irclog2html for #wowace on 20060508

`00:07.51`	`Gngsk`	`cool, thx`
`00:08.05`	`hyperChipmunk`	`haha`
`00:08.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the ice cream; I just got the reference`
`00:08.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`[Tigule and Foror's Strawberry Ice Cream]`
`00:09.22`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Tigole and Furor =x`
`00:09.46`	`CIA-13`	`03ckknight * r1604 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - removed remnants of fuCompatible`
`00:10.14`	`ckknight`	`hyperChipmunk, should I release FuBar 1.2?`
`00:11.09`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I haven't developed on 1.1 yet; probably better to ask someone who has`
`00:11.26`	`ckknight`	`you haven't?`
`00:11.31`	`hyperChipmunk`	`not really`
`00:11.34`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`00:11.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`been away, and working on bulkmail`
`00:11.52`	`ckknight`	`well, Kemayo seems to be away`
`00:11.58`	`Codayus`	`purl, 8ball?`
`00:12.00`	`purl`	`ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: It is certain`
`00:12.13`	`Codayus`	`purl thinks you should release it ckknight. :-)`
`00:12.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hehe`
`00:12.19`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`00:12.23`	`ckknight`	`I'll take it into consideration`
`00:12.30`	`Codayus`	`:-D`
`00:12.43`	`ckknight`	`anyone else worked on FuBar 1.1?`
`00:12.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hehehehe purl is a wise counsellor`
`00:18.44`	`CIA-13`	`03ckknight * r1605 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - fixed hooking bug.`
`00:23.22`	`CIA-13`	`03tekkub * r1606 10FuBar_MailFu/ (. Core.lua): FuBar_MailFu - Tweaked how the Minimap icon is supressed, should never pop up unintentionally again!`
`00:26.21`	`Tem`	`How feasible would it be for every addon on WoWI to be in an svn repository?`
`00:26.30`	`Tem`	`would the size be too overwhelming?`
`00:27.39`	`ckknight`	`counting compilations?`
`00:27.43`	`Tem`	`no`
`00:27.46`	`Tem`	`fuck compilatons`
`00:27.49`	`ckknight`	`I don't think it'd be too bad`
`00:27.54`	`Tem`	`compilations can go die in a fire`
`00:28.04`	`ckknight`	`they have their purpose`
`00:28.09`	`Tem`	`compilations are the devil`
`00:28.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`they're retarded`
`00:28.25`	`Tekkub`	`compilations == lots of externals grin`
`00:28.31`	`Tem`	`not always Tek`
`00:28.39`	`Tekkub`	`well in this sense :)`
`00:28.41`	`Tem`	`people like to modify the versions they include`
`00:28.57`	`Tekkub`	`well it doesn't have to be pure externals`
`00:29.00`	`Tekkub`	`could be a mix`
`00:29.34`	`Tekkub`	`but still, meh who cares about compilations :)`
`00:29.44`	`Tem`	`cladhaire: you still around?`
`00:29.50`	`CIA-13`	`03ckknight * r1607 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - added more checks to plugin settings.`
`00:30.03`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`00:30.03`	`cladhaire`	`whats up`
`00:30.24`	`Tem`	`what was the reason you wanted to switch us from the mini repos to the one?`
`00:30.33`	`Tekkub`	`permissions`
`00:31.30`	`Tem`	`oh wait`
`00:31.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, notice you don't have to run the password script everytime a new person is added anymore? =x`
`00:31.56`	`Tem`	`I just realized why wowi could probably never have an svn`
`00:32.04`	`Tem`	`security`
`00:32.13`	`ckknight`	`Curse is making an svn`
`00:32.26`	`Tem`	`but how do you moderate the input?`
`00:32.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`same way wikipedia does, i assume`
`00:32.45`	`ckknight`	`I've talked to NeT about it`
`00:32.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`make it easy to rollback`
`00:32.51`	`Tekkub`	`curse is gonna aim for per-user repos from what I understand`
`00:33.00`	`ckknight`	`that makes sense`
`00:33.12`	`Tekkub`	`so permissions won't matter.. your repo your password`
`00:33.18`	`Tem`	`I dun care about the structure right now`
`00:33.23`	`Tem`	`I'm talking about moderating`
`00:33.24`	`ckknight`	`for something with low permissions like ace's, you'd need a relatively small community`
`00:33.32`	`cladhaire`	`Tem: That was the reason tho, being able to regulate permissions and groups`
`00:33.43`	`Tem`	`not what I mean`
`00:34.00`	`Tem`	`When you upload to wowi, things go into a moderation queue`
`00:34.01`	`cladhaire`	`nod`
`00:34.06`	`Tem`	`how the hell do you have a moderation queue on a commit`
`00:34.07`	`Tekkub`	`curse doesn't do that anyway`
`00:34.09`	`cladhaire`	`you can't.`
`00:34.12`	`cladhaire`	`well you technically can`
`00:34.13`	`Tem`	`exactly`
`00:34.22`	`cladhaire`	`have a pre-commit hook that puts it in the queue, and then delays the commit`
`00:34.23`	`cladhaire`	`but.. yeah`
`00:34.23`	`ckknight`	`in curse's v2, you just need to be approved for the first one`
`00:34.24`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`00:34.27`	`ckknight`	`after that, it's free reign`
`00:34.33`	`Tem`	`hence the "the reason wowi probably can't ever have an svn"`
`00:34.38`	`Tekkub`	`I like reign`
`00:34.39`	`hyperChipmunk`	`that's what curse v1 did too`
`00:34.41`	`cladhaire`	`aye`
`00:34.43`	`ckknight`	`ah, okay`
`00:34.44`	`Tekkub`	`it reigns a lot here`
`00:34.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`not commits, but uploads`
`00:35.02`	`Tekkub`	`no curse v1 you have to get every mod approved`
`00:35.03`	`Tem`	`Don't reign on my parade`
`00:35.09`	`cladhaire`	`We can still split things up`
`00:35.12`	`cladhaire`	`or all break off into curse repos`
`00:35.13`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`00:35.17`	`cladhaire`	`dunno what people plan to do`
`00:35.18`	`ckknight`	`but why?`
`00:35.22`	`Tem`	`I'm not using a curse repo`
`00:35.28`	`ckknight`	`it's working for us now`
`00:35.31`	`cladhaire`	`I need to resolve the websvn issue`
`00:35.36`	`Tekkub`	`I honestly doubt I'll move to curse as main repo considering autversioning...`
`00:35.36`	`cladhaire`	`but thats the only problem I've seen`
`00:35.41`	`cladhaire`	`and thats cause the repo is FUCKING HUGE`
`00:35.49`	`Tekkub`	`unless they can set the first rev number for me`
`00:35.50`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`Autversioning?`
`00:35.53`	`Tem`	`I would use a wowi repo, but other than that I'm NOT moving from svn.wowace`
`00:35.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`heh, if our repo is huge...`
`00:35.58`	`Tekkub`	`*auto`
`00:36.17`	`Tem`	`yeah hyperChipmunk, I was thinking along the same lines with my original question`
`00:36.17`	`ckknight`	`we already have 1600 commits`
`00:36.21`	`Tekkub`	`my mods set their version based off their commit number`
`00:36.30`	`Tekkub`	`as do ck's`
`00:36.38`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`00:36.48`	`cladhaire`	`hyperChipmunk: It is.. compare us to any of the big open source projects, and our repos are actually pretty huge`
`00:36.49`	`Tekkub`	`so we'd need our repos to start at commit #1600 or whatever instead of 1`
`00:36.51`	`ckknight`	`but, I mean, I'd consider 1.2.100 to be greater than 1.1.1500`
`00:37.23`	`ckknight`	`cladhaire, that's cause we're a bunch of little projects`
`00:37.27`	`cladhaire`	`nod`
`00:37.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`compare to what curse would look like =x`
`00:37.36`	`cladhaire`	`but still our source tree, and the number of revisions we have`
`00:37.39`	`cladhaire`	`hyperChipmunk: That wouldn't be one repo`
`00:37.43`	`cladhaire`	`it would be single repositories.`
`00:37.45`	`cladhaire`	`which are uber quick`
`00:37.55`	`cladhaire`	`for everything.`
`00:38.04`	`cladhaire`	`but given the way we work together.. it made sense to put all the ace projects together`
`00:38.12`	`Tekkub`	`yarr`
`00:38.12`	`cladhaire`	`i need to get this perl module installed but i'm having issues atm`
`00:38.20`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`Gah.. i'm so out of my league.. I -think- i get what you are saying.. but not sure. You basically want it to set the version number for you?`
`00:38.25`	`Tem`	`I want to run an "svn update * " on my addons directory and have all my stuff up to date`
`00:38.26`	`Tekkub`	`as purl I but she can help`
`00:38.35`	`hyperChipmunk`	`no, the svn has a number`
`00:38.42`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it increments everytime someone adds something`
`00:38.50`	`hyperChipmunk`	`watch next time CIA-13 announces a commit`
`00:38.55`	`Tekkub`	`basically silver... or my stuff would suddenly become v2 from v1602`
`00:38.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`we're at like #1600 right now`
`00:39.15`	`Tekkub`	`just set the initial commit number to whatever value instead of 1 and inc up from there`
`00:39.16`	`hyperChipmunk`	`some people put a special keyword in their files`
`00:39.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`so their versions say something like 1.2.$SVN_REVISION_NUMBER`
`00:40.00`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and svn automatically replaces $SVN_REVISION_NUMBER with whatever the number happens to be`
`00:40.11`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`hrm.. I'll ask our coders about it. I think one of the reasons it hasn't been done is beause people have odd stuff in their files and there is no standardization. however, doesn't mean we can't include it for those who do.`
`00:40.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`if you moved to a differen't svn, that number would go back to 1`
`00:40.16`	`Tekkub`	`the SVN client will automatically edit keywords in the files it commits for you`
`00:40.34`	`Tekkub`	`stuff like author, date, revision`
`00:40.43`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and suddenly newer versions (1, 2, 3) no longer have higher version number than your old ones (1600, 1601, 1602)`
`00:40.51`	`Tekkub`	`anyway, I'm sure there's some way to set the first commit number on a fresh SVN`
`00:40.53`	`Tem`	`if you put $Revision$ in your file and set an svn keyword, when you commit the file, the "$Revision$" gets replaced by "$Revision ##$" where ## is the current revision number`
`00:41.54`	`Tekkub`	`frankly I'm more for giving curse the SVN path off svn.wowace and it pulling it's updates from that`
`00:42.05`	`Tekkub`	`seems the path of least effort (for me)`
`00:42.30`	`cladhaire`	`What does that gain us?`
`00:42.39`	`Tekkub`	`I bet there's some sort of replication that can happen :)`
`00:42.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`CURSE'S USER BASE!!! $$$`
`00:42.48`	`cladhaire`	`we can replicate and dump the repo.. sure`
`00:42.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh, wait..`
`00:42.54`	`Tekkub`	`shrug easy posting to cursed`
`00:42.58`	`cladhaire`	`but it'd be the single repo-- you get the same issue if you break it out.`
`00:43.05`	`netcurse`	`Hello guys what are you talking about`
`00:43.09`	`cladhaire`	`heyas Ne`
`00:43.11`	`cladhaire`	`netcurse:`
`00:43.16`	`netcurse`	`sorry i just saw curse on the ligns i m so busy with this migration`
`00:43.20`	`Tekkub`	`svn.curse-gaming.com :)`
`00:43.41`	`netcurse`	`allrigght`
`00:43.48`	`netcurse`	`this is still in developement`
`00:43.51`	`Tekkub`	`v2 happening as we speak?`
`00:43.57`	`Tekkub`	`yea we know`
`00:44.03`	`netcurse`	`we are doing a test migration`
`00:44.05`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, that's why we're discussing it`
`00:44.06`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`They are/wil be testing the migration stuff`
`00:44.09`	`Tekkub`	`just discussing our SVN vs your plans`
