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00:07.28Temnewest fubar forgot all my plugin settings
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00:26.35CIA-1703tekkub 07Tekkub * r1884 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (. GuildFu.lua): FuBar_GuildFu (tekkub branch) - Updated tooltips so no more filtering, not converted to 1.2 yet, will soon though....
00:36.01FryGuywho's doing corkfu again?
00:36.05FryGuythat you Tekcub?
00:36.14Amadeo-Tekcub used to be, but now he's only focusing on MountMe
00:36.21FryGuymountme :O
00:36.31Tekcubactually I am working on MM right now
00:36.33Amadeo-hahaha
00:36.35Amadeo-wow :D
00:36.41Amadeo-I was just giving him a hard time
00:36.44TekcubEzDismount is about 99% fluff code, it's sad
00:37.13Amadeo-really? :(
00:37.21Amadeo-that's why I had faith in MM and Tek :)
00:38.01Tekcuband why the hell does it dismount for the AH? is there a reason to do that?
00:40.13Tekcubhrm, EzD will also make you stand or deshift for druid forms, guss I should suppart that too shouldn't I?
00:42.12Industrialinclude wolfie too then
00:44.22Tekcubyea, I plan on it
00:44.31Tekcubit'll do dismounting and deshifting
00:44.37Tekcuband standing I guess
00:51.32Tekcubwow, how sad is this... this is the meat of my EzDismount module....
00:51.38Tekcubfunction MountMeEzDismount:UI_ERROR_MESSAGE()
00:51.39Tekcubif UnitOnTaxi("player") then return end
00:51.39Tekcubif mounterrors[arg1] then self:TriggerEvent("MOUNTME_DISMOUNT")
00:51.39Tekcubelseif shifterrors[arg1] then self:TriggerEvent("MOUNTME_DESHIFT")
00:51.39Tekcubelseif arg1 == standerror then SitOrStand() end
00:51.39Tekcubend
00:51.58TekcubI can write that mod in... 4 lines!
00:53.04Tekcuband unlike EzDis, mine will work for any locale (well this bit will, MountMe Core does need some localization...
00:53.17Amadeo-dismount for AH? that's pointless
00:53.18Amadeo-haha
00:53.30Tekcubyea I didn't put that in
00:57.03Industriali didnt rtfm. this addon you are making mounts you whenever possible, and with interaction with NPC's etc where mounting isnt possible it unmounts you?
00:57.54Tekcubit's a macro/keybind that condenses a bunch of Mount/Travelform logic into one key
00:58.09TekcubAND it will automatically swap mountspeed equipment in
00:58.31Tekcuband now it will auto-dismount or deshift you if you can't do whatever you tried to do in th eform you were in
00:58.46Tekcubor make you stand up too
01:01.41Industrialyay-ish :)
01:02.22Industrialhafta get 40 first :|
01:03.31Tekcubno
01:03.54Tekcubit does druid travelform (30), chamois GW (20?) and hunter AotC/P(20)
01:04.04Industrialhmk
01:04.08Tekcuboh and druid clubedsealion form
01:04.37Industrialwent for male after all Cairenn
01:04.46Cairennheh
01:04.50TekcubI'd give you one
01:04.57Tekcubbig floppy tauren dick!
01:05.00Industrialhis name is "Badeendje", literally Bathducky
01:05.10Industrial:-)
01:05.21Industrial*wow*
01:05.24TekcubI have a tauren named Girth, named in honor of my lil gnome mage fried, Girt
01:08.37CIA-1703tekkub * r1885 10MountMe/ (Core.lua EzDismount.lua MountMe.toc): MountMe - Added EzDismount module, moved Taximap dismount trigger to this module. If you don't want this functionality (it'll deshift druids too) then just delete EzDismount.lua
01:09.18FryGuydoes anyone know why praid randomly stops doing the range thing?
01:09.24Groumphany of you guys able to identify the raid frames in this screenshot?  http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hayt99/twinemps.jpg
01:09.29haste'cause you aren't click casting?
01:09.48FryGuyhuh?
01:09.52hasteGroumph: perl?
01:09.57cladhaireYOu have to be casting a spell for range checking to work
01:09.58FryGuyit usually did it when I cast a spell without a target
01:09.59hasteor maybe not
01:10.06FryGuylike flash heal
01:10.09FryGuyand no target
01:10.11FryGuyit brings up the hand
01:10.16FryGuythen updates the ranges
01:10.22FryGuynever works when i already have a target
01:10.32FryGuyi think that's the easyraid
01:10.39cladhairethats not easyraid
01:10.43FryGuyer
01:10.45FryGuythe other one
01:10.45cladhaireeasyraid uses the blizzard raid frames
01:10.47FryGuytonkraid?
01:11.13FryGuyhttp://www.raidui.com/
01:11.15FryGuydunno
01:11.39Lucenthink thats RDX
01:11.46cladhaireright now it only works if your spell ha  target
01:11.50cladhairei pulled the OnUpdate code out
01:11.54cladhairebut it'll go back in
01:11.56cladhaireits still in beta =)
01:12.00cladhaireand i've deving in a different branch
01:12.28Groumphalright thanks
01:12.32Lucenhttp://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h307/hayt99/twinemps.jpg <-- RDX v5
01:13.31Groumphthanks Lucen
01:13.41cladhaireooh Ninja Gaiden
01:13.59Lucenit's an in guild only (at least current version) raid setup: http://www.scionsofdestiny.com/downloads.aspx
01:14.00cladhairei should play enfos
01:14.13Lucenyou can download v4 from that site groumph
01:17.15Groumphpassworded, was more curious than anything anyways.
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01:20.57Amadeo-Tekcub: I love you
01:40.06Amadeo-hey Tekcub
01:40.14Tekcuboro?
01:40.16Amadeo-does MountMe really use all those libraries, or whatever they are?
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01:42.47hasteLucen: fetch me the hentai rapeometer!
01:42.52hasteIt looks like fun *grin*
01:43.03Lucenwha?!
01:43.44hastehttp://www.scionsofdestiny.com/images/aq/CthunDead2.jpg << top right
01:43.59Lucenhahaha
01:44.12Luceni don't have access to any of the files otherwise i'd have it too..hehe
01:45.02hasteaaaw
01:47.15Tekcubyes ama, it does
01:47.17Tekcubwhy?
02:00.12Amadeo-Just curious, I didn't even realize it had so many folders before :)
02:00.32Amadeo-gotta run, I'll be on later, thank you again (a ton), Tekkub :)
02:00.35Amadeo-<3
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02:09.10Amadeo-Back already!
02:09.42Amadeo-Tekcub, out of curiosity, any way to make this so it'll only dismount you if your action is within range? And maybe dismount and perform that action? Not sure if it's even possible, but curious :)
02:13.48Industrialnn
02:15.08Amadeo-Industrial: When I type /idc
02:15.35Amadeo-AceChatCmd.lua:230: bad argument #4 to `format' (string expected, got nil)
02:27.24Amadeo-:(
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02:34.12Amadeo-night clad :)
02:40.08Tem<PROTECTED>
02:40.13Temoutbid on mana igniting again
02:43.09Tekcubno, it's not
02:43.30Amadeo-not possible?
02:43.32Tekcubno
02:44.02Amadeo-:(
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02:46.08Amadeo-still rocks, it helps me charge :D
03:01.59CIA-1703otravi * r1886 10idChat/idChat.lua: idChat - Fixed the bad argument... error people have been getting.
03:18.26Amadeo-thanks :D
03:24.08ckknighthey all
03:25.45Amadeo-hey ckknight
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03:47.29CIA-1703tekkub 07Tekkub * r1887 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (. GuildFu.lua): FuBar_GuildFu (Tekkub's branch) - Fixed no roster on login.
03:49.45Tekcubhey ckk, what all do I need to do to make Mail not require FuBar?
03:54.58ckknightput the FuBarPlugin-1.2, TabletLib, DewdropLib, and CompostLib embeds in the mail folder
03:55.05ckknightpretty much.
03:55.17ckknightchange your toc a bit for those
03:55.22ckknightset FuBar to an optionaldep
04:14.34Tekcubrighto
04:14.36Tekcubkewl
04:18.05Wobin_I'm wondering. Can anyone think of a feasible way to detect what skill a mouse pointer is over on the actionbuttons?
04:18.08TainMan how the hell did I play this game without MrPlow?
04:18.31ckknightbrb
04:18.33Wobin_It makes onebags feasible =P
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04:43.51FryGuytem: if it's an consolation, I have a mana igniting on my priest for when i dps :p
04:44.04Temdie in a fire
04:44.13FryGuy:\
04:44.14TemI'm still wearing a fucking blue
04:44.38Temthe mage the outbid me already had NW
04:44.42FryGuywell..  http://ctprofiles.net/54552
04:45.13Temhe mentioned some bullshit about +crit
04:45.26FryGuysome mages really like crit
04:45.29FryGuyi don't understand :/
05:02.44CIA-1703tekkub * r1888 10PerfectRaidTargets/ (. Core.lua PerfectRaidTargets.toc):
05:02.44CIA-17PerfectRaidTargets
05:02.44CIA-17- Shuffled code for better organization, moved a few things to locals
05:02.44CIA-17- Added max number of frames, currently set for 10
05:02.44CIA-17- Tweaked update rates, first frame from player's target will update at 20/sec, all other frames will scale their rate depending on how many frames are up, so more targets will not cause extra updates to occur
05:02.48CIA-17- Forcing an update after player's target changed, but this is untested, lag may make it pointless anyway.
05:04.13FryGuyTekcub: can you add something to make it put arrows on the right side saying which tank has it
05:04.15FryGuylike
05:04.35Tekcubsleep now, sod off
05:04.38FryGuy12 > Hakkar             | ------------------   | < 1 2 3 4 5
05:04.39FryGuy:(
05:04.54FryGuyand get rid of the MT window thing
05:04.59Tekcubwork at 10, fucker is making me pay for asking for a day off
05:05.17TekcubMT "thing" is going to be disabled by default
05:05.38TekcubI'm sick of tanks frankly, they are totally contradictory to how PRT works
05:06.09FryGuyi agree
05:06.15FryGuythat's why you do it the way i'm saying
05:06.17FryGuyand it's not :)
05:06.35FryGuyjust sort it so the #1 target is before the #2 target
05:09.20Tekcubnope, no sorting
05:09.31Tekcubjust gonna show targets
05:10.01Tekcubsick of tanks, don't like em
05:11.38Tekcubfrankly I don't understand this outcry from healers too and the ToT bullshit
05:11.50Tekcubthis mod is for TARGETS, shit you attack
05:12.07Tekcubif you have certain units you want to HEAL then don't use this for it :P
05:12.18Tekcubit's NOT a MT frame
05:13.02Tekcubtho I'm still considering making a PRToT that shows all ToT'd units
05:13.15Tekcubit makes more sense really
05:13.27Tekcubanyway I'm ranting when I should be sleeping, buhbye!
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05:36.57Amadeo-I think I'm sick of having an underscore or hyphen after my name
05:37.02Amadeo-I need a new nick, someone help me out
05:38.35Wobin_I know how you feel
05:38.50Wobin_But I'm stuck with my name =(
05:39.16Amadeo-:(
05:39.19Amadeo-hehe
05:39.32Amadeo-I've been looking for a new nick for ages
05:39.54[Wobin]Amadeus?
05:40.20Amadeo-haha
05:40.30Amadeo-well, Amadeo is my Warlock name, it's not my typical IRC nick
05:40.33Amadeo-that one's taken too, though
05:41.02[Wobin]What's your typical ircnick?
05:41.59Amadeo-Zenon, which is the one I've been wanting to change for ages :)
05:42.24Amadeo-I chose it when I was about 13, and I don't even remember why
05:42.51ckknight<cough>nerd</cough>
05:43.16Amadeo-:)
05:43.18Amadeo-Absolutely
05:43.41ckknightmeh, I'm watching Smallville, so I'm not one to talk
05:44.01Amadeo-:)
05:44.15kergothi changed nicks like 7 times.  was 'anarch' by when i was 15, i remember that i opened a dictionary and picked it at random.  still remember the definition.  then went to phantast (a visionary) and a few others.  finally pulled kergoth out of my ass one day to come up with a name for the game server i was running.  heh
05:44.18Amadeo-I used to BBS on a 2400 baud
05:44.22[Wobin]hehe
05:44.25kergoththeres a definate advantage to picking a nick that isnt a word or an existing name
05:44.32[Wobin]I wonder just -how- feasible this roguetimer will be
05:44.32Amadeo-Yep, exactly
05:44.35Amadeo-I want to make a name up
05:44.45kergothand disadvantage... googling for kergoth _is_ my irc logs.. some of which are .. shall we say.. not pleasant
05:44.45Amadeo-[Wobin]: The energy one?
05:44.49kergothhehe
05:44.51[Wobin]yeah
05:44.59kergothi miss bbsing.
05:45.03Amadeo-Me too :)
05:45.07Amadeo-[Wobin]: I want it!
05:45.13[Wobin]I've got it so that it checks if the actionbutton you're currently mousing over has enough energy, and colours the bar accordingly
05:45.20kergothi need to find a good telnet bbs so i can do some old school door games :D
05:45.31[Wobin]I just don't know if it'll be too laggy to work =P
05:45.40[Wobin]LotRD!
05:46.11Amadeo-[Wobin]: Nobody clicks stuff in WoW!
05:46.19kergothi should code.
05:46.21kergothlets see...
05:46.23[Wobin]feh I do =)
05:46.39Amadeo-:)
05:46.45Amadeo-I click a lot, but have quite a bit bound
05:47.00kergothokay, i think i've got a plan of attack to fix up the mixin behavior in my object model, then i can actually get to using it
05:47.05kergoth~emulate me
05:47.07purlACTION hmms.
