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00:00.21Wobin_a~b?
00:00.24Wobin_meh
00:00.40Wobin_naptime
00:02.07Amadeo_night Wobin :)
00:02.09Amadeo_<3
00:05.39cladhaireI miss . as the concat operator
00:05.57cladhairei liked .=
00:05.59cladhaire*shrug*
00:10.04*** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce3.disney.com)
00:14.31CIA-1703tekkub * r1954 10/branches/FuBar_FriendsFu/ (. FriendsFu.lua):
00:14.31CIA-17FuBar_FriendsFu (Tekkub's branch)
00:14.31CIA-17- Upgraded to FuPlugin 1.2
00:14.31CIA-17- Upgraded menus to DewDrop
00:14.31CIA-17- Upgraded Tooltip to Tablet
00:14.31CIA-17- Removed all the "extra fluff" options, just shows friends now, menus only have invite and whisper options
00:15.52Amadeo_You guys are addon coding machines
00:16.57CIA-1703tekkub 07Tekkub * r1955 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (5 files):
00:16.57CIA-17FuBar_GuildFu (Tekkub's branch)
00:16.57CIA-17- Moved Locale tables into main file
00:16.57CIA-17- Shuffled code internally for more logical code layout
00:17.58Amadeo_LocationFu is broken
00:18.44phyberLocationFu works fine here.  Latest SVN
00:19.25Amadeo_the FuBar on WoWI and LocationFu on WoWI aren't compatible then, and I'm not gonna get her started on doing SVN stuff, I can barely teach her how to unzip :P
00:19.35phyberhehe :)
00:19.36TainLocationFu release from wowinterface works for me.
00:19.45Amadeo_with FuBar release?
00:19.49Amadeo_or FuBar SVN?
00:19.52TainYes, I don't touch FuBar svn.
00:20.01Amadeo_weird
00:20.05Amadeo_maybe she has an old one
00:20.08Amadeo_I'm too lazy to check though
00:21.47TekkubAma: TortoiseSVN, it's easy enough for my moron husband even
00:21.55Amadeo_The new FuBar SVN works pretty good, only a few bugs
00:21.58Amadeo_haha
00:22.03Tekkubhighligh folders, right click one with icon, SVN Update
00:22.30Amadeo_True :) I've been using it, it's pretty damn easy
00:25.10phyberI should script something in irssi so that my WoWAce SVN stuff updates when it sees an update in the channel.
00:25.28phyberI wouldn't have to keep checking for updates myself :p
00:27.51Amadeo_Just let it ignore FuBar updates
00:27.52Amadeo_haha
00:28.21Tekkubmeh, maybe I'll just name my mod Traink
00:28.27Amadeo_Which one?
00:28.45Tekkubmy Tranq shot one I keep putting off due to lack of name
00:29.16Amadeo_hm
00:29.20GenNMX|Thraeckknight * FuBar * 1824 * Fixed typo. ckknight * Fubar * 1825 * Fixed another typo. ckknight * FuBar * 1826 * Fixed yet another typo...
00:29.32Amadeo_haha
00:29.54Tekkubor maybe... I'll just name it Ypab'Odry
00:30.14GenNMX|Thraeckknight * FuBar * 1827 * The modification time on FuBar.lua was set for today, but I can't remember what I changed.
00:30.23Amadeo_At least he's honest :)
00:30.24Tekkubthat's "TranqShot" translated from QWERTY to Dvorak
00:30.42GenNMX|ThraeTekkub: What about the existing Tranq. Shot addon?
00:30.50Tekkubwhat one?
00:30.55TekkubI want a Timex bar one
00:30.57GenNMX|ThraeIt's non-Ace
00:31.04Tekkubthat has zero config
00:31.06*** join/#wowace Tem (n=Tem@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)
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00:31.16GenNMX|ThraeTrue, but you could steal it's name ;)
00:31.16Tekkuband, probably, syncs via the CTRA/oRA channel
00:31.41Tekkubscrew tha, I like TranqShot
00:31.41Tekkuber
00:31.41TekkubYpab'Odry
00:32.30GenNMX|ThraeBah, name it "Anethesia" after "Tranquil Shot" ;)
00:33.17TemI would name it Syringe
00:33.22GenNMX|ThraeOr "Valium", "Valium Shot", "Halldal Shot"
00:33.53GenNMX|ThraeOooo -- "TranqJunkie"!
00:34.09TekkubI was thinking of just calling it K
00:34.45Amadeo_I don't even know what it is :(
00:34.51Amadeo_What's Tranquil Shot? :D
00:34.51TekkubKetamine
00:34.57Tekkuboh
00:34.59Amadeo_haha
00:35.06Tekkubit's a Hunter skill you use in raids
00:35.08GenNMX|ThraeWhy not just post a picture of a swiggly line on WoWI and say "That's its name. You can refer to it as the 'Addon formally known as TranqShot' if you want."
00:35.19Tekkubgotta rotate em between hunters cause it's got a cooldown
00:35.24Amadeo_oh, I see
00:35.33Amadeo_Is that the aggro reduction shot?
00:35.53Tekkuband the current "method" is to just spam the fuck out of macros as to if you hit or not
00:36.07TekkubI dunno, I'm never in the rotation :)
00:36.16Amadeo_:(
00:36.16GenNMX|Thrae"Tranquilizer"
00:36.25Amadeo_Elephant Gun
00:36.36Tekkubbut anyway, I want something that simply shows everyone's cooldowns, and colorcode it based on if the hit or miss or whatever
00:36.51Amadeo_nice
00:36.58Tekkuband have it use the CTRA-oRA channel to sync if need be, which it prolly will need
00:38.42Tekkubmaybe even get something set up with BigWigs so it can show a timer when a tranq is needed too
00:38.57Amadeo_What is BigWigs? haste gave me a crappy description :P
00:39.09TekkubCTRA_BossMods + Timex
00:40.49GenNMX|ThraeTranqJunkie -- Need your fix of Tranquil Shot? Get TranqJunkie, a fast-talking addon which can even communicate (amongst convulsions) between other Junkies with cooldown and availability information. Soiled underpants not included.
00:41.02Tekkubheh
01:20.53Tekkubwewt! go me
01:21.03TekkubI got my good ol name, Bear, again
01:21.14Tekkubwho wants to duo with me on Uldaman?
01:26.26hyperChipmunkO_o
01:27.50hyperChipmunkhi guys =)
01:29.14*** join/#wowace hyperChipmunk (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com)
01:50.20Tekkubisn't there a formula out there for probabbilitys on disenchantings?
01:50.53cladhaireits not a formula
01:51.01cladhaireits just percentages
01:51.39Tekkubyea, percentages, gimme!
01:51.59TekkubI don't like GFW's "rarely" give me a damn number
01:52.14cladhairefizzwidget has a gadget for it =)
01:52.30cladhaireshould be in prt =)
01:52.37cladhairehehe
01:52.52TekkubI have his "gadget" it has no percentages
01:53.05Tekkubonly fuzzy scale, "rarely, most likely
01:53.08Tekkubetc
01:53.21cladhaireboo
01:53.27TekkubI want Dust: 80%, Essence: 15%, Shard: 5%
01:53.34cladhaireso does my mom.
01:53.46Tekkubyou're helpful :P
01:53.50cladhairesorry
01:58.46pagefaulthas anyone ever seen a shard off of a green?
02:01.06Cairennenchantrix :p
02:01.51TainStarted playing with some old EQ friends on a brand new server, have a whole guild of people to turn on to Ace addons.
02:08.02pagefaultI have to get my guild to stop using titan
02:09.09pagefaultsomeone got mad at me because I was using ora instead of ctraid
02:09.13pagefaultdespite it being completely compatible
02:13.40hyperChipmunkshmm, what mod turns off my party when I'm in a raid
02:13.55TainI'm starting with Titan, I dropped a subtle hint that I'd get to CTRA later.
02:14.59TainActually I shouldn't even say Ace, just "better" addons some of which happen to be Ace.
02:22.38pagefaultI just say I use ctraid now
02:22.45pagefaultjust so I don't get any silly people
02:23.50Cairennhttp://www.allakhazam.com/e3/news/sdetail7378.html?story=7378
02:31.30TemCairenn: what does that mean?
02:31.46Cairennwhat does what mean?
02:31.48Temer, I guess that's not the news article I was thinking of
02:32.00TemI saw one where it mentioned the "interface" sites
02:32.04Temseems ominous
02:32.10Tems/ms/med/
02:32.49Cairennlinkage?
02:33.07TemI'm looking for it
02:33.12Temsomeone linked it to me
02:33.23Temso I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to where it was
02:33.32Cairennabout Zam, perhaps?
02:34.17Temhttp://wow.allakhazam.com/news/sdetail7293.html?story=7293
02:34.20Temyeah, Zam
02:34.27Cairennyeah
02:34.30Temwtf is all that
02:34.36Cairennexactly what it says
02:34.37TemI don't read lawyer
02:34.49Cairennthey merges
02:34.55Cairennmerged*
02:36.18Temwhatev
02:36.48TainOh man just my luck, I get someone to try out FuBar and he grabs the "FuBar - Complete" that someone put together and of course it's not up to date and so errors on login on a bunch of stuff.
02:37.35Tem...
02:37.36Temwow
02:37.50Temhow do you upload a compilation that has errors on login?
02:37.53Temseriously
02:38.06TainWEll, it probably didn't a couple of weeks ago
02:38.23TainBut new versions of FuBar or something, I dunno.  
02:39.05hyperChipmunkit includes fubar
02:39.26TainYeah but if someone downloads current fubar and just overlays... I dunno.
02:39.40TainI thought it was a bad idea as soon as I saw the compilation up there.
02:39.41hyperChipmunkno, you're dumb
02:39.44hyperChipmunk=)
02:39.48hyperChipmunkyea, it is
02:40.19kergothyay home
02:40.21kergoth~remulate
02:40.23purlmust obey the taco man!
02:40.30kergothyay gir
02:45.56TainI'm so happy I got satellite radio.  I actually get to hear new music.
02:50.00*** join/#wowace ckknight (i=ckknight@65.248.26.119)
02:50.28ckknighthey all
02:52.03Cairennevening ckknight
02:52.46ckknightit's 4:52 PM for me now
02:52.58Cairennthat's evening
02:53.04ckknightnaw, sun's shining
02:53.10ckknightI'm in Hawaii, btw
02:53.27ckknightlol
02:53.35ckknightit'll take me a few weeks to get an apartment
02:53.45ckknightso I have to live with my parents till then :-P
02:53.52Tainheh
02:53.53Cairenn;)
02:54.01TainBeen staying with my parents for the last 2 months while I looked.
02:54.06TainI thought it would be a couple of weeks.
02:54.11ckknighthttp://www.toothpastefordinner.com/051806/drug-mules.gif
02:54.27ckknightTain, yea, but I have a lot of real estate contacts here
02:54.34TainBut!  I have a lease in my hands now, should be finalizing everything tomorrow.
02:54.39ckknightcool
02:54.56ckknightanybody test out FuBar/find any errors?
02:57.36ckknightit's very bright here
02:57.40ckknightI just went for a swim
02:59.15ckknightgonna take a shower, bbl
03:01.02TemhyperChipmunk: you around?
03:01.28hyperChipmunkno
03:03.09hyperChipmunksup
03:03.47hyperChipmunkI just got home from about a week on the road, so I'm not exactly in the frame of mind to code right now
03:03.59hyperChipmunkbut if you need something else, I can help ya
03:05.23TemhyperChipmunk: is there any reason BatFu wouldn't show up on the FuBar list?
03:05.26TainWhat is the average airspeed velocity of an unlaiden swallow?
03:06.06Temnot enough information/trick question
03:06.26Temand ckknight, wtf
03:06.37Temwhy does FuBar keep putting these plugins on the minimap
03:06.55hyperChipmunkshouldn't be; but I haven't seen this week's incarnation of FuBar, so I wouldn't know
03:07.17Temthen, if I disable the plugin (while it's on the minimap) it doesn't go away
03:07.17hyperChipmunkif there's an error with it, it won't show =P
03:07.35hyperChipmunkminimap buttons should be destroyed
03:07.37Temso then, if I right click the damn thing even though it's not supposed to be there anymore, I get an error
03:07.42Tem[22:06-1251] ...ace\FuBar\FuBarPlugin-1.2\FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua:536: attempt to index field `panel' (a nil value)
03:10.07TemhyperChipmunk: I don't get any errors from BatFu
03:10.13Temit just doesn't show up in the list
03:11.33ckknightback
03:12.36Temckknight: you see what I posted?
03:12.40ckknightyea
03:12.43ckknightI know the issue
03:13.52Temok
03:13.58Temany thoughts on BatFu not appearing?
03:14.22ckknightyes
03:15.02Temwanna share em?
03:15.04Tem*nudge*
03:15.25ckknightno
03:15.42ckknightit has to do with FuBarPlugin-1.0 inheriting from FuBarPlugin-1.2
03:16.01ckknightI'm gonna remove that, which will cause redundancy, but hopefully should send FuBarPlugin-1.0 into a stasis
03:16.38ckknightand also prevent it from dealing with the minimap
03:16.47Temwhat revision should I revert to in order to get BatFu back?
03:16.55Temmy BG is going to pop in like 5 minutes
03:16.58TemI *need* batfu
03:18.57TainI don't even know what batfu does.  
03:19.08ckknightTem, WoWI's
03:19.10ckknightI'm guessing
03:19.53Temmanually download?
03:19.55Tem*shudder*
03:19.57hyperChipmunkTem: aww <3
03:19.59ckknightor check the number
03:20.06Temyeah, that's what I'm planning
03:20.15hyperChipmunkBatFu wowi and svn are the same
03:20.30Temnot BatFu
03:20.32ckknightFuBar.
03:20.34TemhyperChipmunk: it's a FuBar issue
03:20.42hyperChipmunkah
03:20.46Temholy crap
03:20.55Temit's been a whole week since you did a wowi release?
03:20.59ckknightyea
03:21.01ckknightI've been busy
03:21.02ckknightand testing
03:21.07hyperChipmunkand someone needs batfu; that makes me feel good. thank you tem =)
03:21.11ckknightI want to do this right
03:22.10ckknightthe next release is a major release
03:22.16ckknighti.e. what should've been 1.2
03:23.37Temheh
03:23.38ckknightthe next major I'm hoping for is 2.0
03:23.45ckknightbut that'll be based on Ace2
03:23.52ckknightso that needs to come out first
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03:43.07CIA-1703ckknight * r1956 10FuBar-compat-1.0/ (FuBar-compat-1.0.toc Lib/FuBar-compat-1.0.lua): FuBar-compat-1.0 - removed FuBarPlugin-1.2 dependency. This creates redundancy, but will solve problems.
03:43.08ckknightokay, BatFu works now.
03:43.12ckknighthey [Cu]NeT
03:44.42Amadeo_ckknight: Did ya fix that minimap-merge-honorfu thing? :)
03:44.51ckknightno
03:44.52ckknightnot yet
03:45.18Amadeo_:(
03:45.46ckknightkeep yet kilt on
03:46.14ckknight1956
03:46.15ckknightgood year
03:46.49Amadeo_haha
03:46.58Amadeo_What's Rating Limit mean in HonorFu?
03:47.32ckknightit's a pvp term
03:47.39ckknightit's your top rating based on your level
03:50.17Amadeo_I'm confused, what's rating? like the contribution? or standing?
03:50.37ckknightstanding
03:50.41ckknightsorta
03:50.45ckknightrating determines standing
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03:51.12Tekkubwell interesting... so I took enchantrix's data and tallied it up
03:51.19Tekkubpercents are fairly clear-cut
03:51.37Amadeo_I see
03:51.47Amadeo_Enchantrix, that's what I need
03:51.57Amadeo_but I want a bigger database :(
03:51.58Amadeo_it's always wrong!
03:52.09TekkubGreens, 75% (Dust for armor, essence for weapons),  20% (reverse 75%'s),  5% shard
03:52.22TekkubAma, generalized numbers are more applicable
03:52.37TekkubDE's seem to not really be item-specific
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03:52.49Amadeo_I see
03:53.01kaeltenello
03:53.20TekkubBlues, lvl 11-45 ~100% shard, lvl45-60 ~90% shard 10% dust or essence (same rules as greens here)
03:53.44Amadeo_that's interesting actually )
03:53.53TekkubPurples, lvl 56-60 seem to be almost always a nexus, all others shards
03:54.15Tekkuband then there's specific shards/dust/essences you get depending on item's level
03:54.31Tekkubbut the percentages are ver consistant
03:55.06Tekkubonly "odd one out" is greens 1-10 don't give shards, so their percents are 80% 20%
03:55.12CIA-1703ckknight * r1957 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/Lib/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua: FuBarPlugin-1.2 - hides minimap button on :Hide()
03:56.15TekkubI'm gonna fire those numbers at GFW and hope he adds them to Disenchant Predictor
03:57.10Amadeo_is that an addon already made?
04:06.44Tekkubyes
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04:14.01Amadeo_any way I can move the alliance/horde flag capture thing in BGs?
04:16.46CIA-1703ckknight * r1958 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - defaults panel to nil (which will place automatically) instead of 1.
04:17.10CIA-1703ckknight * r1959 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/Lib/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua: FuBarPlugin-1.2 - fixed merging on reload.
04:18.51CIA-1703tekkub * r1960 10Zookeeper/ (. ZooKeeper.lua):
04:18.51CIA-17ZooKeeper - Undoing Rowne's fix, because it didn't fix anything, it was already there.
04:18.51CIA-17Rowne is smoking crack
04:19.31CIA-1703ckknight * r1961 10FuBarPlugin-1.2/Lib/FuBarPlugin-1.2.lua: FuBarPlugin-1.2 - removed debug line.
04:19.48ckknightup to the 1960
04:19.49ckknight's
04:19.54ckknighthooray for the sexual revolution
04:20.29Tekkubso it seems my coworker's D&D nerdy BF is a cute lil furry chubby bastard
04:20.35TekkubI'm gonna give her soooo much crap
04:20.47ckknightlol
04:20.51ckknighthow come?
04:21.07Tekkuband the guy that works at the cell phone store that comes in like 2x a week is a EQ nerd
04:21.16Tekkubcause he's cute and I like him
04:21.35Tekkubanyway the cell guy saw me reading my WC book today and got all curious
04:27.42ckknightokay, to those who have had issues, please try FuBar SVN
04:27.53ckknightthat means you, Amadeo_ and Tem
04:27.54ckknightafaik
04:30.21kergothgrr, fixing up this gcc patchset is a huge pain in the ass.  debian build tools suck
04:35.24kergothfinally, building
04:35.45ckknightlol
04:39.54Temouch lol
04:40.04Temthe average grade on my csc final was a 68
04:40.13Temwith a 6pt stdev
04:40.24TemI got a 96
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04:42.44hyperChipmunkAmadeo_: pvp 'rating' is the numerical representation of your Rank
04:43.23hyperChipmunk60,000 is Rank 14 (GM/HWL); 55,000 is rank 13 (FM/WL); etc. on down the line
04:44.46Temcan you get that number in game?
04:46.50hyperChipmunksort of
04:47.15hyperChipmunkit's basically your rank percent progress
04:47.37hyperChipmunklike, if you're rank 12 and 50% of the way through, you've got about 52,500 Rating
04:47.49hyperChipmunkyou can get rank and progress % in-game
04:47.57Temright
04:48.17Temand it's down to 5 or 6 significant digits
04:48.24Temis that not good enough?
04:48.41hyperChipmunkno, cuz the actual rating they come up with is rounded weird
04:48.48hyperChipmunkso you won't get exact
04:48.51hyperChipmunkyou get close though
04:49.00hyperChipmunklike, the % doesn't correspond exactly
04:49.04hyperChipmunkit's messed up
04:50.17Amadeo_Just had a bug after leaving BGs, not sure who updates the addon
04:50.17hyperChipmunkand it's worth noting that private starts at like 15,000, I think
04:50.32hyperChipmunkif you're unranked, your rating is 0
04:50.39hyperChipmunkif you're private, it's 15,000
04:51.18hyperChipmunkso the equation is 10000 + 5000*rank
04:51.27hyperChipmunkunless rank = 0
04:51.30hyperChipmunkthen it's 0
04:51.31hyperChipmunk=P
04:51.41Amadeo_GratuityLib.lua:311: Usage: SetUnitBuff("unit", index [, raidFilter])
04:51.45Amadeo_what's that mean? lol
04:52.24Amadeo_ckknight: Will do :)
05:16.06Amadeo_ckknight: When I Merge ExpFu and HonorFu, and select HonorFu as the display, it resets to ExpFu display, though stays merged
05:27.22Temckknight: the right-most plugin (in the right aligned group) is pretty far from the actual right side
05:28.05hyperChipmunkmake your bar bigger?
