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00:01.25kergothugh, i hate getting new ranks of water, and yet i love it
00:01.31kergothmaking them 2 at a time is a serious pain though :)
00:01.44Gngskheh yah
00:04.41Temkergoth: I made water at 4 a stack for *months*
00:05.51kergoth:\
00:10.11kergothTem, what build did you end up deciding on for 1.11?  /me is trying to choose
00:10.26kergoththe new version of winter's chill looks quite nicew
00:10.27kergoths/w$//
00:10.40TemI haven't finalized it, but I'm pretty certain on what I'm going to grab
00:11.05TemI haven't even tried a fire spec yet, but I can't imagine not having the new Ice Barrier
00:11.08Temit's *that* good
00:11.59Temhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent/?kbxA00bZZVVGcoftho
00:12.35TemI had someone create a lvl1 horde to send me a tell after a WSG game to compliment me
00:12.46Temaparently the entire other team was scared of me
00:12.59Tem*Including* the warlocks!
00:14.05kergothhahash
00:14.07kergoths/sh/h/
00:14.16kergothhmm, whats your opinion on elemental precision?
00:14.33kergoththinking it might help when grinding against mobs a few levels above me
00:15.44TemI don't completely understand the resist system
00:15.50Tembut that would help with that
00:15.52TemI think
00:17.49hyperChipmunkthere's an official writeup on it
00:19.04hyperChipmunkhttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/resistances.html
00:19.10hyperChipmunkit's quite detailed
00:20.27kergothah
00:21.58Temkergoth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=952187&p=1&tmp=1#post952187
00:34.46kergothhmm, interesting.  think it would be useful then
00:36.37TemDepends heavily on your spec, I think
00:36.44Mikmai like icemages
00:37.12Mikmai leveled my mage as arcane, but then i turned into ice and have been ice eversince
00:37.54Mikmayeah and haven't played with it for like 7 months
00:38.05kergothTem, nod.  he says that to hit acts like spell penetration for non-binary spells. so i presume itd be more useful for a primarily frost spec than otherwise
00:38.13kergothice does seem fun, at least so far. i'm only 30 :)
00:38.22TemI heart it
00:38.45kergoththinking i might grab the blizzard slow talent as well for aoe grinding, at least until i'm 60
00:38.46kergothhmm
00:39.18kergothi hate this hotel. 90% of the time the air conditioner doesnt work, and when it does, it works overtime and freezes us
00:40.31snurrehotel o.O
00:41.27kergothextended stay, havent gotten the cash together to get an apartment yet
00:41.31kergothrecently moved
00:42.59kergothTem, out of curiosity, why improved cone of cold? i always saw it as primarily useful for control, not for its damage.  was thinking of putting points in the new winter's chill instead (5 points = 100% chance to apply the effect)
00:43.25Tembecause it crits for 1k when you put points in it
00:43.39Temand frost crits are easy to manufacture
00:43.41Mikmayeah
00:43.48CIA-1703wobin * r2195 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow - Fixed a bug with the stackstyle toggle
00:43.50kergothah
00:43.51kergothcool
00:43.57Mikmaand it usually crits 1k+ to all in the area, which is pretty awesome
00:44.08Mikmafrostnmova + CoC
00:44.10Wobinmanufacture?
00:44.14kergoththat is nice.  shatter is sufficient to get high crits normally i presume?
00:44.31Temyeah
00:44.49Tembut you *must* *MUST* have shatter and ice shards
00:45.04Temand if you plan on doing any pvp, you need frostbite
00:45.34TemTekcub: I need a name for my item tracking
00:45.34Mikmaimp blizz is nice on grinding
00:45.41TemI never found it useful
00:45.49TemI prefer rank 1 frostbolts
00:46.05Tembut it's certainly doable
00:46.08Mikmawhaaaat?
00:46.17Mikmahaven't you ever had massive damage with imp blizz?
00:46.37Mikmafrostnova + imp blizz = ouch
00:46.47Temmeh
00:46.54Temit's pretty nice in WSG when you can time it right
00:46.59Tembut I can't find points for it
00:47.03WobinTem: RememberThe Milk =P
00:47.05Mikmayeah that's the problem
00:47.26TainI haven't played my Mage in probably over a year, but I also went one point frostbite
00:47.27Mikmai looked your build and was wondering about the same thing, no points for imp blizz
00:47.29TemWobin: this isn't a TODO list
00:48.25Mikmawell... 3 off from magic absorption and 2 off from imp counterspell :P but then you'll lose silence
00:48.38Wobinhm maybe I should start playing my mage more
00:48.53hyperChipmunkWobin: maybe you should start finishing plowking
00:48.57kergothhmmm
00:49.18WobinhyperChipmunk: Bah, incidentals =P
00:49.22*** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com)
00:49.46Mikmahey, how can this be useful? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full2829.jpg
00:49.49WobinMy GM wants me to write a zerosum nurfeddkp tracker addon
00:49.59*** join/#wowace steino (n=stein-iv@c510083A9.inet.catch.no)
00:50.34TainI didn't pay attention when they were discussing the new dkp system the guild I've been playing with was finalizing.  I know I'm going to regret it when they "unveil" it.
00:51.35TainI know everyone their own ideas and implementations, but there's some that I've read that I absolutely hate.
00:51.53WobinOn the one hand, I wouldn't mind writing it, if just for the sake of writing it. On the other hand, if there's one out there already that does it, I'll happily suggest it, even if it's horribly written =P
00:52.23kergothokay, killed counterspell and magic absorption in favor of 2 to elemental precision and 3 to improved blizzard, for grinding, then i'll revisit when i hit 60
00:52.43kergothMikma, egad that ui is cluttered
00:52.55Mikmakergoth: yeah, horrible :P
00:52.57Mikmahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4996-NeptuneDisplay.html
00:53.11Mikmathat's funny
00:53.45kergothheh, cute
00:54.00Mikmai must try out it
00:54.01TemI need a name for my item tracker
00:54.16Mikmatem: pickpocket
00:54.36Tempocket secretary
00:54.36Mikmai'm sure it's already taken anyway
00:54.49Mikmasecretary is simple and funny too
00:55.05WobinNo big comments besides the fact that druids don't have combo points when in cat form.
00:55.08WobinThey don't?
00:55.18Mikma"good morning mr/ms foo, you have xxx to track"
00:56.15TemWobin: yes, they od
00:56.17Temdo*
00:56.23WobinThat's what I thought =P
00:56.28WobinSilly commenter
00:58.57WobinTem: Stocktake
00:59.09TemStockBoy
00:59.35Mikmaforklift
00:59.39Mikmaehehe
01:00.41Mikma"Ultimate ItemTracker from HELL!"
01:06.05Mikmawow, the DHUD beta is nice
01:06.13TemI should call it Stargate
01:06.28Temcus that's what we call the machine that hosts our little inventory tracking server at work
01:06.29kergothis it? i havent tried the beta yet, havent gotten up the nerve to :)
01:06.35Tekcuberf
01:06.43TemTekcub: save me
01:06.46TemI need a name
01:06.52Tekcubfor?
01:07.14Temthe item tracking thingy
01:07.16Mikma"my children!!"
01:07.18Tekcubhrm...
01:07.29TekcubiTem
01:07.33Tainhah!
01:09.46Temoh god
01:10.43Wobinrofl
01:10.50Wobinbrilliant =P
01:10.52Temnice try tek
01:10.58Temnow something I can actually use
01:11.39TainI haven't been paying attention, what does it actually do?  I know item tracking but what specifically?
01:19.47Wobinhrm
01:19.51Wobin[09:18-463] ...ace\FuBar\FuBarPlugin-1.2\FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua:2059: attempt to index a nil value
01:19.51Wobin<PROTECTED>
01:20.02kergothTem, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=blizzard-archive&t=37&tmp=1#post37 makes it look like chance to hit affects binary and non-binary equally, only difference is when it gets applied.  that how you read it as well?
01:20.09kergothbleh, headache
01:20.15Wobinwhat am I missing =\
01:20.22Temnot sure, it's been like a week since I read it
01:20.31Temright now I'm leading an Ony raid
01:20.40kergothah
01:21.29Wobinhm
01:21.34CodayusHmmm
01:21.36WobinI think I'll wait til the free respec on 1.11
01:21.39Wobinfor my mage
01:21.42Mikmagoddamn, i can't remember how tofind and delete files in unix
01:21.54Wobinsince I've started him up on an arcane tree for some reason
01:21.58CodayusHey Tem, you know a fair bit about mages, yes?
01:21.59Wobinrm?
01:22.34kergoththere any speculation on which tuesday 1.11 will hit?
01:22.43MikmaWobin: not good enough, it needs to be a script to find all files called .DS_Store and delete them
01:23.49Tekcubhrm... name for item mod...
01:24.09kergothMikma: find /the/path -name .DS_Store -exec rm -f {} \;
01:24.12clad|cookingwhats it do?
01:24.18Mikmakergoth: thankyou :)
01:24.20kergothnp
01:24.26Tekcubit's Tem's generic Fubar item counter
01:24.37Tekcublike FarmFu but like, better or something
01:24.43cladhaireHrm... dunno then
01:25.14CIA-1703kyahx * r2196 10SmartRes/ (SmartRes.lua SmartResLocals.lua): SmartRes 0.3.2 -- Added Paladins to priority list, added basic support for custom channels, fixed spell intertupts and failed spells not registering, fixed standby mode truely disabling the mod
01:26.23TekcubI love fucking with tauren druids in emotes
01:26.34Mikma<PROTECTED>
01:26.39Tekcub<PROTECTED>
01:26.50Tekcub<PROTECTED>
01:28.17Kyahx|afkcladhaire: the page to change my svn password dosent seem to be working, is it down?
01:28.55cladhaireKyahx: Are you using Internet Explorer?
01:29.01KyahxFirefox
01:29.05cladhaireO.o
01:29.07cladhairewhats it saying
01:29.09cladhaire?
01:29.21Kyahx404 error
01:29.25KyahxPage Not Found
01:29.26cladhaireOh
01:29.27cladhairelol
01:29.30cladhairethats easy
01:29.39cladhairetry now =)
01:29.49Kyahx=)
01:30.18Tekcubmmmmm... bear tauren druid balls on mah face
01:30.28Mikmayay, released my ui after 1month pause
01:30.31TekcubI love it when they get all kinky on ya
01:30.36Kyahxbah, Illidan is down =(
01:31.25Tekcubstupid illidan
01:31.30TekcubI hate that server
01:31.37Tekcubhorde or ally?
01:31.39Kyahxha, you have toons on there?
01:31.40KyahxIm ally
01:31.47Tekcubhave/had
01:31.56Tekcubremember <Kharma Trolls>?
01:32.01KyahxI do
01:32.10TekcubI was one of the founders, I'm Bear there
01:32.20Kyahxremember <Jacks of All Trade>?  =P
01:32.41Kyahxthat was my RL friends and I ^.^  or atleast founded by
01:33.08Kyahxthen they all quit and I had to join a real guild  :@
01:33.20TekcubI bearly left horde territory on Illi
01:33.27TekcubI hate PvP
01:33.31KyahxI have 3 60s, hehe
01:33.44KyahxThinking about grinding to GM on my priest
01:35.09Amadeo-wait for the patch
01:35.10snurreuh
01:35.33KyahxIm only rank 10, I wouldnt hit 14 before the patch
01:36.09snurre4 weeks for 13-14, 3 weeks for 12-13, 3 weeks for 11-12, 2 weeks for 10-11
01:36.11snurrerough estimate
01:36.34snurrei don't see why anyone would bother putting in the effort needed to get rank14 anymore
01:36.42KyahxThe new weapons are amazeing
01:36.53TekcubI don't see why anyone would grind honor period...
01:37.01Amadeo-yeah
01:37.05snurrethe amount of work needed isn't something you realise until youve done it
01:37.12Amadeo-PvE rewards are better for PvP, and you have to do less
01:37.47snurreyou don't have to sacrifice your entire RL, job/school and whatever to get PvE rewards that are about equal to rank14 rewars
01:38.00Amadeo-equal? They surpass
01:38.14snurrein 1.11, sure
01:38.16cladhaireKyahx: Whats your priests name on Illidan?
01:38.17snurreand c'thun
01:38.22cladhairei wanna check something
01:38.27Amadeo-there's a 90 DPS sword that drops in Naxx now
01:38.44snurre95.6 dps 2h mace from kel'thuzad
01:39.12snurre~73dps 1handers (sword, mace, axe, dagger)
01:39.43Amadeo-what's the mace called?
01:39.47snurreMight of Menethil
01:40.04cladhaireKingsfall is also very nice =)
01:40.07snurre2% crit, "some" strength and 45ish stam on it
01:40.12Amadeo-wow
01:40.15Amadeo-that will smash faces in
01:40.24Amadeo-where's a list of the new items found so far?
01:40.29snurrethe naxxramas items are far beyond all
01:40.33cladhairewhataboutpp.com
01:40.37cladhairehas been really good
01:40.40snurrethink might of menethil was shown at e3
01:40.42Amadeo-cladhaire!
01:40.46cladhaireAmadeo-: ?
01:42.05cladhaire... yes?
01:42.15cladhaireKyahx: zomg come back
01:42.16Amadeo-what about pp?
01:42.18Amadeo-:(
01:42.33cladhaireAmadeo-: ... what about it http://whataboutpp.com
01:42.38cladhaire??
01:42.48Amadeo-haha
01:42.48Amadeo-just the name
01:42.48cladhairei was completely serious
01:42.48Amadeo-I know!
01:44.41Amadeo-wish everything wasn't under the "misc" category
01:46.23Mikmagoddamn i feel like coding but don't wanna learn everything again haha
01:47.04Kyahxcladhaire: My priests' name is Pots
01:47.15KyahxKyahx was my first toon's name, my rogue =P
01:48.35cladhaireWhat rank do you want to get?
01:48.53KyahxI was considering grinding to GM (Rank 14)
01:49.10Kyahxfor the healing mace / tome
01:49.16TainSuch a pain in the ass to do.
01:49.24Amadeo-there's a good pic of it
01:49.24Amadeo-http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/files/might-of-menethil-id1354/
01:49.26Amadeo-that's just insane
01:49.27cladhaireget the AQ mace =)
01:49.33cladhairehttp://www.wowguru.com/db/profiles/pots-id1043694/
01:49.49Kyahxo.O
01:49.54cladhaireeven with 10,000 ERC you'd take 6 weeks to get Rank 11
01:50.02cladhairewell, four weeks
01:50.07cladhaireat six weeks you'd be 39% through 11
01:50.18Kyahxhaha, since when did wowguru auto-profile everyone =P
01:50.30cladhairesince.. i dunno =)
01:50.34cladhairethey crawl the wow honor rankings.