05:47.09kergothhaha, yay
05:47.17kergoth~botsnack
05:47.17purlaw, gee, kergoth
05:47.27[Wobin]rofl
05:47.38kergothit emulates me well :D
05:47.41[Wobin]I need a name for my roguetimer =P
05:47.55Amadeo-hm
05:47.57kergothwhat are you timing?
05:48.02[Wobin]energy regen
05:48.09[Wobin]and available energy
05:48.16kergothah, the ticks? like energywatch?  or like the usual energy bar?
05:48.22kergothor both?
05:48.31[Wobin](ie whether you have enough energy to perform whatever actionbutton you're hovering over)
05:48.37[Wobin]The ticks =)
05:48.46kergothexcellent.  i need a good one of those
05:48.51kergothhurray for not button mashing
05:48.53Amadeo-hm, names
05:49.04Amadeo-do you want Energy in it?
05:49.49kergothi cannot overstate my inability to name things
05:50.00Amadeo-I was thinking Energen, but I googled it and it's a company
05:50.07Amadeo-haha
05:50.12Amadeo-I'm not good with names either
05:52.28ckknightman, Clark and Chloe should just hook up
05:53.57ckknightso should Martha and Lionel
05:54.05ckknightand everyone should vote in Lex for president
05:58.21[Wobin]hm
05:58.26[Wobin]I could update on onupdate
05:58.31[Wobin]which would make more sense
05:58.43[Wobin]or update the colour on Unit_Energy which would be less intensive
06:01.52[Wobin]okay that works nicely =)
06:01.57[Wobin]code cleanup time =P
06:02.02Amadeo-:D
06:02.21[Wobin]Do you have a rogue you can help me test this on, Amadeo- ?
06:02.48Amadeo-only a level 13 :P
06:02.49Amadeo-lol
06:03.27[Wobin]A roguetimer is for all levels!
06:03.33[Wobin]I still need a better name =P
06:04.16TainI rely on my internal timer for Rogue ticks.  I don't know if I could go by a bar.
06:05.16Amadeo-Tain: I don't know if that's possible on an opener!
06:06.00[Wobin]mousesaver =P
06:06.25Amadeo-[Wobin]: I'll pull it up on my 13 though, if you'd like :)
06:06.38[Wobin]I'll drop it up as RogueTimer =P
06:07.14Amadeo-until it's renamed, I hope ;)
06:07.31[Wobin]yeah =P
06:07.51TainEnergon Cube
06:08.36[Wobin]I'll have to change the statusbar to pink then =P
06:11.06Amadeo-Energy Star
06:11.06Amadeo-rofl
06:11.36[Wobin]Lucozade
06:12.21TainFuel Pump
06:13.58[Wobin]Penfold: Cause it's the sidekick of the mouse rogue
06:14.09[Wobin](and dear god that's obscure0
06:14.13Tainhah
06:14.32TainI'd almost start using that peripheral to make an addon named Danger Mouse.
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06:18.08[Wobin]GonffBar
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06:18.21[Wobin]Just cause I've always enjoyed Brian Jaques
06:29.19Amadeo-is it done yet? :D
06:30.54CIA-1703wobin * r1889 10GonffBar/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
06:30.54CIA-17GonffBar - Inital import
06:30.54CIA-17- A energywatch bar for mouse rogues
06:30.54CIA-17- Changes bar colour according to whether the actionbutton you are currently mousing over has enough energy to execute.
06:31.00[Wobin]yes =P
06:31.01Amadeo-woohoo
06:32.08Amadeo-I assume it turns off if you're not on a Rogue? :)
06:32.52[MoonWolf]does it turn on for catform druids ?
06:32.59Amadeo-oh yeah, or them
06:33.00Amadeo-:)
06:35.23Amadeo-ok
06:35.24Amadeo-on load
06:35.32CIA-1703wobin * r1890 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - Added notes to the header
06:35.37[Wobin]hm
06:35.40Amadeo-GonffBarLocals.lua:59: attempt to index global `GonffBar' (a nil value)
06:35.51kergothWoot, much better.
06:37.33CIA-1703wobin * r1891 10GonffBar/GonffBarLocals.lua: GonffBar - fixed a typo
06:37.38[Wobin]It'll only ever appear I always have issues when renaming =P
06:37.44[Wobin]hm
06:37.52[Wobin]I always have issues when renaming =P
06:38.08[Wobin]It'll only ever appear when unit_energy fires, so never if you're not an energyuser
06:39.30[Wobin]hm
06:39.35[Wobin]I should put combat points on it
06:39.51[Wobin]where would it fit on the bar the best?
06:40.00[Wobin]Or next to the bar?
06:40.20Amadeo-hm
06:40.45Amadeo-I need to be able to resize it, and I think you should have it always display, since you can time an opener right before you get an energy tick
06:41.12Amadeo-:)
06:41.22Amadeo-going to find a mob
06:41.22Amadeo-haha
06:41.35[Wobin]you can resize it like otravi's casting bar
06:41.59[Wobin]and how about only showing when in stealth if you're not in combat?
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06:42.19Amadeo-but I think the main purpose of an energy bar is for the opener
06:42.23[Wobin]although gouge can be executed out of stealth...
06:42.27[Wobin]hm, okies
06:42.36Amadeo-how do you resize it? let me check
06:42.47Amadeo-oh duh
06:42.49Amadeo-I didn't see "bar" haha
06:42.56[Wobin]tbh, I don't know how to actually have it run on tick
06:43.11[Wobin]I'll have to look into that =P
06:44.17Amadeo-Maybe look in EnergyWatch V2 to see how he's got it
06:44.26Amadeo-I'm really liking this though
06:44.38Amadeo-this will be on every Rogues addon list when it's all done :
06:44.39Amadeo-:)
06:45.40[Wobin]except for the hotkey using rogues
06:46.05[Wobin]I've got a laptop though, and for me, chances are I'm going to mistype the hotkeys =P
06:46.53Amadeo-I'm not sure what the click does yet, I just want the energy bar :)
06:47.49Amadeo-You know what might be cool?
06:47.54Amadeo-you were talking about combo points
06:48.08Amadeo-Maybe the bar changes color based on how many points you have on a target
06:48.17Amadeo-I dunno, is that too confusing? :P
06:49.27[Wobin]hm possible... but possibly confusing
06:49.50Amadeo-the ticks seem pretty accurate, though once every so often it looks like it's a milisecond fast
06:50.05[Wobin]The ticks aren't really that accurate =)
06:50.15[Wobin]Or rather the energy regen events
06:50.28[Wobin]I get_timed them, and they hardly ever were exactly 2 seconds
06:50.36Amadeo-I see
06:50.43[Wobin](granted, it may have lost some time due to processing, but I dunno...)
06:50.53Amadeo-well if it runs all the time, that problem might go away
06:51.18[Wobin]stealth costs energy, doesn't it?
06:51.42Amadeo-nope
06:51.46Amadeo-not for a Rogue anyway
06:51.52[Wobin]hm
06:51.55Amadeo-have no idea bout druids, I doubt they do either
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07:13.28Neronix`afkExams >.>
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07:29.04kergothmm, thats better. now..
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07:37.48[MoonWolf]kergoth, how are things going ?
07:42.33kergoth[MoonWolf], quite good, just writing unit tests for the model, then writing up some real world examples of usage, then the high level documentation and api documentation
07:42.51[MoonWolf]so the actual code is pretty much done ?
07:43.05[MoonWolf]except for bugs/quirks
07:43.07kergothdepends, need to discuss the implementation with tem, clad, and kael
07:43.22kergothif they agree the api is fine, we're mostly set, imo
07:43.32kergothjust doing cleanup
07:43.33[MoonWolf]good luck getting them all online at the same time.
07:43.38kergothyeah no kidding
07:43.43[MoonWolf]looking forward to it.
07:43.49kergothi'll use the forum once i finish the docs and tests and such
07:44.27kergothi had some fun implementing the method embedding, with sane backing out
07:44.47[MoonWolf]kergoth: ace2: credits for the core go to kergoth, collective forums,WHO ??
07:45.05kergothso if you embed a mixin that has methods 'a', 'b', and 'c', and your destination has just 'c', when it encounters the failure, it needs to remove its a and b methods from the target on its way out
07:45.09kergothso it doesnt leave anything behind
07:45.16FryGuyis ace2 going to be embedable?
07:45.28kergothbut i didnt want to use a temporary table to hold it, so just made it recursive, using pcall()'s like asserts :)
07:45.30[MoonWolf]that is its whole point
07:45.36FryGuy:D
07:45.36kergothFryGuy, yes, completely new architecture
07:45.48[MoonWolf]if not we would be busy writing code.
07:45.49FryGuyjust need timex to be embedable now :D
07:46.17[MoonWolf]kergoth, so if I understand this correctly
07:46.20kergothif nobody gets to it first, i'm planning on doing something like timexbars, but which is embeddable and uses haste's textures so they arent ugly
07:46.25kergothheh
07:46.29[MoonWolf]you create a base object based on lets say aceobject
07:46.35[MoonWolf]aceclass*
07:46.45[MoonWolf]and mixin acedb and acecmd ?
07:46.49[MoonWolf]or something like that
07:46.52kergothyup.  usage:
07:47.20kergothlocal theclassineed = ClassPool(WhateverTheClassIs, AceDB, AceHooks)
07:47.26kergothlocal myaddonobject = theclassineed()
07:47.31kergothmyaddonobject.name = "foo"
07:48.09kergothaddons wont need to create their own classes, just obtain one with the mixins they want out of the pool
07:49.00[MoonWolf]yep
07:49.15[MoonWolf]how much garbage theclassindeed thing create ?
07:49.26[MoonWolf]because its yust a create and forget thingy
07:49.27kergothcalling it?
07:49.42kergothoh, they'll be shared among addons via the pool
07:50.00[MoonWolf]k
07:50.02kergothclasses wont be gc'd until there are no objects created from them
07:50.17kergoththe pool will be a weak table, so they're free to go away if that occurs
07:50.24[MoonWolf]so if another addond somewhere creates a basically the same class, nothing happens.
07:50.27kergothyup
07:50.35kergoththey just grab the existing one and make their object and run with it
07:50.42kergoththe classes in the pool will be read only
07:50.46kergothotherwise itd hose the whole idea
07:50.59[MoonWolf]yeah
07:51.12[MoonWolf]I like it.
07:51.17[MoonWolf]not that that means a lot.
07:51.20[MoonWolf]but I do.
07:52.06kergothi'll show some examples of other use cases than just the addon object itself of course, like itll be quite common to create a class for an addon's plugins/modules
07:52.40kergothprobably want to make that into a mixin/acelibrary of course, what clad has been calling an 'aceaddonmodule' in the forums
07:52.47[MoonWolf]you could create a pure cmd module for example ?
07:53.34kergothclad's gonna be doing acehooks and such as a Mixin/AceLibrary, since those are methods we want available inside the addon objects.
07:54.35kergothyou can create an acelibrary without making it a mixin, so it could be a class or whatever else.  and you can make a mixin that isnt an acelibrary, like if you want to make one thats only used locally in your addon for convenience
07:54.36kergothgood fun
07:58.46[Wobin]What's the difference between DebugFu and DebugFuProfiler?
08:12.47Elkano^grrDebugFuProfiler was written by tekkub before ck did DebugFu (maybe based on the first), wasn't it?
08:13.32[Ammo]morrning
08:14.21[MoonWolf]morning
08:20.40[Ammo]Twin emps are biatches
08:21.04[Ammo]or rather some of our players think blizzards are a good way to cool down :p
08:25.56[MoonWolf]lol
08:26.07[MoonWolf]well, they bring a good chill
08:27.14[Ammo]oh indeed
08:27.23[Ammo]right till the bone
08:39.58[Wobin]Is Special Events embedded yet?
08:40.14[Wobin](And DebugFu is only for Fubar plugins
08:40.15[Wobin])
08:49.09GngskI belive there's an embedded version of special events tekkub is using in corkfu
08:50.06Gngsker, nvm, looks like it's just for auras
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09:07.31FryGuyblizzard is teh sux
09:07.35FryGuyhate that thing :(
09:07.56FryGuyalways making me waste mana on shielding myself and running away
09:08.08[Ammo]yeah
09:08.09FryGuyexploding bugs are equally annoying making me move :(
09:08.19FryGuyi used a lot of consumables today too
09:08.28FryGuygot to 1% and they got close and healed to 15% :(
09:08.47[Ammo]we had our first few decent attempts on them
09:09.10FryGuywe killed em though
09:09.20FryGuyused 10 NDB, 4 major mana, and 1 dark rune
09:09.30FryGuyran out of whippers or would've probably used some of those too
09:09.35[Ammo]hee
09:09.42[Ammo]our best was 89%
09:09.44FryGuydark runes are dangerous
09:09.49[Ammo]they can crit )
09:09.54FryGuyya
09:09.58Shyvasame here [Ammo]... :-)
09:10.00FryGuyi died cause of them a couple time
09:10.02FryGuys
09:10.14FryGuylike using them on ouro right before sand blast
09:10.22FryGuyor on c'thun right before eye beamed :(
09:10.23[Ammo]but this was our first night of trying them
09:10.30FryGuyactually wait i don't use them on c'thun
09:10.40Shyvawe only had 1 night of trying too...
09:10.45[Ammo]they are fun though
09:10.56FryGuyit's a fun fight
09:10.58Shyvayep
09:11.00FryGuyby fun i mean hectic
09:11.05Shyvabut huhuran is still a pain in the ass
09:11.05[Ammo]but healers need to be on the ball
09:11.06FryGuyc'thun is a really fun fight
09:11.15[Ammo]huhuran this week we had only 13 death
09:11.21FryGuyi think best in the game
09:11.28[Ammo](second kill on huhuran)
09:11.40FryGuyheh we had like 20 dead today
09:11.42Shyvaour first kill we had 2 deaths, second kill -> 15 -_-
09:12.04[Ammo]at least i have my job at twin emps under control :)
09:12.29Shyvawarlock right?
