irclog2html for #wowace on 20060511

`00:00.52`	`ckknight`	`in FuBar 1.4, I will guarantee that FuBar plugins will no longer need FuBar at all`
`00:01.31`	`ckknight`	`I'll just have a clearly defined API that plugins need to follow, and as long as they do, they'll fit into FuBar`
`00:01.51`	`ckknight`	`in such a way, one could technically make an easy Titan->FuBar compatibility layer`
`00:01.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Tekkub: add 'make competition for mods that could be better and currently have no reason to bother'`
`00:01.56`	`ckknight`	`or whatever, really`
`00:02.04`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's basically what BulkMail is =P`
`00:03.48`	`hyperChipmunk`	`because no matter how bad MassMail might be, I wouldn't count on mine being 'better'`
`00:04.36`	`ckknight`	`I really want Ace2 to come out`
`00:04.47`	`ckknight`	`cause I don't want to start on FuBar 1.4 till it does`
`00:05.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you mean we'll have a day to catch up to a stable version?`
`00:05.38`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`00:05.47`	`Tekkub`	`yea CTMM hasn't been touched in how long?`
`00:05.54`	`Tekkub`	`it needs a damn rewite`
`00:06.26`	`Cairenn`	`ckknight: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4785`
`00:06.52`	`ckknight`	`Cairenn, he's not using the most recent version anyway`
`00:07.00`	`weab`	`shocker!`
`00:07.03`	`Cairenn`	`so tell him, not me ;)`
`00:07.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`weab: rofl`
`00:07.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I had someone yesterday saying the tooltip didn't show up`
`00:08.04`	`hyperChipmunk`	`he was using like version 1500something`
`00:08.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`slacker`
`00:08.39`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that one was almost two freaking days old`
`00:09.14`	`ckknight`	`okay, I'm gonna work on taking as much plugin-related stuff out of FuBar and putting it into FuBarPlugin`
`00:09.21`	`ckknight`	`such as db handling`
`00:11.15`	`ckknight`	`and frame creation`
`00:12.15`	`ckknight`	`ooh`
`00:12.19`	`ckknight`	`one bad thing I thought of`
`00:12.41`	`ckknight`	`if FuBarPlugins don't need FuBar to run, then how would LoD plugins be loaded at all?`
`00:14.04`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Cairenn: Wanna approve BagBoy 0.8? ;)`
`00:14.09`	`cladhaire`	`Why are you trying to make it not require FuBar?`
`00:14.24`	`Cairenn`	`Ratbert_CP: what's it worth to ya?`
`00:14.28`	`ckknight`	`modularity`
`00:14.40`	`ckknight`	`and indie doesn't want FuBar, but wants the plugins`
`00:15.08`	`Cairenn`	`you're welcome`
`00:15.12`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Thank you!`
`00:15.17`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Now I need to run home!`
`00:15.53`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: And what will the plugins do without the panel?`
`00:15.58`	`cladhaire`	`it seems like a bunch of work for not much gain`
`00:16.02`	`ckknight`	`attach to the Minimap`
`00:16.09`	`ckknight`	`which they already can do`
`00:16.10`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it's still a good display framework`
`00:16.26`	`*** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@adsl-71-147-10-6.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)`
`00:16.31`	`ckknight`	`there's a difference between the plugins and the panel`
`00:16.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, if there's one thing there isn't enough of, it's minimap buttons`
`00:16.40`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`00:16.42`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I have one minimap button >8D`
`00:16.49`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and that's part of the game`
`00:16.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`(tracking)`
`00:17.00`	`CIA-13`	`03wobin * r1665 10FrameLib/Lib/FrameLib.lua:`
`00:17.00`	`CIA-13`	`FrameLib: Still not functional.`
`00:17.01`	`CIA-13`	`I changed the operation to ignore names completely so it's somewhat cleaner in the way it works`
`00:17.01`	`CIA-13`	`It still unfortunately crashes, and I can't figure out why. Closest I can track it down to is that a table.remove removes an entry, then does something funky with another entry causing memory failure.`
`00:17.01`	`CIA-13`	`Help. =P`
`00:17.11`	`gnorlish`	`make it so i can have a fubar on my other monitor`
`00:17.12`	`gnorlish`	`thanks`
`00:17.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Wobin_: ha`
`00:17.33`	`Wobin_`	`feel free to fix it, Hyper =P`
`00:17.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`screw you pal`
`00:18.24`	`Wobin_`	`I'd want dinner and a movie first, at least =P You may be easy, but I'm not =P`
`00:18.40`	`ckknight`	`gnorlish, you can`
`00:18.51`	`gnorlish`	`good lord, don't tell me that`
`00:19.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh how verily I have been crushed by your razorsharp wit`
`00:19.06`	`gnorlish`	`i'd try to find a way to put my entire UI on another monitor`
`00:19.12`	`ckknight`	`you can move panels and resize em to however you want`
`00:19.30`	`ckknight`	`if you have your UI on two windows, just resize FuBar to the size of one monitor and place it there`
`00:20.05`	`ckknight`	`also, you could have it stretch across both monitors, a la Tekkub`
`00:20.24`	`gnorlish`	`stretching is bad, i have a 19" lcd and 17" crt`
`00:20.27`	`gnorlish`	`:o`
`00:20.48`	`gnorlish`	`i'm actually quite happy with using the fubar as a border`
`00:20.54`	`gnorlish`	`for my chat windows`
`00:20.59`	`gnorlish`	`on the bottom`
`00:21.24`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`00:21.51`	`cladhaire`	`Cairenn: I'm going to try and behave in this conversatino =)`
`00:22.07`	`Wobin_`	`Wow.`
`00:22.12`	`Wobin_`	`He can be an arse.`
`00:22.18`	`Cairenn`	`cladhaire: which conversation?`
`00:22.25`	`Cairenn`	`nm`
`00:22.39`	`cladhaire`	`Cairenn: =)`
`00:25.15`	`cladhaire`	`Cairenn: Sorry =) Didn't mean to cross the line, but I'm done now =)`
`00:26.23`	`cladhaire`	`If I talk to him/her again kick me from the channel pls =)`
`00:26.28`	`Cairenn`	`cladhaire: 'sokay`
`00:27.26`	`cladhaire`	`It really needed to be said.. I wish i was there half the times he called Iriel wrong.`
`00:27.46`	`Wobin_`	`Hey Clad: Dya want to take a look at FrameLib and tell me where I'm going wrong? =)`
`00:27.58`	`cladhaire`	`One thing to learn about me.. I dont say something unless I am as sure about it as I can be. I dont bullshit (except in class)`
`00:28.02`	`cladhaire`	`Wobin_: Not sure what you'r ereferring to.`
`00:28.19`	`Wobin_`	`FrameLib is my attempt at a UIObject pool library`
`00:28.31`	`Wobin_`	`However, I'm crashing Wow =P`
`00:28.39`	`Wobin_`	`And I can't pin down the reason`
`00:29.25`	`cladhaire`	`Pastebin it.. i have a few seconds to look at it.`
`00:29.33`	`Wobin_`	`hm,`
`00:33.08`	`Wobin_`	`It's a little big... but... http://ace.pastebin.com/710578`
`00:34.03`	`Wobin_`	`Otherwise it's up on the SVN`
`00:34.12`	`ckknight`	`change table.remove(objtable, 1) to table.remove(objtable)`
`00:35.36`	`Wobin_`	`I've done that... it doesn't change anything I'm afraid`
`00:36.27`	`Codayus`	`cladhaire smacked Miravlix down? Woot!`
`00:36.33`	`ckknight`	`your naming system is odd`
`00:36.35`	`cladhaire`	`and where does it crash?`
`00:36.39`	`Cairenn`	`you know, I'm actually rather concerned at the moment ... he is actually, like, joking around and being almost human ...`
`00:36.45`	`Codayus`	`Miravlix really annoys me sometimes. :-/`
`00:36.47`	`Wobin_`	`Right at that point`
`00:36.47`	`cladhaire`	`haha =)`
`00:37.03`	`Codayus`	`clad clearly needs to get on his/her case more often!`
`00:37.23`	`cladhaire`	`<3`
`00:38.29`	`ckknight`	`variables and fields are lowercase for me, functions and classes are uppercase`
`00:38.37`	`ckknight`	`ewll, classes/objects`
`00:38.43`	`ckknight`	`but not hashes/lists`
`00:38.55`	`ckknight`	`hashes/lists are lowercase`
`00:39.10`	`cladhaire`	`Why are you ever removing something from the table`
`00:39.14`	`cladhaire`	`without looking at the code`
`00:39.16`	`cladhaire`	`just curious =)`
`00:39.29`	`Wobin_`	`So I know that it's being used`
`00:39.52`	`Wobin_`	`and that I can then keep using table.remove to assign to other requests`
`00:39.54`	`cladhaire`	`Why not just have a work table (it looks like you do) inUse[Blah] and have it be a boolean?`
`00:40.08`	`cladhaire`	`I guess it makes sense.`
`00:40.19`	`cladhaire`	`Its just tough to think about doing it in a way different than I did =)`
`00:40.29`	`ckknight`	`I prefer a pool`
`00:40.45`	`Wobin_`	`I guess I'm not really after performance, merely as long as the reuse happens...`
`00:41.12`	`cladhaire`	`nod`
`00:41.17`	`cladhaire`	`brb razorgore`
`00:41.18`	`Wobin_`	`Cause I imagine I'd have to iterate through the pool to find a free one each time`
`00:43.14`	`cladhaire`	`not really`
`00:43.56`	`cladhaire`	`really depends on how you do it tho`
`00:44.30`	`cladhaire`	`keep a numeric counter with the last REMOVED frame's index, or -1 if there are no free frames.`
`00:45.00`	`Wobin_`	`hm true`
`00:45.18`	`Tekkub`	`sounds like Compost...`
`00:45.22`	`Tekkub`	`hint`
`00:45.25`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`00:45.34`	`cladhaire`	`its the perfectraid methos =)`
`00:45.40`	`cladhaire`	`method.`
`00:45.43`	`ckknight`	`one weird thing, Wobin`
`00:45.56`	`ckknight`	`line 107`
`00:46.08`	`ckknight`	`you create a table normally, but reclaim it with compost`
`00:46.18`	`Wobin_`	`yus`
`00:47.20`	`ckknight`	and what is the `if(self.compost and self.compost:Reclaim(kids)) then end` syntax?
`00:47.22`	`ckknight`	`unclean`
`00:47.41`	`ckknight`	just have it be `if self.compost then self.compost:Reclaim(kids) end`
`00:47.44`	`cladhaire`	`children > kids =)`
`00:54.42`	`Tem`	`ckknight: leave Wobin_ 's parens alone.`
`00:54.54`	`ckknight`	`it had nothing to do with parens`
`00:55.04`	`Wobin_`	`It's use of side effects =P`
`00:55.14`	`Wobin_`	`To no real saving of effect`
`00:55.32`	`ckknight`	`you actually do 2 "if"s in your code`
`00:56.05`	`ckknight`	`yours checks if self.compost is boolean true, then it runs the reclaim, checks that, then runs the blank code`
`00:56.24`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Hey, yesterday someone gave me a little script to return the cursor's position...is that person here or does anyone else know one?`
`00:56.27`	`LaerbeeJo`	`hopeful face`
`00:57.56`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Cursor_Functions`
`00:58.20`	`weab`	`GetCursorPosition()`
`00:58.21`	`weab`	`..`
`00:58.27`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Yes, I know about the function, but apparently I'm too damned stupid to work it.`
`00:58.33`	`LaerbeeJo`	`'Cause when I run that, nothing happens.`
`00:59.34`	`LaerbeeJo`	`So I had this thinger that said local x, y = GetCursorPosition();`
`00:59.48`	`weab`	`x,y = GetCursorPosition() ace.print(x..","..y)`
`01:00.33`	`LaerbeeJo`	`And then I told it to put up a UIErrorsFrame message with it, but still nothing.`
`01:00.37`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh, sec.`
`01:00.46`	`*** join/#wowace banditron_ (n=bandito@cpe-67-9-143-58.austin.res.rr.com)`
`01:01.42`	`ckknight`	`isn't it ace:print(x..","..y)`
`01:01.45`	`ckknight`	`colon, not dot`
`01:01.54`	`weab`	`typo`
`01:02.19`	`weab`	`i dont actually use ace's print because i think it sucks`
`01:03.59`	`LaerbeeJo`	`It tells me that I am missing a ) near y.`
`01:05.13`	`cladhaire`	`weab: Don't use ace's print, use self.cmd:msg`
`01:05.16`	`cladhaire`	`it doesn't suck =)`
`01:05.50`	`weab`	`meh, i use that when i actually do want to display a message`
`01:06.01`	`weab`	`when i want to print something for debugging i use my own print function`
`01:09.35`	`ckknight`	`I wrote m own print deal for FuBar`
`01:09.47`	`ckknight`	`my*`
`01:10.22`	`clad\|away`	`same here`
`01:10.27`	`clad\|away`	`i have my own print and debug functinos.`
`01:10.51`	`ckknight`	`mine doesn't use format`
`01:10.58`	`ckknight`	`it just adds spaces between the args`
`01:11.45`	`ckknight`	`so you'd do more like print(x, y)`
`01:12.13`	`weab`	`mine's concat with a comma`
`01:12.57`	`Wobin_`	`table.concat(table,",")?`
`01:13.37`	`clad\|away`	`My favorite thing I did ever was in testing for AceLibrary.. I have an empty class, with a metatable that allows all method calls, and prints out the call with full arguments.`
`01:13.52`	`weab`	`function print(...)`
`01:13.52`	`weab`	`for i=1, arg.n, 1 do`
`01:13.52`	`weab`	`arg[i] = tostring(arg[i])`
`01:13.52`	`weab`	`end`
`01:13.52`	`weab`	`DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(concat(arg, ", "))`
`01:13.52`	`weab`	`end`
`01:13.56`	`weab`	`simple and sweet`
`01:14.33`	`clad\|away`	`Mine is more complex`
`01:14.34`	`Tain`	`I would never be able to follow, "My favorite thing I never did was..." with anything to do with Ace.`
`01:14.40`	`clad\|away`	`adds quotes if its a string,`
`01:14.49`	`clad\|away`	`Tain: My favorite thing I did ever was your mom.`
`01:15.48`	`*** join/#wowace HoJ\|Slayman (i=Slayman@c207132.adsl.hansenet.de)`
`01:16.43`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Whoa, I can't imagine Clad saying something like that...but there it was.`
`01:16.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`O.O`
`01:17.08`	`Tem`	`lol`
`01:17.12`	`Tem`	`hang out here a bit more`
`01:17.21`	`weab`	`doesn't carry all that much weight from someone who does guys!`
`01:17.59`	`clad\|away`	`weab: Why? Never heard of a bisexual, or is the concept too bizarre for you?`
`01:18.13`	`clad\|away`	`I didn't say I had sex with his mother for pure pleasure and procreational purposes.`
`01:18.40`	`clad\|away`	`i suck at being away`
`01:18.47`	`clad\|away`	`i need to get dressed and drive to tragywydd's house.`
`01:18.51`	`weab`	`yeah. go away and take a joke ;p`
`01:19.03`	`clad\|away`	`weab: If it was funny I would, but sadly =)`
`01:19.06`	`clad\|away`	`cackle`
`01:19.13`	`weab`	`and your mom was hilarious!`
`01:19.15`	`clad\|away`	`I wanna fight with Mira more.`
`01:19.24`	`ckknight`	`same here, clad`
`01:19.44`	`clad\|away`	`Its a good thing I dont have OP in this channel.. i'd change the topic every 3 seconds... its how I roll with our gmotd.`
`01:20.36`	`Tem`	`clad\|away: LOL`
`01:20.43`	`Tem`	`I have crazy fun with our motd`
`01:20.54`	`clad\|away`	`./gmotd Count is a lesbian, I have pictures.`
`01:20.55`	`Tem`	`someone says something embarassing in raid chat?`
`01:21.10`	`Tem`	`immortalize it`
`01:21.24`	`ckknight`	`Jubilee is the lamest of all mutants.`
`01:21.34`	`clad\|away`	`agreed.`
`01:21.35`	`clad\|away`	`who throws light`
`01:21.39`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`01:21.41`	`Tain`	`ewww my mom`
`01:21.43`	`gnorlish`	`in the x-universe maybe`
`01:21.47`	`gnorlish`	`there are lamer though`
`01:21.51`	`ckknight`	`example?`
`01:21.56`	`gnorlish`	`lemme dig through my old wizard mags`
`01:22.20`	`weab`	`i've got fours years worth of logs from eq/wow that i turned into a quotebot for our irc`
`01:22.22`	`clad\|away`	`k.. i'm really leaving now.`
`01:22.26`	`clad\|away`	`just wiped at Vael, so I'm leaving =)`
`01:22.29`	`ckknight`	`cya, clad`
`01:22.31`	`clad\|away`	`first attempt with the new guildies.`
`01:22.33`	`clad\|away`	`ckknight: Later =)(`
`01:23.31`	`Tem`	`weab: that sounds awesome`
`01:23.55`	`weab`	`some pretty fantastic stuff pops up now and then`
`01:24.02`	`gnorlish`	`i think i lost my oldest wizards`
`01:24.03`	`Tem`	`in fact...`
`01:24.10`	`Tem`	`it makes me want to write an addon`
`01:24.10`	`gnorlish`	`the ones that had a "mort of the month" in each issue`
`01:24.24`	`weab`	`oh, i did the addon in-game version`
`01:24.27`	`weab`	`that didnt work out so well`
`01:24.41`	`ckknight`	`why not?`
`01:24.58`	`weab`	`well, not with the way i implemented it :P`
`01:25.07`	`weab`	`basically made it exactly like the irc bot`
`01:25.10`	`weab`	`so much spam`
`01:25.41`	`*** join/#wowace EvilGod^ (n=evilgod@82.79.131.19)`
`01:25.49`	`Tem`	`ZOMG 20 slot bags!`
`01:26.03`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`01:26.27`	`Tem`	`expantion screenshot`
`01:26.39`	`Tem`	`has a 20 slotter in the background of an item tooltip`
`01:26.50`	`Tem`	`filled with major healing pots`
`01:28.22`	`gnorlish`	`considering 18 slotters cost something around 200g`
`01:28.31`	`gnorlish`	`20 slotters will cost souls`
`01:28.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Sad. I sold mine already. :(`
`01:29.09`	`gnorlish`	`won't have to be yours`
`01:29.12`	`gnorlish`	`blizz isn't picky`
`01:29.23`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Ooh, nice.`
`01:29.35`	`LaerbeeJo`	`My son still has most of his.`
`01:29.46`	`gnorlish`	`he'll never notice its gone`
`01:29.54`	`gnorlish`	`until he tries to feel feelings`
`01:31.10`	`LaerbeeJo`	`zOMG...what's wrong with this?`
`01:31.10`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Visor:Do("f=VisorActionButton2 s=.6 h=FALSE p=VisorActionButton1 pr=VisorActionButton1 p1=TOPLEFT p2=TOPRIGHT")`
`01:31.12`	`ckknight`	`Cyclops is also lame`
`01:31.19`	`LaerbeeJo`	`It keeps giving me an error.`
`01:31.25`	`LaerbeeJo`	`It made me kick my desk. :(`
`01:32.28`	`gnorlish`	`http://www.marveldirectory.com`
`01:32.31`	`Tem`	`ckknight: cyclops used to not be lame.`
`01:32.38`	`gnorlish`	`there are some real winners hidden in there`
`01:33.05`	`Tem`	`ckknight: cyclops was cool when "ZOMGLAZERZPEWPEW" was a serious statement`
`01:34.07`	`Tain`	`LaerbeeJo: try adding x=0 y=0 to that and see if it gives an error`
`01:34.35`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh, hee! I just fixured it out.`
`01:34.52`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I kept seeing the ox in the error and remembered it from yesteray.`
`01:34.57`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Erm, yesterday.`
`01:36.16`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Is it bad to chain pr?`
`01:36.32`	`LaerbeeJo`	`So that 2 is pr to 1 and 3 to 2 and 4 to 3, etc.?`
`01:36.51`	`Tain`	`No that's a good thing.`
`01:36.54`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh.`
`01:36.55`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Okay.`
`01:36.56`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Yay!`
`01:37.00`	`weab`	`only cats and chainsaws chould chain purr`
`01:37.05`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I hate my bird.`
`01:37.14`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Does anyone want to kill him? I'll make you cookies after.`
`01:37.23`	`Wobin_`	`What about cats on chainsaws?`
`01:37.45`	`Tain`	`I killed my roommate's bird once. But it wasn't my fault. :(`
`01:37.53`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I almost killed him yesterday.`