01:50.38cladhairesometimes its depressing
01:50.58Mikmacladhaire: do you have to use an separate addon to put your info in wowguru?
01:51.16Tainheh just read a sad thread where a raid accidentally allowed a Warrior to win a Fang of the Mystics.  ( http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=17070 )
01:51.17cladhaireMikma: I have no idea how they get the info.
01:51.21TainI can only imagine the drama that ensued.
01:51.23cladhaireI believe they get it from the wow honor rankings page
01:51.29cladhaireand you _candownload something to upload your profile
01:51.33cladhairei dunno what it is tho
01:51.43cladhairei just checked it for my druid when I was rank 9
01:51.47Mikmacladhaire: oh ok :) i'll check is my profile there
01:52.12Kyahxmy gear is wrong thou =P
01:53.36kergothhmm, if selectionring supported keybindings for individual items in a ring rather than only the selected one in that ring, itd be much more viable for all use cases
01:53.46Mikmarofl, horrible data on my profile ;)
01:53.57KyahxI was playing around with that, I like it =P
01:54.06Kyahxget my buffs / flavor items off my bars
01:54.12Mikmacladhaire: and i believe it's windows-based addon to upload profile
01:54.37kergothKyahx, yeah, exactly. perfect for that
01:54.37Amadeo-Tain: Was it accidental, or was it DKP?
01:54.42Mikmayeah, won't upload :P
01:55.16KyahxIt would be interesting to try to play WoW with a 360 controller and SelectionRing...
01:55.17Kyahxhmmm
01:55.29kergothhttp://kergoth.com/wow_004.jpg :)
01:55.54Mikmakergoth: haha i got you hooked ;)
01:55.57Amadeo-I've seen that addon
01:56.04Amadeo-but I can't imagine how slow it must be!
01:56.11Mikmaslow?
01:56.24Amadeo-can you bind keys to them?
01:56.24Mikmadon't use it on combat, use it on professions / other skills you won't use so often
01:56.26kergothMikma, yep, you did :)
01:56.34Kyahxits awesome for that
01:56.34Mikmayeah and mousescroll works too
01:56.41kergothyup, i love using the scroll wheel with it
01:56.47Mikmaand clicking the skills selects them (but doesn't use them)
01:57.02kergothi bound shift+t to open ring, t to use selected ring, g and h to scrolling in the ring, and y and u to next/prev ring
01:57.13Mikmai'll take another SS of my UI since i changed it
01:57.14kergothseems to work well, though i use the mouse for navigation more often than not
01:57.22kergothshift+scrollwheel goes through your rings, too
01:57.36Mikmakergoth: yeah i binded the same keys :D
01:57.45kergothhah, nice
01:59.01kergothmy ui is officially useless for all my other characters now, since i havent played them since disabling my actionbars :)
01:59.18KyahxI wonder if you could make it that doublclicking on the selected spell used it, hmmm
01:59.31TainI had an idea for an addon pop into my head but now I don't know if it is something that someone else was talking about and I'm just remebering it, or if I'm actually thinking of a new idea.
01:59.42Amadeo-gotta run :/
02:00.48WobinWhat's that, Tain?
02:01.01Mikmawell, i took 4 screenshots hehe
02:01.29kergothshoot, my box crashed earlier so my ring setup didnt get saved. glad i didnt customize it too much
02:01.38TainNow I want to search through addon sites to see first.  heh
02:02.44TainActually you know what, i'm banishing the thought from my head entirely.  It's an addon I'd never use anyway, only for classes that keep buffs up constantly on people.
02:02.59TemCodayus: sorry, I was updating DKP for my raid
02:03.08kergothMikma, i think itd be cool if you could have sets of rings.  ie. "Spells" isnt a ring, its two concentric rings.  then you allow double click to use, then add keybinds to inner/outer selection, and keybinds to the non-selected buttons, and you've got something thats viable for both combat and not
02:03.15Codayusnp
02:03.18TemCodayus: yeah, I've only really played a mage since release so the bulk of my experience is with them
02:03.23CodayusHeh
02:03.24Wobinany good addons for doing that ingame, Tem?
02:03.32Temnot really
02:03.44TemCT_Raidtracker modded for EQDKP is what I'm using
02:04.17CodayusOkay, silly question if you've got a sec.  How important is spell crit for a mage in pve?  We're a bunch of scrubs (working on Rag) and we currently give mages and locks priority on the Azuresong Mageblade...
02:04.32CodayusA pally suggested that they would benefit from it too, and a mage is throwing a fit.
02:04.45Temfuck the pally
02:04.49Mikmadum di dum
02:04.51TainPally worried about what?  Critting heals?
02:04.52Temthey can use it, yes, but fuck them
02:04.52Gngsklol, you're asking a horde
02:04.54Mikmapretty big pictures
02:04.56CodayusDoh
02:05.05Mikmai made them .png just to be sure the quality is perfect
02:05.05TemGngsk: my main is Alliance
02:05.12Gngskahh, sorry
02:05.16TemI play horde whenever a get a chance now
02:06.02Gngskshould go to mages and locks first, aurastone is really better for a pally
02:06.02TemCodayus: yeah, The Mageblade rocks for pallies, but it's primarily for PVP
02:06.02TainI like Horde better, it's just amazing to me how I end up still playing Alliance a lot.  Well over the course of the game.
02:06.03Mikmakergoth: http://wow.reaktio.net/tricia0.png (try 1, 2, 3, and 4 too ;)
02:06.03Temand if you're working on PVE, then the mageblade should go to the classes that benefit from it in PVE
02:06.03CodayusTem: "for PVP"?  It's good for mages in pvp, or good for pallies in pvp?
02:06.08Temie mages and locks
02:06.11Temgood for pallies in pvp
02:06.15CodayusOh.
02:06.33CodayusHmm, I thought it would be better for the pally in pve - free heals.
02:06.45Temcrit heals are novelty
02:06.47kergothMikma, hehe. not unlike mine, except i'm using ghostbarmod instead of actionbars, and satrina's buff thingy
02:06.59Temthe only class that really wants crit heals are druids
02:07.06Temsince they can spec for 60% crit rate
02:07.07kergothhmm
02:07.15Mikmakergoth: yeah, that actionbar-mod is made by me ;) canyou see it lacks the gray borders of the buttons? ;)
02:07.22CodayusHmm, okay.
02:07.54TemI dunno.  It's definately useful for the pally, but mages and locks should have priority IMHO
02:07.59TainReally Paladins are all about healing efficiency over the course of an encounter, not high crit healing.
02:08.12TainMages and Warlocks are about burst damage, and you benefit more from crits for that.
02:08.30CodayusTain: Hrm, burst damage?  In PvE?
02:08.30kergothMikma, oh nice, didnt notice that
02:08.31Temand for Rag, you need as much burst dps as possible
02:08.34CodayusAh.
02:08.39CodayusOkay, I'll buy that.
02:09.03Mikmakergoth: it's much more visible in the tricia0.png
02:09.09TainMainly for bosses, I pretty much feel there's not much difference for "normal" fights.
02:09.23TainBut it's most important then, need that high short-term dps.
02:10.21Temas an offensive caster, it annoys me to have to fight with healers for +spell damage gear since there isn't any damage only gear
02:10.23CodayusI play a holy priest...this "dps" thing is kind of a mystery to me.  I've heard about it, but never seen it myself...  :-)
02:10.35Tem"we can use it too"
02:11.17CodayusTem: Well, MC itemization kinda sucks for +healing gear...  Apart from Benediction, but that doesn't help anyone but priests.
02:11.21TainYeah.  I don't want to flat out suggest that +spell shouldn't affect heal, but the fact that there is just +heal and no +damage makes a difference.
02:11.37CodayusAnd ZG itemization is worse.  :-/
02:11.45CodayusBut that's another rant.  :-)
02:11.52Temnone of it is particularly nice to casters
02:12.58TainCaster get +shaft!
02:13.09gnorlishtem have you ever checked out http://immortalityguild.com ? hulex coded their dkp system himself and released the software
02:13.11TemI will totally go all in
02:13.23gnorlishit's kinda badass
02:13.30Mikmakergoth: http://wow.reaktio.net/mami.png  :)
02:14.00kergothMikma, ooh, looks like you did something like cardbars
02:14.03Temgnorlish: I have not, but I will at work tomorrow :)
02:14.14Temwe're switching systems for Naxx
02:14.21gnorlishi'm not sure how his system is from a coding standpoint, but he put a lot of time into it
02:14.29Temwe just have a modified normal DKP system atm
02:14.38Temthinking of swithing to a Zero-Sum system
02:14.39Mikmakergoth: yeah i liked the idea of cardbars so i remade my actionbar-addon to be movable :)
02:15.40CodayusTem: Thanks for the input.  Next question - druids bidding on SoD.  Good or bad?  :-)
02:15.49Temgood
02:16.03Temalmost all of our druids have one
02:16.09gnorlishother classes hoard for mageblade, someone has to pick them up
02:16.17gnorlishdruids get so happy when they get SoDs
02:16.55Mikmakergoth: there's some "bugs" i wanted to code out but i lost interest in wow then i forgot .lua ;)
02:17.16kergothhahah, oops
02:18.18CodayusFair enough.  We had a druid win an SoD last Friday, and then the mages started whining on our forums, and somehow it spread to arguing about mageblades, and blah.
02:18.35Mikmabut, i'm still on a quest to find a perfect actionbutton-addon
02:19.04TainThere isn't one, Mikma!  I've decided.
02:19.24gnorlishmages and loks get a crapload of one handers they can use from other instances and quests
02:19.25Temtell the mages to stfu and get a mageblade
02:19.36Temor go to AQ20 and get a Staff of Ruins
02:19.44gnorlishor zg and get bloodcaller
02:19.53gnorlishor grind CH rep and get their quest one-hander
02:20.00CodayusAnd then a priest started arguing that priests should have priority on SoD, and then a shadow priest (and not the sharpest knife in the drawer) started saying that he wanted to be able to bid on a mageblade, and then I started to cry.
02:20.04MikmaTain: yes there is, it just hasn't been coded yet ;)
02:20.32Codayus(How do you get to 60 and not realize that you can't equip swords?  WTF?)
02:20.51Mikmai think lucen thought about coding a actionbar-mod
02:21.28MikmaCodayus: because he hasn't used weapons to fight ;) only spells
02:22.42CodayusTem: Thanks a lot.
02:23.16TemCodayus: lol @ druids that don't know they can't wear a sword
02:23.26CodayusNo, this was a priest...
02:23.32TainOf course the fact that I view guild strife, drama, and in-fighting a source of entertainment in the game means I strongly endorse the, "Anyone can bid for anything they can equip" rule.
02:23.34CodayusWho wanted the mageblade to pvp.
02:24.02Tem*sigh*
02:24.17TemTain: we have that rule
02:24.19Temand I hate it
02:24.39Temthe only thing we've ever restricted was the Thunderfury bindings
02:24.48TainIt's not stricly what I'd say "good" for a guild. :)
02:24.54TainBut it's good for malcontents such as myself.
02:24.58Temwe said F-you to any hunter that tried to bid on it
02:25.13Temwe've only had one pally take a mageblade from a mage
02:25.16CodayusWe've got one mage who wants *STRICT* class priorities (read - all dmg items are mage loot!), and one priest who wants completely free bids (read - all dmg items are priest pvp items!).  And if they keep arguing about it much longer, I'll go insane.
02:25.43MikmaNurfed_ActionBar would be nice... but it doesn't have a option to write down the positioning-numbers in config, it has only slider :P
02:25.44Temthis is what being a moderator on your forums is for
02:25.51CodayusHeh
02:25.55Tem*lock*
02:26.10gnorlishhow fast are you progressing through the pve content
02:26.17Mikmaand i wan't an actionbar-mod which can be shrinked to the size of 3x10 and still it docks automatically inmiddle of screen
02:26.32gnorlishwe had people hoarding for end-of-bwl gear once we killed rag b/c we tore through MC fast
02:26.42gnorlishso we had to implement an MC-gear requirement
02:26.56Mikmaand, i wan't to remove the damn gray borders from the buttons hehe
02:27.14hyperChipmunkthe raid i'm on does separate dkp for each zone
02:30.02TemI wish we did it lke that
02:30.19Tema 3 hour MC raid is worth like 14 DKP
02:30.33Tembut 5 hours of wipes in BWL is only worth like 6 or 7
02:30.44gnorlishthat should be ther other way around
02:30.49Temindeed
02:30.50Codayuscan mages USE maces?
02:30.52gnorlishlearning new content should be hugely rewarded
02:30.53Temno
02:30.54gnorlishno, they can't
02:30.56CodayusAh ha.
02:31.00TemI wish we could
02:31.00TekcubTem
02:31.08TekcubI have your item mod name
02:31.11Temthe buttplug of Nefarian is awesome
02:31.13Tekcuband you're gonna love it
02:31.27gnorlishi can't decide whether to get the AQ staff or shadow flame
02:31.28TekcubWhaChewGotFu?
02:31.34gnorlishi think i'm gong to grab whichever drops first
02:31.46TemTekcub: I'm not from alabama
02:31.49TemI don't talk like that
02:32.08Tekcubbut, it's perfect... the Fu and everything
02:32.18hyperChipmunklol
02:32.22Tem*sigh*
02:32.33hyperChipmunkthat's awesome
02:32.45Tekcubthe kiddies will eat it up, it sound all "hip" or whatever
02:33.00hyperChipmunkLocationFu could have been WhereYouGoinFu
02:33.16gnorlishahem
02:33.24Tekcubsee, hC's gettin it
02:33.27gnorlishWhereYouAtFu
02:33.36CodayusThis...
02:33.36Tekcuband ModMenu can be WhaChewWantFu
02:33.41CodayusThis is a very very bad idea.
02:33.59CodayusI believe we should drop this line of thought immediatly, if not sooner, and never speak of it again.
