00:04.12 | Mikma | account? blah |
00:06.47 | *** join/#wowace Stylpe (n=Stylpe@185.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
00:06.53 | snurre | wtf, my char window keeps jumping back and forth between the frame spots |
00:07.09 | Stylpe | Hey, I don't understand the reply MoonWolf made to this post: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1506.msg25336.html#msg25336 |
00:08.20 | Industrial | Stylpe: It means we like people who can rtfm |
00:08.43 | Mikma | well if he can make acegui work then he should get the others work too |
00:09.00 | Stylpe | No, the reply MW gave indicated the OP didn't know how to write a proper post |
00:09.18 | ckknight | crowbar? |
00:09.27 | netcurse | Yep. |
00:09.40 | snurre | QuestsFu.lua:673: attempt to concatenate field `description' (a nil value) |
00:09.41 | snurre | meh |
00:09.44 | Mikma | well he kinda didn't do proper post by asking something you're supposed to rtfm :P |
00:09.50 | ckknight | btw, I'm fixing some issues with Django already, netcurse ;-) |
00:09.53 | Stylpe | But his post was quite well formulated and polite |
00:09.53 | ckknight | hehe |
00:10.00 | Industrial | ckknight: django? :O |
00:10.06 | ckknight | Python web framework |
00:10.07 | Codayus | Stylpe: Was it? I didn't even understand it. :-/ |
00:10.08 | Industrial | i know |
00:10.09 | Industrial | :D |
00:10.13 | ckknight | very cool |
00:10.19 | ckknight | I added {% if 1 and 2 %} |
00:10.29 | ckknight | before just ors worked |
00:10.31 | ckknight | now ands work as well |
00:10.37 | netcurse | ckknight actually we ll set up the development platform tomorow |
00:10.37 | ckknight | I want the patch to go upstream, though |
00:10.38 | netcurse | for v3 |
00:10.39 | Industrial | how about not's |
00:10.40 | ckknight | I also added elseif |
00:10.40 | Industrial | :P |
00:10.44 | Stylpe | *puzzled* |
00:10.45 | ckknight | netcurse, woot. |
00:11.01 | Industrial | netcurse: you are using django with curse gaming? |
00:11.05 | ckknight | ;-) |
00:11.08 | Industrial | ckknight: and you are helping? |
00:11.09 | ckknight | I brainwashed em, Indie |
00:11.10 | netcurse | v3 will use it, probably |
00:11.13 | Industrial | yay! |
00:11.22 | ckknight | you offering to help? ;-) |
00:11.28 | Codayus | Django scales pretty well. Probably a good choice... |
00:11.46 | Codayus | Considering the amount of traffic patch days can throw up. <shudder> |
00:11.52 | ckknight | curse will wait until at least Django 1.0 before release, though, likely |
00:11.58 | Industrial | I dont have experience with django :p |
00:12.16 | ckknight | as I've said before, the best thing I see about Django is the separation of developers and programmers |
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00:13.40 | kergoth | s/developers/designers/? |
00:13.44 | ckknight | yea |
00:13.45 | ckknight | my bad |
00:13.47 | kergoth | :) |
00:13.50 | ckknight | designers and programmers |
00:13.52 | kergoth | that is nice indeed |
00:14.19 | ckknight | yea, same here |
00:14.27 | ckknight | mine are always hyperminimalistic |
00:14.37 | ckknight | which is nice for some people, but not all |
00:14.44 | ckknight | also, my font sizes are usually pretty big |
00:14.49 | ckknight | but I'm not changing that |
00:14.51 | hyperChipmunk | we hadn't noticed |
00:14.54 | ckknight | :-P |
00:15.24 | hyperChipmunk | on a 15 inch monitor, you have to scroll for every letter |
00:15.27 | hyperChipmunk | it's true |
00:15.36 | kergoth | hehe |
00:16.04 | ckknight | ... |
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00:16.40 | netcurse | we really need curse v3 auto resisable |
00:16.41 | cladhaire | hi tem |
00:16.53 | netcurse | for ppl with hight screen resolution :) |
00:16.55 | kergoth | i finally remembered some of my old todo list items, hurray |
00:16.56 | Tem | hey clad |
00:19.01 | kergoth | http://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/kergoth/341493/#section.tasks <-yay, stuff |
00:19.05 | kergoth | now to remember the others :\ |
00:37.43 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: whatever happened to the time-to-victory display in BatFu for AB? |
00:38.00 | hyperChipmunk | it got ignored when I got lazy |
00:38.13 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
00:38.20 | hyperChipmunk | I'm going to try to get it out tomorrow |
00:38.24 | hyperChipmunk | or tonight |
00:38.35 | hyperChipmunk | I was actually just cracking it open for a look |
00:41.02 | kergoth | ugh, i wanted to go out tonight, see x3 and such, but i only drank one mt dew today |
00:41.10 | kergoth | crazy caffeine withdrawl, about to fall asleep on the keyboard :P |
00:41.42 | Industrial | is mt dew like red bull? |
00:41.52 | Industrial | (we dont have that stuff here) |
00:42.19 | kergoth | nah its more of a soda rather than an energy drink, just has a fair bit of caffeine. more on par with jolt, if you have that there |
00:42.56 | Industrial | nope |
00:43.22 | Industrial | bull-it has 2-4 cups of coffee on caffine, and taurine.. whatever :P it just tasted great *cough* |
00:44.21 | Codayus | Mt Dew is a little bit more caffinated that Coke, and has a vaguely citrus taste. It's very much a normal soda, not an energy drink. |
00:44.50 | Industrial | k |
00:46.19 | Industrial | doodeedoo |
00:46.27 | Codayus | It's quite sweet. I used to drink a lot of it. |
00:46.32 | Codayus | Then I tried Vault. :-) |
00:49.57 | Industrial | Bull-it tastes like... i dunno.. candy.. |
00:50.15 | Industrial | lolypop :P |
01:19.22 | Tain | Blazing Saddles is on. This is the best movie. |
01:21.50 | snurre | gotta love raiding on PTRs |
01:21.56 | snurre | raid leaders are Roflmage and Omgrogue |
01:24.50 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
01:26.01 | Industrial | lol |
01:26.20 | snurre | <-- maintank, a.k.a. Captainaggro :p |
01:26.39 | snurre | im soo gonna get my warr renamed to that at next migration :p |
01:32.05 | Tem | I have a female gnome alt warrior named Maintank |
01:36.15 | cladhaire | Does anyone have a very simple FauxScrollFrame example? |
01:44.30 | ckknight | can't have Captain in your name |
01:44.39 | ckknight | violates naming policy |
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02:02.11 | snurre | ckknight: i know that.. i know that very well :p |
02:04.03 | snurre | LOL |
02:04.10 | snurre | died in naxxramas, respawned at crossroads |
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02:10.45 | Tekkub | fucking suckup kid |
02:11.03 | Tekkub | finds out I'm the one taking care of the pool... "oh I like your car! Do you race it?" |
02:11.06 | Tekkub | *eyeroll* |
02:11.22 | snurre | omg, speaking of suckups |
02:11.34 | snurre | one of the new guys starting at our office today |
02:12.24 | CIA-17 | 03lordrhys * r2141 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
02:12.36 | snurre | came up to me asking "are you that snurre? omgz Ive heard about you, played on your realm for a while and there was lots of talk about you".. i had to evacuate the room, was really creepy :( |
02:13.01 | Tekkub | stalker! |
02:13.26 | snurre | yeah, i fear so |
02:14.01 | snurre | not like he was the first one to know who i was and stuff, but it felt so damn creepy.. think he was the stalker-type |
02:14.44 | ckknight | step one: request blowjob |
02:14.47 | ckknight | step two: |
02:14.51 | ckknight | step three: profit! |
02:15.02 | snurre | no bj plx |
02:15.18 | snurre | unless it's a female |
02:15.46 | cladhaire | ckknight: I tend to offer blowjos.. I've found i make more money that way |
02:15.46 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
02:16.36 | ckknight | I know I've fucked and sucked my way to the top |
02:17.01 | snurre | that's just fine as long as you're female. Nobody's gonna hold that against you then.. if you're a male stalker, however... i doubt the reactions will be as positive |
02:17.10 | Tekkub | yea, "hey can I stick my thingie in you and you give me cash" rarely works unless you're like, horse-hung |
02:17.25 | cladhaire | snurre: I dont need to stalk |
02:17.31 | cladhaire | snurre: They come flocking =) |
02:17.38 | Tekkub | *eyeroll* |
02:17.45 | snurre | again, connected to the female part :p |
02:18.08 | Tain | I could use money. |
02:18.13 | snurre | yes, same |
02:18.22 | snurre | just finished my apartment, im almost broke :( |
02:19.02 | snurre | too bad game companies pay shit wages until you're in the top management |
02:19.47 | cladhaire | Tekkub: *vomit* |
02:20.19 | Tain | umm.. I thought it was spit or swallow, vomit isn't a good option. |
02:20.40 | Codayus | FYI - char copy page seems to be working just at the moment. |
02:21.10 | Tain | Holy crap |
02:21.13 | Tain | Thank you Codayus |
02:21.17 | Tain | I've been trying for days |
02:21.32 | Tekkub | I honestly don't get people that spit |
02:21.38 | snurre | omg, gogo! that's like a windows ME station that can run more than 1h without BSOD; once in a lifetime oppertunity! |
02:21.41 | Codayus | I've been trying ever hour or two while at my comp since the PTR went up... |
02:21.43 | Tekkub | they always use the excuse of taste.... |
02:22.02 | Tekkub | ya don't taste much when ya swallow... |
02:22.07 | Tekkub | but anywho... |
02:22.26 | cladhaire | Tekkub: Swallowing just makes you taste it twice |
02:22.30 | cladhaire | any girl worth her salt will tell you that. |
02:23.05 | Tekkub | *shrug* swallow == quick motion.. spit == hold on to it in your mouth for a while... |
02:23.07 | Tain | I don't have actual experience so I can't say, I just always thought spitting means you get the taste longer. |
02:23.18 | Tekkub | me to Tainy |
02:23.26 | Tekkub | kinda like snowballing.... |
02:23.34 | ckknight | I don't understand spitting either |
02:23.49 | Codayus | This is a pretty wierd conversation, really... |
02:23.52 | Tain | But I'm not about to argue that specific point. |
02:24.06 | Tain | Really if it gets there my concern with it has just passed. |
02:24.07 | snurre | weird? no. interesting? not really :p |
02:24.20 | snurre | speaking of interesting though, I need more beer |
02:24.31 | Codayus | That doesn't sound very interesting either... |
02:24.41 | Tain | I'm watching Numb3rs. I do like this show. |
02:25.09 | Tekkub | got a direct link to the char copy page? |
02:25.13 | Tekkub | I can't find it... :P |
02:25.18 | Tain | test.worldofwarcraft.com/us/copy/character-copy.html |
02:25.25 | Tekkub | domo |
02:25.28 | Tain | Bam. |
02:25.31 | Codayus | Tain: Copy work? |
02:25.44 | Tain | Worked for me! Well, didn't give me errors and appeared to complete the process. |
02:25.49 | Codayus | Yeah. |
02:25.50 | Tain | I hvaen't tried to actually log into ptr to see. |
02:26.02 | Codayus | A couple hours ago, the PTR didn't have a queue... |
02:26.13 | Tekkub | ah still only premades? I already copied one of thems |
02:26.13 | Codayus | Now that the copy page is temporarily working, it's 1200... |
