| 00:00.19 | kergoth | indeed |
| 00:00.47 | ckknight | by reducing code, you're likely reducing bugs in that area as well |
| 00:01.29 | kergoth | simplicity should always be that which you strive for |
| 00:01.58 | ckknight | right |
| 00:02.00 | kergoth | bleh |
| 00:03.24 | ckknight | wtf |
| 00:03.30 | ckknight | what is the point of BestHitFu? |
| 00:05.32 | kergoth | ~laziness |
| 00:05.33 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 00:06.21 | kergoth | ~impatience |
| 00:06.22 | purl | IMPATIENCE: The anger you feel when the computer is being lazy. This makes you write programs that don't just react to your needs, but actually anticipate them. Or at least that pretend to. Hence, the second great virtue of a programmer. |
| 00:07.12 | kergoth | ~hubris |
| 00:07.14 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 00:07.37 | kergoth | ~fear of complexity |
| 00:07.38 | purl | FEAR OF COMPLEXITY: That which causes you to implement as little as possible, as simplicity is easier to fix. As well, that which prevents feature creep due to the environmental damage it causes. Hence, the fourth great virtue of a programmer. |
| 00:09.01 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1006 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - fixed typo. |
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| 00:19.21 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1007 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua PanelClass.lua): FuBar - added Thickness. |
| 00:21.21 | Elviso | ~sloth |
| 00:21.27 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 00:21.35 | Elviso | damn, don't have my fav |
| 00:22.06 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1008 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - sliders are now sticky to UIParent instead of what they appear to be attached to. |
| 00:28.42 | Elviso | wowace.com forums fubar'd or just me? |
| 00:29.00 | Elviso | hrmm k now it's fine |
| 00:32.52 | Elviso | but now wiki.wowace.com doesn't load |
| 00:36.06 | hyperChipmunk | svn is molasses too |
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| 00:40.12 | ckknight | lol, FuBar has almost total control of New & Updated |
| 00:40.13 | ckknight | hehe |
| 00:40.45 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 00:40.53 | hyperChipmunk | ppl gonna start getting annoyed, soon |
| 00:41.04 | hyperChipmunk | it totally blows the entire point of having the section |
| 00:41.08 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:41.20 | ckknight | then again, I do update pretty often |
| 00:41.40 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but you know some people are going to be like, 'he just updates to stay on the front page' |
| 00:41.49 | ckknight | that's a half truth |
| 00:42.11 | hyperChipmunk | and yea, the thing is, they're almost right ;) |
| 00:42.27 | ckknight | they should have like a FuBar New & Updated section |
| 00:42.28 | ckknight | just for me |
| 00:42.31 | ckknight | and my lackeys |
| 00:42.33 | hyperChipmunk | I've seen you time releases based on it |
| 00:42.35 | hyperChipmunk | 'lol |
| 00:42.40 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:42.42 | ckknight | yep |
| 00:42.48 | ckknight | I'm not denying it |
| 00:42.57 | ckknight | but it's only half true |
| 00:43.13 | ckknight | I just need 107 more favorites to be #1 |
| 00:43.18 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 00:49.45 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1009 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - added line to allow clickable tooltips. |
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| 01:12.09 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1010 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed a bug causing data vs. detachedData pollution. |
| 01:17.32 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1011 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed a bug that prevented wrapping. |
| 01:18.32 | ckknight | need advice |
| 01:19.06 | ckknight | should I make clickable tooltip buttons look different, look different when hovering, or just like every other line? |
| 01:28.10 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1012 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - clickable buttons now work. |
| 01:28.58 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1013 10FuBar/FuBarTooltip.lua: FuBar - fix data pollution with detached tooltips. |
| 01:31.30 | kergoth | jesus, my vim setup is pure insanity |
| 01:31.40 | kergoth | practically writes the code for me :P |
| 01:31.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:32.04 | kergoth | huzzah for reaching new heights of laziness |
| 01:32.21 | ckknight | I don't want to learn vim |
| 01:32.36 | kergoth | it can be pretty unpleasant at first |
| 01:32.42 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:32.46 | kergoth | but man, once you've got it, the level of efficiency is insane |
| 01:32.55 | ckknight | I don't like the idea of "modes" |
| 01:33.14 | kergoth | the things you can do in normal mode are a big part of what makes you so efficient |
| 01:33.21 | kergoth | consider navigation for example |
| 01:33.27 | kergoth | { and } jump between paragraphs |
| 01:33.40 | kergoth | [[ and ]] jump between blocks of braces, like in C code |
| 01:33.43 | kergoth | etc |
| 01:33.54 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:33.54 | kergoth | no moving around line by line unless thats exactly what you need |
| 01:34.44 | Wobble | Then for that there's hjkl =P |
| 01:35.00 | ckknight | why not use arrow keys? |
| 01:35.05 | kergoth | hehe. indeed. moving around line by line without taking your hands off the home row is nice |
| 01:35.09 | kergoth | :) |
| 01:35.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:35.47 | kergoth | i do have to admit, i use the arrow keys moer often than hjkl, just cause i'm not used to it |
| 01:35.48 | ckknight | hjkl doesn't intuitively mean left down up right to me |
| 01:35.50 | kergoth | need to fix that |
| 01:36.03 | kergoth | which is why you need to get used to it :) |
| 01:36.08 | Wobin_ | True... it's a matter of learning I guess, which is part and parcel of Vi |
| 01:36.14 | ckknight | I honestly don't see how something to the left of down means go up |
| 01:36.36 | kergoth | it isnt meant to be intuitive, its meant to be efficient |
| 01:36.56 | kergoth | some parts of vim manage both, but not all |
| 01:37.38 | ckknight | you know, I haven't seen many titan mods updated on WoWI recently |
| 01:37.44 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:43.00 | ckknight | well |
| 01:43.10 | ckknight | since people are asking for it, I thnk I'm gonna write RestFu |
| 01:43.24 | Wobin_ | rest state? |
| 01:44.03 | Wobin_ | infernoid needs to write ClamFu! |
| 01:44.09 | Wobin_ | For easy access to clamstats |
| 01:45.02 | ckknight | clam stats? |
| 01:45.48 | Wobin_ | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4890 |
| 01:53.40 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1014 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc README.txt): FuBar_TopScoreFu - updated TOC and README.txt |
| 01:54.09 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1015 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/ (FuBar_MicroMenuFu.toc README.txt): FuBar_MicroMenuFu - Updated TOC and README.txt |
| 02:06.37 | Elviso | hey ckknight, Fu feature request :) |
| 02:06.43 | ckknight | hit me |
| 02:06.55 | Elviso | "on left side" |
| 02:07.00 | ckknight | no. |
| 02:07.10 | Elviso | :\ |
| 02:07.12 | ckknight | ait |
| 02:07.13 | ckknight | wait* |
| 02:07.22 | ckknight | do you want independantly centerd text? |
| 02:07.27 | ckknight | centered* |
| 02:07.31 | Elviso | not sure what you mean there |
| 02:07.38 | ckknight | left, center, and right text |
| 02:07.41 | ckknight | cause I'm not putting that in |
| 02:07.49 | ckknight | but I coulld put "On left side" as a radio button |
| 02:07.53 | ckknight | that'd be a good idea |
| 02:07.57 | Elviso | that's what I meant I think |
| 02:08.01 | ckknight | okay |
| 02:08.07 | Elviso | like if I want volume and such justified left |
| 02:08.21 | Elviso | b/c right now, my "on right side" is about 1/4 the panel |
| 02:08.34 | Elviso | and thus makes my "centered" plugins....well, not centered |
| 02:08.52 | Elviso | but if I could move a couple to the left, then it'd be all nice and happy looking |
| 02:10.40 | ckknight | ah |
| 02:10.40 | ckknight | no |
| 02:10.53 | ckknight | that's what I meant by independantly centered text |
| 02:11.12 | Elviso | how is that different than "On left side" as a radio button |
| 02:13.19 | ckknight | very |
| 02:13.30 | ckknight | currently, only left and right exist |
| 02:13.38 | Elviso | http://img283.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fubard5ex.jpg |
| 02:13.39 | ckknight | centered is just a maniplation of the left |
| 02:14.20 | CIA-13 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r1016 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/ (BattlegroundFu.lua FuBar_BattlegroundFu.toc): |
| 02:14.20 | CIA-13 | FuBar_BattlegroundFu: |
| 02:14.20 | CIA-13 | - Added canHideText = true; didn't realize this wasn't default |
| 02:14.44 | Elviso | what is "On left side" as a radio button then? |
| 02:14.46 | Elviso | I'm confused |
| 02:16.39 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, I plan to turn that into cannotHideText |
| 02:16.51 | ckknight | Elviso, it's the opposite of On right side |
| 02:18.53 | Elviso | did you look at my screen shot? |
| 02:19.14 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:19.38 | ckknight | what about it? |
| 02:19.41 | Elviso | well |
| 02:20.00 | Elviso | I dont understand what you 'can' and 'can't' fix |
| 02:21.26 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1017 10FuBar/ (4 files): FuBar - made "On right side" a radio button. Added "On left side". |
| 02:21.58 | Elviso | hehe I'll check it out |
| 02:23.39 | Elviso | opensvn.csie.org? |
| 02:23.49 | Elviso | or is that the old one |
| 02:23.57 | ckknight | old one |
| 02:24.07 | ckknight | http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/FuBar |
| 02:24.16 | Elviso | thx |
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| 02:25.08 | ckknight | hey Tem |
| 02:25.11 | Tem | hey |
| 02:37.48 | Elviso | damn, that's not what I had in mind |
| 02:38.22 | Elviso | would it be too much trouble to add left-justification, or you don't believe it's needed? |
| 02:48.58 | ckknight | it is trouble |
| 02:50.11 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1018 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - refreshing on click now works properly. |
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| 02:55.31 | ckknight | omfg. |
| 02:55.38 | ckknight | I'm reading Titan_RestPlus |
| 02:55.42 | ckknight | some of the code is _horrible_ |
| 02:55.49 | ckknight | s/some/most/ |
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| 03:11.05 | Tem | much love for crippling poison in WSG |
| 03:12.54 | kergoth | indeed |
| 03:14.16 | Tem | I just did my first round with my new abilities |
| 03:14.34 | Tem | (my rogue is 25. last time I went into wsg he was 19) |
| 03:15.11 | Tem | since then, I've gotten distract, vanish, poisons, and I filled out my talents to make my ambush crit all the damn time |
| 03:15.36 | kergoth | hehe |
| 03:15.38 | kergoth | rogues are fun |
| 03:17.37 | Tem | I like it |
| 03:17.44 | Tem | I'm out of quests though... |
| 03:17.50 | Tem | I need to go find another zone |
| 03:18.12 | Tem | I think I'll head to ashenvale next |
| 03:19.10 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1019 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - Radio buttons no longer look pixelated. |
| 03:20.22 | Tem | svn update * |
| 03:20.29 | Tem | er... wrong window |
| 03:21.09 | hyperChipmunk | >8( |
| 03:21.17 | kergoth | ~/downloads$ wow_addon -d FuBar_BagFu-1.1.929.zip |
| 03:21.19 | kergoth | WOW_ADDON: Version 1.0.876 of FuBar - |cffffffffBag|r|cff00ff00Fu|r is already imported and tagged. |
| 03:21.19 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:21.44 | ckknight | ? |
| 03:22.19 | Tem | Fetching external item into 'FuBar_LocationFu\TouristLib' |
| 03:22.21 | Tem | wheee |
| 03:22.53 | kergoth | ckknight, .toc version wasnt updated :) my script uses that to do its update. no biggie, i just overrode it |
| 03:23.00 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:23.01 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:23.22 | ckknight | if I update a file in FuBar, it changes the $Revision$ in that file, not in the folder outright |
| 03:23.28 | ckknight | wish I knew a way around that... |
| 03:23.56 | kergoth | there isnt a way around it. it uses the revision of the file, by definition |
| 03:24.10 | kergoth | you could hack something with a trigger script, most likely, but itd be ugly as sin |
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| 03:34.07 | kergoth | damnit, people are fuckign up the market for certain products on my server, and i lack the bankroll atm to fix it |
| 03:34.11 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 03:35.07 | hyperChipmunk | heh, boss's fix to make the buttons not look pixelized was to make 'em pixel-SIZED |
| 03:35.14 | hyperChipmunk | genius! |
| 03:36.00 | Tem | ckknight: I get a crapload of errors on login |
| 03:36.00 | ckknight | I made them the size they are in the blp |
| 03:36.02 | ckknight | 16x16 |
| 03:36.09 | ckknight | Tem, did you exit wow? |
| 03:36.12 | ckknight | cause there are TOC changes |
| 03:36.29 | Tem | AmmoFu.lua:2: attempt to index global `TabletLib' (a nil value) |
| 03:36.29 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.29 | Tem | BagFu.lua:2: attempt to index global `DewdropLib' (a nil value) |
| 03:36.29 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.30 | Tem | ClockFu.lua:2: attempt to index global `DewdropLib' (a nil value) |
| 03:36.32 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.34 | Tem | DurabilityFu.lua:4: attempt to index global `TabletLib' (a nil value) |
| 03:36.34 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:36.36 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.38 | Tem | ExperienceFu.lua:2: attempt to index global `TabletLib' (a nil value) |
| 03:36.40 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.42 | ckknight | you didn't exit WoW, did you? |
| 03:36.42 | Tem | HonorFu.lua:3: attempt to index global |
| 03:36.45 | Tem | yes I did exit wow |
| 03:36.45 | ckknight | cause those are in FuBar |
| 03:36.46 | Tem | I restarted wow |
| 03:36.54 | Tem | I FUCKING CLOSED WOW AND RESTAREDED IT |
| 03:36.54 | ckknight | did you install the recent FuBar? |
| 03:37.02 | Tem | they are all from the svn, I think |
| 03:37.09 | Tem | please hold |
| 03:37.16 | Tem | oh lol |
| 03:37.20 | hyperChipmunk | tem |
| 03:37.24 | Tem | my FuBar isn't from the svn |
| 03:37.25 | hyperChipmunk | that's you |
| 03:37.28 | Tem | rest of it is |
| 03:37.28 | ckknight | next time use your indoor voice. |
| 03:37.48 | hyperChipmunk | this is one of the svn commits that actually does work =x |
| 03:38.05 | Tem | if you couldn't tell by my rediculous spelling, then you lose |
| 03:38.26 | hyperChipmunk | ridiculous* |
| 03:39.22 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 03:39.34 | Codayus | Getting an error with the current FuBar off CVS...about a tooltip...hm |
| 03:39.53 | ckknight | what's the error? |
| 03:40.33 | Codayus | FuBarToolttip.lua 1644: attempt to call method GetFontSizePercent (a nil value) |
| 03:40.39 | Codayus | Thoughts? :-) |
| 03:41.02 | ckknight | oh |
| 03:41.03 | ckknight | my bad |
| 03:41.13 | Tem | hehe, CVS |
| 03:41.19 | Codayus | Uh... |
| 03:41.22 | Codayus | You know what I meant. |
| 03:41.24 | Codayus | I'm sleepy. |
| 03:41.39 | Tem | yeah, I get the same error |
| 03:41.46 | Tem | the panel doesn't even show |
| 03:41.49 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1020 10FuBar/ (FuBarTooltip.lua FuBarUtils.lua): FuBar - FuBarToolttip.lua 1644: attempt to call method GetFontSizePercent (a nil value) |
| 03:41.50 | Codayus | Yep |
| 03:42.21 | Codayus | A /reload and... |
| 03:42.23 | ckknight | okay, just update to that |
| 03:42.23 | Codayus | ...it's fixed. |
| 03:42.28 | Codayus | Now that's customer service! |
| 03:42.53 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:43.06 | ckknight | hey, anyone know when UnitLevel("player") stops working? |
| 03:43.16 | ckknight | the event |
| 03:43.37 | ckknight | it's close to PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 03:43.37 | ckknight | but at PLAYER_LOGOUT, it stops working |
| 03:48.13 | Tem | terrific cladhaire |
| 03:48.16 | Tem | you broke PR |
| 03:48.20 | Codayus | Yep |
| 03:48.24 | Codayus | JUST discovered that. |
| 03:48.30 | Tem | PerfectRaid.lua:123: attempt to index global `AceHookLib' (a nil value) |
| 03:48.31 | Codayus | Revert back a version. :-/ |
| 03:48.39 | Tem | don't have time |
| 03:48.41 | Tem | WSG! |
| 03:48.53 | Codayus | Heh |
| 03:50.19 | Tem | PerfectRaid.lua:82: attempt to index field `opt' (a nil value) |
| 03:50.38 | kergoth | SpecialTalent is pretty nice |
| 03:50.44 | ckknight | what is it? |
| 03:50.55 | ckknight | one of Tekkub's? |
| 03:52.08 | kergoth | some addon i saw on curse. talent tree replacement |
| 03:52.18 | kergoth | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=3908 |
| 03:52.33 | ckknight | oh |
| 03:57.35 | Wobin_ | That looks nice |
| 03:57.45 | Wobin_ | Except I would have called it "Talentless Hack" |
| 03:58.45 | Wobin_ | or Talent'ed |
| 03:58.45 | kergoth | ? |
| 03:58.49 | Wobin_ | And made it a line editor |
| 03:58.49 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1021 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu - fixed nil menu bug. |
| 04:10.55 | hyperChipmunk | aoh that does look nice |
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| 04:22.15 | Tem | cladhaire: you around? |
| 04:23.25 | ckknight__ | you know, I realized that I could theoretically turn FuBar into a library in its own right |
| 04:23.36 | ckknight__ | granted, I probably won't, cause it's kinda pointless |
| 04:23.40 | ckknight__ | but it's still fin thinking about it |
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| 04:28.34 | Tekkub | erf |
| 04:28.53 | Tekkub | problem with that boss: savedvars |
| 04:29.17 | Tekkub | otherwise yea, tho you'd have to lay down all sorts of shit on how to use the libraries too |
| 04:30.00 | Tem | ckknight_: the um... sliders |
| 04:30.03 | Tem | ckknight_: they are fat |
| 04:30.06 | Tem | very fat |
| 04:30.10 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:31.07 | ckknight_ | omfg. |
| 04:31.20 | Tem | ckknight_: FuBarTooltip.lua:1448: attempt to call method `GetColor' (a nil value) |
| 04:31.39 | Tem | ckknight_: When I opened the Color Picker thing for a detatched tooltip |
| 04:31.49 | ckknight_ | what plugin? |