02:34.11Tekcuband Friends/GuildFu can be WhoBeDatFu
02:34.18hyperChipmunkhahahaha
02:34.42Tekcubfine, just use iTemFu
02:34.45hyperChipmunkNameShowFu
02:34.51Tekcubbunch of fuckswudges
02:34.55hyperChipmunkWhoYouFu
02:35.13Tekcuboh and I got a name for my duo auto-roller mod
02:35.22TekcubPartnersInCrime :)
02:35.22gnorlishi voted CorkFu be named StaFu
02:35.40gnorlishalas, it was too straightforward
02:35.43Tekcubthere was a whole train of logic that lead to Cork
02:36.17Tekcubneedy, whiny, cheese with your whine? wine, winebottle, cork, put a cork in it
02:36.45gnorlishthe kids would have been all over StaFu
02:36.51CodayusStaFu?
02:36.52gnorlishsaying the name in chat
02:36.55gnorlishgiggling to themselves
02:36.57CodayusI don't get it..
02:36.59hyperChipmunkstfu
02:37.00gnorlishSTFU
02:37.05Tekcubwhy do I keep thinking StaffInfectionFu?
02:37.14TainAm I the only one who sees the proliferation of things suffixed with -Fu as annoying as when everything was prefixed with Ace- ?
02:37.23hyperChipmunkno, shut up
02:37.26Tekcubyes, bugger off sod
02:37.27CodayusTain: Probably not.
02:37.31TainOk, just checking.
02:37.54hyperChipmunks/no/yes/
02:37.56hyperChipmunk=P
02:37.59CodayusActually, what confuses me is...why is my AddOns directory full of mods names Fubar_<something>Fu?
02:37.59Tekcubthe idea with Fu was to kinda stay creative, GuildFu and FriendsFu are very BAD examples of thes
02:38.04TainDunno what it'll do.
02:38.05CodayusIsn't that a little redundant?
02:38.26gnorlishtain do you still call things you fudged with "tainted"
02:38.27Tekcubbut the good ones like ToFu and such.. :)
02:38.40Temmy guild voted for iTem
02:38.44hyperChipmunkckknight wouldn't let me go with BatFu
02:38.46TainThat's because they are tainted, gnorlish. :)
02:38.48Tekcubi think iTem is good
02:38.57Temproblem is I don't release under "tem"
02:39.01TekcubWhaChewGotFu is better, but iTem is a close second
02:39.03CodayusiTem amuses me.
02:39.10CodayusWho cares?  :-)
02:39.13Tekcubso call it iTard
02:39.17Codayus....
02:39.21Codayuslol
02:39.22TekcubiTem sounds better
02:39.24Kyahxlol
02:39.29TainThen have the group version called weTard
02:39.45hyperChipmunkand then you could have a history
02:39.52hyperChipmunkand call it weTardDid
02:39.55Tekcuband one for the guild <Ed>
02:39.59TekcubweTardEd
02:40.04TainWord!
02:40.07hyperChipmunkmine's better, and i was first
02:40.09CodayusweTard...is...
02:40.10Codayus...heh
02:40.11gnorlishtain did you happen to go insane for non-trivial periods of time while coding visor
02:40.11TekcubseToddEd
02:40.12hyperChipmunkTekcub eliminated
02:40.27hyperChipmunkgnorlish: hahaha
02:40.27TainActually gnorlish I was never sane.
02:40.35TainBut, Rowne did the bulk of the original Visor coding.
02:40.41Tekcubeye yam sofa king whee todd ed
02:40.43CodayusWhich explains much...
02:40.51gnorlishah that's right, i have a hard time keeping you guys and your addons straight
02:41.10TainI have done updates on Visor for quite a while now though.
02:41.38CodayusI crashed WoW!
02:41.39CodayusHmmm
02:42.00CodayusThere's 30 minutes of fiddling with Visor settings I won't be getting back...
02:42.01Codayus*sigh*
02:42.19TainSave everything in a script!
02:42.31TainI do all my Visor configs in tinypad now.
02:42.35CodayusI *WAS*.
02:42.49CodayusI hit the "run" button in tinypad...
02:42.51Codayusand wow crashed
02:42.51TainOh.  Well.. watch out for the tinypad crashing not saving vars bug!
02:43.06Tainheh
02:43.56gnorlishwhat's the easiest current way to grab addons off the svn
02:44.05TekcubtortoiseSVN
02:44.11Tekcublern2readmysig
02:44.15Gngskheh
02:44.20gnorlishoh no you didn't
02:44.20hyperChipmunkWUT IS TEH SVN??
02:44.36gnorlishi had to ban using "lern2" in guild for a while
02:44.40gnorlishit got way out of hand
02:45.01Tekcublern2thisisn'tyourguildso:P
02:45.02Kyahxits fine, learn2tolerate
02:45.19Codayuslern2lovelern2stuff!
02:45.30TainNever.
02:45.31gnorlishdoesn't even bother me anymore, i just pretend anyone who uses it has brain damage
02:45.32CodayusYay, that was the most incoherent thing I've said all day!
02:45.44gnorlishbig confidence booster!
02:45.55Kyahxso the fubar example plugin should be lern2fu?
02:45.58Tekcubshouldn't that be lern2love2lern2stuff
02:46.07gnorlishalthough it doesn't quite apply here, i'm way outclassed
02:46.18Tekcublern1.2fu
02:46.29gnorlishescape the 1.
02:46.45CodayusTekcub: Okay.
02:47.45Temhmm, what's the blue chromag breath do?
02:47.47TemI dun remember
02:47.50gnorlishdrain mana
02:47.53gnorlishit's horrible
02:48.02gnorlishrather
02:48.05gnorlishthe breath is frost dmg
02:48.06Temwe've got blue tonight
02:48.14gnorlishit's not horrible, quite the opposite
02:48.20Temk
02:48.24Temwe had acid last week
02:48.45gnorlishi find myself praying for time lapse
02:48.51gnorlishb/c the rogues can just go apeshit the entire fight
02:49.07hyperChipmunkthey usually do that anyways
02:49.33gnorlishour rogues have serious hate issues
02:49.51gnorlish"but i was feinting every time it was up!" is a common one
02:50.26TainSomeone needs to learn them Rogues how to fight!
02:51.16gnorlishi'm ok with them walking the thin line now
02:51.25gnorlishbetter than underdpsing
02:52.23hyperChipmunkdead = 0 dps
02:52.35gnorlishthey have such potential though
02:53.09Temlol pulling chromag when the lever isn't open yet sucks
02:54.00gnorlishis he porting people, or just growling a lot
02:55.59CodayusMeh, the argument over MC loot priority has now advanced to AQ20...and we don't even RUN AQ20.  *sigh*
02:56.56gnorlishthat loot is too vague
02:57.07gnorlishthere is tons of feral druid gear
02:57.23gnorlishand other random shit that people won't even be able to comprehend
02:57.39Codayusgnorlish: A priest is arguing that vestments of the shifting sands is priest loot.  oO
02:58.01gnorlishit is priest loot... if you are clearing bwl and your mages and loks have their t2 chests
02:58.21gnorlishbut otherwise that would be a big negatory
02:59.52Codayusgnorlish: We're stuck on rag.  We've had 1 arcanist robe drop so far.  :-)
03:00.08Temarc robe sucks
03:00.14Temgood for FR and that's about it
03:00.16gnorlishnice for FR
03:00.34Codayus2 felhear robes.
03:00.55CodayusTem: What's a good MC mage robe?  Volatile Power?
03:00.57gnorlishrobe of volatile power goes to moonkin druids for us now, they look frickin hilarious
03:01.04TemArchmage
03:01.11CodayusHmm, fair enough.
03:01.17Temit's cheap now too
03:01.31TemI'll be using Archmage until I get NW
03:01.49TemI'll take an arcanist for FR and that's it
03:01.57Temso I'm not bidding above min
03:02.27CIA-1703tekkub * r2197 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_CorkFu.toc Tracking.lua):
03:02.27CIA-17FuBar_CorkFu
03:02.27CIA-17- Added tracking module
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03:05.58Temugh
03:06.01Temmy mages are pissing me off
03:06.06Temthey *suck* at decursing
03:06.14TemI died and the curses piled up
03:06.22Temso we lost the tank to an incinerate
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03:09.28gnorlishget more health!
03:09.57Temyeah, I can't soak 5k
03:10.02Temnot possible for a mage
03:10.14Temoh /cry
03:11.31TemI got a partial resist too
03:11.47gnorlishlucky you
03:11.49TemI only needed to mitigate 3700
03:11.54Tembut it still one shot me
03:12.11gnorlishif i had a lok with imp out i could eat incinerate, but boy would i be close
03:12.22gnorlishdouble digit close
03:12.51Temheh
03:12.56Temthat's too close for me
03:13.05TemI think if I had been at 100% I could have eaten it
03:13.17Tembut I had like 4 stacks of red
03:13.25gnorlishyou alliance?
03:13.47Temya
03:14.49gnorlishthat fight is the only fight in bwl where shamans are useful, excepting razorgore if you use the kiting method
03:15.09gnorlishdisease cleansing totem is amaaaazing
03:15.47TekcubI need to write up ResistanceIsFutile...
03:17.42WobinAs long as it's a standalone
03:17.50WobinWith BorgFu as the Fubar addon
03:22.52gnorlishi'm getting a propfind failure through tortoise, do i have to auth or something
03:23.44Gngskuse http:// instead of svn://
03:28.33gnorlishbleh
03:28.39gnorlishi've been using windows too much
03:47.01ckknightwhat's BorgFu?
03:47.29ckknightoh, resistance checker?
03:58.39CIA-1703tekkub * r2198 10/branches/FuBar_Tracker/: FuBar_Tracker - Creating branch path
03:58.59Temoh ffs
03:59.03Temwhat is up with our healers
03:59.08TemChromag is not this hard
04:00.37CIA-1703tekkub 07Tekkub * r2199 10FuBar_Tracker/ (9 files):
04:00.37CIA-17FuBar_Tracker (Tekkub's branch)
04:00.37CIA-17- Upgraded to Fubar Plucin 1.2 so I could attach to the damn minimap
04:00.37CIA-17- Changed default icon so it doesn't conflict with NameToggle's
04:00.37CIA-17- General code cleanup and reastructuring
04:00.57Tekcuboh yea, fixed how he hides the minimaptrackerframe thing too
04:02.53CIA-1703tekkub 07Tekkub * r2200 10FuBar_Tracker/ (. FuBar_Tracker.luc):
04:02.53CIA-17FuBar_Tracker (Tekkub's branch)
04:02.53CIA-17- Removing temp file (how'd that get in there ><)
04:02.54CIA-17- Last commit addition: Blizzard Minimap tracker icon is now supressed in a much cleaner way (thank you AceHooks!)
04:11.24cursenetTem it can be sometime
04:11.35Temno, we have easy breaths
04:11.35cursenetif you get corrisive acid isn t that ncie :>
04:11.36cursenetnice
04:11.46Temwe had acid last week
04:11.48cursenetslap them then
04:11.56Temwe have frost this week
04:12.01cursenetah frost is easy
04:12.06Tem*I* can soak a frost breath
04:12.20gnorlishis frenzy taking your tank down
04:12.23Temno
04:12.26Temjust bad heals
04:12.54gnorlishi didn't realize how bad frenzy hurt until i watched our tank's hits and heals
04:13.12gnorlishhe was taking thousands of damage instantly
04:14.47cursenetfrenzi+acid is kinda bad
04:15.00Temwe had acid last week
04:15.04cursenetbut well, it s still a easy boss
04:15.05cursenet:)
04:15.05Temand took him down in 3 pulls
04:15.23Tem(it was also our first night to ever fight him)
04:17.36gnorlishwe tried to take down time lapse with 3 tanks last week
04:17.43gnorlishcouldn't dps fast enough
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04:22.10Temdamnit!
04:22.20TemI didn't think I was in LoS
04:25.00gnorlishsounds like you don't have iceblock
04:25.20TemI do
04:25.27TemI just didn't think I was in LoS
04:25.46gnorlishare you in front or behind
04:29.39Temfront
04:29.57Temwe do it in the room before ebonroc
04:29.58Temon the ramp
04:30.32gnorlishas do we
04:30.41gnorlishmuch harder to tell LoS in front
04:30.43Temoh, ffs
04:30.50Temdouble nemesis again
04:31.19gnorlishgrats!
04:31.41TemI hate warlocks
04:31.55gnorlishwe've had zero nw in our 2 most recent bwl clears, the mage hating has vastly subsided
04:31.58Temnext week better be double NW
04:32.32Temyou guys typically get lots of mage loot?
04:32.41gnorlishoh man
04:32.52gnorlishat least 3 pieces a run
04:33.03Temwow
04:33.07gnorlishwe had to dis gloves
04:33.09gnorlishand bracers
04:33.09Temwe rarely get anything
04:33.28gnorlishhowever, i've had to play my shaman for vael lately
04:33.33Kaeltenhows it going guys?
04:33.40gnorlishand the belt has dropped twice
04:33.40gnorlishand i need it :(
04:35.54KyahxArcHUD is odd.  I can't get AceHeal support for the NamePlates working
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04:40.10CIA-1703tekkub 07Tekkub * r2201 10FuBar_Tracker/FuBar_Tracker.lua:
04:40.10CIA-17FuBar_Tracker (Tekkub's branch)
04:40.10CIA-17- OnClick will now cycle thru available tracking spells
04:40.10CIA-17- More general code cleanup
04:43.34TemVael makes me nervous
04:48.43gnorlishvael with wild packet loss makes me nervous
04:49.21gnorlishi don't know about your guys bwl server but ours is dying a slow death
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04:55.35Temheh
04:55.41Temwe had slow motion Razor last week
04:57.37gnorlishwe got so used to killing razor with lag that for a couple days we couldn't evne kill him
04:57.40gnorlishwhen it was clear
05:04.25Temugh
05:04.33Temwe *suck* at nef
05:04.46Temgranted this is only our second go at it, but this is dirty
05:05.22gnorlishwhich colors
05:05.36Temred and something
05:06.04gnorlishred is bad
05:06.15gnorlishi hope your healers are ready
05:09.01Temwe're having trouble controling them
05:11.16gnorlish3 warriors
05:11.20gnorlishrotate taunts
05:11.27gnorlishand pull them back out of the entryway
05:11.41gnorlishthe main assist targets each tank's mob in order
05:11.47gnorlishuntil they start to overwhelm
05:11.50gnorlishand aoe commences
05:14.29gnorlishdruids in middle heal and stay ready to switch to bear and taunt ones that escape
05:17.36Temso you need 6 tanks?