09:12.32[Ammo]walk up to the caster, death coil to prevent him running to the healers on the other side, and searing pain spam
09:12.42[Ammo]yeah
09:12.46[Ammo]after that the MT takes over
09:12.49Shyva:-)
09:12.49[Ammo]at the first teleport
09:12.57[Ammo]and I'm free to frolick around with the bugs
09:36.57FryGuydeath coil? :/
09:37.06[Ammo]instacast :)
09:37.07FryGuyi thought they were immune
09:37.15[Ammo]I just need some instant threat
09:37.20FryGuyoh
09:37.21[Ammo]and death coil works fine for that ;)
09:38.31FryGuyhow much SR/HP you have?
09:38.42[Ammo]277 SR buffed, with 7k hp
09:38.46FryGuynice
09:38.49[Ammo]but I only need to survive the initial pull
09:38.53FryGuydo you have the pet thing?
09:38.54[Ammo](without titan flask)
09:38.58[Ammo]yeah using Soul Link
09:39.04FryGuyya you should never die :p
09:39.27Shyvawe use titans very often.. enough money in the guild bank anyways...
09:39.34FryGuyonly bad thing is you need 4 warlocks for that fight
09:39.44[Ammo]no yyou only need 1
09:39.52FryGuywell to do it right
09:39.56[Ammo]warriors can tank after the initial pulll
09:40.05[Ammo]after the first teleport warriors tank em
09:40.06FryGuythey take too much damage :/
09:40.08[Ammo]and you only damage the melee one
09:40.10FryGuywarriors
09:40.10[Ammo]naah
09:40.18FryGuywarlock takes like 0 damage
09:40.27FryGuywarrior takes full :/
09:40.35[Ammo]not if they have good gear
09:40.41[Ammo]the warlock stuff is just too tricky
09:40.41FryGuywhat do your warlock/mages do then?
09:40.45[Ammo]fight bugs
09:40.51FryGuywhat a waste :/
09:40.54[Ammo]shrug
09:41.00[Ammo]it's much more controlled that way
09:41.21FryGuyeh
09:41.26FryGuyif you say so :p
09:55.39Shyvadoes accept wow files in UTF-8?
09:55.51Shyva(lua files)
09:56.13Elkano^grryes
09:56.33Shyvathanks :-)
09:57.01Elkano^grrnvn :)
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12:01.38Industrial*yawn*
12:23.33Industrialjoke of the day: Do druids shit in the forest?
12:49.36ThianaHmm, no bit operators in lua?
12:52.31Thiana~seen hyperChipmunk
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12:56.30CIA-1703wobin * r1892 10GonffBar/ (GonffBar.lua GonffBarLocals.lua): GonffBar - reformatted code to more my methods, and added in stealth/combat/allthetime viewing. Will hopefully work for druids too, need to test
12:57.29[Wobin]Thiana: Not afaik
12:58.40CIA-1703ammo * r1893 10oRA_Assist/ (oRA_Assist.lua oRA_Assist.toc oRA_Assist.xml): oRA_Assist: Updated oRA_Assist to the new style frames in .lua
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13:06.48[Wobin]I swear there's a memory leak somewhere in the acedb stuff
13:07.05[Ammo]if you want memory leaks try the damagemeters 4.3 beta :p
13:07.24[Wobin]hehe
13:07.32[Ammo]114kb/s
13:07.35[Ammo]or something like it
13:07.45[Wobin]currently running 4.2.1
13:07.49[Ammo]4.2.1 is fine
13:07.54[Ammo]4.3 is evil
13:08.07[Wobin]Nah, it's just that I had a db get in an onupdate on my bar
13:08.15[Wobin]And I literally watched it climb non-stop =P
13:11.43[Ammo]I wonder if I should create the raid leader coloring of [Raid] messages
13:11.55[Ammo]for oRA
13:13.09[Ammo]that would mean hooking the chatmessageadd
13:13.50ShyvaI like that function of ctra personaly..
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13:23.56Tem*sigh* time to work
13:27.04[Wobin]Tekkub! A suggestion for MountMe
13:27.19Elkano^grrhave it work all the time? ;)
13:27.24[Wobin]For hunters: you've got the 'if moving cast aspect of the pack'
13:27.36[Wobin]but how about if they hit it twice, while moving it shifts to Aspect of the Cheetah
13:27.47[Wobin]or starts with AotC and shifts to AotP
13:30.01[Wobin]I <3 Ace's ability to allow a rl to load up addons
13:32.37CIA-1703otravi * r1894 10oRA/ (oRA_Core.lua oRA_CoreLocals.lua):
13:32.37CIA-17oRA:
13:32.37CIA-17- Added delay function to updateRoster(), in-case RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE wants to chain fire.
13:32.37CIA-17- Renamed the RMembers table to RosterInfo, since it actually explains what it will contain.
13:32.37CIA-17- Improved AFK and DND patterns (thanks Soin).
13:32.38CIA-17- updateRoster() improve, it will now be used to contain information about the members of the raid (ie. AFK, DND, rank, etc). This was originally intended.
13:32.43CIA-17- Some minor changes, hopefully I didn't break anything.
13:33.47[Ammo]hmm
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13:34.17[Ammo]how to hook the chatframe Addmessage function only when a raid message is being added
13:35.41hasteno idea :O
13:36.34[Ammo]CTRA does it in the following way:
13:36.44[Ammo]hook chatframe_onevent
13:36.51[Ammo]check if it's a CHAT_MSG_RAID event
13:37.09[Ammo]if so and it's the raidleader, hook the Addmessage function fire the original onevent, and unhook
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13:42.15[Ammo]I could just hook the addmessage function and check if it contains [Raid] but that might be performance intensive
13:55.38hastewell, you can just do a performance check on the two pieces of code
13:56.39[Ammo]hooking the chatframe event and doing the hook on addmessage in there will work best I think
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14:07.49haste[Wobin]: you should add a couple of nil checks on your energywatch :p
14:07.55haste[Wobin]: and height is borked ^^
14:08.09[Wobin]howso?
14:08.33CIA-1703shyva 07Shyva * r1895 10BigWigs/Shyva/: (log message trimmed)
14:08.33CIA-17BigWigs: BigWigs:
14:08.33CIA-17- Removed all the non-english locals. (Just becuase I like it this way.)
14:08.33CIA-17- Fixed some checks to work faster.
14:08.33CIA-17- Code clean up.
14:08.34CIA-17- Added tell events.
14:08.36CIA-17- Added Viscidus and C'thun to AQ40. (Thanks Haste!)
14:09.05haste[Wobin]: try writing /gb bar height
14:09.18haste[Wobin]: you have a capital C on the locals, but not on the function ;)
14:09.29[Wobin]heh probably
14:11.08Temhaste: which even do I need to use!
14:11.27Temhaste: new ready checks are *hot*  esp the raidleader version
14:11.48CIA-1703wobin * r1896 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: gonffBar - Fixed some typos
14:12.12hasteTem: for ;) ?
14:12.21Temevent* for MT ui
14:12.25Temer, MT frames
14:12.35TemI'm making a set in the PRaid style
14:13.37[Ammo]Tem: hehe raidleader version was hot already
14:13.38hasteCTRASPY_MAINTANKS_UPDATED is the MT list
14:13.47[Wobin]Bah
14:13.50[Ammo]Tem: haste updated the looks
14:13.54[Wobin]I still read that as CRISPY
14:14.06hastethe first arg is a table with the MTs
14:14.40Temhow is the table formatted?
14:16.07hasteself.MainTankTable[tonumber(maintanknum)] = maintank << says enough I guess
14:16.27haste[Wobin]: add a option to make it grow also ;)
14:16.33Temhaste: does it have gaps?
14:16.42[Wobin]Grow?
14:16.52haste[Wobin]: yes grow!
14:16.53[Wobin]Which way?
14:16.59hastefrom left to the right
14:17.00Temwhat's gonffBar?
14:17.05[Wobin]Oh yeah
14:17.13hasteTem: *confused* gaps ;< ?
14:17.15[Wobin]I didn't like that way, so I didn't put it in =)
14:17.26haste[Wobin]: then I'll hack my local version :p
14:17.32hasteI got a great idea ^^
14:17.33Tem{[1] = "raid1", [3] = "raid7"}
14:17.33[Wobin]Tem: It's a roguetimer for mouse rogues
14:17.42Temroguetimer?
14:17.48Temmouse rogues?
14:17.51[Wobin]ticktimer, energywatch thingie
14:17.55Temaha
14:17.57hasteit doesn't contain unit, only the name of the player
14:18.05Temwhy is it special for mouse rogues?
14:18.09Temhaste: BAH
14:18.14[Wobin]it changes colour if the actionbutton you're hovering over has enough energy to execute
14:18.27Tem[Wobin]: oh fun
14:18.40[Ammo]Tem: it should contain the name of the player because the MT can be moved from group to group
14:18.51Temright
14:19.03TemI want an event that fires anytime an MT's raidid changes
14:19.11Temand gives me a list of the mt's raid id
14:19.26Tems/mt's/mts'/
14:19.47[Wobin]oh yeah, I was going to have it optionally vertical as well
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14:23.42haste[Wobin]: how many typos did you fix :p ?
14:23.42Temhaste: so... is there anything that fires to tell me that the raidid has changed for a given MT?
14:23.53[Wobin]probably not enough =)
14:23.55hasteTem: nope
14:23.58Tem<PROTECTED>
14:24.02[Wobin]I'm a bit sleepy atm
14:24.06Temdo I need to watch RRU then?
14:24.52CIA-1703ratbert * r1897 10BagBoy/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BagBoy: Stupid developer
14:25.07[Wobin]We had a guild in my MUD called that
14:25.08hasteTem: I can _probably_ add the unit into the RosterInfo table if you want
14:25.10[Wobin]It was made of priests
14:25.16[Wobin]Resurrections R Us
14:25.21Temhaste: don't worry about it
14:25.32hastehehe, hokai
14:25.47Temit makes creating MT Frames a little bit more of a pain, but meh it's not that huge of a deal
14:26.38Temok, I need a name for this bitch
14:27.14[Wobin]Maureen?
14:27.17TainSusan
14:27.29Tem... lol
14:27.37haste[Wobin]: you miss a ) on line 302
14:27.55[Wobin]yeh =)
14:27.56[Wobin]one sec
14:28.06haste[Wobin]: same on 321
14:28.20hasteerr
14:28.24hastethat one just looks wrong :p
14:28.26TemoRA_PerfectRaidMTFrames
14:28.28[Wobin]It is =)
14:28.32CIA-1703wobin * r1898 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - Oh look more typos
14:28.47Temso... bleh
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14:32.10haste[Wobin]: you broke /gb bar border now :p
14:32.18[Wobin]bah =)
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14:34.46hastealso [Wobin] ... you have a typo in your toc
14:34.54[Wobin]I do?
14:35.00[Wobin]Man this is a long night=)
14:35.00haste## SavedVariables: GnoffBarDB
14:35.05hasteGnoff instead of Gonff
14:35.21[Wobin]Ta =)
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14:44.17hastenow I need to make the bar go the other way, then I'm satisfied!
14:45.43hasteI found another typo :p
14:46.25hasteLine 168: it should be GonffBar.k.StealthAura and not GonffBar.var.StealthAura (if I'm not very wrong)
14:48.49hastealso, the bar is wrong when I'm hammering my sinisters :p
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14:49.35Amadeo-mornin'
14:50.42[Wobin]haste how so?
14:51.49haste[Wobin]: well, if I use my sinister, it resets the timer - but the tick still comes when it was before the timer was reset
14:51.52haste(man that sounded strange)
14:52.13[Wobin]hm
14:52.26[Wobin]I think I'll have to get the tick to only tick when energy goes up
14:52.29[Wobin]kinda
14:52.40[Wobin]lets see ohw that works
14:55.27Industrialwtb xp pro sp2 cdkey
14:55.46Industrial1s pls u mak gud price4me
14:55.51[Wobin]I gave up finding those
14:56.05[Wobin]I just use one that's been for multiple computers and tell them I'm reinstalling
14:56.13Industrialgimme :P
14:56.18haste[Wobin]: http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_051706_165347.png << it looks nice after I've changed it tho' :p
14:56.27TainGo to #warezRus or something
14:57.25haste[Wobin]: oh, and you might want to prevent it from loading on other classes
14:57.33[Wobin]hm, sure
14:57.39[Wobin]apart from druid I guess
14:57.49hasteyeh
14:57.51CIA-1703ammo * r1899 10oRA_BigWigs/oRA_BigWigs.lua: oRA_BigWigs: Added support for the BIGWIGS_SENDTELL event. It will only whisper if the player using oRA_BigWigs is promoted.
14:58.04[Wobin]Although maybe I'll just make it so it creates the bar on the first energy update
15:04.25Amadeo-I think that's how EW works unless you type /ew on
15:04.53[Wobin]CAn you see a use for it outside of stealth/combat?
15:05.38Amadeo-waiting for the near-end of a tick to start an opener, so you gain energy right after
15:05.56Amadeo-brb
15:06.02gngsk|that'd be in stealth :P
15:06.11[Wobin]yeah
15:06.15[Wobin]That's what I was thinking
15:06.21[Wobin]I can't think of any opener that wouldn't be from stealth
15:06.32Gngskone use I know of is for lava hopping
15:06.42[Wobin]how's that work?
15:06.51Gngskif you jump on the tick you can avoid damage from lava
15:07.44Gngskthe trick is, it doesn't go off server ticks, they're the same 2s interval but it starts when you enter the lava I belive
15:08.21Gngskthat's a whole different business, but it kinda applies =)
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15:09.04CIA-1703ammo * r1900 10BigWigs/AQ20/Buru.lua: BigWigs: Added whisper for Buru's watching.
15:10.40CIA-1703ammo * r1901 10BigWigs/AQ40/Defenders.lua: BigWigs: AQ40 Defenders: Added whisper to plagued players
15:11.23[Ammo]haste: didn't you have a viscidious and ctun BigWigs module?