05:28.11Temhmm, works fine on my main
05:28.16Temno idea
05:28.52hyperChipmunkunlock it and resize
05:30.34Temthere is for some reason no difference between the "default" texture and the tree texture
05:35.12hyperChipmunkmaybe tree texture is default
05:35.30hyperChipmunkI only have default, and it looks like a 'tree' texture
05:36.29hyperChipmunkduno if that's normal though; I've always had it 100% transparent
05:44.24ckknightAmadeo_, that's not a merging bug, HonorFu and ExpFu switch automatically when /pvp goes on and off
05:45.52ckknightTem, yea I made the default the same as tree
05:46.30hyperChipmunkckknight: why have like 10 different black w/ X backgrounds? you can do black with white and use SetVertexColor and let ppl choose whatever color they want
05:46.54ckknightnah, I don't trust users to make good decisions
05:47.03ckknightand I only ship with one texture
05:47.11hyperChipmunkwell, no need for the different files, even
05:47.24hyperChipmunkyou can just ship a black with white and setvertexcolor yourself
05:47.34ckknightblack with white?
05:47.54ckknightyea, but then it doesn't have a "texture" to it
05:48.00ckknightit's just flat color
05:50.33hyperChipmunkthat's all your black*.tga are anyway
05:50.54hyperChipmunkbut black-anything can be done with blackwhite.tga and a SetVertexColor
05:52.29CodayusHmm, is the current SVN version of FuBar functional?
05:52.39hyperChipmunkseems to be
05:53.41hyperChipmunkexcept it can't seem to remember for the life of it where I put PerformanceFu and VolumeFu, for some reason
05:54.01hyperChipmunkhave to reposition 'em every /rl
05:54.33hyperChipmunkand some other glitches too =x
05:54.37hyperChipmunkbut mostly functional
05:57.09ckknightCodayus, it's supposed to be
05:57.15Codayusgood
05:57.16ckknightI currently need testers, though
05:57.33ckknighthyperChipmunk, what other glitches?
06:01.22CodayusOkay, SVN fubar looks good.
06:01.32CodayusAnd volume and performance plugins are right where I left them.  :-)
06:05.23ckknighthyperChipmunk, send me your FuBar SVs
06:15.05hyperChipmunklike, when I hit close on BatFu, stuff goes wonky
06:15.27hyperChipmunkFuBar rightclick menu loses all of its plugin menus
06:15.38ckknightweird
06:15.45ckknightyou should just update BatFu to 1.2
06:15.50hyperChipmunkif you close it from the plugin menu, you're fine
06:15.55hyperChipmunklike, uncheck it
06:16.00ckknighthrm
06:16.05ckknightyou mean when you hit disable?
06:16.18hyperChipmunkoh, right
06:16.27hyperChipmunkno, it's close =)
06:16.37hyperChipmunkand forget the second part i said about unchecking, since that's disable
06:16.57hyperChipmunkclose is what does it
06:17.32hyperChipmunkand then half my plugins forget where they're supposed to be
06:18.33ckknightall Close does is HideDropDownMenu(1)
06:19.43ckknightI just did what you said, it did nothing out of the ordinary
06:19.55hyperChipmunkstrange
06:20.26hyperChipmunklemme see if it happens if the tt isn't detached
06:20.38hyperChipmunkstill happens
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06:25.20ckknightCan't reproduce.
06:29.45hyperChipmunkI'll dig into it tomorrow morning; I'll get your SVs though
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06:31.27ckknightI do need more testing for FuBar...
06:31.46[MoonWolf]night tem
06:34.34Elkanock, yes you do :/ I'Ve experienced the problem of FuBar plugins locking up :/
06:35.23Elkanoeg DurabilityFu having text 100%, but showing -1% in tooltip which both werent correct wrt the status of my equipment
06:35.52Elkanoor MountMe always showing 0% and not dismounting anymore but MountMe:Now() still working
06:36.32ElkanoI didn't notice yet when this happens, I've only noticed that it had happend after some time playing
06:36.34hyperChipmunkMountMe isn't fubar i think
06:36.51ckknightdidn't work, just email it
06:37.21ckknightElkano, those are plugins, I mean testing for FuBar proper
06:37.36Elkanoalso FuBar now somehow forgets the positioning of it's plugins (left, middle, right and bar are still correct but within that groups they aren't consistend positioned over logins)
06:38.02ckknightthe only major bug is the positioning deal
06:38.15ckknightbut that's such a hodgepodge, because of the poor profile system
06:38.26Elkanock, wrt to the two plugin problems it's in question if it's a plugin/emblib bug or a bug in FuBar
06:38.42ckknightElkano, GratuityLib, afaik
06:41.42Elkanobtw: hyperChipmunk, I've got some work for you if you have time :) I got a bunch of deDE strings for AB in order to fix GloryLib
06:41.58Elkano@ck: so it's a known bug with GratuityLib?
06:42.07ckknightI don't know
06:42.32hyperChipmunkElkano: <3
06:51.26ElkanoI queried them to you
06:51.35Elkanoas you can see, there may be a few problems coming up since we have different articles for the different genders :/
06:54.18kergothARGH
06:54.21kergothi fucking hate that
06:54.24kergothi was in wc
06:54.27kergothkilled all 4 guys
06:54.32kergothand i missed a loot of one of the bosses
06:54.36kergothso now i'm stuck going back
06:54.38kergothand i HATE that place
06:54.42kergoth</rant>
06:55.41Elkanomuharrharr... happend to me in Uldaman :/ one of the boss corpses despawned before we had been back for looting :/
06:55.59[MoonWolf]I had that with arugal 3 times.
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07:22.37kergothgo faster, damnit
07:25.32[MoonWolf]what are ya compiling.
07:31.08kergothgcc :)
07:31.25kergothbuilding gcc with support for the D programming language so i can try coding in it
07:35.17CIA-1703ckknight * r1962 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): FuBar - changed LoD info to not be profile-specific.
07:35.39[MoonWolf]never tried D.
07:39.52kergothme neither, but it looks awesome
07:39.58kergothhttp://www.digitalmars.com/d/
07:40.05kergothhttp://www.digitalmars.com/d/comparison.html
07:42.00ElkanoLoD?
07:46.46ckknightload on demand
07:49.59[MoonWolf]kergoth, small question, do you know of a modern compiled programming language that is loosly typed ?
07:51.46ckknightI don't
07:51.53ckknightthey may exist for .NET, though
07:52.10[MoonWolf]ah well
07:52.17[MoonWolf]static isnt bad.
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08:01.20ckknightyour terms are off
08:01.31ckknightopposite of loosely-typed is strongly typed
08:01.48ckknightthere's also static and dynamic
08:03.02ckknightan example of loose-dynamic is perl, loose-static -> C, strong-dynamic -> Python, strong-static -> C#
08:03.12ckknightthose are just examples
08:03.24ckknightLua fits into strong-dynamic
08:03.35kergothi like strong dynamic for scripting. perl is madness in that regard
08:03.35kergothheh
08:04.45ckknightagreed
08:04.50ckknightperl has its own issues, though
08:04.54ckknightoutside of all that
08:06.16ckknightI prefer strongly-typed languages
08:06.28ckknightthe dynamic/static deal depends on the situtation
08:06.33ckknightsituation*
08:07.30[MoonWolf]true
08:07.42[MoonWolf]although its good at giving you headaches.
08:08.10kergothperl is really really good at text mangling.
08:08.20ckknightyea
08:08.20kergoththeres something to be said for a language having built in regex operators
08:09.02ckknightin Boo, which is strong-static/dynamic, there are built-in regex operators just like Perl
08:09.11kergothneat
08:09.15ckknightso it's not necessarily Perl-specific
08:09.28ckknightyou can do all sorts of crazy things
08:09.33kergothwoot, hit 24 with my mage, -finally- get counterspell.  thank god, been needing an interrupt for a while now
08:09.52ckknight(I'm only using Boo as an example cause I've used and developed it)
08:11.11ckknightbut you could do s ~= /thing/
08:11.20kergothcool
08:11.30ckknight<PROTECTED>
08:11.57ckknightthe ~= deal turned into a /thing/.Match(s)
08:12.11Industrialheh
08:12.12Industrial:o
08:12.17ckknightit was kinda neat
08:12.24ckknightall it did was rearrange things
08:12.29Industrialmorning btw
08:12.32ckknighthey indie
08:12.38Industrialckknight: cant find boo on google :\
08:12.48ckknighthttp://boo.codehaus.org/
08:13.02Industrialyeah, nozzing..
08:13.58ckknighthttp://codehaus.org/display/BOO/Home
08:14.08ckknightapparently
08:14.13kergothD is looking pretty damn cool. support for interfaces, mixins, etc
08:14.15kergothhmm
08:14.16ckknightnot much development on it since I left, though
08:15.06ckknightit had some cool stuff for it, though
08:15.11ckknightmuch of which C# is stealing for 3.0
08:16.39ckknightthe LINQ docs are pretty interesting, if you haven't read em, kergoth
08:17.18kergothdoesnt ring a bell
08:18.29ckknighthas to do with databasing
08:22.16ckknighte.g. interconnectivity between the language and the DB, seamlessly
08:23.56ckknight`from t in db select t.thing` gives you an IEnumerable holding a bunch of things from t, whether t be a List, a DB deal, or an XML deal
08:26.57ckknightthere's also other stuff like sorting, filtering, etc.
08:27.23ckknightthe point is to make a single way to handle data, whether it be in memory, db, or xml
08:27.40ckknightor whatever else that follows the API
08:27.49[MoonWolf]neat idea
08:31.37ckknightit's very smart, actually
08:32.18ckknightI was working on implementing it in Boo, but got caught up in beaurocracy and ended up leaving after everyone just stopped caring
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09:13.09NeronixMorning
09:14.24Wobin_Morning
09:20.27NeronixAnyone got errors with the new NS on SVN?
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09:25.52phyberNeronix: nope.
09:26.07phyberI was running it yesterday through Onyxia and a few BWL wipes.
09:31.03Wobin_hm
09:31.14Wobin_anyone else having issues with the RSS feed for the SVN??
09:34.51Industrialyea, its too fast
09:34.52Industriallol
09:34.53Industrial:P
09:35.09Wobin_I'm not getting any results from it =(
09:36.55Industrialwob im bored
09:37.03Industrialany link?
09:37.15Wobin_hm
09:37.27Industrial:DD
09:37.56phyber4chan.org, go and melt your brain in /b/
09:38.03Wobin_Go play a rogue in WoW and test my bar
09:38.19Industrialphyber: im at work kthx
09:38.30phyberahh :(
09:38.32IndustrialWobin_: ditto
09:38.33Elkano/b/tard :/
09:38.33phyberme too :/
09:38.58phyberI get to leave this place toon though \o/
09:39.02phyberworking at a school sucks.
09:39.05phybertoon?  soon.
09:39.47Industrialinternship for webmaster
09:39.50Industrial11th month
09:40.12Industrialdear diary, i have begun chewin on my arms now
09:40.15Industrial:|
09:42.06Industrialphyber: and 4chan = teh suk anyway
09:42.21Industrialreeks of child porn
09:42.24Industrialyuck
09:42.31Wobin_browse deviantart and get inspired to do better =)
09:42.35Industrialheh
09:42.47IndustrialI have 2 left hands Wobin_, i code, i dont design :(
09:43.08Industrialhmm
09:43.15Industriali could just go and make a website for fun
09:43.17Industrial:o
09:44.24Wobin_How's your CSS?
09:44.36Wobin_I find I have to reteach myself CSS every time I use it =P
09:49.35hasteIndustrial: 4chan != loli
09:49.41hastenot4chan however....
09:51.17[MoonWolf]yes but not4chan is suprisingly NOT 4chan....
09:51.54haste:-P
09:52.06hasteko-chan is like 4chan and not4chan merged, with extras
09:56.02Wobin_I wish people were more consistant in their naming of their acitonbuttonframes
09:57.32Wobin_Okay
09:57.39Wobin_I need a suggestion for a German first name
09:57.49Wobin_Or Germanic at least
09:58.23[MoonWolf]Jan
09:58.25IndustrialWobin_: my cSS is ok, but our designer does that so i dont know how to resolve quirks
09:58.53CodayusHmmm
09:59.18CodayusI'm inspecting someone who is clearly using a mod to swap +mp5 gear in right before every tick.
09:59.49Neronix+mp5?
09:59.51Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/websites/001/
09:59.53hasteIndustrial: blizz fucked up the migration limit, going to be a migration OF grim batol now also :p
09:59.55Industrialwatch it happen :D
09:59.56CodayusEvery few seconds he swaps in a +mp5s ring, then immediatly back to a +shadow damage ring...
09:59.56hastegg blizzard
10:00.05Industrialhaste: damn
10:00.10Industrialhaste: you moving?
10:00.14hastedon't think so
10:00.19Industrialwould be fun
10:00.21CodayusNeronix: + mana per 5 seconds
10:00.22hasteI don't think many will move from Grim Batol
10:00.28NeronixCodayus: I see
10:00.28steinothe new ralm is called Tarren Mill ffs
10:00.28Industrialyeah
10:00.29Industrialthats why
10:00.32steinorealm*
10:00.32[MoonWolf]lol
10:00.46hasteIndustrial: right now I have 20ms... which is fucking insane for a MMO :p
10:00.51CodayusI can't decide if I think the mod is clever, stupid, or a serious sploit.  :-)  I guess since it doesn't work in combat...
10:00.53Industrial:o
10:01.04haste<< is on the best public backbone in norway
10:01.30Industrialso? the netherlands has a good uplink anyway ;>
10:01.41hastewell, the server is in sweden
10:01.45IndustrialWobin_: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/websites/001/
10:02.38Wobin_Codayus: That addon would never work for me
10:02.50Wobin_Lag alone would ensure it'd never work as intended
10:02.57hastemay I ask: what addon?
10:02.58CodayusHeh
10:03.34Neronixsounds like something private
10:03.43CodayusI have no idea.  I was just inspecting a random warlock in gadget, when I noticed he was swapping rings back...and forth.  After the 10th time, I decided he probably wasn't being indecisive.
10:03.54CodayusAfter the 100th, all perfectly regularly timed...
10:04.01[MoonWolf]wow
10:04.09[MoonWolf]talk about going crazy because of the sound
10:04.12hastebut... why?
10:04.12[MoonWolf]ping ping ping ping
10:04.19CodayusI know.
10:04.20hastewhat do you get out of it?
10:04.26[MoonWolf]more mana per tic
10:04.30[MoonWolf]tick
10:04.36hastewould be better to _NOT_ swap gear then
10:04.45hastejust have the mp5 gear on while resting
10:04.53CodayusWell, 90% of the time he had a +dmg ring, but 10% of the time he had a +mp5s ring.  I have to assume he was swapping in the mp5 ring RIGHT before a tick.
10:04.54hasteand you can't change gear in combat
10:04.58Wobin_more mana per tic + whatever damage on the other ring =)
10:04.58CodayusI know.
10:05.09CodayusBut +dmg does no good out of combat.
10:05.12hasteCodayus: it still wouldn't help
10:05.25CodayusRight.  It's confusing.
10:05.46hasteit's not like you benefit much of the spirit ticks as a warlock
10:05.58Wobin_(shadowpriest?)
10:06.22CodayusHe was a warlock.  Swithcing between Underworld Band and a Band of Earthen Wrath.
10:06.39CodayusI guess I could send him a /tell and ask him...
10:07.12CodayusMaybe it helps in pvp?
10:07.58CodayusDoT people up, run out of combat range?  Are dot ticks based on current +dmg gear, or the +dmg gear from when it was cast?
10:08.31hastecurrent
10:08.41steinono, it was changed wasnt it?
10:08.52hastenooo?
10:08.55steinoto take dmg from when it was cast?
10:09.01hasteI can still DoT people up and pop trinket
10:09.03steinoi think rada told me about that :O
10:09.10hasteit was changed to the +damage didn't go away when you died.
10:09.22steinoaah, that might be it
10:10.05phyberCodayus: maybe it's so he can keep the mana regen outside of combat, but if he goes into combat it's very likely that the +dmg will be equipped.
10:10.19CodayusThat's...possible
10:10.27phyberjusjust a tool for being lazy and not swapping rings manually, perhaps.
10:10.35hasteLucen: you there?
10:10.43phybers/jus//
10:18.55[Ammo]haste: I won, I conquered the scrollframe :)
10:18.57[Ammo]http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/scroll.jpg
10:19.38steinozomg
10:19.43steinothat was nice ;)
10:20.20[Ammo]haste: working on fixing oRA_Durability (as you might have guessed from the screenshot)
10:20.57[Ammo]need to add the headers to the thing with onclick options etc
10:21.00[Ammo]but that's easy now
10:22.07hastezomg :o
10:23.04NeronixSweet merciful jesus...
10:23.05Neronixhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq_Bj-av3g0
10:23.10NeronixPRO carbon dioxide ad
10:23.14Neronixsponsored by Exxon >.>
10:27.10haste[Ammo]: look good btw :)
10:27.20hastes/k/ks/
10:27.35haste(I still like the gray buttons *hides*)
10:30.01hasteIndustrial: "Aw, I hoped we could get "Burning Blade On Tour - Invading New Realms Every Week!". :("
10:30.04hastefrom the realm forums :p
10:31.50[MoonWolf]lol
10:32.19hastehttp://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-grimbatol-en&t=2802&p=2 << I had to join the flame war :o
10:33.02[MoonWolf]bad haste
10:33.17haste[MoonWolf]: I did it in a smart way!
10:33.24hastelook at the last line *grin*
10:33.24[MoonWolf]what name ?
10:33.33[MoonWolf]ah
10:33.35[MoonWolf]sorry
10:33.37[MoonWolf]slow reader
10:33.38haste^^;
10:33.49steinolol at kangaroo!
10:34.58[MoonWolf]http://ftw.generation.no/?n=1817 <- oh oh
10:35.51[MoonWolf]http://ftw.generation.no/?n=1821 <origami gundam!
10:36.13NeronixWoot!
10:36.54Neronixof all the genres of anime that I need to watch more of, it's got to be Gundam. WTB recommendations :P
10:39.00hastehttp://ftw.generation.no/?n=1503 << whose that again?
10:40.02Neronix[MoonWolf]: Heh, ok then :P
10:40.50hastehe is said to be the most evil man ever, only thing I rememebr :o
10:40.58[MoonWolf]stupid us forums are down again.
10:42.10Wobin_Alistair Crowley?
10:43.04steinoAlister Crowley was once quoted "I am the most evil man alive", lots of people believed him, as he was into black magic and satanic rituals.
10:43.18steinoseems right
10:44.08hasteWobin_: yes!
10:44.11phyber[MoonWolf]: at least when your forums are up they're quick.
10:44.17hasteit's him on the image there
10:44.18hastekek
10:44.29[MoonWolf]he looks like a fool.
10:44.59steinohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alister_Crowley
10:45.01steino!
10:45.04[MoonWolf]and I worship the devil too, ask some idiot christian when he looks at my closet.
10:45.24hastesteino: no shit :p
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10:45.43[MoonWolf]My room is black and red, I have lots of black clothes, I have band shirts, I have two tarot sets.
10:45.54[MoonWolf]evill incarnate
10:46.18Wobin_UNCLEAN!
10:46.23Wobin_Oh wait
10:46.27Wobin_No, just a bit whiffy
10:46.42[MoonWolf]oh yust a sign
10:46.43[MoonWolf]damnit
10:46.48[MoonWolf]I wanted some wood.
10:46.51[MoonWolf]im low on fibers.
10:47.27Wobin_Ow
10:48.26Wobin_<PROTECTED>
10:48.29Wobin_Wow
10:48.40Wobin_It's really hard to type with no index finger
10:48.41Wobin_s
10:49.10[MoonWolf]try your nose
10:53.11Industrialhttp://ftw.generation.no/?n=1821
10:53.12Industrialoh
10:53.13Industrialmy
10:53.14Industrialfucking
10:53.17Industrialgawd!
10:53.25Industrial[MoonWolf]: !
10:53.38[MoonWolf]slow to respond.
10:54.34Industrialfood...
11:00.32Wobin_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg
11:04.52[MoonWolf]that guy is GOOD
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11:05.14Wobin_I don't know how he had the energy to do that skit
11:05.20Wobin_I was tired just watching him
11:07.52CIA-1703maia * r1963 10Squishy/ (core.lua locals.lua): Squishy: fix for frame not showing, added paladin support
11:15.46CIA-1703aileen * r1964 10FuBar_VolumeFu/VolumeFu.lua:
11:15.46CIA-17FuBar_VolumeFu:
11:15.46CIA-17- Updated for 1.2
11:15.46CIA-17- Fixed bug where volume icon did not change when adjusting the master volume
11:32.52CIA-1703aileen * r1965 10FuBar_FarmerFu/ (5 files):
11:32.52CIA-17FuBar_FarmerFu:
11:32.52CIA-17- Updated for 1.2
11:32.52CIA-17- Menu changes to take advantage of new 1.2 features
11:32.52CIA-17- Code rearrangement
11:32.53CIA-17- Uses CrayonLib
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11:36.25NeronixHow often does corruption tick for again? every 3 seconds or 4?
11:36.54Neronixnvm, it's 3 >.<
11:36.56hastethird I think
11:43.42NeronixHe makes 93 friggin tables!
11:43.50Neronixone for each pattern he wants to match ;_;
11:44.05phyberwho does that?
