| 00:00.16 | Industrial | Syzx: and it did before? :D |
| 00:01.05 | Tain | Now that's just a disturbing desktop: http://www.samurize.com/userfiles/18187/WoWConfigSS.jpg |
| 00:01.15 | Syzx | yeah, i'll try to disable everything except your mods |
| 00:02.12 | Industrial | Tain: eww :| |
| 00:02.28 | Industrial | Syzx: you could disable the timestamps see if its that |
| 00:02.38 | Industrial | thats the only one changing text |
| 00:03.55 | Syzx | Industrial: it's the timestamps :( |
| 00:04.37 | Industrial | Syzx: thought so |
| 00:04.42 | Industrial | *todo* |
| 00:05.30 | Industrial | its 2 am, ill do that tomorrow |
| 00:05.35 | Syzx | haha, k |
| 00:06.44 | Amadeo- | wow |
| 00:06.48 | Amadeo- | that's the best desktop I've ever seen |
| 00:07.07 | Amadeo- | ...to be replaced with a new one |
| 00:09.20 | haste | Syzx: %% is your friend |
| 00:10.00 | Syzx | string.format('%s %s', date('%H:%M:%S') i'd replace %s with %%s? |
| 00:10.28 | haste | meep %% = % |
| 00:12.50 | Amadeo- | brb |
| 00:21.42 | *** join/#wowace Mikma (i=mikma@reaktio.net) |
| 00:23.29 | Tekkub | *yawn* |
| 00:24.10 | Syzx | Industrial if i may ask, why do you use pattern matching if all you do is add something in front of a string? :) started yesterday with lua and am trying to learn it :P |
| 00:24.26 | Mikma | good evening folks |
| 00:24.54 | Mikma | it's lovely sundaynight at 03:24am and the weather is... dark |
| 00:25.04 | Industrial | satrdaynight |
| 00:25.38 | Mikma | saturday/sunday |
| 00:26.07 | Mikma | i just realized how good shadowpriest is in pvp |
| 00:26.07 | Industrial | Syzx: YOu are right |
| 00:26.26 | Industrial | Syzx: Its like that though because I had it set up differently |
| 00:27.02 | Industrial | it looped over a table with regex keys and function values |
| 00:27.15 | Syzx | ah, right. you ripped your mod apart :) |
| 00:27.26 | Industrial | in preparation of things like the chat channel shortening |
| 00:27.27 | Mikma | Industrial: your addons at wowinterface.com? |
| 00:27.31 | Industrial | but now i spearated it |
| 00:27.39 | Industrial | Mikma: I'm taking them off |
| 00:27.55 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/ |
| 00:27.55 | Mikma | Industrial: too bad, was going to test em :P |
| 00:28.03 | Industrial | Mikma: going back to my own hosting |
| 00:28.19 | Industrial | text = string.gsub(text, '^(.+)$', string.format('%s %s', date('%H:%M:%S'), text)) |
| 00:28.27 | Mikma | i wanna check out your actionbar addon :) |
| 00:28.51 | Industrial | text = string.format('%s %s', date('%H:%M:%S'), text) |
| 00:28.53 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:29.06 | Industrial | Mikma: its not much atm, but its all i need personally |
| 00:29.31 | Industrial | works good for me :> |
| 00:29.49 | Mikma | hum, what kind of archive is that file? |
| 00:30.22 | Industrial | 7zip |
| 00:30.44 | haste | 7-zip is nice |
| 00:30.48 | Industrial | current king of file crunchers |
| 00:30.50 | Industrial | and open source |
| 00:30.52 | Industrial | :D |
| 00:30.56 | haste | but I still haven't compiled it |
| 00:30.57 | Mikma | don't have it on mac so i'll have to skip :P |
| 00:31.08 | Industrial | buh ompile it |
| 00:31.13 | Industrial | compile* |
| 00:31.15 | Mikma | nah, i'll google it |
| 00:31.19 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:31.59 | Industrial | http://homepage.mac.com/krmathis/applications/p7zip-4.39.dmg |
| 00:33.18 | Mikma | btw xmen3 wasn't that good :8 |
| 00:34.16 | haste | Industrial: MEEP!!! |
| 00:34.21 | haste | I'll do it next time I su |
| 00:34.28 | Tekkub | meh, it's got beast, I could care less |
| 00:35.13 | Mikma | have you seen it yet? |
| 00:35.33 | Tekkub | no, in a few weeks, got company coming out next month |
| 00:35.34 | Syzx | Industrial: It's timestamping my combat log too, intended or a bonus feature? -.- |
| 00:36.18 | haste | why not in the combat log also? |
| 00:36.18 | Industrial | sorry my net just fell |
| 00:36.34 | Industrial | I dont use the combat log myself... |
| 00:36.38 | Industrial | its just a chat window |
| 00:36.49 | Industrial | its not *special* is it? (i dont know) |
| 00:37.39 | Syzx | well, i used to have nurfed. if i recall correct my combatlog never got timestamped |
| 00:38.10 | Industrial | Next thing I want to do to the idActionBar is get rid ob the button background - so you only have the square actions |
| 00:38.17 | Mikma | Syzx: tried the new alpha? |
| 00:38.26 | Industrial | But that involes research, and I'm lazy |
| 00:38.30 | Industrial | nurfed? whats nurfed.. |
| 00:38.51 | Syzx | is that sarcastic or do you really dont know? |
| 00:38.53 | Mikma | http://forums.nurfed.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13 |
| 00:39.09 | Mikma | there, grab the latest alpha |
| 00:39.12 | Industrial | No, I really dont know |
| 00:39.15 | Mikma | it has timestamps in combatlog |
| 00:39.23 | Mikma | (it's in general mod i think) |
| 00:39.33 | Industrial | Mikma: i had it first, HA! |
| 00:39.55 | Mikma | the site does require registering in order to download the alpha but i can host it for some time |
| 00:40.17 | Syzx | i like the unitframes Mikma |
| 00:40.24 | Syzx | but didnt like th enew settings dialogs :( |
| 00:40.42 | Syzx | i like Industrial's mods because they're all under 1kb -.- |
| 00:40.43 | Mikma | well i myself like mg2 more but the unitframes were nice, gotta admit it |
| 00:40.54 | Syzx | mg2? |
| 00:40.56 | Gngsk | mg2 needs an update! |
| 00:41.04 | Mikma | and nurfed is pretty damn light on memory |
| 00:41.04 | Gngsk | minigroup |
| 00:41.06 | Syzx | i'm still looking for a nice unitframe mod |
| 00:41.14 | Gngsk | I've still yet to try nurfed unit frames |
| 00:41.23 | Mikma | http://wow.jaslaughter.com/ :P |
| 00:41.38 | Gngsk | been using minigroup for well over a year, can't see myself changing now :) |
| 00:41.58 | Mikma | i don't like nurfed unitframes because you'll have to move them by hand when you first load the addon :P |
| 00:42.05 | haste | Mikma: initial memory isn't everything ;) |
| 00:42.06 | Mikma | mg2 has fixed positions for frames |
| 00:42.17 | Mikma | haste: true |
| 00:42.35 | Industrial | so nurfed is a compilation? |
| 00:42.46 | Mikma | yeah, check out the url i pasted |
| 00:42.51 | Industrial | thats why i dont know it ;) |
| 00:42.54 | Industrial | i dont do compilations |
| 00:42.55 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:43.11 | Thrae | Nurfed started as a compliation, but got so popular they split it up for people that just wanted the Action Bars, Unit Frames, etc. |
| 00:43.14 | Mikma | neither do i but i take the best parts of them ;) |
| 00:43.29 | Mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/gm.jpg |
| 00:43.30 | Thrae | I still like WatchDog myself for simple Unit Frames. |
| 00:44.01 | Mikma | the url i pasted happened today ;) i wen't under orgrimmar, deleted my HS and jumped into a pit |
| 00:44.18 | snurre | bad Mikma |
| 00:44.24 | haste | I jumped into the pit once also... |
| 00:44.35 | haste | summon ftw ;D |
| 00:44.36 | snurre | can get warning/suspension for that yknow |
| 00:44.44 | Mikma | well i was hoping for atleast 3h ban.. ended up with hilarious gm :P |
| 00:44.45 | Gngsk | or just have someone queue you up for a BG |
| 00:44.57 | Industrial | haha Mikma |
| 00:44.58 | snurre | too little to do over there i guess |
| 00:44.58 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:45.06 | Industrial | gms alk like those |
| 00:45.08 | Industrial | scary |
| 00:45.15 | Industrial | brainwhashed people |
| 00:45.22 | Industrial | lik ooooo im all nice |
| 00:45.29 | Syzx | i think it's an addon ;-) |
| 00:45.40 | Industrial | but when you turn around you have a big axe in your skull |
| 00:45.45 | Mikma | and the reason i gave for gm was something like "i was trying out my new mountainclimbing-set and i accidentially fell under orgrimmar. now i'm stuck in a pit and can't get out because i forgot my HS in ironforge" |
| 00:45.59 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 00:46.06 | snurre | use the auto-stuck, it should HS you back |
| 00:46.13 | snurre | unless it bugs as usual ofc |
| 00:46.16 | Mikma | snurre: nope, if you delete your HS ;) |
| 00:46.17 | haste | snurre: go push your "fix problem" button |
| 00:46.44 | Industrial | Mikma: what server again? |
| 00:46.54 | Mikma | the bastard noticed i had pvp on and teleported me behind the rocks infront of orgrimmar :P |
| 00:46.59 | Mikma | Industrial: nordrassil |
| 00:47.02 | Industrial | right |
| 00:47.02 | Industrial | :p |
| 00:47.12 | snurre | tickets like that delay service for players that are too dumb to figure out their own shit, so you may get suspension etc for doing that. not advisable if you like your account open :p |
| 00:47.28 | snurre | eu or us, Mikma? |
| 00:47.32 | Industrial | eu |
| 00:47.41 | Industrial | Mikma: hmm you are alli right? =( |
| 00:47.41 | Mikma | snurre: i have something like 10 days to go on my payment... so i don't care really ;) |
| 00:47.52 | snurre | argh, you're one of those... |
| 00:47.58 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/bg/WoWScrnShot_052606_204104.jpg |
| 00:48.02 | Industrial | nordrassil |
| 00:48.03 | Industrial | :< |
| 00:48.14 | Mikma | Industrial: yeah i am, i laughed for that gm so hard i wen't and owned the raptorverdor ;) |
| 00:48.25 | haste | not the raptorvendor?! |
| 00:48.35 | haste | I like him.... :----/ |
| 00:48.41 | Mikma | hehe xD |
| 00:49.06 | Mikma | well after that i got attacked by lvl60 rogue and lvl60 druid. was sooo exciting. i just had to kill them both :P |
| 00:49.22 | haste | warlock? |
| 00:49.29 | Mikma | shadowpriest |
| 00:49.32 | haste | almost! |
| 00:49.47 | Industrial | Mikma: that screenshot is my twink rogue on nordrassil |
| 00:50.09 | Mikma | okiedokie, you're on a wrong side hehe :P |
| 00:50.16 | Industrial | no you are :\ |
| 00:50.17 | Industrial | :P |
| 00:50.27 | Industrial | I still have a lv 20 NE priest there... |
| 00:50.29 | Mikma | not for long when 1.11 lands :D |
| 00:50.33 | Industrial | why |
| 00:50.38 | haste | You know what happened when I played NE on closed US ? |
| 00:50.58 | Industrial | Mikma: ? |
| 00:50.59 | haste | I played to L6, logged out and deleted WoW |
| 00:51.00 | Industrial | haste: no? |
| 00:51.08 | Industrial | hahaha |
| 00:51.10 | Industrial | ahah |
| 00:51.13 | Industrial | :') |
| 00:51.19 | Mikma | Industrial: there's nothing left for me on that server when 1.11 goes live |
| 00:51.26 | haste | I didn't touch it again before certain people gave me a 10 day pass :p |
| 00:51.28 | haste | damn them! |
| 00:51.32 | Industrial | Mikma: explain |
| 00:51.42 | haste | I could have continued with BF1942 :p |
| 00:51.46 | Mikma | Industrial: i have no friends there |
| 00:51.50 | snurre | still like 10 days left for 1.11 :( |
| 00:51.53 | snurre | i want now! |
| 00:51.58 | Industrial | whats the patch got to do with it |
| 00:52.02 | Industrial | Mikma: me neither :| |
| 00:52.24 | Industrial | Mikma: start a new char, lets level&play together |
| 00:52.32 | Mikma | Industrial: afaik it will provide us a feature to move our characters to other servers |
| 00:52.35 | Tekkub | erf... okey I think I'm gonna have to bug the landlady a bit... |
| 00:52.37 | Industrial | im bored of soloing |
| 00:53.09 | Tekkub | The pool guy told me I had chlorine crap and all the stuff to do with that, but I read all the labels and it ain't chlorine.. it's bromine... |
| 00:53.30 | Tekkub | *whine* stupid hicks don't know that mixing pool chemicals is bad! |
| 00:53.56 | snurre | 1.11 itself won't bring char transfers btw, that will most likely arrive a few weeks later |
| 00:54.07 | snurre | june/july i guess |
| 00:54.11 | Tekkub | and I ain't stupid, I'm not fucking with that stuff till I'm sure it's the same stuff they used before... |
| 00:54.48 | haste | snurre: You know.. I also want it now |
| 00:54.59 | haste | since they actually managed to make a GOOD PvE set for shamans |
| 00:55.06 | haste | which doesn't suck dust like Ten Storms |
| 00:55.19 | snurre | screw shamans, theyre finally making my rank13 pieces worth using |
| 00:55.28 | haste | meep? |
| 00:55.28 | Tekkub | I like Ten Storms! (he says not having the foggiest clue what the stats on it is) |
| 00:55.49 | haste | (ten storms is like... less stats then earthfury) |
| 00:55.54 | Tekkub | it looks cool, it must be good |
| 00:56.06 | haste | It was kind of good |
| 00:56.15 | haste | before they nerfed the crap out of it, and made it PvP |
| 00:56.28 | Industrial | pvp ftw |
| 00:56.56 | haste | ~stab Industrial |
| 00:57.01 | purl | ACTION runs at Industrial with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 00:59.00 | netcurse | What you guys think about a profile page like this that show your addons, your fav etc ? http://beta1.curse-gaming.com/en/profile-3.html |
| 00:59.41 | haste | version and last updated would be nice :o |
| 00:59.56 | netcurse | ya this is just to show the idea:= |
| 01:01.04 | netcurse | what s your name on c urse HAste |
| 01:01.07 | netcurse | haste ? :p |
| 01:01.09 | haste | yeh |
| 01:01.12 | haste | I think so at least |
| 01:01.17 | haste | *checks* |
| 01:01.22 | haste | yeah, it is :p |
| 01:02.26 | netcurse | http://beta1.curse-gaming.com/en/profile-3566.html |
| 01:02.40 | netcurse | hm wait they broke beta site :p |
| 01:02.49 | Mikma | boo |
| 01:03.17 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r2148 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - Fix possible bug |
| 01:03.39 | netcurse | dooh |
| 01:03.46 | netcurse | you have 0 fav! |
| 01:03.57 | ckknight | ? |
| 01:04.03 | Mikma | har har |
| 01:04.28 | haste | yes, I do :< |
| 01:04.37 | haste | I abuse RSS instead |
| 01:05.08 | Tain | Yeah RSS is your friend |
| 01:05.10 | Mikma | oh goodie, my email has been suspended on curse :D |
| 01:05.31 | netcurse | http://beta1.curse-gaming.com/en/profile-86698.html |
| 01:05.37 | netcurse | ckk :p |
| 01:05.48 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 01:06.01 | netcurse | Having your own addon in fav! |
| 01:06.06 | ckknight | hehe |
| 01:06.28 | Mikma | that's the style |
| 01:06.32 | ckknight | I still want my backend uploading deal. |
| 01:06.52 | netcurse | you know who to talk with :) |
| 01:07.10 | ckknight | yea, yea |
| 01:07.15 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:07.41 | Mikma | let's act stupid/Mikma: to whom? ;) |
| 01:08.26 | Mikma | one question. does anyone else have an interesting 1s or longer pauses when using decursive 1.9.4 -> |
| 01:09.23 | Mikma | seems like the continued version may have fixed that issue |
| 01:09.57 | ckknight | netcurse, what's the address for the wdb -> csv convertor? |
| 01:10.09 | ckknight | I'm rewriting it in Python |
| 01:10.11 | ckknight | almost done |
| 01:10.14 | ckknight | just want to check myself |
| 01:11.24 | netcurse | http://beta1.curse-gaming.com/database/csv.html ? |
| 01:11.38 | ckknight | alright |
| 01:13.03 | Mikma | The file you asked for was not found in our database. |
| 01:13.27 | Mikma | whee! go decursive continued |
| 01:13.55 | haste | decursive is shit! |
| 01:14.03 | haste | just makes the simple game simpler :( |
| 01:14.11 | Mikma | i know, i am the shit |
| 01:14.48 | Mikma | your an warlock right? |
| 01:14.55 | haste | I have an warlock alt ;D |
| 01:15.05 | haste | s/an/a/ |
| 01:15.37 | ckknight | bah, netcurse, didn't work right |
| 01:15.42 | Mikma | usually pvp-warlocks hate decursive since it makes warlocks useless or so |
| 01:15.55 | haste | Mikma: not the reason I hate it |
| 01:15.59 | haste | and I'm a PvE-er |
| 01:17.18 | Mikma | well, decursive wouldn't be needed if blizzards idea of making bosses hard wouldn't be masscurse all |
| 01:17.45 | Mikma | and how in the hell does the svnX work! ghehe |
| 01:18.57 | Tain | Yeah WoW bosses should just be like EverQuest and flat out kill someone every sixty seconds. |