`01:38.07`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But I regret saying something after I notice.`
`01:38.09`	`LaerbeeJo`	`sniffle`
`01:38.18`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But I just couldn't kill anything with a pan of boiling water.`
`01:38.23`	`LaerbeeJo`	`That's too awful, even for Scooter.`
`01:38.45`	`Tain`	`I make exceptions for lobster.`
`01:38.48`	`Wobin_`	`That requires a level of malice not many of us can achieve`
`01:38.57`	`Wobin_`	`(lobsters an exception)`
`01:39.09`	`Tain`	`I have Malice level 5.`
`01:39.23`	`ckknight`	`I want to see a show that focuses on supervillains instead of superheroes`
`01:39.50`	`ckknight`	`but not in a bad way, in a more intellectual way`
`01:39.57`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I remember gogusrl.`
`01:40.03`	`LaerbeeJo`	`He was in SACK.`
`01:40.04`	`Tain`	`There was a comic series like that that was really good.`
`01:40.05`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or ROAR`
`01:40.08`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or something.`
`01:40.11`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Maybe it was Paradox.`
`01:40.25`	`LaerbeeJo`	`He was definitely in something.`
`01:40.28`	`LaerbeeJo`	`grin`
`01:40.40`	`ckknight`	`the supervillains need to lead the revolution`
`01:41.03`	`Tain`	`Thunderbolts!`
`01:41.04`	`Tain`	`That was it.`
`01:41.05`	`ckknight`	`superheroes are all about keeping things the way they are, not making things "better"`
`01:41.08`	`Tain`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolts_(comics)`
`01:41.18`	`Tain`	`Not exactly what you're describing, but it was still very good.`
`01:41.29`	`gnorlish`	`superheroes are republicans?`
`01:41.33`	`ckknight`	`right.`
`01:41.49`	`ckknight`	`or at least conservatives`
`01:41.56`	`ckknight`	`in some sense`
`01:41.58`	`Wobin_`	`have you seen the blurb for the Marvel Civil War miniseries?`
`01:41.59`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Is it okay if I pr two buttons to the same one?`
`01:42.12`	`Tain`	`Yes LaerbeeJo that's fine.`
`01:42.20`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Okay. Sorry for all the questions.`
`01:42.21`	`Tain`	`Yeah Wobin, that looks interesting.`
`01:42.36`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I just don't know about stuff like this and I haven't played WoW for three days working on it.`
`01:42.41`	`Wobin_`	`http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060503wxhero03/BNStory/Entertainment/home`
`01:42.43`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Well, I guess that's nothing new.`
`01:42.56`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I do this all the time. I'm the Overhaul Queen. :(`
`01:44.28`	`ckknight`	`LaerbeeJo, you should just bite the bullet and learn to code Lua proper`
`01:44.50`	`Tain`	`Don't do it! It's evil!`
`01:45.57`	`Tem`	`check it out! Dwarf Female Mega Man!`
`01:45.59`	`Tem`	`http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=3590526&article_id=707112&channel_id=261&page_title=WoW+Screenies+Including+Tier+3&adString=network%3Dign%26site%3Dve3d%26pagetype%3Dmediaimgfat%26pagetype%3Dmediaimgfat&return_url=http%3A%2F%2Fve3d.ign.com%2Farticles%2F707%2F707112p1.html`
`01:46.19`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I always wanted too...I just have no idea where to start.`
`01:46.25`	`ckknight`	`why is that link so damn long`
`01:46.46`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I learn things by looking at what other people do and taking it apart. But I have no idea where to find "beginner" stuff like that.`
`01:46.58`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Is WoW the only thing that uses LUA?`
`01:47.13`	`LaerbeeJo`	`'Cause my boyfriend is a C# programmer and he never runs across it.`
`01:48.56`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I should just go to school. I need too much micromanaging to learn on my own. :P`
`01:50.01`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Also, is there a way to change the right-click properties of a Blizz button?`
`01:50.09`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Say, the backpack button?`
`01:51.48`	`Wobin_`	`You could add a script in?`
`01:51.50`	`Tem`	`yes`
`01:51.59`	`Tem`	`you need to hook it's OnClick script`
`01:52.46`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I know nothing about hooking anything.`
`01:52.56`	`Tain`	`Good, you should stay off the streets.`
`01:52.57`	`ckknight`	`LaerbeeJo, Lua is an embedded language, it's not found in most commercial apps, but is found in small embedded machines and particularly games`
`01:53.07`	`ckknight`	`much of the XBox and PS games use it`
`01:53.14`	`ckknight`	`and WoW uses it as well`
`01:53.56`	`weab`	`if you're a serious lua newbie, you should start simpler`
`01:54.19`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Start simpler than Visor?`
`01:54.27`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or than hooking that OnClick script?`
`01:55.30`	`Wobin_`	`k I'm off`
`01:55.57`	`weab`	`hooking`
`01:56.18`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Ah.`
`01:56.19`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Okay.`
`01:56.23`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I was just curious.`
`01:56.37`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I hide all the bags anyway, 'cause I just use B to open them all.`
`01:56.55`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But I was wondering if I could make the backpack show all the bags on rightclick.`
`01:57.01`	`LaerbeeJo`	`So I could switch them out or whatever.`
`01:57.05`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But yeah. :)`
`01:57.07`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I'll wait on that.`
`01:57.23`	`Tekkub`	`giggle`
`01:57.28`	`Tekkub`	`I love this "Cork" name`
`01:57.33`	`Tain`	`You could use an addon that shows all your bags in one frame.`
`01:57.48`	`Tekkub`	`my "fulfill need" method is <modulename>:PutACorkInIt(unit)`
`01:58.44`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I don't like to do that, 'cause I'm an obsessive sorter.`
`01:58.51`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I need the separate bags.`
`01:58.54`	`LaerbeeJo`	`<--- OCD`
`01:59.11`	`weab`	`i always thought bags and slots were stupid`
`01:59.32`	`weab`	`i've been meaning to write a bag replacement that doesnt show either. just a big sorted list of shit you have`
`01:59.51`	`weab`	`makes so much more sense to me.`
`02:00.43`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I never have enough room for all the crap I carry around.`
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`02:01.15`	`ckknight`	`use MrPlow`
`02:01.27`	`Tekkub`	`that name again in MrPlow`
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`02:01.37`	`Tekkub`	`oh yea, found a funny vid digs`
`02:01.43`	`ckknight`	`Senor Plow no es macho`
`02:02.02`	`LaerbeeJo`	`It rankles me to throw stuff away.`
`02:02.07`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I'd rather sell it.`
`02:02.13`	`LaerbeeJo`	`So I just hold on to it all.`
`02:02.20`	`LaerbeeJo`	`<--- OCD Packrat`
`02:02.25`	`Tekkub`	`Click or HOT DICKINGS: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YdOON54sb2Q`
`02:02.30`	`Tekkub`	`is funny :)`
`02:02.33`	`Tekkub`	`tho long`
`02:02.35`	`Tekkub`	`and hot`
`02:04.40`	`Tekkub`	`Oh Shit, it's Dr. Tran!`
`02:06.50`	`gnorlish`	`3D Dr Tran`
`02:10.12`	`Tekkub`	`Just look at that Fat Cock!`
`02:10.51`	`Tain`	`Dr. Tran is so funny.`
`02:12.27`	`LaerbeeJo`	`OMG, that's awesome.`
`02:12.50`	`Tekkub`	`You tell lies!`
`02:13.42`	`LaerbeeJo`	`That's over ten lies!`
`02:15.15`	`LaerbeeJo`	`He's giving away the hot dickings.`
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`02:23.53`	`Tain`	`Some may find the latest Sinfest comic to be humorous as well. http://www.sinfest.net/comics/sf20060510.gif`
`02:24.38`	`netcurse`	`ok guys we recoded half of the sql stuff`
`02:24.41`	`netcurse`	`site should be fine now`
`02:24.57`	`netcurse`	`i m gonna sleep if their is no bug, slept 3 hours since first migration`
`02:26.37`	`Tain`	`Lost was weird tonight.`
`02:31.13`	`ckknight`	`how'd you recode it?`
`02:31.16`	`ckknight`	`Tain, don't say any more`
`02:32.34`	`Tain`	`Stupid Internet.`
`02:35.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, I hate that thing`
`02:37.26`	`Tain`	`I hate when companies try to be clever but underestimate the impact of tens of thousands (or some other godawful number) of people trying to hit their website at the same time.`
`02:38.39`	`hyperChipmunk`	`cuz they listen to their marketers, not their gurus`
`02:38.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`'omg yes we have the latest greatest nothing can stop us server'`
`02:42.16`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Is this going to work?`
`02:42.17`	`LaerbeeJo`	`ss=if arg1 ~'''"LeftButton" BToggle33(); else UseAction(33)")`
`02:42.31`	`hyperChipmunk`	`~?`
`02:42.32`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or will all the "" screw up in a Visor:Do("") command?`
`02:42.48`	`hyperChipmunk`	`no, but ~ doesn't do anything on its own I think`
`02:42.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`~= maybe?`
`02:43.04`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Visor:Do("f=VisorActionButton33 h=FALSE p=VisorActionButton7 pr=VisorActionButton23 p1=TOPLEFT p2=TOPRIGHT x=15 y=0 ssh=OnClick ss=if arg1 ~'''"LeftButton" BToggle33(); else UseAction(33)")`
`02:43.05`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh.`
`02:43.24`	`LaerbeeJo`	`That's what I used in macros ~= for does not equal.`
`02:43.35`	`hyperChipmunk`	`really? didn't know that`
`02:43.35`	`hyperChipmunk`	`=)`
`02:43.46`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Heh, don't mock me! ;)`
`02:44.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`...ssh=OnClick ss=if arg1 ~= 'LeftButton' then BToggle33() else UseAction(33)")`
`02:45.09`	`hyperChipmunk`	`unless ss needs to be a function?`
`02:45.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`if so, then just put ss=function()...end")`
`02:45.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`with the other stuff between`
`02:45.52`	`LaerbeeJo`	`ss=SetScript?`
`02:45.52`	`LaerbeeJo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:45.52`	`LaerbeeJo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:46.02`	`LaerbeeJo`	`THat's what the manual says.`
`02:46.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`~alright`
`02:46.07`	`purl`	`somebody said alright was never all right. All right is two words.`
`02:46.17`	`LaerbeeJo`	`That's correct.`
`02:46.34`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But it's become acceptable to use alright.`
`02:47.06`	`LaerbeeJo`	(`alright' is a nonstandard variant of `all right')
`02:47.23`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But yeah...so doea that mean it needs to be a function?`
`02:47.30`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or is it okay to leave it as-is?`
`02:48.14`	`weab`	`alright is acceptable`
`02:48.45`	`weab`	`alot is not`
`02:49.32`	`Tem`	`LaerbeeJo: you don't need to be "function()...end" around what you had before`
`02:49.42`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Okies, thank you.`
`02:49.52`	`ckknight`	`Juggernaut is a pimp`
`02:50.17`	`Tem`	`Rakel?`
`02:50.25`	`Tem`	`Mr Franklin is lonely`
`02:50.45`	`Tem`	`Rakel: "Sorry daddy..."`
`02:50.50`	`Tem`	`"Sorry daddy?"`
`02:51.04`	`Tem`	`"Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?"`
`02:51.20`	`Tem`	`best episode ever`
`02:55.02`	`kergoth`	`perfectraid kicks so much ass. used it for the first time today`
`02:56.27`	`pagefault`	`I hope it's faster than xraid was`
`02:59.01`	`kergoth`	`its teeeeny compared to every other raid addon`
`02:59.06`	`kergoth`	`minimal interface, just slick`
`03:01.58`	`Tekkub`	`okey stupid question time!`
`03:02.20`	`Tekkub`	`I can't get CorkFu to cast anything, and I think the system thinks there's no hardware event`
`03:02.28`	`Tekkub`	`cause the logic all seems to work`
`03:02.37`	`Tekkub`	`why would it think this, I'm a click-in`
`03:12.04`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Hmm...I can't get this to work.`
`03:12.14`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I keep getting an unexpected symbol error :\`
`03:12.17`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Visor:Do("f=VisorActionButton42 h=FALSE p=VisorActionButton7 pr=VisorActionButton22 p1=TOPLEFT p2=TOPRIGHT x=15 y=0 ssh=OnClick ss=if arg1 ~= 'LeftButton' BToggle42() else UseAction(42)")`
`03:12.54`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Erm, I guess only the ss part was important.`
`03:14.09`	`Tain`	`You need to enclose the ss part in quotes`
`03:14.23`	`Tain`	`So ss=\"if arg1 ... \"`
`03:14.37`	`Tain`	`You need the \ to "escape" the quotes since they're inside anotehr set of quotes.`
`03:15.13`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh.`
`03:15.18`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Okies, thank you.`
`03:15.37`	`Tain`	`Oh or you can use single quotes inside a set of double quotes, like you ahve with 'LeftButton'`
`03:16.04`	`Tain`	`But then I forget what happens when you have quotes inside of quotes inside of quotes.`
`03:16.14`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I'll just escape them. ;)`
`03:18.21`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Visor:Do("f=VisorActionButton42 h=FALSE p=VisorActionButton7 pr=VisorActionButton22 p1=TOPLEFT p2=TOPRIGHT x=15 y=0 ssh=OnClick ss=\"if arg1 ~= 'LeftButton' then BToggle42(); else UseAction(42) end\"")`
`03:18.31`	`LaerbeeJo`	`That's what I have now...but it says I'm still missing an end.`
`03:18.34`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Do I need two?`
`03:18.39`	`LaerbeeJo`	`It works, though.`
`03:18.43`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Just throws the error.`
`03:19.17`	`Tekkub`	`boss, you around?`
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`03:29.22`	`LaerbeeJo`	`When I switched around the ~= for ==, it worked.`
`03:29.23`	`LaerbeeJo`	`YAY!`
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`03:36.38`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, I'm here`
`03:38.14`	`Tekkub`	`Tablet seems to be "eating" the hardware event on clicks`
`03:38.29`	`Tekkub`	`I can't for the life of me get a line to cast a spell when clicked`
`03:45.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Tekkub: you can nest infinitely, I believe`
`03:46.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`re: the quotes`
`03:46.23`	`Tekkub`	`huh?`
`03:46.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`alternating single-double quotes`
`03:46.52`	`Tekkub`	`I don't know, but my method gets called, has the right values, but refuses to cast a spell`
`03:47.11`	`Tekkub`	`when did I talk about quotes?`
`03:47.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`whoops`
`03:47.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Tain`
`03:47.20`	`hyperChipmunk`	`sorry`
`03:47.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`go away, I don't want to talk to you anyway`
`03:56.43`	`Tekkub`	`boss, got another bugger with Tablet, checked icon doesn't resize the background right on a detached tooltip`
`03:56.57`	`Tekkub`	`can give screenie if you need`
`03:58.40`	`Tekkub`	`http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7435/err6ir.jpg`
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`04:08.09`	`ckknight`	`I think it does it on OnMouseUp, not OnClick`
`04:10.24`	`ckknight`	`by the way, it only beeps me when you say ckknight, not when you say boss`
`04:12.52`	`Tekkub`	`bah`
`04:12.58`	`Tekkub`	`what about ckk?`
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`04:13.25`	`Tekkub`	`ckknight,`
`04:13.27`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`04:13.40`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`04:13.55`	`Tekkub`	`anywho, is there some way I can get an override value to make it work with onclicks so it'll cast?`
`04:14.13`	`Tekkub`	`cause NeedList + Tablet == jizz :)`
`04:14.39`	`Tekkub`	`it's like, the perfect medium with clicking a line to cast on thet person`
`04:16.13`	`ckknight`	`I'll make it work with OnClick`
`04:16.23`	`Tekkub`	`(sweets)`
`04:32.54`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Is there a way to say if it's one thing, do this. If it's something else, do nothing.`
`04:33.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`don't make an else`
`04:33.21`	`hyperChipmunk`	`if foo == bar then baz() end`
`04:34.06`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Hmm, it's TTSpellTimers that's throwing the error.`
`04:34.24`	`LaerbeeJo`	`When I click on my backpack button. :\`
`04:35.17`	`hyperChipmunk`	`delete it`
`04:35.21`	`hyperChipmunk`	`problem solved`
`04:35.23`	`ckknight`	`fixed the overlap deal.`
`04:39.23`	`Tekkub`	`god, I'm already proud of Cork's design, and it only works with PW:F so far :)`
`04:39.59`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ha ha`
`04:40.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`what's it do?`
`04:40.19`	`Tekkub`	`NeedyList`
`04:40.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ah`
`04:40.31`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you mean PlayMyClassForMe`
`04:40.38`	`Tekkub`	`but every "need" is a module that maintains it's list of needy units`
`04:41.01`	`Tekkub`	`you know, until you play a class that has to manage buffs, you just just piss off`
`04:41.30`	`Tekkub`	`you just have to deal with you and your pet, but come raidtime you don't even have the pet`
`04:42.11`	`Tekkub`	`but then, you're a PvPer right? they generally hate decursive mods cause it's unfair to them...`
`04:42.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`has nothing to do with pvp or what class I play`
`04:42.52`	`Tekkub`	`but I've not decided if I'm gonna write in decurses or not`
`04:43.31`	`Tekkub`	`how is "show me a list of everyone missing this buff" playing your class for you?`
`04:43.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`nothing wrong with that`
`04:43.47`	`Tekkub`	`it' just the reverse of the "standard" show me everyone with this buff`
`04:43.59`	`Tekkub`	`well that's what this mod does, dickhead :P`
`04:44.15`	`CIA-13`	`03ckknight * r1667 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua:`
`04:44.15`	`CIA-13`	`TabletLib - fixed width issues if a checkmark is present.`
`04:44.15`	`CIA-13`	`clicks now register hardware events.`
`04:44.16`	`ckknight`	`Tekkub, please test`
`04:44.23`	`Tekkub`	`righto, testink`
`04:44.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`from what i got, NeedyList was click-to-cast-the-right-heal-on-the-right-target`
