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00:00.21hasteI'll see if I can get it done fast or not
00:00.39hastecurrently planing out my evil scheme of dropping AUF dep in my unit frames
00:01.03hasteand then clean up the casting bar
00:01.16kergothcasting bar eh, i should check it out
00:01.27kergoththough i'm currently using the one dhud has included
00:01.39kergothused to use eCastingBar though, cause it was perty
00:01.57hasteIt looks basicly the same as eCastingBar
00:02.05kergothnice
00:05.08Neriakhaste: I just installed your castingbar .. it's looking sweet :) however I found a bug
00:05.18hasteNeriak: Interesting :D
00:05.40Neriakhaste: when you turn on the border and then want to turn it off again it keeps showing until a reloadUI
00:06.04Neriakeither it's a bug or a technical problem in game ;)
00:07.16hasteIt's a bug
00:07.36NeriakI'm sorry ^^
00:07.55id`Zing
00:08.02id`i have 400 linen cloth in the AH
00:08.07Neriakbut anyway it's the best looking casting bar so far
00:08.23Neriak400 ? sick!
00:08.44id`so thats 20*45s == 900s == 9g
00:09.00NeriakI've got over 700 dreamdust in AH :P
00:09.10id`*cry*
00:09.19id`yea but im lv 11
00:09.20id`:S
00:09.24Neriakhehe
00:09.31id`o well
00:09.33id`nn ^^
00:09.46Neriaknn
00:15.04CIA-1303otravi * r1187 10otravi_CastingBar/otravi_CastingBar.lua: otravi_CastingBar - Fixed an issue regarding the border function.
00:15.17hasteNeriak: should be fixed now :)
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00:16.25phyber_<3 BT maintenance.
00:17.31hasteBT :o ?
00:17.41phyber_british telecom
00:18.15phyber_they're screwing about with the centrals.
00:18.24phyber_wish i could get cable again :(
00:21.44ag`Neriak, I guess it should be an error in an addon that loads before Fubar
00:26.04Neriakckknight: shame on you ... hardcoded english strings in FuBar!
00:26.05NeriakD:\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\FuBar>grep -S "aligned" *.lua
00:26.05Neriak.\FuBar.lua:                                    'text', "Left-aligned",
00:26.05Neriak.\FuBar.lua:                                    'text', "Center-aligned",
00:26.05Neriak.\FuBar.lua:                                    'text', "Right-aligned",
00:26.44Neriakwant me to commit the german FuBar localization to the SVN? fixed your -- CHECK's
00:27.19Neriakhaste: thanks, I'll d/l it :)
00:29.49Neriakhaste: yup it's fixed. even works while casting :)
00:30.46hasteyeh, I overwrite the old setting by applying a new backdrop
00:31.01phyberthink I'll try and make the bars in PR/PRT use the same texture as oCB.  will look nice with everything matching :)
00:31.06Neriakheh :)
00:31.29hastephyber: I did that once on CTRA
00:31.58phybercool
00:32.09NeriakI've first seen this texure in LucenFrames
00:32.24NeriakAceLucenFrames I think.
00:32.33hasteI used it on my old old old Discord Unit Frame
00:32.58hastethen I dropped it for the AceBarFrames
00:32.59ckknightmy bad, Ne
00:33.01ckknightNeriak, *
00:33.03ckknightwill fix
00:33.06Neriak:)
00:33.09hastebut I couldn't handle the looks of it... so I changed it :p
00:33.13ckknightyea, commit to svn, it's cool
00:33.19Neriakkk
00:34.48CIA-1303neriak * r1188 10FuBar/FuBarLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar: fixed some german localization strings
00:34.53Neriakdone
00:36.58Neriakckknight: Left-Aligned = Linksb\195\188ndig, Center-Aligned = Mittig, Right-Aligned = Rechtsb\195\188ndig
00:37.12ckknightthere are 2 others as well
00:37.18Neriakwhich one?
00:37.21ckknightPanel and Tooltip
00:37.26NeriakPanel and tooltip?
00:37.34ckknightseparate
00:37.35NeriakLeiste + Tooltip
00:37.38ckknightokay
00:40.43NeriakThe other guy did a good job on german localization as well. Really nice.
00:41.41CIA-1303ckknight * r1189 10FuBar/ (4 files): FuBar - localized a few errant strings.
00:41.51NeriakOh, there must be a bug in the FuBar_LocationFU localization
00:41.58ckknightwhat's that?
00:42.00NeriakI don't get the german strings
00:42.06Neriakseeing english instead
00:42.17Neriakmaybe a toc issue or something like that
00:43.09Neriakyep you're not loading the deDE localization
00:43.20CIA-1303ckknight * r1190 10FuBar_LocationFu/FuBar_LocationFu.toc: FuBar_LocationFu - fixed localization
00:43.36phyberPerfectRaid: zomg stegagaganogogoraphy and obfubfussdcation.  I totally hidz code in my file!
00:43.39phyber:o
00:43.43ckknight?
00:43.55phyberreading back through the commit log
00:44.55ckknightlol
00:45.00Neriaklol cladhaire, isn't it ?
00:45.03phyberyeah
00:45.22NeriakThis one made me laugh for some time hehe
01:18.08cladhairespeak of the devil =)
01:18.13cladhaireCairenn says hello to everyone =)
01:19.04hasteI made a otravi_CastingBar topic!
01:19.08hastefeel my motivation!
01:19.11ckknighttell her hi back
01:19.54ckknighttell her I had to wait a whole hour before someone approved my mod
01:19.59ckknightand that I miss her
01:20.06cladhairehahaha
01:20.07cladhairei will
01:21.09ckknightand now to find a way to hack WoWI so I can automatically upload...
01:28.01hasteckknight: keywords is <3
01:28.06ckknightyes
01:31.52CIA-1303cladhaire * r1191 10MiniBlizzRaid/MiniBlizzRaid.xml: MiniBlizzRaid: Fixed the issue where you couldn't right-click to promote/demote/etc.
01:40.10Neriaknn, too tored now ;)
01:40.14Neriaktired
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02:13.37ag`haste
02:13.42ag`did you make a castbar? :S
02:14.18ag`oh, nm
02:15.47haste:o
02:23.37ag`checking the forums rock
02:41.27Tems
03:02.14ckknightwoot, I think I figured out automatic uploading
03:03.10Temoh?
03:03.14cladhaire?
03:03.50ckknightyea
03:03.52Temckknight: what language?
03:03.54ckknightC#
03:04.03ckknightthe .NET libs are just too handy
03:04.12TemI don't recall, does C# play nice across platforms?
03:04.17ckknightyea
03:04.20ckknightfor what I'm doing
03:04.28TainNot natively.
03:04.28ckknightnot graphical stuff
03:04.32ckknightyes, natively
03:04.46ckknightmine is all console-based, so it's all good
03:04.54Temthen, maybe you should consider porting it to java for a gui?
03:04.57ckknightno
03:05.05Temwhy?
03:05.07ckknightif I wanted to have a GUI, I'd have to do a GTK# on Windows and SWF on Windows
03:05.16ckknightwhich is reasonable
03:05.20ckknighterr
03:05.22ckknightGTK# on Linux
03:05.30Temand Mac?
03:05.31ckknightthough GTK# also runs on Windows
03:05.33ckknightand Mac
03:05.41ckknightand SWF now does work on Linux
03:05.42Temso... use GTK#?
03:05.51ckknightreally, I could use either
03:05.55ckknightGTK# is better for Linux
03:06.00ckknightSWF is better for Windows
03:06.08ckknightI'm likely to keep it console for a while
03:06.13Temboo
03:06.19ckknightwhat?
03:06.28Temyou need a gui so it can prompt you for changelog type stuff
03:06.40ckknightsays you
03:06.44ckknightwhy not fetch from SVN?
03:06.49ckknightthat's what I do now
03:07.03ckknightmy changelogs are all generated
03:07.13Temgrab all the commit messages since the last tag?
03:07.20ckknightright
03:07.50ckknightmy plan is to get it working for my mods specifically, then put more general use things into it, like a GUI and such
03:07.58ckknightbut I want it to upload to all 4 sites
03:08.06Tem4?
03:08.14TemI only count 3
03:08.22TainThere can be only one.
03:08.23ckknightI dunno
03:08.27ckknightthere's WoWI
03:08.28ckknightcurse
03:08.32ckknightui.wow
03:08.38ckknightguess that's 3
03:08.39ckknightwhatever
03:08.42ckknightare there others?
03:08.43TainIt's the quickening!
03:08.56Temthere are others, but... screw them
03:09.07Temwowguru will *never* get one of my addons
03:09.07ckknightif I can automatically upload, I have no problem supporting more than one site
03:09.20ckknightme either, cause zeeg is a fucktard
03:09.29Temand.. uh.. the others are new
03:09.35Temand their presence annoys me
03:09.39Temso screw them as well
03:09.43ckknightright
03:10.05Temwould also be nice if you could chose which sites if you wanted to exclude one
03:10.10ckknightwriting the code was actually easier than I previously thought
03:10.19ckknightI just didn't understand how cookies were handled before
03:10.23ckknightbut .NET does it _so_ nicely
03:10.31Temthat's rare...
03:10.47ckknightyou anti-.NET?
03:10.51TainActually .NET makes Windows programming very easy.
03:11.00ckknightany programming, really
03:11.04ckknightwhy?
03:11.07Temstupid people
03:11.11ckknight?
03:11.22Temthere are some things that just shouldn't be that easy
03:11.30Temwriting a windows app is one of them
03:11.33ckknightthat's a horrible argument, Tem
03:11.41Temperhaps
03:11.44TainWindows programming unless you know specifically things you're doing are supported under Mono or dotGNU and have people to compile them on those platforms for you.
03:11.48Tembut I'm an elitist pric
03:11.58Temand I don't want stupid people writing programs
03:12.04ckknightTain, typically it's compile once run everywhere
03:12.04TainNo, VB made writing an app easy.  .NET makes writing an app easy, and powerful.
03:12.14ckknightyou can compile on .NET, run in Mono fine
03:12.19ckknightsame with the other way around
03:12.37Temoh yes, VB can go back to the pit of hell that spawned it
03:12.37ckknightif you don't have a GUI, you won't have issues
03:12.42ckknightif you do, you gotta debug
03:12.53ckknightTem, it's already unsupported
03:12.55TainYou're compiling binaries on Windows and running them on Mac and Unix?
03:13.00ckknightyea
03:13.33ckknightI've written many a good webapp for both IIS and Apache/mod_mono
03:13.44ckknightcompile on one, run on the other
03:13.47ckknightall works good
03:15.35ckknightmy main concern is to support Windows developers, honestly, anyway
03:15.51ckknightLinux will be a side thought, because there's so few
03:16.10TainExcept oh.. half the Ace community.
03:16.16ckknightyea
03:16.17Temoh, better piss on the Mac people though
03:16.18ckknightI know
03:16.35TemAnduinLothar's one of those funny mac people
03:16.36ckknightwell, I don't care about Macs anyway
03:16.45ckknightI will support Linux
03:16.50ckknightjust not as the main goal
03:17.02Temif you support linux, Max support will sort of fall into place, I think
03:17.07Temso it shouldn't be a problem
03:17.07ckknightsort of
03:17.26Temat worst, they can emulate
03:17.39ckknightI don't have a mac to test on
03:17.45ckknightso I'd need another developer to do that
03:17.51TemAlmost everyone I work with has a mac
03:17.58Temso I might be able to help there
03:18.08ckknightalright
03:42.16Kaeltenwhat you trying to test ck?