| 01:20.06 | gnorlish | any shamans use call of elements addon |
| 01:21.00 | haste | well.. mass decursing sin't hard to decurse yourself |
| 01:21.30 | Industrial | Is there any set weapon for paladin? |
| 01:21.44 | haste | they get one a L20 |
| 01:21.53 | haste | (or L30) from their class quest |
| 01:22.00 | Tain | I was talking to someone just the other day who never got their level 20 Paladin hammer. |
| 01:22.04 | Tain | Blasphemy! |
| 01:22.05 | haste | a mace from SFK (in the stable) |
| 01:22.29 | Tain | It's such an awesome weapon, better than anything else you can get at level 20 and makes you a monster for five or six levels. |
| 01:22.41 | Industrial | no no i mean |
| 01:22.57 | Industrial | does it matter if i use 2he or 2hb weapons? |
| 01:23.11 | haste | 2he, 2hb? |
| 01:23.17 | Industrial | edged/blunt |
| 01:23.22 | haste | no |
| 01:23.26 | haste | or it does on some mobs |
| 01:23.32 | Industrial | k |
| 01:23.35 | haste | but it isn't many |
| 01:23.49 | haste | there basicly isn't a X is better then Y |
| 01:23.53 | Tain | I like polearms anyway. :) |
| 01:24.07 | haste | I have a thing for axes :o |
| 01:24.13 | gnorlish | NICE, newest timex beta suddenly works with totem timers in call of elements |
| 01:24.29 | haste | gnorlish: maybe 'cause it has IMPROVED choronos support? |
| 01:24.33 | haste | chronos* |
| 01:24.40 | gnorlish | i saw it said that |
| 01:24.49 | gnorlish | but of course that didn't mean it had to solve the issue |
| 01:24.55 | haste | ;D |
| 01:26.17 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r2149 10FuBar_SpacingFu/: Removed SpacingFu |
| 01:26.21 | haste | http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=1017954&p=1&tmp=1#post1017954 << gogo blizzard! |
| 01:26.30 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r2150 10FuBar_TransparencyFu/: Removed TransparencyFu |
| 01:26.44 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r2151 10FuBar_FontSizeFu/: Removed FontSizeFu |
| 01:27.20 | haste | nice way to get -15k rep :p |
| 01:27.30 | Mikma | ya, gotta remember that |
| 01:27.35 | gnorlish | haste3k.net <- pro UI |
| 01:28.44 | haste | it's a guildy ;) |
| 01:28.59 | haste | but I could never be arsed to read the thread before now |
| 01:29.24 | haste | I mostly relate the WoW-EU forums with spam, nrerf threads and general whine |
| 01:29.44 | Mikma | i'm jumping that thread in hope of blue ;) |
| 01:31.24 | gnorlish | haste which of your addons are you most interested in / actively working on the most |
| 01:31.34 | haste | they are all working ;D |
| 01:31.43 | Mikma | orly owl? |
| 01:31.57 | haste | but the most interesting has to be oRA, or the next version of oUF |
| 01:32.12 | gnorlish | i love ora |
| 01:32.31 | gnorlish | anything in particular you're adding to the next version of it |
| 01:32.32 | gnorlish | ? |
| 01:32.40 | haste | define next version |
| 01:32.52 | haste | next as in after SVN, or after 1.0.12 ? |
| 01:33.03 | gnorlish | next big update that includes both backend and frontend changes |
| 01:33.20 | haste | I have two (I belive) things left to fix |
| 01:33.26 | gnorlish | i just want to be able to tell guildies what they can expect in the semi-near future |
| 01:34.06 | haste | well, the SVN version is pretty much the new version |
| 01:34.18 | haste | more pretty GUI |
| 01:34.28 | haste | and more raid leader love |
| 01:34.35 | gnorlish | excellent |
| 01:34.38 | haste | and improved performance |
| 01:35.04 | haste | I have had a lot on my hands lately also tho' |
| 01:35.16 | haste | this week is the second last big exam week luckily |
| 01:35.23 | haste | only three exams ;< |
| 01:36.44 | gnorlish | i'd be using your unitframes as well but i have been using perl classic forever |
| 01:37.04 | haste | use what you like imo ;) |
| 01:37.10 | Mikma | haste: screenshots anywhere near from your unitframes? |
| 01:37.18 | gnorlish | although i may try them out again now that i have satrina's buff addon |
| 01:37.42 | haste | Mikma: http://www.fuxsake.net/filer/oUF_GUI.mpeg http://www.fuxsake.net/filer/oUF_GonffBar.mpeg http://www.fuxsake.net/filer/oUF_Scaling.mpeg |
| 01:37.46 | haste | some movies |
| 01:37.55 | Mikma | goodie, leech -> |
| 01:38.06 | Mikma | btw nice url ;) |
| 01:38.10 | haste | ^^ |
| 01:38.10 | Tain | I like Satrina's buff addon, but I have a problem with not showing temporary weapon buffs sometimes. |
| 01:38.21 | haste | I'm having a buffmod addon on my planned list |
| 01:38.23 | Tain | I don't konw if it's the addon or the game though. |
| 01:38.24 | gnorlish | any particular buffs? |
| 01:38.31 | Tain | Poisons |
| 01:38.35 | haste | but I kind of lost motivation... when I saw the modified gypsy one |
| 01:38.39 | cladhaire | Tain: So tell him |
| 01:38.40 | cladhaire | or have me tell him |
| 01:38.46 | Tain | I always forget. |
| 01:38.50 | gnorlish | eh, i wouldn't know anything about those, i can't stand rogues |
| 01:38.57 | haste | since it was basicly the same idea, only difference was that it had a statusbar also :p |
| 01:39.18 | Tain | It's mainly when my mainhand poison expires/runs out but the offhand is still valid, it doesn't show any. |
| 01:39.20 | gnorlish | maybe there won't be any issues after 1.11 |
| 01:39.31 | gnorlish | they seem to be modifying the temp buff code |
| 01:39.47 | Tain | Yeah so things won't wipe out going into instances. |
| 01:39.52 | Mikma | haste: do you have fixed positions for the unitframes? |
| 01:40.05 | haste | what do you mean by that ;) ? |
| 01:40.32 | Mikma | well try nurfed_unitframes and you'll see what i mean |
| 01:40.35 | haste | and the movies are from the next version |
| 01:40.40 | Mikma | (the latest alpha) |
| 01:40.47 | haste | I still don't understand what you mean |
| 01:41.18 | Mikma | well when you start wow after installing nurfed_unitframes, all of the frames are ontop of each other in middle of screen |
| 01:41.39 | haste | same with oUF2 for now |
| 01:41.54 | Mikma | but let's look ie. mg2. the frames have been positioned nicely on upperleft of screen |
| 01:42.25 | haste | meep, I make the positioning if I "care" to say so |
| 01:42.32 | haste | I _hate_ having them up there anyway :p |
| 01:42.40 | gnorlish | is there any way to access ace svn besides through /root |
| 01:42.44 | haste | care as in: many whine about it |
| 01:42.51 | Mikma | well don't make them up there, make some sane positioning for them and use it as default |
| 01:43.09 | haste | people dislike my positioning :< |
| 01:43.31 | haste | http://plixx.org/?5K |
| 01:44.08 | gnorlish | good lord man, that's a lot of open space |
| 01:44.15 | haste | :< |
| 01:44.22 | haste | I like hotkeys to say so |
| 01:44.46 | Mikma | i think they are in good place, because castingbar + skills can be put down there easily |
| 01:45.14 | haste | http://plixx.org/?5L << on the sherman |
| 01:45.48 | Mikma | oh nice! |
| 01:45.58 | Mikma | i like the layout |
| 01:46.42 | haste | I'll see if I can be arsed to add some default layout(s) |
| 01:46.43 | gnorlish | using acetimers for your totems? |
| 01:46.51 | Mikma | any idea on the releasedate of oUF2 |
| 01:46.57 | Mikma | gnorlish: bigwigs |
| 01:47.22 | Mikma | haste: 1 will do, let the people move them like they wan't ;) |
| 01:47.25 | haste | if I get some super motivation.. I could finish it before I went to bed today |
| 01:47.59 | Mikma | looks so sexeeeh i think i will try it as soon as you release it |
| 01:48.00 | haste | Only have buff placement, disabling and enabling / showing and hiding, and toggle of the power bar left |
| 01:48.51 | Mikma | but i must say, the 1 thing i still hate is the gray border on buttons |
| 01:49.16 | haste | http://plixx.org/?5M << default 1.6.X layout |
| 01:49.38 | Industrial | i kinda like this paladin thingy |
| 01:49.40 | Industrial | ;o |
| 01:49.55 | Industrial | that judgement thingy owns :p |
| 01:49.56 | Mikma | haste: too default, my eyes hurt ;) |
| 01:50.00 | haste | ^^ |
| 01:50.08 | haste | It's not my UI *blames it on that* |
| 01:50.18 | haste | from the "Show your UI thread" on our guild forum |
| 01:50.19 | Mikma | haste: the problem with the placement of the ToT frame is default-scale |
| 01:50.49 | Mikma | buffs will go over the frame etc |
| 01:50.55 | Mikma | mg2 has the same problem |
| 01:51.00 | Industrial | haste: nice |
| 01:51.03 | haste | ToT doesn't show any buffs/debuffs |
| 01:51.10 | haste | on 1.6.x that is |
| 01:51.21 | haste | you can toggle it on 2.0.0 when I'm done at least |
| 01:51.33 | Mikma | haste: i mean the default buffs and tot-frame will overlap |
| 01:51.41 | Mikma | with ui-scale disabled |
| 01:51.47 | haste | aah, like that |
| 01:51.54 | gnorlish | oh man, tot buffs/debuffs |
| 01:52.01 | haste | that might be it |
| 01:52.21 | Mikma | gnorlish: mg2 has that feature |
| 01:52.45 | Mikma | wow snvX started to work properly :D |
| 01:52.48 | haste | so did oUF before I removed it |
| 01:53.14 | Mikma | it's not really that useful feature |
| 01:53.23 | gnorlish | i fool around with other UF mods every once in a while |
| 01:54.42 | haste | so did I |
| 01:54.49 | haste | ended up making one in DUF |
| 01:55.00 | haste | then I got sick of it's memory usage and such, so I made my own |
| 01:55.29 | haste | oUF 1.X is basicly a hard-mod of AceBarFrames r2 |
| 01:55.43 | haste | quick and dirty! |
| 01:56.04 | Mikma | ehm, duf... |
| 01:56.20 | Mikma | somehow the only discordmod i have liked was GroupButtons |
| 01:56.42 | haste | the current look on oUF is the one that I used with DUF |
| 01:57.18 | Mikma | have you posted a ss on discordmods.com? |
| 01:57.44 | haste | nope |
| 01:57.57 | Mikma | somehow still it seems so familiar |
| 01:58.20 | haste | MiniGroup was the source of inspiration |
| 01:58.29 | haste | so that might explain it ;) |
| 02:01.16 | snurre | <3 LUF tbh |
| 02:01.32 | haste | and he is also rewriting them from scratch ;D |
| 02:06.40 | Tain | Wow this is funny, a french fry processing plant found a hand grenade in the potatoes. |
| 02:06.54 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 02:07.10 | Tain | That's a spicy french fry! |
| 02:07.34 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) |
| 02:07.42 | haste | damn it |
| 02:07.49 | *** join/#wowace Amadeo_ (i=zenon@c-69-143-220-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 02:08.03 | Amadeo_ | That Tuplad guy is a dick |
| 02:08.11 | haste | done now? |
| 02:08.11 | Tain | haha |
| 02:08.20 | Mikma | hand grenade... cool |
| 02:08.33 | Amadeo_ | Check out his WoWI comment to an addon: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info5010-Reported!.html |
| 02:09.09 | Tekkub | le sigh |
| 02:09.22 | haste | to the Cairenn mobile! |
| 02:09.39 | haste | I think he actually took it quite hard, getting banned from this chan |
| 02:09.41 | haste | and the forums |
| 02:09.51 | Amadeo_ | he was banned? good |
| 02:10.02 | Mikma | hehe |
| 02:10.10 | Mikma | someone even worse than me |
| 02:10.27 | Mikma | gotta go and hide some more hand grenades in the fields |
| 02:11.22 | Cairenn | don't give me reason to need to yell at any of you, I'll deal with it in a sec |
| 02:11.36 | Tekkub | he got banned? howso? |
| 02:11.45 | Tekkub | Cair: read my reply |
| 02:11.51 | Tekkub | I almost did ^^ |
| 02:12.16 | Amadeo_ | not so straight, huh? :) |
| 02:12.20 | Tekkub | all I know is he called something gay here, I told him to GFY and never acknowledged him again... |
| 02:12.49 | Tekkub | Milk... what have you done to be "bad"? |
| 02:13.18 | Mikma | Tekkub: act like the way i do, ask stupid questions and being a dork :D |
| 02:13.33 | Tekkub | m daddy always said there are no stupid questions |
| 02:13.33 | Amadeo_ | Tekkub: I have to say, yet again, MountMe is the best addon ever for my Warrior :) |
| 02:13.35 | Mikma | oh oh! and quiting wow for 4 weeks |
| 02:13.36 | Tekkub | only stupid people |
| 02:13.50 | Tekkub | it's working for warriors now? |
| 02:13.52 | haste | Why isn't there a: view all comments by this user |
| 02:13.54 | haste | :((( |
| 02:13.57 | Tekkub | good, I couldn't test the fix |
| 02:14.03 | Amadeo_ | Tekkub: I think so! I haven't had any problems |
| 02:14.26 | Amadeo_ | Now I have to somehow figure out why I get a 300ms ping to Akama |
| 02:14.28 | Tekkub | and milk, nah we don't mind question-ful people that much |
| 02:14.30 | Amadeo_ | and 50-100ms on every other server |
| 02:14.33 | Amadeo_ | any ideas? |
| 02:14.40 | Tekkub | it's the retarded and/or demanding ungraful people we don't like |
| 02:15.06 | Tekkub | and ones that fail at life, but then they're easy to report to whatever management is needed *points at cair* |
| 02:15.11 | Mikma | Monty: [using a Forrest Gump voice] Momma said they's my magic shoes. Mama said they would take me anywhere. 'Course Mama used to beat me with a rubber hose and call me a retard. |
| 02:15.30 | Mikma | from a movie Waiting... |
| 02:16.15 | Mikma | this one was cool too: Mitch: So you're the coolest guy at ShenaniganZ, big fucking deal! That's like being the smartest person with Down Syndrome! |
| 02:17.45 | Tekkub | :P I can never bring my self to make jokes about "special" people cause I grew up around oh so many... thank you mine tailings and iron seepage into the drinking water! |
| 02:17.54 | Tekkub | plus they're all oh so happy all the time :P |
| 02:19.26 | Tekkub | so what did he do to merrit a ban anyway? dish out the gossips damnit! |
| 02:19.31 | Cairenn | dealt with |
| 02:19.40 | Tekkub | BELETED! |
| 02:19.54 | kergoth | i can hardly believe how much my old open source projects have taken off |
| 02:20.08 | kergoth | mickey lauer is writing a book on developing for embedded systems with bitbake and openembedded |
| 02:20.10 | Tekkub | aw come on cair, there weren't any claws in that! |
| 02:20.14 | Cairenn | Tekkub: he just continued to be a complete ass |
| 02:20.18 | Tain | Nice kergoth! |
| 02:20.21 | haste | Tekkub: that episode is nice ;D |
| 02:20.22 | Cairenn | no, there weren't |
| 02:20.27 | Tekkub | you gotta bear some teeth and show these bitches who's the alpha round here |
| 02:20.40 | Cairenn | everyone gets a warning |
| 02:20.53 | Cairenn | then I'm a bitch |
| 02:20.53 | kergoth | OE can now build roughly 3,330 packages, which emits over 11,000 binary packages for use on the device |
| 02:20.54 | Tekkub | yea, teeth == warning :) |
| 02:20.55 | kergoth | craziness |
| 02:21.05 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:25.14 | Amadeo_ | gf aggro :/ |
| 02:27.13 | ckknight | who wrote Gonffbar? |
| 02:27.55 | haste | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5662098928894696234 << shamans are balanced |
| 02:27.59 | haste | ckknight: wobin did |
| 02:28.24 | ckknight | alright |
| 02:28.28 | ckknight | I want to hack on it |
| 02:28.52 | haste | to do what :o ? |
| 02:29.13 | Tain | He got the original idea from something else though. |
| 02:29.42 | Tain | (Not that it matters.) |
| 02:29.48 | haste | energytick or what it's named? |
| 02:30.10 | Mikma | 25515.... nerf |
| 02:30.18 | Tain | Actually I probably shouldn't even say since I'm going off of conversations in here that I only half-pay attention to anyway. |
| 02:30.31 | haste | not like it matters :p |
| 02:31.38 | ckknight | I'll add a few things to it |
| 02:31.46 | ckknight | make it better when vertical |
| 02:31.50 | ckknight | add a dropdown menu |
| 02:32.01 | ckknight | optional one |
| 02:32.16 | haste | <3 dewdrop ^^ |
| 02:32.21 | Mikma | what's tha skull on his screen in that video? |
| 02:32.31 | haste | Mikma: raid target in 1.11 |
| 02:32.31 | ckknight | hehe, yep |
| 02:33.10 | haste | I'm going to bed for a couple of hours now |
| 02:33.15 | haste | currently 04:30 CEST here |
| 02:34.37 | Mikma | good, then you can start coding on oUF2 ;) |
| 02:35.51 | Tekkub | I have this sudden urge to write iterators for party scanning :) |
