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00:00.02KyahxI'll try adding it
00:00.03ckknightno
00:00.05ckknightonly with :
00:00.41Thianatrunk/Ace/AceDB.lua:function AceDatabase:get(...) -- So it requires a 'self' reference Kyahx. self:get(...) would be the same as self.get(self, ...)
00:00.57ckknightright.
00:00.58ThianaIs Self an ace db though?
00:01.02ckknightno.
00:01.06Kyahxwhat if I just replaced "self.get" with "self:get" in my entier file
00:01.06ckknightself is a lua deal
00:01.09clad|gymwait.
00:01.19clad|gymckknight: the embed logic is broken
00:01.23ThianaI mean 'self' in the function he/she is working on ck
00:01.25ckknightclad|gym, oh?
00:01.25clad|gymcause its AceHook instead of self
00:01.28clad|gymwhich may have been an issue on my end.
00:01.33clad|gymbut either wya, i've fixed it.
00:01.38ckknightwhat was the issue?
00:01.53ckknightfor the other libs, I just changed LibActivate to LibCreate
00:01.54ckknightthat's it
00:02.19clad|gymyeah.. thats all you would have needed.
00:02.27clad|gymit calls AceHook:embed() and embedList
00:02.35clad|gymthey need to be self:embed() and self.embedList
00:02.52ckknightwhat are we talking about?
00:03.11clad|gymwhat i said.. an issue with the embed logic in your copy of acehook
00:03.15ckknightokay
00:03.20ckknightI didn't hack on it
00:03.24ckknightI stole from Unstable
00:03.30clad|gym370 and 371
00:03.32clad|gymi know you didn't
00:03.35clad|gymjust telling you its broken atm =)
00:03.38ckknightokay
00:05.02CIA-1703ckknight 07ckknight * r2521 10AceLibrary/AceHook.lua: AceLibrary/AceHook - fixed something or other
00:05.18*** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=kcummins@adsl-71-147-10-6.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
00:06.19clad|gymhaha
00:06.23clad|gymi could have fixed it
00:06.25clad|gymjust not wokring in that branch
00:06.29clad|gymcLique is getting some major loving.
00:06.35WobinKyahx: That would work
00:06.43*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ
00:06.52ckknighthey Kaelten
00:06.55ckknighthow's things?
00:06.58WobinThiana: self is whatever object is calling the function
00:07.21CIA-1703cladhaire 07Unstable * r2522 10Clique/Clique/ (6 files):
00:07.21CIA-17Clique:
00:07.21CIA-17* Added AceHook 2.0
00:07.21CIA-17* Removed CliqueHelpFrame
00:07.21CIA-17* Changed internal hooks to AceHook
00:07.40ThianaYou're misunderstanding my question. Rephrased: Is 'self' an instance of AceDatabase.
00:07.46Kaeltenthings are goin
00:07.52KyahxWobin: in my Instilizaion function, I did this:
00:07.54Kyahx<PROTECTED>
00:07.55Kyahx<PROTECTED>
00:08.08ckknightthen use self.get, not self:get
00:08.22Wobinah
00:08.24ckknightit's icky in my opinion, but that's just AceDB
00:08.26KyahxI am, but its givine me an error whenever it tries to send a chat message
00:08.37ThianaWhat error?
00:08.39WobinThat's just another function call overhead =)
00:09.22WobinThiana in Kyahx's case?
00:09.23CIA-1703ratbert * r2523 10BagBoy/ (BagBoy.lua BagBoyGlobals.lua):
00:09.23CIA-17BagBoy: A protected item will now trigger a confirm dialog to sell.
00:09.23CIA-17Added rules functionality! Still need to make it easier to use...
00:09.41ThianaYes Wobin
00:09.48KyahxIm in the middle of a raid, I'll copy and paste the error next time someone dies :P
00:09.49Wobinin Kyahx's case, self is the SmartRes object
00:10.04Wobinself.db is the AceDB instance
00:10.23WobinWoohoo!
00:11.07Kyahx=)
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00:16.08CIA-1703wobin * r2524 10FreezeFrameLib/Lib/FreezeFrameLib.lua: FreezeFrameLib - Streamlined the storage and retrieval.
00:18.34CIA-1703wobin * r2525 10ReverseEngineering/ (ReverseEngineering.lua ReverseEngineering.toc): ReverseEngineering - Fixed a freezeframe issue
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00:28.22CIA-1703wobin * r2526 10MrPlow/ (MrPlow.lua MrPlow.toc):
00:28.22CIA-17MrPlow - Removed debug statement
00:28.22CIA-17- Reordered option help listing to be more logical. Forn users will have to get by without that reorganisation =P
00:30.48Kyahxyou think its just getting confused that I use "self.get" to retrieve data, what if I used "data.get" instead
00:30.51Kyahx=/
00:38.17[Wobin]sorry, I missed the error, could you repost?
00:38.32KyahxSmartRes.lua:26: bad argument #1 to `format' (string expected, got nil)
00:39.06Kyahx26:          SendChatMessage(string.format(DataGet(ResMessage), "Test"), DataGet(ChannelType))
00:39.08WobinYou should be checking if the string exists in the savedvar first though, really
00:39.35KyahxI know it exists thou =/
00:40.37ThianaDataGet?
00:40.59KyahxI changed my function
00:41.08KyahxI thought the self was throwing it off
00:41.17Kyahxbut its obviously not the problem
00:41.27WobinYou're creating another global reference that way =)
00:41.28ThianaSo DataGet is defined where? In your init function?
00:41.35Kyahxyea
00:41.47KyahxDataGet = function(var) return self.db:get(self.profilePath,var) end
00:42.00WobinThat's not going to work =(
00:42.05WobinSince it doesn't know what self is
00:42.44ThianaDo SmartRes.db:get(SmartRes.profilePath, var) if you want to define it that way.
00:42.53kergothWobin: ?
00:43.02WobinAm I lost?
00:43.18kergothself is a local in his init function, so the 'self' variable in the function defined there works fine
00:43.21kergothread up on closures
00:43.26Wobink
00:43.30Kyahxmy question is thou...
00:43.37Kyahxwhy does it work every else?
00:43.39kergothfunctions can access locals that exist in the scope they were defined in, essentially
00:43.46Kyahxfor pulling up data *everywhere* other than in a string.format
00:43.57ThianaIf it works everywhere else, then 'ResMessage' must not  be valid.
00:45.03Kyahx=(  I hate dealing with data
00:45.48Wobinif you use Iriel's devtools, you can just /dump the SmartResDB and see if the structure is right...
00:46.50Kyahxeh, can't load that in the middle of Razergore =P
00:47.07WobinProlly not =)
00:47.24Kyahxwell, if I look into my saved variables, would that work?
00:47.29Wobinyeah
00:47.46Kyahxbecuase ResMessage is defined in the defauls as "Ressing: %s" and my savad variables says the same =/
00:48.29Wobinhm
00:48.36WobinDataGet(ResMessage)
00:48.42WobinShouldn't that be DataGet("ResMessage")
00:48.47Wobin?
00:49.12Kyahxmaybe
00:49.37Wobinunless you have a variable called ResMessage with the savedvariable name in it
00:49.55Kyahxomfg
00:49.59Kyahx>.<
00:50.11KyahxThats the problem, lol.  Its gotta be in quotes =/
00:50.38Wobin=)
00:50.39kergothmethinks someone needs to read PIL
00:50.41kergoth:P
00:51.14WobinPS someone needs to change the 'were' in the topic to 'where' =P
00:53.05KyahxYea, I probley should :P
00:53.22KyahxI appologize for my noobiness ^.^
00:53.41kergothbeing a noob isnt anything to apologize for.  failing to rtfm is :)
00:53.54kergothpurl: boo
00:53.55purlkergoth, for heven's sake, don't do that!
00:54.49Wobinheheh
00:54.58Wobin~literal boo
00:54.59purl"boo" is "<reply> $who, for heven's sake, don't do that!"
00:55.12kergothit really loses the effect with the typo :P
00:55.16kergoth~emulate kergoth
00:55.17purlACTION hmms.
00:55.31Wobinpurl no, boo is <reply> $who, for heaven's sake, don't do that!
00:55.32purlWobin: okay
00:55.38cladhairewould you want your click-casting list sorted by SpellName, or Button Mixture?
00:55.44Wobinpurl: boo
00:55.45purlwobin, for heaven's sake, don't do that!
00:55.57Wobin...
00:56.01Wobinbutton mixture?
00:56.01kergoth~emulate kergoth
00:56.02purlACTION hmms.
00:56.04kergothbah
00:56.50Wobincladhaire: What do you mean by Button Mixture?
01:04.07TainSpell casting via Kitchenaid?
01:06.52WobinBlend
01:06.54WobinPulse
01:09.45CIA-1703kyahx * r2527 10SmartRes/ (Bindings.xml SmartRes.lua SmartRes.toc SmartResLocals.lua): SmartRes: Now configurable! You can customize the message, channel, and custom chat channel spam via slash commands. (Also added svn:keywords)
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01:30.44Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/exploration1.jpg
01:30.54CIA-1703thiana * r2528 10BabbleLib/Spell/BabbleLib-Spell.lua:
01:30.54CIA-17BabbleLib-Spell:
01:30.54CIA-17* Fixed tables (missing commas from the sort)
01:30.58ckknightback
01:31.29Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/exploration2.jpg
01:33.39ckknightpurl no, boo is <reply> for heaven's sake, $who, don't do that!
01:33.42purlckknight: okay
01:35.19Mikma~boo purl
01:35.21purlBoo! Hiss! purl is pure filth! Boo!
01:36.36ckknight~boo
01:36.37purlfor heaven's sake, ckknight, don't do that!
01:37.36Kyahxwait, purl is a robot
01:37.39KyahxI just realized this
01:38.00ckknightyes.
01:38.04ckknightyes it is
01:38.07Kyahxinteresting
01:38.15ckknightlol
01:38.20ckknight~whaleslap Kyahx
01:38.21purlACTION beats Kyahx upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
01:38.21Kyahx~boo!
01:38.22purlfor heaven's sake, kyahx, don't do that!
01:38.31Kyahxhaha
01:38.35Kyahxamazueing
01:38.42Kyahxamuseing*?
01:38.45Kyahxhmmm
01:38.48ckknight~emulate cookie monster
01:38.49purl"C" is for cookie, that's good enough for me. Oh....cookie,cookie,cookie starts with "C".
01:38.59kergoth~herring Kyahx
01:39.00purlACTION whacks Kyahx on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred
01:39.08Kyahx:'(
01:39.21kergoth~remulate
01:39.23purlWords. Nothing but sweet, sweet words that turn into bitter orange wax in my ears.
01:40.25ckknightKyahx, you gotta learn the commands to defend yourself
01:40.39ckknightkergoth, I challenge you to whale dueling!
01:40.43Kyahxheh
01:40.48kergoth~whaleblock kergoth
01:40.50purlACTION shields kergoth with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag
01:40.54ckknight~whaleparry kergoth
01:40.55purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry kergoth's attacks.
01:40.55kergoth~whaleslap ckknight
01:40.57purlACTION beats ckknight upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
01:41.08kergothdamn, evaded
01:41.17ckknightmwahaha
01:41.32ckknight~chippersnack kergoth
01:41.34purlACTION feeds kergoth some nuts.
01:41.54kergothhehe, reminds me of over the hedge
01:42.00kergothi love the manic squirrel in that
01:42.07ckknighthaven't seen it yet
01:42.15ckknightit's obviously a pro-immigrant film
01:42.24ckknightto teach people how to run across the border
01:42.33ckknightthe "Hedge" if you will
01:42.42kergothbeen watching colbert report, i take it
01:42.43kergoth:)
01:43.09ckknighthehe
01:44.05ckknightgood show
01:45.25*** join/#wowace Vanish (n=vanish@12-216-132-66.client.mchsi.com)
01:45.38ckknighthey Van
01:45.42ckknightVanish*
01:45.46VanishHiya CK.
01:46.04VanishStupid cable company dropping my service for no good reason...
01:46.10ckknighthrm
01:47.42ckknightah
01:47.46Wobineu forums down?
01:48.10ckknightokay, now that I've hacked on AceLibrary to the extreme, what can I work on now?
01:48.18VanishSay, Wobin, is PlowKing stable enough to install and test?
01:48.29WobinOh sure
01:48.34WobinIt won't eat your inventory or anything
01:48.35Vanishck: a good Ace Buff Frame mod, like Gypsy_BuffBars
01:48.57VanishWobin: any caveats before I run it?
01:49.04Wobinhm
01:49.10WobinCaveat Emptor?
01:49.24WobinIt's not fully functional... um..
01:49.34VanishLOL I figured that. ;)
01:49.56WobinI'm working on putting in PeriodicTable categorisation
01:50.05VanishAhhh, cool
01:50.10Wobincurrently only equiploc category splitting in place
01:50.38Wobinonce I get PT in, then I'll have to figure out item specific sorting and tooltip scanning
01:50.51Tekkubckk: Dewdrop text boxes!
01:51.21VanishI was watching InvSort hoping someone would give me an Ace replaceent for EngInventory. It died, so now I'm hoping PlowKing gets me there. :D
01:51.50Tekkubit's not dead, it works, just needs optomized
01:52.11VanishWell, I mean dead as in doesn't appear to be under development anymore. abandoned
01:52.25Tekkubit's appeared that way since day one
01:52.34Wobinhehe Hollow Project
01:52.44VanishHehe, yeah but I was hopeful for a couple months...
01:53.00TekkubI use InvSort with my PT filters
01:53.13Tekkubonly issue is it's too proc intensive on updates
01:53.47VanishHmm... where are your PT filters?
01:53.56TekkubInvSortTek
01:54.12VanishOh, is THAT waht that is?
01:54.19Tekkubyes
01:54.36VanishI wish everything in the trunk had an entry in the wiki explaining wtf it is...
01:54.56TekkubI try to explain what it is in the import's comments
01:55.20Tekkuband I am working on wiki pages, bit by bit
01:55.49VanishHow about screensots? (/me waits for Tek to explode)
01:56.01Tekkubmeh, too much effort
01:56.21Tekkubif you're unwilling to download and try it, I don't care if you ever use it :P
01:56.36VanishHehe
01:56.55Tekkubbesides, I'm conding for me and sharing, I could care less if I attract more users, they always want shit
01:56.57Wobinespecially with Industrial's whinings =P
01:57.11VanishTHe only time I like screensots is when a mod is very similar in function to another, so it comes down to aesthetics
01:57.21WobinIf the description isn't enough, then a screenshot won't help =P
01:58.35Tekkubexactly
01:58.53Tekkubalso considering the minimality of GUI content...
01:59.38VanishWell, I AM discussing screnshots with the two most non-gui authors in wow mod-dom... ;)
02:00.02Tekkub*points at whole channel*
02:00.19ckknightI kinda work with guis
02:00.25VanishLOL! Nah, ck does a lot of GUI stuffs. So does Kaeltan
02:00.36ckknightactually most of my stuff is non-gui
02:00.40VanishAnd phyber, etc.
02:00.55TekkubKael hate GUIS too
02:01.03VanishYeah, but FuBar is esecially GUI, ck. ;D
02:01.09ckknightI know
02:01.09Tekkubckk's GUIs are Fubar and tablet/dew which were for fu
02:01.11ckknightbut FuBar is small
02:01.27ckknightand FuBarPlugin-1.2 and 1.0
02:01.29ckknightthat's it
02:01.33VanishYet it's what yo're best known for. (outside of modders)
02:01.33ckknightbut I have tons of other mods
02:01.43ckknightmostly libs
02:02.03Tekkubyea noone knows us for libs tho
02:02.21Tekkubhonestly outside the Ace crew noone uses our libs I'm sure
02:02.30ckknightdicks
02:02.32Tekkubthey probably think of em like we do of Sea
02:02.37VanishLOL
02:02.40ckknightgrr.
02:02.42ckknightdamn Sea
02:02.55VanishSea was a good idea.. sorta.. ;)
02:03.00TekkubSea just ruined libraries from the start didn't it
02:03.04ckknightsorta kinda maybe no
02:03.08Tekkubat least now we can hide them from the users
02:03.11Tekkubstupid users
02:03.17ckknightusers with diseases
02:03.28TekkubI wonder how many "Ace haters" are gonna end up using Ace2 mods :)
02:03.33ckknighthehe
02:03.37ckknightI don't get Ace haters
02:03.51Tekkubthey see dependancy and instantly think it's bad
02:04.11VanishI wonder why there are any Ace Haters. Seriously. I've been championing Ace from the start. It just wrks with little overhead.
02:04.12ckknightI know I used to be like that
02:04.28ckknightdependencies are a pain
02:04.46AmadeoSomeone told me once, "I don't like Ace, I tried a few addons and they were too buggy"
02:04.50VanishNot when they're community backed like Ace is, ck
02:05.29VanishAmadeo: that's true of any mod...
02:06.43VanishI wish phyber were around
02:06.48ckknightAPI time.
02:06.55ckknightnew arguments for dewdrop
02:07.08Vanishck: are you bored? ;)
02:07.09ckknighthasEditBox - boolean
02:07.20ckknightVanish, yes and no
02:07.41ckknighteditBoxValue - string - this is the initial value
02:07.59ckknighteditBoxFunc - function - this is called when enter is pressed
02:08.13ckknightit's function(string)
02:09.19ckknightI also won't have it be very wide
02:09.28ckknightlike 40-50 chars at most
02:10.06ckknightoh, and editBoxTitle, I guess
02:10.46ckknightgah
02:10.50ckknightmy jeans are tight
02:10.52ckknightdammit
02:11.43Wobin...
02:11.45Wobincrimped?
02:12.45ckknightI need baggier jeans
02:12.52ckknightI don't have enough room in these
02:16.01WobinBah
02:16.10WobinArgent Dawn is down =(
02:16.11Wobinkinda
02:16.23Wobinin that I can't get past the 'retrieving characterlist' dialog
02:18.14KyahxoRA needs a FuBar plugin with all the options in a nice menu
02:18.16Kyahxhmmm
02:18.30Wobinyeah
02:18.35WobinWell volunteered! =)
02:18.44Kyahx>.<
02:19.29ckknightit'd be really easy
02:19.32ckknighthonestly
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02:19.42Kyahxuseing DewDrop I assume
02:19.44ckknightyea
02:19.48ckknightthat's about it
02:19.53ckknightjust make a dewdrop menu
02:19.57ckknightprovide an icon
02:20.00Kyahxand the new editbox functions =P
02:20.00ckknightdon't even have any text
02:20.18Kyahxhmmm, how hard would it be to make a minimap button then?
02:20.32WobinIt can be done automatically, no?
02:20.35Wobinwith the new fubar
02:20.50ThraeWhat's everyone's editor of choice?
02:20.55KyahxNotepad++
02:20.59WobinVim
02:21.02WobinGVim
02:21.28Kyahx"I dont use an editor, I read the binary code on my HD and write with a lazer and a steady hand!"
02:21.39WobinBah
02:21.52WobinThat should be "And write with a stereo magnet and a steady hand" =P
02:21.57ckknightNotepad2
02:22.11KyahxBack to Vael
02:22.22Wobinsounds like you're having fun =P
02:22.32Kyahx2k latency is never fun =P
02:22.43KyahxI did however get my tier2 bracers
02:22.48Kyahxfirst 3 piece bonus ^.^
02:23.04CodayusKyahx: What class?
02:23.13ThraeDo Notepad++ or Notepad2 have Lua syntax highlighting?
02:23.22ckknightNotepad2, no
02:24.00ThraeI've been using gvim, it's nice, but I'm getting frustrated trying to make it mouse-oriented.
02:24.09KyahxPriest =)
02:24.20WobinMy only mouseissue with gvim is selecting more than one page
02:24.38ThraeWobin: Are you on Linux or Windows?
02:24.40KyahxThrae: Yes, Notepad++ has lua highlighting
02:24.43WobinWindows
02:25.07ThraeWobin: I fixed that by turning off Windows mode in the default _vimrc.
02:25.21Vanishsidenote, ck: did you know (well, on my system anyway) that all FuBar modules throw a myAddons error on load?
02:25.24Wobinhm... intuitive =P
02:25.44ThraeWobin: Changed it from mswim to xterm.
02:25.50Thrae*mswin
02:25.59Wobinhokay, I'll give that a go =) Ta
02:26.21ckknightVanish, no, but I don't _really_ care
02:26.34Vanish:p
02:26.51ckknightwhat's the point of MyAddons?
02:27.07KyahxMyAddons sucks
02:27.30VanishTHe only thing left that it does now (really) is provide an options button for a few mods. Oterwise, no much really
02:27.33ThraeThe original point of MyAddons was for compliation suites, where you may not know exactly what you have installed.
02:27.56KyahxIts a good concept, don't get me wrong.
02:28.48VanishI found it useful when mod authors would provide a mod with NO information, so rotting out the slash commands was a pain. If they added myAddons support, you could get to it's feaures there. That's maybe 3 mods these days
02:29.06ThraeHmmm, Cream looks interesting as a more powerful GUI for VIM.
02:29.20Wobinshboogie and rock?
02:29.38Wobin(get on top....)
02:30.20KyahxI *love* Selection Ring
02:30.30Kyahxit seemed gimicky at first, but now I love it
02:30.49ThraeOooo, I like Cream already.
02:31.33Wobinlink?
02:31.54Thraehttp://www.google.com/q?=cream+vim
02:32.08Thrae!google cream vim
02:32.12Thrae~google cream vim
02:32.19ThraeNo google bot on purl.
02:32.51ckknightbad
02:33.06ThraeWhat's bad? Google bots?
02:33.15ckknightpurl, google $1 is <reply>http://www.google.com/q?=$1
02:33.30ckknightboo.
02:33.33ckknight~boo
02:33.35purlfor heaven's sake, ckknight, don't do that!