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03:43.48kergothTem, that .net argument is silly. any idiot can write an app with python and pygtk, too
03:44.08Temkergoth: yes, you're right
03:44.27Temlets put it this way:
03:44.44TemI have a bad taste in my mouth when I think of .NET
03:44.57Temwhether it makes sense or not, I don't really care
03:45.04ckknightwell, Dolby is cool with the idea
03:45.10ckknightit seems
03:45.13Temyay
03:45.20Temso the only site I care if it works for is on board
03:45.25ckknightand with the way he's letting me do this, I can really do it in any language
03:45.29kergothid`, http://vim.sourceforge.net/scripts/script.php?script_id=1532 .. syntax highlighting for files with no filetype, just plain text files, like readmes and logs and such.
03:45.37ckknightas long as it supports XML and a basic WebClient class
03:45.44ckknightwhich .NET, Java, Python, etc. have
03:45.53ckknightnote: I do not want to do this in C/C++
03:46.01TemI don't blame you there
03:46.05ckknightI could do Python
03:46.09ckknightI'd have no problem with that
03:46.13Temther are very, very few things I want to do in c/c++ these days
03:46.17ckknightright
03:46.17Tems/ther/there/
03:46.26Kaeltenckknight, what are you trying to do?
03:46.28kergothi keep getting confused, syntactically, going back and forth between python and lua :)
03:46.33ckknightKaelten, automatic uploading
03:46.36Temkergoth: lol
03:46.43ckknightI say, there's really nothing that needs to be done in C++, except supporting legacy apps
03:46.47Kaeltenyou mean automatic submitting ?
03:46.50ckknightkernal-side stuff should be done in C
03:46.51ckknightrighjt
03:46.53kergoth<PROTECTED>
03:46.53kergoth<PROTECTED>
03:46.53kergothSyntaxError: invalid syntax
03:46.54ckknightrighT*
03:46.54kergoth:)
03:46.59ckknightkernel*
03:47.00ckknightgah
03:47.12ckknightand other stuff should be done managed
03:47.15Kaeltenckknight, you working with dolby to do that?
03:47.18ckknightyep
03:47.19kergothyes. if you write a kernel in c++, i will hunt you down and slit your throat
03:47.30ckknightwell, he responded to the forum post happily
03:47.34ckknightand Cairenn said he was cool
03:47.46ckknightkergoth, why would you write a kernel in C++?
03:47.58ckknightkernels should be done in C
03:48.15ckknightthough Singularity (C#) is pretty shiny
03:48.15kergothckknight, i dunno, but a friend was coding in the os x kernel, talking about object inspection and having a dynamic cast fail in a driver
03:48.24TainI'm certainly ot writing a kernel in Visual Basic.
03:48.30Tains/os/not/
03:48.30kergothhaha
03:48.31ckknightI thought Mach was C...
03:48.35kergothwe do use gotos in the kernel :)
03:48.37Tainyeah
03:48.38Tainthat
03:48.53kergothgotos are excellent for error handling in C initialization functions
03:49.16ckknightgotos aren't inherently bad in and of themselves
03:49.22ckknightit's just that they can be abused easily
03:49.48kergothckknight, the way i see it, its bypassing the proper language constructs to exert manual control over execution flow
03:49.54kergothand as you say, thats easily abused
03:49.55ckknightyea
03:49.59ckknightwhich sometimes needs to happen
03:49.59TainThere are simply very, very few places where using a goto is the best solution.
03:50.02ckknightbut most of the time, not
03:50.18kergothand its a sign of lacks in the language that you need it (namely, error handling in initialization routines.. at least c++ has exceptions)
03:50.24TainThat doesn't mean there are no places, but you better be damn sure. :)
03:50.37ckknightSo I'm thinking Python for this project is suitable...
03:51.08ckknightI'll wait till Dolby does his thing, first
03:51.16kergothi need to try ruby one of these days
03:51.19kergothi keep hearing good things
03:51.20ckknightRuby is shiny
03:51.24kergothand it looks kinda like lua, syntactically
03:51.26ckknightI've done work with RoR on it
03:51.30kergothah cool
03:51.34kergothi hear people raving over RoR all the time
03:51.36Kaeltenarg damn KCET
03:51.37kergothneed to try it
03:51.37Kaeltenlol
03:51.41ckknightRoR is a shiny toy
03:51.46ckknightI wouldn't use it for a business website
03:51.56ckknightjust my opinion, though
03:52.03ckknightyou could, it's just not as efficient as one would hope
03:52.08kergothah
03:52.18ckknightespecially with multiple users
03:52.24kergothi'm so outta the loop on web stuff, and i'm so happy to be outta the loop
03:52.40ckknightWeb design can be fun or it can be hell
03:52.42ckknightor both
03:52.52ckknightin a realm of perpetual suffering and glee
03:52.58kergothhehe
03:53.44kergothi should finish optimizing the object model for lua 5.0 (table usage bits)
03:53.45kergothhmm
04:04.00ckknightyes
04:04.51FryGuyKaelten: is ther ea new(er) version of acegui that works with kc_items?
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04:16.19Kaelten.090
04:19.56FryGuythe one released in december?
04:21.09FryGuyholy crap
04:21.11FryGuyi didn't have that one :(
04:21.30FryGuyi kept going back and seeing december and thinking I had it
04:22.12FryGuysorry :(
04:22.30FryGuyany news on 1.10-enabled-embedded acegui?
04:23.07Temin java, is there not a better way to see if the contents of a string represent an integer than using Integer.parseInt in a try block?
04:24.24Temscrew it.  I'll just use String.matches
04:24.53KaeltenFryGuy,  blizz's dynamic frame support isn't perfect yet
04:24.58Kaeltentem was working on something though
04:25.14FryGuyya it's not on svn anymore :(
04:25.19Temyeah, it's on hold until 1.11 PTR
04:25.33FryGuyoh :(
04:25.43FryGuyso I should continue to use acegui .090 then
04:25.50Temif you want...
04:26.13Kaeltengods I feel so out of touch with everything
04:26.58TemKaelten: did you see the blizzard of new API functions we got on thursday?
04:27.09Kaeltennope
04:27.11Kaeltenanything good?
04:27.22Temonly everything that was missing from the frame API
04:27.46Kaeltennice
04:27.54Kaeltenjust looked at the list
04:28.02Kaelten1.11 will fix a lot of things then
04:28.46Temliterally like everything we were missing
04:29.50Kaeltenhmm whats title region for?
04:31.34TemIt's a clickable area on a frame that drags the frame
04:32.32Kaeltenhmm
04:32.34Kaeltencool
04:35.01FryGuyhmm
04:35.02FryGuyhttp://www.break.com/index/livemario29.html :D
04:44.27FryGuyman I wish i could get error reporting in my lua implementation :(
04:47.22ckknightomg
04:47.23ckknightthat was great
04:47.31ckknighterror reporting?
04:48.11FryGuyya
04:48.28FryGuylike.. "error: attempt to call global foo"
04:53.31Tekcubthe nintendo acapella was better :P
04:53.52TekcubI'll find a link in a min
04:56.51Tekcubhttp://www.wimp.com/acapella/
04:58.55FryGuyya i seen that one too
04:59.41FryGuybetter server: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ldFCBpTwEGI&search=nintendo%20acapella
05:00.08Tekcubdubba dubba dubba
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05:25.50Kaeltentekcub  how does special events work with bagupdates?
05:27.26Tekcubwhat do you mean?
05:28.35Kaeltenhmm
05:28.39KaeltenI'm trying to rewrite KCET
05:28.43Kaeltenand its giving me aheadahce
05:29.17Kaeltenpeople are pestering me for an update
05:29.20CIA-1303tekkub * r1192 10FuBar_DebugProfiler/ (6 files):
05:29.20CIA-13FuBar_DebugProfiler
05:29.20CIA-13- Seperated code up into multiple files
05:29.20CIA-13- Added hooking for OnUpdate frames
05:29.21CIA-13- Doesn't auto-update tooltip with newest FuBar, I'll get it all Metrognome'd up tomorrow... but first... SLEEEEEEEEEEP!
05:29.21Tekcubkek
05:29.32Tekcubit fires events for bags
05:30.12Tekcubbut instead of blizzard's "Oi! Bag 4 changed in some way" it's more like "Hey you... bag 4 slot 6, [Some item], 4 in the slack"
05:30.28Kaeltenhmm
05:30.39Tekcubit doesn't fire for cooldown or locks or anything
05:30.43KaeltenI've got a new method that will make the math easier
05:30.47Tekcubjust physical items changes
05:30.55Kaeltenbut its still laggy
05:30.59Tekcubgain/lost on a per-slot basis
05:31.36Tekcuband of course, there's modules for equipped items and bank items as well :)
05:31.50Kaeltenthats cool
05:31.54Tekcuband there's the cooldown one but I havn't futzed iwth it in some time
05:32.05TekcubI think it might need metrognoming
05:32.51Kaeltentrying to map out a cache system that will clear only specific items on bag update is scary
05:33.47Tekcubanyway give er a looksie, the events basically work the same way ace's custom events work
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05:33.48Tekcubheh, yea the idea of SEBags is to keep a state image and only update on a per-slot basis
05:33.57Tekcubinstead of this mad bag scanning shit everyone likes so much
05:34.28TekcubOMG you touched something! *SCAN*
05:34.58Tekcubwelp, meetin in the morn, me go make sleep
05:35.16TekcubI'll fuck with AceEvents and FuBar Debug Profiler tomorrw *eg*
05:35.24Kaeltenhmm
05:35.36KaeltenI guess I'm going to have to keep a list of reagents to watch for as I build the cache
05:36.11Tekcubif you're tracking specific items just do a scan and save their info, you don't have to save all slots
05:36.26Tekcubthen on the SpecialEvent if it's one of the items do what you need
05:36.31Tekcubotherwise ignore it
05:36.42Kaeltenwell I'm, going to have to update the data on certain items
05:37.10Tekcubthe whole idea is that SE _should_ provide you all the info you need with the event's args
05:37.23Kaeltenhmm
05:37.31Tekcubso you don't have to go finding out about the item... unless ya gotta do a tooltip scanning or something
05:38.06Kaeltenright
05:38.20Kaeltenwell it gives the new stack size in the args?
05:38.32Tekcubso anywho, I'm really leaving now, pester me tomorrow if you need help with SE
05:38.37Tekcubyes
05:38.43Tekcubbag, slot, link, stack
05:38.51Kaeltenoh the other question
05:38.52Tekcubnil == empty
05:38.57Kaeltenis it embedable?