| 02:36.11 | ckknight | btw, haste, good work on oUF |
| 02:36.30 | Tekkub | instead of redoing the raid/party/blah blah blah stuff just an iter that sends back all valid unitids for the raid or party |
| 02:38.48 | ckknight | so it'd return party1-GetNumPartyMembers() ? |
| 02:39.07 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't work that way |
| 02:39.14 | hyperChipmunk | raid numbering is in no way logical |
| 02:39.35 | hyperChipmunk | and changes everytime the raid does |
| 02:39.40 | Tekkub | it'd return, like say in a raid, "raid1", "raid2", "raid3" etc |
| 02:39.49 | Tekkub | have options to include pets and the player |
| 02:40.07 | ckknight | sounds like a good idea, Tekkub |
| 02:40.08 | Tekkub | if you're in a party it'd return "player", "party1", "party2" |
| 02:40.23 | Tekkub | and you could override to get party vals if in a raid |
| 02:40.48 | kergoth | hehe, theres a post on the planet for this embedded stuff... someone discovered lua and added the lua gtk bindings to OE so they can do gtk apps on their pda with lua |
| 02:41.07 | Tekkub | too many TLA's! |
| 02:41.22 | ckknight | TLA's? |
| 02:41.22 | kergoth | tla? |
| 02:41.51 | Tekkub | Three Letter Acronyms! |
| 02:42.01 | Tain | ~wtf tla |
| 02:42.02 | ckknight | I understood em all except TLA |
| 02:42.24 | Tekkub | see purl's not dumb! |
| 02:42.28 | Tekkub | ~Dr. Tran |
| 02:42.35 | purl | Cowboy hat! |
| 02:42.43 | ckknight | ~emulate cookie monster |
| 02:42.44 | purl | Me want cookie! |
| 02:42.46 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:43.00 | ckknight | oh, cookie monster, what won't you say? |
| 02:43.38 | Tekkub | ~Horse Buttholes |
| 02:43.39 | purl | "from a cup!" |
| 02:43.47 | Tekkub | oops... stupid quotes |
| 02:43.58 | kergoth | http://planet.linuxtogo.org/ |
| 02:44.01 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 02:44.02 | purl | It'll be a good chance to get away from the evil monkey that lives in my closet." |
| 02:45.35 | Tekkub | ~hot dickings |
| 02:45.36 | purl | JUST GIVING EM OUT! |
| 02:45.43 | Tekkub | muahahahaha! |
| 02:46.48 | Tekkub | ~Rule with an iron fist |
| 02:46.49 | purl | Obey the fist! |
| 02:47.20 | Tekkub | okey, enough purl abuse for me for one night |
| 02:47.30 | Tekkub | ~hot dickings |
| 02:47.31 | purl | JUST GIVING EM OUT! |
| 02:47.35 | Tekkub | *giggle* |
| 02:50.58 | Mikma | ok, gn, it's 5:50am and i'm taking a short 12h nap |
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| 02:54.32 | Amadeo- | argh |
| 02:54.39 | Amadeo- | error popping up in BattlegroundFu every second almost |
| 02:55.18 | Amadeo- | GloryLib.lua:800: attempt to perform arithmatic on field `?' (a nil value) |
| 02:55.51 | Amadeo- | hm |
| 02:55.54 | Amadeo- | QuestFu is broken too |
| 02:55.58 | Amadeo- | ckknight! |
| 03:02.32 | Amadeo- | you know what |
| 03:02.34 | Amadeo- | it might have been Timex |
| 03:02.37 | Amadeo- | let me see |
| 03:05.14 | ckknight | Amadeo-, hey. |
| 03:05.22 | Amadeo- | I was going to blame you |
| 03:05.24 | Amadeo- | but I'm not so sure now |
| 03:05.25 | Amadeo- | :( |
| 03:05.36 | ckknight | feel free to blame hyperChipmunk |
| 03:05.40 | Industrial | oh noes |
| 03:05.42 | Industrial | the bords |
| 03:05.48 | Industrial | and the birds |
| 03:05.55 | Industrial | nn |
| 03:05.56 | Amadeo- | hehe |
| 03:06.07 | Amadeo- | Industrial: Did you fix those buttons? :D |
| 03:06.21 | Industrial | yessir |
| 03:06.41 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/idChatButtons-11000-2.7z |
| 03:06.48 | Industrial | *sleep* |
| 03:07.03 | ckknight | Amadeo-, you're not using the most recent GloryLib |
| 03:07.21 | ckknight | unless I'm out of date |
| 03:07.27 | Amadeo- | thanks Industrial :) |
| 03:07.31 | ckknight | nvm, I am |
| 03:07.38 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:07.41 | ckknight | that's _all_ hyperChipmunk |
| 03:07.53 | Amadeo- | but Timex was also updated recently, so I threw that in |
| 03:07.59 | Amadeo- | then he fixed a bug |
| 03:08.06 | Amadeo- | an QuestFu is working again..so... |
| 03:08.07 | Amadeo- | :) |
| 03:14.03 | CIA-17 | 03hshh * r2152 10AceBidHelper/ (8 files): imported, version 0.2 |
| 03:14.33 | CIA-17 | 03hshh * r2153 10AcePlayerMenu/ (5 files): imported, version 0.2 |
| 03:24.38 | Tekkub | *sigh* |
| 03:25.02 | Tekkub | Clad, are you not directing people at the forum post about commits?... eh guess it doesn't matter right now anyway |
| 03:25.15 | Tekkub | damn you web svn! |
| 03:26.53 | ckknight | who is hshh? |
| 03:33.11 | Amadeo- | hyperChipmunk! |
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| 03:35.15 | Amadeo- | stil got that gratuitylib error too :( |
| 03:35.22 | Amadeo- | whenever I leave a BG |
| 03:37.07 | Cairenn | Thrae: you here? |
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| 04:01.37 | ckknight | haste, I know you want to make a breath bar that looks like your casting bar ;-) |
| 04:01.51 | Amadeo- | shush, he's too busy with oUF! |
| 04:01.54 | Amadeo- | :) |
| 04:23.39 | Amadeo- | Who does one contact about server lag? |
| 04:23.46 | Amadeo- | If I post anywhere on the forums, they delete it |
| 04:23.59 | Amadeo- | Including Technical Support |
| 04:33.38 | Amadeo- | I submitted a ticket |
| 04:33.47 | Amadeo- | they sent me an email saying it's probably my addons |
| 04:33.48 | Amadeo- | rofl |
| 04:33.57 | Amadeo- | My addons are fine on all servers but Akama, eh? |
| 04:37.00 | kergoth | hahah |
| 04:37.22 | Amadeo- | So, not sure what to do |
| 04:37.26 | Amadeo- | I hate my dialup ping on Akama |
| 04:37.36 | Amadeo- | 50ms on other servers with 100ms max |
| 04:37.41 | Amadeo- | 300 on Akama :/ |
| 04:59.57 | kergoth | pagefault, added AH_MailCollect. automatically loots cash from outbid or successful auctions, and right clicking on a won or returned item from an auction loots that. seems to work well. (needed it, since switching from CT_MailMod to BulkMail (which doesnt do looting)) |
| 05:01.04 | Tain | I'd suggest not turning auto loot of items on, it doesn't always work. But looting when you open a mail that has an item works fine. |
| 05:05.45 | hyperChipmunk | who's blaming hC for what |
| 05:05.48 | hyperChipmunk | it's all your fault |
| 05:10.40 | kergoth | yeah i dont like auto loot of items anyway |
| 05:10.45 | kergoth | hafl the time i dont have room in my inventory |
| 05:17.58 | Amadeo- | hyperChipmunk: GloryLib.lua:800: attempt to perform arithmatic on field `?' (a nil value) |
| 05:18.01 | Amadeo- | in BGFu :( |
| 05:18.03 | Amadeo- | latest |
| 05:29.50 | kergoth | arg, wow keeps crashing under cedega and i have no idea why |
| 05:41.36 | CIA-17 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r2154 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua: |
| 05:41.36 | CIA-17 | GloryLib: |
| 05:41.36 | CIA-17 | - Blind fix for the line 800 error; let me know if it works >8) |
| 05:41.57 | Tekkub | kerg: I have a tiny addon I should share |
| 05:42.09 | Tekkub | makes shift-click loot the maitbox item you clicked |
| 05:42.33 | Tekkub | I called it ExpressMail :) |
| 05:42.50 | kergoth | good name |
| 05:43.02 | Thrae | Onebag + MrPlow is good enough for me. |
| 05:43.28 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: ! |
| 05:43.42 | Thrae | Tekkub: I'd like that, I do a lot of AH. |
| 05:44.30 | Tekkub | okey, I'll take out the experimental crap and get it to just shift-click and SVN it up |
| 05:44.49 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub treading on my turf |
| 05:45.08 | Tekkub | I wrote that before you even started BM |
| 05:45.23 | hyperChipmunk | wuteva |
| 05:45.27 | Tekkub | because I didn't like CTMM's looting shit, it broke on me too many times |
| 05:45.48 | Tekkub | and I always felt the inbox and outbox should be totally seperate mods |
| 05:47.23 | hyperChipmunk | Amadeo-: check out that BatFu, will ya? |
| 05:51.01 | Kaelten | ok its official django is cool. |
| 05:51.29 | hyperChipmunk | link? |
| 05:52.11 | Kaelten | www.djangoproject.com |
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| 06:22.19 | ckknight | did Industrial ever make his action bar deal? |
| 06:22.33 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 06:22.45 | MoonWolf | but its nothing more then 3 bars bottom center |
| 06:22.47 | MoonWolf | nothing else. |
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| 06:37.49 | Gngsk | who will make aceflexbar? that's what I wanna know! |
| 06:39.23 | Gngsk | :\ |
| 06:39.44 | Gngsk | Tain is lazy! |
| 06:40.11 | Thiana | O.o Sounds like you're the lazy one :) |
| 06:40.18 | Gngsk | :P |
| 06:40.35 | Gngsk | I'm just repeating what he's stated ten times over and probably more. |
| 06:41.54 | Thiana | Any good programmer is lazy. That doesnt mean you're not being lazy. Visor gives you everything you need to replace FlexBar :) |
| 06:42.16 | MoonWolf | it yust requires some more work then flexbar |
| 06:45.53 | Gngsk | yea |
| 06:46.00 | Gngsk | like writing lua for all events and such |
| 06:48.20 | hyperChipmunk | programming is laziness applied |
| 06:48.29 | Gngsk | indeed |
| 06:49.30 | MoonWolf | programming is working now so you can be lazy later. |
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| 06:55.35 | ckknight | ~laziness |
| 06:55.43 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 07:21.24 | kergoth | <K_wifler_mobile> I'd like to do martial arts AND programming 24/7 |
| 07:21.24 | kergoth | <larsivi|idc_pl> martial arts programming? |
| 07:21.30 | kergoth | <Skrylar> Eclipse Kick :D |
| 07:21.30 | kergoth | <Skrylar> Roundhouse Segfault |
| 07:24.58 | ckknight | does anyone have a good, _working_ version of an auto-attack deal? |
| 07:25.05 | ckknight | I'm contemplating hacking one up myself |
| 07:25.09 | ckknight | Retaliate is too bugged for me |
| 07:28.55 | kergoth | i went back to defendyoruself for a while after being annoyed as hell with retaliate's nonexistant handling of hunter's autoshoot |
| 07:28.59 | kergoth | was driving me bonkers |
| 07:29.07 | kergoth | then went over to idautoattack. it seems a bit better |
| 07:31.55 | ckknight | where can I get that? |
| 07:33.01 | kergoth | hm, id's site i'm sure, but i dont recall the url |
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| 07:41.14 | ckknight | found the site |
| 07:41.20 | ckknight | doesn't have that addon, though |
| 07:43.45 | kergoth | hmm |
| 08:00.33 | ckknight | does anyone know if there's a list of servers with their time zones? |
| 08:12.05 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 08:12.08 | purl | It's partially an expression of my teenage angst...but mostly, it's a moo cow! |
| 08:12.12 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:12.37 | MoonWolf | ~emulate tim |
| 08:12.52 | MoonWolf | ~emulate riker |
| 08:13.12 | MoonWolf | ~emulate purl |
| 08:13.13 | purl | ACTION tries to look like itself |
| 08:14.43 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:16.09 | kergoth | ~emulate dib |
| 08:16.10 | purl | See Gaz, to defeat my enemy I must study my enemy, then become my enemy, then move in with my enemy, then wear my enemies clothes, then... |
| 08:16.19 | kergoth | nono, not that one |
| 08:16.21 | kergoth | ~emulate dib |
| 08:16.22 | purl | I'm delicious! No one should be this delicious! |
| 08:16.43 | Gngsk | Delicious Cave Mold! |
| 08:16.48 | MoonWolf | lol |
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| 09:33.07 | Malkuth | morning *watches people dive for cover |
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| 10:12.32 | ckknight | has there been any significant progress on Ace2? |
| 10:13.06 | Thiana | As much as there has been on Windows Vista ;) |
| 10:15.02 | ckknight | 40% needs to be recoded? |
| 10:19.12 | Malkuth | or its coming out on time, but will make you buy a new machine to get the same functionality as the old ace, but it will say BLING to show you how cool it is ? |
| 10:20.41 | ckknight | gah, I need a roadmap. |
| 10:21.44 | ckknight | or something... |
| 10:21.45 | Malkuth | what could cause a disconnect when trying to send a raid chat with an item link in it, of an item I have ? |
| 10:22.04 | CIA-17 | 03shyva * r2155 10BigWigs/AQ20/Ossirian.lua: BigWigs: Ossirians timers now stop when you defeat him. |
| 10:24.04 | Malkuth | eek everytime too |
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| 10:38.35 | Malkuth | if im using compostlib and ive use AcquireHash I can dump the data and it works fine, however if I later do RecycleHash it returns nil any ideas ? |
| 10:57.23 | ckknight | pastebin |
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| 11:34.23 | Malkuth | can someone look at this and see if possible why I get a disconnect (comments in it) |
| 11:34.24 | Malkuth | http://ace.pastebin.com/742620 |
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| 11:51.03 | Malkuth | wb ckknight |
| 12:00.19 | Codayus | Hmmm, anyone looked at getting acegui to work on the ptr ket? |
| 12:00.22 | Codayus | yet, even |
| 12:03.32 | Malkuth | is their an event thats called when you do a console reloadui/reboot ? |
| 12:03.46 | Malkuth | ignore that question, im being brain dead |
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| 12:49.23 | Industrial | mornin |
| 12:49.36 | Industrial | wah lol 14:49 |
| 12:50.05 | haste | You sleep so much more then me :< |
| 12:50.12 | Industrial | :P |
| 12:50.28 | Industrial | haste: my pala is lv 8 |
| 12:50.52 | haste | I usually do 3-5h when I don't have school the next day, and 6-8 if I have school the next day |
| 12:51.06 | Industrial | me2 6 |
| 12:51.15 | Industrial | because i get up at 6 :< |
| 12:51.24 | haste | ;D |
| 12:51.38 | Industrial | haste: so go and make your char you bishie |
| 12:51.48 | haste | I don't wanna :( |
| 12:51.51 | Industrial | rwar! |
| 12:52.04 | Industrial | y not |
| 12:53.39 | Industrial | *wow* |
| 12:56.05 | Neronix | Industrial: For the love of god, don't roll a pally unless you want to pretend to be a priest |
| 12:56.53 | haste | don't think indu is a PvE-er |
| 12:57.00 | haste | even tho' everyone ends up being one :) |
| 13:03.29 | Neronix | Ok, then he'll end up pretending to be a melee priest :P |
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| 13:16.13 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 13:16.26 | Codayus | Something is creating an extra tooltip for me on the PTR. Hmph |
| 13:17.17 | Tain | What the hell this is just wrong. Coke and Warcraft advertising together? |
| 13:17.20 | Tain | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOSrapbPrzU |
| 13:17.40 | MoonWolf | i remember that one |
| 13:17.42 | MoonWolf | it owns! |
| 13:18.14 | Codayus | oO |
| 13:18.20 | Codayus | Weirdest...ad...ever... |
| 13:18.21 | Malkuth | someone mind looking at http://ace.pastebin.com/742620 and seeing where ive gone wrong |
| 13:19.54 | Neronix | Oh god... |
| 13:20.02 | Malkuth | weirdest add i ever saw looked like a tampax add (ie runing on beach etc) then here a ripping noise, and a voice says "yep and they way they out of your hair so you can drink <insert acholocic beverage> and foorball |
| 13:22.15 | Tain | Malkuth: What's the difference between when you get disconnected or not? |
| 13:26.37 | Stylpe | Does anyone know when kergoth usually wakes up? |
| 13:27.18 | Stylpe | Or is anyone else in here comfortable with c++ maybe? :D |
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| 13:39.54 | Neronix | Know what? |
| 13:40.04 | Neronix | There needs to be another Golden Sun game |
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| 13:41.54 | MoonWolf | agreed |
| 14:04.24 | Industrial | < Neronix> Industrial: For the love of god, don't roll a pally unless you want to pretend to be a priest |
| 14:04.27 | Industrial | Neronix: I pvp |
| 14:04.34 | Neronix | That's ok then :P |
| 14:05.04 | Industrial | and even then |