02:34.16Wobinarg
02:34.19Wobinh
02:34.26Wobingoogle is being finicky again
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02:35.25Wobinooh
02:35.27Wobinshiny
02:35.37Kyahx~google cream vim
02:35.47Kyahxthat didnt seem to work =P
02:36.36Wobin~literal google
02:36.37purl"google" is "a search engine found at http://www.google.com/"
02:36.50Wobin~literal google $1
02:38.14Kyahx~whaleslap Wobin
02:38.16purlACTION beats Wobin upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
02:38.19Kyahx=)
02:41.36CIA-1703cladhaire 07Unstable * r2529 10Clique/Clique/ (Clique.lua Clique.xml):
02:41.36CIA-17Clique:
02:41.36CIA-17* Extended the width of the edit frame, made some adjustments I'm not 100% happy with
02:41.36CIA-17* Moved the functions inside the Clique table.
02:41.36CIA-17* Click-capturing works for spellbook.
02:41.36CIA-17* Editing works, but it kinda hacky at the moment, since you can edit spells.
02:41.37VanishHmm.. InvSort has a GUI gltich for me. Overlapping icons. :/
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02:45.00Tekkubhey cald
02:45.06Tekkubweb SVN's down again ^^
02:45.45ThraePoor Web SVN. How much traffic does it get per month? Maybe I could mirror it.
02:50.15CodayusHmm
02:50.29CodayusI think it's more the CPU than the bandwidth.
02:53.36ThraeTekkub: Hmm, you know when you have a function that can take like 10 arguments and some are optional and some aren't? I was mulling around, trying to figure out the best way to deal with it. Would using function(...) and args really be that much of a sin when the function is only suppose to be called once per UI load?
02:54.01Tekkubone? nah
02:54.11Tekkubit's frequent that's a problem
02:54.20cladhaireit has nothing to do with CPU
02:54.22cladhaireits a core dump this time.
02:54.29cladhairei dont have a chance immediately to recompile SWIG bindings
02:54.37cladhaireand i'm asking the host to add SVN::Web to their perl distribution.
02:54.49ThraeAww, you don't own the box completely?
02:55.02cladhaireNo
02:55.10cladhaireand there's really no need to
02:55.14cladhairepaying that much is excessive for Ace
02:56.09ThraeI could let you use my box, if you don't mind being restricted to 128KB/s ;)
02:56.17cladhaireI have unlim bandwidth =)
02:56.21KyahxBlizzard: Fix your servers
02:56.22cladhaireand the band is pretty wide =)
02:56.23Kyahx='(
02:56.31KyahxNo deal dargons, thanks to lag
02:56.33ThraeBlazing fast 8mbit/s uploads though!
02:56.35Kyahxdead*
02:57.03CIA-1703cladhaire 07Unstable * r2530 10Clique/Clique/ (Clique.lua Clique.xml):
02:57.03CIA-17Clique:
02:57.03CIA-17* Moved the Max Rank button to the ListFrame
02:57.03CIA-17* Calling ValidateButtons in Toggle() so the button states alook right
02:57.03CIA-17* Selecting a ranked spell, and clicking "Max" will string.gsub() it.
02:58.10ThraeIs there a way to override the built-in function(...) --> generate args table functionality such that it uses a pre-made table?
02:59.26ThraeBut really, I don't think it'll be THAT much of an issue with maybe a max of 30 calls per UI load.
03:00.24CIA-1703cladhaire 07Unstable * r2531 10Clique/Clique/Clique.lua: Clique: Fixed an issue where users could use the edit frame to bind two actions to the same binding.
03:01.13VanishTek: does the Unsorted icon get placed under he active category icon for you with InvSort?
03:03.13CIA-1703cladhaire 07Unstable * r2532 10Clique/Clique/Clique.toc: Clique: Added unused SavedVariable
03:09.09WobinA ZF group with a shadow priest and a druid, are asking for a healer
03:09.17VanishHehe
03:09.39VanishThe druid is the MT and the Shadow Priest is teh DPS... ;)
03:09.46cladhairefeel free to pull Clique down.. the config UI works.. and I'd like you to try and break it =)
03:09.54cladhairejust open your spellbook, and you have a new icon
03:09.56Wobinoh, they already have a tank =P
03:11.47CodayusWobin: Hmm, that doesn't sound too good.
03:11.59VanishWe had some idiot earlier kite an Onyxia NPC form the blasted lands all the way to Stormwind Keep and it crashed the server
03:12.20CodayusNothing wrong with druid tanks.  Nothing wrong with shadow priest DPS.  But in ZF? Weird.
03:12.44CodayusWait, the druid ISN'T the tank?  Please tell me he's not an oomkin...please?
03:13.45WobinGod knows =P
03:14.22KyahxPEW PEW PEW
03:14.36Codayus(Did a strat dead run last night that about as smooth as I've seen.  Druid tank.  <shrug>  Held aggro fine, tanked baron with zero problems (and that was with an insane crit happy fire mage along).
03:14.37Wobinbababababaa MOONFIRE
03:14.54Wobinoh yeah nerf druids =)
03:15.33WobinIt just confused me that a party with a tank, druid and priest were asking for a healer =P
03:15.44CodayusYeah.
03:17.05Kyahx~boo!
03:17.06purlfor heaven's sake, kyahx, don't do that!
03:17.10KyahxI love that
03:17.16CodayusYou can heal ZF 100% fine as a shadow priest (been there...done that).  I find it...unlikely that you could DPS in ZF as onethough.
03:18.07Wobinoh aye, as a priest, I -know- there's no issue with healing as a shadow build =)
03:18.10CodayusKyahx: Grats on the 3 piece bonus by the way.  Went AFK before you answered my question.  Trans 3-piece is godly.
03:18.19WobinI only switched endgame for the shorter casting times
03:18.47WobinHehe I can only wish for trans =)
03:19.52CodayusHmm, trans.  Well....  1/8 isn't bad, right?  :-)
03:21.13CodayusI'm a fair ways off too.  We haven't even attempted Razorgore yet.
03:28.41Kyahxawww
03:28.52KyahxVael is the true cockblock in BWL
03:29.10Kyahxits an amazeing fun fight when there is no lag
03:29.20Kyahxfrustrateing as hell / impossible with even the slightest bit of lag =/
03:43.26CodayusHeh
03:43.48CodayusMy guild killed rag for the first time last week.  BWL is...hmm...on the horizon.
03:58.01KyahxYou'll get there =)
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04:25.43CIA-1703kyahx * r2534 10oRA_Resurrection/oRA_Resurrection.lua: oRA_Resurrection: Fixed a bug that happened upon leaveing a raid while the res frame was hidden.
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04:49.02ckknight_purl, moreDots is <reply>hit it like you mean it!
04:49.10purlckknight_: okay
04:49.13ckknight_~moredots
04:49.15purlhit it like you mean it!
05:05.00Wobinhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060608/ap_on_re_as/nepal_everest_rescue_3
05:05.02Wobin...
05:05.18WobinHow could you leave people to die,just so you can climb Everest?
05:05.23WobinThat's really sad.
05:05.42WobinHall's rescue came just days after David Sharp, 34, died May 15, about 1,000 feet into his descent from the summit. Dozens of people walked right past him, unwilling to risk their own ascents.
05:06.09WobinI hope they have trouble sleeping at night =(
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06:06.31CIA-1703maia * r2535 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: removed another roster check.
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06:26.33MoonWolfQ: What's geekier than playing board games with friends?
06:26.35MoonWolfA: Playing Dungeons & Dragons with friend.
06:26.35MoonWolfQ: What's geekier than playing Dungeons & Dragons with friends?
06:26.35MoonWolfA: Playing Dungeons & Dragons with strangers.
06:26.35MoonWolfQ: What's geekier than playing Dungeons & Dragons with strangers?
06:26.35MoonWolfA: Playing Dungeons & Dragons with strangers, online.
06:26.36MoonWolfQ: What's geekier than playing Dungeons & Dragons with strangers, online?
06:26.38MoonWolfA: Playing Dungeons & Dragons alone, online.
06:27.32CIA-1703ckknight 07ckknight * r2536 10AceLibrary/ (5 files):
06:27.32CIA-17AceLibrary - removed GetLibraryVersion requirement.
06:27.32CIA-17removed LibCreate and LibDestroy
06:27.32CIA-17changed Register(lib) to Register(lib, "major", minor [, createFunc] [, destroyFunc])
06:27.33ckknighthehe
06:28.02ckknightboard games are fun
06:28.08ckknightmonopoly is so pimp
06:28.52CIA-1703ckknight 07TestSuite * r2537 10AceLibrary/ (7 files): AceLibrary/TestSuite - changed unit tests to reflect API changes
06:28.57MoonWolfmonopoly is 80% luck
06:29.00ckknightyea
06:29.01MoonWolftherefor i dont like it.
06:29.06ckknightyou know what's an _awesome_ game?
06:29.08ckknightCashflow
06:29.16hasteboard games are usually luck :p
06:29.20MoonWolfNever eard of it.
06:29.23MoonWolfheard*
06:29.30ckknightRich Dad/Poor Dad thing.
06:29.33ckknighteconomics game
06:30.47ckknightokay, AceLibrary has once again been hacked into
06:30.49ckknight;-)
06:31.22MoonWolfYou are changing the changes now aren' t you ?
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06:31.51ckknightyes
06:32.02ckknightnow the API is cleaner
06:32.07ckknightmust clean...
06:32.23ckknighttaken 50 showers, still feel dirty
06:32.46ckknightthe upside now is that AceLibrary no longer exports GetLibraryVersion or LibCreate
06:33.02ckknightall it has is: Register, IsNewVersion, HasInstance, and GetInstance
06:33.03ckknightthat's it
06:33.04ckknightno more
06:34.04MoonWolfwhy did you cut those two out /
06:34.07MoonWolf?*
06:35.24ckknightbecause they were unclean
06:35.36ckknightoh, you missed the discussion in #ace2.0
06:36.06MoonWolfthere is a #ace2.0 ?
06:36.14ckknightyea, it was to cut down on noise
06:36.18ckknightsuch as Tekkub's sexual issues
06:36.37MoonWolflol
06:36.54ckknightonly ace2 discussion happens there, all extra cruft spills over to this channel
06:37.06ckknighteither way, the reason is privacy issues
06:37.09ckknightfor example
06:37.12ckknightyou know python?
06:37.19MoonWolfvery small amounts
06:37.21ckknightokay
06:37.23ckknightgood enough
06:37.24MoonWolfim more of a perl person.
06:37.35ckknight__init__ is the initialize method
06:37.49ckknightnow what do you think would happen if someone was able to call __init__ twice on a single object?
06:38.08ckknightpossible massive death, a.k.a. contract failure
06:38.12MoonWolfdepending on the code, the whole object could get reset or it could break down.
06:38.15MoonWolfor other bad stuff.
06:38.28ckknightsame with __del__ (which gets rid of an object
06:38.30ckknight)
06:38.35ckknightright
06:38.44ckknightthat's why you shouldn't export LibCreate and LibDestroy
06:39.02MoonWolfmakes sense.
06:39.07ckknightand GetLibraryVersion is really pointless, why not pass the versions at Register?
06:39.17ckknightand tada *snaps fingers*
06:39.23ckknightgot rid of those
06:39.39MoonWolfkeep up the good work.
06:40.09ckknightyep
06:44.47Elkano\o/ I passed the data network examn :)
06:45.38hasteI'm going to check what kind of oral I might get on monday now :o
06:46.02MoonWolfyou english people really need a better word for that
06:46.09Elkanoso, next one is 'introduction to computational logic' tomorrow :/ but that's the last midterm :)
06:46.12hasteI'm not english!
06:46.12MoonWolfyou can't make it NOT sound dirty.
06:46.26hasteIt's "Muntlig" in norwegian, the sex word is still "oral" here ;D
06:46.42MoonWolfenglish people in general then.
06:47.00hastebut I'm leaving name, be back in 15 I guess
06:48.09ckknightI was just thinking sex.
06:48.17Elkano"How did your oral examn go?" "The prof said it was satisfying..."
06:51.47ckknightI think I'm making good progress on AceLibrary
06:52.16ckknightI am currently satisfied
06:53.38MoonWolfthat can never last long.
06:57.23ckknightI know
06:57.31ckknightbut I wasn't satisfied before
06:57.33ckknightnow I am
06:57.36ckknighta little
06:57.45ckknightactually, I'll be changing some stuff
06:57.48ckknighton the backend
06:57.57ckknightbecause of my odd distrust for people
06:57.58ckknight;-)
06:58.13kergothargument checking and sanity checking ftw
06:58.16kergoth:P
06:58.41MoonWolfwhat do you mean i cant pass a int in a string field
06:59.12ckknighthrm?
06:59.33MoonWolfnevermind
06:59.38MoonWolfits my humour again.
06:59.44ckknightah
06:59.45ckknightokay
07:18.35hasteyay, no orals for monday ;D
07:20.23ckknightI wish I was getting some oral
07:37.26kergothwho doesnt?
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07:38.00MoonWolfhard to think of someone who doesnt want oral
07:47.35ckknightactually, I don't
07:47.37ckknightnot really into it
07:48.00ckknightwhich really translates to: no one has been good at it for me
07:48.11ckknightwhich means we need proper schooling for this thing
07:48.29MoonWolflets make sex ed, sex ed again.
07:48.36sedatedChipmunkoh lord
07:48.54MoonWolfYou called ?
07:49.09sedatedChipmunkyea, you're slackin' on the miracles lately
07:49.16MoonWolfyeah
07:49.37MoonWolfpray more
07:49.50MoonWolfim oom
07:49.54sedatedChipmunkkk
07:49.58ckknightlol.
07:53.50MoonWolfhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5020-PlayOn_ManHunt.html
07:53.54MoonWolfthis is great
07:53.58MoonWolf<PROTECTED>
07:54.00MoonWolfages*
07:55.14sedatedChipmunkTrackInfo, TrackHelper, ICU...
07:56.23sedatedChipmunkI use a version of ICU that I've modified quite heavily, myself
07:57.03MoonWolfa link if you can ?
07:57.11sedatedChipmunkto mine, or the original
07:57.19MoonWolfyours
07:57.40sedatedChipmunksec, I'll zip it up
07:58.06sedatedChipmunkI don't remember exactly what I changed, though; I did it like 6 months ago
07:58.27Makk~oook.
07:58.42Makkwtf is Bizzard_RaidUI and why is it taking 6mb of mem?
07:59.00hasteit defines around 120 frames
07:59.05sedatedChipmunkdownload MiniBlizzRaid and it won't anymore
07:59.11CIA-1703ckknight * r2538 10DewdropLib/ (API.html Lib/DewdropLib.lua):
07:59.12CIA-17DewdropLib - added edit box capabilities.
07:59.12CIA-17API Change:
07:59.12CIA-17added arguments hasEditBox, editBoxText, editBoxFunc, editBoxChangeFunc
07:59.17ckknightTekkub,
07:59.23MakkI use Perfectraid for frames...
07:59.28sedatedChipmunkright
07:59.29MoonWolfMakk, its the default blizzard raid interface
07:59.29Makkgmpgh
07:59.36Makkah, the one noone uses? :P
07:59.37sedatedChipmunkwhich is why you use MiniBlizzRaid
07:59.40MoonWolfthen you dont need it, grab miniblizzraid
07:59.42sedatedChipmunkyes, that one
08:00.01sedatedChipmunkhttp://69.14.77.214/hc-ICU.zip
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08:00.07MakkI guess it's on the SVN?
08:00.08sedatedChipmunk^-----Moon
08:00.10sedatedChipmunkit is
08:00.23ckknightye
08:00.24ckknightyea*
08:00.26ckknightit's ugly
08:00.29ckknightno doubt about that
08:00.35haste:p
08:00.36ckknightso I need input on how to make it prettier
08:00.44hasteabuse the oRA design! ;D
08:00.45MoonWolfThe requested URL /hc-ICU.zip was not found on this server.\
08:00.48ckknight?
08:00.53ckknightoRA design?
08:00.57sedatedChipmunkoops
08:00.59sedatedChipmunkcapital C
08:01.15MoonWolfty very much
08:01.53sedatedChipmunklike i said, I dont' remember what's different...but it's been usable enough that I honestly haven't touched it in 6 months
08:02.12MoonWolfthat sounds good.
08:02.17hasteckknight, I'm unable to check your editbox, and provide you with an image
08:02.19sedatedChipmunkand I can't say that for very many of my addons
08:02.20Makkdo I delete the Blizzard_RaidUI-folder?
08:02.23ckknightwhy?
08:02.29hastesince I don't have a computer that can play WoW
08:02.32ckknightah
08:02.42sedatedChipmunknot necessary
08:02.52Makkok
08:03.12MoonWolfif you did WoW would put it back next restart.
08:03.30MoonWolfit only contains a small file that acts as a link to the files in the .mpq
08:03.34sedatedChipmunkMoonWolf: I do know that one of the things I changed was to allow pinging on a blip if you held the shift key down when you clicked
08:03.46sedatedChipmunkthere was no way to do that with the original
08:03.51MoonWolfyeah
08:03.52sedatedChipmunkI think that was the original reason I dug into it
08:03.53MoonWolfgood
08:04.12sedatedChipmunkand I modified the frames a bit and stuff
08:04.20MoonWolfnow i can finally target a hidden flag carrer without having to find that one pixel sticking out of a tree/wall
08:04.29MoonWolfor typing his name in /target
08:04.32MoonWolfwich takes to long.
08:04.38sedatedChipmunkI really ought to have another pass at it
08:04.44sedatedChipmunkthat was during my unenlightened days
08:05.09sedatedChipmunkthe before-time
08:05.16MoonWolflol
08:05.25MoonWolfim sure it wont cause 500kb/s mem increase
08:05.30MoonWolfif it will, your dead.
08:05.31sedatedChipmunkwhen I knew jack about lua, and mostly copy/pasted
08:05.44sedatedChipmunkwell I normally run around with 0.0-0.2 mem
08:05.52sedatedChipmunkincrease*
08:06.08sedatedChipmunkthough I've never really payed attention while mousing over blips and stuff
08:06.14sedatedChipmunkbut if it does
08:06.29sedatedChipmunkyou can fix it, and send your changes to me =p
08:07.22sedatedChipmunkok really sleeping now
08:07.24sedatedChipmunkI swear
08:07.29MoonWolfsure
08:08.42sedatedChipmunkI am!
08:09.46ckknighthey sedatedChipmunk
08:10.57ckknightaw
08:11.23sedatedChipmunk'sup
08:11.28sedatedChipmunk>8x
08:11.50ckknightlol
08:11.52ckknightgo to sleep
08:12.23MoonWolfnot noticing it.
08:12.41MoonWolfi has not detached it
08:12.44MoonWolfhe is still watching
08:12.45MoonWolfI KNOW IT.
08:13.03ckknighthttp://albinoblacksheep.com/video/wheee
08:14.16MoonWolfhehe
08:15.18WobinomgomgomgandhesaysWHEEEE
08:17.26phyberCodayus: have you given BWL a try yet?  we haven't done Ragnaros but we still go and try Razorgore sometimes.
08:19.35Wobinhm
08:20.07WobinWith PlowKing's split into, say, Tradeskill categories, should I have duplicate matching items shows in more than one category, or just the first one it comes across?
08:20.14[Ammo]monrning
08:20.24MoonWolfmore then one.
08:20.30MoonWolfmorning ammo
08:22.15CIA-1703ammo * r2539 10BigWigs/AQ40/Sartura.lua:
08:22.15CIA-17Bigwigs:
08:22.15CIA-17* Fixed Sartura disable, some messages weren't cancelled.
08:26.32ckknighthey [Ammo]
08:27.29MoonWolfhttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/screenshots/screens.html;jsessionid=1FF98521F4E69C05EEA27B89C43A1648.app14
08:28.56Wobinhrm, considering the ramifications of a single bagslot object with multiple UIobjects
08:29.44Wobinhehe oooh the biting humour of the night elves
08:30.32MoonWolf%race ftw.
08:37.37IndustrialI was sitting in the train and I got this flash; A wow interface.
08:38.20IndustrialWhen I took a look at the blizzard actionbutton code I found it funny that when you drop an action onto a button it just sets its icon texture and onkeypress up/down to that action
08:38.33IndustrialSo I'm thinking, Why cant I make my own actionbuttons?
08:38.51Industriallike, no XML, really lightweight
08:38.56Industrialand square!
08:38.57Industrial:P
08:38.59MoonWolfgo ahead and try
08:39.58Industrialeheh
08:41.07IndustrialNo but seriously, I have all these creative thoguhts in my mind all of a sudden.. doesnt happen very often
08:41.14Industrialand thoughts too!
08:42.52MoonWolfhows is your last day shaping up ?
08:44.57Codayusphyber: Nope
08:47.26ckknighthas anyone else played with my version of AceLibrary at all?
08:47.38MoonWolfnope
08:49.12ckknight:-P
08:51.18ckknightwell, guess I'm gonna hack on it
08:51.33MoonWolfagain
08:51.36[Ammo]I've been thinking on bigwigssyncing
08:51.41ckknightyes
08:51.42IndustrialMoonWolf: good
08:51.45[Ammo]and wrote some pseudostuff
08:51.49IndustrialI discovered a new html tag
08:51.51Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/
08:51.53Industrial:o
08:51.55[Ammo]http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/bigwigssync.txt
08:52.13ckknightI don't like how you can do AceLibrary.versions to access it raw
08:52.14MoonWolfwhats the new tag there ?
08:52.23[Ammo]fieldset :p
08:52.23Industrialfieldset
08:52.24[Ammo]proably
08:52.28ckknightfieldset is nice
08:52.40MoonWolfi knew that one already :(
08:52.45Industrial:p
08:52.50[Ammo]can anyone check that .txt and tell me if I am completely moronic or it's a good idea? :)
08:53.06MoonWolfyour a moron
08:53.09[Ammo]thanks
08:53.47MoonWolfto my limited understanding
08:53.50MoonWolfit looks fine
08:54.14[Ammo]now I hope Tekkub thinks the same :)
08:54.25MoonWolfofcourse not
08:54.35MoonWolfand ckknight will want to rip out half of the code.