15:12.32hasteAmadeo-: look at shyvas branch - they are there
15:12.39[Ammo]no they aren't
15:12.44[Ammo]he updated his branch wrong
15:13.01[Ammo]or lost them
15:13.05hastekek
15:13.05[Ammo]check the SVN yourself :)
15:13.08[Ammo]that's why I am asking
15:13.45hasteI'll pastebin them
15:14.32haste[Ammo]: http://pastebin.ca/56591 << C'Thun, the timers have to be updated tho'
15:14.34CIA-1703ammo * r1902 10BigWigs/MC/BaronGeddon.lua: BigWigs: added whispering of bomb victims
15:14.47[Ammo]want to commit them into the trunk?
15:14.52[Ammo]if they're working :)
15:14.54haste[Ammo]: http://pastebin.ca/56592 << viscidus
15:14.58[Ammo]meh I'll do it
15:15.03hasteI'm not sure if C'Thun works now
15:15.13hasteI haven't updated to the new values after he was made harder
15:15.28hasteI also have a timer for dark glare now
15:15.33[Ammo]hmm
15:15.38hasteI can finish it later today if you want
15:15.42[Ammo]well I'll commit this
15:15.45[Ammo]and you just update it ok? :)
15:15.46haste(I need to get it done before tomorrow anyway)
15:15.48hasteaye
15:16.04hasteyou might want to change the messages a little :p
15:16.13hasteI added a little "hentai" touch to them :p
15:16.28[Ammo]no way
15:16.29[Ammo]they're cool
15:16.30hasteWas fun hearing the raid leader saying "Incoming tentacle rape party" on VT ^^
15:17.22[Ammo]it's Viscidious isn't it
15:17.27[Ammo]not Viscidus
15:17.37haste*googles*
15:17.57[Ammo]guess it's Viscidus
15:17.58hasteViscidus - Level 1 (Elite) Not Specified
15:17.58[Ammo]meh
15:20.14CIA-1703ammo * r1903 10BigWigs/ (AQ40/Cthun.lua AQ40/Viscidus.lua BigWigs.toc): BigWigs: Added Cthun and Viscidus. Thanks Haste. Let the Tentacle Rape Party commence!
15:20.23hasteoO blue text
15:21.31[Ammo]oh did you see I updated oRA_Assist
15:21.45hasteyeh ;)
15:21.45[Ammo]I saw your conversation with codayus, and decided to give him a running start :)
15:21.54hastehehe
15:21.59Slayman`LMAAis it just me or is FileFront kinda slow today?
15:22.06[Ammo]it's always slow
15:22.31Slayman`LMAAnot that kind of slow more the kind of not responding
15:24.20Slaymani Love Australia !
15:24.30Slayman-> www.wickedweasel.com <-
15:28.05[Ammo]it's got a topless section!
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15:35.59hastehttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=8359814&tmp=1#post8359814
15:36.02haste^^
15:36.59kloppehaha
15:37.02Lucenrofl
15:37.03Lucenawesome
15:37.10[Ammo]wowa
15:37.11[Ammo]pwned
15:38.46[Ammo]that's almost like the message I posted in my guild forums last night :p
15:38.59[Ammo]someone called me corrupt
15:47.49[Ammo]but Tseric has  abetter way with words
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15:52.28NeronixAfternoon
15:54.07hastehello
15:54.25NeronixExams all done :D
15:57.55CodayusWow
15:58.01CodayusTseric snapped!
15:58.03CodayusWicked!
15:58.46Amadeo-Alright, so who's gonna Ace TipBuddy? :)
15:59.04[Wobin]still tesintg, haste =)
15:59.10haste[Wobin]: hokai!
15:59.22haste[Wobin]: let me know when so I can strip my local version apart :p
15:59.58[Wobin]hehe
16:00.03[Ammo]Amadeo-: InformaTips
16:00.06[Ammo]is almost good enough
16:00.11[Ammo]just needs a bit more stuff adde
16:00.19NeronixCodayus: link please?
16:00.34Codayus<PROTECTED>
16:00.34[Ammo][17:35] < haste> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=8359814&tmp=1#post8359814
16:00.40Amadeo-[Ammo]: They get messed up when other addons add stuff to the tooltip
16:00.41NeronixThanks
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16:01.10[Ammo]Codayus: I gave you a headstart with oRA_Assist :)
16:01.14[Ammo]check out the SVN
16:01.17CodayusOoh?
16:01.19[Ammo]now go fix it further!
16:01.31CodayusHeh
16:01.35NeronixThank God. The horse has been flogged a quadrillion times >.>
16:01.39[Ammo](I changed the framestyle to the oRA_Ready style)
16:01.53CodayusAh...yeah...cool
16:02.03[Ammo]I need to make scrollable frames for oRA_Item/Dura/Resist but MEH
16:02.33CodayusOkay, so all it needs is support for setting as well as receiving targets...that'll be easy.
16:02.43[Ammo]yeah
16:02.54[Ammo]well it needs some kind of shiny interface for setting
16:02.57CodayusNow I just need to stop blowing stuff up in Auto Assault and code...  :-/
16:03.18CodayusYeah...I wonder how CTRA does it.
16:03.23CodayusI'll check that first.
16:03.30[Ammo]I checked that
16:03.37[Ammo]it's kinda easy to code all of it actually
16:03.41CodayusSeems like it might be something that should integrate with the MT frames.
16:03.43[Ammo]but I suck at GUI's
16:04.07CodayusOr...hm
16:04.33[Ammo]it's basically a simple loop that checks if your target is targetted by any of the MTs
16:04.40[Ammo]if so it colors the background differently
16:04.44hasteyou know.... svn update TAKES ages 'cause of the externals
16:04.50[Ammo]if not you can click a button to make them assist
16:04.57hasteon the whole trunk that is
16:05.21[Ammo]I suggest you don't look at the CTRA code, but think on it yourself
16:05.34[Ammo]the CTRA frame is ugly and counterintuitive
16:05.49hastethe CTRA solution for assisting made me cry
16:05.53[Ammo]that's why I made the oRA_Ready frame just 2 columns of names, gray for not responded, red for not ready, green for ready
16:06.10[Ammo]the idea is ok
16:06.16[Ammo]but their frame is the suck
16:06.16hastethe oRA_Ready solution is a damn fine one
16:06.30haste(still fetching externals)
16:06.38haste(yay, finished!)
16:07.25CIA-1703otravi * r1904 10/trunk/ (BigWigs/AQ40/Cthun.lua oRA_MainTank/oRA_MainTank.lua): BigWigs (C'Thun) - Fixed a little typo.
16:08.11hastedamn
16:08.16hasteI fucked up there ^^;
16:08.24hastefucking externals... I BLAME THEM
16:08.33[Ammo]hehe
16:09.43[Ammo]so what did you commit from oRA_MainTank :)
16:09.50hasteI wonder the same
16:10.02hastetime to do a diff
16:10.07[Ammo]yeah
16:11.49[Ammo]no diff  :p
16:11.50[Ammo]weird
16:12.08hastehmm
16:12.22[Ammo]as far as I can see
16:12.26Codayusheh
16:12.28[Ammo]probably just touched the file :)
16:12.34hasteaah!
16:12.35hasteI see why
16:12.46[Ammo]DOS returns vs Unix ones?
16:12.46hasteI cleaned it up some, changed a couple of globals to locals
16:12.52[Ammo]oh hmm
16:13.52hastesvn diff -r 1621 oRA_MainTank.lua
16:14.51[Ammo]I guess I'll start on the scrollframes for oRA_Item etc by building tables with the data in them
16:15.11[Ammo]instead of just outputting them to the chatframe as I receive them
16:15.14hastewonder why I havaen't comitted it before :o
16:15.26[Ammo]no idea
16:15.37hastemost have gotten distracted when I did it
16:15.38[Ammo]but tonight 5 more episodes of Lost
16:16.20Temhaste: Zone, Dur, Resist frames need existance and/or prettyfying
16:16.55[Ammo]Tem: we're well aware of that :p
16:16.58hasteMay 10 20:13 oRA_MainTank.lua << quite a while since I did it also
16:17.09Temwell
16:17.10hasteTem: I haven't added those to my Todo list actually /does
16:17.13Temget to work bitches
16:17.26Temlol
16:17.26hasteactually, I'm not touching zone :p
16:17.30[Ammo]me neither
16:17.34hasteicetrain can do that himself ;)
16:17.35[Ammo]that's icetrain's thing
16:18.07hasteI have to diff Lucens branch of oRA_* also
16:18.14Temaww
16:18.17[Ammo]oh what did he do to it?
16:18.23[Ammo]and why didn't he do it in the trunk? :)
16:18.32hasteI have no idea
16:18.41hastereason for my having to diff it :po
16:19.33[Ammo]ah he added storing of durability info to a table :)
16:19.50[Ammo]but meh
16:20.11[Ammo]time to get home and see if my wife fixed dinner yet :)
16:20.19hastehehe
16:20.33TemI need a name for my mt frame
16:20.37Temsuggestions?
16:20.53[Ammo]PimPT
16:21.06Temoh yeah PTs...
16:21.08[Ammo]PiMPT :)
16:21.09Temerm
16:21.11hasteI suck at naming
16:21.25Temhaste: does oRA have support for PTs?
16:21.25[Ammo]later guys :)
16:21.33[Ammo]PTs are local only Tem
16:21.38[Ammo]nothing to do with oRA
16:21.38Temoh right
16:21.40Temduh
16:21.51haste:D
16:21.52[Ammo]right back at ya :p
16:21.59[Ammo]now I'm really gone
16:22.00[Ammo]~
16:26.44[Wobin]haste: almost ready to update
16:27.01haste[Wobin]: yay
16:29.39CIA-1703wobin * r1905 10GonffBar/ (GonffBar.lua GonffBar.toc GonffBarLocals.lua): GonffBar - Changed a whole lot of logic to make it actually work as intended in terms of actual energy gain and 'idle' ticking when not actively using energy
16:29.56hasteyay
16:30.02hastetime to tear it appart again!
16:30.27kergoth`zzzThiana: if nobody else answered it, you can perform bitops via bitlib.  not part of lua proper, but afaik it does exist in wow.
16:31.03haste[Wobin]: mind if I create a mini-version for my unit frame?
16:31.11haste[Wobin]: if you saw the screen I posted earlier ;)
16:31.15[Wobin]Sure
16:31.43Amadeo-haste: Yes, I think you should do *anything* to gain interest in finishing your frames up :)
16:32.06hasteAmadeo-: http://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/haste/342102/ << *pokes*
16:32.17hasteIt's pretty much dominating the list
16:32.33kergothyay rememberthemilk
16:32.46haste<3 that site
16:32.56kergoththat and 30boxes make me happy
16:32.57Amadeo-haste: You use the strangest URLs
16:33.20hasteAndalia: I do?
16:33.22kergothi take it you've not used rememberthemilk.
16:33.27kergothyou should fix that
16:34.02hasteAmadeo-: waah, that one was directed towards you!
16:34.05kergothnetvibes.com needs a rememberthemilk plugin though
16:34.28Amadeo-kergoth: I don't know how to code, only annoy coders
16:35.06Amadeo-haste: can I put overdue on all the oUF ones?
16:35.07haste[Wobin]: enabling the border spits out an error :p
16:35.14hasteAmadeo-: no...
16:35.18Amadeo-:)
16:35.24Amadeo-ok fine
16:35.25Amadeo-hahah
16:35.31hastewait, you don't have access to that!
16:35.32hastehah!
16:35.35Amadeo-aww
16:36.24kergothhehe, i always like the rememberthemilk message when a list is empty
16:36.26kergoth"You have no incomplete tasks in this list. Woohoo!"
16:40.20haste[Wobin]: always show option is borked :p
16:41.10[Wobin]works for me
16:41.19[Wobin]what's broken about it?
16:42.28haste[Wobin]: my fault, didn't know it hided itself after a while with full :)
16:42.41[Wobin]Which it shouldn't =)
16:44.42haste[Wobin]: http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_051706_184047.png << look at the player frame ;)
16:51.09kergothhttp://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/kergoth/401473/#section.tasks .. getting there
16:51.25hastehehe
16:51.50kergothonly thing i wish they had for it.. instead of lists, make it support tags.
16:51.57haste[Wobin]: I see the energybar on my shaman *shakesfist*
16:51.59kergothso you can tag one task with multiple areas
16:52.37[Wobin]haste: In time, in time =) Still trying to figure out the border error =)
16:53.17kergothsomeone needs to pick up tipster and fix some of its issues
16:54.20hastethat might be
16:54.32TainI thought about it, but found TTW_Tooltip Tooltip Wrangler and just used that instead.
16:54.57Amadeo-hey Wobin
16:55.00kergothhavent tried that one.  i'm using gymnast, and i feel dirty
16:55.03kergothhmm
16:55.15Amadeo-[Wobin]: the GonffBar is showing up on my Warlock whenever I cast a spell
16:55.48[Wobin]yeah, I haven't addded in any class ignoring yet =)
16:55.57hasteit's like.. one line :D
16:56.27Amadeo-hehe
16:56.38TainI almost tried Gymnast, but I think when it looked it had a Chronos dependancy and I wasn't about to install that just for Gymnast.
16:57.09kergothi loaded the empty chronos dir that just satisfies the dep so timex can do the work
16:57.22[Wobin]haste: it's in now, just not commited =P
16:57.32haste^^;
16:57.36TainAh right. Well since I'm not using Timex for anything I guess I didn't think of that either. :)
16:57.40kergothhehe
17:04.08[Wobin]finallyt =P
17:04.11[Wobin]border fixed =P
17:04.39hasteyay
17:06.21CIA-1703wobin * r1906 10GonffBar/ (GonffBar.lua GonffBarLocals.lua):
17:06.21CIA-17GonffBar - Border toggle fixed.
17:06.21CIA-17Should work only for rogues and druids, cuz they're speshul.
