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00:04.12Mikmaaccount? blah
00:06.47*** join/#wowace Stylpe (n=Stylpe@185.84-48-162.nextgentel.com)
00:06.53snurrewtf, my char window keeps jumping back and forth between the frame spots
00:07.09StylpeHey, I don't understand the reply MoonWolf made to this post: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1506.msg25336.html#msg25336
00:08.20IndustrialStylpe: It means we like people who can rtfm
00:08.43Mikmawell if he can make acegui work then he should get the others work too
00:09.00StylpeNo, the reply MW gave indicated the OP didn't know how to write a proper post
00:09.18ckknightcrowbar?
00:09.27netcurseYep.
00:09.40snurreQuestsFu.lua:673: attempt to concatenate field `description' (a nil value)
00:09.41snurremeh
00:09.44Mikmawell he kinda didn't do proper post by asking something you're supposed to rtfm :P
00:09.50ckknightbtw, I'm fixing some issues with Django already, netcurse ;-)
00:09.53StylpeBut his post was quite well formulated and polite
00:09.53ckknighthehe
00:10.00Industrialckknight: django? :O
00:10.06ckknightPython web framework
00:10.07CodayusStylpe: Was it?  I didn't even understand it.  :-/
00:10.08Industriali know
00:10.09Industrial:D
00:10.13ckknightvery cool
00:10.19ckknightI added {% if 1 and 2 %}
00:10.29ckknightbefore just ors worked
00:10.31ckknightnow ands work as well
00:10.37netcurseckknight actually we ll set up the development platform tomorow
00:10.37ckknightI want the patch to go upstream, though
00:10.38netcursefor v3
00:10.39Industrialhow about not's
00:10.40ckknightI also added elseif
00:10.40Industrial:P
00:10.44Stylpe*puzzled*
00:10.45ckknightnetcurse, woot.
00:11.01Industrialnetcurse: you are using django with curse gaming?
00:11.05ckknight;-)
00:11.08Industrialckknight: and you are helping?
00:11.09ckknightI brainwashed em, Indie
00:11.10netcursev3 will use it, probably
00:11.13Industrialyay!
00:11.22ckknightyou offering to help? ;-)
00:11.28CodayusDjango scales pretty well.  Probably a good choice...
00:11.46CodayusConsidering the amount of traffic patch days can throw up.  <shudder>
00:11.52ckknightcurse will wait until at least Django 1.0 before release, though, likely
00:11.58IndustrialI dont have experience with django :p
00:12.16ckknightas I've said before, the best thing I see about Django is the separation of developers and programmers
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00:13.40kergoths/developers/designers/?
00:13.44ckknightyea
00:13.45ckknightmy bad
00:13.47kergoth:)
00:13.50ckknightdesigners and programmers
00:13.52kergoththat is nice indeed
00:14.19ckknightyea, same here
00:14.27ckknightmine are always hyperminimalistic
00:14.37ckknightwhich is nice for some people, but not all
00:14.44ckknightalso, my font sizes are usually pretty big
00:14.49ckknightbut I'm not changing that
00:14.51hyperChipmunkwe hadn't noticed
00:14.54ckknight:-P
00:15.24hyperChipmunkon a 15 inch monitor, you have to scroll for every letter
00:15.27hyperChipmunkit's true
00:15.36kergothhehe
00:16.04ckknight...
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00:16.40netcursewe really need curse v3 auto resisable
00:16.41cladhairehi tem
00:16.53netcursefor ppl with hight screen resolution :)
00:16.55kergothi finally remembered some of my old todo list items, hurray
00:16.56Temhey clad
00:19.01kergothhttp://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/kergoth/341493/#section.tasks <-yay, stuff
00:19.05kergothnow to remember the others :\
00:37.43TemhyperChipmunk: whatever happened to the time-to-victory display in BatFu for AB?
00:38.00hyperChipmunkit got ignored when I got lazy
00:38.13Tem<PROTECTED>
00:38.20hyperChipmunkI'm going to try to get it out tomorrow
00:38.24hyperChipmunkor tonight
00:38.35hyperChipmunkI was actually just cracking it open for a look
00:41.02kergothugh, i wanted to go out tonight, see x3 and such, but i only drank one mt dew today
00:41.10kergothcrazy caffeine withdrawl, about to fall asleep on the keyboard :P
00:41.42Industrialis mt dew like red bull?
00:41.52Industrial(we dont have that stuff here)
00:42.19kergothnah its more of a soda rather than an energy drink, just has a fair bit of caffeine. more on par with jolt, if you have that there
00:42.56Industrialnope
00:43.22Industrialbull-it has 2-4 cups of coffee on caffine, and taurine.. whatever :P it just tasted great *cough*
00:44.21CodayusMt Dew is a little bit more caffinated that Coke, and has a vaguely citrus taste.  It's very much a normal soda, not an energy drink.
00:44.50Industrialk
00:46.19Industrialdoodeedoo
00:46.27CodayusIt's quite sweet.  I used to drink a lot of it.
00:46.32CodayusThen I tried Vault.  :-)
00:49.57IndustrialBull-it tastes like... i dunno.. candy..
00:50.15Industriallolypop :P
01:19.22TainBlazing Saddles is on.  This is the best movie.
01:21.50snurregotta love raiding on PTRs
01:21.56snurreraid leaders are Roflmage and Omgrogue
01:24.50hyperChipmunkhehe
01:26.01Industriallol
01:26.20snurre<-- maintank, a.k.a. Captainaggro :p
01:26.39snurreim soo gonna get my warr renamed to that at next migration :p
01:32.05TemI have a female gnome alt warrior named Maintank
01:36.15cladhaireDoes anyone have a very simple FauxScrollFrame example?
01:44.30ckknightcan't have Captain in your name
01:44.39ckknightviolates naming policy
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02:02.11snurreckknight: i know that.. i know that very well :p
02:04.03snurreLOL
02:04.10snurredied in naxxramas, respawned at crossroads
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02:10.45Tekkubfucking suckup kid
02:11.03Tekkubfinds out I'm the one taking care of the pool... "oh I like your car!  Do you race it?"
02:11.06Tekkub*eyeroll*
02:11.22snurreomg, speaking of suckups
02:11.34snurreone of the new guys starting at our office today
02:12.24CIA-1703lordrhys * r2141 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
02:12.36snurrecame up to me asking "are you that snurre? omgz Ive heard about you, played on your realm for a while and there was lots of talk about you".. i had to evacuate the room, was really creepy :(
02:13.01Tekkubstalker!
02:13.26snurreyeah, i fear so
02:14.01snurrenot like he was the first one to know who i was and stuff, but it felt so damn creepy.. think he was the stalker-type
02:14.44ckknightstep one: request blowjob
02:14.47ckknightstep two:
02:14.51ckknightstep three: profit!
02:15.02snurreno bj plx
02:15.18snurreunless it's a female
02:15.46cladhaireckknight: I tend to offer blowjos.. I've found i make more money that way
02:15.46cladhaire*shrug*
02:16.36ckknightI know I've fucked and sucked my way to the top
02:17.01snurrethat's just fine as long as you're female. Nobody's gonna hold that against you then.. if you're a male stalker, however... i doubt the reactions will be as positive
02:17.10Tekkubyea, "hey can I stick my thingie in you and you give me cash" rarely works unless you're like, horse-hung
02:17.25cladhairesnurre: I dont need to stalk
02:17.31cladhairesnurre: They come flocking =)
02:17.38Tekkub*eyeroll*
02:17.45snurreagain, connected to the female part :p
02:18.08TainI could use money.
02:18.13snurreyes, same
02:18.22snurrejust finished my apartment, im almost broke :(
02:19.02snurretoo bad game companies pay shit wages until you're in the top management
02:19.47cladhaireTekkub: *vomit*
02:20.19Tainumm.. I thought it was spit or swallow, vomit isn't a good option.
02:20.40CodayusFYI - char copy page seems to be working just at the moment.
02:21.10TainHoly crap
02:21.13TainThank you Codayus
02:21.17TainI've been trying for days
02:21.32TekkubI honestly don't get people that spit
02:21.38snurreomg, gogo! that's like a windows ME station that can run more than 1h without BSOD; once in a lifetime oppertunity!
02:21.41CodayusI've been trying ever hour or two while at my comp since the PTR went up...
02:21.43Tekkubthey always use the excuse of taste....
02:22.02Tekkubya don't taste much when ya swallow...
02:22.07Tekkubbut anywho...
02:22.26cladhaireTekkub: Swallowing just makes you taste it twice
02:22.30cladhaireany girl worth her salt will tell you that.
02:23.05Tekkub*shrug*  swallow == quick motion.. spit == hold on to it in your mouth for a while...
02:23.07TainI don't have actual experience so I can't say, I just always thought spitting means you get the taste longer.
02:23.18Tekkubme to Tainy
02:23.26Tekkubkinda like snowballing....
02:23.34ckknightI don't understand spitting either
02:23.49CodayusThis is a pretty wierd conversation, really...
02:23.52TainBut I'm not about to argue that specific point.
02:24.06TainReally if it gets there my concern with it has just passed.
02:24.07snurreweird? no. interesting? not really :p
02:24.20snurrespeaking of interesting though, I need more beer
02:24.31CodayusThat doesn't sound very interesting either...
02:24.41TainI'm watching Numb3rs.  I do like this show.
02:25.09Tekkubgot a direct link to the char copy page?
02:25.13TekkubI can't find it... :P
02:25.18Taintest.worldofwarcraft.com/us/copy/character-copy.html
02:25.25Tekkubdomo
02:25.28TainBam.
02:25.31CodayusTain: Copy work?
02:25.44TainWorked for me! Well, didn't give me errors and appeared to complete the process.
02:25.49CodayusYeah.
02:25.50TainI hvaen't tried to actually log into ptr to see.
02:26.02CodayusA couple hours ago, the PTR didn't have a queue...
02:26.13Tekkubah still only premades?  I already copied one of thems
02:26.13CodayusNow that the copy page is temporarily working, it's 1200...
02:26.19CodayusTekkub: Yes
02:26.25snurretest.worldofwarcraft.com/en/copy/character-copy.html \o/
02:26.28CodayusI've been trying to get a premade for AGES...