| 04:31.59 | Tem | um.. BatFu |
| 04:32.05 | hyperChipmunk | ~!@!!!!!!!!!@@ |
| 04:32.16 | hyperChipmunk | Tem: I love you |
| 04:32.21 | Tem | ? |
| 04:32.52 | hyperChipmunk | someone who's at least somewhat knowledgeable using my addon =P |
| 04:33.06 | hyperChipmunk | so if there's problems, I can get some real information |
| 04:33.07 | Tekkub | rssfwd hates me |
| 04:33.25 | Tekkub | either that, or you guys made 500+ commits while I was at work |
| 04:33.29 | hyperChipmunk | ~I hate you too |
| 04:33.31 | purl | You hate you too? |
| 04:33.31 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1022 10FuBar/FuBarTooltip.lua: FuBar - FuBarTooltip.lua:1448: attempt to call method `GetColor' (a nil value) |
| 04:33.40 | Tekkub | ~you suck |
| 04:33.43 | purl | Thank you! That will be $5 |
| 04:33.43 | hyperChipmunk | boss was going for r1000 |
| 04:33.47 | hyperChipmunk | ~you sux |
| 04:33.48 | purl | no you fucking suck hyperchipmunk! |
| 04:33.54 | Tekkub | kek |
| 04:34.06 | Tekkub | and too bad I got the first 1k, and I got 666 and 777 |
| 04:34.21 | Tem | ckknight_: fix the sliders in DewDrop |
| 04:34.25 | Tem | they are fugly |
| 04:34.35 | Tekkub | that means I'm... 1443 better than bossy |
| 04:34.44 | ckknight_ | Tem, you're fugly |
| 04:34.51 | Tem | that's besides the point |
| 04:34.56 | Tekkub | we're ALL fugly on the inside! |
| 04:34.58 | Tekkub | wait no... |
| 04:35.02 | ckknight_ | saying something is ugly doesn't help in the slightest |
| 04:35.03 | Tekkub | taht's pink on the inside |
| 04:35.06 | ckknight_ | I need specific things to change |
| 04:35.13 | Tekkub | make it not fugly |
| 04:35.25 | Tekkub | there, specific milesstones |
| 04:35.45 | Tekkub | v1.2: not fugly ... v1.3 not fucksmudgy |
| 04:35.56 | Tekkub | v1.4 self-lubricating |
| 04:36.07 | Tekkub | v1.5 ribbed for the user's pleasure |
| 04:36.24 | Tekkub | v1.6 self-debugging for the author's pleasure |
| 04:36.57 | hyperChipmunk | v1.7 self-replicating for the pleasure of the users' entire raid? |
| 04:37.16 | Tekkub | no chip: did you never take an engineering ethics class? |
| 04:37.48 | Tekkub | if it self replicates soon it'll take over the world and smudge out human life in one big blissful orgasm |
| 04:38.04 | Tekkub | everyone will just go "splooge" and the human race will end |
| 04:38.16 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 04:38.23 | Tekkub | wait no, that was Neon Genesis Evangelica |
| 04:38.24 | hyperChipmunk | well we should avoid that at all costs |
| 04:38.33 | Tekkub | (sp?) |
| 04:38.34 | hyperChipmunk | it sounds rather messy |
| 04:38.41 | ckknight_ | mmm.... gray goo |
| 04:38.53 | Tekkub | gray goo *splurt* |
| 04:39.09 | Tekkub | seriously, the world will end of our own cummy creations |
| 04:39.09 | Tem | great... |
| 04:39.18 | ckknight_ | cummy? |
| 04:39.21 | Tem | the latest svn mendy doesn't play nice with the latest pt |
| 04:39.24 | Tekkub | be it grey goo or children blowing each other up |
| 04:39.25 | Tem | (from the svn) |
| 04:39.58 | Tekkub | then moon sucks, PT still works the same it always did, it's just embeddable too |
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| 04:48.59 | Tem | Mendeleev.lua:182: attempt to index global `PeriodicTable' (a nil value) |
| 04:52.19 | Tem | yo Tekkub |
| 04:52.28 | Tem | wtf is a FOM plugin doing in PT? |
| 04:52.38 | Tekkub | what you just noticed it? |
| 04:52.48 | Tekkub | it's been there for like 3 monhs |
| 04:53.14 | Tekkub | FOM's food lists are quite inacurate, missing lots of food |
| 05:03.27 | Tem | I don't give a crap how long it's been there |
| 05:03.30 | Tem | it doesn't belong |
| 05:03.34 | Tem | and I don't want it loading |
| 05:05.09 | Tekkub | then delete it you tard |
| 05:05.48 | Tekkub | besides it' just hooks FOM's feed function, if it's there, and doesn't do anything until the first time you feed |
| 05:07.23 | Tekkub | aw, DudeRop menus don't do the scrolly scrolly like the tooltips Bossman? (Valley of sorrows) |
| 05:09.09 | Tem | wtf |
| 05:09.16 | Tem | Warlock pets can see through stealth? |
| 05:10.00 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 05:10.03 | Tekkub | stupid rogue |
| 05:10.15 | hyperChipmunk | paranoia |
| 05:10.20 | Tem | imp |
| 05:10.27 | Tem | imps don't fucking have paranoia |
| 05:10.47 | Tem | and imps that are lower level than me shouldn't be fucking able to fucking see me from like 20 fucking yards |
| 05:10.56 | Tem | that's fucking bullshit |
| 05:11.11 | Tekkub | oh just go cry for a nerf on the oboards like everyone else |
| 05:14.53 | Tem | oh, I see what it is |
| 05:15.18 | Tem | pets that are trying to attack you before you stealth ignore stealth until they are called off |
| 05:15.29 | Tem | and that *is* bullshit |
| 05:15.54 | Sokurai | Indeed |
| 05:15.57 | Sokurai | Horrilbe in AB |
| 05:16.12 | Sokurai | Horrible* |
| 05:16.33 | Sokurai | Hunters can sit at the Mill and sick their pets on rogues like 300 yards away :p |
| 05:17.11 | Tem | I *hate* hunters |
| 05:17.27 | Tem | with a capital fucking 'H' |
| 05:21.20 | Tem | test |
| 05:21.26 | Tem | did anyone see that? |
| 05:22.48 | Cairenn | nope |
| 05:23.14 | kergoth | looks like we'll have our first 100 degree days of the year next week. joy. |
| 05:24.01 | hyperChipmunk | <3 tem |
| 05:31.01 | Tem | ckknight: make your sliders look like the slider on the color chooser |
| 05:31.15 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:32.00 | hyperChipmunk | oh, that'd be nice |
| 05:32.37 | Tekkub | hey bossman, make menus scrolly just like the tooltips if they too long for the screen? |
| 05:33.12 | Tem | I hate the names that people |
| 05:33.16 | Tem | create |
| 05:33.23 | Tem | for their twinks |
| 05:33.27 | Tem | "Wootcakes" |
| 05:33.34 | Tem | "Lolzorz" |
| 05:41.33 | Cairenn|sleep | night guys |
| 05:46.08 | Tem | nigt Cair |
| 05:49.30 | Tem | "Roflmeow" |
| 05:50.25 | hyperChipmunk | sweet dreams Cairenn|lurking |
| 05:51.25 | ckknight | okay, for RestFu, should I make no rest red and full rest green, or opposite? |
| 05:52.23 | Tekkub | hrm.... |
| 05:52.40 | Tekkub | < enough to get level, red |
| 05:52.50 | Tekkub | >= enough to get level, yellow |
| 05:52.56 | Tekkub | >=100, green |
| 05:53.12 | Tekkub | * 100%, it goes to 105% of course |
| 05:53.18 | Tekkub | *150% |
| 05:53.25 | Tekkub | fuck it, bedtime, can't type |
| 05:55.09 | ckknight | you know, RestFu was rather easy to write |
| 05:55.28 | Tekkub | yea it is |
| 05:55.45 | Tekkub | like TheLowDown, I like tiny addons that work so beautifully |
| 05:56.00 | Wobin_ | What's TLD do? |
| 05:56.07 | Tekkub | scrolls text |
| 05:56.26 | Tekkub | Dilbert's Boss: "Look at me, I'm scrolling text!" |
| 05:56.56 | Tekkub | it resets your chatframes to the bottom after a 20sec timeout from your last scrolly on the window |
| 05:57.01 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 05:57.18 | Tekkub | and it actually SCROLLS to the bottom instead of using the jump function |
| 05:57.32 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 05:57.34 | hyperChipmunk | that's so cool |
| 05:57.39 | hyperChipmunk | I wonder who thought of doing it like that |
| 05:57.52 | Tekkub | no credit for you, you didn't write the addon :P |
| 05:58.23 | hyperChipmunk | and yea, I agree |
| 05:58.34 | hyperChipmunk | CRDelay/CRDelayFu is one of my best addons =) |
| 05:58.40 | Tekkub | bah, I should throw in the roast and head to bed |
| 05:58.53 | Tekkub | whatdatdew? |
| 05:59.04 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1023 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed wrapping bug. |
| 05:59.20 | hyperChipmunk | you don't pvp, so you probably don't care |
| 05:59.33 | Tekkub | oh, yea true, stupid PvP ruining the game |
| 05:59.38 | hyperChipmunk | but after you die several times in a short period of time, you start to accumulate a delay before you can rez |
| 05:59.46 | Tekkub | what's this world coming to? |
| 06:00.05 | hyperChipmunk | in pve, you just wait until it's done |
| 06:00.54 | hyperChipmunk | but in pvp, where sometimes it's tactically advantageous to run to your corpse and rez there instead of waiting for the spirit rez at the graveyard, knowing whether your body-rez is going to have a delay is nice |
| 06:01.31 | hyperChipmunk | since you can normally only see that delay when you're by your corpse, you have to go out of range of the spirit healer most of the time to see it |
| 06:01.52 | hyperChipmunk | it's just a simple GetCorpseRecoveryDelay() function to get the value |
| 06:02.25 | hyperChipmunk | but by default the game doesn't show you that value unless you're in position to accept a rez |
| 06:02.46 | hyperChipmunk | and it has that lousy minute-level precision when it's over 60s |
| 06:03.04 | hyperChipmunk | so this just makes a bar for FuBar that displays that counter at all times |
| 06:03.11 | hyperChipmunk | it's incredibly handy |
| 06:05.30 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1024 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed grid layout bug. |
| 06:05.39 | ckknight | woot! |
| 06:05.40 | ckknight | 1024! |
| 06:05.46 | ckknight | that's _totally_ better than 1000 |
| 06:06.12 | ckknight | will anyone deny that? |
| 06:06.37 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 06:06.43 | hyperChipmunk | ~pat ckknight |
| 06:06.44 | purl | ACTION pats ckknight and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 06:07.06 | Tekkub | I like 59049 myself |
| 06:07.10 | ckknight | why's that? |
| 06:07.17 | Tekkub | 3^10 ^^ |
| 06:07.27 | hyperChipmunk | I've always been a fan of eleventeen |
| 06:07.34 | Tekkub | Twelvty |
| 06:07.41 | hyperChipmunk | that's a good one too |
| 06:08.10 | Tekkub | erf, mayby I can churn out MatriculaLib tomorrow and make ModMenu not suck |
| 06:08.20 | ckknight | what'll it do? |
| 06:08.22 | ckknight | 1729 is one of my favorite numbers |
| 06:08.37 | ckknight | now if you're fond of math, do you know why? |
| 06:08.47 | Tekkub | it'll be a simple mod registrar, like myaddons ultra slimmed down |
| 06:08.51 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:09.02 | Tekkub | you register up to three values for your mod |
| 06:09.12 | Tekkub | a category, and they WON'T be prodefined |
| 06:09.20 | ckknight | why not? |
| 06:09.25 | Tekkub | a function to call on click, for opening GUI or such |
| 06:09.45 | Tekkub | cause predefineds always miss some category that makes sense |
| 06:10.03 | Tekkub | I HATEHATHEHATE Ace's pulled-str8-from-myAddons categories |
| 06:10.08 | ckknight | that's easy to handle, though |
| 06:10.17 | ckknight | basically, just keep adding needed categories |
| 06:10.17 | Tekkub | all mine end up "interface" cause they suck |
| 06:10.24 | ckknight | if a category doesn't exist, assume other |
| 06:10.36 | Tekkub | yea true, but not restricting will make it simpler really |
| 06:10.40 | ckknight | that way, newer versions that have the "apple" category will just be "other" for the old version |
| 06:10.47 | ckknight | I disagree |
| 06:10.53 | ckknight | cause what if you want to sort them or something? |
| 06:10.58 | Tekkub | the old version gets upgraded, embed and all :) |
| 06:11.06 | ckknight | by having predefineds, you also can do localization |
| 06:11.08 | Tekkub | then sort, it's not hard to sort |
| 06:11.32 | ckknight | otherwise you have to stick to one language or whatnot |
| 06:11.39 | Tekkub | anyway, and a functio to draw a menu, which of course DudeRop is your option :) |
| 06:11.43 | ckknight | I really think that predefineds are the way to go |
| 06:11.46 | ckknight | Dewdrop, goddammit |
| 06:12.13 | Tekkub | anyway, the point is to make the addon registrar part of myaddons an embed so everyone who wants can support it easily |
| 06:12.29 | Tekkub | and the GUI will just pull it's info from the embed |
| 06:12.39 | Tekkub | so many people can use the info if they wanted to |
| 06:13.18 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:13.31 | Tekkub | you think I should allow for optional metadata stuff too? I'll prolly set it up to pull from the TOC the non- "X-" items like slou added for us |
| 06:13.45 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.48 | Wobin_ | sure |
| 06:13.57 | Tekkub | but allowing a bunch of optional metadafields could be nice |
| 06:14.16 | Tekkub | and NOT throw shitty errors like myAddons does with all my ace'd modules :P |
| 06:15.41 | ckknight | I still think that predefined categories are the way to go |
| 06:16.04 | ckknight | I mean, if it's an embedded lib, then the newer version with the recently added category will trump anyway |
| 06:17.13 | ckknight | if you have custom defined ones, then people will have one category for every addon |
| 06:17.17 | Tekkub | maybe, we'll see, in the end the category is prolly gonna be just like all the other optional metadata |
| 06:17.22 | ckknight | with no localization whatsoever |
| 06:17.30 | ckknight | that'd be good |
| 06:18.00 | Tekkub | meh, localization is for pansies! |
| 06:18.04 | Tekkub | lern2engrish |
| 06:18.21 | ckknight | no. |
| 06:18.47 | Tekkub | <-- has no sympathy for "funny talk" |
| 06:19.24 | Tekkub | zeee best ca na da ees french ac na da ! |
| 06:20.05 | Tekkub | seriously tho, start food sleep bye! |
| 06:24.00 | Tem | Tekkub: |
| 06:24.05 | Tem | predefines |
| 06:24.11 | ckknight | alright, RestFu has absolutely no options |
| 06:24.12 | Tem | only use TOC values |
| 06:24.17 | ckknight | and I honestly don't see a need. |
| 06:24.51 | Tem | # X-Category: Raid |
| 06:24.56 | ckknight | that'd be good, imho |
| 06:25.18 | Tem | # X-Category-frFR: <whatever the fuck the french call "Raid"> |
| 06:25.34 | ckknight | gah |
| 06:25.39 | ckknight | predefines! |
| 06:25.56 | Tem | then calling the GetMetadata function will do the translation for you |
| 06:25.59 | ckknight | if you have it called Raid, then in game you'll see the French word for Raid anyway |
| 06:26.11 | ckknight | so why have X-Category-frFR? |
| 06:26.29 | Tem | it won't auto translate for you |
| 06:26.33 | ckknight | why not? |
| 06:26.38 | Tem | oh, I see what you mean |
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| 06:26.49 | Tem | yeah, that's one route |
| 06:27.02 | Tem | but yeah, Predefines |
| 06:27.10 | ckknight | if you have predefines, it'd be for the best |
| 06:27.16 | ckknight | and hell, you can always add more |
| 06:27.20 | Tem | and Tekkub, the Ace2 category list is probably what you should use |
| 06:27.24 | ckknight | nothing is causing a freeze |
| 06:30.54 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1025 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - clicking a parent frame now hides the tooltip. |
| 06:31.41 | Tekkub | actually no, the more I think about it a non-predefined makes perfect sense BECAUSE of categories |
| 06:31.57 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1026 10FuBar/FuBarUtils.lua: FuBar - changed FuBarUtils.FormatDurationCondensed() to show days as separate from hours/minutes/seconds. |
| 06:32.02 | Tekkub | I'm basically assuming that the mod is gonna be registering LOCALIZED metada |
| 06:32.11 | Tekkub | and the category is part of that |
| 06:32.31 | Tekkub | sure, provide people a sample ilst with translations, but don't force em into it |
| 06:32.46 | ckknight | so you have 50 different addons with 50 different categories |
| 06:32.58 | ckknight | because of typos or hubris |
| 06:33.23 | Tekkub | and I think I'll pull all metadat from the TOC files, and keep with the teme of "X-<field>-locale |
| 06:33.55 | Tekkub | so if a localized one is available, use it first |
| 06:34.24 | ckknight | okay, answer me this: why not have predefined categories to choose from? |
| 06:34.37 | Tekkub | because I think that's too restrictive |
| 06:34.46 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1027 10FuBar_RestFu/ (6 files): FuBar_RestFu - Initial commit. |
| 06:35.01 | ckknight | Tekkub, you want it to be restrictive |
| 06:35.09 | Tekkub | "Bac mods" ... actionbar? petbar? FuBar? WTF? |
| 06:35.09 | ckknight | so that you can properly categorize and organize them |
| 06:35.27 | Tem | Tekkub: you *need* predefines |
| 06:35.31 | ckknight | yes |
| 06:35.35 | ckknight | you definitely need them |
| 06:35.40 | Tem | or else you will very rarely have 2 addons in the same category |
| 06:35.50 | Tem | which will completely defeat the point of having them |
| 06:36.20 | Tekkub | :P I will provide a sample list and strongly encourage the use of them, but I'm not going to restrict it |
| 06:36.24 | ckknight | yea, if everything has its own category, which will be what will happen, then why have a category at all? |
| 06:36.25 | Tem | NO! |
| 06:36.30 | Tekkub | besides to be frank |
| 06:36.40 | Tekkub | noone fucking wriote for ModMenu before |
| 06:36.49 | Tekkub | I don't expect anyone but me to use this either |
| 06:36.57 | Tem | surely there are people in this channel who arn't retarded |
| 06:36.59 | Tem | speak up! |
| 06:37.07 | ckknight | I have several arguments for you, Tekkub |
| 06:37.07 | Tekkub | so it still falls in the "writing mods for my use" field of shit I write |
| 06:38.21 | ckknight | 1) by having predefines, you can localize them without hassle. You don't want to run a German client and have a "Table" category and a "Tisch" category |
| 06:38.46 | ckknight | 2) Typos will cause multiple categories needlessly |
| 06:39.01 | ckknight | 3) If a new category strikes your fancy, nothing is preventing you from adding it |
| 06:39.12 | ckknight | 4) If someone uses a future category, just assume "other" |
| 06:39.21 | Tekkub | if a mod's category isn't localized I'd wager the rest of the mod isn't either and the user should contact the author with translations if they want that fixed |
| 06:39.33 | Tekkub | 2) copy paste from suggested list |
| 06:39.33 | ckknight | 5) also, with predefines, you can have a description of a category as well |
| 06:39.45 | Tekkub | 3) so? users don't like it they can bitch |
| 06:39.47 | Tem | 6) I said so |
| 06:39.50 | Tekkub | they're good at that |
| 06:39.50 | ckknight | e.g. Bar Mods can be described as "Mods that do something with Bar" |
| 06:40.18 | Tekkub | 4) other is useless they fall under unknown :P |
| 06:40.26 | ckknight | whatever |
| 06:40.28 | Tekkub | 5) why does it need a description |
| 06:40.33 | ckknight | because it can! |
| 06:40.37 | Tekkub | 6) I don't give a fuck what you said :P |
| 06:40.45 | ckknight | you're a dick |
| 06:40.58 | Tem | damnit Tekkub |
| 06:40.59 | Tekkub | Tem's a dick too, so mutal dickery |
| 06:41.08 | Tem | you need to do it our way |
| 06:41.09 | Tekkub | 6 wasn't directoed at you boos |
| 06:41.13 | Tekkub | boss* |
| 06:41.22 | Tem | so we can use it in Ace instead of the current system |
| 06:41.29 | Tekkub | Tem, if you want it done your way they YOU write it |
| 06:41.43 | Tem | I don't have f'ing time |
| 06:42.02 | Tem | I have like 6 big projects on my plate plus school |