02:26.19 | Codayus | Tekkub: Yes |
02:26.25 | snurre | test.worldofwarcraft.com/en/copy/character-copy.html \o/ |
02:26.28 | Codayus | I've been trying to get a premade for AGES... |
02:26.34 | Codayus | *mutter* |
02:26.49 | Codayus | I'd rather have my real priest though. :-) |
02:28.10 | snurre | yeh, wtb my warrior for PTR |
02:28.18 | snurre | sucks that only US chardb is used |
02:31.31 | Tekkub | OMFG! |
02:31.43 | Tekkub | the furries found Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends |
02:31.59 | Tekkub | I just found Eduardo pornzorz |
02:33.11 | cladhaire | http://www.xtube.com |
02:33.14 | cladhaire | NSFW =) |
02:35.46 | snurre | lol |
02:35.54 | snurre | clad saved my day! |
02:36.36 | cladhaire | ? |
02:38.04 | Tain | Free porn? |
02:38.55 | cladhaire | lots of free porn |
02:39.40 | Tain | I will look! I also like http://www.myfreepaysite.com - it is free and lots of porn! INcluding lots of live web cams. |
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02:49.18 | Tekkub | erf |
02:52.21 | Tain | unf |
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03:01.30 | Tain | Oh crap I have a sort of "blind" date with someone in uh.. 13 hours. |
03:03.22 | hyperChipmunk | gg |
03:04.57 | Industrial | nn |
03:05.09 | Tain | unf unf |
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03:22.05 | Codayus | Hmm, the premade priest (at least the alliance one) comes with a 31 disc/20 holy build. Heh |
03:22.20 | Codayus | That's a bit...random... |
03:30.41 | haste | cladhaire: I did warn you tho' ;) |
03:30.47 | haste | about the RSS |
03:30.51 | cladhaire | i know you did |
03:30.52 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
03:30.59 | Tekkub | http://www.beyondgrandpa.com/drtran/main.html |
03:31.03 | Tekkub | ~dr. tran |
03:31.05 | purl | Hickory smoked is so crazy what's wrong with you!? |
03:32.26 | cladhaire | i dont give a shit tho =) I have a password. |
03:33.01 | haste | haha :p |
03:33.11 | haste | does CIA-17 still work tho'? |
03:34.10 | cladhaire | yeah |
03:34.11 | cladhaire | of course |
03:34.26 | Tekkub | HOT DICKINGS! |
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03:34.54 | haste | yay, 'cause that's the RSS I'm using ;D |
03:35.21 | Tekkub | from a cup! |
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03:35.26 | Amadeo_ | hola |
03:35.37 | Amadeo_ | Industrial: the idChat addon for removing buttons doesn't work! |
03:38.48 | Tekkub | Why don't you leave me ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
03:38.57 | gnorlish | need my svn fix :( |
03:39.03 | gnorlish | i feel out of date to the extreme |
03:40.01 | Tekkub | http://media.putfile.com/Dr-Tran-in-Roybertitos |
03:42.56 | Tekkub | that was... creepy... |
03:43.05 | Tekkub | damn spanishians |
03:44.05 | Tekkub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJWPCpdpfdQ |
03:44.10 | Tekkub | OH noes! |
04:08.25 | cladhaire | night all |
04:08.27 | cladhaire | headed to bed |
04:08.45 | Tekkub | HOT!!!! |
04:08.48 | Tekkub | DICKINGS!!!! |
04:08.55 | Tekkub | bluh |
04:09.04 | Tekkub | I should go take a shower and go to bedh tew |
04:12.12 | CIA-17 | 03cladhaire * r2142 10/branches/Clique/ (6 files): Clique: My code does nothing.. but it will =) |
04:23.52 | hyperChipmunk | what, praytell, is Clique? |
04:37.19 | ckknight | click-casting |
04:37.23 | ckknight | and/or hot dickings |
04:41.37 | Tekkub | cilck-dicking? |
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04:53.24 | Codayus | hmmm |
05:06.38 | haste | "Error: An error occured." |
05:06.53 | haste | how to make debuging hard. |
05:21.21 | Codayus | I've seen worse error messages.... |
05:21.27 | Codayus | Error: Success |
05:21.30 | Codayus | That's always good... |
05:22.29 | haste | I'm found of: Error: no error |
05:51.15 | hyperChipmunk | I love Error:Success |
05:51.22 | hyperChipmunk | and you see that one a disturbing number of times |
05:52.18 | Thiana | Hmm, svn is still down? |
05:57.51 | hyperChipmunk | massmail portion of CT_MailMod, without localization strings: 1299 lines |
05:58.10 | hyperChipmunk | entirety of BulkMail: 680 |
05:59.50 | hyperChipmunk | and mine's readable =x |
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06:51.11 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, its the nature of errno. if anything gets called that touches it, in any way, shape, or form, between your error occurring and you outputting it, itll reset it back to success (assuming that subsequent call didnt fail as well) |
07:10.51 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/vim_002.png |
07:11.03 | kergoth | new file explorer, tree based, quite nice |
07:11.05 | kergoth | :) |
07:11.51 | kergoth | Industrial, <phrakture> i got an email the otherday that ended in "Thanks alot:wq" |
07:14.41 | hyperChipmunk | toh handy |
07:14.52 | hyperChipmunk | hahahah |
07:15.08 | hyperChipmunk | I've :wq'ed in here before |
07:15.10 | kergoth | hehe. me too |
07:15.19 | hyperChipmunk | did it just yesterday i think |
07:15.26 | kergoth | i hate it when i try to :wq to quit a firefox browser tab though :( |
07:16.19 | hyperChipmunk | oh, hm |
07:16.23 | hyperChipmunk | I've never :wq'ed |
07:16.31 | hyperChipmunk | but I've got two instances in my logs of me :q'ing =P |
07:16.42 | kergoth | hehe |
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07:40.29 | Malkuth | morning |
07:43.56 | Malkuth | don't suppose anyones awake to be able to answer a coding question ? |
07:44.21 | MoonWolf | im awake. |
07:46.06 | Malkuth | Ok, the mod im working on, if someone sends me a whisper with the right command, they get text back, what im trying to do, is hide that response from my screen so I dont get spammed (hell id prefer to hide it both coming in and out tbh) |
07:46.30 | MoonWolf | hmmm |
07:46.32 | Malkuth | but mainly out |
07:46.32 | MoonWolf | not a clue. |
07:47.41 | Malkuth | now I know how to do it one way which is you (think its called hooking) hook the chatframe_Onevent, and if it has your response you dont pass it on, least thats how it seems to work on some other mods |
07:48.12 | Gngsk | right |
07:48.35 | MoonWolf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvmt4H3Ikw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Evideosift%2Ecom%2F%3Fdomains%3Dwww%2Evideosift%2Ecom%26search%3Drobot%2Bchicken%26sa%3DSearch |
07:48.37 | Gngsk | I think you'd want to hook SendChatMessage() to keep it from showing up when you respond |
07:48.40 | MoonWolf | go for it then. |
07:49.03 | haste | haha :D |
07:49.08 | haste | Robot Chicken <3 |
07:49.46 | Malkuth | Pre_ChatFrame_OnEvent = ChatFrame_OnEvent; |
07:49.46 | Malkuth | ChatFrame_OnEvent = SOA_ELP_ChatFrame_OnEvent; |
07:50.08 | Malkuth | and if you want to send it though id use Pre_ChatFrame_OnEvent(event) |
07:50.18 | Malkuth | is how I did it in originally |
07:51.00 | Malkuth | hmm ill just have to try this variation in game and see if it tells me to die |
07:52.09 | Malkuth | is the ace way better for hooking in this example ? |
07:53.25 | Gngsk | best part about that robot chicken is the drummer boy dropping the sticks 3 times |
08:01.17 | Malkuth | ok, if I hook ChatFrame_OnEvent and I check in its function for the event CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM do I still need to register the event ? |
08:03.43 | Malkuth | again sorry about all the questions, and thanks for answering, saved me tearing my hair out |
08:05.42 | MoonWolf | one should never be sorry for asking sensible questions. |
08:08.54 | Malkuth | hehe now I just have to figure out if they are sensible or im missing something stupid :) |
08:09.50 | MoonWolf | sometimes people dont have your awnsers |
08:10.00 | MoonWolf | for instance, i have never used a single wow event in my life. |
08:17.35 | Malkuth | ok im not sure where I read it, but im sure I read someone saying if for example ive got an option table called sdsOpt in the lua file sdsLocals.lua that its better to do something like: |
08:17.56 | Malkuth | local sdsOptions = sdsOpt |
08:18.05 | Malkuth | and use sdsOptions in my code |
08:18.32 | Malkuth | true ? and if so anyone know why ? |
08:18.46 | MoonWolf | it can save a lot of hassle, as long as you make sure you actually save it back when you are done. |
08:20.40 | Malkuth | ok :) |
08:21.12 | Malkuth | any good place to read up on what a metatable is ? |
08:21.27 | MoonWolf | http://www.lua.org/pil |
08:21.43 | Malkuth | reading :) |
08:25.35 | kergoth | hooray, new version of the gnu D compiler gdc. now it supports the current D features, so i can actually use the language for an actual project instead of just toy code |
08:25.57 | MoonWolf | what will that project be ? |
08:26.18 | haste | *cough* svn -> zip with changelog *cough* |
08:26.29 | kergoth | well, i've been planning on doing a few fuse filesystems (filesystem in userspace) |
08:26.56 | kergoth | and it was gonna be fastest to do in python, but slow, or time consuming to do in C, but perform fast.. D is a perfect fit for it, fast and quick development time |
08:27.01 | kergoth | will be fun to see how it goes |
08:27.17 | MoonWolf | i look forward to seeing it in action. |
08:27.28 | kergoth | the first one is a reimplementation of the old umsdos filesystem |
08:27.55 | kergoth | the deal where you could do unix like permissions and such on a dos media. will be nice for usb storage cards, to have full perms in linux, but still interoperate with windows (naturally it doesnt see the extra stuff) |
08:28.05 | kergoth | umsdos is no longer maintained, unfortunately |
08:28.12 | MoonWolf | hmm |
08:28.18 | MoonWolf | would indeed be neat. |
08:28.34 | kergoth | i get tired of not being able to have symlinks and such on my usb stick, and i really dont want to have multiple partitions on it |
08:29.21 | kergoth | after that itll be a filesystem for leaftag (http://www.chipx86.com/blog/?p=140) |
08:29.24 | MoonWolf | talking about that, someone needs to implement a filesystem designed for memorry sticks cards and the like. |
08:29.30 | kergoth | http://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/kergoth/#section.tasks |
08:29.41 | kergoth | designed in what way? |
08:29.49 | MoonWolf | to make more efficient use of the amount of reads/writes they are limted too. |
08:29.53 | kergoth | there are already extremely nice filesystems designed to run off of flash, doing wear leveling and everything |
08:29.59 | kergoth | but you cant run those on flash cards like that |
08:30.04 | kergoth | those cards dont give you low level access |
08:30.13 | MoonWolf | oh |
08:30.17 | kergoth | they implement their own wear leveling in hardware, and just give you block level access on top of that |
08:30.28 | kergoth | and if you run one wear leveling scheme on top of another, you just wear it down faster instead of slower |
08:30.31 | MoonWolf | it yust feels silly formatting them as fat32 |