11:44.24Neronixrohpy, in KombatStats
11:44.33phyber:/
11:45.14Neronixthen again, there may be a good reason that my noobish mind didn't figure out
11:52.59phyberlast time Randor was around was december, according to the "last active" thing on the forum :/
11:53.11NeronixHmm, must be because he's needing to monitor all kinds of things rather than just damage/healing amounts
11:54.01NeronixOh well, it'll save him headaches if he used BabbleLib *goes to suggest*
11:55.46Industrialphyber: read the whooole forum then
11:55.54Industrialphyber: hes back under another name
11:56.10phyberIndustrial: ahh. yay. :)
11:56.29phyberwhat's his new name?
11:56.52Industrialno idea
11:56.53Wobin_bah
11:56.55Wobin_just for you indy
11:56.59Industrial?
11:57.00Wobin_I'm gathering a whole batch of ss
11:57.02phyberhehe, ok :)
11:57.09IndustrialWobin_: gud
11:57.15Wobin_But it'd be faster if you just download the mod yourself =P
11:57.33Wobin_Since all of these SS don't show the fact that it's constantly moving =P
11:57.34IndustrialWobin_: look at my idChat post in the addons forum
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11:57.58Industrialthe first one in the thread
11:58.00hasteit's Carigan
11:58.39Industrialhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1347.0.html
11:58.54Industrialhttp://wiki.wowace.com/index.php/IdChat_Addon
11:59.00phyberhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=31
11:59.04phyberoriginal forum name.
12:00.48[MoonWolf]http://www.celestialheavens.com/features/heroespedia/images/a/ac/H5Succubus.jpg <- I want my WoW succubus to like like this. NOW
12:01.19steinoit has hooofs!
12:01.26steinotauren succu!
12:01.32phyberouch, just read Randor's post.  that sucks :/
12:01.46[MoonWolf]it looks pure awesome.
12:02.16Industrialsuccubae have hoofs phyber..
12:02.41phyberI never said they didn't :)
12:03.26Industriallol :P
12:03.43steino:O
12:03.55Industriali mean steino >_>
12:04.09steinoi dont have a succu :(
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12:11.01phybercgiclad|work, here is a working CGI:IRC on #wowace :)
12:11.27phyberhmm, I should probably force my www users to reply with something else :p
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12:13.22Industrialnooooo
12:13.24Industrialno web irc
12:13.25Industrial:(
12:14.03Industrialthat will bring the 'less gifted' that cant figure out how an irc client works onto irc (stupidly enough also the people that SHOULDNT watn anything with addons)
12:14.56phyberwell, clad asked to know about it on the forum.
12:15.22phyberbut I agree. if they can't work out how to use a decent client, they shouldn't be on IRC to begin with.  AOL messenger is that way ---->
12:15.44[MoonWolf]hehe
12:17.48NeronixOne time I spent aday on AIM chat rooms tricking people into formatting their machines
12:18.03NeronixI got close until I realised there was a confirmation message ;_;
12:22.25phyberawww. so close :)
12:26.53IndustrialWobin_: that was just a pointer btw, how i like to do it
12:27.32Wobin_oh no worries Indy
12:27.38Industrialk :)I
12:27.38Wobin_I wasn't even considering that format =P
12:27.49Industrial:p
12:27.55Industrialmeh i meant just put it on the wiki
12:28.03Industrialexplaining everything, even the slash commands
12:28.12Industrialwith shots and stuff
12:28.19Industrialand when ANYONE asks a dumb question
12:28.22Industrialslap em with the link
12:28.29Industrial:D
12:29.48Gngskneronix "format /y c:"
12:29.54Gngskno confirmation!
12:30.04NeronixAnd does it work while windows is running?
12:30.29haste-bash: format: command not found :----(
12:30.29Gngskit did with win95, haven't tried it since though :P
12:31.43Gngskcat /dev/null > /
12:32.12NeronixThanks a bunch. I'll remember it for when the time comes :P
12:32.16hastesteino: http://ftw.generation.no/?n=1142 << flashbacks!
12:32.18Industrialcat /dev/null /dev/dsp
12:32.21Industrialah forgot the command
12:32.25Industrialdev null to audio out
12:32.27Industrialfun
12:32.28Industrial:D
12:32.34Gngskheh
12:32.43steinolol haste
12:32.44steino:P
12:32.51phyberurandom to audio out?
12:33.01hasteI do that at times
12:33.06hasteto test if my soundcard works
12:33.15phyberI imagine that it would sound like a commodore 64 loading up.
12:33.28hastephyber: I can record some if you want me too
12:33.33hasteit's basicly just static
12:34.00phyberI'm ok.  I could do it on my laptop if I really felt the need to :)
12:34.12hastecat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda1 << that one is also nice
12:34.29hasteor hda, depends on what kind of HD you have
12:38.40Industrialphyber: yeah garble
12:38.54*** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=spawnxx@d5153A3AF.access.telenet.be)
12:38.57Tupladyo
12:39.00Industrialoy
12:39.13Tupladzomg it's industrial
12:39.26Tupladis Tyrrael here?
12:39.52Industrial<PROTECTED>
12:39.53phyber/names
12:40.01phybersnap.
12:40.04Industrialkek
12:40.10*** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=spawnxx@d5153A3AF.access.telenet.be)
12:40.14Industrial>_o
12:40.16Tuplad-_-"
12:40.24phyberneat, your client tried to get the names for the whole network!
12:40.30Tupladyep
12:40.31phyberwhich client are you using?
12:40.34Tupladmirc
12:40.40Tupladnow, where's tyrrael ? =:)
12:40.42phyberfigures.  stupid mirc :)
12:41.19Tupladbah
12:41.25Tupladnormally I use xirc
12:41.31Tupladbut cba downloading it
12:41.40phyberdon't you have a nicklist in mirc?  you should easily be able to see if they are here or not ;)
12:43.18Tupladbu'uh
12:43.24Tupladmaybe he/she/it changed nick
12:43.39Industrialmaybe hes a ninja monkey
12:43.41Industrialand flings poo
12:43.47Industrialand disaoppears in couds of smoke
12:44.02Tupladyea
12:44.09Tupladok bah, if he's not here :p question
12:44.30Tupladis there something like LucenUnitFrames that works ?
12:44.51Tupladjust tried minigroup2, eats memory like a mofo and conflicts with perfectraid abit
12:45.22phyberhow does it conflict with perfect raid?
12:45.27phyberI use MG2/PR :)
12:45.41Tupladwhen I join a raid, the frames dont dissapear
12:45.44Tuplad;x
12:46.04Tupladunless something in raid changes, like someone joins raid or some
12:46.06phyberyou can configure that in the settings.  in the party tab, there is an option to hide the frames in a raid.
12:46.09Tupladand I dont like minigroup
12:46.15Industrialdisable the raid frames then?
12:46.18Industrialor dont load em at all
12:46.19Tupladphyber - do I look retarded ?
12:46.42Tupladfirst thing I do when I have an addon is configure it ;p
12:46.54phyberTuplad: no, but since you've only just joined, I have to start at the bottom until I know otherwise.  which I now do :)
12:47.00Tuplad;P
12:47.04Tupladbut umm
12:47.12Tupladwhich unitframes are out there ?
12:47.33Tupladtried Lucen, Perl Classic, Sage, MiniGroup, Standard, Nymbia's
12:47.45TupladLenoleum(or some) too
12:47.57phyberotravi_UnitFrames
12:48.14Tuplad:O is it good ?
12:48.29Industriali use the defualt unit frames
12:48.43Tupladdont like 'em, all those portraits and shit
12:49.16[MoonWolf]minigroup
12:49.26TupladIm using minigroup now wolf
12:49.45[MoonWolf]I just like the way it looks.
12:49.46TupladI liked sage, but it was kinda small and TOO minimalistic
12:49.47NeronixPerl Classic looks nice, isn't THAT bloated, etc
12:49.47[MoonWolf]cant help it.
12:49.58Neronixbut still needs a nice rewrite
12:50.02TainIt's not about "bloat"
12:50.03Neronixand more modularity
12:50.05Tupladminigroup is good, but I dont like it in some way or another
12:50.08TainPeople throw that word around far too much.
12:50.14TainAnd it isn't the right word to use.
12:50.17TupladI just want some pimpish unit frames, gonna try otravi's
12:50.25TainPerl Classic uses a lot of resources because it uses a lot of frames.
12:50.27NeronixWhat should I have said?
12:50.37NeronixYeah, it uses too many
12:52.02TainSomeone could rewrite something to look like Perl using a single frame per, but with textures that make it have the same multiple frame look.
12:52.55Tupladhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full493.jpg - wot unitframes is that guy using ?
12:53.19Tupladoh nvm - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3912
12:53.27NeronixTain: If I ever lose enough of my retardation, I might give that a shot
12:53.53NeronixTuplad: Think it's something done with discord
12:54.01Tupladnope, it's his Clear HUD
12:54.01TainIt actually just struck me as a 'good' idea.  Of course I don't actually want to do it.  heh
12:54.12TupladI like Sage ALOT
12:54.20Tupladbut the style is bit dodgy, dunno
12:55.05phyberhmm.  do you say 'alittle'? :p
12:55.12phyber:)
12:55.43Tupladyeah, a little
12:55.55Tupladone of the best unitframes I used
12:56.05IndustrialTain: is there a frame recycling embed lib?
12:56.14NeronixIndustrial: FreezeFrameLib
12:56.18Industrialk
12:56.20Neronixon the SVN
12:56.21TainI know it's being worked on.
12:56.27TainDon't know how far its progressed.
12:56.31Industrialgood :-)
12:56.37Wobin_It's there
12:56.51Wobin_Technically unreleased since I want to try it with a few more of my mods
12:56.56Wobin_But it works
12:56.58phyberah, Sage is one of Tuller's mods.  he seems to write some nice stuff.
12:57.03NeronixThink we could do that for our Perl?
12:57.04Tupladyea
12:57.21Tupladhttp://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1482/addons9je.png - any addons I could remove ?
12:57.29Tuplador replace by something I havent seen yet
12:58.10phyberhmm, you use KC_Items and Auctioneer?
12:58.19CIA-1703tain * r1968 10FuBar_Experienced/ (FuBar_Experienced.lua FuBar_ExperiencedLocals.lua): FuBar_Experienced - Removed exp history tracking and estimating entirely. Now only shows current exp, exp to level, percentage, etc.
12:58.21NeronixReplace Bongos with Card Bars
12:58.34Tupladphyber: I dont use full KC_Items
12:58.39phyberTuplad: ahh
12:58.40TupladI have KC_Items only for the link viewer
12:58.41NeronixOnly load auctioneer when you need it?
12:58.43Tupladyes
12:58.50Tupladactually, Im 24/7 in AH
12:58.53NeronixI only use KC for linkview and sell prices
12:58.55Tupladbuy low sell high :p
12:58.59TainI'd probably stick with Bongos just for the simple fact that it's actively supported
12:59.01Wobin_FreezeFrameLib currently only deals well with frames and textures. I've not modified it yet to default out other frame deriviatives, but it should work
12:59.21TainWell, if you're worrieda bout that.  I still love CardBars.
12:59.22IndustrialTain: i have one with 30 buttons now..
12:59.33IndustrialTain: nothing more nothing less, 30 bindable buttons on the bottom center :P
12:59.42TainNice Industrial :)
12:59.47TupladI like bongos for the sticky bars =)
12:59.50Industrialactually, 36
12:59.51Industrial:x
13:00.05IndustrialTain: yeah it was/is a start
13:00.07TainThe sticky bugged me just because I didn't spend any time to see if you could adjust how close they stuck to each other.
13:00.14Industrialits friday so ill be working on it again tonight
13:00.36phyberEnchantrix, I forgot why I stopped using that.  Maybe I replaced it with Fizzwidget's_Disenchantamatronic_predicterator or something.
13:00.41TupladKC_Items :: bank, chatlink, common, equipment, inventory, iteminfo, linknet, linkview, module, optimizer, sellvalue, tooltip
13:00.45Tupladthat's all I use
13:00.51NeronixTuplad: Maybe replace Gypsy buff and shell with ct buff?
13:00.51TainWell actually I can't use either Bongos or CardBars at all because all of the bars are 12 buttons and it drives me nuts now.
13:01.16Tupladphyber: it's not activated, only for my lvl 5 disenchanter :)
13:01.22TainI'm sad that Fizzwidget's Shopping List still doesn't work with the current KCI.
13:01.47TupladNeronix: will try
13:02.06phyberFlightMap => FuBar_ToFu
13:02.09NeronixDon't load MonkeyBuddy unless you're configuring
13:02.22TainI'm using SatrinaBuffFrame and like it a lot.
13:02.27Tupladphyber: Replacing in progress ...
13:02.46TupladNeronix: LoadOnDemand: 1 ?
13:02.47Neronixor maybe even replace the monkey stuff with QuestsFu if you don't need some of the monkey features
13:02.52TupladTain: will look at it
13:02.53TainOh and as much as I always loved MonkeyQuest I recently switched to using UberQuest in conjunction with QuestsFu.
13:02.58Industrialquestsfu <3
13:03.06TupladNeronix: I need the tooltip thing [Trolls Slain: 10/14]
13:03.12NeronixAh, ok
13:03.15TainTuplad: QuestsFu
13:03.24TupladTain: it has it ?
13:03.28TainIt certainly does.
13:03.29Neronixand monkey buddy's not LoD, but I use a different way of managing addons ingame
13:03.35TainIT's the only thing that kept me using MonkeyQuest for so long.
13:03.48NeronixGet MCP. It lets you enable/disable addons ingame
13:04.06TainI can't use MCP.
13:04.15Tupladhmm, but what if I add ## LoadOnDemand: 1 in toc ?
13:04.19TainMy dislike of the author precludes me from using any addon no matter how good it is.
13:04.24NeronixIn a raid? Enable oRA and disable some stuff you wouldn't need, then reload
13:04.30NeronixWho wrote it?
13:04.31TupladTain: true, that's why I quit using ItemSync :p
13:04.39Tain~emulate saien
13:04.46purlWhy do I care? Why are you posting here?
13:04.59NeronixWhat's he done? O.o
13:05.08Tupladwho ?
13:05.20TainI just dislike his attitude.  Saien.
13:05.30NeronixI see
13:05.30Tupladoh, yea
13:05.41Neronixnote to self: Write MCP replacement sometime
13:05.47TupladNeronix: you do that.
13:06.00TainA few people have talkeda bout that.  No one's done it though.  Would be nice. :)
13:06.05[Ammo]hmm what would cause a scrollframe not to respond fire OnVerticalScroll's ?
13:06.11[Ammo]it reacts to OnMouseWheel etc
13:06.19TupladAmmo :D
13:06.25TainAhh scrollframes!  Avert your eyes!
13:07.07Tupladoh guys, is there some simple addon that just shows my 2 equipped trinks ? like, it pops up on my screen, movable and stuff
13:07.08phyberScrollframes can cause cancer in laboratory rats.
13:07.52Tuplad_________
13:07.52Tuplad[Trinket 1]
13:07.53Tainheh doesn't one of Saiens other addons do that with trinkets?  
13:08.00Tain(Ironically enough.)
13:08.11Tupladwell
13:08.20Tupladtoo much things I dont need and wont use
13:08.20Tuplad_______
13:08.21Tuplad[Trinket 1]
13:08.21Tuplad_______
13:08.21Tuplad[Trinket 2]
13:08.24Tupladsomething like that
13:08.48Tupladand like, bindable
13:09.07TupladI use dLx_TrinketKeys to bind. But I'd like to see them on my screen aswell
13:09.21TekkubTrinketBar (or is that TrinketMenu?) or ItemRack
13:09.22Neronixgah, too complex for me >.<
13:09.23Tupladlol
13:09.28TekkubI'd just use ItemRack
13:09.32TupladTekkub: let's see
13:09.37[Ammo]ItemRack is perfect
13:09.41Tupladkk, lets see
13:09.42[Ammo]anyway: http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/scroll.jpg  
13:09.46[Ammo]my frame looks pretty and all
13:09.57[Ammo]but the FauxScroll thing refuses to work
13:09.58Tupladomg sexeh
13:10.00[Ammo]it shows the buttons
13:10.12Tupladwhen u releasing that ammo ?:O
13:10.13NeronixI could probably rewrite the GUI in dewdrop or tablet
13:10.13[Ammo]and if it contains less than the max entries the scroll buttons dissapear
13:10.14[Ammo]etcv
13:10.16TekkubYou'll quickly fine yourself slipping you weapon or other equips onto ItemRack too :)
13:10.20Tekkubit's so nice...
13:10.24IndustrialNeronix: MCP?
13:10.28NeronixIndustrial: yeah
13:10.35Industrial<PROTECTED>
13:10.35[Ammo]Neronix: tablet and dewdrop suck
13:10.41TupladTekkub: I bet, cuz I have my weapons on bars atm
13:10.42[Ammo]they're not friendly in use
13:10.45NeronixWell, I can't do xml
13:10.47TekkubI need to fix the enable/disable crap in ModMenu
13:10.50[Ammo]me neither :)
13:11.02Neronixand I kinda liked using them for NS
13:11.03[Ammo]it's all in .lua xcept the scrollframe thing
13:11.23Tekkubwhat's wrong with tablet/dewdrop?
13:11.32[Ammo]it's API is weird
13:11.33TainItemRack couldn't handle (or I couldn't figure out how to make it handle) one of my Rogue equips.
13:11.35TainBut I think it's ok now.
13:11.39[Ammo]I can't get it to fit in my head
13:11.59Tuplad:0
13:12.00TainTablet is ok, dewdrop is not quite to my sensibilities, but then again neither is the Blizzard menu api.
13:12.01Tekkubyes it is, because the table-passing method that blizzy's menu uses wastes memory unless you're damn careful
13:12.05IndustrialNeronix: WHATS MCP?
13:12.07Industrial:P
13:12.28NeronixIndustrial: oh sorry XD It's a menu that lets you enable/disable addons ingame
13:12.31Tupladso, monkeyquest is fully replaceable by FuBar_QuestsFu ?
13:12.36[Ammo]my whole scroll thing should work, the OnVerticalScroll is just never fired for some odd reason
13:12.43[Ammo]as if the whole thing is disabled
13:12.53NeronixTuplad: I dunno if it does the tooltip thing
13:12.58[Ammo]Tuplad: yes
13:12.59TainTuplad: If you want the onscreen quest frame like monkey quest you can use UberQuest.
13:13.07TainIn addition to QuestsFu
13:13.11TupladTain: nah, I'll detach tooltip
13:13.13[Ammo]just use QuestFu and detach the tooltip
13:13.16NeronixIt uses the blizzard minion
13:13.16IndustrialNeronix: ah ic
13:13.17TainYep there's that too.
13:13.17Tupladexactly =)
13:13.21IndustrialNeronix: i vote tablet
13:13.22[Ammo]it can show objectives in tooltips too
13:13.30Tupladimba
13:13.43NeronixTabletLib saved me a lot of bother, so I'll probably stick with it
13:13.52TupladToFu compatible with ArcHud ?
13:13.56TainIt's just that you can't (or can you?) only have certain quests show in the tooltip.
13:14.33TainThat's why I still use UberQuest with it, I like having that quick heads up of just a few active quests.
13:14.59TainOff to forage for coffee, brb.
13:15.47Tupladhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4204 - that's one sexy addon :O
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13:26.11Tuplad[Ammo] : http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1267.40.html
13:29.51TainI do like that StatusWindow addon, nothing I can see using it for.  All the info I use is on FuBar.
13:30.13Tupladyep, but still, that could be the second FuBar somewhen
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13:31.17[Ammo]bloody scrollframe
13:31.24ShyvaYow
13:31.33Tupladyow
13:34.39TupladIs there something that could replace ArcHUD ? I dont need all those partyrings and target('s target) and all the crap it has, I just need the 4 bars - My health & my mana, target's health & mana and castingbar ofc :)
13:35.49phyberDrathul's HUD, maybe.
13:36.03Tupladhm, was looking at it - does it have a casting bar ?
13:36.43phyberyup
13:36.55phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_042206_214756.jpg
13:37.26phyberin the mana bar on the right, you see it's surrounded in green because I've just finished casting.
13:37.32phyberbut that goes up the mana bar as you cast.
13:37.58Tupladzomg, that's one sexy UI
13:38.11Tupladhttp://www.beverpung.net/ ROFL, found while searching for otravi's siteµ
13:38.13Tupladsite*
13:39.53phyberI changed my UI a bit since then.  one moment..
13:39.59IndustrialTuplad: ^^
13:40.09Tuplad:P
13:41.05phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_050606_162445.jpg
13:41.12phyberrescaled and fubar'ed up :)
13:41.54phybertook that screenshot when somebody shrunk onyxia :)
13:42.09Tupladdont like the font
13:43.03phyberi think i changed the font again since then.  I'm not really happy with any fonts that I've tried.
13:43.13Tupladclearfont, statisfies me
13:43.21Tupladnot that I like wank over it, it's aight
13:43.39Industriali use myriad web
13:43.43Industrialfontabulous
13:43.49Tupladlets check
13:44.09hasteBitstream vera !
