| 00:04.18 | Mikma | god damn max payne 2 is good fun |
| 00:04.27 | Mikma | too bad i have seem to list my Operation Flashpoint |
| 00:05.28 | Tain | I fired up Eve Online for the first time this weekend. |
| 00:06.58 | Mikma | s/list/lost/ |
| 00:07.06 | pagefault | hahahahaha |
| 00:07.16 | pagefault | WoW runs so freaking fast now |
| 00:10.55 | Mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/pennyarcade/829/20060414.jpg |
| 00:16.55 | kergoth | pagefault: ? |
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| 00:24.03 | Eraphine | i can't tell what these targets mean in prt |
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| 01:09.39 | CIA-13 | 03cladhaire * r869 10PerfectRaid/ (PerfectRaid.lua PerfectRaidChatCmd.lua): PerfectRaid: Part-way conversion to custom slash command handler. Not usable =) |
| 01:10.30 | hyperChipmunk | cladhaire: just finished this, I think |
| 01:10.37 | hyperChipmunk | you want a patch or a commit? |
| 01:10.58 | cladhaire | send me a patch if you wouldn't mind-- it needs to be reworked fo rthe new handler anyway |
| 01:11.00 | hyperChipmunk | you just had to commit right before I finished, too =P |
| 01:11.23 | hyperChipmunk | testing now, and the frame moves slightly when you swap |
| 01:11.37 | hyperChipmunk | I'll try to figure out what's causing that and then I'll send you a patch |
| 01:12.21 | hyperChipmunk | hum |
| 01:12.24 | hyperChipmunk | seems to be your fault =) |
| 01:12.32 | cladhaire | seems to be my fault what? |
| 01:12.41 | hyperChipmunk | your PerfectRaidFrame doesn't reach around the entire frames |
| 01:12.47 | cladhaire | of course not. |
| 01:12.53 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
| 01:13.18 | hyperChipmunk | so when I make it align to the bottom |
| 01:13.23 | hyperChipmunk | it has to move up to get there |
| 01:14.06 | hyperChipmunk | I guess it wouldn't hurt to just anchor it to the top |
| 01:14.12 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:14.26 | hyperChipmunk | since you didn't make the frame try to mean anything ANYWAYS |
| 01:14.40 | cladhaire | why would it? |
| 01:14.48 | hyperChipmunk | heck i duno |
| 01:14.53 | cladhaire | then i have to resize it. |
| 01:15.00 | cladhaire | its an anchor .. literally =) |
| 01:15.06 | hyperChipmunk | yea yea |
| 01:15.18 | hyperChipmunk | so much for attaching other frames for it, eh? |
| 01:15.36 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:16.17 | hyperChipmunk | ok screw you, the user can move it themselves |
| 01:16.28 | hyperChipmunk | I'm just flipping it |
| 01:16.48 | hyperChipmunk | though I did take care of order, voffset, and all that so it still looks exactly the same <3 |
| 01:17.00 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 01:18.10 | ckknight | zomg, some guy sent me the german translations to all the starter pack plugins |
| 01:18.11 | ckknight | hehe |
| 01:18.17 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 01:19.42 | ckknight | btw, gonna commit FuBar 1.1 |
| 01:20.17 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r870 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - added library assert |
| 01:20.28 | hyperChipmunk | but I was just about to commit BatFu for 1.0 >8P |
| 01:20.46 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: If you could send it to me via email, that would be great |
| 01:20.58 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, go ahead, it'll still work |
| 01:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | cladhaire: runnin diff now |
| 01:21.41 | hyperChipmunk | but honestly I could probably pastebin it =P |
| 01:21.47 | hyperChipmunk | or you just want a record? |
| 01:25.00 | cladhaire | yeah just email it |
| 01:25.04 | cladhaire | i only get work like that done at work |
| 01:26.49 | hyperChipmunk | oh crud you updated; sec |
| 01:26.53 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r871 10TabletLib/ (API.html Lib/TabletLib.lua): |
| 01:26.54 | CIA-13 | TabletLib - optimizations. |
| 01:26.54 | CIA-13 | Added IsLocked(), ToggleLocked(), IsAttached(), and Refresh() |
| 01:28.28 | Eraphine | i don't understand what Perfect Raid targets is showing me. |
| 01:29.34 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r872 10FuBar/ (. FuBar.lua FuBar.toc FuBarPlugin.lua FuBarUtils.lua): |
| 01:29.34 | CIA-13 | FuBar - version 1.1 |
| 01:29.34 | CIA-13 | Changed compatibility number to 102 (from 10000). |
| 01:29.34 | CIA-13 | API Change: |
| 01:29.34 | CIA-13 | FuBarUtils.VersionToNumber(version) now works differently. "1.1.800" -> 101.0800 instead of 10900 |
| 01:29.35 | CIA-13 | Added TabletLib support. (102-compatible plugins use it) |
| 01:29.36 | CIA-13 | Added DewdropLib support. (102-compatible plugins use it) |
| 01:29.40 | hyperChipmunk | gvimdiff is the greatest thing in the entire world |
| 01:29.49 | cladhaire | i prefer diff. |
| 01:29.53 | cladhaire | cause its .. diff. |
| 01:30.09 | hyperChipmunk | well, diff is diff, no doubt |
| 01:30.13 | hyperChipmunk | but gvimdiff isn't diff |
| 01:30.28 | cladhaire | idc =) |
| 01:31.05 | kergoth | gvimdiff is a diff/merge application, not unlike meld, tkdiff, or kdiff3 |
| 01:31.14 | cladhaire | patch -c =) |
| 01:31.17 | kergoth | graphically push/pull chunks between copies and such |
| 01:31.21 | cladhaire | hehe i know what it is. |
| 01:31.24 | cladhaire | i'm just being a bitch |
| 01:31.30 | hyperChipmunk | >8( |
| 01:31.34 | Eraphine | lol are you drunk cladhaire ? |
| 01:31.35 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r873 10FuBar/ (FuBar.toc README.txt): FuBar - changed toc and readme to say 1.1 |
| 01:31.35 | kergoth | pff, down with -c, up with -u |
| 01:31.39 | kergoth | unified is where its at, damnit |
| 01:31.43 | Eraphine | btw, been trying perfect raid cladhaire |
| 01:31.45 | Eraphine | seems cool |
| 01:31.51 | cladhaire | Eraphine: Thanks |
| 01:31.53 | hyperChipmunk | and uh, i'm giving you a -u |
| 01:31.58 | hyperChipmunk | I hope that's okay =p |
| 01:31.58 | cladhaire | kergoth: I love unified diffs |
| 01:32.01 | Eraphine | is there a watchdog_cure function? |
| 01:32.06 | kergoth | diff -urNd is my best friend |
| 01:32.08 | cladhaire | Eraphine WD_CureAny |
| 01:32.12 | kergoth | as is patchutils |
| 01:32.14 | Eraphine | yeah - is there? |
| 01:32.22 | kergoth | lsdiff, filterdiff, recountdiff, etc |
| 01:32.26 | cladhaire | Eraphine: yes, WD_CureAny |
| 01:32.44 | kergoth | one slick diff option is -p, which shows the C function the hunk is in |
| 01:32.56 | kergoth | though i disagree with diff knowing enough about the content to add that, its still slick |
| 01:33.03 | cladhaire | =) |
| 01:33.11 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 01:33.13 | ckknight | hrm, I broke CIA-13 |
| 01:33.15 | cladhaire | dont unified diffs skip chunks that are the same? |
| 01:33.22 | ckknight | either way, ClockFu is now 1.1 compliant |
| 01:33.26 | ckknight | it uses the new scheme |
| 01:33.46 | kergoth | patch's ability to detect whether its already been applied is rather mediocre, but if its a perfect match, yes, itll notice if that hunk has already been applied |
| 01:33.49 | kergoth | if thats what your'e asking |
| 01:34.46 | cladhaire | I'm not, I'm asking about diff itself. Sometimes I like to see every single line with a full comparison |
| 01:35.02 | cladhaire | basically a contextual diff with full-file context =) |
| 01:35.06 | hyperChipmunk | bah, keywords make diff sad |
| 01:36.12 | kergoth | ahhh |
| 01:36.16 | kergoth | it does support a side by side view |
| 01:36.19 | kergoth | but thast about it |
| 01:36.25 | cladhaire | yeah, and i like side-by-side |
| 01:36.36 | cladhaire | i go to custom diff stuff ive written when i need it all |
| 01:36.47 | kergoth | what i /want/, is to see a file in vim, with the patch sort of applied, highlighting hte adds/removes |
| 01:37.04 | kergoth | kinda like trac's view of the diff, but merged with the entire file context |
| 01:37.16 | cladhaire | that would be nice |
| 01:37.26 | kergoth | actually, a friend of mine was trying to do that, i wonder if bhe got it figured out |
| 01:41.03 | hyperChipmunk | cladhaire@gmail.com? |
| 01:41.51 | cladhaire | yes please =) |
| 01:43.02 | Tem | oh I <3 helpful people of higher level than me |
| 01:43.21 | Tem | I had a ?? level warlock camping my rogue |
| 01:43.26 | Tem | mentioned it in /1 ... |
| 01:43.28 | cladhaire | Tem: Which server did you roll on, Maelstrom? |
| 01:43.38 | Tem | like 5 level 60s showed up to gank him |
| 01:43.42 | Tem | cladhaire: I'm on Hakker |
| 01:43.46 | cladhaire | nice |
| 01:43.47 | cladhaire | Ooh |
| 01:43.50 | cladhaire | my brother is on Hakker |
| 01:43.51 | cladhaire | which side? |
| 01:43.55 | hyperChipmunk | "The Beijing Institute of Clothing Technology released a report last week saying the average chest circumference of Chinese women has risen by nearly 1 cm (0.4 inch) to 83.53 cm (32.89 inches) since the early 1990s." |
| 01:44.18 | hyperChipmunk | the Beiging Institude of Clothing Technology??? rofl |
| 01:44.22 | cladhaire | haha |
| 01:44.27 | hyperChipmunk | s/Beiging/Beijing/ |
| 01:44.33 | Tem | I'm hordeside |
| 01:44.41 | hyperChipmunk | http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2006-04-25T155124Z_01_PEK78827_RTRUKOC_0_US-CHINA-BRAS.xml |
| 01:44.45 | cladhaire | o rly |
| 01:44.52 | cladhaire | cause i need to start a warlock |
| 01:44.54 | cladhaire | but i dont have time =( |
| 01:44.56 | Tem | yarly |
| 01:45.07 | Tem | is your brother alliance or horde? |
| 01:45.13 | cladhaire | if i rolled on Hakkar, i'd have to be allaince-- i haven't had a chance to play with my brother since release =) |
| 01:46.03 | hyperChipmunk | cladhaire: attachment or in the body? |
| 01:46.35 | Tem | cladhaire: then you must do 1 of 2 things |
| 01:46.47 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: Attacikment please. |
| 01:46.51 | cladhaire | Tem: Ok. |
| 01:46.55 | Tem | 1: make your brother reroll horde |
| 01:46.57 | hyperChipmunk | righto chierf |
| 01:47.03 | Tem | 2: say screw him and roll horde anyway |
| 01:47.11 | cladhaire | haha |
| 01:47.24 | Tain | Horde is better. |
| 01:47.31 | cladhaire | i agree |
| 01:47.35 | cladhaire | but i have characters everywhere. |
| 01:47.38 | hyperChipmunk | done |
| 01:48.06 | hyperChipmunk | thanks =) |
| 01:50.58 | Tem | cladhaire: reroll horde on Hakkar |
| 01:51.06 | hyperChipmunk | now to bug Tekkub for the same in PRT =) |
| 01:51.37 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r875 10FuBar_AmmoFu/ (AmmoFuLocals-deDE.lua FuBar_AmmoFu.toc): FuBar_AmmoFu - deDE Translations (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 01:51.47 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r876 10FuBar_BagFu/ (BagFuLocals-deDE.lua FuBar_BagFu.toc): FuBar_BagFu - deDE Translations (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 01:52.34 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r878 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ (ExperienceFuLocals-deDE.lua FuBar_ExperienceFu.toc): FuBar_ExperienceFu - deDE Translations (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 01:52.50 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r879 10FuBar_FontSizeFu/ (FontSizeFuLocals-deDE.lua FuBar_FontSizeFu.toc): FuBar_FontSizeFu - deDE Translations (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 01:53.07 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r880 10FuBar_HonorFu/ (HonorFu.lua HonorFuLocals-deDE.lua): FuBar_HonorFu - fixed some deDE Translations (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 01:53.37 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r882 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (FuBar_MoneyFu.toc MoneyFuLocals-deDE.lua): FuBar_MoneyFu - deDE Translations (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 01:53.55 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r883 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc PerformanceFuLocals-deDE.lua): FuBar_PerformanceFu - deDE Translations (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 01:54.08 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r884 10FuBar_SpacingFu/ (FuBar_SpacingFu.toc SpacingFuLocals-deDE.lua): FuBar_SpacingFu - deDE Translations (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 01:54.23 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r885 10FuBar_TransparencyFu/ (FuBar_TransparencyFu.toc TransparencyFuLocals-deDE.lua): FuBar_TransparencyFu - deDE Translations (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 01:54.29 | ckknight | spamtastic. |
| 01:54.35 | hyperChipmunk | yea thx |
| 01:56.14 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r886 10FuBar/FuBarLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar - updated deDE Translations (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 01:57.18 | ckknight | now to upload a shitload to WoWI... |
| 01:58.34 | Tain | You should consider putting Transparency, Spacing, FontSize as a single package and not even releasing them separately as 3. |
| 01:59.24 | cladhaire | I agree. |
| 01:59.56 | hyperChipmunk | i thought he was doing that |
| 02:01.26 | ckknight | Tain, I'm actually gonna get rid of those completely |
| 02:01.30 | Wobin_ | only as the starterpack |
| 02:01.40 | Wobin_ | Integrate them into fubar |
| 02:01.49 | ckknight | with Dewdrop, you can have sliders in the dropdown menu |
| 02:03.52 | ckknight | for something that you want to change once, then leave how it is, it makes more sense |
| 02:04.03 | Tem | ckknight: is that the sexyness I saw last night on my detatched tooltip? |
| 02:04.04 | ckknight | plus, it'll be like 10 lines of code to add to the Panel |
| 02:04.12 | ckknight | Tem, actually sexier |
| 02:04.18 | ckknight | but you get the idea |
| 02:04.29 | Tem | the color thing is a nice touch |
| 02:04.36 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:04.43 | ckknight | that was just by happenstance |
| 02:05.06 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastebin.com/682216 if anyone else wants to patch their PerfectRaid to have an option for bottom-anchoring |
| 02:05.42 | Tem | hey cladhaire, you have a rogue right? |
| 02:06.03 | Tem | is it possible for a mob to resist Distract with no message? |
| 02:06.11 | CIA-13 | 03kaelten * r887 10KC_Items/ (4 files in 4 dirs): KC_Items: Fixed the various bugs mentioned in my thread at wowace.com (I think) |
| 02:06.51 | cladhaire | Tem: I dont believe so, I've always gotten a message |
| 02:07.38 | *** part/#wowace cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-59-191-241.twcny.res.rr.com) |
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| 02:08.29 | Tem | ok, so here's what just happened to me |
| 02:08.37 | hyperChipmunk | fubar is still wonky with the disabled/blank dropdown menu stuff =P |
| 02:08.40 | Tem | a mountain lion "sensed" me and turned to face |
| 02:08.48 | Tem | so I used distract |
| 02:08.55 | Tem | I saw the thingy over his head |
| 02:08.57 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, ? |
| 02:08.58 | Tem | but he didn't turn |
| 02:09.04 | Tem | why? |
| 02:10.00 | cladhaire | i think there's a model issue currently |
| 02:10.02 | cladhaire | read the rogue forums. |
| 02:10.06 | cladhaire | the model doesn't move. |
| 02:10.10 | cladhaire | but the mob does. |
| 02:10.39 | Tem | aah |
| 02:14.42 | cladhaire | night all |
| 02:16.27 | Tem | you try to run away now you hillbarad farmer bastards! |
| 02:16.31 | Tem | later clad|sleep |
| 02:17.46 | Tem | s/hillbarad/hillsbrad/ |
| 02:18.20 | CIA-13 | 03kaelten * r888 10KC_Items/broker/broker.lua: KC_Items: Changed SmartSplit to Alt-RightClick, I think thats untaken. |
| 02:21.31 | Tem | !! |
| 02:28.10 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r889 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - fixed nil bug and hooking bug. |
| 02:30.21 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r890 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: |
| 02:30.21 | CIA-13 | TabletLib - fixed translations. |
| 02:30.21 | CIA-13 | Fixed category blank line. |
| 02:30.22 | CIA-13 | Fixed detachedData position bug. |
| 02:30.22 | CIA-13 | Fixed detached nil bug. |
| 02:30.22 | CIA-13 | Fixed detached menu bug. |
| 02:30.29 | hyperChipmunk | yay |
| 02:32.12 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r891 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBarPlugin.lua): |
| 02:32.12 | CIA-13 | FuBar - fixed tooltip lock |
| 02:32.12 | CIA-13 | fixed tooltip saving |
| 02:32.12 | CIA-13 | fixed click nil bug. |
| 02:32.18 | ckknight | there you go |
| 02:32.24 | ckknight | tru that on for size |
| 02:33.59 | ckknight | try* |
| 02:34.30 | ckknight | one issue with supporting both is that they work on separate variables |
| 02:34.37 | ckknight | e.g. with font size |
| 02:35.50 | Cairenn | News: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4648 |
| 02:36.51 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 02:37.24 | Cairenn | yeah! :) |
| 02:42.44 | Wobin_ | I so cannot wait til poisons |
| 02:42.49 | Wobin_ | Damn you runners |
| 02:43.32 | hyperChipmunk | still an error rightclicking on micromenufu |
| 02:44.15 | hyperChipmunk | and then it turns to having a non-tooltip backdrop, like the one around the main menu when you hit Esc |
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| 02:49.09 | ckknight | and I fixed that problem |
| 02:49.20 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:49.41 | hyperChipmunk | no toc changes? |
| 02:49.56 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 02:50.32 | hyperChipmunk | i just did a svn update and a reloadui |
| 02:50.58 | hyperChipmunk | [22:42-282] FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:53: attempt to index a nil value |
| 02:51.46 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:51.50 | ckknight | I'm getting it too |
| 02:51.53 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 02:59.13 | Tem | Crippling poison is the win for mobs that run |
| 03:00.11 | ckknight | okay, fixed that issue |
| 03:02.20 | ckknight | okay, hyperChipmunk |
| 03:02.22 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r892 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBarTooltip.lua): |
| 03:02.22 | CIA-13 | FuBar - FuBarTooltip and Fubar's settings for TabletLib are now intertwined. |
| 03:02.22 | CIA-13 | Fixed Dropdown menu bug with overridden frames. |
| 03:02.47 | hyperChipmunk | nah, I decided that was the last straw; I deleted FuBar and reinstalled titan |
| 03:03.28 | hyperChipmunk | good luck with that, though |
| 03:03.35 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:03.40 | ckknight | douche |
| 03:03.50 | hyperChipmunk | FuBar\FuBarTooltip.lua:1046: You cannot change transparency with an unregistered parent frame. |
| 03:04.36 | ckknight | oh |
| 03:04.39 | hyperChipmunk | why are there two transparency sliders, anyway? |
| 03:04.53 | ckknight | panel and tooltip |
| 03:05.08 | hyperChipmunk | next question |
| 03:05.15 | hyperChipmunk | why doesn't the one on the right do anything? |
| 03:05.39 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r893 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - Setting functions can now take a raw table instead of just a registered frame. |
| 03:05.48 | ckknight | that's the bug that you just got |
| 03:05.57 | ckknight | alright, get that TabletLib |
| 03:06.01 | ckknight | should all be fixed |
| 03:07.42 | ckknight | eventually, I will find a way to get FuBar down to the smallest possible size, surrounded by libraries |
| 03:08.44 | ckknight | though now it's pretty damn close |
| 03:08.47 | hyperChipmunk | oooh |
| 03:08.55 | ckknight | Core, plugin, panel, and utils |
| 03:08.55 | hyperChipmunk | I like that second transparency thingy now |
| 03:08.59 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:09.36 | hyperChipmunk | it's less suck now! |
| 03:09.55 | ckknight | okay, now to make FuBar's main dropdown use Dewdrop instead of Blizzard's |
| 03:10.20 | hyperChipmunk | dewdrops are the ones with the illegible fonts? |
| 03:10.34 | ckknight | ? |
| 03:10.38 | ckknight | no? |
| 03:10.44 | ckknight | they look the same as the regular ones, to me |
| 03:11.11 | ckknight | ClockFu uses a Dewdrop |
| 03:11.24 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's the one; wondered why it did that |
| 03:11.32 | ckknight | screen? |
| 03:12.54 | ckknight | on mine, they look exactly the same |
| 03:13.00 | ckknight | get a screenshot |
| 03:13.34 | hyperChipmunk | putting it together already; just a moment |
| 03:14.40 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/ddmenu.png |
| 03:15.09 | ckknight | you using ClearFont or what? |
| 03:15.46 | ckknight | you're right |
| 03:15.51 | ckknight | it's not the same with ClearFont |
| 03:16.47 | hyperChipmunk | yea, and since you made a point to include ClearFont directives in the api docs, I figured that shouldn't be a problem |
| 03:20.29 | ckknight | ClearFont does something funny. |