08:30.33 | kergoth | so we're stuck with vfat or ext2 |
08:30.49 | kergoth | if you're curious about such things, read up on jffs2 |
08:31.01 | kergoth | i know there's threads on the linux-mtd mailing list on the subject, it comes up periodically |
08:31.18 | kergoth | david woodhouse rants at people about why jffs2 on CF cards is a bad idea on occasion |
08:31.50 | MoonWolf | ah |
08:32.08 | MoonWolf | i figured it came with the whole embedded devices stuff. |
08:32.17 | MoonWolf | you need to have storage of some kind |
08:32.20 | MoonWolf | flash is small. |
08:32.25 | kergoth | its usually onboard flash or CF |
08:32.33 | kergoth | or both :) |
08:36.36 | kergoth | MoonWolf, what programming languages do you know? |
08:37.37 | Malkuth | talk about technology moving on, work just sent me a replacement board for the test unit I have here, its the equivilant of a pentium pc, 128mb ram, 400mb hd, and connector sockets its 1 1/2" by 3" big (no hd its actually eprom (sure thats what they said it was, memory sucks)) it looks absolutly empty in the case |
08:39.12 | kergoth | what device is that? |
08:39.28 | Malkuth | the company I work for makes time servers |
08:39.50 | kergoth | heh, one of my pdas has a 2 gig hd and a 450mhz xscale. its craziness |
08:40.01 | kergoth | cool |
08:40.15 | Malkuth | ultra thin rackmount case, and its mostly empty |
08:40.22 | Malkuth | because the board is so small |
08:40.26 | Malkuth | seems such a waste |
08:40.35 | kergoth | rackmount? you'd think they would go with itx or something for a board like that |
08:40.49 | Malkuth | we have smaller units |
08:41.00 | kergoth | ah. |
08:41.04 | Malkuth | but most of the buyers want units to go into their rack mounts |
08:41.15 | Malkuth | and think size is important |
08:41.16 | kergoth | what OS is on these? |
08:41.17 | Malkuth | hehe |
08:41.21 | Malkuth | unix |
08:42.00 | kergoth | "unix" doesnt say much. no such thing anymore. pick one :) |
08:42.09 | Malkuth | have to admit I dont deal with that side of it, so no idea :) |
08:42.17 | kergoth | ah. |
08:43.09 | kergoth | i've administered aix, hp/ux, digital unix, data general unix, sco openserver, sco unixware, sco xenix, solaris, linux, bsdi, openbsd... |
08:43.11 | Malkuth | must be small, because the upgrade file, flashs the setup in under 20 seconds and you have a fresh install |
08:43.47 | kergoth | probably linux. not much else is suitable, unless its qnx. but qnx wouldnt make much sense unless you have real time requirements |
08:43.53 | Malkuth | but think that has more to do with the fact, its just flashing an eprom, dont quite understand the setup |
08:44.03 | kergoth | it's more likely flash than eeprom |
08:44.08 | kergoth | but *shrug* |
08:44.16 | kergoth | embedded work is fun |
08:44.18 | Malkuth | your probably right :) |
08:44.48 | Malkuth | I just deal with the fun job of making in house analytical crap |
08:44.56 | kergoth | i got started by maintaining an alternative distro / flash image for the sharp zaurus pdas |
08:45.00 | kergoth | ah, fun |
08:45.03 | kergoth | heh |
08:45.49 | Malkuth | well It has some advantages, I work from home, work when i like |
08:46.11 | kergoth | thatd be nice. cube farms are the devil |
08:46.21 | Malkuth | and bitch occasionally so they send me some new hardware just for the sake of it :p |
08:47.25 | Malkuth | I only have 6 pcs at home, so I really dont have the need for a full functioning time server, same one that we sold to nasdaq |
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08:48.38 | Malkuth | wife likes it though, it syncs her pc hehe |
08:49.30 | Malkuth | thnkfully kergoth cube farms havent quite hit over here big time |
08:50.00 | Malkuth | and id prefer to keep it that way |
08:51.40 | kergoth | hee |
08:51.44 | kergoth | s/e$/he/ |
08:53.41 | Malkuth | ok ADDON_LOADED if I do a /console reloadui is that called ? |
08:54.16 | Malkuth | or is it called only when you first login (I assume its run on /console reloadui too) but just wanted to check |
08:55.51 | Malkuth | crap im going to have to compare times |
09:15.43 | Malkuth | hmm Ive seen self.opt.fieldname = 1 and self.opt["fieldname"] = 1 used in various codes am I missing something or is it just up to yo which one you want to use ? |
09:15.58 | kergoth | up to you, both are valid |
09:17.29 | Malkuth | I assume however if for eg your doing somethng like self.opt[arg2] when arg2 is the character name from chat, you cant do self.opt.arg2 |
09:17.32 | hyperChipmunk | and equivalent |
09:17.59 | kergoth | Malkuth, correct, because self.opt.arg2 isnt self.opt[arg2], its self.opt["arg2"] |
09:18.10 | Malkuth | as I thought thanks :) |
09:18.45 | hyperChipmunk | how come we don't get more Malkuths asking questions in here |
09:19.21 | hyperChipmunk | granted, he still needsa look at the topic |
09:19.30 | hyperChipmunk | but he's not asking stupid questions |
09:19.33 | Malkuth | Ive looked at the topic :) |
09:19.45 | Malkuth | but my memory sucks :p |
09:19.55 | Malkuth | and tbh my biggist problem |
09:19.58 | hyperChipmunk | nice thing about books |
09:20.02 | Malkuth | is the diferences in the language |
09:20.09 | Malkuth | between what I know and lua |
09:20.14 | Malkuth | its all so similiar but diferent |
09:20.26 | hyperChipmunk | what kinda addon you writing? |
09:20.28 | Malkuth | so I keep calling tables arrays |
09:20.45 | Malkuth | I long ago hacked a dkp bidding addon for my guild |
09:20.51 | hyperChipmunk | well, just call arrays tables and you're set |
09:21.02 | hyperChipmunk | oh that would be neat |
09:21.09 | hyperChipmunk | automated bidding |
09:21.35 | hyperChipmunk | nobody will ever complain it's biased |
09:21.37 | Malkuth | but im trying to tidy it up a lot, and put some of the bodge fixs I put in to my old code into the core of this one |
09:22.00 | hyperChipmunk | were you the one looking for the item-link in command-line dealy? |
09:22.22 | Malkuth | ie my guild we had a situation where the bid taker would have to leave midraid so we bodged a fix, so backer up bidtaker could transfer data accross |
09:22.24 | Malkuth | yes |
09:22.50 | hyperChipmunk | did my addon help you? it really just passes everything as a string, and item lists are just specially formatted strings |
09:22.56 | hyperChipmunk | s/lists/links/ |
09:23.26 | Malkuth | aye, im going to use that code |
09:23.26 | hyperChipmunk | so it's just a matter of taking what you need from the string |
09:24.00 | Malkuth | because the main change I want to do, is at the moment the DKP bidding mod we use, isint tied to the dkp updating code hehe |
09:24.33 | Malkuth | it just knows how much dkp the person has, lets them bid up to that, and if they win stores a local win value, so they cant bid up to full ammount |
09:24.36 | hyperChipmunk | someone's using my code! |
09:25.08 | haste | haha hC :p |
09:25.12 | Malkuth | hehe |
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09:26.14 | Malkuth | I should read the lua page more, I do appologise for that, im just glad theirs a place I can ask my questions because tbh it seems very sparse out their sometimes |
09:26.22 | hyperChipmunk | you don't understand...I am no longer merely a leecher |
09:26.26 | hyperChipmunk | this is a big step! |
09:26.35 | hyperChipmunk | i've contributed something to the community! |
09:26.48 | Malkuth | hyper, by defernition of making a mod others have used you have already done that |
09:26.58 | haste | damn, that was a motivation maker / mood improver hyperChipmunk |
09:27.00 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but my mods blow goats |
09:27.08 | haste | You have t o do this more often |
09:27.08 | Malkuth | hehe compared to what |
09:27.09 | hyperChipmunk | heck yea, dude I'm fired up |
09:27.27 | Neronix | BulkMail doesn't blow goats |
09:27.30 | Neronix | :P |
09:27.53 | Malkuth | only mod ive made so far that ive actually posted outside my guild is furbar_whispercast and im not even releasing that because its just embarssing hehe |
09:27.54 | hyperChipmunk | it's still got a ways to go |
09:27.55 | kergoth | damnit, i was gonna check auctions and go to bed, but got distracted by officer chat |
09:28.20 | kergoth | i've never released an addon. most of my code is generically useful tidbits that are independent of wow |
09:28.39 | hyperChipmunk | and Malkuth, to be honest, I'm happy to see your questions in here |
09:29.10 | hyperChipmunk | cuz they're not stupid ones and you've got the right attitude. I'll probably learn a lot from them |
09:29.26 | Neronix | omgwtf, people are actually d/ling NS now :O |
09:29.34 | hyperChipmunk | as opposed to the braincell-killing questions we're used to |
09:29.34 | haste | ~pat Neronix |
09:29.36 | purl | ACTION pats Neronix and says "Nicely Done!" |
09:29.45 | kergoth | just make sure you're at least willing to check the docs, or i may lose it |
09:29.46 | kergoth | :P |
09:29.46 | Neronix | And since FuBar's not changing at a crazy speed now, time to write NSFu |
09:29.56 | hyperChipmunk | alrighty, it's like 05:30 |
09:30.10 | hyperChipmunk | even though I'm all pumped up, gotta get some sleep |
09:30.13 | hyperChipmunk | night folks |
09:30.17 | kergoth | night |
09:30.19 | Malkuth | I always willing to check the docs :) |
09:30.25 | Neronix | night |
09:30.38 | Malkuth | if I missed it and its clearly their just say rtfm :p |
09:30.44 | kergoth | nothing annoys me more than someone who runs straight to irc without even /trying/ to find out |
09:31.26 | kergoth | heh, once my boss at ti told me i should have prospective employers google for kergoth to see all the open source projects and involvement. i decided against it due to the irc logs google pulls up of me berating some lazy noob who wouldnt rtfm |
09:31.27 | kergoth | :P |
09:31.27 | Malkuth | in my case I can honestly say, its usually I havent found it because Im using the wrong terminology |
09:31.54 | Malkuth | hehe |
09:32.13 | Malkuth | my boss employed me because I was lazy, well to be exact |
09:32.23 | kergoth | ~laziness |
09:32.24 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
09:32.38 | Malkuth | hehe exactly |
09:33.25 | kergoth | ~impatience |
09:33.27 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
09:33.34 | kergoth | ~hubris |
09:33.35 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
09:34.11 | Malkuth | my only claim to really lazy fame though, was I was so fed up as a senior guide in eq of setting up the forum topics each week because their system so sucked, so created a pprogram you could setup once, click go, and it would set up your servers guide forum for the week |
09:34.59 | Malkuth | then my gm handed it out to everyone and I ended up dealing with tech support questions on the damn thing :/ |
09:35.30 | Malkuth | to add new features etc |
09:35.54 | Malkuth | have to admit one thing I do like about most ace mods, is they do whats on the tin, and dont try to do everything else under the son |