17:09.21CIA-1703wobin * r1907 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - keywords added
17:11.05[Wobin]why's that?
17:11.31hasteYou won't get the correct version in the .toc
17:11.46hasteyou'll get the revision the file was last edited
17:11.52kergothunless you actually modify it every time you make a change to the tree. hehe
17:12.01[Wobin]True
17:12.12[Wobin]I don't mind that too much for single file addons
17:13.10haste[Wobin]: problem! the bar will not be created on other classes, but the variables will attempt to load
17:14.02hastekergoth: and that again is a little "against" the use of the SVN :p
17:14.32[Wobin]Well, there was only a few variables it will load, but I moved them into after the check now
17:14.58hasteyeh, since it will attempt to move the frame
17:15.05hastewhich doesn't exist
17:15.43[Wobin]oh blah =(
17:17.15[Wobin]heh
17:17.22[Wobin]As the night progresses my coding get sloppier =P
17:17.22CIA-1703wobin * r1908 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - added more checking for class
17:18.00kergothhaste: yeah, means you can't trust the history since it isn't all actual changes.
17:18.51hastekergoth: and it creates a diff and such for the incorrect change
17:19.05[Wobin]bbiab
17:19.05kergothhm?
17:19.13[Wobin]shower time
17:19.37kergoththats what history -is-, a mostly linear stream of deltas
17:19.47hastehehe
17:19.56TainTell that to Abraham Lincoln and Benjamin Franklin!
17:20.25Industrialdoodeedoo
17:20.28Industrialon my new pc
17:20.31Industrial:p
17:20.45kergothhttp://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/kergoth/401473/#section.tasks yay, i have stuff to do
17:21.11*** join/#wowace [MoonWolf] (n=moonwolf@f176182.upc-f.chello.nl)
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17:22.22Industrialhaste: kinky
17:22.39hastehaha
17:24.14[MoonWolf]the gay
17:25.35Industrialhttp://pastebin.com/722969
17:25.49Industrialinstalling wow
17:25.52Industrial(and vim ^^)
17:26.01[MoonWolf]again ?
17:26.10Industrial? :p
17:26.16[MoonWolf]installing wow again....
17:26.23[MoonWolf]why not transfer the install over
17:26.25[MoonWolf]works fine.
17:26.29Industrialnah
17:26.44Industrialcd -> hd is faster
17:26.46Industrial:p
17:27.08[MoonWolf]last time hd -> hd and not installing updates was faster.
17:27.18[MoonWolf]to me anyway
17:27.34hastecd -> hd -> updater = days
17:27.53[MoonWolf]more like a single day
17:27.55[MoonWolf]but still
17:29.22hastedamn, I just remembered something that isn't on my todo list :(
17:30.06kergothhaste: hate it when that happens ;)
17:30.29hasteyeh, it messes up the system, and my work cycle :p
17:30.49kergothyou have a system?
17:30.53[MoonWolf]yust bang you head till you forget again.
17:30.55kergothi just do whatever i feel like doing :)
17:31.13[MoonWolf]my system, dont want to do that, or that , or that, that looks good.
17:32.31hasteI basicly work through my priority list, with a time limit :p
17:32.54kergothi definately prioritize, but a time limit on personal code?
17:32.58kergothcome to think of it, i probably need that
17:33.05[MoonWolf]lol
17:33.06kergothi dont get jack done without a deadline
17:33.09kergothwork best under pressure
17:33.26NeronixOO model done by 13:00 am
17:33.32[MoonWolf]conference with kealten, tem and cladhaire, done in 2 hours.
17:33.34[MoonWolf]gogogo
17:33.35hasteexactly :p
17:33.37Neronixfalse deadline = you're free :P
17:34.06hasteI can't work if I don't give myself a time limit
17:34.13hasteit's like a goal I have to work towards ;)
17:34.32NeronixI should probably try that...
17:34.51Neronixget new Lexan and NanoStats out within the next 80 mins :P
17:34.58[MoonWolf]deadlines i set myself or know that i dont have to keep without getting into trouble dont work for me.
17:35.25kergothNeronix: speaking of which, how's nanostats coming? havent had time to try the fubar plugin from svn yet :)
17:35.36[MoonWolf]its released.
17:35.41kergothhaste: hmm... problem with that is all the unforeseen stuff that comes up
17:35.43NeronixFuBar plugin is currently a carbon copy of NS itself
17:35.43kergothis it? nice
17:35.49kergothah, hehe
17:35.52Neronixmy local copy's almost done
17:37.10[MoonWolf]hey
17:37.13[MoonWolf]netvibes is cool
17:37.19kergothvery, i love it
17:38.08[MoonWolf]is that ajex based ?
17:38.16[MoonWolf]ajax
17:38.31kergothyeah
17:39.03kergoth"Great people talk about ideas, average people talk about things, and small people talk about wine."
17:39.28kergothhaha, "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." --Groucho Marx
17:40.27Neronix"Think about how dumb the average person is. Then realise that half the world is dumber than that" --Can't Remember Who :P
17:40.35Neronix3.25 billion people... /cower
17:41.59kergoth... http://craphound.com/images/indianmcdsbabyad.jpg .. thats one creepy mcdonalds ad over in india
17:45.58Industrial[MoonWolf]: cd -> hd is like 30 mins.
17:46.05Industrialdownload the latest update while doing that
17:46.07Industrialinstall done
17:46.09Industrial:s
17:46.15[MoonWolf]hd -> hd cant be more then 10
17:47.10[Wobin]Great =P You wander away from the computer, and come back to find you've idled out and you're at the character choice screen with a ghost standing there =P
17:48.23[MoonWolf]I love having a miletary base close by
17:48.32[MoonWolf]it means i can get weather reports real accurate.
17:48.37[MoonWolf]5 km away :P
17:52.02kergothnice
17:52.10kergothi never noticed that the rememberthemilk overview page
17:52.13kergothhas a tag cloud
17:52.18NeronixHow can I check if a key exists in a table that may or may not exist?
17:52.30kergothif t ~= nil and t[k] ~= nil then
17:52.44Neronixdoing if ( IMightNotExist.ConfigOptionFoo ) spanks me with errorness
17:52.47Ratbert_CPif t and t[k]
17:52.57Neronixah, thanks
17:53.37Ratbert_CPor even: foo = t and t[k] or "None"
17:53.52NeronixAh, it only checks the next condition only if the first is true when using and?
17:54.07[MoonWolf]that would be the point of a logical and
17:54.09Ratbert_CPCorrect.  And always remember "Naked At Orgies"
17:54.33[MoonWolf])_o
17:54.37Neronix?
17:54.46[MoonWolf]O_o*
17:54.47Ratbert_CPi.e., Logically the order of operations is Not, And, Or
17:54.57NeronixI see, thanks
17:55.08[MoonWolf]aha
17:55.09Ratbert_CPSo the example I gave is the same as foo = (t and t[k]) or "none"
17:56.09Ratbert_CPfoo = not t and "none" or not t[k] and "None" -->> foo = ((not t) and "none") or ((not t[k]) and "None")
17:56.50Ratbert_CPThe full mnemnotic(sp?) is "Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally from running Naked At Orgies"
17:57.09[MoonWolf]you have yust figured out a concept some progrommars have problems learning on their own.
17:57.23Ratbert_CPParenthesis, Exponentiation, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction, Not, And, Or
17:57.28[MoonWolf]at neronix.
17:57.48NeronixI see
17:57.57Ratbert_CPNeronix: Only for languages that properly support loical short-circuiting.
17:58.02[MoonWolf]true
17:58.06Ratbert_CPs/loical/logical/
17:58.21[Wobin]~spell Mnemonic
17:58.44[Wobin]kergoth: Where if the first logical operation is true, it doesn't try the next one
17:58.53[MoonWolf]wait a second, kergoth is supposed to be the best programmers of the currently active people.
17:58.56Ratbert_CPIt only evaluates the second value if needed by the logical construct.
17:58.59[Wobin]So it 'short circuits' the equatoin
17:59.08kergoth[MoonWolf]: remember, i have no formal training.
17:59.09Ratbert_CPi.e., A or B only evaluates B if A is false
17:59.17kergotheverything i know i learned in the field, so some of this stuff i missed
17:59.21Ratbert_CPA and B only evaluates B if A is true
17:59.51Ratbert_CPSo, you can do things like:
18:00.18Ratbert_CP_ = OptionXOn and ExpensiveFunction()
18:00.28[Wobin]kerg, do you understand pointers?
18:00.37Ratbert_CPIf the option is "off", then the the ExpensiveFunction never runs
18:01.02kergoth[Wobin]: i have about 6 years of linux kernel and driver developmetn experience, as well as bootloader and diagnostics code at the bare metal
18:01.06kergoth[Wobin]: what do you think?
18:01.14[MoonWolf]hehe
18:01.16[Wobin]Well then you're home free =P
18:01.25Ratbert_CPLua requires an assignment or if statement to perform logical evaluations...
18:01.34[MoonWolf]every damn c programmer should understand pointers
18:01.42[MoonWolf]your not one if you don't
18:01.44kergothRatbert_CP: ?
18:01.44Ratbert_CPThen you know the joyous evils of pointer arethmetic!
18:02.07Neronix~wikipedia pointer
18:02.12kergoththat isnt correct.  lua does evaluation at other points, like when it evaluates the generic for statemetn
18:02.41kergothfor k,v in this or that,t,nil do is valid as far as i know
18:02.43Ratbert_CPkergoth: You can't simply have 'Opt and Function()', it needs to be an assignment '_ = Opt and Function()' or a logical control 'while Opt and Function()'
18:03.08Ratbert_CPI've had lots of issues trying to do simply 'Opt and Function()'
18:03.22Ratbert_CPI've always found it needs an assignment.
18:03.37[MoonWolf]ah being able to do opt and/or function would be fun.
18:03.54kergoththat isnt surprising, but please dont say it requires an assignment or if, evaluation occurs at flow control structures as well as those
18:03.57kergothheh
18:04.01[MoonWolf]and hell on earth if some coder find out about it.
18:04.07NeronixSo a pointer is the same as say, ACopyOfSomething = Something in lua?
18:04.19[MoonWolf]in a way yes
18:04.37NeronixI see
18:04.38Ratbert_CPRight.  If is the classic flow control, but it also works in while or until (among others)
18:04.49[Wobin]tables use pointers in Lua
18:05.08[Wobin]so really. since everything is a table, everything is mostly a pointer =)
18:05.18[Wobin](with a few exceptions)
18:05.21hasteI'm starting to get tired of the bug familiy error in BigWigs :p
18:05.42kergothjust think of it this way.  in lua, there's no such thing as a variable.
18:05.46kergoththe value is key
18:05.56[Wobin]Oh, and technically, the logical assignment occurs at a flow control structure
18:05.57kergothlocals are slots in teh closure, globals are elements of the global environment table
18:06.25[Wobin]since you're actually assigning to a local before extracting the information from it
18:06.33kergothwoot, rememberthemilk has ical bits setup now, so you can add your tasks to your google calandar :)
18:06.59NeronixI see
18:07.00kergoth[Wobin]: what do you mean by that?
18:07.18[Wobin]for i,v in womble or frog
18:07.40[Wobin]which is like the example you offered, yeah?
18:08.00kergothwhat about it?
18:08.10[Wobin]well that's an assignation
18:08.21kergothnot in the way you're thinking
18:08.42Ratbert_CP[Wobin]: Right.  You just can't have a bare line with 'Opt and Func()' (or at least, I seem to have problems with it)
18:09.08[Wobin]Ratbert_CP: I've not found a way yet =)
18:09.24kergothwoble and frog are functions, which when called with the invariant state and the control variable return the next control variable.  neither of those are directly assigned into a local.
18:09.34Ratbert_CPThe best I can think of is '_ = Opt and Func()'
18:09.47[Wobin]Which doesn't really save much
18:10.08Ratbert_CPOnly in readability (depending on how your mind works)
18:10.37[Wobin]I'd like the _ to actually discard the value
18:11.05Tain_ is just an arbitrary var though, no different than anything else.
18:11.12kergothwhy? if you want the reference removed sooner, stuff it into a do end block
18:11.21kergothadding that fancy crap to lua is against its principles
18:11.41kergothdo _ = Opt and Func() end
18:11.43kergothheh
18:11.51kergoths/do /do local/
18:12.21Ratbert_CPHmmm...
18:13.18Ratbert_CPresult = setmetatable({}, {__newindex = function(t,k) return k end} ) result[f] = Opt and Func()
18:13.30Ratbert_CP:)
18:13.42kergothif you dont mind the additional overhead, sure
18:14.07Ratbert_CPoverhead, shmoverhead.  Let's get nifty... ;)
18:14.24Ratbert_CPBe careful, or I'll figure a way to get loadstring in there, too...
18:14.44[MoonWolf]lol
18:15.03[MoonWolf]you need to get unpack and ... in there too
18:15.10Ratbert_CPheh...
18:16.19kergothman i love seeing my rememberthemilk task deadlines on my google calandar.  /me hugs them both
18:16.38[MoonWolf]through netvibes ?
18:17.05kergothnope, you can directly add ical/webcal urls to google calandar
18:17.11kergothit adds those events to it
18:17.25[MoonWolf]cant you view google calender through netvibes ?
18:17.57kergothyeah
18:18.30[MoonWolf]i should have done this ages ago.
18:18.33[MoonWolf]fuck bittorrent.
18:19.48Amadeo-ok
18:19.53Amadeo-so what happened while i was afk? :P
18:20.06[MoonWolf]nothing much
18:20.18Ratbert_CPHmmm...  Can you use the dynamic UI API with XML-based UI elements?  i.e., I have a large, empty frame in a static XML frame, can I use the dynamic UI API to add elements to it?
18:20.18Amadeo-I bet...
18:20.28[MoonWolf]we discussed ternaries, touched on the lua var system  AGAIN.
18:20.31[MoonWolf]thats about it.