`04:44.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and you'd just spam it and let it make decisions`
`04:45.02`	`Tekkub`	`you should USE a mod before you bitch about it`
`04:45.08`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`04:45.09`	`hyperChipmunk`	`well, I asked what it was`
`04:45.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and that's what you guys told me`
`04:45.27`	`Tekkub`	`needy list shows you who needs buffs, decurses or heals that you can "fulfill"`
`04:45.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and I haven't said anything negative towards it`
`04:45.34`	`Tekkub`	`it makes no decitions for you`
`04:45.41`	`ckknight`	`yes you have, hyperChipmunk`
`04:45.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I suggested a name that seemed good for me`
`04:46.11`	`Tekkub`	`you can set what spell ranks or bandaids each buttonclick does for "Heal"`
`04:46.18`	`Tekkub`	`but it makes no decitions`
`04:46.26`	`Tekkub`	`you pick the unit, you pick the click`
`04:46.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`from what it sounded like, it was pandering to the people who complain on the messageboards every time their precious autoplay mods break`
`04:46.42`	`Tekkub`	`it's just a nice filtered list of "these people need something"`
`04:46.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`nah, that's a good idea`
`04:46.56`	`Tekkub`	`:P`
`04:47.02`	`Tekkub`	`so stop bein a dick`
`04:47.12`	`Tekkub`	`it's not a "one button it thinks for you" mod`
`04:47.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I don't like those people who whine`
`04:47.27`	`Tekkub`	`tho there is a method that will do the top need`
`04:47.32`	`Tekkub`	`same as if you clicked it`
`04:48.00`	`Tekkub`	`the one click sucks anyway`
`04:48.16`	`Tekkub`	`with the list there it's much simpler to look it over and decide who needs what`
`04:48.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`can someone tell me how a repo is added with TortoiseSVN? I'm trying to explain my girlfriend what to do, but I don't have any windows machines in my house`
`04:48.57`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so I'm not sure where to begin =P`
`04:49.12`	`Tekkub`	`whatcha mean?`
`04:49.16`	`Tekkub`	`doing a checkout?`
`04:49.19`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yes`
`04:49.30`	`Tekkub`	`right click in 'splorer`
`04:49.36`	`Tekkub`	`SVN CHeckout`
`04:49.53`	`Tekkub`	`punch in path you want to checkout from and where to...`
`04:50.05`	`Tekkub`	`like...`
`04:50.12`	`Tekkub`	`from: http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/TabletLib`
`04:50.21`	`Tekkub`	`to: C:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\TabletLib`
`04:50.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`alright, cool; thanks =)`
`04:50.43`	`Tekkub`	`after that rcick, update`
`04:50.56`	`Tekkub`	`folder you're chekingout to must be empty too`
`04:50.57`	`ckknight`	`alright, I figured out a general contract system that plugins must provide in order to be part of FuBar`
`04:51.05`	`hyperChipmunk`	`i actually don't think she'll use it to get TabletLib ;)`
`04:51.12`	`Tekkub`	`overlap's fixed bossman`
`04:51.36`	`Tekkub`	`as is the clicking, kick ass`
`04:51.48`	`Tekkub`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:51.52`	`ckknight`	`kinky`
`04:52.07`	`ckknight`	`only works for left click`
`04:52.20`	`Tekkub`	`okey I'm slipping up cork for anyone who's interested to check out... only works for PW:F ATM ^^`
`04:52.36`	`ckknight`	`wtf's PW:F/`
`04:53.48`	`ckknight`	`okay, I figured it out`
`04:55.30`	`CIA-13`	`03tekkub * r1668 10FuBar_CorkFu/ (. Core.lua FuBar_CorkFu.toc Priest/ Priest/PWFort.lua):`
`04:55.30`	`CIA-13`	`FuBar_CorkFu - Initial Submission`
`04:55.30`	`CIA-13`	`- FuBar-ish replacement for NeedyList`
`04:55.30`	`CIA-13`	`- This is a very basic version, work in progress! Only support priest's Power Word: Fortitude right now.`
`04:55.30`	`CIA-13`	`- Requires SpecialEvents (I'm going to convert the Aura module into an embed shortly and remove this dependancy)`
`04:55.32`	`CIA-13`	`- I highly recommend Detached Tooltip mode, you can click to cast on units this way. Clicking the FuBar button will cast the item on the top of the list (also shown on the bar)`
`04:55.32`	`Tekkub`	`:P not a priest either eh?`
`04:55.37`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh, prolly good to delete the bulkmail that you had before`
`04:55.37`	`CIA-13`	`- Stay tuned for more great stuff!`
`04:55.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`mis`
`04:56.09`	`Tekkub`	`I need to get the hubby all converted to new stuff and tort, he's bitchin at me about his addons`
`04:56.18`	`Tekkub`	`bout all he uses is NL anyway`
`04:56.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`NL?`
`04:56.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`sorry, I duno what that is =\`
`04:57.05`	`ckknight`	`needylist`
`04:57.07`	`Tekkub`	`what did you call it? PMCFM`
`04:57.07`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh`
`05:02.00`	`CIA-13`	`03hyperactiveChipmunk * r1669 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua gui.lua):`
`05:02.00`	`CIA-13`	`BulkMail:`
`05:02.00`	`CIA-13`	`- Fixed gui when no items selected`
`05:02.00`	`CIA-13`	`- No longer errors when a button doesn't have a SetButtonState method`
`05:02.14`	`Gngsk`	`What's the name mean?`
`05:07.23`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Is there an event for weapon buffs?`
`05:07.32`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or just the weapon buff frame hiding and showing?`
`05:12.26`	`*** join/#wowace hyperChi1munk (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com)`
`05:12.56`	`hyperChi1munk`	`bleargh`
`05:13.03`	`hyperChi1munk`	`BulkMail:`
`05:13.04`	`hyperChi1munk`	`- Correctly sets postage when the Send Mail tab is first opened and no items are to be AutoSent`
`05:13.07`	`hyperChi1munk`	`whoops`
`05:13.15`	`CIA-13`	`03hyperactiveChipmunk * r1670 10BulkMail/BulkMail.lua:`
`05:13.15`	`CIA-13`	`BulkMail:`
`05:13.15`	`CIA-13`	`- Correctly sets postage when the Send Mail tab is first opened and no items are to be AutoSent`
`05:13.20`	`hyperChi1munk`	`much better =)`
`05:17.33`	`Tekkub`	`yup, Y! has banned antro art, joy`
`05:17.43`	`Tekkub`	`looks for new furry art site`
`05:19.42`	`Gngsk`	`gonna check out corkscrew`
`05:19.50`	`ckknight`	`LaerbeeJo, pretty sure there's an event`
`05:19.56`	`Tekkub`	`it only does PW:F :)`
`05:20.01`	`Gngsk`	`er, corkfu!`
`05:20.14`	`Gngsk`	`yeah, I just wanna see it though!`
`05:20.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it only PlaysAPriestForYou`
`05:20.19`	`Tekkub`	`I'm gonn atry to push out SEEmbed Arua tomorrow and prolly a party/raid roster SE also`
`05:20.25`	`Gngsk`	`so tired of NL, but it's functionality is tough to go without once you've used it`
`05:20.27`	`Tekkub`	`then start working on modules for Cork`
`05:20.52`	`Tekkub`	`yea, I'll prolly aim to port over all the buffs and decurses in NL`
`05:21.02`	`Tekkub`	`do you think I should do healing?`
`05:21.08`	`Gngsk`	`I don't`
`05:21.09`	`Tekkub`	`personally I don't think it belongs`
`05:21.18`	`Tekkub`	`I think PR is better for healing really`
`05:21.30`	`Tekkub`	`I want to manage buffs and such`
`05:21.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`perhaps you're interested in my position on the subject?`
`05:21.53`	`Tekkub`	`I also want to add basic support for scrolls, I never use em when I have em :)`
`05:22.06`	`Gngsk`	`that'd be cool`
`05:22.08`	`Tekkub`	`you're not a healer, why would I be :P`
`05:22.15`	`Tain`	`Scrolls are the great unused resource.`
`05:22.22`	`Tain`	`Except they're not really that great.`
`05:22.24`	`Gngsk`	`I only ever pick up the protection IV scrolls`
`05:22.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`because I have a vested interest in the integrity of the game`
`05:22.36`	`Tekkub`	`mmmmhummm....`
`05:22.42`	`Tekkub`	`translation: nerf it!`
`05:23.05`	`Tekkub`	`chip, I'll be frank`
`05:23.16`	`Tekkub`	`play a healing/buffing class, use NL for a while`
`05:23.23`	`Tekkub`	`if you like NL then put in input`
`05:23.40`	`Tain`	`There's a problem with that logic.`
`05:23.42`	`Tekkub`	`if you're in the "OMGORZ DECURSIVE" camp, meh, just bugger off`
`05:23.45`	`Tain`	`It goes more like this.`
`05:23.55`	`Tain`	`"Play a healing/buffing class"`
`05:24.04`	`Tain`	`"Go to an insane asylum"`
`05:24.05`	`Tekkub`	`Tain: I don't want to go on the whole fucking decursive arguement`
`05:24.07`	`Tain`	`The end.`
`05:24.12`	`Tekkub`	`true`
`05:24.35`	`Tekkub`	`that's half the reason I think a NL-type mod is vital`
`05:24.45`	`Tekkub`	`managing buffs on 40 players blows`
`05:24.55`	`Gngsk`	`even 20`
`05:25.02`	`Tain`	`I suppose someone needs to think of it. My solution is to never play a buffing class again.`
`05:25.16`	`Tekkub`	`pluss I love the "make the frames go away" playstyle, it appeals to my inner minimalist`
`05:25.45`	`Tekkub`	`"GO AWAY!" click "GO AWAY!" click "GO AWAY!" click "GO AWAY!" click`
`05:25.49`	`Tekkub`	`all buffed!`
`05:26.27`	`Tekkub`	`okey, bedtime`
`05:26.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and most priests complain about their class being nothing but glorified whackamole`
`05:26.52`	`Tekkub`	`yup`
`05:26.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Tek revels in it`
`05:27.06`	`Tekkub`	`but well, look at every class really`
`05:27.10`	`Tain`	`I couldn't even deal with summoning food/water as a mage.`
`05:27.11`	`Tekkub`	`prienst :healbot`
`05:27.16`	`Tekkub`	`druid: healbot`
`05:27.23`	`Tekkub`	`warrior: tauntbot`
`05:27.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you don't play pvp, do you`
`05:27.31`	`Tekkub`	`hunter/rogue: DPSbot`
`05:27.39`	`Tekkub`	`no I hate PvP :P`
`05:27.39`	`hyperChipmunk`	`my dps blows =)`
`05:28.01`	`Tekkub`	`lesse what are the others?`
`05:28.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`shaman: ownbot`
`05:28.09`	`Tekkub`	`mage: DPSbot, waterfountain`
`05:28.16`	`Tekkub`	`pally: bubblebot`
`05:28.23`	`Tekkub`	`lock:SSbot`
`05:28.46`	`Tekkub`	`did I miss anyone?`
`05:28.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`gnome:puntbot`
`05:28.58`	`Tekkub`	`gnomes suck`
`05:29.06`	`Tain`	`Of course I played a Shaman in EverQuest, the most buffingest class to ever buff a buff.`
`05:29.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`heh`
`05:29.19`	`Tekkub`	`okey, bedtime fo reals`
`05:29.21`	`Tekkub`	`buhbye`
`05:29.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`EQ is the reason I dislike those mods`
`05:29.33`	`Codayus`	`I'm getting confused by something. What does "this" mean in lua?`
`05:29.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the frame that called the method`
`05:29.41`	`Tekkub`	`this`
`05:29.43`	`Tekkub`	`not self`
`05:29.57`	`Tekkub`	`this is the frame's self`
`05:30.02`	`Tekkub`	`hides`
`05:30.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's what I just said`
`05:30.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but mine wasn't confusing`
`05:30.21`	`hyperChipmunk`	`go to bed`
`05:30.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so if you say, FooFrame:Hide()`
`05:30.33`	`Tekkub`	`this is confusing no matter what`
`05:30.42`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and you have the hide function`
`05:30.56`	`hyperChipmunk`	`which is used to hide all frames`
`05:30.57`	`Tekkub`	`just don't get this and self confused :)`
`05:30.59`	`Tekkub`	`poof`
`05:31.10`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so you need a way to tell the function which frame it's hiding`
`05:31.22`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's what this is`
`05:32.02`	`Codayus`	`Okay, so if I see this:RegisterEvent in an OnLoad function, what would the this be?`
`05:32.07`	`Codayus`	`Sorry for the nub question...`
`05:32.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`registers an event for that frame`
`05:32.35`	`Codayus`	`Hmm...but...which frame...`
`05:32.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the frame whose OnLoad function it is`
`05:33.32`	`Codayus`	`Hmmm. Grrr.`
`05:33.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`what!`
`05:33.59`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you can't have an <OnLoad> all by its lonesome`
`05:34.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it has to be in a <Scripts>`
`05:34.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`which have to be in a <Frame>`
`05:34.39`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that frame is 'this'`
`05:36.14`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh, I got knocked offline`
`05:36.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`did tek ever reply to the question I asked whether those changes fixed the bugs he had?`
`05:40.31`	`*** join/#wowace Qaarh (i=Qaarh@c-931c72d5.029-112-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)`
`05:41.05`	`Qaarh`	`that topic is just slightly disturbing...`
`05:47.15`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`05:53.59`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Can you Visor:Do("hst blah blah")`
`05:54.16`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or does it have to be Visor:Do("f=") stuff`
`05:54.32`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or does Visor:Do just make the LUA stuff think /vz set?`
`06:01.52`	`*** join/#wowace kloppe (n=mroc@h135n1fls31o969.telia.com)`
`06:02.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwowshell.com&langpair=zh-CN%7Cen&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&c2coff=1&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools`
`06:02.57`	`hyperChipmunk`	`check out the hunter sets`
`06:03.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Giantstalkers heehee`
`06:05.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`awesome!`
`06:05.59`	`hyperChipmunk`	`mis`
`06:07.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh, you have to click Comprehensive Information->Occupational Sets`
`06:08.07`	`hyperChipmunk`	`greatest translation ever`
`06:08.14`	`*** join/#wowace Lucen (n=Lucen@pool-68-237-251-68.ny325.east.verizon.net)`
`06:09.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Giantstalker Armor translates to 'Success of the Wang'`
`06:11.49`	`haste`	`Ten Storms -> Endless turmoil`
`06:12.37`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Arcanist --> Austrian Games Divison`
`06:12.39`	`hyperChipmunk`	`wtf`
`06:13.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Dragonstalker's Greaves -> 'A Long persons lower part of leg drive'`
`06:16.37`	`*** join/#wowace [MoonWolf] (n=MoonWolf@a80-127-128-193.adsl.xs4all.nl)`
`06:16.37`	`*** mode/#wowace [+o [MoonWolf]] by ChanServ`
`06:17.07`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I'm scared to click on '5 minutes love Moshou'`
`06:28.04`	`ckknight`	`ouchies.`
`06:28.15`	`[MoonWolf]`	`mode [MoonWolf] +w`
`06:28.30`	`[MoonWolf]`	`there should have been a slash there.`
`06:28.31`	`ckknight`	`I just burned the left side of my chest`
`06:28.32`	`ckknight`	`it hurts`
`06:28.51`	`[MoonWolf]`	`what did ?`
`06:29.01`	`ckknight`	`hot soup`
`06:29.17`	`ckknight`	`like fresh from the stove boiling`
`06:30.18`	`[MoonWolf]`	`ouch`
`06:30.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`get somewith cold and apply`
`06:30.59`	`ckknight`	`frozen peas`
`06:39.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/images/wallpapers/bloodelf_vs_draenei/bloodelf_vs_draenei-1600x.jpg <---emo rogue elf; look at the inside of her thigh =x`
`06:40.10`	`hyperChipmunk`	`either that, or she's having troubles with her armor...which I guess would be understandable`
`06:40.35`	`[MoonWolf]`	`or maybe she needed blood for some weird bloodelf spell`
`06:40.37`	`[MoonWolf]`	`you never know`
`06:40.48`	`Gngsk`	`well, her opponent is a paladin`
`06:40.48`	`[MoonWolf]`	`armor could also be it`
`06:40.52`	`Gngsk`	`so that's prolly the only wounds he's afflicted`
`06:40.57`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I mean, get your legs close enough and you have meatloaf.`
`06:58.07`	`*** join/#wowace Wobin_ (n=Wobin@221.221.23.122)`
`07:05.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Hmm, so I just ran across Visor:DoUnSwap() and Visor:SetupSwap()`
`07:06.03`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Do they still work?`
`07:06.20`	`LaerbeeJo`	`And how do you put the info in the ()?`
`07:08.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`made another commit`
`07:08.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`mis`
`07:08.04`	`CIA-13`	`03hyperactiveChipmunk * r1671 10BulkMail/gui.lua:`
`07:08.04`	`CIA-13`	`BulkMail:`
`07:08.05`	`CIA-13`	`- Clicking on an item in the gui list will now properly open the item's tooltip display, rather than belching an error`
`07:08.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`CIA can tell ya that ;)`
`07:14.59`	`CIA-13`	`03hyperactiveChipmunk * r1672 10BulkMail/gui.lua:`
`07:14.59`	`CIA-13`	`BulkMail:`
`07:14.59`	`CIA-13`	`- Shift-clicking an item in the gui listbox after already Ctrl-clicking it to display in the dressup window no longer errors...I think...actually, I have no idea what caused this or why what I did fixed it, but it did.`
`07:16.59`	`Gngsk`	`heh`
`07:36.44`	`*** join/#wowace FryGuy- (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`07:39.19`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Visor:Do("f=VisorActionButton62 evt=PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED ssh=OnEvent ss=\"if (UnitIsFriend(\"player\" \"target\")) then Visor:Do(\"hsf=52-56 hst=62-66\") elseif (not UnitIsFriend(\"player\" \"target\")) then Visor:Do(\"uns=52-66\") end\"")`
`07:39.41`	`LaerbeeJo`	`It keeps telling me I have an unfinished string near <eof>...`
`07:40.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`alternate single and double quotes; it's easier to keep track of than escaped ones`
`07:40.14`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I just want it to remap those buttons if I am targeting someone friendly and go back if they are hostile.`
`07:40.26`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh, I can do that?`
`07:40.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea`
`07:40.38`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Okay, I'll fix that.`
`07:40.51`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Do you think that will get rid of the string problem?`
`07:41.15`	`LaerbeeJo`	`And is PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED the best way to tell if I've targeted a friendly/hostile mob?`
`07:41.22`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it'll make it easier to track down`