05:19.40gnorlishwell
05:19.47gnorlishred is especially healing intensive
05:19.54gnorlishso 3 on red is what we do currently
05:20.00gnorlishwhat is your other color
05:26.15Temblack
05:30.27gnorlishthat's supposedly the hardest combo
05:30.33gnorlishour first kill was those 2
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06:24.58Tembleh, I just don't see what we're doing wrong
06:25.05Temlater guys
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08:29.28CIA-1703elkano * r2203 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: MoneyFu: removed update on PLAYER_LOGOUT since GetMoney() returns 0 at that time
08:30.55Elkanohmm.... what's better? commiting the changed files or commiting the directory?
08:31.02Industrialmoonwolf: I give it a 4/10
08:31.11moonwolfits funny damnit
08:31.23Industrialyou can just commit the directory and it will see the changed files Elkano
08:31.36Elkanotakes a bit to get it but tehn: wow :)
08:32.00Industrial< CIA-17> ckknight * r2202 FuBar_MoneyFu/ (FuBar_MoneyFu.toc MoneyFu.lua README.txt): FuBar_MoneyFu - updated version to 1.2
08:32.05Industrial:)
08:32.21Elkanoid, I know, but which way is better? commiting the file won't update revs within the other files, will it?
08:32.27IndustrialWho uses scite again and had that other download site then the official one?
08:32.38IndustrialNo, it wont
08:32.50Industrialwon't*
08:33.23ckknightIndustrial, I just changed the number
08:33.30moonwolfhehe
08:33.32ckknightit's been API 1.2 for a while
08:34.06Industrialckknight: read up :p
08:39.48ckknightread up where?
08:47.24Industrialnever mind, I was just showing elkano that it's possible to commit the whole dir at once, when he asked.
08:51.08ckknightah
08:51.13ckknightokay
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09:44.36CIA-1703neronix * r2205 10NanoStats/NanoStats.lua: NanoStats - Renamed vars used for embeds
09:53.18*** join/#wowace Andalia (n=xx@p54AD83A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
09:59.46NeronixHoly crap, my tablets are... reproducing asexually O.o
10:00.12NeronixOh well, at least NSFu's loaded
10:02.20*** join/#wowace Makk (n=marcus@trondelag-dhcp-214-66.bluecom.no)
10:02.29Makkhoi :)
10:03.10ckknightNeronix, ?
10:03.23Elkanosomeone should write a ook interpreter using lua so we can code our addons using ook ;)
10:03.32MakkJust wondering about something, how do I get whole folders off the SVN?
10:04.01ckknightcheckout
10:04.11Makkerr... one and one file at the time?
10:05.06Elkanono, simply checkout the folder
10:05.54Makkhttp://svn.wowace.com/svnweb/index.cgi/root/checkout/trunk/otravi_CastingBar/
10:06.04Neronixckknight: Must be a side effect of the haxoring I was doing to turn my tablet into a FuBar tooltip if NSFu's present
10:06.36Neronixif I detach it and mouseover the plugin frame, it creates a clone of the tablet
10:08.08moonwolfcool
10:08.12moonwolfin a weird way
10:09.16NeronixAs soon as I attach one of the clones, it stops
10:13.34IndustrialDoes the svn server have anonymous access? i.e. joe average can download from it? (but not change)
10:13.43[Ammo]ofcourse it has
10:13.53IndustrialMakk: then get an svn client :p
10:16.20NeronixTurning on overrideTooltip fixes it
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10:18.39MakkIndustrial: oh, ok
10:19.49MakkI have very little experience with this svn thing tbh :P
10:20.54[Ammo]there's howto's on line
10:24.56Industrialand a free book
10:27.50Makkhm. any tips for a client?
10:29.18ckknightNeronix, odd
10:31.47Neronixckknight: I'll need to do it another way
10:32.01NeronixTablet won't stay 100% on screen if it's on the far left or right
10:32.24Neronixand it doesn't move down with the plugin text if I move it to a lower panel
10:32.42NeronixThat's what happens when I do hackish things :P
10:34.02IndustrialMakk: tortoisesv
10:34.05Industrialn
10:34.24Makkhmmmm
10:40.03ckknightNeronix`afk, don't employ hacks
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11:17.54WobinCause they're -never- good
11:18.34Industrialmy idChat addons could be seen as a series of hacks
11:18.42Industrialactually, any hook is a hack
11:18.50Industrial>P
11:19.45Industrialyay someone at work got me 0.5cm grid paper
11:20.01Industrialnow i can draw tunnel doodles allday long o_O
11:22.33moonwolfwhy is a hook a a hack
11:22.41moonwolfhooks are very valid lua tool
11:22.44moonwolftools*
11:24.28IndustrialWell not programming technically but more in programming design
11:24.46Industrialits not 'nice'
11:26.48Industrialnicer if the part you want hooked provited some list you can add your function to to execute before or after its own code
11:26.58Industrialinstead of kidnapping that code
11:27.09clad|sleepbut adding callbacks to all API functions is unreasonable
11:27.15Industrialwtb spelling course
11:27.19clad|sleepits just using what we're given.. I wouldn't say its a hack at all =)
11:27.45clad|work*lick*
11:27.47clad|worki'm off to work
11:27.59Industrialbye
11:28.08Industrial:)
11:30.47phyberwhen looking at the character screen with all your equipment on it, is it possible to add text above the equipped items?
11:33.44[Ammo]ofcourse it is
11:34.23phybergood.
11:34.27[Ammo]you can find the frame names of each of the equipment buttons and attach a fontstring to that frame
11:34.41[Ammo]but why? :)
11:35.03phyberbecause it irritates me that I have to highlight items to see the durability, I'm going to put that in a little string at the bottom.
11:35.19phyberso when you open the screen, you can see the durability of everything
11:35.22hastegood day
11:35.27[Ammo]good day haste
11:35.43[Ammo]I've decided I'm going to write my own oRA_MTF
11:35.48hastephyber: hope you don't mind me using the smooth texture on oUF2 btw
11:35.48[Ammo]the current ones are not good enough
11:35.50haste:o
11:36.02[Ammo]smooth texture?
11:36.06[Ammo](pics!)
11:36.19hasteI have a very lagging vid that shows it :p
11:36.29hasteI can take a screenshot now tho'
11:36.51phyberhaste: not at all :)
11:37.24phyber[Ammo]: http://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_052006_203043.jpg
11:38.03[Ammo]what texture is the smooth one?
11:38.16hasteon the castingbar
11:38.22[Ammo]ah
11:38.33[Ammo]oh and I see you have the same problem I have with PRT :)
11:38.37[Ammo]it gets sooooo big
11:40.03[Ammo]is that the newest perfectraid? or just modded? (texture)
11:40.03phyberI modded the texture
11:40.05phyberit's the otravi texture
11:40.16phybersame on squishy, otravi texture there too
11:42.42Industrialthe otravi texture is from discord unit frames
11:43.10Industriali pulled it from there and whoever made aceunitfrmes put it in there :p
11:43.30Industrialphyber: the ocb texture is nice
11:44.12[Ammo]I hate how PRT becomes so big
11:44.22[Ammo]and never goes smaller
11:44.39[Ammo]I think the GetStringWidth() function doesn't take UI scale in account
11:44.57[Ammo]but I'll have to experiment with that a bit
11:45.11[Ammo]multiply the result from GetStringWidth by GetScale or something
11:52.12Industrialim ms painting an inspect frame :p
12:00.18moonwolflol
12:00.35moonwolfyou should get work as a pixel artist
12:03.57Industrialbut im horrile at 3d :(
12:04.01Industrialhorrible*
12:04.10Industrialand persons is the worst thing ever :p
12:04.16Industrialwell.. 3d.. isometric
12:04.30Industrialhttp://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9004/untitled7sp.png
12:04.56Industrialbottomright would be the target dressup frame thingy
12:05.18Industrialer, the button to toggle it
12:06.21Industrialhmm
12:06.25Industriallemme try making a house
12:06.25Industrial:p
12:10.42cursenetmoon -> http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/
12:17.13moonwolfhmm
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12:19.11moonwolfthanks cursenet
12:19.31moonwolfa new version of mend/pt will be released shortly after 1.11 goes live
12:19.40moonwolfwith relevant changes ofcourse.
12:21.05Elkanowhat's changed?
12:25.48phybercool.  I got it working on my waist slot.  now I just have to make it work for all slots when you open the character window :)
12:25.51moonwolfrequirements for the recipies.
12:26.21moonwolfand the requiments for tier 3 need to be added
12:26.28moonwolfwich cursenet linked to me.
12:26.46moonwolfthe aq armor quests I mean, those have their requirements changed.
12:27.45moonwolfcursenet, is is possible to extract the itemid from your itemdb ?
12:28.44phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_053006_132632.jpg
12:29.01phyberIn the waist slot :)
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12:33.20Slaymanhey people it has been a while I hope you missed me
12:33.34Tekcubnope
12:34.01Elkanophyber, which ab mod is that? DAB?
12:34.27[Ammo]tekcub: what causes the PRT frames to become so wide?
12:34.29SlaymanTekcub: I love you too
12:34.43Tekcublong mob names
12:34.50[Ammo]they shouldn't be that long
12:34.52TekcubI'm gonna make it shrink back
12:35.00[Ammo]shrink is perfect
12:35.17TekcubI thougt constantly resizing frames would be annoying
12:35.24Tekcubbut this is more annoying
12:35.27[Ammo]or just truncate
12:35.46[Ammo]if you set a width and height on the fontstring it'll autotruncate if larger
12:40.21cursenetmoonwolf soon it will
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12:46.38moonwolfcursenet, cool.
12:46.42moonwolfmorning tem
12:49.30phyberElkano: Action Bar?  It's Card_Bars
12:50.17Mikmahello all!
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12:50.43[Ammo]need new MG2
12:50.46moonwolfmorning Tain , steino.
12:52.32Industrial:3
12:53.14hastenoes!
12:53.20Mikmayeas!
12:53.24TainI just like saying the name.
12:53.27Tainouf ouf ouf~!
12:54.19Elkanohmm... never heard of it
12:54.52[Ammo]I like the new debuff glow highlight in MG264pre4
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12:57.21weabhmm
12:58.41ThraeDon't you hate it when someone writes a comment like "VitalWatch.lua:201 - Attempt to compare number with nil" where line 201 isn't comparing a number >.>
12:59.41weabwhat's this with wow displaying stuff on my g15's lcd in 1.11
12:59.43Industrialsmack them with the latest release
13:00.00weaband where's my api to change it :P
13:00.01Industrialwha-pah! djisjhhh
13:00.08ElkanoThrae, it's most likely a 'isn't comparing a number anymor'
13:02.24WobinHeya Tek, you about?
13:02.38ThraeAnyway, GUIs are silly. Why do people want them when my slash command interface is just fine?!
13:02.52hastedepends on the addon IMO
13:03.05hasteI cba to write slash commands for most of the functions on oUF2
13:03.12WobinTekkub: Woould you have any guesses as to why someone would be getting "...\ArmchairAlchemist\PTLib\PTEmbed.lua:38: attempt to compare number with nil"?
13:03.23Thrae<PROTECTED>
13:03.27ThraeWhat's wrong with that!
13:04.05ThraeOh, and if you get any of the items wrong, it deletes your command history. That's a known bug.
13:05.51CIA-1703wobin * r2206 10MrPlow/ (MrPlow.lua MrPlow.toc): MrPlow - Updated version number to 4.5.1
13:08.44ThraeWobin: Must be SVN?
13:08.56Tainweab: slouken already said they wouldn't open up functions for users to change anything on the lcd.
13:08.57Wobinmust be SVN?
13:09.22ThraeWobin: WoWI download of ArmchairAlchemist doesn't have PTEmbed.lua ;)
13:09.34Wobin... it doesn't?
13:09.36WobinBuggerme
13:10.04ThraeYeah, it says version 1.0 in the TOC
13:10.31TainOne thing I started doing was taking the actual directory from my Addons folder and zipping that up when I upload so I'm absolutely sure what I send up is exactly what I've just tested in its entirety.
13:11.08ThraeBut the download is called ArmchairAlchemist2.0.zip! Hehe
13:11.23moonwolfrightclick rename.
13:11.25moonwolfor F2
13:11.57MikmaOOOH! Mac.OS.X.Tiger.10.4.6.PowerPC-HOTiSO *drool*
13:12.24ElkanoP-P-P-PowerBook ;)
13:12.28moonwolfis that a warez release /
13:12.30moonwolf?*
13:12.30TainAw come on guys this isn't a software piracy channel.
13:12.57moonwolfmy point exactly.
13:12.59CIA-1703wobin * r2207 10ArmchairAlchemist/ (ArmchairAlchemist.toc ArmchairAlchemistLocals.lua): ArmchairAlchemist - Changed version number to 2.5
13:13.01Mikmai know
13:13.15Mikmabut new tiger is available (10.4.6) on dvd!
13:13.19Mikmathat's my point
13:13.38TainVery good.
13:13.39Wobinbugger.
13:13.48WobinCan anyone test that release for me? =)
13:13.56Mikmaone thing i hate most is installing 10.4 and upgrading it n+1 times to get it to 10.4.6
13:15.12Mikmabut... i still have my original 10.3 on my ppc ;)
13:15.28Mikmahaven't had the money to buy 10.4, but will concider it because of that dvd
13:25.30WobinAnyone on the Euro servers?
13:26.08Mikma<-
13:26.13Mikmanordrassil eu
13:26.18Industrial--^
13:26.37WobinCould you grab the SVN of Armchair Alchemist and tell me if it loads up properly?
13:26.42Industrialwork :(
13:26.53hastehttp://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200605/s1651002.htm << that makes me wonder about mankind
13:27.04MikmaWobin: is it used only for alchemy?
13:27.16WobinNo. For people who -don't- use alchemy =)
13:27.28WobinIt shows the ingredient list for potions in the potion tooltip
13:27.30Mikmahehe ok i'll suck it now
13:27.58Industrialhaste: what a fucking idiot
13:28.06IndustrialI dont believe in bail
13:28.10Industrialwtf is bail about anyway
13:28.16Industrialyou did something wrong so buy yourself out?
13:28.31moonwolfyou MIGHT have done something wrong but you have not been convicted.
13:28.52WobinInnocent til proven guilty, see? =P
13:28.54Industrialso buy yourself out before we convict you?
13:29.05moonwolfyou are ordered to reapear
13:29.08WobinYou're just buying yourself out of a short jailterm
13:29.22moonwolfand the police WILL watch you and FIND you if you try to get away.
13:29.23Industrialpsh :P
13:29.55MikmaWobin: downloaded, testing it now
13:30.00WobinMikma: Thank you =)
13:30.00moonwolfthats one of the way's a modern mercenary makes money
13:30.08moonwolfretreiving people who escaped on bail.