05:39.03TekcubFUCK YES
05:39.06Tekcub^^
05:39.19Tekcub2/3 of SE has been converted over to embeds
05:39.27Kaeltencool
05:39.33KaeltenI'm going to need to embed the bank and bag sections then
05:39.36TekcubSEAura hasn't cause I need to get it converted to Gratuity first
05:40.06Tekcubthen embed, each lua file is in a seperate folder for easy extern-ing
05:40.15Kaeltencool
05:40.22Kaeltenwell get some rest
05:40.26Tekcubyarr, laters
05:40.30KaeltenI'm going to work on this some more tommorow
05:43.39Kaeltennight guys
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07:02.47ThianaHmm, do conditionals not short circuit in lua?
07:03.34Wobin_they should
07:03.35Wobin_brb
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07:08.17ckknightyea, they do, Thiana
07:09.14ThianaWhy would: if (MobInfoDB and MobHealth_GetTargetCurHP() <= h[i]) then cause an 'attempt to compare nil with number' ?
07:09.51Wobin_you haven't checked that h[i] exists
07:10.09Wobin_You could do MobInfoDB and h[i] and MobHealth_Get...etc
07:10.13ThianaIt does, h is declared at the top of the function (list of health costs)
07:10.24CodayusHmm, got by Benediction.
07:10.26CodayusWee.
07:10.40ThianaBenediction?
07:10.49CodayusThiana - priest epic quest staff
07:10.50Wobin_Thiana: Could you pastebin the function?
07:10.56Thianak
07:11.02ThianaGrats Coda :)
07:12.27Thianahttp://ace.pastebin.com/689887 if I did it correctly.
07:14.52Wobin_is there any way MobHealth_GetTargetCurHP will return a nil?
07:15.17ThianaI dont see how, the target is valid at tcgCore:HaveTarget(). I'll check the code now.
07:16.27ThianaHmm, possibly. The function is if (alive) return hps else return nil. So if the mob died between the two calls.
07:16.48ThianaSo (MobHealth_GetTargetCurHP() or 0) <= h[i] ?
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07:23.02Wobin_That could work, aye
07:23.09[MoonWolf]morning peple.
07:23.13ThianaThanks :)
07:23.18ThianaMorning MoonWolf :)
07:23.29[MoonWolf]people*
07:23.49[MoonWolf]I dont remember you ... welcome.
07:24.52ThianaI've been lurking for a week or so now :)
07:25.25[MoonWolf]I dont make a habit out of reading the user list. :P
07:38.08ckknightThiana's been about
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08:05.19ckknightok, I need API advice
08:05.38Elviso42
08:05.47ckknightfor TabletLib
08:05.54ckknightI'm adding another category argument
08:05.58ckknighthideWithoutChildren
08:06.15ckknightwhich causes the header + blank line to not show if no children lines are present
08:06.31ckknightnow should I have it be hideWithoutChildren or showWithoutChildren?
08:10.16Elvisowhich mode do you consider default, and/or which do you think will be used more often?
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08:13.51ckknightI think I may lean toward showWithoutChildren
08:13.56ckknightit's typically what you'd want
08:21.26CIA-1303ckknight * r1193 10TabletLib/ (API.html Lib/TabletLib.lua):
08:21.27CIA-13TabletLib - added showWithoutChildren.
08:21.27CIA-13Categories now hide by default if they have no children in them.
08:24.54kergothhttp://www.boingboing.net/2006/04/29/stephen_colbert_kick.html
08:25.41[MoonWolf]boinb boing .net ?
08:26.23[MoonWolf]http://www.paulkrassner.com/ <lol NSFW
08:37.19Wobbledear god
08:37.21WobbleOreo-O's
08:37.31WobbleIt's like eating a bowlful of sugarcubes
08:46.33ckknighthrm, cool, kergoth
08:47.43FryGuyhmm
08:47.48FryGuyi wish I had timex in my lua sandbox :(
08:47.55FryGuyit'd be so helpful
08:48.14kergothdewdroplib.lua:240: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value
08:48.17FryGuydon't really want to go port it though
08:48.19kergothrepeatedly
08:48.21kergothhrm
08:50.17CIA-1303ckknight * r1194 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed blank line blow title with hidden categories.
08:50.18ckknightbacks up?
08:50.40ckknightkergoth, recent dewdrop?
08:51.18kergoth?
08:51.23ckknightyour error
08:51.25ckknightI think it was fixed
08:51.33kergothfubar 1.1.1182
08:51.44kergothno standalone dewdrop, only embedded
08:51.58ckknightah, can you check the version of dewdrop?
08:52.05ckknightit's at the top of the lua file
08:52.13ckknightwait, nvm
08:52.14ckknightwtf.
08:52.15ckknightweird
08:53.29ckknighteither way, fixed
08:53.55kergothk
08:54.00CIA-1303ckknight * r1195 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - dewdroplib.lua:240: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value
08:54.07kergoththanks
08:56.41kergothgrr, lost control of the bindings of elements market.  too many undercutting me and not enough bankroll to do anything about it
08:57.17kergothso... methinks i'll sell off a shitload at less than they're worth, undercutting everyone, screwing up that market even further to at least recoup some of my losses
08:57.18kergoth:P
08:58.12kergothhehe, fubar just won the honor of 'biggest addon' in my warmup execution
09:00.00[MoonWolf]lol
09:01.07ckknightyea
09:01.12ckknightit's cause of the libs and such
09:01.56ckknightI know BabbleLib takes up a chunk of space on the first load
09:02.03ckknightbut after the first gc, it slims down
09:02.11ckknightcause of all the strings
09:02.15ckknightand such
09:02.32kergothnod
09:02.38ckknighthow big is Titan memory-wise on first load?
09:04.18ckknightFuBar by it self really isn't that big
09:04.24ckknightit creates everything on demand
09:04.30ckknightmeus, tooltips, frames
09:09.25ckknightand it doesn't have residual memory increases
09:13.36kergothwheres your svn? that error is driving me nuts
09:21.32kergothhehe, thats fun. tooltip closing on mouseover
09:24.08ckknightwhich error?
09:24.28kergoththe one you just fixed in dewdroplib
09:24.32kergothwheres your svn at?
09:24.39ckknighthttp://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/DewdropLib
09:24.53kergothah.
09:24.53ckknightoyu can also just update from http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/FuBar
09:25.02ckknightcause it uses svn:externals
09:27.05CIA-1303ckknight * r1196 10FuBar/README.txt: FuBar - updated to use new DewdropLib and TabletLib
09:31.21CIA-1303ckknight * r1197 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed a color inheritance issue.
09:31.43CIA-1303ckknight * r1198 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - fixed colors.
09:32.09kergothDewdropLib.lua:242:attempt to call a nil value
09:33.43FryGuywhat's tabletlib?
09:35.17CIA-1303ckknight * r1199 10FuBar_RestFu/ (RestFu.lua RestFuLocals.lua): RestFu - added Filtering/purging of stats.
09:35.28ckknightkergoth, blah
09:35.37ckknightFryGuy, it's a tooltip-like display
09:35.55FryGuy`hmm
09:35.56FryGuyok :p
09:36.48CIA-1303ckknight * r1200 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - DewdropLib.lua:242:attempt to call a nil value
09:37.14ckknightokay, kergoth
09:37.15ckknightall set
09:37.47kergothcool, thanks
09:39.35ckknightone by one, the bugs go away
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09:45.31StylpeThink I should import KIC to the SVN?
09:47.02ckknightyea, sure
09:47.10ckknightyou have an account?
09:48.29ckknightCairenn should have mademe an FA in her absence :-P
09:51.55Wobin_KIC?
09:52.23ckknightkeep it cool
09:53.09Wobin_aha
09:53.46ckknightokay
09:53.50ckknightI'm making a new lib
09:53.54ckknightthis one is mostly FuBar specific
09:54.07ckknightI want to take the "Auto-adjust" code out of FuBar
09:54.12ckknightwhat shoukd I name the lib?
09:55.30ckknightshould*
09:55.36ckknightI think I might just call it AdjustLib
09:55.40ckknight:-P
09:58.42StylpeAdLib =)
09:59.43ckknightno, that seems like a lib that gives ads
10:00.58StylpeWell, you're already using a lot of non-descriptive lib names
10:06.34StylpeAnd I don't think I have an account, no
10:09.29ckknightemail cladhaire
10:20.12Stylpedone
10:20.24[MoonWolf]ckknight, your honour prediction is pretty damn precise
10:20.29[MoonWolf]20 points off.
10:21.28ckknightdammit!
10:21.35ckknightinaccurate.
10:22.03ckknightgonna put one on svn
10:22.08ckknighthope you don't mind testing
10:22.50[MoonWolf]not really, but you would have to wait day before the results are in.
10:23.02ckknightyea, yea
10:23.05ckknightunderstandable
10:24.44ckknight20 points too high, right?
10:24.54[MoonWolf]low actually
10:24.58ckknightwtf?
10:25.02ckknightnvm, then
10:25.13ckknightdon't know how to precisely deal with that
10:25.24[MoonWolf]not that i mind. 20 points is pretty damn accurate.
10:25.34ckknightstill not 100% accurate...
10:25.37[MoonWolf]for some reason a event might not have fired correctly
10:26.09Wobin_ckknight: JostleLib
10:26.17ckknightgood idea
10:27.53StylpeTell me is itt he SVN server that is slow, or is ir TortoiseSVN?
10:29.32ckknightsvn server, likely
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10:38.05StylpeQuestion: Is oRA capable of fully replacing CTRA?
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11:05.33Slaymanckknight: JoustLib ?
11:21.38id`MakeWaffleLib ?
12:24.26id`haste: omg like make otravi_ExperienceBar next
12:24.28id`:P
12:25.34hasteid`: omg like, check my answer :p
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13:45.35Kaeltenello everyone
13:46.35id`hi Kaelten
13:46.38id`haste: ownage
13:46.55Kaeltenhaste,  Do you want oRA in the ace section yet?
13:47.26hasteKaelten: I want to keep it in the beta untill I've fixed every bug I know of right now
13:47.31Kaeltenkk
13:47.36Kaeltenjust let us know when
13:47.40hasteI will :)
13:49.28Kaeltenhas anyone ever experianced odd behavior out of math.min?
13:51.39CIA-1303otravi * r1201 10otravi_CastingBar/otravi_CastingBar.lua: otravi_CastingBar - The font issue is now fixed.
14:22.36NeriakTekcub: you there?
14:25.07Neriakdamn .. need to report .. fucking dvd-burner
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14:46.09Neriakre
14:51.34cladhaireStylpe: Email has been bsent.
14:52.31cladhaires/bs/s/
14:55.09CIA-1303neriak * r1202 10Paparazzi/ (. Bindings.xml Paparazzi.lua Paparazzi.toc): Paparazzi: Initial Commit
14:56.50Wobin_Thank you Tekcub
14:56.55Wobin_Now I have it stuck in my head
14:57.15Tekcub^^
14:57.56Kaeltenlol
14:58.00Kaeltenhavn't seen drwho in forever
14:58.10cladhaireHow is everyone doing?
14:58.12Tekcubthe new one is good
14:58.16Wobin_THe new one is not bad
14:58.27Kaeltennew one?
14:58.29Tekcubjust watched this week's
14:58.32Wobin_I haven't seen the latest incarnation though
14:58.42Wobin_Just the Chris Eccleston one
14:59.12Tekcubwas he, what, #10? they changed him at the end of S1
14:59.29Wobin_9th?
