`	`Kaelten`	`so I'll be gone for a while`
`20:31.19`	`kergoth`	`is this the part where we act surprised?`
`20:31.20`	`kergoth`	`:P`
`20:31.24`	`Kaelten`	`hehe`
`20:31.25`	`Kaelten`	`not really`
`20:31.31`	`Kaelten`	`I just didn't think it would be this bad`
`20:31.41`	`Kaelten`	`audio/video playback is choppy.`
`20:31.47`	`Kaelten`	`and wow gets about 5 fps`
`20:31.51`	`kergoth`	`it was fun`
`20:31.58`	`kergoth`	`every single install went differently`
`20:32.03`	`kergoth`	`not one happened the same way twice`
`20:32.11`	`Kaelten`	`sounds like windows ME`
`20:32.41`	`Kaelten`	`well at least I have windows xp to fall back on :s`
`20:33.41`	`Kaelten`	`this sucks`
`20:33.44`	`Kaelten`	`bah`
`20:33.47`	`Kaelten`	`see ya later`
`20:33.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`=p`
`20:36.20`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
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`21:03.03`	`Syzx`	`why does Visor show up 10 times with the /visor command on /ace list?`
`21:03.11`	`Syzx`	`it's spammy`
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`21:05.42`	`ckknight`	`hey maia`
`21:06.57`	`kergoth`	`argh, getting static on my sound in wow under cedega..`
`21:07.39`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, I may have missed it earlier, but do you have unit tests for AceOO?`
`21:08.55`	`kergoth`	`i do, buried amongst my 19 or 20 implementations... :P i'll dig it up in a bit`
`21:09.19`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`21:09.36`	`maia`	`heya, ckk :)`
`21:10.00`	`ckknight`	`also, what do you think about classes being libraries and then somehow updating its instances to the new versions?`
`21:10.09`	`ckknight`	`possible?`
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`21:15.11`	`Tekcub`	`burp`
`21:15.36`	`ckknight`	`...`
`21:15.45`	`Tekcub`	`eh?`
`21:21.27`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: well, its methods and its prototypes methods can easily be replaced by the new versions... but if theres other changes to its objects, like data format changes, then itd have to create a prototype.init that tracks its objects in a weak table`
`21:21.57`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`21:22.29`	`ckknight`	`so currently that doesn't happen, right?`
`21:24.28`	`Tekcub`	`here it comes...`
`21:24.30`	`Tekcub`	`it's a big one`
`21:24.32`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub * r2632 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)`
`21:24.32`	`CIA-17`	`BigWigs`
`21:24.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Moved Savedvar to a SavedvarPerChar, so no need for profiling logic (wewt!)`
`21:24.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Added proper module slash command handing, so now modules can add slosh commands, see message/sound/bars modules for examples.`
`21:24.32`	`CIA-17`	`- Added Savedvariable management. Every module will receive GetOpt, SetOpt,`
`21:24.33`	`CIA-17`	`TogOpt methods when they register with the core. *BIG NOTE READ ME* This is`
`21:24.37`	`CIA-17`	`_NOT_ AceDB style Opt methods, they will return back values from the modules'`
`21:25.00`	`Tekcub`	`wewt!`
`21:26.27`	`kergoth`	`ckknight, correct, its up to the class to decide whether it needs to track its objects or not`
`21:26.43`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`21:27.16`	`ckknight`	`and if its methods/prototype methods change, then do the instances get updated automatically?`