08:54.40MoonWolfthat isnt there yet to begin with.
08:54.46[Ammo]hehe
08:54.51[Ammo]it's a concept
08:55.02ckknight[Ammo], can't help you, I don't raid
08:55.11[Ammo]I do raid
08:55.14[Ammo]and lead raids
08:55.18[Ammo]we had the best raid ever last night
08:55.21[Ammo]1 rogue in AQ40
08:55.26[Ammo]it was imba
08:55.29MoonWolfare rogues that important ?
08:55.35[Ammo]well we thought they were
08:55.39ckknighthehe
08:55.39MoonWolfthat its special to only have one.
08:55.39[Ammo]but they're obsolete :)
08:55.45MoonWolfand hunters ?
08:55.47ckknightcompared to?
08:55.56[Ammo]http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/huhuran1rogue.jpg
08:56.02[Ammo]we killed huhuran with 1 rogue
08:56.13[Ammo]in the first attempt
08:56.28[Ammo]after a long discussion wether to waste consumables or not
08:56.33[Ammo]we decided to give it 2 goes
08:56.36[Ammo]and we only needed 1 :)
08:56.59MoonWolfwhat drops ?
08:57.08[Ammo]cloth healing gloves
08:57.23MoonWolf:(
08:57.37[Ammo]Gloves of the Messiah
08:57.56Industriali smell aliance!
08:57.59[Ammo]yup
08:58.10[Ammo]horde have it easier on this fight atm
08:58.15[Ammo]but we have 3 soullink warlocks
08:58.22[Ammo]soullink warlocks == NR buffer
08:58.23FryGuyyour screen is backwards ammo :p
08:58.27[Ammo]backwards?
08:59.02[Ammo]oh and we pull huhuran to a weird position as you might have spotted
08:59.08[Ammo]alll the way out of her room to the room before that
08:59.12MoonWolfany reasons for that /
08:59.15MoonWolf?*
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08:59.21[Ammo]more manouvering space, and easier dewiping
08:59.39MoonWolfi have not seen her/his room
08:59.46MoonWolfis it smaller ?
08:59.49[Ammo]the tunnel you see in the screenshot leads to her room
08:59.50[Ammo]no it's not
09:00.00[Ammo]but ressing is hard with her patrolling around
09:00.04MoonWolfah
09:00.04[Ammo]so we just pull her back
09:00.19MoonWolfhunter pet pull ?
09:00.19[Ammo]I like things nice and controlled
09:00.21[Ammo]yeah
09:00.38[Ammo]Floyd a pink flamingo does it usually :)
09:00.52MoonWolflol
09:00.58MoonWolfi have a white wolf from ashenvale
09:01.01MoonWolfname mist
09:01.13MoonWolfbut a pink flamingo named floyd
09:01.16MoonWolfthat is brilliant.
09:01.43ckknightwoot, I got my crazy new code working
09:01.58[Ammo]yeah it is pretty damn funny
09:02.46ckknightnow it is impossible to access the raw data of AceLibrary
09:02.58ckknightthe only things it exports are its methods
09:03.02ckknightnothing extra
09:04.38MoonWolfOO design ftw
09:10.04ckknightfound bugs.
09:10.46CIA-1703ckknight 07ckknight * r2540 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - fixed a bug in IsNewVersion
09:11.14CIA-1703ckknight 07TestSuite * r2541 10AceLibrary/LibraryVersioning-7.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added LibraryVersioning-7.lua
09:11.27ckknightMoonWolf, that's actually not OO design, it's about privacy and such
09:11.44MoonWolfshush
09:11.49MoonWolfi wanted to sound itteligent.
09:14.16Syzxthat worked out untill ckknight ruined it :p
09:14.27ckknighthehe
09:15.10Syzxbut, isnt OO about privacy in your classes and methods aswell? a little ;-)
09:16.16ckknightno.
09:16.23CIA-1703ckknight 07TestSuite * r2542 10AceLibrary/LibraryAccess-1.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added LibraryAccess-1.lua
09:16.28ckknightprivacy is not a requirement to have proper OO
09:17.00ckknightOO is more about methods with data but also proper inheritance/polymorphism
09:17.33CIA-1703ammo * r2543 10oRA_BigWigs/ (oRA_BigWigs.lua oRA_BigWigsLocals.lua):
09:17.33CIA-17oRA_BigWigs:
09:17.33CIA-17* Added toggling of broadcasting RS messages
09:17.33CIA-17* Added toggling of whispering messages
09:19.33CIA-1703ckknight 07ckknight * r2544 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - cleaned code up a bit.
09:20.13MoonWolf~whaleslap microfost
09:20.21purlACTION beats microfost upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
09:22.25ckknightmicrofost?
09:22.46MoonWolfa player on a pvp realm i play on
09:22.53MoonWolfits not my hobby to be sheeped again
09:22.55MoonWolfand again
09:22.58MoonWolfand again
09:23.14MoonWolfhe is a lvl 60 mage, and i am a lvl 45 warlock.
09:23.14[Ammo]hehe
09:23.22[Ammo]ask guildies to kill him
09:23.32MoonWolfnot at the moment
09:23.37MoonWolfi just got rememinded of it
09:23.40[Ammo]uor guild has a silly reputation atm for ganking
09:23.41MoonWolfhappen last night.
09:23.58[Ammo]all because we had some fun in western plaguelands towards horde homeland
09:24.14[Ammo]we had a naked male nightelf dancing under that gate there
09:24.18[Ammo]and 4 stealthed rogues on the gate
09:24.29[Ammo]just about every horde that passed by took the bait
09:24.32[Ammo]and engaged the nelf
09:24.37ckknighthehe
09:24.38[Ammo]just to be oneshotted by 4 rogues
09:24.46ckknightthat's great
09:24.50[Ammo]after an hour we had aruond 20 skeletons on the floor
09:24.54[Ammo]with a dancing nightelf in the middle
09:24.57[Ammo]and _still_ they engaged
09:25.07ckknightlol
09:25.12[Ammo]it was soooo funny
09:26.27[Ammo]I suggest you try it sometime
09:26.27[Ammo]:)
09:26.27[Ammo]ruined our guild rep though
09:26.27[Ammo]but who cares
09:26.27MoonWolfhe look its a lone naked nightelf
09:26.27MoonWolfnot suspicious
09:26.27MoonWolfat all.
09:26.28[Ammo]dancing on a PILE of corpses
09:26.28MoonWolfHow could this possibly be a trap.
09:26.50[Ammo]pvp realm  -> it's red it's dead
09:26.50[Ammo]that's our motto
09:26.50ckknightlol
09:26.54[Ammo]we had to take measures though
09:27.00ckknighthow so?
09:27.04[Ammo]nowadays we have to move as a big group to instances
09:27.11ckknightah
09:27.13ckknightyea
09:27.14[Ammo]because lone members near raid instances get killed while other guilds are let past ;)
09:27.26[Ammo]but steamrolling UBRS groups when heading to BWL is funny
09:33.53Syzx[Ammo]: are you horde or alliance
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09:34.40[Ammo]alliance
09:35.08hasteI'm thinking of getting cygwin here
09:35.08ckknight_~salute
09:35.21purlACTION salutes to the glory of the Steemwheedle Cartel
09:35.21hasteI miss irssi :(
09:35.43[Ammo]haste!
09:35.49hasteme!
09:35.53[Ammo]http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/bigwigssync.txt
09:35.58[Ammo]read and tell me what you think :)
09:36.09[Ammo](is it compatible with what you and tekk already discussed?)
09:36.20CIA-1703handdol * r2545 10BigWigs/MC/Ragnaros.lua:
09:36.20CIA-17BigWigs
09:36.20CIA-17<PROTECTED>
09:36.28haste(opening links are a PITA without a real mouse)
09:36.29ckknight_blasted connection
09:36.37ckknight_trying to push through another commit of AceLibrary
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09:38.09haste[Ammo], I think Tekkub wants BigWigs to handle the communications with a lib
09:38.23ckknight_yea
09:38.25hastesince it would be used by BigWigs, oRA and maybe Squishy
09:38.32ckknight_should write one of those eventually
09:38.54ckknight_granted, I don't play WoW
09:38.56[Ammo]haste: that's fine
09:38.56ckknight_so it'd be tough
09:39.06[Ammo]that's just the part oRA_Core:Send() replacement
09:39.17haste(I'm writing with a on-screen keyboard!)
09:39.41[Ammo]whatever comm lib is used is not a factor
09:39.56[Ammo]because that's just the sending / receiving part which is handled by oRA
09:40.36[Ammo]it's just friday and hot around here, so toying with ideas
09:40.43hastehehe
09:40.48MoonWolfyeah its pretty warm today
09:40.51MoonWolffor a change
09:40.59[Ammo]it's been warm all wek
09:40.59hasteI'm watiting to see if I get to know what my exam will be today
09:41.01MoonWolf20 degrees here
09:41.18[Ammo]enschede here, so always a bit better than in the west
09:41.58[Ammo]haste: what do you think of the event generation etc, so the module will eventually just get a specific event
09:42.08MoonWolfFriesland here, we get all the clouds.
09:43.49haste[Ammo], looks okey
09:53.24Industrialamsterdam here
09:53.41MoonWolfhot there ?
09:53.58Industrialnah
09:54.30Industrialair vent system thingy keeping at the right temp
09:55.31*** join/#wowace ckknight__ (i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com)
09:56.04MoonWolfoutside i mean.
09:56.17Industrial21-22 or so
10:28.25Industrialhttp://i5.tinypic.com/125106h.jpg
10:28.28Industrialthats so my thing
10:29.25phybernice office.
10:32.14MoonWolfhehe
10:36.38Industrialhttp://www.chatcreator.com/chatap/rooms/wowace/
10:39.11Industrialits sew web2.0
10:39.15IndustrialFAIL
10:39.17Industrialnext
10:39.19haste;
10:39.50ckknight__ugh
10:40.20IndustrialI dont even use MSN anymore for the teen whores
10:40.25Industrial:E
10:40.47Industrial(in the netherlands msn has like 80% market share)
10:42.00ckknight__it's AIM in America primarily
10:42.54[Ammo]dutch but funny: http://gallery.alnitak.nl/gallery//Various/youcanhire6xi.jpg
10:44.32[Ammo]it's a request for the A-Team
10:45.10hastehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3599345813932688090 not dutch!
10:45.27[Ammo]btw haste the most recent maintank things are broken
10:45.40[Ammo]if someone updates 1 maintank  or something they all disappear
10:46.02[Ammo]didn't have tha tproblem before
10:46.04[Ammo]started yesterday
10:46.07ckknight__maintank?
10:46.14[Ammo]oRA_MainTank
10:46.39[Ammo]the CTRA people had 6 MTs and I only had the last 2 that were set after the rest was set
10:46.57[Ammo]when I set the MTs everything worked again and no-one complained
10:48.39hastethe problem was that people manage to go offline, reload, or at least do something that made their MT not get removed
10:48.54[Ammo]I was online the whole time etc
10:49.02[Ammo]but when people swapped mt's around it bugged
10:49.21MoonWolfHADOKEN
10:49.22[Ammo]example when it happened: we had 6 MTs set up for trash in front of skeram
10:49.27[Ammo]1 2 3 4 5 and 6
10:49.30hastethe problem is that you'll need to reset the MTs on the request
10:49.34[Ammo]then we had the same 6 for skeram
10:49.42[Ammo]1 2 4 5 7 8
10:49.45[Ammo]so there are gaps
10:49.50[Ammo]that's when it bugged
10:50.15hasteoRA_MainTank sets tank after what number it's fed tho'
10:50.28[Ammo]well somehow it gets fed wrong info I think
10:50.33[Ammo]and clears the tanks
10:51.46[Ammo]which didn't use to happen until I upgraded to the newest
10:52.00ThianaLast night we had 1 2 3 6 and it worked fine ...
10:52.19Thianabtw Morning
10:52.23hasteI don't see why it would delete the rest :o
10:52.26[Ammo]me neither
10:52.27[Ammo]but it did
10:52.32hasteI would understand if it deleted the first ones
10:52.41[Ammo]it showed only 4 and 5
10:52.54[Ammo]I think it's something to do with setting someone that used to be MT1 as MT4
10:53.24[Ammo]so we had 1 2 3 4 5 6 and 3 and 5 became 7 and 8
10:53.39[Ammo]it then only showed part of the mTs
10:53.53[Ammo]and it happened more than once
10:53.59hastebut then again, it's CTRA feeding that information?
10:54.21MoonWolfhttp://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/subliminal.php <- hah this one is fun to see again
10:54.28hasteCTRA sends SET <number> <player name>
10:54.34hasteif I'm not remembering incorrect
10:54.58Thiana6+ is a different key isnt it?
10:55.07[Ammo]yeah 6+ is SET2
10:55.10[Ammo]I think
10:55.18[Ammo]might be that the new CTRA version is different
10:55.21[Ammo]but I don't think so
10:55.46hasteSET and SET2 has the EXACTLY same code in CTRA
10:55.50hasteonly difference is the regepx
10:56.13hasteonly reason there is a set2 is because there was originally only support for 5 MTs
10:56.40[Ammo]yeah
10:56.48[Ammo]I just wonder what causes that stuff
10:57.11hasteI think it's on the CTRA side, since it's the numbers that get mixed
10:57.11[Ammo]maybe it sends a bonkers string
10:57.21[Ammo]well the CTRA guys had no problem
10:57.50hastemaybe they changed some code
10:57.58[Ammo]oh and the most recent oRA also doesn't unafk me anymore when I move
10:58.06hastesince the old CTRA (1.530 or something) spammed Mts at times
10:58.18[Ammo]so if I idle and go afk, and move I don't unafk
10:58.31[Ammo]I think oRA is causing that, because it started when I updated it :p
10:58.40[Ammo]and saw you changed some unafk/afk code around
10:58.45hasteyeh, Soin submitted some diff for that
10:58.54[Ammo]hmm
10:59.05hasteI changed some to prevent oRA from clearing a person aFK tag
10:59.05[Ammo]better patch that in )
10:59.15[Ammo]I now have to manually clear it
10:59.36hasteif I did /afk, then someone did a resist check for example  I would be pulled out of AFK
11:00.09[Ammo]well it's worse than it was now
11:00.24hastewell, it could go into a AFK, UNAFK loop before
11:00.53hasteI don't have a computer that can run WoW right now, so it's hard to test tho'
11:01.34[Ammo]hmm
11:01.39[Ammo]I hate to have to manually clear afk
11:01.44hasteand my exam most likely starts in a couple of hours :(
11:01.51[Ammo]aha
11:02.04[Ammo]it's a minor annoyance, and the loop is bad yeah
11:02.16hastethe loop is very bad
11:02.21hasteI've seen it crash CTRA clients :p
11:02.39hastethat loop + the MT spam loop the old CTRA had
11:02.51[Ammo]uhuh
11:02.56[Ammo]evil...
11:03.00ThianaIs WoW lua 5.0 or 5.1 or ?
11:03.05[Ammo]5.1 afaik
11:03.24ThianaThanks
11:03.38MoonWolf5.0
11:03.58hasteI agree with moon
11:04.01[Ammo]oh ok
11:04.17[Ammo]I thought it was 5.1 mentioned somewhere in the discussion about tables
11:04.20[Ammo]on the forums
11:04.24MoonWolfwe WANT 5.1
11:04.29[Ammo]k
11:04.30MoonWolfbut we have 5.0
11:05.27[Ammo]I'm just rambling on
11:05.30[Ammo]it's friday afternoon
11:05.33[Ammo]and almost time for beer
11:05.39[Ammo]fed up with work and want to do something fun
11:05.53hastehopefully I don't get a note about what exam I get today
11:06.05[Ammo]hmm?
11:06.10[Ammo]surprise exam?
11:06.33hasteno, orals
11:06.44hastethey pull out groups of eight for them
11:07.18[Ammo]so you can also not get an exam?
11:07.19hasteif you get notified at 09:00 today, you would be taking the exam on monday, if 14:30 which is next, you'll have the exam on thuesday
11:07.33hasteno, I'm doing the last year, so I will have to take an exam
11:07.37[Ammo]hehe ok
11:07.48hasteluckily I wasn't pulled out for norwegian ^^
11:07.59hastewhich is two books on 300 pages and a presentation
11:08.27MoonWolfhehe
11:08.31[Ammo]what to code this afternoon
11:09.06hasteI would have coded something, but on-screen keyboard isn't really ment for it
11:09.54[Ammo]why use an onscreen keyboard?
11:10.10haste'cause the laptop keyboard is borked
11:10.17[Ammo]I see there's a request for an oRA_healingthingspammbot
11:10.23hasteI just use this comp for VT
11:10.24[Ammo]in the Squishy thread
11:10.39hastewhy is that in the squishy thread?
11:11.08[Ammo]they want 1 standard thing that sends over the RA channel when you're healing who for estimated how much
11:11.10hastethe Squishy thread is probably the last thread I will read on the whole forum :p
11:11.12[Ammo]with what heal
11:11.25[Ammo]just read page 9
11:12.01hasteI don't like emergency monitors, reason enough for me not to read it :D
11:14.20[Ammo]squishy is kinda cool
11:14.24[Ammo]works well enough for me
11:19.46FryGuy[Ammo]: i think your sync thing is wrong :/
11:20.07FryGuyi mean the idea
11:20.09FryGuyit's too complicated
11:20.33[Ammo]it's not
11:20.41[Ammo]imho
11:20.55[Ammo]because the module just sends a sync message, and receives an incoming sync
11:21.41[Ammo]the whole way the core handles it is rather straightforward too
11:22.33FryGuyhmm
11:22.34[Ammo]which is in the end what you need
11:22.39[Ammo]the module needs to be simple
11:22.40FryGuyi have a good idea in my head
11:23.12FryGuyit's kind of an architecture change for bigwigs though
11:23.44[Ammo]this uses the standard event driven architecture
11:23.52FryGuyyes this would too
11:24.00FryGuyi mean the actual modules though
11:24.27FryGuybasically there's 3 kinds of things that the bossmods needs to handle
11:24.48FryGuythere's timed abilities, announcements, and whispers
11:25.50Industrialhttp://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7726/wowlayout0016au.png
11:25.55Industrialneed opinions
11:25.56FryGuythe way i forsee it working is you'd have the bossmod do 3 things
11:26.03Industrialif you think its FUGLY tell me what to improve
11:26.10FryGuy1) set up the messages
11:26.47FryGuy2) trigger on combat events, and send messages out from those
11:27.23FryGuy3) read the messages from the triggers (and merge with incoming from raid channel) and do stuff based on that
11:27.56FryGuyi should write up some pseudocode i guess :/
11:28.40FryGuybut i need to go to sleep heh
11:29.06FryGuyand wha is that Industrial?
11:29.57Industrialbottom 12 are buttons
11:30.02Industrialabove it an xp bar
11:30.07Industrialplayer and target unit frames
11:30.10Industrialand castingbar
11:30.42FryGuywhat's the 16 mean?
11:30.48MoonWolfaction buttons.
11:30.49MoonWolfi think
11:31.06IndustrialTimes you can do the action
11:31.13IndustrialI think thats very handy :P
11:31.21FryGuywill it look like mspaint? :P
11:31.28Industrialno ofcource not
11:31.29Industrial:D
11:32.00MoonWolfsome poeple have lives
11:32.05IndustrialIm taking out the 16 part
11:32.10MoonWolfsome peopel play wow, do kickboxing and make pixelart.
11:32.41IndustrialSome people like to visualize their ideas before trying to make them with code
11:32.50MoonWolfin pixel art.
11:32.54FryGuyand will it be that big?
11:33.01FryGuyi mean, all the way across
11:33.35Industrialno, thats centered
11:33.44Industriala button is as big as a normal actionbutton
11:33.54FryGuyhmm
11:33.55Industrial(good size imo)
11:33.56FryGuydunno :/
11:34.00FryGuyi'm going to sleep :p
11:34.11Industrial:p
11:35.13IndustrialMoonWolf: well you make something similar
11:35.19Industrialhow would your interface look
11:36.05Industrialoh break time over :( *work*
11:36.20ckknight__all interfaces should resemble sex.
11:37.17ckknight__that way, it's intuitive
11:37.47ckknight__only by harnessing our monkey instincts can we have the most seamlessly fun time while playing WoW
11:38.36MoonWolfi dont think an interface driven by a penis will be very speedy
11:38.52ckknight__not driven by
11:38.54ckknight__just resembling
11:39.04ckknight__so to say, cast a spell
11:39.31ckknight__you move a hand up and down a penis, thus simulating masturbation/handjobs
11:39.33MoonWolfkill someone, have an orgasm ?
11:39.41ckknight__pretty muh.
11:39.42ckknight__much*
11:40.01MoonWolfdamn, thats going to be a game you wont be playing for more then 10 kills a day
11:40.09Industriallol
11:40.33IndustrialJust had another idea; the exp bar is a castingbar when you cast something
11:40.33MoonWolfand thats spread out a lot too
11:40.38Industrialgo space saving!
11:40.43ckknight__Industrial, icky.
11:41.06ckknight__MoonWolf, actually if you do it right, men can have multiple orgasms
11:41.11ckknight__typically up to 3 in a row
11:41.11ThianaIt must be annoying being so ruled by your sex drives...
11:41.26ckknight__yea
11:41.26ckknight__it totally is
11:41.38MoonWolfckknight__, and after those orgasms your going to be to damn sestive to cast a spell
11:42.05ckknightdespite going against my biological instincts, I know it'd be a lot easier if I didn't have to worry about it at all
11:42.45ThianaYou guys obviously need some alone time... *wanders off*
11:42.45MoonWolfIndustrial, ill get you design when i get home.