09:35.58 | Malkuth | sun |
09:36.36 | Malkuth | (well mistake their, ace ~= efficient code, but you know what I mean) |
09:38.53 | Malkuth | damn, think im trying to be too clever here, and its going to be worse, *delete |
09:39.01 | kergoth | my laziness knows few bounds. i'm a scripting madman. |
09:39.15 | kergoth | some of my sed scripts frighten even me |
09:39.16 | kergoth | hehe |
09:40.05 | Malkuth | ok yet another question, I have a lua file thats downloaded, has a list of all dkp values for all the players |
09:41.28 | Malkuth | before hand id use that for all sorting etc, and just save a local list of winners which I use to deduct points of their scores, so their actuall dkp on that raid remains accurate only showing available dkp |
09:43.32 | Malkuth | now the idea I had, was to import the dkp table from lua page into a local table, and manipulate that direct |
09:44.19 | Malkuth | however I would need to have the ability to update data (ie someone added a raid to the dkp site because it had been missed) and not loose the local wins |
09:44.41 | Malkuth | just trying to think on the best way of doing that :/ |
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09:56.41 | haste | ckk is multiplying! |
09:56.54 | ckknight_ | oh noes |
09:57.08 | haste | how will this end! |
09:58.51 | ckknight_ | our weapons have been destroyed? |
09:58.57 | ckknight_ | well how shall we fight, then? |
09:59.00 | ckknight_ | a battle of wits? |
09:59.08 | ckknight_ | nay, we shall fight, with jazz! |
10:00.51 | Neronix | Why jazz, when you can fight with hard rock? |
10:00.53 | Malkuth | long as it isint freeform |
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10:01.45 | haste | playing: Machinae Supremacy - Through the looking glass (5:10) |
10:03.17 | ckknight_ | mmm... Smashing Pumpkins |
10:03.55 | kergoth | welp, only thing i miss about ct_mailmod now that i'm trying bulkmail is the mass looting of the inbound mail button |
10:05.04 | Malkuth | if I have a table where on updating of the core data I do self.opt.dkpdata.wins = {} as I should only be doing that very rarly shouldnt be a large eneough hit to worry about should it ? |
10:06.12 | Malkuth | damn forgot about that function kergoth, use it all the time |
10:22.16 | Malkuth | if winner["items"] doesn't exist will winner["items"]["itemname"] = 1 fail at the moment ive been checking for winner["items"] and if not doing winner["items"]={} ? |
10:23.15 | Malkuth | hmm |
10:23.38 | MoonWolf | these are questions awnsered best by testing it yourself. |
10:24.20 | Malkuth | will do, im just checking another page, to see if its answered in every example they declare it, so im assuming yes |
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11:09.09 | Malkuth | Thanks moonwolf, I think ill call my coding there today, ive already reached my, "not another question" quota |
11:09.33 | Malkuth | thanks again all for the advice/answers |
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11:54.39 | Shyva | morning guys |
11:55.39 | MoonWolf | morning |
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12:25.13 | Tain | How to destroy the Earth - http://qntm.org/destroy |
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12:57.04 | Shyva | cool stuff Tain ^^ |
13:08.59 | Industrial | someone had too much time on his hands |
13:09.00 | Industrial | :P |
13:10.49 | Tain | There was also a link to the Evil Overlord list which is a wonderful classic, if you've never read it. |
13:10.53 | Tain | http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html |
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13:17.04 | Elkano | ckknight, are you physicaly available? |
13:22.11 | Industrial | Elkano: lol? |
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13:22.26 | Elkano | well, it seems like he isn't ^^ |
13:22.38 | Industrial | Elkano: showing gratitude for what he does is one thing.. :P |
13:23.07 | Elkano | :| |
13:26.12 | Tain | Comedy gold. http://youtube.com/watch?v=YcWXL8jpFGs&search=guild%20wars |
13:32.11 | Neronix | That wins xD |
13:32.57 | Neronix | The end too, soley for the bg music from ff6 |
13:34.01 | Industrial | damn |
13:34.05 | Industrial | didnt know GW looked that good |
13:34.44 | Industrial | wtf@ same dances btw |
13:35.20 | maia | seems as if they copied as much as possible from wow. |
13:35.44 | Neronix | That reminds me |
13:35.55 | Tain | Cosmetic stuff, gameplay isn't all that similar. |
13:35.57 | Industrial | it does look a hell of a lot better then wow |
13:36.01 | Neronix | there's this flash movie that's a parody of the final boss battle in ff6 |
13:36.03 | Industrial | all the models |
13:36.04 | Industrial | wow |
13:36.05 | Industrial | .. |
13:36.15 | Neronix | with every console ever as the party, and the psp as kefka |
13:36.22 | Neronix | and I can't remember what it's called >.< |
13:36.46 | Industrial | oh yeahi was ack on irc because... |
13:36.52 | Industrial | What professions bring in money? |
13:36.57 | Industrial | mining+herbalism? |
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13:37.26 | Tain | It's easiest to do mining or herbalism and skinning. |
13:37.36 | Industrial | (I think its good that gathering in games always pays off more) |
13:37.39 | Neronix | don't do mining and herbalism at once |
13:37.44 | Industrial | why not |
13:37.44 | Tain | Because then you don't have to switch back an forth tracking |
13:37.48 | Neronix | can't have both find skills at once |
13:37.54 | Industrial | ah |
13:38.01 | Neronix | and skinning's ridiculously easy to level up while you level |
13:38.07 | Neronix | I'm only lv40 and I have 270 skinning :P |
13:38.11 | Industrial | well.. herbalism sellf for rediculous prices right? |
13:38.19 | Neronix | so I heard |
13:38.23 | Tain | It can, so can mining. |
13:38.27 | Industrial | herba+skinning it is |
13:38.41 | Industrial | got this very cute mage girl ^_^ |
13:38.56 | Neronix | A ha! found it! |
13:38.56 | Tain | There's more demand for ore/bars than for herbs, so there's a potentially more consistent market. |
13:38.56 | Neronix | http://www.dontpressstart.com/pro/SF6/ |
13:39.08 | Tain | But it really depends on the server. |
13:39.42 | Elkano | 20 bronce bars for 1g50 if you're lucky :) ~80s normaly |
13:43.58 | Industrial | hmm smelting levels mining too right... and you find gems... |
13:44.29 | Neronix | Smelting doesn't level much at all |
13:44.31 | Neronix | unless it's gold :P |
13:44.39 | Neronix | helps you get high enough for mithril |
13:44.53 | Tain | Yeah smelting only helps for a very few levels |
13:45.15 | Elkano | but it's depressing having 229 standing before truesilver :/ |
13:45.46 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/bg/WoWScrnShot_052606_204104.jpg |
13:45.48 | Industrial | huzzah! |
13:46.04 | CIA-17 | 03maia * r2143 10SmartRes/ (6 files): SmartRes: completely new attempt, couldn't find bug in first version. |
13:46.15 | Industrial | Tain: know you dont feel like it anymore but: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/errors/WoWScrnShot_052706_000135.jpg |
13:46.39 | Industrial | and my mage: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/views/WoWScrnShot_052706_153846.jpg |
13:46.43 | Industrial | :D |
13:47.22 | Tain | Do'nt know where that would come from, Visor doesn't use Timex at all. |
13:47.29 | Neronix | http://www.dontpressstart.com/pro/SF6/ - No, RLY! Watch it! |
13:47.45 | Neronix | If you want the funnyness, watch the battle scenes |
13:48.06 | Industrial | Tain: i know :D |
13:48.08 | Industrial | :S |
13:50.18 | maia | can anyone who's planning to run a raid this weekend and who's playing a resser class test SmartRes for me? |
13:50.50 | maia | it's a tiny addon that will attempt to res people in range and announce via /say, plus skip ppl who are being ressed by others this moment. |
13:51.29 | maia | I won't see MC/BWL/AQ before mid-may, so any testing is appreciated. |
13:57.19 | haste | Industrial: that error is posted on the Timex forum also |
13:58.16 | Industrial | haste: k |
13:58.28 | Industrial | Hm, i feel like using my fishing macro again |
13:58.29 | Industrial | :P |
13:58.43 | haste | fishing.. macro.... bot? |
13:58.55 | Industrial | :> |
13:59.36 | haste | incoming ban! |
13:59.47 | Shyva | could anyone help me with this please: http://ace.pastebin.com/741170 |
14:01.19 | haste | extend the sort functio fry gave you :o ? |
14:01.22 | haste | (I hate sorting) |
14:01.34 | Shyva | fry's thingie didn't work... :-( |
14:01.44 | Shyva | and I fail at sorting tables :-/ |
14:03.18 | Shyva | I hope FryGuy can make a working one for me once ^^ |
14:03.33 | haste | table.sort(t, function(a,b) return a<b end) << explains it good enough? |
14:05.55 | Lucen | table.sort(t, function(a,b) return a[2]< b[2] end) << I think it'd be this for that data set |
14:06.27 | Shyva | Thanks lucen, will try it now |
14:07.04 | Lucen | not absolutely sure though, check out oRA_Durability or oRA_Resist for different examples |
14:07.18 | haste | Lucen: status? ;) |
14:07.28 | Lucen | unit frames? |
14:07.40 | haste | h-ai~ |
14:07.52 | Lucen | eh..i'm getting bored sadly |
14:07.57 | Lucen | the frames are all done pretty much |
14:08.01 | Lucen | just the options now |
14:08.13 | haste | same as me then, options aren't very motivating to do |
14:08.19 | Lucen | so true |
14:08.26 | haste | since... it's many of them, and I'm already satisfied |
14:08.39 | Lucen | hehe..yeah..that's my problem |
14:08.51 | Shyva | you rock Lucen ! Thanks :-D |
14:08.51 | Lucen | i don't need any options beyond the ability to hide the frames |
14:09.01 | Lucen | np shyva |
14:10.21 | haste | I don't need any options beyond what's already coded :< |
14:10.24 | haste | ie. the frames |
14:10.34 | Lucen | ya |
14:10.41 | haste | I'm unsure if I should add the string system again tho' |
14:10.49 | Lucen | i'm not :x |
14:10.58 | haste | I'm thinking of just adding options |
14:11.09 | haste | cba to support people who can't read :( |
14:11.11 | Lucen | ya that's what I was thinking too |
14:12.41 | haste | I ended up using dewdrop tho' |
14:12.52 | haste | since it basicly has everything I needed |
14:14.42 | Lucen | i saw the ss, i'm trying not to steal your idea though :P |
14:15.19 | haste | hehe |
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14:36.53 | Neronix | Best recycle bin sound ever: Strong Bad shouting "Deleted!" complete with the buzzer |
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14:56.16 | Neronix | haste: Little request for oUF2, if it isn't too big of a problem |
14:56.30 | haste | shouldn't be |
14:56.33 | Neronix | Variable frame widths please :) |
14:56.51 | haste | I'm thinking of it |
14:56.59 | Neronix | I found the original ones far too wide, and I almost messed things up when I tried visor hax |
14:57.15 | haste | might be 'cause the bars has a fixed width :p |