| 03:21.56 | hyperChipmunk | excellent analasys |
| 03:22.39 | hyperChipmunk | "ClearFont does something funny" |
| 03:23.39 | ckknight | assert(GameFontHighlightSmall == DropDownList1Button1:GetTextFontObject()) |
| 03:23.59 | ckknight | GameFontHighlightSmall:GetFont() == CLEAR_FONT_BOLD |
| 03:24.09 | ckknight | DropDownList1Button1:GetFont() == CLEAR_FONT |
| 03:24.12 | ckknight | ... |
| 03:24.34 | hyperChipmunk | assertion works |
| 03:25.17 | hyperChipmunk | 10 |
| 03:25.18 | hyperChipmunk | 12 |
| 03:25.35 | hyperChipmunk | er Vera 10 |
| 03:25.38 | hyperChipmunk | VeraBd12 |
| 03:26.06 | hyperChipmunk | s/d1/d 1/ |
| 03:26.10 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:26.12 | ckknight | I know the problem |
| 03:26.25 | ckknight | the DropDownList1 is weird. |
| 03:26.37 | ckknight | it has GameFontHighlightSmall be its font object |
| 03:26.48 | ckknight | but then later sets it to STANDARD_TEXT_FONT |
| 03:26.56 | hyperChipmunk | wtg |
| 03:28.48 | ckknight | whatever |
| 03:28.52 | ckknight | I'm doing the same thing now |
| 03:28.59 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 03:32.52 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r894 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - made fonts more closely resemble Blizzard's dropdowns (which in and of itself is thoroughly messed up) |
| 03:33.03 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 03:33.19 | ckknight | either way, it looks nice now |
| 03:33.21 | ckknight | back to FuBar... |
| 03:36.35 | hyperChipmunk | strange =) |
| 03:36.41 | hyperChipmunk | I'll give you a new SS in a sec |
| 03:44.26 | ckknight | ? |
| 03:47.48 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r895 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - fixed "boldness" bug |
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| 03:50.45 | hyperChipmunk | stuff that starts out checked but non-disabled still bold |
| 03:51.11 | hyperChipmunk | though that's a cool effect |
| 03:51.15 | hyperChipmunk | bold-if-checked |
| 03:53.49 | ckknight | crap, still not working |
| 03:53.56 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:54.03 | ckknight | bold if checked might be nice |
| 03:54.53 | ckknight | meh |
| 03:55.55 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r896 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - fixed boldness bug. |
| 03:56.00 | ckknight | there we go |
| 03:57.16 | hyperChipmunk | good thing i reinstalled titan; if i actually had to use this, it'd be really annoying |
| 03:58.10 | Cairenn | ouch |
| 04:00.09 | kergoth | yay home |
| 04:00.20 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r897 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - now correctly handles func if it's a string (as a method name) |
| 04:02.13 | Tem | I didn't know wow had a "bold" font effect |
| 04:02.25 | ckknight | apparently so |
| 04:02.34 | Tem | how do you do it? |
| 04:03.04 | TekWerk | erf |
| 04:04.01 | Thiana | Erf? O.o |
| 04:04.23 | kergoth | foo, time to do more craaaaaaziness in vim |
| 04:04.25 | kergoth | id`, foo |
| 04:04.34 | Cairenn | yo Tekkub |
| 04:05.00 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r898 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - lines can no longer be clicked if they have no 'func' |
| 04:05.30 | Tekkub | :P |
| 04:07.06 | hyperChipmunk | hi tek; will prt ever remember its positioning? |
| 04:07.55 | kergoth | pfft, use visor :) |
| 04:08.07 | kergoth | actually, i'm close to being able to remove visor |
| 04:08.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:08.21 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't have a frame |
| 04:14.03 | Tekkub | ironically, Visor may not be able to grab PRT |
| 04:14.08 | Tekkub | and yes, someday :) |
| 04:14.28 | Tekkub | bribe me on paypal like that one guy if you want it done faster |
| 04:15.27 | CIA-13 | 03lucen * r899 10oRA_Resurrection/oRA_Resurrection.lua: |
| 04:15.27 | CIA-13 | oRA_Resurrection: |
| 04:15.27 | CIA-13 | - Couple bug fixes. Should be ready for actual use now. |
| 04:18.55 | ckknight | somebody bribed you? |
| 04:20.03 | Lucen | I put up a PRT branch that remembers position and has a hide/show chat command |
| 04:20.50 | ckknight | Tekkub, merge upstream |
| 04:21.08 | Tekkub | oreo? |
| 04:21.22 | Tekkub | Lucen, I'm merging your changes to BW core, but not AQ40 |
| 04:21.27 | Tekkub | take AQ40 up with ammo |
| 04:21.35 | Lucen | ooo <3 |
| 04:21.54 | Lucen | ya..i need to upgrade my aq40 branch |
| 04:22.02 | Tekkub | and yea Boss, someone's bribin me to do ID, even tho I've been workin on it for like 3 days |
| 04:22.08 | Lucen | just went though tonight again and made a couple changes |
| 04:22.09 | Tekkub | guess he was looking at the old SVN |
| 04:22.15 | kergoth | The Jerk is on AMC |
| 04:22.37 | hyperChipmunk | good, I was gonan ask tek for the ability to have it expand upwards instead of downwards, but if it's not even remembering to stay on my screen, i figure chances are slim there too =P |
| 04:23.43 | CIA-13 | 03kaelten * r900 10KC_Items/bank/bank.lua: KC_Items: more efforts at bug squashing. |
| 04:23.45 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r901 10BigWigs/ (. Core.lua Other/Emeriss.lua): BigWigs - Changes to core from Lucen to make multizone bosses (the green dragons) work. |
| 04:25.22 | Tekkub | what else did you want merged bossman? |
| 04:25.46 | hyperChipmunk | that prt branch, I think |
| 04:26.21 | hyperChipmunk | do that, and I'll put in support for expanding upwards like I did with PR |
| 04:26.30 | hyperChipmunk | or is there still no command support? |
| 04:27.43 | ckknight | having the menu stay open when you click a button and not have it checked makes it _all_ worth it |
| 04:28.00 | hyperChipmunk | ? |
| 04:28.24 | ckknight | like clicking the "About" button doesn't close the menu |
| 04:28.37 | Tem | but, I want it to? |
| 04:28.48 | hyperChipmunk | yes it does |
| 04:28.59 | Tem | I hate context menus that stay open when they should close |
| 04:29.11 | hyperChipmunk | vice-versa too |
| 04:29.12 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 04:29.29 | hyperChipmunk | they need to read your mind |
| 04:29.33 | ckknight | Tem, they're easy to close manually |
| 04:29.39 | ckknight | it's just not the default any more |
| 04:29.46 | hyperChipmunk | ew |
| 04:29.52 | Tem | meh |
| 04:29.57 | Tem | I have ducttape |
| 04:30.02 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 04:30.05 | Tekkub | I like menus that time out properly and don't hang around all dumb when you've moved way off onto a totally diff screen |
| 04:30.08 | Tem | and ducttape supports your mountain dew crap |
| 04:30.16 | ckknight | Tekkub, yea, mine does that properly |
| 04:30.57 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r902 10PeriodicTable/Elements/Instance/PTEmbedElemInstance.lua: PeriodicTable - Merging in SFK loot tables from Neronix |
| 04:33.13 | Tem | *that* is the reason I can't stand that guy |
| 04:33.33 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r903 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - does hide-timing more accurately with sublevels. |
| 04:33.47 | hyperChipmunk | aroo? |
| 04:33.49 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r904 10PerfectRaidTargets/ (Core.lua PerfectRaidTargets.toc): PerfectRaidTargets - Merging Lucen's branch, now saves position across sessions (WHEE!!!!!!!!) |
| 04:34.12 | Tem | hyperChipmunk: please see the crap that Miravlix is spouting in the other channel for what I'm talking about |
| 04:34.22 | hyperChipmunk | oh, ok |
| 04:34.29 | Tekkub | meh, screw him |
| 04:34.31 | hyperChipmunk | I can't resist some good crap |
| 04:35.06 | Tekkub | note to self, chipmunks like crap, flig it at them |
| 04:35.14 | Tekkub | *fling |
| 04:36.44 | Tekkub | so boss, question for you? |
| 04:36.46 | hyperChipmunk | wow that's great |
| 04:36.56 | Tekkub | "FuBarUtils.VersionToNumber(version) now works differently. "1.1.800" -> 101.0800 instead of 10900" |
| 04:37.15 | ckknight | yea... |
| 04:37.31 | Tekkub | does this mean all my plugins are now compatable thru v 10000.000? |
| 04:37.36 | ckknight | no |
| 04:37.40 | Tekkub | dang |
| 04:37.50 | ckknight | for FuBar, it checks if it's >= 500, if so, /= 100 |
| 04:38.08 | Tekkub | damn, evil plans thwarted! |
| 04:38.13 | ckknight | I committed FuBar 1.1 |
| 04:38.22 | ckknight | really, it'd be worse for you in the end if that were the case |
| 04:38.26 | ckknight | cause things'd break |
| 04:38.52 | Tekkub | I know I know, just wanted to cheat is all :) |
| 04:40.09 | Tekkub | So DudeRop is in FuB now and I can make ModMenu not play by that fucking 32 item limit? |
| 04:40.18 | ckknight | DudeRop? |
| 04:40.23 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:40.31 | ckknight | Dewdrop is in FuBar 1.1 |
| 04:40.57 | ckknight | I'm gonna be checking for any bugs |
| 04:41.02 | ckknight | as soon as I run out, I'll publish |
| 04:41.06 | ckknight | then wait for other people to find bugs |
| 04:41.19 | Tekkub | :) |
| 04:41.20 | hyperChipmunk | dude, that guy's a freaking moron |
| 04:41.44 | Tekkub | well I'll be your fist big user, half the shit in ModMenu is trying to GET AROUND that 32 shit |
| 04:42.26 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:42.37 | ckknight | hey, if you think of any API stuff either, I'd be happy to add |
| 04:42.43 | ckknight | but a lot is in it now |
| 04:44.02 | ckknight | ClockFu's the only 1.1 compliant plugin currently |
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| 05:00.43 | pagefault | FOR THE HORDE |
| 05:02.46 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r905 10DewdropLib/ (API.html Lib/DewdropLib.lua): DewdropLib - added cursorX and cursorY to the Register/Open() arguments. |
| 05:02.57 | ckknight | yes, for the horde. |
| 05:03.03 | ckknight | ~salute |
| 05:03.06 | hyperChipmunk | negatory |
| 05:03.09 | hyperChipmunk | ~doom |
| 05:03.10 | purl | ACTION stalks hyperchipmunk, chanting doom on you, doom on you! |
| 05:03.25 | hyperChipmunk | ! |
| 05:03.44 | ckknight | purl, salute is <action>salutes his allegiance to the Horde |
| 05:03.45 | purl | ckknight: okay |
| 05:03.49 | ckknight | ~salute |
| 05:03.50 | purl | ACTION salutes his allegiance to the Horde |
| 05:06.00 | ckknight | hey, does anyone know an instance of UIDropDownMenuTemplate in the game which I could programmatically copy? |
| 05:06.13 | hyperChipmunk | chat frame |
| 05:06.24 | hyperChipmunk | clicking on the tabs makes a ddmenu |
| 05:06.32 | ckknight | ah |
| 05:06.53 | hyperChipmunk | I was looking for one earlier =) |
| 05:13.38 | ckknight | woot |
| 05:13.46 | ckknight | I have 1 solitary piece of XML left in FuBar |
| 05:13.58 | ckknight | <GameTooltip name="FuBarScanningTooltip" inherits="GameTooltipTemplate"/> |
| 05:14.00 | ckknight | that's it. |
| 05:14.18 | Tekkub | Boss: you gonna completely replace the UIDropdown with DudeRop? |
| 05:14.20 | hyperChipmunk | xml bloatage |
| 05:14.54 | Tekkub | like Rowne kinda did with Timex/Chronos |
| 05:15.09 | ckknight | yes, Tekkub |
| 05:15.13 | Tekkub | :) good |
| 05:15.23 | ckknight | well, plugins with fuCompatible of 100 or lower will still use it |
| 05:15.39 | ckknight | but if you have a higher one, then you have to use DewDrop |
| 05:15.48 | hyperChipmunk | no, I think he means even in the default ui |
| 05:15.52 | ckknight | which, in my opinion, has a much better API anyway |
| 05:15.53 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:15.54 | ckknight | no |
| 05:15.57 | ckknight | don't think so |
| 05:16.19 | Tekkub | I'm gonna get on DD here in a min, I wanna get the base of ModMenu converted, then I'll prolly write up my embeddable registrar |
| 05:16.29 | ckknight | okay |
| 05:16.35 | Tekkub | Need a name, specifically one that mocks MyAddons :) |
| 05:16.53 | hyperChipmunk | MynAddons |
| 05:16.55 | hyperChipmunk | kekek |
| 05:16.58 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r906 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBar.xml PanelClass.lua): FuBar - FuBar's main menu now uses DewDrop. |
| 05:17.08 | hyperChipmunk | YourAddons |
| 05:17.29 | Tekkub | MADdons |
| 05:17.41 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 05:17.48 | Tekkub | addonaddoff |
| 05:18.09 | Tekkub | YourSubtractOff |
| 05:18.14 | Tekkub | *s |
| 05:18.49 | Tekkub | seriously tho, a menu/GUI embeddable registrar, ModMenu will be converted to work with it... need a name |
| 05:19.19 | hyperChipmunk | AddOnator |
| 05:19.59 | Tekkub | InterNIC! :) |
| 05:20.12 | ckknight | ? |
| 05:20.15 | hyperChipmunk | err |
| 05:20.23 | Tekkub | the DNS registrar :P |
| 05:20.33 | Tekkub | first google result for "registrar" |
| 05:21.48 | Tekkub | Klappe ... I like that |
| 05:22.02 | Tekkub | (german translation |
| 05:22.39 | Tekkub | matrÃcula <-- spanish |
| 05:23.15 | Tekkub | HA! they even got ASL, too bad I can't use that |
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| 05:24.40 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: a/s/l? |
| 05:24.52 | Tekkub | no, American Sign Language |
| 05:25.00 | hyperChipmunk | ~=) |
| 05:25.08 | Tekkub | anyway if noone comes up with anything better it'ss be MatriculaLib |
| 05:25.40 | hyperChipmunk | wooot wings win |
| 05:25.44 | hyperChipmunk | ~dance |
| 05:25.45 | purl | [dance] ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' elive, stayin' elive.. |
| 05:26.48 | Tekkub | *evil idea* |
| 05:26.48 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 05:26.49 | hyperChipmunk | wings don't win >8( |
| 05:26.59 | ckknight | I have replaced my entire Spacing plugin in 24 lines of code |
| 05:27.01 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:27.47 | Tekkub | ~ddr |
| 05:27.48 | purl | rumour has it, ddr is <- -> V /\ V /\ <- V -> /\ -> V -> |
| 05:28.16 | ckknight | I like DDR |
| 05:28.21 | Tekkub | you would |
| 05:28.47 | ckknight | I guess so |
| 05:28.52 | ckknight | I sold my mat, though |
| 05:28.53 | ckknight | when I moved |
| 05:28.54 | Tekkub | anything involving repeative movement whice is not done nekkid... meh |
| 05:28.56 | ckknight | I want a new one |
| 05:29.05 | ckknight | you can do it naked |
| 05:29.29 | Tekkub | I'd squish a ball if it wasn't properly supported |
| 05:31.01 | Tekkub | oh and Boss, I figgered out why BabbleLib is so big in memory yet takes so lil space |
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| 05:31.39 | Tekkub | the functions to set the translations are damn big still, but load a whole lot faster than if they were variablesl |
| 05:31.42 | hyperChipmunk | it's because foreign languages suck and should be banned |
| 05:31.49 | Codayus | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.08 | Codayus | Frankly, I think we should just standardize on Latin. |
| 05:32.11 | Tekkub | yea we seriously do need a Common IRL |
| 05:32.52 | Tekkub | I don't care what we standarize on, but considering a lot of foreign countries teach engrish to their kids, good chance it'll be engrish based at least |
| 05:33.16 | Tekkub | if it were to ever happen, which it won't cause humans are retards |
| 05:33.32 | Codayus | Hmm? Oh, yeah, English would be a good choice if your being serious. |
| 05:33.53 | Codayus | I wouldn't worry about it. |
| 05:34.09 | Codayus | We'll get a standardized language soon enough. |
| 05:34.19 | Tekkub | hell I'd settle on Russian even, it's a damn sexy language when spoken by guys with big beards and deep voices |
| 05:34.20 | hyperChipmunk | the internet is more or less standardized to english |
| 05:34.24 | Tekkub | Sean Connery *swoon* |
| 05:34.31 | Codayus | Russian has some flaws. The grammar, for example. |
| 05:34.47 | Tekkub | so wait, engrish has the good grammar? |
| 05:34.49 | hyperChipmunk | =\ Hunt for Red October used to be one of my most favorite movies |
| 05:35.04 | Codayus | hyperChipmunk: For now. Mandarin will be making a pretty strong play of the next couple decades. |
| 05:35.29 | Tekkub | we'll be Firefly in the end. chineese and engrish |
| 05:35.29 | hyperChipmunk | on the internet? |
| 05:35.34 | ckknight | Russian has no word for the |
| 05:35.43 | Codayus | Tekkub: Actually, yes. Which shouldn't be too surprising, since it helps explain how its obtained the position it has. :) For a global language having no fixed rules and a penchant for stealing stuff form other languages works nicely. |
| 05:35.52 | Tekkub | and german has like 6 words for the... |
| 05:35.55 | ckknight | 16 |
| 05:36.10 | Tekkub | der die das ... uh.... okey so 3 |
| 05:36.15 | Codayus | Russian grammar is...eh...special. Look, any language that makes you remember the gender of nouns is automatically at a disadvantage... |
| 05:36.37 | hyperChipmunk | agreed |
| 05:36.40 | Codayus | And it just goes downhill from their... |
| 05:36.42 | hyperChipmunk | that's the most retarded thing ever |
| 05:36.46 | ckknight | der die das die, den die das die, dem das dem das, des der des der |
| 05:36.48 | Tekkub | german has the genderful nouns |
| 05:36.55 | ckknight | I don't like gender-based nouns |
| 05:37.00 | hyperChipmunk | a chair is an it |
| 05:37.05 | ckknight | German is not a very transsexual-friendly language |
| 05:37.10 | Tekkub | I was always lavy and used the hermapho "das" |
| 05:37.15 | Tekkub | *lazy |
| 05:37.44 | Codayus | Assuming the US doesn't convert to Spanish, and the world doesn't convert to Mandarin, we'll probably end up with something pretty close to current English I suspect...with, no doubt a LOT stolen from both languages by the time we're done. :-) |
| 05:38.03 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:38.11 | ckknight | oh, don't forget Ebonics |
| 05:38.36 | Tekkub | if things keep heading the way they are... and I hate saying this but the stubborn hispanics who don't even try to learn english... the two are gonna merge |
| 05:38.37 | hyperChipmunk | leetspeak is the language of the New Generation |
| 05:39.04 | Tekkub | you have no clue how many hispanic familys came to my wally where the parent didn't speak a word of english |
| 05:39.16 | Tekkub | the youngest kid always played translator |
| 05:39.26 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:39.30 | Codayus | Tekkub: That's actually a very encouraging sign. :-) |
| 05:39.47 | Tekkub | and I understand some husbands won't let their wifes learn... but then they don't learn either |
| 05:40.09 | Codayus | If the kids wearn't learning - THAT'S a problem. But these things work on generational scales. |
| 05:40.25 | ckknight | the language that will win will be the language with the most business opportunities |
| 05:40.31 | Tekkub | and some wifes refuse to learn, like Zanons... I gave him shit all the time for not making her learn at least enough to get by :) |
| 05:40.36 | ckknight | a lot of that ties to population as well, though |
| 05:41.01 | Codayus | If a big chunk of 3rd or 4th generation immigrants don't speak English, that's a problem. (For English. I don't see it as much of a problem for the country or the people.) |
| 05:41.04 | Tekkub | well lesse, japaneese learn engrish is highschool... |
| 05:41.21 | Tekkub | americans who get into anime jearn japaneese in college |
| 05:41.21 | ckknight | Really, the country without a controlled population will be the one that will take over |
| 05:41.39 | Tekkub | danish learn it thru all of their school |
| 05:41.39 | ckknight | look at Europe now, there's too much population control, so the population (of native Europeans) is shrinking |
| 05:41.45 | ckknight | thus the influx of Turks |
| 05:41.46 | Codayus | ckknight: That writes German and Russian out as possibilites then, eh? |
| 05:41.51 | ckknight | yes |
| 05:42.12 | Tekkub | hell, on day #1 of his being here, foreign toby fought for 20 minutes with the AP english teach |
| 05:42.17 | ckknight | Turkey will play an important role this century |
| 05:42.22 | Tekkub | she didn't believe he was from denmark |
| 05:42.25 | Codayus | I hope so. :-/ |
| 05:42.38 | Tekkub | he had to get mad and curse at her in Danish for her to back down:) |
| 05:42.39 | Codayus | Well, I hope it's important AND good. |
| 05:42.46 | Tekkub | it was the best day ever |
| 05:42.56 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:43.02 | ckknight | Codayus, it will be far from good |
| 05:43.07 | Codayus | Heh, I just sort of expect Nordic types to speak better English than most of my fellow citizens by this point. |
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| 05:43.12 | ckknight | there's already race riots involving the Turks |
| 05:43.24 | Tekkub | we had him record Boyd's cellphone voicemail message in Danish too |
| 05:43.39 | Codayus | ckknight: I'm not convinced. And I'm not particularly worries about race riots. Those aren't very important on this scale of things... |
| 05:43.51 | ckknight | yea, you're right about that |
| 05:44.07 | Tekkub | he said it was something along the lines of "Boyd is a fucktard and will probably never figure this confounded thing out, but in case he does like, leave a message or something |