`00:44.15`	`netcurse`	`if it happens well we go live, if not we go sleep`
`00:44.25`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`hehe`
`00:44.33`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`you guys will sleep.. I'll go watch more 24`
`00:44.59`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hehe`
`00:45.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`curse you, tekkub!`
`00:45.16`	`Tem`	`curses!`
`00:45.27`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you know why I like vim?`
`00:45.36`	`Tekkub`	`Someone ace Decurseive [sic]`
`00:45.52`	`Tekkub`	`^^`
`00:45.55`	`Tekkub`	`had to`
`00:46.02`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`oh.. if anyone wants to take over decursive, ask me.. quutar is my hubby.`
`00:46.13`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`00:46.13`	`Tekkub`	`holy pigshit!`
`00:46.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`!`
`00:46.19`	`Tekkub`	`and nope, don't wanna :)`
`00:46.19`	`hyperChipmunk`	`dude`
`00:46.29`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`o.0`
`00:46.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`tell him to stop slacking`
`00:46.35`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`He quit.`
`00:46.35`	`Tekkub`	`I hate users too, they can sod off`
`00:46.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I know`
`00:46.45`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`He's playing EvE online now.`
`00:46.47`	`hyperChipmunk`	`he wrote good stuff`
`00:46.52`	`Tekkub`	`EvE is... different`
`00:46.54`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`i don't think he's logged on wow in a month.`
`00:47.00`	`Tekkub`	`very purdy graphics`
`00:47.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`tell him to stop it and come back to wow`
`00:47.03`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`he's having fun with EvE's ingame browser`
`00:47.07`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`hahah`
`00:47.08`	`Tekkub`	`tho there's only like 5 backdrops`
`00:47.16`	`Tekkub`	`and the UI..... TEKKUB SMASH!`
`00:47.36`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`you don't play eve for the graphics.. he likes the ability to build stuff.. the reasearch, manufacturing.. the entire skill setup.`
`00:47.49`	`Tekkub`	`yea it's very different :)`
`00:47.55`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`i myself happen to love the fact that I can still be advancing my character while i'm playing wow >.>`
`00:48.18`	`Tekkub`	`it's relaxing turning on autopilot and watching it fly in the background while you do other shi`
`00:48.56`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`yea.. and mining.. on gods the mining..`
`00:49.13`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`I can do all my admin stuff for Curse while i'm devistating an asteroid field.`
`00:49.14`	`Tekkub`	`heh`
`00:49.20`	`Tekkub`	`yup`
`00:49.29`	`CIA-13`	`03ckknight * r1608 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed wrapping width.`
`00:50.03`	`Tekkub`	`eh oh... I just got hit with a galka craving`
`00:50.20`	`Tekkub`	`someone duo a tauren with me before I go back to FFXI for no good reason!`
`00:50.37`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`00:50.54`	`Tekkub`	`don't sound so excited...`
`00:51.27`	`Tekkub`	`I seriously need to find a duo partner, I havn't actually played the game in probably a month`
`00:51.37`	`Tekkub`	`endgame is so... meh`
`00:52.14`	`ckknight`	`I haven't played in a while, either`
`00:52.27`	`ckknight`	`actually, I did play for a little while`
`00:52.29`	`ckknight`	`started a guild`
`00:52.31`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`played what? WoW?`
`00:52.32`	`ckknight`	`for some reason`
`00:52.34`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`00:52.36`	`Tekkub`	`yea, WoW`
`00:52.39`	`ckknight`	`and I got up to like 80 members`
`00:52.41`	`ckknight`	`in 3 days`
`00:52.47`	`Tekkub`	`we mod like a shitton more than we play`
`00:52.55`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`00:53.07`	`Tekkub`	`we're pathetic even for nerds!`
`00:53.15`	`hyperChipmunk`	`=P`
`00:53.18`	`ckknight`	`you're a towel.`
`00:53.30`	`Tekkub`	`people think I'm lazy cause all I do is play games... but I don't even do that!`
`00:53.31`	`cladhaire`	`I've been playing Legendofares`
`00:53.33`	`cladhaire`	`its horrible =)`
`00:54.09`	`Tekkub`	`meh maybe I'll go find food and see if any of my TV recorded`
`00:54.18`	`Tekkub`	`I should have a new Foster's from friday`
`01:05.05`	`Cairenn`	`SilverShadow[CU]: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4937`
`01:14.59`	`*** join/#wowace HoJ\|Slayman (i=Slayman@d004050.adsl.hansenet.de)`
`01:16.52`	`netcurse`	`got to delay of 24 hours migration`
`01:17.01`	`netcurse`	`to much bugs left wouldn t be good for the users :p`
`01:18.22`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`hy Cairenn`
`01:18.28`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`sorry.. was in a diff channel.`
`01:18.34`	`Cairenn`	`not a problem`
`01:18.49`	`Cairenn`	`was just pointing it out to you`
`01:19.18`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`it's ok. Quu doesn't care. he's just wanting to know if someone wants to nap the main thing over at curse.. and take it over "offically".`
`01:23.58`	`Tem`	`Tekkub: you need a new screenshot for MailFu`
`01:24.04`	`Tem`	`the one you have now is fugly`
`01:24.31`	`Tem`	`mailfu is so ... cute? now. It deserves a better shot`
`01:24.36`	`ckknight`	`netcurse, :-(`
`01:25.00`	`netcurse`	`ya that s sad`
`01:25.06`	`netcurse`	`i m frustated`
`01:27.36`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`??`
`01:28.43`	`netcurse`	`na nothing :p`
`01:36.49`	`ckknight`	`I'm frustrated`
`01:37.17`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`oh?`
`01:37.28`	`ckknight`	`with Ace, actually`
`01:37.38`	`ckknight`	`so separate topic`
`01:37.39`	`SilverShadow[CU]`	`Ah.. can't help you there.`
`01:47.19`	`ckknight`	`kergoth, I hate to be pushy, but this whole situation is very frustrating for me. Has there been any proces/standardization when it comes to AceLibrary/AceOO and the whole mixins/addons ordeal?`
`01:47.41`	`cladhaire`	`We're not going to rush it.`
`01:47.49`	`cladhaire`	`We have not had an opportunity to talk about what we need to talk about.`
`01:49.23`	`ckknight`	`a plan needs to be made`
`01:49.26`	`cladhaire`	`Yes`
`01:49.28`	`cladhaire`	`and for that we need to talk.`
`01:49.35`	`cladhaire`	`the four peopel who need to.. have not been able to.`
`01:50.01`	`cladhaire`	`If its that imperative.. then you're going to have to come up with something of your own-- as much as forking is a bad idea.. but you've already been discussing it.`
`01:50.09`	`cladhaire`	`it hasn't been stagnant.. its just not moving at a pace you approve of.`
`01:50.23`	`ckknight`	`surely you could at least create a forum with which to post your current ideas, thus not needing everyone there at once`
`01:50.31`	`cladhaire`	`and we're working o that.`
`01:50.35`	`cladhaire`	`i can't create shit.`
`01:50.56`	`cladhaire`	`and kael is the project lead-- I'm not making decisions over his head, nor will anyone on the team.`
`01:51.01`	`cladhaire`	`we've all been very busy.`
`01:51.12`	`kergoth`	`kael and tem are way outta the loop on this stuff`
`01:51.13`	`ckknight`	`blasted beaurocracy`
`01:51.17`	`kergoth`	`they need to be brought up to speed`
`01:51.27`	`cladhaire`	`I asked Tem to make a core dev forum on the forums`
`01:51.31`	`cladhaire`	`so i can actually get in touch with people.`
`01:51.34`	`cladhaire`	`you as well.`
`01:51.41`	`kergoth`	`i'm certain they'll agree with what we're going for conceptually, once we talk to them`
`01:51.47`	`kergoth`	`the implementation though.. :)`
`01:51.52`	`cladhaire`	`But even you and I aren't 100% on the same page.. because of time-shifting =)`
`01:51.54`	`cladhaire`	`yeah`
`01:51.56`	`ckknight`	`why can't you implement it, then wait for approval?`
`01:51.57`	`kergoth`	`indeed`
`01:51.58`	`cladhaire`	`ther'es a lot that needs to be discussed.`
`01:51.59`	`cladhaire`	`no.`
`01:52.01`	`cladhaire`	`we don't work like you.`
`01:52.13`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`01:52.15`	`cladhaire`	`I don't believe in "Release early, release often". i think its crap, and I think its horrible for users and devs alike.`
`01:52.28`	`ckknight`	`but it shows progress`
`01:52.32`	`ckknight`	`and that's the point of freezes`
`01:52.34`	`kergoth`	`i've done a number of implementations locally, playing around with things, but this is an architectural decision that needs to be made`
`01:52.40`	`cladhaire`	`Its design.`
`01:52.45`	`kergoth`	`right`
`01:52.49`	`cladhaire`	`if you want us to implement without design, thats not going to happen.`
`01:53.07`	`cladhaire`	`i shoudl be able to stabalize the AceLibrary and basic standard library definitions within the next week or so.`
`01:53.24`	`cladhaire`	`not a deadline, just a projectino.`
`01:53.51`	`kergoth`	`we need to figure out exactly where the mixin embedding functionality is going to reside, and who's responsible for tracking that embedding. i think that's the biggest barrier at the moment`
`01:53.58`	`cladhaire`	`we dont all have 33 hours to pour into addons a day.`
`01:54.26`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: Its the core functionality of the libraries, and the stub framework that we need to decide, exactly.`
`01:54.29`	`cladhaire`	`its not exactly minor stuff.`
`01:55.06`	`ckknight`	`really, what I just want is the core to get done, a standard way to write the mixins/addons`
`01:55.14`	`Tekkub`	`yea I know it needs a new screenie :P`
`01:55.15`	`cladhaire`	`yes, and that's what we're working on.`
`01:55.17`	`ckknight`	`then I'd try to push out as many mixins as I possibly can`
`01:55.25`	`ckknight`	`which is what I'm waiting for`
`01:55.26`	`cladhaire`	`and therein lies the problem`
`01:55.28`	`cladhaire`	`we make a mistake`
`01:55.30`	`Tekkub`	`and I agree with clad, on core fundament stuff`
`01:55.34`	`cladhaire`	`and you've flown it out to the entire world.`
`01:55.36`	`cladhaire`	`you have no control =)`
`01:55.44`	`cladhaire`	`i won't push out shitty/buggy/unfinished code.`
`01:55.56`	`cladhaire`	`and my idea of testing isn't making the users submit bug reports.`
`01:56.01`	`Tekkub`	`but general addons, especially considering my past records... yea it's best I just put em out while they work :)`
`01:56.09`	`kergoth`	`unit testing is the way to go.`
`01:56.12`	`cladhaire`	`i'm a theoretical computer scientist.. who happens to be very skilled at writing software, and proving things out.`
`01:56.18`	`cladhaire`	`that's how I roll.`
`01:56.42`	`cladhaire`	`I may not be the project lead, but I am the only implementer of the two libraries using the framework.`
`01:56.47`	`cladhaire`	`and its going to be done correctly, and well.`
`01:56.55`	`Tekkub`	`look at that rollin`
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`01:57.10`	`cladhaire`	`<-- used to be fat, I would have rolled then.. now I just kinda bounce down the hill`
`01:57.28`	`Tekkub`	`so you used to be my type? :)`
`01:57.36`	`cladhaire`	`well i'm still husky.`
`01:57.44`	`Tekkub`	`or are you just "chubby" now?`
`01:57.44`	`cladhaire`	`er.`
`01:57.49`	`Tekkub`	`so you still are :)`
`01:57.50`	`cladhaire`	`i'm on the way down, lets put it that way =)`
`01:57.58`	`kergoth`	`i've got a few half done libraries that use the framework, and its really painless with aceoo. makes life much easier being able to actually code in an OO fashion, not the old half assed ways`
`01:57.59`	`cladhaire`	`no, my personality would set you off.`