| 06:42.07 | Tekkub | I'm open to suggestions and whatnot as always, but in the end I'm gonna write my code the way I want it to behave |
| 06:42.22 | ckknight | I follow the market |
| 06:42.26 | Tekkub | and the best part of ModMenu was it's adaptability |
| 06:42.31 | ckknight | its |
| 06:42.39 | Tekkub | the market doesn't pay me, I don't give a fuck about the market |
| 06:43.14 | Tem | a;lsijf;alskjf!~ |
| 06:43.14 | ckknight | because it's an embedded lib, if you add a new category, no harm no foul |
| 06:43.20 | Tem | It's adaptable |
| 06:43.31 | Tekkub | I have yet to see a cent from anyone over any mod I've written, so in the end my code boils down to my enjoyment, plain and simple |
| 06:43.37 | Tem | adding a cat is *child's play* |
| 06:43.39 | Tekkub | and I don't want restrictions |
| 06:43.53 | Tem | ;lf;ah;lsdf adsf |
| 06:44.11 | Tem | Get the cock out of your ass and pay attention to logic |
| 06:44.32 | Tem | You *need* restrictions or the categories will be *useless* |
| 06:44.52 | ckknight | agreed |
| 06:45.15 | Tekkub | Tem, you don't like my plan, write it yourself |
| 06:45.27 | Tem | I don't have time |
| 06:45.35 | Tekkub | then sod the fuck off |
| 06:46.12 | hyperChipmunk | whoa, hi guys |
| 06:46.24 | hyperChipmunk | ~chippersnack Tem |
| 06:46.25 | purl | ACTION feeds Tem some nuts. |
| 06:46.30 | hyperChipmunk | ~chippersnack Tekkub |
| 06:46.31 | purl | ACTION feeds Tekkub some nuts. |
| 06:46.31 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: this is adult time |
| 06:46.35 | Tem | go play with your toys |
| 06:46.53 | Tem | Tekkub: *ARRGARAGSRA! |
| 06:46.55 | Tem | * |
| 06:47.02 | hyperChipmunk | oh very adultish |
| 06:48.37 | Tem | =P |
| 06:48.44 | hyperChipmunk | all y'all take yourselves too seriously |
| 06:49.49 | ckknight | hey hyperChipmunk |
| 06:50.04 | hyperChipmunk | greetings, fellow level-headed programmer |
| 06:53.47 | Tem | ckknight: did you fix the dewdrop sliders yet? |
| 06:54.00 | ckknight | no, I have to do another thing to bribe Elviso |
| 06:54.03 | ckknight | I'll do that next, though |
| 06:54.12 | Tem | lol |
| 06:54.32 | Tem | how are most fb addons creating drop downs? |
| 06:54.36 | Tem | are they using the default ui? |
| 06:56.44 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r1028 10FuBar_ModMenu/ (Core.lua FuBar_ModMenu.toc PredefinedMenus.lua): |
| 06:56.44 | CIA-13 | FuBar_ModMenu |
| 06:56.44 | CIA-13 | - Tweaked to use DudeRop for menus now (no fucking 32 item limit!) |
| 06:56.44 | CIA-13 | - Unknown Mods is now a single categroy, but will probably run off screen for you... boss should make menus scroll like his tooltips do to compensate for this... ^^ |
| 06:57.50 | hyperChipmunk | ok I just finished reading all that crap |
| 06:58.34 | Tem | alright this has been buggin me for a while |
| 06:58.34 | hyperChipmunk | now I'm slightly biased because NOBODY ever makes a battlegrounds category |
| 06:58.43 | Tem | All you people use Drop Down Menus wrong |
| 06:58.45 | hyperChipmunk | ok, I'm more than slightly biased |
| 06:58.56 | hyperChipmunk | NOBODY EVER MAKES A FREAKING BATTLEGROUNDS CATEGORY |
| 06:59.02 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: I have a BG cat in the Ace2 list |
| 06:59.07 | hyperChipmunk | oh ok |
| 06:59.10 | hyperChipmunk | then go withthose |
| 06:59.13 | hyperChipmunk | +D |
| 06:59.17 | Tem | um... duh? |
| 06:59.18 | hyperChipmunk | naw, seriously |
| 06:59.27 | ckknight | what're the Ace2 categories? |
| 06:59.28 | Tem | This is what I suggested 20 minutes ago |
| 06:59.32 | ckknight | does that include BG? |
| 06:59.37 | Tem | check in the Ace Dev forum |
| 06:59.40 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:59.47 | hyperChipmunk | just make people want to use the defaults |
| 07:00.06 | ckknight | goddammit, Tekkub, it's Dewdrop, not DudeRop |
| 07:00.14 | hyperChipmunk | no sorting for anything but the default stuff, for example |
| 07:00.27 | Tekkub | which is what I plan, I'm just not going to restict them to the ones I give |
| 07:00.31 | hyperChipmunk | and don't sort alphabetically |
| 07:00.40 | hyperChipmunk | sort alphabetically among the default |
| 07:00.48 | Tekkub | ModMenu isn't sorted, the base menu is laid out in a table |
| 07:00.50 | hyperChipmunk | THEN alphabetically from 'the rest' |
| 07:00.54 | hyperChipmunk | well, whatever |
| 07:00.58 | hyperChipmunk | I'm just giving you an idea |
| 07:01.01 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: also, WoWI will have a BG category under Ace when there are enough addons to warrant it |
| 07:01.03 | Tekkub | yarr |
| 07:01.21 | Tekkub | one isn't enough? |
| 07:01.23 | hyperChipmunk | make anything non-default take a backseat to the defaults |
| 07:01.32 | Tekkub | it's a BG mod, where's my category bitch! |
| 07:01.43 | hyperChipmunk | I'm going to convert RaidMap +) |
| 07:01.53 | hyperChipmunk | and CRDelay standalone |
| 07:01.55 | hyperChipmunk | two mods! |
| 07:01.56 | Tem | you want at least 2-3 addons in a category |
| 07:02.02 | Tem | and an empty category looks *bad* |
| 07:02.13 | Tekkub | yea, stuff that's not in the base menu's cats would prolly go in a "others" cat, which would branch out by those cats |
| 07:02.29 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: when we were creating the Category list for wowi, we went from the Ace2 category list leaving out the ones that didn't have more than 2 addons to go in it |
| 07:02.37 | hyperChipmunk | yea, make people pay a price for nondefault categories |
| 07:02.51 | hyperChipmunk | until the next lib is released, and you might add some sensible defaults that you missed |
| 07:02.55 | hyperChipmunk | and then they get promoted |
| 07:03.07 | Tekkub | well the user can change the menu layout to fit their needs, that's been in modmenu for a looooong time |
| 07:03.10 | hyperChipmunk | so if enough demand for a category exists, it won't hurt anything |
| 07:03.17 | Tekkub | cause people didn't like my default ones |
| 07:03.26 | Tekkub | so I didn't restrict them to it! |
| 07:03.58 | hyperChipmunk | and if someone makes a category name that's the same as their mod name |
| 07:03.58 | ckknight | maybe you just suck at choosing defaults |
| 07:03.59 | Tekkub | okey, must really sleep now |
| 07:04.00 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:04.03 | hyperChipmunk | kick them in the balls |
| 07:04.06 | hyperChipmunk | automatically |
| 07:04.09 | Tem | wait wait |
| 07:04.09 | hyperChipmunk | no questions asked |
| 07:04.12 | ckknight | FuBar category! |
| 07:04.19 | Tem | I've *never* seen tekkub go to sleep |
| 07:04.24 | Tekkub | actually my base ones were the shitt myaddons ones, pluss like titan and something else |
| 07:04.55 | Tem | ckknight: my thought at the time was that the plugins should be listed under the category of their actual function rather than by the fact that they are X addon's plugin |
| 07:05.08 | ckknight | I agree |
| 07:05.11 | Cairenn|sleep | hyperChipmunk: you actually have to kick *me* in the balls (which should prove a challenge for you) since *I* am the one that named that category |
| 07:05.11 | Tekkub | FuBar cat's in ModMenu already boss, has been for a bit, and BP before that |
| 07:05.27 | hyperChipmunk | no, see, it's okay if you do it |
| 07:05.46 | hyperChipmunk | I'm saying if someone makes their own mod, and makes a category called the same thing in whihc only their mod will reside |
| 07:05.48 | ckknight | she's also a lady |
| 07:05.52 | ckknight | she doesn't have balls |
| 07:05.56 | hyperChipmunk | technical difficulty |
| 07:05.57 | ckknight | she has a giner |
| 07:06.00 | hyperChipmunk | it can be overcome |
| 07:06.01 | Tekkub | yea you've wasted two hours of my sleepy time with this crappy debate |
| 07:06.05 | Tekkub | I'm leaving now for reals |
| 07:06.18 | Tem | lol |
| 07:06.21 | Cairenn|sleep | as am I ... night folks |
| 07:06.25 | Tem | night Cair |
| 07:06.28 | hyperChipmunk | right, cai |
| 07:06.32 | Tekkub | you left hours ago! |
| 07:06.44 | hyperChipmunk | I knew she was fakin' it |
| 07:06.53 | Cairenn|notreall | bah! |
| 07:06.59 | Cairenn|notreall | but almost as good... |
| 07:07.19 | [MoonWolf] | note to self |
| 07:07.49 | [MoonWolf] | doing IT support for computers used in a ICT examn is hell. |
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| 07:08.36 | Tem | cladhaire: you broke PR |
| 07:09.02 | sedatedChipmunk | I'll leave you adults to your adult discussions; g'night |
| 07:10.22 | Tem | lol chipper |
| 07:10.29 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1029 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua: FuBar_RestFu - fixed nil bug. |
| 07:14.12 | Wobin_ | I wish your svn wasn't using one of those dynamic ip addresses, ckknight |
| 07:14.52 | [MoonWolf] | svn dynamic ip ? |
| 07:15.39 | Tem | what's the problem? |
| 07:15.52 | Tem | svn.wowace.com/root will always send you to the right place |
| 07:16.28 | Wobin_ | no no, Boss' personal svn |
| 07:16.34 | Wobin_ | that he uses for Fubar |
| 07:16.43 | Wobin_ | one of the hopto addresses I think |
| 07:17.22 | Wobin_ | I'm unable to access hopto addresses from here |
| 07:17.51 | sedatedChipmunk | he moved to wowace svn like 2 weeks ago |
| 07:17.55 | Tem | all of it is in the Ace svn now |
| 07:18.18 | Wobin_ | oh good |
| 07:19.13 | Tem | yeah |
| 07:19.22 | Tem | I never bothered to find the other svn |
| 07:19.29 | Tem | so I had a chornically out of date FuBar |
| 07:19.44 | Wobin_ | I just want to be able to use TortoiseSVN to update it all |
| 07:19.54 | Wobin_ | Rather than download thezip all the time |
| 07:19.54 | Tem | In a sense, I was FuBard |
| 07:20.02 | Wobin_ | badoomtisch |
| 07:20.08 | Tem | s/FuBard/FUBAR'd/ |
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| 07:20.58 | Elkano | /target Tem | /wave |
| 07:21.12 | Tem | Elkano: this your first visit to #wowace? |
| 07:21.39 | Elkano | no :) |
| 07:22.06 | Elkano | but I've started coming by this week |
| 07:22.11 | Tem | ah |
| 07:22.18 | [MoonWolf] | dont mind us |
| 07:22.23 | [MoonWolf] | we are like that all the time |
| 07:22.24 | Tem | oh that's right. You're one of those funny Euro peoples |
| 07:22.34 | sedatedChipmunk | what gave it away |
| 07:22.40 | sedatedChipmunk | >8p |
| 07:22.41 | Tem | um |
| 07:22.49 | Tem | the german in his addon's screenshot |
| 07:22.57 | [MoonWolf] | the right click country: germany |
| 07:23.02 | sedatedChipmunk | i=Elkano@client0687.vpn.uni-saarland.de |
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| 07:23.19 | Tem | I was going off of previous knowledge |
| 07:23.31 | Tem | aren't you supposed to be sleeping, sedatedChipmunk? |
| 07:23.36 | sedatedChipmunk | you don't impress us with your previous knowledge, fool |
| 07:23.49 | sedatedChipmunk | because it was written no less than 5 lines up |
| 07:23.58 | Elkano | btw: I'm still looking for a function to write text in the center of the screen. _ERRORMESSAGE and message seem to be both catched by ImprovedErrorFrame :/ |
| 07:24.25 | Tem | I think there's a Util for that |
| 07:24.36 | sedatedChipmunk | write it to the chat log and let sct deal wiht it >8D |
| 07:24.40 | sedatedChipmunk | er, combat log |
| 07:25.08 | Tem | I think it's as simple as calling AddMessage to a message frame |
| 07:25.14 | Tem | UIErrorsFrame or somesuch |
| 07:25.36 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, i do it with UIErrorsFrame:AddMessage("foo" etc etc.) |
| 07:25.44 | Elkano | well, Tem, I don't want ImprovedErrorFrame or tools like that to catch it from screen |
| 07:25.53 | Tem | wait wait |
| 07:25.54 | sedatedChipmunk | you can set duration stuff |
| 07:25.57 | sedatedChipmunk | nono |
| 07:25.59 | sedatedChipmunk | that's different |
| 07:26.00 | Tem | what kind of popup do you want? |
| 07:26.00 | Elkano | wasn't there sth. like alert(text)? |
| 07:26.17 | Elkano | well sth like "cooldown for mooncloth ready" |
| 07:26.19 | sedatedChipmunk | UIErrorsFrame is for stuff like 'out of range' errors |
| 07:26.29 | sedatedChipmunk | Invalid Target |
| 07:26.38 | sedatedChipmunk | that red line at the top |
| 07:26.40 | Tem | do you want an actual popup, or just like the -- what the rodent is talking about |
| 07:26.49 | sedatedChipmunk | =( |
| 07:26.56 | Tem | =P |
| 07:27.10 | sedatedChipmunk | I redirect bg messages to there |
| 07:27.24 | sedatedChipmunk | you can color them how you like them and set a duration and all that |
| 07:27.35 | Tem | that would probably be a good idea for me if mine wasn't constantly filled with "That ability isn't ready yet" spam |
| 07:27.42 | sedatedChipmunk | hehe |
| 07:27.50 | sedatedChipmunk | I just never see them in the chatbox |
| 07:27.57 | sedatedChipmunk | and they only come in the DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
| 07:28.07 | sedatedChipmunk | which sucks if you're not looking at the default chat frame >8P |
| 07:28.22 | Tem | one of these days I'm going to do /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME = nil just to see how much stuff breaks |
| 07:28.26 | Wobin_ | I'd like a "Heal Not Required! Jump!" if someone drops a heal on my target before I finish casting |
| 07:28.28 | sedatedChipmunk | rofl |
| 07:28.35 | Elkano | well, ath like that red message would be nice. having a popup shown when in the middle of a fight isn't fun ^^ |
| 07:28.38 | sedatedChipmunk | that's perfect place to put it |
| 07:28.49 | sedatedChipmunk | Elkano: UIErrorsFrame is what you want |
| 07:28.54 | sedatedChipmunk | sec, I'll paste my examples |
| 07:29.06 | sedatedChipmunk | even though I'm totally sleeping |
| 07:29.11 | Tem | did I actually guess the right frame name? |
| 07:29.17 | Tem | or are you going off of me? |
| 07:29.19 | sedatedChipmunk | about to find out =) |
| 07:29.26 | Elkano | will these message be intercepted by the 'anti-error-popup' tools? |
| 07:29.29 | Tem | no |
| 07:29.35 | sedatedChipmunk | UIErrorsFrame |
| 07:29.35 | Elkano | <3 |
| 07:29.42 | Tem | bam! |
| 07:31.37 | [MoonWolf] | or does he |
| 07:31.49 | Tem | I'm too tired to care |
| 07:31.54 | Tem | you decide if I win or not |
| 07:32.24 | sedatedChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.com/684478 |
| 07:33.27 | sedatedChipmunk | UIERRORS_HOLD_TIME is the default fade-out |
| 07:33.51 | sedatedChipmunk | the stuff the normal Out of Range-type errors have |
| 07:34.01 | sedatedChipmunk | the three prior are the color |
| 07:34.08 | sedatedChipmunk | rgba |
| 07:34.10 | sedatedChipmunk | 4 =) |
| 07:34.40 | sedatedChipmunk | UIErrorsFrame:AddMessage(message, r, g, b, a, duration) |
| 07:34.48 | sedatedChipmunk | duration is in seconds |
| 07:35.09 | Tem|Sleep | night guys |
| 07:35.15 | sedatedChipmunk | sweet dreams |
| 07:35.18 | Elviso | cya Tem |
| 07:35.22 | sedatedChipmunk | Elkano: good luck with that |
| 07:37.46 | Elkano | ok, I'll try it :) |
| 07:38.10 | Wobin_ | Is PR currently broken? |
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| 07:49.29 | Elviso | ckknight, are you working on RestFu still? |
| 07:49.29 | ckknight | no |
| 07:49.29 | ckknight | getting the damn centered text |
| 07:49.29 | Elviso | tomorrow or something? |
| 07:49.30 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:49.30 | Elviso | lol |
| 07:49.30 | Elviso | ok |
| 07:49.31 | Elviso | well I have my saved vars filled w/11 chars |
| 07:50.38 | Elviso | I could just post that if you wanted to insert it into your saved vars for a screenshot, otherwise I can just wait |
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| 08:12.54 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:13.27 | [MoonWolf] | morning amo |
| 08:13.29 | [MoonWolf] | ammo* |
| 08:17.27 | [Ammo] | why do people beg for stuff I said I wouldn't code meh |
| 08:17.45 | [Ammo] | even starting the post with 'I know you said you wouldn't....' |
| 08:18.14 | [MoonWolf] | I had that on curse once |
| 08:18.21 | [MoonWolf] | I had (i wont do x, dont ask) |
| 08:18.23 | [MoonWolf] | and then a post |
| 08:18.39 | [Ammo] | oh and hayfever blows donkey balls |
| 08:18.43 | [MoonWolf] | so no chance that you will do x ? |
| 08:19.05 | [Ammo] | I got a slimey keyboard now, replaced it |
| 08:22.14 | [MoonWolf] | but there isnt even a large amount of flowers open... |
| 08:22.17 | [MoonWolf] | not around here |
| 08:29.01 | [Ammo] | I should learn to organize my thoughts before starting to type a forum post |
| 08:30.55 | [MoonWolf] | actually you can organize them by writing the post |
| 08:31.01 | [MoonWolf] | then remove the post, and start over. |
| 08:31.10 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 08:31.15 | [Ammo] | well I think my post still makes sense |
| 08:31.22 | [Ammo] | but has a bit of double stuff in it |
| 08:31.27 | [Ammo] | see my request in the AceHeal thread |
| 08:32.12 | [MoonWolf] | pretty clear and coherent. |
| 08:34.13 | [Ammo] | my own hack was ugly |
| 08:34.26 | [Ammo] | it was just a toggle to keep the target you're healing |
| 08:34.43 | [Ammo] | but when decursing you don't want/need that |
| 08:47.24 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r1030 10Necronomicon/Bindings.xml: Necronomicon: Added keybindings for the buttons |
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| 09:08.56 | Wobin_ | I want Aceheal to deal with +heal =) |
| 09:09.14 | ckknight | I said I was going to do that |
| 09:09.24 | ckknight | then I saw the code, didn't like the style, and got distracted |
| 09:09.26 | Wobin_ | Woot |
| 09:09.31 | Wobin_ | Oh =( |
| 09:09.37 | Wobin_ | rewrite it! |
| 09:09.39 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:09.42 | ckknight | that's likely |
| 09:09.42 | Wobin_ | Call it HealAce =P |
| 09:09.45 | ckknight | a nice, fresh implementation |
| 09:09.46 | ckknight | no |
| 09:09.47 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:09.49 | ckknight | likely SimpleHeal |
| 09:09.55 | [Ammo] | Healomatic |
| 09:10.04 | Wobin_ | ClickyHeal |
| 09:10.07 | CIA-13 | 03tardmrr * r1031 10MailTip/ (4 files): |
| 09:10.07 | CIA-13 | MailTip: Turns out I did a pretty crappy job of clearing out the tooltip option. |
| 09:10.07 | CIA-13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.07 | [Ammo] | or call it: Kwakzalver |
| 09:10.16 | Wobin_ | Ooh, exotic german name |
| 09:10.20 | [Ammo] | dutch :p |
| 09:10.40 | Wobin_ | Even more use of consonants =P |
| 09:10.45 | [Ammo] | a Kwakzalver is a fake doctor, one that does a bad job too |
| 09:10.52 | [Ammo] | dunno the english term |
| 09:10.54 | Wobin_ | Ah, sort of a 'Quack' |
| 09:10.59 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:11.06 | [Ammo] | Kwak even sounds like Quack |
| 09:11.11 | Wobin_ | I wonder who came up with it first =P |
| 09:11.27 | ckknight | meh |
| 09:11.30 | [Ammo] | entimology beckons (correct term?) |
| 09:12.23 | [Ammo] | for aceheal to use +heal you'd need a bonusscanner like thing |
| 09:12.27 | Wobin_ | I believe so... |
| 09:12.31 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 09:12.36 | Wobin_ | unfortunately |
| 09:12.48 | [Ammo] | or you could make bonusscanner an optional dependancy, and use it if someone has it |