| 05:44.08 | ckknight | the importance of Turkey is the strong population growth and emigration |
| 05:44.27 | hyperChipmunk | and the Janissaries |
| 05:44.30 | ckknight | because they encourage emigration, Turks will spread throughout the world, especially in the next 20-30 years |
| 05:44.30 | Codayus | What I'm more worried about is whether, say, Turkey will end up being a muslim AND democratic/free country. That's...not quite obvious to me just at the moment... |
| 05:44.39 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:44.42 | ckknight | of course it will be |
| 05:44.44 | ckknight | how won't it be? |
| 05:44.56 | Tekkub | my neighbors a mile down the road from my dad were turks |
| 05:45.01 | ckknight | Secular Muslim, similar to how Europe is Secular Christian |
| 05:45.10 | Tekkub | I got to go make cookies round xmas time with her, she was cool |
| 05:45.18 | Codayus | ckknight: I *really* wish you turn out to be correct. |
| 05:45.26 | Tekkub | she'd take my dad's extra rhubarb and cook crap with it too |
| 05:45.30 | ckknight | I don't see it turning out another way |
| 05:45.45 | ckknight | The Turkish government has been pushing secularism for a while now |
| 05:45.52 | Codayus | Erm...sorta. |
| 05:45.52 | ckknight | forcing the men to shave their beards and such |
| 05:46.02 | Codayus | But they're trodding a fine line. |
| 05:46.04 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 05:46.04 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:46.07 | ckknight | g'night |
| 05:46.17 | hyperChipmunk | sweet dreams |
| 05:46.41 | ckknight | there is a current economic problem in Turkey, which is why I wouldn't invest in it |
| 05:46.45 | ckknight | but that'll turn around |
| 05:46.52 | Codayus | Current governemnt is explicitly non-secular. They're trodding a very fine line to be "allowed" to rule by the military. |
| 05:46.59 | ckknight | it'll be seen as similar to China soon |
| 05:47.08 | ckknight | oyea |
| 05:47.12 | ckknight | yea* |
| 05:48.18 | Codayus | Which is itself a problem...I don't think Turkey needs to fear the imposition of secular dictatorship. Whatever their other problems, the days of juntas is probably over for them. But as the power of the generals do mandate securliarism fades... |
| 05:49.08 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:49.23 | ckknight | they'll become secular for purely economic reasons, I can guarantee that |
| 05:49.25 | Codayus | With luck, it'll just be a relaxation on rules about headscarves. The current ban is silly and illiberal anyhow. And if the passing of the fear of military coups means they can get around to giving their civil liberties laws some teeth, not supressing discussion of the armenian genocide, not persecuting the kurds...then yeah, it's all good. |
| 05:49.29 | ckknight | it won't be for a little while, though |
| 05:49.32 | Codayus | I...hope... |
| 05:50.49 | Codayus | Countries have gone collectively insane before now. :-/ |
| 05:51.02 | Codayus | But yeah, I'm optomistic, on balance. |
| 05:51.11 | Codayus | ckknight: You're a .eu type? |
| 05:51.26 | ckknight | I live in Chicago |
| 05:51.29 | Codayus | Guess not. :-) |
| 05:51.49 | ckknight | I just study economics and such |
| 05:51.54 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 05:51.56 | ckknight | including foreign markets |
| 05:52.08 | Tekkub | *SOB* Poor Raogrimm!!!! |
| 05:52.10 | Codayus | You support Turkey joining the EU? |
| 05:52.15 | ckknight | totally |
| 05:52.19 | Codayus | Heh |
| 05:52.22 | Codayus | I agree completely. |
| 05:52.22 | Tekkub | *SOB* Poor me for never even getting to do that fight in FFXI |
| 05:52.31 | ckknight | they need to |
| 05:52.32 | ckknight | it's important |
| 05:52.35 | ckknight | because Germany is dying |
| 05:52.37 | ckknight | literally |
| 05:52.40 | Codayus | That too. |
| 05:52.51 | ckknight | Germany's population is getting older |
| 05:53.01 | Tekkub | damn old Germaniams! |
| 05:53.01 | ckknight | and the population rate is dropping rapidly |
| 05:53.06 | Codayus | Yeah... |
| 05:53.13 | Codayus | lowest birth rate of any rich world country. |
| 05:53.20 | ckknight | I think I've heard that it's halved every 25 years |
| 05:53.47 | Codayus | Some regions are empting out. Wolves are returning. Some people expect bears to return. In Wester Europe! oO |
| 05:54.00 | ckknight | basically, it means that by 2040 (I think), 2/3 of Germany will be of the retiring age |
| 05:54.03 | ckknight | which is _bad_ |
| 05:54.06 | Codayus | IIRC, apartment vacancy rates are approaching 20%. Not enough people...too many buildings... |
| 05:54.14 | Codayus | Ayup. |
| 05:54.22 | Codayus | Can we say...pensions crisis? |
| 05:54.27 | ckknight | yep |
| 05:54.33 | ckknight | so what they need to do is just declare Germany to be New Turkey |
| 05:54.43 | ckknight | it's gonna happen eventually |
| 05:54.47 | Codayus | Free flow of labor will help a lot. |
| 05:54.51 | ckknight | yes |
| 05:55.12 | Codayus | But for it not to be a total disaster, that really requires Turkey to be stable, sucessful, liberal. And to get THAT to happen, Turkey needs to join the EU. |
| 05:55.15 | Tekkub | http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20060426 |
| 05:55.17 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 05:55.18 | ckknight | not that I want to really get into this, but the racial aspects will be vastly different in 2050 in Europe than what it is today |
| 05:55.28 | ckknight | I see at least half being non-natives |
| 05:55.48 | Codayus | And get sucked into the whole EU beuracracy, which is mostly just an unmitigated waste of oxygen, but is if nothing else a very...uh...civilized sort of institution... |
| 05:55.50 | ckknight | just because of population trends and such |
| 05:55.56 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 05:56.09 | Codayus | Well, I'm really not concerned with racial aspects. |
| 05:56.17 | ckknight | similar to how Southwest US will become one giant Mexico |
| 05:56.19 | Codayus | Religious ones might be more serious. |
| 05:56.24 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 05:56.33 | ckknight | religion does cause issues |
| 05:56.37 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 05:56.37 | ckknight | no matter what religion |
| 05:56.46 | ckknight | Family Guy put it best |
| 05:56.57 | ckknight | it doesn't matter what color we are, as long as we're all the same religion |
| 05:57.16 | Codayus | That's largely missing from the US mix. The US is kinda sorta protestant, and the hispanics are mostly roman catholics, but protestantism is growing fast, and the two are pretty similar in the grand scheme of things... |
| 05:57.55 | ckknight | yea |
| 05:58.03 | Codayus | Let's just say I don't forsee a re-enactment of the thirties year war in New Mexico. :-D |
| 05:58.15 | ckknight | it's not like it's the 1600's anymore, where Catholicism and Protestantism see each other as heathens |
| 05:58.18 | Tekkub | stupid religions |
| 05:58.30 | Codayus | Indeed. |
| 05:58.40 | Tekkub | if forced to, I consider myself a non-procticing Buddhist |
| 05:58.57 | Tekkub | but that's only cause Buddhism is the chubby-chaser's religion |
| 05:59.10 | Tekkub | well that and I like the way they think :) |
| 05:59.30 | Tekkub | if I was forced to make my own food I'd totally be a vegatarian |
| 05:59.47 | Tekkub | <--- has this weird hangup about handling raw meat |
| 06:00.23 | ckknight | really? |
| 06:00.26 | ckknight | I love handling raw meat |
| 06:00.33 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:00.36 | ckknight | that could be so sexual. |
| 06:00.41 | Tekkub | yup, I can't touch it makes me feel sick |
| 06:00.52 | Tekkub | all squishy and shit |
| 06:00.57 | ckknight | it makes me want to just bite into it and hear it yelp in pain |
| 06:01.02 | ckknight | but then I realize that I should cook it |
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| 06:01.12 | ckknight | I like my cooked mean rare to medium rare |
| 06:01.29 | Tekkub | yea see my thinging is reverse of that... I do the "Liiisaaa, don't eeeaaaat meeeeeeeee" |
| 06:01.33 | ckknight | meat* |
| 06:01.38 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:01.45 | ckknight | my freezer is full of meat |
| 06:01.49 | ckknight | well, half full now |
| 06:01.51 | ckknight | used to be full |
| 06:01.52 | Tekkub | I go for medium, con't be bloody but don't like it singed to a crisp |
| 06:01.54 | Codayus | Hmm, I like my meat unrecognizable. If I can recognize where it came from, I don't want to eat it. I don't mind knowing, I just don't want to see it. |
| 06:02.01 | Codayus | Hotdogs and hamburgers are good that way. |
| 06:02.17 | ckknight | I take a lot of joy of cooking my own food |
| 06:02.22 | Tekkub | I go for filets, and they're never good well done |
| 06:02.51 | Tekkub | Roh likes the big tough "side of beef" cause he things he gets a bunch more meat out of it |
| 06:03.10 | Tem | I like my steak mooing |
| 06:03.16 | ckknight | same |
| 06:03.19 | Tem | (but crispy on the outside) |
| 06:03.25 | Tekkub | and since filets are usually sold in 2-packs I get about as much meat as he does, and mine's so much better |
| 06:05.06 | Tekkub | erf |
| 06:05.12 | Tekkub | I need a new fucking chair |
| 06:05.25 | Tekkub | this one's got about a 15deg tilt to the right on it |
| 06:07.11 | Tekkub | so this "auto scroll chat to the bottom" mod... I think I'm gonna call it TheLowDown unless anyone's got a better name? |
| 06:07.27 | hyperChipmunk | why would you want that? |
| 06:07.52 | Tekkub | cause I always forget to scroll to the bottom and I think noone's talking in my guild |
| 06:08.04 | Tekkub | and so does this other guy that asked for the mod |
| 06:08.18 | Tekkub | and I stupidly spoke up about the ease of writing it |
| 06:08.26 | Tekkub | but then realized I'd like it too |
| 06:08.29 | hyperChipmunk | but then it'd be impossible to scroll up and read stuff |
| 06:08.31 | ckknight | as would I |
| 06:08.40 | Tekkub | nono, delay, Metrognome |
| 06:08.53 | Tekkub | like say, 20sec from the last time you scrolled the frame |
| 06:09.43 | hyperChipmunk | don't make it jump to the bottom, if you can |
| 06:09.48 | hyperChipmunk | just make it slide down =) |
| 06:09.55 | Tekkub | erf |
| 06:09.57 | Tekkub | why? |
| 06:10.00 | hyperChipmunk | that would be so cool |
| 06:10.04 | Tekkub | ScrollingMessageFrame:ScrollToBottom() |
| 06:10.10 | hyperChipmunk | lamez |
| 06:10.16 | Tekkub | I'll think about it |
| 06:10.26 | hyperChipmunk | plus, visual indicator is good |
| 06:10.28 | hyperChipmunk | so you notice it |
| 06:10.50 | Tekkub | you didn't even see reason for the mod, you don't get to make fucking feature requests |
| 06:11.10 | Tekkub | there's already a blue blinky if you're not at the top on the default frames |
| 06:11.24 | hyperChipmunk | well I thought it was going to do it, like, automatically, like you said |
| 06:11.33 | Tekkub | I call that indicator enough ***REQUEST DENIED*** |
| 06:14.02 | Tekkub | *giggle* I love the power of orange knickers |
| 06:14.17 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I think about that every day |
| 06:14.39 | Tekkub | you don't even know what it is! |
| 06:14.39 | ckknight | ... |
| 06:15.00 | hyperChipmunk | I write a monthly column in the local paper, in fact, saying how much my orange knickers mean to me |
| 06:15.07 | Tekkub | ck prabably has lame blue knickers |
| 06:16.37 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r907 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - Fixed a slider bug. |
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| 06:21.54 | Tekkub | damnit, I can't find the right XML... how many chat frames are there? |
| 06:22.15 | hyperChipmunk | 7 |
| 06:22.29 | hyperChipmunk | just keep making them until you can't maek anymore =P |
| 06:23.30 | Tekkub | okey so if it's 7 why are there 10 TabDockRegion s? |
| 06:23.37 | Tekkub | stupid blizzy |
| 06:23.39 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 06:23.43 | hyperChipmunk | I don't write the code |
| 06:23.46 | hyperChipmunk | I'm just saying |
| 06:23.49 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r908 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - made color swatch more prominent. |
| 06:23.51 | hyperChipmunk | you can create 7 |
| 06:23.57 | Tekkub | anyone else ever notice those dock higlights aren't hidden on load? |
| 06:24.06 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 06:24.28 | Tekkub | yea chip, the 7 fchatframes are right next to the 10 dock regions in the XML |
| 06:24.49 | hyperChipmunk | ha |
| 06:25.12 | hyperChipmunk | and yea, the highlights always look like a graphics glitch when I'm not looking at them directly |
| 06:25.28 | Tekkub | I'm gonna try hiding those stupid things in XML, see if it make the funny highlights when my UI draws in go away |
| 06:25.29 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r909 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBarTooltip.lua): FuBar - added font size/transparency/tooltip color/spacing to FuBar menu. |
| 06:25.37 | Tekkub | er, in LUA |
| 06:26.21 | ckknight | okay, check that out |
| 06:27.38 | hyperChipmunk | [02:27-291] FuBar\FuBarTooltip.lua:1296: attempt to index local `parentMenu' (a nil value) |
| 06:28.46 | ckknight | on it |
| 06:29.44 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r910 10FuBar/FuBarTooltip.lua: FuBar\FuBarTooltip.lua:1296: attempt to index local `parentMenu' (a nil value) |
| 06:29.53 | ckknight | okay |
| 06:30.39 | hyperChipmunk | [02:30-292] TabletLib\DewdropLib\DewdropLib.lua:712: attempt to perform arithmetic on field `sliderValue' (a nil value) |
| 06:30.55 | hyperChipmunk | when I moved over one of the slider-popouts |
| 06:31.16 | ckknight | weird |
| 06:31.27 | hyperChipmunk | and the slider pops around after you move your mouse off of it while sliding |
| 06:31.45 | hyperChipmunk | TabletLib\DewdropLib\DewdropLib.lua:705: attempt to index field `level' (a nil value) |
| 06:31.50 | ckknight | crap |
| 06:31.51 | ckknight | so it does |
| 06:31.57 | hyperChipmunk | and now I just set my font to maximum and it's stuck =P |
| 06:32.22 | hyperChipmunk | and you've got a print(set) still in there |
| 06:32.45 | hyperChipmunk | when you mvoe to the tooltip fontsize slider |
| 06:33.02 | hyperChipmunk | whew, saved by FontSizeFu |
| 06:33.20 | hyperChipmunk | factionsfu goes blurpf |
| 06:33.26 | hyperChipmunk | but you have a message on that one |
| 06:36.25 | Tekkub | don't you mean BIZARRO blurpFU ? |
| 06:39.13 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 06:41.16 | hyperChipmunk | that's precisely what I meant |
| 06:44.23 | kergoth | whee, crazy insert mode mappings in vim, so when i type 'do ' it automatically replaces it with a do end block, newline delimited, and puts the cursor between them :) |
| 06:44.53 | hyperChipmunk | pastebin plzor |
| 06:45.11 | hyperChipmunk | I want to leech your effort |
| 06:45.36 | [MoonWolf] | I hate your vim. |
| 06:45.39 | hyperChipmunk | actually, if you wouldn't mind throwing your entire .vimrc up there =) |
| 06:45.59 | [MoonWolf] | he has entire vim configuration svned for gods sake. |
| 06:46.11 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 06:46.25 | [MoonWolf] | s\has\ has his\ |
| 06:46.32 | hyperChipmunk | wrong direction nub |
| 06:46.41 | [MoonWolf] | :/ |
| 06:46.51 | hyperChipmunk | and those backslashes need to be escaped =) |
| 06:47.08 | ckknight | the problem was I was using a FILO instead of a FIFO pool structure |
| 06:47.44 | hyperChipmunk | isn't it usually LIFO? |
| 06:47.50 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, svn co http://kergoth.com/svn/homefiles .. grab .vimrc and .vim |
| 06:47.51 | kergoth | :P |
| 06:48.00 | kergoth | the new insert mode magic isnt in svn yet though |
| 06:48.02 | kergoth | its crazy stuff |
| 06:48.15 | hyperChipmunk | so pastebin |
| 06:48.18 | Tekkub | HUZZAH! It warks! |
| 06:48.18 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/projects/homefiles/timeline |
| 06:48.32 | Tekkub | time to make chippey's "fancy scroll" |
| 06:48.53 | ckknight | LIFO, yea |
| 06:48.57 | ckknight | whatever |
| 06:48.58 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, you'll need the imaps.vim script from plugins/ in the latex suite .zip file from http://vim-latex.sourceforge.net/index.php?subject=download&title=Download |
| 06:49.13 | kergoth | then i'll give you some example usages of it to do the fancy stuff i referred to |
| 06:49.29 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: your addon is a chocobo? |
| 06:49.39 | kergoth | put imaps.vim in your ~/.vim/plugins, or if you're in windows, your vimfiles/plugins dir in your docs & settings directory for your user |
| 06:49.43 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r911 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - fixed slider bugs |
| 06:50.03 | Elkano | moonwolf, remember me asking you about adding sth like ths http://www.curse-gaming.com/modscreens.php?id=1743 to Mendeleev where you said it wouldn't be possible with the current PT? Tekkub said it would :) |
| 06:50.14 | Tekkub | no chip, Chobiis say "kweh" |
| 06:50.32 | Tekkub | yea moon! you tard! |
| 06:51.17 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 06:51.24 | hyperChipmunk | what says "wark" then? |
| 06:51.27 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, check it out now? |
| 06:51.34 | hyperChipmunk | working on it! |
| 06:51.38 | hyperChipmunk | hang on! |
| 06:51.42 | Tekkub | retarded chobiis from those other games |
| 06:51.51 | hyperChipmunk | i see |
| 06:51.52 | Tekkub | proper FFXI chobiis say KWEH! |
| 06:52.06 | Tekkub | KWEH! KWEH! |
| 06:52.19 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, you said you had to change PT. |
| 06:52.21 | Tekkub | and remember, all chobi masters are elvaan females |
| 06:52.22 | hyperChipmunk | ffxi, wasn't that the mmorpg one? |
| 06:52.25 | [MoonWolf] | you said that yourself. |
| 06:52.40 | Tekkub | ... except that one taru one in Windy, but hey, one in 10 |
| 06:53.05 | kergoth | there we are, mappings for beginning a do...end block, a function() end block, and a while loop |
| 06:53.15 | Tekkub | no moon, I have to change PT to fix the issue with that one transmute recepie |
| 06:53.20 | Elkano | well, he said the color information is sent as a returnvalue of the call and tge rest could be done recursively |
| 06:53.21 | kergoth | criminey, i'm so lazy my editor is practically coding for me |
| 06:53.21 | [MoonWolf] | aha |
| 06:53.22 | kergoth | :D |
| 06:53.39 | [MoonWolf] | kergoth, and you told us you were being productive at work.... |
| 06:54.05 | kergoth | i got lots of unit tests written today, and a ton of doxygen documentation.. fun fun |
| 06:54.06 | Tekkub | yea be caresful with those dumb transmutes and the recursion, get stuck in a undeath >> water >> air >> undeath loop :) |
| 06:54.46 | [MoonWolf] | Elkano, in that case. I will work on it soon. |
| 06:55.10 | Tekkub | monn: just query on the uses of the result... |
| 06:55.28 | Tekkub | x is used to make y, y is used to make z, z is used to make... etc |
| 06:55.40 | [MoonWolf] | hmmm |
| 06:55.47 | Tekkub | and the colors are easy to do :) |
| 06:55.56 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: alright, hit me |
| 06:56.02 | [MoonWolf] | I will need to sort this out by hard I think. |
| 06:56.08 | [MoonWolf] | yay for memory use. |
| 06:56.19 | Tekkub | yea, I know :P Compost |
| 06:56.27 | [MoonWolf] | yep |
| 06:56.41 | ckknight | just keep a table that holds info you've previously gone through |
| 06:56.48 | ckknight | wouldn't that be the easiest? |
| 06:57.14 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, okay, you got imaps in place? then put the entries from http://pastebin.com/682453 into your .vimrc (or _vimrc in windows) |
| 06:57.30 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: the print("set") is still there |
| 06:57.33 | kergoth | the <++>'s are cursor positions |
| 06:57.43 | kergoth | hit ctrl+j to jump to the next one as you're coding |
| 06:57.47 | kergoth | its pretty slick |
| 06:57.54 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, yea, I took that out |
| 06:57.56 | hyperChipmunk | i use linux, so you can drop the 'if in windows' |
| 06:57.58 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, beside that, though |
| 06:58.05 | hyperChipmunk | besides that, it's beauty |
| 06:58.06 | kergoth | thanks, that saves me typing :) |
| 06:58.08 | ckknight | sweet |
| 06:59.31 | hyperChipmunk | oh, you need to change that 'cancel' to 'close' |
| 06:59.38 | hyperChipmunk | that's bugged me forever |
| 06:59.50 | hyperChipmunk | unless you actually intend to rollback changes when you click it |
| 06:59.55 | hyperChipmunk | it should be a close |
| 07:00.06 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:01.11 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r912 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBAr - CANCEL -> CLOSE |