14:59.34Wobin_I think he was the 9th
14:59.52Tekcubsomewhere in there, I'm not my quasi-ex, I can't name them all in order
15:00.04Tekcubbut I do know Paul Megan doesn't count
15:00.08Wobin_quasi-ex?
15:00.19Wobin_(That's like not counting that one James Bond =P)
15:00.41Tekcubhe woulda been my BF, and by all rights he probably could be considered that... but I never wanted to
15:01.45CIA-1303neriak * r1203 10AceLoot/ (AceLoot.lua AceLoot.toc): AceLoot: added toggle to only position button once (prevents the frame from jumping around while looting), added toggle to auto-hide the LootFrame, added svn:keywords Date Rev
15:04.59NeriakTekcub: What do I have to change to let StayWithinTheLines handle frames with two anchors?
15:06.07Tekcubwherever it reanchors stuff you need to apply to all the anchors....
15:06.30Neriakyeh but I don't understand the sourcecode :P
15:06.35phyberin FuBar_QuestFu, how do you get the quests readded to it if you clicked the - and removed them?
15:06.44Tekcubthen like you suck, and blow, at the same time
15:07.18hasteI blame the documentation.
15:07.22Neriakno way, you didn't comment shit
15:07.44hastejust like me :--D
15:08.59NeriakTekcub: but p1 and p2 already are the two anchors, aren't they? -> frame:SetPoint(p1, pr, p2, x, y)
15:12.12Slaymanckknight: with Dewdroplib is theoretically possible to create such a drop on rightclicking of the minimap (just in theory  yes/no  )
15:15.01NeriakTekcub: too bad you can't give Metrognome a number how often it should call a function, for eg. do metro:Start("foo", repeat)
15:16.33TekcubI was never aiming to replace Timex Ner
15:16.42TekcubI was aiming to replace OnUpdates
15:18.05NeriakYes I know that.
15:18.25NeriakOk, then somebody should convert Timex to an embedded Lib ;)
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15:19.18NeriakIt's a joke I need an extra addon for a function that needs to take screenshots each number of seconds for a custom amount of repetitions ;)
15:19.58NeriakSince you guys wrote all that libs, I'm all for embedded stuff.
15:21.38Tekcubjust track number of calls yourself and call stop when you're done :P
15:21.43NeriakTekcub: ok, but I maybe have a feature request for Metrognome. Make it take multiple handlers for ChangeRate, like you did that for me in Unregister()
15:22.10Neriakyes, I already thought about that. HOwever I'm not sure how performant this'd be.
15:22.19Tekcubugh, whet the fuck are you doing anyway? scheduling 50 things?
15:22.25Neriak5 :P
15:22.37Tekcubperformant?
15:22.37Neriakno, 4 ... low, med, high and zone ;)
15:23.38Tekcubhrm...
15:23.56TekcubI might slip in an arg on Start for number of cycles to run
15:24.00Neriakwhat's the correct word? performance, to be ...
15:24.35Tekcubwow, I got like a 2" long nipple hair
15:24.46Neriaklol
15:24.51Tekcubit looks aweful but... I don't wanna pull it out... that'll hurt
15:25.01Neriakuse a lighter
15:25.21Tekcubicky burned hair smell
15:25.35Tekcub*lights nipple* WOOSH!*
15:25.40Neriakthen you have to live with that ugly shit
15:25.58Tekcubscissors :)
15:26.03Neriak^^
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15:27.44Neriakman, i really need the LootFrame jump back to the screen automatically when it went offscreen ... thousands of people dmenading for that feature and I fucking can't code that crap :(
15:27.54Neriakdemanding ..
15:28.24NeriakIt's interesting how many peepz are using it. I made them forget Telo's Quickloot hehe
15:28.54haste~comfort Neriak
15:28.56purlThere, there, Neriak.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
15:29.16NeriakI already tried to only code it eventdriven .. but it doesn't work that way, I really need to hook the LootFrame for updates ..
15:29.36Neriakand kergoth: please add me to purl's user list
15:29.51hasteuser list :O ?
15:29.59cladhaireNeriak: Use StayBetweenTheLines
15:30.04Tekcubyou know, it's just me... but I find that whole quickloot thing totally unneeded
15:30.05Neriakyeh, purl has commands like adduser
15:30.08cladhaireNeriak: Its an embedded library that Tekkub wrote
15:30.10Neriakso it must have a userlist
15:30.29Neriakcladhaire: it doesn't work with frames that have to anchors :()
15:30.37cladhaireoooh
15:30.37cladhaireboo
15:30.43Neriakyeh Tekcub fucking sux ;)
15:30.49Tekcubclad pay attention, he's been whining at me to get multi-anchored frames working in SBTL for a few days :P
15:30.51cladhairecode a nice simple OnUpdate handler
15:30.59Neriakand me too, because I can't change that ;)
15:31.28cladhaireGetLeft() GetTop(), then re-anchor it based on where it needs to be to be on the screen.
15:31.35cladhaireI could give you the code using StickyFramrs
15:31.48Neriakhmm doesn't sound bad ;)
15:31.50cladhairejust would have to make four frames that create a border around the world.
15:31.58Neriakthat's at least more than Tekcub did for me ^^
15:32.21cladhaireyou're better off just custom coding it.
15:32.27Neriakyou're the hit, he's teh shit  *evil grins*
15:33.03TekcubI'll get to it soon enough, putting in shit in metro first :P
15:33.11Neriakseriously I could need help on AceLoot .. there's so many stuff that sucks
15:34.23NeriakFor example the self.Hooks["LootFrame].org() that is called each time LOOT_SLOT_CLEARED is fired
15:34.43NeriakAceHooks is bitching about it ;)
15:35.03cladhairewait.
15:35.03NeriakTekcub: I lub you :P
15:35.06cladhairethats not right.
15:35.11cladhaireWhat are you hooking?
15:35.27cladhairethe form is self.Hooks[Object]["method"].orig() not that monstrosity you just posted =)
15:35.27Neriakself:Hook("LootFrame_Update", "ItemUnderCursor")
15:35.47cladhairethen its self.Hooks["LootFrame_Update"].orig()
15:35.50Neriakself.Hooks["LootFrame_Update"].orig()
15:36.09Neriakyeh it is, but I'm using the same method for hooking and the Event I've posted
15:36.13cladhaireok, and what does it say?
15:36.14Neriakpasted
15:36.36Neriaksomething like it's not hooked
15:36.38CIA-1303tekkub * r1204 10Metrognome/Lib/MetrognomeLib.lua: MetrognomeLib - Added numexec arg to Start, this optional arg will limit the number of times the timer is fired before Metro stops it. This value is cleared whenever the timer is stopped.
15:37.43Neriakhook -> unhook -> event fires -> unhook (nothing there to unhook) - > event -> repeat
15:37.44cladhairewell i have to know exactly what it says =)
15:37.47cladhairewait
15:37.51Neriakthat's whatr basically is happening
15:37.51cladhairewhy are you unhooking?
15:38.05cladhairewhy are you unhooking at all?
15:38.13Neriakbecause it's bad to not do it
15:38.16cladhaireno
15:38.19cladhaireits bad to unhook
15:38.23Neriakwhat if other addons need to hook it ?
15:38.27cladhairethey hook after you
15:38.29cladhaireits a hook chain
15:38.35cladhaireyou actually disrupt the hook chain by unhooking.
15:38.39Neriakhmm
15:38.43cladhaireexcept you use AceHooks, so it does some magic t make it work.
15:39.06NeriakI think if I take that unhook away the auto-positioning is broken
15:39.07cladhairehooks don't know about anyone else around them-- but you can have a chain of 50 hooks, all of which think they're the ONLY hook =)
15:39.16NeriakIf i remember right I tried it already
15:39.23cladhairewell, i can categorically state that unhooking erach time is a bad idea.
15:39.31cladhaireso there's gotta be something else you can do =)
15:39.43NeriakI can't log in at the moment .. waiting queue :(
15:39.52cladhairewheres the code?
15:39.56cladhairei'llt ake a look if i can
15:40.17Neriakthere's a trunk in SVN
15:40.19NeriakAceLoot
15:41.03CIA-1303tekkub * r1205 10Metrognome/Lib/MetrognomeLib.lua: MetrognomeLib - ChangeRate will now take up to 5 name/rate pairs
15:41.26Tekcubhey claddy, question for ya
15:41.33Neriakcool tekcub ! :)
15:41.36Neriakaeh tekkub
15:41.50Tekcubif you're just changing x/y values on all the frame's anchor points do you need to clear points?
15:42.02Tekcubor can I iterate over em and re-set them?
15:42.14cladhaireNot sure, but I do it to be sure, anytime I change an anchor
15:42.20cladhairei think you could be okay tho
15:42.21Tekcubokey
15:42.43NeriakAll I know is the before you change x or y you always have to do it because SetPoint sometimes goes nuts when you did no ClearAllPoints before
15:42.50Neriakturan said that
15:43.13Tekcubokey
15:43.19TekcubI hate anchorpoints :P
15:43.22Neriak:)
15:44.13Tekcubhey cladder, what's the status on AceLibStub?
15:44.18Slaymanwhat addon closes my popupdialogues on mouseover? i hate it
15:44.19cladhaireAceLibrary
15:44.26cladhaireits not done yet.. but its like 3 seconds away from being done
15:44.38cladhairebut I want to roll AceHooks out as an example with it.
15:44.43Tekcub3
15:44.45cladhaireso you guys can seewhat sort of format we're expecting.
15:44.47Tekcub2
15:44.51Tekcub1
15:44.56Tekcub......
15:45.01Tekcubfucking liar
15:45.02Neriakrofl
15:45.37Tekcubanywho, expect a batch of major version changes in all my libs when ALS goes gold :)
15:45.42cladhaireive had a lot going on this weekend, didn't get much coding done, and I won't get much done here.
15:45.54Tekcubv2 of each will be ALS versions
15:45.55[MoonWolf]<PROTECTED>
15:45.57Slaymanmmh it's FuBar or any of it's mods shame on that
15:45.59cladhaireshit from me skips gold and goes Platinum
15:46.00[MoonWolf]ace2 has no need to be rushed.
15:46.08TekcubI understand Clad
15:46.16Tekcubthis is my first real chance to code
15:46.18cladhaire[MoonWolf]: AceLibrary is pre-Ace2
15:46.19[MoonWolf]actually, take your time, this are the things that need carefull planning and testing.
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15:46.33Tekcuband I feel all obligated to work on ID since that guy gave me money
15:46.34cladhaireAceLibrary is very stable and solid at the moment.. its just the stub after all =)
15:46.34[MoonWolf]cladhaire, but its a part of the road is it not ?
15:46.54cladhaireYes, but not a "new" one.
15:47.03Tekcubbut I wanted to hammer out FuBar DebugProfiler's AceEvents hooker
15:47.18Tekcubbut you all bitched at me to do other shit first
15:47.19cladhaireO.o
15:47.20cladhairehuh?
15:47.28Tekcuboh I didn't tell you?
15:47.31cladhairewas that english?
15:47.31[MoonWolf]no
15:47.50TekcubI'm gonna hijack AceEvent's trigger method so I can get profile data on each event/mod
15:48.07cladhairewhy arne't i just putting the profile stuff in aceevent like we talked?