02:26.34Codayus*mutter*
02:26.49CodayusI'd rather have my real priest though.  :-)
02:28.10snurreyeh, wtb my warrior for PTR
02:28.18snurresucks that only US chardb is used
02:31.31TekkubOMFG!
02:31.43Tekkubthe furries found Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
02:31.59TekkubI just found Eduardo pornzorz
02:33.11cladhairehttp://www.xtube.com
02:33.14cladhaireNSFW =)
02:35.46snurrelol
02:35.54snurreclad saved my day!
02:36.36cladhaire?
02:38.04TainFree porn?
02:38.55cladhairelots of free porn
02:39.40TainI will look!  I also like http://www.myfreepaysite.com - it is free and lots of porn!  INcluding lots of live web cams.
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02:49.18Tekkuberf
02:52.21Tainunf
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03:01.30TainOh crap I have a sort of "blind" date with someone in uh.. 13 hours.
03:03.22hyperChipmunkgg
03:04.57Industrialnn
03:05.09Tainunf unf
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03:22.05CodayusHmm, the premade priest (at least the alliance one) comes with a 31 disc/20 holy build.  Heh
03:22.20CodayusThat's a bit...random...
03:30.41hastecladhaire: I did warn you tho' ;)
03:30.47hasteabout the RSS
03:30.51cladhairei know you did
03:30.52cladhaire*shrug*
03:30.59Tekkubhttp://www.beyondgrandpa.com/drtran/main.html
03:31.03Tekkub~dr. tran
03:31.05purlHickory smoked is so crazy what's wrong with you!?
03:32.26cladhairei dont give a shit tho =)  I have a password.
03:33.01hastehaha :p
03:33.11hastedoes CIA-17 still work tho'?
03:34.10cladhaireyeah
03:34.11cladhaireof course
03:34.26TekkubHOT DICKINGS!
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03:34.54hasteyay, 'cause that's the RSS I'm using ;D
03:35.21Tekkubfrom a cup!
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03:35.26Amadeo_hola
03:35.37Amadeo_Industrial: the idChat addon for removing buttons doesn't work!
03:38.48TekkubWhy don't you leave me ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:38.57gnorlishneed my svn fix :(
03:39.03gnorlishi feel out of date to the extreme
03:40.01Tekkubhttp://media.putfile.com/Dr-Tran-in-Roybertitos
03:42.56Tekkubthat was... creepy...
03:43.05Tekkubdamn spanishians
03:44.05Tekkubhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJWPCpdpfdQ
03:44.10TekkubOH noes!
04:08.25cladhairenight all
04:08.27cladhaireheaded to bed
04:08.45TekkubHOT!!!!
04:08.48TekkubDICKINGS!!!!
04:08.55Tekkubbluh
04:09.04TekkubI should go take a shower and go to bedh tew
04:12.12CIA-1703cladhaire * r2142 10/branches/Clique/ (6 files): Clique: My code does nothing.. but it will =)
04:23.52hyperChipmunkwhat, praytell, is Clique?
04:37.19ckknightclick-casting
04:37.23ckknightand/or hot dickings
04:41.37Tekkubcilck-dicking?
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04:53.24Codayushmmm
05:06.38haste"Error: An error occured."
05:06.53hastehow to make debuging hard.
05:21.21CodayusI've seen worse error messages....
05:21.27CodayusError:  Success
05:21.30CodayusThat's always good...
05:22.29hasteI'm found of: Error: no error
05:51.15hyperChipmunkI love Error:Success
05:51.22hyperChipmunkand you see that one a disturbing number of times
05:52.18ThianaHmm, svn is still down?
05:57.51hyperChipmunkmassmail portion of CT_MailMod, without localization strings: 1299 lines
05:58.10hyperChipmunkentirety of BulkMail: 680
05:59.50hyperChipmunkand mine's readable =x
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06:51.11kergothhyperChipmunk, its the nature of errno.  if anything gets called that touches it, in any way, shape, or form, between your error occurring and you outputting it, itll reset it back to success (assuming that subsequent call didnt fail as well)
07:10.51kergothhttp://kergoth.com/vim_002.png
07:11.03kergothnew file explorer, tree based, quite nice
07:11.05kergoth:)
07:11.51kergothIndustrial, <phrakture> i got an email the otherday that ended in "Thanks alot:wq"
07:14.41hyperChipmunktoh handy
07:14.52hyperChipmunkhahahah
07:15.08hyperChipmunkI've :wq'ed in here before
07:15.10kergothhehe. me too
07:15.19hyperChipmunkdid it just yesterday i think
07:15.26kergothi hate it when i try to :wq to quit a firefox browser tab though :(
07:16.19hyperChipmunkoh, hm
07:16.23hyperChipmunkI've never :wq'ed
07:16.31hyperChipmunkbut I've got two instances in my logs of me :q'ing =P
07:16.42kergothhehe
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07:40.29Malkuthmorning
07:43.56Malkuthdon't suppose anyones awake to be able to answer a coding question ?
07:44.21MoonWolfim awake.
07:46.06MalkuthOk, the mod im working on, if someone sends me a whisper with the right command, they get text back, what im trying to do, is hide that response from my screen so I dont get spammed (hell id prefer to hide it both coming in and out tbh)
07:46.30MoonWolfhmmm
07:46.32Malkuthbut mainly out
07:46.32MoonWolfnot a clue.
07:47.41Malkuthnow I know how to do it one way which is you (think its called hooking) hook the chatframe_Onevent, and if it has your response you dont pass it on, least thats how it seems to work on some other mods
07:48.12Gngskright
07:48.35MoonWolfhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvmt4H3Ikw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Evideosift%2Ecom%2F%3Fdomains%3Dwww%2Evideosift%2Ecom%26search%3Drobot%2Bchicken%26sa%3DSearch
07:48.37GngskI think you'd want to hook SendChatMessage() to keep it from showing up when you respond
07:48.40MoonWolfgo for it then.
07:49.03hastehaha :D
07:49.08hasteRobot Chicken <3
07:49.46MalkuthPre_ChatFrame_OnEvent = ChatFrame_OnEvent;
07:49.46MalkuthChatFrame_OnEvent = SOA_ELP_ChatFrame_OnEvent;
07:50.08Malkuthand if you want to send it though id use Pre_ChatFrame_OnEvent(event)
07:50.18Malkuthis how I did it in originally
07:51.00Malkuthhmm ill just have to try this variation in game and see if it tells me to die
07:52.09Malkuthis the ace way better for hooking in this example ?
07:53.25Gngskbest part about that robot chicken is the drummer boy dropping the sticks 3 times
08:01.17Malkuthok, if I hook ChatFrame_OnEvent and I check in its function for the event CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM do I still need to register the event ?
08:03.43Malkuthagain sorry about all the questions, and thanks for answering, saved me tearing my hair out
08:05.42MoonWolfone should never be sorry for asking sensible questions.
08:08.54Malkuthhehe now I just have to figure out if they are sensible or im missing something stupid :)
08:09.50MoonWolfsometimes people dont have your awnsers
08:10.00MoonWolffor instance, i have never used a single wow event in my life.
08:17.35Malkuthok im not sure where I read it, but im sure I read someone saying if for example ive got an option table called sdsOpt in the lua file sdsLocals.lua that its better to do something like:
08:17.56Malkuthlocal sdsOptions = sdsOpt
08:18.05Malkuthand use sdsOptions in my code
08:18.32Malkuthtrue ? and if so anyone know why ?
08:18.46MoonWolfit can save a lot of hassle, as long as you make sure you actually save it back when you are done.
08:20.40Malkuthok :)
08:21.12Malkuthany good place to read up on what a metatable is ?
08:21.27MoonWolfhttp://www.lua.org/pil
08:21.43Malkuthreading :)
08:25.35kergothhooray, new version of the gnu D compiler gdc.  now it supports the current D features, so i can actually use the language for an actual project instead of just toy code
08:25.57MoonWolfwhat will that project be ?
08:26.18haste*cough* svn -> zip with changelog *cough*
08:26.29kergothwell, i've been planning on doing a few fuse filesystems (filesystem in userspace)
08:26.56kergothand it was gonna be fastest to do in python, but slow, or time consuming to do in C, but perform fast.. D is a perfect fit for it, fast and quick development time
08:27.01kergothwill be fun to see how it goes
08:27.17MoonWolfi look forward to seeing it in action.
08:27.28kergoththe first one is a reimplementation of the old umsdos filesystem
08:27.55kergoththe deal where you could do unix like permissions and such on a dos media.  will be nice for usb storage cards, to have full perms in linux, but still interoperate with windows (naturally it doesnt see the extra stuff)
08:28.05kergothumsdos is no longer maintained, unfortunately
08:28.12MoonWolfhmm
08:28.18MoonWolfwould indeed be neat.
08:28.34kergothi get tired of not being able to have symlinks and such on my usb stick, and i really dont want to have multiple partitions on it
08:29.21kergothafter that itll be a filesystem for leaftag (http://www.chipx86.com/blog/?p=140)
08:29.24MoonWolftalking about that, someone needs to implement a filesystem designed for memorry sticks cards and the like.
08:29.30kergothhttp://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/kergoth/#section.tasks
08:29.41kergothdesigned in what way?
08:29.49MoonWolfto make more efficient use of the amount of reads/writes they are limted too.
08:29.53kergoththere are already extremely nice filesystems designed to run off of flash, doing wear leveling and everything
08:29.59kergothbut you cant run those on flash cards like that
08:30.04kergoththose cards dont give you low level access
08:30.13MoonWolfoh
08:30.17kergoththey implement their own wear leveling in hardware, and just give you block level access on top of that
08:30.28kergothand if you run one wear leveling scheme on top of another, you just wear it down faster instead of slower
08:30.31MoonWolfit yust feels silly formatting them as fat32
08:30.33kergothso we're stuck with vfat or ext2
08:30.49kergothif you're curious about such things, read up on jffs2
08:31.01kergothi know there's threads on the linux-mtd mailing list on the subject, it comes up periodically
08:31.18kergothdavid woodhouse rants at people about why jffs2 on CF cards is a bad idea on occasion
08:31.50MoonWolfah
08:32.08MoonWolfi figured it came with the whole embedded devices stuff.