14:57.28 | Neronix | :P |
14:57.40 | haste | I can't promise anything for a first release tho' :< |
14:57.47 | Neronix | it's cool |
15:02.17 | Neronix | Hmm, why did mages need an overhaul? |
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15:08.08 | Tain | To address the issues. |
15:48.08 | maia | anyone who can give me a simple explanation to OOP in ace by taking a look at the 10 lines of code at http://ace.pastebin.com/741274 ? |
15:48.52 | maia | I think I understand the basic concept of OOP now, but I'm still not sure how the implementation should look. |
15:53.37 | maia | hrm, guess I'm talking to myself and everyone is asleep. |
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16:17.38 | hyperChipmunk | mornin' Cairennator |
16:19.25 | Cairenn | hey hyperChipmunk |
16:22.44 | maia | cry. |
16:22.56 | Cairenn | ? |
16:24.00 | Elkano | ho Cairenn :) |
16:24.01 | maia | trying to understand OOP. and stuff like kitty = new:Cat() are just a bit too far away from wow for me. I don't know how to transfer that to wow lua at all. |
16:24.06 | Cairenn | hey Elkano |
16:24.34 | maia | or Cat:new(), whatever ;) |
16:25.16 | Elkano | well, new Cat() will most likely become Cat:new() ;) |
16:25.27 | maia | hrm. |
16:26.32 | maia | retry. the following is functional code I guess: function GetClass(unit) local _,class = UnitClass(unit) return class end. how would it look in OOP? |
16:27.36 | maia | or somewhat more ace-like: http://ace.pastebin.com/741274 |
16:29.25 | Elkano | well, I think that it's already OOP... at least to some extend... |
16:29.54 | maia | hm. if I'd have 'unit' as class, I guess I could do something like unit.GetClass(), right? |
16:30.04 | maia | and this would be more OOP I guess. |
16:30.52 | Elkano | so you would have sth like Raid:GetUnit(name):GetClass() ? |
16:31.22 | maia | I guess so? |
16:31.51 | Elkano | (I'm not that good wrt OOP and WoW :/ ) |
16:32.22 | maia | I don't really know what it would look like, but I assume a function that will get a class for a unit should somehow be a child of unit, instead of a normal function GetClass(unit). |
16:33.42 | maia | I'd want to have functions like: unit:AddToRoster(), unit:RemoveFromRoster(), unit:Update() but also frame:Update(), frame:Destroy() etc. |
16:33.56 | Elkano | in this case I think you would have to build a factory returning unit objects that offer you such funtionality |
16:34.49 | maia | now I'm even more confused. a 'factory returning unit object'. hm. |
16:34.57 | Elkano | but I don't know how this will impact performance and memory :/ |
16:37.45 | Elkano | well, to be able to do a GetClass() on your unit, you will need an object that offers that functionality. and every unit of the raid will have to offer this so you need sth tht given an identifier like raid1 will return a unit object with such a functionality |
16:38.11 | Elkano | (I may be totaly wrong but to me it sounds logical...) |
16:38.37 | maia | oh, I see. |
16:39.18 | maia | guess I'll stick to functional programming. |
16:39.50 | maia | no new cat. |
16:41.14 | Elkano | I've done the same until now ^^ |
16:42.20 | Elkano | but you can mix some of the asspects into eachother like you have done in the code snipet... having test:GetClass(name) also is somehow OOP |
16:42.21 | maia | well, I gotta go. thanks, Elkano. |
16:42.31 | Elkano | you're welcome :) |
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17:08.29 | haste | nice! |
17:08.33 | haste | java just made a fork! |
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17:09.05 | Malkuth | why not a spoon ? |
17:09.12 | haste | :< |
17:09.39 | Malkuth | sorry been one of those days, coded all morning then had my 3 hours of shading done on a tattoo and it hurt like buggery hehe |
17:10.03 | Malkuth | so my sense of humour may not be funny *tm |
17:11.43 | Elkano | did I hear fork? http://www.deviantart.com/view/23149690/ |
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17:31.58 | Amadeo- | Probably the best PvP video I've ever seen, including the concept of PvP matches |
17:31.59 | Amadeo- | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=21300 |
17:34.59 | Amadeo- | but his UI sucks |
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17:47.44 | CIA-17 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r2144 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua BulkMail.toc BulkMailLocals.lua CHANGELOG): |
17:47.44 | CIA-17 | 0.5.1: |
17:47.44 | CIA-17 | - Bag ID off-by-one error fixed; the leftmost bag should now be recognized |
17:47.44 | CIA-17 | - Significantly optimized the generation of item lists when typing a name into t |
17:47.44 | CIA-17 | he To: field |
17:47.45 | CIA-17 | - You can now no longer add items to the AutoSend list without an explicit desti |
17:47.46 | CIA-17 | nation when no default destination has been set |
17:58.58 | hyperChipmunk | i like the new web interface |
17:59.05 | hyperChipmunk | it's blazing fast |
17:59.12 | hyperChipmunk | gj clad|sleep =D |
17:59.20 | Amadeo- | just says index for me :( |
17:59.36 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/root |
17:59.37 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
18:00.09 | Amadeo- | hacks! |
18:00.36 | hyperChipmunk | thx cai |
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18:01.26 | Amadeo- | <3 clad |
18:01.33 | Amadeo- | thanks hyperChipmunk :) |
18:02.04 | Cairenn | welcome |
18:02.13 | Neronix | Java forked!? |
18:02.14 | Cairenn | imma try it out, even |
18:02.19 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I think that was always there; but now the other crap isn't, so that actually goes reasonably fast |
18:02.21 | Amadeo- | I think I'm gonna go get some exercize, but don't tell anyone, it might ruin my reputation |
18:02.25 | Neronix | I'm not much of a codet, but I know that's a big deal |
18:06.09 | Neronix | hm, false alarm |
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18:24.14 | haste | hyperChipmunk: that isn't the "web-interface". :p |
18:24.21 | haste | it's always been there tho' |
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18:39.51 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
18:39.55 | hyperChipmunk | it's blazing fast, though! |
18:40.11 | hyperChipmunk | and it's A web interface |
18:43.28 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, when you check out an svn repo using http://, its just a webdav interface to the repository. so thats the exact same web interface svn itself uses |
18:43.33 | kergoth | :) |
18:45.26 | hyperChipmunk | shush |
18:45.29 | hyperChipmunk | it's fast |
18:45.37 | hyperChipmunk | let me tease the dude, kay? |
18:45.49 | hyperChipmunk | you pedants are no fun |
18:47.02 | Industrial | sdfg |
18:47.06 | Industrial | just wanted to pm him |
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18:47.09 | Industrial | ah |
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19:12.02 | Amadeo- | Hey Industrial |
19:12.12 | Amadeo- | the button removal addon isn't working :( |
19:18.52 | hyperChipmunk | yo Teminator |
19:19.37 | Tem | rawr |
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19:29.03 | Neronix | hyperChipmunk: Is there going to be an open-all-mail button in bulkmail? |
19:31.19 | kergoth | aw, sortenchant is erroring :9 |
19:31.58 | hyperChipmunk | first things first |
19:32.19 | hyperChipmunk | I've got improvements planned for that aspect of things, too |
19:34.10 | Neronix | I see |
19:35.02 | kergoth | yay |
19:35.15 | kergoth | clicking on all those mails is just way too much work for my lazy ass |
19:35.54 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
19:36.01 | hyperChipmunk | you can still use mailmods's |
19:36.03 | Neronix | ~laziness |
19:36.05 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
19:36.18 | Gngsk | an inverse would be nice, like open all unclicked |
19:37.34 | hyperChipmunk | i never realized how way-overdone those addons were until i compared; BulkMail in its entirety is less than half the size of just the MassMail portion of MailMod, without localization |
19:37.55 | kergoth | hmm, i seem to remember seeing mail looting addons on the wowace forums at some point |
19:37.58 | kergoth | wonder if any are usable |
19:38.13 | hyperChipmunk | thought tem had something or another |
19:38.14 | Gngsk | AHMailCollect? |
19:38.16 | Neronix | I could ninja CT's code and make it standalone :P |
19:38.24 | hyperChipmunk | CT's is standalone |
19:39.08 | hyperChipmunk | there are instructions in the BulkMail comments on using its inbox code with BulkMail |
19:39.08 | Neronix | trim it down and change the xml into lua that's only generated once the mailbox is opened the first time in a session |
19:39.14 | Neronix | Ah |
19:39.16 | hyperChipmunk | it's already separate files |
19:39.27 | kergoth | hmm, i need to make use of bulkmail's autosend feature some |
19:39.31 | hyperChipmunk | you just change the toc to not include it, and include the localization |
19:39.39 | kergoth | start shoveling stuff at my auction house mule |
19:39.41 | hyperChipmunk | since the localization is in the massmail file |
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20:11.30 | haste | finally, after a overdose of espresso - my mind works again! |
20:28.56 | Industrial | haste: have some time now? |
20:28.58 | Industrial | eh? eh? |
20:30.30 | kergoth | Industrial, http://kergoth.com/vim_002.png |
20:30.30 | haste | I'm still poking this |
20:30.36 | kergoth | Industrial, check out the file explorer i'm using |
20:30.38 | Industrial | haste: oki |
20:30.54 | Industrial | nice kergoth |
20:31.26 | pagefault | damnit |
20:31.30 | pagefault | you have to share that vim setup |
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20:31.52 | kergoth | pagefault, svn co http://kergoth.com/svn/homefiles :P |
20:32.14 | pagefault | thx |
20:32.28 | kergoth | hell, theres even a trac for it :) http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/timeline |
20:32.35 | haste | :o |
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20:37.49 | ckknight | hey all |
20:37.56 | haste | hello ckk |
20:45.30 | hyperChipmunk | think TTV is ready in batfu |
20:45.43 | hyperChipmunk | gonna test it next match |
20:47.07 | haste | TTV? |
20:47.26 | hyperChipmunk | Time-To-Victory |
20:47.32 | haste | meep meep |
20:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: is there a way to add just a default-formatted line to a tablet w/o creating a category for it, or like a Title thing? |
20:58.34 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
20:58.47 | ckknight | just have tablet:AddCategory():AddLine(...) |
20:59.04 | hyperChipmunk | k, that's how I did it |
21:04.20 | hyperChipmunk | well, I did tablet:AddCategory(...):AddLine() |
21:04.40 | hyperChipmunk | because i want it header-white, not yellow |
21:05.34 | ckknight | so you set 'textR', 'textG', etc. |