| 09:12.52 | Wobin_ | There could always be a library that does that sort of stuff |
| 09:13.04 | Wobin_ | Well... bonus scanner is a library at that |
| 09:13.11 | Wobin_ | it just needs to be made embedded |
| 09:13.16 | [Ammo] | no it doesn't |
| 09:13.42 | [Ammo] | it's already used by quite a lot of addons, so why duplicate it again? |
| 09:14.02 | [Ammo] | or you could just let someone set their own +heal |
| 09:14.05 | Wobin_ | Well true. But if they all embed it, that's even better, isn't it? =) |
| 09:14.11 | [Ammo] | no |
| 09:14.18 | Tem|Sleep | Or, you could just *ask* the user what their +heal is |
| 09:14.21 | [Ammo] | it increases downloads a lot :) |
| 09:14.58 | [Ammo] | every addon that uses some embedded lib needs to distribute it... |
| 09:15.14 | Tem|Sleep | also, do you trust this "bonusscanner" to be right and not poorly coded? |
| 09:15.27 | [Ammo] | the BonusScanner addon works |
| 09:15.28 | Wobin_ | Well tbh, I -don't- know what my +heal is |
| 09:15.35 | [Ammo] | dunno it's coding, but it's good |
| 09:15.36 | Wobin_ | And it would take ages for me to add it up myself |
| 09:15.51 | [Ammo] | I use the ItemBonusesFu with it |
| 09:15.57 | [Ammo] | so I can check my +damage etc |
| 09:16.05 | [Ammo] | I'm up to 518 shadowdamage with my warlock atm :) |
| 09:16.14 | Wobin_ | and mana regen |
| 09:16.17 | [Ammo] | 421 generic spelldamage 97 shadowdamage on top of that |
| 09:16.21 | Wobin_ | although I'm not sure how acdcurate it is with that |
| 09:16.21 | [Ammo] | it works for heals and mana regen |
| 09:16.38 | [Ammo] | I havent seen anything wrong with it |
| 09:16.42 | otravi | Hello there |
| 09:17.13 | [Ammo] | but asking the user is best, just let them set their +heal |
| 09:17.29 | [Ammo] | you could then even add the option dep on BonusScanner to get it from there or something as well |
| 09:17.41 | Wobin_ | I'd like the opdep |
| 09:17.46 | Wobin_ | Since I'm lazy |
| 09:17.52 | Wobin_ | And have a multitide of outfits |
| 09:17.58 | [Ammo] | I'm lazy as well |
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| 09:49.03 | ckknight | I'm contemplating removing the implicit OnUpdate from FuBar 1.2 |
| 09:49.13 | ckknight | and if people want it, have them use Metrognome directly |
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| 10:28.19 | *** topic/#wowace by [MoonWolf] -> |wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Understanding is a three edged sword. Your side, their side, and the truth. |
| 10:29.20 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r1032 10BigWigs/AQ40/ (Defenders.lua Fankriss.lua Sartura.lua Twins.lua): Bigwigs AQ40: Now correctly calls UnregisterAllEvents(). |
| 10:36.06 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r1033 10BigWigs/AQ40/Sartura.lua: BigWigs AQ40 Sartura: Improved detection of the start of the fight |
| 11:14.19 | [Ammo] | why is browsing the SVN via the web so slow meh |
| 11:16.56 | [MoonWolf] | because the whole svn is slow... |
| 11:35.33 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1034 10FuBar/ (6 files): FuBar - panels no longer center text, plugins can center themselves independantly. |
| 11:36.07 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1035 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - fixed assertions. |
| 11:36.37 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1036 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed assertions. |
| 11:39.04 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1037 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: LocationFu - fixed tooltip coloring. |
| 11:49.32 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1038 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - AddLine can now accept text[RGB]<N> |
| 11:49.37 | CIA-13 | ow |
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| 11:59.24 | Stylpe | Aha |
| 11:59.37 | Stylpe | Hey, any XChat users here? |
| 12:00.02 | ckknight | me |
| 12:01.23 | [MoonWolf] | me mem me |
| 12:01.26 | Stylpe | nvm, I figured it out =) |
| 12:01.31 | [MoonWolf] | :( |
| 12:01.55 | otravi | :O |
| 12:01.55 | Stylpe | brb |
| 12:02.10 | Qaarh | is XChat any good? |
| 12:02.28 | Qaarh | I use mIRC right now, and I don't like it |
| 12:02.33 | *** join/#wowace Stylpe (n=Stylpe@210.80-202-248.nextgentel.com) |
| 12:02.38 | [MoonWolf] | yes xchat is good, if you happen to like it. |
| 12:02.43 | Stylpe | yay |
| 12:02.53 | [MoonWolf] | irc clients are like food. |
| 12:02.54 | Stylpe | I got it because it can color nicks |
| 12:03.35 | Stylpe | Do you know how hard it is to find which clients can do that? Took me two frickin hours |
| 12:03.57 | otravi | ~pat Stylpe |
| 12:03.58 | purl | ACTION pats Stylpe and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 12:04.26 | ckknight | Qaarh, use XChat |
| 12:04.28 | Stylpe | weee, purl! :D |
| 12:04.31 | Qaarh | heheh, I'll brb |
| 12:04.34 | ckknight | better than mIRC |
| 12:04.40 | Stylpe | ~quote me |
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| 12:04.52 | [Q]aarh | tada |
| 12:04.54 | Stylpe | hmm, how did that work again? |
| 12:05.03 | ckknight | tada? |
| 12:05.09 | Stylpe | no, quoting |
| 12:05.24 | [Q]aarh | I'm in xChat |
| 12:05.31 | Stylpe | I'm talking about purl |
| 12:05.49 | Stylpe | You can tell her how to quote people |
| 12:05.58 | Stylpe | but I can 't remember the command |
| 12:06.24 | Stylpe | bummer |
| 12:06.43 | otravi | hmm, now I have no more to do with CreateFrame :( |
| 12:07.03 | otravi | http://plixx.org/?49 << Ended up with that (castingbar) |
| 12:09.20 | Stylpe | hmm |
| 12:09.41 | Stylpe | ~stylpe |
| 12:09.52 | Stylpe | ~rowne |
| 12:09.53 | purl | from memory, rowne is BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:10.17 | Stylpe | So, someone removed my quotes =( |
| 12:14.56 | [Ammo] | otravi: what casting bar thing is that? |
| 12:15.12 | otravi | [Ammo]: I started to play with CreateFrame yesterday |
| 12:15.36 | otravi | (guess what I used it for) |
| 12:15.46 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
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| 12:15.59 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1039 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - plugin clicks no longer work if mouse held for > 0.5 seconds |
| 12:16.21 | [Ammo] | I use eCastingBar it works, but I'd like something that is exactly the same size as my MG2 frames, and has the same textures and style :) |
| 12:16.35 | [Ammo] | MG2 in ABF style ofcourse |
| 12:17.39 | otravi | hehe |
| 12:17.44 | ckknight | I can't stand ABF style |
| 12:18.13 | otravi | neither could I *points at unit frame* |
| 12:19.32 | Stylpe | Aha! |
| 12:19.36 | Stylpe | ~Stylpe |
| 12:19.37 | purl | Somehow I forgot all the nice things there is to say about Stylpe =/ |
| 12:19.46 | otravi | :-P |
| 12:19.53 | otravi | ~otravi |
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| 12:19.58 | otravi | :-( |
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| 12:21.52 | [MoonWolf] | ~moonwolf |
| 12:22.02 | [MoonWolf] | ~emulate me |
| 12:22.09 | [MoonWolf] | ~emulate moonwolf |
| 12:22.10 | purl | I hate you, I Hate you, I HATE you, Call me |
| 12:22.21 | Stylpe | Ahh, emulate was the command I was looking for =) |
| 12:22.28 | Stylpe | ~emulate Stylpe |
| 12:22.29 | purl | Chuuuuu! ^_^ |
| 12:22.33 | Stylpe | weee |
| 12:23.24 | otravi | ~emulate otravi |
| 12:23.25 | purl | I have slept 13 hours in the past 4 days |
| 12:23.30 | otravi | yay |
| 12:25.26 | otravi | salmon with lemon is damn good |
| 12:25.51 | otravi | (and nothing more) |
| 12:26.17 | Qaarh | with mashed potatoes... |
| 12:26.19 | Stylpe | You ought to have some kind of spice too, like pepper |
| 12:27.22 | otravi | I don't use much pepper tho' |
| 12:27.32 | otravi | *pulls forth a dictionary* |
| 12:28.02 | Stylpe | Small black pellets, usually ground up to dust |
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| 12:28.54 | otravi | yeah, it's pepper in english also :) |
| 12:29.13 | Stylpe | :D |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1040 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua: |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-13 | FuBar_RestFu - fixed sorting bugs. |
| 12:29.46 | CIA-13 | Fixed tooltip numbers. |
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| 12:31.32 | otravi | http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4779/sickcyber1rf.jpg << ... :< |
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| 12:32.29 | Stylpe | :x |
| 12:56.40 | otravi | playing WoW with sound is fun :D |
| 12:57.01 | [MoonWolf] | most games are |
| 12:57.32 | ckknight | lol |
| 12:58.24 | Qaarh | you usually don't play with sound? |
| 13:00.17 | otravi | I usually have it off |
| 13:00.28 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1041 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - made slider prettier. |
| 13:00.34 | ckknight | there you go, Tem |
| 13:16.52 | Wobin_ | I find sound extremely important =) |
| 13:16.58 | Wobin_ | Especially in instances |
| 13:31.06 | ckknight | okay, I need some API advice |
| 13:31.21 | ckknight | for TabletLib |
| 13:32.10 | ckknight | should I continue with the tiered category system I have now, or should I use a more procedural way, where you have to declare the id of a category, then reference it? |
| 13:39.06 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1042 10TabletLib/ (API.html Lib/TabletLib.lua): TabletLib - added indentation |
| 14:03.45 | *** join/#wowace Eraphine|Lab (n=Eraphine@brenna.human.cornell.edu) |
| 14:05.34 | Eraphine|Lab | Has anyone tried using perfectraid targets in aq40? |
| 14:08.14 | Lucen | ya..i have been |
| 14:08.56 | Eraphine|Lab | I have a LOT of slowdown |
| 14:09.04 | Eraphine|Lab | when the entire raid is targetting something |
| 14:09.17 | Lucen | hmm |
| 14:09.27 | Eraphine|Lab | nothing on your end? |
| 14:09.33 | Lucen | honestly I'm not sure |
| 14:09.55 | Lucen | i switched from CTRA -> xraid -> perfectraid |
| 14:09.56 | Eraphine|Lab | It seems correlated to how many people are targetting something |
| 14:10.02 | Lucen | so that may be some of it |
| 14:10.13 | Lucen | ohhh.hmm..i should look through the code again |
| 14:10.15 | Eraphine|Lab | well, disabling prt took the lag problem away |
| 14:10.26 | Eraphine|Lab | it's not "lag" |
| 14:10.28 | Eraphine|Lab | it's fps impact |
| 14:10.34 | Lucen | well..it does update a lot |
| 14:10.46 | Eraphine|Lab | yeah, I changed the update, but didn't have a chance to retest it |
| 14:10.47 | Lucen | i just started really looking at the code last night though |
| 14:10.48 | Eraphine|Lab | we were doing an emp clear |
| 14:10.59 | Lucen | yeah..not a lot of time for testing..hehe |
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| 14:12.22 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1043 10TabletLib/ (API.html Lib/TabletLib.lua): TabletLib - added isRadio |
| 14:13.51 | Eraphine|Lab | ckknight, since fubar now has default support for spacing, transparency, and font, why are you still distributing the 3 in the starter pack? |
| 14:14.00 | ckknight | no |
| 14:14.04 | ckknight | wait |
| 14:14.06 | ckknight | I shouldn't be |
| 14:14.33 | Eraphine|Lab | nm you're not |
| 14:14.40 | Eraphine|Lab | the description isn't updated on the wowi sight |
| 14:14.42 | Eraphine|Lab | err site |
| 14:14.45 | ckknight | okay |
| 14:15.03 | Eraphine|Lab | great job on that btw - it looks very slick |
| 14:15.08 | Eraphine|Lab | and a lot more intuitive too |
| 14:17.30 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1044 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu - DurabilityFu.lua:430: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 14:37.02 | ckknight | sweet, I found the perfect way to support two APIs |
| 14:37.27 | ckknight | I have one class, FuBarPlugin |
| 14:37.39 | ckknight | then another that derives from it, FuBarPlugin_100 |
| 14:38.08 | ckknight | I override FuBarPlugin's new method, and it checks the fuCompatible to see if it's < 101, if so, it returns an instance of FuBarPlugin_100 |
| 15:00.44 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1045 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBarPlugin.lua): FuBar - Updated API switch handling. |
| 15:07.01 | otravi | *takes a look* |
| 15:21.53 | Elviso | ckknight you get RestFU g2g? |
| 15:22.11 | ckknight | yea |
| 15:22.17 | Elviso | k |
| 15:22.31 | Lucen | so how much do you think tekkub would hate me if I updated my PRT branch with a version that displayed targettarget? |
| 15:22.37 | ckknight | also, there are left, centered, and right-aligned plugins now |
| 15:22.49 | ckknight | why? |
| 15:23.00 | Elviso | yay |
| 15:23.04 | Lucen | i wrote it in last night |
| 15:23.20 | Lucen | i just know he was pretty set against doing it |
| 15:23.44 | Lucen | i fixed the alignment issues too |
| 15:23.51 | Lucen | i think |
| 15:24.36 | ckknight | Tekkub has ... issues with some things |
| 15:25.56 | Lucen | yeah, i'd rather not make anyone upset |
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| 15:31.30 | Eraphine|Lab | If it's a branch... |
| 15:31.33 | Eraphine|Lab | I mean - we are all community right? |
| 15:31.49 | Lucen | ya |
| 15:31.58 | [MoonWolf] | pretty much |
| 15:34.13 | Elviso | ckknight: http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=restfu3dc.jpg |
| 15:34.47 | Lucen | well..i'll push to branch and put my flame-retardant suit on just in case :D |
| 15:35.05 | Elviso | i got that data lastnight before I updated it, if I need to reget the data let me know |
| 15:36.12 | ckknight | nah |
| 15:36.13 | ckknight | all good |
| 15:37.49 | Elviso | ok cool |
| 15:41.55 | CIA-13 | 03lucen 07Lucen * r1046 10PerfectRaidTargets/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:41.55 | CIA-13 | PerfectRaidTargets (branches): |
| 15:41.55 | CIA-13 | - Should fix alignment issue if above tank does not have a target |
| 15:41.55 | CIA-13 | - Minor modification of dynamic name/frame sizing to see if it helps with expanding frame width |
| 15:41.55 | CIA-13 | - Prelim target of target, just displays name, no click action. |
| 15:43.00 | Eraphine|Lab | Lucen, I'll do some more testing, but we have to figure out if there are optimzations that can be made for 40-man raids |
| 15:43.11 | Lucen | definitly |
| 15:43.21 | Lucen | i wasn't even paying attention to it last night |
| 15:43.30 | Lucen | i'll watch it a lot more closely tonight in BWL |
| 15:43.33 | Eraphine|Lab | The thing is, unless you have a VERY fast computer, you would notice it |
| 15:43.42 | Lucen | hmm |
| 15:43.44 | Eraphine|Lab | my fps dropped from ~35 to ~14 |
| 15:43.50 | Lucen | wow |
| 15:44.00 | Eraphine|Lab | I have P4 2.8 ghz with a 6800gt |
| 15:44.06 | Lucen | well..i was sitting at ~20 in action the whole night i think |
| 15:44.13 | Lucen | haha..that's pretty much my computer exactly |
| 15:44.43 | Lucen | same vid card, only amd 2600 |
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| 15:46.55 | Lucen | Are you using PerfectRaid too? |
| 15:51.18 | otravi | Lucen: I ended up playing with a CastingBar :p |
| 15:51.27 | Lucen | ooooo |
| 15:51.39 | otravi | I found out I should learn how to use CreateFrame, so it's very much abused p |
| 15:51.49 | Lucen | hahaha |
| 15:52.47 | otravi | Lucen: http://plixx.org/?4C << looks like that atm |
| 15:53.09 | otravi | (check out my PvP UI) |
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| 15:55.11 | Eraphine|Lab | no I was using CTRA |
| 15:55.33 | Eraphine|Lab | I'm one of the raid leaders so I need the options to assign MT targets, check raid status, durability, whatnot |
| 15:55.44 | Eraphine|Lab | but I think PRT has great potential |
| 15:55.54 | Lucen | gotcha |
| 15:56.16 | Lucen | wow..otravi...that is a -clean- ui |
| 15:56.25 | Eraphine|Lab | linky? I just d/ced |
| 15:56.29 | otravi | all my chars have that UI :o |
| 15:56.33 | otravi | http://plixx.org/?4C |
| 15:56.41 | otravi | I use the same button setup for all three of them :p |
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| 15:57.02 | otravi | that way I don't have to show all the buttons I use, since they're mostly the same |
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| 16:19.12 | id` | otravi: you need idMinimap |
| 16:19.15 | id` | ^^ |
| 16:19.24 | id` | *food* |
| 16:20.10 | otravi | what does id` (Minimap) do ? |
| 16:23.17 | otravi | id`: oh it does that.. I'm more or less thinking of hiding it |
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| 16:27.49 | Neronix | afternoon |
| 16:27.53 | otravi | hello |
| 16:28.32 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1047 10FuBar/PanelClass.lua: FuBar - PanelClass.lua:860: attempt to compare number with nil |
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| 16:33.54 | Walle | Hey, Now I'm really tired of this, Can someone PLZ help me install wardrobe? |
| 16:34.27 | Walle | Can't get that freaking Timex too work... Just getting Dependency missing =/ |
| 16:34.45 | Walle | Ding dong?! |
| 16:35.05 | Lucen | no clue, I use ItemRack |
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| 16:35.37 | Walle | IteaRack, Dosent it uses Timex? |
| 16:35.44 | Lucen | nope |
| 16:35.48 | Lucen | ItemRack isn't ace'd |
| 16:35.53 | Walle | ah,kk |
| 16:36.14 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 16:36.15 | Wobin_ | Aslan is what Jesus would have been if the Bible had been written by an American. After his "sacrifice", he comes back with a huge army and bites his enemy's f***ing head off. Much cooler. |
| 16:39.51 | otravi | I don't like AceWardrobe |
| 16:39.56 | otravi | but I'm to lazy to change |
| 16:43.38 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1048 10FuBar/PanelClass.lua: FuBar - PanelClass.lua:853: attempt to index local `left' (a nil value) |
| 16:44.00 | Walle | Otravi: How did u get it to work? |
| 16:44.45 | id` | Walle: so did you check what the dependencies are? |
| 16:45.26 | id` | < otravi> id`: oh it does that.. I'm more or less thinking of hiding it |
| 16:45.29 | id` | otravi: hiding what? |
| 16:45.53 | Walle | Uhm, Can't do that.. When im logging in on my charecter and then pressing the "addons" button, I says dependecy missing on AceWardrobe and Timex |
| 16:46.04 | otravi | Walle: I.. installed the deps and typed /ace profile char acewardrobe |
| 16:46.04 | id` | Walle: no, in the file |
| 16:46.11 | otravi | id`: the minimap ofc! |
| 16:46.13 | otravi | it sucks! |
| 16:46.16 | otravi | I never use it! |
| 16:46.26 | id` | otravi: idMinimap hides things around the minimap and uses mousewheel scrolling and coordinates |
| 16:46.29 | id` | otravi: lol :P |
| 16:46.39 | otravi | id`: yeah, I checked WoWI |
| 16:46.42 | id` | k |
| 16:46.46 | otravi | but I'm to lazy to fix ShardAce :D |
| 16:46.56 | id` | Walle: look inside the addon's .toc file |
| 16:47.10 | Walle | oh, one sec.. |
| 16:47.47 | Walle | Here is the Timex, ## Interface: 11000 |
| 16:47.47 | Walle | ## Title: Timex |