15:48.07Tekcubinstead of the one big AceEventFrame item in the Frame hooker section :)
15:48.18Tekcubis that in the live version?
15:48.21cladhaireno
15:48.27Tekcubthat's why
15:48.33cladhairelol
15:48.33cladhaireok
15:48.35cladhairehave fun
15:48.52Tekcubwell I dunno, what version is that in?
15:50.48cladhairenone yet
15:50.52cladhairebut you asked for it.
15:51.35Tekcubyea well... meh
15:51.37Tekcubfuck it
15:51.45cladhaireNeriak: That only happens when you have two items in the loot window or more I assume?
15:51.47TekcubI'll just leave that out for now
15:51.50cladhaireand where does the error message spit out?
15:52.53Tekcubhey clad.....
15:53.01cladhairehey cub...
15:53.12Tekcubslip whatever clickcasting majicks you got into PRT for me *grin*
15:53.54cladhairethere's no magicks.. you can just jack the code I have
15:53.55Neriakcladhaire: yes
15:54.04Neriakwhen you've looted one
15:54.09cladhaireNeriak: K.. just trying to find someone with loot =)
15:54.11Tekcuboh do the jacking for me
15:54.16Tekcubmy wrist is tired
15:54.18cladhairei'm waiting for the arena event.
15:54.34cladhaireIf i had a dollar for everytime.. =
15:54.34Neriakcladhaire: hehe, that's the problem witrh this addon .. it's hard to test *g*
15:54.56StylpeThanks, cladhaire =)
15:55.25cladhaireNeriak: No errors for me.
15:55.31cladhaireNeriak: But they'd come out using Acedebug, no?
15:55.59NeriakTekcub: want me to start localizing things in BigWig? I'll throw some updates on the SVN when I've got time to .. already localized the whole BWL bosses
15:56.12cladhairenp Stylpe.. glad to see you back =)
15:56.22TekcubNer: I don't give a fuck, I don't speak funny-talk
15:56.27Tekcub:P
15:56.50Neriakcladhaire: hm I think so, or it was from that hook report function you've added - what's it's syntax again ?
15:57.00Neriakself:Hooks() or something like that?
15:57.02cladhaireself:HookReport()
15:57.06Neriakoh yeh
15:57.10Neriaktry this one
15:57.30Stylpegoing afk again, DMing a brand new Forgotten Realms campaign :D
15:57.33NeriakOne minute and I can log in
15:58.01Neriak\o/
15:58.08Tekcub"Build, maintain and troubleshoot existing point to point and point to multi-point network. (Wilan, Proxim gear, 900mhz, 2.4mhz, 5.8mhz, 802.11) Must be able to climb towers."
15:58.17Tekcubthank glayven I get Vertigo
15:58.19Neriakbah, the queue changed to 2 minutes .. fuck it
16:01.02cladhairewell i'm going to try for the arena trinket real quick
16:01.05cladhairethen i'll go test again
16:01.09cladhaireten i'm off to clean
16:01.29Tekcubwhat trinket is dat?
16:01.38cladhaireJust the one from gurabashi arena
16:01.47Tekcubyea I gathered that
16:01.49Tekcubname?
16:02.33cladhaire"Arena Master"
16:02.42cladhairelol
16:04.36Tekcubmeh, looks like a rather uninteresting trinket to me :P
16:06.47TainSo don't get one. :P
16:07.21TainWhat is the President thinking.  They had Stephen Colbert speak at the White House Correspondants Dinner.
16:08.02cladhaireNeriak: I'm not getting the issue at all on trunk svn
16:12.06TainColbert was hilarious, it's too bad the audience was dead quiet for the most part, probably too terrified to laugh.
16:20.42Neriakcladhaire: hm, I've changed it to only work event driven, no need for the hook ... atm it's working fine.
16:21.15Neriakbut I did get that debug message some day, I'm not insane *g*
16:24.43Neriakdamned, it doesn't close when there's no lootbutton .. hm
16:28.03cladhaireNeriak: Thats the only bg ilve found.
16:33.09NeriakI may have fixed it, need to test  on some more mobs :P
16:33.29NeriakIt'd be cool when I totally get rid of the hook.
16:33.49NeriakThen my only problem would be the offscreen problem.
16:39.15Neriaklol I know why it does show an empty LootFrame ... I'm checking for 'AutoHide' .. but AutoHide is now in the SavedVariables and no more a local variable.
16:39.21Neriakgreat, it's smooth now :P
16:47.37CIA-1303neriak * r1206 10AceLoot/AceLoot.lua: AceLoot: removed the LootFrame hook, the addon is now completely event driven .. yay!
16:56.13NeriakI wonder why the toc file didn't get the new $Revision$ number
16:56.18Neriakit's set
16:56.42Neriakmust be SVN lag ^^
16:57.21CIA-1303devla 07Devla * r1207 10AceHeal/AceHeal/ (AceHeal.lua AceHealLocals.lua Changelog.txt):
16:57.21CIA-13AceHeal:Updated -some- Spell Rankings, mostly Priest Spells
16:57.21CIA-13<PROTECTED>
16:57.21CIA-13<PROTECTED>
17:00.04CIA-1303otravi * r1208 10otravi_CastingBar/ (otravi_CastingBar.lua otravi_CastingBarLocals.lua): otravi_CastingBar - The user should now be able to set different colors.
17:06.32SokuraiQuick quick D:
17:06.40SokuraiAnyone know the command to remove a buff?
17:07.26CIA-1303otravi * r1209 10otravi_CastingBar/otravi_CastingBarLocals.lua: otravi_CastingBar - Fixed the locals, wups.
17:07.40SokuraiWriting a macro on the fly about to pull Nefarian +_+
17:12.11Neriakhttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Buff.2FDebuff_Functions
17:12.19Sokurailol was about to say 'nm'
17:12.19NeriakCancelPlayerBuff(buffIndex)
17:12.25SokuraiThanks anyway :D
17:12.35Neriakkk ;)
17:13.30clad|afkSo did I hear there's a new castingbar? =)
17:13.33clad|afk*cackle*
17:15.01CIA-1303otravi * r1210 10otravi_CastingBar/otravi_CastingBarLocals.lua: otravi_CastingBar - Fixed the locals (again) *cry*.
17:15.04hasteI suck today :(
17:18.34cladhaireI like it so far =)
17:18.43cladhairei'll have to look at the code =)
17:19.11hasteguess what addon I looked at first.
17:19.16cladhaire?
17:20.10hastePerfectRaid - I basicly wanted to learn how CreateFrame worked.
17:20.15cladhaire=)
17:20.27cladhaireits pretty straightforward =)
17:20.34cladhairehow are you handling updates/onupdates?
17:23.59hastesame way as in Tems example on the forum.
17:24.48cladhairewell it seems pretty clean =)
17:25.54hasteI was thinking about maybe creating a function for the three font strings tho'
17:27.41cladhairewhat do you mjean?
17:32.13hasteWhen I create the fontstrings I repeat the same code three times
17:32.19cladhairehold on a sec.
17:32.58cladhaireyeah you could do that
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17:55.19Wobin_Bah, dev neds to log into here
17:55.45Wobin_I had to do an emergency rollback to aceheal .12 =(
18:00.53cladhairewhat happened?
18:02.03Wobin_Had a sudden error when trying to clickcast
18:02.23Wobin_(Actually, someone set us up the bomb...)
18:02.26Elvisowhat error?
18:02.57Wobin_Unfortunately I can't recall offhand =\ Something to do with line 470 and subtracting from nil or something simlar
18:03.10Elvisoah
18:18.56id`haste: so wheres otravi_ExpercienceBar ? :P
18:19.03id`*need*
18:19.03id`:D
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18:20.20hasteid`: sundays are my guilds raiding day :p
18:53.41Tem|Sleephaste: thats when I get the most coding done
18:53.51Temduring a raid that is
18:54.16Tekcub*burp*
18:59.51hasteNorwegian WoW players + addons = Curse-Gaming + Cosmos
19:00.24hasteI think people dislike the search function on WoWI
19:01.04hasteor... at least most norwegian players :p
19:01.26Temthe search functions aren't all that wonderful at any of the sites
19:01.46hasteWoWI's search function is very hidden tho'
19:01.49Temthe one at wowi is a little harder to find than the others, but otherwise the same
19:15.35FryGuyeh the search function at wowi sorts things wierdly
19:15.40FryGuylike.. reverse alphabetical
19:16.24SlaymanI like big butts and I cannot lie, the other brothers can't deny ... *sing*
19:18.15SlaymanOtravi Unitframes look awesome great work on all the customization
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19:22.49CIA-1303neriak * r1211 10AceLoot/ (AceLoot.lua AceLoot.toc): AceLoot: fixed 'Once' mode, after looting the first item the addon stops auto-position the LootFrame under your cursor.
19:25.04ckknighthey all
19:25.41ckknightsighs*
19:25.44ckknightyou know when you've codeed too much when you dream about coding
19:26.24Neriak|AFKlol what did you code in your dreams ? ^^
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19:28.51ckknightI don't know
19:30.41hasteckknight: You just woke up with a great idea, and how to do it?
19:30.53hasteI tend to experience that at least.
19:31.01ckknightno, but i am going to code now
19:32.41ckknightgonna write JostleLib
19:33.25Neriakwut is a "JostleLib"
19:33.36Slaymanckknight: coded all night long HTML sites next day in school at a test i finished my lines with <br> the teacher must've thought I'm stupid ^^
19:33.56ckknightlol?
19:34.01ckknightyea, doofus
19:34.03ckknightit's <br />
19:34.09Slaymanit's not
19:34.11ckknightjk
19:34.14ckknightlol
19:34.14Slaymanthis is xhtml
19:34.18ckknightI know
19:34.27hastexhtml is the real shit!
19:34.32ckknightright
19:34.44Slaymanthe days i went to school are long gone and back then there was not such an xhtml hype
19:41.30CIA-1303cladhaire * r1212 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidChatCmd.lua): PerfectRaid: Revert to 0.3-Beta for code re-vamp.
19:45.37CIA-1303tekkub * r1213 10StayWithinTheLines/Lib/StayWithinTheLines.lua:
19:45.38CIA-13StayWithinTheLines
19:45.38CIA-13- Now uses svn:keywords to generate a new minor version automatically
19:45.38CIA-13- Cleaned out unneeded comment blocks from the stub structure
19:45.38CIA-13- Now handles frames with any number of anchors
19:45.38CIA-13- Uses compost if it's present, I recommend that it should be :)
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19:56.40hasteTekcub: I found an error in a AQ20 Bigwigs boss, mind if I fix it?
19:57.06Tekcub*shrug*
19:57.14TekcubI don't d,o the boss modules
19:57.29hasteI'm just asking if I can fix it :p
19:57.35hasteor who does AQ20 :D ?