`07:41.26`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Okay.`
`07:41.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`because you'll have an odd number of one`
`07:41.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`or both`
`07:41.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and it'll make it pretty obvious`
`07:42.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`since they should be in pairs`
`07:42.37`	`hyperChipmunk`	`night, folks`
`07:42.51`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`and er`
`07:42.54`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`yea I guess so`
`07:43.02`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`re: PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED`
`07:43.11`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Okay, thank you very much.`
`07:43.20`	`LaerbeeJo`	`<3 You're always really helpful.`
`07:43.30`	`Wobin_`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9rzMaAucI4`
`07:43.51`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`you forgot the comma between 'player' and 'target' in UnitIsFriend`
`07:44.10`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh.`
`07:44.11`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Ha!`
`07:44.16`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`I bet that's why your string got fubared too`
`07:44.33`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`or you might have mismatched quotes`
`07:44.49`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`I'm too tired to keep track of those atm though =P`
`07:45.03`	`LaerbeeJo`	`The quotes were good.`
`07:45.07`	`LaerbeeJo`	`It must be the comma.`
`07:45.52`	`LaerbeeJo`	`And does the not go inside () with UnitIsFriend or no?`
`07:46.20`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`UnitIsFriend('player', 'target')`
`07:46.41`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`oh, the not`
`07:46.43`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`um`
`07:46.47`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I just took it out.`
`07:46.50`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`doesn't matter`
`07:47.00`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`those ones outside are superflous anyway`
`07:47.16`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I just said else do the other thing.`
`07:47.23`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`elseif not UnitIsFriend('player', target') then`
`07:47.26`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`works just fine`
`07:47.53`	`LaerbeeJo`	`UGH!`
`07:47.54`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`that's good too`
`07:48.01`	`LaerbeeJo`	`It tells me ) is missing by player.`
`07:48.14`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Visor:Do("f=VisorActionButton62 evt=PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED ssh=OnEvent ss='if UnitIsFriend("player", "target") then Visor:Do("hsf=52-56 hst=62-66") else Visor:Do("uns=52-66") end'")`
`07:50.21`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`you sure? =P`
`07:51.18`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Am I sure it's telling me that?`
`07:51.20`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or...`
`07:51.25`	`ckknight`	`I know the issues`
`07:51.28`	`ckknight`	`you're missing backslashes`
`07:51.39`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`lol`
`07:51.41`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`i just had her take 'em out`
`07:51.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Chip said I could alternate double and single, yeah.`
`07:51.55`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`ok, put 'em back in`
`07:51.59`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`yea, but I'm tired`
`07:52.04`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`you shouldn't listen to me`
`07:52.05`	`ckknight`	`Visor:Do("f=VisorActionButton62 evt=PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED ssh=OnEvent ss='if UnitIsFriend(\"player\", \"target\") then Visor:Do(\"hsf=52-56 hst=62-66\") else Visor:Do(\"uns=52-66\") end'")`
`07:52.12`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Heh, all right. <3`
`07:52.19`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Go to sleep, tired Chippy.`
`07:52.24`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I'll harrass someone else. ;)`
`07:52.28`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`I wanna see this work first`
`07:52.32`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Heh, okay.`
`07:52.45`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Did I mention I got my backpack to show and hide the other bags on right click?`
`07:52.48`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`that ought to wrok though`
`07:52.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I felt uber smart.`
`07:52.52`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`cool`
`07:53.14`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`It looked fine otherwise, so with the \ it should be good`
`07:53.21`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`syntax-wise at least`
`07:53.43`	`*** join/#wowace Gngsk (n=gngsk@c-68-33-204-115.hsd1.md.comcast.net)`
`07:55.03`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Now it's back telling me unfinished string near <eof>`
`07:55.08`	`LaerbeeJo`	`What IS an <eof>??`
`07:55.53`	`Gngsk`	`end of file`
`07:55.59`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Visor:Do("f=VisorActionButton62 evt=PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED ssh=OnEvent ss=\"if UnitIsFriend(\"player\", \"target\") then Visor:Do(\"hsf=52-56 hst=62-66\") else Visor:Do(\"uns=52-66\") end\"")`
`07:56.04`	`LaerbeeJo`	`That's what it looks like now.`
`07:56.04`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh.`
`07:56.12`	`Codayus`	`LaerbeeJo: Basically, it means it ran out of script before it saw an end quote.`
`07:56.37`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Hmm...I have all the quotes matched, as far as I can see.`
`07:57.06`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Does the evt need "" around it?`
`07:57.37`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Hmm, not from the other examples I've seen.`
`07:58.04`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`it's all your fault`
`07:58.06`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`zzzzzzz`
`07:59.01`	`LaerbeeJo`	`It IS all my fault!`
`07:59.03`	`LaerbeeJo`	`cry`
`07:59.13`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I stay up too late and don't brush my hair.`
`08:00.51`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, let me see...`
`08:03.46`	`Codayus`	`But....that script is fine.`
`08:04.01`	`LaerbeeJo`	`That's what I thought.`
`08:04.28`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But every time I click on a button in that group, I get the error about an unfinished string near <eof>`
`08:04.28`	`Codayus`	`No, I mean, I tried it and it didn't give an erro.`
`08:06.18`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh.`
`08:06.20`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Hmm.`
`08:06.22`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Sec then.`
`08:08.29`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Crazy.`
`08:08.40`	`LaerbeeJo`	`The error must have been stuck in WoW somehow.`
`08:10.23`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`08:10.27`	`ckknight`	`I need a hairbrush`
`08:10.57`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I have one right here.`
`08:11.00`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But I won't use it.`
`08:11.03`	`ckknight`	`well I don't`
`08:11.10`	`ckknight`	`I don't even have a comb :-P`
`08:11.34`	`ckknight`	`my hair is reasonably long, too`
`08:11.38`	`LaerbeeJo`	`So, PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED returns nil if there is no target...`
`08:11.39`	`ckknight`	`so it's a tough situation`
`08:11.47`	`LaerbeeJo`	`How do I use that to make my little button bar hide?`
`08:11.52`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I have kinda short hair.`
`08:12.05`	`ckknight`	`mine's a little past my shoulders`
`08:12.10`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh, longer than mine.`
`08:12.27`	`ckknight`	`you check if arg1 is nil`
`08:12.32`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Ah.`
`08:12.32`	`ckknight`	`if it is, hide, if it isn't, show`
`08:12.36`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Saweeet.`
`08:12.43`	`ckknight`	`my guess`
`08:12.45`	`LaerbeeJo`	`<3 You make FuBar AND give me help.`
`08:12.47`	`ckknight`	`that is, if arg1 has something`
`08:12.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`You are lovely beyond words.`
`08:12.57`	`ckknight`	`ah, there's word`
`08:12.59`	`ckknight`	`words*`
`08:13.05`	`ckknight`	`example: "pimp"`
`08:13.39`	`ckknight`	`X-men shows are only 18 minutes each, if you don't count the starting credits`
`08:13.48`	`ckknight`	`I'm watching a lot right now.`
`08:14.50`	`ckknight`	`shows involving superheroes really need a better philosophical argument regarding supervillians`
`08:15.09`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I like XMen.`
`08:15.39`	`ckknight`	`I have the whole original cartoon series`
`08:15.42`	`ckknight`	`5 seasons`
`08:16.00`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oooh, I LOVED that when I was younger.`
`08:16.04`	`ckknight`	`yea, me too`
`08:16.19`	`ckknight`	`great to reminesce`
`08:18.37`	`Gngsk`	`ahh, the good old days`
`08:18.48`	`Gngsk`	`I prefered the ninja turtles`
`08:19.19`	`ckknight`	`I never watched much of TMNT`
`08:20.46`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I did.`
`08:20.51`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I watched all the cartoons.`
`08:21.02`	`ckknight`	`I think it may have been before my time`
`08:21.05`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Thundercats was my fave, though, once I was older.`
`08:21.58`	`[MoonWolf]`	`im a super villian, therefor I will create a brawl on the corner of the street`
`08:21.59`	`LaerbeeJo`	`All the way through kindergarten and first grade, I wanted to be Lion-O.`
`08:22.15`	`ckknight`	`what year was that?`
`08:22.25`	`ckknight`	`No matter what season of X-men, Jubilee never grows up, and she's still just as lame and annoying`
`08:22.42`	`LaerbeeJo`	`What year was what?`
`08:22.48`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and she never has anything better then fireworks`
`08:22.50`	`ckknight`	`Thundercats`
`08:22.53`	`LaerbeeJo`	`1985.`
`08:22.57`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`08:22.58`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`08:22.59`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Same year I started kindergarten.`
`08:23.00`	`ckknight`	`before my time`
`08:23.01`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`08:23.03`	`LaerbeeJo`	`OMG, what/`
`08:23.06`	`LaerbeeJo`	`feels SO old`
`08:23.07`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I mean, you would think that after 30 years of training she would figure out how to effectivly DO something with that.`
`08:23.11`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`08:23.17`	`ckknight`	`you're hardly old`
`08:23.32`	`[MoonWolf]`	`but he feels old.`
`08:23.37`	`ckknight`	`(she)`
`08:23.48`	`[MoonWolf]`	`she he he she, its the internet what does it matter.`
`08:24.01`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I could be a she for all you know.`
`08:24.04`	`ckknight`	`everyone's a transsexual to me`
`08:24.09`	`ckknight`	`until I get more information`
`08:24.12`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I realized when I turned 25 that it was all over.`
`08:24.18`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I was old and I should just give it up. ;)`
`08:24.22`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lol`
`08:24.44`	`ckknight`	`LaerbeeJo, I pretend to be older to such a point that I often forget my real age`
`08:25.31`	`LaerbeeJo`	`sniffle It won't help. It's hopeless now.`
`08:25.39`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Ugh, arg1 doesn't work.`
`08:25.47`	`ckknight`	`UnitExists("target")`
`08:26.00`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oooh, yes.`
`08:26.03`	`LaerbeeJo`	`loves`
`08:26.19`	`ckknight`	`I have so many internet lovers...`
`08:26.22`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lol`
`08:26.30`	`[MoonWolf]`	`how can you target something that does not exist....`
`08:26.50`	`ckknight`	`if UnitExists("target") is nil, then you have no target`
`08:26.51`	`ckknight`	`tada.`
`08:27.04`	`[MoonWolf]`	`but still`
`08:27.08`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Well, I'm the only one who doesn't brush her hair.`
`08:27.16`	`ckknight`	`I don't brush my hair`
`08:27.32`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I dont brush my hair, on the other hands its only like 1 cm.`
`08:27.45`	`[MoonWolf]`	`s/and/and/`
`08:27.54`	`[MoonWolf]`	`damnti wrong slashes.`
`08:28.35`	`ckknight`	`thing is, I should brush my hair`
`08:29.02`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lazy bum`
`08:29.08`	`ckknight`	`I have no brush`
`08:29.10`	`ckknight`	`I already said`
`08:29.36`	`ckknight`	`ever watch Gargoyles?`
`08:29.37`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Where did it go?`
`08:29.40`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Heh, yes.`
`08:29.47`	`ckknight`	`I never got one, I merely just grew my hair out`
`08:29.47`	`[MoonWolf]`	`gargoyles`
`08:29.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I didn't like that one as much, 'cause I was pretty old when it came out.`
`08:29.51`	`[MoonWolf]`	`a fe episodes.`
`08:29.52`	`ckknight`	`Gargoyles = awesome.`
`08:29.58`	`ckknight`	`that was my generation`
`08:30.00`	`ckknight`	`I think`
`08:30.05`	`LaerbeeJo`	`That's because you're my son's age. sob`
`08:30.06`	`ckknight`	`1995-1997`
`08:30.10`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh.`
`08:30.10`	`ckknight`	`I'm 18`
`08:30.11`	`[MoonWolf]`	`heh`
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`08:30.19`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Well, only ten years older!`
`08:30.25`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Practically the same thing!`
`08:30.29`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I loved transformers:beastwars.`
`08:30.30`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`08:30.34`	`LaerbeeJo`	`OMG, ME TOO!`
`08:30.41`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Opimus Primal was SO cool.`
`08:30.42`	`[MoonWolf]`	`geek`
`08:30.45`	`ckknight`	`more than meats the eye.`
`08:30.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Everyone else made fun of me.`
`08:30.50`	`ckknight`	`err, meets*`
`08:31.02`	`ckknight`	`Optimus Prime's a Jew.`
`08:31.09`	`LaerbeeJo`	`gasp`
`08:31.18`	`[MoonWolf]`	`optimus primal was like eeeuh. the grissom of transformers.`
`08:31.20`	`ckknight`	`you never saw that Family Guy?`
`08:31.46`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Heh, yes I did.`
`08:31.53`	`LaerbeeJo`	`That's why I started singing that song.`
`08:31.54`	`ckknight`	`then why'd you gasp?`
`08:32.12`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Because it made me gasp in the show too.`
`08:32.16`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Then I laughed.`
`08:32.17`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`08:32.21`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I just wasn't expecting it.`
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`08:34.41`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Aww, yeah!`
`08:34.46`	`LaerbeeJo`	`You fixed it for me!`
`08:34.51`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Yaaaaayz0rz!`
`08:38.29`	`ckknight`	`hoorah.`
`08:41.12`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Sad, I'd found this neato post for making a new keybinding to move a button to your mouse and now I've lost it again.`
`08:43.21`	`ckknight`	`button:ClearAllPoints() button:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", UIParent, "BOTTOMLEFT", GetCursorPosition())`
`08:43.27`	`ckknight`	`give or take`
`08:44.18`	`Wobin_`	`nah, there's a visor command to do it`
`08:44.23`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`08:44.27`	`ckknight`	`I don't use visor`
`08:44.30`	`Wobin_`	`it should actually be a keybinding in the keybinding menu`
`08:44.44`	`Wobin_`	`I think it's c=true`
`08:44.56`	`Wobin_`	`ie /vz set f=Womble c=true`
`08:45.00`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Well, this was a commmand she put in the bindings.xml file and it worked on just that group.`
`08:45.25`	`LaerbeeJo`	`It is that command, but the part I don't know about is all the <bindings> </bindings> or whatever tags.`
`08:45.35`	`Wobin_`	`As long as the focus was on the main parent (that all the other buttons were parented to, that would move the whole group`
`08:54.49`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Do you guys know if there are still only three forms for button swapping?`
`08:54.59`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or did moonkin add a fourth?`
`09:02.35`	`[Ammo]`	`morning`
`09:04.13`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Good morning.`
`09:04.46`	`LaerbeeJo`	`So is there an event that happens when a frame appears?`
`09:08.50`	`ckknight`	`not that I know of`
`09:08.52`	`ckknight`	`hey [Ammo]`
`09:09.26`	`Industrial`	`morning`
`09:09.28`	`Industrial`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z34JYwNGFtw`
`09:09.29`	`Industrial`	`;o`
`09:10.00`	`LaerbeeJo`	`So how do you show/hide a button based on weapon buffs or tracking abilities?`
`09:10.57`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I only knew to have it show or hide on whether the frames were visible.`
`09:11.33`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But I don't know how to put that in a Visor button script 'cause you need an event or something.`
`09:12.10`	`LaerbeeJo`	`ssh=?`
`09:12.19`	`LaerbeeJo`	`And good morning, Indie.`
`09:16.49`	`Wobin_`	`You'll have to use AuraScan I think`
`09:17.38`	`Wobin_`	`although I'm not sure of the strings you'll have to check for`
`09:18.25`	`haste`	`so... tired...`
`09:18.28`	`haste`	`so.... hot....`
`09:18.35`	`haste`	`walking for 40min is this heat = phew`
`09:19.33`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Yuck, I hate walking.`
`09:19.47`	`haste`	`I have nothing against walking`
`09:19.55`	`haste`	`it owns when it rains <3`
`09:22.40`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Basically, I just want to do if MinimapTrackingFrame:IsVisible() then VisorActionButton67:VisorHide() else VisorActionButton67:VisorShow()`