`21:27.28`	`ckknight`	`or would it interfere with mros or whatever?`
`21:29.04`	`kergoth`	`currently we rely on __index's being tables, therse no caching of methods in the local object`
`21:29.07`	`kergoth`	`so that isnt an issue`
`21:30.22`	`kergoth`	`hmm, i should test out plowking, havent in a while`
`21:31.32`	`Syzx`	`why does Visor show up 10 times with the /visor command on /ace list?`
`21:31.59`	`MoonWolf`	`because of the way its modules are designed.`
`21:32.01`	`MoonWolf`	`talk to facboy`
`21:32.02`	`ckknight`	`I see another issue`
`21:32.19`	`ckknight`	`AceLibrary currently does a shallow replace`
`21:32.25`	`ckknight`	`so the prototype table doesn't change`
`21:32.34`	`ckknight`	`but the .prototype field changes to a new table`
`21:32.36`	`CIA-17`	`03maia * r2633 10Squishy/ (Squishy.toc core.lua): Squishy: added support for JustClick`
`21:32.45`	`ckknight`	`so the instances will inherit from the old table`
`21:32.47`	`ckknight`	`not the new one`
`21:33.14`	`ckknight`	`two ways to fix this: change AceLibrary to do a deep replace, or manually change all instances`
`21:34.19`	`kergoth`	`well, we could do a class that implements a default activate/deactivate that update prototype, then if you inherit from that rather than Class, you're set`
`21:34.24`	`kergoth`	`LibraryClass or something?`
`21:35.00`	`ckknight`	`basically, it'd have to have its own RegisterWithAceLibrary method`
`21:35.44`	`kergoth`	`wait, i dont see what the problem is. the prototype will point at the new prototype table. whats the issue with that?`
`21:36.00`	`kergoth`	`oh, the inheritence hierarchy wont be updated`
`21:36.00`	`kergoth`	`hmm`
`21:36.04`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`21:36.24`	`ckknight`	`with your own activate method, it's easily workable`
`21:36.45`	`kergoth`	`does the replaceinstance of your acelibrary run after activate or before?`
`21:37.14`	`ckknight`	`it does a shallow copy of the old, then replaces the old table with the new`
`21:37.18`	`ckknight`	`then calls activate`
`21:38.49`	`kergoth`	`that breaks class inheritence right there, since the subclasses will still be pointing at the old superclass table. the old acelibrary replaced the instance table member by table member, which didnt break it since its the same table`
`21:38.51`	`kergoth`	`hmmm`
`21:38.59`	`kergoth`	`even not considering prototype`
`21:39.08`	`kergoth`	`class B -> Class A and Class B proto -> Class A proto`
`21:39.24`	`ckknight`	`subclasses?`
`21:39.39`	`kergoth`	`yeah, if someone inherits from the library class`
`21:39.45`	`kergoth`	`their __index will be pointing at the old table`
`21:39.59`	`ckknight`	`yea, which is fine`
`21:41.21`	`ckknight`	`cause it updates to the new`
`21:41.21`	`ckknight`	`except .prototype`
`21:41.21`	`kergoth`	`you just said it replaced the old table with the new, not that it replaced the methods in the old table with the new ones`
`21:41.22`	`kergoth`	`which is it?`
`21:41.22`	`ckknight`	`latter`
`21:41.22`	`kergoth`	`okay, that makes more sense then`
`21:41.22`	`ckknight`	`unless I run a replace from the new prototype to the old prototype`
`21:41.22`	`kergoth`	`so it is just proto thats the issue`
`21:41.22`	`ckknight`	`yes`
`21:41.46`	`ckknight`	`which _could_ be handled with a special activate method`
`21:41.59`	`kergoth`	`i dont like putting that into acelibrary proper, its aceoo specific. i'd prefer a class that implements an activate that you can inherit from to get it. just as the mixin library piece should be a seperate class than mixin, and seperate from acelibrary`