20:03.59kergothhttp://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.lua.general/21979/focus=21979 :)
20:05.19id`haste: aww :p
20:07.02TekcubI'm totally fine with people fixing crap or adding bits to my code on the SVN
20:07.17ckknightsame here
20:07.22ckknightlong as they tell me and leave a note
20:07.26Tekcubmy code has always been open, just don't break it and don't bitch if I reformat it to fit my coding style
20:07.46Tekcubthey don't have to leave a note for me, I'll see the commit in the RSS feed
20:07.59id`kergoth: :D
20:10.18CIA-1303tekkub * r1214 10FuBar_DebugProfiler/ (Core.lua OnEvent.lua OnUpdate.lua):
20:10.19CIA-13FuBar_DebugProfiler
20:10.19CIA-13- Now handles own Metro timer *shakes fist threateningly at Boss*
20:10.19CIA-13- OnUpdate and OnEvent hookers will now try both :GetName and .name to find a name for a frame before resorting to using "Anonymous Frame #"
20:10.57ckknightTekcub, why shake fist?
20:11.08CIA-1303tekkub * r1215 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (4 files in 4 dirs): SpecialEventsEmbed - Added name field to modules' frames for FuBar_DebugProfiler
20:11.08Tekcubwhy not?
20:12.18kergothsweet, https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/
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20:12.36ckknightbecause you gave me the go ahead to have people use metrognome raw
20:13.54CIA-1303tekkub * r1216 10Metrognome/Lib/MetrognomeLib.lua: MetrognomeLib - Added name field to frame for FuBar_DebugProfiler
20:14.19TekcubI know, but I can still act like it's all your fault :)
20:14.34TekcubBTW: FB_DP kicks ass, you tried it out yet?
20:14.50Tekcubit's like Gello's OnEventWatch but or so much cooler
20:15.29Tekcuball that's left is to fuck with AceEvents, at least until Clad's version goes live since he added profiling code into it some time back when I asked
20:17.41Elkanotekcub, to what extend do you have taken over development for FriendsFu and GuildFu?
20:19.01TekcubI fixed it last time it broked :P
20:19.31Tekcubhis coding style was buggin me too, a damn set method for every variable he had
20:19.36Tekcubso I twaked it some
20:19.54TekcubI never see him around so I've not pointed him at the new ones
20:20.13TekcubI know they need fixed for the new metro stuff in fu, all mine do, again :P
20:21.18Elkanowell, I asked since I posted some suggestins (about using BabbleLib and TouristLib) on it's wowi downloadpage, but it seems like he isn't checking that often
20:21.42Tekcubyarr
20:21.53Temwhy is updating my addons through tort slower than doing svn update * ?
20:21.56TekcubI'll tweak mine for metro
20:23.01hasteTem: myabe tort does something strange
20:25.52CIA-1303cladhaire 07Cladhaire * r1217 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/: Branching for unstable development
20:26.02cladhaireHahaha =)
20:26.06cladhairethe trunk is stable.
20:26.13cladhaireits the 0.3-beta from wowi
20:26.31CodayusSpeaking of praid
20:26.33Temgood///
20:26.38CodayusI want some praid party frames.
20:26.45cladhaireCodayus: Yeah, we'll see
20:27.00CodayusAfter raiding with praid for a bit, my old party frames are just so...ugly...and clunky...and stuff.  :-)
20:27.37id`kergoth: woot
20:27.41id`*use*
20:27.49Temhuh?
20:27.56Temkergot published something?
20:27.59Temnot possible
20:28.01id`nah
20:28.07id`sweet, https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/
20:28.15id`in a sense publishing...
20:28.20id`:P
20:28.26kergoth:P
20:28.54CIA-1303cladhaire 07Cladhaire * r1218 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/: Removed file/folder
20:29.50CIA-1303cladhaire 07Cladhaire * r1219 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/: Branching for unstable re-write.
20:30.06Temoh knows
20:30.09Temcladhaire is like me
20:30.21Temhe likes to do complete rewrites on his addons
20:30.25cladhaireyep =)
20:30.46Slaymanhey guys one question, and excuse me for that being a stupid question, can i ask TouristLib if the zone I am in is a Battleground?
20:30.49Temoh man... I need to restart for the new version of tort...
20:30.59cladhairei dont like periods of heavy release, its always bad for users.
20:31.08cladhaireTest something thouroughly, get it where it needs to be, THEN release it.
20:31.12cladhaire*shrug*
20:31.17cladhairesometimes that means a logical re-org
20:31.29Temcladhaire: I don't either, but when I find a bug, I want to release a patch asap
20:31.47cladhaire*nod*
20:31.53CodayusSlayman: No idea, sorry
20:32.45CIA-1303cladhaire 07Cladhaire * r1220 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaid.toc):
20:32.45CIA-13PerfectRaid:
20:32.45CIA-13* Updated .toc file with the correct version number
20:32.45CIA-13* Logical rewrite of most of the core in progress
20:33.45cladhairelol there's nothing in the core
20:33.51cladhairedon't install it =)
20:34.15cladhaireI should label the branch unstable instead of Cladhaire =)
20:35.44CIA-1303cladhaire * r1221 10/branches/PerfectRaid/ (Cladhaire/ unstable/): Renaming the branch so people don't install like rabbits.
20:35.49hasteI ment take a look as look at the code :p
20:35.55cladhairethere is no code =)
20:36.18hastemeep
20:36.27cladhaireor rather there is very little
20:36.29CIA-1303kemayo * r1222 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: FuBar_QuestsFu - Update for changes in TabletLib API.
20:36.37hastetell me when there is - I like looking at how people do different things
20:36.41cladhairei'm trying to find a good way to handle the layout stuff now
20:36.57CIA-1303kemayo * r1223 10FuBar_KungFu/KungFu.lua: FuBar_KungFu - Update for changes in TabletLib API.
20:37.01cladhairebetween alignment, growing up versus down, and the column options
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20:41.07Temckknight: you around?
20:41.11ckknightyep
20:41.53Temis there a way in TabletLib to set your desired tooltip width so that long lines wrap?
20:42.49ckknightcan't set width, minimum width is 200
20:42.54ckknightif you want a line to wrap:
20:43.12ckknightAddLine('text', "A really long line that has no real purpose except to be long", 'wrap', true)
20:43.44ckknightwrapping currently only works for 1-columned lines
20:43.48ckknightbut tha'll change
20:43.51ckknightthat'll*
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20:44.40Neronixevening
20:44.56ckknighthey Ner
20:46.03Tekcuboh, BTW.. Bossman....
20:46.17Temah, k
20:46.29TekcubScrolly Dewdrop.... *rubs nipples and moans*
20:46.50TemI was going to hack QuestsFu to be a little more space-friendly
20:47.05id`Tekcub: dont make me ignore you
20:47.54ckknightthank you for that, Tekcub
20:47.56ckknightwhatever that was
20:48.04ckknightTem, okay
20:48.09ckknightthat's Kemayo's project
20:48.15Temright
20:48.24CIA-1303tekkub * r1224 10/branches/FuBar_FriendsFu/FriendsFu.lua:
20:48.24CIA-13FuBar_FriendsFu (branch)
20:48.24CIA-13- Now handles own Metrognome timer
20:48.24CIA-13- Other tweaks to code design and layout
20:48.32TemI wanted the quest description lines to wrap
20:48.41Tembut they are 2 columned
20:48.44ckknightyea
20:48.45Temso it's not yet possible
20:48.48ckknightI've already talked to him
20:48.55ckknighthe plans to do it as soon as I implement that
20:49.25CIA-1303tekkub 07Tekkub * r1225 10FuBar_GuildFu/GuildFu.lua:
20:49.25CIA-13FuBar_GuildFu (branch)
20:49.25CIA-13- Now handles own Metrognome timer
20:49.25CIA-13- Resrtructured code away from that "all in the table constructor" design that I just really don't care for
20:50.23ckknightyea, Tekcub currently it just moves up and down with the mouse wheel
20:50.23ckknightfrankly, I think that's good
20:50.23Tekcubthat's all I wanted
20:50.37ckknightmaybe I could put in some kind of indicator...
20:50.42Tekcubmaybe a lil arrow at the bottom to show there's more menu, but that's all cosmetic
20:50.54ckknightyea
20:51.18ckknightbut you have scrolling menus
20:51.19ckknightthat won't change
20:51.27ckknightthey just might look different later
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20:55.58hasteI'm glad I started to work on otravi_CastingBar
20:56.11hasteI just read the description on WoWI for eCastingBar...
20:56.23hasteHis basicly turning into a bossmod now
20:56.46Tekcubhe adding all sorts of timers or some shit?
20:57.08hastePvP timers that is
20:57.15hastelike... polymorph
20:57.23NeronixFor example, I want to have the freeze timer for a hunter or polymorph timer
20:57.23Neronixfor a mage
20:57.36Tekcuboh good god
20:57.42NeronixI wanted that on one line >.>
20:57.45haste:-P
20:57.51Tekcubwhy do people get this uge to pile features onto a mod?
20:58.10TekcubI like lots of features, yes... but across many mods so I can can pick and choose
20:58.20hasteI think I'm submiting mine later today...
20:58.21NeronixCosmos devs using MCoIP? :S
20:58.25kergothindeed.  pvp timers with the ecastingbar look shouldve been a seperate addon
20:58.27kergothsilly people
20:58.49NeronixThere's already a mod for that anyway
20:58.55NeronixUniversalTimers or something
20:59.26kergoththat has the ecastingbar look? most of those addons look like crap
20:59.28kergoth:P
20:59.38kergothmeh, my motivation went poof
20:59.40TekcubI love the eCb look, but yea I only use it for the breath/feign mirror, at least until those get added to ArcHUD
20:59.46Tekcubthen buhbye eCb
20:59.50NeronixThey all look like standard blizz bars
21:00.04Tekcubwhich is ugly
21:00.16kergothTekcub, nod. i ditched it when dhud got a castingbar :)
21:00.18Neronixnot really imo
21:00.31hasteI dislike HUDs..
21:00.32NeronixI'll give otravi's a try though
21:00.35haste:---D
21:00.54NeronixHuds look cool and all, but in practice, it's messy
21:01.23TekcubI find mine quite helpful
21:01.25NeronixGave Dhud a try and kept looking at the top/topleft for stuff as I always did before
21:01.28kergothin practice, i'd be a lot less efficient without it
21:01.35TekcubI don't heal so I rarely look at my party frames
21:01.38kergoththats because you didnt get used to it. i dont glance into the corner, ever
21:01.51NeronixAh
21:01.56TekcubI'm very used to my HP/MP and the mob HP being right there
21:02.04Neronixguess 90 mins wandering the shimmering flats in circles wasn't enough
21:02.07Neronix:P
21:02.30Tekcubit's helpful in parties if you're not watching unitframes
21:02.49Tekcuball the needed info right there, especially if the party is burning thru mobs
21:02.51kergothi like having my combo point display right there too. then put energywatch right in the top center of the hud, and i'm happy
21:03.48NeronixI'll give huds a try again tomorrow
21:03.55[MoonWolf]i like energywatch right below my target frame
21:04.06[MoonWolf]yust like i like my targetframe right below my target
21:04.16hasteThe reason I don't like huds is because it's in the middle of my face :p
21:04.16[MoonWolf]focus the elemnt you have where you need to look the most.