`01:58.00`	`Cairenn`	`you look pretty good to me`
`01:58.06`	`ckknight`	`the pace seems too slow and time seems to be running out, at least for me`
`01:58.11`	`Tekkub`	`you sure of that?`
`01:58.19`	`Tekkub`	`boss is the one that pisses me off`
`01:58.20`	`cladhaire`	`ckknight: We don't all work on your pace.. sadly.. don't like it.. do something else.`
`01:58.22`	`Tekkub`	`stupid towel`
`01:58.42`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: nod.. we just need to get those last ditch details done, and lots of that has to do with what and how Kael wants things done.`
`01:58.49`	`kergoth`	`there is no deadline on this. the current stuff works. if you want something sooner, implement it yourself.`
`01:58.53`	`cladhaire`	`kergoth: Tem is asking Kael to get a forum up for us to discuss things.`
`01:59.20`	`Tekkub`	`see but clad... you've got to balance testing and actualy development`
`01:59.27`	`Tekkub`	`other you're just microsoft`
`01:59.34`	`Tekkub`	`*otherwise`
`01:59.38`	`kergoth`	`step one is us going over the concepts we've been talking about for weeks, the highly modular, no independent ace addon, true oo, etc`
`01:59.39`	`Tain`	`If only we had their numbers.`
`01:59.43`	`kergoth`	`get that through to tem and kael`
`01:59.47`	`cladhaire`	`yep.`
`01:59.48`	`kergoth`	`then get opinions on implementation`
`01:59.56`	`Tekkub`	`spend years working on crap and in the end it's really not that much different from the last version...`
`02:00.09`	`kergoth`	`Tekkub, that isnt the case here.`
`02:00.13`	`Tain`	`Somehow I do'nt think there's much danger of that specifically here, Tekkub. :)`
`02:00.14`	`cladhaire`	`Tekkub: See, that's the difference. =)`
`02:00.29`	`kergoth`	`the whole point of 2.0 is to make that major change in the way it all works`
`02:00.37`	`kergoth`	`if it wasnt a major architectural change, itd be a minor version`
`02:00.39`	`Tekkub`	`:P can't say much till you get your release out sometime this decade`
`02:00.57`	`kergoth`	`we can say as much as we want, just like you can spread all the nonsense you want`
`02:01.01`	`cladhaire`	`We can scrap all that.. but we're not going to do it for one author who is threatening to fork. If we're going to change the concept and drop what we're doing.. it'll be a decision that th eproject lead makes.`
`02:01.18`	`ckknight`	`I'm not threatening to fork`
`02:01.21`	`ckknight`	`I don't want to`
`02:01.25`	`ckknight`	`I'm just frustrated`
`02:01.28`	`Tekkub`	`that's not a knife, it's a spoon`
`02:01.30`	`cladhaire`	`i've heard you bring it up 2-3 times today.`
`02:01.37`	`ckknight`	`I brought it up in one conversation`
`02:01.39`	`kergoth`	`oh noes, its been whole weeks! gasp`
`02:01.54`	`kergoth`	`how long has ace been around? this time period is a drop in the bucket`
`02:02.02`	`cladhaire`	`shrug`
`02:02.07`	`Tekkub`	`we (I) just wace CeLibStub/AceLibrary/Circulaceion already`
`02:02.17`	`kergoth`	`the implementation wont take long to happen once the decision is made.`
`02:02.19`	`cladhaire`	`wace?`
`02:02.30`	`Tekkub`	`shut up and lern2type!`
`02:02.49`	`kergoth`	`i have like 42 billion different test object models implemented locally, just a matter of shoveling the right combination of tidbits`
`02:02.52`	`kergoth`	`heh`
`02:03.19`	`cladhaire`	`and what we end up with there.. and HOW libraries are written directly affects the AceLibrary implementation.`
`02:03.22`	`Tekkub`	`kerg... don't take this like the wrong way or anything.... cause it's not meant to sound mean....`
`02:03.38`	`Tekkub`	`but in the time I've been with Ace I can't think of a singe mod of yours :)`
`02:03.52`	`kergoth`	`and that has to do with what exactly?`
`02:03.58`	`Tekkub`	`I dunno`
`02:04.05`	`Tekkub`	`just felt like pointing it out`
`02:04.07`	`kergoth`	`dont take this the wrong way, but your skill with lua is mediocre at best.`
`02:04.54`	`Tain`	`Man this Ghost Hunters marathon is great.`
`02:04.56`	`cladhaire`	`~botmail Kaelten If you could set up a forum for the core Ace devs, so we can talk without all the noise, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.`
`02:05.05`	`cladhaire`	`did i do that right? =)`
`02:05.08`	`Tekkub`	`my code is constantly evolving, but I have come to terms with the fact that I'll never consider my stuff release quality and thus don't fret over getting it perfect before I publish it`
`02:05.10`	`cladhaire`	`~help`
`02:05.16`	`Kaelten`	`huh?`
`02:05.20`	`Kaelten`	`someone page me?`
`02:05.22`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`02:05.23`	`Tain`	`haha it worked, cladhaire !`
`02:05.24`	`cladhaire`	`hi Kaelten =)`
`02:05.26`	`Cairenn`	`wow, he lives!`
`02:05.30`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`02:05.33`	`cladhaire`	`Long discussion going on here.`
`02:05.38`	`kergoth`	`good for you. i'm happy for you. dont bitch and whine about other people's development being different from yours. i dont code addons.`
`02:05.39`	`Kaelten`	`sorry, if you say my name it pages me.`
`02:05.49`	`Tain`	`Let me explain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up.`
`02:05.50`	`cladhaire`	`the moral of the story is, I'd like a forum set up for you, Tem, Kerg and myself to discuss Ace 2.0 so we can hit things up offline when we need to.`
`02:06.07`	`Tem`	`Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten, Kaelten`
`02:06.11`	`Kaelten`	`one sec let me finish ordering pizza`
`02:06.14`	`cladhaire`	`lol ok`
`02:06.17`	`Tain`	`I like pepperoni and cheese.`
`02:06.21`	`kergoth`	`my god, we're all here at once.`
`02:06.34`	`Tem`	`wait wait`
`02:06.34`	`cladhaire`	`<-- is on the way out.. but i'm going to stick around as long as i can.`
`02:06.36`	`Tem`	`is that even possible`
`02:06.40`	`Tem`	`ah, there we go`
`02:06.44`	`Tem`	`cladhaire has to go`
`02:06.46`	`kergoth`	`i'm leaving shortly as well, have stuff to do with the gf`
`02:06.53`	`Tem`	`the universe isn't going to end`
`02:07.08`	`Tekkub`	`get her to do double "stuff" it'll put you in a better mood`
`02:07.34`	`Kaelten`	`back`
`02:07.49`	`Cairenn`	`front`
`02:07.51`	`kergoth`	`Tekkub, i may not have any wow addons released, but how many open source projects do you maintain?`
`02:07.53`	`Kaelten`	`top`
`02:08.00`	`Cairenn`	`promise?`
`02:08.01`	`kergoth`	`the lack of a release says absolutely nothing`
`02:08.08`	`Kaelten`	`:)`
`02:08.16`	`cladhaire`	`Hi Kael, how are you?`
`02:08.17`	`Kaelten`	`ok I missed something there`
`02:08.23`	`Kaelten`	`hey cladhaire, doing well`
`02:08.48`	`Kaelten`	`been rearanging furniture last few hours`
`02:19.03`	`Tain`	`I'm going to be doing that soon. Well assuming my rental application is accepted.`
`02:19.24`	`Tain`	`Then I'm paying people to move my shit, I'm not doing it again.`
`02:31.26`	`CIA-13`	`03tekkub * r1609 10FuBar_LootTyFu/ (. Core.lua):`
`02:31.26`	`CIA-13`	`FuBar_LootTyFu - Should now pick up any ML change, even if the ML isn't in the player's party`
`02:31.26`	`CIA-13`	`http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?id=10&a=viewfeature&featureid=246`
`03:01.59`	`cladhaire`	`can someone test commit for me.`
`03:04.20`	`cladhaire`	`.. anyone?`
`03:04.33`	`Cairenn`	`sorry clad, I can't`
`03:04.38`	`cladhaire`	`<3`
`03:08.14`	`Kaelten`	`test commit what?`
`03:08.22`	`cladhaire`	`anything =)`
`03:08.26`	`cladhaire`	`someone's gotta have some changes =)`
`03:08.33`	`cladhaire`	`i'll change PR`
`03:08.34`	`cladhaire`	`hold on`
`03:09.00`	`CIA-13`	`03kaelten 07Kaelten * r1610 10KC_EnhancedTrades/enhancedtrades.lua: KC_EnhancedTrades:fixed crystal typo`
`03:09.12`	`Kaelten`	`k`
`03:09.30`	`CIA-13`	`03cladhaire 07unstable * r1611 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Incremented version number as a test commit.`
`03:09.33`	`cladhaire`	`thanks.`
`03:09.39`	`cladhaire`	`i hosed the permissions`
`03:09.42`	`cladhaire`	`had to get them back`
`03:09.50`	`Tem`	`heh`
`03:16.32`	`Cairenn`	`night clad\|sleep, sweet dreams`
`03:29.17`	`Cairenn`	`Kaelten: you still around?`
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`03:34.37`	`Cairenn`	`will take that as a no`
`03:36.43`	`Tekkub`	`http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/310635`
`03:36.45`	`Tekkub`	`FUN!`
`04:02.29`	`Gngsk`	`nice animation`
`04:11.38`	`haste`	`ugh, I hate waking up wearly`
`04:11.44`	`haste`	`there is always a second reason :(`
`06:00.58`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`dang, I fell asleep and missed all the fireworks`
`06:01.33`	`sedatedChipmunk`	`back to bed; seeyas tomorrow >8P`
`06:05.33`	`Codayus`	`Fireworks?`
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`06:17.49`	`[MoonWolf]`	`mroning.`
`06:21.55`	`Tain`	`I should be sleeping.`
`06:22.53`	`[MoonWolf]`	`story of your life :P`
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`06:29.53`	`haste`	`"Are you sure you want to overwrite .config? y" d0h`
`06:37.02`	`CIA-13`	`03ckknight * r1612 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua PanelClass.lua): FuBar - fixed texture issues with creation/removal of panels.`
`07:02.14`	`CIA-13`	`03ckknight * r1613 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - color swatches no longer clickable when disabled.`
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`07:19.38`	`ckknight`	`hey [Cu]NeT`
`07:20.02`	`[MoonWolf]`	`morning`
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`07:24.11`	`*** topic/#wowace by [MoonWolf] -> wowace.com \| ace.pastebin.com \| I survived Gnomeregan! And only suffered minor brain damage!`
`07:26.17`	`haste`	`yay`
`07:35.19`	`Industrial`	`I have a zip file with pdf documents`
`07:35.34`	`Industrial`	`every doc contains info on wither how and where to level`
`07:35.42`	`Industrial`	`tricks for AoE grinding`
`07:35.47`	`Industrial`	`and making mon-ee !`
`07:37.02`	`haste`	`I have something similiar`
`07:37.13`	`haste`	`"how to quest yourself to L60 with two days played" :p`
`07:37.33`	`[MoonWolf]`	`none of those guides actually work for me...`
`07:37.57`	`haste`	`I enjoy grinding, so I keep on with it :)`
`07:38.34`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I can do lvl 29 damn fast.`
`07:39.21`	`[MoonWolf]`	`start in own terrotory till lvl 20 move the ashenvale grind naga there, move to scarred vale and grind hapries there, move back to the vale and farm satyr.`
`07:39.35`	`[MoonWolf]`	`40 is doable too only it starts taking some real time.`
`07:40.15`	`[MoonWolf]`	`after 40 I cant get my char to move that damn xp bar anymore`
`07:40.17`	`haste`	`friend of mine started to play in january, he has three L60s now :<`
`07:40.23`	`haste`	`mage, priest and warrior`
`07:40.45`	`haste`	`and he is leveling his druid now :S`
`07:41.38`	`Industrial`	`:S`
`07:41.43`	`Industrial`	`im playing 1 year now`
`07:41.48`	`Industrial`	`i have 5 lv 20's`
`07:41.52`	`Industrial`	`i cant choose`
`07:42.00`	`Industrial`	`i have palyed all classes to 20`
`07:42.12`	`Industrial`	`warlock was most fun`
`07:42.15`	`Industrial`	`i think`
`07:42.24`	`haste`	`yeah, I started a warlock on the alt on the side`
`07:42.30`	`haste`	`suddenly it was L60 :p`
`07:42.33`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`07:42.36`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lol`
`07:42.49`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I think you dont call it an alt then.`
`07:42.57`	`Industrial`	`just drain tank or use wand`
`07:43.10`	`ckknight`	`I wanna know how to get to 60 :-P`
`07:43.13`	`Industrial`	`pretty ez :P`
`07:43.32`	`haste`	`[MoonWolf]: I play both my characters the same amount actually :p`
`07:43.39`	`Industrial`	`haste: the 'to lv 60 in 2 days' i have includes hacks tho :( think the whole zip was pulled off of blizzhackers forum or something`
`07:43.56`	`haste`	`:(`
