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00:00.39Ratbert_CPI'm using FuBar 1.1.1563, and BagBoy's tooltip isn't working.
00:01.41ckknightyea
00:01.42ckknightI know
00:01.49ckknightuse a more recent version
00:01.55ckknightyou know, the one with all the 1.0 compat fixes
00:02.39Ratbert_CPWell, since I'm developing against it, I'm using the latest release... ;)
00:03.21kergothhttp://kergoth.com/wowcolorbits.png :) /me 's lua interpreter's print() function parses wow color codes and converts them to escape chars for color in his X terminal
00:03.21ckknightis that the latest release?
00:03.28ckknightwhatever, get the SVN
00:03.32ckknightsee if there's problems
00:06.10Ratbert_CPThat seems to have done it.
00:06.31Ratbert_CPTooltip is back!
00:06.54ckknightbtw, the latest release is 1.1.1594
00:07.11ckknightquote the changelog
00:07.14ckknight1.1.1565:
00:07.14ckknightfixed 1.0 compatibility issues with FuBarTooltip
00:09.06Ratbert_CPI just re-D/L'ed FuBar from WoWI, and it was 1.1.1563...
00:09.13CIA-1303tekkub * r1629 10BigWigs/ (. BigWigs.toc): (log message trimmed)
00:09.13CIA-13BigWigs - Okey children... *activate parental mode*
00:09.13CIA-13hand: Shyva set up seperate methods for not-korean locale, and I much prefer
00:09.13CIA-13that method. You're locale is different and needs a different method, we
00:09.13CIA-13undersatnd that. Please don't change anything that requires you to edit the
00:09.13CIA-13english locales, just use the "if GetLocale() == "koKR" trick that Shva put in
00:09.17CIA-13some time back. That will load your method if it's your locale, or the original
00:09.17Tekkubhehe
00:09.28Tekkubgo CIA go!
00:09.30Ratbert_CPAt least, that's what the about text indicated
00:14.47cladhairewow.. nanostats is great
00:14.58cladhaireits so... nano
00:15.03kergothyep, that it is. just needs some fine tuning
00:16.36*** join/#wowace Tem_ (n=Tem@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net)
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00:17.55cladhaireTem, why do you like standby mode?
00:18.14*** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce4.disney.com)
00:18.16Tembecause I can turn off addons
00:18.19Temwithout reloading
00:18.34Temdenial is a good example
00:18.58cladhairehrm.. i just think its a clunky method.. but i gotcha =)
00:19.06kergothclunky?
00:19.22cladhaireyeah, force unregister all events, force unhook all hooks.
00:19.43cladhairei guess i just normaly have disable type stuff in my addons.
00:20.08Temwe don't have to force unhook and unregister
00:20.25Temhmm
00:20.30TemI glad you brought this up
00:20.36TemI just realized a bug in FinderReminder
00:20.37cladhairenoi it sokay
00:20.38cladhairei was just curious
00:20.42kergothah.  well, in 2.0 i suppose we can do the unhook/unregister in the default Disable method for the class, so if you write a disable method, taht wont happen unless you want it to
00:20.46kergothhm
00:21.09kergothmeh, so many people are misunderstanding the usage of vim's new tab functionality
00:21.42cladhairei was going to look at that today
00:22.18kergothpeople want to use one tab per file, like its firefox
00:22.40Temisn't that what it's for?
00:22.47kergothbut vim tabs are heavy, they arent just for files, each tab contains your entire window environment, so if you have 5 windows arranged just so, and open a new tab, that tab is a clean slate, just the one main window
00:22.53Tem(/me hasn't looked at vim7's new stuff at all)
00:22.54kergothits more for seperate _workspaces_ or _projects_ than files
00:23.19kergothyou can open multiple files and switch between them within a single tab with a tab like interface using a buffer explorer plugin, no need for tabs if thats all you want
00:25.51Temcladhaire: I think I like standby mode more because it standardizes the enable/disable process between everything that uses it
00:26.07Temcladhaire: also because it gets people to support that type of behaviour
00:26.20Temanyway, time for me to run a few errands
00:26.37kergothheh, http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/dn9124-robotic-tentacles-get-to-grips-with-tricky-objects.html makes one think of dr octavius from spiderman 2
00:26.51CIA-1303tekkub * r1630 10MountMe/ItemSwap.lua:
00:26.51CIA-13MountMe - Fixing logic bug in the item testing methods
00:26.51CIA-13http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=10&a=viewbugreport&bugid=1052
00:29.52CIA-1303tekkub * r1631 10FuBar_LootTyFu/FuBar_LootTyFu.toc:
00:29.52CIA-13FuBar_LootTyFu - TOC update
00:29.52CIA-13http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=10&a=viewbug&bugid=1051
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00:47.33Tekkub*yarn*
00:47.43Tekkubstupid highschool kiddies at work
00:48.38Tekkubit's kinda sad, they come in, make gay jokes kinda at me, think they're funny just because, it could be anyone they're making fun of... then they wander off and the managers and I make fun of them for being so stupid and oblivious
00:49.06kergothkids these days.
00:49.08cladhairehehe
00:49.10cladhaire<3
00:49.25Tekkubwell you know, everything is "gay" anymore
00:49.29kergothgar, how exactly do i tell my grandma to stop forwarding this stupid crap to me all the time, but nicely?
00:49.38TekkubI still fail to understand that language trend
00:49.41kergothi'm sick of spam coming from relatives
00:49.59Tekkubkerg: set a filter that deletes any forwarded email
00:50.11TekkubI did that years ago, oh so happy
00:50.16kergothcant, i get legitimate forwards.  i'd rather -inform- them though
00:50.25kergothcourse i could block all forwards from -them-
00:50.42Tekkubthen filter the subject and sender
00:51.03Tekkubbetter yet, bounce them back at them :)
00:51.13kergothi'm quite surprised spamassassin didnt nail it. i should tweak its weighting ;)
00:51.37Cairennman, my computer was NOT happy just now
00:51.43Tekkub"This user does not accept random forwarding, please stop, he doesn't care about your chainletterspam, it's not cute, nor funny"
00:52.31Tekkub"If you continue to send it, you will be blacklisted and no mail will be received, you've been warned
00:52.54TekkubI've had to do that to a number of people really
00:53.21Tekkubusually a simple "remove me from your mass-forwarding list" will suffice
00:54.10kergothi'm tempted to reply-to-all with:
00:54.10kergothPlease stop sending unsolicited forwards to everyone on your address book.
00:54.10kergothSpam should be opt-in, not opt-out.
00:54.50Tekkubthat would work too
00:55.10Tekkubbut then everyone knows you're a pissy bitch
00:55.14Tekkubnot just the sender
00:57.39kergoththat would be the point.  then anyone else out there that doesnt want to see this shit might get the courage to say something instead of funneling it all into a trash mailbox
00:58.27Tekkubso shut up and do it already :)
01:07.12kergothhehe, today's thedailywtf is amusing
01:07.17kergothisNull() and isVeryNull()
01:09.07cladhairehahah thats awesome.
01:10.22CIA-1303tekkub * r1632 10MountMe/Core.lua:
01:10.22CIA-13MountMe - Should fix Warriors being unable to mount. Also tweaked class checking to be locale-independant
01:10.22CIA-13http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=10&a=viewbug&bugid=1012
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01:17.17Tainhahah isVeryNull
01:22.22Tekkubcures v2 is going live, cool :)
01:22.57Tekkubcurse curse cursecursecursecurse curse curse     cursecurse!
01:23.21TainFoiled agaion
01:24.53Tainhehe http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/
01:26.02weab2why would that annoy anyone Tekkub
01:26.11weab2and wtf is wrong with my name
01:26.15weab2lousy extra digit
01:26.26Tekkubcause of text-matching pager features in IRC clients....
01:27.14TainI'm just glad I never used that paging nonsense.
01:27.26TainNothing worse than people bugging you with annoying beeps
01:28.19Tekkubyea like the damn sounds in gtalk
01:28.28Tekkubhubby: badonk badonk badonk badonk badonk badonk
01:28.37Tekkubme: STFU I DON'T CARE!
01:28.51TainBlah Juggernaut looks kinda crappy in X3
01:28.58TainWell, skinny.
01:29.21TekkubI still wish they'd have gon with Rhade (sp?) over Fraiser for Beastie
01:29.32Tekkubbut meh, sexxy furry bitch either way
01:29.42TainI don't know, I think that was some of the best casting in a movie in years.
01:30.08TainThey had to make up for Halle Berry afterall.
01:30.15Tekkubin the end either one is covered in makeup and blue yiffy suit so who cares I guess
01:31.34Kaeltenello
01:31.40Cairennhi Kaelten
01:32.13Kaeltenhey cair
01:32.37ckknighthey Kaelten
01:32.54Kaeltenhey ck
01:50.10TainWow.  BulkMail is pretty cool.
01:50.19Tekkubit workie now?
01:50.29cladhairedoes it work"
01:50.30TainI dunno worked for me just now.  errr
01:50.33cladhairei haven't had good experiences with it.
01:50.34TainWell it did something
01:50.46Tekkub"It did something... COOL!"
01:50.47TainI suppose I should withhold judgement until things show up at their destination.
01:55.42Tekkubokey I'm thinking about making that tranqshot mod again... need a damn name tho :)
01:55.58Cairennsnoozebutton
01:56.07Tekkubsince Cair said DartInYourAss wouldn't be allowed on WoWI
01:56.47TekkubMaybe I'll just name it K
02:00.29TekkubSomnifacient
02:00.46CodayusHmm, I like snoozebutton.  :-)
02:01.17TekkubMayCauseDrowsiness ?
02:09.24Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4773
02:10.15Cairennfeel free to input
02:10.22Cairennjust keep it civil
02:12.42cladhairealready posted =)
02:12.43cladhairelol
02:13.16*** join/#wowace LaerbeeJo (n=elektric@c-71-199-19-64.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
02:13.20LaerbeeJoGood lord.
02:13.28LaerbeeJoThere's bazzillions of you in here.
02:13.32cladhairelol
02:13.45LaerbeeJoClad!
02:13.49LaerbeeJoI know you.
02:13.50Temcladhaire
02:13.51Cairennnaw, come hang out in #wowi-lounge, that's bazzillions
02:13.54Temyou pwnt that guy
02:13.55Cairenn;)
02:14.05LaerbeeJoOMG, Cair too.
02:14.13LaerbeeJoWow, celebrities.
02:14.15LaerbeeJoThis is SO cool.
02:14.25LaerbeeJoOkay, so I have a question about Visor...
02:14.32LaerbeeJoIs there someplace special I should go?
02:15.06Tekkuboreo?
02:15.14TekkubI'm not famous, bum
02:15.32LaerbeeJoRECEIVE BACON!
02:15.41LaerbeeJoOh, wow.  I'm sooooooo impressed.
02:15.46LaerbeeJoThis is better than a trip to LA>
02:15.51LaerbeeJoErr, . even
02:16.21TekkubLA sucks
02:16.23LaerbeeJoSo, for some reason now, when I log into WoW, I get an error from Visor.  Sec and I'll paste it.
02:16.27LaerbeeJoI dunno, I've never been.
02:16.36Tekkubme neither
02:16.39Tekkubstill sucks tho
02:17.08LaerbeeJoProlly so.
02:17.12LaerbeeJo*looks wise*
02:17.30netcursehttp://www.curse-gaming.com/ :p
02:17.37Tekkubeet up?
02:17.41netcursesoOOn -
02:17.48LaerbeeJoOkay, so it's blah-blah-blah\Visor\Core\VisorCore.lua:74 attempt to call a nil value
02:17.58LaerbeeJoAnd I've no idea what I've done to cause that.
02:18.08LaerbeeJo'Cause it wasn't doing that when I first downloaded it...
02:18.18Tekkubdon't call nil, you need to plug in the phone number you want to call
02:18.22LaerbeeJoSo, I'm thinking it's all the LUA examples I copied off the forums.
02:18.52LaerbeeJoBut I dunno where to look, exactly.
02:19.05Tekkub"for _, v in self.args do
02:19.05Tekkub"
02:19.07Tekkubhrm...
02:19.24LaerbeeJoErm, would I just do best to remove each piece of LUA thinger 'til I get the error to stop?
02:19.41LaerbeeJoKinda like how I check to see which mod broke on Patch Day? ;)
02:19.50Tekkubput a print("blah") in your lua like in the middle
02:20.01Tekkubsee if it prints before the error fires
02:20.17Tekkubkeep moving it around till it does, the line after that is the problem
02:20.25LaerbeeJoOoh, okay.
02:20.26Tekkubor pastebin your code :)
02:20.34LaerbeeJoPastebin?
02:20.58TekkubSilver....
02:21.07TekkubI keep meaning to ask...
02:21.11[CU]SilverSHrm?
02:21.15Tekkubwhy is your name Copper Silver?
02:21.24Temif, the table you "pass" to the generic for is nil, you will get an "Attempt to call a nil value" error
02:21.37Tems/,//
02:22.04TekkubOr was that Carbon Uranium Silver
02:22.11Temif it's in fact that line causing the error, then the table self.args is nil
02:22.47Tem(or posibly not a table at all.  I don't remember the error for a non table value)
02:23.03LaerbeeJoYeah...I've no idea what that means.
02:23.15Tekkubheh
02:23.20Tekkubpastebin your code
02:23.26cladhaireLaerbeeJo: Go to http://ace.pastebin.com
02:23.27LaerbeeJoI dunno what a pastebin is either.
02:23.30Tekkubhe'll prolly see what's wrong instantly
02:23.30LaerbeeJoOh.
02:23.34cladhaireand you can post the relevant section of code
02:23.38cladhairewith pretty syntax highlighting =)
02:23.55LaerbeeJoUm, okay.
02:24.02LaerbeeJoThanks boys 'n girls.
02:25.34LaerbeeJoSooo, I took out all those LUA examples I got from the Visor thread and the error is gone.
02:25.47Tekkubhrm.... /golfclap
02:25.49LaerbeeJoSo, I should put 'em back in one by one 'til the error comes back, correct?
02:25.58LaerbeeJoAnd then pastebin the one that causes it?
02:26.05Temah, if it's a non-table value, you'd get "Attempt to call a string/number value" depending on the type
02:26.10Tekkubor you could pastebin and I bet the error would be spotted a lot faster
02:26.13Temnot sure what it would do for userdata
02:26.27cladhaireLaerbeeJo: Put the code around the linenumber of Visor that you're using.
02:27.05LaerbeeJoSay what?
02:27.19LaerbeeJo*feels so dumb*  I don't understand half of what you guys say.
02:27.28LaerbeeJoAnd I'm not stupid, I swear!
02:27.50Tekkubwhy do I keep reading "LazerBJ"?
02:28.00cladhairehahah
02:28.03LaerbeeJoHeh, I dunno.  It's pronounced LurbyJo.
02:28.26LaerbeeJoBut LazerBJ is kinda good too, I'd guess.
02:28.27LaerbeeJo^.^
02:28.27TekkubI'll just refer to you by my ex's nickname
02:28.28cladhaireLaerbeeJo: You posted an errror in VisorCore on line 74.. find line 74 (use control-g in notepad, or something like that) and post the code around that
02:28.39TekkubMC 900ft green lazer Dave
02:28.58LaerbeeJoBut the error was gone when I removed the LUA examples I put in.
02:29.07LaerbeeJoSo I don't think it's Visor...
02:29.12*** topic/#wowace by Cairenn -> wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | I survived Gnomeregan! And only suffered minor drain bamage!
02:29.18Cairennthere, happy now Tekkub?
02:29.23Tekkubthank you!  you're slow cair
02:29.43Tekkubguess it's all that drain bamage
02:30.34cladhairerm
02:30.39cladhairethen try the trial and error stuff.
02:30.46cladhaireit'll at least put you in the right direction.
02:31.29LaerbeeJoAll righty.  I'm sorry if I'm being dense or missing something obvious in what you're saying.
02:31.46cladhaireYou're not =)
02:31.50Tekkubpastebin!
02:31.53CairennLaerbeeJo: don't worry, they speak a language all their own 3/4 of the time ... you catch on after a while
02:32.28Tekkuboh yea, let me switch to my special speak...
02:32.40Tem~whaleslap Tekkub
02:32.42purlACTION beats Tekkub upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
02:32.44Temdon't start
02:33.07Temoh LaerbeeJo, be warned; we're all a bit... odd... at times.
02:33.21cladhairethats one way to put it.
02:33.31cladhairebut LaerbeeJo has put up with me for long enough
02:33.35Cairenn~whaleparry Tem
02:33.37purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Tem's attacks.
02:33.39Temshh! I'm trying to warn him without scaring him off
02:33.53cladhaire~emulate Tem
02:33.54purlDammit, that's it. I'm breaking a new [something]!
02:34.14TekkubY.m nct.o yr ogjt xci unrllf erbt.f ecjt
02:34.27cladhairesomeone kick him please.
02:34.30TemTekkub: is that B.Net language?
02:34.31Tekkuband Edwardo isn't a whale
02:34.36Tekkubnope Temmy
02:34.42Tembecause it sure looks like it
02:34.51TekkubNOPE!
02:35.08Tekkubit's Qwerty >> Dvorak typed on a Dvor keyboard :)
02:35.37LaerbeeJoSorry, I was off screwing with those thingers.
02:35.39Tekkubso it's like, componunded Dvorak I guess
02:35.52LaerbeeJoI've always wanted a Dvorak keyboard.  I dunno if I could learn it, though.
02:35.58TemI never did get the hang of the dvorak keyboards
02:36.01LaerbeeJoI've been QWERTYing too long. :\
02:36.06Temindeed
02:36.24Tekkubtis easy, just need a few weeks where bad typing doesn't matter and you don't have to use Qwerty at work or whatever
02:36.52LaerbeeJoHA!  I found it.
02:37.05LaerbeeJoIt's the Keybindings example somebody gave.
02:37.37Temmeh, too lazy
02:37.51Tekkubit might be hard Tem, the tool I used was meant for a QWERTY keyboard, I thnk...