21:04.22Neronixfailing that, I'll shrink my current player/target/tt frames and place them near the middle and see how that works :P
21:04.27kergothhaste, which is the reason others love it. thats the whohle point
21:04.37Neronixor more accurately, bottomish middle
21:05.06hasteyeah, I guess so :)
21:05.38kergothhmmmm
21:07.25NeronixBack to the previous subject, allow me to quote Unix philosophy
21:07.33Neronix"A program should do one thing and do it well"
21:07.51Tekcubyup
21:08.04Tekcubthat's why I really like the embeds
21:08.13Tekcubsmall, simple, self-managing
21:08.14Wobin_haste: Otravi_EnergyWatch =)
21:08.16Neronixyeah
21:08.38kergothhehe, thatd be nice
21:08.49id`Tekcub: request for MailFu: a better icon. a letter.
21:08.58Temso, ckknight , when are you planning to get that in?
21:09.05ckknightafter JostleLib
21:09.05kergothNeriak, yeah, feature creep is rampant :(
21:09.10ckknightwhich won't be long
21:09.16ckknightso like 3 hours?
21:09.17hasteWobin_: maybe, I don't have a rogue myself
21:09.21NeronixRight, back to dissecting WikiWikiDPS
21:09.28Temoh, badass
21:09.28Wobin_Now is the perfect time to start!
21:09.29haste"wiki"
21:09.30Neronixneed to hurry up and get NanoStats done
21:09.36Temwhat's jostlelib?
21:09.51Wobin_What does Nanostats do, Nero?
21:09.53Neronixhaste: It's abuse of the world infuriated me to no end too
21:10.00haste:D
21:10.15Tekcubid: find one and I'll consider it
21:10.20id`Tekcub: thanks.
21:10.24TekcubI'm fine with the icon it has now
21:10.29NeronixWobin_: Tiny window showing how much damage/healing/both and average dps/hps/both for the previous battle
21:10.39Neronixjust for yourself, not the entire group or anything
21:10.45id`I didnt knwo it was MailFu until i took a look at all the items one by one
21:10.52kergothi've been using kombatstats for that.  works well
21:11.05kergothhmmm
21:11.10NeronixI'd better have a look at that
21:11.41ckknightJostleLib will be what'll handle the auto-adjustment of the blizzard frames
21:11.44ckknightthe shifting up and down
21:11.48ckknightcurrently it's in FuBar
21:11.55Wobin_night
21:12.01ckknightso I'm taking it out
21:13.51Temckknight: ok, so I'm playing with QuestFu and I just noticed something funny about his detactched tooltip
21:13.58ckknighthrm?
21:14.01id`Tekcub: http://www.mentalhealth.samhsa.gov/disasterrelief/_images/icon_mail.gif
21:14.10id`its cute
21:14.10id`:D
21:14.14*** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
21:14.14*** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ
21:14.16Tekcubheh
21:14.16id`(cute is good)
21:14.21id`especially with icons
21:14.24Temckknight: if I click to drag it around, then place it back rougly where I had it before, it runs the click for that line
21:14.36Tekcubit got a grey version I could use for "no mail"?
21:14.38ckknighthrm
21:14.40ckknightyea
21:14.42ckknightI should set a timer to that
21:14.45cladhaireCairenn: WB Cair =)
21:14.46Temyeah
21:14.51id`could make one
21:14.53Cairennhey cladhaire
21:14.53ckknightCairenn,
21:14.55Temckknight: that's exactly what I was about to suggest
21:14.55ckknightI missed you!
21:15.02Cairennthanks again for dinner last night, was great :)
21:15.03ckknightit was horrible without you
21:15.07Tekcubactually I could just greyscale that one
21:15.13Cairennckknight: awwww *blush*
21:15.13id`yeah
21:15.21id`oh snap dont have pshop installed :(
21:15.29Tekcubwow won't accept gifs as an image format tho will it?
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21:16.14id`no
21:16.22id`gif -> tga
21:16.36CIA-1303cladhaire 07unstable * r1226 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua: PerfectRaid: Wrote :Layout() to handle everything except the multi-column layout. Removed some logic from CreateFrame.
21:16.38Tekcubokey I'll toy with it later
21:16.42Tekcubbed now
21:17.10id`nn
21:17.14ckknighttga or blp
21:17.42ckknightCairenn, can I change my name on WoWI, and if I do, how much confusion would it cause?
21:19.17Neronixkergoth: NanoStats won't be huge and crazy like KombstStats
21:19.22Neronixhence the Nano part :P
21:19.36kergothhehe
21:19.42ckknightfun
21:19.54ckknightbe sure to make NanoStatsFu ;-)
21:20.16NeronixHeh, why not?
21:20.40ckknightit's not that hard
21:20.50ckknightespecially for something that just shows data
21:21.04NeronixI know
21:21.23NeronixI'll get it done once I have NanoStats itself working
21:22.18ckknightyea
21:22.20ckknightall cool
21:24.15Cairennckknight: easy breezy, what do you want it changed to, and none at all
21:24.19ckknightckknight
21:24.51Cairenndone
21:25.06ckknightalright, I should post a message saying the author didn't actually change on FuBar
21:25.18Cairennprobably
21:25.31ckknightah, crap, my portal would've changed
21:26.04Cairennjust go verify that you can edit a file ... should be able to
21:26.14Cairenndon't have to actually edit, just make sure that you *can*
21:26.51grollCairenn u got any webstuff experience? :P check the other channel if u do plz :P
21:27.01CairennI saw, and not really, sorry groll
21:27.05grollargh
21:27.13grollsomeone pretty plzzzz
21:27.23grollur not gonna be as pretty as Cairenn though :D
21:27.31Cairennheh
21:27.58ckknightAuthor of FuBar still says Boss
21:28.11Cairennuntil the first time you update
21:28.15ckknightblast.
21:28.15Cairenncan you edit
21:28.18ckknightyea
21:28.23Cairennokay
21:28.26Cairennthen you are all set
21:28.35Cairennas soon as you next update, name will change
21:28.38ckknightI have to upload a file to change it?
21:28.41ckknightblast.
21:28.43Cairennno
21:28.49Cairennjust edit file description
21:28.52ckknightI did
21:28.54ckknightstill says Boss
21:28.56Cairennhrm
21:29.02Cairennguess maybe you do then, sorry
21:31.39ckknightcan't you just hack the db?
21:31.48ckknightall it'd take is one line
21:31.51CairennDolby probably could
21:31.52CairennI can't
21:32.06ckknightupdate addons set author="ckknight" where author="Boss"
21:32.20kergothjesus, one of my addons, or more, is freaking out in pvp
21:32.23kergothhavent pvpd in a long time
21:32.29kergothui is going apey, disconnecting me :P
21:32.51Cairennckknight: Dolby can, I can't
21:32.57ckknightyea
21:34.28id`nn all
21:34.35id`bah hafta get up at 6AM
21:34.43id`company moved..
21:34.45id`AWAY
21:34.53Neronixnight id`
21:34.53id`about 1.5 hours traveling AWAY
21:35.03id`T_T
21:35.03Cairennckknight: I've sent a note to dolby asking him to update it when he gets the opportunity
21:35.37hasteNeronix: You want the answer, or do you want to boggle it some more?
21:35.43ckknightthanks
21:35.51Cairennnp
21:36.01NeronixI figured out how to do it, but I think it's too long
21:36.28hasteYou don't need a regexp either :o
21:37.09NeronixI know, but I stumbled upon the regex explanation and I freaked out O.o
21:37.18haste:-P
21:39.24NeronixVersion = $Revision 1010 $; rev = %d%d%d%d; string.sub(Version, string.find(Version, rev))
21:39.50NeronixGut feeling says there's a quicker way of doing it, but I dunno since this is only my first time looking at the string.* stuff
21:39.55kergothlua's string patterns are -not- regular expressions.  they're patterns that happen to share a couple things in common with regexes
21:40.10Neronixkergoth: I see
21:41.44ckknightNeronix, bad way of doing it, imho
21:41.55ckknightjust copy my way
21:42.02ckknightit works for any number
21:42.13ckknightcause with %d%d%d%d, you only get 1000-9999
21:42.44NeronixI see, thanks
21:45.00NeronixI get it now. Thanks again
21:51.04CodayusOkay....weird question - it is possible an addon could be causing increased latency?
21:55.08hasteindeed, that is a wierd question
21:55.43CIA-1303neriak * r1227 10gfxToggle/ (gfxToggle.lua gfxToggle.toc gfxToggleLocals.lua): gfxToggle: forgot to add 'medium' option for english localization, shame on me ..
21:56.03CodayusI log in, and my latency is ~150.  As I play, it gradually climbs to 1100+.  Relogging fixes it.  And it's seriously confusing me...
21:56.52NeronixSounds like a server problem
21:57.09hasteCodayus: easy to find out tho', disable all addons and have a go
21:57.18CodayusYeah, I guess.
21:57.25CodayusBut...playing...without addons...bleh
21:57.33CIA-1303cladhaire 07unstable * r1228 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua:
21:57.33CIA-13PerfectRaid:
21:57.33CIA-13* Added BarText to display hp or hpp. Needs options
21:57.33CIA-13* Changed each unit frame back to a frame
21:57.33CIA-13* Added a Button frames that is anchored to the name and the bar so only those regions are clickable
21:57.34CIA-13* Columns work for any raid that is greater than 20 members.
21:57.41CodayusAnd the increase is slow enough that it'll take a while to notice.  Oh well...
21:58.50NeriakDoes anyone know how to get the SVN to update the $Date$ whitout a new commit? I somehow forgot to set svn:keywords Date on one file and now the date string is empty :(
22:00.08kergothyou cant. being able to do so would violate cm principles.  everything needs to be tracked and have history, including property changes
22:00.50Neriakhm so how do I get it to update? I can't change anything in the lua, so it won't be modified and therefore not updated..
22:01.20CIA-1303cladhaire 07unstable * r1229 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua:
22:01.20CIA-13PerfectRaid:
22:01.20CIA-13* Moved the default sort function definition to :Initialize(), was creating them on every R_R_U
22:01.20CIA-13* Temporarily commented out the AURA_UDPATE event, since I'm not processing them at the moment.
22:01.20kergoth?
22:01.41NeriakI can only commit a file when it's modifed, right ?
22:01.54kergothand a property change is a modifciation. do a propedit and do a ci.
22:02.10Neriakoh ok, I'm trying this.
22:02.52CIA-1303neriak * r1230 10gfxToggle/gfxToggle.lua: gfxToggle: property change (svn:keywords Date)
22:03.02NeriakThanks kergoth :)
22:03.16Temwhere can I buy arrows at level 25?
22:03.29hastemost likely the nearest city
22:03.37Neriakat your local dealer
22:05.39Temwtf? splintertree doesn't have a general goods dealer?
22:07.42ckknighthey, what should I call the plugin tha attaches the experience + reputation bar to a panel?
22:08.28cladhaireckknight: My wet dream =)
22:08.48ckknightI'm doing it now, cladhaire
22:08.51cladhaireyay!