| 16:47.48 | Walle | ## Author: Rowne/RasmusKL/facboy |
| 16:47.48 | Walle | ## RequiredDeps: Ace |
| 16:47.48 | Walle | ## OptionalDeps: Chronos |
| 16:47.48 | Walle | ## SavedVariables: TimexDB |
| 16:47.50 | Walle | Core\TimexCoreLocals.lua |
| 16:47.52 | Walle | ChatCmd\TimexChatCmdLocals.lua |
| 16:47.54 | Walle | Core\TimexCore.xml |
| 16:47.56 | Walle | Core\TimexCore.lua |
| 16:47.58 | Walle | ChatCmd\TimexChatCmd.lua |
| 16:47.59 | id` | woa dont spam it into IRC |
| 16:48.00 | Walle | Bar\TimexBar.xml |
| 16:48.02 | Walle | Bar\TimexBar.lua |
| 16:48.02 | id` | stop |
| 16:48.04 | Walle | Support\TimexDeprecated.lua |
| 16:48.04 | otravi | *hides* |
| 16:48.05 | id` | ... |
| 16:48.06 | Walle | Support\TimexChronosSupport.lua |
| 16:48.11 | id` | I just asked you to read the file |
| 16:48.13 | id` | anyway |
| 16:48.14 | otravi | id`: I'ts mIRC I guess - can't stop :p |
| 16:48.25 | id` | ## RequiredDeps: Ace |
| 16:48.32 | id` | Walle: for ace addons you need ace |
| 16:49.13 | id` | otravi: shh |
| 16:49.16 | Walle | Dude, I know, But it seems that I have deleted it =/ |
| 16:49.32 | id` | Walle: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4125 |
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| 16:49.50 | Walle | Thx |
| 16:49.52 | id` | Walle: well now you know how to solve dependency problems all by yourself |
| 16:49.55 | id` | :-) |
| 16:50.11 | Walle | I'll be back in a sec when I have put all the stuff in my addon map |
| 16:50.16 | id` | heh |
| 16:50.22 | [Ammo] | someone has sent me 6 highres texturesets for Necronomicon :) |
| 16:50.27 | id` | cool |
| 16:50.33 | Lucen | ammo! |
| 16:50.35 | id` | omg like show them |
| 16:50.36 | [Ammo] | Lucen :) |
| 16:50.36 | id` | :p |
| 16:50.49 | Lucen | you'll never guess what happened to me this week on bug family |
| 16:50.55 | [Ammo] | I know :( |
| 16:50.58 | [Ammo] | it happened to me last night too |
| 16:51.15 | [Ammo] | one small problem though |
| 16:51.23 | [Ammo] | your death count isn't the solution :) |
| 16:51.25 | Lucen | it was pretty funny though..i was spamming the raid with Bug Family has been defeated! |
| 16:51.31 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 16:51.39 | [Ammo] | need to find a better solution for it |
| 16:51.50 | Lucen | yeah..i'm trying to think of one |
| 16:51.50 | [Ammo] | or just not include the defeated message :) |
| 16:51.58 | [Ammo] | because if you reset the encounter |
| 16:52.01 | [Ammo] | then the deathcount remains etc |
| 16:52.09 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r1049 10Necronomicon/ (209 files in 7 dirs): |
| 16:52.09 | CIA-13 | Necronomicon: |
| 16:52.09 | CIA-13 | - Added 6 different themes with highres textures |
| 16:52.09 | CIA-13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.09 | CIA-13 | - Fixed the keybindings header |
| 16:52.10 | Lucen | oooo |
| 16:52.14 | [Ammo] | 209 files :) |
| 16:52.18 | Lucen | i didn't think of that ammo |
| 16:52.39 | id` | [Ammo]: are they blp? |
| 16:52.42 | [Ammo] | .tga |
| 16:52.47 | id` | good |
| 16:52.48 | [Ammo] | I need a tga2blp convertor |
| 16:52.50 | id` | *look* |
| 16:52.52 | Walle | Stupid me >_<, It seems like it works now, Thx Id :) |
| 16:52.58 | id` | why isnt tga just fine? |
| 16:53.04 | id` | Walle: hey np |
| 16:53.04 | [Ammo] | tga = 4x as big |
| 16:53.09 | id` | [Ammo]: ic |
| 16:53.37 | [Ammo] | I think these are the Necrosis LDC textures though |
| 16:53.43 | [Ammo] | so I sent those guys an email asking permission to use them |
| 16:55.23 | [Ammo] | Lucen: maybe should just schedule a delayed message on blah dies.... |
| 16:55.32 | [Ammo] | and unschedule if you get the 'devoured message' |
| 16:55.44 | [Ammo] | and disable the addon upon the delayed message |
| 16:55.53 | [Ammo] | that would be the solution I think |
| 16:56.13 | Shyva | does all bosses send a death event? as only 1 boss really "dies" |
| 16:56.31 | [Ammo] | they do :( |
| 16:56.40 | Shyva | Hmmm |
| 16:56.42 | [Ammo] | that's what the problem is |
| 16:56.48 | Shyva | Yea... |
| 16:56.56 | Shyva | I'll go think off something too ;-/ |
| 16:57.06 | [Ammo] | so dies -> delayed message, devoured -> cancel that message, delayed message -> report defeat and disable |
| 16:57.20 | otravi | Shyva: Can't you just save the info in three vars and say something when all three are true? |
| 16:57.29 | otravi | or just a value :p |
| 16:57.33 | [Ammo] | that is _if_ devoured comes after dies :) |
| 16:58.37 | otravi | save the combat log next try, keke :D |
| 16:58.54 | [Ammo] | how do I do that? |
| 16:59.17 | Shyva | ./chatlog I think :-/ |
| 16:59.27 | Shyva | I hope I can do them again before I got on vacation :-| |
| 16:59.35 | [Ammo] | we're gonna do em tonight |
| 16:59.39 | [Ammo] | so that's why I'm asking :) |
| 16:59.58 | Shyva | :-D |
| 17:00.02 | [Ammo] | it's: /chatlog and /combatlog |
| 17:00.08 | [Ammo] | they are turned on now |
| 17:00.27 | Shyva | Hmm, we are gonna do them tonight too :-DD |
| 17:01.45 | [Ammo] | the devoured is an emote I think |
| 17:01.58 | [Ammo] | if it happens before death it's easy to ignore the dies. message afterwards |
| 17:02.03 | [Ammo] | if it happens after the delay solution will do |
| 17:03.18 | id` | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1058.0.html\ |
| 17:03.22 | id` | am i right or what |
| 17:04.56 | otravi | not even I use visor for button oO |
| 17:05.25 | Neronix`afk | id`: You're right |
| 17:05.32 | Neronix`afk | I was hoping for an excuse to say what :P |
| 17:05.43 | [Ammo] | Shyva: are you receiving my queries? or not? :) |
| 17:05.53 | Neronix | anyways, random question: |
| 17:06.02 | id` | otravi: yeah well.. thats your choice |
| 17:06.32 | otravi | I did configure it once |
| 17:06.39 | otravi | when rowne still was playing with it |
| 17:06.48 | Neronix | Who'd like a little combat stat addon? all it'll do is display how much dmg you did in the last battle and average dps. You can also change the display to hps, or have both |
| 17:06.51 | Shyva | I'm not [Ammo] :-S |
| 17:06.51 | otravi | but the hot swap thingy he used lagged like a retarded monkey on drugs |
| 17:06.55 | otravi | so I stopped using it |
| 17:06.59 | Neronix | think wikiwikidps, but with less crap :P |
| 17:06.59 | otravi | and haven't touched it since :p |
| 17:07.41 | [Ammo] | aha |
| 17:07.53 | [Ammo] | because I'm talking to you in a privmsgs but you're not responding :) |
| 17:08.22 | Shyva | I was wondering why you didn't reply to my question, did you see my query? |
| 17:08.23 | [Ammo] | probably because I'm not registered or something |
| 17:08.34 | [Ammo] | Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! |
| 17:08.37 | [Ammo] | blah |
| 17:08.46 | id` | otravi: what do you use? |
| 17:08.52 | id` | otravi: im using bongos atm |
| 17:09.03 | id` | Stylpe: ! |
| 17:09.08 | Tain | That was a long time ago and vastly different button swapping method, otravi |
| 17:09.10 | id` | qwertyuiop |
| 17:09.14 | Stylpe | id`, ? |
| 17:09.22 | [MoonWolf] | http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6594/screen111113nx.jpg |
| 17:09.22 | id` | Stylpe: hi long time no see ;) |
| 17:09.32 | Stylpe | hi =) I've been here all day |
| 17:09.40 | otravi | id`: Card_Bars, I only need around 36 buttons |
| 17:09.41 | sedatedChipmunk | [MoonWolf]: O_o |
| 17:09.41 | [MoonWolf] | and taht makes us very happy. |
| 17:09.55 | Tain | The current swapping acts more like the default buttons. Not 100%, but more like it. |
| 17:09.56 | id` | Mikma: note it says stack size twice |
| 17:10.00 | id` | [MoonWolf]: * |
| 17:10.09 | otravi | Tain: I know, but well, I started to enjoy Card_Bars |
| 17:10.09 | id` | otravi: k |
| 17:10.09 | [MoonWolf] | oh yeah |
| 17:10.11 | Tain | I only use Visor for everything because I started doing the dev on it. |
| 17:10.14 | id` | otravi: me too :p |
| 17:10.15 | [MoonWolf] | once for kci and once for mendeleev |
| 17:10.20 | sedatedChipmunk | [MoonWolf]: does it put it in tree format for engineers? |
| 17:10.20 | Tain | I still like Cardbars. |
| 17:10.21 | [MoonWolf] | you can turn the mendeleev one off. |
| 17:10.34 | id` | [MoonWolf]: k |
| 17:10.38 | otravi | yeah, Cardbars is perfect :D |
| 17:10.41 | [MoonWolf] | sedatedChipmunk, no, and you can kiss that features goodbye. |
| 17:10.44 | [MoonWolf] | not going to happen. |
| 17:10.45 | Stylpe | I still USE CardBars |
| 17:10.49 | Stylpe | and love it |
| 17:10.51 | sedatedChipmunk | [MoonWolf]: useless then |
| 17:10.56 | otravi | it does everything I want to, and it doesn't contain any other extra crap |
| 17:10.57 | Neronix | I'm switching to cardbars today |
| 17:10.57 | [Ammo] | cardbars rules indeed |
| 17:11.08 | id` | Im checking it out today |
| 17:11.08 | Neronix | warmup says bongos is fat :P |
| 17:11.08 | id` | :p |
| 17:11.16 | id` | it indeed it |
| 17:11.18 | id` | is* |
| 17:11.23 | sedatedChipmunk | engineering is so screwed when it comes to UI |
| 17:11.26 | id` | but hey its a nice addon |
| 17:11.59 | Neronix | anyways, comments on the tiny stats addon idea? Anyone want to use it if I write it? |
| 17:12.12 | [MoonWolf] | tiny stats |
| 17:12.16 | [MoonWolf] | what will it do ? |
| 17:12.33 | otravi | nice name there tho' |
| 17:12.35 | otravi | TinyStats |
| 17:12.36 | hyperChipmunk | it will give measurements of gnome females you're interested in |
| 17:12.46 | Neronix | I was thinking NanoStats actually |
| 17:12.49 | [MoonWolf] | DO NOT WANT |
| 17:12.56 | Neronix | it's just like wikiwikidps, but with less crap |
| 17:13.06 | [MoonWolf] | wont use it then |
| 17:13.12 | hyperChipmunk | wtf is the word wiki doing in an addon |
| 17:13.19 | otravi | and twice :< |
| 17:13.24 | Neronix | hyperChipmunk: Ask gimbatuul :P |
| 17:13.31 | [MoonWolf] | i want full documented all included how many times did i miss my kick the last 15 fights information. |
| 17:13.36 | Tain | do we get to say wiki wiki again? |
| 17:13.38 | hyperChipmunk | "hey, people like wikis; we should put it in our addon for downloads++++++++++++" |
| 17:13.39 | Tain | Wiki wiki wiki! |
| 17:14.19 | Stylpe | I'd rather say "Waka waka waka" |
| 17:14.29 | Stylpe | while eating ................... |
| 17:14.40 | Neronix | NanoStats will just bet a small window that shows how much damage/healing/both you did in the previous battle (Just you, not the whole party/raid/pie) and average dps/hps/both |
| 17:14.40 | otravi | Where is that from? |
| 17:14.43 | Stylpe | .................o *DING* ........ |
| 17:14.57 | Neronix | and maybe how long that instance of combat lasted, if I decide to implement that too |
| 17:15.16 | Tain | Now if you want to find a great early example of use of a "wiki" go find the song Jam On It by Newcleus. |
| 17:15.18 | otravi | maybe I should complete my castingbar! |
| 17:15.35 | hyperChipmunk | call it SPDIkiwIkiw |
| 17:15.36 | Neronix | just handy info for yourself - Good for stats fetishists :P |
| 17:15.44 | Stylpe | otravi, really, you don't know who says waka waka and eats ...... ? |
| 17:15.59 | otravi | Stylpe: I have known.... once... |
| 17:16.04 | Tain | Well in his defense Stylpe I first thought Fozzie Bear before it dawned on me. |
| 17:16.05 | hyperChipmunk | omgz |
| 17:16.12 | Neronix | hyperChipmunk: hmm, maybe |
| 17:16.14 | hyperChipmunk | otravi: youare a failure |
| 17:16.19 | otravi | :----( |
| 17:16.30 | Stylpe | Aww, go easy on him =P not all of us are old |
| 17:16.31 | hyperChipmunk | (< * . . . . | |
| 17:16.33 | Stylpe | But still.... |
| 17:16.34 | otravi | aaaaah |
| 17:16.52 | Neronix | I'm far from old and I knew what Stylpe was on about :P |
| 17:17.07 | otravi | hyperChipmunk: I have that game on some old japanese gaming station here too :D |
| 17:18.10 | Tain | Wait wait.. that's Final Fantasy VII right hyperChipmunk? |
| 17:18.11 | hyperChipmunk | beweeooweeooweooow poink poink! |
| 17:18.26 | hyperChipmunk | Tain: close, VIII |
| 17:18.30 | Stylpe | hyperChipmunk, lol! Oh noes! |
| 17:18.31 | Tain | That's not an ascii representation of Cloud's hair? :( |
| 17:18.38 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 17:18.43 | id` | lmao |
| 17:18.44 | Neronix | so, feedback on the idea? :P |
| 17:18.44 | otravi | lol |
| 17:18.46 | Neronix | lol |
| 17:18.58 | [MoonWolf] | good idea, but i wont use it. |
| 17:19.06 | id` | Good idea, Ill use it |
| 17:19.13 | hyperChipmunk | /\/|/|_ |
| 17:19.34 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.36 | Stylpe | Neronix, I have the same mindset as [MoonWolf], i.e. everything or nothing |
| 17:19.49 | Tain | I don't even know what the idea is but I think it stinks. |
| 17:19.55 | Neronix | ;_; |
| 17:20.10 | Stylpe | ~lart Tain |
| 17:20.31 | CIA-13 | 03moonwolf * r1050 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: Fixed remaining problems in the tradeskill changes. |
| 17:20.37 | hyperChipmunk | ~whaleparry Stylpe |
| 17:20.39 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Stylpe's attacks. |
| 17:20.45 | id` | cladhaire: AH-HA! |
| 17:20.50 | id` | cladhaire: you are active here now! |
| 17:20.54 | id` | cladhaire: i sent you an email |
| 17:20.56 | id` | :P |
| 17:21.04 | Neronix | at least id` and I will use it |
| 17:21.15 | Neronix | plenty of support :P |
| 17:21.22 | id` | heh |
| 17:21.40 | Tain | By the way I'm fairly sick of Visor so if anyone else wants to pick up on it, feel free. |
| 17:21.50 | Stylpe | Tain, hells no =P |
| 17:21.53 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 17:22.10 | CIA-13 | 03moonwolf * r1051 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: Properly reclaiming the sorted table now. |
| 17:22.14 | Stylpe | I'd rather jump into Oblivion |
| 17:22.17 | Tain | It needs to be redone from the ground up to do what I'd like to see. |
| 17:22.20 | Tain | mmm Oblivion |
| 17:22.44 | Stylpe | Oblivion had a nice engine, but was a poor game |
| 17:22.57 | [MoonWolf] | oblivion was a nice game, AND IT STILL IS. |
| 17:23.00 | Tain | See I think Oblivion is a great game with a piss-poor interface. |
| 17:23.08 | [MoonWolf] | there is interface changes |
| 17:23.12 | [MoonWolf] | and they make it rock. |
| 17:23.17 | [MoonWolf] | and i dont care about the scaling |
| 17:23.18 | Tain | The UI makes everything so frustrating. |
| 17:23.21 | [MoonWolf] | i think its fine. |
| 17:23.23 | Stylpe | What really was missing in Oblivion was a good story |
| 17:23.44 | Tain | Did you actually do any of the storyline? |
| 17:23.57 | [MoonWolf] | eeuh, its FULL of story |
| 17:24.02 | Stylpe | Yep, until gates started appearing outside all the cities |
| 17:24.07 | [MoonWolf] | if you did not like that story that is something completly personal. |
| 17:24.47 | Stylpe | "The world is ending, and you're gonna save it whether you want to or not, but please, take your time!" |
| 17:24.56 | Tain | I dunno, I don't think it's The Odessy or anything, but it had more story than most games. |
| 17:25.14 | Stylpe | I forgot "... because an evil cult is summoning a daedra prince..." |
| 17:25.31 | Stylpe | There are no surprises, non plot twists |
| 17:25.42 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-179.handshake.de) |
| 17:25.52 | Stylpe | Some of the side quests were nice though |
| 17:26.00 | Stylpe | but only some |
| 17:26.03 | [MoonWolf] | Through a nightmare, darkly. |
| 17:26.10 | [MoonWolf] | i liked that one. |
| 17:26.11 | [MoonWolf] | a lot. |
| 17:26.14 | Stylpe | not the ones that boil down to "kill X" almost immediately |
| 17:26.24 | Tain | Yeah that was neat Moon |
| 17:26.33 | Tain | I liked the Panting one too. |
| 17:26.44 | otravi | yay, server went down again! |
| 17:26.48 | Tain | err |
| 17:26.49 | otravi | time to complete the Casting Bar :D |
| 17:26.52 | Stylpe | Aaah! Everyone keeps telling me about that quest, but I haven't done it yet >_< |
| 17:26.53 | [MoonWolf] | painting |
| 17:26.56 | Tain | s/Panting/painting/ |
| 17:26.57 | Neronix | I'm scared to even try and run oblivion |
| 17:27.06 | [MoonWolf] | Stylpe, go do it. |
| 17:27.07 | Tain | Yeah well it was neat. |
| 17:27.10 | Neronix | 1.6ghz p4, 384mb ram, geforcefx 5900 XT |
| 17:27.12 | Neronix | *shudder* |
| 17:27.14 | Stylpe | I guess I will =) |
| 17:27.16 | Tain | But it's still just a go kill x things so you won't like it. |
| 17:27.18 | [MoonWolf] | its not exactly hype worthy |
| 17:27.20 | [MoonWolf] | but its neat. |
| 17:27.32 | Stylpe | It's "Go kill X with a twist" =) |
| 17:27.38 | Neronix | It's hard enough playing wow with firefox, scite, mirc and a bunch of explorer windows up all at once :P |
| 17:27.46 | [MoonWolf] | And the everscamp staff one was nice too. |
| 17:27.56 | Tain | hhaah that was funny |
| 17:28.05 | Tain | Did you do the Mage's guild one with the ring in the well? |
| 17:28.13 | Stylpe | yep |
| 17:28.14 | [MoonWolf] | it was a bit hard to actually hear any enemies in that cave. |
| 17:28.21 | [MoonWolf] | yeah. but it was trivially easy. |
| 17:28.30 | [MoonWolf] | i dont cary a lot of stuff. |
| 17:28.35 | Stylpe | but by the time I did that, I was already a vampire and stuff |
| 17:28.48 | Tain | I was constantly grabbing herbs and doing alchemy so I had a ton on me |
| 17:28.49 | [MoonWolf] | i did the mage quests pretty early on. |
| 17:29.01 | *** join/#wowace gxam (n=gxam@cpe-66-69-196-26.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 17:29.08 | Tain | I *love* poisoning arrows |
| 17:29.14 | [MoonWolf] | oh yeah |
| 17:29.16 | Stylpe | Haha, I remember the guy falling from the sky at the start of Morrowind :D |
| 17:29.25 | Tain | hehe yeah |
| 17:29.35 | [MoonWolf] | i am kinda sad there was no falling guy in oblivion. |
| 17:29.46 | [MoonWolf] | first time someone find the falling guy |
| 17:29.51 | [MoonWolf] | they are gaurenteed to die themselves. |
| 17:29.57 | Stylpe | Hehe |
| 17:31.10 | [MoonWolf] | jump, weee this is fun. fall........ eject eject. where is my parachute. splash. |
| 17:31.10 | Stylpe | "Weeeeee! Weeee! Weeeeeee! Aaaaaah!" *Splat* |
| 17:31.10 | Stylpe | bah, beat me to it =P |
| 17:34.45 | Tain | I would be playing more Oblivion but started into Eve Online. |
| 17:35.20 | [MoonWolf] | althoug i am a big fan of space shooting sims. i dont really like eve. |
| 17:35.34 | [MoonWolf] | morning cairenn |
| 17:36.04 | Cairenn | hi hi, actually early afternoon and it's already been an incredibly long day |
| 17:36.07 | Tain | I love Eve. It's not a space shooting sim at all. |
| 17:36.27 | Neronix | Hey Cairenn |
| 17:36.52 | Cairenn | I've been up and about for hours now, just got back from picking my daughter up from school and taking her straight to the doctor's office ... |
| 17:37.10 | [MoonWolf] | doctor ... nothing serieus i hope. |
| 17:37.26 | Tain | Your daughter is spending too much time with doctors. :( |
| 17:37.41 | Cairenn | she'll be okay, she's got a prescription of antibiotics now though, and further blood tests scheduled |
| 17:38.29 | [MoonWolf] | good. |
| 17:46.01 | Cairenn|afk | go ahead and fill them in, I don't care, I just don't have time right now |