| 07:01.25 | hyperChipmunk | tooltips too |
| 07:01.37 | hyperChipmunk | or does that catch 'em all |
| 07:02.30 | Elkano | Moonwolf, you could keep a list of all items mentioned in the tooltip and if you come over the same item again show it once again but state that all that can be done from it is "..." |
| 07:03.26 | Elkano | so the user will see that a loop is starting there but nothing more :) |
| 07:04.07 | [MoonWolf] | Elkano, I will think on it later. |
| 07:04.12 | [MoonWolf] | I have other code to think about now |
| 07:04.15 | [MoonWolf] | work related code |
| 07:04.18 | Elkano | take your time :) |
| 07:04.20 | hyperChipmunk | hm, kergoth |
| 07:04.21 | hyperChipmunk | nothing |
| 07:04.47 | kergoth | no errors? |
| 07:04.54 | hyperChipmunk | no errors |
| 07:04.57 | hyperChipmunk | how do I trigger it? |
| 07:05.20 | kergoth | type 'do ' |
| 07:05.22 | kergoth | (with the space) |
| 07:05.27 | kergoth | it should complete it with an end |
| 07:05.35 | hyperChipmunk | nothing |
| 07:05.36 | hyperChipmunk | you sux |
| 07:05.51 | hyperChipmunk | you liar |
| 07:05.51 | kergoth | :echo g:Imap_StickyPlaceHolders |
| 07:05.57 | kergoth | whats that show? |
| 07:06.00 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 07:06.04 | hyperChipmunk | needs to be in lua mode? |
| 07:06.12 | kergoth | ? |
| 07:06.19 | kergoth | you need to be in a lua file |
| 07:06.23 | kergoth | so the filetype is lua |
| 07:06.26 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's what I mean |
| 07:06.37 | hyperChipmunk | there we go =) |
| 07:06.38 | kergoth | thats what the third argument of the calls to IMAP() is |
| 07:06.39 | kergoth | the filetype |
| 07:06.45 | hyperChipmunk | yep, just caught that |
| 07:06.46 | kergoth | if you leave that blank, itll do the replacement in all files |
| 07:06.55 | kergoth | i.e. IMAP("foo", "bar", "") |
| 07:06.58 | hyperChipmunk | i normally test stuff right there in the .vimrc |
| 07:07.12 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r913 10FuBar/FuBarTooltip.lua: FuBar - CANCEL -> CLOSE |
| 07:07.15 | kergoth | call IMAP ('date`', "\<c-r>=strftime('%b %d %Y')\<cr>", '') is a cool one |
| 07:07.20 | kergoth | type date` and it replaces it with the date |
| 07:07.28 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r914 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - CANCEL -> CLOSE |
| 07:07.36 | hyperChipmunk | ooooh |
| 07:08.14 | kergoth | next i'm playing with templates, so that editing a new .lua file will automatically put a comment block at the top with luadoc comments and your copyright and such |
| 07:09.12 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:09.25 | [MoonWolf] | luadoc |
| 07:09.26 | ckknight | I'm satisfied with TabletLib and DewdropLib for now |
| 07:09.31 | [MoonWolf] | there is a javadoc like thing for lua ? |
| 07:09.34 | ckknight | now to convert all my plugins to 1.1 |
| 07:09.36 | kergoth | yea moon |
| 07:09.40 | kergoth | like javadoc or doxygen |
| 07:09.41 | [MoonWolf] | \o/ |
| 07:09.43 | kergoth | its prety basic atm |
| 07:09.47 | kergoth | need to enhance it |
| 07:10.00 | [MoonWolf] | still |
| 07:10.01 | [MoonWolf] | cool |
| 07:10.29 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: this is cool stuff |
| 07:10.34 | kergoth | isnt it though :) |
| 07:10.37 | hyperChipmunk | I could get lost for days doing this =) |
| 07:10.40 | kergoth | i'm having fun mapping all sorts of things |
| 07:10.41 | kergoth | yeah |
| 07:10.48 | kergoth | hurrah for aids for our laziness! |
| 07:10.55 | hyperChipmunk | ~cheer |
| 07:10.56 | purl | shift to the left, unshift to the right, push down, pop up, byte byte byte. |
| 07:11.53 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, grab the doc/imaps.txt from the latex tarball and put it in your .vim/doc, then do :helptags ~/.vim/doc, then you can :help imaps |
| 07:13.24 | ckknight | hey, how do I make something hide when escape is pressed? |
| 07:13.57 | *** join/#wowace Firedancer (n=Miranda@cpe-24-58-108-74.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 07:14.19 | hyperChipmunk | you have to do some tinsert UITemplate thingy |
| 07:14.23 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 07:15.17 | Tekkub | huzzah! it works |
| 07:15.23 | hyperChipmunk | tekkub! <3 |
| 07:15.34 | Tekkub | and yea chip, the real scrolly is neater than the blip to the bottom |
| 07:15.40 | hyperChipmunk | i told you |
| 07:15.51 | hyperChipmunk | plus visual cue |
| 07:16.11 | Tekkub | screw visual, totally unneeded |
| 07:16.49 | hyperChipmunk | UIPanelWindows['YourFrameName'] = somethingoranother |
| 07:16.56 | Tekkub | if you want some sort of visual don't hide the default scrolly buttons |
| 07:17.03 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 07:17.07 | hyperChipmunk | i mean, that you see it when it happens |
| 07:17.17 | Tekkub | huh? |
| 07:17.23 | Tekkub | oh |
| 07:17.24 | hyperChipmunk | if it just blips to the bottom |
| 07:17.26 | hyperChipmunk | there's no movement |
| 07:17.26 | Tekkub | okey yea sure |
| 07:17.32 | Tekkub | :P |
| 07:17.54 | hyperChipmunk | it's a way to tell the user that it's happening, without being intrusive |
| 07:18.13 | hyperChipmunk | and it seemed like it'd be super-spiffy, too boot |
| 07:18.18 | hyperChipmunk | s/too/to/ |
| 07:20.53 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: you need something like UIPanelWindows['YourFrameName'] = { area = "center", pushable = 0 } |
| 07:21.13 | hyperChipmunk | so tek |
| 07:21.17 | hyperChipmunk | where's my autoscroller |
| 07:21.21 | ckknight | the frame has no name |
| 07:21.30 | hyperChipmunk | well that's a bit of a problem |
| 07:22.27 | hyperChipmunk | cuz it's kinda hard to register it in UIPanelWindows if it don't have a name to register it under =P |
| 07:23.07 | Elkano | how about adding 'whileDead = 1', too? ;) |
| 07:23.14 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 07:23.21 | hyperChipmunk | that's for stuff like rezframes |
| 07:23.31 | hyperChipmunk | or no |
| 07:23.37 | hyperChipmunk | it's things you're allowed to show when dead |
| 07:23.52 | hyperChipmunk | you definitely want that |
| 07:24.15 | hyperChipmunk | I hate when I'm FD and can't open any frames |
| 07:24.26 | Elkano | I know from ItemDB since I didn't have that in for a while... |
| 07:24.48 | Tekkub | I don't get that really... "No the user can't look at their equipment while they're waiting for the raid to get rez'd... they're DEAD!" |
| 07:25.14 | Tekkub | *stares at StaticPopup1 for 5 min |
| 07:25.39 | Elkano | why don't we simply overwrite these settings? ;) |
| 07:25.41 | hyperChipmunk | you can't open up the battleground instance windows while FD |
| 07:26.11 | hyperChipmunk | or inspect or trade |
| 07:26.30 | [MoonWolf] | well, eeuh, trading with a dead person.... |
| 07:26.35 | [MoonWolf] | that is kinda logical |
| 07:26.39 | id` | kergoth: pong |
| 07:26.40 | hyperChipmunk | FD? |
| 07:26.44 | hyperChipmunk | rofl id |
| 07:26.50 | id` | ;D |
| 07:26.50 | [MoonWolf] | how are they supposed to know |
| 07:26.52 | id` | morning |
| 07:26.56 | [MoonWolf] | morning id` |
| 07:26.57 | hyperChipmunk | he pinged you like 10 hours ago |
| 07:27.04 | id` | hyperChipmunk: i know i went to bed |
| 07:27.04 | id` | :p |
| 07:27.26 | hyperChipmunk | i think you timed out |
| 07:27.39 | Elkano | how about a 'for k,v in UIPanelWindows do UIPanelWindows[k].whileDead = 1 end' would that work? |
| 07:28.00 | id` | nop i didnt :-) |
| 07:28.21 | hyperChipmunk | Elkano: one way to find out O_o |
| 07:29.35 | hyperChipmunk | didn't help my inspect window =P |
| 07:30.39 | hyperChipmunk | seems to have no effect |
| 07:31.47 | hyperChipmunk | i mean, it sets the value, obviously |
| 07:32.05 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r915 10TheLowDown/ (. Core.lua TheLowDown.toc): |
| 07:32.05 | CIA-13 | TheLowDown - Initial submission |
| 07:32.05 | CIA-13 | ** Automatically scrolls chatframes to the bottom after a short timeout ** |
| 07:32.07 | hyperChipmunk | gonna set them all to nil and see what happens |
| 07:32.23 | hyperChipmunk | ouch, yea |
| 07:32.27 | hyperChipmunk | it does work |
| 07:32.30 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 07:32.32 | [MoonWolf] | I need to figure out a way to stay logged in all the time and get logs of what happend when I was away sent to my client. |
| 07:32.39 | id` | Tekkub: a timeout of inactivity in the chatframe, I hope. |
| 07:32.39 | hyperChipmunk | inspectframe doesn't seem to be part of the list |
| 07:33.06 | id` | [MoonWolf]: get a bouncer account |
| 07:33.35 | id` | [MoonWolf]: I just run a remote client (irssi) and let my screen session detach |
| 07:33.48 | [MoonWolf] | I need to be able to shut down the pc. |
| 07:33.54 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r916 10TheLowDown/ (. Core.lua TheLowDown.toc): TheLowDown - Setting svn:externals and svn:keywords |
| 07:34.01 | hyperChipmunk | run the session somewhere else =) |
| 07:34.04 | id` | [MoonWolf]: "remote" |
| 07:34.10 | Tekkub | id: a timeout since your last scroll op on that frame |
| 07:34.13 | [MoonWolf] | remote WHERE.... |
| 07:34.16 | hyperChipmunk | 03:34 Irssi uptime: 20d 12h 22m 8s |
| 07:34.20 | hyperChipmunk | =x |
| 07:34.28 | id` | [MoonWolf]: google.com/search?q=free+bnc+accounts |
| 07:34.33 | id` | [MoonWolf]: google.com/search?q=free+unix+shells |
| 07:34.35 | id` | :) |
| 07:34.46 | [MoonWolf] | and that would mean I have to use irssi, and I dont like it. |
| 07:34.52 | hyperChipmunk | heathen |
| 07:35.01 | id` | Youll like it in time |
| 07:35.05 | id` | <-- helpdesk |
| 07:35.09 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 07:35.14 | hyperChipmunk | try it, you'll love it! |
| 07:35.27 | [MoonWolf] | I like my non text based xchat gui |
| 07:35.38 | id` | I like pie |
| 07:35.47 | hyperChipmunk | boss likes trillian |
| 07:35.55 | [MoonWolf] | xchat is like pie, only you never run out of xchat. |
| 07:36.19 | hyperChipmunk | it's like pie and chips...for free |
| 07:36.20 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten|Work (n=Kaelten@68.63.3.183) |
| 07:36.25 | id` | hi mr K |
| 07:36.32 | id` | meestar kay :D |
| 07:36.33 | hyperChipmunk | except you can get pie and chips anywhere |
| 07:38.36 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: i don't suppose there's any "options" with this |
| 07:39.17 | Tekkub | nope! |
| 07:39.19 | id` | Tekkub: suggestion, a timeout to set |
| 07:39.20 | FryGuy- | i like trilly too :p |
| 07:39.26 | Tekkub | you want a diff timeout change line 19 |
| 07:39.32 | FryGuy- | but hydrairc for irc |
| 07:39.39 | FryGuy- | cause i'm in too many channels for trilly |
| 07:39.43 | id` | Tekkub: good choice! |
| 07:40.09 | Tekkub | I even put a nice comment, and I'm adding the info to the description |
| 07:40.15 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 07:40.26 | [MoonWolf] | hydrairc is icky |
| 07:40.35 | [MoonWolf] | to many windows that need managing. |
| 07:40.42 | [MoonWolf] | not enough focus on the actual chat. |
| 07:40.57 | hyperChipmunk | so this moves one line every 20 seconds? |
| 07:40.58 | [MoonWolf] | IMHO |
| 07:41.54 | FryGuy- | heh |
| 07:42.02 | Tekkub | no chip |
| 07:42.07 | FryGuy- | well if you're only in 1 channel then it doesnt' really matter |
| 07:42.10 | hyperChipmunk | wanna bet? O_o |
| 07:42.11 | Tekkub | it delays for 20sec from the last scroll |
| 07:42.14 | FryGuy- | but i'm in a bunch so it's a lot easier to manage |
| 07:42.19 | Tekkub | then it does 1 line each 10.1 sec |
| 07:42.23 | Tekkub | * 0.1 |
| 07:42.34 | hyperChipmunk | no it does one line each 20 seconds =) |
| 07:42.43 | Tekkub | it was the best time I found, noticable but not too slow/fast |
| 07:42.45 | [MoonWolf] | FryGuy-, can you give me a screenie of your hydraic setup ? |
| 07:43.01 | hyperChipmunk | let's time it |
| 07:43.10 | hyperChipmunk | k scrolled |
| 07:43.29 | hyperChipmunk | one line |
| 07:43.32 | Tekkub | god damnit |
| 07:43.36 | Tekkub | *fixes* |
| 07:43.47 | hyperChipmunk | two lines |
| 07:44.09 | hyperChipmunk | oooh, there goes another |
| 07:44.19 | [MoonWolf] | http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7530/ircsetup4rn.jpg <- how xchat looks for me. |
| 07:44.36 | [Ammo] | irssi |
| 07:44.39 | FryGuy- | http://i3.tinypic.com/wi9i11.jpg |
| 07:44.42 | [Ammo] | the only way to go :) |
| 07:44.45 | hyperChipmunk | ooh, that one moved all 4 lines of the "Ace Initilization Complete" |
| 07:45.35 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's one chunk every 20 |
| 07:45.50 | hyperChipmunk | I'm guessing the "lines" in the ace message are \n's |
| 07:46.04 | hyperChipmunk | so it got treated as one |
| 07:46.30 | [MoonWolf] | thats what I mean... you have so much screen space wasted with information I dont want to have |
| 07:46.59 | FryGuy- | :\ |
| 07:47.02 | [MoonWolf] | althouhg a highlite tab isnt a half bad idea |
| 07:47.17 | FryGuy- | the channel monitor is really nice |
| 07:47.20 | FryGuy- | REALLY nice |
| 07:47.21 | [MoonWolf] | seeing as I am In a lot more channels at home. |
| 07:47.28 | FryGuy- | like you think it's a stupid idea at first |
| 07:47.39 | hyperChipmunk | um dude |
| 07:47.41 | FryGuy- | it means you can have the channels you don't really care about minimized |
| 07:47.48 | Tekkub | it's cause I added the stop timer on scroll thing in case the user scrolls while it's going, and thus it stopped itsself every time it scrolled |
| 07:47.48 | FryGuy- | and not miss out on stuff :p |
| 07:47.49 | hyperChipmunk | you irc fullscreen? |
| 07:47.56 | [MoonWolf] | eeuh yes. |
| 07:48.05 | hyperChipmunk | heh tek =P |
| 07:48.10 | FryGuy- | yes? |
| 07:48.25 | hyperChipmunk | irssi does that too |
| 07:48.28 | hyperChipmunk | it looks like this: |
| 07:48.35 | [MoonWolf] | alt tab is your friend |
| 07:48.41 | [MoonWolf] | or a second screen |
| 07:48.44 | hyperChipmunk | [1, 3] |
| 07:48.49 | [MoonWolf] | but my laptop is blessed with only one screen. |
| 07:48.51 | hyperChipmunk | I do have a second screen |
| 07:49.03 | hyperChipmunk | irc takes the top-third at most |
| 07:49.08 | hyperChipmunk | of one virtual desktop |
| 07:50.17 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.30 | Elkano | if i do: 'for k, v in table do v.x = bla end' will that change the table? |
| 07:50.35 | hyperChipmunk | that [Act: 1] is my channel monitor |
| 07:51.05 | hyperChipmunk | Elkano: the code you posted before did work; I was mistaken |
| 07:51.42 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: plz fix so i can go sleep |
| 07:51.45 | hyperChipmunk | =( |
| 07:51.46 | Elkano | oh, cool :) who will release RottenEyes (allows you to view frames while dead)? |
| 07:51.52 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r917 10TheLowDown/Core.lua: TheLowDown - Fixed bug that caused TLD to only scroll one line per 20sec |
| 07:51.55 | Tekkub | STFU! |
| 07:52.15 | hyperChipmunk | i just stuck it in my scratch addon =P |
| 07:52.29 | id` | [MoonWolf]: http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7356/untitled2ea1.png |
| 07:52.41 | id` | work+irc |
| 07:52.42 | id` | :p |
| 07:52.46 | Tekkub | ConglomoMod <-- my mod of misc bits of script |
| 07:53.07 | [MoonWolf] | I want your screenspace |
| 07:53.12 | FryGuy- | you're not using putty? gasp |
| 07:53.13 | [MoonWolf] | I run at 1024x786 |
| 07:53.17 | [MoonWolf] | I cant fit that much on screen. |
| 07:53.19 | id` | 1680x1050 - laptop |
| 07:53.22 | id` | FryGuy-: i am? |
| 07:53.50 | id` | (and im also using IE6 inside FF :-)) |
| 07:53.52 | FryGuy- | you're not? |
| 07:53.54 | id` | i am? |
| 07:54.04 | FryGuy- | bottom right doesn't look like putty |
| 07:54.13 | id` | bottom left does |
| 07:54.22 | id` | :P |
| 07:54.32 | id` | " - PuTTY" |
| 07:54.34 | FryGuy- | true |
| 07:54.39 | FryGuy- | wierd cursor |
| 07:54.42 | FryGuy- | and menubar :/ |
| 07:54.55 | Tekkub | http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3071/desktop3wg.jpg |
| 07:54.58 | Tekkub | that's me :) |
| 07:55.06 | id` | its just win2000 looks,... |
| 07:56.15 | FryGuy- | ya |
| 07:56.19 | FryGuy- | realized that |
| 07:56.23 | FryGuy- | at work i actually have 2k |
| 07:56.27 | FryGuy- | so that's why it looked odd |
| 07:56.38 | id` | riiiight :S |
| 07:56.43 | id` | :P |
| 07:56.47 | FryGuy- | it's true |
| 07:56.57 | FryGuy- | i haven't used that skin in ages :p |
| 07:57.06 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r918 10TheLowDown/ (Core.lua TheLowDown.toc): TheLowDown - Metadata update for release |
| 07:57.07 | FryGuy- | er theme |
| 07:57.38 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r919 10/tags/TheLowDown/: TheLowDown - Creating tag path |
| 07:57.58 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub 07v1 * r920 10TheLowDown/: TheLowDown (tag) - v1 |
| 07:59.03 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r921 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed grid layout |
| 07:59.10 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/foo.jpg |
| 07:59.25 | FryGuy- | is there an option for PRT to show the target of the stuff on the list? |
| 07:59.43 | ckknight | hey, would there be a place on SVN to put "deprecated" addons, that have been replaced or have no point anymore? |
| 08:00.26 | ckknight | cool desktop, hyperChipmunk |
| 08:00.27 | hyperChipmunk | tags aren't deleted |
| 08:01.06 | hyperChipmunk | that's not my desktop; import picks up wow, but not the interface for some reason =) |
| 08:01.20 | hyperChipmunk | that's actually what's on my screen right now =P |
| 08:01.39 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:01.57 | Elkano | Tekkub: my first thought when seeing your shot was: cool, FoBar for Windows :) |
| 08:03.01 | Tekkub | yea I always have a line at top and bottom so I might notice chat from WoW |
| 08:03.06 | Tekkub | like I ever get any.... |
| 08:06.10 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: neat =) |
| 08:06.25 | Tekkub | :) |
| 08:06.48 | Tekkub | I need to get in the habit of writing up a wiki page and then submitting to WoWI immediatly after writing a mod |
| 08:07.02 | Tekkub | and I need to skim thru the SVN and WoWI-ify all my shit |
| 08:07.18 | hyperChipmunk | any way to see how many lines need to be scrolled? |
| 08:07.29 | Wobin_ | Alas |
| 08:07.31 | hyperChipmunk | you could do accel/decel, and faster over long distances =) |
| 08:07.33 | Wobin_ | I can't seem to get MountMe to work |
| 08:07.45 | Tekkub | oh god piss off, you're overcomplicating a mod that should be uber-simple |
| 08:07.49 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 08:07.56 | Tekkub | and no, not that I know of |
| 08:07.58 | Tekkub | :) |
| 08:08.10 | hyperChipmunk | dude, you'd totally do it if you could |
| 08:08.17 | hyperChipmunk | you aren't fooling anybody |
| 08:08.27 | Tekkub | :P can't prove nuthin! |
| 08:08.50 | Tekkub | I'd have to unregister/reregister with metro, it'd get messy |
| 08:09.19 | Tekkub | hehe |
| 08:09.27 | Tekkub | wiki page title: |
| 08:09.27 | hyperChipmunk | see? youre already contemplating it |
| 08:09.32 | Tekkub | The Low Down Addon |
| 08:09.52 | hyperChipmunk | but not dirty nor good-for-nothing? |
| 08:09.58 | Tekkub | no! |
| 08:10.29 | hyperChipmunk | I'd call it The Low Down on TheLowDown |
| 08:10.48 | Tekkub | nah, the wiki pages got a structure to em |
| 08:10.58 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 08:11.36 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: good news, I haven't seen any screwy disabled dropdown menus in several hours |
| 08:11.48 | ckknight | hooray |
| 08:12.20 | hyperChipmunk | color doesn't change color however |
| 08:12.25 | hyperChipmunk | on detached tooltips |
| 08:12.29 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:12.34 | ckknight | will test |
| 08:12.35 | hyperChipmunk | only the transparency takes |
| 08:12.35 | ckknight | later... |
| 08:12.45 | Tekkub | oh yea, time to play with DudeRop while the hubby's at the store |
| 08:14.13 | id` | TMI FYI TBH LOL |
| 08:14.14 | ckknight | don't be afraid to request more features |
| 08:14.41 | id` | ckknight: can it make me blueberrywafflez? |
| 08:14.43 | Tekkub | LOL OMG STFU IKU! |
| 08:14.47 | id` | IKU? |
| 08:14.52 | Tekkub | ~kick id` |
| 08:14.53 | purl | bugger off sod! |
| 08:14.53 | ckknight | O RLY? |
| 08:15.01 | ckknight | id`, not quite |
| 08:15.06 | id` | ckknight: aww :( |
| 08:15.43 | hyperChipmunk | iku probably i keel u |
| 08:15.46 | hyperChipmunk | ~wtf iku |
| 08:16.00 | hyperChipmunk | i've never found one that purl does know =P |
| 08:16.04 | hyperChipmunk | ~wtf wtf |
| 08:16.11 | id` | hehe |
| 08:16.29 | ckknight | ~wtf wtg |
| 08:16.45 | ckknight | it's either way to go or what the gay |
| 08:17.01 | id` | way to go |
| 08:17.02 | id` | :p |
| 08:17.06 | Tekkub | ~wtf ttf |
| 08:17.10 | ckknight | it functions as either |
| 08:17.16 | Tekkub | ~you suck |
| 08:17.29 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 08:17.36 | hyperChipmunk | they take that out? |