21:05.41 | hyperChipmunk | nope, just text |
21:05.41 | ckknight | hrm |
21:05.53 | ckknight | you could just do tablet:AddCategory(...) |
21:05.58 | ckknight | don't need the :AddLine() bit |
21:06.20 | hyperChipmunk | yea, or it doesn't show one; I tried it |
21:06.31 | ckknight | then that's a bug |
21:06.33 | hyperChipmunk | tablet:AddCategory('text', "LOLLIPOPS"):AddLine() works |
21:06.39 | ckknight | oh |
21:06.42 | ckknight | I know why |
21:06.46 | ckknight | it doesn't show blank categories |
21:06.47 | hyperChipmunk | tablet:AddCategory('text', "LOLLIPOPS") doesn't |
21:06.48 | hyperChipmunk | right |
21:06.54 | ckknight | hang on... |
21:07.43 | ckknight | just use tablet:AddCategory():AddLine('text', "LOLLIPOPS', 'textR', 1, 'textG', 1, 'textB', 1) |
21:08.52 | hyperChipmunk | k |
21:14.30 | Codayus | hmm, 5k queue on the ptr |
21:14.36 | Codayus | bah. hax, I tell you |
21:15.06 | hyperChipmunk | on saturday evening? i don't believe you |
21:16.28 | Codayus | Hmm, no queue on the rppvp side. Not that I can test most of the stuff I need to there on a lvl 1 alt. |
21:16.50 | Codayus | Seriously, I think bliz really messed up the char copy stuff... :-) |
21:17.23 | Codayus | wow...I've never seen so many corpses before |
21:17.50 | Codayus | Northshire valley on the rppvp ptr is *covered* in bodies |
21:23.44 | Codayus | Hmm. |
21:24.16 | Codayus | Casting smite made me d/c |
21:24.36 | Codayus | "World server is down." |
21:24.55 | Codayus | WTF? Please tell me casting smite didn't just crash the eastern continent. oO |
21:27.03 | haste | Codayus: it usually deletes random content. |
21:27.18 | Codayus | Hmm, guess it was just odd timing. |
21:27.26 | Codayus | Hmm, a *LOT* of my addons are a bit stuffed. Blah |
21:28.20 | Amadeo- | man |
21:28.28 | Amadeo- | Playing a healing Priest is actually a lot of fun in PvP |
21:28.35 | Amadeo- | you just get no glory on the charts |
21:29.28 | Amadeo- | I love being able to somehow stay alive with 4 people on me |
21:29.43 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/fun/WoWScrnShot_052706_012202.jpg |
21:29.55 | liviux | good evening to everybody |
21:30.07 | Industrial | lo liviux |
21:30.11 | Industrial | Amadeo-: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/bg/WoWScrnShot_052606_204104.jpg |
21:30.16 | Industrial | :P |
21:30.39 | Amadeo- | nice :) |
21:30.49 | Amadeo- | Industrial: Did you see what I said about the buttons!? |
21:31.01 | Industrial | Amadeo-: yea |
21:31.05 | Amadeo- | ok :) |
21:31.29 | liviux | about what are you talking? |
21:31.45 | Amadeo- | liviux: Industrial's idChat addon |
21:31.55 | Industrial | one of my addons - its supposed to hide your chatframe buttons |
21:32.14 | liviux | i'm lucky |
21:32.23 | Industrial | ? :p |
21:34.21 | liviux | nithing, nothing |
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21:39.45 | Syzx | is wowace svn down? |
21:39.47 | Tekkub | erf |
21:39.55 | Tekkub | the web interface is |
21:40.30 | clad|sleep | the web interface no longer exists. |
21:40.35 | Industrial | Amadeo-: I'm adding readme's :P |
21:40.36 | hyperChipmunk | it rules |
21:40.36 | cladhaire | and won't be returning in that form. |
21:40.40 | Syzx | :< |
21:40.42 | hyperChipmunk | it's blazing fast now |
21:40.48 | cladhaire | Syzx: http://svn.wowace.com/root |
21:41.31 | Syzx | wow, thanks! :) |
21:41.35 | Syzx | that'll do |
21:43.01 | Tekkub | wait a second... |
21:43.10 | Tekkub | did Bushy finally realize he's a moron? |
21:43.26 | haste | can't be |
21:43.27 | Tekkub | ohly fuck, hell must have frozven over |
21:44.12 | Tekkub | hrm... hey claddo... |
21:44.28 | Tekkub | is there gonna be any tarball downloads or web view for changelogs at all? |
21:44.38 | cladhaire | Tekkub: You can use CIA |
21:44.43 | cladhaire | i'll work on getting something for tarballs. |
21:44.45 | Tekkub | cause uhm... I have lots of link floating around that are broken now >< |
21:44.49 | cladhaire | Yeah i know |
21:44.51 | cladhaire | i'll do what i can. |
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21:45.01 | cladhaire | but unless you want to take a stab at it its what we're stuck with at the moment =( |
21:45.09 | Tekkub | I kinda relied on automatic changelog creation there :) |
21:45.20 | Tekkub | I don't stab well |
21:45.33 | Tekkub | I'm more of a gradual, well lubed impaling sort |
21:46.33 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/ |
21:46.37 | Industrial | added readme's |
21:46.46 | cladhaire | Tekkub: I promise i"ll try to work on it. |
21:46.52 | Tekkub | ^^ |
21:47.04 | Tekkub | changelogs are the main thing, I'll look at CIA |
21:49.19 | Codayus | cladhaire: How much resources was the websvn stuff using? |
21:49.32 | Syzx | Industrial what do you mean with: "Remove the /1, /2, /3, /4, /5, [Guild], etc tags replacing tem with /1: /2: /3: /4: /5: g: p: o: etc" |
21:49.55 | Codayus | Hmm, my grammar are teh poor. |
21:49.56 | Tekkub | hrm... I don't see search options on CIA, bugger |
21:50.32 | cladhaire | Codayus: A lot =) |
21:50.38 | cladhaire | Codayus: Much more than I was allocated |
21:50.53 | cladhaire | bbias |
21:51.02 | Tekkub | it's all our commits isn't it? the repo got big, fast |
21:51.16 | Tekkub | I think it's the same thing we did to the opensvn repo :) |
21:51.31 | Industrial | Syzx: where? |
21:51.46 | Syzx | http://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/IdChat_Addon |
21:51.53 | Industrial | ah |
21:52.01 | Industrial | that eeds to be deleted :< |
21:52.17 | Industrial | but what i mean is that youll see [1] instead of [1. General] |
21:52.22 | Codayus | cladhaire: I'd be interested in seeing a ballpark figure on resource usage if it wouldn't be too much trouble - just when you get a chance. :-) |
21:52.27 | Industrial | havent made it yt |
21:53.33 | Syzx | is that mod customizable? i dont like the input box on top of the chatwindow :P |
21:56.19 | Industrial | Syzx: actually it is ^^ |
21:56.28 | Syzx | good, then i'll dl it :) |
21:56.32 | Industrial | wait :> |
21:56.55 | Industrial | Im busy with a new version, but im hosting it on my own webspace: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/ |
21:57.07 | Industrial | filetype is 7zip |
21:57.23 | Tekkub | hrm... so if my math is right... I have to dump half of that bucket of baking soda in the pool to get the alkalinity up where it's sposda be at |
21:57.32 | Industrial | you can just download all of those except for idChatEditbox - wich does what you didnt like |
21:57.37 | Tekkub | that's a lot of baking soda.... |
21:57.44 | cladhaire | Codayus: i can't give you one, I dont have a way to do it. We can't monitor our own, and the system uses "Cp's" which are a fictional unit. |
21:57.53 | Codayus | Hmm, charming. :-) |
21:58.15 | cladhaire | they include all disk/system/mysql usage |
21:58.27 | Codayus | What host? |
21:58.30 | cladhaire | dreamhost |
21:58.33 | Codayus | Ah. |
21:58.51 | Industrial | Question, can i do: if {'Hunter, 'Warlock'}[UnitClass('player')] then ? |
21:59.08 | Industrial | jus for fun |
21:59.10 | Codayus | which package do you have? |
21:59.10 | Industrial | :P |
21:59.18 | cladhaire | Codayus: Its not listed.. I have a lot of everything =) |
21:59.22 | Codayus | Ah, kk. |
21:59.29 | cladhaire | the cladhaire special |
22:00.58 | gnorlish | where can i get a query list for cia |
22:02.52 | Syzx | Industrial that are a lot of 7z's, everything in a seperate folder :( |
22:03.00 | ckknight | Industrial, yes, you could |
22:03.11 | Industrial | ckknight: i tried and apparently not |
22:03.15 | ckknight | really? |
22:03.16 | ckknight | weird |
22:03.24 | ckknight | also, it's not localized |
22:03.26 | Industrial | Syzx: Yes, so its easier to choose |
22:03.30 | ckknight | oh |
22:03.34 | ckknight | I know the issue |
22:03.38 | Industrial | Syzx: these are minimal chunks of code tbh |
22:03.54 | ckknight | if {Hunter=1, Warlock=1}[UnitClass('player')] then ... end |
22:04.01 | Industrial | ah |
22:04.03 | Industrial | but |
22:04.13 | Syzx | Industrial: yeah, why not put them in subdirectories under a folder idChat -.- |
22:04.34 | Industrial | if {'a','b','c'}['b'] then print('LOL') end |
22:04.36 | Industrial | doesnt work |
22:04.45 | Industrial | Syzx: becauseive just pulled them apart |
22:05.23 | Syzx | so you'll put them back together in a folder eventually? |
22:05.30 | Industrial | no |
22:05.45 | Industrial | (Whats the poblem btw) |
22:06.08 | Syzx | not a problem, i like my addon folder nice and clean :p |
22:06.30 | Industrial | *shrug* |
22:06.43 | Syzx | ye, i can sort them myself i guess :) |
22:06.54 | Industrial | readme says so \o/ |
22:08.25 | cladhaire | a bunch of people requested access to the SVN |
22:08.28 | cladhaire | i dont think they really need it |
22:08.30 | cladhaire | so i have to weed it out now. |
22:08.57 | gnorlish | i just want a way to get a trunk changelog :o |
22:09.34 | Industrial | cladhaire: just give it only if they add something |
22:09.43 | cladhaire | Industrial: Yeah, but now i have to talk to them to see if they do =) |
22:09.47 | cladhaire | i dont like talking to people |
22:09.48 | Industrial | hehe |
22:09.50 | cladhaire | i'm making baked ziti |
22:09.52 | cladhaire | its almost done |
22:09.54 | cladhaire | i'm excited. |
22:10.00 | Industrial | ziti? -_^ |
22:10.01 | cladhaire | cause then i can start a game of dota, and eat |
22:10.03 | cladhaire | actually |
22:10.08 | cladhaire | its baked mini-penne |
22:10.11 | cladhaire | but who's counting. |
22:10.17 | Industrial | dota? -_^ |
22:10.21 | hyperChipmunk | wc3 |
22:10.24 | cladhaire | wc3 |
22:10.33 | cladhaire | damn you hc =) |
22:10.37 | Industrial | :p |
22:10.38 | cladhaire | anyone wanna play? |
22:10.49 | Industrial | dont have wc3 |
22:10.51 | gnorlish | what version of dota |
22:10.57 | cladhaire | 6.32 |
22:11.05 | cladhaire | the latest |
22:11.06 | gnorlish | you got a vent or ts server? |
22:11.28 | cladhaire | yeah but i can't get on vent atm |
22:11.30 | cladhaire | headset broken |
22:11.58 | cladhaire | and i'm waiting for the ziti to be "take-out-of-the-oven-able" |
22:11.59 | gnorlish | it's kinda boring without being able to complain in vent |
22:12.10 | cladhaire | lemme see if i can find a headset |
22:12.13 | cladhaire | are you on US east |
22:12.15 | cladhaire | azeroth? |
22:12.21 | gnorlish | yes i'm on useast |
22:12.26 | cladhaire | *cheer* |
22:12.36 | cladhaire | well lemme see what i can do |
22:13.47 | Syzx | http://www.wowace.com/?page=download 1.3.0 isnt the newest realease is it? |
22:13.54 | gnorlish | i'll be warming up.. i jus tstarted playing dota again for the first time in 3 years last week |
22:13.56 | cladhaire | wtf.. i got ihnto an ap game instead of an ar |
22:14.01 | cladhaire | Syzx: Grab it from wowinterface |
22:14.38 | cladhaire | only update was the toc. |
22:14.51 | Syzx | ah, i was wondering what changed :) |