`21:42.11`	`kergoth`	`you'd just have to remember to call your parent class's activate`
`21:42.27`	`kergoth`	`in yours`
`21:42.34`	`kergoth`	`(if you have one at all)`
`21:43.19`	`ckknight`	`another possible fix is a deep table replace, but that could be expensive`
`21:43.45`	`ckknight`	`so I don't really want to go down that route`
`21:43.58`	`kergoth`	`yeah, i agree`
`21:44.51`	`kergoth`	`has anyone done a little addon to generate ace events on a unit (player, party, raid) entering/leaving combat?`
`21:45.09`	`ckknight`	`player is easy`
`21:45.17`	`ckknight`	`cause it's already provided`
`21:45.18`	`Tekcub`	`hrm... could be done easily from CombatantsFu kergy`
`21:45.26`	`kergoth`	`ah, theres an event for player? dont have to poll?`
`21:45.40`	`Tekcub`	`regen enable/disable`
`21:45.41`	`kergoth`	`Tekcub, i was thinking that, since an addon like that has to do the same sort of scanning`
`21:45.50`	`kergoth`	`ah.`
`21:45.57`	`Tekcub`	`make a SE module for combat :)`
`21:46.07`	`Tekcub`	`and convert combatants to use it`
`21:46.45`	`kergoth`	`thats a good idea. then i can drop iriel's old watchcombat too, in favor of a teeeeny addon to just put messages in the message display from those events`
`21:47.21`	`Tekcub`	`gimme a min and I'll throw it together for you`
`21:47.57`	`kergoth`	`you dont have to do that.. i can look into it. will take me longer of course, but then i'd be relearning wow api stuffs, so either way :)`
`21:49.07`	`Tekcub`	`well I've got the code already, I just have to mesh together two diff files basically`
`21:49.15`	`kergoth`	`finally! got alsa configured so multiple apps can play sound on my linux box at the same time`
`21:49.18`	`kergoth`	`pain in the ass`
`21:49.22`	`Tekcub`	`and it makes sense, Combatants would use it and now so would you`
`21:49.24`	`kergoth`	`pathetic, considering windows does it without breaking a sweat`
`21:49.28`	`kergoth`	`okay`
`21:50.02`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, http://pastebin.ca/63928`
`21:50.04`	`kergoth`	`this started with me thinking about itemrack events. i was thinking about an automatic swap in/out of the minor movement speed boot enchant based on entering/leaving combat`
`21:50.12`	`ckknight`	`that's what each class would have to do`
`21:50.17`	`kergoth`	`(when not in pvp, naturally)`
`21:51.23`	`Tekcub`	`problem with that kerg`
`21:51.30`	`Tekcub`	`can't swap when in combat`
`21:51.30`	`kergoth`	`ckknight, yep, looks right. should definately move it into a class or a method to mix in, to avoid code duplication`
`21:51.45`	`Tekcub`	`you could only do the OOC swap`
`21:51.47`	`kergoth`	`oh thats right, dangit, would have to replace my actionbuttons with macros to do it before doing it`
`21:52.00`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, right, well, people'd really just need to do:`
`21:52.05`	`kergoth`	`the way i do my stealth boots with my rogue`
`21:53.05`	`kergoth`	`Tekcub, you and wobin have cash in your mailbox on suramar if you havent noticed already. let me know if you guys need anything else. i think i'm gonna start a new hunter and level with you two`
`21:53.17`	`Tekcub`	`(sweets)`
`21:53.20`	`Tekcub`	`havn't been on yet`
`21:53.34`	`ckknight`	`http://pastebin.ca/63929`
`21:53.42`	`Tekcub`	`BTW I got a google calendar with my work sched in it too`
`21:53.50`	`Tekcub`	`to make it a tad easier on us :)`
`21:54.14`	`ckknight`	`or http://pastebin.ca/63930`