`09:23.02`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But how do I get that in the ss= of my button?`
`09:23.10`	`LaerbeeJo`	`That's where I'm getting lost.`
`09:23.13`	`LaerbeeJo`	`There MUST be away.`
`09:23.17`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Err, a way.`
`09:23.25`	`Industrial`	`stop using the script handlers and use lua instead`
`09:23.26`	`haste`	`no idea, I don't use Visor for buttons :<`
`09:23.53`	`LaerbeeJo`	`But I don't know what event to have that run on.`
`09:24.04`	`LaerbeeJo`	`So that it keeps happening...`
`09:25.44`	`LaerbeeJo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:26.18`	`Wobin_`	`er.`
`09:26.29`	`Wobin_`	`Why not just have that in your hunter's profile?`
`09:26.35`	`Wobin_`	`or whatever's profile`
`09:26.39`	`Wobin_`	`as always visible`
`09:26.51`	`Wobin_`	`Rather than checking if the tracking frame is there`
`09:27.55`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Because then I never have my tracking ability on.`
`09:57.20`	`LaerbeeJo`	`All right, chillens...I'm going to bed.`
`09:57.21`	`LaerbeeJo`	`<3`
`09:57.25`	`LaerbeeJo`	`My man is calling me.`
`09:57.30`	`LaerbeeJo`	`wave`
`10:01.32`	`Industrial`	`:o`
`10:01.43`	`Industrial`	`another girl! that makes um, 3`
`10:01.44`	`Industrial`	`?`
`10:03.02`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`yeah who else?`
`10:03.06`	`Wobin_`	`Cairenn`
`10:03.14`	`Wobin_`	`And...`
`10:03.34`	`Wobin_`	`Silver`
`10:03.50`	`Industrial`	`i thought beladona was a chick >_>`
`10:04.08`	`Wobin_`	`I don't think so =)`
`10:04.16`	`Wobin_`	`Despite the name`
`10:04.30`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`10:05.16`	`Gngsk`	`hmm`
`10:05.22`	`Gngsk`	`tekkub has a man, but isn't a girl`
`10:07.02`	`Wobin_`	`So does Clad`
`10:07.06`	`Industrial`	<Tekkub> id`, you are a dick
`10:07.14`	`Industrial`	`<Tekkub> but i like dick..`
`10:07.15`	`Gngsk`	`hehe`
`10:07.16`	`Wobin_`	`That means he likes you =)`
`10:07.20`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`10:07.25`	`Industrial`	`oh oh and this one`
`10:07.33`	`Industrial`	`* haste pats Tekkub`
`10:07.37`	`Industrial`	`<Tekkub> lower`
`10:07.40`	`Industrial`	`<haste> no....`
`10:07.43`	`haste`	`haha :p`
`10:07.46`	`Industrial`	`xD`
`10:07.54`	`Wobin_`	`hehe Tekk's our furry pervert mascot`
`10:08.10`	`ckknight`	`mascot?`
`10:08.16`	`Industrial`	`(i keep a quote database :P)`
`10:08.50`	`haste`	`Industrial: SHARE!!!`
`10:08.54`	`haste`	`or maybe I should make one :OOOO`
`10:08.57`	`haste`	`ponders`
`10:09.14`	`Industrial`	`im poking around with django, a python web framework`
`10:09.20`	`Industrial`	`maybe ill make one`
`10:09.24`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`10:09.33`	`Wobin_`	`Well, mascot in the sense that he's always around to bring the conversation down to the gutter =)`
`10:11.13`	`ckknight`	`Django looks pretty cool`
`10:11.20`	`ckknight`	`but I have nothing to make...`
`10:11.38`	`haste`	`I learned somethnig new today!`
`10:11.38`	`haste`	`yay`
`10:11.46`	`haste`	`#123 = #112233 :)`
`10:12.11`	`ckknight`	`you didn't know?`
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`10:12.29`	`ckknight`	`hey banditron_`
`10:12.39`	`haste`	`I thought it was #123123 actually :p`
`10:13.14`	`Wobin_`	`?`
`10:13.32`	`Industrial`	`haste: with css?`
`10:13.42`	`ckknight`	`#123123 would make no sense, imho`
`10:14.14`	`haste`	`I agree, which is why I never used it`
`10:14.45`	`haste`	`well, you learn as you live`
`10:31.11`	`[Ammo]`	`haste: the oRA_Core:Error() function contains an error :)`
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`10:31.37`	`[Ammo]`	`you can relpicate the error by: /ora standby`
`10:31.38`	`haste`	`haha, how ironic :p`
`10:31.49`	`[Ammo]`	`and then: /ora rs toggle`
`10:31.54`	`[Ammo]`	`I think the body of the fucntion should be: self.cmd:result(ORA_CORE_MSG_COLOR, format(unpack(arg)))`
`10:32.00`	`[Ammo]`	`that would do the trick`
`10:32.09`	`[Ammo]`	`anyway, lunchtime`
`10:32.31`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`those sons of bitches call the new race Draenei`
`10:32.59`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`ah i see hey evolved`
`10:51.02`	`Wobin_`	`Meh`
`10:51.14`	`Wobin_`	`Remind me next time to buy vegetable on ease of preparation =P`
`10:51.31`	`Wobin_`	`I just spent the last half hour chopping`
`11:04.19`	`CIA-13`	`03handdol * r1673 10BigWigs/Other/ (Azuregos.lua Emeriss.lua):`
`11:04.19`	`CIA-13`	`BigWigs`
`11:04.19`	`CIA-13`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`12:02.24`	`haste`	`wee`
`12:02.27`	`haste`	`finally font settings!`
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`12:08.22`	`[MoonWolf]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:08.40`	`haste`	`oh noes!`
`12:08.49`	`Industrial`	`"YOU HAVE TO HELP ME< ITS NOT WORKING"`
`12:09.15`	`Industrial`	`"IT ATE MY PENCIL!"`
`12:09.23`	`Industrial`	`"WHERE IS THE ANY KEY?!"`
`12:09.29`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`12:09.42`	`[MoonWolf]`	`my printer isnt work, what icon is blinking, none are.... is it ON? .... click`
`12:12.27`	`haste`	`np: Nine Inch Nails - All The Love In The World [5:15]`
`12:12.35`	`haste`	`the end of that song is sweet :D`
`12:14.37`	`CIA-13`	`03ammo * r1674 10oRA_Assist/oRA_Assist.lua: oRA_Assist: Fixed Disable() it tried to unregister events as if they were shorthands.`
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`12:15.59`	`haste`	`[Ammo]: I noticed that also, just before I crashed a couple of secs ago`
`12:16.09`	`haste`	`I blame tired mode.`
`12:16.44`	`CIA-13`	`03ammo * r1675 10oRA/oRA_Core.lua: oRA: Fixed the Error() function.`
`12:16.52`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`12:17.10`	`[Ammo]`	`just cleaning up some small junk`
`12:17.25`	`haste`	`I`
`12:17.31`	`[Ammo]`	`working on a cleaner UI atm, and testing some differnet things so I ran into some bugs :)`
`12:17.38`	`haste`	`I'm trying to consentrate on my work right now :p`
`12:17.44`	`haste`	`but it's SO hard :p`
`12:17.50`	`[Ammo]`	`i tried to concentrate on work`
`12:17.56`	`[Ammo]`	`but took a 30 minute break`
`12:18.18`	`haste`	`hehe`
`12:18.39`	`[Ammo]`	`mind if I adjust the .xml of most of the oRA modules to reflect your new layout for the ready frames?`
`12:18.54`	`[Ammo]`	`I'll start with the ready module ofcourse`
`12:18.55`	`haste`	`nah, improvements are always welcome`
`12:19.03`	`[Ammo]`	`they look so much better in that new layout`
`12:19.05`	`haste`	`use the gray buttons on the ready check tho' :p`
`12:19.09`	`[Ammo]`	`why?`
`12:19.21`	`haste`	`I want it to be easy to see the difference`
`12:19.24`	`[Ammo]`	`hmm`
`12:19.33`	`[Ammo]`	`well the buttons say: Ready / Not Ready`
`12:19.38`	`[Ammo]`	`and the vote ones say: Yes / NO`
`12:19.42`	`haste`	`trust me, it isn't enough :p`
`12:19.58`	`[Ammo]`	`Maybe restyle the buttons completely`
`12:20.21`	`haste`	`how?`
`12:20.30`	`[Ammo]`	`by not using the silly blizz textures`
`12:20.35`	`[Ammo]`	`make them shiny and new`
`12:20.45`	`haste`	`I can't do shit when it comes to design :D`
`12:20.49`	`[Ammo]`	`me neither :)`
`12:20.57`	`[Ammo]`	`but the gray looks fugly`
`12:21.00`	`haste`	`I can't ask an artist in my guild tho'`
`12:21.38`	`Industrial`	`screenshot?`
`12:21.49`	`[Ammo]`	`haste has some screenshot up somewhere`
`12:21.57`	`haste`	`give me a sec`
`12:22.07`	`[Ammo]`	`gray has this 'disabled' feel about it`
`12:22.07`	`Industrial`	`sure`
`12:22.08`	`Industrial`	`;p`
`12:22.10`	`haste`	`http://www.fuxsake.net/images/games/wow/oRA_Ready.png`
`12:22.48`	`haste`	`ignore the errors on the ready frame :p`
`12:23.01`	`Industrial`	`so`
`12:23.03`	`Industrial`	`whats wrong?`
`12:23.15`	`[Ammo]`	`check the diff between the ready and the vote frame`
`12:23.16`	`haste`	`Raidleader has requested a vote.`
`12:23.25`	`Industrial`	`yeah`
`12:23.29`	`Industrial`	`use the red...`
`12:23.39`	`haste`	`and it says Yes / No, instead of Ready / Not ready`
`12:23.44`	`[Ammo]`	`if I see this I think the ready frame has the buttons disabled`
`12:23.55`	`[Ammo]`	`at least that's my first impression`
`12:24.06`	`haste`	`but the highlight should change that?`
`12:24.14`	`[Ammo]`	`not really`
`12:24.20`	`haste`	`damn`
`12:24.31`	`Industrial`	`go with red buttons`
`12:24.35`	`haste`	`but the red buttons are fugly! :p`
`12:24.39`	`haste`	`or.. fuglier`
`12:24.47`	`Industrial`	`well poo they are 'common'`
`12:24.52`	`Industrial`	`or amke your own`
`12:24.54`	`[Ammo]`	`what Id says`
`12:24.54`	`Industrial`	`make*`
`12:24.57`	`haste`	`I can't :p`
`12:25.10`	`haste`	`time to torture a certain drawer!`
`12:25.24`	`Industrial`	`I NEED YESNO BUTTONZ KTHX PLZ`
`12:25.40`	`haste`	`it was more like: You still want to make some buttons?`
`12:25.41`	`[Ammo]`	`I hope the guy that made the maintank add/remove UI releases his code`
`12:26.15`	`[Ammo]`	`and adds it to oRA_MainTank`
`12:26.24`	`[Ammo]`	`it's very useful :)`
`12:26.28`	`haste`	`yeh`
`12:27.04`	`[Ammo]`	`I've been pondering on an oRA_GUI mod`
`12:27.08`	`[Ammo]`	`module even`
`12:27.19`	`Industrial`	`question; do shaman totems stack? (if you have more then one shaman)`
`12:27.20`	`haste`	`keep pondering and complete it ;)`
`12:27.25`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe`
`12:27.28`	`haste`	`they don't Industrial`
`12:27.31`	`[Ammo]`	`but first the styling of the others needs fixing`
`12:27.38`	`[Ammo]`	`make it less archaic and CTRA style`
`12:27.40`	`haste`	`same totem doesn't stack, but same totem type does stack`
`12:27.41`	`[Ammo]`	`make it purty`
`12:27.48`	`haste`	`aye`
`12:27.57`	`Industrial`	`would that be a nice thing for oRA or something? for shamans to know who has wich totem up so you can do another one for the whole group?`
`12:28.04`	`Industrial`	`i dunno caus eim not into raiding.. just a thought`
`12:28.10`	`[Ammo]`	`naah not needed`
`12:28.15`	`[Ammo]`	`since Totems are groupbased`
`12:28.17`	`[Ammo]`	`not raidbased`
`12:28.23`	`haste`	`totems suck :(`
`12:28.32`	`haste`	`and they didn't fix it in 1.11 it seems :p`
`12:28.36`	`[Ammo]`	`if you can't communicate with 5 people you shouldn't be allowed in a social environment`
`12:28.39`	`haste`	`which was the only concern I had`
`12:28.41`	`Thiana`	`Totems are great! (at causing wipes ;)`
`12:28.54`	`[Ammo]`	`I know nothing about totems :)`
`12:28.56`	`Industrial`	`http://www.fuxsake.net/images/lol.gif`
`12:28.57`	`Industrial`	`lol`
`12:28.59`	`[Ammo]`	`just how to target them and kill them`
`12:29.20`	`haste`	`wtf Industrial`
`12:29.23`	`[Ammo]`	`btw haste`
`12:29.30`	`haste`	`you find stuff I can't remember even :p`
`12:29.32`	`[Ammo]`	`how did the /ora maintank refresh command got lost?`
`12:29.40`	`[Ammo]`	`I remember it being there to refresh the mt lists of other mods`
`12:29.45`	`[Ammo]`	`but it's gone from the SVN version`
`12:29.57`	`Industrial`	`LOL`
`12:29.59`	`Industrial`	`http://www.fuxsake.net/images/nix/2006-02-07-145830_1280x1024_scrot.png`
`12:30.03`	`Industrial`	`night of faiiiahhh`
`12:30.05`	`haste`	`/ora maintank list`
`12:30.05`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`12:30.14`	`[Ammo]`	`does that refresh it?`
`12:30.29`	`haste`	`if you want to refresh it use /ora request :o`
`12:30.52`	`[Ammo]`	`there used to be a refresh command`
`12:30.59`	`haste`	`it was the same as request`
`12:31.01`	`[Ammo]`	`that sent ora's known list to your other mods`
`12:31.03`	`[Ammo]`	`ah`
`12:31.04`	`[Ammo]`	`ok`
`12:31.09`	`haste`	`oh the known list`
`12:31.11`	`haste`	`it's still there`
`12:31.15`	`haste`	`/ora maintank list :)`
`12:31.18`	`[Ammo]`	`meh`
`12:31.24`	`[Ammo]`	`it used to be /ora maintank refresh`
`12:31.27`	`[Ammo]`	`but anyway`
`12:31.29`	`[Ammo]`	`thanks ;)`
`12:31.33`	`haste`	`that's a long time ago :p`
`12:31.36`	`[Ammo]`	`it is`
`12:31.53`	`[Ammo]`	`I just hope andreasg hurries up with MT support in mg2`
`12:32.03`	`[Ammo]`	`so I can ditch the fugly oRA_MainTankFrames :)`
`12:32.03`	`haste`	`Industrial: and yes, that song owns`
`12:32.12`	`haste`	`I use PRT :p`
`12:32.16`	`[Ammo]`	`I stopped using prt`
`12:32.23`	`haste`	`even tho' it ALMOST crashes my client on some encounters`
`12:32.26`	`[Ammo]`	`PRT -> hangups at razorgore`
`12:32.36`	`haste`	`like razoregor and trash clean up on Fankriss`
`12:32.40`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`12:32.43`	`[Ammo]`	`too many targets`
`12:32.52`	`haste`	`I get ~30 fps on Razorgor with PRT :p`
`12:32.56`	`haste`	`so I'm happy`
`12:33.07`	`[Ammo]`	`I think what happens is it doesn't get done parsing all the targets during 1 update cycle`
`12:33.10`	`[Ammo]`	`so the next update hits`
`12:33.20`	`[Ammo]`	`while it's still cycling the first`
`12:33.21`	`[Ammo]`	`and it gets slower and slower and slower`
`12:33.29`	`[Ammo]`	`untill it hangs the system`
`12:33.41`	`Thiana`	`~seen hyperChipmunk`
`12:34.01`	`purl`	`hyperchipmunk <n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 51m 24s ago, saying: 'night, folks'.`
`12:34.01`	`[Ammo]`	`I love the look of the MG2 raidframes`
`12:34.06`	`[Ammo]`	`perfectraid is sweet as well, but it has so many clickselection problems`
`12:34.20`	`haste`	`I have no problem using PR on my sherman :o`
`12:34.43`	`[Ammo]`	`well I'll wait till it's more stable :)`
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`12:35.54`	`haste`	`heeh`
`12:42.13`	`Industrial`	`haste: LOL`
`12:42.16`	`Industrial`	`haste: seen the cip?`
`12:42.48`	`Industrial`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=426566504844044258&q=night+of+fire`
`12:42.56`	`haste`	`yeh`
`12:43.17`	`haste`	`guess the age on HINOI team btw Industrial :p`
`12:43.26`	`Industrial`	`17`
`12:43.46`	`haste`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HINOI_TEAM << fail`
`12:44.35`	`Industrial`	`14-15 :\|`
`12:45.06`	`Industrial`	`why are japanese girls 14 year old girls so hot?`
`12:45.13`	`Industrial`	`-girls`
`12:45.24`	`haste`	`'cause they are japanese?`
`12:53.38`	`haste`	`[Ammo]: btw, you play on the same server as a friends of mine old guild`
`12:54.03`	`haste`	`I think he has a L54 warlock named Zilrion there :)`
`13:03.46`	`phyber`	`[Ammo]: you got a screenshot of MG2 in a raid?`
`13:04.25`	`phyber`	`don't think I'll be ditching PR, but I'd like to see what they're like :)`
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`13:47.25`	`Wobin_`	`hm`
`13:47.36`	`Wobin_`	`Tekkub: If you're writing CorkFu, I can give up on MASH =P`
`13:47.59`	`Cairenn`	`zomg, I SO read that wrong at first glance`
`13:48.17`	`haste`	`haha`
`13:48.31`	`Wobin_`	`how did you read it? =P`
`13:49.11`	`CIA-13`	`03ammo * r1676 10oRA_Ready/ (oRA_Ready.lua oRA_Ready.toc oRA_Ready.xml): oRA_Ready: Moved all the frames from the xml into lua. Changed styling to sweet new look.`
`13:50.40`	`[Ammo]`	`I tried doing it in .xml haste, but failed, so meh`
`13:50.50`	`haste`	`hehe`
`13:50.59`	`[Ammo]`	`they look good now though`
`13:53.59`	`[Ammo]`	`should do the rest of the frames too, but meh :)`
`13:54.06`	`[Ammo]`	`as in other modules`
`13:54.21`	`haste`	`yeh, I'll might start on that later today`
`13:54.37`	`haste`	`depends if I can finish everything I have planned before or not`
`13:54.40`	`[Ammo]`	`nneed to figure out how to use a FauxScrollFrame in .lua`
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`14:07.30`	`[Ammo]`	`Phyber: MG2 in a raid on some priest in our guild: http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4518/raid3oq.jpg`
`14:07.45`	`[Ammo]`	`he has both mg2 and standard blizz stuff enabled for 'easier healing' he's a bit weird ;)`
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`14:19.34`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`Tekkub or mooni around?`
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`14:25.26`	`CIA-13`	`03ammo * r1677 10oRA_Resist/oRA_Resist.lua: oRA_Resist: changed unregistering of events to UnregisterAllEvents() as it should be`
`14:27.03`	`CIA-13`	`03ammo * r1678 10oRA_Item/oRA_Item.lua: oRA_Item: changed to UnregisterAllEvents() for brevity.`
`14:28.24`	`CIA-13`	`03ammo * r1679 10oRA_Durability/oRA_Durability.lua: oRA_Durability: Changed to UnregisterAllEvents() for brevity.`
`14:37.30`	`Gngsk`	`1 = attack!`
`14:39.12`	`phyber`	`[Ammo]: those frames do look quite nice. :)`
`14:40.21`	`phyber`	`can see you hiding at the edge of the pic.`
`14:40.49`	`[Ammo]`	`hehe yeah`
`14:41.02`	`Gngsk`	`the latest pre-releases have theme functionality`
`14:41.12`	`Gngsk`	`I'm so used to the old school minigroup style frames`
`14:41.19`	`Gngsk`	`but it's gonna be cool to see what people come up with`
`14:41.22`	`[Ammo]`	`I like the ABF style`
`14:41.31`	`[Ammo]`	`the ones in the pictures`
`14:41.34`	`Gngsk`	`yah`
`14:41.46`	`Gngsk`	`I have tried to switch to them a few times, just can't get used to them.`
`14:41.49`	`[Ammo]`	`but andreas needs to fix the party not grouped not showing up bug`
`14:41.51`	`Industrial`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:42.07`	`Gngsk`	`exams ftl!`
`14:42.13`	`[Ammo]`	`and the second row of debuffs not showing on the target frame`
`14:42.35`	`[Ammo]`	`but themes are good`
`14:42.38`	`[Ammo]`	`everyone their own thing`
`14:42.47`	`[Ammo]`	`as long as I can strip the files of useless data :)`
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`14:43.23`	`Gngsk`	`heh`
`14:43.45`	`Gngsk`	`I really need to make the switch to oRA`
`14:43.48`	`Gngsk`	`just been too lazy`
`14:44.34`	`[Ammo]`	`there's 2 major things to be done`
`14:44.37`	`[Ammo]`	`or 3 rather`
`14:44.54`	`[Ammo]`	`Item, Durability and Resist need a scrollframe and sortoptions`
`14:45.03`	`[Ammo]`	`and some smaller tweaks ofcourse`
`14:45.21`	`Gngsk`	`so should I go with trunk or the stuff on wowi?`
`14:45.30`	`[Ammo]`	`trunk`
`14:45.47`	`Gngsk`	`guess I'm finally gonna have to setup an svn client`
`14:45.58`	`[Ammo]`	`you can download tarballs from SVN web`
`14:46.01`	`[Ammo]`	`http://svn.wowace.com/`
`14:46.06`	`Gngsk`	`yah, that's what I've been doing`
`14:46.19`	`Gngsk`	`but fubar and oRA get changed so much daily`
`14:46.33`	`Gngsk`	`or at least it seems that way`
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`14:50.00`	`[Ammo]`	`well for FuBar I use the WoWI releases`
`14:50.05`	`[Ammo]`	`for oRA I use the svn trunk`
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`15:04.09`	`Gngsk`	`Can't connect to host 'svn.wowace.com': No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.`
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`15:18.26`	`Lucen`	`try: http://svn.wowace.com/root`
`15:18.48`	`Lucen`	`if you're using a client`
`15:19.08`	`Gngsk`	`k`
`15:19.15`	`Gngsk`	`was trying svn://`
`15:19.44`	`Gngsk`	`that did it`
`15:19.45`	`Gngsk`	`thanks`
`15:20.17`	`Lucen`	`np`
`15:40.57`	`Tem`	`ugh`
`15:41.08`	`Tem`	`yesterday I spent 4 hours reading mage stuff`
`15:41.16`	`Tem`	`now it can't keep my attention for 10 minutes`