| 08:17.55 | Tekkub | ~you suck |
| 08:17.56 | purl | Thank you! That will be $5 |
| 08:18.03 | Tekkub | that's better |
| 08:18.34 | hyperChipmunk | that's not what he said to me before |
| 08:18.36 | hyperChipmunk | purl sucks |
| 08:18.38 | purl | I bite too. |
| 08:18.43 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 08:18.46 | hyperChipmunk | that's not it either |
| 08:19.13 | hyperChipmunk | purl sucks |
| 08:19.15 | purl | You'd like that, wouldn't you? |
| 08:19.30 | hyperChipmunk | ah, he's got a repitoire |
| 08:19.36 | hyperChipmunk | purl sucks |
| 08:19.37 | purl | For five bucks I just might |
| 08:19.41 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 08:19.54 | hyperChipmunk | purl sucks |
| 08:19.55 | purl | Look who's talking |
| 08:19.59 | hyperChipmunk | ohhhhh |
| 08:20.04 | [MoonWolf] | he has a few good ones too. |
| 08:20.14 | hyperChipmunk | he called me a bad word one time |
| 08:20.35 | hyperChipmunk | ah, |
| 08:20.37 | hyperChipmunk | purl, you sux |
| 08:20.39 | purl | no you fucking suck hyperchipmunk! |
| 08:20.50 | hyperChipmunk | that was it =) |
| 08:21.23 | hyperChipmunk | purl sucks |
| 08:21.25 | purl | I bite too. |
| 08:21.38 | hyperChipmunk | purl is repetitive |
| 08:22.52 | id` | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1058.0.html |
| 08:23.29 | hyperChipmunk | purl, purl \is repetitive is <reply>I'm repetitive, too. |
| 08:23.30 | purl | hyperChipmunk: okay |
| 08:23.34 | hyperChipmunk | purl is repetitive |
| 08:23.39 | hyperChipmunk | doh |
| 08:23.42 | hyperChipmunk | hum |
| 08:23.48 | hyperChipmunk | purl, \is repetitive is <reply>I'm repetitive, too. |
| 08:23.50 | purl | okay, hyperChipmunk |
| 08:23.55 | hyperChipmunk | purl is repetitive |
| 08:23.57 | purl | I'm repetitive, too. |
| 08:24.06 | id` | :p |
| 08:24.09 | id` | hyperChipmunk: linky |
| 08:24.15 | hyperChipmunk | purl, no, \is repetitive is <reply>I'm repetitive, also. |
| 08:24.16 | purl | hyperChipmunk: okay |
| 08:24.35 | hyperChipmunk | purl, forget purl \is repetitive |
| 08:24.35 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'purl \is repetitive' to forget, hyperChipmunk |
| 08:24.42 | hyperChipmunk | ~listkeys repetitive |
| 08:24.59 | hyperChipmunk | ~repetitive ask |
| 08:25.01 | purl | well, repetitive ask is when someone asks the same question over and over and over again. Ask once. If someone knows the answer, they'll probably respond. If nobody responds, then wait at least 5 minutes before asking again. Don't ask a third time as you'll only piss people off. |
| 08:25.19 | hyperChipmunk | how do i get him to forget that middle one |
| 08:25.32 | id` | you dont hes a bot |
| 08:25.34 | id` | :|| |
| 08:25.54 | id` | go program lua not bots ^___^ |
| 08:26.48 | [MoonWolf] | go program lua bots... |
| 08:27.23 | Tekkub | Boss< any of your FuBared plugins use DudeRop yet? |
| 08:27.27 | hyperChipmunk | clockfu |
| 08:28.17 | Tekkub | ah kew |
| 08:28.20 | Tekkub | *looks* |
| 08:28.24 | id` | Tekkub: go watch tv! |
| 08:28.33 | hyperChipmunk | and the main bar rightclick now |
| 08:28.33 | Tekkub | he's at the store bitch |
| 08:28.36 | Tekkub | :P |
| 08:28.42 | id` | Tekkub: then look at my pb bitch |
| 08:28.45 | id` | pm, even |
| 08:29.05 | Tekkub | I don't have time to read and you typed like, a bunch |
| 08:29.06 | id` | nn sedatedChipmunk |
| 08:29.25 | sedatedChipmunk | purl is repetitive |
| 08:29.26 | purl | I'm repetitive, also. |
| 08:29.26 | id` | :P |
| 08:29.26 | sedatedChipmunk | =( |
| 08:29.28 | [MoonWolf] | what is all the bitching.... |
| 08:29.29 | id` | \o/ |
| 08:29.30 | Tekkub | it's the hubby's only night off in like 2 weeks, bugg off sod! |
| 08:29.31 | id` | lag hehe |
| 08:29.33 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 08:29.36 | sedatedChipmunk | purl is slow, too =P |
| 08:29.46 | [MoonWolf] | Tekkub, get away from pc then / |
| 08:29.47 | [MoonWolf] | ?8 |
| 08:29.50 | [MoonWolf] | ?****** |
| 08:29.52 | id` | ---^ |
| 08:30.23 | sedatedChipmunk | >*((O))*< |
| 08:30.42 | sedatedChipmunk | hey, tootsie roll~! |
| 08:30.45 | Tekkub | no... moon... |
| 08:30.45 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.45 | Tekkub | <Tekkub> wanted to look at DewDrop before then |
| 08:30.52 | [MoonWolf] | aha |
| 08:31.03 | id` | no fair? |
| 08:31.07 | Tekkub | but you're all wasting my pressssicousss alone time! |
| 08:31.15 | sedatedChipmunk | have a tootsie roll |
| 08:31.22 | [MoonWolf] | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.23 | sedatedChipmunk | >*((()))*< |
| 08:31.35 | id` | ~bonk sedatedChipmunk |
| 08:31.36 | purl | ACTION bonks sedatedChipmunk over the head |
| 08:32.03 | sedatedChipmunk | hum, that's kinda dependent on the position of * in your font, though |
| 08:32.16 | id` | center |
| 08:32.17 | sedatedChipmunk | trust me, it looks good! |
| 08:32.26 | id` | sedatedChipmunk: less crack |
| 08:32.29 | id` | sedatedChipmunk: or more! |
| 08:32.37 | sedatedChipmunk | how about more slee? |
| 08:32.38 | sedatedChipmunk | p |
| 08:32.43 | sedatedChipmunk | yes, I think that's better |
| 08:32.47 | id` | oki bye |
| 08:33.16 | id` | anyone awake and not having sex0r that knws how invsort works now? |
| 08:33.31 | id` | :p |
| 08:33.57 | [MoonWolf] | not me. |
| 08:39.52 | id` | clad|sleep: |
| 08:39.59 | id` | still asleep :( |
| 08:40.05 | id` | wonder if he got my email |
| 08:40.33 | id` | How do i delete a wiki page? |
| 08:41.32 | [MoonWolf] | Only administrators have the ability to delete and undelete pages, . |
| 08:45.16 | id` | k |
| 08:49.31 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r922 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed grid bug. |
| 08:50.04 | id` | ckknight: grid? |
| 08:50.11 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:50.19 | ckknight | 3 or 4 columns |
| 08:50.25 | id` | of what |
| 08:52.09 | ckknight | it's to replace the frame's tooltip |
| 08:52.18 | Tekkub | Bossman: complaint.... |
| 08:52.23 | ckknight | yea? |
| 08:52.30 | Tekkub | DudeRop menus don't clear when you hit ESC |
| 08:52.33 | ckknight | I know |
| 08:52.35 | ckknight | I brought this up |
| 08:52.40 | ckknight | know how to fix it? |
| 08:52.58 | ckknight | and call it Dewdrop, not DudeRop |
| 08:53.12 | Tekkub | Well uhm... register the frame name with whateverthatwas, which means you need to define em with aglobal name |
| 08:53.17 | Tekkub | NEVAR! |
| 08:53.42 | ckknight | no you don't |
| 08:53.49 | ckknight | wait |
| 08:53.51 | ckknight | ? |
| 08:53.57 | ckknight | I don't want a global name |
| 08:54.01 | Tekkub | dewdrop:AddLine() == Blank line? |
| 08:54.04 | ckknight | yep |
| 08:54.08 | Tekkub | SWEETS! |
| 08:54.34 | ckknight | yea, if there's no arguments, it assumes that it's a blank line |
| 08:54.47 | ckknight | all it does is convert to dewdrop:AddLine('disabled', true) |
| 08:54.56 | ckknight | it's still nice, though |
| 08:55.02 | ckknight | to not have to deal with that shit |
| 08:55.08 | ckknight | just know that it's blank |
| 08:56.19 | Tekkub | works if you pass a level too, right? |
| 08:56.55 | Tekkub | and uhm, anything special I need to do to make FuBu use DewDrop for the plugin's menu? |
| 08:57.00 | Tekkub | cause I don't think it is... |
| 08:58.20 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 08:58.29 | Tekkub | maybe I'm passing the level wrong or something |
| 08:58.37 | ckknight | yes |
| 08:58.41 | Tekkub | I removed level on my base menu and it works |
| 08:58.43 | ckknight | but don't need to pass a level |
| 08:58.59 | ckknight | set fuCompatible to 102 |
| 08:59.02 | ckknight | that's it |
| 08:59.04 | Tekkub | but submenus aren't working now *looks at how FuBar's menu gets drawn* |
| 08:59.27 | Tekkub | well my old blizzy-wise code always passed level, even if it was level 1 |
| 08:59.39 | ckknight | just leave the level blank, don't worry about it |
| 08:59.48 | ckknight | it fills it in for you |
| 09:00.27 | Tekkub | I never have to pass level? *boggle* a menu that remembers the menu it's in! |
| 09:01.56 | Tekkub | that was one of the most retarded things in blizzy's implementation... |
| 09:02.10 | Tekkub | there's a goddamn global set to the level, why do I have to tell you??? |
| 09:02.22 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:02.29 | ckknight | I don't use globals, though |
| 09:02.33 | Tekkub | I know |
| 09:02.39 | ckknight | there is one global total for dewdrop |
| 09:02.41 | ckknight | DewdropLib |
| 09:02.42 | ckknight | that's it |
| 09:02.58 | ckknight | I could add the first frame for the esc thing |
| 09:04.34 | Tekkub | *shrug* you could hook the esc call and clear out on it also |
| 09:05.09 | ckknight | possible... |
| 09:05.15 | ckknight | probably what I'll do |
| 09:05.30 | Tekkub | oh and plugins using dewdrop are anchoring the tooltip odly |
| 09:05.41 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 09:06.05 | Tekkub | MM's was anchored fine till I switched it to DD and now it's all wonkey and off screen since the plugin in the far left one |
| 09:06.22 | Tekkub | it lookl like a "TOP" anchor to the center of the button |
| 09:06.41 | Tekkub | insead of a smart TOPLEF/TOPRIGHT to the BOTTOMLEFT/BOTTOMRIGHT |
| 09:07.24 | Tekkub | nix that, it looks lik TOPRIGHT of the tip to TOPRIGHT of the button, even on the far left side of the screen |
| 09:08.08 | ckknight | using the latest version? |
| 09:09.32 | [MoonWolf] | Jesus saves, Allah protects, Cthulu thinks you'd look nice on a sandwich. |
| 09:09.44 | Tekkub | I think so, unless you've comitted in the last 30 min |
| 09:09.47 | Tekkub | I'll update... |
| 09:10.33 | Tekkub | seems so, yes |
| 09:11.15 | Tekkub | and I see you slipping in "dewdrop:Close()" in some of your functions... why not define a property "closeWhenClicked" for line entries? |
| 09:11.29 | Tekkub | reverse of blizzy's "keep open" |
| 09:11.34 | Tekkub | :) |
| 09:12.16 | ckknight | just put the dewdrop:Close() in the function |
| 09:12.19 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:12.24 | ckknight | but closeWhenClicked could be handy |
| 09:12.26 | ckknight | adding... |
| 09:13.32 | Tekkub | ^^ |
| 09:16.43 | ckknight | oh, lol |
| 09:16.52 | ckknight | I did have the anchoring code, just not committed |
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| 09:17.38 | ckknight | whoops |
| 09:17.52 | Tekkub | :P |
| 09:18.14 | Tekkub | I think it's not trying to open menus beyond level 1 for ModMenu |
| 09:18.36 | Tekkub | This never even calls for level > 1 : |
| 09:18.37 | Tekkub | function FuBar_ModMenu:MenuSettings(level, value) |
| 09:18.37 | Tekkub | print("MenuSettings", level, value) |
| 09:18.40 | id` | Tem|Sleep: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1058.0.html |
| 09:19.27 | Tem|Sleep | honestly, I want nothing to do with visor |
| 09:19.38 | Tekkub | (burn) |
| 09:19.55 | Tem|Sleep | I'm not entirely sure why |
| 09:20.00 | Tem|Sleep | I just don't |
| 09:20.18 | id` | the comment was on the script a few days ago tho |
| 09:20.48 | Tem|Sleep | if certain points of my interface are annoying enough Visor + VisorGUI make it easy to move em |
| 09:20.53 | id` | that i ended up solving myself :P |
| 09:21.13 | id` | Tain: you around? |
| 09:21.14 | Tem|Sleep | but I don't even want to touch VisorActionButtons |
| 09:21.24 | id` | *shrug* just buttons |
| 09:21.33 | Tem|Sleep | I don't think Rowne completely understood action buttons when he wrote it |
| 09:21.47 | Tem|Sleep | now, I have no idea how much work tain has done on that part since then |
| 09:21.51 | id` | they are a bit weird yeah |
| 09:22.04 | id` | they still go to 50% when you drag an item |
| 09:22.09 | id` | (alpha) |
| 09:22.11 | Tem|Sleep | anyway, I'm really freackin tired |
| 09:22.15 | id` | nn |
| 09:22.26 | Tem|Sleep | s/c// |
| 09:22.37 | Tem|Sleep | later id` |
| 09:22.40 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r923 10Metrognome/Lib/MetrognomeLib.lua: MetrognomeLib - Added "Mass unregister" for that whiny bitch Neriak... takes up to 10 names. |
| 09:22.41 | id` | bye |
| 09:22.54 | id` | lol tek |
| 09:22.54 | id` | :> |
| 09:23.08 | Tekkub | it was a 10sec job :) |
| 09:25.10 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r924 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua FuBarPlugin.lua): |
| 09:25.10 | CIA-13 | FuBar - fixed some dropdown attach logic. |
| 09:25.10 | CIA-13 | Updated menu for dewdrop's closeWhenClicked |
| 09:26.25 | id` | ckknight: so what can you use dewdrop for |
| 09:26.40 | ckknight | dropdown menus |
| 09:27.16 | id` | oh right |
| 09:30.55 | Tekkub | boss: tooltip's still wonky... want some screenies? |
| 09:31.22 | Tekkub | and my submenus don't work in ModMenu >< |
| 09:31.45 | ckknight | don't need screenshots |
| 09:31.58 | ckknight | pastebin your code for ModeMenu |
| 09:32.01 | ckknight | ModMenu* |
| 09:36.12 | Tekkub | http://ace.pastebin.com/682600 |
| 09:36.17 | Tekkub | that's the base shit... |
| 09:36.38 | Tekkub | that print never happens for level > 1 at all |
| 09:37.42 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:37.45 | ckknight | theoretically should work |
| 09:38.11 | Tekkub | yarr, it never trys to draw any level deeper than 1 for all I can tell |
| 09:39.51 | Tekkub | oh and you need to tweak up the strata a tad, I have two bars at the top and the lower bar's button are on top of the menu |
| 09:41.04 | Tekkub | and uhm, I can't get highlight or click on like, any of the button is MM or Clock's menus most the time now... |
| 09:41.22 | ckknight | ...? |
| 09:45.01 | Tekkub | yarr |
| 09:45.11 | Tekkub | no clue, just started this last update |
| 09:45.21 | Tekkub | and what the fuck is taking him so long... |
| 09:45.41 | Tekkub | he's been gone for like an hour and a half |
| 09:46.24 | id` | you know what, never mind. |
| 09:48.19 | Tekkub | okey so you want to make a bar mod... what did you need me for? |
| 09:52.18 | id` | no |
| 09:52.19 | id` | nevermind |
| 09:52.21 | id` | i didnt ask you |
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| 09:52.43 | *** join/#wowace pfault (n=pagefaul@toronto-HSE-ppp4035403.sympatico.ca) |
| 09:53.50 | Tekkub | :P I have my own custom bar mod, have for months... don't see what you need from me.... |
| 09:54.21 | [MoonWolf] | input, ideas ? |
| 09:54.38 | Tekkub | stop thinking more implementing :P |
| 09:54.38 | [MoonWolf] | id`, dont forget to put in the kitchen sink. |
| 09:54.41 | id` | a "o hey cool, maybe you should" or something would be nice. ~~:| |
| 09:55.13 | Tekkub | :P just write the damn thing |
| 09:56.11 | [MoonWolf] | why did ms have to go and replace the cool monad name with something lame as PowerShell |
| 09:56.17 | [MoonWolf] | stupid marketing people. |
| 09:56.24 | ckknight | they changed Monad? |
| 09:56.27 | ckknight | what dicks |
| 09:56.51 | [MoonWolf] | its powershell now. |
| 09:57.36 | id` | whats powershell |
| 09:57.46 | [MoonWolf] | microsofts next generation shell |
| 09:57.59 | [MoonWolf] | to replace cmd with |
| 09:58.04 | [MoonWolf] | although it wont be in vista |
| 09:59.06 | Tekkub | fuck |
| 09:59.15 | Tekkub | Iriel's on WoWI now... DOOOOOOOOOOOMED! |
| 09:59.42 | [MoonWolf] | doomed , why ? |
| 10:00.34 | Tekkub | because... uhm... tacos? |
| 10:00.46 | [MoonWolf] | ofcourse! |
| 10:00.56 | Tekkub | BOSS! |
| 10:01.04 | Tekkub | Fix mah menyouzzzz |
| 10:03.20 | ckknight | no. |
| 10:03.22 | ckknight | busy. |
| 10:06.49 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r925 10FuBar_MailFu/ (. Core.lua): FuBar_MailFu - Metadata update for release |
| 10:07.57 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r926 10/tags/FuBar_MailFu/: FuBar_MailFu - Creating tag path |
| 10:08.30 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub 07v3 * r927 10FuBar_MailFu/: FuBar_MailFu (tags) - v3 |
| 10:11.11 | [MoonWolf] | brb mandatory windows update reboot |
| 10:14.48 | *** join/#wowace [MoonWolf] (n=MoonWolf@a80-127-128-193.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 10:14.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [MoonWolf]] by ChanServ |
| 10:19.01 | id` | [MoonWolf]: i had that too heh |
| 10:19.04 | id` | just nw |
| 10:19.05 | id` | now* |
| 10:19.11 | [MoonWolf] | yeah |
| 10:19.22 | [MoonWolf] | stupid updates requiring stupid reboot |
| 10:19.37 | [MoonWolf] | if only that nag screen would stay away if I tell it I want to shutdown later. |
| 10:19.45 | Tekkub | Tip: Don't bother installing updates if you never reboot :) |
| 10:20.14 | [MoonWolf] | I boot when I get somewhere, and I shutdown when I leave. |
| 10:20.15 | Tekkub | and before you say it, not a single one in 5 years |
| 10:20.35 | [MoonWolf] | so wake up go to work , boot laptop, shutdow laptop, get home boot pc, shudtown pc sleep. |
| 10:20.39 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 10:20.52 | Codayus | I seem to have got powdered jalapeno pepper inside my nose. |
| 10:21.01 | Codayus | Up in my sinuses. |
| 10:21.02 | Tekkub | I ran the same install of windows for like 4.5 years before I got me 64bit proc and switched to Win64 |
| 10:21.13 | [MoonWolf] | that has to be painfull Codayus |
| 10:21.14 | Codayus | You'd be surprised how much it burns if you haven't tried it. |
| 10:21.17 | Tekkub | and that was minimal reboots on that install too |
| 10:21.26 | Codayus | I wouldn't recommend it no. |
| 10:21.48 | Tekkub | You know what's fun? Snarting crushed up smarties or pixistix |
| 10:22.05 | Codayus | ....hmmm. |
| 10:22.08 | Tekkub | I recommend the green sticks first, the citrus packs a good punch |
| 10:22.08 | [MoonWolf] | eeeuh |
| 10:22.14 | Codayus | Never tried that. Don't think I will either. |
| 10:22.27 | [MoonWolf] | nope, neither will I |
| 10:22.35 | [MoonWolf] | I keep my nose strictly for smelling stuff. |
| 10:23.37 | id` | [MoonWolf]: hmm im really liking Haggard. do you know them? |
| 10:23.44 | [MoonWolf] | yes |
| 10:24.00 | Tekkub | but is is, smells like flavoured sugar! |
| 10:24.09 | Tekkub | and it gets you hyper faster |
| 10:24.21 | id` | Tekkub: it IS flavoured sugar |
| 10:24.25 | Tekkub | instantly hyper person with a burning nose == really fucking funny |
| 10:24.34 | [MoonWolf] | I dont like beying hyper, caffiene fucks me up. |
| 10:24.55 | [MoonWolf] | lukely I seem to be immune to sugar highs. |
| 10:25.06 | Tekkub | I'm immune to caffine, years of Dew |
| 10:25.09 | Codayus | I can't live without caffiene... |
| 10:25.11 | Codayus | Sugar...meh. |
| 10:25.20 | Tekkub | those super energy crap things just put me to sleep |
| 10:25.21 | Codayus | I drink diet energy drinks mainly. |
| 10:25.44 | id` | Tekkub: try red bull from aisia, the glass bottles of red bull |
| 10:25.45 | id` | ghe ghe |
| 10:25.55 | [MoonWolf] | I drink tea, or bullit (cheap red bull) if I really need to stay up. |
| 10:25.55 | id` | asia* |
| 10:26.10 | Codayus | Tea is good, if it's decent. |
| 10:26.17 | [MoonWolf] | I have good tea |
| 10:26.24 | Tekkub | I hate tea |
| 10:26.31 | [MoonWolf] | I have some many different tea flavors I can stare at it for half an hour before deciding. |
| 10:26.36 | Tekkub | teevee tiem! |
| 10:26.46 | id` | [MoonWolf]: this is horrible! somilar artist radio for lacrimosa pops up finntroll and even craddle of filth |
| 10:26.47 | Codayus | I'm pretty picky about tea. There's a lot of kinds I can't stand. |
| 10:27.05 | [MoonWolf] | have fun, yes that is a hint. |
| 10:27.21 | id` | TMI FYI TBH LOL |
| 10:27.23 | [MoonWolf] | well, I like all of those, but eeuh, not really related. |
| 10:27.33 | [MoonWolf] | TMI ? |
| 10:27.37 | id` | too much info |
| 10:28.08 | [MoonWolf] | you can put a IMHO in there too. |
| 10:28.23 | id` | TBH, To Be Honest |
| 10:28.50 | id` | IMHOTMIFYILOL |
| 10:29.09 | id` | or just ROFLMAOPINDAKAAS |
| 10:29.22 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 10:29.22 | Codayus | I like to add spice to tea. Usually keep a blend of cinnamon, cardamon, black pepper, and nutmeg around. Some good black tea, strongly brewed with some spices, and lots of sweetener and cream = good! |
| 10:29.27 | id` | i have a key bound to saying that in half life |
| 10:30.06 | Codayus | It's bears only a passing resemblance to what most people think of as tea, but what the hell, their loss. :-) |
| 10:30.11 | [MoonWolf] | I prefer lighter green tea, huny for sweetener. |
| 10:30.26 | Codayus | Meh, not really my style. |
| 10:30.50 | [MoonWolf] | you end up with something that looks like coffee from a distance I think. |
| 10:31.25 | Codayus | Yeah. Not as opaque, but then, it actually tastes good. |
| 10:31.58 | [MoonWolf] | I love monad/powershell |
| 10:32.55 | Codayus | I doo have some nice nice green tea from China. Rolled into tiny balls, and scented with jasmine. The vendor calls it "Dragon Phoenix Pearl", but I assume they're just making it up as they go along for marketing purposes. :-) |
| 10:33.05 | Codayus | I don't drink it much, but it is really nice. |
| 10:33.09 | [MoonWolf] | most likely |
| 10:33.33 | [MoonWolf] | I assume they call it, a ball of green jasmine scented tea in china. |