`21:55.46`	`ckknight`	`and the ReplacePrototype function can exist in AceOO (hopefully), so people's just do AceOO.ReplacePrototype(self, oldLib)`
`21:56.17`	`ckknight`	`that's my best solution`
`21:56.31`	`kergoth`	`ckknight, or http://pastebin.ca/63931`
`21:56.54`	`kergoth`	`better, http://pastebin.ca/63932`
`21:57.27`	`ckknight`	`works for me`
`21:58.50`	`ckknight`	`would you want LibraryClass to be in a separate file or in AceOO?`
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`21:59.09`	`kergoth`	`i'd say just throw it in AceOO. AceOO already requires acelibrary anyway`
`21:59.13`	`kergoth`	`doesnt really matter though`
`21:59.16`	`ckknight`	`fair enough`
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`22:00.02`	`kergoth`	`doing it this way, if the object model changes, we can add additional library bits to that class if need be. should provide a no-op deactivate so you can call LibraryClass:deactivate(foo) in your deactivate without knowing whether it really implements it (avoid the if block)`
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`22:04.32`	`kergoth`	`one thing i hate about using svk all the time is that it doesnt support svn externals (it's soon gaining "views", more on part with clearcase or perforce, less hackish like svn's), so i have to do those ccheckouts manually`
`22:05.57`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, how many bytes does function() end take up?`
`22:08.41`	`kergoth`	`there we go:`
`22:08.41`	`kergoth`	`alternatively, could create a factory for it and just do local mylibclass = AceOO.LibClass(actualsuperclass) or something. shrug`
`22:08.41`	`kergoth`	`er`
`22:08.42`	`kergoth`	`svk propget svn:externals\|perl -ne 'chomp; ($lib, $path) = /(\S+)\s+(.*)$/; if ($lib) {$path=~s,http://svn.wowace.com/root,//mirror/wowace,; system("svk cp $path $lib");}'`
`22:08.44`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`22:09.08`	`MoonWolf`	`perl`
`22:09.12`	`kergoth`	`ckknight, ~/code/lua/luabits$ ./gcsizes.lua`
`22:09.12`	`kergoth`	`userdata, empty, full: 19.53B`
`22:09.12`	`kergoth`	`function: 19.53B`
`22:09.12`	`kergoth`	`table: 31.25B`
`22:09.19`	`MoonWolf`	`arn't you a ruby/python person ?`
`22:09.26`	`kergoth`	`yep, but perl is god for text mangling`
`22:09.31`	`ckknight`	`still ugly`
`22:09.33`	`kergoth`	`nothing like having a built in regex operator in the language`
`22:09.43`	`ckknight`	`I don't mind python's regex`
`22:09.52`	`kergoth`	`lots of overhead though, compared to s///; :)`
`22:09.53`	`ckknight`	`though I think it'd be better if they did put in regex`
`22:10.05`	`kergoth`	`i'd love to see a new language like D have one`
`22:10.06`	`ckknight`	`Boo did it, and it's very much like python`
`22:10.23`	`ckknight`	`if 'alpha' =~ /lph/:`
`22:10.24`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:10.56`	`kergoth`	`nice`
`22:11.24`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2634 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - deactivateFunc, if not provided will be function() end`
`22:11.53`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, also, that way, it compiled em beforehand`
`22:12.06`	`kergoth`	`i wouldve put it in the new library class, but shrug`
`22:12.21`	`ckknight`	`naw, it's a handy feature`
`22:12.31`	`ckknight`	`so that all libs can use it`
`22:12.38`	`kergoth`	`with a // with no variable references, its like a constant, no reason to compile it right there`
`22:12.52`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`22:13.12`	`ckknight`	`instead of having to do re.compile('stuff') at runtime`