11:42.52MoonWolflol
11:43.00ckknightThiana, already taken care of, no worries for a little while
11:43.05MoonWolfckknight started it!
11:43.34ckknight~moredots
11:43.42purlhit it like you mean it!
11:44.03hastehaha
11:44.15MoonWolf~C'thun
11:44.17purl*** Incoming Tentacle Rape Party - 5~ sec! ***
11:44.59ckknight~literal moredots
11:45.00purl"moredots" is "<reply>hit it like you mean it!"
11:45.56ckknightpurl, no moredots is <reply>(hit it like you mean it!|50 dkp minus!|handle it!|left side! even side!|you lose 50 dkp again!)
11:45.57purlokay, ckknight
11:46.05ckknight~moredots
11:46.06purlhandle it!
11:52.05Wobinpurl, no moredots is <reply>(hit it like you mean it!|50 dkp minus!|handle it!|left side! even side!|you lose 50 dkp again!|Okay, stop dots!)
11:52.07purlWobin: okay
11:53.45ckknightpurl, no moredots is <reply>(hit it like you mean it!|50 dkp minus!|handle it!|left side! even side!|you lose 50 dkp again!|more dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!)
11:53.47purlokay, ckknight
11:55.50ckknightpurl, no moredots is <reply>(hit it like you mean it!|50 dkp minus!|handle it!|left side! even side!|you lose 50 dkp again!|more dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!|dps very, very slow - I mean fucking slow)
11:55.51purlckknight: please, watch your language.
11:56.03ckknightpurl, no moredots is <reply>(hit it like you mean it!|50 dkp minus!|handle it!|left side! even side!|you lose 50 dkp again!|more dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!|dps very, very slow - I mean f*cking slow)
11:56.05purlokay, ckknight
11:56.27ckknightpurl, no moredots is <reply>(hit it like you mean it!|50 dkp minus!|handle it!|left side! even side!|you lose 50 dkp again!|more dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!|dps very, very slowly - I mean f*cking slow)
11:56.28purlckknight: okay
11:56.29ckknightthere we go
11:56.32ckknightI'm satisfied
11:58.34ckknighthttp://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6081882.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=zdnn
12:06.41Wobinhehe
12:07.50MoonWolffarewell internet as we know it.
12:10.09IndustrialI dont understand it
12:10.12Industrialwtf is net neutraility
12:10.37hastea company can pay to give traffic towards their site prio or something
12:10.56hastewhich is retarded and wrong
12:11.20IndustrialAnd im alos reading it like the internet is something america owns
12:11.23Industrialalso*
12:11.34Industrials/america/the USA/
12:11.44Industrialwich is also retarder
12:11.44Industriald
12:11.47MoonWolfthats what most of america thinks
12:11.53MoonWolfthey own the innernet
12:11.59hasteand the rest of the world
12:12.05MoonWolfyeah that too
12:14.46Industrialthe typos! more caff!
12:17.55MoonWolflol
12:18.02MoonWolfFor the DutchLand!
12:18.06ckknightLa ilaha illa Allah, Mohammedun ra sulu Allah.
12:18.10ckknightDutchland?
12:18.23Industrialthe Hollandlan!
12:18.24MoonWolfDutch + holland = DutchLand!
12:18.25Industrialthe Hollandland!
12:18.30Industrial:P
12:18.37WobinWhat is net neutrality?
12:18.40WobinI'm glad you asked
12:19.03MoonWolfhttp://www.askaninja.com/news/2006/05/11/ask-a-ninja-special-delivery-4-net-neutrality
12:19.04Industrialnetneutraility IS THE DEVIL?!?!?
12:19.11Industrialno sounde here
12:19.13Industrialno sound here
12:19.19MoonWolfoh
12:20.04Wobinhttp://www.askaninja.com/news/2006/05/11/ask-a-ninja-special-delivery-4-net-neutrality-quicktime
12:20.06Wobindamnit
12:20.08Wobintoo slow =)
12:35.25MoonWolfhttp://tmp.4chan.org/wg/src/1149539634764.jpg <- first person to rekognize the game gets a cookie SFW
12:39.31Industrialmove zig?
12:39.43phyberevery zig is moving :/
12:40.05phyberis it battlestar gallactica online?
12:40.55MoonWolfno even close.
12:40.58MoonWolfnot*
12:43.45phyberhttp://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/-/8/bush_office_helper.jpg
12:43.57phybernot related to the game, but funny :)
12:45.20phyberMoonWolf: is it the draynei landing in WoW?
12:45.34MoonWolfno
12:45.43MoonWolfWingCommander: prophecy
12:45.44MoonWolfn00b
12:45.52MoonWolfkergoth would have recognized it.
12:45.55phyberah
12:46.00phyberI never played Wing Commander :/
12:46.44MoonWolffail at life
12:47.08phybertrue.
12:55.06CIA-1703hk2717 * r2546 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: More Simplified Chinese localization.
12:59.18hasteyay, no exam for me !
12:59.31MoonWolfgood for you
12:59.31hasteso now I have to wait untill the middle of next week :p
12:59.40MoonWolfnow get your lessons from tekkub.
12:59.40[Ammo]yay haste!
13:00.21hastenow I just need to get my comp running again
13:00.40[Ammo]try running a proper OS on your desktop :p
13:00.44[Ammo]use linux for the servers
13:01.26hastewhy the tree?
13:01.40haste[Ammo], You should see me using windows
13:01.44MoonWolfit was looking at me funny.
13:02.11[Ammo]hehe
13:02.12hasteit's like: *pushes Alt+F2* *waits* *waits* *waits* *waits* "oh.. no virtual desktops here"
13:02.24[Ammo]you can install virtual desktops
13:02.34[Ammo]I don't use them though
13:02.38[Ammo]I use fullscreen windows only
13:02.42[Ammo]so alt-tab is my virtual desktops
13:02.56[Ammo]around 8 fullscreen putty's to my linux machine
13:03.05[Ammo]and everything else fullscreen
13:03.21haste<PROTECTED>
13:03.26hasteFoobar 2000
13:03.52MoonWolfi have virtual desktops
13:04.35MoonWolfxoblite specificly
13:05.03hastewin32 +blackbox worked fine ;)
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13:17.43hasteI didn't like it :<
13:18.05hasteI blame the touchpad mouse
13:19.27IndustrialI have virtual desktops too
13:19.34IndustrialMultidesk2001
13:19.38Industrial:P
13:20.17hasteDoes it support alt+FX-ing?
13:27.45Industrialwhats alt+FX?
13:28.29hastechange desktop
13:29.10Industrialwhats FX
13:29.10Industrialohhh
13:29.10hasteF1, F2, F3, F4
13:29.10Industrialyeah ofcource
13:29.10hastetime to google again
13:29.10Industrialbut alt+1-9 ;)
13:29.11Industrialnot f
13:29.11hastenoes!
13:29.15hasteI use that to change IRC channels :p
13:29.20Industrialalt/windows/ctrl/shift/whatevercombo
13:29.27hasteand change browser tab
13:29.30Industrialalt/windows/ctrl/shift/whatevercombo
13:29.47Industrial9 desktops max
13:29.49hasteI'm still using the on-screen keyboard to write!
13:29.57hasteie. slow
13:30.00Industrial:P
13:30.24Industrialjust check it out
13:31.14MoonWolfhttp://dat.4chan.org/b/src/1149859366841.png <- more or less safe for work (nothing sexual)
13:32.07Industriallol
13:32.08Industrial:D
13:32.26Industrialhttp://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6805/wowlayout0011ob.png
13:32.31Industrialohnoes updatedversion
13:32.35phyberhah, quality :)
13:32.46Industrial(lol @ the target name *pokes haste*)
13:33.37hastezomg, abuse of steino ! :p
13:33.52Industrial:P
13:34.10IndustrialI was like hm i need a neme
13:34.12Industrialname*
13:34.43IndustrialTips welcome and if its FUGLY tell me what to change
13:35.04hastehttp://dat.4chan.org/b/src/1149859725239.jpg :D
13:35.32hasteso you are going to make your own unit frames also now id ;D ?
13:35.56Industrialdunnoi
13:36.18Industrialits withstand
13:36.20Industrialpwnt
13:36.34Industrialguess both are right?
13:36.35Industrial:S
13:36.51haste*confused*'
13:36.53Industrialhaste: maybe. I just had this flash of wow in the train :P
13:37.11Industrial(how you notice you are addicted)
13:38.10IndustrialSo i had to rape ms paint with my skillz
13:38.33MoonWolf?
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13:38.53MoonWolfmore dutch now!
13:39.05Shyvayow
13:39.16Shyvawat? meer nederlands nodig? :o
13:39.49MoonWolfgewoon een grapje.
13:39.51IndustrialInvasion of the Dutch. Now in theaters near you!
13:39.53Shyva^^
13:40.05haste*gråter*
13:42.32MoonWolfsomething wrong haste ?
13:42.40hasteno, not at all
13:42.49MoonWolfgood
13:44.06hastetime for some food and a quick power sleep
13:45.01WobinRising up! Out of the night!
13:45.24Industrialhttp://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2466/wowlayout0012zi.png
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13:57.39IndustrialAm I weird by being the only one sharing and thinking aloud about his interface?
13:57.55MoonWolfno
13:58.02MoonWolfbut i have nothing to contribute
13:58.04MoonWolfso i remain silent.
13:58.20IndustrialEveryone has an opinion
13:58.39MoonWolfI dont't like it.
13:58.44Industrialdont be afraid to say its ugly :P
13:58.46Industrialyeah
13:58.49Industrialhow/why
13:58.50Industrial:D
13:58.58MoonWolfto little buttons
13:59.04MoonWolfi use 3 bars of the things.
13:59.13Industrialwell me too, atm
13:59.15MoonWolfi don' t use xp bars
13:59.29MoonWolfand i could care less for target of target
14:00.23Industrialreally? I think its really really handy
14:00.44Industrialespecially with multiple mobs of the same typ
14:00.44Industriale
14:07.50WobinToT is useful I guess
14:08.06WobinAt least for my hunter
14:08.19WobinBut I'd like just a "OMG You're being targetted!"
14:08.24WobinRather than a constant thing
14:08.27WobinJust to manage aggro
14:09.16WobinAs a raid healer, it's less important, cause if the ToT is not the tank, then you have problems already =P
14:09.34WobinAnd if the ToT is you, then you've really got problems =P
14:09.48WobinAnd fade isn't likely to help at that point =P
14:10.08TainI just attack whatever I want all willy-nilly.  
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14:11.48MikmaIndustrial: clean an simple would be best
14:13.00TemWobin, I disagree
14:13.12TemTanks and healers are the ones who most need ToT
14:13.20WobinAt least on the raids I've been doing
14:13.31Temfor the fights that aren't single tank
14:13.35Wobinoh yeah, tanks need it
14:13.39Temlike oh all of the fights in BWL
14:13.58TemYou have to be healing the Boss's target which changes during the fight
14:14.12Wobinhm
14:14.25TemRazor, Firemaw, Ebonroc, Vael
14:14.37WobinOn any boss fight where the aggro passes around we've been using "omg, taking over plz heal" alerts
14:14.49Temlol @ you guys
14:15.00Temit's *way* easier to use toT
14:15.07Industrial--^
14:15.11Wobinmaybe =P
14:15.16Tem(we've been using the same thing for the UI challenged of the guild)
14:15.18WobinDepending on how casual the raid is =P
14:15.32TemBWL isn't casual yet
14:15.38Wobinexactly
14:15.41Temthere is still the chance of wipe if we screw up
14:15.46TemMC...
14:16.04Temshow up and flail at the giant clowns and they give us purple toys
14:16.11WobinWe're casual to the point where the only req is ctra
14:16.20Wobinand even then we're not stringent about it
14:16.32Temwe don't even have a CTRA req
14:16.33Wobinnot farming, casual
14:16.46TemI just think it's silly that people don't use ToT
14:16.51Tem(healers)
14:17.08Temoh, it's nice for *everyone* to have it for Shazz
14:17.17TemI hate that fight so, so much
14:17.21WobinAs I said, we're not even up to 40man =P
14:17.27Wobin(ie, Casual)
14:17.56Temhmm, ZG then?
14:18.10TemSpider and Hakkar are tough without ToT
14:18.10Wobinyeah
14:18.16WobinWe're up to spider
14:18.22Wobinbut haven't beaten her yet
14:18.46Wobingenerally speaking, it's pretty obvious for spider when the tank doesn't have aggro =)
14:19.02Temyeah, but it's easier to find the new tank with ToT
14:19.20WobinEspecially when New Tank == Mage =P
14:19.49WobinWe have to figure out a strategy that works for us. We've tried a few
14:20.02WobinAlmost killed her, but we needed more antivenom
14:20.10Wobinattrition rate was horrible =P
14:20.29Temthe one we use is we have the ranged dps and healing clump out of poison range with a tank waiting to catch her
14:20.54Temwhen she roots the MT and charges someone in the ranged group, the tank there taunts and drags her back to the MT
14:20.59Wobinyeah, we've tried that... maybe we need to stay futher back
14:21.06Temrinse, repeat
14:21.18Mikmathe beat kicks, and not start rocking!
14:21.19[Ammo]indeed tem
14:21.25[Ammo]that's the way to take her out
14:21.27TemI really like the new Hakkar
14:21.41TemJin'do is pretty fun too
14:21.45Wobinone suggestion has been dogpiling, so she doesn't race around the room =P
14:21.47Tembut I heart Hakkar
14:21.55Wobin(with her facing away from the raid)
14:21.56Temah, that might work
14:22.05Tembut the poison isn't directional, iirc
14:22.13Temso you'll have to have killer cleansing going on
14:22.17Wobinyeah, but she won't fire it if she's at the tank
14:22.28Wobin(apparantly?)
14:22.33Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/exploration1.jpg (try 1-3)
14:22.35Temyou guys sure about that?
14:22.40Wobinnot really
14:22.46WobinBut it's worth a try
14:22.46IndustrialMikma: omg?
14:22.52TemI haven't been to ZG in a while, but I thought it was a 360 thing
14:22.53IndustrialMikma: i loved the IF one too
14:22.58IndustrialMikma: how do you do that lol :P
14:23.19Wobinoh it's a 360 thing
14:23.22MikmaIndustrial: maybe the last picture will give you a hint? ;)
14:23.27TemAnyone around that's more familliar with the Spider fight than me?
14:23.34Temthis is really bothering me that I can't remember it
14:24.00[Ammo]I am pretty familiar
14:24.00Temand Mikma, how did you get there?
14:24.07[Ammo]it's a 360 thing
14:24.09[Ammo]cleanse is key
14:24.17[Ammo]and tanks have to be on the ball
14:24.18Tainhaha there's a video game detox clinic opening in Europe.
14:24.20Temcan pallies clean poisons?
14:24.26[Ammo]yeah
14:24.26Wobinyeah
14:24.36Wobin(we had -one- pally ><)
14:24.40Tain"It can start with a Game Boy, perhaps given by parents hoping to keep their children occupied but away from the television. From there it can progress to multilevel games that aren't made to be won."
14:24.40[Ammo]ouch
14:24.41Tekkuberf
14:24.43Temk, so horde are SoL
14:24.54[Ammo]hey tekkub
14:24.59Tembut that's probably a viable strat for alliance
14:25.01Tekkubellho
14:25.02[Ammo]I have something you should read
14:25.10Tekkubmeh, reading sucks
14:25.11[Ammo]http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/bigwigssync.txt
14:25.14TainOh yeah Horde has it a lot worse with some fights with no Pallys.  
14:25.17[Ammo]my ideas regarding syncing
14:25.20[Ammo]probably rough and sucky
14:25.23[Ammo]but I think it'll work
14:26.05MikmaTem: http://wow.reaktio.net/exploration3.jpg
14:26.07WobinGah
14:26.10Tekkubwell we can get the basic functionality working then I can work on that lib and slip it in instead...
14:26.15WobinI keep trying to use the mouse to pan the shot =P
14:26.24TemMikma, where is that?
14:26.25Tekkuband to make that easy I say we handle it in a core module
14:26.28[Ammo]what do you think about my idea then?
14:26.39[Ammo]specially the specific event generation
14:26.44MikmaTem: in the deeprun tram
14:26.44Tekkubso you go self:triggerevent("BIGWIGS_SENDSYNC", msg)
14:26.48Temwoah
14:26.50WobinThe gate?
14:26.53Wobinwtf?
14:27.03Tekkuband in reverse it'd trigger events on receives
14:27.07[Ammo]yeah
14:27.09[Ammo]that's what I wrote
14:27.12Mikmahttp://slate.kaasu.org/darkportal_in_if.png
14:27.13[Ammo]but it generates specific events
14:27.18[Ammo]example
14:27.26Tekkubyea I know
14:27.34Tekkubthat's what I want to do
14:27.36[Ammo]Twins Emperors generates message: self:TriggerEvent("BIGWIGS_SENDSYNC", "TWINSENRAGE")
14:28.06WobinMikma: Is this just photoshopping? =P
14:28.06[Ammo]and that will eventually end up on the other side as the "BIGWIGS_SYNC_TWINSENRAGE" event
14:28.16Tekkubworks for me, I'll whip up a quick module for you while dinner is cooking
14:28.18[Ammo]so the twins module just listens to that event
14:28.24[Ammo]read the url I posted
14:28.27MikmaWobin: nope, i'll put another screenshot on soon
14:28.28Tem[Ammo], so what you're trying to get is something to make BigWigs show all events for people who are out of range?
14:28.28[Ammo]it contains pseudo code and ideas
14:28.31Tekkubyea I have it open :P
14:28.33[Ammo]no Tem
14:28.41Tem:(
14:28.43[Ammo]very specific events that need syncing
14:28.50[Ammo]like the twins enrage, teleport etc
14:28.51Tekkubwe're on the same page ammo
14:28.54[Ammo]cool tekk
14:29.07[Ammo]just something I whipped up while bored this morning :)
14:29.09Temoh, what's with the placement of the Bars?
14:29.22TekkubI just want a more robust lib for the comm that'll work with CTRA or oRA and is embeddable so other mods can use it...
14:29.35Tekkubbut if I do what you have in a module I can change that in easily
14:29.36[Ammo]ok, but for now we can make it work with oRA
14:29.42[Ammo]yeah
14:29.53[Ammo]I didn't include any throtteling code etc
14:30.08[Ammo]10x same message in X second(s) -> only trigger 1 event
14:30.30Tekkubhrm....
14:30.39[Ammo]I did comment where it should be :)
14:30.51Tekkubshould I try to filter in the module or just let the boss modules deal with it
14:30.53[Ammo]something with a metrognome schedule and a table with the messages
14:30.55MikmaWobin: http://wow.reaktio.net/wobin.jpg
14:31.02[Ammo]it's better to filter it in the core
14:31.09Tekkubcause there may be cases where you want the same message from many people
14:31.15[Ammo]so the module coder doesn't have to write tons of duplicate code
14:31.22[Ammo]we could include a tag in it
14:31.29[Ammo]or generate a diff message
14:31.35Tekkubhrm...
14:31.40[Ammo]depending on a flag in the triggerevent
14:31.41[Ammo]or something
14:31.50Wobin=\
14:31.51Tekkubhrm...
14:32.04WobinSo. Mikma. Why? =P
14:32.07TekkubI'll get the core working first, then we can debate how to filter duplicates
14:32.12[Ammo]k
14:32.32Tekkubmaybe send a timestamp in the event
14:32.32MikmaWobin: why what?
14:32.36[Ammo]could be
14:32.39WobinWhy is it looking like that?
14:32.49[Ammo]and store the last timestamp for that event
14:33.00[Ammo]but timestamp == received time
14:33.01Tekkubon first event save the stamp, then the module can just ignore in within x seconds on it's own
14:33.03[Ammo]so not really needed
14:33.19[Ammo]but meh
14:33.24Tekkub*shrug*
14:33.26[Ammo]fix first, then nuke duplicates :)
14:33.39MikmaWobin: because if has darkportal in it hehe
14:33.42[Ammo]I can fix the oRA_BigWigs part if needed btw
14:33.46[Ammo]with toggleable, sync etc
14:34.04WobinMikma: Meh =P
14:34.05TekkubI think timestamp is the simplest solution....
14:34.12WobinSo how did you get up the top of SW?
14:34.26Tekkubor maybe the module can fire off an event that tells Comm not to supress dups for x event
14:34.42[Ammo]that could work
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14:35.19[Ammo]shall I write up the oRA_BigWigs part to fire events on incoming messages
14:35.47TekkubI'm writing just give me a min
14:35.50[Ammo]:)
14:35.57MikmaWobin: i put a dark portal infront of gryphonmaster and ran up there
14:36.13Wobin...
14:36.22WobinI'm missing something about these darkportals =P
14:36.31Wobinwtf are they?
14:37.17Mikmathey are basic campfires
14:37.23Tem...
14:37.43Temthat's so uncreative
14:37.50TemI changed the campfire graphic to Rag
14:38.00Temthat made for some interesting screenshots...
14:38.06[Ammo]hehe
14:38.07Wobingroan
14:38.12Mikmayeah but using dark portal you'll get a movable stairs
14:38.27Temcan you run onto it while dead?
14:38.46Mikmaontop of it? or in it
14:38.51Temon top
14:38.59Temuse it as a set of stairs
14:39.02Mikmadunno haven''t tested.
14:39.12Temthen how on earth did you get above SW?
14:39.26Mikma<1735> <Mikma> Wobin: i put a dark portal infront of gryphonmaster and ran up there
14:39.44Tem...
14:39.49Temthat's what I was suggesting
14:40.03Wobinso, the answer is Yes =)
14:40.11Tem<Mikma> dunno haven''t tested.