13:30.14MikmaWobin: (out of date)
13:30.17ThraeMikma must be EU/CN ;)
13:30.30Mikmaooh?
13:30.32ThraeOh wait, PTR is up?
13:30.34Mikmanew patch tomorrow?
13:30.41moonwolfdont think so
13:30.42Industrialmoonwolf: so away with bail and those idiotic mercenaries are gone too
13:30.50moonwolfeeeuh
13:30.56moonwolfthats not the point I was making.
13:30.58moonwolfbail is good
13:30.59MikmaWobin: ok, how does it work now?
13:31.05Industrialbail i sbad
13:31.05moonwolfinnocent until proven guilty.
13:31.07ThraeI'm just wondering how Mikma is testing it unless he's not using the US servers.
13:31.32WobinIf you have the herbs in your local cache, mousing over a potion in your inventory should list the required ingredients for that potion
13:31.39Industrialthe fact you have to pay something to get out means corruption of the idea of innocent until proven
13:32.07Mikmamouseovering a potion says: Needs: blah(x) blah(x)
13:32.21WobinCool, just needed to see it loaded up properly
13:32.27WobinThank you =)
13:32.33Mikmai'll test some herbs
13:32.34WobinIndustrial: Nothing is every perfect.
13:32.40Industrialeither dont put people in jail or dont have a bail and let them sit a few days
13:32.55WobinYou're living in an idealised world if you want perfect justice =P
13:32.59Industriali dont object with the latter
13:33.07Industrial-with
13:33.16MikmaWobin: purple lotus doesn't say anything
13:33.18Industrialagainst, whatever
13:33.31ThraeIndustrial: You get back all the money you paid in bail if you're found innocent. Unless you use a bail bond, where you need to usually pay 10% upfront and don't get that back.
13:33.34WobinMikma: The herbs themselves won't say anything
13:33.37WobinMikma: It's only for the potions
13:33.43Mikmaoh ok :)
13:34.01IndustrialThrae: so if you did it they take your money AND put you in prison
13:34.13[Ammo]thrae: and if you don't pay bail, then you just sit and wait in a cell?
13:34.23Wobin[Ammo]: Yes
13:34.29Industrialsee? thers nothing good about bail
13:34.33steino*yawns*
13:34.35WobinAt least until your court case
13:34.44steinoi should really get a bnc.. damn unstable connection :(
13:35.01steinoor rather
13:35.06WobinIndustrial: I don't see anything bad about bail, either =P
13:35.08steinoi should force haste to make me a account on hit
13:35.09steinohis*
13:35.17ThraeIndustrial: Sorry, my mistake. You get your bail back regardless of the verdict.
13:35.25moonwolfyes
13:35.31Industrialah
13:35.41Industrialthen im fine with it :P
13:36.11ThraeThat is, unless you paid bail and then didn't show up for trial. Then they keep it as a penalty.
13:36.29CIA-1703wobin * r2208 10ArmchairAlchemist/ArmchairAlchemist.toc: ArmchairAlchemist - Updated interface number
13:36.40Industrialmoving on to bounty hunters
13:36.47Industrialaway with them!
13:36.48Industrial;p
13:37.00Thrae[Ammo]: High bail is reserved for capital cases, where they don't want the offendant fleeing.
13:37.35WobinIf it weren't for them, we'd not get amusing books like the Stephanie Plum series
13:37.45IndustrialIn the netherlands you can only keep a person from walking away - while you call the police.you cant even make him trip/fall or lock the arms
13:37.53ThraeBounty hunters are very necessary in this day and age. Do you know how many warrents there are that never come to fruition?
13:38.15WobinIndustrial: Can you sit on them?
13:38.24Industrialless bounty hunters,\ more police
13:38.26IndustrialWobin: no
13:38.36ThraeIndustrial: The Netherlands is a much smaller country then the USA.
13:38.57WobinThe police often have different business than chasing bail jumpers
13:39.02ThraeAnd I was just talking about the USA. It's hard to get out of any industrialized country, it's easy to travel state-to-sate in the USA.
13:39.10Industrialnot like i puch the guy in the face is he tries to rob me, but officialkly i cant
13:39.16Industriallike i dont*
13:39.22ThraeThe police in the USA usually work at 150% over capacity.
13:39.28Wobinyeah, self defense is a tricky issue
13:39.50WobinIn Australia, you can defend yourself, but there has to be an obvious threat
13:39.51ThraeJust move to Texas,USA, where it's legal to do anything in self-defense, including kill your wife if she's going to leave you ;)
13:39.53Industriali pity the fool trying to rob me
13:40.05IndustrialThrae: o_O
13:40.08hastesteino: what?
13:40.10Wobinie, if someone breaks into your house, you can't use violence to stop him unless they use violence against you first
13:40.31Wobin(and the breaking in doesn't count)
13:40.36IndustrialWobin: your word against his, he attacked you first
13:40.42TainJust put a knife in his hand after you shoot him. :)
13:40.49WobinGun laws, Tain =P
13:40.58Makkhey, haste :) That font is great, thanks for linking
13:41.04TainOk, put a knife in his hand after you club him with a Fosters.
13:41.04Industrialmash him up with your baseball bat
13:41.08Industrialhehe
13:41.16WobinTain: Feh, noone drinks Fosters =)
13:41.29TainI know I don't!
13:41.32ThraeIn the USA, self-defense is defined as defending yourself against a *perceived* threat. You shouldn't have to wait until someone shoots you before you shoot them, but of course it's easy to spin and hard to prove at the same time.
13:42.26moonwolfhes dead, what is he going to do to prove the opposite ?
13:42.29Wobin"He looked at me funny"
13:42.44Wobinmoonwolf: I'd prefer not to kill, tbh
13:42.54Thraemoonwolf: It's called "prosecution" ;)
13:42.55Industrial( Industrial) mash him up with your baseball bat
13:43.08Industrial:p
13:43.11CIA-1703neronix * r2209 10NanoStats/ (NanoStats.lua NanoStatsLocals.lua): NanoStats - Redid the code that allowed NSFu to reuse code from NS with minimal overhead. There's a little more code, but it's cleaner now. The old was was a great big dirty hack. And that is *never* good
13:43.29IndustrialNeronix: heh
13:43.31moonwolfa good bodycheck into a wall never hurt anybody
13:43.35Wobin(That joke is -never- going to die down =P)
13:43.37moonwolfwell actually it usually does.
13:43.39TainIt's ok, "If'n he had it coming."
13:43.39moonwolfbut I dont care.
13:43.57Industrialmoonwolf: you can just step on is toe and sit on him
13:44.09WobinI'd prefer not to kill. Of course, dislocating/destroying joints is another matter
13:44.11Industrial=p
13:44.27CIA-1703neronix * r2210 10FuBar_NanoStatsFu/ (FuBar_NanoStatsFu.toc NanoStatsFu.lua NanoStatsFuLocals.lua):
13:44.27CIA-17NanoStatsFu - It works!
13:44.27CIA-17- There's no data displayed in the panel yet, but the tooltip works fine. You can even detach it to have it work like regular NS, but if you really want that, unload NSFu :P
13:44.35moonwolfaikido, not hitting your oponent to much.
13:44.43TainI'm a lover, not a fighter.
13:44.48Industrialaikido is cool, don't you learn how to crack peoples fingers and stuff really fast?
13:44.49WobinFuck them to death? =)
13:44.54ThraeTain: I remember when the Andy Griffith show (old black&white comedy show about a rural sherrif) had an episode which dealt with wife beating, where the description of the crime was "Old Amos finally gave his wife what for"
13:45.05Tainhahah
13:45.10TainThat's wrong.
13:45.15moonwolfWobin, eeeuh. whatever you fancy mate.
13:45.42WobinIndustrial: Most of the aikido techniques are to disable and subdue... but the thing is, every single technique can be extended slightly and actually dislocate/smash joints.
13:45.49ThraeYou're right, the quote actually was "Old Amos just gave his wife what for"
13:46.18ThraeWobin: Hence why I learn ninjitsu for self-defense.
13:46.31moonwolfI prefer to yust hit with my fists in a straight forward matter using my full weight and all the strenght in my arms.
13:46.33WobinIt's nice to have the choice though
13:46.38moonwolfI figure most people will break a rib or 3
13:46.51Wobinmoonwolf: Then you tend to bruise your fists =P
13:46.58moonwolfyeah
13:47.00moonwolfI do.
13:47.08ThraeDid you know it's part of the secret ninja art to yell out "Ninja vanish!" before you throw down a smoke bomb?
13:47.16Tekcuberf
13:47.18ThraeIt makes you vanish faster.
13:47.27moonwolfwhen did ninja's start speaking english /
13:47.28moonwolf?*
13:47.30WobinThrae: I do! I saw a video where it's required that you use a flour bomb near tall grass, so you can dive into it
13:47.56Thraemoonwolf: Around 1754 when the Dutch came to Okinawa.
13:48.02moonwolfhehe
13:48.19moonwolfyay dutch and our japanese import/export monpoly
13:48.25WobinThen again, I saw a ninjitsu book that outlined the 'Attack of the One Eyed Snake'...
13:48.26moonwolfmonopoly*
13:48.31ThraeThe English Ninjas wear white to show their nobility and sip tea when not yelling out "Ninja Vanish!"
13:49.34ThraeWobin: Unintended meanings to a literal word-by-word translation FTW!
13:49.36moonwolfwe dutch dont have ninja's we have judo masters.
13:49.53Thraemoonwolf: I hear those clog hoppers really pack a kick.
13:49.54WobinThrae: *nods sadly*
13:50.16TainIn the US we super-size our ninjas.
13:50.16moonwolfmost of them feight bear foot.
13:50.26ThraeAnd if all else fails, you can set your clog hoppers on fire and throw them at your opponent.
13:50.31moonwolfid like to see a judo vs aikido fight
13:50.32WobinI bet the bears aren't too happy about that
13:50.41moonwolfboth focus on disabling instead of hurting....
13:50.43Wobinmoonwolf: They're very similar =P
13:50.47ThraeWhile yelling "FLAMING CLOG HOPPER DEATH SPIRAL ATTACK!"
13:51.13WobinJudo is more focused on closer to the body throws though
13:51.40WobinAikido is more focused on complete avoidance
13:51.43moonwolfjudo is all about tuggin each other for 2 minutes then one throw and a lock of some kind
13:51.44moonwolfdone.
13:51.56Tainhuh.. I know some ex-girlfriends who were masters at complete avoidance.
13:51.59moonwolfor thats how the fights I see go.
13:52.11WobinIf the judoken can get a hold of the aikido guy, then they're likely to win
13:52.23WobinOtherwise the Aikido guy will win =P
13:52.27ThraeTain: Their various powders they carry make good smoke bombs in a pinch.
13:52.30TainKick him in the nads!
13:52.43Wobinit's like watching anyone against someone doing brazilian jujitsu
13:52.50TainJudo ball toss!
13:52.56moonwolfthe problem is, neither can win by not getting close, and so one has to make a first move.
13:52.59Wobinif the jujitsu guy gets the other on the floor, ti's all over =)
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13:53.08Wobinmoonwolf: yeah =)
13:53.12TainShhh Cairenn's here.
13:53.23moonwolfbtw
13:53.32ThraePoor Cairenn, I'm kinda sorry I put Reported! on WoWI ;)
13:53.36moonwolfI saw a group of people doing... euh what was the word
13:53.43WobinCapoiera?
13:53.44Tainmoonwolf: orgy?
13:54.02moonwolfthats is Wobin doing capoiera on the train station.
13:54.09Wobinhehe
13:54.14WobinCapoiera is fun to watch
13:54.15ThraeCrap, it's already this late
13:54.28Wobinbloody difficult to do
13:54.35moonwolfyeah
13:54.40TainYeah but its fatal flaw is when someone turns off the music you lose!
13:54.40moonwolfbut very fun.
13:54.45WobinTain: rofl
13:54.46moonwolflol
13:54.54moonwolfhad a weird instrument too
13:55.02Wobinstringy drum thingie
13:55.05moonwolfyeah
13:55.06moonwolfweird.
13:55.13moonwolfvery long.
13:55.17Tainhmmm google stringy drum thingie
13:55.32Wobinjust google capoiera drum =)
13:55.36Wobinor instrument
13:56.02TainQuite the interesting hits on the first page of results.
13:56.16moonwolfhttp://www.capoeirasantabarbara.com/Pictures/0603g.jpg <- that thing
13:56.40moonwolfa berimbau
13:56.50Tain"yeaup, bit like gater, lil bit like squirrel but not as stringy."
14:22.07Industrial(15:49) <@moonwolf> we dutch dont have ninja's we have judo masters.
14:22.08Industrial(15:50) < Thrae> moonwolf: I hear those clog hoppers really pack a kick.
14:22.15Industrialmoonwolf: we have kickboxers you dummy
14:22.40[Ammo]why go hand to hand when you can use a gun
14:22.52[Ammo](or in WoW style: shadowbolt their asses)
14:22.56WobinWhen you can't have a gun =)
14:23.13Industrialbecase usineg a gun doesnt make you feelgood
14:23.14TainI like cake.
14:23.18moonwolfIndustrial, our judoka's are way better known.
14:23.24TainHappiness is a warm gun.
14:23.28Industrialmoonwolf: not in japan, hah!
14:23.39moonwolfhappiness is a cold beer.
14:23.39WobinCake, or Death?
14:23.49moonwolfill take the pie!
14:24.13[Ammo]hmmmm beer
14:24.13Industrialpahh :p
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14:46.08Cairennbtw, Thrae, I have absolutely no problem with the fact you put reported on the site
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15:03.21Neronixwhat's so special about the G15?
15:03.51TainLook it up.
15:05.58NeronixSounds overkill O.o
15:10.00hastehttp://www.benchmark.pl/artykuly/rzut_okiem/logitech_UltraX_Flat/zdjecie-2.jpg << that keybaord ftw
15:10.48Tekcubwewt! pool be open
15:14.12CIA-1703neronix * r2211 10NanoStats/NanoStats.lua: NanoStats - Big cleanup. Many comments have been redone or removed and block comments have been used to separate groups of things. Now a hextillion times more readable.