`22:13.15`	`ckknight`	`it does it at compile time`
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`22:13.26`	`kergoth`	`cool stuff`
`22:13.36`	`ckknight`	`and thus if you do it twice, it's one regex`
`22:15.26`	`ckknight`	`part of be thinks that the deactivate function is too complicated and shouldn't exist at all`
`22:15.34`	`ckknight`	`but another part thinks that there is some fringe case that needs it`
`22:16.09`	`kergoth`	`what i liek about seperating activate and deactivate is`
`22:16.33`	`kergoth`	`well, some of the version specific crap in the new version's activate can be in the old version's deactivate`
`22:16.40`	`kergoth`	`not all, but you'd think itd clean it up a little`
`22:16.44`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`22:16.47`	`ckknight`	`I suppose`
`22:17.41`	`kergoth`	`file based package management systems need prerm/postrm preinst/postinst, mostly due to the fact that they can survive failure at any point. in other words, they allow activate to fail and result in a clean proper rollback`
`22:17.44`	`kergoth`	`at any point`
`22:17.52`	`kergoth`	`but i doubt we need anything that complex, even if it is cool`
`22:18.36`	`kergoth`	`man, plowking is so cool. cant wait till its ready for release`
`22:20.12`	`kergoth`	`sure makes me realize just how much of my inventory is trade goods. jesus`
`22:20.14`	`ckknight`	`yea, my main issue was that deactivate wasn't a destroy/removal, it was just a preparation method for the next activate`
`22:20.15`	`ckknight`	`oh well`
`22:20.20`	`ckknight`	`not changing it now`
`22:22.09`	`ckknight`	`woot`
`22:22.10`	`ckknight`	`it works.`
`22:24.08`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2635 10AceLibrary/AceOO.lua: AceOO - added LibraryClass, a class that you will register as a library.`
`22:24.42`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2636 10AceLibrary/AceOO-LibraryClass-1.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added AceOO-LibraryClass-1.lua`
`22:25.29`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`22:27.02`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub 07tekkub * r2637 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`22:27.02`	`CIA-17`	`SpecialEventsEmbed - Added combat module (enjoy kerg, untested but should work fine....)`
`22:27.02`	`CIA-17`	`~hot dickings`
`22:27.03`	`purl`	`JUST GIVING EM OUT!`
`22:27.10`	`ckknight`	`~moredots`
`22:27.11`	`purl`	`get to the center!`
`22:27.18`	`Tekcub`	`~Dr. Tran`
`22:27.20`	`purl`	`Cowboy hat!`
`22:27.30`	`ckknight`	`~moredots`
`22:27.31`	`purl`	`dps very, very slowly - I mean f*cking slow`
`22:27.40`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`22:27.46`	`kergoth`	`Tekcub, ooh, thanks :)`
`22:27.48`	`Tekcub`	`~good idea bad idea`
`22:27.50`	`purl`	`Good idea bad idea, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry!`
`22:27.59`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, you're smart, where do I go from here?`
`22:28.01`	`Tekcub`	`hrm...`
`22:28.05`	`Tekcub`	`!gibi`
`22:28.11`	`Tekcub`	`~gibi`
`22:28.12`	`purl`	`extra, extra, read all about it, gibi is 2^30`
`22:28.22`	`ckknight`	`~tibi`
`22:28.27`	`Tekcub`	`bugger, wheere did I leave good idea bad idea?`
`22:28.30`	`ckknight`	`~tebi`
`22:28.31`	`purl`	`well, tebi is 2^40`
`22:28.40`	`ckknight`	`~pibi`
`22:28.44`	`phyber`	`~moredots`
`22:28.45`	`purl`	`50 dkp minus!`
`22:28.47`	`ckknight`	`~pebi`
`22:28.48`	`purl`	`pebi is probably 2^50`