02:37.55CairennTem? Lazy? perish the though!
02:38.09Tem|AFKI admit t
02:38.10Tem|AFKit
02:38.16Cairenn<3
02:38.36Tekkubhere, proper D>Q ... "Kdm pgvd; ks ;fiv ngu ypsrrt hslvdt hgiv"
02:39.24CairennI don't know that I'd *ever* be able to switch to Dvorak
02:39.31Cairennnight clad|sleep, sweet dreams
02:39.33LaerbeeJoSo now that I pastebinned it, do I have to tell someone?
02:39.33TekkubIpahq; a ngu jsms
02:39.41LaerbeeJoOr do people just randomly come over and look at that?
02:39.43Cairennand clad|sleep? thanks
02:39.44Tekkublinky!
02:39.48CairennLaerbeeJo: link to it
02:39.56LaerbeeJohttp://ace.pastebin.com/706736
02:39.59clad|sleepCairenn: Anytime =)
02:40.09Tekkubhere's your problem!
02:41.20Tekkubhrm.. I don't see an issue there...
02:41.31Tekkuboh wait
02:41.48TekkubVisor:SetupFrame
02:41.53Tekkubnot Visor:SetupFrameisor:Do
02:41.59clad|sleepwhoa
02:42.09Tekkubgah
02:42.14Tekkubnot Visor:Do
02:43.17LaerbeeJoAll righty.  And my last question was is there a way to show the numpad stuff as N1 instead of NP?
02:43.31LaerbeeJoIt all gets squished and can't be read on my teeny buttons.
02:43.31Tekkubgsub(t, "NUMPAD", "N")
02:43.38Tekkubor I'd use gsub(t, "NUMPAD", "#")
02:43.42LaerbeeJoSweet.
02:43.53LaerbeeJoI'd changed that before, but changed it back 'cause i thought I broke it.
02:43.54LaerbeeJoErr, I.
02:43.57kergothdamnit. i was all set to hack on lua code but got distracted by starting another project and brushing up on my glib and gtk
02:44.06kergothnot enough hours in the day
02:44.32Tekkubvdouskj ,jgld; kss mfij
02:45.00LaerbeeJoI still get the error.
02:45.39LaerbeeJoI amended the pastebin thing with what I have now.
02:45.49LaerbeeJohttp://ace.pastebin.com/706746
02:46.06Tekkubhrm... you may need to erase your DB, could be something else bad in there causing an issue
02:47.03LaerbeeJoIf I take out that function, the error is gone.
02:47.43LaerbeeJoUm...I feel really stupid now, but...
02:48.14LaerbeeJoIf I HAVE no Visor buttons, would that cause that sort of error?
02:49.55LaerbeeJoYeah, that was it.
02:50.06LaerbeeJoI'm the dumbest girl alive.
02:50.31CIA-1303ckknight * r1633 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - added more error checking.
02:50.50ckknightno rebuttals from this direction
02:50.52LaerbeeJoI <3 FuBar.
02:51.03ckknightalright
02:51.04ckknightgood stuff
02:51.08LaerbeeJoOkay, I'll go FanClub someplace else now.
02:51.13LaerbeeJoThanks for all the help, guys.
02:51.14LaerbeeJo<3
02:51.19ckknightgonna upload the new version
02:51.28LaerbeeJoAnd it was really neato to cyber-meet you guys.
02:51.35LaerbeeJoExtra coolness!
02:51.36LaerbeeJo*waves*
02:52.19CodayusExtra coolness?
02:52.29CodayusI...see...
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03:02.27*** topic/#wowace is wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | I survived Gnomeregan! And only suffered minor drain bamage!
03:02.32Tekkuboh, like a new feature, anchor to MM instead of bar
03:02.33ckknightI think I'll actually just allow FuBar to have 0 bars, and allow plugins to attach to minimap
03:02.38ckknightyea
03:03.01Tekkubwell then yea, if you don't have any feature plans it's prolly good to leave as is
03:03.14CairennI *so* want to be able to put aspect and tracking back on the side of my minimap
03:03.20ckknightyea
03:03.22ckknightnot yet
03:03.23ckknight...later
03:03.25Tekkubmight motivate me to get all my plugins up to date for good then
03:03.27TekkubMIGHT :)
03:03.33ckknightI dunno
03:03.37ckknightI guess I'm not doing anything now
03:03.41TekkubCair: that's the two I want too :)
03:04.15TekkubI mant the author to put in clicky support on those too, and maybe icon blinking
03:04.27ckknightblinking?
03:04.28ckknighthrm
03:04.38Tekkuboh that reminds me, I need to write a mod that queues some spells in KeyQ when you rez
03:04.52Tekkubyea: blink if no aspect or tracking
03:05.00ckknightwell
03:05.02ckknightoff to wark
03:05.05ckknightwork*
03:05.05Tekkublike BCNM(sp?)_TrackingMenu
03:05.09ckknightnah, leave it as wark.
03:05.15Tekkubkweh!
03:05.19Tem|AFKoh LOL
03:05.25Tem|AFKhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=375654
03:05.42Tem|AFKyay for your cookies getting cleared
03:06.04Tem(and the forums picking a random character to post with)
03:12.55Temaww does no one like the Moo Crew?
03:13.02ckknightmoo crew?
03:15.13Temhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=375654
03:15.17TemThe last post in that thread
03:15.32Temthe forums picked a random alt for me
03:15.43ckknightmoobacca.
03:16.01Temwe had loads of em
03:16.07Temgot about 20
03:16.13Temran em all to IF and died
03:22.54TemThings like "KungMoo" "MooShizzle"
03:23.01TemSpiderMoo
03:23.07TemMoolester
03:23.14Temit was great
03:23.35Tem(and a long time ago.  almost a year now... perhaps that's why it's actually funny to me)
03:33.02ckknightMoolester
03:34.55CIA-1303kaelten * r1634 10KC_Items/ (. chatlink/chatlink.lua chatlink/locals.lua):
03:34.55CIA-13KC_Items:Chatlink > Added a safe mode for link typing (/kci chatlink mode).
03:34.55CIA-13When enabled you must use $ as an escape character preceding the link. i.e. $[cloak of fire]
03:36.45Kaeltenthat should give people the best of both worlds
03:38.46KaeltenI wish posting to wowi, was as easy as commiting to svn
03:38.51Kaelten:)
03:39.20ckknightKaelten, that's why I want Dolby to get that backend upload thing
03:39.23ckknightthus, it will be that easy
03:39.51Kaeltenthat'll be awesome
03:40.08Kaeltenck, you couldn't help me to get those python scripts working on windows, could you?
03:41.18ckknightone's a bash script
03:41.26Kaeltenk, so that won't help me
03:41.29ckknightand no, I won't be publishing, cause it's so horribly hackish
03:41.34ckknightI'm waiting for Dolby
03:41.38ckknightthen I'll be sure to publish
03:41.43Kaeltenlol
03:41.57Kaeltenhas dolby given any kinda time frame? or even an agreement to put it up?
03:42.22Tekkub*rants about "the Ace stereotype" on WoWI.....*
03:45.02CairennKaelten: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4685
03:45.12Cairennand no, no time frame ... remember, he's at E3 this week
03:45.41CairennTekkub: sorry, but the stereotype is based on history, it takes time for people to forget things like that
03:45.50TekkubI know it is
03:45.53Cairennthe only way you can change it is to keep your cool
03:46.04Tekkuband I think Rowne was a big part of that history
03:46.11Tekkubor at least a LOUD part of it
03:46.19CairennRowne was the majority of it
03:46.21Tekkubpeople notice loud people :)
03:46.27KaeltenI've been reading it just keeping out of it so far
03:46.38Tekkubbut yea, I totally agree with Gello re:Timex
03:46.56TekkubRowne: "Timex is bettor cause I wrote it"
03:47.05TekkubI mean, SRLSY!
03:47.14TemRowne was, eeuh, indescrete
03:47.33TekkubRowne was... I don't know how to phrase it
03:47.42Tekkubhe wanted to improve things
03:47.52Temthough, I did find it really funny when AndinLothar tried to make it look like we stole HookScript from Sea
03:48.01Tekkubbut didn't always make sure what he was doing WAS an improvement
03:48.09TemRowne had a really funny reply to that
03:48.25Tem*cough* Visor *cough*
03:48.33TekkubAndin is on my Saien list :P
03:48.42Temhe's not *that* bad
03:49.03TemEvery once in a while he has an intelligent discussion in the other chanel
03:49.10Tekkubnah but it doesn't make sense to have a Saien list with one name on it and an Andin list with one name on it
03:49.19Tekkubokey fine, I'll change my lists...
03:49.23Temlo
03:49.38TekkubAndin is "On notice", Saien is "Dead to me"
03:49.51Temhah
03:49.58Tekkubyea, Colbert's system works muuuuch better, I like it
03:50.12TekkubI just don't understand all the bear-hate in that man
03:50.25TekkubI bet a bear ate his puppy when he was 6
03:50.48Kaeltenone downfall of rowne is that once his mind was made up it was easier to kick a US president out of office than to change Rowne's mind
03:53.02Tekkubthat's it
03:53.10Tekkubhe was a stubborn dick
03:53.18Tekkubthat's the phrase I was looking for
03:53.23Kaeltenerr, basically
03:53.38KaeltenI was trying to be a bit more diplomatic
03:53.57Tekkubfuck diplomacy :)
03:54.19Kaeltenoh here is  a small bit of revelation
03:54.24netcurseme no sleeps since to much hours now
03:54.26SilverShadowSOO CLOSE!!!
03:54.36SilverShadowso so so close!
03:54.39TemTekkub: you might want to edit your post a bit
03:54.49TemCurse: ETA?
03:54.49KaeltenAceState is largely based on some of rowne's early work
03:54.50netcursei m going to sleep bye silver you finish the migration
03:54.52Tekkubtoo rambly?
03:54.56CodayusKaelten: Hmm, a US congresscritter might be a better example, given their releection rate and lack of term limits...
03:55.01SilverShadowan hour or less.
03:55.02netcurse:>
03:55.03TemTekkub: no, one part is a little unclear.  Lemme find it again
03:55.07SilverShadowNO!!!
03:55.10netcursekiding
03:55.14Codayus(Yay, irrelevent comments FTW.)
03:55.34Kaeltenlol, wearing you two down yet?
03:55.37Tekkubhey curse: are we there yet?  are we there yet?  are we there yet?  are we there yet?  are we there yet?  are we there yet?  are we there yet?  are we there yet?  are we there yet?  are we there yet?  
03:55.50TemTekkub: last full paragraph first sentence
03:55.55netcursehttp://www.curse-gaming.com/
03:56.05netcursebeen updating this every 15 mins!
03:56.10Kaeltenlol
03:56.25TemTekkub: I had to read that sentence 4 ish times to really understand what you meant
03:56.41Tekkubyea net....
03:56.49Tekkub"Curse: Updating..."
03:56.53Tekkub"Curse: Updating......"
03:56.55Tekkub"Curse: Updating.........."
03:56.56Tekkub"Curse: Updating.........."
03:56.59netcurse:D:D
03:57.07netcursethat s how freebsd work
03:57.21netcurserecompiling.........
03:57.24netcurserecompiling....................
03:57.32CairennTekkub: part of the reason why you guys continue to have the stereotype?  read this with a *prejudiced* eye:  http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1336.msg21840.html#msg21840
03:57.43Tekkubbetter?
03:57.44Kaeltenone day I want it to say now loading......
03:57.47Kaeltennow loading.....
03:57.52Kaeltenkeep waiting sucker........
03:58.38Tekkubhehe, yea there's moon using difinitives
03:58.43TekkubI hate difinitives
03:58.51TemTekkub: you didn't make a change to the sentence I was talking about
03:59.04Tekkub"better code in general" ... "We try to write better code"
03:59.22Tekkubdefine "full paragraph" then or just quote me
03:59.41Tem"I know the general view of the Ace crew is..."
03:59.52Tekkubthat's what I changed
04:00.05TemI don't see anything different
04:00.12Tekkubbah
04:00.12TemI'm not observant enough ><
04:00.18Tekkub*rewrites*
04:00.30CairennI understand that Moon was trying to improve the image and explain the stance, but unfortunately, if you read it with a *prejudiced* eye, it still comes across as superior
04:00.42Cairennso it doesn't actually help
04:00.53Cairenna lot of it *could*, with some rewording
04:01.05Tekkubbetter?
04:01.06Cairenn"the difference is how we use it"
04:01.15Kaeltenwhich is why I don't talk much :) I do enough to make us look bad
04:01.23Tekkubyea Cair, I know
04:01.39Tekkubit come across as "we are better" not "we try to be better"
04:01.52Cairennunfortunately ...
04:01.57Tekkubtherin lies the whole stereotype
04:02.14Cairennand if you are reading it with the stereotype already in mind ...
04:02.50Tekkubas I said, I always try to avoid definatives.  I don't know anything for certain ever, I'm not going to lie to people and say "oh yes, most definatly"
04:02.53TemBetter?
04:04.02Cairenngetting there Tem
04:04.16Temany other thoughts?
04:04.37Cairenn"The same can be said about Sea/MCom/ect...  The difference is how we use it." - get rid of everything after the ...
04:05.01Cairenn"The Ace community has an extrememly low tolerance for wasteful code" - reword, sounds "superior"
04:05.08Tekkubheh, just erase his whole post and copy my post a few down from it :)
04:05.14Cairennno
04:05.18Cairennit isn't a bad post
04:05.18Temheh, those are actually my words
04:05.24Tekkubsee even then I was trying to reverse this damn stereotype
04:05.26Cairennand there are parts that are actually really good
04:05.41Cairennjust, there are parts that, again, come across as "superiour"
04:05.51Cairennwhich destroys the entire purpose of it
04:06.09Cairennyes, I know, I'm being nit-picky
04:06.13Cairennbut, this is what I do
04:06.28Tekkubdamn you woman!
04:06.40CairennI'm an admin assistant by training and PR by experience
04:06.48Tekkubyea yea yea
04:06.50Kaeltenand a hottie
04:06.55Kaelten:)
04:06.55hyperChipmunkdude
04:06.55Tekkubyou know how to please people
04:06.57CairennKaelten: you had your chance
04:07.00Tekkub*hint hint*
04:07.02Kaeltenlol
04:07.16hyperChipmunkif you want to reverse the stereotype, just show 'em some hyperactiveChipmunk code
04:07.23TemAnyone got suggestions for the "low tolerance for wasteful code" bit?
04:07.24Tekkubhrm...
04:07.36Temthat's already an edit of mine and I'm having a real hard time thinking of something different
04:07.36Tekkub"You think we think we're better, look at chip"
04:07.41hyperChipmunkyes
04:08.00Cairennjust take it out
04:08.06TekkubWe KNOW we're better than him, but you can consider him "the norm" for an Ace coder!
04:08.13CairennI think (I'll need to see it) that it will read fine without that sentence
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04:08.31Tekkubmake up your mind bitch!
04:08.36Temtry now
04:08.59hyperChipmunkbut what drew me to you guys is the willingness to look at someone else's code and *writewritewrite* "okay, look at this.  here's a better way to do what you're doing"
04:09.02Cairennokay, I like the "Code Reuse is a Good Thing"!
04:09.19Tekkubthat's our real power chip, IMCO
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04:09.41Tekkubit's not that we have one good coder, it's that we keep each other in check
04:09.41hyperChipmunkand when someone's overly stupid, you send them to PIL for an indoctrination
04:09.49Temmmm
04:09.51TemPiL
04:09.57hyperChipmunkyea
04:10.15Tekkuband sometimes even encourge each other
04:10.22hyperChipmunkand a community that supports each other stays active
04:10.28CairennTem ... if you feel that other sentence still needs to be in there, change it to "We try to make sure that we don't write wasteful code and assist each other in ways to improve"
04:10.32Tekkubbut usually we just distract each other from actually getting shit accomplished
04:10.40Cairennor something like that
04:10.59Temah, good
04:10.59Tekkublike I said, just copy/paste my reply :)
04:11.09TemThat was too much of my own preference coming out before
04:11.17TemI have *very* low tolerance for bad code
04:11.29Tem(see Catalyst for what happens when I get annoyed enough)
04:11.33hyperChipmunkhey, whatever motivates you
04:11.34Tekkubheh
04:11.42Cairennyeah, but that sounds superior and condescending of other authors
04:11.50hyperChipmunkthe end-result is the same
04:11.57kergothi'd just say that we strive for simple, clean, efficient code.
04:12.00hyperChipmunkyou help people make their code better
04:12.06kergothmore focus on our goals, less on other people's code
04:12.11Tekkubsee the thing there is, when I see bad code I try to correct the author, help them out
04:12.12Cairennprecisely
04:12.26Cairennmy precisely was to kergoth
04:12.27Tekkubif they're totaly twats then I just rewrite their mods :)
04:12.31hyperChipmunk=(
04:12.38SilverShadowSO CLOSE!!!!
04:12.53Tekkubdamn CopperSilver get it done already
04:13.11Tekkubthis new "white theme" sucks even more than the grey one did!
04:13.13hyperChipmunkbtw, what are we discussing this for?  Are we writing a Mission Statement or something?
04:13.28Tekkubyou missed the WoWI thread didn't ya?
04:13.37hyperChipmunkI just woke up
04:13.40Tekkubsummary:
04:13.47CairennhyperChipmunk: this thread: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1336.0.html in reference to this thread: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4773
04:13.56Tekkub"Breaking the Ace stereotype"
04:14.09Temk, new edit
04:14.17CairennTem, it looks good, just refreshed
04:14.51Tekkubheh, read the wowace therad chip
04:14.55CairennhyperChipmunk: and yeah, Tekkubby's summary is succinct
04:15.07Tekkubthat's where I slipped up and mentioned that I wanted to write a mass mailer
04:15.22hyperChipmunkyea I did
04:15.24hyperChipmunkwtg
04:15.37hyperChipmunkthx for sorta promoting mine, btw
04:15.47hyperChipmunkI know that was an effort
04:15.50Tekkubyou realize with all this editing someone quoted the moonie somewhere down the page
04:16.42Cairennno one ever reads those though, not when it's long like that and the response is ... useless :p
04:17.06Tekkubyea yea
04:17.31Tekkubhehe, I like my last reply in the wowace thread...