18:20.53[MoonWolf]hey sun is supporting ubuntu
18:20.54[MoonWolf]great.
18:20.59Amadeo-haste finished oUF, Wobin finished Gonffbar, Industrial finished all the idChat stuff..
18:21.06Amadeo-right? :D
18:21.12[Wobin]yep
18:21.16[Wobin]well not totally complete
18:21.19Amadeo-haha
18:21.19[MoonWolf]oh yeah, that too.
18:21.25Amadeo-really Wobin? nice
18:21.40[MoonWolf]and i made xraid v2......
18:21.42[Wobin]I still want to add an option to flip the bar to vertical
18:22.07[Wobin]purl emulate [Moonwolf] is and i made xraid v2......
18:22.09purl[Wobin]: okay
18:22.16hasteAmadeo-: what's wrong with idChat?
18:22.17[MoonWolf]damnit!!
18:22.20[Wobin]heheh
18:22.25hasteAmadeo-: what's wrong with GnoffBar ;) ?
18:22.30Amadeo-haste: Nothing, I just want some features :)
18:22.35haste;S
18:22.35Amadeo-haste: Nothing, I just want some features :)
18:22.37Amadeo-answer to both
18:22.38Amadeo-hahaha
18:22.41hasteidChat is complete in my eyes !
18:22.49Amadeo-You don't want URL copy feature?
18:22.53[MoonWolf]no
18:22.55hasteno
18:22.57Neronixno
18:22.58Amadeo-wow, why!
18:23.06NeronixThere's other mods for that
18:23.11hastestand alones ftw
18:23.13[MoonWolf]do one thing and do it well.
18:23.23Neronix[MoonWolf], you beat me to it ;_;
18:23.31Ratbert_CPI'll assume that either the answer is no, or nobody knows.  Otherwise I'm left with noody likes me... ;)
18:23.44Amadeo-but don't you think it would be smaller if it were a part of idChat rather than installing 10 addons for different things?
18:24.04Ratbert_CPWhat if I don't want it?  Then it's bigger...
18:24.05[MoonWolf]but i dont want to use it at ALL
18:24.08Neronixnot really, and it's just reinventing the wheel
18:24.09hasteI think Warmup proves that it isn't
18:24.18hasteseveral small addons = win
18:24.27kergothindeed
18:24.32hastethen ten addons that does the 30 same things
18:24.35Amadeo-what URL copy addon do ya use?
18:24.39Amadeo-I didn't even know there was one
18:24.41[MoonWolf]none!
18:24.43Amadeo-I just used the one in ChatBox
18:24.44hastenone actually :p
18:24.47Amadeo-rofl
18:25.03Amadeo-punks
18:25.16[MoonWolf]I take offence to that.
18:25.20[MoonWolf]im metal not punk!
18:25.30[MoonWolf]punks can go sit in a corner with the emo's.
18:25.31Amadeo-Yeah? I need some good metal, that isn't too heavy
18:25.34Amadeo-recommend!
18:26.03[MoonWolf]name a few band you like.
18:26.05hasteMachinae Supremacy
18:26.09Amadeo-I don't even know :(
18:26.11Ratbert_CPBig hair metal?  Speed metal?  Death metal?  Classic metal?
18:26.13Amadeo-Someone sent me um...
18:26.20Amadeo-Nevermore once, and I thought they were pretty good
18:26.22[MoonWolf]my playlist ?
18:26.27hastehttp://machinaesupremacy.com/discography.html *dances*
18:26.38[MoonWolf]new album is pure love.
18:26.38Amadeo-I honestly don't know any new music anymore
18:26.52NeronixI could do with more not-too-heavy metal myself :P
18:26.54CodayusSince we're talking about music...
18:27.01Codayushttp://pandora.com/
18:27.20Neronixpandora doesn't really work the way I want it to
18:27.36[MoonWolf]you might like evergrey
18:27.37hasteit's a new idea tho'
18:27.50NeronixI'm usually trying to find music of a similar genre
18:27.50Amadeo-:D
18:27.59Amadeo-I like guitar a lot, and um...
18:28.07[MoonWolf]consider me a last.fm or a pandora, only faster.
18:28.08Neronixand pandora matches music with similar elements
18:28.09Amadeo-A good voice, not too much screaming, though a little is ok
18:28.14kergothneat, someone did a last.fm mini api module for netvibes, to show your recent tracks :D
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18:28.28NeronixI'll see what I can give you, Amadeo-
18:28.32Amadeo-awesome :)
18:28.37kergothi listen to absolutely everything, but my fileserver iwth my 35k songs or so is down, and in minnesota ;(
18:28.39Amadeo-Match me up some PvP video music, hahaha
18:28.40kergothhttp://www.last.fm/user/kergoth
18:28.42[MoonWolf]female or male fronted, or no matter ?
18:28.43Wobin_Ratbert_CP: I'm fairly sure you can
18:28.45Wobin_Ratbert_CP: In that I can't see anything stopping you from doing it
18:28.54kergothhehe, my last.fm profile shows that i've played 15,584 tracks
18:28.55Amadeo-[MoonWolf]: No matter
18:28.57Wobin_(if you missed that from my disconneciton =P)
18:29.29[MoonWolf]kergoth, i want ftp access to that box for a day or two.
18:29.43[MoonWolf]and a new sata disk.
18:30.01Neronixhttp://www.last.fm/user/Neronix/ - 13756
18:30.31NeronixAmadeo-, if you want something cool and different, try Apocalyptica
18:30.42hastehttp://www.last.fm/user/haste/ << not updated in ages :p
18:30.49Neronixno guitars, only cellos. Sounds much better than the idea
18:31.11Amadeo-Wobin_: When I type /gb bar width I'm getting: GonffBar.lua:300: attempt to concatenate a nil value
18:31.23Wobin_hum
18:31.57Amadeo-brb sec
18:32.32kergoth[MoonWolf]: i'll give you an account once it's back up.  just need to throttle the transfers so as not to piss off the cable company. hehe
18:32.44[MoonWolf]cool thank
18:33.27[MoonWolf]i should be getting a new high storage hd at the end of my internship
18:33.37[MoonWolf]its not paid, but my boss is a cool fellow
18:33.46[MoonWolf]i can pick a gift if i did a good job.
18:34.09Amadeo-ok
18:34.25Amadeo-Wobin_: Same with height, on 321
18:34.40Wobin_I'm setting up some defaults to store
18:35.01Amadeo-ok :)
18:35.07Amadeo-I notice when I use some energy now
18:35.14Amadeo-there's like a little bar along t he bottom, what's that do/mean?
18:35.44[MoonWolf]Amadeo-, Lacuna coil, Autumn, Luca Turilli, Running Wild, Sonata Artica, Therion, edguy.
18:35.46Wobin_That's combo points
18:35.57Amadeo-ohhhh!
18:36.00Amadeo-nice
18:36.01kergothmmm lacuna coil
18:36.07Wobin_energy from right to left, combo points from bottom to top
18:36.08[MoonWolf]All of that touches on different aspects of metal but should be related toyour discribed style.
18:36.20[MoonWolf]or i hope it does.
18:36.24Amadeo-[MoonWolf]: Awesome, I'll definately check em out :)
18:36.39Amadeo-Which first? :) I have to get my modem humming
18:36.58[MoonWolf]eeeuh
18:38.06NeronixSigur Ros is legendary. They're as non-metal as you can get, but you'll probably still like them :P
18:38.10[MoonWolf]try therion first.
18:38.22NeronixAnd [MoonWolf] read my mind, again :P
18:38.47Amadeo-hah
18:39.04Amadeo-which one is Sigur Ros? Lacuna Coil?
18:39.17[MoonWolf]sigor ros is another band.
18:39.32kergoththerion, i havent heard them in too long
18:39.42kergothhave the music video for The Rise of Sodom and Gomorrah on hyperion (my poor server)
18:40.15[MoonWolf]i only have randomly aquired songs by them
18:40.20[MoonWolf]like those a lot.
18:40.23[MoonWolf]have about...
18:40.44[MoonWolf]two dozen or so.
18:40.49Amadeo-oh, I thought it was a singer or something :)
18:41.08[MoonWolf]http://sigur-ros.co.uk/media/index.php
18:41.10NeronixThere's a torrent with like 10 albums out there
18:41.23NeronixTherion I mean
18:41.28[MoonWolf]evertyhing is OUT there.
18:43.28[MoonWolf]you might want to add hammerfall to that list too.
18:43.43Amadeo-Hey, that's almost a Horde town
18:46.42[MoonWolf]why would you need that ?
18:47.07hasteit looks nicer :p
18:47.44Ratbert_CPYngwie!
18:50.28hasteupdating externals :(
18:51.04NeronixYass! it works!
18:51.12Neronixbut I won't make my deadline :<
18:51.22hastekek
18:53.01hasteyay, finished!
18:53.05CIA-1703otravi * r1909 10BigWigs/AQ20/Guardians.lua:
18:53.05CIA-17BigWigs (Guardians)
18:53.05CIA-17- Set zonename to AQ20, instead of AQ40.
18:53.05CIA-17- Fixed the reporting of plague (thanks to dafire).
18:53.18Amadeo-What's AQ like?
18:53.21Amadeo-I haven't been
18:54.13NeronixTentacles.
18:54.26NeronixAnd, EYE LASERS PEW PEW
18:54.29[MoonWolf]Rape tentacles!
18:54.37NeronixThat's what I was implying :P
18:55.29hasteAQ is more like... bugs
18:55.50hastenp: Machinae Supremacy - I Know the Reaper [4:36]
18:56.03[MoonWolf]I have weird songs.
18:56.22hasteI have wierder!
18:56.23Industrialjoy division!
18:56.24Industrial:d
18:56.30[MoonWolf]oh god.
18:56.46[MoonWolf]but this has the pokemon rap
18:56.51kergothyay joy division
18:56.51[MoonWolf]you cant go wrong there!
18:56.54hasteI'm starting to get tired of the: OMG oRA_MainTankFrames doesn't work!
18:56.59Industrialkergoth: ^^
18:57.01hasteomg oRA_Zone has an error :(
18:59.25kergothi think my netvibes page is possessed
18:59.27NeronixIt's not weird
19:00.16NeronixUnless you call lat 70s post punk weird :P
19:00.21Neronixs/lat/late
19:00.29Neronix... trailing /...
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19:03.41kergothhttp://kergoth.com/netvibes_is_spiffy_2.png
19:03.56[MoonWolf]hey
19:04.02[MoonWolf]hmm
19:04.05[MoonWolf]nice background
19:04.27kergothjesus, look at the weather here
19:04.27kergothhehe
19:04.28[MoonWolf]how do you do that ?
19:04.39[MoonWolf]wtb, your weather.
19:04.49Amadeo-kergoth: What font is that in irssi?
19:04.50Amadeo-nice and clean
19:04.57kergothits a mini api module, you can add extra stuff to netvibes with them
19:05.03kergothAmadeo-: bitstream vera sans mono
19:05.08Amadeo-I like it a lot
19:05.10[MoonWolf]link ?
19:05.12Amadeo-I need it
19:05.18kergoth[MoonWolf]: http://twisterss.free.fr/netvibes/module.php?id_mod=21 is the weather one. others are on that site
19:05.24kergothAmadeo-: gnome.org/fonts/ :P
19:05.31Amadeo-:)
19:05.44[MoonWolf]Amadeo-, http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ttf-bitstream-vera/1.10/
19:05.58hasteI don't understand how people can have different space between the nicks :o
19:06.19Amadeo-thanks guys :)
19:06.23kergothsaves screen real estate
19:06.28IndustrialAnyone know of a program in windows that lets you remap keys easily?
19:06.48[MoonWolf]no, but blackbox does a good job at it too.
19:07.08Industriali want to remap ctrl and caps
19:07.28Industriali never use caps EVER actually.. leaves me with an extra key..
19:07.52hastehttp://www.fuxsake.net/images/nix/screenshot.png << ftw
19:08.03Amadeo-whoa
19:08.04Amadeo-that's awful!
19:08.05Amadeo-hahah
19:08.07Wobin_Industrial: using what os?
19:08.10haste:---(
19:08.22kergothugh, i hate terminals with backgrounds. screws with the readability
19:08.33kergothother than that, not too bad. that nick column is wider than it needs to be though
19:08.45kergothoddly enough, irssi is one of the only apps i havent heavily, heavily tweaked to my liking
19:09.05hasteI like the nick column like this ;o
19:09.15hastebut I originaly made it to be used on QuakeNET
19:09.19IndustrialWobin_: xp
19:09.34Industrialhaste: its the feckling queue again! >:( 400
19:10.11hasteIndustrial: :-(
19:10.14Wobin_AutoHotKey
19:10.21hasteIndustrial: hopefuly Thundergot get's it fixed soon
19:10.26kergoth[MoonWolf]: the customize netvibes module from that stie i linked you is awesome. thats how you set the background, adjust box transparency, remove the top and bottom nav bars, etc
19:10.35[MoonWolf]found it
19:10.38kergoth:)
19:10.39[MoonWolf]does it take local pics ?
19:10.48kergothhmm, not sure, i dont think so though, looks like it was a url
19:10.51kergoths/was/wants/
19:10.51[MoonWolf]in a file// url ?
19:10.56kergothwortha shot :)
19:10.59kergothlet me know how it goes
19:11.17kergothwould think it would work as long as its a valid absolute url
19:13.00[MoonWolf]nope
19:13.06kergothaw
19:14.11hastehttp://ftw.generation.no/img/wtf2.jpg << omg :<
19:15.02Amadeo-I told you not to show anyone that pic of me!
19:15.11haste:----O
19:16.37Amadeo-kergoth has secretly been Ace'ing TipBuddy behind our backs
19:16.57Amadeo-or at least, I like to think so
19:17.34[MoonWolf]http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4550/scren1234ak.jpg
19:17.34Neronix(
19:17.57[MoonWolf]dont mind the colouring on the left side
19:18.17[MoonWolf]the monitor is kinda sucky and is a lot brighter when you actually see it.