| 14:05.10 | Industrial | these judgements thingies are neat |
| 14:06.01 | Neronix | That's because you twinked ;P |
| 14:06.11 | Industrial | So? |
| 14:06.15 | Industrial | I didnt have a main |
| 14:06.19 | Neronix | Notice the ;P |
| 14:06.27 | Industrial | only unfair thing i did was lend 1g ;D |
| 14:10.09 | netcurse | +l |
| 14:34.29 | Kaelten | good morning everyone |
| 14:36.54 | MoonWolf | morning kael. |
| 14:42.13 | Kaelten | how you doing moon? |
| 14:42.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 14:42.24 | MoonWolf | fine |
| 14:42.31 | MoonWolf | i had to ban someone though |
| 14:42.34 | Kaelten | netcurse, yer, right. django is cool |
| 14:42.36 | Kaelten | ? |
| 14:42.38 | Kaelten | what happened? |
| 14:42.49 | MoonWolf | and im now 12500 poitns away from wsg revered. |
| 14:43.00 | netcurse | yo kael |
| 14:43.04 | netcurse | yep it is |
| 14:43.12 | MoonWolf | tupload got to much of a annoying bastard. |
| 14:43.27 | Kaelten | banned him from the site or here? |
| 14:43.32 | MoonWolf | both. |
| 14:43.33 | Kaelten | or both? |
| 14:44.07 | MoonWolf | i changed the agreement when registrating a forum account that misbehavour on either can lead to a ban on both. |
| 14:44.21 | Kaelten | k |
| 14:44.33 | Kaelten | I was just looking that he doesn't seem to have any posts |
| 14:44.48 | MoonWolf | tulad is his account name on the forum. |
| 14:44.52 | Kaelten | anything particular he did? |
| 14:44.53 | MoonWolf | tuplad. |
| 14:45.01 | MoonWolf | general trolling on irc |
| 14:45.22 | MoonWolf | being rude when asking questions and when people try to explain the awnser or how he could have found it himself. |
| 14:46.14 | MoonWolf | proudly proclaiming that he had been banned for trolling on different forums two days before. |
| 14:46.32 | MoonWolf | now he can add us to that list. |
| 14:47.02 | Kaelten | heh |
| 14:47.49 | Kaelten | well I think he's probably our first banned user |
| 14:47.53 | Kaelten | makes me kinda sad |
| 14:48.04 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 14:48.07 | Codayus | Think of it as a right of passage... |
| 14:48.24 | MoonWolf | I dont know if i like being mature then. |
| 14:48.37 | Kaelten | heh |
| 14:49.15 | Kaelten | woot I've made a blank page! |
| 14:49.17 | Kaelten | lol |
| 14:49.21 | Mikma | sadf1r3f! good morning |
| 14:49.31 | Industrial | netcurse: hai :) |
| 14:49.38 | MoonWolf | morning mik |
| 14:49.46 | Industrial | --^ |
| 14:49.50 | Codayus | Oh, yeah - anyone know if there's a version of acegui floating around that works on the PTR yet? |
| 14:50.02 | Kaelten | Codayus, not yet |
| 14:50.28 | Codayus | just curious. :-) |
| 14:50.44 | Kaelten | I need to get on their sometime soon and work on the bugs in this version |
| 14:50.55 | Kaelten | hope its not too ugly |
| 14:51.11 | Industrial | damn, i woke up at 3 today |
| 14:51.17 | Industrial | like 2 hours ago |
| 14:51.23 | Industrial | >_o |
| 14:51.35 | MoonWolf | how long did you stay playing ? |
| 14:51.39 | Industrial | 7 :P |
| 14:52.05 | Industrial | Does the latest timex (svn) work with visor again? |
| 14:52.06 | Mikma | Industrial: i woke up 20min ago ;) 12h nap like i said ;D |
| 14:52.12 | Industrial | Mikma: keke |
| 14:54.25 | Industrial | Wouldnt it be nice if the svn just made a zip of an addon every time a new version is committed, and you'd just download the zip? |
| 14:54.28 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:55.01 | Industrial | hm, timex isnt on the svn |
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| 15:01.23 | Industrial | Anyone know the status of invsort? |
| 15:03.57 | haste | post-poned I would guess |
| 15:04.42 | Industrial | :( |
| 15:13.59 | Industrial | ckknight_: you around? |
| 15:31.44 | MoonWolf | whoooo |
| 15:31.49 | MoonWolf | dark whelpling!!! |
| 15:31.53 | MoonWolf | i found a dark whelpling! |
| 15:32.31 | Neronix | the pet!? |
| 15:32.34 | Neronix | lucky sob |
| 15:32.40 | Neronix | enjoy your 200g |
| 15:36.42 | MoonWolf | yes the pet |
| 15:36.47 | MoonWolf | heh last two only sold for 50 |
| 15:36.57 | MoonWolf | yes, this is the third one i found on this server. |
| 15:37.05 | MoonWolf | the loot generator loves me. |
| 15:38.09 | Codayus | You know, I got a char to 60 without finding a BoE blue? 1-60, and the only blues I ever found were in instances... |
| 15:38.30 | Codayus | (And I didn't even instance much. And no, no epics at all...ever.) |
| 15:39.13 | MoonWolf | even on this char who is only lvl 43, i have found 5 BoE blues, 2 of wich were perfectly timed bows. |
| 15:39.18 | MoonWolf | and now this whelpling. |
| 15:39.28 | MoonWolf | also a ton of recipies. |
| 15:39.43 | Codayus | I didn't find a BoE blue until lvl 40 on my 2nd char. Almost had a heart attack. :-D Since then I've found lots though. <shrug> Just a bad run of luck I guess... |
| 15:40.19 | Codayus | (And later found an epic at lvl 50 on the same char. Of course, it was a Lifestone, so that hardly counts...) |
| 15:40.49 | Codayus | Lifestone is like the booby prize of epics. :-/ |
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| 15:42.47 | Codayus | On an unrelated note... |
| 15:43.16 | Codayus | Every time a warrior posts that a weapon is good because he used it to execute for <insert large number here> a little piece of me dies inside. |
| 15:43.18 | Codayus | That is all. |
| 15:44.15 | MoonWolf | execute is fixed and not weapond dependant ? |
| 15:44.23 | Codayus | That is correct. |
| 15:44.34 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 15:45.46 | Codayus | And if I had a dollar for every "im a l33t tank warior nad i dps and i xecute for 3000 wit tis wea0n its uberz0r!!!" warrior I've run across.... *sigh* |
| 15:46.33 | Codayus | Rogues do the same thing with eviscerate though. |
| 15:46.52 | MoonWolf | these blunt daggers are imba, i can eviscerate for 1500 with them. |
| 15:47.03 | Codayus | "ZOMG I got a Krol and then I eviscerated for WAY more than with my old weapon!" |
| 15:47.24 | Codayus | :-) |
| 15:47.56 | Tekkub | whee! |
| 16:03.26 | MoonWolf | whoo! |
| 16:03.57 | haste | XD |
| 16:06.38 | Kaelten | arg, I hate designing color schemes for websites |
| 16:06.54 | Kaelten | always sends me into indecesion fits |
| 16:07.15 | Mikma | haste: how's oUF2? ;) |
| 16:08.24 | MoonWolf | Kaelten, use hot pink, gold, platina and purple. |
| 16:09.21 | Kaelten | lol |
| 16:09.25 | MoonWolf | then watch as 13 year old girls, flaming gay's and pimps rush to your site like mad. |
| 16:09.34 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 16:09.43 | Tekkub | hey! |
| 16:10.00 | Tekkub | don't give out the recepie for homo-bait, that's copyrighted! |
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| 16:10.35 | Tekkub | hey maia |
| 16:10.59 | maia | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:11.21 | maia | need to find the command for emotes in irc. rtfm. |
| 16:11.46 | haste | meep |
| 16:11.47 | Tekkub | I did some testing, it takes like 2-sec for someone who was within 30yd rage (the one you can detect with GetInteractDistance) to get completely out of log range at normal run speed |
| 16:11.58 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.01 | haste | /me likes to hug tek |
| 16:12.12 | haste | damn, you made it before me! |
| 16:12.17 | Tekkub | anyway, what time do you use in Squishy to guess if in-range? |
| 16:12.51 | maia | after 5sec I start fading the bars, after 10sec I hide them completely |
| 16:13.01 | Tekkub | okey |
| 16:13.24 | Tekkub | how often does the full scan happen? |
| 16:13.26 | netcurse | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/emotes-328-flirt.html |
| 16:13.29 | netcurse | hahah |
| 16:13.30 | maia | Tekkub: but what if someone is standing at a 35yrd range for a few minutes, e.g. at the ragnaros fight? |
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| 16:13.59 | maia | Tekkub: full scan is every second (the 28yrd distance), plus the various combat events plus unit health |
| 16:14.07 | Tekkub | I'm just gonna keep track of the last time they were seen in range, and what the max range they were at at that time |
| 16:14.51 | Tekkub | okey, I'm gonna do the GetInteract scan every .5 sec max, and also do one for the unit on combat event |
| 16:14.52 | maia | hmm, lots of fights require healers to stand at max healing range (40yrds) to the tank. which is why I think only using the 28yrds check isnt enough |
| 16:15.03 | Tekkub | not gonna worry about unit health for now |
| 16:15.27 | maia | Tekkub: did you check if UNIT_HEALTH has the same distance as the various combat events? |
| 16:15.33 | Tekkub | yea, combat log will give me 45 yard range timings |
| 16:15.52 | maia | which is pretty close to the 40yrds most healing spells have as range |
| 16:16.15 | Tekkub | I'm like 99% certain that UNIT_HEALTH doesn't have a range... but might be throttled for raid performance |
| 16:16.50 | Tekkub | yea I know, best ranges I can provide are 5, 10, 30, 45 I think |
| 16:17.04 | Tekkub | and the 45 I can't update as frequently as the others |
| 16:17.23 | maia | what about the following: if unit was in GetInteract distance within the past 2 sec, we can be sure it's in range. if not and unit had combat events in the past 5 sec, show unt as "maybe in range". |
| 16:17.58 | Tekkub | I'm not going to make any "predictions" like that |
| 16:18.17 | Tekkub | I'm just going to provide last time: 2 sec, last range: 30 yd |
| 16:18.29 | Tekkub | let the mod decide it's own estimations |
| 16:19.03 | maia | you mentioned the 45yrds too, how do you check these? combat events? |
| 16:19.34 | Tekkub | yea, combat log stuff will be tagged at 45 yd unless the unit is detected closer when that fires |
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| 16:20.25 | maia | or will it provide something like GetLastSeenAtRange(30) which will return the number of seconds, and the same for GetLastSeenAtRange(45)? |
| 16:20.59 | Tekkub | wasn't planning on it, was just going to save a time and range for each unit |
| 16:21.12 | Tekkub | think I should save a time for each range? |
| 16:21.35 | maia | hmm. maybe its not necessary |
| 16:21.57 | maia | you'll return the closest confirmed range and the time this range was confirmed? |
| 16:22.07 | Tekkub | yea |
| 16:22.32 | Tekkub | GetUnitRange(unitid) would return lasttime, lastrange |
| 16:23.06 | maia | so if someone was within 30yrds 3sec ago, not anymore since, but there was a combat event 1 sec ago, you'd return 1sec/45yrds? |
| 16:23.30 | Tekkub | normal runspeed is 20 ft/sec (6.66 yd/sec) so you can guesstimate how long a moving unit would take to get out of range |
| 16:23.41 | Tekkub | yes, exactly |
| 16:23.59 | maia | what about knockbacks? |
| 16:24.07 | maia | :) |
| 16:24.14 | MoonWolf | You cant account for those. |
| 16:24.18 | Tekkub | I said guesstimate didn't I? :P |
| 16:24.21 | maia | lol |
| 16:24.36 | MoonWolf | they might be a hunter, they might be a druid, they might be a rogue with sprint they might charge out of the range etc etc etc etc. |
| 16:24.49 | Tekkub | yea |
| 16:24.56 | maia | true |
| 16:25.27 | Tekkub | but you can say that you saw them within 30 yards 2.25 sec ago, then they COULD be at 45yd now |
| 16:25.51 | MoonWolf | correct. |
| 16:26.01 | Tekkub | you would know if they got closer of course, cause you could detect that |
| 16:27.11 | maia | hm. so if GetUnitRange(unit) returns 45yrds and 1sec, then this could mean three things: a) unit was in 30yrds range 2sec ago and slightly moved b) unit was at >45yrds and moved into range c) unit has always been in the 30-45 range and has casted a spell a sec ago. |
| 16:27.18 | Tekkub | basically, if they were running directly away from you and you saw them at 30 yards, then it'd take 2.25-4.5 sec for them to get completely out of log range |
| 16:27.41 | Tekkub | but since I'll be updating at 0.5 sec intervals, you'll actually cut that down to 2.25-2.785 |
| 16:27.45 | Tekkub | *2.75 |
| 16:28.11 | Tekkub | yea maia |
| 16:28.29 | Tekkub | it sucks that we can't directly test the 40 yard range, that would be very useful |
| 16:28.41 | Tekkub | since it seems to be the common range |
| 16:29.14 | MoonWolf | dinner |
| 16:29.21 | maia | sec, phone. |
| 16:35.51 | maia | uum, another idea. What about UnitIsVisible()? it returns an approx. 100yrds range. |
| 16:36.22 | maia | I'd still love to check the range for UNIT_HEALTH.... |
| 16:36.27 | Tekkub | hrm... but is that useful? |
| 16:36.41 | maia | good question. :) |
| 16:36.57 | maia | maybe in combination with UNIT_HEALTH. |
| 16:37.27 | Tekkub | so go test out unit health :P |
| 16:38.19 | maia | want to roll a lvl1 toon with me to test it, tekkub? not easy to do it all alone. |
| 16:38.51 | Tekkub | hop on Icecrown, I got a priest I can use |
| 16:39.25 | maia | horde or alliance? which starting area is closest to your priest? |
| 16:39.28 | Tekkub | or rather, druid, IC, horde, tauren |
| 16:39.41 | Tekkub | look for Girth :) |
| 16:39.55 | maia | ok, rolling tauren druid on icecrown. give me a minute. |
| 16:50.34 | Neronix`afk | Ooo, someone wants to compete with me |
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| 16:52.28 | Tekkub | just make branches so they're easy to merge |
| 16:52.31 | Tekkub | mt |
| 16:53.27 | Neronix | hmm, first, need to add battle duration to NS itself |
| 16:56.01 | Amadeo_ | You still planning on that seperate addon to plug into FuBar, Neronix? |
| 16:57.16 | Neronix | Yeah |
| 16:57.26 | Neronix | That's getting written in roughly an hour's time |
| 16:57.34 | Amadeo_ | oh wow :) |
| 16:57.37 | Amadeo_ | I can't wait |
| 16:57.49 | Neronix | The release of something that's trying to compete with me is encouraging me to hurry the fuck up |
| 16:58.24 | Amadeo_ | what was released? |
| 16:58.32 | Neronix | and squash said competition, which uses a zomg-wtf-everything-in-a-box-which-is>88kb parser |
| 16:58.48 | Amadeo_ | oh, FuBar-DPS? |
| 16:59.03 | Neronix | Not telling you: Losing market share would discourage me to improve my only-use-what-I-need-thank-you-very-much code |
| 16:59.07 | Neronix | agh, you guessed |
| 16:59.12 | Amadeo_ | haha |
| 16:59.18 | Amadeo_ | I'm not gonna use it |
| 16:59.21 | Amadeo_ | I don't know him |
| 16:59.24 | Amadeo_ | I know you! |
| 16:59.27 | Neronix | <3!! |
| 16:59.42 | Amadeo_ | But you're right, you have to stomp that addon all over the place now! |
| 16:59.43 | Neronix | anyways, his parsers bigger than a ps3 |
| 17:00.03 | Amadeo_ | hahah |
| 17:00.25 | Neronix | mine is like, a quarter the size, and plus babblelib core, about 3/8ths the size |
| 17:00.54 | Amadeo_ | Don't worry, I promise I'll use only yours :) |
| 17:01.23 | Neronix | <3 |
| 17:01.42 | Neronix | emulate Neronix is His parser's bigger than a PS3!! |
| 17:01.53 | Neronix | ~emulate Neronix is His parser's bigger than a PS3!! |
| 17:02.00 | purl | ...but emulate neronix is already something else... |
| 17:02.03 | Amadeo_ | haha |
| 17:02.23 | Neronix | ~purl no, emulate Neronix is His parser's bigger than a PS3!! |
| 17:02.25 | purl | Neronix: okay |
| 17:03.06 | Tekkub | ~horse buttholes |
| 17:03.07 | purl | from a cup! |
| 17:03.58 | CIA-17 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r2156 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua BulkMail.toc CHANGELOG): |
| 17:03.58 | CIA-17 | BulkMail: |
| 17:03.58 | CIA-17 | - .toc fixed for Metrognome embed...lousy DOS backslashes.../mutter |
| 17:05.46 | CIA-17 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r2157 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua BulkMail.toc): |
| 17:05.46 | CIA-17 | BulkMail: |
| 17:05.47 | CIA-17 | - Version numbers updated for new WoWI release |
| 17:06.15 | Tain | Wow. X3 sucked. |
| 17:10.12 | CIA-17 | 03maia * r2158 10Squishy/Squishy.xml: Squishy: fix for targetting problem with WatchDog click casting. |
| 17:15.26 | Neronix | Elkano, you around? |