13:44.24Neronix`foodBitstream vera serif = MY EYES >.<
13:44.32Neronix`foodBitstream vera sans = <3
13:44.38hasteI use vera sans :p
13:44.38Tainhaha
13:44.42Tupladhasteee =D
13:45.09Tupladcould anyone gimme a screenschot of otravi_unitframes? :P I wanna see them in action not just the target frame
13:45.17phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/WoWScrnShot_051606_214424.jpg
13:45.19hasteor rather... generate the menue when needed
13:45.19phyberthis one now :)
13:45.30phyberI think that's just the default fontabulous one.
13:45.34hastephyber: http://www.fuxsake.net/filer/oUF_GonffBar.mpeg << movie?
13:45.44hasteand the GUI of fontabulous.............
13:45.51hasteit's SO ugly :<
13:45.53TainI still like WatchDog for unit frames.
13:45.54hasteand borked!
13:47.07Tupladhttp://www.fuxsake.net/filer/oUF_GonffBar.mpeg
13:47.10Tupladfirst thing I see is a linux console
13:47.19hasteI used Xvidcap !
13:47.20Tupladlooks like gnome to me
13:47.21hasteso fuck off
13:47.25hasteit's fluxbox
13:47.30Tupladsame shit
13:47.49hasteit's the top of my XMMS actually :p
13:48.06Tupladbadass frames
13:48.11TainThat's pretty.
13:48.15NeronixHmm, I need a Fat32 partition for WoW
13:48.22phyberdoesn't play properly on this machine.  windows is inferior.
13:48.22hastewhy fat32?
13:48.31Neronixso I can play in linux if I ever decide to try it again
13:48.39Neronixand windows at the same time
13:48.41hasteNeronix: I use ReiserFS4
13:48.52NeronixIs there a windows driver for it?
13:48.57hastebut then again... windows might not like that ^^;
13:49.01Neronixor even ext2/3?
13:49.03TainI used ReiserFS for a few years until I realized you're fucked for support for other OSs.
13:49.21hasteI only use Linux :o
13:49.33TainI couldn't switch to FreeBSD when I wanted to because I didn't have enough storage to move my stuff off of the big Reiser partition I had.
13:49.43NeronixI'd try reiser for / if I get interested in linux again
13:49.44Tupladhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full2543.jpg - anyone knows what chat addon he uses ?
13:50.08TainWhat are you looking at with the chat addon?
13:50.23Tupladthe colors, the [2.] and the timestamps
13:50.28TainRemoving the buttons and the timestamps could be either idChat or ChatScroll
13:50.41TupladI use idChat :p [10:22] [1. General] [Tuplad]: omgwtf gief gold.
13:50.57TainOh the [2.] Dunno, haven't seen that before.
13:51.00Tupladbut well, industrial is too lazy to add abbrevations for channels
13:51.10Tupladsccn has it
13:51.12Tuplador some
13:51.21Tupladthe addon that colorizes nicks
13:51.29TainSomeone here did an addon to colorize nicks and I hated it.  heh
13:51.32phyberI think someone in the forums was asking about that shortened channels thing, can't remember what addon they said it was though
13:51.35TainIt drove me crazy.
13:51.56hastecoloring nicks = bad
13:52.06hastemakes them hard to read :<
13:52.10hasteand kow confused :(
13:52.16Tupladcolor nick by class = good
13:52.27TupladIndustrial, gief abbrevations for channel names plx !
13:53.42phyberCleanChat, that's the one that colours names and shortens the thingys.
13:53.46hasteomg... the UI Tuplad linked to has 43MB BASE usage :<
13:53.55TupladO________O ME ?
13:53.56phyberoh, Tuplad, it was you that posted it :p
13:54.07Tupladbah
13:54.07phyber"Bah ! This addon disabled CleanChat, so now I see the ugly [LookingForGroup - City] thing that takes half of my chat Sad And no name colors !! OMG. APOCALYPSE!"
13:54.09TupladIm acing now :p
13:54.18phyberhehe
13:54.25TupladxD
13:57.12Tupladsec
13:57.14Tupladuploading addon list
13:57.34Tupladhttp://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2293/addons7af.png
13:57.36Tupladthere, bit aced
13:57.51hasteI wish I could just "upload" my addon list :p
13:58.06Tupladu_u
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13:58.12TupladSnagIt 7
13:58.38TainI hate the new layout of curse-gaming so much.
13:58.43Tupladyeh
13:58.46Tupladtoo much images
13:58.58hastewell, I have like... 40 addons I don't use
13:59.03hastewhich just are there "in-case" and such
13:59.12Tuplad:0
13:59.14hastethat looked russian btw Tuplad :p
13:59.18Tupladyeh
13:59.25Tuplad@echo off
13:59.25Tupladdir /B /ON > list.txt
13:59.25Tupladecho ********************
13:59.25Tupladecho * list.txt *
13:59.25Tupladecho ********************
13:59.26Tupladstart list.txt
13:59.28Tupladlist.bat
13:59.31hastekek
13:59.32Tupladput in your addon folder
13:59.44Tupladyeh :p I needed a list of my addons once, so I created it
13:59.49hasteI still don't run Windows, and I don't need to generate a list over 40 addons I don't use
13:59.54Tupladoh, true
13:59.55Tupladforgot
13:59.56hastethat was the 'issue' ;)
14:00.20hastebtw, does that mean you know russian ^^; ?
14:00.21Tupladremoved InventoryOnPar btw
14:00.31TupladI am Russian ¬_¬
14:00.34hastesomeone said to me that otravi ment poison or something in russian once :p
14:00.36phyberhttp://cardboardium.com/sshots/addons.txt
14:00.38phyberscreenshot :)
14:00.40hastewtb answer
14:00.41Tupladotravi, yes
14:00.52Tupladnever thought about that
14:00.57hasteI find that slightly ironic
14:01.02Tupladlike, if I say, otravi ego, means, poison him
14:01.13hastehaha
14:01.19hasteI have to abuse that *notes*
14:01.31TupladxD
14:01.38Tupladphyber: zip and send to tuplad@gmail.com
14:01.55phyberall of the addons?
14:02.00Tupladye
14:02.03Tupladexcept the Blizzard_ ones
14:02.08Tupladanywayz, afk for 15 mins
14:02.16Tupladgotta go pickup some bling bling from da bank
14:02.35haste:o
14:02.55phybersome stuff there isn't used or is disabled or is my crappy attempt at some new addon.
14:02.56phyberBagSlots/
14:02.57phyberfor example.
14:03.02Tuplad^afksend 'em all
14:03.09phyberI wanted to overlay a little thing over each bag saying <used>/<total>
14:03.26phyberbut so far, I've failed ;)
14:03.27Tuplad^afkusually I just look at *tocs and see their purpose, then test them =]
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14:03.35Tuplad^afkif nothing in toc, check the lua files
14:03.38phyberlike in Bag_Status_Meters, but without all the extra garbage.
14:03.45Tuplad^afkbah
14:03.48Tuplad^afkI dont even have the bags on my screen
14:03.51Tuplad^afkBagnon ftw?
14:04.08TainBagnon plus MrPlow.
14:04.19Tuplad^afkdont use mrplow
14:04.22Tuplad^afkseems useless to me tbh
14:04.25Taingah
14:04.26TainIt's invaluable.
14:04.38TainEspecially with a single window bag addon.
14:04.52Tuplad^afkI dont even understand the purpose of the addons like itemsync's bagview, bagboy, mrplow
14:05.07Tainwell those are all vastly different things.
14:05.13Tuplad^afkIm off now :p
14:05.52Tuplad^afkbe back in 15 mins
14:06.04Tuplad^afkpm me all your love letters
14:07.04TainHow do I love MrPlow, let me count the ways.
14:08.07Neronixwot!
14:08.10Neronixhttp://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/projects/projects.htm#ext2fsd
14:10.23ElkanoI should stop thinking that much about my addons :/ in my thoughts I've already extracted two new embeded libs from ItemDB :/
14:12.03phyberwould it be possible to write an embedded lib to save/restore frame positions?
14:13.12ElkanoI don't think that embedded libs can have SVs so it would be hard
14:13.29phyberhttp://www.kryogenix.org/days/2006/05/18/keyboards
14:15.54ElkanoI don't get the last one :/
14:16.09phyberheh, the scouse keyboard is probably the best one ;)
14:16.22phyberunless you've heard someone from liverpool speaking, you won't get it though.
14:16.32Elkanok ^^
14:26.31hasteauto-away :<
14:27.34phyberauto-away isn't a bad thing.  I auto-away after 30 mins.  but announcing it is evil.
14:27.52hasteyeh, it's the announce I hate :p
14:34.40Tupladhm
14:34.52CIA-1703wobin * r1969 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - Fixed the orientation toggle to work
14:35.00Tupladwtf is that cia-17 thing ?
14:35.08Gngsk|AFKevil bot
14:35.29TainCIA-17 reports on wowace svn commits.
14:35.35Tupladaight
14:35.41Tupladhm, so is mrplow worth downloading ?
14:35.45Tupladno GUIs or shit I hope
14:35.55TainIf there's a GUI I haven't seen it.
14:36.01Tupladk
14:37.42Tupladhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-3953-1-witchhunt-04.html zomg
14:38.25Tuplad[Ammo]; request access to the addon so you can manage it
14:40.29TupladAnyone has Tyrrael's warmup version ?
14:41.51hastenope :o
14:42.14Tupladomg
14:42.30hasteI should make a warmup.lua SV to HTML converter =\
14:42.58Tupladyes please
14:42.59Tupladdo it now
14:43.01Tuplad;p
14:43.14hasteI need 200 herbing first :p
14:43.20Tuplad=_=
14:43.22Tupladgief account
14:43.56Tupladhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/!!Warmup/
14:43.59Tupladhere it is o_O
14:44.05TupladI just compared my code with that code
14:44.06Tupladdifferent
14:44.39hastedon't think so
14:44.46hasteTekkub added color coding and something to that version
14:44.49Tupladoh
14:44.50Tupladgreat
14:44.52Tupladlets test then :)
14:44.56TupladI haev a bunch of new addons too xD
14:45.01Tupladgonna test ur UFs
14:45.28hastekek
14:45.35hasteAUF breaks on some clients =\
14:45.54hasteThink I know the problem about the default party interface showing
14:46.28hasteRaidOptionsFrame_UpdatePartyFrames() << Function of evil!
14:47.21Tupladomgwtf, I have informant and KC_Items ?!
14:47.32Tupladhaste, can u fix it ?
14:47.42TupladI really luv AUF + LUF
14:51.58Tupladbah
14:52.06TupladIm using otravi, invite someone to group, and dont see anyone in group -_-"
14:52.22Tupladoh, now I do
14:53.28hasteI was going to tell Lucen *highlites* about hooking RaidOptionsFrame_UpdatePartyFrames() to prevent the blizz UI from refershing *cough*
14:54.06Lucenoo...does it call ShowParty()?
14:54.14hasteand hide
14:54.19hastedepending on the raid settings
14:54.29hastewas fun thinking that one out
14:54.41Lucengotcha...should just hook ShowParty
14:54.52Lucenand have it do nothing
14:55.05Lucenwhich..i'm actually doing in my rewrite
14:55.07Tupladomg *drool*
14:55.20hastemeep, I just hook that function and use it to toggle the "View in raid or not" option on my frames
14:55.33TupladWill Lucen succeed in his epic quests ? Dont miss the next episode of "Lucen Unit Frames-Z" !
14:55.44Lucenooo..yeah..that's a good one haste
14:55.46Tupladquest*
14:56.00hasteLucen: you should do the same with partypets and PartyMemberFrame_UpdatePet :)
14:56.01Luceneh, i have all the frames up and working
14:56.12Lucenhahaha
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14:56.24hasteTuplad: turn that off, please :D
14:59.39Amadeo_haste: How's your task list coming!
15:01.58hasteAmadeo_: look yourself :p ?
15:02.19Amadeo_I'd love to, what's the link? :P
15:02.34Tupladhmm what the
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15:03.19hasteAmadeo_: http://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/haste/342102/
15:03.44Amadeo_thank ya :)
15:03.49TupladI dont understand a SHIT of itemrack
15:04.11hasteTuplad: you have to set the items on the first set
15:04.17hastethe buttons are greyed out
15:04.28TupladI dont need no sets
15:04.30Amadeo_nice :)
15:04.33hastewhen you have set a item on one slot (or all you want a item on) you can save
15:04.34TupladI need a trinket to show up at my screen so I can click it
15:04.50Tekkubthat's your whole list haste?
15:05.03hasteTekkub: nope, that's my public list
15:05.09Tekkubah :)
15:05.15Neronixhaste: is the OUF on SVN the older version or this rewritten one?
15:05.22hasteold
15:05.25NeronixI see
15:05.31TekkubI have... lesse... 36 things in my wow list
15:05.36Amadeo_He wants to make sure I suffer!
15:05.58Tekkubwait, read wrong number
15:06.05Tekkub61 things in my wow list
15:06.36TupladTekkub: explain ItemRack to me
15:06.50Tekkublern2readthefaq!
15:07.03Tekkubopen your char panel, alt click the slots you want on the bar
15:07.12Tekkubgo from there :P
15:07.59[Ammo]doh
15:08.04[Ammo]I made such a stupid mistake
15:08.05Tuplado_O
15:08.07Tekkubhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4148
15:08.09Tekkubgo, read
15:08.29[Ammo]first show the frame, then try and update the scrollbar :)
15:08.32Tupladok, done that
15:08.33[Ammo]not the other way around
15:08.35TupladI mean the alt cilcking
15:08.36[Ammo]took me only 3 hours
15:08.39[Ammo]fucking scrollframes
15:08.50[Ammo]all my code was correct, just had to switch those 2 lines around
15:09.43haste[Ammo]: hate when that happens
15:10.14NeronixHahaha: http://donnysblog.com/one-month-of-torrents-is-worth-more-than-the-gdp-of-france-riaa-rant.php
15:11.27Tekkubyea... stupid people
15:11.40Tekkubtheir "lost revenue" is not from lawsuits...
15:11.44Tekkub:P
15:12.10Tekkublern2accounting!
15:12.44Neronixit's actually a joke article
15:12.48TekkubI know
15:13.00Neronixabout how the RIAA's entire strategy is based on the crazy 150k figure
15:13.12Neronixah
15:14.11hasteomg Tekkub!
15:14.19Tekkubwhat?
15:14.22hasteBigWigs is reporting it's scale when you reload etc!
15:14.27hastesuch chat spam
15:14.32Tekkubbitch at hand
15:14.41Tekkubhe's the one that put it in
15:14.42Shyvaalways bitch at him :p
15:15.10hastehand isn't on IRC meep!
15:15.59Tupladitemrack is sucky ;\
15:16.32hasteI'm thinking about making AceWardrobe mini or something
15:16.41hasteor.. I've been thinking for a while
15:16.54hastewhich just saves your current gear and gives you a function to change it
15:17.08NeronixYay! finally got RTM working for netvibes!
15:17.10Neronix/dance
15:17.11[Ammo]wardrobe is already pretty mini
15:17.12hasteItemRack is such a overkill for me
15:17.30haste[Ammo]: yeah, but it saves things strange, and has features that doesn't work
15:17.38[Ammo]hmm
15:17.39hastelike turning of mount gear
15:17.43GenNMX|ThraeItemRack is pretty tight as well
15:17.50hasteor changing gear on -combat, +combat
15:17.56[Ammo]k
15:18.05hasteI just need an addon that: saves gear and can change
15:18.22TupladI dont need itemrack for that
15:18.28Tupladthat crap addon cant even simply show my gear & trinket
15:18.35hasteit can't?
15:18.40haste(yes it can!)
15:18.51Tupladit can, but in a lame way
15:18.58haste:<
15:19.09GenNMX|Thrae"In a lame way"?
15:19.20Tekkub*yawn* *eyeroll*
15:20.48Tupladyea
15:20.53Tupladbah
15:21.22TupladI think if I just made a new bar with bongos and put all the things I need on it, it would work better ;_;
15:21.48Tekkubsomeone's not an engineer, obviously
15:22.40Tupladye
15:22.45Tupladskinner/miner ;D
15:23.03TupladIm playing a bubbleboy
15:23.28CIA-1703neronix * r1970 10NanoStats/ (Changelog.txt NanoStats.lua):
15:23.29CIA-17NanoStats
15:23.29CIA-17- Removed unnecessary updater call at -combat. Should in turn make the DPS displayed slightly more accurate
15:24.24TupladTabletLib.lua:2349: Detached tooltip has no owner.
15:24.24Tuplad---
15:24.24TupladTried to detach fubar_questsfu
15:30.10Tupladanyone knows why CCWatch doesnt work with Paladin ?
15:32.53TainYeesh.  ItemRack isn't a "crap addon"
15:33.01Gngskheh
15:34.19Tupladit is, actually
15:34.52weabi use it.
15:35.08TainNo, it isn't.  It may not be an addon you choose to use, but that isn't any reason to call it crap.
15:35.36Tuplad=)
15:35.52Tupladit's one hell of a crap for me
15:36.37Tupladso, I have my shield & 1h on it
15:36.47TupladI have to hover over 1h to choose my polearm
15:37.09Tupladif I choose my polearm, I only see my polearm, to equip the things I had, I need to hover oer polearm, click on 1h, hover over empty shield slot, click on shield
15:37.42Gngskor you could use IsSetEquipped() to make a macro to switch between 1h+shield and polearm
15:37.44Lucenthat's what it's supposed to do :P
15:37.47TainAh, so you're not using it in a way in which it works properly.
15:38.11CIA-1703wobin * r1971 10GonffBar/ (GonffBar.lua GonffBarLocals.lua): GonffBar - fixed a few typos involving the color setting and renamed energy and noenergy to energy and enoughenergy to be clearer about function
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15:39.47Wobin_k
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15:39.56Wobin_I'm going to nap a bit
15:40.00Wobin_not feeling so well =(
15:40.10Amadeo_I hear ya, I can't shake this cold
15:40.14Amadeo_Night, Wobin_ :)
15:40.21Wobin_night =)
15:40.22Tupladwell
15:40.25[MoonWolf]night.... or sleep tight anyway.
15:40.28TupladItemRack is like a Wardrobe and Trinketmenu ?
15:40.28CIA-1703ammo * r1972 10oRA_Durability/ (3 files): oRA_Durability: Added new style frame with scrollability. Sorting is still done via the commandline. Will make the headertexts clickable shortly...
15:40.40[Ammo]Tuplad: it combines both yeah
15:40.49[Ammo]finally finished the damn scrollthing
15:41.24Tupladhm ;p I dont need 'em both ;( Isnt there just something that displays my trinkets ?
15:41.32[Ammo]TrinketMenu
15:42.06[Ammo]damn happy atm
15:42.11[Ammo]bloody scrollframe almost did my head in
15:42.23[Ammo]a beer made me see the light
15:43.01Tupladlol
15:43.27weabhm. if one beer lets you see the light, how many do i need to down to see nude angels?
15:44.05[Ammo]no idea
15:44.17weabi was hoping you'd say that. time to experiment!
15:44.30Tupladwth is wrong with FuBar_GuildFu & FuBar_FriendsFu ?
15:44.40TupladEverytime I logon only they reset, the rest is on their position.
15:45.31[Ammo]they're not updated to the newest fubar api I think
15:45.44[Ammo]because cknight likes to change the api every week :p
15:46.26Tuplad-_-"
15:46.33Tupladcould you tell me what to change ? :p
15:46.54Gngskread API-1.0 and API-1.2 files in FuBar/
15:48.08GngskTuplad, are you using Tekkub's brances from svn?
15:48.19Gngsk*branches
15:48.19Tupladerm
15:48.22Tupladdont think so
15:48.33GngskI think he updated those to 1.2 api, let me check
15:48.50Tupladk
15:48.56TupladI'll D/L them :p need to relog anyways
15:49.17Ratbert_CP[Ammo]: Those ScrollFrames are killers, aren't they?
15:49.25Gngskyea, he did /root/branches/FuBar_GuildFu and FuBar_FriendsFu
15:49.45Ratbert_CPI need to get someone to patch the 1.3 AceGUI to fix some lingering issues with them...
15:49.49[Ammo]they are killers
15:49.53[Ammo]but I got it to work :)
15:49.58[Ammo]with minimal .xml
15:50.06Tupladk thx Gngsk
15:50.08[Ammo]<PROTECTED>
15:50.09[Ammo]etc
15:51.22[Ammo]if only I could do CreateFrame("ScrollFrame", "MyName", UIParent, "Inheritsfromhere")
15:51.29[Ammo]but meh
15:51.35Tupladhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/Mendeleev_KCI/ what's that ?
15:51.36Ratbert_CP:)
15:51.38[Ammo]can someone pester slouken on the forums :)
15:51.47[Ammo]to get that parameter added
15:52.24Ratbert_CPTem's working on reworking AceGUI to be 100% luacode...  I think he's waiting for 1.11 and some critical API.
15:52.54Ratbert_CPThe probelm with inherits is that the lua sandbox has no visibility into the XML.  You can't inherit.