08:32.17MoonWolfyou need to have storage of some kind
08:32.20MoonWolfflash is small.
08:32.25kergothits usually onboard flash or CF
08:32.33kergothor both :)
08:36.36kergothMoonWolf, what programming languages do you know?
08:37.37Malkuthtalk about technology moving on, work just sent me a replacement board for the test unit I have here, its the equivilant of a pentium pc, 128mb ram, 400mb hd, and connector sockets its 1 1/2" by 3" big (no hd its actually eprom (sure thats what they said it was, memory sucks)) it looks absolutly empty in the case
08:39.12kergothwhat device is that?
08:39.28Malkuththe company I work for makes time servers
08:39.50kergothheh, one of my pdas has a 2 gig hd and a 450mhz xscale.  its craziness
08:40.01kergothcool
08:40.15Malkuthultra thin rackmount case, and its mostly empty
08:40.22Malkuthbecause the board is so small
08:40.26Malkuthseems such a waste
08:40.35kergothrackmount? you'd think they would go with itx or something for a board like that
08:40.49Malkuthwe have smaller units
08:41.00kergothah.
08:41.04Malkuthbut most of the buyers want units to go into their rack mounts
08:41.15Malkuthand think size is important
08:41.16kergothwhat OS is on these?
08:41.17Malkuthhehe
08:41.21Malkuthunix
08:42.00kergoth"unix" doesnt say much.  no such thing anymore. pick one :)
08:42.09Malkuthhave to admit I dont deal with that side of it, so no idea :)
08:42.17kergothah.
08:43.09kergothi've administered aix, hp/ux, digital unix, data general unix, sco openserver, sco unixware, sco xenix, solaris, linux, bsdi, openbsd...
08:43.11Malkuthmust be small, because the upgrade file, flashs the setup in under 20 seconds and you have a fresh install
08:43.47kergothprobably linux. not much else is suitable, unless its qnx.  but qnx wouldnt make much sense unless you have real time requirements
08:43.53Malkuthbut think that has more to do with the fact, its just flashing an eprom, dont quite understand the setup
08:44.03kergothit's more likely flash than eeprom
08:44.08kergothbut *shrug*
08:44.16kergothembedded work is fun
08:44.18Malkuthyour probably right :)
08:44.48MalkuthI just deal with the fun job of making in house analytical crap
08:44.56kergothi got started by maintaining an alternative distro / flash image for the sharp zaurus pdas
08:45.00kergothah, fun
08:45.03kergothheh
08:45.49Malkuthwell It has some advantages, I work from home, work when i like
08:46.11kergoththatd be nice.  cube farms are the devil
08:46.21Malkuthand bitch occasionally so they send me some new hardware just for the sake of it :p
08:47.25MalkuthI only have 6 pcs at home, so I really dont have the need for a full functioning time server, same one that we sold to nasdaq
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08:48.38Malkuthwife likes it though, it syncs her pc hehe
08:49.30Malkuththnkfully kergoth cube farms havent quite hit over here big time
08:50.00Malkuthand id prefer to keep it that way
08:51.40kergothhee
08:51.44kergoths/e$/he/
08:53.41Malkuthok ADDON_LOADED if I do a /console reloadui is that called ?
08:54.16Malkuthor is it called only when you first login (I assume its run on /console reloadui too) but just wanted to check
08:55.51Malkuthcrap im going to have to compare times
09:15.43Malkuthhmm Ive seen self.opt.fieldname = 1  and self.opt["fieldname"] = 1 used in various codes am I missing something or is it just up to yo which one you want to use ?
09:15.58kergothup to you, both are valid
09:17.29MalkuthI assume however if for eg your doing somethng like self.opt[arg2] when arg2 is the character name from chat, you cant do self.opt.arg2
09:17.32hyperChipmunkand equivalent
09:17.59kergothMalkuth, correct, because self.opt.arg2 isnt self.opt[arg2], its self.opt["arg2"]
09:18.10Malkuthas I thought thanks :)
09:18.45hyperChipmunkhow come we don't get more Malkuths asking questions in here
09:19.21hyperChipmunkgranted, he still needsa look at the topic
09:19.30hyperChipmunkbut he's not asking stupid questions
09:19.33MalkuthIve looked at the topic :)
09:19.45Malkuthbut my memory sucks :p
09:19.55Malkuthand tbh my biggist problem
09:19.58hyperChipmunknice thing about books
09:20.02Malkuthis the diferences in the language
09:20.09Malkuthbetween what I know and lua
09:20.14Malkuthits all so similiar but diferent
09:20.26hyperChipmunkwhat kinda addon you writing?
09:20.28Malkuthso I keep calling tables arrays
09:20.45MalkuthI long ago hacked a dkp bidding addon for my guild
09:20.51hyperChipmunkwell, just call arrays tables and you're set
09:21.02hyperChipmunkoh that would be neat
09:21.09hyperChipmunkautomated bidding
09:21.35hyperChipmunknobody will ever complain it's biased
09:21.37Malkuthbut im trying to tidy it up a lot, and put some of the bodge fixs I put in to my old code into the core of this one
09:22.00hyperChipmunkwere you the one looking for the item-link in command-line dealy?
09:22.22Malkuthie my guild we had a situation where the bid taker would have to leave midraid so we bodged a fix, so backer up bidtaker could transfer data accross
09:22.24Malkuthyes
09:22.50hyperChipmunkdid my addon help you? it really just passes everything as a string, and item lists are just specially formatted strings
09:22.56hyperChipmunks/lists/links/
09:23.26Malkuthaye, im going to use that code
09:23.26hyperChipmunkso it's just a matter of taking what you need from the string
09:24.00Malkuthbecause the main change I want to do, is at the moment the DKP bidding mod we use, isint tied to the dkp updating code hehe
09:24.33Malkuthit just knows how much dkp the person has, lets them bid up to that, and if they win stores a local win value, so they cant bid up to full ammount
09:24.36hyperChipmunksomeone's using my code!
09:25.08hastehaha hC :p
09:25.12Malkuthhehe
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09:26.14MalkuthI should read the lua page more, I do appologise for that, im just glad theirs a place I can ask my questions because tbh it seems very sparse out their sometimes
09:26.22hyperChipmunkyou don't understand...I am no longer merely a leecher
09:26.26hyperChipmunkthis is a big step!
09:26.35hyperChipmunki've contributed something to the community!
09:26.48Malkuthhyper, by defernition of making a mod others have used you have already done that
09:26.58hastedamn, that was a motivation maker / mood improver hyperChipmunk
09:27.00hyperChipmunkyea, but my mods blow goats
09:27.08hasteYou have t o do this more often
09:27.08Malkuthhehe compared to what
09:27.09hyperChipmunkheck yea, dude I'm fired up
09:27.27NeronixBulkMail doesn't blow goats
09:27.30Neronix:P
09:27.53Malkuthonly mod ive made so far that ive actually posted outside my guild is furbar_whispercast and im not even releasing that because its just embarssing hehe
09:27.54hyperChipmunkit's still got a ways to go
09:27.55kergothdamnit, i was gonna check auctions and go to bed, but got distracted by officer chat
09:28.20kergothi've never released an addon.  most of my code is generically useful tidbits that are independent of wow
09:28.39hyperChipmunkand Malkuth, to be honest, I'm happy to see your questions in here
09:29.10hyperChipmunkcuz they're not stupid ones and you've got the right attitude. I'll probably learn a lot from them
09:29.26Neronixomgwtf, people are actually d/ling NS now :O
09:29.34hyperChipmunkas opposed to the braincell-killing questions we're used to
09:29.34haste~pat Neronix
09:29.36purlACTION pats Neronix and says "Nicely Done!"
09:29.45kergothjust make sure you're at least willing to check the docs, or i may lose it
09:29.46kergoth:P
09:29.46NeronixAnd since FuBar's not changing at a crazy speed now, time to write NSFu
09:29.56hyperChipmunkalrighty, it's like 05:30
09:30.10hyperChipmunkeven though I'm all pumped up, gotta get some sleep
09:30.13hyperChipmunknight folks
09:30.17kergothnight
09:30.19MalkuthI always willing to check the docs :)
09:30.25Neronixnight
09:30.38Malkuthif I missed it and its clearly their just say rtfm :p
09:30.44kergothnothing annoys me more than someone who runs straight to irc without even /trying/ to find out
09:31.26kergothheh, once my boss at ti told me i should have prospective employers google for kergoth to see all the open source projects and involvement.  i decided against it due to the irc logs google pulls up of me berating some lazy noob who wouldnt rtfm
09:31.27kergoth:P
09:31.27Malkuthin my case I can honestly say, its usually I havent found it because Im using the wrong terminology
09:31.54Malkuthhehe
09:32.13Malkuthmy boss employed me because I was lazy, well to be exact
09:32.23kergoth~laziness
09:32.24purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
09:32.38Malkuthhehe exactly
09:33.25kergoth~impatience
09:33.27purlIMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer.
09:33.34kergoth~hubris
09:33.35purlHUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer.
09:34.11Malkuthmy only claim to really lazy fame though, was I was so fed up as a senior guide in eq of setting up the forum topics each week because their system so sucked, so created a pprogram you could setup once, click go, and it would set up your servers guide forum for the week
09:34.59Malkuththen my gm handed it out to everyone and I ended up dealing with tech support questions on the damn thing :/
09:35.30Malkuthto add new features etc
09:35.54Malkuthhave to admit one thing I do like about most ace mods, is they do whats on the tin, and dont try to do everything else under the son
09:35.58Malkuthsun
09:36.36Malkuth(well mistake their, ace ~= efficient code, but you know what I mean)
09:38.53Malkuthdamn, think im trying to be too clever here, and its going to be worse, *delete
09:39.01kergothmy laziness knows few bounds.  i'm a scripting madman.