`07:44.07`	`haste`	`I'm checking the one I have here`
`07:44.14`	`haste`	`it's hunter/warlock only I think`
`07:44.18`	`Industrial`	`:o`
`07:44.19`	`Industrial`	`gimme`
`07:44.20`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`07:44.40`	`haste`	`give me a sec`
`07:44.52`	`ckknight`	`I'd also like to see it`
`07:45.19`	`haste`	`(this is so going to kill my connection)`
`07:45.38`	`[MoonWolf]`	`you dont need it anyway :P`
`07:45.54`	`haste`	`http://har.vondt.der.se/1-60/`
`07:48.21`	`ckknight`	`how fast is your connection?`
`07:48.36`	`haste`	`640kbit upload I believe`
`07:49.08`	`ckknight`	`that's not too bad`
`07:49.25`	`ckknight`	`I'm downloading, btw`
`07:49.27`	`ckknight`	`one at a time`
`07:49.35`	`haste`	`depends who you compare it to I guess`
`07:51.19`	`haste`	`I pay 699NOK a month for my 4Mbit/640Kbit`
`07:53.25`	`phyber`	`�61.58, ouch :/`
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`07:56.33`	`ckknight`	`haste, I was about to download the fourth and it got pretty slow`
`07:57.20`	`ckknight`	`and that makes me a sad panda`
`07:59.49`	`Gngsk`	`I was gonna load it up, but then I decided not to`
`07:59.53`	`Gngsk`	`:P`
`08:00.15`	`ckknight`	`I can rehost if I can download`
`08:00.42`	`Gngsk`	`well, I've leveled 3 toons to sixty and I think it's fun. not really interested in trying to do it in 2 days`
`08:00.48`	`Gngsk`	`but it'd be an interesting read`
`08:01.05`	`ckknight`	`I haven't leveled to 60 yet`
`08:01.26`	`Gngsk`	`what level, which faction, what kind of server?`
`08:02.01`	`ckknight`	`I play Horde, I've gotten up to 33 on a normal server`
`08:02.30`	`Gngsk`	`wow`
`08:03.33`	`[MoonWolf]`	`46 is my highest`
`08:03.42`	`Elkano`	`45 mine`
`08:03.51`	`[MoonWolf]`	`have a 42 warlock 46 rogue 39 rogue and a 39 hunter`
`08:03.58`	`[MoonWolf]`	`the last two are bg chars.`
`08:04.24`	`Gngsk`	`game changes a lot at 60`
`08:04.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and some assorted lvl 10 ish chars.`
`08:04.37`	`Gngsk`	`so simple in the lower levels, simple and sweet`
`08:04.45`	`Elkano`	`45 shaman, 45 rogue, 2? WL, 2? priest and some 1? chars`
`08:05.02`	`Gngsk`	`which is one reason I wouldn't wanna rush through it in a day, it's quite enjoyable :)`
`08:07.02`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I wish I could yust convert the xp from my 39 rogue and my 46 rogue and dump it on my warlock and hunter.`
`08:07.31`	`Gngsk`	`to the suggestion forums!`
`08:07.44`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yeah, like that will happen.`
`08:07.51`	`Gngsk`	`heh, probably not`
`08:08.22`	`Gngsk`	`"I'd like to turn in my teir 2 rogue for a teir 2 priest please."`
`08:09.07`	`[MoonWolf]`	`oh I dont like this warrior, makes mage alt. dumps warrior xp on mage.`
`08:09.44`	`Gngsk`	`easier to just get a guild mates account info`
`08:10.29`	`[MoonWolf]`	`but on the other hand`
`08:10.43`	`ckknight`	`it'd be cool if you could dump, say, half your xp`
`08:11.00`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I keep hoping a drunk gm will one day pop up and activate a flag on my account that give me unlimited talent points on all my characters.`
`08:11.28`	`Gngsk`	`that'd be fun!`
`08:21.44`	`CIA-13`	`03ckknight * r1614 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed width issue when no lines are present.`
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`08:27.18`	`haste`	`curses`
`08:28.53`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`08:29.03`	`[Ammo]`	`morning`
`08:29.11`	`ckknight`	`hey [Ammo]`
`08:29.15`	`ckknight`	`I got the first 3 images`
`08:29.18`	`ckknight`	`then you konked out`
`08:29.25`	`[Ammo]`	`euh?`
`08:29.51`	`haste`	`yeah, my ISP killed the connection`
`08:30.06`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`08:30.08`	`haste`	`and then I started a little flamewar over the phone with them`
`08:30.09`	`ckknight`	`how come?`
`08:30.26`	`[Ammo]`	`ah nvm, /me thought you were talking to him`
`08:30.44`	`haste`	`IP phone started to act up`
`08:31.24`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`08:31.40`	`ckknight`	`so it wasn't my fault?`
`08:32.07`	`haste`	`not that I know of`
`08:32.11`	`ckknight`	`alright`
`08:32.16`	`ckknight`	`can I get the other images now?`
`08:32.20`	`haste`	`not keep on, if the connection dies again I'll just start another flamewar :)`
`08:32.37`	`haste`	`s/not//`
`08:32.41`	`ckknight`	`okay`
`08:35.35`	`ckknight`	`it's dead again`
`08:36.15`	`Shyva`	`I really like those discussions between raiders and non-raiders xD`
`08:36.23`	`ckknight`	`hrm?`
`08:36.32`	`Shyva`	`like -> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general&T=8202326&P=2`
`08:36.59`	`Shyva`	`always whining that people who play more have better gear..`
`08:37.39`	`Industrial`	`people like that should reallt GTFO and go back to their playstation`
`08:37.51`	`[MoonWolf]`	`is it possible to have a flamewar outside of a forum or messaging service ?`
`08:38.35`	`Shyva`	`^^`
`08:41.42`	`Industrial`	`sure`
`08:41.45`	`Industrial`	`RL`
`08:41.56`	`Industrial`	`but thats a messaging service too`
`08:41.59`	`Industrial`	`air :P`
`08:43.00`	`Shyva`	`wat is een "primadonnas"? o.0`
`08:43.56`	`ckknight`	`a prima donna is a very successful singer of nonoperatic music`
`08:44.39`	`Shyva`	`eeeh`
`08:47.52`	`Wobin_`	`but the more colloquial use of the term means someone who expects to be treated like royalty, and gets very upset if they don't`
`08:48.00`	`Wobin_`	`aka Entitlement bitch`
`08:48.13`	`ckknight`	`right`
`08:48.56`	`Shyva`	`hm, ok :-) thanks ^_-`
`08:54.35`	`Gngsk`	`uh oh`
`08:54.51`	`ckknight`	`?`
`08:54.54`	`ckknight`	`I knew he died`
`08:54.59`	`Gngsk`	`hehe`
`08:55.03`	`Gngsk`	`he's gonna start a flame war`
`08:55.11`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yay!`
`08:55.16`	`Codayus`	`?`
`08:55.16`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I want chat transcripts!`
`08:55.50`	`ckknight`	`it's over the phone, I'm pretty sure`
`08:57.12`	`[MoonWolf]`	`recordings1`
`08:57.16`	`[MoonWolf]`	`recordings!*`
`09:36.19`	`Wobin_`	`heh I'm lucky`
`09:36.59`	`Wobin_`	`Even though I typoed the compostlib.lua in the toc of RE, most people who download it are likely to have other addons which embed it =P`
`09:37.06`	`Wobin_`	`yay for emblibs =P`
`09:39.19`	`Industrial`	`;p`
`09:44.08`	`ckknight`	`hehe`
`09:50.10`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	`i got errorbombed on a FuBar:Reset()`
`09:50.26`	`HoJ\|Slayman`	[11:50-311] FuBar\compat-1.0.lua:1451: attempt to index field `profiles' (a nil value) ---Core.lua:43: attempt to index a nil value ---FuBar.lua:227: attempt to index field `data' (a nil value)
`09:56.20`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`09:56.21`	`ckknight`	`meh`
`09:56.29`	`ckknight`	`using the latest version?`
`10:01.16`	`Slayman`	`yupp`
`10:01.27`	`Slayman`	`the Core.lua was from Tekkub. MailFu`
`10:02.04`	`Slayman`	`kk everything's fine it appears`
`10:02.47`	`Slayman`	`ignore that from above for now, thx for yer patience ~~`
`10:06.16`	`Slayman`	`while talking, TopScoreFu has an overlapping issue as the last record shares the last line with the Scroll Down(yy / xx)`
`10:07.42`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`10:13.08`	`Slayman`	`yeah it's nothing spectacular at all`
`10:20.03`	`Industrial`	`With the heart of a dragon we riiiiiide`
`10:20.05`	`Industrial`	`metal`
`10:23.21`	`Wobin_`	`hm`
`10:23.27`	`Industrial`	`when united we come and divided they fall lalalala :P`
`10:23.31`	`Industrial`	`tonight you will witness it allllll Proud and so glorious, standing before of us. Our swords shining bright in the light`
`10:23.33`	`Wobin_`	`Is there any functional difference between SpellAlert and WitchHunt?`
`10:23.37`	`Industrial`	`xD`
`10:24.21`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Wobin_, witchhunt has a few less options.`
`10:24.30`	`Wobin_`	`hm.`
`10:24.42`	`Wobin_`	`what can SA do?`
`10:25.04`	`[MoonWolf]`	`place and resize the message, stuff like that.`
`10:25.40`	`Industrial`	`[MoonWolf]: you have to know the song`
`10:25.52`	`[MoonWolf]`	`Industrial, I could dream it.`
`10:25.57`	`Wobin_`	`Oh`
`10:25.58`	`Industrial`	`good`
`10:25.59`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`10:26.03`	`Industrial`	`it really owns :p`
`10:26.18`	`Wobin_`	`WitchHunt's moveframe thingie is good enough for me`
`10:27.21`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I need to create something that makes the game magically know what aspect I want to use.`
`10:29.45`	`Industrial`	`http://pix2.hotornot.com/pics/HU/HS/NS/KU/EZOQHEAPEYXQ.jpg`
`10:30.05`	`[MoonWolf]`	`oooh`
`10:30.07`	`[MoonWolf]`	`hot hot hot`
`10:30.15`	`Industrial`	`http://pix2.hotornot.com/pics/HU/HL/GM/HL/NZRYOURHUUVU.JPG`
`10:30.47`	`[MoonWolf]`	`dont have that one here....`
`10:31.05`	`Industrial`	`hah!`
`10:31.06`	`Industrial`	`i win!`
`10:31.09`	`Industrial`	`^__^`
`10:31.29`	`Industrial`	`http://pix2.hotornot.com/pics/HU/HQ/NU/KY/EYHEEYEEMRCB.JPG`
`10:32.53`	`Industrial`	`those are my lovely dutch doublematches >_o`
`10:32.59`	`Industrial`	`(yeah im bored again)`
`10:51.49`	`Industrial`	`ahhhh`
`10:51.52`	`Industrial`	`my daily shot of caff`
`10:56.39`	`ckknight`	`the last one lives in Chicago`
`10:56.50`	`ckknight`	`she posts on craigslist reasonably often`
`10:56.57`	`[MoonWolf]`	`dont you mean hourly ?`
`10:57.00`	`ckknight`	`unless someone stole her picture`
`10:57.10`	`ckknight`	`hourly?`
`10:57.28`	`[MoonWolf]`	`my daily shot of caff <-`
`10:57.41`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`10:57.43`	`Industrial`	`well if you would divide it`
`10:57.50`	`ckknight`	`that stuff will kill you`
`10:58.00`	`Industrial`	`i would drink one cup of coffee every 30 minutes`
`10:58.08`	`Industrial`	`for the whole day`
`10:58.10`	`Industrial`	`(8 hours)`
`10:58.11`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`10:58.29`	`Industrial`	`but im only waking up just now >_>`
`10:58.33`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lol`
`10:58.38`	`[MoonWolf]`	`its almost 1 pm`
`10:58.52`	`Industrial`	`and :D?`
`10:59.06`	`Industrial`	`its monday man`
`10:59.17`	`Industrial`	`(dan ben ik neit te pruimen s'ochtens)`
`10:59.23`	`[MoonWolf]`	`hehe`
`11:02.54`	`Industrial`	`moonwolf, do you know cadacross - the band?`
`11:03.11`	`Industrial`	`it owns`
`11:03.12`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`11:03.15`	`Industrial`	`imo`
`11:03.20`	`[MoonWolf]`	`doesnt ring a bell.`
`11:03.28`	`Industrial`	`and avantasia too \o/`
`11:03.39`	`[MoonWolf]`	`know them`
`11:04.14`	`Industrial`	`its pretty new they dont have a webby yet :p`
`11:07.50`	`Industrial`	`[MoonWolf]: what about korplikaani ?`
`11:07.54`	`Industrial`	`\m/ >_< \m/`
`11:08.01`	`[MoonWolf]`	`only have one song.`
`11:08.11`	`Industrial`	`its alot like finntroll`
`11:08.16`	`Industrial`	`folkish metal`
`11:09.23`	`[MoonWolf]`	`\m/ -_- \m/`
`11:09.25`	`Gngsk`	`zomg`
`11:09.31`	`Gngsk`	`such a good song!`
`11:11.52`	`Industrial`	`lol :D`
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`11:43.05`	`ckknight`	`when I grow up, I want to be a functioning bulemic`
`11:44.03`	`[MoonWolf]`	`isn that the reverse of anorexia ?`
`11:44.30`	`ckknight`	`anorexia is not eating`
`11:44.34`	`ckknight`	`bulemia is throwing up after eating`
`11:44.42`	`[MoonWolf]`	`ah`
`11:44.49`	`ckknight`	`they sometimes go together`
`11:44.56`	`ckknight`	`in that case, anorexia bulemia`
`11:45.27`	`[MoonWolf]`	`hmmm`
`11:45.30`	`[MoonWolf]`	`kk`
`11:45.54`	`Industrial`	`they should mace restaurants for those people`
`11:46.06`	`Industrial`	`'the empty plate'`
`11:46.07`	`Industrial`	`make*`
`11:46.08`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lol`