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15:53.01Ratbert_CP:(
15:53.05Tupladwhoa, major disconnect o_O
15:53.09Tem|Sleeptrust me
15:53.10Tupladhttp://svn.wowace.com/root/branches/Mendeleev_KCI/ so, what's that ?
15:53.18Tem|Sleepyou don't want to be able to inherit from blizzard xml templates
15:53.26Ratbert_CP:)
15:53.34[Ammo]I probably don't
15:53.43[Ammo]but it's fast for scrollbars etc
15:53.52[Ammo]I could code them myself
15:54.02[Ammo](been in the blizz files a lot today)
15:58.28HoJ|SlaymanWobin_ u here somewhere?
15:58.36[Ammo][17:42] ùíù Signoff Wobin_: #wowace ("Leaving")
15:58.37Tuplad0.204 sec | Strip (9KiB)
15:58.41Tupladunbelievable
15:59.36HoJ|Slaymanthat sucker he knew i was going to beat him up virtually
16:00.23[Ammo]hehe
16:02.06Slaymangood morning cairenn
16:02.14Cairennmorning slay
16:02.52Tupladanyone has URL for MCP ?
16:02.57TupladI forgot the real name >_<
16:03.39[Ammo]what is MCP anyway?
16:03.42GenNMX|ThraeTuplad: MCP is the real name. Master Control Program by Saien.
16:04.22GenNMX|ThraeIt's the only Saien addon I will ever use. Very simple, allows you to change which addons are enabled while in-game and after a /reloadui.
16:04.47Ratbert_CPFrom what I heard, Saien absconded with his addons when he left WoW...
16:05.15Ratbert_CPStripped them from his site, etc., etc.  Completely in character for him...
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16:09.53Tupladcant find it
16:11.19Amadeo_That's ok
16:11.22Amadeo_the new AutoBar sucks anyway
16:11.31Amadeo_too bad there's nothing better (that I know of) :P
16:11.40TupladI cant find Master Control Panel I mean
16:11.55Amadeo_Tuplad: It's in the Nurfed Alpha
16:12.02Tupladk
16:12.06Tupladnurfedui ?
16:12.12Amadeo_yep
16:12.16Amadeo_it's on the forums
16:12.19Tupladhttp://pgl.yoyo.org/wow/addons/inuse/MCP/MCP.lua
16:12.21Amadeo_"Just a little taste" or something
16:14.13Amadeo_Someone gonna make an Ace AutoBar? :)
16:14.59Tupladyes plz
16:15.06[Ammo]learn to code and make it
16:15.35Amadeo_There's enough coders already!
16:15.41Tupladyea :p
16:16.07Amadeo_I wouldn't want to put you guys out of jobs, I'm here to support you
16:16.10Amadeo_:D
16:16.33phyberwho here made FarmerFu?
16:16.35phyberlatest SVN has issues.
16:16.38phyberFarmerFu.lua:160: function arguments expected near `,' ---
16:16.46Tupladhttp://www.nurfedui.net/ cant find Alpha
16:16.55Amadeo_Tuplad: www.nurfed.com
16:16.57Amadeo_go to the forums
16:16.58NeronixTuplad: On the forums
16:17.04GenNMX|ThraeThere are never enough good coders.
16:17.10NeronixFirst sticky
16:17.24Tupladk
16:20.00Tupladcrap
16:20.02TupladI have to login
16:20.03Tupladcan u gimme link ? :p
16:30.55Tupladamadeo
16:30.57Tupladsend again ?
16:30.59TupladI wasnt looking >_<
16:31.14Tupladsexeh, thx
16:31.18Amadeo_sure
16:31.23Amadeo_I wouldn't use the other addons
16:31.26Amadeo_they're still pretty buggy
16:31.39Tupladonly MCP
16:34.44phyberHmm.  well, this is an interesting new problem.  it seems like some "invisible frame" is staying open on my screen sometimes.
16:34.55phyberpreventing me from looting, speaking to people, opening social panel, etc.
16:35.27phyberdidn't have this a few days ago, I guess some addon from SVN is doing it :)
16:35.35ElkanoAmadeo, the only nurfed addon I'm using is the NurfedHUD that was based on Iriel's StatsRings... though I also change some parts of the code...
16:43.56hasteTekkub: damn you! You have increased the number of questions I get by one!
16:44.08hasteTekkub: "My MTs target don't work?"
16:52.35phyberoh, neat.  it's MetaMap screwing up my stuff :)
16:54.13Amadeo_Elkano: I'm using ArcHUD right now, how does it differ?
16:54.39ElkanoI don'T know ArcHUD
16:55.33Temhaste: that's because PRT sucks
16:55.38Amadeo_All I know is ArcHUD is Ace! So I was happy :D
16:55.46hasteTem: gogo complete yours ! ;)
16:56.02TemI'm working on it right now
16:56.06haste*cheers*
16:56.23Temmy mouse is being all retarded and not working right
16:56.36Amadeo_I love MetaMap, but I actually don't need even a quarter of its features
16:56.44Tupladtem is making a hud ?
16:56.46Amadeo_I just like how the map doesn't take up the whole screen and it can go transparent
16:57.12Temno, I'm making an MT display
16:57.25Temfor oRA
16:57.46phyberAmadeo_: same here.
16:57.58Temsince someone already made ora MainTankFrames I need a frame
16:58.10hastename?
16:58.10Elkanohmm, maybe I should try it, looks similar to the version of NervedHUD I'm using...
16:58.20Elkanobut where to get it from?
16:58.34Elkanoah, curse has it
16:58.39Temmy "hud of choice" is DHUD
16:58.51Temit's a bit.. scary under the hood
16:59.00hastemy "hud of choice" is none.
16:59.06Tembut... it's so... pretty
16:59.16Elkanono wonder it looks similar... it's based on mine ^^
16:59.24Amadeo_Tem: I was having a problem with DHUD working with MiniGroup2
16:59.27Amadeo_So I ditched it :(
16:59.33TemI hate, hate, *HATE* huds on my mage
16:59.39Tembut on my rogue, I find it useful
16:59.43hasteI like the look on ArcHud better then DHUD ! :O
16:59.50Tembrb
17:00.04Amadeo_ArcHUD isn't bad, I wish I could change the look though :)
17:00.13Amadeo_I'm using it, but the bars are so skinny that I forget to look at them
17:00.13Amadeo_haha
17:02.51Tupladye
17:02.56Tupladsomeone should make a pimpish one
17:03.28Tupladcheck this: http://forums.nurfed.com/showthread.php?t=6553
17:05.38Amadeo_I actually like the bubbles best
17:05.51hasteHuds makes me cry
17:06.00Amadeo_but they're kinda big
17:06.13hasteit's like: HELLO I'm THIS GIANT HEALTHBAR IN YOUR FACE, K?!
17:06.34TupladI like huds
17:06.41Amadeo_haste: Well I don't have any good unit frames to help me out :)
17:06.46Tupladsame
17:06.51Amadeo_hahah
17:07.10haste*hides*
17:08.02Amadeo_I'm using Sage right now
17:08.14Amadeo_but the buffs/debuff placement is horrible
17:08.17Amadeo_and you can't change it
17:09.11Tupladhaste, make the buffs bigger in otravi_ UF
17:09.30hasteTuplad: I'm giving you the ability to size them
17:09.39haste(and move)
17:09.49Amadeo_:D
17:11.16Tupladno shit ? o_O
17:11.25Tupladhmm, bug ? otravi_UF wont hide when I join raid
17:12.29haste_might_ be 'cause the 1.6.X versions are rather incomplete ^^
17:12.55haste1.6.1: 09.04.2006
17:13.08steinoyay! i made gonff fit my ouf energy bar
17:13.11steino^^
17:14.17hastesteino: it won't always be placed correctly tho'
17:14.26steinoi know.. im like 1px off
17:14.31steinoit irritates me abit
17:14.36steino...
17:15.59Industrialfreeeedoooooooommmmm
17:16.30TupladI have /1.6.2
17:17.04haste1.6.2 was a quick release
17:17.15Tupladbuggedy bug, here we go again, party frames wont go away and stuff :(
17:17.19hasteonly change it removal of some unused code and the hooks
17:17.51hasteTuplad: and it would help if you said something like this: The default party interface does not hide as it should. I'm currently in a raid using 1.6.2 ;)
17:18.00hasteTuplad: 'cause I'm guessing you are in a raid now
17:18.08Tupladmy ass, Im lazy
17:18.11steinoneed ouf2 :(
17:18.15hasteTuplad: and I'm also guessing that the "Hide party interface" is off
17:18.25Tupladyeh I was inraid
17:18.27Tupladin raid*
17:18.30hasteTuplad: (the option at the bottom left in Interface Options)
17:18.38hastesince AUF doesn't hook the proper function
17:18.44hasteLucen: we should really fix that :p
17:18.53Tupladjust turned that thing on
17:19.07Tupladfix it, I know you got a workaround
17:19.14hasteI have in oUF2
17:19.24hasteI basicly hook it, and replace the function with my own
17:19.39hasteand use it to toggle if the frames should be shown in a raid or not *grin*
17:20.00hasteI do the same with the Party Pet option
17:20.11hastebut I haven't completed the partypet part yet
17:20.25Tupladlet me test ouf2
17:20.36steinonot even i have ouf2 :O
17:20.40steinoso evhol!
17:20.45hasteI can pretty much test it myself ;)
17:20.51hastesince there aren't any options yet
17:21.57Tupladno, let me test it :a)
17:22.03hastethere is only one person besides me that has a copy of oUF2
17:22.17steinoi know who!
17:22.21steino:P
17:22.25hasteoh rly?
17:22.28steinoyes
17:22.32steinocause you told me
17:22.34hastehmm, might not be so strange that you know :p
17:22.41hasteyeah, I remembered that
17:22.41steinoNO
17:22.47steinoI JUST HEARD OOMCOW
17:22.50steino*mutes*
17:23.00hasteoh shit, they pulled :p
17:23.09steinoyes we did
17:23.31steinoxD
17:24.15TupladTekkub >:(
17:24.36Tupladwth did u do with fubar_guildfu ?
17:24.45TupladI cant remove notes and cant see guild ranks >:|
17:25.29Tupladwhen ppl did that in middle ages, they got spanked untill their head fell off - do you want to suffer all the pain for a stupid mistake ? :P
17:26.18Tupladphyber, have u sent your pack ?
17:26.47hastehaha
17:26.56hasteI forgot to turn of PerfectRaidTargets (and update)
17:27.08hasteI counted 31 targets before it killed my WoW :p
17:28.04steinolol
17:28.09Tuplad:0
17:28.12steinoall shamans died haste!
17:28.18steinoi blame you!
17:28.19steino:(
17:28.21Tupladhaste: gimme oUF
17:28.25hasteI blame the huunter not kiting
17:28.30hastesince I got killed by a dragon :p
17:28.35Tupladthat's one badass UF but the party not dissapearing sucks
17:28.35steinohaha
17:29.12hasteTuplad: self:Hook("RaidOptionsFrame_UpdatePartyFrames", function() end) << add that line in the enable function in AceUnitFrames.lua
17:29.35hastequick hack that solves it :p
17:29.36Tupladline of enable function ?
17:29.37steinohaste: we got the eggs down!
17:29.46hasteTuplad: search after Enable
17:29.52TupladEnable = function(self)
17:29.54Tupladthat ?
17:29.57hasteyes
17:30.07Tupladself:Hook("RaidOptionsFrame_UpdatePartyFrames", function() end)
17:30.18Tupladkk
17:30.19Tupladlets see :)
17:30.27hasteself:Hook("PartyMemberFrame_UpdatePet", function() end)
17:30.30hastethat one is also nice
17:33.17Tupladit is indeed
17:33.32Tupladgief more?
17:34.03hastewaah?
17:34.19hastethe solution isn't the best btw, since it will create a new function each time one of those are called
17:34.28hastebut meh hacks are to be used
17:35.07Tuplad=)
17:35.09Tupladone more request
17:35.14Tupladadd race to partyframes
17:35.32hastewhy oh why? (it will be possible in 2.0.0)
17:35.56Tupladand umm
17:35.59Tupladbigger buff icons
17:36.07haste*shakesfist*
17:37.00Tuplad=]
17:39.08Tupladgief oUF
17:39.09Tuplad2
17:39.44haste:<
17:41.13Tupladcmon
17:41.17Tupladit's done, what u waiting for ?
17:46.43phyberbah, trying to do stuff to the WorldMapFrame is a pain in the ass
17:47.39hastedefine done :p
17:48.24Tupladhaste: that means we're getting oUF2 ?
17:48.41hasteno, I jusk asked for a definition about how it's done
17:53.56Tuplad;<
17:54.02Tupladu are EVIL
17:54.03Tupladpure
17:55.24steinoafaik, ouf2 isnt done :)
17:55.55steinostill lots of ouf tasks on the todo list
17:56.48Tuplad:O
18:02.10Tupladso, what's crackin' ?
18:02.23hastequeue, and I cleaned up my C'Thun module
18:02.42Tuplad:0
18:04.08hasteit still has hentai written all over it :p
18:04.21hastesteino: did it work, except for the stack overflow?
18:04.26hastesteino: since I've fixed that ;D
18:04.49steinohmm, mostly
18:04.59hastemostly?
18:05.03steinocouldnt see any more errors atleast :)
18:05.16steinobut the bars was over each other
18:05.18steinoinstead of 2 bars
18:05.21steinoit was like 1
18:05.30hasteyeah, that was a little error from my side
18:05.34steinokk
18:05.45hasteI looked at it today, and it was.. zomg.. *changes*
18:05.54steinowe're prolly going cthun tomorrow
18:05.57steinotime to test!
18:05.59steino:))
18:06.51Tupladworld first: Definition from Chromaggus
18:07.05hasteI want to commit it now tho' :p
18:07.06Tupladto take ctun down
18:07.08hasteshould I?
18:10.39steinowait till we test it :O
18:10.41steinoimo
18:10.51Industrialdoodeedoo wsg 20 kills 3 caps
18:10.52Tupladhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4575 is this useful ?
18:10.53Industrialdoodeeddoo
18:10.54Industrial:D
18:11.08hasteIndustrial: Invader Zim?
18:11.15Industrialhaste: nop
18:11.20Industrialhaste: :P never seen it :(
18:11.27hasteIndustrial: aaw, you should
18:11.36haste~emulate gir
18:11.37purlto make room for the TUNA!
18:12.35kergothhehe, yay gir
18:12.57hasteI even remember what episode that quote is from!
18:13.09Tuplad~emulate haste
18:13.10hasteor.. what happened
18:13.12Tuplado_O
18:13.18kergothran out of fuel :D
18:13.22kergoth~emulate gir
18:13.23purli need tacos! i need tacos or i'll explode.  that happens to me sometimes.
18:13.39haste~doom song
18:13.40purl"Doom doom doom doom doom doom doom ...."
18:13.47kergothiirc the cupcake was teh guidance system, the tuna was the fuel
18:14.00hasteyeh
18:14.00kergoth*crying* I miss you, cupcake.
18:14.04kergoth:D
18:14.40TainI watched the first episode not that long ago.  So fun.
18:15.06TupladAceHeal, a good addon ? Never tried it
18:15.19hasteI don't like clickcast addons :o
18:15.26TainHealing people is against my religion.
18:17.04hastehmm, I foudn Tekkubs avatar on ftw.generation
18:20.46Tupladlol @ tain
18:20.57Amadeo_Tain: What *isn't* against your religion? :)
18:22.26weabcheesecake.
18:23.18Amadeo_Tuplad: That's a weird addon
18:23.24Amadeo_Who would make you type /script commands to change options?
18:23.30Amadeo_on a release addon
18:23.37steinothat guy
18:24.33Amadeo_I guess that's why he has no posts :P
18:24.50Amadeo_ooh, he has some in the other thread
18:25.49Amadeo_haha, someone bitched about it
18:26.05Amadeo_He says, "Yes, you do... and why? because I don't see any difference in typing '/script coolDownDock:Show()' and '/cd lock'."
18:26.55hyperChipmunkI prefer the former, myself; trust it more =P
18:27.54TupladAmadeo_: hm ?
18:27.54kergoththe former is more prone to failure if the addon changes, for one
18:28.41hyperChipmunkyea, but at least it's guaranteed not to do 50,000 different operations that I don't care about =P
18:29.28hasteif you are going to be that paranoid...
18:29.48hyperChipmunkno, just very aware about how much most addon authors suck =P
18:29.52hasteit's like: I'm not using this addon before I know EXACTLY what it does.
18:29.52Amadeo_he's just trying to be elite
18:29.59Amadeo_(the addon guy)
18:30.11hyperChipmunkyea. agree with you there; no reason NOT to provide it
18:30.41Tupladwtf ?!
18:30.44Tupladexplain
18:30.58hyperChipmunkand I wouldn't use the frame:Show() anyway; it's /vz set h=TRUE =)
18:31.12hyperChipmunkor false
18:31.30hasteoooh... I want to see you do that on a unit frame hyperChipmunk
18:31.43haste'cause I have seen people do it... and it ticks me off!
18:31.47haste*rawrs*
18:32.44*** join/#wowace Tem (n=Tem@204.90.50.252)
18:32.44*** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ
18:35.14Tupladwhat does H do in /vz set h ?
18:35.18Tupladhide?
18:36.17Industrialyes
18:38.21ElkanohyperChipmunk, when you found the time to implement the German loc into GloryLib, drop me a note and I'll test it :)
18:38.32hyperChipmunkI can do that right now
18:38.52hyperChipmunkis it in the SVN?
18:38.57Elkanogot my query this morning?
18:39.34hyperChipmunkoh, just those?
18:39.50Elkanohaven't coded anything wrt that, only posted you the strings you have to match
18:40.15hyperChipmunkk
18:40.50hyperChipmunkif you could send me screenshots of your chat window when bases get assaulted/defended/claimed, that'd be great, so I can get a feel for context
18:41.22hyperChipmunkshouldn't be absolutely necessary, but I like having some idea what I'm looking at
18:41.47Elkanowell, I had the strings grouped when I queried them to you
18:42.03hyperChipmunkI know; call it paranoia or whatever =)
18:42.08hyperChipmunkI want to see what it looks like =P
18:42.20hyperChipmunkeven though I won't understand 'em
18:42.36hyperChipmunkjust a favor, if you get the opportunity =)
18:43.14hyperChipmunkoh, see, even you mention not having screenshots >8p
18:44.16kergothgar
18:44.18kergoth~remulate
18:44.19purlWords. Nothing but sweet, sweet words that turn into bitter orange wax in my ears.
18:44.41Elkanowhen did I say so? I do hav'em
18:46.58Elkanook, 4mb of .rar
18:47.26Elkanowhere do you want'em?
18:51.34hyperChipmunkhyperactiveChipmunk@gmail.com, if you could
18:52.22Tupladoh for me too, not that I know wtf you talk about
18:52.44CIA-1703hyperactiveChipmunk * r1973 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua:
18:52.45CIA-17GloryLib:
18:52.45CIA-17- First whack at Elkano's German localizations for AB
18:53.11Tem~seen timriker
18:53.32purltimriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #openezx, 2d 21h 3m 6s ago, saying: 'there has to be a seem someplace to enable that.'.
18:53.39Tem*sigh*
18:53.48Tem~exception TimRiker
18:53.50purlACTION throws a NullPointerException at TimRiker.
18:54.00Tuplado_O
18:56.21Temhaste: you around?
18:56.37steinohe should be!
18:57.02steinoill poke him ingame
18:58.13haste:<
18:58.38steinoi didnt spam
18:58.41steinopromise
18:58.58Tuplad-_-"
19:00.06hasteI'm being spammed by Nemendor, Dreeds and Vigor :p
19:00.23steinolol
19:00.27steinowhy? :O
19:00.33TupladI told them to
19:00.35hasteoRA, oRA, oUF
19:00.44steino./sigh
19:01.38hasteactually, the order is reversed :p
19:01.55steinoi guess vigor wants a aggro module?
19:01.56steino:O
19:02.42hasteyeh
19:02.48hasteguess what dreeds wants
19:02.51steinohmm
19:02.53Tupladsex?
19:02.59steinoi have no idea, that guy is beyond me
19:03.07hastehe also wants an aggro module :p
19:03.10steinolol
19:03.21steinoits so hard to watch the targets target ...
19:03.24hastetime to make: otravi_YARIW
19:03.29[Ammo]no haste
19:03.35[Ammo]tell them to learn to play their class
19:03.39[Ammo]and not pull aggro
19:03.43Tupladyea
19:04.00steinoalready tried that
19:04.03haste[Ammo]: YARIW = You are doing it wrong
19:04.12steinohaha
19:04.29[Ammo]still just tell them to learn to play their class and not waste your time with pointless junk
19:04.44hastehehe
19:05.01hasteI usually tell them to use one of the other hundrerd addons that does it
19:06.09Tupladha!
19:06.13Tupladhaste, wot serv u on ?
19:06.17Tupladso I can come and spam u for oUF2
19:06.21steinohf
19:06.25steinoits a 600+ que
19:06.29Tupladgief screenshot of oUF2
19:06.33hasteTuplad: Grim Batol
19:06.35Tupladdo I look like I give a shit ?