22:14.57 | Tem | afas;df! |
22:15.03 | cladhaire | Tem: NO WAI |
22:15.05 | Tem | The kill the emp quest in BRD is broken |
22:15.23 | Tem | I'm really pissed |
22:15.32 | Tem | I just spent 2 hours clearing to him and the quest bugged out |
22:15.45 | Tem | A GM better fucking give me my ring and gold! |
22:22.41 | *** join/#wowace Amadeo_ (i=zenon@c-69-143-220-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
22:30.12 | Tem|AFK | cladhaire: zomg DOTA? |
22:31.09 | netcurse | dota ftw |
22:31.38 | cladhaire | *nod* |
22:31.42 | cladhaire | i got bounty hunter |
22:31.46 | cladhaire | and we fed right side. |
22:31.50 | cladhaire | so the necrolic is killing us |
22:32.02 | hyperChipmunk | Tem|AFK: be happy; TTV in within the next hour or so |
22:32.34 | Tem|AFK | ttv? |
22:32.45 | hyperChipmunk | Time to Victory |
22:32.53 | hyperChipmunk | AB |
22:32.57 | Tem|AFK | ya |
22:32.58 | Tem|AFK | y |
22:32.59 | hyperChipmunk | you asked about it yesterday |
22:33.33 | hyperChipmunk | I screwed up the last test by deleting the table of values and not noticing I deleted it |
22:34.49 | Tem|AFK | hehe |
22:34.55 | Tem|AFK | get on the PTR to test |
22:35.02 | Tem|AFK | AB queues are pretty much instant |
22:35.04 | hyperChipmunk | I can't |
22:35.14 | hyperChipmunk | patch says it's already patched |
22:35.15 | Tem|AFK | oh right Linux hates the patcher |
22:35.25 | hyperChipmunk | even though there's clearly no WoWTest directory |
22:35.25 | Tem|AFK | damn, and I just got off the PTR |
22:35.27 | hyperChipmunk | you suck nub |
22:35.37 | Tem|AFK | well I'm going to my grandparents house with my rents |
22:35.50 | Tem|AFK | they should be here to pick me up any minute |
22:35.54 | hyperChipmunk | walk on their grass for me |
22:35.59 | Codayus | Tem|AFK: About the emp quest - the princess bugged, right? |
22:36.04 | Tem|AFK | yeah |
22:36.11 | Codayus | It appears to have something to do with distance from the emp. |
22:36.12 | Tem|AFK | been bugged a while aparently |
22:36.36 | Tem|AFK | well, a GM better gimme my gold an my ring, else I'm gonna be pissed |
22:36.43 | Codayus | The old tactic was to tank her was the hell down the hall so she doesn't heal the emp - but if she's that far away, it *seems* like she doesn't "see" the emp die. Total suckage. |
22:37.01 | Tem|AFK | she wasn't that far from the emp |
22:37.01 | Codayus | s/her was/her way/ |
22:37.05 | Codayus | Hmm |
22:37.15 | Codayus | Blah, guess it's a buggier bug than I realized. :-) |
22:37.26 | Tem|AFK | do you have any idea how hard it is to get a group to go that far in BRD in a raiding guild? |
22:37.32 | Tem|AFK | "wtf do you want in BRD, nub?" |
22:37.40 | Codayus | Heh, pretty easy in my guild. |
22:37.47 | Codayus | But we're not too serious. |
22:37.48 | Syzx | Industrial: idChat: if i switch to my combatlog tab and then back to my chat tab the buttons around the window appear again. |
22:37.49 | Tem|AFK | alliance or horde? |
22:37.52 | Codayus | Alliance. |
22:37.55 | Tem|AFK | oh |
22:37.56 | Tem|AFK | hmm |
22:38.05 | Tem|AFK | I dunno |
22:38.07 | Industrial | Syzx: known, on my todo list - thanks tho |
22:38.07 | Tem|AFK | we all hate BRD |
22:38.14 | Tem|AFK | I blame the ony questline |
22:38.40 | Codayus | I like that questline. :-) |
22:38.49 | hyperChipmunk | it's fun...once |
22:39.03 | Codayus | It helps if your a decent priest and know how to use Mind Control. BRD is nicely abusbale. |
22:39.32 | Tekkub | Lava diving! |
22:39.34 | Codayus | My brother and I duo all of BRD up to the chest of seven event for fun and cash. :-) |
22:39.45 | Industrial | Syzx: and it annoys me, so ill be fixing that soo |
22:39.47 | Industrial | soon* |
22:39.59 | Tem|AFK | Tekkub: yeah that's what we did |
22:40.10 | Tem|AFK | we swam through the lava to the lyceum |
22:40.14 | Tekkub | hehe, I wonder if they'll ever find need to nerf that |
22:40.19 | Codayus | Yeah? I heard you could do that...never tried. |
22:40.26 | Tekkub | no I mean MC mob lava dives |
22:41.09 | Codayus | Tekkub: Oh, I just meant abusing MC to make the dwarf pulls easy. Kill annoying mobs, MC healers, pull bar patrons without aggro, etc. |
22:41.41 | Tekkub | basically yea, make the mob dive into the lava and kill the other crap while you wait for him to respawn |
22:42.22 | Tekkub | I'm sure you know all that, since you were implying tha you are a good priest |
22:42.30 | Codayus | I usually just MC a mob and let his friends kill him. He doesn't respawn, and the priest gains zero hate. <shrug> |
22:42.39 | Codayus | I know you CAN do it, but I never considered doing it in BRD. |
22:42.41 | Tekkub | yea that works too |
22:42.47 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/idActionBar-11000-2.7z |
22:42.50 | Industrial | zing! |
22:42.53 | Codayus | It's a fun tactic for the drak room pulls in UBRS though... |
22:43.06 | Codayus | But I normally don't bother. |
22:43.16 | hyperChipmunk | here we go |
22:43.21 | hyperChipmunk | moment of troof |
22:43.22 | Syzx | what does that do Industrial? |
22:43.24 | Tekkub | I've had a few times where the priest just said "you know, ya'all'd be better off if I was healing instead of waiting on MC, I'm making this one dive" |
22:43.30 | hyperChipmunk | yay for errorz |
22:43.36 | Industrial | Syzx: readme ^^ |
22:43.37 | hyperChipmunk | nice, we win in -1d 7h 43m 17s |
22:44.02 | Tem|AFK | ~seen maldivia |
22:44.23 | purl | maldivia is currently on #wowi-lounge (9h 53m 56s). Has said a total of 29 messages. Is idling for 1m 48s, last said: 'Cide: you don't have enough ? :)'. |
22:44.23 | Tekkub | ~seen X-men 3 |
22:44.25 | purl | i haven't seen 'x-men 3', Tekkub |
22:44.26 | Tem|AFK | oh? |
22:44.26 | Tekkub | *grin* |
22:44.26 | Tem|AFK | how was it? |
22:44.28 | Syzx | Industrial: k -.-" |
22:44.34 | Industrial | Syzx: :p |
22:44.35 | Tekkub | ~Dr. Tran |
22:44.38 | purl | Hickory what? Smoked WHAT?!?! |
22:44.38 | Codayus | Hmm, I might try that next time. That could be really fun on that annoying pull in between the bar and the ambassasor |
22:45.03 | Codayus | Anyhow, what *I* want to know is - where exactly is the lava shortcut to the lycaeum? |
22:45.54 | Tekkub | I like that they're removing the repop timers in instances and making GY zerg impossible :) |
22:46.04 | Codayus | Excellent changes. |
22:46.22 | Tem|AFK | huh? |
22:46.24 | Tekkub | instance repop timer made no sense anyway, you have people there to rez and you miss loot if you're not in the zone at time of kill |
22:46.31 | Tem|AFK | instance repop timer? |
22:46.35 | Tem|AFK | I dun understand |
22:46.39 | Codayus | There's no "5 minute to release" timer. |
22:46.44 | Tekkub | Tem: new PTR patch thing is gonna remove the timer on deat h in instance |
22:46.51 | Tem|AFK | oh, cool |
22:46.51 | Codayus | Only in instances, yes. |
22:46.55 | Tem|AFK | oh, damn |
22:47.02 | Tem|AFK | that makes checking for SS more complex |
22:47.02 | Tekkub | and at the same time, if you do release and run back mid-boss-fight you'll rez OUTSIDE |
22:47.29 | Codayus | Well, for some bosses, anyhow. |
22:47.37 | Codayus | I assume Ony will be one of them. |
22:47.38 | Tekkub | basically they're loking zee fargate during boss fights |
22:47.44 | Codayus | Having a nub zone in at the wrong time is always...fun... |
22:47.53 | Tekkub | kek |
22:47.57 | Tem|AFK | bur |
22:48.31 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/idChatButtons-11000-2.7z |
22:48.36 | Industrial | Syzx: fixed! |
22:48.40 | Industrial | Amadeo_: fixed! |
22:48.52 | Tekkub | My cats: Fixed! |
22:49.00 | Industrial | :p |
22:49.25 | Tekkub | the people at work think I'm insane now |
22:49.53 | Industrial | why |
22:49.59 | Tekkub | cause I told em how the pool guy taught me how to turn the chlorinator into a flame thrower and possibly even set the pool water on fire |
22:50.12 | Industrial | lol |
22:50.15 | Tekkub | well, he taught me how NOT to, but I'd just have to reverse that... |
22:50.48 | Tekkub | I'm looking at this whole thing like one big chemistry lab.... where kids piss in the testtube... |
22:51.01 | Industrial | xD |
22:52.07 | Tekkub | speaking of, I need to go add more water, I backwashed the filters again this morn (and probably flooded the laundry room again... I'm such an ass ^^ ) |
22:52.19 | Tekkub | bbiam |
22:54.33 | Industrial | makes you feel less fat if you think of it as killing prey... |
22:54.35 | Syzx | Industrial: <3 that was a quick fix ^^ |
22:54.44 | Industrial | Syzx: np |
22:56.17 | Syzx | The mod Recap is dead isnt it, is there a succesor? |
22:56.37 | Tain | wow just tried out the new Consolas mono font from Office 2007. It puts the ug in ugly. |
22:56.59 | Industrial | thats not really new |
22:57.02 | hyperChipmunk | works! |
22:57.04 | hyperChipmunk | I saw that |
22:57.06 | Industrial | vista beta's had it |
22:57.09 | hyperChipmunk | it's like..gyah |
22:57.19 | Industrial | but yeah its ugly |
22:57.19 | hyperChipmunk | looks fuzzy |
22:57.29 | Industrial | and calibri |
22:57.33 | Industrial | thats what Clearfont uses |
22:57.36 | Industrial | (the addon) |
22:57.47 | Codayus | Syzx: Recap seems to still work okay...but I'd recommend checking out SW_stats. |
22:57.49 | hyperChipmunk | TTV is IN >8D |
22:57.55 | hyperChipmunk | committing after I get out of here |
22:58.03 | Codayus | http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2909-1-sw-stats.html |
22:58.42 | Syzx | Codayus: I tried sw stats, but the functionality and gui seemed less then what Recap is. |
22:59.11 | Codayus | Functionality is mixed. Better than recap for some stuff...worse than others. As a priest, I like the ability to get synced information on healing and overhealing. |
22:59.17 | Codayus | The GUI is...um...different. oO |
22:59.46 | Codayus | And my different, I mean "designed by someone who apparently thought that sliders were the only UI element you really need". :-) |
23:00.06 | Industrial | editbox > slider |
23:00.23 | haste | Codayus: kind of like my GUI on the unit frames! |
23:00.24 | Tem|AFK | ok, time for me to go |
23:00.28 | haste | SLIDERS !!!!11 |
23:00.29 | Tem|AFK | later guys |
23:00.31 | Industrial | bye tem |
23:00.33 | Codayus | The big lack is, AFAIK, that there's no ability to get "last fight" data. All you can get is "info since last reset" |
23:00.48 | Industrial | haste: pics plz? or do they look the same? |
23:01.08 | haste | I only have a movie :< |
23:01.14 | haste | since I cba to upload twice |
23:01.18 | Codayus | But I like SW_stats synced "effective healing" display. It does amazing things for my epeen. :-) |
23:01.19 | haste | and convert *shrugs* |
23:01.28 | Industrial | wheres the movie |
23:01.39 | haste | http://www.fuxsake.net/filer/oUF_GUI.mpeg << liek thar |
23:01.41 | Industrial | Codayus: hehehe |
23:01.46 | haste | mpeg ftw! |
23:01.49 | haste | xvidcap ftw! |
23:01.57 | haste | lags like there is no tomorrow! |
23:02.14 | Industrial | media player classic screwing it up FTL! |