04:17.38Tekkub"I tried to get him to name it BulkRate but he was a dick."
04:17.38TemTekkub: that's fine
04:17.45TemI can edit their post too *wink*
04:17.58Tekkubjust edit out the unneeded quote :)
04:18.05Cairennthat too
04:18.42Tekkub[QUOTE]5 paragraph original post on the same page[/quote] Yea what he said!
04:18.50Temactually, scratch that
04:18.56TemI'm just gonna poof the post
04:19.02Temit's irrelevant
04:19.04Tekkubheh
04:19.18hyperChipmunkwhy are we editing people's posts?
04:19.26Tekkubcause they're useless
04:19.38Tekkubuseless people are lesser than us!
04:19.43Tekkubmuahahahaha!
04:19.53Cairenn~whaleslap Tekkub
04:19.55purlACTION beats Tekkub upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
04:20.22TemI was editting My edit of Moonwolf's post to make it more PR-friendly
04:20.30hyperChipmunk~whaleparry Cairenn
04:20.31purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Cairenn's attacks.
04:20.44Cairenn~whaleblock Cairenn
04:20.45purlACTION shields Cairenn with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag
04:21.05hyperChipmunkfudge
04:21.11hyperChipmunkI've been outwhaled
04:21.37TekkubI'm telling you all
04:21.44TekkubEdwardo isn't a fucking whale!
04:22.03Cairennand how would you know if Edwardo fucks or not
04:22.11Tekkubhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Foster's_Home_for_Imaginary_Friends_characters#Eduardo
04:22.13Cairennactually, given you ... nm, I don't want to know how you know
04:22.36TekkubEdward is fucking, uh, uhm... I'd fuck him
04:24.36TemTekkub: it's Eduardo according to the wiki
04:24.46Tekkubmeh, you know I can't spell
04:24.57Temme either
04:24.58Tembut still
04:25.06Tekkub"In the Latin American dub of the series, Eduardo speaks with an over-exaggerated American accent."
04:25.07Tekkubhehe
04:25.35TemAmerican?
04:25.41Temoh
04:25.42Temlol
04:26.29hyperChipmunklisten to the radio version of "So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish"
04:26.38Tekkubyea I know... I now live in AR and wonder if these people think I have an accent
04:26.41hyperChipmunkand "Mostly Harmless"
04:26.44Cairennwow, take your pick Tem ... Boston, New England, New Yorker, Deep South ...
04:26.45Tekkuband what that accent is...
04:26.49hyperChipmunkactually, I think just "Mostly Harmless"
04:26.56hyperChipmunkwith the american trillian
04:27.02TekkubSouthpark did it best in Dodgeball
04:27.05TemCairenn: that's not what I meant
04:27.10Tekkub"I'll put it on my credit card!"
04:27.21Tekkub"You all come back now, you hear?"
04:27.22TemCairenn: I do the *english* accents very well
04:27.53TemTekkub: that would be "*Yall* come back now, ya hear?"
04:28.04Cairenntrust me, Americans have accents
04:28.13Tekkubyea but... ugh nevermind
04:28.16TemThat's not what I'm saying!
04:28.18Temgod
04:28.18hyperChipmunkjust ask a brit
04:28.24Tekkubit's chineese guys saying it it was funny
04:28.46Tekkubcair, take your boot and shut up :P
04:28.47TemI was wondering what an "American Accent" would be IN ANOTHER LANGUANGE
04:28.57Temie NOT ENGLISH
04:29.01CairennTem: thank you, now it makes sense
04:29.10hyperChipmunkahh...there are other languages?
04:29.11Temsorry, I was unclear before
04:29.11Tekkub[american] Si [/american]
04:30.35hyperChipmunkeveryone has an accent
04:30.46Cairennthe reason I know I don't ... put me around [whoever] and within a few hours, I start to sound like them
04:30.46Tekkubsee cair that's what I'm talking about!
04:30.47hyperChipmunkjust depends who you ask
04:30.57TekkubI'm down here in all this southern drawl...
04:31.02Tekkuband I don't have an accent
04:31.03Tekkubthey do!
04:31.05SilverShadowWE LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04:31.14hyperChipmunkit's...alive?
04:31.17Tekkubwhich makes me wonder what they think of how I talk
04:31.21Temumm.
04:31.22SilverShadowWelcome to Curse V2 ^_^
04:31.28TemIt wants a password from me
04:31.33Tekkubhehe
04:31.38Cairennspend a few hours with an Aussie and I sound like an Aussie, spend a few hours with a Brit, and I sound like a Brit
04:31.40SilverShadowis it still doing that?
04:31.41Cairennetc
04:31.43TemName and pass word for "Huhu"
04:31.46Tekkubsomeone forgot to take out the password!
04:31.53hyperChipmunkEnter username and password for HuHu at http://forums-v2.curse-gaming.com
04:32.00Temoh, shiny
04:32.17Tekkubit's not loading.... same old slow curse!
04:32.19Tekkub*hides*
04:32.20Temfancy artwork and all that jazz
04:32.38Temcan't seem to get the Addon section to load
04:32.49hyperChipmunkchug....
04:32.54hyperChipmunk...chug...
04:32.57Cairennumm, hate to say this, but it actually *isn't* loading for me ...
04:33.05hyperChipmunk...cough...sputter...
04:33.28Tekkub*giggle*
04:33.29Cairennstill waitiing ...
04:33.34hyperChipmunkooh ooh
04:33.35SilverShadowHrm..
04:33.36netcursethe addon section time out
04:33.38hyperChipmunkmy screen turned white
04:33.43hyperChipmunkdoh
04:33.44Cairennsame
04:33.45netcursewe looking at it
04:33.47Cairennas hyperChipmunk
04:33.49SilverShadow>.>
04:33.49Tekkubwhitie here too
04:33.50hyperChipmunkkersplat
04:33.53SilverShadowhahahaha
04:33.57CairennI've got nadda
04:33.58TekkubI don't like the white theme
04:34.00Tekkubit's boring
04:34.01hyperChipmunkrofl
04:34.11CairennI dunno, it's kinda restful
04:34.14Cairenneasy on the eyes
04:34.25Cairenndoesn't have all that nasty info and stuff all over it
04:34.27Tekkubit makes my eyes hurt
04:34.36Temlol back to the upgrade screen
04:34.37Tekkubblack or a deep blue would be restful
04:34.46TemFinal Tuning - 70%
04:34.49Cairennmmm, yah, a nice deep blue would be good
04:34.51SilverShadowlucky. i just got a 404
04:34.56hyperChipmunkhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons.html
04:35.05hyperChipmunker
04:35.10hyperChipmunkThe requested URL /en/wow/addons.html was not found on this server.
04:35.12SilverShadowi just want to go to bed..
04:35.15Kaeltenwell guys I got to run
04:35.16Kaeltengnight
04:35.20Cairennnight Kaelten
04:35.23hyperChipmunksweet dreams
04:36.07SilverShadowat least the rest of the guys are working... i'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs cause i can't get to work till the site is up..
04:36.34Cairenntrust me guys, I know how frustrating it is ... hang in there
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04:44.55hyperChipmunkTekkub: you have any references for other addons that use the drag-drop list feature you wanted? I can't seem to find a good way to tell what's on the cursor
04:45.10Tekkubuh...
04:45.14TekkubCTMM uses it :)
04:45.35hyperChipmunkhmm
04:45.54TekkubOnReceiveDrag ??
04:45.55hyperChipmunkoh, ok.  not a list, but...sec
04:46.18hyperChipmunkdon't insult me yet; I'm trying real hard
04:46.21Tekkubif ( CursorHasItem() ) then ...
04:47.22hyperChipmunkyea, I didn't think to look there because when dragging to the mail frame, I could just order the client to drop it there and it gets taken care of
04:47.22Tekkublooks like they're hooking PickupContainerItem
04:47.27Tekkubto get the bag/slot
04:47.43hyperChipmunkhm
04:47.49hyperChipmunkI was going to do that, but discarded the idea
04:48.03Tekkub*shrug*
04:48.05hyperChipmunkit seemed too prone to getting confused
04:48.10Tekkubheh
04:48.29hyperChipmunkbut what do i know; thanks =)
04:50.42hyperChipmunkbe nice if ClickSendMailItemButton was somewhere in the FrameXML; that'd be perfect
04:53.00netcurseok guys this launch isn t going as we expected hehe
04:53.08hyperChipmunk>8\
04:53.12netcursewe are not going to sleep it seems.>
04:53.21hyperChipmunk~sleep
04:53.22purlsleep is probably overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine.
04:54.23Cairenn|sleepnight guys ... good luck SilverShadowAFK and netcurse
04:56.00hyperChipmunksweet dreams
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05:05.10SilverShadowit seems to be working now...
05:06.04hyperChipmunkargh; I'm in over my head now =\
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05:07.16Cairenn|sleepI still can't log in ... "Firefox can't find the server at forums-v2.curse-gaming.com."
05:07.24SilverShadowyea. you're not the only one..
05:11.56hasteOo, shaman notes out
05:12.10Wobin_oh man
05:12.19Wobin_seen the
05:12.24Wobin_'new alliance race'?
05:13.47hasteuhm, no :p
05:13.54Cairenn|sleepdraenai
05:14.10hasteerr?
05:14.51Wobin_http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/world-of-warcraft-expansion/705785p1.html
05:15.48Wobin_maybe the Broken... http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/b37ff7eb7e.jpg
05:18.10hasteI'll wait untill something more official comes :p
05:20.23Wobin_Toping off this tree, the
05:20.23Wobin_31-point talent, Elemental Mastery will now reduce the mana cost of the next
05:20.23Wobin_spell by 100%, in addition to giving your next Fire, Frost or Nature spell a
05:20.23Wobin_100% critical strike chance.
05:20.24Wobin_wow
05:20.29Wobin_instant crit shock
05:20.36Wobin_or chain lightning
05:20.41Wobin_er not instant
05:20.44Wobin_free, sorry =P
05:20.55Wobin_but that'd be true with the shock
05:21.02hyperChipmunksure why not
05:21.30hyperChipmunklink?
05:22.11Wobin_http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-shaman&T=532462&P=1
05:22.21Wobin_Healing Way (3 point):
05:22.21Wobin_Healing Wave spells cast on the target cause an effect that increases the
05:22.21Wobin_effectiveness of any Healing Wave spell cast on that target by 6% for 15
05:22.21Wobin_seconds. This effect will stack of to three times.
05:22.24Wobin_Interestin
05:22.34Wobin_like Shadow weaving but for healing
05:22.48CIA-1303otravi * r1635 10otravi_CastingBar/otravi_CastingBar.lua: otravi_CastingBar - Removed a little ace:print().
05:23.03hasteWobin_: It's always been like that
05:23.07haste31-point that is
05:23.15hasteonly that you didn't have mana cost reduced before
05:23.19Gngskhey, ocb pukes when you channel ritual of summoning
05:23.29hasteGngsk: download that version
05:23.30Wobin_yeah, the free is nice
05:23.36Gngskk, one sec
05:23.38Wobin_No major nerfs
05:23.49Wobin_You can see Blizzard likes shammies =)
05:23.53hyperChipmunkwtf
05:23.55hastethey din't do much to the resto tree :(
05:23.58hastethat makes kow sad
05:24.00Wobin_(alright no obvious nerfs)
05:24.02hyperChipmunkChain Lightning +5%
05:24.18hyperChipmunkcuz 3500-2500-1500 chain lightnings aren't enough
05:24.26hastethey "nerfed" wf for all speccs except for enchancement also
05:24.33hastewhich means that my shaman has 80 dps flat now :D
05:24.50haste+ my insane 500 shocks
05:25.16hyperChipmunkooh ooh +20% earthbind range
05:25.44ckknightwell, the minimap buttons are pretty cool
05:26.06Wobin_hehe can you imagine what the noise would be if they had made manatide into a core trainable? =)
05:26.58hastewonder how much they have boosted it
05:27.03hasteit was 1500~ mana before
05:28.26Wobin_which is pretty tasty overall
05:30.50hastenot worth a 31-point talent tho'
05:31.01hastecompared to what other classes have :)
05:31.02Wobin_not for pvp no
05:31.15hastenot for PvE either
05:31.29hastebut then again, I'm usually pretty high on mana on PvE
05:31.38hasteI
05:31.46hasteI've gimped my shaman like there is no tomorrow
05:38.42netcursemost of the issues fixed , enjoy http://www.curse-gaming.com/ again :p
05:38.50Tekkubhuzzah!
05:38.56Tekkubpastes paypal links
05:39.10netcurseit s up to authors
05:39.12netcurse:p
05:39.21Tekkubyea that was a /em :P
05:46.38hasteTitanZoneSpeed - Increases Zone Time
05:47.39Wobin_woah, all of my 'last updated' for my favourites are '01/01/1970', netcurse =)
05:47.58netcurselol
05:48.10Wobin_and someone wrote a sudoku addon =P
05:48.21netcursecheck the new seach system
05:48.23netcurseit owns google
05:48.24netcurse:>
05:48.58TekkubWarning: Unexpected character in input: ' in /usr/home/www/curse-gaming.com/www/content/content.wow.php on line 2690
05:49.01Tekkub><
05:49.03Wobin_netcurse: Can we have the search split the results to addons. and uipackages?
05:49.07netcurseya sec
05:49.08netcurse:D
05:49.18netcursewobin i m taking it in note
05:49.27netcursewe got to work on the live server atm sorry about that tekkub
05:53.31Wobin_Also: the 'New Curse2' news item isn't showing up on the news page
05:55.56Tekkubugh
05:56.11Tekkubit's a bitch to find "From both of us to both of you" Mother's Day cards
05:56.24hyperChipmunk...
05:56.25Wobin_hehe, all the images for the talent trees are horde (barring pala natch)
05:56.36GngskTekkub, make one
05:56.44Wobin_Sell the concept to Hallmark
05:56.57Tekkubnah, I grew out of the make your own cards phase long ago
05:57.05Gngskheh
05:57.11Gngskmy mom has two rooms dedicated to making cards
05:57.16Tekkubtho my mother and sister grew back into it with this scrapbooking/stamping shit
05:57.21Gngskyep
05:57.30Tekkubit's corny :P
05:57.35Gngskit's kinda cool seeing cards you make in magazines though
05:58.00Gngskbut yea, other than that it's pretty corny
05:58.02Wobin_My sister does that for a living
05:58.09Gngskit's like every other month I get a card for no reason
05:58.16Wobin_She designs and custommakes wedding stationery
05:59.51TekkubWob: make her fix the homo-hating bishies at halmark
06:00.13Wobin_When samesex marriages become legal in Australia I guess =P
06:00.21TekkubI want "happy pride day" cards made with the stuff that pops up when you open it
06:00.31Tekkuband leather-bound cards
06:00.36Wobin_There's a annual pride day?
06:00.41Tekkuboh oh oh and dykes on bikes cards
06:00.43Wobin_The Gay Agenda
06:00.52Tekkubyea it's like the last sunday of june
06:00.56Wobin_It's a nice looking journal bound in leather =P
06:01.19Tekkubaparently, at least according to Colbert, there's a bear agenda too
06:02.15TekkubBTW...
06:02.22TekkubThe Gay Agenda: http://www.bettybowers.com/homoagenda.html
06:03.00Wobin_Oh netcurse: just a suggestion for the talent trees. Can we also have the "requires X points in Y" added to the tooltip?
06:04.18Wobin_I don't really like any of the 31 point rogue talents =(
06:04.29netcursecan you please log on curse-wow channel and talk to osso directly
06:04.32netcursehe is the developers
06:04.35Wobin_Sure
06:04.36netcurseof all these sections
06:04.37netcursethanks
06:04.40netcursequakenet
06:05.54Tekkub"he is the developers" ?
06:05.57Gngskhow could you not like adrenaline rush?
06:06.02Tekkubhehe
06:06.08Tekkubskitzo!
06:06.13netcursesorry
06:06.24netcursei m geting spamed everywhere and i havn t sleep for n earl 30 hours now
06:06.27Tekkubfuck it's 1AM... must make sleep... hate 6hr of sleep nights
06:06.45Tekkubso go to bed netty :)
06:06.57hastesuch a whiner Tekkub
06:07.01Wobin_Gngsk: I guess =)
06:07.11netcursei can t go to bed i got to cover e3 launch
06:07.16Tekkubhey, I need AT LEAST 10 hours of sleep a night to function properly
06:07.51hasteyou're broken most of the time in other words?
06:08.22Tekkubno, just mentally asleep
06:08.37Tekkubgranted, I don't need to think at works
06:08.38haste"broken"
06:08.42Tekkubmindless jobs FTW!
06:09.01Tekkubokey, me go now buhbye!
06:09.32hastebye!
06:09.35hyperChipmunklater
06:09.39Wobin_night
06:11.05CIA-1303hyperactiveChipmunk * r1636 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua CHANGELOG gui.lua gui.xml):
06:11.06CIA-13BulkMail:
06:11.06CIA-13- Code cleaned up, better logic
06:11.06CIA-13- First BulkMail-selected item now attached to the message if no item already attached
06:11.06CIA-13- Some GUI code added to repo; not actually in the mod at this point
06:13.30kergothooh, bliz finally fixed the respec bug with shamans eh.  thank god.  i had to get that 2h weapon skill level back up from ground zero 2 or 3 times
06:13.41hyperChipmunkha ha
06:14.03ckknight?