09:39.15kergothsome of my sed scripts frighten even me
09:39.16kergothhehe
09:40.05Malkuthok yet another question, I have a lua file thats downloaded, has a list of all dkp values for all the players
09:41.28Malkuthbefore hand id use that for all sorting etc, and just save a local list of winners which I use to deduct points of their scores, so their actuall dkp on that raid remains accurate only showing available dkp
09:43.32Malkuthnow the idea I had, was to import the dkp table from lua page into a local table, and manipulate that direct
09:44.19Malkuthhowever I would need to have the ability to update data (ie someone added a raid to the dkp site because it had been missed) and not loose the local wins
09:44.41Malkuthjust trying to think on the best way of doing that :/
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09:56.41hasteckk is multiplying!
09:56.54ckknight_oh noes
09:57.08hastehow will this end!
09:58.51ckknight_our weapons have been destroyed?
09:58.57ckknight_well how shall we fight, then?
09:59.00ckknight_a battle of wits?
09:59.08ckknight_nay, we shall fight, with jazz!
10:00.51NeronixWhy jazz, when you can fight with hard rock?
10:00.53Malkuthlong as it isint freeform
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10:01.45hasteplaying: Machinae Supremacy - Through the looking glass (5:10)
10:03.17ckknight_mmm... Smashing Pumpkins
10:03.55kergothwelp, only thing i miss about ct_mailmod now that i'm trying bulkmail is the mass looting of the inbound mail button
10:05.04Malkuthif I have a table where on updating of the core data I do self.opt.dkpdata.wins = {} as I should only be doing that very rarly shouldnt be a large eneough hit to worry about should it ?
10:06.12Malkuthdamn forgot about that function kergoth, use it all the time
10:22.16Malkuthif winner["items"] doesn't exist will winner["items"]["itemname"] = 1 fail at the moment ive been checking for winner["items"] and if not doing winner["items"]={} ?
10:23.15Malkuthhmm
10:23.38MoonWolfthese are questions awnsered best by testing it yourself.
10:24.20Malkuthwill do, im just checking another page, to see if its answered in every example they declare it, so im assuming yes
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11:09.09MalkuthThanks moonwolf, I think ill call my coding there today, ive already reached my, "not another question" quota
11:09.33Malkuththanks again all for the advice/answers
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11:54.39Shyvamorning guys
11:55.39MoonWolfmorning
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12:25.13TainHow to destroy the Earth - http://qntm.org/destroy
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12:57.04Shyvacool stuff Tain ^^
13:08.59Industrialsomeone had too much time on his hands
13:09.00Industrial:P
13:10.49TainThere was also a link to the Evil Overlord list which is a wonderful classic, if you've never read it.
13:10.53Tainhttp://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
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13:17.04Elkanockknight, are you physicaly available?
13:22.11IndustrialElkano: lol?
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13:22.26Elkanowell, it seems like he isn't ^^
13:22.38IndustrialElkano: showing gratitude for what he does is one thing.. :P
13:23.07Elkano:|
13:26.12TainComedy gold.  http://youtube.com/watch?v=YcWXL8jpFGs&search=guild%20wars
13:32.11NeronixThat wins xD
13:32.57NeronixThe end too, soley for the bg music from ff6
13:34.01Industrialdamn
13:34.05Industrialdidnt know GW looked that good
13:34.44Industrialwtf@ same dances btw
13:35.20maiaseems as if they copied as much as possible from wow.
13:35.44NeronixThat reminds me
13:35.55TainCosmetic stuff, gameplay isn't all that similar.
13:35.57Industrialit does look a hell of a lot better then wow
13:36.01Neronixthere's this flash movie that's a parody of the final boss battle in ff6
13:36.03Industrialall the models
13:36.04Industrialwow
13:36.05Industrial..
13:36.15Neronixwith every console ever as the party, and the psp as kefka
13:36.22Neronixand I can't remember what it's called >.<
13:36.46Industrialoh yeahi was ack on irc because...
13:36.52IndustrialWhat professions bring in money?
13:36.57Industrialmining+herbalism?
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13:37.26TainIt's easiest to do mining or herbalism and skinning.
13:37.36Industrial(I think its good that gathering in games always pays off more)
13:37.39Neronixdon't do mining and herbalism at once
13:37.44Industrialwhy not
13:37.44TainBecause then you don't have to switch back an forth tracking
13:37.48Neronixcan't have both find skills at once
13:37.54Industrialah
13:38.01Neronixand skinning's ridiculously easy to level up while you level
13:38.07NeronixI'm only lv40 and I have 270 skinning :P
13:38.11Industrialwell.. herbalism sellf for rediculous prices right?
13:38.19Neronixso I heard
13:38.23TainIt can, so can mining.  
13:38.27Industrialherba+skinning it is
13:38.41Industrialgot this very cute mage girl ^_^
13:38.56NeronixA ha! found it!
13:38.56TainThere's more demand for ore/bars than for herbs, so there's a potentially more consistent market.
13:38.56Neronixhttp://www.dontpressstart.com/pro/SF6/
13:39.08TainBut it really depends on the server.
13:39.42Elkano20 bronce bars for 1g50 if you're lucky :) ~80s normaly
13:43.58Industrialhmm smelting levels mining too right... and you find gems...
13:44.29NeronixSmelting doesn't level much at all
13:44.31Neronixunless it's gold :P
13:44.39Neronixhelps you get high enough for mithril
13:44.53TainYeah smelting only helps for a very few levels
13:45.15Elkanobut it's depressing having 229 standing before truesilver :/
13:45.46Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/bg/WoWScrnShot_052606_204104.jpg
13:45.48Industrialhuzzah!
13:46.04CIA-1703maia * r2143 10SmartRes/ (6 files): SmartRes: completely new attempt, couldn't find bug in first version.
13:46.15IndustrialTain: know you dont feel like it anymore but: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/errors/WoWScrnShot_052706_000135.jpg
13:46.39Industrialand my mage: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/views/WoWScrnShot_052706_153846.jpg
13:46.43Industrial:D
13:47.22TainDo'nt know where that would come from, Visor doesn't use Timex at all.
13:47.29Neronixhttp://www.dontpressstart.com/pro/SF6/ - No, RLY! Watch it!
13:47.45NeronixIf you want the funnyness, watch the battle scenes
13:48.06IndustrialTain: i know :D
13:48.08Industrial:S
13:50.18maiacan anyone who's planning to run a raid this weekend and who's playing a resser class test SmartRes for me?
13:50.50maiait's a tiny addon that will attempt to res people in range and announce via /say, plus skip ppl who are being ressed by others this moment.
13:51.29maiaI won't see MC/BWL/AQ before mid-may, so any testing is appreciated.
13:57.19hasteIndustrial: that error is posted on the Timex forum also
13:58.16Industrialhaste: k
13:58.28IndustrialHm, i feel like using my fishing macro again
13:58.29Industrial:P
13:58.43hastefishing.. macro.... bot?
13:58.55Industrial:>
13:59.36hasteincoming ban!
13:59.47Shyvacould anyone help me with this please: http://ace.pastebin.com/741170
14:01.19hasteextend the sort functio fry gave you :o ?
14:01.22haste(I hate sorting)
14:01.34Shyvafry's thingie didn't work... :-(
14:01.44Shyvaand I fail at sorting tables :-/
14:03.18ShyvaI hope FryGuy can make a working one for me once ^^
14:03.33hastetable.sort(t, function(a,b) return a<b end) << explains it good enough?
14:05.55Lucentable.sort(t, function(a,b) return a[2]< b[2] end) << I think it'd be this for that data set
14:06.27ShyvaThanks lucen, will try it now
14:07.04Lucennot absolutely sure though, check out oRA_Durability or oRA_Resist for different examples
14:07.18hasteLucen: status? ;)
14:07.28Lucenunit frames?
14:07.40hasteh-ai~
14:07.52Luceneh..i'm getting bored sadly
14:07.57Lucenthe frames are all done pretty much
14:08.01Lucenjust the options now
14:08.13hastesame as me then, options aren't very motivating to do
14:08.19Lucenso true
14:08.26hastesince... it's many of them, and I'm already satisfied
14:08.39Lucenhehe..yeah..that's my problem
14:08.51Shyvayou rock Lucen ! Thanks :-D
14:08.51Luceni don't need any options beyond the ability to hide the frames
14:09.01Lucennp shyva
14:10.21hasteI don't need any options beyond what's already coded :<
14:10.24hasteie. the frames
14:10.34Lucenya
14:10.41hasteI'm unsure if I should add the string system again tho'
14:10.49Luceni'm not :x
14:10.58hasteI'm thinking of just adding options
14:11.09hastecba to support people who can't read :(
14:11.11Lucenya that's what I was thinking too
14:12.41hasteI ended up using dewdrop tho'
14:12.52hastesince it basicly has everything I needed
14:14.42Luceni saw the ss, i'm trying not to steal your idea though :P
14:15.19hastehehe
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14:36.53NeronixBest recycle bin sound ever: Strong Bad shouting "Deleted!" complete with the buzzer
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14:56.16Neronixhaste: Little request for oUF2, if it isn't too big of a problem
14:56.30hasteshouldn't be
14:56.33NeronixVariable frame widths please :)
14:56.51hasteI'm thinking of it
14:56.59NeronixI found the original ones far too wide, and I almost messed things up when I tried visor hax
14:57.15hastemight be 'cause the bars has a fixed width :p
14:57.28Neronix:P
14:57.40hasteI can't promise anything for a first release tho' :<
14:57.47Neronixit's cool
15:02.17NeronixHmm, why did mages need an overhaul?
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15:08.08TainTo address the issues.
15:48.08maiaanyone who can give me a simple explanation to OOP in ace by taking a look at the 10 lines of code at http://ace.pastebin.com/741274 ?
15:48.52maiaI think I understand the basic concept of OOP now, but I'm still not sure how the implementation should look.
15:53.37maiahrm, guess I'm talking to myself and everyone is asleep.
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16:17.38hyperChipmunkmornin' Cairennator
16:19.25Cairennhey hyperChipmunk
16:22.44maiacry.
16:22.56Cairenn?
16:24.00Elkanoho Cairenn :)
16:24.01maiatrying to understand OOP. and stuff like  kitty = new:Cat()  are just a bit too far away from wow for me. I don't know how to transfer that to wow lua at all.
16:24.06Cairennhey Elkano
16:24.34maiaor Cat:new(), whatever ;)
16:25.16Elkanowell, new Cat() will most likely become Cat:new() ;)
16:25.27maiahrm.
