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| 02:59.28 | Guinness | oh well... |
| 03:01.57 | Guinness | really sorry this place died/hibernated. I have 4 or 5 phones for spare parts and double that many batteries, so I'll be around when/if we get to test open webos on frankenpre2s |
| 03:02.15 | Guinness | g'night |
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| 10:39.42 | GarthPS | rwhitby: hello. do you know if it is possible to modify wpa-supplicant to support eap-sim (aka dialogue with the sim card directly) ? |
| 10:52.17 | filmor | wpa_supplicant does already support eap-sim ... |
| 11:20.49 | GarthPS | filmor: well then why it does not work/what am I doing wrong ? I have an eap-sim wifi hotspot + an eap-sim card compatible in my pre2 |
| 11:21.05 | GarthPS | I adapted this post http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-development/213894-anyway-edit-wpa_supplicant-config.html#post2148673 with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660397 |
| 11:23.31 | GarthPS | filmor: I maid a custom wpa_supplicant config file, turned on wifi, killed wpa_supplicant, relaunched it with my custom conf file and tried to get an ip but nothing |
| 11:23.59 | GarthPS | perhaps i am misisng some glue like resolv.conf or something |
| 11:24.17 | GarthPS | do you have some tips ? |
| 11:30.46 | GarthPS | filmor: how do you know wpa_supplicant version provided with webos 2.2.4 is supporting eap-sim ? I know that wpa_supplicant supports it http://w1.fi/wpa_supplicant/ but it has to come with some telephony specific bits to communicat with the sim card |
| 11:49.22 | filmor | garthps, webos 2.2.4 uses v0.6.10, so it should in theory support eap-sim |
| 11:50.09 | filmor | i don't know how the communication with the sim is supposed to work, but you can access imsi and imei using the com.palm.telephony service |
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| 12:17.27 | GarthPS | filmor: thx. I need to find out how wpa_supplicant is supposed to provide and how it get these informations |
| 12:25.24 | GarthPS | filmor: do you know how to retriev imsi ? what is the command to do so ? |
| 12:36.12 | filmor | luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.telephony/imsiQuery '{}' |
| 12:36.44 | filmor | or, from a program, you'd use the lunaservice-functions to do that, but I don't know the interface |
| 12:44.24 | EricBlade | hey filmor |
| 12:46.26 | filmor | hi :) |
| 12:46.54 | EricBlade | filmor: have you cracked the custom validator nut yet? |
| 12:47.11 | filmor | hmm? |
| 12:48.08 | EricBlade | you were trying to work out how to do the custom ui for account things |
| 12:49.35 | filmor | I was? well, the plugins use a custom validator … |
| 12:51.14 | filmor | the only thing(tm) that doesn't work are the (error) dialogs in the mojo validator |
| 12:52.31 | EricBlade | yeah i think you were trying to figure out the mojo way then |
| 12:53.07 | filmor | ah yes, some time ago I tried to find a way to use the enyo validator on mojo devices |
| 12:53.54 | filmor | but that didn't work so I just resorted to writing the mojo part from scratch and deciding during the installation which one to use |
| 12:53.56 | EricBlade | wouldn't happen to be able to point me to a direction of how to learn about how the enyo version works? |
| 12:54.19 | filmor | wait a sec |
| 12:54.53 | filmor | anything particular that you're looking for? |
| 12:56.09 | EricBlade | just how to set it up. i understand that the custom validator thingee wants either a string or an object (i think, it's been a while since i've read that doc) and there's not really a clear explanation of what it wants, or how to respond to it |
| 12:56.25 | filmor | ah, okay |
| 12:56.46 | filmor | https://github.com/filmor/webos-messaging/blob/master/application/validator_enyo.html |
| 12:56.58 | EricBlade | last time i looked into the code that made it all work was around january, and my head was still swimming at the complexity of it then |
| 12:57.14 | filmor | this file is the starting point |
| 12:57.22 | filmor | the parameters are in the windowParams |
| 12:57.35 | filmor | next step: https://github.com/filmor/webos-messaging/blob/master/application/source/Validator.js |
| 12:57.46 | filmor | in create the params are handled |
| 12:58.34 | filmor | you have the whole template (i.e. the template.json-file you're providing as the account template) in either params.initialTemplate or params.template |
| 13:00.37 | EricBlade | that's kind of a bright idea passing the windowParams to create |
| 13:00.43 | filmor | I think it's always params.template in webOS 3, but the documentation on this stuff is extremely foggy |
| 13:01.07 | EricBlade | ok, your accounts json is making me go WTF .. is there something that pre-parses that, or did i miss something in docs? |
| 13:01.29 | filmor | hihi |
| 13:01.35 | filmor | I'm just lazy as hell |
| 13:01.50 | EricBlade | isn't that why we're programmers? |
| 13:02.00 | filmor | I didn't care to write this stuff again and again, so I "invented" my own json-template-language ;) |
| 13:02.22 | filmor | makes it easy to add new accounts |
| 13:02.44 | filmor | look at prototype.json |