15:26.41Slaymanmy next keyboard will possibly the Art Lebedev Optimus that one might be insane
15:28.08Elkanotekkub, just written a small addon to store all items made by a tradeskill in a PT string (well, at least those known to the chara) :) so feel free to add the needed parts to PT and I'll provide at least some data for it :)
15:28.44Cairennmmmmm Optimus
15:29.09Slaymanyeah the sickest but very best idea i've ever seen
15:30.07Elkanohaste, take thatone: local knownItems = compost and compost:Acquire() or {}
15:30.07Elkanoif PT_TSEstorage[version.."-"..build][skillLineName] then
15:30.07Elkanofor itemID in string.gfind(PT_TSEstorage[version.."-"..build][skillLineName], "%d+") do
15:30.08ElkanoknownItems[itemID] = ""
15:30.08Elkanoend
15:30.10Elkanoend
15:30.13TainUnreadable.
15:30.15Elkano...
15:30.17Elkanohttp://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/
15:30.26ElkanoI hate c&p :/
15:30.35Elkanowell, off for lunch... brb
15:30.37Mikmareadable
15:30.39Mikmait's just tabs
15:30.57TainYeah and I've been reading about the Optimus keyboard for four years now.  It'll be lovely if it ever actually hits the market.
15:32.14Mikmathat optimus-mini looks nice
15:32.14Slaymani read that the mini three is already released but i got no confirmation on that one
15:36.12Slaymangoing to released August 15th, für 160 US§
15:36.28Slaymans/US§/US$/
15:37.24Cairennwhich, the mini or the full?
15:37.29Slaymanmini
15:37.52Mikmais there some sorth of CountDoom -addon for priests?
15:37.53Slaymanfull is set for end of 2006
15:39.45TainIt's been saying Aug 15 for a while now, I'm just nice and jaded from seeing articles about that keyboard for years.
15:40.08TainSo when it actually shows up and you can order it, I'll be happy. :)
15:40.51CairennI have to wait and hope they come out with the ergo version though ... I can barely use a straight keyboard any more, I'm so used to my split
15:40.53Mikmathere is, is there? there there..
15:41.17TainThey haven't listed one that I've seen.
15:41.26Cairennlook under "answers"
15:41.35Cairennthey say one will be coming
15:41.36TainWhy would I look for answers there?
15:41.40TainThat makes no sense!
15:41.45Cairennhehehe
15:42.43TainExcellent tshirts!  I'm getting my order on.    http://www.noisebot.com/t-shirts_hoodies_tote_bags
15:44.20MakkI'm considering to start learning some LUA... Is it a hard programming language?
15:44.46Mikmahaha, that Pi shirt is cookl
15:45.02Mikmas/cookl/cool/
15:45.03MakkMy only experience with programming is php and html/css-ish stuff
15:45.13phyberanyone know why I get an error with this?
15:45.14TainDamn they're too expensive for my tastes for a tshirt. :(
15:45.14phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/pl/?q=4
15:45.20phyberthe error is at the bottom of the paste
15:45.44Cairennrarr! http://www.noisebot.com/the_eh_team_t-shirt
15:46.22Tainheheh Cairenn
15:46.39phyberahh, needed getglobal()
15:46.41Cairennhahaha, I like the "This is my otter shirt"
15:46.44MakkI guess not ;P
15:46.57Cairennsorry, I'll hush ...
15:47.16MakkO_o
15:47.29MakkBut seriously, does it take long to learn?
15:47.51Tainphyber:  don't know at first glance, I'd add a print of item.slot right before the local str = line  to see what it contains
15:48.34phyberTain: it contained what it should have, I just needed 'local str = getglobal(wibble)'
15:48.39phybernow it's good :)
15:48.48TainExcellent!
15:50.17phybernow I just need to find out why it doesn't find my Wands durability.
15:51.19Tem_Mikma: lua is *easy*
15:52.00WobinMikma: If you've got a handle on php, lua won't be a problem
15:52.06MakkI guess that was to me ;P
15:52.10Wobiner
15:52.12Wobinyes =)
15:52.19MakkAny beginners guides around?
15:52.30Wobinhttp://www.lua.org/pil/
15:52.49Makkok.'
15:53.00Makkand www.wowwiki.com has a list of functions?
15:53.23Wobinaye
15:53.48Makkand what is really ace? (I've read a bit, but I'd like to hear it from teh pros)
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15:55.22WobinAce is basically a framework you can work from that does a few things like chatcommands or savedvariable operations for you
15:55.36Makkah, cool
15:55.41WobinOverall we try to promote good coding practices, and stuff
15:55.58Syzxis it possible to view the raw text that is send the chatframes? without color coding etc?
15:55.58hyperChipmunkwobbly!
15:55.58Makkok.
15:56.33WobinChipper!
15:56.49hyperChipmunk>8D
15:56.52WobinSyzx: View it where?
15:56.55hyperChipmunkwhere's my plowking
15:57.00Makkbtw, went over to oRA.. like omg :P
15:57.05Syzxdoesnt matter, as long as i can see special chars
15:57.05Mikma:D
15:57.14Mikmamt x2, good job guys and girls :D
15:57.29hasteElkano: what?
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15:57.50WobinSyzx: like?
15:57.59hyperChipmunkand anyway, that's why we all hate MoonWolf
15:58.28SyzxWobin: if people chat, their name is clickable etc. i want to know if there's any special code to make that happen
15:59.09Wobin|player:Wobin|h[Wobin]|h
15:59.11Wobinsomething like that
15:59.22Elkanohaste, forget it ^^ wanted to point you out on Optimus but was a) too late and b) had the wrong stuff in my buffer
15:59.31Wobinif you run the string through a replace and replace | with something, you could see it in the chatframe
15:59.56Syzxcheers
16:00.19hasteElkano: hokai
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16:07.17phyberok, new addon with crappy name for anyone to test if they want to.
16:07.18phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/WoW/DuraString.jpg
16:07.23phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/WoW/DuraString-1.zip
16:08.21hyperChipmunkgood deal
16:08.44phyberif anyone thinks of a nice name, let me know :)
16:08.56phybermaking it colour the text depending on the durability now.
16:09.08MoonWolfIndustrial, connecto to http://209.85.5.25:8000/ now
16:09.11MoonWolffor good music.
16:09.16phyberand adding an option to show it like 95%
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16:09.50Makkphyber: Dreadmist? O_o
16:10.29phyberonly two pieces of Dreadmist left
16:10.35phyberthe robe and mantle
16:10.41MakkYeah.
16:11.06Makkget Robe of the Void/Robe of Winter Night!
16:11.23phyberwaiting for Felheart Robe to drop. :)
16:11.34Makkmeh, I don't like it
16:11.45Makksure, +hit is good shit
16:11.53TainHold out for a Technicolor Dreamcoat.
16:12.12Makko_O
16:12.49Makkscrew the felheart bonuses, get Robe of Volatile Power
16:13.05Makkand the shoulderpads, hmmm..
16:14.29Makkthre are some +shadowdmg/spelldmg ones from scholo and/or strat
16:16.23Makkwhich professions do you have?
16:18.05phyberEnchanting / Tailoring
16:18.46Mikmagood ones ;)
16:23.51Makk:)
16:23.55MakkSo why not get RoTV?
16:24.06Makkit _owns_
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16:25.04MakkI stopped using mine a week ago - when I got Nemesis Robes
16:26.00NeronixIs it worth dropping something SOLELY to get tailoring to 300 and get rotv?
16:26.25steinorotv is good!
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16:26.47Mikmarotv?
16:26.56steinorobe of the void
16:26.58NeronixRobe of the Void
16:27.25Mikmacan't remember the stats of that :P
16:30.01IndustrialMoonWolf: sorry was in the train
16:30.36IndustrialMoonWolf: but in flames owns too
16:30.42Mikmachocolade-train?
16:30.50Industrialno the babes-train
16:30.52Makk18:32:01 < Mikma> can't remember the stats of that :P
16:30.59Makk+14 Stamina
16:31.03MakkEquip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 46.
16:31.06MakkUse: Heal your pet for 450 to 750.
16:31.19Mikmaso it's warlocks only
16:31.27Makkyup
16:31.30Industrialall those 19-23 year old hotties going home from work
16:31.38Industrial:+)
16:32.48Makk18:35:55 < Mikma> so it's warlocks only
16:32.53Makktoo bad it looks like shit
16:33.28phyberyay for CrayonLib :)
16:33.34phyberadded some colouring to the durabilities
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16:34.12AstrylKwak!
16:34.18AstrylRatbert_CP! Are you there?!
16:34.35AstrylRatbert_CP! Wake up, Ratbert_CP! You should respond!
16:36.14Ratbert_CPWhat?  Huh?
16:36.57Ratbert_CPOh...  In the lounge...
16:41.03AstrylRatbert!
16:41.06AstrylYou're alive!
16:41.28Astryl(Still alive? Did you run away again in the last 5 minutes while i've been distracted by work?)
16:44.59WobinOh google ads
16:45.06WobinYour targetting is so spot on:
16:45.06WobinTurtle
16:45.07WobinTried looking in your own backyard? The search engine for Australians!
16:48.08ElkanohyperChipmunk, any chance to have an option to force-check the battleground objectives? atm you have to wait until so attacks sth, haven't you?
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16:53.12IndustrialWobin: hehe
17:01.50TainFun Photoshop theme  http://www.worth1000.com/cache/contest/contestcache.asp?contest_id=10424&display=photoshop#entries
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17:02.55Kaeltenello
17:04.54TainHey Kaelten
17:05.01Kaeltenhey tain
17:06.52[MoonWolf]hello people
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17:07.06hasteCatalyst: Zone time: 0.591 sec
17:07.08hastemeep :<
17:07.17Wobinhehe
17:07.25WobinI like Madonna and Incredible Child
17:07.43MoonwolfI like a lot of metal/gothic/weird stuff
17:10.41Wobinhokay
17:10.43Wobingoing to nap
17:10.48Wobinhopefully to sleep
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17:13.52phyberok, I call this durability thing "Fizzle", because I suck at naming. :)
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17:20.57Ratbert_CPStoopid KC_ET...
17:23.57Ratbert_CPBulkMail suxxors...  ;)
17:24.26hasteblame hC
17:24.38Ratbert_CPOh, I do... I do...
17:24.42Ratbert_CP;)
17:24.55Tainoh man I need one of these
17:24.56Tainhttp://www.everythingusb.com/usb_air_darts.html
17:24.57Ratbert_CPjust as I blame Kaelten for KCET
17:25.15Kaeltenwhat did I do?
17:25.43Kaeltenwhats wrong with KCET?
17:26.32Ratbert_CPAfter I "Create All", KCET still shows "[1]"
17:26.47Ratbert_CPClear the cache, and it's properly reset to [0]
17:26.52Kaeltenthen hit the clear cache
17:27.04Ratbert_CPFor every damned item, every damned time?  ;)
17:27.37Ratbert_CPOne would think that an action that has to be performed consistiently would be automated... ;)
17:27.54Kaeltenwell the purpose of that butotn is to make it usable while I track down the cause
17:28.00Kaeltenyou can right click to clear every item
17:28.23AstrylRat, Conner says Marius is still around, but doesn't play games anymore.
17:28.35Ratbert_CPAh...  That explains a it.  Never mind...
17:29.29Ratbert_CPNeither do I...  Well, I play at coding addons for WoW, and I recently installed Guild Wars...  :)
17:29.45AstrylWhat addons?
17:30.12Ratbert_CPBagBoy.  Although I did a lot of coding for FlexBar shortly after the original dev dropped it.
17:30.21Tainhehe I like how you termed that, "I play at coding addons..."  So accurate for most of us. :)
17:31.35AstrylThere are several Plaidies that play WoW, you should go say hi...
17:31.45AstrylAsking Conner about what server/names...
17:32.58Astrylwow.clanplaid.net
17:33.25IndustrialTain: /agree
17:34.00Ratbert_CPTain: It's also what I did with NWN.  Never played too much, but enjoyed the heck out of the toolset...
17:37.55TainYeah me too.
17:43.02Ratbert_CPBouncing connection to avoid non-svn helpin' proxy...
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17:48.56Ratbert_CPhyperChipmunk: You around?
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17:51.03Amadeo_hola
17:51.16Kaeltenis it sad that I'm setting up svn as a substitute for ftp connections
17:52.24hyperChipmunkRatbert_CP: yes
17:53.38CIA-1703ratbert * r2212 10BagBoy/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
17:53.38CIA-17BagBoy:
17:53.38CIA-17Finally got away from new AceGUI files. Now I just fix the functions.
17:53.38CIA-17This means that any AceGUI'd addon that loads after BagBoy gets the fixed functions, but not those before. (I think, I'm assuming that the functions are copied over, not referenced)
17:54.26hyperChipmunkO_o
17:54.32Ratbert_CPBulkMail doesn't do anything for me. Not that I find it boring, but that it doesn't *do* anything for me.
17:54.48Kaeltenthey're referenced ratbert
17:54.50KaeltenI think
17:55.08Ratbert_CPHeh...
17:55.33Ratbert_CPOh well, not that 98% of the users know or care... :)
17:55.42Kaeltenheh
17:56.01Kaeltento be honest I need to find someone willing to help improve and fix up the current branch of AceGUI
17:56.09Ratbert_CPhyperChipmunk: The GUI is always empty, and even though there are items in the autosend list, nothing ever happens when I open a mailbox
17:56.16Kaeltenat least until we get the new one working right
17:56.19hyperChipmunkRatbert_CP: hrm
17:56.21hyperChipmunkohh
17:56.23Ratbert_CPIsn't someone Loa-coding it?
17:56.34KaeltenLoa-coding?
17:56.41Ratbert_CPs/Loa/Lua/
17:56.50hyperChipmunkdo you use any bagmods? if so, do they handle GetID() correctly?
17:56.53Kaeltenwell tem is working on the new branch
17:57.01Ratbert_CPi.e., removing all the XML
17:57.06TemI am
17:57.13Kaeltenbut that won't be ready for a little bit
17:57.15Ratbert_CPhyperChipmunk: Hmmm... I'm using Bagnon...
17:57.24KaeltenI need someone to fix the current branch for 1.11 though
17:57.25hyperChipmunkought to work with bagnon
17:57.36hyperChipmunkyou have wow open atm?
17:57.44hyperChipmunkoh, how recently have you updated bagnon
17:57.49Kaeltenhehe
17:57.52Kaeltenits on my todo list,
17:57.55KaeltenI'm just busy :)
17:58.05hyperChipmunkhe only added proper GetID in the last release
17:58.25Ratbert_CP"Proper" GetID?
17:58.27Kaeltenanyone know the syntax to do a checkout via svn on a bash shell?