16:26.32maiaretry. the following is functional code I guess:  function GetClass(unit) local _,class = UnitClass(unit)  return class end. how would it look in OOP?
16:27.36maiaor somewhat more ace-like: http://ace.pastebin.com/741274
16:29.25Elkanowell, I think that it's already OOP... at least to some extend...
16:29.54maiahm. if I'd have 'unit' as class, I guess I could do something like unit.GetClass(), right?
16:30.04maiaand this would be more OOP I guess.
16:30.52Elkanoso you would have sth like Raid:GetUnit(name):GetClass() ?
16:31.22maiaI guess so?
16:31.51Elkano(I'm not that good wrt OOP and WoW :/ )
16:32.22maiaI don't really know what it would look like, but I assume a function that will get a class for a unit should somehow be a child of unit, instead of a normal function GetClass(unit).
16:33.42maiaI'd want to have functions like: unit:AddToRoster(), unit:RemoveFromRoster(), unit:Update() but also frame:Update(), frame:Destroy() etc.
16:33.56Elkanoin this case I think you would have to build a factory returning unit objects that offer you such funtionality
16:34.49maianow I'm even more confused. a 'factory returning unit object'. hm.
16:34.57Elkanobut I don't know how this will impact performance and memory :/
16:37.45Elkanowell, to be able to do a GetClass() on your unit, you will need an object that offers that functionality. and every unit of the raid will have to offer this so you need sth tht given an identifier like raid1 will return a unit object with such a functionality
16:38.11Elkano(I may be totaly wrong but to me it sounds logical...)
16:38.37maiaoh, I see.
16:39.18maiaguess I'll stick to functional programming.
16:39.50maiano new cat.
16:41.14ElkanoI've done the same until now ^^
16:42.20Elkanobut you can mix some of the asspects into eachother like you have done in the code snipet... having test:GetClass(name) also is somehow OOP
16:42.21maiawell, I gotta go. thanks, Elkano.
16:42.31Elkanoyou're welcome :)
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17:08.29hastenice!
17:08.33hastejava just made a fork!
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17:09.05Malkuthwhy not a spoon ?
17:09.12haste:<
17:09.39Malkuthsorry been one of those days, coded all morning then had my 3 hours of shading done on a tattoo and it hurt like buggery hehe
17:10.03Malkuthso my sense of humour may not be funny *tm
17:11.43Elkanodid I hear fork? http://www.deviantart.com/view/23149690/
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17:31.58Amadeo-Probably the best PvP video I've ever seen, including the concept of PvP matches
17:31.59Amadeo-http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=21300
17:34.59Amadeo-but his UI sucks
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17:47.44CIA-1703hyperactiveChipmunk * r2144 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua BulkMail.toc BulkMailLocals.lua CHANGELOG):
17:47.44CIA-170.5.1:
17:47.44CIA-17- Bag ID off-by-one error fixed; the leftmost bag should now be recognized
17:47.44CIA-17- Significantly optimized the generation of item lists when typing a name into t
17:47.44CIA-17he To: field
17:47.45CIA-17- You can now no longer add items to the AutoSend list without an explicit desti
17:47.46CIA-17nation when no default destination has been set
17:58.58hyperChipmunki like the new web interface
17:59.05hyperChipmunkit's blazing fast
17:59.12hyperChipmunkgj clad|sleep =D
17:59.20Amadeo-just says index for me :(
17:59.36hyperChipmunkhttp://svn.wowace.com/root
17:59.37hyperChipmunk=)
18:00.09Amadeo-hacks!
18:00.36hyperChipmunkthx cai
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18:01.26Amadeo-<3 clad
18:01.33Amadeo-thanks hyperChipmunk :)
18:02.04Cairennwelcome
18:02.13NeronixJava forked!?
18:02.14Cairennimma try it out, even
18:02.19hyperChipmunkactually, I think that was always there; but now the other crap isn't, so that actually goes reasonably fast
18:02.21Amadeo-I think I'm gonna go get some exercize, but don't tell anyone, it might ruin my reputation
18:02.25NeronixI'm not much of a codet, but I know that's a big deal
18:06.09Neronixhm, false alarm
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18:24.14hastehyperChipmunk: that isn't the "web-interface". :p
18:24.21hasteit's always been there tho'
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18:39.51hyperChipmunk=)
18:39.55hyperChipmunkit's blazing fast, though!
18:40.11hyperChipmunkand it's A web interface
18:43.28kergothhyperChipmunk, when you check out an svn repo using http://, its just a webdav interface to the repository.  so thats the exact same web interface svn itself uses
18:43.33kergoth:)
18:45.26hyperChipmunkshush
18:45.29hyperChipmunkit's fast
18:45.37hyperChipmunklet me tease the dude, kay?
18:45.49hyperChipmunkyou pedants are no fun
18:47.02Industrialsdfg
18:47.06Industrialjust wanted to pm him
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18:47.09Industrialah
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19:12.02Amadeo-Hey Industrial
19:12.12Amadeo-the button removal addon isn't working :(
19:18.52hyperChipmunkyo Teminator
19:19.37Temrawr
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19:29.03NeronixhyperChipmunk: Is there going to be an open-all-mail button in bulkmail?
19:31.19kergothaw, sortenchant is erroring :9
19:31.58hyperChipmunkfirst things first
19:32.19hyperChipmunkI've got improvements planned for that aspect of things, too
19:34.10NeronixI see
19:35.02kergothyay
19:35.15kergothclicking on all those mails is just way too much work for my lazy ass
19:35.54hyperChipmunk=P
19:36.01hyperChipmunkyou can still use mailmods's
19:36.03Neronix~laziness
19:36.05purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
19:36.18Gngskan inverse would be nice, like open all unclicked
19:37.34hyperChipmunki never realized how way-overdone those addons were until i compared; BulkMail in its entirety is less than half the size of just the MassMail portion of MailMod, without localization
19:37.55kergothhmm, i seem to remember seeing mail looting addons on the wowace forums at some point
19:37.58kergothwonder if any are usable
19:38.13hyperChipmunkthought tem had something or another
19:38.14GngskAHMailCollect?
19:38.16NeronixI could ninja CT's code and make it standalone :P
19:38.24hyperChipmunkCT's is standalone
19:39.08hyperChipmunkthere are instructions in the BulkMail comments on using its inbox code with BulkMail
19:39.08Neronixtrim it down and change the xml into lua that's only generated once the mailbox is opened the first time in a session
19:39.14NeronixAh
19:39.16hyperChipmunkit's already separate files
19:39.27kergothhmm, i need to make use of bulkmail's autosend feature some
19:39.31hyperChipmunkyou just change the toc to not include it, and include the localization
19:39.39kergothstart shoveling stuff at my auction house mule
19:39.41hyperChipmunksince the localization is in the massmail file
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20:11.30hastefinally, after a overdose of espresso - my mind works again!
20:28.56Industrialhaste: have some time now?
20:28.58Industrialeh? eh?
20:30.30kergothIndustrial, http://kergoth.com/vim_002.png
20:30.30hasteI'm still poking this
20:30.36kergothIndustrial, check out the file explorer i'm using
20:30.38Industrialhaste: oki
20:30.54Industrialnice kergoth
20:31.26pagefaultdamnit
20:31.30pagefaultyou have to share that vim setup
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20:31.52kergothpagefault, svn co http://kergoth.com/svn/homefiles :P
20:32.14pagefaultthx
20:32.28kergothhell, theres even a trac for it :) http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/timeline
20:32.35haste:o
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20:37.49ckknighthey all
20:37.56hastehello ckk
20:45.30hyperChipmunkthink TTV is ready in batfu
20:45.43hyperChipmunkgonna test it next match
20:47.07hasteTTV?
20:47.26hyperChipmunkTime-To-Victory
20:47.32hastemeep meep
20:55.26hyperChipmunkckknight: is there a way to add just a default-formatted line to a tablet w/o creating a category for it, or like a Title thing?
20:58.34ckknighthow do you mean?
20:58.47ckknightjust have tablet:AddCategory():AddLine(...)
20:59.04hyperChipmunkk, that's how I did it
21:04.20hyperChipmunkwell, I did tablet:AddCategory(...):AddLine()
21:04.40hyperChipmunkbecause i want it header-white, not yellow
21:05.34ckknightso you set 'textR', 'textG', etc.
21:05.41hyperChipmunknope, just text
21:05.41ckknighthrm
21:05.53ckknightyou could just do tablet:AddCategory(...)
21:05.58ckknightdon't need the :AddLine() bit
21:06.20hyperChipmunkyea, or it doesn't show one; I tried it
21:06.31ckknightthen that's a bug
21:06.33hyperChipmunktablet:AddCategory('text', "LOLLIPOPS"):AddLine() works
21:06.39ckknightoh
21:06.42ckknightI know why
21:06.46ckknightit doesn't show blank categories
21:06.47hyperChipmunktablet:AddCategory('text', "LOLLIPOPS") doesn't
21:06.48hyperChipmunkright
21:06.54ckknighthang on...
21:07.43ckknightjust use tablet:AddCategory():AddLine('text', "LOLLIPOPS', 'textR', 1, 'textG', 1, 'textB', 1)
21:08.52hyperChipmunkk
21:14.30Codayushmm, 5k queue on the ptr
21:14.36Codayusbah.  hax, I tell you
21:15.06hyperChipmunkon saturday evening? i don't believe you
21:16.28CodayusHmm, no queue on the rppvp side.  Not that I can test most of the stuff I need to there on a lvl 1 alt.
21:16.50CodayusSeriously, I think bliz really messed up the char copy stuff...  :-)
21:17.23Codayuswow...I've never seen so many corpses before
21:17.50CodayusNorthshire valley on the rppvp ptr is *covered* in bodies
21:23.44CodayusHmm.
21:24.16CodayusCasting smite made me d/c
21:24.36Codayus"World server is down."
21:24.55CodayusWTF?  Please tell me casting smite didn't just crash the eastern continent.  oO
21:27.03hasteCodayus: it usually deletes random content.
21:27.18CodayusHmm, guess it was just odd timing.