22:08.57ckknightthat's why I made JostleLib
22:09.31ckknightso I can register new "bars" to the adjustment without putting hacks in FuBar
22:10.17ckknighttheoretically, Titan could also put JostleLib in their code and use it fine
22:10.34kergothman, i need a second account to make cross faction transfers easier
22:10.42Temlol Tekcub the flight from Splintertree to Org gets real spammy from BW
22:10.48cladhaireBOO I need SetHitRectInsets now =(
22:10.52Tem"Target Monitoring Enabled"
22:10.56Tem"Target Monitoring Disabled"
22:10.58Tem"Target Monitoring Enabled"
22:11.00Tem"Target Monitoring Disabled"
22:11.02Tem"Target Monitoring Enabled"
22:11.03Tem"Target Monitoring Disabled"
22:11.07Temect
22:11.41CIA-1303neronix * r1231 10Lexan/ (. Lexan.lua Lexan.toc):
22:11.41CIA-13Lexan
22:11.41CIA-13- New version numbering based on SVN rev
22:11.41CIA-13- Added Date keyword to metadata
22:14.31CIA-1303neronix * r1232 10NanoStats/NanoStatsLocals.lua:
22:14.31CIA-13NanoStats
22:14.31CIA-13- New version numbering based on svn rev
22:14.31CIA-13- Date metadata in a clean format
22:14.31CIA-13(Thanks to ckknight for helping with the previous 2) changes
22:14.33CIA-13- Still nothing here. Just metadata :(
22:14.43ckknight:-)
22:14.59Neronixs/2) changes/2 changes)
22:15.19kergothone of my addons appears to be doing a /who on a regular basis, disrupting mine
22:15.23kergothhmm
22:16.09CIA-1303cladhaire 07unstable * r1233 10PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid/PerfectRaid.lua:
22:16.09CIA-13PerfectRaid
22:16.09CIA-13* Changed fram back to a button
22:16.11CIA-13* Will use SetHitRectInsets when we get it.
22:16.37kergothah, i bet its calltoarms
22:16.52NeronixIt is
22:16.54cladhairekergoth: Yeah
22:17.04Neronixdoes a /who on every single person who does a lfg/lfm
22:17.06cladhairesomeone put out a wholib or somethign liek that, that caches all who calls, and runs them when they can
22:17.13kergothqueuewho, it works well
22:18.37NeronixDoes a wysiwyg frame designer exist?
22:18.41phyberCodayus: maybe your ISP nerfed you and classed the traffic as P2P.  long you play, the more it's throttled.
22:19.05phybers/long/longer/
22:21.42CIA-1303neriak * r1234 10gfxToggle/ (gfxToggle.lua gfxToggle.toc gfxToggleLocals.lua): gfxToggle: updated to latest Metrognome API, changed major revision to R20
22:23.34Neriakhm I always thought svn:externals would update the externals to the most recent version, wouldn't it?
22:23.45kergothsvn up doesnt traverse svn:externals boundaries
22:23.51kergothyou need to cd into each subdir and update them
22:23.57kergoths/each subdir/each external subdir/
22:24.21Neriakoh
22:24.51Neriakkergoth: do i have to kind of register to purl so he knows me, act on me?
22:27.06*** part/#wowace gxam (n=gxam@cpe-66-69-196-26.austin.res.rr.com)
22:28.15Neriaktets
22:28.22Neriaks/tets/test
22:28.23ckknightI still need a name for the experience + rep bar thing for FuBar
22:28.27Neriak:(
22:28.42NeronixNeriak: you forgot the trailing /
22:28.48ckknighttets!
22:29.01Neriaks/tets/test/
22:29.03ckknights/tets/test/
22:29.04cladhaires/a/e/
22:29.09cladhaire=)
22:29.14NeronixNeriak: Too late to fix it now :P
22:29.27Neriakbah, this is teh suck!
22:29.33Neriaks/teh/the/
22:29.33ckknightYou're an asshole
22:29.37Neriakah
22:29.41ckknights/n asshole/ fine gentleman/
22:29.43Neriakkk, thanks :P
22:29.48Neriaklol
22:29.55ckknightlol
22:31.11Temhahaha
22:31.22TemI just killed a level 7 on my level 1 shaman
22:31.46cladhaireimba =)
22:31.52kergothNeriak, no, its just factoids
22:31.56kergoth~literal emulate kergoth
22:31.58purl"emulate kergoth" is "<action> hmms. || <action> wields a mean spiked metal cluebat || <reply> Why don't you go away, and come back when you've got some clue? || <action> hacks on OZ, OE, bitbake, and other projects. || <reply> Hmm... I know I was supposed to be doing something.  I wonder what it was."
22:33.01Temyay for heals and mana that regens faster than I can use it
22:37.40Neriak~literal emulate Neriak
22:37.41purl"emulate neriak" is "<reply> I wonder if there's some website to learn stuff ;) || <reply> you ... you ... you hairy Pothead. || <action> <3 unicode || <reply> All semicolons must die!"
22:37.56Neriakrofl
22:38.19Neronix~literal emulate Neronix
22:38.34kergothteach it.
22:38.36Neriak~comfort Neronix
22:38.37purlThere, there, Neronix.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
22:38.38kergoth~emulate Neronix is <reply> foo
22:38.39purlokay, kergoth
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22:39.26Neriakis there a command list or something , kergoth ?
22:39.55kergoth~tell neriak about help
22:39.58kergoth:P
22:40.26Neriakhehe I already did :)
22:40.41NeriakI have it in a query ;)
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22:41.11Neriak~karma kergoth
22:41.11purlkergoth has karma of 5
22:41.22Neriak~karma me
22:41.22purlme has karma of 2
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22:41.28Neriak~karma Neriak
22:41.28purlneriak has neutral karma
22:41.33Neriakpff
22:42.23kergoth~karma timriker
22:42.23purltimriker has karma of 6
22:42.26kergothaw
22:42.29kergothit used to be like 8587259275902
22:42.39Neriakhrhr
22:42.39kergoth(its tim riker's bot :)
22:42.51Neronix~emulate Neronix is <action> dies at the sight of patterns || <action> can't code for shit :(
22:42.52purlNeronix: please, watch your language.
22:42.59Neronix;_;
22:43.11Neronixoh well, it's a decent placeholder until I think of something better
22:43.25Neriak\o/
22:43.34kergoth~emulate neronix
22:43.35purlfoo
22:43.40Neriakhahahaha
22:43.53CIA-1303ckknight * r1235 10JostleLib/ (. API.html JostleLib.toc Lib/ Lib/JostleLib.lua README.txt): JostleLib - Initial commit.
22:43.54kergothhe told you to watch your language.. it didnt accept your change as a result
22:44.08Neronix~emulate Neronix is <action> dies at the sight of patterns
22:44.09purl...but emulate neronix is already something else...
22:44.17Neriakturn of the bad words filter kergoth :)
22:44.48Neronixhmm
22:45.09kergothit isnt my bot, and tim would never turn it off.
22:45.14kergothhe's quite conservative
22:45.32kergothpurl, no, emulate Neriak is <action> dies at the sight of patterns
22:45.33purlokay, kergoth
22:45.37kergothNeriak, no, is your friend
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22:46.14Neriakuhm .. I'm not = Neronix ;)
22:46.18Neronixlol
22:46.26Neronix~forget Neronix
22:46.26purlNeronix: i didn't have anything called 'neronix' to forget
22:46.34Neronix~forget emulate Neronix
22:46.34purlNeronix: i forgot emulate neronix
22:46.42Neronix~emulate Neronix is <action> dies at the sight of patterns
22:46.43purlokay, Neronix
22:46.48Neronix\o/
22:46.48CIA-1303ckknight * r1236 10FuBar/ (. FuBar.lua FuBar.toc PanelClass.lua README.txt): FuBar - updated for JostleLib
22:46.52Codayusphyber: Hmm, interesting idea.
22:47.01Neriak~emulate Neriak
22:47.02purlACTION dies at the sight of patterns
22:47.09Neriak:(((
22:47.10CIA-1303ckknight * r1237 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: FuBar_LocationFu - updated for JostleLib
22:47.14hasteyou know what really sucks? when you fuck up
22:47.28Neriak~forget emulate Neriak
22:47.28ckknight?
22:47.32hastelike.. reset every single permission set before you take a backup :----D
22:47.37ckknightlol
22:47.41ckknightsucks, man
22:47.54hasteyeah, it was a nice 45min clean-up
22:48.26hasteJuST: wups.. *maintaince mode* *send message to guild leader* *fixes*
22:48.27Neriakpurl, no, emulate Neriak is <action> All semicolons must die!
22:48.28purlokay, Neriak
22:48.34Neriak~emulate Neriak
22:48.36purlACTION All semicolons must die!
22:48.40Neriak:)
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23:00.56Temckknight: what changes do you have to make to actual plugins for Jostle?
23:01.03ckknightnone
23:01.07ckknightit was just LocationFu
23:01.13ckknightcause it changes the thing on the minimap
23:01.40Temah
23:04.33Temdamnit killing things that you shouldn't even be able to touch is hella fun
23:04.42phyberCodayus: I suggest it since it's happened to a few people over here, who play on cheap ISPs.
23:04.54phyberthey started throttling P2P and WoW traffic also got caught in it.
23:05.01Codayusphyber: Hmm, wonder how I'd test that...
23:05.08CodayusI've got earthlink dsl, incidentally.
23:06.16TemI can kill a level 6 without issue
23:08.24ckknightsvn slow for anyone else?
23:11.33hasteyes
23:12.01hasteor - it's done updating now
23:12.10kergothhmm, i like my new mage. havent played one in ages
23:12.15kergothjust need to figure out how to spec him
23:12.23kergotheither arcane/frost or arcane/fire
23:12.29hastefrost is fun :D
23:14.32Slaymanotravi_unitframes - partyframe doesn't hide on partyleave pretty annoying
23:14.50hasteSlayman: it doesn't?
23:14.53Slaymannope
23:15.07hasteI hope you haven't played with Visor on it :p
23:15.17haste'cause I use the SVN version, and it does here
23:15.28SlaymanI'm using this macro to leave: /script LeaveParty(); nope unvisorized
23:15.37Slaymanusing that version too
23:15.57kergothman i love those new enchanting bags
23:16.03kergothneed engineering ones
23:16.39hasteSlayman: give me a sec so I can torutre the first person I see online
23:17.19hasteit worked fine here.
23:17.29hasteYou're using the latest AUF (not that I think it matters) ?
23:18.11Slaymanfrom the same SVN
23:18.23hasteI hate errors I can't recreate :(
23:18.28Lucenditto
23:18.40hasteDo you have any other addon that plays with the party frames / settings?
23:18.42Luceni think i'm going to end up rewriting LUF without using AUF
23:18.50hasteLucen: You too?
23:18.54Lucenyeah
23:19.05hasteI'm currently working on the same with oUF
23:19.16kergothsomeone should modify flightmap/dhud to show the flightmap flight progress via the dhud casting bar
23:19.17Slaymanuhm
23:19.32Slaymanwatchdog
23:19.35Slaymandisabled mode
23:19.36LucenI have so many people report problems with Party and Partypets it's crazy
23:19.53ckknightokay, I figured out, I'll only let one column wrap, it'll work for multiple columns, and at the minimum, it'll be 100px wide
23:31.12hastehehe, todays chit chat in the guild channel is: what color you do I mix with to get X
23:43.26CIA-1303ckknight * r1239 10TabletLib/ (API.html Lib/TabletLib.lua): TabletLib - added wrapN. Only works when specified to 1 column out of the 4.
23:46.55CIA-1303ckknight * r1240 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed a bug making blank text do something.

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