`11:46.16`	`[MoonWolf]`	`ill have the fried air please.`
`11:46.20`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`11:46.46`	`ckknight`	`anorexia/bulemia is actually more common than you'd think`
`11:47.14`	`Industrial`	`That will be 12.50 please`
`11:47.22`	`[MoonWolf]`	`hehe`
`11:47.32`	`Industrial`	`ckknight: I can't imagine`
`11:48.20`	`Industrial`	`if you think you are fat, stop being a pussy and work it off! food is meant to be eaten, dinner to be enjoyed!`
`11:48.42`	`ckknight`	`men and women think differently, indie`
`11:48.54`	`ckknight`	`typically a man's way to lose weight is to exercise`
`11:49.01`	`ckknight`	`for women, it's to change diet`
`11:49.12`	`ckknight`	`even to the extreme of fasting`
`11:49.20`	`Industrial`	`I know enough hot fitness chicks ;)`
`11:49.41`	`Industrial`	`A good diet goes with it, but you dont eat nothing....`
`11:50.22`	`ckknight`	`about 60% of the girls I know have telltale signs of anorexia/bulemia`
`11:50.27`	`ckknight`	`I've even talked to some about it`
`11:51.05`	`ckknight`	`this is around the 16-20 age range`
`11:51.12`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I dont lose weight, I simply make sure I have enough condition that my weight makes no difference.`
`11:51.44`	`[MoonWolf]`	`feather.`
`11:52.04`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`11:52.12`	`Industrial`	`semi-heavyweight actually >_>`
`11:55.58`	`[MoonWolf]`	`hehe`
`11:56.15`	`[MoonWolf]`	`you couldnt even push me over.`
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`11:57.08`	`Codayus`	`Hmmm`
`11:57.32`	`Codayus`	`WoW is in third place on the weekly PC game sales charts.`
`11:57.40`	`Codayus`	`That's...kind of disturbing, to be honest.`
`11:58.11`	`Codayus`	`(In the US.)`
`11:58.32`	`[MoonWolf]`	`weekly`
`11:58.37`	`[MoonWolf]`	`oh damn, invasion of the newbs.`
`11:58.57`	`[MoonWolf]`	`that or all the banned people are getting new copies`
`11:59.02`	`[MoonWolf]`	`that would be even funnier`
`11:59.10`	`[MoonWolf]`	`people get banned, blizzard makes more money`
`11:59.30`	`[MoonWolf]`	`morning Cairenn`
`11:59.38`	`Cairenn`	`morning [MoonWolf]`
`11:59.39`	`[MoonWolf]`	`how is the kid, if I may be so bold to ask.`
`12:00.00`	`Cairenn`	`good good :)`
`12:00.30`	`Codayus`	`Up from 5th place last week, apparently.`
`12:00.47`	`Codayus`	`Honestly, that's a lot of damn copies considering...`
`12:01.03`	`[MoonWolf]`	`now keep her away from doctors for a while.`
`12:01.28`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I really am condidering that a large part of those people are people that have been banned.`
`12:01.46`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I need to stop doing that, making weird suggestion that turn out to be very well possible or even true.`
`12:02.16`	`Cairenn`	`[MoonWolf]: works for me, trust me!`
`12:02.39`	`Cairenn`	`although if she keeps up with the whole fainting thing ...`
`12:02.48`	`[MoonWolf]`	`..... :O`
`12:02.49`	`Codayus`	`And in other news, there will be 35 different MMOs appearing at E3.`
`12:03.17`	`*** join/#wowace Stylpe_2 (n=Stylpe@210.80-202-248.nextgentel.com)`
`12:03.19`	`Codayus`	`And I thought the wave of FPSs after Doom was bad... oO`
`12:03.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and more other news, 30 will be utter crap, 4 will be very cool and 1 will be innovating but will never make the big public.`
`12:04.03`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and world of warcraft will see a rize in players because of cool announcements about upcomming patches the announcement of the alliance race and more information about the burning crusade.`
`12:05.51`	`Cairenn\|afk`	`see you guys later`
`12:06.03`	`Industrial`	`bai`
`12:26.17`	`[MoonWolf]`	`weird band names ftw`
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`12:30.16`	`Industrial`	`:O`
`12:31.11`	`Neriak`	`heya`
`12:31.18`	`Slayman`	`hey dude`
`12:31.49`	`Neriak`	`losing`
`12:31.53`	`Industrial`	`Neriak: gud :D`
`12:31.57`	`Slayman`	`wanna trade weight?`
`12:32.00`	`Neriak`	`:P`
`12:32.10`	`Neriak`	`I was at 106 2 weegs ago`
`12:32.11`	`Slayman`	`got more i need`
`12:32.25`	`Neriak`	`But I don'`
`12:32.30`	`Slayman`	`pounds or kg ?`
`12:32.35`	`Neriak`	`t exercise`
`12:32.38`	`Neriak`	`kg`
`12:32.39`	`Industrial`	`kg`
`12:32.40`	`Slayman`	`k`
`12:32.49`	`[MoonWolf]`	`This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict! <- I love it when that happens if I check my pages.`
`12:32.49`	`Neriak`	`I just watch at what I'm eating`
`12:32.58`	`Neriak`	`No more sugar (which is important)`
`12:33.01`	`haste`	`[MoonWolf]: <3`
`12:33.02`	`Industrial`	`1 kilogram = 2.20462262 pounds`
`12:33.04`	`[MoonWolf]`	`you go haste!`
`12:33.07`	`Neriak`	`because sugar prevents fat burning`
`12:33.20`	`Industrial`	`Neriak: start kickboxing`
`12:33.22`	`[MoonWolf]`	`but I LIKE suager.`
`12:33.24`	`Industrial`	`best fat burning sport`
`12:33.25`	`Industrial`	`:P`
`12:33.35`	`[MoonWolf]`	`industrial... I tried it. did not like it.`
`12:33.40`	`Industrial`	`[MoonWolf]: :o really?`
`12:33.41`	`Neriak`	`yeah, but when you don't have time for sport you can change your food`
`12:33.46`	`Industrial`	`true`
`12:33.52`	`Industrial`	`[MoonWolf]: :( i love it :D`
`12:33.59`	`Neriak`	`I'm losing 0.2 - 0.3 kg each day`
`12:34.12`	`[MoonWolf]`	`neriak, your starting to sound like someone on atkins.`
`12:34.17`	`Neriak`	`hrhr`
`12:34.18`	`Slayman`	`until u normalize your eating routines`
`12:34.23`	`Neriak`	`no atkins is dangerous ;)`
`12:34.31`	`[MoonWolf]`	`it is ?`
`12:34.33`	`Neriak`	`I have a frined which had like 175 kg`
`12:34.37`	`[MoonWolf]`	`good! die atkins people DIE`
`12:34.46`	`Neriak`	`he's now at 120 by doing the Atkins diet`
`12:35.03`	`Neriak`	`but he has to take some extra vitamins`
`12:35.03`	`[MoonWolf]`	`where is the dangerous part ?`
`12:35.14`	`Slayman`	`mmh Neriak lecker selbst gemachter Milchreis mit Zimt LECKER ...`
`12:35.17`	`[MoonWolf]`	`unless he lost that weight in a month...`
`12:35.21`	`haste`	`This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict!`
`12:35.21`	`haste`	`yay`
`12:35.25`	`Neriak`	`lol snurre`
`12:35.30`	`Neriak`	`aeh Slayman`
`12:35.31`	`Industrial`	`haste: <3`
`12:35.34`	`Neriak`	`damn autocomplete`
`12:35.51`	`Industrial`	`Slayman: :P`
`12:36.00`	`haste`	`It's not correct document structure yet tho'`
`12:36.03`	`Neriak`	`dangerous is all the fat you're feeding your body with`
`12:36.04`	`haste`	`sicne I'm a little lazy :p`
`12:36.13`	`Neriak`	`you could get serious heart issues`
`12:36.34`	`Neriak`	`and it's a bit single-sided food .. so you missing essential vitamins and minerals`
`12:36.45`	`[MoonWolf]`	`eeeuh, I have no idea how atkins works`
`12:36.50`	`Neriak`	`doctor atkins died because of his own diet ;)`
`12:36.52`	`[MoonWolf]`	`it involves fat ?`
`12:37.01`	`Neriak`	`he didn't pay attention to his heart`
`12:37.09`	`Slayman`	`to be honest i never planned to live forever if i die, then it doesn't matter it's not like i care`
`12:37.16`	`Neriak`	`atkins diet= you only eat fat stuff`
`12:37.24`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I'm not afraid of death,`
`12:37.30`	`[MoonWolf]`	`I just like to keep living on.`
`12:37.49`	`[MoonWolf]`	`must get lvl 60.`
`12:37.58`	`Industrial`	`chicks to chase, noobz to pwn...`
`12:38.07`	`Slayman`	`the one who dies early has more time as a dead`
`12:38.12`	`Industrial`	`i dont wanna die :>`
`12:39.08`	`Industrial`	`or be something or will be something, for that matter`
`12:39.32`	`[MoonWolf]`	`dead is dead, and I will only find out if I am wrong about that notion untill after I die.`
`12:39.55`	`[MoonWolf]`	`this is and will forever be my point on death.`
`12:40.02`	`Neriak`	`slayman: the problem is when everything becomes different like putting on your shoes and stuff .. I'm also not afraid to die, but I don't like making my life more harder that it already is ;)`
`12:40.13`	`Neriak`	`that's why I try to care about my weight and health`
`12:41.46`	`Slayman`	`Neriak: u r right of course I'm afraid of living on in a wheelchair or something like that, too but dying i don't care`
`12:42.35`	`haste`	`NOES!`
`12:42.41`	`haste`	`All my irssi windows have moved :(`
`12:45.07`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lol`
`12:45.14`	`haste`	`shuffles`
`12:45.24`	`haste`	`I agree on that one!`
`12:45.34`	`haste`	`but I did get time to clean and go to the store`
`12:45.54`	`[MoonWolf]`	`still, bad isp`
`12:53.22`	`haste`	`hehe`
`12:53.22`	`haste`	`ckknight: If you still want the files I can upload them to another server?`
`12:53.22`	`haste`	`same goes for Mr. Industrial`
`12:54.22`	`[MoonWolf]`	`or I can send you a 6 mb rar`
`12:58.26`	`haste`	`or you could do that :p`
`12:59.36`	`Wobin_`	`What's this stuff?`
`13:01.14`	`Industrial`	`wobblewobblewobblewobblewobble`
`13:01.20`	`Industrial`	`(murlock :P)`
`13:04.26`	`GenNMX\|Thrae`	`Would a Combat regexp addon (ala Recap) that manages its database as strings and can use gsub for non-English clients still be useful without a GUI? I'm too busy to make a GUI for this project.`
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`13:15.41`	`ckknight`	`haste, yea, that'd be cool`
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`13:27.27`	`ckknight`	`the 6 MiB rar would also work`
`13:28.16`	`Wobin_`	`What's this?`
`13:28.25`	`Wobin_`	`I keep getting disconnected before finding out =P`
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`13:46.28`	`netcurse`	`hi ck`
`13:47.57`	`hyperChipmunk`	`did you just call me a hick? >8p`
`13:49.59`	`[MoonWolf]`	`everybody that want that rar, mail me at moonwolf.crn@gmail.com or send me a forum pm.`
`13:50.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`what rar is this?`
`13:50.47`	`[MoonWolf]`	`1to60 very fast horde side.`
`13:50.54`	`[MoonWolf]`	`warlock or hunter.`
`13:51.13`	`[MoonWolf]`	`questing.`
`13:51.16`	`[MoonWolf]`	`not grinding.`
`13:51.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`heh, neat`
`13:51.38`	`hyperChipmunk`	`be interesting to see`
`13:51.59`	`hyperChipmunk`	`toss it on over to hyperactiveChipmunk@gmail.com`
`13:52.01`	`[MoonWolf]`	`you know what to do.`
`13:52.42`	`[MoonWolf]`	`stop being laggy stupid laptop`
`13:53.02`	`stupid_laptop`	`it's not my fault =( you never upgrade me`
`13:53.48`	`[MoonWolf]`	`sending to hyper, your next, ckk`
`13:54.07`	`[MoonWolf]`	`you message came in like a second after I pressed send`
`13:54.52`	`[MoonWolf]`	`sent and sent.`
`13:56.55`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ha funny`
`13:57.01`	`Industrial`	`and tom.wieland@gmail.com`
`13:57.05`	`Industrial`	`(my msn gg :p)`
`13:57.33`	`ckknight`	`I sent you an email, but mine's ckknight@gmail.com anyway`
`13:57.46`	`[MoonWolf]`	`sent`
`13:57.53`	`ckknight`	`shiny`
`13:58.20`	`[MoonWolf]`	`and yours was away 3 mins ago....`
`13:58.34`	`ckknight`	`:-P`
`13:59.18`	`Industrial`	`mememe`
`13:59.19`	`Industrial`	`:D`
`13:59.31`	`hyperChipmunk`	`this is hilarious`
`13:59.51`	`Industrial`	`hahahahahhhahaha`
`13:59.54`	`ckknight`	`?`
`13:59.55`	`Industrial`	`hyperChipmunk: what is?`
`14:09.16`	`hyperChipmunk`	`the 1-60 guide; dude's psychotic`
`14:15.54`	`ckknight`	`psychotic how?`
`14:16.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`obsessive`
`14:16.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I get the impression he levels and deletes characters every few days`
`14:16.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`to practice`
`14:18.05`	`ckknight`	`I wonder how hard it'd be to follow his plan with a different class`
`14:18.17`	`hyperChipmunk`	`not too hard; quests are quests`
`14:18.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but what's the point?`