| 17:20.04 | MoonWolf | i want chat event for when your being /who'd friended and inspected. |
| 17:29.40 | ckknight | Industrial, here |
| 17:31.07 | Amadeo_ | MoonWolf: Like inspecting in EQ? |
| 17:31.21 | MoonWolf | never played eq |
| 17:31.39 | Amadeo_ | in EQ, when someone inspected you, it said: "MoonWolf is inspecting you..." |
| 17:31.39 | MoonWolf | Yust a [player] is inspecting you |
| 17:32.02 | Amadeo_ | /who'd might cause too much spam sometimes |
| 17:32.02 | Tekkub | I'm glad we DON'T have that |
| 17:32.08 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that was freaking annoying |
| 17:32.14 | hyperChipmunk | it felt like a privacy invasion |
| 17:32.21 | Amadeo_ | I loved knowing who was admiring me |
| 17:32.22 | Amadeo_ | :) |
| 17:32.24 | MoonWolf | turn it off then. |
| 17:32.25 | hyperChipmunk | you'd have newbies spam clicking on you |
| 17:32.25 | Tekkub | the fucking JP players in FFXI took it as some sort of damn insult if you didn't ask first |
| 17:32.37 | Amadeo_ | Tekkub: It was like that in EQ also |
| 17:32.40 | hyperChipmunk | and yea, people get angry at you when you don't ask to inspect |
| 17:32.43 | Amadeo_ | People would run away if you didn't ask first |
| 17:32.45 | Amadeo_ | it was hilariou |
| 17:32.45 | Amadeo_ | s |
| 17:33.00 | Amadeo_ | The inspect range in EQ was really small |
| 17:33.05 | Tekkub | exactly, it's not a matter of bugging me, it's a matter of people acting like you're looking up their pants |
| 17:33.22 | Amadeo_ | True |
| 17:33.26 | Tekkub | in FFXI an equip change closes the inspecting window |
| 17:33.31 | Amadeo_ | but maybe I want to look up their pants |
| 17:33.44 | Tekkub | so you could annoy the really anal people by forcing them to constantly change their gear |
| 17:35.14 | Amadeo_ | hahah |
| 17:35.17 | Kaelten | can someone give me some input on the colors :http://www.kaelcycle.net/ |
| 17:35.25 | Tekkub | gay |
| 17:35.27 | Tekkub | totally gay |
| 17:35.49 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 17:35.51 | Kaelten | so you like it Tekkub? |
| 17:35.52 | Tekkub | like fuh LAME ING! |
| 17:36.03 | Amadeo_ | I don't like the way the colors contrast |
| 17:36.17 | Neronix | Horrid |
| 17:36.34 | Kaelten | heh |
| 17:36.34 | Neronix | If it had a smell, it'd stink of raw sewage |
| 17:36.34 | Neronix | :P |
| 17:36.35 | Tekkub | don't ask my design shit, the only way my clothes match is if they're all the exact same color |
| 17:36.39 | Kaelten | I've had about 35 different color schems |
| 17:36.40 | Industrial | lol Tekkub |
| 17:36.46 | Tekkub | I don't have "the sense" |
| 17:36.55 | Kaelten | and I don't really like any of them |
| 17:37.01 | Tekkub | also my gaydar gets interference from gay weather ballons |
| 17:37.11 | Industrial | lmao |
| 17:37.14 | Industrial | gaydar |
| 17:37.18 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:37.28 | maia | I'm gonna make you responsible for my headache, kaelten! :) |
| 17:37.46 | Tekkub | I don't think they like the colors K |
| 17:38.40 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 17:38.45 | Kaelten | ok ok, back ot the drawing board |
| 17:40.06 | maia | any way to check if a spell is currently being cast other than watching SPELLCAST_START and SPELLCAST_STOP? |
| 17:42.42 | Tekkub | not that I know of |
| 17:42.49 | Tekkub | I hate those spellcast event |
| 17:42.51 | Tekkub | *s |
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| 17:46.09 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (i=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:47.59 | Tekkub | http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1114684292/La_La_La_La |
| 17:48.10 | Industrial | my sis got me into getting food again >_> |
| 17:48.10 | Industrial | bbl |
| 17:48.23 | Industrial | Kaelten: oswd.org |
| 17:48.35 | Industrial | np[ |
| 17:48.56 | maia | Tekkub: does that media file ever end? |
| 17:49.04 | Tekkub | nah |
| 17:49.09 | maia | I might be watching the 10th loop now. |
| 17:49.19 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 17:49.26 | gnorlish | it ends |
| 17:49.33 | gnorlish | just... keep watching |
| 17:49.37 | maia | okay, I'll keep watching. |
| 17:49.42 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 17:49.53 | gnorlish | i'll be back at 6pm est, tell me if it's over then |
| 17:50.31 | maia | la la lala la la, la la lala la la... |
| 17:51.18 | Industrial | Kaelten: and django |
| 17:51.18 | Industrial | :P |
| 17:52.45 | maia | Tekkub: I also watched http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/magical+trevor/ until animation and sound was totally out of sync. took like 2 hours. |
| 17:54.31 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 17:54.43 | Tekkub | the cow is back... |
| 17:55.18 | haste | haha, I've deon the same maia :p |
| 17:56.56 | Neronix | lol, I did it with badgerbadgerbadger I think XD |
| 17:58.16 | Tekkub | presents presents presents presents presents presents presents presents |
| 17:58.24 | Tekkub | SANTA SANTA! |
| 17:59.05 | MoonWolf | ? |
| 18:02.54 | haste | steino: haha |
| 18:02.59 | haste | hm |
| 18:03.04 | haste | how did I manage to do that :O |
| 18:03.16 | haste | ~stab keyboard |
| 18:03.22 | purl | ACTION runs at keyboard with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 18:04.56 | CIA-17 | 03maia * r2159 10SmartRes/ (SmartRes.lua SmartResLocals.lua): |
| 18:04.56 | CIA-17 | SmartRes: - no res attempts while casting |
| 18:04.56 | CIA-17 | - no double-ressing people who didn't accept yet |
| 18:04.56 | CIA-17 | - configure channel by editing the locals file |
| 18:09.52 | *** join/#wowace Stylpe (n=Stylpe@185.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
| 18:09.58 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl) |
| 18:09.58 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 18:10.19 | Stylpe | Man, learning hiragana is a lot harder than I thought it would be |
| 18:10.32 | MoonWolf | DUH |
| 18:11.01 | Stylpe | Especially writing it, since I don't have anyone to correct my subtle mistakes |
| 18:12.53 | Stylpe | (this is supposed to be the point where everyone cheers me on and tells me I can do it) |
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| 18:16.57 | MoonWolf | you cant do it stylpe , i know you cant. |
| 18:17.17 | Stylpe | MoonWolf, noone listens to you anyway |
| 18:17.25 | MoonWolf | I know |
| 18:18.18 | *** join/#wowace haste (n=haste@host-81-191-131-80.bluecom.no) |
| 18:22.53 | Neronix | Rawr! What colour would you all like the duration line in NanoStats to be? The default yellow, white, or what? |
| 18:23.07 | Neronix | ("what" can't be red or green :P) |
| 18:25.18 | maia | pink |
| 18:25.34 | maia | j/k. probably white. |
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| 18:25.57 | MoonWolf | wi vote purpelisgh grey |
| 18:28.02 | Neronix | Hmm, white it is |
| 18:29.27 | Stylpe | ~nanostats |
| 18:30.09 | haste | how about: yellow on a light background! |
| 18:30.14 | CIA-17 | 03maia * r2160 10Squishy/ (core.lua locals.lua locals_frFR.lua): Squishy: working on french localization |
| 18:30.43 | Stylpe | ~nanostats is NanoStats displays your current battle (When you finish a fight, it'll still display the data from that fight) average DPS/HPS/Both and total damage/healing/both in a VERY minimalistic and lightweight fashion. |
| 18:30.45 | purl | Stylpe: what are you talking about? |
| 18:31.14 | Stylpe | nanostats is NanoStats displays your current battle (When you finish a fight, it'll still display the data from that fight) average DPS/HPS/Both and total damage/healing/both in a VERY minimalistic and lightweight fashion. |
| 18:31.24 | Stylpe | hmm |
| 18:32.00 | Neronix | /thank Stylpe |
| 18:32.46 | maia | hm? |
| 18:32.47 | maia | ~nanostats |
| 18:32.49 | purl | rumour has it, nanostats is "NanoStats displays your current battle (When you finish a fight, it'll still display the data from that fight) average DPS/HPS/Both and total damage/healing/both in a VERY minimalistic and lightweight fashion." |
| 18:33.03 | Stylpe | try again |
| 18:33.08 | maia | ~Squishy |
| 18:33.14 | Stylpe | ~nanostats |
| 18:33.15 | purl | [nanostats] an addon that displays your current battle (When you finish a fight, it'll still display the data from that fight) average DPS/HPS/Both and total damage/healing/both in a VERY minimalistic and lightweight fashion. |
| 18:33.43 | maia | ~Squishy |
| 18:34.06 | Stylpe | Well, what is Squishy? |
| 18:35.00 | maia | Squishy: a raid+party emergency monitor with a look and feel similar to PerfectRaid. |
| 18:35.17 | Stylpe | ~squishy is a raid+party emergency monitor with a look and feel similar to PerfectRaid. |
| 18:35.18 | purl | Stylpe: okay |
| 18:35.23 | Stylpe | =) |
| 18:35.59 | maia | so what else is in your database? |
| 18:36.31 | Stylpe | It's not my database, it's public |
| 18:36.39 | Stylpe | ~kic |
| 18:36.41 | purl | hmm... kic is KeepItCool, an addon by Stylpe that reminds you when your tradeskill cooldowns are up, with FuBar support. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4248 |
| 18:37.18 | maia | is purl a bot? |
| 18:37.28 | Neronix | Yeah |
| 18:37.35 | Stylpe | ~no, nanostats is an addon that displays your current battle (When you finish a fight, it'll still display the data from that fight) average DPS/HPS/Both and total damage/healing/both in a VERY minimalistic and lightweight fashion. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4961 |
| 18:38.09 | Stylpe | hm |
| 18:38.20 | maia | so purl will save anything behind a tilde and post it once it sees that string again? |
| 18:38.28 | Stylpe | Not anything |
| 18:38.40 | Stylpe | Has to be ~x is y |
| 18:38.54 | Stylpe | and it's a girl |
| 18:38.54 | Thrae | Tekkub? |
| 18:38.58 | maia | ~maia is hungry. |
| 18:39.00 | purl | okay, maia |
| 18:39.06 | Tekkub | oro? |
| 18:39.07 | maia | thanks, purl. |
| 18:39.12 | maia | ~maia |
| 18:39.13 | purl | methinks maia is hungry. |
| 18:39.18 | maia | lol |
| 18:39.38 | maia | I've been in this chat for a week now and didn't realize purl is a bot. |
| 18:39.45 | Thrae | Tekkub: With Metrognome, is it bad to have a lot of Unregister calls instead of Stop? |
| 18:39.50 | Stylpe | You could try "purl, thanks" too, but I'm not sure if that works anymore |
| 18:39.56 | hyperChipmunk | ~thanks |
| 18:39.56 | purl | hyperChipmunk: no problem |
| 18:39.59 | Tekkub | kinda |
| 18:40.07 | Tekkub | unregister removes a table |
| 18:40.11 | Stylpe | thought so |
| 18:40.13 | Tekkub | register creates one |
| 18:40.16 | maia | omg, purl just sent me a PM. |
| 18:40.18 | Thrae | Ahhh, gotcha |
| 18:40.36 | Tekkub | you shouldn't need to unregister unless you don't plan on using the timer for a looooooooooooooong time |
| 18:40.43 | Thrae | So I should probably just use Start + ChangeRate + Stop instead of Register and Unregister |
| 18:40.53 | Tekkub | just start/stop and makybe ChangeRate |
| 18:40.57 | maia | ~purl |
| 18:40.58 | purl | it has been said that purl is not a bot |
| 18:41.10 | Tekkub | yea, timers should be a one-time setup really |
| 18:41.15 | maia | ~purl |
| 18:41.16 | purl | [purl] not a bot |
| 18:41.21 | Thrae | Yeah, I'm switching over the OnUpdate script which gives a "Heartbeat" sound effect in VitalWatch over to Metrognome |
| 18:41.25 | Tekkub | er, one time register |
| 18:41.29 | maia | (sorry for the spam, guys) |
| 18:41.37 | Tekkub | ~hot dickings |
| 18:41.38 | purl | JUST GIVING EM OUT! |
| 18:41.40 | Thrae | So the "heartrate" will be changing everytime your health changes past the threshold |
| 18:42.02 | Tekkub | yea just use changerate, which BTW will reset the elapsed timer to 0 |
| 18:42.12 | Thrae | Yeah, I saw that in the Lua file ;) |
| 18:42.12 | Tekkub | so it's kinda like using a Start to reset it |
| 18:42.13 | Stylpe | maia, you can register your nick with NickServ, and try purl out in a private convo |
| 18:42.14 | ckknight__ | cool idea, Thrae |
| 18:42.34 | Thrae | ckknight__: Not my idea unfortunately, I stole it from THE_LowHealthWarning after someone suggested it ;) |
| 18:42.40 | maia | Stylpe: great idea. |
| 18:42.48 | Tekkub | but yea, don't unregister a timer unless you plan on not using it ever again this session |
| 18:43.09 | ckknight | I only unregister when the addon is disabled |
| 18:43.16 | Tekkub | yea, basically |
| 18:43.29 | Tekkub | it's like unregisterallevents really |
| 18:43.35 | Thrae | Yeah that reminds me, I need to make a special Disable method now |
| 18:44.12 | Thrae | In Ace, do you need to manually unregister events if you define your own Disable method, or does it still do that automatically? |
| 18:44.52 | Tekkub | yes and no |
| 18:45.03 | Tekkub | it depends on how your disable gets called |
| 18:45.18 | Tekkub | it's safest to handle all the unregistering/unhooking in your disable |
| 18:45.25 | Tekkub | instead of letting Ace do it |
| 18:45.26 | Thrae | Ah, I see. |
| 18:47.09 | Industrial | Kaelten: did you check out that site? |
| 18:52.00 | CIA-17 | 03neronix * r2161 10NanoStats/ (Changelog.txt NanoStats.lua NanoStatsLocals.lua Readme.txt): |
| 18:52.01 | CIA-17 | NanoStats |
| 18:52.01 | CIA-17 | - Added duration. Off by default, configurable via the right click menu just |
| 18:52.01 | CIA-17 | like everything else. Probably the last actual feature that's needed and only |
| 18:52.01 | CIA-17 | implemented because A) I needed it B) Most of the code needed was already there. |
| 18:52.01 | CIA-17 | - Trimmed some excess fat in config handling |
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| 18:52.57 | Industrial | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/tabardmini-126-02101649.html |
| 18:53.27 | Thrae | When doing an if...then statement for a function that has multiple returns, is there a way to evaluate all returns without putting them into variables beforehand? |
| 18:53.37 | Industrial | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/tabardmini-134-02101649.html |
| 18:55.21 | Tekkub | don't think so Thrae, it shortcircuits |
| 18:55.34 | Tekkub | why you need to test everything in all cases anyway? |
| 18:55.36 | Industrial | or just plain: http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/tabardmini-97-02101649.html |
| 18:56.01 | Thrae | Just curious, it would make code a lot cleaner in some cases (especially string.find) |
| 18:56.31 | Tekkub | oh wait I misread... |
| 18:56.43 | Tekkub | you want if string.find() == blah blah blahb |
| 18:56.51 | Tekkub | yea that'll only use thi first return |
| 18:57.03 | Tekkub | you can make an encase function the |
| 18:57.08 | Thrae | Wait, there has to be a way to do what I'm doing, it'd be trivial to make a function to do it |
| 18:57.48 | Thrae | Lua, a language that implements multiple returns, doesn't have a function which lets you evaluate multiple true/false expressions? |
| 18:58.26 | Tekkub | mystrfind = function(a1,a2) local _, _, r1, r2, r3, r4, r5 = stirng.find(a1, a2) return r1, r2, r3, r4, r5 end |
| 18:58.54 | Thrae | Yeah, I know how to make one :D I'm just surprised Lua doesn't have one by default. |
| 18:59.05 | Tekkub | *shrug* |
| 18:59.18 | Tekkub | I'd just take out what you need into locals first |
| 18:59.35 | Thrae | It just makes long nested ifs that much messier. |
| 18:59.41 | Tekkub | or make a function to take it all in one call and return back a true/false |
| 19:00.21 | Tekkub | heck, maybe a generic "GetArg" function is in order |
| 19:00.47 | Tekkub | GetArg(func,er, GetReturn |
| 19:00.50 | Tekkub | gah |
| 19:00.55 | Thrae | Wait, wait...multiple returns come back as a table, right? |
| 19:01.11 | ckknight | you can also do function getthird(_,_,value) return value end |
| 19:01.14 | Thrae | So couldn't I do sting.find(foo,bar)[3] ? |
| 19:01.16 | Tekkub | GetReturn(func, returnindex, a1,a2,a3...) |
| 19:01.52 | Tekkub | you could do {string.find(foo, bar)}[3] but that creates a table, can we say garbage churn? |