21:27.26CodayusHmm, a *LOT* of my addons are a bit stuffed.  Blah
21:28.20Amadeo-man
21:28.28Amadeo-Playing a healing Priest is actually a lot of fun in PvP
21:28.35Amadeo-you just get no glory on the charts
21:29.28Amadeo-I love being able to somehow stay alive with 4 people on me
21:29.43Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/fun/WoWScrnShot_052706_012202.jpg
21:29.55liviuxgood evening to everybody
21:30.07Industriallo liviux
21:30.11IndustrialAmadeo-: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/bg/WoWScrnShot_052606_204104.jpg
21:30.16Industrial:P
21:30.39Amadeo-nice :)
21:30.49Amadeo-Industrial: Did you see what I said about the buttons!?
21:31.01IndustrialAmadeo-: yea
21:31.05Amadeo-ok :)
21:31.29liviuxabout what are you talking?
21:31.45Amadeo-liviux: Industrial's idChat addon
21:31.55Industrialone of my addons - its supposed to hide your chatframe buttons
21:32.14liviuxi'm lucky
21:32.23Industrial? :p
21:34.21liviuxnithing, nothing
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21:39.45Syzxis wowace svn down?
21:39.47Tekkuberf
21:39.55Tekkubthe web interface is
21:40.30clad|sleepthe web interface no longer exists.
21:40.35IndustrialAmadeo-: I'm adding readme's :P
21:40.36hyperChipmunkit rules
21:40.36cladhaireand won't be returning in that form.
21:40.40Syzx:<
21:40.42hyperChipmunkit's blazing fast now
21:40.48cladhaireSyzx: http://svn.wowace.com/root
21:41.31Syzxwow, thanks! :)
21:41.35Syzxthat'll do
21:43.01Tekkubwait a second...
21:43.10Tekkubdid Bushy finally realize he's a moron?
21:43.26hastecan't be
21:43.27Tekkubohly fuck, hell must have frozven over
21:44.12Tekkubhrm... hey claddo...
21:44.28Tekkubis there gonna be any tarball downloads or web view for changelogs at all?
21:44.38cladhaireTekkub: You can use CIA
21:44.43cladhairei'll work on getting something for tarballs.
21:44.45Tekkubcause uhm... I have lots of link floating around that are broken now ><
21:44.49cladhaireYeah i know
21:44.51cladhairei'll do what i can.
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21:45.01cladhairebut unless you want to take a stab at it its what we're stuck with at the moment =(
21:45.09TekkubI kinda relied on automatic changelog creation there :)
21:45.20TekkubI don't stab well
21:45.33TekkubI'm more of a gradual, well lubed impaling sort
21:46.33Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/
21:46.37Industrialadded readme's
21:46.46cladhaireTekkub: I promise i"ll try to work on it.
21:46.52Tekkub^^
21:47.04Tekkubchangelogs are the main thing, I'll look at CIA
21:49.19Codayuscladhaire: How much resources was the websvn stuff using?
21:49.32SyzxIndustrial what do you mean with: "Remove the /1, /2, /3, /4, /5, [Guild], etc tags replacing tem with /1: /2: /3: /4: /5: g: p: o: etc"
21:49.55CodayusHmm, my grammar are teh  poor.
21:49.56Tekkubhrm... I don't see search options on CIA, bugger
21:50.32cladhaireCodayus: A lot =)
21:50.38cladhaireCodayus: Much more than I was allocated
21:50.53cladhairebbias
21:51.02Tekkubit's all our commits isn't it?  the repo got big, fast
21:51.16TekkubI think it's the same thing we did to the opensvn repo :)
21:51.31IndustrialSyzx: where?
21:51.46Syzxhttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/IdChat_Addon
21:51.53Industrialah
21:52.01Industrialthat eeds to be deleted :<
21:52.17Industrialbut what i mean is that youll see [1] instead of [1. General]
21:52.22Codayuscladhaire: I'd be interested in seeing a ballpark figure on resource usage if it wouldn't be too much trouble - just when you get a chance.  :-)
21:52.27Industrialhavent made it yt
21:53.33Syzxis that mod customizable? i dont like the input box on top of the chatwindow :P
21:56.19IndustrialSyzx: actually it is ^^
21:56.28Syzxgood, then i'll dl it :)
21:56.32Industrialwait :>
21:56.55IndustrialIm busy with a new version, but im hosting it on my own webspace: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/
21:57.07Industrialfiletype is 7zip
21:57.23Tekkubhrm... so if my math is right... I have to dump half of that bucket of baking soda in the pool to get the alkalinity up where it's sposda be at
21:57.32Industrialyou can just download all of those except for idChatEditbox - wich does what you didnt like
21:57.37Tekkubthat's a lot of baking soda....
21:57.44cladhaireCodayus: i can't give you one, I dont have a way to do it.  We can't monitor our own, and the system uses "Cp's" which are a fictional unit.
21:57.53CodayusHmm, charming.  :-)
21:58.15cladhairethey include all disk/system/mysql usage
21:58.27CodayusWhat host?
21:58.30cladhairedreamhost
21:58.33CodayusAh.
21:58.51IndustrialQuestion, can i do:     if {'Hunter, 'Warlock'}[UnitClass('player')] then     ?
21:59.08Industrialjus for fun
21:59.10Codayuswhich package do you have?
21:59.10Industrial:P
21:59.18cladhaireCodayus: Its not listed.. I have a lot of everything =)
21:59.22CodayusAh, kk.
21:59.29cladhairethe cladhaire special
22:00.58gnorlishwhere can i get a query list for cia
22:02.52SyzxIndustrial that are a lot of 7z's, everything in a seperate folder :(
22:03.00ckknightIndustrial, yes, you could
22:03.11Industrialckknight: i tried and apparently not
22:03.15ckknightreally?
22:03.16ckknightweird
22:03.24ckknightalso, it's not localized
22:03.26IndustrialSyzx: Yes, so its easier to choose
22:03.30ckknightoh
22:03.34ckknightI know the issue
22:03.38IndustrialSyzx: these are minimal chunks of code tbh
22:03.54ckknightif {Hunter=1, Warlock=1}[UnitClass('player')] then ... end
22:04.01Industrialah
22:04.03Industrialbut
22:04.13SyzxIndustrial: yeah, why not put them in subdirectories under a folder idChat -.-
22:04.34Industrialif {'a','b','c'}['b'] then print('LOL') end
22:04.36Industrialdoesnt work
22:04.45IndustrialSyzx: becauseive just pulled them apart
22:05.23Syzxso you'll put them back together in a folder eventually?
22:05.30Industrialno
22:05.45Industrial(Whats the poblem btw)
22:06.08Syzxnot a problem, i like my addon folder nice and clean :p
22:06.30Industrial*shrug*
22:06.43Syzxye, i can sort them myself i guess :)
22:06.54Industrialreadme says so \o/
22:08.25cladhairea bunch of people requested access to the SVN
22:08.28cladhairei dont think they really need it
22:08.30cladhaireso i have to weed it out now.
22:08.57gnorlishi just want a way to get a trunk changelog :o
22:09.34Industrialcladhaire: just give it only if they add something
22:09.43cladhaireIndustrial: Yeah, but now i have to talk to them to see if they do =)
22:09.47cladhairei dont like talking to people
22:09.48Industrialhehe
22:09.50cladhairei'm making baked ziti
22:09.52cladhaireits almost done
22:09.54cladhairei'm excited.
22:10.00Industrialziti? -_^
22:10.01cladhairecause then i can start a game of dota, and eat
22:10.03cladhaireactually
22:10.08cladhaireits baked mini-penne
22:10.11cladhairebut who's counting.
22:10.17Industrialdota? -_^
22:10.21hyperChipmunkwc3
22:10.24cladhairewc3
22:10.33cladhairedamn you hc =)
22:10.37Industrial:p
22:10.38cladhaireanyone wanna play?
22:10.49Industrialdont have wc3
22:10.51gnorlishwhat version of dota
22:10.57cladhaire6.32
22:11.05cladhairethe latest
22:11.06gnorlishyou got a vent or ts server?
22:11.28cladhaireyeah but i can't get on vent atm
22:11.30cladhaireheadset broken
22:11.58cladhaireand i'm waiting for the ziti to be "take-out-of-the-oven-able"
22:11.59gnorlishit's kinda boring without being able to complain in vent
22:12.10cladhairelemme see if i can find a headset
22:12.13cladhaireare you on US east
22:12.15cladhaireazeroth?
22:12.21gnorlishyes i'm on useast
22:12.26cladhaire*cheer*
22:12.36cladhairewell lemme see what i can do
22:13.47Syzxhttp://www.wowace.com/?page=download 1.3.0 isnt the newest realease is it?
22:13.54gnorlishi'll be warming up.. i jus tstarted playing dota again for the first time in 3 years last week
22:13.56cladhairewtf.. i got ihnto an ap game instead of an ar
22:14.01cladhaireSyzx: Grab it from wowinterface
22:14.38cladhaireonly update was the toc.
22:14.51Syzxah, i was wondering what changed :)
22:14.57Temafas;df!
22:15.03cladhaireTem: NO WAI
22:15.05TemThe kill the emp quest in BRD is broken
22:15.23TemI'm really pissed
22:15.32TemI just spent 2 hours clearing to him and the quest bugged out
22:15.45TemA GM better fucking give me my ring and gold!
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22:30.12Tem|AFKcladhaire: zomg DOTA?
22:31.09netcursedota ftw
22:31.38cladhaire*nod*
22:31.42cladhairei got bounty hunter
22:31.46cladhaireand we fed right side.
22:31.50cladhaireso the necrolic is killing us
22:32.02hyperChipmunkTem|AFK: be happy; TTV in within the next hour or so
22:32.34Tem|AFKttv?