14:40.31Temanyway, that's a very interesting idea
14:40.49MikmaWobin: but i haven't tested it by being dead
14:40.52WobinI think that's 'dunno haven't tested while dead'
14:40.58Mikmayou can sure in hell run up there while alive
14:40.59[Ammo]evil applicatants: Hardo Bear - 60 Druid - Needing some Bear Love
14:41.07Temoh, so you don't need to be dead to use it?
14:41.13Mikmanope :)
14:41.19WobinMikma's just shadowformed
14:41.19Temhmm, that's
14:41.23Temthats...
14:41.23Mikmaand it looks rather.. interesting on others screen
14:41.31Mikmaoh yeah, shadowform ftw :)
14:41.40Temthat'd be a nasty trick in WSG
14:41.40WobinIt's remarkably hacky =P
14:41.43Tekkubhey ammo....
14:41.43Mikma(nelfs have whisps as racial passive)
14:41.46[Ammo]yeah tek
14:41.49Wobinomg
14:41.57MikmaTem: you're not the first one to say that today
14:42.05WobinWell... apart from the fact that if you put it up, -you- won't be able to see a thing
14:42.12WobinSince it blocks out a lot
14:42.14Tekkub"[^ ]+)[ ]*"  do you mean "^(%S+)%s*(.*)$
14:42.25[Ammo]euh probably :)
14:42.36[Ammo]I mean get the first word and nothing iff there's nothing after it
14:42.50Tekkubyea just %s for whitespace :P
14:42.53[Ammo][^ ]+ == everything but spaces
14:43.00Tekkub%S not whitespace
14:43.03MikmaWobin: but it's a campfire, it will eventually disappear
14:43.10[Ammo]yeah I'm used to other regexps :)
14:43.10WobinTrue
14:43.12[Ammo]sorry
14:43.14Tekkub^^
14:43.16WobinThey take some time though
14:43.18[Ammo]perl / php etc
14:43.22Tekkubor should I say ^$
14:43.25[Ammo]but you understood what I meant :)
14:43.32Temso... like..
14:43.42WobinI'd replace, say, a target dummy maybe, that has a shorter lifespan
14:43.44[Ammo]since I put comments above it!
14:43.46Temdoes it look like you are floating?
14:43.51Tekkubyea yea
14:44.02[Ammo]sorry friday afternoon, beer, and I feel like talking
14:44.06Tekkubgetting this in now, no duplicate supression
14:44.12[Ammo]cool
14:44.21MikmaTem: yeah :)
14:44.38Temget reported for h4x yet?
14:45.07[Ammo](guess how people farm dungeons)
14:45.11MikmaTem: nope
14:45.14[Ammo]I'd suggest being careful mikma
14:45.18Tem[Ammo], really?
14:45.23[Ammo]because this is similar to the explots
14:45.31[Ammo]that they use to farm bosses from unreachable spots
14:45.48Mikma[Ammo]: well i know
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14:46.39Mikmabut you'll also have to remember i'm the one who has messaged gm's to come and pick me up from holes
14:46.42[Ammo]you only get saved to an instance if you kill the first boss
14:46.55[Ammo]so there are people farming the second boss or another one in AQ20 using that
14:46.59[Ammo]and selling the class books
14:47.10[Ammo]by going over the wall or something
14:47.11Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/gm.jpg
14:47.14Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/gm2jpg
14:47.49Wobinonly the first boss?
14:47.51Mikmaand yesterday the GM teleported me in middle of air behind AQ in silithus (forbidden area)
14:47.51Wobinwow
14:48.02Mikmaalmost killed me by doing it :D
14:48.25Mikmathen i mounted and ran away, i bet he noticed he put me in a wrong place and then he moved me in stormwind
14:48.41[Ammo]hehe
14:48.47[Ammo]wobin: yeah apparantly
14:48.49Mikmanoticed that he*
14:49.05Tekkubokey ammo....
14:49.16WobinGnomish Mountain Climbing Equipment? =P
14:49.19Mikma"But the cool cats hang out in Stormwind"
14:49.23TekkubBIGWIGS_SYNC_SEND msg
14:49.24MikmaWobin: yeah :D
14:49.28Tem[Ammo], so, what you're saying is they skip Kurinnax by running over him and kill Rajaxx
14:49.33[Ammo]Tem: yes
14:49.33WobinAre they not asking -how- you get there? =P
14:49.38Temthen reset the instance?
14:49.41Temand repeat?
14:49.42[Ammo]yes
14:49.46[Ammo]or they kill another
14:49.47WobinThat's kinda evil
14:49.48[Ammo]but they do that
14:49.51Wobinbut cunning
14:49.56Mikmai made a ticket "i was trying out my new mountain-climbing set and i fell in a hole under orgrimmar"
14:50.02Mikmaand "i forgot my HS in ironforge"
14:50.26[Ammo]Tekkub: I'll make oRA_BigWigs trigger on the send then
14:50.29[Ammo]k?
14:50.32Mikmathe reply he gave my wasn't actually the kind i was hoping for lol
14:50.47TemMikma, what kind of reply did you get?
14:50.48Tekkubeh?
14:50.55[Ammo]or what? :)
14:50.58Tekkubwhat does oRA BW have to do with any of this?
14:51.01Mikma"i'll strap on my far mor superior goblin mountaineering gear abd come pull you out"
14:51.06MikmaTem: http://wow.reaktio.net/gm2.jpg
14:51.08[Ammo]well it can send messages :)
14:51.10[Ammo]or did you build it in the core
14:51.14Elkanohmm... tekkub, I just wondered if the new BabbleLib has made translating CorkFu to deDE just a matter of adding a few chars (since it now uses the English names as base)
14:51.20Mikmathere's the whole conversation :)
14:51.39Tekkubyes Elk, I'm working on it
14:51.39[Ammo]the cool part about an ora module for it is that you can use the ora parsing for the messages, and just fire an event that bigwigs picks up
14:51.50Mikmaoh wait
14:51.57MikmaTem: sorry! http://wow.reaktio.net/gm.jpg
14:51.58[Ammo]like I typed in my doc thing
14:52.02[Ammo]but maybe I'm confused atm
14:52.04Mikmathis is the one, gm2 is from yesterday!
14:52.15CIA-1703tekkub * r2548 10BigWigs/ (BigWigs.toc Comm.lua): BigWigs - Added Comm module, will only work with oRA right now, see Ammo's upcoming changes for examples on use.
14:52.24[Ammo]ah hehe :()
14:52.27[Ammo]thanks
14:52.34Elkano\o/
14:52.34[Ammo]will now update Twin Emps Enrage :)
14:52.48[Ammo]CIA was just slow! :)
14:53.07TemMikma, lol
14:53.24TemI don't have that problem
14:53.32TemTeleport ftw
14:53.33MikmaTem: yeah the gm.jpg was when i was stuck under orgrimmar and gm2.jpg is from yesterday
14:53.33[Ammo]Tekkub: you might want to check if oRA_Core exists : )
14:53.50MikmaTem: obviously you haven't been under orgrimmar then ;)
14:53.55Tekkubmeh, not really
14:53.57Temoh I can't teleport out?
14:54.01Tekkub:P
14:54.09MikmaTem: oh yeah teleport, not blink lol
14:54.11Tekkubanyway, food, fuck off all of ya's
14:54.13[Ammo]well... you just broke it for non oRA users :)
14:54.16[Ammo]later dude :)
14:54.18Mikmawell teleports require reagents
14:54.26Tekkubyea well you're the one than wanted it :P
14:54.26MikmaTekkub: lick ya later
14:54.31Temyeah, but I use Teleport runes faster then Portal runes
14:54.34Tekkubfix it yourself it's easy
14:54.42Temso if I ever run out of teleport runes, I have a portal rune to spare
14:54.42[Ammo]I know :)
14:55.01[Ammo]this won't work I think though tekk
14:55.05[Ammo]but meh :)
14:55.08MikmaTem: well the whole point with my tickets is i have found a hole, deleted my hs and jumped in
14:55.17Mikmajust to see when do i get a 3h/3day ban
14:55.25Tem...
14:55.30TemWhy would you *want* that?
14:55.32[Ammo]since oRA's AddCheck and receive parsing doesn't trigger nicely
14:55.34Mikmaand the one that happened yesterday was under DireMaul
14:55.57MikmaTem: because i have 4 days playtime left and don't have the money to buy more this month
14:56.33Mikmaand i may continue playing the game when expansion hits shores
14:56.42Mikmaor if i get money to buy 2x prepaids
14:57.06TekkubI have no clue how oRA's stuff triggers, you're the one tha wrote it :P
14:58.05Elkanohmm, is there any way to obtain the level of a quest when you see it's text in order to accept it?
14:58.31CIA-1703ammo * r2549 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua:
14:58.31CIA-17BigWigs:
14:58.31CIA-17* As Tekkub Requested, Sync Example for the Twin Emperors Enrage
14:58.32Mikmahey fellows.. one question
14:58.37[Ammo]I will fix it Tekk
14:58.48[Ammo]that's why I said it should be on oRA_BigWigs
14:58.48Mikmaif you delete your char and make a ticket about it, do you lose your gears what you had on?
14:58.54[Ammo]because that's an oRA Module
14:59.18CIA-1703tekkub * r2550 10BigWigs/Comm.lua: BigWigs - shouldn't throw errors for non-oRAers
14:59.22[Ammo]:)
14:59.41Tekkubbut oRA BW is for sending crap to chat
14:59.53[Ammo]oh it works
14:59.54[Ammo]nvm
14:59.56Tekkubthe sync comm should be built in and work with CTRA or oRA
14:59.59[Ammo]ignore my comments
15:00.01[Ammo]this is good
15:00.13[Ammo]I'll test it tonight
15:00.18[Ammo]and pray I don't fuck over my raid :)
15:00.22Tekkubkek
15:00.33[Ammo]thanks
15:00.36Mikmanobody knows?
15:00.42[Ammo]now enjoy your breakfast/hubby/beer/drink/work
15:00.46TekkubI assume we need to work in some mechanism for sending data with the message too
15:00.53[Ammo]euhm
15:00.57[Ammo]yeah
15:01.14[Ammo]that's why I was sending the 'rest' as a string
15:01.14Tekkub3 days off, hubby off too, I'm now sick and I have a hubby talking at me, you, and a cat bitching about something
15:01.18[Ammo]but that could become arguments
15:01.20Tekkubme == short fuse
15:01.22[Ammo]hehe
15:01.24[Ammo]go explode
15:01.26[Ammo]bye!
15:01.26[Ammo]:)
15:01.33Tekkubdinner's not ready
15:01.34Mikma~poke Tekkub
15:01.35purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Tekkub, pokes Tekkub repeatedly, hilarity ensues
15:01.49Tekkub~gfy
15:01.50purlhmm... gfy is http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
15:01.59Tekkub~hate purl
15:02.06Tekkub~horse buttholes
15:02.08purlfrom a cup!
15:02.26[Ammo]I'll post a warning on the forums about the current SVN status ;)
15:02.32Mikmathat's a really interesting feature i must say
15:02.45Tekkubcurrent SVN _SHOULD_ be errorfree
15:02.56Tekkubsomeone just needs to doublecheck with oRA running
15:03.05Mikmahmm
15:03.20Tekkubcause, well, I don't exactly get much chance to test raid shit
15:03.26Mikmamaybe i just should go and try deleting my mage on burning legion (pvp) just to see do they return it with clothes on or not
15:03.40Tekkuband after the big hunter loot drama this week, I honestly don't want to raid again
15:03.59[Ammo]ugh
15:04.04[Ammo]you need a proper guild
15:04.11Tekkubunless someone has a raid guild elsewhere that fits my sched and will take me in and someone will duo with me HINT HINT HINT
15:04.33TekkubBTW I'd be a priest or drood
15:04.37[Ammo]hehe
15:04.44[Ammo]well I am on a EU server
15:04.52Tekkubscho?
15:04.59Tekkubop he's on the TV, bbiaf
15:05.12Wobinheheh
15:05.13Wobinhttp://www.livejournal.com/userpic/46975296/886437
15:05.53Mikmahttp://img67.imageshack.us/img67/336/d3ef5bb22cee721a2587d805c71881.gif ;)
15:06.03Wobinhehehe
15:06.04WobinHealing in raids is somewhat akin to whack-a-mole with spells with 10-40 health bars (depending on the raid). Good luck!
15:06.14WobinWhat a great summation =P
15:06.40Mikmahaha this is just great! http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=37699
15:06.45TemWobin, my a priest in my guild has been saying that forever
15:07.09WobinIt's so true =)
15:07.26Mikmasomehow that's so true it makes me sad
15:07.51Mikmathat's the reason i turned into shadow on my last playtime-days hehe
15:07.55Mikmadon't have to heal much
15:08.02Mikmajust melt faces and enjoy
15:08.06TemTekkub, we need dr00ds real bad
15:08.24Temwe should kill nef in the next few weeks
15:08.37Temgot him to phase2 on wednesday
15:09.28Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/triciapvp4.jpg
15:09.33Mikmathis is from yesterday :P
15:09.34[Ammo]the first phase is kinda icky
15:09.50[Ammo]what we do is: warlocks in one half of the raid, mages in the other
15:09.58[Ammo]and then depending on the colors deploy them at the correct door
15:10.22TemMikma, I hate you
15:10.36Temyou're that kind of priest in pvp that thinks they are a mage
15:10.41Temcompletely useless
15:12.27[Ammo]we use warlock aoe and mage singeltarget
15:12.28phyberTekkub: did you check out AGCI from the SVN?  it has the beginning of support for FuBar :)
15:12.42[Ammo]hellfire squad
15:12.52[Ammo]but our raids are usually warlock heavy :)
15:12.54[Ammo]5-6
15:17.11MikmaTem: thanks i love you too
15:17.37CIA-1703ammo * r2551 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua:
15:17.38CIA-17BigWigs:
15:17.39MikmaTem: well the thing with that game.. i was 50% in shadowform, and the half time i healed my party and used SW:P :)
15:17.40CIA-17* Added a bit of Spam protection to the syncing.
15:18.47Mikmamilking sw:p all over the enemies is just lovely, free hk's
15:19.06TemI had a shadow priest in my last WSG pug
15:19.09Temcompletely useless
15:19.15Temdidn't do enough damage to kill things
15:19.24Temand let the other teams Shadow Priest kill me
15:19.27Temso nothing died
15:19.28Temever
15:19.53Mikmawow, useless priest then i must say
15:20.04Temsorry Mikma, nothing really against you.  I'm just bitter
15:20.05Mikmausually i won't let my teammates die if i am near them
15:20.11[Ammo]I have a priest who thinks it's funny to go shadowform in a raid
15:20.24[Ammo]he did it a few times for fun
15:20.32[Ammo]then a tank died, a tank he was supposed to heal
15:20.38MikmaTem: yeah have you concidered if the priest was me? ;)
15:20.39[Ammo]suffice to say, he won't do it again
15:21.01Mikma1 shadowpriest in Vael is pretty awesome, really
15:21.08[Ammo]not in shadowform
15:21.18[Ammo]to put the weaving on vael ok
15:21.19Mikmayeah not in shadowform but with shadow-spec
15:21.22[Ammo]but not in shadowform
15:21.31[Ammo]we have 2 weaving priests
15:21.36[Ammo]which is great
15:21.39Mikmaaye that's good!
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15:21.52[Ammo]but going shadowform == yells from half the guild
15:21.55Mikmausually people don't understand why it's good to have priests with shadowspecs with raid
15:22.04TemI hope to god we never let a priest in my guild go shadow to "up the dps of locks"
15:22.07MoonWolfmaximizes the warlock potential
15:22.15[Ammo]Tem: let 1 of them go
15:22.18[Ammo]and teach them
15:22.20Tembecause I would be really angry to lose gear to a priest
15:22.21phyberwe take a shadow priest with us in raids.
15:22.28[Ammo]no
15:22.34MikmaTem: if you do let 1 to go shadow, warlocks will love that priest forever
15:22.38phyberI usually try to get into their group because of Vampiric Embrace.  free life tapping.
15:22.42TemI hate our locks
15:22.42MoonWolfthe warlock has priorety over the shadowpriest.
15:22.45[Ammo]let 1 spec shadow or tri-spec as ours are
15:22.47MoonWolfin my opinion.
15:22.49TemI don't like a single one of them
15:22.54MoonWolfi like them
15:22.56[Ammo]k that's different
15:22.58MoonWolfand im a warlock.
15:23.00MikmaMoonWolf: good guilds have that prio
15:23.06[Ammo]we have prio's
15:23.13Temif we didn't need healthstones and soulstones, I'd kick em all
15:23.18[Ammo]sigh
15:23.26Mikmapriest will get his own set, and if warlock doesn't wan't the dps gear then shadowpriests can roll
15:23.35[Ammo]you're silly Tem and have a shitty guild I guess
15:23.47Temno, I just hate the locks in my guild
15:23.55TemI'd invite new ones
15:24.08Mikmawhen i joined the guild i was in the warlocks really loved me and everyone of them was against that i had to convert into holy/disc
15:24.10MoonWolfwhats the matter with them ?
15:24.26[Ammo]we have 1 shadowspecced priest in the raid at all times
15:24.31[Ammo]weaving on bosses is imba
15:24.37Temdon't like their attitudes
15:24.38Mikma[Ammo]: and warlocks love that priest
15:24.45[Ammo]because we have 5-6 warlocks in a raid at all times
15:24.54MoonWolfyeah
15:24.54[Ammo]we outgun the mages by a mile
15:25.03MoonWolfthat really starts to hurt at those rates.
15:25.15[Ammo]also because all locks bought Fetish of the Sandreaver
15:25.20[Ammo]while the mages pulled their nose at it
15:25.21Mikma[Ammo]: i hope the priest has a tactic on doing SW:P rank1 on the boss occasionally (to get the weaving into 5/5)
15:25.24[Ammo]yeajh
15:25.27Mikmathat really saves mana for heals
15:25.29[Ammo]that's what I tought him
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15:25.36[Ammo]I saw him do the blue beam
15:25.39[Ammo]and scolded his ass
15:25.43Mikmahoho
15:25.46[Ammo]told him to use SW:P
15:25.56TemI also don't like that locks do more damage than mages, but that's a completely seperate issue
15:25.59Mikmasw:p rank1 was 90 mana or so?
15:26.01MoonWolfcan you blackout a boss ?
15:26.05[Ammo]no you can't
15:26.05MikmaMoonWolf: nope
15:26.12Tembosses are immune to stun
15:26.12MoonWolfthat would be fun.
15:26.14Temwith 1 exception
15:26.18TemRajaxx
15:26.19[Ammo]well I also always CoE a boss
15:26.26[Ammo]for the mages
15:26.29Temand only the lieutennant general can stun him
15:26.37Mikmawhat?
15:26.47Mikmayou serious?
15:26.50[Ammo]but all is cool in our guild
15:27.01TemMikma, serious about what?
15:27.05[Ammo]there's no real mage/warlock competition
15:27.11MoonWolfwarlocks and shadowpriests just have this cool synergy going on
15:27.12[Ammo]everyone has their job
15:27.14MikmaTem: that only lieutanent general can stun the boss
15:27.22[Ammo]and they do the job
15:27.22Temyeah, I've seen it
15:27.31TemWhat is a mage's job then?
15:27.33Mikmathat's... supercool
15:27.39[Ammo]to dps the living hell out of stuff
15:27.42MoonWolfdamage
15:27.44Mikmacrowdcontrol!
15:27.44Temwhy bother?
15:27.48Temwarlocks do better
15:27.51Temhunters do better
15:27.53[Ammo]because they can do more damage in AQ40 than warlocks?
15:27.56MoonWolfwarlocks are rare.
15:28.04[Ammo](not in our guild moonwolf)
15:28.09[Ammo]we have some pro locks
15:28.14[Ammo]3 of which are officers
15:28.21Temour crowd control is useless in raids
15:28.25MoonWolfif i do a /who warlock 60 on at 9 pm on my server i am lucky to get up to 49 of them.
15:28.33[Ammo]AQ40 == mage heaven
15:28.41Temnever been there
15:28.45Temdon't ever want to
15:28.52TemI hate silithus
15:28.54[Ammo]I agree in BWL mages are fucked
15:29.02[Ammo]and in MC you have to be frostspec'd
15:29.03Mikmamy opinnion is mages are for crowdcontrol
15:29.08TemI'm also bitter that I was completely left out of the gate opening
15:29.09[Ammo](which every mage will be coming 1.11)
15:29.11MoonWolfi have a warlock 46 on a pvp server and i get invites to raiding guild that promise me that they will powerlevel me if i want.
15:29.13Mikmai will always love frostmages
15:29.15[Ammo]no crowd control in raids
15:29.20[Ammo]apart from Majordomo
15:29.35TemMikma, There aren't any mobs in raids that are suceptable to our CC
15:29.51Temthe only raid mob that can be Frozen is Ragnaros
15:29.55MoonWolfill gladly see mages with another CC.
15:30.01[Ammo]oh and Viscidus in AQ40
15:30.07Temand the only mobs that can be sheeped are the Adds on Domo
15:30.08[Ammo]is a cool one for frost mages
15:30.20MoonWolflike warlock banish for , hell dragonkin and something else.
15:30.20[Ammo]but if you have a good guild all that doesn't matter
15:30.32Temgee, I'm so glad there are 2 gimick encounters in the game that make mages useful
15:30.34[Ammo]the vibe in the guild needs to be ok
15:30.51[Ammo]in a raid mages and locks aren't all that different
15:30.57[Ammo]one spams shadowbolt, the other frostbolt
15:31.01MoonWolfits all about the bolts
15:31.06Temexcept that locks have more health and do more damage?
15:31.14MikmaTem: but 75% of the raids is figgting against normal raidmobs, not bosses
15:31.15[Ammo]in the fire instances etc
15:31.21MoonWolfand they shouldnt outdamage on bolts
15:31.25[Ammo]AQ40 == mage damaeg
15:31.29MoonWolfbut its not that the warlocks can help that.