17:58.40Industrialman svn? :E
18:00.29hyperChipmunksvn co <URL>
18:00.49Kaeltenkk
18:00.57Kaeltenwritting a post commit hook for something :)
18:01.02IndustrialI need a media player for windows that isnt: windows media player (obvious), VLC (crashes, playlist sucks), winamp (way too commercialized), itunes (EWW, ditto), sonique (hehe, too old) or songbird (see itunes, but open source (also crashes))
18:01.27Amadeo_Foobar2000?
18:01.29hyperChipmunkwhy didn't you just say 'popular'
18:01.40Industrialah foobar
18:01.43Industrialtotally forgot
18:01.46Industrial*downloads*
18:01.50Industrialis the 0.9 there yet?
18:01.53Amadeo_yep
18:01.58Amadeo_supports .wma
18:01.59Industrial\o/
18:02.13Industrialhurray
18:02.26Amadeo_I think anyway
18:02.47Amadeo_hm
18:02.50Amadeo_maybe not, I thought ti did though
18:03.10hyperChipmunkRatbert_CP: meaning container item frames have the GetID() value of their slot, and bags have a GetID() value of the bag number, so that doing GetContainerItemInfo(foo:GetParent():GetID(), foo:GetID()) works
18:03.15Industrialyeah
18:03.24Industrial< hyperChipmunk> why didn't you just say 'popular' ?
18:03.35IndustrialhyperChipmunk: i really mean commercialized
18:03.42hyperChipmunkyou need a media player for windows that isn't: popular
18:03.46hyperChipmunkwould have worked just the same
18:03.54IndustrialhyperChipmunk: about 3 versions ago or so they 'revamped' the media library
18:03.57Industrialits all sucky now
18:04.23Industrialor at least the web radio thing
18:05.00Amadeo_I hate iTunes
18:05.03Amadeo_it runs like ass
18:06.59TainIt does, but it has the best playlist support of anything I've used.  For my personal preferences.
18:07.11Amadeo_Playlist support how?
18:07.13Industrialcheck out songbird then
18:07.13TainOf course I don't actually use iTunes to play.
18:07.18Industrialits like itunes, but open source
18:07.21TainSongbird is barely functional.
18:07.27Industrial:<
18:07.29TainCreating dynamic playlists.
18:07.49Amadeo_Can you do it with foobar?
18:08.09Amadeo_i don't even use playlists, haha
18:08.39TainIt's not worth even trying any of the "bigger" ones if you just click and play music.
18:08.47TainWhich really is what I do most of the time these days.
18:08.55Amadeo_yeah, I agree
18:09.02Amadeo_and that's all I do :)
18:09.07Amadeo_I like something that opens quickly
18:09.12Amadeo_since I don't have it open all the time
18:09.58Amadeo_I had found some really cool media players similar to iTunes a while back, but they're buggy also
18:10.01IndustrialI like playlists
18:10.08IndustrialI like them in foobar as little tabs
18:10.21Industrialmetal: all, metal: fav, industrial: all
18:10.22Industrialetc
18:10.27Industriali just pick one and set it on random
18:10.53TainYeah that's the thing, I mostly play entire albums, in order.
18:11.06Amadeo_Same, if they have an .m3u, I use it
18:11.11Amadeo_if not, I'm too lazy to make my own playlist
18:11.23hastemeep meep
18:11.23Industrialctrl+a, enter :P
18:11.38Industrialhaste: toot toot
18:11.52Industrialhaste: whens the grim batlo move? damn queue
18:11.56Ratbert_CPhyperChipmunk: Just installed the latest Bagnon, and no luck...  Let me disable Bagnon
18:12.15Industrialmm wobin left :(
18:12.25Industrialwasnt he working on an assorted bag addon?
18:12.36hasteIndustrial: it currently is
18:13.08Industrialhaste: hope alot of people will move. or are you? (then ill join :P)
18:13.11Amadeo_hm, interesting
18:13.16Amadeo_anyone ever try 'XMplay'?
18:13.20Industrialnop
18:13.35Industrial\o/
18:13.41*** join/#wowace ag` (n=Andreas@0x50c4844b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk)
18:14.23hastedamn you ag!
18:14.27hasteI have a question for you!
18:14.32hastestop running away!
18:14.48hasteIndustrial: well, some have moved at least ;D
18:14.53Industrialk
18:16.39Ratbert_CPhyperChipmunk: It was Bagnon...  Even the current version breaks BulkMail
18:16.47Amadeo_don't bother with XMplay, it sucks
18:16.47Amadeo_13% CPU util to play one song
18:16.47Amadeo_foobar uses 0-2%
18:17.06Industrialhaste: im going to try making a 'can castle/wall' again :P
18:17.09Industrialgot 40 cans
18:18.48hyperChipmunkinteresting
18:19.10hyperChipmunkcould you do me a favor, rat?
18:20.06hastewtf?
18:20.19Ratbert_CPSure...
18:21.07hyperChipmunkcan you do a table.getn on BulkMail.containerFrames before and after you open the mailbox and tell me the values?
18:21.11Kaeltenwhat'd I do?
18:21.35Industrialhaste: red bull cans :D
18:21.45Industrialhaste: wash and glue :P
18:21.57Ratbert_CPMaybe it isn't KCI, but there's a tooltip.lua that's causing BullkMail to puke on a tooltip...
18:22.15haste:p
18:22.21Ratbert_CPWith or without bagnon?
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18:22.27hyperChipmunkwith, sorry
18:22.44hyperChipmunker, rat
18:22.46KaeltenI think someone mentioned that to me before
18:22.47Ratbert_CPYo
18:22.49hyperChipmunkhow old is your bulkmail
18:23.33Ratbert_CPv.1843
18:23.59hyperChipmunker, yea
18:24.15hyperChipmunkok, before you do anything, I fixed bagnon support like a week ago
18:24.26hyperChipmunkand the current version is 2157
18:24.45hyperChipmunktry it with that, if ya would =P
18:24.54hyperChipmunkit's on wowi if you don't want to svn it
18:25.09Ratbert_CPYeah, yeah...  I mangled my BulkMail svn trying to get around the corp firewall
18:25.25hyperChipmunk=x
18:25.29hyperChipmunkisn't svn port 80?
18:26.21Ratbert_CPYeah, but I was trying to tunnel via ssh over a socks connection to allw me to commit...
18:26.40Ratbert_CPAnyway, now I just get errors after I send everything.
18:26.53hyperChipmunkoh?
18:26.58Ratbert_CPgui.lua:77: bad argument #1 to `find' (string expected, got nil)
18:26.58Ratbert_CPgui.lua:136: bad argument #1 to `find' (string expected, got nil)
18:27.25Ratbert_CPAdmittedly, I'm clicking "Send" on a item that's no longer in my inventory...
18:27.49hyperChipmunk=x
18:27.52Ratbert_CPRe-opening the BM gui no longer shows the item...
18:28.07hyperChipmunkas it shouldn't
18:28.40Ratbert_CPRight.  But after I send the item, it still shows in the gui until I close/open it.
18:28.45hyperChipmunkhum
18:29.00Ratbert_CPAre you using AceGUI>
18:29.07Ratbert_CPs/>/?/
18:29.07hyperChipmunkyes
18:29.27Ratbert_CPI wonder if my AceGUIListBox.lua fixes broke something...
18:29.49*** join/#wowace Tem (n=Tem@204.90.50.252)
18:29.49*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ
18:30.37AstrylShit, it's Tem! Run!
18:31.18Temmeow
18:31.42AstrylHeh\
18:33.42Ratbert_CPDang!  Gotta run!
18:38.01Amadeo_kwax?
18:38.03Amadeo_like Aflac?
18:38.23AstrylPlural of Kwak = Kwax.
18:38.31AstrylNot that it's really plural.
18:38.56AstrylI guess it'd be the current tense verb?
18:39.06AstrylRun:Runs::Kwak:Kwax
18:39.16Amadeo_I bet the plural of Astral is Astryl!
18:39.46AstrylNo, but the plural of Astryl is Astrylai.
18:39.57Amadeo_haha
18:40.37AstrylHow many Astrylai can you fit inside a phone booth?
18:41.00AstrylNobody knows; there's only one Astryl with which to test.
18:41.48Amadeo_I think phone booths are a myth
18:41.51Amadeo_I've never seen one
18:41.59Amadeo_only pictures!
18:42.22NeronixAmadeo_!
18:42.27NeronixGo give NSFu a test!
18:42.35Amadeo_it exists now eh?
18:42.36AstrylSounds like you're smarter than the average Amadeo.
18:42.38Neronixyeah
18:42.44Amadeo_nice
18:42.52Neronixit doesn't display any data in the panel yet, but the tooltip works
18:42.57Amadeo_cool :)
18:43.14Neronixyou can even detach it and have it work like regular NS, but that's really unnecessary :P
18:43.43Amadeo_is it called NSFu or NeroStatsFu?
18:43.50NeronixNanoStatsFu
18:43.53NeronixNANO >.>
18:44.07Amadeo_oops
18:44.08Amadeo_nano :)
18:44.20NeronixFuBar_NanoStatsFu on the SVN
18:44.45Amadeo_yep, getting it now
18:46.00Industrialckknight_: you there? :d
18:46.09Industrialprolly asleep
18:46.11Slaymanckknight_: u gotta be fucking kidding me another new lib? that's making me crazy
18:46.35Amadeo_oh it needs NS too?
18:46.47NeronixAmadeo_: Yeah
18:46.54Amadeo_kk
18:47.01Neronixit's not standalone, it plugs into NS with minimum overhead
18:47.13Neronixit uses the same code that NS uses for tablet and dropdown menu creation
18:47.26NeronixSlayman: ?
18:48.51SlaymanNeronix: ignore me plz
18:49.08NeronixWhat new lib? O.o
18:56.13phyberwho can setup SVN accounts?  I want to dump Fizzle on there.
18:56.30Industrialclad|work:
18:56.32hyperChipmunksend email to cladhaire@gmail.com
18:56.38phyberok, thanks :)
18:56.49Amadeo_Neronix: I'm on PTR, doesn't seem to be working
18:58.43NeronixLemme check on live
18:58.58NeronixDon't think the API changes would have affected me at all
19:00.36NeronixHmm..
19:00.43NeronixWhat exactly is the problem?
19:00.51Neronixdoes it not appear on FuBar at all?
19:03.09Neronix~poke Amadeo_
19:03.11purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Amadeo_, pokes Amadeo_ repeatedly, hilarity ensues
19:04.43Amadeo_it's on FuBar but the stats aren't showing
19:04.45Amadeo_just says no data
19:05.23NeronixDid you actually go fight something?
19:06.01NeronixAnd is NS on standby?
19:06.25Amadeo_I'm on my Priest, just healing
19:06.27Amadeo_hm ,lemme see
19:06.41Amadeo_nope
19:06.51Amadeo_could be a 1.11 issue though
19:06.59NeronixDid you update both NS and NSFu?
19:07.16Amadeo_yah
19:07.41Amadeo_actually
19:07.45Amadeo_it says 0 damage 0 healing now
19:07.50Amadeo_instead of go fight something
19:08.09NeronixHmm
19:08.11Amadeo_I gotta afk a few though! brb
19:08.19NeronixI'll go install the patch then
19:09.13ckknight_hey all
19:09.20ckknight_Slayman, what new lib?
19:12.47Industrialhm
19:12.52Industrialgot thrown out of the server
19:16.36NeronixOh god
19:16.46NeronixI actually watched the UK's entry for Eurovision
19:16.54Neronix15 seconds into it, I'm crying in embarassment
19:17.10NeronixMy country voted for THAT... indescribable HORROR!?
19:17.38Neronixvoted for that... SICKENING TURD to represent us!?
19:18.12NeronixThanks YouTube for committing the unforgivable sin of archiving it!
19:21.13ckknightturd?
19:22.03Neronixturd = shit
19:22.22ckknightwell, yes
19:22.28ckknightwhat was it?
19:22.56NeronixIt's a song
19:23.00Neronixor at least it was supposed to be
19:38.04Amadeo_Neronix
19:38.11Amadeo_it seemed to start working after I dealt damage instead of just healing
19:40.54Industrialim ashamed of finland
19:40.54Industrialand im not even from there
19:40.54Industrialif you are going to put a metal band on there
19:40.58Industrialfor gods sake not a kiss meets gwar gay pussy shit
19:40.59Industrialthing
19:41.00CIA-1703ckknight * r2213 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua: GloryLib - changed some data-saving logic.
19:41.01Industrialbanf
19:41.03Industrialband*
19:41.05Industrial><
19:41.14NeronixAmadeo_: Weird...
19:41.19Neronixto double check,
19:41.20Industrialfinland has some genius musicians
19:41.29Neronixdo /script NanoStatsConfig = nil
19:41.38Neronixand /script NanoStatsFuConfig = nil
19:41.52Neronixthen reload and see if it works normally after that
19:42.30ckknightwhat function opens the map?
19:42.43ckknighti.e. what's called when you press 'm'?
19:44.01Mikmayello
19:44.07NeronixToggleWorldMap()
19:44.11ckknightthanks
19:44.14Neronixnp
19:47.33Mikmahey ppl, tell me a good name for rave/trance happening
19:48.17Ratbert_CP"I have X, wanna f*$k?"
19:48.56TainDisco Inferno
19:49.29Mikmawell the thing is this party will be clean, no drugs, only some minor booze or so hehe
19:49.41TainWhat's the point then!
19:49.50Mikmamusic and dance
19:49.55Mikmawithout drugs
19:49.58Mikmaand sex
19:50.04TainYou have an intriguing concept.
19:50.49Ratbert_CPSounds like an iPod...
19:51.11TainRatbert has a good point, I have swung my opinion back.
19:54.16MikmaiPod - no drugs or sex, just music and dance
19:54.23CIA-1703ckknight * r2214 10JostleLib/Lib/JostleLib.lua: JostleLib - now auto-refreshes after the world map opens/closes.
19:54.45ckknightsounds pretty lame to me
19:55.14TainWait now I'm confused, will your rave have sex or not?
19:58.34IndustrialTain: no booze no sex
20:00.31TainYou may as well remove oxygen next!
20:07.51phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/WoW/FizzlePerc.jpg http://cardboardium.com/WoW/FizzleRaw.jpg
20:08.03phyber:)
20:08.06phyberwas fun to do.
20:11.43Temphyber: you write an addon to show durability percents and raw info over each item?