19:18.19Amadeo-I was looking at the coloring on the right side
19:18.44kergothhehe, http://kergoth.com/wowcolorbits.png forgot i took a screenshot of it
19:20.11[MoonWolf]blackbox ftw.
19:20.12kergothindeed
19:20.29[MoonWolf]the big black box is caused because of resolution differences in my monitors btw.
19:20.33NeronixWhat's good about BB?
19:20.42[MoonWolf]its small and out of your way.
19:20.44hastefluxbox ftw !
19:21.09NeronixI see
19:21.17NeronixI'll give it a try sometime
19:21.33kergothfluxbox is great, i used that for many years before switching to ion
19:21.46kergothi like its tabs
19:22.12[MoonWolf]i use xfce on linux
19:22.19[MoonWolf]should try xubuntu some time.
19:22.47kergothxfce is nice, perty but still lighter than gnome/metacity
19:23.23[MoonWolf]i used lightstep on windows a long time
19:23.33[MoonWolf]but its simply not getting any more development.
19:23.37hasteion? *googles*
19:23.42NeronixAnyone know how the kde4 windows port works? Is it an explorer replacement?
19:23.52[MoonWolf]what, kde windows port ?
19:24.24NeronixThe Windows port of QT4's released under the GPL so they can port KDE to it now
19:24.26Neronixso they say
19:24.42[MoonWolf]bullets*
19:25.15Amadeo-there's a KDE for Windows? how's that work? haha
19:25.27[MoonWolf]even if its works fine i still hate it.
19:26.34Amadeo-hehe
19:30.12CIA-1703neronix * r1910 10Lexan/ (Changelog.txt Lexan.lua Lexan.toc Readme.txt):
19:30.12CIA-17Lexan
19:30.12CIA-17- You can toggle whether pressing Esc will close the AH window by typing /lexan esc
19:30.12CIA-17- Will not conflict with Atlas' "Replace World Map" feature
19:30.21Neronix36 minutes late >.>
19:31.48[MoonWolf]http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/3226/scren1236su.jpg
19:31.50[MoonWolf]changed it a bit
19:32.13CIA-1703neronix * r1911 10Lexan/ (Lexan.lua Lexan.toc): Lexan - Fixed metadata
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19:35.08Industrialhaste: yea :((
19:38.54kergothhaste: ion3 -> http://kergoth.com/work-dev-env01_ion3-xft.png
19:39.15hastehmm
19:39.43kergothhaste: fast, efficient, supreme keyboard navigation. supports either tiled or normal floating window workspaces
19:39.50kergothmost of the time i use a number of tiled desktops with terminals for coding
19:40.00kergoththen i have one workspace thats floating for web browsing and gaim
19:40.40haste*adds to the TODO list*
19:40.42kergothits not for everyone, but for a minimalist / console junkie its wonderful
19:40.55kergothalso, it supports lua scripting for configuration
19:41.05kergothi can pop up a lua prompt with a key combination and give the wm commands
19:41.12haste*ups the priority*
19:41.16kergothwindowskey+F3 -> ioncore.restart()
19:41.26kergothor whatever
19:42.48hastehehe, on the FAQ.. the short answer is longer then the long *grin*
19:43.28Slaymanyippie today is a day of wisdom !
19:44.04kergothhaste: hehe. did you read the ion guy's rants? he goes on and on about not wanting all the fluff the other wms and gnome/kde add
19:44.10kergothIndustrial: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1545
19:44.26kergothIndustrial: visual select some text, hit \(, now that text has parenthesis around it
19:45.45Industrialhaste: wmii.de
19:45.46Industrial:P
19:45.58kergothhehe. i need to try that one of these days. keep forgetting
19:46.03kergothi know, i'll add it to rememberthemilk
19:46.17Industrial^^
19:46.20hasteI've added ion3 to rememberthemilk ;)
19:46.55kergothhehe
19:50.54NeronixYou didn't before? O.o
19:51.13Slaymannope i didn't
19:52.27Slaymanthis o rly  owl really gets me i can't stop laughing
19:53.23kergothi like that tshirt that questionablecontent.net has.  </3 .. the broken heart :)
19:55.44Amadeo-brb
19:57.37Slaymanhttp://www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/Landmine,_lol.JPG  ^^
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20:29.15Ratbert_CPs/33/3a/
20:29.28Industrials/a/4/
20:29.30Industrial:P
20:29.34Ratbert_CP:)
20:31.55Cairennbabies
20:32.00CairennXML = easy
20:32.53Ratbert_CPIt's not that it's difficult, it's... well... fiddly.
20:33.04Cairenntedious is a good word
20:33.28Ratbert_CPs\8t\8\
20:33.55Ratbert_CPStoopid purl...
20:34.04kergothxml is overused.
20:34.09kergothits nice for some things
20:34.32Ratbert_CPUntil someone comes up with a framework for multi-columned scrolling list boxes, I'm sticking ith XML
20:34.45kergothit is NOT a persistant datastore nor a database.  its markup, damnit.  *shakes fist at people misusing xml*
20:35.14Ratbert_CPAt worst, it's a transmission/translation format.
20:35.25Ratbert_CPWell... Technically, it *is* just markup
20:36.38Ratbert_CPAnyway...  I need to work up a frame with a listbox and a number of either edit boxes or combo boxes...
20:36.59Ratbert_CPMake that two or more listboxes...
20:37.03kergothyeah, it works well for interchange
20:37.57TainI was not happy with the xml it created.
20:38.19TainI tried it once and didn't try again.  But technically it worked.
20:38.42Ratbert_CPHmmm... With AceGUI, I can minimize the actual XML pain, and tweak it with the initializations via reloads...
20:38.55Ratbert_CPI wish AceGUI was more... up to date.  :)
20:39.11Ratbert_CPI hate having to distribute bugixes with my addon
20:44.24Ratbert_CPAre we (Kaelten, ???) waiting for 1.11 for a major AceGUI rework?
20:45.43kergothRatbert_CP: tem started work on it, but apparently cant finish until 1.11
20:45.45kergothafaik
20:46.05Temkergoth is right
20:46.22Temwe are missing some real, real important API in 1.10
20:49.13Ratbert_CPCool...  I really like the fact I can /rl with AceGUI, rather than /quit...  ;)
20:51.13Ratbert_CPOut of curiiosity, what's missing?  Don't need exaustive list, but I'm quite curious...
20:51.33[MoonWolf]tooltips are skewered for one.
21:04.17kergothargh, bram claimed he fixed the smarttab bug, but he didnt, vim7 final still suffers from it
21:04.20kergothah well
21:06.29Tain"Paul and Heather McCartney to split up. Heather reported to be hopping mad"
21:07.05*** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-59-191-241.twcny.res.rr.com)
21:07.17[MoonWolf]wow, coincidence....
21:07.27cladhairelol
21:07.32*** part/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-59-191-241.twcny.res.rr.com)
21:07.42[MoonWolf]*sigh*
21:07.44*** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-59-191-241.twcny.res.rr.com)
21:07.50Taincladhaire has evaded your attack
21:07.55cladhairelol
21:08.19cladhaire[MoonWolf]: I dont play charades very well.. how many syllables was that?
21:08.38[MoonWolf]kergoth wants feedback on his OO model.
21:08.53cladhairewell you can tell Kergoth that I want feedback on my AceLibrary model =)
21:09.07TainIt was Professor Plum in the library with the candle stick!
21:24.33Wobin_That's the biggest <3 I have about the luacode frames
21:24.40Wobin_/rl is your friend
21:26.12hasteand the luacoded frames are so DAMN easy to understand
21:26.32Wobin_It's brilliant
21:27.10Wobin_I -really- like this horizontal statusbar thing
21:27.22hasteWobin_: btw, you didn't fix the nil error did you?
21:27.49Wobin_I... think I did. I've not uploaded the latest stable version
21:27.53Wobin_Lemme do that
21:27.59Wobin_(ps which nil error?)
21:28.13haste(on /gb bar width|height )
21:29.24Wobin_oh yeah
21:29.33CIA-1703wobin * r1913 10GonffBar/ (GonffBar.lua GonffBarLocals.lua):
21:29.33CIA-17GonffBar - Dear lord, so much reformatting.
21:29.33CIA-17Added in a whole pile of defaults.
21:29.33CIA-17Removed the spark for 'vertical' statusbars, looked silly otherwise.
21:29.59hastenew version to tear apart, yay :D
21:30.32hastebtw, does colors work? someone said to me it didn't?
21:30.38hasteI haven't tested it myself tho' :p
21:30.43hastemight just be user-error
21:30.54Wobin_Works now =)
21:31.07Wobin_Four different colours for you to choose
21:31.30hasteoO, hard coded now?
21:31.51Wobin_Well.. no
21:31.56Wobin_There are defaults
21:32.00Wobin_but you can change them
21:32.10hasteah ;)
21:32.43Wobin_sorry that was unclear
21:32.52Wobin_four different bars for you to choose colours for!
21:33.35Wobin_energy, noEnergy, comboPoints, and comboPointsFull
21:35.31CIA-1703wobin * r1914 10ReverseEngineering/ (ReverseEngineering.lua ReverseEngineering.toc): ReverseEngineering- Extra sanity check on GetTradeSkillInfo
21:37.39CIA-1703wobin * r1915 10ReverseEngineering/ReverseEngineering.lua: ReverseEngineering - Elkano came up with a better way =)
21:43.52hasteWobin_: think you broke it now :p
21:44.06hastedoesn't show at all, not even after reseting the current settings either :o
21:44.12Wobin_hm
21:44.18Wobin_You may have to delete your settings =)
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21:44.34ckknighthey all
21:44.34hasteI did :o
21:44.38hastehello there
21:44.44Wobin_but actually, before you do, do you have iriel's devtools?
21:45.23hasteI have killed them off already :p
21:45.35Wobin_and still no luck?
21:45.39hasteit was the first thing I did
21:45.42Wobin_hm
21:45.45Wobin_Got Visor?
21:45.48hasteyeh
21:45.58Wobin_/vz set f=GonffBarFrame
21:46.05Wobin_/vz set c=true
21:46.16Wobin_then /gb lock
21:46.34Wobin_And that -hopefully- will save it correctly
21:46.55hasteyeh, worked ;)
21:47.44hastebut you set the PosX to 0 right?
21:48.57Wobin_probably =)
21:49.09Wobin_I'm not sure how to get the centre coords easily
21:49.50hastechange it to or nil instead
21:50.06hasteor nothing at all :p
21:50.43Wobin_hm
21:51.27Wobin_if they're nil, RestorePosiiton won't move it at all
21:51.59hasteif it's nil it will be placed on the center of the screen
21:52.08hasteby the CheckVariables() function
21:52.33hasteI guess you also should unlock it then and notify the user
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21:53.22Wobin_The problem occurred however when we had a posX, but not a posY
21:53.58Wobin_I'll extend it to check posY too
21:54.04Wobin_no reason why not
21:54.13hastewould that ever happen?
21:54.21Wobin_Well it did for us =)
21:54.28Wobin_But that's mostly due to changes in code =P
21:55.01hastethe reason it didn't run the centering was 'cause you set them to or 0 I guess
21:55.13hastesince local x = 0 if x then end would return true
21:55.55Wobin_Anyway, I threw in a call to ChatUnlock in that function as well
21:57.29hasteand your border code is borked ;)
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21:58.15LaerbeeJo_WoWHey, guys!
21:58.19hasteor.. not bored, but it won't happen real-time
21:58.21Wobin_hehe
21:58.25hasteyou will have to reload the UI :p
21:58.30hasteand it will report the current setting
21:58.31Wobin_yeah, I'll go fix that =)
21:58.40hastehello there Mr. LaerbeeJo
21:58.46LaerbeeJo*gasp*
21:58.52LaerbeeJoMiss, atm.
21:58.59LaerbeeJoSoon to be Mrs.
21:59.04kergothfoo
21:59.17Wobin_Same deal with the show variable
22:00.05Wobin_ooh
22:00.07Wobin_Congrats =)
22:00.15ckknighthey LaerbeeJo
22:00.15LaerbeeJo:D
22:00.21LaerbeeJoHey, Ck!
22:00.25hastehehe
22:00.25ckknighthow's things?
22:00.25LaerbeeJoHow was your vacation?
22:00.30ckknightI'm in a hotel room
22:00.31LaerbeeJoGrood.  I slept all day.
22:00.37hasteI'm tired *pushes away blame*
22:00.39ckknightgrood?
22:00.40LaerbeeJoAh, still on it! Sweeeeeet!
22:00.44ckknightwell
22:00.49ckknightit's not really vacation
22:00.52ckknightturns out I'm moving
22:00.53LaerbeeJoGreat + Good = Grood
22:00.56LaerbeeJoOh, wow.
22:01.02ckknightyep
22:01.07LaerbeeJoI hate moving.
22:01.11LaerbeeJoWith a passion.
22:01.12ckknightit wasn't too bad
22:01.20ckknightgot all my stuff packaged up
22:01.25ckknightleaving at 6 AM
22:01.56LaerbeeJoWell I'm glad it went smoothly then.
22:02.08ckknightyep
22:05.07CIA-1703ckknight * r1916 10CrayonLib/ (. API.html CrayonLib.toc Lib/ Lib/CrayonLib.lua README.txt): CrayonLib - initial commit.
22:05.46ckknightooh, good yea
22:05.48hastethat one looks interesting ckknight
22:05.48ckknightyear*
22:05.59ckknighthrm?
22:06.27hasteCrayonLib
22:06.42ckknightokay
22:06.50ckknightit's for colors
22:07.48ckknightI'm splitting up FuBarUtils
22:08.11Taingah I just got back from looking at an apartment.  I'm paying movers this time though, I can't deal with it.
22:09.21ckknightmy life exists in about 18 cubic feet, I figured out
22:10.13Neronixckknight: Any progress on that locking bug in tabletlib?