15:31.44[Ammo]http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/huhuran1rogue.jpg  (check those damagemeters)
15:32.09[Ammo]that's a typical AQ40 run
15:32.22[Ammo]AQ40 has no resistances to fire/ice
15:32.24MoonWolf(on a totally useless note, what do you bet the shadowresistances in naxx are going to be)
15:32.49[Ammo]high on several things....
15:32.49Temout of the fucking roof I hope
15:32.49Temsorry
15:32.55[Ammo]hehe
15:32.58[Ammo]well
15:33.03[Ammo]I don't have a grudge against everyone
15:33.06[Ammo]I have 1 level 60
15:33.10[Ammo]which is my warlock
15:33.14[Ammo]played it since 11 feb 2005
15:33.15MoonWolfwe cant help it that blizzard cant figure out what role warlocks are supposed to have
15:33.18TemI have 1 level 60
15:33.20Tema mage
15:33.33[Ammo]and I've had my ups and downs
15:33.34Temthat I've played since 23 of Nov, 2004
15:33.45[Ammo]but now I've collected my 600 shadowdamage set
15:33.53[Ammo]I can compete now
15:34.04TemMoonWolf, my biggest complaint about warlocks is that I have no shot whatsoever of killing one
15:34.20MoonWolfand really the worst thing is, people are complaining that locks are imba now when the only changes have been a slight increase of the dot damage and a fear effect on on of our lvl 40.
15:34.22Temespecially if he has a felhunter out
15:34.32[Ammo]yeah
15:34.39[Ammo]I agree on that one Tem
15:34.40MoonWolfWarlocks are mage counters.
15:34.45[Ammo]but WoW isn't about 1 on 1
15:34.50[Ammo]I never fight one on one
15:34.56TemFrom a lore point of view, that's bullshit
15:35.07TemMages = "Masters of the Arcane:
15:35.08Tem"
15:35.14Tembut we can't do shit vs other casters
15:35.16Temwtf?
15:35.33MoonWolfFrom a lore point of view we should not even have immolate and corruption and half our destruction abilities.
15:35.36[Ammo]Warlocks = Mages who delved too deep in demonic powers
15:35.58[Ammo]but warlocks got buffed
15:36.01[Ammo]and mages didn't
15:36.06[Ammo]mages deserve a buff
15:36.12Temwe're getting one
15:36.17[Ammo]the warlocks now struggle with a gazillion NOOBS
15:36.19Tembut, it's not enough imo
15:36.25MoonWolfa half asses redoing of the frost tree
15:36.26[Ammo]they are like OMG LEVEL 40 DEATHCOIL IMBA I WIN
15:36.33MoonWolfcool, they tricked out frost, and buffed fire some
15:36.43MoonWolfbut that wasnt really what was needed now was it.
15:36.51Temno, it wasn'
15:36.53Temt
15:37.04Temmy biggest complaint is that all 3 of the 31 point talents are dispellable
15:37.08MoonWolfthat one spell is what seems to make us imba, its really stupid, we were all locks are easy kills before
15:37.15MoonWolfwe get on fear effect on a spell
15:37.18MoonWolfomg locks are imba
15:37.48Temand that I have to spend 17 points in a mostly useless tree to get make my counterspell almost as good as a PET ABILITY THAT IS UNTALENTED
15:38.18[Ammo]but you need that pet out
15:38.31MoonWolfin pve that pet is never out .
15:38.39[Ammo]it's out on huhuran :p
15:38.42TemI've never encountered a warlock without that pet in pvp
15:38.45Tem*ever*
15:38.56[Ammo]I never have it out in pvp
15:38.57MoonWolfwhy would you, its the best choice
15:39.09[Ammo]but I beat the smack out of a lot of mages still
15:39.14[Ammo]I usually use a sac'd voidwalker
15:39.19[Ammo]160 Hp/4sec
15:39.19Temlol?
15:39.27MoonWolfthe perma innervate
15:39.31[Ammo]indeed
15:39.34MoonWolfi mean, renew.
15:39.45[Ammo]dot the mages, then burst them to death
15:39.51[Ammo]shadowburn, deathcoil etc
15:39.59TemI think I might be able to beat that strat
15:40.02[Ammo]and if I die, they die of the dot afterwards
15:40.03Temin 1.11
15:40.09[Ammo]1.11 might be different
15:40.22MoonWolfyeah
15:40.29[Ammo]but in BGs I use Feldog
15:40.31MoonWolfid be happy to get my direct damage nerfed
15:40.33Tembut I'd need to use 2 5 minute and 1 10 minute cooldown
15:40.34[Ammo]but BGs aren't real pvp
15:40.45[Ammo]real pvp is being jumped by an undead 13 year old rogue
15:40.53[Ammo]and beating the living daylights out of him
15:40.57MoonWolfif i get all my other elemets in lign of how a warlock should be.
15:41.27[Ammo]and when I'm out in the world grinding or doing stuff
15:41.29[Ammo]I don't use a feldog
15:41.32[Ammo]because it's useless
15:41.46TemI'm on a *sigh* pve server
15:41.52Temso the only pvp I encounter is BGs
15:42.01[Ammo]yeah and in BGs everyone is prepared
15:42.08[Ammo]so yeah warlocks will be your nemesis (pun intended)
15:42.11Temthat means warlocks always have a felhound out
15:42.33Temand that means I'll get my 31 pt talent dispelled by a pet
15:42.34[Ammo]out of beer at the officer
15:42.36[Ammo]-r
15:42.44[Ammo]yeah that's sucky
15:42.45Temand then be silenced by the pet
15:42.54Temand then die from dots before I come out of the silence
15:42.57[Ammo]warlocks complained about soullink being dispellable
15:43.01[Ammo]and it got fixed
15:43.09[Ammo]maybe mages can get the same
15:43.12[Ammo]but not sure
15:43.16Temmeanwhile the shadow priest next to me will try to kill the lock and fail
15:43.17[Ammo]either way I don't really care
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15:43.32[Ammo]I think blizz should balance more
15:43.35[Ammo]but I'm not too worried
15:43.48[Ammo]since the pvp system is retarded anyway
15:43.49TemI just want my sheild to be undispellable
15:43.52Temthen I'd be happy
15:43.54[Ammo]yeah
15:44.08TemI'd call 1.11 a real buff if they made my talents undispellable
15:44.18MoonWolfyou can have it like that for all i care.
15:44.35MoonWolfhell you can get a 50% more effective mana shield.
15:44.41TemI could beat you if I could have that
15:44.50TemI know I could
15:44.53[Ammo]no you couldn't beat me
15:44.58[Ammo]because I have friends :)
15:45.00Temit wouldn't be every time
15:45.09Tembut 1 on 1 I'd have a *shot* at kiling a warlock
15:45.10[Ammo]like I said, I don't like 1 on 1
15:45.16[Ammo]and I try to avoid it
15:45.21MoonWolfyour stil dealing with someone who has a base 120 ristance to everything.
15:45.21[Ammo]if I can I'll just fear and then run away
15:45.24TemI consider myself a master of 1 on 1
15:45.35MoonWolfresistiance*
15:45.39MoonWolfdamnit
15:45.57Temthe only classes I can't take on 1v1 is shaman, warlocks, and priests
15:46.07Tem(that's reliably take on)
15:46.19MoonWolfpriests are fucking annoying
15:46.20Tem(I can still sometimes kill priests and shaman 1v1)
15:46.22MoonWolfstupid silence.
15:46.26Temno,
15:46.29[Ammo]brb, buying beer next door :)
15:46.30Temstupid dispell
15:46.43Temthose 3 classes kill me because they dispell my sheild
15:47.35MoonWolfbah, a sacrificed vw shield is also dispellable.
15:48.37TemSL is so imba
15:48.45Wobin*blinkyblinky* There's a rumour that Mac is going to buy out Nintendo
15:48.49Temno way
15:48.51MoonWolfit SHOULD be dispellable of the pet.
15:49.01Temnot when the pet has 300 Resistances
15:49.04MoonWolfbut ofcourse, that is bugged.
15:49.06MoonWolfhehe
15:49.29MoonWolfactually
15:49.49Mikmahttp://wow.reaktio.net/exploration4.jpg
15:49.59MoonWolfimba
15:50.37MoonWolfaccording to the forums fear never breaks anyway.
15:50.49TemI've never seen it break...
15:51.01MoonWolflook harder.
15:51.02TemHowl of terror especially
15:51.09MoonWolfit breaks all the damn time.
15:51.10Temthat one lasts forever
15:51.21MoonWolfit takes 2 seconds to pull off.
15:51.33Temyeah, but damn
15:51.49Temthe warrior one seems to last until it finishes too
15:51.56MoonWolfyeah
15:52.06MoonWolfpriest and warrior fears make me sad.
15:52.15MoonWolfthey never complain about those
15:52.18MoonWolfand they are instant.
15:52.27Tembecause they are on COOLDOWN TIMERS
15:52.40MoonWolfon a warrior that works.
15:52.49Temspells with a cooldown should be more powerful than those without cooldowns
15:52.57MoonWolfits not like the thng has 5 minutes like a rogue evade.
15:53.07Temevade sux
15:53.13MoonWolfthats not the point.
15:53.16Temit only works against like 4 classes
15:53.18MoonWolfits only an example.
15:53.22[ven]wotf > fear
15:53.32TemWotF doesn't work on Death Coil
15:53.46[ven]iceblock does
15:53.56MoonWolfbesides, you can rest assured, fear got ANOTHER nerf in 1.11
15:53.57Temyes, yes it does
15:54.06TemMoonWolf, not from my perspective
15:54.25TemI've spent a *lot* of time on the test server
15:54.28MoonWolffears now take spell total damage in account for breaking instead of spell base damage.
15:54.50TemI'm honored with AV and friendly with WSG and AB
15:55.02MoonWolfyou have been busy.
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15:55.49MoonWolfill give up fear
15:56.07MoonWolffor another way to give warlocks a chance against melee
15:56.26MoonWolfand soul link is not an argument there.
15:56.55CIA-1703phoenyx * r2552 10BestInShow/ (BestInShow.lua BestInShow.toc BestInShowLocals.lua): (log message trimmed)
15:56.55CIA-17BestInShow: (Now, closer to working right!)
15:56.55CIA-17- Changed ace:print calls to self.cmd:msg
15:56.55CIA-17- Changed MODES data structure for better access.
15:56.55CIA-17- Added data closure for current item.
15:56.57CIA-17- Test change to the target selector in tekkub's PotHead. (Untested)
15:56.59CIA-17- More debug messages, incluing itemlink of item it chooses
15:57.45Temfear > sheep in pvp
15:57.51Temwhich is disappointing
15:58.24TemI'd accept the heal part of sheep if it lasted longer and couldn't be reapplied
15:58.25MoonWolfcant deny that.
15:58.51MoonWolfbut what exactly can a warlock do if they dont have fear.
15:58.53Temer, the reapply part is a bug I want fixed
15:59.27MoonWolfhow?
15:59.38Temif I recast sheep on someone, it does nothing
15:59.44Temit doesn't extend the timer
15:59.52TemI have to wait for them to break
15:59.56MoonWolfweird
15:59.59MoonWolfthat shouldnt work like that.
16:00.03Temagreed
16:00.05Tembut it does
16:00.14MoonWolfno other CC works like that.
16:00.22MoonWolfaccept seduce, but that inherent to the spell
16:00.23TemI'm not 100% on if it does that on live
16:00.31MoonWolfand banish, but they become immune to everything then.
16:00.36Tembut I know that's the case on test
16:00.45Tembanish can't really be used in pvp
16:00.49MoonWolftrue
16:00.50Temso, it's not an issue
16:00.57MoonWolfbut im yust listing CC behaviour.
16:00.59MoonWolfin general.
16:01.04Temyeah
16:01.10MoonWolfthat should really change.
16:01.19MoonWolflike NOW.
16:01.36Temheh
16:02.07MoonWolfBut blizzard never really listens to warlocks.
16:02.09Temugh! where did the forums go?
16:02.15MoonWolfour forums ?
16:02.23Temforums.wow.com
16:02.34MoonWolfthey can stay away for all i care.
16:02.54MoonWolfblizzard never listens to warlocks though
16:02.59Temnor to mages
16:03.06MoonWolfwe want a better way to handle soulshard, HAVE A USELESS BAG.
16:03.28MoonWolfwe would like the have a defensive spell that isnt fear based, HAVE A TERROR EFFECT ON A LVL 40 INSTANT.
16:04.04MoonWolfWe would like our endgame pets to be usefull, Have a damage buff to them.
16:04.48MoonWolfWe want soullink to be undispellable, HAVE A NERF TO SOULLINK AND NOW PEOPLE CAN DISSPEL IT OFF THE PET (and we bug that too)
16:05.42MoonWolfcan we have a bugfix, FIXED A BUG WHERE A WARLOCK COULD SOMETIMES GET 2 SOULSHARDS USING SHADOWBURN (btw, its still bugged)
16:05.49MoonWolfetc
16:05.50MoonWolfetc
16:06.34MoonWolfi wont start on how they ignored the mage arcane tree.
16:08.06MoonWolfbasically that went
16:08.22MoonWolfour arcane tree sucks, have a buff to fire, and lets totally redo frost.
16:08.52MoonWolflistening to your userbase ftw.
16:09.32Temfrost needed it
16:09.35[ven]i kinda like the new fire and frost trees... arcane is more useless now and counterspell still sucks
16:09.57TemWinter's chill is extremely important for raids
16:10.08Temsince like every mob was immune to frost nova
16:10.22Temwhich is where 80% of all frost crits come from
16:10.26Tem(frozen mobs)
16:11.02Temwe had no way to generate crits on end game mobs
16:11.08Temand nothing else to try
16:18.52CIA-1703ammo * r2553 10BigWigs/Comm.lua:
16:18.52CIA-17Bigwigs:
16:18.52CIA-17* Fixed typos and functionality.
16:21.29Wobin=\
16:21.52WobinI'm not sure if I can feasibly have more than one 'copy' of an item in multiple categories
16:22.33Wobinorganising the multiple instances of each item is a headache
16:39.51Ratbert_CPhttp://ace.pastebin.com/770308
16:41.19Ratbert_CPHmmm... I have a couple of lib:XXX references in the metatable of lib.cache.  Not good.  Hmmm...
16:43.37Ratbert_CPAh!  Just make the functions part of the cache table...
16:46.34hyperChipmunkbanish is AWESOME in pvp
16:47.15hyperChipmunkwhoever said that never tried to make a capture in AB with a banished infernal sitting on the flag
16:48.12MoonWolfhyperChipmunk, so its usefull 3 times in an hour.
16:48.33hyperChipmunkdude
16:49.02hyperChipmunkper warlock
16:49.19hyperChipmunkit's a fricking free defense against ANYTHING
16:50.38hyperChipmunkit's the single most-effective flag defense
16:50.56MoonWolfsngle most expensive too
16:51.19hyperChipmunknobody cares about expense
16:51.46MoonWolfbtw
16:51.50hyperChipmunkit's a game-breaker; it's worht it
16:52.00MoonWolfi thought of a really cool way to improve enslave
16:52.10MoonWolfi'll write it up some time today.
16:52.15hyperChipmunkyou try that tracking thing btw?
16:52.24WobinChipper: Does that basically make the flag untargettable?
16:52.26MoonWolfplaying iwth it now
16:52.31MoonWolfwaiting for a bg to come up.
16:52.42MoonWolfno, the infernal aura iterupts
16:52.46hyperChipmunkdo it with humaniod tracking in a city
16:52.47MoonWolfand works through banish
16:52.51Wobinow =P
16:52.56MoonWolfso you basically have an immune person interupting you.
16:52.57hyperChipmunkexactly
16:53.31MoonWolfthere is a movie of a number of warlocks exploiting that to kill a lot of people in the ah
16:53.35MoonWolfin ironfoge.
16:53.39hyperChipmunklol
16:53.48hyperChipmunkwarlocks are awesome in AB
16:54.02hyperChipmunkhellfire is the second most-effective flag defense
16:54.16MoonWolfhellfire is a plz kill me now move.
16:54.25MoonWolfthe first damn wave doesnt even do damage to others.
16:54.35hyperChipmunkrank 1 ftw
16:55.08MoonWolfill take arcane explosion of the way hellfire works at the moment.
16:55.19hyperChipmunkmages are too squishy
16:55.21MoonWolfinstead of*
16:55.33hyperChipmunkhellfire > holy nova > arcane explosion
16:55.50MoonWolfhellfire should not be channeled, then it would be awesome.
16:56.05hyperChipmunkhellfire + holy nova = $
16:56.23Wobinhellfire + holy nova = oom =)
16:56.33hyperChipmunklevel ones dude
16:56.42WobinJust for the interrupt?
16:56.44hyperChipmunkyes
16:56.50hyperChipmunkthe interrupt is all that matters
16:57.02WobinLevel 1 is still mana inefficent
16:57.04Wobin=(
16:57.20hyperChipmunkthough the way we do it is full hellfire and a priest healing
16:57.25MoonWolfthe only thing it has on mages is that warlocks have godly hp
16:57.40hyperChipmunkit looks 10 times sweeter too
16:57.44MoonWolfotherwise Arcane explosion is better in every aspect.
16:57.48MoonWolftrue
16:57.53MoonWolfthe looks are cool.
16:57.59hyperChipmunkand sound effect
16:58.49WobinSparkly!
16:59.02WobinHN looks nice
16:59.04MoonWolfat least hellfire looks like a big fire thingy
16:59.21MoonWolfthat mage firetree spell should look like hellfire too.
16:59.42hyperChipmunkWobin: empty ammo slots are showing up with empty regular-bag slots in PlowKing
16:59.51CIA-1703thiana * r2554 10BabbleLib/Spell/BabbleLib-Spell.lua: BabbleLib-Spell: Added Cooking/Herbalism/Sheep/Tailoring to english spells
16:59.53hyperChipmunkwhich basically makes both of them useless =P
17:00.05WobinChipper: Yeah, I'm trying to work out to have them coloured differently
17:00.39hyperChipmunkjust stick the empty ammo together with the ammo
17:01.21hyperChipmunkhas the bonus of being able to tell at-a-glance what your ammo status is, as well
17:01.39MoonWolfi like the new talent calculators
17:01.44hyperChipmunkthe ammo frame is about 75% full, you're about 75% ammo
17:01.56hyperChipmunkI don't; they eliminated the stuff at the bottom
17:02.10MoonWolfit was useless.
17:02.13hyperChipmunkwhere you could just look at the spell data without having to click the trees
17:02.34hyperChipmunkI can't see what rank n>1 of anything does without actually drilling down to it
17:02.46hyperChipmunkthe stuff at the bottom, you could just click them without prerequisites
17:02.58MoonWolfhmm
17:03.04MoonWolfokay thats a point
17:03.06hyperChipmunkand when comparing them, you could just open two tabs and switch back and forth
17:03.14MoonWolfbut i know most of all that stuff by heart.
17:03.25hyperChipmunknow you have to drill down and then find the icon again and mouseover it
17:04.02hyperChipmunki hate those stinking tooltips
17:06.28CIA-1703thiana * r2555 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc): (log message trimmed)
17:06.28CIA-17FuBar_tcgTradeskills:
17:06.29CIA-17* Switched to BabbleLib-Spell for skill icons/translations
17:06.29CIA-17* Removed OnUpdate()
17:06.29CIA-17* Added Texture for when there are no profession windows (ie, Herbalism/Mining only)
17:06.29CIA-17* Cache tooltip data instead of regenerating every UpdateTooltip() call
17:06.31CIA-17* Finally got the frame width thing right. No more overlapping other plugins or having a gap afterwards.
17:07.15Wobinum
17:07.26Wobinin regards to the Squishy thread?
17:07.34WobinWhy can't we use Shag's commchannel?
17:21.42Wobin???
17:21.43Wobin-- f=TitanPanelBarButton pr=UIParent p1=topleft p2=topleft wh=680 ht=24 x=0 y=-15
17:21.56Wobinline 119 in the PTEmbed for Misc =P
17:25.16MoonWolffeign death, shadowmeld is such a nice move
17:25.34hyperChipmunk>8)
17:25.34MoonWolfso many people fall for it in bg's
17:25.34CIA-1703hyperactiveChipmunk * r2556 10BigWigs/AQ40/Twins.lua:
17:25.34CIA-17BigWigs:
17:25.34CIA-17- Fixed typo (missing `then' on line 227 of AQ40/Twins.lua)
17:25.36MoonWolfthey think you released
17:25.39CIA-1703wobin * r2557 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Misc/PTEmbedElemMisc.lua: PeriodicTablePeriodicTable - Added Jungle Remedy to the potionall list
17:25.52hyperChipmunkit's awesome for getting through dungeons
17:26.06MoonWolfyeah, cause it allows you FD to cooldown again.
17:26.08hyperChipmunkI flop all the way to the dark forge
17:26.17WobinFD is awesome for getting through dungeons full stop =)
17:26.32MoonWolfbut shadowmeld makes it that more usefull
17:26.33Mikmaoh man i'm bored
17:26.35Wobinaye
17:26.47hyperChipmunkshadowmeld means it doesn't matter where you land
17:27.07CIA-1703thiana * r2558 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/: FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Set externals.
17:27.13hyperChipmunkyou can just eat/meld and move again once the FD is cooled down
17:28.36IndustrialMikma: do yo have a lv 19 char ?
17:28.41Industrialgo join WSG
17:28.41Industrial>:
17:28.42Industrial>:)
17:28.46MikmaIndustrial: mm no
17:28.50Mikmait's 17 :(
17:28.55Industrialmeh still join
17:29.00Industriali kik j00r 455
17:29.03Industrialkek
17:29.04Industrial:D
17:29.12Mikmai was planning on deleting my mage from pvp and making a ticket about it to gm
17:29.18Mikmajust to see do i get to keep my items
17:29.26IndustrialMikma: so you are really going to stop playing?