| 10:33.46 | Codayus | Could be. |
| 10:34.59 | [MoonWolf] | dragon phoenix does not make any sense to begin with anyway. |
| 10:35.13 | [MoonWolf] | that is like saying cat dog egg. |
| 10:36.17 | Codayus | Ah, well, there is a story behind it. Let me see... |
| 10:36.26 | Codayus | Ah, yeah, from their website: |
| 10:36.30 | Codayus | "Dragon Phoenix Pearl gets its name from the visual characteristics of the tea bushes climbing the hillsides like a Dragon coming out of the water. The women pickers, chosen specifically to pluck this type of tea, give the appearance of dancing phoenixes next to the Dragon's long slender body." |
| 10:36.42 | Codayus | So, yeah, take that for what its worth. :-) |
| 10:36.52 | [MoonWolf] | reads marketing to me. |
| 10:37.45 | [MoonWolf] | wow I did a help file lookup for a command in powerconsole |
| 10:37.59 | [MoonWolf] | and got a command references and 3 pages of explained commands |
| 10:38.03 | [MoonWolf] | take that man |
| 10:38.05 | Codayus | <shrug> Somewhat perhaps. The vendors are good sorts, and really "into" the whole tea thing. |
| 10:38.11 | Codayus | powerconsole? |
| 10:38.15 | [MoonWolf] | man as in *nix manual command. |
| 10:45.06 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r928 10FuBar_AmmoFu/AmmoFu.lua: FuBar_AmmoFu - Updated for 1.1 |
| 10:45.15 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r929 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFu.lua: FuBar_BagFu - Updated for 1.1 |
| 10:45.41 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r930 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFu.lua: FuBar_ClockFu - not much |
| 10:45.54 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r931 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFu.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu - Updated for 1.1 |
| 10:46.06 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r932 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - Updated for 1.1 |
| 10:46.21 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r933 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: FuBar_LocationFu - Updated for 1.1 |
| 10:46.33 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r934 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/MicroMenuFu.lua: FuBar_MicroMenuFu - Updated for 1.1 |
| 10:46.50 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r935 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: FuBar_MoneyFu - Updated for 1.1 |
| 10:47.03 | [MoonWolf] | push those revision numbers baby, yeah! |
| 10:47.05 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r936 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - Updated for 1.1 |
| 10:47.20 | ckknight | spamtastic |
| 10:47.20 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r937 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua: FuBar_TopScoreFu - Updated for 1.1 |
| 10:47.44 | ckknight | that's it for now |
| 10:47.48 | [MoonWolf] | ooh |
| 10:47.55 | [MoonWolf] | 11 updates |
| 10:48.08 | [MoonWolf] | wowi new addons list is going to be filled again. |
| 10:49.36 | Codayus | zomg, spam? |
| 10:49.37 | Codayus | :-) |
| 10:49.43 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r938 10DewdropLib/ (API.html Lib/DewdropLib.lua): DewdropLib - added closeWhenClicked. |
| 10:50.17 | ckknight | [MoonWolf], I need to get rid of all the glaring bugs first |
| 10:50.31 | [MoonWolf] | details1 |
| 10:50.43 | Elkano | ckknight, for the SW-IF train the event fires, so I'll have to further invesigate :/ |
| 10:50.47 | [MoonWolf] | s\1\!\ |
| 10:51.02 | [MoonWolf] | damn you slashes, damn you !!! |
| 10:51.13 | ckknight | Elkano, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about |
| 10:51.28 | ckknight | btw, Tekkub, found the bug |
| 10:52.23 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r939 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - Now handles multiple menu levels properly. |
| 10:55.02 | [MoonWolf] | yay boss dude is gone |
| 10:58.07 | Elkano | ck we had been talking about honorfu not opening the bg minimap. I said that maybe it doesn't get the event so I would try out by adding debug output and using the instance gate to the train |
| 10:59.11 | Elkano | (sorry for not giving added this top there... I tend to forget doing so when into sth :( ) |
| 11:03.47 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r940 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - properly positions tooltips now. |
| 11:04.18 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r941 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed anchoring bug. |
| 11:04.46 | ckknight | Elkano, alright |
| 11:05.41 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r942 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - removed debug line. |
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| 11:24.29 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r943 10DewdropLib/ (API.html Lib/DewdropLib.lua): DewdropLib - added IsOpen(parent) |
| 11:34.36 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r944 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - hooks the OnMouseWheel parent script, allowing for scrolling. |
| 11:34.54 | *** join/#wowace Firedancer (n=Miranda@cpe-24-58-108-74.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 11:37.08 | ckknight | I think I'm ready to publish... |
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| 11:39.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 11:43.40 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r945 10Necronomicon/ (5 files): |
| 11:43.40 | CIA-13 | Necronomicon: Added German translation (Health Funnel and Demonic Sacrifice missing). |
| 11:43.40 | CIA-13 | - Cleaned up the localization files some more. |
| 11:43.40 | CIA-13 | - Fixed Fel Domination modifier key to work again. |
| 11:43.40 | CIA-13 | - Added Curse of Tongues to the spelltimerlist. |
| 11:43.41 | CIA-13 | - Added checking for spell resisted and immune. |
| 11:53.14 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r946 10Necronomicon/ (NecronomiconLocals.lua NecronomiconLocals_frFR.lua): Updated version to 0.5 |
| 11:53.21 | [Ammo] | argh, forgot to add Necronomicon: in the commit |
| 11:53.22 | [Ammo] | ooops |
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| 11:55.18 | [Ammo] | Elkano, you're german! |
| 11:55.20 | [Ammo] | I need help |
| 11:55.36 | [Ammo] | I need the exact german translation for the Health Funnel spell and Demonic Sacrifice :) |
| 11:56.32 | Elkano^wtf | hmm... |
| 11:57.31 | [Ammo] | it's the only 2 translations I'm missing |
| 11:57.53 | [Ammo] | and there is no german thottbot to look em up is there? |
| 12:00.20 | Elkano^wtf | well, that's what I'm looking for atm since I don't play a warlock |
| 12:02.34 | Elkano^wtf | Health Funnel = Gesundheitstrichter |
| 12:02.44 | Elkano^wtf | Demonic Sacrifice is a talent, isn't it? |
| 12:02.53 | [Ammo] | yeah |
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| 12:03.25 | CIA-13 | 03kaelten * r947 10KC_Items/common/math.lua: KC_Items; More math bugs squished, I hope. |
| 12:03.55 | Elkano^wtf | then I'll look up in the talent calculator |
| 12:04.07 | [Ammo] | cool |
| 12:04.44 | Elkano^wtf | Dämonenopferung |
| 12:05.05 | [Ammo] | now to find the correct \195 etc for the a |
| 12:05.07 | [Ammo] | thanks |
| 12:05.24 | Elkano^wtf | ä = \195\164 |
| 12:06.13 | [Ammo] | yeah I found it |
| 12:07.23 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r948 10Necronomicon/NecronomiconLocals_deDE.lua: Necronomicon: Added german translation for Health Funnel and Demonic Sacrifice |
| 12:07.26 | [Ammo] | and committed :) |
| 12:07.51 | otravi | [Ammo]: I hate to say this but: wowguru is your friend :< |
| 12:07.55 | otravi | when you need talent/spells |
| 12:07.58 | [Ammo] | oh wowguru has those names? |
| 12:08.06 | [Ammo] | I didn't know |
| 12:08.07 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 12:08.11 | [Ammo] | I only needed 2 though |
| 12:08.11 | otravi | allakhazam has it for most items |
| 12:08.18 | [Ammo] | I got the rest from other mods |
| 12:11.03 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r949 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: |
| 12:11.03 | CIA-13 | TabletLib - Better handling of sliders. |
| 12:11.03 | CIA-13 | Better positioning of dropdown menu on detached tablet. |
| 12:11.58 | ckknight | [Ammo], why not use BabbleLib for spell translations? |
| 12:12.16 | ckknight | it has all of enUS, frFR, deDE, and zhCN |
| 12:12.39 | [Ammo] | Babblelib is 250kb of bloat |
| 12:12.47 | [Ammo] | no thanks |
| 12:12.49 | ckknight | alright |
| 12:12.58 | [Ammo] | I just need a few translations |
| 12:14.59 | [Ammo] | the problem is distributing babblelib with each download etc, if it was just another mod that people just have and a dependancy thus instead of such an embedded lib |
| 12:15.13 | [MoonWolf] | babblelib is nice if you use it a lot |
| 12:15.25 | [MoonWolf] | if you need a string or 15 ... not worth it IMHO |
| 12:15.26 | [Ammo] | I have maybe 30 localized strings |
| 12:16.02 | [Ammo] | it may be worth it as a dependancy, but not embedded |
| 12:16.52 | Tain | (I have no opinion on the matter either way but...) It's entirely humorous to me to watch different people argue the exact same points as their opinions why something should either be an embedded lib or a standalone dependancy. |
| 12:17.11 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 12:17.20 | [MoonWolf] | I have the same points if babblelib would be standalone |
| 12:17.31 | [MoonWolf] | 250 kb... for a handfull of strings |
| 12:17.37 | [MoonWolf] | not going to happen in my book. |
| 12:18.18 | [MoonWolf] | (althoug it makes for a good place to get localisation strings from) |
| 12:18.20 | Tain | Embedded lib is the new hotness. It's good for some things, not necessarily others. Yet lots of people are jumping on with every thing they write. |
| 12:18.40 | Tain | And I'm not saying Babble shouldnt' be. I don't have an opinion either- way on it specifically. |
| 12:18.54 | Tain | I just like watching the overall swing of addons. |
| 12:19.40 | Tain | In a couple of months someone will think of some other new technique of doing something and everyone will jump in using it as well, whether it's the best solution or not. |
| 12:19.42 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r950 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - fixed slider issues with other buttons. |
| 12:20.01 | ckknight | Tain, too true |
| 12:20.33 | ckknight | either way, I only have 4 FuBar specific sections instead of a whole lot more |
| 12:20.39 | ckknight | libraries are pretty cool |
| 12:21.17 | Tain | Which isn't a condemnation on my part, even if it sounds like it. I firmly believe the #1 reason for writing an addon is because you're enjoying doing it, so however you write it is a good thing if you're learning something. |
| 12:21.44 | ckknight | I think also 1.10's CreateFrame does help libraries which need events and such |
| 12:22.56 | Tain | That's why although I understand why some people get all pissy when someone writes a new addon that does the same thing as an existing addon, or two different people work on similar libraries, or something like that... I still say screw 'em. |
| 12:23.49 | otravi | I don't see how you can write an addon, and not enjoy it :o |
| 12:24.07 | Tain | If someone wants to reinvent the wheel from ground up just because they want to do it, then that's the only justification needed. |
| 12:25.11 | Tain | Yeah anyway, random rant of the morning I guess. |
| 12:25.14 | otravi | It's basicly what I'm doing with oRA :D |
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| 12:31.47 | [MoonWolf] | Tain, random ranting ftw |
| 12:31.59 | [MoonWolf] | why cant teachers install beamers themselves |
| 12:32.09 | [MoonWolf] | its not hard, powercable there laptop powercable there |
| 12:32.21 | [MoonWolf] | put the one connector on the right laptop port |
| 12:32.30 | [MoonWolf] | adjust lenses |
| 12:32.31 | [MoonWolf] | done. |
| 12:32.37 | ckknight | beamers? |
| 12:33.20 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r951 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed data saving of detached tablets. |
| 12:33.32 | Tain | I'm guessing projector. |
| 12:34.44 | [MoonWolf] | yeah |
| 12:34.47 | [MoonWolf] | projector things |
| 12:34.51 | [MoonWolf] | we call them beamers here |
| 12:35.02 | Elkano | we do too |
| 12:35.07 | otravi | "Prosjektor" in norway |
| 12:35.07 | [MoonWolf] | since that sounded like an english word... I figured you would know them by the same name... |
| 12:35.42 | [MoonWolf] | http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/images/models/ptae900u.jpg <- these things. |
| 12:35.46 | Elkano | well, ask them what a handy is ;) |
| 12:36.18 | [MoonWolf] | a handy ? .... not a clue. |
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| 12:38.25 | Elkano | well, the 'german' word for cell phones |
| 12:38.40 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 12:38.53 | [MoonWolf] | well, if you know that its pretty logical. |
| 12:39.26 | [Ammo] | handy or mobi right? |
| 12:45.39 | id` | Tain: ah-ha! |
| 12:45.45 | id` | Tain: you are here. k. |
| 12:45.50 | Tain | ehn |
| 12:46.07 | id` | Tain: Got anything planned for the next visor release? if not i got one thing thats been bugging me for a long time |
| 12:46.17 | id` | the buttons go to 50% or so alpha when you drag something |
| 12:47.20 | Tain | Yeah. I'm pretty sick of Visor at the moment. I may get excited about it again in a couple weeks or so. Or I might not. |
| 12:47.50 | id` | i see |
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| 12:48.29 | Tain | I wouldn't be disappointed if someone else jumped on it of course. |
| 12:48.50 | [MoonWolf] | Visor: WHY Rowne WHYYYY! |
| 12:49.29 | id` | [MoonWolf]: it as my fault cause i asked rowne to include it :> |
| 12:50.26 | [MoonWolf] | hehe |
| 13:05.32 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r952 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - escape now closes menu. |
| 13:20.30 | Tekkub | is Bossman awake? |
| 13:21.16 | [MoonWolf] | last thing he did was 15 mins ago |
| 13:21.19 | [MoonWolf] | so I assume not |
| 13:21.30 | [MoonWolf] | ckknight, are ya here ? |
| 13:21.36 | ckknight | yea |
| 13:21.58 | ckknight | gonna upload all of 14 different mods to WoWI |
| 13:22.01 | id` | Tekkub: well whaddaya know, hes here! |
| 13:22.06 | Tekkub | http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/2162/buggybugbug2pu.jpg |
| 13:22.18 | Tekkub | can you spot the two bugs? |
| 13:23.10 | ckknight | hrm, goes up above GetScreenHeight() |
| 13:23.27 | Tekkub | *ding* and? |
| 13:23.57 | ckknight | you need to set your name to "FuBar - ModMenu" instead of "FuBar_ModMenu" |
| 13:24.06 | Tekkub | wrong try again |
| 13:24.35 | ckknight | I can't set frames to be toplevel, if that's what you're reaching for |
| 13:25.07 | Tekkub | well at least higher than Fu's buttons |
| 13:25.31 | Tekkub | it's quite annoying when ya gots two panels up top and you open a menu on the top one |
| 13:26.13 | Firedancer | tek...posted a bug on your wowi portal. you have the wrong path defined in Core.lua for your fubar mail plugin. I noticed when I opened it to change the images. |
| 13:26.29 | Tekkub | already fixed :P |
| 13:26.33 | ckknight | oh, I know the other bug |
| 13:26.34 | Firedancer | okie |
| 13:26.35 | ckknight | yo're a Gnome. |
| 13:26.39 | ckknight | you're* |
| 13:26.46 | Tekkub | see? |
| 13:26.51 | Tekkub | ... |
| 13:27.07 | CIA-13 | 03tekkub * r953 10FuBar_MailFu/Core.lua: FuBar_MailFu - Fixed sound path |
| 13:27.08 | Tekkub | see? |
| 13:27.42 | Firedancer | sorry. posted it a couple hours ago when I saw it was uploaded to wowi. didn't bother checking the svn cause I fixed it myself :D |
| 13:28.47 | Tekkub | anywho, reattempt at bed... You should tweak the menu's levels bossman :P |
| 13:30.26 | ckknight | honestly, I don't know, Tekkub |
| 13:30.40 | ckknight | how do I make it display above the textures and fontstrings? |
| 13:31.58 | Elkano | raise it's framelevel? |
| 13:32.53 | ckknight | no luck, Elkano |
| 13:45.19 | Elkano | hm :/ |
| 13:45.29 | Elkano | well, got2go... l8ers... |
| 13:52.52 | Tain | Morning Cairenn |
| 13:53.01 | Cairenn | morning Tain |
| 13:54.41 | [MoonWolf] | morning. |
| 13:55.09 | Cairenn | hey [MoonWolf] |
| 13:56.15 | [MoonWolf] | congratulations on bringing in iriel... |
| 13:56.30 | Cairenn | Rarr!! |
| 13:56.40 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 13:57.09 | [MoonWolf] | :P |
| 13:57.19 | Cairenn | what? |
| 13:57.42 | [MoonWolf] | :P is a smily that indicates me hanging my tongue out of the corner of my mouth.... |
| 13:57.47 | [MoonWolf] | general sillyness. |
| 13:58.04 | Cairenn | yeah yeah, I knew that, was just wondering *why* you were sticking your tongue out at me |
| 13:58.20 | [MoonWolf] | because I that smily |
| 13:58.28 | [MoonWolf] | its silly, I fell silly.... |
| 13:58.30 | [MoonWolf] | feel* |
| 13:58.44 | Tain | Silly is as silly does. |
| 13:58.48 | Cairenn | good enough reason :) |
| 13:59.49 | Cairenn | sorry, I'm just *REALLY* excited to have him on board |
| 14:00.02 | [MoonWolf] | you have every right to be. |
| 14:00.08 | Cairenn | mostly because I'm just *REALLY* excited to have him on board |
| 14:00.29 | Cairenn | but a little teeny tiny part is because it's a major slap in the face to the other sites |
| 14:00.31 | [MoonWolf] | its not everyday that you get one of the most respected addon coding talents on your moderation team. |
| 14:01.00 | Tain | Sure I but I wasn't asked! Oh respected... right. |
| 14:01.20 | [MoonWolf] | hehe |
| 14:01.25 | Cairenn | guys, you lot are the others I would consider ... |
| 14:01.33 | Tain | Definitely a big bonus for the site. |
| 14:02.01 | Cairenn | the "problem" is ... well, too many from the "ace" crew, and it looks like major favoritism |
| 14:02.17 | Tain | There's also the fact that some of us lack what they call the people skills. ;) |
| 14:02.17 | [MoonWolf] | well, you already are the unoficial place ace authors host thier addons and you already have the ace "owner" on board. |
| 14:02.30 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 14:02.36 | [MoonWolf] | and the hoster... |
| 14:02.49 | Tain | Cairenn runs a hostel now? |
| 14:02.52 | Tain | Oh hoster. Sorry. |
| 14:03.01 | [MoonWolf] | although you also host ct so that is slightly cancelled out. |
| 14:03.04 | Cairenn | but looking around for who I'd want to have on the team, and, well, I can't help but to look at this channel |
| 14:03.45 | Tain | It's because we periodically relese psychotropic drugs into the air in here, it confuses those who enter. |
| 14:03.54 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:04.05 | [MoonWolf] | eeeuh, this channel is the epitome of geeky half the time we discuss weird stuff and the other half we discuss code..... |
| 14:04.14 | Tain | I saw a bottle of the new Coca Cola with coffee in it. |
| 14:04.19 | Tain | I'm just not sure about that. |
| 14:04.40 | Cairenn | [MoonWolf]: doesn't change the fact that you guys are who I trust, admire & respect |
| 14:04.46 | [MoonWolf] | finally they picked up on the caffienated drinks ? took them long enough. |
| 14:05.00 | [MoonWolf] | thats nice to hear Cairenn. |
| 14:05.00 | Cairenn | all qualities that are required in order to be part of the team |
| 14:05.19 | Tain | Well Coke has always had a decent amount of caffiene, I don't know how much more they've added with this. |
| 14:05.51 | Tain | Speaking of geeky, this is one of the best links I've come across in a long, long time. 450+ freeware applications for common problems. |
| 14:05.52 | Tain | http://www.econsultant.com/i-want-freeware-utilities/index.html |
| 14:06.16 | [MoonWolf] | why cant those sites ever have decent layouts..... |
| 14:06.19 | [MoonWolf] | it boggles the mind. |
| 14:07.00 | Tain | And another for open source links. http://www.econsultant.com/i-want-open-source-software/index.html |
| 14:07.24 | [MoonWolf] | check entry 61 |
| 14:07.33 | Cairenn | ewww, I see what you mean about layout, [MoonWolf] |
| 14:07.58 | [MoonWolf] | every for last entry in every list for that matter. |
| 14:17.43 | *** join/#wowace Eraphine|Lab (n=Eraphine@brenna.human.cornell.edu) |
| 14:25.02 | Cairenn | Tain: I'm teasing |
| 14:25.24 | [MoonWolf] | Cairenn and just think, this is the way I treat my friends .... can you imagine the way I treat those I don't like? <- he is called zeeg and hangs in your channel regulary |
| 14:25.42 | Cairenn | yeah, and notice that I *don't* tease him? |
| 14:25.57 | Cairenn | that I, in fact, avoid speaking to him as much as possible? |
| 14:26.10 | [MoonWolf] | yeah |
| 14:26.30 | Cairenn | I only tease those I like, that I feel comfortable with |
| 14:26.30 | [MoonWolf] | but I think that doesnt bother him at all. |