20:13.07phyberTem: yeah
20:13.12Mikmaoxygen
20:13.13Mikmahmm
20:13.43Temkewl
20:13.45phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/WoW/Fizzle-1.zip is where it is right now.  I'll put it on SVN when I can too.
20:14.10Temk
20:15.09phyberI wanted that feature for a long time, and today was the day to do it :)
20:18.03Industriali like it
20:18.21phyberthanks :)
20:23.41*** join/#wowace Lucen (n=Lucen@pool-68-237-211-4.ny325.east.verizon.net)
20:24.33Temme too,
20:24.47TemI still need a name for my item tracker
20:24.48Mikmaoh lookie, it's lucen!
20:25.07Lucenhowdy
20:25.43MikmaTem: iTem Tracker
20:26.02Tembut, I don't release under "tem"
20:26.17Mikmait's iTem, not tem ;)
20:26.26Temyou guys and my guild are the only ones that know me as "Tem"
20:26.35Temthe rest of the world knows me as tardmrr
20:26.42Temso the pun is wasted
20:27.09Mikmawell, name it Beaver
20:28.01TainOk I know everyone finds hundreds of silly online video clips every day but this one was fun to me.  Dropping Cesium in a bathtub.
20:28.02Tainhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2134266654801392897&q=alkali
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20:31.26CIA-1703ckknight * r2215 10AbacusLib/Lib/AbacusLib.lua: AbacusLib - fixed formatting of money that would cause "-1s -1c" instead of "-1s 1c"
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20:33.00Mikmawe've got explosives!
20:33.08MoonWolfgood
20:35.29ckknightfun
20:36.47TemTain: thanks for linking that.  I've been wanting to see Cs explode a bathtub since 10th grade chemestry.
20:37.09MoonWolfcan i get the link too ?
20:38.04Mikma<2328> <Tain> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2134266654801392897&q=alkali
20:38.05Gngsknever mix alkali metals with water!
20:38.27MoonWolfOOOH
20:38.34MoonWolfbrainiac, and alkali's and water.
20:38.38MoonWolfit cant get better.
20:40.27MoonWolfWEEE
20:42.30hyperChipmunkkaboooooom!
20:42.33Mikmawell it can if you get me mythbusters season2 dvd ;)
20:43.03MoonWolfwhat do they blow up there ?
20:43.20hyperChipmunkmmm, Lithium
20:44.15Mikmano! bathrubs ;)
20:44.21Mikmaomg, tubstubs
20:44.55TainI have to admit, I knew Cs would react big-time but I've never actually seen any real example of what it would do.  That was nice.
20:45.08Mikmai bet those tubs were plastic :P
20:46.26MoonWolffor safety reasons
20:46.35phyberI don't know where MoneyFu is getting it's figures from, but it's really broken recently.
20:46.46phyberit says I've spent 4098G today.
20:47.06phyberand 6826G this week
20:47.24MoonWolfThe water might absorb a lot, but the raction may verywell be so violent that keramic would blow right through that caravan.
20:48.36Mikmawell that's the whole idea of exploding stuff!
20:48.39Mikmadamage!
20:48.53MoonWolfNot when you crew is IN the caravan.
20:49.06Mikmawho told them to go in there! bastards
20:51.31MoonWolfWTB: vorpal arrows.
20:55.46CIA-1703shyva * r2216 10BigWigs/BWL/Flamegor.lua: BigWigs: Enable trigger is Flamegor, not Flamegore!
21:01.15Industrialwhat level do i enter hillsbrad/
21:01.23Industrialat what*
21:01.36kergothi think its around 20
21:02.23Industriali have lv 10,  hour to grind
21:02.24Industrial:p
21:02.28Industrials/have/am
21:02.32Mikmahillsbrad... meet me in there with pvp on Industrial ;)
21:03.16Industrial:p
21:03.23IndustrialThis is on grim batol
21:03.24Industrial:X
21:04.16steino:)
21:05.01Mikmaboo!
21:19.18Industrialmaybe later colored nicks
21:22.59IndustrialItemtrackingFu
21:23.01Industrialta-dah
21:23.11Mikmanice, my blizzdownloader want's to download 97.9MB but it's not allowed to
21:23.27Industrialhow is it not allowed to
21:25.31MoonWolfSephiroth!
21:25.48IndustrialMoonWolf: hey cool
21:25.54MoonWolf?
21:25.54Industrialerr Mikma
21:25.59Industrialmine wants to download too
21:26.01Industrial:p
21:26.09MoonWolfpatch coming soon.
21:28.10kergothpatch?
21:28.22MoonWolfthe blizzdownloader has stuff to download
21:28.36MoonWolfto me that means a patch is coming soon.
21:28.39clad|gym1.11 textures imo
21:28.40MoonWolfmight yust be me.
21:28.48clad|gymnah, just means they went gold on part of the patch
21:29.00clad|gymits no more of an indicator than the PTR being open imo
21:29.52MoonWolfhey, you should be working out!
21:30.00clad|gymi am
21:30.05clad|gymfingers.. typing.. so difficult.
21:30.13MoonWolfhehe
21:30.19hyperChipmunk-D
21:32.43IndustrialI want to match '[<number>.<more then one character>]' where number is 1-7 and replace that with '[<number>]'; 'text = string.gsub(text, '[(%d)%..+]', '[%1]')', is that ok?
21:32.59Industrialcuz it aint work'n
21:35.22Neronix`afk[] defines character sets in patterns
21:35.27Neronix`afkdo %[ and %] instead
21:36.41MakkI need an addon to hide the default buff frame - anyone knows one?
21:36.47Mikmawatchdog
21:36.51IndustrialNeronix: oh oopsy
21:36.53MoonWolfOnly hide ?
21:37.01Makkor just disable it
21:37.19Industrial<PROTECTED>
21:37.35MikmaMakk: watchdog :)
21:37.48Mikmait also has other lovely features in it
21:37.59Mikmai'm using it to display my partymembers
21:38.11Makkusing oUF for that
21:38.11Makk:P
21:38.28IndustrialMakk: do you use visor?
21:38.41Industrialyou can grab frame names with it when you hover over a frame
21:38.54Industrialjust make an addon that hides all those frames..
21:39.07MoonWolfor the parent
21:39.08Mikma<PROTECTED>
21:39.09Mikmahehe
21:39.09Makkdon't know LUA yet :)
21:39.19IndustrialMikma: oh :E
21:39.26Makk3rd!
21:39.30MikmaIndustrial: i _don't_ know does it work
21:39.37Mikmai threw it out of my mind
21:39.43Industrialya
21:40.18haste/vz set f=BuffFrame h=TRUE
21:40.25Makkwtb not having to restart game to install addons
21:40.52MikmaMakk: <0039> <Mikma>  /script BuffFrame:Hide() , or with visor <0040> <haste> /vz set f=BuffFrame h=TRUE
21:41.24Mikmaby that way you don't have to restart it now ;)
21:41.38Makk:P
21:45.34Makkace alternatives to cleanminimap?
21:45.42IndustrialidMinimap
21:45.50IndustrialOh, need to upload that :<
21:45.57Makk^^
21:46.00Mikma<PROTECTED>
21:46.00Makkplease do
21:47.48Makkwiki.wowace.com/index.php/IdMinimap
21:47.49Makkhah
21:53.24Industrialalmost done
21:54.09IndustrialBy the way, I made it how I like it, it might not have stuff that other addon does, and vise versa
21:55.57Industrialrighto works
21:56.00Industrialzipping
21:58.36Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/idMinimap-11000-1.7z
21:59.13hasteit does what now?
21:59.26Industrialsame
21:59.31Industrialbut no ace
21:59.32Industrial:E
21:59.33hastemeep?
21:59.52Industrialhaste: took my stuff off wowi, forgot to upload this to my webspace
22:00.15IndustrialMakk: tah-dah
22:00.21IndustrialMakk: tell me if you get any errors
22:05.16hastewhy take it of WoWI :o?
22:08.00Cairennbecause god forbid he should even sneeze in the direction that IGE may or may not be in
22:09.28haste*confused*
22:09.37Cairennnm
22:09.45Cairennjust being pissy
22:10.09haste~cookie Cairenn
22:10.10CairennI apologize
22:10.35Cairenn*blink*
22:10.41Astryl...
22:10.42hasteaaw, I was hoping it would give you a cookie
22:10.59Industrial~emulate Cairenn
22:11.00purlACTION purrs
22:11.06Industrial:-)
22:11.08hastehehe
22:13.30Industrial<-- bed
22:14.27IndustrialCairenn: I'm sorry I offended you, but that's not the only reason. I also just cant handle user input right now. I had feature requests from january ;)
22:14.48IndustrialCairenn: I really am
22:14.50Industrial<-- bed
22:19.56[Ammo]finally yay, twin emps down
22:29.08hastegrats [Ammo]
22:29.11hastewhat drops?
22:29.13hasteand what tactic?
22:29.24hasteand: Catalyst: Zone time: 0.831
22:29.27[Ammo]the caster boots, healer bracelets
22:29.44[Ammo]tactic was I pull the casterboss till teleport, then warriors take over
22:29.47[Ammo]melee dps take it down
22:30.01[Ammo]with the casters occasionaly throwing a bolt at the casteremperor
22:30.03hastewarlock/warrior tank?
22:30.11[Ammo]only warlock for the initial pull
22:30.15hasteoh
22:30.15[Ammo]after that it's not needed
22:30.23hasteWe use Warlock / Warrior
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22:30.51[Ammo]warlock warrior is too complicated for some of our healers :p
22:31.07hastehehe
22:31.07[Ammo]and I like simple strats
22:31.17[Ammo]felt good downing them finally
22:31.29[Ammo]went 70% 37% 2% dead
22:31.32hasteI have the soundclip from Vt when we killed them :p
22:31.37CairennIndustrial: I know you said my name a couple times but I didn't get to see it, my computer messed up and needed to be rebooted .... repeat, please?
22:31.52[Ammo][00:14] < Industrial> Cairenn: I'm sorry I offended you, but that's not the only reason. I also just cant handle user input right now. I had feature requests from january ;)
22:31.55[Ammo][00:14] < Industrial> Cairenn: I really am
22:31.58[Ammo][00:14] < Industrial> <-- bed
22:32.06Cairenncrap
22:32.13Cairennthat I missed him, I mean
22:32.51[Ammo]the 2% wipe was due to enrage :(
22:32.57[Ammo]we lost 3 melee chars from the start of the fight
22:33.34[Ammo]so we werent fast enough
22:33.40[Ammo]final takedown, was 1 death, but we didn't have combat resses ;)
22:33.55[Ammo]so the priest just stayed dead from 20% -0
22:33.57hastewe had a really smooth kill when we did it live
22:34.09[Ammo]this one was real smooth as well
22:34.10hasteno one died, and the tank was basicly always 50% HP+
22:34.11[Ammo]only 1 dead
22:35.12hasteI feel like such a power leveler now
22:35.24hasteactually took time to play and not code much today
22:35.35hasteL30 -> L35
22:36.30[Ammo]hehe
22:36.39[Ammo]I did L32->33 on my pally today
22:36.45*** join/#wowace Galka- (n=Galka@pool-72-88-140-235.nwrknj.east.verizon.net)
22:36.46[Ammo]and killed a 60 UD warlock :p
22:36.53[Ammo]that guy was such a nubber
22:36.57[Ammo]letting me kill him
22:37.00hastePaladins are starting to annoy me actually
22:37.09[Ammo]he probably thought I was kidding
22:37.10hasteespecially after I played Alliance on PTR
22:37.23hasteraiding for alliance is so much simpler :<
22:37.36[Ammo]lets not start that argument
22:37.37hasteand no reason to bring pots 'cause of the judgment or whatever
22:37.40hasteI'm not :p
22:37.47hasteor.. acutally I am
22:37.51hastebut still.. I'll stop ^^
22:37.52[Ammo]yeah you are, lets not
22:37.55[Ammo]:)
22:38.04[Ammo]lets agree it's different for both sides
22:39.06[Ammo]time for bed now
22:39.15[Ammo]later ~
22:39.31hastegn
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22:45.04hyperChipmunkwb
22:45.43Makk00:04:51 < Industrial> Makk: tah-dah
22:45.43Makk00:04:57 < Industrial> Makk: tell me if you get any errors
22:45.45Makkthanks :)
23:01.21MakkIndustrial: No problems so far
23:01.39Amadeo_bah, I'll say it's easier for Alliance too :)
23:14.59Amadeo_What's the best gnutella app?
23:17.22NeronixAmadeo_: Were you in combat while doing the healing?
23:17.28NeronixIt doesn't count if you're not
23:18.21Amadeo_Neronix: I'm not sure, I was PvPing
23:18.26Amadeo_so I was healing people getting beat on
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23:21.05Amadeo_does it work in PvP?
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23:23.06NeronixIt should, but not very well
23:23.18Neronixbecause of how begin/end combat events work
23:23.23Neronixit's unfixable
23:24.42NeronixFor example
23:24.53Neronixyou have a few dots on some dude and he runs away from you
23:25.11Neronixthe game flags conbat as off, even though your dots are still going
23:25.17Amadeo_I see
23:25.19Amadeo_yeah
23:25.31Neronixand because NS stops processing a battle when combat ends, it won't recognise the still-ticking dots
23:25.32Amadeo_it wasn't showing anything for some reason though, in WSG
23:25.41Amadeo_but this mob came into Stormwind
23:25.44Amadeo_and I was healing/dealing damage
23:25.46Amadeo_and it was working then
23:25.58NeronixHopw often do those scourge attacks happen?
23:26.20Amadeo_Not sure, all the time when I log in
23:26.50NeronixSeen 2 in UC and I made a feeble attempt to tank the big guy each time
23:27.07Neronixfeeble because I've never taken a warrior past lv12 :P
23:27.29Amadeo_hah
23:27.49NeronixI only copied a warrior to see how fun they are, which is kinda hard to judge if you can't play the class
23:28.14Amadeo_haha
23:28.19Amadeo_the Warriors there are geared all for PvE
23:28.39NeronixAnd I STILL somehow pulled aggro off the rogues and shammies that were already there for 5 mins before I arrived
23:28.59NeronixBut the damn fear spam ruined that :P
23:29.25NeronixOh, here they come again
23:30.40Amadeo_rofl
23:55.33CodayusYeah...the premades aren't particularly good for testing what being "class X" is like...
23:55.58CodayusAnd, of course, being on a premade of a class you've never got to 60 is pretty bad for testing new content.  :-)
23:57.05Kyahxlies!  stab stab eviscerate done
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23:57.12Kyahxsome classes aren't hard =P

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