| 19:02.16 | Tekkub | and if you need many returns from the same call you'll be calling more than once |
| 19:02.19 | Thrae | Well, my example won't work if string.find returns nil instead of {nil,nil,nil} |
| 19:02.42 | Tekkub | yea gotta watch nils too |
| 19:02.53 | Tekkub | I think a generic function is in order |
| 19:02.59 | Neronix | Hmm, wonder what'll happen when I do /script _G = nil |
| 19:04.31 | ckknight | Neronix, WoW doesn't have _G |
| 19:04.42 | Thrae | Neronix: From the Lua Manual: "Lua itself does not use this variable..." |
| 19:05.10 | Neronix | Ah |
| 19:06.15 | Thrae | Tekkub: Aha! I KNEW Lua had this feature. It was on the tip of my tounge, but I wasn't 100% sure so I checked. |
| 19:06.35 | Tekkub | oro? |
| 19:06.41 | Industrial | I have no experience whatsoever with talents, so i need help planning my priest |
| 19:06.43 | Industrial | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/talents-priest-05023213010050320020501020050000125100000000000.html |
| 19:06.58 | Thrae | select(index,...) -- If index is a number, returns all arguments after argument number index. Otherwise, index must be a string "#" and select returns the total number of extra arguments it receives. |
| 19:07.17 | Tekkub | ah |
| 19:07.25 | Tekkub | no garbage churn doing that? |
| 19:07.54 | Amadeo_ | whoa |
| 19:08.04 | Amadeo_ | my armpits smell like maple syrup, what the hell |
| 19:08.28 | Thrae | Well, all Lua basic functions are C-coded, right? If you get down to the C, it's trivial to do that function without resorting to 'new' statements. |
| 19:08.34 | Thrae | Err, malloc |
| 19:08.56 | Industrial | Anyone/ |
| 19:09.12 | Thrae | Amadeo_: That's nature's way of saying, "Time for a bath." |
| 19:09.46 | Tekkub | local a |
| 19:09.46 | Tekkub | local m,t = gcinfo(), GetTime() |
| 19:09.46 | Tekkub | for i=1,10000 do a = select(3, 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) end |
| 19:09.46 | Tekkub | print(GetTime()-t, gcinfo()-m) |
| 19:09.57 | Tekkub | it's eating up 2500 KiB on exec every time |
| 19:10.23 | Thrae | Amadeo_: To digress, your particular scent is determined by what you eat and your genes. Asian people, for example, often say Americans smell like steak, while Americans say Asians smell like fish. |
| 19:10.32 | Tekkub | so I'd wager a guess that it's allocating a table and then unpacking it as a return |
| 19:10.42 | ckknight | Tekkub, what's select? |
| 19:10.58 | Tekkub | that think Thrae wants to use |
| 19:11.02 | Tekkub | *thing |
| 19:11.03 | ckknight | Koreans smell like Kim Chee |
| 19:11.04 | Tekkub | scroll up a tad |
| 19:11.05 | Thrae | ckknight: Scroll up, I just gave the description from Lua's manual ;) |
| 19:11.34 | Industrial | Aw cmon no-one here plays priesT? |
| 19:11.38 | Thrae | Tekkub: Hmmm, that's weird. |
| 19:11.51 | hyperChipmunk | I wrote select as a global in BulkMail +P |
| 19:12.06 | Amadeo_ | haha |
| 19:12.19 | Amadeo_ | Thrae: I'd be happy if my underarms always smelled this way |
| 19:12.24 | Tekkub | hC, your select is overriding the default one? |
| 19:12.25 | Amadeo_ | I wouldn't need to buy deoderant anymore |
| 19:12.33 | hyperChipmunk | function select(n, ...) return arg[n] |
| 19:12.34 | hyperChipmunk | end |
| 19:12.54 | Amadeo_ | People say Americans smell like steak? |
| 19:12.56 | Tekkub | yea hC... good going.... |
| 19:13.08 | Amadeo_ | Tekkub: You know you want to |
| 19:13.08 | Thrae | Thought it was args not arg? |
| 19:13.31 | Tekkub | well then I just tested hC's version :P |
| 19:13.35 | Industrial | "Lords of fire" "fellowship of nordrassil" |
| 19:13.37 | Thrae | Amadeo_: People that live in countries that eat more seafood then steak do. |
| 19:13.42 | Industrial | "eternal guardians" |
| 19:13.44 | Amadeo_ | Interesting |
| 19:13.49 | Industrial | damn alliance |
| 19:13.51 | Industrial | :P |
| 19:14.00 | Tekkub | I wrote up a select just now too, gimme a sec |
| 19:14.08 | ckknight | Industrial, can I get idAutoAttack? |
| 19:14.32 | Tekkub | Thrae, it's saying select doesn't exist |
| 19:14.39 | Tekkub | (I disabled BM |
| 19:14.57 | Thrae | I'm looking at Lua 5.1 |
| 19:15.28 | Cairenn | Tekkub: ... |
| 19:15.34 | Thrae | It's new in Lua 5.1, not included in Lua 5.0 |
| 19:15.39 | Thrae | WoW uses 5.0 eh? |
| 19:15.48 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:16.22 | Thrae | Well there you go. Weird how hyperChipmunk's version would cause so much GC though... |
| 19:16.46 | Thrae | Maybe because of the args table construction and trashing. |
| 19:16.48 | Tekkub | no it's not, it creates a table on every call |
| 19:17.57 | Thrae | Well, can't you do select = function(index,t) if t.n <= index return t[index] else return nil end end |
| 19:18.04 | Amadeo_ | I've been on a pretty fruit/veggie intensive diet lately, so maybe that's why |
| 19:18.16 | Thrae | Since aren't multiple returns sent back as a table? |
| 19:18.29 | Industrial | ckknight: It works, but it needs optimization |
| 19:18.34 | Industrial | its kinda slow |
| 19:18.37 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:18.50 | Industrial | At least, I made it and then started playing a rogue |
| 19:19.09 | Industrial | when i gouged it was too slow with putting attack off that i un-cc'ed the mob |
| 19:19.25 | Industrial | errr |
| 19:19.33 | Industrial | its not in my addon folder -_-' |
| 19:19.51 | Neronix | Yay, I think I know how self works now! |
| 19:20.22 | Industrial | heh |
| 19:21.02 | Industrial | a={} a.b='foo' a:c=function() print(self.b) end a:c() |
| 19:21.09 | Industrial | foo, in a table. |
| 19:21.22 | Amadeo_ | snakes, on a plane. |
| 19:21.28 | Industrial | OMG WHERE |
| 19:21.32 | Amadeo_ | haha |
| 19:21.34 | *** join/#wowace Stylpe (n=Stylpe@185.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:21.53 | Industrial | Stylpe: do you have idAutoAttack on your HD? >_> |
| 19:22.04 | Stylpe | Nope |
| 19:22.11 | Tekkub | Thrae |
| 19:22.12 | Industrial | lost it T_T |
| 19:22.14 | Neronix | Time to ubercleanup NS to use self |
| 19:22.17 | Stylpe | Or rather, not that I know of =P |
| 19:22.17 | Tekkub | got a func for you :) |
| 19:22.40 | Neronix | who? |
| 19:22.44 | Tekkub | http://ace.pastebin.com/743429 |
| 19:22.58 | Tekkub | it'll only handle up to 20 args, but should be plenty |
| 19:23.37 | Tekkub | and no, multiple returns are multiple returns, not a table |
| 19:23.56 | hyperChipmunk | that's ugly man |
| 19:24.00 | Thrae | bwhaha...yeah, that'll work, but it looks ugly |
| 19:24.14 | Tekkub | ugly, yes, but it don't waste memory like yours :P |
| 19:24.14 | Neronix | what would you use that for? |
| 19:24.29 | hyperChipmunk | that looks like a 9th grade intro to CS solution |
| 19:24.37 | Thrae | Tekkub: That was hyperChipmunk's function, not mine ;) |
| 19:24.39 | Tekkub | take a look at the new vs old acehooks and aceevents, it's the same table shit |
| 19:24.54 | Tekkub | yes thrae, the comment was aimed at hC too |
| 19:26.55 | Tekkub | anywho, throwing that lil snippet in my personal library :) |
| 19:27.21 | hyperChipmunk | i think select is defined as being a single return |
| 19:27.45 | Tekkub | you didn't read what Thrae pasted did you? |
| 19:28.10 | Tekkub | select(index,...) -- If index is a number, returns all arguments after argument number index. Otherwise, index must be a string "#" and select returns the total number of extra arguments it receives. |
| 19:28.12 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 19:28.35 | Thrae | What if the select function just used a static table which is manually set up for GC? |
| 19:28.55 | Thrae | A static table in Lua just being a global table that we hope people won't touch. |
| 19:29.06 | hyperChipmunk | well let's just get wow to switch to 5.1 and we can make this discussion moot |
| 19:29.25 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: I think slouken said "Too much trouble for now" ;) |
| 19:29.42 | Tekkub | erasing and reusing a table is more costly than a big block of if/elseifs like that one |
| 19:29.42 | hyperChipmunk | hire us to do it; |
| 19:29.43 | hyperChipmunk | code plz |
| 19:30.02 | hyperChipmunk | we'll fix a bunch of other crap while we're at it,too |
| 19:30.35 | Thrae | Tekkub: The table wouldn't be erased, the indexs will just be reused. |
| 19:30.45 | Tekkub | Blizzy should work out a "contract dev" system for mod authors :) |
| 19:30.53 | Thrae | Wait, my idea won't work because function(foo,...) makes the args table anyway. Damn. |
| 19:31.26 | Tekkub | you register and sign your code, blizzy can weed out Decursive, we get a share of the money they make since we're writing their UI for them... |
| 19:31.36 | Tekkub | seriously, how many raids out there don't use CTRA/oRA? |
| 19:31.53 | Thrae | Tekkub: And then what happens to the people working at Blizzard actually paid to work on the default UI? :D |
| 19:32.10 | Tekkub | people work on the default UI? |
| 19:32.11 | Neronix | Tekkub: Almost every BG raid :P |
| 19:32.13 | Tekkub | *hides* |
| 19:32.21 | Thrae | Blizzard isn't going to make a definitive stance on CTRA anytime soon. |
| 19:32.23 | Tekkub | BGs aren't raids! |
| 19:32.23 | hyperChipmunk | they get fired cuz they can't write code for jack |
| 19:32.35 | Tekkub | BG's are running around killing people :) |
| 19:32.38 | Thrae | I am very surprised they made a stance on Decursive, a half-assed stance though it may be. |
| 19:32.41 | Neronix | fine then |
| 19:32.43 | hyperChipmunk | no wonder you hate pvp |
| 19:32.49 | hyperChipmunk | you suck at it |
| 19:32.53 | Tekkub | Thrae, have you looked at patch 1.11L |
| 19:32.56 | Tekkub | ? |
| 19:33.07 | Thrae | Tekkub: Huh? |
| 19:33.08 | Tekkub | it's got all the "good" parts of the core CTRA in it |
| 19:33.30 | Thrae | Oh? Lemme take another look. |
| 19:33.37 | Tekkub | you know, the shit that people install it for, not all that fluff that is kinda optional |
| 19:33.48 | Tekkub | raidsay frame, target assignment |
| 19:33.53 | Tekkub | ready check |
| 19:34.24 | Tekkub | tanks are not a necessity really, helpful for some people yes, but easy to play without |
| 19:34.35 | Tekkub | all the other checks are kinda meh really |
| 19:34.57 | Thrae | But lemme just tell you, when I learned that CMs are trying to actively cover up the fact that "gold selling" EXISTS, I realized that Blizzard has a problem taking active stances. |
| 19:35.04 | Tekkub | and the unitframes and buff/decurse shit just flat out does not belong in CTRA core |
| 19:35.19 | Tekkub | gee really? |
| 19:35.38 | Tekkub | sad thing is they're a shitton better about shit than Squeenix ever was |
| 19:35.58 | Tekkub | they know they got farmers and they work to make it hard on them |
| 19:36.08 | Tekkub | SE took ages to even admit there was a problem |
| 19:36.11 | Thrae | Yeah, CMs are deleting all posts with the phrase "gold selling" in them, or posts hinting at "gold selling", even if the posts do not mention company names or links. |
| 19:36.35 | Tekkub | and then another year or so to start implementing game changes to fix the issues like training mobs against other players |
| 19:36.57 | Tekkub | *shrug* deleting forum posts don't bother me |
| 19:37.12 | Tekkub | the forum is a 99:1 noise:signal ratio anyway |
| 19:37.16 | Thrae | Still, trying to pubicly deny the issue isn't the right call. |
| 19:38.04 | Tekkub | eh, I really don't even look at the forums aside from the UI bits |
| 19:38.19 | Tekkub | it's just too much noise to filter thru |
| 19:38.55 | Thrae | If people don't even know what "gold selling" is, then how are they suppose to know it's wrong? You can claim that most people probably already know what it is and what it means to Blizzard, but then what Blizzard is doing with its forums doesn't make sense. |
| 19:39.48 | Tekkub | don't interpret the forums as "what Blizzard's doing" unless it's a post that says "hey this is what were're doing"... |
| 19:39.53 | Tekkub | the CM's are just PR |
| 19:40.20 | Thrae | Still, I don't think a blue sticky that says "What is gold selling and why we don't tolerate it" is going to boost the sales of gold sellers much. |
| 19:40.21 | Tekkub | they're there to make the users shut the fuck up and every now and then relay some important info between the devs and the users |
| 19:40.54 | Thrae | Well, the CMs are part of Blizzard, and the CMs are PR, which means they speak for Blizzard. |
| 19:41.21 | Tekkub | heh, I never consider PR people to be speaking for the company |
| 19:41.22 | Thrae | I'm not saying Blizzard isn't doing their part to undermine gold sellers, I'm just saying this PR tactic will backfire on them. |
| 19:41.43 | Neronix | Random question, see if I do "local MyAddon = AceAddon:new({ pie = foo })", would it still work, or does it NEED to be in a global? |
| 19:42.00 | Tekkub | they're just the press secratary, there to give no useful information until the people behind the scenes decide it's time to say something |
| 19:42.33 | Tekkub | need to be global? doubt it |
| 19:42.38 | Thrae | Yes, and it's the lack of information behind the scenes on this issue that I think is wrong. |
| 19:42.40 | Tekkub | but it could be handy |
| 19:43.10 | Neronix | Ok, thanks |
| 19:43.14 | Thrae | Neronix: Look at the templates, most people do AddonName = AceAddon:new({ ... }) |
| 19:43.17 | Tekkub | yea well, they still do a million times better at fixing the issue than SE ever did |
| 19:43.28 | Thrae | Tekkub: That I agree with ;) |
| 19:43.32 | Tekkub | FFXI became downright unplayable due to the gilsellers |
| 19:43.47 | Tekkub | WoW I only get the occational ninja I have to worry about |
| 19:43.57 | Tekkub | not PUGing fixes that issue right there |
| 19:44.16 | Neronix | I screwed with a farmer's head for a couple of days on the home stretch to 60 ages ago |
| 19:44.30 | Neronix | Was grinding at the frozen lake in winterspring, competing with a pally farmer |
| 19:44.39 | Thrae | Tekkub: Are there still bugs with ML? |
| 19:44.42 | Neronix | I ninja'd all his mobs with exorcism just before he got in melee range |
| 19:44.53 | Neronix | and the worst thing was, he didn't know he could do the same XD |
| 19:44.56 | Tekkub | heh, no clue Thrae |
| 19:45.43 | Thrae | I can't see how ninja'ing could happen with WoW's system unless you pick the character of your Master Looter wrong, or for some reason use FFA. |
| 19:46.21 | Tekkub | because we weren't using ML and people don't use NbG correctly |
| 19:46.21 | Tekkub | but that's their fault |
| 19:46.26 | Thrae | Ahhh |
| 19:46.34 | hyperChipmunk | I do ffa |
| 19:46.39 | Neronix | I've seen a few screenshots of trusted people who eneded up ml and ninjaing things and immediately /gquitting |
| 19:46.43 | Tekkub | I honestly don't get why people refuse to use NbG the way it was designed |
| 19:47.01 | Tekkub | but meh |
| 19:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | and raids have to sometimes because ML doesn't work with people disconnected |
| 19:47.12 | Tekkub | it doesn't matter, I don't PUG I play with friends |
| 19:47.27 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 19:47.32 | Tekkub | our guild raids are always FFA, officers only allowed to loot |
| 19:47.36 | Tekkub | it's worked fine |
| 19:47.43 | Thrae | I know! |
| 19:47.46 | Tekkub | but then there's inherit trust needed with a guild |
| 19:47.59 | Tekkub | if you have a ninja the loot rules aren't the problem |
| 19:48.05 | Thrae | There should be a check for 'Need' |
| 19:48.33 | Tekkub | I think it should just be a group vote |
| 19:48.42 | Thrae | Exactly. |
| 19:48.51 | Tekkub | you mark as need, the group members can veto your need vote |
| 19:49.03 | Tekkub | if the group overrides you get a pass or greed |
| 19:49.13 | *** join/#wowace ckknight_ (n=ckknight@rrcs-67-53-204-251.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 19:49.13 | Tekkub | or whatever... |