| 17:47.24 | Tain | Or you could just pay attention in here, Stylpe. :P |
| 17:47.33 | Stylpe | true |
| 17:48.37 | kergoth | "In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress." |
| 17:49.01 | [MoonWolf] | who said that |
| 17:49.08 | Stylpe | Cairenn|afk, tell her to get well soon, and tell her that I still love --- ummm, cookies... yeah. |
| 17:49.10 | [MoonWolf] | that person deserves a price |
| 17:49.16 | kergoth | john adams |
| 17:49.18 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:49.20 | Tain | Yep. :) |
| 17:49.39 | Stylpe | kergoth, you use google.com/ig too =) |
| 17:50.02 | Stylpe | or maybe you just visit the quotes site it's taken from... |
| 17:51.53 | kergoth | http://www.eff.org/IP/DRM/piratead/CEA_ad.pdf |
| 17:52.00 | kergoth | Stylpe: i use netvibes, similar deal :) |
| 17:56.43 | Tain | "Gameplay is typical of full-motion-video shooting games, but the presence of Hulk Hogan and his talking boat elevates the game far above anything else you might have previously experienced in the genre." |
| 17:59.23 | [MoonWolf] | talking boar, hulk hogan ??? |
| 17:59.39 | otravi | oO |
| 17:59.49 | otravi | looks like my guild is migrating :O |
| 17:59.50 | Tain | http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3149883 |
| 17:59.59 | Tain | A look back on the history of the Phillips CD-i game system |
| 18:01.51 | Lucen | otravi: your guild is migrating? |
| 18:02.29 | otravi | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.43 | Lucen | wow |
| 18:02.52 | Lucen | you have an idea of what server? |
| 18:02.59 | otravi | server has been unplayable for two days now |
| 18:03.04 | otravi | nope :< |
| 18:03.04 | Lucen | yeah |
| 18:05.14 | Codayus | It's cool, I was passing 1100 ms ping last night in MC. |
| 18:05.18 | Codayus | I normally get ~150ms. |
| 18:05.28 | otravi | Codayus: Well, you can play at least :p |
| 18:05.34 | Codayus | It's actually kind of interesting trying to be the MT healer with that sort of lag... |
| 18:05.41 | Neronix | does your server have transfers open? |
| 18:05.54 | Neronix | or are you going to start over? |
| 18:06.26 | otravi | Neronix: no migration open |
| 18:06.35 | Neronix | ow :< |
| 18:09.03 | Codayus | ow |
| 18:09.23 | Codayus | Bliz needs to open up fee-based server transfers... |
| 18:09.48 | Codayus | (ie, any server to any server, any time.) |
| 18:10.02 | otravi | hehe |
| 18:10.08 | Neronix | They say that's almost ready |
| 18:10.18 | Codayus | I vaguely recall them promising it, like, months ago... |
| 18:11.53 | Tem | Bam! |
| 18:11.56 | Tem | Hi, You have received 20/20 in project 3. The class average is 14.8. |
| 18:11.56 | otravi | Codayus: rumors say 1.11 |
| 18:12.14 | Codayus | Tem: Only 20/20? You're slacking mate! |
| 18:12.22 | Neronix | Grats Tem |
| 18:12.38 | [MoonWolf] | GJ |
| 18:12.39 | Tem | for all the work I put into it I'm somewhat pissed that I didn't get bonus points |
| 18:12.41 | Codayus | You need to aim higher! |
| 18:14.37 | Tain | Keira Knightly voted world's sexiest woman. |
| 18:14.43 | Tain | I didn't get to vote. |
| 18:15.32 | Tem | hey Codayus, |
| 18:15.33 | Tem | private static final Pattern linkPattern = Pattern.compile("<[Aa]\\s([^>]*)>"); |
| 18:15.33 | Tem | private static final Pattern hrefPattern = Pattern.compile("(?i)href\\s*=\\s*((?:[^\\s\"'>][^\\s>]*)|\"[^\">]*\"|'[^'>]*')"); |
| 18:15.33 | Tem | private static final Pattern standaloneLinkPattern = Pattern.compile("(^|[\n ])([\\w]+?://[\\w\\#$%&~/.\\-;:=,?@\\[\\]+]*)"); |
| 18:15.52 | Codayus | ? |
| 18:16.15 | Tem | that's what I want bonus points for |
| 18:16.31 | Codayus | Ah? |
| 18:16.33 | Tem | I'm 99% sure I'm the onlye person in the class that used regex |
| 18:16.37 | Codayus | Heh |
| 18:16.40 | Tem | s/ye// |
| 18:16.45 | Tem | s/ye/y/ |
| 18:17.00 | Codayus | Using it to validate stuff? What did other people do? |
| 18:17.11 | Tem | dirty, dirty things |
| 18:17.29 | Codayus | lol |
| 18:17.30 | Tain | Are you sure you just didn't go over the teacher's head and he was afraid to touch it? |
| 18:17.42 | Tem | Tain: I doubt that very seriously |
| 18:18.06 | Tem | Tain: this guy maintained a module of gcc for 10 years or so |
| 18:18.15 | Tain | Hey there's not always good ones teaching. :) |
| 18:18.18 | Tem | I'm going to wager he knows what he's doing |
| 18:18.54 | Tem | I think if anything went over anyone's head, it was this project over most of the class's heads |
| 18:19.38 | Codayus | Oh, well, at least the prof is competent. That's a bonus you can't always count on. |
| 18:19.59 | Tem | yeah, a very good thing |
| 18:20.08 | Tem | I've seen my share of ignorant profs |
| 18:20.13 | otravi | Naxxramas looks cool :O |
| 18:20.14 | Tem | it's not pretty |
| 18:20.19 | Codayus | And 20/20 with a class average of 15 is more fun than 24/20 with a class average of 19. :-) |
| 18:20.28 | Tain | What the hell, where the hell were these school teachers when I was 13? http://www.wkrn.com/news/pamela-rogers-faces-new-accusations |
| 18:20.35 | otravi | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/1p11/naxxramas/roadtodamnation.html << for those that haven't seen it |
| 18:20.54 | Tain | Hot teacher has sex with 13 year old, then sends him porn of herself after getting caught. |
| 18:20.54 | Tem | Nax sorta angers me |
| 18:21.10 | Tem | because there's a very high chance that I will *never* see it's insides |
| 18:22.10 | Tain | That's how it is. |
| 18:22.13 | Codayus | Could wait for the lvl cap to get bumped up enough. |
| 18:22.22 | Codayus | Eventually it'll be 5-mannable. :-D |
| 18:22.30 | Tain | You either join a guild that will do it, or make the guild you're in do it. |
| 18:22.34 | Codayus | (Well, probably not, but the principle stands.) |
| 18:22.39 | Tain | Like every other mmorpg that's ever existed. |
| 18:22.53 | Tem | I'm hoping to get my rogue that I'm leveling right now into raiding guild on this new server |
| 18:23.00 | Tem | preferably one that has already killed nef |
| 18:23.21 | Tem | even though I don't think any guild has killed nef on Hakkar |
| 18:23.24 | Tem | oh well... |
| 18:23.36 | Codayus | Gotta have some patience. |
| 18:23.45 | Tain | Goddamn that teacher is hot. |
| 18:24.11 | Codayus | My guild is now in our 2nd week of killing Domo. I won't be seeing BWL for a fair bit...nevermind AQ40 or Naxx. <shrug> I don't mind though. |
| 18:25.31 | Lucen | ooo...you have so much stuff to do still! |
| 18:25.33 | Shyva | Mc is boring when you have seen BWL / AQ40 |
| 18:25.40 | Tem | my main guild will probably kill Broodlord this week |
| 18:25.47 | Tem | but I'm sick of playing my mage |
| 18:25.58 | Codayus | I'm really enjoying my main character, which helps. |
| 18:26.11 | Shyva | We are fighting to the Twin Emperors this week |
| 18:26.24 | Codayus | We downed Onyxia for the 2nd time, and I got my t2 helm. So...yeah, hard not to be happy with the game. :-) |
| 18:26.36 | Shyva | And I enjoy the new bosses really much, and I like my class =) (priest) |
| 18:26.36 | Tem | especially now that I've realized that they haven't made a "good" change as far as mages are concerned for more than a year |
| 18:26.39 | Tain | So far I've still only enjoyed playing my Rogue. I kidn of liked Hunter but only solo. |
| 18:26.41 | Codayus | (for the 2nd time just yesterday) |
| 18:26.56 | Tem | Codayus: what class do you play? |
| 18:26.58 | Codayus | Priest |
| 18:27.01 | Tem | ah |
| 18:27.03 | Tain | Tem I haven't touched my 60 mage in at least six months. Actually possibly close to a year now. |
| 18:27.43 | Tem | mage changes better be spec-fucking-tacular or I probably won't play my mage anymore |
| 18:27.43 | Shyva | priests are fun, you need to focus :-D |
| 18:28.12 | Codayus | Every class deserves a class review like priests got. :-) |
| 18:28.36 | Tain | I'd start playing again if they introduced Pirates as a playable class. |
| 18:32.34 | hyperChipmunk | yar |
| 18:34.06 | id` | yarr! |
| 18:36.25 | Neronix | Hmm, Naxxramas has 4 wings? |
| 18:36.29 | Neronix | interesting |
| 18:39.13 | hyperChipmunk | yea, for more lift in low-pressure zones |
| 18:39.50 | Stylpe | Naxx is coming in 1.11? :D weeee |
| 18:45.31 | Shyva | Yep :-D |
| 18:45.41 | Shyva | naxx = 18 bosses or something likely :-D |
| 18:46.04 | Shyva | But as far as I know naxx has no wings Neronix o.0 |
| 18:48.14 | id` | otravi: tried cardbars, didnt like |
| 18:48.14 | id` | :p |
| 18:48.44 | Tain | Your opinion is incorrect. |
| 18:49.00 | id` | I think your statement is dubious. |
| 18:49.38 | Tain | CardBars may not do everything you want, but there's nothing not to like about what it actually does. |
| 18:50.36 | id` | Well I didn't say that I don't like what it does, I said that I didn't like it. |
| 18:50.49 | id` | Its a nice addon, its just not my style |
| 18:50.49 | id` | :p |
| 18:51.14 | id` | (But I think I'll copy some code for idButtonBars) |
| 18:52.17 | Codayus | One of these days, I should look at replacing DAB in my setup... |
| 18:57.00 | id` | hmm |
| 18:57.10 | id` | I have 64 addons :< |
| 18:57.33 | id` | I need to shrink that and grow my AddOn-Epeen |
| 18:58.06 | id` | anyone wann atake a look at my list and say 'this sucks that sucks you can replace that with this' etc? Maybe youll notice some nice addons too. |
| 19:00.10 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/addons-062407.txt |
| 19:01.19 | Neronix | What classes do you have? |
| 19:01.27 | id` | In dire need of replacement for some, but sometimes you just gotta outweigh quality and ease of use with ram usage |
| 19:01.37 | id` | Neronix: atm i have a lv 20 priest and a lv 7 druid |
| 19:01.54 | id` | Neronix: I made a fresh start on Mikma's server on EU :-) |
| 19:02.07 | Neronix | I see |
| 19:02.16 | id` | Where do you play? |
| 19:02.23 | Neronix | Hellscream EU |
| 19:02.25 | id` | k |
| 19:02.39 | Neronix | tbh, dunno if it was really a good idea |
| 19:02.46 | id` | why :p |
| 19:02.50 | Neronix | only went there because it had a decent Horde population |
| 19:02.54 | Neronix | size wise :P |
| 19:02.56 | Tain | For the Horde! |
| 19:02.57 | id` | hmmm |
| 19:03.12 | id` | So any suggestions tain? |
| 19:03.13 | id` | :D |
| 19:03.18 | Neronix | I sometimes wonder whether I'm somehow on allys by accident |
| 19:03.23 | Tain | Don't ask me, I don't play. |
| 19:03.30 | id` | Tain: really? since when |
| 19:03.30 | Neronix | and there's only 4 or so horde raiding guilds |
| 19:03.35 | id` | Tain: i mean on my addons |
| 19:03.39 | Neronix | whereas, allies have like 12. at least. |
| 19:03.58 | Stylpe | Guys, do you think it's worth it to support localisatino of chat commands? |
| 19:04.06 | Tain | I havent' seriously played in about a year. I mostly log on to test things or if I'm bored I'll go in spurts of a couple weeks at a time of soloing. |
| 19:04.06 | id` | Some day ill be leet enough for Mikma's guild :P |
| 19:04.31 | Tain | I don't support localization of anything. Make the rest of the world learn American. |
| 19:04.31 | Neronix | what server? |
| 19:04.35 | Stylpe | Or is that overboard? |
| 19:04.41 | id` | Tain wins! |
| 19:04.42 | Neronix | American? -_- |
| 19:04.53 | Tain | Yeah none of this "colour" nonsense. |
| 19:04.57 | Tain | Damn Brits. |
| 19:05.04 | id` | Tain: so you dont like pvp? |
| 19:05.04 | Neronix | I'll have my colour over your color anyday |
| 19:05.09 | Tain | Bastardizing our good American English! |
| 19:05.24 | id` | Tain: I dont play that seriously either, but i do like pvp. usually make a char upto lv 19 and the go in wsg |
| 19:05.24 | Tain | Actually id` I don't like pvp. |
| 19:05.26 | Neronix | I can say the same thing about the US :P |
| 19:05.37 | id` | I had this priest with ALL the best items, like 5-6 blues |
| 19:05.38 | id` | at lv 19 |
| 19:05.40 | Tain | Of course you can Neronix, that's why it was somewhat of an ironic statement. |
| 19:05.47 | id` | but then i realised i was on pve and not pvp |
| 19:05.58 | id` | and the queue was empty _all_ _the_ _time_ |
| 19:06.18 | id` | so that kinda sucked |
| 19:06.18 | Neronix | id`: If you use bongos, you don't need rangecolour |
| 19:06.18 | id` | .. |
| 19:06.21 | Tain | See it's funny for me to say that the British are bastardizing the English language when it started with them and it's truly the Americans who have taken it upon themselves to change things. |
| 19:06.48 | id` | Neronix: noted, I wont load it :) (but keep it around for when i change) |
| 19:06.49 | Neronix | Heh |
| 19:06.51 | Tain | However in our egocentric view Americans are happy to claim that our way is best and others are wrong even when we've come into it well after the fact. |
| 19:07.15 | Tain | And anwyay the truth is we can blame it all on Canada. |
| 19:07.21 | Neronix | Ya |
| 19:07.21 | id` | haha |
| 19:07.44 | Neronix | id`: You might not need Reputation |
| 19:08.05 | id` | loved that cartoon |
| 19:08.05 | id` | :p |
| 19:08.16 | id` | Neronix: right |
| 19:08.20 | Neronix | If you just ise it to see the numbers on the rep window, then Blizz implemented it themselves |
| 19:08.26 | id` | orly? |
| 19:08.30 | id` | when?where? |
| 19:08.49 | Neronix | 1.9 I think |
| 19:09.05 | Neronix | mouseover the progress bar and it'll pop up the numbers |
| 19:09.26 | id` | meh i knew that but i wanna see them always |
| 19:09.27 | id` | :> |
| 19:09.40 | id` | ack my english sucks |
| 19:09.46 | id` | more caffeine >_> |
| 19:10.00 | id` | (it is the cure to anything computer related) |
| 19:10.27 | Neronix | heh |
| 19:11.08 | Neronix | Friend of mine once said "Rule #1 of coding: Always have a good supply of pro plus" :P |
| 19:12.22 | id` | =) |
| 19:12.57 | Tain | ~laziness |
| 19:12.59 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 19:13.24 | id` | purl wins |
| 19:13.27 | purl | i heard wins is the Windows Internet Naming Service |
| 19:13.27 | Neronix | id`: does Gemologist say what veins drop what gems? |
| 19:13.28 | id` | ~botsnack |
| 19:13.28 | purl | id`: aw, gee |
| 19:13.42 | id` | yes |
| 19:13.55 | Neronix | Mendeleev does the same thing |
| 19:14.00 | id` | actually i dont need any of those |
| 19:14.01 | id` | yeah |
| 19:14.02 | id` | :p |
| 19:14.13 | Neronix | That's all I can suggest for now |
| 19:14.27 | id` | linkSnag thats a handy thing |
| 19:14.43 | Tain | I think id really just wants someone to play the entire game for him so he can sit back and yell commands |
| 19:14.50 | id` | if you click a link you get an editbox with the link in it selectec with a 'copy' button next to it |
| 19:15.02 | id` | lol Tain |
| 19:15.08 | Neronix | Er, wait. When I eventually cure my retardation enough to go and write unit frames, you might want to replace perl :P |
| 19:15.19 | Tain | "Always be wary of any helpful item that weighs less than its operating manual." |
| 19:15.28 | id` | Well i do enjoy observing how other people work (and how i am not) |
| 19:15.33 | Tain | I still do like the look of the perl unit frames. |
| 19:15.43 | Neronix | Same here |
| 19:15.44 | id` | yeah |
| 19:15.54 | Neronix | I'll base the look off of them |
| 19:15.54 | Tain | I was using the AUF version at one point |
| 19:15.56 | id` | ill ditch Lexan too |
| 19:16.00 | id` | useless piece of crap |
| 19:16.08 | Tain | But, I am using WatchDog now and like it. |
| 19:16.09 | id` | *cough* |
| 19:16.09 | Neronix | /cry |
| 19:16.15 | id` | just kidding i wub that thing |
| 19:16.17 | id` | :D |
| 19:16.22 | Neronix | lol :P |
| 19:16.34 | id` | lemme try watchdog :> |
| 19:17.01 | Tem | oh balls |
| 19:17.06 | Tem | I might have to do work at work |
| 19:17.12 | Tain | Damn them. |
| 19:17.13 | id` | heh |
| 19:17.27 | id` | i spend 60% on forums and irc |
| 19:17.30 | id` | at work |
| 19:17.31 | Tem | oh well. I guess once every 2 weeks isn't a bad average |
| 19:17.40 | id` | work in between |
| 19:17.40 | id` | :p |
| 19:17.57 | Tem | speaking of which... I need to get moving |
| 19:18.03 | id` | cya |
| 19:18.38 | kergoth | i'm 26 today. i can feel 30 hunting me down. boo aging. |
| 19:19.06 | id` | happy birthday to you |
| 19:19.07 | id` | happy birthday to you |
| 19:19.10 | Neronix | Happy birthday |
| 19:19.14 | id` | happy birthday dear kergoth |
| 19:19.16 | id` | happy birthday to you |
| 19:19.17 | id` | \o/ |
| 19:19.24 | Neronix | /dance |
| 19:19.39 | id` | now im 19 :-) |
| 19:19.49 | kergoth | ah, happy belated birthday |
| 19:19.57 | Stylpe | Happy birthday kergoth! :D |
| 19:20.05 | kergoth | aging doesnt suck quite as much at 18 and 19 |
| 19:20.39 | Stylpe | Turned 22 a month and a half ago myself |
| 19:20.49 | Tain | hah I looked 30 in the rear-view mirror a while back. |
| 19:21.13 | Tain | Funny how there's a bunch of people here with close birthdays though. |
| 19:21.25 | Tain | Kaelten was a copule weeks ago, mine was the day after his |
| 19:21.26 | Neronix | another 2 and a half months until my bday >.> |
| 19:21.28 | Stylpe | kergoth, do y uo think it's overboard to enable localisation of chat commands? |
| 19:21.52 | Stylpe | I have the strangest typos |
| 19:22.52 | kergoth | i'd argue against that for the same reason that i'd argue against localizing function names. _interfaces_ shouldnt change based on language. only _presentation_ should. |
| 19:22.56 | kergoth | imho |
| 19:23.42 | Tain | That's why you should use chat commands like Visor! Meaningless in any language. |
| 19:23.43 | Stylpe | Your words are wise. |
| 19:23.53 | Stylpe | Tain, lol =P |
| 19:24.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:24.35 | kergoth | thats actually a good point against natural language interfaces |
| 19:24.53 | hyperChipmunk | lol that's great |
| 19:26.27 | Neronix | NanoStats vs nStats |
| 19:26.29 | Neronix | Vote! :O |
| 19:27.31 | Neronix | I should actually present the question first: What's a better name? |
| 19:28.04 | Tain | NanoStats is easier to say. |
| 19:30.02 | Neronix | NanoStats it is |
| 19:34.29 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/errors/WoWScrnShot_042706_213323.jpg |
| 19:34.45 | id` | I dont like how using [center] and [right] shifts the center off the center.... |
| 19:35.03 | id` | i mean i really want it in the center, lol |
| 19:36.05 | Neronix | id`: what server you on? |
| 19:36.26 | id` | Nordrassil |
| 19:36.29 | Neronix | I feel like rerolling before it's too late |
| 19:37.47 | id` | Well im alliance |
| 19:37.56 | id` | (Though I'd like to play horder) |
| 19:38.00 | id` | Neronix: do you like pvp? |
| 19:38.08 | id` | meybe we can both reroll on a pvp server |
| 19:38.09 | Neronix | I do BGs occasionally |
| 19:38.10 | id` | maybe* |
| 19:38.17 | Neronix | No way I'm going on a pvp server |
| 19:38.21 | id` | I prefer pvp servers |
| 19:38.22 | id` | why not |
| 19:38.23 | id` | :p |
| 19:38.34 | id` | Its more realistic imo |
| 19:38.38 | Neronix | people are dicks to each other |
| 19:38.52 | kergoth | it may be realistic, but after the 14th time getting ganked trying to quest, it gets old |
| 19:38.57 | Neronix | asshats will make life hell (not just ganking) |
| 19:38.59 | id` | keke i just made 5G |