`22:28.51`	`phyber`	`:(`
`22:28.56`	`ckknight`	`lol, phyber`
`22:28.59`	`ckknight`	`~moredots`
`22:29.00`	`purl`	`left side! even side!`
`22:29.07`	`phyber`	`i DPSed too hard`
`22:29.09`	`Tekcub`	`~ponder`
`22:29.10`	`purl`	`Wuh, I think so, tekcub, but if we didn't have ears, we'd look like weasels.`
`22:29.18`	`ckknight`	`you got hit into the damn whelp cave`
`22:29.46`	`phyber`	`~moredots`
`22:29.47`	`purl`	`hit it like you mean it!`
`22:29.53`	`Tekcub`	`~goodideabadidea`
`22:30.01`	`Tekcub`	`damnit`
`22:30.24`	`Tekcub`	`~goodidea badidea`
`22:30.29`	`Tekcub`	`fuck it`
`22:31.01`	`Tekcub`	`~Dr. Tran`
`22:31.02`	`purl`	`Here comes Dr. Tran!`
`22:32.22`	`kergoth`	`hehe, plowking categories look funny when they're empty`
`22:32.30`	`Tekcub`	`yea they do`
`22:33.09`	`phyber`	`the corner pieces smushed into a cross?`
`22:33.37`	`Tekcub`	`yup`
`22:34.38`	`Tekcub`	`heh, combat throws errors for me....`
`22:34.46`	`Tekcub`	`SECombatn`
`22:34.50`	`Tekcub`	`fixes`
`22:35.39`	`kergoth`	`http://kergoth.com/wow_007.jpg <-check out the miscellanious category. key is there too, but its off the frame`
`22:37.03`	`CIA-17`	`03tekkub 07tekkub * r2638 10SpecialEventsEmbed/Combat/SEEmbedCombat.lua: SpecialEventsEmbed - Note to self, log in before committing`
`22:38.42`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`22:43.26`	`kergoth`	`erk, how do i get out of mouse look mode?`
`22:43.30`	`kergoth`	`i just accidentally got into it`
`22:43.34`	`kergoth`	`heh`
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`22:46.39`	`ckknight`	`~literal idea`
`22:46.40`	`purl`	`"idea" is "that each program simply registers itself with the menu, (simple directory hierarchy I think), and each WM package is responsible for reading the menu hierarchy to create its internal menu."`
`22:46.47`	`kergoth`	`..`
`22:46.48`	`ckknight`	`~listkeys idea`
`22:46.53`	`kergoth`	`~forget idea`
`22:47.23`	`ckknight`	`~literal good idea bad idea`
`22:47.24`	`purl`	`Good idea bad idea, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry!`
`22:48.51`	`Jarenthal`	`~bork`
`22:49.50`	`ckknight`	`~emulate swedish chef`
`22:49.51`	`purl`	`Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork!`
`22:57.26`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2639 10AceLibrary/AceOO.lua: AceOO - added documentation to LibraryClass`
`23:01.00`	`Kyahx`	`~get idea`
`23:01.01`	`purl`	`yeah I got it`
`23:01.10`	`Kyahx`	`heh`
`23:01.10`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07ckknight * r2640 10AceLibrary/ (AceLibraryBase.lua AceLibraryClass.lua AceLocale.lua): AceLibrary - renamed AceLibraryClass to AceLibraryBase`
`23:01.43`	`CIA-17`	`03ckknight 07TestSuite * r2641 10AceLibrary/ (6 files): AceLibrary/TestSuite - updated for AceLibraryClass->AceLibraryBase`
`23:02.55`	`haste`	`what should I do, branch oUF2 or trunk it?`
`23:03.15`	`Mikma`	`what's the difference?`
`23:03.42`	`Industrial`	`branch`
`23:03.47`	`Industrial`	`any reason to keep oUF1?`
`23:03.55`	`Industrial`	`(its in the history anyway)`
`23:04.13`	`ckknight`	`branch, I say`
`23:04.35`	`Industrial`	`Im leveling my rogue twink`
`23:04.41`	`Industrial`	`dual Cruel Barb - byebye :O`
`23:04.47`	`Industrial`	`new main, hello thar!`
`23:05.11`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`23:05.20`	`ckknight`	`I don't know where to go from here`
`23:05.49`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: make a post`
`23:05.58`	`ckknight`	`where?`
`23:05.59`	`Industrial`	`I think forum collaboration on Ace2 is good`