22:10.21ckknightwhat locking bug?
22:10.31NeronixThe one Elkano reported the other day
22:10.38Wobin_haste: any more bugs you can see offhand, or shall I commit the fixes?
22:11.43ckknightNeronix, doesn't help
22:12.41NeronixIt's the one where sometimes alt-right-click won't work after a tablet is locked
22:12.50NeronixI can't reproduce it myself
22:13.05NeronixAnd an NS user's apparently got it as well
22:13.22ckknightthey need SEEmbedKeys
22:14.43hasteWobin_: not that I know of
22:14.43NeronixI need to include it myself?
22:14.51ckknightyes
22:14.53Wobin_k
22:14.55NeronixNoted, thanks
22:14.56ckknightit's an embed
22:15.00ckknightso no biggie
22:15.30Neronixindeed
22:15.57CIA-1703wobin * r1917 10GonffBar/GonffBar.lua: GonffBar - General bugfixes to do with positioning and the such
22:16.41CIA-1703wobin * r1918 10ReverseEngineering/ReverseEngineering.lua: ReverseEngineering - Changed the version into a string so I could have a x.y.z type, rather than a typo
22:17.37LaerbeeJoHey, Tain...can you look at this script thinger for me and see why it's not doing what it's supposed to? :\
22:18.06LaerbeeJohttp://ace.pastebin.com/723556
22:19.27kergothckknight: http://www.rememberthemilk.com/home/kergoth/401473/
22:19.37LaerbeeJohttp://ace.pastebin.com/72355, actually.
22:19.49ckknightshiny.
22:19.52LaerbeeJohttp://ace.pastebin.com/723559 !
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22:20.45Neronixckknight: I did name a method after you like I said I would :P
22:21.01ckknightlol.
22:21.04ckknightwhat's that?
22:21.13Amadeo_Oh, I see where your love is
22:21.15NeronixThe event handler/parser for HoTs
22:21.31TainLaerbeeJo: You're trying to make those buttons only visible when those frames are visible?  It's easier to parent the VisorActionButton to the frame
22:21.59TainIf you parent VisorActionButton67 to the MiniMapTrackingFrame it'll be shown/hidden with it
22:22.00LaerbeeJoNo, I want the button to be visible when the frame is hidden.
22:22.05TainOh.
22:22.16TainCan't you change your mind?
22:22.28LaerbeeJo*grin* As much as I'd like to, no. ;)
22:22.28Gngskheh
22:22.35Gngskso easy with flexbar!
22:23.06TainGngsk says use flexbar, so I'm afraid that's what you must do.
22:23.12ckknightAmadeo_, lol
22:23.14Amadeo_boooo
22:23.17kergothckknight: whats your opinion on this api?  i'm thinking, for aceoocontract, that you'd define methods like:  myclass.mystaticmethod = function() return function() print("this is teh precondition") end, function(self) print("This i the real method") end, function() print("this is the postmethod") end end
22:23.17Gngskpwnt!
22:23.17Amadeo_:)
22:23.30TainDoes it do anything?  Does it error?
22:23.41kergothckknight: then the __newindex takes that, executes it to get the components, and stores the pre and post condition functions in an internal, not publically visable data structure
22:24.02ckknighthrm
22:24.03Amadeo_Wobin_: Any more updates?
22:24.20ckknightcould work
22:24.30kergothalternatively, local mymethod = function() end myclass.mymethod = function() return nil,mymethod,nil end
22:24.34kergothif you have no conditions
22:24.38Wobin_yep
22:24.40ckknightright
22:24.42Amadeo_awesome
22:24.44Amadeo_I'll c heck it out now
22:24.48TainLaerbeeJo have you tried with :VisorHide() and :VisorShow() ?
22:24.50Wobin_(to which mod? =P)
22:25.05LaerbeeJoI have not.  I will now.
22:25.10ckknightkergoth, you gotta be sure to provide an empty table 'old' for pre and post
22:25.23ckknightwhich can be done with fenvs
22:25.29kergothckknight: then the __newindex is free to obey a variable you set when you created the class/object to handle debug vs release
22:25.34kergothoh yeah, almost forgot about that
22:25.42Amadeo_Wobin_: Argh! Gonff :)
22:25.45LaerbeeJoOne problem is, though, the tracking frame never shows up either.
22:25.51Wobin_Yes =)
22:25.53Amadeo_:DD
22:26.01Wobin_I actually think it might be close to release =P
22:26.03TainOh so the hook call isn't working
22:26.22LaerbeeJoYeah, I don't think so.
22:26.24Wobin_but have a look at it, see what else can be done for it
22:26.32TainI have to look at the acehooks documentation every single time.
22:26.36LaerbeeJoIt's like the button that starts my tracking doesn't do anything.
22:27.46LaerbeeJoAnd it tells me VisorShow is a nil value
22:28.11ckknightkergoth, sounds good
22:28.22ckknightI'm currently out of it, though, I'll have to review later
22:29.31kergothjust making sure we're on the same page on it, cause after i finish the core aceoo work, thats what i'm doing
22:30.00kergothhttp://kergoth.com/projects/wow/wiki/foo .. hehe, tell me if the embed method is comprehensible
22:30.13ckknighthailstorm going on outside
22:30.24TainI really forget how it works sometimes.  Try changing the self.Hooks call to quotes:  self.Hooks["MiniMapTrackingFrame"]...
22:30.26kergothdoh
22:30.40LaerbeeJoOkay.
22:30.47LaerbeeJoI think we did that the first time, though.
22:31.28TainI just don't understand the hooks return call all the time.
22:32.01Tekcuberf
22:32.03CIA-1703neronix * r1919 10NanoStats/ (. NanoStats.lua NanoStats.toc Readme.txt):
22:32.03CIA-17NanoStats
22:32.03CIA-17- Added SEEmbedKeys to externals (Required by TabletLib)
22:32.04CIA-17- Fixed up a couple of local vars
22:32.04CIA-17- Forgot to register CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS (Thanks Dimo!)
22:33.45LaerbeeJoYeah, no go on the ""
22:38.08[MoonWolf]the google search box is like the console to the internet.
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22:40.04Wobin_Tekcub!
22:40.21Neronix[MoonWolf]: You can't rm -Rf aol.com :(
22:40.29[MoonWolf]to bad
22:40.55Tekcubhi wobble
22:41.22Tekcubanyone been able to test my PRT changes to see if they actually did help?
22:41.37TekcubI'll be in ZG tonight, but I'll never hit the frame limit there
22:43.30Wobin_Hey Tek, another suggestion for MountMe =) If I trigger it once while moving as a hunter, it fires off AotP, how about if I trigger it twice, it switches to AotC, or starts with AotC and fires off AotP?
22:49.17Amadeo_wow, you did it Tekcub
22:49.34Amadeo_it won't dismount while out of range :)
22:49.35Amadeo_:DD
22:49.52Tekcubwob, why?
22:50.04Tekcubit uses pack if you have it, cheetah otherwise
22:50.17Tekcubama, I didn't do anything
22:50.21Amadeo_hm
22:50.29Tekcubyou're probably getting a range error not a mount error
22:50.35Tekcubit dismounts on mount errors :P
22:50.41Amadeo_no errors!
22:50.43Amadeo_all I know is
22:50.53Amadeo_before, if I hit Charge while an enemy was too far away, it would still dismount me
22:50.54Wobin_Tec in case I don't want my partymembers affected by it
22:50.58Tekcubdoes your overhead say "Out of range" or "Can't do while mounted"?
22:51.02Amadeo_yeah
22:51.29TekcubWob, then just use cheetah manually :P
22:51.32Amadeo_Out of Range
22:51.35Wobin_There are times I'd want to run quickly to a spot, but I don't want the tank dazed =P
22:51.42Tekcubthen it's not gonna dismount on ya
22:52.11Tekcubdo you use pack much?
22:52.18Amadeo_awesome, I wonder why it seemed to do it before, maybe I was looking at something else
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22:52.32Wobin_depending on the circumstances
22:53.12TekcubI'll tweak the logic to swap between the two, and stort with C instead of P
22:53.16Tekcubbut, not now :)
22:53.23TekcubI'm "Aceing" GuildFu up
22:53.30TekcubI'm sick of all the extra shit
22:53.47Tekcubso I'm doing to garf like I did to ckk with his Durability *grin*
22:54.01Wobin_hehe
22:54.05Wobin_cut it down to size
22:54.05Tekcubso look for GuildTek on the SVN, but I'll be nice and not offically release it
22:54.32Tekcubwell no offense to garf, but the filters and shit were put in cause of the limits in blizzy's menus and tooltips
22:54.43Tekcubthose limits aren't in Fu, so fuck that shit
22:55.01Tekcuband the default UI handles sorting already, that's extra processing I can cut out
22:55.03hasteKEKE!
22:55.12hasterwar! etc
22:56.00Tekcub:P
22:56.39hasteEasiest way to check if a retard.. uhm I mean user is tinkering in the Interface Options?
22:56.59hastesince blizzard likes to show the party interface then
23:00.28TainI'm liking http://popurls.com/  Great aggregator of aggregators.
23:01.51Wobin_But who watches the watchers?
23:02.20TainI do.
23:02.43LaerbeeJoI like to watch.
23:06.01TainWow, Apple has closed the source of Intel OS X.
23:08.06Amadeo_LaerbeeJo ;)
23:08.07hasteself:Hook("RaidOptionsFrame_UpdatePartyFrames", "hideBlizzParty") << valid solution right ;) ?
23:08.59hastethe only thing the RaidOptions.. function does is hide the party interface, to then show it again
23:11.36Tekcubcut GuildFu down to 157 lines of code :)
23:11.51Tekcubstill more to be done, need to make it Fu 1.2 compatible :)
23:12.31CairennTekcub: so why not release it anyway? some folks might like the cut down version
23:12.38CIA-1703maia * r1920 10Squishy/ (Lib/MetrognomeLib.lua.old core.lua): Squishy: added "/squishy wtf" to debug frame problems
23:12.43CIA-1703tekkub 07Tekkub * r1921 10FuBar_GuildFu/ (GuildFu.lua GuildFuLocals.lua): FuBar_GuildFu (Tekkub's branch) - Cut out all the unneeded crap in the menu code, should be ready to convert to FuBarPlugin 1.2
23:13.02CIA-1703wobin * r1922 10GonffBar/ (GonffBar.lua GonffBarLocals.lua):
23:13.02CIA-17GonffBar - Fixed up a bug where the combatpoint bar wouldn't update the size change
23:13.02CIA-17Added in direction (fill/empty) toggle (geeze, one line change...)
23:13.09Tekcubfine!  damn you evil temptress, I'll release it... just.. .please put your clothes back on
23:13.17Cairennlol
23:13.33Cairennthat took a lot of hard arm twisting, I'm telling ya!
23:13.51Wobin_It's a hard job, but somebody's gotta do it
23:14.06Tekcubwell I feel bad releasing things thot compete with other acey addons and mine are smaller :P
23:14.39Tekcubbut I did point him at my branches of guild and friends a few times, I guess I shouldn't feel bad
23:14.56Cairennbut the other is larger for a reason ... it has more options
23:15.24Tekcubyea but most of those option are to circumvent the limits of blizzy's menus and tooltips
23:15.27Cairennbesides which, it's brokkededed right now anyway, it won't stay in place on the bar, it always moves to the end
23:15.44Wobin_although he fixed friendsfu
23:15.52hasteWobin_: zomg, I soon don't have to hack it :D
23:15.57TainI need a cheeseburger.
23:16.04Wobin_Well you don't =)
23:16.08Tekcuball my plugins reset position right now... that bitch ckk told me to play with FUBAR_DEFAULTS but doesn't have any damn documentation on it
23:16.28Wobin_"It's all in the API" =)
23:16.31Cairennguild is the only one that is doing it for me
23:16.35Tekcubspeaking of, I need to revert that file back :P
23:16.37hasteWobin_: I still do, I only use the spark and the CP bar :p
23:16.56TainTekkub are you planning to go back and update the exp plugin?
23:16.58Cairennmeh, that ckknight guy, he's a real jerkof
23:17.05Wobin_I have to say, it looks quite good on the unitframe
23:17.06Tekcubyea he is
23:17.39hasteWobin_: yeh, going to make a little oUF_GnoffBar or something
23:17.47hastewhich just adds it to the player frame
23:17.51Wobin_hehe the name is great =P
23:18.00TainAnd I ask because I was going to change the one I did for BossPanel originally to just show exp and not keep all that stat nonsense.
23:18.07Wobin_Sounds lke you're being punched in the gut a couple of times =)
23:18.19hasteWobin_: I know :(
23:18.40hasteit took me like four attempts to get it from the SVN to my Interface folder :p
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23:22.05Wobin_I might package it up and release it
23:23.34Wobin_oh I'll need screenies
23:23.38Wobin_I'll get them later =)
23:23.42Wobin_Off for a nap
23:23.43Wobin_night!
23:23.58Tekcubhey ckk, you around?
23:24.03Wobin_ps, Amadeo_ haste, if you see any more bugs, lemme know?
23:24.26TekcubFuBarPlugin1.2.lua 2030: Standard frame is not registered with tablet... eh?
23:25.18hasteWobin_: aye
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23:30.29Amadeo_Wobin_: Absolutely
23:47.20CIA-1703tekkub 07Tekkub * r1923 10FuBar_GuildFu/GuildFu.lua:
23:47.20CIA-17FuBar_GuildFu (Tekkub's branch)
23:47.20CIA-17- Converted to FuBarPlugin 1.2, menus now use dewdrop
23:47.20CIA-17- Reworked Tooltip into columns for easier reading
23:47.20CIA-17- Fixed onclick to properly toggle the guild frame, instead of just showing it.
23:47.45hastenrerf
23:47.54hasteif you do a /who with the GUI
23:48.07hasteand don't find anyone, and then press Add Friend, you actually get an error!
23:48.13hastesame with group invite ^^;

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