| 19:39.10 | Neronix | and I kinda suck at pvp :P |
| 19:39.14 | id` | lol :> |
| 19:39.21 | id` | i love it >_> |
| 19:39.42 | id` | hah i owned this warrior that thought he was going to totally own me in wsg |
| 19:39.53 | id` | so he charges and i just stand there while he hacks away |
| 19:40.03 | id` | then i heal and start wanding and healing and wanding |
| 19:40.11 | id` | and when hes about 40% hp he gets scared |
| 19:40.15 | id` | and tries to run |
| 19:40.17 | id` | ke ke ke |
| 19:40.43 | Neronix | Heh |
| 19:40.48 | id` | Neronix: do you like horde? |
| 19:41.20 | Neronix | It's ok |
| 19:41.44 | Neronix | If the Allies on your server aren't monkeys on speed, I won't mind rejoining them |
| 19:47.36 | id` | I made an undead rogue |
| 19:47.40 | id` | Graveworm |
| 19:47.42 | id` | kickass name |
| 19:47.50 | id` | (If you know the band its even better) |
| 19:47.59 | Qaarh | that would even work as a name on a roleplay server... no clue about the band though heheh |
| 19:48.03 | id` | on Nordrassil |
| 19:48.11 | Qaarh | I prefer RPPvE-servers |
| 19:48.13 | id` | Its a black metal band ;) |
| 19:48.15 | Qaarh | heheh |
| 19:48.20 | Qaarh | I thought so ;) |
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| 20:11.34 | id` | ok |
| 20:11.38 | id` | im locing watchdog |
| 20:11.41 | id` | loving* |
| 20:11.59 | id` | except for the part where it does weird stuff when you use [left] and [center] |
| 20:12.00 | id` | :p |
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| 20:27.16 | Qaarh | ok, I'm definitely sure there is a connection between having low mana and taking extra hard hits.. *grumble* |
| 20:33.00 | Tem | Tekkub: you around? |
| 20:33.11 | Tekkub | leaving for work in like 5 min |
| 20:33.20 | Tem | I took a look inside Metrognome |
| 20:33.28 | Tem | and I had a thought |
| 20:33.40 | Tekkub | did it hurt? |
| 20:33.44 | Tem | yeah, a bit |
| 20:33.53 | Tem | you aren't always turning off your OnUpdate when you should |
| 20:34.09 | Tem | you are going off of Register and Unregister |
| 20:34.19 | Tem | just because a timer is registered doesn't mean it's running |
| 20:34.35 | Tekkub | erm. true it should be in start stop |
| 20:34.45 | Tekkub | funny braindead logic for you |
| 20:34.58 | Tem | heh |
| 20:35.10 | Tem | and another thing that's been bugging me |
| 20:35.15 | Tekkub | pop a reminder for me on my portal so I remember to fix that |
| 20:35.31 | Tem | if Timex is so 'bad' at repeated schedules, wtf is it doing managing bars? |
| 20:35.55 | Tekkub | SHORT TERM repeated schedules |
| 20:36.11 | Tekkub | you tried using timex for say, a 0.2 sec repeating timer? |
| 20:36.16 | Tekkub | not purdy on the resources |
| 20:36.17 | Tem | um |
| 20:36.20 | Tem | the bars |
| 20:36.28 | Tem | they repeat every 0.2ish |
| 20:36.49 | Tain | Time for Tembars! |
| 20:36.54 | Tekkub | yes but their scheduling isn't |
| 20:37.07 | Tem | the way it does bars iirc is it creates a repeating schedule for everytime it needs to update them |
| 20:37.16 | Tekkub | timex's schedule reschedule every time their done basically |
| 20:37.25 | Tekkub | so 5 reschedules a second... |
| 20:37.31 | Tem | no thanks |
| 20:37.50 | Tem | I never liked the Timex API... |
| 20:37.54 | Tekkub | I dunno, I'll look at it later, gott go |
| 20:38.28 | Tekkub | timex just needs to use metro as it's internal timer instead of an OnUpdate frame :) |
| 20:38.43 | Tain | I just time everything in my head anyway. |
| 20:40.21 | kergoth | heh, timex vs metrognome is not unlike the differences between the timing methods in the linux kernel. add_timer/mod_timer is the continuously rescheduling variety |
| 20:41.56 | [MoonWolf] | tekkub http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6594/screen111113nx.jpg |
| 20:44.15 | [MoonWolf] | or anybody else willing to comment on how that screenie looks |
| 20:45.57 | Tem | [MoonWolf]: is that a KCI plugin that puts mendy stuff in the seperated tooltip? |
| 20:46.46 | [MoonWolf] | no, this is going to be a setting in mendeleev in version 0.7 and up. |
| 20:46.59 | [MoonWolf] | i wanted to do enhanced tooltip too |
| 20:47.06 | Lucen | i like that a -lot- moonwolf |
| 20:47.10 | Tem | sexy |
| 20:47.13 | [MoonWolf] | but that is badly documented. |
| 20:47.32 | Tem | but turn off KCI's stacksize indicator |
| 20:47.59 | [MoonWolf] | actually, i dont know if you can do that, but you can turn off mendeleev stacksize indicator. |
| 20:48.54 | [MoonWolf] | I am using builtin KCI functionality and that wont let me touch the kci tooltip itself. i only a series of strings to be added to a tooltip. |
| 20:49.07 | [MoonWolf] | took like 15 lines of code. |
| 20:52.23 | id` | cladhaire: highlight highlight |
| 20:52.59 | id` | cladhaire: i sent you an email about the svn about a week ago. guess you didnt get it. I'd like a username/pass. You can make it random (the pass). |
| 20:53.36 | hyperChipmunk | hum |
| 20:54.23 | hyperChipmunk | is there any way to pass item info from a link? |
| 20:55.20 | Tem | what do you mean? |
| 20:55.24 | Eraphine|Lab | you mean, to strip a link? |
| 20:55.36 | [MoonWolf] | get item info from a link |
| 20:55.40 | [MoonWolf] | or remove it ? |
| 20:55.41 | hyperChipmunk | like |
| 20:56.00 | hyperChipmunk | if I want to add items to my BulkMail autosend |
| 20:56.06 | hyperChipmunk | using a slash command |
| 20:56.47 | [MoonWolf] | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo ? |
| 20:56.49 | hyperChipmunk | and i type /bulkmail autosend add Fooalt [link] [link] [link] |
| 20:57.28 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but how do you get the itemstring? |
| 20:57.32 | hyperChipmunk | from a link |
| 20:59.11 | [MoonWolf] | "iitem:(%d+):%d+:%d+:%d+" this is the lua matching string for itemlinks. |
| 20:59.16 | [MoonWolf] | oops |
| 20:59.21 | [MoonWolf] | item:* |
| 20:59.44 | hyperChipmunk | every time I try to pass an itemlink from chat to a function, it goes crazy |
| 20:59.51 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 21:02.26 | hyperChipmunk | wow tain |
| 21:02.31 | hyperChipmunk | that was a remarkable likeness |
| 21:02.49 | hyperChipmunk | I almost thought it was mira talking for a moment |
| 21:03.32 | [MoonWolf] | your not bitter are you tain :) |
| 21:03.38 | hyperChipmunk | he's definitely one of those "if I complain about something that's good, it'll make me look smarter than everyone, because only I can see the flaws" |
| 21:03.41 | hyperChipmunk | types |
| 21:05.42 | Tain | I'm a bitter fuck. |
| 21:18.59 | id` | Neronix: you gunna reroll then? :p |
| 21:19.08 | id` | im having fun with this undead rogue |
| 21:19.51 | [MoonWolf] | rogues change very little after lvl 35 or so, the only thing different is the damage amounts you do. |
| 21:21.01 | Elkano | well, with 40 you get freefall, but that's all |
| 21:21.38 | Tain | Yeah, but the talents can change a lot what you do as a Rogue. |
| 21:21.44 | Elkano | at 60 some rogues will respec from swort to dagger but no must |
| 21:23.57 | Tain | I'd still really like a reason to spec unarmed. |
| 21:24.51 | Neronix | id`: I'll make a warrior soon and see how I like it |
| 21:25.13 | Neronix | I've got exams starting next week though :( |
| 21:27.42 | Elkano | well, Tain, I'm working towards a 30/21/0 spec |
| 21:29.09 | Elkano | but you're totaly right that the class plays different when spect different. |
| 21:30.35 | Tain | I still enjoy Rogue the most out of everything I've played. |
| 21:32.02 | hyperChipmunk | /script BulkMail:LinkTest([Gnomish Death Ray]) |
| 21:32.19 | hyperChipmunk | [string "BulkMail:LinkTest([Gnomi..."]:1:unexpected symbol near `|' |
| 21:32.54 | Elkano | /script BulkMail:LinkTest("[Gnomish Death Ray]") |
| 21:33.45 | hyperChipmunk | yea I tried that; it works as ace.GetItemInfoFromLink("[Gnomish Death Ray]") |
| 21:34.14 | hyperChipmunk | but BulkMail:LinkTest...which is basically print(ace.GetItemInfoFromLink(l)) |
| 21:34.38 | hyperChipmunk | just gives me the first line |
| 21:35.01 | hyperChipmunk | and I don't want to be telling the users to put quotes around stuff |
| 21:35.16 | hyperChipmunk | and any attempt to concatenate 'em on gives the unexpected symbol near | error |
| 21:37.08 | hyperChipmunk | item links don't tostring correctly or something |
| 21:37.55 | Elkano | how about using a slash command? |
| 21:38.21 | Elkano | this way you wouldn't have to convert to string |
| 21:38.33 | hyperChipmunk | that's what I want it fo |
| 21:38.34 | hyperChipmunk | r |
| 21:38.52 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 21:39.10 | hyperChipmunk | if I do it in a slash command, will the user have to type "[Link]" or can they just [Link] |
| 21:39.33 | Elkano | but when using /script you'll have to add the quotes in order to have it interpreted as string and not as a variable |
| 21:39.47 | hyperChipmunk | aha |
| 21:39.50 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 21:41.05 | Elkano | when you build the slash command it will be given to the handling function as content of a variable so it's a string :) |
| 21:43.19 | hyperChipmunk | cool; thanks =D |
| 21:43.42 | Elkano | nvm :) |
| 21:46.08 | Tem | hey Cairenn |
| 21:46.13 | Cairenn | hey :) |
| 21:47.15 | hyperChipmunk | Cairenn: question |
| 21:47.24 | hyperChipmunk | why would anyone ever want to request a bug? |
| 21:47.24 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: anser |
| 21:47.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:47.42 | Cairenn | ummm, they don't? they request requests and report bugs |
| 21:47.42 | hyperChipmunk | when I go to my admin area |
| 21:47.48 | Cairenn | and that was *answer* btw |
| 21:47.49 | hyperChipmunk | in the Feature Request |
| 21:47.52 | hyperChipmunk | yea sure it was |
| 21:48.10 | hyperChipmunk | there's that dropdown list for changing the status of the feature |
| 21:48.25 | Tain | I have some bugs I'd like to see added |
| 21:48.32 | hyperChipmunk | Wont(sic) Fix, Already added, etc. |
| 21:48.39 | hyperChipmunk | at the bottom it says, "Move to Bug Requests" |
| 21:48.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:48.58 | Cairenn | okay, thanks, I'll point it out to Dolby |
| 21:49.11 | hyperChipmunk | have him fix Wont too =P |
| 21:49.33 | Cairenn | heh, okay |
| 21:49.40 | Cairenn | thanks for pointing it out |
| 21:50.13 | Tain | Can we also get new status options of, "RTFM" and "STFU noob" |
| 21:50.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:50.20 | hyperChipmunk | omg yes |
| 21:50.36 | hyperChipmunk | that would be awesom |
| 21:50.37 | hyperChipmunk | e |
| 21:50.45 | Cairenn | so tempting to put that some times, isn't it? |
| 21:51.09 | Tain | I would suggest, "Die in a fire" but that may be going too far. |
| 21:51.45 | Cairenn | indeed ... stfu noob is so much more civilized |
| 21:51.55 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:52.00 | Cairenn | hey ckknight |
| 21:52.02 | Tain | stfu noob! |
| 21:52.16 | ckknight | man, I died in a fire once |
| 21:52.22 | ckknight | not a pleasant experience |
| 21:52.55 | Tain | Aw man you're so lucky, I never get to die |
| 21:53.53 | Elkano | you don't? well, you could be a good subject for torturing :) where's my iron maiden? ;) |
| 21:54.26 | ckknight | Tain, it's not that great, the respawn time is pretty slow |
| 21:54.48 | id` | Neronix: k maybe we can play together then ;) |
| 21:54.53 | id` | Neronix: my rogue is lv 8 |
| 21:55.33 | Tain | Your Rogue wears rouge. |
| 21:57.15 | Tain | Chocolate fudge covered graham crackers are pretty damn tasty. |
| 22:03.47 | Codayus | hmm, almost done with finals... |
| 22:04.00 | Codayus | yay |
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| 22:14.27 | Cairenn | Tem: you still there? |
| 22:14.31 | Tem | yeha |
| 22:14.36 | Cairenn | want a laugh? |
| 22:14.44 | Tem | I need a laugh |
| 22:15.12 | Cairenn | SilverShadow, could you please do me a favour and pass along to whoever all needs to hear it that they are to stop coming to our site and downloading mods then uploading them to Curse. It really isn't appreciated. |
| 22:15.46 | Cairenn | (Devla of ui.wow): It wasn't me, I swear, Which mods? |
| 22:16.00 | Cairenn | me: A bunch by Tardmrr, at the very least, possibly others. I haven't checked. But the ones by Tardmrr I can prove. It needs to stop. It needs to stop now. |
| 22:16.01 | Cairenn | and Devla? I wouldn't talk much if I were you. I know that you don't doit personally, but someone(s) at ui.wow.net are still uploading modsthemselves. To my knowledge, you guys aren't pulling from here, but you*are* pulling from other places. Again, I have proof, so ... |
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| 22:16.15 | Cairenn | SilverShadow: *scratches her head* I'm pulling from everywhere... if the links are to the original page and the page says to contact the author on the one site... what is the issue? It's just helping to spread the bandwidth. *sighs* |
| 22:16.15 | Cairenn | Fine.. I'll stop. I just don't see the problem. It's posted publicly..any user can feel free to maintain the addon anywhere they wish... noone is stopping them. Some people actaully thanked me for it before.*shrugs* ment they didn't have to do the work. Guess everyone isdifferent. |
| 22:16.29 | Cairenn | Iriel: I suspect the problem is that some authors want more control over where there addon is available, or have had bad experiences with finding their code in places they didn't authorize it to be. There's a certain logic to this, for example if you find a severe bug in your addon and rush to update all the places you publish it, you'd be a bit annoyed if another site had grabbed a copy but didn't get the fixed u |
| 22:16.29 | Cairenn | Some mechanism by which authors could indicate that they're appreciatethis service might resolve the issue (even I suppose if it's a simpleopt-out rather than an opt-in). But that's just me, others may have adifferent opinion. |
| 22:16.29 | Cairenn | It's a much trickier proposition in the greater internet with per-clickand/or per-view revenue streams for the various hosting sites, the"share the bandwidth" argument is in a vaccum quite reasonable and verycommunity minded, but it might cause consequences elsewhere that havereal impact to the bottom line/viability of sites. I'm not on that sideof the table here, but working in eCommerce it's a valid issue. |
| 22:16.41 | Cairenn | Me: If you want to "assist" the user by "maintaining" their mod in an updated state for them, then contact them directly, ask for permission to do so, and get the files from them. |
| 22:16.41 | Cairenn | Contrary to the popular belief, Addons are not public domain. They arethe intellectual property of those that wrote them, unless they specifically state that they are releasing them under one of the public domain licenses. Otherwise, for someone to take their work and redistribute it (whether charging for it or not) without the express permission of the author is illegal. |
| 22:16.43 | Cairenn | Don't pull from our database. Pure and simple. Get it direct from theauthors, whether via email, them uploading, whatever. Not from our site. |
| 22:17.16 | Cairenn | so, it was SilverShadow that pulled your mods from WoWI and uploaded to CG |
| 22:18.05 | Cairenn | (all of that was in the private multi-site forum we host) |
| 22:18.52 | Tem | wow... |
| 22:18.54 | Tem | just |
| 22:18.56 | Tem | just wow |
| 22:19.05 | Cairenn | oh my ... http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?p=23390#post23390 |
| 22:20.38 | Codayus | heh, thats...kinda funny, really |
| 22:21.18 | Cairenn | oh my oh my ... Silver, in the post on Curse, tries to say that ALL addons ARE public domain |
| 22:21.28 | Tem | Contrary to the popular belief, Addons are not public domain. They arethe intellectual property of those that wrote them, unless they specifically state that they are releasing them under one of the public domain licenses. Otherwise, for someone to take their work and redistribute it (whether charging for it or not) without the express permission of the author is illegal. |
| 22:21.31 | Tem | QFT |
| 22:21.51 | Cairenn | "And it's not like you own any copyrights to -any- mod. All the files (accept maybe any custom graphics files you made) are all copyrighted by Blizzard. Their code, their functions, their language. I'm not saying this to be mean, but that's just the fact of it. People don't HAVE to credit you. It's polite, encouraged.. but not required. Someone can take your code, jumble it up, slap their name on it, and call it th |
| 22:21.55 | Tain | Way for someone to completely miss the point and embarass themselves in public. |
| 22:22.09 | Tem | yeah I was just reading that |
| 22:22.30 | Cairenn | she is WRONG |
| 22:23.05 | Lucen | the "their language" part is kinda funny |
| 22:23.38 | Tem | yeah |
| 22:23.43 | Codayus | yeah, that won't fly.... |
| 22:23.44 | Tem | since blizzard totally came up with Lua |
| 22:23.52 | Lucen | hehe |
| 22:24.07 | Tem | Cairenn: mind making a reply to that to rebut the ownership part? |
| 22:24.23 | Codayus | the only good side is that I can't imagine a mod authornsueing anyone over it...doesn't mean they couldn't, just that they probably won't. |
| 22:24.36 | Tem | I don't know enough about it to form a coherent argument without just pasting what you pasted here |
| 22:24.57 | Tain | Public post on the curse thread now, Tem. |
| 22:25.13 | Tem | huh? |
| 22:25.19 | Tem | oh, yeah I know that |
| 22:25.30 | Tem | I just don't know enough about the subject to properly reply |
| 22:25.50 | Tem | I don't understand copyright law, US, international or otherwise |
| 22:26.40 | Tain | Ah right. |
| 22:26.50 | Tain | Well I only think I do, but without any basis in fact. |
| 22:26.52 | Codayus | I understand it a bit, but...IANAL. |
| 22:27.13 | Tain | Everything I know about law I learned from slashdot user comments. |
| 22:27.45 | Codayus | Not only is the idea that Bliz owns the addons incredibly dodgy, all that means is that you're violating bliz copyrights by distributing them instead of the authors |
| 22:27.50 | Tem | And I think she completely missed ckknight's point about how authors are treated there. It's not how the cg admins treat authors, it's the complete lack of moderation on the file comments |
| 22:28.01 | Tem | the users there are *horrible* |
| 22:28.10 | Tain | Yeah. |
| 22:28.10 | Codayus | the idea that at any point this code is ending up in the public domain is just bizarre. where do these people GET these ideas? |
| 22:28.26 | Cairenn | IANAL either, but still |
| 22:28.41 | Cairenn | I've been dealing with this stuff for long enough that I *do* know that |
| 22:28.44 | Codayus | Show me written authorization where someone said you could distribute it, OR try and tell me YOU are the author. otherwise, no dice. |
| 22:29.11 | Tem | hmm |
| 22:29.27 | Tem | my dad is the financial officer at a law firm... |
| 22:29.28 | Codayus | (Admittedly, if Bliz did own it, that means Tem doesn't have standing to sue. But it doesn't make distributing it any more right. And, obviously they don't own it.) |