| 19:49.21 | Thrae | Whoever wins the 'Need' roll still needs to pass group vote. |
| 19:49.46 | Tekkub | or just allow loot items to be traded between members until the group is disbanded |
| 19:50.19 | Tekkub | then if there's an accident you can fix it, if someone does a true ninja it'd be blatently obvious |
| 19:50.52 | Thrae | Also, there should be MLG, or Master Looter Group, where consensus would be needed. |
| 19:51.01 | Tekkub | yea |
| 19:51.17 | Thrae | So you pick one group out of the raid to decide for the raid (having a 40-man raid decide would take too long) |
| 19:51.46 | Tekkub | really that's the best solution... ask need or not, then give the whole group a vote to veto off needs... if you selected need you can't vote on that item |
| 19:52.05 | Tekkub | group/raid/whatever |
| 19:52.30 | Tekkub | but then, I hate DKP too, I think it's totally unfair |
| 19:52.47 | Thrae | Yeah, lemme post that on Suggestion to get it ignored ASAP. |
| 19:52.58 | Tekkub | discussion + random cannot be unfair to any specifi group IMCO |
| 19:53.22 | Tekkub | DKP is weighted towards those that have been around the most |
| 19:53.24 | Thrae | But I still like that they added DKP into the system though, even if I hate DKP. |
| 19:53.45 | Tekkub | I like the rep/token system myself |
| 19:53.51 | Thrae | Blizzard does try to be accomidating. |
| 19:53.55 | Tekkub | it's like built in DKP that's not guild-specific |
| 19:54.05 | Tekkub | you have to put in x amount of effort |
| 19:54.14 | Thrae | There are hardcore raiding guilds formed of basically good raiders but ultimately self-centered jerks. |
| 19:54.29 | Tekkub | yup |
| 19:54.35 | Thrae | OK, actually I'd say there are a LOT of self-centered jerks in MMO ;) |
| 19:54.39 | Tekkub | yup |
| 19:55.02 | Tekkub | "shrug" the whole system they use in ZG/AQ just makes more sense to me |
| 19:55.04 | Neronix | What I hate about DKP is these 2 examples: |
| 19:55.19 | Tekkub | you standardize the effort required to get items across the whole playerbase |
| 19:55.32 | Tekkub | someone can't join a guild and get a crapton of gear overnight |
| 19:55.36 | Neronix | 1) Item drops that only 1 person can use, but he can't afford it. Item gets d/ed, person is fucked |
| 19:55.42 | Tekkub | and a guild can't fuck someone out of DKP |
| 19:55.53 | Neronix | and I can't remember example 2 |
| 19:56.23 | Tekkub | item drops and someone that's been in the guild for ages blows all his DKP to get it and fucks everyone else over |
| 19:56.35 | Neronix | That's the one! |
| 19:56.47 | Thrae | Tekkub: Yeah, but going back and redoing the old dungeons would take a crapload of design, and people that -like- DKP would get stiffed. |
| 19:56.55 | Tekkub | seriously the "more effort" argument with DKP is bullshit |
| 19:57.07 | Tekkub | if you're at more raids you have more chances to roll |
| 19:57.17 | Tekkub | that == more probability of getting an item you want |
| 19:57.36 | Thrae | The time spent redesigning old dungeons like ZG/AQ could be spent to just make new dungeons like ZG/AQ |
| 19:57.48 | Thrae | Which was probably their mentality |
| 19:57.56 | Tekkub | the only people I know of that "like" DKP like it cause they have a ton and therefore get preference of chosing the items they want |
| 19:58.33 | Tekkub | yea but they need ta make new dungeons on the level of MC, as it stands they're just piling content on top |
| 19:58.51 | Tekkub | by the time people get thru MC/BWL they're engrained in the DKP system |
| 19:59.08 | Thrae | Maybe they're waiting for the Expansion to do that, to entice people to buy it. |
| 19:59.09 | Neronix | There needs to be more early-endgame dungeons |
| 19:59.33 | Tekkub | true. the expansion will kinda force everyone raiding to "start over" at 70 raids |
| 19:59.35 | Thrae | I don't think I've heard that the Expansion will ONLY be end-game content, I bet it adds a good bit of content all around like normal MMO expansions. |
| 19:59.42 | Neronix | we need another 10man instance that PUGs can do in a night, like UBRS, or even a 15man like that |
| 20:00.00 | Tekkub | I think 10-man is a good goal really |
| 20:00.14 | Tekkub | I like the 20-man runs a lot more than the 40's myself |
| 20:00.30 | Neronix | as long as PUGs get love, I'm happy |
| 20:00.35 | Tekkub | the more people you pile in the more it becomes a game of "follow the leader" |
| 20:00.43 | Neronix | because I dunno if I can get the time to be committed to a guild raiding schedule |
| 20:00.46 | Thrae | 40-man is fun every now and then though, the whole massiveness of it all. |
| 20:00.49 | Neronix | where if you miss one raid, you get eaten |
| 20:00.50 | Tekkub | there's no though or effort it's just "follow him and do what he says" |
| 20:00.57 | Thrae | But 20-man and 10-man are definately more exciting and personal. |
| 20:01.53 | Tekkub | anywho, I need to work on my mods goddamnit |
| 20:05.05 | Neronix | Question! You have a global called pie, and you do local foo = pie. Is there still only one copy in memory, even though they're in different environments? |
| 20:05.16 | Industrial | why doesnt the nurfed website have any shots |
| 20:05.20 | Industrial | wanna see how it looks |
| 20:08.19 | Tekkub | Nore, depends on the variable type, but yea basically |
| 20:08.25 | Tekkub | *Nero |
| 20:08.49 | Neronix | I see, thanks |
| 20:09.47 | Neronix | and if I do ATable = { LOADS OF STUFF } and then ATable = {}, would LOADS OF STUFF still remain as garbage? |
| 20:10.02 | Industrial | what is 'the five second rule' ? |
| 20:10.28 | Neronix | Industrial: You cast something, and can't regen mana for 5 seconds after casting |
| 20:10.33 | Industrial | oh k |
| 20:10.59 | Tekkub | yes nero |
| 20:11.21 | Tekkub | Id: you do regen, but at a reduced rate |
| 20:11.38 | Neronix | with talents |
| 20:11.43 | Neronix | or gear |
| 20:11.49 | Tekkub | or Spirit |
| 20:11.50 | Neronix | otherwise, it's no regen at all |
| 20:12.07 | Thrae | Tekkub: Now that I think about it, what we were talking about could be implemented in Lua over a chat channel. Anyone who knows Lua could easily fool it, but there aren't THAT many people who do. |
| 20:12.18 | Neronix | Since when could you regen during 5sec without m/5sec, talents or other gear stuff? |
| 20:12.19 | Tekkub | hrm? |
| 20:12.25 | Tekkub | oh the voting |
| 20:12.41 | Tekkub | yea but you'd still have to use ML which can be buggy it seems |
| 20:13.00 | Thrae | Yeah. And making a mod of it would provide a working example for Blizzard. If enough guilds adopt it, then they'd be more prone to add it in. |
| 20:13.06 | Tekkub | I mean, the whole idea is to make sure the "right" person gets the item |
| 20:13.20 | Tekkub | *shrug* |
| 20:13.36 | Thrae | Well, the idea would be to override the existing Master Looter frames so the Master Looter can't do his job unless the designated "Master Looter Group" confirms. |
| 20:13.53 | Thrae | Of course, it would be trivial for someone like you or I to override the override, but we're not typical ;) |
| 20:26.31 | Thrae | Can you use getglobal to get a local variable defined as local to your file? |
| 20:26.50 | Industrial | Thrae: How about encrypting the lua :D |
| 20:27.23 | Thrae | Industrial: Someone'd eventually crack it if people started using it ;) |
| 20:27.32 | Industrial | no, use two way |
| 20:28.00 | Thrae | How so? |
| 20:28.05 | Industrial | make people decide on the key |
| 20:28.17 | Industrial | hm, no.. hard |
| 20:28.31 | Industrial | its always cheatable |
| 20:28.34 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:28.47 | Thrae | Well, we're still left with sending this information over a chat channel, and encrypted or not, you could make a function which sends false information. |
| 20:29.11 | Thrae | Yeah, but having it is still better then not having it, with the current Master Looter scheme. |
| 20:29.27 | Thrae | Using the addon, that is. |
| 20:29.47 | Thrae | Until/if Blizzard adopts it, you'd just have to use the same discretion that you always do. |
| 20:29.50 | Industrial | Why not let everyone in the raid |
| 20:29.55 | Industrial | sends its data to the master looter |
| 20:30.10 | Thrae | Send what data? |
| 20:30.15 | Industrial | equipment |
| 20:30.23 | Industrial | easy to figure out who needs it most then |
| 20:30.36 | Thrae | Well, that's not the purpose of the addon though. |
| 20:30.44 | Industrial | (I have no idea how guids choose who gets what, seems fair to me that the person with least gets it) |
| 20:30.47 | Thrae | But yeah, you could add that in. |
| 20:31.04 | Thrae | Industrial: It's usually either that or DKP. |
| 20:31.09 | Industrial | DKP? |
| 20:31.41 | Neronix | Bah, there goes my plans to put my addon's stuff in one huge local rather than one huge global |
| 20:31.55 | Industrial | Neronix: pastebin |
| 20:31.58 | Neronix | putting aceaddon:new in a local makes things slightly messy |
| 20:32.15 | Industrial | no heh you wouldnt want that |
| 20:32.23 | Thrae | Every raid, participants earn DK Points within their guild, which they can redeem for items. |
| 20:32.37 | Thrae | Neronix: Why WOULD you want that? |
| 20:32.45 | Industrial | but what if lots of items drop.. |
| 20:32.53 | Neronix | because indexing a local's a lot faster than indexing a global? |
| 20:32.59 | Industrial | and noone has points |
| 20:33.16 | Thrae | Neronix: Think about if you wanted to split the addon into separate files... |
| 20:33.29 | Neronix | that was another thing that stopped me :P |
| 20:33.31 | Amadeo_ | DKP sucks |
| 20:33.35 | Thrae | Industrial: DKP isn't an automatic thing, it's still ultimately up to the ML currently |
| 20:33.55 | Amadeo_ | DKP only benefits those who have all the time in the world to raid |
| 20:34.06 | Tekkub | exactly |
| 20:34.09 | Industrial | yeah that came to mind instantly |
| 20:34.14 | Thrae | Neronix: Global or Local, it's a hash table, and hashing into a Lua hash table takes a trivial amount of time. |
| 20:34.23 | Tekkub | and random rolls are just as fair to them, the more they raid the more rolls they have |
| 20:34.40 | Tekkub | BUT random is more fair to other players as well |
| 20:34.45 | Industrial | person with least gets it |
| 20:34.58 | Tekkub | then noone would raid id |
| 20:35.08 | Tekkub | why raid if you're not going to get an item |
| 20:35.16 | Amadeo_ | I think that if someone is going to spend 6 hours in an instance, even if it's their first time, they should hvae the opportunity to get an item that drops |
| 20:35.17 | Tekkub | people raid to gain DKP |
| 20:35.26 | Thrae | Tekkub: Is there getlocal() as well as getglobal() ? |
| 20:35.26 | Tekkub | so when an item DOES drop they can win it |
| 20:35.33 | Amadeo_ | Right |
| 20:35.34 | Tekkub | no clue thrae |
| 20:35.39 | Amadeo_ | and some people save their DKP |
| 20:35.40 | Tekkub | ask clad or kergoff |
| 20:35.47 | Industrial | or #lua |
| 20:35.56 | Amadeo_ | so if you want an item, but there's another guildie who's been raiding for a year wants it too, you don't get it, ever |
| 20:36.56 | Amadeo_ | I liked how we did it in EQ |
| 20:37.14 | Amadeo_ | you rolled to win, and if you won an item, you got nothing else |
| 20:37.28 | Amadeo_ | does DKP have a one-item limit? |
| 20:37.44 | Tekkub | some guilds |
| 20:37.47 | Amadeo_ | or if I had a ton of DKP, could I basically take everything in the instance? |
| 20:37.49 | Amadeo_ | haha |
| 20:38.01 | Tekkub | DKP is a generic useless name for "you get points as you raid and spend them on items |
| 20:38.08 | Amadeo_ | yeah |
| 20:38.17 | Tekkub | Zandalar rep + tokens == in-game DKP |
| 20:40.12 | Thrae | Hmm, does "self" point to anything outside a function or method? |
| 20:41.16 | Thrae | IE, does Lua recognize the concept of "self" locally to a file as well? |
| 20:41.25 | CIA-17 | 03neronix * r2162 10NanoStats/NanoStats.lua: NanoStats - Put the tablet parent frame in the NanoStats table rather than in its own global |
| 20:42.26 | ckknight | hrm, I should make tablet work without a parent frame |
| 20:42.32 | ckknight | or a string id instead |
| 20:45.13 | Industrial | http://tinyurl.com/gt84t |
| 20:45.45 | ckknight | Thrae, no |
| 20:45.49 | ckknight | you could make a self, though |
| 20:45.52 | ckknight | local self = {} |
| 20:45.53 | ckknight | tada |
| 20:45.59 | Industrial | Again, I have no raiding experience - but this seems ok to me. Any reactions? |
| 20:46.07 | Thrae | ckknight: That's exactly what I'm doing right now ;) |
| 20:46.18 | Thrae | local Local = {} |
| 20:46.53 | Thrae | I did find out that Lua has debug.setlocal and debug.getlocal, but I also found out that Lua always treats locals as references within an *integer* table. |
| 20:47.14 | Thrae | So the hashing I was hoping for isn't possible as Lua implements it. Oh well! |
| 20:47.18 | Industrial | what if you do a=aceaddon:new() local b=a, and then use b in all calls :P |
| 20:47.38 | Industrial | Thrae, Amadeo_, Tekkub, ckknight; any commentson what I pastebinned? |
| 20:47.56 | Thrae | Oh, I didn't realize that was a pastebin |
| 20:47.59 | ckknight | Thrae, I do local private = {} or whatever |
| 20:48.13 | Thrae | Pastebin URLs are already tiny, you don't need to tinyurl them too ;) |
| 20:48.46 | ckknight | Industrial, rolls are server-side, thus safe |
| 20:48.47 | Thrae | ckknight: I like local Local = {} because that keeps within the OOD of Lua, you're getting into C++/Java OOD there ;) |
| 20:49.12 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:49.30 | Thrae | I try to be nice to the people that read my code. |
| 20:50.16 | Neronix | Bah, wasted too much time trying to optimise NS, when it probably can't be optimised |
| 20:50.30 | Neronix | now my adversary already has 2x 5 star votes >.> |
| 20:51.31 | ckknight | woot, found a job |
| 20:51.33 | Thrae | Neronix: Did you ever fix healing? I haven't been in a group recently. |
| 20:51.55 | Neronix | Thrae: What was up? |
| 20:51.58 | ckknight | Thrae, I like that idea |
| 20:52.00 | ckknight | a lot. |
| 20:52.01 | Neronix | And when was it broke? |
| 20:52.12 | ckknight | the inspection process would be the safest |
| 20:52.16 | Thrae | I seem to recall NanoStats I used about 4 days ago wasn't tracking healing at ALL, but I only use AceHeal to heal. |
| 20:52.18 | ckknight | but it could be hacked |
| 20:52.23 | ckknight | if someone undressed |
| 20:52.32 | ckknight | or brought a shitty set of armor with em, then switched |
| 20:52.52 | Thrae | ckknight: Which? "Safer Master Looter"? |
| 20:52.54 | Industrial | ckknight: job? |
| 20:52.58 | Neronix | Thrae: Were you changing options during that session? |
| 20:53.22 | ckknight | Industrial, yea, some guy I know needs a web designer |
| 20:53.24 | Thrae | Neronix: Yeah, I enabled the Healing tracking during that session. |
| 20:53.32 | Neronix | Bingo! |
| 20:53.35 | Thrae | It was my first time using NanoStats actually. |
| 20:53.43 | ckknight | Thrae, crap, wrong person |
| 20:53.45 | Neronix | I forgot to add a call to my event registrar to my option handlers |
| 20:53.54 | Thrae | Ah, fixed in later versions? |
| 20:53.54 | Industrial | ckknight: yay |
| 20:53.55 | Neronix | That's fixed now |
| 20:53.56 | ckknight | Industrial, refer to everything I said to Thrae, mixed you two up |
| 20:54.00 | Thrae | OK, cool |
| 20:54.38 | Thrae | Does anyone here do testing on the French client? |
| 20:56.09 | Industrial | french? whats that |
| 20:56.15 | Industrial | ckknight: but you could keep the data |
| 20:56.29 | ckknight | keep what data? |
| 20:56.33 | ckknight | of the inspects? |
| 20:56.36 | Industrial | yea |
| 20:56.47 | Industrial | you could even do that when the person joins the guild |
| 20:56.53 | Industrial | and compare |
| 20:56.56 | ckknight | hrm |
| 20:56.58 | CIA-17 | 03neronix * r2163 10NanoStats/ (Changelog.txt NanoStats.toc NanoStatsLocals.lua): NanoStats - Upadted metadata for 1.3 release |