17:29.30Industrial:(
17:29.43IndustrialWhy not just make a guild and make friends
17:30.24MikmaIndustrial: well kinda have to since i don't have the money to buy prepaid
17:30.24Industriali mean
17:30.24Industrialjoin a guild
17:30.24IndustrialMikma: oh ic
17:30.24Mikmathen i will make bloodelf druid/priest/shaman
17:31.04hyperChipmunkgooal
17:31.20Tekkubso is the Bigwigs sync tested yet?
17:31.32hyperChipmunkI just fixed a typo
17:31.37Industrialim gunna make a female draenei paladin
17:32.33Mikmawhere in the hell can i found the classes for new races
17:33.00Industrialno new classes
17:33.06IndustrialWOW SUCKS in that aspect
17:33.12Industriali really dislike that
17:33.28Industrialshows howmuch they are scared of imbalanced classes
17:33.34MoonWolfi want GW class system
17:33.37MoonWolfwith two classes.
17:33.42Industrialand owuch their target audience is casual players
17:33.47Industrialhowmuch*
17:33.51Industriali want a daoc class system
17:33.56Industrial35 classes
17:33.57Industrial:P
17:34.05MoonWolf35 classes is just stupid
17:34.06MoonWolfsorry
17:34.11MoonWolfbut 35 is to much.
17:34.24Industrialyou play each one differently though
17:34.30Industrial(no really)
17:34.32MoonWolfits to much!
17:34.38Industrial*shrug*
17:34.44Industriali love it
17:34.49MoonWolfreally, even if they are all totally different.
17:34.49kergothconsidering how difficult it is for bliz to manage to balance these, i dont think i'd want to see how much itd suck ass playing with 35
17:35.02kergoth~remulate
17:35.03purlaww, my bees...
17:35.17MoonWolfmorning kergoth
17:35.20kergothhey
17:35.25kergothman, i was driving into work this morning
17:35.34Mikmai mean wtf is going on
17:35.38kergothbumped my lip ring, the bead pops out of the ring and falls
17:35.42kergothso now its in my car, somewhere
17:35.43Mikmawhy don't they put Druid for blood elfs
17:35.44kergothno idea where
17:35.52MoonWolfhehe
17:35.58MoonWolfdidnt know you had a lip piercing.
17:36.00kergothand its a damn 2 seater, little thing
17:36.07kergothcant exactly just put the seats forward
17:36.09MoonWolfits gone ker.
17:36.20kergothyea, most likely
17:36.59MoonWolfconsider yourself lucky, a friend of mine had to have this metal thingy cut out of his lip because it had grown into it.
17:37.39kergothack
17:37.47hyperChipmunkgg
17:37.53MoonWolfhe was pretty grumpy for a week or two.
17:38.35MoonWolfbesides, how expensive is a decent looking new ring ?
17:38.40MoonWolf10 dollars ?
17:39.17kergoththe one i got was more than that, but i might be able to replace the bead alone, will have to see
17:39.25kergothah well
17:39.26Industrialdoes lua have a random number?
17:39.31Industrialfunction*
17:39.40hyperChipmunkmath.random
17:39.43Industrialthanks
17:40.03hyperChipmunkrandom(100)
17:40.06hyperChipmunkin wow
17:40.15hyperChipmunkreturns an integer between 0 and 100
17:40.29hyperChipmunkwait, no
17:40.30hyperChipmunk1 and 100
17:40.33MoonWolfyeah, but that one is from the server.
17:40.40hyperChipmunkrandom(1) always returns 1
17:41.03hyperChipmunkyea, but that's what's in wow
17:41.10hyperChipmunkdo a /dump math.random(100)
17:41.53Industrial<PROTECTED>
17:41.55Industrialno worky?
17:42.12Industriali just need it in regular lua
17:42.14hyperChipmunkthat works too
17:42.22Industrialreturns  for me every time
17:42.26Industrial6
17:42.27Industrial*
17:42.33hyperChipmunkmath.random(2,5) returns something between 2 and 6
17:42.35hyperChipmunker, 5
17:42.59Industrialit returns 6 every time
17:43.17MoonWolfyour doing it wrong.
17:43.20kergoth"When called with two arguments, l and u, math.random returns a pseudo-random integer in the range [l,u]. The math.randomseed function sets a "seed" for the pseudo-random generator: Equal seeds produce equal sequences of numbers."
17:43.50Industrialwhats a randomseed >_>
17:44.02kergothread about random number generation.
17:44.08kergothwikipedia probably has the info you want
17:44.09hyperChipmunkit's a number supplied to the random number generating function
17:44.15MoonWolfhow the list of "random" numbers is generated
17:44.16Industrialno i just want some random numbers! lol
17:44.33hyperChipmunkwell, sometimes you want the same 'random' numbers, for testing purposes
17:44.36hyperChipmunkso you can supply your own seed
17:44.38MoonWolf<PROTECTED>
17:44.47Mikmahttp://www.blizzard.com/wow/images/screens/insider/020/comics/ss52.jpg
17:45.44Industrialkek
17:46.14hyperChipmunkbah, germany scored again
17:46.46MoonWolfhaha
17:46.52MoonWolfdie by the hands of germans!!
17:47.51WobinWhat's hte first match?
17:48.02hyperChipmunkGER vs. Costa Rica
17:48.08Mikmahttp://www.blizzard.com/wow/images/screens/insider/020/comics/ss40.jpg
17:48.15hyperChipmunk4-2 favoring germany now, in the 90th minute
17:48.55MoonWolfnobody cares about Costa Rica
17:49.16hyperChipmunkwould have been an upset though
17:49.46hyperChipmunkGO WH!
17:50.56MoonWolflol
17:51.13Wobinhehe
17:51.19WobinGermany out in the first round to CR?
17:51.25WobinYeah, that'd been a little bit of an upset =P
17:51.36MoonWolfthat would have been brilliant.
17:51.51MoonWolfand pretty much a distaster for most german cities and policemen.
17:51.53hyperChipmunkespecially since GER is the home team
17:52.03Wobinyeah =)
17:52.21hyperChipmunkwell, they wouldn't be 'out'; they're still in group play
17:52.31hyperChipmunkbut it'd still be pretty crazy
17:52.39MoonWolfbut still
17:52.42MoonWolfcosta rica.
17:53.01hyperChipmunkthey gave 'em a run
17:53.50MoonWolf~ponder
17:53.51purlI think so, but where will we find an open tattoo parlor at this time of night?
17:54.16Tekkubokey, I've made an official decition
17:54.38Tekkubwhen I put "Please direct all feedback to my portal" with a link in the first post/description...
17:54.38Ratbert_CPBuying a dictionary?
17:54.58TekkubI'm not going to even acknowledge or implement feature requests not put on my portal
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17:56.41hyperChipmunkRatbert_CP: /smirk
17:56.44Ratbert_CPStoopid Warmup...
17:57.12hyperChipmunkyea, someone said there was a bug brought up on the WoWAce forums' bulkmail thread
17:57.25hyperChipmunkI tought, 'there's a bulkmail thread on the wowace forums?'
17:57.32Tekkubheh
17:57.39MoonWolfYeah, i split it out of another one for you.
17:57.53Tekkubokey I'll be nice and remind people about my portal, I hate you guys
17:58.04hyperChipmunkway to inform me about that
17:59.31hyperChipmunkso do you have a link for me?
17:59.39MoonWolfnot atm
17:59.42MoonWolfin bg
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18:04.51Wobinhttp://static.flickr.com/49/137151559_592007885b_o.jpg
18:06.04TainI didn't do it.
18:06.43Ratbert_CPProve it.  :)
18:07.01TainI'm somewhat innocent until vaguely proven guilty.
18:08.50Ratbert_CPMaybe.  I'm still undecided on what point I should be considering regarding the potential question of any actions you may or may not have allegedly taken that impacted a hypothetical value of my semi-permeable feelings of self-worth and wellbeing.
18:10.15Tekkuberf
18:10.24Tekkubyou know what you need rat?
18:10.28TekkubDayQuill!
18:10.33TekkubI'm so happy right now!
18:10.48TekkubIt didn't do jack shit for my cold symptoms, but I don't care!!!!
18:10.55Ratbert_CP:)
18:11.41Mikmahttp://bitbasher.net/wow/g15wow.jpg
18:11.45Mikmago G15 + 1.11
18:12.04Tekkubqueue, wow, I must got a keyboard for that
18:12.20kergothMikma: sweet
18:12.28MikmaTekkub: do it so you can live properly
18:12.40Mikmahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.11_%28Release_Notes%29#Undocumented_Changes
18:13.11kergothi want to pick up http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2158,CONTENTID=10776
18:13.20kergoththe mx 5000 laser, the bluetooth setup
18:14.13Tekkuboreo?
18:16.30TainThere is neat stuff on the G15 with 1.11, but nothing I wanted really. :(
18:16.55TainOf course I know we're not going to get functions to program it outselves, so I never even asked.  But it's good to have something.
18:17.59Elkanocan anyone with HonorFu installed do a small test for me: disable it via its dropdown menu...
18:18.04ElkanoI'm getting: HonorFu.lua:220: GloryLib: Bad argument #2 to `UnregisterAll' (table expected, got nil)
18:18.12TainI have the MX laser mouse though, I love it.
18:18.15MoonWolfdisabled fine for me.
18:18.44kergoth"Temporary weapon buffs (such as poisons, enchanting oils, sharpening stones and Shaman weapon buffs) are no longer be removed when zoning. These buffs also persist when logged out." hooray
18:18.54Elkanohmpf...
18:19.58TainYeah that's awesome.
18:20.12TainI don't have to waste poison anymore.
18:20.18Elkanostrange... if I disable ExpFu afterwards, both are being disabled...
18:20.36kergoth"Vanish - cooldown removed." !
18:21.23Wobine
18:21.25Wobinto poisons
18:21.32Wobinand.. er
18:21.37WobinVanish cooldown wtf?
18:21.54Ratbert_CPVarnish cooldowns?
18:21.55WobinWe have a consumable FD?
18:21.58kergoththeres no way they'd change vanish like that, that wouldnt make any sense, itd totally fuck the balance
18:22.16Wobinyeah
18:22.23WobinCause... like... imba =P
18:22.52WobinI dunno if I like the 1.5second standupcooldown
18:24.04Wobin#  Ratchet - Talrendis Point
18:24.07Wobinhrm
18:24.19WobinFrom a newbie area to Azshara
18:29.22Mikmaumh, when has Iriel got his "semi-blue" posts? ;)
18:33.16Wobina month or two ago?
18:33.22WobinPlayers can no longer queue up other players with the deserter debuff for a battleground by forming a raid and having the leader in a different subgroup, and joining as a group.
18:33.23TainMaybe it's removing Vanish from the "universal cooldown"
18:33.36WobinI wonder how long it took someone to figure that one out =
18:35.39Mikmahttp://bitbasher.net/wow/dance/
18:36.08kloppethe vanish CD is just wiki trolling I think, didn't find anything about it in the post that page links to
18:36.19kloppeat least not a few weeks ago
18:36.39TainSamuel L. Jackson is the man.
18:36.40Tainhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coiwZxuBW78
18:37.00Mikmahehehehe this is funny http://bitbasher.net/wow/ghostbook.jpg
18:40.13hyperChipmunkI was mining in RP gear and a rogue ganked me...I beat him...I know I'm a GM, and all, but seriously...how sad is that?
18:41.44Mikmathat's.. sad
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18:46.48Mikmanice, blizz has updated their talent calculators
18:46.50hyperChipmunkI ended with 80% hp too
18:46.55Mikmahttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids/talents.html
18:47.19hyperChipmunkyea, you can't see a normal listing of talents anymore
18:47.24hyperChipmunkit's annoying
18:48.42Mikmahttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/priest/talents.html
18:48.51Mikmathere is a selection "old" and "updated"
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18:49.58Elkanotekkub, when I start a Metrognom timer, is the first tick direcly or after the set delay?
18:54.43kergoth"An addiction center is opening Europe's first detox clinic for game addicts, offering in-house treatment for people who can't leave their joysticks alone."
18:55.22hyperChipmunkO_o
18:56.39TainYeah saw that last night.
18:57.07TainGreat quote in one of the articles from someone saying, "It starts with a Gameboy, then on to..."
18:57.07TainGameboys are gateway drugs!
18:57.10kergothhehe
18:57.17WobinIt's a SLIPPERY SLOPE
19:06.32Mikmamuaah
19:06.33Mikma.___.
19:06.33Mikma{O,o} O RLY?
19:06.33Mikma/)__)
19:06.33Mikma-"-"-
19:08.16Tekkubelk, no
19:08.32Tekkubfirst tick come rate seconds after start
19:08.40Tekkubor next onupdate if no rate
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19:10.26Elkanook... I'm trying to fix HonorFu's BattlegroundMinimap not showing for me and I noticed that the Metrognome timer isn't started when you enter the battleground... most likely because GloryLib doesn't know it's bg yet :/
19:12.07Tekkub:P
19:13.04kergothwhat does honorfu do with the battleground minimap?
19:13.21Elkanoseems like GetRealZoneText() isn't working correctly yet when PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fires
19:13.32hyperChipmunkit makes it open all over the place
19:13.40hyperChipmunkexcept in bgs
19:13.44hyperChipmunkand you can't turn it off!
19:16.35Elkanowell, I'm tweaking it so it will open it on entering BG but will not force it open (I think ck simply forgot to stop the timer)
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19:20.53Elkanohow to print out a boolean? bool and "true" or "false" ?
19:22.05hyperChipmunktostring it?
19:23.39hyperChipmunkecuador goal!
19:23.44hyperChipmunkgo west coast!
19:23.47hyperChipmunker, hemisphere!
19:23.50hyperChipmunkawesome goal
19:27.03*** join/#wowace KyleFurlong (i=KyleFurl@SRF-12-046.resnet.ucsb.edu)
19:27.10KyleFurlongWOW
19:27.14KyleFurlongHello WoW devs!
19:27.33KyleFurlongdidnt know Ace was so popular ^_^
19:27.42kergothhey, you use D too?
19:27.47KyleFurlonglol yes
19:27.51KyleFurlongyeah
19:28.03KyleFurlonghaving some Ace issues though
19:28.09Wobinhehe, What's up?
19:28.09kergothwhat issues?
19:28.13KyleFurlongbut I'm sure they are noobie things
19:28.56KyleFurlonghttp://ace.pastebin.com/770614
19:29.20KyleFurlongyields the error: Ace.lua:150
19:29.54KyleFurlongattempt to index local `globals` (a nil value)
19:29.54hyperChipmunkO-o
19:29.57KyleFurlongyeah
19:30.06hyperChipmunklocal globals np
19:30.48KyleFurlong?
19:31.05KyleFurlongAny thoughts? Glaring inconsistencies?
19:32.22ThraeKyleFurlong: GAH gives "" for its only option. That'd probably be a problem.
19:32.42KyleFurlonghow does one bind the empty command?
19:33.11KyleFurlongor is that impossible with Ace?
19:33.39ThraeKyleFurlong: Ace isn't built that way, you'd have to just use the old SLASHCOMMANDLIST.
19:33.51ThraeAce excepts you to have more then one slash command ;)
19:33.56KyleFurlonglol okay
19:34.23KyleFurlongI'll see what adding a string there does
19:35.10kergothi should teach the bot some firefly quotes
19:36.16kergoth~emulate mal is <reply> If your hand touches metal, I swear by my pretty flowered bonnet, I will end you.
19:36.17purlokay, kergoth
19:36.53Wobin~emulate jayne is <reply>... I'll be in my bunk...
19:36.54purlWobin: okay
19:36.59ElkanoOK, hC, glory:IsInBattlegrounds() shouldn't be called right after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD :/ got to note ck about that :/
19:38.06Elkanofor me it took 4sec until GetRealZoneText() was returning the actual zone :/
19:38.11hyperChipmunkyea
19:38.28hyperChipmunkthat's why I can't fill node info at the start
19:39.15Elkanowell, I've changed honorfu to check GetRealZoneText() via timer until it returns sth
19:39.18kergothpurl: no, emulate jayne is <reply>... I'll be in my bunk... || <reply> Not as deceiving as a low down dirty ... deceiver. || <reply> Looks like we got some imminent violence!
19:39.21purlokay, kergoth
19:39.31Wobin||?
19:39.36Wobin~emulate jayne
19:39.37purlNot as deceiving as a low down dirty ... deceiver.
19:39.41Wobinoh good =)
19:39.50Wobin~emulate jayne
19:39.51purlNot as deceiving as a low down dirty ... deceiver.
19:39.55kergothhehe
19:40.00Thrae|| <-- c-style 'or'
19:40.03Wobin~emulate jayne
19:40.04purlNot as deceiving as a low down dirty ... deceiver.
19:40.07Wobin...
19:40.08kergoth..
19:40.09Wobin=(
19:40.13kergoth~emulate jayne
19:40.14purlNot as deceiving as a low down dirty ... deceiver.
19:40.17kergoth...
19:40.19WobinNINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE
19:40.20kergothpurl: bad bot
19:40.22purlBad bot, bad! No cookie for you!
19:40.36kergoth~emulate jayne
19:40.37purl... I'll be in my bunk...
19:40.39kergothfinally.
19:40.41hyperChipmunkgood bot
19:40.42Wobinphew
19:41.01Thrae~emulate jayne
19:41.02purlLooks like we got some imminent violence!
19:41.15ThraeLooks like the world is back to being random agani.
19:41.26kergothhooray
19:41.28WobinActually I wanted to put in the "Dear Diary, Today my crazy sister and I got kidnapped by hillpeople" one, but I can't recall the exact quite
19:41.30Wobinquote
19:41.54kergothpurl: no, emulate jayne is <reply>... I'll be in my bunk... || <reply> Not as deceiving as a low down dirty ... deceiver. || <reply> Looks like we got some imminent violence! || <reply> "Dear Diary, Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy." "Today, we were kidnapped by hill folk never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."
19:41.56purlokay, kergoth
19:42.04Wobinwhee
19:42.06hyperChipmunkToday, I was pompous and my sister was crazy.  We got kidnapped by hillfolk, never to be seen again.  It was the best day ever.
19:42.09kergoth:D
19:42.10ckknighthey.
19:42.18hyperChipmunkawesome
19:42.26hyperChipmunkI got it exactly right from memory =)
19:42.38Industrialkergoth: pm
19:43.06kergothBook: "What are we up to, sweetheart?"
19:43.06kergothRiver: "Fixing your Bible."
19:43.06kergothBook: "I, um...(alarmed)...what?"
19:43.07kergothRiver: "Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logistics - doesn't make sense." (she's marked up the bible, crossed out passages)
19:43.33Wobin~emulate wash is <reply>Yeah, we should start dealing in those black market beagles.
19:43.35purlokay, Wobin
19:43.45KyleFurlongNope, still returning the same error.
19:44.01WobinAre you using Iriel's devtools?
19:44.10KyleFurlongWho? What?
19:44.33WobinGrab Iriel's devtools from WoWI, very handy set of functions
19:44.46Wobinyou can /dump tables to the chatframe
19:44.48KyleFurlongokay
19:45.01KyleFurlongwhat would you like to to dump once I have it?
19:45.01Wobinor use DevTools_Dump() in your code
19:45.21WobinGah
19:45.30WobinJust to see how far it's getting in the setting up
19:45.36Wobinbefore falling over
19:48.00Wobinkergoth: http://www.thechicagoloop.net/tzikeh/leaf.gif
19:48.42kergothaww
19:48.45kergothhehe
19:49.16KyleFurlonghuh its working except for that error though
19:49.37CIA-1703wobin * r2559 10PlowKing/ (. PlowKing.lua PlowKing.toc PlowKingLocals.lua):
19:49.37CIA-17PlowKing - PT subcategories added to Consumable and Tradegoods. Suggestions welcome.
19:49.37CIA-17- Will now remerge categories after a couple of seconds so as not to clutter things up.
19:55.04IndustrialWhat forms does druid have for action buttons?
19:55.10Industrialhuman, bear, cat ?
19:55.16hyperChipmunkwalrus
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19:55.19hyperChipmunkand travel
19:55.25Industrialthose have actions?
19:55.32hyperChipmunkoh i duno
19:55.58Industrialwanna minimize the allocation of buttons :P
19:56.13IndustrialI have 3 for druid, 3 for warrior and 2 for rogue
19:56.22Industrialdifferent forms
19:56.35Industrialoh and probably 2 for priest
19:57.02Wobin2 for rogue?
19:57.06Wobinoh normal
19:57.28hasterogues usually have one tho' :o0
19:57.39Wobinnormal, bear, cat, travel
19:57.52Wobinrogues use Shapeshift(1) =P
19:58.00hastewhy have a key for normal?
19:58.44CIA-1703tekkub * r2560 10BigWigs/Comm.lua:
19:58.44CIA-17BigWigs - Added throttle code to the Comm module. To register a message for
19:58.44CIA-17throttling fire off a "BIGWIGS_SYNC_THROTTLE" event with args msg, time. Time
19:58.44CIA-17is in seconds. If time is nil the throttle is erased. This will supress repeat
19:58.44CIA-17events from firing for x seconds after the first one does.
19:59.25Industrialim making a 'shape bar'
19:59.32Industrialso im counting normal as a shape
19:59.58kergothwhats wrong with the existing shapeshift bar/
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20:00.31hyperChipmunkit's not cluttered enough for an id mod
20:00.43Industrial~whack hyperChipmunk
20:00.45purlACTION whacks hyperChipmunk upside the head.
20:00.57hyperChipmunkhey, I calls 'em as I sees 'em
20:01.09Industrialyous sees 'em cluttered?
20:01.50Industrialkergoth: because its a part of an addon with more bars
20:10.03ckknight~moredots
20:10.04purlmore dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!
20:11.15Tekkub~hot dickings
20:11.16purlJUST GIVING EM OUT!
20:11.17Wobin~moredots
20:11.19purlleft side! even side!