19:06.37TupladUS serv?
19:06.37hasteTuplad: I only have a movie
19:06.40hasteEU
19:06.45Tupladk
19:06.51Tupladfrench ?
19:06.53Tupladgerman ?
19:06.58hasteenglish
19:07.01Tuplado_O
19:07.10hasteIt's the new PvP server
19:07.12*** join/#wowace Elkano^wtf (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-175.handshake.de)
19:07.18hastewhich blizzard managed to migrate to many people too
19:07.24Tuplad;x when did it came out ?
19:07.28hasteso we are getting a migratin in a week
19:07.32hastelast week
19:07.37Tupladthere was a migration ?
19:07.37Tuplad:O
19:07.40hasteyes
19:07.44hastefor overpopulated realms
19:07.59hastelike: Burning Blade, Stormscale, Burning Legion
19:08.16[Ammo]they are migrating people from deathwing to kazzak
19:08.17Tupladhttp://wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/ wewt
19:08.20[Ammo]assholes at blizzard
19:08.24[Ammo]kazzak is fine as it is
19:08.28Tuplad:o
19:08.29[Ammo]it's 'full' for fucks sake
19:08.35[Ammo]why does it need extra people
19:08.52Tuplad"Casters (priests, mages, warlocks, and druids) rejoice! A new LEGENDARY item quest will be available in patch 1.11!"
19:08.57phyberbecause your queues arn't long enough and other are jealous.
19:09.06Tupladdamn fuckin' punk blizzards, druids are no casters =(((((((((((
19:09.46Elkano^wtfok, hyperChipmunk, forget about email.. i'll upload it to my ftp
19:11.16TupladNew available flight path destinations have been added:
19:11.16TupladRatchet
19:11.16TupladMarshall's Refuge, Un'Goro Crater.
19:11.20Tupladwewt!
19:11.52phyberyay, English picture of the keyring!
19:11.58phyber*want*
19:19.03Tupladhm
19:19.13Tupladparty frames still wont disappear ;\
19:19.25*** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-175.handshake.de)
19:20.00hasteTuplad: then I hate AUF :p
19:21.32NeronixHaha
19:21.35Tuplad=( we all do
19:21.42NeronixSomeone was kiting Gamon around Org
19:21.48Neronixand he was like "dont kill plix"
19:21.54Neronixfor me, plix = automagic no
19:22.10Neronixso I put CoA and corr on him and went away ^^
19:22.22Elkanon1
19:22.47hasteI kited Gamon to  XRaods once
19:22.51Elkanomakes the evil part of my soul giggle in joy
19:22.52hastethen the lowbies killed him :(
19:25.40ElkanohyperChipmunk, if you need any other data, tell me :) I'll be back ingame
19:26.07steinoi got killed by gamon once!
19:26.11steinohes a mean tauren!
19:26.21hasteElkano: hmm, did I gear german WoW ;) ?
19:26.35hastes/gea/hea/
19:27.13Elkanowhy do you ask?
19:27.17hasteElkano: http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/oRA_Cooldowns/oRA_CooldownsLocals_deDE.lua << *puppyeyes*
19:27.45hasteWhy did I have two of the soulstone again =\
19:28.06Amadeo_hahaha
19:28.12Amadeo_I just pissed off some Paladin
19:28.26Amadeo_He tried to gank me in Everlook, so I ran around a bit, lost combat, ran into the inn and /logout
19:28.30Amadeo_let the guards take care of him
19:28.45Elkanomaybe the first shoud say 'gains'?
19:29.14Elkanoand I'll try to think of you when I come over that event next time
19:29.29hasteaye ;)
19:29.51hasteThen I don't have to convert my WoW into german again
19:30.45Elkanoluckily I haven't converted mine into enGB, yet ^^
19:31.07hastehehe
19:31.57Elkanoif you are used to the English terms and then see how they translate everything step by step... they even renamed Thunderfurry :/
19:32.18hastelinking gear is fun with French client at least
19:38.35Amadeo_[Le Boomstick]
19:40.11ckknighthey all
19:40.11ckknightback
19:41.05Amadeo_hi FuBauthor
19:47.41Temholy bold batman!
19:48.26phyber/ignore -regexp *away* Tuplad!*@* ACTIONS
19:49.01phyberumm, minus the -regexp part :)
19:52.16hastemeep
19:52.33hasteI just added wowace to my anti-annoyance filter :p
19:53.43Amadeo_We should page him
19:53.43Amadeo_haha
19:54.35ckknight~emulate beaker
19:54.36purlACTION meeps
19:55.53Tupladhmmm
19:56.00Tupladwhy o why does that auto afk still works ?
19:56.02Tupladthought I deleted it
19:56.08Amadeo_haha
19:56.10Amadeo_my page worked
19:56.22steinolol :p
19:56.37steinoi just ignore all away, gone or back actions :o
19:56.51Tupladk
19:56.52Tupladthink Im done
19:56.53TupladOMG
19:57.18Tupladnow it's fixed
19:57.19Tupladfo' sure
19:59.04*** join/#wowace Tuplad (n=spawnxx@d5153A3AF.access.telenet.be)
19:59.29NeronixRatchet and Marshal's Refuge flight paths == WIN!!
19:59.44Codayus?
20:00.16haste1.11 has new flight paths
20:00.27steinoratchet?! nice :)
20:00.34ckknightshiny.
20:00.38kergothratchet? FINALLY
20:00.53Codayuslink?
20:01.00Amadeo_oh great
20:01.08Amadeo_Ratchet Flight Path just means another place for Alliance to control :P
20:01.46phyberratchet used to be the gathering place for upcoming xroads raids :)
20:04.58ckknightbad, Amadeo_
20:05.07Amadeo_bad? :(
20:05.13ckknightHorde here
20:05.28Amadeo_hehe
20:05.32Amadeo_I'm Horde
20:06.06ckknightalright
20:06.08CIA-1703neriak * r1974 10BigWigs/Core.lua: BigWigs: fixed Molten Core bug in german localization .. it ZoneText it says "Der geschmolzene Kern", but it's "Geschmolzener Kern".
20:06.12ckknighthaven't played in a while
20:06.16ckknightooh, 1970's
20:06.35Amadeo_Good years?
20:06.47ckknightwell, there was economic prosperity
20:06.53ckknightso you could say that
20:08.11Amadeo_whoa
20:08.15Amadeo_Just saw a 7-Up commercial
20:08.27Amadeo_They're claiming it's "100% Natural" now
20:08.33ckknight...?
20:08.34ckknighthow?
20:08.37Amadeo_I dunno
20:08.40Amadeo_I bet it's not though!
20:08.59Amadeo_hm
20:09.40Amadeo_"Filtered carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, natural citric acid, natural flavors, natural potassium citrate"
20:09.45Amadeo_I think natural is just a buzzword
20:09.57Amadeo_Kind of like Super for all the Super Nintendo games
20:10.11Amadeo_Are they games really Super? Well, that's up to you to decide!
20:10.19ckknightSNES was fun
20:10.28ckknightsuper mario world was so pimp.
20:11.16Amadeo_Mario in general just owns
20:11.56Amadeo_haha
20:12.59ckknightyea
20:13.17Amadeo_You getting ready for a new FuBar release?
20:13.30ckknightnot until I have my own bed
20:13.39ckknightanybody find any bugs?
20:13.54Amadeo_I haven't been on too much, but I'll test more tonight
20:14.05Tupladgive more graphics plx =)
20:14.11ckknight?
20:15.31ckknightI guess now'd be a good enough time to work out some profile bugs
20:15.57Amadeo_Unfortunately, I don't do anything really special with FuBar
20:16.10Amadeo_I just use the plugins on one bar
20:17.12phyberI've not found any bugs with latest SVN FuBar.
20:17.23phyberonly thing is FarmerFu is broken, but that's not you :)
20:17.45ckknighthrm
20:17.58phyberi use it with a bar across the top of the screen and a smaller bar across the bottom.
20:18.47Tupladckknight, you should make a profile saving - like, we can choose the name for the profile and stuff
20:18.56Tupladlike: RogueAlt - ShamanAlt
20:18.59ckknightTuplad, I know
20:19.04Tupladand accessible by other chars
20:19.05ckknightyou don't know how much I want to do that
20:19.13Tuplad:0 steal titan's code ?
20:19.17ckknightthat'll have to wait for Ace2, though
20:19.30ckknightno, if I steal Titan's code, then I have to GPL my code
20:19.35ckknightwhich I'm sure as hell not doing
20:19.45Tuplad:0
20:19.52Tupladwell, u're doing a great job now
20:19.53Tupladso dont worry :p
20:20.05ckknightAce1.3's profile system is ...flawed
20:20.18Codayusheh
20:20.29ckknightbut when Ace2 comes about, and subsequently FuBar2, many of the issues will be fixed
20:21.15Amadeo_I heard FuBar2 will be full screen
20:21.38Tupladwhen will ace2 come out ?
20:21.59ckknightAmadeo_, wtf?
20:22.22ckknightTuplad, when the beaurocracy comes to a decision
20:22.36phyberI heard that FuBar2 deep breaths more in phase 2?!
20:23.29Tupladlool
20:23.36NeronixI heard that FuBar2 will pop enrage
20:25.04ckknightI'm basically just trying to split FuBar up into as many little parts as I possibly can
20:25.16ckknightand then make sure that those parts work
20:25.26ckknightI want Ace2 because it'll solve a lot of issues
20:25.42ckknightand I also want DBC, which should help a lot of issues
20:25.54Shyvadbc = ?
20:26.15ckknightdesign by contract
20:26.33ckknightit's a way to have contractual agreements for objects
20:26.39ckknighte.g.
20:26.45Shyvaoh, okay :-)
20:26.53ckknightyou have an add(value)
20:27.12ckknightwhich should set your internal self.value to self.value + value
20:27.16Amadeo_ckknight: I dunno, was looking for a reaction :)
20:27.24Tupladis satrinabuffframes a worthy replacement for gypsy?
20:27.41ckknightso you have function add_pre(value) old.value = self.value end
20:27.42IndustrialI just auctioned 320 linen cloth
20:27.46Industrialowning the market ftw
20:27.51Amadeo_Damn
20:27.56Amadeo_That's like a gold worth
20:27.57ckknightfunction add_post(value) assert(old.value + value == self.value)
20:27.59ckknightend
20:28.01Industrialhell no
20:28.03Amadeo_hahah
20:28.10Industrial40s per stack m8
20:28.25Amadeo_nice
20:28.27Amadeo_new server?
20:28.27Industrialits a goldmine i tell you :P
20:28.32Industrialnop
20:28.41Amadeo_wow, why's it so high?
20:28.45IndustrialNo main char, and i have 30g :P
20:28.48Tupladis satrinabuffframes a worthy replacement for gypsy?
20:28.51CodayusAmadeo_: That's not really high.
20:28.58IndustrialTuplad: they dont have bars
20:28.58Amadeo_for LINEN!?
20:29.04IndustrialAmadeo_: correct
20:29.08IndustrialAmadeo_: and a bit of wool
20:29.13CodayusYeah, 1-2s per linen is normal.
20:29.14Industrialgold mine i tell you
20:29.16Amadeo_Let me see how much it is on Eredar
20:29.18Amadeo_that sounds really high!
20:29.21Codayus<shrug>
20:29.27Industrialpeople underestimate linen :-)
20:29.37CodayusIt's worth less on new servers I find...less money in the economy.
20:29.40Industriali can twink without a main \o/
20:29.46IndustrialCodayus: yeah
20:29.49TupladIndustrial: barsN
20:29.51Tupladbars ?*
20:30.08CodayusOn an old server, people are rolling alts, twinking out pvp characters, deciding they want to powerlevel tailoring, etc.
20:30.16phyberI don't buy things for my alts with my main.
20:30.21phyberthey can earn their own crap :p
20:30.26IndustrialTuplad: yeah as in,  bar thingy with a green to red color that displays a unit's health in a percentage, its width the current percentage of the max width
20:30.48CodayusCopper bars are worth 1g a stack or so.  :-)
20:30.56Industrialwool cloth too
20:31.03Industrialtwinkies use it for bandies
20:31.08Industrial:)
20:31.41Amadeo_I see a bunch for 15s a stack on Eredar
20:31.54Industrial:P
20:32.03CIA-1703ammo * r1975 10oRA_Durability/oRA_Durability.lua: oRA_Durability: Added pretty hover highlight and onclick sortability.
20:32.12CodayusLow level herbs are more random.  Briarthorn is SCARY expensive, but it's used for Swiftness potions.
20:32.22Amadeo_Herbs are crazy expensive
20:32.40CodayusDepends on the herb.  :-)
20:33.42[Ammo]oRA_Durability is done and looking damn sexeh
20:33.58[Ammo]archaic ctra style begone!
20:34.44phyberI can't wait for all of the oRA stuff to have the new look.
20:34.56phyberoRA_Assist reminds me of it everytime we're at Garr
20:34.57[Ammo]hmm
20:35.01TupladIndustrial
20:35.06[Ammo]hehe
20:35.06IndustrialTuplad
20:35.12[Ammo]oRA_Assist is pretty now :p
20:35.14[Ammo]and oRA_Ready too
20:35.26[Ammo]oRA_Durability I just finished
20:35.28Tupladerm, Im talking about SatrinaBuffFrames and GypsyBuff
20:35.31phyberoRA_Ready is pretty too?  maybe I missed that in the SVN log :/
20:35.34hyperChipmunkdude, I love those windows
20:35.40hyperChipmunkthose glassy ones
20:35.48IndustrialTuplad: oh nm
20:35.55[Ammo]I just did oRA_Durability hyperChip
20:36.01hyperChipmunk<3
20:36.04[Ammo]it's Haste's design
20:36.10[Ammo]I'm just implementing it :)
20:36.13hyperChipmunk=)
20:36.28hyperChipmunkdoesn't make it less awesome
20:37.05ckknightI wonder how hard it'd be to just rip out Ace's profile system
20:37.27[Ammo]why wuold you want to do that?
20:38.08[Ammo]to use raidcolors or not to use them
20:38.27[Ammo]I guess I could extend oRA_Core with a function to get some raidinfo by name
20:38.34ckknight[Ammo], cause it is severely broken for a tiered system like FuBar
20:38.42[Ammo]like id, groupnumber
20:38.51[Ammo]it's the addons that should fix it
20:39.04[Ammo]the system works fine for me in conjunction with fubar
20:39.25ckknightah, no it doesn't
20:39.38Neronix"Who the hell are you!?"
20:39.56Neronix"I'm the Doctor! And I just snogged Madame de Pompadour!"
20:39.57NeronixXD
20:39.58[Ammo]ckknight: 'for me' :)
20:40.18ckknightyea, it works semi-alright
20:40.21ckknightbut there are still issues
20:40.28ckknightthat cause the positioning headaches
20:40.38haste[Ammo]: I was thinking of that too
20:40.40ckknightand if you change profiles mid-game, it creates a whole clusterfuck of fun
20:41.10haste"clusterfuck"
20:41.11[Ammo]haste: check out oRA_Durability
20:41.17[Ammo]it's very purty now
20:41.20haste[Ammo]: aye
20:41.26[Ammo]to test it with 40 people: /ora durability test
20:41.33Tupladhaste
20:41.41Tupladhow can I reload party frames in oUF?
20:42.12hasteI don't remember much about 1.6.X :p
20:42.26hasteI haven't touched it since april
20:42.28Gngskammo, clicking on the scroll button doesn't work!
20:42.54ckknightugh, this is just too much of a bitch without Ace2
20:43.08hasteTuplad: /script AceUnitFrames:UpdateParty()
20:43.11hastetry that one
20:43.12ckknightI demand progress
20:43.27[Ammo]gngsk: no idea why that doesn't work
20:43.31[Ammo]blame the fauxscrollframe
20:43.41[Ammo]the arrows work and the scrollwheel works
20:43.43[Ammo]so meh
20:44.00steinomousewheel works fine tbh
20:45.10Gngskyep
20:45.13Gngskjust sayin' :P
20:45.19Tupladbtw
20:45.20[Ammo]no idea why it doesn't work sorry :)
20:45.28Tupladwill AUF/LUF/OUF get fixed ?
20:45.28Gngskyou should've listened to Tem!
20:45.28[Ammo]I blame blizz
20:45.33Tupladif yes, when ?
20:45.41[Ammo]no I shouldn't
20:46.01TemI warned you
20:46.10TemBlizzard XML Templates are teh suck
20:46.55[Ammo]well for now it's ok
20:46.59hasteTuplad: well, oUF and LUF are under going rewrites
20:47.17Tupladaha
20:47.21Tupladso it'll get fixed ?
20:47.23hasteTuplad: and AUF... well, it's pretty much doomed from now on I think
20:47.26[Ammo]I always use the mousewheel anyway :)
20:47.34[Ammo]I should just hide the buttons
20:47.39Tupladbut LUF & OUF need AUF to work, right ?
20:47.58hasteI think Lucen is dropping it also
20:48.11hasteoUF 2.0.0 will only have ace as dep
20:48.35Tupladgreat
20:48.41Lucensame here
20:48.52Tupladthe first to release his UF gets a cookie
20:48.58Tuplad"Baked in Anger"
20:49.07hasteLucen: How far are you?
20:49.09Luceni'd place bets on haste
20:49.10haste*grin*
20:49.26[Ammo]that's the first time I've heard a beggar offer someone something in return for what he wants :p
20:49.27steinoit'z a raze it'z a raze!
20:49.27CIA-1703ckknight * r1976 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua PanelClass.lua): FuBar - changed some of the profile logic (it's still broken)
20:49.30Luceni have all the frames going, haven't tested partypet though
20:49.49Luceni need to recode a lot though to get it in the final form I want
20:49.52Tupladlmao @ ckknight
20:50.05hasteI have partypet left
20:50.16steinohaste: offline? :o
20:50.17steino:|
20:50.19hasteconfigurations and some minor bug fixes
20:50.22hastesteino: queue
20:50.26steinodid you're x lockup again?
20:50.29hastewas at 50, then woW died
20:50.31steinoyour****
20:50.35hasteyou can see if that happens
20:50.40hasteI d/c from IRC then
20:50.41steinokk ;)
20:50.47steinotrue
20:50.52hastesince I don't run freenode from the server
20:51.06steinoyou dont run bnc here ^^
20:51.16hasteI don't even run screen now :o
20:51.46steinoi want something like screen, just better
20:52.00hastebetter, how?
20:52.36steinoit had a tendency to crash and lockup :(
20:52.52hasteI haven't experienced that (yet)
20:53.20Tupladmuhm
20:53.33Tupladhaste, when r u plannin' to release oUF?
20:53.43haste"when it's done"
20:54.27Tuplad=_=
20:54.32Tupladtime & place ?
20:54.52Elkanoright after DN forever ;)
20:54.56Tupladomg wtf kinda error is this [22:54-89] [string "BrowseButton7ClosingTime:OnEnter"]:3: Usage: SetText("text" [, color])
20:54.56Tuplad---
20:55.26hasteBrowseButton, wth?
20:56.52Tuplado_O was scanning AH
20:56.57Tupladand suddenly *puf*
20:57.10Tupladhaste, wot UFs do u recommend me to use while u writing oUF?
20:57.25hastethe one you like
20:57.31kergothmemory alignment problems (Bus error) are fun for hte whole family!
20:57.33kergothor something
20:57.33kergothgrr
20:58.20hastedone now?
20:58.47ckknightkergoth, can I please have Ace2?
20:58.48ckknight:-P
20:58.59Tupladhaste, no, tell me
20:59.16kergothckknight: we're making good progress on it, shouldnt be too much longer
20:59.19ckknighthooray
20:59.25Tupladsomeone should ace discordunitframes lawl
20:59.27kergoth(at least with regard to the object model and mixins and all)
20:59.28NeronixThat quick?
20:59.28ckknightcan I help at all? I have my back to the wall
20:59.59ckknightI can't really fix FuBar's profile issues without ripping out all of the basic AceDB and profile stuff
21:01.59Tupladckknight, make FUnitFrames
21:02.08hasteFuFrames!
21:02.22ckknightI could, it'd be odd, though
21:03.07Tupladcmon :) something minimalistic
21:03.20ckknightbasically, you'd have a PlayerFu, Party1Fu, Party2Fu, etc.
21:03.44Tuplad:0 imba, go for it
21:03.44ckknightthen you put each on its own panel, detach those
21:03.48ckknightplace em where you want
21:03.54TupladI'll be da beta tester
21:04.08ckknightI don't plan to do it
21:04.13ckknightit's too...stupid
21:04.25ckknightI'm gonna go swimming
21:04.31Tupladlol, kk
21:05.18Tupladhttp://static.curse-gaming.com/mscreens/6590.jpg
21:05.19Tupladsomething like that
21:08.30*** join/#wowace maiaproudmoore (n=maiaprou@84.112.137.81)
21:09.34maiaproudmooreI'm completely new to IRC, so I guess I'm gonna say hello and see what happenes.
21:09.41Tupladlawl
21:09.46Tupladcreator of Squishy ?