06:14.06netcurseit s up:D
06:14.07hyperChipmunklol
06:14.15ckknightbut I'm almost done what I'm doing
06:14.20netcurse:P
06:15.27hastekergoth: know how that is, spent unusual amounts of gold on my shamans respec
06:15.34hasteand time on leveling 2h axe/mace
06:16.41kergothlooks like some good changes.  better balance for the class
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06:17.17Wobin_IV|HoLCu is now known as zRoMqNo`dMal
06:17.20Wobin_...
06:17.28Wobin_Whatever happened to easy to remember nicks? =)
06:17.57hyperChipmunkwtf
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06:18.28[MoonWolf]Wtsnacks is like ignorance refined, purified and packaged ready to cook in 3 external 5.25 bays. <- yay for megahal bots
06:18.47kergothhehe
06:18.52CIA-1303ckknight * r1637 10FuBar/ (9 files): FuBar - added minimap buttons.
06:19.00ckknightwho wants to test?
06:19.34kergothman, hadnt done jack in python in the past, oh, 1.5 years or so
06:19.38kergothcoming back fast though :)
06:19.40[MoonWolf]hehe
06:19.54[MoonWolf]programming is almost like riding a bycacle.
06:19.57kergothhehe
06:20.04hyperChipmunktoo bad spelling isn't
06:20.08[MoonWolf]If you do forget its damn easy to pick up again.
06:20.09kergothit helps if you have old code snippets around.. which i didnt
06:20.20ckknighthyperChipmunk, test the SVN FuBar, would you?
06:20.30ckknightI don't think there are any glaring bugs
06:20.31kergothi need to get a good repository of snippets of my code in various languages, but i can never get it layed out the way i like
06:21.13[MoonWolf]yeah
06:21.27[MoonWolf]if you subcategory it you end up with way to many categories
06:21.36[MoonWolf]if you keep it in one category its way to big
06:21.42kergothso i'm doing a fuse filesystem for leaftag, so i'll have a filesystem based interface into tagged code.  i.e. c, development, ncurses, snippet
06:22.06kergothcd /media/tagfs/content/c/foo or cd /media/tagfs/content/ncurses/foo, or whatever
06:22.32kergothhttp://www.chipx86.com/wiki/Leaftag
06:22.33netcurse[MoonWolf] we are up :D
06:22.38[MoonWolf]wohoo
06:23.33[MoonWolf]hhmmm
06:23.37[MoonWolf]the mod database is there
06:23.47[MoonWolf]but the front page is giving me this '; ?>
06:24.01netcursehttp://www.curse-gaming.com
06:24.04netcurseuse www
06:24.13[MoonWolf]lol
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06:25.56ckknightnetcurse, cool stuff
06:25.58[MoonWolf]hmmm, there is a problem with long unspaced lines.
06:26.05ElkanoWTF? yesterday I made the "curse'2" typo and today curse v2 is launched Oo
06:26.19[MoonWolf]http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-2999-1-mendeleev.html#comments <- look at the submissions of translations.
06:26.59[MoonWolf]otherwise, sleek
06:28.44hyperChipmunkckknight: what am I looking for, here?
06:28.54ckknighthyperChipmunk, right-click, attach to minimap
06:28.59ckknighton a 1.2 plugin
06:30.31hyperChipmunkso that gives a button for the on-click?
06:31.31hyperChipmunkwhy not give the tooltip, too?
06:33.19hyperChipmunkI just love how nobody can resist attacking me while i stand pvp-flagged in everlook working on BulkMail
06:33.46hyperChipmunkand then the bruisers totally ream them
06:34.03ckknightiit should give the tooltip
06:34.05ckknightit*
06:34.19hyperChipmunkno tooltip
06:34.23ckknightwhat plugin?
06:34.33hyperChipmunkI did it with performance and ammo
06:34.36hyperChipmunkI can try more
06:34.59ckknightweird
06:35.01ckknightdoing it for me
06:35.07ckknightgiving the tooltip, that is
06:36.18hyperChipmunkno bugs or anything, so I really can't give you feedback
06:36.25hyperChipmunks/bugs/errors/
06:37.15ckknighthrm
06:37.54hyperChipmunkplus I'm tired and I can't think straight enough to dig for it =P
06:39.06netcursehello felloy americans can you please test http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/guildwars/build.html
06:39.10netcursethe loading time
06:39.59hyperChipmunkdone
06:40.10hyperChipmunkI started about 5s after you said 'the loading time'
06:41.10haste7s in EU :)
06:41.22netcurseok thanks
06:41.56hyperChipmunkabout 1m5s for a fresh cache-reload
06:42.42hyperChipmunkoh wait =)
06:42.46Wobin_..
06:42.49Wobin_still loading
06:42.49hyperChipmunknah, about 15s
06:43.21Wobin_huh
06:43.25Wobin_didn't load properly
06:43.31netcursei see
06:43.34hyperChipmunkhad to turn off the bittorrent =x
06:44.37netcursethank you
06:44.41netcurseappreciate your help
06:45.04Wobin_Aye about 1min 15
06:45.09Wobin_(From China =P)
06:46.20netcurseDo you speak chinese wobin ?
06:48.23Wobin_I'm learning =)
06:49.05Wobin_although netspeak mandarin is painful to figure out =P
06:50.11[MoonWolf]could be faster.
06:50.23netcursewell
06:50.31netcursethe image are from a static httpd server
06:50.31[MoonWolf]ooh
06:50.39netcurseeverything cached
06:50.41[MoonWolf]this has ritualist and asssin too
06:50.50netcurse:p
06:50.57Wobin_hm, the Vanguard news page has the WoW addon/tabard/etc buttonimages on the side
06:51.33Wobin_Anyway, off for some food
06:55.03[MoonWolf]wow, assisin warrior has some pretty nice melee potential
06:57.00CIA-1303ckknight * r1638 10FuBar/ (API.1.2.html FuBar.lua FuBarPlugin.lua MinimapContainer.lua):
06:57.00CIA-13FuBar -
06:57.00CIA-13API Change:
06:57.00CIA-13added "MINIMAP" to defaultPosition.
06:57.00CIA-13added defaultMinimapPosition.
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07:21.12CIA-1303ckknight * r1639 10FuBar/PanelClass.lua: FuBar - PanelClass.lua:731 - Attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value
07:26.15ckknight[Cu]NeT, how do I submit an addon?
07:26.21ckknightI cannot for the life of me find the link
07:33.05Wobin_muh. I'm missing a whole lot of text on the page atm
07:33.50hasteemerge -C opera, back to firefox
07:34.37[Cu]NeThttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/submit.html
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07:34.40[Cu]NeTckknight
07:34.58LaerbeeJoOh man...I'm so lost. :\
07:35.06Wobin_netcurse: There's a whole lot of text missing on what I can see
07:35.07LaerbeeJoVisor kicks my booty.
07:35.15LaerbeeJo*cry*
07:35.17Wobin_LaerbeeJo: Have you seen the wiki?
07:35.31LaerbeeJoOh yes.  I spent about six hours reading stuff today.
07:35.37[Cu]NeTnothing is missing at my yes
07:35.39[Cu]NeTeyes
07:35.43Wobin_I'll SS it
07:35.45ckknightthen where is it?
07:35.50ckknighthey LaerbeeJo
07:35.56LaerbeeJoHey, CK. :)
07:35.57[Cu]NeThttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/submit.html ?
07:36.12ckknighthow would one get there?
07:36.23ckknightas I said, I could not find the link
07:36.24[Cu]NeThttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons.html
07:36.25ckknightit wasn't obvious
07:36.31[Cu]NeTsearch on the page
07:36.33[Cu]NeTsubmit
07:36.38[Cu]NeThow you can miss it ? .x
07:36.55ckknightwhere on the page?
07:37.02ckknightI searched for submit
07:37.04ckknightno matches
07:37.10hastethe yellow frame ckknight :p
07:37.13netcurseon this page http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons.html
07:37.24netcurseyellow page
07:37.26ckknightyellow frame looks blank to me
07:38.38LaerbeeJoSo, um...could I prevail on someone to look at http://ace.pastebin.com/706939 and see what I screwed up?
07:38.59LaerbeeJoI keep getting an error.
07:39.27LaerbeeJoI feel like I'm interrupting.  I am not sure how to ask this politely or quietly or something. :\
07:41.36ckknightnetcurse, do you need a screenshot or something to believe me?
07:42.15ckknightunless I have some creepy proxy on me or something...
07:42.39Wobin_netcurse: http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cursemissing4aq.png
07:42.46netcurseckknight i beleive you
07:42.50netcursebut how can i fix ?
07:42.58Wobin_I don't see it either =(
07:43.04ckknightsame here, Wobin_
07:43.13ckknightnetcurse, something is wrong with the code
07:43.16netcurseok
07:43.25netcursethe coder is sleeping he made 9 hours of migration
07:43.26netcursei ll not ite
07:43.28netcursenite
07:43.30netcurseer
07:43.30netcursenote
07:43.31ckknightthe submit page is also fucked
07:43.40netcursewhat is fucked in it ?
07:43.46ckknightgonna screenie
07:44.03Wobin_LaerbeeJo: What's the problem you're having?
07:44.58ckknightnetcurse, http://ckknight.hopto.org:8080/screen.jpg
07:44.59LaerbeeJoIt turned out to be something with the scale I put in.
07:45.45LaerbeeJoIt caused a VisorBasics.lua:193: attempt to perform arithmatic on local ` ox' (a nil value) errir.
07:45.49LaerbeeJoBut I'm not sure why.
07:45.55ckknightnetcurse, happens in both Opera and Firefox
07:46.05ckknightso it's probably the underlying code
07:46.12Wobin_LaerbeeJo: One thing I found to make Visor easier is to keybind the 'focus on cursor' and 'nudge' functions
07:46.25LaerbeeJoI thought if I did "Visor:Do("blah blah") I wouldn't need set in there.
07:46.26LaerbeeJoI did. ;)
07:46.28netcursewhat version of firefox ?
07:46.28LaerbeeJoErr :)
07:46.40Wobin_I have ctrl-/ as focus and ctrl-arrowkeys for the nudges
07:46.50netcursewith latest ff version no bug at all :o
07:46.54ckknightnetcurse, latest
07:46.55hastenetcurse: that's Opera
07:46.56ckknightand latest Opera
07:47.03ckknighthaste, I checked in both
07:47.09netcursegah then i don t understand
07:47.09hasteI'll check here :D
07:47.11netcurseand on ie ?
07:47.16ckknightnetcurse, I just checked the source
07:47.19ckknightthe source is the problem
07:47.21ckknightnot the browser
07:47.47netcursei beleive you but i have latest firefox
07:47.48netcurseand no probleö
07:47.50netcurseproblem
07:48.00ckknightsame thing on IE, netcurse
07:48.19netcursett
07:48.23ckknightin fact, IE looks even more fucked up
07:48.26Wobin_Same on latest FF
07:48.27ckknightwith textures and such
07:48.28netcurseyou had this on v2 beta ?
07:48.36ckknightno
07:48.37netcurseok
07:48.46netcursei ll get coder to work on it asap thn he wake up then
07:49.19hasteworks fine in Firefox 1.0.7 here
07:49.19ckknightthe graphics in IE are totally screwy
07:49.22ckknightwant a screenshot?
07:49.29haste1.0.8 actually
07:49.40netcursei beleive you
07:49.44netcursei ll forward
07:49.45ckknightalright
07:49.58netcursei just don t understand how it can be fucked for some ppl with same broswer version
07:50.25netcurseanyway i m the only one left not sleeping
07:50.33netcurseit will be fixed when they wake up :p
07:51.37ckknightnetcurse, it doesn't work for me, no matter the browser
07:51.45ckknightand whether I'm logged in or not
07:52.08netcurseallright we ll fix
07:52.55[MoonWolf]weird system problem ?
07:53.23netcursemy eyes hurt to much i can t watch the screen anymore i been up to long now :p
07:53.32netcurseo
07:53.33netcurseckknight
07:53.34[MoonWolf]go sleep
07:53.36netcursei found
07:53.38[MoonWolf]its a bit late for sleep
07:53.39netcursethe problem
07:53.42ckknighthooray?
07:53.54netcurseour cms is going crazy
07:54.04netcursewith the multi langague
07:54.14ckknightfigured something to do with i18n
07:54.26[MoonWolf]hah, I have the same problems now.
07:54.29netcurseya
07:54.32[MoonWolf]even though it worked fine before.
07:54.34netcursehmm
07:54.39[MoonWolf]looks like a problem on your side indeed
07:55.25netcurseretry now ?
07:55.43Industrialhm what a webpage? can i help?
07:55.48ckknightsame
07:55.52[MoonWolf]nothing changed.
07:55.56ckknightcurse v2, indie
07:56.01[MoonWolf]morning id'
07:56.01hasteIndustrial: no, you suck!
07:56.02haste:---D
07:56.04netcurseallright then i can t do anything till the coder is awake
07:56.08Industrialhaste: <3
07:56.20hastebtw I have a question!
07:56.21[MoonWolf]well blame the huge amount of users
07:56.23Industrialnetcurse: nice :o
07:56.25Industrialhaste: shoot
07:56.28hasteWhat do you do when the microwave blows up?
07:56.42Industrialstop putting forks in it
07:56.43[MoonWolf]buy a new one.
07:57.01Industrialer no by that time you should already have stopped doing that
07:57.02hasteI pulled the plug and let it be :p
07:57.18Industrialcheck all other stuff in the house for damage?
07:57.33LaerbeeJoSo, hey...Industrial...could I ask you a Visor question, when you're done giving microwave advice? :D
07:57.34hastefuse is fine
07:57.35[MoonWolf]throw it away and buy a new one, and dont put forks in it.
07:57.42Industrialsue
07:57.43hasteit has it's own little wire something
07:57.44netcurseheheeh
07:57.44Industrialsure*
07:57.48netcursecan you guys try again ?
07:58.12LaerbeeJoCan you look at http://ace.pastebin.com/706939 and tell me why the scale part is throwing an error?
07:58.13[MoonWolf]:( nothing
07:58.13netcurseit s the cache that is going a bit crazy
07:58.15netcurseok
07:58.19netcursecontrol+r give nothing ?
07:58.54netcurseallright me sleep at least 2 3 hours
07:59.25LaerbeeJoIf I don't add the s=.85 in the code, it's fine.
07:59.32[MoonWolf]nope,i  keep browsing to different addons
07:59.32LaerbeeJoDo I have to set the scale separately?
07:59.36[MoonWolf]same problems.
07:59.49hasteoO
07:59.56hastethe key thing in 1.11 looks nice
08:05.12LaerbeeJoWell, I figured out a way around that one.
08:05.28IndustrialLaerbeeJo: sorry i was rebooting
08:05.47LaerbeeJoDo you know if there is a way to stretch a VisorActionButton vertically or horizontally, but not both?
08:05.50LaerbeeJo*giggle*
08:05.52LaerbeeJoNo worries. :)
08:05.59LaerbeeJoI feel smarter for figuring something out.
08:06.07Industrialyeah, use button:SetPoint()
08:06.29LaerbeeJoAnd one last question...
08:06.40LaerbeeJoI'm not able to change the text colours...
08:06.50LaerbeeJoAt least not using the KeyBindings script someone wrote.
08:06.55Industrialoo text i never did anything with that >_o
08:07.00LaerbeeJoWhen I plug in other numbers, the colour stays the same.
08:07.01LaerbeeJoAh.
08:07.13LaerbeeJoIt's hard to read in that off-gray-white. :\
08:07.36LaerbeeJoBut if buttons have a pr, they will inherit text colour from it?
08:07.38LaerbeeJoOr no...
08:07.40LaerbeeJo?
08:08.09IndustrialI just have 30 buttonns in rows of 10 so tis easy :P 1/10 shoft-1/10 and caps-1/10 (caps is my ctrl key)
08:08.28IndustrialLaerbeeJo: no, dont think so
08:08.40LaerbeeJoAh.
08:08.56LaerbeeJoI use my numpad, so I wanted to make a little keypad lookin' set up.
08:09.03LaerbeeJoI'll post screenies if I ever get it going.
08:09.08LaerbeeJoRight now it's makin' me cry. ;)
08:09.33LaerbeeJoI'm not sure how to use button:SetPoin()
08:09.38LaerbeeJoErr, Point
08:09.53netcursewell i can t sleep now with all these problems .>
08:09.58netcursei ll wait for coder to be awake
08:10.15hastelazy coders, sleeping and such
08:10.18LaerbeeJoSo, /vz set wh=350 won't work?
08:10.23LaerbeeJoOr something similar?
08:10.44Gngskvisor seems like too much work for buttons
08:11.00Gngsksomeone should write a front end for it to provide all the flexbar stuff
08:11.30LaerbeeJoBut it does frame stuff too.
08:11.35Gngskyah
08:11.36[Ammo]morning
08:11.55LaerbeeJoI really think it's neato, except I know nothing about LUA, etc. so this is pretty dang new. ;)
08:12.04LaerbeeJoGood morning!
08:12.06LaerbeeJoIt's 2 am here.
08:12.07LaerbeeJo:D
08:12.23Gngskyah, I know how you feel
08:12.36GngskI really wanna try visor for action buttons, but I'm too used to the flexbar setup I have
08:12.44IndustrialLaerbeeJo: numpad: http://pastebin.com/706963
08:12.58IndustrialGngsk: see paste
08:13.01Industrial:P
08:13.42IndustrialI dont know how to do things when it gets to swapping bars etc, because i havent looked into it yet
08:14.01Gngskyah, I got a bunch of events setup with flexbar
08:14.06Gngskdunno if I could live without those
08:14.24Industriali just have 30 buttons in rows of 10
08:14.40hastewhy rows of 10? :D
08:14.49Industrialno idea, i only use 5
08:14.52Gngsk1-5
08:14.58Industrial:)
08:15.02Gngskthen ctrl/alt 1-5
08:15.11Industriali swapped ctrl with caps
08:15.17hasteI shouldn't say much, but I setup my actionbars so they function with no addons at all also
08:15.22Industrialand use 1/5 shift-1/5 and ctrl(caps)-1/5
08:15.28hasteI'm a hotkey addict so it becomes a little easier
08:15.37LaerbeeJoYes, that's very similar to what I have.  I just wanted to stretch the "zero" and "plus" keys to look more like the ones on the keyboard.