20:11.48Wobin~jayne
20:11.53Wobin~emulate jayne
20:11.54purlNot as deceiving as a low down dirty ... deceiver.
20:12.06ckknightwhat's that from, Wobin?
20:12.15hyperChipmunkFirefly pilot
20:12.19WobinFirefly =)
20:12.20hyperChipmunkoh, wait
20:12.23hyperChipmunkno, it was Out of Gas
20:12.28ckknight~literal moredots
20:12.30purl"moredots" is "<reply>(hit it like you mean it!|50 dkp minus!|handle it!|left side! even side!|you lose 50 dkp again!|more dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!|dps very, very slowly - I mean f*cking slow)"
20:12.47ckknightpurl, no moredots is <reply>(hit it like you mean it!|50 dkp minus!|handle it!|left side! even side!|you lose 50 dkp again!|more dots, more dots, throw more dots, okay, stop dots!|dps very, very slowly - I mean f*cking slow|get to the center!)
20:12.48purlckknight: okay
20:13.00ckknight~moredots
20:13.02purlget to the center!
20:15.28CIA-1703wobin * r2561 10PlowKing/ (Bindings.xml PlowKing.lua): PlowKing - Added Bindings.xml for keybind
20:16.51hyperChipmunk!
20:16.58hyperChipmunkand there was much rejoicing
20:17.14hyperChipmunkyou didn't change the TOC?
20:17.46WobinShould I have?
20:18.01WobinBindings.xml works independant of the toc
20:18.09hyperChipmunkneat, i didn't know that
20:18.32WobinOh, and thank Thiana
20:18.48WobinI didn't actually write =)
20:18.49Wobinit
20:18.53ThianaMeep?
20:19.11hyperChipmunkheh, I was going to write my own, too; turned out I was too lazy though
20:19.12ThianaIf it works I take all the credit, if it does it's Wobin's fault. Just wrote it after looking at the code for 2 seconds.
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20:19.28hyperChipmunkbleh, still need to restart wow
20:19.40WobinI just changed some syntax to make it show up with a header
20:19.49Hakkerdoes anyone know the exact rss link?
20:19.52Wobindue to weirdness with Bindings
20:19.57WobinHakker: For?
20:20.09HakkerI need it including the xml file
20:20.12Hakkersvn
20:20.17Wobinhttp://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/Ace/.rss
20:20.54Wobin(I like the CIA one. It's prettier, and doesn't use our system at all =P)
20:22.18Hakkeranyone familiar with samurize by any chance?
20:22.34hyperChipmunkhm
20:22.38hyperChipmunkdoesn't work
20:24.18ThianaThe binding? It should, IsVisible() is inherited by all frames.
20:24.32hyperChipmunkdoesn't work as in doesn't show up
20:24.58WobinThe binding doesn't show up?
20:25.02WobinOr the frames don't show up?
20:25.03ThianaOh. Maybe it's like a toc change, you need to restart wow?
20:25.30hyperChipmunkI did restart wow
20:25.39hyperChipmunkthere's no listing in Key Bindings
20:27.12Tekkubokey, it's official... of the 5 top hunter in my guild 4 have left
20:27.20Tekkubthe one left is the one that caused the loot drama
20:27.25Tekkubfuck this shit
20:27.30TekkubI want a good guild
20:27.36Tekkubtaking bids now
20:27.52hyperChipmunk<Cow Level Battlemaster> is always lookign for more
20:27.59MoonWolfLFM 10 new guild
20:28.03TekkubI'll roll whatever non-melee class is needed most, prefer healer
20:28.14Tekkuband no PvP, open to RP tho
20:28.25MoonWolfget a european account
20:28.26Tekkuband I need someone to do with me or I'll never level
20:28.34MoonWolfmy soon to be created premade needs s druid.
20:28.34hyperChipmunkthe group I raid with is looking for a hunter
20:28.34Tekkubget me a euro copy :)
20:28.37ThianaHmm, is 'name' case sensitive in bindings xml? It's 'Name' in the plowking one.
20:28.52TekkubhC: I'm a shitty hunter
20:28.54TainI used to use Samurize, Hakker.  I recently went to look at it again and realized I forgot everything I knew.
20:28.55TekkubI can't pull for shit
20:28.57kergothi'm in The Grownup Guild on suramar, laid back guild that focuses on maturity in its members
20:29.01TekkubI'm bad at traps
20:29.15Tekkubfoobar!
20:29.22kergothfoobar2000 is god
20:29.27MoonWolfi have no idea how that song ended up in my playlost
20:29.28MoonWolflist*]
20:29.33MoonWolfbut its funny as hell.
20:29.43MoonWolfyeah
20:29.49Tekkubkerg, are they all like you?
20:29.49MoonWolfi missed it when i was running suse
20:29.56TainHunters are the best to play for big raids though, if you're not pulling.
20:29.57TekkubI can bearly handle one of you
20:30.03MoonWolfhehe
20:30.09TainJust sit back and fire away from well out of damage range.
20:30.16Tekkubyea Tain, but I miss being a healer honestly
20:30.25Wobinkergoth: horde or alliance?
20:30.26MoonWolfkergoth isnt that bad.
20:30.36TekkubONE kerg isn't that bad
20:30.41Tekkub40 kergs?
20:30.43Tekkub*cry*
20:30.48kergothhaha, no, they arent like me at all
20:30.58Tekkubthey're worse? shit
20:30.59TainThere's just some people who want to be healers.  They should be encouraged to never, ever play anything else.
20:31.08kergothwe just attempted a merge and had to completely revert, booted jsut about everyone involved due to childishness and cursing and such in the guild chat
20:31.17kergothWobin: horde
20:31.28Tekkubuhm, I curse my ass off if at all possible
20:31.38Tekkubyou know how I is here, no diff in guild if I can manage it
20:31.45TainThe only way I can even stomach my guild is the fact that there's 5-6 of us who have our own channel and make fun of the rest of the guild all night long.
20:31.53kergothhah
20:31.55Wobinhuh
20:32.00WobinI have a 'lock on DaPlayas
20:32.02Tekkubhehe tain, that's like the hunters were
20:32.09Tekkubwe were our own lil clique
20:32.12MoonWolfthere is a difference between childish and yust cursing a lot.
20:32.14Tekkubno DKP system...
20:32.17TainIt's really bad, but the rest of them never know.
20:32.22Tekkubbut then this shit happened
20:32.55WobinBut I haven't logged into Suramar for at least 3 months
20:33.19Tekkubkerg, you guys an active raiding guild?
20:33.32Tekkubsame Q to you hC
20:34.35kergothyeah, need more 60s though.  afaik we usually run MC with another guild rather than just ourselves.  do zg regularly.  never done bwl or anything.  usually raid weekly
20:34.49Hakkerthe my main problem is with a module for samurize ;)
20:34.55kergothWobin: hah, cool. i left the server for many months myself, but ended up missing my old guild
20:34.59Hakkerso not even the program itself i guess
20:35.21Hakkerbtw tekkub you don't wanna play on euro servers
20:35.29Hakkertestrealms are nerfed
20:35.35kergothi loved the guild i ran before this one.  named it Naked And Famous
20:35.43kergoth(after the presidents of the USA song)
20:35.57kergothstill own nakedandfamous.org, such a great domain, dunno what to do with it though
20:36.01kergoth:)
20:36.16kergothHakker: nerfed? how so?
20:36.35Tekkubhrm... sounds like what I need kerg, a guild starting raiding fresh, not joining an up and going guild
20:36.38Hakkernubs walking around with lvl 60 chars
20:36.45Hakkerlike wow I got asscandy
20:36.54Tekkubnow I just need a leveling partner HINT HINT HINT
20:37.04Hakkerand don't give a damn why the testrealm is meant for
20:38.04hyperChipmunk2-0 ecuador O_o
20:38.18kergothHakker: :(
20:38.21Wobineuc vs?
20:38.38kergothhmmm... guess i could start another alt.  been trying to get my new mage to 60 lately
20:38.45hyperChipmunkPOL
20:38.48Tekkubwhat level be it?
20:39.05CIA-1703wobin * r2562 10PlowKing/ (Bindings.xml PlowKing.lua): PlowKing - Fixed the binding
20:39.07Hakkerand support for high lvl guilds is horrendus
20:39.10kergoththe mage? 34 currently
20:39.21Wobinooh
20:39.23Tekkubhrm... we can catch up quickly if we try
20:39.25WobinI could start another shammy
20:39.37Tekkubor wobble works
20:39.46Wobinor a lock
20:39.47TekkubI just need someone who will force me to level
20:39.51TainI'm levelling up on Ysera, one of the brand new servers.
20:39.57WobinI dunno if I have the time though =)
20:40.04WobinI'm focused a lot on my current realm
20:41.16kergothwonder what class i'd make if i start a new one
20:41.36Tekkubjust made a drood
20:42.13Hakkerwell you could always end up on Bloodscalp EU ;) it's like more or less a Hungarian server now. Maygar Vagy anyone?
20:42.32kergothhmmm
20:42.40kergotha hunter would work, i liked the one o i have another server
20:43.02Hakkerit's like Horde turned more evil there while your alliance ;)
20:43.49kergothonly thing that can get annoying on suramar is the fact that the horde are outnumbered 2 to 1.  course that means not waiting long for bg .. at least certain level ranges
20:44.05Tekkubtauren hunter kerg?
20:44.12Elkanoman, when looking at these scripts there's something inside myself whishing that the person who once shot my prof with a muzzle-loader pistol had better aim :/
20:44.12Hakkerthat's a change...
20:44.15WobinYou just want to follow the cowarse =P
20:44.34Hakkermost servers are like 1,5:1 and higher in Hords favor
20:44.47hyperChipmunkHakker: you've got it backwards
20:44.51WobinSeems the other way around on a lot of US servers
20:44.58hyperChipmunkthere are maybe two servers with more horde than alliance
20:45.04kergothTekkub: hmm, i'm not sure on class.  trolls get the boost to bows.. orcs get pet damage.. war stomp & health is always good too
20:45.11kergother, s/class/race/
20:45.14kergothsilly fingers
20:45.18Tekkuband tauren are secksy
20:45.20TainMost of the US servers the Alliance is 2 to 1 over Horde.
20:45.27hyperChipmunkmy server is 2.35:1
20:45.29hyperChipmunkA:H
20:45.44TekkubhC... theatrical widescreen!
20:45.48Elkanohmm, tekkub, you're playing on EU?
20:45.49hyperChipmunk=D
20:45.54Tekkubno, US elk
20:46.15Tekkubwell Kerg, I'm in on a druid
20:46.19Tekkubsee if you can find me
20:46.25Elkanoso little dev people I know that play EU :( and (almost) none on my servers :(
20:46.55WobinShould I start a Shammy?
20:47.18kergothhehe, i will when i get home.. its only 2pm here :)
20:47.21Tekkubif it's tauren :)
20:47.26Wobinnatch
20:47.29Tekkubdamnit kerg
20:47.31kergoth:P
20:47.47WobinSuramar?
20:47.51TekkubI'm dancing naked at the tauren birth-in point just for you
20:47.55Tekkubyea wob
20:48.14kergothwonder if i can get that rare white bat from tirisfal, i like that one
20:48.34hyperChipmunkEric the Fruit Bat
20:48.41Tekkubcamp that leaping lizzy!
20:49.03HakkerTrollbane is more a PVE than a PVP server nowadays.... due to the heavy raiding
20:49.06Elkanomost low-level horde  hunters use thet 1.2 attspeed cat from Mulgore, don't they?
20:49.12WobinNow I have to think of a name
20:49.24TekkubI got names you can use Wob
20:49.26Tekkublesse...
20:49.34TekkubAilurus (red panda)
20:49.52Tekkuboh I have a good one one sec
20:49.56WobinRunsWithCows
20:50.05Hakkerbones for your undead char
20:50.23WobinDancesWithGhostWolves
20:50.31TekkubKumanoinkei
20:50.32Wobindamnit too long
20:50.40Tekkubit's japaneese for "Penis of the bear"
20:50.40hyperChipmunkUmpahpahpowcow
20:50.54hyperChipmunkHero of BulkMail
20:50.58Hakkerbillybones
20:51.04WobinOompaLoompa
20:51.07TekkubMongalka, Quinacridone, Alizarian
20:51.16TekkubWuffi :)
20:51.16TainUnfunf
20:51.23hyperChipmunkHoofhearted
20:51.25WobinUnfy
20:51.32Hakkerroflmao
20:51.33TekkubUrsa, Ursus, Girth (my fav)
20:51.44WobinSnuffleupagus
20:51.48HakkerStupid
20:51.55WobinI'mWithstupid
20:51.56TekkubFuzzbutt
20:51.59hyperChipmunkhaha
20:52.07Hakkerhad one running around on Bloodscalp
20:52.13HakkerKnight Stupid
20:52.22TekkubNunuvit
20:52.47TekkubUsda
20:52.55Tekkubuhm....
20:52.56HakkerGimped
20:52.59WobinI'd make a druid, and be in bear form purely to either name myself 'choochoo' or 'fuzzywuzzy'
20:53.16HakkerFozzy
20:53.18Hakkerthen
20:53.19TekkubI went with Huslu
20:53.25Tekkubit means hairy bear :)
20:53.28Tekkuband yes, druid
20:53.30WobinBut I'm a shammy
20:53.38TekkubChamois
20:53.43WobinDon't really like playing druids
20:53.47WobinLove it! =)
20:53.50Tekkub:)
20:54.02WobinDamnit unavialable
20:54.05Tekkubkek
20:54.09TekkubCham?
20:54.17Hakkermade a paladin called Mulder and created some weird stuff in Ascend ;)
20:54.37WobinSeamus
20:54.38Hakkerhe blabs about alien conspiracies and all that stuff :P
20:55.14Hakkergonna turn them into gnomes though because pissing off gnomes is kewl
20:56.12Tekkubkerg, who in your guild should we harass for invites?
20:56.46Hakkerhttp://www.xs4all.nl/~cmsmidt/wow/jaws.jpg They are remaking jaws in AQ40 ;)
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20:57.33kergothTekkub: lets see.. any officer will do.. abyssal is the GM, megabandit is an officer, zamboni is one, traxz is.. any of them on at the moment?
20:57.50Hakkerzamboni...hahaha
20:58.13Tekkub*checks*
20:58.39Tekkubnope
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20:59.39WobinWhat's the guildname?
21:00.23wereHamsterany chance I could get a bit of free space on the ace svn server to develop my addons?
21:01.20Hakkeroh well gonna lvl my alt fury warrior Terrytate
21:01.35Slaymanlook whos here
21:02.46Tekkubsomething about grownups
21:03.06TekkubwH email clad, there's a thread on the forum
21:06.03kergothguild name is The Grownup Guild
21:07.06hasteokey, I'm really... really... starting to hate: ati + linux
21:07.18WobinEyedolise, Emerelda, Tarhoof, Shandalar
21:07.23Wobinare the only 60s for the guild on
21:07.59Tekkubbeerusa, clockwork, emerelda, eyedolize Korintheia
21:08.28Tekkubmugriss naze negaduck nethariel
21:08.43Tekkubprottyenemy rajnar rexholn
21:08.52Tekkubshandalar and tarhoof
21:08.55Tekkubthat's it :)
21:09.05kergotheye is an officer
21:09.24kergothif you want, let me know that you know beyoterk, thats my main
21:09.30kergothor vichon, my mage
21:10.31hastehmm: x11-drm [not installed] << THAT might explain why I don't have dri support ;D
21:10.45kergothhehe
21:10.55hasteXorg 7 is making me confused
21:11.03hasteso many modules :(
21:11.09hasteso much has changed from 6.8
21:11.26hasteand I replaced fluxbox with gnome now :o
21:11.32kergoth*gasp*
21:11.35hyperChipmunkew
21:11.44kergothactually current gnome is damn nice, lots of improvements
21:11.48kergothstill heavier than i prefer though
21:12.04hasteI'm suprised myself
21:12.47Tekkubwheee!
21:13.14hastestill mesa glx :(
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21:24.39Ratbert_CPTekkub: Re: WoWI bug report-- I was using the WoWI version.  SVN version works.
21:31.19Tekkubyarr
21:31.25Tekkubthought so
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21:54.13hastehttp://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general-en&T=1048472&P=1
22:04.44kergothTekkub: you and wobin playin?
22:05.08Wobinyep
22:05.16kergothi'm surprised at how much perl i actually remember
22:05.21kergothand i remember why i hate using it
22:05.25kergothegad is it ugly
22:05.27Mikmahaste: checking out that house now
22:05.32Mikmait really has some spooky musics
22:05.51hastehttp://media.putfile.com/CreepyGoldshire << same music?
22:06.55snurrelol, that thing is such a hype atm :p
22:07.10Mikmayeap
22:07.12Mikmathe same music
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22:08.08hasteI hope it's my laptop fucking
22:08.13hastesince it's semi-static here :p
22:08.24hastescary windy sound + static
22:08.37hastesounds like some old horror flick
22:08.45Mikmai disabled all other sounds except music
22:08.45hasteor the sound used in the Rubber Johnny clip
22:10.13CIA-1703ratbert * r2563 10/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
22:10.13CIA-17BagBoy: Removed BagBoyUtils.lua, since I've embedded AbacusLib and CrayonLib
22:10.13CIA-17Added some sanity checking to BagBoyGUI.lua
22:10.13CIA-17QuartermasterLib: Made added values on-demand
22:11.47CIA-1703ratbert * r2564 10QuartermasterLib/Lib/QuartermasterLib.lua: QuartermasterLib: Made added values on-demand
22:12.00snurrefunny that they have been there so long, but no talk about it since now
22:20.01hastepeople only explore when they are bored :p
22:30.03TekkubKERG!
22:30.10Tekkubgiev us moniezzzzz!
22:34.05kergothi will when i get home, i have 930g at the moment and a fair bit tied up in AH investments
22:34.38Industrialo_O
22:36.43Tekkubyea we need bags BAAAAAD
22:36.56Tekkuband twinky gear will help us level fast ^^
22:37.34WobinCrazy man =)
22:37.37TekkubI'd like a [Leather Jerkin of the Bear]
22:37.42Tekkub(yes, real item)
22:37.57Ratbert_CPAre you sure it isn't the Leather Chaps of the Bear?  ;)
22:38.16Tekkubthey might exist too
22:38.24Tekkubbut jerkin... oh yea
22:38.25Ratbert_CPOr Leather Bear for the Chaps?  ;)
22:38.44snurrehttp://youtube.com/watch?v=5I0U4P9Imis&feature=Views&page=5&t=t&f=b lol
22:39.34Industriallol
22:39.37IndustrialBOB SAGET!
22:39.42ckknight_back
22:40.07ckknight_my face is numb
22:40.19MoonWolfwhat did you do ?
22:40.24ckknight_got fillings
22:40.27ckknight_from the dentist
22:40.30MoonWolfhehe
22:40.43ckknightit's okay
22:40.48ckknightit's halfway numb now
22:40.54MoonWolfim not a fan of sedation myself
22:40.54ckknightbut I'm hungry
22:41.02MoonWolfonly got sedated when i needed a tooth pulled
22:41.05ckknightbut I can't eat
22:41.12ckknightI didn't get sedated
22:41.17ckknightlocal anasthetic
22:41.37MoonWolfthats what i mean, medical terms arent really somethi i use a lto in english.
22:41.47MoonWolfi need my bed.
22:41.58Ratbert_CPTwenty, twenty, twenty four hours ago-o-ho...  I wanna be sedated!
22:42.46Ratbert_CPNothin' to do, no where to go-o-ho... I wanna be sedated!
22:48.19ckknighthehe
22:49.41Industrialhttp://youtube.com/watch?search=bob+saget&v=BfRJSmrQSDk
22:49.43Industrialgotta love it
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22:50.54Mikma;)
22:52.27Industrialthen log in
22:52.27Industrial:P
22:52.29Industrialwirth it imo
22:52.32Industrialworth it too
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22:53.22KyahxWhy do I have to send a message to the NickServ every time I log in =/
22:53.45Industrialbecause thats logging in
22:53.51Industrialand because you leave
22:53.54Industrialand
22:53.54Industrial42
22:53.58Industrial*badoom tisc*
22:54.02Industrialh
22:54.11Kyahxhmmm
22:54.15Hakkerhaste that Goldshire stuff was made for 06/06/06 :) well I had horns comming out of my skull
22:54.39Industrialand once again the link the pentagram to satan
22:54.45Industrialthey*
22:56.04Hakker:P
22:56.27Hakkerwho said anything about satan
23:01.01ckknightc[:-)---{----<
23:04.35cladhairewereHamster: HAHAHAHA you're hilarious =)
23:09.41wereHamsterwhy?
23:09.49hyperChipmunkpfft
23:11.11hasteI think my computer hates me :(
23:11.24hasteit doesn't want to use DRI
23:12.11wereHamsterproprietary drivers is the way to go ;)
23:16.11TainEven though I wasn't paying close enough attention using this oven for the first time, this is a damn tasty pizza, burnt crust and all.
23:18.07hasteI blame Xorg 7 :p
23:19.10Tekkubwheeeee
23:20.47CIA-1703ckknight 07ckknight * r2565 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - push GetLibraryVersion() onto registered libs.
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23:23.38Syzxwhat's the mod called that shows UI memory usage and shows up under the FPS when you press Alt+R?
23:25.22CIA-1703ckknight 07TestSuite * r2566 10AceLibrary/LibraryVersioning-8.lua: AceLibrary/TestSuite - added LibraryVersioning-8.lua
23:27.51hyperChipmunkgood evening kael
23:28.44Wobinhokay
23:28.46Wobingoing to nap
23:28.48Wobinbbl
23:29.07Tekkub^^
23:30.11Syzxno-one for the UI memory usage mod? :(
23:30.34Industriali use AceGcInfo
23:30.59Tekkubhey kael, does KCI fire an event when it's done scanning AH and all the prices have been updated?
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