`14:19.12`	`[MoonWolf]`	`he is mostl likely one of the people that races a char to 60 every time a new server opens.`
`14:19.18`	`ckknight`	`I've never had a char higher than 33`
`14:19.32`	`hyperChipmunk`	`heh`
`14:20.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and you want to experience 34-60 in a frenzied blur of following step-by-step instructions?`
`14:21.27`	`ckknight`	`right`
`14:21.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`one day computer gaming historians will look back upon this as 'the day the RP was taken out of MMORPG'`
`14:21.43`	`ckknight`	`it's been MMOG for some time now`
`14:21.49`	`hyperChipmunk`	`heck, take out the second M too`
`14:22.01`	`ckknight`	`lol`
`14:22.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it's just a massive online game`
`14:22.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`=P`
`14:25.48`	`Industrial`	`yea`
`14:25.51`	`Industrial`	`race to 60`
`14:26.00`	`Industrial`	`and start collecting kills`
`14:26.02`	`Industrial`	`get pvp armor`
`14:26.14`	`Industrial`	`and be the king when you get that rank 14 weapon`
`14:26.18`	`Industrial`	`the end!`
`14:26.20`	`Industrial`	`xD`
`14:26.47`	`hyperChipmunk`	`heh`
`14:27.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`PvP is more difficult to grind`
`14:27.22`	`hyperChipmunk`	`you gotta alter your body chemistry to hit rank 14`
`14:27.54`	`hyperChipmunk`	`cuz there are always people who play in shifts with siblings, etc.`
`14:29.10`	`Industrial`	`you seent eh horde rank 14 2hb weapon?`
`14:29.21`	`Industrial`	`its like a big lollypop`
`14:29.36`	`Industrial`	`xD`
`15:02.04`	`ckknight`	`I want to get a shirt that says "I conquered obesity"`
`15:10.20`	`Tekkub`	`Bump me!`
`15:10.20`	`Tekkub`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=375262`
`15:10.54`	`Tekkub`	`I want a shirt that says "I reject your reality and substitute my own"`
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`15:37.50`	`CIA-13`	`03ckknight * r1615 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFu.lua: Fubar_ClockFu - added color.`
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`15:42.35`	`Tain`	`Hey ckknight how about making it so you can have two short bars side by side on the same row?`
`15:43.17`	`ckknight`	`nah`
`15:43.20`	`ckknight`	`too hard to code`
`15:43.29`	`ckknight`	`you can detach if you want that`
`15:45.05`	`Tain`	`How about a plugin (that anyone could do of course) that is simply a variable width blank spacer so I can place things at different spots entirely? Or alternately, the ability to place things at different spots on the bar arbitrarily. But I figured the spacer would be easier.`
`15:46.38`	`Tain`	`See I figure I should suggest these things first since you have a history of remaking them yourself if it's something you like.`
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`15:49.47`	`ckknight`	`my suggestion:`
`15:49.54`	`ckknight`	`attach one bar, make it half-size`
`15:49.58`	`ckknight`	`detach anoter`
`15:49.59`	`ckknight`	`another*`
`15:50.02`	`ckknight`	`make it half size`
`15:50.06`	`ckknight`	`place it next to the first`
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`16:04.07`	`Tain`	`Is there a way to get rid of the yellow border on the FuBar panel?`
`16:05.48`	`Tain`	`Ah just detached both panels instead.`
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`16:07.12`	`Tain`	`There's an odd texture bug by the way, the texture of the background of the second panel I was using suddenly didn't reach the full length of the panel, was just blank background behind plugins. Happened twice but I didn't realize what happened the first time so I didn't pay attention.`
`16:07.19`	`Tain`	`I'll see if I can make steps to recreate it.`
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`16:09.15`	`ckknight`	`recent version?`
`16:09.39`	`ckknight`	`to get rid of the yellow border, get FuTextures, on SVN. I use the tree one`
`16:10.11`	`Tain`	`FuBar-1.1.1580`
`16:10.46`	`ckknight`	`hrm`
`16:10.57`	`ckknight`	`well, make sure you get the most recent version`
`16:11.10`	`Tem`	`morning bitches`
`16:12.37`	`Tain`	`Tem I'd just like to take this time out to say that I really love Finder Reminder.`
`16:12.52`	`Tem`	`I'm glad you do`
`16:13.00`	`Tem`	`I heart it on my rogue`
`16:13.12`	`Tem`	`since I was perpetually without my tracking skill`
`16:13.19`	`Tain`	`Yep.`
`16:13.32`	`Tem`	`I feel bad using it on my mage though`
`16:13.56`	`Tem`	`she dropped herbalism for tailoring so I could make a robe of the archmage`
`16:14.30`	`Tem`	`and hasn't gotten her herbalism back up to 300 yet`
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`16:14.53`	`Tain`	`You know I really got hooked on Herbalism/Alchemy for every class I played. It's so useful to yourself while levelling.`
`16:15.00`	`Tem`	`no joke`
`16:15.09`	`Tem`	`I'm ok on my rogue without it`
`16:15.19`	`Tem`	`pickpocketing gets me a buttload of potions`
`16:15.30`	`ckknight`	`butt.`
`16:16.01`	`Tain`	`Yeah I just know if I'm starting out and doing Herb/Alch from the beginning, that first day I get to make Trolls Blood potions is a happy one.`
`16:16.39`	`Tem`	`how useful are those for other classes?`
`16:16.46`	`Tem`	`on my mage those are pretty pointless`
`16:17.06`	`Tain`	`I like them for any melee class.`
`16:17.28`	`Tain`	`Just gets you back to 100% between fights when you don't have any need to rest up for that 10-20%`
`16:18.25`	`Tem`	`yeah, mages usually just don't take damage`
`16:18.27`	`Tem`	`if they do they die`
`16:18.36`	`Tain`	`Yeh heh`
`16:18.45`	`Tem`	`I've been leveling my rogue, but he's on a different server so I can't funnel potions to him`
`16:19.49`	`Tain`	`I started on a new server, Ysera. It's great. It's empty. There's like 1 or 2 people in the AH at Ironforge at any time. I love it.`
`16:21.30`	`ckknight`	`what kind of server?`
`16:22.06`	`Elkano`	`Tekkub, on curse'2 page for lern2spell, the link to the wiki hast two https`
`16:23.12`	`Wobin_`	`woo curse2?`
`16:23.15`	`CIA-13`	`03otravi * r1617 10otravi_CastingBar/otravi_CastingBar.lua:`
`16:23.15`	`CIA-13`	`otravi_CastingBar:`
`16:23.16`	`CIA-13`	`- No longer restores the position twice in a row.`
`16:23.16`	`CIA-13`	`- No longer spits out an error when helping someone summon.`
`16:24.03`	`ckknight`	`Wobin_, not yet`
`16:24.18`	`Wobin_`	`bah`
`16:25.27`	`Elkano`	`wobin, simpley typo.. sometimes I type '2' instead of 's'... don't know why :/`
`16:25.45`	`Wobin_`	`oh`
`16:25.50`	`Wobin_`	`Got me all excited =P`
`16:27.20`	`Tain`	`Ysera is PVE.`
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`16:39.42`	`Tain`	`Gah was trying AFTT Extreme but it bugs the hell out of me that it can say anchor TOPLEFT but still put information above the anchor point.`
`16:40.12`	`Tain`	`I'm not anchoring the top of the tooltip if you're putting things above the top of the tooltip.`
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`16:45.39`	`[MoonWolf]`	`ha i have +2 -0 karma`
`16:46.19`	`haste`	`checks`
`16:46.26`	`phyber`	`hmm, I just noticed that QuestFu adds information to the tooltip about mobs and items that are for quests.`
`16:46.31`	`phyber`	`that's a nice touch :)`
`16:46.47`	`haste`	`Karma: +6/-0`
`16:46.48`	`haste`	`hah!`
`16:46.56`	`[MoonWolf]`	`damn you`
`16:47.53`	`kergoth`	`phyber: indeed. thanks to that + uberquest, finally dropped monkey*`
`16:47.57`	`kergoth`	`mornings are evil`
`16:48.01`	`haste`	`hmm`
`16:48.08`	`[MoonWolf]`	`yes they are`
`16:48.13`	`haste`	`I think I managed to do two stupid things yesterday`
`16:48.13`	`hyperChipmunk`	`~mornings`
`16:48.16`	`purl`	`Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/)`
`16:48.16`	`[MoonWolf]`	`i recommend either tea or caffeine`
`16:48.22`	`haste`	`the one thing was overwriting my default .config for the kernel`
`16:48.30`	`haste`	`the other one of overwriting my xorg config`
`16:48.42`	`haste`	`and of course I don't have a backup of the last one`
`16:48.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`wtg`
`16:48.57`	`haste`	`yeh`
`16:48.57`	`kergoth`	`Tain: hm, might have to try out ysera. been looking for a fresh server`
`16:49.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I have like 500 copies of my xorg.conf spread all over the internet and my hard drives`
`16:49.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`if I lose that, I'm so screwed =)`
`16:49.31`	`[MoonWolf]`	`lol`
`16:49.36`	`haste`	`mine starts up with default :p`
`16:50.31`	`phyber`	`if you're using the 2.6 kernel, you can enable the nice feature that puts your config in /proc as config or config.gz`
`16:50.44`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea I <3 that`
`16:50.59`	`haste`	`yeh, I use that feature`
`16:51.08`	`haste`	`but it doesn't help for my xorg config :p`
`16:52.43`	`hyperChipmunk`	`well, if you're using an SGI 24" widescreen, a 17" Sony Trinitron, and a 36" Sony WEGA HDTV, you can use mine`
`16:53.03`	`kergoth`	`i dont bother with that, mostly because i always use the package management system, and the kernel packages always drop the config out in /boot`
`16:53.26`	`Neriak`	`Wobin_: r u there?`
`16:53.30`	`haste`	`nah, I have some LG shit`
`16:53.37`	`Wobin_`	`yeah, what's up?`
`16:53.46`	`Neriak`	`bug in reverseengineering ;)`
`16:53.50`	`Wobin_`	`woo`
`16:53.52`	`Wobin_`	`what'sat?`
`16:53.52`	`Neriak`	`[588] = "[18:50-1325] ...ace\\ReverseEngineering\\ReverseEngineering.lua:31: Bad skill line in ExpandTradeSkillSubClass\`
`16:54.01`	`Wobin_`	`hm`
`16:54.16`	`Neriak`	`It happened when I opened up my first aid`
`16:54.41`	`Wobin_`	`hm, okay`
`16:54.44`	`Neriak`	`maybe because it's using the same crafting frame?`
`16:54.55`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I got something like that yesterday`
`16:55.04`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but I didn't bother to probe deeper; I just clicked Okay =P`
`16:55.17`	`Wobin_`	`no, it should work with all the frames`
`16:55.25`	`Neriak`	`I've done a reloadUi, since then that error doesn't happen anymore .. wicked`
`16:55.43`	`Wobin_`	`I think it's trying to access a line that isn't actually there. I'll see what I can do about some redundancy`
`16:55.50`	`Neriak`	`I switched from engi to first aid .. no issue .. but I guess it will happen again some day :P`
`16:55.52`	`Wobin_`	`I was thinking of 'saving' the filter options`
`16:56.09`	`Wobin_`	`and reapplying them, or selectively applying them... we'll see =)`
`16:56.29`	`Neriak`	`You'll make it, I'm hopefully :P`
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`17:01.08`	`haste`	`I've done something wrong now`
`17:01.12`	`haste`	`I can't set 75 hertz :z`
`17:03.02`	`haste`	`tries the lazy method`
`17:03.19`	`Wobin_`	`I hate poison`
`17:03.26`	`CIA-13`	`03hyperactiveChipmunk * r1618 10BigWigs/MC/BaronGeddon.lua:`
`17:03.26`	`CIA-13`	`BigWigs:`
`17:03.26`	`CIA-13`	`- Fixed typo (missing =) in line 26 of MC/BaronGeddon.lua`
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`17:19.34`	`CIA-13`	`03shyva * r1619 10BigWigs/MC/BaronGeddon.lua: BigWigs: Fixed BaronGeddon.lua again.. Please stop changing the english locals handdol..`
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`17:25.53`	`Industrial`	`.. :p`
`17:26.37`	`haste`	`lazy way = Kernel panick btw`
`17:27.12`	`Wobin_`	`gah Ratbert! =(`
`17:27.22`	`Wobin_`	`Bagboy is trashing random stuff =(`
`17:27.39`	`haste`	`oh, that ain't good`
`17:27.59`	`hyperChipmunk`	`rofl`
`17:28.02`	`haste`	`at least it wasn't any epics :p`
`17:35.11`	`Industrial`	`I made an orc warlock`
`17:35.16`	`Industrial`	`going to follow the 1-60 guide`
`17:35.21`	`Industrial`	`Narghaash`
`17:40.14`	`Wobin_`	`What is the guide?`