08:16.00IndustrialLaerbeeJo: but the actions you drag on them will look like shite :P
08:16.15[MoonWolf]indeed
08:16.15Industrialthey'll also stretch
08:16.15Gngskwoot, chester is alive!
08:16.22[MoonWolf]truely ugly
08:16.29[MoonWolf]I have tried, I did NOT like it.
08:16.38Industrial;)
08:17.20LaerbeeJoHmm...
08:17.25LaerbeeJoNo way to get it to tile?
08:17.45LaerbeeJoIt doesn't much matter, as zero is always attack for me.
08:18.04LaerbeeJoOr, I have macro icons that are just blank colour.
08:18.08Industrialhttp://pastebin.com/706964
08:18.20Industrialmy basic setup
08:19.04LaerbeeJoWow...that looks so complicated. :\
08:19.34Industrialit isnt
08:19.35Industrial:p
08:19.44Industrialright Tem|AFK
08:19.50IndustrialxD
08:20.55[MoonWolf]for some reason tem afk is ... AFK
08:21.27Industriali Tem|AFK know Tem|AFK but Tem|AFK he's Tem|AFK highlighted Tem|AFK now
08:21.34Industrial:P
08:21.49ckknightpart of me thinks I should just circumvent AceDB and implement my own for FuBar
08:21.54ckknightthus alleviating profile issues
08:22.11Industrialor write whatever for the new ace
08:22.13Industrialand use that
08:22.17ckknightIndie, I can't
08:22.19ckknightI want to
08:22.20ckknightI really do
08:22.21Industrialwhy
08:22.37ckknightbut the beaurocracy is still deciding the core
08:22.38LaerbeeJoOk, can you look at http://ace.pastebin.com/706967 and see why the colour isn't changing?
08:22.48Industrialwhy ck WHY! why did you have to do this to me WHY!?! .. err .. wrong set
08:24.00ckknight?
08:24.01IndustrialLaerbeeJo: i dont know for sure but try tc='1 0 1'
08:24.02ckknightdo what?
08:24.07Industrialckknight: just kidding
08:24.16Industrialckknight: oki i understand
08:24.26Industrialckknight: well then jkust wait for a while? :P
08:24.38Industrialblame others and play the game instead :D
08:24.50[Ammo]has anyone else used perfectraid and perfectraidtargets on the Razorgore event yet? combined with oRA for MTs in PRT
08:24.57Industrial<-- work
08:25.02[Ammo]I think PRT went into an eternal loop last night
08:25.23LaerbeeJoIndustrial: That's what I have atm...still no go.
08:25.47ckknightno, Indie
08:25.52ckknightI can't stand waiting
08:25.59ckknightwaited too long already
08:27.37ckknightI'm gonna take a shower...
08:31.39LaerbeeJoHmm, so I got the texture to stretch, but not the actual button.
08:31.54LaerbeeJoThere's still a perfectly square "button" in the middle of my texture. :\
08:32.28LaerbeeJoUgh, I'll just make a second button for each.
08:32.30LaerbeeJo*sniffle*
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09:03.59Industrial'view all'
09:04.01Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial/hotornot.html
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09:50.36hasteoO, another person named Moon on zhe forums!
09:50.49hastenow we have: Moonsorrow, Moonwolf and Moon!
09:51.01hasteAceForums gains +5 confusion.
09:52.08CodayusThere's a Moonblossom in my guild.  I should try and convince her to post on the Ace forums.
09:52.23CodayusJust in the interests of maximising the fun.
09:58.46[Ammo]hehe
09:59.02[Ammo]hmm anyone know what function to call to check if a corpse is skinnable?
09:59.24[Ammo]I want to extend InformaTips to add the 'skinnable' or 'dead' thing
09:59.33Industrial< [Ammo]> hmm anyone know what function to call to check if a corpse is skinnable?
09:59.40Wobin_?
09:59.44[MoonWolf]what, why must there be so many moons
09:59.44Industrialthats pretty morbid if you dont know what is talked about
09:59.50Wobin_Industrial: Ammo's spokesperson
10:01.35[Ammo]hehe
10:01.56[Ammo]some people in our raid still don't know how to loot core hounds
10:01.59Elkanohmm, is there any besides checking the tooltip?
10:02.01[Ammo]and my current tooltip doesn't show skinnable
10:03.07[Ammo]AF_ToolTip used to do it
10:04.52Elkanowhat tooltip are you using? TipBuddy does, too
10:05.26[MoonWolf]what is hard about looting core hounds 0_o
10:09.11[Ammo]I don't want to use TipBuddy
10:09.20[Ammo]I'm using InformaTips, nice clean etc
10:11.48[MoonWolf]informatips ftw
10:12.12[MoonWolf]its the prime example of how clean written code can keep living forerver untill the api its based on changes anyway.
10:15.43[Ammo]now to only figure out how to add Skinnable to it :)
10:16.03Wobin_Oh man
10:16.14Wobin_No wonder trainerskills is so huge
10:16.22Wobin_it duplicates data -everywhere-
10:16.23Wobin_=(
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10:16.39hastekek?
10:17.03Wobin_trainerskills, it basically duplicates the trainer frame outside of the blizzard one
10:17.11Wobin_so you can see what skills you're going to learn
10:17.23Wobin_it also tells you what you can learn when you level
10:17.25Wobin_very nifty
10:17.50Wobin_(and the probable cost of learning all the skills for that level)
10:17.54Wobin_but it's huge
10:18.43haste:D
10:19.29Wobin_the SV file is 1.3M
10:20.11Wobin_of my overall sv's only auctioneer and lootlink are bigger
10:20.34[Ammo]lootlink? shiver
10:20.39Wobin_yeh =P
10:20.47[Ammo]evil wobin evil
10:20.52Wobin_don't know why I still have that activated on some characters
10:21.04Wobin_I'm tempted to rewrite TS
10:21.21Wobin_it loads up as 3M worth of data according to WU
10:22.40Elkanowho needs ll if one got ItemDB ;)
10:23.06Industrialyeah
10:23.08Industrialitemdb ftw
10:23.09Industrial;p
10:23.24Industrialafk
10:23.32Elkanohopefully I'll find some time to rewrite it oo
10:25.18Wobin_hm
10:25.26Shyvais it better then KCI? :-)
10:25.27Wobin_I'm thinking of a chatlog emblib
10:25.43Wobin_that you can register 'requests' with
10:26.19Wobin_so when it hits your string, it'll fire an event to you
10:26.42ElkanoShyva, depends... ItemDB has no saved variables (uses client's cache) and shares it's data between users
10:27.10Elkanoif you want to try: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4418
10:27.10ShyvaHmm, sounds cool too =)
10:27.40Wobin_well it shares it's data due to the client cache
10:28.08Shyvais searching faster then in kci?
10:28.39Wobin_s/the/the functional existance of the/
10:28.46Elkanothat's not what I meant. It shares data via DistChat so that if so using the addon on your server sees an item it will be added to your database to after some time
10:29.28Shyvaso it uses 1 extra channel? bah.. cann't have more channels
10:29.45Elkanowell, haven't used KCI myself, yet, but ItemDB has almost the same search/filter options as the auction house does
10:30.01Elkanoyou can disable DistChat in the lua by setting a variable
10:30.29Shyvahm hm
10:31.34Elkanomaybe I'm going to implement fulltext search on the tooltips but thats low priority atm
10:41.48ShyvaDreamwaver always flips out when you open a very large file :-
10:41.52Shyva* :-|
10:43.23hasteuse something else then :D
10:44.10Shyva:-( it's such a nice editor when you don't think of that part :P
10:57.58Wobin_gah
10:58.01Wobin_Ratbert
10:58.03Wobin_Damnit
10:58.19Wobin_Prefix your commit messages!
10:59.17Industrial< Shyva> is it better then KCI? :-)
10:59.21IndustrialKCI is for prices
10:59.30IndustrialItemDB is for the rest
10:59.44Wobin_vendor prices?
10:59.55Industrial'prices' in general
11:00.05Industrialyou dont know KCI Wobin_ ?
11:00.08Industrialits like auctioneer
11:00.12Wobin_Oh I do
11:00.17Wobin_I just don't use it widely
11:00.34Industriali use it for the auction :p
11:00.34Wobin_I've gotten out of the habit of the daily auction scanning
11:00.37Industrialwhy
11:00.47Industrialfirst thing i do is log in to my ah char
11:00.48Industrialscan
11:00.56Industrialgo get food
11:01.03Industrialcome back, and start making money
11:01.06Industrial:P
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11:09.43ShyvaID, I use linkview alot...
11:15.29Industrialhttp://www.worldofwar.net/comics/heroesofwow/chapter19/index.php
11:15.33Industrialthat strip is sooo cute
11:15.34Industrial:
11:15.34Industrial:D
11:16.59Shyvahaha xD
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11:29.35LaerbeeJoAre joo guys awake in here?
11:30.03Industrialyes
11:30.07LaerbeeJoWoo!
11:30.14Industrialjust idle
11:30.16Industrial:P
11:30.22Industrialim here 24/7
11:30.40Industrial(13:30) Irssi uptime: 28d 23h 53m 0s
11:31.05LaerbeeJoGood lord.
11:31.14LaerbeeJoWell, lemme ask you one last question before I go to bed.
11:31.47LaerbeeJohttp://ace.pastebin.com/707143
11:31.52Gngskhehe, my old linux box was on for 9 months, just irc!
11:31.55[Ammo]idle is best :)
11:32.08IndustrialGngsk: :-)
11:32.08[Ammo]<PROTECTED>
11:32.23LaerbeeJoThis throws errors when I put the functions in my lib and run the Visor:Do parts.
11:32.25Industrial\o/
11:32.53LaerbeeJoI can get it to work fine if I use /vz instead, but when I relog, it stops working.
11:33.35Industrialnot missing any '' ?
11:33.39LaerbeeJoThat wasn't very clear...
11:33.58Industrialnot missing any '' around flags?
11:33.58LaerbeeJoWhen I relog, after using the slash commands, the buttons are reset and do nothing on click.
11:34.16LaerbeeJoFlags?
11:34.16Industrialyeah because the lua isnt saved
11:34.22Industrialf= ss= ssh= etc
11:34.34LaerbeeJoIt's all in one " " set.
11:34.41Industrialasdf
11:34.42LaerbeeJoAnd the functions are saved...
11:34.57Industrialwhat im saying is maybe a flag needs '
11:35.02LaerbeeJoOh.
11:35.03Wobin_LaerbeeJo: Have you set up a visor profile for your charactre?
11:35.06LaerbeeJoYes.
11:35.13LaerbeeJoFor all ten. :D
11:35.20LaerbeeJoThey all currently use the default.
11:36.37CIA-1303handdol * r1640 10BigWigs/ (Bars.xml Core.lua):
11:36.37CIA-13BigWigs
11:36.37CIA-13<PROTECTED>
11:36.37CIA-13<PROTECTED>
11:39.00LaerbeeJoChanging to ' fixed the errors.
11:39.15LaerbeeJoHowever, it's still not saving the functions to the buttons.
11:39.30LaerbeeJoOr is it something I need to have run every time my char logs in?
11:39.47Industrialhttp://ace.pastebin.com/707153
11:39.56Industrialyes
11:39.59Industriallike i said
11:40.02Industrialthe lua doesnt save
11:40.12Industrialwhat is doen with visor:do is saved
11:40.17Industrialdone*
11:40.46Wobin_or vz
11:40.49Industrialwoops error in pastebin
11:40.55LaerbeeJoIt doesn't save for me.
11:41.00Industrialsec
11:41.01LaerbeeJoI can get the LUA to save with LUASlinger.
11:41.14IndustrialLaerbeeJo: you need to execute it every time wow starts
11:41.14LaerbeeJoBut not the Visor:Do or /vz commands.
11:41.17Industriallua isnt saved
11:41.24LaerbeeJoAh.
11:41.39LaerbeeJoWhat command is that?
11:41.44LaerbeeJoOnLoad?
11:41.55LaerbeeJo*makes a face* I have NO idea.
11:42.39LaerbeeJoHere's what's confusing me, also...I will need to do the Visor:Do stuff every time I log in?
11:42.52LaerbeeJoIs that the LUA that doesn't save you're referring to?
11:43.00IndustrialLaerbeeJo: visor is for saving setting about interface parts
11:43.02Industrialnot lua code
11:43.09LaerbeeJoRight.
11:43.16Industriali dont knwow hy rowne made script handler for visor
11:43.26Industrialhttp://ace.pastebin.com/707156
11:43.31Industrialbut thats probably whet you want
11:43.34LaerbeeJoHowever LUASlinger gives me a library I can save to.
11:43.40LaerbeeJoAnd then call functions from.
11:43.46IndustrialLaerbeeJo: or put it in an addon
11:44.15LaerbeeJoSo I put the functions for that in LUASlinger's library and assumed using Visor:Do would call that each time I pressed the button.
11:44.21IndustrialLaerbeeJo: theres still one problem. how are you going to show a button if its hidden? :P
11:44.46LaerbeeJo...show it?
11:44.53LaerbeeJoIf it's hidden, then show.
11:44.58LaerbeeJoIf it's showing, then hid.
11:45.01LaerbeeJoErr, hide.
11:45.07Industrialyou cant click it if its hidden
11:45.08LaerbeeJoThe buttons I press are separate.
11:45.15Industrialoh, nm
11:45.39netcurseKarl
11:45.55Industrialnetcurse: wrong channel ^^
11:46.06LaerbeeJoDo you see where I'm confused.
11:46.08LaerbeeJoErr, ?
11:46.18netcursesorry my brain is dead .>
11:46.34LaerbeeJoI have buttons 109, 110, 111 that I click on to show and hide buttons 41, 25, 53.
11:47.24LaerbeeJoHowever, although I use Visor:Do('f=VisorActionButton109 ssh=OnClick ss=ButtonToggle3()') to call the function I've stored, as soon as I log out, the button no longer has the OnClick.
11:48.11LaerbeeJoIf I execute the Visor:Do('f=VisorActionButton109 ssh=OnClick ss=ButtonToggle3()') again, it works fine again until another log out or /rl
11:48.36LaerbeeJoI guess it doesn't matter.  My server is going down in 13 min.
11:48.52Wobin_oh.
11:48.55Wobin_tuesday
11:48.59Wobin_I forgot
11:49.03Industrialwell i dont think those script things shoult be part of visor
11:49.07Industrialshould*
11:49.18Industrialits convenient for changing things
11:49.26Industrialbut keep logic and presentation separate
11:49.43LaerbeeJoWhat script things?  The ssh?
11:49.48Industrialyes
11:50.17Shyvae3 is tomorrow right?
11:50.52LaerbeeJoWell, I'll go to bed then.
11:50.55LaerbeeJoThanks anyway.
11:50.57Industrialnn
11:52.09Shyvahttp://www.whataboutpp.com/ ^^
12:00.19Industrialsmells like fake
12:00.27Industrialsee the warrior?
12:00.40Industrialisnt that just might pauldrons and some t2 armor?
12:01.09Industrialand in the druid picture
12:01.20haste~emulate gir
12:01.22purli need tacos! i need tacos or i'll explode.  that happens to me sometimes.
12:01.25Industriallook at the right (her left) foot
12:01.35Industrialit might just be dandy glow
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12:01.46Industrialbut i see the yellow parts overlapping her leg
12:01.48Industrialthe lines
12:02.11Industrialand the mage is very vague
12:02.19Gngskhttp://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/weapon.htm
12:03.44Industrialnothin happens i only see 1 button and some text under it
12:04.05Industrial(it links to the same page)
12:04.07Industrial()#
12:04.09Gngskyah
12:04.13Gngsksorry, it's messed
12:04.23Gngskfew hours ago it was basically all the info on the whataboutpp page
12:04.32Gngskbut with a slew of chinese characters involved
12:04.45hastethey removed it :)
12:04.51Industrialaww
12:07.03Shyvait's real I think..
12:07.20Shyvathose chinese had the 0.5 sets on their site, were real too
12:07.32phyberhttp://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/flash2pic.htm
12:07.35Gngskyah
12:07.37phyberI like how the keys look.
12:07.44phyberhttp://www.wowchina.com/topic/1.11/key.htm
12:08.05phyberall i care about really.  it will free so much space in my bank :)
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12:29.43Wobin_phyber: I agree
12:31.03Wobin_I wonder why all the WowChina pages are images
12:31.36ThianaPortability. That way they dont have to worry about the fonts the person viewing the page is using.
12:32.44Wobin_I dunno, that seems a bit... meh
12:33.03Wobin_Anyone who visits the sites should have the capability to read the characters
12:33.23Wobin_And really, with the size of China, that's not too difficult =P
12:34.27ThianaAnd windows shouldnt be so popular, but common sense doesnt equal reality ;)
12:35.22Wobin_I mean, more that the majority of people seeing that site already has the capability to read the characters
12:35.38Wobin_s/has/have
12:35.52ThianaIn theory yes.
12:36.12Wobin_well not in theory =)
12:36.19Thiana~poke purl
12:36.27purlACTION grabs a syringe
12:36.31Wobin_I didn't tack on the ending /
12:36.46Thiana~cookie purl
12:36.55Wobin_I would say from observation that any browser released to the public in China is capable of reading the characters
12:37.16Thiana~emulate purl
12:37.20purlACTION tries to look like itself
12:37.20Wobin_~botsnack
12:37.20purlthanks, Wobin_
12:37.43Thiana~emulate Wobin
12:37.52Wobin_~cookie
12:38.00Wobin_I haven't been memorable enough to get a purl emulate =)
12:38.03Thianalol
12:39.02Wobin_hm, I should go figure out filter saving for RevEng
12:39.31[MoonWolf]~emulate moonwolf
12:39.35purlACTION Howls to the moon
12:39.40Wobin_rofl
12:39.58[MoonWolf]I never do that!