`15:41.27`	`[Ammo]`	`roll a warlock and be done with it :)`
`15:41.33`	`[Ammo]`	`I spent 2 hours today killing my guildmaster`
`15:41.38`	`Tem`	`I hate warlocks`
`15:41.41`	`[Ammo]`	`he claimed his mage could pwn my warlock`
`15:41.47`	`[Ammo]`	`I proved him wrong, I think I won 30 times`
`15:41.56`	`Tem`	`(for more reasons than getting bent over by a fucking pet)`
`15:41.58`	`[Ammo]`	`even without felhunter :)`
`15:42.11`	`Tem`	`I can beat a warlock without his felhunter`
`15:42.25`	`Tem`	`I will probably die after hes dead from dots`
`15:42.26`	`Tem`	`but I can`
`15:42.59`	`[Ammo]`	`depends on who gets the first damage in`
`15:43.27`	`Tem`	`I'm talking in a duel`
`15:43.34`	`[Ammo]`	`that's what I'm talking too`
`15:43.48`	`Tem`	`well, the mage will pretty much always get one on first`
`15:43.56`	`Tem`	`usually doesn't make much of a difference`
`15:44.23`	`[Ammo]`	`I open with death coil, trinket, fear, shadowbolt, shadowburn, and then start dotting`
`15:44.36`	`[Ammo]`	`then it depends on resistances`
`15:44.57`	`Tem`	`trinket?`
`15:45.00`	`Tem`	`oh oh`
`15:45.02`	`Tem`	`ZHC?`
`15:45.04`	`Tem`	`or ToEP?`
`15:45.12`	`[Ammo]`	`ZHC`
`15:45.30`	`[Ammo]`	`I have 590 shadowdamage btw`
`15:45.35`	`Tem`	`wow nice`
`15:45.39`	`Tem`	`you'd eat my face off`
`15:45.51`	`Tem`	`spell damage doesn't help me all that much`
`15:45.53`	`gogusrl`	`[Ammo] what spec are you ?`
`15:45.57`	`Tem`	`(for my warlock strategy)`
`15:46.09`	`[Ammo]`	`I am SM/DS`
`15:46.20`	`[Ammo]`	`well not atm`
`15:46.24`	`gogusrl`	`how can you live with 3 secs shadowobolts ?`
`15:46.26`	`[Ammo]`	`but that's because we're fighting huhuran`
`15:46.28`	`[Ammo]`	`easy`
`15:46.42`	`Tem`	`sounds painful`
`15:46.47`	`Tem`	`I'm spoiled`
`15:46.53`	`Tem`	`2.5 second frostbolts own`
`15:46.56`	`[Ammo]`	`it works for me`
`15:47.06`	`gogusrl`	`with tier 3`
`15:47.23`	`gogusrl`	`30/0/21 or 7/21/23 will be required`
`15:47.24`	`[Ammo]`	`SM/DS is such a good mass pvp/pve build`
`15:47.30`	`gogusrl`	`to not waste the 4 pieces bonus`
`15:47.38`	`Tem`	`what's the 4 peice?`
`15:47.58`	`gogusrl`	`corruption can proc a vampirism (i think) debuff on the mob`
`15:48.07`	`gogusrl`	`and your shadowbolts will heal you for 270-310 (i think)`
`15:48.24`	`gogusrl`	`www.whataboutpp.com for more info`
`15:48.36`	`[Ammo]`	`I am now a soul link, 5/5 corruption, 2/2 imp lifetap, and 11 destro (shadowburn) build`
`15:48.44`	`[Ammo]`	`I will be that build till we have Twin Emps on farm`
`15:48.53`	`[Ammo]`	`took one for the guild and gimped myself`
`15:48.59`	`gogusrl`	`lol`
`15:49.02`	`gogusrl`	`use warriors`
`15:49.05`	`gogusrl`	`only`
`15:49.16`	`[Ammo]`	`not until we can get the pull right`
`15:49.21`	`[Ammo]`	`like I said until they are on farm`
`15:49.25`	`gogusrl`	`dude, on the pull, you pull with the warlock`
`15:49.31`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah that's what we do`
`15:49.34`	`gogusrl`	`but after that, you have a warrior in at the first teleport`
`15:49.34`	`[Ammo]`	`and with SL I will live`
`15:49.44`	`[Ammo]`	`so I gimped myself for the guild`
`15:49.55`	`[Ammo]`	`and after we kill them a few times I'll change back to SM/DS`
`15:49.57`	`gogusrl`	`dude, you can live that with default gear`
`15:50.06`	`gogusrl`	`i only equip pvp gloves`
`15:50.13`	`gogusrl`	`for searing pain spam`
`15:50.21`	`[Ammo]`	`I don't want to take risks`
`15:50.35`	`[Ammo]`	`also this build makes huhuran easier :)`
`15:50.45`	`gogusrl`	`are you in the suicide team ?`
`15:50.49`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`15:50.55`	`gogusrl`	`lol`
`15:50.55`	`[Ammo]`	`well I'm 2nd line defense`
`15:50.58`	`[Ammo]`	`together with the rest`
`15:51.04`	`*** join/#wowace Firedancer (n=Miranda@cpe-24-58-108-74.twcny.res.rr.com)`
`15:51.12`	`*** part/#wowace Firedancer (n=Miranda@cpe-24-58-108-74.twcny.res.rr.com)`
`15:51.14`	`[Ammo]`	`don't lol me, it's diff strategies for everyone`
`15:51.17`	`gogusrl`	`that is the only fight where i spoil myself with the sucubuss trick`
`15:51.44`	`[Ammo]`	`and currently this works for us`
`15:51.58`	`gogusrl`	`we have warlocks in suicide also`
`15:52.02`	`gogusrl`	`but only 2 i think`
`15:52.06`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`haste, u here?`
`15:52.07`	`[Ammo]`	`we have 0 in suicide`
`15:52.14`	`[Ammo]`	`but we have 5 in the second line`
`15:52.14`	`gogusrl`	`md is pretty nice`
`15:52.18`	`gogusrl`	`5 ?`
`15:52.21`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`15:52.21`	`gogusrl`	`we raid with 3`
`15:52.26`	`gogusrl`	`like max :)`
`15:52.28`	`[Ammo]`	`we raid very DPS heavy`
`15:52.35`	`gogusrl`	`we have 15 active mages`
`15:52.37`	`[Ammo]`	`sometimes we have 6 warlocks :)`
`15:52.43`	`gogusrl`	`so we take 6-7 min`
`15:52.50`	`gogusrl`	we don`t have 6 warlocks in the guild
`15:52.55`	`gogusrl`	`less competition for me`
`15:52.55`	`[Ammo]`	`we have 7`
`15:53.18`	`[Ammo]`	`usually 5 warlocks 5 mages`
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`15:53.36`	`[Ammo]`	`everything depends on raid setup etc`
`15:53.41`	`[Ammo]`	`we're dps heavy`
`15:53.46`	`[Ammo]`	`raiding with 4 priests 4 pallies 3 druids or so`
`15:53.53`	`[Ammo]`	`more if we're lucky :)`
`15:53.58`	`gogusrl`	you`re alliance :)
`15:54.02`	`[Ammo]`	`yeah`
`15:54.20`	`gogusrl`	we tried c`thun last night with 3 priests
`15:54.24`	`[Ammo]`	`wish we had totems on viscidious :p`
`15:54.38`	`gogusrl`	`wish i had bok/bos on all the fights`
`15:54.48`	`[Ammo]`	`bok is sweet yeah`
`15:55.36`	`gogusrl`	`i want a femur`
`15:55.52`	`[Ammo]`	`we've had lots of comments from the other guilds on Kazzak (we're formerly daggerspine) EU`
`15:56.04`	`[Ammo]`	`'wtf, how much dps in bwl?'`
`15:56.10`	`[Ammo]`	`but our healers are pro`
`15:56.18`	`[Ammo]`	`they have to be or we don't survive :)`
`15:58.26`	`[Ammo]`	`do you guys use the lame hunter feign death on the defenders before twin emps btw?`
`16:00.47`	`gogusrl`	`eh ?`
`16:01.00`	`[Ammo]`	`we were fighting them fine whatever abilities they had`
`16:01.07`	`[Ammo]`	`adapting with clear orders on vent`
`16:01.21`	`gogusrl`	`so why are you still on twins ?`
`16:01.30`	`Gngsk`	`TC+meteor ftw!`
`16:01.37`	`[Ammo]`	`because we have had only 1 attempt on the twins :)`
`16:01.39`	`gogusrl`	`you are the first guild i hear that kills whatever he pulls`
`16:01.43`	`gogusrl`	we don`t
`16:01.54`	`gogusrl`	`we use the lame hunter feign death`
`16:01.56`	`[Ammo]`	`well, it's not _that_ hard to kill what you pull`
`16:02.00`	`gogusrl`	`:)`
`16:02.04`	`[Ammo]`	`you just have to adapt quickly`
`16:02.24`	`[Ammo]`	`we're a slow progression guild, casual gamers`
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`16:19.30`	`Kaelten`	`hey guys`
`16:19.43`	`[MoonWolf]`	`hey keal`
`16:20.39`	`Shyva`	`hey hey`
`16:20.39`	`CIA-13`	`03wobin * r1680 10FrameLib/ (4 files in 2 dirs):`
`16:20.39`	`CIA-13`	`FreezeFrame: Previously known as the Library Formerly Known as FrameLib.lua`
`16:20.39`	`CIA-13`	`Works now =P`
`16:21.20`	`Kaelten`	`ello`
`16:21.29`	`Kaelten`	`hows it been goin?`
`16:21.46`	`CIA-13`	`03wobin * r1681 10/trunk/ (FrameLib/ FreezeFrame/): FreezeFrame - Renamed`
`16:25.33`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`hey kael`
`16:25.59`	`hyperChipmunk`	`'sup froods`
`16:27.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so, heh...time to hit up the AH for frost resist gear before the prices go sky-high, eh?`
`16:28.23`	`CIA-13`	`03wobin * r1682 10FreezeFrame/ (4 files in 2 dirs): FreezeFrameLib - Tacked on Lib to be clearer`
`16:29.21`	`CIA-13`	`03wobin * r1683 10/trunk/ (FreezeFrame/ FreezeFrameLib/): FreezeFrameLib - And renamed the folder`
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`16:30.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`always wondered this: any reason we decided to go with the FooLib naming scheme, rather than LibFoo? be nice if they all lined up in the directory listing =P`
`16:31.10`	`Wobin_`	`I guess it sounds better to say "WombleLibrary"`
`16:31.27`	`Wobin_`	`And makes more sense`
`16:32.00`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hehe, LibWomb`
`16:32.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`WombleLibrary sounds like womble made a big donation to the university`
`16:32.41`	`Wobin_`	`I guess we could go with EmbWombleLib`
`16:36.29`	`Industrial`	`hyperChipmunk: agreed`
`16:36.37`	`Industrial`	`hyperChipmunk: on the first thing`
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`16:48.04`	`CIA-13`	`03wobin * r1684 10FreezeFrameLib/Lib/FreezeFrameLib.lua: FreezeFrameLib - Removed debug statement`
`16:48.20`	`CIA-13`	`03shyva * r1685 10BigWigs/ (BWL/Vaelastrasz.lua MC/BaronGeddon.lua): BigWigs: Fixed checking for other locals then korean, last try..`
`17:07.37`	`CIA-13`	`03kemayo * r1686 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu - Fixed a nil error with quest tags when pasting to the chatbox.`
`17:10.53`	`CIA-13`	`03kemayo * r1687 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (FuBar_QuestsFu.toc QuestsFu.lua readme.txt): FuBar_QuestsFu - Version number bump.`
`17:15.37`	`CIA-13`	`03icetrain * r1688 10oRA_MainTankFrames/ (oRA_MainTankFrames.lua oRA_MainTankFramesLocals.lua): oRA_MainTankFrames: Added a "reset" option to reset frame positions`
`17:16.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`O_o`
`17:18.33`	`CIA-13`	`03icetrain * r1689 10oRA_MainTankFrames/oRA_MainTankFrames.lua: oRA_MainTankFrames: Removed debug code.. /slap`
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`17:38.22`	`kergoth`	`bleh`
`17:41.01`	`CIA-13`	`03hyperactiveChipmunk * r1690 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua BulkMailLocals.lua gui.lua gui.xml):`
`17:41.01`	`CIA-13`	`BulkMail:`
`17:41.01`	`CIA-13`	`- 'Clear' button added to the GUI; this clears the current list of items to be sent`
`17:41.01`	`CIA-13`	`- /bm gui command added to display the GUI (mostly for my benefit)`
`17:52.57`	`phyber`	`is there a FuBar_DPS addon that doesn't depend on combat stats or similar? Just want something to sit next to FuBar_Regen :)`
`17:53.52`	`phyber`	`then I can get rid of Telo's InfoBar :)`
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`18:04.59`	`Tem`	`I think gello made a plugin for FuBar that works off of Recap`
`18:05.12`	`Tem`	`you can set Recap to be "you only"`
`18:06.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I thought Gello doesn't do FuBar`
`18:07.15`	`kergoth`	`kombatstats works well, bit lighter than recap. or can wait till nanostats gets a fubar plugin`
`18:07.37`	`phyber`	`Mmm. NanoStatsFu.`
`18:10.48`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Gello didn't do Ace (apparently, Rowne irritated him), but Tekkub has redeemed all things Ace with Gello (or at least, we're no longer the enemy)...`
`18:11.34`	`Tain`	`He was also annoyed at the response he got from someone else on some forums.`
`18:11.39`	`Tain`	`But things seem better now!`
`18:12.38`	`Elkano`	`Chipmunk, it seems like BattlegroundFu showing AB's flags isn't working with deDE client`
`18:12.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`dur, that's cuz it ain't localized`
`18:13.16`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I don't have a German client`
`18:13.26`	`Elkano`	`k, sth more to add to babblelib :)`
`18:13.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`sth?`
`18:13.54`	`Elkano`	`something`
`18:14.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the localizations are in GloryLib`
`18:15.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the logic and strings for deDE are in there, but they're untranslated as of yet`
`18:17.43`	`Elkano`	`ok, so tell me what you need and I'll look for them :)`
`18:18.42`	`Elkano`	`ah, i see`
`18:18.48`	`hyperChipmunk`	`just a bunch of patterns in glorylib`
`18:18.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`grep for CHECK`
`18:19.46`	`hyperChipmunk`	`add any additional patterns necessary; they're looped through`
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`18:20.59`	`Elkano`	`I'll try to get you those for AB... no 51+ chara so no AV :(`
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`18:22.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that'd be great`
`18:24.46`	`Elkano`	`so you need the capture/defend message and the poi tooltips?`
`18:26.55`	`kergoth`	`bleh`
`18:26.56`	`kergoth`	`hm`
`18:33.10`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Grrr... Who knows where the DewDropLib docs are?`
`18:35.35`	`hyperChipmunk`	`need anything that's there, yea`
`18:36.10`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the poi tooltips come from GetMapLandmarkInfo(n)`
`18:42.11`	`kergoth`	`~botmail for Wobin_: have a version of the lua syntax file modified so that set foldmethod=syntax works`
`18:42.24`	`phyber`	`onyxia dropped 2 druid helms, and the only druid in the raid already had it.`
`18:42.50`	`kergoth`	`~botmail for Wobin_: erm, syntax file for vim, to clarify`
`18:48.11`	`Codayus`	`phyber: ouch`
`18:58.52`	`CIA-13`	`03kaelten * r1691 10FuBar_ReloadFu/reload.lua:`
`19:08.36`	`Tem`	`Ratbert_CP: in the DewDrop folder there is an API.html file`
`19:08.38`	`Tem`	`Ratbert_CP: read it`
`19:11.24`	`kergoth`	`http://www.math.uchicago.edu/~chruska/recursive/moser.html is amusing`
`19:11.28`	`kergoth`	`"This is the first sentence of this story. This is the second sentence. This is the title of this story, which is also found several times in the story itself. This sentence is questioning the intrinsic value of the first two sentences. This sentence is to inform you, in case you haven't already realized it, that this is a self-referential story, that is, a story containing sentences that refer to their own structure and function."`
`19:12.41`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Found it. It's not part of the FuBar dist, so I didn't see it there...`
`19:13.12`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Read it, and my FuBar menu is spiffy and functional!`
`19:14.36`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Now if I can just get my loadstring'ed functions to work right...`
`19:16.31`	`haste`	`HoJ\|Slayman: I'm here now :o`
`19:16.39`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`cool`
`19:17.16`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`i thought i found the reason for OUF partyframes not updating, but it came out i was wrong :(`
`19:18.32`	`haste`	`oh`
`19:18.40`	`haste`	`how aren't they updating btw?`
`19:18.45`	`haste`	`stats, display?`
`19:18.52`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`on leave they stay as they are`
`19:19.10`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`on joining after this they don't update properly`
`19:19.38`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`like name of partymember changes but class and bartypes stay the same`
`19:20.16`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`or on joining a party not all members are displayed and so on`
`19:21.21`	`ckknight`	`hey all`
`19:21.59`	`haste`	`HoJ\|Slayman: could you give me a little list of what addons you use?`
`19:22.10`	`haste`	`I haven't been able to recreate it myself`
`19:22.21`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`i could, can i somehow redirect the output of like /ace list?`
`19:22.22`	`ckknight`	`apparently the world isn't ending as fast as I had planned`
`19:22.25`	`ckknight`	`thus, I am still here`
`19:22.45`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`I'm sorry ckknight that ur plans didn't work out`
`19:22.50`	`ckknight`	`not my plans`
`19:22.54`	`ckknight`	`just plans forced upon me`
`19:22.59`	`haste`	`give me a sec to google HoJ\|Slayman`
`19:23.10`	`ckknight`	`by the way, if I'm gone for more than 3 weeks, whoever wants to can claim FuBar`
`19:23.15`	`ckknight`	`and all my other addons`
`19:23.23`	`ckknight`	`only 3 weeks though`
`19:23.28`	`ckknight`	`and only in the Ace community`
`19:23.30`	`ckknight`	`just a fair warning`
`19:23.44`	`Ratbert_CP`	`May we ask the cause?`
`19:24.00`	`ckknight`	`also under the condition that if I return, I could claim back ownership`
`19:24.01`	`ckknight`	`no, Ratbert_CP`
`19:24.07`	`ckknight`	`but it may or may not happen`
`19:24.33`	`haste`	`HoJ\|Slayman: dir /s /b > "addons.txt"`
`19:24.36`	`ckknight`	`I am not sure yet`
`19:24.53`	`Codayus`	`hmmm, myserious. :-)`
`19:26.42`	`haste`	`HoJ\|Slayman: oh, no need to use /s`
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`19:29.14`	`ckknight`	`not quite, Ratbert`
`19:29.16`	`ckknight`	`not quite.`
`19:29.16`	`ToastTheif`	`Hey Tekkub`
`19:30.24`	`ckknight`	`as I said, the world has to end first, me taking a job at Blizzard would not cause that to happen`
`19:30.29`	`ckknight`	`and it sure would be fun`
`19:30.56`	`haste`	`Slayman: use a pastebin :p`
`19:31.56`	`Slayman`	`dude my mouse is on low bat so i need a little to tab through everything ok? gimme a sec will you?`
`19:32.45`	`haste`	`I just noticed you excess flooded, didn't know if you got the message or not 'cause of that :<`
`19:32.52`	`Slayman`	`http://pastebin.ca/55176`
`19:32.55`	`Slayman`	`there u go`
`19:33.10`	`Slayman`	`i OWN that fucking Windows with my fucking keyboard`
`19:33.49`	`Slayman`	`Watchdog is disabled on the AddOn Menu when OUF is used. so is oRa and XRaid due to be unneeded`
`19:35.51`	`haste`	`okey`
`19:48.14`	`kergoth`	`http://en.literateprograms.org/LiteratePrograms:Welcome is neat`
`19:53.33`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Hrmm...`
`19:57.21`	`Slayman`	`hey i need to say i like this channel as i can swear and say dirty words all the time :-D`
`20:02.01`	`ckknight`	`yea, well, fuck you, guy`
`20:02.08`	`ckknight`	`jk`
`20:02.46`	`Industrial`	`ToastTheif: you bishie`
`20:02.54`	`Industrial`	`ToastTheif: why did you block me on MSN?`
`20:02.59`	`Industrial`	`ToastTheif: i can see that you know`
`20:09.39`	`CIA-13`	`03otravi * r1692 10oRA_Durability/ (oRA_Durability.lua oRA_DurabilityLocals.lua): oRA_Durability - Will now display percentage on report and some minor improvements.`
`20:10.29`	`ToastTheif`	`huh`
`20:10.32`	`ToastTheif`	`I did not block you`
`20:11.16`	`ToastTheif`	`I don't even see you on my list anymore :O`
`20:11.59`	`ToastTheif`	`nope`
`20:12.01`	`ToastTheif`	`I see you`
`20:12.05`	`ToastTheif`	`says your offline`
`20:12.24`	`ToastTheif`	`nothing about blocked`
`20:12.56`	`haste`	`drama! watches`
`20:15.37`	`haste`	`evil'1`
`20:16.33`	`ToastTheif`	`RAWR`
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`20:17.54`	`ToastTheif`	`why`
`20:17.56`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Good morning all!`
`20:18.16`	`ckknight`	`hey there`
`20:18.37`	`haste`	`I see an error in AQ20/Ossirian.lua`
`20:18.41`	`haste`	`two actually :p`
`20:19.03`	`haste`	`1. It says AQ40 2. The supreme timer _will_ bug on the hunter 8-set bonus Expose weakness`