22:32.45hyperChipmunkTime to Victory
22:32.53hyperChipmunkAB
22:32.57Tem|AFKya
22:32.58Tem|AFKy
22:32.59hyperChipmunkyou asked about it yesterday
22:33.33hyperChipmunkI screwed up the last test by deleting the table of values and not noticing I deleted it
22:34.49Tem|AFKhehe
22:34.55Tem|AFKget on the PTR to test
22:35.02Tem|AFKAB queues are pretty much instant
22:35.04hyperChipmunkI can't
22:35.14hyperChipmunkpatch says it's already patched
22:35.15Tem|AFKoh right Linux hates the patcher
22:35.25hyperChipmunkeven though there's clearly no WoWTest directory
22:35.25Tem|AFKdamn, and I just got off the PTR
22:35.27hyperChipmunkyou suck nub
22:35.37Tem|AFKwell I'm going to my grandparents house with my rents
22:35.50Tem|AFKthey should be here to pick me up any minute
22:35.54hyperChipmunkwalk on their grass for me
22:35.59CodayusTem|AFK: About the emp quest - the princess bugged, right?
22:36.04Tem|AFKyeah
22:36.11CodayusIt appears to have something to do with distance from the emp.
22:36.12Tem|AFKbeen bugged a while aparently
22:36.36Tem|AFKwell, a GM better gimme my gold an my ring, else I'm gonna be pissed
22:36.43CodayusThe old tactic was to tank her was the hell down the hall so she doesn't heal the emp - but if she's that far away, it *seems* like she doesn't "see" the emp die.  Total suckage.
22:37.01Tem|AFKshe wasn't that far from the emp
22:37.01Codayuss/her was/her way/
22:37.05CodayusHmm
22:37.15CodayusBlah, guess it's a buggier bug than I realized.  :-)
22:37.26Tem|AFKdo you have any idea how hard it is to get a group to go that far in BRD in a raiding guild?
22:37.32Tem|AFK"wtf do you want in BRD, nub?"
22:37.40CodayusHeh, pretty easy in my guild.
22:37.47CodayusBut we're not too serious.
22:37.48SyzxIndustrial: idChat: if i switch to my combatlog tab and then back to my chat tab the buttons around the window appear again.
22:37.49Tem|AFKalliance or horde?
22:37.52CodayusAlliance.
22:37.55Tem|AFKoh
22:37.56Tem|AFKhmm
22:38.05Tem|AFKI dunno
22:38.07IndustrialSyzx: known, on my todo list - thanks tho
22:38.07Tem|AFKwe all hate BRD
22:38.14Tem|AFKI blame the ony questline
22:38.40CodayusI like that questline.  :-)
22:38.49hyperChipmunkit's fun...once
22:39.03CodayusIt helps if your a decent priest and know how to use Mind Control.  BRD is nicely abusbale.
22:39.32TekkubLava diving!
22:39.34CodayusMy brother and I duo all of BRD up to the chest of seven event for fun and cash.  :-)
22:39.45IndustrialSyzx: and it annoys me, so ill be fixing that soo
22:39.47Industrialsoon*
22:39.59Tem|AFKTekkub: yeah that's what we did
22:40.10Tem|AFKwe swam through the lava to the lyceum
22:40.14Tekkubhehe, I wonder if they'll ever find need to nerf that
22:40.19CodayusYeah?  I heard you could do that...never tried.
22:40.26Tekkubno I mean MC mob lava dives
22:41.09CodayusTekkub: Oh, I just meant abusing MC to make the dwarf pulls easy.  Kill annoying mobs, MC healers, pull bar patrons without aggro, etc.
22:41.41Tekkubbasically yea, make the mob dive into the lava and kill the other crap while you wait for him to respawn
22:42.22TekkubI'm sure you know all that, since you were implying tha you are a good priest
22:42.30CodayusI usually just MC a mob and let his friends kill him.  He doesn't respawn, and the priest gains zero hate.  <shrug>
22:42.39CodayusI know you CAN do it, but I never considered doing it in BRD.
22:42.41Tekkubyea that works too
22:42.47Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/idActionBar-11000-2.7z
22:42.50Industrialzing!
22:42.53CodayusIt's a fun tactic for the drak room pulls in UBRS though...
22:43.06CodayusBut I normally don't bother.
22:43.16hyperChipmunkhere we go
22:43.21hyperChipmunkmoment of troof
22:43.22Syzxwhat does that do Industrial?
22:43.24TekkubI've had a few times where the priest just said "you know, ya'all'd be better off if I was healing instead of waiting on MC, I'm making this one dive"
22:43.30hyperChipmunkyay for errorz
22:43.36IndustrialSyzx: readme ^^
22:43.37hyperChipmunknice, we win in -1d 7h 43m 17s
22:44.02Tem|AFK~seen maldivia
22:44.23purlmaldivia is currently on #wowi-lounge (9h 53m 56s). Has said a total of 29 messages. Is idling for 1m 48s, last said: 'Cide: you don't have enough ? :)'.
22:44.23Tekkub~seen X-men 3
22:44.25purli haven't seen 'x-men 3', Tekkub
22:44.26Tem|AFKoh?
22:44.26Tekkub*grin*
22:44.26Tem|AFKhow was it?
22:44.28SyzxIndustrial: k -.-"
22:44.34IndustrialSyzx: :p
22:44.35Tekkub~Dr. Tran
22:44.38purlHickory what? Smoked WHAT?!?!
22:44.38CodayusHmm, I might try that next time.  That could be really fun on that annoying pull in between the bar and the ambassasor
22:45.03CodayusAnyhow, what *I* want to know is - where exactly is the lava shortcut to the lycaeum?
22:45.54TekkubI like that they're removing the repop timers in instances and making GY zerg impossible :)
22:46.04CodayusExcellent changes.
22:46.22Tem|AFKhuh?
22:46.24Tekkubinstance repop timer made no sense anyway, you have people there to rez and you miss loot if you're not in the zone at time of kill
22:46.31Tem|AFKinstance repop timer?
22:46.35Tem|AFKI dun understand
22:46.39CodayusThere's no "5 minute to release" timer.
22:46.44TekkubTem: new PTR patch thing is gonna remove the timer on deat h in instance
22:46.51Tem|AFKoh, cool
22:46.51CodayusOnly in instances, yes.
22:46.55Tem|AFKoh, damn
22:47.02Tem|AFKthat makes checking for SS more complex
22:47.02Tekkuband at the same time, if you do release and run back mid-boss-fight you'll rez OUTSIDE
22:47.29CodayusWell, for some bosses, anyhow.
22:47.37CodayusI assume Ony will be one of them.
22:47.38Tekkubbasically they're loking zee fargate during boss fights
22:47.44CodayusHaving a nub zone in at the wrong time is always...fun...
22:47.53Tekkubkek
22:47.57Tem|AFKbur
22:48.31Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/idChatButtons-11000-2.7z
22:48.36IndustrialSyzx: fixed!
22:48.40IndustrialAmadeo_: fixed!
22:48.52TekkubMy cats: Fixed!
22:49.00Industrial:p
22:49.25Tekkubthe people at work think I'm insane now
22:49.53Industrialwhy
22:49.59Tekkubcause I told em how the pool guy taught me how to turn the chlorinator into a flame thrower and possibly even set the pool water on fire
22:50.12Industriallol
22:50.15Tekkubwell, he taught me how NOT to, but I'd just have to reverse that...
22:50.48TekkubI'm looking at this whole thing like one big chemistry lab.... where kids piss in the testtube...
22:51.01IndustrialxD
22:52.07Tekkubspeaking of, I need to go add more water, I backwashed the filters again this morn (and probably flooded the laundry room again... I'm such an ass ^^ )
22:52.19Tekkubbbiam
22:54.33Industrialmakes you feel less fat if you think of it as killing prey...
22:54.35SyzxIndustrial: <3 that was a quick fix ^^
22:54.44IndustrialSyzx: np
22:56.17SyzxThe mod Recap is dead isnt it, is there a succesor?
22:56.37Tainwow just tried out the new Consolas mono font from Office 2007.  It puts the ug in ugly.
22:56.59Industrialthats not really new
22:57.02hyperChipmunkworks!
22:57.04hyperChipmunkI saw that
22:57.06Industrialvista beta's had it
22:57.09hyperChipmunkit's like..gyah
22:57.19Industrialbut yeah its ugly
22:57.19hyperChipmunklooks fuzzy
22:57.29Industrialand calibri
22:57.33Industrialthats what Clearfont uses
22:57.36Industrial(the addon)
22:57.47CodayusSyzx: Recap seems to still work okay...but I'd recommend checking out SW_stats.
22:57.49hyperChipmunkTTV is IN >8D
22:57.55hyperChipmunkcommitting after I get out of here
22:58.03Codayushttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2909-1-sw-stats.html
22:58.42SyzxCodayus: I tried sw stats, but the functionality and gui seemed less then what Recap is.
22:59.11CodayusFunctionality is mixed.  Better than recap for some stuff...worse than others.  As a priest, I like the ability to get synced information on healing and overhealing.
22:59.17CodayusThe GUI is...um...different.  oO
22:59.46CodayusAnd my different, I mean "designed by someone who apparently thought that sliders were the only UI element you really need".  :-)
23:00.06Industrialeditbox > slider
23:00.23hasteCodayus: kind of like my GUI on the unit frames!
23:00.24Tem|AFKok, time for me to go
23:00.28hasteSLIDERS !!!!11
23:00.29Tem|AFKlater guys
23:00.31Industrialbye tem
23:00.33CodayusThe big lack is, AFAIK, that there's no ability to get "last fight" data.  All you can get is "info since last reset"
23:00.48Industrialhaste: pics plz? or do they look the same?
23:01.08hasteI only have a movie :<
23:01.14hastesince I cba to upload twice
23:01.18CodayusBut I like SW_stats synced "effective healing" display.  It does amazing things for my epeen.  :-)
23:01.19hasteand convert *shrugs*
23:01.28Industrialwheres the movie
23:01.39hastehttp://www.fuxsake.net/filer/oUF_GUI.mpeg << liek thar
23:01.41IndustrialCodayus: hehehe
23:01.46hastempeg ftw!
23:01.49hastexvidcap ftw!
23:01.57hastelags like there is no tomorrow!
23:02.14Industrialmedia player classic screwing it up FTL!
23:02.25hasteVLC takes it after what I know
23:02.26Industriallemme try VLC ..
23:02.27hastemplayer also
23:02.35Industrialbleh thats no gui
23:02.48hasteIt's GUI enough for me!