21:10.03maiaproudmooreyup :)
21:10.23maiaproudmooreand I'd have a small question
21:10.55cladhaireerr hugs even
21:10.59maiaproudmoorehow do I access a table/variable I defined in an ace addon from a different ace addon?
21:11.02maiaproudmoore<PROTECTED>
21:11.11cladhairehow is it defined?
21:11.24[Ammo]hello maia
21:11.25maiaproudmooresimply Roster = {} in my Initialize() function
21:11.34phyberAddon.wibble?
21:11.38cladhairethen you can access it using Roster
21:11.40cladhaireit'll be global
21:11.41Amadeo_How come you never hug me, cladhaire?
21:11.52cladhaireAmadeo_:  Because I don't like you... I thought that was obvious =)
21:12.06maiaproudmooreand I assumed I could access it from somewhere else via Squishy.Roster - doesnt seem to be so (or I'm blind and there's a typo somewhere)
21:12.23Amadeo_haha
21:12.23*** join/#wowace Wobin_ (n=Wobin@221.221.20.205)
21:12.27maiaproudmooreaah, no prefix. simply Roster. I'm polluting the namespace.
21:12.34cladhairemaiaproudmoore: If you defined it in your INitialize() functino then it'll be global.. if you make it self.Roster, then you can access it using Squishy.Roster
21:13.12Amadeo_oh no, don't you try to get in good with me, Mister
21:13.18Amadeo_I'm gonna hug maia now
21:13.19cladhairelol
21:13.25cladhairemy lick > your hug
21:13.28maiaproudmooreoh I see. well, now I have the choice of either replacing Roster by self.Roster in Squishy about a dozen times, or pollute the namespace ;)
21:13.34maiaproudmoore<PROTECTED>
21:13.43Amadeo_Hugging strangers is really...strange
21:14.06TainI was waiting for someone to start hugging licks.
21:14.27[Ammo]maia: just search and replace
21:14.43hasteyes!
21:14.48hasteeven notepad has that function
21:15.47maiaproudmooredifferent idea: Squishy = {}; Squishy.Roster= {} and then local Roster = Squishy.Roster - that should work as well, should it?
21:16.04[Ammo]just search and replace :p
21:16.05[Ammo]it's faster
21:16.30maiaproudmoorenot if you dont want to replace e.g. RosterByIndex as well - and I'm not really firm enough in regexp
21:17.26hastewhat editor do you use?
21:18.06TainJust do the search and replace and step through them all, don't globablly replace all.
21:18.08Tupladuse Notepad++
21:18.44maiaproudmooretuplad, I'm using OSX - so no NotePad++ for me, TextMate is my choice
21:19.04[Ammo]stepping through them is just fine
21:19.10[Ammo]it's a one time operation anyway
21:19.25Tupladaha
21:19.32Tupladmaiaproudmoore, so what you planning to do with Squishy ?
21:19.58maiaproudmoorenot sure. my time is somewhat limited, and I'm not really firm in lua at all.
21:20.13Tupladis it on SVN ?
21:20.16CodayusYes, it is.
21:20.30Industrialmaiaproudmoore: textmat looks really really nice. Do you know of any ports to any other platform then osx? i really wanna try it. i use vim myself
21:20.33maiaproudmooreso it's rather a "will anyone help adding features"
21:20.36Industrialtextmate*
21:21.01maiaproudmooreindustrial, I doubt it.
21:21.16TupladIndustrial
21:21.17CodayusI'm taking a look at it at the moment.  I've been a heavy user of squeakywheel for ages, but the problems with that mod are too numerous to list.  :-)  Squishy looks great.  :-D
21:21.21TupladI'll look into that
21:21.49maiaproudmooreokay, so my quick'n'dirty solution as mentioned above didnt work. guess I'll have to search and replace.
21:21.49Tupladomg, paying for some shitty editor ? na'ah
21:23.05Tupladanyone here speaks italian ?
21:24.30Wobin_Oh hey Maia =)
21:25.07maiaproudmoorenever assumed so many people are in this channel. this feels like a family.
21:25.17Wobin_A big happy Aced Family =P
21:25.29TainWe are like a family.  Just like one you'd see on Jerry Springer.
21:25.37Wobin_(Where we break each other down and rebuild each other in a more streamlined fashion)
21:25.56TupladIm not Aced :(
21:26.07Wobin_Soon, my pretty... soooooon!
21:26.28CIA-1703aileen * r1977 10FuBar_VolumeFu/VolumeFu.lua: FuBar_VolumeFu: Added CrayonLib
21:26.39Wobin_Anyway, I have to go play my druid a bit..
21:26.44Wobin_damn shapeshifters =P
21:26.47TupladTotal Addons: 134 / Currently Loaded: 129 / Ace Addons Loaded/Registered: 52/53
21:27.55Wobin_It's surprising how much I'm liking CheapShot as an opener than Ambush...
21:28.10Wobin_I guess because it takes out the whole fiddly get behind them thing
21:28.24Tupladambush is good till lvl 40
21:29.00Wobin_I'm a macerogue atm
21:29.15Wobin_climbing the combat tree
21:29.44maiaproudmoorecladhaire (and others): do you have a way to simulate raids? I'm forced to beg all my friends to group with me for debugging - and then when running a battleground I end up with bugs at the wrong moment
21:29.47Wobin_It's nice that the skills in the combat tree are fairly streamlined
21:29.53cladhairelog onto Draka
21:29.58cladhairehorde or alliance
21:29.59Industrial< Tuplad> omg, paying for some shitty editor ? na'ah
21:30.00cladhairei can't invite you
21:30.03cladhairebut Cairenn or someone else probably can
21:30.04IndustrialI bet its a really good editor
21:30.21Tupladna'ah
21:30.24Tupladnotepad++ is better
21:30.45hasteSciTE > *
21:31.00Tupladscite is good too
21:31.03kergothvim is god.
21:31.12hasteI've never been a fan of vim :o
21:31.13Cairennwhich side on Draka? and character name to be inviting?
21:31.14hastedon't know why
21:31.16Industrialvim is god indeed
21:31.32TainEmacs is a great OS, all it needs is an editor.
21:31.36Industrialhehe
21:31.41kergothsomeday my vim customizations will be so extensive my editor will become self aware
21:31.42TupladI like emacs & scite
21:31.46Tupladnever figured out how vim works
21:31.59Industrialhaste: scite needs more logic in separation of color and syntax
21:32.08kergoththis D programming language is really nifty
21:32.10Industrialhaste: its config is not sane. its really weird
21:32.13Wobin_heh. It's usually either vim or emacs
21:32.16hasteIndustrial: I'm  happy with it :o
21:32.27Wobin_I wonder if most people ever bother to learn both
21:32.35Cairennso, unh, am I supposed to be inviting someone on Draka or ??
21:32.43Industrialhaste: you have to specify a color for each language, rather then a color sauce thats the same over all languages
21:32.50Wobin_Maia? =)
21:33.05Wobin_Mmmm colour sauce
21:33.18hastekek
21:33.43Industrial:)
21:34.00Industrialbrb rebooting
21:34.17Industrialonbord quirks withmy 5.1 :(
21:36.16maiaproudmooresorry, was busy replacing. Cairenn, thanks for the offer. Right now I'm in a 2man raid with someone offline :)
21:36.22Cairennokay
21:36.38hastemaiaproudmoore: I do that at times also ;)
21:36.42maiaproudmooremy main problem is simulating raid battles - but I guess there is no real solution
21:36.46hastenice for debugging raid related things
21:37.21Wobin_We should have an addon that automates duels
21:37.31Wobin_So we can log in on Draka and 'simulate combat' =P
21:37.41hasteUS or EU ?
21:37.48Wobin_US
21:37.54hastethen I can't be of any help :o
21:37.58Wobin_For Draka
21:38.09hasteI don't have a US account (Yet!)
21:38.23steinoxD
21:38.25maiaproudmooreplaying US as well, even though I'm in europe (with the result that my raids are at 4am-10am)
21:39.18steinohaste always invites my alt when im questing :(
21:39.23steinoand makes raid
21:39.30hasteno I don't ! :p
21:39.35steinoyou sure do!
21:39.40Wobin_maiaproudmoore: I know how you feel
21:39.42hasteI've done it four times or something!
21:39.45maiaproudmoorewell, done with search'n'replacing. but now I'm having a different problem: if I try to access a function from a different addon I get " attempt to index local `self' (a number value)"
21:39.47hasteand it's always for 10 sec or so
21:39.51steinoi've lost count
21:39.53steino:(
21:40.23Codayusmaiaproudmoore: Uh...try calling Squishy.funcname(Squishy)
21:40.24Wobin_ah
21:40.30maiaproudmooreaah
21:40.32Wobin_yeah
21:40.37steinotssk
21:40.40Wobin_or Squishy:funcname()
21:40.40steinoall lies!
21:40.51CodayusOh, yeah, Wobin's idea is better.
21:41.02Wobin_It's all just syntactic sugar
21:41.07Wobin_it' means the same thing =)
21:41.12CodayusTrue, but nothing wrong with a bit of sugar.
21:41.27Amadeo_hahahaa
21:41.28Amadeo_look
21:41.29Amadeo_http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info4975-dLx_HUD.html
21:41.35Amadeo_Half-Life HUD :P
21:41.48hastewould have been better with percentage!
21:42.19maiaproudmooreguys, your help saved me about 5 hours so far.
21:42.21Wobin_Codayus: I almost spelled it shugar =P
21:42.31Wobin_maiaproudmoore: That's what we're here for =)
21:42.51Tupladwow
21:42.52Tupladimba hud
21:42.53Wobin_Every time I see a new author on the boards it's like "I wish they'd log into IRC..." =P
21:42.53Tupladdownloading
21:43.05Amadeo_Everytime there's a TipBuddy update, I hope it says, "Now Ace'd!"
21:43.15Tupladlalala
21:43.18CairennWobin_: so, point them to the 2 channels :p
21:43.31Tupladhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4975&jump=7681#cmnt7681
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21:44.00Shyvahow do I run a macro from a lua script?
21:44.01Wobin_Hehe if Devla had logged into IRC AceHeal could have gotten fixed faster =)
21:44.12Cairennhe's been on from time to time
21:44.16Wobin_But I'm lazy in my recruiting
21:44.18Cairennin both channels
21:44.26Wobin_aye, more often though =)
21:44.31Cairennyeah, well
21:44.33maiaproudmooreboth channels?
21:44.39Cairenn#wowi-lounge
21:44.46Amadeo_Cairenn multitasks like dual core
21:45.08Shyvaguys? anyone who knows it??
21:45.17Cairennunh, I'm in ... 5? currently ... with 3 more I *should* be in, and lots more that folks would like me to be in
21:46.07Amadeo_But you like this channel best, dontcha?
21:46.29ckknightback from the pool
21:46.31ckknightit was cold
21:46.34Amadeo_I mean, I'm only in this channel
21:46.38Amadeo_So you can't get me anywhere else
21:46.47Amadeo_Hey, why is everyone leaving?
21:46.50ckknightI prefer #wowace over #wowi-lounge
21:46.54Amadeo_haha
21:47.05ckknightsome of the people in #wowi-lounge irk me
21:47.28hasteirk?
21:47.34Amadeo_annoy
21:47.36TupladO_o
21:47.43Elkanock, unfortunatly I followed you to here ;)
21:47.54ckknightI was referring to Miravlix
21:47.56Cairenn#wowace is dedicated to the Ace crew, just like CosmosTesters is dedicated to the Cosmos crew ... #wowi-lounge is open to authors from all schools of thought
21:48.03Amadeo_ckknight: I thought I was your only lackey, wtf...it's over!
21:48.10ckknightAmadeo_, sadly, no
21:48.16ckknighthyperChipmunk is also a lackey
21:48.18Cairennyeah, well, Miravlix irks everyone, including the entire Cosmos team, of which he is a part
21:48.19Amadeo_haha
21:48.21ckknightat least he used to be *sniff*
21:48.33Amadeo_I didn't know Cosmos was still around
21:48.40Amadeo_I used that back in beta I think
21:48.44CairennAnduin would just as soon string him up by his thumbnails 3/4 of the time
21:48.46TainA few people in #wowi annoy me.  hmmm... on further review a few people in #wowace annoy me as well. ;)
21:49.01CairennAmadeo_: it was the only one around during early CB
21:49.07Amadeo_Tain: That's why I'm here ;)
21:49.13CodayusHmmm
21:49.25Wobin_Shyva: GetMacroInfo?
21:49.38Amadeo_Cairenn: Yep
21:49.47Amadeo_What have they done to it now days?
21:49.59Wobin_Then maybe loadstring?
21:50.20CodayusThe Squishy code critically hits you for 5600.  You die.  :-(
21:50.24maiaproudmooreyeah, I remember Cosmos being the only way to get addons - think we didn't even have ui websites back then (or I didnt know they existed yet)
21:50.33Tupladlol Codayus
21:50.41Amadeo_They're still big on Sea, I...see
21:51.03maiaproudmooreand I hoped it's gonna be: "...critically heals you..."
21:51.04Cairennmaiaproudmoore: actually, we (WoWI) were around during CB, but we had to close our doors for a while, unfortunately
21:51.24ckknightwhy did you close your doors?
21:51.29Amadeo_Drafty
21:51.57maiaproudmooredont tell me Sam or his bosses had a problem with wowi back then?
21:52.12maiaproudmoorealthough as wow was CB, they probably didnt want information available in public
21:52.23ckknightwhat is CB?
21:52.33Amadeo_Closed Beta
21:52.33Wobin_Closed Beta
21:53.21ckknightokay
21:53.48CodayusI'm clearly missing something *really* basic.  Why is Squishy.Roster always nil?
21:53.53TainI've started in the closed beta of Dungeon Runner, but looks like just a Diablo 2 clone with a WoW feel.  Question marks over quest givers heads, somewhat similar sounds.
21:54.09maiaproudmooreCodayus, move to private chat?
21:54.15Codayussure
21:54.19Amadeo_kinky
21:54.29Amadeo_Tain: New?
21:54.37TainWell, it is a closed beta so...
21:55.10Amadeo_Homepage graphics look scary
21:55.11TainI hope it's new, otherwise someone's been in development for far too long.
21:55.15Amadeo_haha
21:55.46Codayushmm, freenode has weird rules about messages from people with unregisted nicks, doesn't it?
21:55.47TainI have to say I'm pretty underwhelmed so far.
21:56.01Amadeo_haha
21:56.08Amadeo_There's no mention of the developer on the website
21:56.09TainA person has to register in order to send/receive messages.
21:56.16CodayusAh ha.
21:56.36CodayusThat explains why maiaproudmoore seemed to be ignoring me.  :-)
21:56.45maiaproudmooreoh
21:56.47maiaproudmooreouch
21:56.54Wobin_The BBC is reporting that the Chinese-made Lenovo PCs are not allowed inside secure US networks." From the article: "Assistant Secretary of State Richard Griffin said the department would also alter its procurement process to ensure US information security was guaranteed. His comments came after Rep Frank Wolf expressed national security concerns. The company Lenovo insisted such concerns were unwarranted and said the computers posed no security risk
21:57.01Wobin_Lovely =P
21:57.13maiaproudmoorewell, I have no idea where and how to register - yet. I'm sure you're going to tell me.
21:57.23Cairennno, it had nothing to do with Blizzard
21:57.25Wobin_/msg nickserv register pasword
21:57.31Wobin_(password =P)
21:57.38Tekkubfuckers
21:57.45TekkubI'm calling in gay next week
21:57.49CodayusI forget.  What Wobin said sounds right.
21:57.58Tekkub"Yea, it looks like I'll probably be gay all week too..."
21:58.08Wobin_Tekkub: Shouldn't that have been in your insurance info already? =P
21:58.21Tekkubinsurance?
21:58.23Tekkubwut dat?
21:58.25CairennDolby and Kudane were under exclusivity contracts to SOE for the EQI site, and it took some finagling to get it sorted out
21:58.53Amadeo_Cairenn: Did WoWI used to be pretty much a forum?
21:59.10TainSomeone was telling me today that EQ2 is bringing lots of "classic" EQ items into the game to try to drum up interest from the older EQ players.
21:59.11Cairennnope, we've always been as we are now
21:59.14Amadeo_hm
21:59.32Amadeo_Tain: They'd have to bring back the old class mechanics for me to play it :P
22:00.00Amadeo_Assassins with Evacuate just doesn't sit well with me
22:00.02Cairennbut during CB, we were "closed to public" ... you had to prove you were in the CB to be able to be involved in the site
22:00.10Amadeo_Cairenn: I see
22:00.21Cairennsame as we did with EQ and EQ2
22:00.45Tekkubyou know what's sad?
22:00.58Amadeo_Tekkub: Injured clowns :(
22:01.18Wobin_Wow
22:01.19Tekkubtoday someone said "Oh my god!" and in my mind I heard "look at that fat cock!" and burst into a gigglefit
22:01.20Wobin_That is sad
22:01.24Tekkubthey think I'm insane now
22:01.39Amadeo_haha
22:01.39Tuplad>_>
22:01.39Tekkubama, no, good, the creepy fuckers deserve it
22:02.02Wobin_Tekkub: Yeah, but you can't laugh at them about it...
22:02.12Tekkubsure I can
22:02.21Wobin_That's cause you're inherantly evil
22:02.28Tekkubserves em right for keeping me awake at night
22:02.39Tekkubno, it's cause CLOWNS are inherantly evil
22:02.56Amadeo_Oh, I wasn't sure if you meant clowns for a second!
22:03.47Amadeo_Tekkub: What was that disenchanting addon called again (Not Enchantrix)
22:04.10TekkubFizzwidget's Disencant Predictor
22:04.16TekkubFizzy makes great stuff
22:04.19Tupladyeah
22:04.23Tupladused his addons a while ago
22:04.25TekkubI sent the %s at him, hope he adds them in
22:04.29Amadeo_nice
22:04.31Tupladbut enchantrix > FDP
22:04.41Tekkubnot rually Tul :P
22:04.47Amadeo_I'm not a fan of Enchantrix
22:04.48TupladTel ?!
22:04.50TupladTul*
22:04.51TekkubEnchantrix's scope is far too large
22:04.59Tupladexplain
22:05.11TekkubI see Tulpad everytime I see your name so :P on you
22:05.15Tekkubexplain...
22:05.31kergothhttp://www.explosm.net/comics/45/
22:05.32CIA-1703maia * r1978 10Squishy/core.lua: Squishy: converting variables, pt1
22:05.38Tupladdyslexic >:|
22:05.42hyperChipmunkSquishy?
22:05.46Tupladyep
22:05.54Tekkubevery item of the same type (armor or weapon), same color and same 5-level range has the same probabilities to DE into dust, shard or essence
22:05.57TainTake Tuplad's comments with a grain of salt, afterall he did call ItemRack a "crap addon"
22:06.04hyperChipmunkO_o
22:06.04kergoth..
22:06.13Tekkubalthough it seems that qty of what you get doesn't fall in that rule
22:06.14maiaproudmoorenice to see instant svn update notification in here, very handy.
22:06.16hyperChipmunkheretic!
22:06.26hyperChipmunkwhat i ssquishy?
22:06.27TupladTain: and I was right!
22:06.35TupladhyperChipmunk: emergency monitor
22:06.39CIA-17ow
22:06.42TekkubEnchantrix goes per-item, the scope is too big, unneeded data wasting space
22:06.45Tuplado_O
22:06.49kergoth~lart Tuplad
22:06.59Tupladk
22:07.04Tupladso fizzmidget things then ?
22:07.04Wobin_~comfort tuplad
22:07.06purlThere, there, tuplad.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
22:07.10Tekkubplus if you take the nubmers and add them up (I did last night) they average out into some damn nice round numbers
22:07.13maiaproudmoorehyper, it's a kind of replacement for the ctra emergency monitor, somewhat based on PerfectRaid, with modifiers in the background (people with aggro have higher priority, people being healed by others have lower priority,...)
22:07.14kergoth~herring Tuplad
22:07.16purlACTION whacks Tuplad on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred
22:07.21kergothTuplad: disable that script.
22:07.27Tupladround numbers ? o_O
22:07.28ckknightyea.
22:07.39Tupladkergoth: stop using emotes at me.
22:07.42Tekkubfizzy's doesn't go per-item, it looks at type/color/level and gives you a "fuzzy" estimate on what it'll turn into
22:07.44TupladI dont like emotional people :p
22:07.49ckknightTuplad, type /me kicks CIA-17
22:08.00TekkubI sent him the percentages last night, so you can nix that fuzzy element if you want
22:08.00Tupladno =]
22:08.01kergothTuplad: you're giong to get banned from freenode channels using such idiotic tools.
22:08.01Wobin_no don't =P
22:08.13kergothTuplad: so if thats what you want, feel free
22:08.18Tupladkergoth: yep
22:08.25kergothgood, i cant wait.
22:08.26CairennI have to agree, please do get rid of the auto-response loop
22:08.49ckknightwell, cya all later
22:08.52Tupladit's there for a reason
22:08.53Cairennlater ckknight
22:08.55Tekkub~Dr. Tran
22:08.56purlHere comes Dr. Tran!