`17:40.24`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Ack!`
`17:40.30`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Bad BagBoy!`
`17:40.34`	`Industrial`	`ask haste`
`17:40.35`	`Industrial`	`kek`
`17:40.36`	`hyperChipmunk`	`It is a wholly remarkable book...`
`17:40.36`	`Industrial`	`:p`
`17:40.53`	`Wobin_`	`What's the command to actually get bagboy reporting to the chatframe?`
`17:41.08`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Hang on`
`17:42.44`	`Ratbert_CP`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:42.48`	`Ratbert_CP`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:42.59`	`Wobin_`	`hm, specialeventsembed has an embedded compost and metrognome, but so does Bagboy as well, you probably don't need the highest level set if SEE handles it`
`17:43.10`	`Ratbert_CP`	`s/trash/sell\|trash\|bank/`
`17:43.26`	`Wobin_`	`Ratbert_CP: There's nothing that reports saying "Now trashing X"?`
`17:43.33`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Not at the moment`
`17:43.41`	`Ratbert_CP`	`But I can add it in real quick...`
`17:44.03`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Now trashing [Dragonstalker's Chestplate]`
`17:44.07`	`hyperChipmunk`	`nuuuuuuuuuuuuuu`
`17:44.22`	`Ratbert_CP`	`It shouldn't trash or sell any quest items.`
`17:44.38`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Let me add in a "dummy" command...`
`17:44.52`	`Ratbert_CP`	`It'll report what it would do.`
`17:45.30`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Oh... Hmmm... Probably should verify that I'm trashing/selling what I think I am. If you've got something rearranging your inventory while BagBoy is going... :P`
`17:46.42`	`Wobin_`	`not that I've noticed....`
`17:47.54`	`Wobin_`	`You could have it check the quality of the item...`
`17:51.16`	`Ratbert_CP`	`That's in the next iteration of major functionality.`
`17:52.41`	`Ratbert_CP`	`ckknight: You suck... :) The latest FuBar seems to have borked my FuBarTooltip...`
`18:01.33`	`Tem`	`FuBarTooltip shouldn't have changed?`
`18:01.43`	`Tem`	`that api is frozen isn't it?`
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`18:02.17`	`kergoth`	`isnt he still in the 1.1 series?`
`18:02.27`	`kergoth`	`or did he hit 1.2?`
`18:02.43`	`hyperChipmunk`	`'frozen' is such a primitive term when it comes to ckknight`
`18:03.05`	`hyperChipmunk`	`'highly viscous' is more appropriate`
`18:04.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`~pat Ratbert_CP`
`18:04.08`	`purl`	`ACTION pats Ratbert_CP and says "Nicely Done!"`
`18:07.46`	`Wobin_`	`meh, can someone send me that guide?`
`18:14.03`	`haste`	`~emulate gir`
`18:14.05`	`purl`	`aww, my bees...`
`18:14.12`	`haste`	`Wobin_: still want it?`
`18:14.22`	`Wobin_`	`yep`
`18:14.53`	`haste`	`I'll start to upload it then`
`18:15.13`	`Wobin_`	`wooty`
`18:17.57`	`haste`	`http://www.fuxsake.net/1-60/`
`18:18.16`	`haste`	`btw, I'm starting to hate blizzard`
`18:18.23`	`haste`	`my server sucks so retarded hard`
`18:18.35`	`Wobin_`	`I can't locate it =(`
`18:18.55`	`haste`	`server or folder?`
`18:19.00`	`Wobin_`	`server`
`18:19.30`	`Wobin_`	`Do you have an ip I can use instead, perhaps?`
`18:19.35`	`haste`	`hmm, I got an idea tho'`
`18:20.04`	`haste`	`http://72.21.32.2/~fuxsake/1-60/`
`18:20.23`	`haste`	`does that one work?`
`18:20.27`	`Wobin_`	`woot`
`18:20.28`	`Wobin_`	`yeah`
`18:20.45`	`haste`	`good that they are still using my setup :p`
`18:21.53`	`phyber`	`<3 BulkMail`
`18:24.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`!`
`18:24.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`<3 phyber`
`18:25.27`	`phyber`	`just used it to send a ton of Wool Cloth to an alt. it's great :)`
`18:25.34`	`hyperChipmunk`	`>8D`
`18:27.37`	`Thiana`	`I love it too :) Only problem is sometimes it doesnt sucessfully send one item, and that throws off the entire process. Have to reload to get it to send again.`
`18:27.46`	`Thiana`	`I think it's a throttling issue on the server side.`
`18:28.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`how come nobody tells me these things? =P`
`18:28.08`	`phyber`	`one of my items didn't send, but the rest went through fine.`
`18:28.15`	`Thiana`	`I just started using it two hours ago ;-P`
`18:28.16`	`phyber`	`I just resent the item.`
`18:28.28`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I'm changing the throttling anyway =)`
`18:28.51`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ofc, I did that two days ago, and now everything's in a state of disrepair and I can't get it working at all`
`18:29.44`	`Thiana`	`lol`
`18:30.01`	`Thiana`	`This is why svn exists, make frequent commits ;-P`
`18:30.25`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh, I can go back`
`18:30.33`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but I'm reworking lots of stuff`
`18:30.45`	`hyperChipmunk`	`it'll be better for it`
`18:31.51`	`Thiana`	`k :)`
`18:32.08`	`kergoth`	`so.. rework it in source control. you'll regret doing otherwise the day your HD crashes :P`
`18:32.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`heh`
`18:33.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I'm not to a skill level yet where it wouldn't be better to rewrite it from scratch; I'm still learning significant new things every day`
`18:35.49`	`kergoth`	`even experts can end up rewriting`
`18:35.59`	`kergoth`	`as they come up with new, better designs`
`18:36.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`just saying, I won't be missing much`
`18:39.18`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Damn! Damndamndamn...`
`18:41.58`	`CIA-13`	`03otravi * r1620 10oRA/oRA_Core.lua: oRA_Core - Fixed the <1.077 version issue.`
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`19:05.29`	`hyperChipmunk`	`thx spam`
`19:05.46`	`hyperChipmunk`	`dueling irc clients?`
`19:06.11`	`haste`	`Looks like he is loosing tho'`
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`19:20.53`	`ckknight`	`well, I beat Super Mario World in 2 and a half hours`
`19:20.55`	`ckknight`	`fun game`
`19:25.43`	`Ratbert_CP`	`ckknight: Did you monkey with FuBarTooltip this last go-round?`
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`19:25.59`	`Ratbert_CP`	`BagBoy lost its tooltip...`
`19:26.13`	`Ratbert_CP`	`(12:27:33) Ratbert_CP: ckknight: Did you monkey with FuBarTooltip this last go-round?`
`19:26.13`	`Ratbert_CP`	`(12:27:48) Ratbert_CP: BagBoy lost its tooltip...`
`19:32.33`	`Wobin_`	`hey ckknight: do you know of a way to move the order of the toolbars in Opera? Like I want the tab bar lower than the action bar`
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`20:06.53`	`CIA-13`	`03wobin * r1622 10MrPlow/ (4 files): MrPlow - Added in bag ignoring`
`20:09.40`	`ckknight_`	`Wobin_, my tab bar is lower than the action bar deal`
`20:09.56`	`Wobin_`	`hm`
`20:10.01`	`Wobin_`	`I wonder how to switch them`
`20:10.03`	`ckknight_`	`but I did something...`
`20:10.15`	`ckknight_`	`look up firefox theme for opera`
`20:10.18`	`ckknight_`	`or somethng`
`20:10.56`	`netcurse`	`Anyone here going to e3 with a press badge ?`
`20:11.22`	`CIA-13`	`03wobin * r1623 10MrPlow/ (Localization_deDE.lua Localization_frFR.lua): MrPlow: Fixed some missing localisations`
`20:12.00`	`Shyva`	`I wish I could netcurse =)`
`20:12.12`	`ckknight_`	`yea, that'd be pimp`
`20:12.24`	`netcurse`	`i was invited last year but not this time :s`
`20:12.50`	`Shyva`	`:-o`
`20:35.04`	`Wobin_`	`bah`
`20:35.08`	`Wobin_`	`I just can't get it moved`
`20:39.37`	`Industrial`	`anyone else doing that 1-60 guide?`
`20:39.43`	`Industrial`	`im at point 28`
`20:39.53`	`Wobin_`	`oh that's so wrong!`
`20:39.58`	`Industrial`	`1.5 hours play time`
`20:39.59`	`Industrial`	`lv 7`
`20:40.05`	`kergoth`	`what guide?`
`20:40.12`	`Wobin_`	`The only way to 'move' the address bar is to move all the elements to another bar above`
`20:40.21`	`Wobin_`	`How unintuitive is that?!`
`20:40.53`	`Industrial`	`kergoth: errr sec`
`20:40.58`	`Industrial`	`kergoth: whats your mail?`
`20:41.04`	`kergoth`	`kergoth@handhelds.org`
`20:41.08`	`Industrial`	`oki`
`20:43.33`	`Industrial`	`got mail :)`
`20:48.54`	`pagefault`	`GM service has gotten a lot better`
`20:48.58`	`pagefault`	`maybe only an hour delay now`
`20:51.59`	`kergoth`	`god i wish we had lua 5.1 in wow`
`20:52.10`	`hyperChipmunk`	`write it in`
`20:52.26`	`Industrial`	`lol ;P`
`20:52.35`	`Industrial`	`implement lua 5.1 in lua 5.0`
`20:52.36`	`Industrial`	`\o/`
`20:52.37`	`hyperChipmunk`	`no reason you can't write lua in lua`
`20:52.42`	`Industrial`	`hah`
`20:52.43`	`kergoth`	`i keep forgetting to write up a proposal`
`20:52.49`	`kergoth`	`hyperChipmunk: pretty sure someone already has`
`20:53.00`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and when they add it, we'll just delete our Lua51 addon directory and be gtg`
`20:54.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`like, even I added the select command as a global in BulkMail cuz it was lame not to have it`
`20:57.17`	`hyperChipmunk`	`doing local _,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,foo = GetItemInfo(id) is retarded`
`20:58.44`	`Wobin_`	`yus`
`20:59.08`	`Wobin_`	`well, I'd be happier with it if there was actual variable ignoring`
`20:59.21`	`Wobin_`	`instead of assigning it to _ and overwriting it`
`20:59.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh, with the underscore?`
`20:59.26`	`Wobin_`	`yeah`
`20:59.38`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, that needs to be a /dev/null =P`
`21:00.53`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but being able to do local foo = select(9, GetItemInfo(id)) is worth the one line of code it takes to implement select()`
`21:01.32`	`Wobin_`	`As long as you're not creating tables and soforth =P`
`21:02.01`	`Wobin_`	`and aside from the functioncall overhead`
`21:03.11`	`hyperChipmunk`	`who cares; the convenience outweighs it`
`21:03.19`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I can sed when I'm finished`
`21:03.42`	`Wobin_`	`Night =)`
`21:04.01`	`hyperChipmunk`	`later`
`21:04.46`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`which do you guys think $[Cloak of Fire] or just $Cloak of Fire] to do a type link?`
`21:05.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`a type link?`
`21:05.27`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`ya for typing a link`
`21:05.46`	`hyperChipmunk`	`oh, Fizz Linkerator just uses [Cloak of Fire] and I've never run into conflict`
`21:06.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I've been using it for a few months`
`21:06.12`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`ya well my users keep telling me that there are conflicts`
`21:06.20`	`hyperChipmunk`	`kick 'em in the balls`
`21:06.24`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`lol`
`21:06.38`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`I think $[xxx] is the way I'm going to go.`
`21:06.58`	`hyperChipmunk`	`seriously, how many times do you type [Cloak of Fire] with an actual item inside and not want it turned into a link?`
`21:07.36`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`well problem was addons putting out text and there was another instance as well`
`21:09.02`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but the majority don't complain; you're gonna incur their wrath if you make them type more`
`21:09.16`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I say use \[Cloak of Fire] to escape it, or something =P`
`21:09.36`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`lol, I need to offer two different modes I guess`
`21:09.39`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`Safe and Standard`