`23:06.06`	`ckknight`	`I suppose`
`23:06.10`	`Industrial`	`:-)`
`23:06.15`	`haste`	`one other thing: keep otravi_UnitFrames (+_Player, _Party, _Target) or just commit it as oUF_Player etc :p ?`
`23:06.39`	`haste`	`(I like short names. less to write when enabling disabling)`
`23:07.40`	`Industrial`	`i dont think theres anyone prepending addon names with o so you are unique`
`23:07.47`	`Industrial`	`seen v x and g ..`
`23:07.55`	`ckknight`	`and FuBar_`
`23:07.58`	`Industrial`	`and id :E`
`23:07.58`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`23:08.02`	`haste`	`:p`
`23:08.06`	`Tekcub`	`GFW`
`23:08.19`	`Industrial`	`TitanPanel_`
`23:08.20`	`Industrial`	`:X`
`23:08.28`	`Industrial`	`EasyPriest_`
`23:08.29`	`Industrial`	`etc`
`23:08.30`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`23:09.30`	`Tekcub`	`CT`
`23:09.35`	`Tekcub`	`hides`
`23:10.26`	`haste`	`I'll compile subversion after this Scarlet run then`
`23:10.37`	`Mikma`	`and i'll be waiting`
`23:10.53`	`haste`	`It's an alt run Mikma`
`23:11.09`	`Tekcub`	`hey kerg, I got all those necessities a lv 7 druid needs... big bags, a pet or two, a wide variety of shirts, some spiffy pants, a tabbard... I need some more money so I can train skills now`
`23:11.13`	`Industrial`	`the difference being?`
`23:11.14`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`23:11.24`	`Industrial`	`Tekcub: lmao`
`23:11.29`	`haste`	`they aren't decked with epixx as usual`
`23:11.49`	`Mikma`	`haste: and your point is? ;)`
`23:12.07`	`haste`	`it will take longer and wipes are "welcome"`
`23:12.39`	`Tekcub`	`BTW, the tabard blows`
`23:12.51`	`Tekcub`	`I'm tempted to PvP just enough to get a non-shitty one`
`23:12.56`	`Industrial`	`haste: did you know linux is a multitasking operating system, and your GNU/Linux distribution allows you to download the latest version of about 80% of all software for linux and compile it in one command?`
`23:13.00`	`Industrial`	`:E`
`23:13.15`	`haste`	`Industrial, emerge -avu world !`
`23:13.17`	`Mikma`	`haste: i'll still be waiting ;)`
`23:13.21`	`Industrial`	`xD`
`23:13.36`	`haste`	`but I dislike comiling x2 while playing`
`23:14.23`	`Industrial`	`i alt tabbed to wow and i was in the air so i shit my pants thinking i was going to fall`
`23:14.30`	`Industrial`	`my shrt term memory fails`
`23:14.38`	`Industrial`	`i was on a wind rider >_>`
`23:14.47`	`Mikma`	`haste: well i _am_ waiting for you to finish the instance of course, not for you to compile it`
`23:15.02`	`Industrial`	`Mikma: lol :P`
`23:15.07`	`haste`	`I have to do obth :>`
`23:15.15`	`Industrial`	`haste: no pressure. i have all night`
`23:15.20`	`haste`	`:D`
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`23:15.34`	`Industrial`	`hi there Jarenthal !`
`23:15.36`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, should I document AceLibrary the same way AceOO is documented?`
`23:15.50`	`ckknight`	`hey Jarenthal`
`23:16.20`	`Jarenthal`	`...`
`23:16.22`	`Jarenthal`	`Hi!`
`23:16.28`	`Jarenthal`	`O.o`
`23:16.41`	`Tekcub`	`ckk, does Babble zone have koKR and zhCN locales to it?`
`23:17.05`	`Mikma`	`haste: where can i find a oUF2 screenshot?`
`23:17.25`	`haste`	`http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/`
`23:17.33`	`Mikma`	`ty bows`
`23:17.39`	`haste`	`http://www.beverpung.net/images/index.php?sort=date&path=games/wow/ << towards the bttom`
`23:17.49`	`Jarenthal`	`You know what's kind of funny?`
`23:18.02`	`haste`	`nope :o`