23:02.25 | haste | VLC takes it after what I know |
23:02.26 | Industrial | lemme try VLC .. |
23:02.27 | haste | mplayer also |
23:02.35 | Industrial | bleh thats no gui |
23:02.48 | haste | It's GUI enough for me! |
23:02.55 | haste | I cba to wait more for AceGUI |
23:03.04 | Industrial | I don-touch windows commandline |
23:03.13 | Industrial | what does AceGUI do btw |
23:03.25 | haste | create... GUIs from lua |
23:03.34 | Industrial | doesnt lua do thaT? :D |
23:03.41 | haste | yes, but it's a PITA |
23:03.48 | haste | to make sliders and friends |
23:04.20 | snurre | poor enter button |
23:04.34 | Tain | Ug Lost season 3 doesn't start until October. |
23:04.43 | haste | ~comfort Tain |
23:04.50 | purl | There, there, Tain. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
23:04.50 | Tain | Oc-freakin-tober |
23:05.39 | haste | netcurse: I fail at findnig a RSS feed for curse :( |
23:05.42 | Industrial | haste: OMFG |
23:05.44 | Industrial | I LOVE IT |
23:05.46 | Industrial | release! |
23:05.47 | Industrial | :P |
23:05.50 | haste | ;O |
23:05.58 | Industrial | srsly fosho rly |
23:06.02 | haste | I'm like... done with what you see there |
23:06.04 | Industrial | got a date planned? |
23:06.04 | haste | + scaling |
23:06.08 | haste | no :> |
23:06.17 | Industrial | ow.. |
23:06.21 | haste | but I have lots of people whining ^^; |
23:06.44 | Industrial | will it have options for buff placement :P? |
23:06.53 | Industrial | i like to stack my frames |
23:06.53 | haste | can't you see it! ARE YOU BLIND?! |
23:07.08 | haste | take a look at the menu again |
23:07.19 | Industrial | lookie there... |
23:07.31 | Industrial | ;x |
23:07.34 | haste | I'm still thinking of how I should do it :< |
23:07.41 | Tain | haste one thing I'd like to see (no idea if it's feasible with what you're doing currently) is separate font sizes for the top and bottom rows. |
23:07.58 | haste | Tain: I will add that... eventually |
23:08.10 | haste | I just want to get the basic stuff done, quick and dirty for now |
23:08.22 | Tain | I completely forgot I was going to suggest that to cladhaire for WatchDog. |
23:09.19 | Industrial | haste: what is your idea on it now? |
23:09.46 | haste | putting all settings into a table or something |
23:09.51 | haste | maybe just one long nice string instead |
23:10.03 | haste | and split it up like I do with frame positioning |
23:12.12 | Amadeo_ | this is cool |
23:12.12 | Amadeo_ | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info5010-Reported!.html |
23:12.31 | haste | Amadeo_: progress on oUF2 a couple of lines up |
23:13.24 | Amadeo_ | :D |
23:13.41 | haste | (another xvidcap lagmovie by me!) |
23:13.59 | Amadeo_ | uh oh |
23:14.00 | Amadeo_ | haha |
23:14.30 | Amadeo_ | I have to get a better codec, I hate this K-Lite pack |
23:14.36 | Amadeo_ | that's what I get for being lazy |
23:14.42 | haste | VLC! |
23:14.45 | haste | and mplayer! |
23:15.36 | Amadeo_ | it's not the players! |
23:16.07 | haste | it is! |
23:16.22 | Amadeo_ | VLC has too many problems with files that aren't perfectly encoded |
23:16.45 | haste | I don't know about that |
23:16.48 | haste | I use mplayer *grin* |
23:18.47 | Amadeo_ | VLC sure is pretty on a Mac |
23:18.48 | Amadeo_ | http://download.videolan.org/vlc/screenshots/0.8.2/macosx-serenity.jpg |
23:19.47 | netcurse | haste, evening |
23:19.56 | netcurse | haste, RSS might wait for django. |
23:20.00 | netcurse | since it s automated. |
23:20.07 | haste | :o |
23:20.28 | haste | rss + caching is quite easy tho' |
23:20.31 | netcurse | their is only 2 developers on curse and the amount of work is equal to a much biger developement team.. |
23:20.46 | haste | ouch |
23:21.10 | netcurse | Haste, i want the DB done before ZAM show up.. |
23:21.22 | netcurse | and the movie section :) |
23:21.30 | cladhaire | Tain: What were you suggesting? |
23:21.41 | haste | aah |
23:22.06 | Tain | cladhaire: seaparate font sizes for the two lines in each unit frame |
23:22.18 | cladhaire | *nod* |
23:22.22 | cladhaire | it'll be one of the 17,000 options. |
23:22.24 | cladhaire | I hate WatchDog now |
23:22.28 | cladhaire | PerfectRaid is so much nicer |
23:22.31 | cladhaire | no customizatino =) |
23:22.50 | Tain | That's ok, I was hoping you weren't going to say, "It's been in there since the beginning n00b rtfm!" |
23:23.04 | cladhaire | lol |
23:23.19 | Tekkub | yea clad, WD is almost too complex :) |
23:23.25 | cladhaire | It'll be sexy tho |
23:23.32 | cladhaire | once CLique is seperate |
23:23.40 | Tekkub | and the clickcasting, of course, makes more sense as a seperate mod completely |
23:23.53 | Tain | You do need to include a better 3d texture of course. :) |
23:24.07 | Tekkub | oh BTW, I'm working an a range lib with maia based off the code in Squishy |
23:24.19 | Tekkub | you might wanna use it with PR once it's done |
23:24.30 | Amadeo_ | brb |
23:24.39 | Tekkub | speaking of, what's the run speeds in the game in yards/sec? |
23:24.42 | CIA-17 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r2145 10FuBar_CRDelayFu/ (CHANGELOG CRDelayFu.lua FuBar_CRDelayFu.toc): |
23:24.42 | CIA-17 | FuBar_CRDelayFu: |
23:24.42 | CIA-17 | - Updated for FuBar 1.2 libraries |
23:24.42 | CIA-17 | - 1.0 release: No future changes planned |
23:25.17 | Tekkub | I was thinking I should add a "probability" on a unit still being in range based off time since last test and the range they were at at the time |
23:25.44 | cladhaire | Tain: I use the LUF texture i think |
23:25.44 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
23:26.07 | Tekkub | like, I know he was within 30 yards 3 seconds ago, so he's probably only made it this far at normal run speed... |
23:26.44 | Tekkub | I guess I could give a min/max estimate instead of a probability on range |
23:27.06 | Tekkub | actually... just max... if the unit moves closer I can detect that... |
23:27.33 | Tekkub | so I guess I'd return back last time seen, range seen at, estimated curren t max range |
23:28.17 | Tekkub | okey fine then, I'll test it myself! |
23:28.20 | Tekkub | :P~~~ |
23:29.31 | CIA-17 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r2146 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua: |
23:29.31 | CIA-17 | GloryLib: |
23:29.31 | CIA-17 | - Battlegrounds "Time-to-Victory" finally implemented |
23:29.45 | hyperChipmunk | i'm here if ya need me |
23:29.59 | Tekkub | nah I can test with a stationary NPC |
23:30.21 | *** join/#wowace Amadeo- (i=zenon@c-69-143-220-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
23:30.32 | Amadeo- | Bleh, now I remember why VLC is a craptastic player |
23:30.35 | Amadeo- | uninstalling |
23:31.06 | Tekkub | I like Beyond Media/BeyondTV + Firefly remote |
23:31.23 | Amadeo- | does it load quick? |
23:31.52 | Tain | VLC is fine. |
23:32.00 | Amadeo- | Not for me |
23:32.07 | Amadeo- | I like to be able to fast-forward without artifacts |
23:32.10 | ckknight | VLC works great for me |
23:32.17 | Amadeo- | Not to mention, it takes too long to load |
23:32.34 | Amadeo- | and it still has trouble with imperfect video files |
23:32.36 | Tain | Get rid of all those nonsense codecs you don't need. |
23:32.51 | Amadeo- | I already did that :) |
23:32.56 | Tekkub | 20 ft/sec running :) |
23:33.16 | Tekkub | Ama: not really... well BTV does but not BM |
23:33.17 | Amadeo- | VLC might be better on an OS other than Windows, but I can't stand it on this OS |
23:33.30 | Tekkub | but I usually leave BM open as my PVR UI anyway |
23:33.48 | Tain | Dunno, I use VLC as my main player. |
23:33.48 | Amadeo- | You sound like you watch quite a few videos |
23:33.51 | CIA-17 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r2147 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/ (4 files): |
23:33.51 | CIA-17 | FuBar_BattlegroundFu: 1.1.5 |
23:33.51 | CIA-17 | - Time-to-Victory support added |
23:33.51 | CIA-17 | - Many tweaks and bugfixes |
23:34.05 | Amadeo- | Tain: I'm really anal :P |
23:34.06 | Tain | And love the FireFox plugin that lets you launch embedded videos in VLC |
23:34.09 | Tekkub | Lots of anime and the fem TV shows we record when they're "rarely" airing |
23:34.35 | Amadeo- | hyperChipmunk: Last time I tried out BGFu, I kept getting that sound where a window is opening and closing, all the time |
23:34.37 | Amadeo- | drove me insane |
23:35.14 | Amadeo- | then some windows would automatically close on me |
23:35.14 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
23:35.14 | Amadeo- | like /who windows |
23:35.14 | hyperChipmunk | that was experimental version |
23:35.15 | Amadeo- | does this new one do that? |
23:35.15 | hyperChipmunk | no |
23:35.15 | Amadeo- | :D |
23:35.15 | hyperChipmunk | but it also doesn't tell you how many battlegrounds instances are open |
23:35.18 | hyperChipmunk | because that's what that stuff did |
23:35.24 | Amadeo- | Hm |
23:35.31 | Amadeo- | I came across an addon for that once |
23:35.41 | hyperChipmunk | all the ones out there use /who listings |
23:35.54 | Amadeo- | it used QueueWho or something |
23:36.02 | hyperChipmunk | that's a who listing one =P |
23:36.09 | Amadeo- | yeah |
23:36.16 | Amadeo- | I ended up keeping QueueWho just because it's nice |
23:36.17 | hyperChipmunk | which is an estimate at best |
23:36.24 | Amadeo- | How did yours work? |
23:36.40 | hyperChipmunk | opened up the "Change Instance" window and scanned it |
23:37.08 | hyperChipmunk | it's one of those non-fixed functionality windows |
23:37.11 | hyperChipmunk | like tradeskills |
23:37.14 | Amadeo- | I see |
23:37.19 | hyperChipmunk | so you have to open it to get the information from it |
23:37.50 | hyperChipmunk | because those same functions return different values when a different version of it opens |
23:37.54 | hyperChipmunk | so they're not static |
23:38.35 | Amadeo- | You should ask Slouken to put in a feature for it |
23:40.38 | Industrial | anyone use idActionBar yet? :P |
23:41.03 | Amadeo- | mplayer is all command line? |
23:41.09 | Amadeo- | Industrial: I'm waiting until you can move it :P |
23:43.30 | Industrial | to where |
23:43.32 | Industrial | :D |
23:43.39 | Industrial | *badoom tisch* |
23:43.51 | Amadeo- | haha |
23:44.21 | Industrial | you could edit the lua.. |
23:44.38 | Industrial | line 68 |
23:47.48 | Amadeo- | Remember who you're talking to |
23:50.09 | cladhaire | amadeo, you dont need access to the svn, correct? |
23:51.43 | Amadeo- | cladhaire: Just to download, but I guess it's working again |
23:51.46 | Amadeo- | it worked earlier! |
23:53.15 | haste | Amadeo-: there are GUIs to it also |
23:53.39 | Amadeo- | is that what the skins are for it? |
23:55.28 | Amadeo- | I just assumed that those skins only showed up after you typed in some commands |
23:56.51 | Syzx | Industrial: the sign % doesnt appear on my chats :( |
23:57.53 | Tain | I forgot how much I liked Samurize for my Windows desktop. |