`20:20.48`	`ckknight`	`does lua have binary operators?`
`20:20.56`	`ckknight`	`e.g. 5 & 1`
`20:23.12`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`20:24.13`	`ckknight`	`can't find evidence for it`
`20:24.17`	`ckknight`	`I'll assume no`
`20:25.04`	`Tem`	`ckknight: it does`
`20:25.10`	`Tem`	`well sort of`
`20:25.11`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`20:25.15`	`Tem`	`bitlib`
`20:37.50`	`ckknight`	`http://ace.pastebin.com/712224`
`20:37.59`	`ckknight`	`Fibonacci in Lua`
`20:41.50`	`kergoth`	`ah nice, didnt notice`
`20:41.57`	`kergoth`	`the vim70 lua syntax supports lua 5.1 now`
`20:50.06`	`*** join/#wowace gnor (n=jaydee@ny-lackawannacadent4-chtwga3b-b-121.buf.adelphia.net)`
`20:50.55`	`kergoth`	`there we go, block comments are folding properly now.. stupid after/syntax file i forgot about was causing havok`
`20:51.29`	`phyber`	`i think when I upgrade to vim7, I'll actually update my .vimrc too.`
`20:52.00`	`phyber`	`it's from ages ago. I'm sure I can do more cool stuff by now.`
`20:52.36`	`kergoth`	`should check out my setup, lots of nifty stuff in there. automatic enable/disable of the line number display based on the width of the window, etc`
`20:52.39`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`20:53.16`	`[MoonWolf]`	`new show for geeks`
`20:53.20`	`[MoonWolf]`	`pimp my text editor.`
`20:53.27`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`20:59.18`	`kergoth`	`one thing i want to do for vim.. when using a foldmethod of indent, so it goes by indentation level, i'd like the defaults for how deep the fold needs to be to automatically close it when opening the file to depend on the size of the indent (shiftwidth) and the window size.`
`21:03.37`	`phyber`	`kergoth: got a URL to your vimrc then? :)`
`21:03.51`	`kergoth`	`svn co http://kergoth.com/svn/homefiles`
`21:03.59`	`kergoth`	`alternatively, there's a trac at http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles`
`21:05.06`	`phyber`	`svn is fine, co'ing it now :)`
`21:05.34`	`phyber`	`ack, probably should have looked for the specific thing. ~/.mozilla coming down here ;)`
`21:05.56`	`kergoth`	`hehe. thats a good set of extensions though. i keep almost all of my dotfiles in svn nowadays`
`21:07.03`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Do you guys know if it hurts anything to leave things swapped in Visor?`
`21:07.12`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or do you need an unswap eventually?`
`21:09.03`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Does colored text nest, or do I have to explicitly reset the text color?`
`21:11.06`	`[MoonWolf]`	`it nests`
`21:12.19`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Hmmm... What's the syntax?`
`21:12.38`	`[MoonWolf]`	`c\|ffffffff text \|r`
`21:12.59`	`[MoonWolf]`	`the ff are alpha, and the classic rrggbb`
`21:13.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`\|caarrggbbtext\|r`
`21:13.17`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Hmmm... Doesn't seem to work...`
`21:13.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`because the \| goes before the c`
`21:13.35`	`[MoonWolf]`	`my bad`
`21:18.06`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Ah! It's an ace.cmd.msg issue...`
`21:18.56`	`Ratbert_CP`	`No... It's an ace.cmd.result issue (or my issue in using it improperly)`
`21:19.19`	`Ratbert_CP`	`My bad for C&P messaging functions... :)`
`21:25.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Do you guys know if you can have two script handlers for one button?`
`21:26.00`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Like an OnClick and OnEvent?`
`21:26.05`	`Tain`	`You can.`
`21:26.11`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Saweeet.`
`21:26.28`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Do they have to go in a certain order?`
`21:26.34`	`Tain`	`Just don't try to specify them in the same command line.`
`21:26.45`	`LaerbeeJo`	`...`
`21:26.49`	`Tain`	`You can only do one ssh/ss= per execution.`
`21:26.54`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Ah.`
`21:26.56`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Got it.`
`21:27.04`	`LaerbeeJo`	`So just have two Visor:Do for each.`
`21:27.10`	`Tain`	`Yep, exactly.`
`21:27.13`	`LaerbeeJo`	`<3`
`21:27.15`	`LaerbeeJo`	`This is so neato.`
`21:27.34`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Another question...`
`21:27.48`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oops, nevermind.`
`21:27.55`	`Tain`	`I think I hate Visor's button stuff. Yes, I think I may be sure of it.`
`21:28.36`	`[MoonWolf]`	`kill it off.`
`21:28.39`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh, sniffle NO!`
`21:29.01`	`Tain`	`The problem is I tried using a couple of other things recently and I couldn't deal with them.`
`21:29.35`	`Tain`	`So I suppose it means I hate everything else more. That's too bad.`
`21:29.35`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lets all go back to good old flexbar`
`21:30.00`	`LaerbeeJo`	`No, flexbar takes too long to load. ;(`
`21:30.03`	`LaerbeeJo`	`:( even`
`21:30.29`	`Tain`	`Actually, I really do need to consolidate Visor's loading code. I had it loading twice as fast in tests.`
`21:31.04`	`LaerbeeJo`	`What's the OnMouseEnter event called?`
`21:31.06`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Or whatever...`
`21:31.09`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I can't find it.`
`21:31.13`	`Tain`	`OnEnter`
`21:31.25`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh, hee.`
`21:31.26`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Thanks.`
`21:31.28`	`Tain`	`And then OnLeave (as needed.)`
`21:31.43`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Can I just have an OnLeave event?`
`21:31.50`	`Tain`	`Yes indeedy.`
`21:31.53`	`LaerbeeJo`	`So when my mouse leaves the button, something happens.`
`21:31.54`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh, joy.`
`21:33.40`	`Tem`	`Flexbar eats souls`
`21:33.47`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yes`
`21:33.50`	`Tem`	`it also kicked my dog`
`21:34.01`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Flexbar: powered by your soul.`
`21:34.27`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Vsor: And you thought flexbar was complicated!`
`21:34.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`haha`
`21:34.41`	`[MoonWolf]`	`visor*`
`21:35.05`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Bongos: Click drag done!`
`21:35.06`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Yeah, I remember starting to use Flexbar and thinking how complex it was.`
`21:35.28`	`Tain`	`Flexbar just is a middle ground between easy and Lua scripting.`
`21:35.47`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Cardbars: Come back cardella!`
`21:36.03`	`Tain`	`Most of it's usage is mapping Lua functions/events to what are supposed to be easier to understand options.`
`21:36.12`	`[MoonWolf]`	`DAB: Hey, we added 20 more buttons this version.`
`21:36.19`	`LaerbeeJo`	`And then, I see people all over the Visor forums saying, "But Flexbar was so simple!"`
`21:36.33`	`Tain`	`At least DAB lets you make bars of variable length.`
`21:36.38`	`[MoonWolf]`	`true`
`21:36.42`	`[MoonWolf]`	`dab has its pro's`
`21:36.46`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and its cons`
`21:36.56`	`[MoonWolf]`	`the red line around the config line is a big con.`
`21:36.56`	`Tain`	`It's just me, but I can not deal with being forced to a 12 button bar.`
`21:37.03`	`kergoth`	`is there a version of it with dynamic frame creation yet?`
`21:37.05`	`[MoonWolf]`	`frame line*`
`21:37.16`	`Tain`	`I don't know why all of the Discord mods configuration screens are so offensive to my eyes.`
`21:37.33`	`[MoonWolf]`	`neither do I, but they are.`
`21:37.35`	`LaerbeeJo`	`He does it on purpose.`
`21:37.41`	`[MoonWolf]`	`he must.`
`21:37.45`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Discord's site is like that too.`
`21:37.48`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I asked him once.`
`21:37.51`	`Tain`	`That's one way to force people away from GUIs. :)`
`21:38.16`	`[MoonWolf]`	`dab simply has too many features for me`
`21:38.22`	`Tain`	`kergoth: I have a version of dynamic VisorButtons creation in branches`
`21:38.22`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i am pretty content with bongos`
`21:38.33`	`Industrial`	`bongos is ok`
`21:38.36`	`Industrial`	`but way too big imo`
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`21:38.40`	`Industrial`	`i went back to visor...`
`21:38.46`	`Tain`	`Bongos just has the 12 button bars things.`
`21:38.49`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yes`
`21:38.56`	`[MoonWolf]`	`bongos has 12 button bars`
`21:39.09`	`[MoonWolf]`	`but they can be vertical!!!!`
`21:39.15`	`Tain`	`Which I know is harping on a theme, but after being so flexible with "bars" I can't deal with that anymore.`
`21:39.15`	`Industrial`	`the only thing i think visor shouldnt have is the script handlers`
`21:39.24`	`Industrial`	`[MoonWolf]: my bars can be diagonal`
`21:39.38`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I wub the script handlers.`
`21:39.43`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Industrial, not ultimatly usefull.`
`21:39.43`	`Industrial`	`I wub them not`
`21:39.50`	`Industrial`	`[MoonWolf]: but possible`
`21:39.52`	`Tain`	`Visor just needs more of a separation from VisorButtons is all.`
`21:39.55`	`[MoonWolf]`	`true`
`21:39.59`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I'd be oh so sad if I didn't have them.`
`21:40.02`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I thought they were.`
`21:40.09`	`Industrial`	`Why not just use lua LaerbeeJo`
`21:40.15`	`Industrial`	`that makes things alot clearer`
`21:40.16`	`LaerbeeJo`	`'Cause I don't understand it yet.`
`21:40.20`	`Industrial`	`yet`
`21:40.20`	`Industrial`	`:)`
`21:40.31`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Heh, I may come around to your way eventually.`
`21:40.32`	`Tain`	`You do use Lua when creating/assigning script handlers to buttons.`
`21:40.35`	`[MoonWolf]`	`heh, i sometimes think visor makes lua MORE complicated.`
`21:41.05`	`Tain`	`Technically you can just make a list of your handler code in a separate file and execute it outside of Visor.`
`21:41.10`	`Tain`	`All Visor is for is to store it for you.`
`21:41.25`	`Industrial`	`Tain: i know but using lua in the form of an addon or a textpad thingy addon is alot clearer and way more readable`
`21:41.27`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, I do that`
`21:41.36`	`Industrial`	`orly?`
`21:41.38`	`[MoonWolf]`	`hmmm`
`21:41.41`	`Industrial`	`oh, ofcource`
`21:41.42`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`21:41.54`	`Tain`	`That's just a matter of opinion though, Industrial. And there's no reason not to do that if it's easier.`
`21:41.54`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i have a custom addon that holds all my code tweaks and stuff`
`21:42.13`	`hyperChipmunk`	`likewise`
`21:42.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`not even with the new highliting.`
`21:42.26`	`Tain`	`I love Tinypad.`
`21:42.26`	`Tekkub`	`oro?`
`21:42.41`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Tekkub, i wanted to ask you , dreanei. hot ?`
`21:42.43`	`Industrial`	`click poof done`
`21:42.43`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`21:42.53`	`Tekkub`	`well they got the tail`
`21:42.54`	`Tain`	`Tekkup is draenei?`
`21:43.02`	`Tekkub`	`but they don't appear to be furry?`
`21:43.07`	`[MoonWolf]`	`nope, scaly`
`21:43.13`	`Tain`	`They need Calgon.`
`21:43.16`	`LaerbeeJo`	`30 lines...`
`21:43.20`	`Industrial`	`yes, 30`
`21:43.22`	`LaerbeeJo`	`:\`
`21:43.26`	`Tekkub`	`I'll have to get a better look at them, they seem somewhat galkan but not as burly`
`21:43.35`	`Tain`	`My Visor setup script is probably around 30 lines.`
`21:43.46`	`[MoonWolf]`	`its like, wow version of galka, with scales instead of fur.`
`21:43.46`	`Tekkub`	`but they do look more interesting then some of the other choices for those classes`
`21:43.47`	`Tem`	`LaerbeeJo: can I suggest that you read the programming in Lua book? It's a wonderful reference and you can learn real real fast`
`21:44.06`	`Industrial`	`makes me a bar, a pet bar sets up unit frames hides the main bar and a function to switch my bags on and off`
`21:44.06`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i hated the model at first`
`21:44.12`	`[MoonWolf]`	`but im liking it more and more.`
`21:44.14`	`[MoonWolf]`	`for some reason.`
`21:44.22`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I've tried reading some of the books, but I get so lost.`
`21:44.33`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Heh, I liked the Galkas.`
`21:44.35`	`Industrial`	`i love the female model`
`21:44.39`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I just wished there'd been girls.`
`21:44.41`	`Industrial`	`sexy ears`
`21:44.46`	`Industrial`	`:o`
`21:44.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Not the sissy Mithra girls either.`
`21:44.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`read pil; it's great`
`21:44.55`	`[MoonWolf]`	`female dreanei are like, nightelfs crossed with twi?ek.`
`21:45.02`	`[MoonWolf]`	`twi'lek`
`21:45.07`	`[MoonWolf]`	`stupid dutch keyboard layout.`
`21:45.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`http://www.lua.org/pil/`
`21:48.05`	`Elkano`	`btw: id, thx for the link to the hinoi team clip you sent earlier ;)`
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`22:07.44`	`haste`	`Hinoi team owns :p`
`22:10.16`	`FryGuy`	`/agree`
`22:10.25`	`Tekkub`	`HOT DICKINGS!`
`22:13.12`	`farpen`	`ckknight u here?`
`22:13.14`	`haste`	`Tekkub: the error setar gets is on the anchor (I guess)`
`22:13.27`	`Tekkub`	`it says Bars`
`22:13.36`	`Tekkub`	`and the line refers to Timex`
`22:14.32`	`haste`	`hmm, ctrl+j = enter now`
`22:14.47`	`Tekkub`	`ha`
`22:14.48`	`Tekkub`	`ha`
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`22:20.39`	`haste`	`what the hell is .vw for a audio format?`
`22:20.49`	`Tain`	`Volkswagon?`
`22:21.06`	`haste`	`not even mplayer plays it :O`
`22:22.07`	`haste`	`I found it!`
`22:22.17`	`haste`	`it's wavpack`
`22:22.53`	`ckknight`	`hey farpen`
`22:23.00`	`farpen`	`bah stupid nick again`
`22:23.08`	`farpen`	`that error i spoke of if u remember?`
`22:23.11`	`farpen`	`ckknight http://wow.pastebin.com/709367`
`22:23.13`	`farpen`	`that one`
`22:23.15`	`ckknight`	`yea?`
`22:23.25`	`farpen`	`i still get it, but just on my main char, the other one i got works just fine`
`22:23.34`	`farpen`	`and i removed all old saved variables etc`
`22:24.49`	`ckknight`	`yea...`
`22:24.54`	`groll`	`any clue?`
`22:24.58`	`ckknight`	`usinot yet`
`22:25.01`	`ckknight`	`not yet*`
`22:25.04`	`groll`	`okies`
`22:25.09`	`ckknight`	`using any minimap buttons?`
`22:25.31`	`groll`	`well i use square minimap and moved the minimap buttons yes`
`22:25.33`	`ckknight`	`last time I asked if you wanted to test something so I could fix it, and you never ended up responding`
`22:25.46`	`groll`	`oh was prolly asleep then`
`22:26.03`	`ckknight`	`alright, I'm pretty sure that if you don't have those buttons, then it probably won't happen`
`22:26.04`	`groll`	`can try it now though :)`
`22:26.06`	`Cairenn`	`ckknight: I'm using them, having no problem`
`22:26.15`	`ckknight`	`yea, I know, Cairenn, it's odd`
`22:26.26`	`ckknight`	`ugh, my head`
`22:26.37`	`ckknight`	`I can't solve it now`
`22:26.41`	`ckknight`	`just so you know`
`22:26.49`	`groll`	`heh oke np i'll live with it :D`
`22:26.56`	`groll`	`thing is it just seem to not display`
`22:27.13`	`groll`	`i got a message from another fubar addon i got and that still worked as it should`
`22:27.29`	`groll`	`so seems that it's still there but just dont show`
`22:28.30`	`CIA-13`	`03ckknight * r1693 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - added asserts.`
`22:28.33`	`ckknight`	`test that`
`22:28.48`	`ckknight`	`it won't fix it, it'll merely let you know what's specifically wrong`
`22:29.01`	`groll`	`huh how do i use that? :P`
`22:30.15`	`groll`	`or what do you mean?`
`22:30.28`	`groll`	`is that an old debug version or what?`
`22:32.17`	`kergoth`	`CIA notifies of checkins to the subversion repository`
`22:32.27`	`kergoth`	`active development occurs there`
`22:32.33`	`groll`	`oh ok`
`22:32.38`	`kergoth`	`see the wowace.com forum posts about svn for details`
`22:32.43`	`kergoth`	`(and instructions)`
`22:32.44`	`groll`	`okidok`
`22:32.56`	`groll`	`know how to use it just didnt know it was an svn :D`
`22:33.21`	`ckknight`	`my plan is to more separate FuBar and FuBarPlugin, by having a strictly defined contract that the plugin must follow, and if it does, it would be accepted into FuBar`
`22:33.41`	`ckknight`	`I basically want to have a lot of asserts, which work as contracts`
`22:34.36`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, any ideas on if it'd be possible to add DBC (design by contract) to the OO model?`
`22:35.12`	`ckknight`	`just putting it out there as an idea`
`22:36.13`	`kergoth`	`i'm not that familiar with DBC, but i've thought about that sort of thing... typing by methods and method signatures and such`
`22:36.15`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Does anyone know if Moonkin Form is part of the GetShapeshiftFormInfo now?`
`22:36.20`	`kergoth`	`that the sort of thing you're thinking of?`
`22:37.05`	`ckknight`	`I've worked with it before, and that's pretty much what it is`
`22:37.30`	`ckknight`	`you put a contract on a method, which checks its arguments and/or return values`
`22:37.59`	`ckknight`	`a nice accompanyment to unit tests`
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`22:39.00`	`ckknight`	`it's quite handy when working with "unknown" code`
`22:39.09`	`ckknight`	`if you have a strict API`
`22:39.44`	`ckknight`	`it doesn't necessarily just check arguments and return values, actually`
`22:39.50`	`ckknight`	`it can check on conditions of the object itself`
`22:40.08`	`ckknight`	`e.g. if self.value == old(self.value) or something`
`22:40.25`	`ckknight`	`or if self.value == old(self.value) + 1`
`22:40.29`	`groll`	`ckknight gonna try to make u a new background also :D`
`22:40.34`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`22:40.43`	`groll`	`not sure how good it might be though :P`
`22:40.49`	`ckknight`	`currently it's using a tree one I found`
`22:41.15`	`groll`	`how can i change the lil yellow line one get under the bar itself? if possible`
`22:41.41`	`ckknight`	`that's the texture`
`22:41.50`	`ckknight`	`it's just in the tga`
`22:41.54`	`groll`	`ah`
`22:42.01`	`groll`	`havent checked yet :P`
`22:42.11`	`ckknight`	`get the most recent version of the texture`
`22:42.14`	`ckknight`	`it doesn't have the line`