| 14:29.15 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r954 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - fixed IsOpen(parent) |
| 14:29.33 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r955 10FuBar/ (FuBar.lua PanelClass.lua): FuBar - fixed FrameStratas |
| 14:32.37 | Tain | I go off to the men's room and miss all the fun. :) |
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| 14:35.12 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r956 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - Raised framelevel |
| 14:35.34 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r957 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - fixed framelevel |
| 14:41.55 | Cairenn|afk | ckknight: any others going up besides tablet and dewdrop? |
| 14:42.00 | ckknight | like 12 more |
| 14:42.20 | Cairenn|afk | lol, okay, I'll boot up the system when I get over to my mom's |
| 14:42.28 | Cairenn|afk | you should have most of them uploaded by then |
| 14:42.51 | ckknight | yea |
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| 14:50.35 | CIA-13 | 03ammo * r958 10Necronomicon/Necronomicon.lua: Necronomicon: Fixed a bug making Soulstone Aborted message actually work now. |
| 14:52.21 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: BatFu is ready to go; think I should convert to DDrop/TabletLib before releasing? |
| 14:52.30 | ckknight | nah |
| 14:52.32 | ckknight | release 1.0 |
| 14:52.35 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 14:52.37 | ckknight | then convert when you're ready |
| 14:52.46 | hyperChipmunk | didn't know if it was a quick thing or what |
| 14:52.50 | hyperChipmunk | alright Cairenn |
| 14:54.35 | ckknight | just so you know, expect the 1.1 cycle to have an unstable API |
| 14:56.47 | ckknight | just want to give you fair warning |
| 14:56.55 | ckknight | I'll always tell you in advance what I change though |
| 14:57.01 | ckknight | so it shouldn't be that big of a deal |
| 14:58.06 | hyperChipmunk | yea, I've never had problems following api part of it |
| 14:58.14 | hyperChipmunk | I'm okay with that |
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| 15:01.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 15:01.51 | ckknight | I releize I need a 1.2 ExampleFu and such |
| 15:02.08 | ckknight | and I copied the API.html into two parts as well |
| 15:03.04 | CIA-13 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r959 10GloryLib/Lib/GloryLib.lua: |
| 15:03.04 | CIA-13 | GloryLib: |
| 15:03.04 | CIA-13 | - "Time to capture" duration increased by 2.5 seconds to account for the 0-5 second variance in the actual duration |
| 15:05.40 | CIA-13 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r960 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/ (BattlegroundFu.lua CHANGELOG): |
| 15:05.40 | CIA-13 | BattlegroundFu: |
| 15:05.40 | CIA-13 | - (Re-)Release stuff |
| 15:09.18 | hyperChipmunk | how are you releasing libraries with the zips? i.e. should glorylib.lua be in the FuBar_BattlegroundFu directory or a FuBar_BattlegroundFu/GloryLib directory...or something else? |
| 15:16.32 | ckknight | in the FuBar_BattlegroundFu/GloryLib folder |
| 15:16.36 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 15:18.31 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r961 10FuBar/ (16 files in 4 dirs): FuBar - split up API.html and FuBar_ExampleFu into 1.0 and 1.2 parts. |
| 15:20.54 | hyperChipmunk | Cairenn: I'm ready to roll |
| 15:22.36 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: okay, moving it out ... |
| 15:23.24 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: okay, it's accessible again |
| 15:23.26 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 15:26.08 | hyperChipmunk | line 503, LocationFu.lua |
| 15:26.19 | hyperChipmunk | capitalize the C in AddCategory, I think |
| 15:31.48 | Cairenn | hyperChipmunk: approved |
| 15:31.58 | Cairenn | ckknight: approving just about as fast as you upload |
| 15:32.04 | ckknight | lol |
| 15:32.05 | ckknight | okay |
| 15:32.39 | hyperChipmunk | Cairenn: <3 |
| 15:32.47 | Cairenn | :) |
| 15:34.24 | hyperChipmunk | ~chippersnack Cairenn |
| 15:34.26 | purl | ACTION feeds Cairenn some nuts. |
| 15:34.31 | ckknight | that's it for now |
| 15:34.32 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 15:34.43 | Cairenn | ckknight: done |
| 15:34.44 | ckknight | I forgot ExperienceFu, so I'm doing that now |
| 15:34.48 | Cairenn | okay |
| 15:34.49 | hyperChipmunk | =P my g/f put that in |
| 15:34.52 | ckknight | (not uploading) |
| 15:35.22 | Cairenn | ckknight: okay |
| 15:45.31 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, the information waterfall you can set in the category tooltip is _very_ handy |
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| 15:47.30 | hyperChipmunk | oh? |
| 15:48.00 | [MoonWolf] | cairenn has a plit persona now ? |
| 15:48.35 | Cairenn | heh |
| 15:48.55 | Cairenn | I leave my system logged on at home, but I'm currently over at my mom's |
| 15:49.07 | [MoonWolf] | aha |
| 15:49.09 | Cairenn | I tend to spend my afternoon's with her, keep her company |
| 15:49.17 | [MoonWolf] | thats nice. |
| 15:49.19 | Cairenn | s/'s/s/ |
| 15:49.43 | Cairenn | she gets lonely |
| 15:51.07 | [MoonWolf] | what about your father ? |
| 15:51.16 | Cairenn | he's at work |
| 15:51.29 | Cairenn | few more months before he retires |
| 15:51.39 | Cairenn | he kinda counts on me to help keep her company |
| 15:51.53 | [MoonWolf] | aha |
| 15:52.17 | [MoonWolf] | i was afraid your father was in one way or another incapable of keeping her company. |
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| 15:52.32 | [MoonWolf] | damn you ctr-w |
| 15:52.42 | [MoonWolf] | ctrl* |
| 15:53.32 | Cairenn | naw, nothing like that, thank goodness |
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| 15:54.05 | [MoonWolf] | :D |
| 16:00.02 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r962 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ExperienceFu.lua: FuBar_ExperienceFu - updated for 1.1 |
| 16:00.46 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r963 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - updated merging process for 1.1, also makes unmerging cause the child to show in an independant state. |
| 16:04.48 | ckknight | uploaded, Cairenn |
| 16:06.00 | Cairenn | approved |
| 16:06.03 | otravi | note to self: NEVER take out another button of this keyboard... |
| 16:06.23 | otravi | I just used 25min to get it back in place, and it basicly... well, isn't as functional as before |
| 16:08.02 | ckknight | *sigH* didn't quite conquer New & Improved |
| 16:08.04 | ckknight | got 13/15, though |
| 16:08.06 | ckknight | so not badd |
| 16:08.08 | ckknight | bad* |
| 16:08.44 | ckknight | wait, that' 18/20 |
| 16:08.45 | ckknight | hrm |
| 16:09.43 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:12.08 | ckknight | ... |
| 16:12.12 | ckknight | ~comfort otravi |
| 16:12.13 | purl | There, there, otravi. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 16:12.22 | ckknight | see, purl's there for you |
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| 16:12.43 | otravi | yay |
| 16:12.49 | otravi | but I can't change desktops now.. |
| 16:12.55 | otravi | or not as easy as before |
| 16:13.00 | otravi | since my alt key is fubar |
| 16:13.22 | otravi | oh, it's going to be a pain to use irssi also now :( |
| 16:13.40 | hyperChipmunk | my alt key never worked in irssi anyways =P |
| 16:13.50 | hyperChipmunk | use Esc =P |
| 16:15.51 | hyperChipmunk | TabletLib\Lib\TabletLib.lua:1751: You cannot set title in a category |
| 16:16.03 | hyperChipmunk | HonorFu.lua:740: attempt to call method `GetAtathiBasinWins' (a nil value) |
| 16:16.05 | hyperChipmunk | keke |
| 16:16.07 | hyperChipmunk | Atathi |
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| 16:17.21 | otravi | that was rather painfull |
| 16:17.47 | otravi | but.. that doesn't solved the desktop issue! |
| 16:17.57 | otravi | since I can't use ESC there :( |
| 16:19.51 | Neronix | afternoon |
| 16:19.54 | otravi | hello |
| 16:20.21 | ckknight | hey Neronix |
| 16:20.30 | ckknight | crap. |
| 16:20.40 | ckknight | gotta fix that before people bitch |
| 16:20.41 | Cairenn | ummm, ckknight? |
| 16:20.47 | Cairenn | another one for you |
| 16:20.53 | ckknight | hit me |
| 16:21.41 | Cairenn | locationfu.lua.503:attempt to call method 'addcategory' (a nil value) |
| 16:21.57 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r964 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - Atathi -> Arathi |
| 16:22.47 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r965 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: FuBAr_LocationFu - Addcategory -> AddCategory |
| 16:22.54 | ckknight | I hadn't caught that cause I was only lvl 2 |
| 16:23.01 | ckknight | okay |
| 16:23.03 | ckknight | gonna upload those |
| 16:23.56 | Cairenn | k |
| 16:24.25 | Neronix | Sweet merciful jesus |
| 16:24.31 | Neronix | C'thun is dead :O |
| 16:24.35 | ckknight | yep |
| 16:24.38 | ckknight | twice, afaik |
| 16:24.47 | Neronix | another guild did it too? |
| 16:25.12 | [Ammo] | Nihilum and millenium(fr) |
| 16:25.16 | otravi | OMG! |
| 16:25.19 | otravi | I managed to fix it! |
| 16:25.32 | otravi | I can code again :D |
| 16:25.52 | ckknight | done, Cairenn |
| 16:25.58 | ckknight | yay, otravi |
| 16:25.59 | Cairenn | yup, already approved |
| 16:26.03 | Neronix | [Ammo]: I see, thanks |
| 16:26.05 | ckknight | good stuff |
| 16:26.22 | Cairenn | about to test, 2 sec |
| 16:26.30 | Cairenn | well, the loc one at least |
| 16:27.11 | ckknight | yea |
| 16:27.20 | ckknight | I didn't catch those two cause my char was too low level |
| 16:27.24 | ckknight | the others should be fine |
| 16:27.26 | Cairenn | ckknight: okay, no error when I scrolled over the loc this time |
| 16:27.42 | ckknight | also, the merging/unmerging should please weab now. |
| 16:28.51 | ckknight | ~pat otravi |
| 16:28.52 | purl | ACTION pats otravi and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 16:29.09 | otravi | I'm never removing a key from a laptop keyboard again :o |
| 16:29.21 | ckknight | you deserve a cookie |
| 16:29.31 | ckknight | otravi gains Feed Pet effect. |
| 16:30.31 | otravi | :-P |
| 16:30.56 | ckknight | Feed Pet effect fades from otravi |
| 16:32.06 | Ratbert_CP | Anyone up for a Timex v. Metrognome question? |
| 16:32.40 | otravi | Metrognome == OnUpdate replacement, Timex == Chronos replacement. -Tekkub |
| 16:32.46 | otravi | good enough :-D ? |
| 16:32.58 | Ratbert_CP | Right, I know that. I have a more... practical question. |
| 16:33.26 | ckknight | alright |
| 16:34.30 | Ratbert_CP | I have two places where I need a one-time, short frequency timer. i.e., I need a sub-second delay to allow AceGUI to gracefully build my multi-columned ScrollBox, and I need a 1-3 second timer after the loot frame closes to trash items. Is it better to depend on Timex, or embed Metro? |
| 16:35.00 | ckknight | I'd go with Metro |
| 16:35.16 | otravi | I agree |
| 16:35.19 | ckknight | for both cases |
| 16:37.54 | Ratbert_CP | OK, one more example: I want to put a small delay in after a SPECIAL_BAG_UPDATE event, that can be extended by another event (trying to cut down on scanning inventory). i.e., OnSBU, start a timer for 1 sec. if a timer already is running, bump it back to 1 sec. Once the timer expires, scan inventory. Which should keep mrplow from sending BagBoy into a tizzy... |
| 16:38.30 | ckknight | hrm |
| 16:38.30 | ckknight | okay |
| 16:38.30 | Ratbert_CP | And when is Tekkub going to embed SpecialEvents? ;) |
| 16:38.44 | ckknight | he already did |
| 16:38.51 | Ratbert_CP | Bastard... ;) |
| 16:38.51 | ckknight | I'm using SEEmbedKeys |
| 16:39.15 | Ratbert_CP | Is it in the svn? |
| 16:39.17 | ckknight | yea |
| 16:39.55 | Ratbert_CP | Hmmm... Must grab it... |
| 16:41.04 | otravi | aah, so much fun with alts |
| 16:41.15 | otravi | a L?? ganks me while I have two mobs on me, then he spits on me :p |
| 16:44.56 | Neronix | Thats' why I'm on a pve server :P |
| 16:46.51 | otravi | I have no problem with the ganking itself, I just find it funny that he actually spits on me :p |
| 16:48.41 | Ratbert_CP | I had to laugh at a rogue who thought he was ganking me. But the moron took time to dance at me while he had me stunned. As soon as it broke, I beat him down... |
| 16:49.11 | Ratbert_CP | Even rogues have trouble with warriors who are 15 levels above them... |
| 16:49.12 | Ratbert_CP | :) |
| 16:50.16 | Ratbert_CP | OK, looking at the Metrognome code, I really think I'm better off with Timex. The timers I need are single-shot, not repeating. |
| 16:50.29 | otravi | I remember a L21 warrior two hitted my L23 rogue :p |
| 16:51.47 | Ratbert_CP | Hmm... My toc now is only 1/3rd BagBoy, the rest is PTEmbeded and SEEmbeded... :) |
| 16:52.20 | Tain | Ratbert_CP you may be better off just coding a single delay yourself then in an onupdate. |
| 16:52.48 | Tain | Or something. I think I had a thought there but I'm not sure where it went. |
| 16:53.23 | Ratbert_CP | Wait a minute... I only need SEEmbeded/Bags... I only need to load the one lua file, right? |
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| 17:04.28 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r966 10DewdropLib/ (API.html Lib/DewdropLib.lua): DewdropLib - added isRadio, thusly adding support for radio buttons. |
| 17:09.22 | Eraphine|Lab | Can someone please explain to me the mechanics of the PRT frame? |
| 17:09.29 | Eraphine|Lab | I don't quite understand what is represented there |
| 17:09.57 | Eraphine|Lab | What is the Tanks(0) an indicator of? It doesn't seem to be corellated with warriors |
| 17:10.27 | otravi | how many tanks it has grabbed from CTRA/oRA |
| 17:11.19 | Eraphine|Lab | mt's? |
| 17:11.48 | Eraphine|Lab | I also don't understand why the window is so wide |
| 17:12.30 | Eraphine|Lab | is there any documentation? |
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| 17:13.15 | Tain | Docs? Docs? We don't need no stinkin' docs! |
| 17:13.23 | ckknight | docs are important |
| 17:13.38 | otravi | Eraphine|Lab: maybe you should update your PRT :) |
| 17:13.57 | Eraphine|Lab | I was using the one from the svn yesterday |
| 17:14.05 | otravi | (if he hasn't added the Tanks again) |
| 17:14.52 | Eraphine|Lab | should I use lucen's branch ? |
| 17:15.13 | Tem | lol ckknight |
| 17:15.21 | ckknight | ? |
| 17:15.27 | Tem | you took over wowi's updated thing |
| 17:15.41 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r967 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - changed radio button logic slightly |
| 17:15.50 | Lucen | eraphine, tekkub merged my changes from branch into trunk |
| 17:16.05 | Lucen | it was just remembering location |
| 17:16.10 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r968 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - added radio buttons to main menu. |
| 17:16.23 | otravi | Lucen: didn't you have a branch of PR also? |
| 17:16.28 | Lucen | yeah |
| 17:16.34 | otravi | What's changed in that :D ? |
| 17:16.57 | Lucen | inverse health bars, deficit health text, slash commands for both |
| 17:17.05 | Lucen | think that was it |
| 17:18.01 | Lucen | oh..key bindings |
| 17:18.10 | otravi | *leeches* |
| 17:18.11 | Eraphine|Lab | lucen, can you help me understand what PTR is showing? |
| 17:18.22 | Lucen | one to hide/show the frames, and one to flip class/group sorting |
| 17:18.37 | Lucen | hehe..not entirely eraphine |
| 17:18.43 | otravi | since you have added everything I was thinking about adding :p |
| 17:18.45 | Lucen | i'm still getting used to the colors |
| 17:19.12 | Eraphine|Lab | Is PRT supposed to show the targets of all members in the raid? |
| 17:19.16 | Lucen | all PRT show's is a list of targets your party/raid is targeting |
| 17:19.23 | Lucen | i think so, ya |
| 17:19.43 | Lucen | it prepopulates MT tanks if you have oRA and oRA_MainTanks |
| 17:20.23 | otravi | also CTRA :p |
| 17:20.42 | Eraphine|Lab | yeah - I didn't have oRA or oRA_MainTanks and it seemed to prepopulate |
| 17:20.45 | Lucen | doh..yeah..forgot it looks at CTRA too |
| 17:20.54 | Eraphine|Lab | also, why is the frame so wide |
| 17:21.02 | Eraphine|Lab | the space on the left looks wasted |
| 17:21.11 | Lucen | not sure |
| 17:21.12 | Tem | agreed |
| 17:21.26 | Lucen | i didn't look that far into it to be honest |
| 17:21.39 | Tem | tekkub just got lazy |
| 17:21.51 | Eraphine|Lab | overall I think it's an awesome idea |
| 17:22.05 | Lucen | i know it expands based on mob name targeted |
| 17:22.06 | Lucen | it just never shrinks |
| 17:26.33 | otravi | Lucen: try casting a heal trough a macro when you have the res monitor active :p |
| 17:26.56 | otravi | or maybe you have updated it! |
| 17:27.15 | otravi | I'm unable to see such easily now, since the svn update gets spamemd with: "Fetching external item into..." |
| 17:27.32 | Lucen | yeah..i updated it otravi |
| 17:27.45 | Lucen | i f'ed up the CastSpellByName hook |
| 17:27.51 | Lucen | first thing I found last night >.< |
| 17:28.05 | otravi | hehe |
| 18:02.40 | [MoonWolf] | All hail, all hail , all hail the serpentines KISS |
| 18:03.12 | [MoonWolf] | All hail, all hail , all hail, all hope lies in eclipse. |
| 18:07.06 | id` | How do i get the last element from a table? |
| 18:07.16 | id` | doubt its tbl[-1] |
| 18:07.18 | id` | :p |
| 18:07.47 | id` | tbl[getn(tbl)] ? |
| 18:08.06 | [MoonWolf] | tbl[getn(tbl)], or whatever lua uses as getn |
| 18:08.45 | id` | right was already getting the manual :> |
| 18:09.32 | id` | table.getn(tbl) |
| 18:09.33 | id` | :| |
| 18:09.42 | id` | tbl:getn() ? |
| 18:09.44 | id` | ke ke |
| 18:10.47 | [MoonWolf] | could be.... |
| 18:10.52 | [MoonWolf] | test it. |
| 18:10.53 | hyperChipmunk | I use tbl[table.getn(table)] |
| 18:11.00 | [MoonWolf] | yep |
| 18:11.04 | [MoonWolf] | like we speculated |
| 18:13.21 | id` | a={} a:getn() <-- wrong |
| 18:13.42 | id` | figures, tho.. |
| 18:14.02 | id` | im playing with synap's class example |
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| 18:20.46 | Shyva | Yow ^^ |
| 18:20.52 | otravi | hello |
| 18:21.08 | id` | llo |
| 18:21.21 | Shyva | only 225 places left in the queue :-| /bored |
| 18:24.48 | Elkano | ?? which queue? |
| 18:25.10 | Shyva | my realm.. |
| 18:28.31 | kergoth | id`: heh, you could write a function __index to support negative array indexes :) |
| 18:28.44 | [MoonWolf] | usefulll |
| 18:28.50 | [MoonWolf] | not really |
| 18:29.10 | kergoth | would only really be handy for people used to languages that allow it |
| 18:29.55 | [MoonWolf] | Neronix, merging your sfk changes to trunk. |
| 18:32.02 | id` | kergoth: yea like python |
| 18:32.03 | [MoonWolf] | nice of you to include localised names for them. |
| 18:32.06 | id` | i love that in python |
| 18:32.12 | id` | slices++ |
| 18:32.13 | id` | :p |
| 18:32.51 | id` | kergoth: this stuff is fun! http://pastebin.com/683506 |
| 18:33.08 | id` | kergoth: (im assuming http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1306.0.html is correct) |
| 18:34.02 | [MoonWolf] | come on CIA-13 |
| 18:38.14 | [MoonWolf] | CIA-13, is being slow. |
| 18:39.03 | id` | kergoth: uh, you there? :p |
| 18:40.35 | Elkano | moonwolf, whoát did you add today to mandeleev? :) |
| 18:41.03 | [MoonWolf] | merged neronix his Shadowfang keep changes onto mendeleev |
| 18:41.29 | Elkano | what do they do? |
| 18:41.47 | [MoonWolf] | they show the loot for SFK like the other loot tables in mendeel. |
| 18:42.12 | [MoonWolf] | going to include the embedded PT today too. |
| 18:42.23 | Elkano | so the loot tables aren't part of PT? |
| 18:42.31 | [MoonWolf] | yes they are |
| 18:42.52 | [MoonWolf] | but for every loot table in PT a category needs to be made in mendeleev. |
| 18:42.59 | Elkano | ah, k |
| 18:43.02 | [MoonWolf] | or changes need to be made to existing categories |
| 18:43.15 | [MoonWolf] | and neronix did that while i was busy doing actual code. |
| 18:43.31 | [MoonWolf] | now i will go watch some TV |
| 18:47.12 | Elkano | hf :) |
| 18:48.15 | id` | kergoth: are you ever around? |
| 18:48.21 | id` | kergoth: and not responding? |
| 18:48.26 | id` | kergoth: or are you actually not here |
| 18:48.30 | id` | :p |
| 18:49.07 | kergoth | id`: hehe, i'm writing a post to the ace forums summarizing the features of the ace 2.0 object model i've been workign on, to the thread you linked me to |
| 18:49.21 | kergoth | which is actually more documentation on it than i've written so far :P |
| 18:51.52 | Eraphine | fubar transparency, font, and spacing are no longer needed as separate addons? |
| 18:52.37 | id` | kergoth: good good |
| 18:52.37 | id` | : |
| 18:52.38 | id` | :D |
| 19:02.20 | Eraphine | ckknight, there's a bug in the most recent fubar. |
| 19:02.30 | kergoth | id`: heh, this post is getting long :P |
| 19:02.33 | Eraphine | orthe dewdrop module |
| 19:02.45 | Eraphine | line 836: attempt to call method GetTOP a nil value |
| 19:03.42 | Eraphine | ah it's just a spelling error |
| 19:03.47 | Eraphine | should be GetTop |