22:08.56Tupladcu ckknight
22:08.58Wobin_Although, actually, using /kick CIA-17 won't loop
22:09.02kergoththe reason being you like annoying people, clearly
22:09.12kergothand you'er succeeding admirably
22:09.15Wobin_since CIA-17 takes it but doesn't dish it out =P
22:09.21ckknightoh
22:09.26ckknight<PROTECTED>
22:09.29TekkubCIA takes it like a good bitch
22:09.36Tupladlal
22:09.44kergothI really get tired of irc noobs.
22:09.49kergothmirc using kiddies
22:09.57Wobin_skriptkiddiez =)
22:10.00Tekkubyou tire of all noobs, your tiring is quite tiring really
22:10.12Wobin_Tekkub: That's the point of tiring
22:10.13kergothignore away, i wont mind, i promise
22:10.16TainI'm tired of being admired.
22:10.25Amadeo_Tain: Admiring is against my religion
22:10.28TekkubI'm tired of Tain's fantasy world
22:10.34Tupladerm
22:10.44TainTired of love uninspired.  I'm so tired!  
22:10.51Tupladif 10 lines of mirc script makes me a noob and a scriptkiddie, sure, gg
22:10.54Tupladyou win at life
22:11.06TainThey burst your balloons, again and again.. they promise the moon.
22:11.11kergothyes, it does. go back to efnet where you belong
22:11.13TainAh you people have no culture.
22:11.13Wobin_more 10 lines of useless mirc script =P
22:11.20hasteit pretty much depends on what the 10 lines does IMO.
22:11.20TekkubTul, kerg is a very very angry person, just pretend he's a pretty little daisy
22:11.30Tupladjust send the same emote back
22:11.31NeronixWhat should I be using instead of mirc?
22:11.36kergothyes, foolishness annoys me quickly
22:11.39Neronixs/I/a friend/
22:11.43hasteNeronix: XChat, HydraIRC
22:11.43Neronix:P
22:11.50TupladTekkub: he's not the only one
22:11.51TekkubTrillian!
22:11.51TainAnyway, "mirc script" is vastly insulting the word, "script."
22:11.54NeronixI'll check them out, thanks
22:11.55hasteOpera :p
22:12.01kergothTain: indeed
22:12.06Tekkubyea, but he's the harshest of us here
22:12.07NeronixOpera has an irc client? O.o
22:12.11phyberirssi.  he should build a linux box especially for it.
22:12.12Tupladyes it has
22:12.13hasteit does
22:12.17Tuplada sexy one
22:12.18phyberhe/she/it
22:12.23hastephyber: or cygwin
22:12.31NeronixHmm, I'd rather it was separate :(
22:12.32Tupladgonna get updated in 9 release so badly >:)
22:12.32Wobin_Xchat is quite good
22:12.43NeronixI tried irssi before and didn't really like it :P
22:12.49Amadeo_I prefer mIRC to XChat, and I won't use HydraIRC because I hate Hydra :P
22:12.57Tuplado_O
22:13.06TainJust use emacs as your irc client.
22:13.06TupladOpera IRC > mIRC
22:13.22Neronixemacs? that's a bit overkill
22:13.30hastehttp://irssi.org/themefiles/c0ders.png << use the java builder as a IRC client!
22:13.31Amadeo_The Windows IRC clients with the most potential died long ago
22:13.48TainAmadeo_: Not true, putty works just fine. :)
22:13.52Amadeo_haha
22:14.37hasteputty + screen + irssi = nice combo
22:14.40Tupladcygwin is pretty good actually
22:14.40Amadeo_haste: I have that theme for mIRC :P
22:14.48Tupladused icq & irc on cygwin
22:14.48hasteAmadeo_: :<
22:14.55phyberuse telnet!
22:15.05TainNever!  ssh
22:15.07Neronixisn't putty an ssh client?
22:15.11Tupladye it is
22:15.15Tainputty does telnet as well.
22:15.16Tupladit does way more :]
22:15.26phyberTain: I mean, use telnet as an IRC client ;)
22:15.33Tainack
22:15.34Tainheh
22:15.35Neronixnever knew it could do irc
22:15.56Tekkubtelnet can do everythnig!
22:16.01Taintelnet irc.prison.net 6667
22:16.09Tekkuball those "leet" nerds out there send their mail in tellnet
22:16.20NeronixAh, I didn't know IRC worked over telnet
22:16.31Tupladlong time ago I used to send anonymous mails thru telnet
22:16.31maiaproudmooreyeah, I'm using lynx to access forums.worldofwarcraft.com ;)
22:17.09Amadeo_I used to care what people thought of the applications I used, now just I use what works best instead of trying to be elitist about anything :)
22:17.19Amadeo_Well, I still like to be elitist sometimes, but only when I'm trying to piss someone off
22:17.33TainAh there's nothing wrong with elitism.
22:17.42Tekkubyea, that's best for your health
22:17.47TainEveryone's equal.  But some people are more equal than others.
22:17.52Amadeo_Do you know what the first sign of elitism is, though?
22:17.58Amadeo_Periods!
22:17.59Amadeo_:)
22:18.14Tekkubfucking females
22:18.16Amadeo_hahaha
22:18.34Amadeo_Most times, periods even if you're not typing a sentence
22:18.41Amadeo_And also never capitalizing anything
22:18.58TekkubI don't use periods really... I use elipsies..
22:19.03Neronixlol.
22:19.19Tekkub& ampersands
22:19.24Amadeo_That's not elitism, because elitists wouldn't say lol!
22:19.44TainI knew humanity was doomed the first time I heard someone say, "lol" outloud.
22:19.49Tekkubelitists will say lol... they just don't say lawl
22:19.50Amadeo_haha
22:19.57Tekkubbut only fools say lawl anyway
22:19.59NeronixTain: I know someone who does that -_-
22:20.06Amadeo_Tekkub: I always found that they liked to make up their own laughs
22:20.13Tekkuband the best of the elites say kek or bur, even IRL
22:20.41Amadeo_I made an Alliance char, and I type "lol" when I'm chasing someone just because I know it's saying "bur" :(
22:20.44TekkubI make up my own acronyms, like OLILYBB!
22:21.08phyberhttp://arpa.org/mayo.jpg
22:21.15Amadeo_That sounds good though, I might start using bur or kek instead of lol
22:21.18phyber^ made by someone pissed off with crap like rofl and lol ;)
22:21.38phyberalso, http://arpa.org/lol.jpg (NWS)
22:21.44NeronixAmadeo_: Some ally came to Org the other day to piss off the duellers and he was saying "I bur y yo" or something like that :P
22:21.58Amadeo_bur!
22:22.05maiaproudmoorehmm, another coding question (BUR!): is it possible to add a frame to an addon from a different addon? (and unfortunately I'm still using xml frames, waiting for cladhaires PR0.5 to convert)
22:22.10Amadeo_hahaha
22:22.13Tekkubmy old coworker and I said "rofflemaou" and "qwertuoip" all the time
22:22.21Neronix(
22:22.27Tekkub*qwertyuoip
22:23.07Tekkubmaia, define "add"
22:23.16Wobin_The best one I think is "Chairman RoflMao"
22:23.17NeronixI'm surprised that nobody seems to get my stolen joke
22:23.18Tekkubyou can define frames and attach them to anything
22:24.25maiaproudmooreokay, I'll try... :)
22:24.36Wobin_China has prevented me from seeing those links Phyber
22:24.46NeronixWobin_: Be thankful
22:25.19phyberNeronix: only the second one is bad, which I said was not work safe, so, should be obvious it would be a little bad ;)
22:25.25phyberWobin_: that sucks :/
22:26.25NeronixI didn't expect something that'd eat away another chunk of my sanity ;P
22:26.36phyber:D
22:27.00phybersorry about that.
22:27.07phyberit's one less chunk to worry about though
22:27.12CIA-1703aileen * r1979 10FuBar_FarmerFu/FarmerFu.lua: FuBar_FarmerFu: Switched to using crayon:Green(), as crayon:Colorize() didn't seem to work right
22:30.33Wobin_hehe
22:30.43CodayusHmm, rhere isn't a party equivalent of GetRaidRosterInfo(), is there?
22:30.48Wobin_ckknight should have gone for the actual Crayola names for the colours
22:30.50Wobin_"Brick Red"
22:30.55Wobin_"Grass Green"
22:31.07Wobin_Codayus: I don't believe so, unfortunately
22:31.15CodayusOh well
22:33.40Tekkubhehe.... "After a disconnect from the server, it will be possible to log back in immediately, instead of receiving the message, "A character with that name already exists."!"
22:33.50Tekkub11 patches too late
22:33.54Wobin_Thank god!
22:33.58Tekkubsame with keyrings :P
22:34.09phyberkeyrings!
22:34.32TekkubI don't get why the keyrings scale, or have any size at all really...
22:34.45Wobin_It's like the soulbags et al
22:34.47Wobin_I guess
22:34.59Tekkubare people going to ever take keys out?  are they gonna add a bunch of low level keyed instances that will overflow the ring?
22:35.10phyberbecause it's just another fixed bag slot.  they don't want to have to work too hard ;)
22:35.14Wobin_Easier to use a stable amount of space rather than code up a dynamic bag =P
22:35.37Tekkubso just make a 16-slot keyring for all, and resize it later if needed
22:35.38maiaproudmooredoes Ace provide a function to unhook a hooked function? If yes, can I unhook something from a different addon?
22:35.50Tekkubit's dynamic as is, it'll scale based on level..
22:35.59Wobin_maiaproudmoore: That's not overly safe, overall... =\
22:35.59Tekkubyou can't unhook
22:36.09Tekkubyou can only "safe unheek"
22:36.11maiaproudmoorehmm.
22:36.20Tekkubwhich basically means pretending you're not hooked
22:36.45Tekkubwhy do you want to unhook some other mod?
22:36.47kergothTuplad: yet another annoying script. bold and color is also likely to get you banned.
22:36.56Tekkubwhy are you futzing with another mod anyway...
22:37.23Tekkubplay nice with others... if they don't do somethnig how you want, rewrite the mod don't hackjob at it after it's loaded
22:37.43TainAs tempting as it is sometimes.
22:37.57Tekkubtoo much potental for breaking crap if you're tinkering with someone else's code in-game
22:38.12Tekkubjust rewrite from the ground up, make it better :)
22:38.18Tekkuba good foundation...
22:38.21maiaproudmoorereason is: I'm hooking a ctra function (doh!) in Squishy. Now in the module addon I'm writing I'd not want to call the Squishy hooked function if something is true. Which is why I thought I could make a chain: squishy hooks ctra, squishy module hooks squishy function and returns earlier if necessary
22:38.30NeronixCKKNIGHT! I summon thee!
22:38.33Neronix...
22:38.36Neronixhe's not here :(
22:38.47TainHe's back in his Pokeball
22:38.55Neronix:O
22:39.03maiaproudmoorebut that doesnt work as it should as both hooks trigger independently
22:39.17phyberpokeball :/
22:39.36Tekkubfor inter-module messaging try events...
22:39.53Tekkubhook CTRA's thing, then fire off an event if your condition is met
22:40.09Tekkubif the module is present and registered to that event, bam it's code executes
22:40.27Tekkubno messy inter-mod hooking, works if the module is there or not
22:40.40maiaproudmooreI want it the other way: if the module is present and something is true in it, the core hook shouldnt be executed
22:41.01Tekkubthen work in reverse, on enable in the module fire an event
22:41.02maiaproudmoorebut I'd prefer not to add module logic into the core
22:41.04hasteevents rule for inter-module messaging!
22:41.04Amadeo_I don't call mine *that*
22:41.19Tekkubin your other module register the event, when received do a safe unhook
22:41.23Wobin_Amadeo_: rofl
22:41.35TainPokemon games for the Gameboy are great.  
22:41.57Wobin_Amadeo_: (It also appeared to have gone over most people's head =P)
22:42.11Amadeo_Yeah, maybe I should have said I still play with mine :P
22:42.13Tekkubevetns make "module logic" fairly well unneeded
22:42.30Amadeo_er, "touch" was the key word
22:42.37Tekkubit's basically the inter-module messaging without need of verifying that modules are even present
22:42.53Tain"A Russell County High School student faces a charge of second-degree sodomy after an alleged involvement with a younger female student from the school."
22:42.53maiaproudmoorehmm, I don't really get it - maybe I didnt manage to explain the problem
22:43.07Tekkubin the end you're only working with events instead of testing for a module and calling or hooking or whatever it's functions
22:43.07Wobin_second degree?
22:43.12Wobin_"I fell on him"?
22:43.28Tekkubyou gotta work with the events system a bit to get it I guess
22:43.35Wobin_"It's only fingers"?
22:43.41Tekkubit's a totally different approach than hooks
22:43.44TainThey're both girls.
22:43.51Wobin_Ah, the latter then =P
22:43.54Tekkubhooks are messy anyway, especially if you overuse them
22:44.15TainIt's true, nothing is messier than an overused hook.
22:44.24NeronixHmm...
22:44.39Neronixthat makes me think about what I'm doing with Lexan :S
22:45.02TainThat reminds me, I'd like Lexan to still allow windows to be closed with the Esc button.
22:45.07Tekkubthat's different nero, to do what you want you HAVE to hook
22:45.33NeronixTain: Which windows? I have the AH window toggleable
22:45.42NeronixTekkub: I see
22:45.53Wobin_Since you're 'preventing' something from happening
22:45.55TainWell the AH specifically.  And I ah... haven't actually looked to see if Lexan has options. :)
22:46.02Wobin_Rather than just needing to know when it happens
22:46.07TainWell imagine that.
22:46.07NeronixJust added in the new version
22:46.23Neronixit's off by default to keep Tekkub + the silent mjority happy :P
22:46.25TainThanks for your prompt past attention to my inquiry!
22:46.56Neronix:P
22:47.17TainThat's what I call service.
22:47.28TainGoing back in time to solve a problem before I asked about it!
22:47.47NeronixHeh
22:48.43hastewish I had that ability, meep
22:48.51NeronixThe world map should theoretically still close with esc because the world map isn't removed from uipanels and esc is bound to something that calls hideuipanel()
22:49.05NeronixI don't really see a need to make that configurable
22:49.22Neronixyou don't open things that you can close by pressing esc while you have the world map open :P
22:50.27Wobin_maiaproudmoore: Looking at the forum topic for squishy I see why I wasn't overly enthusiastic about getting MASH to work =P
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22:51.06CIA-1703neronix * r1980 10Lexan/Lexan.lua: Lexan - Lexan.CmdOptions? I thought I baleeted that unused table!
22:51.30NeronixTime to prepare for 2k get
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23:02.26TekkubHOT DICKINGS!
23:02.33cladhaireindeed
23:07.44Codayushmmm
23:08.03CodayusTrying to figure out the AceDebug addon.  Is there some trick to it?
23:08.09cladhaireno
23:08.15cladhaire./acedebug addon addonname
23:08.21CodayusDid that.
23:08.38CodayusAnd I have self:debug() messages...
23:08.40Wobin_The code has to have self:debug("msg") in it
23:08.43CodayusAnd...nothing is printing...
23:08.59Wobin_do you have acedebug on standby?
23:09.01Codayuswait, I think I see.
23:09.35CodayusNope, that wasn't it.  But one /reload later, and it's working.  Oh well...
23:09.50TupladAceDebug ?
23:10.08maiaproudmooreis my server the only server that has a naked night elve corpse named 'welcometoorg' at orgrimmar entrance and anotherone named 'plsqueueforav' at the mailbox?
23:10.23Tupladlol
23:11.31Codayuslol
23:11.38Wobin_<PROTECTED>
23:11.49Tupladaha :O
23:12.13Wobin_It's just formatted nicely
23:12.18Tupladscreenshot :)
23:12.35Wobin_It dumps to the chatframe =)
23:12.45Wobin_[addonname] Eat At Joes
23:13.21Tuplad:O
23:14.08hastelast time I tried AceDebug it spat out a node error
23:14.13hastebut that is quite some time ago also
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23:14.23Wobin_it's always worked fine for me
23:14.50CodayusHmm.  Does PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fire on a /reload?
23:16.24maiaproudmoorenope
23:16.28CodayusDoh
23:17.07maiaproudmoorebut ACE_ADDONS_LOADED does
23:17.42CodayusOkay, nifty.
23:18.08Tekkubyes it does
23:18.51TekkubPEW and PLAYER_LOGIN always fire on reloads
23:19.17Ratbert_CPGrrr...  Stoopid PT...  ;)
23:19.24maiaproudmoorehmm, I have a self:debug("PEW") on that event but it doesnt show.
23:20.11Tekkubtry doing it "the old fassioned way" with a real frame created on load, it fires
23:21.01TekkubAce may not be firing events until after it's fired, but it should be... doesn't ace call init/enable on VARIABLRES_LOADED?
23:23.54CodayusYeah, self:debug("PEW") doesn't fire...
23:24.44Ratbert_CPTekkub: Help...
23:24.56Ratbert_CPPlease...
23:24.57Ratbert_CP:)
23:25.09Wobin_[07:24-1254] MountMe\FuBarInterface.lua:33: attempt to index a nil value
23:25.09Wobin_<PROTECTED>
23:25.11Wobin_=(
23:25.19Wobin_Then again, I haven't updated to latest Fubar
23:25.40Tekkubrule 1: don't bitch at me if you're not up to date
23:25.46Wobin_Which is always an adventure
23:26.01Ratbert_CP:)
23:26.05Tekkublatest fu's all good unless he's broken it in the last 9 hours
23:26.14Wobin_Which is all very possible =P
23:26.17Tekkubwhich, well it is the ckk, there's always a chance
23:29.16Ratbert_CPTekkub: Can you help with a PT issue I'm having?
23:29.40Tekkubno, PT is not an issue and I'm not liscenced to fix the issues you have
23:29.42Tekkub*hides*
23:29.44Ratbert_CPBagBoy.pt:ItemInSets(id, {"water", "waterperc", "waterconjured"}) always returns nil
23:29.54Ratbert_CPEven for Refreshing Spring Water...
23:30.52Ratbert_CPself.pt = PeriodicTableEmbed:GetInstance("1")
23:30.55Tuplad:o
23:31.09Tekkubokey... uhm problem one, don't redeclare that table in every call
23:31.10Ratbert_CPSo you know how I was getting to PT...
23:31.18Tekkubit's a constant, make it one and stop wasting tables
23:31.20Ratbert_CPGood point...
23:32.07Tekkubsecond, uh... you just want a yes/no or are you after all the sets the item is in?
23:32.44Ratbert_CPyes/no
23:33.24Ratbert_CPmy issue is that ItemInSet returns two values, and I was trying to be elegant and not assign the values to temp variables
23:33.47Tekkubuse Set not Sets, it's more efficient
23:35.24CIA-1703wobin * r1981 10MrPlow/MrPlow.lua: MrPlow - Moved a list of categories to be a constant, as Tekk pointed out to Ratty, it didn't need to be created every time
23:35.43Tekkubif you're just testing, if ptlocalthing:ItemInSet(id, set) then...
23:36.16Tekkuband you are including the element module that has the sets you need, right?
23:36.58Ratbert_CPUmmm...  No...  How should that work?  Heh...
23:37.27Tekkubyou need to embed the core and any element sets you need, and put em in your TOC of course, core first
23:38.14Ratbert_CPRight.  That's all done already.  and I get an instance of the core via self.pt = PeriodicTableEmbed:GetInstance("1")
23:39.01Ratbert_CPHow do I include the element module(s)?
23:41.53Tekkubyou don't need to, just make sure they're loaded after core
23:42.16Ratbert_CPOK, they are...
23:43.28Ratbert_CPAnd ItemInSets still returns nil, nil...  But wait a second...
23:44.03Ratbert_CPIt should return 0, nil or 0, {}
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23:44.11Tekkubif you just need yes/no use ItemInSet
23:44.33Ratbert_CPSorry, ItemInSet returns nil, nil, not 0, nil (or 0, {})
23:46.18Tekkubpastebin already you tard :P
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23:46.44Ratbert_CP:)
23:46.50Tupladmirc bored me
23:46.53Tekkubyarr
23:46.55Tekkubmt
23:47.02Wobin_Hm, Ratbert_CP... just -where- is the TRashCrap() function?
23:49.42Ratbert_CPhttp://ace.pastebin.com/727443
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23:50.06Ratbert_CPWobin_: It's in the Initialize function.  I got...  happy...  with loadstring.  :)
23:50.13Wobin_heheh
23:50.44Ratbert_CPAt least it gives me consistient wrappers around the Trash/Sell/Bank functions...  ;)
23:51.03Tekkubrat, the id you're passing is a string is it not...
23:51.20Tekkubis it in the format "item:###" ?
23:51.23Ratbert_CPIt is...  But it should be a number... D'oh!
23:51.35Tekkubor any extra ":###:### after it
23:51.46Tekkubif you pass "1234" PT won't work
23:52.00Tekkubif it's a stirng it looks for "item:(%d+)"
23:53.16Ratbert_CPThat fixed it...  I was passing "1234", so I just tonumber()'d it.
23:56.36Ratbert_CPThanks!

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