23:02.55hasteI cba to wait more for AceGUI
23:03.04IndustrialI don-touch windows commandline
23:03.13Industrialwhat does AceGUI do btw
23:03.25hastecreate... GUIs from lua
23:03.34Industrialdoesnt lua do thaT? :D
23:03.41hasteyes, but it's a PITA
23:03.48hasteto make sliders and friends
23:04.20snurrepoor enter button
23:04.34TainUg Lost season 3 doesn't start until October.
23:04.43haste~comfort Tain
23:04.50purlThere, there, Tain.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
23:04.50TainOc-freakin-tober
23:05.39hastenetcurse: I fail at findnig a RSS feed for curse :(
23:05.42Industrialhaste: OMFG
23:05.44IndustrialI LOVE IT
23:05.46Industrialrelease!
23:05.47Industrial:P
23:05.50haste;O
23:05.58Industrialsrsly fosho rly
23:06.02hasteI'm like... done with what you see there
23:06.04Industrialgot a date planned?
23:06.04haste+ scaling
23:06.08hasteno :>
23:06.17Industrialow..
23:06.21hastebut I have lots of people whining ^^;
23:06.44Industrialwill it have options for buff placement :P?
23:06.53Industriali like to stack my frames
23:06.53hastecan't you see it! ARE YOU BLIND?!
23:07.08hastetake a look at the menu again
23:07.19Industriallookie there...
23:07.31Industrial;x
23:07.34hasteI'm still thinking of how I should do it :<
23:07.41Tainhaste one thing I'd like to see (no idea if it's feasible with what you're doing currently) is separate font sizes for the top and bottom rows.
23:07.58hasteTain: I will add that... eventually
23:08.10hasteI just want to get the basic stuff done, quick and dirty for now
23:08.22TainI completely forgot I was going to suggest that to cladhaire for WatchDog.
23:09.19Industrialhaste: what is your idea on it now?
23:09.46hasteputting all settings into a table or something
23:09.51hastemaybe just one long nice string instead
23:10.03hasteand split it up like I do with frame positioning
23:12.12Amadeo_this is cool
23:12.12Amadeo_http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info5010-Reported!.html
23:12.31hasteAmadeo_: progress on oUF2 a couple of lines up
23:13.24Amadeo_:D
23:13.41haste(another xvidcap lagmovie by me!)
23:13.59Amadeo_uh oh
23:14.00Amadeo_haha
23:14.30Amadeo_I have to get a better codec, I hate this K-Lite pack
23:14.36Amadeo_that's what I get for being lazy
23:14.42hasteVLC!
23:14.45hasteand mplayer!
23:15.36Amadeo_it's not the players!
23:16.07hasteit is!
23:16.22Amadeo_VLC has too many problems with files that aren't perfectly encoded
23:16.45hasteI don't know about that
23:16.48hasteI use mplayer *grin*
23:18.47Amadeo_VLC sure is pretty on a Mac
23:18.48Amadeo_http://download.videolan.org/vlc/screenshots/0.8.2/macosx-serenity.jpg
23:19.47netcursehaste, evening
23:19.56netcursehaste, RSS might wait for django.
23:20.00netcursesince it s automated.
23:20.07haste:o
23:20.28hasterss + caching is quite easy tho'
23:20.31netcursetheir is only 2 developers on curse and the amount of work is equal to a much biger developement team..
23:20.46hasteouch
23:21.10netcurseHaste, i want the DB done before ZAM show up..
23:21.22netcurseand the movie section :)
23:21.30cladhaireTain: What were you suggesting?
23:21.41hasteaah
23:22.06Taincladhaire: seaparate font sizes for the two lines in each unit frame
23:22.18cladhaire*nod*
23:22.22cladhaireit'll be one of the 17,000 options.
23:22.24cladhaireI hate WatchDog now
23:22.28cladhairePerfectRaid is so much nicer
23:22.31cladhaireno customizatino =)
23:22.50TainThat's ok, I was hoping you weren't going to say, "It's been in there since the beginning n00b rtfm!"
23:23.04cladhairelol
23:23.19Tekkubyea clad, WD is almost too complex :)
23:23.25cladhaireIt'll be sexy tho
23:23.32cladhaireonce CLique is seperate
23:23.40Tekkuband the clickcasting, of course, makes more sense as a seperate mod completely
23:23.53TainYou do need to include a better 3d texture of course.  :)  
23:24.07Tekkuboh BTW, I'm working an a range lib with maia based off the code in Squishy
23:24.19Tekkubyou might wanna use it with PR once it's done
23:24.30Amadeo_brb
23:24.39Tekkubspeaking of, what's the run speeds in the game in yards/sec?
23:24.42CIA-1703hyperactiveChipmunk * r2145 10FuBar_CRDelayFu/ (CHANGELOG CRDelayFu.lua FuBar_CRDelayFu.toc):
23:24.42CIA-17FuBar_CRDelayFu:
23:24.42CIA-17- Updated for FuBar 1.2 libraries
23:24.42CIA-17- 1.0 release: No future changes planned
23:25.17TekkubI was thinking I should add a "probability" on a unit still being in range based off time since last test and the range they were at at the time
23:25.44cladhaireTain:  I use the LUF texture i think
23:25.44cladhaire*shrug*
23:26.07Tekkublike, I know he was within 30 yards 3 seconds ago, so he's probably only made it this far at normal run speed...
23:26.44TekkubI guess I could give a min/max estimate instead of a probability on range
23:27.06Tekkubactually... just max... if the unit moves closer I can detect that...
23:27.33Tekkubso I guess I'd return back last time seen, range seen at, estimated curren t max range
23:28.17Tekkubokey fine then, I'll test it myself!
23:28.20Tekkub:P~~~
23:29.31CIA-1703hyperactiveChipmunk * r2146 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua:
23:29.31CIA-17GloryLib:
23:29.31CIA-17- Battlegrounds "Time-to-Victory" finally implemented
23:29.45hyperChipmunki'm here if ya need me
23:29.59Tekkubnah I can test with a stationary NPC
23:30.21*** join/#wowace Amadeo- (i=zenon@c-69-143-220-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
23:30.32Amadeo-Bleh, now I remember why VLC is a craptastic player
23:30.35Amadeo-uninstalling
23:31.06TekkubI like Beyond Media/BeyondTV + Firefly remote
23:31.23Amadeo-does it load quick?
23:31.52TainVLC is fine.
23:32.00Amadeo-Not for me
23:32.07Amadeo-I like to be able to fast-forward without artifacts
23:32.10ckknightVLC works great for me
23:32.17Amadeo-Not to mention, it takes too long to load
23:32.34Amadeo-and it still has trouble with imperfect video files
23:32.36TainGet rid of all those nonsense codecs you don't need.
23:32.51Amadeo-I already did that :)
23:32.56Tekkub20 ft/sec running :)
23:33.16TekkubAma: not really... well BTV does but not BM
23:33.17Amadeo-VLC might be better on an OS other than Windows, but I can't stand it on this OS
23:33.30Tekkubbut I usually leave BM open as my PVR UI anyway
23:33.48TainDunno, I use VLC as my main player.
23:33.48Amadeo-You sound like you watch quite a few videos
23:33.51CIA-1703hyperactiveChipmunk * r2147 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/ (4 files):
23:33.51CIA-17FuBar_BattlegroundFu: 1.1.5
23:33.51CIA-17- Time-to-Victory support added
23:33.51CIA-17- Many tweaks and bugfixes
23:34.05Amadeo-Tain: I'm really anal :P
23:34.06TainAnd love the FireFox plugin that lets you launch embedded videos in VLC
23:34.09TekkubLots of anime and the fem TV shows we record when they're "rarely" airing
23:34.35Amadeo-hyperChipmunk: Last time I tried out BGFu, I kept getting that sound where a window is opening and closing, all the time
23:34.37Amadeo-drove me insane
23:35.14Amadeo-then some windows would automatically close on me
23:35.14hyperChipmunkyea
23:35.14Amadeo-like /who windows
23:35.14hyperChipmunkthat was experimental version
23:35.15Amadeo-does this new one do that?
23:35.15hyperChipmunkno
23:35.15Amadeo-:D
23:35.15hyperChipmunkbut it also doesn't tell you how many battlegrounds instances are open
23:35.18hyperChipmunkbecause that's what that stuff did
23:35.24Amadeo-Hm
23:35.31Amadeo-I came across an addon for that once
23:35.41hyperChipmunkall the ones out there use /who listings
23:35.54Amadeo-it used QueueWho or something
23:36.02hyperChipmunkthat's a who listing one =P
23:36.09Amadeo-yeah
23:36.16Amadeo-I ended up keeping QueueWho just because it's nice
23:36.17hyperChipmunkwhich is an estimate at best
23:36.24Amadeo-How did yours work?
23:36.40hyperChipmunkopened up the "Change Instance" window and scanned it
23:37.08hyperChipmunkit's one of those non-fixed functionality windows
23:37.11hyperChipmunklike tradeskills
23:37.14Amadeo-I see
23:37.19hyperChipmunkso you have to open it to get the information from it
23:37.50hyperChipmunkbecause those same functions return different values when a different version of it opens
23:37.54hyperChipmunkso they're not static
23:38.35Amadeo-You should ask Slouken to put in a feature for it
23:40.38Industrialanyone use idActionBar yet? :P
23:41.03Amadeo-mplayer is all command line?
23:41.09Amadeo-Industrial: I'm waiting until you can move it :P
23:43.30Industrialto where
23:43.32Industrial:D
23:43.39Industrial*badoom tisch*
23:43.51Amadeo-haha
23:44.21Industrialyou could edit the lua..
23:44.38Industrialline 68
23:47.48Amadeo-Remember who you're talking to
23:50.09cladhaireamadeo, you dont need access to the svn, correct?
23:51.43Amadeo-cladhaire: Just to download, but I guess it's working again
23:51.46Amadeo-it worked earlier!
23:53.15hasteAmadeo-: there are GUIs to it also
23:53.39Amadeo-is that what the skins are for it?
23:55.28Amadeo-I just assumed that those skins only showed up after you typed in some commands
23:56.51SyzxIndustrial: the sign % doesnt appear on my chats :(
23:57.53TainI forgot how much I liked Samurize for my Windows desktop.

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