12:40.09Wobin_sure sure... only when the moon is full =)
12:40.18Thiana~botsnack
12:40.18purl:), Thiana
12:40.42Thiana~literal emulate moonwolf
12:40.52purl"emulate moonwolf" is "<reply> I hate you, I Hate you, I HATE you, Call me || <action> Howls to the moon"
12:41.00Thianalol
12:41.06Wobin_moonwolf is Amidala?
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12:41.16ThianaHi Kael :)
12:41.18Wobin_THE TRUTH IS FOUND OUT!
12:41.22*** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ
12:41.26Kaeltenhi
12:41.34[MoonWolf]no, that is a quote from wc3
12:41.36KaeltenWobin_,  yer weird :)
12:41.42[MoonWolf]figure out the unit yourself.
12:41.45[MoonWolf]hey kael.
12:41.48Kaeltenhey moon
12:41.55Wobin_Succ
12:42.28Kaeltenc-g seems to be down
12:42.29Wobin_My mistake, Amidala would be I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, I love you!
12:42.48Wobin_:), Thiana
12:42.52[MoonWolf]banshee
12:46.17[MoonWolf]give them hell
12:46.32netcurseKaelten our load balancer is doing up and down
12:46.43Kaeltenah
12:46.54Kaeltenwas just surpised it was down, :)
12:47.04Kaeltenheh, I hope to make a sale today.
12:47.14Kaeltenmore sales == more money
12:48.03Kaeltenwell guys I'll see you later
12:50.07[MoonWolf]give them stuff, let them give you money
12:50.29Qaarh[MoonWolf], isn't that the point of making sales..?
12:50.34[MoonWolf]yes
12:50.46[MoonWolf]anyway
12:50.48[MoonWolf]moving on.
12:50.48Qaarhhehe
12:50.52Industriallol
12:51.29[MoonWolf]I yust farted!
12:55.16Industrial..
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14:33.02Wobin_Still at work, Qaarh?
14:33.45netcursewobin can you retry http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/ ?
14:37.30Wobin_Works great now, net
14:38.17netcurseok
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15:00.55Wobin_Do we have a frame pool management library yet?
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15:09.15QaarhWobin_, yes, I'm at work...
15:09.33Wobin_=P
15:09.46Wobin_hm.
15:12.53TainOh Wobin, would you be willing to name archives uniquely when you upload?  Having the same name every time I d/l a version of MrPlow from wowi makes me have to double-check if I have the right one already or not.
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15:16.06Wobin_ah, sure =)
15:16.21Wobin_I've just been converting the tarballs from the SVN
15:16.40TainI know it's a stupid little thing on my part.
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15:21.52Temwe don't need one
15:23.19Wobin_Tem: We don't?
15:23.28Temno
15:23.32Wobin_Why not?
15:23.35Temmanage your frames your own damn self
15:23.49Wobin_Well =P I was considering writing one =P
15:24.10Wobin_But okay =P
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15:37.06Temyou can do it if you want Wobin_
15:37.16Wobin_Woo!
15:37.17Temit would probably be pretty fun to implement
15:37.19Wobin_Thank you Tem! =)
15:37.31TemI just don't see myself needing/using one
15:37.52Wobin_Sure, I was just thinking a central repository for frames would be useful since they can't be GC'd
15:38.05Wobin_And overall, it'd be fairly simple
15:38.07Temlol, like you needed my blessing to continue
15:38.18Wobin_Exactly =P
15:39.08Temto me it just seems like overkill
15:39.24TemI haven't yet thought of a use for such a pool
15:39.56Tembut I honestly haven't put that much thought into it
15:40.14Tem(and I'm running on roughly 1 hour of sleep so I might not make much sense)
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16:17.01NeronixEvening
16:17.48Temmorning
16:18.19NeronixReady to watch the Nintendo press conference live :D
16:24.08hasteurl?
16:25.10Neronixhttp://e3.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3150572
16:25.18Neronixstream's there
16:25.27Neronixbegins in 2 or 3 mins
16:27.25hastety
16:27.31NeronixNp
16:38.26NeronixHeh, Miyamoto's conducting an ingame orchestra with the Wii controller XD
16:38.54NeronixAnd he's playing some racing game now
16:39.04NeronixNow Red Steel
16:39.04Wobin_Is he saying "Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii"?
16:39.10NeronixNot yet :P
16:39.10Wobin_Cause he should
16:39.17NeronixNobody's spoken yet. Still the intro
16:39.44NeronixYass, Reggie's up
16:40.06NeronixSee if he doesn't say he'll kick ass and take names again, it'd be an injustice
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16:50.35Ratbert_CPWobin_: What was the observable symptoms of the "random trashing" issue you mentioned yesterday?
16:50.50Wobin_Generally, the sound of trashing being done
16:51.02Wobin_only occurring when BB was autotrash active
16:51.14Wobin_At which point I'd open up my bag and notice something missing
16:51.32Wobin_Or if I was getting quest items, I'd notice that the count wsan't actually increasing past 1 =)
16:52.21Ratbert_CPHrm...  Not good...
16:52.51Ratbert_CPIt should have only been trashing about a second after closing a loot frame.
16:53.05Ratbert_CPAnd it should never trash quest items.  Ever.
16:58.58Tain"Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will have to ram it down their throats."
16:59.49Wobin_hehe
17:05.47Ratbert_CPAnyone here familiar with loadstring?
17:06.20Wobin_apart from the way it works?
17:07.24Ratbert_CPWell...  Not really.  I have a number of nearly-identical functions, and using loadstring+gsub would make it more nifty...
17:08.35Tem...
17:08.38Temwow
17:09.06Temhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4773
17:09.49haste"OK other than saying my NO, can you say LAG.. yes Ace and others alike are lag monsters.. If anyone knows about progaming will know this. Everyone that i ever hear say damn this lag, this game sucks and just have problems with the game use Ace, earth and others so I will still stand on my NO"
17:09.55hasteokey....
17:10.35hasteAce, earth and others?
17:13.45[MoonWolf]LOL
17:20.02Codayushaste: Heh, that thread took a turn for the bizarre.
17:20.18Wobin_dear god
17:20.21Wobin_What is he on? =P
17:20.32CodayusI dunno, but I want some.  :-)
17:20.33hasteCosmos
17:20.34Ratbert_CPHe's freebasing his own ego...
17:21.37Wobin_leaping from a towering ego with a parachute?
17:25.24Cairennokay, time to pick kiddo up from school for a dentist appointment, out for a couple hours, see you guys later
17:36.13TainHad a strange conversation last night about how eating pie leads to experimenting with cake as a gateway sweet... and ended up discussing freebasing powdered sugar.
17:38.15[MoonWolf]very weird
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17:45.21hyperChipmunkWobin_: that's base-jumping
17:45.33Wobin_aha
17:45.36Wobin_Ta
17:56.02CIA-1303hyperactiveChipmunk * r1641 10BulkMail/ (BulkMail.lua TODO):
17:56.02CIA-13BulkMail:
17:56.02CIA-13- Updated TODO with plans for GUI
18:00.27kergothwoke up with a slight fever, bad sore throat, upset sinuses / runny nose, and had to come into work to finish up a task. fun fun
18:01.08[MoonWolf]but your done now ?
18:01.58kergothnot quite, no
18:13.59Ratbert_CPkergoth: Are there any vile implications in using loadstring to create a number of nearly identical functions?
18:14.46kergothno more vile than defining functions in the .lua directly. its just another lua chunk, from lua's perspective
18:15.03Ratbert_CPOK.  that's what I needed to hear.
18:16.26TainTekkub: FuMailFufuBarMail or whatever the hell these things are named doesn't show me new mail I have when I log on.
18:27.00hyperChipmunkWobin_: funny
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18:41.31Industrialwow.. eredar...
18:42.08IndustrialTekkub: seconded
18:42.16[MoonWolf]i stand fast, we are not getting damn playable eredar
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18:42.34Industrialyou lose
18:42.37Industrialhttp://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4116784fb.jpg
18:42.40[MoonWolf]eredar are the whoel reason sargeras was corrupted in the first place, they are ruling the burning legion in his absence.
18:42.45[MoonWolf]we are NOT getting eredar.
18:42.45Industrialhttp://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5088/4116772yv.jpg
18:43.02Industrialyou lose
18:43.09[MoonWolf]woo, thats one picture more then the panda one.
18:43.31Industrialnotice the big screen
18:43.41[MoonWolf]I could photoshop that.
18:44.10Industrialwanna bet? 500g
18:44.12[MoonWolf]also note, 4 tentacles not 2.
18:44.12Industrial:P
18:45.28[MoonWolf]also, there is no link with the eredar and dreanor.
18:46.06Industrialfine
18:46.10Industrialthen ill stick with dark trolls
18:46.14[MoonWolf]and if that is a video, why isnt the video online!
18:46.29[MoonWolf]BECAUSE ITS NOT REAL
18:46.38IndustrialARE YOU SURE MOONWOLF?
18:46.42hyperChipmunkhttp://www.blizzard.com/press/060509.shtml Holy God
18:46.47[MoonWolf]YES
18:47.11[MoonWolf]wow, cool.
18:47.12[MoonWolf]finally
18:47.23[MoonWolf]this is going to be better then the last final fantasy.
18:47.46hyperChipmunktoo bad it's live-action
18:47.49Wobin_Advent Children?
18:47.53[MoonWolf]yeah
18:47.54Wobin_Was it that bad?
18:48.25hyperChipmunkI would kill for a feature-length movie at blizz's cutscene quality, impractical though it is
18:51.14Wobin_Industrial: I need some Vim help =P
18:52.41QaarhAdvent Children is a state of the art movie of you like the Final Fantasy VII universe. It's a mediocre movie if you haven't played the games though
18:55.41hyperChipmunkWobin_: I can maybe help ya
18:56.42Wobin_I tried to use a 'folding' function
18:57.02Wobin_it works if I follow each step of the function manually, but not just calling the function
18:57.27hyperChipmunkhm, k can't help you =P
18:57.36Wobin_http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~mjmcguff/learn/vim/folding.txt
18:57.37hyperChipmunkI never bothered with folding functions; I just use indent
18:57.58hyperChipmunk99% of the time, that folds my code sufficiently
19:04.48HoJ|Slaymanwhat do you guys say, Rat, Pig or Turtle?
19:05.02Wobin_Toitle!
19:05.15Wobin_Well that's what I'm getting
19:05.36Wobin_Then I'll take him on a tour of the Shimmering Flats and kill his bretheren
19:07.37hyperChipmunkis there documentation at all for acegui?
19:08.43Wobin_Not much =(
19:08.46Wobin_It's on the wiki
19:09.19hyperChipmunkooh
19:09.44Wobin_Generally speaking, it's probably easier to lua it up yourself =)
19:10.43hyperChipmunkdo we have listbox support yet?
19:11.05Wobin_Tem's the person to ask I think
19:11.37Temhaha
19:11.38Temno
19:11.51hyperChipmunkthat's the impression I got
19:16.29CIA-1303icetrain * r1642 10oRA_Zone/ (oRA_Zone.lua oRA_Zone.toc oRA_Zone.xml oRA_ZoneLocals.lua):
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19:16.29CIA-13Semi-rewrite
19:16.29CIA-13Redesigned UI to use a scrollist
19:16.29CIA-13Added funky name colors
19:16.30CIA-13Made the names clickable (target unit)
19:16.32CIA-13People offline are now shown as offline
19:18.52ElkanohyperChipmunk, if got once again a nil bug with BattlegroundFu :( iirc it was on line 615 when trying to show the tooltip in AB
19:19.17hyperChipmunkmost recent version? I swear I fixed that
19:20.14Elkanosvn checked out one hour ago or so
19:45.15kergothi wish i'd stop trying to conclude python functions with 'end'
19:47.23Wobin_hehe
19:47.33Wobin_You've been lua'd!
19:48.14kergothindeed
19:49.42kergothits interesting how similar lua's metamethods are to python's __*__ methods of its classes, though
19:49.48kergoth__getattr__ is just like __index
19:49.56kergoth(for . indexed stuff anyway)
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20:38.25[MoonWolf]cladhaire, you there ?
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20:48.10Ratbert_CPkergoth: You around?
20:48.27kergothRatbert_CP: somewhat
20:48.30Ratbert_CPOr anyone with a good knowledge of Lua, tables  and loadstring
20:48.35Ratbert_CPhttp://ace.pastebin.com/708224
20:48.43Ratbert_CPWhy won't the loop work?
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20:49.16kergothWobin_: i can probably help you with your vim question
20:49.33Wobin_woot
20:49.43Wobin_Did you see the link I posted earlier?
20:49.55Ratbert_CPSpecifically, it complains about executing a nil function at around line 30/31
20:50.08Wobin_http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/~mjmcguff/learn/vim/folding.txt
20:50.15kergothRatbert_CP: because those items in the table arent the keys, they're the values
20:50.22kergothyou want for _,i in
20:50.30Ratbert_CPDo'h!
20:50.32Wobin_I'm using the first function in that but replacing the search for { with "function"
20:50.44Wobin_but it doesn't seem to be working for me =(
20:51.05Wobin_If I physically place the cursor on the word 'function' and hitting % and it moves to the right 'end'
20:51.08[MoonWolf]not only that ratber, ask them if they are actually behind the computer.
20:51.09hyperChipmunkoh, goodie, we're talking about tables
20:51.11Wobin_but that folding thing doesn't
20:51.32hyperChipmunkis there a way to index a table with a table?
20:51.41kergothyes, you can use anything but nil as a key
20:51.45hyperChipmunkit seems to work ok in construction, but retrieval
20:51.45kergothincluding functions, tables, whatever
20:52.24kergothits quite common to use table keys when holding metadata. that table would then be weak keyed, so it doesnt prevent the tables used as keys from being gc'd
20:52.29hyperChipmunki can't figure out how to retrieve from i.e. foo={}; foo[{bag=1, slot=2}] = "bar"
20:52.55kergothyou cant.
20:53.03kergothbecause you dont have a reference to the table you created for hte key
20:53.11kergotheach call to {} creates a _new table_
20:53.13hyperChipmunkahh-ahhh
20:53.26kergoth{bag=1, slot=2} is not the same as the next {bag=1, slot=2}
20:53.34kergoth== and ~- obey object identity, not content
20:53.41hyperChipmunkrighto
20:54.03kergothWobin_: gimme a sec, i've never tried to have intelligent folding in lua, i just set fdm=indent
20:54.05hyperChipmunkso bar={bag=1, slot=2}; foo[bar] = "bar" would work, but probably not give the results I want
20:54.28kergoththat would work, adn i dont know what you want so i couldnt say
20:54.28kergoth:P
20:54.32hyperChipmunk=)
20:54.43hyperChipmunkwell, I'd be calling arbitrary bags and slots
20:55.11kergothWobin_: heh, % doesnt work for me in lua, it jumps from function to return, then from return to end :\
20:55.27Wobin_bah
20:55.27[MoonWolf]weird
20:55.37kergothcourse i'm using vim7, maybe thats part of it
20:55.41Wobin_I see what you mean
20:55.45hyperChipmunkso if I did baz={bag=1, slot=2}; assert(foo[baz] == "bar") I'd get snubbed
20:55.47Wobin_Well that'd do it =P
20:55.50kergoth:P
20:55.54[MoonWolf]cant you make vim use it correctly ?:
20:56.02Wobin_wtb more intelligent %'ing
20:56.05kergothyes, you can customize matchit behavior
20:56.09kergothmatchit is the plugin that gives intelligent %
20:56.17kergothjust looks like no one has done so for lua
20:56.22kergothi'll look into it
20:56.26kergothi dabble in writing vim plugins
20:56.43[MoonWolf]you dabble in everything that has either a macro or a plugin interface.
20:56.55kergoththis is true
20:57.18[MoonWolf]ofcourse it is, 80% of us here do it too.
20:57.34hyperChipmunkyea, difference being you're good at it
20:57.40hyperChipmunkI are sux
20:57.55hyperChipmunkand I answered my own question; I was correct in assuming it wouldn't work
20:58.08kergothah, there it is.  fixing the % behavior as we speak
20:58.51[MoonWolf]necronomicon is awesome.
20:59.04kergothyep
20:59.06[MoonWolf]its like... usefull and not buggy laggy and in the way when playin gthe game.
20:59.38kergoththose dumbasses
20:59.45[MoonWolf]with the few times i tried the original i was fighting the damn thing more then using it.
20:59.46kergoththe lua ftplugin sets up a shitty matchit deal
20:59.49kergothnot smart
21:00.06hyperChipmunkso if I wanted to retrieve the proper container frame with a table indexed by bags and slots, how would be the best way to do it?  foo[bag .. ", " .. slot] = frame?
21:00.08kergothdo or function or if matches up with return or else or elseif
21:00.11kergothdoesnt care which
21:00.17hyperChipmunkthat seems nubish
21:01.04[MoonWolf]i can see the logic in that structure, im no lua or table wizzard though.
21:01.23kergoththey wanted to avoid mentioning end more than once in the pattern
21:01.27hyperChipmunkyea, just seems there'd be a better way to do it to keep comparison options open
21:01.29Ratbert_CPYou could always go for the two-dimensional array...  foo[bag][slot]
21:01.46hyperChipmunk*thunk*
21:02.13hyperChipmunkI'm not an idiot, really
21:02.25Ratbert_CPNobody thinks you are...
21:02.27[MoonWolf]you simply did not hink about it.
21:02.48hyperChipmunkoh wait, yes i did
21:02.57hyperChipmunkI can't pairs() that
21:03.10hyperChipmunkhmm
21:03.14Ratbert_CPTrue...  You'd need nested pairs()'s
21:03.15[MoonWolf]do you need to ?