`22:42.22`	`ckknight`	`least, I don't think so`
`22:42.26`	`ckknight`	`it's the tree one`
`22:42.38`	`ckknight`	`also, check out FuTextures on the SVN`
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`22:43.40`	`groll`	`kk`
`22:46.21`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Can you guys see why I'm getting an error expecting ) near ,?`
`22:46.21`	`LaerbeeJo`	`MyShiftingThinger = function()`
`22:46.21`	`LaerbeeJo`	`icon, name = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(1);`
`22:46.21`	`LaerbeeJo`	`if(name=="Stealth","Bear Form","Dire Bear Form","Defensive Stance") then Visor:Do("hsf=73-84 hst=1-12") elseif (name=="Cat Form","Berserker Stance") then Visor:Do("hsf=85-96 hst=1-12") elseif (name=="Moonkin Form")then Visor:Do("hsf=97-108 hst=1-12") else Visor:Do(:uns=1-12")`
`22:46.22`	`LaerbeeJo`	`end`
`22:47.25`	`ckknight`	`wtf is with that if statement`
`22:47.35`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I dunno.`
`22:47.39`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Is it wrong?`
`22:47.47`	`ckknight`	`unless the evil people haven't revealed their true nature to me yet...`
`22:48.03`	`ckknight`	`no, it's just wrong`
`22:48.22`	`LaerbeeJo`	`What's wrong with it?`
`22:48.26`	`ckknight`	`commas don't work`
`22:48.29`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh.`
`22:48.33`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I thought you had to have them.`
`22:48.47`	`ckknight`	`if name == "Stealth" or name == "Bear Form" then`
`22:49.06`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh, I have to do each separately?`
`22:49.10`	`ckknight`	`yep`
`22:49.16`	`ckknight`	`also, parentheses are evil.`
`22:49.24`	`ckknight`	`but that's more an opinion`
`22:49.27`	`LaerbeeJo`	`MyShiftingThinger = function()`
`22:49.27`	`LaerbeeJo`	`icon, name = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(1);`
`22:49.27`	`LaerbeeJo`	`if (name=="Stealth" "Bear Form" "Dire Bear Form" "Defensive Stance") then Visor:Do("hsf=73-84 hst=1-12") elseif (name=="Cat Form" "Berserker Stance") then Visor:Do("hsf=85-96 hst=1-12") elseif (name=="Moonkin Form") then Visor:Do("hsf=97-108 hst=1-12") else Visor:Do(:uns=1-12")`
`22:49.27`	`LaerbeeJo`	`end`
`22:49.32`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: nod, so things like preconditions and postconditions can be checked as well. i do wonder where one would draw the line between unit testing and those condition checks though :)`
`22:49.33`	`ckknight`	`no.`
`22:49.46`	`groll`	`ehe not the fastest svn :P`
`22:49.48`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, you should read up on DBC`
`22:49.54`	`kergoth`	`k, will do`
`22:50.02`	`ckknight`	`it's good to know about`
`22:50.14`	`ckknight`	`LaerbeeJo, you just took out commas`
`22:50.18`	`ckknight`	`instead of using or like I said`
`22:50.18`	`kergoth`	`iirc the doc i read on LSP mentioned it`
`22:50.37`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Yeah, I didn't mean to paste that here. :)`
`22:50.46`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I meant to put it back in my notepad. blush`
`22:51.24`	`kergoth`	`hehe, http://foldl.com/ and http://foldr.com/ are cute`
`22:53.47`	`LaerbeeJo`	`MyShiftingThinger = function()icon, name = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(1);if name=="Stealth" or name=="Bear Form" or name=="Dire Bear Form" or name=="Defensive Stance" then Visor:Do("hsf=73-84 hst=1-12") elseif name=="Cat Form" or name=="Berserker Stance" then Visor:Do("hsf=85-96 hst=1-12") elseif name=="Moonkin Form" then Visor:Do("hsf=97-108 hst=1-12") else Visor:Do(:uns=1-12")endend`
`22:53.57`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Oh, pooh.`
`22:54.15`	`LaerbeeJo`	`All one line?!`
`22:54.42`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Anyway, it's fixed, after that : is turned into a "`
`22:54.45`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Thanks.`
`22:54.51`	`LaerbeeJo`	`And sorry for all the screwy pastes.`
`22:55.06`	`LaerbeeJo`	`My alt-tabbing isn't as fast as I expected. ;)`
`22:55.18`	`groll`	`ckknight how do i get those textures added? just put that folder in my fubar?`
`22:56.04`	`ckknight`	`for one, it doesn't go into the FuBar folder`
`22:56.11`	`ckknight`	`it's its own addon`
`22:56.18`	`groll`	`oh ok`
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`22:57.06`	`ckknight`	`also, feel free to add a texture to that`
`22:57.14`	`ckknight`	`just put it in the folder, add it to the lua file, leave a note`
`22:57.36`	`groll`	`not sure how to do that ie upload it or such that is`
`22:57.48`	`ckknight`	`oh, you probably dom`
`22:57.52`	`ckknight`	`don't have an SVN account`
`22:57.59`	`ckknight`	`feel free to email it to me, then`
`22:58.37`	`groll`	`okies :) btw has it been released yet or such?`
`22:58.46`	`groll`	`i couldnt find it in the addons`
`22:58.52`	`groll`	`or i'm blind :P`
`22:58.53`	`kergoth`	`http://www.artima.com/intv/contracts.html is an interview with meyer about DBC, think i've got the basic concepts down now`
`22:59.14`	`ckknight`	`fully exit WoW`
`22:59.30`	`groll`	`no i mean on the website`
`22:59.45`	`ckknight`	`I don't know what you're talking about`
`22:59.53`	`groll`	`the fubartexture addin`
`22:59.55`	`groll`	`addon`
`23:00.03`	`groll`	`is it up on the website yet?`
`23:00.18`	`kergoth`	`what website?`
`23:00.23`	`haste`	`Guild: RainbowNinjaCatgirlsMeow`
`23:00.33`	`groll`	`wowinterface ofcourse`
`23:00.50`	`kergoth`	`'the website' means absolutely nothing without context`
`23:01.00`	`ckknight`	`no`
`23:01.04`	`ckknight`	`and I also post on curse`
`23:01.08`	`groll`	`ok thx :)`
`23:01.11`	`ckknight`	`FuTextures is an interal deal`
`23:01.14`	`ckknight`	`internal*`
`23:01.56`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: hmm, thinking itd be useful to be able to toggle the enforcing/testing of the context on a per method basis. public methods you'd probably want checked at all times to be able to error in a sane fashion, but internal methods wouldnt need it at release time, only development time`
`23:02.02`	`kergoth`	`~emulate me`
`23:02.04`	`purl`	`Hmm... I know I was supposed to be doing something. I wonder what it was.`
`23:02.11`	`LaerbeeJo`	`What is up with this 12?!`
`23:02.14`	`LaerbeeJo`	`I've never seen it before.`
`23:02.25`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, I completely agree`
`23:02.46`	`ckknight`	`just like you'd never turn profiling on in a release`
`23:02.57`	`kergoth`	`maybe i should pick up meyers' book, object oriented software construction`
`23:03.03`	`kergoth`	`looks like its probably worthwhile`
`23:03.50`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: speaking of which, its a pain to remove such things in such a way that it doesnt affect runtime performance for the release, unless the code is physically removed (like using a preprocessor to emit debug/release incarnations from the same codebase)`
`23:04.41`	`ckknight`	`aha, says you.`
`23:04.46`	`ckknight`	`I have found a way.`
`23:05.03`	`ckknight`	`TabletLib does it in a tricky way`
`23:05.09`	`ckknight`	`yes, very tricksy`
`23:05.23`	`ckknight`	`basically, you have a wrap function`
`23:05.33`	`ckknight`	`that you do func = wrap(func, "name")`
`23:05.44`	`ckknight`	`if DEBUG is true, then it wraps, if it's false, then it just returns the func`
`23:05.47`	`kergoth`	`ah, so you pay the overhead at init time, replacing the methods if necessary?`
`23:05.54`	`kergoth`	`rather than at call time`
`23:05.57`	`ckknight`	`yes, the overhead is incredibly small, though`
`23:06.02`	`kergoth`	`i like that`
`23:06.06`	`ckknight`	`because the wrap function itself changes`
`23:06.15`	`ckknight`	`it can be applied to namespaces (objects/classes) too`
`23:06.30`	`ckknight`	`addon = wrap(addon, addon.name)`
`23:06.39`	`ckknight`	`so it's pretty shiny.`
`23:06.47`	`kergoth`	`yeah, i was just thinking how easy itd be, having constructors at our disposal, to automatically implement such a thing under the hood`
`23:06.57`	`ckknight`	`:-)`
`23:07.05`	`ckknight`	`hehe, smiley face.`
`23:07.12`	`ckknight`	`hello little man wave`
`23:07.40`	`ckknight`	`c(:-)----<----<`
`23:07.43`	`ckknight`	`I have given him a body`
`23:07.45`	`ckknight`	`and a hat`
`23:07.50`	`LaerbeeJo`	`Hats are cool.`
`23:07.52`	`ckknight`	`superiority.`
`23:10.13`	`ckknight`	`let's say you have a class, with the prototype deal inside it`
`23:10.23`	`ckknight`	`and a method, Add`
`23:10.28`	`ckknight`	`in the prototype`
`23:10.41`	`ckknight`	`Add(a, b) -> a + b`
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`23:11.15`	`ckknight`	`what you could do is have Add_pre(a, b) check before and Add_post(a, b) check after`
`23:11.40`	`kergoth`	`a fixed list of invariants would be useful as well, which would be implicitly checked`
`23:11.44`	`ckknight`	`if you have DBC enabled for that object or the class or for Add specifically, it'll put the pre and post methods into the Add`
`23:11.48`	`ckknight`	`otherwise, it'll nil em`
`23:12.00`	`ckknight`	`fixed list of invariants?`
`23:12.06`	`Wobin_`	`kergoth: Shenme? <purl> erm, syntax file for vim, to clarify`
`23:12.17`	`kergoth`	`Wobin_: it was you that wanted that foldexpr, right?`
`23:12.21`	`kergoth`	`my memory is horrid`
`23:12.27`	`Wobin_`	`yeppers =)`
`23:12.53`	`kergoth`	`well, i got one sort of working, then slapped my forehead and added a few words to the syntax highlighting file for lua, and now foldmethod=syntax works flawlessly`
`23:13.05`	`kergoth`	`loops and functions have folds set up, as do the long format comments`
`23:13.09`	`kergoth`	`(--[[ ]])`
`23:13.32`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_invariant`
`23:13.45`	`kergoth`	`i loves you, wikipedia`
`23:13.47`	`Wobin_`	`I was kinda wondering, at what point did we want 'return' as a section ender?`
`23:13.57`	`ckknight`	`just so you know, kergoth, if you somehow get DBC in, I'll love you forever`
`23:15.01`	`kergoth`	`Wobin_: http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/browser/.vim/syntax/lua.vim?format=raw`
`23:15.06`	`kergoth`	`Wobin_: put that in your ~/.vim/syntax/`
`23:15.17`	`Wobin_`	`PS. What the hell is up with the draenei male dance?`
`23:15.22`	`kergoth`	`Wobin_: and http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/browser/.vim/after/ftplugin/lua.vim?format=raw .. put that in ~/.vim/after/ftplugin/`
`23:15.35`	`kergoth`	`thatll fix your matchwords to not include return as well`
`23:15.41`	`kergoth`	`let me know if you have any trouble with it`
`23:16.18`	`Wobin_`	`Brilliant, thank you kergoth`
`23:16.27`	`kergoth`	`np`
`23:16.37`	`kergoth`	`thanks for prodding me into looking at it`
`23:16.42`	`kergoth`	`i'm much happier with this than indent folding`
`23:16.43`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`23:16.49`	`Wobin_`	`/.vim/after/ftplugin?`
`23:17.29`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, I figure you could have explicit old values`
`23:17.36`	`ckknight`	`that can be defined in pre`
`23:17.49`	`ckknight`	`you need old values, so you can check em afterwards`
`23:18.00`	`ckknight`	`e.g. you'd do old.value = self.value`
`23:18.16`	`ckknight`	`then after the fact, you do assert(self.value == old.value + 1)`
`23:18.36`	`ckknight`	`and old would only exist in the pre/post methods`
`23:20.21`	`Wobin_`	`kergoth: Hehe, just by removing the 'return' from the syntax list, eh? =)`
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`23:22.37`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, this could be horribly complicated, but it's an idea`
`23:22.44`	`ckknight`	`have your OO model have modules to it`
`23:22.49`	`ckknight`	`one could support DBC`
`23:23.02`	`ckknight`	`may be more effort than it's worth, though`
`23:24.54`	`Wobin_`	`kergoth: I don't know what they were thinking when they put in 'return' into the delimiters in the first place`
`23:24.58`	`kergoth`	`from the matchwords? yeah, otherwise it was fine, since matchit is smarter than i thought`
`23:25.13`	`kergoth`	`i guess they thought itd be useful to jump to the various points at which you return from teh function`
`23:25.23`	`kergoth`	`but the problem is, it only jumps to returns _at that level_`
`23:25.31`	`kergoth`	`ones deeper wont get jumped to anyway`
`23:25.32`	`kergoth`	`so whats the point`
`23:25.56`	`kergoth`	`well, they will, but only if you're using % at that level`
`23:25.57`	`kergoth`	`its just silly`
`23:26.05`	`clad\|away`	`LaerbeeJo: http://ace.pastebin.com/712586`
`23:26.33`	`Wobin_`	`I wonder how difficult it would be to add the WoW API`
`23:26.42`	`Wobin_`	`to at least the highlighting`
`23:26.53`	`Wobin_`	`or keyword list`
`23:26.54`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: well, you could easily create a new class that implements DBC, then a classfactory for it, so itd behave like Class(). local myclass = DBCClass() or whatever. thats just one way, anyway`
`23:27.05`	`kergoth`	`Wobin_: its pretty painless, vim syntax files are pretty straightforward once you get the basics`
`23:27.08`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`23:27.10`	`kergoth`	`i've written them for other formats`
`23:27.26`	`ckknight`	`interesting...`
`23:27.41`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: then your DBCClass.init method would get called when you create a dbcclass, so you could modify it in ways other than the usual`
`23:27.43`	`Wobin_`	`Heh, I think the biggest problem will come from having to try and extract all the functions into a useable format from the wiki =)`
`23:27.47`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: thats how i was planning on doing read only classes`
`23:28.18`	`ckknight`	`what would read only clasess "do"?`
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`23:31.43`	`Wobin_`	`Store information?`
`23:33.02`	`ckknight`	`why does it need to be a class to do that?`
`23:35.23`	`Wobin_`	`Dunno. I'm just speculating =)`
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`23:38.09`	`Wobin_`	`Or maybe just for information that the original coder doesn't want modified`
`23:38.22`	`Wobin_`	`But it seems overkill for our system`
`23:38.39`	`Wobin_`	`like we're not actuallly dealing with any sort of sensitive data`
`23:39.11`	`Wobin_`	`ckknight: Any way to put a 'close window' button on the right of my tab bar?`
`23:39.14`	`Wobin_`	`in Opera?`
`23:39.29`	`ckknight`	`instead of on the tab itself?`
`23:39.36`	`Wobin_`	`I'm sick of accidentally closing a tab when double clicking`
`23:39.41`	`Wobin_`	`yeah`
`23:39.55`	`groll`	`woohoo time to check my texture ckknight :D`
`23:40.15`	`ckknight`	`Wobin_, not sure you can take the x's off the tabs`
`23:40.19`	`ckknight`	`but you can add a close button`
`23:40.21`	`ckknight`	`apparently.`
`23:40.31`	`Wobin_`	`Oh you can, but that means you have to rightclick and select close for each one`
`23:40.41`	`ckknight`	`oh`
`23:40.42`	`Wobin_`	`Which gets irritaitng after a while if you want to close a lot of them`
`23:40.45`	`ckknight`	`well, you can add a close button`
`23:40.48`	`ckknight`	`also, ctrl-w works`
`23:41.10`	`ckknight`	`okay, I found a close button`
`23:41.28`	`ckknight`	`tools, appearance, buttons, my buttons, close`
`23:41.31`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: it has to do with our mixins. if i'm writing an addon, i want to create myself an object from a class that has mixins A, B, and C.. i'm not going to be changing the class, only the object, the class only exists to bind its type to the mixin functionality we need. so there'll be a pool of read only classes, indexed by the mixins.`
`23:41.40`	`cladhaire`	`evening all`
`23:41.48`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, hrm`
`23:41.50`	`ckknight`	`hey cladhaire`
`23:42.05`	`cladhaire`	`but i had a great time last night`
`23:42.20`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: its essentially a class cache, to avoid forcing addon developers to create their own addon classes.`
`23:42.23`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`23:42.25`	`kergoth`	`hey clad`
`23:42.42`	`kergoth`	`ckknight: anyway, since they're global, we need to ensure they dont get inadvertantly modified`
`23:43.19`	`Wobin_`	`ckknight: hrm, I'll have to try and download it =) My MyButtons category is empty =)`
`23:44.19`	`groll`	`cknight it says no textframe found if that is what ur talking about kinda`
`23:44.28`	`groll`	`line 319`
`23:44.58`	`ckknight`	`groll, does it give a plugin name?`
`23:45.02`	`ckknight`	`that was the whole point`
`23:45.27`	`groll`	`nope not that error atleast. but i just noticed that one of my "minimap buttons" got an error aswell`
`23:45.33`	`groll`	`so disablin that`
`23:45.51`	`ckknight`	`which means that private.plugins has a non-plugin in it.`
`23:47.22`	`CIA-13`	`03ratbert * r1694 10BagBoy/ (6 files): (log message trimmed)`
`23:47.22`	`CIA-13`	`BagBoy:`
`23:47.22`	`CIA-13`	`Reworked FuBar support for great happiness!`
`23:47.22`	`CIA-13`	`Added three new functions: /bagboy sell-Trash-Bank dummy, which will report what it would do for each run`
`23:47.22`	`CIA-13`	`Added FuBar menu items for the dummy runs`
`23:47.23`	`CIA-13`	`Added FuBar menu item to manually run a trash cycle`
`23:47.25`	`CIA-13`	`Added reporting to all cycles, and options to disable reporting`
`23:48.02`	`groll`	`hmm what u mean ckknight?`
`23:48.14`	`groll`	`now when i disabled that addon i got another error from ace`
`23:48.38`	`groll`	`posting in a sec`
`23:49.13`	`groll`	`http://www.pastebin.com/712622 there u got ckknight`
`23:49.25`	`Wobin_`	`ckknight: http://nontroppo.org/wiki/CustomButtons <-- Brilliant page`
`23:50.46`	`ckknight`	`groll, empty`
`23:51.37`	`groll`	`doh`
`23:51.53`	`groll`	`http://wow.pastebin.com/712622 there u go`
`23:52.27`	`CIA-13`	`03tekkub * r1695 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (5 files in 2 dirs): SpecialEventsEmbed - Added Aura module (finally!)`
`23:52.40`	`ckknight`	`hooray, tekkub`
`23:53.23`	`groll`	`and damn my texture looks ugly :P need some more info on how to make them :P`
`23:53.30`	`Tekkub`	`^^`
`23:54.02`	`ckknight`	`sk away, groll`
`23:54.26`	`Tekkub`	`hey ckk, Fubar inits Gratuity on loadup, right?`
`23:54.38`	`Tekkub`	`or do I need to set the tooltip in it just in case?`
`23:54.40`	`ckknight`	`right`
`23:54.43`	`groll`	`well what happend was that it did work, but i made it exactly as the other ones in size etc but it looked a whole lot bigger on the screen than the rest ckknight`
`23:54.48`	`ckknight`	`Fu`
`23:54.59`	`ckknight`	`FuBar provides a tooltip and inits Gratuity`
`23:55.40`	`groll`	`oh aha 24bit :P`
`23:55.41`	`groll`	`doh`
`23:56.37`	`Tekkub`	`okey kewlness`
`23:58.09`	`groll`	`get any understanding about the error ckknight?`
`23:58.37`	`groll`	`did you mean that there is some plugin that screw up?`

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