| 13:02.52 | filmor | that's kindof the "master-template" |
| 13:02.59 | filmor | especially "@template" in there |
| 13:03.17 | filmor | that's where everything get's substituted in |
| 13:03.18 | GarthPS | filmor: thx!! |
| 13:03.35 | filmor | GarthPS, you're welcome :) |
| 13:04.04 | GarthPS | is there a way to list or to know the list of request we can pass the palm://com.palm.telephony// ? |
| 13:04.37 | EricBlade | GarthPS: well.. it's a bit of a stretch, but if you can find the binary that implements the com.palm.telephony service, you can run "strings" on it |
| 13:05.15 | GarthPS | EricBlade: hm yeah right |
| 13:05.30 | GarthPS | was hoping there was already a list of it :) |
| 13:05.43 | EricBlade | you might also try calling .. palm://com.palm.telephone/__info .. |
| 13:05.56 | EricBlade | (that's two underscores) |
| 13:06.50 | EricBlade | doesn't look like that works very well though |
| 13:07.03 | GarthPS | :) |
| 13:07.03 | EricBlade | the code descibes "All services support an __info method" .. but the three i just tried didn't |
| 13:07.19 | GarthPS | :p |
| 13:07.19 | filmor | use the public bus |
| 13:07.33 | filmor | the problem is are the permissions though, I guess |
| 13:07.50 | EricBlade | i see the service controller registers __info on both the public and private bus |
| 13:07.56 | EricBlade | but that may only apply to javascript services |
| 13:08.13 | GarthPS | filmor: which is the bus? |
| 13:08.43 | filmor | luna-send will use the private bus unless you explicitely tell it to use the public one using -P |
| 13:08.53 | GarthPS | is there a qdbus ? |
| 13:09.02 | EricBlade | if i call that on my own node service, it gives me the contents of service.json |
| 13:09.28 | EricBlade | which i don't think the native services have, otherwise we could just look in there |
| 13:11.49 | EricBlade | cant call telephony on the public bus, and __info isn't registered for it on the private |
| 13:12.12 | filmor | hmm |
| 13:12.24 | filmor | i can't find it in the sources |
| 13:13.23 | filmor | but I know there where some magic methods … |
| 13:13.27 | filmor | like __quit |
| 13:14.15 | EricBlade | filmor: ok, so, it goes .. validator { customUI { appId, name }, address } .. where appId is the app to launch, name is ??, and address is .. uh.. obv a function call for something, but wouldn't the customUI perform that function? or is that so the customUI knows what function to perform? |
| 13:16.44 | filmor | I don't think address is needed when customUI is specified |
| 13:16.59 | filmor | name is the html-file in the application directory |
| 13:17.07 | filmor | i.e. "validator/index.html" |
| 13:17.20 | filmor | but only on webos 3 :) |
| 13:17.31 | filmor | on webos 2 it's the scene name |
| 13:19.21 | EricBlade | ok, so then your validator app takes whatever input is needed from the user, and then calls checkCredentials or whatever on it ? |
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| 13:21.36 | filmor | the validator can do whatever it wants |
| 13:21.54 | filmor | it just needs to use CrossAppResult to return the credentials |
| 13:22.42 | filmor | https://github.com/filmor/webos-messaging/blob/master/application/source/Validator.js#L92 |
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| 13:24.03 | filmor | I just return the credentials-object as I got it from the validator, I'll look up which format it has exactly |
| 13:26.00 | filmor | {"credentials": {"common": {"password": pass }}, "username": user, "config": your-configuration-stuff } |
| 13:26.38 | filmor | and maybe also "returnValue": true, I guess |
| 13:27.01 | filmor | yep, you'll need that, that's how the ui decides if it should procede |
| 13:29.17 | filmor | and if you want to use config: the accounts-ui won't handle saving this for you, you'll have to do that on your own in onCreate |
| 13:29.25 | filmor | tripped into that one ;) |
| 13:33.58 | EricBlade | thank you. this whole conversation has been logged for future reference |
| 13:34.54 | EricBlade | i'll be looking into the custom validator when i want to build something that uses oauth |
| 13:36.42 | filmor | you can also put a token in the credentials object |
| 13:36.56 | filmor | actually the whole system is kinda nice |
| 13:37.15 | filmor | would be even nicer if it was a bit more extensible |
| 13:37.43 | filmor | allowing us to extend the facebook- and google-accounts :) |
| 14:37.56 | EricBlade | yes, for sure |
| 14:38.30 | EricBlade | i'd like to not have to add a whole extra set of contacts for google voice |
| 14:49.04 | GarthPS | filmor: would you be able to guide me trough eap-sim login process? I am not sure of my commands to makea pairing with my wifi station |
| 14:53.10 | filmor | erm, I actually don't know much about eap-sim … |
| 14:53.33 | filmor | just had a look at wikipedia and the wpa-supplicant sources, that's all … |
| 14:55.01 | GarthPS | filmor: I mean appart from eap-sim, what is the process to make a wifi connection command line by command line |
| 14:59.26 | filmor | i think on webos this is done using some proprietary daemon |
| 15:00.04 | filmor | on desktop linux systems you'd use wpa_cli or wpa_gui for that |
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