21:03.23hyperChipmunkyea =P
21:03.31hyperChipmunkI just wanted to put some info into the indices
21:03.44hyperChipmunkI already use the table
21:03.57hyperChipmunkjust would have been convenient to ..ohhh
21:04.00hyperChipmunkno, I don't
21:04.41[MoonWolf]i had to write php today, and forgot ; on every second line
21:09.27cladhaire[MoonWolf]: I'm here for a minute.. whats up
21:09.52[MoonWolf]two things, the thing with your pm's, but i already replied to that in the thread you made.
21:10.01[MoonWolf]and did you read my suggestion in perfectraid ?
21:10.26cladhairenot yet
21:10.27hyperChipmunkwhy are you making suggestions about perfectraid when you've got your own raid frames addon?
21:10.38[MoonWolf]DAMN YOU
21:10.46hyperChipmunk>8D <3
21:11.18[MoonWolf]Anyway, its nothing really important, yust something i would like to see because i use it in gbs a lot
21:11.32cladhaire[MoonWolf]: Yes, you'll be able to add custom functions for that
21:11.38[MoonWolf]coolio
21:11.58[MoonWolf]thanks in adcance for that then.
21:12.33cladhairei.e. PerfectRaid:RegisterStatus("|cFFFFFFFFFlag", function (unit) return UnitName(unit) == zomgSomeGlobalVariableThatTracksFlagCarrier end)
21:12.38cladhaireor just simply
21:13.10cladhairePerfectRaid:RegisterStatus("|cfffffffFlag", "Interface\\Icons\\TextureOfTheFlagCarrierZomg")
21:13.11kergothlets see, to sanely implement this folding..
21:13.30cladhaireyou'll have to do AV/AB the former way, and the flag carrier the latter way.
21:13.36[MoonWolf]yep
21:13.38[MoonWolf]makes sense
21:13.42hyperChipmunkheh...'for i, v in pairs(foo) do for j, w in pairs(v) do print(w) end end' works!
21:14.15kergothi need to iterate over all if|function|do starting points in the line, hit % on it, check if we stayed on that line or moved to another, if the latter, store that for later use in a script local variable and increment the foldlevel
21:14.21kergothyeah, that should do
21:14.37hyperChipmunksomewhere, some God of Programming is at this moment hurling a thunderbolt towards my keyboard
21:14.42[MoonWolf]Now write it.
21:14.47[MoonWolf]hyperChipmunk ?
21:14.58hyperChipmunkit's just ugly =P
21:15.01ckknighthey all
21:15.05cladhairehey ckknight
21:15.06cladhaireok.
21:15.22clad|gym[MoonWolf]: And the answer to every "Can perfectraid show me this" .. the answer is probably yes =)
21:15.38[MoonWolf]If it can be tracked that is.
21:15.49clad|gymcorrect
21:15.56clad|gymif you can print it.. i can find a way to show it.
21:16.25[MoonWolf]Write that stuff up and ill write the bg stuff as an example.
21:18.01[MoonWolf]I love my demonology lock with felpuppy, fireball hits me for 143, I resist 36 and 32 gets absorbed.
21:19.09Ratbert_CPckknight: Is the 1.2 FuBar API pretty much pure TabletLib for the tooltip?
21:19.26ckknightyea
21:19.34ckknightit is
21:20.05Ratbert_CPOK...  Any other significant changes from the 1.0 API?  Still the same UpdateText, etc?
21:23.21CIA-1303ckknight * r1643 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua MinimapContainer.lua): FuBar - fixed nil field.
21:24.16hyperChipmunkcrud
21:24.17ckknight1.0 is frozen
21:24.28ckknightthat's why I split the API
21:24.35hyperChipmunknow that I got this crazy mess all working, I forgot the reason I wanted it that way >8\
21:24.37ckknightthe even releases are frozen
21:24.46ckknightwhen I release FuBar 1.2, the 1.2 API will be frozen
21:29.11Ratbert_CPSo, I should keep my old-school tooltip?  Or is there an incremental roadmap?
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21:40.45CIA-1303ckknight * r1644 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - added better erross.
21:42.52ckknightRatbert_CP, the main changes with 1.2 are the new menu and the new tooltip
21:43.04ckknighthey Cairenn
21:43.10ckknightand hey LaerbeeJo
21:43.10Cairennhey ckknight
21:43.37Ratbert_CPWhat is your stance on plugin development?  Do you want people to start transitioning now, or should we wait for 1.2 to be released?
21:43.42kergothneat!
21:43.50kergothmy lua folding script hangs vim consuming 100% of my cpu
21:44.04LaerbeeJoHey hey, CK.
21:45.19Industrialkergoth: i upgraded to vim70 today on windows
21:45.28ckknightRatbert_CP, the 1.2 API is practically frozen now
21:45.29kergothIndustrial: yay
21:45.31ckknightbut not definitely
21:45.34Industrialkergoth: checked out the tabs just a littl (not alot of time)
21:45.39ckknightyour choice
21:45.45Ratbert_CPOK.  I'll work on rewriting the plugin.
21:45.47Industrialbut kergoth, OMG THE LITTLE X IN THE CORNER IS SO CUTE!
21:45.49ckknight1.2 has a lot of shinier features
21:45.52Industrial^____________^
21:45.52kergothhehe
21:46.09Industrialits really vim'ish but with a new touch. i like it
21:46.24Ratbert_CPAnd rewriting my GUI's XML to add a few more screens to it...
21:51.15Wobin_whee
21:51.19Wobin_I'm now crashing WoW
21:51.55Cairennyou've changed your name to Tem?
21:51.56Ratbert_CPBRB...
21:53.15TainBlah been having intermittent problems with my mouse for a couple months now, finally just had to go buy a new one.
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21:57.29LaerbeeJoOkay, boys and girl...
21:57.39LaerbeeJoI need more Visor assistance. :\
21:57.56TainVisor is the devil!
21:57.58LaerbeeJoAnd also, I'd just like to say that the new shammy talents made me cry.
21:58.01LaerbeeJoBut not in a good way.
21:58.03LaerbeeJo*sobs*
22:00.40[MoonWolf]id like to take this moment to say, whaterver the screenshots are, that are NOT eredar.
22:01.20LaerbeeJoEredar!
22:01.25LaerbeeJoMy server.
22:01.36[MoonWolf]lol
22:02.20TainWait who are you, LaerbeeJo?  You're capitalizing setences and using punctuation, that's not normal.
22:02.25LaerbeeJohttp://ace.pastebin.com/707143
22:02.35LaerbeeJoI'm Sarah.
22:02.56Wobin_damnit
22:03.07[MoonWolf]a girls.... oh the noes. there are no girls on the interne,t pix plz, OMG BOOBIES
22:03.13[MoonWolf]so now that we have had that
22:03.13CIA-1303ckknight * r1645 10TabletLib/ (API.html Lib/TabletLib.lua): TabletLib - Register can now take another parent with which to get information from.
22:03.14Wobin_Why is my WoW crashing =(
22:03.16[MoonWolf]moving on.
22:03.24[MoonWolf]Wobin_, you are channeling tem.
22:03.28LaerbeeJoHeh, right.
22:03.35ThianaNew shammy talents?
22:03.39Wobin_Yes. Yes I am
22:03.42Wobin_~emulate tem
22:03.49purlDammit, that's it. I'm breaking a new [something]!
22:03.49CIA-1303ckknight * r1646 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - tweaked tooltip.
22:03.51LaerbeeJoAnyhoo...can someone look at that pastebin doothinger and see why my OnClicks don't stay?
22:03.56ckknighthey Cairenn
22:04.04LaerbeeJoAnd yes, shammy talents.
22:04.04TainThat all seems reasonable, LaerbeeJo.  What happens?
22:04.06Cairennyo ckknight?
22:04.10LaerbeeJoThey make my level 60 CRY.
22:04.11ckknightfeel like testing out the minimap buttons?
22:04.23Cairennsure, gimma linkage
22:04.43ckknightokay, hang on
22:04.44[MoonWolf]Cairenn, i was only make sure that we had those silly things before someone actually did it serieously.
22:04.47LaerbeeJoWell, I have the functions saved in the LUASlinger lib and ran the Visor:Do part and they work beautifully until I log out.
22:04.53Cairennheh, I know sweetie
22:05.08TainOh ok, the ButtonToggle() functions don't get saved anywhere between reloads.
22:05.09[MoonWolf]kk
22:05.15LaerbeeJoAh.
22:05.20hyperChipmunkwtf punctuation
22:05.25hyperChipmunkstop that
22:05.25LaerbeeJoSo I need to set up a thinger that runs those each time a char logs in?
22:05.26hyperChipmunkright now
22:05.33LaerbeeJoI can't help it.
22:05.35ckknighthttp://ckknight.hopto.org:8080/FuBar-1.1.1646.zip
22:05.39Cairennbtw [MoonWolf], we edited your post in the thread on Ace
22:05.39hyperChipmunkfight it!
22:05.41[MoonWolf]Punctutuation is good.
22:05.44TainThose functions have to be defined somewhere either in a script that runs each time you log in, or you can technically define them inline in the Visor command.
22:05.44LaerbeeJoMy mom was an English professor.
22:05.50ThianaWhat new shaman talents?
22:05.51[MoonWolf]Cairenn, what post ?
22:05.58hyperChipmunkThiana: evil ones
22:06.02LaerbeeJohttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/shaman2/talents.html
22:06.06ckknighthyperChipmunk, I figured out the bug that gave you no tooltip
22:06.13hyperChipmunkoh? what was it?
22:06.13Cairenn[MoonWolf]: The one referred to in this thread: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4773
22:06.29LaerbeeJoI tried using the /vz thing, but it doesn't save on log either.
22:06.31ckknightI didn't commit TabletLib, so you weren't using the proper version
22:06.39[MoonWolf]ah that
22:06.42hyperChipmunkhaha
22:06.46hyperChipmunkthat'd do it
22:06.47[MoonWolf]it was open to editing by tem anyway.
22:07.15ckknightyou mind testing as well?
22:07.16[MoonWolf]im not really good at saying things like that in a subtle way.
22:07.18Industrialkergoth: im running ubuntu on my laptop
22:07.22Industrialno hassle ftw
22:07.24CairennWell, we were primarily editing the previous edits by him as it was.  Just thought I'd let you know, though.
22:07.27ckknightI kinda want to push it out, cause there are bugfixes in it as well
22:07.29Industrialand i just found out this:
22:07.35Industrial$ sudo passwd
22:07.38IndustrialOMG
22:07.43ckknightyou didn't know about that?
22:07.45Industrialwhy didnt i think of that earlier?
22:07.52[MoonWolf]well eeuh
22:07.53Industriallike.. duh?:D
22:08.01[MoonWolf]isnt that documented in like 5000 different places ?
22:08.24Industrialuh, i didnt know?
22:08.27Industriali just found out :D
22:08.35[MoonWolf]anyway
22:08.40Industrialgo on go on
22:08.40Industrial:p
22:08.44[MoonWolf]have fun with you now passport protected root account.
22:09.02Industrialwell i wont have to type sudo anymore
22:09.04Industrialevar!
22:09.09[MoonWolf]su ftw.
22:09.13hyperChipmunkI'll test it, yea
22:09.16Industrial\o/
22:09.42[MoonWolf]sudo is a nice concept, but ill take su mode when i have to do more then one command in root thank you.
22:09.48CairennOh well for ... does anyone remember what the heck I did before to fix WoW when it started doing the stupid uber-small, split screen, weird graphic bug thingy?
22:09.55hyperChipmunk"passport-protected root account" O_o
22:10.01Wobin_hurrah
22:10.07TainLaerbeeJo you should be able to do this:  http://ace.pastebin.com/708388
22:10.10Wobin_now Wow is crashing silently on rl
22:10.14IndustrialhyperChipmunk: scary thought
22:10.57TainPeople should just learn to use sudo for everything, it's good practice for future life.
22:10.57LaerbeeJoOh, wow, thank you.
22:11.18CairennIf I recall correctly, it was something to do with playing in windowed mode ...
22:11.20TainNote the "should."
22:11.24hyperChipmunkTain: /agree; I too, am a sudoer
22:11.38IndustrialTain: maybe visor really needs some notepad frontend itself... so you can wreck out those script handlers and everyone will be happy with their own little lua powered (!) setup scripts.
22:11.39[MoonWolf]how about the console asks you every time
22:11.44hyperChipmunks/I/I,/
22:11.51[MoonWolf]would you like to execute that command in root mode ?
22:11.54TainIndustrial: Not a terrible idea!  Let me know when you finish it. :)
22:11.59[MoonWolf]in a would you like to supersize that order tone.
22:12.07TainAre you using MS Clippy as your sudo manager?
22:12.18hyperChipmunkit has to be a big red button like in the movies
22:12.31IndustrialTain: well.. its not like... i mean i meant.. :X
22:12.31LaerbeeJoTain: Also, I read that the OnClick for "Left Button" and "Right Button" weren't working if used on the same button.  Do you know if that's still true?
22:12.32hyperChipmunkand it has to flash saying, ACCESSING PROTECTED SYSTEM FILES
22:12.32[MoonWolf](is on a ms only system right now)
22:12.37IndustrialTain: ;D
22:12.39LaerbeeJoIt mighta just jbeen old.
22:12.40hyperChipmunkand then you push enter to upload the virus
22:12.44LaerbeeJoErr, been.
22:12.46[MoonWolf]well at least supershell, (ms should have stuck with the monad name)
22:12.51[MoonWolf]has decent functionality.
22:13.00hyperChipmunkthey renamed it to supershell?
22:13.04TainLaerbeeJo: That definitly was an issue at one point, it (heh) should be fixed now.
22:13.04[MoonWolf]yeah
22:13.10LaerbeeJoI read about six hours worth of Visor stuff yesterday, so I might be confused.
22:13.13LaerbeeJoOh, sweetola.
22:13.13Industrialeheh
22:13.17hyperChipmunksadness
22:13.21TainPowershell.
22:13.30[MoonWolf]powershell
22:13.32hyperChipmunkM-m-m-m-MONSTERSHELL
22:13.37[MoonWolf]same bad marketing
22:13.37GenNMX|ThraeTain: Hey, before I go poking around blindly, when you split up Visor into Visor and VisorActionButtons, did you change what syntax Visor:Do could accept?
22:13.41hyperChipmunkyea, SuperShell would be stupid; shells are supposed to be small
22:13.44IndustrialLOL
22:13.45IndustrialhyperChipmunk:
22:13.45Industrial:
22:13.46Industrial:p
22:13.49[MoonWolf]now that would be funny.
22:13.53TainWhich is just absurd.  I could use Start - Run - msh.exe
22:13.59TainI'm not going to type powershell each time.
22:14.06hyperChipmunkpsh
22:14.07hyperChipmunkomg
22:14.08[MoonWolf]msh and monad were cool names.
22:14.09hyperChipmunkit's psh
22:14.11[MoonWolf]had meaning behind them.
22:14.13TainGenNMX|Thrae: No, should be exactly the same.
22:14.16hyperChipmunkYES! I suddenly like it again
22:14.29IndustrialhyperChipmunk: psh
22:14.35hyperChipmunk"Hey, how do I do...?"
22:14.37hyperChipmunk"psh"
22:14.41hyperChipmunk"wha?"
22:14.42hyperChipmunkpsh
22:14.42Industrialbaadoom tisch!
22:14.45Industrial:P
22:14.47TainMoonWolf there was actually a post by one of the Monad developers on a blog that the marketing department saw that people really liked it and decided it needed a better name.
22:14.56Industrialoh well
22:14.58TainThat's where Powershell came from.  So sad.
22:14.59Industrialnn guys
22:15.00Industrial\o/
22:15.03Cairennnight Industrial
22:15.05Industrialand gals, Cairenn
22:15.06Industrial:)
22:15.07TainHave a good one Industrial.
22:15.12LaerbeeJoOh, man...that turtle makes me so happy.
22:15.12ckknightcya indie
22:15.19LaerbeeJoGood night, Indie.
22:15.22[MoonWolf]I liked that name, that was one of the only projects out of ms with a GOOD name.
22:15.22ckknightturtle?
22:15.31TainYou should be able to control the Turtle with in-game LOGO.
22:15.40[MoonWolf]hehe
22:15.42Cairennckknight: in a word, yum
22:15.42LaerbeeJohttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/events/childrensweek/
22:15.49ckknightCairenn, :-)
22:15.51[MoonWolf]im all for an ingame logo interpreter.
22:15.53ckknightI'm gonna post
22:15.56LaerbeeJoThe turtle prize from the Children's Week.
22:16.01LaerbeeJoHe's so adorable.
22:16.02GenNMX|ThraeHmmm, then why is EasyVisor having problems?
22:16.03LaerbeeJoIt's painful.
22:16.14Cairennckknight: now we just need the authors of plugins to add it, and I'll be a *very* happy camper
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22:16.27ckknightauthors of plugins?
22:16.33[MoonWolf]where do you find the stupid children in the alliance side ?
22:16.34ckknightit's for every 1.2 plugin
22:16.38kergothregarding what people were talking about earlier, i never, ever use su, and use sudo constantly.  if i'm feeling lazy, i add myself to the sudo group so as not to be prompted for my password
22:16.41TainNot sure GenNMX|Thrae, I'm pretty sure there have been no changes to the command processing at all for a long time.
22:16.44LaerbeeJoI'm not sure...it says it on the page, though.
22:16.54LaerbeeJoAlliance makes me cry.
22:16.58Cairennckknight: aye, but not everyone is updated yet
22:17.01ckknightsame here, LaerbeeJo
22:17.08[MoonWolf]kergoth, isnt that like the same as logging in as root anyway ?
22:17.10ckknightCairenn, yea, I'm gonna freeze 1.2, that should give some motivation
22:17.18LaerbeeJoEspecially now that I'm an uber-weak Resto Shammy.
22:17.22ckknighthell, I'll just do that now
22:17.22TainAlthough I have to admit, shamefully, that I've never looked very closely at EasyVisor. :(
22:17.27LaerbeeJoThey love me in MC, though. *sigh*
22:17.31Cairennckknight: the two I want it for, in particular, are Aspect and Tracking
22:17.37[MoonWolf]manatide!