`21:10.23`	`hyperChipmunk`	`btw, I'm whoring some of your linkview gui code/concepts for BulkMail; hope you don't mind`
`21:11.24`	`hyperChipmunk`	`though I've already managed to add enough cruft to it to make it suck, which is ironic because I need LESS features than it has`
`21:21.51`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`lol`
`21:22.10`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`that doesn't make munch sense`
`21:22.13`	`hyperChipmunk`	`>8P`
`21:22.40`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I don't need the search/sort, but my links are coming from containers`
`21:23.06`	`hyperChipmunk`	`my data is the containers, not the item link itself`
`21:23.41`	`hyperChipmunk`	`and by the time I get stuff all sorted out from GetContainerItemLink(), it's messy =P`
`21:23.55`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`how so?`
`21:24.19`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, it'll probably get simple`
`21:24.38`	`hyperChipmunk`	`but right now it's a mess =)`
`21:24.57`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`hehe`
`21:25.00`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`been there done that`
`21:25.08`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`I've recoded KC_Items 3 or 4 times now`
`21:25.30`	`hyperChipmunk`	`Get the link, string.find the item id, use the item ID to GetItemInfo, use the name and quality from that, GetItemQualityColor() from that...etc, etc.`
`21:26.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`hm, see? now I'm noticing i can close the gap and just separate the link I get from the start into id and color/name`
`21:26.46`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I got to the above in a roundabout way, and now I can remove the intermediates =)`
`21:26.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`already lookin' better!`
`21:26.57`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`yep`
`21:27.05`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`I have functions in KC_Items.common that handle most of that`
`21:27.22`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea, I noticed`
`21:27.39`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I didn't want to rip your code off that much though =P`
`21:27.48`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`mine would look like local data = self.common:GetItemInfo(self.common:GetID(GetContainerItemLink(1,1)))`
`21:28.09`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`and then I could index data for the info`
`21:28.18`	`hyperChipmunk`	`yea that's nifty; I saw that`
`21:28.34`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`I'm probably going to turn KC_Common into an embedable library once AceLibrary gets finalized`
`21:28.43`	`hyperChipmunk`	`<3`
`21:28.53`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`hey cair`
`21:29.19`	`Cairenn`	`hey`
`21:29.23`	`Cairenn`	`Kaelten\|AFK:`
`21:29.32`	`Cairenn`	`still not saving bank data across sessions`
`21:30.25`	`Cairenn`	`Kaelten\|AFK: log a character in, hit the bank, log out, log back in "no bank data"`
`21:31.36`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`hmm`
`21:32.40`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`its saving it on mine`
`21:33.33`	`Cairenn`	`well then it (you) just hate me, but that's fine so long as I understand that's what the problem is :p`
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`21:34.35`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`lol`
`21:34.47`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`have you tried deleting and doing a fresh install?`
`21:34.52`	`Cairenn`	`><`
`21:35.02`	`Cairenn`	`no, I'm too dumb to try something like that`
`21:35.15`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`well if you could try that first before you waste my precious time`
`21:35.30`	`Cairenn`	`Kaelten\|AFK, darling ... fu`
`21:35.45`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`would have been happy too but I was taken`
`21:35.49`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`:)`
`21:36.03`	`Cairenn`	`yeah yeah`
`21:36.47`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`hmm`
`21:36.49`	`Industrial`	`:>`
`21:36.55`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`I'm trying to figure out why it would be doing that`
`21:37.00`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`considering it seems to save mine just fine.`
`21:37.10`	`hyperChipmunk`	`ooh, there's Cairenn h9 going on? can i get involved?`
`21:37.35`	`hyperChipmunk`	`she's funny when you're mean to her`
`21:37.43`	`hyperChipmunk`	`<3`
`21:37.48`	`CIA-13`	`03icetrain * r1624 10oRA_MainTankFrames/oRA_MainTankFrames.lua: oRA_MainTankFrames: Added a unique name to every button that is created, this should hopefully solve the problems with TipBuddy`
`21:38.28`	`GenNMX\|Thrae`	`Are we talking about Kaelten x Cairenn again?`
`21:38.44`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`GenNMX\|Thrae, hmm?`
`21:39.32`	`GenNMX\|Thrae`	`Heh, nevermind.`
`21:39.43`	`hyperChipmunk`	`I need some food to get the energy to walk there and get food`
`21:39.52`	`hyperChipmunk`	`WB kael`
`21:40.10`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`21:40.11`	`Kaelten`	`thanks`
`21:40.16`	`hyperChipmunk`	`>8D`
`21:40.26`	`hyperChipmunk`	`dude, we missed you`
`21:41.51`	`Kaelten`	`cair can you think of anything specific that you do before it disapears?`
`21:42.01`	`Cairenn`	`log out`
`21:42.12`	`Cairenn`	`switch characters`
`21:42.14`	`Cairenn`	`log back in`
`21:42.41`	`cladhaire`	`<3 Cairenn`
`21:42.55`	`Cairenn`	`log that one out`
`21:42.59`	`Cairenn`	`log previous one back in`
`21:43.01`	`Cairenn`	`no data`
`21:43.04`	`Cairenn`	`log out`
`21:43.04`	`Kaelten`	`...`
`21:43.08`	`Kaelten`	`I just tried that though`
`21:43.10`	`Cairenn`	`log in second one`
`21:43.11`	`Cairenn`	`no data`
`21:44.33`	`Kaelten`	`clad, why is it doing this?`
`21:45.16`	`Cairenn`	`you already answered that`
`21:45.20`	`cladhaire`	`Why is what doing what?`
`21:45.21`	`Cairenn`	`it's because it (you) hate me`
`21:45.34`	`Kaelten`	`kcbank isn't retaining data for Cairenn`
`21:45.38`	`cladhaire`	`cry`
`21:45.38`	`Kaelten`	`but it works fine for me`
`21:45.44`	`cladhaire`	`get the trojan code out of there =(`
`21:45.50`	`Kaelten`	`lol`
`21:45.59`	`Kaelten`	`already tried that`
`21:46.04`	`Kaelten`	`now what could be doing it`
`21:49.02`	`kergoth`	`cladhaire: fix the conditional in AceLibrary.lua to check genv[ACELIBRARY_MAJOR] and genv[ACELIBRARY_MAJOR]:NewVersion rather than assuming its AceLibrary`
`21:49.04`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`21:49.14`	`cladhaire`	`lol`
`21:49.44`	`cladhaire`	`well, in AceLibrary's case it is.`
`21:49.47`	`cladhaire`	`but fine. =(`
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`21:51.37`	`kergoth`	`yeah, but its inconsistent. LibActivate uses major and that doesnt. pick one and stick with it :)`
`21:51.55`	`cladhaire`	`check rev 12`
`21:52.13`	`kergoth`	`looks good. well, as good as it can look`
`21:52.15`	`kergoth`	`hehe`
`21:52.28`	`kergoth`	`also, theres another bug`
`21:52.37`	`cladhaire`	`probably`
`21:52.39`	`kergoth`	`you're calling AceLibrary:Register, not previous:Register`
`21:52.46`	`kergoth`	`which means the versions table never gets moved from previous to current`
`21:52.57`	`kergoth`	`since oldInstance is always nil`
`21:53.14`	`kergoth`	`you have to register with the old version, then in libactivate propogate from old to new, afaict`
`21:53.25`	`cladhaire`	`i know that.. i just messed it up =)`
`21:53.29`	`kergoth`	`:)`
`21:53.40`	`Kaelten`	`I'll be back later guys`
`21:53.59`	`kergoth`	`other than that, looking good.`
`21:54.22`	`netcurse`	`me cross fingers`
`21:54.44`	`cladhaire`	`fixed in 13`
`21:55.02`	`cladhaire`	`11PM EST? i'm excited =0`
`21:55.08`	`hyperChipmunk`	`local itemColorText = string.sub(link, 1, 10) .. select(3, string.sub(string.find(link, "(%b[])), 2, -2))`
`21:55.12`	`hyperChipmunk`	`wru regex`
`21:58.20`	`CIA-13`	`03neriak * r1625 10BigWigs/ (9 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: updated MC and BWL for german localizations, still some missing`
`22:10.27`	`Cairenn`	`and since I'm busy being hated by KCI, you ever plan on writing out the list of slash commands and what they do, Kaelten\|afk?`
`22:26.00`	`Ratbert_CP`	`ckknight_: You suxxor!`
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`23:02.44`	`CIA-13`	`03handdol * r1626 10BigWigs/MC/BaronGeddon.lua:`
`23:02.44`	`CIA-13`	`BigWigs`
`23:02.44`	`CIA-13`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:02.48`	`Cairenn`	`Kaelten\|afk: I've determined that it (you) really do hate me ... damn thing is working now`
`23:04.48`	`CIA-13`	`03handdol * r1627 10BigWigs/BWL/Vaelastrasz.lua:`
`23:04.48`	`CIA-13`	`BigWigs`
`23:04.49`	`CIA-13`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`23:37.02`	`ckknight_`	`Ratbert_CP, is there a problem?`
`23:37.09`	`Ratbert_CP`	`:)`
`23:37.17`	`Ratbert_CP`	`FuBar Tooltips stopped working for me...`
`23:37.23`	`ckknight`	`damn`
`23:37.35`	`ckknight`	`okay, what plugins?`
`23:39.09`	`Ratbert_CP`	`just mine. Other tooltips work.`
`23:39.12`	`Ratbert_CP`	`BagBoy.`
`23:39.28`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Maybe a crash course in v.102 tooltips is in order?`
`23:40.39`	`ckknight`	`nah, I wanna get 1.0 compatiblity straight`
`23:40.48`	`ckknight`	`but feel free to read up on em, 1.2 is practically frozen`
`23:42.08`	`Ratbert_CP`	`The UpdateText() is working fine, as is the menu. But the tooltip doesn't display (neither does the tooltip for KombatStats)`
`23:42.36`	`netcurse`	`http://www.curse-gaming.com/`
`23:42.46`	`netcurse`	`fake hope haha :>`
`23:43.32`	`CIA-13`	`03handdol * r1628 10BigWigs/MC/BaronGeddon.lua:`
`23:43.33`	`CIA-13`	`BigWigs`
`23:43.33`	`CIA-13`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:45.51`	`ckknight`	`Bagboy's tooltip works for me`
`23:47.04`	`cladhaire`	`netcurse: You need to move to freenode so I dont have to split servers`
`23:47.11`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`23:47.54`	`ckknight`	`so I don't know how to fix the problem, Ratbert, cause I'm not having it`
`23:48.00`	`ckknight`	`can you get FuBar SVN?`
`23:48.10`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Hrmmm....`
`23:48.19`	`netcurse`	`cladhaire we have 350 ppl in primetime`
`23:48.19`	`Ratbert_CP`	`yeah. But I need to leave Real Soon...`
`23:48.25`	`cladhaire`	`=)`
`23:48.29`	`netcurse`	`and quakenet is much better than any irc servers :p`
`23:48.42`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Maybe I broke something while fiddling with BagBoy...`
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`23:48.57`	`Ratbert_CP`	`What's the compatibility code for your BagBoy?`
`23:49.06`	`ckknight`	`compatibility code?`
`23:49.55`	`Tekkub`	`ratbert did you fix your commit notes habit yet?`
`23:52.18`	`Cairenn`	`later all`
`23:52.26`	`*** part/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`23:54.24`	`Ratbert_CP`	`ckknight: FuBar version Tekkub: Define "fix"... mechanic? vet?`
`23:54.46`	`Tekkub`	`"<addonname> - <Commit notes>"`
`23:55.08`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Yeah... I was fidgeting with svn:externals and such...`
`23:55.15`	`Tekkub`	`by now like 5 people should have bitched you out, I know me and I think wob have`
`23:56.04`	`ckknight`	`Ratbert_CP, I'm using FuBar 1.1.1612`
`23:57.14`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Look at BagBoyFu.lua, and tell me what the fuCompatible value is...`
`23:57.28`	`ckknight`	`"0.9.9"`
`23:58.56`	`Ratbert_CP`	`Hrmmm... That didn''t do it.`

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