| 20:57.00 | Industrial | hes a liar otherwise |
| 20:57.01 | Industrial | :D |
| 20:57.06 | Industrial | KICK |
| 20:57.08 | Industrial | next |
| 20:57.33 | Thrae | I'm trying to figure out why a French user claims SendChatMessage(msg,"EMOTE") is being sent to "SAY" instead. |
| 20:58.03 | Industrial | make him do /script ? |
| 20:58.04 | Industrial | :P |
| 20:58.33 | Thrae | Yeah, actually that's what I'm going to tell him to do since I can't figure it out ;) Also do /vw reset. |
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| 21:09.08 | maia | anyone here who successfully localized an addon? I'm stuck with a very basic problem. |
| 21:09.55 | Elkano | go ahead |
| 21:10.00 | maia | for some reason the non-english clients simply don't read the locals they should use |
| 21:10.17 | maia | I have a locals.lua file and a locals_frFR.lua. both are in the .toc. |
| 21:10.33 | maia | the locals_frFR.lua at the end |
| 21:10.34 | MoonWolf | pastebin the code for the frFR one. |
| 21:10.52 | maia | it's only 3 lines |
| 21:11.10 | maia | function Squishy_Locals_frFR() SquishyLocals.Hello = "Salut Firiel" end |
| 21:11.13 | MoonWolf | how should i have known that... |
| 21:11.35 | MoonWolf | hmmmm |
| 21:11.36 | maia | and my locals.lua has if( not ace:LoadTranslation("Squishy") ) then SquishyLocals.Hello = "Hello Firiel" end |
| 21:11.59 | maia | now Firiel, who is using the french client, reports that his client is using the english local, not the french one. |
| 21:12.16 | MoonWolf | but the code looks sound. |
| 21:12.35 | maia | hmm. |
| 21:12.44 | Amadeo_ | How's it coming, Neronix? |
| 21:13.21 | maia | if I'd know how ace:LoadTranslation() works exactly. I guess for some reason it doesn't know there is a french localization at all. |
| 21:14.00 | MoonWolf | bypass the ace translation system then |
| 21:14.03 | ckknight | when do you declare it? |
| 21:14.31 | ckknight | maia, FuBar is localized to French and German |
| 21:15.18 | maia | do I need to declare it somewhere? |
| 21:15.35 | Amadeo_ | this is pretty nice |
| 21:15.36 | Amadeo_ | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info4835-HealSync.html |
| 21:16.17 | maia | ckknight: so I'm missing something like "hey ace, Squishy has a french translation - go check it out"? |
| 21:16.47 | ckknight | I don't get the question |
| 21:18.00 | maia | I don't get what I'm missing |
| 21:18.29 | ckknight | wrong order? |
| 21:18.37 | ckknight | declare the french function before the English |
| 21:18.43 | maia | oh. |
| 21:19.44 | maia | hm. but then I'd have to do a SquishyLocals = {} in all locals_xxXX.lua if that file is being read first, right? |
| 21:25.31 | maia | okay, so does ace:LoadTranslation("Squishy") execute the function Squishy_Locals_frFR() on french clients? Is that how it works? |
| 21:27.49 | CIA-17 | 03maia * r2164 10Squishy/Squishy.toc: Squishy: next localization attempt |
| 21:29.38 | MoonWolf | Out of the wine, out of the chalace of agony. Welcome to avantasia </bad singing> |
| 21:30.20 | MoonWolf | thats abetter. |
| 21:32.34 | Amadeo_ | this is my PvP-Healing Priest spec - http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?dxMGsAVoof0tIc |
| 21:32.35 | Amadeo_ | someone rate it! |
| 21:33.47 | MoonWolf | healing/ buffing priest ? |
| 21:33.55 | MoonWolf | in pvp |
| 21:33.57 | MoonWolf | thats a new one. |
| 21:34.39 | MoonWolf | looks good, but i never played a priest beyond lvl 8 |
| 21:34.44 | steino | imp inner focus, matyrdom, healing focus and power infusion.. should be good :) |
| 21:35.08 | haste | playing: The Kovenant - Mirror's Paradise (5:01) |
| 21:47.42 | Shyva | Amadeo_ I've that as a pve spec =) |
| 21:47.59 | Shyva | *nearly the same |
| 21:48.02 | Neronix | Ooo... ClearFont's now monospace |
| 21:48.23 | Neronix | will make haxoring about in luaslinger more pleasant |
| 21:48.48 | haste | ClearFont is fugly :< |
| 21:48.53 | haste | so... fat :o |
| 21:49.12 | MoonWolf | I like clearfont. |
| 21:49.30 | haste | BitStream Vera Serif ! |
| 21:50.21 | Neronix | BSV serif is fugly like Mr Bean |
| 21:50.28 | Neronix | BSV sans wins |
| 21:50.32 | haste | noes! |
| 21:51.01 | Neronix | ayes |
| 21:51.38 | Amadeo_ | :D |
| 21:51.39 | Amadeo_ | yeah |
| 21:51.40 | Neronix | the font in CF itself is calibri I think |
| 21:51.42 | Amadeo_ | I've been a Shadow Priest |
| 21:51.45 | Amadeo_ | but I like healing now |
| 21:51.58 | Shyva | :-) |
| 21:51.59 | Neronix | the code's still useful though, if you don't like calibri :P |
| 21:52.18 | haste | I actually ise fontabolous |
| 21:52.23 | Industrial | me2 |
| 21:52.24 | haste | since it has the scale option |
| 21:52.28 | haste | but I HATE the GUI |
| 21:52.33 | haste | it's _SO_ fugly |
| 21:52.36 | Industrial | yea |
| 21:52.39 | haste | I almost cry when I see it |
| 21:52.48 | Neronix | Does fontabulous load ALL of the fonts it uses at the same time? |
| 21:53.01 | Industrial | is this good/bad? http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?bxMrsVZZxGMdMxRt |
| 21:53.26 | Industrial | i only have a 20 priest, need a roadmap :P |
| 21:53.43 | Neronix | CF also uses Lucidia Sans Demibold Roman (WTF?) |
| 21:53.48 | Mikma | well.. |
| 21:53.51 | haste | Industrial: Faces will melt! |
| 21:53.52 | Mikma | i'll paste mine |
| 21:54.02 | Industrial | haste: ? :p |
| 21:54.04 | Neronix | I melt faces as a warlock :P |
| 21:54.09 | steino | Industrial: i'd skip imp vamp embrace :o |
| 21:54.16 | steino | and shadow reach |
| 21:54.21 | Neronix | I got some damage gear and I walked all over SM yesterday |
| 21:54.34 | steino | full out imp mind blast and silence instead |
| 21:54.36 | Neronix | and I'm just affliction specced :P |
| 21:54.45 | haste | Industrial: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-priest&t=296239&p=1&tmp=1#post296239 |
| 21:55.02 | Neronix | and wowhead doesn't work with Opera :( |
| 21:55.02 | Industrial | steino: righto |
| 21:55.09 | Mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?rxMGoZZVMgtctRt |
| 21:55.33 | steino | silence is sooo sweet :) |
| 21:55.57 | Industrial | haste: hahah |
| 21:56.01 | Industrial | haste: nice lol |
| 21:56.11 | haste | Industrial: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?fn=wow-priest << see how long it is? |
| 21:56.59 | Industrial | hilarious:D |
| 21:57.25 | steino | its the best post in the history of wow forums |
| 21:57.26 | steino | im sure |
| 21:57.31 | Amadeo_ | Industrial: Looks good for leveling up |
| 21:57.33 | Amadeo_ | brb |
| 21:59.09 | Neronix | And I'll slash faces in pve as a fury warrior :P |
| 21:59.33 | Industrial | question about this vampiric embrace thingy |
| 21:59.39 | Neronix | It owns |
| 21:59.43 | Industrial | cant you be shadowpriest in pve? |
| 21:59.47 | Industrial | i mean.. |
| 21:59.50 | Industrial | 20% .. |
| 21:59.51 | steino | ofc you can |
| 22:00.02 | Neronix | I grouped often with a shadow priest who uses ONLY VE and the odd renew or 2 to heal a sub-par group for SM cathedral |
| 22:00.23 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 22:00.25 | Neronix | for best results, bring a warlock with said group :P |
| 22:00.27 | steino | i did a ZF run with 3 shadow priests, a warrior and a hunter |
| 22:00.37 | steino | 3x VE |
| 22:00.38 | steino | :P |
| 22:01.02 | Industrial | makes me wanna play priest even more :o |
| 22:01.26 | steino | the bad thing with VE is that you cant outheal burstdamage :| |
| 22:01.56 | Industrial | burstdamage? |
| 22:01.59 | steino | yes |
| 22:02.12 | steino | a boss for example hits tank normally, then a special |
| 22:02.20 | steino | like mortal strike |
| 22:02.32 | steino | right after each other |
| 22:02.35 | Industrial | ah |
| 22:02.36 | Industrial | k |
| 22:02.50 | steino | and the tank suddenly takes alot of damage over a short amout of time :) |
| 22:03.03 | steino | argh.. |
| 22:03.07 | steino | wtb good english |
| 22:03.07 | steino | :P |
| 22:03.10 | Amadeo_ | I personally love Vampiric Embrace |
| 22:03.23 | Amadeo_ | It's not used for healing, it's just supplimental |
| 22:03.47 | Amadeo_ | I think of it as Improved Renew for the Shadow Priest |
| 22:03.58 | steino | VE is great in group pvp :I |
| 22:04.01 | steino | imo |
| 22:04.14 | steino | but id never take improved VE over silence :) |
| 22:04.25 | steino | or imp mind blast |
| 22:04.31 | Amadeo_ | no, you need silence |
| 22:04.50 | kergoth`zzz | VE is awesome, i love it when a 50 priest runs lowbies through an instance, keeping everyone healed just with it :) |
| 22:04.54 | Industrial | hmm |
| 22:05.16 | Industrial | doesnt warlock also spam shadow damage like mad? |
| 22:05.19 | kergoth`zzz | Industrial, i finally unmapped the arrows in normal mode... its a tough habit to break though |
| 22:05.29 | Industrial | kergoth`zzz: yeah very hard |
| 22:05.31 | kergoth`zzz | Industrial, keep htiting the arrows and thinking the machine is lagging due to it not moving :) |
| 22:05.36 | Industrial | haha |
| 22:05.40 | Industrial | doesnt warlock also spam shadow damage like mad? |
| 22:05.46 | kergoth | ctrl-u and ctrl-d are awesome, no longer using pageup and pagedown :) |
| 22:05.46 | Industrial | so warlock+VE = win? |
| 22:05.48 | steino | yes |
| 22:05.57 | steino | but VE is only your shadow damage |
| 22:05.58 | steino | from spells |
| 22:06.03 | Industrial | ah k |
| 22:06.09 | steino | so for example a shadow wand wouldnt work |
| 22:06.20 | steino | but you can stack VE from other shadow priests |
| 22:09.26 | Amadeo_ | This might be good to level up with |
| 22:09.27 | Amadeo_ | http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?bxMGRZZxMGtctRt |
| 22:09.45 | Amadeo_ | My Priest is old school though, I haven't touched talents for over a year...and they've changed on me :P |
| 22:10.22 | Amadeo_ | actually |
| 22:10.34 | Amadeo_ | you could take the 2 points and put them into shadow focus instead of mediation |
| 22:10.39 | Amadeo_ | that would be better probably |
| 22:10.46 | Amadeo_ | since Shadow Priests have crappy spirit until end game |
| 22:11.00 | Amadeo_ | er, 2 points from Meditation |
| 22:11.00 | steino | ye |
| 22:11.13 | Amadeo_ | http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?rxMGoZZxMgtctRt |
| 22:11.15 | Amadeo_ | that :P |
| 22:11.25 | Amadeo_ | I love how everyone can get Inner Focus now |
| 22:11.38 | steino | inner focus is win :) |
| 22:11.58 | steino | inner focus devo plague is nice ^^ |
| 22:12.02 | steino | if you play UD that is |
| 22:12.30 | Industrial | thanks guys |
| 22:12.36 | Industrial | no im ne :< |
| 22:12.41 | steino | omg! |
| 22:12.50 | steino | they have that starfire thingy? |
| 22:12.55 | Industrial | yea :< |
| 22:12.56 | steino | haha |
| 22:13.00 | steino | must suck :p |
| 22:13.04 | Industrial | it does |
| 22:13.05 | haste | time to sleep! |
| 22:13.06 | haste | gn |
| 22:13.08 | steino | agreed! |
| 22:13.12 | steino | neeed sleep |
| 22:13.13 | Industrial | me too! |
| 22:13.43 | Industrial | arse how do I turn on hibernate again |
| 22:13.47 | Industrial | new windows install |
| 22:13.59 | Amadeo_ | I wonder what Blood Elves will get |
| 22:14.46 | Industrial | so the best priest is ud? |
| 22:15.01 | steino | pvp is ud |
| 22:15.04 | steino | pve is dwarf |
| 22:15.07 | steino | imo :) |
| 22:15.21 | Amadeo_ | I think it's a toss up for UD and Dwarf for PvP also |
| 22:15.35 | Amadeo_ | Dwarf has Desperate Prayer too, which is nice since it scales with healing gear |
| 22:15.40 | steino | hmm true |
| 22:15.48 | steino | fear immunity in pvp is great too |
| 22:15.48 | Industrial | whats that |
| 22:15.52 | steino | damn those dwarfs |
| 22:16.01 | Amadeo_ | Industrial: Instant heal |
| 22:16.04 | Industrial | k |
| 22:16.06 | Amadeo_ | on my PTR Priest it heals for about 1800 |
| 22:16.14 | Amadeo_ | brb |
| 22:16.25 | steino | it only works on self doesnt it ? |
| 22:18.30 | Industrial | <-- nn |
| 22:18.34 | steino | same :S |
| 22:22.22 | Kaelten | http://www.kaelcycle.net/ |
| 22:22.28 | Kaelten | does that look better? |
| 22:22.47 | hyperChipmunk | snazzy |
| 22:23.09 | hyperChipmunk | but I don't know what it's supposed to look better THAN, so I can't answer |
| 22:23.13 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 22:23.23 | Kaelten | I had a really ugly one up there earlier |
| 22:23.39 | hyperChipmunk | oh, well if it was really ugly, then yes, it looks better |
| 22:23.44 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 22:29.33 | Tekkub | ckk, http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=54&a=viewbug&bugid=1250 |
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| 22:31.07 | Kaelten | tekkub does that look better? |
| 22:31.14 | Tekkub | oreo? |
| 22:31.22 | Kaelten | www.kaelcycle.net |
| 22:31.32 | Tekkub | I told you not to ask me :P |
| 22:31.38 | Tekkub | but yea I like it better |
| 22:31.47 | Kaelten | lol |
| 22:37.30 | gnorlish | MY EYES |
| 22:37.36 | gnorlish | THE GOGGLES, THEY DO NOTHING |
| 22:49.17 | Thrae | What's the Ace event for variables loaded? |
| 22:49.24 | Thrae | ACE_VARIABLES_LOADED ? |
| 22:53.04 | ckknight | ace event? |
| 22:53.20 | Thrae | Well, just making sure it's safe to use VARIABLES_LOADED. |
| 22:54.26 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:54.28 | ckknight | it is |
| 22:54.32 | ckknight | but unnecessary |
| 22:54.38 | ckknight | what's wrong with Initialize? |
| 22:54.58 | Thrae | Oh yeah, that's what Initialize does. |
| 22:56.34 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r2165 10ItemizedDeductions/ (7 files): |
| 22:56.34 | CIA-17 | ItemizedDeductions |
| 22:56.34 | CIA-17 | - All menus items should work now |
| 22:56.34 | CIA-17 | - Added some menus, disabled others, added menu icons |
| 22:56.34 | CIA-17 | - More code improvements and restructuring |
| 22:57.31 | Tekkub | hey ckk |
| 22:57.47 | Tekkub | you had a python script that converted the SVN changelog didn't you? |
| 22:58.05 | Tekkub | to something easier on the eyes.. |
| 22:58.50 | Amadeo_ | Kaelten: MUCH better |
| 22:58.50 | Amadeo_ | hahaha |
| 22:59.13 | kergoth | working on ID? yay |
| 22:59.30 | Tekkub | yea, got a bit more cleaning done |
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| 23:05.39 | cladhaire | kergoth: Have any chance to look at the shell I sent you? |
| 23:06.15 | Amadeo_ | what's ID do? |
| 23:08.53 | Tekkub | sorts your bag crap be relative value |
| 23:09.02 | Tekkub | so you can drop cheap shit quickly |
| 23:09.19 | Tekkub | and also get a guesstimate of what your bag is worth if you sell off stuff |
| 23:09.51 | Amadeo_ | nice |
| 23:10.04 | Tekkub | hey ckk, idea for dewdrop |
| 23:10.31 | Tekkub | make the checkIcon thing use the same logic as FuBar does and trim off the borders of Blizzy icons so they look better |
| 23:13.35 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:13.39 | ckknight | will do |
| 23:17.28 | CIA-17 | 03ckknight * r2166 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - checks if checkbox icons are Blizzard icons, if so, chop off edges. |
| 23:17.35 | Tekkub | wewt! |
| 23:17.35 | ckknight | I didn't test |
| 23:17.36 | ckknight | but it should work |
| 23:17.44 | Tekkub | one sex |
| 23:18.52 | Tekkub | yup, looks nice |
| 23:33.30 | ckknight | alright |
| 23:42.36 | CIA-17 | 03tekkub * r2167 10ItemizedDeductions/ (7 files): |
| 23:42.36 | CIA-17 | ItemizedDeductions |
| 23:42.36 | CIA-17 | * Removed one Savedvar, note that your auction preferences will be deleted |
| 23:42.36 | CIA-17 | * Moved some more code around (I really am making progress tho!) |
| 23:44.13 | snurre | meh, can't update from SVN? |
| 23:47.45 | cladhaire | why not? |
| 23:48.47 | snurre | hm, perhaps it's because idChat is no longer in the trunk i guess |
| 23:49.01 | cladhaire | idchat is no longer on the svn |
| 23:49.05 | cladhaire | you have to go to ID'd website. |
| 23:49.18 | snurre | sounds plausible enough |