22:17.39Cairennthen I can ditch bc_*
22:17.44LaerbeeJo*cry* I hate Manatide.
22:17.50LaerbeeJoI wanna be Enhancement!!
22:17.51GenNMX|ThraeTain: I did notice that doing even /vz set s=0.7 on a button can have some very weird results when they're pr'd to each other. I need to do some more tests.
22:18.02Cairennbut I've gotten SO used to having them on my minimap that having them elsewhere feels awkward to me
22:18.12kergoth[MoonWolf]: from a security perspective, yes, but one of the reasons people are advised to avoid logging in as root directly is to avoid accidents, and to ensure that you always -know- when you're root.  i prefer calling sudo explicitly when i want to be root, and otherwise not.
22:18.26CIA-1303ckknight * r1647 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBar.toc README.txt): FuBar - upped version to 1.2
22:18.28GenNMX|ThraeTain: EasyVisor just calls Visor:Do mostly, it's just a bunch of commonly-used functions for Visor like arranging buttons into grids, etc.
22:19.07Cairennckknight: beep me when you've got it uploaded to WoWI so I can get it approved for you :)
22:19.09LaerbeeJoDoes anyone use otravi_unitframes?
22:19.21hyperChipmunkhaste prolly does
22:19.28[MoonWolf]I dont really log in as root, i yust elevate my rights for that console window for that session.
22:19.34ckknightCairenn, will do
22:19.34LaerbeeJoOr can anyone explain why the tooltip for those is different than my regular one?
22:19.38[MoonWolf]but i guess its a preference thing.
22:19.52kergoththeres something wrong if you ened to be root that long.
22:19.53TainActually the scaling stuff does have the potential to have an issue in some cases, I think.  Because we never had a way in the past to find out where a frame's anchor point(s) were so we had to make certain assumptions based on the center of the frame.
22:20.06kergothyou should be root as little as possible, for specific instances
22:20.28kergothi.e. make /usr/local writable by the staff group, and add yourself to it, to avoid having to 'make install' as root
22:20.41TainNow that there is a way to enumerate the anchor points it's possible to fix that I think.
22:20.57[MoonWolf]kergoth, you are ofcourse right, and i am ofcourse, lazy.
22:21.01kergothhehe
22:21.12Tain~laziness
22:21.13purlLAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer.
22:21.13GenNMX|ThraeTain: Yeah, I'll take a closer look and report back to you. I remember trying to scale each button individually and getting the same problem EasyVisor now gives.
22:22.04TainIt is predicated on me actually gearing up ambition to dive into the positioning/scaling code again.
22:22.32[MoonWolf]visor is the assembly of wow.
22:22.34TainWhich is the most complicated part of all of it the way things currently are.
22:22.53TainIt seems like something that would be simple.  Just set the scale.  
22:23.18TainExcept you have to also store the new x/y based on the new scale.
22:23.19LaerbeeJoUgh, the mismatch is driving me crazy. :\
22:27.50LaerbeeJoIs there something out there that shows you the x,y of your mouse on your screen?
22:28.58hyperChipmunkdude
22:29.01hyperChipmunktoday is like
22:29.05hyperChipmunkman I'm on a ROLL
22:29.14hyperChipmunkBulkMail might be done tonight
22:29.29Cairenndude
22:29.31Cairennlike, totally
22:29.33hyperChipmunkI'm SO psyched
22:29.43Cairennthat would be, like, so kewl!
22:29.47hyperChipmunk~whaleslap Cairenn
22:29.48purlACTION beats Cairenn upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
22:29.57GenNMX|ThraeSee hyperChipmunk, I told you that stuff would "expand your mind"!
22:30.00TainLaerbeeJo: x, y = GetCursorPosition()
22:30.00Cairenn~whaleparry hyperChipmunk
22:30.01purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry hyperChipmunk's attacks.
22:30.14hyperChipmunknuuuu you can't use my own purl emotes against me
22:30.16Cairenn~whaleblock Cairenn
22:30.17purlACTION shields Cairenn with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag
22:30.28Cairennseems to me I just did, next?
22:30.28LaerbeeJoOh, nice.  Can I use that on a frame?
22:30.37LaerbeeJoLike VisorActionButtonN?
22:30.45GenNMX|ThraeCairenn is knowledgable on the ways of the purl.
22:30.58[MoonWolf]the purl is strong in this one.
22:31.00LaerbeeJoErm, I guess I mean is there one for frames. :)
22:31.01hyperChipmunkCairenn is a whale
22:31.15hyperChipmunkthat's why their usage comes so naturally to her
22:31.49Wobin_Rev 1644 - ckknight (1 file(s) modified)
22:31.49Wobin_FuBar - added better erross.
22:31.55hyperChipmunkrofl
22:32.02Wobin_It's good to see we're getting a better quality of errors in Fubar =)
22:32.08Wobin_Nothing but the best!
22:32.33ckknighterrors.
22:32.50ckknightbasically, I just changed one error to make sure to say the name of the plugin
22:33.02ckknightthe lack of fuCompatible one
22:33.14TainYou LaerbeeJo: You can do x, y = frame:GetCenter()
22:33.21GenNMX|ThraeWho reports the errors of the error function?
22:33.49TainBut I think that returns x,y in the frame's scale, which won't match up to the screen's scale necessarily
22:33.56[Ammo]hmm
22:34.06TainOr, maybe it does.  I forget!
22:35.08[Ammo]stupid nerd orgasms
22:35.16[Ammo]40 people screaming on vent
22:35.21[Ammo]too much :(
22:35.55LaerbeeJoOkay, last bit, I swear...do any of you know how to get otavi to use the same tooltip everything else does?
22:36.09hyperChipmunkkick him in the balls and send in a patch
22:36.16LaerbeeJoIt has this horrid plain one instead of my pretty TipBddy one.
22:36.23LaerbeeJoErm, Buddy.
22:36.42[Ammo]I found out today the Error function in oRA contains an error :p
22:36.44hyperChipmunkhaste: you here? Answer the lady's question!
22:36.45TainI've never used the otravi frame so no help there.
22:36.46[Ammo]will fix that tomorrow
22:36.52hyperChipmunk~seen haste
22:36.54purlhaste is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 64 messages. Is idling for 5h 16m 21s, last said: 'Cosmos'.
22:36.58hyperChipmunkoh
22:36.59gnorlishhyperChipmunk: bulkmail finished would be amazing
22:37.13hyperChipmunkit's spiffyroo
22:37.20gnorlishi recently made an attempt to replace all CT stuff, only have massmail and the timer left
22:37.56TainI tried bulkmail in the last couple of days, it didn't destroy my items.  I was happy.
22:38.03hyperChipmunk>8D
22:38.13gnorlishi feel surrounded by greatness in here
22:38.16gnorlishso many crazy coders
22:38.26TainThe slash command stuff I'm still not sure about, but the point and click from your bag works ok.
22:38.31gnorlishnice to be able to directly interact
22:39.08TainWe even occasionally talk about code, gnorlish.  Only occasionally.  :)
22:39.08hyperChipmunkgnorlish: yea, you should have seen it before I arrived
22:39.30Cairenngnorlish: it was useful ;)
22:39.49gnorlishsomeday i may actually delve into the coding aspect, but coding was my least favorite part of compsci major
22:40.02hyperChipmunkO_o
22:40.07gnorlishas of now i just mix and match addons and help out the guild with stuff
22:40.36GenNMX|ThraeA Computer Science major is mostly coding for most colleges
22:40.44gnorlishyes, yes it was
22:40.47TainActually I'm just here because I had to buy a new mouse.  My new mouse is cordless and rechargable, and so I can't use it until it charges.
22:40.53LaerbeeJoPet Info hates me.
22:41.07LaerbeeJoIt doesn't show me a tooltip unless I detach it.
22:41.14LaerbeeJoI've angered the ModGods.
22:41.24TainAnd despite my best efforts WoW won't let you play without a mouse.  
22:41.35GenNMX|ThraeLaerbeeJo: For the last time, you need to FEED it to increase its happiness! Addons must be fed megabytes.
22:41.50TainWhatever you do, don't feed it after midnight.
22:41.54LaerbeeJoOH NO!
22:41.59gnorlishand only feed it beer and pop
22:42.01gnorlishno water
22:42.02GenNMX|ThraeThen it becomes a Kosmos addon.
22:42.02LaerbeeJoThat's why it's all green and awful.
22:42.07Tainhahahah GenNMX|Thrae
22:42.10hyperChipmunkhahaha
22:42.41LaerbeeJoRecapFu won't show me one either.
22:42.53LaerbeeJoI must have fed it too late as well. *sniffle*
22:46.12Wobin_Indy: CAn I have your Vim config files again?
22:54.40CIA-1303ckknight * r1648 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed detach settings issues.
22:56.26Qaarhnight
22:56.53Tekkub*erf*
22:57.04Tekkubso it seems I'm little Anthony's first homo
22:57.24Tekkubwe cleared thru stage 2 today and moved on to stage 3
22:58.44Wobin_?
22:59.41CIA-1303ckknight * r1649 10FuBar/background.tga: FuBar - changed default background.
23:00.30LaerbeeJoSo, Tain...
23:01.02Wobin_Industrial: You there?
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23:01.09LaerbeeJoWhen I open my macro frame, all the hidden buttons unhide and the buttons to control them no longer work. :\
23:01.40*** join/#wowace gngsk| (n=gngsk@c-68-33-204-115.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
23:01.52LaerbeeJoBut going to the AH fixes it.
23:02.44TainThat is... I don't even know what could possibly cause that.
23:03.19LaerbeeJoYeah, I thought it was weird as heck too. :(
23:04.00LaerbeeJo*sigh* Maybe I'm just not cut out for this thing/
23:04.06LaerbeeJoErr, .
23:04.22TainTekkub: I tried MailFu for the first time this weekend.  I like it except for the fact that it doesn't tell me if I have mail when I log on.
23:05.02Tekkubit should... :P
23:05.06cladhaireI need something that grabs my mail automatically when i tell it too.
23:05.07TainWell, it doesn't.
23:05.15hyperChipmunkdude! dude!
23:05.19hyperChipmunkI have GUI
23:05.27TekkubBoss, one update is fired on a fu plugin at login, right?
23:05.34cladhairesomeone send me a PM.. i need an auto-matically eat my mail when i tell you to-addon.
23:05.57TainLike how, cladhaire?  I have an auto-collecting addon for items and money from auctions.
23:06.51Tekkubtain... do you mean it's say "No Mail" or that the number is wrong?
23:07.53TainIt says no mail.
23:08.04TainYet when I go to my mail box there's stuff there.
23:08.06Tekkubokeyi
23:08.16Tekkubwell here's question #2....
23:08.19TainIt's happened a bunch of times on logins and two different characters.
23:08.44Tekkubwhat does HasNewMail() report at that time?
23:09.08Tekkubcause here's my UpdateText....
23:09.10Tekkublocal hasmail = self.charData.ahalerts or self.charData.total > 0 or (HasNewMail() and not self.checkedmail)
23:09.47TainI can check that the next time.
23:10.11ckknightCairenn, uploaded
23:10.16Tekkubdrop a debug line in my UpdateText method, see what it is
23:10.33Tekkubmy guess is that that's returning nil when it's first called
23:10.51Tekkubboss: Update is fired on a Fu plugin on Enable, right?
23:10.57Cairennckknight: all set :)
23:11.05ckknightI think UpdateData and UpdateText
23:11.11ckknightnot sure about UpdateTooltip
23:11.17Tekkubprolly not tooltip
23:11.36Tekkubbut text is the one giving me troubles it seems
23:11.36ckknighthrm
23:11.42TekkubI hate the mail system in the game
23:11.50Tekkubit's events are so fucked up
23:12.03ckknightI also put in a much better screenshot for FuBar
23:12.30TekkubTain: Other question, is the minimap icon shown at the same time?  If your supressing it turn it back on and test
23:12.51Tekkubcause there's a LOT of times I didn't have a MM icon, and that was the API's fault
23:13.04TekkubMailFu uses the same API, of course :)
23:13.14TainI have the minimap mail icon hidden, I'll unhide to test.
23:13.34Tekkubso Bossman, I wrote a nice mod at work today, looks like I get to lern2tablet tonight :)
23:13.40TainI decided I hate all Minimap icons and must destroy them.
23:13.54Tekkub:) MM Icons can be annoying, yes
23:14.18hyperChipmunkstill some work to be done, but......
23:14.28hyperChipmunkhttp://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8248/bmgui6fg.jpg
23:14.31hyperChipmunk=D
23:15.17ckknightTekkub, fun
23:15.46hyperChipmunkEVERYONE LOOK AT MY CREATION
23:16.41Tekkubyes chip, good boy, now flush it
23:17.03Tekkuband wash your hands
23:18.27hyperChipmunkyou mock me =\
23:18.35ckknight~chippersnack
23:18.37purlACTION feeds ckknight some nuts.
23:19.01hyperChipmunkI did this for you, Tek. I did it for YOU!
23:24.54*** join/#wowace Gngsk (n=gngsk@c-68-33-204-115.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
23:28.22CIA-1303hyperactiveChipmunk * r1650 10BulkMail/ (7 files): (log message trimmed)
23:28.22CIA-13BulkMail: 0.4.5
23:28.22CIA-13- Switched bag display to highlight items ("pushed") being sent, rather than desaturate items not being sent
23:28.22CIA-13- Alt-click toggles items to be sent; all other clicks work normally
23:28.22CIA-13- GUI added!
23:28.22CIA-13<PROTECTED>
23:28.24CIA-13<PROTECTED>
23:28.34hyperChipmunk=( I got trimz0rized
23:28.52hyperChipmunk7 files! woo!
23:31.29ckknightcurse has issues
23:31.58SilverShadowSo it seems. Lemme look into it
23:32.33ckknightgot a 503 on submit
23:33.03gnorlishcurse has been on and off all day
23:34.07Tekkubcurse, issues? nevar!
23:34.19SilverShadowSadly we couldn't 'stress test' the server till we went live...
23:35.08*** join/#wowace LaerbeeJo (n=elektric@c-71-199-19-64.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
23:35.14gnorlishchip can bulkmail be completely controlled using slash commands
23:35.14Tekkubhehe, wanna hear something funny?
23:35.20ckknightsure
23:35.33gnorlishor did you drop some of the slash commands as you built the gui
23:35.37Tekkuball the school busses round these parts say "Sebastian (sp?) County Special School District"
23:35.44TekkubI giggle every time I see one
23:36.00ckknightso?
23:36.10hyperChipmunkgnorlish: it can
23:36.14Tekkub"Special" :P
23:36.17ckknightoh
23:36.18ckknightmeh
23:36.25Tekkub<insert joke about the short bus here>
23:36.36hyperChipmunkexcept you can't do on-the-spot additions with slash commands
23:36.47TekkubI dunno, guess you have to live round here, everyone does seem a little "special"
23:36.49hyperChipmunkyou'd have to add them as autosends and remove them after
23:36.49gnorlishi'll check it out tonight
23:36.59gnorlishafter aq20
23:37.18SilverShadowWell apparently we are under a DOS attack...
23:37.21hyperChipmunkI'm working on adding a list to be processed "next time only"
23:37.30Tekkuboh yea sure, blame your users again
23:37.33hyperChipmunkso you can set things up while you're not at a mailbox
23:37.38hyperChipmunkthen just hit send when you get there
23:38.06TekkubSilverShadow to users: "Why are you hitting yourself" *punch*
23:38.20SilverShadow*smirk*
23:38.38ckknightThe Chinese are attacking!
23:38.39Tekkubdon't get popularity and DOS canfused *grin*
23:38.54Tekkubaltho it could be zeeg, he is a dick after all
23:38.54CairennSilverShadow: would be interesting to hear where the attack is originating.  Can't help but to wonder if it's the same folks that were hitting us a while ago.
23:39.06SilverShadowActually this is a real DDOS attack
23:39.07hyperChipmunk19:34  * SilverShadow pokes Tekkub with the giggle stick. <--- not sure about that one
23:39.18Tekkubwhy chip?
23:39.25TekkubI like the giggle rod more
23:39.43hyperChipmunkso long as there's a distinction
23:40.24Tekkubor the giggle meatrocket
23:40.35SilverShadowhow about the Giggle Sledgehammer?
23:40.43netcurseWe are installing a syslog
23:40.50TekkubI've not met that one...
23:40.59netcurseto check where is this from:{
23:40.59TekkubI have met the concussion sledgehammer tho
23:41.23Tekkubck: don't you pay attention?
23:41.26Tekkubthey had a giggle log
23:41.47Cairennnetcurse: *if* I remember correctly, the one attacking us originated in Denmark, although I'd have to confirm that with Dolby, who is unfortunately offline right now
23:42.15Tekkubstupid denish...es
23:42.21Cairennthat was a month or so back, for us
23:42.31ckknighthttp://a.im.craigslist.org/as/xc/V4e29yaPrwo8x78GHXEYoN7bObOl.jpg
23:43.18CIA-1303wobin * r1651 10FrameLib/ (. FrameLib.toc Lib/ Lib/FrameLib.lua):
23:43.18CIA-13FrameLib - Inital commit: It doesn't appear to work properly, with objects disapparing for no apparant reason.
23:43.18CIA-13Committing up so others can poke at it.
23:43.19hyperChipmunkthat's um, great
23:43.28hyperChipmunkhehe wob
23:43.36hyperChipmunkthat's better than improved errors
23:43.57hyperChipmunkwobin * r1651 FrameLib/
23:44.01hyperChipmunk+ Nothing works
23:44.21hyperChipmunk+ Maybe someone else will do my work for me
23:44.21ckknightwhat is it?
23:44.28gnorlishi like how they left her top on
23:44.38gnorlishvery true to life
23:44.55ckknightmeh
23:51.03Wobin_ckknight: Frame pool
23:51.11Wobin_or really UIObject pool
23:51.51ckknighthrm
23:57.51gnorlishora is making me want to drown kittens right now

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