| 22:29.34 | Codayus | Close! |
| 22:29.36 | Codayus | :-) |
| 22:29.59 | Codayus | Heh |
| 22:30.30 | hyperChipmunk | d = dad()? |
| 22:31.21 | ckknight | Tain, what was my point? |
| 22:32.04 | Tem | ckknight: *cough* |
| 22:32.25 | Cairenn | anyway, I just copied over the applicable part of I wrote in the private forum to the post at CG |
| 22:32.45 | Tem | Codayus: yeah, that's where my understanding of the situation goes out the window |
| 22:33.02 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 22:33.13 | hyperChipmunk | Tem == Tain |
| 22:33.23 | ckknight | whoops |
| 22:33.27 | ckknight | Tem, what was my point? |
| 22:33.35 | ckknight | actually, it wasn't name completion, I misread it |
| 22:33.39 | Tem | I know |
| 22:33.47 | Tem | people misread Tem/Tain all the damn time |
| 22:34.11 | Codayus | Tem: I've had a few classes on the subject |
| 22:34.12 | hyperChipmunk | you're both short-Ts |
| 22:34.35 | hyperChipmunk | there ya go |
| 22:34.54 | Codayus | they make everyone hee take a quick crash course on basic legal concepts...IP rules are a bit part of it. (Harassment and hostile environment laws are most of the rest...) |
| 22:34.56 | ckknight | you're a tard. |
| 22:35.00 | Codayus | s/bit/big |
| 22:35.06 | hyperChipmunk | although I can never remember which of you is tardmrr either |
| 22:35.38 | tardmrr | ... |
| 22:44.51 | ckknight | woot |
| 22:45.18 | ckknight | fun new feature I've added to FuBar: similar to how plugins are arranged with drag and drop, now panels can too :-) |
| 22:46.11 | hyperChipmunk | just how many panels do you expect people to have O_o |
| 22:46.20 | Tain | One million. |
| 22:46.20 | tardmrr | yeah, seriously |
| 22:46.22 | kergoth | i could see blizzard enforcing rules on addon _licensing_, as your addons, by way of their usage of blizzard's apis, can be considered derived works of wow |
| 22:46.26 | kergoth | but copyright is quite independent |
| 22:46.27 | kergoth | silly people |
| 22:46.39 | Cairenn | kergoth: indeed |
| 22:46.56 | Tain | Yeah kergoth I almost made that point but figured that was just going too far into it, and I'm not sure really how that part would go. |
| 22:47.24 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, it doesn't matter |
| 22:47.26 | Tain | My past experience in somewhat similar but not the same areas was with Neverwinter Nights mods/addons, but Bioware had lots of specific legal wording around it. |
| 22:48.06 | hyperChipmunk | well NWN is rather different |
| 22:48.19 | hyperChipmunk | that's content, not interface |
| 22:49.17 | Tain | There's similarities to the idea of modifying the game. |
| 22:49.25 | Tain | It's also "not the same" as I already said. |
| 22:50.46 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but they don't have to worry about writers in wow...there's no original storytelling in mods =) |
| 22:51.33 | hyperChipmunk | most people don't think of programming as a creative art |
| 22:51.43 | Tain | The US Copyright law does. |
| 22:51.57 | Tain | "The Copyright Act now reaches architectural design, software, the graphic arts, motion pictures, and sound recordings." |
| 22:53.01 | Cairenn | the main point to ALL of this being that those of us in both this channel and the lounge know better |
| 22:53.17 | Cairenn | addon authors most certainly DO have rights (and copyrights) |
| 22:53.29 | hyperChipmunk | maybe they don't, in france =p |
| 22:53.37 | Neronix | pmed an admin to have my mod removed |
| 22:53.47 | Neronix | I can't stand that place anymore >.> |
| 22:53.49 | Cairenn | <== long time advocate of addon author rights |
| 22:54.14 | Cairenn | the reason you will NEVER see us upload mods without express permission |
| 22:54.30 | Cairenn | and even then, we'll ask that the authors do the uploading themselves |
| 22:54.38 | Cairenn | anything else is just flat out wrong |
| 22:55.01 | hyperChipmunk | well happy mod authors make happy mods |
| 22:55.09 | hyperChipmunk | it's only sensible =p |
| 22:56.14 | Cairenn | we do our best |
| 22:56.27 | Cairenn | I don't claim that we are perfect, or that we don't make mistakes |
| 22:56.42 | Cairenn | but we try damn hard, and if we screw up, we don't get defensive, we apologize |
| 22:56.54 | CIA-13 | 03neriak * r1054 10gfxToggle/gfxToggle.lua: |
| 22:56.54 | CIA-13 | gfxToggle: minor fixes, fixed list function, removed Util: TableIsEmpty because |
| 22:56.54 | CIA-13 | it doesn't work when it's embedded in the Utils. I decided to use next(table) ~= |
| 22:56.54 | CIA-13 | nil instead. Removed most debug messages and the compost:Stats in List() |
| 22:56.56 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 22:58.10 | weab | such humility |
| 22:58.23 | weab | you're better than curse. say it! |
| 22:58.27 | Cairenn | nope |
| 22:58.32 | Cairenn | we're different than curse |
| 22:58.45 | weab | :P |
| 22:58.46 | Cairenn | we view things differently, we do things differently |
| 22:58.46 | Codayus | A lot better than curse. also ui.wow... |
| 22:58.50 | Tain | Little, yellow, different. |
| 22:58.54 | Cairenn | whether that is better or worse, /shrug |
| 22:59.12 | tardmrr | I vote better |
| 22:59.30 | Cairenn | that's just cause you want to get in my pants |
| 22:59.34 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.43 | CIA-13 | 03neriak * r1055 10FuBar_gfxToggleGUI/ (FuBar_gfxToggleGUI.toc gfxToggleGUI.lua): gfxToggleGUI: updated to FuBar 1.1, now uses DewDropLib and TabletLib, removed Util: TableIsEmpty because it doesn't work when it's embedded in the Utils. I decided to use next(table) ~= nil instead. |
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| 23:01.52 | Qaarh | ok, I don't know what I'm still doing up... good night, people |
| 23:02.05 | Neriak | hi |
| 23:02.21 | Cairenn | hey Neriak |
| 23:02.24 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1056 10FuBar/PanelClass.lua: FuBar - now can change the position of panels in the attaches state with drag and drop. |
| 23:03.11 | tardmrr | ckknight: nice touch with the radio buttons |
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| 23:03.12 | kergoth | why didnt i take a vacation day? |
| 23:03.15 | snurre | meow |
| 23:03.17 | kergoth | working on one's birthday is the devil |
| 23:03.23 | kergoth | foo. |
| 23:03.37 | ckknight | Cairenn, I like your policy of treating developers like they're people |
| 23:03.50 | Neriak | ckknight: Is it intended that you're using radio buttons in the FuBar Panel Menu now ? |
| 23:03.50 | Cairenn | kergoth: Happy Birthday! |
| 23:03.57 | Cairenn | ckknight: weird concept, huh? |
| 23:03.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:04.08 | Neriak | zOMG! happy b-day kergoth !! |
| 23:04.08 | ckknight | hey, happy birthday |
| 23:04.14 | ckknight | Neriak, why? |
| 23:04.23 | Neriak | becuae it's looking ugly ;) |
| 23:04.33 | Neriak | and I don't get the sense of it |
| 23:04.46 | ckknight | it's pretty simple.. |
| 23:05.41 | Neriak | Is it to optically separate the detach/anchor functions from the others? |
| 23:05.58 | *** topic/#wowace by Cairenn -> |wowace.com | ace.pastebin.com | Understanding is a three edged sword. Your side, their side, and the truth. Happy Birthday Kergoth! |
| 23:06.10 | kergoth | thanks all |
| 23:06.19 | kergoth | 26... 30 approaches. |
| 23:06.24 | snurre | hrmf, nobody wishing me a happy birthday :( |
| 23:06.29 | ckknight | Neriak, no, it's to group the detach/anchors together |
| 23:06.43 | Neriak | oh btw: I love DrewDrop and Tablet, just brilliant :) |
| 23:06.45 | ckknight | yea, at 30, you're like already dead |
| 23:06.50 | ckknight | Dewdrop |
| 23:06.55 | Neriak | yeah Dew |
| 23:06.57 | Neriak | sorry |
| 23:07.00 | weab | kergoth: the earth circled around the sun yet another time! did you think it would make it this year? |
| 23:07.03 | ckknight | Neriak, if you have any API suggestions, let me know |
| 23:07.13 | Neriak | sure |
| 23:07.28 | kergoth | weab: i'm generally more concerned about my ability to make it another year, rather than the earth :P |
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| 23:07.53 | tardmrr | cladhaire: you around? |
| 23:07.54 | Tain | Screw the Earth, what did it ever do for you? |
| 23:08.11 | hyperChipmunk | provided water, an atmosphere, solid ground... |
| 23:08.12 | cladhaire | tardmrr: Yeah, just finished dinner, whats up? |
| 23:08.14 | Neriak | ckknight: the best about TabletLib is the children argument .. totally awesome :) |
| 23:08.25 | tardmrr | cladhaire: perfect raid was broken yesterday |
| 23:08.31 | ckknight | yea, having it tiered makes things pretty well structured |
| 23:08.34 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 23:08.34 | tardmrr | all sorts of nasty |
| 23:08.40 | cladhaire | What versino of PerfectRaid? |
| 23:08.43 | tardmrr | I was getting svn |
| 23:08.45 | tardmrr | er |
| 23:08.46 | cladhaire | that's why |
| 23:08.47 | ckknight | I'm trying to get a way to have it work in both a procedural and a tiered fashion, side by side |
| 23:08.53 | cladhaire | the ;last commit message says "this is horribly broken" |
| 23:08.55 | cladhaire | actually =) |
| 23:08.59 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 23:09.10 | tardmrr | I was getting "Attempt to index AceLib" or something |
| 23:09.11 | hyperChipmunk | you have to go to rev...sec |
| 23:09.19 | hyperChipmunk | 968 or something |
| 23:09.19 | cladhaire | use WoWI release |
| 23:09.25 | cladhaire | its the best bet right now =) |
| 23:09.25 | tardmrr | I was going to revert it, but I didn't have time between WSG games |
| 23:09.28 | cladhaire | well I restructure. |
| 23:09.31 | hyperChipmunk | 868 |
| 23:09.37 | hyperChipmunk | [20] [staharaj@hyperion]$ svn -r868 checkout http://svn.wowace.com/root/trunk/PerfectRaid |
| 23:09.44 | cladhaire | PerfectRaid-0.3-Beta works well =) |
| 23:09.51 | cladhaire | or grab the tag |
| 23:10.01 | hyperChipmunk | you put my patch in? |
| 23:10.15 | cladhaire | any way works =) |
| 23:10.15 | Neriak | but the ghost bug's still in there, isn't it cladhaire ? |
| 23:10.16 | cladhaire | no |
| 23:10.21 | cladhaire | Neriak: What ghost bug? |
| 23:10.22 | hyperChipmunk | >8( |
| 23:10.26 | Neriak | I mean in WoWI release |
| 23:10.39 | cladhaire | what ghost bug? |
| 23:10.41 | Neriak | the one that I submitted |
| 23:10.44 | cladhaire | ive never been able to reproduce it. |
| 23:10.46 | Neriak | letme check my Bugsack SV |
| 23:11.57 | Neriak | [339] = "[21:40-814] PerfectRaid\\PerfectRaid.lua:366: attempt to compare nil with string\ |
| 23:12.06 | cladhaire | can you reproduce it? |
| 23:12.08 | Neriak | [348] = "[22:03-831] PerfectRaid\\PerfectRaid.lua:364: attempt to compare nil with string\ |
| 23:12.11 | cladhaire | thats just a general sort error. |
| 23:12.21 | cladhaire | for when you dont' exist as a member of the raid. |
| 23:12.37 | Neriak | hm probably not, since I don't know what revision of Ace I've been using when that error occured |
| 23:12.43 | cladhaire | its not an Ace issue. |
| 23:12.45 | cladhaire | =) |
| 23:12.50 | Neriak | [347] = "[21:16-830] Ace\\AceEvent.lua:81: attempt to call field `?' (a nil value)\ |
| 23:12.57 | cladhaire | that one could be =) |
| 23:13.03 | Neriak | this was right before the perfectraid error |
| 23:13.07 | tardmrr | that one is cladhaire's fault |
| 23:13.09 | cladhaire | install 1.3 Ace and 0.3-Beta PR and you should be fine |
| 23:13.10 | cladhaire | =) |
| 23:13.14 | tardmrr | he broke ace |
| 23:13.17 | Neriak | aye ;) |
| 23:13.22 | cladhaire | neg |
| 23:13.26 | cladhaire | i didn't break shit =) |
| 23:13.31 | Neriak | you did ^^ |
| 23:13.35 | tardmrr | Kael said you broke his Ace |
| 23:13.41 | cladhaire | nope. |
| 23:13.43 | cladhaire | Ace trunk is fine. |
| 23:13.48 | cladhaire | Ace Cladhair branch is broken =) |
| 23:13.48 | hyperChipmunk | wfm |
| 23:13.54 | cladhaire | but Cladhaire branch is always broken |
| 23:13.59 | *** join/#wowace Parak (n=profi@user-0cev737.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:15.14 | Neriak | clad: on patch 1.11 do you adopt frame:RegisterAllEvents() to AceEvent frame ? |
| 23:15.23 | tardmrr | no |
| 23:15.25 | cladhaire | no |
| 23:15.33 | Neriak | this one could shrink Fireshow for example |
| 23:15.56 | Neriak | Why? Afaik it's for debugging anyway? |
| 23:16.03 | tardmrr | well, we could add a RegisterAllEvents API |
| 23:16.14 | cladhaire | no reaqosn to.. anyone who wants tocan handle their own evernts =) |
| 23:16.24 | tardmrr | aye |
| 23:16.56 | Neriak | hm sure but that would mean eg. FireShow would need it's own dynamic frame ... but why reinvent the wheel when you could use Ace's frame ? |
| 23:17.40 | cladhaire | because you don't want the ace handler being called |
| 23:17.44 | cladhaire | you want to process the events directly |
| 23:18.23 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1057 10FuBar/ (5 files): |
| 23:18.23 | CIA-13 | FuBar - Switching profiles works again. |
| 23:18.23 | CIA-13 | Put attachment options into a submenu. |
| 23:19.08 | ckknight | there we go |
| 23:19.10 | Neriak | I stillt don't get the point, sorry :) |
| 23:19.19 | Neriak | But I trust on your words *g* |
| 23:19.32 | Neriak | you're the better coders hehe |
| 23:19.53 | Neriak | me padawan, you jedi |
| 23:20.14 | Tain | I couldn't code my way out of a wet paper method inherited from tissue. |
| 23:22.22 | ckknight | I bet I could, Tain |
| 23:22.49 | Neriak | ckknight: would you mind looking at my trunk of gfxToggleGUI to check if I used DewDrop and Tablet right and efficient? |
| 23:23.00 | ckknight | sure |
| 23:23.04 | Neronix`sleep | tissue:WetPaper = nil? |
| 23:23.10 | Neriak | I just wanna make sure I did thinks right, wanna release tomorrow |
| 23:23.16 | Neriak | things |
| 23:25.06 | ckknight | Neriak, get rid of all your 'keepShownOnClick',TRUE |
| 23:25.26 | ckknight | Dewdrop instead has closeWhenClicked |
| 23:25.48 | Neriak | ouch |
| 23:26.37 | ckknight | ouch? |
| 23:28.24 | ckknight | looks good besides that |
| 23:28.42 | Neriak | Yes, because I didn't check for the new arguments :) |
| 23:28.59 | Neriak | Ok I'm fixing this. Thank you for looking over it. |
| 23:29.00 | ckknight | I have a list of them |
| 23:29.54 | Neriak | I guess I can wait until you add an API.html |
| 23:30.16 | Neriak | It's my only FuBar 'baby' at the moment |
| 23:30.38 | ckknight | I added an API.html |
| 23:30.40 | ckknight | it's there |
| 23:30.45 | ckknight | I document all my libs |
| 23:30.45 | Neriak | woot :) |
| 23:31.05 | ckknight | it's not in the FuBar directory, it's on svn outright |
| 23:31.25 | ckknight | okay, I think I'm gonna upload FuBar to WoWI now |
| 23:31.49 | hyperChipmunk | *earthshattering* |
| 23:32.05 | hyperChipmunk | come quick, everybody! boss is gonna do an upload! |
| 23:32.16 | ckknight | I did a lot of stuff this time around |
| 23:32.21 | ckknight | drag and drop goodness etc. |
| 23:32.40 | Neriak | yay! |
| 23:33.00 | weab | he's been doing those damnedable uploads on nearly a daily basis |
| 23:33.02 | ckknight | and now you can change the x on attached panels |
| 23:33.03 | weab | i can't keep up! |
| 23:33.14 | ckknight | weab, would you rather I not work on it? |
| 23:33.25 | Neriak | no way ckknight |
| 23:33.46 | weab | only teasing you :P it's great |
| 23:33.51 | weab | you're a trooper |
| 23:33.59 | Neriak | I hope they never unlock the shackles that are attached to your desk |
| 23:34.01 | Neriak | ;) |
| 23:34.23 | ckknight | I don't have a desk |
| 23:34.25 | ckknight | I have a bed |
| 23:34.33 | ckknight | I'm on it now |
| 23:34.36 | ckknight | eating mac and cheese |
| 23:34.39 | Neriak | lol |
| 23:34.39 | ckknight | this is the life |
| 23:35.07 | hyperChipmunk | Schroeder style =) |
| 23:35.11 | ckknight | Scroeder? |
| 23:35.14 | ckknight | Schroeder*? |
| 23:35.27 | hyperChipmunk | the peanuts character |
| 23:35.37 | hyperChipmunk | that plays the piano |
| 23:35.38 | ckknight | don't know who that is |
| 23:35.40 | ckknight | Linus? |
| 23:35.49 | Neriak | it's Linus hyperChipmunk |
| 23:35.54 | hyperChipmunk | and he sort of sits and looks down at it |
| 23:36.20 | hyperChipmunk | http://images.google.com/images?q=schroeder |
| 23:36.50 | Neriak | hehe, you're right ... it's Schroeder |
| 23:37.02 | Neriak | funny they gave him a german name |
| 23:37.34 | Neriak | that was the name of our last president btw ;) |
| 23:37.38 | Neriak | Gerhard Schroeder |
| 23:38.14 | Neriak | and Linus is definitely skandinavian, isn't it ? |
| 23:39.12 | ckknight | crap, can't upload |
| 23:39.19 | ckknight | too many bugs |
| 23:39.26 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1058 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFu.lua: FuBar_BagFu - fixed menu bug. |
| 23:45.56 | ckknight | anyone know how to make a frame not take on its parent's alpha value? |
| 23:48.55 | hyperChipmunk | besides giving it its own, you mean? |
| 23:50.13 | CIA-13 | 03neriak * r1059 10FuBar_gfxToggleGUI/gfxToggleGUI.lua: gfxToggleGUI: removed all instances of keepShownOnClick and used closeWhenClicked instead for some options |
| 23:50.13 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1060 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - no longer reparents. |
| 23:50.36 | Codayus | hmmm. |
| 23:50.53 | Neriak | ckknight: just found a bug while playing with a detached tooltip |
| 23:51.00 | ckknight | hit me |
| 23:51.07 | hyperChipmunk | ~whaleslap ckknight |
| 23:51.09 | purl | ACTION beats ckknight upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 23:51.10 | Neriak | I wanted to change the color of it and then this error popped up |
| 23:51.11 | Neriak | [01:50-965] FuBar\FuBarTooltip.lua:1432: attempt to call method `GetColor' (a nil value) |
| 23:51.11 | Neriak | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:51.32 | Neriak | Is this fixed yet? |
| 23:51.35 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:51.41 | Neriak | kk :) |
| 23:51.41 | ckknight | I updated that a while ago |
| 23:51.56 | Neriak | but it's in the latest release on WoWI |
| 23:52.26 | *** part/#wowace Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce1.disney.com) |
| 23:53.41 | Neriak | ok bedtime now *sigh* -- I hate working. |
| 23:53.49 | Neriak | Goody night, y'all :) |
| 23:54.22 | Neriak | hmm where's that 'y' is coming from? .. I meant good, of course |
| 23:55.03 | tardmrr | test |
| 23:55.09 | tardmrr | s/test/./ |
| 23:56.09 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1061 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - fixed Autohiding |
| 23:56.10 | hyperChipmunk | profound |
| 23:56.35 | ckknight | alpha |
| 23:56.38 | ckknight | s/alpha// |
| 23:58.32 | cladhaire | anyone happen to know the blizzard raid UI functino we need to block in order to stop it fro loading? |
| 23:59.30 | hyperChipmunk | UI_SuckMemoryUsage() |
| 23:59.38 | cladhaire | wow u suck |
| 23:59.47 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