`23:18.09`	`Jarenthal`	`I intend to renew my WoW subscription for at least a while eventually`
`23:18.19`	`Jarenthal`	`not so much because I want to play again`
`23:18.34`	`Jarenthal`	`but so I can see the latest Ace addons.`
`23:19.33`	`haste`	`:D`
`23:20.24`	`ckknight`	`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1550.0.html`
`23:20.49`	`Gngsk`	SEEmbedKeys.lua:161: attempt to index local `self' (a nil value)
`23:21.25`	`Gngsk`	`duratek from svn seems busted`
`23:22.00`	`*** part/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no)`
`23:22.04`	`*** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no)`
`23:22.13`	`haste`	`hmm, ctrl+w works on windows :o`
`23:22.15`	`*** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl)`
`23:22.15`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ`
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`23:22.32`	`KyleFurlong`	`Question!`
`23:22.38`	`ckknight`	`Answer!`
`23:22.42`	`KyleFurlong`	`How do I get an item id?`
`23:23.37`	`KyleFurlong`	`Do I have to extract it from an item link?`
`23:24.12`	`ckknight`	`maybe`
`23:24.17`	`ckknight`	`wowwiki is your friend`
`23:24.22`	`KyleFurlong`	`yes it is`
`23:24.28`	`KyleFurlong`	`couldnt find any other way`
`23:25.02`	`tekkub`	`yes, links are the only source`
`23:26.26`	`Mikma`	`haste: zomg this is cool photo: http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_040506_203623.png`
`23:27.14`	`haste`	`hehe, that was back on broken blade ;D`
`23:28.02`	`haste`	`I should clean up my image folder(s)`
`23:28.14`	`Mikma`	`but it's not the usual "we roxxor" picture, it has some action in it, like dead people`
`23:28.46`	`haste`	`It was taken just to show of BigWigs I believe`
`23:29.20`	`Mikma`	`yeah it still has Xraid in it so i bet it's BigWigs :D`
`23:30.14`	`haste`	`notice that we use two shamans to heal all the offt-tanks :p`
`23:31.39`	`wereHamster`	`is it possible to use normal slash instead of a backslash as a dir/file delimiter?`
`23:32.49`	`haste`	`WoW only supports the Windows direction I think`
`23:33.17`	`wereHamster`	`I see this in perfectraid: "Interface/Tooltips/UI-Tooltip-Background"`
`23:34.05`	`Mikma`	`i hope nobody lives in norway`
`23:34.12`	`haste`	`I do Mikma !`
`23:34.17`	`Mikma`	`time starting from monday will propably be hell :(`
`23:34.30`	`haste`	`yeah, monday will suck hard :<`
`23:35.07`	`Mikma`	`well let's hope the strike won't last longer than 1 day`
`23:35.15`	`Mikma`	`if it does, you're completely fooked`
`23:35.27`	`haste`	`nah, already pulled some money out of the bank :p`
`23:35.42`	`Mikma`	`got robbed? :P`
`23:36.09`	`Mikma`	`police has warned people about the risk of being robbed now`
`23:36.24`	`Mikma`	`people will carry more money with them than normally`
`23:37.00`	`haste`	`I'm not going around with more then usual ;)`
`23:37.11`	`Gngsk`	`seems NanoStatsFu was causing that error, not DuraTek ><`
`23:37.13`	`Mikma`	`then you're the smarter one`
`23:38.39`	`Mikma`	`anyone knows where in .mpq can i find a staircases?`
`23:38.55`	`Mikma`	`(i don't have any wowmodel-programs on mac)`
`23:43.52`	`KyleFurlong`	`Is there a function I can add to my addon class that will be called by Ace at exit?`
`23:44.02`	`Industrial`	`http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/chinese.png`
`23:44.03`	`Industrial`	`lmao`
`23:44.05`	`Industrial`	`so going to use that`
`23:47.54`	`Mikma`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:48.02`	`Mikma`	`would be cool`

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