| 19:07.08 | otravi | yay, our sever crashed :D |
| 19:09.18 | id` | kergoth: hehe |
| 19:09.20 | id` | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4297 |
| 19:09.29 | id` | I think its good that more of these appear |
| 19:09.31 | Elkano | ckknight, online? |
| 19:18.19 | otravi | yay, server back up |
| 19:18.23 | otravi | and I only have 5911 ms :D |
| 19:18.50 | Lucen | sheesh |
| 19:19.35 | Lucen | and people keep saying it's the hosting provider..hah! blizzard needs better hardware! |
| 19:20.21 | Mikma | mythbusters! |
| 19:21.14 | otravi | I blame their most likely windows servers! |
| 19:23.24 | kergoth | id`: i'm still writing it :P |
| 19:26.42 | Neronix | MW-away: Noted, thanks |
| 19:26.48 | Neronix | otravi: they use some flavour of unix |
| 19:27.22 | Neronix | well, not for the forums at least :P |
| 19:27.46 | Neronix | a while ago, they advertised for unix sysadmins and oracle engineers with unix experience |
| 19:28.03 | Neronix | *oracle database guys |
| 19:28.22 | id` | kergoth: lmao |
| 19:28.27 | id` | hmm Mikma |
| 19:28.40 | id` | i just bought 200 wool cloth in stacks of 20 for 50S each |
| 19:28.56 | id` | thats like 50% of the market price |
| 19:29.05 | id` | ka-ching :D |
| 19:29.17 | otravi | ~pat id` |
| 19:29.18 | purl | ACTION pats id` and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 19:29.46 | id` | hmm, who made Lexan again? |
| 19:30.02 | otravi | not sure :o |
| 19:30.37 | Mikma | google it ;D |
| 19:30.38 | Neronix | id`: me :P |
| 19:30.44 | Neronix | what's up? |
| 19:30.44 | Mikma | i think it's General Electronics hahaa |
| 19:32.44 | otravi | yay, we get everyone online again after the server crash |
| 19:32.50 | otravi | then 15 people disconnect |
| 19:32.58 | otravi | ~yay |
| 19:33.00 | purl | Yipee! |
| 19:33.39 | kergoth | id`: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1306.msg23062.html#msg23062 |
| 19:33.42 | kergoth | whew. |
| 19:35.01 | id` | *read* |
| 19:35.42 | Neronix | Artistic Cowboys? O.o |
| 19:35.54 | kergoth | its the definitive example of the problem. google for it |
| 19:36.15 | kergoth | usually brought up to justify the lack of implementation multiple inheritence in languages like java, when people ask |
| 19:36.16 | Neronix | I see |
| 19:36.36 | kergoth | (java supports multiple interfaces for a class, but onlyone inherited implementation) |
| 19:36.51 | CIA-13 | 03neriak * r971 10gfxToggle/ (Metrognome/MetrognomeLib.lua gfxToggle.lua): gfxToggle: Updated to latest MetrognomeLib, using new MASS UNREGISTER because Tekkub, that lazy bitch, did finally add it ^^ |
| 19:37.31 | CIA-13 | 03neriak * r972 10FuBar_gfxToggleGUI/gfxToggleGUI.lua: gfxToggleGUI: fixed typo in locals, thanks to devla |
| 19:44.16 | id` | kergoth: still reading |
| 19:45.47 | MW-away | kergoth,we are going to need full documentation on that model one day. |
| 19:46.07 | kergoth | that post is a good start on the high level stuff. i've documented most of the API |
| 19:46.37 | kergoth | MW-away: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,329.msg23064.html#msg23064 |
| 19:46.45 | kergoth | url to some of my code tidbits |
| 19:47.04 | Elkano | wb mw |
| 19:47.15 | [MoonWolf] | cool thanks kergoth |
| 19:47.25 | id` | kergoth: wiki.wowace.com :P |
| 19:47.39 | id` | kergoth: it looks nice, easy to understand (the code example) |
| 19:47.40 | [MoonWolf] | i was actually looking for the table traversals you pretty much introduced yourself with on the forms. |
| 19:48.28 | [MoonWolf] | wanted to show it to someone |
| 19:48.32 | [MoonWolf] | not needed anymore |
| 19:48.40 | [MoonWolf] | but at least people can look at it again |
| 19:48.58 | id` | clad|sleep: I know you sare awake now, hah! |
| 19:49.08 | id` | clad|sleep: I sent you an email some days ago, did you get it? |
| 19:54.51 | [MoonWolf] | kergoth, that classpool is a great idea |
| 19:54.58 | [MoonWolf] | not only does it work well |
| 19:55.59 | [MoonWolf] | but it makes picking the classes you want to inherit to a single statement that can be easely understood by people beggining with coding. |
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| 19:56.20 | [MoonWolf] | hey tem. |
| 19:56.33 | Tem | hey |
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| 20:11.26 | FryGuy- | anyone know the command to show currently running mysql queries on a server? :/ |
| 20:11.36 | FryGuy- | i can't find what to look for in google :( |
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| 20:20.49 | id` | #mysql ?:p |
| 20:21.09 | CIA-13 | 03devla 07Devla * r973 10AceHeal/ (17 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:21.09 | CIA-13 | AceHeal:Modified/Added loading messages for all Unit/Raid frames |
| 20:21.09 | CIA-13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.09 | CIA-13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.09 | CIA-13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.09 | CIA-13 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:42.34 | Wobin_ | Miravalix has that effect |
| 20:42.44 | [MoonWolf] | oh yes |
| 20:43.04 | Wobin_ | hrm, new aceheal |
| 20:43.33 | Wobin_ | I want an aceheal that takes into account +heal |
| 20:55.08 | Codayus | Hmmm, finals are over in like, a week. |
| 20:55.20 | Codayus | If nobody has written the code by then, I might take a stab at it. :-) |
| 20:56.34 | id` | Codayus: :) |
| 21:30.15 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r974 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib -> GetTOP() -> GetTop() |
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| 21:33.51 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r975 10FuBar_MoneyFu/MoneyFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - made dewdrop check buttons into radio buttons |
| 21:34.06 | Elkano | ckknight -> Error: Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBarPlugin.lua:716: attempt to index field `tooltip' (a nil value) |
| 21:34.25 | Elkano | (when hovering over ExpFu/HonorFu |
| 21:35.07 | Elkano | (using svn version 3h ago) |
| 21:36.52 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:37.05 | Mikma | yay i got my apple back |
| 21:37.49 | Lucen | nice! |
| 21:46.23 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r976 10DewdropLib/ (API.html Lib/DewdropLib.lua): DewdropLib - added Refresh([level [, value]]) |
| 21:47.03 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r977 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ExperienceFu.lua: FuBar_ExperienceFu - updated dropdown menu to have radio buttons. |
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| 21:58.42 | CIA-13 | 03devla 07Devla * r978 10AceHeal/AceHeal/ (8 files): |
| 21:58.42 | CIA-13 | AceHeal:Changed 'threashold' to 'threshold' (yes I'm a former spelling bee champ) |
| 21:58.42 | CIA-13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.11 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r979 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - added isTitle |
| 21:59.16 | CIA-13 | 03moonwolf * r980 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: Started work on the colors for trade skills, basics working, need to remove kinks. Code is very ugly in places. Will start working on it again when i have slept a bit, to tired to think straight. |
| 21:59.19 | FryGuy- | hmm |
| 21:59.33 | FryGuy- | i've started using PR but I don't have a MTT thing now :( |
| 21:59.34 | [MoonWolf] | night people. |
| 21:59.35 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r981 10FuBar/FuBarPlugin.lua: FuBar - fixed merging with 1.2 API |
| 21:59.56 | FryGuy- | don't really want all of xraid just for the maintank things |
| 22:00.10 | Lucen | FryGuy, you have PerfectRaidTargets as well? |
| 22:00.25 | FryGuy- | yes but it doesn't show the targets of the targets so it's worthless to me |
| 22:00.33 | Lucen | hehe |
| 22:00.42 | Lucen | try oRA_MainTankTargets |
| 22:00.46 | Lucen | haven't tried that one yet |
| 22:01.06 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r982 10TabletLib/Lib/TabletLib.lua: TabletLib - fixed scrolling to be correct when attached. |
| 22:01.06 | Lucen | I'm gonna try to sneak in a target of target into PRT though.... |
| 22:01.08 | Lucen | don't tell |
| 22:01.55 | FryGuy- | :D |
| 22:07.52 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r983 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - fixed IsOpen() |
| 22:34.42 | kergoth | Any comments/criticisms regarding my post? |
| 22:35.19 | Neronix | on the OO model? |
| 22:36.27 | kergoth | Neronix: yea |
| 22:37.09 | Neronix | Well, I can't really comment for now :S |
| 22:37.13 | CIA-13 | 03devla 07Devla * r984 10AceHeal/AceHeal/Documentation.txt: AceHeal: Name correction in Documentation.txt |
| 22:37.29 | Neronix | I'm still very new to coding in general and I haven't read as much about lua as I should |
| 22:37.39 | Neronix | and I also have no real idea about how objects work |
| 22:37.41 | Neronix | sorry :< |
| 22:38.03 | kergoth | hehe, no worries |
| 22:38.05 | Wobin_ | kergoth: Linky? |
| 22:38.16 | kergoth | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1306.msg23062.html#msg23062 |
| 22:38.57 | Neronix | in short, reading that makes my brain turn into a bowl of rice krispies :P |
| 22:39.10 | Neronix | neurons go snap crackle and pop :P |
| 22:39.14 | kergoth | i warned that it wasnt for teh faint of heart :) |
| 22:39.32 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r985 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - hopefully fixed issue where buttons became unclickable |
| 22:39.35 | Neronix | heh, now I noticed |
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| 22:54.33 | clad|sleep | FryGuy-: You can also use oRA-MT |
| 22:54.44 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r986 10FuBar/ (API.1.2.html FuBarPlugin.lua): FuBar - added self:UpdateDisplay(), which calls UpdateText() and UpdateTooltip(). |
| 22:55.33 | ckknight | wow |
| 22:55.36 | ckknight | CIA-13 is laggy |
| 23:06.33 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r987 10DewdropLib/Lib/DewdropLib.lua: DewdropLib - Added a needed assert. |
| 23:10.20 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r988 10TouristLib/Lib/TouristLib.lua: TouristLib - added Uldaman to Badlands |
| 23:16.39 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r989 10FuBar_AmmoFu/AmmoFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_AmmoFu - updated deDE translation |
| 23:16.52 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r990 10FuBar_ClockFu/ClockFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_ClockFu - updated deDE translation |
| 23:17.14 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r991 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/ (3 files): |
| 23:17.14 | CIA-13 | FuBar_DurabilityFu - updated deDE translation |
| 23:17.14 | CIA-13 | Added auto-repairing. |
| 23:17.25 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r992 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/ExperienceFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_ExperienceFu - updated deDE translation |
| 23:17.33 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r993 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - updated deDE translation |
| 23:17.42 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r994 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_LocationFu - updated deDE translation |
| 23:18.12 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r995 10FuBar_MicroMenuFu/MicroMenuFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_TopScoreFu - added deDE translation (Thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 23:18.30 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r996 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (MoneyFu.lua MoneyFuLocals-deDE.lua MoneyFuLocals.lua): FuBar_MoneyFu - updated deDE translation |
| 23:18.43 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r997 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - updated deDE translation |
| 23:19.07 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r998 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (TopScoreFu.lua TopScoreFuLocals-deDE.lua): FuBar_TopScoreFu - added deDE translation (thanks to Chinkuwaila) |
| 23:19.15 | ckknight | spam. |
| 23:19.19 | ckknight | damn |
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| 23:19.23 | ckknight | so close to 1000 |
| 23:19.26 | ckknight | I need to find 2 bugs |
| 23:20.50 | Thiana | I know guys are competative, but isnt that taking it a bit too far? :-P |
| 23:23.57 | kergoth | its pretty common to cheer when reaching certain revision numbers in an scm, or reaching certain bug numbers in a bts |
| 23:24.07 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4900 lol |
| 23:24.23 | CIA-13 | 03neronix * r999 10Lexan/Lexan.toc: Lexan - Added revision keyword to toc |
| 23:24.24 | ckknight | Thiana, I'm actually not trying |
| 23:24.28 | ckknight | no! |
| 23:24.35 | ckknight | gotta code faster |
| 23:24.57 | Thiana | O.o |
| 23:25.28 | Neronix | /ninja |
| 23:25.31 | CIA-13 | 03neronix * r1000 10Lexan/Lexan.lua: Lexan - Added revision keyword to lua |
| 23:25.38 | Neronix | /dance |
| 23:25.40 | hyperChipmunk | pwnd |
| 23:25.42 | Lucen | hax |
| 23:25.57 | Neronix | now I hope I did the keyword thing properly O.o |
| 23:26.01 | hyperChipmunk | kewords |
| 23:26.03 | hyperChipmunk | dang! |
| 23:26.06 | hyperChipmunk | wish I thought of that |
| 23:26.11 | Neronix | >) |
| 23:26.29 | Thiana | You guys are strange :-P |
| 23:26.35 | ckknight | aw |
| 23:26.38 | ckknight | well, congrats |
| 23:26.47 | Neronix | lol, thanks |
| 23:26.49 | hyperChipmunk | boss is going to hunt you down and murder your children now, you know |
| 23:26.52 | kergoth | this amuses me. back when i posted with regularity on the wowace forums, i almost never got replies with input on my code |
| 23:27.02 | kergoth | and now that happens again with the object mdoel post :) |
| 23:27.15 | hyperChipmunk | that means 'it looks good' |
| 23:27.23 | hyperChipmunk | it does look good, btw |
| 23:27.26 | hyperChipmunk | excellent post, too |
| 23:27.30 | hyperChipmunk | I understood it |
| 23:27.30 | kergoth | or they looked and went "ow" |
| 23:27.36 | hyperChipmunk | and I had one of those 'aha' moments |
| 23:27.45 | kergoth | that bodes well |
| 23:27.52 | kergoth | considernig this is the start of the high level conceptual documentation :) |
| 23:27.53 | hyperChipmunk | you know what I mean? |
| 23:28.02 | hyperChipmunk | when it got to that last example |
| 23:28.07 | hyperChipmunk | when you did the ace one |
| 23:28.15 | cladhaire | kergoth: There's not much to say about code that is fine. |
| 23:28.19 | hyperChipmunk | it was like, 'ah yes...yes! i see' |
| 23:28.35 | hyperChipmunk | so kudos on that front |
| 23:30.13 | kergoth | cladhaire: this is true, i just dont trust myself, so pester for sanity checks with regularity :) |
| 23:30.21 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 23:30.37 | CIA-13 | 03neronix * r1001 10Lexan/ (Lexan.lua Lexan.toc): Lexan - Yep, I messed the keywords as I thought >.< |
| 23:31.23 | cladhaire | i hate tortoise. |
| 23:31.25 | Neronix | it said to use $WCREV$ instead of the correct $Revision$ >.> |
| 23:31.28 | kergoth | cladhaire: and also, there are cases where I /know/ things arent optimal, or are lacking in some way, but still no one comments. hehe. |
| 23:31.32 | cladhaire | svn binaries FTW |
| 23:31.42 | cladhaire | kergoth: Its tough to read other people's code sometimes.. |
| 23:31.43 | cladhaire | =) |
| 23:32.25 | kergoth | yeah, this is very true |
| 23:32.41 | kergoth | especially when it isnt commented, which mine usually isnt until after i finish it :) |
| 23:32.47 | cladhaire | especially something like a class abstractino =) |
| 23:32.59 | Neronix`sleep | night |
| 23:33.03 | Neronix`sleep | ~hug ckknight |
| 23:33.04 | purl | ACTION hugs ckknight |
| 23:33.17 | kergoth | half the people in the ace community stuff some functions in a table and think taht makes it OO, so.. |
| 23:33.20 | kergoth | :P |
| 23:33.32 | ckknight | that's a namespace |
| 23:33.37 | kergoth | exactly |
| 23:33.51 | ckknight | I accept and understand that my libraries aren't OO |
| 23:33.55 | ckknight | but then again, they don't need to be |
| 23:34.25 | cladhaire | do you expose anything into the global namespace? |
| 23:35.09 | ckknight | yea, one variable |
| 23:35.19 | ckknight | which is the library |
| 23:35.23 | kergoth | Be careful about using the following code -- I've only proven that it works, I haven't tested it. |
| 23:35.26 | kergoth | Donald Knuth |
| 23:35.28 | cladhaire | so you put things in table, but don't use OO? |
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| 23:35.44 | cladhaire | Knuth is a crazy crazy brilliant man |
| 23:35.57 | cladhaire | its a sad thing I dont enjoy formal methods |
| 23:35.58 | kergoth | i still havent managed to get through taocp |
| 23:36.11 | kergoth | part way through my brain goes ow |
| 23:36.18 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 23:37.00 | ckknight | for the library, I don't see any reason to use OO |
| 23:37.15 | ckknight | I have no need for inheritance or anything like that |
| 23:37.35 | cladhaire | .. |
| 23:37.38 | cladhaire | OO doesnt mean inheritance |
| 23:37.41 | cladhaire | its a method of programming |
| 23:37.50 | cladhaire | procedual versus OO |
| 23:38.41 | ckknight | what does OO mean? |
| 23:38.43 | ckknight | it's so loose |
| 23:38.47 | ckknight | and people interpret it differently |
| 23:38.55 | cladhaire | there are a number of definitions |
| 23:39.15 | cladhaire | it literally means writing and treating your code in a object oriented model |
| 23:39.21 | cladhaire | that can be as loose as an "Addon object" |
| 23:39.36 | cladhaire | or full scale with inheritance, and everything in the system as an object. |
| 23:40.50 | kergoth | it's largely a school of /thought/. how you think about code reflects how you code. start with thinking about things in that way |
| 23:41.08 | ckknight | stop describing object orientation with the words "object oriented" |
| 23:41.12 | kergoth | i'm still half stuck in procedural, occasionally floating into functional |
| 23:41.20 | cladhaire | No. |
| 23:41.22 | cladhaire | thats literally what it means. |
| 23:41.27 | cladhaire | thinkign in an object oriented manner |
| 23:41.30 | cladhaire | i.e. things are objects. |
| 23:41.34 | cladhaire | as opposed to procedures. |
| 23:42.18 | hyperChipmunk | wee, people are downloading BatFu <333 |
| 23:42.29 | hyperChipmunk | ~happiness |
| 23:42.31 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, happiness is a working MILO formatter or a warm gnu. or a warm gun. Just ask the Beatles |
| 23:42.38 | kergoth | "Theory is when you know something, but it doesn't work. Practice is when something works, but you don't know why. |
| 23:42.41 | kergoth | Programmers combine theory and practice: Nothing works and they don't know why." |
| 23:42.51 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 23:43.57 | cladhaire | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_oriented Tells you all you could ever need to know |
| 23:44.01 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 23:45.41 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1002 10FuBar/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:45.41 | CIA-13 | FuBar - |
| 23:45.41 | CIA-13 | API Change: |
| 23:45.41 | CIA-13 | Changed FuBarUtils.FormatMoney*(value [, colorize]) to FuBarUtils.FormatMoney*(value [, colorize [, textColor]]) |
| 23:45.41 | CIA-13 | Fixed typo in example. |
| 23:46.12 | hyperChipmunk | how does a typo change 3 files in two directories O_o |
| 23:46.20 | hyperChipmunk | must've been a whale of a typo |
| 23:47.33 | otravi | who got 1k this time? |
| 23:47.45 | hyperChipmunk | Ner |
| 23:48.06 | hyperChipmunk | with a cheesy svn keyword update |
| 23:48.25 | otravi | http://www.beverpung.net/images/games/wow/WoWScrnShot_042706_014539.png << Playin with CreateFrame (yes castbar, needed something to use it on) |
| 23:49.16 | otravi | (and yes, bad screen - cba to cut the images) |
| 23:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4890 |
| 23:55.28 | hyperChipmunk | hahaha |
| 23:55.42 | hyperChipmunk | I agree with the comment...best addon ever |
| 23:56.17 | kergoth | "Measuring programming progress by lines of code is like measuring aircraft building progress by weight." |
| 23:56.20 | kergoth | i like that |
| 23:57.09 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1003 10FuBar/FuBarUtils.lua: FuBar - fixed typo. |
| 23:57.51 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1004 10FuBar_MoneyFu/ (MoneyFu.lua MoneyFuLocals-deDE.lua MoneyFuLocals.lua): FuBar_MoneyFu - added profit/loss to tooltip. |
| 23:59.03 | CIA-13 | 03ckknight * r1005 10FuBar_LocationFu/LocationFu.lua: FuBar_LocationFu - fixed typo. |
| 23:59.41 | ckknight | I'd consider it more progress by reducing the lines of code than by adding more |
